[12:01] <jrib> arte_: glad it worked, don't ask me why :)
[12:01] <kitche> epitiphlitis: log in and then sudo apt-get install gdm there is a reinstall comand for apt-get also I just don't know it
[12:01] <cloom> hello, anyone uses XGL+Beryl?
[12:01] <arte_> coz u know much more than me :)
[12:01] <jrib> kitche: apt-get --reinstall install foo
[12:01] <siv0x> axisys: okay now i'm on gnome.. i click the little speaker icon at the top of my screen?
[12:02] <axisys>   siv0x yes.. double click
[12:02] <foobn> i have an existing ubuntu/swap partition that i want to overwrite with kubuntu. do i have to delete and recreate those partitions or can i get away with just formatting my existing ext3 partition and installing kubuntu on it?
[12:02] <siv0x> axisys: k done
[12:02] <johns^> foobn: yep
[12:02] <foobn> yep to what
[12:02] <axisys> siv0x: do u see a tab called switches?
[12:02] <johns^> you can overwrite it
[12:03] <johns^> or just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:03] <foobn> just format?
[12:03] <siv0x> axisys: yes
[12:03] <kitche> foobn: or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop then you will have kubuntu and ubuntu
[12:03] <johns^> foobn: during the install
[12:03] <foobn> i'm already in a kubuntu livecd
[12:03] <axisys> siv0x: go to that tab
[12:03] <tim__b> anyone into psybnc with oidentd support? got following problem: /etc/oidentd.conf is configured in the right way, so is psybnc, which writes the repley in ~user/.oidentd.conf. but oidentd replies the shell username instead of the ident set in psybnc. any suggestions?
[12:03] <siv0x> axisys: k
[12:03] <axisys> is the headphone sense checked?
[12:04] <johns^> foobn: I would just apt-get the kubuntu stuff ;) But during install you will have an option to format
[12:04] <foobn> i'd rather do a fresh install
[12:04] <foobn> my ubuntu/gnome was broken
[12:04] <johns^> foobn: come on, it isn't windows ;)
[12:04] <siv0x> axisys: do i check "Audigy analog/digital output jack" ?
[12:04] <mixandgo> hello everyone, something strange happens when I try to sync some files with Unison ! if the amount of data is high... the network breaks down, meaning no ping, nothing; even tho ifconfig show it's everything ok ! I need to disable and re-enable the network connection (eth0) for it to work again
[12:04] <superkirbyartist> !pcmcia
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <axisys> siv0x: play w/ those
[12:05] <lewwy> hi guys
[12:05] <axisys> siv0x: one of them will work.. u have diff drver i think
[12:05] <Theodor> If I moved my files from my Ubuntu DVD to an external HDD, will the apt-get command still works ?
[12:06] <bmhm> hi all
[12:06] <bmhm> how can i run eclipse on 6.10 amd64 ?
[12:06] <gili> i have a question about cd rippers?
[12:07] <gili> is sound juicer the most reliable,???
[12:07] <Theodor> If I moved my files from my Ubuntu DVD to an external HDD, will the apt-get command still works ?
[12:07] <johns^> gili: cdparanoia is the most reliable :)
[12:07] <der0b> doesn't grip use cdparanoia?
[12:07] <gili> yes grip uses cdparanoia....
[12:08] <gili> i am having some problems with grip and LAME
[12:08] <gili> i like grip but it is not encoding my tracks
[12:08] <der0b> I never attempted to config lame with grip
[12:08] <johns^> Theodor: you will probably have to modify /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:09] <junk269> hi all
[12:09] <siv0x> axisys: okay, got it.. now mic isnt working.
[12:09] <Theodor> johns^, I was thinking the same ... do you know where does a USB HDD gets mounted?
[12:09] <gili> how does one get mp3 support in sound juicer
[12:09] <gili> ?
[12:09] <jrwa> hi there! :)
[12:09] <junk269> i no this is ubuntu but do you all mind a fast os ?? not related to ubuntu?pls
[12:09] <jrwa> is there possible to launch a program (kid3) with different encoding than the default? ^^
[12:09] <johns^> Theodor: somewhere in /media i would guess
[12:09] <jrwa> *is it
[12:10] <wirelessnoob> Hi: I have just installed a Belkin 5Fd700uk wireless card.  I've installed no drivers, but wireless assistant can see the router (and other peoples).  I've got 128-bit WEP working on windows, but can't get w/less asst to authenticate.  Am I doing something obviously stupid?
[12:10] <junk269> knoppix 5.0.1 an accelerated knoppix5.0.1 is there an difference?
[12:11] <Jimmey> Where are my kernel headers?
[12:11] <der0b> junk269: you might ask in #knoppix
[12:11] <junk269> i did i think there all in here lol
[12:11] <junk269> i didnt get an answer
[12:11] <mnoir> Jimmey: /usr/src
[12:12] <der0b> just ask and wait, there may not be anyone around to answer you at the moment
[12:12] <Jimmey> mnoir, "The directory you have provided is not a valid Linux headers location."
[12:13] <Jimmey> mnoir, this is configuring wacom-kernel-source
[12:13] <cafuego_> Jimmey: You need the 'linux-headers-$(uname -r)' package.
[12:13] <junk269> see ya
[12:13] <cafuego_> Jimmey: Then the kernel src dir will be /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[12:14] <mnoir> Jimmey: you asked where they were - I didn't know you hadn't installed them yet... :)
[12:14] <gregcha117> everytime i try to install the new Kaffeine from src it says "no targets specified and no makefile found. stop."
