[12:00] <imbecile> cntb, yeah imma give it 20 just to be safe
[12:00] <stefg> imbecile: gParted isn't perfect in deali9ng with NTFS
[12:01] <aoirthoir> aha
[12:01] <imbecile> stefg, yeah i heard that in a few forums
[12:01] <Boglizk> Why wont mplayer and mozilla-mplayer show up in apt-get? They do on Ubuntus packagelist ....
[12:01] <cntb> imbecile: also to be useful
[12:01] <Euphidime> Hey everyone, I'm trying to fix the MBR (remove GRUB) on a Windows partition from the Ubuntu Live CD, as I don't have my Windows XP CD to use the Recovery Console. Is this possible?
[12:01] <Arrick_Idle> hey gaten Cannot open yoru terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check
[12:01] <mnoir> aoirthoir: i am not sure i gave you correct advice
[12:01] <aoirthoir> OK back..I put this in .bashrc export EDITOR=/usr/bin/gphpedit
[12:01] <gaten> Arrick_Idle:  hmm, never seen that one. try running it as root
[12:01] <Boglizk> Euphidime: I think you can use some kind of floppy
[12:01] <imbecile> cntb, yeah i know.. if it were 10 i'd be full in like 2 days hehe
[12:02] <Euphidime> Boglizk: I don't have a Floppy drive
[12:02] <imbecile> ok you guys imma try this
[12:02] <aoirthoir> mnoir np I dont mind experimenting..I gave the export a try and it didnt work ...still using gedit
[12:02] <mnoir> aoirthoir: that only works for things that look at EDITOR
[12:02] <aoirthoir> ah
[12:02] <Kira> Hello
[12:02] <imbecile> stefg: cntb: thanks for your help
[12:02] <mnoir> aoirthoir: how are you calling up the edit?\
[12:02] <Boglizk> Euphidime: Well you could edit the GRUB and make it boot Windows immedietly..
[12:02] <Boglizk> :p
[12:02] <Euphidime> That would do fine
[12:03] <aoirthoir> mnoir just double clicking in nautilus
[12:03] <kcinna> damn. cdrecord didn't work either
[12:03] <kcinna> some problem as always
[12:03] <stefg> imbecile: btw, did I mention to do a backup first :-)
[12:03] <mnoir> aoirthoir: if in nautilus, then you should be able to set the default easily, sec
[12:03] <Kira> Is there a mail client that can output e-mail message sources to stdout? Or can somebody suggest away of achieving the same thing? I need one to pipe e-mail messages to a mail parser program.
[12:03] <Euphidime> It's just that I get an "Error 17" whenever I try to boot from the hard disk, so anything that'll get me back on my Windows installation would work.
[12:03] <kcinna> this image plays fine in a directory but won't burn to a disc
[12:03] <kcinna> perhaps my drive is broken?
[12:03] <aoirthoir> np willin to wait..thanks for the help
[12:04] <Arrick_Idle> gaten, that drops me to root
[12:04] <aoirthoir> aha I found it
[12:04] <Boglizk> Euphidime: Do you have Linux left or did you remove it?
[12:04] <Boglizk> Becouse the Ubuntu CD has a fix mbr thingy
[12:04] <Euphidime> Removed it because I needed space on this box :p
[12:04] <aoirthoir> right click..click properties...ok maybe i found it
[12:04] <Euphidime> I'm on the UBuntu CD right now
[12:05] <gaten> everytime i do anything to my windows partitions on sda (ls, df etc), my system wont stop reading to part. sudo kill -9 won't kill the process in queston, nor will umount -f work. any ideas
[12:05] <cody_> Anyone here able to help me to get Eclipse up and running?
[12:05] <gaten> Arrick_Idle:  it will start a new bash shell. then do what i told you to make new "windows
[12:06] <stefg> gaten, what filesystem? ntfs?
[12:06] <mnoir> aoirthoir: it is mimetypes i think - i am still looking
[12:06] <aoirthoir> mnoir I got it
[12:06] <aoirthoir> but it wont work with .sql files
[12:06] <gephalt> Hi, i've been talking on windows for a while and trying to figure out how i could set up a DHCP server / ftp etc on a dual boot box. Network consists of 35 PCs all connected via a switch. There's no internet connection. What I need to know is how to configure my ubuntu OS to work as a DHCP server.
[12:06] <gaten> stefg:  yes
[12:07] <aoirthoir> you right click on the file, choose properties then choose open with tab..then add your program to that...
[12:07] <aoirthoir> and finally select it
[12:07] <robt> harrisony1: ok, ive figured out a bit more, it appears that the keys i want to use are mapped by something else already
[12:07] <gephalt> On that note, would it be possible to run a software router on the same machine?
[12:07] <mnoir> but that is only for that file i think
[12:07] <LameBMX> stefg, managed to get it installed .. fake raid dorcks
[12:07] <robt> harrisony1: F10 for example is file menu
[12:07] <LameBMX> :)
[12:07] <aoirthoir> its working with all the php files
[12:07] <robt> robt: if i select F12 for example for initiate window picker, it works fine
[12:07] <mnoir> aoirthoir: there has to be a place to set the default - there is in kde
[12:07] <stefg> LameBMX: good to hear
[12:07] <exs> what is NAT networking under  vmware about?
[12:08] <harrisony1> ahhh with beryl use the super key (windows key) and stuff
[12:08] <mnoir> ok - i guess ya got it
[12:08] <stefg> !ntfs | gaten
[12:08] <ubotu> gaten: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[12:08] <robt> harrisony1: so now i need to find out what is mapping those keys and how to stop it from grabbing them exclusively
[12:08] <mnoir> :)
[12:08] <cody_> Eclipse anyone? I am getting errors while I am trying to run it
[12:08] <aoirthoir> thanks:)
[12:08] <aoirthoir> but it isnt workingwith the SQL files
[12:08] <stefg> !fuse | gaten
[12:08] <ubotu> gaten: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:08] <mnoir> glad to be of service
[12:08] <aoirthoir> since it wants to run them as a program
[12:08] <harrisony1> exs, in each virtual machine
[12:08] <mnoir> :(
[12:08] <LameBMX> yea .. best way to learn is to keep tryin
[12:08] <gaten> stefg:  ill look at those, but im not writing, only reading.
[12:09] <Euphidime> Boglizk: Any idea what the command is? :p
[12:09] <lukus001> Hi, can someone tell me how I can make a certain app run on a specific local port?
[12:09] <gephalt> Hello- i need to know its possible to use a linux Box as a DHCP server in a dominantly windows network- by network, its just all the PCs connected via a switch
[12:09] <LameBMX> http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotws9.png
[12:09] <mnoir> gephalt: yes it is
[12:10] <chrisjw> hi again, does ubuntu make any restrictions against RAW IP other than needing to be root?
[12:10] <gephalt> mnoir: can i possible run a router on the same box?
[12:10] <stefg> gaten, the kernel ntfs-support is somewhat.... errr.... better get ntfs3g, works for me without problems for some time now (r/w). only make sure the ntfs-compression is turned off
[12:10] <chrisjw> im trying to create my own tcp packet but having problems with sendto
[12:10] <Boglizk> Euphidime: Command to do what?
[12:10] <exs> harrisony1:  "What will be the netmask of your private network?" vmware is asking me. P.s. I'm going to install xp, and I want to be able to use online applications in windows xp.
[12:10] <Euphidime> Fix the MBR from the Ubuntu CD :x
[12:11] <Boglizk> Ohh
[12:11] <mnoir> gephalt: define router
[12:11] <Boglizk> Euphidime: Hold on a sec
[12:11] <gaten> stefg:  i tried that, and that's when the problems started. perhaps i didnt turn off compression
[12:11] <Euphidime> Ok, thanks
[12:12] <aoirthoir> ok its mostly solved....its still trying to open the SQL files as a program but I added gphpedit to the list now if I right click i can choose it as the first option
[12:12] <aoirthoir> thansk again yall!
[12:12] <aoirthoir> UBUNTU ROCKS
[12:12] <finn__> did that last line of mine come through? had a reconnect
[12:12] <stefg> gaten: ah... i see, maybe you should run a filesystem check from windows (chkdsk()
[12:12] <harrisony1> exs, choose NAT and keep going yes or no
[12:12] <chrisjw> anyone?"?
[12:12] <chrisjw>  does ubuntu make any restrictions against RAW IP other than needing to be root?
[12:12] <harrisony1> exs,  imageshack.us a screenie
[12:13] <c1ru> good night
[12:13] <harrisony1> chrisjw, sudoers list???
[12:13] <exs> harrisony1:  "The answer "windowz" is invalid.  It must be of the form a.b.c.d where a, b, c ...and d are decimal numbers between 0 and 255."
[12:13] <chrisjw> what?
[12:13] <gephalt> mnoir: software router- on the ubuntu box- connected via the switch. or did I just went over my head this time ? ;)
[12:13] <chrisjw> what is sudi ers list
[12:13] <chrisjw> sudo ers list*
[12:13] <c1ru> i`m user of ubuntu64, and i want to know if i can install too ubuntu32
[12:13] <mnoir> chrisjw: what does "against RAW Ip " actually mean?
[12:13] <gaten> stefg:  well, windows is shot and vista is the next thing im installing. so right now i just want to back the stuff up. do you know of a chkdsk from linux? i can always boot to a windows CD, but id rather do it from here
[12:13] <chrisjw> well windows sp2 restricts you from sending a tcp packet using raw ip
[12:13] <chrisjw> does ubuntu do the same?
[12:13] <mnoir> gephalt: not sure - but you might want to look at something like IPCop on a cheap old small pc
[12:14] <Euphidime> chrisjw: Sudoers list is a list of user accounts that have permission to use sudo with their password
[12:14] <mnoir> chrisjw: what is raw ip?
[12:14] <harrisony1> exs, take a screenie and put on imageshack.us or some were else
[12:14] <chrisjw> building the IP packet yourself
[12:14] <stefg> gaten: no way for linux to check a ntfs for consistency.... take winXP install cd and run chkdsk from the rescue console
[12:14] <gaten> chrisjw:  no restrictions that im aware of. u could use netcat and find out
[12:14] <chrisjw> then binding it to a socket then sending
[12:14] <exs> harrisony1:  I'm not sure it would help.. I'm using the terminal for this
[12:14] <gaten> stefg:  alright, thanks
[12:14] <harrisony1> oh
[12:15] <mnoir> chrisjw: no problem - what firewalling are you using?
[12:15] <harrisony1> lol welll you using player or workstation or server
[12:15] <chrisjw> no firewall other than my external router
[12:15] <chrisjw> runs network address translation
[12:15] <mnoir> chrisjw: ubuntu won't keep you from writing all the comm code you want
[12:15] <darius_> gephalt: may want to look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuWirelessRouter
[12:16] <marl> hi can someone tell me if ubuntu can be made to run on a AMD Geode LX800 embeded board?
[12:17] <LjL> Ubotu, tell nergar about away | nergar, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:17] <marl> or can someone tell me what the last version of ubuntu was that used the 2.4 kernel?
[12:17] <harrisony1> marl, i dont see what not
[12:17] <marl> i just get it 6 hanging on the LX :(
[12:17] <daishadar> does anyone know if WPA works out of the box with ubuntu 6.10?
[12:18] <c1ru> i`m user of ubuntu64, and i want to know if i can install too ubuntu32, anyone know any guide?
[12:18] <marl> it almost apearst o be a problem witht he 2.6 kernel
[12:18] <rpereira> daishadar: So so... network-manager is a package that correct WPA support.
[12:19] <marl> so any pointers on the last ubuntu realse that used 2.4 kernel?
[12:19] <daishadar> rpereira, so i need to apt get network manager? going to have to lug this to an ethernet port to do that...
[12:19] <Sebboh> My ubuntu desktop doesn't seem to have an /etc/init.d/inetd script...  What?  I just need to run swat.  How get it to listen on port 901?
[12:19] <borg> excuse me, i just downloaded the opera ubuntu deb package from the opera site, but now i have this dilema seeing as i have ALSA as my sound server how do i tell Opera to use ALSA? cause i have no sound coming out for my flash movies
[12:20] <lynucs> hmm maybe you could tell opera to use esd
[12:20] <borg> but how?
[12:20] <lynucs> with esddsp opera
[12:20] <rpereira> daishadar: Yes. sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome   .
[12:20] <borg> in firefox i installed the ALSA-OSS package and told the firefoxrc thing to use aoss as the server and it works there
[12:21] <borg> but i cant find such an option in opera:config
[12:21] <borg> so um
[12:21] <borg> esddsp opera, right?
[12:22] <gansinho> hello, does anybody knows an app that works with the new blogger?
[12:22] <yodoc_> Which new blogger?
[12:23] <borg> actually hey i think "aoss opera" works
[12:23] <borg> w00t ok
[12:23] <yodoc_> Anyone know how to make Thunderbird send mail using an AOL imap account?
[12:23] <gansinho> yodoc_, the one that you need to have a google account, it is different from the previous... the current repos apps does not connect to ir...
[12:23] <gansinho> it*
[12:24] <gansinho> It was blogger beta until a few weeks...
[12:24] <Euphidime> Boglizk: I found a tutorial on how to do it, but what they're telling me to do doesn't work. It says to type grub-install /dev/hda1, but when I do that, grub-install says "/dev/hda1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive." I already made sure it's mounted, it is.
[12:24] <yodoc_> Hmmm, can't help you there.  New to linux here, and I don't blog much
[12:25] <pengulord> wheres the best place to get a cheap notebook
[12:25] <yodoc_> This is my first time on IRC
[12:25] <pengulord> congrats
[12:25] <pengulord> and welcome
[12:25] <aoirthoir> hey...
[12:25] <yodoc_> Cheap notebooks usually available at computer shows
[12:25] <aoirthoir> does anyone in here like ubuntu?
[12:25] <gansinho> yodoc_, thanks anyway... you need some help? just in thunderbird?
[12:25] <n2diy> pengulord: take a look at the Nokia 770
[12:25] <aoirthoir> noooooooo get a pepper pad..they rock
[12:26] <aoirthoir> bigger screen. hard drive... faster and just about the same price or even cheaper
[12:26] <Euphidime> Does anyone know how to help me with my problem? <_> When I try to boot GRUB it gives me an "Error 17"
[12:26] <yodoc_> Yes, trying to get T-bird to send mail on my AOL account, I have settings just the way everyone says they're supposed to be, but no mail goes out.
[12:26] <malt> does anyone know a example of sending a email with postfix?
[12:26] <Wolfgang> Is there a way to run Steam on Ubuntu?
[12:26] <eitan> hey guys, I have a problem that started today...for some reason when I play music with my headphone in the jack, sound comes from my internal speakers + headphones
[12:27] <eitan> its working in winxp
[12:27] <Aggrav8d> hello, *
[12:27] <gansinho> yodoc_, did you tried any other mail client? if you're using gnome you could try evolution, it's a great app... I dunno what you maybe is missconfiguring, but sometimes changing the app just works
[12:27] <Wolfgang> The program that runs half-life by valve.
[12:27] <yodoc_> I'm having the exact same problem on Evo
[12:27] <Euphidime>  /dev/hda1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. :/
[12:27] <kitche> !away|rlp
[12:27] <ubotu> rlp: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[12:27] <jbroome> rlp: disable that script for this chan please
[12:27] <borg> !aoss
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aoss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <pengulord> will ubuntu run on that
[12:28] <stefg> eitan: that seems more of a hardware-problem... the little switch insde the headphone jack probalbly broke
[12:28] <Sebboh> When I connect to swat, it prompts me for user/pass.  My machine doesn't have a root password.  Now what?
[12:28] <eitan> stefg: it works in winxp, I'm running a dual boot
[12:28] <yodoc_> How do I quit the chat when I'm done?  (New IRC user here)
[12:28] <Aggrav8d> i want to add multiple users to my server so that they can each access their samba share and not muck with each other.  how do i do this?  I tried googling but only found samba install docs.
[12:28] <stefg> eitan: ok... then no hw-problem....
[12:28] <kitche> yodoc_: if your using xchat just go to the xchat menu then quit
[12:29] <fild0> or /quit
[12:29] <fild0> or /part
[12:29] <Aggrav8d> er, so that they can access their own samba share and not touch another person's samba share. </clarify>
[12:29] <gansinho> yodoc_, I never set up an imap account
[12:29] <gansinho> yodoc_, just right click in the #ubuntu and select close tab
[12:29] <fild0> Aggrav8d; u setup credentials
[12:29] <Sebboh> Aggrav8d, use swat, the samba web administration tool.  BUT, good luck getting swat to work in the first place.  See my question above.. =)
[12:29] <gansinho> yodoc_, I can help you out, if you be a bit patiente
[12:30] <eitan> stefg: i was playing around with sony_acpi modules today..the headphone jack worked yesterday
[12:30] <jbroome> pengulord: ebay or your local craigslist is good for used lappys
[12:30] <gansinho> yodoc_, my english is not very good
[12:30] <fild0> just setup manually :) smb.conf
[12:30] <fild0> its seriously isnt that hard
[12:30] <yodoc_> Tnx gansinho
[12:30] <Aggrav8d> sebboh - well i set up the first samba share, that wasn't too bad (should have written down how i did it) but multiple users is virgin territory for me.
[12:30] <gansinho> yodoc_, gimme some time to search for info to give you the guideline
[12:31] <yodoc_> gansinho your English seems fine to me
[12:31] <slacker_nl> hello to all :)
[12:31] <yodoc_> I'm an American -- I don't speak English!
[12:31] <gansinho> yodoc_, I misspell every time... =/
[12:31] <yodoc_> Your spelling is OK
[12:31] <slacker_nl> gansinho: every time seems to be spelled correctly ;)
[12:31] <flyinghippo> Hello.  Everytime I try entering the lowercase "d" character into Terminal, nothing happens.  This is a major problem, since it prevents me from entering commands.  Does anyone know of a solution to this?
[12:31] <ocr> does there exist a v 6.xx LTS Server network install image?
[12:32] <yodoc_> "misspell" was spelled correctly!
[12:32] <gansinho> slacker_nl, =p thanks
[12:32] <ocr> 450M is abit much to download on the link I currently use
[12:32] <n2diy> slacker_nl: unless he meant every thing? :)
[12:32] <flyinghippo> If it helps, this occured right after I installed WINE.  It usually happens after  install something.
[12:32] <slacker_nl> n2diy: yeah
[12:32] <yodoc_> flyinghippo does your keyboard need cleaning?
[12:32] <flyinghippo> *after I
[12:32] <slacker_nl> but he spelled every time correct
[12:32] <flyinghippo> No.
[12:32] <eitan> hey guys, I have a problem that started today...for some reason when I play music with my headphone in the jack, sound comes from my internal speakers + headphones
[12:32] <yodoc_> n2diy are you a ham?
[12:32] <magicfinger> hello
[12:32] <jbroome> !ot
[12:32] <n2diy> yodoc_: yep
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <flyinghippo> Because this only happends with the Terminal, and the lowercase "d" character, yodoc_.
[12:32] <magicfinger> can anyone help please
[12:32] <LjL> !offtopic
[12:32] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:33] <yodoc_> ---> K3LT here
[12:33] <gansinho> yodoc_, first, do you know the forum? You will have loads of info there, most of the times you'll find someone with a problem pretty similar to yours... or even better, a how to
[12:33] <n2diy> yodoc_: FB OM, where in 3 land?
[12:33] <magicfinger> does anyone know if its possible to install ubuntu on an usb hard rive please
[12:33] <yodoc_> I have sent many messages about this on ubuntuforums, and nobody seems able to give me the help I need to get it working right.
[12:33] <LjL> magicfinger: yes, it is.
[12:34] <magicfinger> thank you
[12:34] <flyinghippo> Make sure it's at least 3GB, Magicfinger.
[12:34] <ocr> does anyone know if there exists a v6.xx LTS Server network install image? the 450M iso is a tad big to download on the 512Kbit connection I have..
[12:34] <slacker_nl> yodoc_: what's your problem?
[12:34] <n2diy> yodoc_: FB OM, where in 3 land?
[12:34] <slacker_nl> yodoc_: as in, your problem with ubuntu :)
[12:34] <magicfinger> i just tried with windows xp but did not let me
[12:34] <yodoc_> Problem is I can't send E-mail using Thunderbird on my AOL account.  Receives OK, won't send mail out.
[12:35] <flyinghippo> Has anyone ever had a certain character unable to be entered in Terminal?  The lowercase "d" wil not enter in Terminal after I install a program/
[12:35] <magicfinger> is ubuntu any good
[12:35] <daedra> zomg 920 people in here!
[12:35] <slacker_nl> yodoc_: what are the settings for aol.com?
[12:35] <yodoc_> I've only used the terminal twice, can't recall any problems with letter "d"
[12:35] <ocr> flyinghippo: does your keyboard work?
[12:35] <flyinghippo> Magicfinger: Yes.
[12:35] <ocr> magicfinger: try it.
[12:35] <LjL> magicfinger: do you see the name of this channel?
[12:35] <flyinghippo> Ocr: Yes.  This only happens ni Terminal when I attempt to enter the lowercase "d" key.
[12:35] <flyinghippo> Anything else that uses the D key works in terminal.
[12:36] <yodoc_> Settings are imap.aol.com for outbound, smtp.aol.com for inbound
[12:36] <ocr> flyinghippo: thats weird, US-EN keyboard?
[12:36] <flyinghippo> Ocr: Yes.
[12:36] <flyinghippo> It randomly occured after I installed WINE.
[12:36] <gansinho> yodoc_, ok, let's start from scratch, I'll use evolution because I know it better... open it
[12:36] <slacker_nl> yodoc_: i think it should be the other way around
[12:36] <flyinghippo> It usually happens when I install stuff.
[12:36] <slacker_nl> imap for inbound, smtp for outbound
[12:36] <ocr> flyinghippo: usb or psaux?
[12:36] <yodoc_> I have the servers correct, they've been checked repeatedly
[12:36] <magicfinger> will all my software still work with ubuntu
[12:36] <flyinghippo> Ocr: It's uh... built into my laptop.
[12:36] <slacker_nl> yodoc_: that seems more logical to me
[12:36] <flyinghippo> Ocr: It used to work all the time.
[12:37] <slacker_nl> yodoc_: ok..
[12:37] <flyinghippo> Is there an alternative terminal program for Ubuntu?
[12:37] <slacker_nl> yodoc_: do you know how the smtp protocol works?
[12:37] <gephalt> is the smb package in the ubuntu repos configured with LDAP support?
[12:37] <n2diy> yodoc_: take a look at this: http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq#aol
[12:37] <kitche> flyinghippo: yes xterm eterm aterm
[12:37] <slacker_nl> hehehe, n2diy good call :)
[12:37] <yodoc_> Checking that site now, BRB
[12:37] <ubek_> i cant find app for gnome for cd burning mayby suggestion? :)
[12:38] <magicfinger> will all my software still work with this os
[12:38] <jbroome> i didn't even know you could pull aol mail from them to another client.  time to feed my spam machine
[12:38] <slacker_nl> ubek_: k3b (KDE app, but works fine)
[12:38] <ocr> flyinghippo: beats me:> try running another shell, if it reproduces the error in all shells and terminals, it might be a keymap/driver issue.. if its a driver issue, its probably in your kernel
[12:38] <slacker_nl> ubek_: and drag and drop with nautilus also works
[12:38] <gansinho> yodoc_, did you set up the port correctly?
[12:38] <kitche> magicfinger: well to run .exe you need to use wine and some .exe won't run or don't run fully
[12:38] <Gun_Smoke> I'm trying to find out if my system recoginzes a wireless card that has been installed.  Where do I look?
[12:38] <gansinho> yodoc_, double check it, should be 587
[12:38] <slacker_nl> Gun_Smoke: lspce | grep -i ether
[12:38] <slacker_nl> Gun_Smoke: lspci | grep -i ether
[12:39] <madman91> i have an mp3 and a cue .... how can i split the files?
[12:39] <magicfinger> so how will i set up my firewall if i cant run an exe
[12:39] <ubek_> slacker_nl: i know about k3b but its too much downoadignof packages such kde-base etc...
[12:39] <slacker_nl> ubek_: I burned some CD's with nautilus
[12:39] <kitche> !iptable|magicfinger linux has one built in you just have to configure it
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iptable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <yodoc_> I have bookmarked that page, I'll try again and follow those instructions to the letter.  Thanks for the help
[12:39] <kitche> !iptables|magicfinger linux has one built in you just have to configure it
[12:39] <ubotu> magicfinger linux has one built in you just have to configure it: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:40] <gaussian88> ?
[12:40] <slacker_nl> !cd-burn
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd-burn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <slacker_nl> !burn
[12:40] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[12:40] <magicfinger> thanks
[12:40] <slacker_nl> ubek_: check ubotu :)
[12:40] <svu> is feisty using gnome 2.16 or 2.17 ?
[12:40] <gaussian88> magicfinger: sudo apt-get install firestarter if you want something guified
[12:40] <ubek_> slacker_nl: thx
[12:40] <Yakaty> hi everyone
[12:41] <slacker_nl> ubek_: yw
[12:41] <magicfinger> also if i have xp installed on one hd and linux on another which one will boot up at start up
[12:41] <mnoir> magicfinger: the one that you tell it ot
[12:41] <mnoir> ot = to
[12:42] <gaussian88> magicfinger: I *think* the one you install last will usually become the primary OS
[12:42] <gaussian88> magicfinger: it's quite easy to change later on though
[12:42] <malt> does anyone know a example of sending a email with postfix?
[12:42] <magicfinger> ok do i need to do this in bios or will it give me an option while starting up
[12:42] <Yakaty> I've got an annoying problem here.. I installed Ubuntu Edgy on a laptop a while back so it dual booted with windows - everything went fine and worked perfectly so I decided to wipe the lot off there and just stick ubuntu on.. I couldnt find the ubuntu cd so i donwloaded a new one and now when I try booting up with it it gets to the first logo loading screen and then dumps me to busybox
[12:42] <gaussian88> magicfinger: Be carefull if you install Ubuntu first, then Windows later though
[12:42] <exs> guys just to check - I'm running vmware now, got the xp disc image mounted, I'm currently in the process of installing windows but I am not sure if I am supposed to go through with windows setup to tell it to "format" the partition?..
[12:43] <slacker_nl> malt: define example
[12:43] <gaussian88> magicfinger: I tend to install Windows *before* I install Ubuntu
[12:43] <magicfinger> i allready have windows installed
[12:43] <gaussian88> magicfinger: You're good to go.  Just install Ubuntu on your other drive
[12:43] <magicfinger> thanks all
[12:43] <gaussian88> magicfinger: The installer will see your Windows OS and will Play nicely with it
[12:44] <Yakaty> I've checked the cd and its ok and when I do a "ls /dev/hd*" my cdrom isn't showing up in there just hda :(
[12:44] <daedra> Yakaty: is your cdrom mounted?
[12:44] <magicfinger> so i just burn the iso and stick it in my cd rom during start up
[12:44] <daedra> Yakaty: you could try a sudo mount -a
[12:44] <gansinho> yodoc_, sorry I have to go... check the port... you could have misstyped it or smthng like that... check even if you need some special secure connection settings to send messeges, gmail asks for it... maybe aol asks to and you're not sending mail because of that (eg. gmail asks for sssl encryption)
[12:45] <Yakaty> daedra: what shall I mount though if /dev/hdc doesnt exist?
[12:45] <kitche> Yakaty: try /dev/cdrom
[12:45] <Yakaty> thats not there either
[12:45] <LameBMX> magicfinger, might i make the suggestion of having a lot of trust in the ubuntu install ... its pretty smart ... had one guy in here a while back which 90% of his problems was he was too used to windows
[12:45] <daedra> in ubuntu cdrom mounts from /dev/cdrom0 to /media/cdrom0
[12:46] <LameBMX> how can i keep things like automount junk off of my desktop?
[12:46] <Yakaty> daedra: its probably not got the helper program running to do that since its at the very first part of the installation
[12:46] <malt> like does anyone know how to send a email with postfix? like what is a example "command"?
[12:46] <gansinho> yodoc_, good luck, if I arrive at my girlfriends job late she kills me... sorry
[12:46] <Tsukaggin> Okay, I just left the room about 30 mins ago, and I just came in to find 2 search for files windows open. One is empty, the other has results being a Restore folder, with a long number, mount point manager remote database, and tracking.log. My firewall detects no hits. Have I been breached?
[12:46] <slacker_nl> malt: define example
[12:46] <daedra> oh I see...
[12:46] <ocr> can someone find me a netinstall x86 server iso image on a norwegian ftp/http? I only have Fetch (FreeBSD) on this machine, and Lynx and w3m are both broken
[12:46] <kitche> malt: postfix is an e-mail server there is no command that I know of unless you want to flush the spool
[12:47] <borg> set that ban
[12:47] <borg> yeah
[12:48] <Tsukaggin> . .  any one? Hello?
[12:48] <yodoc_> OK, I set up Thunderbird again, using the information at the website provided.  I composed a test message, and clicked on Send.  I have a window with a progress bar that keeps scrolling from left to right, and doesn't stop or confirm that the mail has been sent.  Now what?
[12:48] <Crankymonky> On my Ubuntu Dapper machine, I'm unable to get sound from more than one application at a time and to get sound often requires re-opening an app.  Any fix?
[12:49] <mnoir> Tsukaggin: not that likely - what do you have set to run in cron?
[12:49] <Tsukaggin> what's cron?
[12:49] <mnoir> !cron
[12:49] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[12:50] <minerale> Hi, I followd the instructions on here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs - and I still cant
[12:50] <minerale> play dvds...
[12:50] <robt> minerale: what happens?
[12:50] <Tsukaggin> Well, i havn't touched cron.
[12:50] <minerale> totem says it does not have the plugins, robt
[12:50] <|thunder> sup all, I have a mp3 player that is supposed to mount up just like a USB stick. these are the permissions "drwxr-xr-x  1 eric eric        8 2006-10-23 01:50 Untitled"  it says I dot have permission to write to it. But i am eric, wtf ?
[12:50] <Tsukaggin> So, nothing to my knowledge.
[12:50] <vanberge> can anyone tell me how to play rmvb files?  :-/   i thought vlc would do the trick
[12:50] <kitche> |thunder: chown won't work on devices you need to use umask instead
[12:50] <|thunder> van, real player maybe.
[12:51] <killown> vanberge get win32 codecs
[12:51] <|thunder> kitche; it was auto mounted. ill have a look at man umask, thanks
[12:51] <robtp> minerale: you followed the install instructions for libdvdcss2 for 6.10?
[12:51] <mnoir> Tsukaggin: are the windows at command prompt?
[12:51] <minerale> robtp: yeah the script ran
[12:51] <vanberge> killown, i have'em
[12:52] <minerale> robtp: it's a single line to execute
[12:52] <|thunder> kitche; there is no man entry for umask
[12:52] <robtp> minerale: yeah
[12:52] <kitche> |thunder: its part of mount
[12:52] <Yakaty> anyone any thoughts on how to get this installation working??
[12:52] <Tsukaggin> No. They are GUI windows, which is odd since a hackers results would be terminal, and I wouldn't be  able to see them on my end.
[12:52] <killown> vanberge its work with mplayer
[12:52] <AoA> I installed ubuntu and while installation it didnt ask me for root pass, so how to create root pass after installation ?
[12:52] <LjL> Ubotu, tell AoA about root | AoA, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:52] <magicfinger> ok just burning the iso now is ubuntu firewall easy to set up
[12:53] <killown> AoA sudo passwd
[12:53] <LjL> AoA: short answer: don't create one. use "sudo <command>" for root actions, or if you really need it, "sudo -i" for a root login
[12:53] <mnoir> Tsukaggin: hmm - strange...I do not have a clue and I cannot see them... :(
[12:53] <Yakaty> magicfinger: get firestarter and then yes
[12:53] <vanberge> killown, thats what im trying!
[12:53] <Tsukaggin> I'll take a screen cap of the windows the way I found them, and upload it.
[12:53] <vanberge> :-(
[12:53] <magicfinger> what is firestarter
[12:53] <Yakaty> magicfinger: "sudo apt-get install firestarter"
[12:53] <robtp> minerale: you also installed libdvdread3?
[12:54] <LjL> killown, the way AoA worded the question indicates s/he doesn't know how root works in Ubuntu, so a much better idea is providing the information about it
[12:54] <mnoir> !sudo | AoA
[12:54] <ubotu> AoA: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:54] <Yakaty> its an easy to use firewall program
[12:54] <slicky> hm, my mp3 player is strange.. i cant delete files from it.. Filesystem read only it says..  but the filesystem is fat32 i think
[12:54] <minerale> robtp: yep
[12:54] <mnoir> Tsukaggin: I am very curious to see the screencap
[12:54] <magicfinger> is it on the cd
[12:55] <Yakaty> magicfinger: I dont think so
[12:55] <magicfinger> ok ill google for it
[12:55] <AoA> mnoir but I WANT TO HAVE ROOT ALLWAYS, not just for sudo
[12:55] <Yakaty> lol AoA
[12:55] <mnoir> AoA: why
[12:55] <SurfnKid> whats a good mp3 editor in ubuntu
[12:55] <reiki> AoA, that's a good way to have problems
[12:56] <kitche> AoA: if you go that link for sudo it tells you how to do it
[12:56] <jpjacobs> SurfnKid, audacity
[12:56] <LjL> !caps | aoa
[12:56] <ubotu> aoa: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:56] <Music_Shuffle> SurfnKid, audacity
[12:56] <SurfnKid> jpiccolo, ah thanks
[12:56] <Music_Shuffle> :o
[12:56] <LjL> AoA: anyway, why?
[12:56] <|thunder> aoa, then do sudo passwd then enter YOUR passwd, the enter a new root pass.
[12:56] <ThePub> any good alternative to konqueror for strictly web browsing?
[12:56] <LjL> AoA: and by "always", do you mean for your *entire* X login? that's a *terrible* idea.
[12:56] <Music_Shuffle> FF.
[12:56] <Music_Shuffle> Epiphany
[12:56] <|thunder> lol
[12:56] <Tsukaggin> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/CyberSilver/Screenshot.png?t=1167350167
[12:56] <Yakaty> ThePub: firefox
[12:56] <Music_Shuffle> E-Links
[12:56] <Tsukaggin> the screencap.
[12:56] <AoA> ljl , kitche reiki |thunder  thanks I add root passwd
[12:56] <Music_Shuffle> Mozilla
[12:56] <Music_Shuffle> Seeing a pattern here? There are quite a few :P
[12:56] <jpjacobs> w3m ;)
[12:57] <slicky> wtf... 1970-01-01 01:00 usbdisk  <-- somethings not right :P
[12:57] <ThePub> Yakaty: that uses khtml.
[12:57] <reiki> LjL, by the way, I got all that UUID mess straightened out. What a pain in the rear end. :)
[12:57] <SurfnKid> Galeon
[12:57] <|thunder> aoa. you really dont need it. you can just do 'sudo bash' and have root bash without the need for a root pass
[12:57] <jpjacobs> flock
[12:57] <pengulord> wtf good anon sock5 is hard to find anymore
[12:57] <LjL> AoA: then when you hit some root-unlocking-related bug and/or get hacked into by someone, be sure you come here to complain
[12:57] <ThePub> SurfnKid: galeon uses gecko, same with flock
[12:57] <Music_Shuffle> !ohmy
[12:57] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:57] <Music_Shuffle> ;p
[12:57] <LjL> reiki: how?
[12:57] <mnoir> Tsukaggin: the bigger win looks like you were trying to open a file in some app and it was getting the particulars
[12:57] <Dimensions> hi can some one tell me ... i have a remote system with rsa i can ssh into the system remotely but when i try to scp and send a file it denies the access why is that what should i do to send the file ???
[12:57] <will> hey guys, I'm wondering if my KDE software (Kopete, Krita and AmaroK) will work on Ubuntu...?  I don't want to use Kubuntu but I want to get off SuSE since ubuntu is apparently the best thing since sliced bread.  Thanks, -will
[12:58] <SurfnKid> ThePub, english wwwhat you mean
[12:58] <magicfinger> does ubuntu have a built in internet browser
[12:58] <SurfnKid> :P
[12:58] <LjL> will, they'll work fine. they'll just install, well, most of the KDE libraries.
[12:58] <Nuvene> I windows on my linux box to dualboot... but now I cant get into my linux
[12:58] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[12:58] <will> magicfinger: Ofcourse.
[12:58] <slicky> whats the name of a usb device in /dev/ ?
[12:58] <ThePub> SurfnKid: eh?
[12:58] <Nuvene> I installed windows
[12:58] <Tsukaggin> so this is just a delayed response to an action I took?
[12:58] <jpjacobs> magicfinger, ubuntu installs firfox per default
[12:58] <jpjacobs> firefow*
[12:58] <reiki> LjL I found that by cloning I had 2 file systems with the exact same UUID.... cloning did it's job very well. I had to use uuidgen to make a new UUID and then tune2fs -U to assign that UUID to one of the duplicates
[12:58] <jpiccolo> surfnkid, what?
[12:58] <LjL> will: if you're mostly going to use KDE apps, it probably does make sense to use KDE.
[12:58] <magicfinger> ok thanks
[12:58] <jpjacobs> firefox* darn laptopkeyboard
[12:58] <mnoir> Tsukaggin: possible - were you impatient at something?
[12:59] <Dimensions> Nuvene .... u would need to boot it with a live ubuntu cd and goto command prompt to set it up ... and reinstall grub ...
[12:59] <SurfnKid> i was tring to figure out what gecko and flock were
[12:59] <LjL> reiki: yes, i follow you on that part... but you said /dev/by-uuid/whatever still gave them as duplicate
[12:59] <mnoir> Tsukaggin: oh and that guy on the wallpaper is ugly....
[12:59] <SilentDis> magicfinger, Ubuntu comes bundled with Firefox, as of right now.  There's pleanty others as well, available for free download from the repositories
[12:59] <daedra> Nuvene: there are some great tools to access 'hidden' partitions like gag46, smartbootfloppy
[12:59] <Music_Shuffle> Unless you dislike KDE, in which case most will work ok under Gnome, but I wouldn't push it or be really demanding.
[12:59] <alecjw> magicfinger: you might prefer epiphany though. it uses your gtk theme
[12:59] <minerale> I have installed everything, but I keep getting errors when trying to open the dvd something about /dev/dvd not read
[12:59] <Tsukaggin> No, the last thing I recall doing actually is closing a window in Firefox. And that's  Dirge, a varient Shovel Weilding Xombie. He kicks ass.
[12:59] <Yakaty> Ubuntu Edgy installation stops with "BusyBox    /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" -- looks like its not detecting my cdrom drive when it loads the linux kernel.... any ideas???
[12:59] <Tsukaggin> But yeah, I was just browsing a forum.
[01:00] <will> Music_Shuffle:  It's not that I "Dislike it", well, pretty much.  I like the color scheme and bar sizes etc of Gnome, but I like the software of KDE
[01:00] <LjL> Music_Shuffle: still, if you dislike KDE, i'm not sure there's much point in using KDE apps for most things...
[01:00] <reiki> LjL, blkid showed them as still duplicates, /dev/disk/by-uuid was correct. Had to remove the file /etc/blkid.tab and run blkid as sudo to make it rebuld the file
[01:00] <LjL> will, uhm, you can change the color scheme and bar sizes easily enough
[01:00] <daedra> Kubuntu rocks :)
[01:00] <mnoir> Tsukaggin: it looks like the back window is the parent - what is it?
[01:00] <jpiccolo> SurfnKid, did you need something?
[01:00] <will> LjL: Meeh, it just wouldn't be the same.  What I really want is Krita and Koffice to work
[01:00] <Music_Shuffle> LjL, true. Although are we counting doing like I do and having like 5 WM's installed and interplaying with apps? I use a few KDe apps under Gnome >.>
[01:01] <SurfnKid> jpiccolo, nah i was just wondering about gecko and flock and what they were but thats is ok i dont need to know :p
[01:01] <LjL> will, and eat twice of the RAM they should be eating? well, as long as it's ok with you
[01:01] <SurfnKid> at least not yet
[01:01] <SilentDis> I've personally been shuffling back and forth between gnome and KDE, to see the differences.  while there's a lot I do like in KDE, i'm just more comfortable with gnome *shrug*
[01:01] <reiki> LjL, do you know if , for example, the UUID of /dev/hda1 is stored on that file system somewhere?
[01:01] <will> LjL: I've had bad expieriences with Kubuntu so far.  It stops workign completly (I can't login) after I update my drivers and try to install my wacom tablet.  Never had any problems under Ubuntu or SuSE 10.2
[01:02] <Tsukaggin> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/CyberSilver/Screenshot-1.png?t=1167350511 See? It's empty.
[01:02] <jpiccolo> surfnkid, is this jared?
[01:02] <daedra> Since slackware moved to KDE I've followed it
[01:02] <SurfnKid> huh?
[01:02] <SurfnKid> jared?
[01:02] <vanberge> has anybody ever played a .rmvb file in ubuntu?  :-) if so please help..  thanks in advance
[01:02] <jpiccolo> nm then
[01:02] <LjL> Music_Shuffle, well, it depends on how you see things. if you just want to choose the *program you like best* for each job you need to do, you'll have a mixture of KDE and GNOME and whatever programs. and that's fine, if it fits your goal. but if you mostly like the KDE programs (or, conversely, mostly like the GNOME programs), you should be using the matching environment IMHO.
[01:02] <mnoir> Tsukaggin: frankly, i think you should blow away the bigger win and see what happens to the back one - it does not look dangerous - looks like a mouse slip....
[01:02] <SurfnKid> jp heh
[01:03] <Tsukaggin> uhh
[01:03] <Tsukaggin> odd
[01:03] <Tsukaggin> I closed it
[01:03] <Tsukaggin> and a new window came up
[01:03] <mnoir> Tsukaggin: yes??
[01:03] <|thunder> how would I find out what filesystem is on a flash drive ? "fdisk -l /dev/sda " returns "Disk /dev/sda doesn't contain a valid partition table". But I can read the files.
[01:03] <reiki> oooo... hockey game will be starting in a bit
[01:03] <Tsukaggin> saying Name Contains:                            ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;gbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbjuolhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000;
[01:03] <Music_Shuffle> LjL, good point.  Prolly makes it work better.
[01:03] <SilentDis> vanberge, i'm poking google now for that file...
[01:03] <LjL> Music_Shuffle: myself, i try to stick to programs made for my DE, even in cases when i think other programs are *better*. i can understand very well how others might find this point of view a bit extreme -- what i cannot quite understand is "99% of the apps i use are KDE, but i use GNOME"
[01:03] <magicfinger> so how do i install firestarter
[01:04] <Tsukaggin> It looks just like the smaller window, only that's in the name feild.
[01:04] <Music_Shuffle> sudo apt-get install firestarter
[01:04] <Music_Shuffle> ?
[01:04] <mnoir> Tsukaggin: garbage from some mouse slip i think
[01:04] <Gun_Smoke> amazing.
[01:04] <magicfinger> i dont understand
[01:04] <SilentDis> vanberge, looks like there's a thread on the ubuntu forums - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171548
[01:04] <LjL> Tsukaggin, no need to spam the channel like that...
[01:04] <LjL> !enter
[01:04] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:04] <Gun_Smoke> I have no idea why this computer is still connected to the net.
[01:04] <robtp> minerale: im not too sure then, try installing another program
[01:04] <Music_Shuffle> LjL, lol true. I prefer to minimize mixing, but Gnome's torrent client, for example, I'm not a fan of. kTorrent is yay. ^^
[01:04] <rambo3> gj on this one who ever made it : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=327001
[01:04] <Music_Shuffle> magicfinger, enter that into a terminal.
[01:04] <Gun_Smoke> I've unpluged my wireless adaper.
[01:05] <vanberge> SilentDis, tyvm.  :-)
[01:05] <magicfinger> terminal?
[01:05] <kcinna> anyone know which program to use to rip a dvd to an iso?
[01:05] <Gun_Smoke> There must be one in the box I didn't even know about.
[01:05] <Tsukaggin> If you say so. i'm pretty leary about security actually. My systems pretty tight. and this didn't look like anything i've seen before. For one I could SEE it, and you can't with most hacks.
[01:05] <SilentDis> vanberge, nt :)
[01:05] <Tsukaggin> so I'm a little paranoid.
[01:05] <Music_Shuffle> magicfinger, are you in Gnome?
[01:05] <Tsukaggin> But if you say it's nothing to worry about, i'll trust you.
[01:05] <Aggrav8d> how do i permanently alias a command?  i thought it was $ alias acronym "long version"
[01:05] <jpjacobs> kcinna, dd? or dvdisaster, or k3b or ...
[01:05] <magicfinger> im confused
[01:05] <LjL> Aggrav8d: put that into ~/.bashrc
[01:05] <SilentDis> kcinna, video DVD or data DVD?  i've not found a good recompressor program to make DVDs into ISOs (yet) but K3B will do data DVDs without issue.
[01:05] <mnoir> tsu - good - but this looks benign - file searching
[01:05] <magicfinger> ive never used linux before
[01:06] <Music_Shuffle> magicfinger, hit alt-f2, check the box labeled 'run in terminal' and then enter that prompt I gave you into the blank line of 'program to run'
[01:06] <Aggrav8d> LjL - well i try it from the command line and it tells me it doesn't recognize alias
[01:06] <kcinna> SilentDis:  video dvd
[01:06] <Tsukaggin> The files they searched is what scared me.
[01:06] <Tsukaggin> A restore point?
[01:06] <Tsukaggin> Tracking.log?
[01:06] <reiki> LjL, I posted the UUID adventure here: http://www.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=326871
[01:06] <Music_Shuffle> magicfinger, it will then open a terminal window and ask you for your password. Your password is your login password.
[01:06] <jpjacobs> SilentDis, doesn't matter: an iso is an exact image of the medium
[01:06] <LjL> Aggrav8d: it's     alias aliasname="your command"
[01:06] <Tsukaggin> the mount manager?
[01:06] <LjL> try it like that
[01:06] <reiki> going to watch hockey ... y'all have fun
[01:06] <Music_Shuffle> magicfinger, enter your password, hit enter, and it'll run.
[01:06] <Music_Shuffle> reiki, you too :D
[01:06] <LjL> thanks reiki
[01:06] <Tsukaggin> Pretty key files IIRC.
[01:07] <magicfinger> ok thanks
[01:07] <SilentDis> jpjacobs, very true, but most people, when they want an ISO, they also want to strip out all the CSS stuff (like me)
[01:07] <mnoir> Tsukaggin: i do not know how tightly you manage ff and java/javascript, etc
[01:07] <Music_Shuffle> magicfinger, Good luck. :)
[01:07] <jpjacobs> well he/she asked for an iso...
[01:07] <SilentDis> kcinna, you SHOULD be able to just use nautilus to do it.  right click the icon on your desktop, and choose create iso :)
[01:07] <LjL> well reiki, just a hasty comment from the first paragraph... not all "human beings" clone partitions ;)
[01:08] <magicfinger> can you send that command in pvt please copy and paste not working.  I need to write it down
[01:08] <mnoir> Tsukaggin: i would recommend purging all cache, get the NOSCRIPT plugin, disable cookies, etc
[01:08] <Dimensions> no one knows solution to my problem ?
[01:08] <Tsukaggin> I don't really. I'm not still pretty new to this kind of stuff. i've got hardware and software firewalls, password protection with high complexity passwords, and I only use mail adresses with 128 bit encryption.
[01:08] <Aggrav8d> LjL - thanks
[01:08] <kcinna> SilentDis: ah, got it, thanks
[01:08] <Tsukaggin> But beyond that
[01:08] <Tsukaggin> I'm stumbling in the dark so to speak.
[01:08] <Music_Shuffle> Tsukaggin, what do you deal in, nuclear secrets!?
[01:09] <cody_> Anyone here able to help me out with Eclipse? I have it installed but I am getting errors while it is starting up
[01:09] <Music_Shuffle> Dimensions, what was your issue?
[01:09] <magicfinger> whats the command again sudo apt-?
[01:09] <Dimensions> Music_Shuffle i can ssh into my remote pc with rsa setup but when i scp into it for sending a file it denies the access ...
[01:09] <mnoir> Tsukaggin: the only susupect vectors into an ubuntu system right now are all the browser related things
[01:09] <SilentDis> kcinna, that'll make an 'identical copy' of the data on the disk... as for removing CSS and such...  if you find something, please let me know!
[01:09] <Music_Shuffle> Ahh, never mucked about with SSH, sorry. :(
[01:10] <jpjacobs> Dimensions, maybe something in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config denies filetransfer?
[01:10] <Dimensions> :) no worries Music_Shuffle...
[01:10] <Music_Shuffle> mnoir, and physical access :P
[01:10] <mnoir> tsu - but i am with you on paranoia - i run a hardware double-natted firewall in front of my desktop
[01:10] <mnoir> Music_Shuffle: :)
[01:10] <Tsukaggin> Ahh. So it could be something coming through firefox? I'll purge my cookies and temp files then, and read up on browser security.
[01:10] <Music_Shuffle> Just browse safe.
[01:10] <Dimensions> jpjacobs from my side or remote pc setting ?
[01:10] <jpjacobs> Dimensions, sure the syntax is right? otherwise you could try by using sftp?
[01:10] <mnoir> tsu - maybe
[01:11] <jpjacobs> sshd_config is the configfile for the sshserver, so the remote one
[01:11] <mnoir> Tsukaggin: i am not convinced though - still looks like a mouse slip to me :)
[01:11] <Dimensions> yeah jpjacobs syntx  is sudo scp -pr filelocation remotepcIP:/location
[01:11] <interfear> 6.10 won't boot in safe graphics mode, looks grey and distorted, sound plays, i have heard others are having same prob.. any ideas? nvidia 6600gt pcie
[01:11] <interfear> 6.06 booted fine in safe graphics
[01:12] <levander> I'm a little worried about my system right now, and when I type gnome-system-monitor at the command line, it starts up okay, but it prints out this on the terminal: "** (gnome-system-monitor:29920): WARNING **: SELinux was found but is not enabled."  Anyone knows why SELinux is not enabled on my system?
[01:12] <jpjacobs> Dimensions, be sure that /location is writable to you.
[01:12] <Tsukaggin> Well, thanks for the help mnoir. I'll be back if anything else happens. Also, Music_Shuffle, you'll find a package from the CIA at your door in an hour, as a courtesy, I'm going to tell you not to open it. Nor question my nuclear secrets in the future.
[01:12] <Tsukaggin> =P
[01:12] <chris_Qnut> Anyone! Newbie question.  using ubuntu for webserver.  have ipcop setup with green(192.168.1.X)-Orange(10.10.10.x)-red(internet).  Webserver is on orange as 10.10.10.2.  Firewall is port forwarding 80 requests fine but cannot seem to get settings on server to get me out through the RED interface from ORANGE to do some updates.
[01:12] <magicfinger> do i need to be connected to the internet to get firstarter through the terminal
[01:12] <Music_Shuffle> Tsukaggin, XD
[01:12] <mnoir> Tsukaggin: :)
[01:12] <Music_Shuffle> magicfinger, yes. You need to be connected to get it from anywhere...
[01:12] <Music_Shuffle> Unless you have it on a disk.
[01:12] <Tsukaggin> buh bye now. =P
[01:12] <magicfinger> ok cheers
[01:12] <mnoir> bb
[01:13] <Music_Shuffle> interfear, the card isn't the issue I don't think >.>
[01:13] <ruth> hi, also have a newbie question
[01:13] <Music_Shuffle> No question is too newbie, I assure you.
[01:13] <magicfinger> is the terminal like telnet
[01:13] <Dimensions> jpjacobs i donno but it says ssh_exchange_identification: read:connection reset by peer
[01:13] <ruth> i have downloaded Nicotine but having a few probs
[01:13] <Music_Shuffle> The terminal is like...the terminal...
[01:13] <Music_Shuffle> !terminal
[01:13] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:13] <LameBMX> magicfinger, like telnet + cmd prompt
[01:14] <jpjacobs> Dimensions, then i don't know.  never encountered this problem
[01:14] <magicfinger> thanks ill go try and install it now
[01:14] <magicfinger> thanks all
[01:15] <ruth> am on  nicotine settings  and when i click apply nothing happens
[01:16] <chris_Qnut> Anyone! Newbie question.  using ubuntu for webserver.  have ipcop setup with green(192.168.1.X)-Orange(10.10.10.x)-red(internet).  Webserver is on orange as 10.10.10.2.  Firewall is port forwarding 80 requests fine but cannot seem to get settings on server to get me out through the RED interface from ORANGE to do some updates.
[01:16] <Music_Shuffle> ruth, does anything happen/change if you click...ok? ;o
[01:17] <j0sh0> hi, could someone please let me know why I have trouble accessing the net thru my ethernet ADSL router in the gui (6.06) but I can ping URLs and can obviously connect here????
[01:17] <ruth> nope, nothing happens when i click 'ok'
[01:17] <kitche> j0sh0: it's probably due to ipv6 if you don't use it which not many do right now
[01:17] <kitche> !ipv6|j0sh0
[01:17] <ubotu> j0sh0: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:18] <mzhang> any mem-speed benchmark application available?
[01:18] <vanberge> ok... looks like realplayer is the way to go.  sweet.  Now, before i install this, can anyone tell me if it is easy/a pain to get rid of?  i've had bad experiences with realplayer
[01:18] <j0sh0> thanks guys i'll have a look!!!
[01:20] <vanberge> j0sh0, that is the problem.  i had the same
[01:20] <vanberge> j0sh0, i was frustrated for a very long time!  :-)
[01:21] <magicfinger> hello the disk i just burnt will not boot up during start up
[01:21] <j0sh0> vanberge: haha i'm pulling my hair out!!! how do I disable it? I can't bloody get to the wiki or support to find out how!
[01:21] <christiane_> Hello. I'm trying to encode an xvid video using dvd::rip on Edgy. I copied the vob files successfully but when I hit "transcode" nothing happens. Which packet could be missing?
[01:22] <magicfinger> anbody know how to make the cd start during start up
[01:23] <AnRkey> hi all
[01:23] <magicfinger> hi
[01:23] <daedra> !dvd
[01:23] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:23] <neurotech> I'm considering upgrading my install of Dapper to Edgy using the "$ gksu "update-manager -c"" method - is it worth the risk?
[01:23] <martin__> how do i get java5?
[01:23] <daedra> !rip
[01:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:23] <daedra> !dvdrip
[01:23] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.1-0.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 2084 kB
[01:23] <dabaR> neurotech: what do you intend to obtain by upgrading?
[01:23] <AnRkey> does any1 here know of a good howto for ltsp on ubuntu? I want to set up a server for testing here...
[01:23] <dabaR> !java > martin__
[01:24] <martin__> !java
[01:24] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:24] <martin__> ty =)
[01:24] <shoaib> hi all......i am not able to install "build essential".....can anybody help me in that
[01:24] <kitche> martin__: you should have gotten a pm from ubotu also about it
[01:24] <neurotech> dabaR: I just want my OS to be up to date
[01:24] <LjL> shoaib: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[01:24] <magicfinger> please help, how do i install please
[01:24] <AnRkey> or just use automatix to install all your java stuff for you...
[01:24] <christiane_> daedra: dvdrip is installed ;-)
[01:24] <reiatzu> magicfinger: LOL
[01:24] <shoaib> LjL....it says cannot find package build essential
[01:24] <vanberge>        gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/bad_list
[01:24] <vanberge>    2.
[01:24] <vanberge>       Add this line:  alias net-pf-10 off
[01:24] <vanberge>    3.
[01:24] <vanberge>       Save the file and restart your computer
[01:25] <kitche> shoaib: build-essential not build essential
[01:25] <martin__> !Multiverse repository
[01:25] <LjL> !automatix | AnRkey
[01:25] <ubotu> AnRkey: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:25] <dabaR> AnRkey: try this http://edubuntu.org/GettingStarted
[01:25] <LjL> Ubotu, tell martin__ about multiverse | martin__, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:25] <shoaib> yes i tried build-essential also
[01:25] <LjL> !elaborate | shoaib
[01:25] <ubotu> shoaib: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[01:25] <reiatzu> one of my best friends is called cheyenne, CheyenneD
[01:26] <LjL> reiatzu: ?
[01:26] <vanberge> sorry guys.  i tried to pm that to j0sh0
[01:26] <magicfinger> so how do i install ubuntu
[01:26] <reiatzu> LjL: nevermind
[01:26] <reiatzu> magicfinger: you download the iso
[01:26] <vanberge> j0sh0, did you get any of what i pasted?
[01:26] <reiatzu> then you follow the instructions
[01:26] <dabaR> neurotech: use sudo aptitude update&&sudo aptitude dist-upgrade to be up to date. If everything works, and you are afraid, there is no need to upgrade.
[01:26] <CheyenneD> How do I install .deb packages?
[01:26] <magicfinger> i have done that and burned it to disk
[01:26] <AnRkey> dabaR: thanks
[01:26] <dabaR> !install > magicfinger
[01:26] <j0sh0> vanberge: nope sorry mate, please pm again!
[01:27] <LjL> Ubotu, tell CheyenneD about software | CheyenneD, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:27] <shoaib> i have to install gcc......for that I think that build-essential has to be installed first.......when i type "sudo apt-get install build-essential" it says that E:Could not find package build-essential
[01:27] <LjL> shoaib: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:27] <magicfinger> how can i install if the disk will not load during start up
[01:27] <dabaR> shoaib: and show output of aptitude search build-essential while you are at it.
[01:27] <dabaR> magicfinger: is it a PC or a Mac?
[01:28] <magicfinger> PC
[01:28] <shoaib> ok wait
[01:28] <dabaR> magicfinger: and are you sure you have boot from CD enabled in BIOS?
[01:28] <christiane_> Any idea why transcoding from dvdrip doesn't start? There's no log output ...
[01:28] <magicfinger> yes
[01:28] <magicfinger> coz windows cd auto loads during start up
[01:28] <kitche> magicfinger: how did you burn the cd? since you are suppose ot burn as an image and not as a data
[01:28] <dabaR> magicfinger: and do you run windows right now?
[01:28] <magicfinger> i burned using nero
[01:29] <magicfinger> yes xp
[01:29] <dabaR> magicfinger: put in the CD now, and see whether you get a program auto-loaded
[01:29] <kitche> magicfinger: did you go to file open then select the .iso file?
[01:29] <dabaR> kitche: I think he can find that out by inserting the CD now.
[01:29] <magicfinger> yes its auto loading
[01:30] <dabaR> magicfinger: then there is no reason for it not to load at boot up, afaict.
[01:30] <shoaib> LjL....sources.list is commented...there are lots of lines but all are commented...and when I type "aptitude search build-essential", nothing happens and I get the prompt again
[01:30] <dabaR> magicfinger: you say you tried the iwndows install cd, and it loaded?
[01:30] <magicfinger> yes
[01:30] <dabaR> shoaib: uncomment the deb line for main.
[01:30] <LjL> shoaib: then you need to uncomment (some of) the lines.
[01:31] <LjL> Ubotu, tell shoiab about repos | shoiab, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:31] <vanberge> j0sh0, did you get my pms?
[01:31] <LjL> shoaib: for what the various lines give you, see the link by the bot. but for build-essential you just need main
[01:31] <shoaib> ok
[01:32] <magicbronson_> just plugged in a usb wireless adapter to my ubuntu machine. according to ifconfig, wlan0 is pulling an IP from my wireless router. anyone have any idea why /proc/net/wireless says my link quality is 0 and i have no internet? i'm right next to the router.
[01:33] <dabaR> magicbronson_: can you ping the router?
[01:33] <magicbronson_> yes
[01:33] <dabaR> magicbronson_: can you ping, for example, 164.109.28.3?
[01:33] <AnRkey> dabaR: thanks, for the link. I was wondering about doing ltsp on the ubuntu desktop or server and not edubuntu. It looks like edubuntu does everything for you. Do you know of any howtos for the normal ubuntu?
[01:34] <dabaR> AnRkey: not any you could not find on google.
[01:34] <Alt_F4> anyone here use proftp?
[01:34] <magicbronson_> dabaR: well, this might not be the best form of diagnostic... the machine is also connected to the router via ethernet cable
[01:34] <darius_> heh
[01:34] <AnRkey> dabaR: which one do you use?
[01:35] <magicbronson_> dabaR: the machine is also 40 miles away.
[01:35] <darius_> magicbronson: install tcpdump and watch for inbound traffic on the interface
[01:35] <Alt_F4> does anyone here use proftp (again)
[01:35] <darius_> magicbronson_: iwconfig reports 0 quality?
[01:35] <dabaR> magicbronson_: well, then I am not sure what to tell you. Try disabling the wired interface, and go from there:-/
[01:35] <shoaib> LjL..who is ubotu??...i think its an automated messenger sort of a thing...how do i uncomment sources.list??....which lines to comment...??
[01:36] <Valmarko> Is there a way of testing the 'real speed' of my conexion ?
[01:36] <lightup> hi guys, I'm trying to mount a windows hard drive to salvage some files for a friend but I'm getting a bit stuck, is there a specific way to do this besides mount?
[01:36] <LjL> Ubotu, tell shoaib about bot | shoaib, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:36] <kitche> !ntfs|lightup
[01:36] <ubotu> lightup: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[01:36] <Music_Shuffle> LjL's so skilled at answering hundreds of questions with nothing but ubotu at his side :P
[01:36] <magicbronson_> darius_: iwconfig doesn't say anything about quality, but says i'm connected to the right essid
[01:36] <dabaR> Valmarko: due to the nature of how the Internet works, no, there is no way of testing the "real speed" of your Internet connection.
[01:36] <LjL> shoaib, if you pastebin it, i'll be able to tell which lines to uncomment... otherwise, anyway, you want to enable "main" for "edgy", "edgy-updates" and "edgy-security" (or the equivalent for dapper if you're using that)
[01:36] <darius_> magicbronson_: btw - wireless usb support is very hit & miss with Linux
[01:37] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Music_Shuffle about sarcasm | Music_Shuffle, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:37] <magicbronson_> darius_: i noticed
[01:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sarcasm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:37] <cody_> Anyone around able to Help me with Eclipse. I have it isntalled but I am having problems getting it to run. I get errors on startup
[01:37] <lightup> ubotu: thanks I'll go look
[01:37] <Music_Shuffle> Hahaha
[01:37] <Valmarko> dabaR, tanks
[01:37] <dabaR> Valmarko: if you connect to my computer to download something, the real speed of your connection == the upload speed of my connection. Same for any other connection.
[01:38] <magicbronson_> dabaR: if the ethernet cable is unplugged i can't ping out over wlan0
[01:38] <dabaR> magicbronson_: can you ping the router?
[01:38] <magicbronson_> dabaR: yes
[01:38] <Valmarko> dabaR, I understand now. It depends greatly from the server that sends the files
[01:38] <dabaR> magicbronson_: what does iwconfig tell you?
[01:39] <dabaR> Valmarko: yes, that is the bottleneck mostly, not your connection to the ISP. You can test the max bandwidth sent by the ISP
[01:39] <magicbronson_> dabaR: http://pastebin.ca/295005
[01:39] <MTecknology> I'm trying to install a command line system... when i get to the install it asks for a language but i have no keyboard
[01:39] <Ha1> You have no keyboard?
[01:40] <dabaR> allowed by the ISP by using bittorrent or gtk-gnutella to download a common file(that way many users will send you bits of the file, and you will likely max out your download bandwidth.
[01:40] <MTecknology> Hal, but i did use it to choose the install
[01:40] <magicbronson_> dabaR: note "Link Quality=0/0"
[01:40] <FunnyLookinHat> What good is a computer without a keyboard?
[01:40] <Dimensions> jpjacobs i have checked that setting but there is no such setting regarding file transfer in sshd_config file .... i get message permission denied publickey lost connection ...
[01:40] <darius_> magicbronson_: Does ifconfig show that you've received any packets?
[01:40] <Music_Shuffle> FunnyLookinHat, a server?
[01:40] <Ha1> Agreed with funnylooking
[01:40] <MTecknology> Hal, it's a PS2 mouse and i'm using 6.10
[01:40] <dabaR> magicbronson_: so it has no encryption on it, hey?
[01:40] <cody_> Eclipse help anyone?
[01:41] <FunnyLookinHat> Music_Shuffle, right...  but why remove the keyboard before you are done installing I mean, lol
[01:41] <dabaR> cody_: what exactly?
[01:41] <MTecknology> anybody know how to make the install recognise my PS2 mouse?
[01:41] <Music_Shuffle> FunnyLookinHat, Rofl.  Right.  Didn't catch that part :P
[01:41] <LameBMX> anyone recomment a nice gui'd back-up program
[01:41] <FunnyLookinHat> Music_Shuffle, w00t   ; )
[01:41] <cody_> I have it installed but It is throwing an error when I try to start it
[01:41] <Valmarko> dabaR, tnks very much :)
[01:41] <LameBMX> recccommend even
[01:41] <cody_> java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: memmove
[01:41] <LameBMX> gah
[01:41] <kitche> MTecknology: it should already reconize it but what installer you using?
[01:41] <Music_Shuffle> ^_^
[01:41] <dabaR> !backup > LameBMX
[01:41] <Music_Shuffle> Try again LameBMX ! Almost! :D
[01:41] <dabaR> LameBMX: just in case you did not read that...
[01:41] <magicbronson_> darius_: yes, thousands of RX and TX packets received with 0 dropped
[01:41] <MTecknology> kitche, Ubuntu Server 6.10 Text Install
[01:42] <magicbronson_> dabaR: no, no encryption
[01:42] <kitche> cody_: what does the errors say
[01:42] <kitche> MTecknology: the mouse won't work in that install version cd anyways
[01:42] <Euphidime> Hey everyone, still having problems fixing my MBR. I found an ISO of the WinXP recovery console, but I can't write the image to a CD because I'm on the Ubuntu Live CD. The live CD is really my only option for internet access at the moment, so is there a way I can write the image to a blank cd while still using Ubuntu? (I only have one CD drive.)
[01:42] <MTecknology> kitche, I can select the install option, but i lose keyboard after that
[01:42] <dabaR> cody_: please tell me more, and paste the exact output of all errors to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:42] <darius_> magicbronson_: you see the AP in 'iwlist wlan0 scanning' ?
[01:42] <LameBMX> lol
[01:42] <MTecknology> kitche, the keyboard is PS2
[01:42] <Music_Shuffle> Euphidime, not unless you install Ubuntu and then do it....or get another drive.
[01:43] <kcinna> how long does it usually take to create a dvd iso?
[01:43] <kitche> kcinna: a while
[01:43] <chrisg0619> Hey, I just upgraded a bunch of stuff on Ubuntu 6.10; I also uninstalled Evolution and OpenOffice.org and had to reinstall some GNOME preference packages.  Now X won't load completely--all I see is the default background and nothing else.  Not even Ctrl+Alt+Del works, only the power button.  What's going on?
[01:43] <magicbronson_> darius_: yes
[01:43] <dabaR> kcinna: to create it?
[01:43] <cody_> dabaR, how do I paste it there?
[01:43] <Euphidime> Music_Shuffle: Neither of those are really an option :/
[01:43] <kcinna> i'm ripping an iso from a dvd
[01:43] <MTecknology> kitche, sorry, i meant i lose my keyboard
[01:43] <kcinna> it started fast, but not its going really slow at 50%
[01:43] <kcinna> like 1 mb every 3 seconds
[01:43] <kitche> MTecknology: hmm that is odd
[01:43] <dabaR> cody_: it is self-explanatory, I believe. Click http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to see.
[01:44] <Euphidime> I'd have to resize my NTFS partition in order to Install Ubuntu, and from previous experiences, I couldn't resize my NTFS partition before I defragment it.
[01:44] <MTecknology> kitche, any ideas?
[01:44] <darius_> magicbronson_: you said that your getting an IP leased?
[01:44] <adamh> When somebody tries brute-force to log in to my computer over SSH, they don't get in... but every attempt (i.e., every second) there's an annoying murmer from my machine as the hard drive clicks (I suppose for the log entry). I just want to make the noise go away; blocking the attacker would be a nice side-effect as long as I am absolutely 100% sure I don't block *myself* out. What's a good solution to this problem?
[01:44] <dabaR> chrisg0619: do you mean that your GDM does not load properly, or what exactly?
[01:44] <magicbronson_> darius_: yes
[01:44] <cody_> dabaR, thanks, I never used that before.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39250/
[01:44] <Music_Shuffle> Euphidime, you can resize without defragging.
[01:44] <darius_> magicbronson: what was the problem again? :)
[01:45] <gaten> chrisg0619:  get into the console w/ ctrl+alt+f1 and put in: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:45] <chrisg0619> dabaR: yeah, GNOME doesn't completely load; I don't even see the ubuntu thing telling me what services are loading
[01:45] <dabaR> adamh: do they have a common IP address they use?
[01:45] <magicbronson_> darius_: if i unplug the ethernet cable, i have no internet over wlan0
[01:45] <chrisg0619> gaten: I already did that to no avail
[01:45] <magicbronson_> darius_: iwconfig reports link quality of 0
[01:45] <kitche> MTecknology: not really since it seems to be part of the installer problem but you sure you lose it you can't press the up or down arrows and it won't move?
[01:45] <adamh> dabaR: uh, yes, the one that's been annoying me lately has.
[01:45] <Lathiat> adamh: i use this: http://bur.st/~lathiat/block_freq_connect --- it blocks anyone that tries to connect to SSH more than 10 times in 60 seconds for a little while
[01:46] <Euphidime> Magic_Shuffle: Do you know of a way I can reinstall GRUB without installing Ubuntu?
[01:46] <MTecknology> kitche, it won't move and i also can't change the lights, such as caps and num lock
[01:46] <dabaR> adamh: ban them from connecting to your computer. man iptables will tell you how.
[01:46] <Lathiat> adamh: other alternative is to change your ssh port
[01:46] <gaten> chrisg0619:  don't autodetect your video hardware, but choose "vesa". that will get your X back. hopefully
[01:46] <darius_> magicbronson_: it looks like a problem above layer 2.  I highly recommend you use tcpdump
[01:46] <Music_Shuffle> Music* btw. ;P
[01:46] <adamh> Lathiat: "for a little while?" Loos like it blocks it forever...
[01:46] <Music_Shuffle> !GRUB
[01:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:46] <Music_Shuffle> Euphidime, that should help.
[01:46] <chrisg0619> gaten: I chose "vesa," and nothing happened.  It's not like nothing would load; I did see the background and everything.
[01:46] <Ha1> Yeah, I had a similar problem and vesa worked for me
[01:47] <dabaR> cody_: this happens when you run eclipse?
[01:47] <Lathiat> adamh: not sure what the defautl time is but it epxires after a bit, per IP
[01:47] <cody_> dabaR, when I start eclipse
[01:47] <Euphidime> 4. Type "find /boot/grub/stage1".
[01:47] <adamh> Lathiat: That sounds perfect. Thank you :)
[01:47] <Euphidime> When I do that, grub says the file couldn't be found
[01:47] <dabaR> cody_: and your java is a 64 bit one?
[01:47] <gaten> chrisg0619:  ok, so the login screen just wouldnt come up?
[01:47] <dabaR> cody_: and your system is a 64 bit one?
[01:48] <chrisg0619> gaten: actually, the login screen does come up.  Sorry for omitting that detail--I get to log in, then nothing happens after that.
[01:48] <cody_> dabaR, system is definately 64 bit, I can double check my java is
[01:48] <Lathiat> adamh: hrm actually i cant see any references to the time, maybe it is permanant, give it a try
[01:48] <Lathiat> adamh: but i've accidentlly set it off before and just waited a bit
[01:48] <darius_> magicbronson_: did you say that you can/cannot ping the gateway while your ethernet cable is pulled?
[01:48] <magicbronson_> darius_: i'm running tcpdump now... what should i look for?
[01:48] <gaten> chrisg0619:  oh ok, so it just hangs after you login eh. did you check the X log for any errors?
[01:48] <magicbronson_> darius_: i can
[01:48] <darius_> magicbronson_: first confirm that you're receiving any packets
[01:48] <MTecknology> kitche, you know of any boot param for the install that will recheck PS2 components?
[01:49] <Lathiat> adamh: ah, its 60 seconds
[01:49] <chrisg0619> gaten: how would i get to the X log from the terminal?  I'm not quite sure how to do that--at any rate, no, I didn't check the log.
[01:49] <MTecknology> kitche, there are errors that show up but the are too quick for me to copy
[01:49] <adamh> Lathiat: Okay. Well, I can't think of a situation in which I'd miss 10 times in 60 seconds (and if I did, I have other computers I could connect from), so this should be all right.
[01:49] <darius_> magicbronson_: try pinging the gateway while you have tcpdump running
[01:49] <Lathiat> adamh: you need to miss 10 in 60 seconds, and then it blocks you for 60 seconds
[01:49] <darius_> magicbronson_: I assume you see a response
[01:50] <magicbronson_> yeah, it's flooding my term
[01:50] <gaten> chrisg0619:  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:50] <magicbronson_> darius_: (i'm ssh'd in)
[01:50] <chrisg0619> gaten: thanks; I'll be back in a few
[01:50] <cypruser> How do I get out of the Info screen in the Terminal?
[01:50] <gaten> chrisg0619:  sure thing
[01:50] <darius_> magicbronson_: ok, so it sounds like layer2 is solid
[01:50] <dabaR> cypruser: hit q, or ZZ
[01:51] <Euphidime> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[01:51] <chris_Qnut> Anyone! Newbie question.  using ubuntu for webserver.  have ipcop setup with green(192.168.1.X)-Orange(10.10.10.x)-red(internet).  Webserver is on orange as 10.10.10.2.  Firewall is port forwarding 80 requests fine but cannot seem to get settings on server to get me out through the RED interface from ORANGE to do some updates.
[01:51] <cypruser> dabaR: Thanks.
[01:51] <lightup> Can Linux mount a partition of type "extended"? (I'm not fully sure what this means, all the other partitions on the drive are FAT32)
[01:51] <adamh> lightup: "extended" means you can put more partitions in there.
[01:51] <magicbronson_> darius_: cool, any idea what to try next?
[01:51] <darius_> magicbronson_: Have you verified that the router is able to forward packets?  (is it the same router that you were plugged into by ethernet wire)?
[01:51] <lightup> adamh: so theres nothing in it?
[01:51] <adamh> lightup: The reason being, regular ("primary") partitions are limited to 4 per drive. If you want more than 4, you have to put an "extended" partition and put them in there.
[01:52] <darius_> magicbronson_: netstat -rn .. could you post that to pastebin
[01:52] <gaten> chris_Qnut:  updates with what? apt-get?
[01:52] <un_operateur> chris_Qnut, what do the colours red, orange and green signify? and are you sure this is a question you should be asking in #ubuntu?
[01:52] <Ha1> I have extended partitons up the aproverbial on my 400GB machine
[01:52] <dabaR> cody_: how did you install eclipse?
[01:52] <lightup> adamh: so how do I mount it?  I get a message saying "special device does not exist"
[01:52] <adamh> lightup: Well, there may be. Check the start and end blocks -- if your extended partition is /dev/hda5, then you probably have /dev/hda6 to /dev/hda99 (however many you have) in that extended partition.
[01:52] <magicbronson_> darius_: http://pastebin.ca/295018
[01:53] <lightup> adamh: no its hdb3, but its the biggest partition there
[01:53] <cody_> dabaR, i used synaptic and I tried downloading straight from eclipse.org
[01:53] <adamh> lightup: Do you have an hdb4?
[01:53] <lightup> adamh: yeah
[01:53] <dabaR> cody_: so you have the eclipse-jdt package installed?
[01:53] <darius_> magicbronson_: it looks like your wired ethernet route is not being torn down
[01:53] <adamh> lightup: Whoops, wrong question ;). Do you have an hdb5?
[01:53] <darius_> magicbronson_: how did you disable the wired ethernet port?
[01:54] <cody_> dabaR, that is installed
[01:54] <AnRkey> what is the dif between gksudo and sudo?
[01:54] <lightup> adamh: yeah, there was very little in it.  Not what I was looking for anyway!
[01:54] <j0sh0> hi thanks so much for helping me with the IPv6 problem its working perfectly now! The last issue I'm having is with my wireless. I've set up the card properly with ifconfig, iwconfig, wpa_supplicant. I've used wpa_cli to check the connection and all seems fine (WEP connected), except I cant ping the router? The lights on the wireless card act like it's connected properly (like they did for win xp), and I'm sure I'm using the correct driver (madwifi). There must
[01:54] <dabaR> cody_: and you just run eclipse in a terminal?
[01:54] <adamh> lightup: Try "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb" and check the start and end blocks. /dev/hdb5 will probably start at the same block as /dev/hdb3, right?
[01:54] <chris_Qnut> question is probably a general linux question.  am using ubuntu LAMP server install.   RED-GREEN-ORANGE are the interfaces on the firewall the webserver sits behind.
[01:54] <magicbronson_> darius_: i didn't. if i were to bring it down, i'd lose my ssh connection to the machine
[01:55] <cody_> dabaR, i tried a terminal and through the menu link
[01:55] <dabaR> AnRkey: gksudo is better to use with gui programs than sudo, and vice versa.
[01:55] <darius_> magicbronson_: so how do you know that your wireless link isn't working?
[01:55] <adamh> lightup: Oh, you're looking for specific files that you've lost?
[01:55] <magicbronson_> darius_:  because i had someone near the machine unplug the ethernet cable and try to go to a web site
[01:55] <AnRkey> k thanks
[01:56] <un_operateur> AnRkey, gksu/gksudo setup the proper environment for gnome  to be run in a super-user context
[01:56] <ehmn> Hey, how I install kernel 2.6.18 in my Ubuntu 6.10 with Gnome?
[01:56] <magicbronson_> darius_: also, *the link quality is 0*
[01:56] <AnRkey> dabaR: so it's sudo for gnome...
[01:56] <ehmn> I have 2.6.17-10-generic now
[01:56] <un_operateur> AnRkey, the other way around ..
[01:56] <kitche> AnRkey: sudo is for command line programs
[01:56] <lightup> adam: ahh, sorry I'd been reading the hda bit.  I have hdb1 in FAT16, hdb2 in extended and hdb5 in FAT32.  hdb2 is the big one and I assume what I want
[01:56] <un_operateur> AnRkey, gk* from gnome
[01:57] <AnRkey> i c, thanks
[01:57] <adamh> lightup: No, it's just a "container" of sorts.
[01:57] <darius_> magicbronson_: the link quality is just what's believed to be reported.  You either have layer 2 or you do not.  Per your tcpdump, you appear to have layer 2.  Did you specify an interface when running tcpdump?
[01:57] <adamh> lightup: hdb5 is *within* hdb2.
[01:57] <adamh> lightup: And if you were to create more partitions, they would be hdb6, hdb7, etc... and they would also be *within* hdb2.
[01:57] <magicbronson_> darius_: no! i should have
[01:58] <lightup> adamh: ok that's all good.  but hdb2 is a fair bit larger than hdb5 so could there be more inside it?
[01:58] <darius_> magicbronson_: please try that again.
[01:58] <magicbronson_> darius_: "tcpdump -i wlan0" is outputting a lot
[01:58] <adamh> lightup: Yes, you'd have to add more partitions or resize hdb5.
[01:58] <lightup> adamh: shall i try mounting 6 and up?
[01:58] <dabaR> cody_: as a wild guess...try installing libswt3.1-gtk-java
[01:58] <Euphidime> What's the best file system to use for a boot partition
[01:58] <adamh> lightup: Oh, they don't exist.
[01:58] <Euphidime> I'm just putting grub on it
[01:58] <j0sh0> could someone please tell me what " RX invalid nwid" means in output from iwconfig???
[01:58] <exs> Anyone running windows under vmware in ubuntu with network (internet) support?.. I'm currently trying to use the NAT method but it's not working.
[01:58] <darius_> magicbronson_: could you PM me a sample?
[01:59] <adamh> lightup: It *could* be that the partitions were deleted (or the drive was corrupted), in which case if you can correctly create the partitions as they were (exactly) before, you can mount them.
[01:59] <un_operateur> darius_, just out of curiosity -- are both interfaces assigned IP addresses in the same subnet?
[01:59] <darius_> un_operateur: yes
[01:59] <cody_> dabaR, any guesses are worth trying
[01:59] <darius_> un_operateur looks that way from the tcpdump
[01:59] <darius_> er
[01:59] <darius_> netstat
[01:59] <cypruser> In the Synaptic Package Manager, what's the difference between marking a package for removal and marking it for complete removal?
[01:59] <chrisg0619> gaten: I see "Error opening /dev/wacom: Invalid argument" and messages like that for about a page.  Then, later on, I see "Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF," "/OTF," "/CID."  Then, "Synaptics DeviceOff called."  That's the (END) of the log.
[01:59] <adamh> lightup: (without formatting, which would erase the data from disk)
[01:59] <cody_> dabaR, i installed that but it uninstalled eclipse in the process
[01:59] <darius_> un_operateur: which makes it extra hard :)
[01:59] <dabaR> cypruser: it removes its config files as well.
[01:59] <dabaR> cody_: for real?
[02:00] <cody_> ya
[02:00] <lightup> adamh: how would I go about doing that?  As I'm sure you can tell I'm fairly new, I've been on Linux about a year and I'm trying to salvage some files for a friend that he can't replace
[02:00] <un_operateur> darius_, that anomalous setup is contributing to the problem
[02:00] <magicbronson_> darius_: how's that look?
[02:00] <darius_> un_operateur: I do it at home all the time though
[02:00] <Music_Shuffle> Pssh.  'New' doesn't mean much after a while, you can learn as much as you want to ^_^
[02:00] <adamh> lightup: Hrm. A good idea would be to do a Google search. You're looking for a bootable CD which runs Linux and is made for this type of thing.
[02:00] <darius_> magicbronson_: are you sure this is wlan0?
[02:00] <gaten> chrisg0619:  ok, ignore the wacom stuff. that font stuff might be the problem.
[02:01] <chrisg0619> gaten: Hmm...any possible fixes?
[02:01] <darius_> magicbronson_: it seems like that ssh session should be over the wired link right now
[02:01] <un_operateur> darius_, I know, it's acceptable but not good practice tho -- because you always confuse the kernel with strange routing table entries
[02:01] <magicbronson_> darius_: that's what i got with "tcpdump -i wlan0"
[02:01] <magicbronson_> darius_: why do you think it seems like that?
[02:01] <lightup> I take it I can't just do it with a live cd?
[02:01] <adamh> lightup: This type of bootable-CD-only Linux distro will contain a program which finds deleted partitions (and deleted files on FAT32 drives too, probably) -- and it'll help you recover them
[02:01] <LjL> adamh: what, restoring partitions? the ubuntu CD should do, gpart is probably a program worth trying on it
[02:01] <reiatzu> i'm trying to download the C manual pages on ubuntu
[02:01] <dabaR> cody_: show me that output on a pastebin, please.
[02:01] <gaten> chrisg0619:  sry, i really dont know on ubuntu. if this had happened on my slack box, i would reinstall the xfont server, but i dont know if ubuntu even uses that
[02:01] <LjL> reiatzu: manpages-dev
[02:01] <adamh> LjL: Oh, really? Didn't know that. I always went for custom distros
[02:02] <reiatzu> nice
[02:02] <darius_> magicbronson_: well, you're saying that routing isn't working over the wireless link .. so why is your ssh session successful
[02:02] <lightup> adamh: Ok I'll hunt around.  Thanks for all your help.
[02:02] <reiatzu> thanks
[02:02] <cody_> dabaR, which output are you looking for?
[02:02] <adamh> lightup: np. Good luck :)
[02:02] <chrisg0619> gaten: should i just reinstall ubuntu?
[02:02] <darius_> un_operateur: I understand.  He's in a remote situation however
[02:02] <adamh> lightup: Remind your friend to make more frequent backups in the future :).
[02:02] <magicbronson_> darius_: because it's plugged in to the router via ethernet cable too!
[02:02] <LjL> adamh: well, the custom distros will probably have that sort of software shipped on the CD, but then you can easily install new software on the ubuntu CD as well. there's probably some MS-DOS based disks/CDs that could be tried as well, if the Linux-based solutions fail
[02:02] <reiatzu> brb
[02:03] <lightup> adamh: will do
[02:03] <darius_> magicbronson_: right, but is you ssh session over wired ethernet or the 802.11 link?
[02:03] <gaten> chrisg0619:  i wouldn't jump to that conclusion yet. ask soem ppl on here more advanced w/ ubuntu than myself. also, just reinstalling x might be better than wiping the while system,
[02:03] <darius_> magicbronson_: or switch between both (I don't know what the correct behaviour is in linux).
[02:03] <chrisg0619> gaten: how would I do that?  in case you haven't noticed, I'm a bit new to all these things...
[02:03] <un_operateur> magicbronson_, is there a reason why you should have both connected, wired and wireless, why not use either/or?
[02:03] <adamh> LjL: yeah. The last time I did this sort of thing I used a distro custom-made for the job. It's great, you boot up quickly and it says, "type XXXXX to find deleted partitions; type YYYYY to find deleted files; etc".
[02:03] <Ha1> Alrighty. I need to get a plugin for gaim that a friend wrote for me, called hal-plugin.pl. I think, from the general state of /usr/lib/gaim, it needs to be in .so format, whatever that is. How?
[02:03] <darius_> magicbronson_: but if you have a tcp session over the wireless link, why would it die when the wired ethernet is pulled
[02:04] <Music_Shuffle> chrisg0619, there are usually ways to avoid flushing the entire install.
[02:04] <adamh> LjL: All it is is a couple of extra tiny programs on a plain Linux distro, of course
[02:04] <LjL> adamh: great... unless it's so great that it does the wrong thing without even asking ;)
[02:04] <adamh> LjL: But it's nice that it tells me what to do ;)
[02:04] <gaten> chrisg0619:  like i said, ask someone of the more knowledgeable ppl here.
[02:04] <adamh> LjL: Depends on the distro, I suppose :)
[02:04] <reiatzu> !uname -a
[02:04] <un_operateur> darius_, probably because the route back to the source is via the wired connection -- lesser metric (path of least resistance)
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uname -a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <adamh> LjL: I forget which one I used.
[02:04] <adamh> ah well
[02:04] <chrisg0619> Music_Shuffle: so what would you suggest?
[02:05] <Music_Shuffle> I missed your issue, but...very few issues demanda complete reinstall.
[02:05] <Music_Shuffle> >.>
[02:05] <gaten> reiatzu:  try 'man uname' in your terminal
[02:05] <reiatzu> gaten: i know how to use uname ;)
[02:05] <reiatzu> i'm using 'zinc' and accidentally switched terminals
[02:05] <darius_> un_operateur: so the router would be failing to cut-over on the return path when he unplugs the Ethernet?
[02:05] <reiatzu> gaten: thanks :)
[02:06] <chrisg0619> Music_Shuffle: heh, the problem is that X won't load past the login.  The X log has a few errors about not finding fonts before "Synaptics DeviceOff called" and "(END)"
[02:06] <christopher> is there a utility for ubuntu like rc-update?
[02:06] <gaten> reiatzu:  oh, heh
[02:06] <LjL> christopher: update-rc.d?
[02:06] <magicbronson_> darius_: my ssh session is not over the wireless link
[02:07] <christopher> i want to stop ddclient from auto starting
[02:07] <LjL> Ubotu, tell christopher about boot | christopher, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:07] <Music_Shuffle> chrisg0619, have you tried to reinstall X?
[02:07] <magicbronson_> darius_: if i have someone unplug the ethernet cable, i'd lose my conneciton
[02:07] <chrisg0619> Music_Shuffle: no, how would I go about doing that?
[02:07] <Music_Shuffle> !X
[02:07] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:07] <lasindi> Hi all, I'm trying to get a Netgear WG111 v2 USB card working in Xubuntu 6.06. I've tried with ndiswrapper, but it doesn't appear to work even though the driver installs fine. I've also tried compiling the ieee80211 modules for the kernel, and they haven't produced any results. Any ideas on tricks I could try to get it working?
[02:07] <darius_> magicbronson_: you pasted an ssh packet from tcpdump that you said came from the wlan0 interface
[02:07] <Music_Shuffle> Err, dunno if that tells you what you need.
[02:07] <Music_Shuffle> LjL, how does one reinstall X? chrisg0619 needs help with it. >.>
[02:08] <darius_> magicbronson_: could you pastebin a larger sample?  curious if it's traffic from both directions
[02:08] <jake_> hello, I am trying ti install edgy on an old compaq deskpro en sff and I can't get the cd  to boot can anyone help?
[02:08] <un_operateur> darius_, the "router" in this case would be the SSH server itself, two interfaces,so yea, it's failing to fail-over to the wireless link if the wired one fails
[02:08] <gaten> !gfxboot
[02:08] <star> como conectarme con un chat msn
[02:08] <ubotu> gfxboot: bootlogo creator for gfxboot compliant boot loaders. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.23-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB
[02:08] <LjL> Music_Shuffle: well, strictly speaking, "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg", but i doubt that will be of much use
[02:08] <alex-weej> !boot
[02:08] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:08] <Music_Shuffle> LjL, I dunno, I'm about to gogo PS2 with my brother, so I can't help him anymore. :X
[02:09] <LjL> Music_Shuffle, chrisg0619: perhaps what you want is really dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:09] <chrisg0619> MusicShuffle: lol, have fun, thanks for the assistance
[02:09] <noelferreira_> hi people. how can i see my notebook model in edgy?
[02:09] <gaten> jake_:  does it boot at all or does it act like the cd doesnt exist?
[02:09] <un_operateur> magicbronson_, here's a question for you -- when you SSH to the IP address of the SSH server's wired interface (wth0 or whatever) how can you be guaranteed that all traffic is passed throught the wired connection??
[02:09] <chrisg0619> LjL: tried that already; should I do "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg"?
[02:09] <Slart> !es | star
[02:09] <ubotu> star: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:09] <Tomcat_> noelferreira: You can't usually... but you should have some warranty stickers or something on the bottom side.
[02:09] <Ha1> `Alrighty. I need to get a plugin for gaim that a friend wrote for me, called hal-plugin.pl. I need to put it into /usr/lib/gaim, which has been done. Still no ressult. I think, from the general state of /usr/lib/gaim, it needs to be in .so format, whatever that is. How?
[02:09] <kitche> noelferreira: you can't but the serial number on your laptop will tell you what model you have
[02:09] <Slart> star: was that correct? you speak spanish?
[02:09] <LjL> chrisg0619: it won't hurt, though i doubt it will help
[02:09] <un_operateur> s/wth0/eth0/
[02:09] <magicbronson_> darius_: http://pastebin.ca/295036
[02:09] <chrisg0619> LjL: why don't you think it will help?
[02:09] <DBO> un_operateur, because connections cant be shared over multiple interfaces
[02:09] <specialbuddy> how do I change the name of my workgroup?
[02:09] <jake_> the computer boots, but it won't boot the cd, I know its a good disk because I have used it many times
[02:10] <noelferreira> my computer is a targa. but it is built from MSI
[02:10] <noelferreira> and i needed MSI model. do you understand?
[02:10] <un_operateur> DBO, well they can, but there is no guarantee that load-sharing happens
[02:10] <LjL> chrisg0619: because that's just a metapackage, or little more. tell me the whole story please - how did the problem arise etc
[02:10] <jake_> I have enable cd booting in the bios.
[02:10] <darius_> magicbronson_: you are ssh'ing from the mindspring source?
[02:10] <nilsl> Jag?
[02:10] <gaten> jake_:  have u tried another bootable disk of some sort?
[02:11] <_leon_> does anyone know where postgres installs to by default? I thought it would be /usr/local/pgsql
[02:11] <DBO> un_operateur, not a single connection instance, load sharing is different
[02:11] <DBO> un_operateur, you can load share a single ssh connection
[02:11] <darius_> magicbronson_: in which case, you have a port rule on the router to send to a specific IP.
[02:11] <jake_> ypu, I have tried quite a few
[02:11] <magicbronson_> darius_: yes
[02:11] <kitche> _leon_: might be in /opt or /usr/bin that's two places I would look first
[02:11] <Ha1> Alrighty. I need to get a plugin for gaim that a friend wrote for me, called hal-plugin.pl. I think I need to put it into /usr/lib/gaim, which has been done. Still no result. I think, from the general state of /usr/lib/gaim, it needs to be in .so format, whatever that is. How?
[02:11] <darius_> magicbronson_: you're going to drop because the router is looking for the IP on the wired network
[02:11] <_leon_> kitche: cheers I'll check
[02:11] <gaten> jake_:  hmm, my only suggestion would be then to try and burn another iso. redownload then burn
[02:11] <magicbronson_> darius_: it's sending it to 192.168.2.250, which is what the computer's eth0 is set to pull
[02:12] <jake_> the computer came from an office setting, is there a jumper inside which might cause it to ot boot the cdrom?
[02:12] <chrisg0619> LjL: well, i downloaded a bunch of updates for Ubuntu 6.10, then I uninstalled two things, Evolution and OpenOffice.org.  I think I screwed up Evolution or something, because after that, I couldn't access "Fonts" from the system prefs.  I reinstalled a few packages to try to fix stuff, and then I restarted the computer.  Now, this.
[02:12] <kitche> Ha1: gaim doesn't understand perl scripts to me that sounds like irssi script
[02:12] <un_operateur> DBO, it is not a "single connection" -- it's two interfaces with IP addresses in the same subnet, both with default route's to the same default gateway
[02:12] <Ha1> It doesnt do perl scripts? Dear god.
[02:12] <jake_> I know the iso is good
[02:12] <eracc> Is there a DVD ISO image for 6.10? I have been looking around on the ubuntu web site and searching the web for a couple of hours and can't find one. I did find one for 6.06 but not 6.10.
[02:12] <darius_> magicbronson_: very difficult to troubleshoot when you lose visibility at cutover
[02:13] <LjL> chrisg0619: i'd try a "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop". that will install evolution and ooo back again, but at least you'd make sure you have all the needed packages installed
[02:13] <magicbronson_> darius_: i know... this sucks
[02:13] <DBO> un_operateur, doesnt matter at all, a single connection, a single TCP stream if you will, cannot be shared over multiple interfaces
[02:13] <DBO> period
[02:13] <gobles> anyone have a good torrent client or is utorrent in wine the best solution?
[02:13] <chrisg0619> LjL: thanks, I'll try that; be back in a few
[02:14] <DBO> un_operateur, just like you cant load share a single download (traditional, not bittorrent or the like which feature multiple connections) over many interfaces, a ssh connection cant be shared either
[02:14] <un_operateur> DBO, why in the world not? as long as both connecting devices understand IP-load sharing, TCP can be multiplexed too
[02:14] <darius_> magicbronson_: if you can originate traffic from the host with the source IP on the wireless interface, it should help to remotely troubleshoot
[02:15] <LjL> wasn't TCP connection oriented last time?
[02:15] <MTecknology> is it possible to pause ubuntu install right after it loads the kernel?
[02:15] <LjL> MTecknology: dunno, perhaps try ScrollLock or Break
[02:15] <LameBMX> MTecknology, hit the pause break key
[02:15] <LameBMX> lol
[02:15] <darius_> magicbronson_: can you 'ping -I <wireless IP> <internet host>' ?
[02:15] <LjL> yeah, Pause too :P
[02:16] <MTecknology> LameBMX, nope, neither worked
[02:16] <DBO> un_operateur, the only way to do it would to have both interfaces sharing the same IP and responding virtually the same interface on linux itself (both called eth0) and having the hardware itself on the other end also support the same feature set to essentially share two interfaces as one
[02:16] <gaten> !inetd
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:16] <LameBMX> hmmm ...
[02:16] <HymnToLife> !info inetd
[02:16] <LameBMX> then i dont know
[02:16] <ubotu> Package inetd does not exist in any distro I know
[02:16] <HymnToLife> funny
[02:17] <nova> does not allow me to create a /usr/java
[02:17] <nova> ?
[02:17] <LameBMX> i know it worked on mine .. and i somehow got stuck in a step situation where i had to hit pause for each action to occur ... took forever to boot that time
[02:17] <magicbronson_> darius_: you mean "ping -l 192.168.2.3 <???>" from my computer here or from the machine in question?
[02:17] <darius_> magicbronson_: the machine in question
[02:17] <DBO> un_operateur, however this is getting rather off topic, your question is how can you be sure, and the answer is because thats just not how things work
[02:17] <magicbronson_> darius_: so can it ping itself?
[02:17] <magicbronson_> darius_: also -l takes a number
[02:18] <darius_> magicbronson_: -I
[02:18] <darius_> magicbronson_: ping a host on the internet
[02:18] <nova> It does not allow me to make a folder java in /usr  I need a /usr/java direc
[02:18] <nova> help?
[02:18] <magicbronson_> oh, that's a capital i!
[02:19] <kitche> nova: sudo mkdir /usr/java
[02:19] <LameBMX> nova, sudo mkdir /usr/java
[02:19] <Tomcat_> !java | nova
[02:19] <ubotu> nova: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:19] <noiesmo> how can i find out how/why my system may have rebooted itself, overnite whilst doing some downloads
[02:19] <un_operateur> DBO, AFAIK, linux responds to arp requests on segments that really have nothing to do with those IP/MAC addresses -- eg. 172.16.2.1 [box1]  10.0.0.1 <- - > 10.0.0.2 [box2]  192.168.2.1  -- box 2 can ping 172.16.2.1 regardless of whether box1 has routing/ip forwarding setup
[02:19] <magicbronson_> "ping -I 192.168.2.3 google.com" -> "3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2001ms"
[02:19] <magicbronson_> darius_: that looks good!
[02:19] <darius_> magicbronson_: then 'tcpdump -i wlan0 icmp' while doing it
[02:19] <Tomcat_> noiesmo: Check /var/log/syslog
[02:19] <Tomcat_> noiesmo: If it's earlier than the first timestamp, try /var/log/syslog.0
[02:20] <noiesmo> Tomcat_, thanks looking now
[02:20] <killsythe> hey all. does anyone know where wine stores files after running a win installer?
[02:20] <un_operateur> DBO, and since we have a couple of unknowns here -- the exact physical route of packets across these two interfaces (wired and wireless) is pretty unsure -- which was why i asked him how he could be sure, in an effort to probably make him realize
[02:20] <LameBMX> geez ... 2sec ping on google .. what are you out on the moon or something
[02:20] <interfear> i have given up with ubuntu cuz there is no way i can install it
[02:20] <interfear> grrr
[02:20] <LameBMX> oh wait .. there are still dial-up left in this country eh
[02:20] <jbroome> no, we have reliable comms to the moon. :P
[02:20] <interfear> can't i upgrade from 6.06 -> 6.10?
[02:21] <DBO> un_operateur, but you are providing that both interfaces are using different IP's
[02:21] <magicbronson_> darius_: http://pastebin.ca/295042
[02:21] <kitche> interfear: yes
[02:21] <DBO> and you are sshing tot he wired IP
[02:21] <magicbronson_> darius_: also looks good!
[02:21] <interfear> kitche: would it be any different than just doing a clean 6.10 install?
[02:21] <kitche> interfear: gksu update-manager -c is the official way to do it
[02:21] <un_operateur> DBO, i am not doing anything .. magicbronson_ is
[02:21] <darius_> magicbronson_: 192.168.2.3 is the IP on your wireless interface?
[02:21] <refus3d> you need to install the gsku warpper interfear
[02:21] <magicbronson_> darius_: yes
[02:22] <interfear> i can only get into x through 6.06's safe graphics mode, 6.10 nothing works for me..
[02:22] <interfear> i think linux just hates my samsung syncmaster 914v lcd panel
[02:22] <darius_> magicbronson_: huh..
[02:22] <interfear> all dists seem to give it a problem
[02:22] <nova> how do I make a file paste into /usr/java  ?
[02:22] <DBO> un_operateur, ahhhhh perhaps I misunderstand the situation then, but if the interfaces have a unique IP each, and you SSH to the wired one, that is the route it will use.  You can easily verify via iptables using some logging
[02:22] <HymnToLife> interfear, or more likely the other way around
[02:22] <interfear> HymnToLife: heh yes
[02:23] <nova> how do I make a file paste into /usr/java  ?
[02:23] <nova> bin file
[02:23] <refus3d> nova cd to the /
[02:23] <HymnToLife> nova, cp /path/to/file.bin /usr/java
[02:23] <HymnToLife> as root
[02:23] <refus3d> then rmdir
[02:23] <darius_> magicbronson_: might want to try the same thing with "telnet -b .." to confirm that TCP is being allows in both directions on the wireless internet
[02:23] <nova> ok the bin file is on my desktop so whats the exact command?
[02:23] <darius_> magicbronson_: interface
[02:24] <HymnToLife> nova, sudo cp ~/Desktop/filename.bin /usr/java
[02:24] <nova> thank you
[02:24] <un_operateur> DBO, whether SSH will be directed over the wired link depends on whether the router/switch directs layer2 traffic over that link or not -- if a recent CAM table update preferred to keep the wireless link's MAC address in an ARP update, it's likely that link will be used instead
[02:25] <un_operateur> DBO, but yes, i agree on logging... its the only definite way to find out
[02:25] <DBO> ok I see where we are getting too
[02:25] <DBO> yes in that kind of setup you could have that issue
[02:25] <Tomcat_> nova: What are you trying to do generally? There are probably better ways.
