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smaxhi12:13
smaxhow can i get C libraries12:13
DaSkreechHello12:13
smaxfor C programming12:13
harrisony1!hi | DaSkreech12:13
ubotuDaSkreech: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!12:13
smaxand C++12:13
DaSkreechapt-get libc6-dev AFAIR12:13
intelikeydraik grub gives a 'albeit very simple' command prompt that you can work from.12:13
felipe__DaSkreech: Ok I killed all adept process12:13
robotgeeksmax: sudo apt-get install build-essential12:13
harrisony1!clibaries12:13
draikI am in the GRUB CLI12:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about clibaries - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:13
DaSkreechfelipe__: all right try the sudo dpkg -a --configure12:14
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felipe__DaSkreech: Nothing happens...not even feedback from the konsole12:14
intelikeydraik if i used or even could use grub i'd try to walk you through it.   but as it is you'll have to ask someone else for specifics.12:14
DaSkreechDoes it return you back to the command or is it doing something?12:15
SpiffymanNon-critical question: My right alt-key is unresponsive, though my left one works. The fixes I've found on the forums seem to be GNOME specific. Any suggestions?12:15
felipe__DaSkreech: Back to the command line12:15
DaSkreechfelipe__: reaaly? :)12:15
felipe__DaSkreech: yeah :(12:15
DaSkreechfelipe__: OK try apt-get install <sun-javapackagename_I_Don't_recall>12:16
DaSkreechSudo of course12:16
harrisony1!java12:16
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository12:16
harrisony1felipe__: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre12:16
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Schuenemannwhich java are you trying to install?12:16
Schuenemannif it's 6, prepare to suffer12:16
DaSkreechsun-java5-jre12:16
intelikeySpiffyman i doubt that it is "unresponsive"   it is not the same as left alt but it does work.    example;  in console do  openvt -fc 24  then hit [right alt] +[f12]    :)12:16
DaSkreechBlast12:16
DaSkreechSchuenemann: How so?12:17
felipe__DaSkreech: Now its working im installing the sun-java5-jr5 right now12:17
SchuenemannDaSkreech: all those update-alternatives --install are really boring12:17
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DaSkreechYeah. Hopefully GPL will get rid of that12:17
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DaSkreechThough a better made package would take of *12:17
harrisony1ubotu: you there12:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about you there - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:18
Schuenemanncan you tell me what is the syntax?12:18
Schuenemannharrisony1: he's a bot12:18
harrisony1oh wrong person12:18
harrisony1rofl12:18
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DaSkreechGreat12:19
DaSkreechWhere does OO.o store it's temporary files?12:20
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intelikeySpiffyman in linux each key is different although some things accept right_alt the same as left_alt    or r_ctrl  same as l_ctrl   the actual signal is different by default.    if that answers your Q.12:20
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SpiffymanIt does. How do I change that? :P12:20
SpiffymanIncidentally, openvt -fc 24 yielded the following:12:21
Schuenemann!xev12:21
ubotuxev: X client - xev. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 68 kB12:21
SpiffymanCouldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console12:21
SpiffymanCould not get a file descriptor referring to the console12:21
DaSkreechArgh!!12:21
Bubba_Gumpi have closed ktorrent yet firestarter says i am receiving UDP packets from BitTorrent. Any reason for this?12:21
intelikeySpiffyman i said in a console.  not in a terminal.12:21
LeeJunFanBubba_Gump: you sure it's closed and not just in the task tray?12:22
Bubba_Gumpyeah, ktorrent closed12:22
LeeJunFanBubba_Gump: plus the trackers may still have you listed so it will take some time for them to stop checking you for what you WERE offering.12:22
intelikeybut at any rate you want key binding information.  your search for it will probably be faster than mine.12:22
Schuenemanntry "xev"12:22
Schuenemannto find key codes12:22
Bubba_Gumpahh i see :)12:23
Bubba_Gumpthanks :)12:23
SpiffymanHmmm, apparently I don't know the difference between consoles and terminals.12:23
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DaSkreechSpiffyman: terminals are M-^[1-6] 12:24
SpiffymanThanks to both of you. I'll look around. I found a screen in System Settings where I can view key-bindings, but I hadn't been able to change them.12:24
felipe__DaSkreech: where can I find sun-java5-plugin_1.5.0-06-1_i386.deb12:24
felipe__?12:24
Schuenemannwhat is key-binding?12:24
intelikeySpiffyman the linux console can be reached by pressing  L_ctrl+L_alt+f1   actually f1 through f6  for tty1 through tty6  which are active by default.    X is running in tty7 by default.    L_alt+f7 to get back to X12:26
Schuenemannfelipe__: why do you need that?12:26
DaSkreechfelipe__: you can apt-get it12:26
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fanaeo?12:27
fanaagur jende12:27
DaSkreechintelikey: Actaully Ican RM-R^+3 and jump to the third terminal12:27
DaSkreechfana: Portugese?12:27
fanaspanish12:28
intelikeykonsole is a linux terminal application     konsole != console     konsole = xterm = aterm = eterm = rxvt = gnome-terminal    roughly speeking.12:28
DaSkreech!es | fana12:28
ubotufana: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:28
fanaok tanks12:28
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felipe__DaSkreech: E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-plugin_1.5.0-06-1_i386.deb12:28
DaSkreechfana: Muchas Gracias :)12:28
SpiffymanThanks. I see now. However, after openvt -fc 24, [right alt] +[F12]  did nothing.12:28
DaSkreechfelipe__: Just use sun-java5-plugin12:28
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LeeJunFan!info sun-java5-plugin12:29
DaSkreechDoes anyone know if OO.o stores a backup of the files it opens?12:29
ubotusun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB12:29
LeeJunFanhehe, oops. My konversation stopped scrolling. hehe12:29
Schuenemannkonversation gets really slow as the channel text grows12:30
felipe__DaSkreech: Thanks, everything working now :)12:30
DaSkreech:-)12:30
DaSkreechanyone?12:31
LeeJunFanSchuenemann: well, my problem was that my scrollbar had been moved so I was looking at old messages.12:31
intelikeySpiffyman hmmm works here.    but at any rate, tty's 1-12 can be reached with left_alt+f#  while tty's 13-24 can be reached with right_alt+f#   or one can step through them with left_alt+left{or}right_arrow     not that you will be using consoles anyway.12:31
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SpiffymanGreat, thank you very much. I think for now I'll leave the right alt the way it is. It's probably better for me to get used to just using the left alt and leave right alt for the future - if I do end up needing/wanting to use consoles.12:32
cntbLeeJunFan: importantthing you haveppl to share12:32
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DaSkreechintelikey: I can reach 1 with right al12:33
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DaSkreechalt12:33
intelikeythe linux console is not the point.  the fact that left and right alt keys do different things is.12:33
eldaryHola12:33
BluesKajHowdy, I lost my scrns after trying to resetup direct rendering with my ATI card12:33
intelikeyDaSkreech from console ?12:33
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DaSkreechintelikey: Nope from X12:33
Schuenemannintelikey: you want to remap a key?12:35
intelikeyDaSkreech yes in X the key-binding is different.  it's first set by xkb  then again by kde specific bindings....  no telling what kde has it set to.12:35
intelikeySchuenemann no Spiffyman did.12:35
DaSkreechintelikey: Ahh lucsiously convoluted12:35
Schuenemanndid he accomplish it?12:35
intelikeyscroll up and read his last post.12:35
intelikeyshort answer    he dropped it.12:36
SchuenemannI see12:36
SpiffymanYeah. :)12:36
Schuenemannwell, he could've tried this: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id255276812:36
Schuenemannyou can use xmodmap12:37
BluesKajI'm in the shell using irssi. startx gives this message : fatal IO error 104 on X server ":0.0"12:37
SpiffymanI'll look into mapping just in case.12:37
SpiffymanI'm sure I'll find it handy at some point. I'm a recent convert from Windows, so I'm enjoying looking at things even if I don't need them.12:37
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DaSkreechMan I hope Oo.o Protects against users error12:38
intelikeySpiffyman the only keys i have changed from default.  {and i leave nothing default...}  are the two windows keys  which i set to page left and right respectivly in the console.     and i'm in the console 99% of the time.12:39
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Spiffymanintelikey: Well maybe it WON'T be handy at some point. I wouldn't mind making my Windows keys useful, though.12:40
intelikeythinking back i recall asking in an irc channel how to make both alt keys do the same thing...   seems long ago now.12:40
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Schuenemanndon't you just have to map the right alt to do the same as the left alt?12:40
intelikeyyes12:40
SpiffymanMy old Inspiron has all sorts of keys I've yet to test, some of which had useful functions in Windows. So I may yet find a use for remapping.12:41
Schuenemannwell, that's what the link I pasted explains12:41
BluesKajParse error on line 54 of section module in file /etc/X11/xorg,conf ...but I can't access the file cuz i have no X :(12:41
SpiffymanYeah, Schuenemann, thanks for that.12:41
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SpiffymanFirefox has frozen/crashed on me about 4 times today, and I can't tell why.12:41
intelikeyok i'll go back to where i know nothing at all... in "kde"  and try to setup a printer that the computer doesn't know exists...12:42
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BluesKajmurchadh_bhaba: welcome back ..connect probs ?12:42
Spiffymanintelikey: Sounds like fun. I may be joining you in that before long. When I get home from holiday break, I'll have to set up an old Apple LaserWriter.12:43
BluesKajI'm in the shell using irssi. startx gives this message : fatal IO error 104 on X server ":0.0"12:43
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BluesKajI'm in the shell using irssi. startx gives this message : fatal IO error 104 on X server ":0.0"12:44
BluesKajoops12:44
intelikeyneed more info BluesKaj12:44
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BluesKajHowdy, I lost my scrns after trying to resetup direct rendering with my ATI card12:44
BluesKajParse error on line 54 of section module in file /etc/X11/xorg,conf ...but I can't access the file cuz i have no X :(12:45
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intelikeysure you can access the file.   alt+f2 login and sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:45
intelikeyalt+f1 back to here.12:46
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intelikeyBluesKaj you are playing around in that most terrorfying place known as the linux console.... where i live.  :)12:49
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BluesKajhehe intelikey , ok i edited out the line that i added previous to the lost scrn.. how do i save the adits ?12:51
BluesKajedits12:51
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intelikeyand for the record.   not only are there 6 active consoles by default but you can open up to 128 as needed.   and one may scroll up with shift+pg-up  as needed in any active console.12:52
intelikeyas for saving read the help at the bottom of the screen12:52
intelikey^ means the crtl key12:52
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omgponiezlolhello, I need a link to see my ext3 partition on Windows12:54
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intelikeygpm = general purpose mouse   makes copy and paste happen in the console as well as adding mouse functions to some apps.12:55
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intelikeyomgponiezlol search for something called e2fsexplorer   i think12:55
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intelikeyyeah i don't know why gpm is not standard equipment in *buntu...12:56
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LeeJunFanintelikey: because they don't plan on anyone using the console probably.12:57
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omgponiezlolintelikey: thanks.12:57
intelikeyserver install ???12:57
trpri'll take a guess. it probably conflicts with X in rare cases, which they wanted to avoid altogether12:57
intelikeyomgponiezlol np12:57
LeeJunFanintelikey: yeah, servers, but then I only use gpm on my desktop machine as my servers rarely get accessed by anything other than ssh.12:58
intelikeytrpr never seen it conflict.   it also provides a mouse repeter that x can use if you want.12:58
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BluesKajBRB...dinnertime12:59
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LeeJunFanintelikey: then there's the people that say ubuntu isn't a server dist, even though my mailserver with ubuntu kernel no less has an uptime close to 280 days now.12:59
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trprintelikey: i have experienced conflict between the two, but never w/ ubuntu. a few years back i would have to turn gpm off when launching x :\12:59
intelikeytrpr that was kernel 2.4 specific01:00
intelikeyand would work if you used gpm as the repeter.01:00
trprintelikey: ah. that does make a lot of sense. i wonder what reason they have for leaving it out01:01
intelikeyin other words let x access gpmctl rather than the device node.01:01
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intelikeytrpr idk01:01
intelikeysize is not likely to be the reason01:02
intelikeyInstalled-Size: 49601:02
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omgponiezlolhmm i'm having too hard a time recovering grub from this install disk. maybe I'll just leave it like this for now01:02
intelikeyk01:02
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intelikeygrub wont work for me so i have never really tried to learn about it.01:03
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omgponiezlolwell its usually worked for me, I just had to reinstall windows so it went destroyed the MB01:04
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intelikeyyeah01:04
intelikey!grub01:04
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:04
omgponiezlolMBR* I've been at this computer for several hours, I think I'm just going to call it quits for now01:04
intelikeyfirst link ^01:04
omgponiezlolyea i've tried that guide, not working. the installer keeps crashing01:05
intelikeyoooh yuch01:05
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omgponiezloli have a super Grub disk somewhere. I'll use that some time soon01:05
omgponiezlolwell ttul intelikey, i'll probably back on my regular nick01:05
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[Relic] Is there any app that will allow for showing of bandwidth up/down in the bar rather than in an actual application?01:06
[Relic] like ksensors for my cpu temp01:06
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intelikeygkrelm  or some such   i think01:07
intelikey<!sp> gkrlem  ?01:08
intelikeygkrellm01:08
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intelikeyapt-cache search gkrellm     and see if there is anything you like01:09
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Schuenemannhow can I turn a string into upcase, with shell script?01:15
robotgeekSchuenemann: in python, look at string.upper method01:15
Schuenemannnot python, shell script01:15
unix_infidel!info python01:15
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ubotupython: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 208 kB01:15
SchuenemannI don't want python01:16
robotgeekokay01:16
Schuenemann:p01:16
unix_infidelSchuenemann: my query was totally unrelated :P01:16
intelikeySchuenemann tr01:16
Schuenemann!tr01:16
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.01:16
Schuenemannthat doesn't help much01:16
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Schuenemanntr $string ?01:16
intelikeyno not a locale   the app  tr01:16
BluesKajback01:17
intelikeypart of text-utils i think01:17
robotgeekSchuenemann: echo "cat" | tr '[a-z] ' '[A-Z] '`;01:17
Schuenemannwhat... ?01:17
intelikeySchuenemann echo 'your string' | tr [a-z]  [A-Z] 01:18
robotgeekheh, damn typos01:18
Schuenemannthat just changed prompt to >01:18
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intelikeySchuenemann if it's in a file    cat file | | tr [a-z]  [A-Z] 01:19
robotgeekSchuenemann: do what intelikey says, i typoed01:19
intelikeyoops only one |01:19
Schuenemannit's a hslle script01:19
robotgeekfrom http://www.joot.com/dave/writings/articles/unix-tricks.shtml01:19
Schuenemannshell script01:19
intelikeyrobotgeek me too01:19
robotgeekheh, okay01:19
intelikeySchuenemann if it's in a file    cat file | tr [a-z]  [A-Z] 01:19
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intelikeyif you want it into another file    cat file | tr [a-z]  [A-Z]  > newfile01:20
SchuenemannI don't want any files lol01:20
Theoryhurrah! I have suspend working!01:20
SchuenemannI'm doing a shell script, I'll read user input and I wanted to upcase it01:20
intelikeythen use the first example.01:20
Schuenemannisn't there something simple like upcase $var ?01:20
intelikeytr01:20
robotgeekSchuenemann: tr might take that as an argument as well01:20
Schuenemannso, how do I upcase $op ?01:21
intelikeyecho $op | tr [a-z]  [A-Z] 01:21
intelikeyneed that in another veriable   do this01:22
intelikeynewvar=`echo $op | tr [a-z]  [A-Z] `01:22
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Ace2016Does anyone here know anything about xara? it looks free but is it really free forever or it there a catch or something? wasn't it closed source or something?01:23
intelikeyxara-gtk - GTK GUI utility for searching the Debian package database01:23
intelikey!xara-gtk01:23
ubotuxara-gtk: GTK utility for searching the Debian package database. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.13 (edgy), package size 562 kB, installed size 1644 kB01:23
intelikeythat's all i know about it.01:24
Schuenemannecho `$option | tr [a-z]  [A-Z] `01:24
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intelikeyonly if $option expands to something that outputs text01:25
Schuenemann$option is a string read from user input01:25
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Schuenemannappearently it tries to execute the value of $option01:26
intelikeythen the first ` is probably in the wrong place.01:26
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Schuenemannlike if it were a program01:26
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intelikeyyes.01:26
M06whowcome every time i try to do anything to make my computer work better it explodes in my face and i have to reinstall windows, thus loosing half a years worth of settings and documents01:26
intelikeythat's what ` does01:26
Ace2016intelikey: i mean the graphics app as in http://www.xaraxtreme.org/download/01:26
Schuenemannso I should not use `01:26
ZeroSystemhello, i have kubunta and for some reasoin my wireless adapter is always disabled if i enable it it disabales automaticly after 1 sec what could be wrong ?01:26
intelikey` says execute this first01:26
Schuenemannok, I got it to work01:27
Schuenemannecho "$option" | tr [a-z]  [A-Z] 01:27
M06wzero, what brand is your card01:27
ZeroSystembuffalo01:27
M06wbuffalo?01:27
M06wnever heard of buffalo01:27
Schuenemann!buffalo01:27
intelikeyyes   and if you need that done and the output stored in a var  you use ``01:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about buffalo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:27
ZeroSystemhttp://www.buffalotech.com/products/wireless/wireless-g-125-high-speed/wireless-g-125-high-speed-pci-adapter/01:27
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Schuenemannintelikey: right, thx01:27
fdovingintelikey: [:lower:]  and [:upper:]  is fancier :)01:27
Schuenemannfdoving: I need that01:28
ZeroSystemit works on windows sides but it has software disabe at linux01:28
SchuenemannI knew there was something simpler01:28
intelikeymaybe be  but no more functional01:28
M06whow does the system label your cards connection (mines ra0)01:28
fdovingintelikey: it handles  too01:28
ZeroSystemeth101:28
robotgeekM06w: yours is a ralink card01:28
BluesKajintelikey: any suggestions , editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file didn't help :(01:28
Schuenemannfdoving: what's the syntax, please?01:28
robotgeekM06w: so, it will be ra001:28
M06wrobo, i know01:28
intelikeyBluesKaj reconfigure x ?01:29
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M06weth1 would be for an ethernet card i think01:29
intelikeyBluesKaj sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:29
BluesKajok, what's the command /01:29
BluesKaj?01:29
BluesKajok thx01:29
intelikeynp01:29
fdovingintelikey: nevermind, it does not handle those chars.01:29
ZeroSystembut it has a wireless info on it x.x01:30
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fdovingSchuenemann: [:lower:]  does the same as [a-z] , [:upper:]  does the same as [A-Z] 01:30
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Ace2016for xara that is01:30
Schuenemannbut it supports  etc, right?01:30
Schuenemannwithout having to type every rule01:30
mauroWoa, i just read an article that said ubuntu had 8 million users!01:31
M06wanybody got an error map for grub?01:31
fdovingSchuenemann: wouldn't count on it.01:31
Schuenemannfdoving: ok, how do I use it?01:31
mauroanyone know if thats true ?01:31
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Schuenemann[:upper:]  $option ?01:31
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fdovingSchuenemann: no, as intelikey explained earlier. it's options to 'tr'.01:31
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Schuenemannahh...01:31
fdovingSchuenemann: man tr01:31
fdovingM06w: http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html01:32
intelikeySchuenemann no   [A-Z]  == [:upper:]     and [a-z]  == [:lower:] 01:32
Schuenemannthis is worse than what we had01:32
jerpsoulrider: what does the article use as its sources?01:32
intelikeyjust two ways of saying the same thing.01:32
Schuenemannhow about [:alpha:] 01:32
intelikeythat's any letter01:33
intelikeyupper or lower01:33
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intelikeyand [:num:]  is digits  and  [:alnum:]  is both01:33
intelikeyiirc01:34
soulrideri saw it on digg i think01:34
M06wfdoving, would you know how to fix error 11?01:34
Schuenemanndoes not work for , etc01:35
intelikeyman bash    man tr    man regex     man man       just don't   man woman   there is no manual for woman.01:35
Schuenemannheh01:35
intelikeySchuenemann man sed   sed can do anything tr can do and more01:36
fdovingawk is also very very nice.01:37
intelikeybut the syntax is kinda funky01:37
Schuenemannany programming language has upcase(string)...01:37
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intelikeyperl probably01:37
SchuenemannI can do without that, it's okay01:37
intelikeyperl is made for playing with text01:38
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Schuenemannbut ANY language has an upcase function01:38
Schuenemannthat's why I find it weird shell script doesn't01:38
fdovingyou can make a uppercase command in bash too, if you want to.01:38
BluesKajhmmm, intelikey ," dpkg conflicting actions -e (--control) and -r (--remove)"01:38
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intelikeyyou added a space BluesKaj01:39
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intelikeyBluesKaj sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   <<<< repost01:39
intelikeyno space in dpkg- <01:39
intelikeyand don't tell me that's not what happened....01:40
intelikey:)01:40
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intelikeyuse tab-completion.01:40
intelikeydpkg-r[tab] 01:40
defiantWhat do I do to install install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz01:40
intelikeyflash 7 ?01:41
intelikey!flash901:41
ubotuflash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports01:41
soulriderdefiant: install flash 9 formt he repos01:41
ZeroSystemhello i want to know how come i cant enable my wireless adapter ?01:41
defiantsoulrider I am not sure how to do that01:41
Schuenemannis flash9 final already?01:41
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soulriderdefiant: have youi enabled universe and multiverse ?01:42
defiantsoulrider is it possible for you to tell me how to do that please?01:42
defiantsoulrider I do not think I have01:42
Schuenemann!backports | defiant01:42
ubotudefiant: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports01:42
soulriderthere01:43
Schuenemann!multiverse01:43
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:43
soulrideronce you enabled the repos, you need to type "sudo aptitude install flahsplugin-nonfree" in a console01:43
Schuenemann!aptitude01:43
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide01:43
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Schuenemanndoesn't apt-get do that too?01:44
Schuenemannremember dependencies01:44
soulrideryea01:44
soulrideraptitude is like apt-get01:44
intelikeywell the attack is on.01:44
defiantsomeone just sent me a sources list. What do i do with this01:45
Schuenemannsomeone?01:45
defiantYes I think it was intelikey01:45
intelikeydefiant have a look in it.  adjust your /etc/apt/sources.list accordingly.01:45
trprheh. good question. i thought one was a frontend for the other.. not that there was any added functionality01:45
defiantoh Thank you intelikey01:46
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Schuenemanntrpr: but apt-get does that too01:46
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intelikeyyou can remove all but the very first # mark if you like defiant01:46
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defiantgreat! I appreciate it intelikey01:47
intelikeythe reason i have them in there is to disable non-free sources.01:47
intelikeynp   welcome.01:47
fowlduckhi people01:47
fowlduckmiss me?01:47
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Schuenemannintelikey: option="$option" | tr [a-z]  [A-Z] 01:48
intelikeyfowlduck i didn't even shoot at you.01:48
intelikey:)01:48
defiantintelikey I did apt-get update and then I tried apt-get install flash9 and it told me can not find package01:48
Schuenemannis this supposed to work?01:48
intelikeySchuenemann no01:48
Schuenemanndefiant: sudo apt-get install flahsplugin-nonfree01:48
intelikeyoption=`echo "$option" | tr [a-z]  [A-Z] `01:48
intelikeySchuenemann  that is ^01:49
defiantit says could find package intelikey01:49
defiantI mean could not find package intelikey Sorry I mis typed01:49
intelikeyyou have to update after you change sources.list01:49
intelikeysudo apt-get update01:49
intelikeythen try.01:50
defiantI ran that already01:50
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sersport1hi01:50
sersport1i'm russian01:50
intelikeyyou did uncomment backports ?01:51
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intelikey!ru01:51
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke01:51
fowlduckyou might need to add multiverse onto some of those sources01:51
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defiantyes intelikey and the same error01:51
intelikeyfowlduck it's there... if he's using my sources.list  i sent him01:52
fowlduckintelikey: right01:52
intelikeyhmm odd.   the bot thinks it's there.01:52
defiantI am running apt-get update again01:52
BluesKajok intelikey , thx ...got my desktop back :)01:53
defiantsame thing again intelikey01:53
SchuenemannI didn't know shell script was so boring01:53
intelikey!info flashplugin-nonfree01:53
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)01:53
defiantevent not found01:54
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intelikeywell the script kiddy is about to reset my connection again.    i'm not sure how long i'm willing to put up with this...01:54
draikintelikey: script kiddy?01:55
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intelikeylag upto 14 seconds   krap01:55
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Schuenemannintelikey: he's hackign you?01:55
Schuenemannhacking*01:55
intelikeyyeah wana be hacker01:55
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trprrunning scripts at least :p01:55
draikand that's about it01:55
fowlduckintelikey: time to break out metasploit and  drop him like a bad habit01:55
Schuenemannsomething bad about freenode is that it doesn't hide ips01:55
intelikeythinks he is.  been at it for several days.01:56
draiklag: 193 ms01:56
trprwhat did you do to him? "kiddie" is a good adjective. probably is a kid01:56
Schuenemanngo to his house and smack him01:56
intelikeyi have often even started sshd for him  but he is still scared to login...01:56
matthew_intelikey, still getting portscanned?01:56
Steven_M_Is anyone on here using dailup with kubuntu?01:56
SchuenemannI'd better shut up, me might be reading this01:56
defiantintelikey I still get the same error message01:57
draikintelikey: give me his info and I will PERSONALLY go to his house and give him a good "hacking" with my axe... insert stumpy joke here...01:57
maurowhats happening? =/01:57
LeeJunFanintelikey: I setup a user un/pw test/test to test 1 thing on my laptop, and within 15 seconds it was cracked. hehe01:57
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LeeJunFanintelikey: now that was timing.01:57
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LeeJunFanssh01:57
intelikeymatthew_ yeah mostly just scans   been a few ssh hits in the past.01:58
fowlduckLeeJunFan: wow, you must get scanned constantly, I don't get that many scans01:58
Schuenemannhow do I check that?01:58
intelikeydefiant someone else will have to help you.  i'm lagging to bad now.01:58
matthew_intelikey, weird...esp. since ubuntu doesn't have a root account...what does he hope to accomplish? Your password is strong, right?01:58
defiantoh ok. Thank you01:58
intelikeyLeeJunFan lol  i'd say it was.  :)01:59
fowlduckintelikey: do you have a legitimate source address?  If he really is a kid you could seriously piss off his parents01:59
fowlduckoutward-facing passwords must be at a minimum 12 characters with uppercase, lowercase, numbers, and special characters01:59
defiantI am having issues with installation of flash 9. is there anyone that can assist me? Intelikey has given me a source list and I have uncommented what I needed to and I am still getting error cannot find package.01:59
intelikeymatthew_ i use a passwordless account :)  but nosuid  so root is a keyboard only thing.01:59
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Schuenemanndefiant: you ran sudo apt-get update ?02:00
intelikeydraik actually no.   only my isp02:00
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defiantschuenemann yes I have02:00
matthew_intelikey, huh?!?! password less account? what the f#*$ for?02:00
Schuenemanndefiant: sudo apt-get install flahsplugin-nonfree02:00
Schuenemannoops sorry02:00
Schuenemanndefiant: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree02:00
defiantI also ran that already schuenemann02:01
intelikeyfowlduck yeah i got three ip's   two are for sure tor   but one may be legit  not sure.02:01
Schuenemannso, that's it02:01
Schuenemannwas is installed?02:01
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defiantno it was not.02:01
Schuenemannniot found?02:01
defiantit still tells me package not found02:01
soulriderhas anyone here ever used GTKRadiant ?02:01
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fowlduckintelikey: nice02:02
intelikeymatthew_ why should i have to type a password ?    and there is no sinsitive data on this box anyway.02:02
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Schuenemanndefiant: are you sure you typed correctly? I typed wrong02:02
aztekhow do i make the Kicker transparent02:02
matthew_intelikey, true, but it's still less secure...and what's wrong w/ a password?02:03
defiantschuenemann: I type it several times already. Once when you said what to type and once when intelikey told me what to type. I do not understand what I am doing wrong.02:03
Schuenemanndefiant: apt-cache search flashplugin02:03
Schuenemanndoes this find anything?02:04
defiantno02:04
Schuenemannmaybe the file he sent you was not ok?02:05
defiantthat is always a possibility02:05
matthew_aztec, right-click on Kicker and select Configure02:05
Schuenemanndoes it have a line like: deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse02:05
matthew_aztek, You can find the option in there02:05
Schuenemann?02:05
Schuenemannnot commented02:06
defiantNo02:06
defiantIt says edgy02:06
Schuenemannyou're using edgy right?02:06
defianthonestly I do not know02:06
Schuenemannkubuntu 6.10 ?02:06
defiantI just burned the disk and installed it02:06
defiantYes02:07
Schuenemannthat's edgy02:07
defiantOk.02:07
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defiantSo in that case that line is there uncommented schuenemann02:08
rOx-710Hello02:08
rOx-710There Is Can Help Me ?02:08
fowlducksomeone check on the package-name for him, sheesh02:08
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Schuenemann!it Z fowlduck02:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about it Z fowlduck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:09
Schuenemann!it | rOx-71002:09
uboturOx-710: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:09
rOx-710thx a lo02:09
rOx-710lot02:09
rOx-710:D02:09
Schuenemanndefiant: and it should be like that... :-/02:09
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defiantdo u know of a reason why I would not be getting that update?02:10
Schuenemannwhat was the output to update?02:10
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defiantReading Package list... Done02:11
Schuenemannthat's weird02:11
defiantshould I put in the line that you said and see what happens?02:11
Schuenemannyou told me you already have that line02:11
defianti have that line but it says edgy. The one that you wrote has dapper. I do not know what the difference is. i am sorry. That is why I asked02:12
SchuenemannI'm using dapper, that's why it says dapper02:12
defiantOh02:12
Schuenemann6.06 = dapper, 6.10 = edgy02:12
defiantI understand02:12
Schuenemanndoes it say universe and multiverse too?02:13
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defiantCan I paste it to you?02:13
kaiwasup people02:13
Schuenemann!pastebin02:13
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:13
Schuenemannpaste there02:13
Schuenemannhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/02:13
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defiantI can not get it to copy and paste02:15
Schuenemannhow come?02:15
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brandon_is kubuntu and ubuntu debian?02:15
matthew_based on debian02:16
Schuenemanndebian based02:16
defiantWhat do I do with this thing after I paste it in there?02:16
Schuenemanntell me the URL so I can see it02:16
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defianthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39525/02:16
