[12:15] <michael20la> Stalk3r: sorry, no
[12:15] <Schuenemann> changing the volume of headphones in kmix does not affect anything
[12:15] <arschkind> make /sysinfo
[12:15] <arschkind> Sysinfo for 'kubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon64X2DualCore4200+ at 2211 MHz (4425 bogomips), , RAM: 835/1010MB, 123 proc's, 8.34min up
[12:15] <Schuenemann> !kmix
[12:15] <ubotu> kmix: sound mixer applet for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 366 kB, installed size 1208 kB
[12:16] <Schuenemann> arschkind: can you disable that sysinfo stuff?
[12:16] <arschkind> yes I can but I don't know if I want
[12:17] <Schuenemann> I don't think anybody is interested in that
[12:20] <apecat> hmm what is the process name for that power management thingie in the sys tray of the default kubuntu desktop?
[12:20] <fdoving> apecat: guidance-power-manager.py
[12:21] <fdoving> apecat: might be without .py
[12:24] <apecat> fdoving: without .py. thanks :)
[12:28] <nils_> hello
[12:30] <nils_> whats going on??
[12:33] <nibi> Can anyone tell me whats the best instant messaging client for linux? i only use msn
[12:33] <elknof3> nibi: ams
[12:33] <elknof3> amsn*
[12:34] <nibi> elknof3: thanks! checking it out
[12:34] <elknof3> is in your packges
[12:36] <Schuenemann> how can get the volume of my headphones higher?
[12:36] <elknof3> nibi: but i think the messaging client is gaim or kopete
[12:36] <Schuenemann> he only wants msn, amsn is the best
[12:37] <genii> heh :) 8 machines headlessly autoinstalling and top shows cpu0 97.9% idle cpu1 99.8% idle
[12:37] <genii> woohoo :)
[12:37] <Schuenemann> genii: how can I make the volume of these damn headphones higher?
[12:38] <genii> Plug them in the headphone jack of your extrnally powered speakers? ;)
[12:38] <Schuenemann> really?
[12:38] <genii> Schuenemann Well perhaps see how the mixer is set by right-click on speaker icon
[12:38] <Schuenemann> it's maxed already
[12:38] <genii> It is in there somewhere
[12:39] <Schuenemann> and so is it in amarok
[12:39] <genii> :(
[12:39] <Schuenemann> actually, in kmix, altering the headphones does not change anything
[12:39] <Schuenemann> only master does
[12:39] <genii> Hmm perhaps it is something like un-muting some input source then
[12:41] <Schuenemann> hey, that worked
[12:41] <Schuenemann> PCM, whatever that is
[12:41] <genii> There ya go :)
[12:42] <Schuenemann> !pcm
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <Schuenemann> thanks
[12:42] <Schuenemann> now I can get deaf
[12:42] <genii> heh :)
[12:43] <genii> By my current calculations if i had enough electrical breakers to support it I could netboot a full network segment of 254 computers without much of a dent in the server :)
[12:44] <Schuenemann> :-O
[12:44] <genii> which is an ancient dual 667 P3
[12:44] <cloakable> Heh
[12:46] <genii> 2 x20amp circuits here. Thinking: 120x20=2400 watts x2 =4800 watts max drain. So with no monitors at peak what can your average system draw? 200 watts?
[12:47] <Schuenemann> beats me
[12:47] <genii> I'm thinking 24 boxes may not be unreasonable
[12:47] <cloakable> Mine can draw 400W :)
[12:48] <Schuenemann> 550W
[12:48] <genii> *average* system LOL
[12:48] <Schuenemann> and it has neon lights too
[12:48] <genii> eg: Crappy old Dell Optiplex gx110
[12:48] <cloakable> genii: The average system is what can run XP well :P
[12:49] <genii> Hmm I have several open I'll look at the wattage rating on PS
[12:49] <kyle_> Hey there
[12:50] <genii> 145 watts
[12:50] <cloakable> Heh
[12:51] <genii> someone have a calc handy? I'm on command line. Divide 4800 by 145 and let me know the result please
[12:51] <Ace2016> Hi all
[12:51] <Ace2016> Anyone know where the wishlist for the next version is?
[12:51] <genii> Better wireless drivers and wlan manager LOL
[12:51] <Ace2016> I want to request that qtcurve be the main theme because it ties all the apps together nicely and it looks very good too
[12:51] <Schuenemann> 33,10
[12:51] <evox_> I need help installing java
[12:52] <refus3d> evox_: ill help
[12:52] <Schuenemann> evox_: JRE or JDK ?
[12:52] <genii> Schuenemann 331 ?
[12:52] <excitatory> is there a way to adjust the clock so that it displays: Thurs YYYY.MM.DD HH:MM?  (Right now it's stuck on this: YYYY.MM.DD Thursday HH:MM, and I would like the day to _at least_ be on the other side of the date if possible)
[12:52] <Schuenemann> no, 33
[12:52] <evox_> JRE
[12:52] <evox_> I just got The latest Kubuntu installed
[12:52] <genii> Ah, OK :) Thx a lot
[12:52] <Schuenemann> you want 5 or 6?
[12:52] <evox_> Then I wanted to install Limewire
[12:52] <refus3d> you weant 6
[12:52] <genii> so 32 and server cool cool
[12:52] <refus3d> do you dev?
[12:52] <evox_> then I dont have the newest and latest Java
[12:52] <Schuenemann> guess not, he wants JRE
[12:52] <evox_> and Im a linux newbie
[12:53] <evox_> so... please help
[12:53] <Schuenemann> you can install 5 using apt-get
[12:53] <kyle_> Not that I'm aware of excitatory
[12:53] <evox_> Can you please tell me what to type into the console?
[12:53] <Schuenemann> what is the first thing to type in apt-get? update or upgrade?
[12:53] <excitatory> kyle_: that's rather strange that kde of all desktops would not have *that* option, no?
[12:54] <excitatory> Schuenemann: always update, then upgrade
[12:54] <Schuenemann> thx
[12:54] <Schuenemann> evox_: sudo apt-get update
[12:54] <kyle_> Here's my question:  used to be when I put an audio CD in the drive, I could click the icon and see the audio files.  It even had nifty (pseudo) directories where I could copy mp3/ogg versions of the music over.  Now... there's nothing.  I can still rip, but exploring it with Konq shows no files.  Thanks for any help you can give
[12:54] <excitatory> Schuenemann: update grabs a new list of packages and checks if any need to be updated.. and upgrade does just that.
[12:54] <Schuenemann> humm
[12:55] <evox_> Ok now its given me a list of things
[12:55] <dwidmann> excitatory: right click on the clock applet, Date and Time format. Play with that to get it the way you want
[12:55] <Schuenemann> genii: I just broke the calculator
[12:56] <evox_> What do I do now?
[12:56] <Schuenemann> evox_: the sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:56] <excitatory> kyle_: sounds like you either have in a data cd (or enhanced audio cd, i.e., multi-session disc) or something has gone wrong with konq, possibly the profile.. but i'm not too sure about that.
[12:56] <lynucs> anyone coudl help with krusader and thumbnails?
[12:56] <evox_> evox@evox-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:56] <evox_> Reading package lists... Done
[12:56] <evox_> Building dependency tree
[12:56] <evox_> Reading state information... Done
[12:56] <evox_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:56] <evox_> evox@evox-desktop:~$
[12:57] <evox_> Thats what it tells me
[12:57] <nibi> elknof3: does kopete let you see users who have removed you from their contact list like aMSN?
[12:57] <kyle_> Thanks excitatory.  I have a theory...I have Home on a separate partition.  I regularly reinstall kubuntu over its partition, but get to keep my settings because .KDE is still the same in home.  I wonder if something died when I moved to Edgy
[12:57] <Schuenemann> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[12:57] <excitatory> dwidmann: i have.. go look.. i bet you can't put the day of the week in front of the date.
[12:58] <dwidmann> excitatory: Well, lets see if I can then
[12:58] <evox_> it says it cant find the package
[12:58] <Schuenemann> !universe | evox_
[12:58] <ubotu> evox_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:59] <excitatory> kyle_: well.. could be.. you can always rename ~/.kde and test it.. or test w/ a new user.. and while we're at it, why would one reinstall instead of dist-upgrading?
[12:59] <lynucs> guys, how can i make krusader to show thumbnails?? is it possible? if not, then how can i make krusader to show videofiles in preview?
[12:59] <Schuenemann> you have to add universe and multiverse to your repositories
[12:59] <Schuenemann> evox_: take a look at that link, please
[12:59] <Linux_Galore> kyle_: did you run dpkg --configure -a
[12:59] <dwidmann> excitatory: It's all appearing in the same area for me ... three lines, time on the first, day next, then date
[01:00] <nibi> does aMSN have any unique features which make it worth using instead of kopete?
[01:00] <Schuenemann> nibi: it looks a lot like msn
[01:00] <kyle_> exitatory: that's a fair question.  The most recent time it was because I had made some hardware changes and it wouldn't boot...reinstalling seemed easiest.  I'll keep dist-upgrade in mind for next time.  Thanks for your help.
[01:00] <Schuenemann> and I don't think kopete has webcam and other stuff
[01:00] <excitatory> nibi: video support.. that's it.
[01:01] <nibi> i've heard you can tell who has blocked you and removed u from their list in aMSN
[01:01] <nibi> is that true or just urban legend
[01:01] <Schuenemann> yeah, it's true
[01:01] <kyle_> I haven't, Linux_Galore.  Should I try that now?
[01:01] <Schuenemann> at least for removed
[01:01] <Schuenemann> blocked, I believe not
[01:01] <nibi> sweet action!
[01:01] <nibi> screw kopete in that case
[01:01] <Linux_Galore> kyle_: yes, it makes sure that all the config scripts are run
[01:01] <Schuenemann> but kopete might have that too, since gaim has too
[01:01] <excitatory> nibi: well.. you can always keep amsn installed and check it when you're paranoid about your fragile relationships :D
[01:02] <Linux_Galore> kyle_: its usually advisable in updates
[01:02] <Linux_Galore> on*
[01:02] <genii> gaim rocks :)
[01:02] <kyle_> Thanks, I'll go give it a try.  Thanks for everyone's help and I hope you all have a good evening
[01:02] <nibi> excitatory: roflmao
[01:02] <Schuenemann> haha
[01:02] <Schuenemann> kopete is (or was) very ugly
[01:02] <Schuenemann> if you're using only msn, amsn
[01:03] <Linux_Galore> Im not a fan of kopete
[01:03] <Schuenemann> if using other im's, gaim
[01:03] <nibi> cool, thanks for the indo
[01:03] <nibi> info
[01:03] <genii> Yeah I use 4 IM types plus IRC plus sometimes TeamSpeak plugin
[01:03] <Linux_Galore> I like Konversation though
[01:03] <Schuenemann> I had ICQ, but nobody around here uses it anymore
[01:03] <Linux_Galore> for irc
[01:03] <Schuenemann> I still have my 6-digit uin, though :)
[01:04] <dwidmann> Speaking of Kopete, I seem to have bad luck with it ... memory leaks galore .... currently clocking in at 257MB used (VMRSS) by Kopete alone.
[01:04] <nibi> woa, thats not good
[01:04] <excitatory> dwidmann: so you're saying you were able to do it?
[01:04] <Linux_Galore> dwidmann: report a bug
[01:04] <genii> Schuenemann :) I had one years ago but forgot the password perhaps 6 months later
[01:04] <Schuenemann> :-/
[01:04] <elknof3> nibi: i dont know if kopete let u see that information... but gaim do
[01:04] <genii> My current # I think since 98 or so
[01:04] <Schuenemann> I had a calculator 6 minutes ago, too
[01:04] <excitatory> yea.. i'm not a big fan of kopete for that reason.. as nice as kopete looks, gaim is far more mature.
[01:04] <Ace2016> I have the same password for all my email addresses, and the same passes for every website login
[01:04] <dwidmann> Linux_Galore: I think I will
[01:05] <Ace2016> see that way i'll never forget them
[01:05] <Ace2016> :)
[01:05] <dwidmann> excitatory: I'm not saying I couldn't do it :O
[01:05] <brandon_> gah, cedega won't install
[01:05] <nibi> elknof3: isn't gaim better for gnome? i am using kde
[01:05] <brandon_> nibi, kopete
[01:05] <brandon_> it's good
[01:05] <Linux_Galore> dwidmann: your helping them by reporting a bug
[01:05] <dwidmann> I know, I've reported a few against Kopete before
[01:05] <Schuenemann> nibi: if you're using only MSN, go for aMSN
[01:06] <Schuenemann> take a look at the screenshots, it looks a lot like MSN
[01:06] <genii> There needs to be some IM equivelent of grub
[01:06] <nibi> schuenemann: thanks, thats what i just installed a second ago and i must agree its pretty cool
[01:06] <brandon_> can't install wine, and can't install cedega without freezes
[01:06] <excitatory> nibi: gaim or any other gtk/gnome app works in kde.. it just doesn't integrate that well.. however.. there are ways to make it visually integrate.. and things like gaim.. it fits in nicely into my kde desktop.
[01:06] <genii> Grand Unified IM perhaps
[01:06] <Schuenemann> grub?
[01:06] <Schuenemann> there are many... or not?
[01:06] <genii> Schuenemann Grand Unified Bootloader LOL
[01:07] <Schuenemann> gaim has a lot of protocols, including some I never heard of
[01:07] <Schuenemann> gagu gadu
[01:07] <Schuenemann> gadu gadu*
[01:07] <evox_>  ok I added Multiverse
[01:07] <Schuenemann> wtf is that?
[01:07] <genii> Jabber rocks
[01:07] <evox_> then now I    hit fetcch updates
[01:07] <evox_> and its insstalling the updates and packages
[01:07] <Schuenemann> evox_: after you're done, try to install JRE again
[01:08] <excitatory> Schuenemann: it's a polish IM network
[01:08] <Schuenemann> humm
[01:08] <genii> Is there some telnet plugin for gaim?
[01:08] <evox_> ok
[01:09] <Yakaty> hello
[01:09] <cloakable> genii: telnet? o.o
[01:10] <genii> Yeah then you could tunnel ssh over it
[01:10] <excitatory> genii: first... why are you using telnet.. and second, why would you need to access it from gaim?
[01:10] <cloakable> genii: :P
[01:10] <Schuenemann> more likely firefox will have
[01:10] <Yakaty> I'm trying to install kubuntu 6.10 and when it first boots up I press install, the loading screen comes up and then it dumps me into busybox saying "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[01:11] <cloakable> genii: I'd prefer tunneling telnet over ssh :P
[01:11] <Yakaty> if I then do a "ls /dev/hd*" it only comes up with hda
[01:11] <Yakaty> any ideas?
[01:11] <genii> Well I still use telnet for some ancient RPG sites that work like the old text game "adventure" for instance LOL I know it's horrible
[01:11] <brandon_> how do you change the k-menu icon?
[01:11] <genii> cloakable Heh
[01:11] <evox_> ok thanks for the help
[01:11] <Linux_Galore> Yakaty: it this feisty
[01:11] <Schuenemann> evox_: worked?
[01:11] <evox_> The adept manager is downloading and installin  JRE 5
[01:12] <Yakaty> Linux_Galore: no
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> Yakaty: what version then
[01:12] <evox_> Thanks again
[01:12] <Schuenemann> evox_: do "java -version" after it's done, to check if it's using sun's JRE and not GCJ
[01:12] <Yakaty> Linux_Galore: 6.10 Edgy
[01:12] <evox_> ok
[01:13] <genii> Did anything ever come of Blackdown java?
[01:14] <Linux_Galore> Yakaty: disable the job control in busybox
[01:14] <Schuenemann> what is blackdown?
[01:14] <Yakaty> the wierd thing is I installed ubuntu edgy a while back as a dual boot and it all worked perfectly so now when I come to get rid of windows its refusing to work :(
[01:14] <Yakaty> Linux_Galore: ok how?
[01:14] <genii> Schuenemann Used to be one of the few jre for linux
[01:14] <Schuenemann> brandon_: perhaps #kde is a better place to ask
[01:14] <genii> jvm/jre
[01:14] <Schuenemann> honestly, no JVM gets close to Sun's
[01:15] <Schuenemann> and now that it's becoming free, there's no reason
[01:15] <genii> Yes :)
[01:15] <excitatory> poor blackdown devs
[01:15] <genii> I imagine they are Sun devs these days LOL
[01:16] <genii> Project LookingGlass from Sun looks wicked but i doubt even dual cores could do it well. We'll have to wait for like 16 cores
[01:17] <Schuenemann> does it involve swing?
[01:17] <genii> It's a pure java OS
[01:17] <Schuenemann> ahh... I know
[01:17] <genii> 3D desktop
[01:17] <evox_> In   Adept it says Prepairing Installation of sun-java5-bin... and its stuck on 28   percent
[01:17] <Schuenemann> I don't think that will go very far
[01:18] <Schuenemann> evox_: for long?
[01:18] <genii> I am a big proponent of vrml / open source 3D generally
[01:18] <evox_> Yea
[01:18] <Schuenemann> well... I don't know... I'd wait
[01:20] <Yakaty> hmm.. just noticed when I ctrl+alt+f1 its got some errors on there: "cp: unable to poen '/root/var/log': No such file or directory", "mount: Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: No such file or directory", etc
[01:20] <Yakaty> "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init"
[01:21] <genii> hmm /root/var ????
[01:21] <genii> Looks like you did some chroot or install under /root
[01:21] <Yakaty> I know the CD is ok - I checked the checksum and verified the cd when I burned it - plus i redownloaded and reburnt just to be sure
[01:21] <Yakaty> genii: no thats from the install cd
[01:22] <Yakaty> when it gets past the boot screen and the first progress screen comes up with the logo it gives me that
[01:22] <genii> That doesn't sound right
[01:22] <Yakaty> yeah tell me about it :( lol
[01:22] <Linux_Galore> Yakaty: its a known bug -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279884
[01:23] <genii> Maybe just do chroot /root LOL
[01:23] <Linux_Galore> Yakaty: seems to be related to grub
[01:24] <Yakaty> hrmm.. thats wierd because I installed edgy on it before and had no problem
[01:24] <Linux_Galore> Yakaty: is this a new cd ?
[01:25] <Linux_Galore> Yakaty: have you changed any of the hardware ?
[01:25] <Yakaty> yes
[01:25] <Yakaty> no its a laptop
[01:25] <Yakaty> the cd is definately ok though
[01:25] <Linux_Galore> Yakaty:  they do update the images
[01:25] <Yakaty> I checked the dates on the ftp server and its october
[01:25] <Yakaty> which I think is when I did the last install
[01:26] <Linux_Galore> Yakaty: some find the work round is using the alternate  cd
[01:26] <genii> Yes, there were in fact about 20 updates yesterday that I noticed when ran a diff apt-mirror on the archives
[01:26] <evox_> When I try to kill a process in the Process Table it tells me that I lack permissions to
[01:26] <Yakaty> yeah I'm downloading that now
[01:26] <Linux_Galore> evox_:   sudo ksysguard
[01:26] <evox_> How do I kill a process?
[01:26] <Schuenemann> evox_: it's still there?
[01:26] <Schuenemann> stuck?
[01:26] <evox_> Well yes
[01:26] <evox_> Then I closed it
[01:26] <Schuenemann> wow this sucks
[01:27] <evox_> and tried it all over again
[01:27] <Yakaty> bah its so annoying they've broken it!! lol
[01:27] <evox_> and Now it tells me that there is a process using it
[01:27] <Linux_Galore> Yakaty: try feisty
[01:27] <evox_> and I opened process table and there are 5 adept managers running
[01:27] <nixternal> dvd ripping, what's my best bet? dvd::rip is giving me grief
[01:27] <Linux_Galore> nixternal: k3b
[01:27] <Schuenemann> didn't you install using konsole?
[01:27] <triki> k9
[01:27] <nixternal> shoot, i didn't even think about k3b
[01:27] <HymnToLife> nixternal, just rip or also encode ?
[01:27] <nixternal> all the above
[01:28] <Yakaty> Linux_Galore: I'm going to try alternative first because I dont really like to live that close to the edge :)
[01:28] <HymnToLife> windows in vmware :p
[01:28] <Linux_Galore> k3b = rip and burn
[01:28] <triki> k9 is for ripping
[01:28] <nixternal> ewww
[01:28] <nixternal> Linux_Galore: ya, why i looked past that i will never know
[01:28] <HymnToLife> that's wat I do anyway, Linux tools are not powerful enough to me
[01:28] <triki> anyone know how to connect to a shoutcast stream(video) ?
[01:28] <HymnToLife> when Avidemux will have decent SSA/ASS support, maybe I'll dump my Windows :p
[01:28] <nixternal> not powerful enough?
[01:29] <Linux_Galore> HymnToLife: how so, I do everything in Linux without issues
[01:29] <Schuenemann> nixternal: he's a chuck norris
[01:29] <nixternal> i have been using linux alone now for years, always been more than powerful for me
[01:29] <HymnToLife> Linux_Galore, we were talking about DVD rip/encoding
[01:29] <Linux_Galore> HymnToLife: ?? wtf, you can do all that in Linux
[01:29] <Schuenemann> talking about that, is there any program that removes a CD/DVDs protection?
[01:29] <HymnToLife> oh yeah ?
[01:30] <HymnToLife> I'll send you some SSAs, try to encode them in Linux
[01:30] <Linux_Galore> HymnToLife:  k3b and vlc will encode
[01:30] <triki> k9copy
[01:30] <Schuenemann> Linux_Galore: does k3b remove DVD's protection?
[01:30] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: yep
[01:30] <Dr_willis> dvd protection?
[01:30] <Schuenemann> how?
[01:30] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: re rips it
[01:30] <Schuenemann> it didn't when I tried some time ago
[01:31] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: decodes on the fly and re rips ti
[01:31] <Linux_Galore> it*
[01:31] <Dr_willis> never noticed k3b ripping dvd to video. or that stuff.. but it may be a new feature in the newer k3b's
[01:31] <Schuenemann> I tried copying a protected DVD and it failed
[01:31] <Linux_Galore> Dr_willis: recent feature
[01:31] <Schuenemann> there's a program in windows called anydvd that removes those protections
[01:31] <Schuenemann> like country
[01:31] <genii> In worst case scenario where there is some stupid new scheme for encryption you can always use a virtual patch cable and pipe player output directly to some encoding engine
[01:31] <Dr_willis> I rarely try to rip dvds to video. :)
[01:31] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: rip it first
[01:32] <Schuenemann> what do you mean by rip?
[01:32] <Dr_willis> Virtual Patch Cable.. heh heh
[01:32] <Schuenemann> generate an image?
[01:32] <magicbronson_> just plugged in a usb wireless adapter to my ubuntu machine. according to ifconfig, wlan0 is pulling an IP from my wireless router. anyone have any idea why /proc/net/wireless says my link quality is 0 and i have no internet? i'm right next to the router.
[01:32] <Schuenemann> or copying the songs/videos ?
[01:32] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: convert to a xvid avi set it to a high resolution
[01:32] <Schuenemann> but that isn't exacly copying
[01:32] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: thats ripping
[01:32] <Schuenemann> I'll have a different dvd
[01:33] <Schuenemann> no way to make an exact copy?
[01:33] <genii> Scuenemann For Widoze I grew fond of DVDecryptor/DVDShrink as sort of a package for ripping
[01:33] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: otherwise just dd the dvd to a a file
[01:33] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: thats what I do
[01:33] <Schuenemann> Linux_Galore: you do that with a protected disk?
[01:33] <genii> Yeah I've dd'd DVD isos LOL
[01:34] <Schuenemann> what is dd
[01:34] <Schuenemann> ?
[01:34] <genii> DiskDupe some would say
[01:34] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: yes
[01:34] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann:  dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/pirates/mypiratedcopy.iso
[01:34] <genii> Basically bit for bit copies some dev etc
[01:34] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: then just use k3b to burn the iso
[01:35] <Schuenemann> what is this? dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/pirates/mypiratedcopy.iso
[01:35] <genii> if <- Input File =
[01:35] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: dd will literally copy the image of the cd/dvd and save it as a iso file
[01:35] <HymnToLife> dumps the CD/DVD to an ISO
[01:35] <Schuenemann> is that a shell command?
[01:35] <genii> of <- Output File
[01:35] <genii> yes
[01:35] <HymnToLife> man dd :)
[01:36] <Schuenemann> hmmm... interesting >)
[01:36] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: all that k3b is doing is copying the literal image back to another dvd
[01:37] <Schuenemann> but won't the new copy carry the protection too?
[01:37] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: yes
[01:37] <Schuenemann> ouch...
[01:37] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: thats why people rip them
[01:37] <Schuenemann> you know, you can't watch a DVD from US at South America
[01:37] <genii> Dr_willis as a point of interest I heard first of virtual patch cables from some guys using theis method to pipe skype into an asterisk box :)
[01:37] <Schuenemann> or Europe
[01:38] <nixternal> im not worried about that stuff, these are homemade dvd movies..plus i don't use windows so im not into that whole warez scene and illegal movies
[01:38] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: just rip the dvd to a avi, then it will play on anything
[01:38] <genii> Thats why region-free drive firmware is sooo good
[01:38] <nixternal> no avi! ogg only :)
[01:38] <nixternal> ogm
[01:38] <Linux_Galore> avi is open
[01:38] <Schuenemann> nixternal: watching a DVD outside its country is illegal?
[01:38] <Linux_Galore> its just a container
[01:38] <Schuenemann> illegal movie
[01:38] <morghanphoenix> OGG has problems being recognized by a lot of programs
[01:38] <genii> yeah ogg flacc etc
[01:38] <nixternal> well if my home movies make it outside this country, then people have no life
[01:38] <nixternal> ;p
[01:38] <HymnToLife> [01:38]  <Linux_Galore> avi is open <= true, but it still stinks
[01:39] <nixternal> hehe
[01:39] <genii> There is ogg plugin for Windoze Mplayer now
[01:39] <morghanphoenix> I use MP3 & AVI just for compatability with everything
[01:39] <Schuenemann> I'm not talking about your home videos, of course
[01:39] <Linux_Galore> HymnToLife: I get no issues, all my stuff is very clear, I use xvid for encoding
[01:39] <HymnToLife> I use H.264 / Vorbis / ASS / MKV :)
[01:39] <nixternal> i am like this, if someone wants a copy of my music or my videos, they better get ogg, im not here to make their lives easier :)
[01:39] <nixternal> just freeeeeeee
[01:39] <Linux_Galore> mkv is rubbish, total resource hog
[01:39] <morghanphoenix> I use acidrip to encode
[01:40] <nixternal> dvd::rip is great, now that i know how to use it
[01:40] <genii> nixternal Me too :) If they wanna listen to the ICE server they better be able to do ogg
[01:40] <Schuenemann> !ogg
[01:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:40] <nixternal> woot
[01:40] <Schuenemann> bah
[01:40] <HymnToLife> Linux_Galore, get a PC which is less than 5 years old :)
[01:40] <morghanphoenix> OGG doesn't want to be recognized as video format on my slackware system.
[01:40] <Linux_Galore> HymnToLife: Im on a work station
[01:40] <morghanphoenix> Works great on the Kubuntu one
[01:40] <Linux_Galore> HymnToLife: dual Xeion P4
[01:41] <nixternal> ogg videos work great on my slack machine, forgot which package though i had to compile for it
[01:41] <genii> Linux_Galore Thats a pretty hefty box :)
[01:41] <Linux_Galore> HymnToLife: I can play mkv with no issues but it still is a resource hog and talkes "longer" to encode than xvid
[01:41] <Schuenemann> ogg is very old
[01:41] <Linux_Galore> takes*
[01:41] <HymnToLife> Linux_Galore, bu saying that, you prove you know nothing about it
[01:41] <HymnToLife> MKV is a container, just like AVI
[01:42] <HymnToLife> nothing to do with the video compression format
[01:42] <Linux_Galore> also mkv produces more fragmentation in the image than xvid
[01:42] <Linux_Galore> sorry avi
[01:42] <morghanphoenix> I like acidrip, all my DVDs under 700 MB
[01:43] <morghanphoenix> Each one plays from a CD now so I don't destroy my discs
[01:43] <nixternal> i am trying an avi rip to see the size of it
[01:43] <Schuenemann> can k3b rip?
[01:43] <Linux_Galore> Im so used to ripping xvid/avi I have a mental merging now
[01:43] <genii> morghanphoenix How does it cope with widesceen? Alright?
[01:43] <dwidmann> Schuenemann: yes
[01:43] <nixternal> hehe
[01:43] <soulrider> !mouse
[01:43] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[01:43] <Schuenemann> hummm
[01:43] <dwidmann> Schuenemann: at least the 1.0pre1 and on can
[01:43] <morghanphoenix> Yeah, works great with widescreen
[01:43] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: yes
[01:43] <Schuenemann> can k3b generate SVCD too?
[01:43] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: yep
[01:43] <morghanphoenix> K3B can rip now?
[01:43] <Schuenemann> nice
[01:43] <morghanphoenix> When did I miss that?
[01:43] <Schuenemann> SVCD is cool for watching at a dvd player
[01:44] <genii> yeah k3b is like the swiss army knife
[01:44] <dwidmann> morghanphoenix: Months ago
[01:44] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: that was added about 6 months ago
[01:44] <evox_> Ok im back
[01:44] <evox_> I need help with the adept manager
[01:44] <dwidmann> I think the grounds for it were there but horribly broken in 0.12
[01:44] <Schuenemann> didn't you install it using konsole?
[01:44] <morghanphoenix> I'm happy at last though, just got UO & EverCrack working on my computer
[01:44] <evox_> Every time I try to start it up or do any apt get stuff it tells me that its being used by another process
[01:45] <evox_> No I cant do it in konsole
[01:45] <morghanphoenix> Only things I missed about windows.
[01:45] <_226> morghanphoenix: if UO stands for Ultima Online
[01:45] <Schuenemann> evox_: sudo ksysguard
[01:45] <_226> you still can play it
[01:45] <Linux_Galore> evox_:   type  apt-get update   it should spit out an error
[01:45] <_226> ;>
[01:45] <genii> I sorta get nostalgic for the Flying Windows screensaver LOL
[01:45] <morghanphoenix> Since 2001
[01:45] <Schuenemann> Linux_Galore: how do I generate SVCD?
[01:45] <Linux_Galore> evox_:   type  sudo apt-get update   it should spit out an error
[01:45] <_226> k, now, lets whine.
[01:46] <dwidmann> for ksysguard, just hit ctrl + escape ;)
[01:46] <_226> GODDAMN KARAMBA
[01:46] <_226> :<
[01:46] <morghanphoenix> Of course I've played Ultima since the 80s so it just seemed to be the right MMORPG for me to go with
[01:46] <dwidmann> _226, sure, why not
[01:46] <evox_> yea it did
[01:46] <evox_> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:46] <genii> Geez I remember Ultima for the C64
[01:46] <rideout> how do i make konversation automatically set me to 'away' after a certain timeout, or if the screensaver comes on?
[01:46] <genii> evox_ Informative and instuctive :)
[01:47] <evox_> What?
[01:47] <morghanphoenix> Played the whole series, wonder if WINE would let me play that Ultima Collection that's laying around here somewhere.
[01:47] <evox_> Any help here?
[01:47] <Schuenemann> do as konsole said
[01:48] <genii> evox_ The error msg informs you of what step you need to take to correct the problem ... that is instructive and informative
[01:48] <evox_> Ok it says "Setting up lipltdl3
[01:48] <evox_> Now its back at the command
[01:48] <morghanphoenix> Does anyone know why my status bars on installers and rips don't move?
[01:48] <Schuenemann> Linux_Galore: the manual says nothing about SVCD, are you sure k3b supports that?
[01:48] <cloakable> Does anyone know what I should to to back a dvd to an xvid file with k3b?
[01:48] <morghanphoenix> Everything works just fine, but I have no idea how long I have left
[01:48] <excitatory> evox_: and now re-run whatever you were running that it failed on..
[01:49] <dwidmann> Schuenemann: I wouldn't doubt if the manual was out of date, that happens a lot
[01:49] <evox_> Thanks sooooooooooo much
[01:49] <evox_> Its installing now
[01:49] <dwidmann> cloakable: which version of k3b are you using?
[01:49] <Schuenemann> dwidmann: do you know how to do it?
[01:49] <cloakable> dwidmann: latest version with Edgy
[01:49] <dwidmann> Schuenemann: I've never played with SVCD, so I wouldn't know
[01:50] <Ace2016> Hi all
[01:50] <dwidmann> cloakable: You need a still newer version, 1.0RC2 from www.k3b.org
[01:50] <Ace2016> I'm in kde now, but how do i change the gnome icon theme?
[01:50] <cloakable> dwidmann: Ahhh.
[01:50] <Schuenemann> not final?
[01:50] <cloakable> dwidmann: Do they supply a deb file?
[01:50] <genii> Hmm gnome icon theme in kde
[01:50] <Schuenemann> I have 0.12.17
[01:50] <dwidmann> No
[01:50] <_226> Ace2016: download it and change in the System Management tool?
[01:51] <dwidmann> cloakable: you'll have to compile it yourself, fortunately k3b is a breeze to compile, no caveats
[01:51] <genii> I forgot that existed
[01:51] <Ace2016> _226: I installed the gnome but now what? what system management tool?
[01:51] <cloakable> dwidmann: Yeah, but getting updates isn't :P But no problem, getting now.
[01:51] <evox_> Unpacking replacement sun-java5-bin ...
[01:51] <evox_> Setting up sun-java5-bin (1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1) ...
[01:51] <evox_> Setting up sun-java5-jre (1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1) ...
[01:51] <evox_> evox@evox-desktop:~$
[01:51] <evox_> Now what next?
[01:52] <Schuenemann> evox_: java -version
[01:52] <dwidmann> cloakable, if you feel th at way, why not dump it in /opt/k3brc2 or some such?
[01:52] <Ace2016> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:52] <genii> java -version ...damn beat to the punch
[01:52] <cloakable> dwidmann: Can you guide me in going that?
[01:52] <evox_> java version "1.4.2"
[01:52] <evox_> java version "1.4.2"
[01:52] <evox_> ..........It didnt work
[01:52] <Schuenemann> evox_: do as Ace2016 said
[01:52] <Ace2016> evox_: run sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:52] <dwidmann> evox_: now sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:53] <dwidmann> drat, Ace2016 beat me to th e punch :D
[01:53] <genii> evox_ my guess is it *did* work but the old version is still being used/cached
[01:53] <Ace2016> and Schuenemann beat me to it
[01:53] <dwidmann> cloakable: sure thing
[01:53] <cloakable> dwidmann: Thanks :)
[01:53] <Schuenemann> and no one beat me to it
[01:53] <evox_> Ok now it lists 3 things
[01:53] <Schuenemann> choose Sun's
[01:53] <Ace2016> pick *+        2    /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[01:53] <Schuenemann> version 5.0 or 1.5
[01:54] <evox_>   Selection    Alternative
[01:54] <evox_> -----------------------------------------------
[01:54] <evox_>           1    /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[01:54] <evox_> *+        2    /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[01:54] <evox_>           3    /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[01:54] <evox_> Choose 3?
