[01:04] <joejaxx> Helloal
[01:04] <joejaxx> bah
[01:04] <joejaxx> Hello All
[01:05] <joejaxx> i was wondering whether help.u.c/community pages can be editted by individuals not on the ubuntu documentation team
[01:05] <crimsun> I remember this question, and I vaguely remember the answer being "yes"
[01:05] <joejaxx> oh ok
[01:06] <joejaxx> thank you crimsun
[01:06] <mdke> they are free to all to edit
[01:06] <mdke> it's a wiki
[01:07] <crimsun> mdke: out of curiosity, is your blog regarding open week & getting involved in -doc linked from [any site in]  the topic?
[01:07] <crimsun> (it saves me having to pull down that url each time someone asks)
[01:07] <mdke> crimsun: I don't think so
[01:08] <crimsun> it's a great perspective and intro, and it's worth displaying somewhere
[01:08] <mdke> I don't remember if the topic is locked or not
[01:09] <crimsun> doesn't appear to be.
[01:10] <tonyyarusso> nope
[01:12] <mdke> if someone has a friendly client, can they go ahead and add it?
[01:12] <tonyyarusso> URL?
[01:13] <tonyyarusso> wow we have a lot of urls in this topic...
[01:13] <crimsun> err, yeah, that's cut off
[01:13] <mdke> thanks
[01:13] <mdke> remove the lulu bit
[01:13] <tonyyarusso> only by three letters though
[01:17] <mdke> tanks
[01:17] <crimsun> np
[02:01] <ryanakca> nixternal: I've settled on writing a python script to automaticly move and reorganize the things for me...
[02:02] <ryanakca> I've been working on the bloody doc-linux-html thing for 2-3 hours now and I'm only about a third of the way done...
[02:33] <theCore> ryanakca: what are you trying to do?
[02:33] <ryanakca> organise doc-linux-html...
[02:33] <theCore> ryanakca: uh? why are you working with the html version?
[02:34] <ryanakca> to fix bugs 76312, 76313, 76315, 76320
[02:34] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 76312 in doc-linux "doc-linux-html includes files that automatically open pages online" [Medium,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/76312
[02:34] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 76313 in doc-linux "Distributions-HOWTO is generally broken" [Medium,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/76313
[02:34] <theCore> the HTML version is auto-generated, no?
[02:34] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 76315 in doc-linux "Some -HOWTOs have been removed" [Medium,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/76315
[02:34] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 76320 in doc-linux "doc-linux-html is messy and inconsistent" [Medium,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/76320
[02:34] <ryanakca> theCore: they're automaticly synced from Debian...
[02:35] <ryanakca> wich copies them from TLDP
[02:35] <theCore> hmm
[02:35] <theCore> wouldn't better to work directly with the SGML version?
[02:35] <theCore> wouldn't be*
[02:36] <theCore> as I remember the HTML version isn't the easiest thing to work with...
[02:37] <theCore> and your changes would need to be updated when they regenerate the docs
[02:39] <theCore> oh, I think they converting some of their docs to DocBook
[02:39] <theCore> that is neat
[02:43] <theCore> I wonder whether Yelp support SGML ...
[02:44] <mdke> i would think it probably does
[02:44] <theCore> nah... SGML documents are no longer supported. Please ask the author of the document to convert to XML.
[02:46] <theCore> hmm... SGML seems quite similar to DocBook
[02:47] <theCore> I don't think it would be hard to convert all the docs
[02:47] <theCore> just extremely painful to do manually
[04:30] <david_corrales> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=327868 just in case
[07:23] <robotgeek> hmm, i finally got some time. taking a look at docs now
[08:00] <nixternal> heh, bdmurray what's wrong with AMD 640bit :)
[08:00] <robotgeek> howdy nixternal
[08:00] <nixternal> games.xml is ready for review, and i think i finished another one as well, just can't remember what it was :)
[08:00] <nixternal> howdy robotgeek
[08:01] <robotgeek> i'll look into games.xml for you then
[08:01] <nixternal> might be the about-kubuntu.xml as well
[08:01] <nixternal> i will have to look at it again
[08:01] <nixternal> but that will eventually be absorbed into the ubiquity slideshow so i am sure it will change
[08:03] <nixternal> and on that note, im going to bed :)
[08:03] <nixternal> g'nite robotgeek
[08:03] <nixternal> g'nite everyone else who just happens to be reading ;p
[08:03] <robotgeek> night nixternal
[02:29] <mdke> hi linuxphotogeek, all well with your svn access?
[02:35] <linuxphotogeek> mdke: no. Haven't  heard a word
[02:35] <linuxphotogeek> assume they will email me?
[02:36] <mdke> linuxphotogeek: I'm told they did
[02:36] <linuxphotogeek> checking spam
[02:36] <mdke> this is you, right? https://launchpad.net/people/linux.photo.geek
[02:37] <mdke> it was likely from james.troup@(ubuntu|canonical).com
[02:38] <linuxphotogeek> found it in the spam
[02:38] <linuxphotogeek> bad spam filter
[02:38] <mdke> heh
[02:38] <mdke> you're going to have to merge your changes with those made by bdmurray yesterday
[02:39] <mdke> (to the same file)
[02:40] <linuxphotogeek> what do that mean? is there a simple way to do that without re editing the file in my tree?
