| bddebian | crimsun: Do you happen to know/comprehend the sort order of packages on REVU? | 12:13 |
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| crimsun | sorry, I'm using a new irc client (konversation), and I'm not used to its lack of displaying notifications | 12:15 |
| crimsun | bddebian: no idea | 12:16 |
| crimsun | rexbron: about? | 12:16 |
| rexbron | crimsun: the murrine package | 12:16 |
| tsmithe | bddebian, it's by needs_work | 12:19 |
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| tsmithe | :P | 12:19 |
| tsmithe | i think it should be by date | 12:19 |
| tsmithe | but apparently needs_work is better | 12:19 |
| crimsun | no, needs_work is better | 12:20 |
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| bddebian | By "needs work" what? | 12:20 |
| tsmithe | it's a field in the table | 12:20 |
| crimsun | by date would pull all the oldest/newest to the top | 12:20 |
| crimsun | that would -suck- in terms of drive-by revuing | 12:20 |
| tsmithe | really? | 12:20 |
| tsmithe | ok | 12:21 |
| bddebian | Well at least displaying a year would be nice ;-) | 12:21 |
| tsmithe | yeah | 12:21 |
| crimsun | rexbron: did you upload a new one that you've test-built, installed, and used? | 12:21 |
| crimsun | sorry, I'm tackling a grave bug in mutagen atm | 12:21 |
| rexbron | the upload failed and not ftp complains that the .dsc exists | 12:22 |
| rexbron | crimsun: is still there with -f | 12:22 |
| crimsun | rexbron: ah, you'll need an admin to remove it (I'm not an admin) | 12:22 |
| rexbron | any admins for revu here? | 12:23 |
| rexbron | crimsun: could you ping an admin for revu? | 12:26 |
| crimsun | I'll have no better luck than what you just did | 12:29 |
| crimsun | they're either asleep or heading that way | 12:29 |
| crimsun | (most are in EU or NZ) | 12:29 |
| rexbron | ugg | 12:30 |
| tsmithe | yay! eu! | 12:31 |
| rexbron | ok, I will periocally ask for an admin | 12:33 |
| rexbron | siretart: ping | 12:36 |
| siretart | rexbron: You sent me a contentless ping. This is a contentless pong. Please provide a bit of information about what you want and I'll respond when I am around. | 12:36 |
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| rexbron | siretart: could you please remove the paritial upload of murrine_0.31-0ubuntu3 | 12:37 |
| rexbron | ajmitch: could you please remove the paritial upload of murrine_0.31-0ubuntu3 | 12:38 |
| rexbron | raphink: could you please remove the paritial upload of murrine_0.31-0ubuntu3 | 12:44 |
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| crimsun | argh, bitten by g-v-m's noexec mount flag for external usb drives | 12:50 |
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| Winter-1 | hello | 05:42 |
| === Hobbsee waves | ||
| Winter-1 | can someone tell me how i can go about compiling source to a deb | 05:42 |
| Hobbsee | as in, for your own system? | 05:44 |
| Hobbsee | !compile | 05:44 |
| ubotu | Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!) | 05:44 |
| Winter-1 | for the community | 05:44 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 05:44 |
| Hobbsee | !packagingguide | 05:44 |
| ubotu | The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources | 05:44 |
| Hobbsee | check otu ^ | 05:44 |
| Winter-1 | what ive noticed is that there seems to lack some debs for 64-bit machines so i decided i wanna step it up and help out | 05:45 |
| Hobbsee | the problem with that is that some programs dont actually build and work on 64bit machines, hence the lack of debs... | 05:46 |
| imbrandon | well it depends on the app, all programs that are for i386 should have source for x86_64 too in the repos, its just a matter if it compiled or not | 05:46 |
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| joejaxx | ld: cannot find -lcl | 06:17 |
| joejaxx | anyone ever come across that before? | 06:17 |
| joejaxx | it is probably something silly | 06:18 |
| joejaxx | one of the libs are missing | 06:18 |
| joejaxx | bddebian: ever come across this before? | 06:20 |
| bddebian | Never heard of libcl no :-( | 06:21 |
| joejaxx | me either | 06:21 |
| joejaxx | has anyone else heard of it? | 06:34 |
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| rexbron | ajmitch: are you there? | 07:39 |
| crimsun | rexbron: I'd try again in the new year :) | 07:43 |
| joejaxx | crimsun: ! maybe you know lol | 07:43 |
| joejaxx | hello rexbron | 07:43 |
| joejaxx | crimsun: ever heard of -lcl (libcl)? | 07:44 |
| joejaxx | ie ld not finding it | 07:44 |
| crimsun | it looks like something pascal-related | 07:45 |
| crimsun | ...and something hp-ux-specific at that | 07:46 |
| rexbron | crimsun: I guess, man I want this uploaded | 07:47 |
| crimsun | rexbron: relax, there won't be any serious archive processing until the second week of Jan '07 anyhow | 07:47 |
| rexbron | crimsun: Did you solve the problem you were facing? | 07:47 |
| crimsun | joejaxx: is it related to a crypto lib? | 07:48 |
| crimsun | rexbron: oh yeah, the fixed binary has been available in feisty for several hours | 07:48 |
| rexbron | crimsun: thats good | 07:48 |
| joejaxx | crimsun: it might be i have never ran across a -lcl | 07:48 |
| crimsun | woops, need to update sbuild | 07:49 |
| rexbron | crimsun: Maybe you can help. I am trying to install pyperl but it complains that it can not find -lperl | 07:49 |