[01:54] <Schuenemann> so, option 3
[01:54] <genii> bleh
[01:54] <Ace2016> yea
[01:54] <evox_> Thank you guys again
[01:54] <dwidmann> cloakable, first switch on the deb-src repositories for main and universe at least, or put for restricted and multiverse too just to be safe, then sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude build-dep k3b
[01:54] <evox_> ok now.....Are we allowed to talk about installing Limewire?
[01:55] <morghanphoenix> why not use frostwire?
[01:55] <Ace2016> installing yes, possible uses might be a grey area
[01:55] <cloakable> dwidmann: I already have all source repos enabled :)
[01:55] <morghanphoenix> works better than limewire for me
[01:55] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_a_VCD_or_SVCD
[01:55] <genii> I still like my old bittorrent
[01:55] <evox_> well Just need to install
[01:55] <evox_> ok I have limewirelinux.rpm on my desktop
[01:55] <Schuenemann> is there limewire for linux?
[01:55] <nixternal> frostwire
[01:55] <morghanphoenix> frostwire is for linux
[01:55] <Ace2016> i like azureus, takes up lots of ram but it works well
[01:55] <Schuenemann> Linux_Galore: thank you
[01:55] <evox_> thats a torrent
[01:56] <Linux_Galore> Ace2016: same here
[01:56] <evox_> ok so try frost wire?
[01:56] <morghanphoenix> Yup
[01:56] <morghanphoenix> Works great, it's actually limewire
[01:56] <Linux_Galore> Azureus for me still has the best speeds
[01:56] <genii> I usually get whatever tunes by torrent
[01:56] <morghanphoenix> after they got sued they changed the name
[01:56] <Schuenemann> Linux_Galore: he isn't using k3b there, right?
[01:56] <evox_> I use Utorrent
[01:57] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: no, seems they dropped the svcd stuff
[01:57] <dwidmann> cloakable: after that, extract the tarball from k3b.org, (tar xf filename.tar.bz2), cd into the new folder, ./configure --enable-debug=full --prefix=/opt/k3brc2; make; sudo make install
[01:57] <Schuenemann> I see
[01:57] <genii> evox_ Yeah that one is good too
[01:57] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: hmm wonder if there is another kde front end to do it
[01:57] <morghanphoenix> wtf is status c0000135
[01:57] <genii> Azureus I like interface but hate speed.resource hog
[01:57] <cloakable> dwidmann: Thanks!
[01:57] <morghanphoenix> keepstelling me extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:58] <genii> Sounds suspiciously like an ATI fglrx thingy
[01:58] <morghanphoenix> I'm using a nvidia card
[01:58] <dwidmann> cloakable: the prefix part may be a gray area, you might need something else, that something being telling the compiler where the qt and kde libraries are ... which would be /usr/lib or some such. That or you could just leave out the prefix and it alleviates that problem.
[01:58] <genii> Perhaps check your mesa drivers
[01:59] <genii> and libglu* libgl1* stuff
[01:59] <cloakable> dwidmann: I don't generally get problems like that, though.
[01:59] <evox_> Ok now I have the Frostwire Tarball on my Desktop
[01:59] <evox_> what now?
[01:59] <cloakable> dwidmann: configure went through smoothly :)
[02:00] <dwidmann> With regards to azureus, I hear it's actually decent if you're using Java 6, according to jdong from the ubuntuforums
[02:00] <morghanphoenix> I used the deb file for frostwire, tarballs always seem to be missing something
[02:00] <cloakable> dwidmann: make running now. Should it take long on a 1.6GHz CPU?
[02:00] <dwidmann> cloakable: it's a fairly quick compile, it's not too big
[02:00] <genii> Yeah usually the ./configure file!
[02:00] <dwidmann> I think it takes about a minute on mine ...
[02:01] <genii> ^missing on tarballs
[02:01] <Schuenemann> what do you use as ed2k client?
[02:01] <Schuenemann> lmule? xmule?
[02:02] <cloakable> dwidmann: Well, the compiling is going through :P
[02:02] <dwidmann> cloakable: to get rid of the warning on k3b start regarding growisofs being <7, you can get that from I forget where, I'll have to find the thing, but apparantly growisofs 7 is out.
[02:02] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: no
[02:02] <genii> edonkey?
[02:02] <Schuenemann> what then?
[02:03] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: he's recommending k3b for burning but not encoding the iso
[02:03] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/search.php
[02:03] <cloakable> dwidmann: Is it a gui warning or a command line warning?
[02:03] <morghanphoenix> how do you make divx discs?
[02:03] <dwidmann> cloakable: gui warning
[02:03] <Schuenemann> genii: edonkey
[02:03] <dwidmann> cloakable: it will tell you you'll have issues with burning multisession dvds, or something like that. I think growisofs7 has bluray support too.
[02:04] <evox_> Ok Frostwire is up and working
[02:04] <cloakable> dwidmann: Ah well, I can live with that :P
[02:04] <evox_> Thanks all for help. Im off to use my New installed Linux
[02:04] <cloakable> dwidmann: I can't burn DVD's :P
[02:04] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: you dont make a divx disk you just rip to a divx/avi file
[02:04] <cloakable> Anyway
[02:04] <dwidmann> cloakable: ah well :P
[02:04] <morghanphoenix> I have AVI files
[02:05] <genii> AVI -> dvd = pain
[02:05] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: avi is the container divx is the encoder
[02:05] <morghanphoenix> how do you make them play in a portable divx player?
[02:05] <morghanphoenix> I have one of those palmtop thingies
[02:05] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: just encode the video to a format the player supports
[02:06] <morghanphoenix> Just burn the file to disc then and pop it in?
[02:06] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: google is you friend, we are not google
[02:07] <jon__> hello
[02:07] <dwidmann> !googlism
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about googlism - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <jon__> can someone help me?
[02:07] <LjL> !helpme
[02:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:07] <Ace2016> !google
[02:07] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[02:07] <genii> !googleholic
[02:07] <jon__> righteo
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about googleholic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <dwidmann> Apparently ubotu doesn't endorse other religions :P
[02:07] <jon__> i have realplayer, but i cannot watch embedded fiels
[02:07] <jon__> files
[02:07] <jon__> how can i fix this?
[02:07] <morghanphoenix> I kept getting windows programs and over technical explainations from google, maybe there should be a google.com/for-idiots
[02:07] <Ace2016> jon__: which site is this?
[02:08] <morghanphoenix> or kiss
[02:08] <jon__> petatv.com
[02:08] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix:   type  www.google.com/linux
[02:08] <jon__> or goveg.com
[02:08] <jon__> however, i am abled to stream democracynow with realplayer
[02:09] <genii> xmms
[02:09] <jon__> when i try here tho, it says "could not find an appropriate hxplay or realplay in the system path to use as an embedded player"
[02:09] <Ace2016> jon__: it plays in my konqueror fine, the kplayer kpart was used for playback
[02:10] <genii> Interesting, Konqueror
[02:10] <jon__> im not familiar with konqueror
[02:10] <jon__> is that a web browser?
[02:10] <genii> yes
[02:10] <Ace2016> jon__: and firefox played it fine too with the mplayer plugin
[02:10] <jon__> im using moz firefox
[02:10] <Linux_Galore> jon__: just install realplayer and make sure its in your path
[02:10] <jon__> i have realplayer installed
[02:10] <Ace2016> jon__: but both times i chose windows media instead of realplayer
[02:10] <Schuenemann> Linux_Galore: does that tutorial applies only for mpeg? Or avi works too?
[02:11] <jon__> how do i make sure its in my path?
[02:11] <jon__> i think thats what i need help with
[02:11] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: well k3b will do mpeg4 anyway
[02:11] <jon__> because i definately have realplayer and use it frequently
[02:11] <Ace2016> no wait firefox didn't play it, said it too soon, mplayer plugin faild
[02:11] <Schuenemann> Linux_Galore: I mean, can I generate the SVCD having an AVI?
[02:12] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: isnt svcd strictly mpeg
[02:12] <morghanphoenix> linux google is better, actually might find my answer sometime tonight
[02:12] <Schuenemann> oops, not that
[02:12] <morghanphoenix> lol
[02:12] <Schuenemann> yeah, sorry
[02:12] <jon__> where do i find this system path and how do i make sure that realplay is in it?
[02:13] <triki> echo $PATH
[02:13] <cloakable> dwidmann: O.o still compiling
[02:13] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: you can create a data cd, what I do is rip the a xvid/mpeg4  avi then burn ti to a cd. my dvd player has no issues
[02:13] <Schuenemann> as svcd?
[02:13] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: all within k3b
[02:13] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: no svcd isnt a data cd
[02:14] <morghanphoenix> they really like dvd::rip
[02:14] <dwidmann> cloakable: wow, your system must be slow o.O
[02:14] <Schuenemann> I didn't know if would play a datacd as a video
[02:14] <cloakable> dwidmann: AMD Athlon XP 2000+ - 1.6GHz
[02:14] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: you just rip the dvd to a file thats fits on a CD then burn it to a cd as a data CD
[02:14] <Schuenemann> interesting
[02:15] <Schuenemann> does your dvd player read dvd+rw?
[02:15] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: check the specs on your dvd player though
[02:15] <dwidmann> cloakable: compare with AMD Athlon 64 FX-60 - 2.6 GHz ... slow by comparison anyhow
[02:15] <dwidmann> cloakable: I wouldn't think it would be by that much though ...
[02:15] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: yes
[02:15] <Schuenemann> I believe mine does too, I'll try that :)
[02:16] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: I paid a bit more for my dvd player so I could get multi format support
[02:16] <morghanphoenix> I'm waiting for a athlon 64, still too expensive for me, and none in the recycle bins like my athlon was.
[02:16] <Ace2016> konqueror and kplayer couldn't play the real version :(
[02:16] <morghanphoenix> I love working at places where people throw away computers
[02:16] <genii> me too
[02:16] <Schuenemann> mine has many formats too, I'll check if it plays dvd+rw
[02:16] <cloakable> dwidmann: I'm going to be switching to dual Opteron 256 :) You reckon that'll be faster?
[02:16] <Ace2016> morghanphoenix: where would this be?
[02:16] <jon__> how about this question
[02:16] <jon__> how do i install a bin file
[02:17] <jon__> thats a plugin
[02:17] <Ace2016> ./binfilehere
[02:17] <Linux_Galore> Ace2016: ?? , thats because you havent set your file associations
[02:17] <jon__> for firefox
[02:17] <morghanphoenix> at a pc recycle and reclaim place, I test the trashed computers and put together working ones
[02:17] <dwidmann> cloakable: I would hope so
[02:17] <Ace2016> Linux_Galore: kplayer loads as the kpart but doesn't start playing
[02:17] <morghanphoenix> It's usually only a software issue too
[02:17] <Linux_Galore> Ace2016: you can tell konquerior that when it sees set file types to open the file with a set application
[02:17] <morghanphoenix> people throw away stuff for the dumbest reasons
[02:17] <cloakable> dwidmann: make done, running make install
[02:18] <Linux_Galore> Ace2016: its on your settings
[02:18] <genii> make dep?
[02:18] <Linux_Galore> in*
[02:18] <Ace2016> Linux_Galore: where?
[02:18] <Linux_Galore> Ace2016: open konqueror
[02:18] <cloakable> dwidmann: running it
[02:18] <Ace2016> done
[02:19] <cloakable> dwidmann: not getting a gui?
[02:19] <Linux_Galore> Ace2016:  Settings -> Configure Konqueror
[02:19] <dwidmann> cloakable: really?
[02:19] <dwidmann> cloakable: are you running the right binary?
[02:19] <Linux_Galore> Ace2016: look for File associations
[02:19] <jon__> how do i install a bin plugin file for firefox
[02:19] <cloakable> dwidmann: the k3b binary?
[02:20] <jon__> do i just drop it in the plugin folder?
[02:20] <dwidmann> cloakable: yes
[02:20] <dwidmann> jon__: chmod +x *.bin; ./filename.bin
[02:20] <cloakable> dwidmann: in /opt/k3brc2/bin/
[02:20] <genii> jon__ Worth a shot. You should also perhaps do sudo chmod +x whateverthebinnameis
[02:20] <dwidmann> It's probably a shell script/installer thingy
[02:21] <cloakable> dwidmann: That's the one.
[02:21] <jon__> thankx
[02:21] <dwidmann> cloakable: that should be the right one ... perhaps changing the prefix caused trouble afterall :\
[02:21] <cloakable> Argh.
[02:22] <dwidmann> And even worse, it wasn't kind enough to print out an error regarding it?
[02:22] <dwidmann> double argh
[02:22] <morghanphoenix> how do you convert .ico files to usable icons for Linux
[02:22] <cloakable> dwidmann: Nope
[02:22] <genii> what ico to xpm ?
[02:22] <morghanphoenix> to whatever KDE recognizes as an icon
[02:22] <dwidmann> or png, png works too
[02:22] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: you mean ico to png or jpg
[02:23] <cloakable> dwidmann: going to look for a deb of it, I think
[02:23] <morghanphoenix> yeah, is there a converter or do I need to install a graphics program?
[02:23] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: use gimp
[02:23] <dwidmann> cloakable: I don't think there is one
[02:23] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: open the file and resave it
[02:23] <rich4234> any good clocks that are customizable for 6.06?
[02:23] <genii> since they are bitmaps (Windoze bmp) you need some bmp2png idea maybe in a package with cjpeg etc
[02:24] <cloakable> dwidmann: There probably is :P
[02:24] <genii> !cjpeg
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cjpeg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <genii> you lie ubotu!
[02:24] <genii> !cjpg
[02:24] <dwidmann> cloakable: switch the prefix back and I highly doubt it will give you any trouble, instead of changing the prefix, change the program-suffix/prefix, so it just appends something to the name of things and doesn't overwrite your 0.12.7 or whatnot
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cjpg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <LjL> !libjpeg-progs
[02:25] <ubotu> libjpeg-progs: Programs for manipulating JPEG files. In component main, is optional. Version 6b-13 (edgy), package size 75 kB, installed size 208 kB
[02:25] <LjL> the 'cjpeg' program is contained in that package.
[02:25] <LjL> the simple fact that you've got a program doesn't mean there is a package with the exact same name -- which there isn't
[02:26] <flaccid> i like using apt:// in konqi
[02:26] <LjL> !packages
[02:26] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[02:26] <LjL> "dpkg -S" and "apt-file" are also very useful for finding what package a file belongs to
[02:29] <morghanphoenix> anybody know the default kubuntu directory for icons?
[02:29] <dwidmann> /usr/share/icons
[02:29] <dwidmann> probably
[02:29] <morghanphoenix> Thanks, gimp worked, it's a png now.
[02:30] <genii> I remember there used to be a score of converter progs in one package that included cjpeg and had to do with mgetty-sendfax but darned if I can recall the package
[02:30] <pete> is it a bug that kde progress bar on a usb device ends before all the data is copied?  i have also noticed that when i select to safely remove the device the status says that it is complete, but the usb busy light stil blinks for a couple of minutes...
[02:30] <Jucato> pete: yes I think so
[02:30] <genii> eg :  g32pdf   etc etc
[02:31] <Linux_Galore> pete: cache
[02:31] <pete> is it a udev thing, because it worked in breezy and hoary
[02:31] <genii> pbmplus :)
[02:31] <genii> !pbmplus
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pbmplus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <genii> ! info pbmplus
[02:32] <ubotu> Package pbmplus does not exist in any distro I know
[02:32] <pynsa> hol<<
[02:32] <pynsa> hola
[02:32] <genii> argh
[02:32] <Linux_Galore> pete: I get the same, seems to vary though between thumb drives
[02:32] <pete> Linux_Galore: is there a settting for reducing the cache size?
[02:33] <genii> must be *bsd package
[02:33] <genii> Time to go home for a nap LOL
[02:33] <Linux_Galore> pete: not sure, Ive never looked into it
[02:33] <Linux_Galore> pete: seems to only effect usb 1.1 and 1.2, no issues with 2.0
[02:33] <genii> have fun all
[02:34] <pete> is there a way to speed up the responce of window launches and general KDE tasks? It seams that KDE 3.5 and edgy is alot choppier than KDE 3.45 and Breezy.
[02:34] <Linux_Galore> pete: basically the write speed on the drive is slow
[02:34] <Linux_Galore> pete: get a drive with a faster write speed
[02:35] <Linux_Galore> pete: thumb drives dont all write at the same speed, some are really slow
[02:35] <reggie> is there another way besides adept to install downloaded software packages?
[02:35] <Linux_Galore> pete: also dont use usb 1 ports
[02:36] <robotgeek> reggie: apt-get
[02:36] <pete> its a CF Sandisk Ultra II and the read/write is a 2.0.  I have no problems on Gnome/edgy on another machine that is a PIII vs the KDE/edgy machine that is a Celeron D
[02:36] <robotgeek> reggie: using the command line, i.e
[02:36] <reggie> kk
[02:36] <Jucato> install downloaded packages? sound like you downloaded .deb fiels?
[02:36] <Jucato> files*
[02:36] <pete> it is a KDE, or celeron thing.
[02:36] <Linux_Galore> pete: the drive may be usb 2 but is the actual port, P3's are usually usb 1.2
[02:36] <reggie> netscape
[02:37] <cloakable> dwidmann: No packages. If I install k3b straight into my system, will apt overwrite it when I upgrade k3b next?
[02:37] <reggie> then i unzipped
[02:37] <Jucato> :O
[02:37] <Jucato> reggie: is it a .deb or .tar.gz file?
[02:37] <reggie> 1 sec
[02:37] <pete> the P3 with Gnome/edgy works flawless and the celeron with KDE/edgy does not.
[02:37] <robotgeek> heh
[02:38] <reggie> tar.gz
[02:38] <reggie> thats the zipped file
[02:38] <Linux_Galore> pete: so your saying its not showing as a slow transfer but showing the transfer to cache
[02:38] <Jucato> reggie: then you will most probably need to compile that
[02:38] <dwidmann> cloakable: Probably, if your'e worried about that, you could try using --program-suffix in ./configure, like, ./configure --enable-debug=full --program-suffix=-rc2 .... otherwise, yes, it should overwrite it with the next upgrade (which could be a bad thing rather than a good thing)
[02:38] <reggie> k i unzipped it
[02:38] <Jucato> !compile | reggie
[02:38] <ubotu> reggie: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:38] <reggie> and now i need to run the installer
[02:39] <Linux_Galore> pete: I have an old P3 machine with the same bug but not with the same software on a new P4
[02:39] <cloakable> dwidmann: Ahhh.
[02:39] <Jucato> reggie: oh it has an installer?
[02:39] <reggie> yes
[02:39] <pete> its mainly that KDE/konquerer finishes way before the actual tansfer ends.
[02:39] <Jucato> oh ok... good luck then :)
[02:39] <dwidmann> cloakable: if you use the program-suffix option, the binary would be something like /usr/bin/k3b-rc2
[02:39] <reggie> but the command line they gave me to run doesnt work
[02:39] <Gadget100> where do i get a list of known bugs for edgy?
[02:39] <cloakable> dwidmann: Thanks :)
[02:39] <Jucato> !bugs
[02:39] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[02:39] <reggie> they gave me ./netscape-installer
[02:40] <pete> and the unmount does the same.  the device shows that it is unmounted in KDE before the device is done working.
[02:40] <Linux_Galore> pete: is the usb  chipset 1.2 ?
[02:40] <reggie> and i get an error of -n is not valid extension
[02:40] <Jucato> reggie: you should run that command inside the folder where netscape-installer is
[02:40] <reggie> i did
[02:40] <pete> When I do everyting in the terminal it works correctly... Thats whay I think its a KDE problem
[02:40] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: afaik, it's a known bug in Edgy. (progress bar disappearing or not showing up at all)
[02:40] <Linux_Galore> pete: with usb 2 it should write faster than the hardisk can read
[02:41] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: I dont get it with my new machine
[02:41] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: but I do with my old one
[02:41] <reggie> im such a noob at this its frustrating.............
[02:41] <Jucato> reggie: any particular reason you need netscape?
[02:41] <dwidmann> Linux_Galore: I don't know, hard drives can read pretty fast :)
[02:41] <reggie> my firfox keeps crashing
[02:41] <Linux_Galore> dwidmann: not as 400mb/s
[02:42] <reggie> plus i like the look and feel of netscape
[02:42] <Linux_Galore> at*
[02:42] <dwidmann> 400, here, I thought it was 40, or 48, wasn't it ....... whereas, hard drives, more like 63 ...
[02:42] <pete> Keep in mind that firefox is a memory hog.
[02:42] <Jucato> Linux_Galore, pete: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/61946
[02:42] <reggie> im running 1 gig of ram....
[02:43] <Linux_Galore> dwidmann: no USB 2 is 400mb/s ave
[02:43] <cloakable> dwidmann: doing ./configure again :P
[02:43] <reggie> i was going to uninstall the n reinstall
[02:43] <reggie> firefox
[02:43] <dwidmann> Linux_Galore: I think that's another one of those Mbs vs MiBs things, blah
[02:44] <Linux_Galore> dwidmann: think your right. aslo hardisks never relate the the bus speeds
[02:44] <Linux_Galore> to the*
[02:45] <Linux_Galore> dwidmann: bugger all difference between a SATA150 and a ATA100
[02:45] <dwidmann> /dev/sda:
[02:45] <dwidmann>  Timing cached reads:   3576 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1787.76 MB/sec
[02:45] <dwidmann>  Timing buffered disk reads:  182 MB in  3.02 seconds =  60.31 MB/sec
[02:45] <pete> Linux_Galore:  Thats it! THANKS! atleast I know its a bug...
[02:45] <Linux_Galore> dwidmann: because neither can max out
[02:45] <cloakable> dwidmann: And adding libdvdread-dev to the preinstall list might help :P
[02:46] <dwidmann> cloakable: ah, I think I already had that, was it neccessary?
[02:46] <Linux_Galore> dwidmann: aaah its a dbus bug
[02:46] <cloakable> dwidmann: Otherwise, video DVD reading wouldn't work.
[02:46] <rich4234> is there a better program than kroller.sez, it has terrible graphics lag even with 2 gigs of ram and a good video card.
[02:47] <dwidmann> Linux_Galore: what is?
[02:47] <dwidmann> cloakable: hmm
[02:47] <Linux_Galore> dwidmann: the usb thumb speed
[02:47] <cloakable> dwidmann: :P Which is the whole reason for me installing this version :P
[02:47] <dwidmann> cloakable: that would be funny if you didn't pull that in then wouldn't it?
[02:47] <Linux_Galore> dwidmann: showing completed when it shouldnt
[02:47] <HailandKill> !ksynaptics
[02:47] <ubotu> ksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2 (edgy), package size 206 kB, installed size 1008 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)
[02:48] <cloakable> dwidmann: Yeah :P
[02:48] <rich4234> anybody?
[02:49] <dwidmann> rich4234: for doing what?
[02:49] <pete> anyone have links to speed up the responce of KDE?  or things to check? mine seems choppy with edgy vs breezy and hoary
[02:49] <pete> does prelink actually help?
[02:50] <rich4234> I was wondering if there is a better program for kubuntu other than kroller.sez, looks like the mac toolbar with scrollable icons
[02:50] <tolki> hi all
[02:50] <dwidmann> pete: probably want to turn off some of the graphical effects, and prelink can help, just you won't see the difference the first time you load the program, also, it can make installing things take forever if you re-run prelink every time you install something new (which would be necessary if it were to be used with the newly installed things)
[02:52] <pete> dwidmann: were KDE defaults set up different in edgy vs breezy?
[02:52] <Linux_Galore> pete: pre linking does help and heres some other info -> http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Performance%20Tips
[02:53] <Linux_Galore> pete: nice thread talking about pre linking etc -> http://lists.kde.org/?t=107720614700002&r=1&w=2
[02:53] <dwidmann> pete: I wouldn't doubt it
[02:55] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: does prelinking still work these days?
[02:55] <Linux_Galore> dwidmann: hmm USB should have a locking clip to stop people removing devices by accident
[02:55] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: yes
[02:56] <Jucato> hm...
[02:56] <dwidmann> Linux_Galore: should, lest people want to end up with problems, or lack of written data
[02:56] <Jucato> noticeable improvements?
[02:56] <Linux_Galore> dwidmann: the computer locks the socket until all data is transfered
[02:57] <dwidmann> Does it now? Doesn't for me ...
[02:57] <dwidmann> I could just as easily pull it out in the middle of a transfer ..
[02:57] <hatta> no, usb should be robust enough to not be bothered by accidental removal of devices
[02:58] <cloakable> dwidmann: how long did my last compile take? *yawns*
[02:58] <dwidmann> cloakable: too long
[02:58] <cloakable> dwidmann: Hehe
[02:59] <cloakable> Just sat here, watching 'make' spam text at me :P
[02:59] <dwidmann> cloakable: that could almost make a usable screensaver o.O
[02:59] <cloakable> dwidmann: A bit cpu heavy, though :P
[03:00] <cloakable> dwidmann: and very intimidating to non-techy users :D
[03:00] <dwidmann> Oooh, even better yet
[03:00] <cloakable> dwidmann: someone needs to make a screensaver of a compile :D
[03:01] <dwidmann> Couldn't be any more cpu intensive than running an opengl screensaver without hardware 3d acceleration
[03:01] <cloakable> dwidmann: Yeah :P both take 100% CPU
[03:02] <dwidmann> Crud, Kopete is actually starting to lag now ... I've got it taking 275MB/RAM now
[03:03] <cloakable> dwidmann: Yeah, Kopete seems to be a RAM hog.
[03:04] <dwidmann> filed the bug report 15 minutes ago :O
[03:04] <dwidmann> I forgave it when it was taking up 125MB, but 275 seems more than a bit excessive
[03:04] <cloakable> dwidmann: just ran k3b-rc2...
[03:04] <dwidmann> success or not?
[03:05] <cloakable> dwidmann: sucess!
[03:05] <dwidmann> Don't tell me it still hates you ... oooooooooooooo, that's good
[03:06] <cloakable> dwidmann: soo, making that backup :D
[03:07] <dwidmann> Ah well, good night all ...... have to be up in about 6 hours
[03:07] <cloakable> Dammit, it won't start again
[03:07] <dwidmann> what?
[03:07] <dwidmann> why not ....
[03:08] <cloakable> No idea. I run k3b-rc2, and the command just sits there.
[03:08] <dwidmann> try doing killall k3b-rc2 ..... then re-running it?
[03:08] <dwidmann> had it crashed, or did you close it?
[03:08] <cloakable> crashed
[03:09] <dwidmann> that's odd, I've not crashed it yet
[03:09] <cloakable> dwidmann: just ran that, then ran k3b-rc2 again. Still nothing
[03:09] <morghanphoenix> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[03:09] <dwidmann> That's just weird, try logging out, logging back in, then running it
[03:10] <morghanphoenix> That's the result of glx info
[03:11] <morghanphoenix> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[03:11] <morghanphoenix> and that, what's wrong?
[03:12] <pete> Thanks again Linux_Galore... I have some reading to do...
[03:13] <morghanphoenix> is there a better channel to ask graphics questions in?
[03:14] <cloakable> Dammit, k3b zombied.
[03:15] <cloakable> Dammit, and it's blocking the normal k3b from starting up.
[03:17] <Ace2016>  is plf still active? and can someone point me to a sources list with a working repo url please, ackages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ doesn't work
[03:17] <Ace2016> what can i use instead of plf?
[03:18] <noiesmo> Ace2016, what package are you after
[03:18] <Jucato> Ace2016: what particular package are you looking for in PLF?
[03:18] <Jucato> lol
[03:18] <noiesmo> lol
[03:18] <Ace2016> i don't know i just want to look and see whats there
[03:19] <Jucato> I guess you can look around their site to see what packages they have before adding the repo
[03:19] <noiesmo> Jucato, I don't think they support ubuntu anymore there's nothing to see unfortunatly
[03:20] <jerp> i don't think plf is doing business
[03:21] <Jucato> noiesmo: seems like it, although their last news headline sort of says that Ubuntu is supported again...but maybe that's months old...
[03:23] <freeride> hello?
[03:24] <crimsun> goodbye?
[03:24] <freeride> no, hello ;-)
[03:24] <freeride> who's 'ere
[03:24] <freeride> I need sum elp :-/
[03:25] <freeride> besides psychological I mean
[03:25] <Ace2016> well if you ask someone might help
[03:25] <freeride> ok, I'll try that
[03:25] <freeride> my screen saver quit working
[03:25] <freeride> thats the question
[03:25] <freeride> in statement format
[03:25] <freeride> kubuntu on celeron 1ghz w/ 512 ram
[03:26] <freeride> any ideas?
[03:26] <Ace2016> so it just doesn't come up? have you tried different screensavers? i'm guessing this is a kde screensaver, is it opengl based? tried something simple like the clock?
[03:26] <elknof3> hi everybody
[03:26] <jerp> the best screensaver is the power switch, it never fails its duty
[03:26] <Ace2016> Hi
[03:26] <Ace2016> jerp: on the monitor
[03:27] <elknof3> im having a problem when i try to install firefox
[03:27] <freeride> I had fireworks working fine and then it just up and quit, clock doesnt work either, tried that
[03:28] <freeride> where is powerswitch? I'll try that one
[03:28] <jerp> freeride, you been through the 'System Settings' ?
[03:28] <freeride> wait, was that a joke? :-/
[03:28] <freeride> not funny :-p
[03:29] <cloakable> Well, the dvd rip/transcode starts :P
[03:31] <freeride_> well, hmm, anyone?
[03:31] <jerp> jimmy with your settings in ........ System Settings/Desktop/Screensaver
[03:32] <freeride_> jimmy with them?
[03:32] <freeride_> is that a technical term?
[03:32] <jerp> either that  or tinker
[03:33] <freeride_> hmm, I'm not educated with tinkering
[03:33] <freeride_> I'm good at clicking though
[03:33] <morghanphoenix> Is there a channel for WINE help?
[03:33] <jerp> well get in there and go click, click, click
[03:34] <crimsun> morghanphoenix: #winehq?
[03:34] <jerp> there are some that might be checked but aren't loaded..... best you can do is uncheck them
[03:34] <morghanphoenix> thar she be
[03:34] <morghanphoenix> thanks
[03:34] <freeride_> yeah, I did a lot of clicking
[03:34] <freeride_> nothing seems to help
[03:35] <jerp> use the test button to see if the come up and if they don't uncheck them
[03:35] <jerp> see if they...
[03:36] <freeride_> I'm not seeing any check boxes, the test works for all of the screensavers though
[03:36] <jerp> are you on dapper or edgy?
[03:37] <freeride_> good question, dapper I think,  how do I check that?
[03:37] <jerp> test is right next to setup
[03:37] <freeride_> I'm 90% sure it's dapper, I downloaded this a while back
[03:38] <cloakable> Does anyone here rip with k3b 1.0rc2?
[03:38] <jerp> highlight the screensaver and then hit test
[03:38] <freeride_> yeah
[03:38] <freeride_> I did that
[03:38] <freeride_> test works
[03:38] <freeride_> they all work in the test
[03:38] <freeride_> but they dont kick in like they are supposed too
[03:38] <freeride_> it WAS working
[03:38] <freeride_> and it quit
[03:38] <freeride_> I had fireworks running
[03:38] <freeride_> it worked just fine
[03:39] <freeride_> now boom, it's borked
[03:39] <jerp> one must be tweaked with a bug
[03:39] <freeride_> hmm, that sounds bad, what can I do
[03:40] <jerp> find which one it is and uncheck it if you don't want to email the author for assistance
[03:41] <freeride_> uncheck? I'm not seeing any check boxes
[03:41] <freeride_> I just highlight and click apply
[03:41] <freeride_> or test
[03:43] <Daisuke_Ido> any ideas as to why /dev/dsp would be locked when starting unreal tournament 2004?  nothing that i can see is using it, so i'm a little bit lost.
[03:43] <jerp> ok, I'm thinking that the checking and unchecking is incorporated with a particular theme?
[03:45] <freeride_> possibly
[03:45] <jerp> maybe not :\
[03:46] <freeride_> I'm using lipstik
[03:46] <Ace2016> as a theme or on your lips?
[03:46] <Jucato> ...
[03:46] <freeride_> both :-p
[03:46] <freeride_> kidding, it's my widget style?
[03:47] <jerp> I just hope the screensaver you're upset at losing isn't fuzzyflakes
[03:47] <freeride_> under appearance style
[03:47] <freeride_> lol, idk what fuzzy flakes is but it sounds like a breakfast cereal
[03:47] <Ace2016> i was just wondering, he could have just left the c out by mistake
[03:48] <jerp> click it and take a look at it
[03:49] <freeride_> I dont have it in my list
[03:49] <jerp> I don't know how it got into mine
[03:49] <jerp> it reminds me of pepto bismol
[03:49] <freeride_> I'd settle for anything right now, corn flakes if it has a screen saver
[03:50] <jerp> you always click apply in the bottom right corner?
[03:50] <freeride_> yeah
[03:52] <jerp> you need someone else who can give you a code or something to kick the code awake
[03:52] <freeride_> hmm...
[03:52] <freeride_> maybe I should just kick this machine awake
[03:52] <freeride_> or off a cliff
[03:58] <soulrider> !ntfs
[03:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[04:05] <whoremonger> anyone good with ndiswrapper?
[04:08] <menace> !adeptcrashfix
[04:08] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[04:08] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, i managed to get ut2k4 working
[04:09] <Daisuke_Ido> not a pleasant hack to get things working, but it did the job: 'killall arts' unlocked /dev/dsp to give me sound.
[04:10] <whoremonger> i will pay someone to solve this ndiswrapper issue for me
[04:10] <whoremonger> i'm at my wits end
[04:10] <Daisuke_Ido> what's the issue?
[04:10] <whoremonger> ok, i'm installing a wireless card
[04:10] <Daisuke_Ido> i can't promise i can help, but i can nod and smile
[04:10] <pianoboy3333> What's the default kde icon set?
[04:11] <Daisuke_Ido> okay
[04:11] <whoremonger> i've used ndiswrapper -i to load the driver, which it does
[04:11] <Daisuke_Ido> k
[04:11] <whoremonger> then ndiswrapper -l, and it lists it correctly
[04:11] <Daisuke_Ido> so far so good
[04:11] <whoremonger> then i do ndiswrapper -m as per a tutorial, and it throws- http://pastebin.com/846873
[04:13] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[04:14] <Daisuke_Ido> just looking at it, and i'm probably way off here (anyone that knows, feel free to correct me), it looks like you're using a unified driver (for a usb wifi dongle, and looks like two different pci cards)
[04:14] <Daisuke_Ido> how to fix that, i have no clue.
