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imbecilecntb, yeah imma give it 20 just to be safe12:00
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stefgimbecile: gParted isn't perfect in deali9ng with NTFS12:00
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aoirthoiraha12:01
imbecilestefg, yeah i heard that in a few forums12:01
BoglizkWhy wont mplayer and mozilla-mplayer show up in apt-get? They do on Ubuntus packagelist ....12:01
cntbimbecile: also to be useful12:01
EuphidimeHey everyone, I'm trying to fix the MBR (remove GRUB) on a Windows partition from the Ubuntu Live CD, as I don't have my Windows XP CD to use the Recovery Console. Is this possible?12:01
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Arrick_Idlehey gaten Cannot open yoru terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check12:01
mnoiraoirthoir: i am not sure i gave you correct advice12:01
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aoirthoirOK back..I put this in .bashrc export EDITOR=/usr/bin/gphpedit12:01
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gatenArrick_Idle:  hmm, never seen that one. try running it as root12:01
BoglizkEuphidime: I think you can use some kind of floppy12:01
imbecilecntb, yeah i know.. if it were 10 i'd be full in like 2 days hehe12:01
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EuphidimeBoglizk: I don't have a Floppy drive12:02
imbecileok you guys imma try this12:02
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aoirthoirmnoir np I dont mind experimenting..I gave the export a try and it didnt work ...still using gedit12:02
mnoiraoirthoir: that only works for things that look at EDITOR12:02
aoirthoirah12:02
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KiraHello12:02
imbecilestefg: cntb: thanks for your help12:02
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mnoiraoirthoir: how are you calling up the edit?\12:02
BoglizkEuphidime: Well you could edit the GRUB and make it boot Windows immedietly..12:02
Boglizk:p12:02
EuphidimeThat would do fine12:02
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aoirthoirmnoir just double clicking in nautilus12:03
kcinnadamn. cdrecord didn't work either12:03
kcinnasome problem as always12:03
stefgimbecile: btw, did I mention to do a backup first :-)12:03
mnoiraoirthoir: if in nautilus, then you should be able to set the default easily, sec12:03
KiraIs there a mail client that can output e-mail message sources to stdout? Or can somebody suggest away of achieving the same thing? I need one to pipe e-mail messages to a mail parser program.12:03
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EuphidimeIt's just that I get an "Error 17" whenever I try to boot from the hard disk, so anything that'll get me back on my Windows installation would work.12:03
kcinnathis image plays fine in a directory but won't burn to a disc12:03
kcinnaperhaps my drive is broken?12:03
aoirthoirnp willin to wait..thanks for the help12:03
Arrick_Idlegaten, that drops me to root12:04
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aoirthoiraha I found it12:04
BoglizkEuphidime: Do you have Linux left or did you remove it?12:04
BoglizkBecouse the Ubuntu CD has a fix mbr thingy12:04
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EuphidimeRemoved it because I needed space on this box :p12:04
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aoirthoirright click..click properties...ok maybe i found it12:04
EuphidimeI'm on the UBuntu CD right now12:04
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gateneverytime i do anything to my windows partitions on sda (ls, df etc), my system wont stop reading to part. sudo kill -9 won't kill the process in queston, nor will umount -f work. any ideas12:05
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cody_Anyone here able to help me to get Eclipse up and running?12:05
gatenArrick_Idle:  it will start a new bash shell. then do what i told you to make new "windows12:05
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stefggaten, what filesystem? ntfs?12:06
mnoiraoirthoir: it is mimetypes i think - i am still looking12:06
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aoirthoirmnoir I got it12:06
aoirthoirbut it wont work with .sql files12:06
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gephaltHi, i've been talking on windows for a while and trying to figure out how i could set up a DHCP server / ftp etc on a dual boot box. Network consists of 35 PCs all connected via a switch. There's no internet connection. What I need to know is how to configure my ubuntu OS to work as a DHCP server.12:06
gatenstefg:  yes12:06
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aoirthoiryou right click on the file, choose properties then choose open with tab..then add your program to that...12:07
aoirthoirand finally select it12:07
robtharrisony1: ok, ive figured out a bit more, it appears that the keys i want to use are mapped by something else already12:07
gephaltOn that note, would it be possible to run a software router on the same machine?12:07
mnoirbut that is only for that file i think12:07
LameBMXstefg, managed to get it installed .. fake raid dorcks12:07
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robtharrisony1: F10 for example is file menu12:07
LameBMX:)12:07
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aoirthoirits working with all the php files12:07
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robtrobt: if i select F12 for example for initiate window picker, it works fine12:07
mnoiraoirthoir: there has to be a place to set the default - there is in kde12:07
stefgLameBMX: good to hear12:07
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exswhat is NAT networking under  vmware about?12:07
harrisony1ahhh with beryl use the super key (windows key) and stuff12:08
mnoirok - i guess ya got it12:08
stefg!ntfs | gaten12:08
ubotugaten: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse12:08
robtharrisony1: so now i need to find out what is mapping those keys and how to stop it from grabbing them exclusively12:08
mnoir:)12:08
cody_Eclipse anyone? I am getting errors while I am trying to run it12:08
aoirthoirthanks:)12:08
aoirthoirbut it isnt workingwith the SQL files12:08
stefg!fuse | gaten12:08
ubotugaten: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse12:08
mnoirglad to be of service12:08
aoirthoirsince it wants to run them as a program12:08
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harrisony1exs, in each virtual machine12:08
mnoir:(12:08
LameBMXyea .. best way to learn is to keep tryin12:08
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gatenstefg:  ill look at those, but im not writing, only reading.12:08
EuphidimeBoglizk: Any idea what the command is? :p12:09
lukus001Hi, can someone tell me how I can make a certain app run on a specific local port?12:09
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gephaltHello- i need to know its possible to use a linux Box as a DHCP server in a dominantly windows network- by network, its just all the PCs connected via a switch12:09
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LameBMXhttp://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotws9.png12:09
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mnoirgephalt: yes it is12:09
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chrisjwhi again, does ubuntu make any restrictions against RAW IP other than needing to be root?12:10
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gephaltmnoir: can i possible run a router on the same box?12:10
stefggaten, the kernel ntfs-support is somewhat.... errr.... better get ntfs3g, works for me without problems for some time now (r/w). only make sure the ntfs-compression is turned off12:10
chrisjwim trying to create my own tcp packet but having problems with sendto12:10
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BoglizkEuphidime: Command to do what?12:10
exsharrisony1:  "What will be the netmask of your private network?" vmware is asking me. P.s. I'm going to install xp, and I want to be able to use online applications in windows xp.12:10
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EuphidimeFix the MBR from the Ubuntu CD :x12:10
BoglizkOhh12:11
mnoirgephalt: define router12:11
BoglizkEuphidime: Hold on a sec12:11
gatenstefg:  i tried that, and that's when the problems started. perhaps i didnt turn off compression12:11
EuphidimeOk, thanks12:11
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aoirthoirok its mostly solved....its still trying to open the SQL files as a program but I added gphpedit to the list now if I right click i can choose it as the first option12:12
aoirthoirthansk again yall!12:12
aoirthoirUBUNTU ROCKS12:12
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finn__did that last line of mine come through? had a reconnect12:12
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stefggaten: ah... i see, maybe you should run a filesystem check from windows (chkdsk()12:12
harrisony1exs, choose NAT and keep going yes or no12:12
chrisjwanyone?"?12:12
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chrisjw does ubuntu make any restrictions against RAW IP other than needing to be root?12:12
harrisony1exs,  imageshack.us a screenie12:12
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c1rugood night12:13
harrisony1chrisjw, sudoers list???12:13
exsharrisony1:  "The answer "windowz" is invalid.  It must be of the form a.b.c.d where a, b, c ...and d are decimal numbers between 0 and 255."12:13
chrisjwwhat?12:13
gephaltmnoir: software router- on the ubuntu box- connected via the switch. or did I just went over my head this time ? ;)12:13
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chrisjwwhat is sudi ers list12:13
chrisjwsudo ers list*12:13
c1rui`m user of ubuntu64, and i want to know if i can install too ubuntu3212:13
mnoirchrisjw: what does "against RAW Ip " actually mean?12:13
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gatenstefg:  well, windows is shot and vista is the next thing im installing. so right now i just want to back the stuff up. do you know of a chkdsk from linux? i can always boot to a windows CD, but id rather do it from here12:13
chrisjwwell windows sp2 restricts you from sending a tcp packet using raw ip12:13
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chrisjwdoes ubuntu do the same?12:13
mnoirgephalt: not sure - but you might want to look at something like IPCop on a cheap old small pc12:13
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Euphidimechrisjw: Sudoers list is a list of user accounts that have permission to use sudo with their password12:14
mnoirchrisjw: what is raw ip?12:14
harrisony1exs, take a screenie and put on imageshack.us or some were else12:14
chrisjwbuilding the IP packet yourself12:14
stefggaten: no way for linux to check a ntfs for consistency.... take winXP install cd and run chkdsk from the rescue console12:14
gatenchrisjw:  no restrictions that im aware of. u could use netcat and find out12:14
chrisjwthen binding it to a socket then sending12:14
exsharrisony1:  I'm not sure it would help.. I'm using the terminal for this12:14
gatenstefg:  alright, thanks12:14
harrisony1oh12:14
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mnoirchrisjw: no problem - what firewalling are you using?12:15
harrisony1lol welll you using player or workstation or server12:15
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chrisjwno firewall other than my external router12:15
chrisjwruns network address translation12:15
mnoirchrisjw: ubuntu won't keep you from writing all the comm code you want12:15
darius_gephalt: may want to look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuWirelessRouter12:15
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marlhi can someone tell me if ubuntu can be made to run on a AMD Geode LX800 embeded board?12:16
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LjLUbotu, tell nergar about away | nergar, see the private message from Ubotu12:17
marlor can someone tell me what the last version of ubuntu was that used the 2.4 kernel?12:17
harrisony1marl, i dont see what not12:17
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marli just get it 6 hanging on the LX :(12:17
daishadardoes anyone know if WPA works out of the box with ubuntu 6.10?12:17
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c1rui`m user of ubuntu64, and i want to know if i can install too ubuntu32, anyone know any guide?12:18
marlit almost apearst o be a problem witht he 2.6 kernel12:18
rpereiradaishadar: So so... network-manager is a package that correct WPA support.12:18
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marlso any pointers on the last ubuntu realse that used 2.4 kernel?12:19
daishadarrpereira, so i need to apt get network manager? going to have to lug this to an ethernet port to do that...12:19
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SebbohMy ubuntu desktop doesn't seem to have an /etc/init.d/inetd script...  What?  I just need to run swat.  How get it to listen on port 901?12:19
borgexcuse me, i just downloaded the opera ubuntu deb package from the opera site, but now i have this dilema seeing as i have ALSA as my sound server how do i tell Opera to use ALSA? cause i have no sound coming out for my flash movies12:19
lynucshmm maybe you could tell opera to use esd12:20
borgbut how?12:20
lynucswith esddsp opera12:20
rpereiradaishadar: Yes. sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome   .12:20
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borgin firefox i installed the ALSA-OSS package and told the firefoxrc thing to use aoss as the server and it works there12:20
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borgbut i cant find such an option in opera:config12:21
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borgso um12:21
borgesddsp opera, right?12:21
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gansinhohello, does anybody knows an app that works with the new blogger?12:22
yodoc_Which new blogger?12:22
borgactually hey i think "aoss opera" works12:23
borgw00t ok12:23
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yodoc_Anyone know how to make Thunderbird send mail using an AOL imap account?12:23
gansinhoyodoc_, the one that you need to have a google account, it is different from the previous... the current repos apps does not connect to ir...12:23
gansinhoit*12:23
gansinhoIt was blogger beta until a few weeks...12:24
EuphidimeBoglizk: I found a tutorial on how to do it, but what they're telling me to do doesn't work. It says to type grub-install /dev/hda1, but when I do that, grub-install says "/dev/hda1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive." I already made sure it's mounted, it is.12:24
yodoc_Hmmm, can't help you there.  New to linux here, and I don't blog much12:24
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pengulordwheres the best place to get a cheap notebook12:25
yodoc_This is my first time on IRC12:25
pengulordcongrats12:25
pengulordand welcome12:25
aoirthoirhey...12:25
yodoc_Cheap notebooks usually available at computer shows12:25
aoirthoirdoes anyone in here like ubuntu?12:25
gansinhoyodoc_, thanks anyway... you need some help? just in thunderbird?12:25
n2diypengulord: take a look at the Nokia 77012:25
aoirthoirnoooooooo get a pepper pad..they rock12:25
aoirthoirbigger screen. hard drive... faster and just about the same price or even cheaper12:26
EuphidimeDoes anyone know how to help me with my problem? <_> When I try to boot GRUB it gives me an "Error 17"12:26
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yodoc_Yes, trying to get T-bird to send mail on my AOL account, I have settings just the way everyone says they're supposed to be, but no mail goes out.12:26
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maltdoes anyone know a example of sending a email with postfix?12:26
WolfgangIs there a way to run Steam on Ubuntu?12:26
eitanhey guys, I have a problem that started today...for some reason when I play music with my headphone in the jack, sound comes from my internal speakers + headphones12:26
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eitanits working in winxp12:27
Aggrav8dhello, *12:27
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gansinhoyodoc_, did you tried any other mail client? if you're using gnome you could try evolution, it's a great app... I dunno what you maybe is missconfiguring, but sometimes changing the app just works12:27
WolfgangThe program that runs half-life by valve.12:27
yodoc_I'm having the exact same problem on Evo12:27
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Euphidime /dev/hda1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. :/12:27
kitche!away|rlp12:27
uboturlp: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines12:27
jbroomerlp: disable that script for this chan please12:27
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borg!aoss12:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aoss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:28
pengulordwill ubuntu run on that12:28
stefgeitan: that seems more of a hardware-problem... the little switch insde the headphone jack probalbly broke12:28
SebbohWhen I connect to swat, it prompts me for user/pass.  My machine doesn't have a root password.  Now what?12:28
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eitanstefg: it works in winxp, I'm running a dual boot12:28
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yodoc_How do I quit the chat when I'm done?  (New IRC user here)12:28
Aggrav8di want to add multiple users to my server so that they can each access their samba share and not muck with each other.  how do i do this?  I tried googling but only found samba install docs.12:28
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stefgeitan: ok... then no hw-problem....12:28
kitcheyodoc_: if your using xchat just go to the xchat menu then quit12:28
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fild0or /quit12:29
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fild0or /part12:29
Aggrav8der, so that they can access their own samba share and not touch another person's samba share. </clarify>12:29
gansinhoyodoc_, I never set up an imap account12:29
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gansinhoyodoc_, just right click in the #ubuntu and select close tab12:29
fild0Aggrav8d; u setup credentials12:29
SebbohAggrav8d, use swat, the samba web administration tool.  BUT, good luck getting swat to work in the first place.  See my question above.. =)12:29
gansinhoyodoc_, I can help you out, if you be a bit patiente12:29
eitanstefg: i was playing around with sony_acpi modules today..the headphone jack worked yesterday12:30
jbroomepengulord: ebay or your local craigslist is good for used lappys12:30
gansinhoyodoc_, my english is not very good12:30
fild0just setup manually :) smb.conf12:30
fild0its seriously isnt that hard12:30
yodoc_Tnx gansinho12:30
Aggrav8dsebboh - well i set up the first samba share, that wasn't too bad (should have written down how i did it) but multiple users is virgin territory for me.12:30
gansinhoyodoc_, gimme some time to search for info to give you the guideline12:30
yodoc_gansinho your English seems fine to me12:31
slacker_nlhello to all :)12:31
yodoc_I'm an American -- I don't speak English!12:31
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gansinhoyodoc_, I misspell every time... =/12:31
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yodoc_Your spelling is OK12:31
slacker_nlgansinho: every time seems to be spelled correctly ;)12:31
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flyinghippoHello.  Everytime I try entering the lowercase "d" character into Terminal, nothing happens.  This is a major problem, since it prevents me from entering commands.  Does anyone know of a solution to this?12:31
ocrdoes there exist a v 6.xx LTS Server network install image?12:31
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yodoc_"misspell" was spelled correctly!12:32
gansinhoslacker_nl, =p thanks12:32
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ocr450M is abit much to download on the link I currently use12:32
n2diyslacker_nl: unless he meant every thing? :)12:32
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flyinghippoIf it helps, this occured right after I installed WINE.  It usually happens after  install something.12:32
slacker_nln2diy: yeah12:32
yodoc_flyinghippo does your keyboard need cleaning?12:32
flyinghippo*after I12:32
slacker_nlbut he spelled every time correct12:32
flyinghippoNo.12:32
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eitanhey guys, I have a problem that started today...for some reason when I play music with my headphone in the jack, sound comes from my internal speakers + headphones12:32
yodoc_n2diy are you a ham?12:32
magicfingerhello12:32
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jbroome!ot12:32
n2diyyodoc_: yep12:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:32
flyinghippoBecause this only happends with the Terminal, and the lowercase "d" character, yodoc_.12:32
magicfingercan anyone help please12:32
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LjL!offtopic12:32
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:32
yodoc_---> K3LT here12:33
gansinhoyodoc_, first, do you know the forum? You will have loads of info there, most of the times you'll find someone with a problem pretty similar to yours... or even better, a how to12:33
n2diyyodoc_: FB OM, where in 3 land?12:33
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magicfingerdoes anyone know if its possible to install ubuntu on an usb hard rive please12:33
yodoc_I have sent many messages about this on ubuntuforums, and nobody seems able to give me the help I need to get it working right.12:33
LjLmagicfinger: yes, it is.12:33
magicfingerthank you12:34
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flyinghippoMake sure it's at least 3GB, Magicfinger.12:34
ocrdoes anyone know if there exists a v6.xx LTS Server network install image? the 450M iso is a tad big to download on the 512Kbit connection I have..12:34
slacker_nlyodoc_: what's your problem?12:34
n2diyyodoc_: FB OM, where in 3 land?12:34
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slacker_nlyodoc_: as in, your problem with ubuntu :)12:34
magicfingeri just tried with windows xp but did not let me12:34
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yodoc_Problem is I can't send E-mail using Thunderbird on my AOL account.  Receives OK, won't send mail out.12:34
flyinghippoHas anyone ever had a certain character unable to be entered in Terminal?  The lowercase "d" wil not enter in Terminal after I install a program/12:35
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magicfingeris ubuntu any good12:35
daedrazomg 920 people in here!12:35
slacker_nlyodoc_: what are the settings for aol.com?12:35
yodoc_I've only used the terminal twice, can't recall any problems with letter "d"12:35
ocrflyinghippo: does your keyboard work?12:35
flyinghippoMagicfinger: Yes.12:35
ocrmagicfinger: try it.12:35
LjLmagicfinger: do you see the name of this channel?12:35
flyinghippoOcr: Yes.  This only happens ni Terminal when I attempt to enter the lowercase "d" key.12:35
flyinghippoAnything else that uses the D key works in terminal.12:35
yodoc_Settings are imap.aol.com for outbound, smtp.aol.com for inbound12:36
ocrflyinghippo: thats weird, US-EN keyboard?12:36
flyinghippoOcr: Yes.12:36
flyinghippoIt randomly occured after I installed WINE.12:36
gansinhoyodoc_, ok, let's start from scratch, I'll use evolution because I know it better... open it12:36
slacker_nlyodoc_: i think it should be the other way around12:36
flyinghippoIt usually happens when I install stuff.12:36
slacker_nlimap for inbound, smtp for outbound12:36
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ocrflyinghippo: usb or psaux?12:36
yodoc_I have the servers correct, they've been checked repeatedly12:36
magicfingerwill all my software still work with ubuntu12:36
flyinghippoOcr: It's uh... built into my laptop.12:36
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slacker_nlyodoc_: that seems more logical to me12:36
flyinghippoOcr: It used to work all the time.12:36
slacker_nlyodoc_: ok..12:37
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flyinghippoIs there an alternative terminal program for Ubuntu?12:37
slacker_nlyodoc_: do you know how the smtp protocol works?12:37
gephaltis the smb package in the ubuntu repos configured with LDAP support?12:37
n2diyyodoc_: take a look at this: http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq#aol12:37
kitcheflyinghippo: yes xterm eterm aterm12:37
slacker_nlhehehe, n2diy good call :)12:37
yodoc_Checking that site now, BRB12:37
ubek_i cant find app for gnome for cd burning mayby suggestion? :)12:37
magicfingerwill all my software still work with this os12:38
jbroomei didn't even know you could pull aol mail from them to another client.  time to feed my spam machine12:38
slacker_nlubek_: k3b (KDE app, but works fine)12:38
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ocrflyinghippo: beats me:> try running another shell, if it reproduces the error in all shells and terminals, it might be a keymap/driver issue.. if its a driver issue, its probably in your kernel12:38
slacker_nlubek_: and drag and drop with nautilus also works12:38
gansinhoyodoc_, did you set up the port correctly?12:38
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kitchemagicfinger: well to run .exe you need to use wine and some .exe won't run or don't run fully12:38
Gun_SmokeI'm trying to find out if my system recoginzes a wireless card that has been installed.  Where do I look?12:38
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gansinhoyodoc_, double check it, should be 58712:38
slacker_nlGun_Smoke: lspce | grep -i ether12:38
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slacker_nlGun_Smoke: lspci | grep -i ether12:38
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madman91i have an mp3 and a cue .... how can i split the files?12:39
magicfingerso how will i set up my firewall if i cant run an exe12:39
ubek_slacker_nl: i know about k3b but its too much downoadignof packages such kde-base etc...12:39
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slacker_nlubek_: I burned some CD's with nautilus12:39
kitche!iptable|magicfinger linux has one built in you just have to configure it12:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about iptable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:39
yodoc_I have bookmarked that page, I'll try again and follow those instructions to the letter.  Thanks for the help12:39
kitche!iptables|magicfinger linux has one built in you just have to configure it12:39
ubotumagicfinger linux has one built in you just have to configure it: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).12:39
gaussian88?12:40
slacker_nl!cd-burn12:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cd-burn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:40
slacker_nl!burn12:40
ubotuCD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto12:40
magicfingerthanks12:40
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slacker_nlubek_: check ubotu :)12:40
svuis feisty using gnome 2.16 or 2.17 ?12:40
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gaussian88magicfinger: sudo apt-get install firestarter if you want something guified12:40
ubek_slacker_nl: thx12:40
Yakatyhi everyone12:40
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slacker_nlubek_: yw12:41
magicfingeralso if i have xp installed on one hd and linux on another which one will boot up at start up12:41
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mnoirmagicfinger: the one that you tell it ot12:41
mnoirot = to12:41
gaussian88magicfinger: I *think* the one you install last will usually become the primary OS12:42
gaussian88magicfinger: it's quite easy to change later on though12:42
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maltdoes anyone know a example of sending a email with postfix?12:42
magicfingerok do i need to do this in bios or will it give me an option while starting up12:42
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YakatyI've got an annoying problem here.. I installed Ubuntu Edgy on a laptop a while back so it dual booted with windows - everything went fine and worked perfectly so I decided to wipe the lot off there and just stick ubuntu on.. I couldnt find the ubuntu cd so i donwloaded a new one and now when I try booting up with it it gets to the first logo loading screen and then dumps me to busybox12:42
gaussian88magicfinger: Be carefull if you install Ubuntu first, then Windows later though12:42
exsguys just to check - I'm running vmware now, got the xp disc image mounted, I'm currently in the process of installing windows but I am not sure if I am supposed to go through with windows setup to tell it to "format" the partition?..12:42
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slacker_nlmalt: define example12:43
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gaussian88magicfinger: I tend to install Windows *before* I install Ubuntu12:43
magicfingeri allready have windows installed12:43
gaussian88magicfinger: You're good to go.  Just install Ubuntu on your other drive12:43
magicfingerthanks all12:43
gaussian88magicfinger: The installer will see your Windows OS and will Play nicely with it12:43
YakatyI've checked the cd and its ok and when I do a "ls /dev/hd*" my cdrom isn't showing up in there just hda :(12:44
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daedraYakaty: is your cdrom mounted?12:44
magicfingerso i just burn the iso and stick it in my cd rom during start up12:44
daedraYakaty: you could try a sudo mount -a12:44
gansinhoyodoc_, sorry I have to go... check the port... you could have misstyped it or smthng like that... check even if you need some special secure connection settings to send messeges, gmail asks for it... maybe aol asks to and you're not sending mail because of that (eg. gmail asks for sssl encryption)12:44
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Yakatydaedra: what shall I mount though if /dev/hdc doesnt exist?12:45
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kitcheYakaty: try /dev/cdrom12:45
Yakatythats not there either12:45
LameBMXmagicfinger, might i make the suggestion of having a lot of trust in the ubuntu install ... its pretty smart ... had one guy in here a while back which 90% of his problems was he was too used to windows12:45
daedrain ubuntu cdrom mounts from /dev/cdrom0 to /media/cdrom012:45
LameBMXhow can i keep things like automount junk off of my desktop?12:46
Yakatydaedra: its probably not got the helper program running to do that since its at the very first part of the installation12:46
maltlike does anyone know how to send a email with postfix? like what is a example "command"?12:46
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gansinhoyodoc_, good luck, if I arrive at my girlfriends job late she kills me... sorry12:46
TsukagginOkay, I just left the room about 30 mins ago, and I just came in to find 2 search for files windows open. One is empty, the other has results being a Restore folder, with a long number, mount point manager remote database, and tracking.log. My firewall detects no hits. Have I been breached?12:46
slacker_nlmalt: define example12:46
daedraoh I see...12:46
ocrcan someone find me a netinstall x86 server iso image on a norwegian ftp/http? I only have Fetch (FreeBSD) on this machine, and Lynx and w3m are both broken12:46
kitchemalt: postfix is an e-mail server there is no command that I know of unless you want to flush the spool12:46
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borgset that ban12:47
borgyeah12:47
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Tsukaggin. .  any one? Hello?12:48
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yodoc_OK, I set up Thunderbird again, using the information at the website provided.  I composed a test message, and clicked on Send.  I have a window with a progress bar that keeps scrolling from left to right, and doesn't stop or confirm that the mail has been sent.  Now what?12:48
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CrankymonkyOn my Ubuntu Dapper machine, I'm unable to get sound from more than one application at a time and to get sound often requires re-opening an app.  Any fix?12:48
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mnoirTsukaggin: not that likely - what do you have set to run in cron?12:49
Tsukagginwhat's cron?12:49
mnoir!cron12:49
ubotucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm12:49
mineraleHi, I followd the instructions on here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs - and I still cant12:50
mineraleplay dvds...12:50
robtminerale: what happens?12:50
TsukagginWell, i havn't touched cron.12:50
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mineraletotem says it does not have the plugins, robt12:50
|thundersup all, I have a mp3 player that is supposed to mount up just like a USB stick. these are the permissions "drwxr-xr-x  1 eric eric        8 2006-10-23 01:50 Untitled"  it says I dot have permission to write to it. But i am eric, wtf ?12:50
TsukagginSo, nothing to my knowledge.12:50
vanbergecan anyone tell me how to play rmvb files?  :-/   i thought vlc would do the trick12:50
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kitche|thunder: chown won't work on devices you need to use umask instead12:50
|thundervan, real player maybe.12:50
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killownvanberge get win32 codecs12:51
|thunderkitche; it was auto mounted. ill have a look at man umask, thanks12:51
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robtpminerale: you followed the install instructions for libdvdcss2 for 6.10?12:51
mnoirTsukaggin: are the windows at command prompt?12:51
mineralerobtp: yeah the script ran12:51
vanbergekillown, i have'em12:51
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mineralerobtp: it's a single line to execute12:52
|thunderkitche; there is no man entry for umask12:52
robtpminerale: yeah12:52
kitche|thunder: its part of mount12:52
Yakatyanyone any thoughts on how to get this installation working??12:52
TsukagginNo. They are GUI windows, which is odd since a hackers results would be terminal, and I wouldn't be  able to see them on my end.12:52
killownvanberge its work with mplayer12:52
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AoAI installed ubuntu and while installation it didnt ask me for root pass, so how to create root pass after installation ?12:52
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LjLUbotu, tell AoA about root | AoA, see the private message from Ubotu12:52
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magicfingerok just burning the iso now is ubuntu firewall easy to set up12:52
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killownAoA sudo passwd12:53
LjLAoA: short answer: don't create one. use "sudo <command>" for root actions, or if you really need it, "sudo -i" for a root login12:53
mnoirTsukaggin: hmm - strange...I do not have a clue and I cannot see them... :(12:53
Yakatymagicfinger: get firestarter and then yes12:53
vanbergekillown, thats what im trying!12:53
TsukagginI'll take a screen cap of the windows the way I found them, and upload it.12:53
vanberge:-(12:53
magicfingerwhat is firestarter12:53
Yakatymagicfinger: "sudo apt-get install firestarter"12:53
robtpminerale: you also installed libdvdread3?12:53
LjLkillown, the way AoA worded the question indicates s/he doesn't know how root works in Ubuntu, so a much better idea is providing the information about it12:54
mnoir!sudo | AoA12:54
ubotuAoA: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:54
Yakatyits an easy to use firewall program12:54
slickyhm, my mp3 player is strange.. i cant delete files from it.. Filesystem read only it says..  but the filesystem is fat32 i think12:54
mineralerobtp: yep12:54
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mnoirTsukaggin: I am very curious to see the screencap12:54
magicfingeris it on the cd12:54
Yakatymagicfinger: I dont think so12:55
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magicfingerok ill google for it12:55
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AoAmnoir but I WANT TO HAVE ROOT ALLWAYS, not just for sudo12:55
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Yakatylol AoA12:55
mnoirAoA: why12:55
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SurfnKidwhats a good mp3 editor in ubuntu12:55
reikiAoA, that's a good way to have problems12:55
kitcheAoA: if you go that link for sudo it tells you how to do it12:56
jpjacobsSurfnKid, audacity12:56
LjL!caps | aoa12:56
ubotuaoa: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.12:56
Music_ShuffleSurfnKid, audacity12:56
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SurfnKidjpiccolo, ah thanks12:56
Music_Shuffle:o12:56
LjLAoA: anyway, why?12:56
|thunderaoa, then do sudo passwd then enter YOUR passwd, the enter a new root pass.12:56
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ThePubany good alternative to konqueror for strictly web browsing?12:56
LjLAoA: and by "always", do you mean for your *entire* X login? that's a *terrible* idea.12:56
Music_ShuffleFF.12:56
Music_ShuffleEpiphany12:56
|thunderlol12:56
Tsukagginhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/CyberSilver/Screenshot.png?t=116735016712:56
YakatyThePub: firefox12:56
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Music_ShuffleE-Links12:56
Tsukagginthe screencap.12:56
AoAljl , kitche reiki |thunder  thanks I add root passwd12:56
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Music_ShuffleMozilla12:56
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Music_ShuffleSeeing a pattern here? There are quite a few :P12:56
jpjacobsw3m ;)12:56
slickywtf... 1970-01-01 01:00 usbdisk  <-- somethings not right :P12:57
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ThePubYakaty: that uses khtml.12:57
reikiLjL, by the way, I got all that UUID mess straightened out. What a pain in the rear end. :)12:57
SurfnKidGaleon12:57
|thunderaoa. you really dont need it. you can just do 'sudo bash' and have root bash without the need for a root pass12:57
jpjacobsflock12:57
pengulordwtf good anon sock5 is hard to find anymore12:57
LjLAoA: then when you hit some root-unlocking-related bug and/or get hacked into by someone, be sure you come here to complain12:57
ThePubSurfnKid: galeon uses gecko, same with flock12:57
Music_Shuffle!ohmy12:57
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:57
Music_Shuffle;p12:57
LjLreiki: how?12:57
mnoirTsukaggin: the bigger win looks like you were trying to open a file in some app and it was getting the particulars12:57
Dimensionshi can some one tell me ... i have a remote system with rsa i can ssh into the system remotely but when i try to scp and send a file it denies the access why is that what should i do to send the file ???12:57
willhey guys, I'm wondering if my KDE software (Kopete, Krita and AmaroK) will work on Ubuntu...?  I don't want to use Kubuntu but I want to get off SuSE since ubuntu is apparently the best thing since sliced bread.  Thanks, -will12:57
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SurfnKidThePub, english wwwhat you mean12:58
magicfingerdoes ubuntu have a built in internet browser12:58
SurfnKid:P12:58
LjLwill, they'll work fine. they'll just install, well, most of the KDE libraries.12:58
NuveneI windows on my linux box to dualboot... but now I cant get into my linux12:58
SilentDis'lo :)12:58
willmagicfinger: Ofcourse.12:58
slickywhats the name of a usb device in /dev/ ?12:58
ThePubSurfnKid: eh?12:58
NuveneI installed windows12:58
Tsukagginso this is just a delayed response to an action I took?12:58
jpjacobsmagicfinger, ubuntu installs firfox per default12:58
jpjacobsfirefow*12:58
reikiLjL I found that by cloning I had 2 file systems with the exact same UUID.... cloning did it's job very well. I had to use uuidgen to make a new UUID and then tune2fs -U to assign that UUID to one of the duplicates12:58
jpiccolosurfnkid, what?12:58
LjLwill: if you're mostly going to use KDE apps, it probably does make sense to use KDE.12:58
magicfingerok thanks12:58
jpjacobsfirefox* darn laptopkeyboard12:58
mnoirTsukaggin: possible - were you impatient at something?12:58
DimensionsNuvene .... u would need to boot it with a live ubuntu cd and goto command prompt to set it up ... and reinstall grub ...12:59
SurfnKidi was tring to figure out what gecko and flock were12:59
LjLreiki: yes, i follow you on that part... but you said /dev/by-uuid/whatever still gave them as duplicate12:59
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mnoirTsukaggin: oh and that guy on the wallpaper is ugly....12:59
SilentDismagicfinger, Ubuntu comes bundled with Firefox, as of right now.  There's pleanty others as well, available for free download from the repositories12:59
daedraNuvene: there are some great tools to access 'hidden' partitions like gag46, smartbootfloppy12:59
Music_ShuffleUnless you dislike KDE, in which case most will work ok under Gnome, but I wouldn't push it or be really demanding.12:59
alecjwmagicfinger: you might prefer epiphany though. it uses your gtk theme12:59
mineraleI have installed everything, but I keep getting errors when trying to open the dvd something about /dev/dvd not read12:59
TsukagginNo, the last thing I recall doing actually is closing a window in Firefox. And that's  Dirge, a varient Shovel Weilding Xombie. He kicks ass.12:59
YakatyUbuntu Edgy installation stops with "BusyBox    /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" -- looks like its not detecting my cdrom drive when it loads the linux kernel.... any ideas???12:59
TsukagginBut yeah, I was just browsing a forum.12:59
willMusic_Shuffle:  It's not that I "Dislike it", well, pretty much.  I like the color scheme and bar sizes etc of Gnome, but I like the software of KDE01:00
LjLMusic_Shuffle: still, if you dislike KDE, i'm not sure there's much point in using KDE apps for most things...01:00
reikiLjL, blkid showed them as still duplicates, /dev/disk/by-uuid was correct. Had to remove the file /etc/blkid.tab and run blkid as sudo to make it rebuld the file01:00
LjLwill, uhm, you can change the color scheme and bar sizes easily enough01:00
daedraKubuntu rocks :)01:00
mnoirTsukaggin: it looks like the back window is the parent - what is it?01:00
jpiccoloSurfnKid, did you need something?01:00
willLjL: Meeh, it just wouldn't be the same.  What I really want is Krita and Koffice to work01:00
Music_ShuffleLjL, true. Although are we counting doing like I do and having like 5 WM's installed and interplaying with apps? I use a few KDe apps under Gnome >.>01:00
SurfnKidjpiccolo, nah i was just wondering about gecko and flock and what they were but thats is ok i dont need to know :p01:01
LjLwill, and eat twice of the RAM they should be eating? well, as long as it's ok with you01:01
SurfnKidat least not yet01:01
SilentDisI've personally been shuffling back and forth between gnome and KDE, to see the differences.  while there's a lot I do like in KDE, i'm just more comfortable with gnome *shrug*01:01
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reikiLjL, do you know if , for example, the UUID of /dev/hda1 is stored on that file system somewhere?01:01
willLjL: I've had bad expieriences with Kubuntu so far.  It stops workign completly (I can't login) after I update my drivers and try to install my wacom tablet.  Never had any problems under Ubuntu or SuSE 10.201:01
Tsukagginhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/CyberSilver/Screenshot-1.png?t=1167350511 See? It's empty.01:02
jpiccolosurfnkid, is this jared?01:02
daedraSince slackware moved to KDE I've followed it01:02
SurfnKidhuh?01:02
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SurfnKidjared?01:02
vanbergehas anybody ever played a .rmvb file in ubuntu?  :-) if so please help..  thanks in advance01:02
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jpiccolonm then01:02
LjLMusic_Shuffle, well, it depends on how you see things. if you just want to choose the *program you like best* for each job you need to do, you'll have a mixture of KDE and GNOME and whatever programs. and that's fine, if it fits your goal. but if you mostly like the KDE programs (or, conversely, mostly like the GNOME programs), you should be using the matching environment IMHO.01:02
mnoirTsukaggin: frankly, i think you should blow away the bigger win and see what happens to the back one - it does not look dangerous - looks like a mouse slip....01:02
SurfnKidjp heh01:02
Tsukagginuhh01:03
Tsukagginodd01:03
TsukagginI closed it01:03
Tsukagginand a new window came up01:03
mnoirTsukaggin: yes??01:03
|thunderhow would I find out what filesystem is on a flash drive ? "fdisk -l /dev/sda " returns "Disk /dev/sda doesn't contain a valid partition table". But I can read the files.01:03
reikioooo... hockey game will be starting in a bit01:03
Tsukagginsaying Name Contains:                            ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;gbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbjuolhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000;01:03
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Music_ShuffleLjL, good point.  Prolly makes it work better.01:03
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SilentDisvanberge, i'm poking google now for that file...01:03
LjLMusic_Shuffle: myself, i try to stick to programs made for my DE, even in cases when i think other programs are *better*. i can understand very well how others might find this point of view a bit extreme -- what i cannot quite understand is "99% of the apps i use are KDE, but i use GNOME"01:03
magicfingerso how do i install firestarter01:03
TsukagginIt looks just like the smaller window, only that's in the name feild.01:04
Music_Shufflesudo apt-get install firestarter01:04
Music_Shuffle?01:04
mnoirTsukaggin: garbage from some mouse slip i think01:04
Gun_Smokeamazing.01:04
magicfingeri dont understand01:04
SilentDisvanberge, looks like there's a thread on the ubuntu forums - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17154801:04
LjLTsukaggin, no need to spam the channel like that...01:04
LjL!enter01:04
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!01:04
Gun_SmokeI have no idea why this computer is still connected to the net.01:04
robtpminerale: im not too sure then, try installing another program01:04
Music_ShuffleLjL, lol true. I prefer to minimize mixing, but Gnome's torrent client, for example, I'm not a fan of. kTorrent is yay. ^^01:04
rambo3gj on this one who ever made it : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32700101:04
Music_Shufflemagicfinger, enter that into a terminal.01:04
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Gun_SmokeI've unpluged my wireless adaper.01:04
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vanbergeSilentDis, tyvm.  :-)01:05
magicfingerterminal?01:05
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kcinnaanyone know which program to use to rip a dvd to an iso?01:05
Gun_SmokeThere must be one in the box I didn't even know about.01:05
TsukagginIf you say so. i'm pretty leary about security actually. My systems pretty tight. and this didn't look like anything i've seen before. For one I could SEE it, and you can't with most hacks.01:05
SilentDisvanberge, nt :)01:05
Tsukagginso I'm a little paranoid.01:05
Music_Shufflemagicfinger, are you in Gnome?01:05
TsukagginBut if you say it's nothing to worry about, i'll trust you.01:05
Aggrav8dhow do i permanently alias a command?  i thought it was $ alias acronym "long version"01:05
jpjacobskcinna, dd? or dvdisaster, or k3b or ...01:05
magicfingerim confused01:05
LjLAggrav8d: put that into ~/.bashrc01:05
SilentDiskcinna, video DVD or data DVD?  i've not found a good recompressor program to make DVDs into ISOs (yet) but K3B will do data DVDs without issue.01:05
mnoirtsu - good - but this looks benign - file searching01:05
magicfingerive never used linux before01:05
Music_Shufflemagicfinger, hit alt-f2, check the box labeled 'run in terminal' and then enter that prompt I gave you into the blank line of 'program to run'01:06
Aggrav8dLjL - well i try it from the command line and it tells me it doesn't recognize alias01:06
kcinnaSilentDis:  video dvd01:06
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TsukagginThe files they searched is what scared me.01:06
TsukagginA restore point?01:06
TsukagginTracking.log?01:06
reikiLjL, I posted the UUID adventure here: http://www.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=32687101:06
Music_Shufflemagicfinger, it will then open a terminal window and ask you for your password. Your password is your login password.01:06
jpjacobsSilentDis, doesn't matter: an iso is an exact image of the medium01:06
LjLAggrav8d: it's     alias aliasname="your command"01:06
Tsukagginthe mount manager?01:06
LjLtry it like that01:06
reikigoing to watch hockey ... y'all have fun01:06
Music_Shufflemagicfinger, enter your password, hit enter, and it'll run.01:06
Music_Shufflereiki, you too :D01:06
LjLthanks reiki01:06
TsukagginPretty key files IIRC.01:06
magicfingerok thanks01:07
SilentDisjpjacobs, very true, but most people, when they want an ISO, they also want to strip out all the CSS stuff (like me)01:07
mnoirTsukaggin: i do not know how tightly you manage ff and java/javascript, etc01:07
Music_Shufflemagicfinger, Good luck. :)01:07
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jpjacobswell he/she asked for an iso...01:07
SilentDiskcinna, you SHOULD be able to just use nautilus to do it.  right click the icon on your desktop, and choose create iso :)01:07
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LjLwell reiki, just a hasty comment from the first paragraph... not all "human beings" clone partitions ;)01:07
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magicfingercan you send that command in pvt please copy and paste not working.  I need to write it down01:08
mnoirTsukaggin: i would recommend purging all cache, get the NOSCRIPT plugin, disable cookies, etc01:08
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Dimensionsno one knows solution to my problem ?01:08
TsukagginI don't really. I'm not still pretty new to this kind of stuff. i've got hardware and software firewalls, password protection with high complexity passwords, and I only use mail adresses with 128 bit encryption.01:08
Aggrav8dLjL - thanks01:08
kcinnaSilentDis: ah, got it, thanks01:08
TsukagginBut beyond that01:08
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TsukagginI'm stumbling in the dark so to speak.01:08
Music_ShuffleTsukaggin, what do you deal in, nuclear secrets!?01:08
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cody_Anyone here able to help me out with Eclipse? I have it installed but I am getting errors while it is starting up01:09
Music_ShuffleDimensions, what was your issue?01:09
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magicfingerwhats the command again sudo apt-?01:09
DimensionsMusic_Shuffle i can ssh into my remote pc with rsa setup but when i scp into it for sending a file it denies the access ...01:09
mnoirTsukaggin: the only susupect vectors into an ubuntu system right now are all the browser related things01:09
SilentDiskcinna, that'll make an 'identical copy' of the data on the disk... as for removing CSS and such...  if you find something, please let me know!01:09
Music_ShuffleAhh, never mucked about with SSH, sorry. :(01:09
jpjacobsDimensions, maybe something in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config denies filetransfer?01:10
Dimensions:) no worries Music_Shuffle...01:10
Music_Shufflemnoir, and physical access :P01:10
mnoirtsu - but i am with you on paranoia - i run a hardware double-natted firewall in front of my desktop01:10
mnoirMusic_Shuffle: :)01:10
TsukagginAhh. So it could be something coming through firefox? I'll purge my cookies and temp files then, and read up on browser security.01:10
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Music_ShuffleJust browse safe.01:10
Dimensionsjpjacobs from my side or remote pc setting ?01:10
jpjacobsDimensions, sure the syntax is right? otherwise you could try by using sftp?01:10
mnoirtsu - maybe01:10
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jpjacobssshd_config is the configfile for the sshserver, so the remote one01:11
mnoirTsukaggin: i am not convinced though - still looks like a mouse slip to me :)01:11
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Dimensionsyeah jpjacobs syntx  is sudo scp -pr filelocation remotepcIP:/location01:11
interfear6.10 won't boot in safe graphics mode, looks grey and distorted, sound plays, i have heard others are having same prob.. any ideas? nvidia 6600gt pcie01:11
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interfear6.06 booted fine in safe graphics01:11
levanderI'm a little worried about my system right now, and when I type gnome-system-monitor at the command line, it starts up okay, but it prints out this on the terminal: "** (gnome-system-monitor:29920): WARNING **: SELinux was found but is not enabled."  Anyone knows why SELinux is not enabled on my system?01:12
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jpjacobsDimensions, be sure that /location is writable to you.01:12
TsukagginWell, thanks for the help mnoir. I'll be back if anything else happens. Also, Music_Shuffle, you'll find a package from the CIA at your door in an hour, as a courtesy, I'm going to tell you not to open it. Nor question my nuclear secrets in the future.01:12
Tsukaggin=P01:12
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chris_QnutAnyone! Newbie question.  using ubuntu for webserver.  have ipcop setup with green(192.168.1.X)-Orange(10.10.10.x)-red(internet).  Webserver is on orange as 10.10.10.2.  Firewall is port forwarding 80 requests fine but cannot seem to get settings on server to get me out through the RED interface from ORANGE to do some updates.01:12
magicfingerdo i need to be connected to the internet to get firstarter through the terminal01:12
Music_ShuffleTsukaggin, XD01:12
mnoirTsukaggin: :)01:12
Music_Shufflemagicfinger, yes. You need to be connected to get it from anywhere...01:12
Music_ShuffleUnless you have it on a disk.01:12
Tsukagginbuh bye now. =P01:12
magicfingerok cheers01:12
mnoirbb01:12
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Music_Shuffleinterfear, the card isn't the issue I don't think >.>01:13
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ruthhi, also have a newbie question01:13
Music_ShuffleNo question is too newbie, I assure you.01:13
magicfingeris the terminal like telnet01:13
Dimensionsjpjacobs i donno but it says ssh_exchange_identification: read:connection reset by peer01:13
ruthi have downloaded Nicotine but having a few probs01:13
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Music_ShuffleThe terminal is like...the terminal...01:13
Music_Shuffle!terminal01:13
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands01:13
LameBMXmagicfinger, like telnet + cmd prompt01:13
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jpjacobsDimensions, then i don't know.  never encountered this problem01:14
magicfingerthanks ill go try and install it now01:14
magicfingerthanks all01:14
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rutham on  nicotine settings  and when i click apply nothing happens01:15
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chris_QnutAnyone! Newbie question.  using ubuntu for webserver.  have ipcop setup with green(192.168.1.X)-Orange(10.10.10.x)-red(internet).  Webserver is on orange as 10.10.10.2.  Firewall is port forwarding 80 requests fine but cannot seem to get settings on server to get me out through the RED interface from ORANGE to do some updates.01:16
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Music_Shuffleruth, does anything happen/change if you click...ok? ;o01:16
j0sh0hi, could someone please let me know why I have trouble accessing the net thru my ethernet ADSL router in the gui (6.06) but I can ping URLs and can obviously connect here????01:17
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ruthnope, nothing happens when i click 'ok'01:17
kitchej0sh0: it's probably due to ipv6 if you don't use it which not many do right now01:17
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kitche!ipv6|j0sh001:17
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ubotuj0sh0: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv401:17
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mzhangany mem-speed benchmark application available?01:18
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vanbergeok... looks like realplayer is the way to go.  sweet.  Now, before i install this, can anyone tell me if it is easy/a pain to get rid of?  i've had bad experiences with realplayer01:18
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j0sh0thanks guys i'll have a look!!!01:18
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vanbergej0sh0, that is the problem.  i had the same01:20
vanbergej0sh0, i was frustrated for a very long time!  :-)01:20
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magicfingerhello the disk i just burnt will not boot up during start up01:21
j0sh0vanberge: haha i'm pulling my hair out!!! how do I disable it? I can't bloody get to the wiki or support to find out how!01:21
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christiane_Hello. I'm trying to encode an xvid video using dvd::rip on Edgy. I copied the vob files successfully but when I hit "transcode" nothing happens. Which packet could be missing?01:21
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magicfingeranbody know how to make the cd start during start up01:22
AnRkeyhi all01:23
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magicfingerhi01:23
daedra!dvd01:23
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages01:23
neurotechI'm considering upgrading my install of Dapper to Edgy using the "$ gksu "update-manager -c"" method - is it worth the risk?01:23
martin__how do i get java5?01:23
daedra!rip01:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:23
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ubotudvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.1-0.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 2084 kB01:23
dabaRneurotech: what do you intend to obtain by upgrading?01:23
AnRkeydoes any1 here know of a good howto for ltsp on ubuntu? I want to set up a server for testing here...01:23
dabaR!java > martin__01:23
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martin__!java01:24
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository01:24
martin__ty =)01:24
shoaibhi all......i am not able to install "build essential".....can anybody help me in that01:24
kitchemartin__: you should have gotten a pm from ubotu also about it01:24
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neurotechdabaR: I just want my OS to be up to date01:24
LjLshoaib: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"01:24
magicfingerplease help, how do i install please01:24
AnRkeyor just use automatix to install all your java stuff for you...01:24
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christiane_daedra: dvdrip is installed ;-)01:24
reiatzumagicfinger: LOL01:24
shoaibLjL....it says cannot find package build essential01:24
vanberge       gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/bad_list01:24
vanberge   2.01:24
vanberge      Add this line:  alias net-pf-10 off01:24
vanberge   3.01:24
vanberge      Save the file and restart your computer01:24
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kitcheshoaib: build-essential not build essential01:25
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martin__!Multiverse repository01:25
LjL!automatix | AnRkey01:25
ubotuAnRkey: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe01:25
dabaRAnRkey: try this http://edubuntu.org/GettingStarted01:25
LjLUbotu, tell martin__ about multiverse | martin__, see the private message from Ubotu01:25
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shoaibyes i tried build-essential also01:25
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LjL!elaborate | shoaib01:25
ubotushoaib: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)01:25
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reiatzuone of my best friends is called cheyenne, CheyenneD01:25
LjLreiatzu: ?01:26
vanbergesorry guys.  i tried to pm that to j0sh001:26
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magicfingerso how do i install ubuntu01:26
reiatzuLjL: nevermind01:26
reiatzumagicfinger: you download the iso01:26
vanbergej0sh0, did you get any of what i pasted?01:26
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reiatzuthen you follow the instructions01:26
dabaRneurotech: use sudo aptitude update&&sudo aptitude dist-upgrade to be up to date. If everything works, and you are afraid, there is no need to upgrade.01:26
CheyenneDHow do I install .deb packages?01:26
magicfingeri have done that and burned it to disk01:26
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AnRkeydabaR: thanks01:26
dabaR!install > magicfinger01:26
j0sh0vanberge: nope sorry mate, please pm again!01:26
LjLUbotu, tell CheyenneD about software | CheyenneD, see the private message from Ubotu01:27
shoaibi have to install gcc......for that I think that build-essential has to be installed first.......when i type "sudo apt-get install build-essential" it says that E:Could not find package build-essential01:27
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LjLshoaib: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list01:27
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magicfingerhow can i install if the disk will not load during start up01:27
dabaRshoaib: and show output of aptitude search build-essential while you are at it.01:27
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dabaRmagicfinger: is it a PC or a Mac?01:27
magicfingerPC01:28
shoaibok wait01:28
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dabaRmagicfinger: and are you sure you have boot from CD enabled in BIOS?01:28
christiane_Any idea why transcoding from dvdrip doesn't start? There's no log output ...01:28
magicfingeryes01:28
magicfingercoz windows cd auto loads during start up01:28
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kitchemagicfinger: how did you burn the cd? since you are suppose ot burn as an image and not as a data01:28
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dabaRmagicfinger: and do you run windows right now?01:28
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magicfingeri burned using nero01:28
magicfingeryes xp01:29
dabaRmagicfinger: put in the CD now, and see whether you get a program auto-loaded01:29
kitchemagicfinger: did you go to file open then select the .iso file?01:29
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dabaRkitche: I think he can find that out by inserting the CD now.01:29
magicfingeryes its auto loading01:29
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dabaRmagicfinger: then there is no reason for it not to load at boot up, afaict.01:30
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shoaibLjL....sources.list is commented...there are lots of lines but all are commented...and when I type "aptitude search build-essential", nothing happens and I get the prompt again01:30
dabaRmagicfinger: you say you tried the iwndows install cd, and it loaded?01:30
magicfingeryes01:30
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dabaRshoaib: uncomment the deb line for main.01:30
LjLshoaib: then you need to uncomment (some of) the lines.01:30
LjLUbotu, tell shoiab about repos | shoiab, see the private message from Ubotu01:31
vanbergej0sh0, did you get my pms?01:31
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LjLshoaib: for what the various lines give you, see the link by the bot. but for build-essential you just need main01:31
shoaibok01:31
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magicbronson_just plugged in a usb wireless adapter to my ubuntu machine. according to ifconfig, wlan0 is pulling an IP from my wireless router. anyone have any idea why /proc/net/wireless says my link quality is 0 and i have no internet? i'm right next to the router.01:32
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dabaRmagicbronson_: can you ping the router?01:33
magicbronson_yes01:33
dabaRmagicbronson_: can you ping, for example, 164.109.28.3?01:33
AnRkeydabaR: thanks, for the link. I was wondering about doing ltsp on the ubuntu desktop or server and not edubuntu. It looks like edubuntu does everything for you. Do you know of any howtos for the normal ubuntu?01:33
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dabaRAnRkey: not any you could not find on google.01:34
Alt_F4anyone here use proftp?01:34
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magicbronson_dabaR: well, this might not be the best form of diagnostic... the machine is also connected to the router via ethernet cable01:34
darius_heh01:34
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AnRkeydabaR: which one do you use?01:34
magicbronson_dabaR: the machine is also 40 miles away.01:35
darius_magicbronson: install tcpdump and watch for inbound traffic on the interface01:35
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Alt_F4does anyone here use proftp (again)01:35
darius_magicbronson_: iwconfig reports 0 quality?01:35
dabaRmagicbronson_: well, then I am not sure what to tell you. Try disabling the wired interface, and go from there:-/01:35
shoaibLjL..who is ubotu??...i think its an automated messenger sort of a thing...how do i uncomment sources.list??....which lines to comment...??01:35
ValmarkoIs there a way of testing the 'real speed' of my conexion ?01:36
lightuphi guys, I'm trying to mount a windows hard drive to salvage some files for a friend but I'm getting a bit stuck, is there a specific way to do this besides mount?01:36
LjLUbotu, tell shoaib about bot | shoaib, see the private message from Ubotu01:36
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kitche!ntfs|lightup01:36
ubotulightup: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse01:36
Music_ShuffleLjL's so skilled at answering hundreds of questions with nothing but ubotu at his side :P01:36
magicbronson_darius_: iwconfig doesn't say anything about quality, but says i'm connected to the right essid01:36
dabaRValmarko: due to the nature of how the Internet works, no, there is no way of testing the "real speed" of your Internet connection.01:36
LjLshoaib, if you pastebin it, i'll be able to tell which lines to uncomment... otherwise, anyway, you want to enable "main" for "edgy", "edgy-updates" and "edgy-security" (or the equivalent for dapper if you're using that)01:36
darius_magicbronson_: btw - wireless usb support is very hit & miss with Linux01:36
LjLUbotu, tell Music_Shuffle about sarcasm | Music_Shuffle, see the private message from Ubotu01:37
magicbronson_darius_: i noticed01:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sarcasm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:37
cody_Anyone around able to Help me with Eclipse. I have it isntalled but I am having problems getting it to run. I get errors on startup01:37
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lightupubotu: thanks I'll go look01:37
Music_ShuffleHahaha01:37
ValmarkodabaR, tanks01:37
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dabaRValmarko: if you connect to my computer to download something, the real speed of your connection == the upload speed of my connection. Same for any other connection.01:37
magicbronson_dabaR: if the ethernet cable is unplugged i can't ping out over wlan001:38
dabaRmagicbronson_: can you ping the router?01:38
magicbronson_dabaR: yes01:38
ValmarkodabaR, I understand now. It depends greatly from the server that sends the files01:38
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dabaRmagicbronson_: what does iwconfig tell you?01:38
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dabaRValmarko: yes, that is the bottleneck mostly, not your connection to the ISP. You can test the max bandwidth sent by the ISP01:39
magicbronson_dabaR: http://pastebin.ca/29500501:39
MTecknologyI'm trying to install a command line system... when i get to the install it asks for a language but i have no keyboard01:39
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Ha1You have no keyboard?01:39
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dabaRallowed by the ISP by using bittorrent or gtk-gnutella to download a common file(that way many users will send you bits of the file, and you will likely max out your download bandwidth.01:40
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MTecknologyHal, but i did use it to choose the install01:40
magicbronson_dabaR: note "Link Quality=0/0"01:40
FunnyLookinHatWhat good is a computer without a keyboard?01:40
Dimensionsjpjacobs i have checked that setting but there is no such setting regarding file transfer in sshd_config file .... i get message permission denied publickey lost connection ...01:40
darius_magicbronson_: Does ifconfig show that you've received any packets?01:40
Music_ShuffleFunnyLookinHat, a server?01:40
Ha1Agreed with funnylooking01:40
MTecknologyHal, it's a PS2 mouse and i'm using 6.1001:40
dabaRmagicbronson_: so it has no encryption on it, hey?01:40
cody_Eclipse help anyone?01:40
FunnyLookinHatMusic_Shuffle, right...  but why remove the keyboard before you are done installing I mean, lol01:41
dabaRcody_: what exactly?01:41
MTecknologyanybody know how to make the install recognise my PS2 mouse?01:41
Music_ShuffleFunnyLookinHat, Rofl.  Right.  Didn't catch that part :P01:41
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LameBMXanyone recomment a nice gui'd back-up program01:41
FunnyLookinHatMusic_Shuffle, w00t   ; )01:41
cody_I have it installed but It is throwing an error when I try to start it01:41
ValmarkodabaR, tnks very much :)01:41
LameBMXrecccommend even01:41
cody_java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: memmove01:41
LameBMXgah01:41
kitcheMTecknology: it should already reconize it but what installer you using?01:41
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Music_Shuffle^_^01:41
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dabaR!backup > LameBMX01:41
Music_ShuffleTry again LameBMX ! Almost! :D01:41
dabaRLameBMX: just in case you did not read that...01:41
magicbronson_darius_: yes, thousands of RX and TX packets received with 0 dropped01:41
MTecknologykitche, Ubuntu Server 6.10 Text Install01:41
magicbronson_dabaR: no, no encryption01:42
kitchecody_: what does the errors say01:42
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kitcheMTecknology: the mouse won't work in that install version cd anyways01:42
EuphidimeHey everyone, still having problems fixing my MBR. I found an ISO of the WinXP recovery console, but I can't write the image to a CD because I'm on the Ubuntu Live CD. The live CD is really my only option for internet access at the moment, so is there a way I can write the image to a blank cd while still using Ubuntu? (I only have one CD drive.)01:42
MTecknologykitche, I can select the install option, but i lose keyboard after that01:42
dabaRcody_: please tell me more, and paste the exact output of all errors to paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:42
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darius_magicbronson_: you see the AP in 'iwlist wlan0 scanning' ?01:42
LameBMXlol01:42
MTecknologykitche, the keyboard is PS201:42
Music_ShuffleEuphidime, not unless you install Ubuntu and then do it....or get another drive.01:42
kcinnahow long does it usually take to create a dvd iso?01:43
kitchekcinna: a while01:43
chrisg0619Hey, I just upgraded a bunch of stuff on Ubuntu 6.10; I also uninstalled Evolution and OpenOffice.org and had to reinstall some GNOME preference packages.  Now X won't load completely--all I see is the default background and nothing else.  Not even Ctrl+Alt+Del works, only the power button.  What's going on?01:43
magicbronson_darius_: yes01:43
dabaRkcinna: to create it?01:43
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cody_dabaR, how do I paste it there?01:43
EuphidimeMusic_Shuffle: Neither of those are really an option :/01:43
kcinnai'm ripping an iso from a dvd01:43
MTecknologykitche, sorry, i meant i lose my keyboard01:43
kcinnait started fast, but not its going really slow at 50%01:43
kcinnalike 1 mb every 3 seconds01:43
kitcheMTecknology: hmm that is odd01:43
dabaRcody_: it is self-explanatory, I believe. Click http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to see.01:43
EuphidimeI'd have to resize my NTFS partition in order to Install Ubuntu, and from previous experiences, I couldn't resize my NTFS partition before I defragment it.01:44
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MTecknologykitche, any ideas?01:44
darius_magicbronson_: you said that your getting an IP leased?01:44
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adamhWhen somebody tries brute-force to log in to my computer over SSH, they don't get in... but every attempt (i.e., every second) there's an annoying murmer from my machine as the hard drive clicks (I suppose for the log entry). I just want to make the noise go away; blocking the attacker would be a nice side-effect as long as I am absolutely 100% sure I don't block *myself* out. What's a good solution to this problem?01:44
dabaRchrisg0619: do you mean that your GDM does not load properly, or what exactly?01:44
magicbronson_darius_: yes01:44
cody_dabaR, thanks, I never used that before.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39250/01:44
Music_ShuffleEuphidime, you can resize without defragging.01:44
darius_magicbronson: what was the problem again? :)01:44
gatenchrisg0619:  get into the console w/ ctrl+alt+f1 and put in: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:45
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chrisg0619dabaR: yeah, GNOME doesn't completely load; I don't even see the ubuntu thing telling me what services are loading01:45
dabaRadamh: do they have a common IP address they use?01:45
magicbronson_darius_: if i unplug the ethernet cable, i have no internet over wlan001:45
chrisg0619gaten: I already did that to no avail01:45
magicbronson_darius_: iwconfig reports link quality of 001:45
kitcheMTecknology: not really since it seems to be part of the installer problem but you sure you lose it you can't press the up or down arrows and it won't move?01:45
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adamhdabaR: uh, yes, the one that's been annoying me lately has.01:45
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Lathiatadamh: i use this: http://bur.st/~lathiat/block_freq_connect --- it blocks anyone that tries to connect to SSH more than 10 times in 60 seconds for a little while01:45
EuphidimeMagic_Shuffle: Do you know of a way I can reinstall GRUB without installing Ubuntu?01:46
MTecknologykitche, it won't move and i also can't change the lights, such as caps and num lock01:46
dabaRadamh: ban them from connecting to your computer. man iptables will tell you how.01:46
Lathiatadamh: other alternative is to change your ssh port01:46
gatenchrisg0619:  don't autodetect your video hardware, but choose "vesa". that will get your X back. hopefully01:46
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darius_magicbronson_: it looks like a problem above layer 2.  I highly recommend you use tcpdump01:46
Music_ShuffleMusic* btw. ;P01:46
adamhLathiat: "for a little while?" Loos like it blocks it forever...01:46
Music_Shuffle!GRUB01:46
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:46
Music_ShuffleEuphidime, that should help.01:46
chrisg0619gaten: I chose "vesa," and nothing happened.  It's not like nothing would load; I did see the background and everything.01:46
Ha1Yeah, I had a similar problem and vesa worked for me01:46
dabaRcody_: this happens when you run eclipse?01:47
Lathiatadamh: not sure what the defautl time is but it epxires after a bit, per IP01:47
cody_dabaR, when I start eclipse01:47
Euphidime4. Type "find /boot/grub/stage1".01:47
adamhLathiat: That sounds perfect. Thank you :)01:47
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EuphidimeWhen I do that, grub says the file couldn't be found01:47
dabaRcody_: and your java is a 64 bit one?01:47
gatenchrisg0619:  ok, so the login screen just wouldnt come up?01:47
dabaRcody_: and your system is a 64 bit one?01:47
chrisg0619gaten: actually, the login screen does come up.  Sorry for omitting that detail--I get to log in, then nothing happens after that.01:48
cody_dabaR, system is definately 64 bit, I can double check my java is01:48
Lathiatadamh: hrm actually i cant see any references to the time, maybe it is permanant, give it a try01:48
Lathiatadamh: but i've accidentlly set it off before and just waited a bit01:48
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darius_magicbronson_: did you say that you can/cannot ping the gateway while your ethernet cable is pulled?01:48
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magicbronson_darius_: i'm running tcpdump now... what should i look for?01:48
gatenchrisg0619:  oh ok, so it just hangs after you login eh. did you check the X log for any errors?01:48
magicbronson_darius_: i can01:48
darius_magicbronson_: first confirm that you're receiving any packets01:48
MTecknologykitche, you know of any boot param for the install that will recheck PS2 components?01:48
Lathiatadamh: ah, its 60 seconds01:49
chrisg0619gaten: how would i get to the X log from the terminal?  I'm not quite sure how to do that--at any rate, no, I didn't check the log.01:49
MTecknologykitche, there are errors that show up but the are too quick for me to copy01:49
adamhLathiat: Okay. Well, I can't think of a situation in which I'd miss 10 times in 60 seconds (and if I did, I have other computers I could connect from), so this should be all right.01:49
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darius_magicbronson_: try pinging the gateway while you have tcpdump running01:49
Lathiatadamh: you need to miss 10 in 60 seconds, and then it blocks you for 60 seconds01:49
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darius_magicbronson_: I assume you see a response01:49
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magicbronson_yeah, it's flooding my term01:50
gatenchrisg0619:  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log01:50
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magicbronson_darius_: (i'm ssh'd in)01:50
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chrisg0619gaten: thanks; I'll be back in a few01:50
cypruserHow do I get out of the Info screen in the Terminal?01:50
gatenchrisg0619:  sure thing01:50
darius_magicbronson_: ok, so it sounds like layer2 is solid01:50
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dabaRcypruser: hit q, or ZZ01:50
EuphidimeError 17: Cannot mount selected partition01:51
chris_QnutAnyone! Newbie question.  using ubuntu for webserver.  have ipcop setup with green(192.168.1.X)-Orange(10.10.10.x)-red(internet).  Webserver is on orange as 10.10.10.2.  Firewall is port forwarding 80 requests fine but cannot seem to get settings on server to get me out through the RED interface from ORANGE to do some updates.01:51
cypruserdabaR: Thanks.01:51
lightupCan Linux mount a partition of type "extended"? (I'm not fully sure what this means, all the other partitions on the drive are FAT32)01:51
adamhlightup: "extended" means you can put more partitions in there.01:51
magicbronson_darius_: cool, any idea what to try next?01:51
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darius_magicbronson_: Have you verified that the router is able to forward packets?  (is it the same router that you were plugged into by ethernet wire)?01:51
lightupadamh: so theres nothing in it?01:51
adamhlightup: The reason being, regular ("primary") partitions are limited to 4 per drive. If you want more than 4, you have to put an "extended" partition and put them in there.01:51
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darius_magicbronson_: netstat -rn .. could you post that to pastebin01:52
gatenchris_Qnut:  updates with what? apt-get?01:52
un_operateurchris_Qnut, what do the colours red, orange and green signify? and are you sure this is a question you should be asking in #ubuntu?01:52
Ha1I have extended partitons up the aproverbial on my 400GB machine01:52
dabaRcody_: how did you install eclipse?01:52
lightupadamh: so how do I mount it?  I get a message saying "special device does not exist"01:52
adamhlightup: Well, there may be. Check the start and end blocks -- if your extended partition is /dev/hda5, then you probably have /dev/hda6 to /dev/hda99 (however many you have) in that extended partition.01:52
magicbronson_darius_: http://pastebin.ca/29501801:52
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lightupadamh: no its hdb3, but its the biggest partition there01:53
cody_dabaR, i used synaptic and I tried downloading straight from eclipse.org01:53
adamhlightup: Do you have an hdb4?01:53
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lightupadamh: yeah01:53
dabaRcody_: so you have the eclipse-jdt package installed?01:53
darius_magicbronson_: it looks like your wired ethernet route is not being torn down01:53
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adamhlightup: Whoops, wrong question ;). Do you have an hdb5?01:53
darius_magicbronson_: how did you disable the wired ethernet port?01:53
cody_dabaR, that is installed01:54
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AnRkeywhat is the dif between gksudo and sudo?01:54
lightupadamh: yeah, there was very little in it.  Not what I was looking for anyway!01:54
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j0sh0hi thanks so much for helping me with the IPv6 problem its working perfectly now! The last issue I'm having is with my wireless. I've set up the card properly with ifconfig, iwconfig, wpa_supplicant. I've used wpa_cli to check the connection and all seems fine (WEP connected), except I cant ping the router? The lights on the wireless card act like it's connected properly (like they did for win xp), and I'm sure I'm using the correct driver (madwifi). There must01:54
dabaRcody_: and you just run eclipse in a terminal?01:54
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adamhlightup: Try "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb" and check the start and end blocks. /dev/hdb5 will probably start at the same block as /dev/hdb3, right?01:54
chris_Qnutquestion is probably a general linux question.  am using ubuntu LAMP server install.   RED-GREEN-ORANGE are the interfaces on the firewall the webserver sits behind.01:54
magicbronson_darius_: i didn't. if i were to bring it down, i'd lose my ssh connection to the machine01:54
cody_dabaR, i tried a terminal and through the menu link01:55
dabaRAnRkey: gksudo is better to use with gui programs than sudo, and vice versa.01:55
darius_magicbronson_: so how do you know that your wireless link isn't working?01:55
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adamhlightup: Oh, you're looking for specific files that you've lost?01:55
magicbronson_darius_:  because i had someone near the machine unplug the ethernet cable and try to go to a web site01:55
AnRkeyk thanks01:55
un_operateurAnRkey, gksu/gksudo setup the proper environment for gnome  to be run in a super-user context01:56
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ehmnHey, how I install kernel 2.6.18 in my Ubuntu 6.10 with Gnome?01:56
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magicbronson_darius_: also, *the link quality is 0*01:56
AnRkeydabaR: so it's sudo for gnome...01:56
ehmnI have 2.6.17-10-generic now01:56
un_operateurAnRkey, the other way around ..01:56
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kitcheAnRkey: sudo is for command line programs01:56
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lightupadam: ahh, sorry I'd been reading the hda bit.  I have hdb1 in FAT16, hdb2 in extended and hdb5 in FAT32.  hdb2 is the big one and I assume what I want01:56
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un_operateurAnRkey, gk* from gnome01:56
AnRkeyi c, thanks01:57
adamhlightup: No, it's just a "container" of sorts.01:57
darius_magicbronson_: the link quality is just what's believed to be reported.  You either have layer 2 or you do not.  Per your tcpdump, you appear to have layer 2.  Did you specify an interface when running tcpdump?01:57
adamhlightup: hdb5 is *within* hdb2.01:57
adamhlightup: And if you were to create more partitions, they would be hdb6, hdb7, etc... and they would also be *within* hdb2.01:57
magicbronson_darius_: no! i should have01:57
lightupadamh: ok that's all good.  but hdb2 is a fair bit larger than hdb5 so could there be more inside it?01:58
darius_magicbronson_: please try that again.01:58
magicbronson_darius_: "tcpdump -i wlan0" is outputting a lot01:58
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adamhlightup: Yes, you'd have to add more partitions or resize hdb5.01:58
lightupadamh: shall i try mounting 6 and up?01:58
dabaRcody_: as a wild guess...try installing libswt3.1-gtk-java01:58
EuphidimeWhat's the best file system to use for a boot partition01:58
adamhlightup: Oh, they don't exist.01:58
EuphidimeI'm just putting grub on it01:58
j0sh0could someone please tell me what " RX invalid nwid" means in output from iwconfig???01:58
exsAnyone running windows under vmware in ubuntu with network (internet) support?.. I'm currently trying to use the NAT method but it's not working.01:58
darius_magicbronson_: could you PM me a sample?01:58
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adamhlightup: It *could* be that the partitions were deleted (or the drive was corrupted), in which case if you can correctly create the partitions as they were (exactly) before, you can mount them.01:59
un_operateurdarius_, just out of curiosity -- are both interfaces assigned IP addresses in the same subnet?01:59
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darius_un_operateur: yes01:59
cody_dabaR, any guesses are worth trying01:59
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darius_un_operateur looks that way from the tcpdump01:59
darius_er01:59
darius_netstat01:59
cypruserIn the Synaptic Package Manager, what's the difference between marking a package for removal and marking it for complete removal?01:59
chrisg0619gaten: I see "Error opening /dev/wacom: Invalid argument" and messages like that for about a page.  Then, later on, I see "Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF," "/OTF," "/CID."  Then, "Synaptics DeviceOff called."  That's the (END) of the log.01:59
adamhlightup: (without formatting, which would erase the data from disk)01:59
cody_dabaR, i installed that but it uninstalled eclipse in the process01:59
darius_un_operateur: which makes it extra hard :)01:59
dabaRcypruser: it removes its config files as well.01:59
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dabaRcody_: for real?01:59
cody_ya02:00
lightupadamh: how would I go about doing that?  As I'm sure you can tell I'm fairly new, I've been on Linux about a year and I'm trying to salvage some files for a friend that he can't replace02:00
un_operateurdarius_, that anomalous setup is contributing to the problem02:00
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magicbronson_darius_: how's that look?02:00
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darius_un_operateur: I do it at home all the time though02:00
Music_ShufflePssh.  'New' doesn't mean much after a while, you can learn as much as you want to ^_^02:00
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adamhlightup: Hrm. A good idea would be to do a Google search. You're looking for a bootable CD which runs Linux and is made for this type of thing.02:00
darius_magicbronson_: are you sure this is wlan0?02:00
gatenchrisg0619:  ok, ignore the wacom stuff. that font stuff might be the problem.02:00
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chrisg0619gaten: Hmm...any possible fixes?02:01
darius_magicbronson_: it seems like that ssh session should be over the wired link right now02:01
un_operateurdarius_, I know, it's acceptable but not good practice tho -- because you always confuse the kernel with strange routing table entries02:01
magicbronson_darius_: that's what i got with "tcpdump -i wlan0"02:01
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magicbronson_darius_: why do you think it seems like that?02:01
lightupI take it I can't just do it with a live cd?02:01
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adamhlightup: This type of bootable-CD-only Linux distro will contain a program which finds deleted partitions (and deleted files on FAT32 drives too, probably) -- and it'll help you recover them02:01
LjLadamh: what, restoring partitions? the ubuntu CD should do, gpart is probably a program worth trying on it02:01
reiatzui'm trying to download the C manual pages on ubuntu02:01
dabaRcody_: show me that output on a pastebin, please.02:01
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gatenchrisg0619:  sry, i really dont know on ubuntu. if this had happened on my slack box, i would reinstall the xfont server, but i dont know if ubuntu even uses that02:01
LjLreiatzu: manpages-dev02:01
adamhLjL: Oh, really? Didn't know that. I always went for custom distros02:01
reiatzunice02:02
darius_magicbronson_: well, you're saying that routing isn't working over the wireless link .. so why is your ssh session successful02:02
lightupadamh: Ok I'll hunt around.  Thanks for all your help.02:02
reiatzuthanks02:02
cody_dabaR, which output are you looking for?02:02
adamhlightup: np. Good luck :)02:02
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chrisg0619gaten: should i just reinstall ubuntu?02:02
darius_un_operateur: I understand.  He's in a remote situation however02:02
adamhlightup: Remind your friend to make more frequent backups in the future :).02:02
magicbronson_darius_: because it's plugged in to the router via ethernet cable too!02:02
LjLadamh: well, the custom distros will probably have that sort of software shipped on the CD, but then you can easily install new software on the ubuntu CD as well. there's probably some MS-DOS based disks/CDs that could be tried as well, if the Linux-based solutions fail02:02
reiatzubrb02:02
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lightupadamh: will do02:03
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darius_magicbronson_: right, but is you ssh session over wired ethernet or the 802.11 link?02:03
gatenchrisg0619:  i wouldn't jump to that conclusion yet. ask soem ppl on here more advanced w/ ubuntu than myself. also, just reinstalling x might be better than wiping the while system,02:03
darius_magicbronson_: or switch between both (I don't know what the correct behaviour is in linux).02:03
chrisg0619gaten: how would I do that?  in case you haven't noticed, I'm a bit new to all these things...02:03
un_operateurmagicbronson_, is there a reason why you should have both connected, wired and wireless, why not use either/or?02:03
adamhLjL: yeah. The last time I did this sort of thing I used a distro custom-made for the job. It's great, you boot up quickly and it says, "type XXXXX to find deleted partitions; type YYYYY to find deleted files; etc".02:03
Ha1Alrighty. I need to get a plugin for gaim that a friend wrote for me, called hal-plugin.pl. I think, from the general state of /usr/lib/gaim, it needs to be in .so format, whatever that is. How?02:03
darius_magicbronson_: but if you have a tcp session over the wireless link, why would it die when the wired ethernet is pulled02:03
Music_Shufflechrisg0619, there are usually ways to avoid flushing the entire install.02:04
adamhLjL: All it is is a couple of extra tiny programs on a plain Linux distro, of course02:04
LjLadamh: great... unless it's so great that it does the wrong thing without even asking ;)02:04
adamhLjL: But it's nice that it tells me what to do ;)02:04
gatenchrisg0619:  like i said, ask someone of the more knowledgeable ppl here.02:04
adamhLjL: Depends on the distro, I suppose :)02:04
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reiatzu!uname -a02:04
un_operateurdarius_, probably because the route back to the source is via the wired connection -- lesser metric (path of least resistance)02:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uname -a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:04
adamhLjL: I forget which one I used.02:04
adamhah well02:04
chrisg0619Music_Shuffle: so what would you suggest?02:04
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Music_ShuffleI missed your issue, but...very few issues demanda complete reinstall.02:05
Music_Shuffle>.>02:05
gatenreiatzu:  try 'man uname' in your terminal02:05
reiatzugaten: i know how to use uname ;)02:05
reiatzui'm using 'zinc' and accidentally switched terminals02:05
darius_un_operateur: so the router would be failing to cut-over on the return path when he unplugs the Ethernet?02:05
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reiatzugaten: thanks :)02:05
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chrisg0619Music_Shuffle: heh, the problem is that X won't load past the login.  The X log has a few errors about not finding fonts before "Synaptics DeviceOff called" and "(END)"02:06
christopheris there a utility for ubuntu like rc-update?02:06
gatenreiatzu:  oh, heh02:06
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LjLchristopher: update-rc.d?02:06
magicbronson_darius_: my ssh session is not over the wireless link02:06
christopheri want to stop ddclient from auto starting02:07
LjLUbotu, tell christopher about boot | christopher, see the private message from Ubotu02:07
Music_Shufflechrisg0619, have you tried to reinstall X?02:07
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magicbronson_darius_: if i have someone unplug the ethernet cable, i'd lose my conneciton02:07
chrisg0619Music_Shuffle: no, how would I go about doing that?02:07
Music_Shuffle!X02:07
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:07
lasindiHi all, I'm trying to get a Netgear WG111 v2 USB card working in Xubuntu 6.06. I've tried with ndiswrapper, but it doesn't appear to work even though the driver installs fine. I've also tried compiling the ieee80211 modules for the kernel, and they haven't produced any results. Any ideas on tricks I could try to get it working?02:07
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darius_magicbronson_: you pasted an ssh packet from tcpdump that you said came from the wlan0 interface02:07
Music_ShuffleErr, dunno if that tells you what you need.02:07
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Music_ShuffleLjL, how does one reinstall X? chrisg0619 needs help with it. >.>02:07
darius_magicbronson_: could you pastebin a larger sample?  curious if it's traffic from both directions02:08
jake_hello, I am trying ti install edgy on an old compaq deskpro en sff and I can't get the cd  to boot can anyone help?02:08
un_operateurdarius_, the "router" in this case would be the SSH server itself, two interfaces,so yea, it's failing to fail-over to the wireless link if the wired one fails02:08
gaten!gfxboot02:08
starcomo conectarme con un chat msn02:08
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ubotugfxboot: bootlogo creator for gfxboot compliant boot loaders. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.23-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB02:08
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LjLMusic_Shuffle: well, strictly speaking, "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg", but i doubt that will be of much use02:08
alex-weej!boot02:08
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto02:08
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Music_ShuffleLjL, I dunno, I'm about to gogo PS2 with my brother, so I can't help him anymore. :X02:08
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LjLMusic_Shuffle, chrisg0619: perhaps what you want is really dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:09
chrisg0619MusicShuffle: lol, have fun, thanks for the assistance02:09
noelferreira_hi people. how can i see my notebook model in edgy?02:09
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gatenjake_:  does it boot at all or does it act like the cd doesnt exist?02:09
un_operateurmagicbronson_, here's a question for you -- when you SSH to the IP address of the SSH server's wired interface (wth0 or whatever) how can you be guaranteed that all traffic is passed throught the wired connection??02:09
chrisg0619LjL: tried that already; should I do "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg"?02:09
Slart!es | star02:09
ubotustar: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:09
Tomcat_noelferreira: You can't usually... but you should have some warranty stickers or something on the bottom side.02:09
Ha1`Alrighty. I need to get a plugin for gaim that a friend wrote for me, called hal-plugin.pl. I need to put it into /usr/lib/gaim, which has been done. Still no ressult. I think, from the general state of /usr/lib/gaim, it needs to be in .so format, whatever that is. How?02:09
kitchenoelferreira: you can't but the serial number on your laptop will tell you what model you have02:09
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Slartstar: was that correct? you speak spanish?02:09
LjLchrisg0619: it won't hurt, though i doubt it will help02:09
un_operateurs/wth0/eth0/02:09
magicbronson_darius_: http://pastebin.ca/29503602:09
chrisg0619LjL: why don't you think it will help?02:09
DBOun_operateur, because connections cant be shared over multiple interfaces02:09
specialbuddyhow do I change the name of my workgroup?02:09
jake_the computer boots, but it won't boot the cd, I know its a good disk because I have used it many times02:09
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noelferreiramy computer is a targa. but it is built from MSI02:10
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noelferreiraand i needed MSI model. do you understand?02:10
un_operateurDBO, well they can, but there is no guarantee that load-sharing happens02:10
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LjLchrisg0619: because that's just a metapackage, or little more. tell me the whole story please - how did the problem arise etc02:10
jake_I have enable cd booting in the bios.02:10
darius_magicbronson_: you are ssh'ing from the mindspring source?02:10
nilslJag?02:10
gatenjake_:  have u tried another bootable disk of some sort?02:10
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_leon_does anyone know where postgres installs to by default? I thought it would be /usr/local/pgsql02:11
DBOun_operateur, not a single connection instance, load sharing is different02:11
DBOun_operateur, you can load share a single ssh connection02:11
darius_magicbronson_: in which case, you have a port rule on the router to send to a specific IP.02:11
jake_ypu, I have tried quite a few02:11
magicbronson_darius_: yes02:11
kitche_leon_: might be in /opt or /usr/bin that's two places I would look first02:11
Ha1Alrighty. I need to get a plugin for gaim that a friend wrote for me, called hal-plugin.pl. I think I need to put it into /usr/lib/gaim, which has been done. Still no result. I think, from the general state of /usr/lib/gaim, it needs to be in .so format, whatever that is. How?02:11
darius_magicbronson_: you're going to drop because the router is looking for the IP on the wired network02:11
_leon_kitche: cheers I'll check02:11
gatenjake_:  hmm, my only suggestion would be then to try and burn another iso. redownload then burn02:11
magicbronson_darius_: it's sending it to 192.168.2.250, which is what the computer's eth0 is set to pull02:11
jake_the computer came from an office setting, is there a jumper inside which might cause it to ot boot the cdrom?02:12
chrisg0619LjL: well, i downloaded a bunch of updates for Ubuntu 6.10, then I uninstalled two things, Evolution and OpenOffice.org.  I think I screwed up Evolution or something, because after that, I couldn't access "Fonts" from the system prefs.  I reinstalled a few packages to try to fix stuff, and then I restarted the computer.  Now, this.02:12
kitcheHa1: gaim doesn't understand perl scripts to me that sounds like irssi script02:12
un_operateurDBO, it is not a "single connection" -- it's two interfaces with IP addresses in the same subnet, both with default route's to the same default gateway02:12
Ha1It doesnt do perl scripts? Dear god.02:12
jake_I know the iso is good02:12
eraccIs there a DVD ISO image for 6.10? I have been looking around on the ubuntu web site and searching the web for a couple of hours and can't find one. I did find one for 6.06 but not 6.10.02:12
darius_magicbronson_: very difficult to troubleshoot when you lose visibility at cutover02:12
LjLchrisg0619: i'd try a "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop". that will install evolution and ooo back again, but at least you'd make sure you have all the needed packages installed02:13
magicbronson_darius_: i know... this sucks02:13
DBOun_operateur, doesnt matter at all, a single connection, a single TCP stream if you will, cannot be shared over multiple interfaces02:13
DBOperiod02:13
goblesanyone have a good torrent client or is utorrent in wine the best solution?02:13
chrisg0619LjL: thanks, I'll try that; be back in a few02:13
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DBOun_operateur, just like you cant load share a single download (traditional, not bittorrent or the like which feature multiple connections) over many interfaces, a ssh connection cant be shared either02:14
un_operateurDBO, why in the world not? as long as both connecting devices understand IP-load sharing, TCP can be multiplexed too02:14
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darius_magicbronson_: if you can originate traffic from the host with the source IP on the wireless interface, it should help to remotely troubleshoot02:14
LjLwasn't TCP connection oriented last time?02:15
MTecknologyis it possible to pause ubuntu install right after it loads the kernel?02:15
LjLMTecknology: dunno, perhaps try ScrollLock or Break02:15
LameBMXMTecknology, hit the pause break key02:15
LameBMXlol02:15
darius_magicbronson_: can you 'ping -I <wireless IP> <internet host>' ?02:15
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LjLyeah, Pause too :P02:15
MTecknologyLameBMX, nope, neither worked02:16
DBOun_operateur, the only way to do it would to have both interfaces sharing the same IP and responding virtually the same interface on linux itself (both called eth0) and having the hardware itself on the other end also support the same feature set to essentially share two interfaces as one02:16
gaten!inetd02:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about inetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:16
LameBMXhmmm ...02:16
HymnToLife!info inetd02:16
LameBMXthen i dont know02:16
ubotuPackage inetd does not exist in any distro I know02:16
HymnToLifefunny02:16
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novadoes not allow me to create a /usr/java02:17
nova?02:17
LameBMXi know it worked on mine .. and i somehow got stuck in a step situation where i had to hit pause for each action to occur ... took forever to boot that time02:17
magicbronson_darius_: you mean "ping -l 192.168.2.3 <???>" from my computer here or from the machine in question?02:17
darius_magicbronson_: the machine in question02:17
DBOun_operateur, however this is getting rather off topic, your question is how can you be sure, and the answer is because thats just not how things work02:17
magicbronson_darius_: so can it ping itself?02:17
magicbronson_darius_: also -l takes a number02:17
darius_magicbronson_: -I02:18
darius_magicbronson_: ping a host on the internet02:18
novaIt does not allow me to make a folder java in /usr  I need a /usr/java direc02:18
novahelp?02:18
magicbronson_oh, that's a capital i!02:18
kitchenova: sudo mkdir /usr/java02:19
LameBMXnova, sudo mkdir /usr/java02:19
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Tomcat_!java | nova02:19
ubotunova: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository02:19
noiesmohow can i find out how/why my system may have rebooted itself, overnite whilst doing some downloads02:19
un_operateurDBO, AFAIK, linux responds to arp requests on segments that really have nothing to do with those IP/MAC addresses -- eg. 172.16.2.1 [box1]  10.0.0.1 <- - > 10.0.0.2 [box2]  192.168.2.1  -- box 2 can ping 172.16.2.1 regardless of whether box1 has routing/ip forwarding setup02:19
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magicbronson_"ping -I 192.168.2.3 google.com" -> "3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2001ms"02:19
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magicbronson_darius_: that looks good!02:19
darius_magicbronson_: then 'tcpdump -i wlan0 icmp' while doing it02:19
Tomcat_noiesmo: Check /var/log/syslog02:19
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Tomcat_noiesmo: If it's earlier than the first timestamp, try /var/log/syslog.002:19
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noiesmoTomcat_, thanks looking now02:20
killsythehey all. does anyone know where wine stores files after running a win installer?02:20
un_operateurDBO, and since we have a couple of unknowns here -- the exact physical route of packets across these two interfaces (wired and wireless) is pretty unsure -- which was why i asked him how he could be sure, in an effort to probably make him realize02:20
LameBMXgeez ... 2sec ping on google .. what are you out on the moon or something02:20
interfeari have given up with ubuntu cuz there is no way i can install it02:20
interfeargrrr02:20
LameBMXoh wait .. there are still dial-up left in this country eh02:20
jbroomeno, we have reliable comms to the moon. :P02:20
interfearcan't i upgrade from 6.06 -> 6.10?02:20
DBOun_operateur, but you are providing that both interfaces are using different IP's02:21
magicbronson_darius_: http://pastebin.ca/29504202:21
kitcheinterfear: yes02:21
DBOand you are sshing tot he wired IP02:21
magicbronson_darius_: also looks good!02:21
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interfearkitche: would it be any different than just doing a clean 6.10 install?02:21
kitcheinterfear: gksu update-manager -c is the official way to do it02:21
un_operateurDBO, i am not doing anything .. magicbronson_ is02:21
darius_magicbronson_: 192.168.2.3 is the IP on your wireless interface?02:21
refus3dyou need to install the gsku warpper interfear02:21
magicbronson_darius_: yes02:21
interfeari can only get into x through 6.06's safe graphics mode, 6.10 nothing works for me..02:22
interfeari think linux just hates my samsung syncmaster 914v lcd panel02:22
darius_magicbronson_: huh..02:22
interfearall dists seem to give it a problem02:22
novahow do I make a file paste into /usr/java  ?02:22
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DBOun_operateur, ahhhhh perhaps I misunderstand the situation then, but if the interfaces have a unique IP each, and you SSH to the wired one, that is the route it will use.  You can easily verify via iptables using some logging02:22
HymnToLifeinterfear, or more likely the other way around02:22
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interfearHymnToLife: heh yes02:22
novahow do I make a file paste into /usr/java  ?02:23
novabin file02:23
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refus3dnova cd to the /02:23
HymnToLifenova, cp /path/to/file.bin /usr/java02:23
HymnToLifeas root02:23
refus3dthen rmdir02:23
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darius_magicbronson_: might want to try the same thing with "telnet -b .." to confirm that TCP is being allows in both directions on the wireless internet02:23
novaok the bin file is on my desktop so whats the exact command?02:23
darius_magicbronson_: interface02:23
HymnToLifenova, sudo cp ~/Desktop/filename.bin /usr/java02:24
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novathank you02:24
un_operateurDBO, whether SSH will be directed over the wired link depends on whether the router/switch directs layer2 traffic over that link or not -- if a recent CAM table update preferred to keep the wireless link's MAC address in an ARP update, it's likely that link will be used instead02:24
un_operateurDBO, but yes, i agree on logging... its the only definite way to find out02:25
DBOok I see where we are getting too02:25
DBOyes in that kind of setup you could have that issue02:25
Tomcat_nova: What are you trying to do generally? There are probably better ways.02:25
DBOun_operateur, I thought we were speaking of a single ssh session which would have originated on the wired interface02:25