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Schuenemannit's missing "restricted", but I don't know if that matters02:18
kaiI installed frostwire but when i try to run it doenst do anything? whats wrong with my program?02:18
Agent_bobwhat's the command to recover a nickname ?02:18
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defiantactually above that it says restricted02:19
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Schuenemannbut commented, right?02:19
defiantno02:19
Schuenemannwhich line?02:19
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defiantdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted univer$02:20
defiant deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted un$02:20
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defiantwhy does that not display the whole thing02:20
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Schuenemannwhat you pasted does not have that "us" before "archive"02:21
veronica!restrictedformats02:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:21
hepmei'm in kubuntu 6.10 and reading the documentation and it says to enable multiverse by clicking 'view->manage repositories' from adept, but i don't have that option in my adept for some reason. i only have 'view->review changes'. any idea?02:21
defiantare they all supposed to have the us before them?02:22
soulriderhepme: how did you open adept?02:22
soulriderdid you use katapult or did you launch it from the tray icon ?02:22
Schuenemannno, but why the one you pasted here has us?02:22
slougiSchuenemann: defiant: the us just means to use mirrors from the USA02:22
hepmesoulrider: from 'add/remove programs'02:22
soulriderhepme: press alt and space02:23
soulriderand type adept02:23
hepmedidnt know it changes options depending on how you open it02:23
soulriderthen press enter02:23
soulrideryou should be able to do it there02:23
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hepmehaha that was rad02:23
hepmekde rocks02:23
soulrideri think what you opened is some sort of reduced version, thats why02:23
Schuenemannslougi: I know, but the text he pasted at pastebin doesn't have it, and the one he pasted here does, so it seems he pasted different texts02:23
slougihepme: yeah it's a bit confusing, adept has something like 3 different modes02:23
slougiSchuenemann: ah02:23
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slougiSchuenemann: right, sorry to butt in like that02:24
hepmekde is definitely a little more complex to figure out than gnome but certainly worth it so far02:24
intelikeynow if the lag would go away.  :)02:24
Schuenemanndefiant: is the "restricted" after a sharp?02:24
defiantyes02:24
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Schuenemannso it's commented :p02:24
slougihepme: yeah kde is a bit more complex, but it is also a lot more diverse and functional02:24
Schuenemannput the sharp after it and save02:24
slougihepme: it's also been getting a lot easier to use over the years02:24
intelikeyor just remove it altogather02:25
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intelikey!botsnack02:25
ubotuYum!02:25
intelikeyhey i'm not lagging now.02:25
intelikey:)02:25
Schuenemanndid you kill him?02:25
slougilag sucks :P02:25
defiantNow I a getting duplicate entry errors Suenemann02:26
intelikeyno he lives.02:26
hepmeslougi:  cool, i just need to get it a little more stable, it was doing a couple things where i'd click on an app and suddenly my entire screen would go blank and i had to restart kdm. but i ran xserver-org and set some options that hopefully fixed it. however i enabled my mouse to use the scroll wheel and it now works however my screen refreshes WAY slower for some reason02:26
Schuenemannintelikey: what kind of bogus sources.list did you send to defiant? :p02:26
defiantLoL02:26
intelikeynot bogus  just commented out restricted.02:26
Schuenemannhe needs restricted for flash, right?02:27
intelikeyi'll pastebin it.02:27
intelikeyidk02:27
Schuenemann!restricted02:27
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:27
intelikeyi don't do restricted  nor flash02:27
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SpiffymanGrrrr. Firefox is very unstable for me.02:27
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SpiffymanI just lost about 10 mins worth of edits on the DellInspiron9100 Wiki page. ><02:28
hepmeSpiffyman which version02:28
hepmeff2.0 is very stable in osx and windows but not linux for some reason :(02:28
defiantintelikey, can I just copy and paste your whole sources list over mine and see what happens?02:28
SpiffymanInstalled via Adept. Hang on. Lemme restart it.02:28
intelikeyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39527/plain/ <<<< Schuenemann02:28
intelikeysome one is knocking at my door again.02:29
SpiffymanLooks like straight 2.002:29
defiantschuenemann can I just paste that into my sources list?02:29
Schuenemanntry it02:30
Schuenemannbut uncommented where is says restricted02:30
Schuenemannjust remove those sharps02:30
Schuenemannand remove that first line too02:30
Spiffymanhepme: Is there a more stable version, or should I revert to 1.5? I like my Zotero extension. ><02:30
SchuenemannI mean the sharps after restricted02:30
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pwn4tt4ckis fowlduck or jontec here?02:31
fowlduckwhattup yo02:31
pwn4tt4ckfowlduck: whats up homie!!!02:31
fowlducknada mucho, coding, u?02:32
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pwn4tt4ckfowlduck: Hanging out with my girlfriend, who thinks IRC is boring ( :-O! ) I'll be on later tonight, when my g/f leaves, will you be on, say, in 2 or 3 hours?02:32
Schuenemanndefiant: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39528/plain/02:33
Schuenemanntry this one, and I hope it works02:33
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ravencrowhey everyone.  Question: I'm going to sell my computer, but want to fully format my drive.  What should I use to do that?02:33
pwn4tt4ckravencrow: I was just burn the HDD and sell the comp without it02:34
Schuenemannburn? what a wast02:34
Schuenemannwaste*02:34
Schuenemanngive it to me02:34
pwn4tt4ckravencrow: but your hdd doesnt have any sensative info on it? Nothing you want to get off?02:34
pwn4tt4ckravencrow: if you just want to clear it, google "harddrive reformat"02:35
pwn4tt4ckin quotes, btw02:35
pwn4tt4ckSchuenemann: I would give it to you, but again, sensative info I dont want you having, hence I'd melt it down to nothing. or at least char it beyond recovery02:35
pwn4tt4ckbbl all02:35
defiantsschuenemannschuenemann it still did not get the flash02:36
Schuenemanndefiant: did you save and run sudo apt-get updatE?02:36
Schuenemannupdate*02:36
defiantyes I did02:36
ravencrowOk.  I was thinking of completely erasing it..as I did have some sensative billing info..but a regular format would probably do the trick02:37
defiantFetched 1255B in 9s (138B/s)02:37
Schuenemannnow you tried getting flash?02:37
defiantyes02:37
defiantand nothing02:37
defiantcouldn't find package it says02:38
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Schuenemannapt-cache search flashplugin doesn't find anything?02:38
defiantnope02:38
Schuenemannomg...02:38
Admiral_Chicagomight need to add repos02:38
SchuenemannAdmiral_Chicago: this is his sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39528/plain/02:38
SpiffymanIs there a more stable version of Firefox 2, or should I revert to 1.5? I'm open to other browsers that can use FF extensions.02:39
Admiral_Chicagodid you do apt-get update ?02:39
Schuenemannhe said so...02:39
robotgeekhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=all&subword=0&exact=1&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=flashplugin-nonfree&searchon=names02:39
robotgeekerr, flashplugin-nonfree02:39
Admiral_ChicagoSpiffyman: Flock uses extensions as does Konqueror02:39
defiantYes I did Admiral_Chicago02:40
aztekgood lord Kubuntu is turning into a dependency nightmare for installing stuff02:40
Admiral_Chicagodefiant: hmm, you what does apt-cache search flash tell you02:40
Schuenemannis this the first time you use apt-get?02:40
defiantAdmiral_Chicago, it just went back to the command prompt02:40
robotgeekit is in edgy-backports, so to speak02:41
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Schuenemannbut he has backports02:41
dopewhat's a good program for accessing a webcam on a remote computer?02:41
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Schuenemanndefiant: is this the first time you use apt-get?02:42
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defiantSchuenemann: I have used it before but I am coming from a windows environmet. Although  I have ran everything that I have read and everything that you guys have told me to02:42
azteki'm trying to compile something from source and after ./configure it pukes saying QT (>= Qt 3.2) headers and libraries not found. how do i install that02:42
intelikeykde is krazy.  it runs the first time wizard every time i start it.02:43
Schuenemanndid you run apt-get upgrade some time?02:43
robotgeek!comiple > aztek02:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about comiple - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:43
defiantNo I have not02:43
robotgeek!compile > aztek02:43
Admiral_Chicago!compile > aztek02:43
robotgeekdouble attack!02:43
SchuenemannAdmiral_Chicago: is upgrade required before all that?02:43
intelikeyqt-dev ?02:44
Admiral_ChicagoSchuenemann: before what?02:44
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Schuenemannbefore installing things02:44
Schuenemannhe's using apt-get for the first time02:44
Admiral_Chicagoupgrade will "install the newest version of all packages" from sources.list02:44
intelikeylibqt4-dev ?02:45
SpiffymanDoes Konqueror use FF extensions?02:45
SchuenemannAdmiral_Chicago: would he find flashplugin without upgrade, anyway?02:45
intelikeySpiffyman mozilla extentions are default in konq yes02:45
defiantshould I do apt-get upgrade?02:45
Admiral_Chicagodefiant: couldn't hurt02:46
SpiffymanThanks, intelikey. I'm sharing my profile data between the Windows installation of FF and the Kubuntu one. If I use Konqueror, should that pose any problem?02:46
Admiral_Chicagoare you sure your sources is in /etc/apt/sources.list02:46
defiant0 across the board02:46
defiantaye aye02:46
Admiral_Chicagowhat do you mean 0?02:46
intelikeySpiffyman i'm not sure how that will translate.... Admiral_Chicago  might02:47
defiantZero upgraded, installed, removed02:47
hepmehrm, i enabled multiverse and universe from adept but i still dont have 'libxine-extracodecs' showing up. any ideas?02:47
Schuenemannthis can't be right02:47
intelikey!libxine-extracodecs02:47
defiantDoes it matter that i am running this as root Admiral_Chicago02:47
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB02:47
Admiral_ChicagoSpiffyman: your Konqueror profile will use a seperate profile than your FX one, just install the .jar in Konqueror.02:47
intelikeyhepme you applied the change ?02:48
ravencrowhow does one format a floppy as FAT on kubuntu?02:48
Admiral_Chicagodefiant: you should be typing sudo apt-get update. what do you mean root (is root sudo)?02:48
hepmei clicked 'apply' and 'close' and reopened adept to make sure it refreshed my chagnes02:48
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defiantI was not typing sudo in front02:48
Admiral_Chicagohepme: open up konsole and type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs02:49
intelikeysudo is not needed if you are root.02:49
Admiral_Chicagodefiant: try sudo anyways. couldn't hurt02:49
defiantI just did and nothing02:49
defiantYou saw my source list and it is ok?02:50
intelikeywell actually it could hurt if for what ever reason root was not allowed to sudo...  but that's another horn of oil02:50
Schuenemanndefiant: is that file /etc/apt/sources.list ?02:50
defiantyes it is02:50
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Schuenemannhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39528/plain/02:51
Admiral_Chicagoit looks okay so far, let me check one more thing02:52
Admiral_ChicagoAH!02:52
Admiral_Chicagoi think it matters that there is no country code02:52
Admiral_Chicagodefiant: what country are you in?02:52
defiantUS02:52
Admiral_Chicago!easysource > Admiral_Chicago02:52
intelikeyshouldn't ..  i never use one.02:53
Admiral_Chicagodefiant: give me a sec02:53
defiantOk02:53
SpiffymanI'm sorry, Admiral_Chicago. What .jar?02:53
Spiffyman...02:53
SpiffymanDammit.02:53
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DefiantRicanSorry02:54
intelikeyactually this is mine.    cat /etc/apt/sources.list02:54
SpiffymanI'm sorry, Admiral_Chicago. What .jar?02:54
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main universe multiverse02:54
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main universe multiverse02:54
intelikeydeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main universe multiverse02:54
HymnToLife!pastebin | intelikey02:54
ubotuintelikey: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:54
Admiral_Chicagointelikey: link back to sources?02:54
intelikey!thanks | HymnToLife02:55
ubotuHymnToLife: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)02:55
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Admiral_ChicagoSpiffyman: the .jar that is a FX extension02:55
hepmeAdmiral_Chicago: that worked and for some reason after i did that libxine-extracodecs now shows up in adept, is it because of the apt-get update line?02:55
Admiral_Chicagohepme: probably02:55
hepmewonder why my adept didnt update after i clicked 'apply'02:55
SpiffymanAh, okay.02:55
Admiral_Chicagodid you do "full upgrade"02:55
hepmeno02:55
Admiral_Chicagothat might be it02:56
hepmedist-upgade, what does that do anyway?02:56
Admiral_Chicagointelikey: do you think architecture has anything to do with it02:56
HymnToLifehepme, upgrade all packages to latest version02:56
HymnToLifejust like upgrade but handles dependencies differently02:56
Admiral_Chicagoupgraded your packages. "update" just gets a list02:56
hepmeshould i always run  apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade before i run apt-get install?02:56
HymnToLifehepme, not necessarily02:57
HymnToLifeit can't hurt though02:57
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago ?   his k8 ?02:57
Admiral_Chicagohepme: not really02:57
Admiral_Chicagobut it wouldn't hurt02:57
umaloneYay! I can now read and write to my external USB hdd  with ntfs file system. :)02:57
Admiral_Chicagointelikey: no then it wouldn't...02:57
Admiral_Chicagooh well i think he left unfortunetly. well i'm going to drum up some dinner02:58
Admiral_Chicagobbl02:58
intelikeyi don't think so.    never saw that throw a apt fit before....02:58
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hepmeany idea why my refresh rate on my screen is so slow after i ran xserver-org? the only options i really cahnged was i turned kernel frame buffering on and i changed my mouse settings to how i had them in gnome to enable my scroll wheel02:59
hepmewhen i scroll up pages it's really slow and jerky02:59
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intelikey frame buffering on  <<<<02:59
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hepmei had to turn frame buffering on in gnome to get my videos to play right, but i guess it's different in kde. i'll try turning it back off03:00
intelikeyyou don't want that.  you want the xorg driver for your hardware  unless you intend to do graphical things in the console.03:00
intelikeysounds like you played the vidios in full screen with fb-con   i personally like that but it is hard on X03:01
intelikeyoooops fire!03:02
intelikeybbl03:02
hepmek thx03:03
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hepmewhen i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  it says 'vesa' for  'x server driver', should i put it to 'ati' ?  i have a pci ati radeon 9000 video card (it doesn't support flgrx though, so it's still vesa/mesa or whatever)03:05
harrisony1!ati | hepme03:05
ubotuhepme: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:05
harrisony1that may help03:06
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hepmethanks03:06
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dopecan someone explain symbolic links03:06
HymnToLifedope, to put it shortly, a symlink is like a "shotrcut" in windows03:07
hepmeyeah, that thing is for the ati 'fglrx' driver, i tried that last time and it screwed everything up :(03:07
dopelike say i have a picture in my home folder and i want to have it in my webserver htdocs folder too. would i use a symbolic link?03:07
hepmei think i have to use generic vesa for my ati card to work03:07
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hepmemines just a 64mb ati radeon 9000, not a fancy 3D accelerated one03:08
HymnToLifedope, yep03:08
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secondeanyone know how to get a chatroom working on kubuntu because I'm bored and I fancy winding people up03:09
harrisony1seconde: chat room as in...03:10
HymnToLifeseconde, you mean runing an IRC server ?03:10
dopeso how do i set that up?03:10
dopecause the picture is gonna be changing, same filename but different file03:10
secondewell...my girlfriend and I are bored and we fancy messing about on a chatroom, but Mozilla needs Java03:11
secondewhich isn't installed03:11
secondeand I am FAR too much of a muppet to install it03:11
HymnToLifedope, ln -s /path/to/sourcefile.foo /path/to/dir/you/want/symlink/to/be/in03:11
harrisony1seconde: try /j #randomname03:11
dopeso it's source and then destination?03:11
dopeok03:11
secondeI've been looking for easy Debian install packages but I can't find any03:11
harrisony1and then get her in there as well03:11
dopeand it'll put a copy in the destination?03:11
HymnToLifeyou can specify a filename for the symlink if you want it different from the source file's03:11
secondeI have no idea how to compile a source package03:11
dopehow would i delete it?03:12
HymnToLiferm, just like any other file03:12
dopecan i just open up konqueror and delete the file?03:12
dopeok thx03:12
dopegonna test it03:12
HymnToLife!compiling | seconde03:12
ubotuseconde: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)03:12
harrisony1seconde: you dont need to get her to learn irc and then just get both to join a random channel03:12
dopeso i can't open the symbolic link file?03:15
dopecause nothing happens when i click on it03:15
secondeis there any way to get a debian package installer other than compiling the source for Java?03:15
HymnToLife!java03:16
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository03:16
dopeseconde: you could try using automatix203:16
HymnToLife!automatix03:16
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe03:16
Schuenemann!amv03:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about amv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:16
dopepretty sure automatix has java in it03:16
Schuenemanndoes anybody know a program to convert from avi/mpeg to AMV?03:16
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secondeI'll try these, cheers people03:17
HymnToLifeSchuenemann, what's AMV ?03:17
HymnToLifeto me it means only Anime Music Video :p03:17
Schuenemannit's the video format used by ipod-like mp4 players03:17
dopeHymnToLife: so if i have a webpage that uses the symbolicly linked file as the source for like an image will it show the image?03:17
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umaloneI installed sun-java5-jre to get java support on my new kubuntu system03:18
HymnToLifedope, yes, if file permissions allow it03:18
dopeok cool03:18
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dopei don't think i have the proper permissions03:25
dopehow do i fix that03:27
dopewhat's the difference between a hard link and a symbolic one?03:28
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HymnToLifedope, hardlink is two names for the same file, symlink is a file redirecting to another03:30
dopeah03:30
HymnToLifehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symlink03:30
umaloneFor file permissions, chmod is your friend03:30
dopechmod 775 file.jpg03:31
dope?03:31
dopeis that right03:31
HymnToLifeyes03:31
dopeok cool thx03:31
umaloneman chmod for finding out the syntax03:31
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hiall123456i have problem when starting amarok says an error: "Warning: kbuildsycoca is unable to register with DCOP.  kbuildsycoca running...   KSycoca: Error: No database available!"  any clues on how to fix this? (this prevents Amarok from starting up)03:31
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Schuenemannso, every file has at least one hard link03:33
dopedamn, this isn't working03:34
dopewhen i have konqueror do the link it works fine03:34
ughhis there command to show my desktop by minimizing all open windows?03:34
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smaxhi guys03:34
Schuenemannctrl + alt + d03:34
HymnToLife!hi [ smax03:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hi [ smax - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:35
HymnToLife!hi | smax03:35
ubotusmax: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!03:35
ughhcool03:35
smaxi installed build-essential yet i still cant bring up the man pages for bind() and strtok()  which are C programming sys calls03:35
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HymnToLifesmax, second time, manpages are not C handbooks03:35
hiall123456i have problem when starting amarok says an error: "Warning: kbuildsycoca is unable to register with DCOP.  kbuildsycoca running...   KSycoca: Error: No database available!"  any clues on how to fix this? (this prevents Amarok from starting up)03:35
ughhSchuenemann:  do you know what the keyboard command to open up k-menu is? (i need to map it to my windows key too)03:35
Schuenemannalt f103:36
ughhthanks03:36
smaxi didnt say they were hand books03:36
smaxi know C03:36
smaxi need the man pages03:36
Schuenemannughh: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id255276803:36
smaxwhy would a OS written in C not provide man pages. sheesh03:36
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intelikeysmax what man pages ?03:37
ytooxhi, has any of you installed milkesque for baghira style?03:37
intelikeysmax tldp.org  ?03:38
ughhi like how all the kde commands start with a K, makes me not want to install firefox and gaim to break the consistency :p03:39
dopechmod wasn't really working i don't think.  there's a little lock on the file :/03:39
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dopei don't think this symbolic link stuff is working.  it created a file but the file doesn't really do anything03:40
hiall123456happy hollidays03:40
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dopeany ideas?03:41
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flaccid9951dope whats the error03:42
intelikeydope the file that is a symlink is link having a copy of the file in another location or under another name    what are you trying to do ?03:42
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intelikeylink/like ^03:42
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GeroGhi! can anyone tell me why i don't have any /dev/hda*? i'm pretty new with linux...03:43
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flaccidGeroG have a look at sudo fdisk -l03:44
intelikeyGeroG cause no device was detected there ?03:44
morvokGeroG: depending on your internal devices they will register as /dev/sda*03:44
GeroGthere is no sda, too03:45
morvokscsi, sata drives and so on.03:45
smaxhow do i get manpages for C library calls03:45
Lam_is there a way to run a _find_ inside konqueror? i want to "find" certain .jpg files under a particular directory tree in order to see they're named correctly03:45
smaxand system calls03:45
intelikeyudev only makes the device nodes for what it detects.03:45
TheoryLam_: you can use the locate: kioslave03:45
intelikeysmax check tldp.org ?03:45
Lam_Theory: i'll give that a try. thanks03:45
intelikeyLam_ and yes you can activate the terminal emulator function of knoq and type in there also.03:46
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ughhsmax they didnt install when you installed 'build-essential' package for gcc and stuff?03:46
Lam_intelikey: how do i go about doing that?03:46
smaxughh nope03:47
GeroGflaccid: fdisk says cannot open /proc/partitions03:48
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Lam_intelikey: nvm found it.03:48
flaccidGeroG interesting. i don't know what it could be but googling the error might help03:49
intelikeyLam_ where did you find it ?  cause now i'm not seeing it     lol03:49
Lam_intelikey: lol. tools menu. ctrl+e03:49
intelikeyi know it used to be there.....03:49
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intelikeyk03:50
intelikeyLam_ no that's not what i meant.03:50
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GeroGflaccid: i'm running the liveCD at the moment, cause i cannot boot by linux. i mounted my kubuntu-partition and made chroot. could that cause the problem?03:50
intelikeythere used to be this little bottom window that was a terminal that was synced to the other windows.03:51
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Lam_oh neat. i'll see if i can find it03:51
intelikeyit seems to be removed in this konqueror version.03:51
ughhsmax it seems to be  apt-cache search manpages-dev03:51
intelikeythat was one of the things i did like about konq.... now it's gone !03:51
HymnToLifethat's one of the thing I don't like about Kubuntu03:52
HymnToLifethe stripped-down KDE03:52
morvokanybody remember what band did the song "snacks"?03:52
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HymnToLife!offtopic | morvok03:52
ubotumorvok: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:52
Lam_locate: seems to be a little flimsy since it locates files matching the criteria within the entire root tree. i'm just trying to run it under a particular directory tree03:52
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BluesKajbummer , trying to get direct rendering back .. "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". ...How do I fix that ?03:53
LeeJunFananyone know of a util which can convert an image to SVG (vector)? It's a simple black and white text.03:53
BluesKaj"Error: couldn't get an RGBA, Double-buffered visual"03:54
ughhsmax 'manpages-dev' that is03:54
dopeok i'm back03:55
dopestill having the symlink problem03:56
HymnToLifedope, what is the exact command you run ?03:56
slougiLeeJunFan: you can kind of do that with inkscape03:57
slougiLeeJunFan: can't remember how exactly, but the workflow was something like import bitmap -> trace outlines -> save03:57
dopei type ln -s file.jpg ~/Desktop/03:57
dopeand it creates a file named file.jpg on the desktop but it has a lock03:58
dopenow if i use konqueror and drag the file to the desktop and select the link here option it doesn't have that lock03:59
HymnToLifetype the full path of your source file03:59
intelikeyLam_ the terminal emulator is still there but the menu listing seems to have been removed.  i used  konqueror > menu > settings > configure shortcuts       scroll down about half way and find    show terminal emulator   and assign a shortcut key combo   :)03:59
dopewow that worked03:59
dopewtfizzle03:59
dopethx04:00
Lam_intelikey: wow that is hidden deep. i'll give that a try, thanks04:00
wizard_i've got a folder that i need two users to have read-write acces to04:00
wizard_how should it be chowned and chmodded?04:00
LeeJunFanslougi: thanks, I was using inkscape and tracing the layer below :)04:00
slougiLeeJunFan: no problem :)04:00
HymnToLifewizard_, create group foo with those two users in04:01
HymnToLifechown to root:foo, chmod to 77504:01
wizard_HymnToLife: they're in the same group, still only one can write to it04:01
wizard_oh okay04:01
HymnToLifewizard_, it will be writable for all users in group foo04:01
dopesweet it works, thx HymnToLife04:02
Lam_intelikey: even with the terminal emulator, there's no way to print the result (in this case, display the .jpg files that _find_ outputs) into the main konqueror display?04:02
HymnToLifeso you'll need to create anew one if you want it to be writable _only_ by those two users04:02
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intelikeyLam_ sure you can highlight point at the location bar and middle click04:02
wizard_HymnToLife: its a htdocs folder so i am trying to be careful aboutchanging system-wide files04:02
wizard_HymnToLife: on the particular system, only users withssh access get access to group users04:04
wizard_HymnToLife: all other users created go to specific groups04:04
wizard_HymnToLife: say samba-usr04:04
wizard_ftp-usr04:04
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Lam_intelikey: err maybe you misunderstand lol. i want to display all of the jpgs that _find_ successfully finds into the main konq screen, similar to how it was as if i did locate:somejpgfile.jpg and it found all instances of that jpg file04:04
pwn4tt4ckwhat is samba?04:05
wizard_pwn4tt4ck: samba allows linux to access and create windows shares04:05
rcrooksamba is a package to allow windows machine to mount shares from linux04:05
wizard_it can also act as a nt4 primary domain controller for windows04:05
Lam_!samba04:05
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT04:05
intelikeyLam_ oh multi.  yeah i did mis-read on that.04:05
HymnToLifewizard_, there's no way you can make a dir  read/writable by two users _only_ without creating a group tor them04:05
Lam_intelikey: ok just checking. thanks for the help :)  i didn't know there was a terminal emulator04:06
pwn4tt4ckdoes samba do the functions of WinE as well?04:06
matthew_intelikey, still getting "hacked"?04:06
wizard_HymnToLife: they are in group users04:06
slougipwn4tt4ck: no04:06
HymnToLifenote the _only_ :)04:06
HymnToLifeif you chown root:users & chmod 75504:06
pwn4tt4ckslougi: thanks04:07
HymnToLifeal user n group will have write access04:07
HymnToLife775*04:07
intelikeymatthew_ no  not now.04:07
wizard_HymnToLife: these two users are teh only two users who are part of the group users04:07
wizard_*wipes brow*04:07
wizard_HymnToLife: every other use has a specific group assigned to them and users is NOT a subgroup04:07
HymnToLifethen here you go04:07
HymnToLifechown to root:user, chmod to 77504:07
matthew_brilliant...I hate it when kids try stuff like that...you know? I mean, c'mon, you're on dialup for crying out loud...what does he hope to accomplish? lol.04:08
wizard_HymnToLife: kk, and i can do that to the folders without editing files, correct?04:08
HymnToLifeuse the -R switch04:08
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wizard_that changes ownership of all the files in the folder04:08
HymnToLifeto also change perms and ownership of all fles in the dir04:08
wizard_i don't want to change the perms of files04:08
matthew_intelikey, I believe there are novelty sites online that will tell you where you are based on your IP address...try typing in his...04:08
HymnToLife(and also subdirs, if any)04:08
HymnToLifethen don't use it :)04:08
wizard_HymnToLife: im trying to cheat changing the folder perms without the file ones being touched lol04:09
intelikeymatthew_ ah, like a dog chasing a car.  it's not the catch.  it's the chase.04:09
intelikeymatthew_ heh whois04:09
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HymnToLifewizard_, no cheating, it's normal behavior04:09
intelikey!whois04:09
ubotuwhois: the GNU whois client. In component main, is optional. Version 4.7.14 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 272 kB04:09
HymnToLifeyou add the -R switch to also change the files04:09
intelikeymatthew_  apt-get install whois ; whois <ip>04:10
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matthew_intelikey, did you get his name? probably not....04:11
Yoshitsuneanyone know the CLI command to find the /dev/xxx of a zip drive connected to a parallel port?04:11
matthew_what was his IP? just want to check it out...04:11
matthew_intelikey, ^^^04:11
intelikeymatthew_ only thing is that i'm not sure it's the right ip so i'm not advertizing it.04:12
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matthew_okey doke....04:12
LeeJunFanslougi: for future reference xara works much better at the tracing.04:12
intelikeyi'll get him.       i think he's a normal lurker in this channel as well04:12
slougiLeeJunFan: right, i've been meaning to look into that for a while now04:13
matthew_very cool, I didn't know so much info was available...just did google...lol04:13
slougiLeeJunFan: any idea if it is gpl yet?04:13
LeeJunFanI don't know about that.04:13
slougiright, thanks for the info anyway04:13
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matthew_intelikey, that bastard...04:14
intelikeylol   na04:14
intelikeylet bless and curse not.04:14
intelikeycarma as they say...04:14
matthew_idk...I'd be pretty pissed if someone was bogging down my connection crap...04:14
matthew_karma? lol04:14
wizard_intelikey: it wasn't me :-\04:15
wizard_intelikey: so stop giving me that look04:15
intelikeylol wizard_ i know it wasn't you.  :)04:15
wizard_intelikey: phew... :-)04:15
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intelikeybesides i kinda invited the first attempt.    and he seems to think that means it's a standing offer.     but after all, i did say something to the affect of 'if you think you can, just root this thing'    so  i guess he thought he could.04:19
matthew_intelikey, oh, now it makes sense...04:19
matthew_lol, too bad there's no root...04:19
wizard_intelikey: lol.. did he get it?04:19
intelikeywizard_ no.04:19
intelikeymatthew_ there is root.04:19
wizard_intelikey: then who cares change the port and see what he does thereafter lol04:20
intelikeyon every linux system there is root.04:20
matthew_intelikey, yeah, but for default on ubuntu, there is no root user...just sudo...04:20
HymnToLifematthew_, yes there is !04:20
wizard_matthew_: the default user = root pseudo-essentially.04:20
wizard_however, the default user must use sudo04:20
intelikeymatthew_ <BZZZ> wrong answer04:20
matthew_intelikey, I agree w/ wizard... about the port thing...04:20
HymnToLifedo less /etc/passwd if you don't believe us04:21
matthew_huh, I didn't know that...04:21
matthew_HymnToLife, I'll take all your guys' word for it!04:21
matthew_learn something new every day!04:21
wizard_matthew_: yeah the first user created could technically constitute as having root access via sudo... gain access to the first user made (assuming the default configuration remained) and a person looking to cause damage can do a great deal with that user04:22
intelikeywizard_ and matthew_ the root user is the same on ever linux os   the fact that ubuntu also uses a root jr. account makes no differance to that fact.04:22
angasuleubuntu doesn't give root a password, so that one can't log in as root, but that's all, 0 is still root's uid04:22
matthew_intelikey, ok, that root jr. thing makes sense to me.04:22
angasulewizard_: actually, you need the password of the user, otherwise you can't use sudo04:22
intelikeybut on this box there is no root jr.   no sudo  no su04:22
intelikeymatthew_ your box has root and root jr.04:23
matthew_angasule, oh, that makes sense...that's what I meant in the first place, that because you can't login as root, no damage...unless he guesses your password...04:23
pwn4tt4ckwoah, angasule, is that why I cant log in as root? because there is no pass?04:23
wizard_intelikey: assuming root access is disabled04:23
wizard_intelikey: and assuming you use different passwords for default user and root04:23
wizard_you're fine04:23