[02:25] <DBO> un_operateur, I thought we were speaking of a single ssh session which would have originated on the wired interface
[02:26] <Sebboh> Tomcat_, 'probably'?
[02:26] <Sebboh> :)\
[02:26] <DBO> un_operateur, one could easily force iptables to block port 22 on wlan0
[02:26] <magicbronson_> darius_: what would that whole telnet command be? sorry
[02:27] <darius_> magicbronson_: I suspect that either the system or the router is still trying to send packets over the wired interface.  If practical, you could try rebootin gthe router after the wired interface has been unplugged.  Also, may want to have the remote end disable the wired port (instead of just unplugging) to test
[02:27] <Tomcat_> Sebboh: Well he's talking about /usr/java and a bin file... he *probably* wants to install java, and there's 1) a package and 2) a debian-way(tm) to manually install Java :)
[02:27] <chrisg0619> LjL: it works, and i'm chatting on IRC from ubuntu--w00t!  now, how do i uninstall openoffice.org and evolution without driving my computer nuts?
[02:27] <un_operateur> DBO, IIRC I think it is the machine with the two interfaces that is also the SSH server -- but the point i am making is, multiple IP addresses in the same subnet assigned to different interfaces on the same machine is almost always a bad idea
[02:27] <darius_> magicbronson: "telnet -b 192.168.2.3 www.google.com 80"
[02:27] <darius_> magicbronson: then "tcpdump -i wlan0 port 80"
[02:27] <Sebboh> tomcat_, I'm with you all the way on that. =)
[02:27] <kitche> chrisg0619: well it'll be hard to remove evolution since gnome depends on it
[02:28] <LjL> chrisg0619, well, how did you uninstall them last time?
[02:28] <chrisg0619> kitche: it does?  I see...
[02:28] <magicbronson_> darius_: "Connected to va-in-f104.google.com."
[02:28] <chrisg0619> LjL: package manager.
[02:28] <DBO> un_operateur, it will be a bigger issue to the server than to the router, the router does not know that they are even the same computer, unique MAC and unique IP = no CAM list conflict
[02:28] <Tomcat_> Sebboh: :D
[02:28] <chrisg0619> kitche: so can I uninstall OpenOffice.org without ruining Gnome?
[02:28] <darius_> magicbronson_: tcpdump it to verify that it all went over the wireless interface
[02:28] <kitche> chrisg0619: yeah you can remove OpenOffice
[02:28] <noelferreira_> there's any command to see my notebook model?
[02:29] <chrisg0619> kitche, LjL: thanks for all your help; I really appreciate it!
[02:29] <weem> how long is installing ubuntu from the disc suposed to take?
[02:29] <DBO> weem, anywhere from half an hour to an hour and a half depending on the computer
[02:29] <LjL> chrisg0619, i'm not exactly sure what packages can be safely removed... but i guess openoffice.org-writer and friends should be safe to remove
[02:30] <weem> DBO oh ok
[02:30] <SubMOA> Help! I can't Top-Kill a process!
[02:30] <refus3d> weem, 12 days or so?
[02:30] <weem> cus its been like 5 lol
[02:30] <SubMOA> oh wait
[02:30] <SubMOA> an idea just dawned on me
[02:30] <weem> refus3d .....
[02:30] <DBO> weem, yeah thats a problem
[02:30] <magicbronson_> darius_: looks like it
[02:30] <magicbronson_> darius_: so this is good news
[02:30] <refus3d> weem, took me 12 days to get it working
[02:30] <magicbronson_> darius_: should i be worried about the 0 link quality?
[02:30] <weem> its only been like 15 minutes but the top and bottem bars froze
[02:30] <chrisg0619> LjL: all right; I'll do that.
[02:30] <weem> can still click the two icons on my desktok tho
[02:30] <weem> desktop
[02:31] <darius_> magicbronson_: well.. you may want to try pinging with a large payload.  but I think it's just a driver issue (of not reporting correctly)
[02:31] <magicbronson_> darius_: cool, hope so
[02:31] <Renan_s2> Hello, how can I increase the maximum number of open files? Some applications are complaining about "not enough files"
[02:31] <magicbronson_> darius_: thanks for your help
[02:31] <darius_> magicbronson_: since half of you ssh session is going over the wireless link now - I don't think it's a problem
[02:31] <SubMOA> HAHA! I prevail!! nevermind :O)
[02:31] <MTecknology> When I boot into Ubuntu install I have the options presented to me. I select the install option and it goes. It gives me a few errors and then goes into install asking me for a language. I try to select English but my keyboard has quit working.
[02:31] <magicbronson_> darius_: nice
[02:31] <MTecknology> PS2 kayboard
[02:31] <weem> DBO - so even though the top and bottem two bars are frozen, should i just keep it running?
[02:32] <darius_> magicbronson_: try having your remote hands disable the wired interface on the PC (this should tear down the local route, etc)
[02:32] <DBO> weem, what step is it on?
[02:32] <darius_> magicbronson_: of course, they'll need to be capable of bringing it back up
[02:32] <weem> 5 out of 6
[02:32] <weem> and i minimized it
[02:32] <interfear> When I boot up 6.10 the bootup screen (where you see the ubuntu progress bar) looks skewed and only grey in color, could this be an Xorg problem or something else?
[02:32] <weem> now it's frozen but i can still run the two things off the desktop
[02:33] <StingRay> Hi. Can somebody tell me how to restrict a user to gnome?
[02:33] <DBO> weem, how long has it been running?
[02:33] <weem> like 10 minutes
[02:33] <refus3d> Strider,
[02:33] <DBO> weem, just wait
[02:33] <weem> kk
[02:33] <interfear> my bootup screen looks like this..
[02:33] <interfear> http://librarian.launchpad.net/4922303/22-10-06_1325.jpg
[02:33] <DBO> StingRay, how hard do you want to make it to get around?
[02:33] <interfear> i hear its a common problem now
[02:34] <StingRay> enough DBO
[02:34] <DBO> StingRay, in most situations it would of course still be possible to get around using a console, is that ok?
[02:34] <StingRay> auth requisite pam_succeed_if.so user ingroup <GROUP NAME>
[02:35] <StingRay> tried this ... :(
[02:35] <StingRay> ok DBO
[02:35] <DBO> StingRay, are you using gdm or kdm?
[02:35] <un_operateur> StingRay, by "restrict a user to gnome" i suppose you mean prohibit a user from changing their window manager/desktop environment to KDE or XFCE, etc?
[02:35] <StingRay> both
[02:36] <weem> DBO - do i even need to install this? i am only DLing to run 1 app then never use it again lol
[02:36] <nazgul> damn ... where was the location again of the .desktop files that show up in gdm as sessions?
[02:36] <DBO> StingRay, how are you using both...
[02:36] <DBO> StingRay, you can only use one or the other
[02:36] <gaten> how do you run inetd? i see no script nor daemon
[02:36] <StingRay> nope. I don't want to allow the user to login at all to gnome
[02:36] <DBO> weem, what are you looking to do?
[02:36] <Shocka311> Can anyone tell me how to see how much ram I have
[02:36] <StingRay> not simultaniosly of course DBO
[02:36] <weem> run Airsnort
[02:37] <nazgul> Shocka311: in a terminal, type "free -m"
[02:37] <DBO> weem, get backtrack (live CD)
[02:37] <Tomcat_> Shocka311: free -m in console, or open gnome-system-monitor
[02:37] <StingRay> I want to restrict some of the users to login to X via gdm
[02:37] <weem> DBO - I have it...isnt working out
[02:37] <magicfinger> hello i still cant get this ubuntu disk to boot during start up any ideas?
[02:37] <weem> so Airsnort would be easier
[02:37] <un_operateur> StingRay, make sure root owns their .xinitrc file and set it to be read-only
[02:37] <DBO> weem, unfortunate, tried knoppix with a security flavor?
[02:37] <weem> idk what that is
[02:37] <Asc> You can run multiple window managers simultaneously by executing /usr/bin/gdmflexisserver
[02:37] <Shocka311> which line tells me the ram?
[02:37] <DBO> StingRay, that is going to be more complex than expected
[02:38] <weem> cant i just DL airsnort when running ubuntu off the CD
[02:38] <nazgul> Shocka311: beneath "total"
[02:38] <StingRay> un_operateur, won't this affect kde also for this user?
[02:38] <DBO> StingRay, the easiest way would be of course to limit their access to the .desktop files (users who cant read the file wont have it listed)
[02:38] <un_operateur> StingRay, get a user to select a WM .. after they have done that, lock their .xinitrc files
[02:39] <un_operateur> s/files/file/
[02:39] <weem> DBO - cant i just DL airsnort when running ubuntu off the CD
[02:39] <nix_ferret> What C++ program would you folks recommend for a n00b that runs ubuntu?
[02:39] <DBO> weem, yes
[02:39] <Shocka311> it says 218 mem and 431 swap, which one is my ram
[02:39] <weem> so should i just turn off my comp now and reboot from CD?
[02:39] <StingRay> un_operateur, sorry for asking but what is WM
[02:39] <kitche> Shocka311: the mem
[02:39] <DBO> StingRay, if you have few users xinitrc is easy enough, but that requires manual selection
[02:39] <un_operateur> StingRay, Window Manager
[02:39] <DBO> StingRay, WM == gnome or KDE
[02:39] <Shocka311> thanks
[02:39] <reiatzu> Window manager, StingRay
[02:39] <nazgul> Shocka311: "mem".
[02:39] <StingRay> thanks DBO
[02:40] <DBO> StingRay, how many users?
[02:40] <nix_ferret> I tried anjuta but it keeps crashing.
[02:40] <weem> DBO - so should i just turn off my comp now and reboot from CD?
[02:40] <killsythe> how do i show hidden files?
[02:40] <kitche> killsythe: in what in terminal it's just ls -a
[02:40] <StingRay> not much only 3 at the moment. Can you tell me if this will affect also freenx :)
[02:40] <nix_ferret> killsythe, in the gui or in command line?
[02:40] <killsythe> in the gui
[02:40] <Tomcat_> Nah... Gnome & KDE are no WMs.
[02:40] <DBO> StingRay, ok here is how I would do it
[02:40] <neurotech> How can I play embedded movies in Firefox that have the ID "mplayer2"
[02:40] <nix_ferret> ctrl+h
[02:41] <DBO> StingRay, I qualify that with the note that I tend to look for overly complex solutions that scale well
[02:41] <un_operateur> Tomcat_, are they webservers? :>
[02:41] <nix_ferret> or view>hidden files
[02:41] <kitche> un_operateur: theya re actually DE (desktop environments)
[02:41] <killsythe> how do i navigate to a hidden directory in terminal
[02:41] <nix_ferret> Any of you ladies do C++?
[02:41] <weem> DBO - so should i just turn off my comp now and reboot from CD?
[02:41] <_Shadowfax_> is there any bluetooth phone program in ubuntu?
[02:41] <kitche> killsythe: cd dir
[02:41] <DBO> StingRay, in your /usr/share/xsessions dir there are a bunch of .desktop files
[02:41] <DBO> weem, yes
[02:41] <StingRay> DBO, I am all ears
[02:41] <nazgul> killsythe: "cd .hiddendirname"
[02:42] <neurotech> How can I play embedded movies in Firefox that have the ID "mplayer2"?
[02:42] <nix_ferret> killsythe, just type "cd /folder/folder/folder
[02:42] <un_operateur> kitche, they are also window managers since they control things like title bars, decoarations, title-bar-actions, locations, dimensions, shading, etc etc
[02:42] <kitche> un_operateur: well metacity does that alogn with kwin
[02:42] <DBO> StingRay, in there chown the gnome related .desktop files to root:gnomeusers
[02:42] <killsythe> hm, i checked off "show hidden and backup files" in file browser and i'm not getting anything
[02:43] <DBO> StingRay, in there chown the kde related .desktop files to root:kdeusers
[02:43] <DBO> StingRay, then set those files to have the permission of 640 (so they are NOT world readable)
[02:43] <nix_ferret> neurotech, I may be wrong but you need the mplayer plug-in that launches them in totem
[02:43] <StingRay> Thank you DBO. I am starting right away
[02:43] <DBO> then you make 2 groups, one called, gnomeusers, and one called kdeusers
[02:43] <DBO> (actually do that first)
[02:43] <neurotech> nix_ferret: Where can I get that?
[02:43] <neurotech> !mplayer
[02:43] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[02:43] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[02:43] <DBO> StingRay, assign users to those groups based upon your preference
[02:44] <killsythe> also, when i try to navigate to the hidden folder in terminal, it tells me "no such file or folder", although ls -a did return it
[02:44] <DBO> and those are the only desktops they will have access to
[02:44] <killsythe> any ideas?
[02:44] <StingRay> I thought finally I will be dealing with groups again ;)
[02:44] <DBO> StingRay, I like doing things this way
[02:44] <DBO> StingRay, make sure to add yourself to those groups too or else you wont have access
[02:44] <DBO> StingRay, note that this will NOTE effect startx, only gdm and kdm
[02:45] <nix_ferret> neurotech, click the 'add ons' in the firefox menu and then click get plug-ins in firefox. Takes you right there
[02:45] <StingRay> there is always a console :)
[02:45] <DBO> s/NOTE/NOT/
[02:45] <Preserved> Hi, I am hoping someone is willing to help me solve my problem with my graphics card? I am an unfortunate owner of an ATI card that just doesn't wanna function.
[02:45] <StingRay> tty i mean
[02:45] <killsythe> oh nevermind, i got it...thanks for your help
[02:45] <nix_ferret> neurotech, Tools>Add Ons>Extentions "Get Extentions"
[02:46] <nix_ferret> Ok, so, no one does the C++ business here?
[02:46] <reiatzu> ?
[02:46] <reiatzu> business?
[02:46] <darius_> nix_ferret: vi and gcc
[02:46] <nix_ferret> What C++ program would you folks recommend for a n00b that runs ubuntu?
[02:47] <darius_> nix_ferret: or check out Eclipse
[02:47] <nix_ferret> darius_, old-school. You use a text pad to code? Damn dude, that's hard core.
[02:47] <Preserved> So I would be guessing that to get a ATI graphic card to work under Ubuntu you have to be really lucky?
[02:47] <DBO> StingRay, mmmm actually because gdm and kdm run as root, this may not work...
[02:47] <DBO> StingRay, I will have to look and see exactly how those scripts get executed, they might actually get executed by root
[02:47] <noiesmo> Hello All.  If I have dual boot system am I able to use say vmware to run my windows install whilst in linux or do I need to reinstall windows thru vmware?
[02:47] <nix_ferret> I "guess" that is the preferred way to do it.
[02:48] <StingRay> At first I thought manipulating the /etc/init.d/gdm will work setting to 640... but...
[02:48] <darius_> nix_ferret: cannot deal with it any other way :)
[02:48] <bruenig> noiesmo, you would need to reinstall through vmware, or you can just restart the computer and pick the windows partition
[02:48] <DBO> StingRay, no thats run as root
[02:48] <StingRay> I see
[02:48] <noiesmo> bruenig, k will reinstall
[02:48] <nix_ferret> darius_, I'll check out eclipse, thx. I know, my bro is a hard-core programmer and he tells me to use notepad. Dunno, guess I just a wuss.
[02:49] <StingRay> I say this DBO: http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/FAQ_43_9247.shtm
[02:49] <kwood> could anyone tell me why ubuntu when trying to resize a disk freezes and why if i try to edit partition manually also freezes up.
[02:49] <StingRay> But it is not helping me, probably because of the root
[02:49] <darius_> nix_ferret: http://www.eclipse.org/home/categories/languages.php
[02:49] <nix_ferret> nice. thx.
[02:49] <StingRay> I saw I meant, DBO
[02:50] <DBO> StingRay, that would restrict gnome access to a set of users and disallow X access all together to everyone else
[02:50] <DBO> StingRay, thats also the proper way to do things =P
[02:51] <kwood> wouild there be an error log of it?
[02:51] <chrissturm> nix_ferret: http://www.eclipse.org/callisto/c-dev.php
[02:51] <nix_ferret> You guys are all right...
[02:53] <weem> DBO
[02:53] <DBO> weem
[02:53] <weem> it saids to install, i gotta do ./configure, make, makeinstall
[02:54] <weem> how's that done
[02:54] <DBO> weem, just do sudo apt-get install airsnort
[02:55] <weem> lol
[02:55] <weem> wtf
[02:55] <kitche> weem: your way was to compile it from source
[02:55] <nix_ferret> weem, it's already in the repository built for ubuntu, no need to recompile it unless you need something special
[02:56] <nix_ferret> I believe the saying is "whoop, there it is..."
[02:57] <stickciv> i need a bit of help installing ubuntu
[02:57] <weem> well
[02:57] <bruenig> stickciv, specifically...
[02:58] <weem> when i double click airsnort.exe it saids cannot open.....no application suitable for automatic installation is available for handling this kind of file
[02:58] <bruenig> weem, .exe?
[02:58] <nix_ferret> lol weem
[02:58] <stickciv> here's the problem: when i boot fromt he cd and select the option to run the live cd, it does its loading thing, then gets to a screen saying that X server could not be started, because it isnt correctly configured
[02:58] <nix_ferret> that's for windows
[02:58] <Preserved> Could somebody translate this?
[02:58] <Preserved> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ glxinfo
[02:58] <Preserved> name of display: :0.0
[02:58] <Preserved> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[02:58] <Preserved>   Major opcode of failed request:  142 (GLX)
[02:58] <Preserved>   Minor opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GLXCreateContext)
[02:58] <Preserved>   Serial number of failed request:  16
[02:58] <Preserved>   Current serial number in output stream:  17
[02:58] <Preserved> Sorry
[02:58] <kitche> !paste
[02:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:58] <bruenig> !paste
[02:58] <chrissturm> why is cyrus-imapd in universe? is there a imap sever in main?
[02:58] <imbecile> okay you guys i have a question.. can i install kde apps on gnome desktop?? i feel so stupid asking this
[02:59] <bruenig> imbecile, yep
[02:59] <imbecile> nice
[02:59] <stickciv> I try doing sude dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:59] <weem> yeah
[02:59] <nix_ferret> imbecile, yes you can
[02:59] <kitche> imbecile: yes they will pull kde also probably
[02:59] <weem> undler the folder "bin"
[02:59] <weem> it has that
[02:59] <stickciv> i blast through that yet it still gives me an error
[02:59] <nix_ferret> imbecile, don't feel stupid, I just asked that last week
[02:59] <imbecile> thanks you guys
[02:59] <bruenig> hmmm, nix_ferret assumes he isn't stupid....
[02:59] <imbecile> nix_ferret, hehe
[02:59] <Preserved> Could somebody please translate this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39256/
[03:00] <imbecile> thanks you guys, ya'll rock
[03:00] <nix_ferret> bruenig, lol, nice. The more I learn the more stupid I feel.
[03:00] <stickciv> could someone help me?
[03:00] <apokryphos> !helpme
[03:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:00] <weem> ...so how do i run the program?
[03:00] <stickciv> here's the problem: when i boot fromt he cd and select the option to run the live cd, it does its loading thing, then gets to a screen saying that X server could not be started, because it isnt correctly configured
[03:00] <stickciv> I try doing sude dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:00] <stickciv> i blast through that yet it still gives me an error
[03:00] <kitche> weem after you get it from the repo you just open up a terminal and type airsnort
[03:00] <Dimensions>  can some one help ... i can ssh into remote pc but when i am transfering file i get Permission Denied Publickey lost connection
[03:00] <stickciv> Fatal server Error: could not find screen
[03:00] <bruenig> weem, delete all of that stuff you downloaded, then open up a terminal and do "sudo apt-get install airsnort"
[03:01] <kitche> stickciv: the error would help pastebin it please
[03:01] <bruenig> weem, after that does its thing, do man airsnort, should tell you what you can do with it.
[03:01] <nix_ferret> weem, you can't really. Go to the terminal and do a sudo apt-get install airsnort
[03:01] <ubuntu_> i have ubuntu 6.10 installed and i installed openfiler to try it out for a nas and it corrupted my grub how do i go about restoring/reinstalling the grub
[03:02] <stickciv> Well, here's the second part of my problem, the computer now refuses to boot off cd's stat. No cd will boot it, even though its configured in the BIOS to boot off the cd
[03:02] <weem> i did
[03:02] <weem> and it saids
[03:02] <stickciv> it just goes straight to the HD
[03:02] <weem> E: Couldn't find package airsnort
[03:02] <bruenig> !info airsnort
[03:02] <ubotu> airsnort: WLAN sniffer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7e-1.1 (edgy), package size 49 kB, installed size 180 kB
[03:02] <bruenig> weem, you need to enable universe, what version of ubuntu are you using and have you ever messed with your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[03:03] <weem> 6.10 and no
[03:03] <nix_ferret> weem, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you need to enable the ubuntu universe
[03:03] <Preserved> Uhm, wouldn't it be easier to do it with synaptic?
[03:03] <weem> all i wanna do is run this 1 thing lol
[03:03] <weem> didnt mess with anything
[03:03] <bruenig> weem, ok open a terminal and copy and paste the following all of it:sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/edgy universe/edgy universe multiverse/g' -e 's/edgy-security universe/edgy-security universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install airsnort
[03:03] <weem> just botted from CD
[03:03] <robtp> can someone tell me whats wrong with this: for (unsigned int i=0; i<=num; i++) {sum += i;}
[03:03] <weem> haha
[03:03] <weem> ok 1 sec
[03:03] <nix_ferret> yes, it would be. weem, to the bat-mobile, err...synaptic
[03:04] <nix_ferret> weem, WAIT! That formats your hard drive!
[03:04] <kitche> nix_ferret: ?
[03:04] <chrissturm> can i tell apt-cache to search only packages in main?
[03:04] <bruenig> is nix_ferret saying my command formats the hard drive?
[03:05] <nix_ferret> jk
[03:05] <Music_Shuffle> ...
[03:05] <robtp> nevermind, btw
[03:05] <vulcanius> has anyone installed gnome 2.2 with ubuntu yet?
[03:05] <robtp> vulcanius: 2.20?
[03:05] <robtp> vulcanius: because there was also a 2.2 :)
[03:05] <ryanakca> stupid question: I had found a script thingy for a borderless, menuless, transparent konsole/terminal centered right in the middle of my desktop, behind all windows 6-7 months ago... I can't seem to find it... anybody have a link?
[03:05] <vulcanius> heh, meant 2.20, yes
[03:06] <weem> kk bruenig i did that
[03:06] <weem> DLing now
[03:06] <weem> ok it finished
[03:06] <robtp> vulcanius: isn't 2.17 the current unstable release?
[03:06] <bruenig> weem, do "man airsnort"
[03:07] <Tomcat_> robtp: Correct.
[03:07] <weem> yeah it opened the manual
[03:07] <bruenig> weem, so read it, figure out what you are doing and do it
[03:08] <vulcanius> .....i believe.....you may be correct
[03:08] <robtp> vulcanius: you can use garnome or jhbuild to build 2.17, or else upgrade to edgy
[03:08] <imbecile> how do i install wireshark?
[03:08] <robtp> errr... feisty
[03:08] <bruenig> !info wireshark
[03:08] <ubotu> wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.3a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 545 kB, installed size 1528 kB
[03:08] <vulcanius> lol, i was about to say
[03:09] <bruenig> imbecile, have you enabled the universe repository?
[03:09] <vulcanius> robtp, are you running feisty or edgy?
[03:09] <imbecile> bruenig, no how do i do that?
[03:09] <nix_ferret> imbecile, use the code above from bruenig except change airsnort to wireshark
[03:09] <robtp> vulcanius: edgy, i dont like surprises
[03:09] <vulcanius> lol
[03:10] <bruenig> imbecile, run the following command, the entire thing: sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/edgy universe/edgy universe multiverse/g' -e 's/edgy-security universe/edgy-security universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wireshark
[03:10] <imbecile> bruenig, i'm using dapper drake
[03:11] <bruenig> imbecile, ok then do this: sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/dapper universe/dapper universe multiverse/g' -e 's/dapper-security universe/dapper-security universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install airsnort
[03:11] <bruenig> or with wireshark not airsnort
[03:11] <imbecile> bruenig thanks
[03:11] <imbecile> this installs repo's as well?
[03:11] <bruenig> imbecile, it enables all the ubuntu repos
[03:12] <imbecile> bruenig, thanks
[03:12] <vulcanius> man oh man I wish beryl had better multihead support
[03:13] <refus3d> !ops
[03:13] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[03:13] <apokryphos> refus3d: what?
[03:13] <DBO> yes?
[03:13] <tonyyarusso> Hmmm?
[03:13] <rob> huh?
[03:14] <refus3d> shut up
[03:14] <webmaren> it's always nice to login in the middle of an argument
[03:14] <baxter_kylie> Hi. Can anyone tell me the name of the program that handles pdf-viewing in gnome?
[03:15] <morghanphoenix> Graphics problems glxinfo gives this:
[03:15] <morghanphoenix> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:15] <morghanphoenix> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[03:15] <Madpilot> baxter_kylie, evince
[03:15] <baxter_kylie> Madpilot: Thank you!
[03:15] <morghanphoenix> any idea what's wrong here?
[03:15] <nix_ferret> baxter_kylie, or adobe reader for *nix
[03:15] <kitche> morghanphoenix: you can enable it with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:17] <morghanphoenix> um, how many kilobytes is a 64MB video card?
[03:17] <imbecile> whats the name of ubuntus package manager? I have used fc and am used to yum
[03:17] <morghanphoenix> I forgot the multiplier
[03:17] <nix_ferret> err, 64x8000 ??
[03:18] <nova> how do I install a cpkg file?
[03:18] <Madpilot> imbecile, apt, or apt-get/aptitude/Synaptic
[03:18] <nova> cedega
[03:18] <imbecile> madpilot, thanks
[03:19] <nova> how do I install a cpkg file? from the desktop
[03:19] <webmaren> morganphoenix MB = 1024KB
[03:19] <nova> how do I install a cpkg file?
[03:20] <SoulChild> Yo i love Ubuntu
[03:20] <nova> me 2 :)
[03:20] <nova> how do I install a cpkg file?
[03:21] <SoulChild> ***webmaren :D
[03:22] <nova> how do I install a cpkg file?
[03:22] <webmaren> lol greg_ got coronated hehe
[03:22] <webmaren> nova: if nobody answers, nobody has answer
[03:22] <nova> sorry
[03:22] <nova> thought they just did not give a damn
[03:22] <webmaren> nova: please don't keep repeating the same question again and again
[03:22] <nova> sorry
[03:23] <Virtuall> what is cpkg?
[03:23] <nova> beats me
[03:23] <djm62> Is banshee on ubuntu 6.10 with ~1300 files known for being quite slow (using up 100% CPU on changing from viewing "Music Library" to "ipod" for long enough to read a longish webpage?)
[03:23] <nova> its a file that cedega is on
[03:24] <Virtuall> :
[03:24] <Music_Shuffle> djm62, Amarok isn't, neither is Quod Libre or RhythmBox, I would venture to guess that Banshee isn't either >.>
[03:24] <djm62> I've googled it, and tried removing ~.gnome2/banshee but with no effect
[03:25] <djm62> Music_Shuffle: I used rhythmbox and it was absolutely fine, but I got a gift of an iPod- I'm still trying to calibrate my expectations of normal behaviour with one
[03:25] <Music_Shuffle> >.>?
[03:25] <Music_Shuffle> Why Banshee?
[03:25] <Music_Shuffle> You can sync with other programs.
[03:25] <monArch> and now discconect
[03:26] <djm62> I can sync wth gtkpod and banshee- if I can sync with anything else, I have no idea how to do it, hence moving from software I was pretty much happy with
[03:26] <nova> ok im back :)
[03:26] <MTecknology> is anybody in here extremely bored?
[03:27] <lubix> MTecknology, did you ever get that keyboard working
[03:27] <MTecknology> lubix, ya it was a BIOS thing
[03:27] <grzesiekP> hi
[03:27] <djm62> assez bored
[03:27] <squiggly> i'd like to lubix your assfole
[03:27] <MTecknology> lubix, you bored?
[03:27] <lubix> squiggly,
[03:27] <MTecknology> by bored, i mean EXTREMELY
[03:27] <lubix> that was uncalled for
[03:27] <grzesiekP> can I find somebody  using beryl?
[03:27] <lubix> grzesiekP, im using beryl
[03:28] <Music_Shuffle> Hai?
[03:28] <squiggly> where is chanserv
[03:28] <MTecknology> grzesiekP, i do, probably can't help
[03:28] <grzesiekP> what vc you need for this candy?
[03:28] <lubix> VC?
[03:28] <Music_Shuffle> VC?
[03:28] <squiggly> DCC SEND FAGGOTDETECTOR 0 0 0
[03:28] <Music_Shuffle> ...
[03:28] <grzesiekP> video card
[03:28] <lubix> any...
[03:28] <Music_Shuffle> grzesiekP, you should be fine with almost any really.
[03:28] <lubix> it is a bit complicated to set it up
[03:29] <MTecknology> grzesiekP, long as you use 6.10, troubles with 6.06
[03:29] <nix_ferret> I think he's too lazy to type video card
[03:29] <grzesiekP> GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x will do?
[03:29] <Music_Shuffle> Try it.
[03:29] <Music_Shuffle> I bet you can run it at least minimally.
[03:29] <lubix> you need AIGXL...
[03:29] <Music_Shuffle> With a 6800 I can run in total.
[03:29] <MTecknology> LjL, why the bans?
[03:29] <Music_Shuffle> AIGLX is default in Edgy.
[03:29] <LjL> Ubotu, tell MTecknology about exploit | MTecknology, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:29] <nix_ferret> Did I get banned?
[03:29] <nix_ferret> err, kicked
[03:29] <lubix> Music_Shuffle, i didnt have it installed by default
[03:29] <Music_Shuffle> LjL, do you have like...a keybinding for that or something?
[03:29] <Music_Shuffle> lubix, its default!
[03:30] <webmaren> LjL, how many people are you gonna ban
[03:30] <MTecknology> LjL, interesting... tought love
[03:30] <AfterDeath_> LjL: WAIT
[03:30] <Music_Shuffle> All the exploited ones.
[03:30] <AfterDeath_> you didn't make a redirecting ban
[03:30] <lubix> well i had to enable it first before it would let me use beryl
[03:30] <AfterDeath_> LjL: they won't get sent to the right channel
[03:30] <webmaren> LjL: ...
[03:30] <LjL> agh
[03:30] <ezenu> ubotu, tell ezenu about exploit
[03:30] <DBO> LjL, redirect bans buddy
[03:30] <LjL> ...
[03:30] <nix_ferret> Come on linksys don't fail me now...!
[03:30] <SoulChild> HEY How can i configure my sound devices in gnome ?
[03:30] <crimsun> SoulChild: by using System> Preferences> Sound
[03:31] <Music_Shuffle> SoulChild, System --> Preferences --> Sound?
[03:31] <_226> /usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[03:31] <_226> /usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
[03:31] <_226> /usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[03:31] <_226> hate it.
[03:31] <crimsun> _226: so generate the necessary locales.
[03:31] <grzesiekP> thank you guys, back to work, see you soon!
[03:31] <SoulChild> Music_Shuffle: hmm, i mean: i have two devices to choose there but i only want the OSS device.... how can i remove the alsa device
[03:31] <nix_ferret> !topic
[03:31] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[03:32] <Music_Shuffle> SoulChild, if you switch, you can just leave the ALSA one, can't you?
[03:32] <nix_ferret> Ok, what is this router problem
[03:32] <grzesiekP> this channel looks like one arm bandit ;o) bye for now
[03:32] <Sebboh> LjL,
[03:32] <Music_Shuffle> !exploit
[03:32] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[03:32] <Sebboh> what's this?  Are those non-idented users?
[03:32] <Music_Shuffle> nix_ferret, that was for you.
[03:32] <SoulChild> Music_Shuffle: Yes but the problem is, that my hotkeys don't work properly on the alsa device, and it won't be fixed unless Alsa is uninstalled...
[03:33] <nix_ferret> cool, thx
[03:33] <LjL> Sebboh: no, see Ubotu above
[03:33] <Music_Shuffle> And Sebboh could read that too :P
[03:33] <LjL> sorry for the mistake people
[03:33] <melon_> ok - i've been instructed to do: sudo make install <-- i get a response saying make: command not found.. (still new) - what's it mean 'n how can i fix it?
[03:33] <SoulChild> Music_Shuffle, coul'd it be dangerous if i remove the alsa packages
[03:33] <Music_Shuffle> SoulChild, no idea then, sorry. I've never removed it myself. >.>
[03:33] <SoulChild> okay thanks
[03:33] <sheri> how do i reinstall the grub
[03:33] <Music_Shuffle> !grub
[03:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:34] <webmaren> oh I figured it out now, somebody if screwing with their routers and so LjL is just trying to protect the people on the channel
[03:34] <melon_> lol - nm
[03:34] <nn> how do i switch io schedulers to deadline at runtime?
[03:35] <LjL> webmaren: and trying to make it less interesting for people to try the exploit in the first place
[03:35] <webmaren> ah
[03:35] <webmaren> i see clearly now
[03:35] <gaten> I'm having trouble connecting to a smaba share on my ubuntu server from my ubuntu desktop. i can connect from windows just fine. the problem is it wont accept my password, but ive set it up with smbpasswd on the server and tested it on windows and still no go. any thoughts?
[03:35] <nix_ferret> Is there a list of routers or something so I can see if mine is on it. I think I use 6667 for emule too
[03:36] <Sebboh> My client didn't mention any incoming DCC requests.  ...The irc client has to respond first, of course.  The initial DCC handshake goes over IRC protocol only.
[03:36] <LjL> Sebboh: there was no *real* DCC request
[03:36] <Music_Shuffle> nix_ferret, its a port exploit based on client.
[03:36] <kitche> nix_ferret: if you didn't get disconnected then your fine
[03:36] <Music_Shuffle> You're here. ;P
[03:36] <nix_ferret> schweet
[03:37] <vulcanius> ...i've had the same 3 emails in my inbox all month....
[03:37] <vulcanius> i feel so alone
[03:38] <Music_Shuffle> Its k, I get no mail either.
[03:38] <Music_Shuffle> Usually anyways.
[03:38] <gaten> send your email to a spam list, you'll feel real popular then
[03:38] <webmaren> i once stopped checking my email for like 2 mos
[03:38] <vulcanius> lol
[03:38] <webmaren> i had 123 messages
[03:38] <vulcanius> email is so 2006 anyways
[03:38] <IndyGunFreak> vulcanius,  so whats the new rage?
[03:38] <webmaren> i was like "whoa"
[03:39] <vulcanius> I think last I heard the clothing stores were trying to bring back snail mail
[03:39] <vulcanius> kinda like a retro style
[03:39] <webmaren> vuclanius: roflol
[03:39] <vulcanius> with eggshell envelopes
[03:39] <IndyGunFreak> !snail mail
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snail mail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <IndyGunFreak> thats crazy
[03:39] <webmaren> bwahahaha
[03:39] <vulcanius> yeah
[03:39] <webmaren> snail mail is so pathetic
[03:39] <Sebboh> LjL, fake ones are just irc CTCPs, too. =)  ..I can see how such a thing could be a problem, if the user's client accepts the request and tries to connect, and the bad guy specifies the same port the user is using for her irc connection (... the LOCAL port...) *AND* the router has fubar nat.  Heh.  Not bloody likely.
[03:39] <IndyGunFreak> it is.
[03:39] <webmaren> i got a letter from my host brother in Japan (I live in MD, USA)
[03:40] <Sebboh> Oh, there's 833 people in there.  I guess that that changes things..  Target rich environment. =P
[03:40] <baxter_kylie> can anyone tell me where I change the default program for a filetype in gnome/nautilus/firefox/etc ?
[03:40] <Music_Shuffle> !offtopic
[03:40] <webmaren> on like Dec 27
[03:40] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:40] <Music_Shuffle> ;P
[03:40] <LjL> Sebboh: it's not a problem with the *clients*, it's a problem with their routers. and it doesn't even have to be a CTCP
[03:40] <webmaren> it was dated Dec 1
[03:40] <LjL> but yeah we're badly offtopic
[03:40] <webmaren> i was like, damn
[03:40] <vulcanius> webmaren: lol, wasn't the suspense just killing you?
[03:40] <weem> godamnit wep just BE CRACKED
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:41] <gaten> baxter_kylie:  in nautilus, right click on the file and click on the "open with" tab
[03:41] <weem> im gonna kcik ur ass
[03:41] <webmaren> vulcanius: I wasn't actually expecting anything
[03:41] <LjL> !language | weem
[03:41] <ubotu> weem: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:41] <weem> :(
[03:41] <baxter_kylie> gaten: that changes it permanently?
[03:41] <weem> the a word...my bad
[03:41] <gaten> baxter_kylie:  it should yes
[03:41] <webmaren> vulcanius: I emailed him my resonse
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> weem, what makes you think wep must be cracked?
[03:41] <webmaren> vulcanius: Probably arrived about 3 minutes after i sent it
[03:41] <karat> I've got mplayer on my dapper kubuntu system, for some reason a lot of .wmv files won't play
[03:41] <karat> Is there a win32codec package or something?
[03:42] <weem> cus i need this key...so it must be :)
[03:42] <Sebboh> LjL, well something is missing from the story. *shrug*
[03:42] <webmaren> vulcanius: there's a comparision for ya
[03:42] <djm62> anyway, a couple of questions: has anyone found banshee to be (extremely, if I wasn't patient I'd kill the process thinking it had crashed) slow with ~1300 files, and how long does it take to update a few (4) albums on ipod (almost 50min here)?
[03:42] <vulcanius> lol
[03:42] <Music_Shuffle> 50 minutes?!
[03:42] <gaten> I'm having trouble connecting to a smaba share on my ubuntu server from my ubuntu desktop. i can connect from windows just fine. the problem is it wont accept my password, but ive set it up with smbpasswd on the server and tested it on windows and still no go. any thoughts?
[03:42] <Music_Shuffle> What's total size of the albums you're moving?
[03:43] <MTecknology> so, no extremely bored ppl?
[03:43] <thelubix> yes i am
[03:43] <thelubix> i want to jump
[03:43] <Music_Shuffle> I am, but we congregate in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:43] <Music_Shuffle> :D
[03:44] <MTecknology> thelubix, i need help setting up my server
[03:44] <webmaren> ciao going exclusively to offtopic
[03:44] <djm62> Music_Shuffle: they're being converted from .ogg too, but using gtkpod it takes a few minutes for an mp3-encoded album: not unusable, but makes me wonder if USB isn't at full speed
[03:44] <MTecknology> thelubix, just moved from windows and kept some things on my HD
[03:44] <thelubix> like what?
[03:44] <Music_Shuffle> gtkpod moves 1 album in ~3 minutes.
[03:44] <voraistos> Hello guys!(and girls, if applicable :) )
[03:44] <Music_Shuffle> Hi0,
[03:45] <MTecknology> thelubix, mysql database, web sites - 3 of em
[03:45] <thelubix> i should put up a website
[03:45] <thelubix> and complain on it
[03:45] <thelubix> no one would read it
[03:45] <djm62> Music_Shuffle: when I close banshee it gets to "The window "Banshee Music Player" is not responding."
[03:45] <karat> Is there nothing in ubuntu for mplayer w32codecs?
[03:45] <Music_Shuffle> thelubix, hush! ;P
[03:45] <MTecknology> thelubix, any help?
[03:46] <Music_Shuffle> karat, eh? There are...
[03:46] <Music_Shuffle> djm62, kill it? Lol.
[03:46] <karat> Music_Shuffle, where?
[03:46] <Music_Shuffle> !win32
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <Music_Shuffle> Err...
[03:46] <SeanPint> hey whats a good starter distro?
[03:46] <Music_Shuffle> !proprietary
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proprietary - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <thelubix> win32 is a API
[03:47] <Music_Shuffle> .../sigh.
[03:47] <nix_ferret> SeanPint, ubuntu
[03:47] <thelubix> Music_Shuffle, what do you want to know?
[03:47] <eimajenthat> Howdo.  Running Ubuntu Edgy Eft, and I just installed VMWare server.  I was going through the config script, and then it said it couldn't find the super-server.  Wants me to install inetd or xinetd.  I think I read somewhere that Edgy uses something snazzier than these now?  Is that correct?  And if so, how do I convince VMWare to use the snazzier thing?
[03:47] <thelubix> SeanPint, this one
[03:47] <Music_Shuffle> SeanPint, Ubuntu is pretty simple.
[03:47] <SeanPint> is it easy to install etc?
[03:47] <nix_ferret> I recommend 6.10
[03:47] <SeanPint> i got a crap old laptop i want to use it on
[03:47] <thelubix> i reccomdent 7.04 alpha
[03:47] <djm62> Music_Shuffle: not sure about doing that while connected to a removable disk with a mysterious database rather than a normal filesystem... I know it won't do any permanent harm but it's inelegant :-S
[03:47] <Music_Shuffle> SeanPint, IIRC, its something like 6 clicks + your name and computer name in total to install.
[03:47] <eimajenthat> SeanPint: if the laptop's slow, consider Xubuntu
[03:48] <MTecknology> thelubix, helping me out would help avoid the isolation feeling
[03:48] <Music_Shuffle> djm62, Lol. True.  Why use Banshee over the default and over Amarok and GTKpod?
[03:48] <Sebboh> LjL, ok, it seems that the affected routers are content aware: they are parsing the IRC stream.  That's why the client doesn't need to respond.  That's what I gather from the CVE, anyway..  *shrug* Back to work.
[03:48] <thelubix> try fluxbox
[03:48] <nix_ferret> I tried centos, rhel, etc, and ubuntu. ubuntu had the best h/w support, was easy to install and seemed easy for n00bs like me
[03:48] <SeanPint> its terrible, its only a old skool 1.1 celeron with 256 ram
[03:48] <thelubix> id say ubuntu is hands down the best linux distro about
[03:48] <ddaemon> Hello,
[03:48] <thelubix> SeanPint, youd be fine with fluxbox or xfce
[03:49] <djm62> Music_Shuffle: I'm going to look again at rhythmbox, but my (2G nano) ipod definitely wasn't working on it before
[03:49] <eimajenthat> SeanPint: 1.1 GHz?
[03:49] <voraistos> I want to set up a file server... on an already running server. The nfs shares part is not the problem. In fact i would like to add 2 discs(IDE) and make them work in one partition only (whatever the partition is). Thing is i dont know anything about raid, lvm, and what i should do.... (PS: there is no way i am reinstalling the system, and i would like to keep the existing data as well, if possible)
[03:49] <SeanPint> aye
[03:49] <ddaemon> I have a Lenovo X60s that hangs on startup when plugged into the dock
[03:49] <nix_ferret> ddaemon, so take it off the dock. Ohh!
[03:49] <Music_Shuffle> djm62, odd...really?
[03:49] <eimajenthat> SeanPint: That's not that slow.  I ran Ubuntu like a champ on a PIII 750MHz, with hacking it up
[03:49] <ddaemon> nix ferret, that's not a solution, but it works
[03:50] <nix_ferret> lol
[03:50] <thelubix> anyone want help?
[03:50] <thelubix> ill have some
[03:50] <ddaemon> it hangs when checking all file systems (fsck)
[03:50] <harry> !nvidia
[03:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:50] <eimajenthat> thelubix: What's the thing edgy has instead of inetd?
[03:50] <djm62> Music_Shuffle: ah, whatever I changed to get auto-mounting has succeeded in making it show in rhythmbox.  I may look silly now, but I'll have tunes tomorrow!  thanks a lot for the advice
[03:50] <ddaemon> i think it has something to do with the fact that the dock has the CDROM drive in it
[03:50] <thelubix> inetd?
[03:50] <e\ectro_> whats the package in the package manager that is used to install all the common apps for ubuntu
[03:50] <ddaemon> eima, it's call upstart
[03:51] <nix_ferret> ddaemon, does the lenovo hang when you boot docked, when you dock while it's on, or both?
[03:51] <Tomcat_> eimajenthat: edgy doesn't need inetd because it runs services as daemons.
[03:51] <ddaemon> just when I boot while docked
[03:51] <kitche> e\ectro_: ubuntu-desktop
[03:51] <Music_Shuffle> djm62, GL :D
[03:51] <thelubix> kubuntu-desktop
[03:51] <e\ectro_> kitche: I thought it was like accessorize
[03:51] <e\ectro_> or something
[03:51] <voraistos> #kubuntu is somewhere else pal
[03:52] <nix_ferret> ddaemon, did you try changing your bios settings to not recognize the dock CD as a 'bootable' device?
[03:52] <eimajenthat> Tomcat_: Cool, how do I tell VMware server?
[03:52] <kitche> eimajenthat: upstart is just the init system
[03:52] <Tomcat_> eimajenthat: What does it want to know?
[03:52] <Tomcat_> eimajenthat: You can install inetd if you need it.
[03:52] <djaka> I just did a fresj install of ubuntu 6.10 and it never prompted me for a root password so how do I change it
[03:53] <ddaemon> nix_ferret, I don't think that's the problem because it's already booting into ubuntu when it hangs
[03:53] <kitche> djaka: ubuntu doesn't use root
[03:53] <eimajenthat> kitche: Thanks, I think that's what I was thinking of.  Obviously I was thinking of the wrong thing, but at least now it has a name.
[03:53] <kitche> !sudo|djaka
[03:53] <ubotu> djaka: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:53] <SeanPint> just looking at xubuntu, looks alright
[03:53] <voraistos> pretty slow for gtk softs though
[03:53] <djaka> Ok well does that mean I can not use graphical config tools as they prompt for a root password
[03:54] <thelubix> SeanPint, you should save up and buy a mac
[03:54] <ddaemon> but it's worth toying around in the bios.  I'll check
[03:54] <eimajenthat> Tomcat_: http://pastey.net/4121
[03:54] <reiki> ok who understands UUIDs? I'm trying to get an understanding. If , for example, /dev/hda1 has a UUID of 12345-1234 and then you physically move that drive so it's /dev/hdb1, the UUID still points to it? I don't understand what mechanism allows this to happen
[03:54] <SeanPint> i cant afford a mac
[03:54] <Music_Shuffle> djaka, for those, your user password is your 'root password'.
[03:54] <voraistos> djaka: you can type sudo passwd to change the root password
[03:54] <Nighteye> sup
[03:54] <nix_ferret> SeanPint, you should save up and buy and IBM/Clone and run OSX.. :p
[03:54] <SeanPint> was only 50 quid for this laptop so cant complain :D
[03:54] <djaka> ok thanks guys
[03:55] <Tomcat_> reiki: UUIDs are set when you format the partition... it's like a file on your partition that can be found and 100% correctly identify the partition.
[03:55] <reiki> Tomcat_,  ok... but WHERE on the partition is the UUID information ?
[03:55] <Music_Shuffle> ?
[03:55] <Music_Shuffle> UUID information like the kind in /etc/fstab?
[03:56] <eimajenthat> Tomcat_:  I'd rather not install it if I don't need it, but I don't know enough to work around it
[03:56] <nix_ferret> Is there a way to get the 'recovery' mode to require a user login instead of bootinf strait to root?
[03:56] <un_operateur> reiki, a UUID helps if you want to keep that as a volume label but change the physical device e.g. replace /dev/hda
[03:56] <reiki> un_operateur, I understand that part. I am trying to find out HOW
[03:56] <voraistos> anybody knows anything about raid and lvm ?
[03:56] <LameBMX> nix_ferret, you can passwd protect alternative boot options
[03:56] <Music_Shuffle> !raid
[03:56] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:56] <Music_Shuffle> ubotu clearly does :P
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clearly does :P - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <Tomcat_> reiki: In the filesystem header.
[03:57] <LameBMX> nix_ferret, then they would need a pass to goto recovery mode
[03:57] <voraistos> seen that already, but it doesnt help a lot
[03:57] <voraistos> Music_Shuffle
[03:57] <un_operateur> reiki, the UUIDs are just synlinks to devices -- thats all -- you find them in the /dev/disk directory
[03:57] <Music_Shuffle> :(
[03:57] <reiki> Tomcat_, so... not someplace where I could go look at it
[03:57] <Tomcat_> reiki: At the beginning of the filesystem there is some info, like what FS (ext3, ntfs, reiser3/4, ...), where tree information is stored, etc...
[03:57] <reiki> un_operateur, the UUID has to be somewhere other than in those symlinks
[03:57] <pauldaoust> hey, folks, does anybody know how to determine the block size of a partition when its superblock is hosed?
[03:57] <crimsun> reiki: see the source code for vol_id(8).
[03:57] <Tomcat_> reiki: Sure you can... ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid
[03:58] <Tomcat_> reiki: Or vol_id, yes.
[03:58] <un_operateur> reiki, have a look for yourself
[03:58] <nix_ferret> LameBMX, I did that. It just doesn't seen too secure, but if someone has physical access your over anyway.
[03:58] <alex-weej> reiki: the UUID of a partition never changes, unlike it's kernel-assigned name (e.g. sdc4, hdb3)
[03:58] <voraistos> Well, i suppose i wil have to experiment and make a wiki entry myslef.......
[03:58] <pauldaoust> (I want to restore the superblock from its backup, but I have to figure out the block size too, so I know what offset the backup is at.)
[03:58] <reiki> alex-weej, wrong. I have CHANGED the UUID of a partition
[03:58] <Tomcat_> reiki: UUIDs are also made to be different between computers all over the world, so if you had access to all disks in the world at the same time you could theoretically identify them by UUID.
[03:58] <dolphin> i am using gaim and cannot get msn instant messager to work, does anyone know what i need to do to use msn messanger on gaim
[03:58] <alex-weej> reiki: never changes under normal use. sheesh!
[03:59] <alex-weej> reiki: that's the whole point of it, swap your disks around controllers and linux won't boot if you use /dev/sd* identifiers in your fstab
[03:59] <voraistos> dolphin: works out of the box pal
[03:59] <un_operateur> Tomcat_, thats supposing a lot of things, but there is no guarantee that two computers will not produce the same UUID
[03:59] <alex-weej> reiki: whereas with UUIDs, as long as the disk is in your system somewhere, it'll work :)
[03:59] <kitche> dolphin: if it's not working hten MS played with their network again
[03:59] <Nighteye> secret
[03:59] <seb-> how activate sleep mode ?
[04:00] <reiki> alex-weej, yes I understand WHY they are there. I am just trying to understand more about how they work. What "ties" tehm to a particular file system
[04:00] <dolphin> thanks that may be it
[04:00] <Tomcat_> un_operateur: That's why I said in theory. I skimmed the UUID standard, and it's supposed to work... but not guaranteed. :)
[04:00] <un_operateur> reiki, IIRC is it udev that controls the creation and linking of UUIDs -- and you are under no obligation to use them
[04:00] <LameBMX> nix_ferret, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto ... 1-2-2-e has info about locking out alternative boot options in grub
[04:00] <Tomcat_> reiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_Unique_Identifier <--- standard is linked and explained there
[04:01] <crimsun> you could, of course, heed what we've been saying regarding vol_id(8)'s source code...
[04:01] <reiki> so if I understand this correctly... if I switch things around physically... and I get confused about which UUID belongs where. I can mount the partition, go to it, and use vol_id to see what the UUID is?
[04:01] <pauldaoust> does anyone have any idea how to determine the blocksize on an ext2 partition when the superblock is hosed?
[04:01] <Tomcat_> reiki: Yes.
[04:01] <reiki> Tomcat_, I read that. I understood parts of it :)
[04:01] <crimsun> reiki: sure. vol_id -u foo.
[04:02] <LameBMX> nix_ferret, yea physical access is hard to avoid .. best you can do is make it a pain in the bugger for them .. unless you feel like putting your comp in a save and entering in a safe combination everytime you need to put in a cd or hardboot your computer
[04:02] <Asc> Does that mean I can delete the UUID things in /boot/grub/*lst and /etc/fstab, replace them with the old /dev/hd[whatever]  and not break anything?
[04:02] <crimsun> Asc: correct.
[04:02] <reiki> crimsun, can you do like.... vol_id -u /dev/hda1 even if /dev/hda1 is not mounted?
[04:02] <reiki> or must it be mounted?
[04:02] <LameBMX> nix cuz they can always livecd .. and chroot into your fs and have root that way
[04:02] <Tomcat_> reiki: Yes.
[04:02] <crimsun> Asc: unless of course you have a situation that -necessitates- mounting by uuid, in which case you'll find yourself in an eye-stabbity mood.
[04:02] <Tomcat_> reiki: No need to mount it.
[04:03] <nix_ferret> I just put a bunch of rare earth maganets in the door jamb
[04:03] <reiki> ok.... starting to make sense. The actual UUID is in the file system header. Not like in a file or something
[04:03] <Tomcat_> reiki: Doesn't really matter if it's in a file or in the fs header... at least not technically.
[04:04] <reiki> Tomcat_,  ok.... but trying to understand if there's a way to "harvest" all of the UUIDs from a system. I would do that with vol_id... right?
[04:04] <Tomcat_> reiki: Or by using "ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid", yes.
[04:05] <Tomcat_> Because for vol_id, you need to know what partitions exist.
[04:05] <reiki> I ask this because right now I have a swap partition that apparently doesn't have a UUID according to /dev/disk/by-uuid, blkid, whatever
[04:05] <reiki> and even if I don't want to reference a swap partition by UUID, it can still HAVE one.
[04:06] <Tomcat_> reiki: Did you hibernate to the swap partition recently?
[04:06] <robtp> can anyone help me with mounting a hfs+ partition user-readable?
[04:06] <reiki> I don't hibernate
[04:06] <Tomcat_> Mh.
[04:06] <reiki> in fact I have not yet seen my swap in use. I have 2 gigs of ram
[04:07] <flyinghippo> Is it possible to create a script file in Ubuntu/Linux?  (Similar to a DOS Batch Files)
[04:07] <Tomcat_> reiki: Yeah, with 1 or 2 gig of ram you rarely need swap.
[04:07] <seb-> reiki: how suspend/hibernate? right clicking on 'battery charge monitor' doesn't have those options
[04:07] <Tomcat_> flyinghippo: Absolutely, in a variety of languages.
[04:07] <reiki> and if I do vol_id -u /dev/hdb5 (the swap partition) I get Error open volume
[04:08] <crimsun> requires root privileges.
[04:08] <flyinghippo> Tomcat_: What about a Terminal script?
[04:08] <n0cturnal_> since installing 6.10 onto my laptop the network adapter seems to keep dieing the moment I put more than about 10kb/sec of traffic through it... only way to get it back is to reboot.. any ideas?
[04:08] <reiki> ahh
[04:08] <seb-> What panel icon has suspend/hibernate options?
[04:08] <Tomcat_> flyinghippo: Create a new file, put "#!/usr/bin/bash" in the first line, then put in all the commands you want to use... make the file executable, and you're done.
[04:08] <Tomcat_> flyinghippo: Terminal script?
[04:08] <Tomcat_> n0cturnal_: Check dmesg/syslog output.
[04:08] <un_operateur> Tomcat_, I think he means "shell script"
[04:08] <reiki> crimsun, sudo vol_id -u /dev/hdb5 still gives me that error
[04:08] <Tomcat_> seb-: gnome-power-manager
[04:08] <flyinghippo> Tomcat_: A script that will carry out commands through terminal.
[04:08] <crimsun> reiki: and /dev/hdb5 is valid?
[04:09] <Tomcat_> flyinghippo: Yeah, that's what I meant.
[04:09] <reiki> yes
[04:09] <varsendaggr> hey does knoppix have ntfs r/wr   function?
[04:09] <crimsun> reiki: what does fdisk -l say about /dev/hdb ?
[04:09] <flyinghippo> I can't enter the "d" character in terminal, so I'm going to have to resort to scripting.
[04:09] <n0cturnal_> NETDEV_TX_BUSY returned.. is the only message I get. any ideas?
[04:09] <morphwvutuba> has anybody here ever used yahoo game channel?
[04:09] <seb-> Tomcat_: thanks
[04:09] <pauldaoust> morphwvutuba: ages ago. (but not with Linux)
[04:10] <Tomcat_> n0cturnal_: I can only suggest to test the components singled out... try the network card somewhere else, try the access point somewhere else, etc.
[04:10] <ddaemon> so I installed ubuntu desktop, but I'm thinking about removing things like open office.  This forces me to remove the package "ubuntu-desktop".  Is this a problem?
[04:10] <n0cturnal_> tis a laptop, not wireless
[04:10] <reiki> crimsun: ack!  I was supposed to be typing sdb5
[04:10] <morphwvutuba> paul - it used to work with linux, now they're telling me i have to use IE & windows
[04:10] <reiki> I'll try again :)
[04:10] <Tomcat_> ddaemon: If you upgrade it will be... otherwise, no.
[04:10] <un_operateur> reiki, have you checked your /etc/fstab -- mine has a UUID for the swap partition
[04:10] <Tomcat_> n0cturnal_: Your wired connection is dying? o_O
[04:11] <n0cturnal_> yah
[04:11] <pauldaoust> morphwvutuba: poop. Well, maybe you can have success tricking Yahoo by installing the User Agent Switcher extension for Firefox
[04:11] <seb-> Tomcat_: WHERE is gnome-power-manager in the maze of choice to "Add To Panel"? I can't find it :/
[04:11] <ddaemon> Tomcat_, upgade meaning to feisty?
[04:11] <Tomcat_> ddaemon: You should reinstall ubuntu-desktop before upgrading. Apart from that, there won't be problems *probably*.
[04:11] <DrBanzai> I have a .bin/.toc set of files, that I need to burn to CD using an ATAPI burner...possible?
[04:11] <Tomcat_> ddaemon: Yeah, to feisty.
[04:11] <crimsun> DrBanzai: perhaps cdrdao + bchunk ?
[04:11] <morphwvutuba> pauldaoust: i knew nothing of that extension
[04:11] <reiki> un_operateur, yeah I'm trying to strqaighten up after cloning /dev/hda1 to /dev/sda1 and I have a feeling it's using the swap on /dev/hda5 as the swap file
[04:11] <n0cturnal_> Tomcat_: was working fine in dapper, in edgy its just crappin itself
[04:12] <crimsun> don't remember offhand if cdrdao handles tocs.
[04:12] <ddaemon> Tomcat, what if I put "alternate" on instead, could I then do an upgrade to feisty?
[04:12] <Tomcat_> seb-: It will be automatically added if you run gnome-power-manager and if it is configured to show up. But you can suspend/hibernate from the logout menu as well.
[04:12] <ddaemon> seamlessly?
[04:12] <Tomcat_> n0cturnal_: Weird. :\
[04:12] <DrBanzai> crimsun, Well, when I go google for bchunk, it only mentions .bin and .cue files, does that matter?
[04:12] <un_operateur> reiki, you should update fstab to reflect the changes, if you want them made i.e.
[04:12] <Tomcat_> ddaemon: Nope. For upgrades you *need* ubuntu-desktop.
[04:12] <reiki> I know I can just change fstab to use the device names like /dev/sdb5 for the swap, but I want to do this with UUIDs because I think that's how it's SUPPOSED to work
[04:12] <nix_ferret> Anyone know the acpi commands to dim/brighten the lcd on a laptop?
[04:13] <crimsun> DrBanzai: you can use cdrdao according to its man page.
[04:13] <morphwvutuba> thanks for the tip, paul
[04:13] <tyme> will ubuntu create a kde/gnome kicker like the new opensuse 10.2
[04:13] <tyme> ?
[04:13] <ddaemon> alright, Tomcat, good to know
[04:13] <defiant> Does anyone know of a way (free) to run Office XP? Along with some other windows aps? I have wine installed but it is just not cutting it.
[04:13] <crimsun> DrBanzai: "Instead of a toc-file a cue file (used by a famous DOS/Windows  mastering tool) may be used. See the CUE FILES section for more details."
[04:13] <pauldaoust> morphwvutuba: no prob. give it a shot; doesn't work for Yahoo Music, but it works for other sites that 'require' IE. In some cases Firefox works better than IE on IE-specific sites.
[04:13] <Tomcat_> ddaemon: As long as you're not upgrading, there's no problem.
[04:13] <DrBanzai> crimsun, Okay, but I also read that cdrdao won't work with ATAPI burners, only SCSI, and I had no luck getting scsi emulation to work
[04:13] <Owner> hey, anyone know if the new hybrid drives coming out early in 2007 will be compatible with existing systems? for example, will I be able to replace my laptop's hd with a hybrid drive when they come out?
[04:14] <crimsun> DrBanzai: it works fine w/ atapi.
[04:14] <Tomcat_> Owner: hybrid what?
[04:14] <DrBanzai> crimsun, Shiney, I'll give it a shot.  Thanks!
[04:14] <un_operateur> Owner, errm, off-topic
[04:14] <morphwvutuba> pauldaoust:  i've noticed that, both at home and with some intranet .asp pages we've got at work.
[04:14] <nix_ferret> defiant, you might be stuck making a virtual machine to run that. That is M$'s big selling point - they make it hard to run otherwise.
[04:14] <pauldaoust> morphwvutuba: :)
[04:14] <tyme> will ubuntu create a kde/gnome kicker like the new opensuse 10.2
[04:15] <maddash> does anyone here use openbox alone with x-serv?
[04:15] <seb-> Tomcat_: i ran logout menu and gnome-power-managment....neither had option to suspend visible!? sorry to ask
[04:15] <Owner> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_drive
[04:15] <defiant> nix_ferret, Is there a tutorial or something to do that?
[04:15] <gaten> I'm having trouble connecting to a smaba share on my ubuntu server from my ubuntu desktop. i can connect from windows just fine. the problem is it wont accept my password, but ive set it up with smbpasswd on the server and tested it on windows and still no go. any thoughts?
[04:15] <kitche> maddash: used to
[04:15] <Tomcat_> seb-: What are you missing? Suspend can be enabled easily, but hibernate *should* be there.
[04:15] <seb-> Tomcat_: well....logout menu has Hibernate but not Suspend
[04:15] <Tomcat_> seb-: Ah, alright... wait.
[04:16] <nix_ferret> defiant,  use vmware for linux
[04:16] <ddaemon> Tomcat, I like to stay current, so I'll probably keep the ubuntu-desktop package on there
[04:16] <maddash> kitche: what happened?
[04:16] <Tomcat_> seb-: Prefs => Power Management... turn some option to "suspend", then change it back... it should ask you if you want to enable suspend.
[04:16] <kitche> maddash: nothing openbox will make it look like nothing was there but if you right click a menu should pop up
[04:16] <Tomcat_> ddaemon: Probably a good idea yeah.... I don't use f-spot either, but I just keep it.
[04:17] <reiki> when I just type "mount" ... should it show swap partitions mounted?
[04:17] <defiant> nix_ferret thank you very much
[04:17] <kitche> reiki: no swap doesn't show up in mount
[04:17] <nix_ferret> defiant, you'd need a copy of XP to set it up
[04:17] <nix_ferret> np
[04:17] <reiki> kitche, whew! :)  thanks
[04:17] <Tomcat_> Owner: They are ATA drives, so they will be compatible.
[04:17] <seb-> Tomcat_: yay! you got it! thanks!
[04:17] <ddaemon> Tomcat, f-spot?
[04:18] <Tomcat_> ddaemon: Foto manager
[04:18] <Owner> Tomcat_: sweet!
[04:18] <ddaemon> ah
[04:18] <defiant> nix_ferrt, I have an OEM version. Will that work?
[04:18] <BigBamBo> Hello all
[04:18] <maddash> kitche: I meant, why did you "use to"?
[04:18] <Bradaphraser> hello
[04:18] <Tomcat_> Owner: Sounds pretty good actually... never heard of that.
[04:19] <maddash> kitche: how'd you get startx to run automatically?
[04:19] <maddash> kitche: and did you use gdm/kdm?
[04:19] <nix_ferret> defiant, It should, find a keygen if you don't have a key
[04:19] <kitche> maddash: I use e17 now
[04:19] <ddaemon> nix_ferret, I'm updating my lenovo bios (it was madly out of date) and i just thought you should know that it is wildly beeping at me...is that good?
[04:19] <Bradaphraser> out of curiosity, my compy insists I only have 100 MB, when I know I have 20 Gig
[04:19] <ddaemon> :)
[04:19] <losmon> hello
[04:19] <Bradaphraser> I've tried re-installing while formatting harddrive
[04:19] <Owner> anyone have a Thinkpad Z61t>
[04:19] <loderunner> X-Chat isn't letting me join different channels
[04:19] <Bradaphraser> and it just laughs at me
[04:19] <Owner> ?
[04:19] <defiant> nix_ferret. I have tons of those, THANKS VERY MUCH. i will get to work on it now,.
[04:19] <nix_ferret> np
[04:20] <aoirthoir> I LOVE UBUNTU!
[04:20] <loderunner> neither the gui nor /join #blah works
[04:20] <Bradaphraser> "You only have 100MB, idiot.  Why are you trying to install anything?"
[04:20] <losmon> how can see my cpu usage & ram & uptime and other useful things on my desktop?
[04:20] <dosnlinux> can wma files (after all the codecs are installed) be burned to an audio cd?
[04:20] <Tomcat_> Owner: They might not work perfectly in Linux though... but that will be fixed pretty soon I guess.
[04:20] <Bradaphraser> I think I just need to reformat my hard drive manually, but I have no idea how to do that
[04:20] <maddash> Owner: I've got a T43, if that helps...
[04:20] <BigBamBo> does any one know if there is a active effort to get on the fly rotation forking for tablets
[04:20] <Tomcat_> losmon: Either using gdesklets (Google) or by adding System Monitor to your panels.
[04:21] <un_operateur> losmon, adesktlets, gdesklets, gkrellm. conky, etc
[04:21] <losmon> Thank you
[04:21] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, use fdisk on a floppy or dare I say it, a winxp cd.
[04:21] <Tomcat_> losmon: Or using gkrellm or something.
[04:21] <losmon> which is the best?
[04:21] <Bradaphraser> ugh
[04:21] <loderunner> again, does anyone know why I can't join different channels?  Neither the GUI nor /join #blah works
[04:21] <Owner> I've orderd a Z61t and I'm hoping the screen brightness on the wxga is good enough
[04:21] <Bradaphraser> I hate Windows
[04:21] <loderunner> using Xchat
[04:21] <losmon> and which needs the less cpu usage to work?
[04:21] <Bradaphraser> I guess if that's the only way...
[04:21] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, what type do u need it to be?
[04:21] <kitche> loderunner: you sure you can't what does your status page say?
[04:21] <nix_ferret> fat or ext3?
[04:22] <Bradaphraser> I'm just wanting my compy to run ubuntu
[04:22] <Bradaphraser> even xubuntu, and I'll be happy
[04:22] <Tomcat_> loderunner: Any output from xchat?
[04:22] <Bradaphraser> but it says I have less space than I know I have
[04:22] <loderunner> kitche: status page?
[04:22] <cypruser> Whenever I get try to install Windows XP on VM Player, VM Player always crashes and I get a strange message about reloading the trash. How do I fix this problem?
[04:22] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, ubuntu will format it on install
[04:22] <nix_ferret> just boot live
[04:22] <kitche> loderunner: when you first connect that is the status page
[04:22] <Owner> maddash: do you have the 15"?
[04:22] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:22] <maddash> Owner: yep
[04:22] <Bradaphraser> when I tried that before, it said I only had 100 MB
[04:22] <Bradaphraser> am I looking at the wrong place?
[04:22] <loderunner> nothing unusual
[04:22] <Owner> maddash: how's the weight?
[04:23] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, is your 'puter an HP or Compaq?
[04:23] <loderunner> hmm
[04:23] <un_operateur> Tomcat_, why did you associate gdesklets with google up there?
[04:23] <loderunner> I just managed to join ##unavailable
[04:23] <Bradaphraser> a good ol' fashioned eMachine
[04:23] <loderunner> I guess that's progress?  lol
[04:23] <loderunner> trying to get to ##java
[04:23] <Bradaphraser> so it's an expensive paperweight, I know
[04:23] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, I think even with them you have to get it to blow away the firsy partition
[04:23] <kitche> loderunner: you have to be registered to join it
[04:23] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, they put a recovery volume on there
[04:23] <loderunner> wtf?
[04:24] <loderunner> ok then...
[04:24] <loderunner> admittedly, I don't use IRC a lot
[04:24] <maddash> Owner: it's like your average college textbook (lighter in most cases)...you can get the official numbers online ( I think it's ~5.6 lbs)
[04:24] <nix_ferret> e-machines are ok
[04:24] <Bradaphraser> so, what should be my next move?
[04:24] <kitche> loderunner: /msg nickserv help register
[04:25] <Mathew> How do i upgrade to Firefox 2?
[04:25] <nix_ferret> when you booted live did you tell it (the second option, me thinks) the erase the whole drive or just the first partition?
[04:25] <kitche> Mathew: you on dapper?
[04:25] <Owner> maddash: did ubuntu install without trouble?
[04:25] <Bradaphraser> I've been trying all day
[04:25] <Mathew> ketche: yes
[04:25] <Tomcat_> un_operateur: Because he needs a special gdesklet to get system info... I'd use Google to find that out. Or maybe just the gdesklets interface...
[04:25] <Bradaphraser> I've selected each, at some time Today
[04:25] <kitche> !backports|Mathew
[04:25] <ubotu> Mathew: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[04:25] <Bradaphraser> I even went so far as to try the alternate install
[04:25] <loderunner> thnx
[04:25] <Bradaphraser> or whatever that text-based install is called
[04:25] <kitche> Mathew: Firefox 2.0 is in dapper-backports
[04:25] <un_operateur> Tomcat_, ahh right ok
[04:26] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, I would go so far as to say that a BIOS update may be in order.
[04:26] <Bradaphraser> hmm
[04:26] <CheyenneD> Where do i Themes?
[04:26] <Bradaphraser> so, how would I go about doing that?
[04:26] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, check your bios and see if 2 partions are in there.
[04:26] <maddash> Owner: yep. I had to do it with the standard (not server) install, though, b/c at the time I need wireless support right out of the box. Are you considering installing Ubuntu on the Z61?
[04:26] <morphwvutuba> pauldaoust:  dangit, user agent switcher works as far as the browser check is concerned, but it wants Java, and i can't seem to get past that
[04:26] <DrBanzai> crimsun, It looks like that work.  Thanks again!
[04:26] <DrBanzai> works, even
[04:26] <un_operateur> Mathew, I'd download and install firefox from mozilla.org -- the debian/ubuntu firefox happens to be different to mozilla's
[04:27] <Owner> maddash: yes
[04:27] <Bradaphraser> is there a button I should hit to bring up bios?  Or is it hit-and-miss?
[04:27] <CheyenneD> Where do I get themes?
[04:27] <maddash> Owner: I recommend this site: http://forums.thinkpads.com   . it helped me quite a lot along the way
[04:27] <_226> yey for mplayer -vo aa porno......
[04:27] <nix_ferret> I'm kind of just guessing, but ubuntu might not be "seeing" the who hard drive b/c the bios is not supported.
[04:27] <un_operateur> Bradaphraser, look at what your POST screen says -- it usually has a note on the side/bottom saying which key to press
[04:27] <nix_ferret> whole*
[04:27] <Owner> maddash: yeah, i've been browsing that site. its pretty good.
[04:27] <Bradaphraser> hmm
[04:27] <Tomcat_> CheyenneD: For what? Gnome: art.gnome.org
[04:27] <Bradaphraser> I've got a boot menu
[04:27] <nix_ferret> I imagine the pc is old?
[04:28] <Bradaphraser> that's not what I'm looking for
[04:28] <Bradaphraser> yeah, at least 3 years, I think
[04:28] <un_operateur> Bradaphraser, much before the boot menu -- right after you power up
[04:28] <Bradaphraser> damn
[04:28] <nix_ferret> Hit f2 or esc or something
[04:28] <Bradaphraser> it just has a white splash screen
[04:28] <Bradaphraser> esc got me the boot menu
[04:28] <nix_ferret> slowly tap it after the num lock key lights up
[04:28] <Bradaphraser> I'll try F2
[04:28] <maddash> Owner: word to the wise, however: the default standard install is slow as hell (primarily b/c of gnome). I recommend installing Xubuntu, or, if you have an wired connection available, to go with the "server" setup
[04:28] <un_operateur> Bradaphraser, POST - Power on Self Test -- the stage at which the BIOS detects CPU, memory. peripherals etc
[04:29] <Bradaphraser> aha!
[04:29] <Owner> maddash: why so slow?
[04:29] <Bradaphraser> BIOS!
[04:29] <nix_ferret> All, is what I'm saying seem right? About the bios and all?
[04:29] <maddash> Owner: gnome. and other misc. garbage.
[04:29] <nix_ferret> Is it amibios or american megatrends?
[04:29] <alienseer23> soundhelp, my system recognizes my card, but I get "could not open resource for writing" when I try to test sound with gnome (was trying to get 5.1 audio working, don't know what I did to get this)
[04:29] <Bradaphraser> sys mem 390MB
[04:29] <Tomcat_> nix_ferret: Well, it's sometimes F10 or Del :)
[04:29] <Owner> maddash: I do like the leanness of xubuntu, so I will probably go that route
[04:29] <maddash> Owner: the default install uses nautilus as the file manager and metacity as the window manager
[04:30] <BigBamBo> do you know if there is one of those for toshiba
[04:30] <nix_ferret> Tomcat_, I mean about ubuntu not seeing his whole drive
[04:30] <maddash> Owner: go give it a shot. just be careful when installing your bootloader.
[04:30] <Bradaphraser> it says PhoenixBIOS Steup Utility
[04:30] <Mathew> un_operateur: i downloaded Firefox 2 from Mozilla, but i just have a folder on my desktop now
[04:31] <Owner> maddash: Yeah, I keep a live disc handy so I can fdisk in case I screw up the bootloader install
[04:31] <Tomcat_> nix_ferret: Maybe... not too experiences with this either... I'd need to get my hands on the machine.
[04:31] <maddash> Owner: I've had over a dozen mishaps with my master boot record, but each time was able to restore it with a backed up version via a Knoppix liveCD (and the "dd" utility)
[04:31] <nix_ferret> How big does the bios say your hd is Bradaphraser ?
[04:31] <un_operateur> Mathew, you'll need to extract the package to a location -- mozilla recommends /opt
[04:31] <maddash> Owner: I use grub, it's quite handy
[04:31] <Bradaphraser> system memory 640 KB
[04:31] <Owner> maddash: is grub the standard for ubuntu?
[04:31] <Bradaphraser> extended 390 MB
[04:32] <Bradaphraser> is the hard drive size listed somewhere else?
[04:32] <Bradaphraser> I see the primary master
[04:32] <Tomcat_> Owner: Yes.
[04:32] <maddash> Owner: for breezy (which is what I installed), you've got to choose between LILO and GRUB
[04:32] <maddash> Owner: could be the same deal w/Dapper and Edgy
[04:32] <un_operateur> Mathew, log on as root, at a terminal -- sudo -i  -- and then type this out -- cd /opt; tar zxf ~/firefox*tar.gz
[04:32] <Owner> maddash: cool. I will be installing edgy
[04:32] <Tomcat_> I've never chosen between lilo and grub in any Ubuntu version :)
[04:32] <reiki> I don't recall seeing any mention of Lilo when installing Edgy
[04:33] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, that's your mammories (RAM)
[04:33] <Bradaphraser> haha
[04:33] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:33] <__mikem> I have a question. Does the fact that I can't order edgy CD's from shipit for free have anything to do with shuttleworth not having the money to fund it
[04:33] <Bradaphraser> where does it say my drive space, then?
[04:33] <Tomcat_> __mikem: No.
[04:33] <un_operateur> Mathew, you'll then need to update the firefox link -- mv /usr/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefox.bak; ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox
[04:34] <__mikem> Then WHy do I have to buy edgy cd's
[04:34] <nix_ferret> look around in the menu for hard drives
[04:34] <un_operateur> reiki, Edgy uses grub
[04:34] <jp> Is there anyone here that can give me some pointers on Warty backports?
[04:34] <Bradaphraser> it just says main advanced security
[04:34] <nix_ferret> You're not going to brake anything.
[04:34] <Bradaphraser> etc etc etc
[04:34] <Tomcat_> __mikem: They want to push Ubuntu dapper (6.06), because it's the most stable version. So they don't give away edgy CDs for free.
[04:34] <maddash> Owner: dapper has LTS....just an FYI
[04:34] <reiki> un_operateur, yes I know... I have 2 installs of Edgy on this machine :)
[04:34] <nix_ferret> k, go main and what do you get?
[04:34] <Bradaphraser> in primary master lists my pretty hard drive
[04:35] <un_operateur> jp, errm, warty eh? ok, whats the question?
[04:35] <nix_ferret> there u go. How big does it say?
[04:35] <__mikem> oh, so when Fiesty comes out, will that be free?
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[04:35] <un_operateur> !ops
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[04:35] <Tomcat_> !feds
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about feds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <Tomcat_> Thx Madpilot.
[04:35] <maddash> 0wn3d.
[04:35] <__mikem> Horray for Madpilot our hero
[04:35] <Erb_> When I play a local video in Firefox (via File > Open file), Firefox crashes.  I have launched Firefox from terminal to see what the error is when it crashes, it is:  Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[04:35] <nix_ferret> Gotta love that chanserv
[04:36] <Bradaphraser> it doesn't say, unless I'm looking in the wrong place
[04:36] <nix_ferret> sneaky
[04:36] <Bradaphraser> maybe 8.455 Gig
[04:36] <maddash> Owner: oh, if you have an ntfs partition, be sure to defrag before resizing the partitions
[04:36] <element43> how does one go about getting multiple sounds to play in ubuntu?
[04:36] <Bradaphraser> when I change it to "user"
[04:36] <jp> I've been trying to put some backports into my /etc/apt/sources.list and every one says it's a malformed line :p
[04:36] <genius314> Hey can anyone help me configure my resolution? Nothing I try works.
[04:36] <Owner> maddash: how come?
[04:36] <nix_ferret> No, it should be on auto
[04:36] <varsendaggr> hey can i mount an ipod in knoppix
[04:36] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:36] <Bradaphraser> I changed it from auto
[04:36] <un_operateur> jp, can you pastebin your sources.list
[04:36] <Bradaphraser> is it part of the huge name?
[04:36] <un_operateur> !paste | jp
[04:36] <ubotu> jp: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:37] <Sebboh> What is this, EFnet? :)
[04:37] <nix_ferret> The main page didn't list your hd size?
[04:37] <nix_ferret> or does it now?
[04:37] <Bradaphraser> no, it doesn't
[04:37] <reiki> ok... this may be my last piece of UUID madness... blkid now shows all partitions and their UUID EXCEPT for /dev/sda5 which blkid shows like this : /dev/sda5: TYPE="swap"  ....no UUID. I assume since vol_id comes back empty for that device that it does not HAVE a UUID? And that I should assign one using uuidgen and tune2fs?
[04:37] <Bradaphraser> the advanced area says the CPU speed
[04:37] <Bradaphraser> and the ram
[04:37] <trumpetmic> how do I share files with a windows network without requiring a login for windows users to use the files?
[04:37] <un_operateur> varsendaggr, if debian and ubuntu can mount and use ipods -- so can knoppix
[04:38] <Bradaphraser> but I can't find anything that says my hard drive size
[04:38] <nix_ferret> k, look around and see if there is an option to remove the fancy logo from the startup so you can see the post
[04:38] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:38] <nix_ferret> Don't stab it, it's not a woman...
[04:38] <genius314> Can someone help me configure my resolution?
[04:38] <Bradaphraser> hmm
[04:39] <un_operateur> reiki, you can find out what the swap partitions UUID is through the fstab entry -- and that UUID should exist in /dev/disk/by-uuid
[04:39] <Bradaphraser> should I turn off the quickboot mode?
[04:39] <h3xis> genius314, sure
[04:39] <Bradaphraser> would that help anything?
[04:39] <nix_ferret> yes!
[04:39] <maddash> Owner: your ntfs files are actually fragmented across the ntfs partition (which, in most cases, is your entire hard drive)
[04:39] <nix_ferret> that's it
[04:39] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:39] <Bradaphraser> I'll save and see if that helps
[04:39] <nix_ferret> well, sometimes there is a "logo" option too
[04:39] <Owner> maddash: crap, so there's risk of file loss then?
[04:39] <genius314> h3xis: I'm trying to get it 1280x1024 (which is what I put in xorg.conf), but all I can go up to is 1280x800
[04:39] <nix_ferret> look for the words "Primary IDE"
[04:39] <coolzone> Hi, I need to install ubuntu using a floppy, isn't that possible like on debian?
[04:40] <reiki> un_operateur, it's not in /dev/disk/by-uuid and it's not in fstab. /dev/sda5 is the swap partition for a Dapper install on my first SATA drive. Maybe it didn't GET a UUID?
[04:40] <Bradaphraser> damn
[04:40] <Bradaphraser> ok
[04:40] <maddash> Owner: so when you resize your ntfs partition (ubuntu installer has it's own resizer - pretty neat), you might lose portions of, or even entire, files.
[04:40] <HipotermiA> cual es el canal de espaol de ubuntu ?
[04:40] <Bradaphraser> it just jumped straight into my LIVECD menu
[04:40] <CrocoJet> hello
[04:40] <h3xis> genius314, what vid card and do you have the drivers installed?
[04:40] <nix_ferret> you can hit the "pause" button if it goes too fast
[04:40] <reiki> !es
[04:40] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:40] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:40] <CrocoJet> someone here use video capture / TV Powercolor Real angel 330 ?
[04:40] <Owner> maddash: pretty crappy!
[04:40] <nix_ferret> enter to resume
[04:41] <jp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39271/
[04:41] <un_operateur> reiki, if all other partitions are using UUIDs .. it's very very likely the swap partition got one too -- double check fstab,  grep -i swap /etc/fstab
[04:41] <craigbass1976> I have a few questions...  We have been a Fedora house since FC1.  We are now a Fedora family with an Ubuntu basement, but will likely be an Ubuntu house soon.  I need to know why I cna't fire up an app after su-ing in a terminal.  My wife and I fire up thunderbird while the other is logged simply by opening a terminal, su-ing to ourself, and typing thunderbird.  Can't do it in Ubuntu.
[04:41] <Bradaphraser> ok
[04:41] <Erb_> When I play a local video in Firefox (via File > Open file), Firefox crashes.  I have launched Firefox from terminal to see what the error is when it crashes, it is:  Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[04:41] <genius314> h3xis: unfortunately, I have an ATI card. I'd assume the drivers are installed.
[04:41] <Bradaphraser> my lovely splash screen is covering EVERYTHING
[04:41] <h3xis> genius314, not the proprietary ones
[04:42] <nix_ferret> Ok, well, you said you changed user to auto right?
[04:42] <reiki> un_operateur, the swap in fstab on THIS partition has a UUID. I am running on /dev/sdb I have 2 SATA drives and one IDE drive. All Ubuntu installations have their own drive
[04:42] <Bradaphraser> yes
[04:42] <genius314> h3xis: What is that?
[04:42] <aoirthoir> craig ima try that
[04:42] <h3xis> craigbass1976, you use sudo <command> in ubuntu
[04:42] <Bradaphraser> dang it
[04:42] <Bradaphraser> it just pops up with something quickly
[04:42] <Bradaphraser> then runs away
[04:42] <nix_ferret> So boot the liveCD and see if the formatter "sees' your drive
[04:42] <h3xis> genius314, i'm not sure how to get ati drivers working in ubuntu :/ im sure someone else here does
[04:42] <Bradaphraser> it'k
[04:42] <kitche> h3xis: that's to run as root powers not to open an app as another user
[04:43] <maddash> Owner: do you intend to use grub as your primary bootloader or ntldr?
[04:43] <craigbass1976> so, if Amanda has the x session open, I sudo craig thunderbird?
[04:43] <nix_ferret> try hitting esc or something to make the boot logo go away
[04:43] <Tomcat_> craigbass1976: Should work. :)
[04:43] <genius314> h3xis: Ok. Thanks anyway.
[04:43] <un_operateur> reiki, so if there is a UUID present, whats the problem, i'm confused now :)
[04:43] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:43] <Tomcat_> craigbass1976: No, "su craig", then thunderbird should work.
[04:43] <Owner> maddash: prolly
[04:43] <nix_ferret> There is a BIOS option that will make that go away FYI,
[04:43] <jp> did you get that un_operateur? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39271/
[04:43] <Bradaphraser> heh
[04:43] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[04:43] <Bradaphraser> that showed me an instant thing again
[04:43] <maddash> Owner: huh? which one?
[04:43] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:44] <Owner> grub
[04:44] <craigbass1976> Tomcat_, I get a cannot open display message.  This has been the rub...
[04:44] <nix_ferret> How big is your hard drive anyway?
[04:44] <racarr> !pastebin
[04:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:44] <Bradaphraser> supposed to be 20 gig
[04:44] <Tomcat_> craigbass1976: Mh... yeah, there might be auth problems... no idea how to fix those though, sorry. Maybe someone else. :\
[04:44] <nix_ferret> k, cool
[04:44] <reiki> un_operateur, I am trying to get the UUIDs of ALL partitions. I have all but one. I have UUIDs for all partitions currently mounted and in use EXCEPT I can't get the UUID of /dev/sda5 which is the swap partition of a DAPPER install that's on my other sata drive. I am currently booted to Edgy
[04:45] <nix_ferret> lets boot live and see what we can...err...see
[04:45] <un_operateur> jp, ok, your sources.list seems incomplete -- take the sources.list from here and replace each instance of the word "edgy" with "warty" -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sources.list
[04:45] <genius314> Can anyone help me get a 1280x1024 resolution on an ATI card?
[04:45] <kitche> craigbass1976: that's because you can't open another gui app as another user while anotehr user is on that screen you would have to use another display
[04:45] <craigbass1976> Anyone?  How do I get around the "Cannot open display" message when trying to fire up a gui program when another user is the one with the X session open?
[04:45] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:45] <jp> Thanks. (;-)
[04:45] <kitche> craigbass1976: unless you mean from the same screen
[04:45] <craigbass1976> kitche, oh, ok
[04:46] <Bradaphraser> lemme see if live still tells me it's a tiny hard drive
[04:46] <un_operateur> reiki, if you are trying to retrieve the UUID of your swap partition using vol_id .. you won't be able to since the swap partition has no real metadata for it to read off
[04:46] <nix_ferret> If it still says 100mb, I'm going to come over and beat it with a hammer.
[04:46] <craigbass1976> kitche, how do I open another display, or do I have to do the switch user thing?  That's a little XP-ish and I was hoping to avoid that.  So much easier from a terminal...
[04:46] <Bradaphraser> yeah
[04:46] <Bradaphraser> it doesn't listen
[04:47] <nix_ferret> We have ways of making you work e-machine.
[04:47] <reiki> un_operateur, ok... THAT is the answer I think I was looking for. Thank you. Maybe when I BOOT to that Dapper install I will be able to see a UUID :)
[04:47] <Bradaphraser> no matter how much violence I use
[04:47] <Bradaphraser> it just stares at me with a blank look
[04:47] <un_operateur> reiki, maybe something like this helps homing in on the UUID of your swap partition -- for i in `ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/`; do echo $i, `readlink /dev/disk/by-uuid/$i`; done
[04:47] <Bradaphraser> "Huh?"
[04:47] <Bradaphraser> "I'm working!"
[04:47] <Bradaphraser> "I wanna pet the rabbits, George..."
[04:47] <kitche> craigbass1976: only way I know how to is do it from the same screen where your infront of the monitor
[04:47] <nix_ferret> At work we say the beatings will continue until production increases...
[04:47] <Bradaphraser> :)
[04:47] <genius314> Anyone want to help me configure my resolution with an ATI card?
[04:47] <un_operateur> reiki, as i said, no vol_id will be able to tell you the UUID, from any installation
[04:48] <hyphenated> craigbass1976: run 'xhost +local:' as the user who logged into X, then it should work fine after you su to someone else
[04:48] <eimajenthat> Will installing xinetd slow my system down much?
[04:48] <crimsun> please note that xhost is deprecated for security best practices. Use xauth instead.
[04:48] <reiki> un_operateur, ok... can't be that important then :)  thank you for your patience
[04:48] <SilentDis> Bradaphraser, does this axiom sound familiar? "If it doesn't fit, jam it.  If it breaks, it needed fixing anyway."
[04:48] <Erb_> When I play a local video in Firefox (via File > Open file), Firefox crashes.  I have launched Firefox from terminal to see what the error is when it crashes, it is:  Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[04:48] <craigbass1976> hyphenated, every time I boot the box?
[04:48] <ddwagnz> :/
[04:49] <un_operateur> reiki, the command i posted should help you with what you want :)
[04:49] <Bradaphraser> sounds like my method of tech support, yes ;)
[04:49] <un_operateur> reiki, yw :)
[04:49] <hyphenated> craigbass1976: try it first, and if that works, add it to an X startup script somewhere
[04:49] <Bradaphraser> ok
[04:49] <Bradaphraser> it says, "Free space 171 MB"
[04:49] <kitche> Erb_: hmm it's probably due to your video player why not just open the player by itself?
[04:49] <Bradaphraser> unless I'm looking at the wrong thing
[04:49] <Bradaphraser> which is entirely possible
[04:50] <genius314> Can someone help me configure my resolution??
[04:50] <craigbass1976> hyphenated, No love here...       xhost +local:         was the exact command
[04:50] <Bradaphraser> this computer hates me
[04:50] <ddwagnz> hehe
[04:50] <SilentDis> genius314, I missed your question... could you repeat it please?
[04:50] <trumpetmic> anyone: can I share files with a Windows network and not require windows users to login in order to access the files?
[04:50] <Bradaphraser> it's the only honorable option
[04:50] <SilentDis> nix_ferret, can I have your stuff?
[04:50] <nix_ferret> What options does the formatter give you?
[04:50] <Bradaphraser> I'm thinking of being my computer's second
[04:50] <Erb_> kitche - I'm building an application, I need to open local videos in the browser
[04:50] <Tomcat_> trumpetmic: Sure.
[04:50] <nix_ferret> Sorry, goes to the missus
[04:50] <Bradaphraser> heh
[04:50] <Tomcat_> trumpetmic: Requires some configuring though.
[04:50] <craigbass1976> trumpetmic, I believe you can have a wide open samba share
[04:51] <Bradaphraser> now it just says, "Missing command to run"
[04:51] <Bradaphraser> I think I made it angry
[04:51] <trumpetmic> cool
[04:51] <nix_ferret> wt*?
[04:51] <Bradaphraser> lemme try my other CD
[04:51] <Bradaphraser> I've made five Today
[04:51] <SilentDis> nix_ferret, you need to make a murder/suicide pact with her first then. :D
[04:51] <trumpetmic> is there a good guide for learning how to do this?
[04:51] <Bradaphraser> of every kind of ubuntu
[04:51] <craigbass1976> trumpetmic, There's a recipe I think in the Linux Cookbook for such a thing.
[04:51] <Bradaphraser> (kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu...)
[04:51] <craigbass1976> Oreilly
[04:51] <CheyenneD> How do i use UDM (Gnome Login Backgrounds) in Edgy?
[04:51] <nix_ferret> SilenceGold, true. I think my lawyer put that in the pre-nup
[04:51] <genius314> SilentDis: I want a 1280x1024 resolution, (which my monitor and card support - I've done it in Windows), and I configured my Xorg.conf to be able to have that resolution, but all I can go up to is 1280x800.
[04:51] <CheyenneD> *GDM
[04:52] <nix_ferret> Boot the ubuntu live CD
[04:52] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:52] <nix_ferret> Is it version 6.10?
[04:52] <trumpetmic> hm.. I'm surprised there isn't an easy peasy graphical utility for setting this up... sounds like a project
[04:52] <nix_ferret> "edgy"
[04:52] <Bradaphraser> yes
[04:52] <ablyss> CheyenneD: gksu gdmsetup
[04:52] <nix_ferret> good
[04:52] <Tomcat_> trumpetmic: Basically you need to make a directory readable by anyone, and then do map to guest = Bad password... worked for me. I'm pretty sure there is a guide somewhere
[04:52] <Bradaphraser> edgy bastard
[04:52] <Bradaphraser> ;)
[04:52] <SilentDis> genius314, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.  go through that command, choose 'advanced' at the end, and pick the 1280x1024 res.
[04:53] <genius314> SilentDis: Ok, I'll try that.
[04:53] <CheyenneD> ablyss: What?
[04:53] <Tomcat_> trumpetmic: You could submit a specification for that feature for features.launchpad.net :)
[04:53] <nix_ferret> Where do they come up with these names? It reminds me of hurricanes.
[04:53] <Bradaphraser> yeah
[04:53] <ablyss> CheyenneD: gksu gdmsetup
[04:53] <SilentDis> genius314, at the end, nothing will happen, it'll just exit.  restart gdm (ctrl-alt-backspace) and you should be good.
[04:53] <Bradaphraser> hey, I've loved it for the last 9 months or so
[04:53] <Bradaphraser> it's been great
[04:53] <nix_ferret> ubuntu katrina will blow you away
[04:53] <Bradaphraser> it just decided to die Yesterday
[04:53] <Bradaphraser> :)
[04:53] <reiatzu> nix_ferret: ..
[04:53] <SilentDis> genius314, if X fails to start, use that command again, and set it to something lower.  we'll get you fixed yet :)
[04:54] <nix_ferret> Need that movie voice guy to say it though.
[04:54] <genius314> SilentDis: Ok
[04:54] <rigmah> i need some help on my first ubuntu install
[04:54] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, what exactly do you mean by "die"
[04:55] <SilentDis> rigmah, you're in the right spot, ask away :)
[04:55] <genius314> SilentDis: What do I choose for the first option?
[04:55] <ddwagnz> :/
[04:55] <Bradaphraser> it stopped working
[04:55] <eimajenthat> What does xinetd do?
[04:55] <nix_ferret> Um, the PC were kicking around now?
[04:55] <genius314> SilentDis: "X server driver"
[04:55] <Bradaphraser> it wouldn't load all of the sudden
[04:55] <SilentDis> genius314, it's been a while, what is it asking?
[04:55] <nix_ferret> Oh, u mean XP?
[04:55] <craigbass1976> rigmah, this is a windows 3.1 chat.  I don't know what silentdis is talking about...
[04:55] <nix_ferret> or whatever
[04:55] <nix_ferret> lol
[04:55] <SilentDis> genius314, what driver are you using?  binary blobs, or is this the first install you've done?
[04:56] <craigbass1976> rigmah, hehe
[04:56] <genius314> SilentDis: first install.
[04:56] <vox754> !beryl
[04:56] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:56] <nix_ferret> Topic: Win 3.11 for workgroups - is the file manager good or bad
[04:56] <rigmah> i downloaded 6.10 and booted it up on a box i put together from parts laying around. I get to the GUI install screen and i select the first option. I believe its install or run live cd. I see two files load on the GUI then it goes black with a blinking curser
[04:56] <un_operateur> eimajenthat, it's a super-server -- links up smaller-services to ports without the need for them to be running all the time -- as opposed to apache which runs by itself all the time
[04:56] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, you get that beast to boot live yet?
[04:57] <SilentDis> genius314, you're running the built in OSS driver then... you MIGHT wanna consider dropping in the binary blobs first, before you go through this.  hit ctrl-c to exit out.
[04:57] <Bradaphraser> it's still "thinking" about it
[04:57] <rigmah> i burnt the ISO twice and i get the same problem with both. any ideas?
[04:57] <SilentDis> !ati | genius314
[04:57] <ubotu> genius314: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:57] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:57] <Bradaphraser> I'm checking the options it gives me
[04:57] <Bradaphraser> on the intstall screen
[04:58] <eimajenthat> un_operateur:  Is it system intensive?  VMWare wants me to install it.
[04:58] <nix_ferret> You should put in your name and user/pass then a screen or 2 later it will start the "formatter" or whatever it calls it.
[04:58] <Bradaphraser> ok
[04:58] <rigmah> i downloaded 6.10 and booted it up on a box i put together from parts laying around. I get to the GUI install screen and i select the first option. I believe its install or run live cd. I see two files load on the GUI then it goes black with a blinking curser
[04:58] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:58] <NICKA> hello everyone
[04:59] <Bradaphraser> prepare disk space
[04:59] <rigmah> ?
[04:59] <nix_ferret> The install will seem to hang 4 a sec
[04:59] <genius314> SilentDis: I don't have a Radeon card.
[04:59] <willys_fueguino> I need some help... I cant run the gdmflexiserver
[04:59] <nix_ferret> yea
[04:59] <Bradaphraser> manually edit partiition table is the second option
[04:59] <nix_ferret> what's the 1st?
[04:59] <Bradaphraser> the first just says "Erase entire disk"
[04:59] <Bradaphraser> 30.0 GB
[04:59] <nix_ferret> and you tried that and no good?
[04:59] <Bradaphraser> IDE Master, etc etc
[04:59] <Bradaphraser> yeah
[05:00] <Bradaphraser> it just mocked me
[05:00] <nix_ferret> click manually edit, but don't do anything in there
[05:00] <nix_ferret> haha
[05:00] <Bradaphraser> got about 75% through, then did a kill all
[05:00] <weem> nixxxx
[05:00] <weem> lol
[05:00] <Shocka311> How do I use terminal to edit a file that has spaces in it
[05:00] <Bradaphraser> k
[05:00] <tannerld> how can I configure ubuntu's internet settings via the command line?
[05:00] <craigbass1976> rigmah, have you tried 6.06?
[05:00] <Bradaphraser> it has ext3 26 GB
[05:00] <craigbass1976> tannerld, like ip address?
[05:00] <SilentDis> genius314, what kind of card is it?
[05:00] <Bradaphraser> for hda1
[05:01] <Bradaphraser> hda2, extended 1.06 GB
[05:01] <nix_ferret> no swap?
[05:01] <Bradaphraser> and hda5 1.06 GB
[05:01] <SilentDis> Shocka311, nano /path/to/file\ name\ has\ spaces.txt
[05:01] <Bradaphraser> linux-swap
[05:01] <nix_ferret> yeah yeah
[05:01] <Bradaphraser> so
[05:01] <tannerld> craigbass1976: umm, like I clicked "do not config internet at install" and i need to download something to get the x windows working :\
[05:01] <nix_ferret> Ok, well. I'd try to install it like that.
[05:01] <Bradaphraser> k
[05:01] <genius314> SilentDis: 3D Rage Pro (or 3D Rage I/II. I have two installed, each with a different monitor. I also need to get both monitors working.)
[05:02] <Bradaphraser> we'll see what happens
[05:02] <nix_ferret> If it doesn't work you'll need to update your bios
[05:02] <Bradaphraser> k
[05:02] <nix_ferret> well, no. I take that back
[05:02] <Bradaphraser> how would I do that?
[05:02] <eternal_p> hey all, quick question...how can I disable the Beryl Startup Spash screen, I cannot find the setting anywhere
[05:02] <Shocka311> silentdis: could you interpret that please?
[05:02] <curs0r> how do i mount an ipod?
[05:02] <maddash> what happens when you enter in, "sudo apt-get remove apt"?
[05:02] <vox754> !seen illu
[05:02] <ubotu> I haven't seen illu recently
[05:02] <nix_ferret> If ubuntu can "see" it, there shouldn't be a problem
[05:02] <SilentDis> genius314, i've not worked with the rage pro cards... not sure what the 'default' driver is on those.
[05:02] <craigbass1976> tannerld, Ahh, ok.  ifconfig  eth0 ip.add.ress netmask 255.255.255.0  Then set /etc/resolv.conf to your dns server.
[05:02] <vox754> !seen illu45
[05:02] <ubotu> illu45 is on IRC right now!
[05:02] <Bradaphraser> k
[05:02] <Bradaphraser> yeah, it can see it
[05:02] <genius314> SilentDis: Ok.
[05:03] <Bradaphraser> and I ran a memory check earlier, and there were no errors
[05:03] <nix_ferret> who is illu45?
[05:03] <Gun_Smoke> I am experiencing some difficulties with the install via alternate installation CD.  Everything seems to be going fine up until I get to the base installation.  I get a bunch 20-50 red screen errors stating something about not being able to download the files, and another one the certain files are corrupt.
[05:03] <Bradaphraser> so maybe it's just a bios thing
[05:03] <eternal_p> anyone?
[05:03] <nix_ferret> That's good, but sort of not related.
[05:03] <weem> anyone here wardrive?
[05:03] <maddash> does aptitude still work after I do "sudo apt-get remove apt"?
[05:03] <SilentDis> Shocka311, the editor is called 'nano'.  so, you start with the command.  the file you want to edit is in /path/to/.  then, the actual file name has spaces, so you 'escape' the spaces with the backslash.