[04:14] <whoremonger> it's a dell 1390 built in in this lappy
[04:14] <Daisuke_Ido> do you know what the chipset is?
[04:15] <whoremonger> 4311
[04:15] <Daisuke_Ido> or is that it
[04:15] <whoremonger> broadcom 4311
[04:16] <whoremonger> i've read just about every tutorial out there for it
[04:16] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[04:16] <whoremonger> i even switch distros to kanotix and gave it a shot
[04:17] <Daisuke_Ido> the 4311 is somewhat supported natively
[04:17] <whoremonger> i don't get a wlan of any sort listed when i do iwconfig
[04:17] <whoremonger> i still haven't accomplished that yet
[04:18] <Daisuke_Ido> um...
[04:18] <Daisuke_Ido> do you speak german?
[04:18] <whoremonger> nein
[04:18] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[04:18] <whoremonger> lol
[04:18] <Daisuke_Ido> that won't help much then
[04:19] <Daisuke_Ido> the *only* hit i got for your exact issue
[04:19] <Daisuke_Ido> http://kanotix.com/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-19149.html
[04:21] <whoremonger> someone just told me to do some tail something command
[04:21] <whoremonger> and it gave me-
[04:21] <whoremonger> Dec 28 21:38:01 KanotixBox loadndisdriver: loadndisdriver: load_driver(361): couldn't load driver bcmwl5
[04:28] <Daisuke_Ido> tail dmesg?
[04:29] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, it's not loading the driver for some reason (thank you captain obvious!)
[04:29] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm not too good with ndiswrapper myself, but i figured i could try to help :\
[04:29] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry i can't give better advice
[04:29] <whoremonger> someone told me to delete all of the configuration files for ndiswrapper
[04:29] <whoremonger> i'm trying to find where they are now
[04:30] <Daisuke_Ido> um, i just saw that
[04:30] <Daisuke_Ido> let me look
[04:31] <Daisuke_Ido> did you blacklist the native support for the carD?
[04:32] <whoremonger> yeah, in the modsomething.d file
[04:32] <whoremonger> or some such
[04:32] <whoremonger> blacklist bcm43xx i think was the command
[04:32] <whoremonger> or entry
[04:32] <Daisuke_Ido> http://wiki.waningsun.net/index.php?title=Dell_E1405_%26_Linux_HOWTO
[04:32] <Daisuke_Ido> that one seems solid
[04:32] <Daisuke_Ido> but yes
[04:34] <whoremonger> lol, i believe that is the first one i ever tried
[04:34] <whoremonger> but let me try it once more, for good measure
[04:34] <whoremonger> thank you daisuke
[04:38] <LBB_> hi there!
[04:41] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome, and good luck
[04:41] <Daisuke_Ido> this is nice.  not like other linux channels i've visited, where the only helpful advice is "read the man pages" and "go back to windows, noob!"
[04:42] <family> If this is the wrong place, please let me know.  I use Fedora Core 5 at work; I've heard that kubuntu is much better, and am trying to set it up at home.  Er, I obviously don't know how to use the package manager correctly, and am finding it strange after using yum.  Is there someone who might be able to take a few minutes and walk me through a couple of things.
[04:43] <soulrider> indeed Daisuke_Ido
[04:43] <soulrider> but there snot many people on at th emoment
[04:43] <soulrider> family: ill help you as mucha s i can
[04:44] <family> Thank you very much, soul-rider.  My basic concerns is that I'm screwing up the repositories and installation procedure.
[04:44] <Daisuke_Ido> installation procedure as far as...
[04:44] <soulrider> could you please hold 5 minutes? theres somehting i need to do first
[04:45] <family> OK, soulrider.  Twill give me some time to get thoughts together.
[04:45] <Daisuke_Ido> family: i can help until soulrider gets back if you need it
[04:46] <family> I've gone to system and opened adept; then gone to the manage repositories view.  Thanks, Daisuke_ido.
[04:47] <family> I've enabled the us.archive.ubunut.com/ubuntu universe and multiverse for deb & deb-src.  Do I need to do the same for the security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lines?
[04:48] <Daisuke_Ido> i can't see why not
[04:49] <family> OK, I'll do that, and then see if it helps.
[04:49] <Daisuke_Ido> it's the security updates...  i think that was actually enabled already for me
[04:49] <Daisuke_Ido> i know it's enabled now...
[04:50] <family> Thanks, Daisuke_Ido (may I just type DI, or do you prefer the whole thing?).
[04:50] <Daisuke_Ido> either way
[04:50] <Daisuke_Ido> DI's certainly shorter
[04:51] <soulrider> just type dai and press tab
[04:51] <family> I use emacs a lot at work, and would like to install it.  (My apologies if you're a vi person.)  When I go to the emacs line on the Adept Manager and "Request Install", it comes back in the Requested column with "BREAK (install)".  Sorry, but that doesn't mean much to me.
[04:52] <Daisuke_Ido> that is odd.
[04:52] <Daisuke_Ido> that i haven't seen before.
[04:52] <soulrider> family: i suggets you first update the lists
[04:52] <soulrider> then do a dist upgrade
[04:52] <soulrider> and then try to install
[04:53] <Daisuke_Ido> of course, even on kubuntu, i usually use synaptic
[04:53] <soulrider> adept is the GUI for apt-get
[04:53] <soulrider> id rather use the console
[04:53] <soulrider> and aptitude seems to be better than adept/apt-get
[04:53] <Daisuke_Ido> aptitude
[04:53] <soulrider> family: do "sudo aptitude update" then do "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[04:54] <soulrider> that will leave your system up-to date
[04:54] <family> Soulrider & DI, I'm open to anything.  I use the CLI for yum, and am quite happy.  I thought I'd done the update of databases; I'm doing the sudo aptitude stuff now
[04:55] <soulrider> great
[04:55] <soulrider> im gonna see if i can install emacs
[04:55] <soulrider> i actually have no idea what its for :P
[04:55] <family> It said all is copasetic (0 packages upgraded.)     :-)
[04:56] <soulrider> did you do update first?
[04:56] <family> Yes, update first.   (I'd done that about an hour ago using The Adept Manager or something)
[04:57] <soulrider> well
[04:57] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[04:57] <family> I'm looking at the man page on aptitude right now.
[04:57] <soulrider> you enabled repositories now
[04:57] <soulrider> so you should do it again
[04:57] <soulrider> when you enable a repository its a good idea to do an update, so you get the lists for the new repo
[04:57] <family> Ah, OK.  Yes, I did it again using sudo aptitude update , etc., as you said above.
[04:58] <soulrider> ok
[04:58] <soulrider> now try
[04:58] <soulrider> sudo aptitude install emacs
[04:58] <soulrider> on some very rare ocasions, adept will refuse to install something
[04:59] <knapp> Hi. I created a Video DVD using Devede (on the PAL setting) and then burned it to disk using k3b. When I put it in the DVD player it says "Cannot play DVD due to area regieon restriction" or something like that. Do I need to encode it again in NTSC?
[05:00] <family> Problem:  unmet dependencies:  emacs21-nox, depends on emacs21-bin-common (virtual package).
[05:00] <soulrider> knapp: its probably region locked
[05:00] <soulrider> your DVD player wont be able to open it
[05:00] <knapp> It's a Sony. I didn't think Sonys had that?
[05:00] <soulrider> family: are you just doing sudo aptitude install emacs or something else ?
[05:01] <soulrider> sony  is evil....
[05:01] <family> BTW, I presume that aptitude search is the command to, say, search for all emacs packages.
[05:01] <knapp> Maybe a Xbox360 would play it?
[05:01] <soulrider> dont know
[05:01] <family> Soulrider:  at present, just sudo aptitude install emacs
[05:01] <knapp> ok well thanks for your help soulrider
[05:01] <soulrider> uhm, let me look into it family
[05:01] <family> Thanks, soulrider.
[05:01] <soulrider> knapp: try and get some info on regions on DVDs from wikipedia
[05:02] <soulrider> it will explain the problem better than i will be able to
[05:02] <soulrider> some DVDs can only play on some parts of the world
[05:03] <soulrider> family: its installing for me, the only thing i can think of is that maybe you didnt quite enable your repos well
[05:03] <soulrider> if you want i can give you my repo list which is probably more complete
[05:03] <knapp> yeah, im semi-familiar with that stuff. Is there a way I can encode it to a specific regieon (North America) ?
[05:03] <soulrider> and you will find some updates there
[05:03] <soulrider> for open office that are not on the official repos
[05:03] <soulrider> knapp: you will want region 1 then
[05:04] <soulrider> i havnt used that program so i cant tell you, sorry :(
[05:04] <soulrider> there might be a way to remove the region code completelly from the DVD though
[05:04] <family> Soulrider (may I abbreviate it SR):  I'm open to additional repos
[05:04] <soulrider> family
[05:04] <soulrider> type sou and press tab
[05:04] <soulrider> !paste
[05:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:05] <family> soulrider: neat!  tab completion of people on the channel!
[05:05] <soulrider> indeeed :)
[05:06] <family> OK the pastebin came up with a "Paste something", but I think that I need to unpaste something.
[05:06] <soulrider> family, youre gonna need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:06] <soulrider> you will need super cow powers for that :P
[05:06] <soulrider> that was for me actually :P
[05:07] <family> soulrider: I've opened it in nano
[05:07] <soulrider> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39275/ see if you get a "make a correction" box where you can take the text from
[05:07] <soulrider> you dont want to remove the numbers manually
[05:07] <soulrider> family: did you open nano with sudo ?
[05:07] <family> soulrider: yes, with sudo
[05:07] <soulrider> great!
[05:09] <family> soulrider: I hope you don't mind, but it'll take a few minutes to go through it, copy & paste, and ask you questions.  :-)   I suspect that I won't need all the edgy eft stuff, as I'm using 6.06    Do I just change edgy to dapper?
[05:09] <soulrider> ohhh
[05:09] <soulrider> better yet
[05:09] <family> soulrider: BTW, I'm open to upgrading to 6.10
[05:10] <soulrider> !easysource
[05:10] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:10] <soulrider> that will make a repository list for you :)
[05:10] <family> soulrider: I'm confused again.  Source-o-matic (ubotu?)
[05:11] <soulrider> ubotu: is a bot, he slike the channel slave
[05:11] <soulrider> go to that site
[05:11] <soulrider> and you can compile your repo list :)
[05:11] <soulrider> so you know you wont screw anything up
[05:13] <family> soulrider: You are *very* optimistic.  We ancient flatti can screw up most anything.
[05:13] <family> Some questions
[05:13] <soulrider> lol, dont worry
[05:14] <knivage> Hi :0
[05:14] <family> soulrider: 1. My main concern is getting a stable system that my family can use for e.g., homework, mp3 players (wife's Creative Zen V), and the like.
[05:14] <knivage> *:)
[05:14] <soulrider> ok
[05:15] <soulrider> family: unless they know how to sudo, they wont screw anything up :P
[05:15] <soulrider> thats the wonders of linux :P
[05:15] <family> soulrider: 1a Is 6.06 (dapper) fine, or should I go ahead and update to edgy----and if so, how
[05:15] <Daisuke_Ido> after a few months, i'm trying to figure out how any music fan can live without amarok
[05:15] <soulrider> i think that yes, you should upgrade
[05:15] <soulrider> lol Daisuke_Ido
[05:15] <soulrider> familty, i did a clean install
[05:15] <soulrider> im not into upgrading
[05:16] <soulrider> but lets ask the wonderful bot, maybe he knows how to upgrade
[05:16] <soulrider> !upgrade
[05:16] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:16] <family> soulrider & DI:  I use amarok at work, but it's the family who are into multimedia.
[05:16] <family> soulrider: I gather that <shriedk> work causes the bot to respond?
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[05:17] <soulrider> ahh yes
[05:17] <soulrider> you can ask him by doing !
[05:17] <soulrider> hes a smart guy :P
[05:18] <soulrider> family: you might want to print https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade and follow the upgrade
[05:18] <soulrider> although i think printing is evil
[05:19] <family> soulrider: very good.
[05:19] <terran4000> Hello, was just wondering ... how can I change the mod1 modifier mapping to include ALT_R also?
[05:19] <soulrider> terran4000: no idea :(
[05:19] <family> soulrider: Hey, I spent some quality time with my computer today getting it to print under 6.06
[05:19] <soulrider> lol
[05:19] <soulrider> i never printed anything with ym computer
[05:19] <soulrider> dont like killing trees =/
[05:19] <terran4000> hmm >_>
[05:19] <max_> where do i turn off the drop shadows on windows
[05:20] <soulrider> terran4000: maybe look in the wiki or http://ubuntuforums.org
[05:20] <LBB> hi all!
[05:20] <family> soulrider: Alas, my kids' teachers like things on paper.
 only if they made these things easier ...
[05:20] <family> soulrider: As does my wife when cooking.  I must admit that I've quite a fondness for holding a book
[05:21] <family> and reading
[05:21] <soulrider> max_: go to system settings > window behaviour
[05:21] <soulrider> im assuming youa ctivated it there
[05:21] <soulrider> well, i dont like printing when its not absolutely needed
[05:21] <soulrider> unless you have a computer screen in your kitchen its fine
[05:22] <soulrider> but osme people, just print such useless stuff
[05:22] <soulrider> and they dont save paper
[05:22] <max_> where is the drop shadow at in there?
[05:22] <soulrider> max_: in translucency tab
[05:22] <soulrider> im guessing you enabled it there
[05:22] <max_> thats disabled
[05:22] <soulrider> uhm
[05:22] <Daisuke_Ido> hey, where do i turn *on* drop shadows...
[05:23] <soulrider> i didnt know it could be enabled anywhere else
[05:23] <soulrider> ohh
[05:23] <soulrider> sorry
[05:23] <soulrider> i thought it said OFF
[05:23] <Daisuke_Ido> no no
[05:23] <soulrider> to turn them on, activate where it sais translucency and shadows
[05:23] <Daisuke_Ido> he's asking about turning it off
[05:23] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm asking about turning them on :D
[05:23] <soulrider> max_: youre not using beryl are you ?
[05:24] <family> soulrider: So, I'll follow the following steps.  1) do the update; 2) update repositiories; 3) see if I can figure things out on my own; 4) come back for help!  :-)     Well, at least trees are quite a renewable (sustainable) resource when used for paper, but that's no excuse for being wasteful.
[05:24] <soulrider> Daisuke_Ido: go to where i told max
[05:24] <soulrider> family: maybe its better to do a clean install ?
[05:24] <soulrider> it depends on you though
[05:24] <Daisuke_Ido> done that, but i get no translucency though
[05:24] <max_> yes, im usin beryl
[05:24] <soulrider> i allways feel my system will be fresher
[05:24] <soulrider> max_: its in the beryl settings, somewhere
[05:25] <max_> thats what i thought
[05:25] <soulrider> Daisuke_Ido: you might need to restart X
[05:25] <max_> but they are telling me ts kde
[05:25] <soulrider> max_: it must be beryl
[05:25] <soulrider> the KDE shadows are disabled
[05:25] <soulrider> so it has to be beryl
[05:25] <soulrider> shadows are pretty though, why turn them off? :P
[05:27] <family> soulrider: If I can do the upgrade, I'd prefer that.   The directions seem straightforward.  The sed command is a bit different than I use (s/bad/good/g ---- I don't remember the g, and I'm not familiar with the xargs command, but otherwise . . . .
[05:27] <soulrider> well
[05:27] <soulrider> copying and pasting should do it :P
[05:28] <soulrider> family: if you have any issues just contact me
[05:28] <soulrider> i try to be on here as much as possible
[05:28] <soulrider> but im on msn/aim/yahoo too
[05:30] <TheDebugger> anyone tried that beryl decoration manager for KDE? ( Like emerald )?
[05:30] <family> soulrider: Thanks much for your help.  we'll see what happens.
[05:30] <soulrider> TheDebugger: ive used it with beryl
[05:31] <TheDebugger> And?
[05:31] <soulrider> good luck family!
[05:31] <soulrider> its ok
[05:31] <TheDebugger> emerald is better?
[05:31] <soulrider> but its meant to eb used with beryl
[05:31] <soulrider> not alone
[05:31] <Daisuke_Ido> oooh
[05:31] <family> soulrider: Let me ask another question.  The time-stamps I see are now ca. 14:31.  I'm in MST (~21:31.  Where is the IRC?
[05:31] <Daisuke_Ido> it's pretty
[05:31] <family> Daisuke_Ido: Thank you, too, for your help.
[05:31] <soulrider> family: it must be your computer
[05:31] <soulrider> i see
[05:31] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[05:31] <soulrider> 02:30 :P
[05:32] <Daisuke_Ido> and soulrider, thanks, restarting X made all the difference
[05:32] <TheDebugger> I think it's "Aquamarine"
[05:32] <TheDebugger> Anyway, i'll try it at home
[05:32] <soulrider> TheDebugger: i dont think you can use emerald without beryl
[05:32] <soulrider> but im probably wrong
[05:33] <TheDebugger> I think you're right
[05:33] <family> soulrider: Yes, I see that my computer is showing 14:31 in the panel clock.  Ach, something else to investigate.  :-(
[05:33] <TheDebugger> I'm just saying that emerald is not the only decorator for beryl
[05:33] <soulrider> lol
[05:33] <soulrider> ahh
[05:33] <soulrider> i had no idea there were others
[05:34] <will> Alright, I just made the switch from SuSE to Kubuntu.  Let's just hope it actually lets me update my video drivers for once...
[05:34] <will> !ati > will
[05:34] <christopher> man this is so annoying, I just installed kubuntu and it wont boot unless I do it in recovery mode then use startx
[05:34] <soulrider> will: i doubt you will have problems
[05:34] <christopher> it used to work on this machine too
[05:34] <TheDebugger> christopher: What is the error?
[05:35] <soulrider> i will be right back
[05:35] <soulrider> need to restart X :P
[05:35] <christopher> TheDebugger: no error, just frezzes as the bar is going across
[05:36] <christopher> how stable is 6.10 right now anyway?
[05:36] <soulrider> yay
[05:36] <soulrider> i got some pretty looking shadows now :P
[05:36] <Daisuke_Ido> pretty stable from my perspective
[05:36] <TheDebugger> christopher: For me, it's nice
[05:36] <Daisuke_Ido> soulrider: they look nice
[05:36] <soulrider> indeed Daisuke_Ido
[05:36] <bLaZeD> !restricted
[05:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:37] <christopher> TheDebugger, is there some way to see something other than the boot up bar to help me debug?
[05:37] <TheDebugger> christopher: perhaps you could check dmesg, not sure
[05:38] <christopher> can't check it unless I manage to boot
[05:38] <will> soulrider: It's  made my Xserver not want to start before, and I don't know what to edit, Just change the driver back to "Vesa"? Don't know
[05:39] <soulrider> will: maybe edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[05:39] <will> soulrider: Well, but what in that is what I meant.
[05:39] <will> soulrider: Incase it locks me out
[05:40] <soulrider> i have an Nvidia card so i probably wont be of much help
[05:40] <soulrider> but if you want to change the driver
[05:40] <soulrider> you will need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:41] <soulrider> but back it up before editing, just in case
[05:41] <will> soulrider: No problem.  I think I know what locked me out anyway, It was probably I forgot to remove fglrx from restricted modules
[05:41] <will> soulrider: So it couldn't find any drivers therefor error'd itself
[05:41] <soulrider> ok
[05:41] <soulrider> well, good luck anyways!
[05:42] <will> soulrider: Thanks : )
[05:46] <soulrider> im going to bed
[05:46] <soulrider> see you all!
[05:46] <Daisuke_Ido> have a good night and thanks for the tips
[05:46] <soulrider_away> see ya!! ^^
[05:49] <bLaZeD> !iso
[05:49] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning.
[05:50] <BeLinux> i start Adept, i type in my root password when it asks me to (it accepts it), and after that i get the message that the package database is read only and that i must be root to install them...
[05:50] <BeLinux> anyone knowsss why
[05:52] <smaggard> try restarting maybe, iunno
[05:53] <Steven_M_> hi all
[06:00] <evox> Hello?
[06:01] <evox> In Kubuntu is it possible for me to use my USB jump drive?
[06:01] <evox> View and transfer files etc...
[06:01] <crimsun> yes.
[06:01] <evox> Well how can I acess it?
[06:01] <crimsun> plug in it.
[06:01] <evox> Because its plugged in..
[06:01] <crimsun> plug it in, rather.
[06:02] <evox> But Nothings happing
[06:02] <crimsun> was it cleanly unmounted last time?
[06:02] <crimsun> it won't automount successfully if it wasn't.
[06:02] <evox> This is the first time its been plugged in to Linux
[06:02] <evox> ok now for somereason it decided to show up
[06:02] <crimsun> paste the output from ``dmesg |tail -20'' onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:03] <crimsun> heh.
[06:03] <evox> wtf
[06:03] <evox> It asked me what I wanted to do to manage it
[06:03] <evox> I hit cancel
[06:03] <evox> Then My tool bar dissappeared
[06:04] <evox> If my memory serves correct dont I right click then hit command and type kicker?
[06:05] <evox> Ok anyway
[06:05] <evox> Now.....I started Amarok....And Hit Install MP3 Capability
[06:05] <evox> it says it was sucessfull
[06:05] <evox> but When I restart and play music...I hear nothing
[06:07] <evox> Anyone?
[06:07] <praetor> evox: try sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[06:08] <crimsun> do you hear any other system sounds?
[06:08] <evox> I hear the start up sound and etc
[06:08] <evox> when I first turn the comp on
[06:08] <evox> and those kind of things
[06:08] <praetor> do you hear sound when you log into kde?
[06:09] <evox> yea
[06:09] <praetor> ok, try install that package then
[06:09] <praetor> im not sure how what amarok intalls through its own option, but i install said package and amarok plays mp3s fine afterwards
[06:12] <evox> evox@evox-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[06:12] <evox> Password:
[06:12] <evox> Reading package lists... Done
[06:12] <evox> Building dependency tree
[06:12] <evox> Reading state information... Done
[06:12] <evox> libxine-extracodecs is already the newest version.
[06:12] <evox> Thats what it says
[06:12] <praetor> thats pretty strange
[06:12] <praetor> do you hear sound when you try to play an ogg with amarok?
[06:13] <evox> i dont have any oggs
[06:13] <evox> All I have are a few MP3
[06:13] <praetor> amarok comes with 1 when you first install/start it
[06:13] <praetor> the 'welcome to amarok' track
[06:13] <evox> Its not showing up
[06:15] <will> I need help, I can't update my drivers without it not letting XServer start.  I'm on live CD now;  I'm about to re-install is there ANY WAY I could get to my XOrg.conf?
[06:16] <will> I'm using a raden x700 and updating drivers from repositories using the ati binaries found in !ati
[06:19] <computer> is there a tutorial on how to use autostart?
[06:20] <will> How can I boot Kubuntu in console....  I reallly need to edit my xorg.conf or I can't use my computer I'm on th elive cd right now
[06:21] <smoothies> how do u mean
[06:21] <smoothies> u want kubuntu in ur ms-dos console?
[06:21] <smoothies> o
[06:21] <smoothies> do u mean boot kubuntu into console mode?
[06:21] <will> smoothies: lol... dos...  I mean I want it without my xserver running so I can modified my xorg.conf to let me turn on
[06:21] <will> yeah
[06:22] <smoothies> yeah u can do alt-ctrl f1, then kill kde
[06:22] <will> at the login screen?
[06:22] <smoothies> or can u not get into the login screen either
[06:22] <smoothies> yes
[06:22] <smoothies> at the login screen
[06:22] <smoothies> if u just want to
[06:22] <smoothies> edit xorg.conf, u don't have to kill kde
[06:22] <will> alt ctrl f1 *Repeates to self* Alright be back sooner or later
[06:22] <smoothies> also
[06:22] <smoothies> also
[06:22] <will> ?
[06:23] <smoothies> just making sure u can get back, i was just gonna say f1 thru f6 are all konsole mode
[06:23] <smoothies> f7 is gui mode again
[06:23] <will> k
[06:23] <will> brb
[06:23] <smoothies> or u can press xstart
[06:23] <smoothies> or type startx i meant
[06:23] <will> startx to launch xserver?
[06:23] <Steven_M_> Even with splash disabled the startup squence of edgy doesn't seem to be as detailed as brezzy's and dapper's was, is there anyway to make edgy's startup sequence more detailed?
[06:23] <will> no space?
[06:23] <will> l
[06:23] <will> *k
[06:23] <smoothies> yes
[06:24] <will> brb
[06:24] <smoothies> bye
[06:24] <smoothies> i meant see u in a bit
[06:29] <fierce> Hey all.. i've got a problem I cant solve.  I am running a process but want to log out and keep it running, but I forgot to screen it.  How can I transfer this to a screen?  I tried to 'CTRL+Z' to suspend it, then run screen, then 'fg' inside of screen but it says no process found.. How can I do this :(
[06:30] <Linux_Galore> hmm I cant seem to get kubuntu to read the new resolution settings on xorg.conf
[06:31] <Linux_Galore> krandrtray keep using the old settings
[06:31] <Daisuke_Ido> did you restart X?
[06:32] <Linux_Galore> Daisuke_Ido: that and reboot
[06:32] <Daisuke_Ido> hrmm
[06:32] <Linux_Galore> Daisuke_Ido: same setup on Mnadriva worked fine when I added the extra resolution
[06:32] <Linux_Galore> Daisuke_Ido: showed up in kranr straight away
[06:33] <Linux_Galore> krandr*
[06:33] <Linux_Galore> also the kde monitor tool isnt working
[06:33] <Daisuke_Ido> that's an issue i've yet to run into
[06:34] <Daisuke_Ido> i just added the proper resolutions to xorg.conf and restarted x, and they were immediately available
[06:34] <Linux_Galore> I get "Module Monitor and Display cant be loaded"
[06:35] <Linux_Galore> wonder what package thats from
[06:36] <hamiii> I just installed Kubuntu. I set a root passwd. Then su visudo and added my user name to the file. In groups I'm listed as admin. I was able to get add remove programs to run once. Now I get conversation with sudo failed?
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> why would you need to set a root password?
[06:37] <flaccid> Daisuke_Ido: a binary that has to run interactive and asks for root password
[06:37] <Daisuke_Ido> as in...  a package manager or something?
[06:37] <hamiii> Because I'm used to dropping to a shell, switching to root and taking care of things.
[06:38] <Daisuke_Ido> you should just be able to use your own password
[06:38] <flaccid> you are using your own password for sudo?
[06:38] <Daisuke_Ido> that's the way it's set up.
[06:38] <hamiii> Yes
[06:38] <flaccid> have a look at syslog
[06:38] <hamiii> Yes I am using my own pass for sudo not the root pass
[06:38] <Daisuke_Ido> to eliminate the need to even have a root password set
[06:41] <hamiii> Syslog Can't open default user face
[06:41] <hamiii> Defualt passkey ....
[06:41] <flaccid> google that hamii
[06:46] <hamiii> google default user face?
[06:46] <flaccid> google the error as per syslog
[06:49] <will> ls
[06:50] <will> Oops, though I was in konsole for a sec there.  Does anyone here use Kubuntu with a ATi radeon card (Maybe x700?) and has updated drivers working?
[06:50] <flaccid> will: i use that but its a radeon 9600
[06:51] <will> flaccid: Are you on Edgy?
[06:51] <flaccid> yep
[06:51] <will> flaccid: Did you ever run into any trouble with installing the ati binary drivers locking you out of your desktop and not letting Xserver work properly?
[06:51] <flaccid> don't think so
[06:51] <flaccid> check your X log
[06:51] <pluto> Can someone please tell me the ubuntu equivilant of this directory?  /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input
[06:52] <will> To late, just started to re-install.  I'm debating using vesa drivers =(
[06:53] <flaccid> too late indeed
[06:53] <flaccid> vesa is crap
[06:53] <crimsun> pluto: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input
[06:53] <crimsun> pluto: note that we use the modular X.Org scheme.
[06:53] <will> flaccid: I don't have much choice.  I can't install drivers
[06:54] <flaccid> !ati
[06:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:54] <juan> are there any good guides to understanding xorg?
[06:54] <flaccid> did you read that will?
[06:54] <pluto> crimsun: will that affect the driver installation I'm doing?
[06:54] <crimsun> pluto: no idea; you haven't given any additional details.
[06:55] <will> flaccid: Yep, I followed it word by word on the repositories version.  It just locked me out, it said I could vim my xorg.conf but when I did it was still at vesa...
[06:55] <pluto> It's a touchscreen driver for Xorg 6
[06:55] <flaccid> will change it then :)
[06:55] <crimsun> pluto: ...6? No, that won't work.
[06:56] <will> flaccid: I'm gunna try to do the install from ati.com on my new install
[06:56] <pluto> Why's that crimsun?
[06:56] <crimsun> pluto: because we don't use X.Org 6.x
[06:56] <crimsun> we use 7.1
[06:56] <flaccid> you can do that yes. i think there are possible issues however doing the full prop. install
[06:56] <VR_> !mp3
[06:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:56] <crimsun> pluto: (probably ABI bump)
[06:56] <will> flaccid: Oh my.  there's conflicting opinions, In the repositories it says to makesure it's not blacklisted but it says it has to be blacklisted in the first one.  Quite confusing
[06:56] <pluto> What are we using then?
[06:57] <Pirate-king> what is the best and easiest program to web cam with?
[06:57] <flaccid> will: yes i came across other issues with ati. i had to do a lot of manual stuff and spent a lot of time. its things like this that make linux unusable to the mainstream populous
[06:58] <will> flaccid: It's sad to, It's really easy once it's set up.  My expieriences with all the open software have been great.
[06:58] <will> flaccid: I've
[06:58] <will> flaccid: **Ive preached linux to a couple people, only 1 of which still uses it
[06:59] <flaccid> trust me will there at least 3 major bugs/issues outstanding in the installation of ati drivers for linux, particularly debian/ubuntu
[06:59] <will> flaccid: SuSE wasn't so easy either...
[06:59] <will> flaccid: I never got it working on SuSE
[06:59] <will> flaccid: I just used vesa
[06:59] <flaccid> yes i'm talking linux in general. windows is better in this case
[06:59] <flaccid> thats what is sad about it. linux still doesn't equal microsoft in a lot of stuff
[07:00] <will> flaccid: They're different;  I know this is strange but you can't compare linux to windows justly.  They just excel in completly different areas
[07:00] <flaccid> you can compare
[07:00] <flaccid> comparison of desktop operating systems...
[07:00] <will> flaccid: But you wont get far.  Windows powerusers (The majority) will always get more attention from professional software developpers.
[07:01] <will> But if you're an OSS person (aye) linux is good
[07:01] <flaccid> thats right
[07:01] <will> I'll be right back, Restarting off of my liveCD
[07:01] <flaccid> see how windows is more 'stable' in this situation..
[07:01] <will> flaccid: Windows IS usable in all fairness
[07:01] <flaccid> or perhaps reliable is a better term
[07:01] <will> flaccid: Most people wont crash it that often just in word/IE
[07:02] <will> flaccid: Anyway, be right back
[07:02] <flaccid> its 2006. people should have to stuff around with installation of drivers on linux. have a loot at mac, its unix and doesn't install terminal by default..
[07:02] <flaccid> should=shouldn't
[07:03] <flaccid> anyway thats my sook on the progress or lack of progress of linux
[07:04] <will> Alright I'm back.
[07:08] <flaccid> !envy > fildo
[07:09] <will> Why couldn't there be a envy for ati =(
[07:09] <crimsun> because you haven't made it.
[07:10] <will> Psh, I don't need a script IM ALL MAN.
[07:10] <will> o.0
[07:10] <crimsun> your whine above utterly negates that.
[07:11] <will> Tough guys cry sometimes >>;
[07:11] <will> Specially E-Toughguys.  Don't forget the internet factor
[07:11] <crimsun> you're no chuck norris.
[07:12] <will> You're just sayin that cause you're afraid of my roundhouse kick.  Anyway, to not derail from the channels purpose, I shall remain quiet untill a support question arrises.
[07:12] <flaccid> i'm as smooth as vanilla ice :0
[07:14] <will> Dayum dats smooth...?
[07:16] <Pirate-king> how do you universe enable?
[07:16] <Jucato> !universe
[07:16] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:17] <flaccid> !repos > Pirate-king
[07:17] <flaccid> oops
[07:17] <flaccid> my lag
[07:17] <Linux_Galore> YAY! resolution fixed
[07:18] <Linux_Galore> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:18] <Pirate-king> Im ther
[07:19] <Linux_Galore> so much for the graphical tools
[07:19] <Linux_Galore> ended using a command line tool
[07:20] <flaccid> sux hey
[07:20] <Linux_Galore> bugger got to disable compiz to get 3d back
[07:21] <FHX> Hm. Could someone offer advice? I've been trying to install Kubuntu Edgy Eft using a burned CD (md5 checksums tally) but the Live desktop won't even load - it just brings me to an interface similar to command prompt's, that says: ubuntu@ubuntu. (Running on a 32-bit Pentium D duo-core dell, Windows OS)
[07:21] <Pirate-king> what is the best and easiest program to web cam with?
[07:22] <FHX> I also tried installing using a Dapper-install-cd shipped to me by Kubuntu (which worked previously with my old computer) but the same problem occurs - only this time it freezes at the loading screen, where the status bar doesn't budge.
[07:24] <hamiii> \join #peanut-lug
[07:24] <fowlduck-> FHX: use the alternative installer
[07:24] <ubuntusudo619> can somebody help me w/ installing GNOME under kubuntu??
[07:25] <fowlduck-> ubuntusudo619: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:25] <fowlduck-> done!
[07:25] <ubuntusudo619> k i'll go try that. thanx
[07:25] <fowlduck-> np :)
[07:26] <will> I need help, I need to do a sudo module-assistant prepare,update (As following the guide) but it says command not found...
[07:26] <ubuntusudo619> fowlduck: konsole says it can't find the package
[07:26] <FHX> fowlduck-: Hum..okay I'll try that. Thanks
[07:27] <will> I'm following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:27] <crimsun> will: well, did you install module-assistant?
[07:27] <smoothies> has anyone used xfreecursors here?
[07:27] <Daisuke_Ido> i remember...  i got a shipment of hoary cds
[07:27] <fowlduck-> ubuntusudo619: wow, that's a new one for me, it can't fund ubuntu-desktop?
[07:27] <FHX> Oh one more thing. I resized my main windows partition and now i've got two bits of unallocated space that aren't merged, is there a way to merge them together? Or can I merge them through the alternate install cd?
[07:27] <will> crimsun: Never said to anywhere, And I checked repositories and it didn't show...
