[12:16] <mdke> bh
[12:16] <mdke> whoops
[12:18] <Burgwork> mdke: we ran into major time issues
[12:19] <mdke> yeah
[12:19] <Burgwork> mostly on the part of Jono and Mako, who are very busy people
[12:19] <Burgwork> and yes, the book could use some a reorg
[12:19] <david_corrales> for v2
[12:19] <mdke> but I think also some basic errors
[12:20] <mdke> like chapter 7 is totally out of place with the rest of the book
[12:20] <Burgwork> 7 is the tips one?
[12:20] <mdke> yeah
[12:20] <mdke> it's pretty damn good though, considering
[12:20] <Burgwork> the tips chapter was welded on after the fact
[12:20] <mdke> sorry, it's chapter 6, actually
[12:20] <Burgwork> I would rather have had the tips as "community tips" throughout the book
[12:21] <mdke> yeah. That would have avoided the presence of advanced tips where the book doesn't cover the basics
[12:21] <mdke> plenty of good stuff though. I hadn't seen appendix D before (windows equivalent programs)
[12:22] <Burgwork> that was all me, dammit
[12:23] <mdke> nice work
[12:31] <Burgwork> I try
[12:31] <Burgwork> right now I want to kill things, because I just lost, via a browser crash, our entire marketing plan for the next year, written in the last hour or so
[12:32] <Burgwork> s/our/Userfuls/
[12:39] <mdke> that's a shitter
[12:40] <mdke> always work offline
[12:42] <Burgwork> yep
[07:41] <J-_> Hey, is there any way I can take part in the documentation part of Ubuntu? Whether it be proof reading, or writing about selected parts of documentation refering to Ubuntu, or Linux for that matter?
[07:46] <crimsun> J-_: http://www.mdke.org/?p=67
[07:50] <david_corrales> good post
[08:50] <J-_> crimsun: Sorry, didn't realize you replied. Thanks.
[08:50] <crimsun> np
[05:45] <mdke> bdmurray: you should have got your svn access now
[05:47] <mdke> ah, you're in, good
[05:57] <bdmurray> mdke: yeah, I've submitted a couple of changes to make sure everything is working
[05:57] <mdke> great
[05:57] <bdmurray> Is there a mailing list for svn commit notifications?
[05:57] <mdke> yes. ubuntu-doc-commits
[05:58] <mdke> are you sure about tar cfvz?
[05:58] <bdmurray> nope
[05:58] <bdmurray> it'd be xfvz
[05:58] <bdmurray> thanks
[05:59] <mdke> splendid, welcome on board
[05:59] <bdmurray> Thanks.
[06:02] <bdmurray> When was doc.ubuntu.com last updated? I thought there was a mail to the mailing list saying it was 12 hours.  Is that right?
[06:02] <mdke> well, it was yeah. but nowadays it's totally broken because of the changes we've made to the repository structure
[06:02] <bdmurray> er a maximum of 12 hours
[06:02] <mdke> so it doesn't update any more
[06:03] <mdke> we need to fix that :(
[06:25] <nixternal> mdke: have you taken a look at how to go about adding the tbh to the makefile?
[06:26] <nixternal> i have been playing around and can get most of the kubuntu stuff to build, but i have a ton of tbh (well 1 for each directory) calls in the makefile itself
[06:26] <mdke> not yet
[06:26] <nixternal> i need to go through and validate all of the k/C stuff and start looking at structure
[06:27] <nixternal> i lost my coffee cup
[06:27] <nixternal> found it :)
[06:28] <mdke> lets hang on until the structure is totally sorted then clear up the makefile
[06:34] <nixternal> khelpcenter in kubuntu is garbage
[06:36] <nixternal> heh, tbh would be so much easier if we could run it on a small standalone apache server
[06:36] <nixternal> do like ms and apple does when you click help, it fires up a small webserver in which everything runs on
[06:39] <mdke> nixternal: erm, why would you need a server?
[06:39] <mdke> you don't need a server to view local html files with a browser
[06:39] <mdke> that's exactly what khelpcenter is anyway, a browser which views html files
[06:40] <mdke> I can't imagine that ms and apple run a webserver for help
[06:40] <nixternal> ya, but khelpcenter is garbage
[06:40] <mdke> what's wrong with it?
