=== kgoetz_ is now known as kgoetz === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.49] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.49] has joined #edubuntu === cafuego_ [n=cafuego@ppp186-76.lns2.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.49] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.49.220.49] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.102.77] has joined #edubuntu === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.49.220.49] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.49.220.49] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.49.220.49] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.49] has joined #edubuntu === hj [n=meta@189.156.174.209] has joined #edubuntu [05:51] hello, anybody here ? [05:52] hi [05:54] oh.. hi kgoetz.. [05:54] :\ [05:54] i had several questions but the wiki allready solved them [05:55] im doing a research for a proyect of the world bank focused in mexico [05:55] innovation to reduce poverty... [05:55] :) [05:55] i was trying to find out if it was possible to create customized livecd focused on children [05:55] and so it happens it does.... [05:56] do you think that it would possible to sponsor a specific distribution of edubuntu ? [05:56] sponsor a derivative of edubuntu? [05:57] yup [05:57] yes sponsor "pay" some developers to create e costum version for edubuntu [05:57] for this specific project of the world bank [05:57] i dont know, depending on what you want to derive for it might be better to help them build edubuntu [05:57] hm.well === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #edubuntu [05:57] if you choose to sponsor devs, tahts your call. [05:58] how you go about that, i dont know, but it is ok [05:58] hi crimsun [05:58] 'lo. [05:58] :) [05:59] well in brief... the proyect intends to involve young people in an innovative way to help reduce poverty... [06:00] the country in which the proyect will be held is mexico [06:00] most of the poverty problemas in mexico is because people lack of access to information, hence they are not able to develop new skills [06:01] the idea behind this proposal for the proyect is to give children livecd and equip schools and parks with very low cost terminals [06:01] in this way in cooperation with schools... children could learn to develop skills and have access to knowledge [06:02] sounds like what netday (sp?) in south africa [06:03] well yes.. in some way... mexico has very similar conditions of poverty of african and some Asiatic countries [06:04] this livecd is one of the possible proposals, the second one is a children version of wikipedia [06:04] although it might require greater funds [06:04] hj: how far do you think you would have to derive from edubuntu? or are you just trying to find ideas at the moment? [06:05] well i found that many of the applications needed allready exist... [06:05] hold sec please [06:05] np [06:06] im back [06:06] apps such as KDE Edutainment Pack [06:07] you would want them included? [06:07] yup [06:07] i think NEW development wouldnt be necesarry at least at the first phase... [06:07] just tons of costumization... [06:08] sounds like you want to derive quite a way off a standard cd [06:08] the real challenge would be to teach teachers how to use the tools, and get some infraestructure for centralized information [06:08] do you think this is a big problem ? [06:09] not as such. [06:09] i've only used slax, im quite new in this opensource OS world [06:09] never the less in new developments and similar [06:09] i'm not a dev, so i cant comment on the current state of edubuntu and whats in it [06:09] ogra is the man to ping on that front [06:10] graet.. ill make sure to organize more ideas and contact him.. [06:10] .do you have any other ideas ? [06:11] hj: try emailling the edubuntu/ubuntu-education lists [06:11] and see if you can catch RichEd-1 as well [06:12] thanks a lot.. [06:12] and how are you involved in the proyect ? [06:12] np. hope it helped [06:13] edubuntu? i used to run it on some of my computers, not i hang around to ask indirectly related questions [06:13] and because i hope to start getting edubuntu into schools here [06:13] and where are you located ? [06:14] Australia [06:14] and what has been your experience ? [06:15] with eduubuntu? i used the 6.06 release, and it worked well. [06:15] and how have schools recieved it ? [06:15] i'm hoping for a less 'childish' version, for middle/upper school [06:15] i havent deplyed it here yet. i want to do it properly first time ;) [06:17] yes, precisly, a distribution for