[12:40] <tsmithe> @lart theCore 
[12:40] <tsmithe> i bet they're turned off
[12:40] <tsmithe> yup
[12:40] <tsmithe> bye
[12:40] <theCore> *sigh*...
[12:44] <tsmithe> hey theCore if they were on, they don't protect you here
[04:11] <crimsun> welp, there's my REVU run. 3 packages uploaded.
[10:12] <gpocentek> hello
[12:17] <enyc> Somebody please tell me if i have bade any errrors in my MOTU-SRU requeost as I have not done this before. -- 
[12:17] <enyc> https://launchpad.net/bugs/77485
[12:17] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 77485 in qpsmtpd "SRU request: edgy:qpsmtpd fix for bug #72602" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  
[12:19] <Hobbsee> enyc: should be edgy-proposed
[12:20] <Hobbsee> and (0.32-3ubuntu0.1~proposed1) 
[12:20] <Hobbsee> enyc: other than that it looks right
[12:20] <Hobbsee> enyc: likely on holidays
[12:20] <enyc> Hobbsee: oh right... so how do I fix this now i have created all that patch/report ?
[12:21] <Hobbsee> enyc: you can edit that patch directly - ie, that one line +qpsmtpd (0.32-3ubuntu1) edgy; urgency=low
[12:21] <enyc> Hobbsee: right yes
[12:21] <Hobbsee> as long as you dont change the line numbering or anythying, you can just change it
[12:23] <enyc> Hobbsee: bah.. i didnt see this on the MOTU-SRU wiki page!
[12:23] <Hobbsee> enyc: they only recently changed the versioning.  and the -proposed is there
[12:23] <enyc> Hobbsee: ok well... how did you come to the "ubuntu0.1~proposed1" ?
[12:26] <Hobbsee> from filing a sru request a while ago
[12:26] <enyc> Hobbsee: bah!
[12:27] <Hobbsee> heh
[12:27] <Hobbsee> i know :P
[12:27] <Hobbsee> magic.  and they tell you, i think
[12:27] <Hobbsee> same as current standards versions, etc
[12:27] <enyc> ??current standards versions??
[12:28] <Hobbsee> (when you do new packages, it asks you for the standard version)
[12:28] <Hobbsee> s/standard/standards/
[12:28] <enyc> ?it?
[12:30] <Hobbsee> dont worry
[12:30] <Hobbsee> it's just another thing that's not well documented
[12:30] <enyc> well you said that 'it' asks for the standard(s)-version...  but I dont know what "it" is
[12:31] <Hobbsee> oh right.  debian/control in the source package (for new ones)
[12:32] <enyc> hrrm well this isnt a new package!
[12:32] <enyc> bah
[12:32] <Hobbsee> i know :)
[12:32] <Hobbsee> i saw i confused you, sorry ;)
[12:32] <Hobbsee> * :(
[12:33] <enyc> right well where is this new proposed versioning actuall documented... is there a standards page somewhere?
[12:33] <Hobbsee> it's documented on other SRU requests.   i know that's not helpful
[12:34] <Hobbsee> actually...
[12:34] <Hobbsee> !sru
[12:34] <ubotu> Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates for main and restricted, while https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU is for universe and multiverse.
[12:34] <Hobbsee> it's documented on the main one, adn they decided to do it for universe too
[12:35] <Hobbsee> OK, maybe it isnt
[12:40] <Q-FUNK> howdy!
[12:40] <enyc> Hobbsee: bah!!!
[12:40] <Hobbsee> hey Q-FUNK 
[12:41] <enyc> Hobbsee: well am i better to wait for the team to reply?
[12:41] <Hobbsee> enyc: indeed.  then trust me. :P
[12:41] <Hobbsee> no.
[12:41] <Hobbsee> they'll tell you what i just did :P
[12:41] <Q-FUNK> can anybody remember of any ./configure option to tell a package not to build its *.la files?