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SebbohTomcat_, 'probably'?02:26
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Sebboh:)\02:26
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DBOun_operateur, one could easily force iptables to block port 22 on wlan002:26
magicbronson_darius_: what would that whole telnet command be? sorry02:26
darius_magicbronson_: I suspect that either the system or the router is still trying to send packets over the wired interface.  If practical, you could try rebootin gthe router after the wired interface has been unplugged.  Also, may want to have the remote end disable the wired port (instead of just unplugging) to test02:27
Tomcat_Sebboh: Well he's talking about /usr/java and a bin file... he *probably* wants to install java, and there's 1) a package and 2) a debian-way(tm) to manually install Java :)02:27
chrisg0619LjL: it works, and i'm chatting on IRC from ubuntu--w00t!  now, how do i uninstall openoffice.org and evolution without driving my computer nuts?02:27
un_operateurDBO, IIRC I think it is the machine with the two interfaces that is also the SSH server -- but the point i am making is, multiple IP addresses in the same subnet assigned to different interfaces on the same machine is almost always a bad idea02:27
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darius_magicbronson: "telnet -b 192.168.2.3 www.google.com 80"02:27
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darius_magicbronson: then "tcpdump -i wlan0 port 80"02:27
Sebbohtomcat_, I'm with you all the way on that. =)02:27
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kitchechrisg0619: well it'll be hard to remove evolution since gnome depends on it02:27
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LjLchrisg0619, well, how did you uninstall them last time?02:28
chrisg0619kitche: it does?  I see...02:28
magicbronson_darius_: "Connected to va-in-f104.google.com."02:28
chrisg0619LjL: package manager.02:28
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DBOun_operateur, it will be a bigger issue to the server than to the router, the router does not know that they are even the same computer, unique MAC and unique IP = no CAM list conflict02:28
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Tomcat_Sebboh: :D02:28
chrisg0619kitche: so can I uninstall OpenOffice.org without ruining Gnome?02:28
darius_magicbronson_: tcpdump it to verify that it all went over the wireless interface02:28
kitchechrisg0619: yeah you can remove OpenOffice02:28
noelferreira_there's any command to see my notebook model?02:28
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chrisg0619kitche, LjL: thanks for all your help; I really appreciate it!02:29
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weemhow long is installing ubuntu from the disc suposed to take?02:29
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DBOweem, anywhere from half an hour to an hour and a half depending on the computer02:29
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LjLchrisg0619, i'm not exactly sure what packages can be safely removed... but i guess openoffice.org-writer and friends should be safe to remove02:29
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weemDBO oh ok02:30
SubMOAHelp! I can't Top-Kill a process!02:30
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refus3dweem, 12 days or so?02:30
weemcus its been like 5 lol02:30
SubMOAoh wait02:30
SubMOAan idea just dawned on me02:30
weemrefus3d .....02:30
DBOweem, yeah thats a problem02:30
magicbronson_darius_: looks like it02:30
magicbronson_darius_: so this is good news02:30
refus3dweem, took me 12 days to get it working02:30
magicbronson_darius_: should i be worried about the 0 link quality?02:30
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weemits only been like 15 minutes but the top and bottem bars froze02:30
chrisg0619LjL: all right; I'll do that.02:30
weemcan still click the two icons on my desktok tho02:30
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weemdesktop02:30
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darius_magicbronson_: well.. you may want to try pinging with a large payload.  but I think it's just a driver issue (of not reporting correctly)02:31
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magicbronson_darius_: cool, hope so02:31
Renan_s2Hello, how can I increase the maximum number of open files? Some applications are complaining about "not enough files"02:31
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magicbronson_darius_: thanks for your help02:31
darius_magicbronson_: since half of you ssh session is going over the wireless link now - I don't think it's a problem02:31
SubMOAHAHA! I prevail!! nevermind :O)02:31
MTecknologyWhen I boot into Ubuntu install I have the options presented to me. I select the install option and it goes. It gives me a few errors and then goes into install asking me for a language. I try to select English but my keyboard has quit working.02:31
magicbronson_darius_: nice02:31
MTecknologyPS2 kayboard02:31
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weemDBO - so even though the top and bottem two bars are frozen, should i just keep it running?02:31
darius_magicbronson_: try having your remote hands disable the wired interface on the PC (this should tear down the local route, etc)02:32
DBOweem, what step is it on?02:32
darius_magicbronson_: of course, they'll need to be capable of bringing it back up02:32
weem5 out of 602:32
weemand i minimized it02:32
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interfearWhen I boot up 6.10 the bootup screen (where you see the ubuntu progress bar) looks skewed and only grey in color, could this be an Xorg problem or something else?02:32
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weemnow it's frozen but i can still run the two things off the desktop02:32
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StingRayHi. Can somebody tell me how to restrict a user to gnome?02:33
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DBOweem, how long has it been running?02:33
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weemlike 10 minutes02:33
refus3dStrider,02:33
DBOweem, just wait02:33
weemkk02:33
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interfearmy bootup screen looks like this..02:33
interfearhttp://librarian.launchpad.net/4922303/22-10-06_1325.jpg02:33
DBOStingRay, how hard do you want to make it to get around?02:33
interfeari hear its a common problem now02:33
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StingRayenough DBO02:34
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DBOStingRay, in most situations it would of course still be possible to get around using a console, is that ok?02:34
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StingRayauth requisite pam_succeed_if.so user ingroup <GROUP NAME>02:34
StingRaytried this ... :(02:35
StingRayok DBO02:35
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DBOStingRay, are you using gdm or kdm?02:35
un_operateurStingRay, by "restrict a user to gnome" i suppose you mean prohibit a user from changing their window manager/desktop environment to KDE or XFCE, etc?02:35
StingRayboth02:35
weemDBO - do i even need to install this? i am only DLing to run 1 app then never use it again lol02:36
nazguldamn ... where was the location again of the .desktop files that show up in gdm as sessions?02:36
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DBOStingRay, how are you using both...02:36
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DBOStingRay, you can only use one or the other02:36
gatenhow do you run inetd? i see no script nor daemon02:36
StingRaynope. I don't want to allow the user to login at all to gnome02:36
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DBOweem, what are you looking to do?02:36
Shocka311Can anyone tell me how to see how much ram I have02:36
StingRaynot simultaniosly of course DBO02:36
weemrun Airsnort02:36
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nazgulShocka311: in a terminal, type "free -m"02:37
DBOweem, get backtrack (live CD)02:37
Tomcat_Shocka311: free -m in console, or open gnome-system-monitor02:37
StingRayI want to restrict some of the users to login to X via gdm02:37
weemDBO - I have it...isnt working out02:37
magicfingerhello i still cant get this ubuntu disk to boot during start up any ideas?02:37
weemso Airsnort would be easier02:37
un_operateurStingRay, make sure root owns their .xinitrc file and set it to be read-only02:37
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DBOweem, unfortunate, tried knoppix with a security flavor?02:37
weemidk what that is02:37
AscYou can run multiple window managers simultaneously by executing /usr/bin/gdmflexisserver02:37
Shocka311which line tells me the ram?02:37
DBOStingRay, that is going to be more complex than expected02:37
weemcant i just DL airsnort when running ubuntu off the CD02:38
nazgulShocka311: beneath "total"02:38
StingRayun_operateur, won't this affect kde also for this user?02:38
DBOStingRay, the easiest way would be of course to limit their access to the .desktop files (users who cant read the file wont have it listed)02:38
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un_operateurStingRay, get a user to select a WM .. after they have done that, lock their .xinitrc files02:38
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un_operateurs/files/file/02:39
weemDBO - cant i just DL airsnort when running ubuntu off the CD02:39
nix_ferretWhat C++ program would you folks recommend for a n00b that runs ubuntu?02:39
DBOweem, yes02:39
Shocka311it says 218 mem and 431 swap, which one is my ram02:39
weemso should i just turn off my comp now and reboot from CD?02:39
StingRayun_operateur, sorry for asking but what is WM02:39
kitcheShocka311: the mem02:39
DBOStingRay, if you have few users xinitrc is easy enough, but that requires manual selection02:39
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un_operateurStingRay, Window Manager02:39
DBOStingRay, WM == gnome or KDE02:39
Shocka311thanks02:39
reiatzuWindow manager, StingRay02:39
nazgulShocka311: "mem".02:39
StingRaythanks DBO02:39
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DBOStingRay, how many users?02:40
nix_ferretI tried anjuta but it keeps crashing.02:40
weemDBO - so should i just turn off my comp now and reboot from CD?02:40
killsythehow do i show hidden files?02:40
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kitchekillsythe: in what in terminal it's just ls -a02:40
StingRaynot much only 3 at the moment. Can you tell me if this will affect also freenx :)02:40
nix_ferretkillsythe, in the gui or in command line?02:40
killsythein the gui02:40
Tomcat_Nah... Gnome & KDE are no WMs.02:40
DBOStingRay, ok here is how I would do it02:40
neurotechHow can I play embedded movies in Firefox that have the ID "mplayer2"02:40
nix_ferretctrl+h02:40
DBOStingRay, I qualify that with the note that I tend to look for overly complex solutions that scale well02:41
un_operateurTomcat_, are they webservers? :>02:41
nix_ferretor view>hidden files02:41
kitcheun_operateur: theya re actually DE (desktop environments)02:41
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killsythehow do i navigate to a hidden directory in terminal02:41
nix_ferretAny of you ladies do C++?02:41
weemDBO - so should i just turn off my comp now and reboot from CD?02:41
_Shadowfax_is there any bluetooth phone program in ubuntu?02:41
kitchekillsythe: cd dir02:41
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DBOStingRay, in your /usr/share/xsessions dir there are a bunch of .desktop files02:41
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DBOweem, yes02:41
StingRayDBO, I am all ears02:41
nazgulkillsythe: "cd .hiddendirname"02:41
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neurotechHow can I play embedded movies in Firefox that have the ID "mplayer2"?02:42
nix_ferretkillsythe, just type "cd /folder/folder/folder02:42
un_operateurkitche, they are also window managers since they control things like title bars, decoarations, title-bar-actions, locations, dimensions, shading, etc etc02:42
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kitcheun_operateur: well metacity does that alogn with kwin02:42
DBOStingRay, in there chown the gnome related .desktop files to root:gnomeusers02:42
killsythehm, i checked off "show hidden and backup files" in file browser and i'm not getting anything02:42
DBOStingRay, in there chown the kde related .desktop files to root:kdeusers02:43
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DBOStingRay, then set those files to have the permission of 640 (so they are NOT world readable)02:43
nix_ferretneurotech, I may be wrong but you need the mplayer plug-in that launches them in totem02:43
StingRayThank you DBO. I am starting right away02:43
DBOthen you make 2 groups, one called, gnomeusers, and one called kdeusers02:43
DBO(actually do that first)02:43
neurotechnix_ferret: Where can I get that?02:43
neurotech!mplayer02:43
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile02:43
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.02:43
DBOStingRay, assign users to those groups based upon your preference02:43
killsythealso, when i try to navigate to the hidden folder in terminal, it tells me "no such file or folder", although ls -a did return it02:44
DBOand those are the only desktops they will have access to02:44
killsytheany ideas?02:44
StingRayI thought finally I will be dealing with groups again ;)02:44
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DBOStingRay, I like doing things this way02:44
DBOStingRay, make sure to add yourself to those groups too or else you wont have access02:44
DBOStingRay, note that this will NOTE effect startx, only gdm and kdm02:44
nix_ferretneurotech, click the 'add ons' in the firefox menu and then click get plug-ins in firefox. Takes you right there02:45
StingRaythere is always a console :)02:45
DBOs/NOTE/NOT/02:45
PreservedHi, I am hoping someone is willing to help me solve my problem with my graphics card? I am an unfortunate owner of an ATI card that just doesn't wanna function.02:45
StingRaytty i mean02:45
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killsytheoh nevermind, i got it...thanks for your help02:45
nix_ferretneurotech, Tools>Add Ons>Extentions "Get Extentions"02:45
nix_ferretOk, so, no one does the C++ business here?02:46
reiatzu?02:46
reiatzubusiness?02:46
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darius_nix_ferret: vi and gcc02:46
nix_ferretWhat C++ program would you folks recommend for a n00b that runs ubuntu?02:46
darius_nix_ferret: or check out Eclipse02:47
nix_ferretdarius_, old-school. You use a text pad to code? Damn dude, that's hard core.02:47
PreservedSo I would be guessing that to get a ATI graphic card to work under Ubuntu you have to be really lucky?02:47
DBOStingRay, mmmm actually because gdm and kdm run as root, this may not work...02:47
DBOStingRay, I will have to look and see exactly how those scripts get executed, they might actually get executed by root02:47
noiesmoHello All.  If I have dual boot system am I able to use say vmware to run my windows install whilst in linux or do I need to reinstall windows thru vmware?02:47
nix_ferretI "guess" that is the preferred way to do it.02:47
StingRayAt first I thought manipulating the /etc/init.d/gdm will work setting to 640... but...02:48
darius_nix_ferret: cannot deal with it any other way :)02:48
bruenignoiesmo, you would need to reinstall through vmware, or you can just restart the computer and pick the windows partition02:48
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DBOStingRay, no thats run as root02:48
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StingRayI see02:48
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noiesmobruenig, k will reinstall02:48
nix_ferretdarius_, I'll check out eclipse, thx. I know, my bro is a hard-core programmer and he tells me to use notepad. Dunno, guess I just a wuss.02:48
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StingRayI say this DBO: http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/FAQ_43_9247.shtm02:49
kwoodcould anyone tell me why ubuntu when trying to resize a disk freezes and why if i try to edit partition manually also freezes up.02:49
StingRayBut it is not helping me, probably because of the root02:49
darius_nix_ferret: http://www.eclipse.org/home/categories/languages.php02:49
nix_ferretnice. thx.02:49
StingRayI saw I meant, DBO02:49
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DBOStingRay, that would restrict gnome access to a set of users and disallow X access all together to everyone else02:50
DBOStingRay, thats also the proper way to do things =P02:50
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kwoodwouild there be an error log of it?02:51
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chrissturmnix_ferret: http://www.eclipse.org/callisto/c-dev.php02:51
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nix_ferretYou guys are all right...02:51
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weemDBO02:53
DBOweem02:53
weemit saids to install, i gotta do ./configure, make, makeinstall02:53
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weemhow's that done02:54
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DBOweem, just do sudo apt-get install airsnort02:54
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weemlol02:55
weemwtf02:55
kitcheweem: your way was to compile it from source02:55
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nix_ferretweem, it's already in the repository built for ubuntu, no need to recompile it unless you need something special02:55
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nix_ferretI believe the saying is "whoop, there it is..."02:56
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stickcivi need a bit of help installing ubuntu02:57
weemwell02:57
bruenigstickciv, specifically...02:57
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weemwhen i double click airsnort.exe it saids cannot open.....no application suitable for automatic installation is available for handling this kind of file02:58
bruenigweem, .exe?02:58
nix_ferretlol weem02:58
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stickcivhere's the problem: when i boot fromt he cd and select the option to run the live cd, it does its loading thing, then gets to a screen saying that X server could not be started, because it isnt correctly configured02:58
nix_ferretthat's for windows02:58
PreservedCould somebody translate this?02:58
Preservedubuntu@ubuntu:~$ glxinfo02:58
Preservedname of display: :0.002:58
PreservedX Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)02:58
Preserved  Major opcode of failed request:  142 (GLX)02:58
Preserved  Minor opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GLXCreateContext)02:58
Preserved  Serial number of failed request:  1602:58
Preserved  Current serial number in output stream:  1702:58
PreservedSorry02:58
kitche!paste02:58
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:58
bruenig!paste02:58
chrissturmwhy is cyrus-imapd in universe? is there a imap sever in main?02:58
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imbecileokay you guys i have a question.. can i install kde apps on gnome desktop?? i feel so stupid asking this02:58
bruenigimbecile, yep02:59
imbecilenice02:59
stickcivI try doing sude dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:59
weemyeah02:59
nix_ferretimbecile, yes you can02:59
kitcheimbecile: yes they will pull kde also probably02:59
weemundler the folder "bin"02:59
weemit has that02:59
stickcivi blast through that yet it still gives me an error02:59
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nix_ferretimbecile, don't feel stupid, I just asked that last week02:59
imbecilethanks you guys02:59
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bruenighmmm, nix_ferret assumes he isn't stupid....02:59
imbecilenix_ferret, hehe02:59
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PreservedCould somebody please translate this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39256/02:59
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imbecilethanks you guys, ya'll rock03:00
nix_ferretbruenig, lol, nice. The more I learn the more stupid I feel.03:00
stickcivcould someone help me?03:00
apokryphos!helpme03:00
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:00
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weem...so how do i run the program?03:00
stickcivhere's the problem: when i boot fromt he cd and select the option to run the live cd, it does its loading thing, then gets to a screen saying that X server could not be started, because it isnt correctly configured03:00
stickcivI try doing sude dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:00
stickcivi blast through that yet it still gives me an error03:00
kitcheweem after you get it from the repo you just open up a terminal and type airsnort03:00
Dimensions can some one help ... i can ssh into remote pc but when i am transfering file i get Permission Denied Publickey lost connection03:00
stickcivFatal server Error: could not find screen03:00
bruenigweem, delete all of that stuff you downloaded, then open up a terminal and do "sudo apt-get install airsnort"03:00
kitchestickciv: the error would help pastebin it please03:01
bruenigweem, after that does its thing, do man airsnort, should tell you what you can do with it.03:01
nix_ferretweem, you can't really. Go to the terminal and do a sudo apt-get install airsnort03:01
ubuntu_i have ubuntu 6.10 installed and i installed openfiler to try it out for a nas and it corrupted my grub how do i go about restoring/reinstalling the grub03:01
stickcivWell, here's the second part of my problem, the computer now refuses to boot off cd's stat. No cd will boot it, even though its configured in the BIOS to boot off the cd03:02
weemi did03:02
weemand it saids03:02
stickcivit just goes straight to the HD03:02
weemE: Couldn't find package airsnort03:02
bruenig!info airsnort03:02
ubotuairsnort: WLAN sniffer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7e-1.1 (edgy), package size 49 kB, installed size 180 kB03:02
bruenigweem, you need to enable universe, what version of ubuntu are you using and have you ever messed with your /etc/apt/sources.list?03:02
weem6.10 and no03:03
nix_ferretweem, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you need to enable the ubuntu universe03:03
PreservedUhm, wouldn't it be easier to do it with synaptic?03:03
weemall i wanna do is run this 1 thing lol03:03
weemdidnt mess with anything03:03
bruenigweem, ok open a terminal and copy and paste the following all of it:sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/edgy universe/edgy universe multiverse/g' -e 's/edgy-security universe/edgy-security universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install airsnort03:03
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weemjust botted from CD03:03
robtpcan someone tell me whats wrong with this: for (unsigned int i=0; i<=num; i++) {sum += i;}03:03
weemhaha03:03
weemok 1 sec03:03
nix_ferretyes, it would be. weem, to the bat-mobile, err...synaptic03:03
nix_ferretweem, WAIT! That formats your hard drive!03:04
kitchenix_ferret: ?03:04
chrissturmcan i tell apt-cache to search only packages in main?03:04
bruenigis nix_ferret saying my command formats the hard drive?03:04
nix_ferretjk03:05
Music_Shuffle...03:05
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robtpnevermind, btw03:05
vulcaniushas anyone installed gnome 2.2 with ubuntu yet?03:05
robtpvulcanius: 2.20?03:05
robtpvulcanius: because there was also a 2.2 :)03:05
ryanakcastupid question: I had found a script thingy for a borderless, menuless, transparent konsole/terminal centered right in the middle of my desktop, behind all windows 6-7 months ago... I can't seem to find it... anybody have a link?03:05
vulcaniusheh, meant 2.20, yes03:05
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weemkk bruenig i did that03:06
weemDLing now03:06
weemok it finished03:06
robtpvulcanius: isn't 2.17 the current unstable release?03:06
bruenigweem, do "man airsnort"03:06
Tomcat_robtp: Correct.03:07
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weemyeah it opened the manual03:07
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bruenigweem, so read it, figure out what you are doing and do it03:07
vulcanius.....i believe.....you may be correct03:08
robtpvulcanius: you can use garnome or jhbuild to build 2.17, or else upgrade to edgy03:08
imbecilehow do i install wireshark?03:08
robtperrr... feisty03:08
bruenig!info wireshark03:08
ubotuwireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.3a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 545 kB, installed size 1528 kB03:08
vulcaniuslol, i was about to say03:08
bruenigimbecile, have you enabled the universe repository?03:09
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vulcaniusrobtp, are you running feisty or edgy?03:09
imbecilebruenig, no how do i do that?03:09
nix_ferretimbecile, use the code above from bruenig except change airsnort to wireshark03:09
robtpvulcanius: edgy, i dont like surprises03:09
vulcaniuslol03:09
bruenigimbecile, run the following command, the entire thing: sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/edgy universe/edgy universe multiverse/g' -e 's/edgy-security universe/edgy-security universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wireshark03:10
imbecilebruenig, i'm using dapper drake03:10
bruenigimbecile, ok then do this: sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/dapper universe/dapper universe multiverse/g' -e 's/dapper-security universe/dapper-security universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install airsnort03:11
bruenigor with wireshark not airsnort03:11
imbecilebruenig thanks03:11
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imbecilethis installs repo's as well?03:11
bruenigimbecile, it enables all the ubuntu repos03:11
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imbecilebruenig, thanks03:12
vulcaniusman oh man I wish beryl had better multihead support03:12
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refus3d!ops03:13
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!03:13
apokryphosrefus3d: what?03:13
DBOyes?03:13
tonyyarussoHmmm?03:13
robhuh?03:13
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webmarenit's always nice to login in the middle of an argument03:14
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baxter_kylieHi. Can anyone tell me the name of the program that handles pdf-viewing in gnome?03:14
morghanphoenixGraphics problems glxinfo gives this:03:15
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morghanphoenixXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:15
morghanphoenixError: couldn't find RGB GLX visual03:15
Madpilotbaxter_kylie, evince03:15
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baxter_kylieMadpilot: Thank you!03:15
morghanphoenixany idea what's wrong here?03:15
nix_ferretbaxter_kylie, or adobe reader for *nix03:15
kitchemorghanphoenix: you can enable it with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:15
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morghanphoenixum, how many kilobytes is a 64MB video card?03:17
imbecilewhats the name of ubuntus package manager? I have used fc and am used to yum03:17
morghanphoenixI forgot the multiplier03:17
nix_ferreterr, 64x8000 ??03:17
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novahow do I install a cpkg file?03:18
Madpilotimbecile, apt, or apt-get/aptitude/Synaptic03:18
novacedega03:18
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imbecilemadpilot, thanks03:18
novahow do I install a cpkg file? from the desktop03:19
webmarenmorganphoenix MB = 1024KB03:19
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novahow do I install a cpkg file?03:19
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SoulChildYo i love Ubuntu03:20
novame 2 :)03:20
novahow do I install a cpkg file?03:20
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SoulChild***webmaren :D03:21
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novahow do I install a cpkg file?03:22
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webmarenlol greg_ got coronated hehe03:22
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webmarennova: if nobody answers, nobody has answer03:22
novasorry03:22
novathought they just did not give a damn03:22
webmarennova: please don't keep repeating the same question again and again03:22
novasorry03:22
Virtuallwhat is cpkg?03:23
novabeats me03:23
djm62Is banshee on ubuntu 6.10 with ~1300 files known for being quite slow (using up 100% CPU on changing from viewing "Music Library" to "ipod" for long enough to read a longish webpage?)03:23
novaits a file that cedega is on03:23
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Virtuall:03:24
Music_Shuffledjm62, Amarok isn't, neither is Quod Libre or RhythmBox, I would venture to guess that Banshee isn't either >.>03:24
djm62I've googled it, and tried removing ~.gnome2/banshee but with no effect03:24
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djm62Music_Shuffle: I used rhythmbox and it was absolutely fine, but I got a gift of an iPod- I'm still trying to calibrate my expectations of normal behaviour with one03:25
Music_Shuffle>.>?03:25
Music_ShuffleWhy Banshee?03:25
Music_ShuffleYou can sync with other programs.03:25
monArchand now discconect03:25
djm62I can sync wth gtkpod and banshee- if I can sync with anything else, I have no idea how to do it, hence moving from software I was pretty much happy with03:26
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novaok im back :)03:26
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MTecknologyis anybody in here extremely bored?03:26
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lubixMTecknology, did you ever get that keyboard working03:27
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MTecknologylubix, ya it was a BIOS thing03:27
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grzesiekPhi03:27
djm62assez bored03:27
squigglyi'd like to lubix your assfole03:27
MTecknologylubix, you bored?03:27
lubixsquiggly,03:27
MTecknologyby bored, i mean EXTREMELY03:27
lubixthat was uncalled for03:27
grzesiekPcan I find somebody  using beryl?03:27
lubixgrzesiekP, im using beryl03:27
Music_ShuffleHai?03:28
squigglywhere is chanserv03:28
MTecknologygrzesiekP, i do, probably can't help03:28
grzesiekPwhat vc you need for this candy?03:28
lubixVC?03:28
Music_ShuffleVC?03:28
squigglyDCC SEND FAGGOTDETECTOR 0 0 003:28
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Music_Shuffle...03:28
grzesiekPvideo card03:28
lubixany...03:28
Music_ShufflegrzesiekP, you should be fine with almost any really.03:28
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lubixit is a bit complicated to set it up03:28
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MTecknologygrzesiekP, long as you use 6.10, troubles with 6.0603:29
nix_ferretI think he's too lazy to type video card03:29
grzesiekPGeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x will do?03:29
Music_ShuffleTry it.03:29
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Music_ShuffleI bet you can run it at least minimally.03:29
lubixyou need AIGXL...03:29
Music_ShuffleWith a 6800 I can run in total.03:29
MTecknologyLjL, why the bans?03:29
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Music_ShuffleAIGLX is default in Edgy.03:29
LjLUbotu, tell MTecknology about exploit | MTecknology, see the private message from Ubotu03:29
nix_ferretDid I get banned?03:29
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nix_ferreterr, kicked03:29
lubixMusic_Shuffle, i didnt have it installed by default03:29
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Music_ShuffleLjL, do you have like...a keybinding for that or something?03:29
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Music_Shufflelubix, its default!03:29
webmarenLjL, how many people are you gonna ban03:30
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MTecknologyLjL, interesting... tought love03:30
AfterDeath_LjL: WAIT03:30
Music_ShuffleAll the exploited ones.03:30
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AfterDeath_you didn't make a redirecting ban03:30
lubixwell i had to enable it first before it would let me use beryl03:30
AfterDeath_LjL: they won't get sent to the right channel03:30
webmarenLjL: ...03:30
LjLagh03:30
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ezenuubotu, tell ezenu about exploit03:30
DBOLjL, redirect bans buddy03:30
LjL...03:30
nix_ferretCome on linksys don't fail me now...!03:30
SoulChildHEY How can i configure my sound devices in gnome ?03:30
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crimsunSoulChild: by using System> Preferences> Sound03:30
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Music_ShuffleSoulChild, System --> Preferences --> Sound?03:31
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_226/usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory03:31
_226/usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory03:31
_226/usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory03:31
_226hate it.03:31
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crimsun_226: so generate the necessary locales.03:31
grzesiekPthank you guys, back to work, see you soon!03:31
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SoulChildMusic_Shuffle: hmm, i mean: i have two devices to choose there but i only want the OSS device.... how can i remove the alsa device03:31
nix_ferret!topic03:31
ubotuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic03:31
Music_ShuffleSoulChild, if you switch, you can just leave the ALSA one, can't you?03:32
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nix_ferretOk, what is this router problem03:32
grzesiekPthis channel looks like one arm bandit ;o) bye for now03:32
SebbohLjL,03:32
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Music_Shuffle!exploit03:32
ubotuThere are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit03:32
Sebbohwhat's this?  Are those non-idented users?03:32
Music_Shufflenix_ferret, that was for you.03:32
SoulChildMusic_Shuffle: Yes but the problem is, that my hotkeys don't work properly on the alsa device, and it won't be fixed unless Alsa is uninstalled...03:32
nix_ferretcool, thx03:33
LjLSebboh: no, see Ubotu above03:33
Music_ShuffleAnd Sebboh could read that too :P03:33
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LjLsorry for the mistake people03:33
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melon_ok - i've been instructed to do: sudo make install <-- i get a response saying make: command not found.. (still new) - what's it mean 'n how can i fix it?03:33
SoulChildMusic_Shuffle, coul'd it be dangerous if i remove the alsa packages03:33
Music_ShuffleSoulChild, no idea then, sorry. I've never removed it myself. >.>03:33
SoulChildokay thanks03:33
sherihow do i reinstall the grub03:33
Music_Shuffle!grub03:33
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:33
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webmarenoh I figured it out now, somebody if screwing with their routers and so LjL is just trying to protect the people on the channel03:34
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melon_lol - nm03:34
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nnhow do i switch io schedulers to deadline at runtime?03:34
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LjLwebmaren: and trying to make it less interesting for people to try the exploit in the first place03:35
webmarenah03:35
webmareni see clearly now03:35
gatenI'm having trouble connecting to a smaba share on my ubuntu server from my ubuntu desktop. i can connect from windows just fine. the problem is it wont accept my password, but ive set it up with smbpasswd on the server and tested it on windows and still no go. any thoughts?03:35
nix_ferretIs there a list of routers or something so I can see if mine is on it. I think I use 6667 for emule too03:35
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SebbohMy client didn't mention any incoming DCC requests.  ...The irc client has to respond first, of course.  The initial DCC handshake goes over IRC protocol only.03:36
LjLSebboh: there was no *real* DCC request03:36
Music_Shufflenix_ferret, its a port exploit based on client.03:36
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kitchenix_ferret: if you didn't get disconnected then your fine03:36
Music_ShuffleYou're here. ;P03:36
nix_ferretschweet03:36
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vulcanius...i've had the same 3 emails in my inbox all month....03:37
vulcaniusi feel so alone03:37
Music_ShuffleIts k, I get no mail either.03:38
Music_ShuffleUsually anyways.03:38
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gatensend your email to a spam list, you'll feel real popular then03:38
webmareni once stopped checking my email for like 2 mos03:38
vulcaniuslol03:38
webmareni had 123 messages03:38
vulcaniusemail is so 2006 anyways03:38
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IndyGunFreakvulcanius,  so whats the new rage?03:38
webmareni was like "whoa"03:38
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vulcaniusI think last I heard the clothing stores were trying to bring back snail mail03:39
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vulcaniuskinda like a retro style03:39
webmarenvuclanius: roflol03:39
vulcaniuswith eggshell envelopes03:39
IndyGunFreak!snail mail03:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about snail mail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:39
IndyGunFreakthats crazy03:39
webmarenbwahahaha03:39
vulcaniusyeah03:39
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webmarensnail mail is so pathetic03:39
SebbohLjL, fake ones are just irc CTCPs, too. =)  ..I can see how such a thing could be a problem, if the user's client accepts the request and tries to connect, and the bad guy specifies the same port the user is using for her irc connection (... the LOCAL port...) *AND* the router has fubar nat.  Heh.  Not bloody likely.03:39
IndyGunFreakit is.03:39
webmareni got a letter from my host brother in Japan (I live in MD, USA)03:39
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SebbohOh, there's 833 people in there.  I guess that that changes things..  Target rich environment. =P03:40
baxter_kyliecan anyone tell me where I change the default program for a filetype in gnome/nautilus/firefox/etc ?03:40
Music_Shuffle!offtopic03:40
webmarenon like Dec 2703:40
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!03:40
Music_Shuffle;P03:40
LjLSebboh: it's not a problem with the *clients*, it's a problem with their routers. and it doesn't even have to be a CTCP03:40
webmarenit was dated Dec 103:40
LjLbut yeah we're badly offtopic03:40
webmareni was like, damn03:40
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vulcaniuswebmaren: lol, wasn't the suspense just killing you?03:40
weemgodamnit wep just BE CRACKED03:40
IndyGunFreaklol03:41
gatenbaxter_kylie:  in nautilus, right click on the file and click on the "open with" tab03:41
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weemim gonna kcik ur ass03:41
webmarenvulcanius: I wasn't actually expecting anything03:41
LjL!language | weem03:41
ubotuweem: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:41
weem:(03:41
baxter_kyliegaten: that changes it permanently?03:41
weemthe a word...my bad03:41
gatenbaxter_kylie:  it should yes03:41
webmarenvulcanius: I emailed him my resonse03:41
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IndyGunFreakweem, what makes you think wep must be cracked?03:41
webmarenvulcanius: Probably arrived about 3 minutes after i sent it03:41
karatI've got mplayer on my dapper kubuntu system, for some reason a lot of .wmv files won't play03:41
karatIs there a win32codec package or something?03:41
weemcus i need this key...so it must be :)03:42
SebbohLjL, well something is missing from the story. *shrug*03:42
webmarenvulcanius: there's a comparision for ya03:42
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djm62anyway, a couple of questions: has anyone found banshee to be (extremely, if I wasn't patient I'd kill the process thinking it had crashed) slow with ~1300 files, and how long does it take to update a few (4) albums on ipod (almost 50min here)?03:42
vulcaniuslol03:42
Music_Shuffle50 minutes?!03:42
gatenI'm having trouble connecting to a smaba share on my ubuntu server from my ubuntu desktop. i can connect from windows just fine. the problem is it wont accept my password, but ive set it up with smbpasswd on the server and tested it on windows and still no go. any thoughts?03:42
Music_ShuffleWhat's total size of the albums you're moving?03:42
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MTecknologyso, no extremely bored ppl?03:43
thelubixyes i am03:43
thelubixi want to jump03:43
Music_ShuffleI am, but we congregate in #ubuntu-offtopic03:43
Music_Shuffle:D03:43
MTecknologythelubix, i need help setting up my server03:44
webmarenciao going exclusively to offtopic03:44
djm62Music_Shuffle: they're being converted from .ogg too, but using gtkpod it takes a few minutes for an mp3-encoded album: not unusable, but makes me wonder if USB isn't at full speed03:44
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MTecknologythelubix, just moved from windows and kept some things on my HD03:44
thelubixlike what?03:44
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Music_Shufflegtkpod moves 1 album in ~3 minutes.03:44
voraistosHello guys!(and girls, if applicable :) )03:44
Music_ShuffleHi0,03:44
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MTecknologythelubix, mysql database, web sites - 3 of em03:45
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thelubixi should put up a website03:45
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thelubixand complain on it03:45
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thelubixno one would read it03:45
djm62Music_Shuffle: when I close banshee it gets to "The window "Banshee Music Player" is not responding."03:45
karatIs there nothing in ubuntu for mplayer w32codecs?03:45
Music_Shufflethelubix, hush! ;P03:45
MTecknologythelubix, any help?03:45
Music_Shufflekarat, eh? There are...03:46
Music_Shuffledjm62, kill it? Lol.03:46
karatMusic_Shuffle, where?03:46
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Music_Shuffle!win3203:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:46
Music_ShuffleErr...03:46
SeanPinthey whats a good starter distro?03:46
Music_Shuffle!proprietary03:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about proprietary - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:46
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thelubixwin32 is a API03:46
Music_Shuffle.../sigh.03:47
nix_ferretSeanPint, ubuntu03:47
thelubixMusic_Shuffle, what do you want to know?03:47
eimajenthatHowdo.  Running Ubuntu Edgy Eft, and I just installed VMWare server.  I was going through the config script, and then it said it couldn't find the super-server.  Wants me to install inetd or xinetd.  I think I read somewhere that Edgy uses something snazzier than these now?  Is that correct?  And if so, how do I convince VMWare to use the snazzier thing?03:47
thelubixSeanPint, this one03:47
Music_ShuffleSeanPint, Ubuntu is pretty simple.03:47
SeanPintis it easy to install etc?03:47
nix_ferretI recommend 6.1003:47
SeanPinti got a crap old laptop i want to use it on03:47
thelubixi reccomdent 7.04 alpha03:47
djm62Music_Shuffle: not sure about doing that while connected to a removable disk with a mysterious database rather than a normal filesystem... I know it won't do any permanent harm but it's inelegant :-S03:47
Music_ShuffleSeanPint, IIRC, its something like 6 clicks + your name and computer name in total to install.03:47
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eimajenthatSeanPint: if the laptop's slow, consider Xubuntu03:47
MTecknologythelubix, helping me out would help avoid the isolation feeling03:48
Music_Shuffledjm62, Lol. True.  Why use Banshee over the default and over Amarok and GTKpod?03:48
SebbohLjL, ok, it seems that the affected routers are content aware: they are parsing the IRC stream.  That's why the client doesn't need to respond.  That's what I gather from the CVE, anyway..  *shrug* Back to work.03:48
thelubixtry fluxbox03:48
nix_ferretI tried centos, rhel, etc, and ubuntu. ubuntu had the best h/w support, was easy to install and seemed easy for n00bs like me03:48
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SeanPintits terrible, its only a old skool 1.1 celeron with 256 ram03:48
thelubixid say ubuntu is hands down the best linux distro about03:48
ddaemonHello,03:48
thelubixSeanPint, youd be fine with fluxbox or xfce03:48
djm62Music_Shuffle: I'm going to look again at rhythmbox, but my (2G nano) ipod definitely wasn't working on it before03:49
eimajenthatSeanPint: 1.1 GHz?03:49
voraistosI want to set up a file server... on an already running server. The nfs shares part is not the problem. In fact i would like to add 2 discs(IDE) and make them work in one partition only (whatever the partition is). Thing is i dont know anything about raid, lvm, and what i should do.... (PS: there is no way i am reinstalling the system, and i would like to keep the existing data as well, if possible)03:49
SeanPintaye03:49
ddaemonI have a Lenovo X60s that hangs on startup when plugged into the dock03:49
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nix_ferretddaemon, so take it off the dock. Ohh!03:49
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Music_Shuffledjm62, odd...really?03:49
eimajenthatSeanPint: That's not that slow.  I ran Ubuntu like a champ on a PIII 750MHz, with hacking it up03:49
ddaemonnix ferret, that's not a solution, but it works03:49
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nix_ferretlol03:50
thelubixanyone want help?03:50
thelubixill have some03:50
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ddaemonit hangs when checking all file systems (fsck)03:50
harry!nvidia03:50
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:50
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eimajenthatthelubix: What's the thing edgy has instead of inetd?03:50
djm62Music_Shuffle: ah, whatever I changed to get auto-mounting has succeeded in making it show in rhythmbox.  I may look silly now, but I'll have tunes tomorrow!  thanks a lot for the advice03:50
ddaemoni think it has something to do with the fact that the dock has the CDROM drive in it03:50
thelubixinetd?03:50
e\ectro_whats the package in the package manager that is used to install all the common apps for ubuntu03:50
ddaemoneima, it's call upstart03:50
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nix_ferretddaemon, does the lenovo hang when you boot docked, when you dock while it's on, or both?03:51
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Tomcat_eimajenthat: edgy doesn't need inetd because it runs services as daemons.03:51
ddaemonjust when I boot while docked03:51
kitchee\ectro_: ubuntu-desktop03:51
Music_Shuffledjm62, GL :D03:51
thelubixkubuntu-desktop03:51
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e\ectro_kitche: I thought it was like accessorize03:51
e\ectro_or something03:51
voraistos#kubuntu is somewhere else pal03:51
nix_ferretddaemon, did you try changing your bios settings to not recognize the dock CD as a 'bootable' device?03:52
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eimajenthatTomcat_: Cool, how do I tell VMware server?03:52
kitcheeimajenthat: upstart is just the init system03:52
Tomcat_eimajenthat: What does it want to know?03:52
Tomcat_eimajenthat: You can install inetd if you need it.03:52
djakaI just did a fresj install of ubuntu 6.10 and it never prompted me for a root password so how do I change it03:52
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ddaemonnix_ferret, I don't think that's the problem because it's already booting into ubuntu when it hangs03:53
kitchedjaka: ubuntu doesn't use root03:53
eimajenthatkitche: Thanks, I think that's what I was thinking of.  Obviously I was thinking of the wrong thing, but at least now it has a name.03:53
kitche!sudo|djaka03:53
ubotudjaka: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:53
SeanPintjust looking at xubuntu, looks alright03:53
voraistospretty slow for gtk softs though03:53
djakaOk well does that mean I can not use graphical config tools as they prompt for a root password03:53
thelubixSeanPint, you should save up and buy a mac03:54
ddaemonbut it's worth toying around in the bios.  I'll check03:54
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eimajenthatTomcat_: http://pastey.net/412103:54
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reikiok who understands UUIDs? I'm trying to get an understanding. If , for example, /dev/hda1 has a UUID of 12345-1234 and then you physically move that drive so it's /dev/hdb1, the UUID still points to it? I don't understand what mechanism allows this to happen03:54
SeanPinti cant afford a mac03:54
Music_Shuffledjaka, for those, your user password is your 'root password'.03:54
voraistosdjaka: you can type sudo passwd to change the root password03:54
Nighteyesup03:54
nix_ferretSeanPint, you should save up and buy and IBM/Clone and run OSX.. :p03:54
SeanPintwas only 50 quid for this laptop so cant complain :D03:54
djakaok thanks guys03:54
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Tomcat_reiki: UUIDs are set when you format the partition... it's like a file on your partition that can be found and 100% correctly identify the partition.03:55
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reikiTomcat_,  ok... but WHERE on the partition is the UUID information ?03:55
Music_Shuffle?03:55
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Music_ShuffleUUID information like the kind in /etc/fstab?03:55
eimajenthatTomcat_:  I'd rather not install it if I don't need it, but I don't know enough to work around it03:56
nix_ferretIs there a way to get the 'recovery' mode to require a user login instead of bootinf strait to root?03:56
un_operateurreiki, a UUID helps if you want to keep that as a volume label but change the physical device e.g. replace /dev/hda03:56
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reikiun_operateur, I understand that part. I am trying to find out HOW03:56
voraistosanybody knows anything about raid and lvm ?03:56
LameBMXnix_ferret, you can passwd protect alternative boot options03:56
Music_Shuffle!raid03:56
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO03:56
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Music_Shuffleubotu clearly does :P03:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about clearly does :P - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:56
Tomcat_reiki: In the filesystem header.03:56
LameBMXnix_ferret, then they would need a pass to goto recovery mode03:57
voraistosseen that already, but it doesnt help a lot03:57
voraistosMusic_Shuffle03:57
un_operateurreiki, the UUIDs are just synlinks to devices -- thats all -- you find them in the /dev/disk directory03:57
Music_Shuffle:(03:57
reikiTomcat_, so... not someplace where I could go look at it03:57
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Tomcat_reiki: At the beginning of the filesystem there is some info, like what FS (ext3, ntfs, reiser3/4, ...), where tree information is stored, etc...03:57
reikiun_operateur, the UUID has to be somewhere other than in those symlinks03:57
pauldaousthey, folks, does anybody know how to determine the block size of a partition when its superblock is hosed?03:57
crimsunreiki: see the source code for vol_id(8).03:57
Tomcat_reiki: Sure you can... ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid03:57
Tomcat_reiki: Or vol_id, yes.03:58
un_operateurreiki, have a look for yourself03:58
nix_ferretLameBMX, I did that. It just doesn't seen too secure, but if someone has physical access your over anyway.03:58
alex-weejreiki: the UUID of a partition never changes, unlike it's kernel-assigned name (e.g. sdc4, hdb3)03:58
voraistosWell, i suppose i wil have to experiment and make a wiki entry myslef.......03:58
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pauldaoust(I want to restore the superblock from its backup, but I have to figure out the block size too, so I know what offset the backup is at.)03:58
reikialex-weej, wrong. I have CHANGED the UUID of a partition03:58
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Tomcat_reiki: UUIDs are also made to be different between computers all over the world, so if you had access to all disks in the world at the same time you could theoretically identify them by UUID.03:58
dolphini am using gaim and cannot get msn instant messager to work, does anyone know what i need to do to use msn messanger on gaim03:58
alex-weejreiki: never changes under normal use. sheesh!03:58
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alex-weejreiki: that's the whole point of it, swap your disks around controllers and linux won't boot if you use /dev/sd* identifiers in your fstab03:59
voraistosdolphin: works out of the box pal03:59
un_operateurTomcat_, thats supposing a lot of things, but there is no guarantee that two computers will not produce the same UUID03:59
alex-weejreiki: whereas with UUIDs, as long as the disk is in your system somewhere, it'll work :)03:59
kitchedolphin: if it's not working hten MS played with their network again03:59
Nighteyesecret03:59
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seb-how activate sleep mode ?03:59
reikialex-weej, yes I understand WHY they are there. I am just trying to understand more about how they work. What "ties" tehm to a particular file system04:00
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dolphinthanks that may be it04:00
Tomcat_un_operateur: That's why I said in theory. I skimmed the UUID standard, and it's supposed to work... but not guaranteed. :)04:00
un_operateurreiki, IIRC is it udev that controls the creation and linking of UUIDs -- and you are under no obligation to use them04:00
LameBMXnix_ferret, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto ... 1-2-2-e has info about locking out alternative boot options in grub04:00
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Tomcat_reiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_Unique_Identifier <--- standard is linked and explained there04:00
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crimsunyou could, of course, heed what we've been saying regarding vol_id(8)'s source code...04:01
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reikiso if I understand this correctly... if I switch things around physically... and I get confused about which UUID belongs where. I can mount the partition, go to it, and use vol_id to see what the UUID is?04:01
pauldaoustdoes anyone have any idea how to determine the blocksize on an ext2 partition when the superblock is hosed?04:01
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Tomcat_reiki: Yes.04:01
reikiTomcat_, I read that. I understood parts of it :)04:01
crimsunreiki: sure. vol_id -u foo.04:01
LameBMXnix_ferret, yea physical access is hard to avoid .. best you can do is make it a pain in the bugger for them .. unless you feel like putting your comp in a save and entering in a safe combination everytime you need to put in a cd or hardboot your computer04:02
AscDoes that mean I can delete the UUID things in /boot/grub/*lst and /etc/fstab, replace them with the old /dev/hd[whatever]  and not break anything?04:02
crimsunAsc: correct.04:02
reikicrimsun, can you do like.... vol_id -u /dev/hda1 even if /dev/hda1 is not mounted?04:02
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reikior must it be mounted?04:02
LameBMXnix cuz they can always livecd .. and chroot into your fs and have root that way04:02
Tomcat_reiki: Yes.04:02
crimsunAsc: unless of course you have a situation that -necessitates- mounting by uuid, in which case you'll find yourself in an eye-stabbity mood.04:02
Tomcat_reiki: No need to mount it.04:02
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nix_ferretI just put a bunch of rare earth maganets in the door jamb04:03
reikiok.... starting to make sense. The actual UUID is in the file system header. Not like in a file or something04:03
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Tomcat_reiki: Doesn't really matter if it's in a file or in the fs header... at least not technically.04:03
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reikiTomcat_,  ok.... but trying to understand if there's a way to "harvest" all of the UUIDs from a system. I would do that with vol_id... right?04:04
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Tomcat_reiki: Or by using "ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid", yes.04:04
Tomcat_Because for vol_id, you need to know what partitions exist.04:05
reikiI ask this because right now I have a swap partition that apparently doesn't have a UUID according to /dev/disk/by-uuid, blkid, whatever04:05
reikiand even if I don't want to reference a swap partition by UUID, it can still HAVE one.04:05
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Tomcat_reiki: Did you hibernate to the swap partition recently?04:06
robtpcan anyone help me with mounting a hfs+ partition user-readable?04:06
reikiI don't hibernate04:06
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Tomcat_Mh.04:06
reikiin fact I have not yet seen my swap in use. I have 2 gigs of ram04:06
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flyinghippoIs it possible to create a script file in Ubuntu/Linux?  (Similar to a DOS Batch Files)04:07
Tomcat_reiki: Yeah, with 1 or 2 gig of ram you rarely need swap.04:07
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seb-reiki: how suspend/hibernate? right clicking on 'battery charge monitor' doesn't have those options04:07
Tomcat_flyinghippo: Absolutely, in a variety of languages.04:07
reikiand if I do vol_id -u /dev/hdb5 (the swap partition) I get Error open volume04:07
crimsunrequires root privileges.04:08
flyinghippoTomcat_: What about a Terminal script?04:08
n0cturnal_since installing 6.10 onto my laptop the network adapter seems to keep dieing the moment I put more than about 10kb/sec of traffic through it... only way to get it back is to reboot.. any ideas?04:08
reikiahh04:08
seb-What panel icon has suspend/hibernate options?04:08
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Tomcat_flyinghippo: Create a new file, put "#!/usr/bin/bash" in the first line, then put in all the commands you want to use... make the file executable, and you're done.04:08
Tomcat_flyinghippo: Terminal script?04:08
Tomcat_n0cturnal_: Check dmesg/syslog output.04:08
un_operateurTomcat_, I think he means "shell script"04:08
reikicrimsun, sudo vol_id -u /dev/hdb5 still gives me that error04:08
Tomcat_seb-: gnome-power-manager04:08
flyinghippoTomcat_: A script that will carry out commands through terminal.04:08
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crimsunreiki: and /dev/hdb5 is valid?04:08
Tomcat_flyinghippo: Yeah, that's what I meant.04:09
reikiyes04:09
varsendaggrhey does knoppix have ntfs r/wr   function?04:09
crimsunreiki: what does fdisk -l say about /dev/hdb ?04:09
flyinghippoI can't enter the "d" character in terminal, so I'm going to have to resort to scripting.04:09
n0cturnal_NETDEV_TX_BUSY returned.. is the only message I get. any ideas?04:09
morphwvutubahas anybody here ever used yahoo game channel?04:09
seb-Tomcat_: thanks04:09
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pauldaoustmorphwvutuba: ages ago. (but not with Linux)04:09
Tomcat_n0cturnal_: I can only suggest to test the components singled out... try the network card somewhere else, try the access point somewhere else, etc.04:10
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ddaemonso I installed ubuntu desktop, but I'm thinking about removing things like open office.  This forces me to remove the package "ubuntu-desktop".  Is this a problem?04:10
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n0cturnal_tis a laptop, not wireless04:10
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reikicrimsun: ack!  I was supposed to be typing sdb504:10
morphwvutubapaul - it used to work with linux, now they're telling me i have to use IE & windows04:10
reikiI'll try again :)04:10
Tomcat_ddaemon: If you upgrade it will be... otherwise, no.04:10
un_operateurreiki, have you checked your /etc/fstab -- mine has a UUID for the swap partition04:10
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Tomcat_n0cturnal_: Your wired connection is dying? o_O04:10
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n0cturnal_yah04:11
pauldaoustmorphwvutuba: poop. Well, maybe you can have success tricking Yahoo by installing the User Agent Switcher extension for Firefox04:11
seb-Tomcat_: WHERE is gnome-power-manager in the maze of choice to "Add To Panel"? I can't find it :/04:11
ddaemonTomcat_, upgade meaning to feisty?04:11
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Tomcat_ddaemon: You should reinstall ubuntu-desktop before upgrading. Apart from that, there won't be problems *probably*.04:11
DrBanzaiI have a .bin/.toc set of files, that I need to burn to CD using an ATAPI burner...possible?04:11
Tomcat_ddaemon: Yeah, to feisty.04:11
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crimsunDrBanzai: perhaps cdrdao + bchunk ?04:11
morphwvutubapauldaoust: i knew nothing of that extension04:11
reikiun_operateur, yeah I'm trying to strqaighten up after cloning /dev/hda1 to /dev/sda1 and I have a feeling it's using the swap on /dev/hda5 as the swap file04:11
n0cturnal_Tomcat_: was working fine in dapper, in edgy its just crappin itself04:11
crimsundon't remember offhand if cdrdao handles tocs.04:12
ddaemonTomcat, what if I put "alternate" on instead, could I then do an upgrade to feisty?04:12
Tomcat_seb-: It will be automatically added if you run gnome-power-manager and if it is configured to show up. But you can suspend/hibernate from the logout menu as well.04:12
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ddaemonseamlessly?04:12
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Tomcat_n0cturnal_: Weird. :\04:12
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DrBanzaicrimsun, Well, when I go google for bchunk, it only mentions .bin and .cue files, does that matter?04:12
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un_operateurreiki, you should update fstab to reflect the changes, if you want them made i.e.04:12
Tomcat_ddaemon: Nope. For upgrades you *need* ubuntu-desktop.04:12
reikiI know I can just change fstab to use the device names like /dev/sdb5 for the swap, but I want to do this with UUIDs because I think that's how it's SUPPOSED to work04:12
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nix_ferretAnyone know the acpi commands to dim/brighten the lcd on a laptop?04:12
crimsunDrBanzai: you can use cdrdao according to its man page.04:13
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morphwvutubathanks for the tip, paul04:13
tymewill ubuntu create a kde/gnome kicker like the new opensuse 10.204:13
tyme?04:13
ddaemonalright, Tomcat, good to know04:13
defiantDoes anyone know of a way (free) to run Office XP? Along with some other windows aps? I have wine installed but it is just not cutting it.04:13
crimsunDrBanzai: "Instead of a toc-file a cue file (used by a famous DOS/Windows  mastering tool) may be used. See the CUE FILES section for more details."04:13
pauldaoustmorphwvutuba: no prob. give it a shot; doesn't work for Yahoo Music, but it works for other sites that 'require' IE. In some cases Firefox works better than IE on IE-specific sites.04:13
Tomcat_ddaemon: As long as you're not upgrading, there's no problem.04:13
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DrBanzaicrimsun, Okay, but I also read that cdrdao won't work with ATAPI burners, only SCSI, and I had no luck getting scsi emulation to work04:13
Ownerhey, anyone know if the new hybrid drives coming out early in 2007 will be compatible with existing systems? for example, will I be able to replace my laptop's hd with a hybrid drive when they come out?04:13
crimsunDrBanzai: it works fine w/ atapi.04:14
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Tomcat_Owner: hybrid what?04:14
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DrBanzaicrimsun, Shiney, I'll give it a shot.  Thanks!04:14
un_operateurOwner, errm, off-topic04:14
morphwvutubapauldaoust:  i've noticed that, both at home and with some intranet .asp pages we've got at work.04:14
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nix_ferretdefiant, you might be stuck making a virtual machine to run that. That is M$'s big selling point - they make it hard to run otherwise.04:14
pauldaoustmorphwvutuba: :)04:14
tymewill ubuntu create a kde/gnome kicker like the new opensuse 10.204:14
maddashdoes anyone here use openbox alone with x-serv?04:15
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seb-Tomcat_: i ran logout menu and gnome-power-managment....neither had option to suspend visible!? sorry to ask04:15
Ownerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_drive04:15
defiantnix_ferret, Is there a tutorial or something to do that?04:15
gatenI'm having trouble connecting to a smaba share on my ubuntu server from my ubuntu desktop. i can connect from windows just fine. the problem is it wont accept my password, but ive set it up with smbpasswd on the server and tested it on windows and still no go. any thoughts?04:15
kitchemaddash: used to04:15
Tomcat_seb-: What are you missing? Suspend can be enabled easily, but hibernate *should* be there.04:15
seb-Tomcat_: well....logout menu has Hibernate but not Suspend04:15
Tomcat_seb-: Ah, alright... wait.04:15
nix_ferretdefiant,  use vmware for linux04:16
ddaemonTomcat, I like to stay current, so I'll probably keep the ubuntu-desktop package on there04:16
maddashkitche: what happened?04:16
Tomcat_seb-: Prefs => Power Management... turn some option to "suspend", then change it back... it should ask you if you want to enable suspend.04:16
kitchemaddash: nothing openbox will make it look like nothing was there but if you right click a menu should pop up04:16
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Tomcat_ddaemon: Probably a good idea yeah.... I don't use f-spot either, but I just keep it.04:16
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reikiwhen I just type "mount" ... should it show swap partitions mounted?04:17
defiantnix_ferret thank you very much04:17
kitchereiki: no swap doesn't show up in mount04:17
nix_ferretdefiant, you'd need a copy of XP to set it up04:17
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nix_ferretnp04:17
reikikitche, whew! :)  thanks04:17
Tomcat_Owner: They are ATA drives, so they will be compatible.04:17
seb-Tomcat_: yay! you got it! thanks!04:17
ddaemonTomcat, f-spot?04:17
Tomcat_ddaemon: Foto manager04:18
OwnerTomcat_: sweet!04:18
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ddaemonah04:18
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defiantnix_ferrt, I have an OEM version. Will that work?04:18
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BigBamBoHello all04:18
maddashkitche: I meant, why did you "use to"?04:18
Bradaphraserhello04:18
Tomcat_Owner: Sounds pretty good actually... never heard of that.04:18
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maddashkitche: how'd you get startx to run automatically?04:19
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maddashkitche: and did you use gdm/kdm?04:19
nix_ferretdefiant, It should, find a keygen if you don't have a key04:19
kitchemaddash: I use e17 now04:19
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ddaemonnix_ferret, I'm updating my lenovo bios (it was madly out of date) and i just thought you should know that it is wildly beeping at me...is that good?04:19
Bradaphraserout of curiosity, my compy insists I only have 100 MB, when I know I have 20 Gig04:19
ddaemon:)04:19
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losmonhello04:19
BradaphraserI've tried re-installing while formatting harddrive04:19
Owneranyone have a Thinkpad Z61t>04:19
loderunnerX-Chat isn't letting me join different channels04:19
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Bradaphraserand it just laughs at me04:19
Owner?04:19
defiantnix_ferret. I have tons of those, THANKS VERY MUCH. i will get to work on it now,.04:19
nix_ferretnp04:19
aoirthoirI LOVE UBUNTU!04:20
loderunnerneither the gui nor /join #blah works04:20
Bradaphraser"You only have 100MB, idiot.  Why are you trying to install anything?"04:20
losmonhow can see my cpu usage & ram & uptime and other useful things on my desktop?04:20
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dosnlinuxcan wma files (after all the codecs are installed) be burned to an audio cd?04:20
Tomcat_Owner: They might not work perfectly in Linux though... but that will be fixed pretty soon I guess.04:20
BradaphraserI think I just need to reformat my hard drive manually, but I have no idea how to do that04:20
maddashOwner: I've got a T43, if that helps...04:20
BigBamBodoes any one know if there is a active effort to get on the fly rotation forking for tablets04:20
Tomcat_losmon: Either using gdesklets (Google) or by adding System Monitor to your panels.04:20
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un_operateurlosmon, adesktlets, gdesklets, gkrellm. conky, etc04:21
losmonThank you04:21
nix_ferretBradaphraser, use fdisk on a floppy or dare I say it, a winxp cd.04:21
Tomcat_losmon: Or using gkrellm or something.04:21
losmonwhich is the best?04:21
Bradaphraserugh04:21
loderunneragain, does anyone know why I can't join different channels?  Neither the GUI nor /join #blah works04:21
OwnerI've orderd a Z61t and I'm hoping the screen brightness on the wxga is good enough04:21
BradaphraserI hate Windows04:21
loderunnerusing Xchat04:21
losmonand which needs the less cpu usage to work?04:21
BradaphraserI guess if that's the only way...04:21
nix_ferretBradaphraser, what type do u need it to be?04:21
kitcheloderunner: you sure you can't what does your status page say?04:21
nix_ferretfat or ext3?04:21
BradaphraserI'm just wanting my compy to run ubuntu04:22
Bradaphrasereven xubuntu, and I'll be happy04:22
Tomcat_loderunner: Any output from xchat?04:22
Bradaphraserbut it says I have less space than I know I have04:22
loderunnerkitche: status page?04:22
cypruserWhenever I get try to install Windows XP on VM Player, VM Player always crashes and I get a strange message about reloading the trash. How do I fix this problem?04:22
nix_ferretBradaphraser, ubuntu will format it on install04:22
nix_ferretjust boot live04:22
kitcheloderunner: when you first connect that is the status page04:22
Ownermaddash: do you have the 15"?04:22
Bradaphraserk04:22
maddashOwner: yep04:22
Bradaphraserwhen I tried that before, it said I only had 100 MB04:22
Bradaphraseram I looking at the wrong place?04:22
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loderunnernothing unusual04:22
Ownermaddash: how's the weight?04:22
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nix_ferretBradaphraser, is your 'puter an HP or Compaq?04:23
loderunnerhmm04:23
un_operateurTomcat_, why did you associate gdesklets with google up there?04:23
loderunnerI just managed to join ##unavailable04:23
Bradaphrasera good ol' fashioned eMachine04:23
loderunnerI guess that's progress?  lol04:23
loderunnertrying to get to ##java04:23
Bradaphraserso it's an expensive paperweight, I know04:23
nix_ferretBradaphraser, I think even with them you have to get it to blow away the firsy partition04:23
kitcheloderunner: you have to be registered to join it04:23
nix_ferretBradaphraser, they put a recovery volume on there04:23
loderunnerwtf?04:23
loderunnerok then...04:24
loderunneradmittedly, I don't use IRC a lot04:24
maddashOwner: it's like your average college textbook (lighter in most cases)...you can get the official numbers online ( I think it's ~5.6 lbs)04:24
nix_ferrete-machines are ok04:24
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Bradaphraserso, what should be my next move?04:24
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kitcheloderunner: /msg nickserv help register04:24
MathewHow do i upgrade to Firefox 2?04:25
nix_ferretwhen you booted live did you tell it (the second option, me thinks) the erase the whole drive or just the first partition?04:25
kitcheMathew: you on dapper?04:25
Ownermaddash: did ubuntu install without trouble?04:25
BradaphraserI've been trying all day04:25
Mathewketche: yes04:25
Tomcat_un_operateur: Because he needs a special gdesklet to get system info... I'd use Google to find that out. Or maybe just the gdesklets interface...04:25
BradaphraserI've selected each, at some time Today04:25
kitche!backports|Mathew04:25
ubotuMathew: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports04:25
BradaphraserI even went so far as to try the alternate install04:25
loderunnerthnx04:25
Bradaphraseror whatever that text-based install is called04:25
kitcheMathew: Firefox 2.0 is in dapper-backports04:25
un_operateurTomcat_, ahh right ok04:25
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nix_ferretBradaphraser, I would go so far as to say that a BIOS update may be in order.04:26
Bradaphraserhmm04:26
CheyenneDWhere do i Themes?04:26
Bradaphraserso, how would I go about doing that?04:26
nix_ferretBradaphraser, check your bios and see if 2 partions are in there.04:26
maddashOwner: yep. I had to do it with the standard (not server) install, though, b/c at the time I need wireless support right out of the box. Are you considering installing Ubuntu on the Z61?04:26
morphwvutubapauldaoust:  dangit, user agent switcher works as far as the browser check is concerned, but it wants Java, and i can't seem to get past that04:26
DrBanzaicrimsun, It looks like that work.  Thanks again!04:26
DrBanzaiworks, even04:26
un_operateurMathew, I'd download and install firefox from mozilla.org -- the debian/ubuntu firefox happens to be different to mozilla's04:26
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Ownermaddash: yes04:27
Bradaphraseris there a button I should hit to bring up bios?  Or is it hit-and-miss?04:27
CheyenneDWhere do I get themes?04:27
maddashOwner: I recommend this site: http://forums.thinkpads.com   . it helped me quite a lot along the way04:27
_226yey for mplayer -vo aa porno......04:27
nix_ferretI'm kind of just guessing, but ubuntu might not be "seeing" the who hard drive b/c the bios is not supported.04:27
un_operateurBradaphraser, look at what your POST screen says -- it usually has a note on the side/bottom saying which key to press04:27
nix_ferretwhole*04:27
Ownermaddash: yeah, i've been browsing that site. its pretty good.04:27
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Bradaphraserhmm04:27
Tomcat_CheyenneD: For what? Gnome: art.gnome.org04:27
BradaphraserI've got a boot menu04:27
nix_ferretI imagine the pc is old?04:27
Bradaphraserthat's not what I'm looking for04:28
Bradaphraseryeah, at least 3 years, I think04:28
un_operateurBradaphraser, much before the boot menu -- right after you power up04:28
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Bradaphraserdamn04:28
nix_ferretHit f2 or esc or something04:28
Bradaphraserit just has a white splash screen04:28
Bradaphraseresc got me the boot menu04:28
nix_ferretslowly tap it after the num lock key lights up04:28
BradaphraserI'll try F204:28
maddashOwner: word to the wise, however: the default standard install is slow as hell (primarily b/c of gnome). I recommend installing Xubuntu, or, if you have an wired connection available, to go with the "server" setup04:28
un_operateurBradaphraser, POST - Power on Self Test -- the stage at which the BIOS detects CPU, memory. peripherals etc04:28
Bradaphraseraha!04:29
Ownermaddash: why so slow?04:29
BradaphraserBIOS!04:29
nix_ferretAll, is what I'm saying seem right? About the bios and all?04:29
maddashOwner: gnome. and other misc. garbage.04:29
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nix_ferretIs it amibios or american megatrends?04:29
alienseer23soundhelp, my system recognizes my card, but I get "could not open resource for writing" when I try to test sound with gnome (was trying to get 5.1 audio working, don't know what I did to get this)04:29
Bradaphrasersys mem 390MB04:29
Tomcat_nix_ferret: Well, it's sometimes F10 or Del :)04:29
Ownermaddash: I do like the leanness of xubuntu, so I will probably go that route04:29
maddashOwner: the default install uses nautilus as the file manager and metacity as the window manager04:29
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BigBamBodo you know if there is one of those for toshiba04:30
nix_ferretTomcat_, I mean about ubuntu not seeing his whole drive04:30
maddashOwner: go give it a shot. just be careful when installing your bootloader.04:30
Bradaphraserit says PhoenixBIOS Steup Utility04:30
Mathewun_operateur: i downloaded Firefox 2 from Mozilla, but i just have a folder on my desktop now04:30
Ownermaddash: Yeah, I keep a live disc handy so I can fdisk in case I screw up the bootloader install04:31
Tomcat_nix_ferret: Maybe... not too experiences with this either... I'd need to get my hands on the machine.04:31
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maddashOwner: I've had over a dozen mishaps with my master boot record, but each time was able to restore it with a backed up version via a Knoppix liveCD (and the "dd" utility)04:31
nix_ferretHow big does the bios say your hd is Bradaphraser ?04:31
un_operateurMathew, you'll need to extract the package to a location -- mozilla recommends /opt04:31
maddashOwner: I use grub, it's quite handy04:31
Bradaphrasersystem memory 640 KB04:31
Ownermaddash: is grub the standard for ubuntu?04:31
Bradaphraserextended 390 MB04:31
Bradaphraseris the hard drive size listed somewhere else?04:32
BradaphraserI see the primary master04:32
Tomcat_Owner: Yes.04:32
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maddashOwner: for breezy (which is what I installed), you've got to choose between LILO and GRUB04:32
maddashOwner: could be the same deal w/Dapper and Edgy04:32
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un_operateurMathew, log on as root, at a terminal -- sudo -i  -- and then type this out -- cd /opt; tar zxf ~/firefox*tar.gz04:32
Ownermaddash: cool. I will be installing edgy04:32
Tomcat_I've never chosen between lilo and grub in any Ubuntu version :)04:32
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reikiI don't recall seeing any mention of Lilo when installing Edgy04:32
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nix_ferretBradaphraser, that's your mammories (RAM)04:33
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Bradaphraserhaha04:33
Bradaphraserk04:33
__mikemI have a question. Does the fact that I can't order edgy CD's from shipit for free have anything to do with shuttleworth not having the money to fund it04:33
Bradaphraserwhere does it say my drive space, then?04:33
Tomcat___mikem: No.04:33
un_operateurMathew, you'll then need to update the firefox link -- mv /usr/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefox.bak; ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox04:33
__mikemThen WHy do I have to buy edgy cd's04:34
nix_ferretlook around in the menu for hard drives04:34
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un_operateurreiki, Edgy uses grub04:34
jpIs there anyone here that can give me some pointers on Warty backports?04:34
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Bradaphraserit just says main advanced security04:34
nix_ferretYou're not going to brake anything.04:34
Bradaphraseretc etc etc04:34
Tomcat___mikem: They want to push Ubuntu dapper (6.06), because it's the most stable version. So they don't give away edgy CDs for free.04:34
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maddashOwner: dapper has LTS....just an FYI04:34
reikiun_operateur, yes I know... I have 2 installs of Edgy on this machine :)04:34
nix_ferretk, go main and what do you get?04:34
Bradaphraserin primary master lists my pretty hard drive04:34
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un_operateurjp, errm, warty eh? ok, whats the question?04:35
nix_ferretthere u go. How big does it say?04:35
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__mikemoh, so when Fiesty comes out, will that be free?04:35
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Tomcat_Thx Madpilot.04:35
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Erb_When I play a local video in Firefox (via File > Open file), Firefox crashes.  I have launched Firefox from terminal to see what the error is when it crashes, it is:  Segmentation fault (core dumped)04:35
nix_ferretGotta love that chanserv04:35
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Bradaphraserit doesn't say, unless I'm looking in the wrong place04:36
nix_ferretsneaky04:36
Bradaphrasermaybe 8.455 Gig04:36
maddashOwner: oh, if you have an ntfs partition, be sure to defrag before resizing the partitions04:36
element43how does one go about getting multiple sounds to play in ubuntu?04:36
Bradaphraserwhen I change it to "user"04:36
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jpI've been trying to put some backports into my /etc/apt/sources.list and every one says it's a malformed line :p04:36
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genius314Hey can anyone help me configure my resolution? Nothing I try works.04:36
Ownermaddash: how come?04:36
nix_ferretNo, it should be on auto04:36
varsendaggrhey can i mount an ipod in knoppix04:36
Bradaphraserk04:36
BradaphraserI changed it from auto04:36
un_operateurjp, can you pastebin your sources.list04:36
Bradaphraseris it part of the huge name?04:36
un_operateur!paste | jp04:36
ubotujp: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:36
SebbohWhat is this, EFnet? :)04:37
nix_ferretThe main page didn't list your hd size?04:37
nix_ferretor does it now?04:37
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Bradaphraserno, it doesn't04:37
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reikiok... this may be my last piece of UUID madness... blkid now shows all partitions and their UUID EXCEPT for /dev/sda5 which blkid shows like this : /dev/sda5: TYPE="swap"  ....no UUID. I assume since vol_id comes back empty for that device that it does not HAVE a UUID? And that I should assign one using uuidgen and tune2fs?04:37
Bradaphraserthe advanced area says the CPU speed04:37
Bradaphraserand the ram04:37
trumpetmichow do I share files with a windows network without requiring a login for windows users to use the files?04:37
un_operateurvarsendaggr, if debian and ubuntu can mount and use ipods -- so can knoppix04:37
Bradaphraserbut I can't find anything that says my hard drive size04:38
nix_ferretk, look around and see if there is an option to remove the fancy logo from the startup so you can see the post04:38
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nix_ferretDon't stab it, it's not a woman...04:38
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genius314Can someone help me configure my resolution?04:38
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Bradaphraserhmm04:38
un_operateurreiki, you can find out what the swap partitions UUID is through the fstab entry -- and that UUID should exist in /dev/disk/by-uuid04:39
Bradaphrasershould I turn off the quickboot mode?04:39
h3xisgenius314, sure04:39
Bradaphraserwould that help anything?04:39
nix_ferretyes!04:39
maddashOwner: your ntfs files are actually fragmented across the ntfs partition (which, in most cases, is your entire hard drive)04:39
nix_ferretthat's it04:39
Bradaphraserk04:39
BradaphraserI'll save and see if that helps04:39
nix_ferretwell, sometimes there is a "logo" option too04:39
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Ownermaddash: crap, so there's risk of file loss then?04:39
genius314h3xis: I'm trying to get it 1280x1024 (which is what I put in xorg.conf), but all I can go up to is 1280x80004:39
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nix_ferretlook for the words "Primary IDE"04:39
coolzoneHi, I need to install ubuntu using a floppy, isn't that possible like on debian?04:39
reikiun_operateur, it's not in /dev/disk/by-uuid and it's not in fstab. /dev/sda5 is the swap partition for a Dapper install on my first SATA drive. Maybe it didn't GET a UUID?04:40
Bradaphraserdamn04:40
Bradaphraserok04:40
maddashOwner: so when you resize your ntfs partition (ubuntu installer has it's own resizer - pretty neat), you might lose portions of, or even entire, files.04:40
HipotermiAcual es el canal de espaol de ubuntu ?04:40
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Bradaphraserit just jumped straight into my LIVECD menu04:40
CrocoJethello04:40
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h3xisgenius314, what vid card and do you have the drivers installed?04:40
nix_ferretyou can hit the "pause" button if it goes too fast04:40
reiki!es04:40
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:40
Bradaphraserk04:40
CrocoJetsomeone here use video capture / TV Powercolor Real angel 330 ?04:40
Ownermaddash: pretty crappy!04:40
nix_ferretenter to resume04:40
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jphttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39271/04:41
un_operateurreiki, if all other partitions are using UUIDs .. it's very very likely the swap partition got one too -- double check fstab,  grep -i swap /etc/fstab04:41
craigbass1976I have a few questions...  We have been a Fedora house since FC1.  We are now a Fedora family with an Ubuntu basement, but will likely be an Ubuntu house soon.  I need to know why I cna't fire up an app after su-ing in a terminal.  My wife and I fire up thunderbird while the other is logged simply by opening a terminal, su-ing to ourself, and typing thunderbird.  Can't do it in Ubuntu.04:41
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Bradaphraserok04:41
Erb_When I play a local video in Firefox (via File > Open file), Firefox crashes.  I have launched Firefox from terminal to see what the error is when it crashes, it is:  Segmentation fault (core dumped)04:41
genius314h3xis: unfortunately, I have an ATI card. I'd assume the drivers are installed.04:41
Bradaphrasermy lovely splash screen is covering EVERYTHING04:41
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h3xisgenius314, not the proprietary ones04:41
nix_ferretOk, well, you said you changed user to auto right?04:42
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reikiun_operateur, the swap in fstab on THIS partition has a UUID. I am running on /dev/sdb I have 2 SATA drives and one IDE drive. All Ubuntu installations have their own drive04:42
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Bradaphraseryes04:42
genius314h3xis: What is that?04:42
aoirthoircraig ima try that04:42
h3xiscraigbass1976, you use sudo <command> in ubuntu04:42
Bradaphraserdang it04:42
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Bradaphraserit just pops up with something quickly04:42
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Bradaphraserthen runs away04:42
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nix_ferretSo boot the liveCD and see if the formatter "sees' your drive04:42
h3xisgenius314, i'm not sure how to get ati drivers working in ubuntu :/ im sure someone else here does04:42
Bradaphraserit'k04:42
kitcheh3xis: that's to run as root powers not to open an app as another user04:42
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maddashOwner: do you intend to use grub as your primary bootloader or ntldr?04:43
craigbass1976so, if Amanda has the x session open, I sudo craig thunderbird?04:43
nix_ferrettry hitting esc or something to make the boot logo go away04:43
Tomcat_craigbass1976: Should work. :)04:43
genius314h3xis: Ok. Thanks anyway.04:43
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un_operateurreiki, so if there is a UUID present, whats the problem, i'm confused now :)04:43
Bradaphraserk04:43
Tomcat_craigbass1976: No, "su craig", then thunderbird should work.04:43
Ownermaddash: prolly04:43
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nix_ferretThere is a BIOS option that will make that go away FYI,04:43
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jpdid you get that un_operateur? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39271/04:43
Bradaphraserheh04:43
SilentDis'lo :)04:43
Bradaphraserthat showed me an instant thing again04:43
maddashOwner: huh? which one?04:43
Bradaphraserk04:43
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Ownergrub04:44
craigbass1976Tomcat_, I get a cannot open display message.  This has been the rub...04:44
nix_ferretHow big is your hard drive anyway?04:44
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racarr!pastebin04:44
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:44
Bradaphrasersupposed to be 20 gig04:44
Tomcat_craigbass1976: Mh... yeah, there might be auth problems... no idea how to fix those though, sorry. Maybe someone else. :\04:44
nix_ferretk, cool04:44
reikiun_operateur, I am trying to get the UUIDs of ALL partitions. I have all but one. I have UUIDs for all partitions currently mounted and in use EXCEPT I can't get the UUID of /dev/sda5 which is the swap partition of a DAPPER install that's on my other sata drive. I am currently booted to Edgy04:44
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nix_ferretlets boot live and see what we can...err...see04:45
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un_operateurjp, ok, your sources.list seems incomplete -- take the sources.list from here and replace each instance of the word "edgy" with "warty" -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sources.list04:45
genius314Can anyone help me get a 1280x1024 resolution on an ATI card?04:45
kitchecraigbass1976: that's because you can't open another gui app as another user while anotehr user is on that screen you would have to use another display04:45
craigbass1976Anyone?  How do I get around the "Cannot open display" message when trying to fire up a gui program when another user is the one with the X session open?04:45
Bradaphraserk04:45
jpThanks. (;-)04:45
kitchecraigbass1976: unless you mean from the same screen04:45
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craigbass1976kitche, oh, ok04:45
Bradaphraserlemme see if live still tells me it's a tiny hard drive04:46
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un_operateurreiki, if you are trying to retrieve the UUID of your swap partition using vol_id .. you won't be able to since the swap partition has no real metadata for it to read off04:46
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nix_ferretIf it still says 100mb, I'm going to come over and beat it with a hammer.04:46
craigbass1976kitche, how do I open another display, or do I have to do the switch user thing?  That's a little XP-ish and I was hoping to avoid that.  So much easier from a terminal...04:46
Bradaphraseryeah04:46
Bradaphraserit doesn't listen04:46
nix_ferretWe have ways of making you work e-machine.04:47
reikiun_operateur, ok... THAT is the answer I think I was looking for. Thank you. Maybe when I BOOT to that Dapper install I will be able to see a UUID :)04:47
Bradaphraserno matter how much violence I use04:47
Bradaphraserit just stares at me with a blank look04:47
un_operateurreiki, maybe something like this helps homing in on the UUID of your swap partition -- for i in `ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/`; do echo $i, `readlink /dev/disk/by-uuid/$i`; done04:47
Bradaphraser"Huh?"04:47
Bradaphraser"I'm working!"04:47
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Bradaphraser"I wanna pet the rabbits, George..."04:47
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kitchecraigbass1976: only way I know how to is do it from the same screen where your infront of the monitor04:47
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nix_ferretAt work we say the beatings will continue until production increases...04:47
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Bradaphraser:)04:47
genius314Anyone want to help me configure my resolution with an ATI card?04:47
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un_operateurreiki, as i said, no vol_id will be able to tell you the UUID, from any installation04:47
hyphenatedcraigbass1976: run 'xhost +local:' as the user who logged into X, then it should work fine after you su to someone else04:48
eimajenthatWill installing xinetd slow my system down much?04:48
crimsunplease note that xhost is deprecated for security best practices. Use xauth instead.04:48
reikiun_operateur, ok... can't be that important then :)  thank you for your patience04:48
SilentDisBradaphraser, does this axiom sound familiar? "If it doesn't fit, jam it.  If it breaks, it needed fixing anyway."04:48
Erb_When I play a local video in Firefox (via File > Open file), Firefox crashes.  I have launched Firefox from terminal to see what the error is when it crashes, it is:  Segmentation fault (core dumped)04:48
craigbass1976hyphenated, every time I boot the box?04:48
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ddwagnz:/04:48
un_operateurreiki, the command i posted should help you with what you want :)04:49
Bradaphrasersounds like my method of tech support, yes ;)04:49
un_operateurreiki, yw :)04:49
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hyphenatedcraigbass1976: try it first, and if that works, add it to an X startup script somewhere04:49
Bradaphraserok04:49
Bradaphraserit says, "Free space 171 MB"04:49
kitcheErb_: hmm it's probably due to your video player why not just open the player by itself?04:49
Bradaphraserunless I'm looking at the wrong thing04:49
Bradaphraserwhich is entirely possible04:49
genius314Can someone help me configure my resolution??04:50
craigbass1976hyphenated, No love here...       xhost +local:         was the exact command04:50
Bradaphraserthis computer hates me04:50
ddwagnzhehe04:50
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SilentDisgenius314, I missed your question... could you repeat it please?04:50
trumpetmicanyone: can I share files with a Windows network and not require windows users to login in order to access the files?04:50
Bradaphraserit's the only honorable option04:50
SilentDisnix_ferret, can I have your stuff?04:50
nix_ferretWhat options does the formatter give you?04:50
BradaphraserI'm thinking of being my computer's second04:50
Erb_kitche - I'm building an application, I need to open local videos in the browser04:50
Tomcat_trumpetmic: Sure.04:50
nix_ferretSorry, goes to the missus04:50
Bradaphraserheh04:50
Tomcat_trumpetmic: Requires some configuring though.04:50
craigbass1976trumpetmic, I believe you can have a wide open samba share04:50
Bradaphrasernow it just says, "Missing command to run"04:51
BradaphraserI think I made it angry04:51
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trumpetmiccool04:51
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nix_ferretwt*?04:51
Bradaphraserlemme try my other CD04:51
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BradaphraserI've made five Today04:51
SilentDisnix_ferret, you need to make a murder/suicide pact with her first then. :D04:51
trumpetmicis there a good guide for learning how to do this?04:51
Bradaphraserof every kind of ubuntu04:51
craigbass1976trumpetmic, There's a recipe I think in the Linux Cookbook for such a thing.04:51
Bradaphraser(kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu...)04:51
craigbass1976Oreilly04:51
CheyenneDHow do i use UDM (Gnome Login Backgrounds) in Edgy?04:51
nix_ferretSilenceGold, true. I think my lawyer put that in the pre-nup04:51
genius314SilentDis: I want a 1280x1024 resolution, (which my monitor and card support - I've done it in Windows), and I configured my Xorg.conf to be able to have that resolution, but all I can go up to is 1280x800.04:51
CheyenneD*GDM04:51
nix_ferretBoot the ubuntu live CD04:52
Bradaphraserk04:52
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nix_ferretIs it version 6.10?04:52
trumpetmichm.. I'm surprised there isn't an easy peasy graphical utility for setting this up... sounds like a project04:52
nix_ferret"edgy"04:52
Bradaphraseryes04:52
ablyssCheyenneD: gksu gdmsetup04:52
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nix_ferretgood04:52
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Tomcat_trumpetmic: Basically you need to make a directory readable by anyone, and then do map to guest = Bad password... worked for me. I'm pretty sure there is a guide somewhere04:52
Bradaphraseredgy bastard04:52
Bradaphraser;)04:52
SilentDisgenius314, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.  go through that command, choose 'advanced' at the end, and pick the 1280x1024 res.04:52
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genius314SilentDis: Ok, I'll try that.04:53
CheyenneDablyss: What?04:53
Tomcat_trumpetmic: You could submit a specification for that feature for features.launchpad.net :)04:53
nix_ferretWhere do they come up with these names? It reminds me of hurricanes.04:53
Bradaphraseryeah04:53
ablyssCheyenneD: gksu gdmsetup04:53
SilentDisgenius314, at the end, nothing will happen, it'll just exit.  restart gdm (ctrl-alt-backspace) and you should be good.04:53
Bradaphraserhey, I've loved it for the last 9 months or so04:53
Bradaphraserit's been great04:53
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nix_ferretubuntu katrina will blow you away04:53
Bradaphraserit just decided to die Yesterday04:53
Bradaphraser:)04:53
reiatzunix_ferret: ..04:53
SilentDisgenius314, if X fails to start, use that command again, and set it to something lower.  we'll get you fixed yet :)04:53
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nix_ferretNeed that movie voice guy to say it though.04:54
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genius314SilentDis: Ok04:54
rigmahi need some help on my first ubuntu install04:54
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nix_ferretBradaphraser, what exactly do you mean by "die"04:54
SilentDisrigmah, you're in the right spot, ask away :)04:55
genius314SilentDis: What do I choose for the first option?04:55
ddwagnz:/04:55
Bradaphraserit stopped working04:55
eimajenthatWhat does xinetd do?04:55
nix_ferretUm, the PC were kicking around now?04:55
genius314SilentDis: "X server driver"04:55
Bradaphraserit wouldn't load all of the sudden04:55
SilentDisgenius314, it's been a while, what is it asking?04:55
nix_ferretOh, u mean XP?04:55
craigbass1976rigmah, this is a windows 3.1 chat.  I don't know what silentdis is talking about...04:55
nix_ferretor whatever04:55
nix_ferretlol04:55
SilentDisgenius314, what driver are you using?  binary blobs, or is this the first install you've done?04:55
craigbass1976rigmah, hehe04:56
genius314SilentDis: first install.04:56
vox754!beryl04:56
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl04:56
nix_ferretTopic: Win 3.11 for workgroups - is the file manager good or bad04:56
rigmahi downloaded 6.10 and booted it up on a box i put together from parts laying around. I get to the GUI install screen and i select the first option. I believe its install or run live cd. I see two files load on the GUI then it goes black with a blinking curser04:56
un_operateureimajenthat, it's a super-server -- links up smaller-services to ports without the need for them to be running all the time -- as opposed to apache which runs by itself all the time04:56
nix_ferretBradaphraser, you get that beast to boot live yet?04:56
SilentDisgenius314, you're running the built in OSS driver then... you MIGHT wanna consider dropping in the binary blobs first, before you go through this.  hit ctrl-c to exit out.04:57
Bradaphraserit's still "thinking" about it04:57
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rigmahi burnt the ISO twice and i get the same problem with both. any ideas?04:57
SilentDis!ati | genius31404:57
ubotugenius314: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:57
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Bradaphraserk04:57
BradaphraserI'm checking the options it gives me04:57
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Bradaphraseron the intstall screen04:57
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eimajenthatun_operateur:  Is it system intensive?  VMWare wants me to install it.04:58
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nix_ferretYou should put in your name and user/pass then a screen or 2 later it will start the "formatter" or whatever it calls it.04:58
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Bradaphraserok04:58
rigmahi downloaded 6.10 and booted it up on a box i put together from parts laying around. I get to the GUI install screen and i select the first option. I believe its install or run live cd. I see two files load on the GUI then it goes black with a blinking curser04:58
Bradaphraserk04:58
NICKAhello everyone04:58
Bradaphraserprepare disk space04:59
rigmah?04:59
nix_ferretThe install will seem to hang 4 a sec04:59
genius314SilentDis: I don't have a Radeon card.04:59
willys_fueguinoI need some help... I cant run the gdmflexiserver04:59
nix_ferretyea04:59
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Bradaphrasermanually edit partiition table is the second option04:59
nix_ferretwhat's the 1st?04:59
Bradaphraserthe first just says "Erase entire disk"04:59
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Bradaphraser30.0 GB04:59
nix_ferretand you tried that and no good?04:59
BradaphraserIDE Master, etc etc04:59
Bradaphraseryeah04:59
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Bradaphraserit just mocked me05:00
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nix_ferretclick manually edit, but don't do anything in there05:00
nix_ferrethaha05:00
Bradaphrasergot about 75% through, then did a kill all05:00
weemnixxxx05:00
weemlol05:00
Shocka311How do I use terminal to edit a file that has spaces in it05:00
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Bradaphraserk05:00
tannerldhow can I configure ubuntu's internet settings via the command line?05:00
craigbass1976rigmah, have you tried 6.06?05:00
Bradaphraserit has ext3 26 GB05:00
craigbass1976tannerld, like ip address?05:00
SilentDisgenius314, what kind of card is it?05:00
Bradaphraserfor hda105:00
Bradaphraserhda2, extended 1.06 GB05:01
nix_ferretno swap?05:01
Bradaphraserand hda5 1.06 GB05:01
SilentDisShocka311, nano /path/to/file\ name\ has\ spaces.txt05:01
Bradaphraserlinux-swap05:01
nix_ferretyeah yeah05:01
Bradaphraserso05:01
tannerldcraigbass1976: umm, like I clicked "do not config internet at install" and i need to download something to get the x windows working :\05:01
nix_ferretOk, well. I'd try to install it like that.05:01
Bradaphraserk05:01
genius314SilentDis: 3D Rage Pro (or 3D Rage I/II. I have two installed, each with a different monitor. I also need to get both monitors working.)05:01
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Bradaphraserwe'll see what happens05:02
nix_ferretIf it doesn't work you'll need to update your bios05:02
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Bradaphraserk05:02
nix_ferretwell, no. I take that back05:02
Bradaphraserhow would I do that?05:02
eternal_phey all, quick question...how can I disable the Beryl Startup Spash screen, I cannot find the setting anywhere05:02
Shocka311silentdis: could you interpret that please?05:02
curs0rhow do i mount an ipod?05:02
maddashwhat happens when you enter in, "sudo apt-get remove apt"?05:02
vox754!seen illu05:02
ubotuI haven't seen illu recently05:02
nix_ferretIf ubuntu can "see" it, there shouldn't be a problem05:02
SilentDisgenius314, i've not worked with the rage pro cards... not sure what the 'default' driver is on those.05:02
craigbass1976tannerld, Ahh, ok.  ifconfig  eth0 ip.add.ress netmask 255.255.255.0  Then set /etc/resolv.conf to your dns server.05:02
vox754!seen illu4505:02
ubotuillu45 is on IRC right now!05:02
Bradaphraserk05:02
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Bradaphraseryeah, it can see it05:02
genius314SilentDis: Ok.05:02
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Bradaphraserand I ran a memory check earlier, and there were no errors05:03
nix_ferretwho is illu45?05:03
Gun_SmokeI am experiencing some difficulties with the install via alternate installation CD.  Everything seems to be going fine up until I get to the base installation.  I get a bunch 20-50 red screen errors stating something about not being able to download the files, and another one the certain files are corrupt.05:03
Bradaphraserso maybe it's just a bios thing05:03
eternal_panyone?05:03
nix_ferretThat's good, but sort of not related.05:03
weemanyone here wardrive?05:03
maddashdoes aptitude still work after I do "sudo apt-get remove apt"?05:03
SilentDisShocka311, the editor is called 'nano'.  so, you start with the command.  the file you want to edit is in /path/to/.  then, the actual file name has spaces, so you 'escape' the spaces with the backslash.05:03
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tannerldcraigbass1976: ok, i think (let me try)05:03
Gun_SmokeI am in the middle of yet another install attempt to reproduce the events for better information.05:03
craigbass1976tannerld, you may also have to add a gateway.  lemme see if I can find tha file this command writes to...05:04
Shocka311silentdis: i see, let me try that05:04
Bradaphraserk, so BIOS isn't a necessity then05:04
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SilentDisShocka311, so, say the file name is "My Crazy File.txt", and it's in /home/shocka.  the command would be "nano /home/shocka/My\ Crazy\ File.txt" without the quotes of course :)05:04
Bradaphraserer, BIOS update, I mean05:04
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nix_ferretno. Where did you see it tell you your drive was only 200mb before?05:04
curs0ranyone? help me with an ipod?05:04
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BradaphraserI was looking at free space05:04
Bradaphraseron the file system05:05
SilentDiscurs0r:  gonna poke ubotu on that one...05:05
BradaphraserI was confusing myself05:05
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SilentDis!ipod | curs0r05:05
ubotucurs0r: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto05:05
nix_ferretOh, in the install?05:05
maddashanyone know?05:05
nix_ferretwho is illu45?05:05
Bradaphraserdesperately trying to make sense of it all05:05
Bradaphraserno, not on install05:05
curs0rthanks05:05
Bradaphraserafter starting live05:05
Gun_SmokeFrom the alternate install CD.. What does Install in OEM mode mean?05:05
tannerldcraigbass1976: how can I configure it for dhcp?05:05
BradaphraserI looked at the file sytem05:05
NICKAi cannot get Vmware server installed on my dapper drake. it says detected previous version of vmware05:05
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Bradaphraserdesperately trying to figure out why it was killing itself05:05
nix_ferretBradaphraser, Oh, no wonder. You have 256mb ram?05:05
nix_ferretor 512?05:06
vox754Shocka311: actually you can also enclose the file name with quotes, simple or double.05:06
Bradaphraser25605:06
willys_fueguinoIs there an alternative to gdmflexiserver??05:06
Bradaphraserwhich was why I was trying to go for xubuntu05:06
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Shocka311that makes it a little easier05:06
craigbass1976tannerld, I foudn the file.  hehe...  I'll pm you and paste05:06
SilentDisvox754, good point, i tend to always use \ to escape single characters, it's just another way I guess :)05:06
nix_ferretthe 200mb you were probably seeing was the 'virtual' hd that ubuntu creates to run within RAM05:06
Bradaphraserah yes05:06
nix_ferretThat's how the livecd works05:06
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Bradaphraserthat makes sense05:07
rowdyanybody setup ejabberd05:07
nix_ferretThe install still moving?05:07
rowdyi installed it but its not starting05:07
Bradaphraseryeah05:07
Bradaphraserso far05:07
alex-weej!xgl05:07
SilentDis!anyone | rowdy05:07
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:07
uboturowdy: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:07
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Bradaphraseryou think it could be a problem with not enough RAM?05:07
Bradaphraserand, if so, how could I fix that, outside of buying more RAM?05:07
vox754SilentDis: now, how do you call a file like this "name:000:hsash:.5.cong"? there, you need the backlash05:07
rowdyubotu: :)05:08
nix_ferretubuntu should work in 256 RAM. Anyone care to confirm this?05:08
SilentDisvox754, lol05:08
Shocka311vox754: so I have a folder named "Type new name of folder" and I need to change ownership to user, how would I do that in terminal?05:08
robtpnix_ferret: i can confirm that it runs pretty acceptably even with 19205:08