angasulepwn4tt4ck: if you're on ubuntu, yes, that's why04:23
pwn4tt4ckI came from using another version of linux, and I always made changes as root and when I switched to ubuntu I was worried as to why I couldn't log in as root04:24
intelikey<wizard_> intelikey: assuming root access is disabled <<<< you mean that the password is locked.    access to root is never disabled really.  init uses the root account regularly04:24
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angasuleyou shouldn't be using root too much, anyway04:24
pwn4tt4ckangasule: so the default user, that being the first you make, is essentially the root user?04:24
HymnToLifepwn4tt4ck, you should never ever login as root04:24
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HymnToLifejust use su whan needed04:24
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wizard_intelikey: i was talking about ssh and ftp04:24
angasuleno, pwn4tt4ck, the default user has permission to use sudo, that's all04:24
HymnToLifewhen*04:24
pwn4tt4ckangasule: what is sude?04:24
pwn4tt4cksudo*04:24
wizard_intelikey: assuming ssh has root disabled, they wont be able to access it thru ssh upon login, only after first gaining access04:24
HymnToLife!sudo04:24
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:24
angasulepwn4tt4ck: you can add aditional users to the sudo group, as well04:25
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pwn4tt4ckoh neat04:25
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intelikeywizard_ oh yes never allow remote root access unless it's a server and a must have.04:25
wizard_intelikey: my policy is you get to root only after getting to user04:25
wizard_intelikey: get in, then su04:25
pwn4tt4ckangasule: so the users in the sudo group are the ones that can install things and make system changes?04:25
angasulewizard_: yeah, same here04:25
angasulepwn4tt4ck: yes04:25
wizard_intelikey: so even if someone DOES attack you, and gets a basic user account to access04:25
intelikeywizard_ but on this box you can not get to root from user04:25
HymnToLifepwn4tt4ck, by default, yes04:25
wizard_intelikey: what damage cna they *really*cause04:25
HymnToLifethough the group is calles "admin"04:26
HymnToLifecalled*04:26
wizard_intelikey: then let the poor loser attack away04:26
wizard_intelikey: then buy him tampons after he fails04:26
intelikeyi have been :)04:26
pwn4tt4ckangasule: can users not in the sudo group install programs?04:26
wizard_intelikey: i learned my lesson about having root access on my server once lol04:26
wizard_via ssh04:26
angasulepwn4tt4ck: only to their home directories, not to the system04:26
pwn4tt4ckangasule: I dont know if it can be done, but I want to limit my brother's internet browsing. Can I just set his konqueror on his username only so that he cant view 'adult content'?04:27
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smaxhi04:27
wizard_intelikey: what is he doing? script kiddie attacks?04:28
smaxwhat are the keystrokes to navigate between workspaces04:28
smaxthe pager rather04:28
pwn4tt4ckI ask specifically only effects him because there are a lot of things I want to block him out of04:28
wizard_intelikey: ddos? bruteforce?04:28
intelikeywizard_ what a lot of folks don't seem to grasp when i tell them that there is no  suid here is that only a root console session started by init   can do anything  adminestrative.04:28
intelikeywizard_   bruteforce  yeah04:28
pwn4tt4ckcan someone explain ddos attacks to me? Is it just when you overflood the server with packets until it shuts down?04:28
wizard_intelikey: lol brute force should be an executable legal offense04:29
wizard_hang brute forcers until their feet quit kickin'04:29
pwn4tt4cklol04:29
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angasulepwn4tt4ck: well, I've never had to do that, there might be a guide somewhere to do it, just make sure your brother's account doesn't have sudo access (or else he'll be able to change the system and do as he wants)04:29
smaxwhat are the keystrokes to navigate between workspaces04:29
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pwn4tt4ckangasule: thank you04:29
angasulepwn4tt4ck: a DoS is a denial of service, so yes, just flooding someone is a DoS, DDoS is a distributed DoS, which means many computers flood the target, so that it's harder to block the attack04:30
pwn4tt4ckoh ok04:30
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intelikeyangasule sudo can be setup so that they can only do very specific things as root.    i.e.   mount and umount      or start / restart a network connection...04:31
angasuleintelikey: ah, I never checked how to do fine grained control, I only admin the family computer and my own so I have had no need04:32
intelikeyif ubuntu would properly setup the sudoers file it would be very secure.  but the way it is now it's just root jr.04:32
wizard_microsux also claims to have the original patent to sudo04:32
pwn4tt4ckmicrosh_t claims a lot of stuff, wizard_04:33
pwn4tt4ckThey also claim to be the most secure OS out there :\04:33
wizard_windows is the most secure...04:34
wizard_as long as it never goes online04:34
wizard_;-)04:34
intelikeyangasule no need ?   hmmm.  well on the family box  you could setup sudo for the other user to be able to do the most common sudo tasks but have a very secure passwd on the root jr. account.   that would improve security by a magnatude04:34
soulriderwizard_: i cant believe how they claim parts of the kernel were stolen from htem04:35
intelikeywizard_ hmmm how is windows more secure if not on line than linux when not on line ?04:35
soulridertheya re so desperate not to loose customers04:35
wizard_intelikey: lol04:35
wizard_intelikey: who said take linux offline?04:35
wizard_linux belongs online04:35
wizard_windows doesn't04:35
intelikeysame guy that said use windows04:36
intelikey?04:36
intelikey:)04:36
soulriderim tyring to convert a couple of my classmates to linux04:36
soulrideria ctually managed to get one04:36
smax04:36
angasuleintelikey: what common sudo tasks? they have never needed sudo so far04:36
soulriderbut, the liveCD i gave hi was scratched and wouldnt install04:37
soulriderso i hope he doesnt decide to go back to windows before i give him a new CD04:37
intelikeyangasule what have you had to do as admin ?04:37
intelikeythose things.04:37
smaxlogout04:37
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soulrideri wish there was better documentation and help for newbie sin spanish04:38
intelikeysoulrider i don't think i have ever "tried" to get someone to use linux.   but just the statement "what's a computer virus?"   sure does get their attention.04:39
angasuleintelikey: update the system and install apps, only I do that, and I never use that computer unless asked to perform those tasks, the password is a combination of uppercase, lowercase, numbers and symbols, as all my other passwords04:39
angasulesoulrider: where are you from? or what dialect of spanish do you speak?04:39
soulriderangasule: im from Uruguay, no dialect04:39
pwn4tt4ckwizard_: windows is the most secure so long as there are no plugs running from the machine at all, no cables, its off, and its in the middle of a concrete room with no entrance or exit. Then it is the most secure04:40
soulriderlol pwn4tt4ck04:40
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angasulesoulrider: of course it's a dialect :) I'm from Bahia Blanca, Argentina :)04:40
intelikeyjust being a combo means little.  how big of a combo makes worlds of differance.    admin account on the box i built for my mother is 65 char passwd04:40
soulrider:O04:40
angasulepwn4tt4ck: and remove all removable storage drives, too, just in case ;)04:41
intelikeythis box doesn't have any access to the admin acount.04:41
pwn4tt4ckyou know what, angasule, just leave it in the damn box lol04:41
pwn4tt4ckand toss it in the ocean04:41
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angasuleintelikey: well, that computer is off most of the time and it's behind a hardware router that forwards no ports to it, so it's safe enough for a family computer, I'd say :)04:42
wizard_pwn4tt4ck: i wasn't being serious04:42
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intelikeypwn4tt4ck ^^ again i ask why would windows be any more secure in that mistical environment than linux would ?04:42
wizard_the only windows box i own is named Wintendo04:42
wizard_pwn4tt4ck: so what do you think i use it for04:42
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soulriderlol wizard_04:43
intelikeyangasule i'd agree.04:43
pwn4tt4ckwizard_ I know. I was joking about all of that, because truthfully no system is safe04:43
pwn4tt4ckbbs04:43
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wizard_in the fair justification if windows04:43
wizard_they've never said04:43
wizard_"safest OS ever"04:43
Vuen_hey guys, i have kaddressbook installed, why isn't it in my K menu? am i supposed to run it from inside some larger application?04:43
wizard_they've advertised04:43
wizard_"safest windows version yet!"04:44
wizard_or "safest windows yet!"04:44
rcrookdoes anyone know how to set the yahoo preferences in kopete? things like ban list etc?04:44
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dopeif i have an away msg up in kopete and i'm talking to someone how do i have it not spam the person periodically with my away msg?04:47
intelikeyVuen_ idk.  i have a menu entry in  kmenu > debian > apps > viewers > kaddressbook.04:47
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intelikeyset it to not announce away04:48
intelikeyVuen_ sorry its     kmenu > debian > apps > tools > kaddressbook.04:49
dopewhere's that04:49
intelikeydope idk i saw kopete one time.04:49
dope:/04:49
intelikeydidn't like it04:49
intelikeykinda like i did amarok04:49
intelikeysaw it one time04:50
intelikeysaw xmms a couple of times   don't like it either.04:50
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draikHello everyone04:51
intelikeyshalom04:52
draikI am attempting to get my GRUB back from wherever it's gone04:52
draikI am following an online instruction that I found regarding doing the install again, but this time, DON'T FORMAT THE DRIVE04:52
draikbut for some strange reason, it's giving me the partition as logical04:53
draikI set hda6 as "/" and it says that I have to set a partition as "/" before I can continue04:53
draikany ideas?04:53
intelikeyroot /dev/hda604:54
intelikey?04:54
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draik?04:54
draik???04:54
intelikeyis that from the grub prompt ?04:55
draikI'm on the live cd trying to run the install again, but I cannot04:55
draikcannot continue.04:55
draikI am manually setting up the partitions04:56
draikwell, not setting them up. They have already been setup before04:56
draikI am doing the whole process except for the formatting04:56
draikI place hda6 as my root "/" and I get this error message...04:57
draikNo root file system04:57
intelikeyoh you are talking about the installer on the live CD   i wouldn't use the installer.       maybe mount your install partition and chroot in run grub-install /dev/hda6  or (0,5)   or what ever grub uses  ?04:57
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draikI have attempted that and also using the SGD04:58
draiknothing04:58
draikwould you know how to use grub?04:58
intelikeyi absolutely HATE passionately the live CD installer.04:58
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draikI'm just about getting to that point04:58
Vuen_intelikey: i don't have the debian menu in my k menu. in fact i don't really want the debian menu in my k menu.04:59
intelikeydraik actually i did a very little playing with it when i had some partitions   but i don't know much at all about grub.04:59
Vuen_is this just ubuntu's fault that they didn't bother to add it in there?04:59
draikintelikey: It's ok. I will find out... somehow04:59
intelikeyVuen_ mmm don't want the debian menu ?05:00
Vuen_not really05:00
Vuen_i want my k menu to be very clean05:00
rcrookanyone know what program I can use to record video from my webcam?05:00
intelikeyVuen_ anyway.  i don't know why kde didn't add it.  or where it should have.05:00
Vuen_hmph :(05:00
Vuen_well whatever05:00
Vuen_i don't really care about kde 3.5 anymore. i'm salivating over kde405:01
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Vuen_i can't wait until it comes out, oh GOD it's gonna be awesome05:01
angasuleVuen_: sometimes if you restart it'll show up, I don't know exactly what must be restarted (I boot my computer at least once a day)05:01
Vuen_hmph.05:01
intelikeyi could hardly care less if there is ever a new kde05:02
intelikeyif it aint broke, don't fix it.05:02
niroxxdoes somebody of you know a good ip range scanner?05:02
Vuen_hehe05:02
Vuen_qt4 is ported to windows05:02
angasuleintelikey: have you seen Qt4? so much nicer!05:02
Vuen_when amarok on kde4 comes out, i will not rest until every single windows friend i have is using amarok05:03
intelikeyangasule no.   but nicer how ?    eye candy ?05:03
intelikeyblah.05:03
intelikeyniroxx nmap05:03
niroxxnmap can only scan one ip :( @intelikey05:03
angasuleintelikey: probably, but I haven't checked that, I meant it's modular and nicer to program with05:04
intelikeyniroxx and nmapfe05:04
angasuleintelikey: in particular, the program I'm writing now will be a *ton* easier with qt405:04
soulriderdoes anyone know if theres a clone of Dr. Mario available? im addicted to that game :P05:04
Vuen_After you have started KAddressBook (either using the panel menu05:04
Vuen_what's the panel menu?05:04
niroxxintelikey: the gui also can only scan one ip05:05
murchadh`intelikey: You don't use erc for this lark do you? Just wondering!05:05
draikI'm all out of ideas. Anybody else?05:05
intelikeymurchadh` ?05:06
intelikeyerc ?05:06
intelikeyah  erc - an Emacs IRC client05:06
intelikeyno05:06
murchadh`intelikey: Sorry! It's an irc client for emacs.05:07
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intelikey:)05:07
murchadh`intelikey: Yeah, just wondering, you being a shell kinda guy!05:07
intelikeyi'm not an emacser tho05:07
murchadh`intelikey: Didn't know if you emacsed though. Cool!05:08
angasuleme neither, vim for the win :)05:08
unix_infidelanyone here running some sata hardware raid controllers (pci-x)?05:08
rcrookok... where do you find the user menu config file?05:08
murchadh`angasule: I'm not gonna bite. Just installed i05:09
intelikeyvim to place     echo and sed  real geeks edit with them.05:09
rcrookthe Kmenu config05:09
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murchadh`erc and it's cool. oops05:09
murchadh`intelikey: I wrote a note taking script with echo! hehe05:10
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family_I'm having problems getting an mp3 player working with gnomad2 on Edgy.  Might anyone here be willing to help with brainstorming or trying solutions?05:13
murchadh`angasule: I'm sure vim is powerful too, I used it for editing config files for years, but a friend got me interested in emacs. Installed it the other day, got the characters I need working, edit's my wiki and earlier on I got it doing IRC and jabber! I'm impressed. Haven't done a startx in a while!05:13
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intelikeyrcrook  : > bob ;kmenuedit ;find ./ -anewer bob         and when the menueditor pops up change something and close it.05:14
angasulemurchadh`: well, I believe in KISS, one app does one job and does it well, to chat in a text editor is heresy :P05:15
intelikeyguess we all got spamed with that one.... :)05:15
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draikWell I'm back and I'm logged in using SGD05:16
intelikeyangasule yeah   you tell em'     and read the man page on the in knoqueror while your at it...  hehhe05:16
murchadh`angasule: Heehe! To call emacs a text editor is heresy to many!05:16
angasulemurchadh`: so what should I call it? a finger puzzle? :P05:17
intelikeymurchadh`   sic'em05:17
angasuleintelikey: I love konqueror :)05:17
family_I've not done much fancy with emacs, but when I had to do a lot of coding for my thesis, I decided to learn emacs:  never regretted it once.05:18
intelikeyangasule don't dubble talk me on that.  konqueror is the farthest thing form  KISS  that linux knows.....05:18
murchadh`angasule: Many people use it as a desktop. Apparently it can do anything. And whilst I love konqueror, it ain't KISS.05:19
intelikeywell emacs is an os not an editor     or should i say a platform05:19
slougi_emacs could also be described as one of the most complete IDEs05:19
slougi_although I am a vim fan myself05:20
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intelikeyi've played games in emacs a couple of times thats about all i've ever done with it  but i know it's not just an editor.      actually i'm not sure vim qualifies as 'just an editor' anymore05:21
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slougithere's pretty few editors that are 'just' editors05:22
slougipico and nano come close to that05:22
draikWhat is the equivalence to m$ Frontpage in linux?05:22
slougiyou could try nvu I guess05:23
slougi!nvu05:23
ubotunvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0final-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 8373 kB, installed size 26448 kB05:23
intelikey!quanta05:23
ubotuquanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2361 kB, installed size 5700 kB05:23
Murchadh!bluefish05:23
ubotubluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-1 (edgy), package size 1568 kB, installed size 6728 kB05:23
intelikey!screem05:23
ubotuscreem: A GNOME website development environment. In component main, is optional. Version 0.16.1-3.1build1 (edgy), package size 2068 kB, installed size 7688 kB05:23
CSonicGo!AIM05:24
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.05:24
intelikeydueling bots anyone ?05:24
draikI wish05:24
CSonicGowhy does gaim still have *censored* DIRECT IM support?05:24
CSonicGoit's horrible and it never works for me.05:24
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family_soulrider: Thanks for your repository help a couple of days ago.  Definitely some learning went on.05:24
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hepmeis there a good voice recognition software for KDE? (preferably as good as somethin like Dragon Natural Speech, that lets you talk to kde apps05:25
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soulridergrat family_05:26
soulridercould you solve your problems ?05:26
intelikeyi heard someone say "if you give a guy a fish, he eats for a day.  if you teach i guy to fish, he'll eat for a life time"   but if you use the latter approach the guy will take your fishing pool away and you will never get to fish again.....05:26
family_soulrider:  Solved some of them.  Current problems are (primary) getting Creative Zen V working (with gnomad), and (2ry) getting sound & plug-ins to work.05:27
intelikeyhepme festival   don't know how good it is.05:27
soulrideri cant help you with the zen problem05:28
soulriderand what plugins are you trying to get to work ?05:28
draikhepme: I have been looking for something like what you're after. Voice Recognition05:29
intelikey!sound05:29
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin05:29
draikI want something that I can just say something (command) and my computer will do it05:29
family_soulrider: Understand.  I've been working with it most of the day (almost beddie-bye time now), and going in circles.  I've posted on the kubuntu edgy hardware forum; perhaps a kind soul with more ability than I have will help there.05:31
angasuledraik: most such programs are terrible, I had one set up to handle my music player, frankly, I prefer the keyboard05:31
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family_intelikey: Thanks for the bot reference; I've been doing searches and whatnot, but haven't encountered those two links as of yet.05:32
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draikangasule: I have a media keyboard. I just want something that can talk back as well05:33
family_(Something about getting a wife's Christmas present to work that sets priorities . . . )05:33
hepmewhich vim should i get for the gvim (graphical vim)? vim-gtk?05:33
angasuledraik: talk back? I think KDE includes a speech engine or something05:34
draikangasule: do tell...05:34
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soulriderfamily_: maybe you can get support from the product manufacturer.. ?05:35
sockethow to configure xgl under kubuntu?05:35
soulrider!xgl05:35
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:35
angasuledraik: that's all I know, sorry :)05:36
angasule!speech05:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about speech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:36
max_what is the name of the program that  draws the icons on the desktop in kubuntu05:36
socketthanks - will go through the urls05:36
max_socket: why XGL and not AIGLX?05:37
K`zananyone know how to get rid of that "universal side bar"?  TIA05:37
socketmax_ - is ALGLX good over XGL?05:37
family_From Creative?  Perhaps:  I have sent them an email (yesterday).  It goes to show ya that one should read the small print, which points out that the device *only* works on Windoze XP !!!!   Not even other MSWin systems!!  (Something to do with mtp, which is why gnomad should work.)05:37
max_socket: i think so, its faster and builtin to edgy05:38
socketok, how do i activate the same05:38
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intelikeyfamily_ in linux it's always best to search your distros packages first.    apt-cache search <any string to look for>        and if you see something that looks interesting   apt-cache show <that package name>    for more details.     or use adept to thumb through them.05:38
max_whats your graphics card?05:38
socketi have a Centrino laptop intel graphics chipset05:39
max_lemme get you a link hold on05:39
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familyintelikey: I've become very, very familiar with the  /aptitude search/ command today---as well as the install and remove subcommands.  :-/05:39
intelikeyk05:39
soulriderfamily: i hope you became familiar in a nice way :P05:40
soulriderwhile doing nice stuff :P05:40
max_socket: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy do that then use the beryl wiki05:40
max_what is the name of the program that  draws the icons on the desktop in kubuntu05:40
socketok05:40
familyintelikey: Also using adept has helped in looking at versions.  I tried to put a good explanation in the kubuntu forum Edgy Hardwares section; we'll see.05:40
socketthanks05:40
familysoulrider: Oh, yes, in a v-e-r-y nice way.05:41
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hepmeumm kde just crashed on me hardcore, to the point where ctrl+alt+backspace or nothin but powering off my computer mangually would work :| that's unacceptible as it's 2007, not 1997... i was liking kde too. second time this happened within 2 hours. is there anyway i can just disable kde from loading when i start kubuntu. so i can have the GUI be optional?05:41
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socketi had some issues with both (AIGLX and XGL) on Ubuntu, let me try on kubuntu05:41
max_are you in dapper or edgy?05:41
intelikeyhepme yeah in 1997 that kinda thing didn't happen05:42
socketi am using edgy05:42
hepmewhat kinda thing didnt happen05:42
socketi have installed both ubuntu and kubuntu on the same root partition05:42
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Hobbseehepme: select "console login" at the login screen05:43
intelikeyhepme yes to answer your Q    remove the symlink in /etc/rc2.d/??kdm      and it wont start the gui at boot time.05:43
hepmethanks05:43
intelikeythere is a script made to  do that    update-rc.d05:43
hepmehow can i tell if fb-con is enabled05:44
intelikeylsmod ?05:44
socketmax - i have a Intel 855GM chipset05:44
socketdo AIGLX or XGL support this chipset?05:44
max_yes, i have a older chipset than that05:46
intelikeytina=this is not an acronym    hehhe   some people...05:46
max_845G05:46
socketok, then, let me give a shot again, and will let you know the same05:46
semu<semu>osaako kukaan suomea...05:47
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max_what is the name of the program that  draws the icons on the desktop in kubuntu05:47
intelikeywell i'm went.05:47
angasulemax_: superkaramba?05:50
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max_angasule: im positive its not that05:51
max_the desktop manager? i need to know its name05:51
matthew_KDE05:52
matthew_actually, KDM05:52
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max_thank you05:52
Hobbseemax_: kdesktop?05:52
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Hobbseekdesktop is the one that does the background, the icons, etc05:53
jpiccoloanyone know what would make azureus freeze?05:53
soulriderjpiccolo: azureus has some abd memory leaks05:54
soulrideri suggest you use utorrent with wine05:54
soulriderit sounds like a bad idea, but its hte best alternative there is05:54
slougiktorrent is decent nowadays05:54
jpiccolowell i was liking az05:54
soulriderslougi: still sint good enough05:54
jpiccolobut now it wont start right05:54
jpiccoloit loads but then stops responding05:55
Daisuke_Idoplus to utorrent being "acquired"05:55
Daisuke_Idofuture linux version05:56
Daisuke_Idobut that's about it :\05:56
matthew_jpiccolo, you need to be on the desktop that azureus is loading on for azureus to completely load its gui05:56
jpiccoloi am05:56
Daisuke_Idoi'm just settling for ktorrent for now until something better comes along05:57
jpiccoloi completed a download05:57
jpiccolostart to do its checksum05:57
jpiccolothen froze05:57
jpiccolonow wont work05:57
matthew_jpiccolo, weird...05:57
jpiccolohow would i kill java05:57
jpiccoloi wonder if a restart will help out05:59
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=== flaccid drinks hoegaarden
jontecmy video card supports an extended desktop, how do I do it in linux? I'd really like to have my console on the other monitor06:02
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jpiccolohow would i save everything in firefox06:04
flaccidjontec: dual display06:04
draikjpiccolo: Save what?06:04
flaccid?06:04
draikbookmarks?06:04
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jpiccololike passwords and bookmarks06:05
jontecflaccid: well... I mean having the desktop extended over two monitors06:05
flaccid!dual06:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:05
draikbackup the following /home/jpiccolo/.mozilla/firefox06:05
flaccidjontec: nv or ati?06:05
jontecflaccid: ati06:05
flaccidjontec: do you have dual display option in system settings ?06:06
jontecflaccid: I haven't tried... I didn't know where to start... let's see (and plug in the other monitor)06:07
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flaccidjontec: check if you already can in kcontrol -> monitor and display. if that doesn't work try http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22117406:09
jpiccoloanyone running feisty herd106:09
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Admiral_Chicagojpiccolo: i am in my room at school06:09
Admiral_Chicagocheck out #ubuntu+106:10
jpiccolohave any problems with it?06:10
jontecflaccid: um.. well I just plugged in the monitor and the monitor is black... (I don't have the option at the moment) umm... should I restart or should I press my monitor toggle button (which presently doesn't work... it's a Fn + key)06:10
Admiral_Chicagono06:10
jpiccoloadmiral, faster than drapper?06:11
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flaccidjontec: ^^06:12
flaccidum where do you go to change resolution in edgy?06:12
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jontecflaccid: should it work immediately after I plug in the monitor?06:13
flaccidjontec: no did you even check system settings - display?06:14
jontecflaccid: I did.06:14
jontecflaccid: it's greyed out06:14
flaccidcould you enable more than 1 monitor there?06:14
flaccidjontec: click administator mode06:14
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jontecflaccid: I'm there.... hey... should I change anything on the hardware tab?06:16
flacciddon't change the drivers yet just enable a second display and see if it works after restarting x06:19
flaccidgood idea to backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf first as well06:19
jontecflaccid: are we restarting x from command line? (I need a command, then :D)06:21
jontecflaccid: and how do I enable the second06:21
jontec?06:21
flaccidjontec: no just logout and then select restart x server from kdm06:21
jontecflaccid: wait I didn't even see the check box to enable the second display06:22
flaccidif you cannot add another monitor, follow the forum post06:22
ZeroSystemhello i want to know how come i cant enable my wireless adapter ?06:23
flaccid!wireless06:23
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:23
flaccidZeroSystem: check the wifidocs06:23
ZeroSystemok thanks06:23
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flaccidnp06:23
jontecflaccid: I'm sorry. :D I can enable it. wow. Okay, when I go to apply it, it says that it hasn't been tested with this video card and such. (I have no ati drivers installed, would that be necessary?)06:24
flaccidwhat driver are you using atm, jontec?06:25
jontecflaccid: whatever came installed... on the hardware tab it says plug n play for both monitors06:25
flaccidwhat does it say for driver of the video card?06:26
jontecflaccid: oh, sorry. the driver just says ati, like the name O_o06:27
flaccidthats the OS driver. you can use that or the prop. driver06:28
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pwn4tt4ckwhats up?06:31
jontecflaccid: okay, one more question before I apply it.... ummm I don't understand this 1 left of 2 and such. When I try to resize monitor 1 (I assume that's the monitor I am using now), the size of monitor 2 decreases significantly... my laptop is a widescreen, but my flat panel is not. O_o (Is this not important? are we just trying to see if it works?)06:31
K`zanHow does one get rid of the missing kwallet message when starting and ending kmail - I don't want it and am TIRED of being nagged about it.  TIA!06:31
pwn4tt4ckjontec fowlduck: whats up guys! Hey, if I click 'setup outlook' will it set up evolution instead?06:32
flaccidjontec: yeah try it. basically dual display sux on linux. you have to set it up manually 9/10 times.06:32
jontecflaccid: okay06:32
jontecflaccid: it said that it was trying it and... the other monitor stayed BLACK.06:33
jontecpwn4tt4ck: ? I have no idea what you're talking about :D06:33
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flaccidtry the manual set up06:34
K`zanDisregard Last (RTFM works :-).06:35
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dopehow do i get the icons in the taskbar to form up in columns.  they used to but not anymore06:36
ZeroSystemhello i checked the network site but there this problem is not mentioned "the network card gets disabled even though it is recognixed06:36
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ny0nanyone around?06:37
jontecflaccid: I also tried cloning my main monitor and that failed as well... all that I got was a primitive white and black checkered screen with an x as my mouse (I remember this from SuSE, when KDE started up)06:37
dopenm06:37
jontecflaccid: I exited with ctl + alt + f706:37
ny0ni just installed kubuntu on my desktop computer, can anyone help me get it to work with wireless internet06:37
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dopehow do i get something to run at startup06:38
pwn4tt4ckjontec: I meant like... there is a button my server that says 'setup outlook' and I was wondering, since I have evolution instead of outlook, if I click that button to set up my mail on outlook, will it set it up on evolution or just throw up an error?06:38
ny0ni just installed kubuntu on my desktop computer, can anyone help me get it to work with wireless internet06:38
ZeroSystemny0n is your card recognized ?"06:39
ny0ni'm not sure06:39
ny0nit's a linksys06:40
ny0nit should be supported06:40
ZeroSystemcheck it at network settins06:40
ny0ni'm in network settings, am i looking for anything specific06:41
dopehow do i get something to run at startup06:41
ZeroSystemright click the network06:41
ZeroSystemand put a tick on that options06:41
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Hueyis there really no way to switch between dual-monitor mode and single-monitor mode without restarting X?06:42
ny0nunder available network interfaces i see two, eth0 (regular ethernet) and eth1 there is a red X next to it and it says "Disabled Wireless Network Device"06:42
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ny0nhow can i enale it06:43
ny0nenable*06:43
ZeroSystemright click enable06:43
dopehow do i get something to run at startup06:43
ZeroSystemif it doesnt get enabled you have the same as my problem that i dont know how to solve ;.;06:43
ny0nhehe06:43
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dopeanyone06:44
max_!flash06:44
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:44
ZeroSystemdope what do you want to enable ?06:44
dopeyakuake06:44
ZeroSystemi dont know it ><06:44
Jucato!kcontrol-autostart06:44
ubotukcontrol-autostart: autostart module for KDE control center. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 268 kB06:44
Jucato^^^^06:45
nixternaldope, start up yakuake once, and leave it alone, it will then start up everytime06:45
Jucatoyep06:45
nixternalyou don't need to do anything special06:45
dopei don't have kubuntu load my last session06:45
jontecpwn4tt4ck: I'd say it depends on how it sets up outlook06:45
jontecpwn4tt4ck: what does the link go to?06:45
jontecpwn4tt4ck: oh it's a button06:45
nixternaldope: doesn't matter, if you shutdown with yakuake running, it is stored in the session and will start up every time until you close it06:45
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Jucatodope: <apt> To start a program or set an environment variable at KDE login, see: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id256027306:46
Rob-Westdoes anyone have a space PC06:46
Jucatonixternal: I think he means that he set Kubuntu *not* to restore from the previous session06:46
nixternali don't know what it is, so i guess i don't have a space pc06:46
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nixternalahh06:47
ny0nwhen i enable it it turns back into disabled after afew seconds06:47
ny0n:(06:47
dopei got that kcontrol-autostart06:47
dopenow what06:47
jontecpwn4tt4ck: I'll be right back I have to logoff06:48
slougihmm for me yakuake starts automatically on login without any setup06:48
Jucatodope: it will be in kcontrol or system settings, afaik06:48
Jucato(to launch kcontrol, press Alt+F2 and type in kcontrol)06:48
Rob-Westdoes anyone have a computer there not using06:49
Jucatodope: you can read the link that <apt> gave for manual instructions, just in case06:49
ny0nzero you around?06:49
Jucatoslougi: that's because you have KDE setup to restore from previous session. dope (and I) don't06:49
slougiRob-West: I have a 486 :] 06:49
slougiJucato: possible06:49
dwidmann|sleepRob-West: do virtual machines count?06:50
nixternalslougi: that's what it is, because it is the same for me06:50
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slougiok06:50
Rob-Westslougi is it in use06:50
nixternali have a few computers im currently not using. only use them for test builds and bug work06:50
ny0nhey zerosystem06:50
nixternali went to school with a Rob West, your not from carol stream are you :)06:51