[12:41] <MehdiHassanpour> hey all
[12:42] <gpocentek> Q-FUNK: you can rm -f the .la files after the build ;)
[12:42] <enyc> Hobbsee: [ok] 
[12:42] <MehdiHassanpour> I need some help for developing an ubuntu repository cd
[12:42] <Hobbsee> gpocentek: i was wondering if that was the case :P
[12:43] <gpocentek> Hobbsee: it depends, sometimes the .la are needed, but e remove them for all the Xfce panel plugins for instance
[12:43] <gpocentek> s/but e/but we
[12:44] <Hobbsee> gpocentek: iirc they removed all of them in ubuntu?  maybe i'm imagining things
[12:44] <enyc> Hobbsee: are you sure this looks correct: qpsmtpd (0.32-3ubuntu0.1~proposed1) edgy-proposed; urgency=low
[12:45] <Hobbsee> enyc: pretty sure, yep
[12:45] <gpocentek> Hobbsee: I don't think they are all removed
[12:45] <Hobbsee> gpocentek: hmm, okay
[12:46] <enyc> Hobbsee: well where can I see other recent motu-sru 's ?
[12:46] <Hobbsee> gpocentek: it's something i heard on irc a long time ago.  may have been talk by a non-dev, not sure
[12:46] <Hobbsee> enyc: check bugs motu-sru are subscribed for
[12:46] <Hobbsee> s/for/to/
[12:47] <MehdiHassanpour> sorry, I need packages from an Ubuntu repo CD to be copied and stored in /var/cache/apt/archives.... is this possible ?
[12:47] <Hobbsee> MehdiHassanpour: as in, you're making a repo CD, or you've got one, and are trying to add it
[12:47] <geser> the removal of .la files is an ongoing process but not finished yet (afaik)
[12:48] <neutrinomass> sudo apt-get install pdftohtml fails with pdftohtml: Depends: poppler-utils (>= 0.4.5-1) . 0.5.4-0ubuntu4 is in the repos and dpkg --compare-versions agrees that 0.4.5-1 is le 0.5.4-0ubuntu4
[12:48] <geser> you must remove them in the correct order else other packages don't build anymore
[12:48] <enyc> Hobbsee: hrrm I can see howto search field.assignee but not sure about subscribed
[12:49] <geser> enyc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/people/motu-sru/+subscribedbugs
[12:49] <MehdiHassanpour> Hobbsee: I've created a DVD and now want to create a CD
[12:49] <Hobbsee> thanks geser 
[12:50] <MehdiHassanpour> Hobbsee: Is it possible to set apt to store packages from a repo cd on hdd ?
[12:50] <Hobbsee> MehdiHassanpour: with apt-cdrom add....
[12:51] <Hobbsee> dvd and cd should be almost the same
[12:51] <MehdiHassanpour> Hobbsee: it just reads from cd and installs packages
[12:51] <geser> neutrinomass: popplerutils Conflicts: xpdf-utils, pdftohtml
[12:51] <Hobbsee> apt-cdrom add should do that fine
[12:52] <Hobbsee> (on hte user's system)
[12:53] <MehdiHassanpour> Hobbsee: apt-cdrom add , adds the repo cd to sources and installs packages well
[12:53] <neutrinomass> geser: Ah, I see. It's there only for upgrade purposes (dummy package). Thanks
[12:53] <MehdiHassanpour> it reads packages from cd and installs them
[12:53] <MehdiHassanpour> but I need this packages downloaded or copied to archives folder
[12:53] <Hobbsee> MehdiHassanpour: yes.  check man apt-cdrom
[12:54] <Hobbsee> (assuming you've got your repositories set up correctly)
[12:57] <enyc> Hobbsee: hrrm so you have reducted the ubuntu? number then added .1~propesed1  ...
[12:57] <fdoving> MehdiHassanpour: you might want 'apt-zip'
[12:57] <enyc> Hobbsee: another bug doesnt seem to have reduced the number... but maybe I am misreading something
[12:57] <MehdiHassanpour> even with apt-get -d install package-name it does JUST read from CD and does NOT copy packagges on my archives folder
[12:58] <Hobbsee> enyc: well, -2 goes to -2ubuntu1 when it gets merged.  so you need to use -2ubuntu0.1 so it doesnt conflict with the next version of ubuntu.  the ~proposed1 is in case there need to be multiple proposed updates, and so that it doesnt conflict with the -updates version
[12:58] <MehdiHassanpour> fdoving: what does apt-zip do ?
[12:58] <fdoving> MehdiHassanpour: maybe you can use the copy protocol for in sources.list too.