Bradaphraserit was working great three days ago05:08
robtpBradaphraser: whats your problem?05:08
curs0ri'm in big trouble05:08
nix_ferretubuntu was loaded 3 days ago?05:08
Bradaphrasermy compy keeps killing itself05:09
curs0ri plugged in the ipod before i installed gtkpod05:09
Bradaphraserin the middle of install05:09
Spitzfirehi i,m new to linux i need help loadin programs05:09
robtpBradaphraser: at the same step, or after awhile?05:09
__mikemBradaphraser, you should have your computer committed05:09
BradaphraserI was reinstalling, because it suddenly wouldn't boot Yesterday morning05:09
dthackerrowdy, I have not used this package myself, but my first troubleshooting step is *always* to read the logs05:09
BradaphraserI agree05:09
rowdythe server's not starting..when i run ejabberdctl register i get this http://pastebin.ca/29517605:09
SilentDisnix_ferret, I have ubuntu running on a 256 MiB machine.  it installed and ran just fine.  just recently swapped out a module and made it a 384 MiB machine, but yes, it works/installs fine.  a bit slow, but what do you expect?  lol05:09
SilentDisnix_ferret, just make SURE you give a healthy swap space to it, and you're fine.05:09
Bradaphraserafter a wjo;e05:09
Bradaphraserwoah05:09
Bradaphraserafter a while, I mean05:09
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Bradaphraser(stupid fingers were on the wrong keys)05:09
robtpBradaphraser: but not the same part?05:09
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Bradaphrasernot always, no05:10
robtpBradaphraser: i have that problem all the time i switch between dvorak and qwerty it gets pretty weird05:10
Bradaphraserthough I have been using multiple05:10
BradaphraserCDs05:10
rowdydthacker: the other thing is that the logs are empty05:10
nix_ferretDid you install anything new? Printer? Scanner?05:10
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robtpBradaphraser: it kinda sounds like a hardware issue but its hard to say without seeing it05:10
SilentDisSpitzfire, what program are you trying to 'load'?  are you having problems running programs?  installing them?05:10
curs0rlsusb |grep Apple shows the device present but it is not mounted and i don't know how to either mount it for gtkpod or stop the device so i can unplug it05:10
Bradaphraseron the Xubuntu install, it's pretty consistently at the same point05:10
vox754Shocka311: just like you have it, "sudo chmod <---> 'File whate evr asdjnda' " obviously without the external quotes, and <---> are your permissions05:10
Spitzfirelike a irc client05:10
Bradaphraseryeah, I was afraid of that05:10
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nix_ferreterr afraid of what?05:11
Spitzfiresilent can i call you s to keep this short05:11
robtpcurs0r: dapper, edgy or what?05:11
curs0rrobtp, edgy05:11
Bradaphraserit being an hardware problem05:11
curs0rsorry05:11
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Bradaphraserbecuase that'll end up costing me money05:11
SilentDis!who | Spitzfire05:11
ubotuSpitzfire: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say, or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)05:11
Bradaphraserand I'm freaking broke05:11
robtpBradaphraser: try doing a memory scan, look for memtest86 or its on the cd05:11
reiatzuBradaphraser: why?05:11
Bradaphraser(which is why I use ubuntu ;) )05:11
SilentDisSpitzfire, you're looking to install an IRC client, correct?05:11
Spitzfireyes s05:11
nix_ferretBradaphraser, remove all your usb stuff too, like printers and such.05:12
robtpcurs0r: does it show up in amarok, banshee, etc or on your desktop?05:12
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rowdyany ideas05:12
nix_ferretDid you install anything new?05:12
Bradaphrasermemory scan is an option on bootup, right?05:12
Spitzfirei,m fronm xp05:12
robtpBradaphraser: try using a ps2 mouse and keyboard if you can05:12
robtpBradaphraser: yeah05:12
Spitzfires05:12
BradaphraserI was trying to burn a CD05:12
curs0rrobtp, nowhere...05:12
BradaphraserI don't have anything hooked up to the USB, right now05:12
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curs0rrobtp, i don't have banshee or amarok05:12
robtpcurs0r: whats in dmesg | tail when you plug it in05:12
robtpcurs0r: does it show up in rhythmbox05:12
ddaemonnix_ferret, I'm still having my issue with hanging at fsck, got any ideas?05:13
Spitzfireok i got the irc thing off a free site05:13
Spitzfireput it tmp05:13
jumbersWhat tends to be a good FTP server daemon? I'm running proftpd, but I don't know if there's something better out there05:13
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SilentDisSpitzfire, put my name at the start of your comment, and it'll be easier for me to sift out, and I won't miss your comments :)  on the default Ubuntu 6.10 install, you HAVE an irc client in Gaim.  Just create an IRC account in it.  that'll get you by for now.  after that, there's xchat, and, if you're feeling adventurous, bitchx05:13
curs0rSCSI device sdd: 1982464 2048-byte hdwr sectors (4060 MB) <-- does that mean i mount sdd?05:13
Bradaphraserk, well thanks for all the help, guys,05:13
Shocka311vox754: so would this be what I would type? chown user /home/user/"Type name of new folder"05:13
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Bradaphraserit's still installing ok05:13
Spitzfirenow i guess i need to compile05:13
Bradaphraserhopefully it'll decide to work05:13
vox754Bradaphraser: Come on, you are eating the entire screen with your chatting. Take your time to write a nice long paragraph that everybody has time to read.05:13
Spitzfireok05:14
nix_ferretddaemon, you booted recover?05:14
nix_ferretrecovery?05:14
SilentDisSpitzfire, there's a HUGE number of irc clients available in easy to use repositories in Ubuntu.  no need to compile one by hand yourself.05:14
craigbass1976Can anyone recommend a simple photo editing program?  Something like the one that comes with a new dell?05:14
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ddaemonnix_ferret,05:14
ddaemonyes I did05:14
Spitzfiresilentdis i never done that before05:14
dthackerrowdy: the app mailing list has several hits with similar errors.  I suggest you post there.05:14
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jumberscraigbass1976: GIMP is fairly easy to use05:15
alex-weejcraigbass1976: f-spot05:15
robtpcurs0r: you could try it, nothing in rhythmbox?05:15
ddaemonno problems doing that05:15
Bradaphrasersorry, I'm used to smaller rooms.  I don't usually post in big ones like this.  I'll try to post a little-less spastically.05:15
nix_ferretcraigbass1976, I've been using digikam - it's good05:15
craigbass1976I use GIMP, but it's like pounding a finish nail with a wrecking ball05:15
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nix_ferrethe said "Dell" not cray.05:15
SilentDisSpitzfire, for example, right now, I'm using XChat.  it's rather basic, and has few 'bells and whistles'.  I use BitchX as well, when I'm at a terminal.  both were installed without compiling from source, just used apt package system to get them and install them for me.05:15
_|-hello guys05:15
rowdydthacker: how do do that05:15
SilentDisSpitzfire, what IRC client do you want to try?  Gaim, XChat, BitchX?05:15
Spitzfiresilentdis this will be the first time i loaded anynew program on the thing05:16
robtpis there a better alternative to xchat-gnome? im not a big fan05:16
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Spitzfirewhat ever looks good05:16
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curs0rrobtp, i see nothing to indicate an ipod in rb05:16
Spitzfirei one bouncer one05:16
SilentDisSpitzfire, I'd recommend XChat.  gives a bit more power than Gaim does, and is still fairly easy to use.05:16
craigbass1976robtp, regular xchat? or that's still no good?05:16
craigbass1976robtp, I didn't liek the gnome version either05:16
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nix_ferretddaemon, I would boot recovery again and see this:http://adminschoice.com/docs/fsck.htm05:17
dthackerrowdy: Use google to search for the home page of jabber.  Find the jabberd mailing list and follow the instructions to join.05:17
BakefyCan someone help me create a password for my Samba Share.  I have been looking on ubuntu's tutorial and I still can't get it.05:17
Spitzfiredis i,m on vmware too05:17
robtpcurs0r: try mounting it then05:17
rowdydthacker: thanks will do05:17
SilentDisSpitzfire, you can use the Synaptic Package Manger (system > Administration > Synaptic) if you prefer to use a GUI, otherwise, the fast way is to open up a terminal window, and type "sudo apt-get install xchat" (without the quotes, of course)05:17
robtpcraigbass1976: what do you use? standard xchat? which i dont like too much either...05:17
nix_ferretget fsck to run and see what it pukes on05:17
BradaphraserIt got to 65% percent, beeped, and then did a kill all05:17
maddashI'm running a 500 mhz x86 w/192 ram. how can I get my ubuntu server setup to boot faster? it takes about 00:1:30 right now05:17
craigbass1976robtp, yes, just regular xchat.  I'm just used to it I guess.05:18
nix_ferretBradaphraser, Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!11105:18
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BradaphraserI've been doing that all day for two days.  ;)05:18
kitcherobtp: well the irc clietns that are morepowerful are cli05:18
Spitzfirewhere do you type the commands05:18
robtpcraigbass1976: i like konversation when i use kde, but im bothered by mixing and im on gnome now05:18
jbroomemaddash: don't cut it off05:18
nix_ferretI think it jumped the shark man.05:18
maddashjbroome: what?05:18
curs0rrobtp, mount -t vfat /dev/sdd2 /media/ipod worked, thanks for your help05:18
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Spitzfireteminal is how i unziped the tar05:19
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SilentDismaddash, that is VERY quick for a machine with only 192mb ram and a 500mhz processor.05:19
Spitzfirebut it in tmp05:19
Spitzfirefolder05:19
jbroomemaddash: i'm sorry, i was responding to your question05:19
dthackermaddash: you are at your hw limits.05:19
robtpcurs0r: see if you can figure out why its not mounting automatically (which i tihnk it should, mine does)05:19
maddashSilentDis: xp boots in 30 s.05:19
craigbass1976robtp, I've only used one other in linux, and I can't remember what it's called.  It was on a DSL boot cd.  There's chatzilla, ever tried that?05:19
jbroomewon't happen again05:19
NICKAcan someone please help me with my vmware05:19
Spitzfireput it in the tmp05:19
SilentDis!who | Spitzfire05:19
ubotuSpitzfire: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say, or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)05:19
maddashdthacker: for linux, you mean?05:19
Shocka311would this be the correct comand to change ownership of a file named Type name of new folder?  ""sudo chown user /home/user/"Type name of new folder"05:19
robtpcraigbass1976: havent, ill give it a try though05:19
BradaphraserSo, should I just take this to Geeksquad, or buy a motherboard, or get a credit card and buy another giant paperweight?05:19
nix_ferretcraigbass1976, seriously though, digikam is good for organizing and editing photos. Make sure you install the scripts for it too.05:19
Spitzfiremind if i pm silentdis05:19
nix_ferret???GIMP is poo for that.05:20
robtpcraigbass1976: oh right the xul one haha05:20
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curs0rrobtp, now i just have to figure out how to safely unplug it05:20
SilentDisSpitzfire, I'm TRYING hard to keep up here... so I apologize if I missed something.  you can install xchat by opening a terminal (applications > accessories > terminal).  then type this in:  sudo apt-get install xchat05:20
craigbass1976nix_ferret, I'm installing f-spot, then I'll do digikam and see which one the wife likes better.05:20
nix_ferretBradaphraser, Geeksquad?!!! I would rather you kill me05:20
dthackermaddash: no, I mean that your hardware will probably not boot any faster.   Faster hardware will boot faster.05:20
SilentDisSpitzfire, it's general policy here to keep stuff in channel, so others can learn :)05:20
kitcheBradaphraser: well if you have Linux on your computer GeekSquad won't know how to work with it really05:20
Bradaphraserok, then I'll mark that off the list ;)05:20
robtpcurs0r: umount it05:20
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maddashdthacker: did you not see my previous msg? xp boots in under a minute, and windows nt boots in < 45 s05:21
NICKAim in geek squad05:21
craigbass1976I'm still blown away by how much software there is in the repos.  Way more than fedora...05:21
robtpcraigbass1976: what did you think about chatzilla? which im installing now05:21
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LameBMXyay .. i got spdif workin easier than i thought05:21
NICKAim learning linux myself05:21
maddashthere's gotta be some stuff I can cut out05:21
curs0rrobtp, i can just unplug it then?05:21
NICKAmy co workers no nothing about it05:21
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craigbass1976I liked it, and used it in Windows (you have to pay for windows xchat)  Since I liked it though, and like xchat, you may not like it.05:21
nix_ferretBradaphraser, build yourself a real damned computer.05:21
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LameBMXNICKA,05:22
SilentDismaddash, there's a LOT more going on 'under the hood' as it were, in linux.  the file system, for one, is a lot different than either of those OSs you listed, so it's gonna take time to pull it up properly, with all it's journalizing and such05:22
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craigbass1976robtp, I find them similar05:22
willys_fueguinoIs there an alternative to gdmflexiserver??05:22
tonyyarussocraigbass1976: unofficail xchat builds are free05:22
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curs0rrobtp, because it's flashing do not unplug on the screen05:22
nix_ferretBradaphraser, wait till after pay day and go on to newegg.com05:22
robtpcurs0r: youre not "supposed to" but you can if you want to really, i usually avoid it05:22
craigbass1976tonyyarusso, I never thought of that...05:22
robtpcurs0r: yeah, that doesnt mean too much unless youre transferring something... its not good to do but its probabyl going to be harmless05:22
LameBMXNICKA, thats luv ... im a nix noob but i always wanted to call out geek squad and make them remove a virus .. with a hidden cam ... :) and no software allowed to touch my pc05:22
curs0rrobtp, how do i avoid it?05:22
dthackermaddash: Silent Dis is right.05:22
tonyyarussocraigbass1976: silverex is good05:22
Bradaphraserwell, I've never built a computer before05:22
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Bradaphraserbut I'll look into that05:23
Winterawright, so i have a 680i motherboard with onboard sound. I have been using that for some time, but recently purchased a new m-audio revolution sound card and stuck it in. However, i can't seem to figure out how to make it play anything... i can see it through lspci and select the hardware in, ie, xmms, but it refuses to actually do anything and kicks out errors depending on what i select05:23
robtpcurs0r: did you umount /dev/sdd2 (or what it was?)05:23
curs0rrobtp, send a command to ehci to stop it or something?05:23
cellofellowcan you tell me why I get an Error 1 when I boot the multiuser kernels in this menu.lst?: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39277/05:23
craigbass1976LameBMX, that would be a youtube vid I'd watch.  Do it!05:23
curs0rrobtp,  yes i did05:23
LameBMXroflmao05:23
dthackerLameBMX: ++05:23
abhinayHow to install AntiVirus in Ubuntu Edgy ?05:23
robtpcurs0r: then its just buggin and youre fine unplugging it05:23
h3xisabhinay, you dont need one05:23
curs0rrobtp, thanks you're a mensch05:23
LameBMXsad thing is .. i work contract stylee for compusa05:23
violotAnti-virus is for pansies05:23
Madpilotabhinay, why waste time with an antivirus on Linux?05:23
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abhinayh3xis, i need to scan the windows drives05:24
craigbass1976LameBMX, especially cool if you got one of the WMs that look just like XP...05:24
wastrel"ubuntu"05:24
nix_ferretabhinay, it's called clamav05:24
h3xisabhinay, server?05:24
LameBMXyeppers ... i ran windows forever with no av or firewall ... when i did get caught ... it was a challenge that taught me how much of a rip-off av software is05:24
abhinayh3xis, no, my friends hard disk05:24
tannerldcraigbass1976: icky, it doesn't detect my network card :E05:24
nix_ferretav is for ppl like my dad.05:24
SilentDisrobtp, Linux, by it's nature, is a bit less prone to virii than windows.  having said that, it's 'nice' to protect others from being a ferry-point for trojans.  you probably won't get a virus with Ubuntu.  but if you want, you can install avast, they've got a linux client.05:24
LameBMXcraigbass1976, beryl baby ...05:24
craigbass1976tannerld, Balls.  Did you just edit that file, or do something else?05:25
SilentDisrobtp, let me dig around, I just saw an article on it in an Ubuntu-related blog...05:25
LameBMXcraigbass1976, it owns vista .. i was runnin eval version till i up and decided to give ubuntu a test drive05:25
robtpSilentDis: youre talking to the wrong person :)05:25
tannerldcraigbass1976: I tried, not sure if its right.05:25
abhinaynix_ferret, does clamav work for desktop also ?05:25
robtpabhinay: read what SilentDis was saying to me05:25
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robtpabhinay: clamav is usually meant for servers but it works fine on a desktop as well05:25
craigbass1976tannerld, I'm wondering if there is more to it than just adding a line ot that file.05:25
SilentDisrobtp, i'm so sorry, damn sylisdexia05:26
cellofellowcan you tell me why I get an Error 1 when I boot the multiuser kernels in this menu.lst?: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39277/05:26
SilentDisabhinay, check this link out:  http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/UbuntuTutorials/~3/67039393/05:26
craigbass1976ANYONE know how to get a network card installed of the UBUNTU install was done without configuring it?05:26
robtprobtp: youre not going to see much in the way of linux virii, but it can be nice to use clamav to prevent yourself from infecting friends as a transmitting intermediary if you get what i mean05:26
curs0rrobtp, turns out that's a known issue with newer nanos... huh05:26
tannerldcraigbass1976: probably, we tried the install cd again to configure the internet that way, no detction :\05:26
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LameBMXcellofellow, can you describe ur problem ..05:26
nix_ferretabhinay, it should be in the package installer, I could have sworn I saw it05:26
robtpcurs0r: the lack of recognizance or the d/c problem? or both?05:27
craigbass1976tannerld, that blows.  What's the motherboard and card?05:27
curs0rthe failure to automount05:27
robtpcurs0r: was it showing in gtkpod after you mounted it?05:27
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LameBMXcellofellow, line 71 groot=(hd0,0) ... so the grub home dir is on the same partition as windows?05:27
abhinaySilentDis, thank you :)05:27
curs0rgtkpod works fine but it doesn't create the mountpoint it wants on install05:27
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Shocka311I can't get this file changed to my ownership. Can someone help?05:27
cellofellowLameBMX: no windows05:28
Bradaphraserwell, thanks again05:28
tannerldcraigbass1976: not sure of the motherboard, but the card is a Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit (quick google search finds that I'm not the only one with troubles with this on any distrib.)05:28
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cellofellowLameBMX: just Ubuntu05:28
Bradaphraserbe excellent to each other, and party on dudes05:28
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curs0rrobtp, gtkpod wanted to see it in /media/ipod and didn't have a way to change that in the gui05:28
LameBMXcellofellow, ahhh k doh nvm ...05:28
vox754Shocka311: sorry, it's windy in here, loss of connection05:28
RoC_MM_0w2Anybody know if the unix2dos or dos2unix packages are in ubuntu?  I have both multiverse and universe and I don't see them.05:28
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SilentDisBradaphraser, thanks, now a certain Kiss song is stuck in my head because of you :P05:28
Shocka311vox754: no worries05:28
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LameBMXcellofellow, i just edit the automagic sectiond .. do grub-update .. and double check after that .. so no updates make my comp not boot lol05:29
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alienseer23I am having major sound issues, lots of error messages, and no sound at all, I get an error when trying to test sound in gnome, I get an error when trying to open alsamixer, media is not playing to default sound card, but I can isolate chanells with xmms and play to them, just not to the card as a whole. can anyone help me get my sound back??05:29
HawklineTwinxor where is Twinxor05:29
netboixIf I am currently using xp and am planning on dual booting... where do i install grub at the end of my ubuntu install... the default location seemed to give me an eror05:29
Shocka311vox754: so would this work? chown user /home/user/"Type name of new folder"05:29
AscHow might I start X without a window manager?  Like, just with the b/w hatched background.05:29
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LameBMXand i think i should just goto bed now ... cuz lookin back im not makin any sense to meself either05:29
cellofellowLameBMX: I don't understand05:29
craigbass1976tannerld, sorry man.  That's weird, because there was a bunch of new broadcom chipset support added to 2.6.17 kernel.05:29
RoC_MM_0w2Anybody know if the unix2dos or dos2unix packages are in ubuntu?  I have both multiverse and universe and I don't see them.05:29
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robtpcurs0r: you can mount /dev/blah blah blah /media/ipod to please it05:30
AscI mean, without something like, e.g. gnome, kde, or ion05:30
Shocka311vox754: did you get that?05:30
wastrelubuuuuuuntu05:30
nix_ferretNight, good luck ppl05:30
curs0rrobtp, did dat ;)05:30
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tannerldcraigbass1976: does edgy use a different kernal than the last version (i'm using the last versions's install cd)?05:30
LameBMXcellofellow, .. what kind of errors are you getting05:30
SilentDisRoC_MM_0w2, what do those packages do?  maybe something similar is.  I've never herd of them.05:30
wastrel2.6.17-10-generic05:30
curs0rrobtp, can one just add mp3 files to an ipod and do away with amarok/banshee/gtkpod?05:30
wastrel^^ edgy05:30
craigbass1976tannerld, uname -a will tell you what kernel you have.05:30
vox754Shocka311: no, problems... with... internet... not... gonna... make.. it...05:30
Shocka311vox754: lol05:31
RoC_MM_0w2SilentDis: they convert files from DOS format to UNIX format.05:31
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RoC_MM_0w2oh05:31
RoC_MM_0w2I think I found it05:31
RoC_MM_0w2it might be in sysutils05:31
cellofellowLameBMX: Error 1. But only when try to boot the non-recovery-mode kernels.05:31
RoC_MM_0w2I'll be back if it's not05:31
NICKAi cant get vmware server to install it keeps saying i have a previous version but i dont :(05:31
craigbass1976tannerld, I'm in dapper (2.15....)05:31
SilentDisRoC_MM_0w2, such as...05:31
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SilentDisRoC_MM_0w2, like a text file or the like?  or am I missing something...05:31
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tannerldcraigbass1976: I'll download the edgy install cd just in case (and give me something to do...)05:32
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netboixIf I am currently using xp and am planning on dual booting... where do i install grub at the end of my ubuntu install... the default location seemed to give me an eror05:32
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BakefyCan anyone here help me with samba?  the ubuntu site is confusing me.05:33
LameBMXcellofellow, comment out the hiddenmenu option ... then hit e and remove quiet and splash .. hit enter and see where it errors from there05:33
LameBMXdont know if u tried that05:33
curs0rBakefy, what's up?05:33
cellofellowk05:33
LameBMXcellofellow, also try puttin timeout to like 30 seconds and waiting05:33
dthackernetboix: what is the error?05:34
SilentDisnetboix, the default location would be hd0.  usually, you have windows on the first partition, and ubuntu on the second, right?05:34
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Bakefycurs0r: Thanks,  I am trying to create a username and password for all of my smb shares05:34
Bakefywindows will not connect if I don't have a username and password05:34
netboixSilentDis: yes that is correct... but it seems that i have no hd005:34
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netboixdthacker: leme look real quick05:34
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LameBMXi get all kinds of weird crap if i make it through that menu too fast ... i just let it select the os itself and it boots okay .. but i got it for 30secs on mine ... worth a shot05:34
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curs0rBakefy, would you rather not have a password?05:34
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SilentDisnetboix, what dthacker said:  "what is the error?" :)05:35
Bakefyyeah05:35
curs0rBakefy, i thought that might be the case05:35
LameBMXright he lefttededed05:35
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Bakefycurs0r: I can connect with other non windows devices with no trouble05:35
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vox754I also have a minor problem with GRUB. I can't use "grub> find /boot/grub/stage1"; It gives me "Error:15"; I can boot, it's just that it gives me that message.05:35
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Bakefycurs0r: I have been told that windows NEEDS a username and password, or it wont ever attempt05:36
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curs0rBakefy, did you edit /etc/samba/smb.conf?05:36
curs0rBakefy, not true, i got it to work05:36
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Bakefycurs0r: I  have only changed the work group05:36
netboixSilentDis: so even if my first hd is hda it still should be installed on hd0?05:36
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Bakefycurs0r: I  have XP by the way...05:36
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curs0rBakefy, ok you need to edit a setting in /etc/samba/smb.conf05:37
melon_guys.. when i do: sudo apt-get build-dep ffmpeg <-- i get a "could not open file etcetc - open (2 No such file or directory) <-- did i break something?05:37
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SilentDisnetboix, grub lists HDs differently.  HD0, HD1 and so on.  it's looking at the MBR (master boot record) not the partition spaces05:37
oktayhi. anybody know if dhcpd can call a script when the connection is lost and regained?05:37
curs0rBakefy, there is a section in that file called authentication05:37
netboixSilentDis: ok leme run it on the default again and see what the error is05:37
SilentDismelon_, could you pastebin the whole error?05:38
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SilentDis!pastebin | melon_05:38
ubotumelon_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:38
oktaywould /etc/network/if-up.d be involved here or does it only get run the first time the network is up?05:38
curs0runder that line if you see a line that says security = user i want you to place a # in front of that line05:38
curs0rBakefy, under that line if you see a line that says security = user i want you to place a # in front of that line05:38
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netboixSilentDis: the only reason i ask is taht the installer is listing my ide1 master as hda and grub wnats to install on hd005:38
melon_http://paste2.org/p/70405:38
netboixshould i let it go there"?05:39
curs0rBakefy, if you don't see that line or if it already has a # that's ok05:39
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SilentDisnetboix, that's proper, yes05:39
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curs0rBakefy, then once you take care of that add security = share and save the file05:39
Bakefycurs0r thats already been done.05:39
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Bakefycurs0r okay I will try that05:39
SilentDisnetboix, HD0 is the first hard drive found, usually, specified by the bios.  usually it means IDE port 0, master drive.05:40
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RoC_MM_0wthe package name is tofrodos05:40
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Bakefycurs0r:  ";   security = user"05:40
Bakefyis currently what I see, is ; a blocked charactor05:40
curs0rBakefy, put a # in front of it05:40
netboixSilentDis: ok lets see if ig et the error05:41
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KiraDoes somebody know of a mail client that can send new mail messages to stdout non-interactively?05:41
SilentDisnetboix, ok :)05:41
Gun_SmokeThe ./pool/main/u/ubuntu=artwork/ubuntu=_28_all.deb file failed the MD% checksum verification.  Your CD-ROM or this file may have been corrupted.  What does that mean?05:41
Bakefyokay i just saved it05:41
curs0rthen on its own line security = share with no #05:41
Bakefytime to check05:41
curs0rwait05:41
Bakefyit worked05:41
Bakefyi fucking love you05:41
curs0roh, ok05:42
curs0rlol05:42
Bakefythanks man!05:42
curs0rput in a good word for me with god05:42
Bakefyif I make it there first I will05:42
curs0rlol05:42
curs0ryeah that info is priceless ain't it?05:43
Bakefythanks again, im going to enjoy and map some new drives!05:43
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alienseer23could someone put my name in here so I can see if I get sound, please?05:44
kitche alienseer23 ?05:44
alienseer23yippie!!!05:44
alienseer23thankl you05:44
curs0ralienseer23,05:44
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curs0ralienseer23,05:45
alienseer23I have been wrestling with my sound for 2 days05:45
curs0rhehehe i couldn't help it05:45
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alienseer23it's music to my ears05:45
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alienseer23to just have clear sound05:45
curs0reverybody sam his sound server! lol05:45
alienseer23and Zappa05:45
curs0rspam*05:45
alienseer23no!05:45
curs0r;)05:46
gumpppy3has anybody had problems accessing yahoo mail using mozilla firefox?05:46
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jbroomegumpppy3: nope, and i'm using a bunch of scriptblocker/adblocker extensions too05:47
alienseer23Q: does anyone know a simple way to enable 5.1 sound by default?05:47
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NICKAWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running05:48
NICKAkernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 05:48
gumpppy3thanks jbroome for the reply05:48
NICKAthats not the directory does anyone know off hand05:48
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jaszhello all05:48
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NICKAfor vmserver05:48
kitcheNICKA: /usr/include/linux05:48
kitcheNICKA: but you also have ot install them also05:48
jaszanyone here knows how to remove DRM from some files I bought through the Itunes Store?05:48
OlatheIs it a bad idea to remove the /etc/hosts line with 127.0.1.1 ?05:48
NICKAoh05:48
jaszor how can I play them using Rhythmbox?05:48
NICKAhow do i install them05:49
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h3xisOlathe, yes05:49
NICKAits for vmware server05:49
SilentDisjasz, recent versions of iTunes pull in via version 6, and I don't think there's a crack out there for that yet...05:50
Olatheh3xis: What is 127.0.1.1 used for ?05:50
h3xisthat's localhost05:50
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OlatheNot 127.0.0.105:50
NICKAman im stuck i cant install vmware05:50
OlatheBut 127.0.1.105:50
h3xisOlathe, ahhh05:50
jasz:(05:50
h3xisOlathe, is that all that's there?05:50
OlatheThe line is 127.0.1.1 myboxsname05:51
artbird309NICKA: you install in from apt-get install05:51
h3xisi think that's the loopback device05:51
NICKAoh05:51
NICKAyou know that cmd?05:51
NICKAim kind of a noob05:51
h3xisOlathe, i think it's safe to keep, but i'm not sure if it's a good idea to remove05:51
NICKAim on the forum thread for this vmware and i donno05:52
artbird309NICKA: let me boot my computer up05:52
kitche!vmware|NICKA05:52
ubotuNICKA: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare05:52
NICKAok05:52
kitcheNICKA: you probably want VMware server05:52
NICKAyea05:53
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NICKAthats what im installing05:53
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NICKAvmware server05:53
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kitcheNICKA: you using that link?05:53
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NICKAyea05:53
NICKAim reading it05:53
__davidhello, does edgy eft support live growing of ext3 filesystems?05:53
NICKAwill you be around?05:53
OlatheApparently, it's for when you use DHCP: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2005/06/msg01047.html05:53
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artbird309NICKA: who05:54
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klypsohey, anyone know how to set up a dual boot with GRUB?05:55
NICKAyou guys05:55
klypsoI keep getting the same error.05:55
NICKAartbird or kitche05:55
NICKAyoug uys are great help with the link05:55
kitcheI m around I went to the instructions to install05:55
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NICKAim reading  a bit ill brb05:55
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digip1mpdoes anyone know why ubuntuforums uses vbulletin instead of phpbb?...  isn't that kind of anti-foss? (just occurred to me that this is kind of funny)05:56
klypsoBooting 'Microsoft Windows XP home edition'05:56
klypsoroot (hd0,0)05:56
klypsoFilesystem type unknown, partition type 0x705:56
klypsosavedefault05:56
klypsomakeactive05:56
klypsoError 29: Disk write error05:56
kitchedigip1mp: phpbb can easily be hacked05:57
klypsooops, didn't mean to spam05:57
__davidyes? > flaviorbeiro05:57
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ddaemonwhat is the reason for using this construct in a shell script? if [ x$VAR != x] ; then...05:57
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levanderWhat user group do I have to be in to use the applications on the System -> Administration menu?05:57
digip1mpkitche: really?05:58
klypsoanyone know how to fix that?05:58
wastrellevander:  admin05:58
NICKAwhen i did what it said for the kenral version type05:58
NICKAit said folder doesnt exist05:59
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willys_fueguinoHow can i switch users on xubuntu edgy?06:00
NICKAman you guys stil here.. seems like im screwed06:01
NICKA:(06:01
artbird309NICKA: what happened06:02
NICKAit said06:02
NICKAthe directory doesnt exist06:02
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klypsoanyone know how to set up a dual boot with linux06:02
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tonyyarusso!dualboot | klypso06:03
ubotuklypso: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)06:03
klypso!dualboot ?06:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dualboot ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:03
klypsothanks06:03
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artbird309NICKA: did you install the linux-heaaders06:03
NICKAi dont know how06:03
cerridwen-a ;)06:03
NICKAso im assuming no lol06:03
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artbird309NICKA: you need to install that first06:04
willys_fueguinoHow can i switch users on xubuntu edgy?06:04
NICKAok06:04
NICKAhold on i found something06:04
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cerridwenchange between existing users?06:04
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NICKAsudo apt-get install linux-headers-***06:04
artbird309NICKA: yes06:04
NICKAsweet06:04
NICKAwhat are the headers anyway?06:05
levanderI created the admin group and added myself to it.  When I run the groups command, admin does show up in the output.  However, when I run user-admin from the Administration window, I still get: "You are not allowed access to the system configuration."06:05
klypsoI get this error with grup:06:05
klypso'Booting 'Microsoft Windows XP home edition'06:05
klypsoroot (hd0,0)06:05
klypsoFilesystem type unknown, partition type 0x706:05
klypsosavedefault06:05
klypsomakeactive06:05
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klypsoError 29: Disk write error06:05
levanderAny ideas what else to try?06:05
wastrellevander:  it is strange that an admin group didn't already exist on your system, since it is part of the default configuration06:05
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NICKAok all installed06:06
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NICKAlet me try now06:06
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levanderwastrel: I installed way back in the warty days.  That may have something to do with it.  But, do you know which package creates the admin group?06:06
willys_fueguinoso no one can help me??06:06
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LameBMXklypso, did ya pastbin your menu.lst file?06:06
wastrellevander:  it you should examine your /etc/sudoers file, look for:   %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL06:06
levanderwastrel: I am upgraded to edgy now.06:06
crimsunwillys_fueguino: did you provide any additional info after the reboot?06:07
wastrellevander:  if not visudo and add it06:07
klypsoLameBMX: sorry, that is what?06:07
netboixdoes anyone here use madwifi?06:07
levanderwastrel: it says "levander ALL=(ALL) ALL" - is that close enough?  levander is my user name06:07
LameBMXklypso, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ... nano /boot/grub/menu.lst06:07
SilentDiswillys_fueguino, i've not used xubuntu yet, and I'm not familiar with xcfe.  let me look around the web a little.06:07
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MathewIs there a way to change the look of alt+tab application switching?06:08
alienseer23could someone take a look at this and tell me if there is anything I can do to fix my 5.1?.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39279/06:08
willys_fueguinocrimsun: I've got the same messages...06:08
willys_fueguinogdmflexiserver just wont run...06:08
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willys_fueguinoI'm going crazy with this....06:08
crimsunalienseer23: use -Dplug:surround51, not -Dsurround5106:08
wastrellevander:  seemingly it is not enough :]   i don't know specifically if gksudo or whatever the system->administration menu uses  needs that admin business, but it's not working now... so why not try adding it :] 06:08
alienseer23crimsun: ok06:09
defiantMay I ask, has anyone ever heard of Freespire?06:09
klypsohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39280/06:09
noiesmodefiant, yes its linspire's free version06:09
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defiantnoiesmo have you ever used it or heard anything about it. it looks nice.06:09
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levanderwastrel: tried editing it with visudo, ran users-admin, same thing06:10
jpun_operateur -- Thanks for your help .... my /etc/apt/sources.list works great now .... just like it should (|;-) a tip 'o the hat to ye!06:10
arrenlexHow do people make commercial versions of Linux? Doesn't the fact that the kernel is GPL prevent them from releasing anything that uses the Linux kernel under anything other than the GPL?06:10
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klypsoLameBMX: know what to fix?06:10
SilentDiswillys_fueguino, from what I can tell, just log out/back in to switch users.06:10
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alienseer23crimsun: pretty much more of the same ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39281/06:10
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arrenlexdefiant: It's KDE. It looks just like kubuntu.06:10
noiesmodefiant, installed once was pretty bt you can mod kde or gnome to look good anywy and was a pain to add certain things like video and mp3 suport from memory06:10
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wastrellevander:  log out & back in again?06:11
defiantnoiesmo, Thanks.06:11
levanderwastrel: brb06:11
crimsunalienseer23: what did you do to alsa-lib and your asoundrcs?06:11
alienseer23crimsun: I have no idea06:11
LameBMXklypso,06:11
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LameBMXklypso, ill repost it with a proposed change06:12
klypsook06:12
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levanderwastrel: same damn thing06:12
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crimsunalienseer23: that's fairly unhelpful. What did you do? What steps did you take?06:12
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willys_fueguinoSilentDis: Doesn't works... if I do that the programs keep running, but I cant see them06:13
NICKAdamn after all this i get some error06:13
alienseer23mostly just tried to edit .asoundrc, but reverted it back06:13
NICKAwhat the crap06:13
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crimsunalienseer23: so pastebin your asoundrc(s)06:13
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alienseer23there is only one06:13
artbird309NICKA: put it in here  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/06:13
wastrellevander:  i dunno - i'm a big dummy :]    how about running  users-admin  from the cli?06:14
NICKAok06:14
willys_fueguinocrimsun: I'm reading about a FUSA app (fast user switch applet), but I think it relies on gdmflexiserver06:14
LameBMXklypso, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39282/06:14
NICKAill run through and get the error again real quick06:14
LameBMXklypso, rootnoverify ..06:14
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artbird309NICKA: ok06:14
alienseer23crimsun: there is nothing there right now06:14
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klypsoLameBMX: i'll replace it, then reboot and see what happens.06:15
klypsoLameBMX: thanks.06:15
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LameBMXklypso, dont forget to backup the original06:15
LameBMXnever replace ..06:15
NICKAoh crap06:16
klypsoLameBMX: right, right06:16
NICKAit worked i need a serial06:16
eegoreIt still wants to hog the mic input but I can live with that06:16
NICKAill registure real quick06:16
eegorewell, I got teamspeak to work through the linux32 command chained to the aoss command and it is stable06:16
alienseer23crimsun: here is asoundrc.asoundconf~ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39283/06:16
LameBMXtook me enough screwups to figure that one out06:16
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crimsunalienseer23: ~/.asoundrc* , please.06:17
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alienseer23crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39284/06:18
alienseer23I tried to do this, earlier : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26131706:18
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Simplechatwithin ubuntu, i've heard that it doesn't have a root account06:18
Zelusguys, i have a noob question. I just installed 6.10 on my inspiron 8200 but i can get the wireless to work, i see the signal strenth (77%) but hte status is disconnected. :(06:18
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Simplechatyet you seem to have to enter your password to do system admin tasks06:18
Simplechatso, is your account a virtual root?06:18
levanderwastrel: thanks for your help, i'm reading a bug report on launchpad, I think it was adding the admin group, and then having to restart dbus with the init.d script06:19
willys_fueguinocrimsun: the fast-user-switch-applet is on the repos.. but if I apt-get it it tries to install the gnome-desktop06:19
willys_fueguino:-06:19
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wastrelSimplechat:  the root account exists but doesn't have a password enabled.  the sudo system exists to allow you to perform system administration tasks.06:20
netboixI am attempting to follow these instructions http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1818971&postcount=6  but was wondering i only have the 6.10 installation cd and when i attempt to apt-get it tells me could not find the package and deos not ask for the cd.06:20
alienseer23crimsun: I also gave this a try http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~bondhugu/alsamch.shtml06:20
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alienseer23crimsun: this is the last thing I tried http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39285/06:22
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fierceHey all.. i've got a problem I cant solve.  I am running a process but want to log out and keep it running, but I forgot to screen it.  How can I transfer this to a screen?  I tried to 'CTRL+Z' to suspend it, then run screen, then 'fg' inside of screen but it says no process found06:23
fierceHow can I do this?06:23
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fierceHey all.. i've got a problem I cant solve.  I am running a process but want to log out and keep it running, but I forgot to screen it.  How can I transfer this to a screen?  I tried to 'CTRL+Z' to suspend it, then run screen, then 'fg' inside of screen but it says no process found.. How can I do this :(06:24
alienseer23crimsun: there was also an instruction about removing and replacing alsa if your sound was dead, whic it was, so i tried it, and it did not work...i even tried to compile alsa, which failed...so I removed the lot and reinstalled alsa, gdm and ubuntu desktop06:24
fierceerrr06:24
fierceoops sorry for repeat06:24
willys_fueguinofierce: Im trying to do something similar...06:25
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willys_fueguinobut cant do it06:25
fiercewillys_fueguino: darn06:25
willys_fueguino:-(06:25
crimsunalienseer23: I'll help you when I have a moment.06:25
fierceits driving me nuts06:25
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willys_fueguinofierce: me to...06:25
alienseer23ok06:25
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wheels3572What Program is it that I would use to load Windows inside of Linux?06:25
wheels3572that way I dont have to reboot my computer06:25
fiercewheels3572: wine?06:25
wheels3572ok06:26
artbird309wheels3572: vmware06:26
fierceya06:26
fierceor vmware06:26
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willys_fueguinofierce: I want to do something like the "switch users" that windows have06:26
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fierceor isnt there another one.. cedega?06:26
wheels3572ok so it is vmware06:26
fiercewillys_fueguino: nice06:26
willys_fueguinowheels3572: qemu06:26
willys_fueguinoperhaps06:26
wheels3572!vmware06:26
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare06:26
wastrelyou can switch users by going to quit > switch user06:27
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willys_fueguinowastrel: nop06:27
wastreli dunno about 'doze06:27
willys_fueguinowastrel: Im on xubuntu06:27
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willys_fueguinoand I dont have that option06:27
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NICKAi think i got it06:28
NICKAim setting up windows xp06:28
wastreli dunno about xubuntu perhaps the gurus in #xubuntu can assist06:28
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artbird309NICKA: good06:28
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willys_fueguinowastrel: already  tried there...06:28
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willys_fueguinothe gdmflexiserver can do that... but doesnt runs over here06:29
willys_fueguinothen what about gdm loading 2 X sessions??06:29
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wastrelwe have a situation then06:30
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kadkhey, is there any way to turn my debian box into a "network storage"; like everbody in the house(laptop, another pcs,etc) can store files on it just like a regular drive. is it possible for samba to do that?06:30
machunewbie: I recently changed permissions on /etc like this: sudo chown userid:userid  -R /etc    and now i'm getting this: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0.  How do I reverse what I've done to perform sudo commands?06:30
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artbird309kadk: you could install freenas06:31
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kevinis this the right place for monitor questions?06:32
Ascno, but it is a good place for GNU/monitor questions06:32
jumbers What tends to be a good FTP server daemon? I'm running proftpd, but I don't know if there's something better out there06:32
Lathiatjumbers: pro isnt bad06:33
Lathiatjumbers: theres vsftpd, thats ok too06:33
Lathiatjumbers: requires a bit more config tho06:33
artbird309kadk: http://www.freenas.org/06:33
jumbersLathiat: Thanks. :)06:33
Zelusguys, i have a noob question. I just installed 6.10 on my inspiron 8200 but i can get the wireless to work, i see the signal strenth (77%) but the status is disconnected. :( and i cant figure out how to switch it to connected.06:34
jumbersDoes anybody know why Apache2, PHP, and MySQL aren't up to date in the Ubuntu repos?06:34
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levanderDoes anyone know what this avahi daemon is?  When I restart dbus, I get some message that starting the avahi daemon failed.06:34
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LathiatZelus: system->administration->networking ?06:34
wasabi_jumbers: if you mean in Edgy, it's because once it's released, new versions aren't released.06:34
Lathiatlevander: yes avahi is used for service discovery06:34
Dasnipa`jumbers, the repos are updated every 6 months. the only updates that are done in the meantime are security related patches06:35
levanderLathiat: is it supposed to be running on my system?06:35
levanderLathiat: is it supposed to be running by default?06:35
jumbersI thought only kernels were snapshotted06:35
wastrellibavahi-core4 - Avahi's embeddable mDNS/DNS-SD library06:35
wasabi_jumbers: The entire distro is. Edgy is a point in time release.06:35
levanderwasabi_: is the avahi daemon running on your system?06:36
wasabi_levander: Yes.06:36
wastrelseems to be a service discovery daemon06:36
wasabi_Avahi is hte zeroconf daemon.06:36
wasabi_So yes, serviced iscovery.06:36
ZelusLathiat: in there its checked as enabled but i still have no connectivity. in the toolbar util it says disconnected06:36
wastreli don't see avahi on my system.06:36
jumberswasabi_: So in order to keep the latest versions of Apache, PHP, and MySQL, I have to either find repos for each or compile them manually?06:36
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wastrelyes06:36
wasabi_jumbers: Or not care about them as much.06:36
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Lathiatlevander: its installed, but not enabled by default06:37
jumberswasabi_: Well, there tend to be security updates in them06:37
Vuen_hey guys, at what time of day is the stuff in /etc/cron.daily ran? and how can i configure this?06:37
wasabi_Ubuntu backports security related fixes.06:37
levanderWell, hell.  When I run "sudo /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon start", I get no output.  When I run "sudo /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon stop" it says it failed...06:37
wasabi_But only those fixes, not any new features.06:37
wasabi_Just small fixes.06:37
wasabi_You'll find those in edgy-security06:37
Lathiatlevander: ah yeh06:38
willys_fueguinoHow can I load 2 X sessions with gdm?06:38
Lathiatlevander: you can ignore that06:38
Lathiatit doesnt cause any issues06:38
wasabi_It fails to stop, because it's not started.06:38
Lathiatlevander: basically by default it doesnt start, and it cant stop if it wasnt started (hence it 'fails' to stop)06:38
Lathiatbut you can ignore that it doesnt cause any issues06:38
levanderLathiat: so, by default, it's not supposed to run?06:38
Ascwillys_furguino: You've tried gdmflexisserver?06:38
wasabi_levander: Not yet anyways.06:38
wastrelso the boot message is some boot script chattering about avahi but not actually running it presumably.06:38
Dasnipa`jumbers, the reason it is done like that is because it is way too hard to keep up to date with every package possible. look at distros that have tried that... they have failed horribly (namely debian)06:39
wasabi_If you read /etc/default/avahi-daemon, you'll see, it's disabled by default.06:39
levanderwasabi_: okay, cool.  Dunno why it's on my system then...06:39
levanderwasabi_: thanks06:39
wasabi_levander: Another piece of software probably brought it in.06:39
Vuen_nevermind, found it06:39
levanderwasabi_: It would be cool if I could find out which one.06:39
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Lathiatlevander: its installed by default06:40
wasabi_Try removing it, see what wants to go. :)06:40
Lathiatlevander: on edgy06:40
wasabi_Is avahi installed by default on edgy? Didn't know that.06:40
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wasabi_Just not enabled?06:40
Lathiatits just disabled by default06:40
Lathiatcorrect06:40
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wasabi_k06:40
levanderLathiat: so, why did they decide to install it?06:40
Lathiatsystem->administration->networking || "general" tab there is a tickbox to enable it06:40
Lathiatlevander: so it can be easily enabled06:40
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Lathiatin feisty it will be enabled by default06:40
levanderLathiat: "sudo aptitude avahi-daemon" isn't easy enough?06:40
Lathiatno :)06:41
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levanderI guess it isn't, I forgot to put install in that command.06:41
soloikhi06:41
Lathiathaha06:41
levanderLathiat: I read about avahi, it sounds cool, but does anyone use it besides Ubuntu?06:41
Lathiatlevander: lots of people06:41
LathiatFC6, RHEL506:41
Lathiati think it may even be in a debian etch desktop install06:41
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crimsunit's always humorous to ask an upstream developer if his software is even used.06:42
levanderLathiat: okay, so it's becoming more popular...06:42
crimsun=)06:42
Lathiat(FWIW, I'm one of the authors of the project :)06:42
Lathiatlevander: yeh, first version was released ~18 months ago now06:42
Lathiatits gaining in popularity :)06:42
voraistosHello, i have a permission related question... Do we (like in windows if i remember) have a possibility to set diferent permissions for different groups and different users for the same file instead of one user, one group and one everybody else ?06:42
Lathiatits protocol-compatible with the apple bonjour stuff06:42
Lathiatso itunes sharing, etc,06:42
levanderLathiat: so, with avahi, and support on those Linux distros, you could just auto discover all these computers on the network?06:42
Lathiatlevander: correct06:42
wasabi_voraistos: Yes, there are ACLs.06:42
Lathiataltho its not so much to discover the "computers"06:42
Lathiatas services06:43
wasabi_voraistos: There just aren't any good UIs for them.06:43
Lathiatfor example if you have ekiga open, and you open it on another machine, you can see that person in the auto-discovered list to call06:43
levanderLathiat: well, if it's not so much, what's the big deal?06:43
ddaemonwhat configuration sets the options for display resolutions available in the screen resolution preference panel?06:43
wasabi_ddaemon: The graphics card and monitor combo itself, hopefully ;)06:43
voraistoswasabi_ ACLs? can you be more specific ?06:43
Lathiatand in rhythmbox you can enable music sharing (Edit->Preferences->Sharing) then anyone that opens rhythmbox can see your music and play from your collection06:43
Lathiatlevander: not so much for ""COMPUTERS"" as 'services' running on those computers06:44
wasabi_voraistos: Access COntrol Lists. That's what WIndows calls them too.06:44
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wasabi_voraistos: You'll have to look up POSIX ACLs online someplace. I don't really want to explain them in IRC.06:44
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ddaemonwasabi_ is there anyway to manually override the options?06:44
wasabi_ddaemon: Probably. =)06:44
levanderLathiat: I assume there are permissions you can set through this avahi thing, yes?06:44
Lathiatlevander: permissions?06:44
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voraistoswasabi_ thank you, i just wanted a bit more eplanation to actually know what to google :P06:44
ddaemoni've got a situation where I know the card and monitor can both drive at higher than 640x480, but that is my only option06:44
levanderLathiat: like if i only want certain people accessing my Rythmbox library.06:44
Lathiatlevander: no, thats up to the application06:45
Lathiatlevander: you can set a password on RB shares i think06:45
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Lathiatbut access control is not built into avahi itself06:45
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elyonHello06:45
Lathiatthe application has to layer that on top06:45
wasabi_avahi, btw, is an implementation of "bonjour", which is what APple invented. ... also called Rendevous at some point.06:45
levanderLathiat: it's starting to make sense, I guess it's installed by default on Edgy to encourage application developers to support it?  It's a political thing including it.  To show support.06:45
wasabi_And sometimes "zeroconf"06:45
Lathiatlevander: its included because they want to support it, BUT06:45
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Rookie_create a group and let that group be the one who is allowed to access the map, put current users in that group if necesery06:45
Lathiatlevander: ubuntu had a "no open ports" policy06:46
Lathiatlevander: this is something that is changing a little bit it seems06:46
levanderLathiat: ahhhh, no open ports, this makes sense06:46
levanderLathiat: yeah06:46
Lathiati guess also as avahi matures a bit they feel more confident in it06:46
Lathiatit tries to be pretty secure06:46
Lathiatdrops privs, chroots, etc06:46
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elyonIs there any kind of Windows - To - Ubuntu migration guide out there?06:46
Lathiatwe've had 1 crasher, and 1 bug that makes it eat 100% CPU, no exploitable bugs as yet06:46
Lathiat.. so far :\06:46
Lathiati'm mildly afraid of the day someone finds one :/ hah06:47
Wolfgangyes    the link from windows to ubuntu is here:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows06:47
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artbird309elyon: google it06:47
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Lathiathopefully never *G*06:47
elyonThanks, Wolfgang06:47
WolfgangNo Problem :P06:47
orestyle9I have an fstab setup that is not working (mounting on reboot) but does work with mount -a.  Any ideas?06:47
levanderLathiat: thanks for explaining, it's making more sense.  I'll probably be using avahi as an end user before too long.06:47
Lathiatlevander: woo ;)06:48
levanderorestyle9: is it a network mount that isn't working?06:48
Lathiatlevander: if you need any help with it, feel free to stop past #avahi06:48
levanderLathiat: thanks06:48
orestyle9levander:  yes, both a raid array and a network share.  Both not working.06:49
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levanderorestyle9: maybe the network isn't loaded when the machine is trying to mount the volume during bootup?06:49
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plutoCan someone please tell me the ubuntu equivilant of this directory?  /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input06:49
orestyle9levander:  For the raid array, I thought that maybe the drivers where not loading in time, but for a network share.06:49
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levanderorestyle9: the network still has to come up before it can be mounted06:50
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orestyle9levander:  it works when I do a mount -a06:50
kdubi need help getting dual monitors to work with an ati card06:50
artbird309what would be better for a server install 6.06 or 6.1006:50
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levanderorestyle9: yeah, but by the time you do "mount -a" the network is already up06:50
levanderartbird309: if you need commercial support 6.0606:51
soloikwhen i update the system  the kernel also chages?06:51
levanderartbird309: if you want to upgrade to feisty, 6.1006:51
levandersoloik: sometimes06:51
plutoCan someone please tell me the ubuntu equivilant of this directory?  /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input06:51
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artbird309levander: what is better about feisty06:51
orestyle9levander:  Ya, its an existing network, been up for a long time.  This server is the system that goes up and down (but is not the master domain controller)06:52
abhinayhow to get write permissions for ext3 drive ?   i have given ,  /dev/hda6/media/hda6     ext3    users,rw        0       0      in fstab06:52
levanderartbird309: it's just the next release of feisty, some things it will have is integrated beryl, better xen support...06:52
levandernext release of *ubuntu* i meant06:52
orestyle9abhinay:  have you tried auto where the ext3 is?06:52
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artbird309levander: it is a server so I don't need beryl06:53
kdubanyone know how to get beryl running on dual monitors?06:53
orestyle9abhinay:  never mind...06:53
varsendaggrhow do i iopen a .rar06:53
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abhinayorestyle9, it is ext3 file type, why auto, it 'll not gonna work06:53
jisatsu_varsendaggr: install the rar and unrar packages06:53
levanderartbird309: do you know whether or not the option of professional support is important?  Like do you want to be able to call somebody a year from now and have them help you fix it?  Without having to upgrade your software the whole time?06:53
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levanderartbird309: 6.06 is LTS (long-term support) - Ubuntu will support it for 2 years - wait, maybe it's five, I don't remember06:54
juanare there any good guides to understanding xorg?06:54
Dasnipa`levander, 2 years for desktop 5 for server i believe06:54
artbird309levander: no it is for a school06:54
levanderartbird309: 6.10 is just another release with no commitment to LTS06:54
orestyle9abhinay:  I have a system with ext3 and we use defaults where you have users,rw06:54
kdubedgy is lts06:55
levanderartbird309: if it goes down, what's the damage?06:55
Dasnipa`kdub, edgy is not lts06:55
levanderartbird309: how much money do you lose?06:55
orestyle9abhinay:  I think that applies the permissions from the device itself06:55
abhinayorestyle9, because the default option didn't work for me , so i gave users, rw06:55
Dasnipa`kdub, edgy will be supported 6 months as usual and then feisty will come out and probably be supported for 6 months as well06:55
artbird309levander: I do not think any it is a school of about 120 seats06:55
levanderartbird309: is this server something you are interested in working with, or is it just something you need to have?06:55
willys_fueguinoI CANT SWITCH USERS!06:56
kdub6.06 is though?06:56
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artbird309willys_fueguino: I would be runing it06:56
levanderartbird309: do you want to spend time with ubuntu, or do you just want something tha tworks?06:56
Dasnipa`6.06 dapper drake. is LTS06:56
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soloikwhat is the best way for changes my kernel of 2.6.17-10-generic a  2.6.19.1 for amd6406:56
Dasnipa`i wouldnt expect another LTS until at least dapper support for desktop ends06:56
Dasnipa`so 2 years06:56
Dasnipa`well 1.5 years06:56
artbird309levander: I don't know06:57
levanderartbird309: like, when mysql comes out with version 5.1 of their database, do you want to be able to upgrade fairly soon, or do you care if you upgrade ever?06:57
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levanderartbird309: you have more evaluating to do, what is the deadline for getting this box up?06:57
artbird309levander: next year06:57
artbird309levander: next school year06:57
Dasnipa`oh lol06:57
Dasnipa`next year i was like haha 3 days?06:58
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levanderartbird309: how much time do you have to spend evaluating?06:58
willys_fueguinoIm so tired with this... I cant get gdmflexiserver to work...06:58
levanderartbird309: is this a task that you want to accomplish, or is this something you're interested in looking into?06:58
ShakaGoldSainthi, one stupid question, does synaptic have a fullscreen mode?06:58
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willys_fueguinosomeone please help me...06:58
willys_fueguinoShakaGoldSaint: no06:58
wasabi_ShakaGoldSaint: it has a maximize button06:58
artbird309levander: I want to06:58
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levanderwhen I say accomplish, i mean accomplish quickly06:58
ShakaGoldSaintehmmm, then what is this.....06:59
levanderartbird309: want to what?06:59
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artbird309levander: accomplish it06:59
levanderartbird309: quickly?06:59
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levanderartbird309: is this just something you are trying to get done?06:59
artbird309levander: no I have till june06:59
levanderartbird309: but, how much personal time do you want to invest?06:59
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artbird309levander: 3 hour a week07:00
weemyo07:00
levanderartbird309: are you a teacher at this school?07:00
ShakaGoldSainthttp://eleazar.teamma.net/Pantallazo.png willys_fueguino07:00
artbird309levander: no student07:00
levanderartbird309: are you interested in computers?07:00
artbird309levander: yes07:01
levanderartbird309: do you want to learn more about them?  or, just get this job done?07:01
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levanderartbird309: if they are having a student put the computer up, it's probably not mission critical07:01
willys_fueguinoShakaGoldSaint: nice07:01
artbird309levander:  I am doing tech stuff right now07:01
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ShakaGoldSaintwillys_fueguino,  07:01
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dan__how do I install usb wireless adapters?07:02
levanderartbird309: go to ubuntu.com, and first read about edubuntu and see if you need any of that stuff, then download either ubuntu or edubuntu 6.1007:02
artbird309levander: I am the 2 in tech there07:02
levanderartbird309: what is a "2 in tech"?07:02
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artbird309levander: number 2 in the tech side of the school07:02
dan__or just have them mail it to you07:02
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levanderartbird309: you are ranked number 2?07:03
Pirate-kingwhat is the best and easiest program to web cam with?07:03
levanderamongst the students?07:03
artbird309levander: yes07:03
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levanderartbird309: good for you07:03
artbird309levander: not techers07:03
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levanderartbird309: go for edgy, version 6.10 i think07:03
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artbird309levander: ok07:03
AdramelechPirate-king: aMsn only one i tried07:03
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artbird309levander: I will play with that07:03
levanderartbird309: all you have to do is download the CD, then you can see if the computer is compatible with it by running Ubuntu off the CD07:03
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levanderartbird309: after you decide if Ubuntu is going to work on that computer, then you can isntall Ubuntu onto the hard drive.07:04
ShakaGoldSaintso synaptic doesn't have fullscreen http://eleazar.teamma.net/Pantallazo.png  :(, then what is this? :S and how can i fix it?07:04
levanderartbird309: it's important to do it in that order07:04
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llindypirate-king, I have yet to find anything to cam with, and I use Ubuntu 6.0607:04
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levanderartbird309: if ubuntu doesn't work on that computer, it's probably too much to ask someone new to ubuntu to get it to work...07:04
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weem/j #bcm-dev07:04
weemniceee07:05
jw_606Hello07:05
Pirate-kingdam07:05
levanderartbird309: although, with determination, you could probably get it to work07:05
siv0xhow do i "run as root" - i'm trying to figure out how to set my graphics card up with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:05
jw_606Can I get some help using the make command please?07:05
llindypirate-king.. I have a dual boot, and have to boot into MS to cam, and use gAIM in Ubuntu07:05
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levanderartbird309: if it doesn't work, hopefully you have another computer to try it on07:05
artbird309levander: We have not got the servers yet it is going to be a Dell rack server so I think it will work07:05
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llindypirate-king, no compat drivers for cams..:(07:05
jw_606I forgot what I used last time I tryed to compile something, it was something like 'make prepare all' ? does that look right?07:05
AdramelechPirate-king: aMsn support webcams07:05
dan__are there any wireless adapters made for ubuntu?07:05
Pirate-kingpretty compicated to set up07:06
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Pirate-kingamsn?///07:06
llindyyes, they may support the cams ok, but there are no cpmpat drivers thatI can find, and I have a Cretaive cam, and a logitech07:06
tonyyarussodan__: Made for, no.  That work with, yes.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport07:06
AdramelechPirate-king: aMsn is on repos07:06
Pirate-kingI have a logitec for notebooks07:06
dan__ok ill look07:06
Pirate-kingin kubuntu?07:06
levanderartbird309: make sure it will work before you buy it07:07
llindy*creative labs, and logitech07:07
Adramelechllindy: my creative old cam works fine with xpia drivers07:07
artbird309levander: How would I go about doing that07:07
Pirate-kingrepos = repositorys? correct?07:07
dan__ty07:07
llindyhmmmm, I cant even get the disk to read, and USB plug and play wont work on my model07:07
AdramelechPirate-king: yes, look for it on synaptic07:07
tonyyarussoPirate-king: yes07:07
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Adramelechllindy: mine is parallel but cpia supports usb i think07:08
Pirate-kingI know Im in ubuntu I have kubuntu synaptic I think is in ubuntu...07:08
llindyhmmm, Ill have to check that out, thanks07:08
llindyyes, synaptic is in Ubuntu07:09
Adramelechllindy: modprobe cpia_usb as root07:09
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llindyoh, ok07:09
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Pirate-kingI know Im in ubuntu channeI I have kubuntu synaptic I think is in ubuntu...07:09
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artbird309Pirate-king It use the same system so it will work the same07:10
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AdramelechPirate-king: do you have universe enable?07:10
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Pirate-kingnot that I know off07:11
Pirate-kingpretty new at this linux stuff07:11
llindyadramelech:modprobe cpia_usb invalid operation07:11
Pirate-kinghow do you enable universe???????????07:12
artbird309Pirate-king: trie asking in the #kubuntu07:12
AdramelechPirate: setting->repositories07:12
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Pirate-kingyeah not really any one ther to answer07:12
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llindyadramelech: E: Couldn't find package modprobe07:13
llindyroot@lindy:/home/lindy#07:13
orestyle9anyone help with mounting network shares through fstab?07:13
artbird309Pirate-king: did you trie setting->repositories07:13
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Pirate-kingsystem settings then repositories07:14
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Adramelechllindy: those 3 lines are the whole output?07:14
llindyyes07:14
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artbird309Pirate-king: no the setting in kubuntu synaptic07:14
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WolfgangIs there a list for checking compatabilty for Ubuntu with wireless network cards and routers?07:14
WolfgangI use Linksys for both07:14
siv0xCan someone tell me how to get my latest nvidia drivers, for an nvidia geforce 6800 ? i used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is that all i need to do?07:14
llindyadramelech: root@lindy:/home/lindy# modprobe cpia_usb07:15
llindyroot@lindy:/home/lindy# mine07:15
llindybash: mine: command not found07:15
llindyroot@lindy:/home/lindy# sudo apt-get modprobe cpia_usb07:15
llindyE: Invalid operation modprobe07:15
llindyroot@lindy:/home/lindy# modprobe cpia_usb07:15
llindyroot@lindy:/home/lindy# sudo apt-get install modprobe cpia_usb07:15
llindyReading package lists... Done07:15
llindyBuilding dependency tree... Done07:15
artbird309Wolfgang: the router will work07:15
llindyE: Couldn't find package modprobe07:15
llindyroot@lindy:/home/lindy#07:15
iovanalexanyone has instaled ubuntu on a dell gx620 ?07:15
artbird309iovanalex: what is that07:15
wastrelwhy did you put all that junk in the channel mr llindy?07:15
Adramelechllindy: modporbe is part of the system is the way to load modules07:15
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llindyUm, I didnt know what to do07:16
llindyok07:16
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Adramelechllindy: what you are trying to do is to load cpia_usb module07:16
siv0xCan someone tell me how to get my latest nvidia drivers, for an nvidia geforce 6800 ? i used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is that all i need to do?07:16
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llindyoh, ok, thanks, I have been working and working on this, 6 mos new to Ubuntu07:16
Adramelechllindy: me too07:17
baratahallo, how to lame a wav FROM 00.00.00 second to 05.02.39 for instance?07:17
Adramelechllindy: as i see your output it should work now07:17
Wolfgangartbird309 thanks07:17
baratalame -b 192 ..... ?07:17
llindyok, will try now, thanks much07:17
freebsehi how do I change the space between icons on a kde desktop07:17
llindy:)07:17
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Adramelechllindy: have to do that everytime you reboot07:17
llindyyikes, ok07:17
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Adramelechllindy: or add it in etc/modules i think07:17
palomerhello07:17
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llindyok, will do07:17
palomerI'd like to input japanese from scim to skype07:17
palomernot working07:18
palomeranyone have any suggestions?07:18
cntbhttp://pangea001.upc.es/ubuntu-dvd-torrents/07:18
siv0xCan someone tell me how to get my latest nvidia drivers, for an nvidia geforce 6800 ? i used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is that all i need to do?07:18
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artbird309siv0x: go to nvidia.com07:18
weemanyone here Wardrive?07:18
Adramelechsiv0x: do you want the propietary drivers?07:19
jisatsu_siv0x: nvidia-glx should work fine07:19
Simplechatis there any way to troubleshoot a ubuntu cd that won't boot07:19
siv0xI'm planning on running games later on, i want my newest drivers.07:19
artbird309Simplechat:  md5sum07:19
Adramelechsiv0x: open source drivers supports only 2d acc, propietary ones support 2d and 3d07:19
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jisatsu_siv0x: install the nvidia-glx package and configure it with [insert command I can't remember] 07:20
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Simplechatart: tried that, it crashes around grub07:20
siv0xOkay, whats the command to install the nvidia-glx?07:20
Simplechatso it won't check07:20
Ascweem: It's illegal last I checked, but if you're looking for a way to find nearby wireless networks, you might try installing 'network-manager-gnome'07:20
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Simplechati've tried it on about 5 dvd's now07:20
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jisatsu_siv0x: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx07:20
Simplechatincluding half a dousin other distros (ubuntu, fedora core 6, pclinuxos...)07:20
Shocka311I downloaded some KDE programs and my X is Gnome and when I try to get help for the KDE programs it says " could not launch the KDE Help center: Could not find service 'khelpcenter'." where can I downloat the nececary files for the help menus in all my KDE programs?07:21
siv0xk07:21
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jisatsu_then you'll need to edit a file to enable it07:21
artbird309Shocka311: you need to install KDE Help07:21
Simplechat?07:21
siv0xOkay.. you dont remember how?07:21
Simplechatany ideas?07:21
jisatsu_siv0x: 2 secs and I'll check my config07:21
siv0xThanks07:21
freebsesiv0x: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable , maybe this works, if it does not (some Ubuntu versions are broken here) you need to setup x manuell07:22
Shocka311artbird309: where do I find KDE help to download it?07:22
cntbartbird309:  how to install kde help ?07:22
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artbird309Shocka311: sudo apt-get install kdehelp?07:22
voraistoshey has anyone tried listen media player ?07:22
jisatsu_siv0x: /etc/X11/xorg.conf find a line something like this: Driver          "nv" change nv to nvidia and save it07:22
siv0xjisatsu: it said my x config has been changed, system needs to reboot to get full advantages out of this, does that mean it works?07:23
Shocka311artbird309: let me try that.07:23
cntbsudo apt-get install kdehelp ?? artbird309?07:23
artbird309cntb ?07:23
cntbty07:23
jisatsu_hm. weird, didn't work for me before. reboot, but it didn't necessarily activate the driver, might need to do it manually07:23
tim167how can I automate saving a scanned document to 2 filetypes ? (now I have to do it in Gimp but it's soo tedious) thanks07:23
Shocka311artbird309: it said "E: Couldn't find package kdehelp07:24
siv0xokay, so you want me to reboot and come back?07:24
freebsesiv0x: normally rebooting does not have an effect, restarting x will do it07:25
jw_606Can someone help me with an error please? Here is the error, its probably something simple http://paste.getlinuxhelp.org/6490307:25
artbird309Shocka311: let me look07:26
AdramelechShoka311: i think you need kde desktop to get that07:26
siv0xfreebse: how do i restart x? - been about a year that i've used linux..07:26
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Adramelechsiv0x: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace07:26
siv0xK07:26
tim167I need to automate / script the following: scan a document at 300 dpi, save it to a .pgm file, then save it as .jpg file, close file, wait for following scan command... how do I do that ?07:26
AdramelechSiv0x:but wait a min07:26
freebsesiv0x: CTRL ALT Backspace when you are in X07:26
Adramelechsiv0x: You know hot to recover if that dont work?07:27
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jadacyrusI've been running Dual Head on nvidia for some time now and all of a sudden my desktop backgrounds are behaving like im not running twinview, (ie Center puts the background in the center between the two monitors, not centered on each monitor like it used to) , however maximizing windows and everything else still behaves like im using twinview07:29
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baratahallo, how to lame a wav FROM 00.00.00 second to 05.02.39 for instance?07:30
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tim167how can I script this: aquire a document from scanner, generate a sequential filename, save to both a *.pgm file and a .jpg file, await  following scan command... any ideas at all ? thanks07:30
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bjv!xorg07:30
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:30
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Shocka311in synaptic package manager what does it indicate if a check box is green but not checked?07:31
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bjvubuntu decided that we should not be able to resize our desktops?07:31
bjvctr-alt- +/- doesnt seem to work for me anymore07:31
bjv*in edgy07:31
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wastrelbjv:  num lock?  i dunno i'm on a laptop & have no numpad :] 07:32
barata<bjv> ubuntu decided that we should not be able to resize our desktops? ---> imposible, just back up, partition & put it back07:32
AdramelechShoka311: I think your refering that is going to be installed07:32
bjvno, i mean change the resolution of the running x server07:32
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wastrelbjv also check system > preferences > screen resolution07:32
Shocka311adramelech: but they're not checked.07:33
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barata<bjv> no, i mean change the resolution of the running x server --> run xconfig07:33
barata<bjv> no, i mean change the resolution of the running x server --> run xconfig Xorg07:33
jisatsu_by default, is there a keystroke to open the "Applications" menu?07:33
Shocka311adramelech: most of the check boxes are white and uncheked but some are green.07:33
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AdramelechShocka311: oh, means its installed already07:34
wastrelShocka311:  the "check" thing may look different depending on your gtk/gnome theme07:34
wastrelwhat do i know i don't use synaptic07:34
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Shocka311adramelech: iah they are packages I already have some version installed07:34
bjvyeah, i guess i can use stuff like gnome-control-center to change the res.07:34
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Shocka311I got it, thanks07:34
bjvi just liked the hotkeys in xorg.07:34
bjvthey seem disabled at compile time?07:35
Adramelechbjv: Maybe is cause of xorg 7.107:35
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jadacyrusI've been running Dual Head on nvidia for some time now and all of a sudden my desktop backgrounds are behaving like im not running twinview, (ie Center puts the background in the center between the two monitors, not centered on each monitor like it used to) , however maximizing windows and everything else still behaves like im using twinview07:35
Adramelechbjv: lots of changes to this version07:35
bjvah well.07:35
bjvback to WoW, ill fix xorg later. ~_~07:35
Adramelechjw_606: still need hwlp with ur pastbin?07:36
Shocka311artbird309: I found a khelp, let me see if this is the one with all the help files07:36
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mdioushi everyone07:37
bruenig!hi | mdious07:37
ubotumdious: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!07:37
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AscI'm experiencing a problem wherein window managers, upon viewing my home directory, try to eat all my RAM.  Is there anything to be done about this?07:39
Ascand by 'window managers', I mean 'file managers'07:39
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bruenigAsc, how much do you have in your home directory, I could see if you had thousands of files in it, when it tried to display them all really exploding07:39
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baratawhat do you use Asc? Konqueror?07:39
momalHow can I kill a process from command "kill -9 PID" I run that and it is still running help!!.. I need a way to kill it without rebooting.07:39
Shocka311artbird309: that was it, thanks for checkin.07:40
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artbird309Shocka311: cool07:40
baratakill -15 momal07:40
Ascbruenig, nothing exceptional.  Fifty or so if you count hidden.07:40
barataor kill -KILL07:40
mdiousAsc:  don't use kde but apparently disabling ipv6 speeds up konqueror or something....dunno if that helps...might only be for browsing network shares and stuff07:40
Ascbarata, it's happened under nautilus, thunar, and probably pcmanfm07:40
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mister_robotobarata, that won't work  KILL *is* -907:41
baratanautilus is unstable, I never use it ....07:41
mister_robotobarata: probably he doesn't own the process07:41
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Ascnautilus was kind of a pain because it draws the gnome desktop07:41
mister_robotomomal: try sudo07:41
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barataif that happens to me mister_roboto, I'll just use ksysguard to kill it07:41
momalbarata: It didn't die :S... | mister_roboto: Im running under root account already program was run under root07:41
freebsenautilus is allright when you start it --browser --no-desktop07:41
barataif it still doesnt work, I'll go to init 107:42
bruenigAsc, it doesn't make sense, it doesn't do it anywhere else?07:42
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mrmoke   /quit07:42
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bruenigmrmoke, try it without the 7 spaces07:42
Ascbruenig: Nope, nowhere.07:43
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cyphasedoes anyone know of any way to access Evolution via Python?07:43
bruenigAsc, any weird files maybe a weird extension or something that it is trying to assign to an icon or something, grabbing a straws07:43
bruenigat*07:43
Ascbruenig, I don't think so.  It doesn't happen every time either.07:44
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Asc...it's weird.  Nautilus used to do it when viewing the directory, but now does it every time gnome starts.  Others do it intermittently when viewing the directory.07:45
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artbird309How do I find my hostname for a shell07:48
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rcbaxterHas anyone gotten the MonoDevelop Version Control Addin to work?07:48
AdramelechAsc: Nautilus 100% cpu usage is a bug07:49
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AdramelechAsc: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/5468407:49
weemanyone here Wardrive?07:49
Ascadramelch: It's more of 100% memory usage, though I've not been watching the CPU when it happens07:50
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h3xisweem, back in the day07:50
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weemdamn07:50
weemlol07:50
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gephaltwhat man page do i need to look at in order to understand /etc/network/interfaces?07:52
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Asc'man ingerfaces'07:52
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gephaltAsc: ok.07:53
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timfrostartbird309: HN=`hostname` will set variable HN to the hostname.  Is that what you want?07:53
artbird309timfrost: yes07:53
gaten!wireless07:54
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:54
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gwarkwhat does cpu softlock mean, and how could it have hapen al of s sudden??07:54
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Siv0xOkay.. i'm back and after i used ctrl+alt+backspace it wouldnt let me go back to my desktop. so i restarted and it still wouldnt.. there for i tried safe mode and it still wouldnt, gave me an error each time. so i reformatted.07:56
wastrelmy old crappy laptop doesn't power down when i shut down - how do i fix this ?07:56
AdramelechSiv0x: fast reformat in history07:56
AdramelechSv0x: i asked you if you know how to recover your system but left too soon07:57
gwarkmy ubuntu stopped booting due to "cpu softlock" any one know what the cause of that could be please?07:57
Siv0xAdramelech: lol its all good man.07:57
Siv0xAdramelech: was it startx?07:57
AdramelechSiv0x: to start X server07:57
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AdramelechSiv0x: look is a good practice to backup your config files before doing something07:58
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AdramelechSiv0x: And to avoid reinstalling, you can surf the web from command line using lynx07:58
Siv0xAll i am trying to do now is, get my nvidia drivers working, and detect my sound card.07:59
Shocka311is there anything I can do to increase my pc's speed besides adding more ram and more memory?07:59
AdramelechSiv0x: install invidia-glx07:59
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Siv0xk.07:59
AdramelechSiv0x i think you did that already last time right?07:59
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abhinayIam getting this message when iam trying to mount ntfs drive : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39290/07:59
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abhinayIt says go to windows and shutdown properly, but i don't have windows here08:00
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gephaltis it necessary to have a software router configured (i cannot use a hardware router) in order to minimize network congestion and that sort of thing? this is a standalone network- 35 PCs that needs to be able to talk to each other- no internet connection08:00
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abhinayAnybody help ?08:01
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Siv0xAdramelech: yes, but one sec. still updating.08:01
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Adramelechabhinay: Bad think, i thing is that hardrive is marked as it need a check08:01
Adramelechabhinay: currently u can only unmark it from windows08:01
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Adramelechabhinay: more info on ntfs-3g site08:01
abhinayAdramelech, hmm...08:01
klypsoLameBMX: hey08:02
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Adramelechabhinay: Run 'ntfsfix' on Linux which will reset the NTFS journal.08:02
Adramelechabhinay: you did that?08:02
toulousehey guys, i was going to try another flavor of linux, so i burnt the cd... but when i started the comp. with the cd in there, it didnt boot into the linux i wanted to try... do you guys know what i can do to fix this08:02
klypsoLameBMX: Thanks for your help, it all worked out.08:02
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abhinayAdramelech, that didn't work08:02
klypsohey I have a terminal question08:03
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NeoLithiumtoulouse: Check if your system boots from the CD drive first (It's a selection in BIOS)08:03
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Adramelechabhinay: to be honest that happened to me and i fixed ot going into windows and closing it properly :P08:03
Siv0xAdramelech, okay you want me to sodu apt-get install invidia-glx ?08:03
Shocka311anybody have any sugestions, I just added a slave hard drive and some new ram, is there anything I can do besides adding more ram that will help my system run faster?08:03
AdramelechSiv0x: yes08:03
toulouseoo boy, ive never messed with bios bfore, what do i look for?08:03
klypsoif I had a terminal program that I wanted to use out of the folder, how would I add it to a PATH (the thing used on windows) for linux?08:03
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AdramelechShocka311 tweaking your system but i wont recommend that if your are new to ubuntu08:04
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NeoLithiumtoulouse: Just look around the settings, there should be something in there like BOOT: with several options, just select CD drive first, I don't remember exactly what it said, but it's pretty easy to spot.08:04
Siv0xAdramelech: it said E: Couldn't find package invidia-glx - maybe i should restart my computer.. these updates just got done and the invidia-glx might have been in those updates?08:04
toulouseok, it's not a grub problem is it?08:04
Xbehaveshocka311 what do you do on your system?08:04
NeoLithiumtoulouse: I think it was a list of boot order, like CD -> Hard Drive -> Floppy Drive, or whatnot.08:05
wyatt_earpdoes anyone know how i can install the 32bit version of libpam-* on a 64bit ubuntu system?08:05
Adramelechklypso: I thinjk you use default shell, so PATH=$PATH,program_path     should do the trick08:05
toulouseok, ima dive in there08:05
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toulousecya08:05
klypsohow do I make a terminal program accesible out of the installation folder?08:05
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Shocka311adramelech: i am very new to ubuntu. I only ask because I read on the ubuntu website that adding ram alone won't help, you need to increase your cache size.08:05
AdramelechSiv0x: is nvidia no invidia =)08:05
Siv0xAdremelech: ahhh. lol08:05
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Siv0xAdramelech: brb.08:06
klypsoanyone?08:06
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Adramelechklypso: give me 2 secs08:06
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klypsoOk08:06
Shocka311xbehave: only 320 m of r08:06
gephaltHow do i configure the network interface to use an Internet connection via a cross-over cable connection to a Windows Box? dhcp?08:06
Adramelechklypso08:07
Adramelechopen a terminal08:07
klypsoAdramelech: got one open08:07
Adramelechklypso: write:  PATH=$PATH,myprogrampath08:07
Xbehaveis your system running veryslow08:07
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Shocka311I just ordered more, my pc will only handle 76808:07
wyatt_earpanyone on how i can install 32bit pam on an amd64?08:08
Shocka311xbehave:  I just ordered more, my pc will only handle 76808:08
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Adramelechklypso: it only works on the terminal you type it, to make it a default you need to add that line yo .bashrc on your home directory08:08
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NeoLithiumShocka311: You can also use other window managers, something like fluxbox.  Other than that, you'd have to kill any services you don't use, but you'd need to have an idea of what they are doing, so you don't kill something bad, that would stop linux.08:09
Siv0xAdramelech: okay back. now to what we was doing.08:09
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klypsoAdramelech: root@daedalus:/installed/framework-2.7# PATH=$PATH,/installed/framework-2.708:09
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Xbehaveswap space is like extra ram that ubuntu uses when your real ram gets full, i think the system should run fine with 768 unless your putting it under heavy loads, a good way to see is to have a monitoring app in your taskbar08:09
klypsoAdramelech: still can't get to the program08:09
Adramelechklypso framework? inst thata windows thing?08:10
wastrelgephalt:  did you get your crossover connection set up?08:10
AdramelechSiv0x: you got it installed and restarted the pc?08:10
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Xbehavexfce (used in xubuntu) is the lowest resource window manager in the ubuntu family and so should give you the best performance (as i understand it)08:10
Siv0xAdramelech: yes.08:10
Shocka311xbehave: I have a monitering app right now. do I need to increase my cache size when I add more ram?08:10
AdramelechSiv0x: now tipe.... hummmm one sec =)08:11
Siv0xAdramelech: k np08:11
klypsoAdramelech: just a sec08:11
timfrostAdramelech: klypso needs 'PATH=$PATH:/path/to/program;export PATH' where /path/to/program is the directory where the program is installed (eg /usr/local/bin or ~/bin).  Note the COLON separator08:12
Shocka311xbehave: right now I have two sticks of 128 and one stick of 64 but it says I only have 250 MiB08:12
Adramelechoops08:12
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Adramelechtimfrost: oops yes =)08:12
klypsotimfrost and Adramelech: Thanks08:12
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Shocka311xbehave: on my system moniter.08:12
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Xbehaveis the ram ddr? im running 1gb of ddr and actual ram usage rarley gets very high, the swap (which after reading a few different guides i set to 1gb) turns out to never get used, but if u have a slower proccesor/onboard graphics you may need more08:12
Xbehavewhat does your bios say?08:13
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klypsogot it working08:13
Adramelechklypso: sorry bout the : thing08:14
Shocka311xbehave: what comand do I use to view my bios?08:14
Xbehaveive found that order is imprtant with ram of different amounts e.g 64,128,128 may only run 256 but 128,128,64 will pick up 32008:14
AdramelechSiv0x: sudo nvidia-xconfig08:14
Xbehaveno command the only true gauge is when u boot your pc the little counter that counts your ram08:14
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NeoLithiumShocka311: You have to hit escape when your computer starts up08:15
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Xbehaveor f1 or del08:15
Siv0xAdramelech: Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf". Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup' New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'08:15
NeoLithiumOr the old classic [Esc]  to enter BIOS <-I miss that old comp of mine ;)08:15
AscAnybody have a link to a page that explains how to use all the arcane console syntax?  e.g. &&, {}, %, etc.08:15
AdramelechSiv0x: If it doesnt work, you can use that backup08:16
Shocka311I know I have 128 128 64 right now and when I use the free -m command and on my system moniter it is only picking up 25008:16
Siv0xAdramelech: that backup?08:16
AdramelechSiv0x: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup08:16
Xbehaveshocka311 do you have onboard graphics?08:16
lasindiHi everyone, I'm looking at buying a new monitor, and I've been considering a widescreen monitor. Does Ubuntu work well with widescreens (are there any problems with aspect ratios)? Any recommendations, even not specifically about Ubuntu compliance?08:16
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Siv0xAdramelech: how do i do this?08:17
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Shocka311xbehave: what are onboard graphics?08:17
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AdramelechSiv0x: join #siv0x =)08:17
Xbehavea graphics card build into your motherboard08:17
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miyakoanyone know of a utility to do a diff on two binary files?08:17
Shocka311xbehave I don't believe so. I know I have a vid card.08:17
Xbehavewhen you boot up your computer what do you get before grub?08:18
Adramelechmiyako: diff dont work with binaries?08:18
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miyakoAdramelech - nope, just outputs "these binary files are different"08:19
gaten!pcmcia08:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:19
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Xbehave!xorg08:19
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:19
Shocka311xbehave: I get a message that says 32.0 megabytes and then it gives me a Dell screen and then grub08:19
Adramelechmiyako: you need the bytes where these files differ?08:20
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zsh!dvdauthor08:20
ubotudvdauthor: create DVD-Video file system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.11-4 (edgy), package size 137 kB, installed size 356 kB08:20
miyakoAdramelech - yeah, I would like to be able to view what bytes differ between the two files08:20
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Shocka311xbehave: when do I see the ram counter on boot, is it after grub?08:21
zsh!devede > me08:21
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FlannelShocka311: some modern computers hide that stuff.  Your computer might hide the POST Screen, and you might need to push something to show it (f1 or del, etc)08:21
gephaltwastrel: yeah, not connected yet-..have to go now.08:22
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wastrelokey dokey08:22
toulousehey guys, thanks for the bios tip on booting from cd, it went well, i think gentoo linux sucks tho, it's like a stripped down version of ubuntu, i just tried it on live cd08:22
wastrelgentoo != stripped down ubuntu08:22
Xbehavequick boot and boot logo, or options very similar to those08:22
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Shocka311flannel: it gives me a few sec. to hit del and enter setup, will it tell me my ram there?08:22
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toulouseShocka311: yes it will08:22
toulousefor me it does08:22
toulouseand tells you the frequency that your ram is operating at08:23
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Shocka311Right now I have 431.4 MiB set to swap, is that more than I need or should I leave it at that?08:23
mwalker_mewcons1i need help installing a tar.gz file. When I download the file from the net using Firefox, where should I save the tar.gz file?08:23
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zshhi! i keep getting an error that the dvd stucture cannot be created when using devede to convert avi files to dvd. anyone know what the problem is???08:23
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miyakoShocka311 - a good rule of thumb is to set the swap to twice the amount of ram you have08:24
Xbehaveit depends on the model tbh, it does on some(probably most) but not all(especially older) but if it doesnt u have to change settings to get it to sho, if it does then your ok.08:24
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wastrelunless you have a lot of ram,08:24
wastrelunless you want to use hibernate/suspend08:24
toulousei have a gig, do i need to customize the swap?08:24
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wastreli would suggest for a gig of ram you do not in fact need 2 gigs of swap08:24
toulouse*or ram08:24
toulouselol ok08:24
toulousewanted to make sure08:24
qball2Sup guys, would somone want to help me in getting my ati x1950 pro to work with ubuntu 6.10? I'm using the ati linux wiki and the 8.32.5 drivers and when i use them i cant get past the boot screen, it hangs at the very end of the ubuntu loading screen. Then i have to use my backup xorg to get it working again08:24
FlannelShocka311: I'd set a limit of about 1gb swap, unless you're doing real heavy graphics stuff, but in that case you'd probably know that already08:25
Shocka311thats a little less than half of the ram my pc is recognizing.08:25
miyakoyeah, I have 2 gigs of ram and only 1 gig swap08:25
wastrelif you have disk space to spare, feel free.08:25
Xbehavea gig of ddr rarely uses any ram unless you use alot of resourse, ive set 1gig swap and never used it08:25
wastrelif you want to suspend/hibernate it's a different story or so i'm given to understand.08:25
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miyakoI'm a ram hog08:25
mwalker_mewcons1i have thunderbird-1.5.0.9.tar.gz on my desktop how where do I extract the package and how do I install it?08:25
qball2any help would be much appreciated08:25
Shocka311flannel: how do I switch the swap ?08:25
miyakoI think if I had 16GB of ram, I'd still need a bit of swap space lol08:25
FlannelShocka311: 'switch'?  you'll need to do some repartitioning08:26
wastrelqball2:  have you looked at the ubuntu ati howto?08:26
gatenmwalker_mewcons1:  you can isntall TB from repos easier, but if you want to install from source i can tell u how08:26
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qball2yes, its the same directions at the ati linux wiki08:26
miyakoFlannel - not neccessarily, you can use a swap file08:26
toulousemiyako: you just need like damn small linux if you like playing with using ram. lol you can use damn small purely in the ram08:26
miyakojust use mkswap08:26
qball2i use the directions for ubuntu 6.10 word for word, i've tried it several times08:26
Shocka311flannel: well, I don't know enough to do that so I will just leave the swap to what it is set at now.08:26
mwalker_mewcons1I would like to learn how from the source, because there are some other source files I would like to install.08:26
qball2it just hangs at booting at the very end08:26
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Flannel!compile | mwalker_mewcons108:27
ubotumwalker_mewcons1: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)08:27
toulouseqball2: does it boot on the live cd?08:27
kidbuntu!xine08:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:27
kidbuntu!video08:27
ubotuFor multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications08:27
wastrelthe one on help.ubunut.com is the same as the one on the ati linux wiki?08:27
mwalker_mewcons1As a windows user is a tar.gz package like windows .zip package?08:27
qball2the drivers arnt on the live cd are they?08:27
toulouseya i thnk so08:27
gatenmwalker_mewcons1:  more of less, yes08:27
Xbehaveare there anyguides to understanding xorg for 6.10 because i get an error when i run programs in console but i think everything runs fine and ive done the reconfigure08:27
kidbuntumwalker_mewcons1: yes08:27
toulouseqball2: no i meant08:27
toulousesomeone else q'08:27
toulousei meant to answer mwalker's question08:28
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qball2all i do is i use the recovery mode and change the xorg back to my backup xorg.conf from before i installed the drivers and it boots up again08:28
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Shocka311toulouse: what does the frequency at which my ram is operating at mean?08:28
qball2just its really laggy for files because the drivers arnt the ati ones08:28
gatenXbehave:  what error08:28
christian1222how do i specify the directory that GLSlideshow uses in xscreensaver?08:28
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Flannelmwalker_mewcons1: tar groups files into one file, then gz(ip) will compress it (but gzip only compresses single files into an archive), so you use them both in conjunction08:28
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zshis there a nice simple gui app for making dvd menus and conveting video files to dvd?08:29
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gatendoes anyone use linux on a laptop w/ a wireless pcmcia card? i want to buy one and was wondering what works easy08:29
toulouseif it's higher, it should be faster, the difference in ram is not somehting i know much about, but i believe* that the higher the frequency, the faster the ram08:29
miyakozsh - I've seen one, can't remember off the top of my head what it's called htough08:29
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miyako*though08:29
Xbehaveits a long 1  4 lines X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 170 | Major opcode:  148 |   Minor opcode:  3 |   Resource id:  0x008:29
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NeoLithiumzsh: devede08:30
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Shocka311toulouse: I tried to install some new ram and on some of the sticks it asked if I wanted to switch to 100Mhz and I didn't know what that meant so I just took the ram out and put the old ram back in08:30
qball2anyone know anything?08:30
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qball2to my problem?08:30
mwalker_mewcons1does it matter where I extract the tar.gz file?08:30
toulouseShocka311: errk im pretty much a noob, i dont know how to help ya there08:30
christian1222does anyone know where i can find the directory that GLSlideshow finds its files to display?08:30
toulousebut i like your name08:30
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toulouseshocka!08:31
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Shocka311toulouse: thanks08:31
zshNeoLithium: i tied devede but i keep getting an error and google isnt vey helpful08:31
toulouseShocka311: if the shocker dont rocker, then sock er'08:31
gatenmwalker_mewcons1:  no, you'll be deleting the files after you compile and install08:31
imbecilewhat do you guys think of panda desktop secure?08:31
Shocka311toulouse: lol08:31
qball2would somone want to help me in getting my ati x1950 pro to work with ubuntu 6.10? I'm using the ati linux wiki and the 8.32.5 drivers and when i use them i cant get past the boot screen, it hangs at the very end of the ubuntu loading screen. Then i have to use my backup xorg to get it working again08:31
mwalker_mewcons1okay so I can extract on my desktop08:31