[12:14] <seanj> hi people
[12:14] <Jimmey> Ahh :-P
[12:15] <axisys> siv0x: u have to play w/ in and out
[12:15] <axisys> your out works now.. u have to make sure in is check'd as well
[12:15] <MuffY> good evening
[12:15] <axisys> audio-in that is
[12:15] <siv0x> axisys: I am.. but in the switch tab all i have is one box that i can check or uncheck.
[12:15] <n2diy> !hi
[12:15] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:16] <MuffY> i'd like some advice on installing ubuntu on my computer
[12:16] <axisys> siv0x: so if u check it in stops working?
[12:16] <solitude> can someone guide me through getting my usb wireless stick to work on ubuntu?
[12:16] <gregcha117> muffy: what do you want to do?
[12:16] <gregcha117> muffy: do you want to just have ubuntu or dual boot it with windows?
[12:16] <wheels3572> crimsun, I would like to thank you for ALL your help lastnight you got me started in the right direciton :)
[12:16] <MuffY> first of all, would it be wise to keep a small 10-15G windows partition, or can you emulate most windows things on ubuntu
[12:17] <siv0x> axisys: what is aux?
[12:17] <MuffY> gregcha117: i don't want to know if i want a dual boot system or not =p
[12:17] <siv0x> axisys: yes i have it unchecked and headphones are working, just the mic is like muted or something somewhere
[12:17] <lnknpk04> i'm trying to install my wireless card through ndiswrapper and the driver says that its an invalid driver when i know its not
[12:17] <MuffY> oop
[12:17] <MuffY> s
[12:17] <mnoir> MuffY: keep the windows until 4 months after the last time you boot it
[12:17] <Z_Morek> anyone know why lircd would be looking for config in the /etc directory instead of /etc/lirc
[12:17] <MuffY> nice one =)
[12:17] <MuffY> ok, then my next question:
[12:18] <solitude> How do i get my wireless card to work on a fresh ubuntu install?
[12:18] <solitude> its picked up in networking, but it doesnt work after i enable it
[12:18] <lnknpk04> if anyone thinks they might be able to help, i can message you the error i get in dmesg
[12:18] <Rick_Timmis> Z_Morek did you compile lircd with a config dir prefix ?
[12:18] <MuffY> would it by wise to have 1) a small windows partition than a larger ubuntu partition, and make the rest a big FAT32 partition i can put files on readable for both windows and ubuntu?
[12:18] <Jimmey> solitude, what does "lspci | grep Network"
[12:18] <Jimmey> Say?
[12:19] <MuffY> or are there ways i can let windows read these "ext2 something" linux filesystems
[12:19] <wheels3572> Can anyone tell me why I can hear all sound in gaim and playing sound from a website but when I goto play MP3's I cant hear crap
[12:19] <solitude> it says bash: grep command not found
[12:19] <solitude> bash: lspci: command not found
[12:20] <Jimmey> :-S
[12:20] <siv0x> axisys: all i see is line out, line2, to do with in/out
[12:20] <mnoir> MuffY: in practice, using a smallish fat32 as a pivot is usually better and moving things there only that you need to share - you prolly will not be going back and forth and back and forth
[12:20] <Rick_Timmis> wheels372 do you have mp3 support installed ?
[12:20] <wheels3572> Rick_Timmis, No idea lol
[12:20] <lnknpk04> i'm haivng a similar problem Jimmy...when i do that command it says "02:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4309 802.11a/b/g (rev 03)"
[12:20] <Rick_Timmis> ok so so you need to install automatix
[12:20] <Rick_Timmis> and then run it
[12:20] <solitude> Jimmey, should i have entered them as separate commands?
[12:20] <n2diy> !automatix
[12:20] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:20] <Rick_Timmis> command line apt-get update
[12:20] <MuffY> mnoir: so if i need  file in windows, i copy it to the FAT32 partition from linux, and then read it with windows?
[12:20] <Rick_Timmis> then apt get install automatix
[12:21] <mnoir> MuffY: you will need to decide which os is your chosen 'home' and only use the other when necessary
[12:21] <n2diy> !automatix
[12:21] <MuffY> i bet it's going to be ubuntu
[12:21] <MuffY> though i never used it before
[12:21] <mnoir> yes - that is what most who are trying to abandon Uncle Bill do
[12:21] <wheels3572> Rick_Timmis, I already did actually it's installed here
[12:21] <MuffY> but it doesn't look like i can't do important thinks on ubuntu which i can on windows =)
[12:21] <solitude> aha
[12:22] <mnoir> what important things?
[12:22] <n2diy> MuffY: like what?
[12:22] <solitude> Jimmey, i reentered it, and it returns nothing
[12:22] <wheels3572> Rick_Timmis, I have a bunch of Media Players
[12:22] <mnoir> OO is waay better than Office, FF runs on both, TB is better than WinMail
[12:22] <J-_> !beagle
[12:22] <ubotu> beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.9-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 804 kB, installed size 3160 kB
[12:22] <gili> how does one encode to mp3 format with soundjuicer???
[12:23] <Z_Morek> Rick_Timmis... don't think so...