slougiRob-West: no06:51
dopeok i think i found it06:51
dopebrb06:51
Rob-Westslougi where r u from06:51
prakis anyone familiar with the dialling stuff with minicom?06:52
slougiRob-West: finland06:52
Rob-Westto far06:52
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slougikinda suspected that06:52
nixternalRob-West: im in chicago, what do you need?06:52
nixternalyou are across the big pond it seems06:53
Rob-Westno im in michigan06:53
nixternalkzoo06:53
nixternalim from the area06:53
nixternaloriginally06:53
Rob-Westdo u have a real pc or just virtual ones06:53
nixternalreal and virtual06:53
Rob-Westi kinda want a spare one to play with06:54
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nixternali hear you there. might be cheaper to hit up craigslist or ebay06:54
nixternalsince i got this laptop, i only use them to break now :)06:54
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Rob-Westhow do i access craigslist06:56
nixternalare you in kzoo?06:56
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Rob-Westwell near there06:56
nixternalhttp://geo.craigslist.org/iso/us/mi06:56
nixternalim from benton harbor :)06:57
Rob-Westr u black06:57
nixternalhahahaha06:57
nixternalno06:57
Jucatolol06:57
nixternalwhy is it when i tell people that, that is the first question they ask06:57
Rob-Westu live in Benton Harbor michigan06:57
nixternalhttp://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/06:57
nixternali live in chicago now :)06:57
nixternali used to live in watervliet06:57
nixternalif you ever heard of that06:57
nixternalim sure you have06:58
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crazy_busIs there a quick way to check what version of the Nvidia binary drivers you are using?07:00
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Jucatonvidia-settings07:00
crazy_busthank you.  I can't believe I didnt think of it :)07:01
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dopeok still can't do it07:01
Jucatoif you installed the driver from Nvidia.com... I don't think it has an nvidia-settings07:01
Jucatodope: simplest way, make a link to the yakuake executable (/usr/bin/yakuake) in ~/.kde/Autostart07:02
dopecrap07:02
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dopei messed soemthing up, sda1 isn't windows anymore07:02
dopeit's just blank07:02
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sUpERhow do i install kplayer07:04
ny0ncan anyone help me get wireless internet working on kubuntu07:04
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fowlduckyo yo yo07:05
sockethi max07:05
mdsny0n: have you tried knetworkmanager?07:05
socketi have installed alglx07:06
socketnow how do i test the same?07:06
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socket__anyone, how do i test AIGLX on my desktop??07:07
ny0ni don't have knetworkmanager07:07
sUpERanyone knows how to install kplayer?07:07
prakis anyone familiar with the dialling stuff with minicom?07:07
ny0ncan i get it working without knetworkmanager?07:07
prakis anyone familiar with the dialling stuff with minicom?07:09
pwn4tt4ckis jontec back?07:10
pwn4tt4ckfowlduck: hey, ok I gotta leave07:10
pwn4tt4ckjontec left07:10
pwn4tt4ckomg07:10
fowlducklater07:10
pwn4tt4ckok later guys have a good night, I might be on around 2 or 407:10
pwn4tt4ckor 3*07:10
ZeroSystemif the wireless card id disabled does that mean its not recognized properly ?07:13
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ny0nzerosystem, i don't know07:16
ny0ndid it ever do that to you07:16
ny0nyou enable it and it disables by itself07:16
ZeroSystemit is doing it now07:16
ZeroSystemya07:16
ZeroSystemit is always like that07:16
ny0nhmm07:16
ZeroSystem2 days trying to fix it07:17
ny0ni'm on a laptop with kubuntu07:17
ny0nwireless is working (i cam here and someone helped me)07:17
ny0ni installed kubuntu on my desktop like an hour ago07:17
ZeroSystemhow did it work ?07:17
ny0ni forget07:17
ny0nsomeone in here took me through it step by step07:17
ny0nand it worked07:17
ZeroSystemdid you have that problem at first ?07:17
ny0ni don't think so07:18
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ZeroSystemwhat was the problem ?07:18
ny0nit just wasn't working07:18
ny0nthis was a long time ago07:18
ZeroSystemi c07:19
ny0nsomeone help me and zerosystem07:19
ny0nsetup wifi07:19
ny0n:] 07:19
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ZeroSystemcould it be a bug in kubuntu 6.10?07:21
ny0nmayhbe07:21
ny0nmaybe*07:21
ny0ni'll probably be back later07:22
ny0n:)07:22
ZeroSystemme to07:22
ZeroSystemif you get anyhelp at it tell me07:22
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plutoCan someone tell me what could cause linux to stop allowing me to burn CDs?07:31
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lovlossi just switched to kubuntu from ubuntu :) what should i know?07:32
MistaEDeverything has a k in it07:33
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lovlosslol. i mean, will i have many compatibility issues?07:33
MistaEDi don't think so, i've changed over today as well07:34
lovlossHow come i cant find anything in the packages? there's only about 4 listed programs07:34
MistaEDoh yeah i've chosen to ignore adept and just use synaptic07:35
lovloss*shiver* thats a bit more comlex07:36
lovlosshow well does kde run gnome stuff07:38
plutoI'm here..07:41
plutojust to say I am :p07:41
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lovloss:D07:42
lovlossits quiet07:42
plutoLOL, yeah I know.. no troubleshooting help in here today07:42
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lovlosshey, howcome i cant install kdevelope :(07:42
lovlossits faded in adept07:42
plutoThat I wouldn't know.. have you tried from console?07:43
lovlossi suppose i may have to use console....07:43
plutoIts easier IMO. Less headache with graphics07:44
lovlosshmm i havent installed anything yet07:44
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lovlosswhat were the apt-gets for proprietary file formats?07:45
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lovlossoh iu havent updated @.@07:47
lovlossgavin... you go to mtsu perchance?07:48
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lovlossguess not07:49
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hepmewhat dir should i install tarbars i compile myself? like say for flash stand alone player07:50
freerideello all07:51
freeridewhats up07:51
crimsunerr, there's no reason to use a tarball of flash 9 beta; we've backported it from feisty to both dapper and edgy07:53
crimsunsee dapper-backports and edgy-backports, respectively07:53
crimsun!flashplugin-nonfree edgy-backports07:53
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)07:53
crimsun!flashplugin-nonfree dapper-backports07:54
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.21.78.2ubuntu1~dapper1 (dapper-backports), package size 12 kB, installed size 100 kB (Only available for i386)07:54
hepmei want to see flash movies from the console though, looks like i need libflash-swfplayer07:54
Rob-Westanyone here in the US07:55
freerideyeah, I am07:55
Rob-Westwell someone close to michigan07:55
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freeridelol, why, you need in home tech support?07:55
freerideis it really that bad?07:55
Rob-Westim looking for a cheap computer that will run ubuntu07:55
Rob-Westno im looking for a second PC07:56
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freerideyou can get a new one from dell for like 300 bucks man07:56
burrylis there anyway to watch videos online that require window media player plugin?07:56
Rob-Westi can only do like 30 bucks tops07:57
burryldain, my graphics card is 300 bucks, that sucks =(07:57
borkim in the us too07:57
freeride30 bucks should cover the shipping charges07:57
Rob-Westthats the problem07:57
burryland the plastic casing..07:57
burryl=)07:57
burrylwas joking07:57
Rob-Westcuz thats all i got07:57
Rob-Westwell actually 20 bucks07:57
freeridedamn man, you need a job more than you need a computer07:58
burrylwhat are u trying to do, i just got here =)07:58
Rob-Westminus 3$07:58
Rob-Westim looking for a older PIII or PII something that will run Ubuntu and fair speed07:58
freeridelmao, for 20 bucks?07:58
burrylare u not in the us or someting?07:58
Rob-Westim in the US07:59
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freeridedood, good luck with that07:59
burryl20 bucks?07:59
borkme too07:59
freerideI'll take 3 of them at taht price :-p07:59
burrylask ur parents for more money =) that's what i do lol07:59
borkfair use rights07:59
freerideI'll fill a whole room with 200mhz pentium ubuntu boxes :-D07:59
freeridelmao08:00
Rob-Westmy mom wont give me cash08:00
freeridelike I said, you need a job way more than you need a computer08:00
Rob-Westim to young for a job08:00
freeridemow some lawns or shovel some snow or whatever they do in mi08:01
burrylu don't need cash, just the credit card number..08:01
freeridehaha!08:01
burryl=)08:01
freerideand it doesnt matter who's number ;-)08:01
freerideany card will do08:02
freeridelol08:02
Rob-Westnah im good08:02
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Rob-Westim looking for a older PIII or PII something that will run Ubuntu and fair speed but i have no money08:04
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lovlosshow come i cant find almost any packages?08:08
lovlosskdev, kleansweep, and so fotrh... all this stuff is missing08:08
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notechprobably your sources list08:10
lovlossi havent done anything to that08:11
TannHow do you setup a wireless network connection in kubuntu08:11
lovlossi just imnstalled08:11
Tannusing ndiswrapper08:11
TannHow do you setup a wireless network connection in kubuntu using kubuntu08:11
Tannoops08:11
TannHow do you setup a wireless network connection in kubuntu using ndiswrapper08:11
Tannthere08:11
Whopperumm08:11
Whopperkonsole08:11
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Whopperhi simone_08:12
lovlossis it because i didnt add the universe package?08:12
Tanno great! not you whopper08:12
Whopperwhat?08:12
Whopperoh lol08:12
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Tann:)08:12
TannHow do you setup a wireless network connection in kubuntu using ndiswrapper08:12
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notechlovloss: you have to uncomment some but i forgot the bots trigger for that08:13
notechlovloss: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/KubuntuStuff/How-Tos08:14
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lovlossfigured it out :D08:15
lovlossthanks ^o^08:15
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TannHello?08:16
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matthew_Tann, what's up?08:16
php-guydoes kubuntu koversation record all files that have been downloadeed? also does kubuntu have a log files of all files that have been on my system,and opened?08:16
TannHow do you setup a wireless network connection in kubuntu using ndiswrapper08:16
matthew_sorry Tann , no clue.08:16
Tannok, thanks for atleast trying08:16
matthew_Tann, once you've got ndiswrapper installed, do         man ndiswrapper08:17
notech!wireless08:17
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:17
php-guydoes kubuntu koversation record all files that have been downloadeed? also does kubuntu have a log files of all files that have been on my system,and opened?08:17
matthew_that should give you a lot of info...08:17
Tannok08:17
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Tannanyone else know08:19
TannHow do you setup a wireless network connection in kubuntu using ndiswrapper08:19
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Whopperphp-guy: yes, it does08:20
php-guywhere at?08:20
php-guydoes kubuntu record files thats been opened somewhere?08:20
Whopperwell, into files you specify08:20
Whopperdefault, idk08:20
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TannI will burn my disk soon08:21
Whopperbut...perhaps search for keywords08:21
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TannI won't install untill tomarrow08:21
Whoppertann: :)08:21
jpiccoloedgy is seeing my array as two seperate drives, why?08:21
Tannwhen i have more resources available in the hous08:21
Tanne08:21
Tannnote: Tann is too lazy to go and turn on the other comp in the house08:22
Whopperlol08:22
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matthew_lol, looks like genii is taking a break from this channel for the holidays.08:25
Whopper:P08:25
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sivaji_2009ple tell me about linux troubleshooting08:35
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matthew_sivaji_2009, what kind of trouble shooting?08:42
matthew_sivaji_2009, you can either google around, post a thread on the forum, or come here. (or ask a friend for help, if you have any who know linux...)08:43
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sivaji_2009just now i installed kubuntu say 30 days but i got too many peoblem08:44
sivaji_2009just now i installed kubuntu say 30 days but i got too many problem08:44
matthew_sivaji_2009, what do you mean? problems with sound? Video? Wireless?08:44
sivaji_2009when file system check fails08:45
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matthew_sivaji_2009, what is your native language? also, for the file system do this         fsck /dev/whatever_device_that_failed_the_check08:46
hepmei cant make del.icio.us buttons in konq? :(08:47
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matthew_sivaji_2009, please keep the conversation in here.08:48
matthew_!ma08:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:48
sivaji_2009ok08:48
matthew_sivaji_2009, the file system check will check your inodes and filesystem structure for errors.08:49
matthew_!marathi08:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about marathi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:49
matthew_sivaji_2009, what language is marathi similar to?08:49
sivaji_2009my file system is normal shall i try this command " fsck /dev/whatever_device_that_failed_the_check "08:50
sivaji_2009hindi08:50
matthew_lol, sivaji_2009, when it says that a device failed a check, which device is it? (hda1, hdb2, etc...)08:50
matthew_!hindi08:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hindi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:51
sivaji_2009hda108:51
sivaji_2009tell me how to partition disk08:51
matthew_sivaji_2009, ok, so reboot and boot into recovery mode. then type in fsck.ext3 /dev/hda108:51
matthew_!qparted | sivaji_200908:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about qparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:51
matthew_!gparted | sivaji_200908:52
ubotusivaji_2009: gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php08:52
matthew_sivaji_2009, you can also you cfdisk /dev/hda to partition from the command line08:52
matthew_Ok, I'm going to go...see you later, sivaji_2009 , I will be back later...08:52
sivaji_2009tell me precisely08:53
matthew_my email is computingsolutionsbiz@gmail.com. Feel free to email me.08:53
sivaji_2009ok bye08:53
matthew_sivaji_2009, sorry I couldn't help more...bye08:53
jpiccolook so i installed dmraid but i still cant see my controller08:55
Admiral_Chicagoit's QTparted for anyone's future reference08:55
flaccidwassupi08:55
flaccidheh ignore me08:55
jpiccoloAdmiral_Chicago, could you help me get my raid controller installed?08:56
Admiral_Chicagojpiccolo: i would try to help, but unfortunetly, it is...08:56
Admiral_Chicago@now Chicago08:56
UbugtuCurrent time in America/Chicago: December 31 2006, 01:56:4308:56
Admiral_Chicagobed time08:56
jpiccoloook08:56
Admiral_Chicagoperhaps in a few hours.08:56
jpiccoloyeah its 3am here08:57
Admiral_ChicagoPensylvania?08:57
jpiccoloyeah08:57
Admiral_Chicagofrom what I understand you need the alternate install CD.08:57
Admiral_Chicago!raid08:58
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO08:58
jpiccolooh ok08:58
Admiral_Chicagoi don't know if you've seen those, anyways good luck08:58
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binkscan someone point me to a howto get a generic mp3 player that is fat16 to mount with permission to write to it please09:02
binksits a matsui09:03
lovloss:< whyyyy does adept package thingy crash every time i load up 'all sweets' and 'unsupported software' together? i wanna browse >.<09:03
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lovloss"all suites" lol09:04
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sivaji_2009my media player does not supports .wmv what should i do to play that file09:07
sivaji_2009keffeine09:07
crimsunI believe kaffeine can utilise w32codecs09:08
sivaji_2009what is that w32codecs09:08
crimsun!restricted |sivaji_200909:08
ubotusivaji_2009: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:08
MistaEDwhy doesn't konqueror render jpg09:09
MistaED*jpg's?09:09
MistaEDis this just my copy or a known thing?09:09
crimsunit renders them fine here.09:10
MistaEDit's rendering them as the win95 jpg icon o_O09:10
sivaji_2009wht is meant by rendering and morphing09:10
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MistaEDsivaji_2009: rendering as in processing/displaying an image on-screen09:11
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sivaji_2009keffeine does not supports .wmv , .avi how to add plugins09:14
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flaccid!wmv09:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:24
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flaccid^^ sivaji_200909:24
sivaji_2009my medila player does not supports .avi and .wmv what should i do09:27
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hepmekde doeesn't come with mplayer by default? should i install 'kmplayer' ? is that like a kde version of mplayer that makes it so you dont have to install gtk or something?09:28
hepmealso which app can i use to stream internet radio from the command line?09:29
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jpiccoloanyone help me with installing on raid09:30
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crazy_busI'm not sure why but all my desktop, icon, this konversation windows fonts have all gone tiny.  Does anyone know why and how to fix it?09:44
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computerwhat games are there in the repos that's cool to get09:46
crazy_busBattle for wesnoth, is great if you don't already have it09:47
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computeryeah i wanted to get that, the newest version, it seemed a little complicated to install09:48
computerbut ill prolly try in a sec09:48
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crazy_busI have to give you a game if you install it09:48
rygdI wasted an entire night to that game when I was moving...didn't have time to waste, either09:49
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computerwhat do u mean09:49
nibihi09:49
nibidoes anyone know how to use cue sheets in amarok09:49
crazy_buscomputer, use this guide to install the 1.2 version of wesnoth.  It worked great for me: http://gaming.gwos.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=6309:49
computercool thx alot09:50
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nibior is amarok lame enough to not support cue09:51
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computerrygd battle of wesnoth work on edgy too right09:53
crazy_busI installed it on edgy09:53
computerwhat about that step where it had some options related to gnome09:54
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crazy_busjust type ./configure instead09:54
computercool09:54
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computero i meant, i'm on kubuntu09:54
computerthat'd work too right09:54
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crazy_busYes ./configure works on kubuntu09:55
sivaji_2009my medila player does not supports .avi and .wmv what should i do09:55
nibiany amarok users here?09:55
rygdcomputer, let me check09:55
rygdI was using dapper at the time09:55
nibino amarokians?09:56
computerrygd: cool thx, it works on edgy too as crazy_bus mentioned =)09:56
rygdok, nevermind09:56
computerthx for looking it up tho :)09:56
computercrazy_bus would the game be ok on kubuntu as well, im a little lazy to google, plus i just finished reading alot of stuff on google, eyes tired hehe09:56
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crazy_busI use kubuntu, and it works fine for me09:57
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computergreat =)09:57
computerthx09:57
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crazy_busjust remember to type ./configure instead09:57
computero and how do u bookmark that page, i right clicked it doesn't give me the option09:57
nibirygd: how do you use cue sheets in amarok?09:57
computerwill remember =) thx09:57
computernvm09:57
computeri just bookmarked09:57
lovlossmy add/remove programs manager crashes when i load "all suites". any solution?09:57
Admiral_Chicagonibi: one here09:58
computerdon't know why it didn't work before but it's ok now09:58
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Admiral_Chicago!restricted | sivaji_200909:58
ubotusivaji_2009: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:58
rygdnibi, don't know, sorry09:58
Admiral_Chicagocue sheets? never heard of them09:58
Admiral_Chicago#amarok might know09:58
nibiok thanks09:58
jpiccoloAdmiral you still here09:59
Admiral_Chicagoyea barely09:59
computero for firefox, why can't i view the online videos requiring wmv and quicktime? i already have win32codec mplayer, kmplayer installed, i am able to watch those videos on konqueror tho, but that's only because the websites like cnn in konqueror can't detect what version wmv i have, but in firefox, it detects that i have no wmv at all09:59
computeris there a way to fix this =)09:59
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Admiral_Chicagocomputer: i think it's a problem with cnn, i've heard problems about cnn specifically10:00
computerAdmiral_Chicago cool, that's good to know, thx for the info :)10:00
Admiral_Chicagocheck mplayer-plugin though10:00
Admiral_Chicagoi think thats what you want10:00
computeri have mozilla-mplayer is that the same thing10:01
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computeri think i installed everything that contained the word mplayer from synaptic10:01
Admiral_Chicagoyea i think thats what you want10:01
computercool thx10:02
Admiral_Chicagoyes it is10:02
computer!xmms10:02
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs10:02
computerthx for confirming for me =)10:02
Admiral_Chicagowell I have to run.10:02
Admiral_Chicagottu all later10:02
computerkk, see ya around10:02
computerthx lates10:02
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jpiccoloanyone use dmraid?10:07
lovlossin kubuntu, how do you install java to work with the web?10:07
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charlie5hi ... any idea's why does ktorrent often d/l's the 1st 99.5% of a torrent and then just stop dead ... ?10:09
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rygdhow long has it been stuck there?10:11
charlie5about an hour ... the 1st part came in a flood now i'm not even sure i'm getting anything10:12
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rygdwhat kind of file is it10:13
charlie5seems to happen a lot ... so i guessed it isn't just a case of a few peers dropping out10:14
rygdlarge like movie or small like a pdf?10:14
charlie5a large .rar10:14
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charlie5it won;t decompress w/o the last few bytes :/10:14
goduloushello please10:15
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godulouswhats up with it?10:15
AtWorsthey10:15
rygdgive it a while...if you can't get the rest of it...well, I dunno10:15
AtWorsthey i had a Q that maybe sum1 cud help me with,10:15
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rygdkeep waiting, I guess...10:15
AtWorstmy MSN isnt working right for sum reason10:15
AtWorstany1 have any ideas?10:15
goduloushelp it me, the install crash :( i need to instALL IT PLEASE THe program.10:16
charlie5rygd: thanks :) ... i'm just whinging i guess ... was half hoping i had missed a setting or something ... but impatience is my main prob ;)10:16
rygdmy guess is the MS portion, but that is just me.10:16
jpiccolocan anyone help with raid10:16
AtWorstOH STFU U LINUX MORONS10:17
godulousyes, raid if you eat call poison control10:17
AtWorstwindows < linux10:17
AtWorstfuckin faggots10:17
godulousbad poison for ants onlu10:17
AtWorstwindows > linux10:17
AtWorstwindows > linux10:17
AtWorstwindows > linux10:17
rygdwell if you keep having the problem you might wanna talk to someone a bit more familiar with it10:17
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rygdI use bittornado with no problems, but sometimes it slows down a lot10:17
crazy_busI installed blender, but I'm not sure where the loading file is stored.  I know the command to run it but Im looking for the actual file to run is?10:17
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AtWorsti have an idea rygd10:17
AtWorstcan u suck my left nut?10:18
burrylwhat...10:18
AtWorstcmmmon10:18
AtWorstplllllleassseee10:18
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AtWorstburryl dont act like u dont know wuts up10:18
AtWorstme and u had some fun the other night aswell10:18
rygdassworst, I was talking to someone else10:18
AtWorstu sucked my dick and call me ur daddy10:18
hepmehow can i run 'gpm' to use my mouse in a console?10:18
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burryllol if u were really my daddy u wouldn't have dare say that10:19
AtWorstit was a role play actually10:19
godulouscan i play? i like game10:19
godulousS10:19
AtWorstyes godulous u can play10:19
rygdhow are you going to come in here and talk shit to everyone and about the operating system this  is set up for and expect help?10:19
burryllol u wouldn't even have dared think about it if u knew how me and my dad is like10:19
AtWorstim sure blurryl will call u daddy aswell, shes a real sweet lady10:19
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AtWorstburryl is a VERY VERY sweet woman10:20
godulouscan please helping with my toaster? it burned my cats10:20
AtWorstand gives a nice blowjob aswell10:20
AtWorstnossir i cant10:20
AtWorstbut burryl can10:20
burryllol he forgot to beat off today and is thinking everything is a girl, go hump on ur mom's leg lol10:20
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AtWorstshes a real sweetheart10:20
burryllike a lil doggie dog =)10:20
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AtWorstburryl is more woman then her mother10:21
AtWorstbut her mother gives a much better blowjob10:21
burrylu know how u typed ur mom's a real sweetheart right after what i said, lol10:21
AtWorstyes10:22
AtWorstshe actually can hold her breath for a long time10:22
burrylthen go hump ur mom's leg like i told u to10:22
AtWorstwhich is nice10:22
burrylmake a video of it and put in on net =)10:22
godulousi had a net once10:22
godulousi catch many surferboardings and eat the fosh.10:22
burrylu sure it wa s a net10:22
AtWorsttheres a video of me and ur mother on youtube.com just search "boy cums down milfs throat"10:22
AtWorstand it will show up10:22
burryllol trying to turn it around eh10:22
AtWorstyes10:23
burrylu know we were talking about atworst's mother lol10:23
AtWorsti am trying to turn around10:23
burrylcheck above10:23
AtWorstactually10:23
AtWorsti cant10:23
AtWorstim sry10:23
AtWorsti cant10:23
AtWorstit is impossible10:23
godulousi like to play it the ping pong. it10:23
AtWorstdid u know u can by an it on the wallmart?10:23
AtWorstexcuse me for a few minutes, im gonna go smoke some herb10:24
AtWorsti got a nice stash of some cooking herbs10:24
AtWorstmakes for a nice high10:24
godulousi have a herb on my garnish yestordoay with my pastagetti.10:24
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Admiral_Chicagooops didn't mean to do that10:25
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Admiral_Chicago!language10:26
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:26
AtWorstFUCK U NIGGER10:27
AtWorstfuck10:27
Admiral_Chicago!ops10:27
AtWorstshit10:27
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist or LjL10:27
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AtWorstteabaggin10:27
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burryli wanna give u op, how do u become op tho10:27
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burrylAdmiral_Chicago how do people become ops10:29
rmarianskihas anybody seen any problems upgrading from dapper -> edgy?10:29
Admiral_Chicagormarianski: i haven't had a problem every updating10:29
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rmarianskiAdmiral_Chicago: are you running edgy or feisty now?10:30
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Admiral_Chicagormarianski: right now? dapper. at my other computer, feisty. before that edgy (all the testing releases)10:30
Admiral_Chicagoso edgy knot 1,2,3 the betas, and hurd1+10:31
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Admiral_Chicagobed now10:32
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crazy_busbye10:33
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rmarianskiAdmiral_Chicago: great ... i'll give upgrading a shot ... good night10:34
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jpiccolocan anyone please help with dmraid10:35
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aleksanterihey i have a thingy again :P i want to install a theme and i got a .desktop file. I understood that i should run it but i got a "No Type= information". What would this be for a KDE theme?10:35
aleksanteriinformation" error. *10:36
sivaji_2009tell me how to partition my hardisk10:36
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sivaji_2009tell me how to partition my hardisk10:38
sivaji_2009tell me how to partition my hardisk10:38
jpiccolouse qtparted10:38
sivaji_2009wht is that10:39
MHKjpiccolo: can use qtparted to partition a harddisk while you are running linux?10:39
aleksanteri!qtparted10:39
ubotuqtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB10:39
aleksanteri!qtparted|sivaji_200910:40
MHK!qtparted|MHK10:40
jpiccolonot on the disk you are booted on10:40
MHKdamned...10:40
aleksanteri!qtparted | sivaji_200910:40
ubotuqtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB10:40
MHKwanted to try gentoo...=)10:40
aleksanteri:P10:40
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MHKqtparted | MHK10:40
jpiccoloyyou can boot to the live cd and change it10:40
jpiccolocan anyone please help with dmraid, my controller is not showing up in /dev/mapper10:41
sivaji_2009how to use debugger dbg10:41
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ZeroSystemhello can someone help me10:42
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ZeroSystemi installed kubunta recently but my wireless adapter keeps being disabled, i installed driver and ndiswrapper but when i enable the driver it gets diabled automaticly10:45
Admiral_Chicago!anyone10:45
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?10:45
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Admiral_Chicagookay i'm really in bed now, just came to get a book10:45
aleksanterii want to install the http://art4linux.org/pages/kdm-alfa.html alfa kdm theme but i just can't because the .desktop file has no "Type=..."  information?10:45
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crimsuns/ael/ink/ , I think10:46
TannHow do you setup a wireless network connection in kubuntu using ndiswrapper10:46
aleksanteri!installing themes .desktop10:48
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aleksanteri:|10:48
aleksanteri!themes .desktop10:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about themes .desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:49
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TannHello?10:50
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flaccid!ndiswrapper10:50
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:50
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Tannthat was no help10:50
ZeroSystemtann10:51
Tannyes10:51
flaccidsorry i can only suggest google10:51
Tannok10:51
flaccidand the forums etc10:51
Tannok, thanks10:51
aleksanteri-_-10:51
ZeroSystemyou installed ndiswrapper ?10:52
TannI havn't installed kubuntu10:52
Tannand i know how to install the driver10:52
Tanni just want to know how to setup the connection to a network10:53
ZeroSystemwhat do you wnat to know10:53
Tanni just want to know how to setup the connection to a network10:53
ZeroSystemhttp://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation10:53
ZeroSystemlast step there is how to configiuer your network10:54
Tannok10:54
Tannthanks alot!10:54
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flaccidwhy do you use ndiswrapper, Tann?10:55
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ZeroSystem(flaccid): if the wireless adapter keeps getting disabled what could be wrong something, is it liek a bug ?10:58
TannI have to use ndiswrapper because my wireless device is not supported in the kernel10:58
flaccidare you on edgy, zeros?10:58
flaccidnpz tann10:58
ZeroSystemyes edgy11:00
flaccidhave you had it working before?11:00
ZeroSystemthis is the first time i use linux11:01
flaccidwell my wireless is now foo-barred in edgy if i use wpa11:02
flaccidand i can't find the problem11:02
flaccidi'm considering gentoo :)11:03
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lovlossany idea why i cant install java?11:03
flaccidwhat is the error, lovloss?11:03
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lovlossflaccid: it simply doesnt have the option. There is no java in the add/remove list11:04
flaccid!java11:04
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository11:04
flaccidthere you go11:04
lovlossi think i tried that... one sec11:05
ZeroSystem(flaccid): if i installed dapper do you think it will work ?11:05
lovlosssee, it says sun-java5-jre is missing, but referenced11:05
lovlosseither missing, obsolete, or available from another source :P11:06
flaccidZeroSystem: no idea11:06
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flaccidlovloss: did you add the correct repos11:06
lovlossi turned on all the repos that were disabled. thats all i did11:06
flacciddo you even know which repos is required?11:06
lovlossthe site said multiverse i believe, biut that one's on11:07
flaccid!info sun-java5-jre11:07
ubotusun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7279 kB, installed size 16132 kB11:07
flaccidlovloss: did you update after adding the repos?11:07
lovlossyes, im fully up to date11:08
flaccidas in update the package list?11:08
lovlossmaybe i didnt get multiverse... edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse    ... sounds right...11:08
lovlossupdate package list?11:08
flaccid!repos > lovloss11:08
flaccidyes as in sudo apt-get update11:09
lovlossi did it... it still cant find it11:09
lovlossand i see "multiverse" in the list11:09
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flacciddang11:10
lovlossoh11:11
lovlosswait... lol, that site says i had to add "multiverse" to something...11:11
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lovlosswhy dont they just make this come standard?11:13
flaccidyes thats right11:14
flaccidbecause java is not free11:14
flaccid!free11:14
ubotufreedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing11:14