tonyyarussoponingru: Good to have you back, if not you and your server.08:32
gatenmwalker_mewcons1:  yes08:32
Shocka311Does anyone know jow to tell what frequency I am operating at now?08:32
NeoLithiumzsh: Which error were you getting? Maybe someone here can help?08:32
toulouseok guys***** quiz time! what new linux distro should i try??? -you can't say gentoo, i just tried it, i dont like it08:32
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Flanneltoulouse: Ask in #ubuntu-offtopic08:32
toulouseit's just like ubuntu08:32
toulouseo08:32
toulouseok08:32
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gatentoulouse:  gentoo is a source distribution, unlike ubuntu08:32
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qball2lol yes i have, same one as the one for ati wiki08:33
zshNeoLithium: that it cant create the dvd structure. its converting the avi files to mpeg ok but fails immediately afte that08:33
toulousegaten: i used the live cd, and it felt much like ubuntu08:35
mwalker_mewcons1how do I run a file using the Terminal?08:35
toulousei guess it's debian based08:35
poningrutony: having trouble with feisty right now :(08:35
Adramelechmwalker: typing its name in console08:35
tonyyarussoponingru: ah08:36
toulousefeisty is out ? beta?08:36
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mwalker_mewcons1I get a command not found error08:36
poningrutoulouse: not even beta08:36
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Adramelechmwalker: are you in the programs folder?08:36
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imbecileanyone recommend a good anti virus/firewall?08:36
mwalker_mewcons1yes08:36
mwalker_mewcons1I see the name of the program in the folder08:37
gatenimbecile:  firestarter is probably what you want08:37
Adramelechwalker: name of the program?08:37
mwalker_mewcons1Thunderbird08:37
Siv0xHello, can someone help me with getting sound - I have a sound blaster audigy 2 zs sound card.08:37
imbecilegaten, thanks08:37
Adramelechwalker: ./thunderbird i guess08:37
gatenmwalker_mewcons1:  did you compile it yet?08:37
mwalker_mewcons1when I type thunderbird it says bash: thunderbird: command not found08:37
Adramelechgaten: isnt thunderbird on repos?08:37
userundefineit's mozilla-thunderbird08:37
gatenimbecile:  you;re welcome08:38
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gatenAdramelech:  yes, but he wants to learn how to compile stuff08:38
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mwalker_mewcons1./thunderbird worked08:38
Adramelechwalker: =)08:38
christian1222does anyone know how i can find which directory GLSlideshow uses?08:39
Adramelechwalker: the dot means the current directory, keep that in mind for future problems08:39
mwalker_mewcons1okay08:39
mwalker_mewcons1thanks08:39
Adramelechnp08:39
mwalker_mewcons1I'm new to this Linux OS08:39
baratamwalker_mewcons1> I'm new to this Linux OS ---> welcome!! Halelujah ... Praise the TUX08:40
qball2yo can somone plz help, lol08:40
qball2would somone want to help me in getting my ati x1950 pro to work with ubuntu 6.10? I'm using the ati linux wiki and the 8.32.5 drivers and when i use them i cant get past the boot screen, it hangs at the very end of the ubuntu loading screen. Then i have to use my backup xorg to get it working again08:40
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toulousewelcome to it, you got quite a support team here in the irc08:40
Rookie_!ati08:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:40
baratahave you prayed? Did you kind of crying on your conversion?08:40
barata:) :)08:40
mwalker_mewcons1I like the idea of Linux being free, but the learning curve is a not a direct transfer from Windows08:40
Adramelechmwalker: after 2 weeks all becomes clear and logical :P08:41
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jisatsu_it's not so hard once you have everything installed and running08:41
barata<mwalker_mewcons1> I like the idea of Linux being free --> first lesson ... never say 'free' incompletely ... always say 'free as in fuck' ... but you still have to pay for the date and dinner!!08:41
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Rookie_try linux by console, makes it alot easier08:41
Flannel!language | barata08:42
ubotubarata: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:42
barataso .... using linux just like fucking our girl friends ..... are not actually "free" although of course it is "free"08:42
AdramelechXD08:42
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mwalker_mewcons1lol08:42
barataremember that lesson!08:42
Adramelechnext time use free as in freedom08:42
mwalker_mewcons1Learning the terminal is my biggest hurdle08:43
Adramelechor something to avoidf words08:43
baratafreedom you just get it as you are born!!08:43
mwalker_mewcons1also learning the file structure of Linux08:43
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baratano work is required by you!08:43
barata<mwalker_mewcons1> also learning the file structure of Linux --> then dont use Ubuntu!! Use slackware in your first 6-months08:43
globewell....what a lively bunch....08:44
barataSlackware is pure Linux and is good for newbies who really wanna learn08:44
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mwalker_mewcons1Heh it took me a while to get Ubuntu up and running08:44
baratabut if you are careless about system and care more about being productive ... Ubuntu is the best08:44
Rookie_cant comapiar those 2 distros .... but this is OT08:44
Adramelechmwalker: dirctory structure is on ubuntu help and man pages08:44
barataalthough it's bloated like a pregnant elephant08:44
barataand so slow08:44
Flannelmwalker_mewcons1: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html  and http://www.secguru.com/files/cheatsheet/linux-file-structure.jpg08:45
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Xbehaveanybody got any ideas for my problem/good xorg guides?08:45
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baratawhat's your problem Xbehave?08:45
mwalker_mewcons1thanks Flannel08:45
Rookie_dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:45
Xbehavenah ive done that no fix08:46
Siv0xCan someone help me with ``amixer - i'm trying install my audigy 2 zs sound card.08:46
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Xbehavewhen i run programs from console, e.g firefox leafpad etc i get  4 lines X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 170 | Major opcode:  148 |   Minor opcode:  3 |   Resource id:  0x0 then the program runs and i dont see any problem but i want to fix my system before i play with stuff08:47
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AdramelechSiv0x: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259808:48
starzive a really wierd problem:08:49
starzim running breezy and xchat08:49
starzand i cant seem to dcc chat anything, and i'm dmz/d in the router08:49
starzand i have no problems in windows08:49
starzany clue what it could be?08:49
Pie-rateXbehave: see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-212025.html08:49
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gatenstarz:  any iptables rules defined?08:49
starzive a crap airlink router which i think is auto stealth, and i think in windows it has to have ports opened with either traffic or upnp or something crazy08:49
Pie-rateclosest thing i could find to your problem08:49
maritheri have problems in installing wine...i need help!!!!08:49
starzgaten, dont think so lemme double check08:50
Siv0xAdramelech: i'll take a look =) thanks08:50
Xbehavethx pie ill have a look08:50
Pie-ratemarither: this is offtopic to this channel, please see #winehq or /msg me about it08:50
starzgaten, nope all default policy accept 0 rules08:50
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maritherhow? can you help me pie-rate?08:51
Pie-ratequite likely.08:51
starzits having an effect on torrents, and on dcc chatting, and on dcc sending ;_;08:51
marithersorry pie-rate coz this is my 1st time to use this08:52
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gatenstarz:  that sounds like a router problem08:52
starzgaten, yes i understand08:53
starzthing is it works great in winblowz08:53
starzso its _really_ an os problem somewhere........08:53
gaten!iconutils08:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about iconutils - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:53
starzgaten, any clue how windows opens ports by default?08:54
starzis there some packet it sends out prior to regular traffic08:54
rapidstarz: its in the firewall settings08:54
starzor something every so often so to speak?08:54
starzrapid, im dmz'd08:54
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cens0redHi. Can someone help me? I can't get my new dvd drive to work. It's a liteON shm-165P6S . When I try to play DVDs, I get this error "read: Error cracking CSS key"08:54
cens0redSometimes I get video output, but it's horribly garbled. And there's no audio.08:55
rapidstarz: figure out what port is being used for DCC and open that port.08:55
rapidis all i can think of08:55
Pie-ratecens0red: that's a problem with libdvdread, not your dvd drive08:55
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starzrapid, i tried range porting, i tried application porting, and ive tried ip porting.08:55
gatenstarz:  i agree. you could try dccing as root, see if that helps08:55
Pie-ratecens0red: hold on while i do some reading :)08:55
vulcaniuswow, I just crapped all over myself08:55
starzo:08:55
cens0redPie-rate cheers.08:55
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Siv0xvulcanius: lol..08:56
starzhm lemme start antoher instance of xchat.... that would be interesting... and that would make it permissions somewhere at fault right?08:56
moktodi'm attempting to modprove ndiswrapper, but receiving an error: FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.08:56
vulcaniusand now it looks like Firefox is taking a dump on my chest... thank you firefox08:56
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moktodany clue how I can track this down08:56
rapidmoktod you need ndiswrapper.08:56
vulcaniusmoktod: did you compile ndiswrapper as a module?08:57
moktodi used apt-get to install it08:57
Siv0xvulcanius: werent you the one that tried to help me with my sound last time?08:57
Pie-ratecens0red: have you installed libdvdread3?08:57
Pie-ratecens0red: if so, run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh08:57
vulcaniusSiv0x: I started to, but it looked like crimsun was already helping you out08:57
cens0redPie-rate yeah  I did all the stuff on the wiki. Still the same problem.08:57
Pie-ratecens0red: otherwise, run apt-get install libdvdread3, then run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh08:57
moktodi have ndiswrapper (i loaded the correct driver for my card)08:57
moktodndiswrapper -l shows it08:58
AdramelechSiv0x: got sound already?08:58
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moktodbut...the module wont load08:58
Siv0xvulcanius: yes, i know. but i'm having trouble with it again.08:58
vulcaniusSiv0x: what is happening?08:58
Pie-ratecens0red: have you tried a different dvd? what player are you using?08:58
Siv0xAdramelech: nope - couldnt make anything out to help me on that forum.08:58
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Siv0xvulcanius: no sound. lol08:58
moktodcan anyone share with me the uncommented portion of their /etc/modprobe/ndiswrapper?08:58
starzok no that doesnt work.08:58
Pie-ratecens0red: are you sure you ran /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh?08:58
cens0redPie-rate it's the liteON shm-165P6S .08:58
cens0redPie-rate I don't have another dvd. :/08:59
starzgaten, // rapid could it be the version of xchat??08:59
Pie-ratecens0red: no, what software player are you using?08:59
vulcaniusSiv0x: are you using regular PC speakers or are you going to a receiver through SPDIF, optical, etc?08:59
AdramelechSiv0x: what you did last time? single command? or a config file?08:59
starzrunning 2.4.4 :/ i odnt like 2.6.x08:59
Pie-ratecens0red: like totem, mplayer, vlc?08:59
Siv0xvulcanius: all i had to do to get sound last time was something like ``amixer set default and i set my sound blaster audigy 2 zs to default sound card. and it worked. - i just cant remember the command08:59
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cens0redPie-rate yes I'm sure I ran. I ran it again just then. I have tried  totem, mplayer, vlc, and ogle.08:59
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rapidstarz: maybe. try a DCC GET08:59
gatenstarz:  its possible. you could check the xchat forums09:00
Siv0xAdramelech: all i know is it started with ``amixer, then it asked me which card i wanted set as default.09:00
starzwell im gonna enable backports and install 2.6.x instead and try it09:00
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Siv0xvulcanius: i am using regular pc speakers, 2 of them and a subwoofer.09:00
starzrapid, i can get dcc gets from most ppl if they are ported correctly or not firewalled already09:01
vulcaniusSiv0x: have you verified the card is recognized? like through doing "aplay -l" and making sure it exists?09:01
starzbut if they have any firewall or are ported shabbily then no go !__________!09:01
starzperhaps my router needs some time off >.>09:01
rapidperhaps, not.09:01
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starzlol09:01
Siv0xvulcanius: actually no, i'm new with linux.. i can try that now that you told me the command.09:01
gatenanyone know why i cant change the icon of my wow shortcut? ive extracted the icon, even tried renaming it to png09:02
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harry!partition09:02
vulcaniusyes, in a terminal type "aplay -l" and paste it to me in a private message09:02
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter09:02
othI installed apache2, mysql, php, phpmyadmin09:02
othphp works fine09:02
rapidyou now have a lamp.09:02
othwhen I access the phpmyadmin dir from the browser09:02
harry!fstab09:02
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions09:02
Pie-ratecens0red: not sure what else it could be09:02
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othI get download a phtml file09:03
cens0redPie-rate well I've been searching all the forums. Heaps of people with the same problem, no solutions.09:03
othanyone got a clue what might cause this ?09:03
starzoh yeah gaten // rapid in dapper [i downgraded from edgy to dapper to breezy lol cpu issues // disk access issues]  i could dcc chat but only if i was ssl connected to ircd which was really unusual....09:04
vulcaniusoth, maybe your apache server does not recognize the file extension .phtml as a php file09:04
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Siv0xvulcanius: did you get that pm?09:04
vulcaniusum..... i don't believe so09:04
Siv0xvulcanius: how about just join #siv0x and help me there? - i'm using gaim so i doubt its working right.09:05
othvulcanius:  but there are no phtml fils in there09:05
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starzinteresting......... yeah upgrading didnt help either guyz09:05
vulcaniussure09:05
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Siv0xk.09:05
oththere are only .php files09:05
starzi think there was an issue with this in dapper before... perhaps it was a kernel thing09:05
starzis there a guide so i can build a kernel that is later on in the build?09:05
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starzLinux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Tue Dec 12 15:56:39 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux09:06
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starzperhaps i could build kernel say 2.6.16-xx09:06
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starz!compile kernel09:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compile kernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:06
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Deon|awayis there a command in *nix to show my current CPU usage?09:07
mcquaidhello, I've been having random lockups with my nvidia card.  I was using a rep with the latest for beryl.  I decided to downgrade to offical edgy nvidia09:07
CheyenneDCan anyone tell me some free ISO creating program for Windows(WINE) or native linux?09:07
vulcaniusDeon|away: "top"09:07
mcquaidi actually downgraded to edgy-security update and now the nvidia driver won't work so I'm using nv09:07
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gatenstarz:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5683509:07
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mcquaidso I decided to downgrade to edgy version that I originally had (not the security update one) and when I force that version it wants to install:09:08
Deon|awayvulcanius: thank you09:08
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starzgaten, thanx i'll check it out ^_^09:08
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gatenCheyenneD:  you can create an iso in ubuntu by browsing for the file and right clicking on it and selecting 'write to disk'09:08
vulcaniusnp09:08
mcquaidxen-image and xen-restricted-modules09:08
gatenstarz:  np09:08
mcquaidwtf is xen?09:08
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arrenlexmcquaid: A virtualiser.09:08
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arrenlex!xen09:08
ubotuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy09:08
mcquaidokay.....09:08
mcquaidok but i don't want, nor do i think i need xen.  So if i want to install the original edgy nvidia driver why is it flagging this for installation?09:09
gatenanyone run beryl and wow? im wondering about the performace hit09:10
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_Adramelech_mcquaid: What your video card?09:10
starzgaten, am i restricted to 6.11 ? or can i apply that further up the chain? i would like to go to at least 14 or 16 if i can09:10
mcquaidgeforce 620009:11
gatenstarz:  no idea why you would be. im on 1509:11
mcquaid_Adramelech_, arrenlex I was using this rep for latest nvidia http://albertomilone.com/drivers/edgy/nonlegacy/32bit binary/ so I can use beryl09:11
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mcquaidbut I'm having issues and just want the stalk nvidia driver edgy provides09:12
mwalker_mewcons1how do I install a tar.bz2?09:12
starzo awesome thats exactly what i'm looking for!!!09:12
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_Adramelech_mcquaid: there was a bug with 9xxx series but dunno if 6200 is afected i think only 3xxx and 4xxx09:12
mwalker_mewcons1is it the same as tar.gz?09:12
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gatenlol09:12
gatenmwalker_mewcons1:  same ideam different compression09:12
mcquaid_Adramelech_, ya it's probably not my issue.  I think it's more acpi related09:12
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mcquaidit was a stab in the dark but I thought I'd try downgrading09:12
gatenmwalker_mewcons1:  bzip2 (bz2) rather than gzip (.gz)09:12
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mcquaiddon't know why the nvidia edgy security won't find any X screens09:13
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mcquaidand I find it more puzzling if I want the original edgy version that it's forcing xen09:13
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mcquaidnot sure what to do now09:13
_Adramelech_mcquaid: same happened to me and it was cause of restricted modules no matching the nvidia drivers09:13
_Adramelech_mcquaid: so i went back to the milestone ones :)09:13
starzgaten, what flav ubuntu u got/ breezy/dapper/edgy ?09:14
mcquaidwhich milestone ones are you referring to?09:14
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_Adramelech_the repo u said09:14
mcquaidah09:14
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mcquaiddamn it09:14
mcquaidheh09:14
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gatenstarz:  drapper09:14
gatenstarz:  and edgy on my server09:15
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starzyup thought so ... linux-tree only up to 2.6.12 for breezy up there... *checks backports*09:15
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cens0redPie-rate hey I just went out and bought another dvd. It works!!09:15
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_Adramelech_XD09:15
_Adramelech_cens0red: you fixed ti the windows way :P09:15
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starz_Adramelech_, he seems to be so happy he left XD09:16
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_Adramelech_:(09:16
mcquaidwell, forced a downgrade of restricted modules and nvidia-glx and it's not flagging xen to be installed now09:17
mcquaidso i'll install that and see how it goes09:17
alienseer23can anyone tell me how to configure the alsa to 5.1 by default? (or even just repeated stereo to the rear chanells)?09:17
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mcquaideven though I think it's an acpi issue09:17
mcquaidbtw, i tried disabling acpi and my system seg faulted on bootup09:17
mcquaidwhy would acpi need to be enabled?09:17
_Adramelech_mwalker: lol09:17
_Adramelech_mcquaid: lol09:18
vulcanius_Adramelech_: heh, talking to imaginary people now?09:18
vulcaniusdoh09:18
mcquaidwhat's funny. that my system seg faults without acpi? i know it's a riot09:18
tim167how do I rotate an image 90 in OpenOffice ???09:18
_Adramelech_i know :(09:18
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IZprincethis could take a while, I have to build WINE from source, cause all they have is a 386 package09:20
hastesavertim167, why are you using OpenOffice to edit images? Isn't it for word processing, spreadsheets, etc.?09:20
IZprincethey say go get a sandwich09:20
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IZprincemore like go on vacation09:20
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hastesaverIZprince, 386 should be fine, right? Many Ubuntu packages are -386 by default, IIRC09:21
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tim167hastesaver: i just need to put several scanned documents into one file, some have to be rotated09:21
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IZprincewould it run alright on AMD64?09:21
IZprinceI wasn't sure so I decided to just grab the source09:22
hastesaverIZprince, oh, sorry. Too self-centred of me :-)09:22
hastesaverIZprince, no, it probably won't work. sorry09:22
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tim167hastesaver: I cant beleive that a function as basic as rotating an image is so well hidden in OpenOffice09:23
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daishadarwhenever i apt-get install something, it lists suggested packages but i always forget to install them later... is there a way to list all suggested packages for currently installed packages?09:23
IZprincetim167: Practical joke?09:23
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hastesavertim167, yeah, I hate OpenOffice too... try #users.openoffice.org maybe09:24
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IZprinceI haven't messed with Open Office much09:24
IZprincethats based on Star Office though, which was a real dog last time I used it09:25
IZprinceof course that was like 6 years ago on Windows09:25
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hastesavertim167, but of course, you could, in principle, rotate the image outside Oo.o (in an image editor), and then plug it in09:25
IZprinceand I believe everything ran in a JAVA VM09:25
ootputgday fellas, i've downloaded a gtk2 theme from gnome-look, but I can't seem to make System-preferences-themes recognise it after copying it to /usr/share/themes09:25
gatendaishadar:  what? suggested packages for currently installed packages?09:26
ootputhow do i get it recognised without restarting my session?09:26
_Adramelech_ooput: drag and drop the downloaded file to the theme settings window09:26
hastesaverdaishadar, yes. One way I know is to start Aptitude :-)09:26
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ootput_Adramelech_: oh, simple enough!09:27
ootput_Adramelech_: cheers mate!09:28
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con-manim trying to copy a directory but it keeps omitting it09:28
con-man cp World\ of\ Warcraft/ /home/con-man/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/09:28
daishadarhastesaver, oh ;)09:28
con-manideas09:28
ootputcon-man: cp -rv path_to_source path_to_destination09:29
hastesavercon-man, cp -R.09:29
ootputcon-man: the man-page mentions recursive copy09:29
hastesavercon-man, also, if the spaces bother you, use cp "World<TAB>", the quotes should take care of things.09:29
con-manit worked thanks09:30
con-manand i dont type spaces09:30
con-mani tab09:30
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con-mancause yes, that would bother me09:30
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saturn_Please help me to upgrade system from 6.06 to 6.10!09:31
_Adramelech_saturn: Have you tried any method?09:31
hastesaver!upgrade | saturn_09:32
ubotusaturn_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes09:32
saturn_yes, gksu "update-manager -c -d", but there were some errors09:32
_Adramelech_wich errors?09:32
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saturn_there were not some archives on server09:33
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_Adramelech_saturn: did you reboot?09:34
saturn_yes09:34
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IZprinceoh boy, it's giving me page after page of warnings09:35
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IZprincethis is gonna be great09:35
saturn_now I'm trying the ubotu's url09:35
_Adramelech_saturn: then i guess u got edgy09:35
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con-manjoin #wine09:36
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_Adramelech_saturn: System->About Ubuntu09:36
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con-manim having issues with the audio tab of winecfg09:36
con-mancan't create mcop directory09:36
aNi`hi all can anyone please write a guide to the hal.dll missing (when booting windoze)  issue after edgy install?09:36
saturn_Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found09:36
saturn_Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found09:36
daishadaris the signal strength output of network-manager-gnome reliable? my wifi card is literally 1 foot from the router and i'm getting 61%...09:37
saturn_what can I do with those errors?09:37
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con-manim having issues with the audio tab of winecfg09:37
con-mancan't create mcop directory09:37
hastesaversaturn_, remove them from your sources.list.09:38
saturn_how?09:38
hastesaver!repositories | saturn_09:38
ubotusaturn_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource09:38
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_Adramelech_saturn: back it up first =)09:38
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aNi`hi all can anyone please write a guide to the hal.dll missing (when booting windoze) issue after edgy install?09:39
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con-manim having issues with the audio tab of winecfg09:39
con-mancan't create mcop directory09:39
_Adramelech_con_man: permissions?09:39
con-man_Adramelech_: what do you mean09:39
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_Adramelech_con:man: why it cant, whats the exact error09:40
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con-man_Adramelech_: when I click the audio tab winecfg closes, and I get the message in console:can't create mcop directory09:41
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saturn__Adramelech_:Please, don't laugh, I'm using Ubuntu just 2 months and English isn't my language!09:41
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xipietoteccan I put a svn address in my sources.list? not a deb-svn but a straight svn://svn09:42
_Adramelech_saturn: me neither09:42
xipietotec?09:42
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con-man_Adramelech_: when I click the audio tab winecfg closes, and I get the message in console:can't create mcop directory09:42
saturn_just say what I need to upgrade with those errors09:42
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KenSentMeUbuntu reacts when i insert a SD card into the card reader of my laptop, but memory stick isn't recognised. For what package should i file a bug, or how to get it solved?09:43
_Adramelech_saturn: you entered the command you told me and reboot right?09:43
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hastesaversaturn_, go to your repository list, and remove those freecontrib stuff.09:43
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xipietotecKenSentMe: what kind of memory stick?09:43
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KenSentMexipietotec: Memory Stick Pro09:43
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xipietotecKenSentMe: the Playstation ones?09:44
saturn_ _Adramelech_: yes09:44
xipietotecerr PSP09:44
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_Adramelech_con-man: http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-bugs/2006-September/038594.html09:44
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KenSentMexipietotec: no, just a 'regular' MS Pro Duo from my SE cellphone09:44
lordhelmetwhat can i use to open and read .chm files...09:44
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_Adramelech_saturn: didnt anything change? go to system->About Ubuntu and read the current version you have09:45
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xipietotecKenSentMe: I'd try formatting it and uninstalling any pre-packaged firmware on it if you can...that solves 90% of all problems09:45
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lordhelmetah nm found it09:45
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saturn_ _Adramelech_: 6.0609:46
KenSentMexipietotec: but there's totally no reaction in dmesg when i insert it09:46
KenSentMexipietotec: and formatting can't be done because all my phonenumbers are on it09:46
lordhelmetokay i take that back....i can preview with KChmPart in konqueror....but....09:46
_Adramelech_saturn: so the upgrade abort when it didnt find those files?09:47
lordhelmetkchmviewer09:47
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Xbehave!ubotu mouse > Xbehave09:47
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Jazonhi.  ubuntu has stopped recognizing my swap partition signature.  how can I recify this?09:47
saturn_ _Adramelech_: some people tells me to edit some list, what it means and could it help the problem?09:48
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_Adramelech_saturn: yes09:48
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xipietotecKenSentMe: does the Memory Stick Duo use the same slot as an SD card slot?09:48
KenSentMexipietotec: yes it does09:48
saturn_ _Adramelech_: repositary list09:48
_Adramelech_saturn: join #saturn channel09:49
KenSentMexipietotec: lspci even has this line 04:01.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 08)09:49
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xipietotecKenSentMe: I'd try formatting the Memory stick in Windows, or removing the software through whatever onboard installed utility might be on it09:49
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xipietotecI had a similar problem with a USB drive awhile back...the only way to remove the installed software/semi-firmware was to use the program in windows, to uninstall it.09:50
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harry!gparted09:51
ubotugparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php09:51
xipietotecharry: gparted wouldn't even remove it09:51
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xipietotecthe software literally locked the system volume beyond all ability to add permissions in linux09:52
harryxipietotec: what do you mean? did i said something09:52
Casanova[OT]  http://prashblog.com/2006/12/29/kurukshetra-07-online-programming-contest/09:53
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Jazonmy swap problem happened moving to edgy09:53
xipietotecharry: thought you were referencing gparted to me being unable to remove some firmware from a USB drive in linux, awhile back. sorry =)09:53
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harryxipietotec: ah ok, anyway can gparted merge my other partition to my current partition in ubuntu? i want to remove my windows permanently and add the space to my ubuntu w/o reformatting everything09:55
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xipietotecharry: beyond my expertise. =\09:56
Jazonharry: back up all your data!!!!  and then use the gParted LIVECD09:56
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JazonI have done it.  but it is not without risk.  the livecd is by far the best way.09:57
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Jazonany comments on my suggestion?09:57
harryJazon: do i really have to insert the livecd instead of installing the gparted and remove the windows and then add that paritition to my ubuntu?09:57
Jazonharry: use the livecd.09:58
Jazonboot off the cd09:58
Jazonand back up data09:58
harryJazon: why?09:58
anto9usharry, you can do it that way, you can add it as an extra mount point called /data or something09:58
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con-manWOOT09:58
con-manI GOT WoW WORKING IN LINUX09:59
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anto9usharry, you can't work on mounted partitions though, which is why Jazon suggests the livecd09:59
con-man<----THE MAN09:59
aNi`they need to fix the ubuntu forum09:59
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DarthLappycon-man: Apparently it's not a difficult feat...09:59
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krautmoin09:59
_Adramelech_con-man: glad it works =)09:59
harryanto9us: but trying to make my partition as a whole again I really have to reformat everything?09:59
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con-manDarthLappy: its not hard for most ppl09:59
Plutoprimeheh... i hope the day comes when you don't have to feel like you have climbed mount everest just because you installed a computer game :)09:59
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con-manDarthLappy: i had other problems09:59
con-manI agree09:59
fnord_lol everest is easy copmared to that10:00
con-manbut now that ive climbed the mountain10:00
con-manim happy10:00
con-manand im off to bed10:00
con-mani have to be up in 3.5 hours for week10:00
Plutoprimeoh come on10:00
con-manwork10:00
harryJazon: ok, so I dont have to reformat everything but  i can delete the other partition and add it to my current ubuntu w/o reformatting10:00
Plutoprimea few raids wouldnt hurt10:00
anto9usharry, you can add an extra mount point without any reformatting10:00
con-manhahaha10:00
Plutoprime:)10:00
con-man3.5 hours to sleep before work10:00
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harryanto9us: but doing that, you also recommend using the live cd instead?10:01
harryJazon: ok, so I dont have to reformat everything but  i can delete the other partition and add it to my current ubuntu w/o reformatting?10:01
anto9usharry, no need10:01
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Pie-rateHey cool, I found something gthumb image viewer is actually good for: crashing! A lot!10:01
harryanto9us: i'll just install it then10:01
Jazonharry: dude!  use the livecd!!!!!10:02
fnord_on kubuntu when you let your mouse sit over a image file for a sec a larger preview pops up along with file info,is there a program to do that for gnome?10:02
Jazonharry: it is painless.  it is only like 32 meg or something10:02
Plutoprimefnord_: not yet to my knowledge10:02
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Plutoprimefnord_: you could file a an enhancement bug in GNOME bugzilla10:03
Plutoprimebut do a search.. there is one probably already10:03
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Plutoprimeit'll be implemented by GNOME 5.010:03
Jazonanto9us: why do think not necessary?  livecd is the safest way to use gparted when modding your system partition imho.10:03
fnord_cool10:03
Plutoprimei just hope that i'm not a senior citizen by the time 5.0 comes out :p10:04
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fnord_can you use gparted to resize a active partition?10:04
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anto9usJazon, personally, I think there's less danger for him this way, he's not working on his existing Ubuntu partitions, just adding new ones10:04
Plutoprimeno10:04
Plutoprimenot like partition magic at least10:04
anto9usfnord_, yes, you can resize a partition provided it's not mounted10:04
firepolhi there, i want to connect a printer to ,y ubuntu box and share it with another ubuntu box. is it correct to install it first (test it) locally and then share it? how to share it? ;)10:05
fnord_i only have 1 partition(not counting swap)and i want to resize and add a new one with the newly freed space10:05
Jazonfnord_: again, I say gparted livecd.  its valuable tool, and small.10:05
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fnord_no live cd :(10:05
Jazonbe careful though.10:05
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violotMake is ignoring the first few chars of my variables 0_o10:05
fnord_lol my aim away message right now is "fdisk is your friend"10:05
vulcaniusanyone know of a 3D8 chess game for gnome?10:06
violotScrew it, it's 4:00 AM10:06
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anto9usJazon, good advice :)10:06
Plutoprimevulcanius: did you just read digg?10:07
fnord_theres a 3d chess game but its the kind with 3 boards10:07
vulcaniusPlutoprime: exactly10:07
harryJazon   anto9us: so whats best you recommend guys?10:07
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kadkwhat permission can you give to a user if you want him to just download and not modify and delete?10:07
vulcaniusPlutoprime: what else would I be doing at 4 in the morning? lol10:07
Plutoprimehehe10:07
PlutoprimeHAHAHA10:07
Plutoprimeomg.. so true so true10:07
Plutoprimerespect man.. respect10:07
vulcaniuslol10:08
PlutoprimeI just wish everything in the real world would come with a digg/burry button10:08
Plutoprimelike people .. etc10:08
Jazonharry: best advice?  do a complete backup onto another hdd.  then once you have verified *all* is backed up perfectly, use the gparted livecd to play with your partitions.  if things screw up, you then have your backup :-)10:08
vulcaniusmy Lame buried list would be huge10:08
Plutoprimeheh10:08
fnord_wrong place but would a windows 2000 cd autoboot and let me resize my partition during a install?i havent used windows in a long time10:08
harryJazon: the problem is I don't have a tool for backing up my huge file.10:09
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Jazonharry cp is your friend10:09
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Jazonharry: what do you mean a tool10:09
harryJazon: cp? cellphone?10:09
imbecilehey how do i install codecs to movie player?10:09
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Plutoprimefnord_: no10:09
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Plutoprimefnord_: use an ubuntu livecd instead10:10
vulcaniusmmmmmmmm....my fingers smell like cat treats10:10
harryJazon: a writer.. i dont have a thing, and my USB flash drive is only 128 mb10:10
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harryimbecile! codecs!10:10
harrycodecd!10:10
harrycodecs!10:10
Jazonharry: use gmail or something then10:10
imbecilein terminal?10:10
harryimbecile: what media player are you using?10:11
Plutoprimewow.. i thought harry was calling someone imbecile10:11
oturrhi every one i have a problem. I installed google picassa with this command sudo dpkg --force-architecture -i picasa_2.2.2820-5_i386.deb. It was installed but doesnt work. Do u have any idea. 10x in advance10:11
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Plutoprimebut then again.. he was calling someone imbecile...10:11
Jazonharry: but backup your data at least.  use hjsplit to break up large data files into 10mb chunks and email them to yourself on your gmail ccount10:11
Jazon*account10:11
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Plutoprimethe guy just happened to be imbecile...10:11
harryPlutoprime: no... hahahahaha. its the name of the user10:11
imbecileim trying to open them in vlc but i dont see the option10:11
Plutoprimei think i really need to go sleep.. don't listen to me10:12
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harryJazon: thats good, whats hjsplit... i'm really a newbie10:12
imbecileyes go to sleep plutoprime10:12
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hdibanihi everybody, i am n edgy and just followed the steps here to install beryl http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA. the problem is now i have beryl working without window borders10:12
harryimbecile: what them? please be specific10:13
hdibanidoes anybody know what i might have done wrong?10:13
Jazonharry: google hjsplit. oh, and the windoze version is easiest - works perfectly inwine10:13
Pie-rateAny way to get Folding@Home in a repository?10:13
imbecileharry, i am trying to open movie file on ntfs partition10:13
fnord_vulcanius, what kind/flavor?i like the beef ones10:13
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imbecile!codecs10:14
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:14
harryimbecile: you mean from the ntfs partition? what kind of movie file, avi, mkv, .....etc?10:14
fnord_hdibani, try #beryl or #xgl10:14
imbecileharry, avi10:14
harryimbecile: what version of ubuntu are you using?10:14
imbeciledapper drake10:15
fnord_how do i uninstall cups?10:15
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fnord_completly?10:15
harryimbecile: i'm not really familiar with it, when i was still using dapper, i'm using mplayer to play my avi files.10:15
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hdibanifnord: i have tried $beryl but i have the same problem10:15
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imbecileill try mplayer10:16
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harryimbecile: try doing "sudo apt-get install mplayer" that should be playing avi10:16
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harryimbecile: i'm currently using edgy10:16
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SS2can I copy mtab entrys into fstab?10:16
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_Adramelech_hdibani: if window borders and decorations are not showing up, try changing DefaultDepth to 24 in the Screen section10:17
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gatendoes anyone use portsentry?10:17
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fnord_how do i uninstall CUPS?i dont have a printer so i shouldedt need it right?10:17
gatenfnord_:  you could simply disable the service.10:18
SS2right, but you don't need to uninstall it10:18
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fnord_how?10:18
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gatensomeone correct me if im wrong but sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/cupsys should do the trick10:19
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sovieticoolhi all10:19
sovieticooli don't know how to upgrade to the last ubuntu version10:20
harry!hjsplit10:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hjsplit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:20
sovieticooli have 5.110:20
SS2sovieticool: there is no ubuntu version 5.110:21
sovieticool:)10:21
sovieticool5.1010:21
sovieticoolsorruy10:21
sovieticoolsorry\10:21
SS2sounds better now10:21
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sovieticoolok can you help me ?10:22
theflyingfooli have my wireless card working, well sort of, but i was wondering if it might work better using ndiswrapper10:22
SS2sovieticool: I have never upgraded a system to a new release, always did a re install10:22
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stjepanI need some help... got banned at ##c and can't contact the channel operator there... can anyone help me?10:22
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SS2because like this, it could never go wrong ;)10:23
sovieticoolmaybe can you help to upgrade my firefox10:23
sovieticooli want to install the lastest but i don't have the install cd10:23
sovieticooland will take to much to ship it10:23
sovieticooli am from ROMANIA10:24
SS2no download posibillities?10:24
imbecileharry, it says "you do not have a decoder to handle this file,you might need to install the necessary plugin"10:24
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imbecilebut is a regular avi10:24
imbecilei know vlc handles this10:24
lazzhi guys I do have important question is some one can answer me10:24
SS2sovieticool: you can still order dapper ship-its, they are still availible10:25
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theflyingfooli am having some slight issues with downloading email with on my edgy box, would using ndiswrapper with the driver from the cd that came with it fix that?10:25
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lazzI have installed windows on my pc and the boot loader for ubuntu is gone..how to I reinstall it from the live CD?10:25
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gaten!grub10:25
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:25
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imbecileanyone, i am trying to play avi in mplayer and it says "you do not have a decoder to handle this file,you might need to install the necessary plugin" any sugestions?10:26
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SS2imbecile: yep, missing decoder10:26
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gatensovieticool:  you can just download from their website and install it.10:26
imbeciless2 how do install codecs?10:26
lazzthank you guys10:26
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SS2imbecile: try it with the w32codecs paket10:27
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SS2imbecile: you will find it at the mplayer homepage, it is also availible in a deb package10:27
imbecileSS2, how do i find that?10:27
fnord_!codecs10:27
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:27
harryimbecile: mplayer also handles it10:27
SS2just answered10:27
imbecileSS2, ahh thanks10:27
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fnord_!codecs | imbecile,10:27
ubotuimbecile,: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:27
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SS2that page is also fine :)10:28
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fnord_imbecile, that link should have every codec youll need,but remember some of them are ieagle to use in the us10:28
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Agent_Khi10:29
jakub_siema all10:29
jakub_sa tu polacy?10:29
jakub_...10:29
Agent_Kive finally decided to ditch windows for ever10:30
jakub_chyba nie10:30
jakub_trudno10:30
Agent_Kok no english in here then10:30
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SS2lol10:31
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imbecileok im @ http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/ i am running x86 dapper rake which codec pack should i use?10:31
Wyglifhi! I have a problem connecting to my share from linux to linux box. i get error timeout connecting to 192.168.1.1:44510:31
imbecilefor avi10:31
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SS2!Codecs | imbecile10:32
ubotuimbecile: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:32
imbecilei wish i could just get vlc player going10:32
SS2imbecile: look at this page10:32
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fnord_imbecile, if your looking for a quick fix try automarix or easyubuntu,be warned theyve been know to cause problems10:32
fnord_!easyubuntu10:32
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu10:32
Nameeaterhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs10:32
fnord_!automatix10:32
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ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe10:32
SS2easyubuntu and the rest of them are evil...10:33
SS2not to users, but to your system10:33
_Adramelech_?10:33
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theflyingfooldoes anyone know where i should start for wireless troubleshooting10:34
SS2theflyingfool: at you chipset, what type is it?10:34
lordhelmettheflyingfool: what's wrong?10:34
theflyingfoolatheros chipset10:35
SS2theflyingfool: fine :)10:35
theflyingfooland i can only get on irc when it feels like it10:35
SS2just install the restricted modules10:35
theflyingfooland i can download my email with evolution on occasion10:35
fnord_theflyingfool, hammers work good for wifi diagnostics10:35
theflyingfooli have the resticeted mudoals10:35
lordhelmetwhat he said. i'm pretty sure the atheros stuff is in the restricted modules package10:36
SS2theflyingfool: have you tried the network-manager?10:36
lordhelmetor knetworkmanager if you use kde10:36
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theflyingfoolinstalling network-manager right now10:36
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SS2theflyingfool: will then need do comment all entries of /etc/network/interfaces instead of auto lo, iface lo inet loopback10:38
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fnord_theflyingfool, go to system=>admin=>networking10:38
theflyingfooleverything except irc and evolution work flawlessly10:39
Pie-rateI intend to use my GPU as a spaceheater, what should I use to put load on it?10:39
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SS2play a heavy 3d game ;)10:39
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Pie-ratemeh, i want folding@home to be able to run at the same time10:39
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fnord_take some ram out and try running frostwire,dont forget to put your max dowloads up to 200 and download tons of dvds10:40
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Pie-rateactually probably just leaving beryl idling should just about do it, eh?10:40
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fnord_3d animation rendering10:40
fnord_then throw some smores on a coat hanger and hover them over your box10:41
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fnord_!offtopic | fnord_10:41
ubotufnord_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:41
theflyingfoolhow do i start the network manager10:42
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fnord_are you in a terminal?10:42
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kalaxmarI'm on an AMD64 and I'm trying to upgrade to a 6.10 from a 6.06. On using "sudo update-manager -c" I keep getting this error continuously  "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Bzip2 subprocess returned an error code (2)". Then the update-manager aborts and I can't upgrade. Any workaround or solution to this issue?10:42
invernoIs anyone pretty handy with troubleshooting failed installs?10:42
theflyingfooli can be in terminal10:42
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Pie-ratehow long until the next release of ubuntu?10:42
fnord_march?10:43
fnord_!fiesty\10:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fiesty\ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:43
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Pie-rate!ask|inverno10:43
ubotuinverno: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:43
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fnord_!feisty10:43
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invernoOkay then. I've been trying to install Ubuntu for a while now, downloading and burning the cd several times. Whenever I go to start/install the os it loads a orangish screen and gives me a cursor. After a few seconds the cursor stops moving. If I do the video safe option a box that says 'ubuntu' in the upper right comes up, and then it locks.10:43
fnord_!feisty | Pie-rate,10:43
ubotuPie-rate,: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+110:44
fnord_!gnome10:44
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.10:44
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firepolhi, how is it possible to change print options from openoffice (e.g. print only in grey scale, or decrease/increase print quality)? I'm using a good HP 1600 Series printer10:44
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fnord_whens the next version of gnome?10:44
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Slartinverno: try downloading the alternate install disc.. it's text based and works better10:44
theflyingfooldoes network-manager require a restart?10:44
Slartinverno: it's on the main site somewhere.. can't remember exactly10:44
invernoThanks Slart10:44
fnord_theflyingfool, shouldent10:44
kalaxmarI'm on an AMD64 and I'm trying to upgrade to a 6.10 from a 6.06. On using "sudo update-manager -c" I keep getting this error continuously  "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Bzip2 subprocess returned an error code (2)". Then the update-manager aborts and I can't upgrade. Any workaround or solution to this issue?10:44
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fnord_theflyingfool, have you tryed opening it?10:45
theflyingfoolfnord_: then how do i bring it up/use it or is it automatic10:45
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fnord_theflyingfool, go to a terminal10:45
theflyingfooland the command is?10:45
fnord_type net then hit tab10:45
theflyingfoolnicholas@TheBeast:~$ net10:45
theflyingfoolnet            netcat         netstat10:45
theflyingfoolnetbug         netkit-ftp     network-admin10:45
fnord_a list of commands will pop up and you should be able to tell which one it is10:46
fnord_hmm10:46
GeraldI've a really noob question, but I just cant find it on the internet: how do I simple install a application such as Firefox 2.0.0.1 or jEdit 4.2??10:46
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kalaxmarI thought the upgrades were done automatically10:46
fnord_im not sure10:46
kalaxmarbut it seems that they are quite buggy10:46
fnord_what is it you want it to do?10:46
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harrisony1Gerald, try in terminal sudo apt-get install firefox10:46
harrisony1or sudo apt-get install jedit10:46
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SlartGerald: or run synaptic package manager it's in System, Administration10:47
fnord_theflyingfool, go to system admin then networking10:47
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Pie-rateGarald: or if you prefer GUIs use add/remove under applications or synaptic under system->administration10:47
theflyingfoolfnord_: it looks just like it always has10:47
fnord_you should be able to configure your card from there10:47
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SlartGerald: or you can use the "Add remove programs" thingy in Applications menu10:47
fnord_whos network you going thru?10:47
fnord_is it far away?10:47
Geraldyes, but in the synaptic thing i cant find the programs I've downloaded (there are on by desk)10:47
theflyingfooli am using my wireless network now, and it always refuses to download my email10:48
fnord_i had a problem like that too,10:48
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theflyingfooland about 90 % of the time it refuses to connect to irc10:48
Zante;d10:48
SlartGerald: System menu, administration, synaptic package manager10:48
harrisony1Gerald, what do you mean you cant find them10:48
fnord_brb10:48
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Zantefinally got around to connecting to this channel10:48
Zantehis!10:48
Jazonproblems with swap after moving to edgy.  it is saying invalid swap signature - know how i can fix this?10:49
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Pie-ratejedit isn't in the repo, firefox should already be there10:49
fnord_theflyingfool, if you dont have a set router you go thru change your eesid to "any"10:49
harrisony1!jedit10:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jedit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:49
fnord_itll autonaticly select the best open connection10:49
Geraldharrisonly, well, i've downloaded jedit42install.jar for example, thats on my desk now, but in Synaptic I cant find the program ' jedit'10:49
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fnord_anyone know where to get animated startup screens?10:50
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theflyingfoolfnord_: i am on my home router wouldnt doing that be a security risk?10:50
cafuego_do you really start your machine that often?10:50
fnord_oh10:50
rawrbbqhum, what would be a bad test result in memtest86?10:50
Pie-rateGerald: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre10:50
_root____where are the gtk theme preferences stored? my username is sorta dead now due to a theme screwing everything up10:50
harrisony1Gerald, synaptic only works with programs downloaded via the repositories10:50
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cafuego_rawrbbq: when it finds bad ram. ANY bad ram.10:51
rawrbbqhum10:51
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Tomcat_Jazon: Did you format your swap when installing?10:51
fnord_theflyingfool, never mind10:51
Pie-rateGerald: then java -jar Desktop/jedit42install.jar10:51
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Jazonit was fine, until moving to edgy10:51
rawrbbqcafuego_: so, 1.2million errors is that bad?10:51
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Tomcat_Jazon: Basically, vol_id -u /dev/<yourswap>, then put the UUID into /etc/fstab10:51
fnord_hmm i dont know how close are you to the router?it cuild be dropped packets10:51
cafuego_rawrbbq: Yes, time to pull the stick of ram, get the durst off, reseat it and retest.10:51
fnord_type iwconfig into a consol10:51
JazonTomcat_: /dev/hda3: error open volume10:52
rawrbbqcafuego: hum.. but it is a laptop, and I am not keen at messing with it10:52
theflyingfooli am at about 80% signal the router is right outside my door10:52
fnord_whats the signal level10:52
fnord_brb10:52
Pie-ratecafuego_: what's durst?10:52
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eviltwinhi10:52
GeraldPie-rate: i get: 'noclassdefinederror'10:52
cafuego_Pie-rate: It's like dust, but with a typo.10:52
Tomcat_Jazon: sudo vol_id :)10:52
eviltwinis there a way to list all the packages that you have installed?10:53
Jazonurfff sorry10:53
eviltwinlike, to a file10:53
rawrbbqcafuego_: it has been running for 10 hours :X10:53
cafuego_rawrbbq: the ram should be under a lid on the bottom, clearly marked and easily accessible.10:53
fnord_theflyingfool, type iwevent and wait a while10:53
Pie-raterawrbbq: you either have bad ram or improperly seated ram, your laptop will need opening one way or the other10:53
fnord_see what pops up probly something about dropped packets10:53
simplechati'm trying to get ubuntu to install on my system, it can't find the dvdrom drive (which is odd because it loads off it....)10:53
rawrbbqPie-rate: yes, but if I open it I lose my warranty10:53
rawrbbqeh10:53
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simplechatits a sony AW-G170A, are there any places where i could find drivers?10:53
cafuego_rawrbbq: well10:53
JazonTomcat_: yup.  thats what is in my fstab :-(10:53
Pie-raterawrbbq: then have it fixed under warranty10:53
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kalaxmarI'm on an AMD64 and I'm trying to upgrade to a 6.10 from a 6.06. On using "sudo update-manager -c" I keep getting this error continuously  "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Bzip2 subprocess returned an error code (2)". Then the update-manager aborts and I can't upgrade. Any workaround or solution to this issue?10:53
cafuego_rawrbbq: back to the shop it is, then10:53
theflyingfool  Link Quality=38/94  Signal level=-57 dBm  Noise level=-95 dBm10:53
theflyingfool10:53
Pie-raterawrbbq it isn't your fault they gave you bad ram10:54
Tomcat_Jazon: Output of "swapon -s"?10:54
rawrbbqcafuego_: no, I just wanted it confirmed that the ram was bad :) anyhow thx for the help10:54
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simplechat??10:54
cheapshadeseviltwin: dpkg -l > file.out ?10:54
Jazonnothing10:54
cafuego_rawrbbq: Yeah, ANY log of an error is bad.10:54
JazonTomcat_: there is no output.  even as sudo ;)10:54
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fnord_theflyingfool, ive got 81/100 for link quality hmm10:55
Tomcat_Jazon: Try to "sudo mount /dev/<yourswap>"... any luck with swapon after that?10:55
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Pensa`MIAwhat's the command for tweaking nvidia settings?10:55
fnord_not quite sure what that means10:55
syracushi there, i have a problem to get my wlan ath0 interface up on system boot. card works after 'sudo ifdown ath0; sudo ifup ath0'....any ideas ?10:55
eviltwincheapshades, ty10:55
fnord_has anything poped up from iwevent?10:55
JazonTomcat_: mountpoint does not exist10:55
theflyingfoolfnord_: nope10:56
theflyingfoolnot a thing10:56
Pie-ratemy laptop is a bitch about connecting with low signal strength. works fine on windows but the linux drivers are touchier about it10:56
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theflyingfoolfnord_: are you using the restricted mods or ndiswrapper10:56
Geralddo I have to 'un-zip' a tar.gz file? how?10:56
Tomcat_Jazon: Sounds like an error in your fstab... could you paste *only* the line containing your swap here?10:56
JazonTomcat_: fdisk -l shows this: /dev/hda3            3967        4425     3686917+  82  Linux swap / Solaris10:56
Tomcat_Gerald: tar xzvf <file.tar.gz>10:56
fnord_for mine?10:56
theflyingfoolyeah10:57
fnord_whatever ubuntu installed10:57
JazonTomcat_: fstab line is this:  UUID=55073e08-64a3-438b-b0f1-4cfeeea539e8 none swap sw 0 010:57
Nighteye?10:57
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theflyingfooljazon: isnt the uuid unique to each drive?10:57
fnord_ove got one of the few wifi card that works plug and play with lots of distros10:57
JazonTomcat_: sudo vol_id -u /dev/hda3 ------> 55073e08-64a3-438b-b0f1-4cfeeea539e810:57
Tomcat_Jazon: Mh... I don't see any error. :\10:58
Jazonme neither.   i am stumped.  weird isnt it10:58
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Tomcat_Jazon: Maybe you should try to sudo mkswap /dev/hda3, then try again.10:58
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theflyingfoolfnord_: i got some random activity finaly10:58
Geraldthanks, Tomcat_10:59
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JazonTomcat_: :D:D:D   cool.11:00
JazonTomcat_: now i wonder why the heck it needed that?11:00
Tomcat_Jazon: Do you use hibernate?11:00
JazonTomcat_: suspend.  all the time11:00
JazonTomcat_: laptop.  acpi screws it up?11:01
Tomcat_Jazon: Nah, hibernate changes the swap space signature... but not suspend.11:01
JazonTomcat_: ok.  i bet i used it once then....11:01
theflyingfooldoes anyone use D-Link System Inc D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G51011:01
Jazonso now i know.  thanks a lot Tomcat_!!11:02
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wimsare there a proper graphical bitorrent client for gnome ?11:02
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GeraldWhen I have the folder 'firefox' on my desktop and I type ' sudo apt-get install firefox'  the terminal says ' already newest version'  but thats not true! Can someone give me help how to install the new firefox then?11:03
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harrisony1Gerald, just wait it isnt in the newst reps. unless you want to manually update just give it a few days11:04
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Geraldharrisonyl, I've waited for a long time, but firefox dont update himself automatically, even if I say 'check for updates'.. I've still got version 1.0.7....11:06
theflyingfoolhow do i get my email to download with evolution on a consistant basis, it works a little less than half the time, it usually just throws me a time out error every time i try and download11:06
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harrisony1Gerald, dapper or edgy11:07
Gerald??11:07
phatliphow can i upgrade firefox 1.5 to firefox 2 on dapper 6.06?11:07
firepolhi, i enabled printer sharing on a ubuntu "server" and "detect lan printers" on the client. what to do next? how can i see and use the shared printer?11:07
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Tomcat_Gerald: What Ubuntu version?11:07
Tomcat_Gerald: "when did you install?"11:07
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GeraldTomcat_ about a year ago...11:07
harrisony1!firefox11:07
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins11:07
MesserHi. I'm lame :) I have just broken fonts in firefox... on xubuntu i have clicked (in settings): Use subpixel hinting (i have lcd screen). Since this time font in FF are huge.11:07
MesserAny ideas how to fix it? :/11:08
Tomcat_Gerald: You need to upgrade to a newer Ubuntu version then to get a new Firefox.11:08
harrisony1phatlip, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVer & Gerald11:08
harrisony1oh sorry https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion11:08
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GeraldTomcat_: where can i see the current version?11:08
Tomcat_Messer: I've seen that... move ~/.mozilla to ~/mozillabackup or something, then start FF and write down the font settings... then restore your .mozilla and set those.11:09
Siv0xHello, I just installed xchat-gnome, how come it isnt appearing on the start>>internet list?11:09
Tomcat_Gerald: lsb_release -a on the console11:09
MesserTomcat_: "write down the font settings" - what exacly do you mean?11:09
harrisony1Gerald, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion will get you firefox 2.0.111:09
Tomcat_Gerald: Or "System" => "About Ubuntu"11:09
Tomcat_Messer: Write down what font settings Firefox uses by default, so you can restore them in your profile.11:10
Jazoni'm back to work - thanks again folks!11:10
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Tomcat_Siv0x: Maybe re-login... it should appear.11:10
theflyingfoolunder network tools shouldnt all of my devices be reconized11:10
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GeraldTomcat_: i've got 5.10 breezy, thats old?11:10
MesserTomcat_: umm... but where can i find a place in FF where can i restore those default fonts?11:10
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theflyingfooli have an unknown interface, and its on the device i am currently using to connect to the web11:10
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Tomcat_Gerald: Yes. Current is 6.10 edgy. (Between was 6.06 dapper)11:11
Siv0xok, and is kde 3.5.5 the newest version Tomcat_?11:11
MesserGerald: quite old...11:11
Tomcat_Siv0x: Oi, KDE? Maybe it won't appear in the KDE menu... no idea.11:11
Geraldokay, does Ubuntu update himself automatically? how?11:11
Siv0xTomcat_: no i just want to know what the newest version of that is.11:11
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Tomcat_Siv0x: 3.4.3 seems to be latest in edgy.11:12
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Tomcat_Gerald: System => Admin => Update Manager... it should tell you how to upgrade (I think)11:12
phatliper, why isn't Fx 2.0 in the ubuntu repos?11:12
_Adramelech_siv0x: got sound?11:13
Siv0xAdramelech: yep :D11:13
_Adramelech_:D11:13
Tomcat_phatlip: Because new versions of apps only get synced in new releases.11:13
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Tomcat_phatlip: Eh, wait... that was bollocks. It should be in there.11:13
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phatlipTomcat_: damn shame edgy is so broken then.11:13
MesserTomcat_: anyway - without ~/.mozilla dir Firefox starts with default settings, but fonts are still huge :/11:13
Siv0xAdramelech: can you pm me pls? if i pm you, you wont receive it because i am on gaim.11:14
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Tomcat_Messer: Then it must be your system fonts... try Prefs => Fonts... are all the fonts at size 10?11:14
firepolhi there, anybody knows how to SHARE a PRINTER between 2 ubuntu boxes? this guide doesnt give me results: http://occy.net/printing11:14
_Adramelech_Siv0x: done11:14
Yoshimitsuanyone had success with wireless on PPC11:15
MesserTomcat_: Sans 11 (in XFCE -> User Interface Preferences). It's the oncly place where i can set fonts for xfce perhaps.11:15
Siv0xAdramelech: your not getting my reply?11:15
_Adramelech_Siv0x: nope11:16
_Adramelech_Siv0x: i guess #Siv0x again :P11:16
Siv0xAdramelech: k11:16
Tomcat_Messer: No idea then, sorry... should be alright. :I11:16
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phatlipYoshimitsu: i read a blog with a PowerBook set-up where he got wireless to work11:16
phatlipjust a sec11:17
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Yoshimitsuyeah i got one to however he was able to get the firmware11:17
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Yoshimitsuunfortunatley i dont have OSX residing on my notebook anymore11:17
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phatlipYoshimitsu: modprobe new_wlan_scan_sta11:19
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Yoshimitsuthanks ill give that try11:20
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phatlipthen get network manager from synaptic and use that to configure your airport11:20
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YoshimitsuFATAL:Module new_wlan_scan_sta not found11:20
phatlipYoshimitsu: damn, why did you trash your os x install?11:20
phatlipsudo?11:21
Yoshimitsufraid so11:21
Yoshimitsuyes sudo11:21
Yoshimitsureturned FATAL11:21
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Yoshimitsuso i guess im going to have to play with apt reps then jack in and get network manager11:22
xst_After upgrading to edgy the fonts in emacs became very ugly and were no longer antialized. How can I fix that?11:23
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syracus*re*11:23
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Yoshimitsuactually i found the firmware online in a nicely rolled up .deb all11:24
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tau_hi - I was wondering if anyone knows what the difference is between /etc/crontab and the root's crontab accessed by "crontab -l" ?11:24
Yoshimitsuunfortunatley its not working when i try dpkg11:24
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stefgDid anyone try looking glass https://lg3d.dev.java.net/lg3d-getting-started.html#Synaptic_Install here? Is it worth the effort to testdrive it? will it remove again without consequences?11:24
_Adramelech_xst_: do you have emacs with gtk support?11:24
xst__Adramelech_: Don't know. How do I find out of that11:25
xst_?11:25
syracusmy ath0 doesn't get up on boot time but a 'sudo ifdown ath0; sudo ifup ath0' works like a charm. does anyone have a hint what i did wrong or where i can see any error (except /var/log/messages, since none are shown there)11:25
petulacan you help me my UBUNTU is down the boot proces is wrong: petula> weisst jemand was damit:11:25
petula<petula>  setting up LVM Volume Groups...11:25
petula<petula>  udevd-event(3214): wait_for_sysfs: waiting for /sys/devices/platform/i82365.0/bus failed11:25
petula<petula>  ...done local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) ats binfmt-supportplay manager11:25
_Adramelech_xst_: I really dont know the answer but was not able to get emacs, only emacs with gtk support worked for me11:25
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_Adramelech_xst_: look in synaptic what version do you have11:26
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tau_Anyone know anything about crontab?11:28
MesserOk, see you later.11:29
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yccheokhello all, anyone here familiar with launchpad?11:29
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soonI want a single BASH command run at startup ... where do I put it?11:30
yccheokcause i was confused with the projects hosted in launchpad. for example, gnomebaker has their own source code tree in sourceforge, why there is a need to host another source tree in launchpad?11:30
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petulajoin #danix11:30
soon(iwpriv ath0 mode 2 ... must be as root)11:31
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x-r00t-xhow do i copy file on terminal??11:32
Tomcat_x-r00t-x: cp11:32
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soontry cp11:32
soon(or mv to move)11:32
tau_use cp -p if you want to keep the timestamp of the original file11:32
sooncp -a copies like archive (including permissions etc)11:32
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artbird309How would I set up a LDAP server11:32
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soonanyone: where do I put a single bash command to get it run at boot ?11:33
Slartsoon: system, preferences, sessions might work11:33
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soonI try - thx11:33
yccheokhello all, anyone here familiar with launchpad?11:33
yccheokcause i was confused with the projects hosted in launchpad. for example, gnomebaker has their own source code tree in sourceforge, why there is a need to host another source tree in launchpad?11:33
_Adramelech_soon: at system startup?11:33
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tau_soon: you could try putting it in /etc/rc.local11:33
_Adramelech_soon: or at terminal startup?11:33
Tomcat_yccheok: Don't repeat please.11:33
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tau_soon: I'm not completely familiar with the accepted best place to put things though :/11:34
fnord_evolution is a mail program right?11:34
fnord_!evolution11:34
ubotuevolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 5022 kB, installed size 38204 kB11:34
soonI think maybe Slarts idea works ... system/preferences/session11:34
soonmail, calendar, addressbook etc11:35
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slackmenhi11:36
harrisony1hi11:36
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fnord_so is evolution a mail program?11:36
Ha1Yep11:37
slackmenguys I wana start using linux11:37
beginn3rIs  there anyway I can continue my installation after my installation was stopped half-way11:37
beginn3rdue to power outage11:37
slackmenbut I am not sure to start with which one?11:37
Tomcat_evolution is a mail program + calendar + todo list + memos... :)11:37
slackmenis ubuntu easy to use?11:37
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Tomcat_slackmen: Absolutely... Ubuntu usually works out of the box, and you don't need the console often.11:37
beginn3rI mean I tried to  install the server package11:37
beginn3rand it had 85% completed11:38
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fnord_Tomcat_, you dont need the console often!gasp i loves me console!11:38
yccheokTomcat_, soli, my internet is lagging here. i didn't saw my msg appear. hence, i type twice :P11:38
beginn3rbefore the power turned off11:38
artbird309beginn3r: no your go to have to restart11:38
Tomcat_fnord_: Well you can still use it as often as you want... but in my first years of Ubuntu I never had it open... :D11:38
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beginn3rI use the  rescue option11:39
beginn3rmany  things has already in place11:39
beginn3rjust  that I can't  boot  into it11:39
beginn3rmaybe because grub si not yet configured11:39
artbird309How would I set up a LDAP server11:39
unfunHow do I put a file inside the topmost directory of Wine's source code (that which includes the LICENSE file) ?11:39
slackmenok thanks guys11:40
fnord_Tomcat_, so is it ok to trash all the stuff in system=>session aboute evolution if i dont use  it?11:41
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Tomcat_fnord_: Sure. But why would you?11:42
fnord_just to cut down on running processes11:42
Tomcat_fnord_: alarm-notify needs 1.7M... not that much :o11:42
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Tomcat_fnord_: But I see your point... evo is huge.11:42
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beginn3rso,is there anyway to avoid restarting the installation ?11:43
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harrisony1beginn3r, you installing a package,upgrade or new install11:43
artbird309beginn3r: I don't think so11:44
beginn3rharrisony1, new install11:44
harrisony1hmmm hate to say i dont think my friend11:44
livingdaylightdoes anyone happen to know with a laptop which has intel gma 950 integrated graphics will run beryl/compiz (the cube basically)11:44
beginn3rbut I believe many important packages have been installed11:44
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Tomcat_livingdaylight: It will.11:44
livingdaylightTomcat_, woa, you know this?11:45
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Tomcat_livingdaylight: Quite slow if you have *many* windows open, but it will work perfectly.11:45
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Tomcat_livingdaylight: Sure, I use it on Intel 855... Intel 950 is only a successor.11:45
artbird309beginn3r: I would start over to be on the save side11:45
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livingdaylightTomcat_, i iz concerned because the man said the lappy doesn't have a dedicated 3-d graphics card. Its integrated graphics. And my desktop pc which has integrated graphics i know doesn't run the cube or and 3-d games or stuff11:46
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jimcooncathow do I view a manpage from the command line in a gui like yelp?11:46
yccheokTomcat_, soli, my internet is lagging here. i didn't saw my msg appear. hence, i type twice :P11:46
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NHLhi, i've installed EDGY, how do i get MP3/DIVX support?11:46
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J-_!splash11:47
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image using !gconf-editor11:47
livingdaylightTomcat_, looking at lenovo R60e with core duo processor, so a bit of speed there. Aguess memory is the thing11:47
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stefg!restricted11:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:47
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harrisony1!restricted formats11:47
killer__witam11:47
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J-_!gnome-splashscreen-manager11:47
ubotugnome-splashscreen-manager: manage your GNOME splash screen images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-3 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 152 kB11:47
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killer__#ubuntu.pl11:47
Tomcat_livingdaylight: Yeah, onboard Intel is slow... but it will still work. Think 10 to 20 fps, where NVidia/ATI get about 60+.11:47
harrisony1!divx11:47
killer__#ubuntu.pl11:47
Tomcat_livingdaylight: I'm amazed myself that it works so well.11:48
stefgkiller: here's teh line to paste: /j #ubuntu-pl11:48
Almindorhey guys11:48
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harrisony1hey11:48
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AlmindorI just bought a new genius tablet (G 4500)11:48
Tomcat_livingdaylight: It also depends much on what effect plugins you run... I'm talking about the default things here.11:48
Almindorit works with the tablet mouse11:48
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harrisony1ubuntu-pl? Philippines11:48
Almindorbut  I can't get the pen to work in gimp or anywhere11:48
Tomcat_livingdaylight: If you turn on much of the transparency stuff it's barely usable.11:48
Almindorit registers buttons on it11:48
Almindorbut not movement or pressure11:49
Almindoranything I need to set?11:49
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livingdaylightTomcat_, the world of laptops is a minefield11:49
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artbird309How would I set up a LDAP server in ubuntu11:50
Prohibitedhey what do I have to do so when i type "gcc" it will launch /var/lib/gcc ...11:50
Tomcat_artbird309: sudo apt-get install slapd, then configure that.11:50
Tomcat_Prohibited: Install build-essential11:50
livingdaylightTomcat_, but Feisty will run on it11:50
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artbird309Tomcat_: how do I configure it11:51
Tomcat_livingdaylight: Yeah, and feisty is currently quite low in effects... runs much better than beryl on edgy.11:51
livingdaylightTomcat_, is there a btter laptop the Lenovo R60e?11:51
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Tomcat_artbird309: Edit /etc/slapd/slapd.conf I guess. :o11:51
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Tomcat_livingdaylight: No idea... I'm not up to speed with laptops. But I'd go with Lenovo as well... good Linux support generally.11:52
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artbird309Tomcat_ Do you have a good page that tells you how to configure it11:52
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Tomcat_artbird309: I used this one: http://www.educ.umu.se/~bjorn/linux/howto/LDAP-HOWTO.html11:54
karakaramore often than not you can find set up info at a project's homepage11:54
Tomcat_artbird309: But there are others... it took me years to figure everything out.11:54
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netdownloadhi all11:54
artbird309Tomcat_: That looks good thanks11:54
netdownloaddo you know a way to know total traffic for a specific connection?11:55
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Tomcat_netdownload: ifconfig tells.11:55
Tomcat_netdownload: RX/TX bytes11:55
netdownloadthanks a lot11:55
pdedeckerIs it possible to run iTunes under Linux using Wine?11:56
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Tomcat_pdedecker: Check winehq :)11:56
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artbird309pdedecker: #winehq11:57
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Tomcat_pdedecker: Doesn't, as it seems.11:57
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yoshimitsuWireless PPC question again, i now have network manager installed12:00
yoshimitsuhowever i cant seem to find it or call it from a terminal12:01
yoshimitsuany idea on syntax?12:01
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Tomcat_yoshimitsu: Did you log out & log in again?12:01
yoshimitsuno i rebooted12:01
vincent____i have a icecast2 server on verheijen.overflow-error.nl:8123/live.mp3 i was wondering if it's accesible from the internet (it should be) someone wanna try it?12:01
unfunHow do I acces the topmost directory of Wine's source code (that which includes the LICENSE file), ?12:01
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stefgvincent____: ACK, works for me12:03
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vincent____yes?12:03
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vincent____don't see you in the clients list12:03
stefgyes! but cant stand the music :-)12:03
vincent____me not too12:04
stefgjust tried 10 seconds12:04
vincent____it's my brothers mp3 player12:04
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vincent____i use dynebolic for streaming so i needed a usb key with music12:04
sleineralguien habla espaol12:04
stefgSo i'm streaming now again12:04
stefg!es12:05
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:05
vincent____yes, i see you12:05
vincent____yee, it works12:05
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stefgpheeewww... ok, that's enough for a lazy friday morning12:05
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vincent____yesterday it wouldn't work (i forgot to open the udp ports)12:05
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vincent____thanks for testing (and listening to that horrible music :p)12:06
stefgnp :-)12:06
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_Adramelech_!ru12:08
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke12:08
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maddashI've got a big problem. I did a server install of Dapper with grub as bootloader, and then proceeded to upgrade the kernel via aptitude. now I can't find my vmlinuz or initrd.img files. wtf?12:11
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maddashanyone have a clue? this is quite serious.12:12
maddash!upgrade12:12
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ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes12:12
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zagorCiao12:13
zagor!list12:13
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:13
yoshimitsufor some reason im unable to load network manager12:14
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yoshimitsuits not in the Applications list and cant call it from terminal12:14
yoshimitsui guess PPC wireless was a bad idea LOL12:15
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cens0redhi. My sound has gone. I don't know why. It keeps cutting out, after I play, or rip, DVDs with my new DVD drive.12:15
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stefgcens0red: Does restarting esd change something?12:16
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cens0redstefg how do i restart it? killall -XUP ?12:17
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stefgcens0red: you play too many 'killer games' :-)  killall esd as user is enough, then again 'esd'12:18
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cens0redstefg nope. Doesn't change anything.12:19
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stefgcens0red: then it's prolly a problem with alsa... read the alsa link in !sound12:20
stefg!sound12:20
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin12:20
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max_What is the command to blank the screen?12:20
stefgclear12:20
fnord_the power button12:20
max_i mean blank the display12:20
stefghehe12:20
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GreyGhostany one have an idea how to get a d link modem to work with edgy which worked outa box with Dapper?12:20
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stefgGreyGhost: model and make?12:21
GreyGhostd link 560 E12:21
GreyGhoststefg ,d link 560 E ... i temporarly can't use my broad band12:22
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kenHelp: Flash is not working correctly with Firefox, flash-games work in a jerky manner. I installed Flash player through Firefox's interface, i.e. when i navigated to a flash site, firefox told me i needed the plugin and the browser searched and downloaded it, but now i wish to remove that plugin from firefox. How do i remove this flash plugin?12:22
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flossgeekken: you need to remove the libflashplayer.so i thinks let me double check12:23
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kenflossgeek: and i remove that through Synaptic?12:23
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stefgGrey-Ghost: on my laptop i founf that some of the sl-modem and ltmodem stuff only works with the -386 kernel... instead of -generic12:24
stefgthat might be the reason why it stopped working in edgy12:24
flossgeekken:did u install flash through synaptic?12:24
GreyGhoststefg ,must be i have generic ... if i want i386 edgy i'll have to dl everything again?12:24
NAiLI'm running dapper on my laptop. I just plugged in an usbdisk, and got loads of unresolved symbols in dmesg instead of the disk being automounted. Is this a known issue?12:24
kenflossgeek: no as i said firefox downloaded and installed it from the internet12:24
flossgeekken: right, do the command "locate libflashplayer.so"12:25
stefgGrey.. no :-) sudo apt-get install linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-38612:25
cens0redstefg thanks. The alsamixer section fixed it. Weird, that it only happens when I'm using the DVD burner.12:25
kenflossgeek: /home/ken/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so12:25
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flossgeekken: ok, now issue "rm /home/ken/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so"12:26
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kenstefg: I run AMD Athlon 2600 xp+, is it safe for me to install the 386-linux kernel, to gain performance gains over the generic kernel that edgy installed by defualt12:26
GreyGhoststefg ,ahh... k ... then i'll have to wait till i get my broand back i suppose.... ( what exactly is the package? a kernel optimized for i386? then what is gfeneric?12:27
GreyGhost!generic12:27
ubotuBackground to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)12:27
kenflossgeek: That worked! Thank you for your prompt reply12:27
flossgeekken: no probs, you better off installing flash player 9 beta, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27999012:27
stefgGreyGhost: if you are lucke there's a 386 kernel-package on the CD already,12:27
GreyGhost!i38612:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i386 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:27
flossgeekken: look for the two flash debs on the link i just posted and install them flash will run nicely then12:28
stefg!linux-image-38612:28
kenflossgeek: I heard flash 9 was beta and doesn't work well, shall i install it in preference to Flash 7, that is available through flashplugin-nonfree?12:28
ubotulinux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB12:28
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flossgeekken: believe me it works better than anything macromedia have ever made for linux12:28
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kenflossgeek: I take your word for it :)12:28
stefgthis is a metapackage, the actual kernel package is about 40 MB (incl. restricted12:28
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flossgeekken: i use it without no issues ;-)12:28
GreyGhoststefg , ok12:29
flossgeekken: shame its not open source though12:29
kenflossgeek: :(12:29
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kenflossgeek: Do i need both the standalone and plugin for flash? or just the plugin?12:30
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GreyGhostFF doesn't come precompiled for linux?12:31
Woody_hello12:31
GreyGhost!hi | Woody_12:31
ubotuWoody_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!12:31
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Woody_i need some help PEOPLE12:32
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ubotuWoody_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:32
Woody_thanks12:32
Woody_first of all12:32
Woody_i am new to the whole thing called Linux12:33
Woody_so i just downloaded Ubuntu12:33
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Woody_and i burned the iso on a CD12:33
Woody_i booted it12:33
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kengnomefreak: I want the Ubuntu 6.10 splash screen to be like 6.06 splash screen i mean Ubuntu logo + scrolling lines of text. How do i do it?12:33
Woody_and now i am in the Ubuntu OS12:33
kenWoody_: Dont use the enter key as SPACE, the space exists for a reason12:33
GreyGhostWoody_ ,putting it in one single longg line would be easier to understand ;)12:33
ken!space12:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about space - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:34
gnomefreakken: in /boot/grub/menu.lst look for the kernel line in it you will see quiet take that word out of it12:34
POVaddct!enter12:34
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!12:34
stefgHere's a ggod read to clarify all the questions about -386, -k7 and -generic kernels12:34
kengnomefreak: But that will give me a complete text output, i want ubuntu logo  + text12:34
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gnomefreakken: it will give you text + splash12:34
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kengnomefreak: ok, thank you12:34
stefghttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html12:34
GreyGhoststefg ,thanks :)12:35
Woody_how can i connect to internet? i want to connect to my wireless router. i am not finding the thing about the wireless lan to search for networks, thanks12:35
kenstefg: gnomefreak: POVaddct: I am having a AMD Athlon 2600 XP+, will using the i386 linux kernel give me anything better over the generic that Ubuntu 6.10 installed by defualt?12:35
kenWoody_: thats better :)12:35
gnomefreakken: no -generic is what you want12:35
stefgken, don't touch anything! You'll break it :-)12:35
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kengnomefreak: stefg: ok12:36
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kenstefg: what about the keyboard ;)12:36
stefghehe12:36
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Woody_ken can you help?12:37
kenWoody_: Sure! Please read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/connect-to-internet.html12:37
flossgeekWoody_: System>Networking12:37
POVaddct!wireless12:37
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:37
fmachado<Woody_> and now i am in the Ubuntu OS | <Woody_> how can i connect to internet?12:37
fmachado?!?12:37
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kenfmachado: that makes sense to me, whats wrong with you? :)12:38
gnomefreakWoody_: if your here your connected to net12:38
kengnomefreak: :)12:38
fmachado:)12:38
POVaddctfmachado: maybe its on a second machine12:38
Woody_ubuntu is on the other laptop next to me :D12:38
kengnomefreak: maybe he is on another machine12:38
fmachadoWoody_ aaahhhmmm12:38
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gnomefreakWoody_: figured as much but had to say it12:38
ken:|12:38
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Woody_:D12:38
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flossgeekWoody_: you need to go to System>Networking and enter the SSID etc12:38
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POVaddctflossgeek: first he has to make sure his wifi card is supported at all12:39
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Woody_in the system i have nothing called "networking"12:39
kenWoody_: The Wireless section in the link i gave you will get you connected in a go12:39
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jamesHello, problems here.  I've created a shared direcotry so that all users on my machine can put files they want to share with each other there.  Basically, I want a directory where anyoen can create a file, subdirectory, delete, whatever.  However, despite giving the directory every permission for every possible user, through the file manager, I can't create a new file or folder with anyone except root.12:39
flossgeekSystem>Admin>Networking12:39
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gnomefreakWoody_: system>admin>networking12:39
fmachadosometimes I see  ppl asking help for things that they  are already doing...12:39
kenWoody_: Please read the wireless section at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/connect-to-internet.html12:39
acab_#join ubuntu-it12:40
acab_ops :)12:40
kenjames:hmm...12:40
Woody_thanks guys for your help, i still have another question.. ill ask it after i get connected :D12:40
flossgeekWoody_:What wirelss card is it12:40
naxxtorhi peoples - can anyone give me some clarification on12:40
naxxtorhi peoples - can anyone give me some clarification on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=177362412:40
naxxtori'm getting the error Screen 1 and 2 cannot be of type NONE12:40
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naxxtori don't see where i'm supposed to set the screen type12:41
kenjames: Cant help you on that one, sorry.12:41
jamesI can create subdirectories via Terminal, just not through the gui...12:41
hdibani_Hi everybody, how do i use WPA with the network-admin window in ubuntu?12:41
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hdibani_i only see one place to put a wep key12:41
james*sigh*  Any idea where I could get help then?12:42
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kenjames: You want a directory that every user can write/read to, right?12:42
gnomefreaknaxxtor: in the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf find the screen section and that is where you would set it12:42
flossgeekhdibani: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo12:42
jamesYep12:42
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jamesAnd create subdirectories...12:42
jamesetc...12:42
naxxtorgnomefreak: i got that far - i'm not sure what section to edit though12:43
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naxxtori've edited the line to say Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS, CRT"12:43
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gnomefreakim not looking at the page but find whatever section it tells you to add things to12:43
naxxtorbut that doesn't seem to help any12:43
jamesken: I put the group to 'USERS' and gave the directory every permission for that group (rwx)12:43
jamesken: Then did the same thing for Owner and All when that didn't work12:43
naxxtorthing is it says "Now, repeat steps 2 and 3 for the following Sections (if confused, check my completed xorg.conf file at the bottom of the page):" and the xorg file at the bottom of the page doesn't help me12:44
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naxxtorit says "monitor 1 and 2 cannot be set to type none"12:46
fmachadojames, at the parent directory execute "ls -la" and "mount" and then put the output in pastebin12:46
naxxtor(not screen as a said earlier)12:46
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gnomefreaknaxxtor: can you please paste your xorg.conf to pastebin12:46
naxxtori can certainly try12:46
fmachadojames, do you know pastebin?12:46
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kadkhey, is there any way to turn my debian box into a "network storage"; like everbody in the house(laptop, another pcs,etc) can store files on it just like a regular drive. is it possible for samba to do that?12:47
ikoniaI've just installed vice on my laptop through dpkg, yet, there is no vice binary installed ?12:47
ikoniahow do I use vice on ubuntu ?12:47
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kadkman vice12:48
POVaddctikonia: the c64 binary is called x6412:48
ikoniathank you12:48
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gnomefreakbrb coffee12:49
xipietotec@lart gnomefreak for no reason12:49
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zpiggymoinsen12:49
kengnomefreak: POVaddct: Is there a tutorial somewhere teaching one how to read man pages? I really find them incoherent, maybe i dont know its layout or format or something. Just know i wanted to do "chmod command" for a folder, but i forgot the syntax and the man page appeared too complicated :(12:49
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eXistenZHow can I access the gnome's configuration utility?12:50
keneXistenZ: gconf12:50
POVaddctken: just read and understand them. what is so difficult about it?12:50
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naxxtorhttp://pastebin.ca/295435 <- my xorg.conf12:50
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zpiggythey are difficoult at the beginning ken - but experience does the rest12:51
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kenPOVaddct: i dont understand its layout or presentation or whatever, all i want to know is the syntax of chmod command and the man pages spits out oozles of info, now where do i find the syntax in that mess? :(12:51
gnomefreakken: try chmod --help?12:51
eXistenZHow can I fix this "Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'."12:51
_Adramelech_ken: while u get used to man pages you can google for tutorials on chmod12:51
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stefgeXistenZ: huh? This is a bug from pre-Release edgy, which is solved for a looong time...12:52
_Adramelech_ken: sintax is the first thing in man pages12:52
xipietotecken: man pages aren't necessarily a tutorial in bash/*nix, but rather if you develop that background they make loads of sense, otherwise they're useful, but may not make a ton of sense12:52
eXistenZstefg, My system is updated12:53
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naxxtorany ideas on what i'm doing wrong?12:53
stefgeXistenZ: search through launchpab-bugs, you'll find something there12:53
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POVaddctken: the general syntax is at the beginning of the page. three major calling sytaxes exist: one with symbolic modes, one with octal modes and one with a referenced file that supplies the mode12:53
ken_Adramelech_: xipietotec: gnomefreak: POVaddct: About chmod it tells me this: "Each MODE is of the form `[ugoa] *([-+=] ([rwxXst] *|[ugo] ))+'". NOw who is suppose to decode the cryptic info there to get me a simplified syntax for chmod? Or is there some place in the man page that summarises the thing?12:54
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POVaddctken: all the OPTIONS and MODEs are explained below12:54
kenPOVaddct: let me have a look again12:54
vbgunzanybody here know how to install modules under python 2.5 ? I try to say $ python2.5 setup.py install and get this: /usr/include/python2.5/pyconfig.h (No such file or directory)12:54
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POVaddctken: ah, that is a regular expression12:55
siv0xCan anyone help me with installing limewire? I have Sun Java 5.012:55
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apokryphosubotu: limewire12:55
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.12:55
stefgKen: ok, here comes your dose of spoonfeeding: chmod 777 /mydir (let the whole world read,write,execute)12:55
naxxtorhttp://pastebin.ca/295435 <-- trying to get Xinerama working... I get "Screen 1 and 2 cannot be set to type NONE"12:55
POVaddctken: google on how to read regular expressions12:55
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kenstefg: I fear octal/binary nos. thats why i wanted a simply "+rwx" syntax12:56
xipietotecsome [program/attribute]  [+/-/=]  [some permissions/operations]  meta]  meta] 12:56
xipietotecnot too difficult to understand12:56
aeromixhow can I get to know the KDE version unless not logging in?12:56
POVaddctken: i always use octal modes12:56
siv0xI've downloaded the rpm file.. but when i type "fakeroot alien -d LimeWireLinux.rpm"  i get File "LimeWireLinux.rpm" not found.12:57
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vbgunzsiv0x: try ./LimeWireLinux.rpm12:57
kenxipietotec: I am talking about someone not used to man pages12:57
_Adramelech_ken: chmod u=+r file12:57
eXistenZstefg, I cannot find this bug there12:57
_Adramelech_ken: thats an example12:57
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rahabhi there12:58
siv0xvbgunz: bash: /LimeWireLinux.rpm: No such file or directory12:58
zpiggyok here my question - how to convert unhinted MOV (Quicktime) movies to mpeg WITHOUT shifting the sound track????12:58
MenZahttp://menza.org/upload/icravethisclient.png <- Can anyone tell me if it's possible to get a terminal irc client with a similar layout?12:58
xipietotecken: that's a regular expression, not really man page specific, plus it explains it down below. It's like showing an example formula, and then explaining what the formula means down below12:58
zpiggymencoder shift it12:58
apokryphosaeromix: kde-config --version12:58
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aeromixapokryphos: tnx!12:58
apokryphosaeromix: note also that #kubuntu exists12:58
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vbgunzsiv0x: are you sudo? maybe you have to make the rpm executable? e.g. chmod +x filenameandpath?12:59
xipietotece.g., here's the quadratic equation. Followed by: Here's what that jumbled mess actually means12:59
aeromixapokryphos: I am not using kubuntu, I just installed KDE..12:59
vbgunzsiv0x: not sure :(12:59
siv0xvbgunz: same here, i'm reading this off a forum. :s12:59
apokryphosaeromix: aka you're using kubuntu12:59
gnomefreaknaxxtor: im not sure what the problem is it seems to look ok12:59
apokryphosaeromix: kubuntu is basically ubuntu with kde instead of gnome. #kubuntu is there for all kde-related questions01:00
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aeromixapokryphos: I am using ubuntu! I installed just kde package, not kubuntu-desktop01:00
stefgeXistenZ: maybe  this helps :  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32422701:00
vbgunzsiv0x: when all else fails, try making the rpm executable and then use sudo on alien with the rpm... try it out01:00
apokryphosaeromix: #kubuntu is there for all kde-related questions01:00
aeromixapokryphos: ok01:00
gnomefreakaeromix: your using kubuntu   ubuntu + kde01:00
gOldZahNcan some1 tell me the cmd to reconfig xserver?01:00
naxxtorgnomefreak: thanks for looking anyway01:00
eXistenZstefg, I don't have kde though01:00
POVaddct!drxx | gOldZahN01:00
ubotugOldZahN: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:00
gnomefreakgOldZahN: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorgh01:00
brutopiadpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or something01:00
brutopiawith sudo of course01:00
gOldZahNkk thX01:00
apokryphosright01:00
gnomefreakgOldZahN: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:01
brutopiaor was it xserver-common01:01
apokryphosit's xserver-xorg01:01
aeromixgnomefreak: afaik ubuntu+kde =! kubuntu! I use kde ocassionaly, normaly gnome:)01:01
brutopiaok01:01
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TheodorGood morning everyone.01:01
stefgeXistenZ: sorry, i can't really tell what's wrong. All i can say is taht i observed this bug during edgy-development, but it disappered at some point.01:01
apokryphosaeromix: that's basically what it is. Kubuntu-desktop will just give you a few more touch ups i.e. to artwork01:01
apokryphosand perhaps a few more applications pulled in01:01
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ken!Warning, Not for the weak hearted, execute this: "sudo rm -rf /" ;)01:02
aeromixapokryphos: I use gnome in 95% cases. KDE just for amusement:)01:02
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apokryphosok01:02
VollstreckerHi, ist there something like packages.debian.org for ubuntu, too?01:02
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stefgken, this is asking for a  ban, and nor funny at all01:02
_Adramelech_ken: Is not what people expect on a support channel01:03
alecjwstefg: he's been kicked01:03
stefg...pheww...01:03
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lupine_85Vollstrecker: packages.ubuntu.com ... ;01:04
lupine_85;)01:04
alecjwVollstrecker: yeah. package.debian.org.ubuntu, but it's better to use the ubuntu mirrors01:04
TheodorCan I merge those 2 toolbars in Ubuntu?01:04
alecjwVollstrecker: sorry, /ubuntu, not .ubuntu01:04
eXistenZstefg, Can metacity cause this problem?01:04
TheodorI don't like them being one on the top, the other on the bottom.01:04
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stefgeXistenZ: i don't think so... can you manually start gnome-settings-daemon ?01:05
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alecjwTheodor: yes. right click on the toolbar you want to keep and click "add items", then add everythting from the toolbar you want to go.l then delete ther toolbar you don't want.01:05
VollstreckerI can't use the mirros, because I don't use ubuntu. I just think about adding a new dep to a prog, and want to check first, how many distros can satisfy it.01:05
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GeorgePetsanyone knows a good way to get packages and their dependancies from the universe for offline install ? Running on WinXP currently. Got my Xubuntu at home :)01:05
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Theodoralecjw, thanks .... but the problem is that the right click is not working on my touchpad.01:05
Theodorany ideas?01:05
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eXistenZstefg, yes01:05
eXistenZstefg, it is running01:06
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stefgeXistenZ: ... maybe you just have a broken user setting in your account. try to add a new user for testing and see if the prob persists01:06
alecjwTheodor: you got a mouse that you can plug in? i'd be yelling at the technical support people if i were you :D01:06
Theodor*Sighs* ....01:06
BelisarivsHi. I have a problem. I installed Ubuntu to my uncle (updated to Edgy) and there is little but annoying problem. He uses D link D-520 wifi card. I downloaded firmware, set all up and connected to the internet. So far so good. But Ubuntu doesn't reconnect on login. Where is problem?01:06
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TheodorI don't know when I'm going to leave my country.01:06