[06:40] <nixternal> search is broken, only in kubuntu for one
[06:41] <nixternal> it is supposedly modular when all you can do is add .desktop files, which really isn't modular if you ask me
[06:41] <nixternal> the code is nasty
[06:41] <mdke> I don't know what you mean by "modular"
[06:41] <nixternal> i prefer yelp over khelpcenter truthfully
[06:41] <mdke> yelp is great
[06:41] <david_corrales> I'm thinking about integrating my gnome docs with khelpcenter hmm
[06:42] <nixternal> modular meaning i can add and remove functions, but all i can really add and remove is main links being created from .desktop files
[06:42] <mdke> functions?
[06:42] <nixternal> khelpcenter will hopefully go away and be replaced with a tbh system in KDE
[06:42] <david_corrales> they should integrate all damn help systems
[06:42] <david_corrales> /usr/share/help
[06:42] <david_corrales> and that's it
[06:42] <mdke> quite
[06:43] <nixternal> good luck on that one, but i totally agree
[06:43] <nixternal> /help
[06:43] <nixternal> heh
[06:44] <david_corrales> :(
[06:44] <david_corrales> it's a PITA
[06:44] <david_corrales> just finished doing gnome work... now learn about kde -_-
[06:45] <mdke> I believe the Gnome guys have been speccing something up to show to kde, no idea if it was used though
[06:45] <mdke> nixternal: you should put in a word with the kde doc people about it
[06:45] <nixternal> do you have any links or other info on it?
[06:45] <nixternal> i have the kde doc people's ears as we speak
[06:46] <mdke> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-doc-devel-list/2006-October/msg00001.html
[06:46] <nixternal> since i am waiting for my kde svn account, i can bug them with something else :)
[07:03] <nixternal> i didn't know shaun lived not far from me
[07:26] <ryanakca> nixternal: ping about doc-linux-html
[07:26] <nixternal> wth is that?
[07:26] <nixternal> ;p
[07:27] <nixternal> gimme sumpin' new todo :), the kde wiki is killing me right now
[07:27] <ryanakca> lol
[07:28] <nixternal> it made me realise how much of a pita mediawiki is over moinmoin
[07:28] <ryanakca> remember me asking to fix the HOWTO bugs a couple of weeks ago?
[07:28] <nixternal> oh ya
[07:29] <nixternal> im telling you what, kerry beagle is the bomb! to bad it slows down kontact/kmail like crazy, but i can live with it
[07:29] <nixternal> ryanakca: so what is the problem?
[07:30] <ryanakca> just a sec, I'll forward you the messages I sent to the debian mailing list in charge of it.... it seems to be dormant :)... might just be that I'm impatient :D
[07:30] <ryanakca> kerry beagle?
[07:31] <nixternal> the search tool
[07:35] <ryanakca> ah
[07:35] <ryanakca> Sent... KMail probably decided to be a pain and encrypt it to you...
[07:35] <nixternal> heh, and you encrypted it ;)
[07:36] <ryanakca> I encrypted it?
[07:36] <ryanakca> to me or you?
[07:38] <nixternal> you encrypted it to me :) i opened it though, pinentry-qt actually works now :)
[07:38] <ryanakca> lol, good :D
[07:40] <nixternal> that is a linux documentation project package
[07:40] <nixternal> hmm
[07:42] <ryanakca> (there were two emails)
[07:42] <nixternal> ya, for some reason i swore you wrote them to debian, but after reading it and waking up i see now
[07:42] <nixternal> imm dl'n the package
[07:43] <ryanakca> I did write them to debian
[07:43] <ryanakca> seeing that we just auto-sync them...
[07:44] <nixternal> heh, ok where in the hell did the package go :)
[07:44] <ryanakca> dunno..
[07:45] <nixternal> how do you access this documentation?
[07:45] <ryanakca> brb in 2 sec
[07:45] <ryanakca> sudo apt-get install doc-linux-html
[07:45] <nixternal> i installed it
[07:45] <nixternal> just thought it would come with a link to view it
[07:45] <ryanakca> then fire up konqueror, firefox, lynx, opera, whatever, /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/
[07:45] <nixternal> that's messy
[07:45] <ryanakca> very
[07:45] <nixternal> we need to create a .desktop for it
[07:46] <ryanakca> which is why I'm organizing it... sure, I could try to do that... unless you want to :D
[07:46] <ryanakca> how would we make it open up the default browser to view it in the .desktop though?