[07:27] <Daisuke_Ido> and several of them were corrupt :(
[07:28] <ubuntusudo619> fowlduck: ttly
[07:28] <fowlduck-> ubuntusudo619: if you can paste the command you typed, the
[07:29] <ubuntusudo619> fowlduck: unless there's a Gnome 2.16 .DEB file i can install myself?
[07:29] <fowlduck-> ubuntusudo619: if you can pastebin the command you typed, the error you received, and a copy of your sources.list, we may be able to track down the issue
[07:29] <ubuntusudo619> k hold on
[07:29] <fowlduck-> ubuntusudo619: there are many many many dependencies that need to be satisfied which is easiest to do through your package manager
[07:30] <smoothies> is there a place where i can get window vista looking cursors, i don't know if they're called cursors, but i just like that circle'ish thing when stuff loads, sort of like the one that already comes with kubuntu, but that looks nicer =) thx all
[07:30] <ubuntusudo619> fowlduck::  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktopReading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency treeReading state information... DoneE: Couldn't find package ubuntu-desktop
[07:30] <will> What's the command to make my session run as root?
[07:30] <unix_infidel> sudo
[07:31] <unix_infidel> !sudo
[07:31] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:31] <ubuntusudo619> sudo halt lol
[07:31] <will> To make the session, not just the command
[07:31] <unix_infidel> sudo su
[07:31] <ubuntusudo619> sudo reboot
[07:31] <N3rg4r> hey now!
[07:31] <smoothies> what's the differnce between bootsplash and splash screens
[07:31] <fowlduck-> ubuntusudo619: paste your sources list to www.pastebin.ca
[07:31] <ubuntusudo619> nothing
[07:31] <flaccid> ubuntusudo619 is main repos enabled
[07:32] <ubuntusudo619> huh??
[07:33] <flaccid> ubuntusudo619: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:35] <ubuntusudo619> what folder would  /etc/apt/sources.list be under?
[07:36] <abattoir> ubuntusudo619: /etc/apt
[07:36] <N3rg4r> /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:36] <abattoir> ubuntusudo619: sources.list is the name of the file
[07:36] <abattoir> ubuntusudo619: /etc/apt/sources.list is the full path to it
[07:36] <N3rg4r> i have a little problem m8s
[07:36] <fowlduck-> ubuntusudo619: type 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' into the console then paste it into www.pastebin.ca
[07:37] <N3rg4r> every time i start KDE i get an error
[07:37] <thelubix> why does netbeans only work in KDE and not gnome
[07:38] <fowlduck-> thelubix: i bet it works in both, it just uses qt
[07:39] <thelubix> i dunno fowlduck- it only works in KDE for me
[07:39] <N3rg4r> the file protocol dyed unexpectedly, the window title is Kdesktop
[07:39] <N3rg4r> *died
[07:39] <fowlduck-> thelubix: check its' dependencies and make sure they're installed.  Also, if it depends on services launched when KDE runs, those could be launched
[07:39] <momal> How can I kill a process from command "kill -9 PID" I run that and it is still running help!!.. I need a way to kill it without rebooting.
[07:39] <ubuntusudo619> to fowlduck and flaccid: http://pastebin.ca/295266
[07:40] <fowlduck-> momal: kill -HUP pid
[07:40] <ubuntusudo619> >:-(                http://pastebin.ca/295266
[07:41] <intelikey> qustion; in the init scripts, what is the purpose of the colen in  ": exit 0" ?       doesn't "exit 0" do the same thing ?
[07:41] <thelubix> fowlduck-: i have both kde and gnome installed when i try to bring up Netbeans in GNOME the windows just is a blank gray
[07:41] <ubuntusudo619> i need help!!!!!!
[07:41] <momal> fowlduck: It didn't die :(
[07:42] <ubuntusudo619> i'm feeling very gnomeless
[07:42] <fowlduck-> thelubix: probably some service is depended upon by netbeans that launches when KDE launches.  Or it's something I know nothing about.  This is just what I've deduced from your descriptions
[07:43] <N3rg4r> every time i start KDE i get an error
[07:43] <fowlduck-> ubuntusudo619: you have duplicate sources in that file.  I don't know for certain, but that could mess with it.  Try sudo apt-get update
[07:43] <N3rg4r> the file protocol died unexpectedly, the window title is Kdesktop
[07:43] <thelubix> KDE is bad i just use it
[07:43] <intelikey> ubuntusudo619   ahhhh why do lines 34 and 35 exist ?
[07:44] <fowlduck-> momal: -9 and -HUP should kill the process, I'm surprised it isn't.  I'm sorry I can't help more, that really should be working.
[07:44] <thelubix> KDE IS AWEFUL
[07:44] <fowlduck-> ha
[07:44] <fowlduck-> wrong channel to say that
[07:44] <momal> fowlduck-: yea -9 usually works for me but it just wont die >_<
[07:44] <intelikey> you really don't need or want repetes in there ubuntusudo619
[07:45] <thelubix> fowlduck-: i am really not a fan
[07:45] <fowlduck-> i would think it would cause breakage
[07:45] <N3rg4r> so anyone has any idea????
[07:45] <thelubix> gnome makes more sense to me
[07:45] <N3rg4r> please??
[07:45] <thelubix> are kde people some how psycologically different from gnome people??
[07:45] <thelubix> what do you think?
[07:45] <intelikey> momal pstree and see what the parent process is ?     what are you trying to kill.
[07:45] <fowlduck-> thelubix: sounds like a better discussion for the kde channel
[07:46] <Jucato> fowlduck-: not even. it's an -offtopic discussion
[07:46] <fowlduck-> Jucato: point taken
[07:46] <N3rg4r> the file protocol died unexpectedly, the window title is Kdesktop
[07:46] <N3rg4r> please??
[07:46] <momal> split... I was spliting a file but I ran it with & so i could close the ssh to server... but its kinda killing my server so I don't want to do it.
[07:46] <momal> intelikey: ^^
[07:47] <fowlduck-> N3rg4r: your installation is broken in some way.  I don't know how to troubleshoot this, but I would check the logs in /var/logs and the check the output of dmesg
[07:47] <thelubix> oh so this is like one of those heavily modded on topic fests?
[07:48] <momal> inti --- SCManager ----- SCManger | and has split listed under that
[07:48] <N3rg4r> fowlduck-, it also appeared when i inserted the kubuntu live cd before installing
[07:48] <N3rg4r> it may be the cd??
[07:48] <fowlduck-> thelubix: well, people listen and chat in off-topic when they want to waste time, people come here to help and be helped, and discuss on-topic stuff
[07:49] <fowlduck-> N3rg4r: wow, that's really weird then, I'm not sure.
[07:50] <intelikey> momal try killing it's parrent ?
[07:50] <momal> its just listed under scmanager so its parent is init -- scmanager
[07:50] <N3rg4r> fowlduck-, i was thinking in reinstalling KDE, how do i do that. Idont know how to move in the shell
[07:51] <fowlduck-> N3rg4r: reinstalling kde is an interesting proposition, i unfortunately don't know how to properly and safely do this.
[07:51] <N3rg4r> damn
[07:51] <N3rg4r> thanx anyway
[07:51] <N3rg4r> ;)
[07:51] <momal> apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop | apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ? | that should work
[07:52] <N3rg4r> ok, gotta try it out
[07:52] <fowlduck-> wow, no
[07:52] <N3rg4r> no?
[07:52] <fowlduck-> that just removes the meta-package
[07:52] <intelikey> momal removing kubuntu-desktop won't remove any files.  it's just a meta package
[07:52] <fowlduck-> which does NOTHING for you
[07:52] <momal> ahh
[07:53] <N3rg4r> well i was thinking in installing Gnome and work from there
[07:53] <fowlduck-> N3rg4r: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:53] <momal> intelikey: any ideas how to kill this process?
[07:53] <intelikey> sudo killall <name>
[07:54] <momal> tried already
[07:54] <momal> i have tried | kill -9, kill -HUP, kill -KILL |
[07:54] <momal> and kill -15
[07:55] <N3rg4r> fowlduck-, i'll try that right now
[07:55] <fowlduck-> momal: reboot
[07:55] <N3rg4r> momal, have you tried restarting x?
[07:55] <momal> thats my last option... i prefer to go through everything else
[07:55] <momal> not running x
[07:55] <N3rg4r> or what ever its name is
[07:55] <momal> dedicated server
[07:56] <N3rg4r> i thought contol+alt+ backspace could work
[07:56] <momal> durely there has to be a way to kill a process >_<..
[07:57] <momal> 14.78 load average >_<
[07:57] <intelikey> kill it's parent.
[07:57] <momal> initSCManagerSCManager
[07:57] <momal>      split
[07:58] <momal> thats what is has under pstree.. what is the parent ?
[07:58] <fowlduck-> terminate its parent with extreme prejudice
[07:58] <intelikey> sudo killall SCManager
[07:58] <intelikey> :)
[07:58] <momal> O_O
[07:58] <momal> that would = a reboot
[07:58] <momal> everything running is under that
[07:59] <intelikey> use SCManager to kill it.
[07:59] <intelikey> !SCManager
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SCManager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <intelikey> momal what is  SCManager  ?
[08:02] <intelikey>    SCManager provides a means for client and developers to create story cards and plan/monitor their progess. It software development planning to tool   to support Agile teams using story cards to capture and develop client requirements.  <<<  everything is running under that?
[08:02] <momal> yea.. its my friends server
[08:03] <flaccid> !squid
[08:03] <ubotu> squid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 576 kB, installed size 1524 kB
[08:03] <flaccid> !proxy
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proxy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <flaccid> hmm no guide
[08:03] <momal> its just if i reboot thre is a 90% chance its not going to come back then i have to call the datacenter in america (thats a fair bit from australia >_<)
[08:03] <N3rg4r> momal, it  would be up by now, if you had rebooted
[08:03] <N3rg4r> oh, forget it
[08:03] <momal> umm.. its not the time it takes to reboot its on the chacne it doesn't come back
[08:04] <momal> lol
[08:06] <intelikey> momal can you tell me what "SCManager"  is on that box.   cause i still think you just need to  sudo killall SCManager
[08:06] <momal> O_o... it died
[08:06] <momal> split just dispeared
[08:07] <intelikey> i guess it finished ?
[08:07] <N3rg4r> lol
[08:07] <N3rg4r> s#it happens
[08:07] <momal> my files are gone as well.. the ones it was spliting into >_< lol.. oh well i'll just download the file now instead of spliting it
[08:08] <intelikey> momal is   SCManager   still in the process table ?
[08:08] <momal> umm im pretty sure scmanager is so he can start/stop processes easier... but scmanager wont even run for me lol
[08:08] <momal> yea
[08:09] <intelikey> well the description i found on it doesn't look like it would be usefull for that....   maybe there is another   "SCManager"   ?
[08:10] <momal> Might be :S
[08:11] <momal> you can't download more then 2 gb under ftp O_o... since when
[08:12] <N3rg4r> momal, split the file
[08:12] <momal> lol!
[08:12] <N3rg4r> O.o
[08:12] <momal> have anther method then using split?
[08:13] <intelikey> momal dd
[08:14] <momal> I ahve never used dd... how might I go about it ?
[08:15] <matthew_> momal, dd if /path/to/file/to/be/copied of /path/to/new/copy/of/file
[08:16] <matthew_> momal, dd is not nicknamed data destroyer for nothing...if you mix up the if and of, you could write big blank spots to your harddrive.
[08:16] <momal> O_O
[08:16] <matthew_> yeah, be careful.
[08:17] <matthew_> if==input file (ie, what file dd copies FROM) and of==output file (ie. what file dd copies TO)
[08:17] <momal> ... how is that going to help me split file ?
[08:18] <matthew_> momal, I'm not sure.
[08:18] <matthew_> lol
[08:18] <intelikey> something on the order of # N=1 ;while dd if=<infile> of=<outfile$N> bs=1073741824 count=1 skip=$(($N - 1)) ;do N=$(($N + 1)) ;done
[08:19] <matthew_> momal, dd does a disc copy, bit for bit.
[08:19] <matthew_> momal, either way, it's pretty sketch...
[08:19] <fowlduck-> it CAN do a disc copy
[08:19] <momal> ... im sure there is a easier way to download a 4gb file then that :S
[08:20] <intelikey> that would make a series of 1g files   outfile1 outfile2 ...  from infile     but the <> marks are there only to show that you need to translate <infile> <outfile>  respectively
[08:20] <momal> and how do i get it back together again ?
[08:22] <superjoe> intelikey I messed up packages when using automatix java.  I can't open my package managers. any idea how to fix this
[08:22] <intelikey> same process in reverse.    or just # for Q in outfile* ;do cat $Q >> restoredname ;done        but that's not carefull to make sure it's in the right order.... should do a echo outfile*  first to make sure.   ^momal
[08:24] <superjoe> intelikey, was that answer for me cause that was way over my head?
[08:24] <momal> lol no it was to me :p
[08:24] <intelikey> superjoe something like sudo apt-get install -f || dpkg-reconfigure -a
[08:26] <N3rg4r> hey, new error!!!
[08:26] <intelikey> or actually -a may be excessive...
[08:26] <N3rg4r> i need the url for pasting stuff!!!
[08:26] <intelikey> N3rg4r it's in the topic
[08:27] <intelikey> /topic
[08:27] <superjoe> I forgot, how do I run as root or superuser?
[08:27] <matthew_> !pastebin | N3rg4r
[08:27] <ubotu> N3rg4r: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:27] <N3rg4r> thanx
[08:27] <intelikey> superjoe sudo -i
[08:28] <Xbehave> er what does dpkg-reconfigure -a do? does it reconfigure all apps?
[08:29] <intelikey> Xbehave not all but some.
[08:29] <N3rg4r> fowlduck-, u there??
[08:30] <fowlduck-> N3rg4r: I am, but I'm taking care of something right now, what's up?
[08:30] <Xbehave> is there a command to reconfigure most, i jsut realised i broke my debconf a while ago so may have alot of broken programs
[08:30] <N3rg4r> i was installing gnome and then http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39291/ showed up
[08:31] <N3rg4r> then it continued
[08:31] <intelikey> Xbehave dpkg --configure -a    should get anything that isn't configured yet.
[08:31] <N3rg4r> fowlduck-, if its nothing important i can talk to u later
[08:32] <fowlduck-> N3rg4r: did the installation of gnome fail?
[08:33] <fowlduck-> N3rg4r: I used to get the same error, it's because of some junk in the xorg.conf that shouldn't be there, but is harmless to leave in.
[08:33] <fowlduck-> N3rg4r: so no worries.  I just thought of another way to test netbeans, that was you, right?
[08:34] <intelikey> Xbehave # sudo apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install $(dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' '\n' | sort -u)
[08:34] <N3rg4r> no
[08:34] <N3rg4r> thanx fowlduck-
[08:35] <Xbehave> thx
[08:35] <fowlduck-> thelubix: hey, try running netbeans from a terminal from within gnome, then at least you'll see what errors it outputs
[08:35] <N3rg4r> it was thelubix
[08:35] <fowlduck-> yeah, just scrolled up myself :)
[08:35] <N3rg4r> =_=
[08:35] <superjoe> intelikey im stuck in configuring console setup.  There is just <ok> at the bottom.  What do I do to continue?
[08:36] <intelikey> superjoe hmmmm ???    hit  y ?
[08:37] <intelikey> fowlduck- don't say the M$ word ...
[08:37] <fowlduck-> heh, no, osx
[08:38] <N3rg4r> why?
[08:38] <fowlduck-> i'd be on linux still if i wasn't on a mac
[08:38] <intelikey> ok.  just didn't want to have to duck hunting.....
[08:38] <N3rg4r> i run M$
[08:38] <fowlduck-> i'll have the roast duck with the mango salsa
[08:38] <intelikey> :)
[08:38] <N3rg4r> i dual boot
[08:39] <fowlduck-> i run microsoft windows on my gaming rig and in a virtual machine on my laptop for development in visual studio
[08:39] <fowlduck-> necessary evil :/
[08:39] <superjoe> intelikey,  sorry "y" does nothing.  can I close the terminal or will that mess things up worse?
[08:40] <intelikey> superjoe  try ^C     that's control C
[08:40] <N3rg4r> well i'm preparing to erase the ms partition but still can't work out the video card outputs
[08:41] <EightiesK> !modem
[08:41] <intelikey> N3rg4r hehhe i erased all my partitions a long time ago.
[08:41] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[08:41] <superjoe> inelilkey, still no result
[08:42] <superjoe> intelikey its asking to choose vga, terminus, but no spot to choose.
[08:43] <intelikey> superjoe hmmm   up arrow     down arrow  enter ?
[08:43] <N3rg4r> i have a log way to go before understanding linux the way i undertand MS
[08:44] <superjoe> guess I had to highlight ok, thought I did that already, thanks.
[08:49] <superjoe> intelikey, I'm new to linux, but did successfully set up xp kubuntu dual boot on hp laptop.
[08:50] <intelikey> superjoe cool
[08:51] <intelikey> Belarus ?
[08:51] <N3rg4r> i really had a bad time installing my Wifi card
[08:51] <superjoe> automatix  appeared to have frozen up during java install.  I think I closed the terminal and messed up the package.
[08:51] <N3rg4r> i remember when i first intslled ubuntu
[08:52] <superjoe> i'm still stabbing in the dark but its starting to make sense
[08:53] <superjoe> this 'dpkg-reconfigure -a' has a lot of choices, I'm just hitting all the default choices.
[08:54] <intelikey> superjoe yeah.  you may need to enable verbose   or use a koncole to install java    it askes for confirmation on a liscens agreement.
[08:54] <N3rg4r> at first i tried installing debian, never got a desktop running
[08:54] <intelikey> !java | superjoe
[08:54] <ubotu> superjoe: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:54] <flaccid> atm i'm thinking freebsd is way more stable than ubuntu :)
[08:55] <superjoe> thanks intelikey and uboto
[08:55] <intelikey> !bot | superjoe
[08:55] <ubotu> superjoe: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:55] <Jucato> ubotu: thanks
[08:55] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[08:55] <Jucato> intelikey: ^^^
[08:56] <intelikey> !botsnack
[08:56] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:57] <intelikey> i'm getting pounded pretty heavily   port scanning  and such    hehhe recon i should turn ssh on so they'll have some thing to play with ?
[08:58] <superjoe> intelikey, thanks
[08:58] <intelikey> there me go.
[08:59] <intelikey> superjoe np.
[09:01] <Xbehave> whats the kde graphical sudo command?
[09:01] <intelikey> kdesu
[09:01] <matthew_> Xbehave, kdesu
[09:01] <Xbehave> thx
[09:01] <matthew_> intelikey ftw
[09:02] <superjoe> intelikey,this dpkg-reconfigure -a takes forever.  I think it would be quicker to reinstall ubuntu
[09:02] <intelikey> ftw ?
[09:02] <matthew_> for the win...lol
[09:02] <matthew_> superjoe, did you do dpkg-reconfigure -a? I've always done sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:04] <intelikey> superjoe yeah  sorry i got you into that.   i mentioned in the very next line that using  -a might be excessive   kinda wanting to say lets try something shorter   but....
[09:05] <N3rg4r> this is taking forever
[09:05] <superjoe> sorry, didn't catch that, np I appreciate your help.
[09:06] <Xbehave> superjoe it cant take that long i did it just now
[09:06] <flaccid> hmmm i think edgy sux. way too many problems with it
[09:07] <Xbehave> isnt that the point of a development cycle dapper is about for people that dont want to risk too many problems
[09:07] <matthew_> flaccid, really? I find it much stabler and easier to work with than dapper...
[09:07] <superjoe> I guess I'm slow.  I'm stuck on a screen.  I feel like a five year old trying to use the terminal
[09:07] <flaccid> Xbehave: edgy is still a production lts release
[09:08] <kev1n> for a newbie.... is there a gui program to install .bin files easily without using a command line terminal...... i have realplayer10 to install...i know where it is but i dont know how to install using the konsole
[09:08] <Xbehave> i cant think of a program that on release hasnt been met with problems
[09:09] <intelikey> Xbehave or for people that could hardly care less about having the latest release of 'blah'
[09:09] <flaccid> Xbehave its a matter of severity
[09:10] <superjoe> intelikey.  i'm stuck like I was the first time.  I thought I just highlighted ok and hit enter but not working.
[09:10] <Xbehave> kev1n i think realplayer needs to be run of a script because its not allowed to be added to the repos
[09:10] <flaccid> !realplayer
[09:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:10] <intelikey> kev1n right click it set it executable  and run it.
[09:10] <kev1n> thanks xbehave
[09:10] <N3rg4r> !wma
[09:10] <kev1n> thanks intelikey
[09:11] <Xbehave> severity is relative i mean ive been running kubuntu as my os for 3 months only to realise that id broken it shortly after release but its been working fine anyway
[09:11] <Xbehave> *edgy
[09:11] <superjoe> kevlin, automatix2 can install real player
[09:11] <flaccid> Xbehave: uat says something else :)
[09:12] <kev1n> automatix2 ?
[09:12] <matthew_> !automatix2
[09:12] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:12] <matthew_> lol, I hate when people do that to me...lol
[09:12] <Xbehave> kevlin, its my personal opinion but i wouldnt use automatix it installs alot of programs that are in repos using non repos
[09:12] <kev1n> lol
[09:13] <kev1n> thanks for all your help everyone... i will go back to reading what ubotu said about real player
[09:14] <Xbehave> infact i think i have to go reboot because of something automatix messed up months ago, brb
[09:15] <superjoe> kevln at this point I would agreee with xbehave and the bot bc automatix did mess up my system when installing java. i used it on my pc w no problem though
[09:15] <intelikey> as i was saying i'm on dailup and the cotten picking "hacker/s" have forced a modem reset...  i can't help much while they are trying so hard to find an open port...
[09:15] <kev1n> ok...superjoe.... thanks for your advice
[09:16] <matthew_> intelikey, what's this about hackers?
[09:17] <intelikey> ah someone port scanning my box all to hell.   forced me off the network   and causing bad lag time.
[09:17] <matthew_> lol, that sucks, esp. on a modem...lol
[09:18] <matthew_> intelikey, check your router logs...you may be able to see the ip address of the attacker...
[09:18] <matthew_> kind of retarded to portscan a linux box on dial-up...lol
[09:18] <intelikey> router + modem  ???
[09:18] <superjoe> anyone know a tutorial on basics of navigating in the terminal. i'm having a lot of trouble.
[09:19] <matthew_> intelikey, oh. yeah.
[09:19] <matthew_> lol
[09:19] <superjoe> i'm using gnome terminal 2.16.1
[09:19] <matthew_> superjoe, to change directories do: cd /path/to/directory
[09:19] <matthew_> superjoe, to see which directory you're presently in do: pwd
[09:19] <intelikey> !cli | superjoe
[09:19] <ubotu> superjoe: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:20] <matthew_> superjoe, to copy something do: cp /source/file /destination/file
[09:20] <matthew_> matthew_, to move a file do: mv /source/file /destination/file
[09:20] <superjoe> matthew, actually i'm stuck in the reconfigure and cant figure out how to click <ok> so i can go to next screen
[09:21] <matthew_> superjoe, oh...
[09:21] <matthew_> lol
[09:21] <matthew_> are you in synaptic or something?
[09:21] <matthew_> or in a real terminal?
[09:21] <rmorris> hello
[09:22] <superjoe> no the gnome terminal for ubunu cofiguration there is text and the ok at the bottom
[09:22] <matthew_> superjoe, hit tab to go down, and left/right to select...then enter to confirm selection.
[09:22] <intelikey> cp=copy mv=move ls=list cd=change_dir. mkdir=make_dir. rm=remove df=disk_free du=disk_usage   most cli apps use the Q key to quit them  and/or ^C to terminate them.
[09:23] <superjoe> matthew thankyou so much the tab key was all I needed.  i was feeling stupid.  thanks.
[09:24] <s007> hi
[09:25] <s007> can anyone help me with ubuntu
[09:25] <intelikey> nano is the default *buntu cli editor    all the bash built-ins have   help <command>   while most all cli apps have man or info pages     man intro  ; man man          info info
[09:26] <superjoe> s007 hi
[09:26] <s007> hi
[09:26] <s007> can anyone help me with ubuntu
[09:26] <hastesaver> !anyone | s007
[09:26] <ubotu> s007: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:27] <s007> internet browsing problem
[09:27] <superjoe> s007 I'm pretty noob myself.  whats your question/
[09:27] <intelikey> type type      if you don't know the differance in a bash built-in and a file   :)
[09:28] <intelikey> !flash9
[09:28] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[09:28] <s007> cna only browse certain sites ie:ninemsn or ubuntu can't access google etc
[09:28] <intelikey> "ubuntu can't access google"  ???
[09:28] <s007> yes
[09:29] <superjoe> s007 using firefox?
[09:29] <s007> yes
[09:29] <s007> firefox 2.0
[09:29] <superjoe> don't know, I had full browsing w the live cd even b4 install
[09:30] <intelikey> try konqueror
[09:30] <hastesaver> s007, are you sure it's a Ubuntu problem and not something wrong with your sysadmin, network, something? Can you browse those sites in Windows?
[09:30] <s007> well i had full browsing with the cd too but not now??
[09:30] <s007> yes i can
[09:30] <kev1n> kev1n@kev1n:~$ sudo ./RealPlayerGOLD.bin
[09:30] <kev1n> sudo: ./RealPlayerGOLD.bin: command not found
[09:30] <kev1n> kev1n@kev1n:~$
[09:30] <kev1n> can someone explain to me why this is not working?
[09:31] <hastesaver> s007, maybe something changed in the meantime? Is this home, or are you at work/college/something ? (That is, is there someone else in charge of the network?)
[09:31] <kev1n> oops i see now
[09:31] <intelikey> you're using ff?    try konqueror
[09:31] <s007> home with a small network
[09:32] <s007> no only me
[09:32] <intelikey> first step is to try to determine if the problem is site specific.  app specific  or network in general
[09:32] <s007> and also the connection is very slow
[09:32] <hastesaver> s007, yeah, try other browsers (konqueror, etc.) as intelikey said.
[09:33] <s007> ok how or where do i get konqueror new to ubuntu
[09:33] <hastesaver> maybe something's wrong with the DNS, but that doesn't explain why obscure sites like "ninemsn" (whatever it is) should work and not Google
[09:33] <hastesaver> s007, hit Alt-F2 and type konqueror
[09:34] <intelikey> s007 we are assuming you have kde because you are in the "K"ubuntu channel.
[09:34] <s007> ok i did
[09:34] <s007> and tthen??
[09:35] <s007> and then??
[09:35] <kev1n> which music player is most suitable to play live streaming from live.com please
[09:35] <intelikey> and then ??
[09:36] <s007> conqueror??
[09:36] <superjoe> intelikey, just finished reconfigure.  lets see if it fixed the problem
[09:36] <s007> konqueror
[09:37] <intelikey> s007 so does it work or not ?
[09:38] <s007> no i do i find konqueror
[09:38] <kev1n> which music player is most suitable to play live streaming from live365.com please
[09:39] <flaccid> !postfix
[09:39] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[09:39] <hastesaver> s007, if you've found konqueror, it's a browser -- like Firefox. You type addresses of web pages and see if they work :-)
[09:39] <s007> no not coming up
[09:39] <kev1n> !streaming audio
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about streaming audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <intelikey> hastesaver i'm thinking he probably doesn't have kubuntu or kde
[09:40] <s007> how do i install konqueror
[09:40] <Lathiat> kev1n: what formatis live365?
[09:40] <intelikey> don't
[09:40] <s007> i have ubuntu
[09:40] <kev1n> i am not sure lathiat...
[09:40] <kev1n> i know realplayer and WMP can play it
[09:41] <kev1n> but I want a linux version now
[09:41] <intelikey> s007 don't go installing things, just ask in channel  #ubuntu      it's for your system.
[09:41] <superjoe> intelikey.  package managers still wont open "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[09:41] <superjoe> any ideas b4 I reininstall kubuntu.
[09:41] <fowlduck-> superjoe: ps -A | grep apt
[09:42] <intelikey> superjoe yes.    sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[09:42] <fowlduck-> superjoe: ps -A | grep dpkg
[09:42] <s007> where is channel ubuntu
[09:42] <N3rg4r> !wine
[09:42] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:43] <intelikey> this is channel #kubuntu
[09:43] <intelikey> do the math.
[09:43] <N3rg4r> s007, type "/j #ubuntu"
[09:44] <intelikey> s007 type in this window.                                     /join #ubuntu
[09:45] <intelikey> and welcome to irc.  the internet of entercourse via text
[09:45] <superjoe> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[09:46] <intelikey> did you rm the lock file ?
[09:46] <intelikey> superjoe ^
[09:46] <superjoe> fowlduck intelikey tried both of those, still not working
[09:47] <intelikey> superjoe ok one more in    sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[09:47] <shad0wjack> ive had adept not shut down properly then i tried to relaunch it and got that messaged. what is did was open ksysgaurd and kill it
[09:48] <fowlduck-> superjoe: what i told you is just for finding processes using the packaging system
[09:48] <intelikey> shad0wjack yeah if it is running in the background
[09:49] <superjoe> ok so how do I kill the process
[09:50] <intelikey> for Q in dpkg apt-get aptitude dselect ;do sudo killall $Q ;done
[09:51] <intelikey> oh... add adept and synaptic to the list
[09:51] <intelikey> for Q in synaptic adept dpkg apt-get aptitude dselect ;do sudo killall $Q ;done
[09:51] <intelikey> if that don't get it i don't know what will    :)
[09:52] <intelikey> but ksysguard should work also.
[09:54] <superjoe> like this "sudo killall $apt-get aptitude adept synaptic s ;done"
[09:56] <superjoe> intelikey, is this right?  sudo killall $apt-get aptitude adept synaptic s ;done"
[09:57] <shad0wjack> ive never used konversation before. ive always used xchat. i like it, it got a cleaner ui than xchat
[09:57] <intelikey> no
[09:58] <intelikey> superjoe killall only takes one arg at a time  that's why i used a 'for loop' in the command i gave
[09:59] <kraut> moin
[10:00] <N3rg4r> alright how do i reinstall KDE???
[10:01] <superjoe> so just like you typed it "for Q in synaptic adept dpkg apt-get aptitude adept synaptic dselect ;do sudo killall $Q ;done
[10:01] <intelikey> yep
[10:02] <superjoe> thanks, sometimes I don't know is explanation and what is the commands
[10:04] <N3rg4r> how do i reinstall KDE???
[10:04] <intelikey> logout
[10:04] <N3rg4r> me?
[10:04] <intelikey> yes   or hit   ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:05] <N3rg4r> i installed gnome
[10:05] <N3rg4r> i'm in gnome right now
[10:05] <intelikey> oh you said reinstall    i read restart
[10:05] <intelikey> ooops my bad.
[10:05] <superjoe> intelikey "no process killed" for all.  guess its time for clean install  i think I changed my video settings accidentally during the reconfigure.
[10:05] <N3rg4r> np
[10:06] <intelikey> superjoe you did the       sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock      command ?
[10:06] <intelikey> and adept still wont start ?
[10:06] <intelikey> N3rg4r did you uninstall it ?
[10:06] <N3rg4r> no,
[10:07] <intelikey> N3rg4r then why are you wanting to "reinstall" it ?
[10:07] <N3rg4r> but i want to get rid of an error message
[10:07] <intelikey> N3rg4r what error message ?
[10:07] <superjoe> intelikey, yep, no fix
[10:07] <N3rg4r> the file protocol died unexpectedly or soemthing like that
[10:08] <flaccid> N3rg4r: did you google the error
[10:08] <superjoe> nope none of them
[10:08] <N3rg4r> the weird thing is that it showed also when running the live cd
[10:09] <hastesaver> Can I ask KDE to use a particular theme for just one application?
[10:09] <flaccid> hastesaver: no
[10:10] <superjoe> intelikey, what's the superuser command again.  I'll write it down this time
[10:10] <unix_infidel> sudo?
[10:10] <intelikey> superjoe    what does      sudo apt-get update      tell you ?
[10:10] <hastesaver> flaccid, ok, thanks. Coming (back) from GNOME, it feels like there is nothing that KDE cannot do, so I tend to get carried away sometimes :-)
[10:10] <intelikey> superjoe sudo -i
[10:11] <superjoe> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:11] <intelikey> superjoe kdesu <app-name>     for running kde apps as root
[10:11] <flaccid> hastesaver you can configure gtk fonts in system settings however
[10:11] <intelikey> and you did that right ?
[10:12] <intelikey> superjoe   you did what the error message said ?
[10:12] <hastesaver> flaccid, ok... the default GTK colours make "greyed-out" menu entries almost impossible to see.
[10:13] <ZuluNut> hi guys, How would I change the default operating system to load in GRUB to be windowsXP ?
[10:13] <zzco> blah
[10:13] <smoothies> where is the slowness fix option in beryl settings manager, no one in xgl channgel so i'm asking here
[10:13] <smoothies> o and is there vista-like flip3d for kubuntu?
[10:13] <zzco> kompmgr has run away with processes on my other computer
[10:13] <intelikey> ZuluNut edit /boot/grub/menu.lst   and set the one you want as default
[10:13] <flaccid> hastesaver there is gtk styles as well there
[10:14] <N3rg4r> intelikey, any ideas?
[10:14] <ZuluNut> intelikey: Thanks !
[10:14] <ZuluNut> intelikey: I need to login as root ?
[10:15] <hastesaver> flaccid, it's currently set to "Use my KDE style in GTK apps"... I must try figuring out which GTK style is closest to this (or at any rate, which one is least ugly)
[10:15] <flaccid> i have a very bad bug. my samba workgroup changes back to "WORKGROUP" all the time either on reboot or randomly. anybody heard of this its another very bad bug
[10:15] <intelikey> N3rg4r ?   <=>  <flaccid> N3rg4r: did you google the error   <<< that ?
[10:15] <flaccid> hastesaver have fun
[10:15] <intelikey> ZuluNut you have to edit as root.  you don't have to login as root.
[10:15] <superjoe> intelikey that was easy.  fixed it.  tried that at first but didn't know sudo -i, then got sidetracked w reconfigur -a.
[10:15] <intelikey> !sudo | ZuluNut
[10:15] <ubotu> ZuluNut: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:16] <intelikey> !kdesu | ZuluNut
[10:16] <ubotu> ZuluNut: In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[10:16] <ZuluNut> cool, but for some reason when I installed kubuntu it did not ask me for a root password
[10:16] <ZuluNut> only for a user + pass..
[10:16] <intelikey> ZuluNut yep
[10:17] <ZuluNut> so when i try to login as root it says login fails
[10:17] <intelikey> ZuluNut https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo    read the link
[10:17] <ZuluNut> ok
[10:17] <intelikey> ZuluNut then if you want to change things just ask.  i'll be glad to tell you how.
[10:18] <ZuluNut> aha super secure i see
[10:18] <intelikey> not really.