lovlossi know. Im just surprised they dont  hook yuou up with more repos11:15
lovlossanyway it worked :D11:15
lovlossi wonder where i can find more repos :3 thats neat browsing them for stuff11:15
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lovlossSo far i much prefer kde to gnome. A little less stable but the programs are so good11:16
flaccid!source-o-matic11:17
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:17
flaccid^^ lovlosss11:17
lovlossoh neat :311:17
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lovlosswell imma go play11:18
lovlossthanks :311:18
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flaccidnpz11:19
flaccidonly 2.5 hours till nye here in aus11:19
flaccidaustralia11:19
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hyper_chflaccid: Adelaide?11:22
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aleksanterihey i downloaded the http://art4linux.org/pages/kdm-alfa.html alfa theme as a tar.gz package and i thought that i should run the .desktop file there. But then I got an error message that says that the .desktop file has no "File=..." information. What do i need to do?11:23
flaccidhobart11:23
hyper_chflaccid: I spent NYE '96/'97 in Adelaide :)11:24
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lovlossoh i forgot11:25
lovlosshow do i edit my "K menu"11:25
lovlossbah found it11:25
aleksanteriplz? :<11:26
flaccidcool i've never been there11:26
hyper_chflaccid: I was there for 11 1/2 months :)11:26
hyper_chflaccid: but then I was never in Hobart11:26
flaccidwhere are you now11:26
hyper_chflaccid: Switzerland11:26
flaccidits a big country11:26
flaccidah cool11:26
flaccidi'm from sydney11:26
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hyper_chflaccid: only seen Sydney Airport :)11:27
aleksanteri:|11:27
hyper_chbut it was great to sail from Adelaide to port arthur11:27
flaccidah cool.11:27
flaccidah well thats mad11:27
flaccidport arthur is about 1 hour away or something11:28
hyper_cham I mistaken now in the name?11:28
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hyper_chflaccid: meant port augusta11:29
flaccidprobably11:29
hyper_ch:)11:29
aleksanteri!offtopic-#kubuntu-offtopic11:29
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!11:29
flaccidah yep that makes sense11:29
flaccidaleksanteri: meh11:30
aleksanteri-_-11:30
flaccidits new years eve11:30
flaccidis it not11:30
flaccidooops sorry11:30
flaccidthat was off topic...11:30
hyper_chsorry11:30
hyper_chbut nobody seems to have a problem with Kubuntu right now :) so I thought it was ok11:31
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aleksanteri:P11:32
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donzdc86how do i configure the grub bootloader?11:32
hyper_chinstead of just idling in here :)11:32
aleksanterihehehe see? :P11:32
donzdc86i want windows to be my default boot OS11:32
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donzdc86anyone?>11:33
hyper_chdonzdc86: why do you want that?11:33
andreaswrofl11:33
andreaswthat was not his question11:33
andreaswopen /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the default value11:34
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donzdc86can't seem to save after editing11:37
riccardociao a tutti11:38
riccardoho un problema con kubuntu11:38
riccardopotete aiutarmi ?? :(11:38
donzdc86@hyper_ch: i just installed this distro to learn it, i'm not a hardcore linux user, well, i wanna be one. :D11:38
andreaswtype alt + f2 then kdesu kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst11:38
riccardosto cercando di aggiornare i repository11:39
riccardoho editato il file list11:39
Lynoure!it | riccardo11:39
uboturiccardo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:39
riccardoahh :)11:39
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andreaswdonzdc86: you have to get root permission before you can save any changes11:39
riccardosorry so I'll explain in english11:39
donzdc86yup. and how do i do that?11:39
andreaswlook a view lines above11:40
andreaswI just explained it ;)11:40
donzdc86uki11:40
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donzdc86thanks a lot dude. will try. :D11:40
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riccardoI'm trying to update my repository, I have edited my file list in root mode11:40
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riccardobut after this, when I try to send in shell this ----> sudo apt-get update11:41
donzdc86@andreasw: great help! hehe..11:41
riccardothe answer is: E: Impossibile ottenere il lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Risorsa temporaneamente non disponibile)11:42
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riccardoE: Impossibile creare un lock sulla directory di list11:42
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andreaswdonzdc86: you need kdesu because you can't edit any system files as normal user so with kdesu you can get root permission11:42
riccardoany idea how can I do?11:42
hyper_chriccardo: do you have adept or synaptic or some software installer open?11:43
riccardoyes I have adept, I'm using kubuntu11:43
hyper_chriccardo: is it open?11:44
riccardoyes it is11:44
hyper_chriccardo: then close it and try sudo apt-get update again11:44
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riccardook i try now thanks :)11:44
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riccardoalso with adept close the same error11:46
riccardohow can I resolve?11:47
riccardoi wan to update also to listen mp3 files11:47
riccardo:(11:47
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hyper_cheither use adept to update the packages or use ocmmand line but not both at the same time11:47
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riccardocould you pleas explain the correct steps to udate with adept?11:48
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riccardo*update11:49
hyper_ch!adept | riccardo11:50
uboturiccardo: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto11:50
KopecHi, happy new year, I just wonder if anybody could help me with the following problem: I have installed kubuntu on IBM Thinkpad notebook and after I have done a regular update through Adept Updater, the X just won't load. The screen freezes just before the login screen would appear. It stays black, but it seems everything else is running on the background, because when i enter my password something is happening. in syslog I've got only kdmgre11:50
Kopecion... no (important) errors in Xorg.0.log11:50
riccardothanks I've already read this guide but no solution :(11:50
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aleksanteri!kdm11:56
ubotukdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 611 kB, installed size 1480 kB11:56
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ubuntuhello12:00
ubuntuMy name's Andrew from Italy12:00
ubuntuI have a problem mounting a partition12:00
ubuntuit says "can't find /dev/hdd in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"12:01
ubuntuthis is the command I issued12:01
ubuntu"sudo mount /dev/cdrw"12:01
ubuntuanybody got a hint?12:02
sgrovermeans you are trying to mount one of the default devices.  You need to change your command a little12:04
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sgrovereither specify the actual device AND the directory to mount it to12:04
ubuntuor...?12:05
sgroveror, view your /etc/fstab, and see what they call your cd device12:05
sgroverfor instance, it probably isn't "/dev/cdrw".12:05
ubuntulike "cat /etc/fstab"?12:05
sgrovermaybe "/dev/cdrom"?12:05
ubuntunope12:05
sgroverthat's one way, or "less /etc/fstab"12:05
ubuntu/dev/cdrom is the KUbuntu CD12:06
ubuntuI'm trying to install Borland Kylix 312:06
sgroveryou have more than one device?12:06
ubuntuI simply want to see if it runs and stuff12:06
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ubuntuyes12:06
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ubuntuunionfs / unionfs rw 0 012:06
ubuntutmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 012:06
ubuntuthis is my "cat /etc/fstab" result12:07
sgroverer, have you tried just putting your disk into the drive and see if you get a mounted device on your desktop?12:07
ubuntuI don't get it12:07
sgroveror, you can do "media:/" in the address bar of Konqueror and see what media you have available to you.12:07
ubuntuok now I got it12:08
ubuntuKUbuntu signalled it as "Unmounted CD"12:08
sgroverright click on it and say mount?12:08
ubuntunow I asked it to open in a new window12:08
ubuntuit did12:08
sgroverthat should mount it for you.12:08
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ubuntuthank you a thousands12:08
ubuntu:D12:08
ubuntuand happy new year :)12:09
sgroverin the new window, the mounted position is in the address bar12:09
Kopechey anybody could give me some hint why can't I boot to KDE, as I mentioned before few lines upper?12:09
sgroverKopec, it would seem your xorg.conf is messed up.  (first guess)12:10
ubuntuKopec: what ubuntu distro are you using?12:10
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wedgeVanyone here has firefox setup to use Akregator to subscribe to RSS/ATOM feeds?12:10
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sgrovergo to a command prompt, login, sudo su, and then check /etc/X11/ - there should be a backup file there12:10
Kopecok, i will try to use the backup one...12:11
sgroverif that doesn't work, backup the current xorg.conf file, then run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:11
ubuntuKopec: I'm using a KUbuntu live and it works really great12:12
ubuntu:)12:12
ubuntuit fights against my Linux inexperience and it's winning as of now12:12
ubuntu:)12:12
Kopecubuntu: yeah, I had live, and it worked great, really great... and even after I installed it on HDD, but after regular Update I cannot get into X12:13
donzdc86can you guys write on NTFS?12:13
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ubuntuthat's dangerous to my knowledge12:13
lenscapeKopec: are you aware of the ctrl-alt-f1 key sequence to get a text console?12:13
ubuntuvery dangerous :D12:13
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wedgeVworks fine for me12:14
donzdc86@ubuntu: are you referring to my question?12:14
ubuntuyes donzdc8612:14
lenscapekubuntu's graphics configuration is fucked. I've always had to configure X by hand with Kubuntu12:14
wedgeV"deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ edgy main" has some ntfs3g packages12:14
wedgeVwhich support writing12:15
ubuntugood to know lenscape12:15
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ubuntumaybe it's a wise idea to keep a backup copy of the XOrg conf file it has generated for the live12:15
ubuntu:)12:15
donzdc86is it safe?12:15
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wedgeVdonzdc86: well, its supposed to be safe12:16
Lynoure!fuse | donzdc8612:16
ubotudonzdc86: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse12:16
wedgeVdonzdc86: i've used it with no problems so far12:16
sivaji_2009what is computer virus means12:16
gnomefreakdonzdc86: its very unsafe and not supported yet12:16
Kopecsgrover: didn't help, is there another way of getting some old working conf file rather that writing my own?12:17
Kopeclenscape: yeah, I am aware of that ;-) although doesn't work once it's "fucked"12:17
sgroverlenscape - sounds like you have some unusual hardware that isn't being detected properly.  It happens sometimes.12:17
donzdc86hmm.. what possible problems could it cause me?12:17
lenscapesgrover: just dual head. Not that unusual12:18
wedgeVactually, read http://www.ntfs-3g.org/12:18
sgrovermanually building your own file is good in a bunch of ways, but a lot of work.12:18
sgroverwhat hardware?12:18
donzdc86destruction of my NT File System?12:18
Kopecsgrover: mean graphics? some integrated S3 Savage card12:18
lenscapesgrover: two different cards: Matrox and nVidia. Kubuntu could configure neither with dual-head.12:18
ubuntudonzdc86: I've read that it's far from being stable12:19
ubuntugo guessing12:19
ubuntu:)12:19
sgroverKopec - backup the xorg.conf file, then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", then answer the questions that pop up12:19
lenscapeKopec: that's very strange. I've never been unable to use ctrl-alt-f1 if X wouldn't start.12:19
wedgeVubuntu: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/12:19
donzdc86i'll read on wedgeV's link12:19
sgroverlenscape: I have no experience (yet) w/ dual-head, but have heard lots of folks grumbling about xorg configs for it.12:20
sgroverso chances are it's a dual head issue, rather than a simple vid card driver issue.12:20
sgroverbut it sounds like you have a handle on it, so the conversation isn't needed?? :)12:20
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ubuntuwonderful12:21
sgroverKopec, you may need to hit the web to get the vertical/horizontal refresh rates for the monitor on your system - getting these messed up can cause problems like you've described.12:21
ubuntuthe installer crashed :)12:21
manu_hi12:21
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sgroverubuntu - the ubuntu installer? or the Kylix installer?12:22
ubuntuubuntu installer12:22
ubuntu:)12:22
Kopecsgrover: i will do my best in finding the right values to fill ;-)12:22
Hobbsee!wine12:24
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.12:24
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ubuntuhow do I submit a bug to LaunchPad?=12:24
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crimsunubuntu, against which source package?12:25
crimsunubuntu, I recommend you use https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug12:25
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ubuntuok I noticed an url12:26
ubuntuthe problem occurred to ubiquity12:27
ubuntuit simply crashes all the time12:27
ubuntumaybe I should restart KUbuntu and try again?12:27
crimsunare you using 6.10?12:27
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ubuntuhow can I fetch the ubuntu version?12:28
crimsunlsb_release -r12:29
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ubuntuyes12:29
ubuntu6.1012:29
ubuntulsb = linux standard base?12:29
crimsunyou can try the alternate installer, I suppose12:29
ubuntuuhm12:29
crimsun(yes)12:29
ubuntuwhich is...? :D12:30
krautmoin12:30
ubuntu./moin?12:30
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fdoving!alternate12:30
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.12:30
sivaji_2009how virus works12:31
ubuntusivaji_2009: get infected and you'll find out12:31
ubuntu:)12:31
ubuntuah12:31
ubuntuso I guess I have to download an iso and then burn it?12:32
sivaji_2009linux cannot be infected by any virus12:32
fdovingguess so.12:32
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ubuntusivaji_2009: just use Windows :)12:32
ubuntubesides, saying that "Linux cannot be infected by any virus" is entirely incorrect,imho12:33
sivaji_2009our os will be in binary format am i correct12:33
sivaji_2009our os will be in binary format am i correct only then i can be executed12:33
lenscapesivaji_2009: that is not so and is dangerously naive12:33
ubuntuok12:34
ubuntuI got to go for a while12:34
ubuntuwill be back later12:34
lenscapesivaji_2009: as soon as someone writes a Linux virus, people will get infected by it.12:34
ubuntuthank you all for the help till now12:34
ubuntuwill bother you some more :)12:34
ubuntuHappy new year to all if we don't happen to catch each other any earlier12:34
sivaji_2009how it is possible to add piece of code to already compiled program12:35
Lynourelenscape: there are Linux worms at least already. They are just not common.12:35
sivaji_2009how it is possible to add piece of code to already compiled program(virus)12:36
wedgeVsivaji_2009: easily12:36
lenscapesivaji_2009: no problem. Or simply replace it12:36
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Kopecaaaargh I've gone through entire xorg.conf configuration and.... it doesn't help :-D i just wonder if reinstalling entire Kubuntu wouldn't be easier way12:37
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lenscapeKopec: at the top of the xorg.conf file is the name of the program that created it. (dexconf). Look into that.12:38
sivaji_2009windows does not reveal souce code but it can be affected by virus on the otherside linux reveals souce code y it is not affected by virus12:39
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wedgeVsivaji_2009: wrong12:39
sivaji_2009can u get me12:40
sivaji_2009is my question is correct ?12:40
CVirussivaji_2009: it's not about source code ... its about the security system used by that particular OS12:41
Kopecsivaji_2009: if I ever make a virus I would make it for Windows, because I don't care about linux users, which are in minority AND are able to configure their firewalls,but about milions of windows users, which will run my exe file by themselves if I tell them it's a new wallpaper.12:41
gnomefreaksivaji_2009: the way unix's file system is set up its hard to write a virus to affect it12:41
lenscapegnomefreak: not so12:41
fdovingthe big difference is that most windows users run all programs as administrator/root.12:42
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lenscapegnomefreak: get root. Write anywhere.12:42
fdovingIn linux that is not the case.12:42
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CVirussivaji_2009: most of the time you're using a normal user account, not root ... so .. if a virus hits you, it wont do much damage at all12:42
wedgeVwell, actually its pretty easy..., just put a interesting .deb somewhere, and people will install it12:42
lenscapewedgeV: quite.12:42
Kopeclenscape: what do I do with it?12:42
fdovinglinux virus history -> http://www-math.uni-paderborn.de/~axel/bliss/12:42
Kopeclenscape: the xorg.conf header12:42
wedgeVCVirus: it can remove all your files12:43
wedgeVi consider that as a lot of damage12:43
CViruswedgeV: why dont you have backups ?12:43
lenscapeKopec: dexconf --help12:43
wedgeVi have12:43
wedgeV;)12:43
CViruswedgeV: thats it :-)12:43
aleksanteri!karamba12:43
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org12:43
CVirusI'm not saying that Linux is 100% immune against viruses12:44
wedgeVits the same with windows12:44
CVirusa smart user could make any OS immune against viruses12:44
wedgeVif you know what you do, your safe12:44
wedgeVmost of the time12:44
CVirusexactly12:44
lenscapeCVirus: its not possible to make a system 100% immune to viruses12:45
gnomefreaklenscape: root wouldnt affect if a virus can infect you. if it needs to be run with root its fairly simple for it to12:45
lenscapeCVirus: there's always the human element12:45
sivaji_2009how it is possible to add piece if code to already compiled program (that too we are aware of internal operations,and we r not aware of  language in which it is written ) in this condition how it is possible to add i am talking about windows os12:46
lenscapegnomefreak: a virus doesn't need root to spread. It depends what it does. It could simply be a script called by your .bashrc file, for example.12:46
wedgeVsivaji_2009: ...12:46
wedgeVsivaji_2009: binary patching12:47
wedgeVsivaji_2009: just replace the executable12:47
wedgeVsivaji_2009: whatever12:47
fdovinggnomefreak: that's not true. the vital difference win vs. lin, is exactly that barrier, windows users run everything as root, linux users usually doesn't.12:47
wedgeVsivaji_2009: a executable is just a file after all12:47
gnomefreakfdoving: su == run everything as root12:47
wedgeVsivaji_2009: and you know that it is possible to change files i suppose12:47
fdovinggnomefreak: you have to know the password. and the virus doesn't.12:47
gnomefreaksu only have to enter password once12:48
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lenscapehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus12:48
lenscapea few here could benefit from getting clued-up, maybe.12:48
sivaji_2009virus can affect if we are in administrator mode am i correct ?12:48
gnomefreakand mac OSX you have a user with root privledges as does win12:49
wedgeVwell a virus could just place a "su" replacement in your home dir, and change your shell to call that instead of /usr/bin/su12:49
fdovinggnomefreak: suDO in ubuntu, remembers the password. but only for the current shell session. the design isn't that sloppy.12:49
wedgeVsivaji_2009: it can effect the system when your are root12:49
fdovingwedgeV: doesn't matter, you need the password.12:49
lenscapethe whole sudo thing is broken. I set a root password and use root when I need it.12:49
wedgeVfdoving: yea, but when you call "su" you enter the password12:50
gnomefreakfdoving: windows vs linux not ubuntu and sodu is not more secure than su12:50
fdovingwedgeV: unless the program is setuid root, which you need root privileges to set.12:50
wedgeVbut su is a maleware storing your password for the virus12:50
fdovingwedgeV: true.12:50
wedgeVthen it has the password12:50
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sivaji_2009ok come for entertainment my media player does not supports .wmv format what should i do12:50
wedgeVsivaji_2009: VLC supports wmv i think12:51
sivaji_2009i got vlc also but it does not supports wmv ver 912:51
crazy_bushttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281823  I was following this guide to get newer versions of my linux nvidia drive to try and fix a problem.  However now when X tries to load it just cancels and goes to a terminal instead.  Can anyone help fix this?12:52
wedgeVsivaji_2009: i think the latest version does12:52
sivaji_2009how to update it12:52
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wedgeVadd "http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ edgy-plf free non-free" to your repositories12:53
wedgeVhttp://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html12:53
wedgeVoh, no, sorry12:54
sivaji_2009VLC media player 0.8.4 (wxWidgets interface) is it old version12:54
wedgeVthats just for libdvdcss it seems12:54
sivaji_2009what appen12:54
wedgeVsivaji_2009: yes, you need 0.8.6 for wmv912:54
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Kopeclenscape: hey I'm givin' up... I will try complete reinstall tomorrow. enjoy the rest of the year!12:56
crazy_busDoes anyone know about that guide?12:59
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wedgeVcrazy_bus: look at you X log in /var/log01:00
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crazy_busWhat for?01:02
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Koshtanhi yaall01:06
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crazy_busIm in my xorg.conf, how do I change it to use nv drivers, so I can log in and fix the problem?01:09
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wedgeVcrazy_bus: Section Device01:11
wedgeVDriver01:11
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tex4everciao a tutti01:11
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crazy_busthank you I just found it01:12
tex4everhi to all01:12
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tex4everanyone can support my in the kernel process compile?01:12
tex4everI'm getting crazy!!!01:12
tex4everwhy make command give me an error?01:13
wedgeVwhat error01:13
tex4everok01:14
tex4evermake: *** No rule to make target `menuconfig'.  Stop.01:14
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wedgeVumm, dont paste into the channel but message me instead01:14
wedgeVtex4ever: is that all the output you get?01:15
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sivaji_2009what is dapper , breezey01:18
wedgeVsivaji_2009: older versions of ubuntu01:19
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wedgeVthe current one is called "edgy"01:19
sivaji_2009how to use version that i m using01:19
sivaji_2009how to see version that i m using01:20
wedgeVyou can look in /etc/apt/sources.list01:20
sivaji_2009bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied what should i do01:22
wedgeVless /etc/apt/sources/list01:22
wedgeVless /etc/apt/sources.list01:22
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wedgeVyou can also do "cat /etc/issue"01:24
sivaji_2009i could see only repository there01:24
wedgeVit will say the version number01:24
wedgeVdoes it contain dapper or edgy?01:24
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tex4everhi01:25
wedgeV"lsb_release -a" probably works too01:25
tex4eversorry ,I encountred a issue01:25
tex4everfor me?01:25
wedgeVno01:25
tex4eversorry01:25
wedgeVfor sivaji_2009:01:25
tex4everregarding my make-issue?01:26
sivaji_2009sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ less /etc/apt/sources.list01:26
sivaji_2009deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main01:26
sivaji_2009deb http://lk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted01:26
sivaji_2009deb-src http://lk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted01:26
sivaji_2009## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the01:26
sivaji_2009## distribution.01:26
wedgeVare you following some guide?01:26
tex4everyes01:26
wedgeVwhich one01:26
tex4everbur nothing to do!01:26
tex4everacrually I have Kubuntu 6.1001:26
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wedgeVsivaji_2009: you are running ubuntu dapper01:26
wedgeVtex4ever: which guide?01:28
tex4everwiki.ubuntu01:28
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sivaji_2009is dapper is older ?01:28
VincentMXcan anybody help me? i have problems installing the ati driver01:28
tex4everand other guides on the net01:28
wedgeVsivaji_2009: yes, edgy is the newest release, dapper is one release older01:28
tex4everthe procedures was the same01:28
Lynouresivaji_2009: Older, but long term supported01:28
ZeroSystemi installed kubunta recently but my wireless adapter keeps being disabled, i installed driver and ndiswrapper but when i enable the driver it gets diabled automaticly01:29
wedgeVtex4ever: did you install all required packages to build a kernel?01:29
tex4everthe big problem is make01:29
wedgeVVincentMX: what problem?01:29
tex4everthe make command give me the follow error : no rule to make target config01:30
sivaji_2009how do know required package01:30
sivaji_2009how do i  know required package01:31
wedgeVtex4ever: in what directory do you run 'make'?01:31
wedgeVsivaji_2009: for what?01:31
tex4everin the /usr/src01:31
sivaji_2009at end of 2009 i will hold a B.E  degree01:31
wedgeVwell, thats wrong01:32
tex4everreally?01:32
sivaji_2009what is make01:32
wedgeVtex4ever: you need to run it from where you extracted the kernel sources too01:32
wedgeVto01:32
tex4everright this is the dir in wich I've extracted the kernel!01:32
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wedgeVtex4ever: extracting in /usr/src should have created a /usr/src/linux-... directory01:33
tex4ever...01:33
tex4everbut I don't have the linux dir...01:34
tex4everI'll try to remake the process01:34
tex4evermany many thanks for your support01:34
wedgeVok ;)01:34
tex4everhave a nice day!01:34
wedgeVyou too01:34
wedgeVsivaji_2009: make is used to compile programs01:35
sivaji_2009which language does it comiles01:35
wedgeVsivaji_2009: it isnt a compiler for a specific language, it rather manages the compilation and linking of several files01:36
wedgeVsivaji_2009: you can read "man make"01:36
sivaji_2009ok01:37
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Bubba_Gumpfirestarter picks up UDP bitTorrent events, even though i have restarted and have yet to open ktorrent. any way of stopping these?01:37
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ubuntuit's a great distro01:38
ubuntuI just wish the installer worked01:38
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motshi, i have a problem with qt-apps and umlauts01:40
motsthey all look garbled for me01:40
motskeyboard is set to germany01:40
VincentMXwedgeV: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/848405 <-- this problem  :)01:41
motsany help?01:41
motsif i use kopete, the others also see garbage01:42
wedgeVVincentMX: can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin?01:42
motsbut if i use konversation, the others see it just fine01:42
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mots_kopetelooks like this : ?01:42
motsno ideas?01:43
ubuntuhey01:43
ubuntuI found out that I have adept-installer installed01:43
ubuntuhow can I run it?01:43
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wedgeVmots: nope01:44
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wedgeVmots: did you search the ubuntu forums?01:44
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motswedgeV: didn't find anything01:45
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wedgeVmots: do you have the problem in all qt applications?01:46
motsyeah, but only if i use kde01:46
motsif i use gnome, everything is fine01:46
wedgeVmots: i have LANG=en_US.UTF-8 and they work fine for me01:46
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wedgeVmots: it looks like qt doesnt use utf-8 for you, while it should01:47
wedgeVmots: no idea what might cause this thouh01:47
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alwahello01:50
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nokhow to find the kernel panic messages, I can only see it when I am in a console, not in kde.01:59
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jonah1980hey guys, doesn anyone know what the problem is with the ubuntu channel??02:06
riccardo_hi to everyboy02:06
riccardo_anyone could hepl me with repository in kubuntu?02:07
sivaji_how to add repositary to adept02:07
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riccardo_i have changed my list and i send the command to update02:07
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riccardo_and I've downloaded only a part02:08
riccardo_because after was stopped because said Err with the connection about the url02:08
riccardo_and now near the clock in th tool bar I've one icon that say that I've 96 possible udate02:09
riccardo_*update02:09
riccardo_because I've downloaded only this part02:09
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riccardo_and I'm not be able to install it02:10
riccardo_:(02:10
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sivaji_tell me how to add repositories02:16
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CVirus!reository02:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about reository - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:21
CVirus!repository02:21
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:21
CVirus!apt02:22
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)02:22
CVirussivaji_2009: ^02:22
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Bubba_Gumphow do i change the default pdf viewer?02:28
manu_hi02:29
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fdovingBubba_Gump: konq -> settings -> configure konq. -> file associationss -> search for 'pdf', it's under applications. select it, and add/move your prefered pdf viewer to the top of the list.02:32
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Bubba_Gumpthanks :)02:32
fdovingBubba_Gump: also, you might want to have a look at the embeded tab, select whether or not viewing pdfs should be embedded into konq or shown in a external viewer.02:34
Bubba_Gumpyeah i'm thinking konq02:34
Bubba_Gumpmuch more easier for me that way :)02:34
Bubba_Gumpthanks again :)02:34
fdovingyou're welcome.02:35
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|tex4ever|hi guys03:04
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andreaswhi |tex4ever|03:05
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ForgeAushey all HAPPY NEW YEAR!03:05
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andreaswhi 3 pm here ^^03:06
ForgeAuscan anyone give me some insight into the directory structure linux uses? how I'd might start to get to know where to find stuff?03:06
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andreaswForgeAus: http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilestruct.html03:07
ForgeAusI know theres var/cache which is where apt packages are downloaded to, I know theres /usr/bin where many executables reside, what else?03:07
ForgeAusthanx andreasw :)03:07
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ajopaul_i hv two sound cards how do i make one default?03:09
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bobbyis there a way to install the dutch dictionaries for OOo trough the packagemanager?03:11
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cafenet69a03:12
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bobbythe openoffice.org-l10n-nl seems to select hunspell-dictionary-nl and myspell-dictionary-nl but these packages are non existend03:13
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ms__have you updated your packet lists?03:16
bobbyyes i have03:16
ms__hm, strange03:16
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bobbycheck them out for yourself03:16
ubuntuhello03:16
ubuntuI'm finally installing KUbuntu03:16
ubunturestarting it proved correct :)03:17
bobbyi also noted that there are no myspell-dictionary-* packages but there are myspell-*03:17
bobbyhowever not the nl03:17
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bobbyms__: could you give it a try and see if you get the same result?03:18
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ms__yes i tried, seems you have a problem because you are right. there is no nl spellchecker03:19
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bert_hello03:20
bobbywell manual install it is than03:20
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ms__openoffice.org-l10n-nl is only the interface :(03:20
bobbyi know both myspell and hunspell dicts are available03:20
bert_install webcam???03:20
bert_kan iemand mij helpen...????03:21
bobbybert_: maybe but keep it in english please03:21
bobbybert_: what webcam do you have?03:22
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bert_ii have a trust spacecam 32003:22
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bobbyi will have to check it but i have the same and when i tryed it there where no linux drivers supporting that one03:23
bert_ii have install the driver 0v51x03:23
bert_ibut i have no dev/video003:23
bobbywhat does lsmod say?03:24
ms__i have found myspell-nl :)03:24
bobbyms__: where?03:24
bobbyand how do i get it in apt?03:25
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ms__searched with aptitude but apt-get myspell-nl should also work03:25
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bobbybert no not everything!03:26
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bobbyjust the driver03:26
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bXiis there some kde app which allows me to see any available wireless networks?03:26
ms__apt-get install myspell-nl03:26
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bobbyms__: i dont have that package03:26
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bobbyE: Kon pakket myspell-nl niet vinden03:27
bobbyyou probably know what that means03:27
ms__bobby: which entries do you have in /etc/apt/sources.list ?03:28
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bert_iwhat was that03:29
bert_ii fliop out03:29
bobbydeb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted03:29
bobbydeb-src http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted03:29
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bert_ithe driver in lsmod was thare03:29
bert_iov51x03:30
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bobbybert_i: yes i saw03:30
bobbyvideodev loaded it aswell03:30
angasulewhat's a good SVG editor, preferrably for KDE? inkscape looks nice but for gnome03:30
bert_iyes03:30