| rexbron | also, is it possible to package python modules? | 07:50 |
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| crimsun | rexbron: libperl-dev | 07:50 |
| rexbron | ok | 07:50 |
| crimsun | and yes | 07:50 |
| rexbron | thought I had that | 07:50 |
| rexbron | but will check | 07:50 |
| crimsun | see the Debian wiki for Python | 07:50 |
| rexbron | ok | 07:50 |
| rexbron | wow... | 07:53 |
| rexbron | thanks crimsun | 07:53 |
| rexbron | I should have thought of that | 07:53 |
| joejaxx | crimsun: i do not know if it is a crypt lib or not | 07:54 |
| crimsun | joejaxx: what can you deduce from the context? | 07:54 |
| joejaxx | crimsun: it compiles fine on ubuntu and not gentoo | 07:54 |
| joejaxx | and i do not have any crypt lib packages installed | 07:55 |
| joejaxx | crimsun: well this is a bbs | 07:55 |
| crimsun | hmm, perhaps some use flag(s)? | 07:55 |
| crimsun | I'm not familiar w/ Gentoo | 07:55 |
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| joejaxx | crimsun: yeah that might be it i will see | 07:58 |
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| neutrinomass | any idea why 'rootstrap' has been removed? pbuilder-uml depends on it | 10:10 |
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| crimsun | neutrinomass, it was removed from hoary and never readded | 10:20 |
| neutrinomass | crimsun: which I assume was done on purpose ? should I then request a removal of pbuilder-uml as well ? | 10:22 |
| crimsun | neutrinomass, note that it was also removed from testing earlier this year because of a grave bug due to the u-m-l package at that time not providing devfs, which broke /dev/ubd/1 | 10:23 |
| crimsun | (bug #342694) | 10:24 |
| crimsun | all that needs to be done is have unstable's rootstrap source package resynced (and unblacklisted if necessary) | 10:25 |
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| crimsun | that probably can be addressed after the new year (circa second week in Jan '07) | 10:26 |
| neutrinomass | ok then :) thanks ! | 10:27 |
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| neutrinomass | how can a package build-depend on itself :-/ ? | 11:37 |
| tsmithe | in silliness | 11:37 |
| tsmithe | or a drunken fit of packaging | 11:37 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 11:38 |
| neutrinomass | this hasn't built since 2004 | 11:38 |
| tsmithe | drunken i tell you | 11:38 |
| tsmithe | now it's just lying in the gutter | 11:38 |
| tsmithe | begging | 11:38 |
| neutrinomass | heh, it doesn't build if it doesn't build-depend on itself ! | 11:42 |
| Hobbsee | neutrinomass: tell the maintainer to put *down* the crack pipe | 11:43 |
| Amaranth | lmao | 11:44 |
| Amaranth | Doesn't mono do some crazy stuff like that? | 11:44 |
| neutrinomass | Hobbsee: it's quite weird actually, it seems to be OK on debian (1 open bug report, 5 updates in 2006) | 11:45 |
| neutrinomass | (this is mit-scheme btw) | 11:45 |
| Amaranth | neutrinomass: it can build depend on itself after it's been bootstrapped | 11:45 |
| Amaranth | like glibc | 11:45 |
| Amaranth | you have to do special things to get it to build the first time though :) | 11:46 |
| neutrinomass | yeah, I suppose so - I'll leave it to somebody else though, it's quite beyond me | 11:47 |
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| tsmithe | do library packages have to be in the form lib<name><version> ? | 12:54 |
| tsmithe | or can i leave <version> out? | 12:54 |
| tsmithe | surely apt deals with versions | 12:55 |
| tsmithe | or is it to keep old binary compatibility? | 12:55 |
| tsmithe | and thus the old, differently named package | 12:55 |
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| azeem | tsmithe: <version> is the library major version (aka soname), not the package version | 01:04 |
| tsmithe | yes | 01:04 |
| tsmithe | ok | 01:05 |
| tsmithe | so it's still necessary | 01:05 |
| tsmithe | like i thought... | 01:05 |
| azeem | it's necessary so that people can install different libraries versions in parallel | 01:05 |
| tsmithe | yes | 01:05 |
| tsmithe | also like i thought... | 01:05 |
| tsmithe | what if it's zero? | 01:05 |
| tsmithe | do i just do libfoo0? | 01:05 |
| azeem | yes | 01:05 |
| tsmithe | okey | 01:06 |
| tsmithe | thanks | 01:06 |
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| tsmithe | and is the -dev version libfoo0-dev? | 01:09 |
| geser | usually it is only libfoo-dev | 01:09 |
| geser | in most cases you want to link against the latest version of libfoo | 01:10 |
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| tsmithe | geser, okey | 01:15 |
| tsmithe | thanks | 01:15 |
| Jozo- | tsmithe: http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html | 01:19 |
| tsmithe | okeys | 01:19 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 08:05 |
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| ademan | with the phoenix repository builder? | 11:10 |
| ademan | oops | 11:10 |
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| pianoboy3333 | How do I apply a dsc and a .diff.gz to an .orig.tar.gz? | 12:04 |
| crimsun | dpkg-source -x foo.dsc | 12:04 |
| superm1 | dpkg-source -x | 12:04 |
| pianoboy3333 | thanks | 12:05 |
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| davromaniak | Happy New Year for Europe (except UK) !!!! | 12:07 |
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