students 12 - 18 would be perfect for my project [06:17] hj: i know there was talks of work on one, i just dont know how it went [06:17] perhaps if you can work with edubuntu, you can wortk with them to make the version [06:20] I have to live for now Karl, but i appreciate a lot your help... i'll et you know of i have any success on promoting edubuntu in mexico and the world bank.. [06:21] if the world bank likes it i could get some funds... [06:21] i gotta move from location... maybe ill return later... [06:21] thansk [06:21] good luck hd [06:21] *hj [06:21] look forward to see ing you again === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.102.77] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.49] has joined #edubuntu === cafuego_ [n=cafuego@ppp186-76.lns2.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu === hj [n=meta@189.157.227.200] has joined #edubuntu === hj_ [n=meta@201.148.23.1] has joined #edubuntu === hj [n=meta@189.157.227.200] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.49] has joined #edubuntu === hj [n=meta@189.157.227.200] has joined #edubuntu === ry0672 [n=bozo8787@adsl-144-228-102.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:04] hi all [09:05] hi there [09:05] anyone up? [09:05] hey [09:05] got a question [09:05] im kinda in here, but im a complete neophyte... jajaj im afraid i cant answer much [09:05] k [09:05] jajaja but shoot, im sure between the both of us can find an answer in the wiki and docs [09:06] thanx [09:06] I want to install edubuntu for my sister's daugher that's 9 years old [09:06] ry0672: you should ask a question, if someone can help, they will [09:06] i c [09:07] better yet is edubuntu a safe OS for young children? [09:08] I am looking for some way that restricts young kids from accessing say prOn sites and the like [09:08] is edubuntu the way to go? Or should I be looking elsewhere? [09:09] whoa, i belive than regardless the OS you use the real danger is in the web outhere... if edubuntu (please confirm) doesnt come with a type of firewall o contrnol access system you would liek to get one... [09:09] you could put filters in place, but i havent tried [09:09] does edubuntu come with parental control out of the box ? [09:10] 606 didnt, i dont know about 6.10 [09:10] filters, good guess I can do a search on that [09:11] "parental control" ty thats what i meant to ask [09:11] brb gotta google,lol [09:11] if you dont mind some confiuration, theres squid+[chastitybelt,dans gardian] [09:12] I C... squid+[chastitybelt,dans gardian] [09:13] ry0672: do you have ubuntu/edubuntu installed at the moment? [09:14] no, I have Ubuntu on my laptop, and i'm currently on my gf's pc and am dl'ing the edubuntu Live CD [09:14] http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/web/dansguardian [09:14] WoW [09:14] TY [09:14] http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/web/squid [09:14] nice [09:15] have a look around packages.ubuntu.com if you want to see whats in it :) or look in synaptic [09:15] again thanx [09:16] np [09:16] will do! [09:16] :) [09:16] uu squid is really something i used to recomend it for local goverment agencies.. [09:20] hj: meaning you like it, or you think its to big? [09:22] both.. [09:22] but i've never tried it in a closed envoriment ... maybe it can work well [09:22] i dont know much about filtering proxies - i aimed to educate users at work, rather then block them [09:22] and slap them about now and then if i find bad stuff happening [09:23] mind you, my work isnt a big corp, so there is some room to manouver [09:23] well, as long its a local network squid should be able to do a great job... [09:24] im unsure about the same computer that runs as server should be a client itself, even more if its for a child... [09:25] but for a small network of even 3 - 5 computers squid gets the job pretty good... [09:25] i dont feel sane sugesting someone increase their network complexity - i'm happy to, but i dont like recomending it to someone who just wants a childenres comp. [09:25] exactly [09:26] uuuh.... "DansGuardian requires squid or another similar caching proxy server on your local network." [09:27] yep. [09:27] and DansGuardian seems to capsulate more funtions suchs as AV with clam... [09:28] seems more like a "smart" frontend to various components... [09:28] i would try densguardian.... === kgoetz should probably get familar with filtering stuff [10:12] Ubuntu Christian Edition also includes fully integrated web content parental controls powered by Dansguardian. A graphical tool to adjust the parental control settings