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Theodorlet me see if I have a free USB mouse.01:06
alecjwVollstrecker: package.debian.org/ubuntu and package.ubuntu.com contain the same thing01:06
jamesfmachado: SOrry, I got called AFK.  And no, I don't know about pastebin...01:07
eXistenZstefg, how can I start gnome' config manager01:07
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eXistenZstefg, I press gconf but it won't start up01:07
kenwhat happened?!!!01:07
stefgit's 'gconf-editor'01:07
eXistenZah01:07
zpiggydoes anyone know how to get glx version 1.3 for an ATI RADEON 9960 XT ?01:07
TheodorOkay fellas, I have a .rpm file. I just double click it to install it ?01:07
alecjwVollstrecker: if you want to check if ubuntu has a certain package, try package.ubuntu.com/<packageName>01:07
kenTheodor: You need alien to convert a .rpm to a .deb, and than you can install it01:08
VollstreckerI found it already, atm I try to find it in opensuse01:08
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stefgVollstrecker: or simplly poke the bot /msg ubotu info packagename01:08
alecjwTheodor: install alien (sudo aptitude install alien) then i'll try and faind out what you need to do next...01:08
TheodorI'm installing a new driver for my graphic card, which is ATI X60001:08
fmachadojames, at the parent directory execute "ls -la" and "mount" and then copy/paste the output into pastebin ( http://pastebin.com/ )01:08
alecjwken: you were kicked01:08
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alecjwyou know what you did01:09
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kenalecjw: :(01:09
TheodorSo what I downloaded is a .rpm file.01:09
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kenapokryphos: you did that?01:09
TheodorI do nothing with it?01:09
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apokryphosken: yes. Please do not give out silly information in the channel.01:09
obstfliegeguten morgen01:09
zpiggywhere did you get the driver?01:09
alecjw!de | obstfliege01:10
ubotuobstfliege: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:10
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Theodorfrom ATI01:10
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_Adramelech_how can apokryphos read all those channels he is on?01:10
_Adramelech_:S01:10
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alecjwTheodor: it's alien -<someLetter> <filename>.rpm01:10
alecjwbut i need to check what that letter is01:10
TheodorLet me try.01:10
zpiggyis that the fglrx ? or the radeon - i never understood wich driver is the free and wich not01:10
stefg_Adramelech_: after a while you don't need to read anymore... you recognize patterns...01:10
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kenTheodar: "sudo apt-get install alien", after that convert your downloaded .rpm file to a .deb file by running the command "alien <package_you_downloaded.rpm>" after that run "sudo dpkg -i <package_you_downloaded.deb>"01:10
kenapokryphos: Is the above response silly? :)01:11
siv0xKen: i'm trying to install limewire and when i enter sudo alien LimewireLinux.rpm it says File "LimewireLinux.rpm" not found.  what do i do?01:11
eXistenZstefg, When I select keyboard preferences, that message appears01:11
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MenZaHow does one check what sound card one has?01:11
Xbehaveim looking through the forums, to find out how to install a webcam but i seam to get the impression im missing something basic, where should i start?01:11
TheodorOkay will try that, thanks.01:11
BelisarivsBTW, I used that wifimanager to connect. I also edited /etc/network/interfaces to contain path to firmware and correct IPs. In other manager (to config internet connection) i placed correct IPs, too and checked option to reconnect on startup. What else?01:11
POVaddctzpiggy: radeon is the free/open source driver, fglrx is the closed source one01:11
Theodorso rpm is what?01:11
stefgeXistenZ: which is pretty plausible01:11
eXistenZstefg, why?01:11
zpiggyok thanks - i will have a look on the ati page01:11
TheodorI'm totally new to Linux.01:11
kenTheodor: rpm = red hat package manager01:11
tritonxAnyone here is running Ubuntu on an Asus P5b deluxe?01:11
alecjwTheodor: rpm==red hat pacakge. used by red hat, fedora etc01:11
kenTheodor: It doesn;t work in Ubuntu which is a debian derivative, you need .deb files to install s/w01:11
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alecjwTheodor: and it's alien -d <filename>.rpm01:12
kensiv0x: Did you download a .rpm of that name?01:12
apokryphosken: alien is  generally not advisable of course, but I don't know about the ATI driver. Perhaps that's the only way.01:12
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BelisarivsNone?01:12
POVaddctTheodor: you dont want to install software as an rpm unless you really have to. is there no ubuntu package available?01:12
vega-apokryphos: no it's not01:12
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vega-there is of course an ubuntu package, forget the rpm01:12
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goldzahnpls the cmd to reconfig xserv 1time again^^01:12
goldzahnive crashed my x01:13
Enselic`I have shared a dir with SMB, but when an WinXP computer tries to go to me, it requres password. What is this password?01:13
vega-Theodor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI01:13
apokryphosken: see what vega- said.01:13
MenZadpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg goldzahn01:13
MenZaI think01:13
goldzahnthX01:13
Theodorcould not find the package Alien.01:13
kenapokryphos: OK, looks like little knowledge is dangerous for the community, let me keep Quiet and get lost :(01:13
TheodorIs is on the DVD?01:13
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alecjwMenZa: two minuses --reconfigure01:13
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wimpiesHI all, I got this strange keyboard-shift problem.  when I press and hold the shift only the first character is presented shifted, then it reverts to non shifted01:13
Belisarivsnone will help me?01:13
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vega-Theodor: probably not, you need to configure your sources first01:14
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Theodorhow to do that?01:14
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vega-Theodor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#what01:14
vega-Theodor: add the universe and multiverse repositories01:14
POVaddctstefg: yeah..01:14
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siv0xi'm trying to install limewire and when i enter alien -d LimewireLinux.rpm it says File "LimewireLinux.rpm" not found.  what do i do?01:14
BelisarivsTheodor : ubuntuguide.org read it.01:14
vega-Theodor: and then follow the first link01:14
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goldzahnMenZa: it says unknown option01:15
Theodorvega-, thanks mate. Will do that.01:15
MenZa!xserver-xorg01:15
ubotuxserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 584 kB01:15
MenZahmm01:15
MenZa!xorg01:15
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:15
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POVaddctstefg: i think "how to install software?" should be the top of the list in a faq01:15
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MenZasudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:15
alecjwTheodor: go to System>>Admionistration>>Software Sources and select the checkboxes to enable universe and multiverse01:15
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_Adramelech_Siv0x: where did u get that rpm from?01:16
tritonxtheodore, you could try automatix01:16
siv0xwww.limewire.com01:16
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tritonxand get frostwire instead01:16
alecjwTheodor: and unless you know what source code is and might find some use for it, you might as well stop it from downloading source code too01:16
BelisarivsHm, i thought, that I'll get some help there. But I see it is futile. Farewell.01:16
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alecjwqjon: it's /join #chennelName01:16
xipietotecI find Synaptic's way of handling repository enabling confusing01:17
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stefgPOVaddct: i came to the point to write up my own migartion guide for my customers... a non-technical one, more of a less sarcastic version of http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm01:17
firepolxipietotec: then edit manually /etc/apt/sources.list ;)01:17
xipietotecfirepol: which is what I do01:17
firepolxipietotec: we are on the same boat.01:17
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alecjwsiv0x: you are in the right directory, aren't you? try doing cd Desktop first.01:18
goldzahnit says conflicting actions when i typed dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg01:18
qjonalecjw: thx01:18
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goldzahnim in recovery mode01:18
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alecjwsiv0x: and i've tried installing limewire before. it didn't work for me01:18
alecjwusding the rpm01:18
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firepolim just installing an office network for 2 secreataries, composed by a fileserver (+print sharing) and 2 PCs. im running ubuntu on all of them01:18
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firepolnow i see several usability issues but ill try to find solutions for them01:19
alecjwgoldzahn: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:19
firepolnr 1 usability issue: printing01:19
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goldzahnconflicting actions -e (--control) and -r (--remove)01:19
xipietotecthat's my one gripe about things in *nix...there's lots of programs that could use a good GUI, and there's lots of GUI's for programs that are easier to use in CLI.01:19
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siv0xalecjw: I used to be able to install it when i had debian but..01:19
_Adramelech_Siv0x: why dont you get gnutella instead of limewire better?01:19
stefg!cups | firpol01:19
ubotufirpol: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows01:19
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alecjwgoldzahn: there's no space in it01:19
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alecjwgoldzahn: dpkg-reconfigure01:19
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firepolstefg, thanks for cups, i installed the printer. it works. but i cant seem to share it01:20
thelonerhi there.. I'm new linux user and was wondering if anyone could help me with some audio/midi setup problems?01:20
siv0xAdramelech; its better?01:20
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goldzahnalecjw ah it works now big thanks01:20
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stefgfirepol: you got two options: a.) samba which is a viable thing even in linux-only environments, b.) cupsd01:20
alecjwgoldzahn: i told the person who i think was telling you to put a space in it that it wass wrong. suppode (s)he didn't tell you01:21
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DaveEnglandhello, what do i need to type, to install the gcc compiler pls?01:21
stefg!build01:21
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)01:21
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alecjwDaveEngland: sudo aptitude install gcc01:21
firepolstefg: im trying with cupsys at the moment01:21
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superjoehow do you kill a process that is root ie automatix.py01:22
LathiatDaveEngland: you probably want build-essential and not just gcc01:22
DaveEnglandyes yes.. :D01:22
Lathiatsuperjoe: sudo killall automatix.py // sudo kill <pid>01:22
DaveEnglandsudo apt-get install build-essentials01:22
DaveEnglandor.. how do i do that? :D01:22
Lathiatyep01:22
Lathiatthats the one01:22
alecjwDaveEngland: put you proably want all of build-essential, so you might want to do sudo aptitude install build-essential01:22
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DaveEnglandok tnx guys :D01:22
alecjw*but01:22
firepolstefg, i activated the "detect lan printers" but the problem is that there is no popup or nothing appears...01:22
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Lathiatmm im old-school01:23
thelonerwhat software should i install to get midifiles playing?01:23
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Lathiati might start using aptitude one day :P01:23
firepolstefg, anyway thanks. i will try again from scratch by following the guides u gave me01:23
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whazillacan somebody guide me to a subversion serv under ubuntu ?01:23
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alecjwDaveEngland: and, to compile anyhting, you need your linux headers too: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r` - the ` key is nxt to the 1 key01:24
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superjoelathiat, i type this "sudo killall automatix.py // sudo kill <pid>"01:24
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thelonermusanteon asiantuntijoita paikalla?01:25
Lathiatsuperjoe: no01:25
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shafirehave you got an installation tutorial, how to install an encrypted ubuntu?01:25
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slacker_nl!mo301:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mo3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:26
slacker_nl!mp301:26
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stefgfirepol: i normally set up samba for the network.... you never know if someone with a win-laptop needs access one day, and find it generally more convinient01:26
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superjoelathiat, what then just  sudo killall automatix.py01:27
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Lathiatsuperjoe: yeh try that01:28
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sqerheloo01:29
_Adramelech_!hi | sqer01:29
ubotusqer: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!01:29
alecjwsomeone speak! iot's scarily quiet here!01:30
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alecjw*it's01:30
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sqer:)01:30
Herodesanyone knows a good way to get packages and their dependancies from the universe for offline install ? Running on WinXP currently. Got my Xubuntu at home :)01:30
alecjwsomeone just crash their pc and ask for help!!!01:30
superjoelathiat thanks that worked01:30
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alecjwHerodes: nope. just download the package from package.ubuntu.com and then click on all of the dependencies and download those, and then click on teir dependencies and download those (it took me hours to install xorg that way!)01:31
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_Adramelech_Herodes: dont think theres a way, you can download deb packaes from internet and resolve the dependencies but theres no dependencies resolver for windows....01:31
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alecjw+1 to what _Adramelech_ said01:32
Herodesalecjw I suppose you know ::  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/i386/01:32
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firepolstefg, could be, but in the environment i work for the 3 pcs are not connected to internet and nobody else should connect to them01:32
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eXistenZDoes anyone have eclipse installed?01:33
IdleOneHerodes, try http://packages.ubuntu.com/01:33
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LameBMXHerodes, if you got time maybe if u run ubuntu in vmware then copy the folder over the network ... :/ but thats time consuming too to set all that up ... but it may be a little easier on the eyes then reading all the dependcies01:33
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LameBMXHerodes, not necessarily vmware .. but any network capable virtual machine01:33
magicfingeranyone know why i keep getting error 21 after install of linux01:33
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gOldZahNim looking for a powerful icq client for ubuntu-gnome. can any1 help me?01:33
Herodesic thx all ..01:34
stefgfirepol: ok, but compared to all those quite archaic unix-style solutions i find samba the more modern and manageable solution.01:34
alecjwmagicfinger: is that hte grub error?01:34
magicfingeryes mate01:34
alecjwmagicfinger: you repartitioned or removed any drives in between the installtion and getting the error01:34
IdleOnegOldZahN, try Licq01:34
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gOldZahNIdleOne, okaY i will trY01:35
alecjwgOldZahN: i use gaim for icq01:35
rahabgOldZahN: whats wrong with gaim?01:35
magicfingerwell i had to delete partion once i got that message and try again01:35
floatingHello. Why can't I see a picture when I try view macromedia content on website ? I hear a sound, but no video01:35
stefg!flash01:35
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magicfingeri think grub is pointing at the wrong drive01:36
slacker_nlgOldZahN: gaim is perfect01:36
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gOldZahNno i dont think so01:37
slacker_nlgOldZahN: why not?01:37
magicfingeri am trying to install on a usb hdd01:37
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eXistenZWhat is the option in gconf-editor for converting the address (path) bar to text?01:37
gOldZahNslacker_nl, i havnt tried any other programs yet so i cant say its no okaY01:37
slacker_nlahh, ok01:37
magicfingerso can anyone please help01:38
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IdleOnegOldZahN, try gaim it may be what yiou are looking for01:38
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magicfingershould grub be installed on the same hdd as ubuntu01:38
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stefgmagicfinger: get the grub command line at boot time, enter 'find /boot/grub/stage1' it will return the number of the right partition.. then 'root (hd0,3)' for example, 'setup (hd0)' that's it01:38
gOldZahNIldeOne, ive tried it already but i wasnt amazed very well01:38
IdleOnegOldZahN, I believe there is also package called alicq in ubuntu repos01:39
sqerprzy uruchamianiu mplayera wyskakuje mi blad "reguested audio codec family (afm=mp3lib) not avaliable (( what it this??))01:39
magicfingerhow do i get the grub command at boot time01:39
ikoniapress e to edit01:40
stefgpressd 'esc'01:40
stefgthen 'e'01:40
stefgno... 'c'01:40
magicfingerhmmmmm01:40
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magicfingeri really dont understand01:40
IdleOne!mp3 | sqer01:40
ubotusqer: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:40
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stefgthen understand first, and *then* juggle with your partitions ;-)01:41
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magicfingeri think ill just stick with xp01:41
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magicfingerthis sound complicated01:41
stefgmaybe not a bad idea...01:41
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IdleOnemagicfinger, you have to be willing to spend alot of time re-learning01:42
magicfingerhow can i learn if i cant install the software01:42
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IdleOne!dualboot | magicfinger01:42
ubotumagicfinger: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)01:42
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magicfingerdoes dual boot apply to two os on different hdd,s01:44
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stefgdifferent or the same hd... doesn't matter01:45
J-_Where would my hard drive be mounted/be called?01:45
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gOldZahNwhich program to open .rpm?01:45
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sqerhey boys i have little problem ( i can`t install game Need for speed Carbon in cedega emulator ) pc write : play2point error) :(01:45
ComboKillercedega01:45
J-_!hda01:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:46
J-_hrm01:46
stefgsqer: You're paying for cedega-support, aren't you?01:46
IdleOnegOldZahN, ubuntu doesnt use rpm01:46
gOldZahNIdleOne, but i couldnt find any .deb fpr licq01:47
slacker_nlJ-_: look in /etc/fstab01:47
magicfingerwell what has dual boot got to do with error 2101:47
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ComboKillerPIS PO MW LOL01:47
IdleOnegOldZahN, in terminal type sudoa pt-get install alicq01:47
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IdleOnegOldZahN, in terminal type sudo apt-get install alicq01:47
Liquid`Princess:O01:47
Liquid`PrincessIt's an english server ?01:47
J-_slacker_nl: thanks01:48
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sqeryes i pay01:48
sqerfor cedega01:48
slacker_nlLiquid`Princess: english channel01:48
Liquid`PrincessOkay ^_^01:48
gOldZahNIdleOne, Yeah i did but the window disappeared suddenly01:48
sqeri don`t have tel.01:49
stefgsqer, so ask the cedega support about your problem01:49
Liquid`Princessthx slacker_nl01:49
naxxtorhokay01:49
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sqerfor e-mail??01:49
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magicfingeri had three drives for grub (hd0) hda (hd1) hdb and (hd2) sba01:49
stefgsqer: in case that sounded rude: I mean you'll get better support from a specialist, than in a channel of volunteers, who don't know cedega too much01:50
Liquid`PrincessYou haven't halfop & op here ?01:50
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sqero.k. thx for help01:50
Liquid`Princess:'( Sorry I don't speak english very well :D01:50
magicfingerso how do i make it work please01:50
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slacker_nlLiquid`Princess: try !<language> to check if there is an ubuntu channel for your prefered language01:51
slacker_nlLiquid`Princess: like !nl01:51
slacker_nl!nl01:51
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl01:51
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Liquid`PrincessoO01:51
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IdleOnegOldZahN, what do you mean the window disappeared?01:51
ubuntui want to isntall ubuntu on my USB flash drive 4GB. it is locked and i cant make a partition. how can i remove that lock and make it accessible for partitioning? thanks01:51
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magicfingerwhy is this called the official support channel if no one helps01:52
gOldZahNnow ive tried to install licq with the program add/remove wizard but it said there would be a conflict with another installed software?!01:52
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IdleOnemagicfinger,01:52
IdleOne!patirnce01:52
magicfingeryes01:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about patirnce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:52
IdleOne!patience01:52
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:52
stefg!fr | Liquid`Princess01:52
ubotuLiquid`Princess: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:52
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francis_Albert_lhi01:53
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Liquid`PrincessAh ^__^01:53
qivhello, anyone using feisty?01:53
Liquid`PrincessThx :x01:53
gOldZahNIdleOne, now ive tried to install licq with the program add/remove wizard but it said there would be a conflict with another installed software?!01:53
qivis it usable already?01:53
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firepol!feisty qiv01:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about feisty qiv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:53
Liquid`PrincessGoodbye :')01:53
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IdleOnegOldZahN,  what software?01:53
ubuntu!partition01:53
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter01:53
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naxxtorcan anyone see a problem with Xinerama in this xorg.conf? http://pastebin.ca/29543501:54
magicfingerhelp please01:54
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francis_Albert_lhi01:54
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naxxtori keep getting "Monitor 1 and 2 cannot be type NONE"01:55
gOldZahNIdleOne, i dont know it said i could solve this problem by using extended software or something like that01:55
francis_Albert_lhow are you?01:55
patrick_hi evrybody!!!!01:55
magicfingerhi01:55
IdleOnemagicfinger, you need to go and read that link ubotu  gave you earlier about dualboot that will probably help you alot01:55
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magicfingeri have read it01:55
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naxxtorany ideas? http://pastebin.ca/29543501:56
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gOldZahNIdleOne, it said change to extended software-administration01:56
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magicfingerhas anyone else had the grub error 2101:57
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J-_Do I have to run onky in root to see the percentage of space used in /?01:57
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J-_Conky*01:57
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IdleOnegOldZahN, you are trying to many things at once and not resolving any issues before jumping to the next. I suggest you delete/remove that rpm you tried install then sudo apt-get install alicq if you run into any errors stop read wait and ask for help01:57
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naxxtoraggh, i hate it when people edit out their solutions on the forums....01:58
iGadgethi all01:58
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magicfingerhi01:58
naxxtori have the exact same problem as someone else and they edited their original post....01:58
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magicfingergrub error 21, help please01:58
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gOldZahNIdleOne, okay i see01:58
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Woody3444I want to install Ubuntu on my USB 4GB device, how can i partition it? it is locked and i cant partition it. thanks01:59
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POVaddctnaxxtor: i cannot check right now, but could it be that the MonitorLayout option is in the wrong section?01:59
POVaddctnaxxtor: also i find it strange to have two MonitorLayout lines02:00
naxxtorPOVaddct: it's suppose3d to be in both of the Device sections right?02:00
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POVaddctnaxxtor: i dont know for sure02:00
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stefgmagicfinger, are you on a ubuntu live-CD now, or in windows?02:00
magicfingerwindows02:00
lipe_I need some help to install Jdk1.5.0_10, please ...02:00
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naxxtorPOVaddct: the howto told me to duplicate the entire device section, so i guess that means two monitorlayout lines02:01
slacker_nllipe_: its in the repos if not mistaken02:01
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naxxtorall the otehrs seem to have 202:01
stefgmagicfinger, can't help you from there... boot up a Live-CD on the system and come back from Live-CD02:01
firepollipe_ : personally i install java manually in /opt, then i modify some links around02:01
magicfingerok thanks stef02:01
gOldZahNIdleOne, i always tried to enter the commands in the line you get by pressing alt+f2 but how can i open the clean terminal?02:01
magicfingerbut how can i join the channel from live cd?02:01
lipe_firepol: how did u do that ??02:01
lipe_firepol: I just add lines in ~/.bash_profile02:02
slacker_nllipe_: apt-cache search java | egrep -i "jdk|sdk"02:02
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IdleOnegOldZahN, alt+f2 enter terminal in the box02:02
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_Adramelech_magicfinger: using gaim02:02
gOldZahNIldeOne, Yeah but how can i open the terminal02:02
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magicfingerwhat is gaim02:02
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stefg!gaim02:03
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.02:03
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IndyGunFreakhow do you check the installed system memory on an Ubuntu 6.10 machine?02:03
IdleOnegOldZahN, that should open a terminal window for you02:03
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StalwartIndyGunFreak: free -m02:03
firepollipe_ that could also be a solution02:03
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Woody3444need help :)02:03
stefgIndyGunFreak: choose the memtest86 option at boot02:03
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IndyGunFreakok, free -m worked also..02:03
IndyGunFreakthanks.02:03
gOldZahNIldeOne, yes but i think then the terminal is just opened for this cmd....02:03
lipe_slacker_nl: oh nice, than i just install free java sdk ??02:03
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IdleOnegOldZahN,  also go to Applications > Accesories > Terminal02:04
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lipe_firepol: thx u, but i want to install using .bin ...02:04
gOldZahNIldeOne, ahh yeah thats what i wanted to know...i forgot :-[02:04
slacker_nlIndyGunFreak: I usually check it with top, you will get a particular line with memory and so forth02:04
firepollipe_ in this case, you just run the bin and follow the instrucvtions, did u do that?02:04
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firepolof course you have to install it as root. so e.g. sudo ./jdk.bin02:04
lipe_firepol: yes, but when i type javac, nothing happens ...02:05
IndyGunFreakslacker_nl, right, this is the line i have  1011        962         48          0        135        49202:05
robdemanhey gang, is Ubuntu 6.06LTS dual-core / dual-cpu compatible now?02:05
slacker_nlIndyGunFreak: look for a line like this: Mem:    515788k total,   507184k used,     8604k free,     8328k buffers02:05
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firepollipe_ : ok you habe to add it in the path02:05
_Adramelech_!dualcore02:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dualcore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:05
IndyGunFreakslacker_nl, which is strange, cuz my total should be02:05
IndyGunFreak102402:05
_Adramelech_!amp02:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about amp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:05
_Adramelech_!smp02:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:05
robdemanmmm02:05
_Adramelech_rodeman: i think it is02:06
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IndyGunFreakslacker_nl, i was really more curious about another machines memory, i know mine has 1024, but this reports it as only having 101102:06
stefg_Adramelech_: please put a /msg ubotu before your fishing attempts, so you see the results in your PM's and don't flood the channel02:06
lipe_firepol: I just added export JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_10 and PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH in ~/.bash_profile ... but nothing ...02:06
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novahow do I create a folder in usr/folders?02:06
robdeman_Adramelech_ its kind of scary, Ubuntu MIGHT not support dual CPU's... ?02:07
firepollipe_ you have to re-login02:07
lipe_nova: mkdir ...02:07
lipe_nova: mkdir /usr/folders02:07
novargr02:07
slacker_nllipe_: . .bash_profile02:07
slacker_nllipe_: on the command line02:07
lipe_firepol: ohh :p. ok02:07
POVaddctnaxxtor: i checked the xinerama config of my notebook (its still xfree 4.3.0, but i think it will work). i have no monitorlayout option anywhere.02:07
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lipe_slacker_ln: ohhh02:07
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slacker_nlthen hit env | egrep -i "PATH|JAVA"02:07
slacker_nllipe ^^02:07
firepollipe_ or: add it in .bashrc02:07
gOldZahNIdleOne, i think the installationprocess has been finished. but now there is no way to start it by going to applycations->internet02:07
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lipe_firepol: ok02:08
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lipe_slacker_nl: ok02:08
slacker_nlfirepol: I would then say in the .basrc to source .bash_profile02:08
naxxtorPOVaddct: I tried commentin the lines out and it complained that it needed them02:08
_Adramelech_rodeman: it supports dual cpus02:08
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firepolslacker_nl, usually its the opposite..02:08
IdleOnegOldZahN, yes I see that hold on a sec looking for it02:09
IndyGunFreakstefg, what if memtest86 isn't one of my boot options?02:09
IndyGunFreaki think it is with the live CD02:09
POVaddctnaxxtor: maybe the i810 driver behaves different. in my notebook i have a sis gfx card so i use the sis driver.02:09
gOldZahNIldeOne, dont hurry^^02:09
slacker_nlfirepol: don't know, just started playing around with bash02:09
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lipe_firepol: just it ???02:09
firepollipe_ relogin or: source ~/.bash_profile ;)02:09
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lipe_firepol: ok, lets try ...02:10
novaok now how do I make a txt file02:10
nova?02:10
firepollipe_ try to type: source ~/.bash_profile, it should read the new variables02:10
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stefgIndyGunFreak: then you don't have it ... :-) but never mind, it's just a memory test. i misunderstood your question: 'checking ram' is _testing_ for me, not finding the 'amount of free ram'02:10
_Adramelech_nova: using gedit02:10
slacker_nlnova: what's your favorite editor?02:10
novaok02:10
novadont have one on linux02:10
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lipe_firepol ohhh now its working !! :D thx u very much .!!!02:10
firepollipe_ ;)02:10
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lipe_firepol: GOD bless u !! bye bye02:11
POVaddctnova: you have a editor on linux. definitely.02:11
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firepolthanks and happy coding02:11
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slacker_nlPOVaddct: think he ws talking about his favorite editor02:11
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POVaddctslacker_nl: ah okay02:11
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francis_Albert_lnova,  but, have a the windows?02:12
IdleOnegOldZahN, if you go to the add/remove wizzard and check the Show commercial applications box. then search for Licq it will give you the option to install Licq and will show up in Apllications > Internet02:12
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firepolnova: right click on the desktop, and "create file": name it as file.txt ;)02:12
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magicfingerstef is gaim preinstalled on live cd02:12
gOldZahNIldeOne, thx i will try02:12
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IdleOnegOldZahN,  you may also want to sudo apt-get remove alicq02:12
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yokowitam czy jest tu kto kto pomoe mi z nvidia settings na ubu 6.12 ee ?02:12
novahow do I move a file from desktop to a restricted area02:12
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IndyGunFreakfirepol, thats what i was gonna suggest, but txt files automatically open in Opera for some reason..lol, so I had to change the file association with .txt02:13
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_Adramelech_magicfinger: yes02:13
ikonianova: thats just basic permissions02:13
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slacker_nlyoko: english please02:13
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magicfingerthanks do you need to sign up02:13
firepolIndy: opera? r we talking about linux or winzoz?02:13
yoko??02:13
stefgmagicfinger: yes... the whole idea of the Desktop CD is to enable you to come here for support, if you're in trouble02:13
novawell it wont let me save in the right folder no access02:13
IndyGunFreakfirephoto, linux02:13
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IndyGunFreakUbuntu Edgy02:13
firepolopera on linux??? ehm... quite strange02:13
IndyGunFreakfirepol, no, i always install it.02:14
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POVaddctfirepol: of course there is opera for linux02:14
stefgopera is developed on linux... cough,cough....02:14
slacker_nl!sudo | nova02:14
ubotunova: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:14
magicfingerok ill delete partition then boot up live cd and come back for help to reinstall02:14
magicfingerbrb02:14
hhannehello, i've got some subdomains for my apache2. but when i type in a subdomain which is not configured, I'll be redirected to a subdomain which I don't want to go to.02:14
hhannehow can i change that?02:14
furryballsfirepol: What's strange about that? The opera website will even show links to linux opera downloads.02:14
IndyGunFreakfirepol, main reason, Opera allows you to save ".mht" files, Firefox does not.  More or less, they are a snapshot of a website.  If I find a website with extremely useful info, I save it as an Mht to file with my backups02:14
IndyGunFreakthen in the event o fa crash, etc.02:15
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IndyGunFreakall i have to do is open the mht, to remember what i did to configure something iw as having trouble with02:15
slacker_nlhhanne: apache uses the first vhost it comes across02:15
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firepolMht, what's that?02:15
slacker_nlif its not defined02:15
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IndyGunFreakits an archive of a website.02:15
hhanneslacker_nl, how can I change that, to a default domain or subdomain?02:15
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firepolsomezhing like a httrack mirror?02:15
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IndyGunFreaknever heard of httrack mirror, i don't know.02:16
slacker_nlhhanne: just use a vhost which you want to have as the default and set it as the first vhost in the apache conf02:16
firepolnever heard of mht as well ;)02:16
insightI can't get updates dor synoptics02:16
Exposure`anyone want to help me troubleshoot wpa_supplicant?02:16
slacker_nlExposure`: hit me02:16
firepolanyway, thanks for the info, ill try that one day or another just to see how it works02:16
Exposure`ioctl[IPW_IOCTL_WPA_SUPPLICANT] : Operation not supported02:16
IndyGunFreakyeah, but it works for me, for instance, i've saved the sites on how to configure my TV card, my sound card, video card, etc.02:16
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hhannehmm... but I have the subdomains and domains in the vhost.d, how can I tell apache2 to first read the default?02:16
insightany help with synoptics02:16
IdleOnegOldZahN, when you get Licq installed you can add me 35905252902:17
stefg!apt02:17
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)02:17
_Adramelech_insight: what error do you get?02:17
slacker_nlExposure`: do you run wpa_supplicant as root?02:17
stefg!synaptic | insight02:17
ubotuinsight: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto02:17
insightone sec02:17
Exposure`slacker_nl, wpa_supplicant -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dipw -w -dd02:17
Exposure`slacker_nl, yes, as root02:17
insightsomething about net connection02:17
hhanneslacker_nl,  hmm... but I have the subdomains and domains in the vhost.d, how can I tell apache2 to first read the default?02:17
TC`laptopi am having trouble with my wlan card> ath0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device02:18
slacker_nlhhanne: wait one sec02:18
POVaddctExposure`: try -Dwext instead of -Dipw02:18
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insightCould not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)02:18
stefg!wifi | TC`laptop02:18
ubotuTC`laptop: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:18
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Exposure`POVaddct, seems to work, thanks02:18
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insightit was doing fine and then02:19
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POVaddctExposure`: the newer ipw drivers seem to like wext driver better02:19
insightfor no reason it wont update02:19
Exposure`POVaddct, why doesn't it work with ipw?02:19
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Exposure`ok02:19
slacker_nlhhanne: I don't use vhost.d02:19
stefginsight: did you change the hostname f your box?02:19
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slacker_nlbut make sure the default has a ame of 000-default or something similar to that02:19
insighti read about the updates02:19
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insightno02:20
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slacker_nlhhanne: it will read the files in the correct order then02:20
hhanneslacker_nl, so you don't know a solution? maybe I should just setup the default domain in the apache.conf directly02:20
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insightnot to my knowledge02:20
hhanneslacker_nl, ah, ok02:20
slacker_nlhhanne: or change the filename of your default vhost to 000-default-vhost02:20
stefginsight: did you install any firewall? firestarter/guarddog?02:20
J-_I don't understand why conky isn't recognizing /02:20
slacker_nlit shouls work afaik02:20
hhanneslacker_nl, sorry. I didn't see the answer at first. thx02:20
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gOldZahNIdleOne, it doesnt work....i cant find you02:20
insightNo02:21
slacker_nlhhanne: np dude :)02:21
IdleOnegOldZahN, what is your ID?02:21
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gOldZahN30045520102:21
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stefginsight: ok, so please pate the output of /etc/network/interfaces to the pastebin-url seen in /topic02:21
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IdleOnegOldZahN, says you are offline02:22
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gOldZahNIdleOne, gee i take gaim-.-02:22
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aroseHas anyone else encountered linux-image-2.6.15-27-386 failing to boot with GRUB error 18?02:23
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gOldZahNtry it again.....i will be back in 10 min02:23
stefgarose: that's a bios/LBA problem, not a kernel one02:23
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arosestefg, except that linux-image-2.6.15-26-386 boots just fine02:24
Benk20z3Hello, I just bought a Zune and when I hook it up with USB it will charge but i can not access it. I would like to see what kind of files are stored on it but I can't get in to it. any ideas on how to see on it??02:24
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stefgarose: ??? grub error 18 Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS02:25
aroseyes02:25
magicfingers11magicfinger is back02:25
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magicfingers11stef are you there02:25
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arosein fact all kernels befre 27 worked wihout a glitch02:26
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arosebefore*02:26
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stefgarose: that's a strange bug... but to tell the truth i've given up the ubuntu-stock-kernels a while ago... too much trouble, obviously. But might be worth a bug-report/research on Launchpad02:26
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arosestefg, I reported it a while ago, was rejected as a grub problem... haven't heard anything from the official channels since02:27
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stefgarose... i know the blues... that02:28
stefg's why i decided to kick the stock-kernels02:28
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ariccsHello all02:29
aroseunfortunatly this is my work machine, I02:29
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magicfingers11stefg  can you help please02:29
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aroseI'd rather not screw around with it as long as it works02:29
stefgmagicfingers11: are you the grub error 21 person?02:29
insightstefg ok I posted it02:29
FaithXHey guys, I am trying to get my bluetooth phone to pair with edgy and it is a no go... I'm hunting the web and the doesn't seem to be a difinitive answer... any ideas that might help?02:29
Benk20z3anybody know how I can make linux look at a mp3 player I have hooked up USB? It is a M$ zune. I would like to be able to look at the files stored on it.02:29
magicfingers11yes stef02:29
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TC`laptop        Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device e91302:29
TC`laptop        Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 16902:29
TC`laptop        Memory at d8000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] 02:29
TC`laptop        Capabilities: <access denied>02:29
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magicfingers11gaim is much better than mirc02:30
exsanyone using windows xp under vmware?.. I'm using it now but I can't get windows xp to get internet access.02:30
IdleOnexchat is much better then gaim02:30
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J-_irssi is much better than gaim =P02:30
stefgmagicfingers11: so get a terminal and enter 'sudo -s' in there. the prompt should change to 'root@ubuntu'02:30
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narvik86"sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Dec 29 15:28:00 2006" what should i do?02:31
insightstefg I changed from the dappers to the edgy in the resources list like the updates suggested02:31
magicfingers11stef do i need to install ubuntu first02:31
TC`laptopi got this message from lspci about my wfi card (mini pci):   Memory at d8000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]        What does it mean? how i can fix it?02:31
TC`laptopwifi*02:31
insightI missed 2 of them could that be a problem?02:31
insightShould I change them back to Dapper02:31
stefgmagicfingers11: Is there no ubuntu-install on the disk now?02:32
FaithXTC`laptop: what does lspci show you about it to start with02:32
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magicfingers11no stef02:32
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FaithXTC`laptop: what version of ubuntu?02:33
stefgmagicfingers11: so no need to troubleshoot... just install02:33
TC`laptop02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. Unknown device 001c (rev 01)02:33
TC`laptop        Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device e91302:33
TC`laptop        Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 16902:33
TC`laptop        Memory at d8000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] 02:33
TC`laptop        Capabilities: <access denied>02:33
magicfingers11ok stef02:33
IdleOnemagicfingers11, if you want stefg to see what you are saying to them you need to make sure youenter theyre entire name :) ( it highlights in red for them so they can see it clearly )02:33
stefg!paste | TC`laptop02:33
ubotuTC`laptop: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:33
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J-_I don't understand conky.. not sure why it's not mounting /... it says it's 92% fill and the bar looks like it's 3-4% full02:33
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TC`laptopedgy 6.1002:34
IdleOnearose, a core team leader :)02:34
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insightI can't be sure your getting my posts02:34
fmachadoexs, http://www.google.com/search?q=vmware+network+configuration02:34
stefgarose: ubuntu is suffering from severe scaling problems atm... further discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic, if wanted02:34
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magicfingers11stef which option should i choose (erase entire disk, use largest continuos space or manual edit partition)02:35
FaithXTC`laptop: Try modprobe ath_pci02:35
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naxxtorwow i really have xorg problems02:38
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vleoni have a strange problem02:38
ThomasZHm cdwriter (hdc) is not found on edgy; any ideas on how to get it recognized?02:38
Kesmanhi02:38
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TC`laptopnothing :/02:38
vleonwhen i try to run some application in 1025/768 resolution they crash02:38
stefgmagicfingers11: let me see your disk, as it is now... type 'sudo fdisk -l' to a term and paste the result to pastebin02:38
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TC`laptopi got a barebone pc02:38
Kesmanhow do I change the "java -version" command to show 1.5.0_10 instead of  1.5.0_08-b03?02:38
insightstefg I changed the sources list to edgy from dapper after I coulndt get updates02:38
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vleoni tryed alien arena 2007, unreal tournament 1999 GOTY (in wine)02:38
TC`laptopbut my mini pci card is listed that it works with ubuntu02:38
FaithXI used to run 640 res divx files on XFree and can only run 454 res on xorg02:38
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FaithXTC`laptop: iwconfig02:38
stefginsight: prolly your sources.list is borked... get a fresh one at !easysource02:38
fmachadoKesman, did you upgrade?02:38
naxxtorvleon: why play UT99 in wine? it's easily instaled native02:38
Kesmanfmachado: how?02:38
stefg!easysource | insight02:38
ubotuinsight: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:38
insight<stefg> I changed the sources list to edgy from dapper after I coul02:38
insightdt get updates02:38
UbuntuN00B_HBGHi all! Anyone here who can help me with my ATI X800XT? Installed the drivers from their homepage, then ran aticonfig and rebooted... then the screen whent black...02:38
vleon<naxxtor> i have the windows version02:38
TC`laptopsudo iwconfig >  no wireless extensions, on all02:38
Kesmanfmachado: I've installed JRE 1.5.0_10 into /usr/java, but I don't know how to update it02:38
naxxtorvleon: doesn't matter02:38
vleonwhat do you mean?02:38
insightOk02:38
naxxtori have the windows version too and i've installed it02:38
FaithXUbuntuN00B_HBG: Your res is too high for the screen probably02:38
naxxtorall you need is the right runscript02:38
stefginsight: get a new sources.list and don't forget to sudo apt-get update after02:38
fmachadoKesman, manually or using apt?02:38
vleonFaithX no my screen is okay02:39
vleonit can hold 1600X800 but the icons will be small (17 inch screen)02:39
UbuntuN00B_HBGFaithX: I got a 'ATI Control' in one of my menus, but it wont run...02:39
Kesmanboth, but I think apt-version is the one I'm using02:39
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Kesmanfmachado ^02:39
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TC`laptopfaithx my hardware suppose to run with madwifi drivers :|02:39
vleonanyway i dont really need scripts it runs fine under wine02:40
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vleonand the problem is not with the game02:40
magicfingers11http://pastebin.com/84714702:40
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stefgk02:40
vleonuts with ubuntu since aliean arena 2007 for linux crashed the same way02:40
fmachadoKesman, did you install uging apt-get / synaptic / adept / ... ?02:40
FaithXTC`laptop: problem is your device id is not listed in the software02:40
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Kesmanfmachado: I did install with apt02:40
magicfingers11i wan to install it on the 80gig drive02:40
Kesmanfmachado: but the version in the repos is not the latest02:41
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TC`laptopand how to solve it :| > install just win?02:41
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fmachadoKesman, and then you downloaded JSDK _10 from sun website?02:41
TC`laptopthat is worse designion02:41
FaithXTC`laptop: you can do that if you like02:41
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stefgmagicfingers11: 2 disks... that's good :-) where do you want to have your ubuntu installed?02:42
magicfingers113 disks02:42
FaithXYou should google your problem02:42
Kesmanfmachado: nevermind, there's a howto on the forum02:42
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magicfingers11on the 80 gig disk02:42
magicfingers11its an usb hdd02:42
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stefgmagicfingers11: is that dispensible ? any data on it, or can you just flatten that 80GB drive?02:43
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FaithXIt's not that big a deal really... get source ... hack in a new device id recompile driver and it is done02:43
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TC`laptopbut is there somehow other designion?02:43
magicfingers11no its empty02:43
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naxxtorthat's better02:44
naxxtorright02:44
TC`laptopFaithX you see that i'm like know what to do? :|02:44
vleonso no one knows whats my problem?02:44
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naxxtorsomeone back me up here: http://pastebin.ca/295435 does this look correct to you?02:44
stefgmagicfingers11: brilliant... then let the installer do his automatic job on sda1... but beware: grub gets installed to hda, that means you can't remove the 80 GB drive or you'll get grub errors :-)02:44
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magicfingers11thanks, but where should i install grub02:45
stefgmagicfingers11: the instzaller will deal with that02:45
J-_Where would the temperature of my hard drives be stored? Do all hard drives have temp censors?02:45
copperbottomhi. i'm new to ubuntu and i have problem with installing NVIDIA driver02:46
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Infelizcool02:46
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copperbottomcan someone help me?02:46
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magicfingers11but last time it installed it on (hd0) which is my 250gb drive (hda)02:46
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insightwhere do I find the source list file?02:46
Infelizcat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep EE02:46
magicfingers11i think thats why i got the error message02:47
naxxtorpeople in #xorg couldn't care less02:47
Infeliztry that02:47
saxinehm.. /etc/apt/sources.list02:47
insight<Stefg>where do I find the source list file?02:47
dbeWhy do I get: Failed to load output plugin "jackd". Trying defaults.    when I run: alsaplayer -o jackd wekilltheworld.ogg   I have jackd installed.02:47
naxxtorpreemptive strike02:47
stefgcopperbottom: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable  ... that's all02:47
insightthanks02:47
dbealsaplayer -o jack*02:47
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copperbottomstefg: i've installed nvidia-glx through packet manager and when i'm trying to enebale driver i get this: Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed02:49
copperbottomthe nvidia driver for your running kernel.02:49
stefginsight: /etc/apt/sources.list02:49
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stefgcopperbottom: you forgot the restricted-modules-package for your kernel02:49
magicfingers11how do i find out which hard drive ubuntu recognises as (hd0)02:49
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stefgmagicfingers11: a fuuny question, because the answer is already in it ...02:50
insight<stefg> right thanks do I just paste the generated source list over my old list and there will be no problem?02:50
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dbeAnyone?02:51
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stefginsight: backups are never a bad idea02:51
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FaithXTC`laptop: you are not trying very hard to solve your own problem... just making noise in the channel... 5 minutes in google and the answer... http://madwifi.org/changeset_static/1711.html   Please _try_ to help yourself a bit more in the future.02:52
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walahhello02:52
siv0xAnyone familiar with making steam and steam games work on ubuntu?02:52
stefg!games02:52
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org02:52
magicfingers11so what now stef02:52
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tim167what program can I use to make a zipfile that can only be opened with a password ?02:52
walahanybody have experience install ubuntu on ibook clamshell?02:52
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stefgmagicfingers11: just let the installer auto-partiton sda and install ubuntu to it02:53
FaithXanyone got a bt phone pairing with edgy?02:53
dbetim167: Use GPG instead to encrypt a file and the compress it.02:53
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copperbottomlinux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic is installed02:53
dbetim167: The other way is not secure for 5 cent.02:53
walahmy airport isn't work02:53
tim167dbe: can it be opened by a windows or mac user then ?02:54
magicfingers11but i dont want to install grub on my windows xp hdd02:54
mrstocks_on my laptop, with PCM vol / 100% the its still so low ...02:54
exsDoes anyone know how (or if it's even possible) to be able to see my ext3 partition (ubuntu) under windows xp using vmware?... I've got windows xp running quite simply, but I'd like to be able to access my ubuntu personal files in there.02:54
krauthow do i get the partition name of an UUID?02:54
stefgmagicfingers11: then you'd need aboot-floppy for ubuzntu02:54
mrstocks_exs there are partition progs to get into them02:54
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magicfingers11i dont understand stef02:54
iGadgetre02:54
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exsmrstocks_:  yeah?.. what programs for example so I can look them? up02:55
naxxtori don't understand Xorg02:55
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kenI need some firefox help!02:55
stefgmagicfingers11: the bios can only boot from the first hd... if you install grub somewhere else it might be ibstalled, but is never actually booted02:55
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FaithXexs samba on the host or use qemu02:55
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magicfingers11ok i see02:55
copperbottomken, what's up?02:56
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Lunar_LampI have a deb file - how do I get the sourcecode from it?02:56
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fmachadoexs, start VMWare. VM -> Settings -> Options -> Shared Folder02:56
naxxtorapt-get source packagemane02:56
naxxtor*packagename02:56
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fmachadoexs, now you can share host directories with guest OS02:56
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exsfmachado:  wow, thanks!02:57
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Lunar_Lampnaxxtor, that wasn't what I wanted, but I've found "dpkg -x *.deb DIR" now :-)02:57
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SubMOAhello, I was on here yesterday and was told to edit my xorg.conf file.  Well, I edited it and got the go-ahead from two people but it still crashed my X :O( any help02:57
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SubMOABTW, that wasn't supposed to sound accusatory!! *blush*02:57
magicfingers11its instaling now stef02:57
kenWhen one opens a new tab in firefox, one expects a clean URL bar, with the focus on the URL, but when i open a new tab, the URL bar is already filled with the web address of my previous tab, and moreover the cursor blinks on the URL bar so i have to backspace that whole address, and type in my new address. Whereas actually when one opens a new tab, one should see a clean url bar, so that one can start typing the new web addressright away. How do i change this behav02:58
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kencopperbottom: please see my above post02:58
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[BTF] Chm0dLOL ken loves third person02:59
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insight<stefg> that didn't work either02:59
kenSubMOA: Is x up and running now?02:59
insightThe repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems02:59
insightconnect (111 Connection refused)02:59
ken[BTF] Chm0d: Any help would be much appreciated :)02:59
stefgmagicfingers11: and restoring you win- Master Boor record all it takes is booting the win-install CD to the rescue conole and type 'fixmbr' in the windows command shell..02:59
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SubMOAken, yes02:59
SubMOAi delete the part i added03:00
novahow do I install a .rar file?? from the desktop03:00
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kenIf Any firefox users are lurking around here please help me out! :)03:00
SubMOAi can pastebin what i added (and subsequently deleted)03:00
magicfingers11yes thanks stef thats what i had to do last time03:00
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SubMOAgo ahead ken, I use firefox03:00
mrstocks_ken.... you know you can ctrl l and backspace03:00
SubMOAno guarantees, though03:00
kenSubMOA: what is the you want to achieve03:00
Rydekullken: dunno, but about:config can be a good start03:00
novahow do I install a .rar file?? from the desktop03:00
[BTF] Chm0dhey ken open up firefox and go to edit/preferences/tabs03:01
stefg!rar03:01
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free03:01
Lunar_Lampken, when I open a new tab in FF2.0 with "ctrl+t" I get the behaviour you want.03:01
kenSubMOA: I made the post above, so i dont want to spam the channel, please scroll a little bit up and find a long post from ken :)03:01
kenLunar_Lamp: But i don't any ideas what should do to change this?03:01
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tuna-fish-dumb question: is there a terminal application that lets you set the desired size of the terminal screen, and then when resizing it streches the font instead of resizing the terminal?03:01
stefginsight: still the can't connect to localhost-error?03:01
mrstocks_ken backup ur book marks and remove the config files03:02
SubMOAken, I got Beryl up and running, but, at one point in time it made my CPU run at 100% indefinitely, so I came here.  Anyway, I figured out the problem (I think) and although it didn't have anything to do with my xorg.conf file, someone said it wasn't complete so I added what I found on the ubuntu beryl article.  I had some people check it and they said it looked good.  Then restarted my comp and it wouldn't load03:02
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insight<stefg> still can't connect03:02
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kenmrstocks_: Good idea! but still what i am asking is unaswered, though yours is a excellent alternative03:02
SubMOAso i nano'd it and deleted what i had added and sha-bam it works03:02
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insightconnect (111 Connection refused)03:02
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stefginsight: paste me your /etc/network/interfaces03:02
stefgto pastebin03:02
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[BTF] Chm0dken did you read my post ^03:03
SubMOAken, have you tried Ctrl+T03:03
ken[BTF] Chm0d: Yes sir!, i am there03:03
kenSubMOA: Thats what i use by defualt03:03
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insight<stefg> I did . can you check to make sure you have it?03:03
[BTF] Chm0dwhat is checked off ken?03:03
copperbottomken: there is nothing to change in tabs settings. your firefox behave really strange03:03
SubMOAken, hmm03:03
stefginsight: i need the link in hre :-)03:03
SubMOAken, is it updated, etc.03:04
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insightI don't understand03:04
[BTF] Chm0di have a new tab checked and the first two boxes checked03:04
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insightI clicked on the  past.ubuntu-nl.org03:04
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FaithXTC`laptop: Note! To get the latest BlueZ packages, you can add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list:03:05
FaithXdeb http://bluez.sourceforge.net/download/debian/ ./03:05
ken[BTF] Chm0d: copperbottom: I use Tab MIx Plus, extension in Firefox, and i have used it since ages, and it controls my tab behaviour but never before have i experienced this annoyance03:05
stefginsight: when you pasted it, you got a number ... paste the url from your browser in here, otherwise i can't see anything03:05
ken[BTF] Chm0d: Same for me (checking options)03:06
[BTF] Chm0dive never used that extension so that would be new to me03:06
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SubMOAken, not sure what i'm talking about here... maybe emacs would work for you?03:06
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kenSubMOA: I too am not sure what to answer to you :003:06
SubMOAken, I just read something about it wiping all shortcuts for firefox (and gnome, fyi) so yuo can create youur own03:06
TC`laptopFaithX i'm green on compiling03:07
insightNow I cant find that damn window03:07
insightI am geting pissed03:07
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copperbottomstefg: restricted modules are installed. any other idea why driver doesnt wont to load?03:07
SubMOAken, I'm thinking a reinstall03:07
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stefginsight: that's just the culture-shock :-)03:07
SubMOA!beryl03:07
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl03:07
stefgcopperbottom: depmod -ae ?03:08
stefgcopperbottom: depmod -ae ?03:08
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kenSubMOA: I dont use beryl/AIGLX/Compiz for the simple reason that their site itself proclaims that it is beta and unstable software that is going to crash your system, moreover i dont think it worthwile to devout my precious CPU cycles to stupid Eye-candy. And moreover using unstable software as a interface for other software to run, is not a good idea by any standards :)03:08
kenmrstocks_: Which config files are you talking about?03:08
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stefgcopperbottom: lets try if the module is loadaple by sudo modprobe nvidia03:08
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tc75hi, do you guys have the ~"new gdm connection (w/ or w/o xnest)" in their default menus? (launches gdmflexiserver)03:08
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SubMOAken, i think all those things are pluses! (No, I don't, I just want to sound contradictory.  Hey, I'm 20, I have to make my OS appealing!)03:09
tc75i used to have it but disappeared on my new xubuntu setup03:09
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SubMOA:O)03:09
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magicfingers11ok stef time to reboot03:09
copperbottomken: i tried Tab Mix Plus and discarted it. Uses too much mem. And FF 2.0 was improved in tabs03:09
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kenSubMOA: I am little /not-interested in EMACS/VI, they simply scare me away :)03:09
insightOk I reposted the info but now how do I give you the link?03:09
magicfingers11brb03:09
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kane77how do I use crontab -e ?03:10
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copperbottomstefg: FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/modules.dep.temp for writing: Permission denied03:10
SubMOAken, ehhhhh03:10
SubMOAreinstall?03:10
stefgcopperbottom: sudo depmod -ae03:10
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androxxlhello can someone help me with apt-get update I got this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39319/03:10
kenSubMOA: You are talking about re-install of your entire OS?03:10
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SubMOAken, no, I mean reinstall firefox for you03:11
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maxykane77: that's probably the vi editor you're fighting with :)03:11
SubMOAnot sure what else to do, sorry.03:11
copperbottomstefg: no output in console03:11
SubMOA<=== newbie03:11
kenSubMOA: ok :) though i wouldn;t like to entertain such a idea :)03:11
insight<stefg> I reposted the information but how do I get you the link03:11
maxykane77: either learn vi, or set $EDITOR, or don't use crontab -e (use crontab my_crontab instead)03:11
stefgcopperbottom: that means success. sudo modprobe nvidia03:11
SubMOAwell, since i deleted that section, I suppose everything is working fine.  Sorry I can't help you more, ken, I'm pretty darn new to this whole thing, though.03:11
kane77maxy: .. nah I think its joe... but what is a syntax to write into?03:11
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SubMOAgotta run though.  Good luck!03:12
copperbottomken: try do disable Tab MIx Plus and see what happen03:12
maxyKanafani: ah ok.03:12
kenSubMOA: ok03:12
johan_i have no sound on my newly installed ubuntu, i fiddled with alsamixer to no avail and alsaconf doesnt work03:12
kencopperbottom: good idea :)03:12
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tc75hi, do you guys have the ~"new gdm connection (w/ or w/o xnest)" in your default menus? (launches gdmflexiserver)03:12
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maxy# m h dom mon dow command03:12
maxy*/30 * * * * /home/martin/bin/harddiskparanoia03:12
kane77maxy I need to set program to run every 15 minutes...03:12
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stefginsight: by looking at the addressbar of your browser... copy the link there, paste it in here03:13
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copperbottomstefg: Not loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:13
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trustsvip O_O03:13
maxykane77: use */15 for that instead of */30 above03:13
sviptrust O_O03:13
insight<stefg>as I thought yet another Hang up03:13
insightI can't display the address bar for whatever reason03:13
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insight<stefg> this is really getting aggrevating03:14
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stefgcopperbottom: oh, i see... either you forgot sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, or it failed... gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... get the line with 'nv' in the driver section and make it nvidia03:14
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maxykane77: read "man 5 crontab" for details03:14
kane77maxy, thanx...03:14
magicfingers11stef i got error 21 again03:15
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stefgmagicfingers11: after i looked at your harddisk-conf i'll assume that grub can't see the sda at boottime...03:16
kenFirefox users i need help!03:16
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daedraken: try #firefox03:16
kendaedra: Good idea :)03:16
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stefgmagicfingers11: so grub points in the vacuum which is filled only later with sda03:16
copperbottomstefg: done. reboot now?03:17
insight<stefG> I hope this works  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39320/03:17
magicfingers11how can i fix it then stef03:17
stefgcopperbottom: THIS IS LINUX... sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart03:17
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insight<stefg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39320/ I hope this works03:18
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stefginsight: yup, that worked, and it looks good03:18
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IdleOnewhere would the config files be for webboard?03:18
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insightso now what03:18
insighta complete reinstall?03:19
kendaedra: The #firefox channel is fast asleep :)03:19
Terminusken: irc.mozilla.org/#firefox =)03:19
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fakedhi all03:19
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stefginsight: no... go to a terminal and 'sudo apt-get update', then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' first..03:19
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xaaaxhey! I screwed up my ubuntu instalation when i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Now i can't see anything... It's all flicker. How can I enter text mode and change it?03:20
fakedhow can I deactivate bluetooth at the bootprompt on ubuntu-live-cds?03:20
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magicfingers11stef how do i fix the error then please03:21
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kenxaaax: Press ctr-alt-f1, logic with your username/password, and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and go with the default driver like VESA, and the defualt settings to get your GUI back03:21
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kenTerminus: That might help, thank you :)03:22
theloneronko ketn nimaailman asiantuntijaa paikalla virmidin luomiseen kubuntussa?03:22
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stefgmagicfingers11: your bios doesn't allow an ubuntu installtion to sda... take one of the /h/ da's03:22
txoofI've got cups installed and it works great.  I can't access any of the admin pages, howerver.  In firefox it prompts me for a username and password.  Where do I set this?  I've scoured the docs and can't find the answer anywhere!03:22
CoRnJuLiOxok, i've got two sound cards (one onboard, one SB Live! card), and the apps seem to be switching between the two. XMMS plays songs through the SB, while Wine and Totem Movie Player play songs through the onboard sound. Is there any way i can get it to play through one card only? i've tried the mixer settings, but it doesn't seem to have much effect03:22
xaaaxken thanks03:22
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CoRnJuLiOxno effect at all actually03:23
kenxaaax: Good luck!03:23
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magicfingers11ok thanks for your help03:23
ROBOdhello guys03:23
insight Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open03:23
ROBOdi have ubuntu edgy and two extern usb2 HDDs03:23
francis_Albert_lanybordy , here talk me?03:23
kenxaaax: After you come to end of the long configureation process of xorg.conf. simply type "startx" in the text-mode and everything will be back.03:24
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ROBOdif i connect them after i boot, i can access them03:24
IdleOnefrancis_Albert_l,  tape /join #ubuntu-fr pour de l'aide en francais03:24
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ROBOdif i restart the system, the devices are automatically mounted03:24
magicfingers11do you think upgrading bios will help03:24
ROBOdand i cannot access them with my normal account03:24
ROBOdi must use sudo03:24
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ROBOdwhat to do?03:24
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txoofROBOd: restart the usb deamon after you boot.03:25
francis_Albert_lIdleOne, no, i from brazil03:25
ROBOdtxoof: how?03:25
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theloneris here anyone who could help me to get virmidi running in alsa under kubntu?03:25
txoofROBOd: uhh, hang on a sec... fixing something else.03:25
francis_Albert_lIdleOne, dank03:25
magicfingers11good bye all03:25
fakedhow can I deny a service get started at the LiveCD bootprompt?03:25
IdleOnefrancis_Albert_l, obrigada03:25
stefgmagicfingers11: no, grub can't see the disk... you need to install to a disk which is visible immediatly after power on03:25
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IdleOnefrancis_Albert_l,  no space03:26
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magicfingers11do you think it will see a pci slot if i buy a pci hdd03:26
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kenp03:26
Nhello03:26
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ken!hi | N03:27
ubotuN: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!03:27
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insight<stefg> stil getting the  Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)03:27
Nyes! i'm coming03:27
txoofROBOd: read up on hotpluging.  I have a similar problem with my usb printer hand have to flash the firmware to /dev/usblp0 after boot.03:28
kenLjL: "Software is like sex; it's better when it's free." --Linus Torvalds" Are such quotes allowed in this channel? :)03:28
IdleOneLjL, would you happen to know where the config files for package: webboard would be? want to edit the default pastebin to ubuntu pastebin03:28
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IdleOne?03:28
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tim167where can I see how much free space I have left on my harddrive ?03:28
ROBOdtxoof: link please03:28
LjLken, *shrug*, when they're in a quit message... it's hard to draw the line03:28
the_conleytim167: df -h03:28
IdleOnetim167, du -h03:28
txoofROBOd: www.google.com03:28
kentxoof: :)03:28
ROBOdtxoof: :P03:28
LjLIdleOne, no, but what about dpkg -L webboard?03:28
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the_conleynot du, thats just the current dir03:29
Plintyhow can I make it that several programs could play sounds? Currently only one program can play sounds, if I start other program, then it doesn't play any sound. One exception is gnome desktop, it is able to play sounds anytime03:29
stefginsight: hmmm... your local net is set up, no firewall installed... what else can it be?03:29
novaHow do I terminate a program03:29
txoofROBOd: I don't have an exact link.  I just solved a similar problem, but for a printer.  YOu'll have to do the research your self.03:29
Nwho can answer for me. a question. about beryl install03:29
the_conleykill [pid] 03:29
tim167the_conley IdleOne: df -h or du -h ?03:29
the_conleydf03:29
IdleOnedf03:29
insightI tried to fix the install from the CD too03:29
txoofHOw does one set the password for cups web interface?03:29
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insightI'm lost03:29
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maddashanyone know a fast small irc client?03:30
LjLirssi?03:30
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stefginsight: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/67412-synaptic-repos-refuse-connection-proxy-setting.html03:30
maddashthat's what I'm using now03:30
insighti have tried all the different unbuntu Kubuntu03:30
maddashit maybe fast, but it sure isn't small03:30
kenLjL: How do i make a folder in Ubuntu, that every user is able to read/write, ever user can make sub-directories in it and paste whatever files and delete everything? Basically a kind of shared folder?03:30
maddashand it's console mode03:30
novamy crossover is stuck, how do kill it in the command line?03:30
LjLmaddash: you want faster and smaller? hm03:30
Plintycan linux applications play different sounds at the same time?03:30
daedrahey what does the modes +ei mean next to the irc nick?03:30
the_conleywhat is wrong insight?03:30
tim167ok my harddisk space is used for  91%, could this be the reason why my computer is so slow ?03:30
stefginsight read the link...your proxy settings are screwed03:30
maddashLjL: well, how about something that works outside of console mode?03:30
LjLmaddash: ircii perhaps?03:30
insighthow do I change them03:31
kentim167: You have swap? What's your RAM?03:31
txooftim167: only if you have somehow managed to write over your swap.03:31
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LjL!tinyirc | maddash03:31
ubotutinyirc: a tiny IRC client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.dfsg.1-1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 116 kB03:31
LjLmaddash: ah no, this is for console03:31
novamy crossover is stuck, how do kill it in the command line?03:31
xaaaxken: nothing happens when I type ctrl-alt-f1. In what moment do I have to type that?03:31
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tim167 ken, txoof: i have 256 RAM, swap too i guess, dont know how much tho...03:32
LjL!lostirc | maddash03:32
ubotulostirc: simple IRC client for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.6-2 (edgy), package size 241 kB, installed size 720 kB03:32
kentim167: please wait03:32
kenxaaax: Till what steps did you follow?03:32
DicanderIs the K8NF6G-VSTA motherboard onboard graphics card supposed to be able to output 1280*1024? I only get 1024*768 and in the display settings menu this is the highest resolution.03:32
daedraI like irssi :)03:32
Nsorry ! who can  help me!answer a question about 3D beryl03:32
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kenxaaax: Did the wizard for "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" go on properly?03:33
xaaaxken: I'm inside gnome. All is loaded but that key sequence doesn't do anything.03:33
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kenxaaax: Can you please re-bried me over your problem? I kinda'..forgot :)03:33
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kenxaaax: *re-brief03:33
LjLmaddash: that one is quite small, itself, smaller than irssi and ircii... but of course it does require a ton more libraries, since it's for X (and GTK)03:33
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gOldZahNIdleOne, srYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY for being so late03:34
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xaaaxken: i can't see my desktop. It is loaded but I screwed up X. I'm inside the desktop, just don't see anything. I want to login in text mode to change configuration but ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't do anything here03:34
tim167how can I see the size of my swap partition ?03:34
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novamy crossover is stuck, how do kill it in the command line?03:34
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kentim167: Right-click on GNOME launch panel>add to panel> In System and Hardware section, add System MOnitor03:35
LjLken: you probably want to create a group (say, "netshare"), make all the users that you want to access the directory members of that group, and then set that directory's setuid-group bit03:35
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Plintycan ubuntu play different sounds at the same moment?03:35
tim167ken: tnx03:35
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Nhelp me! now!03:35
IdleOne!patience | N03:35
ubotuN: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:35
stefg!dmix | Plinty03:35
ubotuPlinty: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin03:35
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kentim167: NOw you should have 1/2/3 graphs on your panel, right click on any graph go to preferences and check mark the SWAP graph on, disable all the other graphs. Now monitor the swap graph to see if you are overloading your SWAP area03:36
IdleOneN btw if you dont ask a question no one can help you03:36
Nthank you!03:36
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tuna-fish-Anyone know a good tty emulator tat lets you set the size of the window in rows*columns and if you resize it it streches the font?03:36
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tim167ken: in the Resources tab that is ?03:37
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maddashLjL: lostirc is 4.5 MB including the libraries I have to install03:37
kenxaaax: Press the left ctrl- left alt along with f1 key together and you shall enter a text mode. Definitely please try it once more03:37
Nthank you everyone! bye!03:37
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LjLmaddash, problem is, i can see that the package itself is small, but i cannot know which libraries and dependencies you already have ;)03:38
kenN: You are welcome :)03:38
novamy crossover is stuck, how do kill it in the command line?03:38
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kentim167: please be a little more specific03:38
maddasheh03:38
LjLmaddash, problem is, i can see that the package itself is small, but i cannot know which libraries and dependencies you already have ;)03:38
kenxaaax: What happened?03:38
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xaaaxken: it worked now but had to keep keys pressed for like 3 seconds03:39
xaaaxthanks03:39
maddashLjL: nearly none of them - I just got out of a fresh **server** install of breezy03:39
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LjLken: saw my message? it came a bit late. but is the idea clear?03:39
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LjLmaddash: server install - ok, that means you have ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard IIRC, and little more03:39
kenxaaax: Follow the process and it should all work well, i shall wait till you get it working correctly :)03:39
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LjLmaddash: well, you seem to have X too, though03:39
kenLjL: Yes i got the idea about making a group, and sharing the privileges with the group03:40
cdenAh, this is the first time I have used IRC through gaim. Can anyone see this message?03:40
kanzieI cant type less-then / greater-then and fork-characters since I installed Edgy with beryl and Swedish keyboard-mapping03:40
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tim167ken: i opened system monitor, you advised me to close the two graphs that are not the SWAP, I can't close them...but maybe that's not crucial. I just want to see if I have enough swap, diskspace, Ram, and find out why my system is so slow at times...03:40
Nthank !i'm very bad for english! my chinese ! see you later!03:40
matasoncden: yip03:40
maddashLjL: yep.03:40
kenLjL: The only thing i dont understand is this : set that directory's setuid-group bit03:40
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stefg!zh | N03:40
ubotuN: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk03:40
maddashLjL: tirc...only requires libncurses03:40
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novamy program is stuck, how do kill it in the command line?03:41
LjLken: well the important point is making the directory setgid. that means that any files that are created inside the directory get the group of the *directory*, and not of the user creating them (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid )03:41
Blinkeris there anyone here with icecast experience who's attention i can borrow for a few moments?03:41
novahow do find the id to kill it03:41
cdenThanks Matason03:41
Blinkeri'm trying to get it up and running for the first time =p03:41
kentim167: yes you got the idea, i asked you to disable those (if that was possible) so that you would get a clear idea whether your swap overflowed or not03:41
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matasonnova: ps03:41
tuna-fish-nova: ps  aux to console03:41
matasoncden: np03:42
kennova: run "ps -eux" and find the disturbing programs id, than run "kill -9 <ID>"03:42
kenLjL: I am really learning Linux, now :)03:42
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tuna-fish-if tyhe list is too long, ps aux | grep <whatever you want to find without the"<>">03:42
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tim167ken: swap graph is very static, around 33% usage03:43
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kentim167: And you say your computer behaves sluggishly?03:43
J-_what package can I download to see what my cpu temp is?03:43
LjLJ-_: lm-sensors03:43
J-_thanks03:43
xaaaxken: should there be a problem enabling glx and dri modules even if I don't have them installed or don't support them?03:43
tim167ken: yes, especially when I have large images open in Gimp for example03:44
LjLJ-_: then run "sensors-detect" as root to detect the sensors and tell you which kernel modules to load, and then "sensors" to actually see the values. then if you want there are several front-ends for both GNOME and KDE i believe03:44
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tim167ken: my swap is 705 MB03:44
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kenxaaax: Since your PC, has not got a FUNCTIONAL GUI i recommend not doing anything out of the ordinary, stick with the defaults unless you know they have been detected wrong, so than you have a GUI running. Than you can get into the specifics by asking @ ubuntuforums.org. BTW i dont know the answer to your question :)03:45
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J-_LjL: thanks dude03:45
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LjLUbotu, tell Aoirthoir about nickspam | Aoirthoir, see the private message from Ubotu03:45
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kentim167: CPU/RAM please03:45
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J-_LjL: Yeah I'm getting conky running =D pretty sweet program!03:45
kenubotu tell ken about yourself03:45
tim167ken: am running xload, i see large peaks when using Gimp, or OpenOffice, CPU=3gHz intel PIV, RAM=256MB03:46
wyldwhere is my sources.list?03:46
LjLwyld: /etc/apt/03:46
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namespacejez, what happend to the old xchat? how can i get the old interface back?03:46
wyldthanks ljl03:46
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LjLnamespace: sudo apt-get install xchat03:46
kentim167: Something wrong. Sorry i can;t be of much help to you. Good luck with your linux endeavors.03:46
tim167ken: then I have to wait after every action for a window to become active again (freezes)03:46
stefg!xchat03:46
ubotuxchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB03:46
stefg!xchat-gnome03:47
ubotuxchat-gnome: a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.13-0ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 296 kB, installed size 780 kB03:47
namespaceah thx03:47
tim167ken: np03:47
namespaceyeah i got the gnome one ;)03:47
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kentim167: Maybe LjL can help you.03:47
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siv0xdoes anyone the directory in kde for synaptic, it wont let me open synaptic with terminal, well it will but only write only.03:47
J-_LjL: No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them03:47
kenLjL: CPU=3gHz intel PIV, RAM=256MB, SWAP=750MB runs sluggish at times. please help tim16703:47
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LjLJ-_: hm, yeah, that happens to some people... try "sudo modprobe i2c-dev"03:48
tim167LjL, ken:  if you have time that is ofcourse :p03:48
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xaaaxken: alright, it seems that config is over, how can I kill the xserver that is running?03:48
Plintyis there a way to configure wine to use dmix?03:48
kenxaaax: Are you in text-mode?03:48
stefgsudo /etc/init.d7?dm restart03:48
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stefgsudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart03:49
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matasonWhat's the best approach for trouble-shooting total lock ups in Ubuntu 6.06?03:49
LjLken, tim167: well if you're using the GIMP and OOo, and "only" have 256Mb of RAM (yeah, i know, the "only" is unfortunate and a bit ridiculous, but), i'm not too surprised that things go sluggish.  but *what* is sluggish exactly? you get high CPU load, high I/O usage, high swap space usage, or all of them?03:49
stefgmatason: readin screen messages and logfiles03:49
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xaaaxken: yes03:49
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Yoshimitsuwe have come a long way today03:50
matasonstefg: Right, I get no messages or anything in the log...03:50
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J-_LjL: I did the command, no error, nothing came up. So I guess it's detected?03:50
matasonIt happens randomly03:50
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kenxaaax: If you are having a dysfunctional GUI running in the background, you can navigate to it be pressing ctr-alt-f7. Once there press ctr-alt-backspace, and it shall restartx03:50
LjLmatason: dmesg may be a good start, then grep through all of /var/log.  also, i suggest that when it locks you, you try pressing SysRq (which is usually AltGr+SysRq, really) together with the following keys, in sequence: R S E I U B03:50
siv0xdoes anyone the directory in kde for synaptic, it wont let me open synaptic with terminal, well it will but only write only.03:51
matasonOk thanks LjL, stefg03:51
Yoshimitsuok got Wireless running on PPC now i need to find the mac address, as i dont use SSID i use mac addresses to control access, but i cant seem to find the correct address even when looking in device manager03:51
tim167LjL: everything freezes until a process is done, (like opening a file or saving) I have to wait long until gui interfaces become active again after every action03:51
LjLmatason: that will hopefully reboot the system more cleanly than if you just pressed the Reset switch, avoiding filesystem corruptions and giving the system more chances to actually *write* stuff to the logs03:51
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th3manYoshimitsu: ifconfig -a03:51
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matasonLyl: Ok maybe that's my problem - after a lock up I've been leaving it for a few minutes and then powering down with the on/off03:52
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Yoshimitsuthanks th3man :) ifconfig did little i was hoping to get the rest :)03:52
kenxaaax: IF pressing and holding ctr-alt-f7 does nothing for you, then simply type "startx" at the command prompt03:52
CarlFKwhat email servers support imap?03:52
Blissex!nvidia03:52
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:52
stefgtim167: does the harddisk work then, or is it just waiting for something to happen?03:52
kenxaaax: Everything alright?03:52
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shadowhywindwhat is the difference between the 386 kernel and the 686 kernel??03:52
stefgthe name03:52
th3manCarlFK: scalix is a good one to try03:53
kenstefg :)03:53
LjLtim167: well, at any rate, i strongly recommend that you get another 256 - or better, 512 Mb - of RAM if you can afford it. having a 3GHz processor, but just 256Mb of RAM, is a waste. besides that... you could want to try "sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/hda" (or, if not 'hda', whatever your root HD is), and see if the HD is working at reasonable speeds03:53
J-_weird, i type 'sensors' and it still says no sensors detected03:53
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tim167stefg: good that you ask that, I almost forgot to say: there is unusually high disk activity at those 'freeze' moments...03:53
jeanjean /msg NickServ IDENTIFY perenboom03:53
CarlFKdoh!03:53
dllhd'oh03:53
siv0xlawl03:53
J-_lol03:53
jeanjeanlol03:53
kenjeanjean: WE saw your password :)03:53
stork!evdev03:53
stefgtim167: that's called thrash of death03:53
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th3manjeanjean: you're gonna have to change that03:53
LjLtim167: (for reference, i get around 50-60 Mb/s speed on a Celeron 1700 with an udma6 HD)03:53
th3manlol03:53
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tim167LjL: thanks03:54
stefgtim167: you need more RAM03:54
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stack_I have a cron job that just stopped working.  It worked a month or so back, but now it just doesn't run.  What's a good way to diagnose this?03:54
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LjLtim167: but, yeah, stefg also has a point. if you hear the HD chewing like crazy while the system is unresponsive, it's probably using the swap space, which just means you've run out of physical memory03:54
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kenLjL: stefg: What configuration (cpu-speed, hdd-size, RAM) would you term recommended and minimum for Ubuntu03:54
LjLof course, a faster HD helps there... but not really much. you just need more RAM03:55
tim167stefg, LjL: ok, more Ram, that's what I thaught, could I by any chance put Ram of a PIII laptop into my PIV ?03:55
stefgno way03:55
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sephirot1is there a  way to open .deb files in windows?03:55
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rambo3winrar ?03:55
sephirot1for some reason i am getting an invalid archive msg when i run apt-get with the downloaded files03:55
LjLken, IMHO 256Mb is good enough, but barely. i'd never go below 192Mb. still, if you use memory-intensive applications, 256Mb is still quite little, and anyway, again, a 3GHz processor is totally wasted with that little RAM, for desktop purposes03:55
siv0xdoes anyone the directory in kde for synaptic, it wont let me open synaptic with terminal, well it will but only write only.03:55
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dudesHI THERE!03:56
LjLtim167, i doubt it, laptops don't use the kinds of RAM that are in desktop computers normally03:56
wyldhi dudes03:56
rambo3siv0x,  waht?03:56
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tim167LjL: both laptops03:56
LjLsiv0x: try "kdesu synaptic"03:56
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LjLtim167: ah, well, then maybe, but still i don't really know03:56
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dudesi have a question, what it the equivalent, in Ubuntu, to the file "hosts" in windows?03:57
ollekalleHi, is there any proper way to uninstall HW in Ubuntu. I am planning to disable my onboard NIC and put in a new PCI one. Shall I just shutdown and mount new HW and reboot?03:57
sephirot1anyone?03:57
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LjLdudes: /etc/hosts ?03:57
stack_dudes: /etc/hosts03:57
dudesthaks!03:57
wyldwhat is the advantage to the 64 bit editions? does they run faster?03:57
dudesi will try it03:57
rambo3!blacklist > ollekalle03:57
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matasonsephirotl: someone suggested winrar03:57
sephirot1rambo3: tried winrar. says invalid invalid archive.03:58
LjLwyld: probably, a little. probably, not very noticeable. certainly, you'll get a headache if you need to install WINE, Flash, the W32codecs, and other (mostly proprietary) stuff03:58
wyldoh joy03:58
xaaaxken: I now have a functional high-res desktop like I wanted before screwing things up. Thanks!03:58
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tech09ollekalle, yes... should be fine03:58
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wyldi hate proprietary crap03:58
kenxaaax: You are welcome, Happy to be of service :)03:58
QwertyMwe all do :(03:58
ollekalletech09: thanks03:58
dudeswhen i change the /etc/hosts files, what i have to do to work with the changes?03:59
LjLwyld, QwertyM: right, but still even SourceForge is using Flash now ;-)   (yes, yes, it does still work without)03:59
kenxaaax: I just happened to be at the right place, in the right frame of mind at the right time, to help you, thats all :)03:59
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dudesoh, nothing it works :P03:59
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stefgdudes: this is linux, in case you didn't notice :-)03:59
matasondudes: yip03:59
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wyldyay for the cool linux03:59
kenwyld: I simply love, adore it, i cant love without proprietary <whatever> ;)03:59
zero-9376anyone know of an app to build a xbox iso for linux?03:59
QwertyMMPlayer better than Xine ?04:00
stefg!better04:00
kenQwertyM: Methinks04:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about better - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:00
tim167ken, LjL, stefg: ok guys, thanks for the help, I'll clearly have to go for more RAM, hope things get smoothened out a bit then :)04:00
wyldken: I know, That is why lots of us dual boot04:00
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QwertyMken, ok, I'll try playing some vids and do a test :)04:00
stefgtim167: or a neat lil' fluxbuntu install :-)04:00
kenwyld: That was meant to be sarcastic04:00
sephirot1wyld: cause there are soemthings that linux is not most appropriate for.04:00
kenQwertyM: Please report the results04:00
QwertyMsure ken04:01
QwertyMlemme install mplayer now :p04:01
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QwertyMwas surprised I dont have it heh04:01
QwertyMapt-get ftw... :P04:01
kenLjL: stefg: Would using Xubuntu help tim167, to stop those moments of 'freezes' that he experiences when opening resource-heavy apps?04:01
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stefgKen, it would help, but his problem isn't one of a few MB... large photos in gimp can eat up +100MB easily04:02
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sephirot1my dhcp3 server fails to start up. could this be caused by a failed piece of hardware (ethernet card)?04:02
wyldken, sephirotl: I know04:02
tim167stefg: yea I did install fluxbox but I couldnt get it to work right yet, I have also installed Xubuntu, but I'm not sure what I'm running now, it looks like plain Gnome in fact, although the login splash screen says 'Xubuntu'04:03
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stefgtim167: and if you installed a lot chances are that theres a bunch of daemons chewing on your system resources...04:04
LjLken, tim167: maybe, but only if he changes his choice of applications. using Xubuntu and then full-blown GNOME apps on it wouldn't make much sense, since most/all of the GNOME libraries would still be used04:04
kenLjL: stefg: Help: When i open some window or some window is opened by defualt by a application (eg. firefox messages). Than a Oval (ellipsoid) really small ellipsoid opens up, on stretching it out with a mouse, one sees that it is a window that is empty (it shouldn't, there was some problem that caused a empty small window), so when one stretched out that ellipsoid than a empty window is seen, which should actually have been a decent sized notification message. Thi04:04
LjLbut then neither OOo nor the GIMP are GNOME applications strictly speaking04:04
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kenLjL: not even GIMP?04:04
LjLken: no. actually,04:05
LjL!gtk04:05
ubotuGTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI04:05
LjLken: GTK was *created* for the GIMP, and it still just uses GTK directly04:05
tim167stefg: that's very likely, I installed ALOT (new ubuntu user trying out new toys huh ;) )04:05
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stefggtk means Gimp Tool Kit04:05
TooR4uhow to hide our ip in IRC?04:05
LjLken, i have no idea what you're talking about there, honestly :o)04:06
LjLTooR4u: ask the Freenode staff for an unaffiliated cloak04:06
LjLTooR4u: www.freenode.net04:06
stefgtim167: So you did everything right: Ckecking the limits, gaining experience and developing a feel for what is what and needs this and that04:06
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stefgtim167: so it's time for a real install now :-)04:06
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siv0xHow do i get to wine with KDE Desktop?04:07
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kenubotu tell ken about cloak04:07
LjLsiv0x: sudo apt-get install wine -- or the equivalent from Adept04:07
siv0xSorry not wine, but Synaptic.04:07
cody___I have a question for people. I am fairly new to Linux and I did a 64bit install of Ubuntu the other night and I am having all kinds of problems getting things to work. Does the 64bit version have more problems (incompatablities, etc) that the 32bit version04:07
LjL!msg the bot | ken04:07
ubotuken: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...04:07
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stefgcody___: oh, yessss....04:07
LjLsiv0x: kdesu synaptic04:07
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siv0xLjL: well, that helps too.. i'm having problems getting wine installed.. and i was going to do it with synaptic.04:08
cody___stefg, I plan on installing the 32bit version and I am hoping things go smoother04:08
LjLsiv0x: what kind of problems?04:08
cody___it took me about 15 hours to get wireless working04:08
stefgcody___: and have fun with codecs and flash :-) which don't work s good on 64bit04:08
siv0xLjL: for one, getting to synaptic.. also, that command gives me an error.04:09
LjLsiv0x: pastebin the error04:09
LjLUbotu, tell siv0x about pastebin | siv0x, see the private message from Ubotu04:09
kenGood Bye people, Happy UBUNT-ing04:09
LjLbye ken04:09
siv0xljl: i know how.04:09
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tim167stefg: yes, maybe, but some things that are working now took alot of effort (like certain specific alsa drivers, certain libraries I compiled...) I'd have to do that all over then...04:09
cody___has anyone installed 32bit edgy w/broadcom wireless?04:09
sephirot1LjL: whats the easiest way to test a samba server - at home i've got only 2 PCs i could hook them up via cross-over cables...but thats where i get lost04:10
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LjLsiv0x: sure, it's just that many people take "pastebin" as "paste", and flood the channel, so i've learned to avoid that in advance :)04:10
stefgtim167: if you did your compiling right you have your stuff as .debs, even if its just checknstall debs04:10
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stefg!checkinstall | tim16704:11
ubotutim167: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!04:11
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siv0xLjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39326/04:11
siv0xLjL: i know :P04:11
Yoshimitsuphew got wireless working04:11
Yoshimitsuthank god thats over04:11
LjLsephirot1: "sudo mount //server-name-or-ip-address/share-name /mount/point -o username=some-user-that-you-have-enabled-on-the-server"    and on the server, you'll need smbpasswd to enable users to login, as well as editing /etc/samba/smb.conf to add shares04:12
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LjLsiv0x: uhm, that's while trying to run 'kdesu synaptic'?04:12
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LjLsiv0x: how did you install KDE? you used the Kubuntu CD, or installed the 'kubuntu-desktop' package, or what?04:13
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tim167stefg: I'll think about it, but for the time being I'll stick with this 'working-but-at-times-sluggish' installation. My sound apps work quite well btw. and who knows with a bit more Ram popped in, it might even become livable :-p04:13
siv0xkubuntu-desktop04:13
LjLsiv0x: (note that the first couple of warnings -- the "X error" ones -- are normal)04:13
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RugHowdy all04:13
LjLsiv0x: does 'sudo' work normally? like, try 'sudo true'04:13
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siv0xLjL: yes04:14
siv0xLjL: i can always reinstall KDE if this will fix the problems, thats no biggy04:14
LjLsiv0x: ok, then after those error, it just puts you back to a shell prompt?04:14
stefgtim167: a default install of ubuntu is possible in 3G... i have 3 ubuntus on my box, for reference or testing reasons04:14
LjLsiv0x: i don't think it will04:14
siv0xLjL: yes04:14
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siv0xLjL: okay so is it a major problem or?04:14
tim167stefg: what's 3G ?04:14
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stefgtim167: 3 GigaByte04:15
tim167stefg: ok04:15
LjLsiv0x, i haven't the slightest idea right now. does 'kdesu' work with other programs? like, try 'kdesu true' and then also 'kdesu kate' and 'kdesu gedit'04:15
LjLsiv0x, also are you on edgy or dapper?04:15
stefgso you can alway install two versions side-by-side and check things, then just copy over wht 'passed' the test04:15
StingRayHi. Can somebody tell if I can modify the login menus, like type of session and etc?04:16
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sephirot1LjL: there's more. most of the machines at work use windows. I am going to assign IPs using DHCP3. All the hosts will be connected to the switch - same goes for the linux box running DHCP3.04:16
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HughMiliatorquit04:16
siv0xLjL: i'm on dapper04:16
sephirot1question is, if windows boxes are configures to automatically configure the ip, would DHCP do work?04:16
HughMiliator.quit04:16
LjLsephirot1: DHCP shouldn't be a big problem i think... but myself, all i've ever worked with is a very small static-IP network04:16
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daedrascript load trackbar.pl04:17
daedraoops04:17
LjLsiv0x: have you ever edited /etc/sudoers and/or set a root password?04:17
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siv0xLjL: no04:18