[12:23] <MuffY> 1) browsing, 2) a bit image manipulation(yay gimp!) [nothing serious] , 3) compiling programs for consoles (NDS for example ^_^)
[12:23] <MuffY> winmail?
[12:23] <wheels3572> Helix Player, Movie Player, Rhythmbox Music Player, Xfmedia and XMMS Media Player
[12:23] <mnoir> MuffY: um - i forgot the name of outlook
[12:23] <MuffY> i think i'm glad i don;t know what that is
[12:23] <MuffY> brrrr
[12:23] <MuffY> don't say outlook when i'm near
[12:23] <mnoir> :)
[12:23] <MuffY> had some nasty experiences with it xD
[12:24] <mnoir> so does everybody else
[12:24] <MuffY> all hail gmail =p
[12:24] <lnknpk04> can anyone help me get my wireless working?
[12:24] <Rick_Timmis> Z_Morek usually most daemons when compiled accept a config_dir as part of the compile time configuration, this will be in the docs. alternativel you could just move all the lircd configs into /etc to act as a work round
[12:24] <TheNabb> what app is best for dvd ripping?
[12:24] <mnoir> so anyway - you may find the linux stuff better - my wife did
[12:24] <MuffY> ty peeps
[12:24] <mnoir> tias :)
[12:24] <Z_Morek> Rick_Timmis: how about symlinks?
[12:25] <Rick_Timmis> wheels3572 you need to go take a look at the ubuntu pages for mp3 support give me 2 minutes I will get a link for you BRB
[12:25] <Rick_Timmis> Z-Morek sure you could use symlinks
[12:26] <Z_Morek> Rick_Timmis: well then I have a bigger problem... I tried symlinking the files and it's still using the wrong /dev/lirc
[12:26] <gili> so is it possible to use soundjuicer to make mp3....or no?
[12:26] <MuffY> anyone has a nice link to a "ubuntu - winXP dual boot system"
[12:26] <HymnToLife> yet, that's wat it's for
[12:26] <Shocka311> is there a way to delete a folder quickly in terminal if it isn't empty or do I have to empty its folders and all its sub folders first?
[12:26] <HymnToLife> I never managed to get it working tho
[12:27] <solitude> someone pm me if they have the time to help me please
[12:27] <MuffY> should be:  anyone has a nice link to a "ubuntu - winXP dual boot system" howto**
[12:27] <der0b> shocka311: rm -rf will recursivly force delete a dir and anything beneath it
[12:27] <HymnToLife> Shadowpillar, (sudo) rm -rf /path/to/folder - use with care and think before you type !
[12:27] <Fireal> Hello all, looking for a simple utility to convert various movie file formats to mpeg-4...any suggestions?
[12:27] <HymnToLife> Shocka311* sorry :p
[12:27] <n2diy> Shocka311: do 'man rm" and look for the recursive switch, and be careful.
[12:27] <Rick_Timmis> wheels3572  here is a link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3?highlight=%28mp3%29
[12:27] <sekondchakra> anyone know if there's a "moblock" channel somewhere?
[12:28] <Shocka311> der0b: I tried that and it saidthere is no such comand as -r
[12:28] <lnknpk04> can anyone help me get my wireless working with ndiswrapper (or if you know of a different way, that would be appreciated too)?
[12:28] <HymnToLife> lnknpk04, sure we can help you but more details would be appreciated
[12:28] <der0b> what was the exact error shocka311
[12:28] <Rick_Timmis> Z_Morek well thats a different problem, I am afraid I don't know a thing about lirc but you /etc problem was common with compile time prefix's
[12:28] <Shocka311> der0b: let me get it again
[12:29] <lnknpk04> 02:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4309 802.11a/b/g (rev 03)
[12:29] <MuffY> gregcha117: you said something about a dual boot system some lines ago. Got a link?
[12:29] <n2diy> der0b: he probably needs to sudo it?
[12:29] <lnknpk04> when i install the driver, it says that it is invalid, when it is the correct one accordig to the list on the ndiswrapper wiki
[12:29] <HymnToLife> lnknpk04, nice, I installed the very seme just yesterday :p
[12:29] <Shadowpillar> HymnToLife:  I prefer rm -rf /*
[12:29] <lnknpk04> :)
[12:29] <wheels3572> Rick_Timmis, ty im looking now
[12:29] <lnknpk04> the one i was trying to use is bcmwl5a.inf
[12:29] <HymnToLife> Shadowpillar, you'll need sudo to do this
[12:29] <Shocka311> der0b: rmdir: invalid option -- r
[12:30] <der0b> shocka311: you need to use rm not rmdir
[12:30] <HymnToLife> Shocka311, rm, not rmdir
[12:30] <Shocka311> thanks
[12:30] <der0b> please just be careful :)
[12:30] <siv0x> axisys: none worked.
[12:30] <HymnToLife> and think before you type
[12:31] <MuffY> no one has a link to an ubuntu -WinXP dual boot system?
[12:31] <HymnToLife> !ask | MuffY
[12:31] <ubotu> MuffY: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:31] <lnknpk04> HymnToLife: i have ndiswrapper installed from Automatix for Edgy.  i'm in the dir of the file and i type in sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5a.inf
[12:31] <lnknpk04> right so far?
[12:31] <Rick_Timmis> Muffy I run an XP Ubiuntu dual boot
[12:31] <n2diy> MuffY: is Xp installed now?