[10:18] <zzco> I'm waiting for kompmgr to free my computer up enough to do something about it
[10:18] <intelikey> root jr.  is only as secure as your user password really.
[10:18] <ZuluNut> ok im gonna reboot in kubuntu now
[10:18] <superjoe> thats all right I deserve that.  but now I know sudo i, so won't happen again and the tab key in the terminal to click ok.
[10:19] <hastesaver> flaccid, those styles ought to take effect immediately :(
[10:19] <flaccid> hastesaver agreed
[10:19] <flaccid> heh windows can at least do that
[10:19] <superjoe> if I'd known those 2 things I would have saved myself 2 hours of frustration.
[10:20] <superjoe> thanks for saving me from having to reinstall though.
[10:20] <intelikey> zzco hehhe  you might now consider setting limits on things so that can't happen again.     ulimit  and  /etc/security/*   are good.
[10:20] <hastesaver> flaccid, and it's strange that KDE isn't configured to remember window geometries by default. Isn't that what everyone would want? :-)
[10:20] <flaccid> hastesaver that is the repsonsibility of the program usually
[10:21] <intelikey> superjoe if we learn from our mistakes, the trip is worth it.
[10:21] <flaccid> hastesaver otherwise its a bit of an overhead to keep a database of geometries for all X binaries run ..
[10:21] <hastesaver> flaccid, Really? But I can go to "Special Window Settings" and ask KDE to remember it for this program...
[10:21] <hastesaver> flaccid, right, makes sense
[10:22] <flaccid> hastesaver in your case that could be conflicting with the programs geometrie saved config trying to load as well. also if you are running a gtk app in kde or vice versa..
[10:22] <N3rg4r> flaccid, a very quick and simple question. every time I click on a link in Xchat or open my mail inbox in Gaim, konqueror opens and not firefox
[10:22] <hastesaver> N3rg4r, and you're on Kubuntu, I assume?
[10:22] <intelikey> i'm disappointed.   my hacker has totally given up.  and i'm still not rooted.  :(
[10:23] <unix_infidel> intelikey: your hacker?
[10:23] <intelikey> yeah and i even started sshd for him.
[10:23] <flaccid> N3rg4r that could be Xchat.. i don't use it. check its configuration other wise check system settings > default applications
[10:23] <superjoe> intelikey yes he he, i think screen res got changed. only options now in monitor settings is 1024x786 and 800x600.
[10:23] <superjoe> is this right. any ideas
[10:23] <unix_infidel> intelikey: i dont know anyone with any degree of with that would attempt something like that without the proper legal documents.
[10:24] <unix_infidel> wit*
[10:24] <unix_infidel> Not that any ISP's night noc is any good anymore :P
[10:25] <N3rg4r> flaccid, i changed to FF in default apps
[10:25] <intelikey> well i guess the "tor" was all the "legal documents" he thought he needed   lol
[10:26] <flaccid> cool
[10:26] <flaccid> something is removing my workgroup and server string directives from smb.conf on reboot
[10:26] <flaccid> wtf
[10:27] <intelikey> superjoe one can always     sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg         at any time to change the X setup.
[10:27] <flaccid> intelikey: which is great if they had to fix something in there :)
[10:27] <flaccid> you probably get free wacoms as well
[10:28] <ilan__> hi intelikey, menu.lst is open here, what lines are the lines I should edit for changing the default list ?
[10:28] <intelikey> flaccid yes    but as the ubuntu team says   "that doesn't hurt anything"
[10:28] <flaccid> hahahahahah
[10:28] <flaccid> but if you had to do something else to xorg.conf.. goodbye to those directives :)
[10:29] <flaccid> chances are with ubuntu you had to do something manual, especially if you want to use the prop. drivers
[10:29] <intelikey> ZuluNut set the one you want as    save-default    or some such.     flaccid may use gnome, and can tell you the exacts.
[10:30] <ZuluNut> I use kde
[10:30] <flaccid> huh?
[10:30] <intelikey> errr not gnome   grub
[10:30] <intelikey> grub
[10:30] <intelikey> default change.
[10:31] <ZuluNut> so many variables with the word default in them
[10:32] <ZuluNut> I see savedefault var, isn't there a GUI for the bootloader ?
[10:32] <intelikey> save_default  or save-default   or something like that.   i don't use grub.
[10:33] <intelikey> but all you have to do is add that to the entry you want to be default.
[10:33] <ZuluNut> I only see savedfault
[10:33] <intelikey> that's it
[10:33] <ZuluNut> what entry ?
[10:33] <ScarFreewill> is it possable to upgrade from suse 9.1 to ubuntu without formating?
[10:33] <intelikey> the windows
[10:34] <intelikey> ScarFreewill possable  yes.  can you do it.  no.    how do i know,  cause you asked.
[10:34] <N3rg4r> ZuluNut, what os you want to make default??
[10:34] <ZuluNut> intelikey: so i have to locate the windows boot entry and paste the line in their?
[10:34] <ZuluNut> N3rg4r: winxp
[10:35] <N3rg4r> ZuluNut, you need to know what entry XP is
[10:36] <N3rg4r> then find this text
[10:36] <N3rg4r> WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not change this entry to 'saved' or your
[10:36] <N3rg4r> # array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
[10:36] <N3rg4r> default		0
[10:36] <ZuluNut> # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
[10:37] <N3rg4r> but you need to know what entry XP is, in the GRUB menu, when u boot up
[10:37] <ZuluNut> as in a number value?
[10:37] <ZuluNut> like 1/2/3/4 ?
[10:37] <N3rg4r> yes
[10:37] <ZuluNut> hmm
[10:37] <N3rg4r> but 0 being the first one
[10:37] <ZuluNut> i see
[10:37] <ZuluNut> id need to reboot and count again
[10:37] <N3rg4r> then change that default 0 for the entry XP is
[10:38] <ZuluNut> so i replace the 0 with the number
[10:38] <ZuluNut> ok cool
[10:38] <N3rg4r> indeed
[10:38] <ZuluNut> lemme try that
[10:38] <DaveQB> I cant chroot in my Edgy amd64 Desktop, just says cant run command /bin/bash
[10:38] <N3rg4r> it is usually 4 i think
[10:38] <DaveQB> I tried mkdir bin and copying bash into the chroot dir, but no luck
[10:38] <N3rg4r> remember that the first one is 0
[10:38] <N3rg4r> damn
[10:38] <N3rg4r> hes gone
[10:39] <ScarFreewill> does feisty crash on the livecd for any one?
[10:40] <N3rg4r> brb as Nergar
[10:40] <intelikey> N3rg4r can't you just use savedefault  and type default by the one you want      i know there is something like that in grub
[10:40] <N3rg4r> i really don't know
[10:40] <N3rg4r> thats the way i helped out myself ;)
[10:40] <ScarFreewill> if i go to the page after you select your timezore x throws this weard small boxes all over the screen
[10:41] <flaccid> read the grub manual :)
[10:42] <N3rg4r> intelikey, i think your right
[10:42] <N3rg4r> brb as nergar
[10:42] <ZuluNut> N3rg4r: ok, so i counted it as 4 with the line saying 'other operating systems"
[10:43] <N3rg4r> yes, conut also the line
[10:43] <ZuluNut> 1) ubuntu 2) Ubuntu Generic 3) Ubuntu Memtest 4) other operating system 5) WinXp
[10:43] <intelikey> flaccid hehhe the man page is like almost like, you know, like nearly blank you know.    lol
[10:43] <N3rg4r> then it is 4
[10:43] <ZuluNut> ok cool
[10:43] <flaccid> intelikey manual not man page :)
[10:44] <N3rg4r> ZuluNut, brb don't go away
[10:44] <ZuluNut> you count the line saying 'other operating systems:' ?
[10:44] <N3rg4r> yes
[10:44] <vado> Hi`
[10:44] <ZuluNut> k
[10:44] <N3rg4r> ZuluNut, brb don't go away
[10:45] <intelikey> flaccid care to point at it ?
[10:46] <montoya> Hi, kdevelop is translated to italian in kubuntu?
[10:46] <ZuluNut> then i have 2 more issues with kubuntu -- my bluetooth mouse and video drivers :p
[10:46] <intelikey> ah nm.  grub-doc - Documentation for GRand Unified Bootloader    found it.
[10:46] <flaccid> intelikey: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[10:47] <Jazon> hi guys
[10:47] <ZuluNut> N3rg4r: i'm going to reboot to check if it's effective
[10:47] <Jazon> problems with swap after moving to edgy.  it is saying invalid swap signature
[10:48] <Jazon> any ideas how to fix?
[10:48] <superjoe_> intelikey, how long you been using linux?
[10:48] <intelikey> oh a day or two.
[10:49] <Nergar> ok i'm back
[10:50] <superjoe_> ha
[10:50] <superjoe_> probably since you were ten huh?
[10:52] <superjoe_> anyone know how long its supposed to take for sun-java-bin to install. its been stuck at 8
[10:53] <superjoe_> 8% for five minutes
[10:54] <Pensa`MIA> what's the command for tweaking nvidia settings?
[10:55] <Nergar>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY nergar
[10:55] <BrianSteffens> lol
[10:55] <Nergar> sorry
[10:55] <intelikey> superjoe_ when i was 10  a computer was a huge machine that read a punch card or the realy nice ones had real to real tape   and a machine the size of your house/apartment could do almost as much as your watch now.    (assuming your watch is not to fancy)
[10:55] <flaccid> tahts how big my watch is intelikey
[10:56] <intelikey> :)
[10:56] <flaccid> also why i never leave my house. the watch is too big and heavy
[10:57] <ScarFreewill> Nergar: super lol that happend to me too once :PP
[10:57] <superjoe_> intelikey, guess your not still 20 then, hey im installing java in adept updater and in details theres the
[10:57] <Nergar> ScarFreewill, it wont recognice me
[10:57] <Nergar> :(
[10:58] <superjoe_> license agreement but only about 1 inch of it showing and cant arow down or tab to click ok?
[10:58] <ScarFreewill> i need help feisty doesn't run on my or my bro's pc :(
[10:59] <superjoe_> when click show details its says size 143x33.  any ideas?
[11:00] <flaccid> superjoe_: i don't know if adept/gui updaters support post config scripts/ncurses or whatever. maybe you'll have to update via cli
[11:00] <BrianSteffens> ScarFreewill does Edgy?
[11:00] <ScarFreewill> BrianSteffens: yes
[11:00] <ScarFreewill> BrianSteffens: (for both)
[11:01] <BrianSteffens> ScarFreewill what do you mean by doesn't run?
[11:01] <superjoe_> how do i cancel out of the update in adept?
[11:01] <BrianSteffens> superjoe_ UNPLUG YOUR COMPUTER FAST GO lol j/k
[11:01] <ScarFreewill> BrianSteffens: well it doesn't install ...
[11:02] <superjoe_> brian, What?
[11:02] <superjoe_> joke right?
[11:02] <intelikey> superjoe_ right
[11:02] <BrianSteffens> ScarFreewill: is there an error? or a spot where it hangs up? the info you've given could mean anything from the disc image not being burned right to a problem partitioning
[11:02] <BrianSteffens> superjoe_ yea lol sorry ><
[11:02] <simeon> hallo, hab da eine frage zur einrichtung meiner bluetooth maus
[11:02] <simeon> kennt sich da jemand aus??
[11:03] <fdoving> !de | simeon
[11:03] <ubotu> simeon: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:03] <ScarFreewill> BrianSteffens: I go into the livecd and then run install and after I choose the timezone then my x throws me with lots of colored small boxes
[11:03] <simeon> join #kubuntu-de
[11:03] <intelikey> Zrich ?
[11:03] <superjoe_> no really though, should I just exit adept or will this mess up my packages again?
[11:04] <intelikey> if it does,  now you know how to fix it.
[11:04] <intelikey> and start with the error message this time...
[11:04] <intelikey> :)
[11:05] <superjoe_> true, true :) where do I find cli?
[11:05] <intelikey> !cli
[11:05] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:06] <BrianSteffens> ScarFreewill: sounds like a video driver thing. you can't install it at all through the colored boxes?
[11:08] <ScarFreewill> BrianSteffens: i can't see anything but i supose there is still mouse and keyboard input
[11:08] <fdoving> !away > nergar
[11:08] <ScarFreewill> BrianSteffens: but i don't know what they will ask me further...
[11:09] <vega-> Nergar: nobody's interested
[11:09] <BrianSteffens> ScarFreewill: if i were you i'd post the issue on the forums so that the devs and other users can be aware of it. but remember feisty is in extreme testing right now and there are bound to be plenty of problems. dapper/edgy are for actual use, feisty is for testing only
[11:09] <vega-> (don't use public away/back messages)
[11:09] <ScarFreewill> BrianSteffens: i have :(
[11:10] <ScarFreewill> BrianSteffens: and i was thinking of posting at launchpad too...
[11:10] <vega-> ScarFreewill: /j #ubuntu+1
[11:10] <ScarFreewill> i have tried asking there too serveral times :P
[11:10] <BrianSteffens> vega- that's a cool name for a channel, guessing that's for feisty?
[11:10] <vega-> ok
[11:11] <vega-> BrianSteffens: yes, or any version currently in development..
[11:11] <BrianSteffens> nice.
[11:11] <ScarFreewill> vega-: i'd go try again though.,..
[11:12] <BrianSteffens> can you install drivers and restart X while on the livecd anyone?
[11:12] <mikmet_> I would be very happy if someone can help me with this
[11:12] <mikmet_> I get following error: "module monitor&display couldn't be loaded"
[11:14] <BrianSteffens> mikmet: were you recently messing with /etc/X11/xorg.conf or isntalling anything video-related?
[11:14] <superjoe_>  intelikey what was that command again "sudo configure -a"?  the system is not telling me what do this time
[11:15] <flaccid> i just realised i'm sitting in front a windows box, a linux box and a mac box using all 3
[11:15] <mikmet_> no i just did regular system update yesterday
[11:15] <flaccid> heh
[11:16] <BrianSteffens> flaccid: the linux and the mac boxes are kosher but ditch that windows crap man =)
[11:16] <hyper_ch> BrianSteffens: why? Even windows has its right to exist.. and if it is only for gaming
[11:16] <sf_> scarfreewill is gone :P
[11:17] <sf_> anyways i was saying: my friend has a nv 6600 and only dapper works for him he has used it for about a month any only done his updates now but the updates broke his drivers
[11:17] <flaccid> BrianSteffens can't its my gf's puter
[11:17] <BrianSteffens> hyper_ch: lol just messing around =p
[11:18] <BrianSteffens> hyper_ch: i actually have a windows machine too, for compatibility reasons lol
[11:18] <hyper_ch> BrianSteffens: I have vmware for my palm and lotus notes and photoshop and alltunes :(
[11:19] <flaccid> ouch
[11:19] <hyper_ch> ouch?
[11:19] <flaccid> on the lotus notes thing
[11:20] <hyper_ch> flaccid: all of university runs on notes.. I have to inscribe myself for the term through notes.. I have to inscribe myself for exams through notes... it's like the holy grail at university
[11:20] <mikmet_> BrianSteffens: do you have any suggestions as to what I should do?
[11:21] <flaccid> yeah i know its sad hyper
[11:23] <hyper_ch> flaccid: at least they don't use Outlook as groupware
[11:23] <BrianSteffens> mikmet_ try (in Konsole) kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf and post the contents in pastebin
[11:24] <xst_> After upgrading to edgy the fonts in emacs became very ugly and were no longer antialized. How can I fix that?
[11:25] <hyper_ch> uhhh... upgrading... don't people normally advice against upgrading from dapper to edgy?
[11:26] <mroczek> hi!
[11:26] <hyper_ch> hi mroczek
[11:27] <intelikey> grail=cup ?
[11:27] <mikmet_> BrianSteffens: http://pastebin.com/847041
[11:27] <hyper_ch> intelikey: ???
[11:28] <flaccid> hyper_ch: groupware is bogus
[11:28] <hyper_ch> flaccid: well, Notes isn't that bad.. it's just a ressource hog and you have to get used to it
[11:29] <BrianSteffens> mikmet_ try this. go down to Section "Device" and change driver "nv" to say driver "vesa".. save it, then ctrl+alt+backspace and see if it still happens
[11:33] <rahab> hi there
[11:34] <intelikey> hyper_ch "The Holy Grail, was the cup used by our Savior in dispensing the wine at the last supper "  webster.   so i failed to make the connection in "all of university runs on notes....it's like the holy grail at university"     didn't mean anything by it.  just asked if that was the intended meaning ?
[11:34] <rahab> does anyone know how use an iso as a block device?
[11:34] <rahab> loopback doesnt work...
[11:35] <BrianSteffens> intelikey: you're kidding right?
[11:35] <intelikey> rahab   sudo mount -o loop file.iso /mount/point
[11:35] <eilker> hi to all, could anyone suggest me a download manager? like getright in windows...
[11:35] <intelikey> BrianSteffens not this time.
[11:35] <rahab> i need to pretend to have /dev/cdrom oder /dev/hda or something like that
[11:36] <rahab> intelikey: im afraid that doesnt work :(
[11:36] <intelikey> rahab why not ?
[11:37] <rahab> intelikey: vmware server doenst accept the device to be a common mountpoint lilke /mnt/xyz
[11:37] <hyper_ch> intelikey: I see... I thought the term "holy grail" is also used as a metaphor/allusion like Gordian Knot, Sword of Damokles, ... to say it's like the fundamental thing at university :) nothing can be done without it :)
[11:37] <BrianSteffens> intelikey: kinda hard to explain, but 'holy grail' can also mean like.. the end-all, be-all.. something every seeks or holds in reverance
[11:37] <BrianSteffens> yea that lol
[11:37] <crube> Where can I change the style of my login screen?
[11:38] <rahab> intelikey: i even tried to point him to /mnt/loop0 where the image is mounted via loopback. no luck
[11:38] <intelikey> rahab idk about vmware.  maybe vmware docs can answer that.
[11:39] <rahab> intelikey: mhh not really. thanx anyway
[11:39] <Guardian> please, since the last upgrade of my kubuntu 6.10 , usb flashdrives are no more mounted automatically, is there something to fix manually or is there a pending update to do ?
[11:40] <intelikey> BrianSteffens i guess if people worship things, that would apply.
[11:40] <eilker> !kget
[11:40] <ubotu> kget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 431 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[11:40] <mikmet_> BrianSteffens: Ok, well that didn't really work: now the resolution is 2048x1536@60Hz and the monitor module still isn't working
[11:41] <intelikey> rahab did you try just making a symlink in the /dev/ dir   ln -s /path/to/file.iso /dev/something   and point at /dev/something        have no idea if it'd work or not.
[11:42] <BrianSteffens> mikmet_ =/ ok, change the driver back to 'nv'.. i'm afraid i'm all out of ideas (i use ati card heh)
[11:42] <rahab> intelikey: just trying...
[11:42] <intelikey> !ati
[11:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:43] <flaccid> i think that kubuntu needs a quality assurance team
[11:43] <intelikey> flaccid if it had one it's release cycle would be like debian's.
[11:44] <mikmet_> ok, well thanks anyway
[11:44] <intelikey> which would suit me just fine   but three forths of the users would leave for a "newer version"  :)
[11:45] <flaccid> what would you suggest to improve the quality of production releases? at the moment i'm thinking of moving to gentoo or freebsd for desktop because of the amount of bugs and crap implementations
[11:46] <intelikey> flaccid ever use debian stable ?
[11:46] <Jucato> flaccid: how about trying to help out squash those bugs or test development versions?
[11:46] <MHK> can somebody tell me, why i can't log in a WEP-encrypted network with kubuntu but with windowsXP?
[11:46] <flaccid> intelikey: only for server
[11:46] <Jucato> #ubuntu-bugs, #ubuntu+1, #kubuntu-devel... channels you might want to go to
[11:46] <BrianSteffens> flaccid: dapper is quite stable. if you're looking for something that moves very very slow but is very very stable, there is always debian
[11:46] <flaccid> Jucato: i have an occupation and i'm a web developer only. can't help with these bugs
[11:47] <Jucato> there's also #ubuntu-motu for package/packaging issues
[11:47] <intelikey> very very slow ?    compared to what ?
[11:47] <BrianSteffens> flaccid: half of fixing bugs if finding and reporting them
[11:47] <Jucato> flaccid: how about some other ways you could help
[11:47] <flaccid> BrianSteffens: yeah i'd prefer freebsd w/ xorg
[11:47] <BrianSteffens> intelikey: slow as far as updates and release cycle
[11:47] <flaccid> BrianSteffens: they are reported by me. not much being done
[11:48] <intelikey> again compared to what ?
[11:48] <ubuntu> haii
[11:48] <flaccid> Jucato: i don't have anymore time than helping out in this channel
[11:48] <BrianSteffens> intelikey uh, this
[11:48] <ubuntu_> any body here
[11:48] <Jucato> flaccid: your life...
[11:48] <intelikey> yes indeed compared to this *buntu   it's very very slow.   but compared to M$  or even mac
[11:49] <flaccid> Jucato: yeah. see i been coming here for a while now. and i still don't know anyone who is an actually kubuntu developer, funny isn't it
[11:50] <smoothies> i downloaded splashy deb pack, right clicked and installed it, now i can't find it, lol where did it go? thx
[11:53] <ohmbr> hi... I magrate from Mandrita to Kubuntu.. I'm having problens on accents... all words thar has accent now is with other character whird...
[11:54] <ohmbr> does some body know how to fix that?
[12:04] <smoothies> hey how do i become channel moderators
[12:12] <MilhousePunkRock> ABATTOIR!!!!!!!!!!1
[12:12] <flaccid> gotta love windows . 5 hour virus scan
[12:13] <neo_> hi all
[12:14] <neo_> is anybody here that installed Zend Studio 5.5 on Kubuntu?
[12:15] <vito_web> ?
[12:16] <thibault> Bonjour
[12:16] <flaccid> cia0-
[12:17] <thibault> ya des francais ?
[12:17] <flaccid> negative
[12:17] <thibault> ok ok
[12:17] <flaccid> see ya later mate :)
[12:17] <flaccid> oops
[12:17] <flaccid> i mean g'day mate
[12:17] <flaccid> one too many drinks tonight
[12:18] <thibault> lol
[12:19] <flaccid> tis a bit quiet here
[12:19] <flaccid> are peoples systems actually working
[12:24] <MilhousePunkRock> flaccid: Maybe the regulars just got sick of a thousand newbies asking how to install beryl? ;-)
[12:25] <flaccid> hehe
[12:27] <flaccid> bbs
[12:27] <SkippyX> What's considered a newbie? I've been using linux since '00, ubuntu since last year, and I still drop simple questions into channels....
[12:28] <MilhousePunkRock> SkippyX: Well, that depends... People who want to install bery first and have no basic idea about how Linux works are newbies from my point of view
[12:30] <fdoving> SkippyX: we try not to use the newbie definition. We try use 'new users'. And who that is, depends on the topic.
[12:30] <SkippyX> Hmm. How it works? Well. installing? update your sources, and either apt-get install whatever or synaptic double click (!)
[12:30] <SkippyX> fdoving: That's a nice way of looking at it, imo.
[12:31] <SkippyX> Much nicer than - "rtfm, n00b." I've run across that once or twice. Certainly not since using ubuntu.
[12:31] <SkippyX> nice community, from what I've seen.
[12:32] <SkippyX> MilhousePunkRock: how so?
[12:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Less regulars in here, more "stupid" questions...
[12:33] <MilhousePunkRock> Might be a misperception though since I am not in here much anymore...
[12:34] <SkippyX> I understand your frustration on that account. But, I well remember being brand new to linux, and not very adept at any OS, and trying to deal w/ mdk 7.2 - w/out the knowledge of how to find things out.
[12:34] <SkippyX> Imagine the frustration of the new user.
[12:34] <MilhousePunkRock> SkippyX: I have been through that, until I found the joys or IRC
[12:34] <SkippyX> IRC has been handy for me as well.
[12:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Installed Kubuntu, was sooo happy to get my wireless working, adept does some updates, bang, wireless broken again...
[12:36] <SkippyX> I don't have any wireless devices, so that's not an issue for me. Right now I'm trying to figure out why I can't get the system to "see" my digical camera.
[12:36] <SkippyX> digital.
[12:36] <SkippyX> mea culpa.
[12:36] <MilhousePunkRock> SkippyX: Tried setting it to UMS instead of MTP?
[12:36] <MilhousePunkRock> If that is possible and MTP is the evil-doer...
[12:37] <SkippyX> I don't even know the difference between UMS & MTP.
[12:37] <MilhousePunkRock> UMS: Universal Mass Storage --> Camera will get handled like any replacable drive
[12:38] <MilhousePunkRock> MTP: Media Transfer Protocol --> You will need libmtp, strong nerves and a lot of patience
[12:38] <Stalk3r> ok, I have a question
[12:39] <SkippyX> Ahh. Ok - then UMS would be the choice.
[12:39] <Stalk3r> Why doesn't my system see my DVD media? the same device sees CD ROM media
[12:40] <MilhousePunkRock> SkippyX: Check if the camera has a setting for that...
[12:44] <Stalk3r> nobody knows, huh?
[12:44] <SkippyX> I think I'll need to do quite a bit of research. But - what about just getting a card reader? Stick the card in and if it's connected to the USB port it should be automatically seen, right?
[12:44] <SkippyX> Hmm. Did you d/l the kubuntu packages?
[12:44] <SkippyX> Or are you using ubuntu?
[12:45] <Stalk3r> SkippyX:  you talking to me?
[12:45] <SkippyX> Stalk3r: yes.
[12:45] <Stalk3r> Kubuntu dapper drake
[12:45] <SkippyX> OK - you've got a DVD drive on your computer and no CD drive?
[12:46] <Stalk3r> I have a dvd-rw and a cd rom, hdc and hdd respectively, hdc reads cd media just fine but not dvd media
[12:47] <superjoe> stalk 3 did you get the dvd codecs yet
[12:47] <SkippyX> OK - what do you mean by "media"? it won't read any DVD inserted? DVD movies? DVD data disks?
[12:47] <Stalk3r> I"ve only tried the dvds i burned
[12:47] <Stalk3r> with windows
[12:48] <Stalk3r> data dump, you see.
[12:48] <SkippyX> Ok - file backup.
[12:49] <Stalk3r> well crap
[12:49] <SkippyX> correct?
[12:49] <Stalk3r> right
[12:49] <Stalk3r> apparently if it's an mp3 only dvd it reads fine, but a mixed mp3/video dvd won't read
[12:50] <SkippyX> That's likely a codec issue. do you have broadband?
[12:50] <Stalk3r> yes.
[12:51] <MilhousePunkRock> wb flaccid
[12:51] <flaccid> yay my modem finally bridged
[12:51] <SkippyX> have you used automatix or easyubuntu to d/l the proprietary codecs that ubuntu/kubuntu can't legally ship w/ their install disks?
[12:51] <flaccid> thanks mate
[12:51] <Stalk3r> nope
[12:51] <Stalk3r> just installed a few hours ago
[12:52] <SkippyX> Ya might wanna try that. If the system can "see" the drive at all (music files - presumably copied onto a DVD-/+R), but not recognize video files, I would think it's a codec issue.
[12:52] <Stalk3r> thanks
[12:53] <Stalk3r> any clue where I'd find the apps in question?
[12:53] <SkippyX> Stalk3r: hang on a second....
[12:53] <ler_hydra> is there any (binary) nvidia driver guide other than the one on ubuntuguide?
[12:54] <ler_hydra> I seem to have a semi-borken system wrt the nvidia driver
[12:54] <Stalk3r> i saw like 6 nvidia driver packages when I used adept for updates earlier
[12:54] <ler_hydra> yeah, I've installed them via apt
[12:54] <fdoving> !nvidia | ler_hydra
[12:54] <ubotu> ler_hydra: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:54] <superjoe> stalk3r,  i'm using automatix2 to install the video codecs
[12:54] <Stalk3r> good luck
[12:55] <SkippyX> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - homepage for easyubuntu
[12:55] <ler_hydra> they still throw a hissy fit when trying to start x with the proprietary driver
[12:55] <SkippyX> http://www.getautomatix.com/ - page for automatix
[12:55] <Stalk3r> thanks SkippyX.
[12:55] <SkippyX> I used automatix on my system last year - worked like a charm.
[12:55] <fdoving> !automatix
[12:55] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:56] <SkippyX> fdoving: I had heard that, but have found no problems on my system having used it.
[12:56] <SkippyX> Used it on my father's as well.
[12:56] <SkippyX> Of course - there's always easyubuntu
[12:56] <fdoving> SkippyX: it works for some, once it makes problems they are often hard to fix.
[12:57] <SkippyX> Yes. Something else I had heard of being done is d/ling automatix, unpacking the script and reading it to d/l the appropriate drivers/codecs/whatever through apt.
[12:57] <SkippyX> That seems like the long way 'round, but I know one guy that did it that way
[12:58] <superjoe> just don't close it while its running, i had to reinstall kubuntu
[12:58] <superjoe> but am using right now and no problems
[12:59] <superjoe> if you use it to install java you have hit tab to the <ok> to accept license agreement
[12:59] <ler_hydra> ah, it seems that the ubuntuguide installation instruction isn't completely correct
[01:00] <ler_hydra> it works now, thankfully
[01:00] <ler_hydra> do you happen to have a dual-head guide too?
[01:00] <fdoving> nvidia dualhead?
[01:00] <fdoving> hmm.. that's twinview.
[01:00] <SkippyX> Geeze - how could i have forgotten about that?
[01:00] <ler_hydra> fdoving, uh, yeah
[01:01] <ler_hydra> that's right
[01:01] <SkippyX> Stalk3r: look up the unofficial ubuntu starter's guide as well...
[01:01] <SkippyX> hang on
[01:02] <SkippyX> Stalk3r: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:02] <Gmalex> hi
[01:02] <Stalk3r> kubuntu 6.06.1
[01:03] <SkippyX> OK - hang on.
[01:04] <SkippyX> OK - I'm using an ubuntu system - and I'm not sure if all the info in this guide is good for kubuntu - one of the others here likely has more info on that.
[01:04] <SkippyX> But - this was very, very handy for me. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[01:04] <SkippyX> I would think much of it would be the same.
[01:04] <SkippyX> is there an unofficial kubuntu guide?
[01:04] <Gmalex> i've a trouble with Kubuntu....while i'm working the screen of my notebook switchs off....in windows there's not this problem then i think is a problem related to Kubuntu
[01:05] <ler_hydra> !compiz
[01:05] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:05] <Gmalex> what can i do? Is the battery? The computer is linked to the electric line...
[01:06] <Stalk3r> SkippyX: bookmarked, thanks
[01:06] <SkippyX> No problem, mano.
[01:06] <SkippyX> I knew a new system can be a frustrating thing.
[01:06] <Stalk3r> kubuntu is ubuntu with the KDE interface, so I'm sure it applies
[01:06] <Gmalex> help me please :(
[01:07] <Stalk3r> easy ubuntu is performing installation tasks as we speak
[01:07] <SkippyX> Gmalex: I've no idea. I don't have a laptop. wish I could be of help.
[01:07] <Stalk3r> Gmalex: is it after 1 minute of inactivity?
[01:08] <Gmalex> Stalk3r: no instead it's after some minutes of activity
[01:08] <Gmalex> while i'm writing..
[01:09] <Stalk3r> and how do you get it back on?
[01:09] <Gmalex> i don't understand
[01:09] <Stalk3r> how do you restore your display?
[01:09] <Gmalex> i turn off computer manually
[01:10] <fdoving> Gmalex: what laptop is this?
[01:10] <Gmalex> Fujitsu Siemens Amilo A7620
[01:11] <Gmalex> i've had problems with the battery in the past..
[01:11] <SkippyX> Wow. ksirc is ugly.
[01:11] <Gmalex> but the notebook now is linked to the electric line
[01:11] <Stalk3r> Konversation is nice.
[01:11] <wimpies> HI all, I got this strange keyboard-shift problem.  when I press and hold the shift only the first character is presented shifted, then it reverts to non shifted
[01:12] <SkippyX> Stalk3r: Is it? I've been a loyal XChat user for a long time. Tried ksirc outta curisity.
[01:13] <MilhousePunkRock> SkippyX: Konversation is really nice... Better than Xchat imho
[01:13] <hyper_ch> anyone knows a site with pro/cons with regard to audio formats: mp3/wma/ogg/mpeg4/mpc?
[01:13] <SkippyX> Hmm.
[01:13] <Stalk3r> well, I'm still in defaul colors, so the white background is annoying, but other than that it seems functional, easily configurable and even set up my auto-identify with ease
[01:13] <ler_hydra> !compiz
[01:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:14] <MilhousePunkRock> hyper_ch: I could tell you some...
[01:14] <superjoe> whats the best way to kill automatix 2.  it froze up on the dvd codecs
[01:14] <Xbehave> im looking through the forums, to find out how to install a webcam but i seam to get the impression im missing something basic, where should i start?
[01:14] <flaccid9951> with a gun
[01:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Xbehave: Google!
[01:14] <Xbehave> how long has it been frozen for
[01:14] <SkippyX> Holy mackeral.......
[01:15] <SkippyX> 3.9 megs? That'll take forever over my dial-up line. Good thing I've gotta go shopping in a bit.
[01:15] <hyper_ch> MilhousePunkRock: well, ogg is free and better quality over mp3 right? but some mp3 players have difficulty playing ogg files right?
[01:15] <superjoe> there are 2 processes in system guard.  automatix.py and automatix2
[01:15] <MilhousePunkRock> hyper_ch: Indeed, portable players with ogg are still rare
[01:15] <superjoe> 10 minutes not doing anything
[01:15] <MilhousePunkRock> mp3 probably has the widest suppor
[01:15] <MilhousePunkRock> t
[01:15] <hyper_ch> MilhousePunkRock: but you can convert ogg to mp3 right?
[01:16] <MilhousePunkRock> hyper_ch: You can, but converting from one lossy format to another will result in even more loss
[01:16] <superjoe> xbehave should I kill both processes
[01:16] <Xbehave> i cant say i recently did but it could have messed up my system
[01:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Since they work somewhat differently, mp3s from oggs will sound worse than the same songs converted to mp3 straight from the cd
[01:17] <hyper_ch> MilhousePunkRock: if I download at 192kbps and convert it to 128 mp3... will it be bad?
[01:17] <superjoe> great, i just reinstalled,  this is getting annoying
[01:17] <MilhousePunkRock> hyper_ch: I don't know for sure, but I assume, any conversions will make the quality worse
[01:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Why not stick with 192? I think it's the best quality vs filesize ratio
[01:18] <hyper_ch> the 320 download is $ 3.90 and then 192 is $2.52.... hmmmmm.....
[01:18] <SkippyX> Um. http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/PortablePlayers
[01:18] <SkippyX> .ogg compatable players.
