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TheMusoc12:49
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bddebianheh01:02
_ionI've actually written a Visual Basic program in my life: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-867046351147882724601:04
_ionThe blood doesn't wash away. :-(01:04
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jdubdoes the new initramfs-tools fix 2.6.20 booting?01:15
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StonekeeperHi. I have an idea for supporting non-supported drivers in Ubuntu. Is this the place for the suggestion?12:42
FujitsuStonekeeper, probably not on New Year's Day (or close to).12:43
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kentStonekeeper: i think the correct way is to enter a bugreport/featuere-request on launchpad.12:44
Treenakskent: or even a spec12:44
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Stonekeeperok thanks. Do you mind if i run the idea past you for some ideas/feedback?01:01
tsmithei don't01:02
Stonekeeperok, my idea is pretty simple. The problem is hunting around for drivers on non-supported h/w. This is akin to hunting around for software on windows. Apt does a great job of fixing this. So I had the idea of having a central DB that OS driver maintainers could register with. Desktop users have a simple front-end that scans the DB for a driver and does a download/untar/configure;make;make install. It would be totally unsuported and community driven. I01:05
Stonekeeperperhaps it's unworkable - i don't know.01:05
Stonekeeperanyway, I'll leave you with that little thought. Happy new year to you all :)01:10
ChipzzI am not a developer, but I can see a whole lot of things wrong with this01:10
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Chipzzheh01:10
Chipzzgreat :P01:11
robI remember seeing a project that was attempting something pretty similar to that actually01:19
robminus the installation bit01:19
ChipzzI think one of the biggest problems would be even though it would be unsupported, people would still demand support for kernels with additional modules compiled this way01:21
Chipzzor even be able to easily identify such modifications01:21
tsmitheyes01:22
Chipzzcfr the big easyubuntu/automatix/etc debacle01:22
tsmitheurgh01:22
robyeah, the project I'm thinking of was more a general information application that you could use to scan your hardware and provide information on drives and things which it then kept in a central database which others could then query via the application on their computer01:22
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neuralisrob: a h/w database web app is one of the feisty specs, iirc01:55
robnice, but is the "app" website based or a traditional on each pc based?01:56
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neuralisrob: "web app"01:58
roblike, ajax?01:59
neuralisno. last i heard at uds-mtv, the discussion was about a prettified, html-based, database-driven interface to the existing hwdb submissions.02:01
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Anarchyaight I tried in main channel but wtf is with a patch like this http://rafb.net/p/NoWt3d86.nln.html why not put out something more unified so other distros can use the same patch04:16
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zorglu_hehe anarchy was the old nick of alan cox04:21
zorglu_i had to check :)04:21
Anarchywell nvm I have what I need already 04:21
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Solarionello08:23
Solarionanyone seen http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=3663508:24
Solarion"So, unable to transfer the install easily, unable to legally use a different CD of Windows with my legally purchased key, and unable to install the drivers with the one I had, I was left with only one option. The machine was put in place Saturday running Ubuntu."08:24
Solarionhappy new year!08:24
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alecjwhi. i have a feature request, which i don't want to file a specification or whatever on yet, i want to see what people think first.11:19
alecjwis this the right place?11:19
alecjwor should that go in #ubuntu+111:19
Toadstooldepending on the amount of work (ie. if it involves modifying several packages or just one), I'd say either a wishlist bug or a spec and before submitting it you can send a mail to ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com11:22
alecjwToadstool: ok then. it's a suggestion for the ubuntu-desktop metapackage. i think i'll email the list. do i need to sign up or anything or do i just send the mail?11:24
Toadstoolalecjw: you can send an email and explicitly ask for being CC'ed but I'd advise to subscribe11:26
alecjwToadstool: how do i subscribe then?11:26
alecjwjust send a blank email to the list?11:27
Toadstoolhttp://lists.ubuntu.com/11:27
Toadstoolnope11:27
alecjwthanks11:27
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wasabi_This may seem radical, but why doesn't apache use shared-mime-info?11:46
_ionThat would be nice.11:48
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