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michael20laStalk3r: sorry, no12:15
Schuenemannchanging the volume of headphones in kmix does not affect anything12:15
arschkindmake /sysinfo12:15
arschkindSysinfo for 'kubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon64X2DualCore4200+ at 2211 MHz (4425 bogomips), , RAM: 835/1010MB, 123 proc's, 8.34min up12:15
Schuenemann!kmix12:15
ubotukmix: sound mixer applet for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 366 kB, installed size 1208 kB12:15
Schuenemannarschkind: can you disable that sysinfo stuff?12:16
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arschkindyes I can but I don't know if I want12:16
SchuenemannI don't think anybody is interested in that12:17
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apecathmm what is the process name for that power management thingie in the sys tray of the default kubuntu desktop?12:20
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fdovingapecat: guidance-power-manager.py12:20
fdovingapecat: might be without .py12:21
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apecatfdoving: without .py. thanks :)12:24
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nils_hello12:28
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nils_whats going on??12:30
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nibiCan anyone tell me whats the best instant messaging client for linux? i only use msn12:33
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elknof3nibi: ams12:33
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elknof3amsn*12:33
nibielknof3: thanks! checking it out12:34
elknof3is in your packges12:34
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Schuenemannhow can get the volume of my headphones higher?12:36
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elknof3nibi: but i think the messaging client is gaim or kopete12:36
Schuenemannhe only wants msn, amsn is the best12:36
geniiheh :) 8 machines headlessly autoinstalling and top shows cpu0 97.9% idle cpu1 99.8% idle12:37
geniiwoohoo :)12:37
Schuenemanngenii: how can I make the volume of these damn headphones higher?12:37
geniiPlug them in the headphone jack of your extrnally powered speakers? ;)12:38
Schuenemannreally?12:38
geniiSchuenemann Well perhaps see how the mixer is set by right-click on speaker icon12:38
Schuenemannit's maxed already12:38
geniiIt is in there somewhere12:38
Schuenemannand so is it in amarok12:39
genii:(12:39
Schuenemannactually, in kmix, altering the headphones does not change anything12:39
Schuenemannonly master does12:39
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geniiHmm perhaps it is something like un-muting some input source then12:39
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Schuenemannhey, that worked12:41
SchuenemannPCM, whatever that is12:41
geniiThere ya go :)12:41
Schuenemann!pcm12:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pcm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:42
Schuenemannthanks12:42
Schuenemannnow I can get deaf12:42
geniiheh :)12:42
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geniiBy my current calculations if i had enough electrical breakers to support it I could netboot a full network segment of 254 computers without much of a dent in the server :)12:43
Schuenemann:-O12:44
geniiwhich is an ancient dual 667 P312:44
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cloakableHeh12:44
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genii2 x20amp circuits here. Thinking: 120x20=2400 watts x2 =4800 watts max drain. So with no monitors at peak what can your average system draw? 200 watts?12:46
Schuenemannbeats me12:47
geniiI'm thinking 24 boxes may not be unreasonable12:47
cloakableMine can draw 400W :)12:47
Schuenemann550W12:48
genii*average* system LOL12:48
Schuenemannand it has neon lights too12:48
geniieg: Crappy old Dell Optiplex gx11012:48
cloakablegenii: The average system is what can run XP well :P12:48
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geniiHmm I have several open I'll look at the wattage rating on PS12:49
kyle_Hey there12:49
genii145 watts12:50
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cloakableHeh12:50
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geniisomeone have a calc handy? I'm on command line. Divide 4800 by 145 and let me know the result please12:51
Ace2016Hi all12:51
Ace2016Anyone know where the wishlist for the next version is?12:51
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geniiBetter wireless drivers and wlan manager LOL12:51
Ace2016I want to request that qtcurve be the main theme because it ties all the apps together nicely and it looks very good too12:51
Schuenemann33,1012:51
evox_I need help installing java12:51
refus3devox_: ill help12:52
Schuenemannevox_: JRE or JDK ?12:52
geniiSchuenemann 331 ?12:52
excitatoryis there a way to adjust the clock so that it displays: Thurs YYYY.MM.DD HH:MM?  (Right now it's stuck on this: YYYY.MM.DD Thursday HH:MM, and I would like the day to _at least_ be on the other side of the date if possible)12:52
Schuenemannno, 3312:52
evox_JRE12:52
evox_I just got The latest Kubuntu installed12:52
geniiAh, OK :) Thx a lot12:52
Schuenemannyou want 5 or 6?12:52
evox_Then I wanted to install Limewire12:52
refus3dyou weant 612:52
geniiso 32 and server cool cool12:52
refus3ddo you dev?12:52
evox_then I dont have the newest and latest Java12:52
Schuenemannguess not, he wants JRE12:52
evox_and Im a linux newbie12:52
evox_so... please help12:53
Schuenemannyou can install 5 using apt-get12:53
kyle_Not that I'm aware of excitatory12:53
evox_Can you please tell me what to type into the console?12:53
Schuenemannwhat is the first thing to type in apt-get? update or upgrade?12:53
excitatorykyle_: that's rather strange that kde of all desktops would not have *that* option, no?12:53
excitatorySchuenemann: always update, then upgrade12:54
Schuenemannthx12:54
Schuenemannevox_: sudo apt-get update12:54
kyle_Here's my question:  used to be when I put an audio CD in the drive, I could click the icon and see the audio files.  It even had nifty (pseudo) directories where I could copy mp3/ogg versions of the music over.  Now... there's nothing.  I can still rip, but exploring it with Konq shows no files.  Thanks for any help you can give12:54
excitatorySchuenemann: update grabs a new list of packages and checks if any need to be updated.. and upgrade does just that.12:54
Schuenemannhumm12:54
evox_Ok now its given me a list of things12:55
dwidmannexcitatory: right click on the clock applet, Date and Time format. Play with that to get it the way you want12:55
Schuenemanngenii: I just broke the calculator12:55
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evox_What do I do now?12:56
Schuenemannevox_: the sudo apt-get upgrade12:56
excitatorykyle_: sounds like you either have in a data cd (or enhanced audio cd, i.e., multi-session disc) or something has gone wrong with konq, possibly the profile.. but i'm not too sure about that.12:56
lynucsanyone coudl help with krusader and thumbnails?12:56
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evox_evox@evox-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade12:56
evox_Reading package lists... Done12:56
evox_Building dependency tree12:56
evox_Reading state information... Done12:56
evox_0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.12:56
evox_evox@evox-desktop:~$12:56
evox_Thats what it tells me12:57
nibielknof3: does kopete let you see users who have removed you from their contact list like aMSN?12:57
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kyle_Thanks excitatory.  I have a theory...I have Home on a separate partition.  I regularly reinstall kubuntu over its partition, but get to keep my settings because .KDE is still the same in home.  I wonder if something died when I moved to Edgy12:57
Schuenemannsudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre12:57
excitatorydwidmann: i have.. go look.. i bet you can't put the day of the week in front of the date.12:57
dwidmannexcitatory: Well, lets see if I can then12:58
evox_it says it cant find the package12:58
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Schuenemann!universe | evox_12:58
ubotuevox_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:58
excitatorykyle_: well.. could be.. you can always rename ~/.kde and test it.. or test w/ a new user.. and while we're at it, why would one reinstall instead of dist-upgrading?12:59
lynucsguys, how can i make krusader to show thumbnails?? is it possible? if not, then how can i make krusader to show videofiles in preview?12:59
Schuenemannyou have to add universe and multiverse to your repositories12:59
Schuenemannevox_: take a look at that link, please12:59
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Linux_Galorekyle_: did you run dpkg --configure -a12:59
dwidmannexcitatory: It's all appearing in the same area for me ... three lines, time on the first, day next, then date12:59
nibidoes aMSN have any unique features which make it worth using instead of kopete?01:00
Schuenemannnibi: it looks a lot like msn01:00
kyle_exitatory: that's a fair question.  The most recent time it was because I had made some hardware changes and it wouldn't boot...reinstalling seemed easiest.  I'll keep dist-upgrade in mind for next time.  Thanks for your help.01:00
Schuenemannand I don't think kopete has webcam and other stuff01:00
excitatorynibi: video support.. that's it.01:00
nibii've heard you can tell who has blocked you and removed u from their list in aMSN01:01
nibiis that true or just urban legend01:01
Schuenemannyeah, it's true01:01
kyle_I haven't, Linux_Galore.  Should I try that now?01:01
Schuenemannat least for removed01:01
Schuenemannblocked, I believe not01:01
nibisweet action!01:01
nibiscrew kopete in that case01:01
Linux_Galorekyle_: yes, it makes sure that all the config scripts are run01:01
Schuenemannbut kopete might have that too, since gaim has too01:01
excitatorynibi: well.. you can always keep amsn installed and check it when you're paranoid about your fragile relationships :D01:01
Linux_Galorekyle_: its usually advisable in updates01:02
Linux_Galoreon*01:02
geniigaim rocks :)01:02
kyle_Thanks, I'll go give it a try.  Thanks for everyone's help and I hope you all have a good evening01:02
nibiexcitatory: roflmao01:02
Schuenemannhaha01:02
Schuenemannkopete is (or was) very ugly01:02
Schuenemannif you're using only msn, amsn01:02
Linux_GaloreIm not a fan of kopete01:03
Schuenemannif using other im's, gaim01:03
nibicool, thanks for the indo01:03
nibiinfo01:03
geniiYeah I use 4 IM types plus IRC plus sometimes TeamSpeak plugin01:03
Linux_GaloreI like Konversation though01:03
SchuenemannI had ICQ, but nobody around here uses it anymore01:03
Linux_Galorefor irc01:03
SchuenemannI still have my 6-digit uin, though :)01:03
dwidmannSpeaking of Kopete, I seem to have bad luck with it ... memory leaks galore .... currently clocking in at 257MB used (VMRSS) by Kopete alone.01:04
nibiwoa, thats not good01:04
excitatorydwidmann: so you're saying you were able to do it?01:04
Linux_Galoredwidmann: report a bug01:04
geniiSchuenemann :) I had one years ago but forgot the password perhaps 6 months later01:04
Schuenemann:-/01:04
elknof3nibi: i dont know if kopete let u see that information... but gaim do01:04
geniiMy current # I think since 98 or so01:04
SchuenemannI had a calculator 6 minutes ago, too01:04
excitatoryyea.. i'm not a big fan of kopete for that reason.. as nice as kopete looks, gaim is far more mature.01:04
Ace2016I have the same password for all my email addresses, and the same passes for every website login01:04
dwidmannLinux_Galore: I think I will01:04
Ace2016see that way i'll never forget them01:05
Ace2016:)01:05
dwidmannexcitatory: I'm not saying I couldn't do it :O01:05
brandon_gah, cedega won't install01:05
nibielknof3: isn't gaim better for gnome? i am using kde01:05
brandon_nibi, kopete01:05
brandon_it's good01:05
Linux_Galoredwidmann: your helping them by reporting a bug01:05
dwidmannI know, I've reported a few against Kopete before01:05
Schuenemannnibi: if you're using only MSN, go for aMSN01:05
Schuenemanntake a look at the screenshots, it looks a lot like MSN01:06
geniiThere needs to be some IM equivelent of grub01:06
nibischuenemann: thanks, thats what i just installed a second ago and i must agree its pretty cool01:06
brandon_can't install wine, and can't install cedega without freezes01:06
excitatorynibi: gaim or any other gtk/gnome app works in kde.. it just doesn't integrate that well.. however.. there are ways to make it visually integrate.. and things like gaim.. it fits in nicely into my kde desktop.01:06
geniiGrand Unified IM perhaps01:06
Schuenemanngrub?01:06
Schuenemannthere are many... or not?01:06
geniiSchuenemann Grand Unified Bootloader LOL01:06
Schuenemanngaim has a lot of protocols, including some I never heard of01:07
Schuenemanngagu gadu01:07
Schuenemanngadu gadu*01:07
evox_ ok I added Multiverse01:07
Schuenemannwtf is that?01:07
geniiJabber rocks01:07
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evox_then now I    hit fetcch updates01:07
evox_and its insstalling the updates and packages01:07
Schuenemannevox_: after you're done, try to install JRE again01:07
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excitatorySchuenemann: it's a polish IM network01:08
Schuenemannhumm01:08
geniiIs there some telnet plugin for gaim?01:08
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evox_ok01:08
Yakatyhello01:09
cloakablegenii: telnet? o.o01:09
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geniiYeah then you could tunnel ssh over it01:10
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excitatorygenii: first... why are you using telnet.. and second, why would you need to access it from gaim?01:10
cloakablegenii: :P01:10
Schuenemannmore likely firefox will have01:10
YakatyI'm trying to install kubuntu 6.10 and when it first boots up I press install, the loading screen comes up and then it dumps me into busybox saying "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"01:10
cloakablegenii: I'd prefer tunneling telnet over ssh :P01:11
Yakatyif I then do a "ls /dev/hd*" it only comes up with hda01:11
Yakatyany ideas?01:11
geniiWell I still use telnet for some ancient RPG sites that work like the old text game "adventure" for instance LOL I know it's horrible01:11
brandon_how do you change the k-menu icon?01:11
geniicloakable Heh01:11
evox_ok thanks for the help01:11
Linux_GaloreYakaty: it this feisty01:11
Schuenemannevox_: worked?01:11
evox_The adept manager is downloading and installin  JRE 501:11
YakatyLinux_Galore: no01:12
Linux_GaloreYakaty: what version then01:12
evox_Thanks again01:12
Schuenemannevox_: do "java -version" after it's done, to check if it's using sun's JRE and not GCJ01:12
YakatyLinux_Galore: 6.10 Edgy01:12
evox_ok01:12
geniiDid anything ever come of Blackdown java?01:13
Linux_GaloreYakaty: disable the job control in busybox01:14
Schuenemannwhat is blackdown?01:14
Yakatythe wierd thing is I installed ubuntu edgy a while back as a dual boot and it all worked perfectly so now when I come to get rid of windows its refusing to work :(01:14
YakatyLinux_Galore: ok how?01:14
geniiSchuenemann Used to be one of the few jre for linux01:14
Schuenemannbrandon_: perhaps #kde is a better place to ask01:14
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geniijvm/jre01:14
Schuenemannhonestly, no JVM gets close to Sun's01:14
Schuenemannand now that it's becoming free, there's no reason01:15
geniiYes :)01:15
excitatorypoor blackdown devs01:15
geniiI imagine they are Sun devs these days LOL01:15
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geniiProject LookingGlass from Sun looks wicked but i doubt even dual cores could do it well. We'll have to wait for like 16 cores01:16
Schuenemanndoes it involve swing?01:17
geniiIt's a pure java OS01:17
Schuenemannahh... I know01:17
genii3D desktop01:17
evox_In   Adept it says Prepairing Installation of sun-java5-bin... and its stuck on 28   percent01:17
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SchuenemannI don't think that will go very far01:17
Schuenemannevox_: for long?01:18
geniiI am a big proponent of vrml / open source 3D generally01:18
evox_Yea01:18
Schuenemannwell... I don't know... I'd wait01:18
Yakatyhmm.. just noticed when I ctrl+alt+f1 its got some errors on there: "cp: unable to poen '/root/var/log': No such file or directory", "mount: Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: No such file or directory", etc01:20
Yakaty"Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init"01:20
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geniihmm /root/var ????01:21
geniiLooks like you did some chroot or install under /root01:21
YakatyI know the CD is ok - I checked the checksum and verified the cd when I burned it - plus i redownloaded and reburnt just to be sure01:21
Yakatygenii: no thats from the install cd01:21
Yakatywhen it gets past the boot screen and the first progress screen comes up with the logo it gives me that01:22
geniiThat doesn't sound right01:22
Yakatyyeah tell me about it :( lol01:22
Linux_GaloreYakaty: its a known bug -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27988401:22
geniiMaybe just do chroot /root LOL01:23
Linux_GaloreYakaty: seems to be related to grub01:23
Yakatyhrmm.. thats wierd because I installed edgy on it before and had no problem01:24
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Linux_GaloreYakaty: is this a new cd ?01:24
Linux_GaloreYakaty: have you changed any of the hardware ?01:25
Yakatyyes01:25
Yakatyno its a laptop01:25
Yakatythe cd is definately ok though01:25
Linux_GaloreYakaty:  they do update the images01:25
YakatyI checked the dates on the ftp server and its october01:25
Yakatywhich I think is when I did the last install01:25
Linux_GaloreYakaty: some find the work round is using the alternate  cd01:26
geniiYes, there were in fact about 20 updates yesterday that I noticed when ran a diff apt-mirror on the archives01:26
evox_When I try to kill a process in the Process Table it tells me that I lack permissions to01:26
Yakatyyeah I'm downloading that now01:26
Linux_Galoreevox_:   sudo ksysguard01:26
evox_How do I kill a process?01:26
Schuenemannevox_: it's still there?01:26
Schuenemannstuck?01:26
evox_Well yes01:26
evox_Then I closed it01:26
Schuenemannwow this sucks01:26
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evox_and tried it all over again01:27
Yakatybah its so annoying they've broken it!! lol01:27
evox_and Now it tells me that there is a process using it01:27
Linux_GaloreYakaty: try feisty01:27
evox_and I opened process table and there are 5 adept managers running01:27
nixternaldvd ripping, what's my best bet? dvd::rip is giving me grief01:27
Linux_Galorenixternal: k3b01:27
Schuenemanndidn't you install using konsole?01:27
trikik901:27
nixternalshoot, i didn't even think about k3b01:27
HymnToLifenixternal, just rip or also encode ?01:27
nixternalall the above01:27
YakatyLinux_Galore: I'm going to try alternative first because I dont really like to live that close to the edge :)01:28
HymnToLifewindows in vmware :p01:28
Linux_Galorek3b = rip and burn01:28
trikik9 is for ripping01:28
nixternalewww01:28
nixternalLinux_Galore: ya, why i looked past that i will never know01:28
HymnToLifethat's wat I do anyway, Linux tools are not powerful enough to me01:28
trikianyone know how to connect to a shoutcast stream(video) ?01:28
HymnToLifewhen Avidemux will have decent SSA/ASS support, maybe I'll dump my Windows :p01:28
nixternalnot powerful enough?01:28
Linux_GaloreHymnToLife: how so, I do everything in Linux without issues01:29
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Schuenemannnixternal: he's a chuck norris01:29
nixternali have been using linux alone now for years, always been more than powerful for me01:29
HymnToLifeLinux_Galore, we were talking about DVD rip/encoding01:29
Linux_GaloreHymnToLife: ?? wtf, you can do all that in Linux01:29
Schuenemanntalking about that, is there any program that removes a CD/DVDs protection?01:29
HymnToLifeoh yeah ?01:29
HymnToLifeI'll send you some SSAs, try to encode them in Linux01:30
Linux_GaloreHymnToLife:  k3b and vlc will encode01:30
trikik9copy01:30
SchuenemannLinux_Galore: does k3b remove DVD's protection?01:30
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: yep01:30
Dr_willisdvd protection?01:30
Schuenemannhow?01:30
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: re rips it01:30
Schuenemannit didn't when I tried some time ago01:30
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: decodes on the fly and re rips ti01:31
Linux_Galoreit*01:31
Dr_willisnever noticed k3b ripping dvd to video. or that stuff.. but it may be a new feature in the newer k3b's01:31
SchuenemannI tried copying a protected DVD and it failed01:31
Linux_GaloreDr_willis: recent feature01:31
Schuenemannthere's a program in windows called anydvd that removes those protections01:31
Schuenemannlike country01:31
geniiIn worst case scenario where there is some stupid new scheme for encryption you can always use a virtual patch cable and pipe player output directly to some encoding engine01:31
Dr_willisI rarely try to rip dvds to video. :)01:31
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: rip it first01:31
Schuenemannwhat do you mean by rip?01:32
Dr_willisVirtual Patch Cable.. heh heh01:32
Schuenemanngenerate an image?01:32
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magicbronson_just plugged in a usb wireless adapter to my ubuntu machine. according to ifconfig, wlan0 is pulling an IP from my wireless router. anyone have any idea why /proc/net/wireless says my link quality is 0 and i have no internet? i'm right next to the router.01:32
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Schuenemannor copying the songs/videos ?01:32
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: convert to a xvid avi set it to a high resolution01:32
Schuenemannbut that isn't exacly copying01:32
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Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: thats ripping01:32
SchuenemannI'll have a different dvd01:32
Schuenemannno way to make an exact copy?01:33
geniiScuenemann For Widoze I grew fond of DVDecryptor/DVDShrink as sort of a package for ripping01:33
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: otherwise just dd the dvd to a a file01:33
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: thats what I do01:33
SchuenemannLinux_Galore: you do that with a protected disk?01:33
geniiYeah I've dd'd DVD isos LOL01:33
Schuenemannwhat is dd01:34
Schuenemann?01:34
geniiDiskDupe some would say01:34
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Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: yes01:34
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann:  dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/pirates/mypiratedcopy.iso01:34
geniiBasically bit for bit copies some dev etc01:34
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: then just use k3b to burn the iso01:34
Schuenemannwhat is this? dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/pirates/mypiratedcopy.iso01:35
geniiif <- Input File =01:35
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: dd will literally copy the image of the cd/dvd and save it as a iso file01:35
HymnToLifedumps the CD/DVD to an ISO01:35
Schuenemannis that a shell command?01:35
geniiof <- Output File01:35
geniiyes01:35
HymnToLifeman dd :)01:35
Schuenemannhmmm... interesting >)01:36
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: all that k3b is doing is copying the literal image back to another dvd01:36
Schuenemannbut won't the new copy carry the protection too?01:37
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: yes01:37
Schuenemannouch...01:37
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: thats why people rip them01:37
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Schuenemannyou know, you can't watch a DVD from US at South America01:37
geniiDr_willis as a point of interest I heard first of virtual patch cables from some guys using theis method to pipe skype into an asterisk box :)01:37
Schuenemannor Europe01:37
nixternalim not worried about that stuff, these are homemade dvd movies..plus i don't use windows so im not into that whole warez scene and illegal movies01:38
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: just rip the dvd to a avi, then it will play on anything01:38
geniiThats why region-free drive firmware is sooo good01:38
nixternalno avi! ogg only :)01:38
nixternalogm01:38
Linux_Galoreavi is open01:38
Schuenemannnixternal: watching a DVD outside its country is illegal?01:38
Linux_Galoreits just a container01:38
Schuenemannillegal movie01:38
morghanphoenixOGG has problems being recognized by a lot of programs01:38
geniiyeah ogg flacc etc01:38
nixternalwell if my home movies make it outside this country, then people have no life01:38
nixternal;p01:38
HymnToLife[01:38]  <Linux_Galore> avi is open <= true, but it still stinks01:38
nixternalhehe01:39
geniiThere is ogg plugin for Windoze Mplayer now01:39
morghanphoenixI use MP3 & AVI just for compatability with everything01:39
SchuenemannI'm not talking about your home videos, of course01:39
Linux_GaloreHymnToLife: I get no issues, all my stuff is very clear, I use xvid for encoding01:39
HymnToLifeI use H.264 / Vorbis / ASS / MKV :)01:39
nixternali am like this, if someone wants a copy of my music or my videos, they better get ogg, im not here to make their lives easier :)01:39
nixternaljust freeeeeeee01:39
Linux_Galoremkv is rubbish, total resource hog01:39
morghanphoenixI use acidrip to encode01:39
nixternaldvd::rip is great, now that i know how to use it01:40
geniinixternal Me too :) If they wanna listen to the ICE server they better be able to do ogg01:40
Schuenemann!ogg01:40
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:40
nixternalwoot01:40
Schuenemannbah01:40
HymnToLifeLinux_Galore, get a PC which is less than 5 years old :)01:40
morghanphoenixOGG doesn't want to be recognized as video format on my slackware system.01:40
Linux_GaloreHymnToLife: Im on a work station01:40
morghanphoenixWorks great on the Kubuntu one01:40
Linux_GaloreHymnToLife: dual Xeion P401:40
nixternalogg videos work great on my slack machine, forgot which package though i had to compile for it01:41
geniiLinux_Galore Thats a pretty hefty box :)01:41
Linux_GaloreHymnToLife: I can play mkv with no issues but it still is a resource hog and talkes "longer" to encode than xvid01:41
Schuenemannogg is very old01:41
Linux_Galoretakes*01:41
HymnToLifeLinux_Galore, bu saying that, you prove you know nothing about it01:41
HymnToLifeMKV is a container, just like AVI01:41
HymnToLifenothing to do with the video compression format01:42
Linux_Galorealso mkv produces more fragmentation in the image than xvid01:42
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Linux_Galoresorry avi01:42
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morghanphoenixI like acidrip, all my DVDs under 700 MB01:42
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morghanphoenixEach one plays from a CD now so I don't destroy my discs01:43
nixternali am trying an avi rip to see the size of it01:43
Schuenemanncan k3b rip?01:43
Linux_GaloreIm so used to ripping xvid/avi I have a mental merging now01:43
geniimorghanphoenix How does it cope with widesceen? Alright?01:43
dwidmannSchuenemann: yes01:43
nixternalhehe01:43
soulrider!mouse01:43
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto01:43
Schuenemannhummm01:43
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dwidmannSchuenemann: at least the 1.0pre1 and on can01:43
morghanphoenixYeah, works great with widescreen01:43
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: yes01:43
Schuenemanncan k3b generate SVCD too?01:43
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: yep01:43
morghanphoenixK3B can rip now?01:43
Schuenemannnice01:43
morghanphoenixWhen did I miss that?01:43
SchuenemannSVCD is cool for watching at a dvd player01:43
geniiyeah k3b is like the swiss army knife01:44
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dwidmannmorghanphoenix: Months ago01:44
Linux_Galoremorghanphoenix: that was added about 6 months ago01:44
evox_Ok im back01:44
evox_I need help with the adept manager01:44
dwidmannI think the grounds for it were there but horribly broken in 0.1201:44
Schuenemanndidn't you install it using konsole?01:44
morghanphoenixI'm happy at last though, just got UO & EverCrack working on my computer01:44
evox_Every time I try to start it up or do any apt get stuff it tells me that its being used by another process01:44
evox_No I cant do it in konsole01:45
morghanphoenixOnly things I missed about windows.01:45
_226morghanphoenix: if UO stands for Ultima Online01:45
Schuenemannevox_: sudo ksysguard01:45
_226you still can play it01:45
Linux_Galoreevox_:   type  apt-get update   it should spit out an error01:45
_226;>01:45
geniiI sorta get nostalgic for the Flying Windows screensaver LOL01:45
morghanphoenixSince 200101:45
SchuenemannLinux_Galore: how do I generate SVCD?01:45
Linux_Galoreevox_:   type  sudo apt-get update   it should spit out an error01:45
_226k, now, lets whine.01:45
dwidmannfor ksysguard, just hit ctrl + escape ;)01:46
_226GODDAMN KARAMBA01:46
_226:<01:46
morghanphoenixOf course I've played Ultima since the 80s so it just seemed to be the right MMORPG for me to go with01:46
dwidmann_226, sure, why not01:46
evox_yea it did01:46
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evox_E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.01:46
geniiGeez I remember Ultima for the C6401:46
rideouthow do i make konversation automatically set me to 'away' after a certain timeout, or if the screensaver comes on?01:46
geniievox_ Informative and instuctive :)01:46
evox_What?01:47
morghanphoenixPlayed the whole series, wonder if WINE would let me play that Ultima Collection that's laying around here somewhere.01:47
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evox_Any help here?01:47
Schuenemanndo as konsole said01:47
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geniievox_ The error msg informs you of what step you need to take to correct the problem ... that is instructive and informative01:48
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evox_Ok it says "Setting up lipltdl301:48
evox_Now its back at the command01:48
morghanphoenixDoes anyone know why my status bars on installers and rips don't move?01:48
SchuenemannLinux_Galore: the manual says nothing about SVCD, are you sure k3b supports that?01:48
cloakableDoes anyone know what I should to to back a dvd to an xvid file with k3b?01:48
morghanphoenixEverything works just fine, but I have no idea how long I have left01:48
excitatoryevox_: and now re-run whatever you were running that it failed on..01:48
dwidmannSchuenemann: I wouldn't doubt if the manual was out of date, that happens a lot01:49
evox_Thanks sooooooooooo much01:49
evox_Its installing now01:49
dwidmanncloakable: which version of k3b are you using?01:49
Schuenemanndwidmann: do you know how to do it?01:49
cloakabledwidmann: latest version with Edgy01:49
dwidmannSchuenemann: I've never played with SVCD, so I wouldn't know01:49
Ace2016Hi all01:50
dwidmanncloakable: You need a still newer version, 1.0RC2 from www.k3b.org01:50
Ace2016I'm in kde now, but how do i change the gnome icon theme?01:50
cloakabledwidmann: Ahhh.01:50
Schuenemannnot final?01:50
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cloakabledwidmann: Do they supply a deb file?01:50
geniiHmm gnome icon theme in kde01:50
SchuenemannI have 0.12.1701:50
dwidmannNo01:50
_226Ace2016: download it and change in the System Management tool?01:50
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dwidmanncloakable: you'll have to compile it yourself, fortunately k3b is a breeze to compile, no caveats01:51
geniiI forgot that existed01:51
Ace2016_226: I installed the gnome but now what? what system management tool?01:51
cloakabledwidmann: Yeah, but getting updates isn't :P But no problem, getting now.01:51
evox_Unpacking replacement sun-java5-bin ...01:51
evox_Setting up sun-java5-bin (1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1) ...01:51
evox_Setting up sun-java5-jre (1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1) ...01:51
evox_evox@evox-desktop:~$01:51
evox_Now what next?01:51
Schuenemannevox_: java -version01:52
dwidmanncloakable, if you feel th at way, why not dump it in /opt/k3brc2 or some such?01:52
Ace2016sudo update-alternatives --config java01:52
geniijava -version ...damn beat to the punch01:52
cloakabledwidmann: Can you guide me in going that?01:52
evox_java version "1.4.2"01:52
evox_java version "1.4.2"01:52
evox_..........It didnt work01:52
Schuenemannevox_: do as Ace2016 said01:52
Ace2016evox_: run sudo update-alternatives --config java01:52
dwidmannevox_: now sudo update-alternatives --config java01:52
dwidmanndrat, Ace2016 beat me to th e punch :D01:53
geniievox_ my guess is it *did* work but the old version is still being used/cached01:53
Ace2016and Schuenemann beat me to it01:53
dwidmanncloakable: sure thing01:53
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cloakabledwidmann: Thanks :)01:53
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Schuenemannand no one beat me to it01:53
evox_Ok now it lists 3 things01:53
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Schuenemannchoose Sun's01:53
Ace2016pick *+        2    /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java01:53
Schuenemannversion 5.0 or 1.501:53
evox_  Selection    Alternative01:54
evox_-----------------------------------------------01:54
evox_          1    /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.101:54
evox_*+        2    /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java01:54
evox_          3    /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java01:54
evox_Choose 3?01:54
Schuenemannso, option 301:54
geniibleh01:54
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Ace2016yea01:54
evox_Thank you guys again01:54
dwidmanncloakable, first switch on the deb-src repositories for main and universe at least, or put for restricted and multiverse too just to be safe, then sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude build-dep k3b01:54
evox_ok now.....Are we allowed to talk about installing Limewire?01:54
morghanphoenixwhy not use frostwire?01:55
Ace2016installing yes, possible uses might be a grey area01:55
cloakabledwidmann: I already have all source repos enabled :)01:55
morghanphoenixworks better than limewire for me01:55
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_a_VCD_or_SVCD01:55
geniiI still like my old bittorrent01:55
evox_well Just need to install01:55
evox_ok I have limewirelinux.rpm on my desktop01:55
Schuenemannis there limewire for linux?01:55
nixternalfrostwire01:55
morghanphoenixfrostwire is for linux01:55
Ace2016i like azureus, takes up lots of ram but it works well01:55
SchuenemannLinux_Galore: thank you01:55
evox_thats a torrent01:55
Linux_GaloreAce2016: same here01:56
evox_ok so try frost wire?01:56
morghanphoenixYup01:56
morghanphoenixWorks great, it's actually limewire01:56
Linux_GaloreAzureus for me still has the best speeds01:56
geniiI usually get whatever tunes by torrent01:56
morghanphoenixafter they got sued they changed the name01:56
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SchuenemannLinux_Galore: he isn't using k3b there, right?01:56
evox_I use Utorrent01:56
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: no, seems they dropped the svcd stuff01:57
dwidmanncloakable: after that, extract the tarball from k3b.org, (tar xf filename.tar.bz2), cd into the new folder, ./configure --enable-debug=full --prefix=/opt/k3brc2; make; sudo make install01:57
SchuenemannI see01:57
geniievox_ Yeah that one is good too01:57
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: hmm wonder if there is another kde front end to do it01:57
morghanphoenixwtf is status c000013501:57
geniiAzureus I like interface but hate speed.resource hog01:57
cloakabledwidmann: Thanks!01:57
morghanphoenixkeepstelling me extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".01:57
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geniiSounds suspiciously like an ATI fglrx thingy01:58
morghanphoenixI'm using a nvidia card01:58