[05:03] <tannerld> craigbass1976: ok, i think (let me try)
[05:03] <Gun_Smoke> I am in the middle of yet another install attempt to reproduce the events for better information.
[05:04] <craigbass1976> tannerld, you may also have to add a gateway.  lemme see if I can find tha file this command writes to...
[05:04] <Shocka311> silentdis: i see, let me try that
[05:04] <Bradaphraser> k, so BIOS isn't a necessity then
[05:04] <SilentDis> Shocka311, so, say the file name is "My Crazy File.txt", and it's in /home/shocka.  the command would be "nano /home/shocka/My\ Crazy\ File.txt" without the quotes of course :)
[05:04] <Bradaphraser> er, BIOS update, I mean
[05:04] <nix_ferret> no. Where did you see it tell you your drive was only 200mb before?
[05:04] <curs0r> anyone? help me with an ipod?
[05:04] <Bradaphraser> I was looking at free space
[05:05] <Bradaphraser> on the file system
[05:05] <SilentDis> curs0r:  gonna poke ubotu on that one...
[05:05] <Bradaphraser> I was confusing myself
[05:05] <SilentDis> !ipod | curs0r
[05:05] <ubotu> curs0r: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[05:05] <nix_ferret> Oh, in the install?
[05:05] <maddash> anyone know?
[05:05] <nix_ferret> who is illu45?
[05:05] <Bradaphraser> desperately trying to make sense of it all
[05:05] <Bradaphraser> no, not on install
[05:05] <curs0r> thanks
[05:05] <Bradaphraser> after starting live
[05:05] <Gun_Smoke> From the alternate install CD.. What does Install in OEM mode mean?
[05:05] <tannerld> craigbass1976: how can I configure it for dhcp?
[05:05] <Bradaphraser> I looked at the file sytem
[05:05] <NICKA> i cannot get Vmware server installed on my dapper drake. it says detected previous version of vmware
[05:05] <Bradaphraser> desperately trying to figure out why it was killing itself
[05:05] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, Oh, no wonder. You have 256mb ram?
[05:06] <nix_ferret> or 512?
[05:06] <vox754> Shocka311: actually you can also enclose the file name with quotes, simple or double.
[05:06] <Bradaphraser> 256
[05:06] <willys_fueguino> Is there an alternative to gdmflexiserver??
[05:06] <Bradaphraser> which was why I was trying to go for xubuntu
[05:06] <Shocka311> that makes it a little easier
[05:06] <craigbass1976> tannerld, I foudn the file.  hehe...  I'll pm you and paste
[05:06] <SilentDis> vox754, good point, i tend to always use \ to escape single characters, it's just another way I guess :)
[05:06] <nix_ferret> the 200mb you were probably seeing was the 'virtual' hd that ubuntu creates to run within RAM
[05:06] <Bradaphraser> ah yes
[05:06] <nix_ferret> That's how the livecd works
[05:07] <Bradaphraser> that makes sense
[05:07] <rowdy> anybody setup ejabberd
[05:07] <nix_ferret> The install still moving?
[05:07] <rowdy> i installed it but its not starting
[05:07] <Bradaphraser> yeah
[05:07] <Bradaphraser> so far
[05:07] <alex-weej> !xgl
[05:07] <SilentDis> !anyone | rowdy
[05:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:07] <ubotu> rowdy: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:07] <Bradaphraser> you think it could be a problem with not enough RAM?
[05:07] <Bradaphraser> and, if so, how could I fix that, outside of buying more RAM?
[05:07] <vox754> SilentDis: now, how do you call a file like this "name:000:hsash:.5.cong"? there, you need the backlash
[05:08] <rowdy> ubotu: :)
[05:08] <nix_ferret> ubuntu should work in 256 RAM. Anyone care to confirm this?
[05:08] <SilentDis> vox754, lol
[05:08] <Shocka311> vox754: so I have a folder named "Type new name of folder" and I need to change ownership to user, how would I do that in terminal?
[05:08] <robtp> nix_ferret: i can confirm that it runs pretty acceptably even with 192
[05:08] <Bradaphraser> it was working great three days ago
[05:08] <robtp> Bradaphraser: whats your problem?
[05:08] <curs0r> i'm in big trouble
[05:08] <nix_ferret> ubuntu was loaded 3 days ago?
[05:09] <Bradaphraser> my compy keeps killing itself
[05:09] <curs0r> i plugged in the ipod before i installed gtkpod
[05:09] <Bradaphraser> in the middle of install
[05:09] <Spitzfire> hi i,m new to linux i need help loadin programs
[05:09] <robtp> Bradaphraser: at the same step, or after awhile?
[05:09] <__mikem> Bradaphraser, you should have your computer committed
[05:09] <Bradaphraser> I was reinstalling, because it suddenly wouldn't boot Yesterday morning
[05:09] <dthacker> rowdy, I have not used this package myself, but my first troubleshooting step is *always* to read the logs
[05:09] <Bradaphraser> I agree
[05:09] <rowdy> the server's not starting..when i run ejabberdctl register i get this http://pastebin.ca/295176
[05:09] <SilentDis> nix_ferret, I have ubuntu running on a 256 MiB machine.  it installed and ran just fine.  just recently swapped out a module and made it a 384 MiB machine, but yes, it works/installs fine.  a bit slow, but what do you expect?  lol
[05:09] <SilentDis> nix_ferret, just make SURE you give a healthy swap space to it, and you're fine.
[05:09] <Bradaphraser> after a wjo;e
[05:09] <Bradaphraser> woah
[05:09] <Bradaphraser> after a while, I mean
[05:09] <Bradaphraser> (stupid fingers were on the wrong keys)
[05:09] <robtp> Bradaphraser: but not the same part?
[05:10] <Bradaphraser> not always, no
[05:10] <robtp> Bradaphraser: i have that problem all the time i switch between dvorak and qwerty it gets pretty weird
[05:10] <Bradaphraser> though I have been using multiple
[05:10] <Bradaphraser> CDs
[05:10] <rowdy> dthacker: the other thing is that the logs are empty
[05:10] <nix_ferret> Did you install anything new? Printer? Scanner?
[05:10] <robtp> Bradaphraser: it kinda sounds like a hardware issue but its hard to say without seeing it
[05:10] <SilentDis> Spitzfire, what program are you trying to 'load'?  are you having problems running programs?  installing them?
[05:10] <curs0r> lsusb |grep Apple shows the device present but it is not mounted and i don't know how to either mount it for gtkpod or stop the device so i can unplug it
[05:10] <Bradaphraser> on the Xubuntu install, it's pretty consistently at the same point
[05:10] <vox754> Shocka311: just like you have it, "sudo chmod <---> 'File whate evr asdjnda' " obviously without the external quotes, and <---> are your permissions
[05:10] <Spitzfire> like a irc client
[05:10] <Bradaphraser> yeah, I was afraid of that
[05:11] <nix_ferret> err afraid of what?
[05:11] <Spitzfire> silent can i call you s to keep this short
[05:11] <robtp> curs0r: dapper, edgy or what?
[05:11] <curs0r> robtp, edgy
[05:11] <Bradaphraser> it being an hardware problem
[05:11] <curs0r> sorry
[05:11] <Bradaphraser> becuase that'll end up costing me money
[05:11] <SilentDis> !who | Spitzfire
[05:11] <ubotu> Spitzfire: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say, or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:11] <Bradaphraser> and I'm freaking broke
[05:11] <robtp> Bradaphraser: try doing a memory scan, look for memtest86 or its on the cd
[05:11] <reiatzu> Bradaphraser: why?
[05:11] <Bradaphraser> (which is why I use ubuntu ;) )
[05:11] <SilentDis> Spitzfire, you're looking to install an IRC client, correct?
[05:11] <Spitzfire> yes s
[05:12] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, remove all your usb stuff too, like printers and such.
[05:12] <robtp> curs0r: does it show up in amarok, banshee, etc or on your desktop?
[05:12] <rowdy> any ideas
[05:12] <nix_ferret> Did you install anything new?
[05:12] <Bradaphraser> memory scan is an option on bootup, right?
[05:12] <Spitzfire> i,m fronm xp
[05:12] <robtp> Bradaphraser: try using a ps2 mouse and keyboard if you can
[05:12] <robtp> Bradaphraser: yeah
[05:12] <Spitzfire> s
[05:12] <Bradaphraser> I was trying to burn a CD
[05:12] <curs0r> robtp, nowhere...
[05:12] <Bradaphraser> I don't have anything hooked up to the USB, right now
[05:12] <curs0r> robtp, i don't have banshee or amarok
[05:12] <robtp> curs0r: whats in dmesg | tail when you plug it in
[05:12] <robtp> curs0r: does it show up in rhythmbox
[05:13] <ddaemon> nix_ferret, I'm still having my issue with hanging at fsck, got any ideas?
[05:13] <Spitzfire> ok i got the irc thing off a free site
[05:13] <Spitzfire> put it tmp
[05:13] <jumbers> What tends to be a good FTP server daemon? I'm running proftpd, but I don't know if there's something better out there
[05:13] <SilentDis> Spitzfire, put my name at the start of your comment, and it'll be easier for me to sift out, and I won't miss your comments :)  on the default Ubuntu 6.10 install, you HAVE an irc client in Gaim.  Just create an IRC account in it.  that'll get you by for now.  after that, there's xchat, and, if you're feeling adventurous, bitchx
[05:13] <curs0r> SCSI device sdd: 1982464 2048-byte hdwr sectors (4060 MB) <-- does that mean i mount sdd?
[05:13] <Bradaphraser> k, well thanks for all the help, guys,
[05:13] <Shocka311> vox754: so would this be what I would type? chown user /home/user/"Type name of new folder"
[05:13] <Bradaphraser> it's still installing ok
[05:13] <Spitzfire> now i guess i need to compile
[05:13] <Bradaphraser> hopefully it'll decide to work
[05:13] <vox754> Bradaphraser: Come on, you are eating the entire screen with your chatting. Take your time to write a nice long paragraph that everybody has time to read.
[05:14] <Spitzfire> ok
[05:14] <nix_ferret> ddaemon, you booted recover?
[05:14] <nix_ferret> recovery?
[05:14] <SilentDis> Spitzfire, there's a HUGE number of irc clients available in easy to use repositories in Ubuntu.  no need to compile one by hand yourself.
[05:14] <craigbass1976> Can anyone recommend a simple photo editing program?  Something like the one that comes with a new dell?
[05:14] <ddaemon> nix_ferret,
[05:14] <ddaemon> yes I did
[05:14] <Spitzfire> silentdis i never done that before
[05:14] <dthacker> rowdy: the app mailing list has several hits with similar errors.  I suggest you post there.
[05:15] <jumbers> craigbass1976: GIMP is fairly easy to use
[05:15] <alex-weej> craigbass1976: f-spot
[05:15] <robtp> curs0r: you could try it, nothing in rhythmbox?
[05:15] <ddaemon> no problems doing that
[05:15] <Bradaphraser> sorry, I'm used to smaller rooms.  I don't usually post in big ones like this.  I'll try to post a little-less spastically.
[05:15] <nix_ferret> craigbass1976, I've been using digikam - it's good
[05:15] <craigbass1976> I use GIMP, but it's like pounding a finish nail with a wrecking ball
[05:15] <nix_ferret> he said "Dell" not cray.
[05:15] <SilentDis> Spitzfire, for example, right now, I'm using XChat.  it's rather basic, and has few 'bells and whistles'.  I use BitchX as well, when I'm at a terminal.  both were installed without compiling from source, just used apt package system to get them and install them for me.
[05:15] <_|-> hello guys
[05:15] <rowdy> dthacker: how do do that
[05:15] <SilentDis> Spitzfire, what IRC client do you want to try?  Gaim, XChat, BitchX?
[05:16] <Spitzfire> silentdis this will be the first time i loaded anynew program on the thing
[05:16] <robtp> is there a better alternative to xchat-gnome? im not a big fan
[05:16] <Spitzfire> what ever looks good
[05:16] <curs0r> robtp, i see nothing to indicate an ipod in rb
[05:16] <Spitzfire> i one bouncer one
[05:16] <SilentDis> Spitzfire, I'd recommend XChat.  gives a bit more power than Gaim does, and is still fairly easy to use.
[05:16] <craigbass1976> robtp, regular xchat? or that's still no good?
[05:16] <craigbass1976> robtp, I didn't liek the gnome version either
[05:17] <nix_ferret> ddaemon, I would boot recovery again and see this:http://adminschoice.com/docs/fsck.htm
[05:17] <dthacker> rowdy: Use google to search for the home page of jabber.  Find the jabberd mailing list and follow the instructions to join.
[05:17] <Bakefy> Can someone help me create a password for my Samba Share.  I have been looking on ubuntu's tutorial and I still can't get it.
[05:17] <Spitzfire> dis i,m on vmware too
[05:17] <robtp> curs0r: try mounting it then
[05:17] <rowdy> dthacker: thanks will do
[05:17] <SilentDis> Spitzfire, you can use the Synaptic Package Manger (system > Administration > Synaptic) if you prefer to use a GUI, otherwise, the fast way is to open up a terminal window, and type "sudo apt-get install xchat" (without the quotes, of course)
[05:17] <robtp> craigbass1976: what do you use? standard xchat? which i dont like too much either...
[05:17] <nix_ferret> get fsck to run and see what it pukes on
[05:17] <Bradaphraser> It got to 65% percent, beeped, and then did a kill all
[05:17] <maddash> I'm running a 500 mhz x86 w/192 ram. how can I get my ubuntu server setup to boot faster? it takes about 00:1:30 right now
[05:18] <craigbass1976> robtp, yes, just regular xchat.  I'm just used to it I guess.
[05:18] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!111
[05:18] <Bradaphraser> I've been doing that all day for two days.  ;)
[05:18] <kitche> robtp: well the irc clietns that are morepowerful are cli
[05:18] <Spitzfire> where do you type the commands
[05:18] <robtp> craigbass1976: i like konversation when i use kde, but im bothered by mixing and im on gnome now
[05:18] <jbroome> maddash: don't cut it off
[05:18] <nix_ferret> I think it jumped the shark man.
[05:18] <maddash> jbroome: what?
[05:18] <curs0r> robtp, mount -t vfat /dev/sdd2 /media/ipod worked, thanks for your help
[05:19] <Spitzfire> teminal is how i unziped the tar
[05:19] <SilentDis> maddash, that is VERY quick for a machine with only 192mb ram and a 500mhz processor.
[05:19] <Spitzfire> but it in tmp
[05:19] <Spitzfire> folder
[05:19] <jbroome> maddash: i'm sorry, i was responding to your question
[05:19] <dthacker> maddash: you are at your hw limits.
[05:19] <robtp> curs0r: see if you can figure out why its not mounting automatically (which i tihnk it should, mine does)
[05:19] <maddash> SilentDis: xp boots in 30 s.
[05:19] <craigbass1976> robtp, I've only used one other in linux, and I can't remember what it's called.  It was on a DSL boot cd.  There's chatzilla, ever tried that?
[05:19] <jbroome> won't happen again
[05:19] <NICKA> can someone please help me with my vmware
[05:19] <Spitzfire> put it in the tmp
[05:19] <SilentDis> !who | Spitzfire
[05:19] <ubotu> Spitzfire: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say, or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:19] <maddash> dthacker: for linux, you mean?
[05:19] <Shocka311> would this be the correct comand to change ownership of a file named Type name of new folder?  ""sudo chown user /home/user/"Type name of new folder"
[05:19] <robtp> craigbass1976: havent, ill give it a try though
[05:19] <Bradaphraser> So, should I just take this to Geeksquad, or buy a motherboard, or get a credit card and buy another giant paperweight?
[05:19] <nix_ferret> craigbass1976, seriously though, digikam is good for organizing and editing photos. Make sure you install the scripts for it too.
[05:19] <Spitzfire> mind if i pm silentdis
[05:20] <nix_ferret> ???GIMP is poo for that.
[05:20] <robtp> craigbass1976: oh right the xul one haha
[05:20] <curs0r> robtp, now i just have to figure out how to safely unplug it
[05:20] <SilentDis> Spitzfire, I'm TRYING hard to keep up here... so I apologize if I missed something.  you can install xchat by opening a terminal (applications > accessories > terminal).  then type this in:  sudo apt-get install xchat
[05:20] <craigbass1976> nix_ferret, I'm installing f-spot, then I'll do digikam and see which one the wife likes better.
[05:20] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, Geeksquad?!!! I would rather you kill me
[05:20] <dthacker> maddash: no, I mean that your hardware will probably not boot any faster.   Faster hardware will boot faster.
[05:20] <SilentDis> Spitzfire, it's general policy here to keep stuff in channel, so others can learn :)
[05:20] <kitche> Bradaphraser: well if you have Linux on your computer GeekSquad won't know how to work with it really
[05:20] <Bradaphraser> ok, then I'll mark that off the list ;)
[05:20] <robtp> curs0r: umount it
[05:21] <maddash> dthacker: did you not see my previous msg? xp boots in under a minute, and windows nt boots in < 45 s
[05:21] <NICKA> im in geek squad
[05:21] <craigbass1976> I'm still blown away by how much software there is in the repos.  Way more than fedora...
[05:21] <robtp> craigbass1976: what did you think about chatzilla? which im installing now
[05:21] <LameBMX> yay .. i got spdif workin easier than i thought
[05:21] <NICKA> im learning linux myself
[05:21] <maddash> there's gotta be some stuff I can cut out
[05:21] <curs0r> robtp, i can just unplug it then?
[05:21] <NICKA> my co workers no nothing about it
[05:21] <craigbass1976> I liked it, and used it in Windows (you have to pay for windows xchat)  Since I liked it though, and like xchat, you may not like it.
[05:21] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, build yourself a real damned computer.
[05:22] <LameBMX> NICKA,
[05:22] <SilentDis> maddash, there's a LOT more going on 'under the hood' as it were, in linux.  the file system, for one, is a lot different than either of those OSs you listed, so it's gonna take time to pull it up properly, with all it's journalizing and such
[05:22] <craigbass1976> robtp, I find them similar
[05:22] <willys_fueguino> Is there an alternative to gdmflexiserver??
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> craigbass1976: unofficail xchat builds are free
[05:22] <curs0r> robtp, because it's flashing do not unplug on the screen
[05:22] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, wait till after pay day and go on to newegg.com
[05:22] <robtp> curs0r: youre not "supposed to" but you can if you want to really, i usually avoid it
[05:22] <craigbass1976> tonyyarusso, I never thought of that...
[05:22] <robtp> curs0r: yeah, that doesnt mean too much unless youre transferring something... its not good to do but its probabyl going to be harmless
[05:22] <LameBMX> NICKA, thats luv ... im a nix noob but i always wanted to call out geek squad and make them remove a virus .. with a hidden cam ... :) and no software allowed to touch my pc
[05:22] <curs0r> robtp, how do i avoid it?
[05:22] <dthacker> maddash: Silent Dis is right.
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> craigbass1976: silverex is good
[05:22] <Bradaphraser> well, I've never built a computer before
[05:23] <Bradaphraser> but I'll look into that
[05:23] <Winter> awright, so i have a 680i motherboard with onboard sound. I have been using that for some time, but recently purchased a new m-audio revolution sound card and stuck it in. However, i can't seem to figure out how to make it play anything... i can see it through lspci and select the hardware in, ie, xmms, but it refuses to actually do anything and kicks out errors depending on what i select
[05:23] <robtp> curs0r: did you umount /dev/sdd2 (or what it was?)
[05:23] <curs0r> robtp, send a command to ehci to stop it or something?
[05:23] <cellofellow> can you tell me why I get an Error 1 when I boot the multiuser kernels in this menu.lst?: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39277/
[05:23] <craigbass1976> LameBMX, that would be a youtube vid I'd watch.  Do it!
[05:23] <curs0r> robtp,  yes i did
[05:23] <LameBMX> roflmao
[05:23] <dthacker> LameBMX: ++
[05:23] <abhinay> How to install AntiVirus in Ubuntu Edgy ?
[05:23] <robtp> curs0r: then its just buggin and youre fine unplugging it
[05:23] <h3xis> abhinay, you dont need one
[05:23] <curs0r> robtp, thanks you're a mensch
[05:23] <LameBMX> sad thing is .. i work contract stylee for compusa
[05:23] <violot> Anti-virus is for pansies
[05:23] <Madpilot> abhinay, why waste time with an antivirus on Linux?
[05:24] <abhinay> h3xis, i need to scan the windows drives
[05:24] <craigbass1976> LameBMX, especially cool if you got one of the WMs that look just like XP...
[05:24] <wastrel> "ubuntu"
[05:24] <nix_ferret> abhinay, it's called clamav
[05:24] <h3xis> abhinay, server?
[05:24] <LameBMX> yeppers ... i ran windows forever with no av or firewall ... when i did get caught ... it was a challenge that taught me how much of a rip-off av software is
[05:24] <abhinay> h3xis, no, my friends hard disk
[05:24] <tannerld> craigbass1976: icky, it doesn't detect my network card :E
[05:24] <nix_ferret> av is for ppl like my dad.
[05:24] <SilentDis> robtp, Linux, by it's nature, is a bit less prone to virii than windows.  having said that, it's 'nice' to protect others from being a ferry-point for trojans.  you probably won't get a virus with Ubuntu.  but if you want, you can install avast, they've got a linux client.
[05:24] <LameBMX> craigbass1976, beryl baby ...
[05:25] <craigbass1976> tannerld, Balls.  Did you just edit that file, or do something else?
[05:25] <SilentDis> robtp, let me dig around, I just saw an article on it in an Ubuntu-related blog...
[05:25] <LameBMX> craigbass1976, it owns vista .. i was runnin eval version till i up and decided to give ubuntu a test drive
[05:25] <robtp> SilentDis: youre talking to the wrong person :)
[05:25] <tannerld> craigbass1976: I tried, not sure if its right.
[05:25] <abhinay> nix_ferret, does clamav work for desktop also ?
[05:25] <robtp> abhinay: read what SilentDis was saying to me
[05:25] <robtp> abhinay: clamav is usually meant for servers but it works fine on a desktop as well
[05:25] <craigbass1976> tannerld, I'm wondering if there is more to it than just adding a line ot that file.
[05:26] <SilentDis> robtp, i'm so sorry, damn sylisdexia
[05:26] <cellofellow> can you tell me why I get an Error 1 when I boot the multiuser kernels in this menu.lst?: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39277/
[05:26] <SilentDis> abhinay, check this link out:  http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/UbuntuTutorials/~3/67039393/
[05:26] <craigbass1976> ANYONE know how to get a network card installed of the UBUNTU install was done without configuring it?
[05:26] <robtp> robtp: youre not going to see much in the way of linux virii, but it can be nice to use clamav to prevent yourself from infecting friends as a transmitting intermediary if you get what i mean
[05:26] <curs0r> robtp, turns out that's a known issue with newer nanos... huh
[05:26] <tannerld> craigbass1976: probably, we tried the install cd again to configure the internet that way, no detction :\
[05:26] <LameBMX> cellofellow, can you describe ur problem ..
[05:26] <nix_ferret> abhinay, it should be in the package installer, I could have sworn I saw it
[05:27] <robtp> curs0r: the lack of recognizance or the d/c problem? or both?
[05:27] <craigbass1976> tannerld, that blows.  What's the motherboard and card?
[05:27] <curs0r> the failure to automount
[05:27] <robtp> curs0r: was it showing in gtkpod after you mounted it?
[05:27] <LameBMX> cellofellow, line 71 groot=(hd0,0) ... so the grub home dir is on the same partition as windows?
[05:27] <abhinay> SilentDis, thank you :)
[05:27] <curs0r> gtkpod works fine but it doesn't create the mountpoint it wants on install
[05:27] <Shocka311> I can't get this file changed to my ownership. Can someone help?
[05:28] <cellofellow> LameBMX: no windows
[05:28] <Bradaphraser> well, thanks again
[05:28] <tannerld> craigbass1976: not sure of the motherboard, but the card is a Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit (quick google search finds that I'm not the only one with troubles with this on any distrib.)
[05:28] <cellofellow> LameBMX: just Ubuntu
[05:28] <Bradaphraser> be excellent to each other, and party on dudes
[05:28] <curs0r> robtp, gtkpod wanted to see it in /media/ipod and didn't have a way to change that in the gui
[05:28] <LameBMX> cellofellow, ahhh k doh nvm ...
[05:28] <vox754> Shocka311: sorry, it's windy in here, loss of connection
[05:28] <RoC_MM_0w2> Anybody know if the unix2dos or dos2unix packages are in ubuntu?  I have both multiverse and universe and I don't see them.
[05:28] <SilentDis> Bradaphraser, thanks, now a certain Kiss song is stuck in my head because of you :P
[05:28] <Shocka311> vox754: no worries
[05:29] <LameBMX> cellofellow, i just edit the automagic sectiond .. do grub-update .. and double check after that .. so no updates make my comp not boot lol
[05:29] <alienseer23> I am having major sound issues, lots of error messages, and no sound at all, I get an error when trying to test sound in gnome, I get an error when trying to open alsamixer, media is not playing to default sound card, but I can isolate chanells with xmms and play to them, just not to the card as a whole. can anyone help me get my sound back??
[05:29] <Hawkline> Twinxor where is Twinxor
[05:29] <netboix> If I am currently using xp and am planning on dual booting... where do i install grub at the end of my ubuntu install... the default location seemed to give me an eror
[05:29] <Shocka311> vox754: so would this work? chown user /home/user/"Type name of new folder"
[05:29] <Asc> How might I start X without a window manager?  Like, just with the b/w hatched background.
[05:29] <LameBMX> and i think i should just goto bed now ... cuz lookin back im not makin any sense to meself either
[05:29] <cellofellow> LameBMX: I don't understand
[05:29] <craigbass1976> tannerld, sorry man.  That's weird, because there was a bunch of new broadcom chipset support added to 2.6.17 kernel.
[05:29] <RoC_MM_0w2> Anybody know if the unix2dos or dos2unix packages are in ubuntu?  I have both multiverse and universe and I don't see them.
[05:30] <robtp> curs0r: you can mount /dev/blah blah blah /media/ipod to please it
[05:30] <Asc> I mean, without something like, e.g. gnome, kde, or ion
[05:30] <Shocka311> vox754: did you get that?
[05:30] <wastrel> ubuuuuuuntu
[05:30] <nix_ferret> Night, good luck ppl
[05:30] <curs0r> robtp, did dat ;)
[05:30] <tannerld> craigbass1976: does edgy use a different kernal than the last version (i'm using the last versions's install cd)?
[05:30] <LameBMX> cellofellow, .. what kind of errors are you getting
[05:30] <SilentDis> RoC_MM_0w2, what do those packages do?  maybe something similar is.  I've never herd of them.
[05:30] <wastrel> 2.6.17-10-generic
[05:30] <curs0r> robtp, can one just add mp3 files to an ipod and do away with amarok/banshee/gtkpod?
[05:30] <wastrel> ^^ edgy
[05:30] <craigbass1976> tannerld, uname -a will tell you what kernel you have.
[05:30] <vox754> Shocka311: no, problems... with... internet... not... gonna... make.. it...
[05:31] <Shocka311> vox754: lol
[05:31] <RoC_MM_0w2> SilentDis: they convert files from DOS format to UNIX format.
[05:31] <RoC_MM_0w2> oh
[05:31] <RoC_MM_0w2> I think I found it
[05:31] <RoC_MM_0w2> it might be in sysutils
[05:31] <cellofellow> LameBMX: Error 1. But only when try to boot the non-recovery-mode kernels.
[05:31] <RoC_MM_0w2> I'll be back if it's not
[05:31] <NICKA> i cant get vmware server to install it keeps saying i have a previous version but i dont :(
[05:31] <craigbass1976> tannerld, I'm in dapper (2.15....)
[05:31] <SilentDis> RoC_MM_0w2, such as...
[05:31] <SilentDis> RoC_MM_0w2, like a text file or the like?  or am I missing something...
[05:32] <tannerld> craigbass1976: I'll download the edgy install cd just in case (and give me something to do...)
[05:32] <netboix> If I am currently using xp and am planning on dual booting... where do i install grub at the end of my ubuntu install... the default location seemed to give me an eror
[05:33] <Bakefy> Can anyone here help me with samba?  the ubuntu site is confusing me.
[05:33] <LameBMX> cellofellow, comment out the hiddenmenu option ... then hit e and remove quiet and splash .. hit enter and see where it errors from there
[05:33] <LameBMX> dont know if u tried that
[05:33] <curs0r> Bakefy, what's up?
[05:33] <cellofellow> k
[05:33] <LameBMX> cellofellow, also try puttin timeout to like 30 seconds and waiting
[05:34] <dthacker> netboix: what is the error?
[05:34] <SilentDis> netboix, the default location would be hd0.  usually, you have windows on the first partition, and ubuntu on the second, right?
[05:34] <Bakefy> curs0r: Thanks,  I am trying to create a username and password for all of my smb shares
[05:34] <Bakefy> windows will not connect if I don't have a username and password
[05:34] <netboix> SilentDis: yes that is correct... but it seems that i have no hd0
[05:34] <netboix> dthacker: leme look real quick
[05:34] <LameBMX> i get all kinds of weird crap if i make it through that menu too fast ... i just let it select the os itself and it boots okay .. but i got it for 30secs on mine ... worth a shot
[05:34] <curs0r> Bakefy, would you rather not have a password?
[05:35] <SilentDis> netboix, what dthacker said:  "what is the error?" :)
[05:35] <Bakefy> yeah
[05:35] <curs0r> Bakefy, i thought that might be the case
[05:35] <LameBMX> right he lefttededed
[05:35] <Bakefy> curs0r: I can connect with other non windows devices with no trouble
[05:35] <vox754> I also have a minor problem with GRUB. I can't use "grub> find /boot/grub/stage1"; It gives me "Error:15"; I can boot, it's just that it gives me that message.
[05:36] <Bakefy> curs0r: I have been told that windows NEEDS a username and password, or it wont ever attempt
[05:36] <curs0r> Bakefy, did you edit /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[05:36] <curs0r> Bakefy, not true, i got it to work
[05:36] <Bakefy> curs0r: I  have only changed the work group
[05:36] <netboix> SilentDis: so even if my first hd is hda it still should be installed on hd0?
[05:36] <Bakefy> curs0r: I  have XP by the way...
[05:37] <curs0r> Bakefy, ok you need to edit a setting in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:37] <melon_> guys.. when i do: sudo apt-get build-dep ffmpeg <-- i get a "could not open file etcetc - open (2 No such file or directory) <-- did i break something?
[05:37] <SilentDis> netboix, grub lists HDs differently.  HD0, HD1 and so on.  it's looking at the MBR (master boot record) not the partition spaces
[05:37] <oktay> hi. anybody know if dhcpd can call a script when the connection is lost and regained?
[05:37] <curs0r> Bakefy, there is a section in that file called authentication
[05:37] <netboix> SilentDis: ok leme run it on the default again and see what the error is
[05:38] <SilentDis> melon_, could you pastebin the whole error?
[05:38] <SilentDis> !pastebin | melon_
[05:38] <ubotu> melon_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:38] <oktay> would /etc/network/if-up.d be involved here or does it only get run the first time the network is up?
[05:38] <curs0r> under that line if you see a line that says security = user i want you to place a # in front of that line
[05:38] <curs0r> Bakefy, under that line if you see a line that says security = user i want you to place a # in front of that line
[05:38] <netboix> SilentDis: the only reason i ask is taht the installer is listing my ide1 master as hda and grub wnats to install on hd0
[05:38] <melon_> http://paste2.org/p/704
[05:39] <netboix> should i let it go there"?
[05:39] <curs0r> Bakefy, if you don't see that line or if it already has a # that's ok
[05:39] <SilentDis> netboix, that's proper, yes
[05:39] <curs0r> Bakefy, then once you take care of that add security = share and save the file
[05:39] <Bakefy> curs0r thats already been done.
[05:39] <Bakefy> curs0r okay I will try that
[05:40] <SilentDis> netboix, HD0 is the first hard drive found, usually, specified by the bios.  usually it means IDE port 0, master drive.
[05:40] <RoC_MM_0w> the package name is tofrodos
[05:40] <Bakefy> curs0r:  ";   security = user"
[05:40] <Bakefy> is currently what I see, is ; a blocked charactor
[05:40] <curs0r> Bakefy, put a # in front of it
[05:41] <netboix> SilentDis: ok lets see if ig et the error
[05:41] <Kira> Does somebody know of a mail client that can send new mail messages to stdout non-interactively?
[05:41] <SilentDis> netboix, ok :)
[05:41] <Gun_Smoke> The ./pool/main/u/ubuntu=artwork/ubuntu=_28_all.deb file failed the MD% checksum verification.  Your CD-ROM or this file may have been corrupted.  What does that mean?
[05:41] <Bakefy> okay i just saved it
[05:41] <curs0r> then on its own line security = share with no #
[05:41] <Bakefy> time to check
[05:41] <curs0r> wait
[05:41] <Bakefy> it worked
[05:41] <Bakefy> i fucking love you
[05:42] <curs0r> oh, ok
[05:42] <curs0r> lol
[05:42] <Bakefy> thanks man!
[05:42] <curs0r> put in a good word for me with god
[05:42] <Bakefy> if I make it there first I will
[05:42] <curs0r> lol
[05:43] <curs0r> yeah that info is priceless ain't it?
[05:43] <Bakefy> thanks again, im going to enjoy and map some new drives!
[05:44] <alienseer23> could someone put my name in here so I can see if I get sound, please?
[05:44] <kitche>  alienseer23 ?
[05:44] <alienseer23> yippie!!!
[05:44] <alienseer23> thankl you
[05:44] <curs0r> alienseer23,
[05:45] <curs0r> alienseer23,
[05:45] <alienseer23> I have been wrestling with my sound for 2 days
[05:45] <curs0r> hehehe i couldn't help it
[05:45] <alienseer23> it's music to my ears
[05:45] <alienseer23> to just have clear sound
[05:45] <curs0r> everybody sam his sound server! lol
[05:45] <alienseer23> and Zappa
[05:45] <curs0r> spam*
[05:45] <alienseer23> no!
[05:46] <curs0r> ;)
[05:46] <gumpppy3> has anybody had problems accessing yahoo mail using mozilla firefox?
[05:47] <jbroome> gumpppy3: nope, and i'm using a bunch of scriptblocker/adblocker extensions too
[05:47] <alienseer23> Q: does anyone know a simple way to enable 5.1 sound by default?
[05:48] <NICKA> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[05:48] <NICKA> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[05:48] <gumpppy3> thanks jbroome for the reply
[05:48] <NICKA> thats not the directory does anyone know off hand
[05:48] <jasz> hello all
[05:48] <NICKA> for vmserver
[05:48] <kitche> NICKA: /usr/include/linux
[05:48] <kitche> NICKA: but you also have ot install them also
[05:48] <jasz> anyone here knows how to remove DRM from some files I bought through the Itunes Store?
[05:48] <Olathe> Is it a bad idea to remove the /etc/hosts line with 127.0.1.1 ?
[05:48] <NICKA> oh
[05:48] <jasz> or how can I play them using Rhythmbox?
[05:49] <NICKA> how do i install them
[05:49] <h3xis> Olathe, yes
[05:49] <NICKA> its for vmware server
[05:50] <SilentDis> jasz, recent versions of iTunes pull in via version 6, and I don't think there's a crack out there for that yet...
[05:50] <Olathe> h3xis: What is 127.0.1.1 used for ?
[05:50] <h3xis> that's localhost
[05:50] <Olathe> Not 127.0.0.1
[05:50] <NICKA> man im stuck i cant install vmware
[05:50] <Olathe> But 127.0.1.1
[05:50] <h3xis> Olathe, ahhh
[05:50] <jasz> :(
[05:50] <h3xis> Olathe, is that all that's there?
[05:51] <Olathe> The line is 127.0.1.1 myboxsname
[05:51] <artbird309> NICKA: you install in from apt-get install
[05:51] <h3xis> i think that's the loopback device
[05:51] <NICKA> oh
[05:51] <NICKA> you know that cmd?
[05:51] <NICKA> im kind of a noob
[05:51] <h3xis> Olathe, i think it's safe to keep, but i'm not sure if it's a good idea to remove
[05:52] <NICKA> im on the forum thread for this vmware and i donno
[05:52] <artbird309> NICKA: let me boot my computer up
[05:52] <kitche> !vmware|NICKA
[05:52] <ubotu> NICKA: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[05:52] <NICKA> ok
[05:52] <kitche> NICKA: you probably want VMware server
[05:53] <NICKA> yea
[05:53] <NICKA> thats what im installing
[05:53] <NICKA> vmware server
[05:53] <kitche> NICKA: you using that link?
[05:53] <NICKA> yea
[05:53] <NICKA> im reading it
[05:53] <__david> hello, does edgy eft support live growing of ext3 filesystems?
[05:53] <NICKA> will you be around?
[05:53] <Olathe> Apparently, it's for when you use DHCP: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2005/06/msg01047.html
[05:54] <artbird309> NICKA: who
[05:55] <klypso> hey, anyone know how to set up a dual boot with GRUB?
[05:55] <NICKA> you guys
[05:55] <klypso> I keep getting the same error.
[05:55] <NICKA> artbird or kitche
[05:55] <NICKA> youg uys are great help with the link
[05:55] <kitche> I m around I went to the instructions to install
[05:55] <NICKA> im reading  a bit ill brb
[05:56] <digip1mp> does anyone know why ubuntuforums uses vbulletin instead of phpbb?...  isn't that kind of anti-foss? (just occurred to me that this is kind of funny)
[05:56] <klypso> Booting 'Microsoft Windows XP home edition'
[05:56] <klypso> root (hd0,0)
[05:56] <klypso> Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7
[05:56] <klypso> savedefault
[05:56] <klypso> makeactive
[05:56] <klypso> Error 29: Disk write error
[05:57] <kitche> digip1mp: phpbb can easily be hacked
[05:57] <klypso> oops, didn't mean to spam
[05:57] <__david> yes? > flaviorbeiro
[05:57] <ddaemon> what is the reason for using this construct in a shell script? if [ x$VAR != x] ; then...
[05:57] <levander> What user group do I have to be in to use the applications on the System -> Administration menu?
[05:58] <digip1mp> kitche: really?
[05:58] <klypso> anyone know how to fix that?
[05:58] <wastrel> levander:  admin
[05:58] <NICKA> when i did what it said for the kenral version type
[05:59] <NICKA> it said folder doesnt exist
[06:00] <willys_fueguino> How can i switch users on xubuntu edgy?
[06:01] <NICKA> man you guys stil here.. seems like im screwed
[06:01] <NICKA> :(
[06:02] <artbird309> NICKA: what happened
[06:02] <NICKA> it said
[06:02] <NICKA> the directory doesnt exist
[06:02] <klypso> anyone know how to set up a dual boot with linux
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> !dualboot | klypso
[06:03] <ubotu> klypso: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[06:03] <klypso> !dualboot ?
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualboot ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <klypso> thanks
[06:03] <artbird309> NICKA: did you install the linux-heaaders
[06:03] <NICKA> i dont know how
[06:03] <cerridwen> -a ;)
[06:03] <NICKA> so im assuming no lol
[06:04] <artbird309> NICKA: you need to install that first
[06:04] <willys_fueguino> How can i switch users on xubuntu edgy?
[06:04] <NICKA> ok
[06:04] <NICKA> hold on i found something
[06:04] <cerridwen> change between existing users?
[06:04] <NICKA> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-***
[06:04] <artbird309> NICKA: yes
[06:04] <NICKA> sweet
[06:05] <NICKA> what are the headers anyway?
[06:05] <levander> I created the admin group and added myself to it.  When I run the groups command, admin does show up in the output.  However, when I run user-admin from the Administration window, I still get: "You are not allowed access to the system configuration."
[06:05] <klypso> I get this error with grup:
[06:05] <klypso> 'Booting 'Microsoft Windows XP home edition'
[06:05] <klypso> root (hd0,0)
[06:05] <klypso> Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7
[06:05] <klypso> savedefault
[06:05] <klypso> makeactive
[06:05] <klypso> Error 29: Disk write error
[06:05] <levander> Any ideas what else to try?
[06:05] <wastrel> levander:  it is strange that an admin group didn't already exist on your system, since it is part of the default configuration
[06:06] <NICKA> ok all installed
[06:06] <NICKA> let me try now
[06:06] <levander> wastrel: I installed way back in the warty days.  That may have something to do with it.  But, do you know which package creates the admin group?
[06:06] <willys_fueguino> so no one can help me??
[06:06] <LameBMX> klypso, did ya pastbin your menu.lst file?
[06:06] <wastrel> levander:  it you should examine your /etc/sudoers file, look for:   %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:06] <levander> wastrel: I am upgraded to edgy now.
[06:07] <crimsun> willys_fueguino: did you provide any additional info after the reboot?
[06:07] <wastrel> levander:  if not visudo and add it
[06:07] <klypso> LameBMX: sorry, that is what?
[06:07] <netboix> does anyone here use madwifi?
[06:07] <levander> wastrel: it says "levander ALL=(ALL) ALL" - is that close enough?  levander is my user name
[06:07] <LameBMX> klypso, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ... nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:07] <SilentDis> willys_fueguino, i've not used xubuntu yet, and I'm not familiar with xcfe.  let me look around the web a little.
[06:08] <Mathew> Is there a way to change the look of alt+tab application switching?
[06:08] <alienseer23> could someone take a look at this and tell me if there is anything I can do to fix my 5.1?.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39279/
[06:08] <willys_fueguino> crimsun: I've got the same messages...
[06:08] <willys_fueguino> gdmflexiserver just wont run...
[06:08] <willys_fueguino> I'm going crazy with this....
[06:08] <crimsun> alienseer23: use -Dplug:surround51, not -Dsurround51
[06:08] <wastrel> levander:  seemingly it is not enough :]   i don't know specifically if gksudo or whatever the system->administration menu uses  needs that admin business, but it's not working now... so why not try adding it :] 
[06:09] <alienseer23> crimsun: ok
[06:09] <defiant> May I ask, has anyone ever heard of Freespire?
[06:09] <klypso> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39280/
[06:09] <noiesmo> defiant, yes its linspire's free version
[06:09] <defiant> noiesmo have you ever used it or heard anything about it. it looks nice.
[06:10] <levander> wastrel: tried editing it with visudo, ran users-admin, same thing
[06:10] <jp> un_operateur -- Thanks for your help .... my /etc/apt/sources.list works great now .... just like it should (|;-) a tip 'o the hat to ye!
[06:10] <arrenlex> How do people make commercial versions of Linux? Doesn't the fact that the kernel is GPL prevent them from releasing anything that uses the Linux kernel under anything other than the GPL?
[06:10] <klypso> LameBMX: know what to fix?
[06:10] <SilentDis> willys_fueguino, from what I can tell, just log out/back in to switch users.
[06:10] <alienseer23> crimsun: pretty much more of the same ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39281/
[06:10] <arrenlex> defiant: It's KDE. It looks just like kubuntu.
[06:10] <noiesmo> defiant, installed once was pretty bt you can mod kde or gnome to look good anywy and was a pain to add certain things like video and mp3 suport from memory
[06:11] <wastrel> levander:  log out & back in again?
[06:11] <defiant> noiesmo, Thanks.
[06:11] <levander> wastrel: brb
[06:11] <crimsun> alienseer23: what did you do to alsa-lib and your asoundrcs?
[06:11] <alienseer23> crimsun: I have no idea
[06:11] <LameBMX> klypso,
[06:12] <LameBMX> klypso, ill repost it with a proposed change
[06:12] <klypso> ok
[06:12] <levander> wastrel: same damn thing
[06:12] <crimsun> alienseer23: that's fairly unhelpful. What did you do? What steps did you take?
[06:13] <willys_fueguino> SilentDis: Doesn't works... if I do that the programs keep running, but I cant see them
[06:13] <NICKA> damn after all this i get some error
[06:13] <alienseer23> mostly just tried to edit .asoundrc, but reverted it back
[06:13] <NICKA> what the crap
[06:13] <crimsun> alienseer23: so pastebin your asoundrc(s)
[06:13] <alienseer23> there is only one
[06:13] <artbird309> NICKA: put it in here  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:14] <wastrel> levander:  i dunno - i'm a big dummy :]    how about running  users-admin  from the cli?
[06:14] <NICKA> ok
[06:14] <willys_fueguino> crimsun: I'm reading about a FUSA app (fast user switch applet), but I think it relies on gdmflexiserver
[06:14] <LameBMX> klypso, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39282/
[06:14] <NICKA> ill run through and get the error again real quick
[06:14] <LameBMX> klypso, rootnoverify ..
[06:14] <artbird309> NICKA: ok
[06:14] <alienseer23> crimsun: there is nothing there right now
[06:15] <klypso> LameBMX: i'll replace it, then reboot and see what happens.
[06:15] <klypso> LameBMX: thanks.
[06:15] <LameBMX> klypso, dont forget to backup the original
[06:15] <LameBMX> never replace ..
[06:16] <NICKA> oh crap
[06:16] <klypso> LameBMX: right, right
[06:16] <NICKA> it worked i need a serial
[06:16] <eegore> It still wants to hog the mic input but I can live with that
[06:16] <NICKA> ill registure real quick
[06:16] <eegore> well, I got teamspeak to work through the linux32 command chained to the aoss command and it is stable
[06:16] <alienseer23> crimsun: here is asoundrc.asoundconf~ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39283/
[06:16] <LameBMX> took me enough screwups to figure that one out
[06:17] <crimsun> alienseer23: ~/.asoundrc* , please.
[06:18] <alienseer23> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39284/
[06:18] <alienseer23> I tried to do this, earlier : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261317
[06:18] <Simplechat> within ubuntu, i've heard that it doesn't have a root account
[06:18] <Zelus> guys, i have a noob question. I just installed 6.10 on my inspiron 8200 but i can get the wireless to work, i see the signal strenth (77%) but hte status is disconnected. :(
[06:18] <Simplechat> yet you seem to have to enter your password to do system admin tasks
[06:18] <Simplechat> so, is your account a virtual root?
[06:19] <levander> wastrel: thanks for your help, i'm reading a bug report on launchpad, I think it was adding the admin group, and then having to restart dbus with the init.d script
[06:19] <willys_fueguino> crimsun: the fast-user-switch-applet is on the repos.. but if I apt-get it it tries to install the gnome-desktop
[06:19] <willys_fueguino> :-
[06:20] <wastrel> Simplechat:  the root account exists but doesn't have a password enabled.  the sudo system exists to allow you to perform system administration tasks.
[06:20] <netboix> I am attempting to follow these instructions http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1818971&postcount=6  but was wondering i only have the 6.10 installation cd and when i attempt to apt-get it tells me could not find the package and deos not ask for the cd.
[06:20] <alienseer23> crimsun: I also gave this a try http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~bondhugu/alsamch.shtml
[06:22] <alienseer23> crimsun: this is the last thing I tried http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39285/
[06:23] <fierce> Hey all.. i've got a problem I cant solve.  I am running a process but want to log out and keep it running, but I forgot to screen it.  How can I transfer this to a screen?  I tried to 'CTRL+Z' to suspend it, then run screen, then 'fg' inside of screen but it says no process found
[06:23] <fierce> How can I do this?
[06:24] <fierce> Hey all.. i've got a problem I cant solve.  I am running a process but want to log out and keep it running, but I forgot to screen it.  How can I transfer this to a screen?  I tried to 'CTRL+Z' to suspend it, then run screen, then 'fg' inside of screen but it says no process found.. How can I do this :(
[06:24] <alienseer23> crimsun: there was also an instruction about removing and replacing alsa if your sound was dead, whic it was, so i tried it, and it did not work...i even tried to compile alsa, which failed...so I removed the lot and reinstalled alsa, gdm and ubuntu desktop
[06:24] <fierce> errr
[06:24] <fierce> oops sorry for repeat
[06:25] <willys_fueguino> fierce: Im trying to do something similar...
[06:25] <willys_fueguino> but cant do it
[06:25] <fierce> willys_fueguino: darn
[06:25] <willys_fueguino> :-(
[06:25] <crimsun> alienseer23: I'll help you when I have a moment.
[06:25] <fierce> its driving me nuts
[06:25] <willys_fueguino> fierce: me to...
[06:25] <alienseer23> ok
[06:25] <wheels3572> What Program is it that I would use to load Windows inside of Linux?
[06:25] <wheels3572> that way I dont have to reboot my computer
[06:25] <fierce> wheels3572: wine?
[06:26] <wheels3572> ok
[06:26] <artbird309> wheels3572: vmware
[06:26] <fierce> ya
[06:26] <fierce> or vmware
[06:26] <willys_fueguino> fierce: I want to do something like the "switch users" that windows have
[06:26] <fierce> or isnt there another one.. cedega?
[06:26] <wheels3572> ok so it is vmware
[06:26] <fierce> willys_fueguino: nice
[06:26] <willys_fueguino> wheels3572: qemu
[06:26] <willys_fueguino> perhaps
[06:26] <wheels3572> !vmware
[06:26] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[06:27] <wastrel> you can switch users by going to quit > switch user
[06:27] <willys_fueguino> wastrel: nop
[06:27] <wastrel> i dunno about 'doze
[06:27] <willys_fueguino> wastrel: Im on xubuntu
[06:27] <willys_fueguino> and I dont have that option
[06:28] <NICKA> i think i got it
[06:28] <NICKA> im setting up windows xp
[06:28] <wastrel> i dunno about xubuntu perhaps the gurus in #xubuntu can assist
[06:28] <artbird309> NICKA: good
[06:28] <willys_fueguino> wastrel: already  tried there...
[06:29] <willys_fueguino> the gdmflexiserver can do that... but doesnt runs over here
[06:29] <willys_fueguino> then what about gdm loading 2 X sessions??
[06:30] <wastrel> we have a situation then
[06:30] <kadk> hey, is there any way to turn my debian box into a "network storage"; like everbody in the house(laptop, another pcs,etc) can store files on it just like a regular drive. is it possible for samba to do that?
[06:30] <machu> newbie: I recently changed permissions on /etc like this: sudo chown userid:userid  -R /etc    and now i'm getting this: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0.  How do I reverse what I've done to perform sudo commands?
[06:31] <artbird309> kadk: you could install freenas
[06:32] <kevin> is this the right place for monitor questions?
[06:32] <Asc> no, but it is a good place for GNU/monitor questions
[06:32] <jumbers>  What tends to be a good FTP server daemon? I'm running proftpd, but I don't know if there's something better out there
[06:33] <Lathiat> jumbers: pro isnt bad
[06:33] <Lathiat> jumbers: theres vsftpd, thats ok too
[06:33] <Lathiat> jumbers: requires a bit more config tho
[06:33] <artbird309> kadk: http://www.freenas.org/
[06:33] <jumbers> Lathiat: Thanks. :)
[06:34] <Zelus> guys, i have a noob question. I just installed 6.10 on my inspiron 8200 but i can get the wireless to work, i see the signal strenth (77%) but the status is disconnected. :( and i cant figure out how to switch it to connected.
[06:34] <jumbers> Does anybody know why Apache2, PHP, and MySQL aren't up to date in the Ubuntu repos?
[06:34] <levander> Does anyone know what this avahi daemon is?  When I restart dbus, I get some message that starting the avahi daemon failed.
[06:34] <Lathiat> Zelus: system->administration->networking ?
[06:34] <wasabi_> jumbers: if you mean in Edgy, it's because once it's released, new versions aren't released.
[06:34] <Lathiat> levander: yes avahi is used for service discovery
[06:35] <Dasnipa`> jumbers, the repos are updated every 6 months. the only updates that are done in the meantime are security related patches
[06:35] <levander> Lathiat: is it supposed to be running on my system?
[06:35] <levander> Lathiat: is it supposed to be running by default?
[06:35] <jumbers> I thought only kernels were snapshotted
[06:35] <wastrel> libavahi-core4 - Avahi's embeddable mDNS/DNS-SD library
[06:35] <wasabi_> jumbers: The entire distro is. Edgy is a point in time release.
[06:36] <levander> wasabi_: is the avahi daemon running on your system?
[06:36] <wasabi_> levander: Yes.
[06:36] <wastrel> seems to be a service discovery daemon
[06:36] <wasabi_> Avahi is hte zeroconf daemon.
[06:36] <wasabi_> So yes, serviced iscovery.
[06:36] <Zelus> Lathiat: in there its checked as enabled but i still have no connectivity. in the toolbar util it says disconnected
[06:36] <wastrel> i don't see avahi on my system.
[06:36] <jumbers> wasabi_: So in order to keep the latest versions of Apache, PHP, and MySQL, I have to either find repos for each or compile them manually?
[06:36] <wastrel> yes
[06:36] <wasabi_> jumbers: Or not care about them as much.
[06:37] <Lathiat> levander: its installed, but not enabled by default
[06:37] <jumbers> wasabi_: Well, there tend to be security updates in them
[06:37] <Vuen_> hey guys, at what time of day is the stuff in /etc/cron.daily ran? and how can i configure this?
[06:37] <wasabi_> Ubuntu backports security related fixes.
[06:37] <levander> Well, hell.  When I run "sudo /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon start", I get no output.  When I run "sudo /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon stop" it says it failed...
[06:37] <wasabi_> But only those fixes, not any new features.
[06:37] <wasabi_> Just small fixes.
[06:37] <wasabi_> You'll find those in edgy-security
[06:38] <Lathiat> levander: ah yeh
[06:38] <willys_fueguino> How can I load 2 X sessions with gdm?
[06:38] <Lathiat> levander: you can ignore that
[06:38] <Lathiat> it doesnt cause any issues
[06:38] <wasabi_> It fails to stop, because it's not started.
[06:38] <Lathiat> levander: basically by default it doesnt start, and it cant stop if it wasnt started (hence it 'fails' to stop)
[06:38] <Lathiat> but you can ignore that it doesnt cause any issues
[06:38] <levander> Lathiat: so, by default, it's not supposed to run?
[06:38] <Asc> willys_furguino: You've tried gdmflexisserver?
[06:38] <wasabi_> levander: Not yet anyways.
[06:38] <wastrel> so the boot message is some boot script chattering about avahi but not actually running it presumably.
[06:39] <Dasnipa`> jumbers, the reason it is done like that is because it is way too hard to keep up to date with every package possible. look at distros that have tried that... they have failed horribly (namely debian)
[06:39] <wasabi_> If you read /etc/default/avahi-daemon, you'll see, it's disabled by default.
[06:39] <levander> wasabi_: okay, cool.  Dunno why it's on my system then...
[06:39] <levander> wasabi_: thanks
[06:39] <wasabi_> levander: Another piece of software probably brought it in.
[06:39] <Vuen_> nevermind, found it
[06:39] <levander> wasabi_: It would be cool if I could find out which one.
[06:40] <Lathiat> levander: its installed by default
[06:40] <wasabi_> Try removing it, see what wants to go. :)
[06:40] <Lathiat> levander: on edgy
[06:40] <wasabi_> Is avahi installed by default on edgy? Didn't know that.
[06:40] <wasabi_> Just not enabled?
[06:40] <Lathiat> its just disabled by default
[06:40] <Lathiat> correct
[06:40] <wasabi_> k
[06:40] <levander> Lathiat: so, why did they decide to install it?
[06:40] <Lathiat> system->administration->networking || "general" tab there is a tickbox to enable it
[06:40] <Lathiat> levander: so it can be easily enabled
[06:40] <Lathiat> in feisty it will be enabled by default
[06:40] <levander> Lathiat: "sudo aptitude avahi-daemon" isn't easy enough?
[06:41] <Lathiat> no :)
[06:41] <levander> I guess it isn't, I forgot to put install in that command.
[06:41] <soloik> hi
[06:41] <Lathiat> haha
[06:41] <levander> Lathiat: I read about avahi, it sounds cool, but does anyone use it besides Ubuntu?
[06:41] <Lathiat> levander: lots of people
[06:41] <Lathiat> FC6, RHEL5
[06:41] <Lathiat> i think it may even be in a debian etch desktop install
[06:42] <crimsun> it's always humorous to ask an upstream developer if his software is even used.
[06:42] <levander> Lathiat: okay, so it's becoming more popular...
[06:42] <crimsun> =)
[06:42] <Lathiat> (FWIW, I'm one of the authors of the project :)
[06:42] <Lathiat> levander: yeh, first version was released ~18 months ago now
[06:42] <Lathiat> its gaining in popularity :)
[06:42] <voraistos> Hello, i have a permission related question... Do we (like in windows if i remember) have a possibility to set diferent permissions for different groups and different users for the same file instead of one user, one group and one everybody else ?
[06:42] <Lathiat> its protocol-compatible with the apple bonjour stuff
[06:42] <Lathiat> so itunes sharing, etc,
[06:42] <levander> Lathiat: so, with avahi, and support on those Linux distros, you could just auto discover all these computers on the network?
[06:42] <Lathiat> levander: correct
[06:42] <wasabi_> voraistos: Yes, there are ACLs.
[06:42] <Lathiat> altho its not so much to discover the "computers"
[06:43] <Lathiat> as services
[06:43] <wasabi_> voraistos: There just aren't any good UIs for them.
[06:43] <Lathiat> for example if you have ekiga open, and you open it on another machine, you can see that person in the auto-discovered list to call
[06:43] <levander> Lathiat: well, if it's not so much, what's the big deal?
[06:43] <ddaemon> what configuration sets the options for display resolutions available in the screen resolution preference panel?
[06:43] <wasabi_> ddaemon: The graphics card and monitor combo itself, hopefully ;)
[06:43] <voraistos> wasabi_ ACLs? can you be more specific ?
[06:43] <Lathiat> and in rhythmbox you can enable music sharing (Edit->Preferences->Sharing) then anyone that opens rhythmbox can see your music and play from your collection
[06:44] <Lathiat> levander: not so much for ""COMPUTERS"" as 'services' running on those computers
[06:44] <wasabi_> voraistos: Access COntrol Lists. That's what WIndows calls them too.
[06:44] <wasabi_> voraistos: You'll have to look up POSIX ACLs online someplace. I don't really want to explain them in IRC.
[06:44] <ddaemon> wasabi_ is there anyway to manually override the options?
[06:44] <wasabi_> ddaemon: Probably. =)
[06:44] <levander> Lathiat: I assume there are permissions you can set through this avahi thing, yes?
[06:44] <Lathiat> levander: permissions?
[06:44] <voraistos> wasabi_ thank you, i just wanted a bit more eplanation to actually know what to google :P
[06:44] <ddaemon> i've got a situation where I know the card and monitor can both drive at higher than 640x480, but that is my only option
[06:44] <levander> Lathiat: like if i only want certain people accessing my Rythmbox library.
[06:45] <Lathiat> levander: no, thats up to the application
[06:45] <Lathiat> levander: you can set a password on RB shares i think
[06:45] <Lathiat> but access control is not built into avahi itself
[06:45] <elyon> Hello
[06:45] <Lathiat> the application has to layer that on top
[06:45] <wasabi_> avahi, btw, is an implementation of "bonjour", which is what APple invented. ... also called Rendevous at some point.
[06:45] <levander> Lathiat: it's starting to make sense, I guess it's installed by default on Edgy to encourage application developers to support it?  It's a political thing including it.  To show support.
[06:45] <wasabi_> And sometimes "zeroconf"
[06:45] <Lathiat> levander: its included because they want to support it, BUT
[06:45] <Rookie_> create a group and let that group be the one who is allowed to access the map, put current users in that group if necesery
[06:46] <Lathiat> levander: ubuntu had a "no open ports" policy
[06:46] <Lathiat> levander: this is something that is changing a little bit it seems
[06:46] <levander> Lathiat: ahhhh, no open ports, this makes sense
[06:46] <levander> Lathiat: yeah
[06:46] <Lathiat> i guess also as avahi matures a bit they feel more confident in it
[06:46] <Lathiat> it tries to be pretty secure
[06:46] <Lathiat> drops privs, chroots, etc
[06:46] <elyon> Is there any kind of Windows - To - Ubuntu migration guide out there?
[06:46] <Lathiat> we've had 1 crasher, and 1 bug that makes it eat 100% CPU, no exploitable bugs as yet
[06:46] <Lathiat> .. so far :\
[06:47] <Lathiat> i'm mildly afraid of the day someone finds one :/ hah
[06:47] <Wolfgang> yes    the link from windows to ubuntu is here:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[06:47] <artbird309> elyon: google it
[06:47] <Lathiat> hopefully never *G*
[06:47] <elyon> Thanks, Wolfgang
[06:47] <Wolfgang> No Problem :P
[06:47] <orestyle9> I have an fstab setup that is not working (mounting on reboot) but does work with mount -a.  Any ideas?
[06:47] <levander> Lathiat: thanks for explaining, it's making more sense.  I'll probably be using avahi as an end user before too long.
[06:48] <Lathiat> levander: woo ;)
[06:48] <levander> orestyle9: is it a network mount that isn't working?
[06:48] <Lathiat> levander: if you need any help with it, feel free to stop past #avahi
[06:48] <levander> Lathiat: thanks
[06:49] <orestyle9> levander:  yes, both a raid array and a network share.  Both not working.
[06:49] <levander> orestyle9: maybe the network isn't loaded when the machine is trying to mount the volume during bootup?
[06:49] <pluto> Can someone please tell me the ubuntu equivilant of this directory?  /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input
[06:49] <orestyle9> levander:  For the raid array, I thought that maybe the drivers where not loading in time, but for a network share.
[06:50] <levander> orestyle9: the network still has to come up before it can be mounted
[06:50] <orestyle9> levander:  it works when I do a mount -a
[06:50] <kdub> i need help getting dual monitors to work with an ati card
[06:50] <artbird309> what would be better for a server install 6.06 or 6.10
[06:50] <levander> orestyle9: yeah, but by the time you do "mount -a" the network is already up
[06:51] <levander> artbird309: if you need commercial support 6.06
[06:51] <soloik> when i update the system  the kernel also chages?
[06:51] <levander> artbird309: if you want to upgrade to feisty, 6.10
[06:51] <levander> soloik: sometimes
[06:51] <pluto> Can someone please tell me the ubuntu equivilant of this directory?  /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input
[06:51] <artbird309> levander: what is better about feisty
[06:52] <orestyle9> levander:  Ya, its an existing network, been up for a long time.  This server is the system that goes up and down (but is not the master domain controller)
[06:52] <abhinay> how to get write permissions for ext3 drive ?   i have given ,  /dev/hda6	/media/hda6     ext3    users,rw        0       0      in fstab
[06:52] <levander> artbird309: it's just the next release of feisty, some things it will have is integrated beryl, better xen support...
[06:52] <levander> next release of *ubuntu* i meant
[06:52] <orestyle9> abhinay:  have you tried auto where the ext3 is?
[06:53] <artbird309> levander: it is a server so I don't need beryl
[06:53] <kdub> anyone know how to get beryl running on dual monitors?
[06:53] <orestyle9> abhinay:  never mind...
[06:53] <varsendaggr> how do i iopen a .rar
[06:53] <abhinay> orestyle9, it is ext3 file type, why auto, it 'll not gonna work
[06:53] <jisatsu_> varsendaggr: install the rar and unrar packages
[06:53] <levander> artbird309: do you know whether or not the option of professional support is important?  Like do you want to be able to call somebody a year from now and have them help you fix it?  Without having to upgrade your software the whole time?
[06:54] <levander> artbird309: 6.06 is LTS (long-term support) - Ubuntu will support it for 2 years - wait, maybe it's five, I don't remember
[06:54] <juan> are there any good guides to understanding xorg?
[06:54] <Dasnipa`> levander, 2 years for desktop 5 for server i believe
[06:54] <artbird309> levander: no it is for a school
[06:54] <levander> artbird309: 6.10 is just another release with no commitment to LTS
[06:54] <orestyle9> abhinay:  I have a system with ext3 and we use defaults where you have users,rw
[06:55] <kdub> edgy is lts
[06:55] <levander> artbird309: if it goes down, what's the damage?
[06:55] <Dasnipa`> kdub, edgy is not lts
[06:55] <levander> artbird309: how much money do you lose?
[06:55] <orestyle9> abhinay:  I think that applies the permissions from the device itself
[06:55] <abhinay> orestyle9, because the default option didn't work for me , so i gave users, rw
[06:55] <Dasnipa`> kdub, edgy will be supported 6 months as usual and then feisty will come out and probably be supported for 6 months as well
[06:55] <artbird309> levander: I do not think any it is a school of about 120 seats
[06:55] <levander> artbird309: is this server something you are interested in working with, or is it just something you need to have?
[06:56] <willys_fueguino> I CANT SWITCH USERS!
[06:56] <kdub> 6.06 is though?
[06:56] <artbird309> willys_fueguino: I would be runing it
[06:56] <levander> artbird309: do you want to spend time with ubuntu, or do you just want something tha tworks?
[06:56] <Dasnipa`> 6.06 dapper drake. is LTS
[06:56] <soloik> what is the best way for changes my kernel of 2.6.17-10-generic a  2.6.19.1 for amd64
[06:56] <Dasnipa`> i wouldnt expect another LTS until at least dapper support for desktop ends
[06:56] <Dasnipa`> so 2 years
[06:56] <Dasnipa`> well 1.5 years
[06:57] <artbird309> levander: I don't know
[06:57] <levander> artbird309: like, when mysql comes out with version 5.1 of their database, do you want to be able to upgrade fairly soon, or do you care if you upgrade ever?
[06:57] <levander> artbird309: you have more evaluating to do, what is the deadline for getting this box up?
[06:57] <artbird309> levander: next year
[06:57] <artbird309> levander: next school year
[06:57] <Dasnipa`> oh lol
[06:58] <Dasnipa`> next year i was like haha 3 days?
[06:58] <levander> artbird309: how much time do you have to spend evaluating?
[06:58] <willys_fueguino> Im so tired with this... I cant get gdmflexiserver to work...
[06:58] <levander> artbird309: is this a task that you want to accomplish, or is this something you're interested in looking into?
[06:58] <ShakaGoldSaint> hi, one stupid question, does synaptic have a fullscreen mode?
[06:58] <willys_fueguino> someone please help me...
[06:58] <willys_fueguino> ShakaGoldSaint: no
[06:58] <wasabi_> ShakaGoldSaint: it has a maximize button
[06:58] <artbird309> levander: I want to
[06:58] <levander> when I say accomplish, i mean accomplish quickly
[06:59] <ShakaGoldSaint> ehmmm, then what is this.....
[06:59] <levander> artbird309: want to what?
[06:59] <artbird309> levander: accomplish it
[06:59] <levander> artbird309: quickly?
[06:59] <levander> artbird309: is this just something you are trying to get done?
[06:59] <artbird309> levander: no I have till june
[06:59] <levander> artbird309: but, how much personal time do you want to invest?
[07:00] <artbird309> levander: 3 hour a week
[07:00] <weem> yo
[07:00] <levander> artbird309: are you a teacher at this school?
[07:00] <ShakaGoldSaint> http://eleazar.teamma.net/Pantallazo.png willys_fueguino
[07:00] <artbird309> levander: no student
[07:00] <levander> artbird309: are you interested in computers?
[07:01] <artbird309> levander: yes
[07:01] <levander> artbird309: do you want to learn more about them?  or, just get this job done?
[07:01] <levander> artbird309: if they are having a student put the computer up, it's probably not mission critical
[07:01] <willys_fueguino> ShakaGoldSaint: nice
[07:01] <artbird309> levander:  I am doing tech stuff right now
[07:01] <ShakaGoldSaint> willys_fueguino,  
[07:02] <dan__> how do I install usb wireless adapters?
[07:02] <levander> artbird309: go to ubuntu.com, and first read about edubuntu and see if you need any of that stuff, then download either ubuntu or edubuntu 6.10
[07:02] <artbird309> levander: I am the 2 in tech there
[07:02] <levander> artbird309: what is a "2 in tech"?
[07:02] <artbird309> levander: number 2 in the tech side of the school
[07:02] <dan__> or just have them mail it to you
[07:03] <levander> artbird309: you are ranked number 2?
[07:03] <Pirate-king> what is the best and easiest program to web cam with?
[07:03] <levander> amongst the students?
[07:03] <artbird309> levander: yes
[07:03] <levander> artbird309: good for you
[07:03] <artbird309> levander: not techers
[07:03] <levander> artbird309: go for edgy, version 6.10 i think
[07:03] <artbird309> levander: ok
[07:03] <Adramelech> Pirate-king: aMsn only one i tried
[07:03] <artbird309> levander: I will play with that
[07:03] <levander> artbird309: all you have to do is download the CD, then you can see if the computer is compatible with it by running Ubuntu off the CD
[07:04] <levander> artbird309: after you decide if Ubuntu is going to work on that computer, then you can isntall Ubuntu onto the hard drive.
[07:04] <ShakaGoldSaint> so synaptic doesn't have fullscreen http://eleazar.teamma.net/Pantallazo.png  :(, then what is this? :S and how can i fix it?
[07:04] <levander> artbird309: it's important to do it in that order
[07:04] <llindy> pirate-king, I have yet to find anything to cam with, and I use Ubuntu 6.06
[07:04] <levander> artbird309: if ubuntu doesn't work on that computer, it's probably too much to ask someone new to ubuntu to get it to work...
[07:04] <weem> /j #bcm-dev
[07:05] <weem> niceee
[07:05] <jw_606> Hello
[07:05] <Pirate-king> dam
[07:05] <levander> artbird309: although, with determination, you could probably get it to work
[07:05] <siv0x> how do i "run as root" - i'm trying to figure out how to set my graphics card up with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:05] <jw_606> Can I get some help using the make command please?
[07:05] <llindy> pirate-king.. I have a dual boot, and have to boot into MS to cam, and use gAIM in Ubuntu
[07:05] <levander> artbird309: if it doesn't work, hopefully you have another computer to try it on
[07:05] <artbird309> levander: We have not got the servers yet it is going to be a Dell rack server so I think it will work
[07:05] <llindy> pirate-king, no compat drivers for cams..:(
[07:05] <jw_606> I forgot what I used last time I tryed to compile something, it was something like 'make prepare all' ? does that look right?
[07:05] <Adramelech> Pirate-king: aMsn support webcams
[07:05] <dan__> are there any wireless adapters made for ubuntu?
[07:06] <Pirate-king> pretty compicated to set up
[07:06] <Pirate-king> amsn?///
[07:06] <llindy> yes, they may support the cams ok, but there are no cpmpat drivers thatI can find, and I have a Cretaive cam, and a logitech
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> dan__: Made for, no.  That work with, yes.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:06] <Adramelech> Pirate-king: aMsn is on repos
[07:06] <Pirate-king> I have a logitec for notebooks
[07:06] <dan__> ok ill look
[07:06] <Pirate-king> in kubuntu?
[07:07] <levander> artbird309: make sure it will work before you buy it
[07:07] <llindy> *creative labs, and logitech
[07:07] <Adramelech> llindy: my creative old cam works fine with xpia drivers
[07:07] <artbird309> levander: How would I go about doing that
[07:07] <Pirate-king> repos = repositorys? correct?
[07:07] <dan__> ty
[07:07] <llindy> hmmmm, I cant even get the disk to read, and USB plug and play wont work on my model
[07:07] <Adramelech> Pirate-king: yes, look for it on synaptic
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> Pirate-king: yes
[07:08] <Adramelech> llindy: mine is parallel but cpia supports usb i think
[07:08] <Pirate-king> I know Im in ubuntu I have kubuntu synaptic I think is in ubuntu...
[07:08] <llindy> hmmm, Ill have to check that out, thanks
[07:09] <llindy> yes, synaptic is in Ubuntu
[07:09] <Adramelech> llindy: modprobe cpia_usb as root
[07:09] <llindy> oh, ok
[07:09] <Pirate-king> I know Im in ubuntu channeI I have kubuntu synaptic I think is in ubuntu...
[07:10] <artbird309> Pirate-king It use the same system so it will work the same
[07:10] <Adramelech> Pirate-king: do you have universe enable?
[07:11] <Pirate-king> not that I know off
[07:11] <Pirate-king> pretty new at this linux stuff
[07:11] <llindy> adramelech:modprobe cpia_usb invalid operation
[07:12] <Pirate-king> how do you enable universe???????????
[07:12] <artbird309> Pirate-king: trie asking in the #kubuntu
[07:12] <Adramelech> Pirate: setting->repositories
[07:12] <Pirate-king> yeah not really any one ther to answer
[07:13] <llindy> adramelech: E: Couldn't find package modprobe
[07:13] <llindy> root@lindy:/home/lindy#
[07:13] <orestyle9> anyone help with mounting network shares through fstab?
[07:13] <artbird309> Pirate-king: did you trie setting->repositories
[07:14] <Pirate-king> system settings then repositories
[07:14] <Adramelech> llindy: those 3 lines are the whole output?
[07:14] <llindy> yes
[07:14] <artbird309> Pirate-king: no the setting in kubuntu synaptic
[07:14] <Wolfgang> Is there a list for checking compatabilty for Ubuntu with wireless network cards and routers?
[07:14] <Wolfgang> I use Linksys for both
[07:14] <siv0x> Can someone tell me how to get my latest nvidia drivers, for an nvidia geforce 6800 ? i used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is that all i need to do?
[07:15] <llindy> adramelech: root@lindy:/home/lindy# modprobe cpia_usb
[07:15] <llindy> root@lindy:/home/lindy# mine
[07:15] <llindy> bash: mine: command not found
[07:15] <llindy> root@lindy:/home/lindy# sudo apt-get modprobe cpia_usb
[07:15] <llindy> E: Invalid operation modprobe
[07:15] <llindy> root@lindy:/home/lindy# modprobe cpia_usb
[07:15] <llindy> root@lindy:/home/lindy# sudo apt-get install modprobe cpia_usb
[07:15] <llindy> Reading package lists... Done
[07:15] <llindy> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:15] <artbird309> Wolfgang: the router will work
[07:15] <llindy> E: Couldn't find package modprobe
[07:15] <llindy> root@lindy:/home/lindy#
[07:15] <iovanalex> anyone has instaled ubuntu on a dell gx620 ?
[07:15] <artbird309> iovanalex: what is that
[07:15] <wastrel> why did you put all that junk in the channel mr llindy?
[07:15] <Adramelech> llindy: modporbe is part of the system is the way to load modules
[07:16] <llindy> Um, I didnt know what to do
[07:16] <llindy> ok
[07:16] <Adramelech> llindy: what you are trying to do is to load cpia_usb module
[07:16] <siv0x> Can someone tell me how to get my latest nvidia drivers, for an nvidia geforce 6800 ? i used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is that all i need to do?
[07:16] <llindy> oh, ok, thanks, I have been working and working on this, 6 mos new to Ubuntu
[07:17] <Adramelech> llindy: me too
[07:17] <barata> hallo, how to lame a wav FROM 00.00.00 second to 05.02.39 for instance?
[07:17] <Adramelech> llindy: as i see your output it should work now
[07:17] <Wolfgang> artbird309 thanks
[07:17] <barata> lame -b 192 ..... ?
[07:17] <llindy> ok, will try now, thanks much
[07:17] <freebse> hi how do I change the space between icons on a kde desktop
[07:17] <llindy> :)
[07:17] <Adramelech> llindy: have to do that everytime you reboot
[07:17] <llindy> yikes, ok
[07:17] <Adramelech> llindy: or add it in etc/modules i think
[07:17] <palomer> hello
[07:17] <llindy> ok, will do
[07:17] <palomer> I'd like to input japanese from scim to skype
[07:18] <palomer> not working
[07:18] <palomer> anyone have any suggestions?
[07:18] <cntb> http://pangea001.upc.es/ubuntu-dvd-torrents/
[07:18] <siv0x> Can someone tell me how to get my latest nvidia drivers, for an nvidia geforce 6800 ? i used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is that all i need to do?
[07:18] <artbird309> siv0x: go to nvidia.com
[07:18] <weem> anyone here Wardrive?
[07:19] <Adramelech> siv0x: do you want the propietary drivers?
[07:19] <jisatsu_> siv0x: nvidia-glx should work fine
[07:19] <Simplechat> is there any way to troubleshoot a ubuntu cd that won't boot
[07:19] <siv0x> I'm planning on running games later on, i want my newest drivers.
[07:19] <artbird309> Simplechat:  md5sum
[07:19] <Adramelech> siv0x: open source drivers supports only 2d acc, propietary ones support 2d and 3d
[07:20] <jisatsu_> siv0x: install the nvidia-glx package and configure it with [insert command I can't remember] 
[07:20] <Simplechat> art: tried that, it crashes around grub
[07:20] <siv0x> Okay, whats the command to install the nvidia-glx?
[07:20] <Simplechat> so it won't check
[07:20] <Asc> weem: It's illegal last I checked, but if you're looking for a way to find nearby wireless networks, you might try installing 'network-manager-gnome'
[07:20] <Simplechat> i've tried it on about 5 dvd's now
[07:20] <jisatsu_> siv0x: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:20] <Simplechat> including half a dousin other distros (ubuntu, fedora core 6, pclinuxos...)
[07:21] <Shocka311> I downloaded some KDE programs and my X is Gnome and when I try to get help for the KDE programs it says " could not launch the KDE Help center: Could not find service 'khelpcenter'." where can I downloat the nececary files for the help menus in all my KDE programs?
[07:21] <siv0x> k
[07:21] <jisatsu_> then you'll need to edit a file to enable it
[07:21] <artbird309> Shocka311: you need to install KDE Help
[07:21] <Simplechat> ?
[07:21] <siv0x> Okay.. you dont remember how?
[07:21] <Simplechat> any ideas?
[07:21] <jisatsu_> siv0x: 2 secs and I'll check my config
[07:21] <siv0x> Thanks
[07:22] <freebse> siv0x: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable , maybe this works, if it does not (some Ubuntu versions are broken here) you need to setup x manuell
[07:22] <Shocka311> artbird309: where do I find KDE help to download it?
[07:22] <cntb> artbird309:  how to install kde help ?
[07:22] <artbird309> Shocka311: sudo apt-get install kdehelp?
[07:22] <voraistos> hey has anyone tried listen media player ?
[07:22] <jisatsu_> siv0x: /etc/X11/xorg.conf find a line something like this: Driver          "nv" change nv to nvidia and save it
[07:23] <siv0x> jisatsu: it said my x config has been changed, system needs to reboot to get full advantages out of this, does that mean it works?
[07:23] <Shocka311> artbird309: let me try that.
[07:23] <cntb> sudo apt-get install kdehelp ?? artbird309?
[07:23] <artbird309> cntb ?
[07:23] <cntb> ty
[07:23] <jisatsu_> hm. weird, didn't work for me before. reboot, but it didn't necessarily activate the driver, might need to do it manually
[07:23] <tim167> how can I automate saving a scanned document to 2 filetypes ? (now I have to do it in Gimp but it's soo tedious) thanks
[07:24] <Shocka311> artbird309: it said "E: Couldn't find package kdehelp
[07:24] <siv0x> okay, so you want me to reboot and come back?
[07:25] <freebse> siv0x: normally rebooting does not have an effect, restarting x will do it
[07:25] <jw_606> Can someone help me with an error please? Here is the error, its probably something simple http://paste.getlinuxhelp.org/64903
[07:26] <artbird309> Shocka311: let me look
[07:26] <Adramelech> Shoka311: i think you need kde desktop to get that
[07:26] <siv0x> freebse: how do i restart x? - been about a year that i've used linux..
[07:26] <Adramelech> siv0x: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[07:26] <siv0x> K
[07:26] <tim167> I need to automate / script the following: scan a document at 300 dpi, save it to a .pgm file, then save it as .jpg file, close file, wait for following scan command... how do I do that ?
[07:26] <Adramelech> Siv0x:but wait a min
[07:26] <freebse> siv0x: CTRL ALT Backspace when you are in X
[07:27] <Adramelech> siv0x: You know hot to recover if that dont work?
[07:29] <jadacyrus> I've been running Dual Head on nvidia for some time now and all of a sudden my desktop backgrounds are behaving like im not running twinview, (ie Center puts the background in the center between the two monitors, not centered on each monitor like it used to) , however maximizing windows and everything else still behaves like im using twinview
[07:30] <barata> hallo, how to lame a wav FROM 00.00.00 second to 05.02.39 for instance?
[07:30] <tim167> how can I script this: aquire a document from scanner, generate a sequential filename, save to both a *.pgm file and a .jpg file, await  following scan command... any ideas at all ? thanks
[07:30] <bjv> !xorg
[07:30] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:31] <Shocka311> in synaptic package manager what does it indicate if a check box is green but not checked?
[07:31] <bjv> ubuntu decided that we should not be able to resize our desktops?
[07:31] <bjv> ctr-alt- +/- doesnt seem to work for me anymore
[07:31] <bjv> *in edgy
[07:32] <wastrel> bjv:  num lock?  i dunno i'm on a laptop & have no numpad :] 
 ubuntu decided that we should not be able to resize our desktops? ---> imposible, just back up, partition & put it back
[07:32] <Adramelech> Shoka311: I think your refering that is going to be installed
[07:32] <bjv> no, i mean change the resolution of the running x server
[07:32] <wastrel> bjv also check system > preferences > screen resolution
[07:33] <Shocka311> adramelech: but they're not checked.
 no, i mean change the resolution of the running x server --> run xconfig
 no, i mean change the resolution of the running x server --> run xconfig Xorg
[07:33] <jisatsu_> by default, is there a keystroke to open the "Applications" menu?
[07:33] <Shocka311> adramelech: most of the check boxes are white and uncheked but some are green.
[07:34] <Adramelech> Shocka311: oh, means its installed already
[07:34] <wastrel> Shocka311:  the "check" thing may look different depending on your gtk/gnome theme
[07:34] <wastrel> what do i know i don't use synaptic
[07:34] <Shocka311> adramelech: iah they are packages I already have some version installed
[07:34] <bjv> yeah, i guess i can use stuff like gnome-control-center to change the res.
[07:34] <Shocka311> I got it, thanks
[07:34] <bjv> i just liked the hotkeys in xorg.
[07:35] <bjv> they seem disabled at compile time?
[07:35] <Adramelech> bjv: Maybe is cause of xorg 7.1
[07:35] <jadacyrus> I've been running Dual Head on nvidia for some time now and all of a sudden my desktop backgrounds are behaving like im not running twinview, (ie Center puts the background in the center between the two monitors, not centered on each monitor like it used to) , however maximizing windows and everything else still behaves like im using twinview
[07:35] <Adramelech> bjv: lots of changes to this version
[07:35] <bjv> ah well.
[07:35] <bjv> back to WoW, ill fix xorg later. ~_~
[07:36] <Adramelech> jw_606: still need hwlp with ur pastbin?
[07:36] <Shocka311> artbird309: I found a khelp, let me see if this is the one with all the help files
[07:37] <mdious> hi everyone
[07:37] <bruenig> !hi | mdious
[07:37] <ubotu> mdious: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:39] <Asc> I'm experiencing a problem wherein window managers, upon viewing my home directory, try to eat all my RAM.  Is there anything to be done about this?
[07:39] <Asc> and by 'window managers', I mean 'file managers'
[07:39] <bruenig> Asc, how much do you have in your home directory, I could see if you had thousands of files in it, when it tried to display them all really exploding
[07:39] <barata> what do you use Asc? Konqueror?
[07:39] <momal> How can I kill a process from command "kill -9 PID" I run that and it is still running help!!.. I need a way to kill it without rebooting.
[07:40] <Shocka311> artbird309: that was it, thanks for checkin.
[07:40] <artbird309> Shocka311: cool
[07:40] <barata> kill -15 momal
[07:40] <Asc> bruenig, nothing exceptional.  Fifty or so if you count hidden.
[07:40] <barata> or kill -KILL
[07:40] <mdious> Asc:  don't use kde but apparently disabling ipv6 speeds up konqueror or something....dunno if that helps...might only be for browsing network shares and stuff
[07:40] <Asc> barata, it's happened under nautilus, thunar, and probably pcmanfm
[07:41] <mister_roboto> barata, that won't work  KILL *is* -9
[07:41] <barata> nautilus is unstable, I never use it ....
[07:41] <mister_roboto> barata: probably he doesn't own the process
[07:41] <Asc> nautilus was kind of a pain because it draws the gnome desktop
[07:41] <mister_roboto> momal: try sudo
[07:41] <barata> if that happens to me mister_roboto, I'll just use ksysguard to kill it
[07:41] <momal> barata: It didn't die :S... | mister_roboto: Im running under root account already program was run under root
[07:41] <freebse> nautilus is allright when you start it --browser --no-desktop
[07:42] <barata> if it still doesnt work, I'll go to init 1
[07:42] <bruenig> Asc, it doesn't make sense, it doesn't do it anywhere else?
[07:42] <mrmoke>    /quit
[07:42] <bruenig> mrmoke, try it without the 7 spaces
[07:43] <Asc> bruenig: Nope, nowhere.
[07:43] <cyphase> does anyone know of any way to access Evolution via Python?
[07:43] <bruenig> Asc, any weird files maybe a weird extension or something that it is trying to assign to an icon or something, grabbing a straws
[07:43] <bruenig> at*
[07:44] <Asc> bruenig, I don't think so.  It doesn't happen every time either.
[07:45] <Asc> ...it's weird.  Nautilus used to do it when viewing the directory, but now does it every time gnome starts.  Others do it intermittently when viewing the directory.
[07:48] <artbird309> How do I find my hostname for a shell
[07:48] <rcbaxter> Has anyone gotten the MonoDevelop Version Control Addin to work?
[07:49] <Adramelech> Asc: Nautilus 100% cpu usage is a bug
[07:49] <Adramelech> Asc: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/54684
[07:49] <weem> anyone here Wardrive?
[07:50] <Asc> adramelch: It's more of 100% memory usage, though I've not been watching the CPU when it happens
[07:50] <h3xis> weem, back in the day
[07:50] <weem> damn
[07:50] <weem> lol
[07:52] <gephalt> what man page do i need to look at in order to understand /etc/network/interfaces?
[07:52] <Asc> 'man ingerfaces'
[07:53] <gephalt> Asc: ok.
[07:53] <timfrost> artbird309: HN=`hostname` will set variable HN to the hostname.  Is that what you want?
[07:53] <artbird309> timfrost: yes
[07:54] <gaten> !wireless
[07:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:54] <gwark> what does cpu softlock mean, and how could it have hapen al of s sudden??
[07:56] <Siv0x> Okay.. i'm back and after i used ctrl+alt+backspace it wouldnt let me go back to my desktop. so i restarted and it still wouldnt.. there for i tried safe mode and it still wouldnt, gave me an error each time. so i reformatted.
[07:56] <wastrel> my old crappy laptop doesn't power down when i shut down - how do i fix this ?
[07:56] <Adramelech> Siv0x: fast reformat in history
[07:57] <Adramelech> Sv0x: i asked you if you know how to recover your system but left too soon
[07:57] <gwark> my ubuntu stopped booting due to "cpu softlock" any one know what the cause of that could be please?
[07:57] <Siv0x> Adramelech: lol its all good man.
[07:57] <Siv0x> Adramelech: was it startx?
[07:57] <Adramelech> Siv0x: to start X server
[07:58] <Adramelech> Siv0x: look is a good practice to backup your config files before doing something
[07:58] <Adramelech> Siv0x: And to avoid reinstalling, you can surf the web from command line using lynx
[07:59] <Siv0x> All i am trying to do now is, get my nvidia drivers working, and detect my sound card.
[07:59] <Shocka311> is there anything I can do to increase my pc's speed besides adding more ram and more memory?
[07:59] <Adramelech> Siv0x: install invidia-glx
[07:59] <Siv0x> k.
[07:59] <Adramelech> Siv0x i think you did that already last time right?
[07:59] <abhinay> Iam getting this message when iam trying to mount ntfs drive : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39290/
[08:00] <abhinay> It says go to windows and shutdown properly, but i don't have windows here
[08:00] <gephalt> is it necessary to have a software router configured (i cannot use a hardware router) in order to minimize network congestion and that sort of thing? this is a standalone network- 35 PCs that needs to be able to talk to each other- no internet connection
[08:01] <abhinay> Anybody help ?
[08:01] <Siv0x> Adramelech: yes, but one sec. still updating.
[08:01] <Adramelech> abhinay: Bad think, i thing is that hardrive is marked as it need a check
[08:01] <Adramelech> abhinay: currently u can only unmark it from windows
[08:01] <Adramelech> abhinay: more info on ntfs-3g site
[08:01] <abhinay> Adramelech, hmm...
[08:02] <klypso> LameBMX: hey
[08:02] <Adramelech> abhinay: Run 'ntfsfix' on Linux which will reset the NTFS journal.
[08:02] <Adramelech> abhinay: you did that?
[08:02] <toulouse> hey guys, i was going to try another flavor of linux, so i burnt the cd... but when i started the comp. with the cd in there, it didnt boot into the linux i wanted to try... do you guys know what i can do to fix this
[08:02] <klypso> LameBMX: Thanks for your help, it all worked out.
[08:02] <abhinay> Adramelech, that didn't work
[08:03] <klypso> hey I have a terminal question
[08:03] <NeoLithium> toulouse: Check if your system boots from the CD drive first (It's a selection in BIOS)
[08:03] <Adramelech> abhinay: to be honest that happened to me and i fixed ot going into windows and closing it properly :P
[08:03] <Siv0x> Adramelech, okay you want me to sodu apt-get install invidia-glx ?
[08:03] <Shocka311> anybody have any sugestions, I just added a slave hard drive and some new ram, is there anything I can do besides adding more ram that will help my system run faster?
[08:03] <Adramelech> Siv0x: yes
[08:03] <toulouse> oo boy, ive never messed with bios bfore, what do i look for?
[08:03] <klypso> if I had a terminal program that I wanted to use out of the folder, how would I add it to a PATH (the thing used on windows) for linux?
[08:04] <Adramelech> Shocka311 tweaking your system but i wont recommend that if your are new to ubuntu
[08:04] <NeoLithium> toulouse: Just look around the settings, there should be something in there like BOOT: with several options, just select CD drive first, I don't remember exactly what it said, but it's pretty easy to spot.
[08:04] <Siv0x> Adramelech: it said E: Couldn't find package invidia-glx - maybe i should restart my computer.. these updates just got done and the invidia-glx might have been in those updates?
[08:04] <toulouse> ok, it's not a grub problem is it?
[08:04] <Xbehave> shocka311 what do you do on your system?
[08:05] <NeoLithium> toulouse: I think it was a list of boot order, like CD -> Hard Drive -> Floppy Drive, or whatnot.
[08:05] <wyatt_earp> does anyone know how i can install the 32bit version of libpam-* on a 64bit ubuntu system?
[08:05] <Adramelech> klypso: I thinjk you use default shell, so PATH=$PATH,program_path     should do the trick
[08:05] <toulouse> ok, ima dive in there
[08:05] <toulouse> cya
[08:05] <klypso> how do I make a terminal program accesible out of the installation folder?
[08:05] <Shocka311> adramelech: i am very new to ubuntu. I only ask because I read on the ubuntu website that adding ram alone won't help, you need to increase your cache size.
[08:05] <Adramelech> Siv0x: is nvidia no invidia =)
[08:05] <Siv0x> Adremelech: ahhh. lol
[08:06] <Siv0x> Adramelech: brb.
[08:06] <klypso> anyone?
[08:06] <Adramelech> klypso: give me 2 secs
[08:06] <klypso> Ok
[08:06] <Shocka311> xbehave: only 320 m of r
[08:06] <gephalt> How do i configure the network interface to use an Internet connection via a cross-over cable connection to a Windows Box? dhcp?
[08:07] <Adramelech> klypso
[08:07] <Adramelech> open a terminal
[08:07] <klypso> Adramelech: got one open
[08:07] <Adramelech> klypso: write:  PATH=$PATH,myprogrampath
[08:07] <Xbehave> is your system running veryslow
[08:07] <Shocka311> I just ordered more, my pc will only handle 768
[08:08] <wyatt_earp> anyone on how i can install 32bit pam on an amd64?
[08:08] <Shocka311> xbehave:  I just ordered more, my pc will only handle 768
[08:08] <Adramelech> klypso: it only works on the terminal you type it, to make it a default you need to add that line yo .bashrc on your home directory
[08:09] <NeoLithium> Shocka311: You can also use other window managers, something like fluxbox.  Other than that, you'd have to kill any services you don't use, but you'd need to have an idea of what they are doing, so you don't kill something bad, that would stop linux.
[08:09] <Siv0x> Adramelech: okay back. now to what we was doing.
[08:09] <klypso> Adramelech: root@daedalus:/installed/framework-2.7# PATH=$PATH,/installed/framework-2.7
[08:09] <Xbehave> swap space is like extra ram that ubuntu uses when your real ram gets full, i think the system should run fine with 768 unless your putting it under heavy loads, a good way to see is to have a monitoring app in your taskbar
[08:09] <klypso> Adramelech: still can't get to the program
[08:10] <Adramelech> klypso framework? inst thata windows thing?
[08:10] <wastrel> gephalt:  did you get your crossover connection set up?
[08:10] <Adramelech> Siv0x: you got it installed and restarted the pc?
[08:10] <Xbehave> xfce (used in xubuntu) is the lowest resource window manager in the ubuntu family and so should give you the best performance (as i understand it)
[08:10] <Siv0x> Adramelech: yes.
[08:10] <Shocka311> xbehave: I have a monitering app right now. do I need to increase my cache size when I add more ram?
[08:11] <Adramelech> Siv0x: now tipe.... hummmm one sec =)
[08:11] <Siv0x> Adramelech: k np
[08:11] <klypso> Adramelech: just a sec
[08:12] <timfrost> Adramelech: klypso needs 'PATH=$PATH:/path/to/program;export PATH' where /path/to/program is the directory where the program is installed (eg /usr/local/bin or ~/bin).  Note the COLON separator
[08:12] <Shocka311> xbehave: right now I have two sticks of 128 and one stick of 64 but it says I only have 250 MiB
[08:12] <Adramelech> oops
[08:12] <Adramelech> timfrost: oops yes =)
[08:12] <klypso> timfrost and Adramelech: Thanks
[08:12] <Shocka311> xbehave: on my system moniter.
[08:12] <Xbehave> is the ram ddr? im running 1gb of ddr and actual ram usage rarley gets very high, the swap (which after reading a few different guides i set to 1gb) turns out to never get used, but if u have a slower proccesor/onboard graphics you may need more
[08:13] <Xbehave> what does your bios say?
[08:13] <klypso> got it working
[08:14] <Adramelech> klypso: sorry bout the : thing
[08:14] <Shocka311> xbehave: what comand do I use to view my bios?
[08:14] <Xbehave> ive found that order is imprtant with ram of different amounts e.g 64,128,128 may only run 256 but 128,128,64 will pick up 320
[08:14] <Adramelech> Siv0x: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[08:14] <Xbehave> no command the only true gauge is when u boot your pc the little counter that counts your ram
[08:15] <NeoLithium> Shocka311: You have to hit escape when your computer starts up
[08:15] <Xbehave> or f1 or del
[08:15] <Siv0x> Adramelech: Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf". Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup' New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[08:15] <NeoLithium> Or the old classic [Esc]  to enter BIOS <-I miss that old comp of mine ;)
[08:15] <Asc> Anybody have a link to a page that explains how to use all the arcane console syntax?  e.g. &&, {}, %, etc.
[08:16] <Adramelech> Siv0x: If it doesnt work, you can use that backup
[08:16] <Shocka311> I know I have 128 128 64 right now and when I use the free -m command and on my system moniter it is only picking up 250
[08:16] <Siv0x> Adramelech: that backup?
[08:16] <Adramelech> Siv0x: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[08:16] <Xbehave> shocka311 do you have onboard graphics?
[08:16] <lasindi> Hi everyone, I'm looking at buying a new monitor, and I've been considering a widescreen monitor. Does Ubuntu work well with widescreens (are there any problems with aspect ratios)? Any recommendations, even not specifically about Ubuntu compliance?
[08:17] <Siv0x> Adramelech: how do i do this?
[08:17] <Shocka311> xbehave: what are onboard graphics?
[08:17] <Adramelech> Siv0x: join #siv0x =)
[08:17] <Xbehave> a graphics card build into your motherboard
[08:17] <miyako> anyone know of a utility to do a diff on two binary files?
[08:17] <Shocka311> xbehave I don't believe so. I know I have a vid card.
[08:18] <Xbehave> when you boot up your computer what do you get before grub?
[08:18] <Adramelech> miyako: diff dont work with binaries?
[08:19] <miyako> Adramelech - nope, just outputs "these binary files are different"
[08:19] <gaten> !pcmcia
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <Xbehave> !xorg
[08:19] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:19] <Shocka311> xbehave: I get a message that says 32.0 megabytes and then it gives me a Dell screen and then grub
[08:20] <Adramelech> miyako: you need the bytes where these files differ?
[08:20] <zsh> !dvdauthor
[08:20] <ubotu> dvdauthor: create DVD-Video file system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.11-4 (edgy), package size 137 kB, installed size 356 kB
[08:20] <miyako> Adramelech - yeah, I would like to be able to view what bytes differ between the two files
[08:21] <Shocka311> xbehave: when do I see the ram counter on boot, is it after grub?
[08:21] <zsh> !devede > me
[08:21] <Flannel> Shocka311: some modern computers hide that stuff.  Your computer might hide the POST Screen, and you might need to push something to show it (f1 or del, etc)
[08:22] <gephalt> wastrel: yeah, not connected yet-..have to go now.
[08:22] <wastrel> okey dokey
[08:22] <toulouse> hey guys, thanks for the bios tip on booting from cd, it went well, i think gentoo linux sucks tho, it's like a stripped down version of ubuntu, i just tried it on live cd
[08:22] <wastrel> gentoo != stripped down ubuntu
[08:22] <Xbehave> quick boot and boot logo, or options very similar to those
[08:22] <Shocka311> flannel: it gives me a few sec. to hit del and enter setup, will it tell me my ram there?
[08:22] <toulouse> Shocka311: yes it will
[08:22] <toulouse> for me it does
[08:23] <toulouse> and tells you the frequency that your ram is operating at
[08:23] <Shocka311> Right now I have 431.4 MiB set to swap, is that more than I need or should I leave it at that?
[08:23] <mwalker_mewcons1> i need help installing a tar.gz file. When I download the file from the net using Firefox, where should I save the tar.gz file?
[08:23] <zsh> hi! i keep getting an error that the dvd stucture cannot be created when using devede to convert avi files to dvd. anyone know what the problem is???
[08:24] <miyako> Shocka311 - a good rule of thumb is to set the swap to twice the amount of ram you have
[08:24] <Xbehave> it depends on the model tbh, it does on some(probably most) but not all(especially older) but if it doesnt u have to change settings to get it to sho, if it does then your ok.
[08:24] <wastrel> unless you have a lot of ram,
[08:24] <wastrel> unless you want to use hibernate/suspend
[08:24] <toulouse> i have a gig, do i need to customize the swap?
[08:24] <wastrel> i would suggest for a gig of ram you do not in fact need 2 gigs of swap
[08:24] <toulouse> *or ram
[08:24] <toulouse> lol ok
[08:24] <toulouse> wanted to make sure
[08:24] <qball2> Sup guys, would somone want to help me in getting my ati x1950 pro to work with ubuntu 6.10? I'm using the ati linux wiki and the 8.32.5 drivers and when i use them i cant get past the boot screen, it hangs at the very end of the ubuntu loading screen. Then i have to use my backup xorg to get it working again
[08:25] <Flannel> Shocka311: I'd set a limit of about 1gb swap, unless you're doing real heavy graphics stuff, but in that case you'd probably know that already
[08:25] <Shocka311> thats a little less than half of the ram my pc is recognizing.
[08:25] <miyako> yeah, I have 2 gigs of ram and only 1 gig swap
[08:25] <wastrel> if you have disk space to spare, feel free.
[08:25] <Xbehave> a gig of ddr rarely uses any ram unless you use alot of resourse, ive set 1gig swap and never used it
[08:25] <wastrel> if you want to suspend/hibernate it's a different story or so i'm given to understand.
[08:25] <miyako> I'm a ram hog
[08:25] <mwalker_mewcons1> i have thunderbird-1.5.0.9.tar.gz on my desktop how where do I extract the package and how do I install it?
[08:25] <qball2> any help would be much appreciated
[08:25] <Shocka311> flannel: how do I switch the swap ?
[08:25] <miyako> I think if I had 16GB of ram, I'd still need a bit of swap space lol
[08:26] <Flannel> Shocka311: 'switch'?  you'll need to do some repartitioning
[08:26] <wastrel> qball2:  have you looked at the ubuntu ati howto?
[08:26] <gaten> mwalker_mewcons1:  you can isntall TB from repos easier, but if you want to install from source i can tell u how
[08:26] <qball2> yes, its the same directions at the ati linux wiki
[08:26] <miyako> Flannel - not neccessarily, you can use a swap file
[08:26] <toulouse> miyako: you just need like damn small linux if you like playing with using ram. lol you can use damn small purely in the ram
[08:26] <miyako> just use mkswap
[08:26] <qball2> i use the directions for ubuntu 6.10 word for word, i've tried it several times
[08:26] <Shocka311> flannel: well, I don't know enough to do that so I will just leave the swap to what it is set at now.