[01:20] <superjoe> how do I kill a proccess that is root
[01:22] <hyper_ch> I guess I'm going to download them as .ogg ... someone said with rockbox you can listen to .ogg on ipods
[01:22] <wedgeV> superjoe: sudo kill ... ?
[01:28] <Alcapond> Hi I am looking for a wlan pcmcia-card which is natively supported by kubuntu - where can I find those information? Thx!
[01:30] <SkippyX> OK - I'm off. Have fun y'all
[01:39] <gupta> everytime I run kdialog I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39300/
[01:39] <ler_hydra> !twinview
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <gupta> kdialog runs all-right but I just don't want X to type these error messages
[01:40] <ler_hydra> hmm, anyone else know anything about getting twinview up and running?
[01:40] <ler_hydra> I have the nvidia driver installed now
[01:40] <_tor> Hey, Konversation is nice.
[01:42] <stdin> gupta: I know what those errors are
[01:42] <gupta> :)
[01:42] <SkippyX> Yeah- I can live w/ this. OK. Take it easy y'all. I'm off
[01:42] <stdin> it's to do with the wacom drivers in xorg.conf
[01:42] <stdin> easy to fix
[01:43] <gupta> how?
[01:43] <stdin> gupta: you just remove any instance of wacom in xorg.conf
[01:43] <stdin> gupta: if you post your xorg.conf on pastebin, I'll show you
[01:44] <gupta> cool, I'll restart X now
[01:44] <stdin> you done it already?
[01:48] <ler_hydra> !aiglx
[01:48] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[01:50] <larson9999> heard a new phrase today: vista FUD. i don't think that's possible
[01:51] <ler_hydra> isn't that mutually inclusive?
[01:51] <stdin> vista isn't FUD, MS just use FUD to promote it
[01:51] <larson9999> that's what i thought
[01:52] <larson9999> reminds me of the country song, "too much fun. what's that mean?"
[01:55] <JohnFlux> my normal user doesn't have permissions to mount my usb disk
[01:56] <JohnFlux> how do I allow the user to do that?
[01:56] <JohnFlux> $ mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/usbdisk/
[01:56] <JohnFlux> mount: only root can do that
[01:56] <stdin> use pmount
[01:57] <stdin> !pmount
[01:57] <ubotu> pmount: mount removable devices as normal user. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.13-1build1 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 588 kB
[01:57] <JohnFlux> stdin: thanks ;-)
[01:57] <stdin> np
[01:57] <Jucato> hi JohnFlux :)
[01:57] <JohnFlux> yo :-)
[01:59] <gupta> thanks to whoever it was it helped me with that Xorg error messages problem.
[01:59] <stdin> you're welcome gupta :p
[02:02] <JohnFlux> mu usb hard disk keeps getting somehow disconnected and unmounted
[02:03] <JohnFlux> i'm trying to copy a few GB's to it, but half way through the computer umounts it, then auto detects it again
[02:03] <Roadrunner1985> !ntfs
[02:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[02:06] <Roadrunner1985> the script diskmount-script is not at the url.
[02:06] <Roadrunner1985> *diskmount
[02:09] <stdin> what are you trying to do Roadrunner1985
[02:09] <stdin> ?
[02:10] <zero-9376> can someone tell me how to set a default view profile in konqueror
[02:11] <Roadrunner1985> stdin: i try to mount my 2 ntfs harddisks (read & writeable)
[02:11] <zero-9376> my guess is its in a config file somewhere but i cant find anything on the net
[02:12] <stdin> !ntfs-3g | Roadrunner1985
[02:12] <ubotu> Roadrunner1985: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:12] <zero-9376> im using ntfs-3g and it is going well, a little cpu intensive but worth it
[02:13] <Roadrunner1985> uhm. what is 6.10? dapper or edgy?
[02:13] <stdin> Roadrunner1985: dapper
[02:13] <stdin> opps
[02:13] <stdin> edgy
[02:13] <stdin> 6.10 is edgy
[02:14] <Roadrunner1985> okay. thanks. im very new to linux and all this distris Oo
[02:14] <stdin> that's why we're here to help :D
[02:15] <fdoving> zero-9376: you can't change the default profile as you want. You can however start konq with the view profile of you choice.
[02:16] <ThomasZ> Anyone willing to tell me why I keep loosing /dev/hdc ? My cdrom never shows up there.  And doing a mknod doesn't survive a reboot :(
[02:16] <Jucato> fdoving: what do you mean you can't?
[02:17] <zero-9376> Jucato do u know where i can do it?
[02:17] <fdoving> Jucato: can you? - select the view profile you start when konqueor is started with 'konqueror' ?
[02:18] <Jucato> fdoving: I think it depends on what profile Konqueror loads by default when called with a plain "konqueror"
[02:18] <fdoving> zero-9376: you can start konqueror with a view profile of you choice with 'kfmclient openProfile profilename'
[02:18] <Jucato> fdoving: over here, "konqueror" loads the "webbrowsing" profile.
[02:18] <fdoving> Jucato: I don't know if that can be changed.
[02:19] <Jucato> um.. probably not, but you can certainly modify the webbrowsing profile.
[02:19] <fdoving> sure.
[02:19] <fdoving> and you can also open konqueror with other profiles.
[02:19] <ThomasZ> Jucato: your konqueror icon on kicker actually has a profile hardcode in there.
[02:19] <Roadrunner1985> okay thanks. now it runs =)
[02:19] <Jucato> definitely :)
[02:19] <fdoving> with the 'kfmclient openProfile'
[02:20] <Jucato> ThomasZ: heh I didn't notice. I changed it immediately after I made my own profile :)
[02:20] <Roadrunner1985> one more question. command to unzip .tar.gz is "tar xvfz archiv.tar.gz" ?
[02:21] <zero-9376> yes my kicker icon has webbrowser but i want to change the view for all windows that i open, possible???
[02:21] <Jucato> Roadrunner1985: tar xvzf archive.tar.gz afaik
[02:21] <Roadrunner1985> thanks =)
[02:21] <zero-9376> you can look up things like that in man pages too
[02:21] <zero-9376> they give examples
[02:22] <fdoving> zero-9376: depends on how you open konqueror, you can modify all the profiles :)
[02:22] <stdin> Roadrunner1985: you can take out the v in xvzf if you don't want to see all the files being untarred
[02:22] <zero-9376> well alot of the time i do it  from the run command dialog
[02:22] <ohmbr> hi, where do i set the charset of kubuntu?
[02:23] <ohmbr> is that possible?
[02:23] <maryen> hiho
[02:26] <fdoving> ohmbr: the default for the whole system is set by the locales. usually in /etc/environment, you can install the package 'localeconf', from konsole with the command: 'sudo apt-get install localeconf' - to configure those easily. (the package is in the universe repository, you need that enabled to get it)
[02:26] <maryen> hey fdoving
[02:27] <maryen> I'm finally returning to kubuntu ^ ^
[02:27] <fdoving> good thing :)
[02:27] <maryen> i tried to love ubuntu... but it was just too annoying
[02:28] <maryen> I especially hated how kde apps worked properly only half of the time while gnome apps always run fine in kde -.-
[02:29] <malc_> Hey I am on ubuntu atm and I am trying to apt-get kde.  However its coming up with ...
[02:29] <malc_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:29] <malc_>   kde: Depends: kdemultimedia (>= 4:3.4.3) but it is not going to be installed
[02:29] <malc_> E: Broken packages
[02:29] <malc_> Can anyone help?
[02:32] <stdin> malc_: that package in in the universe repository, so you need to enable that, but if you want to install kubuntu, you just need to install kubuntu-desktop
[02:32] <fdoving> malc_: you want to install what stdin says :)
[02:35] <ThomasZ> Hm cdwriter (hdc) is not found on edgy; any ideas on how to get it recognized?
[02:36] <malc_> Currently I have this configuration http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories shouldn't universe already b enabled
[02:38] <stdin> malc_: did you update the package list after?
[02:41] <stdin> malc_: if you're just trying to turn ubuntu in to kubuntu, or add kubuntu to ubuntu, then you just need to install the 'kubuntu-desktop' package
[02:41] <ThomasZ> nobody with knowledge about udev? and why my cdrom doesn't get an entry in /dev ?
[02:48] <hyper_ch> !fr
[02:48] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:54] <kzs> hello
[02:54] <kzs> i have a little problem with kubuntu.
[02:55] <kzs> a install a system but i dont know a root password.
[02:55] <stdin> use sudo
[02:55] <stdin> !sudo
[02:55] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:55] <kraut> how do i get the partition name of an UUID?
[02:56] <kzs> ooooooooooooooooooo
[02:56] <kzs> 1000000000000000000 million thanks
[02:56] <stdin> kzs: no problem
[02:56] <kzs> you are a god.
[02:57] <stdin> kraut: example:  sudo vol_id -u /dev/hda1
[02:57] <stdin> kzs: no, I just know a couple things :p
[02:57] <kzs> thx
[02:57] <kzs> by
[02:57] <kzs> by
[02:57] <stdin> cya
[02:59] <KDELearner> Hi. How do I install a  .tar.gz   file I downloaded?
[03:00] <KDELearner> I need help quickly since I need to leave soon
[03:00] <KDELearner> never mind. bye
[03:01] <kraut> stdin: thanks
[03:01] <stdin> no problem kraut
[03:02] <_arafat> !mono
[03:02] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu7.1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[03:03] <kraut> !uuid
[03:03] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[03:06] <poppemie> hello everyone
[03:06] <poppemie> who of these users in this room are not positif about ubuntu?
[03:07] <stdin> since this is a kubuntu suppoet channel, not many
[03:07] <stdin> *support
[03:08] <poppemie> Does ubuntu 7.04 is really beter than 6.10?
[03:08] <poppemie> *is sorry for my bad english
[03:08] <stdin> not yet, as 7.04 hasn't been released yet
[03:08] <poppemie> but you can download the alpha version already no?
[03:09] <stdin> yes, Feisty Herd 1
[03:09] <poppemie> #warzone
[03:09] <poppemie> how can i go to other channels on IRC?
[03:09] <bsm>  /join
[03:09] <hyper_ch> hmm, herd 1... had problems gettting that installed :( somehow it kept messing up with the harddisk locations
[03:09] <bsm> without the space
[03:10] <bsm> poppemie: you better won't install any alpha versions
[03:10] <poppemie> ok
[03:10] <stdin> hyper_ch: my hda turned to sda :p
[03:10] <hyper_ch> stdin: yes, that mixed it up when I upgraded from edgy to feisty... and I wasn't able to make a clean install
[03:11] <hyper_ch> btw then I have my small little install.sh file and my backup repo file so I can quickly get my system up and running again as before
[03:11] <stdin> hyper_ch: it was a kernel bug in 2.6.19
[03:11] <hyper_ch> stdin: yeah, that was the kernel :)
[03:11] <hyper_ch> stdin: so that's fixed meanwhile?
[03:12] <poppemie> i don't think so
[03:12] <stdin> yeah, it's fixed now, in 2.6.20 :D
[03:12] <hyper_ch> stdin: because there's an annoying bug in xubuntu edgy
[03:12] <poppemie> is kernel 2.5.20 already out?
[03:12] <poppemie> 6*
[03:12] <stdin> yeah, i'm running 2.6.20-2-generic
[03:13] <vega-> 2.6.20 is not out
[03:13] <poppemie> wich rooms can i visit is there a list with all the rooms?
[03:13] <hyper_ch> stdin: since I got myself a 500GB disk today and am waiting for a few .oggs to be download I think I could give feisty another try....
[03:13] <stdin> vega-: then how come I'm running it?
[03:13] <vega-> http://www.kernel.org/
[03:13] <hyper_ch> !irc
[03:13] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[03:13] <vega-> stdin: you are running some ubuntu version
[03:13] <hyper_ch> !irc | poppemie
[03:13] <ubotu> poppemie: irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[03:14] <poppemie> ok
[03:14] <stdin> vega-: i'm running feisty
[03:14] <vega-> yes
[03:14] <poppemie> where do you come from ? from europe? do you often use windows?
[03:14] <vega-> it's still not out :)
[03:15] <stdin> it still rocks tho :P
[03:15] <poppemie> can ubuntu beat windows vista i mean can ubuntu attire more users?
[03:15] <vega-> don't know about that
[03:15] <poppemie> what do you think guys
[03:16] <vega-> probably not
[03:16] <stdin> vista need a supercomputer to run, I'll stick with linux
[03:16] <vega-> well, maybe 10-20 years
[03:16] <poppemie> probably not why?
[03:17] <hyper_ch> poppemie: linux is about choices and some people choose windows... for a variety of reaons... compatibility, "ease" of use, because they don't know better, ....
[03:17] <vega-> too much people used to windows, gaming, ... etc.
[03:17] <stdin> people will buy a new PC and it will come with vista, that's one reason
[03:17] <poppemie> well if ubuntucompany makes self hardware
[03:17] <poppemie> than the users will come
[03:18] <DaveQB> poppemie:  Cononical
[03:18] <poppemie> yes i mean that
[03:18] <hyper_ch> poppemie: a lot more people are using linux now than 2-3 years ago... having a look at it getting it to run, compared to 2-3 years ago, it has become very simple to do... it still needs a lot of work but it's getting there
[03:19] <poppemie> it's getting there i don't understand sorry but my mother language is not english
[03:19] <Dr_willis> and compared to some of the disasters ive had witn windows.... Linux is easier in some cases.
[03:19] <poppemie> ok
[03:20] <poppemie> does someone now why warzone 2.0.4 never work :(:(:(:(:( and it's created for linux:(:(
[03:20] <stdin> one problem for people switching from windows is, linux isn't windows, a lot of people expect/want it to be the same
[03:20] <hyper_ch> Dr_willis: well, my PDA won't work with linux... that's the negativ side of linu... you don't have all that hardware and interoperability that you have on windows
[03:20] <poppemie> the solution is easy that de linuxdistro's makes self hardware
[03:21] <poppemie> and windows will fail at that moment
[03:21] <hyper_ch> stdin: there's this winxp theme for kde 3.5 and I bet if you put that on a kubuntu quite a large number of people wouldn't notice much of a difference
[03:21] <poppemie> what if the windows company burns of explode or burns by an earthquake
[03:21] <poppemie> do you also haver more problems with kde than gnome?
[03:21] <stdin> poppemie: windows don't make hardware, hardware is made for windows, that's the problem
[03:22] <hyper_ch> poppemie: that has no impact.... Microsoft has billions in stock... so loosing their HQ at Redmond wouldn't bother them that much
[03:22] <poppemie> you understand me well
[03:22] <stdin> hyper_ch: yeah, I've seen it, it's ugly :p
[03:22] <poppemie> gnome works better for me i don't know why
[03:22] <poppemie> things in kde works very bad sometimes
[03:22] <poppemie> :(
[03:22] <poppemie> but gnome is beautiful
[03:22] <stdin> you have the choice, choose what works for you
[03:22] <poppemie> and kde ugly
[03:23] <poppemie> if you change the skins of course
[03:23] <hyper_ch> and actually, it's good for Microsoft that Vista has such insane hardware requirements
[03:23] <stdin> kde isn't ugly, you can make it look like what you want
[03:23] <hyper_ch> OEM is the key
[03:23] <poppemie> yah i know but if i wanna change a skin in kde than it doesn't work
[03:23] <poppemie> that's the reason
[03:23] <stdin> hyper_ch: in a way, it's good for us all, it pushes hardware to be better
[03:24] <hyper_ch> you tell existing customers that the new version is much more secure, much better, much much much...
[03:24] <vega-> better=faster?
[03:24] <poppemie> do you know if there is somewhere with a number of the linuxusers?
[03:24] <hyper_ch> so they want ti, buy new hardware.... and get it already installed
[03:24] <Dr_willis> I change my kde themes all the time.. it just has a very flexiable system of theming different parts.. you have more options with kde.  gnome keeps things simple and locked down in many ways.
[03:24] <poppemie> iedereen zijn goesting e dr_willis
[03:24] <hyper_ch> so hardware sellers have actually an interest in OEM and selling windows
[03:24] <stdin> and gnome has that regedit clone thing, eww
[03:25] <poppemie> regedit in gnome?
[03:25] <Dr_willis> a regedit clone to edit a xml file. i think even..
[03:25] <vega-> gnome has less stuff but it works, kde has lots of stuff but everything isn't so well polished always, that's my experience
[03:25] <poppemie> ok vega
[03:25] <Dr_willis> gnome keeps a lot  of its settings in a huge config file with all the 'power options' that the gnome devs think would confuse 'people'
[03:25] <hyper_ch> xfce has all I need and runs nicely
[03:25] <poppemie> do you bought an ubuntu computer in a store?
[03:26] <Dr_willis> there are web sites that sell preinstalled linux machines.
[03:26] <stdin> system76 sells ubuntu PCs/laptops
[03:26] <poppemie> yes i know but i am a bit jaloes because in europe the linux pre installed computers
[03:26] <vega-> Dr_willis: that's called the "human interface guidelines / usability" or smthing like that :)
[03:26] <poppemie> are not so nice and quick
[03:26] <hyper_ch> stdin: hmmm... a lappie... I have to get one, one day :)
[03:26] <stdin> me too hyper_ch :p
[03:27] <hyper_ch> probably I get one by my new employer
[03:27] <poppemie> and in america the wireless card is supported
[03:27] <Dr_willis> vega-,  'programming interfaces for idiot users' :)
[03:27] <hyper_ch> but that would then be MacOS
[03:27] <poppemie> in europe they sometimes say the wireless thing isn't working always
[03:27] <poppemie> :(
[03:27] <hyper_ch> wireless and bluetooth are still immature technologies
[03:27] <poppemie> if you buy an pre installed computer
[03:27] <Dr_willis> as for the warzone questions earlier - be suer to get the lastest version at ----->   https://gna.org/projects/warzone/
[03:27] <stdin> i'm in the dark ages here, no wireless
[03:28] <Dr_willis> Wireless is SUch a disaster its scary.
[03:28] <hyper_ch> and most people here think WEP is safe....
[03:28] <Dr_willis> I just run wires.. faster and easier.. and much more reliable by like 1000% for me.
[03:28] <poppemie> wired is for me not possbile in this house
[03:28] <vega-> wireless has worked nicely a few years on my dell d610
[03:28] <Dr_willis> even under windows - i have  a hard time with wireless cards
[03:28] <poppemie> me too you know
[03:28] <vega-> also bluetooth
[03:29] <hyper_ch> actually, my wifi card needn't any special treating at all in dapper and edgy :)
[03:29] <poppemie> do you play sometimes 3D games in linux?
[03:29] <hyper_ch> I don't play any games
[03:29] <poppemie> never hyper_ch?
[03:29] <Dr_willis> Theres several 3d games out and more comming out every month.
[03:30] <stdin> frozen-bubble is kinda 3d :p
[03:30] <Dr_willis> hyper_ch,  lives in IRC. :)
[03:30] <poppemie> frozen bubble 3d hahaha
[03:30] <Dr_willis> like I should talk.. hehheh...
[03:30] <Dr_willis> IRC = the ultimate game.
[03:30] <stdin> I still play quake3 when I need that 3D fix
[03:31] <stdin> or just rotate my desktop cube :D
[03:31] <poppemie> is that stable already desktop cube?
[03:31] <poppemie> i mean the 3D program for linux
[03:31] <stdin> I use Beryl/AIGLX, that's stable for me
[03:32] <poppemie> can i run it on a Vmware ubuntu?
[03:32] <stdin> yeah
[03:32] <poppemie> but i thought 3d doesn't work on it
[03:32] <poppemie> where can i download it?
[03:32] <hyper_ch> nice, almost all .oggs downloaded... then I can plugin my new hdd
[03:33] <stdin> actually, I don't know if it works, I haven't tried
[03:33] <hyper_ch> I have doubts that it works in ubuntu if ubuntu is run as VM
[03:34] <poppemie> damn:'
[03:34] <stdin> there is  a LiveCD of SabayonLinux that has XGL/AIGLX so you can test it there
[03:34] <poppemie> ok thanks
[03:34] <stdin> but slow on a LiveCD tho
[03:35] <poppemie> slow on? what do you mean?
[03:36] <stdin> the effects are slow when you run beryl on the LiveCD
[03:36] <stdin> depends on you hardware tho
[03:36] <poppemie> ok if i chat a lot here my english will be better and better:)
[03:36] <hyper_ch> with 2 gigs ram and a decent processor and quick drive... it's shouldn't be too slow
[03:37] <stdin> it's always faster when you install
[03:37] <poppemie> that i understan
[03:37] <poppemie> d
[03:37] <stdin> Feisty will have hardware acceleration on by default too
[03:38] <hyper_ch> what does that do?
[03:38] <Dr_willis> "Eye candy now included" :)
[03:39] <stdin> that's AIGLX, it enables all the effects, but you still need beryl/compiz to get the effects
[03:39] <hyper_ch> ah
[03:39] <Jucato> "Eye candy now included" "Dr_willis now sold separately"
[03:39] <Dr_willis> "Not aviliable in stores!"
[03:39] <Jucato> hehe
[03:39] <Jucato> "Sold out"
[03:39] <Dr_willis> "Order now and get free - Leet Haxor Status"
[03:40] <Jucato> heh
[03:40] <poppemie> how many hours are you online in this rooms average?
[03:40] <poppemie> the whole day? just curious
[03:40] <poppemie> how fan you are
[03:40] <poppemie> wow amazing
[03:40] <stdin> me too
[03:40] <hyper_ch> the same as Jucato
[03:41] <poppemie> isn't that boring after a while?
[03:41] <Jucato> although I leave the room once in a while in order to enjoy some peace of mind :P
[03:41] <Jucato> one has to preserve his/her sanity
[03:41] <poppemie> sanity?
[03:41] <stdin> that's what /away is for :p
[03:42] <hyper_ch> stdin: /away? *g* I never us it
[03:42] <Jucato> stdin: nah, /away doesn't remove notifications and other visual reminders (like scrolling lines...lots of scrolling lines)
[03:42] <poppemie> ok
[03:42] <poppemie> guys i must be off
[03:42] <poppemie> see you later
[03:42] <stdin> Jucato: I set konversation to disable notifications while away
[03:43] <Jucato> stdin: yeah, but as long as the channel is open, I can't resist the urge...
[03:43] <stdin> :p
[03:43] <shadowhywind> morning/evening all
[03:44] <shadowhywind> Does anyone know if there is a way to "upgrade" tpa  64-bit kernel while leaivng the 32 bit untouched? or would i have to install 2 completely different kubuntus?
[03:44] <hyper_ch> only 4 more songs to download and then I'm away for some time :)
[03:46] <Blissex> shadowhywind: youn have to.
[03:47] <shadowhywind> dang, i was hoping i could do it like if i did a kernel upgrade, i get the old kernel on grub sort of thing
[03:48] <braddoro> I'm wondering if someone can helpme, I upgraded from dapper to edgy, and then I ran apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade, now when I boot I get an error: fontconfig error: cannot load default config file  What do I have to do to fix this?
[03:50] <Blissex> shadowhywind: 64 bit mode is a different, even if tantalizing similar, architecture...
[03:50] <Blissex> braddoro: that is strange, check what you have in '/etc/fonts/'
[03:51] <braddoro> Blissex: i did but I don't know what I'm looking for, there are a bunch of xml files
[03:51] <braddoro> i googled and it said that something probably didn't get compiled correctly
[03:51] <Blissex> braddoro: there should be one called 'fonts.conf' and should be readable by everybody.
[03:51] <Blissex> braddoro: if you compiled some programs yourself, good luck :-).
[03:52] <braddoro> ok that could be the probelm
[03:52] <tmdx120> hi everyone. I want to test the security of my machine. Im are there any apps out there that will help?
[03:52] <joth> I'm running Kubuntu on my laptop, but I want to set up a partition and install windows on it. Can someone please point me to a good guide on the net?
[03:52] <zero-9376> can some1 tell me where to tell kde to turn on the numlock key at startup ive done it before but cant find it
[03:52] <braddoro> i have a fonts.conf.dpkg-new
[03:52] <braddoro> all of them are new
[03:52] <braddoro> like that
[03:53] <adz21c> zero-9376: Settings -> Periphals -> Keyboard
[03:53] <braddoro> Blissex: so it looks like the font package didn't do something right, can I rerun it?
[03:53] <Blissex> braddoro: you can just do 'mv /etc/fonts/fonts.conf.dpkg-new /etc/fonts/fonts.conf' and so the the others.
[03:54] <Blissex> braddoro: that's probably most reliable.
[03:54] <shadowhywind> what is the difference between the 386 kernel and the 686?
[03:54] <Jucato> !generic | shadowhywind
[03:54] <ubotu> shadowhywind: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[03:54] <braddoro> Blissex: so just rename the files?
[03:56] <zero-9376> tmdx120 try nessus i read something about it the other day
[03:56] <Blissex> braddoro: yes.
[03:56] <braddoro> Blissex: ok, i'll try that, thanks for the help
[03:59] <zero-9376> anyone know of an app to build a xbox iso for linux?
[04:00] <dec_> hello i am trying to upgrade to 6.10 and I am getting a failed to fetch error code 2 everytime I try anyone have a workaround?
[04:01] <dec_> hello i am trying to upgrade to 6.10 and I am getting a failed to fetch error code 2 everytime I try anyone have a workaround?
[04:01] <n8k99> dec_ did you apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:02] <dec_> no
[04:02] <bsm> dec_ how are you trying to upgrade?
[04:03] <dec_> apt-get-update is what I am using
[04:03] <n8k99> you need to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:03] <fdoving> !upgrade
[04:03] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:03] <dec_> will that eliminate error code 2
[04:04] <n8k99> check out that link there ^^^^^^^^
[04:06] <akhtet> hi
[04:07] <akhtet>  /quit
[04:07] <keesj__> hi
[04:12] <stefan> hi
[04:12] <stdin> hi
[04:12] <stefan> where are you come from ??
[04:13] <stdin> i'm from the UK
[04:15] <stefan> exactly??
[04:15] <stdin> birmingham, england
[04:17] <stefan> ok
[04:18] <stefan> so you favourite team is Villa or Birmingham ?? :P
[04:18] <stdin> :p villa
[04:19] <stefan> how old are you ?
[04:19] <stdin> 20, what's with all the biographical questions? :p
[04:20] <stefan> ok i finished :)
[04:20] <stdin> so, you in Poland?
[04:22] <stefan> yes
[04:23] <stefan> but why you know that??
[04:23] <stdin> :)
[04:23] <stdin> from your IP address
[04:23] <stefan> ok
[04:23] <stefan> you are linux user too ??
[04:23] <stdin> yeah, used it for 10 years
[04:25] <stefan> you i install my linux ten minutes ago :::)
[04:26] <stefan> and i am new here :)
[04:26] <stdin> ever used linux before?
[04:26] <stefan> only XP :)
[04:26] <stdin> yeah, that's not linux :p
[04:26] <stefan> i know :)
[04:26] <stefan> maj i have some question to you about linux ??
[04:27] <stdin> yes, this is a support channel after all :)
[04:27] <stefan> thx
[04:27] <stefan> I want you install some program
[04:28] <stefan> and i really don't how to start :/
[04:28] <tony_> what program do you want to install ?
[04:29] <stefan> Kadu
[04:30] <tony_> not in repository
[04:30] <montoya> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/kde/kdevelop
[04:30] <izprince> hey, silly question here, what CD burning software does Kubuntu come with?
[04:30] <stdin> izprince: k3b
[04:30] <stefan> ok
[04:30] <izprince> thank you :)
[04:30] <stdin> :D
[04:30] <montoya> Why kdevelop run in english!!! My locale is set to italian
[04:30] <stefan> another question
[04:31] <stefan> my linux boot normaly from hdd can i make something to boot it from floppy dusk ??
[04:31] <TheGateKeeper> stefan, installed dapper or edgy?
[04:31] <stefan> Kubuntu
[04:32] <TheGateKeeper> yes but which version?
[04:32] <stdin> aww, he's new you know
[04:32] <stefan> yeap i am new
[04:32] <stdin> stefan: did you download the CD, or get it from shipit?
[04:32] <stefan> but i recently download it from web page
[04:33] <tony_> probably is edgy
[04:34] <TheGateKeeper> stefan, probable edgy, open konsol & paste this command & tell me what is returns please: grep RELEASE /etc/lsb-release |cut -b 17-
[04:34] <Jucato> shipit only ships dapper for now.
[04:34] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: lsb_release -a will also do :)
[04:34] <stdin> or lsb_release -c
[04:34] <stdin> or -r
[04:35] <stdin> :P
[04:35] <Jucato> heh
[04:35] <stefan> 6.06
[04:35] <Jucato> -c is for the Codename, -r is for the Release (number)
[04:35] <stdin> yep
[04:35] <stdin> so dapper it is
[04:35] <ironfroggy_LT> i have a device i would like to monitor the network data of. is it difficult to toss in to ethernet cards to a box, and have them piped together, logging the data?
[04:35] <ironfroggy_LT> or is there a better way?
[04:36] <stdin> ironfroggy_LT: you can try wireshark
[04:36] <stdin> !wireshark
[04:36] <ubotu> wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.3a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 545 kB, installed size 1528 kB
[04:36] <TheGateKeeper> stefan, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper  http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[04:37] <stefan> what is this??
[04:37] <ironfroggy_LT> i want to see if wiishop can be hijacked to installed my own packages :-D
[04:37] <TheGateKeeper> some usefull info for you to read
[04:37] <Jucato> stefan: one of the easiest guides for you to read would probably be the Kubuntu Desktop Guide that comes with the installation
[04:38] <stefan> ok thx
[04:38] <Jucato> it's quite simple and concise (although, too simple for my taste...)
[04:38] <stefan> but what about this booting ??
[04:38] <stefan> do you know how to make it ??
[04:38] <Jucato> what booting?
[04:38] <TheGateKeeper> do that from your bios
[04:39] <morphado> hello i have a problem with shutdown in kubuntu 6.10
[04:39] <daniel777> hihoo
[04:40] <stefan> from bios??
[04:40] <adridox> buenas
[04:40] <stefan> how??
[04:40] <morphado> although i have add the line acp= force to the line menu.ls
[04:40] <daniel777> i'm using KSubtitle, and the letter with  () i can't see, only i can see this symbol .
[04:40] <adridox> people here only speak english ?
[04:40] <daniel777> adridox
[04:40] <adridox> hi daniel777
[04:40] <The_Machine> What's the best way to get xvid avi file to DVD (playable in dvd player?)
[04:41] <daniel777> #ubuntu-es #kubuntu-es #edubuntu-es
[04:41] <daniel777> jejeje
[04:41] <The_Machine> maybe on the fly burn even?
[04:41] <morphado> any one can help please
[04:41] <morphado> any one can help please
[04:41] <adridox> daniel777: thnx
[04:42] <daniel777> adriox, the best is ubuntu... there are no many persons in kubuntu-es
[04:43] <adridox> daniel777: yes...
[04:43] <daniel777> jejeje
[04:43] <daniel777> hablas espaol?
[04:43] <adridox> siiii
[04:43] <adridox> XDD
[04:43] <daniel777> jajaja
[04:43] <daniel777> dalee
[04:44] <daniel777> tu demas me pueees ayudar :D
[04:44] <TheGateKeeper> stefan, when your machine boots up hold down the del (delete key) & that will take you into your BIOS settings. BE CAREFULL what you do, you can modify the boot order & set the first thing to boot from to be your floppy disk. But BE CAREFULL make sure you know what you are altering
[04:44] <adridox> a ver
[04:44] <daniel777> en el ksubtitle, enves se salir los tildes o, sale un . :S:S:S:S
[04:44] <adridox> mira te comento, mi problema es que no me va bien el teclado
[04:44] <stdin> TheGateKeeper: it's not always del
[04:44] <adridox> no van las teclas con altGr
[04:44] <Pirate-king> goodmorning
[04:44] <adridox> como por ejemplo, arroba y demas
[04:45] <mindspin> !es
[04:45] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:45] <adridox> jajaja
[04:45] <adridox> vale
[04:45] <adridox> voi para dentro :P
[04:45] <TheGateKeeper> stefan, stdin what ever the apprpriate key is, del, F1, whatever
[04:45] <adridox> kubuntu-es
[04:45] <Pirate-king> what is a good web cam program to use in kubuntu?
[04:45] <Pirate-king> easy to set up
[04:47] <tony_> i think the best thing is to find a webcam that would work with linux
[04:47] <adz21c> Pirate-king: Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000 works a treat for me ... only cam I ever used. I used if in Kopete and gnomemeeting before
[04:47] <adz21c> it*
[04:48] <LjL> !es | daniel777, adridox
[04:48] <ubotu> daniel777, adridox: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:52] <thekid> hello
[04:52] <stdin> hi
[04:52] <thekid> what is a good web cam program to use in kubuntu?
[04:52] <thekid> easy to set up
[04:53] <stdin> you just asked that
[04:53] <thekid> yeah and no one answered
[04:53] <daniel777> !de | LjL
[04:53] <ubotu> LjL: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:54] <stdin> thekid, search for webcam in adept
[04:54] <thekid> ok
[04:55] <stdin> I don't use a webcam, so I don't know
[04:55] <thekid> ok want to change from windows
[04:55] <daniel777> stdin
[04:55] <adz21c> thekid: "Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000 works a treat for me ... only cam I ever used. I used if in Kopete and gnomemeeting before"
[04:55] <stdin> daniel777
[04:55] <daniel777> can you help me:D
[04:55] <daniel777> a can wirte  with no problem
[04:56] <tdd1984> hey guys when using mget * how do i get it to say yes too all files, instead of it asking is it okay for every file to be copied?
[04:56] <daniel777> but i downloaded some subtitles from argenteam
[04:56] <daniel777> and in the ksubtitle i see  .
[04:56] <digitalfreedom> is there a program or util that i can get thats like check disk/scan disk and defrag for kubuntu?
[04:56] <stdin> maybe the subtitles are not in UTF8
[04:56] <daniel777> for example, i don't see antiptica, i see antip ica
[04:57] <digitalfreedom> daniel777:  have you got your language packs installed?
[04:57] <digitalfreedom> and charsets?
[04:57] <daniel777> i think so,
[04:57] <daniel777> i have gnome in spanish
[04:57] <stdin> digitalfreedom: fsck will check you disk automatically, and you don't need to defrag
[04:58] <digitalfreedom> no defrag on linux? please tell how this is possible /me is very intrigued
[04:59] <digitalfreedom> WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[04:59] <digitalfreedom> SEVERE filesystem damage.
[04:59] <digitalfreedom> ehhhhhhhhhh ok
[04:59] <tdd1984> hey guys when using ftp mget, how do i get all files to download automatically instead of it asking yes or no for every file?