[12:31] <bob> MuffY, me too
[12:31] <Rick_Timmis> I never really use
[12:31] <Rick_Timmis> XP accept now
[12:31] <HymnToLife> lnknpk04, yes, except for the Automatix part
[12:31] <lnknpk04> what do you mean?
[12:31] <HymnToLife> !automatix
[12:31] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:32] <n2diy> MuffY: is Xp installed now?
[12:32] <bob> MuffY, install XP first.. then just install ubuntu it will setup grub for you
[12:32] <MuffY> not really
[12:32] <wheels3572> Rick_Timmis, one other question for you. Can I use Amarok even though im using Xubuntu?
[12:32] <lnknpk04> ah
[12:32] <lnknpk04> ok
[12:32] <seanj> !install
[12:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:32] <MuffY> ok
[12:32] <HymnToLife> wheels3572, certainly
[12:32] <MuffY> ty guys =)
[12:32] <lnknpk04> is there a command that i can use to uninstall ndiswrapper and install it fresh from the site?
[12:32] <wheels3572> HymnToLife, ty
[12:32] <MuffY> install ubuntu while runnig windows?
[12:32] <Rick_Timmis> wheels3572 Yes sure you can but you will need the bde-base libraries installed for tit to work
[12:32] <Fireal> Muffy: check google vids for a quick tutorial
[12:32] <Rick_Timmis> soory kde
[12:33] <Fireal> I'll get a link 1 sec
[12:33] <n2diy> MuffY: no boot from the Ubuntu CD.
[12:33] <HymnToLife> lnknpk04, it should work the way it is, please just don't use Automatix in the future
[12:33] <Rick_Timmis> sorry I mean kde-base libraries installed along with QT
[12:33] <lnknpk04> !WorksForMe
[12:33] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[12:33] <lnknpk04> lol
[12:33] <lnknpk04> i wont.  someone told me to...
[12:33] <HymnToLife> so, you run ndiswrapper -i, and what ?
[12:33] <Fireal> Muffy: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=ubuntu&hl=en
[12:34] <lnknpk04> [17187902.584000]  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.
[12:34] <lnknpk04> thats what shows up in dmesg
[12:34] <MuffY> Fireal: ty
[12:34] <seanj> i just got a new computer with an AMD AThlon 64 processor... do I have to use the 64 bit install image?
[12:34] <lnknpk04> and it says the driver is invalid
[12:34] <MuffY> the rest: ty too =p
[12:34] <mEz> O.o
[12:34] <noelferreira> i just installed ATI open drivers but i can't have direct render working. any help?
[12:34] <bob> lnknpk04, you need the firmware package
[12:34] <HymnToLife> lnknpk04, hold on, I'll give you the link to the driver I used
[12:34] <lnknpk04> thx
[12:34] <Rick_Timmis> seanj this would be the best route
[12:34] <bob> lnknpk04, apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[12:35] <Fireal> does anyone convert video files to mpeg-4
[12:35] <lynucs> how to use another ligon manager like entrance??
[12:35] <seanj> is it faster? the reason I ask is because I already have the x86 image burned
[12:35] <lynucs> login manager
[12:35] <wheels3572> Rick_Timmis, Ok I have the following players should I just get rid of them all and use only one?  I have Helix Player, Movie Player, Rhythmbox Music Player, Xfmedia and XMMS Media Player
[12:35] <Shocka311> what commands do I use to edit my /fstab
[12:35] <MuffY> seanj: they told be i should use the x86 image
[12:35] <HymnToLife> lnknpk04, http://cmb.phys.cwru.edu/kisner/linux/compaq-r3000/bcmwl5a.tar.gz
[12:35] <Music_Shuffle> seanj, you can use either.
[12:35] <Rick_Timmis> noelferreira has your Xorg.conf file been updated to use the new ATI drivesr ?
[12:35] <seanj> ok thank you all :)
[12:35] <HymnToLife> Shocka311, your favourite text editor
[12:36] <Music_Shuffle> seanj, each method has its good and bad sides ;P
[12:36] <seanj> lol ok
[12:36] <lnknpk04> thanks
[12:36] <MuffY> cause some non-free software (like flash player) isn't there for 64 processors
[12:36] <lnknpk04> lemme give that a shot
[12:36] <seanj> i could live without flash player :)
[12:36] <Shocka311> hymntolife: i want to do it from terminal
[12:36] <Music_Shuffle> seanj, then go for 64. :D
[12:36] <noelferreira> yes Rick_Timmis
[12:37] <n2diy> Shocka311: then use nano
[12:37] <HymnToLife> Shocka311, then use nano, it's a nice user-friendly command line editor :             sudo nano /etc/fstab
[12:37] <noelferreira> i changed now ati to radeon in device just to check Rick_Timmis
[12:37] <kyncani> seanj: and without w32codecs
[12:37] <Shocka311> awesome
[12:37] <bob> anyone know any good bandwidth testing software?
[12:37] <seamus_ie> hey has anyone here any experience with ubuntu on a hp pavillion dv6186eu ( amd 64 -x )
[12:37] <HymnToLife> !anyone | seamus_ie
[12:37] <ubotu> seamus_ie: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:37] <Rick_Timmis> noelferreira what dou you get if you ask for glxinfo in a terminal ?
[12:38] <Fireal> bob:  http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
[12:38] <bob> i max that out.. hehe
[12:38] <noelferreira> lots of things Rick_Timmis
[12:38] <firephoto> can anyone with feisty installed tell me if the pata_marvell module is there by default?