ubuntucan KUbuntu be used as server?03:30
bert_ibut how can i make dev/video003:31
bobbydo this: dmesg | grep ov5103:31
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bobbyvideodev should make it for you\03:31
BluesKajHowdy all :)03:31
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bobby s03:31
bobbyms__: i also have the03:32
bobbydeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted03:32
bobbydeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted03:32
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zorglu_angasule: none, inkscape is the 'standard' on linux in general03:32
bobbyms__: what do you have?03:32
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guastafierrociao raga03:32
guastafierrosono nuovo03:32
guastafierroci sta qualc'uno che parla iatliano03:32
zorglu_!it | guastafierro03:32
ubotuguastafierro: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:32
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bert_ii see usbcore: registered new driver ov51x03:32
ms__bobby: don't know exactly but perhaps your package is in 'universe' just give it a try03:33
bobbyuniverse multiverse?03:33
zorglu_!info myspell-nl03:33
ubotumyspell-nl: Dutch dictionary for myspell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.1e-42 (edgy), package size 496 kB, installed size 1592 kB03:33
bobbyah03:33
bobbyso i simply put those words after restricted?03:33
ms__i hava all repos 'main restricted universe multiverse'03:34
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ms__bobby: correctly03:34
manu_have strange problem, in my kde colors all text is white, when i go on a website where text is black it is white , in konqueror it isnt so, someone can help to make the black fonts in ff black?03:34
bobbyms__: im a debian noob so didn't even know about /etc/apt/sources.lst03:34
ms__no problem :)03:35
zorglu_!repository03:35
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:35
BluesKajstill trying to get dir rendering to work but no luck ...been following the instructions on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a  ,but they aren't working for me. :(03:35
bobbytnx zorglu_, ms__03:36
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zorglu_no problem03:36
ms__BluesKaj: what does Xorg.0.log say?03:37
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bert_ihy bobby can i chat private for a few minit for my webcam03:37
bobbysure03:38
bert_io i must register03:39
BluesKajms__, command not found03:39
bobbyyes same here03:40
ms__thats no command03:40
bert_iwhere can i register03:40
zorglu_!register | bert_i03:40
ubotubert_i: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration03:40
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ms__its a logfile /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:40
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BluesKajms__, sudo modprobe gives me this : "Not loading fglrx module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf"03:41
ms__then you have to add the driver there03:42
BluesKajso i just add it in the Module section with " load fglrx"03:43
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zorglu_!ati03:43
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:43
zorglu_i guess you read this one ?03:43
BluesKajyup03:43
ms__no, either you use 'sudo aticonfig --initial' or manually03:43
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zorglu_ok :)03:43
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bert_ihy bobby you say dmesg | grep ov5103:44
bert_iwhat can i see??03:44
ms__he has already posted that link zorglu_ ;)03:44
bobby__bert_i: normly stuff the driver prints on load03:44
bert_iUSB OV519 video device found03:44
bobby__there you have your error message03:45
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bert_iSensor is an OV764803:45
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bobby__i mean your load message03:45
bert_iDevice at usb-0000:02:0a.0-3.4 registered to minor 003:45
bert_iv1.65-1.11-mark : ov51x USB Camera Driver03:46
bobby__does it also say what device it made?03:46
bert_iOV519 JPEG Decompression Module03:46
bert_inow03:46
bobby__try dmesg | grep videodev03:46
bert_iit say nothing03:47
bert_iit is ok???03:47
bobby__that is odd03:47
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endo602Howdy.  I was wondering if someone can help me installing and using pftpfxp-mew?03:48
bobby__try dmesg | grep video003:48
bert_iit say also nothing03:49
bobby__i have a different webcam one that is not yet supported so i do not have any experience with it i cant help you any further03:49
bobby__try to find someelse with a spacecam there should be more than one03:49
bert_iyesterday i try and i see it xawtv whit my webcam but now nothing03:49
cathalhow come amarok 1.4.4 is available for edgy on their website but in the repositories i only have 1.4.3?03:49
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bobby__cathal: did you update03:50
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cathalim running edgy if thats what u mean03:51
zorglu_!info amarok03:51
ubotuamarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu10 (edgy), package size 14370 kB, installed size 31288 kB03:51
dvheumenhi everyone. Does someone know how to disable the KDED Media Manager? it won' t respond to simply clicking the 'Stop' button (all other services do)03:51
endo602anyone have any experience with pftp-mew?03:51
andreaswis the ubuntu irc server somehow linked with freenode?03:51
bert_ihwo can i connect auto whit my wireless assistant03:51
bobby__cathal: no that is not what i ment i ment apt-get update03:51
bert_ii must clik on my linksys (otherwise now internet)03:52
slow-motionhallo03:53
cathalbobby_: yea i have. looking at !info amarok it also says 1.4.3. Maybe it should be a question for the amarok guys?03:53
zorglu_cathal: they need to update the pacakge in the repository03:53
andreaswslow-motion: hi03:53
bobby__yes i see i have it too but ubotu shows that 1.4.3 is the latest03:53
zorglu_cathal: this takes time and apparently nobody had this time for now03:53
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slow-motionhi andreasw03:54
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bert__is there anyboddy whit webcam03:56
zorglu_!webcam03:56
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras03:56
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BluesKajfglrx info = Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"....strange ?03:57
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BluesKajweird cuz following the instructions worked previously , shouldn't have updated the kernel i guess03:58
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endo602anyone have any experience with pftp-mew?04:00
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ms__BluesKaj: check your xorg.conf for 'Load "dri"'04:01
zorglu_endo602: what is pftp-mew ?04:01
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endo602its an ftp client04:01
zorglu_ok04:01
ms__!info pftp-mew04:01
ubotuPackage pftp-mew does not exist in any distro I know04:01
ms__:)04:02
BluesKajms__, in "modules" ?04:02
ubuntuok04:02
ubuntuI give up installing KUbuntu :-(04:03
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zorglu_you miss something :)04:03
ubuntuit's too complicated04:03
ms__BluesKaj: yes, 'Section "Modules"'04:03
ubuntuI'm trying to partition but it seems I never get it right04:03
endo602for some reason my openssl is installed but not registering04:04
zorglu_!partition04:04
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter04:04
ms__ubuntu: what gets wrong?04:04
zorglu_maouaou what a good tips :)04:04
ubuntuthe installer is kind of messed up04:04
fdovingendo602: you probably need the libssl-dev package.04:04
ubuntufirst of all it doesn't display well04:05
BluesKajyeah ms__, it 's not there , so I add it then ?04:05
ubuntuall controls are grouped together and it's impossible to distinguish among them04:05
ubuntulabels and controls are messed up04:05
endo602fdoving thanks04:05
zorglu_ubuntu: which version are your trying to install ?04:05
endo602ill try that04:05
ubuntu6.1004:05
ms__BluesKaj: please try it :)04:06
LeeJunFanpersonally I find the text mode install easier, and it's been around a lot longer so it's more bug-free.04:06
zorglu_ubuntu: seems weird, i mean if the installer was so bad you wont be the only one to complain :)04:06
ubuntuwell, I've installed Linux a few times in the past04:06
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ubuntuthis is the first time I'm having such issues04:06
LeeJunFanubuntu: what graphics card do you have?04:06
zorglu_maybe a very low resolution ?04:07
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ubuntuon the contrary04:07
ubuntuit's 1280x102404:07
BluesKajnope ms__, it's still missing04:07
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zorglu_so i dont get it, the kind of bug you described show a bug in the gui itself, aka something which is the same for everybody04:08
zorglu_so it should show on most people install the same bug04:08
zorglu_but it doesnt, as far as i know04:08
ubuntuwell zorglu_, I'm not one who complains just for the sake of it04:08
ubuntuit displays here04:08
ms__BluesKaj: check '/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/'04:09
zorglu_ubuntu: i believe you04:09
ubuntuand I already reported the installer crashing earlier04:09
ms__are the fglrx modules there?04:09
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ubuntuI reported it to launchpad04:09
zorglu_ubuntu: just seems weird to me04:09
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BluesKajms__,, folder doesn't exist04:10
zorglu_ubuntu: on the other hand i run on dapper, exactly for this reason, aka avoiding such problem :)04:10
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ubuntuwell, I know that some bugs won't be pinpointed in a timely fashion04:10
ubuntuand that not all people show the same bugs04:10
ubuntubut here we go04:10
ubuntuI mean04:10
jlowellI know this isnt safe, but does anyone know how to stop kdesu from asking for a password?04:10
ubuntuit's happening here :)04:10
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unix_infidelis there a package called fluxbox-desktop?04:10
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unix_infidelthat installs all needed X components along with flux?04:10
zorglu_ubuntu: hmm have you tried to install 'ubuntu' gnome stuff, and then update to kubuntu ?04:11
zorglu_ubuntu: as a workaround04:11
ubuntuno zorglu_, I'm on a KUbuntu live CD04:11
zorglu_ubuntu: it may be an option04:11
ubuntuit's frustrating04:11
ubuntu:D04:11
ubuntulol04:11
zorglu_:)04:12
ubuntuwell, being a programmer myself, I know how these things go I mean04:12
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ubuntuok, I'll try mandriva now04:12
ubuntusee if it installs fine04:12
zorglu_hehe :)04:13
andreaswI tried to encode an avi file to mpeg2 with04:13
andreaswtranscode -i test.avi -o test.mpg -y mpeg2enc -F 4 -N 0x5004:13
andreaswbut I get the error that the audio codec isn't supported by the encoder04:13
ubuntuthen when I'll be "bolder" I'll try again with KUbuntu04:13
ms__BluesKaj: maybe you will try to install the fglrx source an compile the module by yourself?04:13
ubuntuwhich is fantastic btw04:13
ubuntuI mean04:13
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ubuntuI love it as interface, programs, all04:13
zorglu_you mean except the installer ? :)04:13
ubunturiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight04:13
ubuntu:D04:13
ubuntuI was actually going to suggest it to a friend04:14
ubuntubut given these issues, I can't right now04:14
ubuntu:)04:14
PhinnFortwhere can i bug the kubuntu kernel maintainers?04:14
ubuntuit's not adviceable to bug them04:14
ubuntuthey could fix you04:15
ubuntu:P04:15
ubuntulol04:15
PhinnFort:P04:15
ubuntuok peers04:15
ubuntuhappy new year04:15
BluesKajyeah ms__ , that might be the way to do it , altho the ATI fglrx driver is listed in my sys/settings/monitor display driver04:15
PhinnFortit's several hours left04:15
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ubuntuin case we don't catch earlier04:15
ubuntu:)04:15
PhinnFortrotfl: https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-clusterfuck04:15
endo602what would i get this error when trying to compile something? error: FALSE was not declared in this scope04:16
ms__BluesKaj: seems not completely installed, so i suggest manual install :/04:16
PhinnFort;)04:17
PhinnForthappy new year04:17
BluesKajok, will try it04:17
ubuntulmao04:17
ubuntuvery cool link :)04:17
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PhinnFortso far only one of the kernel devs i've whoised is online, and he isn't in any channels04:17
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ubuntuavoiding lusers? :D04:17
PhinnFort:P04:18
PhinnFortthey've probably hidden their channel04:18
ubuntuok am going now, have fun :)04:18
PhinnForttired of converted gentoo ricers coming with silly suggestions04:18
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PhinnFortyou too04:18
PhinnForthappy new year, again04:18
ms__thanks PhinnFort, same to you :)04:19
PhinnFort;)04:20
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PhinnFortwhoohoo04:21
PhinnFortfound their channel04:21
PhinnFortno kubuntu specific channel though04:21
ms__lets hear04:22
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hyper_ch!ipv604:23
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv404:23
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endo602what would i get this error when trying to compile something? error: FALSE was not declared in this scope04:24
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ms__endo602: missed an include?04:24
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endo602can it be that i didnt install correct pkgs?04:25
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bobby__what is the recomended video player for kubuntu (or kde for that matter)04:26
endo602vlc04:26
akrusmplayer!04:27
zorglu_well it is kaffeine04:27
akruskaffeine is okay too :)04:27
gjohnstonyeah kaffeine or vlc04:27
bobby__ah yes kaffeine came with it04:27
PhinnFortcodeine04:27
[BTF] Chm0dhappy new year everyone Ill probably be off here for the rest of the day04:27
PhinnFortcodeine pwns very, very hard04:27
PhinnFort:P04:27
ms__endo602: of course you need all dev-packages04:27
endo602for gcc?04:28
endo602or qt4 also?04:28
ms__depends on the program you want to compile04:28
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endo602pftp-mew04:29
binksanyone anygood with mp3 players it will mount but cant write to it any ideas04:29
fdovingendo602: where can i find this pftp-mew program?04:29
fdovingendo602: if you point me to it, i'll guide you through compiling.04:30
endo602look for pftp-shit04:30
bobby__binks: what error mesage did you get?04:30
endo602google04:30
fdovingendo602: can you give me a direct link please?04:30
endo602sure04:30
endo602sorry04:30
bobby__it is most likely a permisions thing04:30
binksjust a sec ill reconnect it04:31
endo602http://www.derijk.org/pftp/04:31
bobby__is it a standard usbmassdevice thingy?04:31
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binkshmmwell ive been out for lunch come back home and now it works hmmm04:33
bobby__miracle works04:33
binksi have no idea what happend must be roeboot that did it04:33
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endo602fdoving you get it?04:34
bobby__binks: if you mount it as root that you wont be able to write by default04:34
binksok so 2nd prob i have to manually power off pc as kubuntu hangs when screen goes black04:34
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bobby__that is as normal user04:34
binksi gave it a chmod 77704:35
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fdovingendo602: yes. hang on.04:35
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bobby__i dont know for sure whether that works or not04:35
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endo602cool04:36
bobby__its better to make a entry in fstab04:36
bobby__or perhaps there is a fancy gui thingy in kde that can do everything foryou04:36
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fdovingendo602: did you unzip and run 'make' ? did you get an error?04:37
kaatiloh well at least game trailers video does work.. when i use GL for video displaying.04:37
endo602fdoving04:37
endo602pm?04:38
kaatilanyway.. hi all04:38
fdovingendo602: sure.04:38
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bobby__is the flash 9 player also available in kubuntu?04:42
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BluesKajyes bobby__04:43
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bobby__BluesKaj: what is the packagename?04:44
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BluesKajbobby__, Shockwave Flash 9.0 d7804:45
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bobby__ty04:46
jamesbryanchuahey, i just installed kubuntu on my laptop, i'm having problems installing automatix2 :(04:46
Li`lEndiancan anyone tell me the difference between bind and dhcp3? does it not do the same thing? which is basically manage namespaces dynamically for network clients?04:47
stdineww, automatix04:47
jamesbryanchuawhat's wrong with automatix04:47
stdin!automatix04:48
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe04:48
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stdinthat's what wrong with it04:48
jamesbryanchuai see.04:48
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stdinwhat do you need it for?04:48
stdins/need/want/04:48
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jamesbryanchuanothing, really i just wanted a quick install of some useful programs.04:49
jamesbryanchuaE: Type 'deb' is not known on line 36 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list04:49
jamesbryanchuaE: The list of sources could not be read.04:49
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jamesbryanchuaoops04:49
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stdinyou have a " before deb in the sources.list04:50
morvokany know of a good p2p client for kubuntu?04:50
enoteewhats the best app for dowloading video podcast04:51
stdinthere is frostwire04:51
bobby__ktorrent rocks04:51
stdinp2p ^^04:51
morvokstdin: using Frostwire.. any other good ones?04:51
bobby__you could give apollon a try04:51
BluesKajktorrent's latest release is excellent04:51
stdinnope, I don't really use any p2p04:52
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stdinexcept ktorrent04:52
bobby__on gentoo i use utorrent but my second favorite is definatly ktorrent04:52
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BluesKajazureus was slowing down and din't work well with my router portforwarding04:53
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endo602fdoving thank you so much04:53
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bobby__i dont lie azureus to bloaded04:54
bobby__like*04:54
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fdovingendo602: you're welcome.04:55
bobby__i wish they would port utorrent to linux with a nice backend so there can be seperate gui's it works fine with wine but its a bit blinky04:55
lupine_85ktorrent++04:56
lupine_85rtorrent is also good04:56
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bobby__rtorrent dont know that one yet04:57
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BluesKajbobby__, I found utorrent was problematic with my setup too ...the first release was fine.. the updated one sucked in windows04:58
bobby__BluesKaj: 1600 works fine with me only thing withwine is that the treaths are sucky so it blinks on the windowdraws05:00
BluesKajwine ...forget wine05:00
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BluesKaj:)05:00
PhinnFortgoogle talk is a mess...05:01
bobby__BluesKaj: i think wine is a great effort though for some things you simply need win32 suport05:01
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alias__anyone know how to set up a fax to send and receive using Ubuntu?05:04
PhinnFortthe info pages on google talk of course doesn't mention kopete, and one pages says server is gmail.com, other says talk.google.com, third says googlemail.com, and one page says 5222 won't work and that i should use 5223, other says exactly the opposite...05:04
PhinnFortkfax05:04
PhinnFort!fax05:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fax - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:05
PhinnFort!kfax05:05
ubotukfax: G3/G4 fax viewer for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 143 kB, installed size 444 kB05:05
alias__how do I get it?05:05
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krisHey, people.05:05
bobby__apt-get install kfax?05:05
PhinnFortapt-get install kfax?05:05
alias__no "sudo" first?05:05
bobby__details05:06
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PhinnFort:P05:06
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krisJust a quick Q...does anyone know of any issues of running kub on an Inspiron 6400?05:06
PhinnFortthank $DEITY for the genius kde devs05:06
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cloakableI have a samba server running, but whenever I run smbtree, I get this error for my server: cli_start_connection: failed to connect to CLOAKABLE<20> (0.0.0.0)05:07
cloakableCan anyone halp?05:07
cloakable*help05:07
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bobby__kris: i dont know but i do know that kubuntu has great out of the box laptop support05:07
kristhankyou bobby05:07
PhinnFortyou need garlix05:08
PhinnFort*garlic05:08
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siv0xCan anyone help me get ALSAs OSS Emulater set up?05:08
krisi saw someone had no issues with installing ubuntu on a dell 6400 i was just wondering if there were any differeces...appart from the window manager05:08
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siv0xkris: what type of ubuntu installation disk are you going to use?05:09
PhinnFortspam is stupid05:09
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krisI downloaded the edgy05:10
krisoff the kubuntu site05:10
siv0xkris: LiveCD?05:10
xorhi, how can i install kubuntu on my existing RAID1 and RAID5 arrays?05:10
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krisDownload Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) CD05:11
kris^^ ignore the download it was a quote off the site :P05:11
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krisi think that it is live cd05:11
krisyeh, of course it is05:11
krisyes, its the standard install cd...not the text only05:12
siv0xkris: i dont think you'll have any problems.. maybe with sound and video drivers.05:12
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krisi can get the ATI X1400 drivers off their site05:12
siv0xkris: ofcourse : )05:12
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krisand the sound for the SigmaTel audio should be around somewhere05:12
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kris...well, i am going to try and get thais all installed...thanks for your help, Siv0z and bobby :)05:13
krisBye *wave*05:13
siv0xkris: gl.05:14
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bobby__i think alsa supports sigmatel stuff05:15
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PhinnFortwhat is that funny name of the animation in the top right corner of browsers?05:15
alias__kfax doesn't receive faxes05:15
PhinnForttry hylafax05:16
PhinnForti've heard it's good05:16
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morvokKtorrent works very well, thanks guys05:17
PhinnFort<3 ktorrent05:17
bobby__actually im sure alsa suppors some sigmatel stuff im listening to one right now : )05:17
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alias__"couldn't find package hylafax"05:18
PhinnFort!hylafax05:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hylafax - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:19
PhinnFortsorry, i've never used my computer as a fax machine, just heard hylafax was good05:19
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PhinnForthmm, seems like hylafax is a fax server05:20
alias__I see05:20
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alias__Oh well, guess I will have to use XP for faxes :(05:21
PhinnForthttp://www.vgcomputing.com.au/lsfaxserver.html ?05:21
PhinnForthttp://www.cce.com/efax/05:21
bobby__alias__: efax is probably what you need05:21
alias__not free05:22
bobby__there is also a gtk frontend for efax05:22
siv0xCan anyone help me get ALSAs OSS Emulater set up?05:22
alias__efax is free for one year, then you gotta pay05:22
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PhinnFortalias__: how not free?05:22
PhinnFortsiv0x: you configure your own kernel?05:22
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siv0xOhinnFort: Well.. no - i'm pretty knew with linux.05:23
PhinnFortalias__: i'm/we're talking about the program, not the service05:23
PhinnFortplease look at the link i provided05:23
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PhinnFortit's as free as it gets;)05:24
PhinnFortgpl and everything05:24
siv0xme?05:24
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PhinnFortno05:25
siv0xk. lol05:25
PhinnFortsiv0x: ;)05:25
laso...how to instal yahoo....05:25
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PhinnFortla: ?05:25
layea?05:25
alias__they've changed it to 30 days for free: http://www.efax.com/en/efax/twa/page/homePage05:25
siv0xPhinnFort: I'm so confused about all this.. I've been sitting here trying to figure out where to start for 3 hours. I need this setup because: I dont have sound in any game i play with WINE.05:26
PhinnFortah...05:26
lahuh05:26
PhinnFortmodprobe snd-pcm-oss05:26
PhinnFort?05:26
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PhinnFortla: whaddaya mean install yahoo?05:26
bobby__alias__: just sudo apt-get install efax-gtk05:26
PhinnFortor http://ksendfax.sourceforge.net/05:27
bobby__its free! distributed under gpl v205:27
PhinnFortsiv0x: did it work?05:27
lai dont understand the question05:27
siv0xPhinnFort: Configuring my own kernal?05:27
PhinnFortnope05:27
PhinnFortsiv0x: modprobe snd-pcm-oss05:27
PhinnForti hope it's the right modile05:27
PhinnFort*module05:27
siv0xPhinnFort: oh, one sec i'll try it05:27
PhinnFortdon't care for firing up xconfig;)05:27
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PhinnFortsiv0x: if it doesn't work: "sudo apt-get install alsa-oss"05:28
layahoo messanger ?!?05:28
stdinla: use kopete05:28
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PhinnFort2. that05:29
lai dont have that05:29
stdinif you have kubuntu, you have kopete05:29
lawhere05:29
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PhinnFortunder k-menu -> "internet" -> "kopete"05:30
stdinKmenu -> Internet -> kopete05:30
PhinnFortor press ALT and F2 and type "kopete" and hit enter05:30
siv0xPhinnFort: nope, didnt work let me get alsa-oss05:30
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PhinnFortok05:31
siv0xPhinnFort: K, got alsa-oss, that it?05:31
PhinnForthope so;)05:31
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laokey05:31
PhinnFortif not a reboot should be the easiest solution05:31
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phobiacI'm trying to get java working with firefox, and I'm following the guide here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Java_Development_Kit_.28JDK.29_v5.005:32
lathanks05:32
siv0xPhinnfort: didnt work, reboot?05:32
PhinnFortno problem05:32
phobiacIt says to download JDK version 5, but there is a version 6. Should I stick with version 5?05:32
PhinnFortsiv0x: i'm not exactly sure how that package is intended to work, so a reboot is probably the easiest05:32
bobby__wait05:33
bobby__siv0x wait05:33
ZeroSystemhello, i downloaded the kubunta live CD from greece mirror but its currupted and the MD5 sum doesnt match05:33
phobiacOh wait, not JDK. JRE.05:33
siv0xbobby__: K?05:33
ZeroSystemthe one drapper version05:33
bobby__sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart05:33
PhinnFortZeroSystem: get it from otherwhere?05:33
bobby__try that05:33
PhinnFortyeah05:33
PhinnFort:D05:33
ZeroSystemwhat is the different between cd and dvd05:33
siv0xbobby__: it restarted alsa.05:34
bobby__yep05:34
siv0xbobby__: should i open my game back up and try again?05:34
bobby__yes05:34
phobiacZero: It's a difference in how the data is stored I think.05:34
PhinnFortrotfl, even with a SD card to load system files from, vista only goes from 43 to 14 secs...05:34
lafunny working05:34
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bobby__rebooting would have done the same thing05:34
PhinnFortyeah05:34
phobiacAlmost like a different filesystem?05:34
stdinphobiac: enable multiverse and install sun-java5-jdk for the development kit, sun-java5-jre and sun-java5-plugin for jre and plugin for FF05:34
PhinnForti didn't know what the service was named05:34
PhinnFort:P05:34
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ZeroSystem(PhinnFort): is the dvd better or cd or they are much the same ?05:35
siv0xbobby__: no sound =\05:35
phobiacstdin: Thanks05:35
stdin:D05:35
PhinnFortZeroSystem: if you have DSL or other persistant internet, just get the CD05:35
PhinnFortthen you can download software as you need it05:35
jerp!flash > jerp05:35
bobby__siv0x: does the game use openal?05:35
siv0xbobby__: openal? not sure05:36
PhinnFortprobably not05:36
siv0xbobby__: the game is counter strike source, btw.05:36
PhinnFortwine just spits out its sound to /dev/pcm afaik05:36
bobby__counterstrike sounds like a game that would use openal05:37
bobby__wait one sec05:37
PhinnFortthey probably use directx-something05:37
PhinnFortwhich wine emulates05:37
PhinnFortdirectaudio, hm?05:37
siv0xbobby_ k05:37
BluesKajprolly windows media05:37
PhinnFortdoubt it05:37
PhinnForteither some proprietary game sound format, wav or ogg05:38
BluesKajoh, games ... who cares :)05:38
PhinnFortogg is pretty darned good, and many game devs know it;)05:38
PhinnFort:P05:38
PhinnForti like this one: http://warpedvisions.org/2006/12/30/ten-things-linux-distros-get-right-that-ms-doesnt/05:39
BluesKajbuy a friggin PS and be done with it05:39
PhinnFortrotfl05:39
laso why to instal yahoo through konsole is so dificu lt05:39
bobby__siv0x: i want you to make a file called ~/.openalrc05:39
PhinnFortla: use kopete!05:39
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siv0xbobby__: like were the .wine folder is?05:40
lai do, but why i can't have normal yahooo?05:40
PhinnFortnormal yahoo is bad05:40
bobby__siv0x: wine?05:40
bobby__are you using wine?05:40
PhinnFortkopete is integrated into KDE05:40
lahow05:40
siv0xbobby__: yes.05:40
binksbobby all sorted now thanks ;)05:40
bobby__ow lol05:40
PhinnFortbobby__: :P05:41
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siv0xbobby__: lol sorry i didnt tell you i thought you knew.05:41
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bobby__no i wanted you to make it in the exact spot i gave you ~/ is the home dir05:41
siv0xbobby_: also.. the speaker configuration doesnt save. i set it to headphones ingame and clicked apply but everytime i shut the game down and reopen it, that setting is set blank.05:42
bobby__you can try it though i dont know whether wine uses openal05:42
siv0xbobby__: k i'll make the folder.05:42
bobby__put this in it:05:42
bobby__(define devices '(alsa))05:42
bobby__>05:42
bobby__> # Four speaker surround with ALSA05:42
bobby__> (define speaker-num 2)05:42
bobby__> (define alsa-out-device "hw:0,0")05:42
bobby__no not a folder05:42
bobby__a file text file05:42
siv0xbobby__: in /home/ ?05:42
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bobby__make this file: ~/.openalrc05:43
PhinnFortla: yahoo: http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/msg/6/gr/unix/scr_msgrlist.gif kopete: http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/40797-1.png05:43
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bobby__and the > should not be in there btw sorry about that some lowsy pasting of me05:44
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PhinnForttell me which looks the best;)05:44
siv0xbobby__: first off, how do i get to that dir?05:44
siv0xbobby__: i'm a nub.05:44
bobby__erm you home dir?05:44
bobby__cd ~05:44
PhinnFortjus cd05:44
siv0xbobby__: k05:45
PhinnFort*just05:45
PhinnFortcd without arguments just takes you to home(~)05:45
siv0xsiv0x@siv0x-desktop:~$ cd05:45
siv0xsiv0x@siv0x-desktop:~$05:45
bobby__yes05:45
siv0xk05:45
bobby__you where already in home dir05:45
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laso how to register to could have private chat ?05:46
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bobby__do you see the ~ before the $?05:46
kulbirmy dvd rw is not working.05:46
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siv0xso how do i create a text file there?05:46
PhinnFortmagic?05:46
PhinnForti think so05:46
siv0xbobby__: yes i see that.05:46
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PhinnFortnano .filename05:46
kulbirwhen i try to access thme, i get the following error.05:46
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bobby__nano .openalrc05:47
kulbirmount: no medium found05:47
kulbircan anyone help me?05:47
PhinnFortkulbir: did you put it in the right way?05:47
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PhinnFortshiny side down?05:47
siv0xk05:47
PhinnFort;)05:47
bobby__than put this in there:05:47
kulbirPhinnFort: yes05:47
bobby__(define devices '(alsa))05:47
bobby__(define alsa-out-device "hw:0,0")05:48
kulbirPhinnFort: the dvd rw works find in windows xp.05:48
siv0xk05:48
bobby__than hit crtl x05:48
kulbirfine*05:48
PhinnFortkulbir: have you tried another disk?05:48
PhinnFortmaybe windows destroyed it05:48
jerp!gnash > jerp05:48
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bobby__you will be promted to save the file05:48
kulbiryes i have tried05:48
bobby__a d05:48
bobby__and you do05:48
siv0xbobby__ k saved it05:49
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PhinnFortctrl o ctrl x05:49
bobby__ok give it another try if that didnt work its an wine related error05:49
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endo602what is a good ident server to use?05:50
laok so how to use  more messanger than yahoo by this kopete ?05:50
kulbirPhinnFort: plz help me05:50
siv0xthose two lines is all i need in there bobby?05:50
layeah05:50
PhinnFortwhat is the last output from dmesg?05:50
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PhinnFortkulbir: dmesg | tail05:50
bobby__siv0x: yes05:51
bobby__it should force openal to use alsa05:51
siv0xbobby__: nope.. didnt work. i think the problem is that when i choose a speaker configuration, and set it to headphones it dont save. because when i close and open the game up, that setting is still left blank on audio.05:52
PhinnFortsiv0x: have you tried running winecfg and fiddling with the options?05:52
siv0xbobby__: i'm not going to get sound from alsa, the game needs to use OSS, thats why i wanted ALSA to emulate OSS.05:52
kulbirPhinnFort: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/84854005:52
PhinnFortsiv0x: there's a tab called "Audio" with some interesting options05:52
siv0xPhinnFort: Yes. they told me in #winehq that i needed to get ALSAs OSS Emulater setup.05:52
bobby__i think theproblem isnt alsa related05:53
PhinnFortsiv0x: ls /dev/pcm05:53
PhinnFortsiv0x: you need to activate oss sound in winecfg too, after enabling alsa oss emulation05:53
kulbirPhinnFort:  http://pastebin.com/848542 ( dmesg | tail)05:53
siv0xls /dev/pcm05:53
siv0xsiv0x@siv0x-desktop:~$ ls /dev/pcm05:53