[12:58] <fdoving> MehdiHassanpour: apt-cache show apt-zip
[12:59] <MehdiHassanpour> My story is I wanna create a selective repo cd from a repo dvd
[01:00] <MehdiHassanpour> so I wanted to install packages I needed from that DVD and them create a cd from new repo
[01:01] <enyc> Hobbsee: hrrm... so the update versions 'increase' therefore
[01:01] <Hobbsee> enyc: iirc, yes
[01:03] <Hobbsee> enyc: 
[01:03] <Hobbsee> sarah@sarah:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 0.1~proposed1 lt 0.1 && echo true
[01:03] <Hobbsee> true
[01:08] <enyc> Hobbsee: coo.. so ~ has a special meaning ?
[01:09] <Hobbsee> as in, which string is greater than another string
[01:09] <Hobbsee> enyc: it's to do with the way string comparisons are done - with all programming
[01:14] <enyc> Hobbsee: cooo ... what is 'all programming' ?
[01:16] <Hobbsee> enyc: as in, all coding language, c++, python, etc
[01:17] <neutrinomass> Hobbsee: bug 77490 ? (only if you are not too busy )
[01:17] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 77490 in openalpp-cvs "Unmet deps (feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/77490
[01:18] <Hobbsee> neutrinomass: consider it done
[01:18] <neutrinomass> Hobbsee: cool, thanks :)
[01:20] <enyc> Hobbsee: anyway I uploaded the new debdiff... bah... hope I get used to this sort of thing in future
[01:20] <Hobbsee> enyc: you will :)
[01:24] <Hobbsee> neutrinomass: now really consider it done :)
[01:25] <imbrandon> moins all
[01:25] <neutrinomass> Hobbsee: I didn't doubt it for a second :p
[01:25] <Hobbsee> :)
[01:25] <Hobbsee> hey imbrandon 
[01:25] <imbrandon> heya
[01:55] <StevenK> siretart: I'm filing a sync request for vdk2, just so you know.
[05:44] <bddebian> Heya gang
[05:46] <cypherbios> bddebian: heya!
[05:48] <bddebian> Hello cypherbios
[05:59] <sistpoty> hi folks
[05:59] <bddebian> Heya sistpoty
[05:59] <sistpoty> hi bddebian
[07:25] <gano> hi all
[08:39] <siretart> StevenK: oh, perfect! :)
[11:10] <rexbron> hello
[11:10] <rexbron> lintan warns of a config.status file, but the file is in the original tar ball
[11:10] <rexbron> should I remove it?
[11:12] <siretart> rexbron: tell your upstream to not do that in the next release
[11:13] <rexbron> siretart: should I still remove it?
[11:14] <Q-FUNK> sloppy upstreams. *sigh*
[11:15] <imbrandon> ajmitch, ping
[11:15] <imbrandon> ajmitch, have you ever used thte vmx XEN stuff ?
[11:17] <siretart> rexbron: I don't think its worth the efford to repackage to tarball for that change only. if there are other changes as well to do, then remove it. otherwise, leave it
[11:20] <rexbron> siretart: ok thanks
[11:45] <bddebian> Heya gang
[11:53] <crimsun> anyone reviewing gandalfn's compiz source package on revu? [http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3875 ] 
[11:58] <crimsun> rexbron: does your murrine source package on revu intentionally not enable animations, etc.?
[11:58] <rexbron> no, I will enable that
[11:59] <rexbron> the original packager did not and I for got to check
[11:59] <crimsun> well, it's your decision
[12:00] <bddebian> crimsun: No I've been shying away from it becuase I didn't know all the issue (if there even are any)
[12:01] <rexbron> crimsun: do you think it should be?
[12:02] <crimsun> rexbron: my local packages had it enabled
[12:02] <crimsun> rexbron: you'd need to make a "best guess" (sane, of course) for the common user
[12:02] <crimsun> bddebian: ok
[12:02] <rexbron> c
[12:03] <rexbron> crimsun: I would think it should be enabled
[12:03] <crimsun> sure, then you'll need the cdbs configure bit
[12:03] <rexbron> ok
[12:06] <bddebian> crimsun: BTW, thanks for libparagui!
[12:06] <rexbron> crimsun: ok found it and am going to add it
[12:06] <crimsun> bddebian: np
[12:07] <bddebian> Ack so many packages...
[12:10] <bddebian> And I don't want to touch any emacs packages :-(
[12:11] <rexbron> crimsun: general comment?