[12:38] <noelferreira> Rick_Timmis: vendor mesa
[12:38] <Rick_Timmis> Sure but does it say Direct Rendering yes ?
[12:38] <noelferreira> Rick_Timmis: direct rendering no
[12:38] <lnknpk04> ok.  now when i do ndiswrapper -l it says driver installed
[12:38] <wirelessnoob> Hi: I have just installed a Belkin 5Fd700uk wireless card.  I've installed no drivers, but wireless assistant can see the router (and other peoples).  I've got 128-bit WEP working on windows, but can't get w/less asst to authenticate.  Am I doing something obviously stupid?
[12:38] <lnknpk04> at least that worked...
[12:39] <gili> i have a very simple question....?
[12:39] <kennyb0328> I have a hpscanjet 5100c scanner.  Would like to get it working on linux ubuntu
[12:39] <lnknpk04> now, its not saying "driver present, hardware present" yet.  Is there something i'm missing?
[12:39] <HymnToLife> lnknpk04, have you removed the bcm43xx module so it doesn't conflicts with ndiswrapper ?
[12:40] <gili> how do i format a device that show up in my computer
[12:40] <Progon> Is it true, that the java plugin of jre-6-linux-amd64.bin doesn't work with the firefox 2.0 x64? Or how can i install it on edgy?
[12:40] <lynucs> guys, how do i use entrance instead of gdm on ubuntu??
[12:40] <ortega10> how do i make the clock synchronize with a web server more often, or at least on startup?  right now it does it once a day (i guess?), so it's never in sync when i boot from windows to linux...
[12:40] <lnknpk04> i wasn't sure how.  Sorry
[12:40] <HymnToLife> lnknpk04, sudo modprobe -r bcm4"xx
[12:40] <HymnToLife> 3*
[12:40] <Fireal> OK, I'll throw this out there.  I want to convert video files into mpeg-4 (aka mpeg4).  I think mencoder might be the answer but I cannot for the life of me figure it out.  Any suggestions?
[12:41] <lnknpk04> done
[12:41] <Rick_Timmis> noelferreira Have you taken a look at your Xorg.log and looked for EE entries, i.e cat /var/log/Xorg.log | grep EE
[12:41] <n2diy> ortega10: right click on the clock, and select adjust date and time, sync options are there.
[12:41] <seamus_ie> yea cheers HymnToLife, I have bought a new hp pavillion laptop with a dual core 64 bit amd processor and I would like to avoid any hardship involved in getting edgy install on the laptop, hence I'm trying to find people with experience
[12:41] <lynucs> anyone? how do i set entrance login manager as standard instead of gmd
[12:41] <lnknpk04> it didn't give me any messages, it just skipped down to a new line.  is there any way to check that it was actually removed?
[12:41] <gregcha117> everytime i try to install kaffeine i get "can't find x libraries. pleace check in your installation and add the correct paths"
[12:41] <lynucs> isntead of gdm
[12:41] <noelferreira> i will paste bin it to you Rick_Timmis
[12:41] <HymnToLife> lnknpk04, it's normal behavior
[12:41] <kyncani> gili: qtparted | gparted
[12:41] <ortega10> n2diy: there aren't really many options... i can't configure how often or anything like that
[12:41] <lnknpk04> ok.  Just wanted to be sure
[12:41] <HymnToLife> it it wasn't removed, you would'be got an error message
[12:42] <HymnToLife> ve*
[12:42] <Rick_Timmis> noelferreira Does your new ATI card use Systems RAM, and have you enabled it use in your BIOS >?
[12:42] <gili> kyncani: yes i know gparted....is there no simple built in disk managment app to fomat a device
[12:42] <n2diy> ortega10: then you could setup a cron job to use "ntp pool.ntp.org"
[12:42] <HymnToLife> lnknpk04, what does ndiswrapper -l tell you now ?
[12:42] <lnknpk04> Hymntolife: checking
[12:42] <noelferreira> Rick_Timmis: http://pastebin.ca/297265
[12:42] <ortega10> n2diy: ok thanks
[12:42] <Rick_Timmis> OK 2 minutes
[12:42] <HymnToLife> gili, gparted not simple enough ?
[12:42] <lnknpk04> just driver installed
[12:42] <lnknpk04> nothing about the hardware
[12:43] <seamus_ie> Fireal: ffmpeg will do this for you I think
[12:43] <HymnToLife> hmm
[12:43] <lnknpk04> weird, eh?
[12:43] <Fireal> thanks seamus will give it a try
[12:43] <HymnToLife> try runing the -i part again
[12:43] <kyncani> gili: qtparted and gparted are both simple apps i think
[12:43] <lnknpk04> maybe try removing the driver and installing it again?
[12:43] <lnknpk04> k
[12:43] <ortega10> Fireal: install audacity
[12:44] <gili> yes gparted is very simple....i just thought there was something out of the box
[12:44] <gili> got it....thanks
[12:44] <lnknpk04> nope.  just "driver installed"
[12:44] <Rick_Timmis> noelferreira can ou pate bin you rXorg.conf and the output from glxinfo also please
[12:44] <BHSPitMonkey> got a problem
[12:45] <siv0x> Can anyone tell me how to receive mic capture, or how to unmute my mic.. my sound card is an audigy 2 zs
[12:45] <HymnToLife> lnknpk04, are you sure you have a Broadcom ?
