[02:09] <XiXaQ> hello everyone.
[02:09] <XiXaQ> when I install new programs, they often don't appear in the menus until the next time I login. Is this a common problem?
[02:09] <XiXaQ> and is it reported?
[02:10] <crimsun> on edgy?
[02:10] <crimsun> it's not normally a bug.
[06:56] <towsonu2003> hi
[08:10] <towsonu2003> hi
[08:10] <towsonu2003> is launchpad okay? it didn't send me any emails after I half-triaged a bunch of bugs...
[08:11] <crimsun> it's a known issue
[08:14] <towsonu2003> ok thanks :)
[08:15] <towsonu2003> oh, if I don't get emails, the security team doesn;t either... see https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vnc4/+bug/77383 regarding a vnc security issue (already posted to the forums)
[08:15] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 77383 in vnc4 "vnc4 authentication bypass" [Critical,Unconfirmed] 
[08:31] <anders__> hmm... I've just been bit by Debian Bug#347412 in Dapper (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=347412)
[08:31] <Ubugtu> Debian bug 347412 in linux-2.6 "using network (skge) and disk (SATA/promise) at same time = one breaks" [Grave,Open] 
[08:32] <anders__> I am running latest released kernel, -27 something
[08:36] <towsonu2003> oh, star trek... bye
[10:08] <giskard> morning
[01:25] <gnomefreak> sfllaw: are you here? seems bugmail died.
[01:26] <Adri2000> gnomefreak: it's a know issue, also in #launchpad, but LP devs are on vacation, and it won't be fixed until they come back... :(
[01:26] <gnomefreak> ah so its not just the mail server for bug mail?
[01:28] <Adri2000> hmm, I don't know
[03:41] <bddebian> Boo
[03:42] <marnanel> boo
[03:42] <bddebian> :-)
[06:09] <tristanbob> what launchpad product is the "auto-play" portion of the CD?  (includes open source apps for windows)
[06:11] <Burgwork> tristanbob: are you talking about the Windows open source stuff? or the Ubuntu installer/
[06:11] <Burgwork> ?
[06:11] <tristanbob> also:  what product is the partitioner part of ubiquity?  (file under ubiquity?)
[06:11] <tristanbob> Burgwork: windows
[06:11] <Burgwork> just ubiquity for the installer, assuming you are talking the graphical part
[06:11] <tristanbob> Burgwork: did you notice that the version number says 6.06
[06:11] <Burgwork> as for the windows, no idea
[06:12] <tristanbob> Burgwork: yes, the graphical partioner to resize partitions (I would like to file a bug in the right product)
[06:20] <Burgwork> that would be ubiquity
[06:24] <tristanbob> "ubiquity does not use Malone as its bug tracker."
[06:25] <tristanbob> where is the right place?
[06:29] <nixternal> tristanbob: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bugs
[06:29] <nixternal> holy smokes, 609 ubiquity bugs alone
[06:30] <tristanbob> that is wierd, I thought it was not in launchpad
[06:31] <tristanbob> nixternal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/ubiquity
[06:31] <nixternal> that is because we aren't the maintainers for ubiquity upstream that is debian i believe
[06:32] <nixternal> and i am wrong it seems
[06:53] <tristanbob> nixternal: :)  am I allowed to "confirm" a bug?  or only QA people?
[06:53] <nixternal> you can confirm i think
[06:53] <Shadow42> Anyone can confirm
[06:53] <nixternal> that's what i thought, wasn't 100% sure though, thanks Shadow42
[06:53] <tristanbob> I cannot find how...
[06:53] <Shadow42> np
[06:54] <Shadow42> tristanbob: You're on the bug's page?
[06:54] <tristanbob> oh click on the package name
[06:54] <Shadow42> Yep
[06:57] <tristanbob> does anyone know what happens if I try to resize a partition smaller than the data already on the drive? (Ubiquity partion resizing)
[06:57] <tristanbob> do I get a warning?
[06:57] <Shadow42> I would hope so
[06:57] <Shadow42> Hang on, I'll boot a spare machine and check
[06:58] <Shadow42> tristanbob: Dapper or Edgy?
[06:58] <tristanbob> Edgy
[06:58] <Shadow42> Good
[06:59] <Shadow42> Whoa
[06:59] <tristanbob> Shadow42: thanks for checking
[06:59] <Shadow42> I found a Breezy install CD in this machine's drive
[06:59] <Shadow42> tristanbob: No problem
[06:59] <tristanbob> here is a related bug that I have confirmed
[06:59] <tristanbob> https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/52830
[06:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 52830 in ubiquity "Installer doesn't comfirm resizing partitions" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[06:59] <Shadow42> Hmm
[07:01] <tristanbob> I am hoping it will not try to resize a partition smaller than the data on the drive
[07:01] <tristanbob> or am I wrong?
[07:01] <Shadow42> I would think that it wouldn't
[07:01] <Shadow42> could you link the bug's URL?
[07:04] <tristanbob> I don't think there is a bug for that yet, I would add a bug if there is no warning
[07:04] <Shadow42> Oh
[07:04] <tristanbob> becareful, the resizing happens IMMEDIATELY after hitting NEXT.  I thought it would all occur after the confirmation screen.
[07:06] <Shadow42> I did about 3 Edgy installs this past week, and I think it added the resize to the operation queue
[07:08] <tristanbob> I did 2 Egdy installs this week, and it "froze" when I hit next on the resize page
[07:08] <Shadow42> Hmm
[07:11] <tristanbob> it wasn't frozen, it was just resizing the partition
[07:13] <Shadow42> Sorry about that, my wireless froze up
[07:13] <tristanbob> it wasn't frozen, it was just resizing the partition
[07:14] <Shadow42> Hmm
[07:25] <Shadow42> tristanbob: Well, Ubiquity doesn't seem to like the machine I'm using
[07:26] <Shadow42> Let me try it on this machine, I'll be right back
[07:26] <tristanbob> thanks Shadow42
[07:26] <Shadow42> np
[07:27] <tristanbob> be careful about losing data
[07:27] <Shadow42> Bah, I'll resize the Windows partition, I can afford it ;)
[07:39] <Shadow42> tristanbob: Nope, it won't let you resize to a size smaller than the existing data
[07:39] <tristanbob> cool!  does it give an error?
[07:39] <tristanbob> does the slider bar stop moving?
[07:40] <Shadow42> Nope, it just won't let you do it
[07:40] <Shadow42> If you drag the slider, it stops at the limit
[07:40] <tristanbob> so the slider bar slides to the limit, cool that is a good design
[07:40] <Shadow42> If you try to type it in manually, it will only resize to the limit
[07:40] <tristanbob> also good
[07:40] <Shadow42> mm hmm
[07:40] <tristanbob> now it just needs a confirmation screen, or wait to resize until the end
[07:40] <tristanbob> hit next and see if it resizes.... ;)
[07:40] <Shadow42> :)
[07:41] <tristanbob> I think it does
[07:41] <Shadow42> That's a confirmed bug, right?
[07:41] <tristanbob> I confirmed it just this morning
[07:41] <Shadow42> Excellent