dwidmanncloakable: the prefix part may be a gray area, you might need something else, that something being telling the compiler where the qt and kde libraries are ... which would be /usr/lib or some such. That or you could just leave out the prefix and it alleviates that problem.01:58
geniiPerhaps check your mesa drivers01:58
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geniiand libglu* libgl1* stuff01:59
cloakabledwidmann: I don't generally get problems like that, though.01:59
evox_Ok now I have the Frostwire Tarball on my Desktop01:59
evox_what now?01:59
cloakabledwidmann: configure went through smoothly :)01:59
dwidmannWith regards to azureus, I hear it's actually decent if you're using Java 6, according to jdong from the ubuntuforums02:00
morghanphoenixI used the deb file for frostwire, tarballs always seem to be missing something02:00
cloakabledwidmann: make running now. Should it take long on a 1.6GHz CPU?02:00
dwidmanncloakable: it's a fairly quick compile, it's not too big02:00
geniiYeah usually the ./configure file!02:00
dwidmannI think it takes about a minute on mine ...02:00
genii^missing on tarballs02:01
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Schuenemannwhat do you use as ed2k client?02:01
Schuenemannlmule? xmule?02:01
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cloakabledwidmann: Well, the compiling is going through :P02:02
dwidmanncloakable: to get rid of the warning on k3b start regarding growisofs being <7, you can get that from I forget where, I'll have to find the thing, but apparantly growisofs 7 is out.02:02
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Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: no02:02
geniiedonkey?02:02
Schuenemannwhat then?02:02
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: he's recommending k3b for burning but not encoding the iso02:03
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/search.php02:03
cloakabledwidmann: Is it a gui warning or a command line warning?02:03
morghanphoenixhow do you make divx discs?02:03
dwidmanncloakable: gui warning02:03
Schuenemanngenii: edonkey02:03
dwidmanncloakable: it will tell you you'll have issues with burning multisession dvds, or something like that. I think growisofs7 has bluray support too.02:03
evox_Ok Frostwire is up and working02:04
cloakabledwidmann: Ah well, I can live with that :P02:04
evox_Thanks all for help. Im off to use my New installed Linux02:04
cloakabledwidmann: I can't burn DVD's :P02:04
Linux_Galoremorghanphoenix: you dont make a divx disk you just rip to a divx/avi file02:04
cloakableAnyway02:04
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dwidmanncloakable: ah well :P02:04
morghanphoenixI have AVI files02:04
geniiAVI -> dvd = pain02:05
Linux_Galoremorghanphoenix: avi is the container divx is the encoder02:05
morghanphoenixhow do you make them play in a portable divx player?02:05
morghanphoenixI have one of those palmtop thingies02:05
Linux_Galoremorghanphoenix: just encode the video to a format the player supports02:05
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morghanphoenixJust burn the file to disc then and pop it in?02:06
Linux_Galoremorghanphoenix: google is you friend, we are not google02:06
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jon__hello02:07
dwidmann!googlism02:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about googlism - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:07
jon__can someone help me?02:07
LjL!helpme02:07
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:07
Ace2016!google02:07
ubotuGoogle is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux02:07
genii!googleholic02:07
jon__righteo02:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about googleholic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:07
dwidmannApparently ubotu doesn't endorse other religions :P02:07
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jon__i have realplayer, but i cannot watch embedded fiels02:07
jon__files02:07
jon__how can i fix this?02:07
morghanphoenixI kept getting windows programs and over technical explainations from google, maybe there should be a google.com/for-idiots02:07
Ace2016jon__: which site is this?02:07
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morghanphoenixor kiss02:08
jon__petatv.com02:08
Linux_Galoremorghanphoenix:   type  www.google.com/linux02:08
jon__or goveg.com02:08
jon__however, i am abled to stream democracynow with realplayer02:08
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geniixmms02:09
jon__when i try here tho, it says "could not find an appropriate hxplay or realplay in the system path to use as an embedded player"02:09
Ace2016jon__: it plays in my konqueror fine, the kplayer kpart was used for playback02:09
geniiInteresting, Konqueror02:10
jon__im not familiar with konqueror02:10
jon__is that a web browser?02:10
geniiyes02:10
Ace2016jon__: and firefox played it fine too with the mplayer plugin02:10
jon__im using moz firefox02:10
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Linux_Galorejon__: just install realplayer and make sure its in your path02:10
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jon__i have realplayer installed02:10
Ace2016jon__: but both times i chose windows media instead of realplayer02:10
SchuenemannLinux_Galore: does that tutorial applies only for mpeg? Or avi works too?02:10
jon__how do i make sure its in my path?02:11
jon__i think thats what i need help with02:11
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: well k3b will do mpeg4 anyway02:11
jon__because i definately have realplayer and use it frequently02:11
Ace2016no wait firefox didn't play it, said it too soon, mplayer plugin faild02:11
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SchuenemannLinux_Galore: I mean, can I generate the SVCD having an AVI?02:11
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Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: isnt svcd strictly mpeg02:12
morghanphoenixlinux google is better, actually might find my answer sometime tonight02:12
Schuenemannoops, not that02:12
morghanphoenixlol02:12
Schuenemannyeah, sorry02:12
jon__where do i find this system path and how do i make sure that realplay is in it?02:12
trikiecho $PATH02:13
cloakabledwidmann: O.o still compiling02:13
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: you can create a data cd, what I do is rip the a xvid/mpeg4  avi then burn ti to a cd. my dvd player has no issues02:13
Schuenemannas svcd?02:13
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Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: all within k3b02:13
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: no svcd isnt a data cd02:13
morghanphoenixthey really like dvd::rip02:14
dwidmanncloakable: wow, your system must be slow o.O02:14
SchuenemannI didn't know if would play a datacd as a video02:14
cloakabledwidmann: AMD Athlon XP 2000+ - 1.6GHz02:14
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: you just rip the dvd to a file thats fits on a CD then burn it to a cd as a data CD02:14
Schuenemanninteresting02:14
Schuenemanndoes your dvd player read dvd+rw?02:15
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: check the specs on your dvd player though02:15
dwidmanncloakable: compare with AMD Athlon 64 FX-60 - 2.6 GHz ... slow by comparison anyhow02:15
dwidmanncloakable: I wouldn't think it would be by that much though ...02:15
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: yes02:15
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SchuenemannI believe mine does too, I'll try that :)02:15
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: I paid a bit more for my dvd player so I could get multi format support02:16
morghanphoenixI'm waiting for a athlon 64, still too expensive for me, and none in the recycle bins like my athlon was.02:16
Ace2016konqueror and kplayer couldn't play the real version :(02:16
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morghanphoenixI love working at places where people throw away computers02:16
geniime too02:16
Schuenemannmine has many formats too, I'll check if it plays dvd+rw02:16
cloakabledwidmann: I'm going to be switching to dual Opteron 256 :) You reckon that'll be faster?02:16
Ace2016morghanphoenix: where would this be?02:16
jon__how about this question02:16
jon__how do i install a bin file02:16
jon__thats a plugin02:17
Ace2016./binfilehere02:17
Linux_GaloreAce2016: ?? , thats because you havent set your file associations02:17
jon__for firefox02:17
morghanphoenixat a pc recycle and reclaim place, I test the trashed computers and put together working ones02:17
dwidmanncloakable: I would hope so02:17
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Ace2016Linux_Galore: kplayer loads as the kpart but doesn't start playing02:17
morghanphoenixIt's usually only a software issue too02:17
Linux_GaloreAce2016: you can tell konquerior that when it sees set file types to open the file with a set application02:17
morghanphoenixpeople throw away stuff for the dumbest reasons02:17
cloakabledwidmann: make done, running make install02:17
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Linux_GaloreAce2016: its on your settings02:18
geniimake dep?02:18
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Linux_Galorein*02:18
Ace2016Linux_Galore: where?02:18
Linux_GaloreAce2016: open konqueror02:18
cloakabledwidmann: running it02:18
Ace2016done02:18
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cloakabledwidmann: not getting a gui?02:19
Linux_GaloreAce2016:  Settings -> Configure Konqueror02:19
dwidmanncloakable: really?02:19
dwidmanncloakable: are you running the right binary?02:19
Linux_GaloreAce2016: look for File associations02:19
jon__how do i install a bin plugin file for firefox02:19
cloakabledwidmann: the k3b binary?02:19
jon__do i just drop it in the plugin folder?02:20
dwidmanncloakable: yes02:20
dwidmannjon__: chmod +x *.bin; ./filename.bin02:20
cloakabledwidmann: in /opt/k3brc2/bin/02:20
geniijon__ Worth a shot. You should also perhaps do sudo chmod +x whateverthebinnameis02:20
dwidmannIt's probably a shell script/installer thingy02:20
cloakabledwidmann: That's the one.02:21
jon__thankx02:21
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dwidmanncloakable: that should be the right one ... perhaps changing the prefix caused trouble afterall :\02:21
cloakableArgh.02:21
dwidmannAnd even worse, it wasn't kind enough to print out an error regarding it?02:22
dwidmanndouble argh02:22
morghanphoenixhow do you convert .ico files to usable icons for Linux02:22
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cloakabledwidmann: Nope02:22
geniiwhat ico to xpm ?02:22
morghanphoenixto whatever KDE recognizes as an icon02:22
dwidmannor png, png works too02:22
Linux_Galoremorghanphoenix: you mean ico to png or jpg02:22
cloakabledwidmann: going to look for a deb of it, I think02:23
morghanphoenixyeah, is there a converter or do I need to install a graphics program?02:23
Linux_Galoremorghanphoenix: use gimp02:23
dwidmanncloakable: I don't think there is one02:23
Linux_Galoremorghanphoenix: open the file and resave it02:23
rich4234any good clocks that are customizable for 6.06?02:23
geniisince they are bitmaps (Windoze bmp) you need some bmp2png idea maybe in a package with cjpeg etc02:23
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cloakabledwidmann: There probably is :P02:24
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genii!cjpeg02:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cjpeg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:24
geniiyou lie ubotu!02:24
genii!cjpg02:24
dwidmanncloakable: switch the prefix back and I highly doubt it will give you any trouble, instead of changing the prefix, change the program-suffix/prefix, so it just appends something to the name of things and doesn't overwrite your 0.12.7 or whatnot02:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cjpg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:24
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LjL!libjpeg-progs02:25
ubotulibjpeg-progs: Programs for manipulating JPEG files. In component main, is optional. Version 6b-13 (edgy), package size 75 kB, installed size 208 kB02:25
LjLthe 'cjpeg' program is contained in that package.02:25
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LjLthe simple fact that you've got a program doesn't mean there is a package with the exact same name -- which there isn't02:25
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flaccidi like using apt:// in konqi02:26
LjL!packages02:26
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!02:26
LjL"dpkg -S" and "apt-file" are also very useful for finding what package a file belongs to02:26
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morghanphoenixanybody know the default kubuntu directory for icons?02:29
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dwidmann/usr/share/icons02:29
dwidmannprobably02:29
morghanphoenixThanks, gimp worked, it's a png now.02:29
geniiI remember there used to be a score of converter progs in one package that included cjpeg and had to do with mgetty-sendfax but darned if I can recall the package02:30
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peteis it a bug that kde progress bar on a usb device ends before all the data is copied?  i have also noticed that when i select to safely remove the device the status says that it is complete, but the usb busy light stil blinks for a couple of minutes...02:30
Jucatopete: yes I think so02:30
geniieg :  g32pdf   etc etc02:30
Linux_Galorepete: cache02:31
peteis it a udev thing, because it worked in breezy and hoary02:31
geniipbmplus :)02:31
genii!pbmplus02:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pbmplus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:31
genii! info pbmplus02:32
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ubotuPackage pbmplus does not exist in any distro I know02:32
pynsahol<<02:32
pynsahola02:32
geniiargh02:32
Linux_Galorepete: I get the same, seems to vary though between thumb drives02:32
peteLinux_Galore: is there a settting for reducing the cache size?02:32
geniimust be *bsd package02:33
geniiTime to go home for a nap LOL02:33
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Linux_Galorepete: not sure, Ive never looked into it02:33
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Linux_Galorepete: seems to only effect usb 1.1 and 1.2, no issues with 2.002:33
geniihave fun all02:33
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peteis there a way to speed up the responce of window launches and general KDE tasks? It seams that KDE 3.5 and edgy is alot choppier than KDE 3.45 and Breezy.02:34
Linux_Galorepete: basically the write speed on the drive is slow02:34
Linux_Galorepete: get a drive with a faster write speed02:34
Linux_Galorepete: thumb drives dont all write at the same speed, some are really slow02:35
reggieis there another way besides adept to install downloaded software packages?02:35
Linux_Galorepete: also dont use usb 1 ports02:35
robotgeekreggie: apt-get02:36
peteits a CF Sandisk Ultra II and the read/write is a 2.0.  I have no problems on Gnome/edgy on another machine that is a PIII vs the KDE/edgy machine that is a Celeron D02:36
robotgeekreggie: using the command line, i.e02:36
reggiekk02:36
Jucatoinstall downloaded packages? sound like you downloaded .deb fiels?02:36
Jucatofiles*02:36
peteit is a KDE, or celeron thing.02:36
Linux_Galorepete: the drive may be usb 2 but is the actual port, P3's are usually usb 1.202:36
reggienetscape02:36
cloakabledwidmann: No packages. If I install k3b straight into my system, will apt overwrite it when I upgrade k3b next?02:37
reggiethen i unzipped02:37
Jucato:O02:37
Jucatoreggie: is it a .deb or .tar.gz file?02:37
reggie1 sec02:37
petethe P3 with Gnome/edgy works flawless and the celeron with KDE/edgy does not.02:37
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robotgeekheh02:37
reggietar.gz02:38
reggiethats the zipped file02:38
Linux_Galorepete: so your saying its not showing as a slow transfer but showing the transfer to cache02:38
Jucatoreggie: then you will most probably need to compile that02:38
dwidmanncloakable: Probably, if your'e worried about that, you could try using --program-suffix in ./configure, like, ./configure --enable-debug=full --program-suffix=-rc2 .... otherwise, yes, it should overwrite it with the next upgrade (which could be a bad thing rather than a good thing)02:38
reggiek i unzipped it02:38
Jucato!compile | reggie02:38
ubotureggie: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)02:38
reggieand now i need to run the installer02:38
Linux_Galorepete: I have an old P3 machine with the same bug but not with the same software on a new P402:39
cloakabledwidmann: Ahhh.02:39
Jucatoreggie: oh it has an installer?02:39
reggieyes02:39
peteits mainly that KDE/konquerer finishes way before the actual tansfer ends.02:39
Jucatooh ok... good luck then :)02:39
dwidmanncloakable: if you use the program-suffix option, the binary would be something like /usr/bin/k3b-rc202:39
reggiebut the command line they gave me to run doesnt work02:39
Gadget100where do i get a list of known bugs for edgy?02:39
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cloakabledwidmann: Thanks :)02:39
Jucato!bugs02:39
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots02:39
reggiethey gave me ./netscape-installer02:39
peteand the unmount does the same.  the device shows that it is unmounted in KDE before the device is done working.02:40
Linux_Galorepete: is the usb  chipset 1.2 ?02:40
reggieand i get an error of -n is not valid extension02:40
Jucatoreggie: you should run that command inside the folder where netscape-installer is02:40
reggiei did02:40
peteWhen I do everyting in the terminal it works correctly... Thats whay I think its a KDE problem02:40
JucatoLinux_Galore: afaik, it's a known bug in Edgy. (progress bar disappearing or not showing up at all)02:40
Linux_Galorepete: with usb 2 it should write faster than the hardisk can read02:40
Linux_GaloreJucato: I dont get it with my new machine02:41
Linux_GaloreJucato: but I do with my old one02:41
reggieim such a noob at this its frustrating.............02:41
Jucatoreggie: any particular reason you need netscape?02:41
dwidmannLinux_Galore: I don't know, hard drives can read pretty fast :)02:41
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reggiemy firfox keeps crashing02:41
Linux_Galoredwidmann: not as 400mb/s02:41
reggieplus i like the look and feel of netscape02:42
Linux_Galoreat*02:42
dwidmann400, here, I thought it was 40, or 48, wasn't it ....... whereas, hard drives, more like 63 ...02:42
peteKeep in mind that firefox is a memory hog.02:42
JucatoLinux_Galore, pete: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/6194602:42
reggieim running 1 gig of ram....02:42
Linux_Galoredwidmann: no USB 2 is 400mb/s ave02:43
cloakabledwidmann: doing ./configure again :P02:43
reggiei was going to uninstall the n reinstall02:43
reggiefirefox02:43
dwidmannLinux_Galore: I think that's another one of those Mbs vs MiBs things, blah02:43
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Linux_Galoredwidmann: think your right. aslo hardisks never relate the the bus speeds02:44
Linux_Galoreto the*02:44
Linux_Galoredwidmann: bugger all difference between a SATA150 and a ATA10002:45
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dwidmann/dev/sda:02:45
dwidmann Timing cached reads:   3576 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1787.76 MB/sec02:45
dwidmann Timing buffered disk reads:  182 MB in  3.02 seconds =  60.31 MB/sec02:45
peteLinux_Galore:  Thats it! THANKS! atleast I know its a bug...02:45
Linux_Galoredwidmann: because neither can max out02:45
cloakabledwidmann: And adding libdvdread-dev to the preinstall list might help :P02:45
dwidmanncloakable: ah, I think I already had that, was it neccessary?02:46
Linux_Galoredwidmann: aaah its a dbus bug02:46
cloakabledwidmann: Otherwise, video DVD reading wouldn't work.02:46
rich4234is there a better program than kroller.sez, it has terrible graphics lag even with 2 gigs of ram and a good video card.02:46
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dwidmannLinux_Galore: what is?02:47
dwidmanncloakable: hmm02:47
Linux_Galoredwidmann: the usb thumb speed02:47
cloakabledwidmann: :P Which is the whole reason for me installing this version :P02:47
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dwidmanncloakable: that would be funny if you didn't pull that in then wouldn't it?02:47
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Linux_Galoredwidmann: showing completed when it shouldnt02:47
HailandKill!ksynaptics02:47
ubotuksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2 (edgy), package size 206 kB, installed size 1008 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)02:47
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cloakabledwidmann: Yeah :P02:48
rich4234anybody?02:48
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dwidmannrich4234: for doing what?02:49
peteanyone have links to speed up the responce of KDE?  or things to check? mine seems choppy with edgy vs breezy and hoary02:49
petedoes prelink actually help?02:49
rich4234I was wondering if there is a better program for kubuntu other than kroller.sez, looks like the mac toolbar with scrollable icons02:50
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tolkihi all02:50
dwidmannpete: probably want to turn off some of the graphical effects, and prelink can help, just you won't see the difference the first time you load the program, also, it can make installing things take forever if you re-run prelink every time you install something new (which would be necessary if it were to be used with the newly installed things)02:50
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petedwidmann: were KDE defaults set up different in edgy vs breezy?02:52
Linux_Galorepete: pre linking does help and heres some other info -> http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Performance%20Tips02:52
Linux_Galorepete: nice thread talking about pre linking etc -> http://lists.kde.org/?t=107720614700002&r=1&w=202:53
dwidmannpete: I wouldn't doubt it02:53
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JucatoLinux_Galore: does prelinking still work these days?02:55
Linux_Galoredwidmann: hmm USB should have a locking clip to stop people removing devices by accident02:55
Linux_GaloreJucato: yes02:55
Jucatohm...02:56
dwidmannLinux_Galore: should, lest people want to end up with problems, or lack of written data02:56
Jucatonoticeable improvements?02:56
Linux_Galoredwidmann: the computer locks the socket until all data is transfered02:56
dwidmannDoes it now? Doesn't for me ...02:57
dwidmannI could just as easily pull it out in the middle of a transfer ..02:57
hattano, usb should be robust enough to not be bothered by accidental removal of devices02:57
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cloakabledwidmann: how long did my last compile take? *yawns*02:58
dwidmanncloakable: too long02:58
cloakabledwidmann: Hehe02:58
cloakableJust sat here, watching 'make' spam text at me :P02:59
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dwidmanncloakable: that could almost make a usable screensaver o.O02:59
cloakabledwidmann: A bit cpu heavy, though :P02:59
cloakabledwidmann: and very intimidating to non-techy users :D03:00
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dwidmannOooh, even better yet03:00
cloakabledwidmann: someone needs to make a screensaver of a compile :D03:00
dwidmannCouldn't be any more cpu intensive than running an opengl screensaver without hardware 3d acceleration03:01
cloakabledwidmann: Yeah :P both take 100% CPU03:01
dwidmannCrud, Kopete is actually starting to lag now ... I've got it taking 275MB/RAM now03:02
cloakabledwidmann: Yeah, Kopete seems to be a RAM hog.03:03
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dwidmannfiled the bug report 15 minutes ago :O03:04
dwidmannI forgave it when it was taking up 125MB, but 275 seems more than a bit excessive03:04
cloakabledwidmann: just ran k3b-rc2...03:04
dwidmannsuccess or not?03:04
cloakabledwidmann: sucess!03:05
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dwidmannDon't tell me it still hates you ... oooooooooooooo, that's good03:05
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cloakabledwidmann: soo, making that backup :D03:06
dwidmannAh well, good night all ...... have to be up in about 6 hours03:07
cloakableDammit, it won't start again03:07
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dwidmannwhat?03:07
dwidmannwhy not ....03:07
cloakableNo idea. I run k3b-rc2, and the command just sits there.03:08
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dwidmanntry doing killall k3b-rc2 ..... then re-running it?03:08
dwidmannhad it crashed, or did you close it?03:08
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cloakablecrashed03:08
dwidmannthat's odd, I've not crashed it yet03:09
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cloakabledwidmann: just ran that, then ran k3b-rc2 again. Still nothing03:09
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morghanphoenixXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"03:09
dwidmannThat's just weird, try logging out, logging back in, then running it03:09
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morghanphoenixThat's the result of glx info03:10
morghanphoenixError: couldn't find RGB GLX visual03:11
morghanphoenixand that, what's wrong?03:11
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peteThanks again Linux_Galore... I have some reading to do...03:12
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morghanphoenixis there a better channel to ask graphics questions in?03:13
cloakableDammit, k3b zombied.03:14
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cloakableDammit, and it's blocking the normal k3b from starting up.03:15
Ace2016 is plf still active? and can someone point me to a sources list with a working repo url please, ackages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ doesn't work03:17
Ace2016what can i use instead of plf?03:17
noiesmoAce2016, what package are you after03:18
JucatoAce2016: what particular package are you looking for in PLF?03:18
Jucatolol03:18
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noiesmolol03:18
Ace2016i don't know i just want to look and see whats there03:18
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JucatoI guess you can look around their site to see what packages they have before adding the repo03:19
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noiesmoJucato, I don't think they support ubuntu anymore there's nothing to see unfortunatly03:19
jerpi don't think plf is doing business03:20
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Jucatonoiesmo: seems like it, although their last news headline sort of says that Ubuntu is supported again...but maybe that's months old...03:21
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freeridehello?03:23
crimsungoodbye?03:24
freerideno, hello ;-)03:24
freeridewho's 'ere03:24
freerideI need sum elp :-/03:24
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freeridebesides psychological I mean03:25
Ace2016well if you ask someone might help03:25
freerideok, I'll try that03:25
freeridemy screen saver quit working03:25
freeridethats the question03:25
freeridein statement format03:25
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freeridekubuntu on celeron 1ghz w/ 512 ram03:25
freerideany ideas?03:26
Ace2016so it just doesn't come up? have you tried different screensavers? i'm guessing this is a kde screensaver, is it opengl based? tried something simple like the clock?03:26
elknof3hi everybody03:26
jerpthe best screensaver is the power switch, it never fails its duty03:26
Ace2016Hi03:26
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Ace2016jerp: on the monitor03:26
elknof3im having a problem when i try to install firefox03:27
freerideI had fireworks working fine and then it just up and quit, clock doesnt work either, tried that03:27
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freeridewhere is powerswitch? I'll try that one03:28
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jerpfreeride, you been through the 'System Settings' ?03:28
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freeridewait, was that a joke? :-/03:28
freeridenot funny :-p03:28
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cloakableWell, the dvd rip/transcode starts :P03:29
freeride_well, hmm, anyone?03:31
jerpjimmy with your settings in ........ System Settings/Desktop/Screensaver03:31
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freeride_jimmy with them?03:32
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freeride_is that a technical term?03:32
jerpeither that  or tinker03:32
freeride_hmm, I'm not educated with tinkering03:33
freeride_I'm good at clicking though03:33
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morghanphoenixIs there a channel for WINE help?03:33
jerpwell get in there and go click, click, click03:33
crimsunmorghanphoenix: #winehq?03:34
jerpthere are some that might be checked but aren't loaded..... best you can do is uncheck them03:34
morghanphoenixthar she be03:34
morghanphoenixthanks03:34
freeride_yeah, I did a lot of clicking03:34
freeride_nothing seems to help03:34
jerpuse the test button to see if the come up and if they don't uncheck them03:35
jerpsee if they...03:35
freeride_I'm not seeing any check boxes, the test works for all of the screensavers though03:36
jerpare you on dapper or edgy?03:36
freeride_good question, dapper I think,  how do I check that?03:37
jerptest is right next to setup03:37
freeride_I'm 90% sure it's dapper, I downloaded this a while back03:37
cloakableDoes anyone here rip with k3b 1.0rc2?03:38
jerphighlight the screensaver and then hit test03:38
freeride_yeah03:38
freeride_I did that03:38
freeride_test works03:38
freeride_they all work in the test03:38
freeride_but they dont kick in like they are supposed too03:38
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freeride_it WAS working03:38
freeride_and it quit03:38
freeride_I had fireworks running03:38
freeride_it worked just fine03:38
freeride_now boom, it's borked03:39
jerpone must be tweaked with a bug03:39
freeride_hmm, that sounds bad, what can I do03:39
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jerpfind which one it is and uncheck it if you don't want to email the author for assistance03:40
freeride_uncheck? I'm not seeing any check boxes03:41
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freeride_I just highlight and click apply03:41
freeride_or test03:41
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Daisuke_Idoany ideas as to why /dev/dsp would be locked when starting unreal tournament 2004?  nothing that i can see is using it, so i'm a little bit lost.03:43
jerpok, I'm thinking that the checking and unchecking is incorporated with a particular theme?03:43
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freeride_possibly03:45
jerpmaybe not :\03:45
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freeride_I'm using lipstik03:46
Ace2016as a theme or on your lips?03:46
Jucato...03:46
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freeride_both :-p03:46
freeride_kidding, it's my widget style?03:46
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jerpI just hope the screensaver you're upset at losing isn't fuzzyflakes03:47
freeride_under appearance style03:47
freeride_lol, idk what fuzzy flakes is but it sounds like a breakfast cereal03:47
Ace2016i was just wondering, he could have just left the c out by mistake03:47
jerpclick it and take a look at it03:48
freeride_I dont have it in my list03:49
jerpI don't know how it got into mine03:49
jerpit reminds me of pepto bismol03:49
freeride_I'd settle for anything right now, corn flakes if it has a screen saver03:49
jerpyou always click apply in the bottom right corner?03:50
freeride_yeah03:50
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jerpyou need someone else who can give you a code or something to kick the code awake03:52
freeride_hmm...03:52
freeride_maybe I should just kick this machine awake03:52
freeride_or off a cliff03:52
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soulrider!ntfs03:58
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse03:58
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whoremongeranyone good with ndiswrapper?04:05
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menace!adeptcrashfix04:08
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'04:08
Daisuke_Idoah, i managed to get ut2k4 working04:08
Daisuke_Idonot a pleasant hack to get things working, but it did the job: 'killall arts' unlocked /dev/dsp to give me sound.04:09
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whoremongeri will pay someone to solve this ndiswrapper issue for me04:10
whoremongeri'm at my wits end04:10
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Daisuke_Idowhat's the issue?04:10
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whoremongerok, i'm installing a wireless card04:10
Daisuke_Idoi can't promise i can help, but i can nod and smile04:10
pianoboy3333What's the default kde icon set?04:10
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Daisuke_Idookay04:11
whoremongeri've used ndiswrapper -i to load the driver, which it does04:11
Daisuke_Idok04:11
whoremongerthen ndiswrapper -l, and it lists it correctly04:11
Daisuke_Idoso far so good04:11
whoremongerthen i do ndiswrapper -m as per a tutorial, and it throws- http://pastebin.com/84687304:11
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Daisuke_Idohmm04:13
Daisuke_Idojust looking at it, and i'm probably way off here (anyone that knows, feel free to correct me), it looks like you're using a unified driver (for a usb wifi dongle, and looks like two different pci cards)04:14
Daisuke_Idohow to fix that, i have no clue.04:14
whoremongerit's a dell 1390 built in in this lappy04:14
Daisuke_Idodo you know what the chipset is?04:14
whoremonger431104:15
Daisuke_Idoor is that it04:15
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whoremongerbroadcom 431104:15
whoremongeri've read just about every tutorial out there for it04:16
Daisuke_Idohmm04:16
whoremongeri even switch distros to kanotix and gave it a shot04:16
Daisuke_Idothe 4311 is somewhat supported natively04:17
whoremongeri don't get a wlan of any sort listed when i do iwconfig04:17
whoremongeri still haven't accomplished that yet04:17
Daisuke_Idoum...04:18
Daisuke_Idodo you speak german?04:18
whoremongernein04:18
Daisuke_Idohmm04:18
whoremongerlol04:18
Daisuke_Idothat won't help much then04:18
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Daisuke_Idothe *only* hit i got for your exact issue04:19
Daisuke_Idohttp://kanotix.com/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-19149.html04:19
whoremongersomeone just told me to do some tail something command04:21
whoremongerand it gave me-04:21
whoremongerDec 28 21:38:01 KanotixBox loadndisdriver: loadndisdriver: load_driver(361): couldn't load driver bcmwl504:21
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Daisuke_Idotail dmesg?04:28
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Daisuke_Idoyeah, it's not loading the driver for some reason (thank you captain obvious!)04:29
Daisuke_Idoi'm not too good with ndiswrapper myself, but i figured i could try to help :\04:29
Daisuke_Idosorry i can't give better advice04:29
whoremongersomeone told me to delete all of the configuration files for ndiswrapper04:29
whoremongeri'm trying to find where they are now04:29
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Daisuke_Idoum, i just saw that04:30
Daisuke_Idolet me look04:30
Daisuke_Idodid you blacklist the native support for the carD?04:31
whoremongeryeah, in the modsomething.d file04:32
whoremongeror some such04:32
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whoremongerblacklist bcm43xx i think was the command04:32
whoremongeror entry04:32
Daisuke_Idohttp://wiki.waningsun.net/index.php?title=Dell_E1405_%26_Linux_HOWTO04:32
Daisuke_Idothat one seems solid04:32
Daisuke_Idobut yes04:32
whoremongerlol, i believe that is the first one i ever tried04:34
whoremongerbut let me try it once more, for good measure04:34
whoremongerthank you daisuke04:34
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LBB_hi there!04:38
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Daisuke_Idoyou're welcome, and good luck04:41