[12:45] <lnknpk04> oh yeah
[12:45] <superkirbyartist> How do you load power manager in Xfce?
[12:45] <lnknpk04> what i sent you came from the terminal
[12:45] <BHSPitMonkey> I tried to install j2re in synaptic, but it's on a Licence Agreement screen in the "terminal" part, and I can't select "OK". (Like I said, it's synaptic; I can't interact with the terminal output"
[12:45] <lnknpk04> and in device manager it says broadcom
[12:45] <BHSPitMonkey> what can I do?
[12:45] <noelferreira> ok Rick_Timmis
[12:46] <seamus_ie> superkirbyartist: what do you mean by powermanager?
[12:46] <JAyRULE> question! i just formated another harddrive and used the mount command so that it could be of use.  im planning on editing the file fstab so that it is mounted every single time i log in, but do i need to add it someplace so that it is unmounted everytime i log off?
[12:46] <superkirbyartist> superkirbyartist: The one that indicates battery power etc.
[12:46] <n2diy> BHSPitMonkey: Scroll through the agreement, then ok should be enabled.
[12:46] <lnknpk04> weird thing is that i was getting a dif. problem  last night, but it actually recognized the hardware.  That was before the format and reinstall this morning
[12:46] <BHSPitMonkey> n2diy, I'll go try... it wasn't responding to anything
[12:46] <superkirbyartist> seamus_ie: The one that indicates battery power etc.
[12:46] <seamus_ie> install the plugin through synaptic and then right click on the xfce-panel
[12:46] <compengi> hey gnomefreak
[12:47] <superkirbyartist> How do I use my PCMCIA modem?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> hi
[12:48] <BHSPitMonkey> n2diy, ok, it must have been stuck before... now it's responsive
[12:48] <BHSPitMonkey> thanks
[12:48] <Rick_Timmis> noelferreira here what I believe is the problem, lines from you Xorg.log -
[12:48] <Rick_Timmis> (II) RADEON(0): PCI card detected
[12:48] <Rick_Timmis> (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering broken on XPRESS 200 and 200M
[12:48] <Rick_Timmis> (II) RADEON(0): Detected total video RAM=65536K, accessible=131072K (PCI BAR=131072K)
[12:48] <n2diy> BHSPitMonkey: cool.
[12:48] <MAVIN> join #ubuntu-it
[12:48] <jamesstansell> hi - does anyone know how to set WPA using rutilt?
[12:48] <n2diy> !it
[12:48] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:48] <jamesstansell> !rutilt
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rutilt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <cld2> anyone know if there is a problem with the amd64 mythtv package?
[12:48] <Rick_Timmis> looks like DRI is not functional with this driver and card
[12:48] <cockroach> is there a way to de-eyecandify ubuntu? my graphics card (and the whole system) is rather slow, thus the effects (like the shading when logging out) appear quite ridiculous ... :)
[12:49] <seanj> you could use xubuntu on a slower machine
[12:49] <HymnToLife> lnknpk04, hmm, actually the drivers I sent you are for BMC4306, not 4309
[12:49] <Music_Shuffle> cockroach, uhh, you could turn off a few more things, but really you might just want to try XFCE or Flux.
[12:49] <HymnToLife> maybe that the problem
[12:49] <noelferreira> ya Rick_Timmis it says then that dry is not capable
[12:49] <seamus_ie> cockroach: try xfce, I had the same problem and loved xfce
[12:49] <HymnToLife> pastebin outputs of lspci and lspci -n
[12:49] <lnknpk04> sure
[12:49] <noelferreira> or something like tha
[12:49] <noelferreira> taht
[12:49] <lnknpk04> !pastebin
[12:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:50] <BHSPitMonkey> cockroach, xubuntu flies on such machines; look into it
[12:50] <Music_Shuffle> MasterShrek, welcome back. ;P
[12:50] <MasterShrek> :)
[12:50] <JAyRULE> QUESTION! i just formated another harddrive and used the mount command so that it could be of use.  im planning on editing the file fstab so that it is mounted every single time i log in, but do i need to add it someplace so that it is unmounted everytime i log off?
[12:50] <cockroach> Music_Shuffle: is it as well-integrated as gnome? i'm using xfce on another machine (debian), but for the linux newcomer (who gets the pc) it might be a little difficult...
[12:50] <MasterShrek> no JAyRULE it will do it automatically
[12:50] <Music_Shuffle> cockroach, yeah you should be fine.
[12:50] <noelferreira> Rick_Timmis: however i have the same problem with fglrx drivers
[12:50] <jamesstansell> when I run rutilt I get "can't find adhocmode private ioctl"  This is edgy. I don't need adhoc, just managed.
[12:50] <cockroach> BHSPitMonkey: xubuntu == ubuntu with xfce?
[12:50] <BHSPitMonkey> cockroach, yeah, like Kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE, etc
[12:50] <JAyRULE> oh okay thanks MasterShrek
[12:50] <siv0x> Wow. this is so annoying.. Does anyone know how to unmute a mic, or how to get mic capture? my sound card is an audigy2
[12:51] <NYBravest24> if i have a linksys wireless adapter installed and i install ubuntu will it work ok?