[08:26] <mwalker_mewcons1> I would like to learn how from the source, because there are some other source files I would like to install.
[08:26] <qball2> it just hangs at booting at the very end
[08:27] <Flannel> !compile | mwalker_mewcons1
[08:27] <ubotu> mwalker_mewcons1: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:27] <toulouse> qball2: does it boot on the live cd?
[08:27] <kidbuntu> !xine
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <kidbuntu> !video
[08:27] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[08:27] <wastrel> the one on help.ubunut.com is the same as the one on the ati linux wiki?
[08:27] <mwalker_mewcons1> As a windows user is a tar.gz package like windows .zip package?
[08:27] <qball2> the drivers arnt on the live cd are they?
[08:27] <toulouse> ya i thnk so
[08:27] <gaten> mwalker_mewcons1:  more of less, yes
[08:27] <Xbehave> are there anyguides to understanding xorg for 6.10 because i get an error when i run programs in console but i think everything runs fine and ive done the reconfigure
[08:27] <kidbuntu> mwalker_mewcons1: yes
[08:27] <toulouse> qball2: no i meant
[08:27] <toulouse> someone else q'
[08:28] <toulouse> i meant to answer mwalker's question
[08:28] <qball2> all i do is i use the recovery mode and change the xorg back to my backup xorg.conf from before i installed the drivers and it boots up again
[08:28] <Shocka311> toulouse: what does the frequency at which my ram is operating at mean?
[08:28] <qball2> just its really laggy for files because the drivers arnt the ati ones
[08:28] <gaten> Xbehave:  what error
[08:28] <christian1222> how do i specify the directory that GLSlideshow uses in xscreensaver?
[08:28] <Flannel> mwalker_mewcons1: tar groups files into one file, then gz(ip) will compress it (but gzip only compresses single files into an archive), so you use them both in conjunction
[08:29] <zsh> is there a nice simple gui app for making dvd menus and conveting video files to dvd?
[08:29] <gaten> does anyone use linux on a laptop w/ a wireless pcmcia card? i want to buy one and was wondering what works easy
[08:29] <toulouse> if it's higher, it should be faster, the difference in ram is not somehting i know much about, but i believe* that the higher the frequency, the faster the ram
[08:29] <miyako> zsh - I've seen one, can't remember off the top of my head what it's called htough
[08:29] <miyako> *though
[08:29] <Xbehave> its a long 1  4 lines X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 170 | Major opcode:  148 |   Minor opcode:  3 |   Resource id:  0x0
[08:30] <NeoLithium> zsh: devede
[08:30] <Shocka311> toulouse: I tried to install some new ram and on some of the sticks it asked if I wanted to switch to 100Mhz and I didn't know what that meant so I just took the ram out and put the old ram back in
[08:30] <qball2> anyone know anything?
[08:30] <qball2> to my problem?
[08:30] <mwalker_mewcons1> does it matter where I extract the tar.gz file?
[08:30] <toulouse> Shocka311: errk im pretty much a noob, i dont know how to help ya there
[08:30] <christian1222> does anyone know where i can find the directory that GLSlideshow finds its files to display?
[08:30] <toulouse> but i like your name
[08:31] <toulouse> shocka!
[08:31] <Shocka311> toulouse: thanks
[08:31] <zsh> NeoLithium: i tied devede but i keep getting an error and google isnt vey helpful
[08:31] <toulouse> Shocka311: if the shocker dont rocker, then sock er'
[08:31] <gaten> mwalker_mewcons1:  no, you'll be deleting the files after you compile and install
[08:31] <imbecile> what do you guys think of panda desktop secure?
[08:31] <Shocka311> toulouse: lol
[08:31] <qball2> would somone want to help me in getting my ati x1950 pro to work with ubuntu 6.10? I'm using the ati linux wiki and the 8.32.5 drivers and when i use them i cant get past the boot screen, it hangs at the very end of the ubuntu loading screen. Then i have to use my backup xorg to get it working again
[08:31] <mwalker_mewcons1> okay so I can extract on my desktop
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> poningru: Good to have you back, if not you and your server.
[08:32] <gaten> mwalker_mewcons1:  yes
[08:32] <Shocka311> Does anyone know jow to tell what frequency I am operating at now?
[08:32] <NeoLithium> zsh: Which error were you getting? Maybe someone here can help?
[08:32] <toulouse> ok guys***** quiz time! what new linux distro should i try??? -you can't say gentoo, i just tried it, i dont like it
[08:32] <Flannel> toulouse: Ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:32] <toulouse> it's just like ubuntu
[08:32] <toulouse> o
[08:32] <toulouse> ok
[08:32] <gaten> toulouse:  gentoo is a source distribution, unlike ubuntu
[08:33] <qball2> lol yes i have, same one as the one for ati wiki
[08:33] <zsh> NeoLithium: that it cant create the dvd structure. its converting the avi files to mpeg ok but fails immediately afte that
[08:35] <toulouse> gaten: i used the live cd, and it felt much like ubuntu
[08:35] <mwalker_mewcons1> how do I run a file using the Terminal?
[08:35] <toulouse> i guess it's debian based
[08:35] <poningru> tony: having trouble with feisty right now :(
[08:35] <Adramelech> mwalker: typing its name in console
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> poningru: ah
[08:36] <toulouse> feisty is out ? beta?
[08:36] <mwalker_mewcons1> I get a command not found error
[08:36] <poningru> toulouse: not even beta
[08:36] <Adramelech> mwalker: are you in the programs folder?
[08:36] <imbecile> anyone recommend a good anti virus/firewall?
[08:36] <mwalker_mewcons1> yes
[08:37] <mwalker_mewcons1> I see the name of the program in the folder
[08:37] <gaten> imbecile:  firestarter is probably what you want
[08:37] <Adramelech> walker: name of the program?
[08:37] <mwalker_mewcons1> Thunderbird
[08:37] <Siv0x> Hello, can someone help me with getting sound - I have a sound blaster audigy 2 zs sound card.
[08:37] <imbecile> gaten, thanks
[08:37] <Adramelech> walker: ./thunderbird i guess
[08:37] <gaten> mwalker_mewcons1:  did you compile it yet?
[08:37] <mwalker_mewcons1> when I type thunderbird it says bash: thunderbird: command not found
[08:37] <Adramelech> gaten: isnt thunderbird on repos?
[08:37] <userundefine> it's mozilla-thunderbird
[08:38] <gaten> imbecile:  you;re welcome
[08:38] <gaten> Adramelech:  yes, but he wants to learn how to compile stuff
[08:38] <mwalker_mewcons1> ./thunderbird worked
[08:38] <Adramelech> walker: =)
[08:39] <christian1222> does anyone know how i can find which directory GLSlideshow uses?
[08:39] <Adramelech> walker: the dot means the current directory, keep that in mind for future problems
[08:39] <mwalker_mewcons1> okay
[08:39] <mwalker_mewcons1> thanks
[08:39] <Adramelech> np
[08:39] <mwalker_mewcons1> I'm new to this Linux OS
[08:40] <barata> mwalker_mewcons1> I'm new to this Linux OS ---> welcome!! Halelujah ... Praise the TUX
[08:40] <qball2> yo can somone plz help, lol
[08:40] <qball2> would somone want to help me in getting my ati x1950 pro to work with ubuntu 6.10? I'm using the ati linux wiki and the 8.32.5 drivers and when i use them i cant get past the boot screen, it hangs at the very end of the ubuntu loading screen. Then i have to use my backup xorg to get it working again
[08:40] <toulouse> welcome to it, you got quite a support team here in the irc
[08:40] <Rookie_> !ati
[08:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:40] <barata> have you prayed? Did you kind of crying on your conversion?
[08:40] <barata> :) :)
[08:40] <mwalker_mewcons1> I like the idea of Linux being free, but the learning curve is a not a direct transfer from Windows
[08:41] <Adramelech> mwalker: after 2 weeks all becomes clear and logical :P
[08:41] <jisatsu_> it's not so hard once you have everything installed and running
 I like the idea of Linux being free --> first lesson ... never say 'free' incompletely ... always say 'free as in fuck' ... but you still have to pay for the date and dinner!!
[08:41] <Rookie_> try linux by console, makes it alot easier
[08:42] <Flannel> !language | barata
[08:42] <ubotu> barata: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:42] <barata> so .... using linux just like fucking our girl friends ..... are not actually "free" although of course it is "free"
[08:42] <Adramelech> XD
[08:42] <mwalker_mewcons1> lol
[08:42] <barata> remember that lesson!
[08:42] <Adramelech> next time use free as in freedom
[08:43] <mwalker_mewcons1> Learning the terminal is my biggest hurdle
[08:43] <Adramelech> or something to avoidf words
[08:43] <barata> freedom you just get it as you are born!!
[08:43] <mwalker_mewcons1> also learning the file structure of Linux
[08:43] <barata> no work is required by you!
 also learning the file structure of Linux --> then dont use Ubuntu!! Use slackware in your first 6-months
[08:44] <globe> well....what a lively bunch....
[08:44] <barata> Slackware is pure Linux and is good for newbies who really wanna learn
[08:44] <mwalker_mewcons1> Heh it took me a while to get Ubuntu up and running
[08:44] <barata> but if you are careless about system and care more about being productive ... Ubuntu is the best
[08:44] <Rookie_> cant comapiar those 2 distros .... but this is OT
[08:44] <Adramelech> mwalker: dirctory structure is on ubuntu help and man pages
[08:44] <barata> although it's bloated like a pregnant elephant
[08:44] <barata> and so slow
[08:45] <Flannel> mwalker_mewcons1: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html  and http://www.secguru.com/files/cheatsheet/linux-file-structure.jpg
[08:45] <Xbehave> anybody got any ideas for my problem/good xorg guides?
[08:45] <barata> what's your problem Xbehave?
[08:45] <mwalker_mewcons1> thanks Flannel
[08:45] <Rookie_> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:46] <Xbehave> nah ive done that no fix
[08:46] <Siv0x> Can someone help me with ``amixer - i'm trying install my audigy 2 zs sound card.
[08:47] <Xbehave> when i run programs from console, e.g firefox leafpad etc i get  4 lines X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 170 | Major opcode:  148 |   Minor opcode:  3 |   Resource id:  0x0 then the program runs and i dont see any problem but i want to fix my system before i play with stuff
[08:48] <Adramelech> Siv0x: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2598
[08:49] <starz> ive a really wierd problem:
[08:49] <starz> im running breezy and xchat
[08:49] <starz> and i cant seem to dcc chat anything, and i'm dmz/d in the router
[08:49] <starz> and i have no problems in windows
[08:49] <starz> any clue what it could be?
[08:49] <Pie-rate> Xbehave: see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-212025.html
[08:49] <gaten> starz:  any iptables rules defined?
[08:49] <starz> ive a crap airlink router which i think is auto stealth, and i think in windows it has to have ports opened with either traffic or upnp or something crazy
[08:49] <Pie-rate> closest thing i could find to your problem
[08:49] <marither> i have problems in installing wine...i need help!!!!
[08:50] <starz> gaten, dont think so lemme double check
[08:50] <Siv0x> Adramelech: i'll take a look =) thanks
[08:50] <Xbehave> thx pie ill have a look
[08:50] <Pie-rate> marither: this is offtopic to this channel, please see #winehq or /msg me about it
[08:50] <starz> gaten, nope all default policy accept 0 rules
[08:51] <marither> how? can you help me pie-rate?
[08:51] <Pie-rate> quite likely.
[08:51] <starz> its having an effect on torrents, and on dcc chatting, and on dcc sending ;_;
[08:52] <marither> sorry pie-rate coz this is my 1st time to use this
[08:52] <gaten> starz:  that sounds like a router problem
[08:53] <starz> gaten, yes i understand
[08:53] <starz> thing is it works great in winblowz
[08:53] <starz> so its _really_ an os problem somewhere........
[08:53] <gaten> !iconutils
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iconutils - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <starz> gaten, any clue how windows opens ports by default?
[08:54] <starz> is there some packet it sends out prior to regular traffic
[08:54] <rapid> starz: its in the firewall settings
[08:54] <starz> or something every so often so to speak?
[08:54] <starz> rapid, im dmz'd
[08:54] <cens0red> Hi. Can someone help me? I can't get my new dvd drive to work. It's a liteON shm-165P6S . When I try to play DVDs, I get this error "read: Error cracking CSS key"
[08:55] <cens0red> Sometimes I get video output, but it's horribly garbled. And there's no audio.
[08:55] <rapid> starz: figure out what port is being used for DCC and open that port.
[08:55] <rapid> is all i can think of
[08:55] <Pie-rate> cens0red: that's a problem with libdvdread, not your dvd drive
[08:55] <starz> rapid, i tried range porting, i tried application porting, and ive tried ip porting.
[08:55] <gaten> starz:  i agree. you could try dccing as root, see if that helps
[08:55] <Pie-rate> cens0red: hold on while i do some reading :)
[08:55] <vulcanius> wow, I just crapped all over myself
[08:55] <starz> o:
[08:55] <cens0red> Pie-rate cheers.
[08:56] <Siv0x> vulcanius: lol..
[08:56] <starz> hm lemme start antoher instance of xchat.... that would be interesting... and that would make it permissions somewhere at fault right?
[08:56] <moktod> i'm attempting to modprove ndiswrapper, but receiving an error: FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[08:56] <vulcanius> and now it looks like Firefox is taking a dump on my chest... thank you firefox
[08:56] <moktod> any clue how I can track this down
[08:56] <rapid> moktod you need ndiswrapper.
[08:57] <vulcanius> moktod: did you compile ndiswrapper as a module?
[08:57] <moktod> i used apt-get to install it
[08:57] <Siv0x> vulcanius: werent you the one that tried to help me with my sound last time?
[08:57] <Pie-rate> cens0red: have you installed libdvdread3?
[08:57] <Pie-rate> cens0red: if so, run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[08:57] <vulcanius> Siv0x: I started to, but it looked like crimsun was already helping you out
[08:57] <cens0red> Pie-rate yeah  I did all the stuff on the wiki. Still the same problem.
[08:57] <Pie-rate> cens0red: otherwise, run apt-get install libdvdread3, then run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[08:57] <moktod> i have ndiswrapper (i loaded the correct driver for my card)
[08:58] <moktod> ndiswrapper -l shows it
[08:58] <Adramelech> Siv0x: got sound already?
[08:58] <moktod> but...the module wont load
[08:58] <Siv0x> vulcanius: yes, i know. but i'm having trouble with it again.
[08:58] <vulcanius> Siv0x: what is happening?
[08:58] <Pie-rate> cens0red: have you tried a different dvd? what player are you using?
[08:58] <Siv0x> Adramelech: nope - couldnt make anything out to help me on that forum.
[08:58] <Siv0x> vulcanius: no sound. lol
[08:58] <moktod> can anyone share with me the uncommented portion of their /etc/modprobe/ndiswrapper?
[08:58] <starz> ok no that doesnt work.
[08:58] <Pie-rate> cens0red: are you sure you ran /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh?
[08:58] <cens0red> Pie-rate it's the liteON shm-165P6S .
[08:59] <cens0red> Pie-rate I don't have another dvd. :/
[08:59] <starz> gaten, // rapid could it be the version of xchat??
[08:59] <Pie-rate> cens0red: no, what software player are you using?
[08:59] <vulcanius> Siv0x: are you using regular PC speakers or are you going to a receiver through SPDIF, optical, etc?
[08:59] <Adramelech> Siv0x: what you did last time? single command? or a config file?
[08:59] <starz> running 2.4.4 :/ i odnt like 2.6.x
[08:59] <Pie-rate> cens0red: like totem, mplayer, vlc?
[08:59] <Siv0x> vulcanius: all i had to do to get sound last time was something like ``amixer set default and i set my sound blaster audigy 2 zs to default sound card. and it worked. - i just cant remember the command
[08:59] <cens0red> Pie-rate yes I'm sure I ran. I ran it again just then. I have tried  totem, mplayer, vlc, and ogle.
[08:59] <rapid> starz: maybe. try a DCC GET
[09:00] <gaten> starz:  its possible. you could check the xchat forums
[09:00] <Siv0x> Adramelech: all i know is it started with ``amixer, then it asked me which card i wanted set as default.
[09:00] <starz> well im gonna enable backports and install 2.6.x instead and try it
[09:00] <Siv0x> vulcanius: i am using regular pc speakers, 2 of them and a subwoofer.
[09:01] <starz> rapid, i can get dcc gets from most ppl if they are ported correctly or not firewalled already
[09:01] <vulcanius> Siv0x: have you verified the card is recognized? like through doing "aplay -l" and making sure it exists?
[09:01] <starz> but if they have any firewall or are ported shabbily then no go !__________!
[09:01] <starz> perhaps my router needs some time off >.>
[09:01] <rapid> perhaps, not.
[09:01] <starz> lol
[09:01] <Siv0x> vulcanius: actually no, i'm new with linux.. i can try that now that you told me the command.
[09:02] <gaten> anyone know why i cant change the icon of my wow shortcut? ive extracted the icon, even tried renaming it to png
[09:02] <harry> !partition
[09:02] <vulcanius> yes, in a terminal type "aplay -l" and paste it to me in a private message
[09:02] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:02] <oth> I installed apache2, mysql, php, phpmyadmin
[09:02] <oth> php works fine
[09:02] <rapid> you now have a lamp.
[09:02] <oth> when I access the phpmyadmin dir from the browser
[09:02] <harry> !fstab
[09:02] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:02] <Pie-rate> cens0red: not sure what else it could be
[09:03] <oth> I get download a phtml file
[09:03] <cens0red> Pie-rate well I've been searching all the forums. Heaps of people with the same problem, no solutions.
[09:03] <oth> anyone got a clue what might cause this ?
[09:04] <starz> oh yeah gaten // rapid in dapper [i downgraded from edgy to dapper to breezy lol cpu issues // disk access issues]  i could dcc chat but only if i was ssl connected to ircd which was really unusual....
[09:04] <vulcanius> oth, maybe your apache server does not recognize the file extension .phtml as a php file
[09:04] <Siv0x> vulcanius: did you get that pm?
[09:04] <vulcanius> um..... i don't believe so
[09:05] <Siv0x> vulcanius: how about just join #siv0x and help me there? - i'm using gaim so i doubt its working right.
[09:05] <oth> vulcanius:  but there are no phtml fils in there
[09:05] <starz> interesting......... yeah upgrading didnt help either guyz
[09:05] <vulcanius> sure
[09:05] <Siv0x> k.
[09:05] <oth> there are only .php files
[09:05] <starz> i think there was an issue with this in dapper before... perhaps it was a kernel thing
[09:05] <starz> is there a guide so i can build a kernel that is later on in the build?
[09:06] <starz> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Tue Dec 12 15:56:39 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:06] <starz> perhaps i could build kernel say 2.6.16-xx
[09:06] <starz> !compile kernel
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compile kernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <Deon|away> is there a command in *nix to show my current CPU usage?
[09:07] <mcquaid> hello, I've been having random lockups with my nvidia card.  I was using a rep with the latest for beryl.  I decided to downgrade to offical edgy nvidia
[09:07] <CheyenneD> Can anyone tell me some free ISO creating program for Windows(WINE) or native linux?
[09:07] <vulcanius> Deon|away: "top"
[09:07] <mcquaid> i actually downgraded to edgy-security update and now the nvidia driver won't work so I'm using nv
[09:07] <gaten> starz:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835
[09:08] <mcquaid> so I decided to downgrade to edgy version that I originally had (not the security update one) and when I force that version it wants to install:
[09:08] <Deon|away> vulcanius: thank you
[09:08] <starz> gaten, thanx i'll check it out ^_^
[09:08] <gaten> CheyenneD:  you can create an iso in ubuntu by browsing for the file and right clicking on it and selecting 'write to disk'
[09:08] <vulcanius> np
[09:08] <mcquaid> xen-image and xen-restricted-modules
[09:08] <gaten> starz:  np
[09:08] <mcquaid> wtf is xen?
[09:08] <arrenlex> mcquaid: A virtualiser.
[09:08] <arrenlex> !xen
[09:08] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[09:08] <mcquaid> okay.....
[09:09] <mcquaid> ok but i don't want, nor do i think i need xen.  So if i want to install the original edgy nvidia driver why is it flagging this for installation?
[09:10] <gaten> anyone run beryl and wow? im wondering about the performace hit
[09:10] <_Adramelech_> mcquaid: What your video card?
[09:10] <starz> gaten, am i restricted to 6.11 ? or can i apply that further up the chain? i would like to go to at least 14 or 16 if i can
[09:11] <mcquaid> geforce 6200
[09:11] <gaten> starz:  no idea why you would be. im on 15
[09:11] <mcquaid> _Adramelech_, arrenlex I was using this rep for latest nvidia http://albertomilone.com/drivers/edgy/nonlegacy/32bit binary/ so I can use beryl
[09:12] <mcquaid> but I'm having issues and just want the stalk nvidia driver edgy provides
[09:12] <mwalker_mewcons1> how do I install a tar.bz2?
[09:12] <starz> o awesome thats exactly what i'm looking for!!!
[09:12] <_Adramelech_> mcquaid: there was a bug with 9xxx series but dunno if 6200 is afected i think only 3xxx and 4xxx
[09:12] <mwalker_mewcons1> is it the same as tar.gz?
[09:12] <gaten> lol
[09:12] <gaten> mwalker_mewcons1:  same ideam different compression
[09:12] <mcquaid> _Adramelech_, ya it's probably not my issue.  I think it's more acpi related
[09:12] <mcquaid> it was a stab in the dark but I thought I'd try downgrading
[09:12] <gaten> mwalker_mewcons1:  bzip2 (bz2) rather than gzip (.gz)
[09:13] <mcquaid> don't know why the nvidia edgy security won't find any X screens
[09:13] <mcquaid> and I find it more puzzling if I want the original edgy version that it's forcing xen
[09:13] <mcquaid> not sure what to do now
[09:13] <_Adramelech_> mcquaid: same happened to me and it was cause of restricted modules no matching the nvidia drivers
[09:13] <_Adramelech_> mcquaid: so i went back to the milestone ones :)
[09:14] <starz> gaten, what flav ubuntu u got/ breezy/dapper/edgy ?
[09:14] <mcquaid> which milestone ones are you referring to?
[09:14] <_Adramelech_> the repo u said
[09:14] <mcquaid> ah
[09:14] <mcquaid> damn it
[09:14] <mcquaid> heh
[09:14] <gaten> starz:  drapper
[09:15] <gaten> starz:  and edgy on my server
[09:15] <starz> yup thought so ... linux-tree only up to 2.6.12 for breezy up there... *checks backports*
[09:15] <cens0red> Pie-rate hey I just went out and bought another dvd. It works!!
[09:15] <_Adramelech_> XD
[09:15] <_Adramelech_> cens0red: you fixed ti the windows way :P
[09:16] <starz> _Adramelech_, he seems to be so happy he left XD
[09:16] <_Adramelech_> :(
[09:17] <mcquaid> well, forced a downgrade of restricted modules and nvidia-glx and it's not flagging xen to be installed now
[09:17] <mcquaid> so i'll install that and see how it goes
[09:17] <alienseer23> can anyone tell me how to configure the alsa to 5.1 by default? (or even just repeated stereo to the rear chanells)?
[09:17] <mcquaid> even though I think it's an acpi issue
[09:17] <mcquaid> btw, i tried disabling acpi and my system seg faulted on bootup
[09:17] <mcquaid> why would acpi need to be enabled?
[09:17] <_Adramelech_> mwalker: lol
[09:18] <_Adramelech_> mcquaid: lol
[09:18] <vulcanius> _Adramelech_: heh, talking to imaginary people now?
[09:18] <vulcanius> doh
[09:18] <mcquaid> what's funny. that my system seg faults without acpi? i know it's a riot
[09:18] <tim167> how do I rotate an image 90 in OpenOffice ???
[09:18] <_Adramelech_> i know :(
[09:20] <IZprince> this could take a while, I have to build WINE from source, cause all they have is a 386 package
[09:20] <hastesaver> tim167, why are you using OpenOffice to edit images? Isn't it for word processing, spreadsheets, etc.?
[09:20] <IZprince> they say go get a sandwich
[09:20] <IZprince> more like go on vacation
[09:21] <hastesaver> IZprince, 386 should be fine, right? Many Ubuntu packages are -386 by default, IIRC
[09:21] <tim167> hastesaver: i just need to put several scanned documents into one file, some have to be rotated
[09:21] <IZprince> would it run alright on AMD64?
[09:22] <IZprince> I wasn't sure so I decided to just grab the source
[09:22] <hastesaver> IZprince, oh, sorry. Too self-centred of me :-)
[09:22] <hastesaver> IZprince, no, it probably won't work. sorry
[09:23] <tim167> hastesaver: I cant beleive that a function as basic as rotating an image is so well hidden in OpenOffice
[09:23] <daishadar> whenever i apt-get install something, it lists suggested packages but i always forget to install them later... is there a way to list all suggested packages for currently installed packages?
[09:23] <IZprince> tim167: Practical joke?
[09:24] <hastesaver> tim167, yeah, I hate OpenOffice too... try #users.openoffice.org maybe
[09:24] <IZprince> I haven't messed with Open Office much
[09:25] <IZprince> thats based on Star Office though, which was a real dog last time I used it
[09:25] <IZprince> of course that was like 6 years ago on Windows
[09:25] <hastesaver> tim167, but of course, you could, in principle, rotate the image outside Oo.o (in an image editor), and then plug it in
[09:25] <IZprince> and I believe everything ran in a JAVA VM
[09:25] <ootput> gday fellas, i've downloaded a gtk2 theme from gnome-look, but I can't seem to make System-preferences-themes recognise it after copying it to /usr/share/themes
[09:26] <gaten> daishadar:  what? suggested packages for currently installed packages?
[09:26] <ootput> how do i get it recognised without restarting my session?
[09:26] <_Adramelech_> ooput: drag and drop the downloaded file to the theme settings window
[09:26] <hastesaver> daishadar, yes. One way I know is to start Aptitude :-)
[09:27] <ootput> _Adramelech_: oh, simple enough!
[09:28] <ootput> _Adramelech_: cheers mate!
[09:28] <con-man> im trying to copy a directory but it keeps omitting it
[09:28] <con-man>  cp World\ of\ Warcraft/ /home/con-man/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/
[09:28] <daishadar> hastesaver, oh ;)
[09:28] <con-man> ideas
[09:29] <ootput> con-man: cp -rv path_to_source path_to_destination
[09:29] <hastesaver> con-man, cp -R.
[09:29] <ootput> con-man: the man-page mentions recursive copy
[09:29] <hastesaver> con-man, also, if the spaces bother you, use cp "World<TAB>", the quotes should take care of things.
[09:30] <con-man> it worked thanks
[09:30] <con-man> and i dont type spaces
[09:30] <con-man> i tab
[09:30] <con-man> cause yes, that would bother me
[09:31] <saturn_> Please help me to upgrade system from 6.06 to 6.10!
[09:31] <_Adramelech_> saturn: Have you tried any method?
[09:32] <hastesaver> !upgrade | saturn_
[09:32] <ubotu> saturn_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:32] <saturn_> yes, gksu "update-manager -c -d", but there were some errors
[09:32] <_Adramelech_> wich errors?
[09:33] <saturn_> there were not some archives on server
[09:34] <_Adramelech_> saturn: did you reboot?
[09:34] <saturn_> yes
[09:35] <IZprince> oh boy, it's giving me page after page of warnings
[09:35] <IZprince> this is gonna be great
[09:35] <saturn_> now I'm trying the ubotu's url
[09:35] <_Adramelech_> saturn: then i guess u got edgy
[09:36] <con-man> join #wine
[09:36] <_Adramelech_> saturn: System->About Ubuntu
[09:36] <con-man> im having issues with the audio tab of winecfg
[09:36] <con-man> can't create mcop directory
[09:36] <aNi`> hi all can anyone please write a guide to the hal.dll missing (when booting windoze)  issue after edgy install?
[09:36] <saturn_> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[09:36] <saturn_> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[09:37] <daishadar> is the signal strength output of network-manager-gnome reliable? my wifi card is literally 1 foot from the router and i'm getting 61%...
[09:37] <saturn_> what can I do with those errors?
[09:37] <con-man> im having issues with the audio tab of winecfg
[09:37] <con-man> can't create mcop directory
[09:38] <hastesaver> saturn_, remove them from your sources.list.
[09:38] <saturn_> how?
[09:38] <hastesaver> !repositories | saturn_
[09:38] <ubotu> saturn_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:38] <_Adramelech_> saturn: back it up first =)
[09:39] <aNi`> hi all can anyone please write a guide to the hal.dll missing (when booting windoze) issue after edgy install?
[09:39] <con-man> im having issues with the audio tab of winecfg
[09:39] <con-man> can't create mcop directory
[09:39] <_Adramelech_> con_man: permissions?
[09:39] <con-man> _Adramelech_: what do you mean
[09:40] <_Adramelech_> con:man: why it cant, whats the exact error
[09:41] <con-man> _Adramelech_: when I click the audio tab winecfg closes, and I get the message in console:can't create mcop directory
[09:41] <saturn_> _Adramelech_:Please, don't laugh, I'm using Ubuntu just 2 months and English isn't my language!
[09:42] <xipietotec> can I put a svn address in my sources.list? not a deb-svn but a straight svn://svn
[09:42] <_Adramelech_> saturn: me neither
[09:42] <xipietotec> ?
[09:42] <con-man> _Adramelech_: when I click the audio tab winecfg closes, and I get the message in console:can't create mcop directory
[09:42] <saturn_> just say what I need to upgrade with those errors
[09:43] <KenSentMe> Ubuntu reacts when i insert a SD card into the card reader of my laptop, but memory stick isn't recognised. For what package should i file a bug, or how to get it solved?
[09:43] <_Adramelech_> saturn: you entered the command you told me and reboot right?
[09:43] <hastesaver> saturn_, go to your repository list, and remove those freecontrib stuff.
[09:43] <xipietotec> KenSentMe: what kind of memory stick?
[09:43] <KenSentMe> xipietotec: Memory Stick Pro
[09:44] <xipietotec> KenSentMe: the Playstation ones?
[09:44] <saturn_>  _Adramelech_: yes
[09:44] <xipietotec> err PSP
[09:44] <_Adramelech_> con-man: http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-bugs/2006-September/038594.html
[09:44] <KenSentMe> xipietotec: no, just a 'regular' MS Pro Duo from my SE cellphone
[09:44] <lordhelmet> what can i use to open and read .chm files...
[09:45] <_Adramelech_> saturn: didnt anything change? go to system->About Ubuntu and read the current version you have
[09:45] <xipietotec> KenSentMe: I'd try formatting it and uninstalling any pre-packaged firmware on it if you can...that solves 90% of all problems
[09:45] <lordhelmet> ah nm found it
[09:46] <saturn_>  _Adramelech_: 6.06
[09:46] <KenSentMe> xipietotec: but there's totally no reaction in dmesg when i insert it
[09:46] <KenSentMe> xipietotec: and formatting can't be done because all my phonenumbers are on it
[09:46] <lordhelmet> okay i take that back....i can preview with KChmPart in konqueror....but....
[09:47] <_Adramelech_> saturn: so the upgrade abort when it didnt find those files?
[09:47] <lordhelmet> kchmviewer
[09:47] <Xbehave> !ubotu mouse > Xbehave
[09:47] <Jazon> hi.  ubuntu has stopped recognizing my swap partition signature.  how can I recify this?
[09:48] <saturn_>  _Adramelech_: some people tells me to edit some list, what it means and could it help the problem?
[09:48] <_Adramelech_> saturn: yes
[09:48] <xipietotec> KenSentMe: does the Memory Stick Duo use the same slot as an SD card slot?
[09:48] <KenSentMe> xipietotec: yes it does
[09:48] <saturn_>  _Adramelech_: repositary list
[09:49] <_Adramelech_> saturn: join #saturn channel
[09:49] <KenSentMe> xipietotec: lspci even has this line 04:01.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 08)
[09:49] <xipietotec> KenSentMe: I'd try formatting the Memory stick in Windows, or removing the software through whatever onboard installed utility might be on it
[09:50] <xipietotec> I had a similar problem with a USB drive awhile back...the only way to remove the installed software/semi-firmware was to use the program in windows, to uninstall it.
[09:51] <harry> !gparted
[09:51] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[09:51] <xipietotec> harry: gparted wouldn't even remove it
[09:52] <xipietotec> the software literally locked the system volume beyond all ability to add permissions in linux
[09:52] <harry> xipietotec: what do you mean? did i said something
[09:53] <Casanova> [OT]  http://prashblog.com/2006/12/29/kurukshetra-07-online-programming-contest/
[09:53] <Jazon> my swap problem happened moving to edgy
[09:53] <xipietotec> harry: thought you were referencing gparted to me being unable to remove some firmware from a USB drive in linux, awhile back. sorry =)
[09:55] <harry> xipietotec: ah ok, anyway can gparted merge my other partition to my current partition in ubuntu? i want to remove my windows permanently and add the space to my ubuntu w/o reformatting everything
[09:56] <xipietotec> harry: beyond my expertise. =\
[09:56] <Jazon> harry: back up all your data!!!!  and then use the gParted LIVECD
[09:57] <Jazon> I have done it.  but it is not without risk.  the livecd is by far the best way.
[09:57] <Jazon> any comments on my suggestion?
[09:57] <harry> Jazon: do i really have to insert the livecd instead of installing the gparted and remove the windows and then add that paritition to my ubuntu?
[09:58] <Jazon> harry: use the livecd.
[09:58] <Jazon> boot off the cd
[09:58] <Jazon> and back up data
[09:58] <harry> Jazon: why?
[09:58] <anto9us> harry, you can do it that way, you can add it as an extra mount point called /data or something
[09:58] <con-man> WOOT
[09:59] <con-man> I GOT WoW WORKING IN LINUX
[09:59] <anto9us> harry, you can't work on mounted partitions though, which is why Jazon suggests the livecd
[09:59] <con-man> <----THE MAN
[09:59] <aNi`> they need to fix the ubuntu forum
[09:59] <DarthLappy> con-man: Apparently it's not a difficult feat...
[09:59] <kraut> moin
[09:59] <_Adramelech_> con-man: glad it works =)
[09:59] <harry> anto9us: but trying to make my partition as a whole again I really have to reformat everything?
[09:59] <con-man> DarthLappy: its not hard for most ppl
[09:59] <Plutoprime> heh... i hope the day comes when you don't have to feel like you have climbed mount everest just because you installed a computer game :)
[09:59] <con-man> DarthLappy: i had other problems
[09:59] <con-man> I agree
[10:00] <fnord_> lol everest is easy copmared to that
[10:00] <con-man> but now that ive climbed the mountain
[10:00] <con-man> im happy
[10:00] <con-man> and im off to bed
[10:00] <con-man> i have to be up in 3.5 hours for week
[10:00] <Plutoprime> oh come on
[10:00] <con-man> work
[10:00] <harry> Jazon: ok, so I dont have to reformat everything but  i can delete the other partition and add it to my current ubuntu w/o reformatting
[10:00] <Plutoprime> a few raids wouldnt hurt
[10:00] <anto9us> harry, you can add an extra mount point without any reformatting
[10:00] <con-man> hahaha
[10:00] <Plutoprime> :)
[10:00] <con-man> 3.5 hours to sleep before work
[10:01] <harry> anto9us: but doing that, you also recommend using the live cd instead?
[10:01] <harry> Jazon: ok, so I dont have to reformat everything but  i can delete the other partition and add it to my current ubuntu w/o reformatting?
[10:01] <anto9us> harry, no need
[10:01] <Pie-rate> Hey cool, I found something gthumb image viewer is actually good for: crashing! A lot!
[10:01] <harry> anto9us: i'll just install it then
[10:02] <Jazon> harry: dude!  use the livecd!!!!!
[10:02] <fnord_> on kubuntu when you let your mouse sit over a image file for a sec a larger preview pops up along with file info,is there a program to do that for gnome?
[10:02] <Jazon> harry: it is painless.  it is only like 32 meg or something
[10:02] <Plutoprime> fnord_: not yet to my knowledge
[10:03] <Plutoprime> fnord_: you could file a an enhancement bug in GNOME bugzilla
[10:03] <Plutoprime> but do a search.. there is one probably already
[10:03] <Plutoprime> it'll be implemented by GNOME 5.0
[10:03] <Jazon> anto9us: why do think not necessary?  livecd is the safest way to use gparted when modding your system partition imho.
[10:03] <fnord_> cool
[10:04] <Plutoprime> i just hope that i'm not a senior citizen by the time 5.0 comes out :p
[10:04] <fnord_> can you use gparted to resize a active partition?
[10:04] <anto9us> Jazon, personally, I think there's less danger for him this way, he's not working on his existing Ubuntu partitions, just adding new ones
[10:04] <Plutoprime> no
[10:04] <Plutoprime> not like partition magic at least
[10:04] <anto9us> fnord_, yes, you can resize a partition provided it's not mounted
[10:05] <firepol> hi there, i want to connect a printer to ,y ubuntu box and share it with another ubuntu box. is it correct to install it first (test it) locally and then share it? how to share it? ;)
[10:05] <fnord_> i only have 1 partition(not counting swap)and i want to resize and add a new one with the newly freed space
[10:05] <Jazon> fnord_: again, I say gparted livecd.  its valuable tool, and small.
[10:05] <fnord_> no live cd :(
[10:05] <Jazon> be careful though.
[10:05] <violot> Make is ignoring the first few chars of my variables 0_o
[10:05] <fnord_> lol my aim away message right now is "fdisk is your friend"
[10:06] <vulcanius> anyone know of a 3D8 chess game for gnome?
[10:06] <violot> Screw it, it's 4:00 AM
[10:06] <anto9us> Jazon, good advice :)
[10:07] <Plutoprime> vulcanius: did you just read digg?
[10:07] <fnord_> theres a 3d chess game but its the kind with 3 boards
[10:07] <vulcanius> Plutoprime: exactly
[10:07] <harry> Jazon   anto9us: so whats best you recommend guys?
[10:07] <kadk> what permission can you give to a user if you want him to just download and not modify and delete?
[10:07] <vulcanius> Plutoprime: what else would I be doing at 4 in the morning? lol
[10:07] <Plutoprime> hehe
[10:07] <Plutoprime> HAHAHA
[10:07] <Plutoprime> omg.. so true so true
[10:07] <Plutoprime> respect man.. respect
[10:08] <vulcanius> lol
[10:08] <Plutoprime> I just wish everything in the real world would come with a digg/burry button
[10:08] <Plutoprime> like people .. etc
[10:08] <Jazon> harry: best advice?  do a complete backup onto another hdd.  then once you have verified *all* is backed up perfectly, use the gparted livecd to play with your partitions.  if things screw up, you then have your backup :-)
[10:08] <vulcanius> my Lame buried list would be huge
[10:08] <Plutoprime> heh
[10:08] <fnord_> wrong place but would a windows 2000 cd autoboot and let me resize my partition during a install?i havent used windows in a long time
[10:09] <harry> Jazon: the problem is I don't have a tool for backing up my huge file.
[10:09] <Jazon> harry cp is your friend
[10:09] <Jazon> harry: what do you mean a tool
[10:09] <harry> Jazon: cp? cellphone?
[10:09] <imbecile> hey how do i install codecs to movie player?
[10:09] <Plutoprime> fnord_: no
[10:10] <Plutoprime> fnord_: use an ubuntu livecd instead
[10:10] <vulcanius> mmmmmmmm....my fingers smell like cat treats
[10:10] <harry> Jazon: a writer.. i dont have a thing, and my USB flash drive is only 128 mb
[10:10] <harry> imbecile! codecs!
[10:10] <harry> codecd!
[10:10] <harry> codecs!
[10:10] <Jazon> harry: use gmail or something then
[10:10] <imbecile> in terminal?
[10:11] <harry> imbecile: what media player are you using?
[10:11] <Plutoprime> wow.. i thought harry was calling someone imbecile
[10:11] <oturr> hi every one i have a problem. I installed google picassa with this command sudo dpkg --force-architecture -i picasa_2.2.2820-5_i386.deb. It was installed but doesnt work. Do u have any idea. 10x in advance
[10:11] <Plutoprime> but then again.. he was calling someone imbecile...
[10:11] <Jazon> harry: but backup your data at least.  use hjsplit to break up large data files into 10mb chunks and email them to yourself on your gmail ccount
[10:11] <Jazon> *account
[10:11] <Plutoprime> the guy just happened to be imbecile...
[10:11] <harry> Plutoprime: no... hahahahaha. its the name of the user
[10:11] <imbecile> im trying to open them in vlc but i dont see the option
[10:12] <Plutoprime> i think i really need to go sleep.. don't listen to me
[10:12] <harry> Jazon: thats good, whats hjsplit... i'm really a newbie
[10:12] <imbecile> yes go to sleep plutoprime
[10:12] <hdibani> hi everybody, i am n edgy and just followed the steps here to install beryl http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA. the problem is now i have beryl working without window borders
[10:13] <harry> imbecile: what them? please be specific
[10:13] <hdibani> does anybody know what i might have done wrong?
[10:13] <Jazon> harry: google hjsplit. oh, and the windoze version is easiest - works perfectly inwine
[10:13] <Pie-rate> Any way to get Folding@Home in a repository?
[10:13] <imbecile> harry, i am trying to open movie file on ntfs partition
[10:13] <fnord_> vulcanius, what kind/flavor?i like the beef ones
[10:14] <imbecile> !codecs
[10:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:14] <harry> imbecile: you mean from the ntfs partition? what kind of movie file, avi, mkv, .....etc?
[10:14] <fnord_> hdibani, try #beryl or #xgl
[10:14] <imbecile> harry, avi
[10:14] <harry> imbecile: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:15] <imbecile> dapper drake
[10:15] <fnord_> how do i uninstall cups?
[10:15] <fnord_> completly?
[10:15] <harry> imbecile: i'm not really familiar with it, when i was still using dapper, i'm using mplayer to play my avi files.
[10:15] <hdibani> fnord: i have tried $beryl but i have the same problem
[10:16] <imbecile> ill try mplayer
[10:16] <harry> imbecile: try doing "sudo apt-get install mplayer" that should be playing avi
[10:16] <harry> imbecile: i'm currently using edgy
[10:16] <SS2> can I copy mtab entrys into fstab?
[10:17] <_Adramelech_> hdibani: if window borders and decorations are not showing up, try changing DefaultDepth to 24 in the Screen section
[10:17] <gaten> does anyone use portsentry?
[10:17] <fnord_> how do i uninstall CUPS?i dont have a printer so i shouldedt need it right?
[10:18] <gaten> fnord_:  you could simply disable the service.
[10:18] <SS2> right, but you don't need to uninstall it
[10:18] <fnord_> how?
[10:19] <gaten> someone correct me if im wrong but sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/cupsys should do the trick
[10:19] <sovieticool> hi all
[10:20] <sovieticool> i don't know how to upgrade to the last ubuntu version
[10:20] <harry> !hjsplit
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hjsplit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <sovieticool> i have 5.1
[10:21] <SS2> sovieticool: there is no ubuntu version 5.1
[10:21] <sovieticool> :)
[10:21] <sovieticool> 5.10
[10:21] <sovieticool> sorruy
[10:21] <sovieticool> sorry\
[10:21] <SS2> sounds better now
[10:22] <sovieticool> ok can you help me ?
[10:22] <theflyingfool> i have my wireless card working, well sort of, but i was wondering if it might work better using ndiswrapper
[10:22] <SS2> sovieticool: I have never upgraded a system to a new release, always did a re install
[10:22] <stjepan> I need some help... got banned at ##c and can't contact the channel operator there... can anyone help me?
[10:23] <SS2> because like this, it could never go wrong ;)
[10:23] <sovieticool> maybe can you help to upgrade my firefox
[10:23] <sovieticool> i want to install the lastest but i don't have the install cd
[10:23] <sovieticool> and will take to much to ship it
[10:24] <sovieticool> i am from ROMANIA
[10:24] <SS2> no download posibillities?
[10:24] <imbecile> harry, it says "you do not have a decoder to handle this file,you might need to install the necessary plugin"
[10:24] <imbecile> but is a regular avi
[10:24] <imbecile> i know vlc handles this
[10:24] <lazz> hi guys I do have important question is some one can answer me
[10:25] <SS2> sovieticool: you can still order dapper ship-its, they are still availible
[10:25] <theflyingfool> i am having some slight issues with downloading email with on my edgy box, would using ndiswrapper with the driver from the cd that came with it fix that?
[10:25] <lemome> -([ # Appears as] )-([MAX-SicrpTv2.0G ] )-
[10:25] <lemome> -([hi ] )-
[10:25] <lazz> I have installed windows on my pc and the boot loader for ubuntu is gone..how to I reinstall it from the live CD?
[10:25] <lemome> -([welcom ] )-
[10:25] <gaten> !grub
[10:25] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:26] <imbecile> anyone, i am trying to play avi in mplayer and it says "you do not have a decoder to handle this file,you might need to install the necessary plugin" any sugestions?
[10:26] <SS2> imbecile: yep, missing decoder
[10:26] <gaten> sovieticool:  you can just download from their website and install it.
[10:26] <imbecile> ss2 how do install codecs?
[10:26] <lazz> thank you guys
[10:27] <SS2> imbecile: try it with the w32codecs paket
[10:27] <SS2> imbecile: you will find it at the mplayer homepage, it is also availible in a deb package
[10:27] <imbecile> SS2, how do i find that?
[10:27] <fnord_> !codecs
[10:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:27] <harry> imbecile: mplayer also handles it
[10:27] <SS2> just answered
[10:27] <imbecile> SS2, ahh thanks
[10:27] <fnord_> !codecs | imbecile,
[10:27] <ubotu> imbecile,: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:28] <SS2> that page is also fine :)
[10:28] <lemome> -([ # Appears as] )-([MAX-SicrpTv2.0G ] )-
[10:28] <fnord_> imbecile, that link should have every codec youll need,but remember some of them are ieagle to use in the us
[10:29] <Agent_K> hi
[10:29] <jakub_> siema all
[10:29] <jakub_> sa tu polacy?
[10:29] <jakub_> ...
[10:30] <Agent_K> ive finally decided to ditch windows for ever
[10:30] <jakub_> chyba nie
[10:30] <jakub_> trudno
[10:30] <Agent_K> ok no english in here then
[10:31] <SS2> lol
[10:31] <imbecile> ok im @ http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/ i am running x86 dapper rake which codec pack should i use?
[10:31] <Wyglif> hi! I have a problem connecting to my share from linux to linux box. i get error timeout connecting to 192.168.1.1:445
[10:31] <imbecile> for avi
[10:32] <SS2> !Codecs | imbecile
[10:32] <ubotu> imbecile: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:32] <imbecile> i wish i could just get vlc player going
[10:32] <SS2> imbecile: look at this page
[10:32] <fnord_> imbecile, if your looking for a quick fix try automarix or easyubuntu,be warned theyve been know to cause problems
[10:32] <fnord_> !easyubuntu
[10:32] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[10:32] <Nameeater> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[10:32] <fnord_> !automatix
[10:32] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:33] <SS2> easyubuntu and the rest of them are evil...
[10:33] <SS2> not to users, but to your system
[10:33] <_Adramelech_> ?
[10:34] <theflyingfool> does anyone know where i should start for wireless troubleshooting
[10:34] <SS2> theflyingfool: at you chipset, what type is it?
[10:34] <lordhelmet> theflyingfool: what's wrong?
[10:35] <theflyingfool> atheros chipset
[10:35] <SS2> theflyingfool: fine :)
[10:35] <theflyingfool> and i can only get on irc when it feels like it
[10:35] <SS2> just install the restricted modules
[10:35] <theflyingfool> and i can download my email with evolution on occasion
[10:35] <fnord_> theflyingfool, hammers work good for wifi diagnostics
[10:35] <theflyingfool> i have the resticeted mudoals
[10:36] <lordhelmet> what he said. i'm pretty sure the atheros stuff is in the restricted modules package
[10:36] <SS2> theflyingfool: have you tried the network-manager?
[10:36] <lordhelmet> or knetworkmanager if you use kde
[10:36] <theflyingfool> installing network-manager right now
[10:38] <SS2> theflyingfool: will then need do comment all entries of /etc/network/interfaces instead of auto lo, iface lo inet loopback
[10:38] <fnord_> theflyingfool, go to system=>admin=>networking
[10:39] <theflyingfool> everything except irc and evolution work flawlessly
[10:39] <Pie-rate> I intend to use my GPU as a spaceheater, what should I use to put load on it?
[10:39] <SS2> play a heavy 3d game ;)
[10:39] <Pie-rate> meh, i want folding@home to be able to run at the same time
[10:40] <fnord_> take some ram out and try running frostwire,dont forget to put your max dowloads up to 200 and download tons of dvds
[10:40] <Pie-rate> actually probably just leaving beryl idling should just about do it, eh?
[10:40] <fnord_> 3d animation rendering
[10:41] <fnord_> then throw some smores on a coat hanger and hover them over your box
[10:41] <fnord_> !offtopic | fnord_
[10:41] <ubotu> fnord_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:42] <theflyingfool> how do i start the network manager
[10:42] <fnord_> are you in a terminal?
[10:42] <kalaxmar> I'm on an AMD64 and I'm trying to upgrade to a 6.10 from a 6.06. On using "sudo update-manager -c" I keep getting this error continuously  "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Bzip2 subprocess returned an error code (2)". Then the update-manager aborts and I can't upgrade. Any workaround or solution to this issue?
[10:42] <inverno> Is anyone pretty handy with troubleshooting failed installs?
[10:42] <theflyingfool> i can be in terminal
[10:42] <Pie-rate> how long until the next release of ubuntu?
[10:43] <fnord_> march?
[10:43] <fnord_> !fiesty\
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fiesty\ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <fnord_> !fiesty
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fiesty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <Pie-rate> !ask|inverno
[10:43] <ubotu> inverno: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:43] <fnord_> !feisty
[10:43] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:43] <inverno> Okay then. I've been trying to install Ubuntu for a while now, downloading and burning the cd several times. Whenever I go to start/install the os it loads a orangish screen and gives me a cursor. After a few seconds the cursor stops moving. If I do the video safe option a box that says 'ubuntu' in the upper right comes up, and then it locks.
[10:43] <fnord_> !feisty | Pie-rate,
[10:44] <ubotu> Pie-rate,: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:44] <fnord_> !gnome
[10:44] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[10:44] <firepol> hi, how is it possible to change print options from openoffice (e.g. print only in grey scale, or decrease/increase print quality)? I'm using a good HP 1600 Series printer
[10:44] <fnord_> whens the next version of gnome?
[10:44] <Slart> inverno: try downloading the alternate install disc.. it's text based and works better
[10:44] <theflyingfool> does network-manager require a restart?
[10:44] <Slart> inverno: it's on the main site somewhere.. can't remember exactly
[10:44] <inverno> Thanks Slart
[10:44] <fnord_> theflyingfool, shouldent
[10:44] <kalaxmar> I'm on an AMD64 and I'm trying to upgrade to a 6.10 from a 6.06. On using "sudo update-manager -c" I keep getting this error continuously  "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Bzip2 subprocess returned an error code (2)". Then the update-manager aborts and I can't upgrade. Any workaround or solution to this issue?
[10:45] <fnord_> theflyingfool, have you tryed opening it?
[10:45] <theflyingfool> fnord_: then how do i bring it up/use it or is it automatic
[10:45] <fnord_> theflyingfool, go to a terminal
[10:45] <theflyingfool> and the command is?
[10:45] <fnord_> type net then hit tab
[10:45] <theflyingfool> nicholas@TheBeast:~$ net
[10:45] <theflyingfool> net            netcat         netstat
[10:45] <theflyingfool> netbug         netkit-ftp     network-admin
[10:46] <fnord_> a list of commands will pop up and you should be able to tell which one it is
[10:46] <fnord_> hmm
[10:46] <Gerald> I've a really noob question, but I just cant find it on the internet: how do I simple install a application such as Firefox 2.0.0.1 or jEdit 4.2??
[10:46] <kalaxmar> I thought the upgrades were done automatically
[10:46] <fnord_> im not sure
[10:46] <kalaxmar> but it seems that they are quite buggy
[10:46] <fnord_> what is it you want it to do?
[10:46] <harrisony1> Gerald, try in terminal sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:46] <harrisony1> or sudo apt-get install jedit
[10:47] <Slart> Gerald: or run synaptic package manager it's in System, Administration
[10:47] <fnord_> theflyingfool, go to system admin then networking
[10:47] <Pie-rate> Garald: or if you prefer GUIs use add/remove under applications or synaptic under system->administration
[10:47] <theflyingfool> fnord_: it looks just like it always has
[10:47] <fnord_> you should be able to configure your card from there
[10:47] <Slart> Gerald: or you can use the "Add remove programs" thingy in Applications menu
[10:47] <fnord_> whos network you going thru?
[10:47] <fnord_> is it far away?
[10:47] <Gerald> yes, but in the synaptic thing i cant find the programs I've downloaded (there are on by desk)
[10:48] <theflyingfool> i am using my wireless network now, and it always refuses to download my email
[10:48] <fnord_> i had a problem like that too,
[10:48] <theflyingfool> and about 90 % of the time it refuses to connect to irc
[10:48] <Zante> ;d
[10:48] <Slart> Gerald: System menu, administration, synaptic package manager
[10:48] <harrisony1> Gerald, what do you mean you cant find them
[10:48] <fnord_> brb
[10:48] <Zante> finally got around to connecting to this channel
[10:48] <Zante> his!
[10:49] <Jazon> problems with swap after moving to edgy.  it is saying invalid swap signature - know how i can fix this?
[10:49] <Pie-rate> jedit isn't in the repo, firefox should already be there
[10:49] <fnord_> theflyingfool, if you dont have a set router you go thru change your eesid to "any"
[10:49] <harrisony1> !jedit
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jedit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <fnord_> itll autonaticly select the best open connection
[10:49] <Gerald> harrisonly, well, i've downloaded jedit42install.jar for example, thats on my desk now, but in Synaptic I cant find the program ' jedit'
[10:50] <fnord_> anyone know where to get animated startup screens?
[10:50] <theflyingfool> fnord_: i am on my home router wouldnt doing that be a security risk?
[10:50] <cafuego_> do you really start your machine that often?
[10:50] <fnord_> oh
[10:50] <rawrbbq> hum, what would be a bad test result in memtest86?
[10:50] <Pie-rate> Gerald: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[10:50] <_root____> where are the gtk theme preferences stored? my username is sorta dead now due to a theme screwing everything up
[10:50] <harrisony1> Gerald, synaptic only works with programs downloaded via the repositories
[10:51] <cafuego_> rawrbbq: when it finds bad ram. ANY bad ram.
[10:51] <rawrbbq> hum
[10:51] <Tomcat_> Jazon: Did you format your swap when installing?
[10:51] <fnord_> theflyingfool, never mind
[10:51] <Pie-rate> Gerald: then java -jar Desktop/jedit42install.jar
[10:51] <Jazon> it was fine, until moving to edgy
[10:51] <rawrbbq> cafuego_: so, 1.2million errors is that bad?
[10:51] <Tomcat_> Jazon: Basically, vol_id -u /dev/<yourswap>, then put the UUID into /etc/fstab
[10:51] <fnord_> hmm i dont know how close are you to the router?it cuild be dropped packets
[10:51] <cafuego_> rawrbbq: Yes, time to pull the stick of ram, get the durst off, reseat it and retest.
[10:51] <fnord_> type iwconfig into a consol
[10:52] <Jazon> Tomcat_: /dev/hda3: error open volume
[10:52] <rawrbbq> cafuego: hum.. but it is a laptop, and I am not keen at messing with it
[10:52] <theflyingfool> i am at about 80% signal the router is right outside my door
[10:52] <fnord_> whats the signal level
[10:52] <fnord_> brb
[10:52] <Pie-rate> cafuego_: what's durst?
[10:52] <eviltwin> hi
[10:52] <Gerald> Pie-rate: i get: 'noclassdefinederror'
[10:52] <cafuego_> Pie-rate: It's like dust, but with a typo.
[10:52] <Tomcat_> Jazon: sudo vol_id :)
[10:53] <eviltwin> is there a way to list all the packages that you have installed?
[10:53] <Jazon> urfff sorry
[10:53] <eviltwin> like, to a file
[10:53] <rawrbbq> cafuego_: it has been running for 10 hours :X
[10:53] <cafuego_> rawrbbq: the ram should be under a lid on the bottom, clearly marked and easily accessible.
[10:53] <fnord_> theflyingfool, type iwevent and wait a while
[10:53] <Pie-rate> rawrbbq: you either have bad ram or improperly seated ram, your laptop will need opening one way or the other
[10:53] <fnord_> see what pops up probly something about dropped packets
[10:53] <simplechat> i'm trying to get ubuntu to install on my system, it can't find the dvdrom drive (which is odd because it loads off it....)
[10:53] <rawrbbq> Pie-rate: yes, but if I open it I lose my warranty
[10:53] <rawrbbq> eh
[10:53] <simplechat> its a sony AW-G170A, are there any places where i could find drivers?
[10:53] <cafuego_> rawrbbq: well
[10:53] <Jazon> Tomcat_: yup.  thats what is in my fstab :-(
[10:53] <Pie-rate> rawrbbq: then have it fixed under warranty
[10:53] <kalaxmar> I'm on an AMD64 and I'm trying to upgrade to a 6.10 from a 6.06. On using "sudo update-manager -c" I keep getting this error continuously  "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Bzip2 subprocess returned an error code (2)". Then the update-manager aborts and I can't upgrade. Any workaround or solution to this issue?
[10:53] <cafuego_> rawrbbq: back to the shop it is, then
[10:53] <theflyingfool>   Link Quality=38/94  Signal level=-57 dBm  Noise level=-95 dBm
[10:53] <theflyingfool> 
[10:54] <Pie-rate> rawrbbq it isn't your fault they gave you bad ram
[10:54] <Tomcat_> Jazon: Output of "swapon -s"?
[10:54] <rawrbbq> cafuego_: no, I just wanted it confirmed that the ram was bad :) anyhow thx for the help
[10:54] <simplechat> ??
[10:54] <cheapshades> eviltwin: dpkg -l > file.out ?
[10:54] <Jazon> nothing
[10:54] <cafuego_> rawrbbq: Yeah, ANY log of an error is bad.
[10:54] <Jazon> Tomcat_: there is no output.  even as sudo ;)
[10:55] <fnord_> theflyingfool, ive got 81/100 for link quality hmm
[10:55] <Tomcat_> Jazon: Try to "sudo mount /dev/<yourswap>"... any luck with swapon after that?
[10:55] <Pensa`MIA> what's the command for tweaking nvidia settings?
[10:55] <fnord_> not quite sure what that means
[10:55] <syracus> hi there, i have a problem to get my wlan ath0 interface up on system boot. card works after 'sudo ifdown ath0; sudo ifup ath0'....any ideas ?
[10:55] <eviltwin> cheapshades, ty
[10:55] <fnord_> has anything poped up from iwevent?
[10:55] <Jazon> Tomcat_: mountpoint does not exist
[10:56] <theflyingfool> fnord_: nope
[10:56] <theflyingfool> not a thing
[10:56] <Pie-rate> my laptop is a bitch about connecting with low signal strength. works fine on windows but the linux drivers are touchier about it
[10:56] <theflyingfool> fnord_: are you using the restricted mods or ndiswrapper
[10:56] <Gerald> do I have to 'un-zip' a tar.gz file? how?
[10:56] <Tomcat_> Jazon: Sounds like an error in your fstab... could you paste *only* the line containing your swap here?
[10:56] <Jazon> Tomcat_: fdisk -l shows this: /dev/hda3            3967        4425     3686917+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[10:56] <Tomcat_> Gerald: tar xzvf <file.tar.gz>
[10:56] <fnord_> for mine?
[10:57] <theflyingfool> yeah
[10:57] <fnord_> whatever ubuntu installed
[10:57] <Jazon> Tomcat_: fstab line is this:  UUID=55073e08-64a3-438b-b0f1-4cfeeea539e8 none swap sw 0 0
[10:57] <Nighteye> ?
[10:57] <theflyingfool> jazon: isnt the uuid unique to each drive?
[10:57] <fnord_> ove got one of the few wifi card that works plug and play with lots of distros
[10:57] <Jazon> Tomcat_: sudo vol_id -u /dev/hda3 ------> 55073e08-64a3-438b-b0f1-4cfeeea539e8
[10:58] <Tomcat_> Jazon: Mh... I don't see any error. :\
[10:58] <Jazon> me neither.   i am stumped.  weird isnt it
[10:58] <Tomcat_> Jazon: Maybe you should try to sudo mkswap /dev/hda3, then try again.
[10:58] <theflyingfool> fnord_: i got some random activity finaly
[10:59] <Gerald> thanks, Tomcat_
[11:00] <Jazon> Tomcat_: :D:D:D   cool.
[11:00] <Jazon> Tomcat_: now i wonder why the heck it needed that?
[11:00] <Tomcat_> Jazon: Do you use hibernate?
[11:00] <Jazon> Tomcat_: suspend.  all the time
[11:01] <Jazon> Tomcat_: laptop.  acpi screws it up?
[11:01] <Tomcat_> Jazon: Nah, hibernate changes the swap space signature... but not suspend.
[11:01] <Jazon> Tomcat_: ok.  i bet i used it once then....
[11:01] <theflyingfool> does anyone use D-Link System Inc D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G510
[11:02] <Jazon> so now i know.  thanks a lot Tomcat_!!
[11:02] <wims> are there a proper graphical bitorrent client for gnome ?
[11:03] <Gerald> When I have the folder 'firefox' on my desktop and I type ' sudo apt-get install firefox'  the terminal says ' already newest version'  but thats not true! Can someone give me help how to install the new firefox then?
[11:04] <harrisony1> Gerald, just wait it isnt in the newst reps. unless you want to manually update just give it a few days
[11:06] <Gerald> harrisonyl, I've waited for a long time, but firefox dont update himself automatically, even if I say 'check for updates'.. I've still got version 1.0.7....
[11:06] <theflyingfool> how do i get my email to download with evolution on a consistant basis, it works a little less than half the time, it usually just throws me a time out error every time i try and download
[11:07] <harrisony1> Gerald, dapper or edgy
[11:07] <Gerald> ??
[11:07] <phatlip> how can i upgrade firefox 1.5 to firefox 2 on dapper 6.06?
[11:07] <firepol> hi, i enabled printer sharing on a ubuntu "server" and "detect lan printers" on the client. what to do next? how can i see and use the shared printer?
[11:07] <Tomcat_> Gerald: What Ubuntu version?
[11:07] <Tomcat_> Gerald: "when did you install?"
[11:07] <Gerald> Tomcat_ about a year ago...
[11:07] <harrisony1> !firefox
[11:07] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:07] <Messer> Hi. I'm lame :) I have just broken fonts in firefox... on xubuntu i have clicked (in settings): Use subpixel hinting (i have lcd screen). Since this time font in FF are huge.
[11:08] <Messer> Any ideas how to fix it? :/
[11:08] <Tomcat_> Gerald: You need to upgrade to a newer Ubuntu version then to get a new Firefox.
[11:08] <harrisony1> phatlip, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVer & Gerald
[11:08] <harrisony1> oh sorry https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:08] <Gerald> Tomcat_: where can i see the current version?
[11:09] <Tomcat_> Messer: I've seen that... move ~/.mozilla to ~/mozillabackup or something, then start FF and write down the font settings... then restore your .mozilla and set those.
[11:09] <Siv0x> Hello, I just installed xchat-gnome, how come it isnt appearing on the start>>internet list?
[11:09] <Tomcat_> Gerald: lsb_release -a on the console
[11:09] <Messer> Tomcat_: "write down the font settings" - what exacly do you mean?
[11:09] <harrisony1> Gerald, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion will get you firefox 2.0.1
[11:09] <Tomcat_> Gerald: Or "System" => "About Ubuntu"
[11:10] <Tomcat_> Messer: Write down what font settings Firefox uses by default, so you can restore them in your profile.
[11:10] <Jazon> i'm back to work - thanks again folks!
[11:10] <Tomcat_> Siv0x: Maybe re-login... it should appear.
[11:10] <theflyingfool> under network tools shouldnt all of my devices be reconized
[11:10] <Gerald> Tomcat_: i've got 5.10 breezy, thats old?
[11:10] <Messer> Tomcat_: umm... but where can i find a place in FF where can i restore those default fonts?
[11:10] <theflyingfool> i have an unknown interface, and its on the device i am currently using to connect to the web
[11:11] <Tomcat_> Gerald: Yes. Current is 6.10 edgy. (Between was 6.06 dapper)
[11:11] <Siv0x> ok, and is kde 3.5.5 the newest version Tomcat_?
[11:11] <Messer> Gerald: quite old...
[11:11] <Tomcat_> Siv0x: Oi, KDE? Maybe it won't appear in the KDE menu... no idea.
[11:11] <Gerald> okay, does Ubuntu update himself automatically? how?
[11:11] <Siv0x> Tomcat_: no i just want to know what the newest version of that is.
[11:12] <Tomcat_> Siv0x: 3.4.3 seems to be latest in edgy.
[11:12] <Tomcat_> Gerald: System => Admin => Update Manager... it should tell you how to upgrade (I think)
[11:12] <phatlip> er, why isn't Fx 2.0 in the ubuntu repos?
[11:13] <_Adramelech_> siv0x: got sound?
[11:13] <Siv0x> Adramelech: yep :D
[11:13] <_Adramelech_> :D
[11:13] <Tomcat_> phatlip: Because new versions of apps only get synced in new releases.
[11:13] <Tomcat_> phatlip: Eh, wait... that was bollocks. It should be in there.
[11:13] <phatlip> Tomcat_: damn shame edgy is so broken then.
[11:13] <Messer> Tomcat_: anyway - without ~/.mozilla dir Firefox starts with default settings, but fonts are still huge :/
[11:14] <Siv0x> Adramelech: can you pm me pls? if i pm you, you wont receive it because i am on gaim.
[11:14] <Tomcat_> Messer: Then it must be your system fonts... try Prefs => Fonts... are all the fonts at size 10?
[11:14] <firepol> hi there, anybody knows how to SHARE a PRINTER between 2 ubuntu boxes? this guide doesnt give me results: http://occy.net/printing
[11:14] <_Adramelech_> Siv0x: done
[11:15] <Yoshimitsu> anyone had success with wireless on PPC
[11:15] <Messer> Tomcat_: Sans 11 (in XFCE -> User Interface Preferences). It's the oncly place where i can set fonts for xfce perhaps.
[11:15] <Siv0x> Adramelech: your not getting my reply?
[11:16] <_Adramelech_> Siv0x: nope
[11:16] <_Adramelech_> Siv0x: i guess #Siv0x again :P
[11:16] <Siv0x> Adramelech: k
[11:16] <Tomcat_> Messer: No idea then, sorry... should be alright. :I
[11:16] <phatlip> Yoshimitsu: i read a blog with a PowerBook set-up where he got wireless to work
[11:17] <phatlip> just a sec
[11:17] <Yoshimitsu> yeah i got one to however he was able to get the firmware
[11:17] <Yoshimitsu> unfortunatley i dont have OSX residing on my notebook anymore
[11:19] <phatlip> Yoshimitsu: modprobe new_wlan_scan_sta
[11:20] <Yoshimitsu> thanks ill give that try
[11:20] <phatlip> then get network manager from synaptic and use that to configure your airport
[11:20] <Yoshimitsu> FATAL:Module new_wlan_scan_sta not found
[11:20] <phatlip> Yoshimitsu: damn, why did you trash your os x install?
[11:21] <phatlip> sudo?
[11:21] <Yoshimitsu> fraid so
[11:21] <Yoshimitsu> yes sudo
[11:21] <Yoshimitsu> returned FATAL
[11:22] <Yoshimitsu> so i guess im going to have to play with apt reps then jack in and get network manager
[11:23] <xst_> After upgrading to edgy the fonts in emacs became very ugly and were no longer antialized. How can I fix that?
[11:23] <syracus> *re*
[11:24] <Yoshimitsu> actually i found the firmware online in a nicely rolled up .deb all
[11:24] <tau_> hi - I was wondering if anyone knows what the difference is between /etc/crontab and the root's crontab accessed by "crontab -l" ?
[11:24] <Yoshimitsu> unfortunatley its not working when i try dpkg
[11:24] <stefg> Did anyone try looking glass https://lg3d.dev.java.net/lg3d-getting-started.html#Synaptic_Install here? Is it worth the effort to testdrive it? will it remove again without consequences?
[11:24] <_Adramelech_> xst_: do you have emacs with gtk support?
[11:25] <xst_> _Adramelech_: Don't know. How do I find out of that
[11:25] <xst_> ?
[11:25] <syracus> my ath0 doesn't get up on boot time but a 'sudo ifdown ath0; sudo ifup ath0' works like a charm. does anyone have a hint what i did wrong or where i can see any error (except /var/log/messages, since none are shown there)
[11:25] <petula> can you help me my UBUNTU is down the boot proces is wrong: petula> weisst jemand was damit:
  setting up LVM Volume Groups...
  udevd-event(3214): wait_for_sysfs: waiting for /sys/devices/platform/i82365.0/bus failed
  ...done local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) ats binfmt-supportplay manager
[11:25] <_Adramelech_> xst_: I really dont know the answer but was not able to get emacs, only emacs with gtk support worked for me
[11:26] <_Adramelech_> xst_: look in synaptic what version do you have
[11:28] <tau_> Anyone know anything about crontab?
[11:29] <Messer> Ok, see you later.
[11:29] <yccheok> hello all, anyone here familiar with launchpad?
[11:30] <soon> I want a single BASH command run at startup ... where do I put it?
[11:30] <yccheok> cause i was confused with the projects hosted in launchpad. for example, gnomebaker has their own source code tree in sourceforge, why there is a need to host another source tree in launchpad?
[11:30] <petula> join #danix
[11:31] <soon> (iwpriv ath0 mode 2 ... must be as root)
[11:32] <x-r00t-x> how do i copy file on terminal??
[11:32] <Tomcat_> x-r00t-x: cp
[11:32] <soon> try cp
[11:32] <soon> (or mv to move)
[11:32] <tau_> use cp -p if you want to keep the timestamp of the original file
[11:32] <soon> cp -a copies like archive (including permissions etc)
[11:32] <artbird309> How would I set up a LDAP server
[11:33] <soon> anyone: where do I put a single bash command to get it run at boot ?
[11:33] <Slart> soon: system, preferences, sessions might work
[11:33] <soon> I try - thx
[11:33] <yccheok> hello all, anyone here familiar with launchpad?
[11:33] <yccheok> cause i was confused with the projects hosted in launchpad. for example, gnomebaker has their own source code tree in sourceforge, why there is a need to host another source tree in launchpad?
[11:33] <_Adramelech_> soon: at system startup?
[11:33] <tau_> soon: you could try putting it in /etc/rc.local
[11:33] <_Adramelech_> soon: or at terminal startup?
[11:33] <Tomcat_> yccheok: Don't repeat please.
[11:34] <tau_> soon: I'm not completely familiar with the accepted best place to put things though :/
[11:34] <fnord_> evolution is a mail program right?
[11:34] <fnord_> !evolution
[11:34] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 5022 kB, installed size 38204 kB
[11:34] <soon> I think maybe Slarts idea works ... system/preferences/session
[11:35] <soon> mail, calendar, addressbook etc
[11:36] <slackmen> hi
[11:36] <harrisony1> hi
[11:36] <fnord_> so is evolution a mail program?
[11:37] <Ha1> Yep
[11:37] <slackmen> guys I wana start using linux
[11:37] <beginn3r> Is  there anyway I can continue my installation after my installation was stopped half-way
[11:37] <beginn3r> due to power outage
[11:37] <slackmen> but I am not sure to start with which one?
[11:37] <Tomcat_> evolution is a mail program + calendar + todo list + memos... :)
[11:37] <slackmen> is ubuntu easy to use?
[11:37] <Tomcat_> slackmen: Absolutely... Ubuntu usually works out of the box, and you don't need the console often.
[11:37] <beginn3r> I mean I tried to  install the server package
[11:38] <beginn3r> and it had 85% completed
[11:38] <fnord_> Tomcat_, you dont need the console often!gasp i loves me console!
[11:38] <yccheok> Tomcat_, soli, my internet is lagging here. i didn't saw my msg appear. hence, i type twice :P
[11:38] <beginn3r> before the power turned off
[11:38] <artbird309> beginn3r: no your go to have to restart
[11:38] <Tomcat_> fnord_: Well you can still use it as often as you want... but in my first years of Ubuntu I never had it open... :D
[11:39] <beginn3r> I use the  rescue option
[11:39] <beginn3r> many  things has already in place
[11:39] <beginn3r> just  that I can't  boot  into it
[11:39] <beginn3r> maybe because grub si not yet configured
[11:39] <artbird309> How would I set up a LDAP server
[11:39] <unfun> How do I put a file inside the topmost directory of Wine's source code (that which includes the LICENSE file) ?
[11:40] <slackmen> ok thanks guys
[11:41] <fnord_> Tomcat_, so is it ok to trash all the stuff in system=>session aboute evolution if i dont use  it?
[11:42] <Tomcat_> fnord_: Sure. But why would you?
[11:42] <fnord_> just to cut down on running processes
[11:42] <Tomcat_> fnord_: alarm-notify needs 1.7M... not that much :o
[11:42] <Tomcat_> fnord_: But I see your point... evo is huge.
[11:43] <beginn3r> so,is there anyway to avoid restarting the installation ?
[11:43] <harrisony1> beginn3r, you installing a package,upgrade or new install
[11:44] <artbird309> beginn3r: I don't think so
[11:44] <beginn3r> harrisony1, new install
[11:44] <harrisony1> hmmm hate to say i dont think my friend
[11:44] <livingdaylight> does anyone happen to know with a laptop which has intel gma 950 integrated graphics will run beryl/compiz (the cube basically)
[11:44] <beginn3r> but I believe many important packages have been installed
[11:44] <Tomcat_> livingdaylight: It will.
[11:45] <livingdaylight> Tomcat_, woa, you know this?
[11:45] <Tomcat_> livingdaylight: Quite slow if you have *many* windows open, but it will work perfectly.
[11:45] <Tomcat_> livingdaylight: Sure, I use it on Intel 855... Intel 950 is only a successor.
[11:45] <artbird309> beginn3r: I would start over to be on the save side
[11:46] <livingdaylight> Tomcat_, i iz concerned because the man said the lappy doesn't have a dedicated 3-d graphics card. Its integrated graphics. And my desktop pc which has integrated graphics i know doesn't run the cube or and 3-d games or stuff
[11:46] <jimcooncat> how do I view a manpage from the command line in a gui like yelp?
[11:46] <yccheok> Tomcat_, soli, my internet is lagging here. i didn't saw my msg appear. hence, i type twice :P
[11:46] <NHL> hi, i've installed EDGY, how do i get MP3/DIVX support?
[11:47] <J-_> !splash
[11:47] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image using !gconf-editor
[11:47] <livingdaylight> Tomcat_, looking at lenovo R60e with core duo processor, so a bit of speed there. Aguess memory is the thing
[11:47] <stefg> !restricted
[11:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:47] <harrisony1> !restricted formats
[11:47] <killer__> witam
[11:47] <harrisony1> !divx
[11:47] <J-_> !gnome-splashscreen-manager
[11:47] <ubotu> gnome-splashscreen-manager: manage your GNOME splash screen images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-3 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 152 kB
[11:47] <killer__> #ubuntu.pl
[11:47] <Tomcat_> livingdaylight: Yeah, onboard Intel is slow... but it will still work. Think 10 to 20 fps, where NVidia/ATI get about 60+.
[11:47] <harrisony1> !divx
[11:47] <killer__> #ubuntu.pl
[11:48] <Tomcat_> livingdaylight: I'm amazed myself that it works so well.
[11:48] <stefg> killer: here's teh line to paste: /j #ubuntu-pl
[11:48] <Almindor> hey guys
[11:48] <harrisony1> hey
[11:48] <Almindor> I just bought a new genius tablet (G 4500)
[11:48] <Tomcat_> livingdaylight: It also depends much on what effect plugins you run... I'm talking about the default things here.
[11:48] <Almindor> it works with the tablet mouse
[11:48] <harrisony1> ubuntu-pl? Philippines
[11:48] <Almindor> but  I can't get the pen to work in gimp or anywhere
[11:48] <Tomcat_> livingdaylight: If you turn on much of the transparency stuff it's barely usable.
[11:48] <Almindor> it registers buttons on it
[11:49] <Almindor> but not movement or pressure
[11:49] <Almindor> anything I need to set?
[11:49] <livingdaylight> Tomcat_, the world of laptops is a minefield
[11:50] <artbird309> How would I set up a LDAP server in ubuntu
[11:50] <Prohibited> hey what do I have to do so when i type "gcc" it will launch /var/lib/gcc ...
[11:50] <Tomcat_> artbird309: sudo apt-get install slapd, then configure that.
[11:50] <Tomcat_> Prohibited: Install build-essential
[11:50] <livingdaylight> Tomcat_, but Feisty will run on it
[11:51] <artbird309> Tomcat_: how do I configure it
[11:51] <Tomcat_> livingdaylight: Yeah, and feisty is currently quite low in effects... runs much better than beryl on edgy.
[11:51] <livingdaylight> Tomcat_, is there a btter laptop the Lenovo R60e?
[11:51] <Tomcat_> artbird309: Edit /etc/slapd/slapd.conf I guess. :o
[11:52] <Tomcat_> livingdaylight: No idea... I'm not up to speed with laptops. But I'd go with Lenovo as well... good Linux support generally.
[11:52] <artbird309> Tomcat_ Do you have a good page that tells you how to configure it
[11:54] <Tomcat_> artbird309: I used this one: http://www.educ.umu.se/~bjorn/linux/howto/LDAP-HOWTO.html
[11:54] <karakara> more often than not you can find set up info at a project's homepage
[11:54] <Tomcat_> artbird309: But there are others... it took me years to figure everything out.
[11:54] <netdownload> hi all
[11:54] <artbird309> Tomcat_: That looks good thanks
[11:55] <netdownload> do you know a way to know total traffic for a specific connection?
[11:55] <Tomcat_> netdownload: ifconfig tells.
[11:55] <Tomcat_> netdownload: RX/TX bytes
[11:55] <netdownload> thanks a lot
[11:56] <pdedecker> Is it possible to run iTunes under Linux using Wine?
[11:56] <Tomcat_> pdedecker: Check winehq :)
[11:57] <artbird309> pdedecker: #winehq
[11:57] <Tomcat_> pdedecker: Doesn't, as it seems.
[12:00] <yoshimitsu> Wireless PPC question again, i now have network manager installed
[12:01] <yoshimitsu> however i cant seem to find it or call it from a terminal
[12:01] <yoshimitsu> any idea on syntax?
[12:01] <Tomcat_> yoshimitsu: Did you log out & log in again?
[12:01] <yoshimitsu> no i rebooted
[12:01] <vincent____> i have a icecast2 server on verheijen.overflow-error.nl:8123/live.mp3 i was wondering if it's accesible from the internet (it should be) someone wanna try it?
[12:01] <unfun> How do I acces the topmost directory of Wine's source code (that which includes the LICENSE file), ?
[12:03] <stefg> vincent____: ACK, works for me
[12:03] <vincent____> yes?
[12:03] <vincent____> don't see you in the clients list
[12:03] <stefg> yes! but cant stand the music :-)
[12:04] <vincent____> me not too
[12:04] <stefg> just tried 10 seconds
[12:04] <vincent____> it's my brothers mp3 player
[12:04] <vincent____> i use dynebolic for streaming so i needed a usb key with music
[12:04] <sleiner> alguien habla espaol
[12:04] <stefg> So i'm streaming now again
[12:05] <stefg> !es
[12:05] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:05] <vincent____> yes, i see you
[12:05] <vincent____> yee, it works
[12:05] <stefg> pheeewww... ok, that's enough for a lazy friday morning
[12:05] <vincent____> yesterday it wouldn't work (i forgot to open the udp ports)
[12:06] <vincent____> thanks for testing (and listening to that horrible music :p)
[12:06] <stefg> np :-)
[12:08] <_Adramelech_> !ru
[12:08] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[12:11] <maddash> I've got a big problem. I did a server install of Dapper with grub as bootloader, and then proceeded to upgrade the kernel via aptitude. now I can't find my vmlinuz or initrd.img files. wtf?
[12:12] <maddash> anyone have a clue? this is quite serious.
[12:12] <maddash> !upgrade
[12:12] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:13] <zagor> Ciao
[12:13] <zagor> !list
[12:13] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:14] <yoshimitsu> for some reason im unable to load network manager
[12:14] <yoshimitsu> its not in the Applications list and cant call it from terminal
[12:15] <yoshimitsu> i guess PPC wireless was a bad idea LOL
[12:15] <cens0red> hi. My sound has gone. I don't know why. It keeps cutting out, after I play, or rip, DVDs with my new DVD drive.
[12:16] <stefg> cens0red: Does restarting esd change something?
[12:17] <cens0red> stefg how do i restart it? killall -XUP ?
[12:18] <stefg> cens0red: you play too many 'killer games' :-)  killall esd as user is enough, then again 'esd'
[12:19] <cens0red> stefg nope. Doesn't change anything.
[12:20] <stefg> cens0red: then it's prolly a problem with alsa... read the alsa link in !sound
[12:20] <stefg> !sound
[12:20] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:20] <max_> What is the command to blank the screen?
[12:20] <stefg> clear
[12:20] <fnord_> the power button
[12:20] <max_> i mean blank the display
[12:20] <stefg> hehe
[12:20] <GreyGhost> any one have an idea how to get a d link modem to work with edgy which worked outa box with Dapper?
[12:21] <stefg> GreyGhost: model and make?
[12:21] <GreyGhost> d link 560 E
[12:22] <GreyGhost> stefg ,d link 560 E ... i temporarly can't use my broad band
[12:22] <ken> Help: Flash is not working correctly with Firefox, flash-games work in a jerky manner. I installed Flash player through Firefox's interface, i.e. when i navigated to a flash site, firefox told me i needed the plugin and the browser searched and downloaded it, but now i wish to remove that plugin from firefox. How do i remove this flash plugin?
[12:23] <flossgeek> ken: you need to remove the libflashplayer.so i thinks let me double check
[12:23] <ken> flossgeek: and i remove that through Synaptic?
[12:24] <stefg> Grey-Ghost: on my laptop i founf that some of the sl-modem and ltmodem stuff only works with the -386 kernel... instead of -generic
[12:24] <stefg> that might be the reason why it stopped working in edgy
[12:24] <flossgeek> ken:did u install flash through synaptic?
[12:24] <GreyGhost> stefg ,must be i have generic ... if i want i386 edgy i'll have to dl everything again?
[12:24] <NAiL> I'm running dapper on my laptop. I just plugged in an usbdisk, and got loads of unresolved symbols in dmesg instead of the disk being automounted. Is this a known issue?
[12:24] <ken> flossgeek: no as i said firefox downloaded and installed it from the internet
[12:25] <flossgeek> ken: right, do the command "locate libflashplayer.so"
[12:25] <stefg> Grey.. no :-) sudo apt-get install linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386
[12:25] <cens0red> stefg thanks. The alsamixer section fixed it. Weird, that it only happens when I'm using the DVD burner.
[12:25] <ken> flossgeek: /home/ken/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[12:26] <flossgeek> ken: ok, now issue "rm /home/ken/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so"
[12:26] <ken> stefg: I run AMD Athlon 2600 xp+, is it safe for me to install the 386-linux kernel, to gain performance gains over the generic kernel that edgy installed by defualt
[12:27] <GreyGhost> stefg ,ahh... k ... then i'll have to wait till i get my broand back i suppose.... ( what exactly is the package? a kernel optimized for i386? then what is gfeneric?
[12:27] <GreyGhost> !generic
[12:27] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[12:27] <ken> flossgeek: That worked! Thank you for your prompt reply
[12:27] <flossgeek> ken: no probs, you better off installing flash player 9 beta, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279990
[12:27] <stefg> GreyGhost: if you are lucke there's a 386 kernel-package on the CD already,
[12:27] <GreyGhost> !i386
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i386 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <flossgeek> ken: look for the two flash debs on the link i just posted and install them flash will run nicely then
[12:28] <stefg> !linux-image-386
[12:28] <ken> flossgeek: I heard flash 9 was beta and doesn't work well, shall i install it in preference to Flash 7, that is available through flashplugin-nonfree?
[12:28] <ubotu> linux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[12:28] <flossgeek> ken: believe me it works better than anything macromedia have ever made for linux
[12:28] <ken> flossgeek: I take your word for it :)
[12:28] <stefg> this is a metapackage, the actual kernel package is about 40 MB (incl. restricted
[12:28] <flossgeek> ken: i use it without no issues ;-)
[12:29] <GreyGhost> stefg , ok
[12:29] <flossgeek> ken: shame its not open source though
[12:29] <ken> flossgeek: :(
[12:30] <ken> flossgeek: Do i need both the standalone and plugin for flash? or just the plugin?
[12:31] <GreyGhost> FF doesn't come precompiled for linux?
[12:31] <Woody_> hello
[12:31] <GreyGhost> !hi | Woody_
[12:31] <ubotu> Woody_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:32] <Woody_> i need some help PEOPLE
[12:32] <gnomefreak> !ask | Woody_
[12:32] <ubotu> Woody_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:32] <Woody_> thanks
[12:32] <Woody_> first of all
[12:33] <Woody_> i am new to the whole thing called Linux
[12:33] <Woody_> so i just downloaded Ubuntu
[12:33] <Woody_> and i burned the iso on a CD
[12:33] <Woody_> i booted it
[12:33] <ken> gnomefreak: I want the Ubuntu 6.10 splash screen to be like 6.06 splash screen i mean Ubuntu logo + scrolling lines of text. How do i do it?
[12:33] <Woody_> and now i am in the Ubuntu OS
[12:33] <ken> Woody_: Dont use the enter key as SPACE, the space exists for a reason
[12:33] <GreyGhost> Woody_ ,putting it in one single longg line would be easier to understand ;)
[12:34] <ken> !space
[12:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about space - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:34] <gnomefreak> ken: in /boot/grub/menu.lst look for the kernel line in it you will see quiet take that word out of it
[12:34] <POVaddct> !enter
[12:34] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:34] <stefg> Here's a ggod read to clarify all the questions about -386, -k7 and -generic kernels
[12:34] <ken> gnomefreak: But that will give me a complete text output, i want ubuntu logo  + text
[12:34] <gnomefreak> ken: it will give you text + splash
[12:34] <ken> gnomefreak: ok, thank you
[12:34] <stefg> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html
[12:35] <GreyGhost> stefg ,thanks :)
[12:35] <Woody_> how can i connect to internet? i want to connect to my wireless router. i am not finding the thing about the wireless lan to search for networks, thanks
[12:35] <ken> stefg: gnomefreak: POVaddct: I am having a AMD Athlon 2600 XP+, will using the i386 linux kernel give me anything better over the generic that Ubuntu 6.10 installed by defualt?
[12:35] <ken> Woody_: thats better :)
[12:35] <gnomefreak> ken: no -generic is what you want
[12:35] <stefg> ken, don't touch anything! You'll break it :-)
[12:36] <ken> gnomefreak: stefg: ok
[12:36] <ken> stefg: what about the keyboard ;)
[12:36] <stefg> hehe
[12:37] <Woody_> ken can you help?
[12:37] <ken> Woody_: Sure! Please read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/connect-to-internet.html
[12:37] <flossgeek> Woody_: System>Networking
[12:37] <POVaddct> !wireless
[12:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
 and now i am in the Ubuntu OS | <Woody_> how can i connect to internet?
[12:37] <fmachado> ?!?
[12:38] <ken> fmachado: that makes sense to me, whats wrong with you? :)
[12:38] <gnomefreak> Woody_: if your here your connected to net
[12:38] <ken> gnomefreak: :)
[12:38] <fmachado> :)
[12:38] <POVaddct> fmachado: maybe its on a second machine
[12:38] <Woody_> ubuntu is on the other laptop next to me :D
[12:38] <ken> gnomefreak: maybe he is on another machine
[12:38] <fmachado> Woody_ aaahhhmmm
[12:38] <gnomefreak> Woody_: figured as much but had to say it
[12:38] <ken> :|
[12:38] <Woody_> :D
[12:38] <flossgeek> Woody_: you need to go to System>Networking and enter the SSID etc
[12:39] <POVaddct> flossgeek: first he has to make sure his wifi card is supported at all
[12:39] <Woody_> in the system i have nothing called "networking"
[12:39] <ken> Woody_: The Wireless section in the link i gave you will get you connected in a go
[12:39] <james> Hello, problems here.  I've created a shared direcotry so that all users on my machine can put files they want to share with each other there.  Basically, I want a directory where anyoen can create a file, subdirectory, delete, whatever.  However, despite giving the directory every permission for every possible user, through the file manager, I can't create a new file or folder with anyone except root.
[12:39] <flossgeek> System>Admin>Networking
[12:39] <gnomefreak> Woody_: system>admin>networking
[12:39] <fmachado> sometimes I see  ppl asking help for things that they  are already doing...
[12:39] <ken> Woody_: Please read the wireless section at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/connect-to-internet.html
[12:40] <acab_> #join ubuntu-it
[12:40] <acab_> ops :)
[12:40] <ken> james:hmm...
[12:40] <Woody_> thanks guys for your help, i still have another question.. ill ask it after i get connected :D
[12:40] <flossgeek> Woody_:What wirelss card is it
[12:40] <naxxtor> hi peoples - can anyone give me some clarification on
[12:40] <naxxtor> hi peoples - can anyone give me some clarification on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773624
[12:40] <naxxtor> i'm getting the error Screen 1 and 2 cannot be of type NONE
[12:41] <naxxtor> i don't see where i'm supposed to set the screen type
[12:41] <ken> james: Cant help you on that one, sorry.
[12:41] <james> I can create subdirectories via Terminal, just not through the gui...
[12:41] <hdibani_> Hi everybody, how do i use WPA with the network-admin window in ubuntu?
[12:41] <hdibani_> i only see one place to put a wep key
[12:42] <james> *sigh*  Any idea where I could get help then?
[12:42] <ken> james: You want a directory that every user can write/read to, right?
[12:42] <gnomefreak> naxxtor: in the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf find the screen section and that is where you would set it
[12:42] <flossgeek> hdibani: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[12:42] <james> Yep
[12:42] <james> And create subdirectories...
[12:42] <james> etc...
[12:43] <naxxtor> gnomefreak: i got that far - i'm not sure what section to edit though
[12:43] <naxxtor> i've edited the line to say Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS, CRT"
[12:43] <gnomefreak> im not looking at the page but find whatever section it tells you to add things to
[12:43] <naxxtor> but that doesn't seem to help any
[12:43] <james> ken: I put the group to 'USERS' and gave the directory every permission for that group (rwx)
[12:43] <james> ken: Then did the same thing for Owner and All when that didn't work
[12:44] <naxxtor> thing is it says "Now, repeat steps 2 and 3 for the following Sections (if confused, check my completed xorg.conf file at the bottom of the page):" and the xorg file at the bottom of the page doesn't help me
[12:46] <naxxtor> it says "monitor 1 and 2 cannot be set to type none"
[12:46] <fmachado> james, at the parent directory execute "ls -la" and "mount" and then put the output in pastebin
[12:46] <naxxtor> (not screen as a said earlier)
[12:46] <gnomefreak> naxxtor: can you please paste your xorg.conf to pastebin
[12:46] <naxxtor> i can certainly try
[12:46] <fmachado> james, do you know pastebin?
[12:47] <kadk> hey, is there any way to turn my debian box into a "network storage"; like everbody in the house(laptop, another pcs,etc) can store files on it just like a regular drive. is it possible for samba to do that?
[12:47] <ikonia> I've just installed vice on my laptop through dpkg, yet, there is no vice binary installed ?
[12:47] <ikonia> how do I use vice on ubuntu ?
[12:48] <kadk> man vice
[12:48] <POVaddct> ikonia: the c64 binary is called x64
[12:48] <ikonia> thank you
[12:49] <gnomefreak> brb coffee
[12:49] <xipietotec> @lart gnomefreak for no reason
[12:49] <zpiggy> moinsen
[12:49] <ken> gnomefreak: POVaddct: Is there a tutorial somewhere teaching one how to read man pages? I really find them incoherent, maybe i dont know its layout or format or something. Just know i wanted to do "chmod command" for a folder, but i forgot the syntax and the man page appeared too complicated :(
[12:50] <eXistenZ> How can I access the gnome's configuration utility?
[12:50] <ken> eXistenZ: gconf
[12:50] <POVaddct> ken: just read and understand them. what is so difficult about it?
[12:50] <naxxtor> http://pastebin.ca/295435 <- my xorg.conf
[12:51] <zpiggy> they are difficoult at the beginning ken - but experience does the rest
[12:51] <ken> POVaddct: i dont understand its layout or presentation or whatever, all i want to know is the syntax of chmod command and the man pages spits out oozles of info, now where do i find the syntax in that mess? :(
[12:51] <gnomefreak> ken: try chmod --help?
[12:51] <eXistenZ> How can I fix this "Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'."
[12:51] <_Adramelech_> ken: while u get used to man pages you can google for tutorials on chmod
[12:52] <stefg> eXistenZ: huh? This is a bug from pre-Release edgy, which is solved for a looong time...
[12:52] <_Adramelech_> ken: sintax is the first thing in man pages
[12:52] <xipietotec> ken: man pages aren't necessarily a tutorial in bash/*nix, but rather if you develop that background they make loads of sense, otherwise they're useful, but may not make a ton of sense
[12:53] <eXistenZ> stefg, My system is updated
[12:53] <naxxtor> any ideas on what i'm doing wrong?
[12:53] <stefg> eXistenZ: search through launchpab-bugs, you'll find something there
[12:53] <POVaddct> ken: the general syntax is at the beginning of the page. three major calling sytaxes exist: one with symbolic modes, one with octal modes and one with a referenced file that supplies the mode
[12:54] <ken> _Adramelech_: xipietotec: gnomefreak: POVaddct: About chmod it tells me this: "Each MODE is of the form `[ugoa] *([-+=] ([rwxXst] *|[ugo] ))+'". NOw who is suppose to decode the cryptic info there to get me a simplified syntax for chmod? Or is there some place in the man page that summarises the thing?
[12:54] <POVaddct> ken: all the OPTIONS and MODEs are explained below
[12:54] <ken> POVaddct: let me have a look again
[12:54] <vbgunz> anybody here know how to install modules under python 2.5 ? I try to say $ python2.5 setup.py install and get this: /usr/include/python2.5/pyconfig.h (No such file or directory)
[12:55] <POVaddct> ken: ah, that is a regular expression
[12:55] <siv0x> Can anyone help me with installing limewire? I have Sun Java 5.0
[12:55] <apokryphos> ubotu: limewire
[12:55] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[12:55] <stefg> Ken: ok, here comes your dose of spoonfeeding: chmod 777 /mydir (let the whole world read,write,execute)
[12:55] <naxxtor> http://pastebin.ca/295435 <-- trying to get Xinerama working... I get "Screen 1 and 2 cannot be set to type NONE"
[12:55] <POVaddct> ken: google on how to read regular expressions
[12:56] <ken> stefg: I fear octal/binary nos. thats why i wanted a simply "+rwx" syntax
[12:56] <xipietotec> some [program/attribute]  [+/-/=]  [some permissions/operations]  meta]  meta] 
[12:56] <xipietotec> not too difficult to understand
[12:56] <aeromix> how can I get to know the KDE version unless not logging in?
[12:56] <POVaddct> ken: i always use octal modes
[12:57] <siv0x> I've downloaded the rpm file.. but when i type "fakeroot alien -d LimeWireLinux.rpm"  i get File "LimeWireLinux.rpm" not found.
[12:57] <vbgunz> siv0x: try ./LimeWireLinux.rpm
[12:57] <ken> xipietotec: I am talking about someone not used to man pages
[12:57] <_Adramelech_> ken: chmod u=+r file
[12:57] <eXistenZ> stefg, I cannot find this bug there
[12:57] <_Adramelech_> ken: thats an example
[12:58] <rahab> hi there
[12:58] <siv0x> vbgunz: bash: /LimeWireLinux.rpm: No such file or directory
[12:58] <zpiggy> ok here my question - how to convert unhinted MOV (Quicktime) movies to mpeg WITHOUT shifting the sound track????
[12:58] <MenZa> http://menza.org/upload/icravethisclient.png <- Can anyone tell me if it's possible to get a terminal irc client with a similar layout?
[12:58] <xipietotec> ken: that's a regular expression, not really man page specific, plus it explains it down below. It's like showing an example formula, and then explaining what the formula means down below
[12:58] <zpiggy> mencoder shift it
[12:58] <apokryphos> aeromix: kde-config --version
[12:58] <aeromix> apokryphos: tnx!
[12:58] <apokryphos> aeromix: note also that #kubuntu exists
[12:59] <vbgunz> siv0x: are you sudo? maybe you have to make the rpm executable? e.g. chmod +x filenameandpath?
[12:59] <xipietotec> e.g., here's the quadratic equation. Followed by: Here's what that jumbled mess actually means
[12:59] <aeromix> apokryphos: I am not using kubuntu, I just installed KDE..
[12:59] <vbgunz> siv0x: not sure :(
[12:59] <siv0x> vbgunz: same here, i'm reading this off a forum. :s
[12:59] <apokryphos> aeromix: aka you're using kubuntu
[12:59] <gnomefreak> naxxtor: im not sure what the problem is it seems to look ok
[01:00] <apokryphos> aeromix: kubuntu is basically ubuntu with kde instead of gnome. #kubuntu is there for all kde-related questions
[01:00] <aeromix> apokryphos: I am using ubuntu! I installed just kde package, not kubuntu-desktop
[01:00] <stefg> eXistenZ: maybe  this helps :  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=324227
[01:00] <vbgunz> siv0x: when all else fails, try making the rpm executable and then use sudo on alien with the rpm... try it out
[01:00] <apokryphos> aeromix: #kubuntu is there for all kde-related questions
[01:00] <aeromix> apokryphos: ok
[01:00] <gnomefreak> aeromix: your using kubuntu   ubuntu + kde
[01:00] <gOldZahN> can some1 tell me the cmd to reconfig xserver?
[01:00] <naxxtor> gnomefreak: thanks for looking anyway
[01:00] <eXistenZ> stefg, I don't have kde though
[01:00] <POVaddct> !drxx | gOldZahN
[01:00] <ubotu> gOldZahN: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:00] <gnomefreak> gOldZahN: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorgh
[01:00] <brutopia> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or something
[01:00] <brutopia> with sudo of course
[01:00] <gOldZahN> kk thX
[01:00] <apokryphos> right
[01:01] <gnomefreak> gOldZahN: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:01] <brutopia> or was it xserver-common
[01:01] <apokryphos> it's xserver-xorg
[01:01] <aeromix> gnomefreak: afaik ubuntu+kde =! kubuntu! I use kde ocassionaly, normaly gnome:)
[01:01] <brutopia> ok
[01:01] <Theodor> Good morning everyone.
[01:01] <stefg> eXistenZ: sorry, i can't really tell what's wrong. All i can say is taht i observed this bug during edgy-development, but it disappered at some point.
[01:01] <apokryphos> aeromix: that's basically what it is. Kubuntu-desktop will just give you a few more touch ups i.e. to artwork
[01:01] <apokryphos> and perhaps a few more applications pulled in
[01:02] <ken> !Warning, Not for the weak hearted, execute this: "sudo rm -rf /" ;)
[01:02] <aeromix> apokryphos: I use gnome in 95% cases. KDE just for amusement:)
[01:02] <apokryphos> ok
[01:02] <Vollstrecker> Hi, ist there something like packages.debian.org for ubuntu, too?
[01:02] <stefg> ken, this is asking for a  ban, and nor funny at all
[01:03] <_Adramelech_> ken: Is not what people expect on a support channel
[01:03] <alecjw> stefg: he's been kicked
[01:03] <stefg> ...pheww...
[01:04] <lupine_85> Vollstrecker: packages.ubuntu.com ... ;
[01:04] <lupine_85> ;)
[01:04] <alecjw> Vollstrecker: yeah. package.debian.org.ubuntu, but it's better to use the ubuntu mirrors
[01:04] <Theodor> Can I merge those 2 toolbars in Ubuntu?
[01:04] <alecjw> Vollstrecker: sorry, /ubuntu, not .ubuntu
[01:04] <eXistenZ> stefg, Can metacity cause this problem?
[01:04] <Theodor> I don't like them being one on the top, the other on the bottom.
[01:05] <stefg> eXistenZ: i don't think so... can you manually start gnome-settings-daemon ?
