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| Hobbsee | are the launchpad emails protected from spammers? | 02:53 |
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| mdke | that's a good question. I don't get so much spam from my preferred address, but that's just a vague sensation | 02:53 |
| jelmer | Hobbsee: I think you can only view them if you're logged in | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | mdke: i'm getting *heaps* | 02:54 |
| mdke | Hobbsee: I get a serious amount from the ubuntu mailserver, are you sure it isn't that? | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | mdke: with a @kubuntu.org and @ubuntu.com email | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | uh, how do they differ? as in, bugmail and all that? | 02:55 |
| mdke | yeah, that's nothing to do with Launchpad | 02:55 |
| mdke | it's just that the mailserver is spam heavy | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | i'm not talking bugmail/mailing lists - i'm meaning spam, nigerian grants, enlargements for stuff i dont have, etc. | 02:55 |
| mdke | yes, I get several hundred a day | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | mdke: ugh. | 02:56 |
| mdke | spamassassin deals with it fine | 02:56 |
| === Hobbsee wonders if the mailing list can be stopped in this nasty trait. | ||
| mdke | are you a mailing list admin? | 02:56 |
| mdke | that's even worse then, most of mine comes from that | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | ah...no, dont think so. | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | i'm the admin of a team on LP though | 02:56 |
| mdke | Hobbsee: for the record, you should change your preferred address in launchpad, you can't use your ubuntu/kubuntu addresses for that | 02:57 |
| mdke | you need to use the account that you want that email to redirect to | 02:57 |
| Hobbsee | mdke: it appears it's just sending to all previous email addresses in there. | 02:57 |
| mdke | yes, but it is likely to break at any time | 02:58 |
| Hobbsee | mdke: hehe, yeah.... | 02:58 |
| mdke | seriously | 02:58 |
| Hobbsee | mdke: i cant. not until i can find somewhere else to point the launchpad team mail | 02:58 |
| mdke | where is it currently pointed? | 02:58 |
| Hobbsee | at my gmail address, whcih is where half of my @ubuntu.com mail seems to go too | 02:59 |
| mdke | so can't you set that as your preferred address? | 02:59 |
| Hobbsee | (emails have to be unique, etc) | 02:59 |
| Hobbsee | not when LP already has that address set as the team address | 02:59 |
| mdke | oh, crazy, you're a person and a team? | 02:59 |
| Hobbsee | ubuntu-universe-sponsors is a team, and the mail currently goes to me. | 03:00 |
| Hobbsee | i can merge the person and team, too :P | 03:00 |
| === Hobbsee thinks that shouldnt be allowed | ||
| mdke | ah, you definitely need to change that :) | 03:00 |
| mdke | anyway, just a friendly warning: your email may break at any time and you'll lose mail | 03:00 |
| mdke | I've had it from the horse's mouth | 03:00 |
| Hobbsee | the mail going to me? yeah, i'm just waiting on canonical to allocate a mailing list, or however that works... | 03:00 |
| Hobbsee | ugh, great | 03:00 |
| mdke | loads of others do it like you too though, so to be fair, you are not alone | 03:01 |
| mdke | apparently there is a bug in the code for the kubuntu.org redirects which means that your email hasn't yet broken | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | way cool | 03:02 |
| mdke | anyway, spamassassin is the way to go for your spam needs | 03:02 |
| Hobbsee | i didnt know it was Very Bad to do, actually. it really does need fixing - of course that mask (the @ubuntu.com) is going to be the preferred | 03:02 |
| Hobbsee | i'm running imap mail | 03:03 |
| Hobbsee | and they dont use spamassassin on the server side :( | 03:03 |
| mdke | do you have shell access? you can install it. Otherwise you'll have to do it locally | 03:03 |
| Hobbsee | no | 03:03 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, exactly. once i figure out how to do that... | 03:03 |
| mdke | locally? | 03:03 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | thunderbird is set to trust the headers, but doesnt seem to actually obey them | 03:04 |
| mdke | you just install spamassassin then configure your client... | 03:04 |
| mdke | oh | 03:04 |
| mdke | sure SA is working? | 03:05 |
| Hobbsee | no | 03:05 |
| Hobbsee | if you could point me to a decent guide, i'd appreciate it | 03:05 |
| mdke | check the headers and see if they are being spammed up, I guess. Also check /etc/default/spamassassin to ensure it's enabled | 03:06 |
| === Hobbsee starts unbreaking | ||
| Hobbsee | right | 03:06 |
| Hobbsee | would have thought i'd have to tell it where my email was... | 03:07 |
| mdke | i don't believe so, if it's client side only | 03:08 |
| Hobbsee | right | 03:09 |
| Hobbsee | OK, team redirected to a new gmail address, whcih will forward to my main address :p | 03:10 |
| Hobbsee | which will hopefully catch the spam | 03:10 |
| mdke | good plan | 03:10 |
| === Hobbsee wishes this wasnt so buggy. | ||