[12:51] <seamus_ie> cockroach: xfce is pretty well integrated, make sure to use the Thunar file manager over xffm
[12:51] <Rick_Timmis> neolferrreira do you have an ATI Radeon Xpress 200 or 200M
[12:51] <MasterShrek> siv0x check your alsamixer
[12:51] <cockroach> okay. so is there a way to migrate an existing installation or should i just reinstall?
[12:51] <harrisony1> JAyRULE: no i dont think
[12:51] <lynucs> how do iremove gdm from the bootsequence??
[12:51] <siv0x> MasterShrek: already did.
[12:51] <lnknpk04> HymnTolife: heres the first
[12:51] <lnknpk04> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39521/
[12:51] <BHSPitMonkey> lynucs, you could go to System>Admin.>Services and uncheck it
[12:52] <Rick_Timmis> sivox I may be able to help what window manager are you running ?
[12:52] <BHSPitMonkey> lynucs, "Graphical login manager" there
[12:52] <lynucs> BHSPitMonkey: and how to set another login manager??
[12:52] <jamesstansell> NYBravest24: there's a chance, especially if don't know care about wireless encryption
[12:52] <BHSPitMonkey> lynucs, kdm? or what
[12:52] <lnknpk04> HymnToLife: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39522/ the second
[12:52] <lynucs> entrance
[12:52] <siv0x> Rick_Timmis: gdm
[12:52] <Rick_Timmis> sivox sorry I mean Gnome or KDE ?
[12:53] <fu-k-t> hi
[12:53] <siv0x> Rick_Timmis: gnome
[12:53] <PWill> GAH! Are the archives down? I've been stuck at "99% [Waiting for headers]  " for about 5 minutes on a 5mbit connection...
[12:53] <lynucs> BHSPitMonkey: it is entrance..
[12:53] <fu-k-t> how do i change a user's group from the command lone?
[12:53] <jamesstansell> NYBravest24: which linksys do you have?  Have you tried to read about it yet?
[12:53] <fu-k-t> *line
[12:53] <BHSPitMonkey> lynucs, do they have a hannel? :P
[12:53] <n2diy> fu-k-t: chgroup
[12:53] <BHSPitMonkey> *channel
[12:53] <HymnToLife> lnknpk04, could you paste the lspci line regarding your wireless ? (just one line, no ned to pastebin)
[12:53] <lnknpk04> sure
[12:53] <siv0x> Rick_Timmis: but if needed i will bootup on KDE.. just so i get this mic working : (
[12:53] <lynucs> BHSPitMonkey: a channel? yes, but they redirected me to ubuntu folks :D
[12:54] <Rick_Timmis> sivox Sorry then I am not sure, I now that KDE sets up the audigy in half duplex hence the mike fails to work. What sound system are you using ALSA ?
[12:54] <lnknpk04> 02:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4309 802.11a/b/g (rev 03)
[12:54] <cerridwen> bcm crap
[12:54] <abram> :-)
[12:54] <fu-k-t> n2diy: not a file's group, a user's group
[12:54] <abram> hi
[12:54] <Lunch> Here's a Noob question, do I need a firewall with this?
[12:54] <siv0x> Rick_Timmis: yes
[12:54] <kyncani> fu-k-t: usermod
[12:54] <fu-k-t> thanks, kyncani
[12:55] <siv0x> Rick_Timmis: My mic doesnt work on either, KDE or Gnome :\
[12:55] <n2diy> fu-k-t: are you in X, or the command line?
[12:55] <fu-k-t> command line
[12:55] <siv0x> Rick_Timmis: but yes. I normally use KDE.. think this has something to do with why my mic doesnt work?
[12:55] <Rick_Timmis> sivox You probably want to take a look at ALSA-Mixer etc.. try a start with man alsa and take it from there. ALSA provides a subset of commeand line tools that will help you fix this but you will need to do som RTFM
[12:56] <kyncani> fu-k-t: although editing /etc/passwd and /etc/group is easier
[12:56] <fu-k-t> that's what i was looking for
[12:56] <HymnToLife> lnknpk04, http://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R76521na.EXE <= extract with cabextract
[12:56] <fu-k-t> couldn't remember that stuff was in passwd
[12:56] <seanj> Lunch, probably not
[12:56] <lnknpk04> HymnToLife - does it matter if i just use the command "unzip" ?
[12:57] <seanj> I've gotten away without a firewall for months
[12:57] <HymnToLife> it's an EXE, you'll have trouble unzipping it ;;)
[12:57] <lnknpk04> it works on those
[12:57] <lnknpk04> sec
[12:57] <siv0x> Rick_Timmis: I dont really know much about Alsa and all that i'm pretty new on linux.
[12:58] <Lunch> seanj, I'm a windows user, not having at least a firewall running at all times is really scary to me. Thanks.
[12:58] <lnknpk04> done
[12:58] <Rick_Timmis> sivox OK that's not gonna be a problem, certainly the Augidgy 2 card will work you just need to configure it - here's a useful link http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/8234/print
[12:58] <lnknpk04> all downloaded and unzipped
[12:59] <HymnToLife> !firewall | Lunch
[12:59] <ubotu> Lunch: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:59] <abram> 8-)
[12:59] <HymnToLife> you have one running, just you don't notice it cause it's so well designed :)
[12:59] <seanj> Lunch, you could try using Synaptic to install firestarter firewall
[12:59] <lnknpk04> HymnToLife: which file should i use to install
[12:59] <seanj> it's similar to things like ZoneAlarm
[01:00] <lnknpk04> bcmwl5?