[01:05] <alecjw> Theodor: yes. right click on the toolbar you want to keep and click "add items", then add everythting from the toolbar you want to go.l then delete ther toolbar you don't want.
[01:05] <Vollstrecker> I can't use the mirros, because I don't use ubuntu. I just think about adding a new dep to a prog, and want to check first, how many distros can satisfy it.
[01:05] <GeorgePets> anyone knows a good way to get packages and their dependancies from the universe for offline install ? Running on WinXP currently. Got my Xubuntu at home :)
[01:05] <Theodor> alecjw, thanks .... but the problem is that the right click is not working on my touchpad.
[01:05] <Theodor> any ideas?
[01:05] <eXistenZ> stefg, yes
[01:06] <eXistenZ> stefg, it is running
[01:06] <stefg> eXistenZ: ... maybe you just have a broken user setting in your account. try to add a new user for testing and see if the prob persists
[01:06] <alecjw> Theodor: you got a mouse that you can plug in? i'd be yelling at the technical support people if i were you :D
[01:06] <Theodor> *Sighs* ....
[01:06] <Belisarivs> Hi. I have a problem. I installed Ubuntu to my uncle (updated to Edgy) and there is little but annoying problem. He uses D link D-520 wifi card. I downloaded firmware, set all up and connected to the internet. So far so good. But Ubuntu doesn't reconnect on login. Where is problem?
[01:06] <Theodor> I don't know when I'm going to leave my country.
[01:06] <Theodor> let me see if I have a free USB mouse.
[01:06] <alecjw> Vollstrecker: package.debian.org/ubuntu and package.ubuntu.com contain the same thing
[01:07] <james> fmachado: SOrry, I got called AFK.  And no, I don't know about pastebin...
[01:07] <eXistenZ> stefg, how can I start gnome' config manager
[01:07] <eXistenZ> stefg, I press gconf but it won't start up
[01:07] <ken> what happened?!!!
[01:07] <stefg> it's 'gconf-editor'
[01:07] <eXistenZ> ah
[01:07] <zpiggy> does anyone know how to get glx version 1.3 for an ATI RADEON 9960 XT ?
[01:07] <Theodor> Okay fellas, I have a .rpm file. I just double click it to install it ?
[01:07] <alecjw> Vollstrecker: if you want to check if ubuntu has a certain package, try package.ubuntu.com/<packageName>
[01:08] <ken> Theodor: You need alien to convert a .rpm to a .deb, and than you can install it
[01:08] <Vollstrecker> I found it already, atm I try to find it in opensuse
[01:08] <stefg> Vollstrecker: or simplly poke the bot /msg ubotu info packagename
[01:08] <alecjw> Theodor: install alien (sudo aptitude install alien) then i'll try and faind out what you need to do next...
[01:08] <Theodor> I'm installing a new driver for my graphic card, which is ATI X600
[01:08] <fmachado> james, at the parent directory execute "ls -la" and "mount" and then copy/paste the output into pastebin ( http://pastebin.com/ )
[01:08] <alecjw> ken: you were kicked
[01:09] <alecjw> you know what you did
[01:09] <ken> alecjw: :(
[01:09] <Theodor> So what I downloaded is a .rpm file.
[01:09] <ken> apokryphos: you did that?
[01:09] <Theodor> I do nothing with it?
[01:09] <apokryphos> ken: yes. Please do not give out silly information in the channel.
[01:09] <obstfliege> guten morgen
[01:09] <zpiggy> where did you get the driver?
[01:10] <alecjw> !de | obstfliege
[01:10] <ubotu> obstfliege: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:10] <Theodor> from ATI
[01:10] <_Adramelech_> how can apokryphos read all those channels he is on?
[01:10] <_Adramelech_> :S
[01:10] <alecjw> Theodor: it's alien -<someLetter> <filename>.rpm
[01:10] <alecjw> but i need to check what that letter is
[01:10] <Theodor> Let me try.
[01:10] <zpiggy> is that the fglrx ? or the radeon - i never understood wich driver is the free and wich not
[01:10] <stefg> _Adramelech_: after a while you don't need to read anymore... you recognize patterns...
[01:10] <ken> Theodar: "sudo apt-get install alien", after that convert your downloaded .rpm file to a .deb file by running the command "alien <package_you_downloaded.rpm>" after that run "sudo dpkg -i <package_you_downloaded.deb>"
[01:11] <ken> apokryphos: Is the above response silly? :)
[01:11] <siv0x> Ken: i'm trying to install limewire and when i enter sudo alien LimewireLinux.rpm it says File "LimewireLinux.rpm" not found.  what do i do?
[01:11] <eXistenZ> stefg, When I select keyboard preferences, that message appears
[01:11] <MenZa> How does one check what sound card one has?
[01:11] <Xbehave> im looking through the forums, to find out how to install a webcam but i seam to get the impression im missing something basic, where should i start?
[01:11] <Theodor> Okay will try that, thanks.
[01:11] <Belisarivs> BTW, I used that wifimanager to connect. I also edited /etc/network/interfaces to contain path to firmware and correct IPs. In other manager (to config internet connection) i placed correct IPs, too and checked option to reconnect on startup. What else?
[01:11] <POVaddct> zpiggy: radeon is the free/open source driver, fglrx is the closed source one
[01:11] <Theodor> so rpm is what?
[01:11] <stefg> eXistenZ: which is pretty plausible
[01:11] <eXistenZ> stefg, why?
[01:11] <zpiggy> ok thanks - i will have a look on the ati page
[01:11] <Theodor> I'm totally new to Linux.
[01:11] <ken> Theodor: rpm = red hat package manager
[01:11] <tritonx> Anyone here is running Ubuntu on an Asus P5b deluxe?
[01:11] <alecjw> Theodor: rpm==red hat pacakge. used by red hat, fedora etc
[01:11] <ken> Theodor: It doesn;t work in Ubuntu which is a debian derivative, you need .deb files to install s/w
[01:12] <alecjw> Theodor: and it's alien -d <filename>.rpm
[01:12] <ken> siv0x: Did you download a .rpm of that name?
[01:12] <apokryphos> ken: alien is  generally not advisable of course, but I don't know about the ATI driver. Perhaps that's the only way.
[01:12] <Belisarivs> None?
[01:12] <POVaddct> Theodor: you dont want to install software as an rpm unless you really have to. is there no ubuntu package available?
[01:12] <vega-> apokryphos: no it's not
[01:12] <vega-> there is of course an ubuntu package, forget the rpm
[01:12] <goldzahn> pls the cmd to reconfig xserv 1time again^^
[01:13] <goldzahn> ive crashed my x
[01:13] <Enselic`> I have shared a dir with SMB, but when an WinXP computer tries to go to me, it requres password. What is this password?
[01:13] <vega-> Theodor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:13] <apokryphos> ken: see what vega- said.
[01:13] <MenZa> dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg goldzahn
[01:13] <MenZa> I think
[01:13] <goldzahn> thX
[01:13] <Theodor> could not find the package Alien.
[01:13] <ken> apokryphos: OK, looks like little knowledge is dangerous for the community, let me keep Quiet and get lost :(
[01:13] <Theodor> Is is on the DVD?
[01:13] <alecjw> MenZa: two minuses --reconfigure
[01:13] <wimpies> HI all, I got this strange keyboard-shift problem.  when I press and hold the shift only the first character is presented shifted, then it reverts to non shifted
[01:13] <Belisarivs> none will help me?
[01:14] <vega-> Theodor: probably not, you need to configure your sources first
[01:14] <Theodor> how to do that?
[01:14] <vega-> Theodor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#what
[01:14] <vega-> Theodor: add the universe and multiverse repositories
[01:14] <POVaddct> stefg: yeah..
[01:14] <siv0x> i'm trying to install limewire and when i enter alien -d LimewireLinux.rpm it says File "LimewireLinux.rpm" not found.  what do i do?
[01:14] <Belisarivs> Theodor : ubuntuguide.org read it.
[01:14] <vega-> Theodor: and then follow the first link
[01:15] <goldzahn> MenZa: it says unknown option
[01:15] <Theodor> vega-, thanks mate. Will do that.
[01:15] <MenZa> !xserver-xorg
[01:15] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 584 kB
[01:15] <MenZa> hmm
[01:15] <MenZa> !xorg
[01:15] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:15] <POVaddct> stefg: i think "how to install software?" should be the top of the list in a faq
[01:15] <MenZa> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:15] <alecjw> Theodor: go to System>>Admionistration>>Software Sources and select the checkboxes to enable universe and multiverse
[01:16] <_Adramelech_> Siv0x: where did u get that rpm from?
[01:16] <tritonx> theodore, you could try automatix
[01:16] <siv0x> www.limewire.com
[01:16] <qjon> join #hack
[01:16] <tritonx> and get frostwire instead
[01:16] <alecjw> Theodor: and unless you know what source code is and might find some use for it, you might as well stop it from downloading source code too
[01:16] <Belisarivs> Hm, i thought, that I'll get some help there. But I see it is futile. Farewell.
[01:16] <alecjw> qjon: it's /join #chennelName
[01:17] <xipietotec> I find Synaptic's way of handling repository enabling confusing
[01:17] <stefg> POVaddct: i came to the point to write up my own migartion guide for my customers... a non-technical one, more of a less sarcastic version of http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[01:17] <firepol> xipietotec: then edit manually /etc/apt/sources.list ;)
[01:17] <xipietotec> firepol: which is what I do
[01:17] <firepol> xipietotec: we are on the same boat.
[01:18] <alecjw> siv0x: you are in the right directory, aren't you? try doing cd Desktop first.
[01:18] <goldzahn> it says conflicting actions when i typed dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:18] <qjon> alecjw: thx
[01:18] <goldzahn> im in recovery mode
[01:18] <alecjw> siv0x: and i've tried installing limewire before. it didn't work for me
[01:18] <alecjw> usding the rpm
[01:18] <firepol> im just installing an office network for 2 secreataries, composed by a fileserver (+print sharing) and 2 PCs. im running ubuntu on all of them
[01:19] <firepol> now i see several usability issues but ill try to find solutions for them
[01:19] <alecjw> goldzahn: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:19] <firepol> nr 1 usability issue: printing
[01:19] <goldzahn> conflicting actions -e (--control) and -r (--remove)
[01:19] <xipietotec> that's my one gripe about things in *nix...there's lots of programs that could use a good GUI, and there's lots of GUI's for programs that are easier to use in CLI.
[01:19] <siv0x> alecjw: I used to be able to install it when i had debian but..
[01:19] <_Adramelech_> Siv0x: why dont you get gnutella instead of limewire better?
[01:19] <stefg> !cups | firpol
[01:19] <ubotu> firpol: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:19] <alecjw> goldzahn: there's no space in it
[01:19] <alecjw> goldzahn: dpkg-reconfigure
[01:20] <firepol> stefg, thanks for cups, i installed the printer. it works. but i cant seem to share it
[01:20] <theloner> hi there.. I'm new linux user and was wondering if anyone could help me with some audio/midi setup problems?
[01:20] <siv0x> Adramelech; its better?
[01:20] <goldzahn> alecjw ah it works now big thanks
[01:20] <stefg> firepol: you got two options: a.) samba which is a viable thing even in linux-only environments, b.) cupsd
[01:21] <alecjw> goldzahn: i told the person who i think was telling you to put a space in it that it wass wrong. suppode (s)he didn't tell you
[01:21] <DaveEngland> hello, what do i need to type, to install the gcc compiler pls?
[01:21] <stefg> !build
[01:21] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:21] <alecjw> DaveEngland: sudo aptitude install gcc
[01:21] <firepol> stefg: im trying with cupsys at the moment
[01:22] <superjoe> how do you kill a process that is root ie automatix.py
[01:22] <Lathiat> DaveEngland: you probably want build-essential and not just gcc
[01:22] <DaveEngland> yes yes.. :D
[01:22] <Lathiat> superjoe: sudo killall automatix.py // sudo kill <pid>
[01:22] <DaveEngland> sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[01:22] <DaveEngland> or.. how do i do that? :D
[01:22] <Lathiat> yep
[01:22] <Lathiat> thats the one
[01:22] <alecjw> DaveEngland: put you proably want all of build-essential, so you might want to do sudo aptitude install build-essential
[01:22] <DaveEngland> ok tnx guys :D
[01:22] <alecjw> *but
[01:22] <firepol> stefg, i activated the "detect lan printers" but the problem is that there is no popup or nothing appears...
[01:23] <Lathiat> mm im old-school
[01:23] <theloner> what software should i install to get midifiles playing?
[01:23] <Lathiat> i might start using aptitude one day :P
[01:23] <firepol> stefg, anyway thanks. i will try again from scratch by following the guides u gave me
[01:23] <whazilla> can somebody guide me to a subversion serv under ubuntu ?
[01:24] <alecjw> DaveEngland: and, to compile anyhting, you need your linux headers too: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r` - the ` key is nxt to the 1 key
[01:24] <superjoe> lathiat, i type this "sudo killall automatix.py // sudo kill <pid>"
[01:25] <theloner> musanteon asiantuntijoita paikalla?
[01:25] <Lathiat> superjoe: no
[01:25] <shafire> have you got an installation tutorial, how to install an encrypted ubuntu?
[01:26] <slacker_nl> !mo3
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mo3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <slacker_nl> !mp3
[01:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:26] <stefg> firepol: i normally set up samba for the network.... you never know if someone with a win-laptop needs access one day, and find it generally more convinient
[01:27] <superjoe> lathiat, what then just  sudo killall automatix.py
[01:28] <Lathiat> superjoe: yeh try that
[01:29] <sqer> heloo
[01:29] <_Adramelech_> !hi | sqer
[01:29] <ubotu> sqer: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:30] <alecjw> someone speak! iot's scarily quiet here!
[01:30] <alecjw> *it's
[01:30] <sqer> :)
[01:30] <Herodes> anyone knows a good way to get packages and their dependancies from the universe for offline install ? Running on WinXP currently. Got my Xubuntu at home :)
[01:30] <alecjw> someone just crash their pc and ask for help!!!
[01:30] <superjoe> lathiat thanks that worked
[01:31] <alecjw> Herodes: nope. just download the package from package.ubuntu.com and then click on all of the dependencies and download those, and then click on teir dependencies and download those (it took me hours to install xorg that way!)
[01:31] <_Adramelech_> Herodes: dont think theres a way, you can download deb packaes from internet and resolve the dependencies but theres no dependencies resolver for windows....
[01:32] <alecjw> +1 to what _Adramelech_ said
[01:32] <Herodes> alecjw I suppose you know ::  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/i386/
[01:32] <firepol> stefg, could be, but in the environment i work for the 3 pcs are not connected to internet and nobody else should connect to them
[01:33] <eXistenZ> Does anyone have eclipse installed?
[01:33] <IdleOne> Herodes, try http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[01:33] <LameBMX> Herodes, if you got time maybe if u run ubuntu in vmware then copy the folder over the network ... :/ but thats time consuming too to set all that up ... but it may be a little easier on the eyes then reading all the dependcies
[01:33] <LameBMX> Herodes, not necessarily vmware .. but any network capable virtual machine
[01:33] <magicfinger> anyone know why i keep getting error 21 after install of linux
[01:33] <gOldZahN> im looking for a powerful icq client for ubuntu-gnome. can any1 help me?
[01:34] <Herodes> ic thx all ..
[01:34] <stefg> firepol: ok, but compared to all those quite archaic unix-style solutions i find samba the more modern and manageable solution.
[01:34] <alecjw> magicfinger: is that hte grub error?
[01:34] <magicfinger> yes mate
[01:34] <alecjw> magicfinger: you repartitioned or removed any drives in between the installtion and getting the error
[01:34] <IdleOne> gOldZahN, try Licq
[01:35] <gOldZahN> IdleOne, okaY i will trY
[01:35] <alecjw> gOldZahN: i use gaim for icq
[01:35] <rahab> gOldZahN: whats wrong with gaim?
[01:35] <magicfinger> well i had to delete partion once i got that message and try again
[01:35] <floating> Hello. Why can't I see a picture when I try view macromedia content on website ? I hear a sound, but no video
[01:35] <stefg> !flash
[01:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:36] <magicfinger> i think grub is pointing at the wrong drive
[01:36] <slacker_nl> gOldZahN: gaim is perfect
[01:37] <gOldZahN> no i dont think so
[01:37] <slacker_nl> gOldZahN: why not?
[01:37] <magicfinger> i am trying to install on a usb hdd
[01:37] <eXistenZ> What is the option in gconf-editor for converting the address (path) bar to text?
[01:37] <gOldZahN> slacker_nl, i havnt tried any other programs yet so i cant say its no okaY
[01:37] <slacker_nl> ahh, ok
[01:38] <magicfinger> so can anyone please help
[01:38] <IdleOne> gOldZahN, try gaim it may be what yiou are looking for
[01:38] <magicfinger> should grub be installed on the same hdd as ubuntu
[01:38] <stefg> magicfinger: get the grub command line at boot time, enter 'find /boot/grub/stage1' it will return the number of the right partition.. then 'root (hd0,3)' for example, 'setup (hd0)' that's it
[01:38] <gOldZahN> IldeOne, ive tried it already but i wasnt amazed very well
[01:39] <IdleOne> gOldZahN, I believe there is also package called alicq in ubuntu repos
[01:39] <sqer> przy uruchamianiu mplayera wyskakuje mi blad "reguested audio codec family (afm=mp3lib) not avaliable (( what it this??))
[01:39] <magicfinger> how do i get the grub command at boot time
[01:40] <ikonia> press e to edit
[01:40] <stefg> pressd 'esc'
[01:40] <stefg> then 'e'
[01:40] <stefg> no... 'c'
[01:40] <magicfinger> hmmmmm
[01:40] <magicfinger> i really dont understand
[01:40] <IdleOne> !mp3 | sqer
[01:40] <ubotu> sqer: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:41] <stefg> then understand first, and *then* juggle with your partitions ;-)
[01:41] <magicfinger> i think ill just stick with xp
[01:41] <magicfinger> this sound complicated
[01:41] <stefg> maybe not a bad idea...
[01:42] <IdleOne> magicfinger, you have to be willing to spend alot of time re-learning
[01:42] <magicfinger> how can i learn if i cant install the software
[01:42] <IdleOne> !dualboot | magicfinger
[01:42] <ubotu> magicfinger: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[01:44] <magicfinger> does dual boot apply to two os on different hdd,s
[01:45] <stefg> different or the same hd... doesn't matter
[01:45] <J-_> Where would my hard drive be mounted/be called?
[01:45] <gOldZahN> which program to open .rpm?
[01:45] <sqer> hey boys i have little problem ( i can`t install game Need for speed Carbon in cedega emulator ) pc write : play2point error) :(
[01:45] <ComboKiller> cedega
[01:46] <J-_> !hda
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <J-_> hrm
[01:46] <stefg> sqer: You're paying for cedega-support, aren't you?
[01:46] <IdleOne> gOldZahN, ubuntu doesnt use rpm
[01:47] <gOldZahN> IdleOne, but i couldnt find any .deb fpr licq
[01:47] <slacker_nl> J-_: look in /etc/fstab
[01:47] <magicfinger> well what has dual boot got to do with error 21
[01:47] <ComboKiller> PIS PO MW LOL
[01:47] <IdleOne> gOldZahN, in terminal type sudoa pt-get install alicq
[01:47] <IdleOne> gOldZahN, in terminal type sudo apt-get install alicq
[01:47] <Liquid`Princess> :O
[01:47] <Liquid`Princess> It's an english server ?
[01:48] <J-_> slacker_nl: thanks
[01:48] <sqer> yes i pay
[01:48] <sqer> for cedega
[01:48] <slacker_nl> Liquid`Princess: english channel
[01:48] <Liquid`Princess> Okay ^_^
[01:48] <gOldZahN> IdleOne, Yeah i did but the window disappeared suddenly
[01:49] <sqer> i don`t have tel.
[01:49] <stefg> sqer, so ask the cedega support about your problem
[01:49] <Liquid`Princess> thx slacker_nl
[01:49] <naxxtor> hokay
[01:49] <sqer> for e-mail??
[01:49] <magicfinger> i had three drives for grub (hd0) hda (hd1) hdb and (hd2) sba
[01:50] <stefg> sqer: in case that sounded rude: I mean you'll get better support from a specialist, than in a channel of volunteers, who don't know cedega too much
[01:50] <Liquid`Princess> You haven't halfop & op here ?
[01:50] <sqer> o.k. thx for help
[01:50] <Liquid`Princess> :'( Sorry I don't speak english very well :D
[01:50] <magicfinger> so how do i make it work please
[01:51] <slacker_nl> Liquid`Princess: try !<language> to check if there is an ubuntu channel for your prefered language
[01:51] <slacker_nl> Liquid`Princess: like !nl
[01:51] <slacker_nl> !nl
[01:51] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[01:51] <Liquid`Princess> oO
[01:51] <IdleOne> gOldZahN, what do you mean the window disappeared?
[01:51] <ubuntu> i want to isntall ubuntu on my USB flash drive 4GB. it is locked and i cant make a partition. how can i remove that lock and make it accessible for partitioning? thanks
[01:52] <magicfinger> why is this called the official support channel if no one helps
[01:52] <gOldZahN> now ive tried to install licq with the program add/remove wizard but it said there would be a conflict with another installed software?!
[01:52] <IdleOne> magicfinger,
[01:52] <IdleOne> !patirnce
[01:52] <magicfinger> yes
[01:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patirnce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:52] <IdleOne> !patience
[01:52] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:52] <stefg> !fr | Liquid`Princess
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[01:53] <francis_Albert_l> hi
[01:53] <Liquid`Princess> Ah ^__^
[01:53] <qiv> hello, anyone using feisty?
[01:53] <Liquid`Princess> Thx :x
[01:53] <gOldZahN> IdleOne, now ive tried to install licq with the program add/remove wizard but it said there would be a conflict with another installed software?!
[01:53] <qiv> is it usable already?
[01:53] <firepol> !feisty qiv
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about feisty qiv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <Liquid`Princess> Goodbye :')
[01:53] <IdleOne> gOldZahN,  what software?
[01:53] <ubuntu> !partition
[01:53] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:54] <naxxtor> can anyone see a problem with Xinerama in this xorg.conf? http://pastebin.ca/295435
[01:54] <magicfinger> help please
[01:54] <francis_Albert_l> hi
[01:55] <naxxtor> i keep getting "Monitor 1 and 2 cannot be type NONE"
[01:55] <gOldZahN> IdleOne, i dont know it said i could solve this problem by using extended software or something like that
[01:55] <francis_Albert_l> how are you?
[01:55] <patrick_> hi evrybody!!!!
[01:55] <magicfinger> hi
[01:55] <IdleOne> magicfinger, you need to go and read that link ubotu  gave you earlier about dualboot that will probably help you alot
[01:55] <magicfinger> i have read it
[01:56] <naxxtor> any ideas? http://pastebin.ca/295435
[01:56] <gOldZahN> IdleOne, it said change to extended software-administration
[01:57] <magicfinger> has anyone else had the grub error 21
[01:57] <J-_> Do I have to run onky in root to see the percentage of space used in /?
[01:57] <J-_> Conky*
[01:57] <IdleOne> gOldZahN, you are trying to many things at once and not resolving any issues before jumping to the next. I suggest you delete/remove that rpm you tried install then sudo apt-get install alicq if you run into any errors stop read wait and ask for help
[01:58] <naxxtor> aggh, i hate it when people edit out their solutions on the forums....
[01:58] <iGadget> hi all
[01:58] <magicfinger> hi
[01:58] <naxxtor> i have the exact same problem as someone else and they edited their original post....
[01:58] <magicfinger> grub error 21, help please
[01:58] <gOldZahN> IdleOne, okay i see
[01:59] <Woody3444> I want to install Ubuntu on my USB 4GB device, how can i partition it? it is locked and i cant partition it. thanks
[01:59] <POVaddct> naxxtor: i cannot check right now, but could it be that the MonitorLayout option is in the wrong section?
[02:00] <POVaddct> naxxtor: also i find it strange to have two MonitorLayout lines
[02:00] <naxxtor> POVaddct: it's suppose3d to be in both of the Device sections right?
[02:00] <POVaddct> naxxtor: i dont know for sure
[02:00] <stefg> magicfinger, are you on a ubuntu live-CD now, or in windows?
[02:00] <magicfinger> windows
[02:00] <lipe_> I need some help to install Jdk1.5.0_10, please ...
[02:01] <naxxtor> POVaddct: the howto told me to duplicate the entire device section, so i guess that means two monitorlayout lines
[02:01] <slacker_nl> lipe_: its in the repos if not mistaken
[02:01] <naxxtor> all the otehrs seem to have 2
[02:01] <stefg> magicfinger, can't help you from there... boot up a Live-CD on the system and come back from Live-CD
[02:01] <firepol> lipe_ : personally i install java manually in /opt, then i modify some links around
[02:01] <magicfinger> ok thanks stef
[02:01] <gOldZahN> IdleOne, i always tried to enter the commands in the line you get by pressing alt+f2 but how can i open the clean terminal?
[02:01] <magicfinger> but how can i join the channel from live cd?
[02:01] <lipe_> firepol: how did u do that ??
[02:02] <lipe_> firepol: I just add lines in ~/.bash_profile
[02:02] <slacker_nl> lipe_: apt-cache search java | egrep -i "jdk|sdk"
[02:02] <IdleOne> gOldZahN, alt+f2 enter terminal in the box
[02:02] <_Adramelech_> magicfinger: using gaim
[02:02] <gOldZahN> IldeOne, Yeah but how can i open the terminal
[02:02] <magicfinger> what is gaim
[02:03] <stefg> !gaim
[02:03] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> how do you check the installed system memory on an Ubuntu 6.10 machine?
[02:03] <IdleOne> gOldZahN, that should open a terminal window for you
[02:03] <Stalwart> IndyGunFreak: free -m
[02:03] <firepol> lipe_ that could also be a solution
[02:03] <Woody3444> need help :)
[02:03] <stefg> IndyGunFreak: choose the memtest86 option at boot
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> ok, free -m worked also..
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> thanks.
[02:03] <gOldZahN> IldeOne, yes but i think then the terminal is just opened for this cmd....
[02:03] <lipe_> slacker_nl: oh nice, than i just install free java sdk ??
[02:04] <IdleOne> gOldZahN,  also go to Applications > Accesories > Terminal
[02:04] <lipe_> firepol: thx u, but i want to install using .bin ...
[02:04] <gOldZahN> IldeOne, ahh yeah thats what i wanted to know...i forgot :-[
[02:04] <slacker_nl> IndyGunFreak: I usually check it with top, you will get a particular line with memory and so forth
[02:04] <firepol> lipe_ in this case, you just run the bin and follow the instrucvtions, did u do that?
[02:04] <firepol> of course you have to install it as root. so e.g. sudo ./jdk.bin
[02:05] <lipe_> firepol: yes, but when i type javac, nothing happens ...
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> slacker_nl, right, this is the line i have  1011        962         48          0        135        492
[02:05] <robdeman> hey gang, is Ubuntu 6.06LTS dual-core / dual-cpu compatible now?
[02:05] <slacker_nl> IndyGunFreak: look for a line like this: Mem:    515788k total,   507184k used,     8604k free,     8328k buffers
[02:05] <firepol> lipe_ : ok you habe to add it in the path
[02:05] <_Adramelech_> !dualcore
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualcore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> slacker_nl, which is strange, cuz my total should be
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> 1024
[02:05] <_Adramelech_> !amp
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <_Adramelech_> !smp
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <robdeman> mmm
[02:06] <_Adramelech_> rodeman: i think it is
[02:06] <IndyGunFreak> slacker_nl, i was really more curious about another machines memory, i know mine has 1024, but this reports it as only having 1011
[02:06] <stefg> _Adramelech_: please put a /msg ubotu before your fishing attempts, so you see the results in your PM's and don't flood the channel
[02:06] <lipe_> firepol: I just added export JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_10 and PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH in ~/.bash_profile ... but nothing ...
[02:06] <nova> how do I create a folder in usr/folders?
[02:07] <robdeman> _Adramelech_ its kind of scary, Ubuntu MIGHT not support dual CPU's... ?
[02:07] <firepol> lipe_ you have to re-login
[02:07] <lipe_> nova: mkdir ...
[02:07] <lipe_> nova: mkdir /usr/folders
[02:07] <nova> rgr
[02:07] <slacker_nl> lipe_: . .bash_profile
[02:07] <slacker_nl> lipe_: on the command line
[02:07] <lipe_> firepol: ohh :p. ok
[02:07] <POVaddct> naxxtor: i checked the xinerama config of my notebook (its still xfree 4.3.0, but i think it will work). i have no monitorlayout option anywhere.
[02:07] <lipe_> slacker_ln: ohhh
[02:07] <slacker_nl> then hit env | egrep -i "PATH|JAVA"
[02:07] <slacker_nl> lipe ^^
[02:07] <firepol> lipe_ or: add it in .bashrc
[02:07] <gOldZahN> IdleOne, i think the installationprocess has been finished. but now there is no way to start it by going to applycations->internet
[02:08] <lipe_> firepol: ok
[02:08] <lipe_> slacker_nl: ok
[02:08] <slacker_nl> firepol: I would then say in the .basrc to source .bash_profile
[02:08] <naxxtor> POVaddct: I tried commentin the lines out and it complained that it needed them
[02:08] <_Adramelech_> rodeman: it supports dual cpus
[02:08] <firepol> slacker_nl, usually its the opposite..
[02:09] <IdleOne> gOldZahN, yes I see that hold on a sec looking for it
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> stefg, what if memtest86 isn't one of my boot options?
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> i think it is with the live CD
[02:09] <POVaddct> naxxtor: maybe the i810 driver behaves different. in my notebook i have a sis gfx card so i use the sis driver.
[02:09] <gOldZahN> IldeOne, dont hurry^^
[02:09] <slacker_nl> firepol: don't know, just started playing around with bash
[02:09] <lipe_> firepol: just it ???
[02:09] <firepol> lipe_ relogin or: source ~/.bash_profile ;)
[02:10] <lipe_> firepol: ok, lets try ...
[02:10] <nova> ok now how do I make a txt file
[02:10] <nova> ?
[02:10] <firepol> lipe_ try to type: source ~/.bash_profile, it should read the new variables
[02:10] <stefg> IndyGunFreak: then you don't have it ... :-) but never mind, it's just a memory test. i misunderstood your question: 'checking ram' is _testing_ for me, not finding the 'amount of free ram'
[02:10] <_Adramelech_> nova: using gedit
[02:10] <slacker_nl> nova: what's your favorite editor?
[02:10] <nova> ok
[02:10] <nova> dont have one on linux
[02:10] <lipe_> firepol ohhh now its working !! :D thx u very much .!!!
[02:10] <firepol> lipe_ ;)
[02:11] <lipe_> firepol: GOD bless u !! bye bye
[02:11] <POVaddct> nova: you have a editor on linux. definitely.
[02:11] <firepol> thanks and happy coding
[02:11] <slacker_nl> POVaddct: think he ws talking about his favorite editor
[02:11] <POVaddct> slacker_nl: ah okay
[02:12] <francis_Albert_l> nova,  but, have a the windows?
[02:12] <IdleOne> gOldZahN, if you go to the add/remove wizzard and check the Show commercial applications box. then search for Licq it will give you the option to install Licq and will show up in Apllications > Internet
[02:12] <firepol> nova: right click on the desktop, and "create file": name it as file.txt ;)
[02:12] <magicfinger> stef is gaim preinstalled on live cd
[02:12] <gOldZahN> IldeOne, thx i will try
[02:12] <IdleOne> gOldZahN,  you may also want to sudo apt-get remove alicq
[02:12] <yoko> witam czy jest tu kto kto pomoe mi z nvidia settings na ubu 6.12 ee ?
[02:12] <nova> how do I move a file from desktop to a restricted area
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> firepol, thats what i was gonna suggest, but txt files automatically open in Opera for some reason..lol, so I had to change the file association with .txt
[02:13] <_Adramelech_> magicfinger: yes
[02:13] <ikonia> nova: thats just basic permissions
[02:13] <slacker_nl> yoko: english please
[02:13] <magicfinger> thanks do you need to sign up
[02:13] <firepol> Indy: opera? r we talking about linux or winzoz?
[02:13] <yoko> ??
[02:13] <stefg> magicfinger: yes... the whole idea of the Desktop CD is to enable you to come here for support, if you're in trouble
[02:13] <nova> well it wont let me save in the right folder no access
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> firephoto, linux
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> Ubuntu Edgy
[02:13] <firepol> opera on linux??? ehm... quite strange
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> firepol, no, i always install it.
[02:14] <POVaddct> firepol: of course there is opera for linux
[02:14] <stefg> opera is developed on linux... cough,cough....
[02:14] <slacker_nl> !sudo | nova
[02:14] <ubotu> nova: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:14] <magicfinger> ok ill delete partition then boot up live cd and come back for help to reinstall
[02:14] <magicfinger> brb
[02:14] <hhanne> hello, i've got some subdomains for my apache2. but when i type in a subdomain which is not configured, I'll be redirected to a subdomain which I don't want to go to.
[02:14] <hhanne> how can i change that?
[02:14] <furryballs> firepol: What's strange about that? The opera website will even show links to linux opera downloads.
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> firepol, main reason, Opera allows you to save ".mht" files, Firefox does not.  More or less, they are a snapshot of a website.  If I find a website with extremely useful info, I save it as an Mht to file with my backups
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> then in the event o fa crash, etc.
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> all i have to do is open the mht, to remember what i did to configure something iw as having trouble with
[02:15] <slacker_nl> hhanne: apache uses the first vhost it comes across
[02:15] <firepol> Mht, what's that?
[02:15] <slacker_nl> if its not defined
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> its an archive of a website.
[02:15] <hhanne> slacker_nl, how can I change that, to a default domain or subdomain?
[02:15] <firepol> somezhing like a httrack mirror?
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> never heard of httrack mirror, i don't know.
[02:16] <slacker_nl> hhanne: just use a vhost which you want to have as the default and set it as the first vhost in the apache conf
[02:16] <firepol> never heard of mht as well ;)
[02:16] <insight> I can't get updates dor synoptics
[02:16] <Exposure`> anyone want to help me troubleshoot wpa_supplicant?
[02:16] <slacker_nl> Exposure`: hit me
[02:16] <firepol> anyway, thanks for the info, ill try that one day or another just to see how it works
[02:16] <Exposure`> ioctl[IPW_IOCTL_WPA_SUPPLICANT] : Operation not supported
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> yeah, but it works for me, for instance, i've saved the sites on how to configure my TV card, my sound card, video card, etc.
[02:16] <hhanne> hmm... but I have the subdomains and domains in the vhost.d, how can I tell apache2 to first read the default?
[02:16] <insight> any help with synoptics
[02:17] <IdleOne> gOldZahN, when you get Licq installed you can add me 359052529
[02:17] <stefg> !apt
[02:17] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:17] <_Adramelech_> insight: what error do you get?
[02:17] <slacker_nl> Exposure`: do you run wpa_supplicant as root?
[02:17] <stefg> !synaptic | insight
[02:17] <ubotu> insight: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[02:17] <insight> one sec
[02:17] <Exposure`> slacker_nl, wpa_supplicant -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dipw -w -dd
[02:17] <Exposure`> slacker_nl, yes, as root
[02:17] <insight> something about net connection
[02:17] <hhanne> slacker_nl,  hmm... but I have the subdomains and domains in the vhost.d, how can I tell apache2 to first read the default?
[02:18] <TC`laptop> i am having trouble with my wlan card> ath0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[02:18] <slacker_nl> hhanne: wait one sec
[02:18] <POVaddct> Exposure`: try -Dwext instead of -Dipw
[02:18] <insight> Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[02:18] <stefg> !wifi | TC`laptop
[02:18] <ubotu> TC`laptop: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:18] <Exposure`> POVaddct, seems to work, thanks
[02:19] <insight> it was doing fine and then
[02:19] <POVaddct> Exposure`: the newer ipw drivers seem to like wext driver better
[02:19] <insight> for no reason it wont update
[02:19] <Exposure`> POVaddct, why doesn't it work with ipw?
[02:19] <Exposure`> ok
[02:19] <slacker_nl> hhanne: I don't use vhost.d
[02:19] <stefg> insight: did you change the hostname f your box?
[02:19] <slacker_nl> but make sure the default has a ame of 000-default or something similar to that
[02:19] <insight> i read about the updates
[02:20] <insight> no
[02:20] <slacker_nl> hhanne: it will read the files in the correct order then
[02:20] <hhanne> slacker_nl, so you don't know a solution? maybe I should just setup the default domain in the apache.conf directly
[02:20] <insight> not to my knowledge
[02:20] <hhanne> slacker_nl, ah, ok
[02:20] <slacker_nl> hhanne: or change the filename of your default vhost to 000-default-vhost
[02:20] <stefg> insight: did you install any firewall? firestarter/guarddog?
[02:20] <J-_> I don't understand why conky isn't recognizing /
[02:20] <slacker_nl> it shouls work afaik
[02:20] <hhanne> slacker_nl, sorry. I didn't see the answer at first. thx
[02:20] <gOldZahN> IdleOne, it doesnt work....i cant find you
[02:21] <insight> No
[02:21] <slacker_nl> hhanne: np dude :)
[02:21] <IdleOne> gOldZahN, what is your ID?
[02:21] <gOldZahN> 300455201
[02:21] <stefg> insight: ok, so please pate the output of /etc/network/interfaces to the pastebin-url seen in /topic
[02:22] <IdleOne> gOldZahN, says you are offline
[02:22] <gOldZahN> IdleOne, gee i take gaim-.-
[02:23] <arose> Has anyone else encountered linux-image-2.6.15-27-386 failing to boot with GRUB error 18?
[02:23] <gOldZahN> try it again.....i will be back in 10 min
[02:23] <stefg> arose: that's a bios/LBA problem, not a kernel one
[02:24] <arose> stefg, except that linux-image-2.6.15-26-386 boots just fine
[02:24] <Benk20z3> Hello, I just bought a Zune and when I hook it up with USB it will charge but i can not access it. I would like to see what kind of files are stored on it but I can't get in to it. any ideas on how to see on it??
[02:25] <stefg> arose: ??? grub error 18 Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS
[02:25] <arose> yes
[02:25] <magicfingers11> magicfinger is back
[02:25] <magicfingers11> stef are you there
[02:26] <arose> in fact all kernels befre 27 worked wihout a glitch
[02:26] <arose> before*
[02:26] <stefg> arose: that's a strange bug... but to tell the truth i've given up the ubuntu-stock-kernels a while ago... too much trouble, obviously. But might be worth a bug-report/research on Launchpad
[02:27] <arose> stefg, I reported it a while ago, was rejected as a grub problem... haven't heard anything from the official channels since
[02:28] <stefg> arose... i know the blues... that
[02:28] <stefg> 's why i decided to kick the stock-kernels
[02:29] <ariccs> Hello all
[02:29] <arose> unfortunatly this is my work machine, I
[02:29] <magicfingers11> stefg  can you help please
[02:29] <arose> I'd rather not screw around with it as long as it works
[02:29] <stefg> magicfingers11: are you the grub error 21 person?
[02:29] <insight> stefg ok I posted it
[02:29] <FaithX> Hey guys, I am trying to get my bluetooth phone to pair with edgy and it is a no go... I'm hunting the web and the doesn't seem to be a difinitive answer... any ideas that might help?
[02:29] <Benk20z3> anybody know how I can make linux look at a mp3 player I have hooked up USB? It is a M$ zune. I would like to be able to look at the files stored on it.
[02:29] <magicfingers11> yes stef
[02:29] <TC`laptop>         Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device e913
[02:29] <TC`laptop>         Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 169
[02:29] <TC`laptop>         Memory at d8000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] 
[02:29] <TC`laptop>         Capabilities: <access denied>
[02:30] <magicfingers11> gaim is much better than mirc
[02:30] <exs> anyone using windows xp under vmware?.. I'm using it now but I can't get windows xp to get internet access.
[02:30] <IdleOne> xchat is much better then gaim
[02:30] <J-_> irssi is much better than gaim =P
[02:30] <stefg> magicfingers11: so get a terminal and enter 'sudo -s' in there. the prompt should change to 'root@ubuntu'
[02:31] <narvik86> "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Dec 29 15:28:00 2006" what should i do?
[02:31] <insight> stefg I changed from the dappers to the edgy in the resources list like the updates suggested
[02:31] <magicfingers11> stef do i need to install ubuntu first
[02:31] <TC`laptop> i got this message from lspci about my wfi card (mini pci):   Memory at d8000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]        What does it mean? how i can fix it?
[02:31] <TC`laptop> wifi*
[02:31] <insight> I missed 2 of them could that be a problem?
[02:31] <insight> Should I change them back to Dapper
[02:32] <stefg> magicfingers11: Is there no ubuntu-install on the disk now?
[02:32] <FaithX> TC`laptop: what does lspci show you about it to start with
[02:32] <magicfingers11> no stef
[02:33] <FaithX> TC`laptop: what version of ubuntu?
[02:33] <stefg> magicfingers11: so no need to troubleshoot... just install
[02:33] <TC`laptop> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. Unknown device 001c (rev 01)
[02:33] <TC`laptop>         Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device e913
[02:33] <TC`laptop>         Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 169
[02:33] <TC`laptop>         Memory at d8000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] 
[02:33] <TC`laptop>         Capabilities: <access denied>
[02:33] <magicfingers11> ok stef
[02:33] <IdleOne> magicfingers11, if you want stefg to see what you are saying to them you need to make sure youenter theyre entire name :) ( it highlights in red for them so they can see it clearly )
[02:33] <stefg> !paste | TC`laptop
[02:33] <ubotu> TC`laptop: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:33] <J-_> I don't understand conky.. not sure why it's not mounting /... it says it's 92% fill and the bar looks like it's 3-4% full
[02:34] <TC`laptop> edgy 6.10
[02:34] <IdleOne> arose, a core team leader :)
[02:34] <insight> I can't be sure your getting my posts
[02:34] <fmachado> exs, http://www.google.com/search?q=vmware+network+configuration
[02:34] <stefg> arose: ubuntu is suffering from severe scaling problems atm... further discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic, if wanted
[02:35] <magicfingers11> stef which option should i choose (erase entire disk, use largest continuos space or manual edit partition)
[02:35] <FaithX> TC`laptop: Try modprobe ath_pci
[02:38] <naxxtor> wow i really have xorg problems
[02:38] <vleon> i have a strange problem
[02:38] <ThomasZ> Hm cdwriter (hdc) is not found on edgy; any ideas on how to get it recognized?
[02:38] <Kesman> hi
[02:38] <TC`laptop> nothing :/
[02:38] <vleon> when i try to run some application in 1025/768 resolution they crash
[02:38] <stefg> magicfingers11: let me see your disk, as it is now... type 'sudo fdisk -l' to a term and paste the result to pastebin
[02:38] <TC`laptop> i got a barebone pc
[02:38] <Kesman> how do I change the "java -version" command to show 1.5.0_10 instead of  1.5.0_08-b03?
[02:38] <insight> stefg I changed the sources list to edgy from dapper after I coulndt get updates
[02:38] <vleon> i tryed alien arena 2007, unreal tournament 1999 GOTY (in wine)
[02:38] <TC`laptop> but my mini pci card is listed that it works with ubuntu
[02:38] <FaithX> I used to run 640 res divx files on XFree and can only run 454 res on xorg
[02:38] <FaithX> TC`laptop: iwconfig
[02:38] <stefg> insight: prolly your sources.list is borked... get a fresh one at !easysource
[02:38] <fmachado> Kesman, did you upgrade?
[02:38] <naxxtor> vleon: why play UT99 in wine? it's easily instaled native
[02:38] <Kesman> fmachado: how?
[02:38] <stefg> !easysource | insight
[02:38] <ubotu> insight: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
 I changed the sources list to edgy from dapper after I coul
[02:38] <insight> dt get updates
[02:38] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Hi all! Anyone here who can help me with my ATI X800XT? Installed the drivers from their homepage, then ran aticonfig and rebooted... then the screen whent black...
 i have the windows version
[02:38] <TC`laptop> sudo iwconfig >  no wireless extensions, on all
[02:38] <Kesman> fmachado: I've installed JRE 1.5.0_10 into /usr/java, but I don't know how to update it
[02:38] <naxxtor> vleon: doesn't matter
[02:38] <vleon> what do you mean?
[02:38] <insight> Ok
[02:38] <naxxtor> i have the windows version too and i've installed it
[02:38] <FaithX> UbuntuN00B_HBG: Your res is too high for the screen probably
[02:38] <naxxtor> all you need is the right runscript
[02:38] <stefg> insight: get a new sources.list and don't forget to sudo apt-get update after
[02:38] <fmachado> Kesman, manually or using apt?
[02:39] <vleon> FaithX no my screen is okay
[02:39] <vleon> it can hold 1600X800 but the icons will be small (17 inch screen)
[02:39] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> FaithX: I got a 'ATI Control' in one of my menus, but it wont run...
[02:39] <Kesman> both, but I think apt-version is the one I'm using
[02:39] <Kesman> fmachado ^
[02:39] <TC`laptop> faithx my hardware suppose to run with madwifi drivers :|
[02:40] <vleon> anyway i dont really need scripts it runs fine under wine
[02:40] <vleon> and the problem is not with the game
[02:40] <magicfingers11> http://pastebin.com/847147
[02:40] <stefg> k
[02:40] <vleon> uts with ubuntu since aliean arena 2007 for linux crashed the same way
[02:40] <fmachado> Kesman, did you install uging apt-get / synaptic / adept / ... ?
[02:40] <FaithX> TC`laptop: problem is your device id is not listed in the software
[02:40] <Kesman> fmachado: I did install with apt
[02:40] <magicfingers11> i wan to install it on the 80gig drive
[02:41] <Kesman> fmachado: but the version in the repos is not the latest
[02:41] <TC`laptop> and how to solve it :| > install just win?
[02:41] <fmachado> Kesman, and then you downloaded JSDK _10 from sun website?
[02:41] <TC`laptop> that is worse designion
[02:41] <FaithX> TC`laptop: you can do that if you like
[02:42] <stefg> magicfingers11: 2 disks... that's good :-) where do you want to have your ubuntu installed?
[02:42] <magicfingers11> 3 disks
[02:42] <FaithX> You should google your problem
[02:42] <Kesman> fmachado: nevermind, there's a howto on the forum
[02:42] <magicfingers11> on the 80 gig disk
[02:42] <magicfingers11> its an usb hdd
[02:43] <stefg> magicfingers11: is that dispensible ? any data on it, or can you just flatten that 80GB drive?
[02:43] <FaithX> It's not that big a deal really... get source ... hack in a new device id recompile driver and it is done
[02:43] <TC`laptop> but is there somehow other designion?
[02:43] <magicfingers11> no its empty
[02:44] <naxxtor> that's better
[02:44] <naxxtor> right
[02:44] <TC`laptop> FaithX you see that i'm like know what to do? :|
[02:44] <vleon> so no one knows whats my problem?
[02:44] <naxxtor> someone back me up here: http://pastebin.ca/295435 does this look correct to you?
[02:44] <stefg> magicfingers11: brilliant... then let the installer do his automatic job on sda1... but beware: grub gets installed to hda, that means you can't remove the 80 GB drive or you'll get grub errors :-)
[02:45] <magicfingers11> thanks, but where should i install grub
[02:45] <stefg> magicfingers11: the instzaller will deal with that
[02:45] <J-_> Where would the temperature of my hard drives be stored? Do all hard drives have temp censors?
[02:46] <copperbottom> hi. i'm new to ubuntu and i have problem with installing NVIDIA driver
[02:46] <Infeliz> cool
[02:46] <copperbottom> can someone help me?
[02:46] <magicfingers11> but last time it installed it on (hd0) which is my 250gb drive (hda)
[02:46] <insight> where do I find the source list file?
[02:46] <Infeliz> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep EE
[02:47] <magicfingers11> i think thats why i got the error message
[02:47] <naxxtor> people in #xorg couldn't care less
[02:47] <Infeliz> try that
[02:47] <saxin> ehm.. /etc/apt/sources.list
where do I find the source list file?
[02:47] <dbe> Why do I get: Failed to load output plugin "jackd". Trying defaults.    when I run: alsaplayer -o jackd wekilltheworld.ogg   I have jackd installed.
[02:47] <naxxtor> preemptive strike
[02:47] <stefg> copperbottom: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable  ... that's all
[02:47] <insight> thanks
[02:47] <dbe> alsaplayer -o jack*
[02:49] <copperbottom> stefg: i've installed nvidia-glx through packet manager and when i'm trying to enebale driver i get this: Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[02:49] <copperbottom> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[02:49] <stefg> insight: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:49] <stefg> copperbottom: you forgot the restricted-modules-package for your kernel
[02:49] <magicfingers11> how do i find out which hard drive ubuntu recognises as (hd0)
[02:50] <stefg> magicfingers11: a fuuny question, because the answer is already in it ...
 right thanks do I just paste the generated source list over my old list and there will be no problem?
[02:51] <dbe> Anyone?
[02:51] <stefg> insight: backups are never a bad idea
[02:52] <FaithX> TC`laptop: you are not trying very hard to solve your own problem... just making noise in the channel... 5 minutes in google and the answer... http://madwifi.org/changeset_static/1711.html   Please _try_ to help yourself a bit more in the future.
[02:52] <walah> hello
[02:52] <siv0x> Anyone familiar with making steam and steam games work on ubuntu?
[02:52] <stefg> !games
[02:52] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[02:52] <magicfingers11> so what now stef
[02:52] <tim167> what program can I use to make a zipfile that can only be opened with a password ?
[02:52] <walah> anybody have experience install ubuntu on ibook clamshell?
[02:53] <stefg> magicfingers11: just let the installer auto-partiton sda and install ubuntu to it
[02:53] <FaithX> anyone got a bt phone pairing with edgy?
[02:53] <dbe> tim167: Use GPG instead to encrypt a file and the compress it.
[02:53] <copperbottom> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic is installed
[02:53] <dbe> tim167: The other way is not secure for 5 cent.
[02:53] <walah> my airport isn't work
[02:54] <tim167> dbe: can it be opened by a windows or mac user then ?
[02:54] <magicfingers11> but i dont want to install grub on my windows xp hdd
[02:54] <mrstocks_> on my laptop, with PCM vol / 100% the its still so low ...
[02:54] <exs> Does anyone know how (or if it's even possible) to be able to see my ext3 partition (ubuntu) under windows xp using vmware?... I've got windows xp running quite simply, but I'd like to be able to access my ubuntu personal files in there.
[02:54] <kraut> how do i get the partition name of an UUID?
[02:54] <stefg> magicfingers11: then you'd need aboot-floppy for ubuzntu
[02:54] <mrstocks_> exs there are partition progs to get into them
[02:54] <magicfingers11> i dont understand stef
[02:54] <iGadget> re
[02:55] <exs> mrstocks_:  yeah?.. what programs for example so I can look them? up
[02:55] <naxxtor> i don't understand Xorg
[02:55] <ken> I need some firefox help!
[02:55] <stefg> magicfingers11: the bios can only boot from the first hd... if you install grub somewhere else it might be ibstalled, but is never actually booted
[02:55] <FaithX> exs samba on the host or use qemu
[02:55] <magicfingers11> ok i see
[02:56] <copperbottom> ken, what's up?
[02:56] <Lunar_Lamp> I have a deb file - how do I get the sourcecode from it?
[02:56] <fmachado> exs, start VMWare. VM -> Settings -> Options -> Shared Folder
[02:56] <naxxtor> apt-get source packagemane
[02:56] <naxxtor> *packagename
[02:56] <fmachado> exs, now you can share host directories with guest OS
[02:57] <exs> fmachado:  wow, thanks!
[02:57] <Lunar_Lamp> naxxtor, that wasn't what I wanted, but I've found "dpkg -x *.deb DIR" now :-)
[02:57] <SubMOA> hello, I was on here yesterday and was told to edit my xorg.conf file.  Well, I edited it and got the go-ahead from two people but it still crashed my X :O( any help
[02:57] <SubMOA> BTW, that wasn't supposed to sound accusatory!! *blush*
[02:57] <magicfingers11> its instaling now stef
[02:58] <ken> When one opens a new tab in firefox, one expects a clean URL bar, with the focus on the URL, but when i open a new tab, the URL bar is already filled with the web address of my previous tab, and moreover the cursor blinks on the URL bar so i have to backspace that whole address, and type in my new address. Whereas actually when one opens a new tab, one should see a clean url bar, so that one can start typing the new web addressright away. How do i change this behav
[02:58] <ken> copperbottom: please see my above post
[02:59] <[BTF] Chm0d> LOL ken loves third person
 that didn't work either
[02:59] <ken> SubMOA: Is x up and running now?
[02:59] <insight> The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems
[02:59] <insight> connect (111 Connection refused)
[02:59] <ken> [BTF] Chm0d: Any help would be much appreciated :)
[02:59] <stefg> magicfingers11: and restoring you win- Master Boor record all it takes is booting the win-install CD to the rescue conole and type 'fixmbr' in the windows command shell..
[02:59] <SubMOA> ken, yes
[03:00] <SubMOA> i delete the part i added
[03:00] <nova> how do I install a .rar file?? from the desktop
[03:00] <ken> If Any firefox users are lurking around here please help me out! :)
[03:00] <SubMOA> i can pastebin what i added (and subsequently deleted)
[03:00] <magicfingers11> yes thanks stef thats what i had to do last time
[03:00] <SubMOA> go ahead ken, I use firefox
[03:00] <mrstocks_> ken.... you know you can ctrl l and backspace
[03:00] <SubMOA> no guarantees, though
[03:00] <ken> SubMOA: what is the you want to achieve
[03:00] <Rydekull> ken: dunno, but about:config can be a good start
[03:00] <nova> how do I install a .rar file?? from the desktop
[03:01] <[BTF] Chm0d> hey ken open up firefox and go to edit/preferences/tabs
[03:01] <stefg> !rar
[03:01] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:01] <Lunar_Lamp> ken, when I open a new tab in FF2.0 with "ctrl+t" I get the behaviour you want.
[03:01] <ken> SubMOA: I made the post above, so i dont want to spam the channel, please scroll a little bit up and find a long post from ken :)
[03:01] <ken> Lunar_Lamp: But i don't any ideas what should do to change this?
[03:01] <tuna-fish-> dumb question: is there a terminal application that lets you set the desired size of the terminal screen, and then when resizing it streches the font instead of resizing the terminal?
[03:01] <stefg> insight: still the can't connect to localhost-error?
[03:02] <mrstocks_> ken backup ur book marks and remove the config files
[03:02] <SubMOA> ken, I got Beryl up and running, but, at one point in time it made my CPU run at 100% indefinitely, so I came here.  Anyway, I figured out the problem (I think) and although it didn't have anything to do with my xorg.conf file, someone said it wasn't complete so I added what I found on the ubuntu beryl article.  I had some people check it and they said it looked good.  Then restarted my comp and it wouldn't load
 still can't connect
[03:02] <ken> mrstocks_: Good idea! but still what i am asking is unaswered, though yours is a excellent alternative
[03:02] <SubMOA> so i nano'd it and deleted what i had added and sha-bam it works
[03:02] <insight> connect (111 Connection refused)
[03:02] <stefg> insight: paste me your /etc/network/interfaces
[03:02] <stefg> to pastebin
[03:03] <[BTF] Chm0d> ken did you read my post ^
[03:03] <SubMOA> ken, have you tried Ctrl+T
[03:03] <ken> [BTF] Chm0d: Yes sir!, i am there
[03:03] <ken> SubMOA: Thats what i use by defualt
 I did . can you check to make sure you have it?
[03:03] <[BTF] Chm0d> what is checked off ken?
[03:03] <copperbottom> ken: there is nothing to change in tabs settings. your firefox behave really strange
[03:03] <SubMOA> ken, hmm
[03:03] <stefg> insight: i need the link in hre :-)
[03:04] <SubMOA> ken, is it updated, etc.
[03:04] <insight> I don't understand
[03:04] <[BTF] Chm0d> i have a new tab checked and the first two boxes checked
[03:04] <insight> I clicked on the  past.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:05] <FaithX> TC`laptop: Note! To get the latest BlueZ packages, you can add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list:
[03:05] <FaithX> deb http://bluez.sourceforge.net/download/debian/ ./
[03:05] <ken> [BTF] Chm0d: copperbottom: I use Tab MIx Plus, extension in Firefox, and i have used it since ages, and it controls my tab behaviour but never before have i experienced this annoyance
[03:05] <stefg> insight: when you pasted it, you got a number ... paste the url from your browser in here, otherwise i can't see anything
[03:06] <ken> [BTF] Chm0d: Same for me (checking options)
[03:06] <[BTF] Chm0d> ive never used that extension so that would be new to me
[03:06] <SubMOA> ken, not sure what i'm talking about here... maybe emacs would work for you?
[03:06] <ken> SubMOA: I too am not sure what to answer to you :0
[03:06] <SubMOA> ken, I just read something about it wiping all shortcuts for firefox (and gnome, fyi) so yuo can create youur own
[03:07] <TC`laptop> FaithX i'm green on compiling
[03:07] <insight> Now I cant find that damn window
[03:07] <insight> I am geting pissed
[03:07] <copperbottom> stefg: restricted modules are installed. any other idea why driver doesnt wont to load?
[03:07] <SubMOA> ken, I'm thinking a reinstall
[03:07] <stefg> insight: that's just the culture-shock :-)
[03:07] <SubMOA> !beryl
[03:07] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:08] <stefg> copperbottom: depmod -ae ?
[03:08] <stefg> copperbottom: depmod -ae ?
[03:08] <ken> SubMOA: I dont use beryl/AIGLX/Compiz for the simple reason that their site itself proclaims that it is beta and unstable software that is going to crash your system, moreover i dont think it worthwile to devout my precious CPU cycles to stupid Eye-candy. And moreover using unstable software as a interface for other software to run, is not a good idea by any standards :)
[03:08] <ken> mrstocks_: Which config files are you talking about?
[03:08] <stefg> copperbottom: lets try if the module is loadaple by sudo modprobe nvidia
[03:08] <tc75> hi, do you guys have the ~"new gdm connection (w/ or w/o xnest)" in their default menus? (launches gdmflexiserver)
[03:09] <SubMOA> ken, i think all those things are pluses! (No, I don't, I just want to sound contradictory.  Hey, I'm 20, I have to make my OS appealing!)
[03:09] <tc75> i used to have it but disappeared on my new xubuntu setup
[03:09] <SubMOA> :O)
[03:09] <magicfingers11> ok stef time to reboot
[03:09] <copperbottom> ken: i tried Tab Mix Plus and discarted it. Uses too much mem. And FF 2.0 was improved in tabs
[03:09] <ken> SubMOA: I am little /not-interested in EMACS/VI, they simply scare me away :)
[03:09] <insight> Ok I reposted the info but now how do I give you the link?
[03:09] <magicfingers11> brb
[03:10] <kane77> how do I use crontab -e ?
[03:10] <copperbottom> stefg: FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/modules.dep.temp for writing: Permission denied
[03:10] <SubMOA> ken, ehhhhh
[03:10] <SubMOA> reinstall?
[03:10] <stefg> copperbottom: sudo depmod -ae
[03:10] <androxxl> hello can someone help me with apt-get update I got this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39319/
[03:10] <ken> SubMOA: You are talking about re-install of your entire OS?
[03:11] <SubMOA> ken, no, I mean reinstall firefox for you
[03:11] <maxy> kane77: that's probably the vi editor you're fighting with :)
[03:11] <SubMOA> not sure what else to do, sorry.
[03:11] <copperbottom> stefg: no output in console
[03:11] <SubMOA> <[03:11] <ken> SubMOA: ok :) though i wouldn;t like to entertain such a idea :)
 I reposted the information but how do I get you the link
[03:11] <maxy> kane77: either learn vi, or set $EDITOR, or don't use crontab -e (use crontab my_crontab instead)
[03:11] <stefg> copperbottom: that means success. sudo modprobe nvidia
[03:11] <SubMOA> well, since i deleted that section, I suppose everything is working fine.  Sorry I can't help you more, ken, I'm pretty darn new to this whole thing, though.
[03:11] <kane77> maxy: .. nah I think its joe... but what is a syntax to write into?
[03:12] <SubMOA> gotta run though.  Good luck!
[03:12] <copperbottom> ken: try do disable Tab MIx Plus and see what happen
[03:12] <maxy> Kanafani: ah ok.
[03:12] <ken> SubMOA: ok
[03:12] <johan_> i have no sound on my newly installed ubuntu, i fiddled with alsamixer to no avail and alsaconf doesnt work
[03:12] <ken> copperbottom: good idea :)
[03:12] <tc75> hi, do you guys have the ~"new gdm connection (w/ or w/o xnest)" in your default menus? (launches gdmflexiserver)
[03:12] <maxy> # m h dom mon dow command
[03:12] <maxy> */30 * * * * /home/martin/bin/harddiskparanoia
[03:12] <kane77> maxy I need to set program to run every 15 minutes...
[03:13] <stefg> insight: by looking at the addressbar of your browser... copy the link there, paste it in here
[03:13] <copperbottom> stefg: Not loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:13] <trust> svip O_O
[03:13] <maxy> kane77: use */15 for that instead of */30 above
[03:13] <svip> trust O_O
as I thought yet another Hang up
[03:13] <insight> I can't display the address bar for whatever reason
 this is really getting aggrevating
[03:14] <stefg> copperbottom: oh, i see... either you forgot sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, or it failed... gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... get the line with 'nv' in the driver section and make it nvidia
[03:14] <maxy> kane77: read "man 5 crontab" for details
[03:14] <kane77> maxy, thanx...
[03:15] <magicfingers11> stef i got error 21 again
[03:16] <stefg> magicfingers11: after i looked at your harddisk-conf i'll assume that grub can't see the sda at boottime...
[03:16] <ken> Firefox users i need help!
[03:16] <daedra> ken: try #firefox
[03:16] <ken> daedra: Good idea :)
[03:16] <stefg> magicfingers11: so grub points in the vacuum which is filled only later with sda
[03:17] <copperbottom> stefg: done. reboot now?
 I hope this works  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39320/
[03:17] <magicfingers11> how can i fix it then stef
[03:17] <stefg> copperbottom: THIS IS LINUX... sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39320/ I hope this works
[03:18] <stefg> insight: yup, that worked, and it looks good
[03:18] <IdleOne> where would the config files be for webboard?
[03:18] <insight> so now what
[03:19] <insight> a complete reinstall?
[03:19] <ken> daedra: The #firefox channel is fast asleep :)
[03:19] <Terminus> ken: irc.mozilla.org/#firefox =)
[03:19] <faked> hi all
[03:19] <stefg> insight: no... go to a terminal and 'sudo apt-get update', then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' first..
[03:20] <xaaax> hey! I screwed up my ubuntu instalation when i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Now i can't see anything... It's all flicker. How can I enter text mode and change it?
[03:20] <faked> how can I deactivate bluetooth at the bootprompt on ubuntu-live-cds?
[03:21] <magicfingers11> stef how do i fix the error then please
[03:21] <ken> xaaax: Press ctr-alt-f1, logic with your username/password, and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and go with the default driver like VESA, and the defualt settings to get your GUI back
[03:22] <ken> Terminus: That might help, thank you :)
[03:22] <theloner> onko ketn nimaailman asiantuntijaa paikalla virmidin luomiseen kubuntussa?
[03:22] <stefg> magicfingers11: your bios doesn't allow an ubuntu installtion to sda... take one of the /h/ da's
[03:22] <txoof> I've got cups installed and it works great.  I can't access any of the admin pages, howerver.  In firefox it prompts me for a username and password.  Where do I set this?  I've scoured the docs and can't find the answer anywhere!
[03:22] <CoRnJuLiOx> ok, i've got two sound cards (one onboard, one SB Live! card), and the apps seem to be switching between the two. XMMS plays songs through the SB, while Wine and Totem Movie Player play songs through the onboard sound. Is there any way i can get it to play through one card only? i've tried the mixer settings, but it doesn't seem to have much effect
[03:22] <xaaax> ken thanks
[03:23] <CoRnJuLiOx> no effect at all actually
[03:23] <ken> xaaax: Good luck!
[03:23] <magicfingers11> ok thanks for your help
[03:23] <ROBOd> hello guys
[03:23] <insight>  Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open
[03:23] <ROBOd> i have ubuntu edgy and two extern usb2 HDDs
[03:23] <francis_Albert_l> anybordy , here talk me?
[03:24] <ken> xaaax: After you come to end of the long configureation process of xorg.conf. simply type "startx" in the text-mode and everything will be back.
[03:24] <ROBOd> if i connect them after i boot, i can access them
[03:24] <IdleOne> francis_Albert_l,  tape /join #ubuntu-fr pour de l'aide en francais
[03:24] <ROBOd> if i restart the system, the devices are automatically mounted
[03:24] <magicfingers11> do you think upgrading bios will help
[03:24] <ROBOd> and i cannot access them with my normal account
[03:24] <ROBOd> i must use sudo
[03:24] <ROBOd> what to do?
[03:25] <txoof> ROBOd: restart the usb deamon after you boot.
[03:25] <francis_Albert_l> IdleOne, no, i from brazil
[03:25] <ROBOd> txoof: how?
[03:25] <IdleOne> francis_Albert_l, /join #ubuntu-br
[03:25] <theloner> is here anyone who could help me to get virmidi running in alsa under kubntu?
[03:25] <txoof> ROBOd: uhh, hang on a sec... fixing something else.
[03:25] <francis_Albert_l> IdleOne, dank
[03:25] <magicfingers11> good bye all
[03:25] <faked> how can I deny a service get started at the LiveCD bootprompt?
[03:25] <IdleOne> francis_Albert_l, obrigada
[03:25] <stefg> magicfingers11: no, grub can't see the disk... you need to install to a disk which is visible immediatly after power on
[03:25] <francis_Albert_l>  /join #ubuntu-br
[03:25] <francis_Albert_l>  /j #ubuntu-br
[03:26] <IdleOne> francis_Albert_l,  no space
[03:26] <magicfingers11> do you think it will see a pci slot if i buy a pci hdd
[03:26] <ken> p
[03:26] <N> hello
[03:26] <N> ^_^
[03:27] <ken> !hi | N
[03:27] <ubotu> N: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:27] <N> well well
 stil getting the  Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[03:27] <N> yes! i'm coming
[03:28] <txoof> ROBOd: read up on hotpluging.  I have a similar problem with my usb printer hand have to flash the firmware to /dev/usblp0 after boot.
[03:28] <ken> LjL: "Software is like sex; it's better when it's free." --Linus Torvalds" Are such quotes allowed in this channel? :)
[03:28] <IdleOne> LjL, would you happen to know where the config files for package: webboard would be? want to edit the default pastebin to ubuntu pastebin
[03:28] <IdleOne> ?
[03:28] <tim167> where can I see how much free space I have left on my harddrive ?
[03:28] <ROBOd> txoof: link please
[03:28] <LjL> ken, *shrug*, when they're in a quit message... it's hard to draw the line
[03:28] <the_conley> tim167: df -h
[03:28] <IdleOne> tim167, du -h
[03:28] <txoof> ROBOd: www.google.com
[03:28] <ken> txoof: :)
[03:28] <ROBOd> txoof: :P
[03:28] <LjL> IdleOne, no, but what about dpkg -L webboard?
[03:29] <the_conley> not du, thats just the current dir
[03:29] <Plinty> how can I make it that several programs could play sounds? Currently only one program can play sounds, if I start other program, then it doesn't play any sound. One exception is gnome desktop, it is able to play sounds anytime
[03:29] <stefg> insight: hmmm... your local net is set up, no firewall installed... what else can it be?
[03:29] <nova> How do I terminate a program
[03:29] <txoof> ROBOd: I don't have an exact link.  I just solved a similar problem, but for a printer.  YOu'll have to do the research your self.
[03:29] <N> who can answer for me. a question. about beryl install
[03:29] <the_conley> kill [pid] 
[03:29] <tim167> the_conley IdleOne: df -h or du -h ?
[03:29] <the_conley> df
[03:29] <IdleOne> df
[03:29] <insight> I tried to fix the install from the CD too
[03:29] <txoof> HOw does one set the password for cups web interface?
[03:29] <insight> I'm lost
[03:30] <maddash> anyone know a fast small irc client?
[03:30] <LjL> irssi?
[03:30] <stefg> insight: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/67412-synaptic-repos-refuse-connection-proxy-setting.html
[03:30] <maddash> that's what I'm using now
[03:30] <insight> i have tried all the different unbuntu Kubuntu
[03:30] <maddash> it maybe fast, but it sure isn't small
[03:30] <ken> LjL: How do i make a folder in Ubuntu, that every user is able to read/write, ever user can make sub-directories in it and paste whatever files and delete everything? Basically a kind of shared folder?
[03:30] <maddash> and it's console mode
[03:30] <nova> my crossover is stuck, how do kill it in the command line?
[03:30] <LjL> maddash: you want faster and smaller? hm
[03:30] <Plinty> can linux applications play different sounds at the same time?
[03:30] <daedra> hey what does the modes +ei mean next to the irc nick?
[03:30] <the_conley> what is wrong insight?
[03:30] <tim167> ok my harddisk space is used for  91%, could this be the reason why my computer is so slow ?
[03:30] <stefg> insight read the link...your proxy settings are screwed
[03:30] <maddash> LjL: well, how about something that works outside of console mode?
[03:30] <LjL> maddash: ircii perhaps?
[03:31] <insight> how do I change them
[03:31] <ken> tim167: You have swap? What's your RAM?
[03:31] <txoof> tim167: only if you have somehow managed to write over your swap.
[03:31] <LjL> !tinyirc | maddash
[03:31] <ubotu> tinyirc: a tiny IRC client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.dfsg.1-1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 116 kB
[03:31] <LjL> maddash: ah no, this is for console
[03:31] <nova> my crossover is stuck, how do kill it in the command line?
[03:31] <xaaax> ken: nothing happens when I type ctrl-alt-f1. In what moment do I have to type that?
[03:32] <tim167>  ken, txoof: i have 256 RAM, swap too i guess, dont know how much tho...
[03:32] <LjL> !lostirc | maddash
[03:32] <ubotu> lostirc: simple IRC client for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.6-2 (edgy), package size 241 kB, installed size 720 kB
[03:32] <ken> tim167: please wait
[03:32] <ken> xaaax: Till what steps did you follow?
[03:32] <Dicander> Is the K8NF6G-VSTA motherboard onboard graphics card supposed to be able to output 1280*1024? I only get 1024*768 and in the display settings menu this is the highest resolution.
[03:32] <daedra> I like irssi :)
[03:32] <N> sorry ! who can  help me!answer a question about 3D beryl
[03:33] <ken> xaaax: Did the wizard for "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" go on properly?
[03:33] <xaaax> ken: I'm inside gnome. All is loaded but that key sequence doesn't do anything.
[03:33] <ken> xaaax: Can you please re-bried me over your problem? I kinda'..forgot :)
[03:33] <ken> xaaax: *re-brief
[03:33] <LjL> maddash: that one is quite small, itself, smaller than irssi and ircii... but of course it does require a ton more libraries, since it's for X (and GTK)
[03:34] <gOldZahN> IdleOne, srYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY for being so late
[03:34] <xaaax> ken: i can't see my desktop. It is loaded but I screwed up X. I'm inside the desktop, just don't see anything. I want to login in text mode to change configuration but ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't do anything here
[03:34] <tim167> how can I see the size of my swap partition ?
[03:34] <nova> my crossover is stuck, how do kill it in the command line?
[03:35] <ken> tim167: Right-click on GNOME launch panel>add to panel> In System and Hardware section, add System MOnitor
[03:35] <LjL> ken: you probably want to create a group (say, "netshare"), make all the users that you want to access the directory members of that group, and then set that directory's setuid-group bit
[03:35] <Plinty> can ubuntu play different sounds at the same moment?
[03:35] <tim167> ken: tnx
[03:35] <N> help me! now!
[03:35] <IdleOne> !patience | N
[03:35] <ubotu> N: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:35] <stefg> !dmix | Plinty
[03:35] <ubotu> Plinty: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[03:36] <ken> tim167: NOw you should have 1/2/3 graphs on your panel, right click on any graph go to preferences and check mark the SWAP graph on, disable all the other graphs. Now monitor the swap graph to see if you are overloading your SWAP area
[03:36] <IdleOne> N btw if you dont ask a question no one can help you
[03:36] <N> thank you!
[03:36] <tuna-fish-> Anyone know a good tty emulator tat lets you set the size of the window in rows*columns and if you resize it it streches the font?
[03:37] <tim167> ken: in the Resources tab that is ?
[03:37] <maddash> LjL: lostirc is 4.5 MB including the libraries I have to install
[03:37] <ken> xaaax: Press the left ctrl- left alt along with f1 key together and you shall enter a text mode. Definitely please try it once more
[03:37] <N> thank you everyone! bye!
[03:38] <LjL> maddash, problem is, i can see that the package itself is small, but i cannot know which libraries and dependencies you already have ;)
[03:38] <ken> N: You are welcome :)
[03:38] <nova> my crossover is stuck, how do kill it in the command line?
[03:38] <ken> tim167: please be a little more specific
[03:38] <maddash> eh
[03:38] <LjL> maddash, problem is, i can see that the package itself is small, but i cannot know which libraries and dependencies you already have ;)
[03:38] <ken> xaaax: What happened?
[03:39] <xaaax> ken: it worked now but had to keep keys pressed for like 3 seconds
[03:39] <xaaax> thanks
[03:39] <maddash> LjL: nearly none of them - I just got out of a fresh **server** install of breezy
[03:39] <LjL> ken: saw my message? it came a bit late. but is the idea clear?
[03:39] <LjL> maddash: server install - ok, that means you have ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard IIRC, and little more
[03:39] <ken> xaaax: Follow the process and it should all work well, i shall wait till you get it working correctly :)
[03:39] <LjL> maddash: well, you seem to have X too, though
[03:40] <ken> LjL: Yes i got the idea about making a group, and sharing the privileges with the group
[03:40] <cden> Ah, this is the first time I have used IRC through gaim. Can anyone see this message?
[03:40] <kanzie> I cant type less-then / greater-then and fork-characters since I installed Edgy with beryl and Swedish keyboard-mapping
[03:40] <tim167> ken: i opened system monitor, you advised me to close the two graphs that are not the SWAP, I can't close them...but maybe that's not crucial. I just want to see if I have enough swap, diskspace, Ram, and find out why my system is so slow at times...
[03:40] <N> thank !i'm very bad for english! my chinese ! see you later!
[03:40] <matason> cden: yip
[03:40] <maddash> LjL: yep.
[03:40] <ken> LjL: The only thing i dont understand is this : set that directory's setuid-group bit
[03:40] <stefg> !zh | N
[03:40] <ubotu> N: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[03:40] <maddash> LjL: tirc...only requires libncurses
[03:40] <maddash> brb
[03:41] <nova> my program is stuck, how do kill it in the command line?
[03:41] <LjL> ken: well the important point is making the directory setgid. that means that any files that are created inside the directory get the group of the *directory*, and not of the user creating them (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid )
[03:41] <Blinker> is there anyone here with icecast experience who's attention i can borrow for a few moments?
[03:41] <nova> how do find the id to kill it
[03:41] <cden> Thanks Matason
[03:41] <Blinker> i'm trying to get it up and running for the first time =p
[03:41] <ken> tim167: yes you got the idea, i asked you to disable those (if that was possible) so that you would get a clear idea whether your swap overflowed or not
[03:41] <matason> nova: ps
[03:41] <tuna-fish-> nova: ps  aux to console
[03:42] <matason> cden: np
[03:42] <ken> nova: run "ps -eux" and find the disturbing programs id, than run "kill -9 <ID>"
[03:42] <ken> LjL: I am really learning Linux, now :)
[03:42] <tuna-fish-> if tyhe list is too long, ps aux | grep <whatever you want to find without the"<>">
[03:43] <francis_Albert_l> oi
[03:43] <tim167> ken: swap graph is very static, around 33% usage
[03:43] <ken> tim167: And you say your computer behaves sluggishly?
[03:43] <J-_> what package can I download to see what my cpu temp is?
[03:43] <LjL> J-_: lm-sensors
[03:43] <J-_> thanks
[03:43] <xaaax> ken: should there be a problem enabling glx and dri modules even if I don't have them installed or don't support them?
[03:44] <tim167> ken: yes, especially when I have large images open in Gimp for example
[03:44] <LjL> J-_: then run "sensors-detect" as root to detect the sensors and tell you which kernel modules to load, and then "sensors" to actually see the values. then if you want there are several front-ends for both GNOME and KDE i believe
[03:44] <tim167> ken: my swap is 705 MB
[03:45] <ken> xaaax: Since your PC, has not got a FUNCTIONAL GUI i recommend not doing anything out of the ordinary, stick with the defaults unless you know they have been detected wrong, so than you have a GUI running. Than you can get into the specifics by asking @ ubuntuforums.org. BTW i dont know the answer to your question :)
[03:45] <J-_> LjL: thanks dude
[03:45] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Aoirthoir about nickspam | Aoirthoir, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:45] <ken> tim167: CPU/RAM please
[03:45] <J-_> LjL: Yeah I'm getting conky running =D pretty sweet program!
[03:45] <ken> ubotu tell ken about yourself
[03:46] <tim167> ken: am running xload, i see large peaks when using Gimp, or OpenOffice, CPU=3gHz intel PIV, RAM=256MB
[03:46] <wyld> where is my sources.list?
[03:46] <LjL> wyld: /etc/apt/
[03:46] <namespace> jez, what happend to the old xchat? how can i get the old interface back?
[03:46] <wyld> thanks ljl
[03:46] <LjL> namespace: sudo apt-get install xchat
[03:46] <ken> tim167: Something wrong. Sorry i can;t be of much help to you. Good luck with your linux endeavors.
[03:46] <tim167> ken: then I have to wait after every action for a window to become active again (freezes)
[03:46] <stefg> !xchat
[03:46] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[03:47] <stefg> !xchat-gnome
[03:47] <ubotu> xchat-gnome: a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.13-0ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 296 kB, installed size 780 kB
[03:47] <namespace> ah thx
[03:47] <tim167> ken: np
[03:47] <namespace> yeah i got the gnome one ;)
[03:47] <ken> tim167: Maybe LjL can help you.
[03:47] <siv0x> does anyone the directory in kde for synaptic, it wont let me open synaptic with terminal, well it will but only write only.
[03:47] <J-_> LjL: No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them
[03:47] <ken> LjL: CPU=3gHz intel PIV, RAM=256MB, SWAP=750MB runs sluggish at times. please help tim167
[03:48] <LjL> J-_: hm, yeah, that happens to some people... try "sudo modprobe i2c-dev"
[03:48] <tim167> LjL, ken:  if you have time that is ofcourse :p
[03:48] <xaaax> ken: alright, it seems that config is over, how can I kill the xserver that is running?
[03:48] <Plinty> is there a way to configure wine to use dmix?
[03:48] <ken> xaaax: Are you in text-mode?
[03:48] <stefg> sudo /etc/init.d7?dm restart
[03:49] <stefg> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[03:49] <matason> What's the best approach for trouble-shooting total lock ups in Ubuntu 6.06?
[03:49] <LjL> ken, tim167: well if you're using the GIMP and OOo, and "only" have 256Mb of RAM (yeah, i know, the "only" is unfortunate and a bit ridiculous, but), i'm not too surprised that things go sluggish.  but *what* is sluggish exactly? you get high CPU load, high I/O usage, high swap space usage, or all of them?
[03:49] <stefg> matason: readin screen messages and logfiles
[03:49] <xaaax> ken: yes
[03:50] <Yoshimitsu> we have come a long way today
[03:50] <matason> stefg: Right, I get no messages or anything in the log...
[03:50] <J-_> LjL: I did the command, no error, nothing came up. So I guess it's detected?
[03:50] <matason> It happens randomly
[03:50] <ken> xaaax: If you are having a dysfunctional GUI running in the background, you can navigate to it be pressing ctr-alt-f7. Once there press ctr-alt-backspace, and it shall restartx
[03:50] <LjL> matason: dmesg may be a good start, then grep through all of /var/log.  also, i suggest that when it locks you, you try pressing SysRq (which is usually AltGr+SysRq, really) together with the following keys, in sequence: R S E I U B
[03:51] <siv0x> does anyone the directory in kde for synaptic, it wont let me open synaptic with terminal, well it will but only write only.
[03:51] <matason> Ok thanks LjL, stefg
[03:51] <Yoshimitsu> ok got Wireless running on PPC now i need to find the mac address, as i dont use SSID i use mac addresses to control access, but i cant seem to find the correct address even when looking in device manager
[03:51] <tim167> LjL: everything freezes until a process is done, (like opening a file or saving) I have to wait long until gui interfaces become active again after every action
[03:51] <LjL> matason: that will hopefully reboot the system more cleanly than if you just pressed the Reset switch, avoiding filesystem corruptions and giving the system more chances to actually *write* stuff to the logs
[03:51] <th3man> Yoshimitsu: ifconfig -a
[03:52] <matason> Lyl: Ok maybe that's my problem - after a lock up I've been leaving it for a few minutes and then powering down with the on/off
[03:52] <Yoshimitsu> thanks th3man :) ifconfig did little i was hoping to get the rest :)
[03:52] <ken> xaaax: IF pressing and holding ctr-alt-f7 does nothing for you, then simply type "startx" at the command prompt
[03:52] <CarlFK> what email servers support imap?
[03:52] <Blissex> !nvidia
[03:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:52] <stefg> tim167: does the harddisk work then, or is it just waiting for something to happen?
[03:52] <ken> xaaax: Everything alright?
[03:52] <shadowhywind> what is the difference between the 386 kernel and the 686 kernel??
[03:52] <stefg> the name
[03:53] <th3man> CarlFK: scalix is a good one to try
[03:53] <ken> stefg :)
[03:53] <LjL> tim167: well, at any rate, i strongly recommend that you get another 256 - or better, 512 Mb - of RAM if you can afford it. having a 3GHz processor, but just 256Mb of RAM, is a waste. besides that... you could want to try "sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/hda" (or, if not 'hda', whatever your root HD is), and see if the HD is working at reasonable speeds
[03:53] <J-_> weird, i type 'sensors' and it still says no sensors detected
[03:53] <tim167> stefg: good that you ask that, I almost forgot to say: there is unusually high disk activity at those 'freeze' moments...
[03:53] <jeanjean>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY perenboom
[03:53] <CarlFK> doh!
[03:53] <dllh> d'oh
[03:53] <siv0x> lawl
[03:53] <J-_> lol
[03:53] <jeanjean> lol
[03:53] <ken> jeanjean: WE saw your password :)
[03:53] <stork> !evdev
[03:53] <stefg> tim167: that's called thrash of death
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <th3man> jeanjean: you're gonna have to change that
[03:53] <LjL> tim167: (for reference, i get around 50-60 Mb/s speed on a Celeron 1700 with an udma6 HD)
[03:53] <th3man> lol
[03:54] <tim167> LjL: thanks
[03:54] <stefg> tim167: you need more RAM
[03:54] <stack_> I have a cron job that just stopped working.  It worked a month or so back, but now it just doesn't run.  What's a good way to diagnose this?
[03:54] <LjL> tim167: but, yeah, stefg also has a point. if you hear the HD chewing like crazy while the system is unresponsive, it's probably using the swap space, which just means you've run out of physical memory
[03:54] <ken> LjL: stefg: What configuration (cpu-speed, hdd-size, RAM) would you term recommended and minimum for Ubuntu
[03:55] <LjL> of course, a faster HD helps there... but not really much. you just need more RAM
[03:55] <tim167> stefg, LjL: ok, more Ram, that's what I thaught, could I by any chance put Ram of a PIII laptop into my PIV ?
[03:55] <stefg> no way
[03:55] <sephirot1> is there a  way to open .deb files in windows?
[03:55] <rambo3> winrar ?
[03:55] <sephirot1> for some reason i am getting an invalid archive msg when i run apt-get with the downloaded files
[03:55] <LjL> ken, IMHO 256Mb is good enough, but barely. i'd never go below 192Mb. still, if you use memory-intensive applications, 256Mb is still quite little, and anyway, again, a 3GHz processor is totally wasted with that little RAM, for desktop purposes
[03:55] <siv0x> does anyone the directory in kde for synaptic, it wont let me open synaptic with terminal, well it will but only write only.
[03:56] <dudes> HI THERE!
[03:56] <LjL> tim167, i doubt it, laptops don't use the kinds of RAM that are in desktop computers normally
[03:56] <wyld> hi dudes
[03:56] <rambo3> siv0x,  waht?
[03:56] <tim167> LjL: both laptops
[03:56] <LjL> siv0x: try "kdesu synaptic"
[03:56] <LjL> tim167: ah, well, then maybe, but still i don't really know
[03:57] <dudes> i have a question, what it the equivalent, in Ubuntu, to the file "hosts" in windows?
[03:57] <ollekalle> Hi, is there any proper way to uninstall HW in Ubuntu. I am planning to disable my onboard NIC and put in a new PCI one. Shall I just shutdown and mount new HW and reboot?
[03:57] <sephirot1> anyone?
[03:57] <LjL> dudes: /etc/hosts ?
[03:57] <stack_> dudes: /etc/hosts
[03:57] <dudes> thaks!
[03:57] <wyld> what is the advantage to the 64 bit editions? does they run faster?
[03:57] <dudes> i will try it
[03:57] <rambo3> !blacklist > ollekalle
[03:57] <matason> sephirotl: someone suggested winrar
[03:58] <sephirot1> rambo3: tried winrar. says invalid invalid archive.
[03:58] <LjL> wyld: probably, a little. probably, not very noticeable. certainly, you'll get a headache if you need to install WINE, Flash, the W32codecs, and other (mostly proprietary) stuff
[03:58] <wyld> oh joy
[03:58] <xaaax> ken: I now have a functional high-res desktop like I wanted before screwing things up. Thanks!
[03:58] <tech09> ollekalle, yes... should be fine
[03:58] <wyld> i hate proprietary crap
[03:58] <ken> xaaax: You are welcome, Happy to be of service :)
[03:58] <QwertyM> we all do :(
[03:58] <ollekalle> tech09: thanks
[03:59] <dudes> when i change the /etc/hosts files, what i have to do to work with the changes?
[03:59] <LjL> wyld, QwertyM: right, but still even SourceForge is using Flash now ;-)   (yes, yes, it does still work without)
[03:59] <ken> xaaax: I just happened to be at the right place, in the right frame of mind at the right time, to help you, thats all :)
[03:59] <dudes> oh, nothing it works :P
[03:59] <stefg> dudes: this is linux, in case you didn't notice :-)
[03:59] <matason> dudes: yip
[03:59] <wyld> yay for the cool linux
[03:59] <ken> wyld: I simply love, adore it, i cant love without proprietary <whatever> ;)
[03:59] <zero-9376> anyone know of an app to build a xbox iso for linux?
[04:00] <QwertyM> MPlayer better than Xine ?
[04:00] <stefg> !better
[04:00] <ken> QwertyM: Methinks
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about better - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <tim167> ken, LjL, stefg: ok guys, thanks for the help, I'll clearly have to go for more RAM, hope things get smoothened out a bit then :)
[04:00] <wyld> ken: I know, That is why lots of us dual boot
[04:00] <QwertyM> ken, ok, I'll try playing some vids and do a test :)
[04:00] <stefg> tim167: or a neat lil' fluxbuntu install :-)
[04:00] <ken> wyld: That was meant to be sarcastic
[04:00] <sephirot1> wyld: cause there are soemthings that linux is not most appropriate for.
[04:00] <ken> QwertyM: Please report the results
[04:01] <QwertyM> sure ken
[04:01] <QwertyM> lemme install mplayer now :p
[04:01] <QwertyM> was surprised I dont have it heh
[04:01] <QwertyM> apt-get ftw... :P
[04:01] <ken> LjL: stefg: Would using Xubuntu help tim167, to stop those moments of 'freezes' that he experiences when opening resource-heavy apps?
[04:02] <stefg> Ken, it would help, but his problem isn't one of a few MB... large photos in gimp can eat up +100MB easily
[04:02] <sephirot1> my dhcp3 server fails to start up. could this be caused by a failed piece of hardware (ethernet card)?
[04:02] <wyld> ken, sephirotl: I know
[04:03] <tim167> stefg: yea I did install fluxbox but I couldnt get it to work right yet, I have also installed Xubuntu, but I'm not sure what I'm running now, it looks like plain Gnome in fact, although the login splash screen says 'Xubuntu'
[04:03] <tim167> ^ken
[04:04] <stefg> tim167: and if you installed a lot chances are that theres a bunch of daemons chewing on your system resources...
[04:04] <LjL> ken, tim167: maybe, but only if he changes his choice of applications. using Xubuntu and then full-blown GNOME apps on it wouldn't make much sense, since most/all of the GNOME libraries would still be used
[04:04] <ken> LjL: stefg: Help: When i open some window or some window is opened by defualt by a application (eg. firefox messages). Than a Oval (ellipsoid) really small ellipsoid opens up, on stretching it out with a mouse, one sees that it is a window that is empty (it shouldn't, there was some problem that caused a empty small window), so when one stretched out that ellipsoid than a empty window is seen, which should actually have been a decent sized notification message. Thi
[04:04] <LjL> but then neither OOo nor the GIMP are GNOME applications strictly speaking
[04:04] <ken> LjL: not even GIMP?
[04:05] <LjL> ken: no. actually,
[04:05] <LjL> !gtk
[04:05] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[04:05] <LjL> ken: GTK was *created* for the GIMP, and it still just uses GTK directly
[04:05] <tim167> stefg: that's very likely, I installed ALOT (new ubuntu user trying out new toys huh ;) )
[04:05] <stefg> gtk means Gimp Tool Kit
[04:05] <TooR4u> how to hide our ip in IRC?
[04:06] <LjL> ken, i have no idea what you're talking about there, honestly :o)
[04:06] <LjL> TooR4u: ask the Freenode staff for an unaffiliated cloak
[04:06] <LjL> TooR4u: www.freenode.net
[04:06] <stefg> tim167: So you did everything right: Ckecking the limits, gaining experience and developing a feel for what is what and needs this and that
[04:06] <LjL> Ubotu, tell TooR4u about cloak | TooR4u, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:06] <stefg> tim167: so it's time for a real install now :-)
[04:07] <siv0x> How do i get to wine with KDE Desktop?
[04:07] <ken> ubotu tell ken about cloak
[04:07] <LjL> siv0x: sudo apt-get install wine -- or the equivalent from Adept
[04:07] <siv0x> Sorry not wine, but Synaptic.
[04:07] <cody___> I have a question for people. I am fairly new to Linux and I did a 64bit install of Ubuntu the other night and I am having all kinds of problems getting things to work. Does the 64bit version have more problems (incompatablities, etc) that the 32bit version
[04:07] <LjL> !msg the bot | ken
[04:07] <ubotu> ken: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:07] <stefg> cody___: oh, yessss....
[04:07] <LjL> siv0x: kdesu synaptic
[04:08] <siv0x> LjL: well, that helps too.. i'm having problems getting wine installed.. and i was going to do it with synaptic.
[04:08] <cody___> stefg, I plan on installing the 32bit version and I am hoping things go smoother
[04:08] <LjL> siv0x: what kind of problems?
[04:08] <cody___> it took me about 15 hours to get wireless working
[04:08] <stefg> cody___: and have fun with codecs and flash :-) which don't work s good on 64bit
[04:09] <siv0x> LjL: for one, getting to synaptic.. also, that command gives me an error.
[04:09] <LjL> siv0x: pastebin the error
[04:09] <LjL> Ubotu, tell siv0x about pastebin | siv0x, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:09] <ken> Good Bye people, Happy UBUNT-ing
[04:09] <LjL> bye ken
[04:09] <siv0x> ljl: i know how.
[04:09] <tim167> stefg: yes, maybe, but some things that are working now took alot of effort (like certain specific alsa drivers, certain libraries I compiled...) I'd have to do that all over then...
[04:09] <cody___> has anyone installed 32bit edgy w/broadcom wireless?
[04:10] <sephirot1> LjL: whats the easiest way to test a samba server - at home i've got only 2 PCs i could hook them up via cross-over cables...but thats where i get lost
[04:10] <LjL> siv0x: sure, it's just that many people take "pastebin" as "paste", and flood the channel, so i've learned to avoid that in advance :)
[04:10] <stefg> tim167: if you did your compiling right you have your stuff as .debs, even if its just checknstall debs
[04:11] <stefg> !checkinstall | tim167
[04:11] <ubotu> tim167: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[04:11] <siv0x> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39326/
[04:11] <siv0x> LjL: i know :P
[04:11] <Yoshimitsu> phew got wireless working
[04:11] <Yoshimitsu> thank god thats over
[04:12] <LjL> sephirot1: "sudo mount //server-name-or-ip-address/share-name /mount/point -o username=some-user-that-you-have-enabled-on-the-server"    and on the server, you'll need smbpasswd to enable users to login, as well as editing /etc/samba/smb.conf to add shares
[04:12] <LjL> siv0x: uhm, that's while trying to run 'kdesu synaptic'?
[04:13] <LjL> siv0x: how did you install KDE? you used the Kubuntu CD, or installed the 'kubuntu-desktop' package, or what?
[04:13] <tim167> stefg: I'll think about it, but for the time being I'll stick with this 'working-but-at-times-sluggish' installation. My sound apps work quite well btw. and who knows with a bit more Ram popped in, it might even become livable :-p
[04:13] <siv0x> kubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <LjL> siv0x: (note that the first couple of warnings -- the "X error" ones -- are normal)
[04:13] <Rug> Howdy all
[04:13] <LjL> siv0x: does 'sudo' work normally? like, try 'sudo true'
[04:14] <siv0x> LjL: yes
[04:14] <siv0x> LjL: i can always reinstall KDE if this will fix the problems, thats no biggy
[04:14] <LjL> siv0x: ok, then after those error, it just puts you back to a shell prompt?
[04:14] <stefg> tim167: a default install of ubuntu is possible in 3G... i have 3 ubuntus on my box, for reference or testing reasons
[04:14] <LjL> siv0x: i don't think it will
[04:14] <siv0x> LjL: yes
[04:14] <siv0x> LjL: okay so is it a major problem or?
[04:14] <tim167> stefg: what's 3G ?
[04:15] <stefg> tim167: 3 GigaByte
[04:15] <tim167> stefg: ok
[04:15] <LjL> siv0x, i haven't the slightest idea right now. does 'kdesu' work with other programs? like, try 'kdesu true' and then also 'kdesu kate' and 'kdesu gedit'
[04:15] <LjL> siv0x, also are you on edgy or dapper?
[04:15] <stefg> so you can alway install two versions side-by-side and check things, then just copy over wht 'passed' the test
[04:16] <StingRay> Hi. Can somebody tell if I can modify the login menus, like type of session and etc?
[04:16] <sephirot1> LjL: there's more. most of the machines at work use windows. I am going to assign IPs using DHCP3. All the hosts will be connected to the switch - same goes for the linux box running DHCP3.
[04:16] <HughMiliator> quit
[04:16] <siv0x> LjL: i'm on dapper
[04:16] <sephirot1> question is, if windows boxes are configures to automatically configure the ip, would DHCP do work?
[04:16] <HughMiliator> .quit
[04:16] <LjL> sephirot1: DHCP shouldn't be a big problem i think... but myself, all i've ever worked with is a very small static-IP network
[04:17] <daedra> script load trackbar.pl
[04:17] <daedra> oops
[04:17] <LjL> siv0x: have you ever edited /etc/sudoers and/or set a root password?
[04:18] <siv0x> LjL: no
[04:18] <minerale> I currenly have an ipv4 inet address, however ifconfig shows some pseudo-fake ipv6 address for eth0: inet6 addr: fe80::12:3f:fe:66/64 Scope:Link  -  and this is causing me confusion with the other *actual* ipv6 inet address -- ie local ipv4 connections are showing as ipv6 when they should not (netstat) - how can I have eth0 be ipv4 only ?
[04:18] <siv0x> LjL: if i reformatt, can you help me get my nvidia driver back?
[04:19] <siv0x> LjL: or is there maybe an easier way out of this?
[04:19] <daedra> stefg: haha
[04:19] <sephirot1> minerale: doesnt it work when you have it configured explicitly for the iface to be inet4 in /etc/network/interfaces?
[04:19] <willie_> I have Ubuntu 6.06 LTS installed on my pc, but i've problems with my graphics!! There is only one setting for the refreshrate and any full screen movie laggs! Even the screensavers laggs. can anyone pleasse give advice
[04:19] <LjL> siv0x: maybe, one thing at a time. i don't think you'll have to reformat, right now
[04:19] <siv0x> LjL: k
[04:20] <LjL> siv0x: how did you install the nvidia drivers, though? (and, have you ever run chmod or chown as root?)
[04:20] <HHak> Hello, I have a problem with my Ubuntu. Could anyone advice me in this one?
[04:20] <LjL> siv0x: and, does kdesu even show the password dialog, or just fails with those errors without showing any window?
[04:21] <stefg> !anyone | HHak
[04:21] <ubotu> HHak: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:21] <firepol> HHak, as the question directly
[04:21] <firepol> ask
[04:21] <Riyonuk> Has anyone installed kismet?
[04:21] <siv0x> LjL: kdesu just ends at what i pasted, doesnt give me a place to type anymore. and it doesnt give me a password dialog
[04:22] <HHak> I have this problem: Something happened while I was switching off services from System -> Admin -> Services. The window crashed and closed. Now everytime I try to reopen this window it pops out a message box saying "Configuration could not be loaded ... You are not allowed to access the system configuration."
[04:22] <HHak> Rebooting did not help
[04:22] <Stormx2> HHak: Eek
[04:22] <HHak> and additionally when I log in, its says "internal error ... failed to initialize HAL"
[04:22] <Stormx2> HHak: Which service?
[04:22] <HHak> I dont recall anymore
[04:22] <Stormx2> Bleh
[04:23] <HHak> I think it was the printing services
[04:23] <Stormx2> ubuntuforums.org <-- post a topic
[04:23] <LjL> siv0x: i can't find anything on google or launchpad... do you have the dapper-updates and dapper-security repositories enabled (for all components - main restricted universe and multiverse, if you have them all)? and did you do an upgrade recently?
[04:23] <HHak> ok
[04:23] <siv0x> LjL: yes, i upgraded recently, and i'm not sure about anything else.
[04:23] <LjL> siv0x: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list just to be sure
[04:25] <siv0x> LjL: how do i find /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[04:25] <siv0x> LjL: i'm new with linux.
[04:25] <Rug> While running WineTools (for the first time), my system rebooted.  Upon restart I get a Grub15 error.  I can access all the data if I boot off of a CD.  fsck reports a clean / partiton.  Any suggestions to allow me to boot again?
[04:26] <Rug> siv0x: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:26] <LjL> siv0x: type "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"  --  of if kdesu fails, just "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" (but, i *am* interested to know if it fails with kate)
[04:26] <wyld> how can i get thunderbird?
[04:27] <LjL> siv0x: if with nano you have trouble pasting, just "kate /etc/apt/sources.list" (that way you won't be able to modify it, but you'll still be able to read it)
[04:27] <LjL> wyld: sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[04:27] <Riyonuk> How come when I try to move a file from one place to another I get an access denied related error? I then have to do sudo mv file place and thats a pain...
[04:27] <wyld> thanks ljl
[04:27] <stefg> Rug: i can't see a plausible relation between wine and grub atm... unless you decided to have /boot as your wine-dir :-) (impossible in reality)
[04:27] <KDan> hello... i'm trying to get wireless working on a dell latitude D410, ubuntu 6.10. iwconfig shows the eth1 wireless, but lshw shows *-network DISABLED... I've made the wireless enabled by default in the bios (it already was)... tried telling it the ssid in ubuntu's network config... what else can i do?
[04:27] <LjL> Ubotu, tell wyld about software | wyld, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:28] <bulmer> Rug: several "grub 15 error"  explanations found on google
[04:28] <Rug> stefg: it might be a coincidence, but I thought I would provide all the setails
[04:28] <Rug> details
[04:28] <stefg> Rug: i'd have a careful look at your HD's smart-stats, and run a RAM-Test
[04:29] <bulmer> KDan: tried the "iwlist" commands yet?
[04:29] <stefg> !smartmontools
[04:29] <ubotu> smartmontools: control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.36-6ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 256 kB, installed size 620 kB
[04:29] <Rug> stefg: if it all looks good?  nuke &^ reinstall?
