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tsmithe@lart theCore 12:40
tsmithei bet they're turned off12:40
tsmitheyup12:40
tsmithebye12:40
theCore*sigh*...12:40
tsmithehey theCore if they were on, they don't protect you here12:44
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crimsunwelp, there's my REVU run. 3 packages uploaded.04:11
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=== enyc meeps ;-)
=== enyc wonders who is about that enyc discussed qpsmtpd fixes with
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gpocentekhello10:12
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enycSomebody please tell me if i have bade any errrors in my MOTU-SRU requeost as I have not done this before. -- 12:17
enychttps://launchpad.net/bugs/7748512:17
UbugtuMalone bug 77485 in qpsmtpd "SRU request: edgy:qpsmtpd fix for bug #72602" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  12:17
Hobbseeenyc: should be edgy-proposed12:19
Hobbseeand (0.32-3ubuntu0.1~proposed1) 12:20
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Hobbseeenyc: other than that it looks right12:20
Hobbseeenyc: likely on holidays12:20
enycHobbsee: oh right... so how do I fix this now i have created all that patch/report ?12:20
Hobbseeenyc: you can edit that patch directly - ie, that one line +qpsmtpd (0.32-3ubuntu1) edgy; urgency=low12:21
enycHobbsee: right yes12:21
Hobbseeas long as you dont change the line numbering or anythying, you can just change it12:21
enycHobbsee: bah.. i didnt see this on the MOTU-SRU wiki page!12:23
Hobbseeenyc: they only recently changed the versioning.  and the -proposed is there12:23
enycHobbsee: ok well... how did you come to the "ubuntu0.1~proposed1" ?12:23
Hobbseefrom filing a sru request a while ago12:26
enycHobbsee: bah!12:26
Hobbseeheh12:27
Hobbseei know :P12:27
=== enyc wonders how enyc supposed to work this out
Hobbseemagic.  and they tell you, i think12:27
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Hobbseesame as current standards versions, etc12:27
enyc??current standards versions??12:27
Hobbsee(when you do new packages, it asks you for the standard version)12:28
Hobbsees/standard/standards/12:28
enyc?it?12:28
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Hobbseedont worry12:30
Hobbseeit's just another thing that's not well documented12:30
enycwell you said that 'it' asks for the standard(s)-version...  but I dont know what "it" is12:30
Hobbseeoh right.  debian/control in the source package (for new ones)12:31
enychrrm well this isnt a new package!12:32
enycbah12:32
Hobbseei know :)12:32
Hobbseei saw i confused you, sorry ;)12:32
Hobbsee* :(12:32
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enycright well where is this new proposed versioning actuall documented... is there a standards page somewhere?12:33
Hobbseeit's documented on other SRU requests.   i know that's not helpful12:33
Hobbseeactually...12:34
Hobbsee!sru12:34
ubotuStable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates for main and restricted, while https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU is for universe and multiverse.12:34
Hobbseeit's documented on the main one, adn they decided to do it for universe too12:34
HobbseeOK, maybe it isnt12:35
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Q-FUNKhowdy!12:40
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enycHobbsee: bah!!!12:40
Hobbseehey Q-FUNK 12:40
enycHobbsee: well am i better to wait for the team to reply?12:41
Hobbseeenyc: indeed.  then trust me. :P12:41
Hobbseeno.12:41
Hobbseethey'll tell you what i just did :P12:41
Q-FUNKcan anybody remember of any ./configure option to tell a package not to build its *.la files?12:41
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MehdiHassanpourhey all12:41
gpocentekQ-FUNK: you can rm -f the .la files after the build ;)12:42
enycHobbsee: [ok] 12:42
MehdiHassanpourI need some help for developing an ubuntu repository cd12:42
Hobbseegpocentek: i was wondering if that was the case :P12:42
gpocentekHobbsee: it depends, sometimes the .la are needed, but e remove them for all the Xfce panel plugins for instance12:43
gpocenteks/but e/but we12:43
Hobbseegpocentek: iirc they removed all of them in ubuntu?  maybe i'm imagining things12:44
enycHobbsee: are you sure this looks correct: qpsmtpd (0.32-3ubuntu0.1~proposed1) edgy-proposed; urgency=low12:44
Hobbseeenyc: pretty sure, yep12:45
gpocentekHobbsee: I don't think they are all removed12:45
Hobbseegpocentek: hmm, okay12:45
enycHobbsee: well where can I see other recent motu-sru 's ?12:46
Hobbseegpocentek: it's something i heard on irc a long time ago.  may have been talk by a non-dev, not sure12:46
Hobbseeenyc: check bugs motu-sru are subscribed for12:46
Hobbsees/for/to/12:46
MehdiHassanpoursorry, I need packages from an Ubuntu repo CD to be copied and stored in /var/cache/apt/archives.... is this possible ?12:47
HobbseeMehdiHassanpour: as in, you're making a repo CD, or you've got one, and are trying to add it12:47
geserthe removal of .la files is an ongoing process but not finished yet (afaik)12:47
neutrinomasssudo apt-get install pdftohtml fails with pdftohtml: Depends: poppler-utils (>= 0.4.5-1) . 0.5.4-0ubuntu4 is in the repos and dpkg --compare-versions agrees that 0.4.5-1 is le 0.5.4-0ubuntu412:48
geseryou must remove them in the correct order else other packages don't build anymore12:48
enycHobbsee: hrrm I can see howto search field.assignee but not sure about subscribed12:48
geserenyc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/people/motu-sru/+subscribedbugs12:49
MehdiHassanpourHobbsee: I've created a DVD and now want to create a CD12:49
Hobbseethanks geser 12:49
MehdiHassanpourHobbsee: Is it possible to set apt to store packages from a repo cd on hdd ?12:50
HobbseeMehdiHassanpour: with apt-cdrom add....12:50