siv0xls: /dev/pcm: No such file or directory05:53
PhinnFortyou don't have alsa oss emu05:53
PhinnForttry a reboot05:53
PhinnFortafaik05:54
PhinnFortkulbir: try inserting a dvdrw again, and then do dmesg | tail05:54
siv0xPhinnFort: I did. and i checked were it says "Driver Emulation"05:55
PhinnFortdo the whole shebang, so the kernel gets a go05:55
siv0xPhinnFort: k i'll brb, i'll reboot05:55
kulbirPhinnFort: reboot05:55
PhinnFortfrack...05:56
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PhinnFort*properly05:56
bobby__bsg :)05:56
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jerpI've got up to twenty gnash entries in my KSysGuard, but my gnash player isn't playing.   Any hints to help would be appreciated?05:56
PhinnFort:D05:56
PhinnFortjust had the theme on my ipod05:56
PhinnFortjerp: it's extremely experimental05:56
PhinnFortstandalone or integrated into a webpage?05:57
JohnFluxjerp: maybe kill all the processes, and try again?05:57
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jbchua1my taskbar disappeared. any way to get it back without rebooting?05:57
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siv0xk now test the game?05:57
JohnFluxjbchua1: run "kicker"05:57
jerpjohn I tried to kill from KSysGuard but it doesn't flush it out to show the change took place05:57
brandon_does anyone know of any audio editing programs in repo besides audacity?05:57
la                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            \05:58
JohnFluxjerp: then maybe the process didn't die05:58
jbchua1error: kicker is already running05:58
JohnFluxjbchua1: killall kicker; kicker     maybe :/05:58
PhinnFortjerp: killall gnash -s KILL05:58
jbchua1JohnFlux: thanks :)05:58
BluesKajbrandon_, gnormalize seems to have editing ..dunno how extensive they are tho05:58
jbchua1JohnFlux: wait nvm, it disappeared again.05:59
PhinnForti'm waiting for the POSIX people to integrate the KILLKILLKILL signal05:59
bobby__siv0x: do you have a pcm device now?05:59
JohnFluxjbchua1: doesn't sound good :(05:59
brandon_BluesKaj: i don't think it's in repos05:59
jbchua1sigh.05:59
jbchua1reboot?05:59
siv0xbobby_ what was the command to check?05:59
JohnFluxjbchua1: hmm05:59
PhinnFortsiv0x: ls /dev/pcm06:00
JohnFluxjbchua1: just log out and log in should work06:00
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JohnFluxjbchua1: but i have a feeling it won't work06:00
siv0xsiv0x@siv0x-desktop:~$ ls /dev/pcm06:00
siv0xls: /dev/pcm: No such file or directory06:00
siv0xsiv0x@siv0x-desktop:~$06:00
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BluesKajyeah brandon_, it's non free I think06:00
PhinnFortsiv0x: dmesg | grep -i oss06:00
brandon_what does that mean?06:00
jerpthey still aren't flushed from my KSysGuard06:00
siv0xsiv0x@siv0x-desktop:~$ dmesg | grep -i oss06:00
siv0x[17179591.848000]  Adding 867468k swap on /dev/disk/by-uuid/551ff4ed-fdc9-4392-8f49-1259ea030541.  Priority:-1 extents:1 across:867468k06:00
jerpafter Phinn's command entered in a term06:01
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PhinnFortit means it will eat your soul06:01
PhinnFortjerp: try 'ps aux'06:01
PhinnFort-s KILL should've strangled them06:02
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siv0xPhinnFort: Did it work?06:02
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JohnFluxjerp: does:   ps aux | grep gnash      show them?06:02
jerpthey are <defunct>06:02
PhinnFortsiv0x: nope06:02
PhinnFortsiv0x: wait, i'll fire up the kernel config and find the name of the module06:03
siv0xPhinnFort: : ( lol06:03
jerpnow after ps aux06:03
JohnFluxjerp: hmm thought so06:03
PhinnFort;)06:03
siv0xPhinnFort: Thanks06:03
JohnFluxjerp: the process is dead but there's another process that launched them06:03
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JohnFluxjerp: and that process still lives06:03
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JohnFluxjerp: in ksysguard, use the tree view to see what their parent is06:03
JohnFluxhmm06:04
JohnFluxi should add that as a feature to ksysguard06:04
bobby__siv0x: yes the modules06:04
jerpthey are flushed now06:04
jerplet me reload a webpage06:04
bobby__now i remember you need to load the modules that is it06:04
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PhinnFortsiv0x: didn't want to flood this channel;)06:05
siv0xphinnfort: np. i type those all in konsole?06:05
kulbirPhinnFort: same result with dmesg | tail06:05
PhinnFortonly the last command06:05
PhinnFortkulbir: dmesg | grep -i dvd06:05
brandon_i can't delete a file after sudo chmod 777'ing it, how can I delete it?06:05
PhinnFortbrandon_: change the folder06:06
PhinnFortthe perms of the folder that is06:06
siv0xPhinnFort: Was was those other 3 for?06:06
jerpjohnflux  the parent is firefox-bin06:06
brandon_i did, i chmod'ed the folder06:06
brandon_and no go06:06
PhinnFortsiv0x: it's the kernel modules06:06
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PhinnFortbrandon_: lsof [filename] 06:06
bobby__siv0x: modprobe snd-mixer-oss06:06
kulbirPhinnFort: [17179578.724000]  hda: SONY DVD RW DW-G120A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive06:07
JohnFluxjerp: you might have to kill that06:07
kulbirPhinnFort: [17179579.992000]  hda: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R-RAM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(66)06:07
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PhinnFortsiv0x: it's just the files themselves, the last command was the command to insert them06:07
bobby__siv0x: modprobe snd-pcm-oss06:07
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brandon_PhinnFort: Could not write to file /media/Smith/.Trash-1000/info/asdf.trashinfo.06:07
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siv0xphinnfort: that last command didnt work. i think you might have misstyped it or something.06:08
jbchua1My taskbar has disappeared-- ran kicker, logged out, rebooted. taskbar still not reappearing06:08
ScokHappy New Year!!06:08
siv0xbobby_: didnt get an error when i typed your two commands though.06:08
PhinnFortsiv0x: do them one by one then06:09
PhinnFortas bobby__ said, and add the last one too06:09
PhinnFortjbchua1: run konsole, and in that run kicker06:09
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PhinnFortsiv0x: i don't misstype;)06:09
siv0xPhinnFort: got them. you typed  modprobe snd-sex-oss snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss instead it was modprobe snd-sex-oss snd pcm-oss- snd-mixer-oss.06:10
PhinnFortok06:10
PhinnForti was typing them out by hand;)06:10
jbchua1PhinnFort:  i ran kicker already06:10
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siv0xPhinnFort: its all good.06:10
kulbirPhinnFort: plz help me06:10
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PhinnFortjbchua1: do it in a terminal06:10
jbchua1error: kicker is already running!06:10
PhinnFortjbchua1: killall kicker -s KILL06:11
PhinnFortthen run kicker again06:11
jerpjohnflux, the flashplayer screen blinks once and goes gray, just like before06:11
PhinnFortkulbir: could you post the whole dmesg?06:11
PhinnFortjerp: it's crashing06:11
kulbiryes06:11
jbchua1PhinnFort: thanks06:11
PhinnFortit's highly alpha06:11
Chousukeprobably no need to killall -9 it :P06:11
JohnFluxjbchua1: ah you came back06:11
PhinnForti like to KILL06:11
PhinnFort;)06:11
Chousukekilling is messy06:11
JohnFluxjbchua1: i think you might have to delete all your kicker settings sorry06:11
PhinnFortbut it saves some time06:11
JohnFluxjbchua1: the files are in ~/.kde/share/apps/kicker/06:12
PhinnFortjbchua1: just mv them06:12
PhinnForttake a backup06:12
PhinnFortdon't delete;)06:12
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siv0xPhinnFort: Still no sound bro.06:12
PhinnForthrm06:12
PhinnFortdmesg?06:13
bobby__siv0x: did you restard alsa?06:13
siv0xbobby__: no.. command? lol06:13
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bobby__sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart06:13
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siv0xbobby__ k restarted. lemme try again06:14
kulbirPhinnFort: http://rafb.net/p/2V7Mvw65.html06:14
jerpphinn, would you have a trusted howto page to install 'whatever' on an amd64 with a 32chroot?06:14
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PhinnFortjerp: imho, chrooting is silly:P06:14
PhinnFortjust get the 32-bit libs and put them in /usr/lib3206:14
jerpok06:15
PhinnFortkulbir: did you try with a dvdrw first?06:15
siv0xbobby__ still no sound06:15
PhinnFortsiv0x: how's winecfg?06:15
kulbirPhinnFort: it is works fine under xp.06:15
PhinnFortjerp: you want flash?06:15
PhinnFortkulbir: but you need to make the kernel try, so it says what is wrong06:16
kulbirPhinnFort: when i try to mount dvd rw. i get error msg.06:16
jerpphinn, I want to watch some flash movies, yes06:16
bobby__siv0x: for some reason the /dev/pcm still doesnt exist06:16
PhinnForttry to open a dvdrw, THEN paste dmesg06:16
PhinnFortjerp: get opera?06:16
PhinnFortok?06:16
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jerpok, is that in multiverse rep?06:16
bobby__siv0x: im used to work on gentoo and here it makes them when the snd-pcm-oss module is loaded06:17
PhinnForthttp://porg.es/blog/opera-9-on-ubuntu-dapper-with-amd6406:17
PhinnFortjerp: if you get opera installed, flash will work in it06:17
jerpthanks :) phinn06:17
bobby__siv0x: i cant help you any more sorry mate that is all i know about it06:17
PhinnForti used to compile oss support in06:17
PhinnFort(under gentoo)06:17
bobby__yeah me too06:17
bobby__useflags :)06:17
PhinnFort:)06:18
PhinnFortcompile *everything* :(06:18
bobby__but still need to load the modules06:18
PhinnFortyeah06:18
jbchua1PhinnFort: my taskbar came back, but now my sound doesn't work. :\06:18
bobby__yes that is the major drawback06:18
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PhinnFortthat's why i switched to kubuntu06:18
siv0xbobby__: it is okay06:18
PhinnFort:)06:18
siv0xbobby__ thanks for trying.06:18
PhinnFortjbchua1: what did it say?06:18
bobby__np06:18
PhinnFortsiv0x: wait a sec, mkay?06:18
bobby__ok06:19
bobby__im going to eat06:19
=== PhinnFort too
PhinnFortafterwards06:19
PhinnFort:)06:19
bobby__ later guys06:19
siv0xPhinnFort: K06:19
siv0xbobby__ do i need to delete that file?06:19
jbchua1PhinnFort: long error message.06:19
siv0xbobby__: the one that you told me to make.06:19
kulbirPhinnFort: what do u think. my dvd rw is detected or not?06:19
PhinnFortsee ya06:20
PhinnFortsiv0x: do you have stuff under ls /dev/snd/ ?06:20
bobby__no06:20
PhinnFortif so, go whine to the wine guys again, and say that you have oss emu working06:20
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bobby__siv0x: that file is a configuration file for openal if yyou do have a app that uses openal and doesnt work try removing it than06:21
PhinnFortkulbir: it is06:21
bobby__most likely the settings i gave you are the ones you need though06:21
jbchua1PhinnFort: any clue on getting my sound back?06:21
PhinnFortkulbir: it's the DVD-RW disc that's the problem06:21
PhinnFortjbchua1: try restarting arts06:21
siv0xbobby__: k06:22
PhinnFortgo into controlthingy06:22
PhinnFortkcontrol06:22
siv0xPhinnFort: yes i have files under that now.06:22
PhinnFortsearch for sound, clicky sound system and clickety off, apply, clickety on, apply06:22
PhinnFortsiv0x: then you're good, wine bad06:22
PhinnFortyou shouldn've gotten a link to /dev/pcm, but that's not important06:23
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PhinnFortbut go bugger the wine people06:23
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kulbirPhinnFort: now i am inserting cd .06:23
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siv0xPhinnFort: they said they didnt need noobs.06:23
PhinnFortjerp: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304267&highlight=opera+amd6406:23
PhinnFortsiv0x: where they?06:23
siv0xPhinnFort: You mean what there channel is?06:24
PhinnFortsiv0x: yeah06:24
kulbirPhinnFort: sudo mount /dev/hda /media/cd >>>> mount: No medium found06:24
PhinnFortkulbir: now please post dmesg06:24
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kulbirPhinnFort: http://rafb.net/p/PnWN8F60.html06:26
jerpmaybe I should reconsider, this is getting more drawn out than I expected and intimidates my newbie-ness06:26
PhinnFort;)06:26
PhinnFortit's pretty straightforward, isn't it?06:26
PhinnFortjerp: you could just use the 32-bit kubuntu, too06:26
jerpyeah, that's true06:27
PhinnFortkulbir: sorry, i can't see what's wrong06:27
PhinnForti can't help you:(06:27
kulbirPhinnFort: k thanks06:27
PhinnFortnp06:27
jbchua1PhinnFort: it keeps going to 100% than just coming back down...06:28
PhinnFortjbchua1: what?06:28
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jbchua1PhinnFort: when I disable sound06:28
jbchua1PhinnFort: and re-enable it it just keeps going.06:28
PhinnFortdoes it make sound?06:28
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jbchua1PhinnFort: none.06:29
PhinnFortwell, i really have to go now06:29
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jerpphinn, is there a sweet-little apt-get command to facilitate the installation of the necessary 32-bit libs?06:31
BluesKajwhat's the command to run check.sh ...it won't run even tho i have it in my home folder06:31
HymnToLifeBluesKaj, is it exacutable ?06:32
HymnToLifes/exa/exe06:32
BluesKajyes HymnToLife, it is06:32
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endo602anyone know how to configure pidentd to use a specific ident id?06:33
HymnToLifeBluesKaj, how are you trying to run it ?06:34
HymnToLife./foo.sh or sh foo.sh ?06:34
jonathan_how do i unlock adept06:35
jonathan_basically it is locked by some packages that wont install06:35
HymnToLifejonathan_, sudo apt-get upgrade06:35
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HymnToLifepaste the errors you get ?06:35
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jonathan_no i get a message saying i cant install any packages because something is looking adept06:36
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HymnToLifethat was not a question, sorry :)06:36
jonathan_ ya hymn there is some command that i put into teh shell and it finishes installing the packages taht r locking adept06:37
HymnToLiferun sudo apt-get upgrade and paste the errors you get so we can find out what the problem is06:37
jerptry apt-get autoclean06:37
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molotoff__happy new your!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:38
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jonathan_this is what it said when i did apt-get autoclean E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.06:39
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jonathan_wheres the bot when u need help lol06:41
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endo602anyone know how do set up a specific ident?06:41
Admiral_Chicagojonathan_: anything I can help with?06:41
jonathan_adept manager is locked again06:41
zorglu_!adept crash fix06:41
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'06:41
jonathan_lol speak of the devil here is ubotu lol06:42
jonathan_thats the command i was looking for06:42
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jonathan_thanks admiral06:42
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jonathan_for offering ur linux wisdom lol06:43
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jontecI am getting the error: "syntax error, unexpected kEND, expecting $end" see http://pastebin.com/848570 for file. WHY!?!06:47
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siv0xOkay.. i seem to have my alsa oss emulater setup but i still dont have any sound through cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp :\06:51
MDCorehey all. I'm trying to set up a dwl-g650+ card in my laptop. The lights don't come on and I don't see any dev/ath0 (which is the device name in the forums). anyone have any ideas ?06:52
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andreaswIs there a way to open I directory from konqueror really fast in Konsole?06:54
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andreaswander windows you can right click and open with cmd06:54
andreaswunder06:54
HymnToLifeandreasw, F406:54
HymnToLifeyou can also have a Konsole window directly in your Konqueror06:55
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OODor right click, actions. open terminal here06:55
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andreaswHymnToLife: Thank you very mush that was exaclty I was looking for ;)06:55
andreaswIs there somewhere a overview about kde shortcuts?06:56
Admiral_Chicagoyou could just use your terminal for evertything :P06:57
Admiral_Chicagoandreasw: look in global shortcuts, I forget where that is06:58
jontecsorry I posted in the wrong window :D06:58
andreaswAdmiral_Chicago: well using terminal for everything is a little bit outdated I find a combination between GUI and Console works best for me06:58
Admiral_Chicagoyea i know, I had to get back to GUI after I was trying to have a conversation with my terminal...I thought I was on AIM but I was mistaken06:59
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siv0xhey how can i get sound on: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp I have ALSAs OSS Emulater.. anyone know?07:01
HymnToLifesiv0x, maybe use dd instead07:01
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HymnToLife(sudo) dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/dsp bs=1024 count=n07:02
HymnToLifewill send n kilobytes of data07:02
siv0xHymnToLife: dont know.. thats what they gave me in #winehq because i am trying to get sound on a game. =\07:02
endo602how can i setup an ident on kubuntu?07:02
siv0xso, sudo dd /dev/urandom > /dev/dps ?07:03
HymnToLifenah07:03
HymnToLifethe one I just told you07:03
siv0xand that will fix my sound in game?07:03
HymnToLifecertainly not07:04
HymnToLifeit will just make your sound play random junk07:04
HymnToLifeI guess they told you to do that to see if it's working07:04
siv0xIF my alsa oss is working properly?07:04
siv0xyeah07:04
siv0xk07:04
siv0xHymnToLife: can i pm you and paste you what it said?07:05
HymnToLifecertainly07:05
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siv0xHymnToLife: didnt hear anything =\07:09
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Siv0xHymnToLife: can you help me set up my ALSAs OSS Emulater?07:14
Siv0xor anyone..07:14
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endo602anyone with ident expertese arround?07:23
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RealisticDragonevening07:30
endo602evening07:31
endo602know anything about ident?07:31
RealisticDragonyes07:32
RealisticDragonwhats the problem? :)07:32
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endo602i wanna use the ident end@******07:33
endo602but i cant seem to figure pidentd07:33
mindspinI can mount usb devices only via kdesu konqueror... that#s unconfortable, where do I have to set accessss to usb devices07:33
RealisticDragonhmmm i cant remember which ident server i used to use07:34
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endo602pidentd is confusing07:34
endo602i dont really get where to put the ident id07:34
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Siv0xAnyone know how to get sound in CS:S with WINE, my problem is that i'm not getting sound in cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp.07:35
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dwidmannSiv0x: do you have sound at all? If so, do you have sound in other apps that run through wine?07:36
sockethi07:36
sockethappy new year for all of.. you07:36
andreaswhere we don't have new year yet ^^07:36
dwidmannhappy new year socket07:36
andreaswbut thanks anyway hehe07:36
kulbir_socket: same to u07:36
dwidmann(even though I've got another 11 hours and 21 minutes to wait)07:37
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sockethre its 0hr midnight07:37
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andreasw4 hours and 21 minutes here07:37
kulbir_socket: where u from?07:37
socketINDIA07:37
Siv0xdwidmann: only thing that i have that runs in WINE is Steam. and yes i have sound on non wine apps.07:37
kulbir_socket: city?07:38
socketBangalore07:38
kulbir_im from punjab.07:38
socketoye07:38
dwidmannSiv0x: Maybe WINE is misconfigured? try running (I think) winecfg07:38
Siv0xdwidmann: i've tried that.. tried what they said in #winehq and everything, still no sound =07:39
kulbir_socket: haje07:39
socketsee u buddy got to go07:39
dwidmannSiv0x: what did you set the sound to in winecfg?07:39
socketand nope - happy new year to ubuntu team07:39
socketbye07:39
kulbir_bye07:40
Siv0xdwidmann: they said to join my distros support chan and ask them how to setup my ALSAs OSS emulater07:40
joseito-vecocket = happy new year to ou07:40
Siv0xdwidmann: i set it to OSS.07:40
joseito-ve*you07:40
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dwidmannSiv0x: try installing the alsa-oss package07:40
dwidmannSiv0x: sudo aptitude install alsa-oss07:41
Siv0xdwidmann: tried that too07:41
Siv0xdwidmann: i set all that up.07:41
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NamShubim trying to batch extract files.. I do: for f in `ls *.7z`; do \ 7z e "$f"; \ done07:42
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NamShubit doesnt work with files with spaces07:42
dwidmannhmmmm07:42
NamShubok ls -b will do the job :)07:43
NamShubor not :(07:44
NamShubany clue?07:44
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dwidmannSiv0x: try setting the sound in winecfg to alsa? what does it do then?07:45
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Siv0xdwidmann: no sound, counter strike source cannot "detect" alsa. and therefor i have no sound.07:47
Siv0xdwidmann: this is why i need the alsa oss emulater.07:47
dwidmannSiv0x: that's what the alsa-oss package _is_ though07:48
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Siv0xdwidmann: i know.07:48
dwidmann!info alsa-oss07:48
ubotualsa-oss: ALSA wrapper for OSS applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.11-1 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 216 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha amd64 arm armeb hppa m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc)07:48
Siv0xdwidmann: and i have all that..07:48
Siv0xdwidmann: thats why i'm so clueless on what there is else that i havent done.07:48
hyper_ch!nvidia07:49
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:49
dwidmannSiv0x: I dunno then .. I'd have to download wine again to figure it out I suppose, but that would take a while07:49
Siv0xdwidmann: nah thats okay.07:49
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Siv0xdwidmann: i should be getting sound through cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp - this shows if my oss emulater is working or not.07:50
dwidmannSiv0x: and what does it do, does it just not play a sound, or does it spit out an error?07:51
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Siv0xdwidmann: just spits out an error.07:51
Siv0xdwidmann: i mean, not an error, just doesnt play a sound.07:51
dwidmannDevice or resource busy I presume?07:51
dwidmannoh07:51
Siv0xdwidmann: can i pm you and paste you this, when i use a different command that does the same thing?07:52
dwidmann!pastebin07:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:52
Siv0xits only like 4 lines.. just wanted to do it the quick way.07:52
dwidmannoh, okay then07:53
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Siv0xdwidmann: did you get that?07:53
dwidmannyup07:53
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Siv0xdwidmann: thats why i'm so clueless. everything seems to be just fine.07:54
dwidmannSound in Linux is such a pain in the .....07:54
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Siv0xdwidmann: agreed.07:55
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coreymon77hi guys08:00
coreymon77do you people know anything about gag?08:00
coreymon77you know, the graphical boot loader08:00
HymnToLife!gag08:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gag - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:01
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cathal!newyear :-)08:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about newyear :-) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:03
coreymon77my friend was trying to uninstall  kubuntu (... :( ) and messed up his mbr08:04
coreymon77how does he fix it?08:04
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dwidmann!slap08:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about slap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:04
dwidmanncoreymon77: depends, either use a linux cd or some other os's cd, depending what he wants08:04
dwidmannprobably08:04
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krishi, it's me Kris again...08:05
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krisI have just tried to install kubuntu edgy off the live cd on my dell inspiron 6400...and it didn't even get past the splash screen08:06
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HymnToLife!alternate | kris08:07
ubotukris: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.08:07
coreymon77he wants to use windoze again08:07
coreymon77how does he restore his messed up mbr08:07
RealisticDragonhmmm id try pressing (f2?) at the boot prompt first08:07
RealisticDragonthen select the no-splash install option08:08
krisok...thanks...and to the mbr issue08:08
krisjust pop the windows cdrom in08:08
krisand open up the recovery console when you restart by pressing r08:08
RealisticDragoncoreymon77: you can repair the MBR to boot into windows with the windows install CD08:08
kris^^ yeh08:08
HymnToLifeyep you can08:08
RealisticDragonsorry, didnt see you already answering kris :)08:09
krisif you type help in the console that pops up the command is there and its obvious cause it has mbr in it08:09
krisfixmbr or repairmbr08:09
HymnToLifethe command is fixmbr08:09
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kristhere are also things like Win Tools that can be downloaded of the torrents, and i'm sure other websites that can help you gain access to tools that can re write the mbr08:10
kristhats the one08:10
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krishi, i don't suppose anyone has a download link to the Kubuntu Edgy Install CD do they?08:14
krisalternate edgy install cd, god i looked like a noob :P08:15
dwidmannjust go to http://kubuntu.org and click on download08:15
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Craig42when I have ubuntu installed, is there a way for it to recognize the windows partitions i have on my hard drive?08:20
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Admiral_ChicagoCraig42: yes08:22
metresDo anybody know how to fix this : im trying to install multi-cd game with wine but I am unable to change CD after installing the first one..?08:23
Admiral_Chicagoyou want to mount your NTFS partition08:23
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Siv0xAnyone know how to get sound in CS:S with WINE, my problem is that i'm not getting sound in cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp ?08:25
dwidmannmetres: that will prove to be a pain in the butt, I think I've seen a workaround involving perhaps doing the mounting from something like konsole, and another workaround I've seen involved making ISO images of the disks08:25
Siv0xkris: still having problems getting an edgy cd?08:26
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krisi am just trying something now...bare with me08:26
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linx-i was looking at kinfocenter, and in the memory section, that i had no swap space available.. but i do have a swap partition.. and a line containing that partition in fstab08:27
krisi think my disk drive has fucked up the burn08:27
krispardon my french08:28
dwidmannkris: do the burn with k3b, and select the option to check the md5s of the disk.08:28
Siv0xkris: lol08:28
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kristhe only think that is actually working in this room is a pc, running Microsoft Windows Xcrement08:29
dwidmanneewwwwwww08:29
kris:(08:29
dwidmannI see your point08:29
RealisticDragononce you get there itll seem much better :)08:29
dwidmannhow about running the check disk for errors thing when booting the cd?08:29
krisi did...08:29
krisit stopped about 80% and rebooted :)08:30
dwidmanndid it pass or fail? (It's pretty black and white)08:30
krisblue and white...and i guess it failed..08:30
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krisi am going to use a normal disk..and my good external writer to see if i can get better results...cause the ISO is fine i tested it on VMWare in SuSE08:31
dwidmannWhen I say it's pretty black and white, I mean it either passes or it fails, and that there isn't a gray area inbetween (no sort of passed or sort of failed options)08:31
krisi know...08:31
kris:P08:31
krisi was joking08:31
shadowhywindI was d to wondering if anyone was around that could help me set up my mic? I don't know if there is a special package that i have to install, or even how to "test" record something?08:31
Siv0xomg, this is driving me crazy08:31
krisSiv0x: ???08:32
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dwidmannI used to have trouble burning things, I went through about 30 disks to figure out what it was, turned out my one drive went bad :( It used to write good disks too08:32
Siv0xkris: no sound on sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/dsp bs=1024 count=1, althought it says its working.08:32
kris:/08:33
linx-hm.. the mount point for the swap partition is just called 'swap', right ?08:33
dwidmannlinx-: yup08:33
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andreaswdo you know whether kAudioCreater uses CD paranoia or it's own cd extraction method?08:34
dwidmanncd paranoia08:34
Siv0xkris: yep : (08:34
linx-from fstab (does this look?): UUID=bc859d5b-15e3-4c8f-be86-c330ec55e932 none swap defaults 0 008:34
linx-look right even08:34
dwidmannlast I checked anyway ..... anyhow, k3b rips cds faster :)08:34
andreaswdwidmann: probably because it doesn't any error correction ;)08:35
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dwidmannIt does plenty of error correction, if you want it to08:35
andreaswdwidmann: yep than it will be as slow as KAudioCreater hehe08:35
krisDwidmann: I am gonna try and burn this ISO nice and slow on my good drive, see if it is just a shite disk and a crappy burner...08:35
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dwidmannandreasw: kaudiocreator with all error correctio and cd paranoia and the like off is still quite a bit slower at ripping then k3b, in my experience08:37
Siv0xkris: yes burn it at the slowest option available.08:37
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dwidmannkaudiocreator tended to take 10-15 minutes or so for a disk, k3b is doing it in 2-708:37
krisSiv0x: yeh, normally works for me...i need to send this shit burner back...it has coastered loads of my disks in 2 days08:38
andreaswWell I don't care much about speed. I just want a very exact copy08:39
krisWhy so exact? you got some kind of FBI opperation going on there? :P08:39
krisappart from the fact that a badly written section can lead to having half of your OS installed on your network card :P08:40
Siv0xkris: :D08:40
kris*disk pops out*08:40
kris*looks healthy....*08:41
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krisback in a sec people :d08:42
kris:D08:42
Siv0xkris: If i can get my game working, i'm going to delete my windows partition :D08:42
Siv0xkris: k goodluck.08:42
krisSiv0x: thats the thing to do :d08:42
kris:D*08:42
Siv0xkris: yeppers.08:43
krisI am thinking of signing up with the people that do that specialised game emulation software08:43
krisso i can actually pwn n00bs08:43
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Siv0xkris: yeah that'd probably be alot better then WINE08:44
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flindetwhat cedega?08:44
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Siv0xwhats the command to see how much room i have on my hard drive?08:46
Siv0xor have left on my hd.08:47
HymnToLifeSiv0x, df08:47
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Siv0xHymnToLife: ty08:50
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AmazingRussanybody know what package i need for the opengl man pages?08:57
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ACK54Whey guys09:00
ACK54Wim stuck09:00
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kzsherllo09:06
sivaji_2009tell  me how to convert .tar.bz2 package to executable package09:06
sivaji_2009tell  me how to convert .tar.bz2 package to executable package09:07
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ACK54Wim stuck09:08
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metresHi guys, how do I restart sound server ? winecfg kill it...09:08
guptais it normal for xorg to take 15% Mem (total ram : 384) and 3-7% cpu ?09:10
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dwidmann50-60mb RAM for Xorg is fairly normal .... It's using 62mb at the moment on my system09:12
dwidmannmetres: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart09:12
sivaji_2009tell  me how to convert .tar.bz2 package to executable package09:13
metresthanks dwidmann09:13
sivaji_2009tell  me how to convert .tar.bz2 package to executable package09:13
dwidmannsivaji_2009: .tar.bz2 is a compressed archive (like a .zip file)09:13
dwidmannSo it really depends09:13
cntb!repeat | sivaji_200909:14
ubotusivaji_2009: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience09:14
RealisticDragongupta: a lot of xorg is shared libs so that 60mb gets recucled between a bunch of applications :)09:14
guptadwidmann: strange. puppy linux running completely from 128mb ram is able to run xorg09:15
guptaRealisticDragon: ok09:15
dmbkiwisivaji_2009: a .tar.bz2 file is a compressed archive of files a bit like a zip file.  Whether you can convert it to an executable is a different question.09:15
dmbkiwisivaji_2009: what is the file?09:15
RealisticDragoni dont think (k)ubuntu is tuned for low memory use, but for a balance between that and speed... its not targetted at low end machines... you get a trade off somewhere :)09:15
notechcould make a .deb from it09:16
dwidmanngupta: I think when fresh, It only takes up about 37mb ... so if you restart the xserver that will probably be about how much it will take up09:16
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RealisticDragonmy machine is hovering at 3.9gb/4gb ram in use at the moment with only firefox open :P 3.5gb *is* disk cache though...09:16
hepmewhen firefox crashes what log does it generate?09:17
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andreaswsivaji_2009: http://perso.orange.fr/coquelle/karchiver/09:17
sivaji_2009i am downloading kaffeine now in this format09:17
andreaswsivaji_2009: with that program you can create self extracting archives09:17
dwidmannif you're looking for something tuned for really low memory use, there's always DSL :)09:17
dwidmannsivaji_2009: that's probably the source tarball09:18
andreaswsivaji_2009: unpack the archive and recreate it than you got a self extracting archive hehe09:18
notechSiv0x: so you just want to install it?09:18
nilazitali09:18
sivaji_2009then ple tell me how to convert it to a exe file09:18
notechoops, wrong nick used09:18
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andreaswsivaji_2009: exe files aren't of any use in Linux09:19