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Daisuke_Idothis is nice.  not like other linux channels i've visited, where the only helpful advice is "read the man pages" and "go back to windows, noob!"04:41
familyIf this is the wrong place, please let me know.  I use Fedora Core 5 at work; I've heard that kubuntu is much better, and am trying to set it up at home.  Er, I obviously don't know how to use the package manager correctly, and am finding it strange after using yum.  Is there someone who might be able to take a few minutes and walk me through a couple of things.04:42
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soulriderindeed Daisuke_Ido04:43
soulriderbut there snot many people on at th emoment04:43
soulriderfamily: ill help you as mucha s i can04:43
familyThank you very much, soul-rider.  My basic concerns is that I'm screwing up the repositories and installation procedure.04:44
Daisuke_Idoinstallation procedure as far as...04:44
soulridercould you please hold 5 minutes? theres somehting i need to do first04:44
familyOK, soulrider.  Twill give me some time to get thoughts together.04:45
Daisuke_Idofamily: i can help until soulrider gets back if you need it04:45
familyI've gone to system and opened adept; then gone to the manage repositories view.  Thanks, Daisuke_ido.04:46
familyI've enabled the us.archive.ubunut.com/ubuntu universe and multiverse for deb & deb-src.  Do I need to do the same for the security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lines?04:47
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Daisuke_Idoi can't see why not04:48
familyOK, I'll do that, and then see if it helps.04:49
Daisuke_Idoit's the security updates...  i think that was actually enabled already for me04:49
Daisuke_Idoi know it's enabled now...04:49
familyThanks, Daisuke_Ido (may I just type DI, or do you prefer the whole thing?).04:50
Daisuke_Idoeither way04:50
Daisuke_IdoDI's certainly shorter04:50
soulriderjust type dai and press tab04:51
familyI use emacs a lot at work, and would like to install it.  (My apologies if you're a vi person.)  When I go to the emacs line on the Adept Manager and "Request Install", it comes back in the Requested column with "BREAK (install)".  Sorry, but that doesn't mean much to me.04:51
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Daisuke_Idothat is odd.04:52
Daisuke_Idothat i haven't seen before.04:52
soulriderfamily: i suggets you first update the lists04:52
soulriderthen do a dist upgrade04:52
soulriderand then try to install04:52
Daisuke_Idoof course, even on kubuntu, i usually use synaptic04:53
soulrideradept is the GUI for apt-get04:53
soulriderid rather use the console04:53
soulriderand aptitude seems to be better than adept/apt-get04:53
Daisuke_Idoaptitude04:53
soulriderfamily: do "sudo aptitude update" then do "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"04:53
soulriderthat will leave your system up-to date04:54
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familySoulrider & DI, I'm open to anything.  I use the CLI for yum, and am quite happy.  I thought I'd done the update of databases; I'm doing the sudo aptitude stuff now04:54
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soulridergreat04:55
soulriderim gonna see if i can install emacs04:55
soulrideri actually have no idea what its for :P04:55
familyIt said all is copasetic (0 packages upgraded.)     :-)04:55
soulriderdid you do update first?04:56
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familyYes, update first.   (I'd done that about an hour ago using The Adept Manager or something)04:56
soulriderwell04:57
Daisuke_Idohmm04:57
familyI'm looking at the man page on aptitude right now.04:57
soulrideryou enabled repositories now04:57
soulriderso you should do it again04:57
soulriderwhen you enable a repository its a good idea to do an update, so you get the lists for the new repo04:57
familyAh, OK.  Yes, I did it again using sudo aptitude update , etc., as you said above.04:57
soulriderok04:58
soulridernow try04:58
soulridersudo aptitude install emacs04:58
soulrideron some very rare ocasions, adept will refuse to install something04:58
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knappHi. I created a Video DVD using Devede (on the PAL setting) and then burned it to disk using k3b. When I put it in the DVD player it says "Cannot play DVD due to area regieon restriction" or something like that. Do I need to encode it again in NTSC?04:59
familyProblem:  unmet dependencies:  emacs21-nox, depends on emacs21-bin-common (virtual package).05:00
soulriderknapp: its probably region locked05:00
soulrideryour DVD player wont be able to open it05:00
knappIt's a Sony. I didn't think Sonys had that?05:00
soulriderfamily: are you just doing sudo aptitude install emacs or something else ?05:00
soulridersony  is evil....05:01
familyBTW, I presume that aptitude search is the command to, say, search for all emacs packages.05:01
knappMaybe a Xbox360 would play it?05:01
soulriderdont know05:01
familySoulrider:  at present, just sudo aptitude install emacs05:01
knappok well thanks for your help soulrider05:01
soulrideruhm, let me look into it family05:01
familyThanks, soulrider.05:01
soulriderknapp: try and get some info on regions on DVDs from wikipedia05:01
soulriderit will explain the problem better than i will be able to05:02
soulridersome DVDs can only play on some parts of the world05:02
soulriderfamily: its installing for me, the only thing i can think of is that maybe you didnt quite enable your repos well05:03
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soulriderif you want i can give you my repo list which is probably more complete05:03
knappyeah, im semi-familiar with that stuff. Is there a way I can encode it to a specific regieon (North America) ?05:03
soulriderand you will find some updates there05:03
soulriderfor open office that are not on the official repos05:03
soulriderknapp: you will want region 1 then05:03
soulrideri havnt used that program so i cant tell you, sorry :(05:04
soulriderthere might be a way to remove the region code completelly from the DVD though05:04
familySoulrider (may I abbreviate it SR):  I'm open to additional repos05:04
soulriderfamily05:04
soulridertype sou and press tab05:04
soulrider!paste05:04
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:04
familysoulrider: neat!  tab completion of people on the channel!05:05
soulriderindeeed :)05:05
familyOK the pastebin came up with a "Paste something", but I think that I need to unpaste something.05:06
soulriderfamily, youre gonna need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list05:06
soulrideryou will need super cow powers for that :P05:06
soulriderthat was for me actually :P05:06
familysoulrider: I've opened it in nano05:07
soulriderhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39275/ see if you get a "make a correction" box where you can take the text from05:07
soulrideryou dont want to remove the numbers manually05:07
soulriderfamily: did you open nano with sudo ?05:07
familysoulrider: yes, with sudo05:07
soulridergreat!05:07
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familysoulrider: I hope you don't mind, but it'll take a few minutes to go through it, copy & paste, and ask you questions.  :-)   I suspect that I won't need all the edgy eft stuff, as I'm using 6.06    Do I just change edgy to dapper?05:09
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soulriderohhh05:09
soulriderbetter yet05:09
familysoulrider: BTW, I'm open to upgrading to 6.1005:09
soulrider!easysource05:10
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:10
soulriderthat will make a repository list for you :)05:10
familysoulrider: I'm confused again.  Source-o-matic (ubotu?)05:10
soulriderubotu: is a bot, he slike the channel slave05:11
soulridergo to that site05:11
soulriderand you can compile your repo list :)05:11
soulriderso you know you wont screw anything up05:11
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familysoulrider: You are *very* optimistic.  We ancient flatti can screw up most anything.05:13
familySome questions05:13
soulriderlol, dont worry05:13
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knivageHi :005:14
familysoulrider: 1. My main concern is getting a stable system that my family can use for e.g., homework, mp3 players (wife's Creative Zen V), and the like.05:14
knivage*:)05:14
soulriderok05:14
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soulriderfamily: unless they know how to sudo, they wont screw anything up :P05:15
soulriderthats the wonders of linux :P05:15
familysoulrider: 1a Is 6.06 (dapper) fine, or should I go ahead and update to edgy----and if so, how05:15
Daisuke_Idoafter a few months, i'm trying to figure out how any music fan can live without amarok05:15
soulrideri think that yes, you should upgrade05:15
soulriderlol Daisuke_Ido05:15
soulriderfamilty, i did a clean install05:15
soulriderim not into upgrading05:15
soulriderbut lets ask the wonderful bot, maybe he knows how to upgrade05:16
soulrider!upgrade05:16
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)05:16
familysoulrider & DI:  I use amarok at work, but it's the family who are into multimedia.05:16
familysoulrider: I gather that <shriedk> work causes the bot to respond?05:16
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soulrider<shriedk> ?05:17
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family<shriek> == !05:17
soulriderahh yes05:17
soulrideryou can ask him by doing !05:17
soulriderhes a smart guy :P05:17
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soulriderfamily: you might want to print https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade and follow the upgrade05:18
soulrideralthough i think printing is evil05:18
familysoulrider: very good.05:19
terran4000Hello, was just wondering ... how can I change the mod1 modifier mapping to include ALT_R also?05:19
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soulriderterran4000: no idea :(05:19
familysoulrider: Hey, I spent some quality time with my computer today getting it to print under 6.0605:19
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soulriderlol05:19
soulrideri never printed anything with ym computer05:19
soulriderdont like killing trees =/05:19
terran4000hmm >_>05:19
max_where do i turn off the drop shadows on windows05:19
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soulriderterran4000: maybe look in the wiki or http://ubuntuforums.org05:20
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LBBhi all!05:20
familysoulrider: Alas, my kids' teachers like things on paper.05:20
terran4000<sigh> only if they made these things easier ...05:20
familysoulrider: As does my wife when cooking.  I must admit that I've quite a fondness for holding a book05:20
familyand reading05:21
soulridermax_: go to system settings > window behaviour05:21
soulriderim assuming youa ctivated it there05:21
soulriderwell, i dont like printing when its not absolutely needed05:21
soulriderunless you have a computer screen in your kitchen its fine05:21
soulriderbut osme people, just print such useless stuff05:22
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soulriderand they dont save paper05:22
max_where is the drop shadow at in there?05:22
soulridermax_: in translucency tab05:22
soulriderim guessing you enabled it there05:22
max_thats disabled05:22
soulrideruhm05:22
Daisuke_Idohey, where do i turn *on* drop shadows...05:22
soulrideri didnt know it could be enabled anywhere else05:23
soulriderohh05:23
soulridersorry05:23
soulrideri thought it said OFF05:23
Daisuke_Idono no05:23
soulriderto turn them on, activate where it sais translucency and shadows05:23
Daisuke_Idohe's asking about turning it off05:23
Daisuke_Idoi'm asking about turning them on :D05:23
soulridermax_: youre not using beryl are you ?05:23
familysoulrider: So, I'll follow the following steps.  1) do the update; 2) update repositiories; 3) see if I can figure things out on my own; 4) come back for help!  :-)     Well, at least trees are quite a renewable (sustainable) resource when used for paper, but that's no excuse for being wasteful.05:24
soulriderDaisuke_Ido: go to where i told max05:24
soulriderfamily: maybe its better to do a clean install ?05:24
soulriderit depends on you though05:24
Daisuke_Idodone that, but i get no translucency though05:24
max_yes, im usin beryl05:24
soulrideri allways feel my system will be fresher05:24
soulridermax_: its in the beryl settings, somewhere05:24
max_thats what i thought05:25
soulriderDaisuke_Ido: you might need to restart X05:25
max_but they are telling me ts kde05:25
soulridermax_: it must be beryl05:25
soulriderthe KDE shadows are disabled05:25
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soulriderso it has to be beryl05:25
soulridershadows are pretty though, why turn them off? :P05:25
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familysoulrider: If I can do the upgrade, I'd prefer that.   The directions seem straightforward.  The sed command is a bit different than I use (s/bad/good/g ---- I don't remember the g, and I'm not familiar with the xargs command, but otherwise . . . .05:27
soulriderwell05:27
soulridercopying and pasting should do it :P05:27
soulriderfamily: if you have any issues just contact me05:28
soulrideri try to be on here as much as possible05:28
soulriderbut im on msn/aim/yahoo too05:28
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TheDebuggeranyone tried that beryl decoration manager for KDE? ( Like emerald )?05:30
familysoulrider: Thanks much for your help.  we'll see what happens.05:30
soulriderTheDebugger: ive used it with beryl05:30
TheDebuggerAnd?05:31
soulridergood luck family!05:31
soulriderits ok05:31
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TheDebuggeremerald is better?05:31
soulriderbut its meant to eb used with beryl05:31
soulridernot alone05:31
Daisuke_Idooooh05:31
familysoulrider: Let me ask another question.  The time-stamps I see are now ca. 14:31.  I'm in MST (~21:31.  Where is the IRC?05:31
Daisuke_Idoit's pretty05:31
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familyDaisuke_Ido: Thank you, too, for your help.05:31
soulriderfamily: it must be your computer05:31
soulrideri see05:31
Daisuke_Idoyou're welcome05:31
soulrider02:30 :P05:31
Daisuke_Idoand soulrider, thanks, restarting X made all the difference05:32
TheDebuggerI think it's "Aquamarine"05:32
TheDebuggerAnyway, i'll try it at home05:32
soulriderTheDebugger: i dont think you can use emerald without beryl05:32
soulriderbut im probably wrong05:32
TheDebuggerI think you're right05:33
familysoulrider: Yes, I see that my computer is showing 14:31 in the panel clock.  Ach, something else to investigate.  :-(05:33
TheDebuggerI'm just saying that emerald is not the only decorator for beryl05:33
soulriderlol05:33
soulriderahh05:33
soulrideri had no idea there were others05:33
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willAlright, I just made the switch from SuSE to Kubuntu.  Let's just hope it actually lets me update my video drivers for once...05:34
will!ati > will05:34
christopherman this is so annoying, I just installed kubuntu and it wont boot unless I do it in recovery mode then use startx05:34
soulriderwill: i doubt you will have problems05:34
christopherit used to work on this machine too05:34
TheDebuggerchristopher: What is the error?05:34
soulrideri will be right back05:35
soulriderneed to restart X :P05:35
christopherTheDebugger: no error, just frezzes as the bar is going across05:35
christopherhow stable is 6.10 right now anyway?05:36
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soulrideryay05:36
soulrideri got some pretty looking shadows now :P05:36
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Daisuke_Idopretty stable from my perspective05:36
TheDebuggerchristopher: For me, it's nice05:36
Daisuke_Idosoulrider: they look nice05:36
soulriderindeed Daisuke_Ido05:36
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bLaZeD!restricted05:36
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:36
christopherTheDebugger, is there some way to see something other than the boot up bar to help me debug?05:37
TheDebuggerchristopher: perhaps you could check dmesg, not sure05:37
christophercan't check it unless I manage to boot05:38
willsoulrider: It's  made my Xserver not want to start before, and I don't know what to edit, Just change the driver back to "Vesa"? Don't know05:38
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soulriderwill: maybe edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?05:39
willsoulrider: Well, but what in that is what I meant.05:39
willsoulrider: Incase it locks me out05:39
soulrideri have an Nvidia card so i probably wont be of much help05:40
soulriderbut if you want to change the driver05:40
soulrideryou will need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:40
soulriderbut back it up before editing, just in case05:41
willsoulrider: No problem.  I think I know what locked me out anyway, It was probably I forgot to remove fglrx from restricted modules05:41
willsoulrider: So it couldn't find any drivers therefor error'd itself05:41
soulriderok05:41
soulriderwell, good luck anyways!05:41
willsoulrider: Thanks : )05:42
soulriderim going to bed05:46
soulridersee you all!05:46
Daisuke_Idohave a good night and thanks for the tips05:46
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soulrider_awaysee ya!! ^^05:46
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bLaZeD!iso05:49
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning.05:49
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BeLinuxi start Adept, i type in my root password when it asks me to (it accepts it), and after that i get the message that the package database is read only and that i must be root to install them...05:50
BeLinuxanyone knowsss why05:50
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smaggardtry restarting maybe, iunno05:52
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Steven_M_hi all05:53
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evoxHello?06:00
evoxIn Kubuntu is it possible for me to use my USB jump drive?06:01
evoxView and transfer files etc...06:01
crimsunyes.06:01
evoxWell how can I acess it?06:01
crimsunplug in it.06:01
evoxBecause its plugged in..06:01
crimsunplug it in, rather.06:01
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evoxBut Nothings happing06:02
crimsunwas it cleanly unmounted last time?06:02
crimsunit won't automount successfully if it wasn't.06:02
evoxThis is the first time its been plugged in to Linux06:02
evoxok now for somereason it decided to show up06:02
crimsunpaste the output from ``dmesg |tail -20'' onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:02
crimsunheh.06:03
evoxwtf06:03
evoxIt asked me what I wanted to do to manage it06:03
evoxI hit cancel06:03
evoxThen My tool bar dissappeared06:03
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evoxIf my memory serves correct dont I right click then hit command and type kicker?06:04
evoxOk anyway06:05
evoxNow.....I started Amarok....And Hit Install MP3 Capability06:05
evoxit says it was sucessfull06:05
evoxbut When I restart and play music...I hear nothing06:05
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evoxAnyone?06:07
praetorevox: try sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs06:07
crimsundo you hear any other system sounds?06:08
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evoxI hear the start up sound and etc06:08
evoxwhen I first turn the comp on06:08
evoxand those kind of things06:08
praetordo you hear sound when you log into kde?06:08
evoxyea06:09
praetorok, try install that package then06:09
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praetorim not sure how what amarok intalls through its own option, but i install said package and amarok plays mp3s fine afterwards06:09
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evoxevox@evox-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs06:12
evoxPassword:06:12
evoxReading package lists... Done06:12
evoxBuilding dependency tree06:12
evoxReading state information... Done06:12
evoxlibxine-extracodecs is already the newest version.06:12
evoxThats what it says06:12
praetorthats pretty strange06:12
praetordo you hear sound when you try to play an ogg with amarok?06:12
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evoxi dont have any oggs06:13
evoxAll I have are a few MP306:13
praetoramarok comes with 1 when you first install/start it06:13
praetorthe 'welcome to amarok' track06:13
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evoxIts not showing up06:13
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willI need help, I can't update my drivers without it not letting XServer start.  I'm on live CD now;  I'm about to re-install is there ANY WAY I could get to my XOrg.conf?06:15
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willI'm using a raden x700 and updating drivers from repositories using the ati binaries found in !ati06:16
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computeris there a tutorial on how to use autostart?06:19
willHow can I boot Kubuntu in console....  I reallly need to edit my xorg.conf or I can't use my computer I'm on th elive cd right now06:20
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smoothieshow do u mean06:21
smoothiesu want kubuntu in ur ms-dos console?06:21
smoothieso06:21
smoothiesdo u mean boot kubuntu into console mode?06:21
willsmoothies: lol... dos...  I mean I want it without my xserver running so I can modified my xorg.conf to let me turn on06:21
willyeah06:21
smoothiesyeah u can do alt-ctrl f1, then kill kde06:22
willat the login screen?06:22
smoothiesor can u not get into the login screen either06:22
smoothiesyes06:22
smoothiesat the login screen06:22
smoothiesif u just want to06:22
smoothiesedit xorg.conf, u don't have to kill kde06:22
willalt ctrl f1 *Repeates to self* Alright be back sooner or later06:22
smoothiesalso06:22
smoothiesalso06:22
will?06:22
smoothiesjust making sure u can get back, i was just gonna say f1 thru f6 are all konsole mode06:23
smoothiesf7 is gui mode again06:23
willk06:23
willbrb06:23
smoothiesor u can press xstart06:23
smoothiesor type startx i meant06:23
willstartx to launch xserver?06:23
Steven_M_Even with splash disabled the startup squence of edgy doesn't seem to be as detailed as brezzy's and dapper's was, is there anyway to make edgy's startup sequence more detailed?06:23
willno space?06:23
willl06:23
will*k06:23
smoothiesyes06:23
willbrb06:24
smoothiesbye06:24
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smoothiesi meant see u in a bit06:24
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fierceHey all.. i've got a problem I cant solve.  I am running a process but want to log out and keep it running, but I forgot to screen it.  How can I transfer this to a screen?  I tried to 'CTRL+Z' to suspend it, then run screen, then 'fg' inside of screen but it says no process found.. How can I do this :(06:29
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Linux_Galorehmm I cant seem to get kubuntu to read the new resolution settings on xorg.conf06:30
Linux_Galorekrandrtray keep using the old settings06:31
Daisuke_Idodid you restart X?06:31
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Linux_GaloreDaisuke_Ido: that and reboot06:32
Daisuke_Idohrmm06:32
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Linux_GaloreDaisuke_Ido: same setup on Mnadriva worked fine when I added the extra resolution06:32
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Linux_GaloreDaisuke_Ido: showed up in kranr straight away06:32
Linux_Galorekrandr*06:33
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Linux_Galorealso the kde monitor tool isnt working06:33
Daisuke_Idothat's an issue i've yet to run into06:33
Daisuke_Idoi just added the proper resolutions to xorg.conf and restarted x, and they were immediately available06:34
Linux_GaloreI get "Module Monitor and Display cant be loaded"06:34
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Linux_Galorewonder what package thats from06:35
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hamiiiI just installed Kubuntu. I set a root passwd. Then su visudo and added my user name to the file. In groups I'm listed as admin. I was able to get add remove programs to run once. Now I get conversation with sudo failed?06:36
Daisuke_Idowhy would you need to set a root password?06:36
flaccidDaisuke_Ido: a binary that has to run interactive and asks for root password06:37
Daisuke_Idoas in...  a package manager or something?06:37
hamiiiBecause I'm used to dropping to a shell, switching to root and taking care of things.06:37
Daisuke_Idoyou should just be able to use your own password06:38
flaccidyou are using your own password for sudo?06:38
Daisuke_Idothat's the way it's set up.06:38
hamiiiYes06:38
flaccidhave a look at syslog06:38
hamiiiYes I am using my own pass for sudo not the root pass06:38
Daisuke_Idoto eliminate the need to even have a root password set06:38
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hamiiiSyslog Can't open default user face06:41
hamiiiDefualt passkey ....06:41
flaccidgoogle that hamii06:41
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hamiiigoogle default user face?06:46
flaccidgoogle the error as per syslog06:46
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willls06:49
willOops, though I was in konsole for a sec there.  Does anyone here use Kubuntu with a ATi radeon card (Maybe x700?) and has updated drivers working?06:50
flaccidwill: i use that but its a radeon 960006:50
willflaccid: Are you on Edgy?06:51
flaccidyep06:51
willflaccid: Did you ever run into any trouble with installing the ati binary drivers locking you out of your desktop and not letting Xserver work properly?06:51
flacciddon't think so06:51
flaccidcheck your X log06:51
plutoCan someone please tell me the ubuntu equivilant of this directory?  /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input06:51
willTo late, just started to re-install.  I'm debating using vesa drivers =(06:52
flaccidtoo late indeed06:53
flaccidvesa is crap06:53
crimsunpluto: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input06:53
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crimsunpluto: note that we use the modular X.Org scheme.06:53
willflaccid: I don't have much choice.  I can't install drivers06:53
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flaccid!ati06:54
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:54
juanare there any good guides to understanding xorg?06:54
flacciddid you read that will?06:54
plutocrimsun: will that affect the driver installation I'm doing?06:54
crimsunpluto: no idea; you haven't given any additional details.06:54
willflaccid: Yep, I followed it word by word on the repositories version.  It just locked me out, it said I could vim my xorg.conf but when I did it was still at vesa...06:55
plutoIt's a touchscreen driver for Xorg 606:55
flaccidwill change it then :)06:55
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crimsunpluto: ...6? No, that won't work.06:55
willflaccid: I'm gunna try to do the install from ati.com on my new install06:56
plutoWhy's that crimsun?06:56
crimsunpluto: because we don't use X.Org 6.x06:56
crimsunwe use 7.106:56
flaccidyou can do that yes. i think there are possible issues however doing the full prop. install06:56
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crimsunpluto: (probably ABI bump)06:56
willflaccid: Oh my.  there's conflicting opinions, In the repositories it says to makesure it's not blacklisted but it says it has to be blacklisted in the first one.  Quite confusing06:56
plutoWhat are we using then?06:56
Pirate-kingwhat is the best and easiest program to web cam with?06:57
flaccidwill: yes i came across other issues with ati. i had to do a lot of manual stuff and spent a lot of time. its things like this that make linux unusable to the mainstream populous06:57
willflaccid: It's sad to, It's really easy once it's set up.  My expieriences with all the open software have been great.06:58
willflaccid: I've06:58
willflaccid: **Ive preached linux to a couple people, only 1 of which still uses it06:58
flaccidtrust me will there at least 3 major bugs/issues outstanding in the installation of ati drivers for linux, particularly debian/ubuntu06:59
willflaccid: SuSE wasn't so easy either...06:59
willflaccid: I never got it working on SuSE06:59
willflaccid: I just used vesa06:59
flaccidyes i'm talking linux in general. windows is better in this case06:59
flaccidthats what is sad about it. linux still doesn't equal microsoft in a lot of stuff06:59
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willflaccid: They're different;  I know this is strange but you can't compare linux to windows justly.  They just excel in completly different areas07:00
flaccidyou can compare07:00
flaccidcomparison of desktop operating systems...07:00
willflaccid: But you wont get far.  Windows powerusers (The majority) will always get more attention from professional software developpers.07:00
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willBut if you're an OSS person (aye) linux is good07:01
flaccidthats right07:01
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willI'll be right back, Restarting off of my liveCD07:01
flaccidsee how windows is more 'stable' in this situation..07:01
willflaccid: Windows IS usable in all fairness07:01
flaccidor perhaps reliable is a better term07:01
willflaccid: Most people wont crash it that often just in word/IE07:01
willflaccid: Anyway, be right back07:02
flaccidits 2006. people should have to stuff around with installation of drivers on linux. have a loot at mac, its unix and doesn't install terminal by default..07:02
flaccidshould=shouldn't07:02
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flaccidanyway thats my sook on the progress or lack of progress of linux07:03
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willAlright I'm back.07:04
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flaccid!envy > fildo07:08
willWhy couldn't there be a envy for ati =(07:09
crimsunbecause you haven't made it.07:09
willPsh, I don't need a script IM ALL MAN.07:10
willo.007:10
crimsunyour whine above utterly negates that.07:10
willTough guys cry sometimes >>;07:11
willSpecially E-Toughguys.  Don't forget the internet factor07:11
crimsunyou're no chuck norris.07:11
willYou're just sayin that cause you're afraid of my roundhouse kick.  Anyway, to not derail from the channels purpose, I shall remain quiet untill a support question arrises.07:12
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flaccidi'm as smooth as vanilla ice :007:12
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willDayum dats smooth...?07:14
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Pirate-kinghow do you universe enable?07:16
Jucato!universe07:16
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:16
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flaccid!repos > Pirate-king07:17
flaccidoops07:17
flaccidmy lag07:17
Linux_GaloreYAY! resolution fixed07:17
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Linux_Galoredpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:18
Pirate-kingIm ther07:18
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Linux_Galoreso much for the graphical tools07:19
Linux_Galoreended using a command line tool07:19
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flaccidsux hey07:20
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Linux_Galorebugger got to disable compiz to get 3d back07:20
FHXHm. Could someone offer advice? I've been trying to install Kubuntu Edgy Eft using a burned CD (md5 checksums tally) but the Live desktop won't even load - it just brings me to an interface similar to command prompt's, that says: ubuntu@ubuntu. (Running on a 32-bit Pentium D duo-core dell, Windows OS)07:21
Pirate-kingwhat is the best and easiest program to web cam with?07:21
FHXI also tried installing using a Dapper-install-cd shipped to me by Kubuntu (which worked previously with my old computer) but the same problem occurs - only this time it freezes at the loading screen, where the status bar doesn't budge.07:22
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hamiii\join #peanut-lug07:24
fowlduck-FHX: use the alternative installer07:24
ubuntusudo619can somebody help me w/ installing GNOME under kubuntu??07:24
fowlduck-ubuntusudo619: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop07:25
fowlduck-done!07:25
ubuntusudo619k i'll go try that. thanx07:25
fowlduck-np :)07:25
willI need help, I need to do a sudo module-assistant prepare,update (As following the guide) but it says command not found...07:26
ubuntusudo619fowlduck: konsole says it can't find the package07:26
FHXfowlduck-: Hum..okay I'll try that. Thanks07:26
willI'm following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI07:27
crimsunwill: well, did you install module-assistant?07:27
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smoothieshas anyone used xfreecursors here?07:27
Daisuke_Idoi remember...  i got a shipment of hoary cds07:27
fowlduck-ubuntusudo619: wow, that's a new one for me, it can't fund ubuntu-desktop?07:27
FHXOh one more thing. I resized my main windows partition and now i've got two bits of unallocated space that aren't merged, is there a way to merge them together? Or can I merge them through the alternate install cd?07:27
willcrimsun: Never said to anywhere, And I checked repositories and it didn't show...07:27
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Daisuke_Idoand several of them were corrupt :(07:27
ubuntusudo619fowlduck: ttly07:28
fowlduck-ubuntusudo619: if you can paste the command you typed, the07:28
ubuntusudo619fowlduck: unless there's a Gnome 2.16 .DEB file i can install myself?07:29
fowlduck-ubuntusudo619: if you can pastebin the command you typed, the error you received, and a copy of your sources.list, we may be able to track down the issue07:29
ubuntusudo619k hold on07:29
fowlduck-ubuntusudo619: there are many many many dependencies that need to be satisfied which is easiest to do through your package manager07:29
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smoothiesis there a place where i can get window vista looking cursors, i don't know if they're called cursors, but i just like that circle'ish thing when stuff loads, sort of like the one that already comes with kubuntu, but that looks nicer =) thx all07:30
ubuntusudo619fowlduck::  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktopReading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency treeReading state information... DoneE: Couldn't find package ubuntu-desktop07:30
willWhat's the command to make my session run as root?07:30
unix_infidelsudo07:30
unix_infidel!sudo07:31
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:31
ubuntusudo619sudo halt lol07:31
willTo make the session, not just the command07:31
unix_infidelsudo su07:31
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ubuntusudo619sudo reboot07:31
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N3rg4rhey now!07:31
smoothieswhat's the differnce between bootsplash and splash screens07:31
fowlduck-ubuntusudo619: paste your sources list to www.pastebin.ca07:31
ubuntusudo619nothing07:31
flaccidubuntusudo619 is main repos enabled07:31
ubuntusudo619huh??07:32
flaccidubuntusudo619: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list07:33
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ubuntusudo619what folder would  /etc/apt/sources.list be under?07:35
abattoirubuntusudo619: /etc/apt07:36
N3rg4r/etc/apt/sources.list07:36
abattoirubuntusudo619: sources.list is the name of the file07:36
abattoirubuntusudo619: /etc/apt/sources.list is the full path to it07:36
N3rg4ri have a little problem m8s07:36
fowlduck-ubuntusudo619: type 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' into the console then paste it into www.pastebin.ca07:36
N3rg4revery time i start KDE i get an error07:37
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thelubixwhy does netbeans only work in KDE and not gnome07:37
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fowlduck-thelubix: i bet it works in both, it just uses qt07:38
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thelubixi dunno fowlduck- it only works in KDE for me07:39
N3rg4rthe file protocol dyed unexpectedly, the window title is Kdesktop07:39
N3rg4r*died07:39
fowlduck-thelubix: check its' dependencies and make sure they're installed.  Also, if it depends on services launched when KDE runs, those could be launched07:39