Hobbseedvd and cd should be almost the same12:51
MehdiHassanpourHobbsee: it just reads from cd and installs packages12:51
geserneutrinomass: popplerutils Conflicts: xpdf-utils, pdftohtml12:51
Hobbseeapt-cdrom add should do that fine12:51
Hobbsee(on hte user's system)12:52
MehdiHassanpourHobbsee: apt-cdrom add , adds the repo cd to sources and installs packages well12:53
neutrinomassgeser: Ah, I see. It's there only for upgrade purposes (dummy package). Thanks12:53
MehdiHassanpourit reads packages from cd and installs them12:53
MehdiHassanpourbut I need this packages downloaded or copied to archives folder12:53
HobbseeMehdiHassanpour: yes.  check man apt-cdrom12:53
Hobbsee(assuming you've got your repositories set up correctly)12:54
=== Hobbsee is *sure* there is documentation on this
enycHobbsee: hrrm so you have reducted the ubuntu? number then added .1~propesed1  ...12:57
fdovingMehdiHassanpour: you might want 'apt-zip'12:57
enycHobbsee: another bug doesnt seem to have reduced the number... but maybe I am misreading something12:57
MehdiHassanpoureven with apt-get -d install package-name it does JUST read from CD and does NOT copy packagges on my archives folder12:57
Hobbseeenyc: well, -2 goes to -2ubuntu1 when it gets merged.  so you need to use -2ubuntu0.1 so it doesnt conflict with the next version of ubuntu.  the ~proposed1 is in case there need to be multiple proposed updates, and so that it doesnt conflict with the -updates version12:58
MehdiHassanpourfdoving: what does apt-zip do ?12:58
fdovingMehdiHassanpour: maybe you can use the copy protocol for in sources.list too.12:58
fdovingMehdiHassanpour: apt-cache show apt-zip12:58
MehdiHassanpourMy story is I wanna create a selective repo cd from a repo dvd12:59
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MehdiHassanpourso I wanted to install packages I needed from that DVD and them create a cd from new repo01:00
enycHobbsee: hrrm... so the update versions 'increase' therefore01:01
Hobbseeenyc: iirc, yes01:01
Hobbseeenyc: 01:03
Hobbseesarah@sarah:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 0.1~proposed1 lt 0.1 && echo true01:03
Hobbseetrue01:03
enycHobbsee: coo.. so ~ has a special meaning ?01:08
=== Hobbsee wonders if that's based on strings
Hobbseeas in, which string is greater than another string01:09
Hobbseeenyc: it's to do with the way string comparisons are done - with all programming01:09
enycHobbsee: cooo ... what is 'all programming' ?01:14
Hobbseeenyc: as in, all coding language, c++, python, etc01:16
neutrinomassHobbsee: bug 77490 ? (only if you are not too busy )01:17
UbugtuMalone bug 77490 in openalpp-cvs "Unmet deps (feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7749001:17
Hobbseeneutrinomass: consider it done01:18
neutrinomassHobbsee: cool, thanks :)01:18
enycHobbsee: anyway I uploaded the new debdiff... bah... hope I get used to this sort of thing in future01:20
Hobbseeenyc: you will :)01:20
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Hobbseeneutrinomass: now really consider it done :)01:24
imbrandonmoins all01:25
neutrinomassHobbsee: I didn't doubt it for a second :p01:25
Hobbsee:)01:25
Hobbseehey imbrandon 01:25
imbrandonheya01:25
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StevenKsiretart: I'm filing a sync request for vdk2, just so you know.01:55
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bddebianHeya gang05:44
cypherbiosbddebian: heya!05:46
bddebianHello cypherbios05:48
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sistpotyhi folks05:59
bddebianHeya sistpoty05:59
sistpotyhi bddebian05:59
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ganohi all07:25
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siretartStevenK: oh, perfect! :)08:39
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rexbronhello11:10
rexbronlintan warns of a config.status file, but the file is in the original tar ball11:10
rexbronshould I remove it?11:10
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siretartrexbron: tell your upstream to not do that in the next release11:12
rexbronsiretart: should I still remove it?11:13
Q-FUNKsloppy upstreams. *sigh*11:14
imbrandonajmitch, ping11:15
imbrandonajmitch, have you ever used thte vmx XEN stuff ?11:15
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siretartrexbron: I don't think its worth the efford to repackage to tarball for that change only. if there are other changes as well to do, then remove it. otherwise, leave it11:17
rexbronsiretart: ok thanks11:20
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bddebianHeya gang11:45
crimsunanyone reviewing gandalfn's compiz source package on revu? [http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3875 ] 11:53
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crimsunrexbron: does your murrine source package on revu intentionally not enable animations, etc.?11:58
rexbronno, I will enable that11:58
rexbronthe original packager did not and I for got to check11:59
crimsunwell, it's your decision11:59
bddebiancrimsun: No I've been shying away from it becuase I didn't know all the issue (if there even are any)12:00
rexbroncrimsun: do you think it should be?12:01
crimsunrexbron: my local packages had it enabled12:02
crimsunrexbron: you'd need to make a "best guess" (sane, of course) for the common user12:02
crimsunbddebian: ok12:02
rexbronc12:02
rexbroncrimsun: I would think it should be enabled12:03
crimsunsure, then you'll need the cdbs configure bit12:03
rexbronok12:03
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bddebiancrimsun: BTW, thanks for libparagui!12:06
rexbroncrimsun: ok found it and am going to add it12:06
crimsunbddebian: np12:06
bddebianAck so many packages...12:07
bddebianAnd I don't want to touch any emacs packages :-(12:10
rexbroncrimsun: general comment?12:11

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