[07:47] <nixternal> this is what i would do, i would create a patch that would create an index.html file that would have a heading and link to each howto, and then create a .desktop file to create a menu spot for it
[07:48] <nixternal> as it stands, this has some good documentation to bring locally, but someone who is just trying out Ubuntu for the first time would drive themselves crazy trying to figure out what they just did
[07:50] <nixternal> ahahaha, it has my quake howto in there :)
[07:53] <nixternal> or you know what would even work, have it add the .desktop file to /usr/share/apps/khelpcenter/plugins and then it could be read there
[08:00] <ryanakca> back
[08:00] <ryanakca> there's already a index.html
[08:01] <ryanakca> kk
[08:01] <nixternal> where is it?
[08:01] <mdke> aren't you discussing non-ui documentation?
[08:01] <ryanakca>  /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/index.html
[08:02] <mdke> what's all this about .desktop and khelpcenter then?
[08:02] <ryanakca> mdke: depends on the HOWTO involved
[08:02] <ryanakca> it's all HTML HOWTOs... if you want plain text, install doc-linux ...
[08:02] <ryanakca> (I think)
[08:03] <mdke> right, so .desktop files and khelpcenter don't come into it
[08:03] <nixternal> well, i think there should be a .desktop file to at least create a shortcut in a menu to it, otherwise noobs won't know what to do
[08:03] <nixternal> well if you wanted it to be autolinked in khelpcenter then it would come into it
[08:04] <mdke> how will people who don't use KDE read it?
[08:04] <ryanakca> nixternal: kk, but how would I make the .desktop file use the default browser
[08:04] <ryanakca> mdke: they will use the menu icon/link?
[08:04] <nixternal> well, that is why i think a menu shortcut would be best and have it open with the default browser
[08:04] <ryanakca> mdke: and then if they aren't using a graphical interface, they're most likely smart enough to locate it...
[08:05] <ryanakca> or at least read the README.Debian....
[08:05] <nixternal> hiya jjesse!
[08:05] <jjesse> hiya nixternal
[08:05] <mdke> ryanakca: this isn't documentation to be presented to desktop users in the first place.
[08:06] <mdke> or if it is, you're going to have to think about more than just KDE users
[08:07] <ryanakca> mdke: isn't that where the .desktop for the menu comes in
[08:07] <ryanakca> s//?
[08:08] <mdke> which menu are you talking about?
[08:09] <ryanakca> the standard application menu... KMenu, the Gnome application Menu, XFCE Menu, Debian Menu, etc
[08:09] <mdke> you're talking about adding links in the application menu to a document?
[08:11] <nixternal> a link to /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/%/index.html
[08:11] <ryanakca> yes, so that it opens index.html (wich has links to all the HOWTOs) with the default browser... at least that's what I think nixternal meant
[08:11] <mdke> that's crazy
[08:11] <nixternal> why is that crazy?
[08:12] <mdke> you're talking about establishing two help systems for each desktop?
[08:12] <nixternal> so if someone installs the application, they have to search for it then?
[08:12] <nixternal> no no
[08:12] <mdke> well, you are
[08:13] <nixternal> doc-linux-html is a tutorials package from tldp, it installs to a directory and that is about it, there is no further information..it is far from another help system
[08:13] <mdke> people installing it know where to find it
[08:13] <nixternal> i installed it and had no idea where it went
[08:14] <mdke> you are an exception
[08:14] <nixternal> heh
[08:14] <nixternal> thanks
[08:14] <mdke> anyway, it should be visible in the help system for the desktop
[08:14] <nixternal> if anything, at least change the information to say where it is installing
[08:14] <mdke> if it isn't, it's a bug in the help system.
[08:15] <nixternal> see, this is where having 1 help system would come in handy
[08:15] <nixternal> kde == /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/%/
[08:16] <nixternal> hell, even firefox/konqi/epiph or whatever would work fine for browsing help, however search would suck, but that is where beagle comes in
[08:16] <nixternal> which i have been testing and messing around with, still has a ways to go
[08:17] <nixternal> OOOH!!! Kerry Beagle searches the <keywordsets> in docbook :)
[08:19] <mdke> just fix khelpcenter...
[08:20] <nixternal> rm -rf khelpcenter
[08:20] <nixternal> fixed
[08:28] <mdke> I need to do some dusting myself
[08:28] <ryanakca> lol
[08:28] <nixternal> haha
[08:28] <nixternal> i can feel the love
[08:29] <ryanakca> lol
[08:29] <nixternal> WHACK!!!
[08:30] <ryanakca> wouldn't you rather borrow a cat of nine tails for that?