momalHow can I kill a process from command "kill -9 PID" I run that and it is still running help!!.. I need a way to kill it without rebooting.07:39
ubuntusudo619to fowlduck and flaccid: http://pastebin.ca/29526607:39
fowlduck-momal: kill -HUP pid07:40
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ubuntusudo619>:-(                http://pastebin.ca/29526607:40
intelikeyqustion; in the init scripts, what is the purpose of the colen in  ": exit 0" ?       doesn't "exit 0" do the same thing ?07:41
thelubixfowlduck-: i have both kde and gnome installed when i try to bring up Netbeans in GNOME the windows just is a blank gray07:41
ubuntusudo619i need help!!!!!!07:41
momalfowlduck: It didn't die :(07:41
ubuntusudo619i'm feeling very gnomeless07:42
fowlduck-thelubix: probably some service is depended upon by netbeans that launches when KDE launches.  Or it's something I know nothing about.  This is just what I've deduced from your descriptions07:42
N3rg4revery time i start KDE i get an error07:43
fowlduck-ubuntusudo619: you have duplicate sources in that file.  I don't know for certain, but that could mess with it.  Try sudo apt-get update07:43
N3rg4rthe file protocol died unexpectedly, the window title is Kdesktop07:43
thelubixKDE is bad i just use it07:43
intelikeyubuntusudo619   ahhhh why do lines 34 and 35 exist ?07:43
fowlduck-momal: -9 and -HUP should kill the process, I'm surprised it isn't.  I'm sorry I can't help more, that really should be working.07:44
thelubixKDE IS AWEFUL07:44
fowlduck-ha07:44
fowlduck-wrong channel to say that07:44
momalfowlduck-: yea -9 usually works for me but it just wont die >_<07:44
intelikeyyou really don't need or want repetes in there ubuntusudo61907:44
thelubixfowlduck-: i am really not a fan07:45
fowlduck-i would think it would cause breakage07:45
N3rg4rso anyone has any idea????07:45
thelubixgnome makes more sense to me07:45
N3rg4rplease??07:45
thelubixare kde people some how psycologically different from gnome people??07:45
thelubixwhat do you think?07:45
intelikeymomal pstree and see what the parent process is ?     what are you trying to kill.07:45
fowlduck-thelubix: sounds like a better discussion for the kde channel07:45
Jucatofowlduck-: not even. it's an -offtopic discussion07:46
fowlduck-Jucato: point taken07:46
N3rg4rthe file protocol died unexpectedly, the window title is Kdesktop07:46
N3rg4rplease??07:46
momalsplit... I was spliting a file but I ran it with & so i could close the ssh to server... but its kinda killing my server so I don't want to do it.07:46
momalintelikey: ^^07:46
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fowlduck-N3rg4r: your installation is broken in some way.  I don't know how to troubleshoot this, but I would check the logs in /var/logs and the check the output of dmesg07:47
thelubixoh so this is like one of those heavily modded on topic fests?07:47
momalinti --- SCManager ----- SCManger | and has split listed under that07:48
N3rg4rfowlduck-, it also appeared when i inserted the kubuntu live cd before installing07:48
N3rg4rit may be the cd??07:48
fowlduck-thelubix: well, people listen and chat in off-topic when they want to waste time, people come here to help and be helped, and discuss on-topic stuff07:48
fowlduck-N3rg4r: wow, that's really weird then, I'm not sure.07:49
intelikeymomal try killing it's parrent ?07:50
momalits just listed under scmanager so its parent is init -- scmanager07:50
N3rg4rfowlduck-, i was thinking in reinstalling KDE, how do i do that. Idont know how to move in the shell07:50
fowlduck-N3rg4r: reinstalling kde is an interesting proposition, i unfortunately don't know how to properly and safely do this.07:51
N3rg4rdamn07:51
N3rg4rthanx anyway07:51
N3rg4r;)07:51
momalapt-get remove kubuntu-desktop | apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ? | that should work07:51
N3rg4rok, gotta try it out07:52
fowlduck-wow, no07:52
N3rg4rno?07:52
fowlduck-that just removes the meta-package07:52
intelikeymomal removing kubuntu-desktop won't remove any files.  it's just a meta package07:52
fowlduck-which does NOTHING for you07:52
momalahh07:52
N3rg4rwell i was thinking in installing Gnome and work from there07:53
fowlduck-N3rg4r: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop07:53
momalintelikey: any ideas how to kill this process?07:53
intelikeysudo killall <name>07:53
momaltried already07:54
momali have tried | kill -9, kill -HUP, kill -KILL |07:54
momaland kill -1507:54
N3rg4rfowlduck-, i'll try that right now07:55
fowlduck-momal: reboot07:55
N3rg4rmomal, have you tried restarting x?07:55
momalthats my last option... i prefer to go through everything else07:55
momalnot running x07:55
N3rg4ror what ever its name is07:55
momaldedicated server07:55
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N3rg4ri thought contol+alt+ backspace could work07:56
momaldurely there has to be a way to kill a process >_<..07:56
momal14.78 load average >_<07:57
intelikeykill it's parent.07:57
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momalinitSCManagerSCManager07:57
momal     split07:57
momalthats what is has under pstree.. what is the parent ?07:58
fowlduck-terminate its parent with extreme prejudice07:58
intelikeysudo killall SCManager07:58
intelikey:)07:58
momalO_O07:58
momalthat would = a reboot07:58
momaleverything running is under that07:58
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intelikeyuse SCManager to kill it.07:59
intelikey!SCManager07:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about SCManager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:59
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intelikeymomal what is  SCManager  ?08:01
intelikey   SCManager provides a means for client and developers to create story cards and plan/monitor their progess. It software development planning to tool   to support Agile teams using story cards to capture and develop client requirements.  <<<  everything is running under that?08:02
momalyea.. its my friends server08:02
flaccid!squid08:03
ubotusquid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 576 kB, installed size 1524 kB08:03
flaccid!proxy08:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about proxy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:03
flaccidhmm no guide08:03
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momalits just if i reboot thre is a 90% chance its not going to come back then i have to call the datacenter in america (thats a fair bit from australia >_<)08:03
N3rg4rmomal, it  would be up by now, if you had rebooted08:03
N3rg4roh, forget it08:03
momalumm.. its not the time it takes to reboot its on the chacne it doesn't come back08:03
momallol08:04
intelikeymomal can you tell me what "SCManager"  is on that box.   cause i still think you just need to  sudo killall SCManager08:06
momalO_o... it died08:06
momalsplit just dispeared08:06
intelikeyi guess it finished ?08:07
N3rg4rlol08:07
N3rg4rs#it happens08:07
momalmy files are gone as well.. the ones it was spliting into >_< lol.. oh well i'll just download the file now instead of spliting it08:07
intelikeymomal is   SCManager   still in the process table ?08:08
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momalumm im pretty sure scmanager is so he can start/stop processes easier... but scmanager wont even run for me lol08:08
momalyea08:08
intelikeywell the description i found on it doesn't look like it would be usefull for that....   maybe there is another   "SCManager"   ?08:09
momalMight be :S08:10
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momalyou can't download more then 2 gb under ftp O_o... since when08:11
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N3rg4rmomal, split the file08:12
momallol!08:12
N3rg4rO.o08:12
momalhave anther method then using split?08:12
intelikeymomal dd08:13
momalI ahve never used dd... how might I go about it ?08:14
matthew_momal, dd if /path/to/file/to/be/copied of /path/to/new/copy/of/file08:15
matthew_momal, dd is not nicknamed data destroyer for nothing...if you mix up the if and of, you could write big blank spots to your harddrive.08:16
momalO_O08:16
matthew_yeah, be careful.08:16
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matthew_if==input file (ie, what file dd copies FROM) and of==output file (ie. what file dd copies TO)08:17
momal... how is that going to help me split file ?08:17
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matthew_momal, I'm not sure.08:18
matthew_lol08:18
intelikeysomething on the order of # N=1 ;while dd if=<infile> of=<outfile$N> bs=1073741824 count=1 skip=$(($N - 1)) ;do N=$(($N + 1)) ;done08:18
matthew_momal, dd does a disc copy, bit for bit.08:19
matthew_momal, either way, it's pretty sketch...08:19
fowlduck-it CAN do a disc copy08:19
momal... im sure there is a easier way to download a 4gb file then that :S08:19
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intelikeythat would make a series of 1g files   outfile1 outfile2 ...  from infile     but the <> marks are there only to show that you need to translate <infile> <outfile>  respectively08:20
momaland how do i get it back together again ?08:20
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superjoeintelikey I messed up packages when using automatix java.  I can't open my package managers. any idea how to fix this08:22
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intelikeysame process in reverse.    or just # for Q in outfile* ;do cat $Q >> restoredname ;done        but that's not carefull to make sure it's in the right order.... should do a echo outfile*  first to make sure.   ^momal08:22
superjoeintelikey, was that answer for me cause that was way over my head?08:24
momallol no it was to me :p08:24
intelikeysuperjoe something like sudo apt-get install -f || dpkg-reconfigure -a08:24
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N3rg4rhey, new error!!!08:26
intelikeyor actually -a may be excessive...08:26
N3rg4ri need the url for pasting stuff!!!08:26
intelikeyN3rg4r it's in the topic08:26
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intelikey/topic08:27
superjoeI forgot, how do I run as root or superuser?08:27
matthew_!pastebin | N3rg4r08:27
ubotuN3rg4r: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:27
N3rg4rthanx08:27
intelikeysuperjoe sudo -i08:27
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Xbehaveer what does dpkg-reconfigure -a do? does it reconfigure all apps?08:28
intelikeyXbehave not all but some.08:29
N3rg4rfowlduck-, u there??08:29
fowlduck-N3rg4r: I am, but I'm taking care of something right now, what's up?08:30
Xbehaveis there a command to reconfigure most, i jsut realised i broke my debconf a while ago so may have alot of broken programs08:30
N3rg4ri was installing gnome and then http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39291/ showed up08:30
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N3rg4rthen it continued08:31
intelikeyXbehave dpkg --configure -a    should get anything that isn't configured yet.08:31
N3rg4rfowlduck-, if its nothing important i can talk to u later08:31
fowlduck-N3rg4r: did the installation of gnome fail?08:32
fowlduck-N3rg4r: I used to get the same error, it's because of some junk in the xorg.conf that shouldn't be there, but is harmless to leave in.08:33
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fowlduck-N3rg4r: so no worries.  I just thought of another way to test netbeans, that was you, right?08:33
intelikeyXbehave # sudo apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install $(dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' '\n' | sort -u)08:34
N3rg4rno08:34
N3rg4rthanx fowlduck-08:34
Xbehavethx08:35
fowlduck-thelubix: hey, try running netbeans from a terminal from within gnome, then at least you'll see what errors it outputs08:35
N3rg4rit was thelubix08:35
fowlduck-yeah, just scrolled up myself :)08:35
N3rg4r=_=08:35
superjoeintelikey im stuck in configuring console setup.  There is just <ok> at the bottom.  What do I do to continue?08:35
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intelikeysuperjoe hmmmm ???    hit  y ?08:36
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intelikeyfowlduck- don't say the M$ word ...08:37
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fowlduck-heh, no, osx08:37
N3rg4rwhy?08:38
fowlduck-i'd be on linux still if i wasn't on a mac08:38
intelikeyok.  just didn't want to have to duck hunting.....08:38
N3rg4ri run M$08:38
fowlduck-i'll have the roast duck with the mango salsa08:38
intelikey:)08:38
N3rg4ri dual boot08:38
fowlduck-i run microsoft windows on my gaming rig and in a virtual machine on my laptop for development in visual studio08:39
fowlduck-necessary evil :/08:39
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superjoeintelikey,  sorry "y" does nothing.  can I close the terminal or will that mess things up worse?08:39
intelikeysuperjoe  try ^C     that's control C08:40
N3rg4rwell i'm preparing to erase the ms partition but still can't work out the video card outputs08:40
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EightiesK!modem08:41
intelikeyN3rg4r hehhe i erased all my partitions a long time ago.08:41
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto08:41
superjoeinelilkey, still no result08:41
superjoeintelikey its asking to choose vga, terminus, but no spot to choose.08:42
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intelikeysuperjoe hmmm   up arrow     down arrow  enter ?08:43
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N3rg4ri have a log way to go before understanding linux the way i undertand MS08:43
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superjoeguess I had to highlight ok, thought I did that already, thanks.08:44
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superjoeintelikey, I'm new to linux, but did successfully set up xp kubuntu dual boot on hp laptop.08:49
intelikeysuperjoe cool08:50
intelikeyBelarus ?08:51
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N3rg4ri really had a bad time installing my Wifi card08:51
superjoeautomatix  appeared to have frozen up during java install.  I think I closed the terminal and messed up the package.08:51
N3rg4ri remember when i first intslled ubuntu08:51
superjoei'm still stabbing in the dark but its starting to make sense08:52
superjoethis 'dpkg-reconfigure -a' has a lot of choices, I'm just hitting all the default choices.08:53
intelikeysuperjoe yeah.  you may need to enable verbose   or use a koncole to install java    it askes for confirmation on a liscens agreement.08:54
N3rg4rat first i tried installing debian, never got a desktop running08:54
intelikey!java | superjoe08:54
ubotusuperjoe: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository08:54
flaccidatm i'm thinking freebsd is way more stable than ubuntu :)08:54
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superjoethanks intelikey and uboto08:55
intelikey!bot | superjoe08:55
ubotusuperjoe: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:55
Jucatoubotu: thanks08:55
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)08:55
Jucatointelikey: ^^^08:55
intelikey!botsnack08:56
ubotuYum!08:56
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intelikeyi'm getting pounded pretty heavily   port scanning  and such    hehhe recon i should turn ssh on so they'll have some thing to play with ?08:57
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superjoeintelikey, thanks08:58
intelikeythere me go.08:58
intelikeysuperjoe np.08:59
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Xbehavewhats the kde graphical sudo command?09:01
intelikeykdesu09:01
matthew_Xbehave, kdesu09:01
Xbehavethx09:01
matthew_intelikey ftw09:01
superjoeintelikey,this dpkg-reconfigure -a takes forever.  I think it would be quicker to reinstall ubuntu09:02
intelikeyftw ?09:02
matthew_for the win...lol09:02
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matthew_superjoe, did you do dpkg-reconfigure -a? I've always done sudo dpkg --configure -a09:02
intelikeysuperjoe yeah  sorry i got you into that.   i mentioned in the very next line that using  -a might be excessive   kinda wanting to say lets try something shorter   but....09:04
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N3rg4rthis is taking forever09:05
superjoesorry, didn't catch that, np I appreciate your help.09:05
Xbehavesuperjoe it cant take that long i did it just now09:06
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flaccidhmmm i think edgy sux. way too many problems with it09:06
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Xbehaveisnt that the point of a development cycle dapper is about for people that dont want to risk too many problems09:07
matthew_flaccid, really? I find it much stabler and easier to work with than dapper...09:07
superjoeI guess I'm slow.  I'm stuck on a screen.  I feel like a five year old trying to use the terminal09:07
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flaccidXbehave: edgy is still a production lts release09:07
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kev1nfor a newbie.... is there a gui program to install .bin files easily without using a command line terminal...... i have realplayer10 to install...i know where it is but i dont know how to install using the konsole09:08
Xbehavei cant think of a program that on release hasnt been met with problems09:08
intelikeyXbehave or for people that could hardly care less about having the latest release of 'blah'09:09
flaccidXbehave its a matter of severity09:09
superjoeintelikey.  i'm stuck like I was the first time.  I thought I just highlighted ok and hit enter but not working.09:10
Xbehavekev1n i think realplayer needs to be run of a script because its not allowed to be added to the repos09:10
flaccid!realplayer09:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:10
intelikeykev1n right click it set it executable  and run it.09:10
kev1nthanks xbehave09:10
N3rg4r!wma09:10
kev1nthanks intelikey09:10
Xbehaveseverity is relative i mean ive been running kubuntu as my os for 3 months only to realise that id broken it shortly after release but its been working fine anyway09:11
Xbehave*edgy09:11
superjoekevlin, automatix2 can install real player09:11
flaccidXbehave: uat says something else :)09:11
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kev1nautomatix2 ?09:12
matthew_!automatix209:12
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe09:12
matthew_lol, I hate when people do that to me...lol09:12
Xbehavekevlin, its my personal opinion but i wouldnt use automatix it installs alot of programs that are in repos using non repos09:12
kev1nlol09:12
kev1nthanks for all your help everyone... i will go back to reading what ubotu said about real player09:13
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Xbehaveinfact i think i have to go reboot because of something automatix messed up months ago, brb09:14
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superjoekevln at this point I would agreee with xbehave and the bot bc automatix did mess up my system when installing java. i used it on my pc w no problem though09:15
intelikeyas i was saying i'm on dailup and the cotten picking "hacker/s" have forced a modem reset...  i can't help much while they are trying so hard to find an open port...09:15
kev1nok...superjoe.... thanks for your advice09:15
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matthew_intelikey, what's this about hackers?09:16
intelikeyah someone port scanning my box all to hell.   forced me off the network   and causing bad lag time.09:17
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matthew_lol, that sucks, esp. on a modem...lol09:17
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matthew_intelikey, check your router logs...you may be able to see the ip address of the attacker...09:18
matthew_kind of retarded to portscan a linux box on dial-up...lol09:18
intelikeyrouter + modem  ???09:18
superjoeanyone know a tutorial on basics of navigating in the terminal. i'm having a lot of trouble.09:18
matthew_intelikey, oh. yeah.09:19
matthew_lol09:19
superjoei'm using gnome terminal 2.16.109:19
matthew_superjoe, to change directories do: cd /path/to/directory09:19
matthew_superjoe, to see which directory you're presently in do: pwd09:19
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intelikey!cli | superjoe09:19
ubotusuperjoe: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands09:19
matthew_superjoe, to copy something do: cp /source/file /destination/file09:20
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matthew_matthew_, to move a file do: mv /source/file /destination/file09:20
superjoematthew, actually i'm stuck in the reconfigure and cant figure out how to click <ok> so i can go to next screen09:20
matthew_superjoe, oh...09:21
matthew_lol09:21
matthew_are you in synaptic or something?09:21
matthew_or in a real terminal?09:21
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rmorrishello09:21
superjoeno the gnome terminal for ubunu cofiguration there is text and the ok at the bottom09:22
matthew_superjoe, hit tab to go down, and left/right to select...then enter to confirm selection.09:22
intelikeycp=copy mv=move ls=list cd=change_dir. mkdir=make_dir. rm=remove df=disk_free du=disk_usage   most cli apps use the Q key to quit them  and/or ^C to terminate them.09:22
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superjoematthew thankyou so much the tab key was all I needed.  i was feeling stupid.  thanks.09:23
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s007hi09:24
s007can anyone help me with ubuntu09:25
intelikeynano is the default *buntu cli editor    all the bash built-ins have   help <command>   while most all cli apps have man or info pages     man intro  ; man man          info info09:25
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superjoes007 hi09:26
s007hi09:26
s007can anyone help me with ubuntu09:26
hastesaver!anyone | s00709:26
ubotus007: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?09:26
s007internet browsing problem09:27
superjoes007 I'm pretty noob myself.  whats your question/09:27
intelikeytype type      if you don't know the differance in a bash built-in and a file   :)09:27
intelikey!flash909:28
ubotuflash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports09:28
s007cna only browse certain sites ie:ninemsn or ubuntu can't access google etc09:28
intelikey"ubuntu can't access google"  ???09:28
s007yes09:28
superjoes007 using firefox?09:29
s007yes09:29
s007firefox 2.009:29
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superjoedon't know, I had full browsing w the live cd even b4 install09:29
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intelikeytry konqueror09:30
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hastesavers007, are you sure it's a Ubuntu problem and not something wrong with your sysadmin, network, something? Can you browse those sites in Windows?09:30
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s007well i had full browsing with the cd too but not now??09:30
s007yes i can09:30
kev1nkev1n@kev1n:~$ sudo ./RealPlayerGOLD.bin09:30
kev1nsudo: ./RealPlayerGOLD.bin: command not found09:30
kev1nkev1n@kev1n:~$09:30
kev1ncan someone explain to me why this is not working?09:30
hastesavers007, maybe something changed in the meantime? Is this home, or are you at work/college/something ? (That is, is there someone else in charge of the network?)09:31
kev1noops i see now09:31
intelikeyyou're using ff?    try konqueror09:31
s007home with a small network09:31
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s007no only me09:32
intelikeyfirst step is to try to determine if the problem is site specific.  app specific  or network in general09:32
s007and also the connection is very slow09:32
hastesavers007, yeah, try other browsers (konqueror, etc.) as intelikey said.09:32
s007ok how or where do i get konqueror new to ubuntu09:33
hastesavermaybe something's wrong with the DNS, but that doesn't explain why obscure sites like "ninemsn" (whatever it is) should work and not Google09:33
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hastesavers007, hit Alt-F2 and type konqueror09:33
intelikeys007 we are assuming you have kde because you are in the "K"ubuntu channel.09:34
s007ok i did09:34
s007and tthen??09:34
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s007and then??09:35
kev1nwhich music player is most suitable to play live streaming from live.com please09:35
intelikeyand then ??09:35
s007conqueror??09:36
superjoeintelikey, just finished reconfigure.  lets see if it fixed the problem09:36
s007konqueror09:36
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intelikeys007 so does it work or not ?09:37
s007no i do i find konqueror09:38
kev1nwhich music player is most suitable to play live streaming from live365.com please09:38
flaccid!postfix09:39
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ubotupostfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto09:39
hastesavers007, if you've found konqueror, it's a browser -- like Firefox. You type addresses of web pages and see if they work :-)09:39
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s007no not coming up09:39
kev1n!streaming audio09:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about streaming audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:39
intelikeyhastesaver i'm thinking he probably doesn't have kubuntu or kde09:39
s007how do i install konqueror09:40
Lathiatkev1n: what formatis live365?09:40
intelikeydon't09:40
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s007i have ubuntu09:40
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kev1ni am not sure lathiat...09:40
kev1ni know realplayer and WMP can play it09:40
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kev1nbut I want a linux version now09:41
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intelikeys007 don't go installing things, just ask in channel  #ubuntu      it's for your system.09:41
superjoeintelikey.  package managers still wont open "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.09:41
superjoeany ideas b4 I reininstall kubuntu.09:41
fowlduck-superjoe: ps -A | grep apt09:41
intelikeysuperjoe yes.    sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock09:42
fowlduck-superjoe: ps -A | grep dpkg09:42
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s007where is channel ubuntu09:42
N3rg4r!wine09:42
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:42
intelikeythis is channel #kubuntu09:43
intelikeydo the math.09:43
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N3rg4rs007, type "/j #ubuntu"09:43
intelikeys007 type in this window.                                     /join #ubuntu09:44
intelikeyand welcome to irc.  the internet of entercourse via text09:45
superjoeAnother process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.09:45
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intelikeydid you rm the lock file ?09:46
intelikeysuperjoe ^09:46
superjoefowlduck intelikey tried both of those, still not working09:46
intelikeysuperjoe ok one more in    sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock09:47
shad0wjackive had adept not shut down properly then i tried to relaunch it and got that messaged. what is did was open ksysgaurd and kill it09:47
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fowlduck-superjoe: what i told you is just for finding processes using the packaging system09:48
intelikeyshad0wjack yeah if it is running in the background09:48
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superjoeok so how do I kill the process09:49
intelikeyfor Q in dpkg apt-get aptitude dselect ;do sudo killall $Q ;done09:50
intelikeyoh... add adept and synaptic to the list09:51
intelikeyfor Q in synaptic adept dpkg apt-get aptitude dselect ;do sudo killall $Q ;done09:51
intelikeyif that don't get it i don't know what will    :)09:51
intelikeybut ksysguard should work also.09:52
superjoelike this "sudo killall $apt-get aptitude adept synaptic s ;done"09:54
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superjoeintelikey, is this right?  sudo killall $apt-get aptitude adept synaptic s ;done"09:56
shad0wjackive never used konversation before. ive always used xchat. i like it, it got a cleaner ui than xchat09:57
intelikeyno09:57
intelikeysuperjoe killall only takes one arg at a time  that's why i used a 'for loop' in the command i gave09:58
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krautmoin09:59
N3rg4ralright how do i reinstall KDE???10:00
superjoeso just like you typed it "for Q in synaptic adept dpkg apt-get aptitude adept synaptic dselect ;do sudo killall $Q ;done10:01
intelikeyyep10:01
superjoethanks, sometimes I don't know is explanation and what is the commands10:02
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N3rg4rhow do i reinstall KDE???10:04
intelikeylogout10:04
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N3rg4rme?10:04
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intelikeyyes   or hit   ctrl+alt+backspace10:04
N3rg4ri installed gnome10:05
N3rg4ri'm in gnome right now10:05
intelikeyoh you said reinstall    i read restart10:05
intelikeyooops my bad.10:05
superjoeintelikey "no process killed" for all.  guess its time for clean install  i think I changed my video settings accidentally during the reconfigure.10:05
N3rg4rnp10:05
intelikeysuperjoe you did the       sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock      command ?10:06
intelikeyand adept still wont start ?10:06
intelikeyN3rg4r did you uninstall it ?10:06
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N3rg4rno,10:06
intelikeyN3rg4r then why are you wanting to "reinstall" it ?10:07
N3rg4rbut i want to get rid of an error message10:07
intelikeyN3rg4r what error message ?10:07
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superjoeintelikey, yep, no fix10:07
N3rg4rthe file protocol died unexpectedly or soemthing like that10:07
flaccidN3rg4r: did you google the error10:08
superjoenope none of them10:08
N3rg4rthe weird thing is that it showed also when running the live cd10:08
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hastesaverCan I ask KDE to use a particular theme for just one application?10:09
flaccidhastesaver: no10:09
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superjoeintelikey, what's the superuser command again.  I'll write it down this time10:10
unix_infidelsudo?10:10
intelikeysuperjoe    what does      sudo apt-get update      tell you ?10:10
hastesaverflaccid, ok, thanks. Coming (back) from GNOME, it feels like there is nothing that KDE cannot do, so I tend to get carried away sometimes :-)10:10
intelikeysuperjoe sudo -i10:10
superjoeE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.10:11
intelikeysuperjoe kdesu <app-name>     for running kde apps as root10:11
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flaccidhastesaver you can configure gtk fonts in system settings however10:11
intelikeyand you did that right ?10:11
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intelikeysuperjoe   you did what the error message said ?10:12
hastesaverflaccid, ok... the default GTK colours make "greyed-out" menu entries almost impossible to see.10:12
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ZuluNuthi guys, How would I change the default operating system to load in GRUB to be windowsXP ?10:13
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zzcoblah10:13
smoothieswhere is the slowness fix option in beryl settings manager, no one in xgl channgel so i'm asking here10:13
smoothieso and is there vista-like flip3d for kubuntu?10:13
zzcokompmgr has run away with processes on my other computer10:13
intelikeyZuluNut edit /boot/grub/menu.lst   and set the one you want as default10:13
flaccidhastesaver there is gtk styles as well there10:13
N3rg4rintelikey, any ideas?10:14
ZuluNutintelikey: Thanks !10:14
ZuluNutintelikey: I need to login as root ?10:14
hastesaverflaccid, it's currently set to "Use my KDE style in GTK apps"... I must try figuring out which GTK style is closest to this (or at any rate, which one is least ugly)10:15
flaccidi have a very bad bug. my samba workgroup changes back to "WORKGROUP" all the time either on reboot or randomly. anybody heard of this its another very bad bug10:15
intelikeyN3rg4r ?   <=>  <flaccid> N3rg4r: did you google the error   <<< that ?10:15
flaccidhastesaver have fun10:15
intelikeyZuluNut you have to edit as root.  you don't have to login as root.10:15
superjoeintelikey that was easy.  fixed it.  tried that at first but didn't know sudo -i, then got sidetracked w reconfigur -a.10:15
intelikey!sudo | ZuluNut10:15
ubotuZuluNut: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:15
intelikey!kdesu | ZuluNut10:16
ubotuZuluNut: In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo10:16
ZuluNutcool, but for some reason when I installed kubuntu it did not ask me for a root password10:16
ZuluNutonly for a user + pass..10:16
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intelikeyZuluNut yep10:16
ZuluNutso when i try to login as root it says login fails10:17
intelikeyZuluNut https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo    read the link10:17
ZuluNutok10:17
intelikeyZuluNut then if you want to change things just ask.  i'll be glad to tell you how.10:17
ZuluNutaha super secure i see10:18
intelikeynot really.10:18
zzcoI'm waiting for kompmgr to free my computer up enough to do something about it10:18
intelikeyroot jr.  is only as secure as your user password really.10:18
ZuluNutok im gonna reboot in kubuntu now10:18
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superjoethats all right I deserve that.  but now I know sudo i, so won't happen again and the tab key in the terminal to click ok.10:18
hastesaverflaccid, those styles ought to take effect immediately :(10:19
flaccidhastesaver agreed10:19
flaccidheh windows can at least do that10:19
superjoeif I'd known those 2 things I would have saved myself 2 hours of frustration.10:19
superjoethanks for saving me from having to reinstall though.10:20
intelikeyzzco hehhe  you might now consider setting limits on things so that can't happen again.     ulimit  and  /etc/security/*   are good.10:20
hastesaverflaccid, and it's strange that KDE isn't configured to remember window geometries by default. Isn't that what everyone would want? :-)10:20
flaccidhastesaver that is the repsonsibility of the program usually10:20
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intelikeysuperjoe if we learn from our mistakes, the trip is worth it.10:21
flaccidhastesaver otherwise its a bit of an overhead to keep a database of geometries for all X binaries run ..10:21
hastesaverflaccid, Really? But I can go to "Special Window Settings" and ask KDE to remember it for this program...10:21
hastesaverflaccid, right, makes sense10:21
flaccidhastesaver in your case that could be conflicting with the programs geometrie saved config trying to load as well. also if you are running a gtk app in kde or vice versa..10:22
N3rg4rflaccid, a very quick and simple question. every time I click on a link in Xchat or open my mail inbox in Gaim, konqueror opens and not firefox10:22
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hastesaverN3rg4r, and you're on Kubuntu, I assume?10:22
intelikeyi'm disappointed.   my hacker has totally given up.  and i'm still not rooted.  :(10:22
unix_infidelintelikey: your hacker?10:23
intelikeyyeah and i even started sshd for him.10:23
flaccidN3rg4r that could be Xchat.. i don't use it. check its configuration other wise check system settings > default applications10:23
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superjoeintelikey yes he he, i think screen res got changed. only options now in monitor settings is 1024x786 and 800x600.10:23
superjoeis this right. any ideas10:23
unix_infidelintelikey: i dont know anyone with any degree of with that would attempt something like that without the proper legal documents.10:23
unix_infidelwit*10:24
unix_infidelNot that any ISP's night noc is any good anymore :P10:24
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N3rg4rflaccid, i changed to FF in default apps10:25
intelikeywell i guess the "tor" was all the "legal documents" he thought he needed   lol10:25
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flaccidcool10:26
flaccidsomething is removing my workgroup and server string directives from smb.conf on reboot10:26
flaccidwtf10:26