has also been developed specifically for Ubuntu Christian Edition. These features are truly what sets Ubuntu Christian Edition apart. [10:13] If this guys did it im sure you can manage to do something [10:13] ups... he is gone ... [10:14] wonder if we have poached that frontend yet [10:34] kgoetz: so, what is it that you do for a living ? [10:36] hj: i have been living off my savings. (ie not earning a living). i work as a volunteer for several groups [10:36] and for the next 6 months i'll be a full time student [10:37] perhaps with a 3 week visit to papua new guinea to setup a network over there using ubuntu+debian [10:42] WOW... [10:43] i've never been there, but it sounds as if they have a lot of new world - old world cutlures [10:43] 'full time student' - i'll probalby get half the course or more on recognition for prior learning [10:43] how old are you ? [10:43] the trip will be pretty intence if i get to go [10:43] 20 [10:43] okz [10:44] thats pretty cool, being able to travel and work as a volunteer [10:44] yeh. i'v been volunteering for 2 years already [10:44] i'll have to cut back when i get real work though :\ [10:45] s/real/paid [10:46] i have to break that habit. its real work wether i get money or not [10:46] yes indeed, but anyways... we must do it while we can.. (no family to take care of) [10:47] h'm [10:47] most of my time and hobbies are currently sponsored by a media lab, located in mexico... [10:47] restatemedia.com restatemedia.net [10:47] i get enough money for a living, but i really need to get more income before i get old and start needed more money [10:48] but hey... its a great way to spend time.. volunteering [10:48] brb in a few min === artbird309 [n=artbird3@68-190-158-139.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu [10:58] just making food. will be a bit longer === RichEd-2 [n=richard@dsl-241-48-251.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === blue-frog [n=bluefrog@dyn-88-123-3-6.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #edubuntu === kgoetz [n=kgoetz@ppp226-254.lns2.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:18] ffs. i needed info on that shell. it died ;( [11:18] must have been the blackout [11:18] ? [11:19] hj: i was logged into a shell before. the host has gone down. [11:19] it only goes down when the UPS runs out. [11:19] oooh [11:22] i'll get a new "old laptop" just to play around with edubuntu [11:23] or maybe i'll just go straight fwd to compile a customized liveUSB.. [11:24] What would be better to install for a server at school edubuntu or ubuntu it is for a 150 seats desktops? === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [11:24] artbird309: what age group? [11:24] kgoetz: 6-12 [11:25] try edubuntu [11:25] hey peeps [11:25] I read somewhere you could create quizes with some package, has anyone tried it ? [11:25] kgoetz: does that have all the stuff that ubuntu server has [11:26] artbird309, the base installs of both are largely similar [11:26] what are you after specifically? [11:26] I ldap sever with samba [11:27] I think I am open for a better set-up === jinty [n=jinty@vc-196-207-32-235.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === pete_ [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@vc-196-207-32-235.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@vc-196-207-32-235.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [12:57] hi ogra [12:57] bye ogra === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A96C86.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === kgoetz [n=kgoetz@ppp226-254.lns2.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === rockprincess [n=theresa@chello084112026078.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.49.220.49] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt === sc0tt is now known as sc0tt_ === hip2besquare [n=theresa@chello084112026078.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu === hip2besquare is now known as rockprincess === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [03:41] Heya [03:47] hey [03:48] Whoa, a Princess? :) [03:48] yep ;) === bddebian bows [04:00] heheh ;) [04:00] sweet! === sc0tt [i=sc0tt@please.gortfm.org] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [05:37] hey all === UbuntuSt1ts [n=StatsBot@bl7-16-3.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #edubuntu === sorl [n=mikko@c-1632e155.328-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #edubuntu [05:58] can someone direct me on how to install a printer on a thin client? 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