[04:30] <wyld> ljl, i knew about that, but i couldn't find it in synaptic, and didn't know the exact spelling in apt-get
[04:30] <KDan> bulmer: nope. *tries*
[04:30] <stefg> Rug: backing up before might be a good idea... theres always some setting which you'll need afterwards again
[04:30] <LjL> wyld: then "apt-cache search thunder" would have helped
[04:30] <wyld> oh
[04:30] <vinylgirl> Hello, I have the following problem: when I connect my USB WiFi adapter, it always shows as eth1 and never as wlan0 I did vi /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[04:30] <wyld> i didn't know aboot that
[04:30] <Rug> ok thanks
[04:31] <LjL> wyld: which is why i gave you those factoids ;)
[04:31] <vinylgirl> and put alias wlan0 zd1211rw
[04:31] <vinylgirl> but it stills shows up as eth1 in iwconfig
[04:31] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know why proftpd when trying to start it hangs?
[04:31] <KDan> bulmer: no scan results
[04:32] <jbroome> CaptainMorgan: not off hand, but i'm pretty sure it logs to /var/log
[04:32] <vinylgirl> here's what the kernel says when I plugin my usb wifi adapter: Dec 29 16:29:45 lithium kernel: [17203961.060000]  zd1211rw 4-5:1.0: zd1211b chip 0ace:1215 v4810 high 00-02-72 AL2230_RF pa0 g--
[04:32] <narma> hello, how can change my xubuntu to ubuntu without reinstall ?
[04:32] <vinylgirl> shows up as eth1
[04:32] <IdleOne> narma, sudoa aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[04:32] <IdleOne> narma, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[04:33] <bulmer> KDan: umm the driver for your chips may have not been loaded yet or non-functional non-compatible with the chips you have..you can try  lsmod to see which driver module is loaded for your chip
[04:33] <CaptainMorgan> there's no log jbroome, this would be the first time Im starting it... maybe it's a bad config file?
[04:33] <IdleOne> narma, after thats installed you will need to logout and back in chosing gnome insession at login screen
[04:34] <stefg> narma: by sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop you get all the ubuntu setup... but you have to get rid of the xfce packages manually
[04:34] <narma> IdleOne, ubuntu-desktop will update all the system to be a ubuntu that's right ?
[04:34] <bulmer> KDan: as a consolation, my ACX11 TI chips seems to be non-functional with the stock driver that came with ubuntu, I could not get it to scan either
[04:34] <narma> stef, IdleOne thanks :)
[04:34] <KDan> bulmer: I think the module is "bcm43xx" since it's a broadcom 4306
[04:34] <IdleOne> narma, yes but like stefg said you will need to remove xfce by hand if you choose to do so
[04:34] <KDan> it's there when i type lsmod
[04:35] <CaptainMorgan> maybe I should log out and see what happens?
[04:35] <doopsie> hello people, i own a w5f and was trying to get the webcam to work under it. i found a website http://lists-archives.org/spca50x-devs/01024-asus-w5f-laptop-with-vimicro-webcam-usb2-ubuntu-edgy.html that showed ppl how to make it work under linux but i dont quite understand the instructions. could somebody guide me along it?
[04:35] <bulmer> KDan: is that a stock module that came with ubuntu install? am just guessing its not totally compatible with your chips
[04:36] <KDan> yep, so
[04:36] <KDan> *stock
[04:36] <doopsie> http://www.acacs.org/bernard/ this is the website that it links to but i dont understand the language
[04:37] <KDan> somewhat annoying is that the wiki page for the "LaptopTestingTeam" is 404'ing, even though that's what's linked from the wifidocs
[04:37] <KDan> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaptopTestingTeam
[04:37] <bulmer> KDan: maybe you try reloading the module via  modprobe bcm43xx
[04:37] <LjL> Ubotu, tell [niceday] _ about away | [niceday] _, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:37] <bulmer> rather unload (rmmod)  then reload modprobe
[04:38] <stefg> doopsie: have you ever compiled software from source before?
[04:38] <webmaren> the cover looks...
[04:38] <webmaren> ...interesting
[04:38] <doopsie> im quite a linux newbie. i've tried compiling, but never really succeeded
[04:38] <doopsie> its the tar -xyfz thing or something right?
[04:39] <HHak> excuse me, what was the nickname for the 6.10 release? dapper drake?
[04:39] <doopsie> edgy eft
[04:39] <LjL> Ubotu, tell HHak about edgy | HHak, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:39] <HHak> oh yeah
[04:39] <bulmer> KDan: just my experience so far...i tried to use the ipaq driver for pda that is stock, and fails, i have to reload it to make it work..
[04:39] <RedShift> what's better in terms of performance
[04:39] <RedShift> xfs or jfs?
[04:39] <Aarohi> i'm getting an 'internal error' 'failed to initialize HAL' error when ubuntu boots up
[04:39] <stefg> doopsie: he whole process involves a lot of knowledge, and i'd suggest to get a geek to get it done
[04:40] <RedShift> (kubuntu 6.06 doesn't support reiserfs??)
[04:40] <LjL> RedShift: it does - if you use the alternate CD
[04:40] <doopsie> there isn
[04:40] <bulmer> doopsie:  tar -x  filename   x is for extracting an archived file like a zip file
[04:40] <LjL> RedShift: with the Desktop CD, i think you can only use ext3
[04:40] <doopsie> there isn't any linux geek where i live =(
[04:40] <KDan> bulmer: thanks for the help. just tried it and didn't work unfortunately :-(
[04:40] <RedShift> crap
[04:40] <LjL> !convertfs | RedShift
[04:40] <ubotu> convertfs: in-place filesystem conversion. In component universe, is extra. Version 20050113-1 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 116 kB
[04:40] <montoya> Why kdevelop run in english!!! My locale is set to italian
[04:40] <KDan> it installs all the other sensible dependencies... e.g. ieee80211, etc
[04:41] <LjL> RedShift: (note that's *dangerous*, only do it if you've got nothing to lose on the partition)
[04:41] <KDan> well, 2 of them anyway
[04:41] <bulmer> KDan: am struggling with my ACX11 card too..have not tried ndiswrapper yet..
[04:41] <doopsie> yup. that part i nkow =)
[04:41] <vinylgirl> Hm, my WiFi adapter always shows as eth1 and not wlan0. I already changed things in vi /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[04:41] <vinylgirl> but it doens't help... How the fuck can I fix this ?
[04:41] <bulmer> well i had acx11 work on suse with ndiswrapper just have with ubuntu yet
[04:41] <DBO> vinylgirl, watch the language please
[04:41] <LjL> !language | vinylgirl
[04:41] <ubotu> vinylgirl: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:42] <stefg> !language | vinylgirl
[04:42] <DBO> I win
[04:42] <IdleOne> vinylgirl, start by not swearing in here please this is a family type channel
[04:42] <stefg> ok,
[04:42] <bulmer> vinylgirl: whats so wrong with having an interface name eth1 instead of wlan1 ?
[04:42] <LjL> DBO: you didn't have the family friendly part. you lose
[04:42] <DBO> you cheated
[04:42] <LjL> DBO: ubotu ain't cheating :P
[04:43] <stefg> BTW, DBO i owe some OSS royalties for the code snippets yu gave me in summer... the box works now and we have a happy old lady with email
[04:43] <vinylgirl> bulmer: well it's a pain in the ass. And the same device shows as wlan0 in Debian, after editing the udev configuration
[04:43] <KDan> bulmer: hmm.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingUbuntuOnADellLatitudeX1?highlight=%28dell%29 seems to imply that i need some sort of "ipw2200" driver
[04:44] <vinylgirl> ... but, *sigh*, the udev configuration in Ubuntu differs from DEbian
[04:44] <DBO> stefg, Id be lying if I said I remembered =P
[04:44] <KDan> and remove ieee80211
[04:44] <HHak> thanks for your help, i posted a question in the forums ...
[04:44] <bulmer> KDan: we must do what it takes to get it working  :)
[04:44] <unfun> How do I acces the terminal through my key board?
[04:44] <stefg> DBO: awk.... textfiles with increasing number... anyway, thanks a lot
[04:44] <HHak> logging out
[04:45] <DBO> stefg, remember now, glad it worked out for you =)
[04:45] <StingRay> Can somebody tell if I can edit the login manager?
[04:45] <sugarray> buenas
[04:45] <psycode> for some reason i have no internet access from my ubuntu machine. i get an ip from the router, but that's about it. can someone help me with that? (im a windows user usually) - how can i for example check my defauly gateway settings?
[04:46] <sugarray> alguien en castellano?
[04:46] <LjL> !es | sugarray
[04:46] <ubotu> sugarray: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:46] <QwertyM> unfun, hit alt f2, search terminal and hit enter
[04:46] <Silverboi> Hi guys..just wanted to know if anyone has successfully installed and booted Ubuntu with a USB harddisk on a MacIntel laptop?
[04:47] <stefg> psycode: DNS trouble?
[04:47] <StingRay> Can somebody tell me if I can restrict some users to graphical login of ubuntu?
[04:47] <psycode> stef, nope, i tried google.com's ip.
[04:47] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Hi all! How do I find out if /boot/grub is on (hd0,0)... (hd1,0)... ??
[04:47] <psycode> stefg, that was for you^
[04:47] <stefg> got it... still chewing on it
[04:48] <psycode> stefg, how can i check my default gateway?
[04:48] <chimera_> Is it possible to use emerald without beryl for perfs?
[04:48] <stefg> cat /etc/network/interfaces
[04:48] <chand|> psycode: $ route
[04:49] <psycode> stefg, yup that's incorrect:) how can i change the default gateway?
[04:49] <stefg> Psycode just edit the file with root privilegs and save it
[04:50] <the_conley> i dont think you can StingRay
[04:50] <psycode> stefg, anything i need to do for changes to take affect?
[04:50] <the_conley> that doesnt really make sense at all...
[04:50] <bulmer> StingRay: look for /etc/securetty or /etc/usertty  that may restrict such user login via tty
[04:51] <stefg> psycode: sudo ifdown eth*, sudo ifup eth*
[04:51] <stefg> or whatever your NIC is called
[04:51] <the_conley> ah, well yea
[04:51] <the_conley> ok theres that, forgot
[04:51] <the_conley> i thought you meant locally
[04:51] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Please help a n00b out! :) How do I find out if /boot/grub is on (hd0,0)... (hd1,0)...?
[04:52] <bulmer> UbuntuN00B_HBG: do an ls -la  /boot/grub
[04:52] <the_conley> you arent trying to restrict them to use graphical, just to log in locally
[04:52] <psycode> stefg, doesn't help :( is there a different way to check my current gateway? (not the config file itself)
[04:52] <bulmer> and find the file called menu.lst
[04:52] <ken> hello!
[04:52] <ken>  Please help:Firefox doesn't remember passwords for mail.yahoo.com. I checked that yahoo.com was not placed in edit>preferences>security>password-exceptions and it is NOT still firefox never asks me when i enter a userid/password whether it wants to remember the password or not (this happens only for yahoo.com, on other sites firefox happily asks me whether it should remember the password or not).
[04:52] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> bulmer: thnx! trying it now!
[04:52] <stefg> psycode: there's a GUI-applet for it in System-Admin-Network
[04:53] <psycode> stefg, that's a bit of a problem since i can only access its shell :\
[04:53] <ollekalle> anyone have an idea on why I have a 3-pin connector on my new PCI card and how shall use it?
[04:53] <bulmer> UbuntuN00B_HBG: also try the mount command and it should show which /dev/haXX is your /  on
[04:53] <StingRay> I will check them bulmer. Thanks
[04:53] <stefg> psycode: no, then all you can do is edit the config-file
[04:54] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> bulmer: well... did it... (Ive edited menu.lst to change the grub background splash) but I dont find any (hd0,0)...
[04:54] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> bulmer: ok
[04:54] <diminthedam> hey folks! just installed windows over my ubuntu, as a dual boot. Can someone guide me through correctly restoring the GRUB, whilst presering the windows install, please?
[04:54] <stefg> psycode: but a reboot should fix it, if the gateway is right then
[04:54] <KDan> man!... i can't even seem to get the wired connection working!
[04:55] <psycode> stefg, k thx
[04:56] <drivera90> So, does anyone here know of any Ubuntu-compatible GameBoy Advance emulators?
[04:56] <indypende> hi!
[04:56] <Blissex> !grub
[04:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:56] <Blissex> diminthedam: the link above probably helps...
[04:56] <indypende> someone can help me writing a line in /etc/fstab for an ext3 partition?
[04:56] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> bulmer: well... 'mount -l' tells me that /boot is on dev/sda1 but nothing more...
[04:56] <diminthedam> ubotu: i have read the 1st guide, but i dont know which of thise options keeps the windows booting as well
[04:56] <Blissex> indypende: surely someone could, but you could just look for examples.
[04:57] <Blissex> diminthedam: probably all of them :-)
[04:57] <indypende> Blissex, sorry
[04:57] <indypende> i read a lot of documentation
[04:57] <indypende> but i don't know
[04:57] <bulmer> UbuntuN00B_HBG: and what does your /boot/grub/menu.lst tells you about hd0 ?
[04:57] <Blissex> diminthedam: in any case getting GRUB to boot a MS Windows partition is two lines...
[04:58] <Blissex> indypende: surely you have an 'ext3' line in your existing '/etc/fstab' Just change the first two columns.
[04:58] <doopsie> can someone teach me how to install gspcav1-20061216.tar.gz 2 from http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca50x/Download/ ? it's suppose to be the driver for the inbult webcam in my laptop. i extracted it already, but cannot seem to find a readme or install file
[04:58] <psycode> stefg, a reboot did the job :) thanks!
[04:58] <stefg> np
[04:58] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> bulmer: ok... so I should be able to read it out in that file...? ok!
[04:58] <indypende> Blissex, i have the root partition only
[04:58] <Blissex> indypende: ahhhhh
[04:59] <stefg> doopsie: that's simply too complex if you never compiled before...
[04:59] <diminthedam> blissex: ??
[04:59] <doopsie> sigh. are there general instructions lying around somewhere?
[04:59] <Blissex> indypende: anyhow it will be something like '/dev/SOMETHING /mnt/SOMETHIN2 ext3 default 0 1'
[04:59] <indypende> Blissex, i want the partition to be readeable and writeable for every user
[05:00] <Two-Si1> hello
[05:00] <goqsane> Hello, how can I mount a CD/DVD disk on my Ubuntu Live CD in order to burn things on them? (Nautilius-cd-burner asks me to put the CD into the drive, despite it's already there)
[05:01] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> bulmer: well, it SEEMS like its in (hd0,0), and Ive added the line 'splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/36907-Blu.xpm.gz' but it doesnt work
[05:01] <indypende> Blissex, i know the bases of fstab
[05:01] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> bulmer: the filename is correct
[05:01] <ken> exit
[05:02] <Blissex> indypende: that you cannot do via '/etc/fstab', but via UNIX style permissions.
[05:02] <RedShift> what
[05:02] <RedShift> there's no /etc/resolv.conf??
[05:02] <ambros> Hi all
[05:02] <stefg> doopsie: First of all you've got to set up all the tools necessary (40-50 MB download) then you need all the dev-packages for sdl and sdl itself, set that up... then you need checkinstall... then you need to compile and package up a driver module.. install that... see what i mena?
[05:02] <Infeliz> :-F
[05:02] <Blissex> indypende: do something like 'chmod a+rwxt' on the top directory in that filesystem.
[05:02] <indypende> Blissex, but there is a lot of options. defaults let only root write on the partition
[05:02] <orangefly> what's a good intranet IM for ubuntu server....???....
[05:03] <goqsane> well no ideas as to my problem? ;P
[05:03] <goqsane> how can I mount a CD/DVD disk on my Ubuntu Live CD in order to burn things on them? (Nautilius-cd-burner asks me to put the CD into the drive, despite it's already there)
[05:03] <Blissex> indypende: no, not at all. 'defaults' means to let anybody who has permission to write. If the top directory in that filesystem is owned by 'root' and writable only by 'root' then of course only 'root' can write to it.
[05:04] <Blissex> goqsane: you must not mount if you want to write or append.
[05:04] <Blissex> goqsane: if mounted (append) then unmount it first.
[05:04] <indypende> ok
[05:04] <Blissex> orangefly: Jabber is pretty cool.
[05:04] <wyatt_earp> greetings ... has any ever experience really really slow login times (like 20sec from providing username to password prompt) ?
[05:04] <RedShift> wyatt_earp: via ssh?
[05:04] <Two-Six> hello
[05:04] <Blissex> wyatt_earp: apparently <wyatt_earp> has :-).
[05:04] <wyatt_earp> yeah
[05:04] <orangefly> where do you download it....???....
[05:05] <goqsane> Blissex, yeah, but what kind of filetype should I specify in the mount command then?
[05:05] <wyatt_earp> yes Blissex
[05:05] <Blissex> orangefly: use Synaptic or 'aptitude'
[05:05] <Blissex> goqsane: no 'mount' for writing.
[05:05] <RedShift> wyatt_earp: check your dns settings
[05:05] <goqsane> oh, wait, so what must I do then Blissex ?
[05:05] <goqsane> it's not mounted apparently
[05:05] <goqsane> but it asks me to put a blank CD and doesn't detect it inside I think
[05:05] <Blissex> wyatt_earp: anyhow all SSH issues are easy do diagnose with 'ssh -v -v', tells you exactly.
[05:05] <goqsane> (as I try to retry)
[05:05] <Blissex> goqsane: then eject and reinsert.
[05:06] <wyatt_earp> i'm ssh-ing to the IP address though ... would that still be a problem ?
[05:06] <goqsane> done that :/
[05:06] <goqsane> hmm
[05:06] <indypende> Blissex, if i mount the partition in /media/data , how can i make /media data readable and writeable for normal user?
[05:06] <Blissex> goqsane: otherwise you may have *two* writers and Nautilus is using the wrong one.
[05:06] <orangefly> ty....
[05:06] <Blissex> indypende: as I mentioned, 'chmod a+rwxt /media/data'
[05:06] <RedShift> wyatt_earp: no but check the dns settings on the remote host (the host you're connecting to)
[05:06] <illu45> hi
[05:06] <wyatt_earp> ok
[05:07] <stefg> indypende: sudo chmod 777 /media/data
[05:07] <stefg> this means anyone can delete your data
[05:07] <goqsane> nope still doesn't see the disc and I have chosen the right burner (I only have one)
[05:07] <goqsane> :/
[05:07] <elyon> Good morning.
[05:07] <Blissex> stefg: that's why I added 't' to the permissions.
[05:07] <indypende> thanks all
[05:07] <Two-Six> hello
[05:07] <wyatt_earp> right now ... no DNS is working on that system Blissex
[05:08] <indypende> thanks Blissex stefg
[05:08] <elyon> Could someone please point me in the right direction to get my 3D card performing better in Ubuntu?  Right now even Google Earth is too slow to be usable.
[05:08] <Two-Six> I need help with madwifi, does anybody her know anything about this
[05:08] <Blissex> elyon: bad news -- it is only feasible if you got NVIDIA or a very few other models.
[05:08] <wyatt_earp> err ... not working i mean Blissex
[05:08] <goqsane> oh well, I'll try playing around
[05:08] <pouderStream> guys any clue how to install flashplayer in opera.In FF is working fine. rel: EdgyEft
[05:08] <goqsane> maybe I'll plug it in as master
[05:08] <goqsane> and not slave
[05:08] <goqsane> or something
[05:08] <goqsane> :/
[05:08] <elyon> Blissex, so my Radeon is pretty useless in Linux?
[05:08] <Two-Six> in fact in need help with lots of stuff
[05:08] <Blissex> Two-Six: try #wireless, but MADwifi is a bit of a mess.
[05:09] <Blissex> elyon: no, just a bit more complicated to setup.
[05:09] <elyon> ah
[05:09] <Two-Six> why do you say its a mess
[05:09] <Blissex> elyon: the ATI drivers for GNU/Linux are not quite as good as the NVIDIA ones.
[05:09] <Blissex> elyon: anyhow look at this:
[05:09] <Blissex> !ati
[05:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:09] <Aoirthoir> I LOVE UBUNTU!
[05:09] <Aoirthoir> Just thought I would let yall know
[05:09] <Two-Six> I mean it totally defeats me, and it does seem to be pretty hard to get it to work and can be dangerous
[05:09] <elyon> Thanks, Blissex.
[05:11] <Two-Six> how do you leave and join another channel?
[05:11] <LjL> Two-Six: /part, and /join #channel
[05:11] <Two-Six> thanks /part
[05:12] <LjL> stefg: no, that's used to kick a random user. or at least that's what the -offtopic topic often says
[05:13] <stefg> yup, that's what i was thinking of
[05:13] <shriphani> guys i notice a few changes in source-o-matic
[05:14] <stefg> shriphani: me, too....
[05:14] <shriphani> where is the security.ubuntu.com repository ?
[05:14] <LjL> uhm... at security.ubuntu.com?
[05:14] <LjL> is that a trick question? :P
[05:14] <Infeliz> lol
[05:14] <Infeliz> !sources
[05:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:15] <Infeliz> !easysource
[05:15] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:15] <shriphani> LjL, i didnt see that in source o matic
[05:15] <k0> anyone know how to change the gnome-panel default names like "applications" "places"
[05:15] <k0> ??
[05:15] <maynard> hello all
[05:15] <KDan> ok, so i can't seem to get the wired connection working either. for some reason the light remains orange at the back of my laptop. dhclient of course finds nothing. iconfig looks fine, except it of course doesn't have the dhcp details...
[05:15] <LjL> shriphani: well, yeah, it misses -updates too for that matter. i think that should be fixed
[05:16] <KDan> this is a connection that would work fine if i was in windows, so not quite sure why it should just not work under ubuntu
[05:16] <shriphani> my sources.list disappeared when i was trying to compile ffmpeg from source
[05:16] <shriphani> source-o-matic offers 6 repos now
[05:17] <LjL> shriphani: well   deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse
[05:17] <LjL> (if you have universe and multiverse, that is)
[05:17] <n2diy> k0: yes, right click on them, and select prefrences.
[05:17] <shriphani> erm i am using dapper
[05:17] <maynard> Does any one have time to point me in the right direction for getting dual displays to work on the live CD?
[05:17] <n2diy> k0: yes, right click on them, and select preferences.
[05:17] <stefg> KDan: it was found that due to a timing problem during boot, the dhcp-request sometimes is mad before the interface is up... try a manual 'sudo dhclient' and see if you get a lease then
[05:17] <hikenboot> hello all---can anyone tell me what the advantage of using ltsp instead of just xnest sessions thru X window
[05:18] <k0> n2diy:there no options to select prefences
[05:18] <KDan> stefg: nerp. it tries a bunch of diferent "interval"s and then fails
[05:18] <KDan> all the while through it complains that "Network is down"
[05:18] <k0> but there is edit menu
[05:18] <tale_> with vim using Fedora it remembers the last place I edited in a file and when I reopen the file, it puts the cursor back on the last line that I edited.  Does anyone know what option this is that I need to enable?  Ubuntu doesn't enable it by default.
[05:18] <k0> but that doesnt have a way of editing the names
[05:19] <n2diy> k0: are you using Dapper?
[05:19] <k0> just to select what u want see to in the menu
[05:19] <k0> no edgy
[05:19] <indypende> Blissex, hi
[05:19] <kbg_20> hi! i just installed edgy..and am not happy with firefox 2..would like to downgrade to 1.5.. downloaded the tar and running from mozilla site. extracting and running the firefox executable inside that folder shows up the following error : "./run-mozilla.sh: 424: ./firefox-bin: not found" while firefox-bin is well and truly there.. whats happening? :-/ am using edgy amd64
[05:19] <indypende> Blissex, i do the sudo chmod 777 /media/data
[05:20] <n2diy> k0: ok that explains it, another reason to stick with Dapper.
[05:20] <k0> thought u could use gconf-editor
[05:20] <indypende> Blissex, but i can't write on the directory as normal user
[05:20] <k0> but cant find anything helpfull
[05:20] <Blissex> indypende: it was almost the same but better to do 'sudo chmod a+rwxt /media/data'
[05:20] <shriphani> erm can some benevolent user pastebin me his sources.list (dapper)
[05:20] <[pwned] > HELP!!!!
[05:21] <Blissex> indypende: note that you said the filesystem was 'ext3'...
[05:21] <stefg> !easysource | shriphani
[05:21] <ubotu> shriphani: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:21] <indypende> Blissex, ext3
[05:21] <KDan> stefg: no other ideas?
[05:21] <diminthedam> Blissex: i reinstalled the grub, but now i cant get windows to load
[05:21] <Blissex> indypende: so it *must* work as indicated.
[05:21] <scheuri> hi all
[05:21] <Blissex> diminthedam: two lines:
[05:21] <stefg> KDan: firmware or driver not there?
[05:21] <[pwned] > how do i upgrade to 6.10 if i dont have a disk?
[05:21] <shriphani> stefg, erm i miss a few repos using source-o-matic
[05:21] <diminthedam> blissex: what does that mean?
[05:21] <shriphani> like security.blah blah
[05:22] <k0> blissex:not pointing to the right windows patiton
[05:22] <KDan> hmm
[05:22] <scheuri> anyone know "the" alternative for Konversation within Gnome?
[05:22] <diminthedam> blissex: ok, but how do i change it?
 anyone know "the" alternative for Konversation within Gnome? -->xchat
[05:22] <scheuri> meng: thanks
[05:22] <Blissex> diminthedam: 'title MS Windows' and 'chainload (hdN)+1'
[05:22] <Blissex> diminthedam: 'title MS Windows' and 'chainloader (hdN)+1'
[05:22] <stefg> shriphani: dapper or edgy?
[05:22] <diminthedam> blissex: where do i do this? in grub command line?
[05:23] <scheuri> anyone know if there is a chance to "convert" all mails and structure of Kmail to Evolution?
[05:23] <Blissex> diminthedam: '/boot/grub/menu.lst'
[05:23] <tale_> [pwned] , change /etc/apt/sources.list so that all occurrences of dapper are edgy.  Then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:23] <shriphani> stefg dapper
[05:23] <Vegeta^> Does anyone know a good website filtering software? I tried seaching the Synaptic, but didn't find any.
[05:23] <stefg> k
[05:23] <kurei> hi, my java enterprise edition wont continue with its setup after executing the .bin... how do i go about?
[05:23] <tale_> Vegeta^,  squid
[05:23] <shadowhywind> i was wondering is there a easy way to upgrade from 32 to 64bit, without a full reinstall?
[05:23] <n2diy> scheuri: did you try import?
[05:23] <LjL> Vegeta^, what kind of 'filtering'?
[05:23] <kbg_20> shadowhywind, no
[05:24] <tale_> any vi experts in here?
[05:24] <mnoir> tale - yes but you might like #vim
[05:24] <scheuri> n2diy: as in import functions of Evolution? last time I checked there was no such option within Ubuntu 6.06 and its evolution...but I will check again
[05:24] <Vegeta^> LjL: Just blocking some certain websites (with password).
[05:24] <stefg> shriphani: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39336/ but point it away from the german mirrors... we are busy 'nuff over here :-)
[05:25] <Belisarivs> Hi. Could anyone help me with Prism wifi card?
[05:25] <n2diy> scheuri: ok, I don't use Evolution, so it was just a guess.
[05:25] <tale_> mnoir, I just want to know what setting to have vim remember the last edit in a file so when I reopen the file it puts the cursor back on that line
[05:25] <drivera90> So what do I do on Ubuntu when I want to game?
[05:25] <shriphani> stefg, so i change the german thingies to us or something ?
[05:25] <mnoir> tale - i don't know - more reason to go to #vim :)
[05:25] <shriphani> like de to us
[05:25] <blizzkid> Hello all. I still didn't manage to get my sound working after googling for a month, and trying every single suggested "solution". Anyone in here could help me out?
[05:25] <scheuri> n2diy: ah, okay...well...I am using maildir...so...but i have quite a good structure within Kmail which I dont want to loose
[05:25] <kbg_20> hi! how do i run firefox 1.5 in edgy? I dont like ff 2 at all :(
[05:25] <stefg> shriphani: simply edit out all the de. prefixes
[05:26] <shriphani> ok stefg
[05:26] <elyon> Well, Blissex - no luck with that.  Followed the instructions but still doesn't work... thanks, though.
[05:26] <timbobsteve> hey all
[05:26] <n2diy> scheuri: ok, I don't use Evolution, so good luck.
[05:26] <tritium> !sound > blizzkid
[05:26] <scheuri> n2diy: thanks...;)
[05:26] <Infeliz> this channel dont work...million questions at the sam time
[05:26] <Belisarivs> Could anyone help me with Prism wifi card?
[05:26] <Zaggynl> What directories make up the linux OS?
[05:26] <diminthedam> blissex: where in menu.1st do i put those lines?
[05:27] <LjL> !dansguardian | Vegeta^, although it doesn't seem to do precisely what you want
[05:27] <ubotu> dansguardian: Web content filtering. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0.6-antivirus-6.3.8-1-1 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 1464 kB
[05:27] <elyon> Zaggy, all of them :)
[05:27] <blizzkid> tritiu: thanks, but I've tried all of that too
[05:27] <Blissex> diminthedam: at the end usually.
[05:27] <Zaggynl> elyon, O.o apart from /home
[05:27] <blizzkid> tritium: thanks, but I've tried all of that too
[05:27] <kbg_20> Zaggynl, what makes you ask that may i know?
[05:27] <mnoir> Zaggynl: these -> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[05:27] <elyon> kbg - sounds like he's going to write a clevel "virus" that will delete those directorys? :)
[05:27] <[pwned] > tale_: it didnt work. i have a copy d/l but it wont run?
[05:28] <Belisarivs> Could anyone help me with Prism wifi card?
[05:28] <kbg_20> elyon, interesting idea ;) :D
[05:28] <KDan> ok, where are the modules i can insmod, on the ubuntu cd?
[05:28] <tale_> [pwned] , are you running dapper now?
[05:28] <LjL> Vegeta^: also i think most "normal" proxies will allow you to blacklist sites, though i don't know how many will let you set a password to still access them if you have it
[05:28] <[pwned] > yeah
[05:28] <orangefly> what's the best jabber client for a windows machine....???....
[05:29] <Vegeta^> LjL: I tried that, but couldn't succesfully install it due to some dependency problems.. Does Squid filter websites that way?
[05:29] <kbg_20> orangefly, i would say PSI
[05:29] <Zaggynl> kbg_20, friend of mine wonders how much ubuntu takes
[05:29] <Zaggynl> mnoir, thanks
[05:29] <aphexian> morning
[05:29] <kbg_20> Zaggynl, you mean a default install?
[05:29] <Zaggynl> kbg_20, yeah
[05:29] <waterpear> eh, a few gigs
[05:29] <LjL> Vegeta^: squid probably also makes the coffee for you... if you can configure it ;)
[05:29] <kbg_20> Zaggynl, around 2-2.5 gb i would say
[05:29] <[pwned] > tale_:how do i change to edgy?
[05:30] <Zaggynl> kbg_20, ah okay
[05:30] <tale_> [pwned] , please answer my question.  Are you running dapper right now
[05:30] <stefg> upgrade
[05:30] <stefg> !upgrade
[05:30] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:30] <[pwned] > tale_: yes
[05:30] <LjL> Vegeta^: proxies i've tried are wwwoffle and middleman. i think middleman has a few of that kind of options, and is relatively easy to setup, but IIRC it was a bit quirky
[05:30] <tale_> [pwned] , check out the instructions ubotu just mentioned
[05:31] <n2diy> !downgrade
[05:31] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[05:31] <sinisterguy> how do you blacklist modules in ubuntu?
[05:31] <LjL> Ubotu, tell sinisterguy about blacklist | sinisterguy, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:31] <nova> need help with mic. Recording program states, my audio capture setting are invalid, and to correct them. It was working before, now it wont. I checked to make sure my mic is on. Still nothing...
[05:31] <[pwned] > tale_: i am thanks
[05:31] <Vegeta^> LjL: Hehe ok, I'll try that. Is there 3rd party softwares for linx that can block?
[05:31] <Zaggynl> kbg_20, is that including swap and all?
[05:31] <nova> need help with mic. Recording program states, my audio capture setting are invalid, and to correct them. It was working before, now it wont. I checked to make sure my mic is on. Still nothing...
[05:31] <kbg_20> Zaggynl, no...
[05:31] <Zaggynl> hmm
[05:31] <stefg> !repeat | nova
[05:31] <ubotu> nova: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:32] <scheuri> anyone ever tried to convert KMail (mails and structure in maildir format) to Evolution?
[05:32] <vincenz> Hello everyone
[05:32] <waterpear> Vegeta^, technically, pretty much all software is third party
[05:32] <LjL> Vegeta^, possibly. i normally just stay in the safe realm of the repositories.
[05:32] <kbg_20> Zaggynl, exclude swap and boot..comes to 2-2.5 gb approx
[05:32] <waterpear> in linux
[05:32] <sinisterguy> LjL: thanks
[05:32] <LjL> and yeah, waterpear has a point ;)
[05:32] <vincenz> Hello, Anyone know how I can get tvout(s-video) to work with an ATI card? Additionally, if I want sound, do I still need to use the headphones or can I also send this through the s-video cable?
[05:32] <Zaggynl> kbg_20, ah okay
[05:33] <Blissex> vincenz: bad news usually.
[05:33] <vincenz> Blissex: oh?
[05:33] <Blissex> vincenz: look at the Gatos project though.
[05:33] <aphexian> [vincenz]  what kind of outputs does the card have?
[05:33] <shadowhywind> isn't s-video just video no sound
[05:33] <vincenz> Ok, so how do I get image onto my s-video output?
[05:34] <aphexian> you should be able to run an s-video cable from your tv to your ati card
[05:34] <aphexian> thats what i'm doing too
[05:34] <aphexian> but you won't get sound
[05:34] <shadowhywind> i would think treat it as a external monitor and just cycle through monitors
[05:34] <pupcia> zsssa
[05:34] <vincenz> aphexian: what do you need to do to set it up?
[05:35] <maynard> hi all
[05:35] <aphexian> all i did was set up my computer as normal with a montiro
[05:35] <aphexian> monitor
[05:36] <diminthedam> blissex: like this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39338/
[05:36] <maynard> Is there a relatively easy way to get dual displays working using the AMD64 live cd and an ATI card?
[05:36] <aphexian> then i turned the system off and set up my tv with the s-video out
[05:36] <Blissex> diminthedam: you need just the second line and split over two. and with "n" replaced by the number of the MS Windows partition.
[05:37] <Blissex> diminthedam: wait a second for a better exple.
[05:37] <vincenz> aphexian: could I see a copy of your xorg.conf?
[05:38] <aphexian> vincenz: i didn't change the xorg file at all
[05:38] <vincenz> aphexian: not even to get two monitors?
[05:38] <aphexian> ohhhhh, sorry, i'm not running two monitors
[05:38] <Blissex> diminthedam: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/BootMenu#How_to_add_Windows_entry_into_GRUB_menu
[05:39] <aphexian> member:vincenz i'm just running ubuntu throught my tv
[05:39] <vincenz> aphexian: oh right, so how do you switch to tv mode?
[05:39] <vincenz> oh!
[05:39] <vincenz> But how do you switch the card to the tvout (s-video)?
[05:39] <diminthedam> blissex: ok, last question,
[05:39] <diminthedam> blissex: how do i find what nuber the wind part is?
[05:40] <Blissex> diminthedam: anyhow you need to put '(hdN,M)+1' not use '+1' on the 'chainloader' line, just to be sure.
[05:40] <aphexian> vincenz: i didn't have to switch anything on the card. once the s-video cable was connected to the tv, i booted it up and everything worked fine
[05:40] <Blissex> diminthedam: do 'fdisk -l /dev/hd? | grep NTFS'
[05:40] <Blissex> diminthedam: do 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd? | grep NTFS'
[05:41] <Belisarivs> Could anyone help me with Prism wifi card?
[05:41] <vincenz> alright
[05:41] <vincenz> b
[05:41] <Blissex> Belisarivs: it should ''just work''. Try #wireless too.
[05:41] <Blissex> diminthedam: what does that command say?
[05:42] <joth> Can someone help me
[05:42] <joth> please?
[05:42] <diminthedam> blissex: no response
[05:42] <mitch__> hey guys, i wonder if someone could help me with a problem...i just installed the kde desktop and my wireless connection won;t work anymore...any ideas?
[05:42] <Blissex> diminthedam: you don't have a MS Windows partition :-)
[05:42] <Blissex> diminthedam: just in your imagination :-)
[05:42] <aphexian> joth: do you have a question?
[05:42] <maynard> Is there a relatively easy way to get dual displays working using the AMD64 live cd and an ATI card please?
[05:42] <diminthedam> blisex: but i do!
[05:42] <Blissex> diminthedam: try to do then 'sudo fdisk -l' and paste the reslt to the pastebin.
[05:43] <joth> I'm trying to partition my hard disk to install Windows on it, but I'm not sure how to without losing all the data on my laptop at the moment.
[05:43] <Blissex> maynard: yes.
[05:43] <diminthedam> blissex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39340/
[05:43] <joth> I only have one partition at the moment, which I can't change the size of while it's mounted.
[05:43] <Blissex> joth: if the disk has no free areas, bad news. It can be done, but you should not try to do it without a lot more knowledge.
[05:43] <maynard> Blissex:  :D  Can you point me in the right direction?
[05:43] <joth> Damn
 I only have one partition at the moment, which I can't change the size of while it's mounted. -->gparted live cd?
[05:44] <aphexian> joth: i've never had to do that but this link might help: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/05/08/dual-boot-laptop.html
[05:44] <kbg_20> meng,  but joth will still lose data right?
[05:44] <joth> If I reduce the size of this partition, will it lose any of the data on it?
[05:44] <ward_> you can resize the partitions
[05:44] <Blissex> diminthedam: it is partition '/dev/hda3' and it is a FAT32 partition.
 meng,  but joth will still lose data right? --> safer method is using a proprietary tool
[05:45] <ozfrog> hello - can i set the " numbers lock " button to ON at boot -time somewhere?
[05:45] <J-_> my cpu is running at 50c, is that good? -.-
[05:45] <J-_> I don't think it is, but i could be wrong
[05:45] <Blissex> joth: if you like to live dangerously, use a liveCD ad <meng> suggests and resize it.
[05:45] <meng> esp with NTFS is concerned
[05:45] <mitch__> hey guys, i wonder if someone could help me with a problem...i just installed the kde desktop and my wireless connection won;t work anymore...any ideas?
[05:45] <derFlo> what command do i need to start gnuboy-sdl (is the pakage name)?
[05:45] <ward_> mitch__; don't repeat
[05:45] <kbg_20> meng, exactly.. with gparted/fdisk resizing WILL involve losing data right?
[05:45] <Blissex> diminthedam: so you would have 'chainloader '(hd0,2)+1'
[05:45] <Blissex> diminthedam: so you would have 'chainloader (hd0,2)+1'
[05:46] <Blissex> kbg_20: not necessarily, but it is rather risky. Not totally reliable.
 meng, exactly.. with gparted/fdisk resizing WILL involve losing data right? --> kinda forgot parted use anyway, i've been using Partition Magic instead
[05:46] <kbg_20> Blissex, hmm..ok
[05:46] <ward_> mitch__: we need to know if its been detected type ifconfig and paste it to pastebin
[05:46] <kbg_20> meng, ok :)
[05:46] <sephirot1> hi, i have 2pcs connected together, but when I type ifconfig -a i cannot see the ethernet device.
[05:46] <sephirot1> Whats up with that? damaged hardware?
[05:47] <Blissex> kbg_20: 'parted' and 'gparted' will try to shrink the filesystem before shrinking the partition, but that is a bit tricky.
[05:47] <Blissex> kbg_20: it often works well. Depends on the filesystem.
[05:47] <sephirot1> anyone? :(
[05:47] <meng> Blissex> kbg_20: 'parted' and 'gparted' will try to shrink the filesystem before shrinking the partition, but that is a bit tricky. --> start praying if ya do?
[05:47] <mitch__> ward : is there any reason that would change from installing the kde desktop...it was working fine before i installed it?
[05:47] <Blissex> meng: yes... :-)
[05:48] <derFlo> what command do i need to start gnuboy-sdl (is the pakage name)?
[05:48] <derFlo> what command do i need to start gnuboy-sdl (is the pakage name)?
[05:48] <derFlo> what command do i need to start gnuboy-sdl (is the pakage name)?
[05:48] <ward_> mitch__; perhaps you need to configure the device again through ifconfig?
[05:48] <kbg_20> I have one question about write access by non-root users to mounted fat partitions... I tried using "rw,users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true" as mount options in fstab but did not work..?
[05:48] <Henry|> Hey there guys
[05:48] <Henry|> Is anyone here not busy at the moment?
[05:48] <Henry|> I'm finally getting into a linux based distribution after sitting on the idea for a year or two
[05:48] <Henry|> and I decided to go with Ubuntu as my first
[05:48] <Blissex> derFlo: usually, repeat your question not more often than every 5 minutes...
[05:48] <vincenz> aphexian: So you're saying that if you plug in the s-video cable it works auttomatically? I'd still like to see your xorg.conf if possible
[05:48] <kbg_20> Henry|, great! a warm welcome :)
[05:48] <derFlo> Blissex: nobody wants to help me :(
[05:49] <androxxl> hello can someone help me with apt-get update I got this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39319/
[05:49] <Henry|> Thanks, so anyways, here is my problem
[05:49] <sephirot1> Henry|: you took quite a long time sitting on it :P i just closed my eyes and dived into it :)
[05:49] <Henry|> After the initial splash screen after I hit (Where it says Start or install Ubuntu)
[05:49] <ambimom> henry: just talk in here LOL
[05:49] <Blissex> derFlo: you have to be patient and perhaps add more details to your question.
[05:49] <Henry|> it freezes on the loading screen
[05:49] <Henry|> where the bar bounces to the left and the right
[05:49] <diminthedam> blissex: like this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39341/
[05:49] <katarzyna> komercyjna
[05:49] <derFlo> Blissex: what details should you need?
[05:49] <erUSUL> androxxl: can you connect to other sites?
[05:49] <Henry|> I'm using an AMD 4400+ X2 64-Bit
[05:49] <ambimom> henry: after you press install?
 where the bar bounces to the left and the right --> are you on a high?
[05:49] <androxxl> yes
[05:49] <Henry|> I've tried the 32 bit and the 64 bit install
[05:49] <derFlo> Blissex: i ONLY want to know the command to start gnuboy-sdl..
[05:50] <Henry|> Meng: Nope
[05:50] <mitch__> ward: seems to be detected ok...there is no Network manager that come up though in kde
[05:50] <waterbear> derFlo, you want the command "sdlgnuboy"
[05:50] <Henry|> Ambimom: It's directly after the initial splash screen, but before you choose a language
[05:50] <Blissex> diminthedam: you don't need the 'root' and 'savedefault' lines, perhaps 'makeactive'.
[05:50] <siv0x> Can someone tell me the alsa or amixer command to set my Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS to my default sound card?
[05:50] <ambimom> henry: the problem may be 64 bit
[05:50] <derFlo> waterbear: maybe ill check it
[05:50] <Henry|> I tried both images
[05:50] <derFlo> waterbear: yes thats it thanks
[05:50] <waterbear> derFlo, I prefer visualboyadvance for gameboy emulation though
 Can someone tell me the alsa or amixer command to set my Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS to my default sound card? --> disable offending card in BIOS
[05:51] <ambimom> henry: have you tried loading just the live cd?  what happens?
[05:51] <diminthedam> blissez: ok, replaced with 'makeactive'. will try a reboot
[05:51] <Henry|> By livecd, do you mean the CD on which I burned the .iso onto?
[05:51] <ambimom> henry: if the live cd works, then it should install
[05:51] <siv0x> meng: its easier for me to do it this way, i just cant remember the cmd.
[05:51] <ambimom> henry: just try to use the live cd ...change boot and boot into live cd
[05:51] <ozfrog> hello - can i set the " numbers lock " button to ON at boot -time somewhere?
[05:52] <ambimom> henry: then try the applications
[05:52] <siv0x> meng: i'm not really having much of a problem untill i try to use my headphones.
[05:52] <Henry|> Ambimom: When you say livecd, are you reffering to the CD I burned the image onto?
[05:52] <Music_Shuffle> yeah
 meng: its easier for me to do it this way, i just cant remember the cmd. --> so the case is you got SB card and you have mobo with sound?
[05:52] <ambimom> henry: yes that's a live cd
[05:52] <ambimom> henry: if you can use the applications before installing, try it
[05:52] <Henry|> Ambimom: Alrighty, that's what I did. Let me list the steps I did to boot from it leading up to the freeze :)
[05:52] <siv0x> meng: well, actually my sound is fine, just when i use headphones/mic its like they arent even plugged in.
[05:53] <ambimom> henry: first see if you can use the applications....it may not be compatible with your system
[05:53] <ambimom> henry: other linuxes might be better for 64 bit amd
[05:53] <Henry|> Ambimom: I restarted the computer and pressed F8 to bring up the bios. I then chose to boot from my optical disk in which my live cd resides in. That brought me to the splash screen of Ubuntu. After I hit "Start or install ubuntu" it freezes at the next loading screen
 checked the sound panel?
[05:53] <Henry|> Ambimom: How can I use the applications before installing?
 is all the offending volumes up and not muted?
[05:54] <ambimom> henry: yes you can use the applications before installing
[05:54] <siv0x> meng: were can i check this at, all i've checked is the alsamixer in terminal.
[05:54] <Henry|> Ambimom: how?
[05:54] <Theodor> Henry, reset your bios. I had that problem.
[05:54] <Theodor> Your screen is turning freaky white, yes?
 meng: were can i check this at, all i've checked is the alsamixer in terminal. --> i was refering to the GUI sound mixer, either in Gnome or KDE
[05:54] <Henry|> Theodor: It stopped freezing at the loading screen where the bar went from the left to the right?
[05:54] <ambimom> henry: see the applications icon at the top of the screen?
[05:55] <Music_Shuffle> Edgy 64 works fine for almost everything. ./Shrug.
[05:55] <Henry|> Theodor: With the 32 bit installation the colors are normal but it freezes afte rthe splash screen. On the 64 bit installation the colors are black and white
[05:55] <Henry|> Ambimom: I'm currently in windows
[05:55] <Henry|> I'm trying to install it on my second hard drive
[05:55] <siv0x> meng: oh. no i've not checked that.
[05:55] <ambimom> henry:  you can't
[05:55] <katarzyna> 
[05:55] <ambimom> henry:  you can dual boot on your primary
[05:55] <katarzyna> aplikacja
[05:55] <Music_Shuffle> You can if you change boot order, can't you?
[05:56] <ambimom> henry:  first see if ubuntu is compatible with your system...boot into cd again and try the applications
[05:56] <diminthedam> blissex: that worked a charm! thanks a million!
[05:56] <Henry|> Ambimom: I can't get to the desktop
[05:56] <Henry|> I can only get to the splash screen
[05:56] <ambimom> ozfrog:  he's noobie
[05:56] <Blissex> diminthedam: good, good!
[05:57] <ambimom> henry: are you using cd? or image of cd?
[05:57] <ozfrog> ambimom I.C just arived
[05:57] <Music_Shuffle> Henry|, so when you boot the LiveCD, you only get to the splash screen?
[05:57] <Henry|> I'm using a CD
[05:57] <Henry|> Music: Yup
[05:57] <ambimom> henry:  you change the boot order of your computer?
[05:57] <Music_Shuffle> Err...stupid question perhaps, but how long have you waited?
[05:57] <Henry|> Ambimom: If you mean by booting from my optical drive (so itll boot from disk) yes
[05:57] <Music_Shuffle> If he hadn't, he wouldn't see the splash...
[05:58] <Henry|> Is there anyway to boot on my second hard drive so I can install Ubuntu on that one?
[05:58] <ambimom> henry: and you can't get to the desktop?
[05:58] <Henry|> Ambimom: Nope
[05:58] <Henry|> Ambimom: I presume that is after the splash screen
[05:58] <siv0x> meng: would it be something like asoundconf list  then asound set-default-card <card> ?
[05:58] <Music_Shuffle> Yes
[05:58] <ambimom> henry: then your iso is defective or you can't use ubuntu on your system
[05:58] <javb> Installed Xgl/Compiz .. didnt like it.. removed it and placed the backup files (xorg.conf and /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom) to their original place. but when starting GDM, it says "No servers were defined in the configuration file and XDMCP was disable. This can only be a configuration error. GDM has started a single server for you. You should log in and fix the configuration. Note that automatic and timed logins are disable." Any idea why this is appearing. I hi
[05:58] <Music_Shuffle> Splash --> Desktop
[05:58] <javb> t ENTER on that message and starts normally. just with a weird login manager. (Ubuntu Edgy)
[05:58] <Henry|> Music: Ah
[05:59] <calvarez> ubotu, flash
[05:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
 meng: would it be something like asoundconf list  then asound set-default-card <card> ? --> go ask someone else then, i could help in GUI space though
[05:59] <ambimom> henry: if you're in the desktop....try to use applications
[05:59] <Music_Shuffle> Henry|, and you've tried >1 disk and you're burning the iso's correctly?
[05:59] <Henry|> Ambimom: Yeah, no luck there because I can't get to the desktop
[05:59] <Music_Shuffle> He can't get into the desktop...
[05:59] <martoss> how can i disable the check size_t is signed while running configure?
[06:00] <Henry|> Music: I first accidently used a CD image with a DVD. That didn't boot at all. Then I tried the 32 bit image. That froze after splash screen during loading
[06:00] <Henry|> Music: I then tried the 64 bit image with a CD
[06:00] <Henry|> Music: Same freezing point, but black and white colors
[06:00] <Music_Shuffle> Hmm.
[06:00] <Henry|> Music: My CPU is a AMD 4400+ X2 64
[06:00] <siv0x> meng: its fine, i got it, but were can i locate the GUI space at?
[06:00] <Music_Shuffle> How long have you waited at the splash btw?
[06:00] <apixelatedoffice> hello, I'm having a hard time with my sound configuration... I have what looks like a fancy sound card in the back... and a mic and phone in the front of my computer.  Anyways, I'll start with a simple question... which is going to utilize my sound for "live mixing" on my computer?... device via 8237 (Alsa mixer) ... OR realtek ALC850 rev 0 (OSS mixer)... I don't care about drivers or anything, I just want to know which devic
[06:00] <apixelatedoffice> e can "do the most"... like, which device is more expensive and better technology.  thanks in advance.
[06:00] <Henry|> Music: You mean to wait for the counter to go down to 0 if I dont touch anything?
Gnome or KDE?
[06:01] <Henry|> :D
[06:01] <Henry|> Sorry for the hassle
[06:01] <Music_Shuffle> Henry|, like...if you click, nothing happens as well?
[06:01] <siv0x> meng: KDE
[06:01] <ambimom> henry: it's probably 64 bit that is causing problem, but others have installed it okay...i just not able to help
[06:02] <mluser-work> anybody know when ubuntu plans to update clamav, mine has been complaining for two weeks that its out of date
[06:02] <ambimom> henry:  good luck though
[06:02] <Henry|> Music: Just so we're on the same page (I may not be)
[06:02] <Henry|> Thanks
[06:02] <Theodor> Henry|, have you downloaded the AMD version ?
lower right hand, there's this speaker icon? isnt?
[06:02] <Henry|> Music: The splash screen is when it says "Check CD for errors" or "Memory" or "Start or Install Ubuntu" right?
[06:02] <ambimom> theodor:  yikes, that's probably it!
[06:02] <Henry|> Theodor: Yup
[06:02] <Henry|> Yeah, I did
[06:02] <ward_> Henry|: you can always try gentoo
right clicky on that and pop the option for the mixer
[06:02] <Music_Shuffle> Doesn't really matter, the edgy kernel is the !generic one.
[06:02] <Theodor> Man, your problem is the exact copy of mine when I was trying to install Ubuntu.
[06:03] <Henry|> Theodor: Heh
[06:03] <libervisco> Where is the gnashplugin in Ubuntu gnash package?
[06:03] <Henry|> Theodor: What's your CPU?
[06:03] <Music_Shuffle> Henry|, have you tried...the alternate install CD?
[06:03] <siv0x> meng: k i found it
[06:03] <Henry|> Music: Alternate install CD?
[06:03] <libervisco> or.. how do I install gnash in firefox?
[06:03] <Theodor> All I did is I reset the bios, it was something that has to do with the resolution.
[06:03] <Music_Shuffle> Yes.
[06:03] <Henry|> Music: I'm not familiar with it
[06:03] <siv0x> meng: any control i need to turn up just to get my headset working right? or lower maybe too
[06:03] <Theodor> Intel Centrino 1.7 GHZ.
[06:03] <Henry|> Theodor: I am running in wide screen, if that's making any difference
[06:03] <Music_Shuffle> There's an alternate install that's primarily text-based if I'm not mistaken.
[06:03] <Swede> how do I configure ubuntu to send audio to the coaxial s/pdif contact?
[06:03] <Music_Shuffle> I'd say try that one, you might be able to get that working.
[06:03] <Henry|> Will do
 check if wave and master is up
[06:03] <Theodor> Henry|, my installation WORKED when I resotred it to wide screen ;p
[06:03] <Music_Shuffle> :)
[06:04] <apixelatedoffice> aside from the drivers, which is better technology... my realtek OSS mixer ... OR my via ALSA mixer?
[06:04] <Henry|> Theodor: Heh
[06:04] <Theodor> When I had it smaller, it never worked.
[06:04] <Henry|> Theodor: What was your exact problem, CPU, and ISO used?
[06:04] <Henry|> Theodor: Did you get a black and white screen when using a 64 bit iso, even though your CPU is 64 bit?
[06:04] <Theodor> I was installing the 32bit.
[06:05] <Henry|> ah
[06:05] <Henry|> What CPU do you have?
[06:05] <siv0x> meng: they are
[06:05] <Theodor> Whatever I chose, I had my computer crash and the monitor went white with freaky effects.
[06:05] <Henry|> yikes
[06:05] <Theodor> Intel Centrino 1.7 GHZ "laptop"
[06:05] <Henry|> 32 bit?
[06:05] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[06:05] <Theodor> ouip
[06:05] <gansinho> please, how do I save the output of a command in a .txt file, for example the output of dmesg, which is very large
[06:05] <Music_Shuffle> !pastebin
[06:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:06] <Swede> how do I configure ubuntu to use the digital sound output?
[06:06] <Theodor> gansinho, use |
[06:06] <n2diy> gansinho: dmesg is a text file.
 is the speaker icon below each one has no big cross on it?
[06:06] <Henry|> So will it be possibile to boot up Ubuntu in Disc D, while Windows is in Disc C?
[06:06] <Swede> hmm, perhaps i should get some drivers for my motherboard...
sry, above
[06:06] <Henry|> so I won't have to partition anything
[06:06] <Theodor> Henry|, yes. That's what I did.
[06:07] <siv0x> meng: i'm having no trouble with sound, accept when i use my headset i get a little static, and my mic doesnt work
[06:07] <Henry|> Theodor: Como?
[06:07] <Music_Shuffle> Assuming yo uhave enough space, yeah.
[06:07] <Theodor> Como ?
[06:07] <slacker_nl> gansinho: dmesg > output saved or dmesg | less
[06:07] <Henry|> Music: shouldn't be a problem
[06:07] <Henry|> Theodor: How :p
[06:07] <Theodor> HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
[06:07] <Henry|> Theodor: Is it pretty straight forward after the splash screen?
[06:07] <Theodor> Henry|, yes.
[06:07] <Henry|> Theodor: Will it just ask me what drive I want to install it to?
[06:07] <gansinho> n2diy, I want to do something like "dmesg xyz name" and doing that, instead of seeing the output in the terminal, it would save for me in a txt file named "name"
[06:07] <Henry|> Theodor: The only OS I have installed are just windows and mac
 meng: i'm having no trouble with sound, accept when i use my headset i get a little static, and my mic doesnt work --> do the same, cept this time for the Mic options
[06:07] <Maheanuu> Are there any Raid5 people in here this morning?
[06:07] <Theodor> yeah baby
[06:07] <Henry|> Alrighty
[06:07] <Theodor> you need 2 have 2 though. One for swap, the other for the root /
[06:07] <Gacoment> hello
[06:08] <Theodor> you need to have 2***
[06:08] <Henry|> Absolutely no idea what you mean by that, but alright
[06:08] <Theodor> sorry, my finger tips are freezing.
[06:08] <n2diy> gansinho: look in /var/log and you should see dmesg stored there.
 do keep the mute on tho, no one loves echos, cept maybe hippies on a high
[06:08] <gansinho> n2diy, thanks
[06:08] <n2diy> ganadist: nada
[06:08] <siv0x> meng: lmao
[06:08] <Theodor> Any of you know where I can find a decent C++ compiler ?
[06:09] <LjL> !gcc | Theodor
[06:09] <ubotu> Theodor: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:09] <siv0x> meng: not sure, um can i just pm you and we can talk about this, this is so annoying
[06:09] <nova> Ok, my recording program captures my voice, but in teamspeak no one hears me...? any thoughts?
[06:09] <fromvega> Yo guys
[06:09] <Gacoment> Boy, what's the difference between Xgl and Xgl CVS?
[06:09] <Theodor> mewh, I want to write C++ programs ...
[06:09] <Maheanuu> I am trying to get dapper to recognize a bios created raid5 array, and it isn't showing a multidisk
[06:09] <LjL> Theodor: GCC is the GNU Compiler Collection, including a C compiler, a C++ compilers and others, and it's certainly considered much more than 'decent' by most
[06:09] <vincenz> yes it is
[06:09] <Theodor> I see, thanks.
[06:09] <vincenz> especially from 4.0
[06:09] <n2diy> Gacoment: CVS stands for Concurrent Versioning System, it is the latest version.
[06:09] <fromvega> Anybody knows the comand with the "alt" key, to make a "?" ?  eg. release "alt" + [somenumber] 
[06:10] <LjL> Theodor: all programs you have on your system that were written in C++ were compiled using GCC (specifically, G++ is the GCC C++ compiler)
[06:10] <Theodor> Interesting.
[06:10] <n2diy> fromvega, google fo ascii codes.
[06:10] <n2diy> fromvega, google for ascii codes.
[06:11] <Theodor> fromvega, go to your Character map
[06:11] <Theodor> you can find everything there.
[06:11] <Gacoment> n2diy, is it stable?
[06:12] <n2diy> Gacoment: maybe, it is experimental, bugs get fixed quickly.
[06:12] <fromvega> I'm asking it coz my keyboard, after the ubuntu installation, the key "?/" is not working, just this key, this is not the keyboard coz i've tested some, and appears the same problem. Anyone knows a solution for it?
[06:12] <Theodor> Okay, this is a really stupid question but how can I download GCC?
[06:12] <Gacoment> n2diy, very well, thanks :D
[06:12] <Theodor> I go to mirror sites and then what ?
~uguuuuuu, see PM
[06:13] <mascanho> anyone using macmenu applet for gnome ?
[06:13] <n2diy> Theodor: click on system-admin-synaptic, search for gcc, mark it for install, and then click on apply.
[06:14] <yccheok> hi, anyone here familiar with launchpad?
[06:14] <Theodor> n2diy, my Ubuntu box is not connected to the Internet.
[06:14] <uu> hi, can anybody help: kernel crash when doing suspend to ram _second_ time (possibly hotplug cpu problem?) ?
[06:14] <n2diy> Theodor: Bummer.
[06:14] <calvarez> question! after installing the Adobe Flash plugin for firefox, firefox now crashes whenever I go to a flash site (I tried youtube and homestarrunner). Any ideas?
[06:15] <kris> siema
[06:15] <kris> jest ktos  polski
[06:15] <LjL> Theodor: it's explained in the page Ubotu gave you. you need to install the build-essential package.
[06:15] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Theodor about software | Theodor, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:15] <TooR4u> hi i want to change my samba passwd ... But it is displaying the error ""Could not connect to machine 127.0.0.1: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[06:15] <TooR4u> Failed to change password for sri
[06:15] <TooR4u> what is the problem?
[06:15] <n2diy> Theodor: can you get a friend to do that for you, then you could grab his .deb, and move it to your machine?
[06:16] <Pirate-king> good question calvarez
[06:16] <LjL> !offline | Theodor
[06:16] <ubotu> Theodor: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, http://apt.byethost14.com/ may help you with determining which dependencies to fetch and calculating download sizes
[06:16] <Theodor> Okay, thanks LjL.
[06:16] <Theodor> Time to read =)
[06:16] <Swede> how do you remove the loginscreen, login in automaticly without writing password and gaining all administator rights?
[06:16] <dredhammer> hello seasons greetings, i'm trying to install Edgy on a desktop but there is a problem , its one of the older motherboards that doesn't have a built in lan adapter so it uses wireless networking and for some reason the live disk does not recognize the adapter (its a linksys wireless usb adapter)
[06:16] <Gacoment> n2diy, i am dapper. I find this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131253. is it good?
[06:16] <Gacoment> *have
[06:16] <Gacoment> :p
[06:17] <JosefK> !root > Swede
[06:17] <n2diy> Gacoment: let me take a look at it.
[06:17] <Music_Shuffle> 'I am dapper' XD
[06:17] <Infeliz> yes u are dapper
[06:17] <Gacoment> :D
[06:17] <Gacoment> excuse me , but i am italian
[06:17] <Gacoment> :p
[06:17] <skukza> dredhammer, you need to install drivers for wireless to work using ndiswrapper
[06:17] <skukza> google it
[06:17] <Swede> huh, writing that in a terminal or what?
[06:17] <dredhammer> how am i to install if theres no internet connection to get the ndswrapper?
[06:17] <yccheok> hi, anyone here familiar with launchpad?
[06:17] <LjL> Swede: how to ask for trouble, in other words? https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/desktopguide/tr/desktop-tips.html
[06:18] <Maheanuu> I have been working almost 2 weeks trying to set up a raid array and install Dapper on it, but when dapper starts the install, it sees each drive individually, and not as a multidisc array...  I have not been able to get past this as it keeps installing on hda
[06:18] <LjL> Swede: writing what in terminal?
[06:18] <duncan_> Hello: I'v just downloaded 2,3GB zip file and when trying to unzip it I get error:  invalid compressed data to inflate. Please tell me there is some way to fix it despite downloading it again.
[06:18] <cacti> is there support for direct rendering for an ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X ? I've searched the wiki and forums, and I don't see much information. Running Dapper Drake
[06:18] <dredhammer> does the edgy disc come with ndiswrapper?
[06:18] <noelferreira> hi people! hi have a ati graphic card sharing main memory? how can i configure the amount of memory of the graphic card?
[06:18] <Maheanuu> If anyone has any ideas I would greatly appreciate a pm so that we could walk thru this together
[06:18] <dredhammer> so just doing apt-get would install?
[06:19] <n2diy> Gacoment: I'm not familiar with XGL, just CVS, that is why I answered your CVS question.
[06:19] <Music_Shuffle> !ndiswrapper
[06:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:19] <Music_Shuffle> dredhammer, looked for it in Synaptic?
[06:19] <krups> amd64 edgy - eclipse package not working.
[06:19] <skukza> he diesnt have access to the internet without it irconic eh
[06:20] <Gacoment> n2diy, i have ati x700 mobility! is it work?
[06:20] <n2diy> Gacoment: I don't know, I don't know anything about XGL.
[06:20] <ceacro> hello world
[06:21] <Swede> hello ceacro
[06:21] <ceacro> you are so kind
[06:21] <Gacoment> n2diy, but xgl has potenzial graphic use :P
[06:22] <dredhammer> i don't kknow if it is in the edgy standard disc or if i might need to download the edgy dvd to have it
[06:22] <n2diy> Gacoment: good for it!?
[06:22] <ceacro> what version of ubuntu do you have folks?
[06:22] <Music_Shuffle> Edgy 64.
[06:23] <ceacro> I see
[06:23] <n2diy> Dapper
[06:23] <ceacro> I have MEPIS
[06:23] <Gacoment> n2diy, yes i am interesting to activate the potenzial cube
[06:23] <Gacoment> XD
[06:23] <siv0x> anyone knwo how to setup a mic/headset that could help me out?
[06:23] <ceacro> it is a mixed ubuntu
[06:23] <Music_Shuffle> Gacoment, no AIGLX?
[06:23] <ceacro> with Debian
[06:23] <Gacoment> Music_Shuffle, i have dapper :p
[06:23] <duncan_> Hello: I'v just downloaded 2,3GB zip file and when trying to unzip it I get error:  invalid compressed data to inflate. Please tell me there is some way to fix it despite downloading it again.
[06:23] <Music_Shuffle> Ahh nvm then.
[06:24] <ceacro> I have tried a lot of distros around
[06:24] <ceacro> this is the best to me
[06:24] <n2diy> Gacoment: good luck, I can't help you.
[06:25] <siv0x> I just installed Teamspeak and i cant hear anyones mic, my mic is like its muted and my headset sounds aweful, the bass is going through my subwoofer instead of coming through my headset.
[06:25] <ceacro> SIMPLY MEPIS can be downloades from its own home site
[06:25] <siv0x> Can anyone help me set this up?
[06:25] <lcatta> I am trying to get my wireless card working, and when I run lshw to see if the device is there it is listed, but it is listed as DISABLED. Does anyone know how to resolve this problem?
[06:25] <Gacoment> n2diy, are there multilanguage translations for ubuntu ?
 si senor
[06:25] <n2diy> ubotu Italian
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Italian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <Gacoment> no
[06:26] <n2diy> ubotu language
[06:26] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:26] <LjL> !italian is <alias> it
[06:26] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[06:26] <LjL> anyway that wasn't italian
[06:26] <Swede> great, now it wont boot, get error 21 when grub is loading
[06:26] <Gacoment> n2diy, exsist programm for traduction in multilanguage?
[06:26] <n2diy> ubotu: italian
[06:26] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:26] <ceacro> yes of course
[06:27] <siv0x> anyone know how to setup a mic/headset that could help me out?
[06:27] <siv0x> I just installed Teamspeak and i cant hear anyones mic, my mic is like its muted and my headset sounds aweful, the bass is going through my subwoofer instead of coming through my headset.
time to stop smoking weed?
[06:28] <siv0x> meng: Never
[06:28] <JosefK> has anyone managed to get TRAMP working with emacs-snapshot?
[06:28] <ceacro> trivia questionnarie
[06:28] <noelferreira> hi people! hi have a ati graphic card sharing main memory? how can i configure the amount of memory of the graphic card?
[06:28] <Music_Shuffle> Err...what does that relate? Lol.
[06:28] <JosefK> it seems to ignore all flavours of emacs that aren't GNU emacs21
[06:29] <ceacro> what is the main advantage of having linux installed on the HH?
[06:29] <lcatta> I am trying to get my wireless card working, and when I run lshw to see if the device is there it is listed, but it is listed as DISABLED. Does anyone know how to resolve this problem?
[06:29] <Gacoment> n2diy, in the italian chan they are bullshit
[06:30] <LjL> !language | Gacoment
[06:30] <ubotu> Gacoment: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:30] <ceacro> it is very simple
[06:30] <JosefK> no emacs bods in here *sighs*
[06:30] <Gacoment> LjL, language?
[06:30] <LjL> Gacoment: "bullshit" is not a nice word.
[06:30] <lord_nicon> Hi all
[06:30] <ceacro> the main advantage of having LINUX installed on the hard disk is:......
[06:30] <n2diy> Gacoment: I can't do anything about that.
[06:30] <Music_Shuffle> Hi0.
[06:30] <Gacoment> yes i know it
[06:30] <Gacoment> :p
[06:30] <ceacro> VIRUS FREE LOL
[06:30] <lord_nicon> I got problem, I got Kubuntu for 64-bit PC... Ale I wan't to install Wine, is it possible?
[06:31] <Nap> hi
[06:31] <Gacoment> n2diy, you create a virus for them pc
[06:31] <LjL> Gacoment: well, don't use swear words here.  anyway if you need help and can't speak english well, query me, and i will translate
[06:31] <lord_nicon> I got problem, I got Kubuntu for 64-bit PC... Ale I wan't to install Wine, is it possible?
[06:31] <ceacro> habla en espaol pues
[06:31] <LjL> !es | ceacro
[06:31] <ubotu> ceacro: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:31] <n2diy> Gacoment: I can't do anything about that either.
[06:32] <Gacoment> LjL, ok
[06:32] <lord_nicon> Again: I got problem, I got Kubuntu for 64-bit PC... Ale I wan't to install Wine, is it possible?
[06:32] <lord_nicon> q;
[06:32] <ceacro> 2nd question
[06:32] <ceacro> what is AUTOMATIX?
[06:32] <Music_Shuffle> !automatix
[06:32] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:32] <lord_nicon> Can any1 help me?
[06:32] <Gacoment> n2diy, i can it, but you know translator programm for ubuntu?
[06:32] <Music_Shuffle> lord_nicon, err...with what again?
[06:32] <lord_nicon> Again: I got problem, I got Kubuntu for 64-bit PC... Ale I wan't to install Wine, is it possible?
[06:32] <ceacro> very good
[06:32] <lord_nicon> With that Music_Shuffle
[06:33] <ceacro> Congratulations !!!
[06:33] <n2diy> Gacoment: no I don't.
[06:33] <Gacoment> ok
[06:33] <Music_Shuffle> You want to...install Wine on 64-bit Kubuntu?
[06:33] <ceacro> 3rd question
[06:33] <Music_Shuffle> Is it?
[06:33] <lord_nicon> Yep
[06:33] <Music_Shuffle> Yes its possible.
[06:33] <Music_Shuffle> :)
[06:33] <lord_nicon> Can U help me? (:
[06:33] <Music_Shuffle> Check the forums, I saw a guide a day or so ago.
[06:33] <Music_Shuffle> :o
[06:33] <lord_nicon> Can U gave me an address?
[06:33] <lord_nicon> (of forum)
[06:34] <Music_Shuffle> No idea, you'll have to forum search a bit
[06:34] <Music_Shuffle> Oh.
[06:34] <ceacro> what is the name of the next UBUNTU version?????
[06:34] <Music_Shuffle> http://kubuntuforums.net/
[06:34] <Music_Shuffle> !feisty
[06:34] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[06:34] <lord_nicon> Thx Music_Shuffle
[06:34] <ceacro> very good
[06:34] <selinuxium> hi all, Has anyone set up racoon ipsec and kvpnc ? I am trying to install racoon but I am getting module not found errors.
[06:34] <ceacro> 4th question
[06:35] <ceacro> what is the meaning of GNU????
[06:35] <LjL> ceacro: GNU is Not Unix
[06:35] <mnoir> gnu's not unix
[06:36] <n2diy> ceacro: GNU stands for GNU Not Unix.
[06:36] <ceacro> congratulations folks
[06:36] <henzo> hello
[06:36] <mnoir> without the 's, you are not correct.
[06:36] <gOldZahN> what program to open .run?
[06:36] <ceacro> this trivia questionnarie is for you....
[06:36] <henzo> hey boys!!!
[06:37] <siv0x> meng: ima go smoke another joint
[06:37] <henzo> someone knows, how i can translate grub into spanish??
[06:37] <ceacro> what do you use the command "alien" for?
[06:37] <n2diy> ! spanish
[06:37] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:37] <henzo> thanks
[06:37] <skukza> ceacro, converting rpms to debs
[06:37] <aphexian> ceacro: to phone home
[06:37] <mnoir> ceacro: I don't
[06:37] <ceacro> terrific.......
[06:37] <ceacro> super
[06:37] <SeanTater> Is there a way to cut down on digikam's space usage?
[06:38] <gOldZahN> which program can open .run files?
 someone knows, how i can translate grub into spanish?? -->comer comida?
[06:38] <n2diy> skukza: Alien converts them.
[06:38] <dsquare> my gnome display panel crashed, but gimp is running, and i have unsaved art can anyone tell me how to get it please??
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> gOldZahN: What are they for?  Chances are you don't need to.
[06:38] <skukza> n2diy, thats what he asked
[06:39] <gOldZahN> tonyyarusso, its my gfx driver^^
[06:39] <n2diy> skukza: I missed the question.
[06:39] <skukza> :P
[06:40] <lord_nicon> g2g
[06:40] <SeanTater> gOldZahN: http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=RUN -- It sounds like something for windows machines --
[06:40] <lord_nicon> bb all
[06:40] <tonyyarusso> gOldZahN: iirc, .run is a self-extracting executable, so you chmod +x it and then ./file.run - just make sure there's not a packaged version somewhere.
[06:40] <lord_nicon> Thks 4 help again Music_Shuffle and c U!
[06:40] <siv0x> mnoir; sure you dont :P
[06:40] <skukza> g0ldZahn, is it ati drivers?
[06:40] <Music_Shuffle> GL :)
[06:41] <mnoir> i have not met an .rpm in a long time that i needed
[06:41] <SeanTater> mnoir: early OO.o betas only came in rpm, that's the only reason I've used them
[06:43] <mnoir> since most developers these days are packaging properly, the build processes are strong and using rh stuff is not that necessary :)
[06:43] <siv0x> mnoir: i needed an rpm earlier and i couldnt figure it out, i had to look it up
[06:43] <Vegeta^> In this guide about webpage filtering: http://software.newsforge.com/software/04/06/23/1521209.shtml , after I typed the commands with the 'iptables' under the section "Putting it in action", I can't acces the internet anymore. Can I "undo" those commands?
[06:43] <dsquare> anyone?
[06:44] <dsquare> can anyone tell me how to revive gimp?
[06:44] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: do this --> sudo iptables -F
[06:44] <dsquare> its still running but it's in the background somewhere
[06:44] <skukza> hmm
[06:44] <troughton> i am trying to get wow working through wine but am getting an error because of opengl i have my native graphics drivers installed but open gl seems to be broken how do i fix it ??
[06:44] <skukza> ive enabled the multiverse repositories
[06:44] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: it will kill the security in iptables but you should be able to access the internet
[06:44] <dsquare> omg i found it
[06:44] <dsquare> it was on another workspace.
[06:44] <dsquare> sry
[06:44] <mnoir> dsquare: tough situation - you might look for tmp files in /tmp
[06:45] <mnoir> oic - good!
[06:45] <dsquare> thanks mnoir i will remember that if i ever lose gimp..
[06:45] <dsquare> :)
[06:45] <Vegeta^> SeanTater: That didn't help, I still can't acces. "Unable to connect"...
[06:45] <mnoir> prolly nothing was actually broke :)
[06:45] <mnoir> DONT LOSE IT
[06:45] <mnoir> sorry - emphasis
[06:45] <dsquare> not at all i misclicked i think or it just got put on a diff space when gnome restarted.
[06:45] <dsquare> im gonna go save my art now.. :)
[06:45] <mnoir> :)
[06:46] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: then in each command, replace -A with -D (append to delete) to get rid if the commands
[06:46] <Alakazamz0r> http://googlesightseeing.com/maps?p=1215&c=&t=k&hl=en&ll=55.957443,-3.311411&z=17
[06:46] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: pastebin-ing the output of sudo iptables -L would help too
[06:47] <mnoir> Vegeta^: if the -F didnt work, the -D prolly wont either.  Did you just use commandline or did you store the commands for reuse?
[06:47] <mnoir> or is there something else you didn't tell us you did :)
[06:48] <Vegeta^> mnoir: It did work.
[06:48] <mnoir> oh ok...
[06:48] <mnoir> so you're whole again?
[06:48] <fromvega> Hello
[06:48] <Vegeta^> mnoir , SeanTater: The following command was the problem: iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 8080 , why did it block everything?
[06:48] <SeanTater> mnoir: In the back of my mind I was thinking the same thing -- quite surprising that -d worked
[06:49] <fromvega> I have added rules to iptables and changed ip_forward to 1. Now, how do I make them permanent, so they remain the same after a reboot?
[06:49] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: because squid is not working correctly or is not on
[06:49] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: every web connection (http / WWW) was redirected to yourself
[06:50] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: but squid did not make new connections
[06:50] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: so there was no data
[06:50] <Vegeta^> SeanTater: Ok. How do I start squid? It doesn't quit say how.
[06:50] <Vegeta^> ok..
[06:50] <fromvega> Vegeta^: /etc/init.d/squid start
[06:50] <pterk> Hi. I moved an debian sarge box to ubuntu server (dapper) a while ago. Now I need to hook up a USB-harddisk (which was used from time to time on sarge) but /etc/hotplug is missing. I tried 'apt-get install usbmgr module-init-tools udev' but to no avail. Doen anyone have an idea how to resolve this?
[06:50] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: To be truthful , I don't know -- I spend more time with iptables than squid
[06:51] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: I just knoe squid did not do it's job and that you should not use that until squid works
[06:51] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: *know*
[06:51] <troughton> i have my native nvidia installed but need opengl running and wine says it is not working can anyone help ??
[06:52] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: what fromvega said
[06:52] <erUSUL> !info hotplug dapper
[06:52] <ubotu> Package hotplug does not exist in dapper
[06:52] <erUSUL> !info usbmnrg dapper
[06:52] <ubotu> Package usbmnrg does not exist in dapper
[06:53] <erUSUL> !info usbmgr dapper
[06:53] <ubotu> usbmgr: user-mode daemon which loads/unloads USB kernel modules. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-4 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 244 kB
[06:53] <Vegeta^> fromvega: I get [fail] ...
[06:53] <LeeJunFan> anyone tried to debootstrap edgy recently (i386)? I get this: W: Failure trying to run: chroot /media/Seagate120/thick dpkg --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.4-1ubuntu12_i386.deb
[06:53] <fromvega> Vegeta^: try stop, then start
[06:54] <fromvega> SeanTater: how do I make changes in iptable permanent? So the rules remain after a reboot?
[06:54] <giskard_> j #telepathy
[06:54] <SeanTater> fromvega: no, they do not, at least not in ubuntu or debian, to my knowledge
[06:54] <SeanTater> fromvega: but I make a script so that it does
[06:54] <fromvega> SeanTater: yes I know, but how do I do that?] 
[06:54] <SeanTater> fromvega: *made*
[06:54] <J-_> giskard_: hrm
[06:55] <fromvega> SeanTater: hum... and where you put the script?
[06:55] <LeeJunFan> ah, apparently I need to bind /dev to my chroot dest before debootstrapping.
[06:55] <giskard_> J-_, sorry i forgot /
[06:55] <SeanTater> fromvega: in /etc/init.d, and the rc.S folders
[06:55] <SeanTater> fromvega: init executes it as you boot up, and it loads the rules from a file
[06:55] <kane77> hi...
[06:55] <J-_> no prob lol =)
[06:55] <siv0x> can someone maybe help me get wine installed with synaptic?
[06:56] <kane77> how can I upgrade gnome?? (im running dapper with gnome 2.14)
[06:56] <KDan> !themes
[06:56] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:56] <der0b> maybe I'm just a fool, can anyone tell me how to change the local in gdesklets?  I can't for the life of me find where..
[06:56] <SeanTater> fromvega: I set mine up so it saves it at shutdown, meaning it seamlessly makes iptables changes persist without manually saving
[06:56] <der0b> *locale
[06:56] <kane77> siv0x, just type sudo apt-get install wine
[06:56] <troughton> is there a way to get opengl working with the nvidia drivers
[06:57] <SeanTater> troughton: as in the binary ones?
[06:57] <fromvega> SeanTater: can you show me how do you do that?
[06:57] <SeanTater> troughton: opengl works fine for me, but I use debian (etch) at the moment, so it's probably not exactly the same
[06:57] <Vegeta^> fromvega: It's the same thing. What does this mean: "/etc/init.d/squid: line 64:  7084 Aborted" ? And the number (here 7084) keeps changing on every try.
[06:57] <troughton> SeanTater i am trying to get world of warcraft working in wine all installed well but when i try to run it it says opengl not present
[06:57] <SeanTater> fromvega: do you want the script?
[06:58] <SeanTater> troughton: wine may be the culprit -- I have no experience with it though -- sorry
[06:58] <helplol> *sigh* anyone know why i installed gentoo, took off the partitions in ubuntu, and now i cant login to windows with a "GRUB error"?
[07:00] <siv0x> kane77: okay i got it installed, where can i find the program at now?
[07:00] <fromvega> SeanTater: it would be grate! can you send it to me?
[07:00] <SeanTater> fromvega: do this -> cd /etc/init.d && sudo wget http://clancy.homelinux.com/iptables.sh <-- to get the script
[07:00] <kane77> siv0x, run winecfg
[07:00] <kane77> siv0x, I'll be right back
[07:01] <zRaf> hello all
[07:01] <Vegeta^> fromvega: It is stated "To get the filtering started, you can now enter the following commands: "service squid restart", "service dansguardian restart"" but they aren't commands. Where do I type them?
[07:01] <zRaf> I need to run a shell script in Ubuntu, but I can't so it
[07:01] <siv0x> kane77: k
[07:01] <SeanTater> fromvega: then this --> chmod +x /etc/init.d/iptables.sh
[07:01] <Swede> anyone knows how to fix grub eroores?
[07:01] <SeanTater> fromvega: oops
[07:01] <SeanTater> fromvega: not that last one
[07:02] <SeanTater> fromvega: this instead --> sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/iptables.sh
[07:02] <Swede> erorrs
[07:02] <zRaf> I created the file, write down my commands, chmod 755'ed, then ./myscript and it says "Permission denied", please help
[07:02] <helplol> *sigh* anyone know why i installed gentoo, took off the partitions in ubuntu, and now i cant login to windows with a "GRUB error"?
[07:03] <Swede> what error do you get helplol?
[07:03] <helplol> i get a 22 error
[07:03] <mnoir> helplol: do you now intend no linux, only win?
[07:03] <SeanTater> zRaf: are you sure the commands in the file have permissions (as opposed to the script)
[07:03] <zRaf> it runs if I write "bash ./myscript" or "sh ./myscript"
[07:03] <helplol> no i intend on installing ubuntu
[07:03] <SeanTater> zRaf: okay
[07:03] <helplol> im still very eagar to use linux
[07:03] <fromvega> SeanTater: tks, I'll read it! and what about start, stop, does it have these commands?
[07:03] <Swede> i get 21
[07:03] <zRaf> SeanTater: yes, because the only commands that I have is "echo 'hallo'"
[07:03] <fromvega> Vegeta^: sorry, don't know
[07:04] <helplol> but i get a 22 error when it tries to load grub, when no CD is in
[07:04] <SeanTater> fromvega: yes, but only those
[07:04] <helplol> and just sits there
[07:04] <SeanTater> fromvega: hold on a moment though
[07:04] <mnoir> helplol: either you repair your MBR ala windos only before you install ubuntu, or trust that the ubu install will find it which it does usually
[07:04] <SeanTater> fromvega: that's not the end of it
[07:05] <helplol> repair my MBR?
[07:05] <zRaf> I explain. I want to run a php script for command line, but it doesn't work, so I've tried to use a simple command, but with very bad luck
[07:05] <zRaf> SeanTater: I explain. I want to run a php script for command line, but it doesn't work, so I've tried to use a simple command, but with very bad luck
[07:05] <SeanTater> fromvega: do --> /etc/init.d/iptables.sh save <-- to create the file
[07:05] <fromvega> SeanTater: why save to save the file?
[07:06] <SeanTater> fromvega: because otherwise it will have problems loading
[07:06] <mnoir> helplol: yes - right now it has a broken grub and you need either a fixed grub that points to win and ubuntu or a fixed windows whatever that points only to windows
[07:06] <SeanTater> fromvega: it's not that intuitive a script -- sorry
[07:07] <helplol> yea how would i fix that?
[07:07] <helplol> install grub from ubuntu?
[07:07] <SeanTater> fromvega: let me put a progress bar here -- We have downloaded the script -- We need to make the file and link it to each of the rc directories
[07:08] <mnoir> helplol: the normal ubuntu install will, as a matter of course do it.  Do you want to do that without making sure yer windows still works?
[07:08] <skukza> ive enabled all the repositories in sanaptic, i cant find any packages for mp3 etc
[07:08] <jbroome> !mp3 | skukza
[07:08] <ubotu> skukza: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:08] <fromvega> SeanTater: tks
[07:09] <gaten> anyone here use portsentry?
[07:09] <helplol> well
[07:09] <SeanTater> fromvega: have leftover patience?
[07:09] <helplol> i really want to login windows, so i know it works
[07:09] <helplol> then continue on with ubuntu installation
[07:09] <mnoir> helplol: i agree :)
[07:09] <mnoir> but I do not know the gatesway to fix the mbr - i advise you to find that...
[07:10] <mnoir> uuh - GATESway
[07:10] <fromvega> SeanTater: sorry, just that I need to solve another problem here.... init.d doesn't solve the problem? do I need to configure these rc dirs?
[07:10] <nova> how do i delete an .so it wont let me. need to be root... it in my trash and i cant deleted from there
[07:10] <SeanTater> fromvega: hold on -- I'll paste one big command so it does not have to take so much describing
[07:10] <helplol> so i find GATESway on google?
[07:10] <mnoir> !sudo | nova
[07:10] <ubotu> nova: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:10] <helplol> and run it?
[07:11] <nova> i know this, but im deleting not running
[07:11] <nova> how do I delete it
[07:11] <gaten> nova: your trash folder is in ~/.Trash
[07:11] <mnoir> helplol: sorry - no - i am funnin - you need to do whatever the official microsoft way is to recover your mbr
[07:11] <afflux> I've got the following problems with my compiz: gnome-terminal stars as a white window and I can't see any characters in it. I can type "exit" an press return, then it closes, so it basicly works. If I start it before I start compiz it works too, it still works if i start compiz afterwards but then new gnome-terminal windows won't work.
[07:11] <gaten> nova:  correction. your trash is in /home/user/.Trash
[07:12] <mnoir> nove - clue - the PROGRAM to delete is 'rm'
[07:12] <nova> nova@nova-desktop:~$ sudo ~/.Trash
[07:12] <nova> sudo: /home/nova/.Trash: command not found
[07:12] <nova> ???
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> nova: That's a directory, not a command.
[07:13] <mnoir> nova: stop, slow down
[07:13] <helplol> well another question
[07:13] <nova> i stopped, im slow, now what.
[07:13] <helplol> root "/" is a primary partition
[07:13] <helplol> what is swap and boot partitions?
[07:13] <mnoir> nova: the file you want to delete is in /home/nova/.Trash
[07:13] <mnoir> you want to run the delete program to delete it
[07:14] <tolle> Are there a easy way to make installation possible without having a monitor for a certain machine? Like enabling ssh and just ssh and remotly do the installation?
[07:14] <nova> lol, ok im in the hom/nova i dont see trash
[07:14] <mnoir> the way to do this is > sudo rm <pathtofiletodelete>
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> helplol: swap isn't mounted as a spot to store things and whatnot (although maybe in /proc somewhere) - it's like a pagefile or extended RAM.  boot is /boot.
[07:14] <noelferreira> hi people! hi have a ati graphic card sharing main memory? how can i configure the amount of memory of the graphic card?
[07:14] <afflux> nova, that's because files/directorys with a . in front are hidden per default
[07:14] <helplol> well im installing ubuntu with the graphical file listed in the gnome desktop
[07:14] <Dachra> hi all!  nub here with an obscure question
[07:15] <helplol> and im creating partitions for root and swap
[07:15] <nova> ok, let me make it easier for the both of us
[07:15] <Music_Shuffle> !hi | Dachra
[07:15] <ubotu> Dachra: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:15] <Dachra> :)
[07:15] <gaten> tolle:  thats called a "headless" installation. im not sure about the installation, but afterwards its easy enough. searching for headless installation might help
[07:15] <nova> this is the name of the file thats in the trash  "libjavaplugin_oji.so"
[07:15] <nova> so whats the command?
[07:15] <SeanTater> fromvega: paste coming -- just a sec
[07:15] <mnoir> nova: so you tell me what to type to remove that file :)
[07:16] <nova> sudo rm libjavaplugin_oji.so
[07:16] <nova> ?
[07:16] <mnoir> sounds right
[07:16] <nova> lol
[07:16] <nova> ok
[07:16] <mnoir> tias
[07:16] <gaten> nova:  you have to be in your trash directory first though
[07:16] <kraut> hi
[07:16] <kraut> is there any ipv6 ubuntu-mirrir?
[07:16] <mnoir> gaten: he is
[07:16] <kraut> mirror even
[07:16] <fromvega> SeanTater: ok
[07:16] <nova> whats the command to get in the directory
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> cd
[07:17] <mnoir> nova: cd <dir>
[07:17] <mnoir> i thought you were there :)
[07:17] <nova> cd trash?
[07:17] <gaten> mnoir:  hah!
[07:17] <nova> or cd /trash?
[07:17] <gaten> nova:  cd /home/nova/.Trash
[07:17] <nova> or cd /home/nova/trash
[07:17] <nova> ok
[07:17] <mnoir> nova: that is the name of the dir?
[07:17] <nova> yes
[07:17] <nova> root
[07:17] <nova> i think
[07:17] <mnoir> clue: capitals and dots count
[07:17] <SeanTater> fromvega: execute this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39352/
[07:18] <Dachra> ok, ubunto 6.10 (forget the "freindly" name "iffy?")  VMWare player running hand made XP install (need visio) currently running on wifi (eth1)
[07:18] <SeanTater> fromvega: but make sure not to include the line numbers
[07:18] <fromvega> SeanTater: does this save is because of your script or because of init.d ?
[07:18] <Dachra> the wifi connection does not pass to vmware xp instance.... any ideas how this should work?
[07:18] <nova> worked like a charm thank you, for patience and undertsanding.
[07:19] <mnoir> nova: you need to understand this - rm is forever and if you do it wrong you will prolly not be happy
[07:19] <hume> i've got some problems with networkmanager - I have an encrypted wlan and networkmanager asks for my wallet password, but when I supply it it freezes and I have to restart - is there a way to bypass the wallet thing?
[07:19] <nova> lol
[07:19] <SeanTater> fromvega: because of init executing my script
[07:19] <nova> i need to understand linux period
[07:19] <gaten> nova:  your welcome. google for some basic linux commands, they will come in handy
[07:19] <nova> rgr
[07:19] <SeanTater> fromvega: oh poo
[07:20] <SeanTater> fromvega: I did that wrong
[07:20] <gaten> nova:  look at this page: http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/basic.shtml
[07:20] <fromvega> SeanTater: no problem dude, just tell me the main procedures so I can find it later. I need to use init.d and whatelse?
[07:21] <SeanTater> fromvega: oh well -- execute this when you're done --> ln -s /etc/init.d/iptables /etc/init.d/iptables.sh
[07:21] <petroleum_> will sopcast be added to the repos anytime in the near future?
[07:21] <SeanTater> fromvega: I was supposed to use /etc/init.d/iptables.sh not /etc/init.d/iptables
[07:21] <SeanTater> fromvega: making that extra link will fix it
[07:21] <joth> Is anyone here that was helping me with partitioning earlier?
[07:21] <MenZaha> If I wish to connect to 123.456.78.910 via ssh with the username menza, what would my syntax be?
[07:21] <MenZaha> ssh 123.456.78.910 menza@hostname no?
[07:21] <tolle> gaten: yeah, tought most headless install guides goes for serial connection.
[07:22] <mnoir> MenZaha: no
[07:22] <mnoir> MenZaha: ssh user@system
[07:22] <SeanTater> fromvega: if you know init, all I;m doing is having it run the script at shutdown and startup by linking it to the appropriate folders
[07:22] <aphexian> ssh menza@123.456.78.90
[07:22] <MenZaha> aphexian, mnoir: thanks
[07:22] <SeanTater> fromvega: it's a really simple script, but it's difficult to implement
[07:22] <mnoir> MenZaha: man ssh is your friend...
[07:22] <aphexian> no prob
[07:23] <aphexian> its all about ssh tunneling then VNCing
[07:23] <gaten> tolle:  yeah well it needs to output somewhere. ssh isnt enabled by default
[07:23] <Dachra> can anyone here help with a ubuntu->vmware->xp wireless problem or am I barking up the wrong tree?  :)
[07:23] <gaten> tolle:  you could blindly enable it maybe ;)
[07:23] <thomasg> hi. I'm using xubuntu 6.10 and try to play mp3s with mpd, what doesnt work. which package I need to let mpd play my mp3s?
[07:23] <Dachra> or are ya's all just busy atm?
[07:24] <tannerld> what should the filesystem be for ubuntu?
[07:24] <tolle> gaten: yeah, seems easiest to just blindly install it atm.
[07:24] <xo233> Dachra: what are you tying to do?
[07:24] <mnoir> tannerld: pls rephrase yer question?
[07:24] <psynaps3> Folks, a few questions :) Should I got for reiserfs or ext3? typical developer usage
[07:24] <thomasg> tannerld: nearly all distros use ext3 as default
[07:24] <Lynoure> tannerld: Depends on the use. Most people use ext3.
[07:24] <gaten> tolle:  well you could try to blindly enable ssh, then install from remote. you should be able to w/ the livecd
[07:24] <mnoir> psynaps3: prolly ext3
[07:24] <tolle> gaten: ah, forgot about the livecd..
[07:24] <AlexC_> Hey
[07:24] <gaten> use ext2 if you never want to get your deleted data back
[07:24] <Dachra> im using wireless atm but can't pass the connection to vmware... know what i mean?
[07:24] <tannerld> Lynoure thomasg: ok, thanks :)
[07:25] <AlexC_> Is it possible to make Motif applications look nicer, maybe by forcing them to use GTK instead?
[07:25] <fromvega> SeanTater: thank you dude! I need to go! bye
[07:25] <mnoir> gaten - journals are for sys crashes too...
[07:25] <xo233> Right, you cannot share the connection...
[07:25] <Henry|> Alrighty, burning the alternative installation
[07:25] <psynaps3> fine, a year or so back, i had read a few good reports comparing reiserfs with ext3 and the former had the lead. What's the scenario like now?
[07:25] <Henry|> hopefully it'll work :D
[07:25] <tolle> AlexC_:
[07:25] <alex-weej> AlexC_: motif and Gtk are completely different APIs
[07:25] <mnoir> psynaps3: you want to trade more limited support for a little performance?
[07:25] <alex-weej> AlexC_: i.e. no
[07:26] <tolle> AlexC_:  what the other alex guy said.
[07:26] <xo233> Hmm, what version of VMware are you using, and what version of Ubuntu?
[07:26] <gaten> mnoir:  right. ext2 just has very little hope of recovering anything deleted/damaged. good for some purposes
[07:26] <psynaps3> hmm.. fine. ext3 it is then :)
[07:26] <AlexC_> alex-weej: oh I know they are different APIs, just wondering if it was possible to make Motif apps pretty :P
[07:26] <alex-weej> stick with ext3
[07:26] <alex-weej> it's not written by wife-murdering programmers
[07:26] <djavie233> hi
[07:26] <psynaps3> hahaha
[07:26] <hsh> hi
[07:26] <tolle> psynaps3:  the differance is that ext4 is out and hans reiser is accused of murder?
[07:26] <mnoir> alex-weej: darn - ya beat me to it...
[07:26] <Dachra> ubuntu 6.10 and vmware player with vmware 5 tools installed
[07:26] <djavie233> I need some help
[07:26] <alex-weej> djavie233: just ask!
[07:27] <psynaps3> okay next one. I am setting up a dual boot sys here and would like some help with the paritioning.
[07:27] <djavie233> Ok, I have Ubuntu Dapper Drake installed on my Windows (I'm on a Mac right now)
[07:27] <joth> I have an empty partition, can I install Windows onto it from a CD without rebooting?
[07:27] <psynaps3> what should the size be of my swap partition? (system ram is 1gb)
[07:27] <djavie233> The thing is that I want to update it to Edgy
[07:27] <jonah1980> hi i've just installed enlightenment to try instead of gnome, but on loggin in my desktop icons have dissapeared? do i have to have two sets one for enlightenment and one for gnome or is there a way to make them the same?
[07:27] <djavie233> But the windows doesn't have internet
[07:27] <alex-weej> psynaps3: try 1 GB, it's completely arbitrary and can be changed at any time if it's at the end of a disk
[07:27] <xo233> Dachra: Are you getting any output, in the form of errors/messages ect, when you try to start the connection sharing?
[07:28] <djavie233> How would I go about doing that?
[07:28] <mnoir> djavie233: you will use 6.06 to upg, not windows
[07:28] <psynaps3> i would expect a bit of paging because of running java apps most of the time
[07:28] <djavie233> mnoir : what do you mean?
[07:28] <alex-weej> psynaps3: i wouldn't worry too much about it. just give it a GB
[07:28] <xo233> djavie233: What exactly are you wanting to do? Upgrade to Edgy, from Breezy?
[07:28] <mnoir> i mean that windows access to the net is not relevant - ubuntu needs the access
[07:29] <psynaps3> fine. How about the boot partition? is 128MiB enough?
[07:29] <djavie233> xo233: I have Dapper Drake and I want to upgrade to Edgy
[07:29] <alex-weej> psynaps3: you don't need a boot partition
[07:29] <Canopus> Hi every one
[07:29] <SeanTater> is there a way to decreas the disk usage od digikam (like linking the images) or something similar?
[07:29] <Dachra> no errors, i have it set to "bridged" using the vmware virtual nic driver in xp, the connection shows up but says "poor connection blah blah blah" in xp after the interface comes up
[07:29] <SeanTater> *decrease*
[07:29] <psynaps3> i am sticking with a seperate partition for swap, boot, root and home
[07:29] <Canopus> can some one guide me how I can exclude a package from the update notifier list
[07:29] <psynaps3> old habits :)
[07:29] <gaten> psynaps3:  for swap i use 2x memory. if you have the space i'd suggest that
[07:29] <mnoir> psynaps3: why a boot?
[07:30] <thomasg> can nobody tell me which package is needed on xubuntu for playing mp3 files with mpd?
[07:30] <alex-weej> psynaps3: boot needs enough size to contain your kernel images and your initrd. i really don't think you need one but if you're hellbent on making a boot partition then be my guest.
[07:30] <alex-weej> psynaps3: i.e. 128 MB is ample
[07:30] <mediator> hello
[07:30] <Dachra> I guess my question is, does it "have" to be a ethernet NIC or can I fool it into using my wifi connection?
[07:30] <psynaps3> i have no idea. been a while since i have used linux. last attempt was with gentoo and i had quite a few kernel images in my boot partition
[07:30] <xo233> Dachra: So, there IS a connection being formed? XP (vmare) is just getting a weak signal? Does it cut off completely after that?
[07:31] <mediator> anyone know how to configure KISMET for ubuntu?
[07:31] <djavie233> so can anyone help me? If you would like to do so, PM me
[07:31] <alex-weej> psynaps3: if you want to take my advice, have /, /home and swap. you really don't need more than that for most cases and having /home on a separate partition is just convenient for power users
[07:31] <Afief> What games are available for Ubuntu with a good multiplayer(internet)?
[07:31] <psynaps3> finally, how should i divide the space between root and home partition? that's about 30gb to share
[07:31] <gaten> World of Warcraft
[07:31] <Dachra> yessir, my guess is that the vmware (1gE) driver dowsn't like the "slow" wifi connection?
[07:31] <psynaps3> it will mostly be a single user system
[07:31] <alex-weej> Afief: ut2004, quake (up to quake 4), wow and all hl variants through wine
[07:32] <alex-weej> Afief: enemy territory
[07:32] <Afief> psynaps3: I got 10 GB for root and the rest home, works like a charm for me
[07:32] <psynaps3> i need a seperate home partition. Might want to try out some other distros at some later point :)
[07:32] <gaten> psynaps3:  all your programs are gunna be stored in /usr, so i'd put more space in there. /home is mostly personal stuff
[07:32] <alex-weej> psynaps3: bear in mind that things like UT2004 are about 6 GB
[07:32] <Afief> alex-weej: i was thinking about something less heavy... more in the league of frozen bubble and friends...
[07:32] <SpiritHobo> Oy. Can I have some help?
[07:33] <xo233> Are you able to do anything net related while the connection is working?
[07:33] <Canopus> is it possible to restrain a package from being updated automatically
[07:33] <vulcanius> Afief: got a separate file system for boot?
[07:33] <psynaps3> so i guess around 20gb for root and the rest for home. if i am not mistaken i can always resize this at a later point?
[07:33] <xo233> ... does it stay connected for a certain set amount of time? Or is it random?
[07:33] <jonah1980> hello anyone know how to setup an elightenment desktop to match that of gnome - i'm not seeimg my desktop items
[07:33] <alex-weej> Afief: there are an absolute shedload of little games, just check out the games category in the app browser
[07:33] <daedra> !hu
[07:33] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[07:33] <psynaps3> alex-weej: there won't be any games in my laption :) at least not UT
[07:33] <alex-weej> psynaps3: you can, but it is difficult
[07:33] <daedra> what is that hungarian?
[07:33] <alex-weej> psynaps3: basically, you can't move the start of an ext3 partition. it's just not possible
[07:34] <Afief> vulcanius: nope, only home and root. I never understood why i would need a boot FS(perhaps you can tell me?)