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intelikeysuperjoe one can always     sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg         at any time to change the X setup.10:27
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flaccidintelikey: which is great if they had to fix something in there :)10:27
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flaccidyou probably get free wacoms as well10:27
ilan__hi intelikey, menu.lst is open here, what lines are the lines I should edit for changing the default list ?10:28
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intelikeyflaccid yes    but as the ubuntu team says   "that doesn't hurt anything"10:28
flaccidhahahahahah10:28
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flaccidbut if you had to do something else to xorg.conf.. goodbye to those directives :)10:28
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flaccidchances are with ubuntu you had to do something manual, especially if you want to use the prop. drivers10:29
intelikeyZuluNut set the one you want as    save-default    or some such.     flaccid may use gnome, and can tell you the exacts.10:29
ZuluNutI use kde10:30
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flaccidhuh?10:30
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intelikeyerrr not gnome   grub10:30
intelikeygrub10:30
intelikeydefault change.10:30
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ZuluNutso many variables with the word default in them10:31
ZuluNutI see savedefault var, isn't there a GUI for the bootloader ?10:32
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intelikeysave_default  or save-default   or something like that.   i don't use grub.10:32
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intelikeybut all you have to do is add that to the entry you want to be default.10:33
ZuluNutI only see savedfault10:33
intelikeythat's it10:33
ZuluNutwhat entry ?10:33
ScarFreewillis it possable to upgrade from suse 9.1 to ubuntu without formating?10:33
intelikeythe windows10:33
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intelikeyScarFreewill possable  yes.  can you do it.  no.    how do i know,  cause you asked.10:34
N3rg4rZuluNut, what os you want to make default??10:34
ZuluNutintelikey: so i have to locate the windows boot entry and paste the line in their?10:34
ZuluNutN3rg4r: winxp10:34
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N3rg4rZuluNut, you need to know what entry XP is10:35
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N3rg4rthen find this text10:36
N3rg4rWARNING: If you are using dmraid do not change this entry to 'saved' or your10:36
N3rg4r# array will desync and will not let you boot your system.10:36
N3rg4rdefault010:36
ZuluNut# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS10:36
N3rg4rbut you need to know what entry XP is, in the GRUB menu, when u boot up10:37
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ZuluNutas in a number value?10:37
ZuluNutlike 1/2/3/4 ?10:37
N3rg4ryes10:37
ZuluNuthmm10:37
N3rg4rbut 0 being the first one10:37
ZuluNuti see10:37
ZuluNutid need to reboot and count again10:37
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N3rg4rthen change that default 0 for the entry XP is10:37
ZuluNutso i replace the 0 with the number10:38
ZuluNutok cool10:38
N3rg4rindeed10:38
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ZuluNutlemme try that10:38
DaveQBI cant chroot in my Edgy amd64 Desktop, just says cant run command /bin/bash10:38
N3rg4rit is usually 4 i think10:38
DaveQBI tried mkdir bin and copying bash into the chroot dir, but no luck10:38
N3rg4rremember that the first one is 010:38
N3rg4rdamn10:38
N3rg4rhes gone10:38
ScarFreewilldoes feisty crash on the livecd for any one?10:39
N3rg4rbrb as Nergar10:40
intelikeyN3rg4r can't you just use savedefault  and type default by the one you want      i know there is something like that in grub10:40
N3rg4ri really don't know10:40
N3rg4rthats the way i helped out myself ;)10:40
ScarFreewillif i go to the page after you select your timezore x throws this weard small boxes all over the screen10:40
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flaccidread the grub manual :)10:41
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N3rg4rintelikey, i think your right10:42
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N3rg4rbrb as nergar10:42
ZuluNutN3rg4r: ok, so i counted it as 4 with the line saying 'other operating systems"10:42
N3rg4ryes, conut also the line10:43
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ZuluNut1) ubuntu 2) Ubuntu Generic 3) Ubuntu Memtest 4) other operating system 5) WinXp10:43
intelikeyflaccid hehhe the man page is like almost like, you know, like nearly blank you know.    lol10:43
N3rg4rthen it is 410:43
ZuluNutok cool10:43
flaccidintelikey manual not man page :)10:43
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N3rg4rZuluNut, brb don't go away10:44
ZuluNutyou count the line saying 'other operating systems:' ?10:44
N3rg4ryes10:44
vadoHi`10:44
ZuluNutk10:44
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N3rg4rZuluNut, brb don't go away10:44
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intelikeyflaccid care to point at it ?10:45
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montoyaHi, kdevelop is translated to italian in kubuntu?10:46
ZuluNutthen i have 2 more issues with kubuntu -- my bluetooth mouse and video drivers :p10:46
intelikeyah nm.  grub-doc - Documentation for GRand Unified Bootloader    found it.10:46
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flaccidintelikey: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html10:46
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Jazonhi guys10:47
ZuluNutN3rg4r: i'm going to reboot to check if it's effective10:47
Jazonproblems with swap after moving to edgy.  it is saying invalid swap signature10:47
Jazonany ideas how to fix?10:48
superjoe_intelikey, how long you been using linux?10:48
intelikeyoh a day or two.10:48
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Nergarok i'm back10:49
superjoe_ha10:50
superjoe_probably since you were ten huh?10:50
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superjoe_anyone know how long its supposed to take for sun-java-bin to install. its been stuck at 810:52
superjoe_8% for five minutes10:53
Pensa`MIAwhat's the command for tweaking nvidia settings?10:54
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Nergar /msg NickServ IDENTIFY nergar10:55
BrianSteffenslol10:55
Nergarsorry10:55
intelikeysuperjoe_ when i was 10  a computer was a huge machine that read a punch card or the realy nice ones had real to real tape   and a machine the size of your house/apartment could do almost as much as your watch now.    (assuming your watch is not to fancy)10:55
flaccidtahts how big my watch is intelikey10:55
intelikey:)10:56
flaccidalso why i never leave my house. the watch is too big and heavy10:56
ScarFreewillNergar: super lol that happend to me too once :PP10:57
superjoe_intelikey, guess your not still 20 then, hey im installing java in adept updater and in details theres the10:57
NergarScarFreewill, it wont recognice me10:57
Nergar:(10:57
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superjoe_license agreement but only about 1 inch of it showing and cant arow down or tab to click ok?10:58
ScarFreewilli need help feisty doesn't run on my or my bro's pc :(10:58
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superjoe_when click show details its says size 143x33.  any ideas?10:59
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flaccidsuperjoe_: i don't know if adept/gui updaters support post config scripts/ncurses or whatever. maybe you'll have to update via cli11:00
BrianSteffensScarFreewill does Edgy?11:00
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ScarFreewillBrianSteffens: yes11:00
ScarFreewillBrianSteffens: (for both)11:00
BrianSteffensScarFreewill what do you mean by doesn't run?11:01
superjoe_how do i cancel out of the update in adept?11:01
BrianSteffenssuperjoe_ UNPLUG YOUR COMPUTER FAST GO lol j/k11:01
ScarFreewillBrianSteffens: well it doesn't install ...11:01
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superjoe_brian, What?11:02
superjoe_joke right?11:02
intelikeysuperjoe_ right11:02
BrianSteffensScarFreewill: is there an error? or a spot where it hangs up? the info you've given could mean anything from the disc image not being burned right to a problem partitioning11:02
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BrianSteffenssuperjoe_ yea lol sorry ><11:02
simeonhallo, hab da eine frage zur einrichtung meiner bluetooth maus11:02
simeonkennt sich da jemand aus??11:02
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fdoving!de | simeon11:03
ubotusimeon: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:03
ScarFreewillBrianSteffens: I go into the livecd and then run install and after I choose the timezone then my x throws me with lots of colored small boxes11:03
simeonjoin #kubuntu-de11:03
intelikeyZrich ?11:03
superjoe_no really though, should I just exit adept or will this mess up my packages again?11:03
intelikeyif it does,  now you know how to fix it.11:04
intelikeyand start with the error message this time...11:04
intelikey:)11:04
superjoe_true, true :) where do I find cli?11:05
intelikey!cli11:05
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands11:05
BrianSteffensScarFreewill: sounds like a video driver thing. you can't install it at all through the colored boxes?11:06
ScarFreewillBrianSteffens: i can't see anything but i supose there is still mouse and keyboard input11:08
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fdoving!away > nergar11:08
ScarFreewillBrianSteffens: but i don't know what they will ask me further...11:08
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vega-Nergar: nobody's interested11:09
BrianSteffensScarFreewill: if i were you i'd post the issue on the forums so that the devs and other users can be aware of it. but remember feisty is in extreme testing right now and there are bound to be plenty of problems. dapper/edgy are for actual use, feisty is for testing only11:09
vega-(don't use public away/back messages)11:09
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ScarFreewillBrianSteffens: i have :(11:09
ScarFreewillBrianSteffens: and i was thinking of posting at launchpad too...11:10
vega-ScarFreewill: /j #ubuntu+111:10
ScarFreewilli have tried asking there too serveral times :P11:10
BrianSteffensvega- that's a cool name for a channel, guessing that's for feisty?11:10
vega-ok11:10
vega-BrianSteffens: yes, or any version currently in development..11:11
BrianSteffensnice.11:11
ScarFreewillvega-: i'd go try again though.,..11:11
BrianSteffenscan you install drivers and restart X while on the livecd anyone?11:12
mikmet_I would be very happy if someone can help me with this11:12
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mikmet_I get following error: "module monitor&display couldn't be loaded"11:12
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BrianSteffensmikmet: were you recently messing with /etc/X11/xorg.conf or isntalling anything video-related?11:14
superjoe_ intelikey what was that command again "sudo configure -a"?  the system is not telling me what do this time11:14
flaccidi just realised i'm sitting in front a windows box, a linux box and a mac box using all 311:15
mikmet_no i just did regular system update yesterday11:15
flaccidheh11:15
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BrianSteffensflaccid: the linux and the mac boxes are kosher but ditch that windows crap man =)11:16
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hyper_chBrianSteffens: why? Even windows has its right to exist.. and if it is only for gaming11:16
sf_scarfreewill is gone :P11:16
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sf_anyways i was saying: my friend has a nv 6600 and only dapper works for him he has used it for about a month any only done his updates now but the updates broke his drivers11:17
flaccidBrianSteffens can't its my gf's puter11:17
BrianSteffenshyper_ch: lol just messing around =p11:17
BrianSteffenshyper_ch: i actually have a windows machine too, for compatibility reasons lol11:18
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hyper_chBrianSteffens: I have vmware for my palm and lotus notes and photoshop and alltunes :(11:18
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flaccidouch11:19
hyper_chouch?11:19
flaccidon the lotus notes thing11:19
hyper_chflaccid: all of university runs on notes.. I have to inscribe myself for the term through notes.. I have to inscribe myself for exams through notes... it's like the holy grail at university11:20
mikmet_BrianSteffens: do you have any suggestions as to what I should do?11:20
flaccidyeah i know its sad hyper11:21
hyper_chflaccid: at least they don't use Outlook as groupware11:23
BrianSteffensmikmet_ try (in Konsole) kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf and post the contents in pastebin11:23
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xst_After upgrading to edgy the fonts in emacs became very ugly and were no longer antialized. How can I fix that?11:24
hyper_chuhhh... upgrading... don't people normally advice against upgrading from dapper to edgy?11:25
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mroczekhi!11:26
hyper_chhi mroczek11:26
intelikeygrail=cup ?11:27
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mikmet_BrianSteffens: http://pastebin.com/84704111:27
hyper_chintelikey: ???11:27
flaccidhyper_ch: groupware is bogus11:28
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hyper_chflaccid: well, Notes isn't that bad.. it's just a ressource hog and you have to get used to it11:28
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BrianSteffensmikmet_ try this. go down to Section "Device" and change driver "nv" to say driver "vesa".. save it, then ctrl+alt+backspace and see if it still happens11:29
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rahabhi there11:33
intelikeyhyper_ch "The Holy Grail, was the cup used by our Savior in dispensing the wine at the last supper "  webster.   so i failed to make the connection in "all of university runs on notes....it's like the holy grail at university"     didn't mean anything by it.  just asked if that was the intended meaning ?11:34
rahabdoes anyone know how use an iso as a block device?11:34
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rahabloopback doesnt work...11:34
BrianSteffensintelikey: you're kidding right?11:35
intelikeyrahab   sudo mount -o loop file.iso /mount/point11:35
eilkerhi to all, could anyone suggest me a download manager? like getright in windows...11:35
intelikeyBrianSteffens not this time.11:35
rahabi need to pretend to have /dev/cdrom oder /dev/hda or something like that11:35
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rahabintelikey: im afraid that doesnt work :(11:36
intelikeyrahab why not ?11:36
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rahabintelikey: vmware server doenst accept the device to be a common mountpoint lilke /mnt/xyz11:37
hyper_chintelikey: I see... I thought the term "holy grail" is also used as a metaphor/allusion like Gordian Knot, Sword of Damokles, ... to say it's like the fundamental thing at university :) nothing can be done without it :)11:37
BrianSteffensintelikey: kinda hard to explain, but 'holy grail' can also mean like.. the end-all, be-all.. something every seeks or holds in reverance11:37
BrianSteffensyea that lol11:37
crubeWhere can I change the style of my login screen?11:37
rahabintelikey: i even tried to point him to /mnt/loop0 where the image is mounted via loopback. no luck11:38
intelikeyrahab idk about vmware.  maybe vmware docs can answer that.11:38
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rahabintelikey: mhh not really. thanx anyway11:39
Guardianplease, since the last upgrade of my kubuntu 6.10 , usb flashdrives are no more mounted automatically, is there something to fix manually or is there a pending update to do ?11:39
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intelikeyBrianSteffens i guess if people worship things, that would apply.11:40
eilker!kget11:40
ubotukget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 431 kB, installed size 1176 kB11:40
mikmet_BrianSteffens: Ok, well that didn't really work: now the resolution is 2048x1536@60Hz and the monitor module still isn't working11:40
intelikeyrahab did you try just making a symlink in the /dev/ dir   ln -s /path/to/file.iso /dev/something   and point at /dev/something        have no idea if it'd work or not.11:41
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BrianSteffensmikmet_ =/ ok, change the driver back to 'nv'.. i'm afraid i'm all out of ideas (i use ati card heh)11:42
rahabintelikey: just trying...11:42
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intelikey!ati11:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:42
flaccidi think that kubuntu needs a quality assurance team11:43
intelikeyflaccid if it had one it's release cycle would be like debian's.11:43
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mikmet_ok, well thanks anyway11:44
intelikeywhich would suit me just fine   but three forths of the users would leave for a "newer version"  :)11:44
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flaccidwhat would you suggest to improve the quality of production releases? at the moment i'm thinking of moving to gentoo or freebsd for desktop because of the amount of bugs and crap implementations11:45
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intelikeyflaccid ever use debian stable ?11:46
Jucatoflaccid: how about trying to help out squash those bugs or test development versions?11:46
MHKcan somebody tell me, why i can't log in a WEP-encrypted network with kubuntu but with windowsXP?11:46
flaccidintelikey: only for server11:46
Jucato#ubuntu-bugs, #ubuntu+1, #kubuntu-devel... channels you might want to go to11:46
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BrianSteffensflaccid: dapper is quite stable. if you're looking for something that moves very very slow but is very very stable, there is always debian11:46
flaccidJucato: i have an occupation and i'm a web developer only. can't help with these bugs11:46
Jucatothere's also #ubuntu-motu for package/packaging issues11:47
intelikeyvery very slow ?    compared to what ?11:47
BrianSteffensflaccid: half of fixing bugs if finding and reporting them11:47
Jucatoflaccid: how about some other ways you could help11:47
flaccidBrianSteffens: yeah i'd prefer freebsd w/ xorg11:47
BrianSteffensintelikey: slow as far as updates and release cycle11:47
flaccidBrianSteffens: they are reported by me. not much being done11:47
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intelikeyagain compared to what ?11:48
ubuntuhaii11:48
flaccidJucato: i don't have anymore time than helping out in this channel11:48
BrianSteffensintelikey uh, this11:48
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ubuntu_any body here11:48
Jucatoflaccid: your life...11:48
intelikeyyes indeed compared to this *buntu   it's very very slow.   but compared to M$  or even mac11:48
flaccidJucato: yeah. see i been coming here for a while now. and i still don't know anyone who is an actually kubuntu developer, funny isn't it11:49
smoothiesi downloaded splashy deb pack, right clicked and installed it, now i can't find it, lol where did it go? thx11:50
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ohmbrhi... I magrate from Mandrita to Kubuntu.. I'm having problens on accents... all words thar has accent now is with other character whird...11:53
ohmbrdoes some body know how to fix that?11:54
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smoothieshey how do i become channel moderators12:04
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MilhousePunkRockABATTOIR!!!!!!!!!!112:12
flaccidgotta love windows . 5 hour virus scan12:12
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neo_hi all12:13
neo_is anybody here that installed Zend Studio 5.5 on Kubuntu?12:14
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vito_web?12:15
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thibaultBonjour12:16
flaccidcia0-12:16
thibaultya des francais ?12:17
flaccidnegative12:17
thibaultok ok12:17
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flaccidsee ya later mate :)12:17
flaccidoops12:17
flaccidi mean g'day mate12:17
flaccidone too many drinks tonight12:17
thibaultlol12:18
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flaccidtis a bit quiet here12:19
flaccidare peoples systems actually working12:19
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MilhousePunkRockflaccid: Maybe the regulars just got sick of a thousand newbies asking how to install beryl? ;-)12:24
flaccidhehe12:25
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flaccidbbs12:27
SkippyXWhat's considered a newbie? I've been using linux since '00, ubuntu since last year, and I still drop simple questions into channels....12:27
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MilhousePunkRockSkippyX: Well, that depends... People who want to install bery first and have no basic idea about how Linux works are newbies from my point of view12:28
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fdovingSkippyX: we try not to use the newbie definition. We try use 'new users'. And who that is, depends on the topic.12:30
SkippyXHmm. How it works? Well. installing? update your sources, and either apt-get install whatever or synaptic double click (!)12:30
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SkippyXfdoving: That's a nice way of looking at it, imo.12:30
SkippyXMuch nicer than - "rtfm, n00b." I've run across that once or twice. Certainly not since using ubuntu.12:31
SkippyXnice community, from what I've seen.12:31
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SkippyXMilhousePunkRock: how so?12:32
MilhousePunkRockLess regulars in here, more "stupid" questions...12:32
MilhousePunkRockMight be a misperception though since I am not in here much anymore...12:33
SkippyXI understand your frustration on that account. But, I well remember being brand new to linux, and not very adept at any OS, and trying to deal w/ mdk 7.2 - w/out the knowledge of how to find things out.12:34
SkippyXImagine the frustration of the new user.12:34
MilhousePunkRockSkippyX: I have been through that, until I found the joys or IRC12:34
SkippyXIRC has been handy for me as well.12:34
MilhousePunkRockInstalled Kubuntu, was sooo happy to get my wireless working, adept does some updates, bang, wireless broken again...12:35
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SkippyXI don't have any wireless devices, so that's not an issue for me. Right now I'm trying to figure out why I can't get the system to "see" my digical camera.12:36
SkippyXdigital.12:36
SkippyXmea culpa.12:36
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MilhousePunkRockSkippyX: Tried setting it to UMS instead of MTP?12:36
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MilhousePunkRockIf that is possible and MTP is the evil-doer...12:36
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SkippyXI don't even know the difference between UMS & MTP.12:37
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MilhousePunkRockUMS: Universal Mass Storage --> Camera will get handled like any replacable drive12:37
MilhousePunkRockMTP: Media Transfer Protocol --> You will need libmtp, strong nerves and a lot of patience12:38
Stalk3rok, I have a question12:38
SkippyXAhh. Ok - then UMS would be the choice.12:39
Stalk3rWhy doesn't my system see my DVD media? the same device sees CD ROM media12:39
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MilhousePunkRockSkippyX: Check if the camera has a setting for that...12:40
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Stalk3rnobody knows, huh?12:44
SkippyXI think I'll need to do quite a bit of research. But - what about just getting a card reader? Stick the card in and if it's connected to the USB port it should be automatically seen, right?12:44
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SkippyXHmm. Did you d/l the kubuntu packages?12:44
SkippyXOr are you using ubuntu?12:44
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Stalk3rSkippyX:  you talking to me?12:45
SkippyXStalk3r: yes.12:45
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Stalk3rKubuntu dapper drake12:45
SkippyXOK - you've got a DVD drive on your computer and no CD drive?12:45
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Stalk3rI have a dvd-rw and a cd rom, hdc and hdd respectively, hdc reads cd media just fine but not dvd media12:46
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superjoestalk 3 did you get the dvd codecs yet12:47
SkippyXOK - what do you mean by "media"? it won't read any DVD inserted? DVD movies? DVD data disks?12:47
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Stalk3rI"ve only tried the dvds i burned12:47
Stalk3rwith windows12:47
Stalk3rdata dump, you see.12:48
SkippyXOk - file backup.12:48
Stalk3rwell crap12:49
SkippyXcorrect?12:49
Stalk3rright12:49
Stalk3rapparently if it's an mp3 only dvd it reads fine, but a mixed mp3/video dvd won't read12:49
SkippyXThat's likely a codec issue. do you have broadband?12:50
Stalk3ryes.12:50
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MilhousePunkRockwb flaccid12:51
flaccidyay my modem finally bridged12:51
SkippyXhave you used automatix or easyubuntu to d/l the proprietary codecs that ubuntu/kubuntu can't legally ship w/ their install disks?12:51
flaccidthanks mate12:51
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Stalk3rnope12:51
Stalk3rjust installed a few hours ago12:51
SkippyXYa might wanna try that. If the system can "see" the drive at all (music files - presumably copied onto a DVD-/+R), but not recognize video files, I would think it's a codec issue.12:52
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Stalk3rthanks12:52
Stalk3rany clue where I'd find the apps in question?12:53
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SkippyXStalk3r: hang on a second....12:53
ler_hydrais there any (binary) nvidia driver guide other than the one on ubuntuguide?12:53
ler_hydraI seem to have a semi-borken system wrt the nvidia driver12:54
Stalk3ri saw like 6 nvidia driver packages when I used adept for updates earlier12:54
ler_hydrayeah, I've installed them via apt12:54
fdoving!nvidia | ler_hydra12:54
ubotuler_hydra: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:54
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superjoestalk3r,  i'm using automatix2 to install the video codecs12:54
Stalk3rgood luck12:54
SkippyXhttp://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - homepage for easyubuntu12:55
ler_hydrathey still throw a hissy fit when trying to start x with the proprietary driver12:55
SkippyXhttp://www.getautomatix.com/ - page for automatix12:55
Stalk3rthanks SkippyX.12:55
SkippyXI used automatix on my system last year - worked like a charm.12:55
fdoving!automatix12:55
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe12:55
SkippyXfdoving: I had heard that, but have found no problems on my system having used it.12:56
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SkippyXUsed it on my father's as well.12:56
SkippyXOf course - there's always easyubuntu12:56
fdovingSkippyX: it works for some, once it makes problems they are often hard to fix.12:56
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SkippyXYes. Something else I had heard of being done is d/ling automatix, unpacking the script and reading it to d/l the appropriate drivers/codecs/whatever through apt.12:57
SkippyXThat seems like the long way 'round, but I know one guy that did it that way12:57
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superjoejust don't close it while its running, i had to reinstall kubuntu12:58
superjoebut am using right now and no problems12:58
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superjoeif you use it to install java you have hit tab to the <ok> to accept license agreement12:59
ler_hydraah, it seems that the ubuntuguide installation instruction isn't completely correct12:59
ler_hydrait works now, thankfully01:00
ler_hydrado you happen to have a dual-head guide too?01:00
fdovingnvidia dualhead?01:00
fdovinghmm.. that's twinview.01:00
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SkippyXGeeze - how could i have forgotten about that?01:00
ler_hydrafdoving, uh, yeah01:00
ler_hydrathat's right01:01
SkippyXStalk3r: look up the unofficial ubuntu starter's guide as well...01:01
SkippyXhang on01:01
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SkippyXStalk3r: which version of ubuntu are you using?01:02
Gmalexhi01:02
Stalk3rkubuntu 6.06.101:02
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SkippyXOK - hang on.01:03
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SkippyXOK - I'm using an ubuntu system - and I'm not sure if all the info in this guide is good for kubuntu - one of the others here likely has more info on that.01:04
SkippyXBut - this was very, very handy for me. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper01:04
SkippyXI would think much of it would be the same.01:04
SkippyXis there an unofficial kubuntu guide?01:04
Gmalexi've a trouble with Kubuntu....while i'm working the screen of my notebook switchs off....in windows there's not this problem then i think is a problem related to Kubuntu01:04
ler_hydra!compiz01:05
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:05
Gmalexwhat can i do? Is the battery? The computer is linked to the electric line...01:05
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Stalk3rSkippyX: bookmarked, thanks01:06
SkippyXNo problem, mano.01:06
SkippyXI knew a new system can be a frustrating thing.01:06
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Stalk3rkubuntu is ubuntu with the KDE interface, so I'm sure it applies01:06
Gmalexhelp me please :(01:06
Stalk3reasy ubuntu is performing installation tasks as we speak01:07
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SkippyXGmalex: I've no idea. I don't have a laptop. wish I could be of help.01:07
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Stalk3rGmalex: is it after 1 minute of inactivity?01:07
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GmalexStalk3r: no instead it's after some minutes of activity01:08
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Gmalexwhile i'm writing..01:08
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Stalk3rand how do you get it back on?01:09
Gmalexi don't understand01:09
Stalk3rhow do you restore your display?01:09
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Gmalexi turn off computer manually01:09
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fdovingGmalex: what laptop is this?01:10
GmalexFujitsu Siemens Amilo A762001:10
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Gmalexi've had problems with the battery in the past..01:11
SkippyXWow. ksirc is ugly.01:11
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Gmalexbut the notebook now is linked to the electric line01:11
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Stalk3rKonversation is nice.01:11
wimpiesHI all, I got this strange keyboard-shift problem.  when I press and hold the shift only the first character is presented shifted, then it reverts to non shifted01:11
SkippyXStalk3r: Is it? I've been a loyal XChat user for a long time. Tried ksirc outta curisity.01:12
MilhousePunkRockSkippyX: Konversation is really nice... Better than Xchat imho01:13
hyper_chanyone knows a site with pro/cons with regard to audio formats: mp3/wma/ogg/mpeg4/mpc?01:13
SkippyXHmm.01:13
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Stalk3rwell, I'm still in defaul colors, so the white background is annoying, but other than that it seems functional, easily configurable and even set up my auto-identify with ease01:13
ler_hydra!compiz01:13
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:13
MilhousePunkRockhyper_ch: I could tell you some...01:14
superjoewhats the best way to kill automatix 2.  it froze up on the dvd codecs01:14
Xbehaveim looking through the forums, to find out how to install a webcam but i seam to get the impression im missing something basic, where should i start?01:14
flaccid9951with a gun01:14
MilhousePunkRockXbehave: Google!01:14
Xbehavehow long has it been frozen for01:14
SkippyXHoly mackeral.......01:14
SkippyX3.9 megs? That'll take forever over my dial-up line. Good thing I've gotta go shopping in a bit.01:15
hyper_chMilhousePunkRock: well, ogg is free and better quality over mp3 right? but some mp3 players have difficulty playing ogg files right?01:15
superjoethere are 2 processes in system guard.  automatix.py and automatix201:15
MilhousePunkRockhyper_ch: Indeed, portable players with ogg are still rare01:15
superjoe10 minutes not doing anything01:15
MilhousePunkRockmp3 probably has the widest suppor01:15
MilhousePunkRockt01:15
hyper_chMilhousePunkRock: but you can convert ogg to mp3 right?01:15
MilhousePunkRockhyper_ch: You can, but converting from one lossy format to another will result in even more loss01:16
superjoexbehave should I kill both processes01:16
Xbehavei cant say i recently did but it could have messed up my system01:16
MilhousePunkRockSince they work somewhat differently, mp3s from oggs will sound worse than the same songs converted to mp3 straight from the cd01:17
hyper_chMilhousePunkRock: if I download at 192kbps and convert it to 128 mp3... will it be bad?01:17
superjoegreat, i just reinstalled,  this is getting annoying01:17
MilhousePunkRockhyper_ch: I don't know for sure, but I assume, any conversions will make the quality worse01:17
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MilhousePunkRockWhy not stick with 192? I think it's the best quality vs filesize ratio01:18
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hyper_chthe 320 download is $ 3.90 and then 192 is $2.52.... hmmmmm.....01:18
SkippyXUm. http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/PortablePlayers01:18
SkippyX.ogg compatable players.01:18
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superjoehow do I kill a proccess that is root01:20
hyper_chI guess I'm going to download them as .ogg ... someone said with rockbox you can listen to .ogg on ipods01:22
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wedgeVsuperjoe: sudo kill ... ?01:22
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AlcapondHi I am looking for a wlan pcmcia-card which is natively supported by kubuntu - where can I find those information? Thx!01:28
SkippyXOK - I'm off. Have fun y'all01:30
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guptaeverytime I run kdialog I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39300/01:39
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ler_hydra!twinview01:39
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:39
guptakdialog runs all-right but I just don't want X to type these error messages01:39
ler_hydrahmm, anyone else know anything about getting twinview up and running?01:40
ler_hydraI have the nvidia driver installed now01:40
_torHey, Konversation is nice.01:40
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stdingupta: I know what those errors are01:42
gupta:)01:42
SkippyXYeah- I can live w/ this. OK. Take it easy y'all. I'm off01:42
stdinit's to do with the wacom drivers in xorg.conf01:42
stdineasy to fix01:42
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guptahow?01:43
stdingupta: you just remove any instance of wacom in xorg.conf01:43
stdingupta: if you post your xorg.conf on pastebin, I'll show you01:43
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guptacool, I'll restart X now01:44
stdinyou done it already?01:44
ler_hydra!aiglx01:48
ubotuAIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.01:48
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larson9999heard a new phrase today: vista FUD. i don't think that's possible01:50
ler_hydraisn't that mutually inclusive?01:51
stdinvista isn't FUD, MS just use FUD to promote it01:51
larson9999that's what i thought01:51
larson9999reminds me of the country song, "too much fun. what's that mean?"01:52
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JohnFluxmy normal user doesn't have permissions to mount my usb disk01:55
JohnFluxhow do I allow the user to do that?01:56
JohnFlux$ mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/usbdisk/01:56