mineraleI currenly have an ipv4 inet address, however ifconfig shows some pseudo-fake ipv6 address for eth0: inet6 addr: fe80::12:3f:fe:66/64 Scope:Link  -  and this is causing me confusion with the other *actual* ipv6 inet address -- ie local ipv4 connections are showing as ipv6 when they should not (netstat) - how can I have eth0 be ipv4 only ?04:18
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siv0xLjL: if i reformatt, can you help me get my nvidia driver back?04:18
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siv0xLjL: or is there maybe an easier way out of this?04:19
daedrastefg: haha04:19
sephirot1minerale: doesnt it work when you have it configured explicitly for the iface to be inet4 in /etc/network/interfaces?04:19
willie_I have Ubuntu 6.06 LTS installed on my pc, but i've problems with my graphics!! There is only one setting for the refreshrate and any full screen movie laggs! Even the screensavers laggs. can anyone pleasse give advice04:19
LjLsiv0x: maybe, one thing at a time. i don't think you'll have to reformat, right now04:19
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siv0xLjL: k04:19
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LjLsiv0x: how did you install the nvidia drivers, though? (and, have you ever run chmod or chown as root?)04:20
HHakHello, I have a problem with my Ubuntu. Could anyone advice me in this one?04:20
LjLsiv0x: and, does kdesu even show the password dialog, or just fails with those errors without showing any window?04:20
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stefg!anyone | HHak04:21
ubotuHHak: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?04:21
firepolHHak, as the question directly04:21
firepolask04:21
RiyonukHas anyone installed kismet?04:21
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siv0xLjL: kdesu just ends at what i pasted, doesnt give me a place to type anymore. and it doesnt give me a password dialog04:21
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HHakI have this problem: Something happened while I was switching off services from System -> Admin -> Services. The window crashed and closed. Now everytime I try to reopen this window it pops out a message box saying "Configuration could not be loaded ... You are not allowed to access the system configuration."04:22
HHakRebooting did not help04:22
Stormx2HHak: Eek04:22
HHakand additionally when I log in, its says "internal error ... failed to initialize HAL"04:22
Stormx2HHak: Which service?04:22
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HHakI dont recall anymore04:22
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Stormx2Bleh04:22
HHakI think it was the printing services04:23
Stormx2ubuntuforums.org <-- post a topic04:23
LjLsiv0x: i can't find anything on google or launchpad... do you have the dapper-updates and dapper-security repositories enabled (for all components - main restricted universe and multiverse, if you have them all)? and did you do an upgrade recently?04:23
HHakok04:23
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siv0xLjL: yes, i upgraded recently, and i'm not sure about anything else.04:23
LjLsiv0x: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list just to be sure04:23
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siv0xLjL: how do i find /etc/apt/sources.list ?04:25
siv0xLjL: i'm new with linux.04:25
RugWhile running WineTools (for the first time), my system rebooted.  Upon restart I get a Grub15 error.  I can access all the data if I boot off of a CD.  fsck reports a clean / partiton.  Any suggestions to allow me to boot again?04:25
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Rugsiv0x: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list04:26
LjLsiv0x: type "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"  --  of if kdesu fails, just "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" (but, i *am* interested to know if it fails with kate)04:26
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wyldhow can i get thunderbird?04:26
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LjLsiv0x: if with nano you have trouble pasting, just "kate /etc/apt/sources.list" (that way you won't be able to modify it, but you'll still be able to read it)04:27
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LjLwyld: sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird04:27
RiyonukHow come when I try to move a file from one place to another I get an access denied related error? I then have to do sudo mv file place and thats a pain...04:27
wyldthanks ljl04:27
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stefgRug: i can't see a plausible relation between wine and grub atm... unless you decided to have /boot as your wine-dir :-) (impossible in reality)04:27
KDanhello... i'm trying to get wireless working on a dell latitude D410, ubuntu 6.10. iwconfig shows the eth1 wireless, but lshw shows *-network DISABLED... I've made the wireless enabled by default in the bios (it already was)... tried telling it the ssid in ubuntu's network config... what else can i do?04:27
LjLUbotu, tell wyld about software | wyld, see the private message from Ubotu04:27
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bulmerRug: several "grub 15 error"  explanations found on google04:28
Rugstefg: it might be a coincidence, but I thought I would provide all the setails04:28
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Rugdetails04:28
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stefgRug: i'd have a careful look at your HD's smart-stats, and run a RAM-Test04:28
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bulmerKDan: tried the "iwlist" commands yet?04:29
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stefg!smartmontools04:29
ubotusmartmontools: control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.36-6ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 256 kB, installed size 620 kB04:29
Rugstefg: if it all looks good?  nuke &^ reinstall?04:29
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wyldljl, i knew about that, but i couldn't find it in synaptic, and didn't know the exact spelling in apt-get04:30
KDanbulmer: nope. *tries*04:30
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stefgRug: backing up before might be a good idea... theres always some setting which you'll need afterwards again04:30
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LjLwyld: then "apt-cache search thunder" would have helped04:30
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wyldoh04:30
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vinylgirlHello, I have the following problem: when I connect my USB WiFi adapter, it always shows as eth1 and never as wlan0 I did vi /etc/modprobe.d/aliases04:30
wyldi didn't know aboot that04:30
Rugok thanks04:30
LjLwyld: which is why i gave you those factoids ;)04:31
vinylgirland put alias wlan0 zd1211rw04:31
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vinylgirlbut it stills shows up as eth1 in iwconfig04:31
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CaptainMorgananyone know why proftpd when trying to start it hangs?04:31
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KDanbulmer: no scan results04:31
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jbroomeCaptainMorgan: not off hand, but i'm pretty sure it logs to /var/log04:32
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vinylgirlhere's what the kernel says when I plugin my usb wifi adapter: Dec 29 16:29:45 lithium kernel: [17203961.060000]  zd1211rw 4-5:1.0: zd1211b chip 0ace:1215 v4810 high 00-02-72 AL2230_RF pa0 g--04:32
narmahello, how can change my xubuntu to ubuntu without reinstall ?04:32
vinylgirlshows up as eth104:32
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IdleOnenarma, sudoa aptitude install ubuntu-desktop04:32
IdleOnenarma, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop04:32
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bulmerKDan: umm the driver for your chips may have not been loaded yet or non-functional non-compatible with the chips you have..you can try  lsmod to see which driver module is loaded for your chip04:33
CaptainMorganthere's no log jbroome, this would be the first time Im starting it... maybe it's a bad config file?04:33
IdleOnenarma, after thats installed you will need to logout and back in chosing gnome insession at login screen04:33
stefgnarma: by sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop you get all the ubuntu setup... but you have to get rid of the xfce packages manually04:34
narmaIdleOne, ubuntu-desktop will update all the system to be a ubuntu that's right ?04:34
bulmerKDan: as a consolation, my ACX11 TI chips seems to be non-functional with the stock driver that came with ubuntu, I could not get it to scan either04:34
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narmastef, IdleOne thanks :)04:34
KDanbulmer: I think the module is "bcm43xx" since it's a broadcom 430604:34
IdleOnenarma, yes but like stefg said you will need to remove xfce by hand if you choose to do so04:34
KDanit's there when i type lsmod04:34
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CaptainMorganmaybe I should log out and see what happens?04:35
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doopsiehello people, i own a w5f and was trying to get the webcam to work under it. i found a website http://lists-archives.org/spca50x-devs/01024-asus-w5f-laptop-with-vimicro-webcam-usb2-ubuntu-edgy.html that showed ppl how to make it work under linux but i dont quite understand the instructions. could somebody guide me along it?04:35
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bulmerKDan: is that a stock module that came with ubuntu install? am just guessing its not totally compatible with your chips04:35
KDanyep, so04:36
KDan*stock04:36
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doopsiehttp://www.acacs.org/bernard/ this is the website that it links to but i dont understand the language04:36
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KDansomewhat annoying is that the wiki page for the "LaptopTestingTeam" is 404'ing, even though that's what's linked from the wifidocs04:37
KDanhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaptopTestingTeam04:37
bulmerKDan: maybe you try reloading the module via  modprobe bcm43xx04:37
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LjLUbotu, tell [niceday] _ about away | [niceday] _, see the private message from Ubotu04:37
bulmerrather unload (rmmod)  then reload modprobe04:37
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stefgdoopsie: have you ever compiled software from source before?04:38
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webmarenthe cover looks...04:38
webmaren...interesting04:38
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doopsieim quite a linux newbie. i've tried compiling, but never really succeeded04:38
doopsieits the tar -xyfz thing or something right?04:38
HHakexcuse me, what was the nickname for the 6.10 release? dapper drake?04:39
doopsieedgy eft04:39
LjLUbotu, tell HHak about edgy | HHak, see the private message from Ubotu04:39
HHakoh yeah04:39
bulmerKDan: just my experience so far...i tried to use the ipaq driver for pda that is stock, and fails, i have to reload it to make it work..04:39
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RedShiftwhat's better in terms of performance04:39
RedShiftxfs or jfs?04:39
Aarohii'm getting an 'internal error' 'failed to initialize HAL' error when ubuntu boots up04:39
stefgdoopsie: he whole process involves a lot of knowledge, and i'd suggest to get a geek to get it done04:39
RedShift(kubuntu 6.06 doesn't support reiserfs??)04:40
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LjLRedShift: it does - if you use the alternate CD04:40
doopsiethere isn04:40
bulmerdoopsie:  tar -x  filename   x is for extracting an archived file like a zip file04:40
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LjLRedShift: with the Desktop CD, i think you can only use ext304:40
doopsiethere isn't any linux geek where i live =(04:40
KDanbulmer: thanks for the help. just tried it and didn't work unfortunately :-(04:40
RedShiftcrap04:40
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LjL!convertfs | RedShift04:40
ubotuconvertfs: in-place filesystem conversion. In component universe, is extra. Version 20050113-1 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 116 kB04:40
montoyaWhy kdevelop run in english!!! My locale is set to italian04:40
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KDanit installs all the other sensible dependencies... e.g. ieee80211, etc04:40
LjLRedShift: (note that's *dangerous*, only do it if you've got nothing to lose on the partition)04:41
KDanwell, 2 of them anyway04:41
bulmerKDan: am struggling with my ACX11 card too..have not tried ndiswrapper yet..04:41
doopsieyup. that part i nkow =)04:41
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vinylgirlHm, my WiFi adapter always shows as eth1 and not wlan0. I already changed things in vi /etc/modprobe.d/aliases04:41
vinylgirlbut it doens't help... How the fuck can I fix this ?04:41
bulmerwell i had acx11 work on suse with ndiswrapper just have with ubuntu yet04:41
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DBOvinylgirl, watch the language please04:41
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LjL!language | vinylgirl04:41
ubotuvinylgirl: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:41
stefg!language | vinylgirl04:42
DBOI win04:42
IdleOnevinylgirl, start by not swearing in here please this is a family type channel04:42
stefgok,04:42
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bulmervinylgirl: whats so wrong with having an interface name eth1 instead of wlan1 ?04:42
LjLDBO: you didn't have the family friendly part. you lose04:42
DBOyou cheated04:42
LjLDBO: ubotu ain't cheating :P04:42
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stefgBTW, DBO i owe some OSS royalties for the code snippets yu gave me in summer... the box works now and we have a happy old lady with email04:43
vinylgirlbulmer: well it's a pain in the ass. And the same device shows as wlan0 in Debian, after editing the udev configuration04:43
KDanbulmer: hmm.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingUbuntuOnADellLatitudeX1?highlight=%28dell%29 seems to imply that i need some sort of "ipw2200" driver04:43
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vinylgirl... but, *sigh*, the udev configuration in Ubuntu differs from DEbian04:44
DBOstefg, Id be lying if I said I remembered =P04:44
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KDanand remove ieee8021104:44
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HHakthanks for your help, i posted a question in the forums ...04:44
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bulmerKDan: we must do what it takes to get it working  :)04:44
unfunHow do I acces the terminal through my key board?04:44
stefgDBO: awk.... textfiles with increasing number... anyway, thanks a lot04:44
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HHaklogging out04:44
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DBOstefg, remember now, glad it worked out for you =)04:45
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StingRayCan somebody tell if I can edit the login manager?04:45
sugarraybuenas04:45
psycodefor some reason i have no internet access from my ubuntu machine. i get an ip from the router, but that's about it. can someone help me with that? (im a windows user usually) - how can i for example check my defauly gateway settings?04:45
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sugarrayalguien en castellano?04:46
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LjL!es | sugarray04:46
ubotusugarray: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:46
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QwertyMunfun, hit alt f2, search terminal and hit enter04:46
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SilverboiHi guys..just wanted to know if anyone has successfully installed and booted Ubuntu with a USB harddisk on a MacIntel laptop?04:46
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stefgpsycode: DNS trouble?04:47
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StingRayCan somebody tell me if I can restrict some users to graphical login of ubuntu?04:47
psycodestef, nope, i tried google.com's ip.04:47
UbuntuN00B_HBGHi all! How do I find out if /boot/grub is on (hd0,0)... (hd1,0)... ??04:47
psycodestefg, that was for you^04:47
stefggot it... still chewing on it04:47
psycodestefg, how can i check my default gateway?04:48
chimera_Is it possible to use emerald without beryl for perfs?04:48
stefgcat /etc/network/interfaces04:48
chand|psycode: $ route04:48
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psycodestefg, yup that's incorrect:) how can i change the default gateway?04:49
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stefgPsycode just edit the file with root privilegs and save it04:49
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the_conleyi dont think you can StingRay04:50
psycodestefg, anything i need to do for changes to take affect?04:50
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the_conleythat doesnt really make sense at all...04:50
bulmerStingRay: look for /etc/securetty or /etc/usertty  that may restrict such user login via tty04:50
stefgpsycode: sudo ifdown eth*, sudo ifup eth*04:51
stefgor whatever your NIC is called04:51
the_conleyah, well yea04:51
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the_conleyok theres that, forgot04:51
the_conleyi thought you meant locally04:51
UbuntuN00B_HBGPlease help a n00b out! :) How do I find out if /boot/grub is on (hd0,0)... (hd1,0)...?04:51
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bulmerUbuntuN00B_HBG: do an ls -la  /boot/grub04:52
the_conleyyou arent trying to restrict them to use graphical, just to log in locally04:52
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psycodestefg, doesn't help :( is there a different way to check my current gateway? (not the config file itself)04:52
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bulmerand find the file called menu.lst04:52
kenhello!04:52
ken Please help:Firefox doesn't remember passwords for mail.yahoo.com. I checked that yahoo.com was not placed in edit>preferences>security>password-exceptions and it is NOT still firefox never asks me when i enter a userid/password whether it wants to remember the password or not (this happens only for yahoo.com, on other sites firefox happily asks me whether it should remember the password or not).04:52
UbuntuN00B_HBGbulmer: thnx! trying it now!04:52
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stefgpsycode: there's a GUI-applet for it in System-Admin-Network04:52
psycodestefg, that's a bit of a problem since i can only access its shell :\04:53
ollekalleanyone have an idea on why I have a 3-pin connector on my new PCI card and how shall use it?04:53
bulmerUbuntuN00B_HBG: also try the mount command and it should show which /dev/haXX is your /  on04:53
StingRayI will check them bulmer. Thanks04:53
stefgpsycode: no, then all you can do is edit the config-file04:53
UbuntuN00B_HBGbulmer: well... did it... (Ive edited menu.lst to change the grub background splash) but I dont find any (hd0,0)...04:54
UbuntuN00B_HBGbulmer: ok04:54
diminthedamhey folks! just installed windows over my ubuntu, as a dual boot. Can someone guide me through correctly restoring the GRUB, whilst presering the windows install, please?04:54
stefgpsycode: but a reboot should fix it, if the gateway is right then04:54
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KDanman!... i can't even seem to get the wired connection working!04:54
psycodestefg, k thx04:55
drivera90So, does anyone here know of any Ubuntu-compatible GameBoy Advance emulators?04:56
indypendehi!04:56
Blissex!grub04:56
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:56
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Blissexdiminthedam: the link above probably helps...04:56
indypendesomeone can help me writing a line in /etc/fstab for an ext3 partition?04:56
UbuntuN00B_HBGbulmer: well... 'mount -l' tells me that /boot is on dev/sda1 but nothing more...04:56
diminthedamubotu: i have read the 1st guide, but i dont know which of thise options keeps the windows booting as well04:56
Blissexindypende: surely someone could, but you could just look for examples.04:56
Blissexdiminthedam: probably all of them :-)04:57
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indypendeBlissex, sorry04:57
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indypendei read a lot of documentation04:57
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indypendebut i don't know04:57
bulmerUbuntuN00B_HBG: and what does your /boot/grub/menu.lst tells you about hd0 ?04:57
Blissexdiminthedam: in any case getting GRUB to boot a MS Windows partition is two lines...04:57
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Blissexindypende: surely you have an 'ext3' line in your existing '/etc/fstab' Just change the first two columns.04:58
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doopsiecan someone teach me how to install gspcav1-20061216.tar.gz 2 from http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca50x/Download/ ? it's suppose to be the driver for the inbult webcam in my laptop. i extracted it already, but cannot seem to find a readme or install file04:58
psycodestefg, a reboot did the job :) thanks!04:58
stefgnp04:58
UbuntuN00B_HBGbulmer: ok... so I should be able to read it out in that file...? ok!04:58
indypendeBlissex, i have the root partition only04:58
Blissexindypende: ahhhhh04:58
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stefgdoopsie: that's simply too complex if you never compiled before...04:59
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diminthedamblissex: ??04:59
doopsiesigh. are there general instructions lying around somewhere?04:59
Blissexindypende: anyhow it will be something like '/dev/SOMETHING /mnt/SOMETHIN2 ext3 default 0 1'04:59
indypendeBlissex, i want the partition to be readeable and writeable for every user04:59
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Two-Si1hello05:00
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goqsaneHello, how can I mount a CD/DVD disk on my Ubuntu Live CD in order to burn things on them? (Nautilius-cd-burner asks me to put the CD into the drive, despite it's already there)05:00
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UbuntuN00B_HBGbulmer: well, it SEEMS like its in (hd0,0), and Ive added the line 'splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/36907-Blu.xpm.gz' but it doesnt work05:01
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indypendeBlissex, i know the bases of fstab05:01
UbuntuN00B_HBGbulmer: the filename is correct05:01
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kenexit05:01
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Blissexindypende: that you cannot do via '/etc/fstab', but via UNIX style permissions.05:02
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RedShiftwhat05:02
RedShiftthere's no /etc/resolv.conf??05:02
ambrosHi all05:02
stefgdoopsie: First of all you've got to set up all the tools necessary (40-50 MB download) then you need all the dev-packages for sdl and sdl itself, set that up... then you need checkinstall... then you need to compile and package up a driver module.. install that... see what i mena?05:02
Infeliz:-F05:02
Blissexindypende: do something like 'chmod a+rwxt' on the top directory in that filesystem.05:02
indypendeBlissex, but there is a lot of options. defaults let only root write on the partition05:02
orangeflywhat's a good intranet IM for ubuntu server....???....05:02
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goqsanewell no ideas as to my problem? ;P05:03
goqsanehow can I mount a CD/DVD disk on my Ubuntu Live CD in order to burn things on them? (Nautilius-cd-burner asks me to put the CD into the drive, despite it's already there)05:03
Blissexindypende: no, not at all. 'defaults' means to let anybody who has permission to write. If the top directory in that filesystem is owned by 'root' and writable only by 'root' then of course only 'root' can write to it.05:03
Blissexgoqsane: you must not mount if you want to write or append.05:04
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Blissexgoqsane: if mounted (append) then unmount it first.05:04
indypendeok05:04
Blissexorangefly: Jabber is pretty cool.05:04
wyatt_earpgreetings ... has any ever experience really really slow login times (like 20sec from providing username to password prompt) ?05:04
RedShiftwyatt_earp: via ssh?05:04
Two-Sixhello05:04
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Blissexwyatt_earp: apparently <wyatt_earp> has :-).05:04
wyatt_earpyeah05:04
orangeflywhere do you download it....???....05:04
goqsaneBlissex, yeah, but what kind of filetype should I specify in the mount command then?05:05
wyatt_earpyes Blissex05:05
Blissexorangefly: use Synaptic or 'aptitude'05:05
Blissexgoqsane: no 'mount' for writing.05:05
RedShiftwyatt_earp: check your dns settings05:05
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goqsaneoh, wait, so what must I do then Blissex ?05:05
goqsaneit's not mounted apparently05:05
goqsanebut it asks me to put a blank CD and doesn't detect it inside I think05:05
Blissexwyatt_earp: anyhow all SSH issues are easy do diagnose with 'ssh -v -v', tells you exactly.05:05
goqsane(as I try to retry)05:05
Blissexgoqsane: then eject and reinsert.05:05
wyatt_earpi'm ssh-ing to the IP address though ... would that still be a problem ?05:06
goqsanedone that :/05:06
goqsanehmm05:06
indypendeBlissex, if i mount the partition in /media/data , how can i make /media data readable and writeable for normal user?05:06
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Blissexgoqsane: otherwise you may have *two* writers and Nautilus is using the wrong one.05:06
orangeflyty....05:06
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Blissexindypende: as I mentioned, 'chmod a+rwxt /media/data'05:06
RedShiftwyatt_earp: no but check the dns settings on the remote host (the host you're connecting to)05:06
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illu45hi05:06
wyatt_earpok05:06
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stefgindypende: sudo chmod 777 /media/data05:07
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stefgthis means anyone can delete your data05:07
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goqsanenope still doesn't see the disc and I have chosen the right burner (I only have one)05:07
goqsane:/05:07
elyonGood morning.05:07
Blissexstefg: that's why I added 't' to the permissions.05:07
indypendethanks all05:07
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Two-Sixhello05:07
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wyatt_earpright now ... no DNS is working on that system Blissex05:07
indypendethanks Blissex stefg05:08
elyonCould someone please point me in the right direction to get my 3D card performing better in Ubuntu?  Right now even Google Earth is too slow to be usable.05:08
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Two-SixI need help with madwifi, does anybody her know anything about this05:08
Blissexelyon: bad news -- it is only feasible if you got NVIDIA or a very few other models.05:08
wyatt_earperr ... not working i mean Blissex05:08
goqsaneoh well, I'll try playing around05:08
pouderStreamguys any clue how to install flashplayer in opera.In FF is working fine. rel: EdgyEft05:08
goqsanemaybe I'll plug it in as master05:08
goqsaneand not slave05:08
goqsaneor something05:08
goqsane:/05:08
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elyonBlissex, so my Radeon is pretty useless in Linux?05:08
Two-Sixin fact in need help with lots of stuff05:08
BlissexTwo-Six: try #wireless, but MADwifi is a bit of a mess.05:08
Blissexelyon: no, just a bit more complicated to setup.05:09
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elyonah05:09
Two-Sixwhy do you say its a mess05:09
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Blissexelyon: the ATI drivers for GNU/Linux are not quite as good as the NVIDIA ones.05:09
Blissexelyon: anyhow look at this:05:09
Blissex!ati05:09
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:09
AoirthoirI LOVE UBUNTU!05:09
AoirthoirJust thought I would let yall know05:09
Two-SixI mean it totally defeats me, and it does seem to be pretty hard to get it to work and can be dangerous05:09
elyonThanks, Blissex.05:09
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Two-Sixhow do you leave and join another channel?05:11
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LjLTwo-Six: /part, and /join #channel05:11
Two-Sixthanks /part05:11
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LjLstefg: no, that's used to kick a random user. or at least that's what the -offtopic topic often says05:12
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stefgyup, that's what i was thinking of05:13
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shriphaniguys i notice a few changes in source-o-matic05:13
stefgshriphani: me, too....05:14
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shriphaniwhere is the security.ubuntu.com repository ?05:14
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LjLuhm... at security.ubuntu.com?05:14
LjLis that a trick question? :P05:14
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Infelizlol05:14
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Infeliz!sources05:14
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource05:14
Infeliz!easysource05:15
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:15
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shriphaniLjL, i didnt see that in source o matic05:15
k0anyone know how to change the gnome-panel default names like "applications" "places"05:15
k0??05:15
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maynardhello all05:15
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KDanok, so i can't seem to get the wired connection working either. for some reason the light remains orange at the back of my laptop. dhclient of course finds nothing. iconfig looks fine, except it of course doesn't have the dhcp details...05:15
LjLshriphani: well, yeah, it misses -updates too for that matter. i think that should be fixed05:15
KDanthis is a connection that would work fine if i was in windows, so not quite sure why it should just not work under ubuntu05:16
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shriphanimy sources.list disappeared when i was trying to compile ffmpeg from source05:16
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shriphanisource-o-matic offers 6 repos now05:16
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LjLshriphani: well   deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse05:17
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LjL(if you have universe and multiverse, that is)05:17
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n2diyk0: yes, right click on them, and select prefrences.05:17
shriphanierm i am using dapper05:17
maynardDoes any one have time to point me in the right direction for getting dual displays to work on the live CD?05:17
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n2diyk0: yes, right click on them, and select preferences.05:17
stefgKDan: it was found that due to a timing problem during boot, the dhcp-request sometimes is mad before the interface is up... try a manual 'sudo dhclient' and see if you get a lease then05:17
hikenboothello all---can anyone tell me what the advantage of using ltsp instead of just xnest sessions thru X window05:17
k0n2diy:there no options to select prefences05:18
KDanstefg: nerp. it tries a bunch of diferent "interval"s and then fails05:18
KDanall the while through it complains that "Network is down"05:18
k0but there is edit menu05:18
tale_with vim using Fedora it remembers the last place I edited in a file and when I reopen the file, it puts the cursor back on the last line that I edited.  Does anyone know what option this is that I need to enable?  Ubuntu doesn't enable it by default.05:18
k0but that doesnt have a way of editing the names05:18
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n2diyk0: are you using Dapper?05:19
k0just to select what u want see to in the menu05:19
k0no edgy05:19
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indypendeBlissex, hi05:19
kbg_20hi! i just installed edgy..and am not happy with firefox 2..would like to downgrade to 1.5.. downloaded the tar and running from mozilla site. extracting and running the firefox executable inside that folder shows up the following error : "./run-mozilla.sh: 424: ./firefox-bin: not found" while firefox-bin is well and truly there.. whats happening? :-/ am using edgy amd6405:19
indypendeBlissex, i do the sudo chmod 777 /media/data05:19
n2diyk0: ok that explains it, another reason to stick with Dapper.05:20
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k0thought u could use gconf-editor05:20
indypendeBlissex, but i can't write on the directory as normal user05:20
k0but cant find anything helpfull05:20
Blissexindypende: it was almost the same but better to do 'sudo chmod a+rwxt /media/data'05:20
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shriphanierm can some benevolent user pastebin me his sources.list (dapper)05:20
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[pwned] HELP!!!!05:20
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Blissexindypende: note that you said the filesystem was 'ext3'...05:21
stefg!easysource | shriphani05:21
ubotushriphani: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:21
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indypendeBlissex, ext305:21
KDanstefg: no other ideas?05:21
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diminthedamBlissex: i reinstalled the grub, but now i cant get windows to load05:21
Blissexindypende: so it *must* work as indicated.05:21
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scheurihi all05:21
Blissexdiminthedam: two lines:05:21
stefgKDan: firmware or driver not there?05:21
[pwned] how do i upgrade to 6.10 if i dont have a disk?05:21
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shriphanistefg, erm i miss a few repos using source-o-matic05:21
diminthedamblissex: what does that mean?05:21
shriphanilike security.blah blah05:21
k0blissex:not pointing to the right windows patiton05:22
KDanhmm05:22
scheurianyone know "the" alternative for Konversation within Gnome?05:22
diminthedamblissex: ok, but how do i change it?05:22
meng<scheuri> anyone know "the" alternative for Konversation within Gnome? -->xchat05:22
scheurimeng: thanks05:22
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Blissexdiminthedam: 'title MS Windows' and 'chainload (hdN)+1'05:22
Blissexdiminthedam: 'title MS Windows' and 'chainloader (hdN)+1'05:22
stefgshriphani: dapper or edgy?05:22
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diminthedamblissex: where do i do this? in grub command line?05:22
scheurianyone know if there is a chance to "convert" all mails and structure of Kmail to Evolution?05:23
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Blissexdiminthedam: '/boot/grub/menu.lst'05:23
tale_[pwned] , change /etc/apt/sources.list so that all occurrences of dapper are edgy.  Then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:23
shriphanistefg dapper05:23
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Vegeta^Does anyone know a good website filtering software? I tried seaching the Synaptic, but didn't find any.05:23
stefgk05:23
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kureihi, my java enterprise edition wont continue with its setup after executing the .bin... how do i go about?05:23
tale_Vegeta^,  squid05:23
shadowhywindi was wondering is there a easy way to upgrade from 32 to 64bit, without a full reinstall?05:23
n2diyscheuri: did you try import?05:23
LjLVegeta^, what kind of 'filtering'?05:23
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kbg_20shadowhywind, no05:23
tale_any vi experts in here?05:24
mnoirtale - yes but you might like #vim05:24
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scheurin2diy: as in import functions of Evolution? last time I checked there was no such option within Ubuntu 6.06 and its evolution...but I will check again05:24
Vegeta^LjL: Just blocking some certain websites (with password).05:24
stefgshriphani: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39336/ but point it away from the german mirrors... we are busy 'nuff over here :-)05:24
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BelisarivsHi. Could anyone help me with Prism wifi card?05:25
n2diyscheuri: ok, I don't use Evolution, so it was just a guess.05:25
tale_mnoir, I just want to know what setting to have vim remember the last edit in a file so when I reopen the file it puts the cursor back on that line05:25
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drivera90So what do I do on Ubuntu when I want to game?05:25
shriphanistefg, so i change the german thingies to us or something ?05:25
mnoirtale - i don't know - more reason to go to #vim :)05:25
shriphanilike de to us05:25
blizzkidHello all. I still didn't manage to get my sound working after googling for a month, and trying every single suggested "solution". Anyone in here could help me out?05:25
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scheurin2diy: ah, okay...well...I am using maildir...so...but i have quite a good structure within Kmail which I dont want to loose05:25
kbg_20hi! how do i run firefox 1.5 in edgy? I dont like ff 2 at all :(05:25
stefgshriphani: simply edit out all the de. prefixes05:25
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shriphaniok stefg05:26
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elyonWell, Blissex - no luck with that.  Followed the instructions but still doesn't work... thanks, though.05:26
timbobstevehey all05:26
n2diyscheuri: ok, I don't use Evolution, so good luck.05:26
tritium!sound > blizzkid05:26
scheurin2diy: thanks...;)05:26
Infelizthis channel dont work...million questions at the sam time05:26
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BelisarivsCould anyone help me with Prism wifi card?05:26
ZaggynlWhat directories make up the linux OS?05:26
diminthedamblissex: where in menu.1st do i put those lines?05:26
LjL!dansguardian | Vegeta^, although it doesn't seem to do precisely what you want05:27
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ubotudansguardian: Web content filtering. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0.6-antivirus-6.3.8-1-1 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 1464 kB05:27
elyonZaggy, all of them :)05:27
blizzkidtritiu: thanks, but I've tried all of that too05:27
Blissexdiminthedam: at the end usually.05:27
Zaggynlelyon, O.o apart from /home05:27
blizzkidtritium: thanks, but I've tried all of that too05:27
kbg_20Zaggynl, what makes you ask that may i know?05:27
mnoirZaggynl: these -> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/05:27
elyonkbg - sounds like he's going to write a clevel "virus" that will delete those directorys? :)05:27
[pwned] tale_: it didnt work. i have a copy d/l but it wont run?05:27
BelisarivsCould anyone help me with Prism wifi card?05:28
kbg_20elyon, interesting idea ;) :D05:28
KDanok, where are the modules i can insmod, on the ubuntu cd?05:28
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tale_[pwned] , are you running dapper now?05:28
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LjLVegeta^: also i think most "normal" proxies will allow you to blacklist sites, though i don't know how many will let you set a password to still access them if you have it05:28
[pwned] yeah05:28
orangeflywhat's the best jabber client for a windows machine....???....05:28
Vegeta^LjL: I tried that, but couldn't succesfully install it due to some dependency problems.. Does Squid filter websites that way?05:29
kbg_20orangefly, i would say PSI05:29
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Zaggynlkbg_20, friend of mine wonders how much ubuntu takes05:29
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Zaggynlmnoir, thanks05:29
aphexianmorning05:29
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kbg_20Zaggynl, you mean a default install?05:29
Zaggynlkbg_20, yeah05:29
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waterpeareh, a few gigs05:29
LjLVegeta^: squid probably also makes the coffee for you... if you can configure it ;)05:29
kbg_20Zaggynl, around 2-2.5 gb i would say05:29
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[pwned] tale_:how do i change to edgy?05:29
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Zaggynlkbg_20, ah okay05:30
tale_[pwned] , please answer my question.  Are you running dapper right now05:30
stefgupgrade05:30
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stefg!upgrade05:30
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes05:30
[pwned] tale_: yes05:30
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LjLVegeta^: proxies i've tried are wwwoffle and middleman. i think middleman has a few of that kind of options, and is relatively easy to setup, but IIRC it was a bit quirky05:30
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tale_[pwned] , check out the instructions ubotu just mentioned05:30
n2diy!downgrade05:31
ubotuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.05:31
sinisterguyhow do you blacklist modules in ubuntu?05:31
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LjLUbotu, tell sinisterguy about blacklist | sinisterguy, see the private message from Ubotu05:31
novaneed help with mic. Recording program states, my audio capture setting are invalid, and to correct them. It was working before, now it wont. I checked to make sure my mic is on. Still nothing...05:31
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[pwned] tale_: i am thanks05:31
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Vegeta^LjL: Hehe ok, I'll try that. Is there 3rd party softwares for linx that can block?05:31
Zaggynlkbg_20, is that including swap and all?05:31
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novaneed help with mic. Recording program states, my audio capture setting are invalid, and to correct them. It was working before, now it wont. I checked to make sure my mic is on. Still nothing...05:31
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kbg_20Zaggynl, no...05:31
Zaggynlhmm05:31
stefg!repeat | nova05:31
ubotunova: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience05:31
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scheurianyone ever tried to convert KMail (mails and structure in maildir format) to Evolution?05:32
vincenzHello everyone05:32
waterpearVegeta^, technically, pretty much all software is third party05:32
LjLVegeta^, possibly. i normally just stay in the safe realm of the repositories.05:32
kbg_20Zaggynl, exclude swap and boot..comes to 2-2.5 gb approx05:32
waterpearin linux05:32
sinisterguyLjL: thanks05:32
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LjLand yeah, waterpear has a point ;)05:32
vincenzHello, Anyone know how I can get tvout(s-video) to work with an ATI card? Additionally, if I want sound, do I still need to use the headphones or can I also send this through the s-video cable?05:32
Zaggynlkbg_20, ah okay05:32
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Blissexvincenz: bad news usually.05:33
vincenzBlissex: oh?05:33
Blissexvincenz: look at the Gatos project though.05:33
aphexian[vincenz]  what kind of outputs does the card have?05:33
shadowhywindisn't s-video just video no sound05:33
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vincenzOk, so how do I get image onto my s-video output?05:33
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aphexianyou should be able to run an s-video cable from your tv to your ati card05:34
aphexianthats what i'm doing too05:34
aphexianbut you won't get sound05:34
shadowhywindi would think treat it as a external monitor and just cycle through monitors05:34
pupciazsssa05:34
vincenzaphexian: what do you need to do to set it up?05:34
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maynardhi all05:35
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aphexianall i did was set up my computer as normal with a montiro05:35
aphexianmonitor05:35
diminthedamblissex: like this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39338/05:36
maynardIs there a relatively easy way to get dual displays working using the AMD64 live cd and an ATI card?05:36
aphexianthen i turned the system off and set up my tv with the s-video out05:36
Blissexdiminthedam: you need just the second line and split over two. and with "n" replaced by the number of the MS Windows partition.05:36
Blissexdiminthedam: wait a second for a better exple.05:37
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vincenzaphexian: could I see a copy of your xorg.conf?05:37
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aphexianvincenz: i didn't change the xorg file at all05:38
vincenzaphexian: not even to get two monitors?05:38
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aphexianohhhhh, sorry, i'm not running two monitors05:38
Blissexdiminthedam: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/BootMenu#How_to_add_Windows_entry_into_GRUB_menu05:38
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aphexianmember:vincenz i'm just running ubuntu throught my tv05:39
vincenzaphexian: oh right, so how do you switch to tv mode?05:39
vincenzoh!05:39
vincenzBut how do you switch the card to the tvout (s-video)?05:39
diminthedamblissex: ok, last question,05:39
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diminthedamblissex: how do i find what nuber the wind part is?05:39
Blissexdiminthedam: anyhow you need to put '(hdN,M)+1' not use '+1' on the 'chainloader' line, just to be sure.05:40
aphexianvincenz: i didn't have to switch anything on the card. once the s-video cable was connected to the tv, i booted it up and everything worked fine05:40
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Blissexdiminthedam: do 'fdisk -l /dev/hd? | grep NTFS'05:40
Blissexdiminthedam: do 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd? | grep NTFS'05:40
BelisarivsCould anyone help me with Prism wifi card?05:41
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vincenzalright05:41
vincenzb05:41
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BlissexBelisarivs: it should ''just work''. Try #wireless too.05:41
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Blissexdiminthedam: what does that command say?05:41
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jothCan someone help me05:42
jothplease?05:42
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diminthedamblissex: no response05:42
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mitch__hey guys, i wonder if someone could help me with a problem...i just installed the kde desktop and my wireless connection won;t work anymore...any ideas?05:42
Blissexdiminthedam: you don't have a MS Windows partition :-)05:42
Blissexdiminthedam: just in your imagination :-)05:42
aphexianjoth: do you have a question?05:42
maynardIs there a relatively easy way to get dual displays working using the AMD64 live cd and an ATI card please?05:42
diminthedamblisex: but i do!05:42
Blissexdiminthedam: try to do then 'sudo fdisk -l' and paste the reslt to the pastebin.05:42
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jothI'm trying to partition my hard disk to install Windows on it, but I'm not sure how to without losing all the data on my laptop at the moment.05:43
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Blissexmaynard: yes.05:43
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diminthedamblissex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39340/05:43
jothI only have one partition at the moment, which I can't change the size of while it's mounted.05:43
Blissexjoth: if the disk has no free areas, bad news. It can be done, but you should not try to do it without a lot more knowledge.05:43
maynardBlissex:  :D  Can you point me in the right direction?05:43
jothDamn05:43
meng<joth> I only have one partition at the moment, which I can't change the size of while it's mounted. -->gparted live cd?05:44
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aphexianjoth: i've never had to do that but this link might help: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/05/08/dual-boot-laptop.html05:44
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kbg_20meng,  but joth will still lose data right?05:44
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jothIf I reduce the size of this partition, will it lose any of the data on it?05:44
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ward_you can resize the partitions05:44
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Blissexdiminthedam: it is partition '/dev/hda3' and it is a FAT32 partition.05:44
meng<kbg_20> meng,  but joth will still lose data right? --> safer method is using a proprietary tool05:44
ozfroghello - can i set the " numbers lock " button to ON at boot -time somewhere?05:45
J-_my cpu is running at 50c, is that good? -.-05:45
J-_I don't think it is, but i could be wrong05:45
Blissexjoth: if you like to live dangerously, use a liveCD ad <meng> suggests and resize it.05:45
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mengesp with NTFS is concerned05:45
mitch__hey guys, i wonder if someone could help me with a problem...i just installed the kde desktop and my wireless connection won;t work anymore...any ideas?05:45
derFlowhat command do i need to start gnuboy-sdl (is the pakage name)?05:45
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ward_mitch__; don't repeat05:45
kbg_20meng, exactly.. with gparted/fdisk resizing WILL involve losing data right?05:45
Blissexdiminthedam: so you would have 'chainloader '(hd0,2)+1'05:45
Blissexdiminthedam: so you would have 'chainloader (hd0,2)+1'05:45
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Blissexkbg_20: not necessarily, but it is rather risky. Not totally reliable.05:46
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meng<kbg_20> meng, exactly.. with gparted/fdisk resizing WILL involve losing data right? --> kinda forgot parted use anyway, i've been using Partition Magic instead05:46
kbg_20Blissex, hmm..ok05:46
ward_mitch__: we need to know if its been detected type ifconfig and paste it to pastebin05:46
kbg_20meng, ok :)05:46
sephirot1hi, i have 2pcs connected together, but when I type ifconfig -a i cannot see the ethernet device.05:46
sephirot1Whats up with that? damaged hardware?05:46
Blissexkbg_20: 'parted' and 'gparted' will try to shrink the filesystem before shrinking the partition, but that is a bit tricky.05:47
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Blissexkbg_20: it often works well. Depends on the filesystem.05:47
sephirot1anyone? :(05:47
mengBlissex> kbg_20: 'parted' and 'gparted' will try to shrink the filesystem before shrinking the partition, but that is a bit tricky. --> start praying if ya do?05:47
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mitch__ward : is there any reason that would change from installing the kde desktop...it was working fine before i installed it?05:47
Blissexmeng: yes... :-)05:47
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derFlowhat command do i need to start gnuboy-sdl (is the pakage name)?05:48
derFlowhat command do i need to start gnuboy-sdl (is the pakage name)?05:48
derFlowhat command do i need to start gnuboy-sdl (is the pakage name)?05:48
ward_mitch__; perhaps you need to configure the device again through ifconfig?05:48
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kbg_20I have one question about write access by non-root users to mounted fat partitions... I tried using "rw,users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true" as mount options in fstab but did not work..?05:48
Henry|Hey there guys05:48
Henry|Is anyone here not busy at the moment?05:48
Henry|I'm finally getting into a linux based distribution after sitting on the idea for a year or two05:48
Henry|and I decided to go with Ubuntu as my first05:48
BlissexderFlo: usually, repeat your question not more often than every 5 minutes...05:48
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vincenzaphexian: So you're saying that if you plug in the s-video cable it works auttomatically? I'd still like to see your xorg.conf if possible05:48
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kbg_20Henry|, great! a warm welcome :)05:48
derFloBlissex: nobody wants to help me :(05:48
androxxlhello can someone help me with apt-get update I got this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39319/05:49
Henry|Thanks, so anyways, here is my problem05:49
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sephirot1Henry|: you took quite a long time sitting on it :P i just closed my eyes and dived into it :)05:49
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Henry|After the initial splash screen after I hit (Where it says Start or install Ubuntu)05:49
ambimomhenry: just talk in here LOL05:49
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BlissexderFlo: you have to be patient and perhaps add more details to your question.05:49
Henry|it freezes on the loading screen05:49
Henry|where the bar bounces to the left and the right05:49
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diminthedamblissex: like this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39341/05:49
katarzynakomercyjna05:49
derFloBlissex: what details should you need?05:49
erUSULandroxxl: can you connect to other sites?05:49
Henry|I'm using an AMD 4400+ X2 64-Bit05:49
ambimomhenry: after you press install?05:49
meng<Henry|> where the bar bounces to the left and the right --> are you on a high?05:49
androxxlyes05:49
Henry|I've tried the 32 bit and the 64 bit install05:49
derFloBlissex: i ONLY want to know the command to start gnuboy-sdl..05:49
Henry|Meng: Nope05:50
mitch__ward: seems to be detected ok...there is no Network manager that come up though in kde05:50
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waterbearderFlo, you want the command "sdlgnuboy"05:50
Henry|Ambimom: It's directly after the initial splash screen, but before you choose a language05:50
Blissexdiminthedam: you don't need the 'root' and 'savedefault' lines, perhaps 'makeactive'.05:50
siv0xCan someone tell me the alsa or amixer command to set my Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS to my default sound card?05:50
ambimomhenry: the problem may be 64 bit05:50
derFlowaterbear: maybe ill check it05:50
Henry|I tried both images05:50
derFlowaterbear: yes thats it thanks05:50
waterbearderFlo, I prefer visualboyadvance for gameboy emulation though05:50
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meng<siv0x> Can someone tell me the alsa or amixer command to set my Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS to my default sound card? --> disable offending card in BIOS05:50
ambimomhenry: have you tried loading just the live cd?  what happens?05:51
diminthedamblissez: ok, replaced with 'makeactive'. will try a reboot05:51
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Henry|By livecd, do you mean the CD on which I burned the .iso onto?05:51
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ambimomhenry: if the live cd works, then it should install05:51
siv0xmeng: its easier for me to do it this way, i just cant remember the cmd.05:51
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ambimomhenry: just try to use the live cd ...change boot and boot into live cd05:51
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ozfroghello - can i set the " numbers lock " button to ON at boot -time somewhere?05:51
ambimomhenry: then try the applications05:52
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siv0xmeng: i'm not really having much of a problem untill i try to use my headphones.05:52
Henry|Ambimom: When you say livecd, are you reffering to the CD I burned the image onto?05:52
Music_Shuffleyeah05:52
meng<siv0x> meng: its easier for me to do it this way, i just cant remember the cmd. --> so the case is you got SB card and you have mobo with sound?05:52
ambimomhenry: yes that's a live cd05:52
ambimomhenry: if you can use the applications before installing, try it05:52
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Henry|Ambimom: Alrighty, that's what I did. Let me list the steps I did to boot from it leading up to the freeze :)05:52
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siv0xmeng: well, actually my sound is fine, just when i use headphones/mic its like they arent even plugged in.05:52
ambimomhenry: first see if you can use the applications....it may not be compatible with your system05:53
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ambimomhenry: other linuxes might be better for 64 bit amd05:53
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Henry|Ambimom: I restarted the computer and pressed F8 to bring up the bios. I then chose to boot from my optical disk in which my live cd resides in. That brought me to the splash screen of Ubuntu. After I hit "Start or install ubuntu" it freezes at the next loading screen05:53
meng<siv0x> checked the sound panel?05:53
Henry|Ambimom: How can I use the applications before installing?05:53
meng<siv0x> is all the offending volumes up and not muted?05:54
ambimomhenry: yes you can use the applications before installing05:54
siv0xmeng: were can i check this at, all i've checked is the alsamixer in terminal.05:54
Henry|Ambimom: how?05:54
TheodorHenry, reset your bios. I had that problem.05:54
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TheodorYour screen is turning freaky white, yes?05:54
meng<siv0x> meng: were can i check this at, all i've checked is the alsamixer in terminal. --> i was refering to the GUI sound mixer, either in Gnome or KDE05:54
Henry|Theodor: It stopped freezing at the loading screen where the bar went from the left to the right?05:54
ambimomhenry: see the applications icon at the top of the screen?05:54
Music_ShuffleEdgy 64 works fine for almost everything. ./Shrug.05:55
Henry|Theodor: With the 32 bit installation the colors are normal but it freezes afte rthe splash screen. On the 64 bit installation the colors are black and white05:55
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Henry|Ambimom: I'm currently in windows05:55
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Henry|I'm trying to install it on my second hard drive05:55
siv0xmeng: oh. no i've not checked that.05:55
ambimomhenry:  you can't05:55
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katarzyna05:55
ambimomhenry:  you can dual boot on your primary05:55
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katarzynaaplikacja05:55
Music_ShuffleYou can if you change boot order, can't you?05:55
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ambimomhenry:  first see if ubuntu is compatible with your system...boot into cd again and try the applications05:56
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diminthedamblissex: that worked a charm! thanks a million!05:56
Henry|Ambimom: I can't get to the desktop05:56
Henry|I can only get to the splash screen05:56
ambimomozfrog:  he's noobie05:56
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Blissexdiminthedam: good, good!05:56
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ambimomhenry: are you using cd? or image of cd?05:57
ozfrogambimom I.C just arived05:57
Music_ShuffleHenry|, so when you boot the LiveCD, you only get to the splash screen?05:57
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Henry|I'm using a CD05:57
Henry|Music: Yup05:57
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ambimomhenry:  you change the boot order of your computer?05:57
Music_ShuffleErr...stupid question perhaps, but how long have you waited?05:57
Henry|Ambimom: If you mean by booting from my optical drive (so itll boot from disk) yes05:57
Music_ShuffleIf he hadn't, he wouldn't see the splash...05:57
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Henry|Is there anyway to boot on my second hard drive so I can install Ubuntu on that one?05:58
ambimomhenry: and you can't get to the desktop?05:58
Henry|Ambimom: Nope05:58
Henry|Ambimom: I presume that is after the splash screen05:58
siv0xmeng: would it be something like asoundconf list  then asound set-default-card <card> ?05:58
Music_ShuffleYes05:58
ambimomhenry: then your iso is defective or you can't use ubuntu on your system05:58
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javbInstalled Xgl/Compiz .. didnt like it.. removed it and placed the backup files (xorg.conf and /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom) to their original place. but when starting GDM, it says "No servers were defined in the configuration file and XDMCP was disable. This can only be a configuration error. GDM has started a single server for you. You should log in and fix the configuration. Note that automatic and timed logins are disable." Any idea why this is appearing. I hi05:58
Music_ShuffleSplash --> Desktop05:58
javbt ENTER on that message and starts normally. just with a weird login manager. (Ubuntu Edgy)05:58
Henry|Music: Ah05:58
calvarezubotu, flash05:59
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:59
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meng<siv0x> meng: would it be something like asoundconf list  then asound set-default-card <card> ? --> go ask someone else then, i could help in GUI space though05:59
ambimomhenry: if you're in the desktop....try to use applications05:59
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Music_ShuffleHenry|, and you've tried >1 disk and you're burning the iso's correctly?05:59
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Henry|Ambimom: Yeah, no luck there because I can't get to the desktop05:59
Music_ShuffleHe can't get into the desktop...05:59
martosshow can i disable the check size_t is signed while running configure?05:59
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Henry|Music: I first accidently used a CD image with a DVD. That didn't boot at all. Then I tried the 32 bit image. That froze after splash screen during loading06:00
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Henry|Music: I then tried the 64 bit image with a CD06:00
Henry|Music: Same freezing point, but black and white colors06:00
Music_ShuffleHmm.06:00
Henry|Music: My CPU is a AMD 4400+ X2 6406:00
siv0xmeng: its fine, i got it, but were can i locate the GUI space at?06:00
Music_ShuffleHow long have you waited at the splash btw?06:00
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apixelatedofficehello, I'm having a hard time with my sound configuration... I have what looks like a fancy sound card in the back... and a mic and phone in the front of my computer.  Anyways, I'll start with a simple question... which is going to utilize my sound for "live mixing" on my computer?... device via 8237 (Alsa mixer) ... OR realtek ALC850 rev 0 (OSS mixer)... I don't care about drivers or anything, I just want to know which devic06:00
apixelatedofficee can "do the most"... like, which device is more expensive and better technology.  thanks in advance.06:00
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Henry|Music: You mean to wait for the counter to go down to 0 if I dont touch anything?06:00
meng<siv0x>Gnome or KDE?06:00
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Henry|:D06:01
Henry|Sorry for the hassle06:01
Music_ShuffleHenry|, like...if you click, nothing happens as well?06:01
siv0xmeng: KDE06:01
ambimomhenry: it's probably 64 bit that is causing problem, but others have installed it okay...i just not able to help06:01
mluser-workanybody know when ubuntu plans to update clamav, mine has been complaining for two weeks that its out of date06:02
ambimomhenry:  good luck though06:02
Henry|Music: Just so we're on the same page (I may not be)06:02
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Henry|Thanks06:02
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TheodorHenry|, have you downloaded the AMD version ?06:02
meng<siv0x>lower right hand, there's this speaker icon? isnt?06:02
Henry|Music: The splash screen is when it says "Check CD for errors" or "Memory" or "Start or Install Ubuntu" right?06:02
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ambimomtheodor:  yikes, that's probably it!06:02
Henry|Theodor: Yup06:02
Henry|Yeah, I did06:02
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ward_Henry|: you can always try gentoo06:02
meng<siv0x>right clicky on that and pop the option for the mixer06:02
Music_ShuffleDoesn't really matter, the edgy kernel is the !generic one.06:02
TheodorMan, your problem is the exact copy of mine when I was trying to install Ubuntu.06:02
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Henry|Theodor: Heh06:03
liberviscoWhere is the gnashplugin in Ubuntu gnash package?06:03
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Henry|Theodor: What's your CPU?06:03
Music_ShuffleHenry|, have you tried...the alternate install CD?06:03
siv0xmeng: k i found it06:03
Henry|Music: Alternate install CD?06:03
liberviscoor.. how do I install gnash in firefox?06:03
TheodorAll I did is I reset the bios, it was something that has to do with the resolution.06:03
Music_ShuffleYes.06:03
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Henry|Music: I'm not familiar with it06:03
siv0xmeng: any control i need to turn up just to get my headset working right? or lower maybe too06:03
TheodorIntel Centrino 1.7 GHZ.06:03
Henry|Theodor: I am running in wide screen, if that's making any difference06:03
Music_ShuffleThere's an alternate install that's primarily text-based if I'm not mistaken.06:03
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Swedehow do I configure ubuntu to send audio to the coaxial s/pdif contact?06:03
Music_ShuffleI'd say try that one, you might be able to get that working.06:03
Henry|Will do06:03
meng<siv0x> check if wave and master is up06:03
TheodorHenry|, my installation WORKED when I resotred it to wide screen ;p06:03
Music_Shuffle:)06:03
apixelatedofficeaside from the drivers, which is better technology... my realtek OSS mixer ... OR my via ALSA mixer?06:04
Henry|Theodor: Heh06:04
TheodorWhen I had it smaller, it never worked.06:04
Henry|Theodor: What was your exact problem, CPU, and ISO used?06:04
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Henry|Theodor: Did you get a black and white screen when using a 64 bit iso, even though your CPU is 64 bit?06:04
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TheodorI was installing the 32bit.06:04
Henry|ah06:05
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Henry|What CPU do you have?06:05
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siv0xmeng: they are06:05
TheodorWhatever I chose, I had my computer crash and the monitor went white with freaky effects.06:05
Henry|yikes06:05
TheodorIntel Centrino 1.7 GHZ "laptop"06:05
Henry|32 bit?06:05
Music_Shufflelol06:05
Theodorouip06:05
gansinhoplease, how do I save the output of a command in a .txt file, for example the output of dmesg, which is very large06:05
Music_Shuffle!pastebin06:05
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:05
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Swedehow do I configure ubuntu to use the digital sound output?06:06
Theodorgansinho, use |06:06
n2diygansinho: dmesg is a text file.06:06
meng<siv0x> is the speaker icon below each one has no big cross on it?06:06
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Henry|So will it be possibile to boot up Ubuntu in Disc D, while Windows is in Disc C?06:06
Swedehmm, perhaps i should get some drivers for my motherboard...06:06
meng<siv0x>sry, above06:06
Henry|so I won't have to partition anything06:06
TheodorHenry|, yes. That's what I did.06:06
siv0xmeng: i'm having no trouble with sound, accept when i use my headset i get a little static, and my mic doesnt work06:07
Henry|Theodor: Como?06:07
Music_ShuffleAssuming yo uhave enough space, yeah.06:07
TheodorComo ?06:07
slacker_nlgansinho: dmesg > output saved or dmesg | less06:07
Henry|Music: shouldn't be a problem06:07
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Henry|Theodor: How :p06:07
TheodorHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA06:07
Henry|Theodor: Is it pretty straight forward after the splash screen?06:07
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TheodorHenry|, yes.06:07
Henry|Theodor: Will it just ask me what drive I want to install it to?06:07
gansinhon2diy, I want to do something like "dmesg xyz name" and doing that, instead of seeing the output in the terminal, it would save for me in a txt file named "name"06:07
Henry|Theodor: The only OS I have installed are just windows and mac06:07
meng<siv0x> meng: i'm having no trouble with sound, accept when i use my headset i get a little static, and my mic doesnt work --> do the same, cept this time for the Mic options06:07
MaheanuuAre there any Raid5 people in here this morning?06:07
Theodoryeah baby06:07
Henry|Alrighty06:07
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Theodoryou need 2 have 2 though. One for swap, the other for the root /06:07
Gacomenthello06:07
Theodoryou need to have 2***06:08
Henry|Absolutely no idea what you mean by that, but alright06:08
Theodorsorry, my finger tips are freezing.06:08
n2diygansinho: look in /var/log and you should see dmesg stored there.06:08
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meng<siv0x> do keep the mute on tho, no one loves echos, cept maybe hippies on a high06:08
gansinhon2diy, thanks06:08
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n2diyganadist: nada06:08
siv0xmeng: lmao06:08
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TheodorAny of you know where I can find a decent C++ compiler ?06:08
LjL!gcc | Theodor06:09
ubotuTheodor: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:09
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siv0xmeng: not sure, um can i just pm you and we can talk about this, this is so annoying06:09
novaOk, my recording program captures my voice, but in teamspeak no one hears me...? any thoughts?06:09
fromvegaYo guys06:09
GacomentBoy, what's the difference between Xgl and Xgl CVS?06:09
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Theodormewh, I want to write C++ programs ...06:09
MaheanuuI am trying to get dapper to recognize a bios created raid5 array, and it isn't showing a multidisk06:09
LjLTheodor: GCC is the GNU Compiler Collection, including a C compiler, a C++ compilers and others, and it's certainly considered much more than 'decent' by most06:09
vincenzyes it is06:09
TheodorI see, thanks.06:09
vincenzespecially from 4.006:09
n2diyGacoment: CVS stands for Concurrent Versioning System, it is the latest version.06:09
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fromvegaAnybody knows the comand with the "alt" key, to make a "?" ?  eg. release "alt" + [somenumber] 06:09
LjLTheodor: all programs you have on your system that were written in C++ were compiled using GCC (specifically, G++ is the GCC C++ compiler)06:10
TheodorInteresting.06:10
n2diyfromvega, google fo ascii codes.06:10
n2diyfromvega, google for ascii codes.06:10
Theodorfromvega, go to your Character map06:11
Theodoryou can find everything there.06:11
Gacomentn2diy, is it stable?06:11
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n2diyGacoment: maybe, it is experimental, bugs get fixed quickly.06:12
fromvegaI'm asking it coz my keyboard, after the ubuntu installation, the key "?/" is not working, just this key, this is not the keyboard coz i've tested some, and appears the same problem. Anyone knows a solution for it?06:12
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TheodorOkay, this is a really stupid question but how can I download GCC?06:12
Gacomentn2diy, very well, thanks :D06:12
TheodorI go to mirror sites and then what ?06:12
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meng<siv0x>~uguuuuuu, see PM06:13
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mascanhoanyone using macmenu applet for gnome ?06:13
n2diyTheodor: click on system-admin-synaptic, search for gcc, mark it for install, and then click on apply.06:13
yccheokhi, anyone here familiar with launchpad?06:14
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Theodorn2diy, my Ubuntu box is not connected to the Internet.06:14
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uuhi, can anybody help: kernel crash when doing suspend to ram _second_ time (possibly hotplug cpu problem?) ?06:14
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n2diyTheodor: Bummer.06:14
calvarezquestion! after installing the Adobe Flash plugin for firefox, firefox now crashes whenever I go to a flash site (I tried youtube and homestarrunner). Any ideas?06:14
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krissiema06:15
krisjest ktos  polski06:15
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LjLTheodor: it's explained in the page Ubotu gave you. you need to install the build-essential package.06:15
LjLUbotu, tell Theodor about software | Theodor, see the private message from Ubotu06:15
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TooR4uhi i want to change my samba passwd ... But it is displaying the error ""Could not connect to machine 127.0.0.1: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE06:15
TooR4uFailed to change password for sri06:15
TooR4uwhat is the problem?06:15
n2diyTheodor: can you get a friend to do that for you, then you could grab his .deb, and move it to your machine?06:15
Pirate-kinggood question calvarez06:16
LjL!offline | Theodor06:16
ubotuTheodor: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, http://apt.byethost14.com/ may help you with determining which dependencies to fetch and calculating download sizes06:16
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TheodorOkay, thanks LjL.06:16
TheodorTime to read =)06:16
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Swedehow do you remove the loginscreen, login in automaticly without writing password and gaining all administator rights?06:16
dredhammerhello seasons greetings, i'm trying to install Edgy on a desktop but there is a problem , its one of the older motherboards that doesn't have a built in lan adapter so it uses wireless networking and for some reason the live disk does not recognize the adapter (its a linksys wireless usb adapter)06:16
Gacomentn2diy, i am dapper. I find this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131253. is it good?06:16
Gacoment*have06:16
Gacoment:p06:16
JosefK!root > Swede06:17
n2diyGacoment: let me take a look at it.06:17
Music_Shuffle'I am dapper' XD06:17
Infelizyes u are dapper06:17
Gacoment:D06:17
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Gacomentexcuse me , but i am italian06:17
Gacoment:p06:17
skukzadredhammer, you need to install drivers for wireless to work using ndiswrapper06:17
skukzagoogle it06:17
Swedehuh, writing that in a terminal or what?06:17
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dredhammerhow am i to install if theres no internet connection to get the ndswrapper?06:17
yccheokhi, anyone here familiar with launchpad?06:17
LjLSwede: how to ask for trouble, in other words? https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/desktopguide/tr/desktop-tips.html06:17
MaheanuuI have been working almost 2 weeks trying to set up a raid array and install Dapper on it, but when dapper starts the install, it sees each drive individually, and not as a multidisc array...  I have not been able to get past this as it keeps installing on hda06:18
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LjLSwede: writing what in terminal?06:18
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duncan_Hello: I'v just downloaded 2,3GB zip file and when trying to unzip it I get error:  invalid compressed data to inflate. Please tell me there is some way to fix it despite downloading it again.06:18
cactiis there support for direct rendering for an ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X ? I've searched the wiki and forums, and I don't see much information. Running Dapper Drake06:18
dredhammerdoes the edgy disc come with ndiswrapper?06:18
noelferreirahi people! hi have a ati graphic card sharing main memory? how can i configure the amount of memory of the graphic card?06:18
MaheanuuIf anyone has any ideas I would greatly appreciate a pm so that we could walk thru this together06:18
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dredhammerso just doing apt-get would install?06:18
n2diyGacoment: I'm not familiar with XGL, just CVS, that is why I answered your CVS question.06:19
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Music_Shuffle!ndiswrapper06:19
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:19
Music_Shuffledredhammer, looked for it in Synaptic?06:19
krupsamd64 edgy - eclipse package not working.06:19
skukzahe diesnt have access to the internet without it irconic eh06:19
Gacomentn2diy, i have ati x700 mobility! is it work?06:20
n2diyGacoment: I don't know, I don't know anything about XGL.06:20
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ceacrohello world06:20
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Swedehello ceacro06:21
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ceacroyou are so kind06:21
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Gacomentn2diy, but xgl has potenzial graphic use :P06:21
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dredhammeri don't kknow if it is in the edgy standard disc or if i might need to download the edgy dvd to have it06:22
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n2diyGacoment: good for it!?06:22
ceacrowhat version of ubuntu do you have folks?06:22
Music_ShuffleEdgy 64.06:22
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ceacroI see06:23
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n2diyDapper06:23
ceacroI have MEPIS06:23
Gacomentn2diy, yes i am interesting to activate the potenzial cube06:23
GacomentXD06:23
siv0xanyone knwo how to setup a mic/headset that could help me out?06:23
ceacroit is a mixed ubuntu06:23
Music_ShuffleGacoment, no AIGLX?06:23
ceacrowith Debian06:23
GacomentMusic_Shuffle, i have dapper :p06:23
duncan_Hello: I'v just downloaded 2,3GB zip file and when trying to unzip it I get error:  invalid compressed data to inflate. Please tell me there is some way to fix it despite downloading it again.06:23
Music_ShuffleAhh nvm then.06:23
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ceacroI have tried a lot of distros around06:24
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ceacrothis is the best to me06:24
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n2diyGacoment: good luck, I can't help you.06:24
siv0xI just installed Teamspeak and i cant hear anyones mic, my mic is like its muted and my headset sounds aweful, the bass is going through my subwoofer instead of coming through my headset.06:25
ceacroSIMPLY MEPIS can be downloades from its own home site06:25
siv0xCan anyone help me set this up?06:25
lcattaI am trying to get my wireless card working, and when I run lshw to see if the device is there it is listed, but it is listed as DISABLED. Does anyone know how to resolve this problem?06:25
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Gacomentn2diy, are there multilanguage translations for ubuntu ?06:25
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meng<ceacro> si senor06:25
n2diyubotu Italian06:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Italian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:25
Gacomentno06:26
n2diyubotu language06:26
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:26
LjL!italian is <alias> it06:26
ubotuI'll remember that, LjL06:26
LjLanyway that wasn't italian06:26
Swedegreat, now it wont boot, get error 21 when grub is loading06:26
Gacomentn2diy, exsist programm for traduction in multilanguage?06:26
n2diyubotu: italian06:26
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:26
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ceacroyes of course06:26
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siv0xanyone know how to setup a mic/headset that could help me out?06:27
siv0xI just installed Teamspeak and i cant hear anyones mic, my mic is like its muted and my headset sounds aweful, the bass is going through my subwoofer instead of coming through my headset.06:27
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meng<siv0x>time to stop smoking weed?06:28
siv0xmeng: Never06:28
JosefKhas anyone managed to get TRAMP working with emacs-snapshot?06:28
ceacrotrivia questionnarie06:28
noelferreirahi people! hi have a ati graphic card sharing main memory? how can i configure the amount of memory of the graphic card?06:28
Music_ShuffleErr...what does that relate? Lol.06:28
JosefKit seems to ignore all flavours of emacs that aren't GNU emacs2106:28
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ceacrowhat is the main advantage of having linux installed on the HH?06:29
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lcattaI am trying to get my wireless card working, and when I run lshw to see if the device is there it is listed, but it is listed as DISABLED. Does anyone know how to resolve this problem?06:29
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Gacomentn2diy, in the italian chan they are bullshit06:29
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LjL!language | Gacoment06:30
ubotuGacoment: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:30
ceacroit is very simple06:30
JosefKno emacs bods in here *sighs*06:30
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GacomentLjL, language?06:30
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LjLGacoment: "bullshit" is not a nice word.06:30
lord_niconHi all06:30
ceacrothe main advantage of having LINUX installed on the hard disk is:......06:30
n2diyGacoment: I can't do anything about that.06:30
Music_ShuffleHi0.06:30
Gacomentyes i know it06:30
Gacoment:p06:30
ceacroVIRUS FREE LOL06:30
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lord_niconI got problem, I got Kubuntu for 64-bit PC... Ale I wan't to install Wine, is it possible?06:30
Naphi06:31
Gacomentn2diy, you create a virus for them pc06:31
LjLGacoment: well, don't use swear words here.  anyway if you need help and can't speak english well, query me, and i will translate06:31
lord_niconI got problem, I got Kubuntu for 64-bit PC... Ale I wan't to install Wine, is it possible?06:31
ceacrohabla en espaol pues06:31
LjL!es | ceacro06:31
ubotuceacro: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:31
n2diyGacoment: I can't do anything about that either.06:31
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GacomentLjL, ok06:32
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lord_niconAgain: I got problem, I got Kubuntu for 64-bit PC... Ale I wan't to install Wine, is it possible?06:32
lord_niconq;06:32
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ceacro2nd question06:32
ceacrowhat is AUTOMATIX?06:32
Music_Shuffle!automatix06:32
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe06:32
lord_niconCan any1 help me?06:32
Gacomentn2diy, i can it, but you know translator programm for ubuntu?06:32
Music_Shufflelord_nicon, err...with what again?06:32
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lord_niconAgain: I got problem, I got Kubuntu for 64-bit PC... Ale I wan't to install Wine, is it possible?06:32
ceacrovery good06:32
lord_niconWith that Music_Shuffle06:32
ceacroCongratulations !!!06:33
n2diyGacoment: no I don't.06:33
Gacomentok06:33
Music_ShuffleYou want to...install Wine on 64-bit Kubuntu?06:33
ceacro3rd question06:33
Music_ShuffleIs it?06:33
lord_niconYep06:33
Music_ShuffleYes its possible.06:33
Music_Shuffle:)06:33
lord_niconCan U help me? (:06:33
Music_ShuffleCheck the forums, I saw a guide a day or so ago.06:33
Music_Shuffle:o06:33
lord_niconCan U gave me an address?06:33
lord_nicon(of forum)06:33
Music_ShuffleNo idea, you'll have to forum search a bit06:34
Music_ShuffleOh.06:34
ceacrowhat is the name of the next UBUNTU version?????06:34
Music_Shufflehttp://kubuntuforums.net/06:34
Music_Shuffle!feisty06:34
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+106:34
lord_niconThx Music_Shuffle06:34
ceacrovery good06:34
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selinuxiumhi all, Has anyone set up racoon ipsec and kvpnc ? I am trying to install racoon but I am getting module not found errors.06:34
ceacro4th question06:34
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ceacrowhat is the meaning of GNU????06:35
LjLceacro: GNU is Not Unix06:35
mnoirgnu's not unix06:35
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n2diyceacro: GNU stands for GNU Not Unix.06:36
ceacrocongratulations folks06:36
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henzohello06:36
mnoirwithout the 's, you are not correct.06:36
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gOldZahNwhat program to open .run?06:36
ceacrothis trivia questionnarie is for you....06:36
henzohey boys!!!06:36
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siv0xmeng: ima go smoke another joint06:37
henzosomeone knows, how i can translate grub into spanish??06:37
ceacrowhat do you use the command "alien" for?06:37
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n2diy! spanish06:37
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:37
henzothanks06:37
skukzaceacro, converting rpms to debs06:37
aphexianceacro: to phone home06:37
mnoirceacro: I don't06:37
ceacroterrific.......06:37
ceacrosuper06:37
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SeanTaterIs there a way to cut down on digikam's space usage?06:37
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gOldZahNwhich program can open .run files?06:38
meng<henzo> someone knows, how i can translate grub into spanish?? -->comer comida?06:38
n2diyskukza: Alien converts them.06:38
dsquaremy gnome display panel crashed, but gimp is running, and i have unsaved art can anyone tell me how to get it please??06:38
tonyyarussogOldZahN: What are they for?  Chances are you don't need to.06:38
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skukzan2diy, thats what he asked06:38
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gOldZahNtonyyarusso, its my gfx driver^^06:39
n2diyskukza: I missed the question.06:39
skukza:P06:39
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lord_nicong2g06:40
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SeanTatergOldZahN: http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=RUN -- It sounds like something for windows machines --06:40
lord_niconbb all06:40
tonyyarussogOldZahN: iirc, .run is a self-extracting executable, so you chmod +x it and then ./file.run - just make sure there's not a packaged version somewhere.06:40
lord_niconThks 4 help again Music_Shuffle and c U!06:40
siv0xmnoir; sure you dont :P06:40
skukzag0ldZahn, is it ati drivers?06:40
Music_ShuffleGL :)06:40
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mnoiri have not met an .rpm in a long time that i needed06:41
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SeanTatermnoir: early OO.o betas only came in rpm, that's the only reason I've used them06:41
mnoirsince most developers these days are packaging properly, the build processes are strong and using rh stuff is not that necessary :)06:43
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siv0xmnoir: i needed an rpm earlier and i couldnt figure it out, i had to look it up06:43
Vegeta^In this guide about webpage filtering: http://software.newsforge.com/software/04/06/23/1521209.shtml , after I typed the commands with the 'iptables' under the section "Putting it in action", I can't acces the internet anymore. Can I "undo" those commands?06:43
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dsquareanyone?06:43
dsquarecan anyone tell me how to revive gimp?06:44
SeanTaterVegeta^: do this --> sudo iptables -F06:44
dsquareits still running but it's in the background somewhere06:44
skukzahmm06:44
troughtoni am trying to get wow working through wine but am getting an error because of opengl i have my native graphics drivers installed but open gl seems to be broken how do i fix it ??06:44
skukzaive enabled the multiverse repositories06:44
SeanTaterVegeta^: it will kill the security in iptables but you should be able to access the internet06:44
dsquareomg i found it06:44
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dsquareit was on another workspace.06:44
dsquaresry06:44
mnoirdsquare: tough situation - you might look for tmp files in /tmp06:44
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mnoiroic - good!06:45
dsquarethanks mnoir i will remember that if i ever lose gimp..06:45
dsquare:)06:45
Vegeta^SeanTater: That didn't help, I still can't acces. "Unable to connect"...06:45
mnoirprolly nothing was actually broke :)06:45
mnoirDONT LOSE IT06:45
mnoirsorry - emphasis06:45
dsquarenot at all i misclicked i think or it just got put on a diff space when gnome restarted.06:45
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dsquareim gonna go save my art now.. :)06:45
mnoir:)06:45
SeanTaterVegeta^: then in each command, replace -A with -D (append to delete) to get rid if the commands06:46
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Alakazamz0rhttp://googlesightseeing.com/maps?p=1215&c=&t=k&hl=en&ll=55.957443,-3.311411&z=1706:46
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SeanTaterVegeta^: pastebin-ing the output of sudo iptables -L would help too06:46
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mnoirVegeta^: if the -F didnt work, the -D prolly wont either.  Did you just use commandline or did you store the commands for reuse?06:47
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mnoiror is there something else you didn't tell us you did :)06:47
Vegeta^mnoir: It did work.06:48
mnoiroh ok...06:48
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mnoirso you're whole again?06:48
fromvegaHello06:48
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Vegeta^mnoir , SeanTater: The following command was the problem: iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 8080 , why did it block everything?06:48
SeanTatermnoir: In the back of my mind I was thinking the same thing -- quite surprising that -d worked06:48
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fromvegaI have added rules to iptables and changed ip_forward to 1. Now, how do I make them permanent, so they remain the same after a reboot?06:49
SeanTaterVegeta^: because squid is not working correctly or is not on06:49
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SeanTaterVegeta^: every web connection (http / WWW) was redirected to yourself06:49
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SeanTaterVegeta^: but squid did not make new connections06:50
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SeanTaterVegeta^: so there was no data06:50
Vegeta^SeanTater: Ok. How do I start squid? It doesn't quit say how.06:50
Vegeta^ok..06:50
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fromvegaVegeta^: /etc/init.d/squid start06:50
pterkHi. I moved an debian sarge box to ubuntu server (dapper) a while ago. Now I need to hook up a USB-harddisk (which was used from time to time on sarge) but /etc/hotplug is missing. I tried 'apt-get install usbmgr module-init-tools udev' but to no avail. Doen anyone have an idea how to resolve this?06:50
SeanTaterVegeta^: To be truthful , I don't know -- I spend more time with iptables than squid06:50
SeanTaterVegeta^: I just knoe squid did not do it's job and that you should not use that until squid works06:51
SeanTaterVegeta^: *know*06:51
troughtoni have my native nvidia installed but need opengl running and wine says it is not working can anyone help ??06:51
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SeanTaterVegeta^: what fromvega said06:52
erUSUL!info hotplug dapper06:52
ubotuPackage hotplug does not exist in dapper06:52
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erUSUL!info usbmnrg dapper06:52
ubotuPackage usbmnrg does not exist in dapper06:52
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erUSUL!info usbmgr dapper06:53
ubotuusbmgr: user-mode daemon which loads/unloads USB kernel modules. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-4 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 244 kB06:53
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Vegeta^fromvega: I get [fail] ...06:53
LeeJunFananyone tried to debootstrap edgy recently (i386)? I get this: W: Failure trying to run: chroot /media/Seagate120/thick dpkg --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.4-1ubuntu12_i386.deb06:53
fromvegaVegeta^: try stop, then start06:53
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fromvegaSeanTater: how do I make changes in iptable permanent? So the rules remain after a reboot?06:54
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giskard_j #telepathy06:54
SeanTaterfromvega: no, they do not, at least not in ubuntu or debian, to my knowledge06:54
SeanTaterfromvega: but I make a script so that it does06:54
fromvegaSeanTater: yes I know, but how do I do that?] 06:54
SeanTaterfromvega: *made*06:54
J-_giskard_: hrm06:54
fromvegaSeanTater: hum... and where you put the script?06:55
LeeJunFanah, apparently I need to bind /dev to my chroot dest before debootstrapping.06:55
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giskard_J-_, sorry i forgot /06:55
SeanTaterfromvega: in /etc/init.d, and the rc.S folders06:55
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SeanTaterfromvega: init executes it as you boot up, and it loads the rules from a file06:55
kane77hi...06:55
J-_no prob lol =)06:55
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siv0xcan someone maybe help me get wine installed with synaptic?06:55
kane77how can I upgrade gnome?? (im running dapper with gnome 2.14)06:56
KDan!themes06:56
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy06:56
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der0bmaybe I'm just a fool, can anyone tell me how to change the local in gdesklets?  I can't for the life of me find where..06:56
SeanTaterfromvega: I set mine up so it saves it at shutdown, meaning it seamlessly makes iptables changes persist without manually saving06:56
der0b*locale06:56
kane77siv0x, just type sudo apt-get install wine06:56
troughtonis there a way to get opengl working with the nvidia drivers06:56
SeanTatertroughton: as in the binary ones?06:57
fromvegaSeanTater: can you show me how do you do that?06:57
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SeanTatertroughton: opengl works fine for me, but I use debian (etch) at the moment, so it's probably not exactly the same06:57
Vegeta^fromvega: It's the same thing. What does this mean: "/etc/init.d/squid: line 64:  7084 Aborted" ? And the number (here 7084) keeps changing on every try.06:57
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troughtonSeanTater i am trying to get world of warcraft working in wine all installed well but when i try to run it it says opengl not present06:57
SeanTaterfromvega: do you want the script?06:57
SeanTatertroughton: wine may be the culprit -- I have no experience with it though -- sorry06:58
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helplol*sigh* anyone know why i installed gentoo, took off the partitions in ubuntu, and now i cant login to windows with a "GRUB error"?06:58
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siv0xkane77: okay i got it installed, where can i find the program at now?07:00
fromvegaSeanTater: it would be grate! can you send it to me?07:00
SeanTaterfromvega: do this -> cd /etc/init.d && sudo wget http://clancy.homelinux.com/iptables.sh <-- to get the script07:00
kane77siv0x, run winecfg07:00
kane77siv0x, I'll be right back07:00
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zRafhello all07:01
Vegeta^fromvega: It is stated "To get the filtering started, you can now enter the following commands: "service squid restart", "service dansguardian restart"" but they aren't commands. Where do I type them?07:01
zRafI need to run a shell script in Ubuntu, but I can't so it07:01
siv0xkane77: k07:01
SeanTaterfromvega: then this --> chmod +x /etc/init.d/iptables.sh07:01
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Swedeanyone knows how to fix grub eroores?07:01
SeanTaterfromvega: oops07:01
SeanTaterfromvega: not that last one07:01
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SeanTaterfromvega: this instead --> sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/iptables.sh07:02
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Swedeerorrs07:02
zRafI created the file, write down my commands, chmod 755'ed, then ./myscript and it says "Permission denied", please help07:02
helplol*sigh* anyone know why i installed gentoo, took off the partitions in ubuntu, and now i cant login to windows with a "GRUB error"?07:02
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Swedewhat error do you get helplol?07:03
helploli get a 22 error07:03
mnoirhelplol: do you now intend no linux, only win?07:03
SeanTaterzRaf: are you sure the commands in the file have permissions (as opposed to the script)07:03
zRafit runs if I write "bash ./myscript" or "sh ./myscript"07:03
helplolno i intend on installing ubuntu07:03
SeanTaterzRaf: okay07:03
helplolim still very eagar to use linux07:03
fromvegaSeanTater: tks, I'll read it! and what about start, stop, does it have these commands?07:03
Swedei get 2107:03
zRafSeanTater: yes, because the only commands that I have is "echo 'hallo'"07:03
fromvegaVegeta^: sorry, don't know07:03
helplolbut i get a 22 error when it tries to load grub, when no CD is in07:04
SeanTaterfromvega: yes, but only those07:04
helploland just sits there07:04
SeanTaterfromvega: hold on a moment though07:04
mnoirhelplol: either you repair your MBR ala windos only before you install ubuntu, or trust that the ubu install will find it which it does usually07:04
SeanTaterfromvega: that's not the end of it07:04
helplolrepair my MBR?07:05
zRafI explain. I want to run a php script for command line, but it doesn't work, so I've tried to use a simple command, but with very bad luck07:05
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zRafSeanTater: I explain. I want to run a php script for command line, but it doesn't work, so I've tried to use a simple command, but with very bad luck07:05
SeanTaterfromvega: do --> /etc/init.d/iptables.sh save <-- to create the file07:05
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fromvegaSeanTater: why save to save the file?07:05
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SeanTaterfromvega: because otherwise it will have problems loading07:06
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mnoirhelplol: yes - right now it has a broken grub and you need either a fixed grub that points to win and ubuntu or a fixed windows whatever that points only to windows07:06
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SeanTaterfromvega: it's not that intuitive a script -- sorry07:06
helplolyea how would i fix that?07:07
helplolinstall grub from ubuntu?07:07
SeanTaterfromvega: let me put a progress bar here -- We have downloaded the script -- We need to make the file and link it to each of the rc directories07:07
mnoirhelplol: the normal ubuntu install will, as a matter of course do it.  Do you want to do that without making sure yer windows still works?07:08
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skukzaive enabled all the repositories in sanaptic, i cant find any packages for mp3 etc07:08
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jbroome!mp3 | skukza07:08
ubotuskukza: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:08
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fromvegaSeanTater: tks07:08
gatenanyone here use portsentry?07:09
helplolwell07:09
SeanTaterfromvega: have leftover patience?07:09
helploli really want to login windows, so i know it works07:09
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helplolthen continue on with ubuntu installation07:09
mnoirhelplol: i agree :)07:09
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mnoirbut I do not know the gatesway to fix the mbr - i advise you to find that...07:09
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mnoiruuh - GATESway07:10
fromvegaSeanTater: sorry, just that I need to solve another problem here.... init.d doesn't solve the problem? do I need to configure these rc dirs?07:10
novahow do i delete an .so it wont let me. need to be root... it in my trash and i cant deleted from there07:10
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SeanTaterfromvega: hold on -- I'll paste one big command so it does not have to take so much describing07:10
helplolso i find GATESway on google?07:10
mnoir!sudo | nova07:10
ubotunova: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:10
helploland run it?07:10
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novai know this, but im deleting not running07:11
novahow do I delete it07:11
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gatennova: your trash folder is in ~/.Trash07:11
mnoirhelplol: sorry - no - i am funnin - you need to do whatever the official microsoft way is to recover your mbr07:11
affluxI've got the following problems with my compiz: gnome-terminal stars as a white window and I can't see any characters in it. I can type "exit" an press return, then it closes, so it basicly works. If I start it before I start compiz it works too, it still works if i start compiz afterwards but then new gnome-terminal windows won't work.07:11
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gatennova:  correction. your trash is in /home/user/.Trash07:11
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mnoirnove - clue - the PROGRAM to delete is 'rm'07:12
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novanova@nova-desktop:~$ sudo ~/.Trash07:12
novasudo: /home/nova/.Trash: command not found07:12
nova???07:12
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tonyyarussonova: That's a directory, not a command.07:13
mnoirnova: stop, slow down07:13
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helplolwell another question07:13
novai stopped, im slow, now what.07:13
helplolroot "/" is a primary partition07:13
helplolwhat is swap and boot partitions?07:13
mnoirnova: the file you want to delete is in /home/nova/.Trash07:13
mnoiryou want to run the delete program to delete it07:13
tolleAre there a easy way to make installation possible without having a monitor for a certain machine? Like enabling ssh and just ssh and remotly do the installation?07:14
novalol, ok im in the hom/nova i dont see trash07:14
mnoirthe way to do this is > sudo rm <pathtofiletodelete>07:14
tonyyarussohelplol: swap isn't mounted as a spot to store things and whatnot (although maybe in /proc somewhere) - it's like a pagefile or extended RAM.  boot is /boot.07:14
noelferreirahi people! hi have a ati graphic card sharing main memory? how can i configure the amount of memory of the graphic card?07:14
affluxnova, that's because files/directorys with a . in front are hidden per default07:14
helplolwell im installing ubuntu with the graphical file listed in the gnome desktop07:14
Dachrahi all!  nub here with an obscure question07:14
helploland im creating partitions for root and swap07:15
novaok, let me make it easier for the both of us07:15
Music_Shuffle!hi | Dachra07:15
ubotuDachra: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!07:15
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Dachra:)07:15
gatentolle:  thats called a "headless" installation. im not sure about the installation, but afterwards its easy enough. searching for headless installation might help07:15
novathis is the name of the file thats in the trash  "libjavaplugin_oji.so"07:15
novaso whats the command?07:15
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SeanTaterfromvega: paste coming -- just a sec07:15
mnoirnova: so you tell me what to type to remove that file :)07:15
novasudo rm libjavaplugin_oji.so07:16
nova?07:16
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mnoirsounds right07:16
novalol07:16
novaok07:16
mnoirtias07:16
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gatennova:  you have to be in your trash directory first though07:16
krauthi07:16
krautis there any ipv6 ubuntu-mirrir?07:16
mnoirgaten: he is07:16
krautmirror even07:16
fromvegaSeanTater: ok07:16
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novawhats the command to get in the directory07:16
tonyyarussocd07:17
mnoirnova: cd <dir>07:17
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mnoiri thought you were there :)07:17
novacd trash?07:17
gatenmnoir:  hah!07:17
novaor cd /trash?07:17
gatennova:  cd /home/nova/.Trash07:17
novaor cd /home/nova/trash07:17
novaok07:17
mnoirnova: that is the name of the dir?07:17
novayes07:17
novaroot07:17
novai think07:17
mnoirclue: capitals and dots count07:17
SeanTaterfromvega: execute this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39352/07:17
Dachraok, ubunto 6.10 (forget the "freindly" name "iffy?")  VMWare player running hand made XP install (need visio) currently running on wifi (eth1)07:18
SeanTaterfromvega: but make sure not to include the line numbers07:18
fromvegaSeanTater: does this save is because of your script or because of init.d ?07:18
Dachrathe wifi connection does not pass to vmware xp instance.... any ideas how this should work?07:18
novaworked like a charm thank you, for patience and undertsanding.07:18
mnoirnova: you need to understand this - rm is forever and if you do it wrong you will prolly not be happy07:19
humei've got some problems with networkmanager - I have an encrypted wlan and networkmanager asks for my wallet password, but when I supply it it freezes and I have to restart - is there a way to bypass the wallet thing?07:19
novalol07:19
SeanTaterfromvega: because of init executing my script07:19
novai need to understand linux period07:19
gatennova:  your welcome. google for some basic linux commands, they will come in handy07:19
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novargr07:19
SeanTaterfromvega: oh poo07:19
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SeanTaterfromvega: I did that wrong07:20
gatennova:  look at this page: http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/basic.shtml07:20
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fromvegaSeanTater: no problem dude, just tell me the main procedures so I can find it later. I need to use init.d and whatelse?07:20
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SeanTaterfromvega: oh well -- execute this when you're done --> ln -s /etc/init.d/iptables /etc/init.d/iptables.sh07:21
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petroleum_will sopcast be added to the repos anytime in the near future?07:21
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SeanTaterfromvega: I was supposed to use /etc/init.d/iptables.sh not /etc/init.d/iptables07:21
SeanTaterfromvega: making that extra link will fix it07:21
jothIs anyone here that was helping me with partitioning earlier?07:21
MenZahaIf I wish to connect to 123.456.78.910 via ssh with the username menza, what would my syntax be?07:21
MenZahassh 123.456.78.910 menza@hostname no?07:21
tollegaten: yeah, tought most headless install guides goes for serial connection.07:21
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mnoirMenZaha: no07:22
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mnoirMenZaha: ssh user@system07:22
SeanTaterfromvega: if you know init, all I;m doing is having it run the script at shutdown and startup by linking it to the appropriate folders07:22
aphexianssh menza@123.456.78.9007:22
MenZahaaphexian, mnoir: thanks07:22
SeanTaterfromvega: it's a really simple script, but it's difficult to implement07:22
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mnoirMenZaha: man ssh is your friend...07:22
aphexianno prob07:22
aphexianits all about ssh tunneling then VNCing07:23
gatentolle:  yeah well it needs to output somewhere. ssh isnt enabled by default07:23
Dachracan anyone here help with a ubuntu->vmware->xp wireless problem or am I barking up the wrong tree?  :)07:23
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gatentolle:  you could blindly enable it maybe ;)07:23
thomasghi. I'm using xubuntu 6.10 and try to play mp3s with mpd, what doesnt work. which package I need to let mpd play my mp3s?07:23
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Dachraor are ya's all just busy atm?07:23
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tannerldwhat should the filesystem be for ubuntu?07:24
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tollegaten: yeah, seems easiest to just blindly install it atm.07:24
xo233Dachra: what are you tying to do?07:24
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mnoirtannerld: pls rephrase yer question?07:24