[07:34] <alex-weej> psynaps3: so you are limited by that
[07:34] <gaten> Afief:  try this: http://www.happypenguin.org/
[07:34] <SpiritHobo> help
[07:34] <vulcanius> Afief: well put it this way, if you ever fill up your root partition on accident or without noticing
[07:34] <alex-weej> Canopus: you can
[07:34] <Afief> alex-weej: but none of them states if it got multiplayer
[07:34] <psynaps3> hmm... my concern is that when the next version of ubuntu comes out and when i need to do a fresh install, i woudn't want to loose my home partition
[07:34] <vulcanius> the next time you reboot, your machine will not be able to start
[07:34] <vulcanius> there will be no space for startup procedures
[07:34] <skukza> how do i view all the pations on my drive?
[07:34] <Canopus> alex-weej: great, how?
[07:35] <the_conley> df -h
[07:35] <gephalt> Hi, I cannot see my eth0 device when i do an ifconfig -a
[07:35] <vulcanius> alot of people make this mistake and then cry later when all it takes is a simple 50MB or so
[07:35] <alex-weej> Canopus: find the package in Synaptic, go to Package -> Lock Version
[07:35] <psynaps3> but i guess if i copy everything in my home partition to the shared fat32 and copy them back, it shouldn't be a problem? would this mess with the permissions and stuffs?
[07:35] <the_conley> (skukza)
[07:35] <skukza> ya
[07:35] <the_conley> df -h
[07:35] <Afief> gaten: thanks that looks promising:D
[07:35] <Dachra> xo233: not within the xp vm nosir
[07:35] <gephalt> but after i connect the ubuntu box with the XP box, according to the XP box, the network adapter is connected. how come?
[07:35] <alex-weej> psynaps3: fat32 will destroy your user permissions, and probably filenames
[07:35] <gephalt> can someone please help me with this?
[07:36] <skukza> the_conley, that only shows on partion i want to see them all
[07:36] <gaten> Afief:  no problem
[07:36] <psynaps3> duh, then its definately a seperate home partition
[07:36] <alex-weej> psynaps3: fat32 can't store filenames with colons, double quotes, or many other chars - but you could of course just move everything to a new ext3 partition :P
[07:36] <the_conley> it should show them all
[07:36] <erUSUL> psynaps3: yes it would mess up perms you better backup your home in a tar archive with the p flag to save permisions
[07:36] <bmhm> hi every1
[07:36] <the_conley> how many do you have?
[07:36] <Canopus> alex-weej: thanks
[07:36] <the_conley> and are you sure they are mounted?
[07:36] <alex-weej> Canopus: no problem
[07:37] <skukza> it only shows /dev/hda4 and /dev/sd1a
[07:37] <mitch__> hey, I get this message in the log after having installed KDE and my wireless won;t work anymore..."12/29/2006 02:31:59 PM	localhost	kernel	[  267.740495]  eth0: no IPv6 routers present"...any ideas on how to fix this?
[07:37] <erUSUL> psynaps3: 'tar cpzf /path/to/backup.tgz ~/'
[07:37] <aphexian> IPv6 ?
[07:37] <the_conley> well it isnt going to show you swap
[07:37] <Music_Shuffle> !ipv6
[07:37] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:37] <psynaps3> so what do you folks suggest? should i have a seperate partition for root and home or not? considering that home is going to be just 10gb, i could always back it up to a couple of dvd's
[07:37] <skukza> its a 40gb hd not 4gb of hd
[07:38] <mitch__> everything was working fine before KDE...now wireless won;t work in either desktop
[07:38] <erUSUL> psynaps3: it is a good idea to have separate partitions imnsho
[07:38] <skukza> mitch__, xfce
[07:38] <the_conley> i dont know what to tell you, are you sure they are all mounted?
[07:38] <psynaps3> fine sir :) just a one last question and i am out of here. what file systems for all these partition? ext3's for all except for boot (ext2)?
[07:38] <skukza> no they arnt
[07:38] <the_conley> o
[07:39] <mnoir> boot cant be ext3??
[07:39] <the_conley> well you have to mount them
[07:39] <skukza> thats why i want to see all the partions mounted or not to find out where the hell all my space went
[07:39] <the_conley> before you can look at them
[07:39] <psynaps3> i am not sure.
[07:39] <the_conley> ah
[07:39] <mnoir> my parts are all 3
[07:39] <Canopus> alex-weej: doesn't update-notifier stop asking for updating a locked package?
[07:39] <mitch__> skukza: what is xfce?
[07:39] <psynaps3> ah fine
[07:39] <alex-weej> Canopus: not sure, sorry
[07:39] <the_conley> well first of all, you cant look at them if they arent mounted, thats the point of being mounted
[07:39] <alex-weej> Canopus: i should hope so
[07:39] <erUSUL> psynaps3: i have ext3 in all partitions... (boot root and home)
[07:39] <skukza> a gui like kde or gnome
[07:40] <mnoir> psynaps3: just make sure to tune2fs them to do fsck more often
[07:40] <the_conley> just do ls /dev | grep sda (or hda)
[07:40] <kootaphor> I'm looking for a good frontend to play music and watch video on my TV.  I don't care about PVR capability, and mythtv has proven to be a pain.  Can anyone point me to a remote controllable big-screen frontend type thingie/idea? i'm wondering if they'res anything easier than, say, configuring a ratpoison setup with amarok and tons of bound keys.
[07:40] <the_conley> at see them all
[07:40] <psynaps3> thanks people :) this channel rocks
[07:40] <skukza> think ill just reinstall
[07:40] <daedra> three w00ts for #ubuntu
[07:40] <skukza> everything
[07:40] <the_conley> well i dont use gui much
[07:40] <the_conley> haha
[07:40] <the_conley> no wait
[07:40] <the_conley> i can help
[07:40] <psynaps3> i might be back later when i need to get my webcam working in edgy :) .. until then bye bye and have a nice day
[07:40] <erUSUL> !enter | the_conley
[07:40] <ubotu> the_conley: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:41] <the_conley> sorry
[07:41] <daedra> !logitech
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <daedra> !webcam
[07:41] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:41] <psynaps3> ah :)
[07:41] <Dachra> ok, no biggie guys, thanks for listening xo233!  I've not exhausted my search options yet, just thought I might get lucky here and run tno someone who has gotten wireless connection working under vmware, cheers!
[07:41] <gephalt> Can someone please help me with this- i want to know whether its faulty hardware or possibly a missing driver due to which i cannot see my eth0 device
[07:42] <MrBallZ> hi
[07:42] <psynaps3> this one's an integrated webcam. i've read a few ppl complaning about it not working properly with ubuntu... anyway that's for a later time. Bye :)
[07:42] <mnoir> psynaps3: l8r
[07:42] <hjmills> hi all
[07:42] <hjmills> i have a hard drive from a friends dedicated server
[07:42] <mnoir> hjmills: does he miss it?
[07:42] <MrBallZ> question,  How good is the Intel GMZ 950 graphics chipset ... compared to Nvidia - ATI , under linux .... without going to the propietary driver thing ...
[07:42] <hjmills> used to be on a p4 now on an amd skt a
[07:43] <hjmills> mnoir: no - he kindly lent it to me when he lost his cpu
[07:43] <Swede> i've  got an asus motherboard, but their site only contains drivers for redhat, what do i do? i want the drivers because i want to use the s/pdif contact on the motherboard
[07:43] <hjmills> it boots fine but it wont work on the network because the network hardware has changed
[07:43] <bmhm> can some1 help here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=302545
[07:43] <hjmills> how can i get it to reconfigure this?
[07:43] <maddash> for gtk1, there's the gtk-theme-switch. what about gtk2? I've installed some random theme via aptitude (gtk2-engines-clearlooks), so how do I switch my theme to that one?
[07:44] <mnoir> hj - you should be abe to alter the net config
[07:44] <mnoir> the config is /etc/network/interfaces
[07:44] <hjmills> mnoir: I can but it cant find the hardware that in the past it called "eth0" - how do i get it to relook at the hardware and set that all up?
[07:45] <mon^rch> anyone running doom3 on edgy?
[07:45] <maddash> anyone here know how to switch the gtk2 themes?
[07:45] <hjmills> mnoir: its a lower level than that
[07:45] <wyatt_earp> is there a way i can run 32bit pam modules on an amd64 ubuntu install?
[07:45] <lode_> Hi, I was in a graphical KDE session. Then I used "lock session". I came back later, and entered my password to unlock it. It said "unlocking failed". Then I pressed ctrl+alt+F2 and logged in with my username and the same password. It worked. Then I started a new graphical session, and again there I can login with my password. But I want my original graphical sessoin (which is at ctrl+alt+f7), and it still says "unlocking failed", but I seriousl
[07:45] <lode_> y enter my correct password
[07:45] <joth> I have an empty partition, can I install Windows onto it from a CD without rebooting?
[07:45] <lode_> what else than a wrong password could cause this "unlocking failed"?
[07:45] <mnoir> hmm -
[07:45] <alex-weej> lode_: absolutely double check num lock and caps lock
[07:45] <hjmills> maddash: its in Systems>Preferences>Themes in gnome
[07:45] <mnoir> you need to inspect the boot log to determine hw or look in /proc
[07:45] <alex-weej> lode_: sometimes when switching VT's their states go a bit funked up
[07:46] <hjmills> lode_: try running "sudo passwd <username> in a term and setting the passwd to what you think it is and retrying
[07:46] <AnRkey> hi all
[07:46] <alex-weej> lode_: hjmills' tip will set the root password
[07:46] <lode_> alex-weej, it's not caps, and it's not numlock, tried all states, and also tried qwerty<-> azerty etc...
[07:46] <hjmills> any idea how i can redetect the hard ware
[07:46] <maddash> hjmills: if it were that simple, I wouldn't have to ask. I don't have gnome. I fresh installed a server setup of breezy. only have openbox and obconf. and xorg, of course.
[07:46] <tannerld> whats the best way to set up dual monitors?
[07:46] <hjmills> alex-weej: not if you give a different username
[07:46] <alex-weej> lode_: in that case, uninstall KDE and use GNOME
[07:46] <mnoir> hjmills: I'm thinking
[07:47] <lode_> it's not the root password, it's the one of my user account
[07:47] <hjmills> maddash: i think there is a gtk-theme-switch program available
[07:47] <lode_> alex-weej, I've used KDE for over a year on archlinux and it's never showed that problem there
[07:47] <maddash> hjmills: firefox, totem, etc...they all look too oldschool for me
[07:47] <alex-weej> lode_: i'm just kidding :P
[07:47] <hjmills> maddash: lol
[07:47] <AnRkey> I have just installed edubuntu here for testing and my /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf file is empty. Does anyone have an example file for me? a pastebin of it would be handy
[07:47] <maddash> hjmills: did you read my original comment? gtk-theme-switch is only for gtk1 themes....
[07:47] <Afief> maddash: firefox can download many nice themes, even a vista theme if you like:)
[07:47] <hjmills> maddash: there is a version for gtk2 themes - i used it on fluxbox
[07:48] <mnoir> hjmills: does dmesg|grep eth help?
[07:48] <maddash> hjmills: there doesn't seem to be a gtk2-theme-switch or a gtk-theme-switch2 in the ubuntu repos
[07:48] <Afief> maddash: and gnome can look like vista as well, i think it was called vista-gtk2 theme
[07:48] <maddash> Afief: read my msgs. I don't have gnome.
[07:48] <Afief> maddash: what do you have?
[07:49] <maddash> hjmills: do you recall what package you used for the fluxbox?
[07:49] <hjmills> maddash: run switch2 from a term
[07:49] <hjmills> maddash: its in the gtk-theme-switch package - that has 2 binaries - one for gtk1  and one for gtk2
[07:49] <maddash> hjmills: thanks dude.
[07:50] <jmhodges> hey, my swapon is saying that the UUID of my swap partition is "invalid" when i run swapon -a
[07:50] <jmhodges> i havent touched my fstab.. what can i do?
[07:50] <alex-weej> jmhodges: check your /etc/fstab
[07:50] <maddash> hjmills: good god. just looking at these butt-ugly controls is enough to cause a stroke.
[07:50] <alex-weej> jmhodges: and look at "lshal | less" to verify that your UUIDs match
[07:51] <jmhodges> what am i looking for in lshal?
[07:51] <psynaps3> Ah, sorry to disturb you folks again, but just one last confirmation before i commit the changes. :)
[07:51] <hjmills> maddash: happy to help
[07:51] <alex-weej> jmhodges: your swap volume
[07:51] <anks> I need to make one distro starting from ubuntu can anybody help me please
[07:51] <alex-weej> hjmills: type "/swap" in less to search for "swap"
[07:51] <hjmills> anks there is some great stuff on the wiki
[07:51] <psynaps3> Partition table - Diagnostic (fat16 - 110mb - Primary), XP (ntfs, 30GB, Primary), Boot (ext3, 128mb, Primary), Swap (swap, 1gb, logical), root (ext3, 20gb, logical), home (ext3, 10gb, logical) and Shared (fat32, 50gb, logical)
[07:51] <alex-weej> psynaps3: all on one disk?
[07:52] <psynaps3> does that look fine
[07:52] <jmhodges> alex-weej: i assume that /swap was for me.. and i already had
[07:52] <psynaps3> yes
[07:52] <alex-weej> psynaps3: overkill.
[07:52] <psynaps3> its a 120gb drive
[07:52] <hjmills> anks: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06
[07:52] <jmhodges> alex-weej: there's nothing mentiong swap in there
[07:52] <psynaps3> overkill? as in?
[07:52] <Pierre_N> hi
[07:52] <alex-weej> jmhodges: try running hal-device-manager
[07:52] <Afief> Pierre_N: hi
[07:52] <alex-weej> jmhodges: it's a graphical equivalent
[07:53] <jmhodges> alex-weej: right
[07:53] <alex-weej> jmhodges: look under your hard disk controller for your hard disks and try to find the swap partition you have
[07:53] <Pierre_N> when I run synaptic as root, it looks poo, like the gtk theme isn't being applied - I've tried running gnome-theme-manager as root (and gtk-theme-switch) but they aren't changing the gtk2 theme - any ideas
[07:53] <Pierre_N> ?
[07:53] <alex-weej> psynaps3: do you really need a fat16 partition?
[07:53] <anks> hjmills, thanks
[07:53] <hjmills> Pierre_N: make sure the theme you want is in /usr/share/themes not in ~/.themes
[07:53] <alex-weej> Pierre_N: your gtk theme is installed in /home/pierre/.themes
[07:53] <psynaps3> alex-weej: that's the dell diagnostic partition. I can't take it out.
[07:53] <Pierre_N> thanks peeps
[07:54] <hjmills> mnoir: that showd me something (grep eth) but didnt say much - just the mac addr
[07:54] <hjmills> mnoir: im currently doing a dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[07:54] <ubuntu> Am I able to put something on my Windows NTFS partition from Ubuntu Live? My internet isn't working on Windows and I need to install a driver
[07:54] <Pierre_N> woot, fixed! (thanks again)
[07:54] <my_haz> how do i record my voice with Ubuntu?
[07:54] <alex-weej> ubuntu: not easily
[07:55] <jmhodges> alex-weej: found it
[07:55] <psynaps3> how about the rest of the partitions? i have taken into account all the information that i could gather to come up with that :)
[07:55] <my_haz> what tool do i use to record my voice into mp3 for example
[07:55] <mnoir> hmm - might work, i am wondering if your loadable mods are right
[07:55] <alex-weej> ubuntu: Microsoft NTFS is closed and proprietary, any support we have for it is reverse engineered and isn't guaranteed to not hose your system
[07:55] <mnoir> !ntfs
[07:55] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[07:55] <jmhodges> alex-weej: bonus, its volume.uuid is false and so is its volume.fstype
[07:55] <hjmills> mnoir: no luck there - the loadable mods wont be right - the install is set for a diff mobo, cpu and everythong
[07:56] <alex-weej> my_haz: gst-launch gconfaudiosrc ! vorbisenc ! oggmux ! filesink location=recorded.ogg
[07:56] <jmhodges> alex-weej: er. i mean its volume.uuid is blank and so is its volume.fstype
[07:56] <mnoir> alexthan needs to be in the !ntfs output!
[07:56] <ubuntu> alex-weej: Is there any other way I can transfer the driver to Windows? I don't have a CD burner
[07:56] <alex-weej> jmhodges: run mkswap /dev/sdWHATEVER
[07:56] <my_haz> alex-weej: whoa thats a big command
[07:56] <alex-weej> ubuntu: you need to ask on #windows
[07:56] <jmhodges> very very odd
[07:56] <jmhodges> its worked fine for ages
[07:56] <hjmills> my_haz: i think there is a sound-recorder program then use a converter to make it something else
[07:57] <alex-weej> jmhodges: did you recently upgrade distribution?
[07:57] <wyatt_earp> anyone know how i can install the 32bit pam on an amd64 system?
[07:57] <tannerld> whats the best way to set up dual monitors?
[07:57] <hjmills> tannerld: what gfx card?
[07:57] <jmhodges> not so recently.. maybe i just didnt notice however.. i only saw the swap init fail because my harddrve was at its 30 times-no-scan limit
[07:58] <alex-weej> jmhodges: if you change your fstab to use /dev/sdWHATEVER it will work
[07:58] <s0nix> hi
[07:58] <tannerld> hjmills: ati
[07:58] <ubuntu> How would I mount my Windows partition?
[07:58] <alex-weej> jmhodges: but the "in" way of doing it these days is to use UUIDs, as it prevents problems when swapping disks in and out of your system
[07:58] <alex-weej> jmhodges: simply mkswap'ing will create a UUID for it
[07:58] <jmhodges> alex-weej: just did the mkswap business, i'll toss the new UUID in fstab
[07:59] <jmhodges> er.. heh, exactly
[07:59] <alex-weej> jmhodges: did it show up in HAL>?
[07:59] <hjmills> tannerld: check in the wiki - probably easiest to use the X org way rather than any ATI way if there is one but Im an nVidia user myself im afraid
[07:59] <jmhodges> alex-weej: hunh, just restarted hal-device-manager.. and it looks like no
[07:59] <s0nix> anyone can help me to solve this problem: s0nix@PARANOID:~$ java -classpath . NW-E003_MP3_File_Manager-0.10.jar ----------------- Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: NW-E003_MP3_File_Manager-0/10/jarvvv
[07:59] <ubuntu> How would I mount my Windows partition?
[08:00] <mnoir> !ntfs
[08:00] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[08:00] <alex-weej> jmhodges: possibly you need to restart HAL to get it to pick up on the disk changes - try a reboot
[08:00] <jmhodges> alex-weej: ah
[08:00] <s0nix> java version "1.5.0_08"
[08:00] <jmhodges> fun fun
[08:00] <lorenz_> join/ #reload
[08:00] <jmhodges> brb then
[08:00] <hjmills> s0nix: thats a java problem from the looks of it - did you write it?
[08:00] <alwa> hello can someon help me
[08:00] <s0nix> hjmills:  no, i got only the .jar
[08:00] <hjmills> lorenz_: you mean <slash>join #reload (i.e. /join #reload)
[08:01] <erUSUL> !info apt-cache search ktechlab
[08:01] <ubotu> Package apt-cache does not exist in edgy
[08:01] <mnoir> alwa: not unless you ask an ubuntu question
[08:01] <erUSUL> !info ktechlab
[08:01] <ubotu> ktechlab: circuit simulator for microcontrollers and electronics. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-4 (edgy), package size 1052 kB, installed size 3540 kB
[08:01] <maddash> LOL
[08:01] <erUSUL> !info ktechlab dapper
[08:01] <ubotu> Package ktechlab does not exist in dapper
[08:01] <ubuntu> /dev/sda1   *           1       19451   156240126    7  HPFS/NTFS
[08:01] <hjmills> s0nix: oh ok - best way is to fix it if u can get the source and know java or check it has everything it needs or find a new program
[08:01] <ubuntu> is it supposed to say sda?
[08:02] <n2diy> alwa: not unless you ask a question.
[08:02] <mnoir> ubuntu: that is a valid type
[08:02] <ubuntu> ok
[08:02] <hjmills> !ask
[08:02] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:02] <maddash> !stfu
[08:02] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[08:02] <s0nix> hjmills: im sure the .jar work perfectly cher vous
[08:03] <alwa> i have some problem with my wlan card (broadcom4318)
[08:03] <s0nix> "cher vous" = on your pc
[08:03] <mnoir> !wlan
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <hjmills> s0nix: how come?
[08:03] <alex-weej> !wifi
[08:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:03] <alwa> i have read the docu
[08:04] <alwa> i have bcm43xx installed and now ndiswrapper
[08:04] <s0nix> hjmills: it probably (and surely) a stupid problem of classpath
[08:04] <hjmills> alwa: search the wiki and forum for your card
[08:04] <aphexian> jfgi - Jewish Federation of Greater Indianapolis ;)
[08:04] <hjmills> s0nix: im afraid i dont know java....
[08:04] <miljenko> hay from croatia
[08:04] <maddash> has anyone ever tried to "sudo apt-get|aptitude remove apt" ?
[08:04] <alex-weej> maddash: if you do that you'll have to bootstrap your system
[08:04] <alex-weej> maddash: i.e. don't.
[08:05] <crippledcanary> alwa: I also have a 4318
[08:05] <maddash> alex-weej: what do you mean? I don't need apt to boot up...right?
[08:06] <crippledcanary> alwa: and i have got it working without ndiswrapper in edgy.
[08:06] <alwa> crippledcanary: in a tm44 notebook
[08:06] <acuozzo> How is everyone? Can anyone read what I am writing?
[08:06] <alex-weej> maddash: nah, apt has a lot of important dependants, uninstalling it will uninstall them
[08:06] <ubuntu> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter -- doesn't exist anymore :\
[08:06] <crippledcanary> alwa: I've got a aspire 3003
[08:06] <acuozzo> I have a Travelmate 4654!
[08:07] <alex-weej> maddash: basically you'll need to go around reinstalling stuff without apt
[08:07] <hjmills> what is run when you install linux to detect the hardware?
[08:07] <alex-weej> hjmills: the kernel...
[08:07] <maddash> alex-weej: so is there any way I could "seal shut" a computer, ie, disable any installation/removal of packages, while still retaining the ability to use the existing packages?
[08:07] <alex-weej> maddash: not to my knowledge
[08:08] <hjmills> alex-weej: so why does the kernel not redetect my hardware when i move the hdd into another machine? my network no longer works
[08:08] <oroneta> hola a todos y felices fiestas
[08:08] <mnoir> !es
[08:08] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:08] <mnoir> happy happy anyway :)
[08:08] <oroneta> sorry
[08:08] <alex-weej> maddash: hjmills, ah... that's not hardware detection - that's hardware configuration
[08:08] <acuozzo> Does anyone see what I am writing?
[08:08] <alex-weej> maddash: not you
[08:08] <alex-weej> hjmills: ^^
[08:08] <n2diy> maddash: alex-weej, create an alias that sends the apt-get command to null?
[08:09] <alex-weej> n2diy: woah
[08:09] <alex-weej> n2diy: easy to hack :P
[08:09] <alwa> is it an problem if i have the normal "cablecard" up and on dhcp mode
[08:09] <maddash> n2diy: ditto alex-weej
[08:09] <mnoir> cool - security by cumbersomeness
[08:09] <hjmills> alex-weej: is it possible to get it to reconfigure the network devices then?
[08:09] <n2diy> maddash: alex-weej, not for a newbie.
[08:09] <alex-weej> hjmills: certainly, one second
[08:09] <alex-weej> n2diy: why are you giving newbies admin access?
[08:09] <Jay2> anybody figured out how to install a Benq Prisa 1240UT
[08:10] <alex-weej> non-admins can't use apt at all
[08:10] <alex-weej> so it's not a problem
[08:10] <oroneta> merry xmas, bye!
[08:10] <n2diy> alex-weej: Who said anything about giving them admin access?
[08:10] <crippledcanary> alwa: have you tried Network-Manager and nm-applet
[08:10] <maddash> alex-weej: I'm not. I'm going to open a terminal for near-public access, but there could be some newbies who feel compelled to sudo apt-get something
[08:10] <xelu> eeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:10] <chickygocheer4u> hey
[08:10] <alex-weej> maddash: why are they able to sudo?
[08:11] <hjmills> maddash: dont give them root access?
[08:11] <gaten> maddash:  dont give them sudo. simple
[08:11] <chickygocheer4u> what??
[08:11] <mnoir> maddash: which will be rejected since you won't put them in the admin group
[08:11] <sysrpl> hello
[08:11] <crippledcanary> alwa: I have configured for nm to take care of my cable and wireless and it switches ok.
[08:11] <chickygocheer4u> who do i puit new software on my computer
[08:11] <hume> is there a way to have knetworkmanager connect to a WEP encrypted WLAN without having to type in wallet password each time?
[08:11] <n2diy> chickygocheer4u: click on system-admin-synaptic
[08:11] <maddash> hjmills: yeah, but being able to sudo in the first place...might look unprofessional
[08:11] <chickygocheer4u> how do i put new software on my computer****
[08:12] <n2diy> chickygocheer4u: click on system-admin-synaptic
[08:12] <VR_> Is the "alternate" ubuntu ISO with the text installation?
[08:12] <alwa> okay thx crippledcanary
[08:12] <alex-weej> chickygocheer4u: Applications -> Add/Remove
[08:12] <hjmills> maddash: but they cant - they can try bt it just gets reported to the sys admin and denied
[08:12] <chickygocheer4u> i cant get in that
[08:12] <miguel> hi all
[08:12] <hjmills> VR_: yes
[08:12] <alex-weej> chickygocheer4u: why not?
[08:12] <mnoir> madpls splain why you would give them sudo access?
[08:12] <VR_> hjmills: Thanks
[08:12] <n2diy> VR_: yes, it is called the Alternative CD.
[08:12] <miguel> has anyone successfully configured a Linksys WUSB54GR on Edgy?
[08:12] <chickygocheer4u> bc mystdep brother has the password and he wont tell me
[08:12] <maddash> huh?? stupid tinyirc...it's screwing up whenever i resize xterm geez
[08:13] <chickygocheer4u> step***
[08:13] <alex-weej> chickygocheer4u: then you can't use the packaging system, sorry
[08:13] <hjmills> chickygocheer4u: you need the password to install stuff - sorry
[08:13] <chickygocheer4u> fuck
[08:13] <chickygocheer4u> sry
[08:13] <VR_> hjmills, n2diy: the alternative CD still has the gnome/kde desktop though, right?
[08:13] <alex-weej> chickygocheer4u:  go and ask him to install something
[08:13] <acuozzo> Can anyone read what I am writing?
[08:13] <VR_> or would i have to apt-get it
[08:13] <alex-weej> acuozzo: hi :P
[08:13] <n2diy> VR_: I don't know.
[08:13] <hjmills> acuozzo: yes
[08:13] <acuozzo> Hi :) Thank you.
[08:14] <PriceChild> chickygocheer4u: reboot into single user mode
[08:14] <acuozzo> NickServ was messing with me.
[08:14] <chickygocheer4u> how
[08:14] <chickygocheer4u> ?
[08:14] <hjmills> alex-weej: any luck on how to reconfigure the network stuff?
[08:14] <sysrpl> i have a pc that kind of took a crap  (possibly). the video no longer works. i tried swapping out video cards, but that didn't fix the problem. to salvage the board, what should i try next?
[08:14] <acuozzo> Anyone else here use an Acer laptop?
[08:14] <sysrpl> i also disconnected the drives, and tried different memory, but i still can't get the video to output anything. any advice would be appreciated
[08:14] <alex-weej> hjmills: you need to debconf something but i can't remember what - have you tried installing networkmanager?
[08:14] <alex-weej> networkmanager deals with all this kind of jazz
[08:14] <hjmills> sysrpl: probably a duff mobo - try a pci gfx card
[08:15] <chickygocheer4u> i dodnt know anything about computers
[08:15] <alex-weej> hjmills: actually
[08:15] <chickygocheer4u> cant you tell
[08:15] <alex-weej> hjmills: you using GNOME?
[08:15] <chickygocheer4u> yes
[08:15] <hjmills> alex-weej: no - its a server :(
[08:15] <sysrpl> hjmills: i don't have any pci video cards lying around :(
[08:15] <alwa> crippledcanary: network-mananger scanns but dont find my router
[08:15] <alex-weej> hjmills: look in /etc/netwrok
[08:15] <sysrpl> hjmills: duff?
[08:15] <alex-weej> hjmills: /etc/network
[08:16] <crippledcanary> alwa: have you ever got wireless to work?
[08:16] <acuozzo> Has anyone been able to get the 3d acceleration working nicley with i915?
[08:16] <alex-weej> sysrpl: does your computer POST?
[08:16] <hjmills> sysrpl: so it has no onboard or that doesnt work and the agp slot dosnt seem to work? try pci if u want or replace the mobo or install a server ubuntu and from memory set it up on ssh and login remotely
[08:16] <hjmills> alex-weej: thanks :D
[08:16] <ubuntu> how do i move files?
[08:16] <ubuntu> in terminal
[08:16] <acuozzo> cp
[08:16] <alex-weej> ubuntu: drag and drop? :E
[08:16] <alwa> yes
[08:17] <Afief> ubuntu mv [src]  [dst] 
[08:17] <aphexian> mv
[08:17] <acuozzo> *sudo* (if needed) [file]  cp [dir] 
[08:17] <ubuntu> thanks.
[08:17] <mnoir> ubuntu: man mv
[08:17] <acuozzo> oh yeah :)
[08:17] <acuozzo> So any i915 gpu users?
[08:17] <crippledcanary> alwa: have you got it to work with your router using nework-manager when disconnected from cable?
[08:18] <ubuntu> mv: cannot create regular file `/media/windows/Drivers.zip': Read-only file system
[08:18] <ubuntu> what does that mean?
[08:18] <sysrpl> hjmills: it would be hard to install anything on it as it has no video to see what i need to respond to during install
[08:18] <acuozzo> ah wait
[08:18] <edgy> Hi, how can I set the timezone in ubuntu from command line?
[08:18] <tannerld> I got ubuntu installed on my new computer (its boots and everything), but moving windows is slow and glxgears very slowly works.
[08:18] <acuozzo> do you have a fat32 filesystem on your computer ubuntu?
[08:18] <acuozzo> are you dual-booting?
[08:18] <ubuntu> acuozzo: ntfs
[08:19] <Qaldune> tannerld got nvidia card?
[08:19] <acuozzo> ah, so you're dual-booting?
[08:19] <tannerld> Qaldune: no, ati
[08:19] <metroman> Where do I get KVM?
[08:19] <ubuntu> acuozzo: no, i need to transfer the drivers over to my windows because my internet isn't working on windows
[08:19] <Qaldune> have u installed graphic card drivers?
[08:19] <acuozzo> and you mounted the ntfs partition?
[08:19] <acuozzo> in ubuntu
[08:19] <ubuntu> acuozzo: yes, in /media/windows
[08:19] <lerneaen_hydra> >	does anyone know if there's an easy way to get a partitioning tool similar to the one used in the alternate install CD (text based)?
[08:19] <acuozzo> hmm...
[08:20] <Qaldune> qparted
[08:20] <Afief> lerneaen_hydra: gparted is pretty good
[08:20] <acuozzo> maybe you can change the read-write access of the /media/windows
[08:20] <mnoir> lerneaen_hydra: it is called parted (the text version)
[08:20] <ubuntu> acuozzo: how?
[08:20] <coopster> does anyone know if there's a very signifigant difference between hardware RAID and fakeraid under ubuntu, when used as a personal fileserver (so not a high-demand/stress environment)
[08:21] <jmhodges> alex-weej: thanks. that was it. changed the uuid in fstab and hit swapon -a again and all better
[08:21] <alex-weej> jmhodges: sweet
[08:21] <acuozzo> (i don't remember the modes, but...) sudo chmod 777 '/media/windows'
[08:21] <alex-weej> jmhodges: now a question
[08:21] <lerneaen_hydra> mnoir: is parted exactly the same as the one used in the text install?
[08:21] <alex-weej> jmhodges: when did you create the swap partition?
[08:21] <acuozzo> 777 (i believe) = full access
[08:21] <acuozzo> you may want to research it first
[08:21] <cmarnell> coopster, if it is software raid through ubuntu, if you hard drive dies you will still loose everything
[08:21] <jmhodges> alex-weej: many moons ago when i upgraded to the (stable) Edgy
[08:21] <mnoir> lerneaen_hydra: I believe so
[08:22] <acuozzo> jmhodges: is that possible?! :)
[08:22] <alex-weej> jmhodges: looks like there was a bug there - whatever created your swap partition did it badly
[08:22] <lynucs> acuozzo: you grant writing permissions for a ntfs partition?
[08:22] <ubuntu> acuozzo: chmod: changing permissions of `/media/windows': Read-only file system
[08:22] <alex-weej> jmhodges: but all is well now
[08:22] <jmhodges> alex-weej: yep, appears so
[08:22] <mnoir> lerneaen_hydra: not positive
[08:22] <Qaldune> leneaen_hydra have u tried cfdisk?
[08:22] <jmhodges> acuozzo: heh
[08:22] <Alakazamz0r> ubuntu do NOt do that.
[08:22] <acuozzo> as I said, research it first
[08:22] <Qaldune> it's a lot easier than it seems like
[08:22] <lerneaen_hydra> mnoir: it seems to be more command-based
[08:22] <ubuntu> Alakazamz0r: what then? :\
[08:22] <lynucs> ubuntu: if you have a ntfs partition, better dont write on it from linux
[08:23] <Alakazamz0r> ubuntu edit your /etc/fstab file
[08:23] <mnoir> !ntfs
[08:23] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[08:23] <ubuntu> lynucs: the Drivers.zip is written from NTFS
[08:23] <coopster> does anyone know how/if ubuntu works with fakeraid setups?
[08:23] <lerneaen_hydra> Qaldune: was that adressed to me?
[08:23] <Qaldune> yes
[08:23] <ubuntu> Alakazamz0r: i already did
[08:23] <lerneaen_hydra> I'll test it then
[08:23] <Qaldune> sudo cfdisk
[08:23] <Alakazamz0r> Ubuntu, did you remount the partition
[08:23] <hjmills> alex-weej: nothing in /etc/network works :(
[08:23] <lynucs> ubuntu: its a risk to write on ntfs partition.. might loose your data
[08:23] <Alakazamz0r> umount -a && mount -a
[08:23] <Alakazamz0r> ?
[08:24] <ubuntu> um
[08:24] <ubuntu> let me try
[08:24] <alex-weej> hjmills: could you explain exactly what's happening to me?
[08:24] <Alakazamz0r> and ubuntu like lynucs said, i wouldn't write to my NTFS partition (if i had one)
[08:24] <alex-weej> hjmills: or perhaps if you're not having much luck with us, open a support ticket on launchpad
[08:24] <SamChestido> hi
[08:24] <SurfnKid> anyone know what a COU is?
[08:24] <ubuntu> Alakazamz0r: but the zip i'm transferring over is ntfs
[08:24] <SamChestido> I have a question
[08:24] <SurfnKid> in the subject of CPU and Chips
[08:24] <SamChestido> is it possible to hide the gnome-panel in one of the workspaces?
[08:24] <lynucs> ubuntu: better create a FAT partition as exchange partition for linux/windows
[08:24] <Alakazamz0r> ubuntu are you getting it from NTFS
[08:24] <ubuntu> Alakazamz0r: i created the zip on my other computer which is ntfs, then i put it on my hosting, then downloading it
[08:25] <Alakazamz0r> or putting it to NTFS
[08:25] <tannerld> I got ubuntu installed on my new computer (its boots and everything), but moving windows is slow and glxgears very slowly works.
[08:25] <acuozzo> I did preface it with "research it first"...so no flames Alakaz :)
[08:25] <Alakazamz0r> then you dont need write permissions ubuntu, only read permissions.
[08:25] <ski-worklap> hmm
[08:25] <Alakazamz0r> yeah acuozzo ;)
[08:25] <hjmills> alex-weej: i am setting up a dedicated server using a hard drive with it all already installed but as it was installed with different hardware it isnt working now the hardware has changed - it all boots but the network interface it used to have cannot be found and it wont find my new interface
[08:25] <ubuntu> Alakazamz0r: huh? I need to transfer my zip to windows, so i would need write permissions
[08:25] <ski-worklap> anyone else have a problem with ubuntu where the system beep character isn't converted into any sound in gnome?
[08:25] <lufis> Hey guys. I'm looking into archiving a lot of my audio CDs losslessly with FLAC and was wondering if Soundjuicer would do a professional enough job
[08:25] <alex-weej> hjmills: what is the new interface hardware?
[08:25] <Alakazamz0r> How bigs the zipfile.
[08:25] <ski-worklap> i tried changing the prefs in the sound system preference applet, but it still no workie
[08:26] <alex-weej> lufis: yes indeed.
[08:26] <Alakazamz0r> why dont you upload it to flyupload.com
[08:26] <ski-worklap> any ideas?
[08:26] <KaLimeRo-> How i can Fotmat and Install the Ubuntu from the CD like i did before with WindowsXP ??
[08:26] <xanex> Alakazamz0r: its located in www.xenex.weeki.org/Drivers.zip -- its 43mb
[08:26] <alex-weej> KaLimeRo-: the ubuntu installer will take care of formatting for you
[08:26] <Qaldune> kalimero try putting the cd in the drive
[08:26] <acuozzo> ubuntu, can you actually get on the windows (assuming) install?
[08:26] <aphexian> Kalimero: you can just boot from the install cd
[08:26] <Alakazamz0r> xanex, i dont understand what you're trying to do.
[08:26] <xanex> er 49mb
[08:26] <magic_ninja> !gstreamer
[08:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <KaLimeRo-> alex-weej what do you mean ?
[08:27] <xanex> Alakazamz0r: I need to get Drivers.zip onto my Windows partition because I need the ethernet driver
[08:27] <Alakazamz0r> and xanex Xanax is spelled Xanax, if thats what you were going for.
[08:27] <alex-weej> KaLimeRo-: just boot the CD and click "install"
[08:27] <magic_ninja> whats the name of the gstreamer wav plugin (so i can use soundcoverter to convert to wave)
[08:27] <Alakazamz0r> xanex, why dont you download it and burn it to a CD?
[08:27] <xanex> Alakazamz0r: its just a temp nick, i was getting tired of highlighting
[08:27] <lufis> magic_ninja: wavenc?
[08:27] <xanex> Alakazamz0r: i only have 1 burner, which is being used by the livecd
[08:27] <hjmills> alex-weej: its a built in ethernet port on the mobo
[08:27] <acuozzo> who is xanex? is xanex ubuntu?
[08:27] <xanex> yes
[08:27] <acuozzo> ah
[08:27] <skenmy> Hi all. I'm trying to get my "direct rendering" to show as Yes by installing the NVidia drivers. However it seems that the openglx server is still showing as SGI, and I can't uninstal mesa without uninstaling the whole of X through apt / Synaptic. Would anyone be willing to help me out with that one?
[08:27] <acuozzo> hello
[08:27] <magic_ninja> lufis: is it a prog sir?
[08:27] <Alakazamz0r> xanex, USB drive?
[08:27] <hjmills> alex-weej: just a thought - would it have been picked up as eth1?
[08:27] <Alakazamz0r> stick?
[08:27] <xanex> Alakazamz0r: none.
[08:27] <alecjw> magic_ninja: i thought that gstreamer could play wav's out of the box
[08:28] <lufis> magic_ninja: I don't think so, it's a gstreamer plugin
[08:28] <acuozzo> xanex, can you get on the (assuming) windows installation? or is this why you are accessing it from ubuntu...?
[08:28] <Alakazamz0r> crap.
[08:28] <lufis> magic_ninja: it might be called something else
[08:28] <mnoir> hjmills: do you have an onboard eth enabled and a card??
[08:28] <Alakazamz0r> i duno bro
[08:28] <xanex> acuozzo: yes i can use windows but the internet doesn't work
[08:28] <Alakazamz0r> you can try making it writable.
[08:28] <Alakazamz0r> i wouldn't
[08:28] <magic_ninja> alecjw: it can play them...but for some reason sound converter won't convert them and gives me a gstreamer plugin error...i can get you the error if you like
[08:28] <alex-weej> hjmills: that really shouldn't matter
[08:28] <hjmills> mnoir: I have onboard eth and no card - eth is enabled
[08:28] <KaLimeRo-> alex-weej u mean just install from the windows and its will formt is salf ?
[08:28] <alex-weej> hjmills: what does "sudo ifconfig" tell you?
[08:28] <Alakazamz0r> /dev/hda3 /mnt/ntfs_p ntfs-3g defaults,umask=0 0 0
[08:28] <acuozzo> well, Alakaz, can't he just change it back after writing the one file?
[08:28] <Alakazamz0r> that'd do it.
[08:28] <mnoir> hjmills: that should enable as eth0 then
[08:28] <alex-weej> KaLimeRo-: no, burn the ISO CD image to a CD-R, then boot from the CD-R
[08:29] <alex-weej> KaLimeRo-: do you know how to boot from a CD-R?
[08:29] <xanex> /dev/sda1   /media/windows   ntfs   ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[08:29] <xanex> i put that in fstab
[08:29] <acuozzo> hmm...
[08:29] <KaLimeRo-> no..
[08:29] <Alakazamz0r> ntfs-3g not ntfs
[08:29] <alex-weej> !boot
[08:29] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[08:29] <xanex> Alakazamz0r: that's what the wiki said :\
[08:29] <Alakazamz0r> xanex, http://ciscosurfing.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/ntfs-using-ntfs-3g/
[08:29] <mnoir> hjmills: have you tried just booting the live cd??
[08:29] <Alakazamz0r> read that.
[08:30] <MyStiC1985> can't he just use the bios cd-boot?
[08:30] <magic_ninja> !soundconverter
[08:30] <ubotu> soundconverter: convert sound files to other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 300 kB
[08:30] <hjmills> mnoir: that will work - the hard ware is fine - i just need to run programs on this hard drive
[08:30] <xanex> Alakazamz0r: sudo aptitude install ntfs-3g
[08:30] <xanex> er
[08:30] <xanex> Alakazamz0r: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "ntfs-3g"
[08:30] <hjmills> mnoir: alex-weej: sudo ifconfig just show stuff for lo
[08:30] <skenmy> Anyone available to help me get this issue sorted out?
[08:30] <gaten> im having some samba issues. im running samba from my ubuntu server (edgy) and trying to connected from my ubuntu desktop (drapper). ive set the passwd w/ smbpasswd and included the user in the /etc/passwd file, but i still can't login. it wont accept my password. any ideas?
[08:30] <mnoir> hjmills: just a brain spasm - sorry
[08:30] <alex-weej> hjmills: then your ethernet hardware has not been discovered
[08:30] <acuozzo> xanex: have you changed your sources.list?
[08:30] <KaLimeRo-> if i burned its allready?
[08:31] <xanex> acuozzo: don't think so
[08:31] <acuozzo> okay
[08:31] <Some_Person> i finally got edgy installed, and my internet magically works, unlike on dapper, where i couldn't get it to work
[08:31] <alex-weej> hjmills: run "lspci" and find your ethernet hardware
[08:31] <acuozzo> Alakaz, would it be available in universe?
[08:31] <Alakazamz0r> dude... xanex
[08:31] <hjmills> alex-weej: no - but how would ubuntu know to look as it wont know its moved from one pc to another
[08:31] <SamChestido> is it possible to hide the gnome-panel in one of the workspaces?
[08:31] <mnoir> hjmills: so dmesg shows no comm-like stuff...
[08:31] <Alakazamz0r> READ THE PAGE I SENT YOU!
[08:31] <alex-weej> hjmills: this stuff really is dynamic
[08:31] <alex-weej> hjmills: we have had dynamic hardware detection for ages :)
[08:31] <Alakazamz0r> First you will need to add a repository to your source.list. Open a terminal and type:
[08:31] <sparkling> hi all
[08:31] <mnoir> yeah - the os has to detect every time!
[08:31] <Alakazamz0r> At the end of the file, just add one of the following mirrors:
[08:32] <alex-weej> SamChestido: no sorry
[08:32] <acuozzo> xanex: you know how to edit your souces.list?
[08:32] <hjmills> alex-weej: odd - the new must be blocked by a memoru of the old
[08:32] <alex-weej> hjmills: i suspect it's more a case of unsupported hardware
[08:32] <alex-weej> hjmills: just find out what it is with lspci
[08:32] <KaLimeRo-> alex-weej u can pme?
[08:32] <mnoir> hj - do you know the right driver for it? can you install and modeprobe it?
[08:32] <hjmills> alex-weej: no - its worked out of the box with dapper before
[08:32] <alex-weej> KaLimeRo-: sure
[08:32] <schlonzo> can anybody pls tell me how i can write on my windoze partition?
[08:32] <alex-weej> hjmills: lspci! now!!!
[08:33] <Captain_Haddock> When I try to start the dhcp server I run into this error message:
[08:33] <mnoir> !ntfs
[08:33] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[08:33] <Captain_Haddock> dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth1 (10.0.0.1).
[08:33] <mike> how can i record sound of what my sound card is playing?
[08:33] <Captain_Haddock> How do I fix this?
[08:33] <alecjw> schlonzo: TRY NTFS-3G
[08:33] <ski-worklap> schlonzo, first get a magic marker and a screwdriver.
[08:33] <alecjw> schlonzo: sorry. caps lock
[08:33] <KaLimeRo-> i need u 2 send me a pm cus im unregistered
[08:33] <MyStiC1985> lspci |grep net <<--gives out your ethernet card
[08:33] <sparkling> someone of you have an ATI x1950 pcie or agp? if so have you tested with ubuntu?
[08:33] <HymnToLife> !register | KaLimeRo-
[08:33] <ubotu> KaLimeRo-: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:33] <acuozzo> Question to everyone: Is there a way to run a bash script at startup which requires sudo (granted that I am not a full sudoer)?
[08:34] <hjmills> mnoir and alex-weej: its 11ab:4620 (marvell gigabit adaptor)
[08:34] <Captain_Haddock> MyStiC1985: that  for me?
[08:34] <tannerld> I got ubuntu installed on my new computer (its boots and everything), but moving windows is slow and glxgears very slowly works.
[08:34] <mnoir> hjmills: i dunno the correct driver....
[08:34] <HymnToLife> tannerld, install correct drivers for your video card
[08:34] <acuozzo> tannerld: it may be that you do not have the 3d accel. drivers installed?
[08:35] <acuozzo> tannerld: do you have NVIDIA, ATI, SIS...etc?
[08:35] <alex-weej> hjmills: type "dmesg | grep -i marvell"
[08:35] <skenmy> Can anyone assist me with my direct rendering problem?
[08:35] <alex-weej> skenmy: just ask
[08:35] <acuozzo> skenmy: What's up?
[08:35] <skenmy> I already did :)
[08:35] <skenmy> Hi all. I'm trying to get my "direct rendering" to show as Yes by installing the NVidia drivers. However it seems that the openglx server is still showing as SGI, and I can't uninstal mesa without uninstaling the whole of X through apt / Synaptic. Would anyone be willing to help me out with that one?
[08:35] <mon^rch> has anyone got experience with NTFS-3G
[08:35] <MyStiC1985> captain_haddock: no for hjmills
[08:35] <schlonzo> he says that i dont have the right to write on my hdb1
[08:35] <acuozzo> skenmy: can't help there...sorry.
[08:35] <Captain_Haddock> MyStiC1985: ah, ok thanks.
[08:35] <schlonzo> root?
[08:35] <skenmy> Okay :)
[08:35] <tannerld> acuozzo: ati
[08:36] <Captain_Haddock> dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth1 (10.0.0.1). <--- anybody know where I can correct this?
[08:36] <acuozzo> ah, one second tannerld...you're in luck.
[08:36] <ski-worklap> Captain_Haddock, probably in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:36] <hjmills> alex-weej: no output - i tried a few other things as well
[08:36] <HymnToLife> or gksudo network-admin if you like nice GUIs
[08:36] <tannerld> acuozzo: thanks :)
[08:36] <acuozzo> tannerld: what card? radeon? etc? (if so)...what numbers?
[08:36] <schlonzo> he says i dont have the right to write on my hdb1
[08:37] <MyStiC1985> has anybody experience in fixing resolution issues in xorg.conf with widescreen notebooks?
[08:37] <alex-weej> hjmills: try "dmesg | grep -i eth"
[08:37] <Captain_Haddock> ski-worklap: it has :
[08:37] <Captain_Haddock> address 10.0.0.1
[08:37] <Captain_Haddock> netmask 255.255.255.0
[08:37] <tannerld> acuozzo: trying to find out...
[08:37] <Captain_Haddock> ski-worklap: so what could be wrong?
[08:37] <swede2> how do i gain the rights to make changes to xorg?
[08:37] <HymnToLife> MyStiC1985, what kind of videocard do you have ?
[08:37] <hjmills> alex-weej: that gives me some info inc a mac addr but i dont know if thats the old or new one
[08:37] <kcinna> hey all
[08:37] <alex-weej> hjmills: do you have the old one still attached?
[08:37] <kcinna> anyone know where i can find firmware upgrades for my dvd burner that work with linux?
[08:37] <acuozzo> tannerld: run 'lspci' (no apostrophe) in the terminal
[08:37] <alex-weej> !paste | hjmills
[08:37] <ubotu> hjmills: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:37] <hjmills> alex-weej: would the kernel that is installed be identical to that in the installer?
[08:38] <alex-weej> hjmills: absolutely
[08:38] <Captain_Haddock> swede2: probably using "sudo"?
[08:38] <acuozzo> tannerld: look around for it
[08:38] <MyStiC1985> HymnToLife: piece of crab shared mem card Intel GMA 950
[08:38] <ski-worklap> Captain_Haddock, hmm i dunno. where are you seeing this error message, exactly?
[08:38] <HymnToLife> !915resolution > MyStiC1985
[08:38] <Captain_Haddock> swede2: "sudo vi filename".
[08:38] <ski-worklap> can you pastebin it and what surrounds it?
[08:38] <acuozzo> MyStiC1985: me too! on my laptop!!!!!!!
[08:38] <Captain_Haddock> ski-worklap: in syslog. I get this when I try starting dhcpd
[08:38] <hjmills> alex-weej: hmmm - the old one was an onboard on a diff mobo - im gonna find a pci card
[08:38] <alex-weej> hjmills: paste the dmesg output onto the paste service
[08:38] <ski-worklap> Captain_Haddock, oh
[08:38] <ski-worklap> in your dhcpd.conf
[08:39] <MyStiC1985> yeah acuzzo. i'll try the fix and contact you back then.
[08:39] <MyStiC1985> thant you HymnOfLive. I'll try
[08:39] <acuozzo> which fix?
[08:39] <HymnToLife> MyStiC1985, 915resolution is what you need
[08:39] <ski-worklap>  /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[08:39] <cacti> I need help with the 'radeon' driver. It appears to be loaded for my Radeon RV200 QW (the wiki says fully supported), but I'm not getting direct rendering . . . HELP!
[08:39] <acuozzo> 915resolution? are you just looking to the change the res?
[08:39] <acuozzo> I am looking to fix the 3d acceleration
[08:39] <alex-weej> cacti: do you have the fglrx driver still installed?
[08:39] <hjmills> alex-weej: i cant - no internet on that pc because of the network
[08:39] <ski-worklap> e.g. subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.254.0 { ... }
[08:39] <cacti> alex-weej: no, I purged that from my system
[08:39] <tannerld> acuozzo: ati radeon x1300 pro
[08:39] <Lin>  #alsa
[08:39] <acuozzo> ok one second tanner
[08:40] <mnoir> Captain_Haddock: what does yer dhcpd config look like?
[08:40] <alex-weej> cacti: what does "glxinfo | grep -i direct" give you?
[08:40] <Captain_Haddock> ski-worklap: ok, so this has to be hand configured? I have this GUI ghdhcpd thinggymebob and all :|
[08:40] <nova> is there a program for linux that can perform like "pc anywhere"
[08:40] <nova> ?
[08:40] <acuozzo> tannerld: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[08:40] <acuozzo> try that guide
[08:40] <MyStiC1985> acuozzo: changing the res is fine, but xorg.conf settings don't match the setting in the gui gnome settings
[08:40] <schlonzo> how can i get the right to write on my windoze partition!?
[08:40] <alex-weej> !vnc | nova
[08:40] <ubotu> nova: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[08:40] <acuozzo> tannerld: (I take no responsibility)
[08:40] <cacti> alex-weej: direct rendering is No and OpenGL renderer string is Mesa GLX Indirect
[08:40] <tannerld> acuozzo: ehe, I'll take a look at it
[08:41] <acuozzo> MyStiC1985: weird
[08:41] <alex-weej> cacti: what about "grep -i direct /var/log/Xorg.0.log"?
[08:41] <Some_Person> how can i completely disable the grub menu?
[08:41] <acuozzo> Anyone know how to execute a bash script at startup which requires sudo?
[08:41] <schlonzo> how can i get the right to write on my windoze partition!?
[08:41] <magic_ninja> Some_Person: you dont want to
[08:41] <mnoir> !grub
[08:41] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:41] <Some_Person> i uncommented hiddenmenu, but it waits 10 seconds to let me press escape to see it
[08:41] <alex-weej> acuozzo: system startup or desktop session startup?
[08:41] <kcinna> anyone know where i can find firmware upgrades for my dvd burner that work with linux?
[08:41] <The_Machine> what's the easiest way to burn a divx movie to an 'actual' movie DVD using linux?  (like, convert-burn on the fly?)
[08:41] <KaLimeRo-> alex-weej pm!?
[08:41] <cacti> alex-weej: lots of stuff, what are we looking for?
[08:41] <Some_Person> and yes, i do want to
[08:42] <acuozzo> alex-weej>: at this point...either
[08:42] <alex-weej> KaLimeRo-: i'm really sorry, i've forgotten my NickServ password and i can't chat back
[08:42] <acuozzo> i just want it to run by the time I get on my desktop and working
[08:42] <Lin> hi all. I wanna enable my surround 5.1 speakers on my nforce2 snd_intel8x0 (an abit nf7 mobo). But even enabling 6 channels , surround (independ or shared), and surround channel my speakers didn't work (just front left/right). Im on ubuntu edgy, alsa 1.0.11, kernel 2.6.17. Any help?
[08:42] <magic_ninja> Some_Person: what are you going to do when you need to use a separate boot kernel or such via grub?
[08:42] <alex-weej> cacti: "Direct rendering is Enabled" or similar
[08:42] <Some_Person> i have a triple-boot, xp, vista, ubuntu, and vista is in the mbr, so i only want one menu
[08:42] <cacti> alex-weej:
[08:42] <cacti> one sec
[08:43] <graft> anyone in here running beryl?
[08:43] <magic_ninja> !grub
[08:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:43] <acuozzo> some_person: installing ubuntu last always works
[08:43] <Some_Person> and why would i want a seperate bot kernel?
[08:43] <KaLimeRo-> u can see my msg?
[08:43] <cacti> alex-weej: http://pastebin.ca/295815
[08:43] <Some_Person> i did install it last
[08:43] <acuozzo> well then
[08:43] <acuozzo> you may be able to
[08:43] <acuozzo> access vista and xp
[08:43] <acuozzo> by going into grup
[08:43] <Some_Person> grub isnt in the mbr because it cant boot vista
[08:43] <magic_ninja> Some_Person: its nice to have 2 or 3 other kernels you can boot from....that way if ther eis a problemw ith one you can use another
[08:43] <mon^rch> is anyone here using NTFS-3G?
[08:43] <alex-weej> cacti: at a terminal type LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[08:43] <acuozzo> alex-weej: so no go? :(
[08:44] <Some_Person> vista's mbr can boot xp, vista, and grub from one menu
[08:44] <alex-weej> cacti: and right at the top you should get some messages about libGL trying to load r200_dri.so or something
[08:44] <cacti> alex-weej: pastebin?
[08:44] <alex-weej> cacti: yes please
[08:44] <alex-weej> acuozzo: there is a system service startup script that you can put stuff in
[08:44] <Some_Person> but i dont want that 10 second thing, i just want it to immediately boot ubuntu
[08:44] <acuozzo> rc.local?
[08:44] <alex-weej> acuozzo: yes, /etc/rc.local
[08:44] <acuozzo> i've tried
[08:44] <cacti> alex-weej: http://pastebin.ca/295821
[08:44] <acuozzo> the problem is
[08:45] <acuozzo> it will not execute because of the sudo
[08:45] <alex-weej> acuozzo: you don't need sudo
[08:45] <alex-weej> acuozzo: that script already runs as root
[08:45] <acuozzo> in my script I do
[08:45] <siv0x> How do i update from ubuntu 6.06 to edgy? is there any way without reformatting?
[08:45] <acuozzo> because it is a setkeycodes script
[08:45] <acuozzo> to enable to acpi hotkeys on my laptop
[08:45] <HymnToLife> !edgy | siv0x
[08:45] <ubotu> siv0x: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[08:45] <acuozzo> which works (entirely) if i execute it manually
[08:46] <alex-weej> cacti: libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib/dri/radeon_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/radeon_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[08:46] <alex-weej> cacti: this is a problem :P
[08:46] <cacti> ok, alex-weej how do I fix the problem?
[08:46] <cacti> install that file alex-weej ?
[08:46] <alex-weej> cacti: i'm finding out what package it belongs to, just a second
[08:47] <The_Machine> what's the easiest way to burn a divx movie to an 'actual' movie DVD using linux?  (like, convert-burn on the fly?)
[08:47] <alex-weej> cacti: it should be part of some mesa package
[08:47] <cacti> alex-weej: thank you ** On Hold **
[08:47] <acuozzo> alex-weej: the script itself uses sudo
[08:47] <robtp> can someone help me with a simple question in a c program?
[08:47] <acuozzo> alex-weej: my script
[08:47] <graft> The_Machine: there's some scripts on kde-apps.org for that sort of thing, but i've never seen a nice all-in-one package to do it
[08:47] <alex-weej> cacti: double check that libgl1-mesa-dri is installed, and if it already is, reinstall it
[08:47] <Some_Person> please, i want to remove that stupid 10 second thing, can i set grub to immediately boot ubuntu, no prompt to press escape?
[08:48] <acuozzo> yes you can
[08:48] <alex-weej> Some_Person: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:48] <Some_Person> ok
[08:48] <metroman> Some_Person: Set the timer to 0.
[08:48] <acuozzo> exactly weej
[08:48] <Some_Person> ok
[08:48] <alex-weej> *timeout
[08:48] <cacti> alex-weej: ** Installing **
[08:48] <The_Machine> graft: that sucks.  THanks for the tip though!
[08:48] <alex-weej> cacti: was it not installed?
[08:48] <acuozzo> alex-weej: any ideas?
[08:48] <alex-weej> acuozzo: no, sorry
[08:48] <Some_Person> now to reboot to test that
[08:48] <cacti> alex-weej: It wasn't installed
[08:48] <acuozzo> alex-weej: it's cool
[08:48] <robtp> ive got a very simple c question, can anyone give me a bit of help with that?
[08:48] <alex-weej> acuozzo: http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu - open a support ticket
[08:48] <acuozzo> thank you :)
[08:49] <cacti> robtp: don't ask to ask, just ask your question. If we know, we'll try to help
[08:49] <tannerld> acuozzo: yay, i think that worked
[08:49] <alex-weej> cacti: it really should have been installed, something is wrong with your system - do you have ubuntu-desktop installed?
[08:49] <MyStiC1985> YEAH!!!!! THANK YOU HymnToLife It's working now!
[08:49] <cacti> alex-weej: nope, I'm actually running Fluxbuntu ;p
[08:49] <alex-weej> cacti: !!
[08:49] <robtp> how is i always one without initialization: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39356/
[08:49] <cacti> alex-weej: but, it uses the dapper base, so the principles behind everything are the same ;p
[08:50] <cacti> alex-weej: ** Install is Complete ** Reboot?
[08:50] <alex-weej> cacti: oh well... it's actually a dependent of xorg - do you not even have that installed?
[08:50] <robtp> the printf statement right after int i = 0; is always tellin me i=1 rather than whatever random val was @ that mem add
[08:50] <tannerld> acuozzo: glx gears isn't doing anything though now :\
[08:50] <alex-weej> cacti: no need
[08:50] <cacti> alex-weej: yes, xorg is installed
[08:50] <luckyone> does anyone know if there is a 64-bit build of Sunbird?
[08:50] <alex-weej> cacti: just run glxinfo now
[08:50] <alex-weej> cacti: it should be working immediately
[08:50] <cacti> sweet
[08:50] <cacti> it is
[08:50] <alex-weej> :D
[08:50] <alex-weej> :] 
[08:51] <robtp> cacti: you have any idea? :)
[08:51] <cacti> I'm not a c programmer robtp
[08:51] <magic_ninja> any one have any reccomendations for some free mmogs or first person shooters
[08:51] <alex-weej> magic_ninja: i like counter-strike :D
[08:51] <robtp> magic_ninja: enemy territory
[08:51] <cacti> magic_ninja: try Wesnoth << search synaptic
[08:51] <MyStiC1985> pong ;)
[08:51] <robtp> can anyone tell me why i always seems to be 1 @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39356/
[08:52] <genius314> Can someone help me? Flash can't play any sound.
[08:52] <magic_ninja> is planeshift any good?
[08:52] <pluma> genius314: That's easy.
[08:52] <robtp> magic_ninja: it will be... someday
[08:52] <pluma> genius314: Get the beta plugin. Replace the existing file with the one in the beta version.
[08:52] <genius314> pluma: Ok.
[08:53] <pluma> genius314: I'm pretty sure there is a tutorial with a link somewhere. I think it's the Flash 9 Beta for Mozilla/Firefox on Linux or something like that.
[08:53] <robtp> nobody on that *easy* c question, why is i always 1 - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39356/
[08:53] <magic_ninja> i want to play cs but i lost my cd key
[08:53] <pluma> genius314: You'll find the file in your .mozilla directory in your home folder, I think.
[08:54] <robtp> genius314: if youre talking about installing flash 9 beta 2, just download the .deb and dpkg -i, it works flawlessly really
[08:54] <siv0x> When i just tried updating to ubuntu 6.10 i got an error box, inside that box it said http://wine.lowvoice.nl/apt/dists/dapper/Release.gpg: Could not connect to wine.lowvoice.nl:80 (81.171.111.184). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[08:54] <genius314> pluma: Ok. Do I get the beta plugin from the flash website?
[08:54] <mnoir> robtp: not many folks are much interested in the seemingly consistent results of a bad programming practice :)
[08:54] <robtp> mnoir: hey, i didnt write it :P im just confused as to why it works
[08:54] <KaLimeRo-> How i can Format and Install the Ubuntu from the CD like i did before with WindowsXP ??
[08:54] <hjmills> alex-weej: i have replaced the network card with a pci one and disabled the old card but i get the same errors
[08:55] <pluma> genius314: I think so.
[08:55] <genius314> pluma: ok.
[08:55] <pluma> genius314: You have to look around a bit, I think. Lemme check
[08:55] <mnoir> robtp: i wasn't criticizing you - i am sure you would never use an uninitialized var
[08:55] <hjmills> alex-weej ubuntu must be still looking for the old card - so much for automatic hardware detection
[08:55] <alex-weej> hjmills: it doesn't look for anything
[08:55] <pluma> genius314: I think that's it: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[08:55] <alex-weej> hjmills: do dmesg > ~/dmesg
[08:55] <alex-weej> put it on a floppy
[08:55] <alex-weej> bring it to your pc
[08:55] <alex-weej> and put it on pastebin
[08:55] <toko123> greetings
[08:56] <robtp> mnoir: well lets not go that far - i might - but do you understand why it consistently seems to be 1?
[08:56] <pluma> genius314: Simple unzip it and replace the existing file in...
[08:56] <genius314> pluma: Ok, thanks.
[08:56] <hjmills> alex-weej: ok
[08:56] <pluma> genius314: ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[08:56] <hjmills> *hunts for floppy and floppy drive....
[08:56] <pluma> libflashplayer.so I think
[08:56] <exs> does anyone know if you're able to take a windows xp vmware image, and extract it onto a physical ntfs partiton - then be able to boot into it with grub?
[08:56] <tannerld> glxgears doesn't show anything after I installed the ati drivers
[08:56] <MyStiC1985> can anybody help me in defining 'constant-aliases' in terminal?
[08:56] <mnoir> robtp: prolly the block loaded into memory from disk to allocate that var is consistent.  I dunno.
[08:57] <MyStiC1985> so that they are not forgotten by opeing a new console window
[08:57] <alex-weej> MyStiC1985: if you want aliases that are set every time you start Bash (your "shell")
[08:57] <KaLimeRo-> How i can Format and Install the Ubuntu from the CD like i did before with WindowsXP ??
[08:57] <mnoir> ask the c compiler writers?
[08:57] <toko123> need help 6.06.lts trying to load banshee gnupod and the like can not load Depends libatk1.0.0(>1.12.1 but 1.11.4 installed?
[08:57] <pluma> genius314: Transparency and stuff like that doesn't work yet, though. Also it seems to be a bit glitchy. Best thing you can get for Linux, though.
[08:57] <alex-weej> MyStiC1985: then edit ~/.bashrc
[08:57] <HymnToLife> toko123, you need to upgrade to Edgy
[08:57] <alex-weej> MyStiC1985: .bashrc is loaded every time you start bash
[08:57] <pluma> genius314: Once you've replaced it, fire up Firefox and check the version of your plugin by loading a Flash page and right-clicking on the Flash app.
[08:57] <mnoir> KaLimeRo-: this is the second time you are asking - can you ask the question a different way?
[08:57] <toko123> thanks
[08:58] <genius314> pluma: Ok.
[08:58] <alex-weej> mnoir: he doesn't know how to do a CD boot from BIOS
[08:58] <robtp> mnoir: i dunno, its an example i saw given so i would imagine whoever wrote it wrote it to work more than once
[08:58] <MyStiC1985> alex-weej: yeah! that was what i was searching for. thank you
[08:58] <siv0x> When i just tried updating to ubuntu 6.10 i got an error box, inside that box it said http://wine.lowvoice.nl/apt/dists/dapper/Release.gpg: Could not connect to wine.lowvoice.nl:80 (81.171.111.184). - connect (111 Connection refused) ?
[08:58] <pluma> hf
[08:58] <alex-weej> MyStiC1985: no problem :)
[08:58] <KaLimeRo-> not really\:
[08:58] <alex-weej> siv0x: are you using the update manager?
[08:58] <HymnToLife> siv0x, automatix is evil, we told you :)
[08:58] <robtp> Hello Channel: are there any people who could help me with a C question?
[08:58] <Infeliz> !tv-out
[08:58] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out on certain NVidia cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition
[08:58] <alex-weej> robtp: what's up?
[08:59] <HymnToLife> !offtopic | robtp
[08:59] <ubotu> robtp: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:59] <siv0x> alex-weej: yes i'm using the update manager.
[08:59] <robtp> alex-weej: why is i always equal to 1 in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39356/
[08:59] <KaLimeRo-> I need to format my comp .. and install the Ubuntu ... how i do that ?
[08:59] <siv0x> HymnToLife: you sure automatix caused this?
[08:59] <hjmills> KaLimeRo-: insert the install disk and set the bios to boot from cd then reboot
[08:59] <HymnToLife> yeah, it added a wine repo that contains only Dapper packages
[09:00] <HymnToLife> so obviously you can't upgrade to Edgy using it, you must change it to an Edgy repo
[09:00] <siv0x> HymnToLife: Can i fix this so i can update?
[09:00] <siv0x> HymnToLife: Blah how do i do this? wish i would have listened now lol
[09:01] <alex-weej> robtp: compiler characteristic
[09:01] <HymnToLife> siv0x, remove that line from your sources.list
[09:01] <HymnToLife> your WINE won't be upgraded though$
[09:02] <siv0x> HymnToLife: how about i remove wine and automatix
[09:02] <siv0x> HymnToLife: Will that work?
[09:02] <HymnToLife> that's even better
[09:02] <HymnToLife> but be sure to remove that line from your sources.list too
[09:02] <siv0x> HymnToLife: okay, one sec
[09:02] <SurfnKid> anyone know good Audacity manuals?
[09:02] <siv0x> HymnToLife: will you explain to me how to remove that line?
[09:03] <HymnToLife> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:03] <HymnToLife> search for the WINE lines and delete them
[09:03] <HymnToLife> or comment them out
[09:03] <tannerld> glxgears doesn't show anything after I installed the ati drivers
[09:03] <Tweekster> is there a switch for mkisofs so that i can add have a couple of directories i want to add, and it keeps the root directory.  example /share has subdirectors of listings, data, apps, managers.   and on the dvd i want to have: data, apps, listings, managers as the main directories, the command i am using is : mkisofs -o listings.iso --iso-level=2 -J -R -l -m Archive listings managers data,  and right now the result is just dropp
[09:04] <andreas__> hello
[09:04] <HymnToLife> !hi | andreas__
[09:04] <ubotu> andreas__: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:04] <andreas__> can anyone help with this problem:
[09:05] <toko123> HymnToLife: thanks just started upgrade from 6.06lts to 6.10
[09:05] <HighLife> Is is possible to copy a cd image with k3b?
[09:05] <andreas__> I use ubuntu 6.05, but can't find a package which exists in 6.10... how do I get hold of it?
[09:06] <siv0x> HymnToLife: delete all WINE and Automatix lines?
[09:06] <magic_ninja> can you guys reccomend a free, nice fps aside from enemy territory?
[09:06] <HymnToLife> siv0x, pastebin your sourcs.list, just to be sure
[09:06] <HymnToLife> !pastebin
[09:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:06] <siv0x> magic_ninja: americas army
[09:06] <Kesman> magic_ninja: nexuiz
[09:07] <MyStiC1985> going off. thx @all for support cu
[09:07] <administrator__> anyone ever setup an iSCSI target on linux before?
[09:07] <HighLife> Does anyone know how to copy a cd image?
[09:07] <HighLife> dvd*
[09:08] <alex-weej> HighLife: "dd"
[09:08] <alex-weej> HighLife: or a tool like gnome baker or k3b
[09:08] <Some_Person> how can i hide vfat/ntfs drive labels?
[09:08] <alex-weej> Some_Person: hide them from what?
[09:08] <HighLife> Yes but I'd like to save it to my harddrive in an image file
[09:08] <Some_Person> make them not display on the desktop
[09:08] <tannerld> glxgears doesn't show anything after I installed the ati drivers; how can i fix that?
[09:09] <Some_Person> like back in breezy, it showed the name of the folder the drive was mounted to
[09:09] <Some_Person> in dapper and edgy, it shows the drive label
[09:09] <administrator__> HighLife, an encrypted dvd?
[09:09] <wyatt_earp> anyone ever have issues with vmware-server on amd64?
[09:09] <HighLife> no
[09:09] <HighLife> i just need the image
[09:09] <mike> how can i ripp streaming audio?
[09:09] <HighLife> just for back up on my drive
[09:09] <Some_Person> how can i make it not show the drive label?
[09:10] <Kesman> tannerld: what ati driver? fglrx or the open source one?
[09:10] <administrator__> HighLife, dd if=/dev/dvd of=dvd.iso
[09:10] <tannerld> Kesman: fglrx
[09:10] <SupremacyGnu> Hello! I have problems with my USB flash disk. When I plug it in my mouse freeze as if the USB steels all the power needed. Is this because of my power supply or something else? I have a 230 w power supply. Thanks
[09:10] <HighLife> Confused lol (I'm a windows guy)
[09:10] <davidwinter> hi all
[09:10] <mike> how can i rip streaming audio fromr the internet?
[09:10] <davidwinter> does anyone know of a app for Ubuntu that is kind of like Textmate for Mac OS X?
[09:10] <Kesman> tannerld: what does your fglrxinfo say?
[09:11] <davidwinter> it could be the only thing preventing me from switching to Ubuntu fully
[09:11] <alex-weej> davidwinter: what's textmate?
[09:11] <n2diy> davidwinter: what does textmate do?
[09:11] <mike> davidwinter, what is textmate?
[09:11] <lerneaen_hydra> is there any good graphical app for mounting cd/dvd images to a folder?
[09:11] <alex-weej> i think he has been asked enough times
[09:11] <tannerld> KenSentMe: http://pastebin.ca/295867
[09:11] <DeeTahPanLtah> hi guys,where will i find netinst cd image,like in debian?
[09:12] <alex-weej> DeeTahPanLtah: i don't think we have one :(
[09:12] <HymnToLife> !netinst | DeeTahPanLtah
[09:12] <mike> what program in ubuntu will rip streaming audio?
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netinst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <DeeTahPanLtah> seems like ubuntu doesn't know ;p
[09:12] <mike> lol
[09:12] <DeeTahPanLtah> ubotu**
[09:12] <DeeTahPanLtah> damnit
[09:12] <cacti> shoot
[09:12] <robtp> can anyone tell me why beagle isnt indexing most of my files?
[09:12] <cacti> who was it helping me in here before?
[09:12] <HighLife> oh well ill figure the dvd thing out later
[09:12] <atlef> alternate cd will do this i think
[09:13] <robtp> cacti: i mightve been
[09:13] <siv0x> HymnToLife: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39357/
[09:13] <Kesman> tannerld: dunno about that then, what graphics card do you use?
[09:13] <HighLife> but i am having problems with my sound card
[09:13] <cacti> robtp: no, it was another "r" person
[09:13] <mike> how can i rip streamign audio on ubuntu?
[09:13] <HighLife> It's worked in the past
[09:13] <tannerld> Kesman: ati radeon x1300 pro
[09:13] <cacti> the Radeon driver problem I was having
[09:13] <alex-weej> cacti: me? :E
[09:13] <HymnToLife> siv0x, all right, delete all the Automatix crap
[09:13] <ski-worklap> mike: mencoder or ffmpeg
[09:13] <alex-weej> cacti: no r's in my name lol
[09:13] <siv0x> HymnToLife: ok
[09:13] <mike> ski-worklap, how do they work?
[09:13] <cacti> alex-weej: o yes :) my resolution just fell apart to the smallest possible
[09:13] <MrBallZ> i'm using kernel 2.6.15-23-686 , and the one I see i can upgrade to in Adept is to   2.6.17-10-386  ... is it recomended .... is there a 2.6.17-10-686  ???
[09:14] <alex-weej> cacti: eeeehneh
[09:14] <HighLife> anyone willing to help me with my sound card?
[09:14] <cacti> alex-weej: yeah, I don't know where I got an "r"
[09:14] <Kesman> tannerld: weird, it should say something like mine here: OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON X700 Generic
[09:14] <robtp> any willing to help me with beagle not indexing anything for me?
[09:14] <Kesman> tannerld: not just generic
[09:14] <alex-weej> cacti: what happened, did you restart x11?
[09:14] <tannerld> Kesman: hmm
[09:14] <cacti> alex-weej: I restarted the machine
[09:14] <alex-weej> cacti: yes then :P
[09:14] <cacti> alex-weej: that was bad, eh?
[09:15] <alex-weej> cacti: shouldn't have been :P
[09:15] <Kesman> tannerld: how about: glxinfo | grep rendering ?
[09:15] <siv0x> HymnToLife: what about were it says #AUTOMATIX REPOS END. ?
[09:15] <alex-weej> cacti: check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:15] <alex-weej> cacti: look for the bit where it describes available resolutions
[09:15] <HymnToLife> It has a # at the start so it's a comment
[09:15] <tannerld> Kesman: direct rendering: yes
[09:15] <cacti> alex-weej: what should I grep?
[09:15] <VMT2007> ask shuttleworth? :P
[09:15] <HymnToLife> whether you leave it or not doesn't matter
[09:15] <alex-weej> cacti: nothing, pipe it to less and scroll through it
[09:16] <Kesman> tannerld: but there's nothing in the glxgears window?
[09:16] <cacti> shoot, I don't remember how to do that alex-weej
[09:16] <siv0x> HymnToLife: So just delete from #AUTOMATIX REPOS START to #AUTOMATIX REPOS END?
[09:16] <ruben> HI, to access to an AP using iwconfig, the AP has 128 bits encription, this is the way to set the enc key? or what is the way?
[09:16] <ruben> iwconfig wlan0 key F9D5-11FB-0FFD-01DB-1912-1B35-2C
[09:16] <HymnToLife> exactly
[09:16] <cacti> (or I never knew)
[09:16] <ruben> it is ok?
[09:16] <alex-weej> cacti: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less
[09:16] <gaten> i cant mount my vfat drive as rw for users. my /etc/fstab line is such: UUID=3ECF-D98B  /media/hdb5  vfat  isocharset=utf8,umask=000 0  0
[09:16] <alex-weej> cacti: or just less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:16] <cacti> and look for resolutions?
[09:17] <tannerld> Kesman: nope, just black
[09:17] <logivision> I installed codeweaver on linux and am installing a program that requires me to select a server. The program by default is looking for "My Network". How do i make the program see the server (it's a windows server)"
[09:17] <alex-weej> cacti: yeah er
[09:17] <nkRush> Hi, I've tested a custom splashscreen for gnome and uninstalled it, but now I have some blue splashscreen instead of the brownish default one. How do I restore the original splashscreen?
[09:17] <alex-weej> cacti: with RADEON
[09:17] <Kesman> tannerld: how about fgl_glxgears ?
[09:17] <alex-weej> cacti: type "/Supported VESA" in less
[09:17] <alex-weej> cacti: to search for the string "Supported VESA"
[09:18] <HighLife> Does anyone know how I could get my alc655 sound chipset working. It has worked on ubuntu in the past and im not sure what is wrong.
[09:18] <cacti> alex-weej: pattern not found
[09:18] <alex-weej> cacti: hit home
[09:18] <alex-weej> then try again
[09:18] <mike> ski-worklap, is there a graphical one, and a non terminal one?
[09:18] <davidwinter> Textmate is a text editor
[09:18] <alex-weej> cacti: (it only searches down)
[09:18] <logivision> I installed codeweaver on linux and am installing a program that requires me to select a server. The program by default is looking for "My Network". How do i make the program see the server (it's a windows server)"
[09:18] <davidwinter> http://macromates.com
[09:18] <cacti> alex-weej: nope
[09:18] <alex-weej> davidwinter: what do you use a text editor for?
[09:18] <mike> davidwinter, ubuntu has its own text editor
[09:18] <tannerld> Kesman: nothing
[09:19] <alex-weej> cacti: can you send your Xorg.0.log file to pastebin?
[09:19] <tannerld> Kesman: thers fps output to the terminal though
[09:19] <alex-weej> !paste | cacti
[09:19] <ubotu> cacti: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:19] <siv0x> HymnToLife: are you there?
[09:19] <davidwinter> I use it for programming
[09:19] <BlackMad> wow
[09:19] <HymnToLife> last time I checked, yeah, I was :p
[09:19] <mike> how can i record streaming audio with sound recorder application in ubuntu?
[09:19] <davidwinter> but it has some nifty features
[09:19] <BlackMad> too many people here
[09:19] <logivision> I installed codeweaver on linux and am installing a program that requires me to select a server. The program by default is looking for "My Network". How do i make the program see the server (it's a windows server)"
[09:19] <siv0x> you didnt anser me though.
[09:19] <emun> is it possible to remove the free turboprint banner from prints with turboprint
[09:19] <alex-weej> davidwinter: many hackers use emacs/vi or their Gtk equivalents
[09:19] <alex-weej> davidwinter: or eclipse
[09:20] <alex-weej> davidwinter: or i use gedit with whatever plugins help me along
[09:20] <HymnToLife> [21:16]  <siv0x> HymnToLife: So just delete from #AUTOMATIX REPOS START to #AUTOMATIX REPOS END? <= to this, I did, by the affirmative :)
[09:20] <logivision> I installed codeweaver on linux and am installing a program that requires me to select a server. The program by default is looking for "My Network". How do i make the program see the server (it's a windows server)"
[09:20] <HymnToLife> !repeat | logivision
[09:20] <ubotu> logivision: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:21] <Kesman> tannerld: then I don't have any clues.. you could try to reinstall the driver and all the packages with it, but the result would be the same I think
[09:21] <logivision> thank you
[09:21] <logivision> !patience
[09:21] <logivision> lol
[09:21] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:21] <siv0x> HymnToLife: k.
[09:21] <mike> can i have help with sound recorder in ubuntu?
[09:21] <tannerld> Kesman: thanks anyway :)
[09:21] <cacti> alex-weej: http://pastebin.ca/295876
[09:21] <cacti> alex-weej: maybe I should reconfigure the xserver after loading that driver?
[09:21] <alex-weej> cacti: that wasn't really a driver
[09:22] <alex-weej> cacti: that was a userland library for doing DRI stuff
[09:22] <siv0x> HymnToLife: K done, just exit terminal now?
[09:22] <Everflex> what is the hard drive and partition manager in ubuntu called?
[09:22] <cacti> alex-weej: but maybe it didn't know it could do those resolutions with direct rendering and it blacklisted them?
[09:22] <ubuntufromlinux> hi!
[09:22] <fmachado> Everflex, you can use gParted
[09:22] <KaLimeRo-> alex-weej: i sucsse to enter the boot what i need 2 do now if i want to format before i install ?
[09:22] <mnoir> Everflex: gparted?
[09:22] <HymnToLife> !hi | ubuntufromlinux
[09:22] <ubotu> ubuntufromlinux: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:23] <Everflex> thanks!
[09:23] <alex-weej> cacti: it doesn't quite work like that, but doing a "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will fix the situation
[09:23] <ubuntufromlinux> good system
[09:23] <alex-weej> cacti: follow the instructions (BE CAREFUL because if you make a mistake you can't go back, it's a bitch :P)
[09:23] <tannerld> !hi \ ubotu
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi \ ubotu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <tannerld> !hi | ubotu
[09:23] <ubotu> ubotu: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:23] <alex-weej> cacti: when it asks you to choose to write monitor sync ranges, choose NO - it keeps your config clean.
[09:23] <Everflex> fmachado: why isn't gParted in the System menu?
[09:24] <alex-weej> KaLimeRo-: when you start the CD it should take you to the Ubuntu desktop
[09:24] <alex-weej> KaLimeRo-: when you run the installer, it will ask you for somewhere on your disk to install it, one of the options will be "ERASE ENTIRE DISK"
[09:24] <alex-weej> KaLimeRo-: choose that one
[09:24] <fmachado> Everflex, good question. :)
[09:24] <alex-weej> Everflex: it is...
[09:24] <ski-worklap> mike, there probably is a graphical one, but i don't know what it is. try google
[09:24] <Everflex> alex-weej, it is?
[09:24] <mnoir> !info gparted
[09:25] <ubotu> gparted: GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.5-1.1ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 314 kB, installed size 1588 kB
[09:25] <alex-weej> Everflex: System -> Administration -> GNOME Partition Editor
[09:25] <KaLimeRo-> 10x (: u halped me a lot
[09:25] <alex-weej> Everflex: of course, you have to install it
[09:25] <mnoir> Everflex: did you install it?
[09:25] <magic_ninja> i was wondering...is there a tool similar to DAP for windows that accelerates downloads by allowing you to make 2 or 3 simultaneous connections to a server and such (or does firefox's download manager already do that)
[09:25] <alex-weej> KaLimeRo-: no problem, i hope you have fun :P)
[09:25] <Everflex> alex-weej, oh okay. isn't in installed by default?
[09:25] <KaLimeRo-> (:
[09:25] <alex-weej> Everflex: no it isn't
[09:25] <fmachado> alex-weej, he asked "by default"
[09:25] <Everflex> alex-weej, ok. thanks!
[09:25] <alex-weej> fmachado: my mistake :P
[09:25] <mnoir> Evas the above brief sez - it is optional
[09:25] <cacti> alex-weej: reboot?
[09:25] <alex-weej> cacti: no
[09:26] <cacti> lol
[09:26] <alex-weej> cacti: do you know how to switch VTs?
[09:26] <cacti> alex-weej: VT ?
[09:26] <alex-weej> cacti: just reboot :P
[09:26] <Some_Person> is there any way at all to make ubuntu not show volume labels like in breezy?
[09:26] <cacti> k
[09:26] <alex-weej> Some_Person: show them WHERE?
[09:26] <Some_Person> on the desktop, on volumes
[09:27] <emun> since my printer cannot print in ubuntu , i tried to use turboprint but get a banner on erery print job , how can i remove this
[09:27] <MrBallZ> anyone knows how good performance does the Intel GMA 950 Graphics card has under linux, compared to Ati and Nvidia using propietary drivers ?
[09:27] <alex-weej> Some_Person: do you want to hide the volumes completely? or just the names?
[09:27] <Some_Person> just the names
[09:27] <siv0x> HymnToLife: How do i make these changes perminent.?
[09:27] <alex-weej> Some_Person: are you sure? you want just the icon without a name!?
[09:28] <tannerld> glxgears doesn't show anything after I installed the ati drivers; how can i fix that?
[09:28] <Some_Person> back in breezy, it showed the name of the folder the volume was mounted to, can i make it do that?
[09:28] <alex-weej> Some_Person: i don't think so
[09:28] <HymnToLife> [21:27]  <siv0x> HymnToLife: How do i make these changes perminent.? <= Ctrl+O to save, Enter to confirm and Ctrl+X to exit nano
[09:28] <alex-weej> Some_Person: it's generally considered that it's much more friendly that your volumes show up as "FAMILY GUY SEASON 1" than "sda"
[09:29] <cacti> alex-weej: worked
[09:29] <alex-weej> cacti: tadaa
[09:29] <Some_Person> i'd rather have it the other way
[09:29] <Valmarko> Someone help me on finding a 3d - like-doom game ?
[09:29] <alex-weej> cacti: i really have no idea why it should have broken but nm
[09:29] <alex-weej> Some_Person: bring it up on Launchpad as a support request, and see what happens
[09:29] <HymnToLife> Valmarko, Unreal has native Linux builds
[09:29] <Afief> Valmarko: AFAIK all the doom legacy stuff was released under GPL
[09:29] <erUSUL> Valmarko: doom3, just buy it
[09:30] <emun> turboprint help , anybody
[09:30] <Valmarko> thanks :)
[09:30] <alex-weej> Valmarko: good games are rarely free :P
[09:30] <siv0x> HymnToLife: Thanks
[09:30] <siv0x> HymnToLife: Now just go on with my install like i was going to before i got the error?
[09:30] <Afief> Valmarko: there is also Tremolous and Nexis i think
[09:30] <HymnToLife> alex-weej, Frozen Bubble and SuperTux are good enough for me :p
[09:30] <alex-weej> HymnToLife: haha
[09:30] <HighLife> Whats the easiest way to find the resolution of a movie?
[09:31] <HymnToLife> siv0x, in your sources.list, change all occurrences of 'dapper' to 'edgy', then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:31] <Afief> HighLife: right click and go to the video tab? if not run it through mplayer in the terminal and get the info from it's output
[09:31] <alex-weej> HighLife: he means right click the file and choose "Properties"
[09:32] <alex-weej> HighLife: then the Video tab
[09:32] <HighLife> thank u
[09:32] <Some_Person> then can i make it so that volumes dont show on the desktop?
[09:32] <Afief> alex-weej: right, sorry for the mis-information
[09:32] <Two-Six> has anybody got madwifi to work?
[09:33] <rogue780> is there a way to kill the xserver via ssh? and then restart it?
[09:33] <HymnToLife> rogue780, sudo /etc/init.d ?dm restart
[09:33] <erUSUL> rogue780: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:34] <Two-Six> also I have a D-Link G650+ which I think has an Atheros chipset.  ANybody got one of these to work with WPA?
[09:34] <ubut1> hello you ubuntu guru
[09:34] <HymnToLife> typo, it's /etc/init.d/?dm
[09:34] <ubut1> how Do I install x server on ubuntu server?
[09:34] <HymnToLife> ubut1, only X or a whole DE ?
[09:34] <Some_Person> can i make volumes not show on the desktop?
[09:35] <alex-weej> Afief: not far wrong :P
[09:35] <rogue780> erUSUL: HymnToLife: that just hangs the xserver
[09:35] <alex-weej> Some_Person: now THAT's easy
[09:35] <ubut1> OK GUY, I want to install x on Ubuntu server, how do you do it?
[09:35] <Some_Person> ok, how do i do it?
[09:35] <HymnToLife> ubut1, only X or a whole DE ?
[09:35] <ubut1> Just a simple x window manager HYmntolife
[09:36] <ubut1> I don't want full bloated gnome or kde
[09:36] <alex-weej> Some_Person: gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible
[09:36] <ubut1> maybe a icefree, or window maker
[09:36] <HymnToLife> ubut1, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg I'd guess
[09:36] <Some_Person> thanks
[09:36] <ubut1> I 'll try that Thanks HymnToLife
[09:37] <DarkLinux> hey any good books about administration or cd
[09:37] <thats> can i install ubuntu with graphical interface and then set it up as a web server?
[09:37] <mnoir> thats: yes
[09:37] <HymnToLife> DarkLinux, what kind of administration ?
[09:38] <HymnToLife> System, network...
[09:38] <thats> mnoir..thanks
[09:38] <DarkLinux> HymnToLife: i hope both
[09:38] <DarkLinux> whats the diff
[09:38] <DarkLinux> darklinux: yeah
[09:38] <skukza> do debain .debs work with ubuntu?
[09:38] <graft> one is fixing machines, the other is setting up networks...
[09:38] <HymnToLife> for network Linux Network Administrator's Guide (O'Reilly) is a must-have
[09:38] <DarkLinux> skuza they work fine
[09:38] <graft> skukza: yeah, usually, though it's not always a good idea
[09:39] <HymnToLife> for sysadmin, Linux is a nutshell (O'REilly too) has always served me well
[09:39] <siv0x> HymnToLife: Okay its installing
[09:39] <skukza> oh
[09:39] <DarkLinux> skuza ubuntu is based on debian
[09:39] <skukza> thats why i assume they work
[09:39] <HymnToLife> in*
[09:39] <graft> skukza: if it's something critical avoid it.. if it's some obscure third-party thingy, go ahead
[09:39] <skukza> ok well heres a first bash at cvs then...
[09:39] <DarkLinux> HymnToLife> have links
[09:39] <graft> skukza: cvs ought to bein ubuntu repos...
[09:40] <HymnToLife> you can get both of them from Amazon for quite cheap
[09:40] <mmmgaj> fgjfgdfgjkf
[09:40] <skukza> what a considence i just opened synaptic to look for it :P
[09:40] <vrv> Hello. Is it possible to use dual monitors in Ubuntu?
[09:40] <graft> yes, vrv
[09:40] <shreeve> how can I control the CPU speed? it's throttling down to much, i wanna use max speed when plugged in with AC power
[09:40] <graft> though i dunno how to do it...
[09:41] <DarkLinux> ebooks are cheeper ;)
[09:41] <thats> i am going to try and set a web server with graphical interface installation any book or manual i can get or buy?...i amworking eith windows swrvers this will be my first attempt with linux
[09:41] <vrv> Thank you, graft.
[09:41] <HymnToLife> shreeve, frequency will increase automagically when you'll need it to
[09:41] <zachary6969> beryl supports dual monitors too
[09:41] <DarkLinux> can u give the links in amazon
[09:41] <mnoir> !lamp
[09:41] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:41] <HymnToLife> !lamp | thats
[09:41] <ubotu> thats: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:41] <HymnToLife> damn, pwn3d :(
[09:41] <skukza> well if this works i can do away with windows
[09:42] <logivision> Hey, I'm using Ubuntu and I've installed Crossweaver. I'm trying to install a program that needs to access a server during installation (a constant connection must be established while the program is running as well). During installation it goes to select the location of the server but it's automatically selecting "My Network" since it's a window's installation. How do I go about setting it up so it can see the network properly?
[09:42] <dwhsix> anyone here familiar with midi (hardware, not software)?
[09:42] <alex-weej> dwhsix: hello
[09:43] <dwhsix> so what would I need to hook a keyboard that has midi-out to my Ubuntu box?
[09:43] <alex-weej> logivision: firstly the product is called Crossover, (and it's by a company called Codeweavers)
[09:43] <shreeve> HymnToLife: how can I force it to speed up? Is there an application that lets me control the CPU speed?
[09:43] <alex-weej> logivision: secondly, you need to ask their support channel, because not many people here use it
[09:44] <siv0x> HymnToLife: Is this going to pretty much reformatt me, or am i going to have all the programs i had before, just on 6.10?
[09:44] <logivision> yea i just relized the typo and was about to correct myself
[09:44] <shreeve> HymnToLife: Or, is the default throttling "so good" that it's not even needed?
[09:44] <alex-weej> dwhsix: does the keyboard have a USB interface or just MIDI outputs?
[09:44] <logivision> alix-weej: I'm asking in their channel to right now, but unfortunitally they apparently aren't very active in there
[09:44] <dwhsix> alex-weej: I believe only MIDI... hang on I'll go check :-)
[09:45] <alex-weej> dwhsix: if it has a USB interface, then it has a class-compliant MIDI interface built into it and it's very easy - you just plug and play
[09:45] <alex-weej> dwhsix: otherwise, you need some MIDI hardware. most sound cards come with a MIDI port
[09:45] <HymnToLife> shreeve, kill powernowd if you want to disable it but I wouldn't do it
[09:45] <alex-weej> dwhsix: it either looks like a d-sub or a DIN
[09:45] <ezenu> anyone have problems activating windows on a vmware virtual machine? My internet connection works fine with it
[09:45] <DarkLinux> three years in linux and still feel like anoob
[09:45] <DarkLinux> dam
[09:45] <HymnToLife> siv0x, it will upgrade all your packages to Edgy, if possible
[09:46] <shreeve> HymnToLife: can I run powernowd as a application? is there a "controller" for the CPU speed?
[09:46] <alex-weej> DarkLinux: try using something like Gentoo for a year on a different computer
[09:46] <alex-weej> DarkLinux: or plain debian, or slackware
[09:46] <dwhsix> alex-weej: yeah, it's only MIDI... it's a Yamaha PSR-290
[09:46] <HymnToLife> or FreeBSD \o/
[09:46] <alex-weej> dwhsix: ok, read up :P
[09:46] <DarkLinux> i only got my old pc alone
[09:46] <DarkLinux> nothing more
[09:46] <dwhsix> alex-weej: am I better off just buying a piano kbd w/ usb
[09:46] <alex-weej> dwhsix: er
[09:47] <DarkLinux> gentoo is fine but it needs internet access to install it
[09:47] <alex-weej> dwhsix: if you want to do decent music production, you'll need a good sound card which will have a MIDI interface anyway
[09:47] <alex-weej> dwhsix: it's up to you
[09:47] <dwhsix> alex-weej: recommendations?
[09:47] <power83> A question: ow can I change the var $LANG?
[09:47] <dwhsix> alex-weej: where can I read up?
[09:47] <alex-weej> dwhsix: in the channel lol, i meant ^^
[09:47] <DarkLinux> man i used slackware for the last year vmware cli only no gui
[09:48] <alex-weej> dwhsix: "otherwise, you need some MIDI hardware. most sound cards come with a MIDI port"
[09:48] <DarkLinux> i can sey it helped me alot to stand linux
[09:49] <dwhsix> alex-weej: aha.  I wasn't keeping up (which can be a problem w/ 930+ people in the room)
[09:49] <alex-weej> dwhsix: indeed :)
[09:49] <DarkLinux> i think slackware will be awise option
[09:49] <Lin> someone can help me to configure 5.1 sound? in windows everyrthing is working (this mean, wiring and hardware is ok) But in linux I just have front channels. Card is nvidia nforce 2  Realtek ALC658D driver snd_intel8x0. Using Edgy.
[09:49] <power83> how can I change the $LANG vars???
[09:50] <Lin> LANG=new_value
[09:50] <HymnToLife> power83, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:50] <DarkLinux> cool
[09:50] <HymnToLife> chaging it manually seems a bit harsh to me :p
[09:50] <alex-weej> power83: System -> Administration -> Language Support
[09:51] <simonvc> Hi guys, i was wondering if you can help me with somthing. I want to create a minimal ubuntu to run under QEMU. Just console stuff, no X or anything, and i want to keep it under 800M. Is there an easy way to do this or what should i do?
[09:51] <power83> Thanks, now I try
[09:52] <Flannel> simonvc: get the alternate CD, install the "server" option, it'll install a minimal (GUI-less) installation
[09:52] <Maheanuu> Has anyone in here ever set up a Raid5 array under Dapper???  Did you go software or hardware, and what were your results??
[09:52] <simonvc> @flannel, thanks. any idea how big it is?
[09:52] <power83> HymnToLife, there aren't a mode to edit manually $LANG???
[09:52] <power83> wich file?
[09:52] <Lin> power83: .bashrc
[09:53] <Lin> put EXPORT LANG=NEW_VALUE
[09:53] <Lin> sorry
[09:53] <Lin> export LANG=new_value
[09:53] <Maheanuu> I want to use it as a desktop, and a server, but am needing to find a way to get the raid5 werking
[09:53] <HighLife> Hey how can I get mencoder to utilize both cores on my cpu?
[09:53] <power83> Lin, I havven't it on my homedir.where is .bashrc system???
[09:53] <Scorpion_Script> hi
[09:53] <Scorpion_Script> :P
[09:53] <Lin> ls -l ~/.bashrc
[09:53] <Lin> you have it ;-)
[09:53] <Flannel> simonvc: nope, I never checked.  The alternate iso is 700mb, so it can't be more than that (the CD includes the GUI and extra stuff on it).  If bandwidth is an issue, you can use the minimal iso, to just download the packages you'll ultimately need.
[09:53] <power83> Lin, no I haven't
[09:54] <AlexC_> morning all
[09:54] <simonvc> @flannel, thanks, ill try it now.
[09:54] <Lin> power83: create it. ;-)
[09:54] <Lin> power83: are you as root? righT?
[09:54] <Scorpion_Script> http://www.scnchat.com/chatroom.php?rhx=477261706576696e6545646765                     -    very nice chat room
[09:54] <HighLife> anyone?
[09:54] <Scorpion_Script> :D
[09:54] <power83> Lin,  but of course I want to change the system LANG, not my user only
[09:54] <Lin> power83: dpkg-reconfigure is the fastest way
[09:54] <Scorpion_Script> lin
[09:54] <power83> okay
[09:54] <Lin> power83: someone here told you before.
[09:54] <Scorpion_Script> hello
[09:54] <Lin> Scorpion_Script: hi.
[09:54] <Scorpion_Script> :S
[09:55] <skukza> anyone here use cedega?
[09:55] <Scorpion_Script> no one speaks to me
[09:55] <Scorpion_Script> :(
[09:55] <power83> but anyone know in wich files is wirtten $LANG??????????????
[09:55] <Lin> Scorpion_Script: dont bother with this chat thing.
[09:55] <AlexC_> Scorpion_Script: stop with the spam
[09:55] <Scorpion_Script> sorry
[09:55] <Scorpion_Script> i am first time here
[09:55] <AlexC_> skukza: I have used it, but not often - why?
[09:55] <Lin> Scorpion_Script: then be polite.
[09:55] <Scorpion_Script> what this chat room name
[09:55] <DarkLinux> all: http://www.flazx.com/ebook2747.php
[09:55] <Flannel> Scorpion_Script: this channel is for support, #ubuntu-offtopic is for general chat
[09:55] <DarkLinux> link on
[09:55] <DarkLinux> fast
[09:55] <Scorpion_Script> okay i need one help
[09:56] <skukza> how much of a performace hit is it over playing on windows?
[09:56] <gOldZahN> hey...some here with knowledge of beryl? how to edit the theme with emerald??
[09:56] <Lin> power83: /etc/environment
[09:56] <skukza> and how easy it to use?
[09:56] <AlexC_> skukza: well I've only tried one game, and in Windows I get 200fps yet in Cedega I get around 90
[09:56] <Flannel> gOldZahN: try #beryl or #ubuntu-xgl or even #xgl
[09:56] <Scorpion_Script> lin i came this chat room thru script
[09:56] <power83> "echo $LANG" is "en_US.UTF-8"..........I do't want UFT-8 but iso8859....
[09:56] <Scorpion_Script> but how can i cmow thru explorer
[09:56] <DarkLinux> xhl sucks
[09:56] <skukza> and how easy is it to use?
[09:56] <Scorpion_Script> here
[09:56] <DarkLinux> its sucks memery
[09:56] <AlexC_> Scorpion_Script: stop pressing enter damm it!
[09:57] <Lin> good.. then stay here.. be polite.. and learn something
[09:57] <power83> Lin, do you understand?
[09:57] <jcrewd> anyone have luck connecting to an odbc database?
[09:57] <Lin> power83: that file? sure
[09:57] <AlexC_> skukza: remember though, anything about 27fps will see smooth as that's around the fps the eye see's at ... so there will be no noticeable difference between 90 and 200
[09:57] <Scorpion_Script> but how can i cmow thru explorer
[09:57] <Scorpion_Script> but how can i cmow thru explorer
[09:57] <Scorpion_Script> lin i came this chat room thru script
[09:57] <DarkLinux> what seems to be the problem jcrwed
[09:57] <AlexC_> Scorpion_Script: do you not understand how not to spam?
[09:57] <Scorpion_Script> can i have the link tro come here
[09:57] <Scorpion_Script> can i have the link tro come here
[09:57] <power83> Lin, I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:57] <power83> thanks
[09:57] <Scorpion_Script> lin
[09:58] <Scorpion_Script> can u help me
[09:58] <skukza> AlexC_, supposedly the eye can only see 13fps
[09:58] <Lin> power83: Scorpion_Script with?