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dwidmann.exe doesn't exist in linux, but to make an executable binary, you'll have to do a few things09:19
andreaswsivaji_2009: So why do you want to create exe files09:19
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notechwhy do you need it converted to an executable package?09:19
andreaswdwidmann: with one exception ^^ mono binaries09:19
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dwidmannfirst, switch on the source repositories for main and universe, then sudo aptitude update, then sudo aptitude build-dep kaffeine, then ./configure && make && sudo make install09:20
sivaji_2009i mean i want in executable fomat09:20
andreaswI just telled you a link to a program09:20
notechit's a tar.gz, just unpack it and read the README or INSTALL and install it09:21
andreaswmaybe it is already in an ubuntu repository09:21
dmbkiwisivaji_2009: you do realise you are using linux.  There is no such thing as an exe.09:21
Siv0xnotech: install what?09:21
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notechSiv0x: sorry, used your nick by accident09:21
Siv0xnotech: np09:21
sivaji_2009yes i know  all i need is a file that supports mpeg4, avi ,wmv09:22
dmbkiwisivaji_2009: assuming you are using kubuntu, you don't need to install kaffeine via a tar.bz2 file.  Open the software installer, and search for kaffeine and click install.  That's it.09:22
dwidmannSiv0x: I think someone used your nick accidentally09:23
dmbkiwisivaji_2009: If you want to play mpeg4, wmv etc, you'll need the win32codecs package.  google for automatix, which will give you an easy way to install them.09:23
sivaji_2009yes i got already but that is old version doesnot supports avi mpeg4, wmv09:23
dwidmanndmbkiwi, sivaji_2009: it gets even funnier/better yet, kaffeine is installed by default in Kubuntu ;)09:23
andreaswsivaji_2009: you really have to read more about Ubuntu most of your problems are already solved and well documented09:24
sivaji_2009tell me how to update that using adept package manger09:24
sivaji_2009tell me how to update that using adept package manager09:24
dwidmannsivaji_2009:  With regards to "the exe question", just to approach the question from another angle, kaffeine doesn't run on windows.09:24
dmbkiwisivaji_2009: update what?09:25
dwidmannsivaji_2009: What version of kubuntu are you using, what version do you wish to use? To update it, you'd more than likely have to update all of KDE (though not the whole system)09:25
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dmbkiwidwidmann: I don't think kaffeine is part of official kde, so updating kde will be pointless.09:26
sivaji_2009i got 0.8 now i m downloading 0.8 i hope it will support mpeg4 , avi , wmv09:27
sivaji_2009i got 0.7 now i m downloading 0.8 i hope it will support mpeg4 , avi , wmv09:27
dwidmanndmbkiwi: well, what I meant more or less is that to update it, you'll probably end up updating all of kde in the process (or you might as well)09:27
andreaswsivaji_2009: we already told you that you don't have to update kaffeine09:28
andreaswsivaji_2009: just download the codecs09:28
andreaswsivaji_2009: and you can play everything09:28
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RealisticDragonanyone fancy a game of scorched3d? (tis in the repos) :)09:28
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sivaji_2009what is codecs09:28
andreaswfor mpeg4 libxine-extracodecs09:29
andreaswyou can install it with apt-get09:29
andreaswthen google for a w32codec package download and install it09:29
sivaji_2009wait i will try and come09:29
dwidmanncodecs is what you need to play video/audio files, things are compressed(encoded), and you need codecs(decoders) to play back the files09:29
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sivaji_2009what is mean by "port"09:43
dwidmannsivaji_2009: there are multiple meanings09:43
just-this-timesivaji_2009:  what is your mother tongue pal /09:44
sivaji_2009tell me any one09:44
dwidmannone meaning of port is to make an application run on another operating system ("porting software"), another common computing meaning has something to do with networking/security stuff09:44
just-this-timeirc port is 666709:44
sivaji_2009" sivaji_2009:  what is your mother tongue pal /" i cannt get u09:45
RealisticDragona port is generally a "gateway"09:45
RealisticDragonhence, a port in terms of networking - one specific point of entry09:45
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RealisticDragonor in software - to transfer software (by "porting") to another environment09:45
sivaji_2009i think port means a id09:46
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sivaji_2009tell me about mother board what does it does09:46
RealisticDragonit holds the lowest layer of your computer, and all the interfaces by which the higher level bits talk09:47
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just-this-timeOMG09:47
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dwidmannjust-this-time: huh?09:48
sivaji_2009say clearly i am beginner i hope u get understand my level09:48
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stdinwhat is your native language sivaji_2009 ?09:49
sivaji_2009marathi09:49
dwidmannthe motherboard is the place where _everything_ gets plugged in :)09:49
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sivaji_2009tell me what appens when computer is switched on (i can realise only fan sound )09:51
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dwidmanndevices get powered on, ROM code is executed and devices are checked for integrity, then it transfers control to the boot loader, more or less (probably a bit of both)09:53
sivaji_2009no one is willing to share u r knowledge with me09:54
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Admiral_Chicagosivaji_2009: motherboard basically transferes information between devices (processor, HDD, Cd rom drive, memory etc)09:55
Admiral_Chicagoat least that's how the magic school bus described it to me09:55
stdinmagic school bus socks :P09:55
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stdins/socks/rocks/09:55
stdintyping not easy when drinking09:56
sivaji_2009what "stdin" represent09:56
dwidmannstandard input - generally the keyboard09:56
stdinstdin = standard input09:56
sivaji_2009i think u like C program09:57
robtpcan anyone tell me how to get right clicking working on kde, xmodmap isnt09:57
sivaji_2009i am just now learning c program09:57
dmbkiwiis sivaji_2009 a bot?09:57
Admiral_Chicagodmbkiwi: no09:57
stdinI'm only just starting to learn C, but I knew what stdin was before09:58
sivaji_2009bot means o know only boat09:58
dmbkiwiAdmiral_Chicago: are you sure?09:58
sivaji_2009ok tell me what compiler u r using for c program09:58
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just-this-timesivaji_2009: does not know good english09:58
Admiral_Chicagoyea, the only bots in here are Ubugtu and ubuntulog and ubotu09:59
sivaji_2009yes i not fit in english09:59
ubuntu_Hey09:59
sivaji_2009yes i am not fit in english09:59
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RealisticDragonwhat language do you speak siv?09:59
hepmewhen firefox crashes what log does it generate?10:00
hepmehow can i install flash9 plugin for firefox?10:00
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RealisticDragondont know hepme, you might get better information in #firefox10:00
sivaji_2009gcc is not intractive i cannot locate error eaily is there any better compiler10:00
dopewhat is daemon mode?10:00
rmarianskihepme: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html10:01
RealisticDragondaemon = run in background, like a sever10:01
RealisticDragonserver10:01
dopewell it's not workin :/10:01
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robtpcan anyone tell me how to get right click working on my macbook?10:02
dwidmannsivaji_2009: kdevelop is pretty versatile, I'm not sure if it has a C debugger or not though10:02
hepmei cant install flash9 plugin from adept? :(10:02
RealisticDragongdb is the gnu debugger :)10:02
RealisticDragonyou can hepme10:02
RealisticDragonbut you need to enable more repositories10:03
RealisticDragon!flash10:03
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:03
hepmei have multiverse and universe enabled in kubuntu 6.1010:03
dwidmannhepme: flash 9 is still beta in linux10:03
RealisticDragoni think it was in universe10:03
hepmebut i don tsee flash910:03
RealisticDragoni got flash 9 via the repos dwidmann :o10:03
RealisticDragonon 6.0610:03
RealisticDragonoh, maybe its in backports10:03
hepmemust be10:03
dwidmannRealisticDragon: really? Are you sure?10:03
sivaji_2009what is kdevelop10:03
stdinhepme: the package is called flashplugin-nonfree10:03
RealisticDragonyes10:03
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hepmestdin i see that package but it says version 710:04
RealisticDragoni only have official repos (inc backports turned on) and i didnt install it10:04
RealisticDragonyet i have flash 9 :)10:04
RealisticDragonid give backports a try then, its in sources.lst just commented out10:04
stdinhepme: v9 is in backports repository10:04
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dwidmann!info kdevelop10:04
ubotukdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB10:04
hepmestdin will it work for firefox?10:04
dwidmann!kdevelop10:04
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stdinhepme: yeah, it's the same as the one in multiverse, except version 910:05
robtprightlick not work, you help me yes?10:05
dennis_hallo ?10:05
stdinhello dennis_  :)10:05
dennis_hello, do you speak german ?10:06
stdinthis is the english channel10:06
stdin!de10:06
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:06
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dennis_!de10:07
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:07
hepmehow come when i enable repositories in adept and click 'apply' i still dont see the new changes/packages? i even restarted adept10:07
robtpthis is the english channel, does anyone know a bit abt my macbook not working? :)10:07
dennis_#ubuntu-de10:07
robtphepme: did you apt-get update10:07
dennis_how can i start the german panel ?10:07
hepmeno, i didnt think i had to10:07
hepmeit needs a 'reload' button like synaptic10:07
robtphepme: to see new packages/upgrades youd need to10:07
robtp"fetch updates"10:08
stdinhepme: it's the 1st button on the top left iirc10:08
sivaji_2009tell me some repositories10:08
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hepmeah fetch updates works10:08
robtpsee now what you have10:09
stdin!reop | sivaji_200910:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about reop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:09
stdin!repo | sivaji_200910:09
ubotusivaji_2009: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:09
freeridehey, whats up10:10
stdinhelps if you spell it right10:10
dennis_thanx..10:10
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freerideanyone familiar with dapper's screensaver glitch?10:11
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BluesKajhowdy all10:13
sivaji_2009in windows a software can be updated that is a .exe file can replace old version with new one is it possible in kubuntu10:13
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BluesKajyup, you can upgrade or update in synaptic or adept10:14
sivaji_2009how to update in adept10:14
BluesKajas long as there is a new version available in the repository10:14
BluesKaj!adept10:15
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto10:15
BluesKaj!synaptic10:15
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto10:15
sivaji_2009in adept their is a button for updating but it ramain inactive always10:15
BluesKajuse the konsole type ; "sudo apt-get update" ..make sure that adept and synaptic are both closed10:16
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sivaji_2009sudo apt-get update10:17
sivaji_2009now i am downloading packages i will try and tell you10:18
BluesKajsivaji_2009, in the terminal or console10:18
sivaji_2009yes i know10:18
BluesKajok, good10:19
sivaji_2009i just pasted here for reference10:19
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BluesKajright, we don't know how noob ppl are so we assume they are very :)10:20
sivaji_2009"sudo apt-get update" am i suppose to be a root user10:21
BluesKajlike I was and still am in some areas10:21
BluesKajsudo gives you permission10:21
freerideanyone here wanna help me fix my screensaver?10:21
BluesKajyou have to give it your password10:22
BluesKajwhat's the prob , freeride?10:22
sivaji_2009ok10:22
freeridescreensaver is borked10:22
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freeridedoes not werk at all :-(10:22
freeridethey all work in test10:22
freerideso I've just been clicking test when I get up :-P10:22
freeridebut I'd like it to work10:23
freerideI read about a bug in dapper10:23
freeriderelated to the screensaver10:23
BluesKajhave you checked in sys/settings/desktop/ admin mode ?10:23
freeridenope, sure havent, whats that? hehe10:23
sivaji_200999% [6 Packages gzip 0] 10:23
sivaji_2009gzip: stdin: not in gzip format10:23
sivaji_2009Err http://lk.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/main Packages10:24
sivaji_2009  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)10:24
sivaji_2009Fetched 6B in 4s (1B/s)10:24
sivaji_2009Failed to fetch http://lk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)10:24
sivaji_2009Reading package lists... Done10:24
sivaji_2009E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.10:24
freerideI'm running dapper10:24
freeridethere is an admin mode button for display10:24
freeridebut not desktop10:24
freerideif thats what you mean10:24
BluesKajyup10:25
freerideI upgraded to edgy but it wouldnt start x after I installed all the packages because of a video conflict10:25
freerideso I just re-installed dapper10:25
sivaji_2009yup means10:25
BluesKajyes10:25
stdinsivaji_2009: yup means yes10:25
freerideso anyways, I've been reading the known issues10:25
freerideand there is a scrensaver bug in dapper10:25
rmarianskifreeride: did you use the update-manager to install edgy? I just upgraded to edgy from dapper and it's working fine10:26
sivaji_2009can u see the error report10:26
freeridebut I need someone who understands this a little bit more than I do10:26
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freeridecorymon77 helped me install edguy by changing my sources list and doing a sudo apt-get10:26
freeridewe spent most of last night doing that10:26
freeridebut it wouldnt start x so I just re-installed dapper10:27
rmarianskifreeride: i've read in a few places and on the forums that using apt-get is less reliable than going through the update-manager10:27
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rmarianskifreeride: you may want to try again using the update-manager10:27
freeridewhen you say update manager, do you mean adept?10:27
stdinsivaji_2009: try changing "http://lk.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports main" to "http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports main"10:27
rmarianskifreeride: no .. there's an actual tool to upgrade called upgrade-manager10:27
stdinsivaji_2009: in /etc/apt/sources.list10:27
BluesKajfreeride, "sudo-dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg"10:28
rmarianskifreeride: err sorry ... update-manager10:28
freeridethis is more than I want to tackle right now guys, I'd like to just get my screensaver working in dapper10:28
rmarianskifreeride: the reconfigure might work also ... see this post: http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2006/10/aptget_distupgrade_broken_goin.html10:29
BluesKajmost of us are using edgy ...my experience in dapper is kinda limited , altho it's pretty straightforward with the scrnsver, if i remember correctly10:29
BluesKaj!pastebin10:30
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:30
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redcliffehi all - i'm having some difficulties installing kubuntu 6.10 amd6410:33
BluesKajrmarianski, the "reconfigure" worked for me yesterday10:34
redcliffea lot of the time the installer freezes, and when i finally did get it to install in text mode it freezes about 10 seconds after getting to the kdm login prompt10:34
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redcliffeyet debian on same machine is still running fine10:34
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freerideif I set the screen saver priority to high and then apply it and then go back and check, it's back to low, it doesnt stay, what am I doing wrong?10:34
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redcliffeany ideas what could be going wrong?10:35
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sts9I tried installing kde4 and my copy did not some with "/usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop" as the directions state.  the only kde.desktop file that came with kde4 is "/usr/lib/kde4/share/services/searchproviders/kde.desktop" and that one says is named KDE API Documentation10:46
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sts9anyone else try kde4 in full session?10:47
ArrAKeeNhi10:47
sts9hmm kde4libs did not install with kde4base-dev package10:48
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braddorois it possible to reinstall kubuntu and not       blow away   your home                                        directories?10:59
braddorotheya re ont heir own drive11:00
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braddorosorry for all of the extra spaces11:01
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stdinbraddoro: you could try to do a normal install and just don't format (you may need the alternate CD)11:07
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braddorostdin: thank you11:07
stdinnp11:07
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mxwlpxwlhello....i am having trouble running applications from the command line. i receive the error Gtk *** cannot connect to display. I've tried xhost + and exporting the display, but nothing is working11:09
hepmehow can i open a .iso file without burning it to cd? (like using daemon tools in windows)11:09
stdinmxwlpxwl: run them as a normal user (not root)11:10
stdinhepme: sudo mount -t iso9660 /path/to/image.iso /path/to/mount -o loop11:10
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mxwlpxwlyes, that will work, but i want to be able to run them as root also11:11
Pirate-kinganybody try the fiesty fawn distro of kubuntu?11:11
stdinmxwlpxwl: then use 'sudo command'11:11
stdinPirate-king: yeah, i'm running it now11:12
Pirate-kingit runnis on my laptop as a live cd11:12
Pirate-kingbut11:12
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Pirate-kingwhen I go to install it craps out at the keyboard11:12
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Pirate-kingthe screen11:12
mxwlpxwlstdin: yes, i know i can execute commands as root in that manner, but i would like to execute commands from a root login shell11:13
Pirate-kinggoes all blue11:13
stdinPirate-king: I used the alternate CD, only problem is hda is called sda with the 2.6.19 kernel11:13
rmarianskimxwlpxwl: try something called "sux" apt-get install sux; sudo sux; xeyes11:13
Pirate-kingyeah I tried that one11:14
mxwlpxwlrmarinanski: thnx11:14
stdinmxwlpxwl: all I need to do, to do that is 'xhost +LOCAL:' (as the normal user), then 'DISPLAY=:0 command' (as root)11:14
Pirate-kingtring to install with an xp partion11:14
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rmarianskistdin: i tried that and it works great, thx11:16
stdinyou're welcome :D11:16
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geniiHappy New Years to some already :) Not here tho for about 6 3/4 hrs11:16
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geniistdin How'd the herd1 update go?11:17
mxwlpxwlstdin: thanx. that seemed to work11:17
stdinhey, genii11:17
stdinthe upgrade went ok actually :P11:17
geniistdin Hi :) Good to know11:17
stdinopenoffice still isn't upgradable yet, but you can work around it11:19
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geniianyone get Conexant HSF/HCF modem drivers compiled under Edgy or Feisty yet?11:19
geniistdin Standard dist is what, 2.02?11:19
genii(OOo)11:20
stdin2.1-1 is the upgrade candidate11:20
geniiAh OK11:21
stdin2.0.4 is the dist default11:21
stdin(just had to check :P )11:21
genii:)11:21
stdingotta get another drink, brb :P11:22
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geniidamn, new years eve and I'm feeling antisocial re: going out someplace etc11:22
BluesKaj<---staying home tonite, genii...freezing rain here11:23
BluesKajsmall town ...few cabs and the driver are prolly out of it anyway11:24
dwidmannfreezing rain, the best kind :)11:24
hattawe just got hit with 6 in of snow11:24
BluesKajhatta, where ?11:25
hattaomaha11:25
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braddoroi am trying to install kubuntu over and older installation, but I don't know which option to choose in order to preserve my home dirs11:25
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braddororesize IDE1 partition 6 and use freed space, erase hard disk (not this one) or manually edit partition table11:26
BluesKajNorthern Ontario....very little snow ...been raining for a month11:26
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braddoronone of them sound good11:26
geniiDrizzling a bit in Toronto11:27
dwidmannbraddoro: if you had been wanting to keep your home directory, you should have put the home directory on a seperate partition to begin with ...11:27
redcliffehi all - got problems with the 6.10 dvd for amd64, when it tries to switch to a higher graphic mode on install it freezes and the screens go blank11:27
braddorodrizzling rain in CHarlotte NC11:27
BluesKajsave them to a dvd/cd if possible and copy after re installing11:27
braddorodwidmann: it is on a seperate partition11:27
redcliffewhen i finally got it installed in text mode it freezes when i finally reach kdm11:28
hattaI thought I might go across town for a show tonight, but now I'll just stay at home and play with music software11:28
braddoroand I can't get the OS to boot in order to save them11:28
redcliffethe kdm login prompt comes up but freezes11:28
just-this-timepls help with this. komba2 ->mount all gives error smbmnt must be installed suid root11:28
stdinbraddoro: manually edit the partition table, set it up as it was before, but make sure to choose not to format (or uncheck format)11:28
geniiIf you know which partition it uses manually edit option. Make /home the same again and tell it not to format that one11:28
geniistdin LOL11:29
BluesKajredcliffe, have you tried configuring the graphics drivers in sys/settings11:29
stdingenii: his /home is on the same partition as  /11:29
redcliffeBluesKaj: where do i do that?11:29
braddorostdin: thanks11:29
hattaanyone know some good tablature software?11:29
redcliffeBluesKaj: from the initial boot cd menu?11:29
geniiI thought he just said /home was already on a separate partition....11:29
hattadifficulty: I'm playing the mandolin11:29
BluesKajredcliffe, no it won't "take" there , do it after you install the OS11:30
redcliffeBluesKaj: well i can't get logged in to do that11:30
stdingenii: it may be, i'm in an easily confused state11:31
redcliffei manually changed the settings in recovery mode in xorg.conf to use the nv driver, that got me to kdm, but no further as it locks up11:31
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BluesKajredcliffe, live cd?11:32
geniivesa driver *should* work in some safe setting to get kdm /X operational usually11:33
redcliffeBluesKaj: yep the kubuntu 6.10 amd64 live cd/install11:33
redcliffeburnt from the iso11:33
BluesKajeeeww , the amd64 is buggy redcliffe , i dropped it due to allit's probs with hardware recognition and conf .... switched to x8611:34
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dwidmannamd64 is only buggy on buggy hardware :P11:34
redcliffeah ok, pity, wanted to get up on a 64 bit system11:35
stdinheh, that's true11:35
BluesKaj<--- amd64 cpu but running 32bit x86 edgy11:35
geniihatta Something called Lilypond looks interesting but I have not used it11:35
redcliffedwidmann: yeah i've an albatron motherboard that's given me nothing but trouble, so figured it may be the problem11:35
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BluesKajthere is no advantage to 6411:35
dwidmannthere can be plenty of advantage to 64-bit, depending on what you do11:36
BluesKajmore trouble than it's worth11:36
stdinmy BIOS is buggy, but that's what I expect from HP11:36
redcliffedepends what you're doing11:36
hattagenii, I'll check it out11:36
BluesKajyeajh dwidmann, like ?11:36
BluesKajdwidmann, try to convince me :)11:37
genii.11:37
dwidmannone sec, I had a goody laying around here somewhere11:37
geniisorry, keyboard burp11:37
redcliffeBluesKaj: 64 bit math for scientific simulations11:37
stdin64bit is good if you have 4GB+ RAM and/or need very presice math11:37
Sanne_genii: you made your point (lol)11:38
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redcliffei use libgmp a lot, and 64 bit is useful for that11:38
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dwidmannI hear rendering and encoding can be made quite a bit faster by using a 64-bit os.11:38
redcliffebut a working system is more important atm lol11:38
geniiSanne_ heh11:38
redcliffealright thanks BluesKaj all, i'll try the x86 version11:39
braddorowell I either did it right, or I just blew away my home dirs11:39
geniihatta Apparently there is also an openoffice plugin for Lilypond also11:40
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geniibraddoro As long as you selected not to format /home you should be OK :) Just make sure ou have the same username as before afterwards11:41
braddorowill it overwrite it if I have the same username? when it creates my home dir11:41
braddoroI was wondering about that11:41
braddoroi was thinking I would use a differenet username and copy everything11:42
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geniibraddoror If you're unsure of using adduser etc   you could manually insert the name with vipw if you know how to use that11:42
braddoroi know how to add a user11:43
braddoroi just didn't know if I should do it durning the install11:43
braddoroi don't know if it will reinitialize my home dir if it already exists11:43
geniibraddoro If you "man adduser" you can see the switch for not creating home dir etc11:44
dwidmannaha, I found what I was looking for11:45
dwidmannhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31874311:45
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ethos_Anyone here ever used Iodine (IP-over-DNS)?11:47
genii80 over 53?11:48
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ethos_IP tunneling through DNS server11:48
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geniiHmm no, sorry. Sounds intriguing however11:49
stdinwhat would you use it for?11:50
geniiHave you looked at gre?11:50
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ethos_It really is.  Supposed to be able to tunnel IP traffic from home through DNS server to the airport or wherever you have to pay for access but still can reach DNS.11:50
stdinooh, that dose sound nice11:50
ethos_I finally got it to run, but it says "retrying..." 5 times and stops.  I think my home computer might have gone into standby or something.11:51
ethos_Should be usefull for me since I work at the airport.11:51
geniiSo just piggypack tcp 80 stuff over some airport wireless provider like Wayport's DNS?11:51
ethos_That's the idea, I think.  I'm still learning.11:52
ethos_I setup a DNS server to route to my home IP and run iodine at home.  Then I run iodine on my laptop, supposed to make a tunnel through the DNS server.11:53
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geniiInteresting. I think this may only work if no port masquerading is involved11:53
ethos_I'm so close I can taste it.11:53
BluesKajdwidmann, nowhere does it mention the lack of hardware recognition with edgy 64 ...that's my complaint .. I had numerous probs with sound and video and software for vudeo codec conversions etc11:53
genii6.10 generally is having some iisues ith wireless and video for some reasons11:54
ethos_I can ping the local wayport DNS, I can ping my DNS to my home IP too.  Should be working.11:54
dwidmannBluesKaj: No problems with my hardware ;) I built this system with 64-bit Linux in mind of course. As for other things, most are generally pretty easy to work around.11:54
ethos_Maybe I don't understand masquerading or, more simply, my home computer is stalled.11:54
lovlossHow do you browse the gui as root in kde? im used to gksudo nautilus.11:55
dwidmannlovloss: kdesu konqueror11:55
lovlossaha11:56
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BluesKajwell, i've got this x86 version almost totally working to my liking ...not gonna switch now :)11:56
lovlossthis kde is different than gnome alright11:56
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stdinyes, kde is better :P11:57
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geniiethos_ Likely your home setup needs to be that port 53 has to pass straight through to the machine which is doing DNSbehind it11:57
lovlossIt seems to be more capable with applications than gnome.11:57
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hepmehow do you get to the desktop in kde from the mouse? so i dont have to do ctrl+alt+d, in gnome there's an icon you can click like in windows11:58
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geniieg: forwarded straight thru, not masqueraded11:58
lovlossthough im a bit mad that the add/remove manager crashes if i select "all suites" with "unsupported"11:58
BluesKajhepme, startkde in the console11:59
braddoroYAY - all of my hone dirs are still there, thanks for the help folks11:59
ethos_I need to study iptables.  It's getting complicated.  :)11:59
hepmeBluesKaj: huh11:59
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stdinhepme: there is a "Show Desktop" applet12:00
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hepmewhere12:00
geniiethos_ If you have a hardware router you don't need iptables etc much, can all be done in the router12:00
dwidmannhepme: right click the panel -> add applet to panel12:00
stdinthere ^^^12:01
geniiOnly if that machine is in DMZ etc you should have filtering on the box directly12:01
BluesKajhepme , do you know what the console is ?12:01
ethos_I'm directly connected.  I wonder if wayport uses routing.12:01
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=== Linux_Galore o O ( or you can install kompose )
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geniiethos_ I probed their networks a couple years ack and I can tell you they have a very secure setup on Debian12:02
hepmeBlueskaj yes but you misunderstood my question :p12:02
T3hWiz0rdLinux_Galore: i'm gonna h4x0r j00 buahahhaa12:02
hepmethanks dwidmann that worked12:02
T3hWiz0rdLinux_Galore: 0.o... lol12:02
stdinhepme: it bay be in the kdeaddons package, (which I recommend you install anyway because it has some cool applets in it) :P12:02
lovlosswhats the kde equivalent of gedit?12:02
geniiKate12:02
T3hWiz0rdlovloss: vim ftw!12:02
geniior Kwrite12:02
stdinor kedit :P12:02
dwidmannkate, kedit, and kwrite are the editors that seem to float around ....12:03
ethos_Debian?  Wow.  That's interesting and depressing at the same time.  Meaning I may not be able to tunnel.12:03
geniistdin :)12:03
lovlosskdesu kate .... ?12:03
stdinlovloss: yeah, that'll work12:03
geniilovloss Yes, or any of the others mentioned12:03
T3hWiz0rdlovloss: you do know that (to my knowledge) kdesu shows your password as plain text.12:03
hepmewhich package is gvim?12:03
ethos_At least I can still ues my cell as a modem.12:03
stdinlovloss: tho I prefire 'sudo nano ...' :)12:04
lovlossohhh ok12:04
lovlossill sudo :312:04
BluesKajcan someone answer hepme ... we're not communicating very well12:04
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T3hWiz0rdstdin: if vim heard you use nano it would eat your spleen for dessert.12:04
hepmeBlueskaj they answered my show-desktop question12:04
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=== stdin is scared of vim :P
geniiethos_ Their setup has holes. as user "nobody" I was able to print off on their network printers that they bettter fix some user priveledges12:05
hepmewaiting for my gvim question though :) i think it's vim-gtk?12:05
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T3hWiz0rdstdin: don't be afraid of vim, embrace it12:05
dwidmannhepme: it's the vim-gtk package12:05
hepmevim isn't hard, you only have to learn a handful of commands to do most things, plus if you get gvim it has menus12:05
stdincan't, I'm vim-o-phobic12:05
Rob-Westy can i access my PC from windows12:05
domvim-full has it too iirc12:05
hepmeit just has a TON of features you can use optionally if you ever want to,12:05
geniistdin I'm vim-o-phobic also LOL12:06
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hepmeif you can use man pages you can use vim12:06
genii<-- nano, pico   etc12:06
hepmethink of it like a pager program where you can type commands without having to press the ctrl key first, and whenever you want to edit you just hit 'i' to go into 'insert text mode' and when you want to go back to command mode you just hit escape. thats IT12:07
hepmesimple12:07
dwidmannvim-tiny is the scourge of the the universe :\12:07
geniidwidmann I must agree12:07
Rob-West!help12:07
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:07
stdinread a howto when I 1st started to use linux, and it said "type 'vim /bah/blah', and I couldn't figure out how to exit it, so I had to restart by pressing the power button :P12:07
Rob-Westsamba is being gay12:08
T3hWiz0rdRob-West: how do you know its being "Gay"12:08
T3hWiz0rdfor all you know it could be acting perfectly hetrosexual, and it is YOU who is gay, and therefore, unfamiliar with it.12:08
hepmeit must be samba dancing12:08
geniiRob-West It wants "MSHOME" as default workgroup?12:08
stdinit's having sex with same sex apps ?12:08
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dwidmannstdin: <ESC>, followed by :help, is your friend.12:08
Rob-Westthats not my default though12:09
stdindwidmann: nano is my best friend for quick editing tho12:09
hepmei dont think people realize that calling things 'gay' when they dont like something about it comes across as homophobic12:09
geniiIn vi/vim when in doubt hit <esc> several times:) Also :q! is your friend12:09
stdinRob-West: the reason is that windows default is MSHOME (from XP anyway)12:09
BluesKajyup12:10
hepmegay people rule. gay girls are hot and gay guys leave me more women for us. win/win12:10
stdinhepme: that's right, you tell them12:10
Rob-Westits just called workgroup12:10
geniiRob-West Change it in smb.conf12:10
T3hWiz0rdhepme: lol12:10
Rob-WestWindows Network12:10
dwidmannIt's a quick change in kcmsambaconf or smb.conf to change the workgroup :)12:10
Rob-Westwell thats what its called12:10
T3hWiz0rdRob-West: in smb.config write line "work group = workgroupnameherestopcallingsambagay"12:11
VincentMXH4PPY N3WY34R!!12:11
BluesKajtrouble is women like gay guys ...less threatening than us straights12:11
hepmeyeah, tom cruise gets all the chicks12:11
hattanobodys threatend by linux nerds12:11
stdinVincentMX: I'll say it back in 59 mins12:11
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geniiwhen samba starts behaving in a metrosexual manner I'll be troubled....12:12
dwidmannHah!12:12
hepmexml config?12:12

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