[04:59] <stdin> digitalfreedom: because linux (actually the filesystem ext3) stores files in spaces that fit, not like windows
[04:59] <digitalfreedom> oic thanx
[04:59] <digitalfreedom> so about that warning im getting
[04:59] <stdin> digitalfreedom: i said it will run automatically, on 30 mounts/reboots
[05:00] <digitalfreedom> can i run it manually? im at the konsole right now and its telling some bad stuff will happen
[05:00] <stdin> you need to run it on a unmounted fileststem
[05:01] <digitalfreedom> linux is all i have installed no dual boot for me
[05:01] <HymnToLife> why to you want fo fsck anyway ?
[05:01] <stdin> 'sudo shutdown -F -r' should reboot and run it for you, or you can do it from Live CD
[05:02] <digitalfreedom> well im just want to ensure my hdd is in good shap
[05:02] <digitalfreedom> shape
[05:03] <Roadrunner1985> hello. i did a little mistake. how can install grub to another harddisk?
[05:03] <Vegeta^> Is there softwares that can block certain websites (with password). If so what are they?
[05:03] <Roadrunner1985> ubuntu is installed on sda1 and grub is installed on hda1
[05:05] <stdin> Roadrunner1985: there is help on reinstalling GRUB here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:05] <Roadrunner1985> stdin. thanks a lot
[05:07] <m_> hi
[05:10] <Roadrunner1985> stin. sorry. my english is to bad to understand this. ill better reinstall my kubuntu
[05:10] <Roadrunner1985> *stdin sorry
[05:14] <lsmith> ahoi .. anyone running kubuntu in vmware?
[05:14] <lsmith> i am trying to install it on my windows laptop
[05:15] <tdd1984> hey guys how do i get all the files with mget? its not getting the folders only the files in the root?
[05:15] <lsmith> and after selecting install or safe boot from the menu vmware just hangs ..
[05:19] <Jucato> !beryl > Jucato
[05:20] <Dr_willis> lsmith,  i recall seeing some Ubuntu Vmware images allready made on some of the vmware sites. save you some time.
[05:20] <lsmith> ah right .. will check
[05:20] <Dr_willis> lsmith,  i dont recall any issues when i tried ubuntu +vmware  a few mo ago.
[05:20] <x-demon> anyone try kde4?
[05:22] <lsmith> found 6.0.6 in their appliance listing
[05:24] <lsmith> hmm
[05:25] <Dr_willis> there may be some other sites with newer versions.
[05:25] <tdd1984> hey guys how do i downlaod all folders/files from cli ftp? I tried mget   -R * and did not work
[05:25] <Dr_willis> check the forums/wiki perhaps?
[05:25] <tdd1984> I think it downlaoded the files out of the folders, but it did not create the folders?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> tdd1984,  may want to try 'wget' instead. I think a lot of the recursive features of ftp depend on the ftp server
[05:26] <Dr_willis> been years since i last used ftp
[05:26] <scheuri> anyone ever tried to import KMail (Mails and structure (with maildir)) into Evolution?
[05:28] <marcelo> hola soy nuevo en esto y no se como instalar amule en ubuntu!!!!!
[05:29] <arafat> !es
[05:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:30] <cacifali> marcelo, debes conectarte al canal kubuntu-es, aqui solamanete ingles
[05:31] <marcelo> thenky
[05:32] <hyper_ch> hiho
[05:33] <x-demon> who can give me a shell? :)
[05:33] <morphado> hello again
[05:33] <soulrider> !lock
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <stdin> x-demon: konsole
[05:33] <soulrider> !database locked
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about database locked - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <morphado> probleme with shutdown in kubuntu 6.1 any ideas
[05:33] <LjL> !botabuse
[05:33] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:33] <LjL> !adept crash fix
[05:33] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[05:33] <Jucato> :)
[05:34] <soulrider> thanks LjL
[05:34] <x-demon> i go to kde 4
[05:34] <x-demon> i must try it
[05:34] <scheuri> he is...
[05:34] <LjL> Jucato: well, i use a keyboard most of the time
[05:34] <x-demon> i download, now test...
[05:34] <Jucato> LjL: so do I :)
[05:34] <morphado> anyone can help please
[05:35] <LjL> Jucato: i also started to learn typing at about 3 ;-)
[05:35] <Jucato> lol now that's just... whacked :D
[05:35] <LjL> though the *way* i type would shock anybody who's been actually *trained* for touchtyping, i guess
[05:35] <LjL> Jucato: well... my C64 has the same age as myself
[05:35] <n8k99> ask your question morphado if someone can answer it they will
[05:35] <n8k99> ususally there is someone
[05:36] <n8k99> :)
[05:36] <LjL> Jucato: what i find bad with that is that the fingering is fixed. think of the word "jump" for example: you need to use the index finger three times in a row for J, U and M
[05:36] <morphado> my kubuntu 6.10 don't shutdown
[05:36] <morphado> when i do the computer hangs
[05:36] <Jucato> LjL: true... :)
[05:36] <n8k99> how have you tried to shutdown?
[05:37] <morphado> eh
[05:37] <LjL> Jucato: "my" way is more piano-like, i.e. fingering changes depending on the specific word. this probably makes typing uncommon words harder (i have to make up a fingering in my head first), but makes typing common words faster
[05:37] <morphado> by the normal
[05:37] <LjL> Jucato: for "jump" i use index, middle, index, ring for instance
[05:37] <n8k99> morphado: by normal do you mean the shutdown option on the kmenu?
[05:37] <morphado> yep
[05:37] <Jucato> LjL: heheh very flexible fingers... :)
[05:37] <Jucato> LjL: I can't imagine typing in any other way now... :(
[05:37] <morphado> i tried this in menu.ls   add acp= force
[05:38] <stdin> LjL: I type the same way as you then :p
[05:38] <n8k99> morphado: try opening a terminal (konsole) and typing sudo shutdown now
[05:38] <Dr_willis> acpi=force ya mean?
[05:38] <morphado> yes
[05:38] <morphado> sometimes it works
[05:38] <Dr_willis> is this a laptop? new machine? old machine?
[05:38] <morphado> pentium 4
[05:38] <morphado> gigabit card pc x
[05:38] <LjL> Jucato: hands move much more than with standard touchtyping. it also probably means i make many more typos... but hey, this was a problem with typewriters. we have backspace now :)
[05:39] <morphado> so i guess it is a pretty new one
[05:39] <LjL> stdin: i guess most people who can type fast but weren't actually trained with touchtyping do... although i suspect that learning to play piano at about the same time and pace i learned to type also gave it some distinctive characteristics :)
[05:40] <stdin> LjL: naver played the piano, not well anyway, but i've been typing for a long time, and prefre it to the mouse
[05:40] <mitch__> hey guys, i wonder if someone could help me with a problem...i just installed the kde desktop and my wireless connection won;t work anymore...any ideas?
[05:41] <stdin> first thing i do after install is setup my shoutcut keys :p
[05:41] <Jucato> I played the piano years ago... but somehow it never carried over to the keyboard :)
[05:41] <LjL> stdin: well, that's interesting too, Apple apparently did a study where they compared how fast people could do things using the keyboard vs the mouse. the result was that on average they were faster with the *mouse*, but they *perceived* they were faster with the keyboard
[05:42] <LjL> which IMHO opens some interesting questions on how a GUI should be designed =)
[05:42] <Pirate-king> wher is a good place to compare ubuntu and kubuntu
[05:42] <LjL> on a computer
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Pirate-king,  one usesd gnome, other uses kde by default.. other then that they as basicially identical.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> install  both desktops..  use one for a while. then try the other.
[05:43] <Daisuke_Ido> just look at the differences between gnome and kde, and make your choice based on personal preference
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Theres many KDE apps that i use all the time. so even if i used gnome, id still be using those kde apps.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> theres also a few gnome apps i like.. so the reverse is true. :)
[05:43] <morphado> don't u thing it is a no sense to release a new distrubition with a serieus bug like this, i am going back to my 6.04
[05:43] <Dr_willis> If i install ubuntu, first thing i do is install the kubuntu-desktop as well.
[05:44] <LjL> morphado: nice, where did you get 6.04? :)
[05:44] <Dr_willis> sounds like it may be more of a kernel bug to me.
[05:44] <morphado> what from the net ljl
[05:44] <LjL> !dapper
[05:44] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[05:44] <LjL> there is no 6.04 ;)
[05:45] <stdin> there was 6.06
[05:45] <mitch__> hey guys, i wonder if someone could help me with a problem...i just installed the kde desktop and my wireless connection won;t work anymore...any ideas?
[05:45] <stdin> because it was late :p
[05:45] <morphado> yes ok call it what u want
[05:45] <LjL> true
[05:45] <Pirate-king> ok....there are a couple things I want skype web cam dvd and cd burning transfer files off a camera and ipod
[05:45] <Daisuke_Ido> call it what it is.
[05:45] <LjL> i call it what it's called..
[05:45] <Daisuke_Ido> and how it's named on every site i've seen.
[05:46] <LjL> anyway morphado, sure, if there's nothing that you need from 6.10, there's no reason why you shouldn't stay with 6.06, which has LTS as an advantage
[05:46] <morphado> i want a solution to my problem not trying to prove i am a linux guru
[05:46] <Jucato> Dapper Duck...
[06:00] <evan_> hey guys, new to linux, love kubuntu have a few questions if that's ok
[06:00] <stdin> don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[06:00] <Dr_willis> ask away.
[06:01] <evan_> i'm looking for drivers for my printer: canon pixima ip6210d
[06:01] <evan_> have any ideas where i can find?
[06:01] <Dr_willis> good LUCK.
[06:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:01] <evan_> lol
[06:01] <Dr_willis> canon can be very unfriendly towards linux
[06:02] <Dr_willis> check the cups homepage -- www.cups.org perhaps. There may be some  drivers for it.. but dont expect much. I got a Pixima ip1600  that i guess is not supported much if at all at this time.
[06:03] <evan_> i installed turboprint and it worked but it slaps a huge logo on your page
[06:03] <Dr_willis> In the Future - i will NOT be buying any printers from canon.
[06:03] <Dr_willis> evan_,   bummer.. but look at is this way.. the $$ from that i think filters down and pays for all the other drivers getting developed.
[06:03] <Dr_willis> so eventually that driver may be free.
[06:03] <dec_> I hope someone can help, I cannot access the internet although my wireless connection is strong all devices are working but when I use firefox it times out
[06:04] <Dr_willis> dec_,  try pinging the gateway from the terminal?
[06:04] <dec_> where would i find the gateway address
[06:04] <Dr_willis> Its your system. :) mine is the ip of my router.
[06:05] <Dr_willis> or try pinging any other machines on the network.
[06:05] <dec_> I did and it came back 100% loss
[06:05] <Dr_willis> I think thats telling us that the network card/network settings are not correct.
[06:06] <dec_> how can i check the network card/settings
[06:06] <Dr_willis> I dont use wireless any more. i ran wires... wireless is such a disaster under windows and linux.
[06:06] <dec_> my wireless card was working for the last 6 months and then all of a sudden it stopped
[06:06] <Dr_willis> you said earlier that  the connection is strong and all other devices are working... how are you even checking that?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> ahhhhh.. thats interesting.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> it just stopped like yesterday?
[06:07] <dec_> through my wireless assistant
[06:07] <dec_> when it stopped i put the card in a windows machine and it works fine
[06:08] <hyper_ch> !mount
[06:08] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:08] <hyper_ch> !diskmounter
[06:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:08] <hyper_ch> !fstab
[06:08] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[06:09] <hyper_ch> !Partitions
[06:09] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:11] <jerp> I need to load the installation programs I got with my motherboard but of course they are designed for Windows.  Is there a workaround I can do to tweak my memory slots?
[06:11] <evan_> ok then next question why is my internet slower in konquerer in kubuntu than firefox or ie in windows (i haven't tried other browsers in kubuntu)
[06:12] <soulrider> evan_: it porbably isnt
[06:12] <soulrider> just looks like it is
[06:13] <hatta> konqueror is a hog
[06:14] <bowens> As I may not be here when it happens, happy upcoming new year folks!
[06:14] <calvarez> question! after installing the Adobe Flash plugin for firefox, firefox now crashes whenever I go to a flash site (I tried youtube and homestarrunner). Any ideas?
[06:14] <hatta> I use firefox for browsing and krusader for files, never need to touch konqueror
[06:14] <StingRay> Hi can somebody tell my where this line in Kubuntu is: SessionTypes=kde;gnome;default;failsafe;
[06:14] <StingRay> It was supposed to be in kderc
[06:14] <StingRay> but it is not :(
[06:14] <hatta> and if you install a png theme everything will go faster in kde
[06:14] <evan_> the theme is not the problem
[06:15] <evan_> i guess i'll try firefox
[06:15] <rag> hi *, please help me
[06:15] <rag> problem is 'at key' and other keys typical for my keyboard not works
[06:15] <Dr_willis> StingRay,  i thought kdm read the sessions from the various .desktop files  in.. some dir.. heh
[06:15] <rag> xorg not works for me, i have es layout but nothing
[06:16] <rag> i try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:16] <rag> but nothing
[06:16] <StingRay> can you share this little secret please, Dr_willis
[06:16] <Dr_willis> -- my kdm sessions seem to come from -->  /usr/share/xsessions
[06:16] <Dr_willis> its no secret. :)
[06:16] <Dr_willis> gdm reads the same files.
[06:17] <StingRay> there is no such sessiontype var
[06:17] <StingRay> :(
[06:17] <Dr_willis> you sure you are not  looking for kdmrc
[06:17] <StingRay> I checked them already
[06:17] <StingRay> i doublechecked it
[06:17] <Dr_willis> i cant recall ever using a seeiontype var. Ive just altered the files in that dir
[06:17] <osoh> hi all
[06:18] <rag> my settings layout=es and pc105
[06:18] <StingRay> checked them with grep -iH session *
[06:18] <StingRay> nothing there
[06:18] <StingRay> lost almost the whole day :(
[06:18] <Pirate-king> why does my firefox crash on some sites?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> flash issues most likely
[06:19] <Dr_willis> StingRay,  its possible you are going about your problem from the wrong direction.
[06:19] <Pirate-king> ook
[06:19] <StingRay> I know what I want, but don;t know where to search for it
[06:19] <Dr_willis> we dont know what you want.. :)
[06:20] <StingRay> I want to find where my login options are
[06:20] <StingRay> like SessionTypes=kde;gnome;windowmaker;blackbox;anotherlevel;default;failsafe;
[06:20] <StingRay> according to KDE they should be in kdmrc
[06:21] <Dr_willis> if its not shown in the kdmrc file - then it uses the system wide defaults.. which i guess would be to use that sessions dir
[06:21] <Dr_willis> add the line under the   [General]  settings in kdmrc perhaps
[06:21] <Dr_willis> or under the [Xdmcp]  settings
[06:22] <StingRay> I searched the whole kdmrc and  /usr/share/xsessions/*
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Theres also a kdm manager program tahts not included by default I think
[06:22] <StingRay> I am all ears :)
[06:22] <Dr_willis> ---> add <--- add the line under the   [General]  settings in kdmrc perhaps
[06:22] <Dr_willis> !find kdm
[06:22] <ubotu> Found: kde-kdm-themes, kdmtheme, kdm
[06:22] <Dr_willis> !info kdmtheme
[06:22] <ubotu> kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 264 kB
[06:22] <StingRay> I will check if it will override the other one
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. that may be it.. it does more then themes
[06:23] <StingRay> thank you, doctor ;)
[06:25] <evan_> can i get kubuntu to read my ntfs drive?
[06:27] <fdoving> !ntfs | evan_
[06:27] <ubotu> evan_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:29] <ScarFreewill> !feisty
[06:29] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[06:32] <ciemme> ciao a tutti
[06:33] <wilman> I have installed edgy but not everything is working yet
[06:33] <wilman> what are the main packages for sound functions
[06:35] <evan_> last question... i want to start programming for linux... what's the best language to learn
[06:37] <Bubba_Gump> brother evan_ , perl
[06:37] <oht> hello brethren :)
[06:37] <Bubba_Gump> hello :)
[06:39] <Bubba_Gump> how graceful my desktop looks, brother
[06:39] <oht> mine is currently the windows affliction, brother :(
[06:39] <Bubba_Gump> your heathen ways disappoint me, brother
[06:40] <oht> ;)
[06:40] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[06:45] <wilman> install beryl and you will be satisfied
[06:46] <wilman> The source seems encrypted, and can't be read.
[06:46] <wilman> Your DVD is probably crypted. According to your country laws, you can or can't use libdvdcss to be able to read this disc. (Media stream scrambled/encrypted)
[06:46] <wilman> what to do about this?
[06:51] <oht> brother wilman: install libdvdcss
[06:55] <tony_> using libdvdcss.. can k3b copy protected movies to HD ?
[06:56] <wilman> hmmm
[06:56] <wilman> iam finding a repository
[06:57] <tony_> Has anyone installed cinelerra ???
[07:08] <JOSF> Hi! While trying to install Kivio something happened to my apt-database. adept_manager does not start anymore, adept_updater tells me there are no packages upgradable (should be 72) and the Adept program from the start-menu shows only uninstalled programs.
[07:09] <JOSF> How can I recreate the database of installed packages ?
[07:13] <JOSF> Does this mean I need to recreate the apt-cache ?
[07:13] <JOSF> How do I do this ? I am new to apt
[07:16] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:16] <ryanakca> how do I re-enable the OSD for putting the volume up or down with my keyboard's multimedia keys?
[07:16] <ryanakca> hey slow-motion
[07:16] <slow-motion> hi ryanakca
[07:17] <kraut> is there any ipv6 mirror?
[07:18] <ryanakca> JOSF: try running the command:               sudo apt-get update
[07:18] <ryanakca> kraut: for... the repos?
[07:18] <kraut> ryanakca: yes
[07:18] <mado> hallo ihr da
[07:18] <ryanakca> dunno... *checks*
[07:18] <JOSF> ryanakca: that updates the list of remote packages from the repositories, no ? I am need a list of my locally installed packages.
[07:19] <ryanakca> JOSF: hmm... pastebin the output of "dpkg -l"
[07:19] <JOSF> ok, hold on
[07:20] <Engdoug_> dae
[07:21] <JOSF> ryanakca: dpkg: command not found
[07:21] <JOSF> (I had it....)
[07:21] <Engdoug_> haha
[07:21] <Engdoug_> #linux
[07:21] <sa6oook> i need global help
[07:22] <sa6oook> about my Nvidia drivers
[07:22] <sa6oook> can somebody help?
[07:22] <JOSF> what is *global* help ? ;-)
[07:22] <Lynoure> sa6oook: global?
[07:22] <sa6oook> Big
[07:22] <sa6oook> not global
[07:22] <sa6oook> :)
[07:22] <JOSF> can't help with nvidia
[07:22] <JOSF> does not work for me either
[07:23] <ryanakca> JOSF: you don't have dpkg installed?
[07:23] <ryanakca> erm... *scratches his head*
[07:23] <Engdoug_> i used to have an GF II
[07:23] <JOSF> ryanakca: Well, I used it two days before. I also have the man page.
[07:23] <sa6oook> so somebody for suppord /?
[07:23] <Engdoug_> its just download de driver and dpkg -i
[07:23] <JOSF> But as it seems, the dpkg command has gone
[07:23] <Engdoug_> or ./driver
[07:23] <JOSF> it is not even in my located anymore
[07:23] <ryanakca> JOSF: type in    dp    and hit tab...
[07:23] <JOSF> locatedb I mean
[07:24] <sa6oook> Setting up linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386 (2.6.15.12-1) ...
[07:24] <JOSF> there it is
[07:24] <sa6oook> look @ this shit
[07:24] <JOSF> strange
[07:24] <sa6oook> i'm installing nvidia
[07:24] <sa6oook> it installs new kernel
[07:24] <sa6oook> and krash totally
[07:24] <ryanakca> ok, try         sudo chmod 755 /usr/bin/dpkg
[07:26] <Lynoure> sa6oook: modules is not the whole kernel. Or did it set up the actual kernel for you?
[07:27] <Engdoug_> its a litle strange,..
[07:27] <JOSF> ryanakca: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39353/
[07:29] <ryanakca> JOSF: ok, so your database is still there, it's probably just because dpkg wasn't executable
[07:29] <ryanakca> try running adept again
[07:29] <JOSF> I did not change anything to dpkg. It is listed as executable on on the second run it was there. Okay, I will try.
[07:30] <ryanakca> chmod 755    made it executable
[07:30] <JOSF> ryanakca: I did not chmod 755, since there was no need to do so ;-)
[07:31] <ryanakca> eh hunh
[07:31] <JOSF> It was not in my path at first try, it is not even in my slocate db anymore
[07:31] <JOSF> But on second try it was there.
[07:31] <JOSF> Very strange
[07:31] <JOSF> adept does not start
[07:32] <JOSF> it takes the console and nothin happens. I need to ctrl_c to get out of it
[07:34] <wilman> what is a good program to watch dvd?
[07:34] <Ace2016> wilman: kplayer :)
[07:34] <wilman> ok ;)
[07:34] <wilman> thx
[07:35] <ryanakca> JOSF: hmm...
[07:35] <wilman> is it really good?
[07:35] <Ace2016> front end to mplayer so it plays everything, written in qt so it fits in well with your qt theme, you need the w32 codecs and dvdcss stuff installed
[07:36] <wilman> ok
[07:40] <Ace2016> wilman: make sure to get it from cvs from sourceforge because the version on their website is only 0.5.3, the cvs version is 0.5.9, they said they're going to release at 0.6
[07:41] <DarkWizzard> hello all
[07:41] <DarkWizzard> when I put in a cd
[07:42] <DarkWizzard> it tryes to mount it
[07:42] <DarkWizzard> but it gives me an error
[07:42] <DarkWizzard> "Malformed url"
[07:42] <DarkWizzard> same thing with my mp3 player
[07:42] <DarkWizzard> what is causing this ?
[07:43] <MrBallZ> question,  How good is the Intel GMZ 950 graphics chipset ... compared to Nvidia - ATI , under linux .... without going to the propietary driver thing ...
[07:44] <mitch__> Can anyone help me figure out why my WPA wireless won;t work anymore after installing KDE?
[07:44] <morphado> has anyone a solution to the problem of kubuntu 6.10 shutdown
[07:44] <wilman> ok
[07:45] <jn> hello
[07:45] <jn> hello again - I've just joined soemething but I don't yet koinw what it is
[07:46] <Ace2016> jn: what do you mean joined?
[07:47] <DarkWizzard> can anyone help me
[07:47] <DarkWizzard> ?
[07:47] <wilman> http://websvn.kde.org/ ?
[07:48] <Plaguez> Lol.
[07:48] <Plaguez> When netbeans runs on my ubunto machine, it results in a denial of service. Lol.
[07:48] <Plaguez> Guess 256mb ram, cant handle it. Lol.
[07:49] <morphado> but i am the only one
[07:49] <DarkWizzard> is there any chance I can make my mp3 player writable by my user
[07:49] <DarkWizzard> not only by root ?
[07:49] <oht> there is a chance!
[07:49] <oht> ;)
[07:50] <DarkWizzard> how ?
[07:50] <jn> I have recently installed Kubuntu linux and am learning how to use it
[07:50] <DarkWizzard> oht: can you please tell me ?
[07:50] <jn> This is the first time I have tried to use the Konversation software
[07:50] <oht> well i'm not exactly sure
[07:50] <jn> I assume everyone here is using Kubuntu?
[07:51] <oht> DarkWizzard: does it mount automatically or do you mount it?
[07:51] <oht> (with the mount command
[07:51] <DarkWizzard> i mount it
[07:51] <DarkWizzard> with mount -t vfat /dev/sda /media/sda
[07:51] <oht> cool
[07:51] <oht> type 'man mount'
[07:51] <oht> and it should say in there how to assign diff permissions for diff users
[07:52] <jn> Is there anyone here from the UK?
[07:53] <Ace2016> jn: does it matter?
[07:54] <jn> Does it matter - only that it would be very helpful for me to know if there are any people who can help with technical problems
[07:54] <jn> ... as I have not used this sort of system before
[07:54] <DarkWizzard> just ask the question
[07:54] <DarkWizzard> and we wil help
[07:55] <DarkWizzard> if we can of course
[07:55] <jn> OK thanks!
[07:55] <jn> I have installed linux becasue I have had such a lot of problems with windows and viruses etc.  At least it seems to cure that difficulty, but....
[07:56] <jn> for now I can only get a 640 by 480 screen resolution, and....#
[07:56] <DarkWizzard> oh
[07:56] <archangel_> how do I get my multi card reader working using dapper?
[07:56] <jn> I can't get the machine to s'see' any other external IDE drives.
[07:56] <DarkWizzard> jn: if you type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:56] <DarkWizzard> into terminal
[07:56] <DarkWizzard> you can configure your display
[07:57] <jn> But I have managed to use the Open Office and the Konqueror OK
[07:57] <DarkWizzard> external as USB connected ?
[07:57] <DarkWizzard> you need to mount them
[07:57] <wilman> arr i deleted a media program but now i can't watch dvd's anymore with kaffeine
[07:57] <archangel_> yes
[07:57] <wilman> stupid linux dependencies
[07:57] <archangel_> DarkWizzard: I guess you were talking to me
[07:57] <Ace2016> wilman: what media app? xine? thats kaffeine's backend
[07:58] <DarkWizzard> archangel_: I have no ideea I was talking to jn :)
[07:58] <wilman> yea i think thats the one
[07:58] <morphado> has anyone a solution to the problem of kubuntu 6.10 shutdown
[07:58] <archangel_> DarkWizzard:  lol sorry
[07:58] <DarkWizzard> morphado: I think I saw it on ubuntuforums.com
[07:58] <Ace2016> wilman: well reinstall xine, or install mplayer and watch it in that
[07:58] <morphado> i even tried the acpi=force but it does not work
[07:58] <DarkWizzard> search for edgy shutdown
[07:58] <jn> Hello Dark Wizzard...  Thakns for your help, I don't understand how to 'mount' other IDE drives
[07:59] <wilman> ok
[07:59] <DarkWizzard> well I
[07:59] <DarkWizzard> I'm trying to figure it out myself
[07:59] <DarkWizzard> :)
[07:59] <DarkWizzard> man mount is helpfull
[07:59] <oht> DarkWizzard: yeah, nearly all commands have 'man' pages, which are just big long mouthful documents of every option and stuff
[08:00] <DarkWizzard> yeah
[08:00] <DarkWizzard> thats why they are helpfull
[08:00] <archangel_> can anyone help me access my SD card?
[08:00] <morphado> dark it tried without help
[08:00] <oht> brother archangel: is it being read through a USB interface?
[08:01] <wilman> i wish these dependencies where better orderd
[08:01] <archangel_> yes,
[08:01] <oht> archangel: does it usually show up in windows as a removable drive?
[08:01] <oht> (or have you ever used it in windows)
[08:01] <archangel_> it tells me      "mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[08:02] <oht> are you root?
[08:02] <stdin> !pmount
[08:02] <ubotu> pmount: mount removable devices as normal user. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.13-1build1 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 588 kB
[08:02] <archangel_> yes
[08:02] <oht> stdin seems to have an excellent solution ;)
[08:02] <oht> try using sdb, or sdb1
[08:02] <oht> etc...
[08:02] <stdin> I always do :P
[08:02] <wilman> arr it still does'nt work
[08:03] <archangel_> sdb?
[08:03] <DarkWizzard> stdin: your my man :)
[08:03] <DarkWizzard> thanks bro
[08:04] <stdin> np DarkWizzard :)
[08:04] <wilman> in kaffeine it says this
[08:04] <wilman> The source can't be read.
[08:04] <wilman> Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (/dev/dvd)
[08:05] <archangel_> oht: what is sdb?
[08:07] <oht> archangel: just another disk device
[08:07] <oht> my removable drives mount as sdb
[08:07] <archangel_> how do I do that?
[08:08] <oht> archangel: go to root, and type 'lsusb'
[08:08] <jlowell> has anyone gotten good 3d games that have native linux versions to play on ubuntu?
[08:08] <archangel_> ok
[08:08] <oht> and see if there is an entry for the card reader
[08:08] <oht> jlowell: ut2004! :D
[08:08] <jlowell> I cant get enemy territory, enemylines, googleearth to run at all
[08:08] <oht> neverwinter nights too
[08:08] <oht> jlowell: are your graphics drivers installed?
[08:08] <oht> (ati or nvidia drivers)
[08:09] <jlowell> oht yes, nvidia, allways get seg faults or
[08:09] <jlowell> um something ll
[08:09] <jlowell> 11
[08:09] <archangel_> what next
[08:10] <oht> weird
[08:10] <oht> i know they released a new driver recently
[08:11] <hume> is there a way to have knetworkmanager connect to a WEP encrypted WLAN without having to type in wallet password each time?
[08:13] <Bubba_Gump> brother oht
[08:15] <oht> Brother bubba
[08:15] <Captain_Haddock> !dhcp
[08:15] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 308 kB
[08:15] <archangel_> anyone know how to access media card readers?
[08:15] <Captain_Haddock> !dhcpd
[08:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhcpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:15] <archangel_> I cant mount my card for some reason
[08:16] <tony_> how do you install rpm's on kubuntu ?
[08:16] <Captain_Haddock> !adept
[08:16] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[08:16] <Captain_Haddock> tony_ ^
[08:16] <tony_> so adapt can install rpm's ?
[08:17] <stdin> tony_: no, adept can't
[08:17] <stdin> tony_: use alien to convert them
[08:17] <stdin> !alien
[08:17] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:17] <tony_> i downed programs called lightscribe .. it should integrate into K3B to burn lables directly from your cd /dvd onto your disk but is in RPM
[08:18] <Captain_Haddock> oh
[08:18] <Captain_Haddock> sorry
[08:18] <jlowell> oht: how do I check what version of nvidia im using?
[08:19] <rEvolution27> i know this is a stupid question but how do you instal firefox?
[08:19] <tony_> alien seems to be cool program to package for kubuntu :)
[08:19] <Captain_Haddock> !firefox
[08:19] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:19] <rEvolution27> tnx
[08:20] <mm112> hey, does anyone have a link where i can look up stuff about local security...someone had the bright idea that we should use ubuntu where i work...its a school
[08:20] <tony_> using linux is always a bright idea :)
[08:21] <mm112> normally i would agree, but i have no idea how to do local security :-/
[08:21] <VR_> does the alternative cd have the gnome/kde desktop or do you have to apt-get it
[08:21] <jlowell> anyone tell me how to find out what version of nvidia I'm running currently?
[08:22] <oht> jlowell: is there an entry in the menu for 'NVidia X Server Settings'
[08:22] <archangel_> hmmm, according to the forums I have checked out, Ubuntu has not been very compatible to card readers
[08:22] <tony_> i leave that to gurus in this chat :) .. my security ain that good ..
[08:22] <oht> should have a green nv icon
[08:22] <stdin> VR_: alternate CD is the same as the desktop one, except it's a text installer, it's not the server CD, it installes either Gnome KDE or XFCE, depending on the CD
[08:22] <jlowell> oht the kmenu?
[08:23] <VR_> stdin: so, it doesn't have a live cd session, correct?
[08:23] <stdin> VR_: correct, if you've installed debian before, it's the same
[08:23] <VR_> stdin: Awesome. thanks
[08:23] <stdin> np
[08:24] <VR_> it's the old way of installing ubuntu, kind of
[08:24] <jlowell> oht no there isnt
[08:24] <stdin> yeah, before the liveCD was also the install cd
[08:24] <oht> try typing nv into a console and then tab to autocomplete
[08:24] <oht> see if there's anything that comes up for nvidia
[08:25] <jlowell> nvidia-bug-report.sh  nvidia-settings
[08:25] <jlowell> nvidia-glx-config     nvidia-xconfig
[08:26] <hume> anyone got advice on how to avoid having to type in wallet password on every boot on an encrypted wlan, with knetworkmanager?
[08:26] <nixternal> hume: nope, i have to do it as well :)
[08:26] <oht> nvidia-settings
[08:26] <oht> then
[08:27] <hume> nixternal, there used to be the network-admin, but that seems to be obsolete, right?
[08:27] <nixternal> from what i have seen, yes
[08:27] <nixternal> i have kwallet asking for all kinds of passwords, well one password for quite a few things
[08:27] <hume> nixternal, you know how to set the /network/interfaces manually, then?
[08:27] <nixternal> kontact/kmail, knetman, and something else
[08:27] <bele__> yes, kubuntu dapper runs fine in vmware
[08:27] <nixternal> hume: yes
[08:28] <nixternal> on this lappy though i can't use knetworkmanager, using ndiswrapper :(
[08:28] <hume> nixternal, is there a wiki page or something? it is how to set the encryption password that I am unsure about
[08:28] <Captain_Haddock> I just installed the dhcpd3 packages, but it's not starting up. syslog says:
[08:29] <Captain_Haddock> dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth1 (10.0.0.1).
[08:29] <Captain_Haddock> Where do I fix this?
[08:29] <nixternal> hume, you can search knetworkmanager either on ubuntuforums.org, kubuntuforums.net or the wikis
[08:29] <nixternal> don't know though off-hand
[08:29] <hume> nixternal, ok, thx...i
[08:29] <hume> i
[08:29] <nixternal> i
[08:29] <hume> i'll give it another try
[08:29] <nixternal> hehe
[08:29] <hume> :)
[08:30] <nixternal> the damn ' is to close to return/enter
[08:30] <hume> the ' is too close to the enter key
[08:30] <nixternal> ;_
[08:30] <nixternal> errr, :)
[08:30] <hume> :)
[08:31] <durontux> hola
[08:37] <stdin> Captain_Haddock: looked at /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf ?
[08:37] <wilman> my 5.1 sound works, but when I set xine to play 5.1 it does'nt work
[08:41] <LBB> Hi all! Simple question: how do i re-enable the master-volume slider (kmix) in the taskbar, next to klipper?
[08:41] <weatherhead> is kmix running?
[08:42] <tony_> OK, i converted RPM to Deb format , and installed the program .. nothing works . lol.
[08:42] <LBB> when i run kmix i get the window, not the aplet
[08:43] <weatherhead> how are you starting kmix?
[08:43] <stdin> LBB: make sure you have the settings right in kmix
[08:43] <HymnToLife> LBB, Settings > Configure KMix > Dock into panel
[08:43] <FlasherMaC> hello
[08:43] <LBB> HymnToLife: found that, but doesn't do anything
[08:43] <weatherhead> you'll also want enable system tray volume control
[08:44] <FlasherMaC> i have installed ubunto but found i like the KDE better
[08:44] <LBB> weatherhead done that aswell, started kmix via konsole
[08:44] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: trying to fix it there thanks. What's the point of gdhcpd then? :P
[08:44] <FlasherMaC> my system seems to hang for a sec every 30 secs or so
[08:44] <Captain_Haddock> !nat
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <Ace2016> FlasherMaC: tried looking at the process table in ksysguard?