JohnFluxmount: only root can do that01:56
stdinuse pmount01:56
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stdin!pmount01:57
ubotupmount: mount removable devices as normal user. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.13-1build1 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 588 kB01:57
JohnFluxstdin: thanks ;-)01:57
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Jucatohi JohnFlux :)01:57
JohnFluxyo :-)01:57
guptathanks to whoever it was it helped me with that Xorg error messages problem.01:59
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stdinyou're welcome gupta :p01:59
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JohnFluxmu usb hard disk keeps getting somehow disconnected and unmounted02:02
JohnFluxi'm trying to copy a few GB's to it, but half way through the computer umounts it, then auto detects it again02:03
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Roadrunner1985!ntfs02:03
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse02:03
Roadrunner1985the script diskmount-script is not at the url.02:06
Roadrunner1985*diskmount02:06
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stdinwhat are you trying to do Roadrunner198502:09
stdin?02:09
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zero-9376can someone tell me how to set a default view profile in konqueror02:10
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Roadrunner1985stdin: i try to mount my 2 ntfs harddisks (read & writeable)02:11
zero-9376my guess is its in a config file somewhere but i cant find anything on the net02:11
stdin!ntfs-3g | Roadrunner198502:12
ubotuRoadrunner1985: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)02:12
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zero-9376im using ntfs-3g and it is going well, a little cpu intensive but worth it02:12
Roadrunner1985uhm. what is 6.10? dapper or edgy?02:13
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stdinRoadrunner1985: dapper02:13
stdinopps02:13
stdinedgy02:13
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stdin6.10 is edgy02:13
Roadrunner1985okay. thanks. im very new to linux and all this distris Oo02:14
stdinthat's why we're here to help :D02:14
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fdovingzero-9376: you can't change the default profile as you want. You can however start konq with the view profile of you choice.02:15
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ThomasZAnyone willing to tell me why I keep loosing /dev/hdc ? My cdrom never shows up there.  And doing a mknod doesn't survive a reboot :(02:16
Jucatofdoving: what do you mean you can't?02:16
zero-9376Jucato do u know where i can do it?02:17
fdovingJucato: can you? - select the view profile you start when konqueor is started with 'konqueror' ?02:17
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Jucatofdoving: I think it depends on what profile Konqueror loads by default when called with a plain "konqueror"02:18
fdovingzero-9376: you can start konqueror with a view profile of you choice with 'kfmclient openProfile profilename'02:18
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Jucatofdoving: over here, "konqueror" loads the "webbrowsing" profile.02:18
fdovingJucato: I don't know if that can be changed.02:18
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Jucatoum.. probably not, but you can certainly modify the webbrowsing profile.02:19
fdovingsure.02:19
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fdovingand you can also open konqueror with other profiles.02:19
ThomasZJucato: your konqueror icon on kicker actually has a profile hardcode in there.02:19
Roadrunner1985okay thanks. now it runs =)02:19
Jucatodefinitely :)02:19
fdovingwith the 'kfmclient openProfile'02:19
JucatoThomasZ: heh I didn't notice. I changed it immediately after I made my own profile :)02:20
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Roadrunner1985one more question. command to unzip .tar.gz is "tar xvfz archiv.tar.gz" ?02:20
zero-9376yes my kicker icon has webbrowser but i want to change the view for all windows that i open, possible???02:21
JucatoRoadrunner1985: tar xvzf archive.tar.gz afaik02:21
Roadrunner1985thanks =)02:21
zero-9376you can look up things like that in man pages too02:21
zero-9376they give examples02:21
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fdovingzero-9376: depends on how you open konqueror, you can modify all the profiles :)02:22
stdinRoadrunner1985: you can take out the v in xvzf if you don't want to see all the files being untarred02:22
zero-9376well alot of the time i do it  from the run command dialog02:22
ohmbrhi, where do i set the charset of kubuntu?02:22
ohmbris that possible?02:23
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maryenhiho02:23
fdovingohmbr: the default for the whole system is set by the locales. usually in /etc/environment, you can install the package 'localeconf', from konsole with the command: 'sudo apt-get install localeconf' - to configure those easily. (the package is in the universe repository, you need that enabled to get it)02:26
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maryenhey fdoving02:26
maryenI'm finally returning to kubuntu ^ ^02:27
fdovinggood thing :)02:27
maryeni tried to love ubuntu... but it was just too annoying02:27
maryenI especially hated how kde apps worked properly only half of the time while gnome apps always run fine in kde -.-02:28
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malc_Hey I am on ubuntu atm and I am trying to apt-get kde.  However its coming up with ...02:29
malc_The following packages have unmet dependencies:02:29
malc_  kde: Depends: kdemultimedia (>= 4:3.4.3) but it is not going to be installed02:29
malc_E: Broken packages02:29
malc_Can anyone help?02:29
stdinmalc_: that package in in the universe repository, so you need to enable that, but if you want to install kubuntu, you just need to install kubuntu-desktop02:32
fdovingmalc_: you want to install what stdin says :)02:32
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ThomasZHm cdwriter (hdc) is not found on edgy; any ideas on how to get it recognized?02:35
malc_Currently I have this configuration http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories shouldn't universe already b enabled02:36
stdinmalc_: did you update the package list after?02:38
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stdinmalc_: if you're just trying to turn ubuntu in to kubuntu, or add kubuntu to ubuntu, then you just need to install the 'kubuntu-desktop' package02:41
ThomasZnobody with knowledge about udev? and why my cdrom doesn't get an entry in /dev ?02:41
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hyper_ch!fr02:48
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.02:48
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kzshello02:54
kzsi have a little problem with kubuntu.02:54
kzsa install a system but i dont know a root password.02:55
stdinuse sudo02:55
stdin!sudo02:55
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:55
krauthow do i get the partition name of an UUID?02:55
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kzsooooooooooooooooooo02:56
kzs1000000000000000000 million thanks02:56
stdinkzs: no problem02:56
kzsyou are a god.02:56
stdinkraut: example:  sudo vol_id -u /dev/hda102:57
stdinkzs: no, I just know a couple things :p02:57
kzsthx02:57
kzsby02:57
kzsby02:57
stdincya02:57
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KDELearnerHi. How do I install a  .tar.gz   file I downloaded?02:59
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KDELearnerI need help quickly since I need to leave soon03:00
KDELearnernever mind. bye03:00
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krautstdin: thanks03:01
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stdinno problem kraut03:01
_arafat!mono03:02
ubotumono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu7.1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB03:02
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kraut!uuid03:03
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)03:03
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poppemiehello everyone03:06
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poppemiewho of these users in this room are not positif about ubuntu?03:06
stdinsince this is a kubuntu suppoet channel, not many03:07
stdin*support03:07
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poppemieDoes ubuntu 7.04 is really beter than 6.10?03:08
poppemie*is sorry for my bad english03:08
stdinnot yet, as 7.04 hasn't been released yet03:08
poppemiebut you can download the alpha version already no?03:08
stdinyes, Feisty Herd 103:09
poppemie#warzone03:09
poppemiehow can i go to other channels on IRC?03:09
bsm /join03:09
hyper_chhmm, herd 1... had problems gettting that installed :( somehow it kept messing up with the harddisk locations03:09
bsmwithout the space03:09
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bsmpoppemie: you better won't install any alpha versions03:10
poppemieok03:10
stdinhyper_ch: my hda turned to sda :p03:10
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hyper_chstdin: yes, that mixed it up when I upgraded from edgy to feisty... and I wasn't able to make a clean install03:10
hyper_chbtw then I have my small little install.sh file and my backup repo file so I can quickly get my system up and running again as before03:11
stdinhyper_ch: it was a kernel bug in 2.6.1903:11
hyper_chstdin: yeah, that was the kernel :)03:11
hyper_chstdin: so that's fixed meanwhile?03:11
poppemiei don't think so03:12
stdinyeah, it's fixed now, in 2.6.20 :D03:12
hyper_chstdin: because there's an annoying bug in xubuntu edgy03:12
poppemieis kernel 2.5.20 already out?03:12
poppemie6*03:12
stdinyeah, i'm running 2.6.20-2-generic03:12
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vega-2.6.20 is not out03:13
poppemiewich rooms can i visit is there a list with all the rooms?03:13
hyper_chstdin: since I got myself a 500GB disk today and am waiting for a few .oggs to be download I think I could give feisty another try....03:13
stdinvega-: then how come I'm running it?03:13
vega-http://www.kernel.org/03:13
hyper_ch!irc03:13
ubotuirc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines03:13
vega-stdin: you are running some ubuntu version03:13
hyper_ch!irc | poppemie03:13
ubotupoppemie: irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines03:13
poppemieok03:14
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stdinvega-: i'm running feisty03:14
vega-yes03:14
poppemiewhere do you come from ? from europe? do you often use windows?03:14
vega-it's still not out :)03:14
stdinit still rocks tho :P03:15
poppemiecan ubuntu beat windows vista i mean can ubuntu attire more users?03:15
vega-don't know about that03:15
poppemiewhat do you think guys03:15
vega-probably not03:16
stdinvista need a supercomputer to run, I'll stick with linux03:16
vega-well, maybe 10-20 years03:16
poppemieprobably not why?03:16
hyper_chpoppemie: linux is about choices and some people choose windows... for a variety of reaons... compatibility, "ease" of use, because they don't know better, ....03:17
vega-too much people used to windows, gaming, ... etc.03:17
stdinpeople will buy a new PC and it will come with vista, that's one reason03:17
poppemiewell if ubuntucompany makes self hardware03:17
poppemiethan the users will come03:17
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DaveQBpoppemie:  Cononical03:18
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poppemieyes i mean that03:18
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hyper_chpoppemie: a lot more people are using linux now than 2-3 years ago... having a look at it getting it to run, compared to 2-3 years ago, it has become very simple to do... it still needs a lot of work but it's getting there03:18
poppemieit's getting there i don't understand sorry but my mother language is not english03:19
Dr_willisand compared to some of the disasters ive had witn windows.... Linux is easier in some cases.03:19
poppemieok03:19
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poppemiedoes someone now why warzone 2.0.4 never work :(:(:(:(:( and it's created for linux:(:(03:20
stdinone problem for people switching from windows is, linux isn't windows, a lot of people expect/want it to be the same03:20
hyper_chDr_willis: well, my PDA won't work with linux... that's the negativ side of linu... you don't have all that hardware and interoperability that you have on windows03:20
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poppemiethe solution is easy that de linuxdistro's makes self hardware03:20
poppemieand windows will fail at that moment03:21
hyper_chstdin: there's this winxp theme for kde 3.5 and I bet if you put that on a kubuntu quite a large number of people wouldn't notice much of a difference03:21
poppemiewhat if the windows company burns of explode or burns by an earthquake03:21
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poppemiedo you also haver more problems with kde than gnome?03:21
stdinpoppemie: windows don't make hardware, hardware is made for windows, that's the problem03:21
hyper_chpoppemie: that has no impact.... Microsoft has billions in stock... so loosing their HQ at Redmond wouldn't bother them that much03:22
poppemieyou understand me well03:22
stdinhyper_ch: yeah, I've seen it, it's ugly :p03:22
poppemiegnome works better for me i don't know why03:22
poppemiethings in kde works very bad sometimes03:22
poppemie:(03:22
poppemiebut gnome is beautiful03:22
stdinyou have the choice, choose what works for you03:22
poppemieand kde ugly03:22
poppemieif you change the skins of course03:23
hyper_chand actually, it's good for Microsoft that Vista has such insane hardware requirements03:23
stdinkde isn't ugly, you can make it look like what you want03:23
hyper_chOEM is the key03:23
poppemieyah i know but if i wanna change a skin in kde than it doesn't work03:23
poppemiethat's the reason03:23
stdinhyper_ch: in a way, it's good for us all, it pushes hardware to be better03:23
hyper_chyou tell existing customers that the new version is much more secure, much better, much much much...03:24
vega-better=faster?03:24
poppemiedo you know if there is somewhere with a number of the linuxusers?03:24
hyper_chso they want ti, buy new hardware.... and get it already installed03:24
Dr_willisI change my kde themes all the time.. it just has a very flexiable system of theming different parts.. you have more options with kde.  gnome keeps things simple and locked down in many ways.03:24
poppemieiedereen zijn goesting e dr_willis03:24
hyper_chso hardware sellers have actually an interest in OEM and selling windows03:24
stdinand gnome has that regedit clone thing, eww03:24
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poppemieregedit in gnome?03:25
Dr_willisa regedit clone to edit a xml file. i think even..03:25
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vega-gnome has less stuff but it works, kde has lots of stuff but everything isn't so well polished always, that's my experience03:25
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poppemieok vega03:25
Dr_willisgnome keeps a lot  of its settings in a huge config file with all the 'power options' that the gnome devs think would confuse 'people'03:25
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hyper_chxfce has all I need and runs nicely03:25
poppemiedo you bought an ubuntu computer in a store?03:25
Dr_willisthere are web sites that sell preinstalled linux machines.03:26
stdinsystem76 sells ubuntu PCs/laptops03:26
poppemieyes i know but i am a bit jaloes because in europe the linux pre installed computers03:26
vega-Dr_willis: that's called the "human interface guidelines / usability" or smthing like that :)03:26
poppemieare not so nice and quick03:26
hyper_chstdin: hmmm... a lappie... I have to get one, one day :)03:26
stdinme too hyper_ch :p03:26
hyper_chprobably I get one by my new employer03:27
poppemieand in america the wireless card is supported03:27
Dr_willisvega-,  'programming interfaces for idiot users' :)03:27
hyper_chbut that would then be MacOS03:27
poppemiein europe they sometimes say the wireless thing isn't working always03:27
poppemie:(03:27
hyper_chwireless and bluetooth are still immature technologies03:27
poppemieif you buy an pre installed computer03:27
Dr_willisas for the warzone questions earlier - be suer to get the lastest version at ----->   https://gna.org/projects/warzone/03:27
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stdini'm in the dark ages here, no wireless03:27
Dr_willisWireless is SUch a disaster its scary.03:28
hyper_chand most people here think WEP is safe....03:28
Dr_willisI just run wires.. faster and easier.. and much more reliable by like 1000% for me.03:28
poppemiewired is for me not possbile in this house03:28
vega-wireless has worked nicely a few years on my dell d61003:28
Dr_williseven under windows - i have  a hard time with wireless cards03:28
poppemieme too you know03:28
vega-also bluetooth03:28
hyper_chactually, my wifi card needn't any special treating at all in dapper and edgy :)03:29
poppemiedo you play sometimes 3D games in linux?03:29
hyper_chI don't play any games03:29
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poppemienever hyper_ch?03:29
Dr_willisTheres several 3d games out and more comming out every month.03:29
stdinfrozen-bubble is kinda 3d :p03:30
Dr_willishyper_ch,  lives in IRC. :)03:30
poppemiefrozen bubble 3d hahaha03:30
Dr_willislike I should talk.. hehheh...03:30
Dr_willisIRC = the ultimate game.03:30
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stdinI still play quake3 when I need that 3D fix03:30
stdinor just rotate my desktop cube :D03:31
poppemieis that stable already desktop cube?03:31
poppemiei mean the 3D program for linux03:31
stdinI use Beryl/AIGLX, that's stable for me03:31
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poppemiecan i run it on a Vmware ubuntu?03:32
stdinyeah03:32
poppemiebut i thought 3d doesn't work on it03:32
poppemiewhere can i download it?03:32
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hyper_chnice, almost all .oggs downloaded... then I can plugin my new hdd03:32
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stdinactually, I don't know if it works, I haven't tried03:33
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hyper_chI have doubts that it works in ubuntu if ubuntu is run as VM03:33
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poppemiedamn:'03:34
stdinthere is  a LiveCD of SabayonLinux that has XGL/AIGLX so you can test it there03:34
poppemieok thanks03:34
stdinbut slow on a LiveCD tho03:34
poppemieslow on? what do you mean?03:35
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stdinthe effects are slow when you run beryl on the LiveCD03:36
stdindepends on you hardware tho03:36
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poppemieok if i chat a lot here my english will be better and better:)03:36
hyper_chwith 2 gigs ram and a decent processor and quick drive... it's shouldn't be too slow03:36
stdinit's always faster when you install03:37
poppemiethat i understan03:37
poppemied03:37
stdinFeisty will have hardware acceleration on by default too03:37
hyper_chwhat does that do?03:38
Dr_willis"Eye candy now included" :)03:38
stdinthat's AIGLX, it enables all the effects, but you still need beryl/compiz to get the effects03:39
hyper_chah03:39
Jucato"Eye candy now included" "Dr_willis now sold separately"03:39
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Dr_willis"Not aviliable in stores!"03:39
Jucatohehe03:39
Jucato"Sold out"03:39
Dr_willis"Order now and get free - Leet Haxor Status"03:39
Jucatoheh03:40
poppemiehow many hours are you online in this rooms average?03:40
poppemiethe whole day? just curious03:40
poppemiehow fan you are03:40
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poppemiewow amazing03:40
stdinme too03:40
hyper_chthe same as Jucato03:40
poppemieisn't that boring after a while?03:41
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Jucatoalthough I leave the room once in a while in order to enjoy some peace of mind :P03:41
Jucatoone has to preserve his/her sanity03:41
poppemiesanity?03:41
stdinthat's what /away is for :p03:41
hyper_chstdin: /away? *g* I never us it03:42
Jucatostdin: nah, /away doesn't remove notifications and other visual reminders (like scrolling lines...lots of scrolling lines)03:42
poppemieok03:42
poppemieguys i must be off03:42
poppemiesee you later03:42
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stdinJucato: I set konversation to disable notifications while away03:42
Jucatostdin: yeah, but as long as the channel is open, I can't resist the urge...03:43
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stdin:p03:43
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shadowhywindmorning/evening all03:43
shadowhywindDoes anyone know if there is a way to "upgrade" tpa  64-bit kernel while leaivng the 32 bit untouched? or would i have to install 2 completely different kubuntus?03:44
hyper_chonly 4 more songs to download and then I'm away for some time :)03:44
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Blissexshadowhywind: youn have to.03:46
shadowhywinddang, i was hoping i could do it like if i did a kernel upgrade, i get the old kernel on grub sort of thing03:47
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braddoroI'm wondering if someone can helpme, I upgraded from dapper to edgy, and then I ran apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade, now when I boot I get an error: fontconfig error: cannot load default config file  What do I have to do to fix this?03:48
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Blissexshadowhywind: 64 bit mode is a different, even if tantalizing similar, architecture...03:50
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Blissexbraddoro: that is strange, check what you have in '/etc/fonts/'03:50
braddoroBlissex: i did but I don't know what I'm looking for, there are a bunch of xml files03:51
braddoroi googled and it said that something probably didn't get compiled correctly03:51
Blissexbraddoro: there should be one called 'fonts.conf' and should be readable by everybody.03:51
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Blissexbraddoro: if you compiled some programs yourself, good luck :-).03:51
braddorook that could be the probelm03:52
tmdx120hi everyone. I want to test the security of my machine. Im are there any apps out there that will help?03:52
jothI'm running Kubuntu on my laptop, but I want to set up a partition and install windows on it. Can someone please point me to a good guide on the net?03:52
zero-9376can some1 tell me where to tell kde to turn on the numlock key at startup ive done it before but cant find it03:52
braddoroi have a fonts.conf.dpkg-new03:52
braddoroall of them are new03:52
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braddorolike that03:52
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adz21czero-9376: Settings -> Periphals -> Keyboard03:53
braddoroBlissex: so it looks like the font package didn't do something right, can I rerun it?03:53
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Blissexbraddoro: you can just do 'mv /etc/fonts/fonts.conf.dpkg-new /etc/fonts/fonts.conf' and so the the others.03:53
Blissexbraddoro: that's probably most reliable.03:54
shadowhywindwhat is the difference between the 386 kernel and the 686?03:54
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Jucato!generic | shadowhywind03:54
ubotushadowhywind: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)03:54
braddoroBlissex: so just rename the files?03:54
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zero-9376tmdx120 try nessus i read something about it the other day03:56
Blissexbraddoro: yes.03:56
braddoroBlissex: ok, i'll try that, thanks for the help03:56
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zero-9376anyone know of an app to build a xbox iso for linux?03:59
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dec_hello i am trying to upgrade to 6.10 and I am getting a failed to fetch error code 2 everytime I try anyone have a workaround?04:00
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dec_hello i am trying to upgrade to 6.10 and I am getting a failed to fetch error code 2 everytime I try anyone have a workaround?04:01
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n8k99dec_ did you apt-get dist-upgrade?04:01
dec_no04:02
bsmdec_ how are you trying to upgrade?04:02
dec_apt-get-update is what I am using04:03
n8k99you need to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:03
fdoving!upgrade04:03
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)04:03
dec_will that eliminate error code 204:03
n8k99check out that link there ^^^^^^^^04:04
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akhtethi04:06
akhtet /quit04:07
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stefanhi04:12
stdinhi04:12
stefanwhere are you come from ??04:12
stdini'm from the UK04:13
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stefanexactly??04:15
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stdinbirmingham, england04:15
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stefanok04:17
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stefanso you favourite team is Villa or Birmingham ?? :P04:18
stdin:p villa04:18
stefanhow old are you ?04:19
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stdin20, what's with all the biographical questions? :p04:19
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stefanok i finished :)04:20
stdinso, you in Poland?04:20
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stefanyes04:22
stefanbut why you know that??04:23
stdin:)04:23
stdinfrom your IP address04:23
stefanok04:23
stefanyou are linux user too ??04:23
stdinyeah, used it for 10 years04:23
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stefanyou i install my linux ten minutes ago :::)04:25
stefanand i am new here :)04:26
stdinever used linux before?04:26
stefanonly XP :)04:26
stdinyeah, that's not linux :p04:26
stefani know :)04:26
stefanmaj i have some question to you about linux ??04:26
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stdinyes, this is a support channel after all :)04:27
stefanthx04:27
stefanI want you install some program04:27
stefanand i really don't how to start :/04:28
tony_what program do you want to install ?04:28
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stefanKadu04:29
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tony_not in repository04:30
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montoyahttp://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/kde/kdevelop04:30
izprincehey, silly question here, what CD burning software does Kubuntu come with?04:30
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stdinizprince: k3b04:30
stefanok04:30
izprincethank you :)04:30
stdin:D04:30
montoyaWhy kdevelop run in english!!! My locale is set to italian04:30
stefananother question04:30
stefanmy linux boot normaly from hdd can i make something to boot it from floppy dusk ??04:31
TheGateKeeperstefan, installed dapper or edgy?04:31
stefanKubuntu04:31
TheGateKeeperyes but which version?04:32
stdinaww, he's new you know04:32
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stefanyeap i am new04:32
stdinstefan: did you download the CD, or get it from shipit?04:32
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stefanbut i recently download it from web page04:32
tony_probably is edgy04:33
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TheGateKeeperstefan, probable edgy, open konsol & paste this command & tell me what is returns please: grep RELEASE /etc/lsb-release |cut -b 17-04:34
Jucatoshipit only ships dapper for now.04:34
JucatoTheGateKeeper: lsb_release -a will also do :)04:34
stdinor lsb_release -c04:34
stdinor -r04:34
stdin:P04:35
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stefan6.0604:35
Jucato-c is for the Codename, -r is for the Release (number)04:35
stdinyep04:35
stdinso dapper it is04:35
ironfroggy_LTi have a device i would like to monitor the network data of. is it difficult to toss in to ethernet cards to a box, and have them piped together, logging the data?04:35
ironfroggy_LTor is there a better way?04:35
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stdinironfroggy_LT: you can try wireshark04:36
stdin!wireshark04:36
ubotuwireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.3a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 545 kB, installed size 1528 kB04:36
TheGateKeeperstefan, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper  http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories04:36
stefanwhat is this??04:37
ironfroggy_LTi want to see if wiishop can be hijacked to installed my own packages :-D04:37
TheGateKeepersome usefull info for you to read04:37
Jucatostefan: one of the easiest guides for you to read would probably be the Kubuntu Desktop Guide that comes with the installation04:37
stefanok thx04:38
Jucatoit's quite simple and concise (although, too simple for my taste...)04:38
stefanbut what about this booting ??04:38
stefando you know how to make it ??04:38
Jucatowhat booting?04:38
TheGateKeeperdo that from your bios04:38
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morphadohello i have a problem with shutdown in kubuntu 6.1004:39
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daniel777hihoo04:39
stefanfrom bios??04:40
adridoxbuenas04:40
stefanhow??04:40
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morphadoalthough i have add the line acp= force to the line menu.ls04:40
daniel777i'm using KSubtitle, and the letter with  () i can't see, only i can see this symbol .04:40
adridoxpeople here only speak english ?04:40
daniel777adridox04:40
adridoxhi daniel77704:40
The_MachineWhat's the best way to get xvid avi file to DVD (playable in dvd player?)04:40
daniel777#ubuntu-es #kubuntu-es #edubuntu-es04:41
daniel777jejeje04:41
The_Machinemaybe on the fly burn even?04:41
morphadoany one can help please04:41
morphadoany one can help please04:41
adridoxdaniel777: thnx04:41
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daniel777adriox, the best is ubuntu... there are no many persons in kubuntu-es04:42
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adridoxdaniel777: yes...04:43
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daniel777jejeje04:43
daniel777hablas espaol?04:43
adridoxsiiii04:43
adridoxXDD04:43
daniel777jajaja04:43
daniel777dalee04:43
daniel777tu demas me pueees ayudar :D04:44
TheGateKeeperstefan, when your machine boots up hold down the del (delete key) & that will take you into your BIOS settings. BE CAREFULL what you do, you can modify the boot order & set the first thing to boot from to be your floppy disk. But BE CAREFULL make sure you know what you are altering04:44
adridoxa ver04:44
daniel777en el ksubtitle, enves se salir los tildes o, sale un . :S:S:S:S04:44
adridoxmira te comento, mi problema es que no me va bien el teclado04:44
stdinTheGateKeeper: it's not always del04:44
adridoxno van las teclas con altGr04:44
Pirate-kinggoodmorning04:44
adridoxcomo por ejemplo, arroba y demas04:44
mindspin!es04:45
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:45
adridoxjajaja04:45
adridoxvale04:45
adridoxvoi para dentro :P04:45
TheGateKeeperstefan, stdin what ever the apprpriate key is, del, F1, whatever04:45
adridoxkubuntu-es04:45
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Pirate-kingwhat is a good web cam program to use in kubuntu?04:45
Pirate-kingeasy to set up04:45
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tony_i think the best thing is to find a webcam that would work with linux04:47
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adz21cPirate-king: Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000 works a treat for me ... only cam I ever used. I used if in Kopete and gnomemeeting before04:47
adz21cit*04:47
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LjL!es | daniel777, adridox04:48
ubotudaniel777, adridox: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:48
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thekidhello04:52
stdinhi04:52
thekidwhat is a good web cam program to use in kubuntu?04:52
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thekideasy to set up04:52
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stdinyou just asked that04:53
thekidyeah and no one answered04:53
daniel777!de | LjL04:53
ubotuLjL: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de04:53
stdinthekid, search for webcam in adept04:54
thekidok04:54
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stdinI don't use a webcam, so I don't know04:55
thekidok want to change from windows04:55
daniel777stdin04:55
adz21cthekid: "Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000 works a treat for me ... only cam I ever used. I used if in Kopete and gnomemeeting before"04:55
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stdindaniel77704:55
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daniel777can you help me:D04:55
daniel777a can wirte  with no problem04:55
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tdd1984hey guys when using mget * how do i get it to say yes too all files, instead of it asking is it okay for every file to be copied?04:56
daniel777but i downloaded some subtitles from argenteam04:56
daniel777and in the ksubtitle i see  .04:56
digitalfreedomis there a program or util that i can get thats like check disk/scan disk and defrag for kubuntu?04:56
stdinmaybe the subtitles are not in UTF804:56
daniel777for example, i don't see antiptica, i see antip ica04:56
digitalfreedomdaniel777:  have you got your language packs installed?04:57
digitalfreedomand charsets?04:57
daniel777i think so,04:57
daniel777i have gnome in spanish04:57
stdindigitalfreedom: fsck will check you disk automatically, and you don't need to defrag04:57
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digitalfreedomno defrag on linux? please tell how this is possible /me is very intrigued04:58
digitalfreedomWARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause04:59
digitalfreedomSEVERE filesystem damage.04:59
digitalfreedomehhhhhhhhhh ok04:59
tdd1984hey guys when using ftp mget, how do i get all files to download automatically instead of it asking yes or no for every file?04:59
stdindigitalfreedom: because linux (actually the filesystem ext3) stores files in spaces that fit, not like windows04:59
digitalfreedomoic thanx04:59
digitalfreedomso about that warning im getting04:59
stdindigitalfreedom: i said it will run automatically, on 30 mounts/reboots04:59
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digitalfreedomcan i run it manually? im at the konsole right now and its telling some bad stuff will happen05:00
stdinyou need to run it on a unmounted fileststem05:00
digitalfreedomlinux is all i have installed no dual boot for me05:01
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HymnToLifewhy to you want fo fsck anyway ?05:01
stdin'sudo shutdown -F -r' should reboot and run it for you, or you can do it from Live CD05:01
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digitalfreedomwell im just want to ensure my hdd is in good shap05:02
digitalfreedomshape05:02
Roadrunner1985hello. i did a little mistake. how can install grub to another harddisk?05:03
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Vegeta^Is there softwares that can block certain websites (with password). If so what are they?05:03
Roadrunner1985ubuntu is installed on sda1 and grub is installed on hda105:03
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stdinRoadrunner1985: there is help on reinstalling GRUB here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows05:05
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Roadrunner1985stdin. thanks a lot05:05
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m_hi05:07
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Roadrunner1985stin. sorry. my english is to bad to understand this. ill better reinstall my kubuntu05:10
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Roadrunner1985*stdin sorry05:10
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lsmithahoi .. anyone running kubuntu in vmware?05:14
lsmithi am trying to install it on my windows laptop05:14
tdd1984hey guys how do i get all the files with mget? its not getting the folders only the files in the root?05:15