[02:40] <linuxphotogeek> Still learning svn
[02:40] <mdke> I don't know of one. I think what you need to do is to delete the file, svn up it from the server, then try and apply your patch to the new file
[02:40] <mdke> if that makes sense
[02:41] <mdke> probably there is a clever way to merge em, but I never read up
[02:42] <linuxphotogeek> thanks - the changes are trivial so no problem.
[02:43] <linuxphotogeek> I'm looking at scanner doc and question how to structure printing.xml
[02:43] <mdke> great.
[02:44] <mdke> I'm happy to have two new people on board :)
[02:44] <linuxphotogeek> Right now printing is an <article> should I change it to a <chapter>?
[02:44] <linuxphotogeek> and add scanning as a <section>
[02:45] <mdke> it can't be a chapter, because there is nothing for it to be a chapter of :) as a top level topic, it has to either be an <article> or a <book>
[02:45] <mdke> let's leave it as an <article> and add scanning as a new section
[02:46] <linuxphotogeek> there is no sections in the article now so this will be the first
[02:47] <mdke> eh?
[02:47] <mdke> there should be three, iirc
[02:47] <linuxphotogeek> I'm taking https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo massaging it
[02:48] <mdke> there are three sections in printing.xml
[02:48] <linuxphotogeek> opps! your right
[02:49] <linuxphotogeek> I don't see how scanning will fit as a forth section after local, network and testing a printer
[02:50] <linuxphotogeek> again seem so unrelated
[02:50] <mdke> we might have to restructure a bit. Maybe have three sections, Printers, Faxing, Scanning or something, then have subsections of those
[02:50] <linuxphotogeek> ah! more like what I was thinking
[02:51] <linuxphotogeek> does this become a chapter then?
[02:51] <mdke> no, still an article :)
[02:51] <mdke> well, actually, it doesn't really make any difference
[02:52] <linuxphotogeek> don't know
[02:52] <mdke> for now, let's keep it an article
[02:52] <linuxphotogeek> Let's leave as article and
[02:53] <linuxphotogeek> restructure into three sections like above
[02:53] <linuxphotogeek> ok?
[02:53] <mdke> yeah, sure thing
[09:03] <nixternal> http://tinyurl.com/yda633
[09:03] <nixternal> and now people know why i get all of the wiki posts sent to me
[09:05] <nixternal> there needs to be a limiter setup with the wiki to prevent that kind of stuff. this is like the 3rd time i have seen this
[09:25] <mdke> haha
[09:25] <mdke> sweet
[10:35] <luis> algun manual de ubuntu 6.10 en espaol
[10:35] <mdke> luis: https://help.ubuntu.com
[10:36] <david_corrales> s, pero esos estn en ingls
[10:36] <david_corrales> deme un toque y busco los que estn en espaol
[10:36] <mdke> david_corrales: well, that depends on your browser
[10:36] <mdke> https://help.ubuntu.com/index.html.es
[10:36] <david_corrales> oh
[10:37] <david_corrales> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/es/index.html
[10:37] <david_corrales> I use my main install in english
[11:04] <luis> gracias
[11:04] <david_corrales> claro
[11:05] <luis> David_corrales de donde eres
[11:05] <david_corrales> de Costa Rica
[11:05] <david_corrales> :)
[11:05] <david_corrales> ud?
[11:06] <luis> argentina
[11:06] <luis> usas ubuntu
[11:06] <david_corrales> as es, desde breezy estoy con ubuntu
[11:06] <david_corrales> yo estuve en Argentina en el 2003
[11:06] <david_corrales> como un mes y algo
[11:07] <luis> por trabajo
[11:07] <david_corrales> nah, fui a conocer a unos amigos por internet
[11:07] <david_corrales> andaba de paseo
[11:07] <david_corrales> :D
[11:08] <david_corrales> mdke: :)
[11:08] <luis> sabes programacion php
[11:09] <luis> apache mysql
[11:09] <david_corrales> algo... me toc programar en LAMP un par de cursos
[11:09] <luis> tenes hotmail para agregarte a mis contacto po las dudas
[11:09] <luis> si queres no ha problema
[11:09] <nixternal> hrmm, this reminds me of my hood, i can understand most of it :)
[11:10] <luis> espera
[11:10] <david_corrales> y ac por irc?
[11:10] <david_corrales> siempre ando en #jokosher
[11:11] <luis> lo estoy buscando a ese canal no lo encuentro
[11:11] <david_corrales> luis: /join #jokosher
[11:45] <robotgeek> hmm, cleaned up the vmware article for servers
[11:46] <mdke> nice!
[11:48] <robotgeek> the latest one worked out of the box for me
[11:49] <robotgeek> hmm, maybe i should also elaborate on how to actually install Ubuntu/other linux OS somewhere there