[09:58] <Wavesonics> I'm looking to install XGame, but it is not in any of the standard Ubuntu repositories, does anyone know of a deb package anywhere for it?
[09:58] <AlexC_> skukza: 13fps it is then =)
[09:58] <ezenu> Anyone using vmware ever have issues activating Windows XP with it?
[09:58] <skukza> anyway im sure this monitor doesnt support more than 60hz anyway
[09:58] <AlexC_> skukza: though, 12 fps is a bit load
[09:58] <AlexC_> s/load/low
[09:58] <skukza> ya
[09:58] <jcrewd> Dark Linux:  various, end result i want to use a windows app in wine.  i need to connect to an odbc db to do so.  i have tried using unixodbc but it is kind of cryptic (using the db2 driver)
[09:59] <logivision> Hey, I'm using Ubuntu and I've installed CrossOver. I'm trying to install a program that needs to access a server during installation (a constant connection must be established while the program is running as well). During installation it goes to select the location of the server but it's automatically selecting "My Network" since it's a window's installation. How do I go about setting it up so it can see the network properly?
[09:59] <skukza> right well seeing as my games arnt going to run under wine im going to go ahread and "buy" cegeda
[09:59] <javb> Installed Xgl/Compiz .. didnt like it.. removed it and placed the backup files (xorg.conf and /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom) to their original place. but when starting GDM, it says "No servers were defined in the configuration file and XDMCP was disable. This can only be a configuration error. GDM has started a single server for you. You should log in and fix the configuration. Note that automatic and timed logins are disable." Any idea why this is appearing. I hi
[09:59] <javb> t ENTER on that message and starts normally. just with a weird login manager. (Ubuntu Edgy)
[09:59] <AlexC_> skukza: I "brought" it to hehe =)
[09:59] <MDCore> hey all. I'm trying to install ubuntu on a laptop that doesn't have a cd-rom, or stiffy drive, and won't boot off usb. Is it possible to install of either an iso or copied files that are stored on a windows partition ?
[10:00] <skukza> my my arnt we all good little boys and girls
[10:00] <skukza> lesser men might have sought to steal it
[10:00] <erUSUL> !install | MDCore
[10:00] <ubotu> MDCore: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:00] <AlexC_> skukza: though with Cedega you only have to pay 3 months, after that you can still use it - just no updates
[10:00] <Bradaphraser> hmm
[10:00] <Wavesonics> does anyone here know about XGame?
[10:00] <skukza> hmm
[10:00] <Bradaphraser> apparently, I have to be a superuser to finish installing Ubuntu
[10:00] <DarkLinux1> so
[10:01] <MDCore> erUSUL: I've been surfing the wiki.. I did the boot thing with grub for dos (or windows or whatever) and I can boot linux, but then it tries to look for a cd-rom.
[10:01] <graft> Wavesonics: xgame?
[10:01] <Lin> power83: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[10:01] <skukza> eh cedega is 1.7mb large?
[10:01] <Bradaphraser> I've got a corrupted version of 5.10 on my compy, which is the only one that I could get installed.
[10:01] <MDCore> If someone has instructions for actually installing from a windows partition that would be grand (the wiki doesn't seem to)
[10:01] <Bradaphraser> I've tried all the others, and my computer says, 'critical temperature reached", and kills itself
[10:01] <Lin> skukza: no.. far larger
[10:02] <skukza> thats what i thought
[10:02] <Bradaphraser> well, it doesn't ALWAYS say "critical temperature reached"... sometimes I just kills itself with no warning
[10:02] <Lin> skukza: 10 megs per local update
[10:02] <skukza> hmm
[10:02] <erUSUL> MDCore: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[10:02] <skukza> this local update wtf is it?
[10:02] <jcrewd> dark: did you catch that previous post, any ideas?
[10:02] <wkerzend> i have trouble with reinstalling the grub bootmanager ( i think my virus infested windows did something to it). I have a special boot partiotion does anyone know a good know how
[10:02] <Lin> skukza: this isn't cedega channel..
[10:02] <Wavesonics> graft: XGame: http://xgame.tlhiv.org/home.html
[10:03] <skukza> there is one?
[10:03] <Lin> skukza: but local update is the wine with libraries.
[10:03] <Lin> skukza: dunno.
[10:03] <skukza> by jove there is
[10:03] <skukza> #cedega surprise surprise
[10:04] <MDCore> erUSUL: yeah I've been checking that.. but my net connection is so flaky.... but let me see if I can net-install via a share or something..
[10:04] <Bradaphraser> dare I ask what superuser privaleges are?
[10:04] <power83> hi boyz too
[10:04] <erUSUL> MDCore: http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html
[10:04] <r3m> what LFS mean in 6.06
[10:05] <r3m> LTS*
[10:05] <power83> I have only UTF-8 locale......how can I ae iso8859-1 or iso8859-15?
[10:05] <power83> have
[10:05] <HymnToLife> LTS* means Long Term Support
[10:05] <HymnToLife> !lts
[10:05] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[10:05] <r3m> thx
[10:05] <r3m> 6.06 is a good choice? or is better to use 6.10
[10:05] <Wavesonics> anyone know where I can get a deb package for XGame http://xgame.tlhiv.org/home.html
[10:05] <power83> dpgk-reconfigure locales don't do what I want
[10:06] <HymnToLife> some people have problems with 6.10
[10:06] <javb> Installed Xgl/Compiz .. didnt like it.. removed it and placed the backup files (xorg.conf and /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom) to their original place. but when starting GDM, it says "No servers were defined in the configuration file and XDMCP was disable. This can only be a configuration error. GDM has started a single server for you. You should log in and fix the configuration. Note that automatic and timed logins are disable." Any idea why this is appearing. I hi
[10:06] <javb> t ENTER on that message and starts normally. just with a weird login manager. (Ubuntu Edgy)
[10:06] <lynucs> rem user 6.06
[10:06] <logivision> How do i create a password for SU
[10:06] <lynucs> use
[10:06] <jdkycdoc> hi there, it would be great if someone coud help me getting some files out of a corrupted cd which resists itself to any mount attempt, any ideas?
[10:06] <javb> any ideas?
[10:06] <thegreatmaco> logivision: sudo passwd root
[10:06] <theCore> Announcement: There is a quiz in #ubuntu-trivia starting in a few minutes. The lucky winner will be getting a free Ubuntu Poster!
[10:07] <power83> I have UTF-8 local,, but I want iso8859-1....how I do this?
[10:07] <HymnToLife> power83, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:08] <emun> hi, need some help how can i print from ubuntu to a canon pixma mp150 connected to print server on a windows network, winxp can print to this printer
[10:09] <shooters> emun: is the printer shared?
[10:09] <power83> HymnToLife, I hae already done this, but it regenerates only UTF-8 locales.....
[10:09] <logivision> I'm trying to install an RPM and i go into terminal and go: 1) cd Desktop/    2) su     3) enter password    4) rpm -i vnc-4_1_2-x86_linux.rpm
[10:09] <logivision> and it's giving me the error
[10:09] <logivision> bash: rpm: command not found
[10:09] <emun> no it is not shared
[10:09] <logivision> what does that mean? am i doing something wrong?
[10:10] <fmachado> javb, open /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom and /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and check if there is any #comented line in [servers]  section
[10:10] <AlexC_> logivision:  you need to use Alien to convert the RPM to a .deb file
[10:10] <shooters> emun: how does winxp connects to printer? locally? TCP-IP?
[10:10] <AlexC_> logivision: sudo apt-get install alien   then do   aliean vnc-4_1_2-x86_linux.rpm
[10:10] <logivision> thank you
[10:10] <AlexC_> logivision: then sudo dpkg -i vnc-4_1_2-x86_linux.deb
[10:11] <HymnToLife> power83, be sure to select the locales you want generated when you're shown the list
[10:11] <power83> I  havent' undestood
[10:12] <emun> shooters, the printer is not shared wiinxp is connected to router which is connected to a printserver , tcp/ip ic enabled on winxp
[10:13] <HymnToLife> when you lauch that
[10:13] <javb> There is nothing in the [servers]  section either of them.
[10:13] <javb> fmachado
[10:13] <HymnToLife> you'll have a list of all available locales
[10:13] <HymnToLife> select the one(s) you want, press Enter, voila
[10:13] <AlexC_> logivision: also, you said you did "su" as step 2, really you should be using sudo
[10:13] <emun> shooters, ubuntu can see the winxp computer on the windows network
[10:14] <javb> fmachado There is nothing in the [servers]  section either of them.
[10:14] <power83> no no, when I run dpgk-reconfigure locales, it start generating all locales avaible......but all avaible  are UTF-8!!!
[10:14] <sedra> Hello i want to install Fedora 6 nd ubuntu 6.10 with WinXp in multiboot how shoud i configure the bootloader
[10:14] <Lars_G> Hi all.
[10:15] <power83> HymnToLife, I don't have to press never enter
[10:15] <Lars_G> Is this still the best way to get jdk 6.0.0 on the system? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1877195&postcount=15
[10:15] <logivision> AlexC: Hey, I'm using Ubuntu and I've installed CrossOver. I'm trying to install a program that needs to access a server during installation (a constant connection must be established while the program is running as well). During installation it goes to select the location of the server but it's automatically selecting "My Network" since it's a window's installation. How do I go about setting it up so it can see the network prope
[10:15] <logivision> rly?
[10:15] <logivision> sorry about that it was a mistake pasted the wrong item
[10:15] <HymnToLife> power83, what do you get when you launch it ?
[10:15] <AlexC_> logivision: hehe no probs :P
[10:15] <logivision> AlexC: logivision@linuxbox:~/Desktop$ sudo alien vnc-4_1_2-x86_linux.rpm
[10:15] <logivision> Warning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package vnc: postinst
[10:15] <logivision> Warning: Use the --scripts parameter to include the scripts.
[10:15] <jcrewd> anybody familiar with unixodbc?
[10:16] <power83> Generating locales...
[10:16] <power83>   en_AU.UTF-8... up-to-date
[10:16] <power83>   en_BW.UTF-8... up-to-date
[10:16] <power83>   en_CA.UTF-8... up-to-date
[10:16] <power83>   en_DK.UTF-8... up-to-date
[10:16] <power83>   en_GB.UTF-8... up-to-date
[10:16] <power83>   en_HK.UTF-8... up-to-date
[10:16] <power83>   en_IE.UTF-8... up-to-date
[10:16] <AlexC_> PASTE BIN
[10:16] <power83>   en_IN.UTF-8... up-to-date
[10:16] <power83>   en_NZ.UTF-8... up-to-date
[10:16] <power83>   en_PH.UTF-8... up-to-date
[10:16] <AlexC_> power83: PASTE BIN
[10:16] <power83>   en_SG.UTF-8... up-to-date
[10:16] <power83>   en_US.UTF-8... up-to-date
[10:16] <emun> shooters , are you still there, set is printer....printserver....router....computers with winxp
[10:16] <power83>   en_ZA.UTF-8... up-to-date
[10:16] <power83>   en_ZW.UTF-8... up-to-date
[10:16] <power83>   it_CH.UTF-8... up-to-date
[10:16] <power83>   it_IT.UTF-8... up-to-date
[10:16] <power83> Generation complete.
[10:16] <power83> HymnToLife, I send you a private message with it
[10:16] <power83> AlexC_,  what please??
[10:16] <AlexC_> power83: !!! use a pastebin, stop spamming
[10:16] <sedra> hello
[10:16] <HymnToLife> !pastebin | power83
[10:16] <ubotu> power83: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:16] <siv0x> !pastebin
[10:16] <shooters> emun: looking on the internet for you... drivers seems to be problematic
[10:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:16] <power83> what is pastebin?
[10:16] <logivision> AlexC_: did you catch that error i'm getting?
[10:17] <AlexC_> logivision: sudo aliean --scripts vnc-4_1_2-x86_linux.rpm
[10:17] <siv0x> HymnToLife: crap
[10:17] <logivision> thank you.
[10:17] <AlexC_> logivision: yes, woops - alien
[10:17] <sedra> can anyone help me
[10:17] <logivision> is there any good tutorial site on how to use linux.. ?
[10:17] <AlexC_> sedra: yes, I think your problem is your not askign the question
[10:17] <sedra>  i want to install Fedora 6 nd ubuntu 6.10 with WinXp in multiboot how shoud i configure the bootloader
[10:17] <HymnToLife> siv0x ?
[10:17] <siv0x> HymnToLife: you beat me to the !bastebin command :D
[10:17] <radar1976> hello, need a bit of help
[10:18] <power83> HymnToLife, so have you read it?
[10:18] <HymnToLife> sedra, be sure to have a shared /boot partition between the two Linuxes, will save you some headaches
[10:18] <radar1976> I changed the video card from one ATI card to another... now GDM / X will not start
[10:18] <radar1976> I can't find the command to reconfigure X
[10:18] <AlexC_> logivision: I don't know of any, but this IRC channel and Ubuntuforums are very very very helpful
[10:18] <HymnToLife> power83, I didn't get any PM's
[10:18] <power83> doh!?!?!?!
[10:18] <radar1976> may I get some assistance with this issue?
[10:18] <HymnToLife> it's weird though, on my Debian when I lauch it, I have a list of locales to install
[10:18] <emun> shooters , do i still need to install the linux print drivers for pixma mp150 on ubuntu to be able to print to a network
[10:18] <power83> ow I use pastebin???
[10:18] <fmachado> javb, ok. did you google? http://www.google.com/search?q=%22No+servers+were+defined+in+the+configuration+file+and+XDMCP+was%22
[10:18] <power83> how?
[10:19] <AlexC_> power83: paste the code, paste the link to use
[10:19] <sedra> boot partition i thought grub install in MBR!
[10:19] <logivision> AlexC_: Yea, I've found this REALLY helpful so far. I Just don't want to have to bother you guys for all my stupid little questions!
[10:19] <Lars_G> power83: Just go there. paste the code and send the link here.
[10:19] <HymnToLife> sedra, only a parto of it
[10:19] <AlexC_> logivision: hey, that's what were here for =)
[10:19] <HymnToLife> another part is in /boot/grub
[10:19] <Lars_G> Anyone? is there a better way to get a good jdk 1.6 deb than this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1877195&postcount=15
[10:19] <power83> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39364/
[10:19] <AlexC_> logivision: you'll soon get use to it and will be able to do most things by your self after a while
[10:19] <sedra> HymnToLife: thanx
[10:20] <logivision> AlexC_: I hope so!
[10:20] <logivision> AlexC_: logivision@linuxbox:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i vnc_4.1.2-2_i386.deb
[10:20] <logivision> dpkg: regarding vnc_4.1.2-2_i386.deb containing vnc:
[10:20] <logivision>  xvncviewer conflicts with vnc
[10:20] <logivision>   vnc (version 4.1.2-2) is to be installed.
[10:20] <logivision> dpkg: error processing vnc_4.1.2-2_i386.deb (--install):
[10:20] <AlexC_> logivision: hehe, yeah you will =)
[10:20] <logivision>  conflicting packages - not installing vnc
[10:20] <logivision> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:20] <logivision>  vnc_4.1.2-2_i386.deb
[10:20] <AlexC_> logivision: pastebin
[10:20] <shooters> emun: only drivers I can find are proprietary drivers from turboprint ... is there a way you could print through a XP box (printer sharing)?
[10:20] <logivision> AlexC_: Whats that?!
[10:20] <radar1976> anyone?
[10:20] <logivision> !pastebin
[10:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:21] <AlexC_> logivision: I see you are trying to install VNC, is it not in the resporities ?
[10:21] <logivision> AlexC_: Resporitories?
[10:22] <AlexC_> logivision: I don't know how to spell it really! Can anyone describe resporities to logivision ?
[10:22] <logivision> AlexC_: I'm on day 1 here, I know _nothing_ about linux !
[10:22] <Yodude> hey guys guess what?! i just downloaded ubuntu and i'm just minutes away from using it!
[10:22] <emun> turboprint, requires $30 , what do mean by print through a xp box , please explain
[10:22] <power83> anyone can help me to have iso8859-1 or 15 as locale?
[10:22] <power83> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39364/
[10:22] <cedwards_> hey guys
[10:22] <Yodude> i have one question though can anybody answer me?
[10:22] <lynucs> Yodude: just ask
[10:22] <AlexC_> Yodude: not if you don't ask the question.
[10:22] <cedwards_> anyone up for helping a n00b out?
[10:23] <lynucs> cedwards_: just ask
[10:23] <AlexC_> cedwards_: ask the question, were not physic
[10:23] <hjmills> hi all - what is your fave music program on linux?
[10:23] <hjmills> !ask | cedwards
[10:23] <ubotu> cedwards: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:23] <logivision> AlexC_: what didy ou mean by resporitories? does that mean it comes with ubuntu and you still have to install it?
[10:23] <Lars_G> AlexC_: Some MUST be psychic but affraid to let people know
[10:23] <Yodude> k, so: if anything goes wrong with the LiveCD, will my reset button be able to reset my system and run windpows again?
[10:23] <AlexC_> logivision: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[10:23] <radar1976> :(
[10:23] <lynucs> ok ,cya
[10:23] <cedwards_> ok, here goes
[10:23] <lynucs> wrong chan :D
[10:23] <Yodude> so is the reset button on my pc's case hardware based?
[10:23] <radar1976> how do I redetect the hardware in Edgy
[10:23] <AlexC_> Lars_G: lol yes, some probably are!
[10:23] <dantrag_> hi, i am running a fresh ubuntu install. and when i play an mp3 in rythem box it works fine, but if totem plays it or if i play a movie there is no audio, can someone help me please?
[10:23] <cedwards_> I just got a new extrenal hard drive. of course, its USB
[10:24] <Lars_G> AlexC_: Do you have any advice for me? I'll repost.
[10:24] <radar1976> Yodude:  are you serious?
[10:24] <hjmills> Yodude: it just restarts the pc
[10:24] <Lars_G> Anyone? is there a better way to get a good jdk 1.6 deb than this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1877195&postcount=15
[10:24] <cedwards_> its NTFS, it opens read only, I want to change it to be writable, as it will be the storage for my system which boots Windows xp, ubuntu, and Mac OS X tiger
[10:24] <Russ1> I have a dual boot windows xp/kubuntu computer. It currently has Kubuntu 6.06 and I'd like to install ubuntu 6.10. My /home directory is on a seperate partition. If I install Ubuntu 6.10, it shouldn't format my /home partition, will it?
[10:24] <hjmills> Yodude: cuts the power and starts the pc up again - if u leave the live cd in then it will reload the live cd (ignoring any changes you made last time)
[10:24] <Yodude> lol just amking sure evrything is planned %
[10:24] <fmachado> javb, ok. did you google? http://www.google.com/search?q=%22No+servers+were+defined+in+the+configuration+file+and+XDMCP+was%22
[10:24] <Lars_G> Yodude: It's most surely hardware based, but there's no way to know without analyzing the schematic. it's safe to asume it's hardware based...
[10:24] <shooters> emun: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_MP150 - Seems to be hard to use that printer under Linux... I can't find anything else to help you... Sorry
[10:24] <hjmills> so what is the best music program on linux?
[10:24] <AlexC_> logivision: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html -> explains repositories
[10:25] <Yodude> k that's what i wanted to hear
[10:25] <hjmills> pref written in c and for gnome
[10:25] <cedwards_> XMMS imo
[10:25] <lynucs> cedwards_: i wouldnt better write write from linux on ntfs partiition.. its risky
[10:25] <fmachado> javb, anyway, pastebin your gdm.conf and gdm.conf-custom
[10:25] <AlexC_> Lars_G: I don't know sorry
[10:25] <emun> shooters, can you explain what you mean i should share the printer in xp
[10:25] <Lars_G> AlexC_: It's ok
[10:25] <Sleeping_Sloth> hello chaps
[10:25] <Yodude> i can easily load the BIOS to stop the cd from loading again and get it out then reset again
[10:25] <Yodude> lol
[10:25] <logivision> AlexC_: Would a GZipped Tarfile be easier to install than a .rpm ?
[10:25] <power83> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39364/
[10:25] <cedwards_> hmm, what would be a better filesystem to use?
[10:25] <Yodude> thnx guys
[10:25] <AlexC_> morning Sleeping_Sloth
[10:25] <Yodude> c u on linux in some minutes!
[10:25] <lynucs> cedwards_: fat
[10:25] <javb> fmachado.. i fixed it.. resinstalled gdm.. and yes, a googled, a lot. . .
[10:25] <Sleeping_Sloth> does anyone know of a wav to cda app in the repositories?
[10:25] <hjmills> Yodude: or just eject the cd first
[10:25] <power83> I want iso8859-1 locale, not UTF-8 as show in the paste
[10:25] <cedwards_> keep in mind, I need access to it from XP, Mac, and Linux
[10:25] <shooters> emun: sorry... that won't work... drivers are not available for that printer
[10:25] <Yodude> it has an IRC app?
[10:25] <javb> thanks for your help anyway dude,
[10:25] <lynucs> fat32 actually as an exchange partition between lin/win
[10:25] <Sleeping_Sloth> hi AlexC_
[10:25] <AlexC_> logivision: not really, for that you will most probably have to compile the source. what is it you are trying to install?
[10:25] <power83> can anyone help me?
[10:26] <logivision> VNC!
[10:26] <fmachado> javb :)
[10:26] <AlexC_> power83: not if you don't ask a question
[10:26] <javb> hi guys... i`m trying to install my broadcom 4311 wireless card.. cant do it, i`m getting this message -->  [17180000.240000]  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.
[10:26] <siv0x> Yodude: yes, Gaim
[10:26] <cedwards_> problem with fat32 = doesnt support partitions of 250gb sizes :P
[10:26] <logivision> AlexC_: VNC
[10:26] <hjmills> logivision: ubuntu already has vnc installed
[10:26] <emun> i see so drivers are absolutely required
[10:26] <Yodude> k thnx n c u soon goodbye!
[10:26] <Yodude> ;)
[10:26] <lynucs> cedwards_: just do 2 partitions then :D
[10:26] <logivision> hjmills: Dis that one of the ... repositories ?
[10:26] <power83> AlexC_, wait a moment
[10:26] <siv0x> I feel sorry for "Yodude"
[10:26] <cedwards_> ugh, I was afraid you'd say that
[10:27] <lynucs> :)
[10:27] <Lars_G> logivision: look for tightvnc or real-vnc they are available in ubuntu as packages
[10:27] <shooters> emun: Maybe that thread can help, but they are prop. drivers - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=243723
[10:27] <siv0x> lol
[10:27] <Sleeping_Sloth> I'm after a reverse ripper I suppose - anyone know of anything that I could use?
[10:27] <hjmills> logivision: no - its installed with ubuntu already - System>Preferences>Remote Desktop
[10:27] <lynucs> cedwards_: life is hard
[10:27] <cedwards_> I thought the most recent kernel fixed the whole NTFS thing
[10:27] <hjmills> logivision: then you can turn it on
[10:27] <lynucs> cedwards_: it is ficed, but still risky :D
[10:27] <cedwards_> define risky
[10:27] <cedwards_> in other words, what am I risking?
[10:27] <logivision> Lars_G: I can only find a tarball and an RPM for Real VNC
[10:27] <Lars_G> cedwards_: As in "can lose your data"
[10:28] <emun> shooters, thanks anyway i thought maybe there was to circumvent the driver issue by using a network
[10:28] <hjmills> Lars_G: backup first
[10:28] <cedwards_> I mean, corrupting the entire filesystem, or just the files written by Linux?
[10:28] <hjmills> cedwards_: whole thing
[10:28] <lynucs> cedwards_: in worst case loose some data i guess
[10:28] <cedwards_> ugh
[10:28] <logivision> hjmills: I need a program that can go between linux and Windows. I'll be using VNC to connect to a Linux box from a window's box
[10:28] <lynucs> cedwards_: but not sure
[10:28] <cedwards_> ah ok
[10:28] <cedwards_> hmm
[10:28] <Lars_G> logivision: odd. the ubuntu package managers don't look for rpm and tar files o.O... in other words, use adept or synaptic, and search for "vnc"
[10:28] <emun> i mean a way to circumvent the drivers
[10:28] <cedwards_> I know windows has a downloadable extention that allows rwx access to EXT3
[10:28] <hjmills> logivision: thats fine - ubuntu has a vnc server installed - it just denies any connections by default
[10:28] <cedwards_> anyone know if Mac can read EXT3?
[10:28] <power83> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39365/
[10:29] <lynucs> cedwards_: i guess special drivers needed
[10:29] <Lars_G> cedwards_: there's a commercial (expensive) driver for NTFS for linux.
[10:29] <AlexC_> logivision: most applications you download from the respositiories, not by actually downloading random files from the internet
[10:29] <Lars_G> cedwards_: No.
[10:29] <cedwards_> ah ok
[10:29] <power83> Anyone can help me in this??? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39365/
[10:29] <cedwards_> hmm, sounds like Im pretty much screwed lol
[10:29] <protocol1> is there a 686 kernel for edgy? or is the 386 one good enough?
[10:29] <Lars_G> cedwards_: Sorry but FAT32 is the best FS for using in the 3 big OS
[10:29] <lerneaen_hydra> is there any good graphical (!) md5 checksum creator/verificator?
[10:30] <lunchtime> im trying to decide between Ubuntu and Kubuntu , any major things to know ? or choice between
[10:30] <gOldZahN> is wine the best program of his category?
[10:30] <Lars_G> cedwards_: Mac won't write NTFS either, only read it
[10:30] <lynucs> cedwards_: don't use FAT for the whole windows
[10:30] <lynucs> cedwards_: just as an excahnge partition
[10:30] <Genrl_Zod> guys is it weasy to bond 2 internet conenctions together on a debian box?
[10:30] <Genrl_Zod> or in Linux in general?
[10:30] <Lars_G> lunchtime: kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde instead of gnome. it's the same as installing ubuntu and adding kde
[10:30] <MDCore> lunchtime: ubuntu == gnome, kubuntu == kde. that's roughly it.
[10:30] <lynucs> cedwards_: an extra partition for all your non-installations partition
[10:30] <cedwards_> yea, but the external drive is 250 gb
[10:30] <cedwards_> its my storage unit
[10:31] <Genrl_Zod> any1?
[10:31] <lynucs> non-installation files i mean
[10:31] <lunchtime> so if i have a computer who can run KDE smoothly , go with Kubuntu ?
[10:31] <Lars_G> Genrl_Zod: not "easy" but possible. read the general guide in www.lartc.org and join #networking
[10:31] <cedwards_> I have 2 internal drives that will include all OS files, and installed software, etc etc
[10:31] <gOldZahN> is wine the best program of his category?
[10:31] <protocol1> is there a 686 kernel for edgy? or is the 386 one good enough?
[10:31] <lynucs> cedwards_: so what? do 2 partitions then
[10:31] <Lars_G> gOldZahN: no
[10:31] <MDCore> protocol1: I think there is a 686 kernel
[10:31] <AlexC_> logivision: if you read that guide I linked you to, it should help you understand about installing programs in Linux/Ubuntu
[10:31] <Genrl_Zod> cheers buddy
[10:31] <gOldZahN> lars_g, but what?
[10:31] <jcrewd> no one familiar with setting up an odbc connection???
[10:31] <protocol1> ok
[10:31] <Lars_G> gOldZahN: for office apps Crossover is better (commercial), for games Cedega is better (commercial), for general use, wine lattest is better
[10:32] <Lars_G> AlexC_: How the hell do you keep up with the speed here?
[10:32] <power83> I'm desperate.....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39365/
[10:32] <AlexC_> Lars_G: magic powers :P
[10:32] <Lars_G> I should ignore /part /joins
[10:32] <MDCore> jcrewd: I've messed with odbc connections
[10:32] <[ITA] Stormcrow> anyone use DAOC with cedega?
[10:32] <gOldZahN> lars_g, okay thx....cedega i didnt know
[10:32] <Lars_G> AlexC_: Chimp powers?
[10:32] <AlexC_> Lars_G: ostridge,
[10:33] <Lars_G> AlexC_: Odd few people know what an ostridge even is. are you over 25? what are you doing in irc? lol
[10:33] <radar1976> I need some help here...
[10:33] <AlexC_> Lars_G: haha no, I'm not over 25 :P 16 infact lol
[10:33] <AlexC_> radar1976: then ask away
[10:33] <MDCore> Lars_G: what is an ostridge ?
[10:33] <Lars_G> [ITA] Stormcrow: try in #cedega (or ##cedega)
[10:33] <radar1976> I changed the video card from one ATI card to another... now GDM / X will not start
[10:33] <radar1976> may I get some assistance with this issue?
[10:33] <AlexC_> MDCore: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y85/heartsavolcanoo/ostridge.jpg
[10:34] <Lars_G> MDCore: It's a flightless huge bird
[10:34] <AlexC_> MDCore: fastest animal on 2 feet
[10:34] <MDCore> ah.. you mean an ostrich
[10:34] <Lars_G> AlexC_: Afaik, the Argentinian andu, a close relative, is faster.
[10:34] <MDCore> not an ostridge...
[10:34] <AlexC_> Lars_G: oh really, lets get them on a treadmill and test
[10:34] <Lars_G> MDCore: Stickler
[10:34] <AlexC_> MDCore: I think there are 2 spellings of it,
[10:35] <jcrewd> MDCore:  i've tried unixodbc with db2 and failed.  is there a better way?
[10:35] <fmachado> power83, backup /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local and then "sudo gedit /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local". delete all lines except the ISO88591. run "dpkg-reconfigure locales" again
[10:35] <Lars_G> jcrewd: odbc tends to be a slower way to use databases, why are you using it?
[10:35] <fmachado> power83, then run you app
[10:36] <power83> fmachado, thanks for reply, I try now and next I advise you the result
[10:36] <MDCore> Well I come from a country of ostriches... ostridge is just how you spell it if you have a bad accent :)
[10:36] <jcrewd> Lars_G:  that's the existing connection to a database that a windows app is using... i am trying to get it to run in unbuntu in wine... i am open to suggestions
[10:36] <hjmills> so what is the best music program on linux?
[10:37] <squidly> hjmills: depends on what you want to do with it
[10:37] <cani> hi im new to this channel, anyone can help me, i have problems installing ubuntu on my machine
[10:37] <gu014> would it be better to purchase a sata or ide dvd-rom drive?
[10:37] <squidly> hjmills: if you want to listen to music IMHO xmms
[10:37] <Renan_s2> Hello. Anybody here knows how to install HP C3180 "all-in-one" printer?
[10:37] <Lars_G> jcrewd: depends what you want to access it from.
[10:37] <squidly> gu014: i think SATA is better
[10:37] <haary> hjmills: depends on how you define "music program"
[10:37] <radar1976> AlexC_: are you able to help me?
[10:37] <jcrewd> Lars:  i guess I shouold say that is how the connection is set up in the windows environment the application is native to
[10:37] <AlexC_> MDCore: oh right lol, well I kinda say Ost-ridge anyway and not Ost-Rich - plus the fact I spell things how I say them, or just spell them how ever I want lol
[10:37] <squidly> cani: what problems are you haveing?
[10:37] <AlexC_> radar1976: if you had a question, yes
[10:38] <Lars_G> Trevinho: Are you here?
[10:38] <gu014> squidly: have any suggestions on which sata model i should look into purchasing?
[10:38] <hjmills> squidly: im looking for something more akin to iTunes but with integration for a creative vision:m if possible - i like the way itunes lets you find stuff
[10:38] <AlexC_> radar1976: ah, your ATI problem.
[10:38] <radar1976> yes
[10:38] <squidly> gu014: i would say what ever your motherboard supports
[10:38] <nbjayme> holiday greetings to all! any musicians around? I would want to know recommendations for a good music studio app in GNU/Linux (base on your experience).
[10:38] <squidly> hjmills: ahh well that is a very specific application. I refuse to use itunes
[10:38] <Lars_G> hjmills: My favorite for that is Amarok (for kde)
[10:38] <radar1976> it is not detecting any radeon cards
[10:39] <radar1976> but I have a radeon 9000 card in the machine
[10:39] <hjmills> Lars_G: i was hoping to avoid kde libs :(
[10:39] <cani> hi, im having problems running ubuntu on a k8v se deluxe mb, anyone can help me?
[10:39] <Lars_G> hjmills: there's also rythmbox on the gnome side. afaik
[10:39] <squidly> cani: be more specific or 10-1 you wont get any help
[10:39] <Lars_G> Trevinho: Please tell me you're here :'(
[10:39] <squidly> cani: what exacly are you having problems with?
[10:39] <AlexC_> radar1976: damm I've forgotten the command, give me 2 mins
[10:39] <power83> fmachado, I have only a line: en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
[10:40] <hjmills> Lars_G: thanks
[10:40] <x-r00t-x> [15:36]  * Hostname IPV6 self-lookup failed.
[10:40] <cani> ok lol, i donwloaded the desktop cd for an amd64
[10:40] <x-r00t-x> any idea? :-S
[10:40] <radar1976> k
[10:40] <squidly> cani: also say my name in responces to me so I can pick them out of the chatter
[10:40] <cani> i boot the computer with the cd, and i only get as far as the animation of the scroll and the ubuntu logo in gray
[10:40] <jcrewd> Lars:  i am trying to access an mssql server if that helps the suggestions
[10:40] <squidly> cani: what video cards do you have?
[10:40] <cani> ok, im sorry im new in all this irc stuff
[10:40] <Lars_G> Trevinho: I go for food, if you come back please please /msg me
[10:41] <radar1976> I should mention it is AIW
[10:41] <squidly> cani: no problem ^^
[10:41] <cani> i have another computer with an ati radeon 9800 128 mb
[10:41] <cani> its also a amd64
[10:41] <cani> and i was able to run it there
[10:41] <AlexC_> radar1976: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:41] <cani> i switched the video card to my computer and still was unable to boot
[10:42] <cani> mine is an ati radeon 9800 256 mb
[10:42] <turd> can anyone help me with sound juicer
[10:42] <squidly> cani: does it give any errors?
[10:42] <siv0x> HymnToLife: What was those last two commands you gave me, sudo apt-get upgrade and sodu apt-get dest-install or something? - i'm trying to help a friend get started on updating to edgy
[10:42] <cani> squidly: nop, it just hangs there, with a black screen
[10:42] <blas_> whats the name of the english code for console? now its LANG="hu_HU.UTF-8"
[10:42] <AlexC_> turd: what's wrong with it?
[10:42] <squidly> cani: can when that happens can you ctrl-alt-f1 to a console?
[10:42] <technel> Hi. Could someone tell me a command that will let me see all recognized drives on this computer (so I can mount one, I don't know the exact identifier, e.g. /dev/sd#)?
[10:43] <AlexC_> technel: mount
[10:43] <fmachado> power83, do you wanna "en_US ISO-8859-1" ?
[10:43] <AlexC_> technel: I think :P
[10:43] <mnoir> blas_: mine is en_US.UTF-8
[10:43] <squidly> technel: dmesg |grep /dev/[sh] d*
[10:43] <cani> squidly: let me try, im running a memtest in this moment, its about to finish, ill try that when its done
[10:43] <squidly> AlexC_: that shows the mounted drives not all drives
[10:43] <squidly> cani: also what version of ubuntu did you get 6.10? or 6.06?
[10:44] <cani> 6.10
[10:44] <squidly> cani: try the 6.06 its works better then 6.10
[10:44] <jcrewd> MDCore:   did you use unixodbc?
[10:44] <blas_> mnoir: thx
[10:44] <AlexC_> squidly: woops yeah of course :P
[10:44] <power83> it is correctly?
[10:44] <squidly> cani: i had the same issues with 6.10 on my k8n
[10:44] <MDCore> jcrewd: yep.
[10:44] <technel> squidly, Thanks!
[10:44] <squidly> technel: np ^^
[10:44] <squidly> AlexC_: lmao ^^ i've done that too
[10:44] <MDCore> jcrewd: but to connect to ms sql server. don't know how similar it will be.
[10:44] <MDCore> jcrewd: I'll see if I can find the instructioins
[10:45] <logivision> for VNC Programs in the Add/Remove APplications there is Gnome-RDP, Krdc and Krfb. If i want to connect to this computer from a window's machine, what's the best one of those to use ?
[10:45] <cani> squidly: thanks i will try 6.06
[10:45] <squidly> cani: np. I had issues with 6.10 for a long time and got so fed up I was about to throw it out the window
[10:45] <cani> squidly: so you were not able to run ubuntu 6.10 on your machine?
[10:45] <cani> lol
[10:45] <squidly> cani: i gave up after a while tring with 6.10 I was able to get 6.06 running no problem
[10:45] <squidly> cani: but then I was also trying to do raid/lvm for my hdd setups
[10:46] <pawlo> siemka
[10:46] <AlexC_> logivision: I've never used VNC before, but am I right in that you need a Server and a Client. The server is on the PC you want to control yes?
[10:46] <fmachado> power83, add "en_US ISO-8859-1" (without ")
[10:46] <cani> squidly: i see, im doing it on a ide hd
[10:46] <pawlo> englih bo ja polih
[10:46] <logivision> AlexC_: Yes that's right. And I want this Linux machine to be the Server.
[10:47] <power83> fmachado, in local and next reconfigure?
[10:47] <curs0r> anyone see the vista start menu? that's freakin retarded
[10:47] <fmachado> power83 , yeap
[10:47] <ceacro> hello world
[10:47] <squidly> cani: they are ide hard drives
[10:47] <ceacro> trivia questions are ready.
[10:48] <elcasey> i'm having some cyrillic font install issues in edgy
[10:48] <lynucs> logivision: i heard that rdp is just great ,better then vnc, but never used it
[10:48] <ceacro> Virus Free
[10:48] <squidly> cani: I was doing software raid and LVM
[10:48] <AlexC_> logivision: Ok, you could install Vino - if you go to Applications->accessories->terminal and type in "sudo apt-get install vino" that should install it
[10:49] <lynucs> logivision: vino ias bad, if you have on the server a big reolution and as client a small resolution
[10:49] <squidly> cani: I'm also using ubuntu for several servers at work
[10:49] <squidly> cani: works wonderfully!
[10:49] <AlexC_> lynucs: oh right, I've never used VNC and just going by the descriptions apt-cache gives me :P
[10:49] <NickCz> does anyone know how to troubleshoot gstreamer in here
[10:50] <ceacro> what does " RTFM" mean????
[10:50] <AlexC_> lynucs: "VNC server for GNOME" sounds quite promosing lol
[10:50] <MuSkA> porcodio
[10:50] <squidly> ceacro: read the fine manual
[10:50] <elcasey> no russian-speakers in here by any chance, are there?
[10:50] <AlexC_> ceacro: Read the Fine/Fu***** manual :P
[10:50] <elcasey> lol ceacro
[10:50] <squidly> AlexC_: lmao ^^
[10:50] <ceacro> very good
[10:50] <mnoir> ceacro: in ubuntu, nothing
[10:50] <sidny4> lol
[10:50] <cani> squidly: sweet, im gonna give it a try
[10:50] <squidly> AlexC_: I was tyring to be polite ^^
[10:50] <siv0x> hey can someone tell me what this is going to do - i'm updating from 6.06 to 6.10, will this give me a fresh copy of 6.10 or will it just update and be just like a fresh copy but with all the files i already had?
[10:50] <ceacro> for those people who ask questions permanently
[10:50] <AlexC_> squidly: hehe yeah I know :P
[10:50] <squidly> cani: yea its actually our proxy!
[10:50] <squidly> AlexC_: lol
[10:50] <elcasey> an upgrade is just an upgrade
[10:50] <lynucs> AlexC_: what do you mean
[10:51] <ceacro> if someone asks you to help him or her then
[10:51] <ceacro> su send a message " R.T.F.M"
[10:51] <radar1976> thank you AlexC_  I got X working again
[10:51] <radar1976> :D
[10:51] <squidly> cani: its an older desktop that is running a squid proxy, and is handeling over 2tb of netsurfing a day
[10:51] <ceacro> read the fucking manual
[10:51] <AlexC_> lynucs: well he asked for a VNC Client, I didn't know of any so I did "sudo apt-cache search vnc" to find vnc programs, and saw Vino with a description of "vnc server for Gnome" so I thought that sounded good
[10:51] <squidly> ceacro: yea it means to man su
[10:51] <AlexC_> radar1976: your welcome =)
[10:51] <plypkie> siv0x: are you using apt on synaptic to upgrade?
[10:51] <rizo> Hi
[10:52] <AlexC_> hello rizo
[10:52] <ceacro> 2nd questions
[10:52] <radar1976> now time to get video for linux working... anyone have suggestions for a good video editing program and codecs to use
[10:52] <rizo> I some help with grub
[10:52] <AlexC_> rizo: ask away,
[10:52] <siv0x> plynkie: i'm using sudo apt-get dest-install (i think this is the command)
[10:52] <ceacro> what is frostwire?
[10:52] <squidly> rizo: AlexC_ is the grub god of the channel
[10:52] <rizo> i accidently installed it in hd0,0
[10:52] <X_drake_X> a p2p
[10:52] <ceacro> very good x_Drake
[10:52] <cani> squidly: nice, i can't wait to give it a try, i've been stuck with server 2003 and isa server
[10:52] <AlexC_> ceacro: it's basically Limewire
[10:53] <ceacro> a peer to peer protocol client
[10:53] <squidly> cani: i feel your pain I was there a week ago
[10:53] <AlexC_> ceacro: a P2p client
[10:53] <X_drake_X> a free limewire pro
[10:53] <plypkie> siv0x: ahh, probably "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".  if you're doing that, then it'll upgrade your software but it will keep all your current data files as they are
[10:53] <ceacro> I prefer using Limewire pro
[10:53] <AlexC_> ceacro: use it then,
[10:53] <plypkie> siv0x: it's not a clean-wipe reinstall.  it's just a software version upgrade
[10:53] <Mathew> USB hubs will work in ubuntu right?
[10:53] <cani> squidly: no there are no big changes from 6.06 to 6.10?
[10:53] <squidly> cani: after me and my boss tried an update to it and lost all connections took me a GRAND total of 2 hours to get squid up and running with basic filtering
[10:53] <X_drake_X> frost wire give problems to me
[10:53] <ceacro> yah
[10:53] <squidly> cani: no.. 6.06 is a Long Term Support release
[10:53] <AlexC_> Mathew: yes
[10:54] <squidly> cani: the apps in there are better tested then in 6.10
[10:54] <sidny4> I like 6.06 better
[10:54] <ceacro> limewire is faster and more accuretely
[10:54] <cani> sindy4: thank you for your opinion:D
[10:54] <squidly> ceacro: limewire is a virus floding area
[10:54] <siv0x> plynkie: okay, I have a question, like in 6.06 when you installed something, it didnt apear on the Kmenu (on KDE) but yet when you rebooted it did, and i've heard on Edgy after you install something, it just apears on there without having to reboot. Will i stil get all those same features as if i reinstalled a fresh copy of 6.10?
[10:54] <ceacro> 3er questions
[10:54] <radar1976> dammit  now I can't use Gmail with firefox
[10:54] <squidly> sidny4: you and me both actually
[10:54] <Stormx2> radar1976: You on 64 bit?
[10:54] <ceacro> remember: Linux is 100 % virus free
[10:54] <radar1976> as soon as the inbox loads, firefox quits
[10:55] <radar1976> Stormx2 no
[10:55] <AlexC_> squidly: were on Linux.... I don't think Viruses are the top of our security list :P
[10:55] <squidly> ceacro: BULLSHIT!
[10:55] <Stormx2> ceacro: Incorrect.
[10:55] <squidly> AlexC_: lol
[10:55] <sidny4> squidly: yeah, it just runs much nicer I think
[10:55] <Stormx2> squidly: Language, please.
[10:55] <squidly> Stormx2: sorry
[10:55] <squidly> sidny4: its a bit more stable
[10:55] <Stormx2> squidly: No prob ^_^
[10:55] <AlexC_> ceacro: it's not 100%, 99.9% maybe :P
[10:55] <Karhan> hello
[10:55] <plypkie> siv0x: yes, it should work the same as someone who installed fresh
[10:55] <ceacro> I have used linux for 6 years and I do not know any virus for linux
[10:55] <mnoir> ceacro: wrong and dangerous to believe
[10:55] <sidny4> there are like 12 viruses for linux
[10:55] <siv0x> Plynkie: thank you
[10:55] <squidly> AlexC_: i konw of several viruses for linux
[10:56] <Stormx2> ceacro: Usually desktop users will not be vunerable. Most viruses for linux tend to infect big servers and get customer data
[10:56] <squidly> ceacro: I have heard of several and I've seen a box infteced with a linux virus
[10:56] <AlexC_> ceacro: there are viruses for Linux, but they are only really proof of concepts, not many, if any are actually swiming around the internet to infect you
[10:56] <Karhan> i'm problem with GAIM on Ubuntu for my webcam
[10:56] <ceacro> so next question:
[10:56] <Stormx2> Karhan: GAIM has no webcam support, currently.
[10:56] <AlexC_> Karhan: GAIM doesn't have webcam support
[10:56] <ceacro> mention 3 names of viruses for linux
[10:56] <Stormx2> Karhan: Your best bet is amsn
[10:56] <Stormx2> ceacro: No, google it yourself.
[10:57] <squidly> ceacro: www.google.com
[10:57] <AlexC_> ceacro: Humans, there's 1 lol
[10:57] <Karhan> it's impossible with gaim ?
[10:57] <AlexC_> Karhan: no
[10:57] <Karhan> erf
[10:57] <mnoir> ceacro: who cares - just run the proper protective filters
[10:57] <Ferret> We have remote exploits instead; targeted attacks rather than the win32 random virus infection attacks
[10:57] <Karhan> ok
[10:57] <squidly> ceacro: there are several
[10:57] <Karhan> thanks
[10:57] <AlexC_> Karhan: use aMSN
[10:57] <ceacro> this is the question that I do not know its answer--...
[10:57] <squidly> also a problem with viruses spreading for linux is there are so many different types of setup and configurations
[10:57] <Karhan> ok
[10:57] <AlexC_> squidly: but most are proof of concepts and not swimming around the internet, correct?
[10:57] <mnoir> ceacro: clearlyt
[10:57] <Karhan> i wont search
[10:57] <malikeye> Ferret: was just gonna say that... it's more application exploits than user propagated virii
[10:57] <radar1976> !pastebin
[10:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:57] <ceacro> mention 3 viruses for linux
[10:57] <siv0x> ceacro: Theres tons of virus's you can get, Ever heard of a "botnet" yeah theres linux bots too. - thats 1 virus.
[10:58] <Karhan> thanks
[10:58] <AlexC_> ceacro: No, search god damm it :P
[10:58] <squidly> AlexC_: true, however there have been a couple that have I have actually seen and had to clean out
[10:58] <Stormx2> Karhan: A couple of years back, gaim was forked into gaim-vv (Video/Voice). The idea was to implement the stuff from gaim-vv into gaim eventually, but theres been no progress yet.
[10:58] <jcrewd> MDCore:  don't bother, this is an issue i am revisiting.  i already have the instructions. i currently do not have the odbc configured.  i was just wondering if i should follow the same path...  did you use the db2 driver
[10:58] <squidly> AlexC_: like a couple of years ago there was a apache/ssl worm going around
[10:58] <Stormx2> ceacro: Bring this to #ubuntu-offtopic or just use google.
[10:58] <ceacro> In theory can be a virus on linux.
[10:58] <AlexC_> squidly: I think I read about that a while ago, was that when the majority of the internet went down lol?
[10:58] <squidly> ceacro: you want to be a M$ flame bot then go head to #flamebait
[10:58] <radar1976> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39368
[10:59] <ceacro> but in practice there is nothing but tries
[10:59] <squidly> AlexC_: lmao
[10:59] <mnoir> !offtopic | ceacro
[10:59] <ubotu> ceacro: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:59] <radar1976> before changing video cards, I had no problem
[10:59] <squidly> mnoir: ty
[10:59] <radar1976> now I can't use gmail
[10:59] <AlexC_> squidly: well not went down, but .... ahh you know what I mean :P
[10:59] <TIBS01> ello
[10:59] <ceacro> next question
[10:59] <squidly> AlexC_: lmao yea I konw what you mean
[10:59] <AlexC_> radar1976: why is that?
[10:59] <TIBS01> someone help me
[10:59] <radar1976> i have no clue why
[10:59] <Stormx2> radar1976: What exactly is the issue? What happens when you try to access gmail?
[10:59] <rafasmart> for webcam "2770:9150 NHJ" is sufficient a package SPCA5xx driver?? what else?
[10:59] <TIBS01> how do i do a net install on unbuntu
[10:59] <squidly> TIBS01: what is your prolem
[11:00] <malikeye> AlexC_: Al Gore forget to fund a UPS for the interweb ? :)
[11:00] <ceacro> what is the meaning of CUPS?
[11:00] <squidly> AlexC_: oh yea thas right
[11:00] <malikeye> Common Unix Printing Service
[11:00] <ceacro> vey good
[11:00] <squidly> ceacro: www.google.com/q?search=cups
[11:00] <Stormx2> TIBS01: net install? You mean install packages from the internet, or install ubuntu on a machine over the network?
[11:00] <radar1976> Stormx2:  I run firefox, load the login to gmail.com  that works then as soon as it loads the inbox, it crashes
[11:00] <AlexC_> malikeye he funded UPS for one of the internets, but forgot the other internets
[11:00] <TIBS01> squidly i know how todo it i just dont know what file to download so the files  from ftp server
[11:00] <squidly> ceacro: lynx and googles your 2 best buds.. learn to use them
[11:00] <genius314> How do I change the folder used for the pictures screensaver?
[11:00] <Stormx2> radar1976: Odd. Post a topic on ubuntuforums.org
[11:00] <martix> hey there
[11:00] <wastrel> <3 al gore
[11:00] <squidly> TIBS01: ahh ok you need to get an iso to install it
[11:01] <TIBS01> yes
[11:01] <TIBS01> wot one
[11:01] <Music_Shuffle> Hey over thataway.
[11:01] <squidly> TIBS01: and burn that iso to a cdrom and boot off the cdrom
[11:01] <TIBS01> then it downloads packages n stuff from the ftp server
[11:01] <martix> anybody knows how to convert a vcd to mpg?
[11:01] <TIBS01> whats the link to it ?
[11:01] <martix> I want to rip a vcd to a mpg or avi
[11:01] <martix> directly from the cd
[11:01] <martix> or vcd
[11:01] <squidly> TIBS01: i dont recall off the top of my head
[11:01] <TIBS01> :(
[11:01] <malikeye> martix: check out vcdgear
[11:02] <martix> malikeye I downloaded for my ubuntu
[11:02] <martix> but seems like is not workingh
[11:02] <AlexC_> wow, a hold hour sitting in IRC helping people :P
[11:02] <AlexC_> s/hold/whole
[11:02] <Stormx2> AlexC_: I've been nights doing it...
[11:02] <lerneaen_hydra> fun fun fun
[11:02] <malikeye> martix: dunno... that's what I've used before... just used it a couple times to do vcd2mpg or whatever it is
[11:02] <AlexC_> Stormx2: do your eyes not go funny lol
[11:03] <xpc> !hu
[11:03] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[11:03] <lerneaen_hydra> now then, anyone know of an md5 checksum generator/verifier program?
[11:03] <squidly> AlexC_: and getting complained at for not heling thoes who would not help themselves
[11:03] <Stormx2> AlexC_: Insomnia... ya know...
[11:03] <lerneaen_hydra> or if not, a couple shell commands
[11:03] <malikeye> lerneaen_hydra: ummm... md5 ? :p
[11:03] <lerneaen_hydra> yes, but this is a lot of files
[11:03] <lerneaen_hydra> and subdirs
[11:03] <AlexC_> Stormx2: oh right, sometimes I wish I had insomia so I could get work done lol.... but I love my sleep :P
[11:03] <Stormx2> lerneaen_hydra: md5sum I think? ^__^
[11:03] <JosefK> lerneaen_hydra, a combination of md5sum and 'find'
[11:03] <lerneaen_hydra> and my bash-fu is weak
[11:03] <TIBS01> i can't find the file
[11:03] <tonyyarusso> lerneaen_hydra: Yeah, make a script.
[11:03] <mnoir> lerneaen_hydra: md5sum
[11:04] <JosefK> lerneaen_hydra, ie. find . -name "*.iso" -exec md5sum "{}" \;
[11:04] <martix> malikeye yeap, I used on windows
[11:04] <genius314> How do I change the folder for the Pictures Screensaver? Or at least someone tell me where the folder is.
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> lerneaen_hydra: #bash might help with that, or #ubuntu-offtopic, depending on the day.
[11:04] <dibblego> !nvidia
[11:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:04] <lerneaen_hydra> #bash sounds like a good idea
[11:04] <martix> actually im trying to recover a vcd and try to convert it to mp4
[11:04] <squidly> JosefK: its much funner to do find / -name iso -exec md5sum {} \;
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> genius314: The folder would be ~/Pictures - I don't think it's easy to change anymore, unfortunately.
[11:04] <r3m> somebody knows nongnu.org
[11:04] <dibblego> !resolution
[11:04] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:04] <JosefK> squidly, but that'll catch nothing, and bork on filenames with spaces :/
[11:05] <genius314> tonyyarusso: Thanks.
[11:05] <Ferret> squidly: Except his would work, and yours wouldn't?
[11:05] <squidly> JosefK: Ferret yea yea yea.. I just didnt bother with the full regex right
[11:05] <malikeye> lerneaen_hydra: ls | xargs -n1 md5sum
[11:05] <malikeye> that will rip through the dir and show all md5sum's
[11:05] <rizo> I installed grub on as setup (hd0,0) however this is by windows xp (ntfs) partition. So now i can't boot into windows or mount windows in ubuntu as there is an error with the ntfs partition. Any ideas how I can fix this?
[11:05] <lerneaen_hydra> malikeye that sounds almost too easy
[11:05] <squidly> ls -R / | xargs -n1 md5sum
[11:06] <Aspero> I finally made the switch to ubuntu on my home computer, and i have CS:S and WoW working great! but i get no sound in ventrilo
[11:06] <squidly> lerneaen_hydra: heh
[11:06] <malikeye> it on;y displays 'em
[11:06] <squidly> or just md5sum file.iso
[11:06] <lerneaen_hydra> yeah well just add > /dir/file
[11:06] <squidly> Aspero: coolness ^^
[11:06] <malikeye> yeah, squidly is more complete....
[11:06] <Ferret> Or instead of all those ideas that don't work, he could use JosefK's one that actually works!
[11:06] <AlexC_> right, I'm off - bye!
[11:07] <lerneaen_hydra> squidly: I take it it should be >	ls -R /dir/dir2/ | xargs -n1 md5sum
[11:07] <malikeye> yes
[11:07] <genius314> Is there any way to change settings for screensavers?
[11:07] <squidly> lerneaen_hydra: yea that can work
[11:07] <malikeye> oh wait
[11:07] <plypkie> rizo: hmm...sounds like you overwrote the windows bootloader
[11:07] <squidly> lerneaen_hydra: or you can md5sum /dir/dir2/(filename)
[11:07] <rizo> how do i recover it
[11:07] <mnoir> genius314: system >preferences > screensaver might be a start.....
[11:07] <JosefK> Ferret, I just noticed a mistake, "-type f" :(
[11:08] <squidly> lerneaen_hydra: if you are working on a single file
[11:08] <JosefK> I always forget that when using find :(
[11:08] <lerneaen_hydra> squidly: no, this is a ton of files in subdirs
[11:08] <squidly> lol JosefK
[11:08] <squidly> lerneaen_hydra: or you can do this
[11:08] <rizo> i tried fixmbr but it isn't working
[11:08] <voraistos> Hey guys... I have a very strange problem down here, mldonkey related. As it wont start on boot, i would like to apply the patch to the init.d . To patch, i need to apt-get install patch. But now, apt-get tells me it couldnt connect to localhost:4001 , which is the mldonkey GUI port !
[11:08] <genius314> mnoir: I know how to change it, but I want to change some settings.
[11:08] <malikeye> ... ls -R /dir | xargs -n1 md5sum > output.txt
[11:08] <squidly> for i in 'ls -R'; do ; md5sum $i ; done
[11:08] <JosefK> you've angered the gods of #bash with that last question lerneaen_hydra :/ "man find"
[11:08] <squidly> lerneaen_hydra: for i in 'ls -R'; do ; md5sum $i ; done
[11:08] <lerneaen_hydra> JosefK: I see I have...
[11:09] <squidly> JosefK: boohoo
[11:09] <Ferret> JosefK: It doesn't matter that much, it's not as if many people have directories etc. named *.iso
[11:09] <lerneaen_hydra> squidly: is it really needed to use a for loop?
[11:09] <squidly> JosefK: find is bloat wear and ineffieient imho
[11:09] <JosefK> Ferret, true, turns out they want the md5sum of all the files though
[11:09] <squidly> lerneaen_hydra: for going down thew a bunch of files yea
[11:09] <squidly> lerneaen_hydra: and it works clean
[11:09] <lerneaen_hydra> ok
[11:09] <lerneaen_hydra> oh, you don't need find
[11:10] <lerneaen_hydra> nice
[11:10] <JosefK> squidly, more typing == more errors == breakage, find = less typing
[11:10] <Ferret> squidly: I don't think you've actually given a non-broken answer yet
[11:10] <squidly> Ferret: what ever.
[11:10] <JosefK> squidly, and again, your 'for' loop will fail on files with spaces in their names
[11:10] <skukza> how do i exit X when installing nvidia drivers?
[11:10] <Ferret> squidly: Actually, I think that last one was the most broken yet, but I haven't been paying a huge amount of attention
[11:10] <lerneaen_hydra> #bash seemed to like "find -type f -exec md5sum {} \; > file"
[11:10] <squidly> Ferret: i dont give answers. I give a direction
[11:10] <squidly> lerneaen_hydra: im not supprised there
[11:10] <JosefK> lerneaen_hydra, indeed, but stick some quotes around {} (ie. "{}") and you're sorted
[11:11] <lerneaen_hydra> oh, to take care of spaces and such?
[11:11] <genius314> Is it possible at all to not have the Pictures screensaver stretch out my pictures?
[11:11] <JosefK> indeed
[11:11] <lerneaen_hydra> sounds like a plan
[11:11] <pike_> skukza: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  then start or restart later
[11:11] <JosefK> there's a link about "use more quotes" in the FAQ in #bash
[11:11] <squidly> JosefK: get a real shell that works.. get zsh
[11:11] <Ferret> squidly: Any direction involving parsing the output of ls is almost guaranteed to fail, for a variety of reasons, not least of which that it breaks on spaces, ampersands, quote characters, etc. etc.
[11:11] <lerneaen_hydra> what about verification?
[11:11] <pike_> skukza: alt-ctrl-f2 then login and type that
[11:11] <squidly> Ferret: only if you alias ls --color to ls
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> genius314: I'm not sure.  There used to be a lot more options for screensavers, but now it's pretty restrictive.  Had to do with the switch from xscreensaver to gnome-screensaver, so I think you can still switch back if you like.
[11:12] <Ferret> o.O
[11:12] <squidly> Ferret: or just use /bin/ls there you go .. no colors and what not
[11:12] <squidly> Ferret: I dont alias ls to ls --color I alias lsc to color
[11:12] <genius314> tonyyarusso: How would I do that?
[11:12] <JosefK> lerneaen_hydra, you could 'diff' the output I guess, or knock together a small script that takes 'filename md5sum' input and greps the other script, before comparing the md5s
[11:12] <[SPFC] mm> hey guys, do u know if ndiswrapper works on ubuntu amd64 version
[11:12] <diskus> I alias ls to ls --color -F always :P
[11:12] <lerneaen_hydra> JosefK: oh, right
[11:13] <lerneaen_hydra> JosefK: duh...
[11:13] <nelsonuwp> anyone have an external hard drive?
[11:13] <blas_> how can i save export LANG="en_US" setting, if i logout it lost the changes :/
[11:13] <squidly> diskus: i want my command to do what I expect it's written to do
[11:13] <squidly> blas_: .bashrc
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> genius314: Install the xscreensaver package, and then something update alternatives probably...um *isn't sure*
[11:13] <[SPFC] mm> hey guys, do u know if ndiswrapper works on ubuntu amd64 version
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> nelsonuwp: Yep.
[11:13] <diskus> squidly: well it's writen to do --color -F and I like it to have that by default
[11:13] <mnoir> lerneaen_hydra: if you man md5sum, you might learn how to use it to verify against a published file of sums for a given distributed set of files
[11:13] <genius314> tonyyarusso: ok.
[11:13] <squidly> diskus: personal choices
[11:14] <diskus> squidly: yep
[11:14] <squidly> diskus: I dislike it... never said you didnt have to like it
[11:14] <Ferret> squidly: Feel free to make a temporary directory, create a filename called 'hello there', then do ls | xargs rm.  I'd do it for you and take a screenshot only I don't have the software installed to take said screenshot
[11:14] <nelsonuwp> tonyyarusso: is it only windows and mac compliant? because I just bought one today and want to dump all my files on it and then get them off when i switch to linux
[11:14] <diskus> squidly: I think everything in this world is personal choices
[11:14] <squidly> diskus: yep
[11:14] <lerneaen_hydra> thanks for all the information
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> nelsonuwp: Mine works great on any system.  Just mounts like any USB drive.
[11:14] <JosefK> np's, good luck lerneaen_hydra
[11:14] <squidly> Ferret: i dont use xargs like that
[11:14] <squidly> Ferret: actually I dispise xargs as an applicaion
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> nelsonuwp: You could test in a Live CD environment if you're not sure.
[11:15] <tolis> hi there!!!
[11:15] <nelsonuwp> tonyyarusso: how do I do that
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> nelsonuwp: Mine is a Western Digital passport, btw.
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> nelsonuwp: Boot from the live cd, then, plug in the drive and see what happens.
[11:15] <[SPFC] mm> hey guys, do u know if ndiswrapper works on ubuntu amd64 version
[11:15] <ssmasood> hi all
[11:15] <pike_> nelsonuwp: assuming you didnt format it in windows as ntfs you should be ok
[11:15] <blas_> squidly: no such line in .bashrc, i mean something for language :/
[11:15] <tolis> folks i have a proble with a combo pcmcia 3com card <3ccfem556>. Any ideas???
[11:15] <squidly> pike_: even then he/she should be able to read it
[11:15] <squidly> blas_: make one
[11:16] <JosefK> curl http://www.faqs.org/docs/artu/ | squidly
[11:16] <ski-worklap> is there a way to get flash9 working under konqueror?
[11:16] <joel> how can I update easily from breezy to edgy? (I'd like to do it using apt)
[11:16] <nelsonuwp> my external hard drive?
[11:16] <mnoir> !edgy | joel
[11:16] <ubotu> joel: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[11:16] <squidly> JosefK: cat /dev/null >> www.faqs.org/doc/artu
[11:16] <blas_> squidly: whats the syntax? just export LANG="en_US" ?
[11:16] <squidly> yes
[11:16] <ssmasood> my wifi i.e. Intel Proset Wirelss 3945 a/b/g..has no built in support on ubuntu....so i downloaded the driver from intel's website....the driver says that i have to install IEEE subsystem first..but IEEE subsystem has no MAKE file in it...how should i install it???
[11:16] <blas_> squidly: thanks
[11:16] <diskus> joel: as far as I know it's dangerous to do that, and you can break everything
[11:16] <JosefK> seriously though, it's worth a read
[11:16] <joel> ubotu: thanks a lot, somehow couldn't find it
[11:17] <squidly> JosefK: cat /dev/null >> www.faqs.org/doc/artu
[11:17] <tolis> folks i have a proble with a combo pcmcia 3com card <3ccfem556>. Any ideas???
[11:17] <squidly> JosefK: ive read it
[11:17] <squidly> JosefK: total waste of time IMHO
[11:17] <eternal_p> quick question for everyone, is it possible to have more than one network configured in the wpa_suppliement.conf file?
[11:18] <pike_> nelsonuwp: unplug it an plug it back in and maybe do "ls -t /dev | head" and see if a an "sda1" or "sdb1" shows up maybe just not automounting
[11:18] <HymnToLife> [23:16]  <ssmasood> my wifi i.e. Intel Proset Wirelss 3945 a/b/g..has no built in support on ubuntu.... <= yes, it has
[11:18] <eternal_p> wpa_supplicant*
[11:18] <HymnToLife> in Dapper/Edgy at least
[11:18] <plypkie> ssmasood: i have 3945 and it works in edgy
[11:18] <ssmasood> HymnToLife.....when i run the IWCONFIG ....it shows me nothing....
[11:18] <puller> how can i record audio my sound card is playing?
[11:18] <plypkie> ssmasood: i just installed yesterday
[11:18] <plypkie> worked out of the box
[11:18] <ssmasood> plz tell me how can i make it work...
[11:19] <HymnToLife> worked out of the box for me too
[11:19] <plypkie> ssmasood: what version of ubuntu?
[11:19] <tahorg> imbecile: nice nick
[11:20] <tolis> guys pleazzzzzzzzzz !!!!!
[11:20] <imbecile> ty
[11:20] <squidly> lmao imbecile
[11:20] <imbecile> it is relevant
[11:20] <imbecile> hehe
[11:20] <squidly> imbecile: lmao funy as hell though ^^
[11:20] <ssmasood> 6.06 LTS
[11:20] <h00t> is there a way to somehow switch a program/application from one workspace into another
[11:20] <plypkie> tolis: what kernel version?
[11:20] <joel> ubotu: it says i can only upgrade from dapper. Do I have to upgrade to dapper first? I'd really like to avoid that...
[11:20] <eternal_p> h00t if you use Beryl you can just drag it over
[11:20] <HymnToLife> ssmasood, definitely should work
[11:20] <imbecile> ived used this nick on irc for 9 years
[11:21] <squidly> h00t: you using gnome?
[11:21] <Ferret> h00t: Depends on your desktop manager, but typically you can right-click the window header
[11:21] <JosefK> h00t, sure, you can drag the little icon in the workspace switcher (bottom-left by default), or use the right-click menu on the title bar
[11:21] <HymnToLife> ssmasood, try to install the restricted modules for your kernel
[11:21] <squidly> h00t: right click on the menu bar and then send to
[11:21] <JosefK> *bottom-right by default
[11:21] <tolis> plypkie: 2.6.17.10-383 (edgy)
[11:21] <pike_> h00t: in xfce you just right click and select 'send to' gnome i dunno
[11:21] <hjmills> with most music there are several things we want to search by - artist, title, genre, album, year etc - why cant we extend this into other filetypes and do away with folders to create a much more flexible workspace that we can organise easily to suit out needs?
[11:21] <ssmasood> HymTOLife....when i run the wireless assistant ..... in the GUI...it quits saying that no valid adapters
[11:22] <sidny4> hjmills: because that hasn't been made yet, become a programmer and make one
[11:22] <plypkie> ssmasood: do you have "ipw3945" running?
[11:22] <tonyyarusso> hjmills: Well, desktop search is on that road somewhat.
[11:22] <JosefK> hjmills, it has uses in some places, but not in others
[11:22] <ssmasood> nopes?
[11:22] <imbecile> anybody know a way to get wlassistant to work with wpa?
[11:22] <hjmills> JosefK: i can see it wouldnt be useful with somethings but most files it would be useful to be able to organise by search by recently used, filetype, etc
[11:22] <tolis> plypkie: sorry !!! 2.6.17.10-386 (edgy)
[11:23] <imbecile> or a good wpa manager
[11:23] <XChrisCX> Can anyone suggest a good download manager? I'm only on dial up and I keep getting server timeout. A resume fuction would be very useful.
[11:23] <plypkie> ssmasood: which kernel?
[11:23] <eternal_p> imbecile, try connection-manager
[11:23] <JosefK> hjmills, 'beagle' kind of does what you want
[11:23] <eternal_p> you can find it on the fourms
[11:23] <hjmills> tonyyarusso: its still to abstract from the filesystem for my liking - i think i will file my idea away and try and remember it when i know more about programming
[11:23] <imbecile> eternal_p thanks
[11:23] <Ferret> XChrisCX: wget has resume functionality if the server supports it.  -r I think?
[11:23] <eternal_p> no problem
[11:23] <ssmasood> plypkie.....2.6.15
[11:24] <JosefK> hjmills, do an aptitude install of 'beagle' and see if it does roughly what you're thinking of
[11:24] <hjmills> sidny4: trying when i have time - been playing with ruby, python, perl, c++ and scheme (in roughly that order)
[11:24] <imbecile> tonyyarusso helped me out last night
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> hjmills: Sounds like a plan.  You could work on writing up a spec on the wiki and launchpad too while you're at it.
[11:24] <rapid> XChrisCX, kde - kget
[11:24] <sidny4> hjmills: that works
[11:24] <plypkie> ssmasood: i seem to have this thing running: "/sbin/ipw3945d-2.6.17-10-generic"
[11:24] <XChrisCX> What about something I can plug into firefox perhaps? Or some kind of GUI interface.
[11:24] <nelsonuwp> I havent installed or done anything with my external hard drive yet. I just want to make sure it works for windows and linux
[11:24] <JosefK> <3 scheme
[11:24] <plypkie> lemme just check what package it's in
[11:24] <hjmills> why does installing beagle suggest installing gnumeric?
[11:25] <hjmills> tonyyarusso: any guide on writing up a spec for that?
[11:25] <wastrel> i like gnumeric
[11:25] <imbecile> i just have to say that ubuntu blows fc outta the water
[11:25] <JosefK> hjmills, I hadn't noticed that, and it's an odd one
[11:25] <plypkie> ssmasood: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic  is the package
[11:25] <plypkie> ssmasood: maybe you have something similar
[11:25] <jart> does anyone know why 'bitstream vera sans mono' doesn't show up in xfontsel with edgy?
[11:25] <wastrel> i imagine it uses a library so it can understand gnumeric files?
[11:25] <ssmasood> plypkie.....lemmee check...i am in real trouble:)
[11:25] <tonyyarusso> hjmills: I think there is - I'd search for something like SpecTemplate on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/, and look at a few of the ones that have been done before.
[11:25] <pike_> nelsonuwp: itll be fat32 and should work from solaris to ubuntu to windows
[11:26] <h00t> thanx all i got it
[11:26] <plypkie> ssmasood: aptitude search linux-restricted
[11:26] <viller> hi
[11:26] <pike_> nelsonuwp: so yes
[11:26] <hjmills> tonyyarusso: thanks
[11:26] <ssmasood> plypkie...i am trying that
[11:26] <viller> is there any other CLI mail client than mutt or pine?
[11:26] <jart> i installed ttf-bitstream-vera but i can't use it :(
[11:26] <Yodude> hello it's me again
[11:26] <Yodude> but now from ubuntu!
[11:26] <Yodude> :)
[11:26] <jart> and emacs looks ugly with all other fonts
[11:27] <JosefK> jart: two secs, I'll screenshot my emacs..
[11:27] <^T-crimbo^> fuck unbuntu
[11:27] <^T-crimbo^> its shit
[11:27] <Yodude> hey i'm having a big problem with ubuntu
[11:27] <^T-crimbo^> im  gonna use gentoo
[11:27] <keychain6x> ubuntu is so good
[11:27] <^T-crimbo^> unbuntu too many bugs
[11:27] <^T-crimbo^> nah
[11:27] <Juhaz> !ops
[11:27] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[11:27] <skarface> ^T-crimbo^: k love ya bye bye
[11:27] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | ^T-crimbo^
[11:27] <ubotu> ^T-crimbo^: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:27] <jart> ^T-crimbo^: if you're going to be an elitist, i recommend OpenBSD
[11:27] <nelsonuwp> well thanks pike.. so what the hell is solaris?
[11:27] <TIBS01> i am
[11:27] <jart> it's the official distro of trolls
[11:28] <PriceChild> What's your question Yodude ?
[11:28] <JosefK> jart, http://randolphcarter.myby.co.uk/linux/emacs.png
[11:28] <imbecile> i cant say i didnt see that coming
[11:28] <imbecile> hehe
[11:28] <JosefK> jart, emacs snapshot <3 freetype
[11:28] <keychain6x> lol, OpenBSD, it doesn't get anymore elitist than that
[11:28] <siv0x> yodude: welcome back, what problem are you having?
[11:28] <idlemind> hello
[11:28] <jart> beautiful, i just don't have time to port my .emacs to snapshot :(
[11:28] <plypkie> ssmasood: also, do you have a module loaded called ieee80211?
[11:29] <Yodude> help please
[11:29] <JosefK> ack :/
[11:29] <ssmasood> plypkie.....yes i can see three things in....aptitude search linux-restricted
[11:29] <Pie-rate> how would i make my gnome-panel black?
[11:29] <idlemind> excuse me, anyone know if you chroot jail users when the log in via ssh?
[11:29] <txoof> I get the error "cupsdAuthorize: pam_authenticate() returned 7 (Authentication failure)!"  When I try to access the admin pages in cups. Any ideas what might be the problem.  I've tried the privleged user, root, I've even tried setting a password for cupsys.  None of those work.
[11:29] <viller> is there any other CLI mail client than mutt or pine?
[11:29] <JosefK> idlemind, mnot by default
[11:29] <imbecile> keychain6x, yeah i hear ya on that one.. the guy who convinced me to switch over to a *nix OS was a open bsd user
[11:29] <tonyyarusso> idlemind: (I'd like to know how to do that too, btw)
[11:29] <txoof> idlemind: no
[11:29] <siv0x> yodude: i cannot help unless you tell me what you are having problems with.
[11:29] <Yodude> i cannot access my harddrive hrough ubuntu LiveCD
[11:29] <plypkie> ssmasood: ok, you'll need to install the right linux-restricted package (maybe linux-restricted-generic ?)
[11:29] <idlemind> josefk: so just rtfm and find out what config options
[11:29] <tonyyarusso> !rtfm | idlemind
[11:29] <ubotu> idlemind: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[11:29] <jart> JosefK: how can you stand programming with a white background?  isn't it like staring at a lightbulb?
[11:30] <ssmasood> plypkie....i dont have ieee loaded neither...ipw3945
[11:30] <wastrel> viller:  mailx
[11:30] <wastrel> also elm
[11:30] <siv0x> yodude: i thought you installed linux onto your hardrive?
[11:30] <idlemind> tonyyarusso: thank you lol; un-aware of that rule
[11:30] <mike> how can i capture audio from a website?
[11:30] <tolis> plypkie: any news ????
[11:30] <Yodude> no on LiveCD
[11:30] <Yodude> but it's doing many big problems!
[11:30] <txoof> mike: with a tape recorder.
[11:30] <Yodude> no sound!
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> idlemind: I did it for logins with ftp, and was pretty simple.  Involved setting an option on, and then creating a list of users to chroot.  Where to depended on /etc/passwd.  I'm guessing ssh is similar.
[11:30] <JosefK> jart, I thought that for a while, always used a dark with vim, but I guess I just prefer the light background in emacs
[11:30] <plypkie> tolis: sorry, trying to do 3 things at once
[11:30] <Yodude> no hardrive!
[11:31] <Yodude> please help me!
[11:31] <plypkie> tolis: i was going to suggest upgrading to a newer kernel, but it seems that you have a pretty new one already
[11:31] <ssmasood> plypkie...how do i install linux restricted???
[11:31] <tolis> plypkie: understand sorry !!!
[11:31] <kane77> how do I upgrade to gnome 2.16?? (I use dapper and have gnome 2.14)
[11:31] <jart> white is just too visial studio for me
[11:31] <mike> txoof, was that a joke? i want to record to my harddrive
[11:31] <siv0x> yodude: You dont understand. LiveCD does not run on your Hard Drive, it doesnt install.
[11:31] <idlemind> tonyyarusso: ya i'll see what i can dig up in the man pages and such
[11:31] <Yodude> i know
[11:31] <plypkie> ssmasood: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-generic
[11:31] <Yodude> that's why i'm using it fits perfectly my needs
[11:31] <pike_> mike: what format? if just wanting to capture mp3s id just recommend streamtuner and streamripper
[11:31] <txoof> ssmasood: add the restricted archive to your apt-get config in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:31] <hjmills> can anybody recommend a programming language for easy creation of gui apps for gnome that I can learn the basics of programming with (teaching myself)
[11:31] <keychain6x> imbecile, I tried installing that on my machine. It was so hard man.
[11:32] <Yodude> but i thought it would run normally ( i little slower i know bcuz of CD)
[11:32] <mike> pike_, i want a way to record into a format i could put onto an ipod
[11:32] <siv0x> yodude: to get sound type alsamixer in terminal. hit enter ofcourse and then from there, everything with an MM at the bottom, select it with your arrow keys and press M to unmute. also make sure all the volumes are turned up.
[11:32] <txoof> any ideas what would cause cups to barf on a pam_autheticate error when I try to access the admin pages via the web?
[11:32] <Yodude> ok wait
[11:32] <plypkie> hjmills: lots of people seem to like Python, and they claim it's easy to learn
[11:33] <ssmasood> plypkie..it says couldnt find any package linux-restricted-modules-generic
[11:33] <mike> pike_, any ideas?
[11:33] <hjmills> plypkie: thanks
[11:33] <imbecile> anybody tell me how to install connect-0.6.2 ?
[11:33] <plypkie> ssmasood: you said there were 3 matches when you searched?  which ones were there?
[11:33] <JosefK> hjmills, if you use a combination of a python-libglade and Glade (graphical GUI designer) it's hard to go wrong
[11:33] <nelsonuwp> pike_: what the hell is solaris?
[11:33] <idlemind> o and ? number 2 for the day; can i make apache2 to use the system users found in /etc/passwd for authentication? to avoid having two sets of user names and passwords to maintain
[11:34] <txoof> nelsonuwp: awww, that's cute.
[11:34] <nelsonuwp> hey
[11:34] <nelsonuwp> im new
[11:34] <nelsonuwp> shh
[11:34] <keychain6x> Hey, anybody know if there's any geographic mapping software like ARCMAP for linux? It would be sweet to hook up the gps in my phone to my computer and map my town.
[11:34] <ceacro> hello again
[11:34] <txoof> nelsonuwp: solaris is an OS for/from sun.
[11:34] <tonyyarusso> nelsonuwp: Sun Microsystems OS.
[11:34] <mike> any one know how to record sound to my hardrive that my soeakers are playing?
[11:34] <nelsonuwp> thats what I thought
[11:34] <tonyyarusso> nelsonuwp: It _has_ a desktop, but only really has respect on servers.
[11:34] <che_benway> ex-chat
[11:34] <Yodude> well there's the sound icon at the top right of the screen
[11:34] <idlemind> keychain6x: howtoforge.com has a wardriving article that involves GPS mapping check that out for ideas it involves dumping to google earth
[11:34] <nelsonuwp> but I didnt make the connection
[11:35] <JosefK> tonyyarusso, I wouldn't say that, Sunray's coming on leaps and bounds
[11:35] <nelsonuwp> so thanks
[11:35] <Yodude> i clicked it and booste evrything
[11:35] <nelsonuwp> now time to install linux.. ubunut
[11:35] <nelsonuwp> ubuntu
[11:35] <ceacro> why is UBUNTU the best Linux Distro around the world?
[11:35] <Yodude> i even unmuted the capture!
[11:35] <JosefK> !best
[11:35] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[11:35] <ssmasood> plypkie....linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386, linux-restricted-modules-386, linux-restricted-modules-common
[11:35] <txoof> ceacro: why am I the most handsome man in the world?
[11:35] <plypkie> ssmasood: ok, try that first one then
[11:35] <tonyyarusso> JosefK: Well, it may be getting there.  All I know is I haven't heard great things in the past.  Haven't even tried it myself.
[11:35] <siv0x> yodude: yes that will work too.. just make sure everything is unmuted and you should be fine. might have to configure the sounds to the way you like.
[11:35] <tonyyarusso> ceacro: I like the release schedule and community.
[11:35] <JackInTheGreen> txoof: You're not, I am
[11:35] <wastrel> what's sunray
[11:36] <txoof> JackInTheGreen: hehe
[11:36] <JosefK> tonyyarusso, CDE's pretty much obsoleted now, they're using Gnome right now and it's great.  I flew out to bratislava, inserted my staff card and got my desktop session from munich
[11:36] <ceacro> according to distrowatch the best distro is ubuntu
[11:36] <keychain6x> oh thanks idlemind. that's great.
[11:36] <kane77> ceacro, well, its subjective, but i think it's for its ease of use, and almost everything works out of the box... plus the community is large and very helpful...
[11:36] <mike> Yodude, but how do i capture?
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> JosefK: Maybe worth a second look then.
[11:36] <Yodude> i'm new sorru
[11:36] <ceacro> visit distrowatch.com
[11:37] <JosefK> wastrel, it's a thin-client/mainframe platform
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> ceacro: You're best bet, pop a live cd in and hang out here for a while, and see what you think for yourself :)
[11:37] <Yodude> but i still don't hear any sound, to check i went to System-Preferences-Sound
[11:37] <wilee85> is there a command line to synchronize the system clock with an ntp server?
[11:37] <idlemind> <= community
[11:37] <imbecile> anybody know if there is a  connect-0.6.2 with an installer?
[11:37] <ssmasood> plylkie...i wrote aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386, but it says No packages installed or upgraded
[11:37] <Yodude> and when i try to playback any even volume i get NOTHING
[11:37] <mnoir> wilee85: man ntpdate
[11:37] <idlemind> wilee85: i believe it's the ntp-date command
[11:37] <Yodude> also ubuntu is always seeing my intel sound card as the default
[11:38] <Yodude> but i want to use my other one
[11:38] <siv0x> yodude, okay
[11:38] <nelsonuwp> ok, one last thing before i install.... what is the best way to get my drivers back on my computer... find and save them now? or get them when i have ubuntu installed?
[11:38] <siv0x> yodude: sec
[11:38] <crimsun> Yodude: asoundconf list
[11:38] <Yodude> but i can't everytime i set it it goes back to intel!
[11:38] <HighLife> Does anyone know of a multi threaded app that will convert .avito a smaller .avi?
[11:38] <ceacro> R.T.F.M
[11:38] <ceacro> Read the Fucking Manual
[11:38] <plypkie> ssmasood: dpkg -l linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386
[11:38] <ceacro> before asking
[11:38] <siv0x> Yodude: Listen to crimsun. i'm pretty much giving you the same information he gave me.
[11:38] <tonyyarusso> nelsonuwp: For what?  The drivers for Ubuntu won't be the same as in Windows.
[11:38] <plypkie> ssmasood: tell me if it says "ii" at the start of the line
[11:39] <tonyyarusso> ceacro: We don't allow that phrase though.
[11:39] <nelsonuwp> k
[11:39] <nelsonuwp> so thereare different drivers
[11:39] <nelsonuwp> ?
[11:39] <plypkie> ssmasood: that would mean that the package is already installed
[11:39] <nelsonuwp> k so what about getting the drivers for my wireless card and all that stuff
[11:39] <idlemind> tonyyarusso: http://www.tjw.org/chroot-login-HOWTO/
[11:39] <wilee85> mnoir, idlemind, thanks
[11:39] <ceacro> the freedom of speech
[11:39] <tonyyarusso> nelsonuwp: Yeah.  Mostly they're built into the kernel.  You may want to check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport to see if anything is likely to cause problems.
[11:39] <Yodude> i didn't understand what he said
[11:39] <ceacro> is UBUNTU
[11:39] <tonyyarusso> idlemind: Awesome.
[11:39] <idlemind> tonyyarusso: found it in a link in openssh's mailing lists
[11:39] <idlemind> wilee85: np
[11:39] <ssmasood> plypkie..yes it has an "i" in front of all those 3
[11:39] <kane77> wilee85, ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[11:39] <wastrel> !rtfm | ceacro
[11:39] <ubotu> ceacro: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[11:39] <plypkie> nelsonuwp: your drivers should be installed automatically
[11:39] <crimsun> Yodude: type that command in a Terminal and tell me the output.
[11:40] <wastrel> !ohmy | ceacro
[11:40] <ubotu> ceacro: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:40] <imbecile> is wifi-radar pretty intuitive?
[11:40] <mike> how can i capture audio playign through my speakers!!!!?
[11:40] <cafuego_> HighLife: You can recode media (resize, change bitrate, change format) using ffmpeg.
[11:40] <siv0x> yodude: go to terminal and type asoundconf list and hit enter.
[11:40] <ceacro> that is a common expression used for Linux users
[11:40] <txoof> mike, google.  Serriously.  there are about 30 apps that will do it.
[11:40] <Yodude> how do i access the terminal ( sorry but i'm a firsrt timer here )
[11:40] <kane77> ceacro, ...but not very polite...
[11:40] <JackInTheGreen> What is the difference of: "Freedom, as in free beer" and "Freedom as in free software"?
[11:40] <plypkie> ssmasood: try this: dpkg -L linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386
[11:40] <crimsun> Yodude: Applications> Accessories> Terminal
[11:40] <plypkie> ssmasood: that will list the contents of the package
[11:41] <ceacro> ohh. Liberty of speech
[11:41] <plypkie> ssmasood: then you can see if it has the ipw3945 in there
[11:41] <imbecile> read the DANG manual hehe
[11:41] <ceacro> Now I am a priest
[11:41] <imbecile> rtdm
[11:41] <mike> txoof, well i cant find any woudl u liek to help me?
[11:41] <plypkie> ssmasood: i have to go get ready to go to work.  i'll be back in 20 minutes
[11:41] <idlemind> tony: might be easier to just make sure we screw-down the security via permissions and keep a close eye on sshd/ssh/bash bugs
[11:41] <cafuego_> JackInTheGreen: free as in beer means no monetary cost, free as in libre means you'renot limited in how you sue it, including using the source to change it.
[11:41] <ceacro> May God help user to read the manual before asking
[11:41] <Slart> Anyone know of a simple backup program, preferably console based, that can use incremental backup?
[11:41] <Yodude> ok i did it
[11:41] <ceacro> LOL
[11:41] <txoof> JackInTheGreen: free beer = delicious and corpreal; free speech, software, thought = free, but not substantial.
[11:41] <imbecile> lol
[11:41] <Yodude> i got two result lines
[11:42] <crimsun> Yodude: and what are they?
[11:42] <Yodude> one is I82801DBICH4
[11:42] <ssmasood> plypkie...ok man i am waiting...yes that dpkg command worked
[11:42] <JackInTheGreen> cafuego_ txoof tnx guys
[11:42] <mike> will anyone help me?
[11:42] <crimsun> Yodude: right, that's your onboard Intel.
[11:42] <blas_> i can see, video resolution in kubuntu's display settings in X but only 60hz is available in the list, how can i add more option there?
[11:42] <tonyyarusso> idlemind: Much of the time anyway.  (My main purpose would probably to avoid new users getting lost in /usr/share/something and not knowing how to get home...)
[11:42] <Yodude> and the other is CMI8738MC6
[11:42] <Mastastealth> hey guys, I just updated my linux-image package today, and now Ubuntu won't boot. Grub complains about a file not found...any ideas?
[11:42] <crimsun> Yodude: now in the same Terminal, type: asoundconf set-default-card CMI8738MC6
[11:42] <Yodude> i know i don't want to use my moither booard
[11:42] <nix_ferret> Slart, I just installed a backup proggie w/ automatix, but I haven't tried it yet.
[11:42] <txoof> Slart: try backup2l.  It's quite good and easy to configure.
[11:42] <Fah> anyone using compiz+ati+edgy?
[11:42] <Yodude> ok wait
[11:42] <name> you know any good linux games, except of et ;)
[11:42] <logivision> Does anybody here know anything about networking with window's ?
[11:42] <kane77> JackInTheGreen, free as beer=freeware, free as speech = meaning with open source code... (not closed source)
[11:43] <cafuego_> logivision: use samba, works fine :-)
[11:43] <nix_ferret> logivision, like what?
[11:43] <diskus> name: savage, tremulous...
[11:43] <Yodude> didn't give me any result
[11:43] <kane77> name: openarena, tremulous, alienarena...
[11:43] <Slart> backup2l then.. I'll check the one in automatix.. thanks nix_ferret and txoof
[11:43] <crimsun> Yodude: good.
[11:43] <mike> how can i capture audio that is being played through my speakers?
[11:43] <tonyyarusso> logivision: I think there's a ##networking that might be worth a shot for some things.  Sharing things in Ubuntu, samba.
[11:43] <Yodude> just anohter line to type a command in
[11:43] <name> any non shooters
[11:43] <tonyyarusso> !automatix | Slart
[11:43] <ubotu> Slart: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:43] <kane77> name: battle for wesnoth
[11:43] <idlemind> tonyyarusso: exactly i might just disable ssh access to my server since i relocated my virtual hosts logs for apache to the particular virtual hosts home dir so they can access them via ftp anyways
[11:43] <eternal_p> mike: trying to get rid of DRM, tisk tisk tisk ;)
[11:43] <crimsun> Yodude: now restart your audio/video programs
[11:43] <mwe> !fixres | blas_, you probably have to add the right specs for your monitor
[11:43] <ubotu> blas_, you probably have to add the right specs for your monitor: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:43] <wastrel> name:  moon-buggy
[11:43] <diskus> name: that's hard... :P
[11:43] <logivision> nix_ferret: I'm trying to use CrossOver and i need to network my linux machine with window's
[11:43] <idlemind> cheer to mike
[11:43] <Yodude> wait
[11:43] <mike> eternal_p, nope, tryign to record audio from a website
[11:44] <Slart> yes, I know, tonyyarusso. I'll be wevy wevy caweful.. ;)
[11:44] <mike> idlemind, lol
[11:44] <eternal_p> logvision: what would that need crossover for
[11:44] <Fah> anyone know how I can get my meta key working right in compiz/xgl?
[11:44] <tonyyarusso> Slart: 'k :P
[11:44] <skukza> well ive broken x
[11:44] <mike> skukza, beryl?
[11:44] <idlemind> lol; pipe the audio somehow to a file; time to go code spelunking in firefox
[11:44] <mnoir> very careful = not using automatix
[11:44] <nix_ferret> logivision, hmm, never did the ad hoc with nix. That's a good one...
[11:44] <logivision> eternal_p: i need it to run a program
[11:44] <ceacro> God help users who have problem with something
[11:44] <faLUCE> Hi, is it possible to launch a program from a .sh script and redirect its input in an appearing window? thnks
[11:44] <mike> idlemind, can u dumb that down a bit?
[11:44] <eternal_p> that part I got, it wasd the networking that threw me
[11:44] <ceacro> lol
[11:45] <skukza> i went to init3 and then did sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:45] <eternal_p> btw, CrossOver 6 is amazing :)
[11:45] <ceacro> Laugh Out Loud
[11:45] <mike> lol
[11:45] <faLUCE> Hi, is it possible to launch a program from a .sh script and redirect its STDOUY in an appearing window? thnks
[11:45] <skukza> now when i try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:45] <Yodude> didn't get no sound ( when i go to System-Prefs-Sound i still see the name of the intel card at the bottom)
[11:45] <skukza> it says it isnt configured propperly
[11:45] <crimsun> Yodude: ignore what's said in System> Preferences> Sound
[11:45] <txoof> anyone know what would cause cups to barf when it treis to pam_authenticate() over a web connection?
[11:45] <idlemind> mike: just a theory; the web-site has to push the stream of music data down to you; who knows what format you could possible program the web-browser to pipe that recieved data to a file
[11:45] <nix_ferret> JMHO, but I didn't have any problems with automatix on 6.10. It now includes a uninstall feature which is pretty handy.
[11:46] <crimsun> Yodude: tell me if ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' is audible through the desired sound card
[11:46] <Yodude> ok
[11:46] <logivision> eternal_p: It's a client software that connects to a server. The Server has to be run off of Window's, but apparently the client software works with linux. My best thought is that they people that got it working (not geniuses by any means) are using CrossOver. It saves alot of money not having to pay to install Window's on all the client PC's
[11:46] <idlemind> mike: other option would be to create an audio device that simply dumbs raw sound to a file then use an audio converter app to read that (<- probably the easier way to go)
[11:46] <wastrel> !automatix | nix_ferret
[11:46] <ubotu> nix_ferret: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:46] <nix_ferret> Jeez, I know, I know already...
[11:46] <tonyyarusso> txoof: I had to make the cupsys user a member of the shadow group for something.  That may be your issue, maybe not.
[11:46] <idlemind> mike: for the second option you could probably get with the guys that work with alsa i'm sure they've develop'd such a device for some such "testing" purpose
[11:47] <Yodude> well i pasted aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav in the terminal it said "playing" but still no sound
[11:47] <crimsun> Yodude: then you need to adjust the volumes.
[11:47] <mike> idlemind, i dont know any code....
[11:47] <nix_ferret> Yodude, I know this sounds stupid, but is it a laptop?
[11:47] <crimsun> Yodude: you can use alsamixergui to do that (you'll need to install alsamixergui using Synaptic)
[11:47] <Yodude> no it's a desktop
[11:48] <skukza> how do i install gcc without x
[11:48] <idlemind> mike: bummers; i'd hit the alsa mailing list and see if someone has done such a thing or possibly you can do a hardware capture; like buy something that takes analog input and records it like dubbing a tape but the input would be from your computer
[11:48] <mwe> skukza: sudo aptitude install gcc?
[11:48] <crimsun> skukza: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[11:48] <Zambezi> Anyone know the commando for download folders in lftp? It didn't work with mget and get.
[11:48] <idlemind> mike: you could try some nature of audio/music shop they might have such a device or mixer or something
[11:48] <logivision> eternal_p: any idea's ?
[11:48] <crimsun> Zambezi: mirror.
[11:48] <idlemind> mike: then you could play that in through line-in and use an audio app like audicity to record it
[11:48] <crimsun> mike: use the file alsa-lib plugin.
[11:49] <mike> there shoudl be a free program somewhere
[11:49] <crimsun> mike: we've provided it as part of alsa-lib since the 0.5 days.
[11:49] <mwe> skukza: what crimsun suggests will provide a working compile environment as well
[11:49] <mike> idlemind, in ubuntu there is sound recorder, but i cant get it to work
[11:49] <idlemind> mike: i'm just spittin ideas out there
[11:49] <skukza> ok thanks
[11:49] <skukza> now to try and fix my totally buggered system :)
[11:49] <mike> idlemind, coudl u help me get sound recorder to actually record?
[11:49] <ssmasood> plypkie....r u back?
[11:50] <nix_ferret> Yodude, do you have an integrated sound card AND a pci card?
[11:50] <mike> crimsun, what is the alsa-lib plugin
[11:50] <Yodude> i don't see yes i do nix
[11:50] <crimsun> mike: it's called 'file'
[11:50] <Yodude> in windows i just don't use one n use the other
[11:50] <Mastastealth> hey guys, I just updated my linux-image package today, and now Ubuntu won't boot. Grub complains about a file not found...any ideas?
[11:50] <crimsun> mike: read the alsa-lib documentation online under pcm plugins at http://www.alsa-project.org
[11:50] <nix_ferret> Yodude, it might be "playing" to the other one. Is it disabled in the BIOS?
[11:51] <Yodude> the non integrated sound card?
[11:51] <nix_ferret> yeah
[11:51] <nix_ferret> err, no, disable the other - integrated
[11:51] <crimsun> Yodude: did you adjust the volumes for the cmi?
[11:51] <Yodude> well i can use it in windows so that means it's not disabled in BIOS
[11:51] <crimsun> Yodude: until you do so, you probably won't be able to hear anything.
[11:52] <nix_ferret> Yodude, Just a shot in the dark, but swap out the audio cable to the other port/card.
[11:52] <nix_ferret> *unless you already did this...
[11:53] <siv0x> crimsun: Yodude is on LiveCD by the way so there might be another option for him
[11:53] <Yodude> wqell i tried putting my iPod speakers in the inget=grated intel card
[11:53] <Yodude> didn't work
[11:53] <crimsun> siv0x: it's the same precise procedure.
[11:54] <ssmasood> can anybody plz help me.....i was talking to someone regarding my intel proset 3945 wireless a/b/g...i now have a file ipw3945 in /sbin..what do i do next
[11:54] <Nap> is it possible that a firefox command run on a remote ssh connection launch the local firefox ?? o_O
[11:54] <crimsun> Yodude: no, your default audio card is the cmi now. You need to adjust -its- volume, not the onboard's.
[11:54] <Nap> on edgy
[11:54] <idlemind> yodude: your card isn't set to digital output mode is it?
[11:54] <nix_ferret> Yodude, doesn't the device manager tel you what ubuntu can "see"
[11:54] <wastrel> hi nap
[11:54] <idlemind> nap: from a linux sshd to a linux ssh client yes with X forwarding it is possible
[11:54] <JAyRULE> how do you ubuntu users tyipcally deal with windows media file types?
[11:55] <Yodude> i did i picked the CMI card in from the menu i got from the top right sound icon
[11:55] <Yodude> and i unmuted everything
[11:55] <Zambezi> crimsun, Thanks for the help.
[11:55] <Yodude> n maxed all of the bars
[11:55] <Some_Person> whats the best irc client?
[11:55] <nix_ferret> JAyRULE, install the open (or sometimes closed) source codecs
[11:55] <mwe> !best | Some_Person
[11:55] <ubotu> Some_Person: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[11:55] <mike> any help with recording audio from what my speakers are playing?
[11:55] <wastrel> <3 mwe
[11:56] <JAyRULE> nix_ferret: is that in the synaptic package manager?
[11:56] <wastrel> that is an awesome factoid
[11:56] <wastrel> aw3s0m3
[11:56] <crimsun> Yodude: counterintuitively, unmuting -everything- won't work.
[11:56] <JAyRULE> nix_ferret...and whats it called if it's there
[11:56] <nix_ferret> JAyRULE, no, it can't come with the distribution
[11:56] <Yodude> 'lol i'm lost
[11:56] <mwe> Some_Person: xchat and irssi might be good candidates depending on what you want
[11:56] <eitan> hey guys, I need help with gsynaptics, the laptop touchpad editor.  The touchpad settings are not loaded after a reboot, but are loaded after a log-out / log-in.  I have this in start-up.. "gsynaptics-init --sm-disable"  Thanks!
[11:56] <Yodude> i don't understand why ubuntu isn't playing sound
[11:56] <mike> can i have help with sound recorder application sin ubuntu!!!!?
[11:56] <nix_ferret> JAyRULE, READ up on automatix, easy ubuntu, and bumps2.0
[11:57] <Yodude> crappy old windows does why shouldn't ubuntu
[11:57] <tannerld> glxgears doesn't show anything after I installed the ati drivers; how can i fix that?
[11:57] <crimsun> Yodude: I've told you what you need to do.
[11:57] <Nap> idlemind: no, what I meant is that the local firefox is launch (I see it because of the conf, the personal bar, etc.), and not the remote one ! But I am in a remote shell !
[11:57] <JAyRULE> nix_ferret: sh!t thats a lot to read haha
[11:57] <nix_ferret> not really.
[11:57] <crimsun> Yodude: first, use Synaptic to install the "alsamixergui" package
[11:57] <crimsun> Yodude: it's in the universe component, so you may need to enable it.
[11:57] <WestTrain>  /server irc.strayaland.org
[11:57] <nix_ferret> JAyRULE, just go to ubuntu's forums or goolge it
[11:57] <nix_ferret> !automatix
[11:57] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:57] <west_coast_chopp> anyone from greece?
[11:57] <JAyRULE> oh okay... thanks nix_ferret
[11:58] <nix_ferret> !automatix|easy ubuntu
[11:58] <ubotu> easy ubuntu: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:58] <nix_ferret> np
[11:58] <west_coast_chopp> anyone from greece?
[11:58] <mnoir> !gr
[11:58] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[11:58] <Rug> What command can I run to swap/select between kdm, gdm and xdm?
[11:58] <nix_ferret> I like gyros, does that help? (know's that's not really "greek")
[11:58] <fdoving> Rug: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[11:59] <Rug> fdoving: thanks
[11:59] <Yodude> crimsun: i entered synaptic package manager
[11:59] <fdoving> Rug: you can replace gdm with kdm or xdm if you want.
[11:59] <Yodude> and i don't see alsamixergui
[11:59] <Rug> fdoving: yeah thanks
[11:59] <Yodude> i only see two names with alsa
[11:59] <crimsun> Yodude: remember what I said about universe above?
[11:59] <Yodude> alsabase
[11:59] <Yodude> and alsatools
[11:59] <crimsun> Yodude: please pay close attention to what I typed.
[11:59] <Yodude> alsa-utils*
[12:00] <eitan> hey guys, I need help with gsynaptics, the laptop touchpad editor.  The touchpad settings are not loaded after a reboot, but are loaded after a log-out / log-in.  I have this in start-up.. "gsynaptics-init --sm-disable"  Thanks!
[12:00] <ssmasood> plypkie.....r u back
[12:00] <Yodude> sorry but i didn't understand
[12:00] <Yodude> i thought u were just informing me
[12:00] <Yodude> what does it help me to know that it's a universe component?