lsmithand after selecting install or safe boot from the menu vmware just hangs ..05:15
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Jucato!beryl > Jucato05:19
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Dr_willislsmith,  i recall seeing some Ubuntu Vmware images allready made on some of the vmware sites. save you some time.05:20
lsmithah right .. will check05:20
Dr_willislsmith,  i dont recall any issues when i tried ubuntu +vmware  a few mo ago.05:20
x-demonanyone try kde4?05:20
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lsmithfound 6.0.6 in their appliance listing05:22
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lsmithhmm05:24
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Dr_willisthere may be some other sites with newer versions.05:25
tdd1984hey guys how do i downlaod all folders/files from cli ftp? I tried mget   -R * and did not work05:25
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Dr_willischeck the forums/wiki perhaps?05:25
tdd1984I think it downlaoded the files out of the folders, but it did not create the folders?05:25
Dr_willistdd1984,  may want to try 'wget' instead. I think a lot of the recursive features of ftp depend on the ftp server05:25
Dr_willisbeen years since i last used ftp05:26
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scheurianyone ever tried to import KMail (Mails and structure (with maildir)) into Evolution?05:26
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marcelohola soy nuevo en esto y no se como instalar amule en ubuntu!!!!!05:28
arafat!es05:29
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:29
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cacifalimarcelo, debes conectarte al canal kubuntu-es, aqui solamanete ingles05:30
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marcelothenky05:31
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hyper_chhiho05:32
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x-demonwho can give me a shell? :)05:33
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morphadohello again05:33
soulrider!lock05:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:33
stdinx-demon: konsole05:33
soulrider!database locked05:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about database locked - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:33
morphadoprobleme with shutdown in kubuntu 6.1 any ideas05:33
LjL!botabuse05:33
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...05:33
LjL!adept crash fix05:33
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'05:33
Jucato:)05:33
soulriderthanks LjL05:34
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x-demoni go to kde 405:34
x-demoni must try it05:34
scheurihe is...05:34
LjLJucato: well, i use a keyboard most of the time05:34
x-demoni download, now test...05:34
JucatoLjL: so do I :)05:34
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morphadoanyone can help please05:34
LjLJucato: i also started to learn typing at about 3 ;-)05:35
Jucatolol now that's just... whacked :D05:35
LjLthough the *way* i type would shock anybody who's been actually *trained* for touchtyping, i guess05:35
LjLJucato: well... my C64 has the same age as myself05:35
n8k99ask your question morphado if someone can answer it they will05:35
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n8k99ususally there is someone05:35
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n8k99:)05:36
LjLJucato: what i find bad with that is that the fingering is fixed. think of the word "jump" for example: you need to use the index finger three times in a row for J, U and M05:36
morphadomy kubuntu 6.10 don't shutdown05:36
morphadowhen i do the computer hangs05:36
JucatoLjL: true... :)05:36
n8k99how have you tried to shutdown?05:36
morphadoeh05:37
LjLJucato: "my" way is more piano-like, i.e. fingering changes depending on the specific word. this probably makes typing uncommon words harder (i have to make up a fingering in my head first), but makes typing common words faster05:37
morphadoby the normal05:37
LjLJucato: for "jump" i use index, middle, index, ring for instance05:37
n8k99morphado: by normal do you mean the shutdown option on the kmenu?05:37
morphadoyep05:37
JucatoLjL: heheh very flexible fingers... :)05:37
JucatoLjL: I can't imagine typing in any other way now... :(05:37
morphadoi tried this in menu.ls   add acp= force05:37
stdinLjL: I type the same way as you then :p05:38
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n8k99morphado: try opening a terminal (konsole) and typing sudo shutdown now05:38
Dr_willisacpi=force ya mean?05:38
morphadoyes05:38
morphadosometimes it works05:38
Dr_willisis this a laptop? new machine? old machine?05:38
morphadopentium 405:38
morphadogigabit card pc x05:38
LjLJucato: hands move much more than with standard touchtyping. it also probably means i make many more typos... but hey, this was a problem with typewriters. we have backspace now :)05:38
morphadoso i guess it is a pretty new one05:39
LjLstdin: i guess most people who can type fast but weren't actually trained with touchtyping do... although i suspect that learning to play piano at about the same time and pace i learned to type also gave it some distinctive characteristics :)05:39
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stdinLjL: naver played the piano, not well anyway, but i've been typing for a long time, and prefre it to the mouse05:40
mitch__hey guys, i wonder if someone could help me with a problem...i just installed the kde desktop and my wireless connection won;t work anymore...any ideas?05:40
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stdinfirst thing i do after install is setup my shoutcut keys :p05:41
JucatoI played the piano years ago... but somehow it never carried over to the keyboard :)05:41
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LjLstdin: well, that's interesting too, Apple apparently did a study where they compared how fast people could do things using the keyboard vs the mouse. the result was that on average they were faster with the *mouse*, but they *perceived* they were faster with the keyboard05:41
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LjLwhich IMHO opens some interesting questions on how a GUI should be designed =)05:42
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Pirate-kingwher is a good place to compare ubuntu and kubuntu05:42
LjLon a computer05:42
Dr_willisPirate-king,  one usesd gnome, other uses kde by default.. other then that they as basicially identical.05:42
Dr_willisinstall  both desktops..  use one for a while. then try the other.05:43
Daisuke_Idojust look at the differences between gnome and kde, and make your choice based on personal preference05:43
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Dr_willisTheres many KDE apps that i use all the time. so even if i used gnome, id still be using those kde apps.05:43
Dr_willistheres also a few gnome apps i like.. so the reverse is true. :)05:43
morphadodon't u thing it is a no sense to release a new distrubition with a serieus bug like this, i am going back to my 6.0405:43
Dr_willisIf i install ubuntu, first thing i do is install the kubuntu-desktop as well.05:43
LjLmorphado: nice, where did you get 6.04? :)05:44
Dr_willissounds like it may be more of a kernel bug to me.05:44
morphadowhat from the net ljl05:44
LjL!dapper05:44
ubotudapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".05:44
LjLthere is no 6.04 ;)05:44
stdinthere was 6.0605:45
mitch__hey guys, i wonder if someone could help me with a problem...i just installed the kde desktop and my wireless connection won;t work anymore...any ideas?05:45
stdinbecause it was late :p05:45
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morphadoyes ok call it what u want05:45
LjLtrue05:45
Pirate-kingok....there are a couple things I want skype web cam dvd and cd burning transfer files off a camera and ipod05:45
Daisuke_Idocall it what it is.05:45
LjLi call it what it's called..05:45
Daisuke_Idoand how it's named on every site i've seen.05:45
LjLanyway morphado, sure, if there's nothing that you need from 6.10, there's no reason why you shouldn't stay with 6.06, which has LTS as an advantage05:46
morphadoi want a solution to my problem not trying to prove i am a linux guru05:46
JucatoDapper Duck...05:46
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evan_hey guys, new to linux, love kubuntu have a few questions if that's ok06:00
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stdindon't ask to ask, just ask :)06:00
Dr_willisask away.06:00
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evan_i'm looking for drivers for my printer: canon pixima ip6210d06:01
evan_have any ideas where i can find?06:01
Dr_willisgood LUCK.06:01
Dr_willis:)06:01
evan_lol06:01
Dr_williscanon can be very unfriendly towards linux06:01
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Dr_willischeck the cups homepage -- www.cups.org perhaps. There may be some  drivers for it.. but dont expect much. I got a Pixima ip1600  that i guess is not supported much if at all at this time.06:02
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evan_i installed turboprint and it worked but it slaps a huge logo on your page06:03
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Dr_willisIn the Future - i will NOT be buying any printers from canon.06:03
Dr_willisevan_,   bummer.. but look at is this way.. the $$ from that i think filters down and pays for all the other drivers getting developed.06:03
Dr_willisso eventually that driver may be free.06:03
dec_I hope someone can help, I cannot access the internet although my wireless connection is strong all devices are working but when I use firefox it times out06:03
Dr_willisdec_,  try pinging the gateway from the terminal?06:04
dec_where would i find the gateway address06:04
Dr_willisIts your system. :) mine is the ip of my router.06:04
Dr_willisor try pinging any other machines on the network.06:05
dec_I did and it came back 100% loss06:05
Dr_willisI think thats telling us that the network card/network settings are not correct.06:05
dec_how can i check the network card/settings06:06
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Dr_willisI dont use wireless any more. i ran wires... wireless is such a disaster under windows and linux.06:06
dec_my wireless card was working for the last 6 months and then all of a sudden it stopped06:06
Dr_willisyou said earlier that  the connection is strong and all other devices are working... how are you even checking that?06:06
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Dr_willisahhhhh.. thats interesting.06:06
Dr_willisit just stopped like yesterday?06:07
dec_through my wireless assistant06:07
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dec_when it stopped i put the card in a windows machine and it works fine06:07
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hyper_ch!mount06:08
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter06:08
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ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse06:08
hyper_ch!fstab06:08
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions06:08
hyper_ch!Partitions06:09
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter06:09
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jerpI need to load the installation programs I got with my motherboard but of course they are designed for Windows.  Is there a workaround I can do to tweak my memory slots?06:11
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evan_ok then next question why is my internet slower in konquerer in kubuntu than firefox or ie in windows (i haven't tried other browsers in kubuntu)06:11
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soulriderevan_: it porbably isnt06:12
soulriderjust looks like it is06:12
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hattakonqueror is a hog06:13
bowensAs I may not be here when it happens, happy upcoming new year folks!06:14
calvarezquestion! after installing the Adobe Flash plugin for firefox, firefox now crashes whenever I go to a flash site (I tried youtube and homestarrunner). Any ideas?06:14
hattaI use firefox for browsing and krusader for files, never need to touch konqueror06:14
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StingRayHi can somebody tell my where this line in Kubuntu is: SessionTypes=kde;gnome;default;failsafe;06:14
StingRayIt was supposed to be in kderc06:14
StingRaybut it is not :(06:14
hattaand if you install a png theme everything will go faster in kde06:14
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evan_the theme is not the problem06:14
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evan_i guess i'll try firefox06:15
raghi *, please help me06:15
ragproblem is 'at key' and other keys typical for my keyboard not works06:15
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Dr_willisStingRay,  i thought kdm read the sessions from the various .desktop files  in.. some dir.. heh06:15
ragxorg not works for me, i have es layout but nothing06:15
ragi try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:16
ragbut nothing06:16
StingRaycan you share this little secret please, Dr_willis06:16
Dr_willis-- my kdm sessions seem to come from -->  /usr/share/xsessions06:16
Dr_willisits no secret. :)06:16
Dr_willisgdm reads the same files.06:16
StingRaythere is no such sessiontype var06:17
StingRay:(06:17
Dr_willisyou sure you are not  looking for kdmrc06:17
StingRayI checked them already06:17
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StingRayi doublechecked it06:17
Dr_willisi cant recall ever using a seeiontype var. Ive just altered the files in that dir06:17
osohhi all06:17
ragmy settings layout=es and pc10506:18
StingRaychecked them with grep -iH session *06:18
StingRaynothing there06:18
StingRaylost almost the whole day :(06:18
Pirate-kingwhy does my firefox crash on some sites?06:18
Dr_willisflash issues most likely06:18
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Dr_willisStingRay,  its possible you are going about your problem from the wrong direction.06:19
Pirate-kingook06:19
StingRayI know what I want, but don;t know where to search for it06:19
Dr_williswe dont know what you want.. :)06:19
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StingRayI want to find where my login options are06:20
StingRaylike SessionTypes=kde;gnome;windowmaker;blackbox;anotherlevel;default;failsafe;06:20
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StingRayaccording to KDE they should be in kdmrc06:20
Dr_willisif its not shown in the kdmrc file - then it uses the system wide defaults.. which i guess would be to use that sessions dir06:21
Dr_willisadd the line under the   [General]  settings in kdmrc perhaps06:21
Dr_willisor under the [Xdmcp]  settings06:21
StingRayI searched the whole kdmrc and  /usr/share/xsessions/*06:22
Dr_willisTheres also a kdm manager program tahts not included by default I think06:22
StingRayI am all ears :)06:22
Dr_willis---> add <--- add the line under the   [General]  settings in kdmrc perhaps06:22
Dr_willis!find kdm06:22
ubotuFound: kde-kdm-themes, kdmtheme, kdm06:22
Dr_willis!info kdmtheme06:22
ubotukdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 264 kB06:22
StingRayI will check if it will override the other one06:22
Dr_willisHmm.. that may be it.. it does more then themes06:22
StingRaythank you, doctor ;)06:23
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evan_can i get kubuntu to read my ntfs drive?06:25
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fdoving!ntfs | evan_06:27
ubotuevan_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse06:27
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ScarFreewill!feisty06:29
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+106:29
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ciemmeciao a tutti06:32
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wilmanI have installed edgy but not everything is working yet06:33
wilmanwhat are the main packages for sound functions06:33
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evan_last question... i want to start programming for linux... what's the best language to learn06:35
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Bubba_Gumpbrother evan_ , perl06:37
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ohthello brethren :)06:37
Bubba_Gumphello :)06:37
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Bubba_Gumphow graceful my desktop looks, brother06:39
ohtmine is currently the windows affliction, brother :(06:39
Bubba_Gumpyour heathen ways disappoint me, brother06:39
oht;)06:40
Bubba_Gump:D06:40
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wilmaninstall beryl and you will be satisfied06:45
wilmanThe source seems encrypted, and can't be read.06:46
wilmanYour DVD is probably crypted. According to your country laws, you can or can't use libdvdcss to be able to read this disc. (Media stream scrambled/encrypted)06:46
wilmanwhat to do about this?06:46
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ohtbrother wilman: install libdvdcss06:51
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tony_using libdvdcss.. can k3b copy protected movies to HD ?06:55
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wilmanhmmm06:56
wilmaniam finding a repository06:56
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tony_Has anyone installed cinelerra ???06:57
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JOSFHi! While trying to install Kivio something happened to my apt-database. adept_manager does not start anymore, adept_updater tells me there are no packages upgradable (should be 72) and the Adept program from the start-menu shows only uninstalled programs.07:08
JOSFHow can I recreate the database of installed packages ?07:09
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JOSFDoes this mean I need to recreate the apt-cache ?07:13
JOSFHow do I do this ? I am new to apt07:13
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slow-motionhallo07:16
ryanakcahow do I re-enable the OSD for putting the volume up or down with my keyboard's multimedia keys?07:16
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ryanakcahey slow-motion07:16
slow-motionhi ryanakca07:16
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krautis there any ipv6 mirror?07:17
ryanakcaJOSF: try running the command:               sudo apt-get update07:18
ryanakcakraut: for... the repos?07:18
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krautryanakca: yes07:18
madohallo ihr da07:18
ryanakcadunno... *checks*07:18
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JOSFryanakca: that updates the list of remote packages from the repositories, no ? I am need a list of my locally installed packages.07:18
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ryanakcaJOSF: hmm... pastebin the output of "dpkg -l"07:19
JOSFok, hold on07:19
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Engdoug_dae07:20
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JOSFryanakca: dpkg: command not found07:21
JOSF(I had it....)07:21
Engdoug_haha07:21
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Engdoug_#linux07:21
sa6oooki need global help07:21
sa6oookabout my Nvidia drivers07:22
sa6oookcan somebody help?07:22
JOSFwhat is *global* help ? ;-)07:22
Lynouresa6oook: global?07:22
sa6oookBig07:22
sa6oooknot global07:22
sa6oook:)07:22
JOSFcan't help with nvidia07:22
JOSFdoes not work for me either07:22
ryanakcaJOSF: you don't have dpkg installed?07:23
ryanakcaerm... *scratches his head*07:23
Engdoug_i used to have an GF II07:23
JOSFryanakca: Well, I used it two days before. I also have the man page.07:23
sa6oookso somebody for suppord /?07:23
Engdoug_its just download de driver and dpkg -i07:23
JOSFBut as it seems, the dpkg command has gone07:23
Engdoug_or ./driver07:23
JOSFit is not even in my located anymore07:23
ryanakcaJOSF: type in    dp    and hit tab...07:23
JOSFlocatedb I mean07:23
sa6oookSetting up linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386 (2.6.15.12-1) ...07:24
JOSFthere it is07:24
sa6oooklook @ this shit07:24
JOSFstrange07:24
sa6oooki'm installing nvidia07:24
sa6oookit installs new kernel07:24
sa6oookand krash totally07:24
ryanakcaok, try         sudo chmod 755 /usr/bin/dpkg07:24
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Lynouresa6oook: modules is not the whole kernel. Or did it set up the actual kernel for you?07:26
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Engdoug_its a litle strange,..07:27
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JOSFryanakca: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39353/07:27
ryanakcaJOSF: ok, so your database is still there, it's probably just because dpkg wasn't executable07:29
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ryanakcatry running adept again07:29
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JOSFI did not change anything to dpkg. It is listed as executable on on the second run it was there. Okay, I will try.07:29
ryanakcachmod 755    made it executable07:30
JOSFryanakca: I did not chmod 755, since there was no need to do so ;-)07:30
ryanakcaeh hunh07:31
JOSFIt was not in my path at first try, it is not even in my slocate db anymore07:31
JOSFBut on second try it was there.07:31
JOSFVery strange07:31
JOSFadept does not start07:31
JOSFit takes the console and nothin happens. I need to ctrl_c to get out of it07:32
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wilmanwhat is a good program to watch dvd?07:34
Ace2016wilman: kplayer :)07:34
wilmanok ;)07:34
wilmanthx07:34
ryanakcaJOSF: hmm...07:35
wilmanis it really good?07:35
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Ace2016front end to mplayer so it plays everything, written in qt so it fits in well with your qt theme, you need the w32 codecs and dvdcss stuff installed07:35
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wilmanok07:36
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Ace2016wilman: make sure to get it from cvs from sourceforge because the version on their website is only 0.5.3, the cvs version is 0.5.9, they said they're going to release at 0.607:40
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DarkWizzardhello all07:41
DarkWizzardwhen I put in a cd07:41
DarkWizzardit tryes to mount it07:42
DarkWizzardbut it gives me an error07:42
DarkWizzard"Malformed url"07:42
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DarkWizzardsame thing with my mp3 player07:42
DarkWizzardwhat is causing this ?07:42
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MrBallZquestion,  How good is the Intel GMZ 950 graphics chipset ... compared to Nvidia - ATI , under linux .... without going to the propietary driver thing ...07:43
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mitch__Can anyone help me figure out why my WPA wireless won;t work anymore after installing KDE?07:44
morphadohas anyone a solution to the problem of kubuntu 6.10 shutdown07:44
wilmanok07:44
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jnhello07:45
jnhello again - I've just joined soemething but I don't yet koinw what it is07:45
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Ace2016jn: what do you mean joined?07:46
DarkWizzardcan anyone help me07:47
DarkWizzard?07:47
wilmanhttp://websvn.kde.org/ ?07:47
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PlaguezLol.07:48
PlaguezWhen netbeans runs on my ubunto machine, it results in a denial of service. Lol.07:48
PlaguezGuess 256mb ram, cant handle it. Lol.07:48
morphadobut i am the only one07:49
DarkWizzardis there any chance I can make my mp3 player writable by my user07:49
DarkWizzardnot only by root ?07:49
ohtthere is a chance!07:49
oht;)07:49
DarkWizzardhow ?07:50
jnI have recently installed Kubuntu linux and am learning how to use it07:50
DarkWizzardoht: can you please tell me ?07:50
jnThis is the first time I have tried to use the Konversation software07:50
ohtwell i'm not exactly sure07:50
jnI assume everyone here is using Kubuntu?07:50
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ohtDarkWizzard: does it mount automatically or do you mount it?07:51
oht(with the mount command07:51
DarkWizzardi mount it07:51
DarkWizzardwith mount -t vfat /dev/sda /media/sda07:51
ohtcool07:51
ohttype 'man mount'07:51
ohtand it should say in there how to assign diff permissions for diff users07:51
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jnIs there anyone here from the UK?07:52
Ace2016jn: does it matter?07:53
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jnDoes it matter - only that it would be very helpful for me to know if there are any people who can help with technical problems07:54
jn... as I have not used this sort of system before07:54
DarkWizzardjust ask the question07:54
DarkWizzardand we wil help07:54
DarkWizzardif we can of course07:55
jnOK thanks!07:55
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jnI have installed linux becasue I have had such a lot of problems with windows and viruses etc.  At least it seems to cure that difficulty, but....07:55
jnfor now I can only get a 640 by 480 screen resolution, and....#07:56
DarkWizzardoh07:56
archangel_how do I get my multi card reader working using dapper?07:56
jnI can't get the machine to s'see' any other external IDE drives.07:56
DarkWizzardjn: if you type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:56
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DarkWizzardinto terminal07:56
DarkWizzardyou can configure your display07:56
jnBut I have managed to use the Open Office and the Konqueror OK07:57
DarkWizzardexternal as USB connected ?07:57
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DarkWizzardyou need to mount them07:57
wilmanarr i deleted a media program but now i can't watch dvd's anymore with kaffeine07:57
archangel_yes07:57
wilmanstupid linux dependencies07:57
archangel_DarkWizzard: I guess you were talking to me07:57
Ace2016wilman: what media app? xine? thats kaffeine's backend07:57
DarkWizzardarchangel_: I have no ideea I was talking to jn :)07:58
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wilmanyea i think thats the one07:58
morphadohas anyone a solution to the problem of kubuntu 6.10 shutdown07:58
archangel_DarkWizzard:  lol sorry07:58
DarkWizzardmorphado: I think I saw it on ubuntuforums.com07:58
Ace2016wilman: well reinstall xine, or install mplayer and watch it in that07:58
morphadoi even tried the acpi=force but it does not work07:58
DarkWizzardsearch for edgy shutdown07:58
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jnHello Dark Wizzard...  Thakns for your help, I don't understand how to 'mount' other IDE drives07:58
wilmanok07:59
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DarkWizzardwell I07:59
DarkWizzardI'm trying to figure it out myself07:59
DarkWizzard:)07:59
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DarkWizzardman mount is helpfull07:59
ohtDarkWizzard: yeah, nearly all commands have 'man' pages, which are just big long mouthful documents of every option and stuff07:59
DarkWizzardyeah08:00
DarkWizzardthats why they are helpfull08:00
archangel_can anyone help me access my SD card?08:00
morphadodark it tried without help08:00
ohtbrother archangel: is it being read through a USB interface?08:00
wilmani wish these dependencies where better orderd08:01
archangel_yes,08:01
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ohtarchangel: does it usually show up in windows as a removable drive?08:01
oht(or have you ever used it in windows)08:01
archangel_it tells me      "mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"08:01
ohtare you root?08:02
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stdin!pmount08:02
ubotupmount: mount removable devices as normal user. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.13-1build1 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 588 kB08:02
archangel_yes08:02
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ohtstdin seems to have an excellent solution ;)08:02
ohttry using sdb, or sdb108:02
ohtetc...08:02
stdinI always do :P08:02
wilmanarr it still does'nt work08:02
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archangel_sdb?08:03
DarkWizzardstdin: your my man :)08:03
DarkWizzardthanks bro08:03
stdinnp DarkWizzard :)08:04
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wilmanin kaffeine it says this08:04
wilmanThe source can't be read.08:04
wilmanMaybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (/dev/dvd)08:04
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archangel_oht: what is sdb?08:05
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ohtarchangel: just another disk device08:07
ohtmy removable drives mount as sdb08:07
archangel_how do I do that?08:07
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ohtarchangel: go to root, and type 'lsusb'08:08
jlowellhas anyone gotten good 3d games that have native linux versions to play on ubuntu?08:08
archangel_ok08:08
ohtand see if there is an entry for the card reader08:08
ohtjlowell: ut2004! :D08:08
jlowellI cant get enemy territory, enemylines, googleearth to run at all08:08
ohtneverwinter nights too08:08
ohtjlowell: are your graphics drivers installed?08:08
oht(ati or nvidia drivers)08:08
jlowelloht yes, nvidia, allways get seg faults or08:09
jlowellum something ll08:09
jlowell1108:09
archangel_what next08:09
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ohtweird08:10
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ohti know they released a new driver recently08:10
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humeis there a way to have knetworkmanager connect to a WEP encrypted WLAN without having to type in wallet password each time?08:11
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Bubba_Gumpbrother oht08:13
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ohtBrother bubba08:15
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Captain_Haddock!dhcp08:15
ubotudhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 308 kB08:15
archangel_anyone know how to access media card readers?08:15
Captain_Haddock!dhcpd08:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dhcpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:15
archangel_I cant mount my card for some reason08:15
tony_how do you install rpm's on kubuntu ?08:16
Captain_Haddock!adept08:16
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto08:16
Captain_Haddocktony_ ^08:16
tony_so adapt can install rpm's ?08:16
stdintony_: no, adept can't08:17
stdintony_: use alien to convert them08:17
stdin!alien08:17
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)08:17
tony_i downed programs called lightscribe .. it should integrate into K3B to burn lables directly from your cd /dvd onto your disk but is in RPM08:17
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Captain_Haddockoh08:18
Captain_Haddocksorry08:18
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jlowelloht: how do I check what version of nvidia im using?08:18
rEvolution27i know this is a stupid question but how do you instal firefox?08:19
tony_alien seems to be cool program to package for kubuntu :)08:19
Captain_Haddock!firefox08:19
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins08:19
rEvolution27tnx08:19
mm112hey, does anyone have a link where i can look up stuff about local security...someone had the bright idea that we should use ubuntu where i work...its a school08:20
tony_using linux is always a bright idea :)08:20
mm112normally i would agree, but i have no idea how to do local security :-/08:21
VR_does the alternative cd have the gnome/kde desktop or do you have to apt-get it08:21
jlowellanyone tell me how to find out what version of nvidia I'm running currently?08:21
ohtjlowell: is there an entry in the menu for 'NVidia X Server Settings'08:22
archangel_hmmm, according to the forums I have checked out, Ubuntu has not been very compatible to card readers08:22
tony_i leave that to gurus in this chat :) .. my security ain that good ..08:22
ohtshould have a green nv icon08:22
stdinVR_: alternate CD is the same as the desktop one, except it's a text installer, it's not the server CD, it installes either Gnome KDE or XFCE, depending on the CD08:22
jlowelloht the kmenu?08:22
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VR_stdin: so, it doesn't have a live cd session, correct?08:23
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stdinVR_: correct, if you've installed debian before, it's the same08:23
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VR_stdin: Awesome. thanks08:23
stdinnp08:23
VR_it's the old way of installing ubuntu, kind of08:24
jlowelloht no there isnt08:24
stdinyeah, before the liveCD was also the install cd08:24
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ohttry typing nv into a console and then tab to autocomplete08:24
ohtsee if there's anything that comes up for nvidia08:24
jlowellnvidia-bug-report.sh  nvidia-settings08:25
jlowellnvidia-glx-config     nvidia-xconfig08:25
humeanyone got advice on how to avoid having to type in wallet password on every boot on an encrypted wlan, with knetworkmanager?08:26
nixternalhume: nope, i have to do it as well :)08:26
ohtnvidia-settings08:26
ohtthen08:26
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humenixternal, there used to be the network-admin, but that seems to be obsolete, right?08:27
nixternalfrom what i have seen, yes08:27
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nixternali have kwallet asking for all kinds of passwords, well one password for quite a few things08:27
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humenixternal, you know how to set the /network/interfaces manually, then?08:27
nixternalkontact/kmail, knetman, and something else08:27
bele__yes, kubuntu dapper runs fine in vmware08:27
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nixternalhume: yes08:27
nixternalon this lappy though i can't use knetworkmanager, using ndiswrapper :(08:28
humenixternal, is there a wiki page or something? it is how to set the encryption password that I am unsure about08:28
Captain_HaddockI just installed the dhcpd3 packages, but it's not starting up. syslog says:08:28
Captain_Haddockdhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth1 (10.0.0.1).08:29
Captain_HaddockWhere do I fix this?08:29
nixternalhume, you can search knetworkmanager either on ubuntuforums.org, kubuntuforums.net or the wikis08:29
nixternaldon't know though off-hand08:29
humenixternal, ok, thx...i08:29
humei08:29
nixternali08:29
humei'll give it another try08:29
nixternalhehe08:29
hume:)08:29
nixternalthe damn ' is to close to return/enter08:30
humethe ' is too close to the enter key08:30
nixternal;_08:30
nixternalerrr, :)08:30
hume:)08:30
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durontuxhola08:31
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stdinCaptain_Haddock: looked at /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf ?08:37
wilmanmy 5.1 sound works, but when I set xine to play 5.1 it does'nt work08:37
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LBBHi all! Simple question: how do i re-enable the master-volume slider (kmix) in the taskbar, next to klipper?08:41
weatherheadis kmix running?08:41
tony_OK, i converted RPM to Deb format , and installed the program .. nothing works . lol.08:42
LBBwhen i run kmix i get the window, not the aplet08:42
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weatherheadhow are you starting kmix?08:43
stdinLBB: make sure you have the settings right in kmix08:43
HymnToLifeLBB, Settings > Configure KMix > Dock into panel08:43
FlasherMaChello08:43
LBBHymnToLife: found that, but doesn't do anything08:43
weatherheadyou'll also want enable system tray volume control08:43
FlasherMaCi have installed ubunto but found i like the KDE better08:44
LBBweatherhead done that aswell, started kmix via konsole08:44
Captain_Haddockstdin: trying to fix it there thanks. What's the point of gdhcpd then? :P08:44
FlasherMaCmy system seems to hang for a sec every 30 secs or so08:44
Captain_Haddock!nat08:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:44
Ace2016FlasherMaC: tried looking at the process table in ksysguard?08:45
FlasherMaCis there an equivelent to ctl + atl + del so i can see what i have running08:45
LBBFlasherMaC the audio/movies hang, or does everything hang?08:45
FlasherMaCas you can see that was my question08:45
FlasherMaCthankyou08:45
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stdinCaptain_Haddock: no clue, been a few months since I set up a dhcp server, that was for a simple network tho, and I just edited the config file by hand08:45