[08:30] <nixternal> i have no clue wth that even is
[08:31] <ryanakca> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_o'_nine_tails ... British Navy used to use it...
[08:31] <nixternal> ya, i know what it is now...never knew it as that though
[08:31] <ryanakca> even used to be used in the local Penitentiary (I think that's how you spell it) up till the 50s
[08:32] <nixternal> the good ol' british navy...when we would pull into port, we would get drunk with them and fight like you wouldn't believe
[08:32] <nixternal> most ports actually made it so we couldn't dock at the same time
[08:35] <ryanakca> lol
[08:35] <ryanakca> brb, again
[08:36] <ryanakca> btw, did you get that second email that I forwarded to you?
[08:36] <nixternal> yup
[08:44] <nixternal> mdke: i thought you were buying lunch..back in a few :)
[08:52] <jjesse> stupid coffee shop wireless :(
[08:53] <jjesse> i hate that openoffice doesn't have simple things like ubuntu or kubuntu in its dictionary :(
[08:57] <ryanakca> write a patch?
[09:00] <mdke> there is an ubuntu.dic, I believe
[09:01] <jjesse> shouldn't that be installed by default?
[09:02] <mdke> I think it is installed by default
[09:04] <jjesse> ah usr/lib/openoffice/share/wordbook/ed-US
[09:04] <nixternal> heh, KOffice doesn't have them either
[09:05] <jjesse> didn't have it chosen
[09:05] <jjesse> there should be soemthing so konqi knows how to spell ubuntu as well :)
[09:06] <nixternal> and firefox
[09:06] <nixternal> what would really be nice is do like Microsoft does and have 1 dictionary for everything
[09:07] <ryanakca> nixternal: how should I make the patches? 1 per HOWTO, or 1 for all of them? I think 1 per HOWTO might be better...
[09:08] <ryanakca> easier to maintain down the road...
[09:09] <nixternal> what are you doing to the howto?
[09:09] <ryanakca> organising it
[09:09] <nixternal> hrmm
[09:09] <ryanakca> there's multiple paged howtos all in the root directory of the HOWTO thingy...
[09:10] <nixternal> ahhh, i see
[09:10] <ryanakca> I've put all of them into 1 directory named after the HOWTO... as described in the forward I sent you...
[09:10] <ryanakca> and the HTML redirect or ln -s?
[09:10] <nixternal> well, 1 patch to do the directory structure would be fine
[09:10] <nixternal> html redirect
[09:10] <jjesse> a little confused what are you two working on?
[09:10] <nixternal> ln -s is garbage for webpages
[09:10] <ryanakca> kk... just wondering about the future if we remove howtos
[09:10] <nixternal> doc-linux-html (linux doc project tutorials package)
[09:10] <ryanakca> jjesse: doc-linux-html
[09:11] <nixternal> it is a mess
[09:11] <ryanakca> all the HOWTOs on tldp
[09:11] <jjesse> is that a new package we will be maintainig/distributing?
[09:11] <nixternal> oh no
[09:11] <nixternal> that is a tldp project that i wouldn't touch with a 10 foot poll
[09:11] <ryanakca> no, it's synced from debian
[09:11] <ryanakca> lol
[09:11] <jjesse> sorry still a little confused, so what are you doing w/ doc-linux-html?
[09:11] <nixternal> cleaning it to fix bugs
[09:12] <ryanakca> jjesse: bugs 76312, 76313, 76315, 76320
[09:12] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 76312 in doc-linux "doc-linux-html includes files that automatically open pages online" [Medium,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/76312
[09:12] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 76313 in doc-linux "Distributions-HOWTO is generally broken" [Medium,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/76313
[09:12] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 76315 in doc-linux "Some -HOWTOs have been removed" [Medium,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/76315
[09:12] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 76320 in doc-linux "doc-linux-html is messy and inconsistent" [Medium,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/76320
[09:12] <nixternal> hahaha
[09:12] <jjesse> oh
[09:12] <ryanakca> and I had the wonderfull idea to volunteer myself to fix them :D
[09:12] <jjesse> sorry i thought you were working on how to move them in to topic based help or something and was confused
[09:13] <ryanakca> lol
[09:13] <nixternal> whew, that would stink to merge all of that
[09:13] <ryanakca> nixternal: feel like writing the .desktop for it?