psynaps3Folks, a few questions :) Should I got for reiserfs or ext3? typical developer usage07:24
thomasgtannerld: nearly all distros use ext3 as default07:24
Lynouretannerld: Depends on the use. Most people use ext3.07:24
gatentolle:  well you could try to blindly enable ssh, then install from remote. you should be able to w/ the livecd07:24
mnoirpsynaps3: prolly ext307:24
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tollegaten: ah, forgot about the livecd..07:24
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AlexC_Hey07:24
gatenuse ext2 if you never want to get your deleted data back07:24
Dachraim using wireless atm but can't pass the connection to vmware... know what i mean?07:24
tannerldLynoure thomasg: ok, thanks :)07:24
AlexC_Is it possible to make Motif applications look nicer, maybe by forcing them to use GTK instead?07:25
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fromvegaSeanTater: thank you dude! I need to go! bye07:25
mnoirgaten - journals are for sys crashes too...07:25
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xo233Right, you cannot share the connection...07:25
Henry|Alrighty, burning the alternative installation07:25
psynaps3fine, a year or so back, i had read a few good reports comparing reiserfs with ext3 and the former had the lead. What's the scenario like now?07:25
Henry|hopefully it'll work :D07:25
tolleAlexC_:07:25
alex-weejAlexC_: motif and Gtk are completely different APIs07:25
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mnoirpsynaps3: you want to trade more limited support for a little performance?07:25
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alex-weejAlexC_: i.e. no07:25
tolleAlexC_:  what the other alex guy said.07:26
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xo233Hmm, what version of VMware are you using, and what version of Ubuntu?07:26
gatenmnoir:  right. ext2 just has very little hope of recovering anything deleted/damaged. good for some purposes07:26
psynaps3hmm.. fine. ext3 it is then :)07:26
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AlexC_alex-weej: oh I know they are different APIs, just wondering if it was possible to make Motif apps pretty :P07:26
alex-weejstick with ext307:26
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alex-weejit's not written by wife-murdering programmers07:26
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djavie233hi07:26
psynaps3hahaha07:26
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hshhi07:26
tollepsynaps3:  the differance is that ext4 is out and hans reiser is accused of murder?07:26
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mnoiralex-weej: darn - ya beat me to it...07:26
Dachraubuntu 6.10 and vmware player with vmware 5 tools installed07:26
djavie233I need some help07:26
alex-weejdjavie233: just ask!07:26
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psynaps3okay next one. I am setting up a dual boot sys here and would like some help with the paritioning.07:27
djavie233Ok, I have Ubuntu Dapper Drake installed on my Windows (I'm on a Mac right now)07:27
jothI have an empty partition, can I install Windows onto it from a CD without rebooting?07:27
psynaps3what should the size be of my swap partition? (system ram is 1gb)07:27
djavie233The thing is that I want to update it to Edgy07:27
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jonah1980hi i've just installed enlightenment to try instead of gnome, but on loggin in my desktop icons have dissapeared? do i have to have two sets one for enlightenment and one for gnome or is there a way to make them the same?07:27
djavie233But the windows doesn't have internet07:27
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alex-weejpsynaps3: try 1 GB, it's completely arbitrary and can be changed at any time if it's at the end of a disk07:27
xo233Dachra: Are you getting any output, in the form of errors/messages ect, when you try to start the connection sharing?07:27
djavie233How would I go about doing that?07:28
mnoirdjavie233: you will use 6.06 to upg, not windows07:28
psynaps3i would expect a bit of paging because of running java apps most of the time07:28
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djavie233mnoir : what do you mean?07:28
alex-weejpsynaps3: i wouldn't worry too much about it. just give it a GB07:28
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xo233djavie233: What exactly are you wanting to do? Upgrade to Edgy, from Breezy?07:28
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mnoiri mean that windows access to the net is not relevant - ubuntu needs the access07:28
psynaps3fine. How about the boot partition? is 128MiB enough?07:29
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djavie233xo233: I have Dapper Drake and I want to upgrade to Edgy07:29
alex-weejpsynaps3: you don't need a boot partition07:29
CanopusHi every one07:29
SeanTateris there a way to decreas the disk usage od digikam (like linking the images) or something similar?07:29
Dachrano errors, i have it set to "bridged" using the vmware virtual nic driver in xp, the connection shows up but says "poor connection blah blah blah" in xp after the interface comes up07:29
SeanTater*decrease*07:29
psynaps3i am sticking with a seperate partition for swap, boot, root and home07:29
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Canopuscan some one guide me how I can exclude a package from the update notifier list07:29
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psynaps3old habits :)07:29
gatenpsynaps3:  for swap i use 2x memory. if you have the space i'd suggest that07:29
mnoirpsynaps3: why a boot?07:29
thomasgcan nobody tell me which package is needed on xubuntu for playing mp3 files with mpd?07:30
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alex-weejpsynaps3: boot needs enough size to contain your kernel images and your initrd. i really don't think you need one but if you're hellbent on making a boot partition then be my guest.07:30
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alex-weejpsynaps3: i.e. 128 MB is ample07:30
mediatorhello07:30
DachraI guess my question is, does it "have" to be a ethernet NIC or can I fool it into using my wifi connection?07:30
psynaps3i have no idea. been a while since i have used linux. last attempt was with gentoo and i had quite a few kernel images in my boot partition07:30
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xo233Dachra: So, there IS a connection being formed? XP (vmare) is just getting a weak signal? Does it cut off completely after that?07:30
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mediatoranyone know how to configure KISMET for ubuntu?07:31
djavie233so can anyone help me? If you would like to do so, PM me07:31
alex-weejpsynaps3: if you want to take my advice, have /, /home and swap. you really don't need more than that for most cases and having /home on a separate partition is just convenient for power users07:31
AfiefWhat games are available for Ubuntu with a good multiplayer(internet)?07:31
psynaps3finally, how should i divide the space between root and home partition? that's about 30gb to share07:31
gatenWorld of Warcraft07:31
Dachrayessir, my guess is that the vmware (1gE) driver dowsn't like the "slow" wifi connection?07:31
psynaps3it will mostly be a single user system07:31
alex-weejAfief: ut2004, quake (up to quake 4), wow and all hl variants through wine07:31
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alex-weejAfief: enemy territory07:32
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Afiefpsynaps3: I got 10 GB for root and the rest home, works like a charm for me07:32
psynaps3i need a seperate home partition. Might want to try out some other distros at some later point :)07:32
gatenpsynaps3:  all your programs are gunna be stored in /usr, so i'd put more space in there. /home is mostly personal stuff07:32
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alex-weejpsynaps3: bear in mind that things like UT2004 are about 6 GB07:32
Afiefalex-weej: i was thinking about something less heavy... more in the league of frozen bubble and friends...07:32
SpiritHoboOy. Can I have some help?07:32
xo233Are you able to do anything net related while the connection is working?07:33
Canopusis it possible to restrain a package from being updated automatically07:33
vulcaniusAfief: got a separate file system for boot?07:33
psynaps3so i guess around 20gb for root and the rest for home. if i am not mistaken i can always resize this at a later point?07:33
xo233... does it stay connected for a certain set amount of time? Or is it random?07:33
jonah1980hello anyone know how to setup an elightenment desktop to match that of gnome - i'm not seeimg my desktop items07:33
alex-weejAfief: there are an absolute shedload of little games, just check out the games category in the app browser07:33
daedra!hu07:33
ubotuHa magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu07:33
psynaps3alex-weej: there won't be any games in my laption :) at least not UT07:33
alex-weejpsynaps3: you can, but it is difficult07:33
daedrawhat is that hungarian?07:33
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alex-weejpsynaps3: basically, you can't move the start of an ext3 partition. it's just not possible07:33
Afiefvulcanius: nope, only home and root. I never understood why i would need a boot FS(perhaps you can tell me?)07:34
alex-weejpsynaps3: so you are limited by that07:34
gatenAfief:  try this: http://www.happypenguin.org/07:34
SpiritHobohelp07:34
vulcaniusAfief: well put it this way, if you ever fill up your root partition on accident or without noticing07:34
alex-weejCanopus: you can07:34
Afiefalex-weej: but none of them states if it got multiplayer07:34
psynaps3hmm... my concern is that when the next version of ubuntu comes out and when i need to do a fresh install, i woudn't want to loose my home partition07:34
vulcaniusthe next time you reboot, your machine will not be able to start07:34
vulcaniusthere will be no space for startup procedures07:34
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skukzahow do i view all the pations on my drive?07:34
Canopusalex-weej: great, how?07:34
the_conleydf -h07:35
gephaltHi, I cannot see my eth0 device when i do an ifconfig -a07:35
vulcaniusalot of people make this mistake and then cry later when all it takes is a simple 50MB or so07:35
alex-weejCanopus: find the package in Synaptic, go to Package -> Lock Version07:35
psynaps3but i guess if i copy everything in my home partition to the shared fat32 and copy them back, it shouldn't be a problem? would this mess with the permissions and stuffs?07:35
the_conley(skukza)07:35
skukzaya07:35
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the_conleydf -h07:35
Afiefgaten: thanks that looks promising:D07:35
Dachraxo233: not within the xp vm nosir07:35
gephaltbut after i connect the ubuntu box with the XP box, according to the XP box, the network adapter is connected. how come?07:35
alex-weejpsynaps3: fat32 will destroy your user permissions, and probably filenames07:35
gephaltcan someone please help me with this?07:35
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skukzathe_conley, that only shows on partion i want to see them all07:36
gatenAfief:  no problem07:36
psynaps3duh, then its definately a seperate home partition07:36
alex-weejpsynaps3: fat32 can't store filenames with colons, double quotes, or many other chars - but you could of course just move everything to a new ext3 partition :P07:36
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the_conleyit should show them all07:36
erUSULpsynaps3: yes it would mess up perms you better backup your home in a tar archive with the p flag to save permisions07:36
bmhmhi every107:36
the_conleyhow many do you have?07:36
Canopusalex-weej: thanks07:36
the_conleyand are you sure they are mounted?07:36
alex-weejCanopus: no problem07:36
skukzait only shows /dev/hda4 and /dev/sd1a07:37
mitch__hey, I get this message in the log after having installed KDE and my wireless won;t work anymore..."12/29/2006 02:31:59 PMlocalhostkernel[  267.740495]  eth0: no IPv6 routers present"...any ideas on how to fix this?07:37
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erUSULpsynaps3: 'tar cpzf /path/to/backup.tgz ~/'07:37
aphexianIPv6 ?07:37
the_conleywell it isnt going to show you swap07:37
Music_Shuffle!ipv607:37
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv407:37
psynaps3so what do you folks suggest? should i have a seperate partition for root and home or not? considering that home is going to be just 10gb, i could always back it up to a couple of dvd's07:37
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skukzaits a 40gb hd not 4gb of hd07:37
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mitch__everything was working fine before KDE...now wireless won;t work in either desktop07:38
erUSULpsynaps3: it is a good idea to have separate partitions imnsho07:38
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skukzamitch__, xfce07:38
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the_conleyi dont know what to tell you, are you sure they are all mounted?07:38
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psynaps3fine sir :) just a one last question and i am out of here. what file systems for all these partition? ext3's for all except for boot (ext2)?07:38
skukzano they arnt07:38
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the_conleyo07:38
mnoirboot cant be ext3??07:39
the_conleywell you have to mount them07:39
skukzathats why i want to see all the partions mounted or not to find out where the hell all my space went07:39
the_conleybefore you can look at them07:39
psynaps3i am not sure.07:39
the_conleyah07:39
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mnoirmy parts are all 307:39
Canopusalex-weej: doesn't update-notifier stop asking for updating a locked package?07:39
mitch__skukza: what is xfce?07:39
psynaps3ah fine07:39
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alex-weejCanopus: not sure, sorry07:39
the_conleywell first of all, you cant look at them if they arent mounted, thats the point of being mounted07:39
alex-weejCanopus: i should hope so07:39
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erUSULpsynaps3: i have ext3 in all partitions... (boot root and home)07:39
skukzaa gui like kde or gnome07:39
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mnoirpsynaps3: just make sure to tune2fs them to do fsck more often07:40
the_conleyjust do ls /dev | grep sda (or hda)07:40
kootaphorI'm looking for a good frontend to play music and watch video on my TV.  I don't care about PVR capability, and mythtv has proven to be a pain.  Can anyone point me to a remote controllable big-screen frontend type thingie/idea? i'm wondering if they'res anything easier than, say, configuring a ratpoison setup with amarok and tons of bound keys.07:40
the_conleyat see them all07:40
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psynaps3thanks people :) this channel rocks07:40
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skukzathink ill just reinstall07:40
daedrathree w00ts for #ubuntu07:40
skukzaeverything07:40
the_conleywell i dont use gui much07:40
the_conleyhaha07:40
the_conleyno wait07:40
the_conleyi can help07:40
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psynaps3i might be back later when i need to get my webcam working in edgy :) .. until then bye bye and have a nice day07:40
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ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras07:41
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psynaps3ah :)07:41
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Dachraok, no biggie guys, thanks for listening xo233!  I've not exhausted my search options yet, just thought I might get lucky here and run tno someone who has gotten wireless connection working under vmware, cheers!07:41
gephaltCan someone please help me with this- i want to know whether its faulty hardware or possibly a missing driver due to which i cannot see my eth0 device07:41
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MrBallZhi07:42
psynaps3this one's an integrated webcam. i've read a few ppl complaning about it not working properly with ubuntu... anyway that's for a later time. Bye :)07:42
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mnoirpsynaps3: l8r07:42
hjmillshi all07:42
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hjmillsi have a hard drive from a friends dedicated server07:42
mnoirhjmills: does he miss it?07:42
MrBallZquestion,  How good is the Intel GMZ 950 graphics chipset ... compared to Nvidia - ATI , under linux .... without going to the propietary driver thing ...07:42
hjmillsused to be on a p4 now on an amd skt a07:42
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hjmillsmnoir: no - he kindly lent it to me when he lost his cpu07:43
Swedei've  got an asus motherboard, but their site only contains drivers for redhat, what do i do? i want the drivers because i want to use the s/pdif contact on the motherboard07:43
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hjmillsit boots fine but it wont work on the network because the network hardware has changed07:43
bmhmcan some1 help here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30254507:43
hjmillshow can i get it to reconfigure this?07:43
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maddashfor gtk1, there's the gtk-theme-switch. what about gtk2? I've installed some random theme via aptitude (gtk2-engines-clearlooks), so how do I switch my theme to that one?07:43
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mnoirhj - you should be abe to alter the net config07:44
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mnoirthe config is /etc/network/interfaces07:44
hjmillsmnoir: I can but it cant find the hardware that in the past it called "eth0" - how do i get it to relook at the hardware and set that all up?07:44
mon^rchanyone running doom3 on edgy?07:45
maddashanyone here know how to switch the gtk2 themes?07:45
hjmillsmnoir: its a lower level than that07:45
wyatt_earpis there a way i can run 32bit pam modules on an amd64 ubuntu install?07:45
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lode_Hi, I was in a graphical KDE session. Then I used "lock session". I came back later, and entered my password to unlock it. It said "unlocking failed". Then I pressed ctrl+alt+F2 and logged in with my username and the same password. It worked. Then I started a new graphical session, and again there I can login with my password. But I want my original graphical sessoin (which is at ctrl+alt+f7), and it still says "unlocking failed", but I seriousl07:45
lode_y enter my correct password07:45
jothI have an empty partition, can I install Windows onto it from a CD without rebooting?07:45
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lode_what else than a wrong password could cause this "unlocking failed"?07:45
mnoirhmm -07:45
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alex-weejlode_: absolutely double check num lock and caps lock07:45
hjmillsmaddash: its in Systems>Preferences>Themes in gnome07:45
mnoiryou need to inspect the boot log to determine hw or look in /proc07:45
alex-weejlode_: sometimes when switching VT's their states go a bit funked up07:45
hjmillslode_: try running "sudo passwd <username> in a term and setting the passwd to what you think it is and retrying07:46
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AnRkeyhi all07:46
alex-weejlode_: hjmills' tip will set the root password07:46
lode_alex-weej, it's not caps, and it's not numlock, tried all states, and also tried qwerty<-> azerty etc...07:46
hjmillsany idea how i can redetect the hard ware07:46
maddashhjmills: if it were that simple, I wouldn't have to ask. I don't have gnome. I fresh installed a server setup of breezy. only have openbox and obconf. and xorg, of course.07:46
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tannerldwhats the best way to set up dual monitors?07:46
hjmillsalex-weej: not if you give a different username07:46
alex-weejlode_: in that case, uninstall KDE and use GNOME07:46
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mnoirhjmills: I'm thinking07:46
lode_it's not the root password, it's the one of my user account07:47
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hjmillsmaddash: i think there is a gtk-theme-switch program available07:47
lode_alex-weej, I've used KDE for over a year on archlinux and it's never showed that problem there07:47
maddashhjmills: firefox, totem, etc...they all look too oldschool for me07:47
alex-weejlode_: i'm just kidding :P07:47
hjmillsmaddash: lol07:47
AnRkeyI have just installed edubuntu here for testing and my /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf file is empty. Does anyone have an example file for me? a pastebin of it would be handy07:47
maddashhjmills: did you read my original comment? gtk-theme-switch is only for gtk1 themes....07:47
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Afiefmaddash: firefox can download many nice themes, even a vista theme if you like:)07:47
hjmillsmaddash: there is a version for gtk2 themes - i used it on fluxbox07:47
mnoirhjmills: does dmesg|grep eth help?07:48
maddashhjmills: there doesn't seem to be a gtk2-theme-switch or a gtk-theme-switch2 in the ubuntu repos07:48
Afiefmaddash: and gnome can look like vista as well, i think it was called vista-gtk2 theme07:48
maddashAfief: read my msgs. I don't have gnome.07:48
Afiefmaddash: what do you have?07:48
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maddashhjmills: do you recall what package you used for the fluxbox?07:49
hjmillsmaddash: run switch2 from a term07:49
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hjmillsmaddash: its in the gtk-theme-switch package - that has 2 binaries - one for gtk1  and one for gtk207:49
maddashhjmills: thanks dude.07:49
jmhodgeshey, my swapon is saying that the UUID of my swap partition is "invalid" when i run swapon -a07:50
jmhodgesi havent touched my fstab.. what can i do?07:50
alex-weejjmhodges: check your /etc/fstab07:50
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maddashhjmills: good god. just looking at these butt-ugly controls is enough to cause a stroke.07:50
alex-weejjmhodges: and look at "lshal | less" to verify that your UUIDs match07:50
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jmhodgeswhat am i looking for in lshal?07:51
psynaps3Ah, sorry to disturb you folks again, but just one last confirmation before i commit the changes. :)07:51
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hjmillsmaddash: happy to help07:51
alex-weejjmhodges: your swap volume07:51
anksI need to make one distro starting from ubuntu can anybody help me please07:51
alex-weejhjmills: type "/swap" in less to search for "swap"07:51
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hjmillsanks there is some great stuff on the wiki07:51
psynaps3Partition table - Diagnostic (fat16 - 110mb - Primary), XP (ntfs, 30GB, Primary), Boot (ext3, 128mb, Primary), Swap (swap, 1gb, logical), root (ext3, 20gb, logical), home (ext3, 10gb, logical) and Shared (fat32, 50gb, logical)07:51
alex-weejpsynaps3: all on one disk?07:51
psynaps3does that look fine07:52
jmhodgesalex-weej: i assume that /swap was for me.. and i already had07:52
psynaps3yes07:52
alex-weejpsynaps3: overkill.07:52
psynaps3its a 120gb drive07:52
hjmillsanks: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e0607:52
jmhodgesalex-weej: there's nothing mentiong swap in there07:52
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psynaps3overkill? as in?07:52
Pierre_Nhi07:52
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alex-weejjmhodges: try running hal-device-manager07:52
AfiefPierre_N: hi07:52
alex-weejjmhodges: it's a graphical equivalent07:52
jmhodgesalex-weej: right07:53
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alex-weejjmhodges: look under your hard disk controller for your hard disks and try to find the swap partition you have07:53
Pierre_Nwhen I run synaptic as root, it looks poo, like the gtk theme isn't being applied - I've tried running gnome-theme-manager as root (and gtk-theme-switch) but they aren't changing the gtk2 theme - any ideas07:53
Pierre_N?07:53
alex-weejpsynaps3: do you really need a fat16 partition?07:53
ankshjmills, thanks07:53
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hjmillsPierre_N: make sure the theme you want is in /usr/share/themes not in ~/.themes07:53
alex-weejPierre_N: your gtk theme is installed in /home/pierre/.themes07:53
psynaps3alex-weej: that's the dell diagnostic partition. I can't take it out.07:53
Pierre_Nthanks peeps07:53
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hjmillsmnoir: that showd me something (grep eth) but didnt say much - just the mac addr07:54
hjmillsmnoir: im currently doing a dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`07:54
ubuntuAm I able to put something on my Windows NTFS partition from Ubuntu Live? My internet isn't working on Windows and I need to install a driver07:54
Pierre_Nwoot, fixed! (thanks again)07:54
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my_hazhow do i record my voice with Ubuntu?07:54
alex-weejubuntu: not easily07:54
jmhodgesalex-weej: found it07:55
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psynaps3how about the rest of the partitions? i have taken into account all the information that i could gather to come up with that :)07:55
my_hazwhat tool do i use to record my voice into mp3 for example07:55
mnoirhmm - might work, i am wondering if your loadable mods are right07:55
alex-weejubuntu: Microsoft NTFS is closed and proprietary, any support we have for it is reverse engineered and isn't guaranteed to not hose your system07:55
mnoir!ntfs07:55
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse07:55
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jmhodgesalex-weej: bonus, its volume.uuid is false and so is its volume.fstype07:55
hjmillsmnoir: no luck there - the loadable mods wont be right - the install is set for a diff mobo, cpu and everythong07:55
alex-weejmy_haz: gst-launch gconfaudiosrc ! vorbisenc ! oggmux ! filesink location=recorded.ogg07:56
jmhodgesalex-weej: er. i mean its volume.uuid is blank and so is its volume.fstype07:56
mnoiralexthan needs to be in the !ntfs output!07:56
ubuntualex-weej: Is there any other way I can transfer the driver to Windows? I don't have a CD burner07:56
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alex-weejjmhodges: run mkswap /dev/sdWHATEVER07:56
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my_hazalex-weej: whoa thats a big command07:56
alex-weejubuntu: you need to ask on #windows07:56
jmhodgesvery very odd07:56
jmhodgesits worked fine for ages07:56
hjmillsmy_haz: i think there is a sound-recorder program then use a converter to make it something else07:56
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alex-weejjmhodges: did you recently upgrade distribution?07:57
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wyatt_earpanyone know how i can install the 32bit pam on an amd64 system?07:57
tannerldwhats the best way to set up dual monitors?07:57
hjmillstannerld: what gfx card?07:57
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jmhodgesnot so recently.. maybe i just didnt notice however.. i only saw the swap init fail because my harddrve was at its 30 times-no-scan limit07:57
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alex-weejjmhodges: if you change your fstab to use /dev/sdWHATEVER it will work07:58
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s0nixhi07:58
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tannerldhjmills: ati07:58
ubuntuHow would I mount my Windows partition?07:58
alex-weejjmhodges: but the "in" way of doing it these days is to use UUIDs, as it prevents problems when swapping disks in and out of your system07:58
alex-weejjmhodges: simply mkswap'ing will create a UUID for it07:58
jmhodgesalex-weej: just did the mkswap business, i'll toss the new UUID in fstab07:58
jmhodgeser.. heh, exactly07:59
alex-weejjmhodges: did it show up in HAL>?07:59
hjmillstannerld: check in the wiki - probably easiest to use the X org way rather than any ATI way if there is one but Im an nVidia user myself im afraid07:59
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jmhodgesalex-weej: hunh, just restarted hal-device-manager.. and it looks like no07:59
s0nixanyone can help me to solve this problem: s0nix@PARANOID:~$ java -classpath . NW-E003_MP3_File_Manager-0.10.jar ----------------- Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: NW-E003_MP3_File_Manager-0/10/jarvvv07:59
ubuntuHow would I mount my Windows partition?07:59
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mnoir!ntfs08:00
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alex-weejjmhodges: possibly you need to restart HAL to get it to pick up on the disk changes - try a reboot08:00
jmhodgesalex-weej: ah08:00
s0nixjava version "1.5.0_08"08:00
jmhodgesfun fun08:00
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lorenz_join/ #reload08:00
jmhodgesbrb then08:00
hjmillss0nix: thats a java problem from the looks of it - did you write it?08:00
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alwahello can someon help me08:00
s0nixhjmills:  no, i got only the .jar08:00
hjmillslorenz_: you mean <slash>join #reload (i.e. /join #reload)08:00
erUSUL!info apt-cache search ktechlab08:01
ubotuPackage apt-cache does not exist in edgy08:01
mnoiralwa: not unless you ask an ubuntu question08:01
erUSUL!info ktechlab08:01
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hjmillss0nix: oh ok - best way is to fix it if u can get the source and know java or check it has everything it needs or find a new program08:01
ubuntuis it supposed to say sda?08:01
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n2diyalwa: not unless you ask a question.08:02
mnoirubuntu: that is a valid type08:02
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hjmills!ask08:02
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:02
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s0nixhjmills: im sure the .jar work perfectly cher vous08:02
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alwai have some problem with my wlan card (broadcom4318)08:03
s0nix"cher vous" = on your pc08:03
mnoir!wlan08:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:03
hjmillss0nix: how come?08:03
alex-weej!wifi08:03
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:03
alwai have read the docu08:03
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alwai have bcm43xx installed and now ndiswrapper08:04
s0nixhjmills: it probably (and surely) a stupid problem of classpath08:04
hjmillsalwa: search the wiki and forum for your card08:04
aphexianjfgi - Jewish Federation of Greater Indianapolis ;)08:04
hjmillss0nix: im afraid i dont know java....08:04
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miljenkohay from croatia08:04
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maddashhas anyone ever tried to "sudo apt-get|aptitude remove apt" ?08:04
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alex-weejmaddash: if you do that you'll have to bootstrap your system08:04
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alex-weejmaddash: i.e. don't.08:04
crippledcanaryalwa: I also have a 431808:05
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maddashalex-weej: what do you mean? I don't need apt to boot up...right?08:05
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crippledcanaryalwa: and i have got it working without ndiswrapper in edgy.08:06
alwacrippledcanary: in a tm44 notebook08:06
acuozzoHow is everyone? Can anyone read what I am writing?08:06
alex-weejmaddash: nah, apt has a lot of important dependants, uninstalling it will uninstall them08:06
ubuntuhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter -- doesn't exist anymore :\08:06
crippledcanaryalwa: I've got a aspire 300308:06
acuozzoI have a Travelmate 4654!08:06
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alex-weejmaddash: basically you'll need to go around reinstalling stuff without apt08:07
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hjmillswhat is run when you install linux to detect the hardware?08:07
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alex-weejhjmills: the kernel...08:07
maddashalex-weej: so is there any way I could "seal shut" a computer, ie, disable any installation/removal of packages, while still retaining the ability to use the existing packages?08:07
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alex-weejmaddash: not to my knowledge08:07
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hjmillsalex-weej: so why does the kernel not redetect my hardware when i move the hdd into another machine? my network no longer works08:08
oronetahola a todos y felices fiestas08:08
mnoir!es08:08
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.08:08
mnoirhappy happy anyway :)08:08
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oronetasorry08:08
alex-weejmaddash: hjmills, ah... that's not hardware detection - that's hardware configuration08:08
acuozzoDoes anyone see what I am writing?08:08
alex-weejmaddash: not you08:08
alex-weejhjmills: ^^08:08
n2diymaddash: alex-weej, create an alias that sends the apt-get command to null?08:08
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alex-weejn2diy: woah08:09
alex-weejn2diy: easy to hack :P08:09
alwais it an problem if i have the normal "cablecard" up and on dhcp mode08:09
maddashn2diy: ditto alex-weej08:09
mnoircool - security by cumbersomeness08:09
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hjmillsalex-weej: is it possible to get it to reconfigure the network devices then?08:09
n2diymaddash: alex-weej, not for a newbie.08:09
alex-weejhjmills: certainly, one second08:09
alex-weejn2diy: why are you giving newbies admin access?08:09
Jay2anybody figured out how to install a Benq Prisa 1240UT08:09
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alex-weejnon-admins can't use apt at all08:10
alex-weejso it's not a problem08:10
oronetamerry xmas, bye!08:10
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n2diyalex-weej: Who said anything about giving them admin access?08:10
crippledcanaryalwa: have you tried Network-Manager and nm-applet08:10
maddashalex-weej: I'm not. I'm going to open a terminal for near-public access, but there could be some newbies who feel compelled to sudo apt-get something08:10
xelueeeeeeeeeeeeeee08:10
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chickygocheer4uhey08:10
alex-weejmaddash: why are they able to sudo?08:10
hjmillsmaddash: dont give them root access?08:11
gatenmaddash:  dont give them sudo. simple08:11
chickygocheer4uwhat??08:11
mnoirmaddash: which will be rejected since you won't put them in the admin group08:11
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sysrplhello08:11
crippledcanaryalwa: I have configured for nm to take care of my cable and wireless and it switches ok.08:11
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chickygocheer4uwho do i puit new software on my computer08:11
humeis there a way to have knetworkmanager connect to a WEP encrypted WLAN without having to type in wallet password each time?08:11
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n2diychickygocheer4u: click on system-admin-synaptic08:11
maddashhjmills: yeah, but being able to sudo in the first place...might look unprofessional08:11
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chickygocheer4uhow do i put new software on my computer****08:11
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n2diychickygocheer4u: click on system-admin-synaptic08:12
VR_Is the "alternate" ubuntu ISO with the text installation?08:12
alwaokay thx crippledcanary08:12
alex-weejchickygocheer4u: Applications -> Add/Remove08:12
hjmillsmaddash: but they cant - they can try bt it just gets reported to the sys admin and denied08:12
chickygocheer4ui cant get in that08:12
miguelhi all08:12
hjmillsVR_: yes08:12
alex-weejchickygocheer4u: why not?08:12
mnoirmadpls splain why you would give them sudo access?08:12
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VR_hjmills: Thanks08:12
n2diyVR_: yes, it is called the Alternative CD.08:12
miguelhas anyone successfully configured a Linksys WUSB54GR on Edgy?08:12
chickygocheer4ubc mystdep brother has the password and he wont tell me08:12
maddashhuh?? stupid tinyirc...it's screwing up whenever i resize xterm geez08:12
chickygocheer4ustep***08:13
alex-weejchickygocheer4u: then you can't use the packaging system, sorry08:13
hjmillschickygocheer4u: you need the password to install stuff - sorry08:13
chickygocheer4ufuck08:13
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chickygocheer4usry08:13
VR_hjmills, n2diy: the alternative CD still has the gnome/kde desktop though, right?08:13
alex-weejchickygocheer4u:  go and ask him to install something08:13
acuozzoCan anyone read what I am writing?08:13
VR_or would i have to apt-get it08:13
alex-weejacuozzo: hi :P08:13
n2diyVR_: I don't know.08:13
hjmillsacuozzo: yes08:13
acuozzoHi :) Thank you.08:13
PriceChildchickygocheer4u: reboot into single user mode08:14
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acuozzoNickServ was messing with me.08:14
chickygocheer4uhow08:14
chickygocheer4u?08:14
hjmillsalex-weej: any luck on how to reconfigure the network stuff?08:14
sysrpli have a pc that kind of took a crap  (possibly). the video no longer works. i tried swapping out video cards, but that didn't fix the problem. to salvage the board, what should i try next?08:14
acuozzoAnyone else here use an Acer laptop?08:14
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sysrpli also disconnected the drives, and tried different memory, but i still can't get the video to output anything. any advice would be appreciated08:14
alex-weejhjmills: you need to debconf something but i can't remember what - have you tried installing networkmanager?08:14
alex-weejnetworkmanager deals with all this kind of jazz08:14
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hjmillssysrpl: probably a duff mobo - try a pci gfx card08:14
chickygocheer4ui dodnt know anything about computers08:15
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alex-weejhjmills: actually08:15
chickygocheer4ucant you tell08:15
alex-weejhjmills: you using GNOME?08:15
chickygocheer4uyes08:15
hjmillsalex-weej: no - its a server :(08:15
sysrplhjmills: i don't have any pci video cards lying around :(08:15
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alwacrippledcanary: network-mananger scanns but dont find my router08:15
alex-weejhjmills: look in /etc/netwrok08:15
sysrplhjmills: duff?08:15
alex-weejhjmills: /etc/network08:15
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crippledcanaryalwa: have you ever got wireless to work?08:16
acuozzoHas anyone been able to get the 3d acceleration working nicley with i915?08:16
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alex-weejsysrpl: does your computer POST?08:16
hjmillssysrpl: so it has no onboard or that doesnt work and the agp slot dosnt seem to work? try pci if u want or replace the mobo or install a server ubuntu and from memory set it up on ssh and login remotely08:16
hjmillsalex-weej: thanks :D08:16
ubuntuhow do i move files?08:16
ubuntuin terminal08:16
acuozzocp08:16
alex-weejubuntu: drag and drop? :E08:16
alwayes08:16
Afiefubuntu mv [src]  [dst] 08:17
aphexianmv08:17
acuozzo*sudo* (if needed) [file]  cp [dir] 08:17
ubuntuthanks.08:17
mnoirubuntu: man mv08:17
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acuozzooh yeah :)08:17
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acuozzoSo any i915 gpu users?08:17
crippledcanaryalwa: have you got it to work with your router using nework-manager when disconnected from cable?08:17
ubuntumv: cannot create regular file `/media/windows/Drivers.zip': Read-only file system08:18
ubuntuwhat does that mean?08:18
sysrplhjmills: it would be hard to install anything on it as it has no video to see what i need to respond to during install08:18
acuozzoah wait08:18
edgyHi, how can I set the timezone in ubuntu from command line?08:18
tannerldI got ubuntu installed on my new computer (its boots and everything), but moving windows is slow and glxgears very slowly works.08:18
acuozzodo you have a fat32 filesystem on your computer ubuntu?08:18
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acuozzoare you dual-booting?08:18
ubuntuacuozzo: ntfs08:18
Qaldunetannerld got nvidia card?08:19
acuozzoah, so you're dual-booting?08:19
tannerldQaldune: no, ati08:19
metromanWhere do I get KVM?08:19
ubuntuacuozzo: no, i need to transfer the drivers over to my windows because my internet isn't working on windows08:19
Qaldunehave u installed graphic card drivers?08:19
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acuozzoand you mounted the ntfs partition?08:19
acuozzoin ubuntu08:19
ubuntuacuozzo: yes, in /media/windows08:19
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lerneaen_hydra>does anyone know if there's an easy way to get a partitioning tool similar to the one used in the alternate install CD (text based)?08:19
acuozzohmm...08:19
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Qalduneqparted08:20
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Afieflerneaen_hydra: gparted is pretty good08:20
acuozzomaybe you can change the read-write access of the /media/windows08:20
mnoirlerneaen_hydra: it is called parted (the text version)08:20
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ubuntuacuozzo: how?08:20
coopsterdoes anyone know if there's a very signifigant difference between hardware RAID and fakeraid under ubuntu, when used as a personal fileserver (so not a high-demand/stress environment)08:20
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jmhodgesalex-weej: thanks. that was it. changed the uuid in fstab and hit swapon -a again and all better08:21
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alex-weejjmhodges: sweet08:21
acuozzo(i don't remember the modes, but...) sudo chmod 777 '/media/windows'08:21
alex-weejjmhodges: now a question08:21
lerneaen_hydramnoir: is parted exactly the same as the one used in the text install?08:21
alex-weejjmhodges: when did you create the swap partition?08:21
acuozzo777 (i believe) = full access08:21
acuozzoyou may want to research it first08:21
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cmarnellcoopster, if it is software raid through ubuntu, if you hard drive dies you will still loose everything08:21
jmhodgesalex-weej: many moons ago when i upgraded to the (stable) Edgy08:21
mnoirlerneaen_hydra: I believe so08:21
acuozzojmhodges: is that possible?! :)08:22
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alex-weejjmhodges: looks like there was a bug there - whatever created your swap partition did it badly08:22
lynucsacuozzo: you grant writing permissions for a ntfs partition?08:22
ubuntuacuozzo: chmod: changing permissions of `/media/windows': Read-only file system08:22
alex-weejjmhodges: but all is well now08:22
jmhodgesalex-weej: yep, appears so08:22
mnoirlerneaen_hydra: not positive08:22
Qalduneleneaen_hydra have u tried cfdisk?08:22
jmhodgesacuozzo: heh08:22
Alakazamz0rubuntu do NOt do that.08:22
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acuozzoas I said, research it first08:22
Qalduneit's a lot easier than it seems like08:22
lerneaen_hydramnoir: it seems to be more command-based08:22
ubuntuAlakazamz0r: what then? :\08:22
lynucsubuntu: if you have a ntfs partition, better dont write on it from linux08:22
Alakazamz0rubuntu edit your /etc/fstab file08:23
mnoir!ntfs08:23
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse08:23
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ubuntulynucs: the Drivers.zip is written from NTFS08:23
coopsterdoes anyone know how/if ubuntu works with fakeraid setups?08:23
lerneaen_hydraQaldune: was that adressed to me?08:23
Qalduneyes08:23
ubuntuAlakazamz0r: i already did08:23
lerneaen_hydraI'll test it then08:23
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Qaldunesudo cfdisk08:23
Alakazamz0rUbuntu, did you remount the partition08:23
hjmillsalex-weej: nothing in /etc/network works :(08:23
lynucsubuntu: its a risk to write on ntfs partition.. might loose your data08:23
Alakazamz0rumount -a && mount -a08:23
Alakazamz0r?08:23
ubuntuum08:24
ubuntulet me try08:24
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alex-weejhjmills: could you explain exactly what's happening to me?08:24
Alakazamz0rand ubuntu like lynucs said, i wouldn't write to my NTFS partition (if i had one)08:24
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alex-weejhjmills: or perhaps if you're not having much luck with us, open a support ticket on launchpad08:24
SamChestidohi08:24
SurfnKidanyone know what a COU is?08:24
ubuntuAlakazamz0r: but the zip i'm transferring over is ntfs08:24
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SamChestidoI have a question08:24
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SurfnKidin the subject of CPU and Chips08:24
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SamChestidois it possible to hide the gnome-panel in one of the workspaces?08:24
lynucsubuntu: better create a FAT partition as exchange partition for linux/windows08:24
Alakazamz0rubuntu are you getting it from NTFS08:24
ubuntuAlakazamz0r: i created the zip on my other computer which is ntfs, then i put it on my hosting, then downloading it08:24
Alakazamz0ror putting it to NTFS08:25
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tannerldI got ubuntu installed on my new computer (its boots and everything), but moving windows is slow and glxgears very slowly works.08:25
acuozzoI did preface it with "research it first"...so no flames Alakaz :)08:25
Alakazamz0rthen you dont need write permissions ubuntu, only read permissions.08:25
ski-worklaphmm08:25
Alakazamz0ryeah acuozzo ;)08:25
hjmillsalex-weej: i am setting up a dedicated server using a hard drive with it all already installed but as it was installed with different hardware it isnt working now the hardware has changed - it all boots but the network interface it used to have cannot be found and it wont find my new interface08:25
ubuntuAlakazamz0r: huh? I need to transfer my zip to windows, so i would need write permissions08:25
ski-worklapanyone else have a problem with ubuntu where the system beep character isn't converted into any sound in gnome?08:25
lufisHey guys. I'm looking into archiving a lot of my audio CDs losslessly with FLAC and was wondering if Soundjuicer would do a professional enough job08:25
alex-weejhjmills: what is the new interface hardware?08:25
Alakazamz0rHow bigs the zipfile.08:25
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ski-worklapi tried changing the prefs in the sound system preference applet, but it still no workie08:25
alex-weejlufis: yes indeed.08:26
Alakazamz0rwhy dont you upload it to flyupload.com08:26
ski-worklapany ideas?08:26
KaLimeRo-How i can Fotmat and Install the Ubuntu from the CD like i did before with WindowsXP ??08:26
xanexAlakazamz0r: its located in www.xenex.weeki.org/Drivers.zip -- its 43mb08:26
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alex-weejKaLimeRo-: the ubuntu installer will take care of formatting for you08:26
Qaldunekalimero try putting the cd in the drive08:26
acuozzoubuntu, can you actually get on the windows (assuming) install?08:26
aphexianKalimero: you can just boot from the install cd08:26
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Alakazamz0rxanex, i dont understand what you're trying to do.08:26
xanexer 49mb08:26
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magic_ninja!gstreamer08:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:26
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KaLimeRo-alex-weej what do you mean ?08:27
xanexAlakazamz0r: I need to get Drivers.zip onto my Windows partition because I need the ethernet driver08:27
Alakazamz0rand xanex Xanax is spelled Xanax, if thats what you were going for.08:27
alex-weejKaLimeRo-: just boot the CD and click "install"08:27
magic_ninjawhats the name of the gstreamer wav plugin (so i can use soundcoverter to convert to wave)08:27
Alakazamz0rxanex, why dont you download it and burn it to a CD?08:27
xanexAlakazamz0r: its just a temp nick, i was getting tired of highlighting08:27
lufismagic_ninja: wavenc?08:27
xanexAlakazamz0r: i only have 1 burner, which is being used by the livecd08:27
hjmillsalex-weej: its a built in ethernet port on the mobo08:27
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acuozzowho is xanex? is xanex ubuntu?08:27
xanexyes08:27
acuozzoah08:27
skenmyHi all. I'm trying to get my "direct rendering" to show as Yes by installing the NVidia drivers. However it seems that the openglx server is still showing as SGI, and I can't uninstal mesa without uninstaling the whole of X through apt / Synaptic. Would anyone be willing to help me out with that one?08:27
acuozzohello08:27
magic_ninjalufis: is it a prog sir?08:27
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Alakazamz0rxanex, USB drive?08:27
hjmillsalex-weej: just a thought - would it have been picked up as eth1?08:27
Alakazamz0rstick?08:27
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xanexAlakazamz0r: none.08:27
alecjwmagic_ninja: i thought that gstreamer could play wav's out of the box08:27
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lufismagic_ninja: I don't think so, it's a gstreamer plugin08:28
acuozzoxanex, can you get on the (assuming) windows installation? or is this why you are accessing it from ubuntu...?08:28
Alakazamz0rcrap.08:28
lufismagic_ninja: it might be called something else08:28
mnoirhjmills: do you have an onboard eth enabled and a card??08:28
Alakazamz0ri duno bro08:28
xanexacuozzo: yes i can use windows but the internet doesn't work08:28
Alakazamz0ryou can try making it writable.08:28
Alakazamz0ri wouldn't08:28
magic_ninjaalecjw: it can play them...but for some reason sound converter won't convert them and gives me a gstreamer plugin error...i can get you the error if you like08:28
alex-weejhjmills: that really shouldn't matter08:28
hjmillsmnoir: I have onboard eth and no card - eth is enabled08:28
KaLimeRo-alex-weej u mean just install from the windows and its will formt is salf ?08:28
alex-weejhjmills: what does "sudo ifconfig" tell you?08:28
Alakazamz0r/dev/hda3 /mnt/ntfs_p ntfs-3g defaults,umask=0 0 008:28
acuozzowell, Alakaz, can't he just change it back after writing the one file?08:28
Alakazamz0rthat'd do it.08:28
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mnoirhjmills: that should enable as eth0 then08:28
alex-weejKaLimeRo-: no, burn the ISO CD image to a CD-R, then boot from the CD-R08:28
alex-weejKaLimeRo-: do you know how to boot from a CD-R?08:29
xanex/dev/sda1   /media/windows   ntfs   ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=000008:29
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xanexi put that in fstab08:29
acuozzohmm...08:29
KaLimeRo-no..08:29
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Alakazamz0rntfs-3g not ntfs08:29
alex-weej!boot08:29
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto08:29
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xanexAlakazamz0r: that's what the wiki said :\08:29
Alakazamz0rxanex, http://ciscosurfing.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/ntfs-using-ntfs-3g/08:29
mnoirhjmills: have you tried just booting the live cd??08:29
Alakazamz0rread that.08:29
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MyStiC1985can't he just use the bios cd-boot?08:30
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magic_ninja!soundconverter08:30
ubotusoundconverter: convert sound files to other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 300 kB08:30
hjmillsmnoir: that will work - the hard ware is fine - i just need to run programs on this hard drive08:30
xanexAlakazamz0r: sudo aptitude install ntfs-3g08:30
xanexer08:30
xanexAlakazamz0r: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "ntfs-3g"08:30
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hjmillsmnoir: alex-weej: sudo ifconfig just show stuff for lo08:30
skenmyAnyone available to help me get this issue sorted out?08:30
gatenim having some samba issues. im running samba from my ubuntu server (edgy) and trying to connected from my ubuntu desktop (drapper). ive set the passwd w/ smbpasswd and included the user in the /etc/passwd file, but i still can't login. it wont accept my password. any ideas?08:30
mnoirhjmills: just a brain spasm - sorry08:30
alex-weejhjmills: then your ethernet hardware has not been discovered08:30
acuozzoxanex: have you changed your sources.list?08:30
KaLimeRo-if i burned its allready?08:30
xanexacuozzo: don't think so08:31
acuozzookay08:31
Some_Personi finally got edgy installed, and my internet magically works, unlike on dapper, where i couldn't get it to work08:31
alex-weejhjmills: run "lspci" and find your ethernet hardware08:31
acuozzoAlakaz, would it be available in universe?08:31
Alakazamz0rdude... xanex08:31
hjmillsalex-weej: no - but how would ubuntu know to look as it wont know its moved from one pc to another08:31
SamChestidois it possible to hide the gnome-panel in one of the workspaces?08:31
mnoirhjmills: so dmesg shows no comm-like stuff...08:31
Alakazamz0rREAD THE PAGE I SENT YOU!08:31
alex-weejhjmills: this stuff really is dynamic08:31
alex-weejhjmills: we have had dynamic hardware detection for ages :)08:31
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Alakazamz0rFirst you will need to add a repository to your source.list. Open a terminal and type:08:31
sparklinghi all08:31
mnoiryeah - the os has to detect every time!08:31
Alakazamz0rAt the end of the file, just add one of the following mirrors:08:31
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alex-weejSamChestido: no sorry08:32
acuozzoxanex: you know how to edit your souces.list?08:32
hjmillsalex-weej: odd - the new must be blocked by a memoru of the old08:32
alex-weejhjmills: i suspect it's more a case of unsupported hardware08:32
alex-weejhjmills: just find out what it is with lspci08:32
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KaLimeRo-alex-weej u can pme?08:32
mnoirhj - do you know the right driver for it? can you install and modeprobe it?08:32
hjmillsalex-weej: no - its worked out of the box with dapper before08:32
alex-weejKaLimeRo-: sure08:32
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schlonzocan anybody pls tell me how i can write on my windoze partition?08:32
alex-weejhjmills: lspci! now!!!08:32
Captain_HaddockWhen I try to start the dhcp server I run into this error message:08:33
mnoir!ntfs08:33
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse08:33
Captain_Haddockdhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth1 (10.0.0.1).08:33
mikehow can i record sound of what my sound card is playing?08:33
Captain_HaddockHow do I fix this?08:33
alecjwschlonzo: TRY NTFS-3G08:33
ski-worklapschlonzo, first get a magic marker and a screwdriver.08:33
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alecjwschlonzo: sorry. caps lock08:33
KaLimeRo-i need u 2 send me a pm cus im unregistered08:33
MyStiC1985lspci |grep net <<--gives out your ethernet card08:33
sparklingsomeone of you have an ATI x1950 pcie or agp? if so have you tested with ubuntu?08:33
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HymnToLife!register | KaLimeRo-08:33
ubotuKaLimeRo-: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration08:33
acuozzoQuestion to everyone: Is there a way to run a bash script at startup which requires sudo (granted that I am not a full sudoer)?08:33
hjmillsmnoir and alex-weej: its 11ab:4620 (marvell gigabit adaptor)08:34
Captain_HaddockMyStiC1985: that  for me?08:34
tannerldI got ubuntu installed on my new computer (its boots and everything), but moving windows is slow and glxgears very slowly works.08:34
mnoirhjmills: i dunno the correct driver....08:34
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HymnToLifetannerld, install correct drivers for your video card08:34
acuozzotannerld: it may be that you do not have the 3d accel. drivers installed?08:34
acuozzotannerld: do you have NVIDIA, ATI, SIS...etc?08:35
alex-weejhjmills: type "dmesg | grep -i marvell"08:35
skenmyCan anyone assist me with my direct rendering problem?08:35
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alex-weejskenmy: just ask08:35
acuozzoskenmy: What's up?08:35
skenmyI already did :)08:35
skenmyHi all. I'm trying to get my "direct rendering" to show as Yes by installing the NVidia drivers. However it seems that the openglx server is still showing as SGI, and I can't uninstal mesa without uninstaling the whole of X through apt / Synaptic. Would anyone be willing to help me out with that one?08:35
mon^rchhas anyone got experience with NTFS-3G08:35
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MyStiC1985captain_haddock: no for hjmills08:35
schlonzohe says that i dont have the right to write on my hdb108:35
acuozzoskenmy: can't help there...sorry.08:35
Captain_HaddockMyStiC1985: ah, ok thanks.08:35
schlonzoroot?08:35
skenmyOkay :)08:35
tannerldacuozzo: ati08:35
Captain_Haddockdhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth1 (10.0.0.1). <--- anybody know where I can correct this?08:36
acuozzoah, one second tannerld...you're in luck.08:36
ski-worklapCaptain_Haddock, probably in /etc/network/interfaces08:36
hjmillsalex-weej: no output - i tried a few other things as well08:36
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HymnToLifeor gksudo network-admin if you like nice GUIs08:36
tannerldacuozzo: thanks :)08:36
acuozzotannerld: what card? radeon? etc? (if so)...what numbers?08:36
schlonzohe says i dont have the right to write on my hdb108:36
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MyStiC1985has anybody experience in fixing resolution issues in xorg.conf with widescreen notebooks?08:37
alex-weejhjmills: try "dmesg | grep -i eth"08:37
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Captain_Haddockski-worklap: it has :08:37
Captain_Haddockaddress 10.0.0.108:37
Captain_Haddocknetmask 255.255.255.008:37
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tannerldacuozzo: trying to find out...08:37
Captain_Haddockski-worklap: so what could be wrong?08:37
swede2how do i gain the rights to make changes to xorg?08:37
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HymnToLifeMyStiC1985, what kind of videocard do you have ?08:37
hjmillsalex-weej: that gives me some info inc a mac addr but i dont know if thats the old or new one08:37
kcinnahey all08:37
alex-weejhjmills: do you have the old one still attached?08:37
kcinnaanyone know where i can find firmware upgrades for my dvd burner that work with linux?08:37
acuozzotannerld: run 'lspci' (no apostrophe) in the terminal08:37
alex-weej!paste | hjmills08:37
ubotuhjmills: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:37
hjmillsalex-weej: would the kernel that is installed be identical to that in the installer?08:37
alex-weejhjmills: absolutely08:38
Captain_Haddockswede2: probably using "sudo"?08:38
acuozzotannerld: look around for it08:38
MyStiC1985HymnToLife: piece of crab shared mem card Intel GMA 95008:38
ski-worklapCaptain_Haddock, hmm i dunno. where are you seeing this error message, exactly?08:38
HymnToLife!915resolution > MyStiC198508:38
Captain_Haddockswede2: "sudo vi filename".08:38
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ski-worklapcan you pastebin it and what surrounds it?08:38
acuozzoMyStiC1985: me too! on my laptop!!!!!!!08:38
Captain_Haddockski-worklap: in syslog. I get this when I try starting dhcpd08:38
hjmillsalex-weej: hmmm - the old one was an onboard on a diff mobo - im gonna find a pci card08:38
alex-weejhjmills: paste the dmesg output onto the paste service08:38
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ski-worklapCaptain_Haddock, oh08:38
ski-worklapin your dhcpd.conf08:38
MyStiC1985yeah acuzzo. i'll try the fix and contact you back then.08:39
MyStiC1985thant you HymnOfLive. I'll try08:39
acuozzowhich fix?08:39
HymnToLifeMyStiC1985, 915resolution is what you need08:39
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ski-worklap /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf08:39
cactiI need help with the 'radeon' driver. It appears to be loaded for my Radeon RV200 QW (the wiki says fully supported), but I'm not getting direct rendering . . . HELP!08:39
acuozzo915resolution? are you just looking to the change the res?08:39
acuozzoI am looking to fix the 3d acceleration08:39
alex-weejcacti: do you have the fglrx driver still installed?08:39
hjmillsalex-weej: i cant - no internet on that pc because of the network08:39
ski-worklape.g. subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.254.0 { ... }08:39
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cactialex-weej: no, I purged that from my system08:39
tannerldacuozzo: ati radeon x1300 pro08:39
Lin #alsa08:39
acuozzook one second tanner08:39
mnoirCaptain_Haddock: what does yer dhcpd config look like?08:40
alex-weejcacti: what does "glxinfo | grep -i direct" give you?08:40
Captain_Haddockski-worklap: ok, so this has to be hand configured? I have this GUI ghdhcpd thinggymebob and all :|08:40
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novais there a program for linux that can perform like "pc anywhere"08:40
nova?08:40
acuozzotannerld: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide08:40
acuozzotry that guide08:40
MyStiC1985acuozzo: changing the res is fine, but xorg.conf settings don't match the setting in the gui gnome settings08:40
schlonzohow can i get the right to write on my windoze partition!?08:40
alex-weej!vnc | nova08:40
ubotunova: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX08:40
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acuozzotannerld: (I take no responsibility)08:40
cactialex-weej: direct rendering is No and OpenGL renderer string is Mesa GLX Indirect08:40
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tannerldacuozzo: ehe, I'll take a look at it08:40
acuozzoMyStiC1985: weird08:41
alex-weejcacti: what about "grep -i direct /var/log/Xorg.0.log"?08:41
Some_Personhow can i completely disable the grub menu?08:41
acuozzoAnyone know how to execute a bash script at startup which requires sudo?08:41
schlonzohow can i get the right to write on my windoze partition!?08:41
magic_ninjaSome_Person: you dont want to08:41
mnoir!grub08:41
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:41
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Some_Personi uncommented hiddenmenu, but it waits 10 seconds to let me press escape to see it08:41
alex-weejacuozzo: system startup or desktop session startup?08:41
kcinnaanyone know where i can find firmware upgrades for my dvd burner that work with linux?08:41
The_Machinewhat's the easiest way to burn a divx movie to an 'actual' movie DVD using linux?  (like, convert-burn on the fly?)08:41
KaLimeRo-alex-weej pm!?08:41
cactialex-weej: lots of stuff, what are we looking for?08:41
Some_Personand yes, i do want to08:41
acuozzoalex-weej>: at this point...either08:42
alex-weejKaLimeRo-: i'm really sorry, i've forgotten my NickServ password and i can't chat back08:42
acuozzoi just want it to run by the time I get on my desktop and working08:42
Linhi all. I wanna enable my surround 5.1 speakers on my nforce2 snd_intel8x0 (an abit nf7 mobo). But even enabling 6 channels , surround (independ or shared), and surround channel my speakers didn't work (just front left/right). Im on ubuntu edgy, alsa 1.0.11, kernel 2.6.17. Any help?08:42
magic_ninjaSome_Person: what are you going to do when you need to use a separate boot kernel or such via grub?08:42
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alex-weejcacti: "Direct rendering is Enabled" or similar08:42
Some_Personi have a triple-boot, xp, vista, ubuntu, and vista is in the mbr, so i only want one menu08:42
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cactialex-weej:08:42
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cactione sec08:42
graftanyone in here running beryl?08:43
magic_ninja!grub08:43
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:43
acuozzosome_person: installing ubuntu last always works08:43
Some_Personand why would i want a seperate bot kernel?08:43
KaLimeRo-u can see my msg?08:43
cactialex-weej: http://pastebin.ca/29581508:43
Some_Personi did install it last08:43
acuozzowell then08:43
acuozzoyou may be able to08:43
acuozzoaccess vista and xp08:43
acuozzoby going into grup08:43
Some_Persongrub isnt in the mbr because it cant boot vista08:43
magic_ninjaSome_Person: its nice to have 2 or 3 other kernels you can boot from....that way if ther eis a problemw ith one you can use another08:43
mon^rchis anyone here using NTFS-3G?08:43
alex-weejcacti: at a terminal type LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo08:43
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acuozzoalex-weej: so no go? :(08:43
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Some_Personvista's mbr can boot xp, vista, and grub from one menu08:44
alex-weejcacti: and right at the top you should get some messages about libGL trying to load r200_dri.so or something08:44
cactialex-weej: pastebin?08:44
alex-weejcacti: yes please08:44
alex-weejacuozzo: there is a system service startup script that you can put stuff in08:44
Some_Personbut i dont want that 10 second thing, i just want it to immediately boot ubuntu08:44
acuozzorc.local?08:44
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alex-weejacuozzo: yes, /etc/rc.local08:44
acuozzoi've tried08:44
cactialex-weej: http://pastebin.ca/29582108:44
acuozzothe problem is08:44
acuozzoit will not execute because of the sudo08:45
alex-weejacuozzo: you don't need sudo08:45
alex-weejacuozzo: that script already runs as root08:45
acuozzoin my script I do08:45
siv0xHow do i update from ubuntu 6.06 to edgy? is there any way without reformatting?08:45
acuozzobecause it is a setkeycodes script08:45
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acuozzoto enable to acpi hotkeys on my laptop08:45
HymnToLife!edgy | siv0x08:45
ubotusiv0x: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes08:45
acuozzowhich works (entirely) if i execute it manually08:45
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alex-weejcacti: libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib/dri/radeon_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/radeon_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)08:46
alex-weejcacti: this is a problem :P08:46
cactiok, alex-weej how do I fix the problem?08:46
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cactiinstall that file alex-weej ?08:46
alex-weejcacti: i'm finding out what package it belongs to, just a second08:46
The_Machinewhat's the easiest way to burn a divx movie to an 'actual' movie DVD using linux?  (like, convert-burn on the fly?)08:47
alex-weejcacti: it should be part of some mesa package08:47
cactialex-weej: thank you ** On Hold **08:47
acuozzoalex-weej: the script itself uses sudo08:47
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robtpcan someone help me with a simple question in a c program?08:47
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acuozzoalex-weej: my script08:47
graftThe_Machine: there's some scripts on kde-apps.org for that sort of thing, but i've never seen a nice all-in-one package to do it08:47
alex-weejcacti: double check that libgl1-mesa-dri is installed, and if it already is, reinstall it08:47
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Some_Personplease, i want to remove that stupid 10 second thing, can i set grub to immediately boot ubuntu, no prompt to press escape?08:47
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acuozzoyes you can08:48
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alex-weejSome_Person: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst08:48
Some_Personok08:48
metromanSome_Person: Set the timer to 0.08:48
acuozzoexactly weej08:48
Some_Personok08:48
alex-weej*timeout08:48
cactialex-weej: ** Installing **08:48
The_Machinegraft: that sucks.  THanks for the tip though!08:48
alex-weejcacti: was it not installed?08:48
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acuozzoalex-weej: any ideas?08:48
alex-weejacuozzo: no, sorry08:48
Some_Personnow to reboot to test that08:48
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cactialex-weej: It wasn't installed08:48
acuozzoalex-weej: it's cool08:48
robtpive got a very simple c question, can anyone give me a bit of help with that?08:48
alex-weejacuozzo: http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu - open a support ticket08:48
acuozzothank you :)08:48
cactirobtp: don't ask to ask, just ask your question. If we know, we'll try to help08:49
tannerldacuozzo: yay, i think that worked08:49
alex-weejcacti: it really should have been installed, something is wrong with your system - do you have ubuntu-desktop installed?08:49
MyStiC1985YEAH!!!!! THANK YOU HymnToLife It's working now!08:49
cactialex-weej: nope, I'm actually running Fluxbuntu ;p08:49
alex-weejcacti: !!08:49
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robtphow is i always one without initialization: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39356/08:49
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cactialex-weej: but, it uses the dapper base, so the principles behind everything are the same ;p08:49
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cactialex-weej: ** Install is Complete ** Reboot?08:50
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alex-weejcacti: oh well... it's actually a dependent of xorg - do you not even have that installed?08:50
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robtpthe printf statement right after int i = 0; is always tellin me i=1 rather than whatever random val was @ that mem add08:50
tannerldacuozzo: glx gears isn't doing anything though now :\08:50
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alex-weejcacti: no need08:50
cactialex-weej: yes, xorg is installed08:50
luckyonedoes anyone know if there is a 64-bit build of Sunbird?08:50
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alex-weejcacti: just run glxinfo now08:50
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alex-weejcacti: it should be working immediately08:50
cactisweet08:50
cactiit is08:50
alex-weej:D08:50
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robtpcacti: you have any idea? :)08:51
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cactiI'm not a c programmer robtp08:51
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magic_ninjaany one have any reccomendations for some free mmogs or first person shooters08:51
alex-weejmagic_ninja: i like counter-strike :D08:51
robtpmagic_ninja: enemy territory08:51
cactimagic_ninja: try Wesnoth << search synaptic08:51
MyStiC1985pong ;)08:51
robtpcan anyone tell me why i always seems to be 1 @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39356/08:51
genius314Can someone help me? Flash can't play any sound.08:52
magic_ninjais planeshift any good?08:52
plumagenius314: That's easy.08:52
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robtpmagic_ninja: it will be... someday08:52
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plumagenius314: Get the beta plugin. Replace the existing file with the one in the beta version.08:52
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genius314pluma: Ok.08:52
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plumagenius314: I'm pretty sure there is a tutorial with a link somewhere. I think it's the Flash 9 Beta for Mozilla/Firefox on Linux or something like that.08:53
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robtpnobody on that *easy* c question, why is i always 1 - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39356/08:53
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magic_ninjai want to play cs but i lost my cd key08:53
plumagenius314: You'll find the file in your .mozilla directory in your home folder, I think.08:53
robtpgenius314: if youre talking about installing flash 9 beta 2, just download the .deb and dpkg -i, it works flawlessly really08:54
siv0xWhen i just tried updating to ubuntu 6.10 i got an error box, inside that box it said http://wine.lowvoice.nl/apt/dists/dapper/Release.gpg: Could not connect to wine.lowvoice.nl:80 (81.171.111.184). - connect (111 Connection refused)08:54
genius314pluma: Ok. Do I get the beta plugin from the flash website?08:54
mnoirrobtp: not many folks are much interested in the seemingly consistent results of a bad programming practice :)08:54
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robtpmnoir: hey, i didnt write it :P im just confused as to why it works08:54
KaLimeRo-How i can Format and Install the Ubuntu from the CD like i did before with WindowsXP ??08:54
hjmillsalex-weej: i have replaced the network card with a pci one and disabled the old card but i get the same errors08:54
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plumagenius314: I think so.08:55
genius314pluma: ok.08:55
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plumagenius314: You have to look around a bit, I think. Lemme check08:55
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mnoirrobtp: i wasn't criticizing you - i am sure you would never use an uninitialized var08:55
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hjmillsalex-weej ubuntu must be still looking for the old card - so much for automatic hardware detection08:55
alex-weejhjmills: it doesn't look for anything08:55
plumagenius314: I think that's it: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html08:55
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alex-weejhjmills: do dmesg > ~/dmesg08:55
alex-weejput it on a floppy08:55
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alex-weejbring it to your pc08:55
alex-weejand put it on pastebin08:55
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toko123greetings08:55
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robtpmnoir: well lets not go that far - i might - but do you understand why it consistently seems to be 1?08:56
plumagenius314: Simple unzip it and replace the existing file in...08:56
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genius314pluma: Ok, thanks.08:56
hjmillsalex-weej: ok08:56
plumagenius314: ~/.mozilla/plugins/08:56
hjmills*hunts for floppy and floppy drive....08:56
plumalibflashplayer.so I think08:56
exsdoes anyone know if you're able to take a windows xp vmware image, and extract it onto a physical ntfs partiton - then be able to boot into it with grub?08:56
tannerldglxgears doesn't show anything after I installed the ati drivers08:56
MyStiC1985can anybody help me in defining 'constant-aliases' in terminal?08:56
mnoirrobtp: prolly the block loaded into memory from disk to allocate that var is consistent.  I dunno.08:56
MyStiC1985so that they are not forgotten by opeing a new console window08:57
alex-weejMyStiC1985: if you want aliases that are set every time you start Bash (your "shell")08:57
KaLimeRo-How i can Format and Install the Ubuntu from the CD like i did before with WindowsXP ??08:57
mnoirask the c compiler writers?08:57
toko123need help 6.06.lts trying to load banshee gnupod and the like can not load Depends libatk1.0.0(>1.12.1 but 1.11.4 installed?08:57
plumagenius314: Transparency and stuff like that doesn't work yet, though. Also it seems to be a bit glitchy. Best thing you can get for Linux, though.08:57
alex-weejMyStiC1985: then edit ~/.bashrc08:57
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HymnToLifetoko123, you need to upgrade to Edgy08:57
alex-weejMyStiC1985: .bashrc is loaded every time you start bash08:57
plumagenius314: Once you've replaced it, fire up Firefox and check the version of your plugin by loading a Flash page and right-clicking on the Flash app.08:57
mnoirKaLimeRo-: this is the second time you are asking - can you ask the question a different way?08:57
toko123thanks08:57
genius314pluma: Ok.08:58
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alex-weejmnoir: he doesn't know how to do a CD boot from BIOS08:58
robtpmnoir: i dunno, its an example i saw given so i would imagine whoever wrote it wrote it to work more than once08:58
MyStiC1985alex-weej: yeah! that was what i was searching for. thank you08:58
siv0xWhen i just tried updating to ubuntu 6.10 i got an error box, inside that box it said http://wine.lowvoice.nl/apt/dists/dapper/Release.gpg: Could not connect to wine.lowvoice.nl:80 (81.171.111.184). - connect (111 Connection refused) ?08:58
plumahf08:58
alex-weejMyStiC1985: no problem :)08:58
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KaLimeRo-not really\:08:58
alex-weejsiv0x: are you using the update manager?08:58
HymnToLifesiv0x, automatix is evil, we told you :)08:58
robtpHello Channel: are there any people who could help me with a C question?08:58
Infeliz!tv-out08:58
ubotuFor help with enabling the TV-Out on certain NVidia cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition08:58
alex-weejrobtp: what's up?08:58
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HymnToLife!offtopic | robtp08:59
uboturobtp: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!08:59
siv0xalex-weej: yes i'm using the update manager.08:59
robtpalex-weej: why is i always equal to 1 in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39356/08:59
KaLimeRo-I need to format my comp .. and install the Ubuntu ... how i do that ?08:59
siv0xHymnToLife: you sure automatix caused this?08:59
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hjmillsKaLimeRo-: insert the install disk and set the bios to boot from cd then reboot08:59
HymnToLifeyeah, it added a wine repo that contains only Dapper packages08:59
HymnToLifeso obviously you can't upgrade to Edgy using it, you must change it to an Edgy repo09:00
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siv0xHymnToLife: Can i fix this so i can update?09:00
siv0xHymnToLife: Blah how do i do this? wish i would have listened now lol09:00
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alex-weejrobtp: compiler characteristic09:01
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HymnToLifesiv0x, remove that line from your sources.list09:01
HymnToLifeyour WINE won't be upgraded though$09:01
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siv0xHymnToLife: how about i remove wine and automatix09:02
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siv0xHymnToLife: Will that work?09:02
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HymnToLifethat's even better09:02
HymnToLifebut be sure to remove that line from your sources.list too09:02
siv0xHymnToLife: okay, one sec09:02
SurfnKidanyone know good Audacity manuals?09:02
siv0xHymnToLife: will you explain to me how to remove that line?09:02
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HymnToLifesudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list09:03
HymnToLifesearch for the WINE lines and delete them09:03
HymnToLifeor comment them out09:03
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tannerldglxgears doesn't show anything after I installed the ati drivers09:03
Tweeksteris there a switch for mkisofs so that i can add have a couple of directories i want to add, and it keeps the root directory.  example /share has subdirectors of listings, data, apps, managers.   and on the dvd i want to have: data, apps, listings, managers as the main directories, the command i am using is : mkisofs -o listings.iso --iso-level=2 -J -R -l -m Archive listings managers data,  and right now the result is just dropp09:03
andreas__hello09:04
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HymnToLife!hi | andreas__09:04
ubotuandreas__: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!09:04
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andreas__can anyone help with this problem:09:04
toko123HymnToLife: thanks just started upgrade from 6.06lts to 6.1009:05
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HighLifeIs is possible to copy a cd image with k3b?09:05
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andreas__I use ubuntu 6.05, but can't find a package which exists in 6.10... how do I get hold of it?09:05
siv0xHymnToLife: delete all WINE and Automatix lines?09:06
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magic_ninjacan you guys reccomend a free, nice fps aside from enemy territory?09:06
HymnToLifesiv0x, pastebin your sourcs.list, just to be sure09:06
HymnToLife!pastebin09:06
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:06
siv0xmagic_ninja: americas army09:06
Kesmanmagic_ninja: nexuiz09:06
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MyStiC1985going off. thx @all for support cu09:07
administrator__anyone ever setup an iSCSI target on linux before?09:07
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HighLifeDoes anyone know how to copy a cd image?09:07
HighLifedvd*09:07
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alex-weejHighLife: "dd"09:08
alex-weejHighLife: or a tool like gnome baker or k3b09:08
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Some_Personhow can i hide vfat/ntfs drive labels?09:08
alex-weejSome_Person: hide them from what?09:08
HighLifeYes but I'd like to save it to my harddrive in an image file09:08
Some_Personmake them not display on the desktop09:08
tannerldglxgears doesn't show anything after I installed the ati drivers; how can i fix that?09:08
Some_Personlike back in breezy, it showed the name of the folder the drive was mounted to09:09
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Some_Personin dapper and edgy, it shows the drive label09:09
administrator__HighLife, an encrypted dvd?09:09
wyatt_earpanyone ever have issues with vmware-server on amd64?09:09
HighLifeno09:09
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HighLifei just need the image09:09
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mikehow can i ripp streaming audio?09:09
HighLifejust for back up on my drive09:09
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Some_Personhow can i make it not show the drive label?09:09
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Kesmantannerld: what ati driver? fglrx or the open source one?09:10
administrator__HighLife, dd if=/dev/dvd of=dvd.iso09:10
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tannerldKesman: fglrx09:10
SupremacyGnuHello! I have problems with my USB flash disk. When I plug it in my mouse freeze as if the USB steels all the power needed. Is this because of my power supply or something else? I have a 230 w power supply. Thanks09:10
HighLifeConfused lol (I'm a windows guy)09:10
davidwinterhi all09:10
mikehow can i rip streaming audio fromr the internet?09:10
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davidwinterdoes anyone know of a app for Ubuntu that is kind of like Textmate for Mac OS X?09:10
Kesmantannerld: what does your fglrxinfo say?09:10
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davidwinterit could be the only thing preventing me from switching to Ubuntu fully09:11
alex-weejdavidwinter: what's textmate?09:11
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n2diydavidwinter: what does textmate do?09:11
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mikedavidwinter, what is textmate?09:11
lerneaen_hydrais there any good graphical app for mounting cd/dvd images to a folder?09:11
alex-weeji think he has been asked enough times09:11
tannerldKenSentMe: http://pastebin.ca/29586709:11
DeeTahPanLtahhi guys,where will i find netinst cd image,like in debian?09:11
alex-weejDeeTahPanLtah: i don't think we have one :(09:12
HymnToLife!netinst | DeeTahPanLtah09:12
mikewhat program in ubuntu will rip streaming audio?09:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about netinst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:12
DeeTahPanLtahseems like ubuntu doesn't know ;p09:12
mikelol09:12
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DeeTahPanLtahubotu**09:12
DeeTahPanLtahdamnit09:12
cactishoot09:12
robtpcan anyone tell me why beagle isnt indexing most of my files?09:12
cactiwho was it helping me in here before?09:12
HighLifeoh well ill figure the dvd thing out later09:12
atlefalternate cd will do this i think09:12
robtpcacti: i mightve been09:13
siv0xHymnToLife: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39357/09:13
Kesmantannerld: dunno about that then, what graphics card do you use?09:13
HighLifebut i am having problems with my sound card09:13
cactirobtp: no, it was another "r" person09:13
mikehow can i rip streamign audio on ubuntu?09:13
HighLifeIt's worked in the past09:13
tannerldKesman: ati radeon x1300 pro09:13
cactithe Radeon driver problem I was having09:13
alex-weejcacti: me? :E09:13
HymnToLifesiv0x, all right, delete all the Automatix crap09:13
ski-worklapmike: mencoder or ffmpeg09:13
alex-weejcacti: no r's in my name lol09:13
siv0xHymnToLife: ok09:13
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mikeski-worklap, how do they work?09:13
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cactialex-weej: o yes :) my resolution just fell apart to the smallest possible09:13
MrBallZi'm using kernel 2.6.15-23-686 , and the one I see i can upgrade to in Adept is to   2.6.17-10-386  ... is it recomended .... is there a 2.6.17-10-686  ???09:13
alex-weejcacti: eeeehneh09:14
HighLifeanyone willing to help me with my sound card?09:14
cactialex-weej: yeah, I don't know where I got an "r"09:14
Kesmantannerld: weird, it should say something like mine here: OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON X700 Generic09:14
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robtpany willing to help me with beagle not indexing anything for me?09:14
Kesmantannerld: not just generic09:14
alex-weejcacti: what happened, did you restart x11?09:14
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tannerldKesman: hmm09:14
cactialex-weej: I restarted the machine09:14
alex-weejcacti: yes then :P09:14
cactialex-weej: that was bad, eh?09:14
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alex-weejcacti: shouldn't have been :P09:15
Kesmantannerld: how about: glxinfo | grep rendering ?09:15
siv0xHymnToLife: what about were it says #AUTOMATIX REPOS END. ?09:15
alex-weejcacti: check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:15
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alex-weejcacti: look for the bit where it describes available resolutions09:15
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HymnToLifeIt has a # at the start so it's a comment09:15
tannerldKesman: direct rendering: yes09:15
cactialex-weej: what should I grep?09:15
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VMT2007ask shuttleworth? :P09:15
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HymnToLifewhether you leave it or not doesn't matter09:15
alex-weejcacti: nothing, pipe it to less and scroll through it09:15
Kesmantannerld: but there's nothing in the glxgears window?09:16
cactishoot, I don't remember how to do that alex-weej09:16
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siv0xHymnToLife: So just delete from #AUTOMATIX REPOS START to #AUTOMATIX REPOS END?09:16
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rubenHI, to access to an AP using iwconfig, the AP has 128 bits encription, this is the way to set the enc key? or what is the way?09:16
rubeniwconfig wlan0 key F9D5-11FB-0FFD-01DB-1912-1B35-2C09:16
HymnToLifeexactly09:16
cacti(or I never knew)09:16
rubenit is ok?09:16
alex-weejcacti: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less09:16
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gateni cant mount my vfat drive as rw for users. my /etc/fstab line is such: UUID=3ECF-D98B  /media/hdb5  vfat  isocharset=utf8,umask=000 0  009:16
alex-weejcacti: or just less /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:16
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cactiand look for resolutions?09:16
tannerldKesman: nope, just black09:17
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logivisionI installed codeweaver on linux and am installing a program that requires me to select a server. The program by default is looking for "My Network". How do i make the program see the server (it's a windows server)"09:17
alex-weejcacti: yeah er09:17
nkRushHi, I've tested a custom splashscreen for gnome and uninstalled it, but now I have some blue splashscreen instead of the brownish default one. How do I restore the original splashscreen?09:17
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alex-weejcacti: with RADEON09:17
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Kesmantannerld: how about fgl_glxgears ?09:17
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alex-weejcacti: type "/Supported VESA" in less09:17
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alex-weejcacti: to search for the string "Supported VESA"09:17
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HighLifeDoes anyone know how I could get my alc655 sound chipset working. It has worked on ubuntu in the past and im not sure what is wrong.09:18
cactialex-weej: pattern not found09:18
alex-weejcacti: hit home09:18
alex-weejthen try again09:18
mikeski-worklap, is there a graphical one, and a non terminal one?09:18
davidwinterTextmate is a text editor09:18
alex-weejcacti: (it only searches down)09:18
logivisionI installed codeweaver on linux and am installing a program that requires me to select a server. The program by default is looking for "My Network". How do i make the program see the server (it's a windows server)"09:18
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davidwinterhttp://macromates.com09:18
cactialex-weej: nope09:18
alex-weejdavidwinter: what do you use a text editor for?09:18
mikedavidwinter, ubuntu has its own text editor09:18
tannerldKesman: nothing09:18
alex-weejcacti: can you send your Xorg.0.log file to pastebin?09:19
tannerldKesman: thers fps output to the terminal though09:19
alex-weej!paste | cacti09:19
ubotucacti: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:19
siv0xHymnToLife: are you there?09:19
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davidwinterI use it for programming09:19
BlackMadwow09:19
HymnToLifelast time I checked, yeah, I was :p09:19
mikehow can i record streaming audio with sound recorder application in ubuntu?09:19
davidwinterbut it has some nifty features09:19
BlackMadtoo many people here09:19
logivisionI installed codeweaver on linux and am installing a program that requires me to select a server. The program by default is looking for "My Network". How do i make the program see the server (it's a windows server)"09:19
siv0xyou didnt anser me though.09:19
emunis it possible to remove the free turboprint banner from prints with turboprint09:19
alex-weejdavidwinter: many hackers use emacs/vi or their Gtk equivalents09:19
alex-weejdavidwinter: or eclipse09:19
alex-weejdavidwinter: or i use gedit with whatever plugins help me along09:20
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HymnToLife[21:16]  <siv0x> HymnToLife: So just delete from #AUTOMATIX REPOS START to #AUTOMATIX REPOS END? <= to this, I did, by the affirmative :)09:20
logivisionI installed codeweaver on linux and am installing a program that requires me to select a server. The program by default is looking for "My Network". How do i make the program see the server (it's a windows server)"09:20
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HymnToLife!repeat | logivision09:20
ubotulogivision: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience09:20
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Kesmantannerld: then I don't have any clues.. you could try to reinstall the driver and all the packages with it, but the result would be the same I think09:21
logivisionthank you09:21
logivision!patience09:21
logivisionlol09:21
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:21
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siv0xHymnToLife: k.09:21
mikecan i have help with sound recorder in ubuntu?09:21
tannerldKesman: thanks anyway :)09:21
cactialex-weej: http://pastebin.ca/29587609:21
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cactialex-weej: maybe I should reconfigure the xserver after loading that driver?09:21
alex-weejcacti: that wasn't really a driver09:21
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alex-weejcacti: that was a userland library for doing DRI stuff09:22
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siv0xHymnToLife: K done, just exit terminal now?09:22
Everflexwhat is the hard drive and partition manager in ubuntu called?09:22
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cactialex-weej: but maybe it didn't know it could do those resolutions with direct rendering and it blacklisted them?09:22
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ubuntufromlinuxhi!09:22
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fmachadoEverflex, you can use gParted09:22
KaLimeRo-alex-weej: i sucsse to enter the boot what i need 2 do now if i want to format before i install ?09:22
mnoirEverflex: gparted?09:22
HymnToLife!hi | ubuntufromlinux09:22
ubotuubuntufromlinux: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!09:22
Everflexthanks!09:23
alex-weejcacti: it doesn't quite work like that, but doing a "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will fix the situation09:23
ubuntufromlinuxgood system09:23
alex-weejcacti: follow the instructions (BE CAREFUL because if you make a mistake you can't go back, it's a bitch :P)09:23
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tannerld!hi \ ubotu09:23
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hi \ ubotu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:23
tannerld!hi | ubotu09:23
ubotuubotu: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!09:23
alex-weejcacti: when it asks you to choose to write monitor sync ranges, choose NO - it keeps your config clean.09:23
Everflexfmachado: why isn't gParted in the System menu?09:23
alex-weejKaLimeRo-: when you start the CD it should take you to the Ubuntu desktop09:24
alex-weejKaLimeRo-: when you run the installer, it will ask you for somewhere on your disk to install it, one of the options will be "ERASE ENTIRE DISK"09:24
alex-weejKaLimeRo-: choose that one09:24
fmachadoEverflex, good question. :)09:24
alex-weejEverflex: it is...09:24
ski-worklapmike, there probably is a graphical one, but i don't know what it is. try google09:24
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Everflexalex-weej, it is?09:24
mnoir!info gparted09:24
ubotugparted: GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.5-1.1ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 314 kB, installed size 1588 kB09:25
alex-weejEverflex: System -> Administration -> GNOME Partition Editor09:25
KaLimeRo-10x (: u halped me a lot09:25
alex-weejEverflex: of course, you have to install it09:25
mnoirEverflex: did you install it?09:25
magic_ninjai was wondering...is there a tool similar to DAP for windows that accelerates downloads by allowing you to make 2 or 3 simultaneous connections to a server and such (or does firefox's download manager already do that)09:25
alex-weejKaLimeRo-: no problem, i hope you have fun :P)09:25
Everflexalex-weej, oh okay. isn't in installed by default?09:25
KaLimeRo-(:09:25
alex-weejEverflex: no it isn't09:25
fmachadoalex-weej, he asked "by default"09:25
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Everflexalex-weej, ok. thanks!09:25
alex-weejfmachado: my mistake :P09:25
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mnoirEvas the above brief sez - it is optional09:25
cactialex-weej: reboot?09:25
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alex-weejcacti: no09:25
cactilol09:26
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alex-weejcacti: do you know how to switch VTs?09:26
cactialex-weej: VT ?09:26
alex-weejcacti: just reboot :P09:26
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Some_Personis there any way at all to make ubuntu not show volume labels like in breezy?09:26
cactik09:26
alex-weejSome_Person: show them WHERE?09:26
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Some_Personon the desktop, on volumes09:26
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emunsince my printer cannot print in ubuntu , i tried to use turboprint but get a banner on erery print job , how can i remove this09:27
MrBallZanyone knows how good performance does the Intel GMA 950 Graphics card has under linux, compared to Ati and Nvidia using propietary drivers ?09:27
alex-weejSome_Person: do you want to hide the volumes completely? or just the names?09:27
Some_Personjust the names09:27
siv0xHymnToLife: How do i make these changes perminent.?09:27
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alex-weejSome_Person: are you sure? you want just the icon without a name!?09:27
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tannerldglxgears doesn't show anything after I installed the ati drivers; how can i fix that?09:28
Some_Personback in breezy, it showed the name of the folder the volume was mounted to, can i make it do that?09:28
alex-weejSome_Person: i don't think so09:28
HymnToLife[21:27]  <siv0x> HymnToLife: How do i make these changes perminent.? <= Ctrl+O to save, Enter to confirm and Ctrl+X to exit nano09:28
alex-weejSome_Person: it's generally considered that it's much more friendly that your volumes show up as "FAMILY GUY SEASON 1" than "sda"09:28
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cactialex-weej: worked09:29
alex-weejcacti: tadaa09:29
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Some_Personi'd rather have it the other way09:29
ValmarkoSomeone help me on finding a 3d - like-doom game ?09:29
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alex-weejcacti: i really have no idea why it should have broken but nm09:29
alex-weejSome_Person: bring it up on Launchpad as a support request, and see what happens09:29
HymnToLifeValmarko, Unreal has native Linux builds09:29
AfiefValmarko: AFAIK all the doom legacy stuff was released under GPL09:29
erUSULValmarko: doom3, just buy it09:29
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emunturboprint help , anybody09:30
Valmarkothanks :)09:30
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alex-weejValmarko: good games are rarely free :P09:30
siv0xHymnToLife: Thanks09:30
siv0xHymnToLife: Now just go on with my install like i was going to before i got the error?09:30
AfiefValmarko: there is also Tremolous and Nexis i think09:30
HymnToLifealex-weej, Frozen Bubble and SuperTux are good enough for me :p09:30
alex-weejHymnToLife: haha09:30
HighLifeWhats the easiest way to find the resolution of a movie?09:30
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HymnToLifesiv0x, in your sources.list, change all occurrences of 'dapper' to 'edgy', then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:31
AfiefHighLife: right click and go to the video tab? if not run it through mplayer in the terminal and get the info from it's output09:31
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alex-weejHighLife: he means right click the file and choose "Properties"09:31
alex-weejHighLife: then the Video tab09:32
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HighLifethank u09:32
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Some_Personthen can i make it so that volumes dont show on the desktop?09:32
Afiefalex-weej: right, sorry for the mis-information09:32
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Two-Sixhas anybody got madwifi to work?09:32
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rogue780is there a way to kill the xserver via ssh? and then restart it?09:33
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HymnToLiferogue780, sudo /etc/init.d ?dm restart09:33
erUSULrogue780: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart09:33
Two-Sixalso I have a D-Link G650+ which I think has an Atheros chipset.  ANybody got one of these to work with WPA?09:34
ubut1hello you ubuntu guru09:34
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HymnToLifetypo, it's /etc/init.d/?dm09:34
ubut1how Do I install x server on ubuntu server?09:34
HymnToLifeubut1, only X or a whole DE ?09:34
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Some_Personcan i make volumes not show on the desktop?09:34
alex-weejAfief: not far wrong :P09:35
rogue780erUSUL: HymnToLife: that just hangs the xserver09:35
alex-weejSome_Person: now THAT's easy09:35
ubut1OK GUY, I want to install x on Ubuntu server, how do you do it?09:35
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Some_Personok, how do i do it?09:35
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HymnToLifeubut1, only X or a whole DE ?09:35
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ubut1Just a simple x window manager HYmntolife09:35
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ubut1I don't want full bloated gnome or kde09:36
alex-weejSome_Person: gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible09:36
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ubut1maybe a icefree, or window maker09:36
HymnToLifeubut1, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg I'd guess09:36
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Some_Personthanks09:36
ubut1I 'll try that Thanks HymnToLife09:36
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DarkLinuxhey any good books about administration or cd09:37
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thatscan i install ubuntu with graphical interface and then set it up as a web server?09:37
mnoirthats: yes09:37
HymnToLifeDarkLinux, what kind of administration ?09:37
HymnToLifeSystem, network...09:38
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thatsmnoir..thanks09:38
DarkLinuxHymnToLife: i hope both09:38
DarkLinuxwhats the diff09:38
DarkLinuxdarklinux: yeah09:38
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skukzado debain .debs work with ubuntu?09:38
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graftone is fixing machines, the other is setting up networks...09:38
HymnToLifefor network Linux Network Administrator's Guide (O'Reilly) is a must-have09:38
DarkLinuxskuza they work fine09:38
graftskukza: yeah, usually, though it's not always a good idea09:38
HymnToLifefor sysadmin, Linux is a nutshell (O'REilly too) has always served me well09:39
siv0xHymnToLife: Okay its installing09:39
skukzaoh09:39
DarkLinuxskuza ubuntu is based on debian09:39
skukzathats why i assume they work09:39
HymnToLifein*09:39
graftskukza: if it's something critical avoid it.. if it's some obscure third-party thingy, go ahead09:39
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skukzaok well heres a first bash at cvs then...09:39
DarkLinuxHymnToLife> have links09:39
graftskukza: cvs ought to bein ubuntu repos...09:39
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HymnToLifeyou can get both of them from Amazon for quite cheap09:40
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mmmgajfgjfgdfgjkf09:40
skukzawhat a considence i just opened synaptic to look for it :P09:40
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vrvHello. Is it possible to use dual monitors in Ubuntu?09:40
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graftyes, vrv09:40
shreevehow can I control the CPU speed? it's throttling down to much, i wanna use max speed when plugged in with AC power09:40
graftthough i dunno how to do it...09:40
DarkLinuxebooks are cheeper ;)09:41
thatsi am going to try and set a web server with graphical interface installation any book or manual i can get or buy?...i amworking eith windows swrvers this will be my first attempt with linux09:41
vrvThank you, graft.09:41
HymnToLifeshreeve, frequency will increase automagically when you'll need it to09:41
zachary6969beryl supports dual monitors too09:41
DarkLinuxcan u give the links in amazon09:41
mnoir!lamp09:41
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)09:41
HymnToLife!lamp | thats09:41
ubotuthats: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)09:41
HymnToLifedamn, pwn3d :(09:41
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skukzawell if this works i can do away with windows09:41
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logivisionHey, I'm using Ubuntu and I've installed Crossweaver. I'm trying to install a program that needs to access a server during installation (a constant connection must be established while the program is running as well). During installation it goes to select the location of the server but it's automatically selecting "My Network" since it's a window's installation. How do I go about setting it up so it can see the network properly?09:42
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dwhsixanyone here familiar with midi (hardware, not software)?09:42
alex-weejdwhsix: hello09:42
dwhsixso what would I need to hook a keyboard that has midi-out to my Ubuntu box?09:43
alex-weejlogivision: firstly the product is called Crossover, (and it's by a company called Codeweavers)09:43
shreeveHymnToLife: how can I force it to speed up? Is there an application that lets me control the CPU speed?09:43
alex-weejlogivision: secondly, you need to ask their support channel, because not many people here use it09:43
siv0xHymnToLife: Is this going to pretty much reformatt me, or am i going to have all the programs i had before, just on 6.10?09:44
logivisionyea i just relized the typo and was about to correct myself09:44
shreeveHymnToLife: Or, is the default throttling "so good" that it's not even needed?09:44
alex-weejdwhsix: does the keyboard have a USB interface or just MIDI outputs?09:44
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logivisionalix-weej: I'm asking in their channel to right now, but unfortunitally they apparently aren't very active in there09:44
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dwhsixalex-weej: I believe only MIDI... hang on I'll go check :-)09:44
alex-weejdwhsix: if it has a USB interface, then it has a class-compliant MIDI interface built into it and it's very easy - you just plug and play09:45
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alex-weejdwhsix: otherwise, you need some MIDI hardware. most sound cards come with a MIDI port09:45
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HymnToLifeshreeve, kill powernowd if you want to disable it but I wouldn't do it09:45
alex-weejdwhsix: it either looks like a d-sub or a DIN09:45
ezenuanyone have problems activating windows on a vmware virtual machine? My internet connection works fine with it09:45
DarkLinuxthree years in linux and still feel like anoob09:45
DarkLinuxdam09:45
HymnToLifesiv0x, it will upgrade all your packages to Edgy, if possible09:45
shreeveHymnToLife: can I run powernowd as a application? is there a "controller" for the CPU speed?09:46
alex-weejDarkLinux: try using something like Gentoo for a year on a different computer09:46
alex-weejDarkLinux: or plain debian, or slackware09:46
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dwhsixalex-weej: yeah, it's only MIDI... it's a Yamaha PSR-29009:46
HymnToLifeor FreeBSD \o/09:46
alex-weejdwhsix: ok, read up :P09:46
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DarkLinuxi only got my old pc alone09:46
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DarkLinuxnothing more09:46
dwhsixalex-weej: am I better off just buying a piano kbd w/ usb09:46
alex-weejdwhsix: er09:46
DarkLinuxgentoo is fine but it needs internet access to install it09:47
alex-weejdwhsix: if you want to do decent music production, you'll need a good sound card which will have a MIDI interface anyway09:47
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alex-weejdwhsix: it's up to you09:47
dwhsixalex-weej: recommendations?09:47
power83A question: ow can I change the var $LANG?09:47
dwhsixalex-weej: where can I read up?09:47
alex-weejdwhsix: in the channel lol, i meant ^^09:47
DarkLinuxman i used slackware for the last year vmware cli only no gui09:47
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alex-weejdwhsix: "otherwise, you need some MIDI hardware. most sound cards come with a MIDI port"09:48
DarkLinuxi can sey it helped me alot to stand linux09:48
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dwhsixalex-weej: aha.  I wasn't keeping up (which can be a problem w/ 930+ people in the room)09:49
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alex-weejdwhsix: indeed :)09:49
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DarkLinuxi think slackware will be awise option09:49
Linsomeone can help me to configure 5.1 sound? in windows everyrthing is working (this mean, wiring and hardware is ok) But in linux I just have front channels. Card is nvidia nforce 2  Realtek ALC658D driver snd_intel8x0. Using Edgy.09:49
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power83how can I change the $LANG vars???09:49
LinLANG=new_value09:50
HymnToLifepower83, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales09:50
DarkLinuxcool09:50