Ace2016FlasherMaC: Ctrl + Esc, or press Alt+F2 and type ksysguard and press enter to get ksysguard and watch the process table08:46
FlasherMaCaudio and video goes glitchy and mouse freezes08:46
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LBBweatherhead how should i start kmix? is it relevant to the taskbar thing?08:46
weatherheadno not really08:47
Captain_Haddockstdin: ah. I used to have a SUSE box previously, and the network setup on it was amazingly simple even for a n00b like me.08:47
weatherheadthat settings thing should work08:47
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weatherheadtalking of suse, I am mainly a suse user08:47
FlasherMaC<Ace2016> thankyou i'm going to have a look now.08:47
stdinCaptain_Haddock: I'm no guru myself, I just google *everything* :P08:47
weatherheadjust installed 6.10 and see that init no longer works properly08:47
weatherheadwhat's the simple way to "init 3" ?08:48
ohttelinit 308:48
ohtin a console08:48
weatherheadheh08:48
weatherheadta08:48
Captain_Haddockstdin: :D08:48
weatherheaddoesn't appear to do anything08:49
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stdinweatherhead: used sudo?08:50
Ace2016if you go into init3 wouldn't that kill konversation? and stop this konversation?08:50
marcelokubuntu-es please08:50
weatherheaduh yes it would08:50
weatherheadand hence, since it hasn't, I haven't gone into init 308:50
bones78Is it easy to upgrade kubuntu to 6.10 from 6.06?08:50
weatherheadbut looking at the services, X only seems to get shut down in init 108:51
weatherheadhow rare08:51
Ace2016well then, ctrl + f1, and then login as yourself, then do sudo su, and then type init 3, i guess thats what i'd do08:51
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Ace2016oht: it should be the same in ubuntu and kubuntu? what do you use?08:52
HymnToLife!edgy | bones7808:52
ubotubones78: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes08:52
HymnToLifeyes, it is easy :)08:52
stdindepends if you used easyubuntu/automatix :p08:52
HymnToLifewhich you shouldn't have in the first place :p08:53
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stdinI never touch it, it's evil :)08:53
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bones78That looks great, I'l give it a shot. Thankyou all08:54
weatherheadwell08:55
weatherheadit seems a lot of trouble to go to just to install new NVIDIA drivers08:55
stdinweatherhead: how come you want runlevel 3 ?08:56
HymnToLifeweatherhead, you must be kidding, it's ridiculously easy08:56
weatherheadI'm just used to other distros that's all08:56
weatherheadit probably is hilariously easy, but I'm an ubuntu noob08:56
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marcelo_como instalo amule en linux09:07
marcelo_?09:07
HymnToLife!es | marcelo09:07
ubotumarcelo: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.09:07
daniel777marcelo09:08
daniel777metete a kubuntu-es y te explico09:08
daniel777!de | marcelo09:08
ubotumarcelo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:08
daniel777!br | marcelo09:08
ubotumarcelo: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.09:08
daniel777hahahah that's fun09:08
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daniel777!pl | marcelo09:09
ubotumarcelo: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl09:09
HymnToLife!botabuse | daniel77709:09
ubotudaniel777: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...09:09
daniel777!Bot09:09
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots09:09
daniel777nice09:09
Ace2016Is there a way to renice all processes run in a particular console? like an export command which means that say when i run make, all the things it launches will have a niceness of 5 instead of 0? but i just want this for a single konsole tab09:09
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MrBallZi'm using kernel 2.6.15-23-686 , and the one I see i can upgrade to in Adept is to   2.6.17-10-386  ... is it recomended .... is there a 2.6.17-10-686  ???09:12
daniel777how can i activate utf-8 codification :S09:13
HymnToLifeMrBallZ, You'll need to upgrade to Edgy if you want to upgrade your kernel09:14
HymnToLifeor compile it yourself09:14
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HymnToLifeand no, there is no more 686 kernel in Edgy, use the "generic" one09:14
MrBallZHymnToLife: i just upgraded to Edgy ... so why no more 686 if I can ask ... and I use generic or 386?09:16
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HymnToLifeask the Ubuntu developpers09:16
HymnToLifeand you should use generic, not 38609:16
MrBallZok09:17
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Pirate-kinganybody running a web cam??????????09:35
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fdovingPirate-king: no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:36
fdoving:)09:36
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lunchtimehi, im having some trouble getting my internet to work on Kubuntu any one available to help troubleshoot ?09:36
Captain_Haddockach! Configuring the network in kubuntu is teh suck :(09:37
pantheonanyone knows a graphical program for configuring iptables?09:37
lunchtimewould ubuntu be better ? i have both available09:37
Captain_HaddockNot to mention the service manager :/09:37
fdovingpantheon: guarddog (the simple one), fwbuilder (advanced).09:37
Captain_Haddockpantheon: firestarter perhaps?09:37
Captain_Haddocklunchtime: No idea if I can help, but you might want to provide more information.09:38
pantheonfdoving: does that advanced mean complicated?09:38
lunchtimefor some reason it wont detect my on onboard nic or expansion nic09:38
lunchtimeshould the internet work on the Live!cd before installing ?09:38
Captain_Haddocklunchtime: usually it does. What chipset?09:38
lunchtimeabit motherboard09:38
lunchtimenforce09:38
lunchtimei can get the model if needed09:39
fdovingpantheon: complicated is relative, http://www.fwbuilder.org/archives/cat_screenshots.html09:39
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Captain_Haddockpantheon: even though it's not GUI based, I found ipkungfu very simple and straightforward to set up.09:39
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pantheonI'll take a look , thanks09:40
Captain_Haddockpantheon: firestarter is simple and comes with GUI as well.09:40
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fdovinglunchtime: what kind of connection do you have to the internet? cable, adsl, isdn?09:41
lunchtimeverizon fios09:41
fdovinglunchtime: what is that?09:41
lunchtimeFIBER09:41
fdovingok.09:42
fdovingsounds cool.09:42
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fdovinglunchtime: then i guess it's regular ethernet connecting the computer?09:42
lunchtimecorrect , coming from my router , which dchp normally works on09:42
fdovinglunchtime: ok. go to KMenu -> System -> KInfoCenter09:43
fdovinglunchtime: kmenu is the K in the lower left corner.09:44
lunchtimeyes i know09:44
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lunchtimeim on the live disk now , is that ok ?09:44
fdovingthat's ok.09:44
fdovingfind 'Network Interfaces' in the list at the left side, in KInfoCenter.09:45
lunchtimeok im in09:45
lunchtimek09:45
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lunchtimeits only showing " lo "09:47
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DaSkreechHmm09:49
DaSkreechsudo depmod -a09:49
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lunchtimedaskreech: is that for me to type09:50
DaSkreechYes if you'd like09:50
DaSkreechWhen My eth cards disappeared that worked09:50
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Captain_Haddocklunchtime: are the cards working fine on your current OS?09:50
lunchtimeyep they both work09:51
lunchtimeim on my laptop right now which is next to the other computer with kubuntu on it09:51
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lunchtimeso i can be on here and work on the problem at the same time09:52
HymnToLifelunchtime, if it's only showing 'lo', I guess you need to install drivers for your NIC(s)09:52
lunchtimei thought it should have done that durning the install process09:52
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DaSkreechlunchtime: try my way from the command line09:53
lunchtimei did , it ran the command , and came back to the command line09:53
HymnToLifelunchtime, does    sudo ifconfig -a       ouput anything else than lo ?09:53
lunchtimesit009:54
HymnToLifeyou definitely need drivers09:54
HymnToLifewhat kind of NIC do you have ?09:54
lunchtimei have the one which is onboard , and a dlink card09:54
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HymnToLifeplease pastebin the output of   lspci09:55
fdovinglunchtime: sorry, had a huge memleak, that needed attention.09:55
fdovinglunchtime: inside kinfocenter, select 'PCI'09:56
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lunchtimek im there09:56
fdovinglunchtime: scroll down till you find something named 'Network controller' something.09:56
fdovingwhat's it's name and number?09:56
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fdovingHymnToLife: without internet?09:57
HymnToLifeyu don't even have an USB stick ?09:57
lunchtimei have one09:58
fdovinglunchtime: can't you find any network controller in that list?09:58
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lunchtimei dont see one09:58
fdovinglunchtime: what about 'network controller' ?09:58
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lunchtimenope09:59
lunchtimenothing mentioning network09:59
HymnToLife"Ethernet controller", rather, methinks09:59
fdovingcorrect. that's what i meant to write the second time.09:59
lunchtimenow that i think about it , i might have a spare 3com network card in another machine . would that be more likely to be auto recognized10:00
fdovinglunchtime: ethernet controller?10:00
HymnToLifelunchtime, wouldn't hurt to try10:00
fdovinglunchtime: most 3coms will be autodetected, but anything PCI should appear in that list.10:00
lunchtimei see my video card , and sound card10:01
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HymnToLifelunchtime, lspci | grep Ethernet10:01
HymnToLifeanything ?10:01
lunchtimeone sec10:01
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lunchtimenothing10:01
HymnToLifehmm10:01
lunchtimeit just came back to command line10:01
fdovingweird.10:01
HymnToLifenow THAT's weird10:02
fdovinggo for the 3com.10:02
lunchtimeim gona run down stairs and snag that card from the other machine ! brb 2 minutes10:02
Daisuke_Idoboy do i feel fortunate...  ralink 2500 :)10:02
HymnToLifesame here, Intel ipw3945 :)10:02
fdovingbcm43xx here.10:02
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fdovingCaptain_Haddock: why?10:03
HymnToLifeSuSE ? Server ?10:03
HymnToLifeyou guy must be kidding10:03
Captain_HaddockHymnToLife: just a local thinggy10:03
Captain_Haddockfdoving: setting up dhcp + nat is being a pain on kubuntu :(10:04
fdovingCaptain_Haddock: not at all.10:04
Captain_Haddock<--- being a n00b is part of the problem :P10:04
HymnToLifewhy don't you just get a router ?10:05
Captain_HaddockWhy bother, when I can do it right here... :P10:06
fdovingCaptain_Haddock: have you tried 'guidedog' and 'gdhcpd' ? (those are package names).10:06
fdovingI need to go watch a tv-show with my gf. bbl.10:06
Captain_Haddockfdoving: yep.10:06
Captain_Haddockok10:06
Captain_Haddockcheers10:06
fdovingsee you.10:07
Captain_Haddockadios10:07
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DaSkreechWhich show?10:08
notechHymnToLife: if a linux router and firewall combination are done right, it can be more secure than those bargain routers10:09
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lunchtimeok im back i have 2 cards to choose from , netgear or 3com10:11
eilker!xen10:11
ubotuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy10:11
DaSkreech3com :)10:11
DaSkreech!ps310:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:11
eilkeris xen similar to vmware ?10:11
DaSkreecheilker: no It's a hypervisor10:12
lunchtimeok be just a moment to install it ,10:12
DaSkreechThough I think the vmware server is a hypervisor as well10:12
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eilkerDaSkreech: i have vmware server, sorry but what is hypervisor ?10:12
eilkerlet me google :)10:13
DaSkreecheilker: A Virtual machine runs on top of the operating system a hypervisor runs in between the OS and the metal10:13
DaSkreechor wiki :)10:13
Ace2016!wii10:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wii - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:13
eilkeri see thank you10:13
DaSkreech!wee10:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wee - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:15
DaSkreech:-(10:15
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n8k99is someone tryin to connect to a ps3 or a wii?10:19
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notechthink they were just playing with the bot10:20
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lunchtimethe moment of truth !10:20
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berryyylis anyone have trouble with kxdocker10:21
berryyylwhen i start it it says composite not working10:21
berryyylor something like that10:21
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berryyylor is there equivalents of kxdocker that i can try? i didn't like kooldock, so it there anything else?10:21
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DaSkreechn8k99: I was trying to install on a PS310:22
n8k99oh yeah - is it going good?10:23
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DaSkreechNope :)10:24
lunchtimeWE HAVE INTERNET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!10:24
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DaSkreechDink: How's it going Dink?10:24
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blashi10:25
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lunchtimeare there any main advantages of Kubuntu over Ubuntu besides the GUI ?10:26
coreymon77!seen Whopper10:26
ubotuWhopper is on IRC right now!10:26
lunchtimethe computer is 2ghz, 1 gig of ram , 128mb videocard10:26
n8k99lunchtime: great network transparency - highly integrated applications10:27
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lunchtimeso if i have a computer that can run KDE , its worth the upgrade ?10:28
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blasjust installed kubuntu, i logged in and the screen settings res+herz probably wrong, i tried to use display setting from "start" menu but it says monitor and display module cannot be loaded. nay idea?10:28
Pirate-kinganybody use digikam?10:28
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n8k99Pirate-king: I'm a bigtime fan of digikam10:30
Pirate-kingok sees my camera10:31
Pirate-kingbut not the pics10:31
eilker!mbr10:31
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:31
n8k99digikam sees the camera?10:31
Pirate-kingyeah10:31
jerpblas, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it might fill in the blacks for you10:31
n8k99you're better off than me, I have to go to the camera using the filemanager on konqueror10:31
DaSkreechblas_: Hello?10:31
lunchtimeok im intalling kubuntu , the hd is 80gig , and it will be the only partition , how should i set it up10:32
jerpblanks rather10:32
blas_DaSkreech: yes?10:32
n8k99Pirate-king: move photos into a directory on my HD, then delete them from the camera10:32
blas_jerp: thanks10:32
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DaSkreechDid you get what jerp said?10:32
DaSkreechOk :)10:32
blas_yes iam here from the kubuntu box :)10:32
DaSkreechlunchtime: make a Home partition!!!10:33
Pirate-kingdoesn't see the photos10:33
blas_i suppose i must kill my x first then rite?10:33
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jerpthe command does it10:33
n8k99Pirate-king: do you see the camera as a folder on your desktop?10:33
DaSkreechblas_: Not really but you could10:33
malik__hi there.........is here any one using kmldonkey and can help me with my issue?10:34
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blas_DaSkreech: kk10:34
Pirate-kingok got it10:34
n8k99Pirate-king: can you open it with Konqueror?10:35
Pirate-kingnope digikam10:35
n8k99can you see the photos now?10:35
blas_DaSkreech: uhh i have some language problems in console.. any way to set console to eng? since iam hungarian it tries hungarian but its really strange :) so better to use english there10:35
Pirate-kingyeah10:35
Pirate-kingpm?10:36
froudwhy when I install apps do they not show in the applications menu? How can I make installed apps show?10:36
n8k99Pirate-king: sweet!10:36
n8k99you should be able to import them from the camera then10:36
jerpfroud, you have to add the menu command entry10:36
froudjerp: manually?10:36
jerpyes, right click on the kmenu and find edit menu10:37
eilker!alsa10:37
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin10:37
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froudjerp: I was hoping that was not the case :-)10:37
Pirate-kingI am10:37
Pirate-kingimporting them10:37
jerpeveryone does10:37
aleksanteri!xfce10:37
ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"10:37
aleksanteri!xcl10:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xcl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:37
aleksanteri-_- what was it?10:37
n8k99Pirate-king: awesome. did you install the kipiplugins?10:37
Pirate-kingnope10:38
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Pirate-kingfrom adept?10:38
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n8k99Pirate-king: you really want to do that as it gets you a good toolkit for editing the photos.10:38
n8k99yes from adept10:38
Pirate-kingok10:38
marcelohello kubuntus/es please10:38
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n8k99plus there are a couple extensions taht let you export directly from digikam to flickr ora gallery2 installation10:39
DaSkreech!es10:39
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.10:39
aleksanteri!es|marcelo10:39
ubotumarcelo: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.10:39
Pirate-kingis that how you spell it?10:39
Pirate-kingkipiplugins10:39
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n8k99I think it's kipi-plugins, but if you just type kipi in the search field of adept it'll turn up10:39
humen8k99, how do you export from digikam to gallery2?10:40
eilker!visudo10:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about visudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:40
n8k99you have to have the kipiplugins installed10:40
eilker!visido10:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about visido - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:40
n8k99hume: then under File > Export > Gallery210:40
intelikeyin the repos there is a package  "rkhunter"  which is supposed to check the system for malware/rootkits    i find it odd that it pukes out this warning on startup.10:41
intelikeyRootkit Hunter 1.2.7 is running10:41
intelikeyDetermining OS... Unknown10:41
intelikeyWarning: This operating system is not fully supported!10:41
blas_whats the name of the english code for console? now its LANG="hu_HU.UTF-8"10:41
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n8k99hume: you'll have to do some configuration the first time you use it- login and password stuff10:41
DaSkreech!info krecipe10:41
ubotuPackage krecipe does not exist in any distro I know10:41
DaSkreech!info krecipes10:41
ubotukrecipes: recipes manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0~beta1-1 (edgy), package size 735 kB, installed size 2296 kB10:41
humen8k99,  ah....remote gallery?10:42
intelikeyblas_ en_US10:42
n8k99yeah I think that's it10:42
intelikeyblas_ or  C10:42
n8k99lemme check quick10:42
n8k99hume: Album > Export > Remote Gallery10:43
humen8k99, great! just what i wanted..:)10:44
blas_intelikey: hm export LANG="en_US" , relogged and its hun again :/10:44
intelikeyblas_ you can not export beyond the running shell10:45
DaSkreech!PS3 is Installing Ubuntu directly on the PS3 is as yet a difficult procedure but can be made easier by installing Fedora as outlined at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316047. !fluxbuntu is working on being a PS3 enabled Distro. Maybe drop in #fluxbuntu-devel to see what's going on?10:45
Captain_Haddockfdoving: I take all that back :P10:46
n8k99hume: it works pretty well, and causes its a kipiplugin it works for other photosoftware10:46
Captain_Haddockwell, most of it :)10:46
blas_intelikey: how may i cchange it then10:46
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intelikeyblas_ /etc/environment10:46
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intelikeyblas_ for a user only change   ~/.environment   might work    i never tried.10:47
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somerville32DaSkreech, Thats not true. Sony e-mailed us and gave us a nice how-to which I believe is now on the wiki.10:49
DaSkreechsomerville32: Eh?10:49
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somerville32re: PS3 factoid suggestion10:50
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humen8k99, hrm...i cannot log into my gallery - do you know what port it uses? if it is a firewall issue10:52
humen8k99, that is, cannot log in via digikam10:53
n8k99hume: aaaahhh, one sec10:53
intelikeyblas_ a good example of trying to export to a parent is      echo -e '#!/bin/sh \n\nexport Q=1 \necho "$Q test 1"' > testing.exports ;chmod 755 testing.exports ;./testing.exports ; echo "$Q test 2"10:54
intelikeyit simply can't be done in linux as far as i know.10:55
blas_intelikey: edited /etc/envio.. stil declare -x LANG="hu_HU.UDF-8"10:55
blas_intelikey: moment ill check what u just wrote10:55
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humen8k99, my firewall seems to be disabled, so it would not be that - can there be other configurations?10:55
n8k99hume: you have to make certain it is connected to http://www.yoursite.com/gallery-folder/main.php10:56
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berryyylhow do i make it so that newly opened webpage displays the last webpage i was on instead of the home page10:56
DaSkreechsomerville32: A link would be nice :)10:57
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blas_intelikey: 1 test 110:58
blas_intelikey:  test 110:58
blas_2 i mean10:58
intelikeyblas_ hmmm you might have something like  /etc/rc?.d/??locales.sh   or some such that overrides the default environment     also you said "<blas_> whats the name of the english code for console?"  <<< key word being "console" as opposed to "konsole" which would be a terminal not a console.     if you meant terminal  that's an Xorg/kde issue.10:58
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humen8k99, i copy the address even, from the browser... but it says the address probabluy is wrong...?10:59
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DaSkreechsomerville32: Best I can find is the Forums10:59
intelikeyblas_ yes the missing '1'  on test 2  proves that the running shell did not recieve the export.   you can edit testing.exports   and see what i mean.11:00
blas_intelikey: no its not the grafical thing :)11:00
somerville32DaSkreech, If it isn't in the wiki then I'll need to hunt it down11:00
somerville32DaSkreech, Send me an e-mail ( cody-somerville@ubuntu.com ) to remind me.11:00
intelikeyblas_ then if locales is not overriding the stuff in /etc/env*    idk.11:00
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DaSkreechsomerville32: Alright or give me a pointer to where to start hunting so I can help11:00
intelikeyand locals can do that.11:00
somerville32DaSkreech, I'll have to e-mail someone else (and I'm running out the door so I can't do it right now)11:01
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DaSkreechok11:01
animimotushello11:01
animimotussomeone can paste me his ~/.bashrc please ?11:01
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DaSkreechsomerville32: Done11:02
intelikeyblas_ sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales          maybe.11:03
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intelikeyblas_    or even  belocs11:05
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n8k99hume: what's the address you are using?11:06
humewww.vista.se/g211:06
blas_intelikey: well "dpkg-reconfigure locales" does nothing just told me all lang_LANG.. is up-to-date11:06
n8k99that's the whole link?11:07
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humen8k99, well, main.php  after that11:08
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n8k99hume: do you have an installation of gallery on your website?11:08
humen8k99, yes...11:08
intelikeyblas_ did you try dpkg-reconfigure belocs         i'm not sure it will help.11:08
humen8k99, shouldn't I?11:09
n8k99hume: oh yes, that's how it works11:09
blas_intelikey: no such pkg :/11:09
humen8k99, yeah....that's what I wanted....11:09
n8k99hume: for instance, gallery and wordpress work together on my website, http://eckenrodehouse.net11:10
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intelikeybut it sounds like a locales issue.   if /etc/environment is being ignored it has to be some    "locales"  package doing it.   possably even in the  /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh    file  but    idk.11:10
humebut easy export from digikam would be very very nice11:10
n8k99hume: then basically the kipiplugin enables me to upload to the gallery2 appplication from digikam11:10
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intelikeyanother issue with rkhunter   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39370/plain/11:10
silvaniahi, anyone able to give a advice on a good dictionary for linux, simular to "clue on windows"? I need norwegian-english-german-italian :)11:10
n8k99on my server11:10
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intelikeyoh wait  it looks like i might have caught that mirror in a reset.  it's working now.11:11
humen8k99, ah, you have gallery integrated.. into what?11:12
n8k99hume: wordpress11:12
humewhat's that?...11:12
n8k99wordpress is a blogging/cms software11:12
n8k99it writes all the pages11:12
n8k99hume:defines the styles for the page, etc11:12
humenice...:)11:13
silvaniadoes anyone know? when i try google is just end up with a trillion pages for dictionaries online11:13
humen8k99, maybe I got it worng and used the address for the gallery, not the album....?11:13
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n8k99hume: yeah it's _your_ album not the organization that makes Gallery that the plugin gives you access to11:14
n8k99;-)11:14
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animimotussomeone can paste me his ~/.bashrc please ?11:14
intelikeyi still get        Determining OS... Unknown11:14
intelikeyWarning: This operating system is not fully supported!11:15
n8k99hume: the plugin takes the place of Gallery Remote from menalto11:15
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DaSkreech!paste11:15
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:15
humen8k99, no... even if I use the album page it wont work - but: do I need to have a module enabled in gallery2?11:16
n8k99hume: that might help11:16
DaSkreechanimimotus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39371/11:16
intelikeyand of course this beautiful RED warning "   Checking for passwordless user accounts... Warning!11:16
humen8k99, what module?11:16
n8k99hume: remote or gallery remote11:17
humeok11:17
animimotusDaSkreech: thank you a lot11:17
DaSkreechSure11:17
humesounds very wise..:)11:17
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humen8k99, thx....got to install that. thats for tomorrow...thx!11:18
intelikeyheh    Your system contains some unknown version numbers. Please run Rootkit Hunter11:18
intelikeywith the --update parameter or fill in the contact form (www.rootkit.nl)11:18
n8k99hume:no problem11:18
CrellHi all.  First question, is general Ubuntu-family stuff better off here or in #Ubuntu? :-)11:18
blas_intelikey: well made a line to .bashrc with " export LANG="C" ", it works now11:18
intelikeyi had just done that.  and it's still telling me to --update it   :)11:18
Crelleg, stuff to do with PHP packages.  I figure that's not flavor-specific.11:18
DaSkreechCrell: Eh?11:19
intelikeyblas_ yes.  you could in /etc/profile  for system wide.11:19
DaSkreechCrell: You mean non Gnome stuff?11:19
blas_intelikey: ah nice ill take a look11:19
intelikeybut that's what /etc/environment is for....11:19
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coreymon77Crell: i dont understand what you mean11:20
CrellDaSkreech: No, PHP packages and server-oriented stuff.11:20
coreymon77file:///home/coreymon/Desktop/snowbot/remote.ini11:20
coreymon77file:///home/coreymon/Desktop/snowbot/script.ini11:20
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coreymon77whoops11:20
coreymon77wrong pastye11:20
DaSkreechCrell: Right so non Gnome stuff :)11:20
intelikeyblas_ maybe   add    . /etc/environment    to /etc/profile    and   export LANG      ?11:20
CrellStuff that doesn't have to do with KDE or Gnome, but still with Ubuntu packages and versions and such.11:20
DaSkreechYes you can go ahaed with that here11:20
CrellEr, yeah.  (Sorry, missed the non. <g>)11:21
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CrellI see that phpunit2 is slated for feisty.  Is there support for it, official or otherwise, in edgy?11:21
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CrellI'm a bit surprised that it's not in edgy given that it's been out for some time now.11:21
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intelikeywell i've got work.   maybe back later.11:22
DaSkreech!info phpunit211:23
ubotuPackage phpunit2 does not exist in any distro I know11:23
DaSkreech!info phpunit2 feisty11:23
ubotuphpunit2: Unit testing suite for PHP5. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.6-2 (feisty), package size 47 kB, installed size 712 kB11:23
DaSkreechCrell: Nope :)11:23
DaSkreechWhich means you probably want to be bugging people in #ubuntu+1 :)11:24
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Crell+1?11:24
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CrellI have not heard of this channel.11:24
DaSkreechYes :)11:24
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CrellHm.  Why would bugging people in the Feisty channel be appropriate for an Edgy question? :-)11:25
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DaSkreechCause the package doesn't exist in Edgy?11:25
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Crellhrm.11:26
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Captain_Haddock!resolution11:31
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:31
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mattikCan I install edubuntu some other oartition as kubuntu and get both running with same grub11:33
mattikpartition11:34
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Captain_Haddock!java11:35
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository11:35
Crellmattik: You should be able to dual-boot anything as long as they're in separate partitions.11:36
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mattikCrell: yhank you :) I can use same swap of course?11:37
CrellThat should be fine.11:37
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mattikCrell: Thank you :)11:37
soulriderhi everyone :)11:37
Captain_Haddock!commercial11:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about commercial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:39
Daisuke_Idoevening soulrider11:39
Captain_Haddock!multiverse11:39
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:39
Captain_HaddockDo I need the deb-src repositories enabled?11:41
fdovingnot unless you use 'apt-get source'.11:42
CrellOnly if you want to download source code.11:42
CrellIt doesn't hurt anything if you have them anyway, though.11:42
fdovinghurts download size..11:42
Captain_Haddockok, thanks11:42
Captain_Haddock(disabled)11:43
fdovingCaptain_Haddock: did you figure out dhcp+nat?11:43
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Captain_Haddockfdoving: yes, thanks. (I sent you a message earlier)11:44
Captain_Haddockfdoving: it was all pebkac of course.11:44
Captain_Haddock:)11:44
fdovinggood thing :)11:44
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faLUCEHi, is it possible to launch a program from a .sh script and redirect its STDOUT in a new window? thnks11:46
somerville32fdoving: It doesn't hurt the download size... it doesn't affect it at all11:46
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Captain_Haddocksomerville32: not even of the package list?11:47
fdovingsomerville32: it does. for updates.11:47
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fdovingfor 'apt-get updates', that is.11:47
somerville32fdoving: How so?11:47
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somerville32Oh11:48
somerville32Sorry, apt-get updates11:48
somerville32Yeah11:48
somerville32:P11:48
fdovinginstead of downloading just Packages.gz (index of binary packages) you also download Sources.gz (index of soruce packages)11:48
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somerville32fdoving: Right11:48
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mohammedguys , how to install wolfenstein on kubuntu ?11:49
somerville32!wolfenstein11:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wolfenstein - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:49
somerville32Hmmm... I know there is a wiki page somewhere11:49
faLUCEHi, is it possible to launch a program from a .sh script and redirect its STDOUT in a new window? thnks11:50
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somerville32faLUCE: What do you mean by "redirect its STDOUT in a _new window_"?11:50
somerville32Do you mean _to_ a new window?11:50
faLUCEsomerville32: yes11:50
somerville32faLUCE: Yes, it is possible.11:51
faLUCEsomerville32: how? :)11:51
somerville32Most terminals have a flag that allows you to launch an application when you launch the terminal11:51
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faLUCEso, with Konsole which is the flag?11:52
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somerville32faLUCE: For more info about how to do it with konsole, run: konsole --help11:53
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faLUCEfound it. thnks somerville3211:54
somerville32You're welcome faLUCE  :)11:54
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computer!dock11:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:55
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balsamic_chickenis there a list of docker programs, is there any besides kxdocker, kooldock, and kiba-dock?11:56
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fdovingbalsamic_chicken: you can probably find more if you search http://kde-apps.org11:57
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balsamic_chickenfdoving k thx11:57
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cafyhi all12:01
faLUCEsomerville32: do you know a terminal with some pretty editing facilities?12:01
somerville32What do you mean by editing facilities?12:01
petrosis it possible to run the xterm in a specific directory?12:01
somerville32petros: Yes.12:02
petros it alsways starts in my home12:02
petrosand i dont find a param12:02
faLUCEwell: if I have to manipulate the stdout with konsole, basically i can do only a cut&paste. I would like something more (i.e: text finding etc.)12:02
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petrossomerville32: how?12:03
somerville32faLUCE: You could pipe it to the pager12:03
faLUCE(ok: a txt finder is in Konsole too, but I would like some nicer options....)12:03
faLUCE(maybe is there a gtk konsole? or a qt konsole?)12:03
somerville32petros: Hmm... maybe you can't12:04
petros-.-12:05
petroskonsole has this --workdir option12:05
somerville32petros: Yup12:06
somerville32Oh wait12:06
somerville32I see a way12:06
somerville32Oh nvm12:07
somerville32lol12:07
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petros xterm -e 'cd tmp; bash'12:08
petros:)12:08
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faLUCEanother question: is it possible to set the max number of displayed lines, in Konsole? i can't find the option....12:11

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