[09:13] <ryanakca> lol
[09:13] <nixternal> just copy it from a nother package
[09:13] <nixternal> and change the words, then get it up so it can be translated
[09:13] <ryanakca> kk... get it up so it can be translated
[09:13] <ryanakca> ?
[09:14] <ryanakca> it would be oh so much easier to maintain
[09:14] <nixternal> ya, the .desktop file will need translating for one as well as the changes you made
[09:15] <ryanakca> the changes I made need translating... meaning the whole package translated or ?
[09:15] <nixternal> as soon as the new version (the one you create) gets uploaded, it is automatically stuck in rosetta
[09:15] <ryanakca> ah... no clue how to set that up
[09:15] <nixternal> you get some translation karma too for that...i think that is where my translation karma comes from is my packages
[09:16] <ryanakca> ah... I translated some things into french... which explains mine :D
[09:16] <nixternal> heh
[09:16] <ryanakca> best way to get karma is threw the support requests... some of them are really simple too... "How do I mount a floppy"..
[09:16] <nixternal> i do support stuff all fo the time, i have never gotten any karma points from it
[09:17] <nixternal> mine is all bugs and specs
[09:18] <ryanakca> https://launchpad.net/people/ryanakca/+karma      Support tracker... 119409... and I answered 2-3 support requests
[09:18] <nixternal> https://answers.launchpad.net/people/nixternal/+tickets
[09:18] <nixternal> and i have 0 support karma
[09:19] <jjesse> i've never really understood karma
[09:19] <nixternal> heh me either
[09:19] <ryanakca> lol
[09:20] <nixternal> jjesse: just so you know, when i create a new_whatever.xml that is the one im working on and it will replace the whatever.xml. trying to avoid some confusion
[09:20] <jjesse> ok that's cool
[09:20] <jjesse> i haven't had a chance to dig much into things :(
[09:20] <ryanakca> anywais... I should start working on doc-linux...
[09:20] <nixternal> i have to really figure out how to bring everything together just yet
[09:21] <nixternal> if you are good with the openoffice stuff, the office portion needs loving
[09:21] <nixternal> the games section is pretty much complete, just needing review
[09:22] <nixternal> hehe yes
[09:22] <ryanakca> phew...
[09:22] <nixternal> unless ryanakca you want to do some topic based help loving to office docs for kubuntu :)
[09:22] <nixternal> actually, the office.xml will work with gnome & kde
[09:22] <nixternal> as well as the games.xml
[09:23] <jjesse> nixternal: cool
[09:23] <ryanakca> erm... not now... thanks anywais... really appreciate your trying to give me more work though... really do :P
[09:23] <nixternal> hehe
[09:25] <nixternal> heh, my dog just ate a habanero dorito
[09:25] <nixternal> he liked it at first, i think he won't eat another one ever again
[09:26] <ryanakca> lol
[09:26] <ryanakca> in the HOWTO / HTML... if <BODY> </BODY> is empty, I can remove it?
[09:28] <nixternal> try it and see if it breaks anything, but check the head to see what the linking references are
[09:31] <ryanakca> nixternal: the head... <LINK HREF="Xterm-Title-1.html" REL=next>... this is just the forward page (Xterm-Title.html)... it forwards to Xterm-Title/Xterm-Title.html
[09:32] <ryanakca> doesn't break anything... I'm just wondering if it's "proper"
[09:33] <jjesse> reviewing for the LPIC level 1 is boring :(
[09:33] <nixternal> heh, i hear you jjesse, although i failed it the first time i took it
[09:33] <nixternal> read up on the rpm stuff because there are a few of those questions in there
[09:33] <jjesse> nixternal: was it because you thought you knew enough?
[09:33] <jjesse> nixternal: or was it just hard?
[09:33] <nixternal> no because it was hard
[09:33] <nixternal> lol
[09:34] <nixternal> and i thought i knew enough
[09:34] <jjesse> i'm using the sybex book
[09:34] <nixternal> i was killed by the rpm stuff, backup stuff, and encryption stuff
[09:34] <nixternal> you need a 500 to pass, and the first round i hit a 480 i think, mised it by like 4 or 5 questions
[09:35] <jjesse> doh that sucks
[09:35] <ryanakca> rpm... I haven't used it in almost a year...
[09:35] <jjesse> i already took my comptia linux+ 2 years ago
[09:35] <nixternal> ya i did the linux+ about the same time
[09:36] <jjesse> i have my A+, Network+, Linux+, MCP, MCSA (Windows 2000), AAC, ACE, ITIL-F
[09:36] <nixternal> heh, all of my certs are cisco, microsoft, and sun really, with the basic CompTIA certs (a+, net+, linux+), and then a handful of manufacturer certs
[09:36] <jjesse> i think that's it
[09:36] <nixternal> oooh, ACE ey?