[08:45] <FlasherMaC> is there an equivelent to ctl + atl + del so i can see what i have running
[08:45] <LBB> FlasherMaC the audio/movies hang, or does everything hang?
[08:45] <FlasherMaC> as you can see that was my question
[08:45] <FlasherMaC> thankyou
[08:45] <stdin> Captain_Haddock: no clue, been a few months since I set up a dhcp server, that was for a simple network tho, and I just edited the config file by hand
[08:46] <Ace2016> FlasherMaC: Ctrl + Esc, or press Alt+F2 and type ksysguard and press enter to get ksysguard and watch the process table
[08:46] <FlasherMaC> audio and video goes glitchy and mouse freezes
[08:46] <LBB> weatherhead how should i start kmix? is it relevant to the taskbar thing?
[08:47] <weatherhead> no not really
[08:47] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: ah. I used to have a SUSE box previously, and the network setup on it was amazingly simple even for a n00b like me.
[08:47] <weatherhead> that settings thing should work
[08:47] <weatherhead> talking of suse, I am mainly a suse user
 thankyou i'm going to have a look now.
[08:47] <stdin> Captain_Haddock: I'm no guru myself, I just google *everything* :P
[08:47] <weatherhead> just installed 6.10 and see that init no longer works properly
[08:48] <weatherhead> what's the simple way to "init 3" ?
[08:48] <oht> telinit 3
[08:48] <oht> in a console
[08:48] <weatherhead> heh
[08:48] <weatherhead> ta
[08:48] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: :D
[08:49] <weatherhead> doesn't appear to do anything
[08:50] <stdin> weatherhead: used sudo?
[08:50] <Ace2016> if you go into init3 wouldn't that kill konversation? and stop this konversation?
[08:50] <marcelo> kubuntu-es please
[08:50] <weatherhead> uh yes it would
[08:50] <weatherhead> and hence, since it hasn't, I haven't gone into init 3
[08:50] <bones78> Is it easy to upgrade kubuntu to 6.10 from 6.06?
[08:51] <weatherhead> but looking at the services, X only seems to get shut down in init 1
[08:51] <weatherhead> how rare
[08:51] <Ace2016> well then, ctrl + f1, and then login as yourself, then do sudo su, and then type init 3, i guess thats what i'd do
[08:52] <Ace2016> oht: it should be the same in ubuntu and kubuntu? what do you use?
[08:52] <HymnToLife> !edgy | bones78
[08:52] <ubotu> bones78: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[08:52] <HymnToLife> yes, it is easy :)
[08:52] <stdin> depends if you used easyubuntu/automatix :p
[08:53] <HymnToLife> which you shouldn't have in the first place :p
[08:53] <stdin> I never touch it, it's evil :)
[08:54] <bones78> That looks great, I'l give it a shot. Thankyou all
[08:55] <weatherhead> well
[08:55] <weatherhead> it seems a lot of trouble to go to just to install new NVIDIA drivers
[08:56] <stdin> weatherhead: how come you want runlevel 3 ?
[08:56] <HymnToLife> weatherhead, you must be kidding, it's ridiculously easy
[08:56] <weatherhead> I'm just used to other distros that's all
[08:56] <weatherhead> it probably is hilariously easy, but I'm an ubuntu noob
[09:07] <marcelo_> como instalo amule en linux
[09:07] <marcelo_> ?
[09:07] <HymnToLife> !es | marcelo
[09:07] <ubotu> marcelo: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:08] <daniel777> marcelo
[09:08] <daniel777> metete a kubuntu-es y te explico
[09:08] <daniel777> !de | marcelo
[09:08] <ubotu> marcelo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:08] <daniel777> !br | marcelo
[09:08] <ubotu> marcelo: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:08] <daniel777> hahahah that's fun
[09:09] <daniel777> !pl | marcelo
[09:09] <ubotu> marcelo: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:09] <HymnToLife> !botabuse | daniel777
[09:09] <ubotu> daniel777: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:09] <daniel777> !Bot
[09:09] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:09] <daniel777> nice
[09:09] <Ace2016> Is there a way to renice all processes run in a particular console? like an export command which means that say when i run make, all the things it launches will have a niceness of 5 instead of 0? but i just want this for a single konsole tab
[09:12] <MrBallZ> i'm using kernel 2.6.15-23-686 , and the one I see i can upgrade to in Adept is to   2.6.17-10-386  ... is it recomended .... is there a 2.6.17-10-686  ???
[09:13] <daniel777> how can i activate utf-8 codification :S
[09:14] <HymnToLife> MrBallZ, You'll need to upgrade to Edgy if you want to upgrade your kernel
[09:14] <HymnToLife> or compile it yourself
[09:14] <HymnToLife> and no, there is no more 686 kernel in Edgy, use the "generic" one
[09:16] <MrBallZ> HymnToLife: i just upgraded to Edgy ... so why no more 686 if I can ask ... and I use generic or 386?
[09:16] <HymnToLife> ask the Ubuntu developpers
[09:16] <HymnToLife> and you should use generic, not 386
[09:17] <MrBallZ> ok
[09:35] <Pirate-king> anybody running a web cam??????????
[09:36] <fdoving> Pirate-king: no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:36] <fdoving> :)
[09:36] <lunchtime> hi, im having some trouble getting my internet to work on Kubuntu any one available to help troubleshoot ?
[09:37] <Captain_Haddock> ach! Configuring the network in kubuntu is teh suck :(
[09:37] <pantheon> anyone knows a graphical program for configuring iptables?
[09:37] <lunchtime> would ubuntu be better ? i have both available
[09:37] <Captain_Haddock> Not to mention the service manager :/
[09:37] <fdoving> pantheon: guarddog (the simple one), fwbuilder (advanced).
[09:37] <Captain_Haddock> pantheon: firestarter perhaps?
[09:38] <Captain_Haddock> lunchtime: No idea if I can help, but you might want to provide more information.
[09:38] <pantheon> fdoving: does that advanced mean complicated?
[09:38] <lunchtime> for some reason it wont detect my on onboard nic or expansion nic
[09:38] <lunchtime> should the internet work on the Live!cd before installing ?
[09:38] <Captain_Haddock> lunchtime: usually it does. What chipset?
[09:38] <lunchtime> abit motherboard
[09:38] <lunchtime> nforce
[09:39] <lunchtime> i can get the model if needed
[09:39] <fdoving> pantheon: complicated is relative, http://www.fwbuilder.org/archives/cat_screenshots.html
[09:39] <Captain_Haddock> pantheon: even though it's not GUI based, I found ipkungfu very simple and straightforward to set up.
[09:40] <pantheon> I'll take a look , thanks
[09:40] <Captain_Haddock> pantheon: firestarter is simple and comes with GUI as well.
[09:41] <fdoving> lunchtime: what kind of connection do you have to the internet? cable, adsl, isdn?
[09:41] <lunchtime> verizon fios
[09:41] <fdoving> lunchtime: what is that?
[09:41] <lunchtime> FIBER
[09:42] <fdoving> ok.
[09:42] <fdoving> sounds cool.
[09:42] <fdoving> lunchtime: then i guess it's regular ethernet connecting the computer?
[09:42] <lunchtime> correct , coming from my router , which dchp normally works on
[09:43] <fdoving> lunchtime: ok. go to KMenu -> System -> KInfoCenter
[09:44] <fdoving> lunchtime: kmenu is the K in the lower left corner.
[09:44] <lunchtime> yes i know
[09:44] <lunchtime> im on the live disk now , is that ok ?
[09:44] <fdoving> that's ok.
[09:45] <fdoving> find 'Network Interfaces' in the list at the left side, in KInfoCenter.
[09:45] <lunchtime> ok im in
[09:45] <lunchtime> k
[09:47] <lunchtime> its only showing " lo "
[09:49] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[09:49] <DaSkreech> sudo depmod -a
[09:50] <lunchtime> daskreech: is that for me to type
[09:50] <DaSkreech> Yes if you'd like
[09:50] <DaSkreech> When My eth cards disappeared that worked
[09:50] <Captain_Haddock> lunchtime: are the cards working fine on your current OS?
[09:51] <lunchtime> yep they both work
[09:51] <lunchtime> im on my laptop right now which is next to the other computer with kubuntu on it
[09:52] <lunchtime> so i can be on here and work on the problem at the same time
[09:52] <HymnToLife> lunchtime, if it's only showing 'lo', I guess you need to install drivers for your NIC(s)
[09:52] <lunchtime> i thought it should have done that durning the install process
[09:53] <DaSkreech> lunchtime: try my way from the command line
[09:53] <lunchtime> i did , it ran the command , and came back to the command line
[09:53] <HymnToLife> lunchtime, does    sudo ifconfig -a       ouput anything else than lo ?
[09:54] <lunchtime> sit0
[09:54] <HymnToLife> you definitely need drivers
[09:54] <HymnToLife> what kind of NIC do you have ?
[09:54] <lunchtime> i have the one which is onboard , and a dlink card
[09:55] <HymnToLife> please pastebin the output of   lspci
[09:55] <fdoving> lunchtime: sorry, had a huge memleak, that needed attention.
[09:56] <fdoving> lunchtime: inside kinfocenter, select 'PCI'
[09:56] <lunchtime> k im there
[09:56] <fdoving> lunchtime: scroll down till you find something named 'Network controller' something.
[09:56] <fdoving> what's it's name and number?
[09:57] <fdoving> HymnToLife: without internet?
[09:57] <HymnToLife> yu don't even have an USB stick ?
[09:58] <lunchtime> i have one
[09:58] <fdoving> lunchtime: can't you find any network controller in that list?
[09:58] <lunchtime> i dont see one
[09:58] <fdoving> lunchtime: what about 'network controller' ?
[09:59] <lunchtime> nope
[09:59] <lunchtime> nothing mentioning network
[09:59] <HymnToLife> "Ethernet controller", rather, methinks
[09:59] <fdoving> correct. that's what i meant to write the second time.
[10:00] <lunchtime> now that i think about it , i might have a spare 3com network card in another machine . would that be more likely to be auto recognized
[10:00] <fdoving> lunchtime: ethernet controller?
[10:00] <HymnToLife> lunchtime, wouldn't hurt to try
[10:00] <fdoving> lunchtime: most 3coms will be autodetected, but anything PCI should appear in that list.
[10:01] <lunchtime> i see my video card , and sound card
[10:01] <HymnToLife> lunchtime, lspci | grep Ethernet
[10:01] <HymnToLife> anything ?
[10:01] <lunchtime> one sec
[10:01] <lunchtime> nothing
[10:01] <HymnToLife> hmm
[10:01] <lunchtime> it just came back to command line
[10:01] <fdoving> weird.
[10:02] <HymnToLife> now THAT's weird
[10:02] <fdoving> go for the 3com.
[10:02] <lunchtime> im gona run down stairs and snag that card from the other machine ! brb 2 minutes
[10:02] <Daisuke_Ido> boy do i feel fortunate...  ralink 2500 :)
[10:02] <HymnToLife> same here, Intel ipw3945 :)
[10:02] <fdoving> bcm43xx here.
[10:03] <fdoving> Captain_Haddock: why?
[10:03] <HymnToLife> SuSE ? Server ?
[10:03] <HymnToLife> you guy must be kidding
[10:03] <Captain_Haddock> HymnToLife: just a local thinggy
[10:04] <Captain_Haddock> fdoving: setting up dhcp + nat is being a pain on kubuntu :(
[10:04] <fdoving> Captain_Haddock: not at all.
[10:04] <Captain_Haddock> <--- being a n00b is part of the problem :P
[10:05] <HymnToLife> why don't you just get a router ?
[10:06] <Captain_Haddock> Why bother, when I can do it right here... :P
[10:06] <fdoving> Captain_Haddock: have you tried 'guidedog' and 'gdhcpd' ? (those are package names).
[10:06] <fdoving> I need to go watch a tv-show with my gf. bbl.
[10:06] <Captain_Haddock> fdoving: yep.
[10:06] <Captain_Haddock> ok
[10:06] <Captain_Haddock> cheers
[10:07] <fdoving> see you.
[10:07] <Captain_Haddock> adios
[10:08] <DaSkreech> Which show?
[10:09] <notech> HymnToLife: if a linux router and firewall combination are done right, it can be more secure than those bargain routers
[10:11] <lunchtime> ok im back i have 2 cards to choose from , netgear or 3com
[10:11] <eilker> !xen
[10:11] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[10:11] <DaSkreech> 3com :)
[10:11] <DaSkreech> !ps3
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <eilker> is xen similar to vmware ?
[10:12] <DaSkreech> eilker: no It's a hypervisor
[10:12] <lunchtime> ok be just a moment to install it ,
[10:12] <DaSkreech> Though I think the vmware server is a hypervisor as well
[10:12] <eilker> DaSkreech: i have vmware server, sorry but what is hypervisor ?
[10:13] <eilker> let me google :)
[10:13] <DaSkreech> eilker: A Virtual machine runs on top of the operating system a hypervisor runs in between the OS and the metal
[10:13] <DaSkreech> or wiki :)
[10:13] <Ace2016> !wii
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wii - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <eilker> i see thank you
[10:15] <DaSkreech> !wee
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wee - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <DaSkreech> :-(
[10:19] <n8k99> is someone tryin to connect to a ps3 or a wii?
[10:20] <notech> think they were just playing with the bot
[10:20] <lunchtime> the moment of truth !
[10:21] <berryyyl> is anyone have trouble with kxdocker
[10:21] <berryyyl> when i start it it says composite not working
[10:21] <berryyyl> or something like that
[10:21] <berryyyl> or is there equivalents of kxdocker that i can try? i didn't like kooldock, so it there anything else?
[10:22] <DaSkreech> n8k99: I was trying to install on a PS3
[10:23] <n8k99> oh yeah - is it going good?
[10:24] <DaSkreech> Nope :)
[10:24] <lunchtime> WE HAVE INTERNET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:24] <DaSkreech> Dink: How's it going Dink?
[10:25] <blas> hi
[10:26] <lunchtime> are there any main advantages of Kubuntu over Ubuntu besides the GUI ?
[10:26] <coreymon77> !seen Whopper
[10:26] <ubotu> Whopper is on IRC right now!
[10:26] <lunchtime> the computer is 2ghz, 1 gig of ram , 128mb videocard
[10:27] <n8k99> lunchtime: great network transparency - highly integrated applications
[10:28] <lunchtime> so if i have a computer that can run KDE , its worth the upgrade ?
[10:28] <blas> just installed kubuntu, i logged in and the screen settings res+herz probably wrong, i tried to use display setting from "start" menu but it says monitor and display module cannot be loaded. nay idea?
[10:28] <Pirate-king> anybody use digikam?
[10:30] <n8k99> Pirate-king: I'm a bigtime fan of digikam
[10:31] <Pirate-king> ok sees my camera
[10:31] <Pirate-king> but not the pics
[10:31] <eilker> !mbr
[10:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:31] <n8k99> digikam sees the camera?
[10:31] <Pirate-king> yeah
[10:31] <jerp> blas, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it might fill in the blacks for you
[10:31] <n8k99> you're better off than me, I have to go to the camera using the filemanager on konqueror
[10:31] <DaSkreech> blas_: Hello?
[10:32] <lunchtime> ok im intalling kubuntu , the hd is 80gig , and it will be the only partition , how should i set it up
[10:32] <jerp> blanks rather
[10:32] <blas_> DaSkreech: yes?
[10:32] <n8k99> Pirate-king: move photos into a directory on my HD, then delete them from the camera
[10:32] <blas_> jerp: thanks
[10:32] <DaSkreech> Did you get what jerp said?
[10:32] <DaSkreech> Ok :)
[10:32] <blas_> yes iam here from the kubuntu box :)
[10:33] <DaSkreech> lunchtime: make a Home partition!!!
[10:33] <Pirate-king> doesn't see the photos
[10:33] <blas_> i suppose i must kill my x first then rite?
[10:33] <jerp> the command does it
[10:33] <n8k99> Pirate-king: do you see the camera as a folder on your desktop?
[10:33] <DaSkreech> blas_: Not really but you could
[10:34] <malik__> hi there.........is here any one using kmldonkey and can help me with my issue?
[10:34] <blas_> DaSkreech: kk
[10:34] <Pirate-king> ok got it
[10:35] <n8k99> Pirate-king: can you open it with Konqueror?
[10:35] <Pirate-king> nope digikam
[10:35] <n8k99> can you see the photos now?
[10:35] <blas_> DaSkreech: uhh i have some language problems in console.. any way to set console to eng? since iam hungarian it tries hungarian but its really strange :) so better to use english there
[10:35] <Pirate-king> yeah
[10:36] <Pirate-king> pm?
[10:36] <froud> why when I install apps do they not show in the applications menu? How can I make installed apps show?
[10:36] <n8k99> Pirate-king: sweet!
[10:36] <n8k99> you should be able to import them from the camera then
[10:36] <jerp> froud, you have to add the menu command entry
[10:36] <froud> jerp: manually?
[10:37] <jerp> yes, right click on the kmenu and find edit menu
[10:37] <eilker> !alsa
[10:37] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:37] <froud> jerp: I was hoping that was not the case :-)
[10:37] <Pirate-king> I am
[10:37] <Pirate-king> importing them
[10:37] <jerp> everyone does
[10:37] <aleksanteri> !xfce
[10:37] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[10:37] <aleksanteri> !xcl
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xcl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <aleksanteri> -_- what was it?
[10:37] <n8k99> Pirate-king: awesome. did you install the kipiplugins?
[10:38] <Pirate-king> nope
[10:38] <Pirate-king> from adept?
[10:38] <n8k99> Pirate-king: you really want to do that as it gets you a good toolkit for editing the photos.
[10:38] <n8k99> yes from adept
[10:38] <Pirate-king> ok
[10:38] <marcelo> hello kubuntus/es please
[10:39] <n8k99> plus there are a couple extensions taht let you export directly from digikam to flickr ora gallery2 installation
[10:39] <DaSkreech> !es
[10:39] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:39] <aleksanteri> !es|marcelo
[10:39] <ubotu> marcelo: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:39] <Pirate-king> is that how you spell it?
[10:39] <Pirate-king> kipiplugins
[10:39] <n8k99> I think it's kipi-plugins, but if you just type kipi in the search field of adept it'll turn up
[10:40] <hume> n8k99, how do you export from digikam to gallery2?
[10:40] <eilker> !visudo
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about visudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <n8k99> you have to have the kipiplugins installed
[10:40] <eilker> !visido
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about visido - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <n8k99> hume: then under File > Export > Gallery2
[10:41] <intelikey> in the repos there is a package  "rkhunter"  which is supposed to check the system for malware/rootkits    i find it odd that it pukes out this warning on startup.
[10:41] <intelikey> Rootkit Hunter 1.2.7 is running
[10:41] <intelikey> Determining OS... Unknown
[10:41] <intelikey> Warning: This operating system is not fully supported!
[10:41] <blas_> whats the name of the english code for console? now its LANG="hu_HU.UTF-8"
[10:41] <n8k99> hume: you'll have to do some configuration the first time you use it- login and password stuff
[10:41] <DaSkreech> !info krecipe
[10:41] <ubotu> Package krecipe does not exist in any distro I know
[10:41] <DaSkreech> !info krecipes
[10:41] <ubotu> krecipes: recipes manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0~beta1-1 (edgy), package size 735 kB, installed size 2296 kB
[10:42] <hume> n8k99,  ah....remote gallery?
[10:42] <intelikey> blas_ en_US
[10:42] <n8k99> yeah I think that's it
[10:42] <intelikey> blas_ or  C
[10:42] <n8k99> lemme check quick
[10:43] <n8k99> hume: Album > Export > Remote Gallery
[10:44] <hume> n8k99, great! just what i wanted..:)
[10:44] <blas_> intelikey: hm export LANG="en_US" , relogged and its hun again :/
[10:45] <intelikey> blas_ you can not export beyond the running shell
[10:45] <DaSkreech> !PS3 is Installing Ubuntu directly on the PS3 is as yet a difficult procedure but can be made easier by installing Fedora as outlined at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316047. !fluxbuntu is working on being a PS3 enabled Distro. Maybe drop in #fluxbuntu-devel to see what's going on?
[10:46] <Captain_Haddock> fdoving: I take all that back :P
[10:46] <n8k99> hume: it works pretty well, and causes its a kipiplugin it works for other photosoftware
[10:46] <Captain_Haddock> well, most of it :)
[10:46] <blas_> intelikey: how may i cchange it then
[10:46] <intelikey> blas_ /etc/environment
[10:47] <intelikey> blas_ for a user only change   ~/.environment   might work    i never tried.
[10:49] <somerville32> DaSkreech, Thats not true. Sony e-mailed us and gave us a nice how-to which I believe is now on the wiki.
[10:49] <DaSkreech> somerville32: Eh?
[10:50] <somerville32> re: PS3 factoid suggestion
[10:52] <hume> n8k99, hrm...i cannot log into my gallery - do you know what port it uses? if it is a firewall issue
[10:53] <hume> n8k99, that is, cannot log in via digikam
[10:53] <n8k99> hume: aaaahhh, one sec
[10:54] <intelikey> blas_ a good example of trying to export to a parent is      echo -e '#!/bin/sh \n\nexport Q=1 \necho "$Q test 1"' > testing.exports ;chmod 755 testing.exports ;./testing.exports ; echo "$Q test 2"
[10:55] <intelikey> it simply can't be done in linux as far as i know.
[10:55] <blas_> intelikey: edited /etc/envio.. stil declare -x LANG="hu_HU.UDF-8"
[10:55] <blas_> intelikey: moment ill check what u just wrote
[10:55] <hume> n8k99, my firewall seems to be disabled, so it would not be that - can there be other configurations?
[10:56] <n8k99> hume: you have to make certain it is connected to http://www.yoursite.com/gallery-folder/main.php
[10:56] <berryyyl> how do i make it so that newly opened webpage displays the last webpage i was on instead of the home page
[10:57] <DaSkreech> somerville32: A link would be nice :)
[10:58] <blas_> intelikey: 1 test 1
[10:58] <blas_> intelikey:  test 1
[10:58] <blas_> 2 i mean
[10:58] <intelikey> blas_ hmmm you might have something like  /etc/rc?.d/??locales.sh   or some such that overrides the default environment     also you said "<blas_> whats the name of the english code for console?"  <<< key word being "console" as opposed to "konsole" which would be a terminal not a console.     if you meant terminal  that's an Xorg/kde issue.
[10:59] <hume> n8k99, i copy the address even, from the browser... but it says the address probabluy is wrong...?
[10:59] <DaSkreech> somerville32: Best I can find is the Forums
[11:00] <intelikey> blas_ yes the missing '1'  on test 2  proves that the running shell did not recieve the export.   you can edit testing.exports   and see what i mean.
[11:00] <blas_> intelikey: no its not the grafical thing :)
[11:00] <somerville32> DaSkreech, If it isn't in the wiki then I'll need to hunt it down
[11:00] <somerville32> DaSkreech, Send me an e-mail ( cody-somerville@ubuntu.com ) to remind me.
[11:00] <intelikey> blas_ then if locales is not overriding the stuff in /etc/env*    idk.
[11:00] <DaSkreech> somerville32: Alright or give me a pointer to where to start hunting so I can help
[11:00] <intelikey> and locals can do that.
[11:01] <somerville32> DaSkreech, I'll have to e-mail someone else (and I'm running out the door so I can't do it right now)
[11:01] <DaSkreech> ok
[11:01] <animimotus> hello
[11:01] <animimotus> someone can paste me his ~/.bashrc please ?
[11:02] <DaSkreech> somerville32: Done
[11:03] <intelikey> blas_ sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales          maybe.
[11:05] <intelikey> blas_    or even  belocs
[11:06] <n8k99> hume: what's the address you are using?
[11:06] <hume> www.vista.se/g2
[11:06] <blas_> intelikey: well "dpkg-reconfigure locales" does nothing just told me all lang_LANG.. is up-to-date
[11:07] <n8k99> that's the whole link?
[11:08] <hume> n8k99, well, main.php  after that
[11:08] <n8k99> hume: do you have an installation of gallery on your website?
[11:08] <hume> n8k99, yes...
[11:08] <intelikey> blas_ did you try dpkg-reconfigure belocs         i'm not sure it will help.
[11:09] <hume> n8k99, shouldn't I?
[11:09] <n8k99> hume: oh yes, that's how it works
[11:09] <blas_> intelikey: no such pkg :/
[11:09] <hume> n8k99, yeah....that's what I wanted....
[11:10] <n8k99> hume: for instance, gallery and wordpress work together on my website, http://eckenrodehouse.net
[11:10] <intelikey> but it sounds like a locales issue.   if /etc/environment is being ignored it has to be some    "locales"  package doing it.   possably even in the  /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh    file  but    idk.
[11:10] <hume> but easy export from digikam would be very very nice
[11:10] <n8k99> hume: then basically the kipiplugin enables me to upload to the gallery2 appplication from digikam
[11:10] <intelikey> another issue with rkhunter   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39370/plain/
[11:10] <silvania> hi, anyone able to give a advice on a good dictionary for linux, simular to "clue on windows"? I need norwegian-english-german-italian :)
[11:10] <n8k99> on my server
[11:11] <intelikey> oh wait  it looks like i might have caught that mirror in a reset.  it's working now.
[11:12] <hume> n8k99, ah, you have gallery integrated.. into what?
[11:12] <n8k99> hume: wordpress
[11:12] <hume> what's that?...
[11:12] <n8k99> wordpress is a blogging/cms software
[11:12] <n8k99> it writes all the pages
[11:12] <n8k99> hume:defines the styles for the page, etc
[11:13] <hume> nice...:)
[11:13] <silvania> does anyone know? when i try google is just end up with a trillion pages for dictionaries online
[11:13] <hume> n8k99, maybe I got it worng and used the address for the gallery, not the album....?
[11:14] <n8k99> hume: yeah it's _your_ album not the organization that makes Gallery that the plugin gives you access to
[11:14] <n8k99> ;-)
[11:14] <animimotus> someone can paste me his ~/.bashrc please ?
[11:14] <intelikey> i still get        Determining OS... Unknown
[11:15] <intelikey> Warning: This operating system is not fully supported!
[11:15] <n8k99> hume: the plugin takes the place of Gallery Remote from menalto
[11:15] <DaSkreech> !paste
[11:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:16] <hume> n8k99, no... even if I use the album page it wont work - but: do I need to have a module enabled in gallery2?
[11:16] <n8k99> hume: that might help
[11:16] <DaSkreech> animimotus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39371/
[11:16] <intelikey> and of course this beautiful RED warning "   Checking for passwordless user accounts... Warning!
[11:16] <hume> n8k99, what module?
[11:17] <n8k99> hume: remote or gallery remote
[11:17] <hume> ok
[11:17] <animimotus> DaSkreech: thank you a lot
[11:17] <DaSkreech> Sure
[11:17] <hume> sounds very wise..:)
[11:18] <hume> n8k99, thx....got to install that. thats for tomorrow...thx!
[11:18] <intelikey> heh    Your system contains some unknown version numbers. Please run Rootkit Hunter
[11:18] <intelikey> with the --update parameter or fill in the contact form (www.rootkit.nl)
[11:18] <n8k99> hume:no problem
[11:18] <Crell> Hi all.  First question, is general Ubuntu-family stuff better off here or in #Ubuntu? :-)
[11:18] <blas_> intelikey: well made a line to .bashrc with " export LANG="C" ", it works now
[11:18] <intelikey> i had just done that.  and it's still telling me to --update it   :)
[11:18] <Crell> eg, stuff to do with PHP packages.  I figure that's not flavor-specific.
[11:19] <DaSkreech> Crell: Eh?
[11:19] <intelikey> blas_ yes.  you could in /etc/profile  for system wide.
[11:19] <DaSkreech> Crell: You mean non Gnome stuff?
[11:19] <blas_> intelikey: ah nice ill take a look
[11:19] <intelikey> but that's what /etc/environment is for....
[11:20] <coreymon77> Crell: i dont understand what you mean
[11:20] <Crell> DaSkreech: No, PHP packages and server-oriented stuff.
[11:20] <coreymon77> file:///home/coreymon/Desktop/snowbot/remote.ini
[11:20] <coreymon77> file:///home/coreymon/Desktop/snowbot/script.ini
[11:20] <coreymon77> whoops
[11:20] <coreymon77> wrong pastye
[11:20] <DaSkreech> Crell: Right so non Gnome stuff :)
[11:20] <intelikey> blas_ maybe   add    . /etc/environment    to /etc/profile    and   export LANG      ?
[11:20] <Crell> Stuff that doesn't have to do with KDE or Gnome, but still with Ubuntu packages and versions and such.
[11:20] <DaSkreech> Yes you can go ahaed with that here
[11:21] <Crell> Er, yeah.  (Sorry, missed the non. <g>)
[11:21] <Crell> I see that phpunit2 is slated for feisty.  Is there support for it, official or otherwise, in edgy?
[11:21] <Crell> I'm a bit surprised that it's not in edgy given that it's been out for some time now.
[11:22] <intelikey> well i've got work.   maybe back later.
[11:23] <DaSkreech> !info phpunit2
[11:23] <ubotu> Package phpunit2 does not exist in any distro I know
[11:23] <DaSkreech> !info phpunit2 feisty
[11:23] <ubotu> phpunit2: Unit testing suite for PHP5. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.6-2 (feisty), package size 47 kB, installed size 712 kB
[11:23] <DaSkreech> Crell: Nope :)
[11:24] <DaSkreech> Which means you probably want to be bugging people in #ubuntu+1 :)
[11:24] <Crell> +1?
[11:24] <Crell> I have not heard of this channel.
[11:24] <DaSkreech> Yes :)
[11:25] <Crell> Hm.  Why would bugging people in the Feisty channel be appropriate for an Edgy question? :-)
[11:25] <DaSkreech> Cause the package doesn't exist in Edgy?
[11:26] <Crell> hrm.
[11:31] <Captain_Haddock> !resolution
[11:31] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:33] <mattik> Can I install edubuntu some other oartition as kubuntu and get both running with same grub
[11:34] <mattik> partition
[11:35] <Captain_Haddock> !java
[11:35] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:36] <Crell> mattik: You should be able to dual-boot anything as long as they're in separate partitions.
[11:37] <mattik> Crell: yhank you :) I can use same swap of course?
[11:37] <Crell> That should be fine.
[11:37] <mattik> Crell: Thank you :)
[11:37] <soulrider> hi everyone :)
[11:39] <Captain_Haddock> !commercial
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about commercial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <Daisuke_Ido> evening soulrider
[11:39] <Captain_Haddock> !multiverse
[11:39] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:41] <Captain_Haddock> Do I need the deb-src repositories enabled?
[11:42] <fdoving> not unless you use 'apt-get source'.
[11:42] <Crell> Only if you want to download source code.
[11:42] <Crell> It doesn't hurt anything if you have them anyway, though.
[11:42] <fdoving> hurts download size..
[11:42] <Captain_Haddock> ok, thanks
[11:43] <Captain_Haddock> (disabled)
[11:43] <fdoving> Captain_Haddock: did you figure out dhcp+nat?
[11:44] <Captain_Haddock> fdoving: yes, thanks. (I sent you a message earlier)
[11:44] <Captain_Haddock> fdoving: it was all pebkac of course.
[11:44] <Captain_Haddock> :)
[11:44] <fdoving> good thing :)
[11:46] <faLUCE> Hi, is it possible to launch a program from a .sh script and redirect its STDOUT in a new window? thnks
[11:46] <somerville32> fdoving: It doesn't hurt the download size... it doesn't affect it at all
[11:47] <Captain_Haddock> somerville32: not even of the package list?
[11:47] <fdoving> somerville32: it does. for updates.
[11:47] <fdoving> for 'apt-get updates', that is.
[11:47] <somerville32> fdoving: How so?
[11:48] <somerville32> Oh
[11:48] <somerville32> Sorry, apt-get updates
[11:48] <somerville32> Yeah
[11:48] <somerville32> :P
[11:48] <fdoving> instead of downloading just Packages.gz (index of binary packages) you also download Sources.gz (index of soruce packages)
[11:48] <somerville32> fdoving: Right
[11:49] <mohammed> guys , how to install wolfenstein on kubuntu ?
[11:49] <somerville32> !wolfenstein
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wolfenstein - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <somerville32> Hmmm... I know there is a wiki page somewhere
[11:50] <faLUCE> Hi, is it possible to launch a program from a .sh script and redirect its STDOUT in a new window? thnks
[11:50] <somerville32> faLUCE: What do you mean by "redirect its STDOUT in a _new window_"?
[11:50] <somerville32> Do you mean _to_ a new window?
[11:50] <faLUCE> somerville32: yes
[11:51] <somerville32> faLUCE: Yes, it is possible.
[11:51] <faLUCE> somerville32: how? :)
[11:51] <somerville32> Most terminals have a flag that allows you to launch an application when you launch the terminal
[11:52] <faLUCE> so, with Konsole which is the flag?
[11:53] <somerville32> faLUCE: For more info about how to do it with konsole, run: konsole --help
[11:54] <faLUCE> found it. thnks somerville32
[11:54] <somerville32> You're welcome faLUCE  :)
[11:55] <computer> !dock
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <balsamic_chicken> is there a list of docker programs, is there any besides kxdocker, kooldock, and kiba-dock?
[11:57] <fdoving> balsamic_chicken: you can probably find more if you search http://kde-apps.org
[11:57] <balsamic_chicken> fdoving k thx
[12:01] <cafy> hi all
[12:01] <faLUCE> somerville32: do you know a terminal with some pretty editing facilities?
[12:01] <somerville32> What do you mean by editing facilities?
[12:01] <petros> is it possible to run the xterm in a specific directory?
[12:02] <somerville32> petros: Yes.
[12:02] <petros>  it alsways starts in my home
[12:02] <petros> and i dont find a param
[12:02] <faLUCE> well: if I have to manipulate the stdout with konsole, basically i can do only a cut&paste. I would like something more (i.e: text finding etc.)
[12:03] <petros> somerville32: how?
[12:03] <somerville32> faLUCE: You could pipe it to the pager
[12:03] <faLUCE> (ok: a txt finder is in Konsole too, but I would like some nicer options....)
[12:03] <faLUCE> (maybe is there a gtk konsole? or a qt konsole?)
[12:04] <somerville32> petros: Hmm... maybe you can't
[12:05] <petros> -.-
[12:05] <petros> konsole has this --workdir option
[12:06] <somerville32> petros: Yup
[12:06] <somerville32> Oh wait
[12:06] <somerville32> I see a way
[12:07] <somerville32> Oh nvm
[12:07] <somerville32> lol
[12:08] <petros>  xterm -e 'cd tmp; bash'
[12:08] <petros> :)
[12:11] <faLUCE> another question: is it possible to set the max number of displayed lines, in Konsole? i can't find the option....