| Hobbsee | <whine>it all went haywire when i switched it from pop3 gmail to imap </whine> | 03:10 |
| mdke | imap is great though | 03:11 |
| Hobbsee | it is! | 03:11 |
| Hobbsee | OK, so should i take the @ubuntu and @kubuntu emails out of the list, or just not leave them as the deafult? | 03:12 |
| mdke | the latter | 03:12 |
| mdke | I have no idea if it will update itself automatically, or if it will take a while | 03:12 |
| Hobbsee | right | 03:13 |
| Hobbsee | i think i broke launchpad for a while, trying that last time. | 03:13 |
| Hobbsee | as in, trying to change the deafult mail | 03:13 |
| Hobbsee | had half of the mail going to one place, half going to the other... | 03:13 |
| Hobbsee | now *that* was amusing. | 03:13 |
| Hobbsee | and annoying | 03:13 |
| Hobbsee | OK, i've switched it over, so hopefully it wont all blow up | 03:14 |
| mdke | difficult to tell, with bugmail broken and all :) | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | ah! so bugmail *is* broken? | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | i *thought* it was odd that i only got 1 bug report in 3 or so days... | 03:15 |
| mdke | since tuesday ish | 03:16 |
| Hobbsee | yup, that'd be about right | 03:16 |
| Hobbsee | mdke: you work for canonical, btw? | 03:16 |
| mdke | no | 03:16 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 03:17 |
| mdke | I turned from that path :) | 03:17 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:17 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh, so you did? | 03:17 |
| mdke | no | 03:17 |
| Hobbsee | oh right | 03:17 |
| === Hobbsee is just confused | ||
| mdke | I decided to sell my soul and be a lawyer | 03:17 |
| Hobbsee | ahhhh | 03:17 |
| Hobbsee | hrm ,new address hasnt been spammed yet. *grin* | 03:18 |
| Hobbsee | mdke: curious question here...if you're using imap - which client? | 03:20 |
| mdke | thunderbird :( | 03:20 |
| Hobbsee | but thunderbird sucks for imap | 03:20 |
| mdke | Hobbsee: not as badly as evolution | 03:20 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh...i was wondering about that... | 03:21 |
| Hobbsee | not as bad as kmail either - that keeps crashing on selecting a message :P | 03:21 |
| === Hobbsee seems to get the problem that only the inbox gets bolded, with new mail. the other folders dont. | ||
| mdke | in TB? | 03:22 |
| Hobbsee | yeah. beta1 | 03:22 |
| Hobbsee | could be a beta1 specific problem though | 03:23 |
| mdke | preferences, advanced, config editor, mail.check_all_imap_folders_for_new? | 03:23 |
| === Hobbsee hugs mdke | ||
| === Hobbsee wonders why that appears not to be set by default | ||
| mdke | I guess it requires a fair amount of time/bandwidth | 03:26 |
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| Hobbsee | true | 03:26 |
| Hobbsee | but still... | 03:26 |
| Hobbsee | ah well :) | 03:26 |
| Hobbsee | thanks very much for that :) | 03:26 |
| mdke | np | 03:27 |
| === Hobbsee might stop going mad :) | ||
| Hobbsee | well, maybe a little | 03:27 |
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| mhb | Hi all ... I wanted to know whether it is wise to start a new local group for every product in LP that's going to be translated by us ( jokosher-l10n-cs, upstart-l10n-cs etc ) | 09:19 |
| mdke | it's recommended to use the relevant ubuntu translation team. In theory though, it's possible for you to do that | 09:29 |
| mdke | mhb: ^ | 09:29 |
| mdke | I would have thought that upstart is best translated in Ubuntu anyway | 09:31 |
| mhb | mdke: I guess upstart is | 09:38 |
| mhb | mdke: but still, I don't want to pretend it's for Ubuntu translators only | 09:39 |
| mhb | mdke: Rosetta has the potential of becoming a good tool for smaller projects that have their translations stored on a VCS repository as a .po file, which is rather clumsy. | 09:45 |
| mhb | mdke: and for such projects there should be independent translation teams ... but I agree, upstart is currently linked with Ubuntu, that is logical | 09:46 |
| mdke | brb | 09:48 |
| mdke | mhb: yes, for established translation projects, the project groups should be used. for new ones, we recommend using the Ubuntu teams because the infrastructure is already in place and its easy | 10:11 |
| mdke | mhb: I suppose for an upstream project, you could have a single team for all languages... Not sure. | 10:11 |
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| mhb | mdke: well, but you can convince just one or few upstream translation teams to migrate to Rosetta, not every one | 10:13 |
| mhb | mdke: in a current upstream project | 10:14 |
| mdke | hmm. I think it's better for the project as a whole to migrate, rather than specific languages only | 10:14 |
| mdke | but yeah, it's possible. | 10:15 |
| mhb | mdke: but that's not feasible, I know how stubborn some people can be | 10:15 |
| mhb | mdke: and developers actually don't care much about translations | 10:15 |
| mdke | that doesn't matter, no one forces anyone to use Rosetta :) | 10:15 |
| mdke | they can use it if they like | 10:15 |
| mhb | mdke: yes, that's what I meant ... | 10:16 |
| mdke | no problem there | 10:16 |
| mhb | mdke: cool. thanks. | 10:17 |
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