[09:36] <nixternal> that is nice
[09:36] <jjesse> Altiris Certified Engineer
[09:36] <jjesse> along w/ my Altiris Certified Consultant
[09:36] <jjesse> AAC
[09:37] <jjesse> for work
[09:37] <jjesse> i'll add vista certification as soon as it comes out
[09:37] <jjesse> january i think
[09:37] <bdmurray> wow, that's a lot.  speaking of abbreviations . . . I noticed some variation in the abbreviation for MP3 in the documenation
[09:37] <nixternal> ewww
[09:38] <nixternal> MP3, mp3?
[09:38] <bdmurray> yeah with more of MP3 than mp3
[09:38] <nixternal> it should be MP3
[09:38] <nixternal> MPEG-3
[09:38] <nixternal> the file extension would be .mp3
[09:40] <nixternal> my dog went for another dorito, overshot the landing and took a chip to the eye. he pretty much got a doggy dose of pepper spray from a damn dorito
[09:41] <ryanakca> do we need the XFree86 HOWTOs? seeing that ubuntu uses Xorg?
[09:41] <ryanakca> lol
[09:42] <nixternal> i would leave everything in the package, truthfully that is a useless package after going through most of it
[09:42] <nixternal> there are things in there that nobody will ever have to do again, unless they are using a slackware box
[09:43] <ryanakca> meh... I have nothing else to do... and I get volunteer hours for it
[09:43] <nixternal> hehe, enjoy and hack at it then :))
[09:43] <nixternal> kde wiki migration all day as well in #kde-www if you really want to have fun (i would recommend you pull your hair out first)
[09:44] <ryanakca> lol
[09:45] <ryanakca> I feel sorry for the poor soul who gets to do the merges from now on :D
[09:46] <ryanakca> hehehe... XFree86-XInside is v1.3, September 1997
[09:47] <nixternal> i quit with the merges, nobody ever pays attention to the bug requests even after pings and what not..well i shouldn't say nobody, because i know of one person who does look out for me quite a bit
[09:47] <ryanakca> I was in kindergarten when they wrote that HOWTO...
[09:47] <nixternal> rofl
[09:47] <nixternal> i was enjoying my last couple of months of active duty navy on the ship
[09:49] <bdmurray> nixternal: what did you do in the navy?
[09:49] <nixternal> gunner's mate
[09:49] <nixternal> mark 45, 5"/54 gun mount captain
[09:50] <nixternal> and EOD
[09:50] <ryanakca> lol
[09:50] <ryanakca> Do people still write HOWTOs even? Do people still read them?
[09:51] <ryanakca> crud... KArm wasn't timing me...
[09:52] <nixternal> ooh, i just learned about that application, i wanted to play iwth it some more
[09:53] <bdmurray> nixternal: Where did you go to basic training?
[09:53] <ryanakca> yeah... Riddel said to time all the stuff I do and then to email him the log so that it would count for Volunteer Hours for High School (we need 40 hours in ontario to get our diploma...)
[09:53] <nixternal> great mistakes, right up the street from where i live :)
[09:54] <nixternal> ryanakca: sweet!
[09:54] <ryanakca> yeah
[09:54] <mdke> oh you can do that?
[09:55] <mdke> I had written to Jane to ask about that, never got an answer
[09:56] <ryanakca> do what?
[09:56] <ryanakca> get it to count for volunteer hours?
[09:56] <mdke> yeah
[09:57] <ryanakca> yeah... depends on the school's definition on "volunteer work" though...
[09:57] <mdke> this was about translation
[10:01] <ryanakca> translation would go threw with my school... anything that's for benifit of someone, that isn't during school hours, that you aren't paid for, and that isn't for family is pretty much our definition
[10:01] <ryanakca> translation into what language?
[10:03] <ryanakca> heh, WordPerfect used to run on linux...
[11:07] <mdke> bdmurray: wow, you're rocking away there
[11:07] <mdke> nice!
[11:07] <nixternal> ya slow down, making me look bad
[11:08] <nixternal> oh wait, i make myself look bad :)
[11:08] <nixternal> thanks
[11:08] <mdke> shit I still haven't cleaned the flat
[11:09] <nixternal> heh