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HymnToLifechaging it manually seems a bit harsh to me :p09:50
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alex-weejpower83: System -> Administration -> Language Support09:50
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simonvcHi guys, i was wondering if you can help me with somthing. I want to create a minimal ubuntu to run under QEMU. Just console stuff, no X or anything, and i want to keep it under 800M. Is there an easy way to do this or what should i do?09:51
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power83Thanks, now I try09:51
Flannelsimonvc: get the alternate CD, install the "server" option, it'll install a minimal (GUI-less) installation09:52
MaheanuuHas anyone in here ever set up a Raid5 array under Dapper???  Did you go software or hardware, and what were your results??09:52
simonvc@flannel, thanks. any idea how big it is?09:52
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power83HymnToLife, there aren't a mode to edit manually $LANG???09:52
power83wich file?09:52
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Linpower83: .bashrc09:52
Linput EXPORT LANG=NEW_VALUE09:53
Linsorry09:53
Linexport LANG=new_value09:53
MaheanuuI want to use it as a desktop, and a server, but am needing to find a way to get the raid5 werking09:53
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HighLifeHey how can I get mencoder to utilize both cores on my cpu?09:53
power83Lin, I havven't it on my homedir.where is .bashrc system???09:53
Scorpion_Scripthi09:53
Scorpion_Script:P09:53
Linls -l ~/.bashrc09:53
Linyou have it ;-)09:53
Flannelsimonvc: nope, I never checked.  The alternate iso is 700mb, so it can't be more than that (the CD includes the GUI and extra stuff on it).  If bandwidth is an issue, you can use the minimal iso, to just download the packages you'll ultimately need.09:53
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power83Lin, no I haven't09:53
AlexC_morning all09:54
simonvc@flannel, thanks, ill try it now.09:54
Linpower83: create it. ;-)09:54
Linpower83: are you as root? righT?09:54
Scorpion_Scripthttp://www.scnchat.com/chatroom.php?rhx=477261706576696e6545646765                     -    very nice chat room09:54
HighLifeanyone?09:54
Scorpion_Script:D09:54
power83Lin,  but of course I want to change the system LANG, not my user only09:54
Linpower83: dpkg-reconfigure is the fastest way09:54
Scorpion_Scriptlin09:54
power83okay09:54
Linpower83: someone here told you before.09:54
Scorpion_Scripthello09:54
LinScorpion_Script: hi.09:54
Scorpion_Script:S09:54
skukzaanyone here use cedega?09:55
Scorpion_Scriptno one speaks to me09:55
Scorpion_Script:(09:55
power83but anyone know in wich files is wirtten $LANG??????????????09:55
LinScorpion_Script: dont bother with this chat thing.09:55
AlexC_Scorpion_Script: stop with the spam09:55
Scorpion_Scriptsorry09:55
Scorpion_Scripti am first time here09:55
AlexC_skukza: I have used it, but not often - why?09:55
LinScorpion_Script: then be polite.09:55
Scorpion_Scriptwhat this chat room name09:55
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DarkLinuxall: http://www.flazx.com/ebook2747.php09:55
FlannelScorpion_Script: this channel is for support, #ubuntu-offtopic is for general chat09:55
DarkLinuxlink on09:55
DarkLinuxfast09:55
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Scorpion_Scriptokay i need one help09:55
skukzahow much of a performace hit is it over playing on windows?09:56
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gOldZahNhey...some here with knowledge of beryl? how to edit the theme with emerald??09:56
Linpower83: /etc/environment09:56
skukzaand how easy it to use?09:56
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AlexC_skukza: well I've only tried one game, and in Windows I get 200fps yet in Cedega I get around 9009:56
FlannelgOldZahN: try #beryl or #ubuntu-xgl or even #xgl09:56
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Scorpion_Scriptlin i came this chat room thru script09:56
power83"echo $LANG" is "en_US.UTF-8"..........I do't want UFT-8 but iso8859....09:56
Scorpion_Scriptbut how can i cmow thru explorer09:56
DarkLinuxxhl sucks09:56
skukzaand how easy is it to use?09:56
Scorpion_Scripthere09:56
DarkLinuxits sucks memery09:56
AlexC_Scorpion_Script: stop pressing enter damm it!09:56
Lingood.. then stay here.. be polite.. and learn something09:57
power83Lin, do you understand?09:57
jcrewdanyone have luck connecting to an odbc database?09:57
Linpower83: that file? sure09:57
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AlexC_skukza: remember though, anything about 27fps will see smooth as that's around the fps the eye see's at ... so there will be no noticeable difference between 90 and 20009:57
Scorpion_Scriptbut how can i cmow thru explorer09:57
Scorpion_Scriptbut how can i cmow thru explorer09:57
Scorpion_Scriptlin i came this chat room thru script09:57
DarkLinuxwhat seems to be the problem jcrwed09:57
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AlexC_Scorpion_Script: do you not understand how not to spam?09:57
Scorpion_Scriptcan i have the link tro come here09:57
Scorpion_Scriptcan i have the link tro come here09:57
power83Lin, I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!09:57
power83thanks09:57
Scorpion_Scriptlin09:57
Scorpion_Scriptcan u help me09:58
skukzaAlexC_, supposedly the eye can only see 13fps09:58
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Linpower83: Scorpion_Script with?09:58
WavesonicsI'm looking to install XGame, but it is not in any of the standard Ubuntu repositories, does anyone know of a deb package anywhere for it?09:58
AlexC_skukza: 13fps it is then =)09:58
ezenuAnyone using vmware ever have issues activating Windows XP with it?09:58
skukzaanyway im sure this monitor doesnt support more than 60hz anyway09:58
AlexC_skukza: though, 12 fps is a bit load09:58
AlexC_s/load/low09:58
skukzaya09:58
jcrewdDark Linux:  various, end result i want to use a windows app in wine.  i need to connect to an odbc db to do so.  i have tried using unixodbc but it is kind of cryptic (using the db2 driver)09:58
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logivisionHey, I'm using Ubuntu and I've installed CrossOver. I'm trying to install a program that needs to access a server during installation (a constant connection must be established while the program is running as well). During installation it goes to select the location of the server but it's automatically selecting "My Network" since it's a window's installation. How do I go about setting it up so it can see the network properly?09:59
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skukzaright well seeing as my games arnt going to run under wine im going to go ahread and "buy" cegeda09:59
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javbInstalled Xgl/Compiz .. didnt like it.. removed it and placed the backup files (xorg.conf and /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom) to their original place. but when starting GDM, it says "No servers were defined in the configuration file and XDMCP was disable. This can only be a configuration error. GDM has started a single server for you. You should log in and fix the configuration. Note that automatic and timed logins are disable." Any idea why this is appearing. I hi09:59
javbt ENTER on that message and starts normally. just with a weird login manager. (Ubuntu Edgy)09:59
AlexC_skukza: I "brought" it to hehe =)09:59
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MDCorehey all. I'm trying to install ubuntu on a laptop that doesn't have a cd-rom, or stiffy drive, and won't boot off usb. Is it possible to install of either an iso or copied files that are stored on a windows partition ?09:59
skukzamy my arnt we all good little boys and girls10:00
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skukzalesser men might have sought to steal it10:00
erUSUL!install | MDCore10:00
ubotuMDCore: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues10:00
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AlexC_skukza: though with Cedega you only have to pay 3 months, after that you can still use it - just no updates10:00
Bradaphraserhmm10:00
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Wavesonicsdoes anyone here know about XGame?10:00
skukzahmm10:00
Bradaphraserapparently, I have to be a superuser to finish installing Ubuntu10:00
DarkLinux1so10:00
MDCoreerUSUL: I've been surfing the wiki.. I did the boot thing with grub for dos (or windows or whatever) and I can boot linux, but then it tries to look for a cd-rom.10:01
graftWavesonics: xgame?10:01
Linpower83: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup10:01
skukzaeh cedega is 1.7mb large?10:01
BradaphraserI've got a corrupted version of 5.10 on my compy, which is the only one that I could get installed.10:01
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MDCoreIf someone has instructions for actually installing from a windows partition that would be grand (the wiki doesn't seem to)10:01
BradaphraserI've tried all the others, and my computer says, 'critical temperature reached", and kills itself10:01
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Linskukza: no.. far larger10:01
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skukzathats what i thought10:02
Bradaphraserwell, it doesn't ALWAYS say "critical temperature reached"... sometimes I just kills itself with no warning10:02
Linskukza: 10 megs per local update10:02
skukzahmm10:02
erUSULMDCore: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows10:02
skukzathis local update wtf is it?10:02
jcrewddark: did you catch that previous post, any ideas?10:02
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wkerzendi have trouble with reinstalling the grub bootmanager ( i think my virus infested windows did something to it). I have a special boot partiotion does anyone know a good know how10:02
Linskukza: this isn't cedega channel..10:02
Wavesonicsgraft: XGame: http://xgame.tlhiv.org/home.html10:02
skukzathere is one?10:03
Linskukza: but local update is the wine with libraries.10:03
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Linskukza: dunno.10:03
skukzaby jove there is10:03
skukza#cedega surprise surprise10:03
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MDCoreerUSUL: yeah I've been checking that.. but my net connection is so flaky.... but let me see if I can net-install via a share or something..10:04
Bradaphraserdare I ask what superuser privaleges are?10:04
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power83hi boyz too10:04
erUSULMDCore: http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html10:04
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r3mwhat LFS mean in 6.0610:04
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r3mLTS*10:05
power83I have only UTF-8 locale......how can I ae iso8859-1 or iso8859-15?10:05
power83have10:05
HymnToLifeLTS* means Long Term Support10:05
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HymnToLife!lts10:05
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.10:05
r3mthx10:05
r3m6.06 is a good choice? or is better to use 6.1010:05
Wavesonicsanyone know where I can get a deb package for XGame http://xgame.tlhiv.org/home.html10:05
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power83dpgk-reconfigure locales don't do what I want10:05
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HymnToLifesome people have problems with 6.1010:06
javbInstalled Xgl/Compiz .. didnt like it.. removed it and placed the backup files (xorg.conf and /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom) to their original place. but when starting GDM, it says "No servers were defined in the configuration file and XDMCP was disable. This can only be a configuration error. GDM has started a single server for you. You should log in and fix the configuration. Note that automatic and timed logins are disable." Any idea why this is appearing. I hi10:06
javbt ENTER on that message and starts normally. just with a weird login manager. (Ubuntu Edgy)10:06
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lynucsrem user 6.0610:06
logivisionHow do i create a password for SU10:06
lynucsuse10:06
jdkycdochi there, it would be great if someone coud help me getting some files out of a corrupted cd which resists itself to any mount attempt, any ideas?10:06
javbany ideas?10:06
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thegreatmacologivision: sudo passwd root10:06
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theCoreAnnouncement: There is a quiz in #ubuntu-trivia starting in a few minutes. The lucky winner will be getting a free Ubuntu Poster!10:06
power83I have UTF-8 local,, but I want iso8859-1....how I do this?10:07
HymnToLifepower83, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales10:07
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emunhi, need some help how can i print from ubuntu to a canon pixma mp150 connected to print server on a windows network, winxp can print to this printer10:08
shootersemun: is the printer shared?10:09
power83HymnToLife, I hae already done this, but it regenerates only UTF-8 locales.....10:09
logivisionI'm trying to install an RPM and i go into terminal and go: 1) cd Desktop/    2) su     3) enter password    4) rpm -i vnc-4_1_2-x86_linux.rpm10:09
logivisionand it's giving me the error10:09
logivisionbash: rpm: command not found10:09
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emunno it is not shared10:09
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logivisionwhat does that mean? am i doing something wrong?10:09
fmachadojavb, open /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom and /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and check if there is any #comented line in [servers]  section10:10
AlexC_logivision:  you need to use Alien to convert the RPM to a .deb file10:10
shootersemun: how does winxp connects to printer? locally? TCP-IP?10:10
AlexC_logivision: sudo apt-get install alien   then do   aliean vnc-4_1_2-x86_linux.rpm10:10
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logivisionthank you10:10
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AlexC_logivision: then sudo dpkg -i vnc-4_1_2-x86_linux.deb10:10
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HymnToLifepower83, be sure to select the locales you want generated when you're shown the list10:11
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power83I  havent' undestood10:11
emunshooters, the printer is not shared wiinxp is connected to router which is connected to a printserver , tcp/ip ic enabled on winxp10:12
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HymnToLifewhen you lauch that10:13
javbThere is nothing in the [servers]  section either of them.10:13
javbfmachado10:13
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HymnToLifeyou'll have a list of all available locales10:13
HymnToLifeselect the one(s) you want, press Enter, voila10:13
AlexC_logivision: also, you said you did "su" as step 2, really you should be using sudo10:13
emunshooters, ubuntu can see the winxp computer on the windows network10:13
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javbfmachado There is nothing in the [servers]  section either of them.10:14
power83no no, when I run dpgk-reconfigure locales, it start generating all locales avaible......but all avaible  are UTF-8!!!10:14
sedraHello i want to install Fedora 6 nd ubuntu 6.10 with WinXp in multiboot how shoud i configure the bootloader10:14
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Lars_GHi all.10:14
power83HymnToLife, I don't have to press never enter10:15
Lars_GIs this still the best way to get jdk 6.0.0 on the system? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1877195&postcount=1510:15
logivisionAlexC: Hey, I'm using Ubuntu and I've installed CrossOver. I'm trying to install a program that needs to access a server during installation (a constant connection must be established while the program is running as well). During installation it goes to select the location of the server but it's automatically selecting "My Network" since it's a window's installation. How do I go about setting it up so it can see the network prope10:15
logivisionrly?10:15
logivisionsorry about that it was a mistake pasted the wrong item10:15
HymnToLifepower83, what do you get when you launch it ?10:15
AlexC_logivision: hehe no probs :P10:15
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logivisionAlexC: logivision@linuxbox:~/Desktop$ sudo alien vnc-4_1_2-x86_linux.rpm10:15
logivisionWarning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package vnc: postinst10:15
logivisionWarning: Use the --scripts parameter to include the scripts.10:15
jcrewdanybody familiar with unixodbc?10:15
power83Generating locales...10:16
power83  en_AU.UTF-8... up-to-date10:16
power83  en_BW.UTF-8... up-to-date10:16
power83  en_CA.UTF-8... up-to-date10:16
power83  en_DK.UTF-8... up-to-date10:16
power83  en_GB.UTF-8... up-to-date10:16
power83  en_HK.UTF-8... up-to-date10:16
power83  en_IE.UTF-8... up-to-date10:16
AlexC_PASTE BIN10:16
power83  en_IN.UTF-8... up-to-date10:16
power83  en_NZ.UTF-8... up-to-date10:16
power83  en_PH.UTF-8... up-to-date10:16
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AlexC_power83: PASTE BIN10:16
power83  en_SG.UTF-8... up-to-date10:16
power83  en_US.UTF-8... up-to-date10:16
emunshooters , are you still there, set is printer....printserver....router....computers with winxp10:16
power83  en_ZA.UTF-8... up-to-date10:16
power83  en_ZW.UTF-8... up-to-date10:16
power83  it_CH.UTF-8... up-to-date10:16
power83  it_IT.UTF-8... up-to-date10:16
power83Generation complete.10:16
power83HymnToLife, I send you a private message with it10:16
power83AlexC_,  what please??10:16
AlexC_power83: !!! use a pastebin, stop spamming10:16
sedrahello10:16
HymnToLife!pastebin | power8310:16
ubotupower83: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:16
siv0x!pastebin10:16
shootersemun: looking on the internet for you... drivers seems to be problematic10:16
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:16
power83what is pastebin?10:16
logivisionAlexC_: did you catch that error i'm getting?10:16
AlexC_logivision: sudo aliean --scripts vnc-4_1_2-x86_linux.rpm10:17
siv0xHymnToLife: crap10:17
logivisionthank you.10:17
AlexC_logivision: yes, woops - alien10:17
sedracan anyone help me10:17
logivisionis there any good tutorial site on how to use linux.. ?10:17
AlexC_sedra: yes, I think your problem is your not askign the question10:17
sedra i want to install Fedora 6 nd ubuntu 6.10 with WinXp in multiboot how shoud i configure the bootloader10:17
HymnToLifesiv0x ?10:17
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siv0xHymnToLife: you beat me to the !bastebin command :D10:17
radar1976hello, need a bit of help10:17
power83HymnToLife, so have you read it?10:18
HymnToLifesedra, be sure to have a shared /boot partition between the two Linuxes, will save you some headaches10:18
radar1976I changed the video card from one ATI card to another... now GDM / X will not start10:18
radar1976I can't find the command to reconfigure X10:18
AlexC_logivision: I don't know of any, but this IRC channel and Ubuntuforums are very very very helpful10:18
HymnToLifepower83, I didn't get any PM's10:18
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power83doh!?!?!?!10:18
radar1976may I get some assistance with this issue?10:18
HymnToLifeit's weird though, on my Debian when I lauch it, I have a list of locales to install10:18
emunshooters , do i still need to install the linux print drivers for pixma mp150 on ubuntu to be able to print to a network10:18
power83ow I use pastebin???10:18
fmachadojavb, ok. did you google? http://www.google.com/search?q=%22No+servers+were+defined+in+the+configuration+file+and+XDMCP+was%2210:18
power83how?10:18
AlexC_power83: paste the code, paste the link to use10:19
sedraboot partition i thought grub install in MBR!10:19
logivisionAlexC_: Yea, I've found this REALLY helpful so far. I Just don't want to have to bother you guys for all my stupid little questions!10:19
Lars_Gpower83: Just go there. paste the code and send the link here.10:19
HymnToLifesedra, only a parto of it10:19
AlexC_logivision: hey, that's what were here for =)10:19
HymnToLifeanother part is in /boot/grub10:19
Lars_GAnyone? is there a better way to get a good jdk 1.6 deb than this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1877195&postcount=1510:19
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power83http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39364/10:19
AlexC_logivision: you'll soon get use to it and will be able to do most things by your self after a while10:19
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sedraHymnToLife: thanx10:19
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logivisionAlexC_: I hope so!10:20
logivisionAlexC_: logivision@linuxbox:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i vnc_4.1.2-2_i386.deb10:20
logivisiondpkg: regarding vnc_4.1.2-2_i386.deb containing vnc:10:20
logivision xvncviewer conflicts with vnc10:20
logivision  vnc (version 4.1.2-2) is to be installed.10:20
logivisiondpkg: error processing vnc_4.1.2-2_i386.deb (--install):10:20
AlexC_logivision: hehe, yeah you will =)10:20
logivision conflicting packages - not installing vnc10:20
logivisionErrors were encountered while processing:10:20
logivision vnc_4.1.2-2_i386.deb10:20
AlexC_logivision: pastebin10:20
shootersemun: only drivers I can find are proprietary drivers from turboprint ... is there a way you could print through a XP box (printer sharing)?10:20
logivisionAlexC_: Whats that?!10:20
radar1976anyone?10:20
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logivision!pastebin10:20
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:20
AlexC_logivision: I see you are trying to install VNC, is it not in the resporities ?10:21
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logivisionAlexC_: Resporitories?10:21
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AlexC_logivision: I don't know how to spell it really! Can anyone describe resporities to logivision ?10:22
logivisionAlexC_: I'm on day 1 here, I know _nothing_ about linux !10:22
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Yodudehey guys guess what?! i just downloaded ubuntu and i'm just minutes away from using it!10:22
emunturboprint, requires $30 , what do mean by print through a xp box , please explain10:22
power83anyone can help me to have iso8859-1 or 15 as locale?10:22
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power83http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39364/10:22
cedwards_hey guys10:22
Yodudei have one question though can anybody answer me?10:22
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lynucsYodude: just ask10:22
AlexC_Yodude: not if you don't ask the question.10:22
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cedwards_anyone up for helping a n00b out?10:22
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lynucscedwards_: just ask10:23
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AlexC_cedwards_: ask the question, were not physic10:23
hjmillshi all - what is your fave music program on linux?10:23
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hjmills!ask | cedwards10:23
ubotucedwards: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:23
logivisionAlexC_: what didy ou mean by resporitories? does that mean it comes with ubuntu and you still have to install it?10:23
Lars_GAlexC_: Some MUST be psychic but affraid to let people know10:23
Yodudek, so: if anything goes wrong with the LiveCD, will my reset button be able to reset my system and run windpows again?10:23
AlexC_logivision: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html10:23
radar1976:(10:23
lynucsok ,cya10:23
cedwards_ok, here goes10:23
lynucswrong chan :D10:23
Yodudeso is the reset button on my pc's case hardware based?10:23
radar1976how do I redetect the hardware in Edgy10:23
AlexC_Lars_G: lol yes, some probably are!10:23
dantrag_hi, i am running a fresh ubuntu install. and when i play an mp3 in rythem box it works fine, but if totem plays it or if i play a movie there is no audio, can someone help me please?10:23
cedwards_I just got a new extrenal hard drive. of course, its USB10:23
Lars_GAlexC_: Do you have any advice for me? I'll repost.10:24
radar1976Yodude:  are you serious?10:24
hjmillsYodude: it just restarts the pc10:24
Lars_GAnyone? is there a better way to get a good jdk 1.6 deb than this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1877195&postcount=1510:24
cedwards_its NTFS, it opens read only, I want to change it to be writable, as it will be the storage for my system which boots Windows xp, ubuntu, and Mac OS X tiger10:24
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Russ1I have a dual boot windows xp/kubuntu computer. It currently has Kubuntu 6.06 and I'd like to install ubuntu 6.10. My /home directory is on a seperate partition. If I install Ubuntu 6.10, it shouldn't format my /home partition, will it?10:24
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hjmillsYodude: cuts the power and starts the pc up again - if u leave the live cd in then it will reload the live cd (ignoring any changes you made last time)10:24
Yodudelol just amking sure evrything is planned %10:24
fmachadojavb, ok. did you google? http://www.google.com/search?q=%22No+servers+were+defined+in+the+configuration+file+and+XDMCP+was%2210:24
Lars_GYodude: It's most surely hardware based, but there's no way to know without analyzing the schematic. it's safe to asume it's hardware based...10:24
shootersemun: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_MP150 - Seems to be hard to use that printer under Linux... I can't find anything else to help you... Sorry10:24
hjmillsso what is the best music program on linux?10:24
AlexC_logivision: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html -> explains repositories10:24
Yodudek that's what i wanted to hear10:25
hjmillspref written in c and for gnome10:25
cedwards_XMMS imo10:25
lynucscedwards_: i wouldnt better write write from linux on ntfs partiition.. its risky10:25
fmachadojavb, anyway, pastebin your gdm.conf and gdm.conf-custom10:25
AlexC_Lars_G: I don't know sorry10:25
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emunshooters, can you explain what you mean i should share the printer in xp10:25
Lars_GAlexC_: It's ok10:25
Sleeping_Slothhello chaps10:25
Yodudei can easily load the BIOS to stop the cd from loading again and get it out then reset again10:25
Yodudelol10:25
logivisionAlexC_: Would a GZipped Tarfile be easier to install than a .rpm ?10:25
power83http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39364/10:25
cedwards_hmm, what would be a better filesystem to use?10:25
Yodudethnx guys10:25
AlexC_morning Sleeping_Sloth10:25
Yodudec u on linux in some minutes!10:25
lynucscedwards_: fat10:25
javbfmachado.. i fixed it.. resinstalled gdm.. and yes, a googled, a lot. . .10:25
Sleeping_Slothdoes anyone know of a wav to cda app in the repositories?10:25
hjmillsYodude: or just eject the cd first10:25
power83I want iso8859-1 locale, not UTF-8 as show in the paste10:25
cedwards_keep in mind, I need access to it from XP, Mac, and Linux10:25
shootersemun: sorry... that won't work... drivers are not available for that printer10:25
Yodudeit has an IRC app?10:25
javbthanks for your help anyway dude,10:25
lynucsfat32 actually as an exchange partition between lin/win10:25
Sleeping_Slothhi AlexC_10:25
AlexC_logivision: not really, for that you will most probably have to compile the source. what is it you are trying to install?10:25
power83can anyone help me?10:25
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logivisionVNC!10:26
fmachadojavb :)10:26
AlexC_power83: not if you don't ask a question10:26
javbhi guys... i`m trying to install my broadcom 4311 wireless card.. cant do it, i`m getting this message -->  [17180000.240000]  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.10:26
siv0xYodude: yes, Gaim10:26
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cedwards_problem with fat32 = doesnt support partitions of 250gb sizes :P10:26
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logivisionAlexC_: VNC10:26
hjmillslogivision: ubuntu already has vnc installed10:26
emuni see so drivers are absolutely required10:26
Yodudek thnx n c u soon goodbye!10:26
Yodude;)10:26
lynucscedwards_: just do 2 partitions then :D10:26
logivisionhjmills: Dis that one of the ... repositories ?10:26
power83AlexC_, wait a moment10:26
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siv0xI feel sorry for "Yodude"10:26
cedwards_ugh, I was afraid you'd say that10:26
lynucs:)10:27
Lars_Glogivision: look for tightvnc or real-vnc they are available in ubuntu as packages10:27
shootersemun: Maybe that thread can help, but they are prop. drivers - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24372310:27
siv0xlol10:27
Sleeping_SlothI'm after a reverse ripper I suppose - anyone know of anything that I could use?10:27
hjmillslogivision: no - its installed with ubuntu already - System>Preferences>Remote Desktop10:27
lynucscedwards_: life is hard10:27
cedwards_I thought the most recent kernel fixed the whole NTFS thing10:27
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hjmillslogivision: then you can turn it on10:27
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lynucscedwards_: it is ficed, but still risky :D10:27
cedwards_define risky10:27
cedwards_in other words, what am I risking?10:27
logivisionLars_G: I can only find a tarball and an RPM for Real VNC10:27
Lars_Gcedwards_: As in "can lose your data"10:27
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emunshooters, thanks anyway i thought maybe there was to circumvent the driver issue by using a network10:28
hjmillsLars_G: backup first10:28
cedwards_I mean, corrupting the entire filesystem, or just the files written by Linux?10:28
hjmillscedwards_: whole thing10:28
lynucscedwards_: in worst case loose some data i guess10:28
cedwards_ugh10:28
logivisionhjmills: I need a program that can go between linux and Windows. I'll be using VNC to connect to a Linux box from a window's box10:28
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lynucscedwards_: but not sure10:28
cedwards_ah ok10:28
cedwards_hmm10:28
Lars_Glogivision: odd. the ubuntu package managers don't look for rpm and tar files o.O... in other words, use adept or synaptic, and search for "vnc"10:28
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emuni mean a way to circumvent the drivers10:28
cedwards_I know windows has a downloadable extention that allows rwx access to EXT310:28
hjmillslogivision: thats fine - ubuntu has a vnc server installed - it just denies any connections by default10:28
cedwards_anyone know if Mac can read EXT3?10:28
power83http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39365/10:28
lynucscedwards_: i guess special drivers needed10:29
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Lars_Gcedwards_: there's a commercial (expensive) driver for NTFS for linux.10:29
AlexC_logivision: most applications you download from the respositiories, not by actually downloading random files from the internet10:29
Lars_Gcedwards_: No.10:29
cedwards_ah ok10:29
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power83Anyone can help me in this??? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39365/10:29
cedwards_hmm, sounds like Im pretty much screwed lol10:29
protocol1is there a 686 kernel for edgy? or is the 386 one good enough?10:29
Lars_Gcedwards_: Sorry but FAT32 is the best FS for using in the 3 big OS10:29
lerneaen_hydrais there any good graphical (!) md5 checksum creator/verificator?10:29
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lunchtimeim trying to decide between Ubuntu and Kubuntu , any major things to know ? or choice between10:30
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gOldZahNis wine the best program of his category?10:30
Lars_Gcedwards_: Mac won't write NTFS either, only read it10:30
lynucscedwards_: don't use FAT for the whole windows10:30
lynucscedwards_: just as an excahnge partition10:30
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Genrl_Zodguys is it weasy to bond 2 internet conenctions together on a debian box?10:30
Genrl_Zodor in Linux in general?10:30
Lars_Glunchtime: kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde instead of gnome. it's the same as installing ubuntu and adding kde10:30
MDCorelunchtime: ubuntu == gnome, kubuntu == kde. that's roughly it.10:30
lynucscedwards_: an extra partition for all your non-installations partition10:30
cedwards_yea, but the external drive is 250 gb10:30
cedwards_its my storage unit10:30
Genrl_Zodany1?10:31
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lynucsnon-installation files i mean10:31
lunchtimeso if i have a computer who can run KDE smoothly , go with Kubuntu ?10:31
Lars_GGenrl_Zod: not "easy" but possible. read the general guide in www.lartc.org and join #networking10:31
cedwards_I have 2 internal drives that will include all OS files, and installed software, etc etc10:31
gOldZahNis wine the best program of his category?10:31
protocol1is there a 686 kernel for edgy? or is the 386 one good enough?10:31
lynucscedwards_: so what? do 2 partitions then10:31
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Lars_GgOldZahN: no10:31
MDCoreprotocol1: I think there is a 686 kernel10:31
AlexC_logivision: if you read that guide I linked you to, it should help you understand about installing programs in Linux/Ubuntu10:31
Genrl_Zodcheers buddy10:31
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gOldZahNlars_g, but what?10:31
jcrewdno one familiar with setting up an odbc connection???10:31
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protocol1ok10:31
Lars_GgOldZahN: for office apps Crossover is better (commercial), for games Cedega is better (commercial), for general use, wine lattest is better10:31
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Lars_GAlexC_: How the hell do you keep up with the speed here?10:32
power83I'm desperate.....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39365/10:32
AlexC_Lars_G: magic powers :P10:32
Lars_GI should ignore /part /joins10:32
MDCorejcrewd: I've messed with odbc connections10:32
[ITA] Stormcrowanyone use DAOC with cedega?10:32
gOldZahNlars_g, okay thx....cedega i didnt know10:32
Lars_GAlexC_: Chimp powers?10:32
AlexC_Lars_G: ostridge,10:32
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Lars_GAlexC_: Odd few people know what an ostridge even is. are you over 25? what are you doing in irc? lol10:33
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radar1976I need some help here...10:33
AlexC_Lars_G: haha no, I'm not over 25 :P 16 infact lol10:33
AlexC_radar1976: then ask away10:33
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MDCoreLars_G: what is an ostridge ?10:33
Lars_G[ITA] Stormcrow: try in #cedega (or ##cedega)10:33
radar1976I changed the video card from one ATI card to another... now GDM / X will not start10:33
radar1976may I get some assistance with this issue?10:33
AlexC_MDCore: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y85/heartsavolcanoo/ostridge.jpg10:33
Lars_GMDCore: It's a flightless huge bird10:34
AlexC_MDCore: fastest animal on 2 feet10:34
MDCoreah.. you mean an ostrich10:34
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Lars_GAlexC_: Afaik, the Argentinian andu, a close relative, is faster.10:34
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MDCorenot an ostridge...10:34
AlexC_Lars_G: oh really, lets get them on a treadmill and test10:34
Lars_GMDCore: Stickler10:34
AlexC_MDCore: I think there are 2 spellings of it,10:34
jcrewdMDCore:  i've tried unixodbc with db2 and failed.  is there a better way?10:35
fmachadopower83, backup /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local and then "sudo gedit /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local". delete all lines except the ISO88591. run "dpkg-reconfigure locales" again10:35
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Lars_Gjcrewd: odbc tends to be a slower way to use databases, why are you using it?10:35
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fmachadopower83, then run you app10:35
power83fmachado, thanks for reply, I try now and next I advise you the result10:36
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MDCoreWell I come from a country of ostriches... ostridge is just how you spell it if you have a bad accent :)10:36
jcrewdLars_G:  that's the existing connection to a database that a windows app is using... i am trying to get it to run in unbuntu in wine... i am open to suggestions10:36
hjmillsso what is the best music program on linux?10:36
squidlyhjmills: depends on what you want to do with it10:37
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canihi im new to this channel, anyone can help me, i have problems installing ubuntu on my machine10:37
gu014would it be better to purchase a sata or ide dvd-rom drive?10:37
squidlyhjmills: if you want to listen to music IMHO xmms10:37
Renan_s2Hello. Anybody here knows how to install HP C3180 "all-in-one" printer?10:37
Lars_Gjcrewd: depends what you want to access it from.10:37
squidlygu014: i think SATA is better10:37
haaryhjmills: depends on how you define "music program"10:37
radar1976AlexC_: are you able to help me?10:37
jcrewdLars:  i guess I shouold say that is how the connection is set up in the windows environment the application is native to10:37
AlexC_MDCore: oh right lol, well I kinda say Ost-ridge anyway and not Ost-Rich - plus the fact I spell things how I say them, or just spell them how ever I want lol10:37
squidlycani: what problems are you haveing?10:37
AlexC_radar1976: if you had a question, yes10:37
Lars_GTrevinho: Are you here?10:38
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gu014squidly: have any suggestions on which sata model i should look into purchasing?10:38
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hjmillssquidly: im looking for something more akin to iTunes but with integration for a creative vision:m if possible - i like the way itunes lets you find stuff10:38
AlexC_radar1976: ah, your ATI problem.10:38
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radar1976yes10:38
squidlygu014: i would say what ever your motherboard supports10:38
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nbjaymeholiday greetings to all! any musicians around? I would want to know recommendations for a good music studio app in GNU/Linux (base on your experience).10:38
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squidlyhjmills: ahh well that is a very specific application. I refuse to use itunes10:38
Lars_Ghjmills: My favorite for that is Amarok (for kde)10:38
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radar1976it is not detecting any radeon cards10:38
radar1976but I have a radeon 9000 card in the machine10:39
hjmillsLars_G: i was hoping to avoid kde libs :(10:39
canihi, im having problems running ubuntu on a k8v se deluxe mb, anyone can help me?10:39
Lars_Ghjmills: there's also rythmbox on the gnome side. afaik10:39
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squidlycani: be more specific or 10-1 you wont get any help10:39
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Lars_GTrevinho: Please tell me you're here :'(10:39
squidlycani: what exacly are you having problems with?10:39
AlexC_radar1976: damm I've forgotten the command, give me 2 mins10:39
power83fmachado, I have only a line: en_US.UTF-8 UTF-810:39
hjmillsLars_G: thanks10:40
x-r00t-x[15:36]  * Hostname IPV6 self-lookup failed.10:40
caniok lol, i donwloaded the desktop cd for an amd6410:40
x-r00t-xany idea? :-S10:40
radar1976k10:40
squidlycani: also say my name in responces to me so I can pick them out of the chatter10:40
canii boot the computer with the cd, and i only get as far as the animation of the scroll and the ubuntu logo in gray10:40
jcrewdLars:  i am trying to access an mssql server if that helps the suggestions10:40
squidlycani: what video cards do you have?10:40
caniok, im sorry im new in all this irc stuff10:40
Lars_GTrevinho: I go for food, if you come back please please /msg me10:40
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radar1976I should mention it is AIW10:41
squidlycani: no problem ^^10:41
canii have another computer with an ati radeon 9800 128 mb10:41
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caniits also a amd6410:41
caniand i was able to run it there10:41
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AlexC_radar1976: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:41
canii switched the video card to my computer and still was unable to boot10:41
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canimine is an ati radeon 9800 256 mb10:42
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turdcan anyone help me with sound juicer10:42
squidlycani: does it give any errors?10:42
siv0xHymnToLife: What was those last two commands you gave me, sudo apt-get upgrade and sodu apt-get dest-install or something? - i'm trying to help a friend get started on updating to edgy10:42
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canisquidly: nop, it just hangs there, with a black screen10:42
blas_whats the name of the english code for console? now its LANG="hu_HU.UTF-8"10:42
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AlexC_turd: what's wrong with it?10:42
squidlycani: can when that happens can you ctrl-alt-f1 to a console?10:42
technelHi. Could someone tell me a command that will let me see all recognized drives on this computer (so I can mount one, I don't know the exact identifier, e.g. /dev/sd#)?10:42
AlexC_technel: mount10:43
fmachadopower83, do you wanna "en_US ISO-8859-1" ?10:43
AlexC_technel: I think :P10:43
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mnoirblas_: mine is en_US.UTF-810:43
squidlytechnel: dmesg |grep /dev/[sh] d*10:43
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canisquidly: let me try, im running a memtest in this moment, its about to finish, ill try that when its done10:43
squidlyAlexC_: that shows the mounted drives not all drives10:43
squidlycani: also what version of ubuntu did you get 6.10? or 6.06?10:43
cani6.1010:44
squidlycani: try the 6.06 its works better then 6.1010:44
jcrewdMDCore:   did you use unixodbc?10:44
blas_mnoir: thx10:44
AlexC_squidly: woops yeah of course :P10:44
power83it is correctly?10:44
squidlycani: i had the same issues with 6.10 on my k8n10:44
MDCorejcrewd: yep.10:44
technelsquidly, Thanks!10:44
squidlytechnel: np ^^10:44
squidlyAlexC_: lmao ^^ i've done that too10:44
MDCorejcrewd: but to connect to ms sql server. don't know how similar it will be.10:44
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MDCorejcrewd: I'll see if I can find the instructioins10:44
logivisionfor VNC Programs in the Add/Remove APplications there is Gnome-RDP, Krdc and Krfb. If i want to connect to this computer from a window's machine, what's the best one of those to use ?10:45
canisquidly: thanks i will try 6.0610:45
squidlycani: np. I had issues with 6.10 for a long time and got so fed up I was about to throw it out the window10:45
canisquidly: so you were not able to run ubuntu 6.10 on your machine?10:45
canilol10:45
squidlycani: i gave up after a while tring with 6.10 I was able to get 6.06 running no problem10:45
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squidlycani: but then I was also trying to do raid/lvm for my hdd setups10:45
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pawlosiemka10:46
AlexC_logivision: I've never used VNC before, but am I right in that you need a Server and a Client. The server is on the PC you want to control yes?10:46
fmachadopower83, add "en_US ISO-8859-1" (without ")10:46
canisquidly: i see, im doing it on a ide hd10:46
pawloenglih bo ja polih10:46
logivisionAlexC_: Yes that's right. And I want this Linux machine to be the Server.10:46
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power83fmachado, in local and next reconfigure?10:47
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curs0ranyone see the vista start menu? that's freakin retarded10:47
fmachadopower83 , yeap10:47
ceacrohello world10:47
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squidlycani: they are ide hard drives10:47
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ceacrotrivia questions are ready.10:47
elcaseyi'm having some cyrillic font install issues in edgy10:48
lynucslogivision: i heard that rdp is just great ,better then vnc, but never used it10:48
ceacroVirus Free10:48
squidlycani: I was doing software raid and LVM10:48
AlexC_logivision: Ok, you could install Vino - if you go to Applications->accessories->terminal and type in "sudo apt-get install vino" that should install it10:48
lynucslogivision: vino ias bad, if you have on the server a big reolution and as client a small resolution10:49
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squidlycani: I'm also using ubuntu for several servers at work10:49
squidlycani: works wonderfully!10:49
AlexC_lynucs: oh right, I've never used VNC and just going by the descriptions apt-cache gives me :P10:49
NickCzdoes anyone know how to troubleshoot gstreamer in here10:49
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ceacrowhat does " RTFM" mean????10:50
AlexC_lynucs: "VNC server for GNOME" sounds quite promosing lol10:50
MuSkAporcodio10:50
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squidlyceacro: read the fine manual10:50
elcaseyno russian-speakers in here by any chance, are there?10:50
AlexC_ceacro: Read the Fine/Fu***** manual :P10:50
elcaseylol ceacro10:50
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squidlyAlexC_: lmao ^^10:50
ceacrovery good10:50
mnoirceacro: in ubuntu, nothing10:50
sidny4lol10:50
canisquidly: sweet, im gonna give it a try10:50
squidlyAlexC_: I was tyring to be polite ^^10:50
siv0xhey can someone tell me what this is going to do - i'm updating from 6.06 to 6.10, will this give me a fresh copy of 6.10 or will it just update and be just like a fresh copy but with all the files i already had?10:50
ceacrofor those people who ask questions permanently10:50
AlexC_squidly: hehe yeah I know :P10:50
squidlycani: yea its actually our proxy!10:50
squidlyAlexC_: lol10:50
elcaseyan upgrade is just an upgrade10:50
lynucsAlexC_: what do you mean10:50
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ceacroif someone asks you to help him or her then10:51
ceacrosu send a message " R.T.F.M"10:51
radar1976thank you AlexC_  I got X working again10:51
radar1976:D10:51
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squidlycani: its an older desktop that is running a squid proxy, and is handeling over 2tb of netsurfing a day10:51
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ceacroread the fucking manual10:51
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AlexC_lynucs: well he asked for a VNC Client, I didn't know of any so I did "sudo apt-cache search vnc" to find vnc programs, and saw Vino with a description of "vnc server for Gnome" so I thought that sounded good10:51
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squidlyceacro: yea it means to man su10:51
AlexC_radar1976: your welcome =)10:51
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plypkiesiv0x: are you using apt on synaptic to upgrade?10:51
rizoHi10:51
AlexC_hello rizo10:52
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ceacro2nd questions10:52
radar1976now time to get video for linux working... anyone have suggestions for a good video editing program and codecs to use10:52
rizoI some help with grub10:52
AlexC_rizo: ask away,10:52
siv0xplynkie: i'm using sudo apt-get dest-install (i think this is the command)10:52
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ceacrowhat is frostwire?10:52
squidlyrizo: AlexC_ is the grub god of the channel10:52
rizoi accidently installed it in hd0,010:52
X_drake_Xa p2p10:52
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ceacrovery good x_Drake10:52
canisquidly: nice, i can't wait to give it a try, i've been stuck with server 2003 and isa server10:52
AlexC_ceacro: it's basically Limewire10:52
ceacroa peer to peer protocol client10:53
squidlycani: i feel your pain I was there a week ago10:53
AlexC_ceacro: a P2p client10:53
X_drake_Xa free limewire pro10:53
plypkiesiv0x: ahh, probably "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".  if you're doing that, then it'll upgrade your software but it will keep all your current data files as they are10:53
ceacroI prefer using Limewire pro10:53
AlexC_ceacro: use it then,10:53
plypkiesiv0x: it's not a clean-wipe reinstall.  it's just a software version upgrade10:53
MathewUSB hubs will work in ubuntu right?10:53
canisquidly: no there are no big changes from 6.06 to 6.10?10:53
squidlycani: after me and my boss tried an update to it and lost all connections took me a GRAND total of 2 hours to get squid up and running with basic filtering10:53
X_drake_Xfrost wire give problems to me10:53
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ceacroyah10:53
squidlycani: no.. 6.06 is a Long Term Support release10:53
AlexC_Mathew: yes10:53
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squidlycani: the apps in there are better tested then in 6.1010:54
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sidny4I like 6.06 better10:54
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ceacrolimewire is faster and more accuretely10:54
canisindy4: thank you for your opinion:D10:54
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squidlyceacro: limewire is a virus floding area10:54
siv0xplynkie: okay, I have a question, like in 6.06 when you installed something, it didnt apear on the Kmenu (on KDE) but yet when you rebooted it did, and i've heard on Edgy after you install something, it just apears on there without having to reboot. Will i stil get all those same features as if i reinstalled a fresh copy of 6.10?10:54
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ceacro3er questions10:54
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radar1976dammit  now I can't use Gmail with firefox10:54
squidlysidny4: you and me both actually10:54
Stormx2radar1976: You on 64 bit?10:54
ceacroremember: Linux is 100 % virus free10:54
radar1976as soon as the inbox loads, firefox quits10:54
radar1976Stormx2 no10:55
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AlexC_squidly: were on Linux.... I don't think Viruses are the top of our security list :P10:55
squidlyceacro: BULLSHIT!10:55
Stormx2ceacro: Incorrect.10:55
squidlyAlexC_: lol10:55
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sidny4squidly: yeah, it just runs much nicer I think10:55
Stormx2squidly: Language, please.10:55
squidlyStormx2: sorry10:55
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squidlysidny4: its a bit more stable10:55
Stormx2squidly: No prob ^_^10:55
AlexC_ceacro: it's not 100%, 99.9% maybe :P10:55
Karhanhello10:55
plypkiesiv0x: yes, it should work the same as someone who installed fresh10:55
ceacroI have used linux for 6 years and I do not know any virus for linux10:55
mnoirceacro: wrong and dangerous to believe10:55
sidny4there are like 12 viruses for linux10:55
siv0xPlynkie: thank you10:55
squidlyAlexC_: i konw of several viruses for linux10:55
Stormx2ceacro: Usually desktop users will not be vunerable. Most viruses for linux tend to infect big servers and get customer data10:56
squidlyceacro: I have heard of several and I've seen a box infteced with a linux virus10:56
AlexC_ceacro: there are viruses for Linux, but they are only really proof of concepts, not many, if any are actually swiming around the internet to infect you10:56
Karhani'm problem with GAIM on Ubuntu for my webcam10:56
ceacroso next question:10:56
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Stormx2Karhan: GAIM has no webcam support, currently.10:56
AlexC_Karhan: GAIM doesn't have webcam support10:56
ceacromention 3 names of viruses for linux10:56
Stormx2Karhan: Your best bet is amsn10:56
Stormx2ceacro: No, google it yourself.10:56
squidlyceacro: www.google.com10:57
AlexC_ceacro: Humans, there's 1 lol10:57
Karhanit's impossible with gaim ?10:57
AlexC_Karhan: no10:57
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Karhanerf10:57
mnoirceacro: who cares - just run the proper protective filters10:57
FerretWe have remote exploits instead; targeted attacks rather than the win32 random virus infection attacks10:57
Karhanok10:57
squidlyceacro: there are several10:57
Karhanthanks10:57
AlexC_Karhan: use aMSN10:57
ceacrothis is the question that I do not know its answer--...10:57
squidlyalso a problem with viruses spreading for linux is there are so many different types of setup and configurations10:57
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Karhanok10:57
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AlexC_squidly: but most are proof of concepts and not swimming around the internet, correct?10:57
mnoirceacro: clearlyt10:57
Karhani wont search10:57
malikeyeFerret: was just gonna say that... it's more application exploits than user propagated virii10:57
radar1976!pastebin10:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:57
ceacromention 3 viruses for linux10:57
siv0xceacro: Theres tons of virus's you can get, Ever heard of a "botnet" yeah theres linux bots too. - thats 1 virus.10:57
Karhanthanks10:58
AlexC_ceacro: No, search god damm it :P10:58
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squidlyAlexC_: true, however there have been a couple that have I have actually seen and had to clean out10:58
Stormx2Karhan: A couple of years back, gaim was forked into gaim-vv (Video/Voice). The idea was to implement the stuff from gaim-vv into gaim eventually, but theres been no progress yet.10:58
jcrewdMDCore:  don't bother, this is an issue i am revisiting.  i already have the instructions. i currently do not have the odbc configured.  i was just wondering if i should follow the same path...  did you use the db2 driver10:58
squidlyAlexC_: like a couple of years ago there was a apache/ssl worm going around10:58
Stormx2ceacro: Bring this to #ubuntu-offtopic or just use google.10:58
ceacroIn theory can be a virus on linux.10:58
AlexC_squidly: I think I read about that a while ago, was that when the majority of the internet went down lol?10:58
squidlyceacro: you want to be a M$ flame bot then go head to #flamebait10:58
radar1976http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3936810:58
ceacrobut in practice there is nothing but tries10:59
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squidlyAlexC_: lmao10:59
mnoir!offtopic | ceacro10:59
ubotuceacro: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:59
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radar1976before changing video cards, I had no problem10:59
squidlymnoir: ty10:59
radar1976now I can't use gmail10:59
AlexC_squidly: well not went down, but .... ahh you know what I mean :P10:59
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TIBS01ello10:59
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ceacronext question10:59
squidlyAlexC_: lmao yea I konw what you mean10:59
AlexC_radar1976: why is that?10:59
TIBS01someone help me10:59
radar1976i have no clue why10:59
Stormx2radar1976: What exactly is the issue? What happens when you try to access gmail?10:59
rafasmartfor webcam "2770:9150 NHJ" is sufficient a package SPCA5xx driver?? what else?10:59
TIBS01how do i do a net install on unbuntu10:59
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squidlyTIBS01: what is your prolem10:59
malikeyeAlexC_: Al Gore forget to fund a UPS for the interweb ? :)11:00
ceacrowhat is the meaning of CUPS?11:00
squidlyAlexC_: oh yea thas right11:00
malikeyeCommon Unix Printing Service11:00
ceacrovey good11:00
squidlyceacro: www.google.com/q?search=cups11:00
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Stormx2TIBS01: net install? You mean install packages from the internet, or install ubuntu on a machine over the network?11:00
radar1976Stormx2:  I run firefox, load the login to gmail.com  that works then as soon as it loads the inbox, it crashes11:00
AlexC_malikeye he funded UPS for one of the internets, but forgot the other internets11:00
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TIBS01squidly i know how todo it i just dont know what file to download so the files  from ftp server11:00
squidlyceacro: lynx and googles your 2 best buds.. learn to use them11:00
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genius314How do I change the folder used for the pictures screensaver?11:00
Stormx2radar1976: Odd. Post a topic on ubuntuforums.org11:00
martixhey there11:00
wastrel<3 al gore11:00
squidlyTIBS01: ahh ok you need to get an iso to install it11:00
TIBS01yes11:01
TIBS01wot one11:01
Music_ShuffleHey over thataway.11:01
squidlyTIBS01: and burn that iso to a cdrom and boot off the cdrom11:01
TIBS01then it downloads packages n stuff from the ftp server11:01
martixanybody knows how to convert a vcd to mpg?11:01
TIBS01whats the link to it ?11:01
martixI want to rip a vcd to a mpg or avi11:01
martixdirectly from the cd11:01
martixor vcd11:01
squidlyTIBS01: i dont recall off the top of my head11:01
TIBS01:(11:01
malikeyemartix: check out vcdgear11:01
martixmalikeye I downloaded for my ubuntu11:02
martixbut seems like is not workingh11:02
AlexC_wow, a hold hour sitting in IRC helping people :P11:02
AlexC_s/hold/whole11:02
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Stormx2AlexC_: I've been nights doing it...11:02
lerneaen_hydrafun fun fun11:02
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malikeyemartix: dunno... that's what I've used before... just used it a couple times to do vcd2mpg or whatever it is11:02
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AlexC_Stormx2: do your eyes not go funny lol11:02
xpc!hu11:03
ubotuHa magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu11:03
lerneaen_hydranow then, anyone know of an md5 checksum generator/verifier program?11:03
squidlyAlexC_: and getting complained at for not heling thoes who would not help themselves11:03
Stormx2AlexC_: Insomnia... ya know...11:03
lerneaen_hydraor if not, a couple shell commands11:03
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malikeyelerneaen_hydra: ummm... md5 ? :p11:03
lerneaen_hydrayes, but this is a lot of files11:03
lerneaen_hydraand subdirs11:03
AlexC_Stormx2: oh right, sometimes I wish I had insomia so I could get work done lol.... but I love my sleep :P11:03
Stormx2lerneaen_hydra: md5sum I think? ^__^11:03
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JosefKlerneaen_hydra, a combination of md5sum and 'find'11:03
lerneaen_hydraand my bash-fu is weak11:03
TIBS01i can't find the file11:03
tonyyarussolerneaen_hydra: Yeah, make a script.11:03
mnoirlerneaen_hydra: md5sum11:03
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JosefKlerneaen_hydra, ie. find . -name "*.iso" -exec md5sum "{}" \;11:04
martixmalikeye yeap, I used on windows11:04
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genius314How do I change the folder for the Pictures Screensaver? Or at least someone tell me where the folder is.11:04
tonyyarussolerneaen_hydra: #bash might help with that, or #ubuntu-offtopic, depending on the day.11:04
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dibblego!nvidia11:04
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:04
lerneaen_hydra#bash sounds like a good idea11:04
martixactually im trying to recover a vcd and try to convert it to mp411:04
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squidlyJosefK: its much funner to do find / -name iso -exec md5sum {} \;11:04
tonyyarussogenius314: The folder would be ~/Pictures - I don't think it's easy to change anymore, unfortunately.11:04
r3msomebody knows nongnu.org11:04
dibblego!resolution11:04
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:04
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JosefKsquidly, but that'll catch nothing, and bork on filenames with spaces :/11:04
genius314tonyyarusso: Thanks.11:05
Ferretsquidly: Except his would work, and yours wouldn't?11:05
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squidlyJosefK: Ferret yea yea yea.. I just didnt bother with the full regex right11:05
malikeyelerneaen_hydra: ls | xargs -n1 md5sum11:05
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malikeyethat will rip through the dir and show all md5sum's11:05
rizoI installed grub on as setup (hd0,0) however this is by windows xp (ntfs) partition. So now i can't boot into windows or mount windows in ubuntu as there is an error with the ntfs partition. Any ideas how I can fix this?11:05
lerneaen_hydramalikeye that sounds almost too easy11:05
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squidlyls -R / | xargs -n1 md5sum11:05
AsperoI finally made the switch to ubuntu on my home computer, and i have CS:S and WoW working great! but i get no sound in ventrilo11:06
squidlylerneaen_hydra: heh11:06
malikeyeit on;y displays 'em11:06
squidlyor just md5sum file.iso11:06
lerneaen_hydrayeah well just add > /dir/file11:06
squidlyAspero: coolness ^^11:06
malikeyeyeah, squidly is more complete....11:06
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FerretOr instead of all those ideas that don't work, he could use JosefK's one that actually works!11:06
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AlexC_right, I'm off - bye!11:06
lerneaen_hydrasquidly: I take it it should be >ls -R /dir/dir2/ | xargs -n1 md5sum11:07
malikeyeyes11:07
genius314Is there any way to change settings for screensavers?11:07
squidlylerneaen_hydra: yea that can work11:07
malikeyeoh wait11:07
plypkierizo: hmm...sounds like you overwrote the windows bootloader11:07
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squidlylerneaen_hydra: or you can md5sum /dir/dir2/(filename)11:07
rizohow do i recover it11:07
mnoirgenius314: system >preferences > screensaver might be a start.....11:07
JosefKFerret, I just noticed a mistake, "-type f" :(11:07
squidlylerneaen_hydra: if you are working on a single file11:08
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JosefKI always forget that when using find :(11:08
lerneaen_hydrasquidly: no, this is a ton of files in subdirs11:08
squidlylol JosefK11:08
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squidlylerneaen_hydra: or you can do this11:08
rizoi tried fixmbr but it isn't working11:08
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voraistosHey guys... I have a very strange problem down here, mldonkey related. As it wont start on boot, i would like to apply the patch to the init.d . To patch, i need to apt-get install patch. But now, apt-get tells me it couldnt connect to localhost:4001 , which is the mldonkey GUI port !11:08
genius314mnoir: I know how to change it, but I want to change some settings.11:08
malikeye... ls -R /dir | xargs -n1 md5sum > output.txt11:08
squidlyfor i in 'ls -R'; do ; md5sum $i ; done11:08
JosefKyou've angered the gods of #bash with that last question lerneaen_hydra :/ "man find"11:08
squidlylerneaen_hydra: for i in 'ls -R'; do ; md5sum $i ; done11:08
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lerneaen_hydraJosefK: I see I have...11:08
squidlyJosefK: boohoo11:09
FerretJosefK: It doesn't matter that much, it's not as if many people have directories etc. named *.iso11:09
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lerneaen_hydrasquidly: is it really needed to use a for loop?11:09
squidlyJosefK: find is bloat wear and ineffieient imho11:09
JosefKFerret, true, turns out they want the md5sum of all the files though11:09
squidlylerneaen_hydra: for going down thew a bunch of files yea11:09
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squidlylerneaen_hydra: and it works clean11:09
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lerneaen_hydraok11:09
lerneaen_hydraoh, you don't need find11:09
lerneaen_hydranice11:10
JosefKsquidly, more typing == more errors == breakage, find = less typing11:10
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Ferretsquidly: I don't think you've actually given a non-broken answer yet11:10
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squidlyFerret: what ever.11:10
JosefKsquidly, and again, your 'for' loop will fail on files with spaces in their names11:10
skukzahow do i exit X when installing nvidia drivers?11:10
Ferretsquidly: Actually, I think that last one was the most broken yet, but I haven't been paying a huge amount of attention11:10
lerneaen_hydra#bash seemed to like "find -type f -exec md5sum {} \; > file"11:10
squidlyFerret: i dont give answers. I give a direction11:10
squidlylerneaen_hydra: im not supprised there11:10
JosefKlerneaen_hydra, indeed, but stick some quotes around {} (ie. "{}") and you're sorted11:10
lerneaen_hydraoh, to take care of spaces and such?11:11
genius314Is it possible at all to not have the Pictures screensaver stretch out my pictures?11:11
JosefKindeed11:11
lerneaen_hydrasounds like a plan11:11
pike_skukza: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  then start or restart later11:11
JosefKthere's a link about "use more quotes" in the FAQ in #bash11:11
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squidlyJosefK: get a real shell that works.. get zsh11:11
Ferretsquidly: Any direction involving parsing the output of ls is almost guaranteed to fail, for a variety of reasons, not least of which that it breaks on spaces, ampersands, quote characters, etc. etc.11:11
lerneaen_hydrawhat about verification?11:11
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pike_skukza: alt-ctrl-f2 then login and type that11:11
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squidlyFerret: only if you alias ls --color to ls11:11
tonyyarussogenius314: I'm not sure.  There used to be a lot more options for screensavers, but now it's pretty restrictive.  Had to do with the switch from xscreensaver to gnome-screensaver, so I think you can still switch back if you like.11:12
Ferreto.O11:12
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squidlyFerret: or just use /bin/ls there you go .. no colors and what not11:12
squidlyFerret: I dont alias ls to ls --color I alias lsc to color11:12
genius314tonyyarusso: How would I do that?11:12
JosefKlerneaen_hydra, you could 'diff' the output I guess, or knock together a small script that takes 'filename md5sum' input and greps the other script, before comparing the md5s11:12
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[SPFC] mmhey guys, do u know if ndiswrapper works on ubuntu amd64 version11:12
diskusI alias ls to ls --color -F always :P11:12
lerneaen_hydraJosefK: oh, right11:12
lerneaen_hydraJosefK: duh...11:13
nelsonuwpanyone have an external hard drive?11:13
blas_how can i save export LANG="en_US" setting, if i logout it lost the changes :/11:13
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squidlydiskus: i want my command to do what I expect it's written to do11:13
squidlyblas_: .bashrc11:13
tonyyarussogenius314: Install the xscreensaver package, and then something update alternatives probably...um *isn't sure*11:13
[SPFC] mmhey guys, do u know if ndiswrapper works on ubuntu amd64 version11:13
tonyyarussonelsonuwp: Yep.11:13
diskussquidly: well it's writen to do --color -F and I like it to have that by default11:13
mnoirlerneaen_hydra: if you man md5sum, you might learn how to use it to verify against a published file of sums for a given distributed set of files11:13
genius314tonyyarusso: ok.11:13
squidlydiskus: personal choices11:13
diskussquidly: yep11:14
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squidlydiskus: I dislike it... never said you didnt have to like it11:14
Ferretsquidly: Feel free to make a temporary directory, create a filename called 'hello there', then do ls | xargs rm.  I'd do it for you and take a screenshot only I don't have the software installed to take said screenshot11:14
nelsonuwptonyyarusso: is it only windows and mac compliant? because I just bought one today and want to dump all my files on it and then get them off when i switch to linux11:14
diskussquidly: I think everything in this world is personal choices11:14
squidlydiskus: yep11:14
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lerneaen_hydrathanks for all the information11:14
tonyyarussonelsonuwp: Mine works great on any system.  Just mounts like any USB drive.11:14
JosefKnp's, good luck lerneaen_hydra11:14
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squidlyFerret: i dont use xargs like that11:14
squidlyFerret: actually I dispise xargs as an applicaion11:14
tonyyarussonelsonuwp: You could test in a Live CD environment if you're not sure.11:15
tolishi there!!!11:15
nelsonuwptonyyarusso: how do I do that11:15
tonyyarussonelsonuwp: Mine is a Western Digital passport, btw.11:15
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tonyyarussonelsonuwp: Boot from the live cd, then, plug in the drive and see what happens.11:15
[SPFC] mmhey guys, do u know if ndiswrapper works on ubuntu amd64 version11:15
ssmasoodhi all11:15
pike_nelsonuwp: assuming you didnt format it in windows as ntfs you should be ok11:15
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blas_squidly: no such line in .bashrc, i mean something for language :/11:15
tolisfolks i have a proble with a combo pcmcia 3com card <3ccfem556>. Any ideas???11:15
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squidlypike_: even then he/she should be able to read it11:15
squidlyblas_: make one11:15
JosefKcurl http://www.faqs.org/docs/artu/ | squidly11:16
ski-worklapis there a way to get flash9 working under konqueror?11:16
joelhow can I update easily from breezy to edgy? (I'd like to do it using apt)11:16
nelsonuwpmy external hard drive?11:16
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mnoir!edgy | joel11:16
ubotujoel: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes11:16
squidlyJosefK: cat /dev/null >> www.faqs.org/doc/artu11:16
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blas_squidly: whats the syntax? just export LANG="en_US" ?11:16
squidlyyes11:16
ssmasoodmy wifi i.e. Intel Proset Wirelss 3945 a/b/g..has no built in support on ubuntu....so i downloaded the driver from intel's website....the driver says that i have to install IEEE subsystem first..but IEEE subsystem has no MAKE file in it...how should i install it???11:16
blas_squidly: thanks11:16
diskusjoel: as far as I know it's dangerous to do that, and you can break everything11:16
JosefKseriously though, it's worth a read11:16
joelubotu: thanks a lot, somehow couldn't find it11:16
squidlyJosefK: cat /dev/null >> www.faqs.org/doc/artu11:17
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tolisfolks i have a proble with a combo pcmcia 3com card <3ccfem556>. Any ideas???11:17
squidlyJosefK: ive read it11:17
squidlyJosefK: total waste of time IMHO11:17
eternal_pquick question for everyone, is it possible to have more than one network configured in the wpa_suppliement.conf file?11:17
pike_nelsonuwp: unplug it an plug it back in and maybe do "ls -t /dev | head" and see if a an "sda1" or "sdb1" shows up maybe just not automounting11:18
HymnToLife[23:16]  <ssmasood> my wifi i.e. Intel Proset Wirelss 3945 a/b/g..has no built in support on ubuntu.... <= yes, it has11:18
eternal_pwpa_supplicant*11:18
HymnToLifein Dapper/Edgy at least11:18
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plypkiessmasood: i have 3945 and it works in edgy11:18
ssmasoodHymnToLife.....when i run the IWCONFIG ....it shows me nothing....11:18
pullerhow can i record audio my sound card is playing?11:18
plypkiessmasood: i just installed yesterday11:18
plypkieworked out of the box11:18
ssmasoodplz tell me how can i make it work...11:18
HymnToLifeworked out of the box for me too11:19
plypkiessmasood: what version of ubuntu?11:19
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tahorgimbecile: nice nick11:19
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tolisguys pleazzzzzzzzzz !!!!!11:20
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imbecilety11:20
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squidlylmao imbecile11:20
imbecileit is relevant11:20
imbecilehehe11:20
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squidlyimbecile: lmao funy as hell though ^^11:20
ssmasood6.06 LTS11:20
h00tis there a way to somehow switch a program/application from one workspace into another11:20
plypkietolis: what kernel version?11:20
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joelubotu: it says i can only upgrade from dapper. Do I have to upgrade to dapper first? I'd really like to avoid that...11:20
eternal_ph00t if you use Beryl you can just drag it over11:20
HymnToLifessmasood, definitely should work11:20
imbecileived used this nick on irc for 9 years11:20
squidlyh00t: you using gnome?11:21
Ferreth00t: Depends on your desktop manager, but typically you can right-click the window header11:21
JosefKh00t, sure, you can drag the little icon in the workspace switcher (bottom-left by default), or use the right-click menu on the title bar11:21
HymnToLifessmasood, try to install the restricted modules for your kernel11:21
squidlyh00t: right click on the menu bar and then send to11:21
JosefK*bottom-right by default11:21
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tolisplypkie: 2.6.17.10-383 (edgy)11:21
pike_h00t: in xfce you just right click and select 'send to' gnome i dunno11:21
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hjmillswith most music there are several things we want to search by - artist, title, genre, album, year etc - why cant we extend this into other filetypes and do away with folders to create a much more flexible workspace that we can organise easily to suit out needs?11:21
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ssmasoodHymTOLife....when i run the wireless assistant ..... in the GUI...it quits saying that no valid adapters11:21
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sidny4hjmills: because that hasn't been made yet, become a programmer and make one11:22
plypkiessmasood: do you have "ipw3945" running?11:22
tonyyarussohjmills: Well, desktop search is on that road somewhat.11:22
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JosefKhjmills, it has uses in some places, but not in others11:22
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ssmasoodnopes?11:22
imbecileanybody know a way to get wlassistant to work with wpa?11:22
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hjmillsJosefK: i can see it wouldnt be useful with somethings but most files it would be useful to be able to organise by search by recently used, filetype, etc11:22
tolisplypkie: sorry !!! 2.6.17.10-386 (edgy)11:22
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imbecileor a good wpa manager11:23
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XChrisCXCan anyone suggest a good download manager? I'm only on dial up and I keep getting server timeout. A resume fuction would be very useful.11:23
plypkiessmasood: which kernel?11:23
eternal_pimbecile, try connection-manager11:23
JosefKhjmills, 'beagle' kind of does what you want11:23
eternal_pyou can find it on the fourms11:23
hjmillstonyyarusso: its still to abstract from the filesystem for my liking - i think i will file my idea away and try and remember it when i know more about programming11:23
imbecileeternal_p thanks11:23
FerretXChrisCX: wget has resume functionality if the server supports it.  -r I think?11:23
eternal_pno problem11:23
ssmasoodplypkie.....2.6.1511:23
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JosefKhjmills, do an aptitude install of 'beagle' and see if it does roughly what you're thinking of11:24
hjmillssidny4: trying when i have time - been playing with ruby, python, perl, c++ and scheme (in roughly that order)11:24
imbeciletonyyarusso helped me out last night11:24
tonyyarussohjmills: Sounds like a plan.  You could work on writing up a spec on the wiki and launchpad too while you're at it.11:24
rapidXChrisCX, kde - kget11:24
sidny4hjmills: that works11:24
plypkiessmasood: i seem to have this thing running: "/sbin/ipw3945d-2.6.17-10-generic"11:24
XChrisCXWhat about something I can plug into firefox perhaps? Or some kind of GUI interface.11:24
nelsonuwpI havent installed or done anything with my external hard drive yet. I just want to make sure it works for windows and linux11:24
JosefK<3 scheme11:24
plypkielemme just check what package it's in11:24
hjmillswhy does installing beagle suggest installing gnumeric?11:24
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hjmillstonyyarusso: any guide on writing up a spec for that?11:25
wastreli like gnumeric11:25
imbecilei just have to say that ubuntu blows fc outta the water11:25
JosefKhjmills, I hadn't noticed that, and it's an odd one11:25
plypkiessmasood: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic  is the package11:25
plypkiessmasood: maybe you have something similar11:25
jartdoes anyone know why 'bitstream vera sans mono' doesn't show up in xfontsel with edgy?11:25
wastreli imagine it uses a library so it can understand gnumeric files?11:25
ssmasoodplypkie.....lemmee check...i am in real trouble:)11:25
tonyyarussohjmills: I think there is - I'd search for something like SpecTemplate on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/, and look at a few of the ones that have been done before.11:25
pike_nelsonuwp: itll be fat32 and should work from solaris to ubuntu to windows11:25
h00tthanx all i got it11:26
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plypkiessmasood: aptitude search linux-restricted11:26
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villerhi11:26
pike_nelsonuwp: so yes11:26
hjmillstonyyarusso: thanks11:26
ssmasoodplypkie...i am trying that11:26
villeris there any other CLI mail client than mutt or pine?11:26
jarti installed ttf-bitstream-vera but i can't use it :(11:26
Yodudehello it's me again11:26
Yodudebut now from ubuntu!11:26
Yodude:)11:26
jartand emacs looks ugly with all other fonts11:26
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JosefKjart: two secs, I'll screenshot my emacs..11:27
^T-crimbo^fuck unbuntu11:27
^T-crimbo^its shit11:27
Yodudehey i'm having a big problem with ubuntu11:27
^T-crimbo^im  gonna use gentoo11:27
keychain6xubuntu is so good11:27
^T-crimbo^unbuntu too many bugs11:27
^T-crimbo^nah11:27
Juhaz!ops11:27
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!11:27
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tonyyarusso!ohmy | ^T-crimbo^11:27
ubotu^T-crimbo^: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:27
jart^T-crimbo^: if you're going to be an elitist, i recommend OpenBSD11:27
nelsonuwpwell thanks pike.. so what the hell is solaris?11:27
TIBS01i am11:27
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jartit's the official distro of trolls11:27
PriceChildWhat's your question Yodude ?11:28
JosefKjart, http://randolphcarter.myby.co.uk/linux/emacs.png11:28
imbecilei cant say i didnt see that coming11:28
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imbecilehehe11:28
JosefKjart, emacs snapshot <3 freetype11:28
keychain6xlol, OpenBSD, it doesn't get anymore elitist than that11:28
siv0xyodude: welcome back, what problem are you having?11:28
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idlemindhello11:28
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jartbeautiful, i just don't have time to port my .emacs to snapshot :(11:28
plypkiessmasood: also, do you have a module loaded called ieee80211?11:28
Yodudehelp please11:29
JosefKack :/11:29
ssmasoodplypkie.....yes i can see three things in....aptitude search linux-restricted11:29
Pie-ratehow would i make my gnome-panel black?11:29
idlemindexcuse me, anyone know if you chroot jail users when the log in via ssh?11:29
txoofI get the error "cupsdAuthorize: pam_authenticate() returned 7 (Authentication failure)!"  When I try to access the admin pages in cups. Any ideas what might be the problem.  I've tried the privleged user, root, I've even tried setting a password for cupsys.  None of those work.11:29
villeris there any other CLI mail client than mutt or pine?11:29
JosefKidlemind, mnot by default11:29
imbecilekeychain6x, yeah i hear ya on that one.. the guy who convinced me to switch over to a *nix OS was a open bsd user11:29
tonyyarussoidlemind: (I'd like to know how to do that too, btw)11:29
txoofidlemind: no11:29
siv0xyodude: i cannot help unless you tell me what you are having problems with.11:29
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Yodudei cannot access my harddrive hrough ubuntu LiveCD11:29
plypkiessmasood: ok, you'll need to install the right linux-restricted package (maybe linux-restricted-generic ?)11:29
idlemindjosefk: so just rtfm and find out what config options11:29
tonyyarusso!rtfm | idlemind11:29
ubotuidlemind: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.11:29
jartJosefK: how can you stand programming with a white background?  isn't it like staring at a lightbulb?11:29
ssmasoodplypkie....i dont have ieee loaded neither...ipw394511:30
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wastrelviller:  mailx11:30
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wastrelalso elm11:30
siv0xyodude: i thought you installed linux onto your hardrive?11:30
idlemindtonyyarusso: thank you lol; un-aware of that rule11:30
mikehow can i capture audio from a website?11:30
tolisplypkie: any news ????11:30
Yodudeno on LiveCD11:30
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Yodudebut it's doing many big problems!11:30
txoofmike: with a tape recorder.11:30
Yodudeno sound!11:30
tonyyarussoidlemind: I did it for logins with ftp, and was pretty simple.  Involved setting an option on, and then creating a list of users to chroot.  Where to depended on /etc/passwd.  I'm guessing ssh is similar.11:30
JosefKjart, I thought that for a while, always used a dark with vim, but I guess I just prefer the light background in emacs11:30
plypkietolis: sorry, trying to do 3 things at once11:30
Yodudeno hardrive!11:30
Yodudeplease help me!11:31
plypkietolis: i was going to suggest upgrading to a newer kernel, but it seems that you have a pretty new one already11:31
ssmasoodplypkie...how do i install linux restricted???11:31
tolisplypkie: understand sorry !!!11:31
kane77how do I upgrade to gnome 2.16?? (I use dapper and have gnome 2.14)11:31
jartwhite is just too visial studio for me11:31
miketxoof, was that a joke? i want to record to my harddrive11:31
siv0xyodude: You dont understand. LiveCD does not run on your Hard Drive, it doesnt install.11:31
idlemindtonyyarusso: ya i'll see what i can dig up in the man pages and such11:31
Yodudei know11:31
plypkiessmasood: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-generic11:31
Yodudethat's why i'm using it fits perfectly my needs11:31
pike_mike: what format? if just wanting to capture mp3s id just recommend streamtuner and streamripper11:31
txoofssmasood: add the restricted archive to your apt-get config in /etc/apt/sources.list11:31
hjmillscan anybody recommend a programming language for easy creation of gui apps for gnome that I can learn the basics of programming with (teaching myself)11:31
keychain6ximbecile, I tried installing that on my machine. It was so hard man.11:31
Yodudebut i thought it would run normally ( i little slower i know bcuz of CD)11:32
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mikepike_, i want a way to record into a format i could put onto an ipod11:32
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siv0xyodude: to get sound type alsamixer in terminal. hit enter ofcourse and then from there, everything with an MM at the bottom, select it with your arrow keys and press M to unmute. also make sure all the volumes are turned up.11:32
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txoofany ideas what would cause cups to barf on a pam_autheticate error when I try to access the admin pages via the web?11:32
Yodudeok wait11:32
plypkiehjmills: lots of people seem to like Python, and they claim it's easy to learn11:32
ssmasoodplypkie..it says couldnt find any package linux-restricted-modules-generic11:33
mikepike_, any ideas?11:33
hjmillsplypkie: thanks11:33
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imbecileanybody tell me how to install connect-0.6.2 ?11:33
plypkiessmasood: you said there were 3 matches when you searched?  which ones were there?11:33
JosefKhjmills, if you use a combination of a python-libglade and Glade (graphical GUI designer) it's hard to go wrong11:33
nelsonuwppike_: what the hell is solaris?11:33
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idlemindo and ? number 2 for the day; can i make apache2 to use the system users found in /etc/passwd for authentication? to avoid having two sets of user names and passwords to maintain11:33
txoofnelsonuwp: awww, that's cute.11:34
nelsonuwphey11:34
nelsonuwpim new11:34
nelsonuwpshh11:34
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keychain6xHey, anybody know if there's any geographic mapping software like ARCMAP for linux? It would be sweet to hook up the gps in my phone to my computer and map my town.11:34
ceacrohello again11:34
txoofnelsonuwp: solaris is an OS for/from sun.11:34
tonyyarussonelsonuwp: Sun Microsystems OS.11:34
mikeany one know how to record sound to my hardrive that my soeakers are playing?11:34
nelsonuwpthats what I thought11:34
tonyyarussonelsonuwp: It _has_ a desktop, but only really has respect on servers.11:34
che_benwayex-chat11:34
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Yodudewell there's the sound icon at the top right of the screen11:34
idlemindkeychain6x: howtoforge.com has a wardriving article that involves GPS mapping check that out for ideas it involves dumping to google earth11:34
nelsonuwpbut I didnt make the connection11:34
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JosefKtonyyarusso, I wouldn't say that, Sunray's coming on leaps and bounds11:35
nelsonuwpso thanks11:35
Yodudei clicked it and booste evrything11:35
nelsonuwpnow time to install linux.. ubunut11:35
nelsonuwpubuntu11:35
ceacrowhy is UBUNTU the best Linux Distro around the world?11:35
Yodudei even unmuted the capture!11:35
JosefK!best11:35
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.11:35
ssmasoodplypkie....linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386, linux-restricted-modules-386, linux-restricted-modules-common11:35
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txoofceacro: why am I the most handsome man in the world?11:35
plypkiessmasood: ok, try that first one then11:35
tonyyarussoJosefK: Well, it may be getting there.  All I know is I haven't heard great things in the past.  Haven't even tried it myself.11:35
siv0xyodude: yes that will work too.. just make sure everything is unmuted and you should be fine. might have to configure the sounds to the way you like.11:35
tonyyarussoceacro: I like the release schedule and community.11:35
JackInTheGreentxoof: You're not, I am11:35
wastrelwhat's sunray11:35
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txoofJackInTheGreen: hehe11:36
JosefKtonyyarusso, CDE's pretty much obsoleted now, they're using Gnome right now and it's great.  I flew out to bratislava, inserted my staff card and got my desktop session from munich11:36
ceacroaccording to distrowatch the best distro is ubuntu11:36
keychain6xoh thanks idlemind. that's great.11:36
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kane77ceacro, well, its subjective, but i think it's for its ease of use, and almost everything works out of the box... plus the community is large and very helpful...11:36
mikeYodude, but how do i capture?11:36
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tonyyarussoJosefK: Maybe worth a second look then.11:36
Yodudei'm new sorru11:36
ceacrovisit distrowatch.com11:36
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JosefKwastrel, it's a thin-client/mainframe platform11:37
tonyyarussoceacro: You're best bet, pop a live cd in and hang out here for a while, and see what you think for yourself :)11:37
Yodudebut i still don't hear any sound, to check i went to System-Preferences-Sound11:37
wilee85is there a command line to synchronize the system clock with an ntp server?11:37
idlemind<= community11:37
imbecileanybody know if there is a  connect-0.6.2 with an installer?11:37
ssmasoodplylkie...i wrote aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386, but it says No packages installed or upgraded11:37
Yodudeand when i try to playback any even volume i get NOTHING11:37
mnoirwilee85: man ntpdate11:37
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idlemindwilee85: i believe it's the ntp-date command11:37
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Yodudealso ubuntu is always seeing my intel sound card as the default11:37
Yodudebut i want to use my other one11:38
siv0xyodude, okay11:38
nelsonuwpok, one last thing before i install.... what is the best way to get my drivers back on my computer... find and save them now? or get them when i have ubuntu installed?11:38
siv0xyodude: sec11:38
crimsunYodude: asoundconf list11:38
Yodudebut i can't everytime i set it it goes back to intel!11:38
HighLifeDoes anyone know of a multi threaded app that will convert .avito a smaller .avi?11:38
ceacroR.T.F.M11:38
ceacroRead the Fucking Manual11:38
plypkiessmasood: dpkg -l linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-38611:38
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ceacrobefore asking11:38
siv0xYodude: Listen to crimsun. i'm pretty much giving you the same information he gave me.11:38
tonyyarussonelsonuwp: For what?  The drivers for Ubuntu won't be the same as in Windows.11:38
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plypkiessmasood: tell me if it says "ii" at the start of the line11:38
tonyyarussoceacro: We don't allow that phrase though.11:39
nelsonuwpk11:39
nelsonuwpso thereare different drivers11:39
nelsonuwp?11:39
plypkiessmasood: that would mean that the package is already installed11:39
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nelsonuwpk so what about getting the drivers for my wireless card and all that stuff11:39
idlemindtonyyarusso: http://www.tjw.org/chroot-login-HOWTO/11:39
wilee85mnoir, idlemind, thanks11:39
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ceacrothe freedom of speech11:39
tonyyarussonelsonuwp: Yeah.  Mostly they're built into the kernel.  You may want to check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport to see if anything is likely to cause problems.11:39
Yodudei didn't understand what he said11:39
ceacrois UBUNTU11:39
tonyyarussoidlemind: Awesome.11:39
idlemindtonyyarusso: found it in a link in openssh's mailing lists11:39
idlemindwilee85: np11:39
ssmasoodplypkie..yes it has an "i" in front of all those 311:39
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kane77wilee85, ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com11:39
wastrel!rtfm | ceacro11:39
ubotuceacro: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.11:39
plypkienelsonuwp: your drivers should be installed automatically11:39
crimsunYodude: type that command in a Terminal and tell me the output.11:39
wastrel!ohmy | ceacro11:40
ubotuceacro: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:40
imbecileis wifi-radar pretty intuitive?11:40
mikehow can i capture audio playign through my speakers!!!!?11:40
cafuego_HighLife: You can recode media (resize, change bitrate, change format) using ffmpeg.11:40
siv0xyodude: go to terminal and type asoundconf list and hit enter.11:40
ceacrothat is a common expression used for Linux users11:40
txoofmike, google.  Serriously.  there are about 30 apps that will do it.11:40
Yodudehow do i access the terminal ( sorry but i'm a firsrt timer here )11:40
kane77ceacro, ...but not very polite...11:40
JackInTheGreenWhat is the difference of: "Freedom, as in free beer" and "Freedom as in free software"?11:40
plypkiessmasood: try this: dpkg -L linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-38611:40
crimsunYodude: Applications> Accessories> Terminal11:40
plypkiessmasood: that will list the contents of the package11:40
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ceacroohh. Liberty of speech11:41
plypkiessmasood: then you can see if it has the ipw3945 in there11:41
imbecileread the DANG manual hehe11:41
ceacroNow I am a priest11:41
imbecilertdm11:41
miketxoof, well i cant find any woudl u liek to help me?11:41
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plypkiessmasood: i have to go get ready to go to work.  i'll be back in 20 minutes11:41
idlemindtony: might be easier to just make sure we screw-down the security via permissions and keep a close eye on sshd/ssh/bash bugs11:41
cafuego_JackInTheGreen: free as in beer means no monetary cost, free as in libre means you'renot limited in how you sue it, including using the source to change it.11:41
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ceacroMay God help user to read the manual before asking11:41
SlartAnyone know of a simple backup program, preferably console based, that can use incremental backup?11:41
Yodudeok i did it11:41
ceacroLOL11:41
txoofJackInTheGreen: free beer = delicious and corpreal; free speech, software, thought = free, but not substantial.11:41
imbecilelol11:41
Yodudei got two result lines11:41
crimsunYodude: and what are they?11:42
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Yodudeone is I82801DBICH411:42
ssmasoodplypkie...ok man i am waiting...yes that dpkg command worked11:42
JackInTheGreencafuego_ txoof tnx guys11:42
mikewill anyone help me?11:42
crimsunYodude: right, that's your onboard Intel.11:42
blas_i can see, video resolution in kubuntu's display settings in X but only 60hz is available in the list, how can i add more option there?11:42
tonyyarussoidlemind: Much of the time anyway.  (My main purpose would probably to avoid new users getting lost in /usr/share/something and not knowing how to get home...)11:42
Yodudeand the other is CMI8738MC611:42
Mastastealthhey guys, I just updated my linux-image package today, and now Ubuntu won't boot. Grub complains about a file not found...any ideas?11:42
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crimsunYodude: now in the same Terminal, type: asoundconf set-default-card CMI8738MC611:42
Yodudei know i don't want to use my moither booard11:42
nix_ferretSlart, I just installed a backup proggie w/ automatix, but I haven't tried it yet.11:42
txoofSlart: try backup2l.  It's quite good and easy to configure.11:42
Fahanyone using compiz+ati+edgy?11:42
Yodudeok wait11:42
nameyou know any good linux games, except of et ;)11:42
logivisionDoes anybody here know anything about networking with window's ?11:42
kane77JackInTheGreen, free as beer=freeware, free as speech = meaning with open source code... (not closed source)11:42
cafuego_logivision: use samba, works fine :-)11:43
nix_ferretlogivision, like what?11:43
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diskusname: savage, tremulous...11:43
Yodudedidn't give me any result11:43
kane77name: openarena, tremulous, alienarena...11:43
Slartbackup2l then.. I'll check the one in automatix.. thanks nix_ferret and txoof11:43
crimsunYodude: good.11:43
mikehow can i capture audio that is being played through my speakers?11:43
tonyyarussologivision: I think there's a ##networking that might be worth a shot for some things.  Sharing things in Ubuntu, samba.11:43
Yodudejust anohter line to type a command in11:43
nameany non shooters11:43
tonyyarusso!automatix | Slart11:43
ubotuSlart: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe11:43
kane77name: battle for wesnoth11:43
idlemindtonyyarusso: exactly i might just disable ssh access to my server since i relocated my virtual hosts logs for apache to the particular virtual hosts home dir so they can access them via ftp anyways11:43
eternal_pmike: trying to get rid of DRM, tisk tisk tisk ;)11:43
crimsunYodude: now restart your audio/video programs11:43
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mwe!fixres | blas_, you probably have to add the right specs for your monitor11:43
ubotublas_, you probably have to add the right specs for your monitor: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:43
wastrelname:  moon-buggy11:43
diskusname: that's hard... :P11:43
logivisionnix_ferret: I'm trying to use CrossOver and i need to network my linux machine with window's11:43
idlemindcheer to mike11:43
Yodudewait11:43
mikeeternal_p, nope, tryign to record audio from a website11:43
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Slartyes, I know, tonyyarusso. I'll be wevy wevy caweful.. ;)11:44
mikeidlemind, lol11:44
eternal_plogvision: what would that need crossover for11:44
Fahanyone know how I can get my meta key working right in compiz/xgl?11:44
tonyyarussoSlart: 'k :P11:44
skukzawell ive broken x11:44
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mikeskukza, beryl?11:44
idlemindlol; pipe the audio somehow to a file; time to go code spelunking in firefox11:44
mnoirvery careful = not using automatix11:44
nix_ferretlogivision, hmm, never did the ad hoc with nix. That's a good one...11:44
logivisioneternal_p: i need it to run a program11:44
ceacroGod help users who have problem with something11:44
faLUCEHi, is it possible to launch a program from a .sh script and redirect its input in an appearing window? thnks11:44
mikeidlemind, can u dumb that down a bit?11:44
eternal_pthat part I got, it wasd the networking that threw me11:44
ceacrolol11:44
skukzai went to init3 and then did sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop11:45
eternal_pbtw, CrossOver 6 is amazing :)11:45
ceacroLaugh Out Loud11:45
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mikelol11:45
faLUCEHi, is it possible to launch a program from a .sh script and redirect its STDOUY in an appearing window? thnks11:45
skukzanow when i try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start11:45
Yodudedidn't get no sound ( when i go to System-Prefs-Sound i still see the name of the intel card at the bottom)11:45
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skukzait says it isnt configured propperly11:45
crimsunYodude: ignore what's said in System> Preferences> Sound11:45
txoofanyone know what would cause cups to barf when it treis to pam_authenticate() over a web connection?11:45
idlemindmike: just a theory; the web-site has to push the stream of music data down to you; who knows what format you could possible program the web-browser to pipe that recieved data to a file11:45
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nix_ferretJMHO, but I didn't have any problems with automatix on 6.10. It now includes a uninstall feature which is pretty handy.11:45
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crimsunYodude: tell me if ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' is audible through the desired sound card11:46
Yodudeok11:46
logivisioneternal_p: It's a client software that connects to a server. The Server has to be run off of Window's, but apparently the client software works with linux. My best thought is that they people that got it working (not geniuses by any means) are using CrossOver. It saves alot of money not having to pay to install Window's on all the client PC's11:46
idlemindmike: other option would be to create an audio device that simply dumbs raw sound to a file then use an audio converter app to read that (<- probably the easier way to go)11:46
wastrel!automatix | nix_ferret11:46
ubotunix_ferret: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe11:46
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nix_ferretJeez, I know, I know already...11:46
tonyyarussotxoof: I had to make the cupsys user a member of the shadow group for something.  That may be your issue, maybe not.11:46
idlemindmike: for the second option you could probably get with the guys that work with alsa i'm sure they've develop'd such a device for some such "testing" purpose11:46
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Yodudewell i pasted aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav in the terminal it said "playing" but still no sound11:47
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crimsunYodude: then you need to adjust the volumes.11:47
mikeidlemind, i dont know any code....11:47
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nix_ferretYodude, I know this sounds stupid, but is it a laptop?11:47
crimsunYodude: you can use alsamixergui to do that (you'll need to install alsamixergui using Synaptic)11:47
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Yodudeno it's a desktop11:47
skukzahow do i install gcc without x11:48
idlemindmike: bummers; i'd hit the alsa mailing list and see if someone has done such a thing or possibly you can do a hardware capture; like buy something that takes analog input and records it like dubbing a tape but the input would be from your computer11:48
mweskukza: sudo aptitude install gcc?11:48
crimsunskukza: sudo aptitude install build-essential11:48
ZambeziAnyone know the commando for download folders in lftp? It didn't work with mget and get.11:48
idlemindmike: you could try some nature of audio/music shop they might have such a device or mixer or something11:48
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logivisioneternal_p: any idea's ?11:48
crimsunZambezi: mirror.11:48
idlemindmike: then you could play that in through line-in and use an audio app like audicity to record it11:48
crimsunmike: use the file alsa-lib plugin.11:48
mikethere shoudl be a free program somewhere11:49
crimsunmike: we've provided it as part of alsa-lib since the 0.5 days.11:49
mweskukza: what crimsun suggests will provide a working compile environment as well11:49
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mikeidlemind, in ubuntu there is sound recorder, but i cant get it to work11:49
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idlemindmike: i'm just spittin ideas out there11:49
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skukzaok thanks11:49
skukzanow to try and fix my totally buggered system :)11:49
mikeidlemind, coudl u help me get sound recorder to actually record?11:49
ssmasoodplypkie....r u back?11:49
nix_ferretYodude, do you have an integrated sound card AND a pci card?11:50
mikecrimsun, what is the alsa-lib plugin11:50
Yodudei don't see yes i do nix11:50
crimsunmike: it's called 'file'11:50
Yodudein windows i just don't use one n use the other11:50
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Mastastealthhey guys, I just updated my linux-image package today, and now Ubuntu won't boot. Grub complains about a file not found...any ideas?11:50
crimsunmike: read the alsa-lib documentation online under pcm plugins at http://www.alsa-project.org11:50
nix_ferretYodude, it might be "playing" to the other one. Is it disabled in the BIOS?11:50
Yodudethe non integrated sound card?11:51
nix_ferretyeah11:51
nix_ferreterr, no, disable the other - integrated11:51
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crimsunYodude: did you adjust the volumes for the cmi?11:51
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Yodudewell i can use it in windows so that means it's not disabled in BIOS11:51
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crimsunYodude: until you do so, you probably won't be able to hear anything.11:51
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nix_ferretYodude, Just a shot in the dark, but swap out the audio cable to the other port/card.11:52
nix_ferret*unless you already did this...11:52
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siv0xcrimsun: Yodude is on LiveCD by the way so there might be another option for him11:53
Yodudewqell i tried putting my iPod speakers in the inget=grated intel card11:53
Yodudedidn't work11:53
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crimsunsiv0x: it's the same precise procedure.11:53
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ssmasoodcan anybody plz help me.....i was talking to someone regarding my intel proset 3945 wireless a/b/g...i now have a file ipw3945 in /sbin..what do i do next11:54
Napis it possible that a firefox command run on a remote ssh connection launch the local firefox ?? o_O11:54
crimsunYodude: no, your default audio card is the cmi now. You need to adjust -its- volume, not the onboard's.11:54
Napon edgy11:54
idlemindyodude: your card isn't set to digital output mode is it?11:54
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nix_ferretYodude, doesn't the device manager tel you what ubuntu can "see"11:54
wastrelhi nap11:54
idlemindnap: from a linux sshd to a linux ssh client yes with X forwarding it is possible11:54
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JAyRULEhow do you ubuntu users tyipcally deal with windows media file types?11:54
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Yodudei did i picked the CMI card in from the menu i got from the top right sound icon11:55
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Yodudeand i unmuted everything11:55
Zambezicrimsun, Thanks for the help.11:55
Yoduden maxed all of the bars11:55
Some_Personwhats the best irc client?11:55
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nix_ferretJAyRULE, install the open (or sometimes closed) source codecs11:55
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mwe!best | Some_Person11:55
ubotuSome_Person: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.11:55
mikeany help with recording audio from what my speakers are playing?11:55
wastrel<3 mwe11:55
JAyRULEnix_ferret: is that in the synaptic package manager?11:56
wastrelthat is an awesome factoid11:56
wastrelaw3s0m311:56
crimsunYodude: counterintuitively, unmuting -everything- won't work.11:56
JAyRULEnix_ferret...and whats it called if it's there11:56
nix_ferretJAyRULE, no, it can't come with the distribution11:56
Yodude'lol i'm lost11:56
mweSome_Person: xchat and irssi might be good candidates depending on what you want11:56
eitanhey guys, I need help with gsynaptics, the laptop touchpad editor.  The touchpad settings are not loaded after a reboot, but are loaded after a log-out / log-in.  I have this in start-up.. "gsynaptics-init --sm-disable"  Thanks!11:56
Yodudei don't understand why ubuntu isn't playing sound11:56
mikecan i have help with sound recorder application sin ubuntu!!!!?11:56
nix_ferretJAyRULE, READ up on automatix, easy ubuntu, and bumps2.011:56
Yodudecrappy old windows does why shouldn't ubuntu11:57
tannerldglxgears doesn't show anything after I installed the ati drivers; how can i fix that?11:57
crimsunYodude: I've told you what you need to do.11:57
Napidlemind: no, what I meant is that the local firefox is launch (I see it because of the conf, the personal bar, etc.), and not the remote one ! But I am in a remote shell !11:57
JAyRULEnix_ferret: sh!t thats a lot to read haha11:57
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nix_ferretnot really.11:57
crimsunYodude: first, use Synaptic to install the "alsamixergui" package11:57
crimsunYodude: it's in the universe component, so you may need to enable it.11:57
WestTrain /server irc.strayaland.org11:57
nix_ferretJAyRULE, just go to ubuntu's forums or goolge it11:57
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nix_ferret!automatix11:57
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe11:57
west_coast_choppanyone from greece?11:57
JAyRULEoh okay... thanks nix_ferret11:57
nix_ferret!automatix|easy ubuntu11:58
ubotueasy ubuntu: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe11:58
nix_ferretnp11:58
west_coast_choppanyone from greece?11:58
mnoir!gr11:58
ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes11:58
RugWhat command can I run to swap/select between kdm, gdm and xdm?11:58
nix_ferretI like gyros, does that help? (know's that's not really "greek")11:58
fdovingRug: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm11:58
Rugfdoving: thanks11:59
Yodudecrimsun: i entered synaptic package manager11:59
fdovingRug: you can replace gdm with kdm or xdm if you want.11:59
Yodudeand i don't see alsamixergui11:59
Rugfdoving: yeah thanks11:59
Yodudei only see two names with alsa11:59
crimsunYodude: remember what I said about universe above?11:59
Yodudealsabase11:59
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Yodudeand alsatools11:59
crimsunYodude: please pay close attention to what I typed.11:59
Yodudealsa-utils*11:59
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eitanhey guys, I need help with gsynaptics, the laptop touchpad editor.  The touchpad settings are not loaded after a reboot, but are loaded after a log-out / log-in.  I have this in start-up.. "gsynaptics-init --sm-disable"  Thanks!12:00
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ssmasoodplypkie.....r u back12:00
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Yodudesorry but i didn't understand12:00
Yodudei thought u were just informing me12:00
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Yodudewhat does it help me to know that it's a universe component?12:00

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