[01:00] <siv0x> Rick_Timmis: i'm pretty sure my Audigy2 card is working.. just my mic isnt working
[01:01] <Rick_Timmis> sivox OK does it work under windows, or elsehwere ?
[01:01] <HymnToLife> lnknpk04, the ndiswrapper Wiki says to use bcmwl5a.inf in directory AR
[01:01] <lnknpk04> yup, i see it.  sec
[01:02] <siv0x> Rick_Timmis: yes, it works under windows.
[01:02] <binkles> irc.p2p-network.net
[01:02] <lnknpk04> ok.  it displays "Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|2" 10 times..
[01:02] <buchan> Anyone know how I could get python-qt4 4.1.1 installed via deb when it doesn't exist in the repos? Excuse my stupidity, I'm not a Ubuntu/Debian user.
[01:03] <Rick_Timmis> OK So then the hardware is good. Which application are you trying to record into ?
[01:03] <lnknpk04> woohoo
[01:03] <lnknpk04> now it shows
[01:03] <nailz> Lunch easy firewall to get/use is Firestarter (I use one all the time m8)
[01:03] <lnknpk04> hardware present
[01:03] <HymnToLife> :)
[01:03] <lnknpk04> :)
[01:03] <HymnToLife> now do         sudo depmod -a && sudo modprobe ndiwsrapper
[01:03] <siv0x> Rick_Timmis: Not record.. Just comunicate through TeamSpeak.
[01:03] <lnknpk04> gotcha, sec
[01:04] <lnknpk04> what does depmod -a do?
[01:04] <HymnToLife> and don't forget to blacklist the damned bcm43xx so it won't mess everything up at next reboot :)
[01:04] <lnknpk04> where do i go to blacklist it?
[01:04] <Rick_Timmis> TeamSpeak Mmm could this be the problem ? are you bel to record into audacity ?
[01:04] <Rick_Timmis> bel -able
[01:05] <HymnToLife> lnknpk04, edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:05] <siv0x> Rick_Timmis, havent tried.
[01:05] <bob> lnknpk04, you should have tried to use the bcm43xx driver instead ndiswrapper is just a hack
[01:05] <siv0x> Rick_Timmis: again i'm new with linux : D
[01:05] <HymnToLife> add a line at the end like this :                  blacklist bcm43xx
[01:05] <HymnToLife> bob, I've never ever seen the bcm43xx working
[01:06] <bob> HymnToLife, I am using it now
[01:06] <bob> HymnToLife, you need the bcm43xx-fwcutter package to get the firmware
[01:06] <Rick_Timmis> OK so may be worth installing and testing audacity you can get this with the synaptics pakcage manager - Newbies we love em so no worries :-)
[01:06] <siv0x> Rick_Timmis: haha
[01:07] <siv0x> Rick_Timmis: will i be able to just sudo apt-get install audacity ?
[01:07] <Rick_Timmis> yep
[01:07] <Rick_Timmis> Your not that new then LOL
[01:07] <trpr> Rick_Timmis: I dunno. apt-get is the first thing i show to newbies ;)
[01:07] <psweetma_> hi, is anyone good on firefox 2 and plugins?  i can't get mplayer working as a plugin
[01:08] <siv0x> eh, I'm just remembering from about 2 years ago
[01:08] <bruenig> psweetma_, yeah, what is the problem?
[01:08] <psweetma_> hi bruenig, since i upgraded to firefox 2 lots of my multimedia stuff ain't working.  i'm not sure quite why
[01:09] <bruenig> psweetma_, what do you mean you upgraded to it?
[01:09] <DigitalNinja> What's the difference between gstreamer, totem and mplayer? Most of the multimedia instructoins say something about gstreamer and totem but nothing about mplayer.
[01:09] <ali_> hi
[01:09] <ali_> ? pengy
[01:09] <bruenig> gstreamer is not a multimedia player
[01:09] <psweetma_> bruenig, i've installed firefox2 in my home dir.  the plugins dir there is empty, but there's stuff in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins which seems to be getting picked up
[01:09] <BHSPitMonkey> DigitalNinja, gstreamer isn't a player
[01:09] <siccccness> i just installed ubuntu but it doesnt load gnome
[01:09] <ali_> ? peng
[01:09] <psweetma_> bruenig, for example, java applets are working, and flash too
[01:09] <ali_> hi
[01:09] <siccccness> sends me straight to command line
[01:10] <ali_> what is the peng place
[01:10] <bruenig> psweetma_, so it looks like this ~/firefox?
[01:10] <n2diy> siccccness: what happens when you type startx?
[01:10] <siccccness> nothing
[01:10] <DigitalNinja> BHSPitMonkey: What is it and what's it doing?
[01:10] <psweetma_> bruenig, yep
[01:10] <siccccness> i did the install via PXE
[01:10] <n2diy> siccccness: nothing?
[01:11] <BHSPitMonkey> DigitalNinja, programs will use gstreamer... basically it translates your files into something the sound server can use.
[01:11] <siccccness> i just did a "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx"
[01:11] <siccccness> its installing
[01:11] <BHSPitMonkey> it's made up of plugins, for various file formats, etc
[01:11] <n2diy> siccccness: good luck.
[01:11] <[Relic] > Is there any app that will allow for showing of bandwidth up/down in the bar rather than in an actual application?
[01:11] <webmaren> i/part
[01:11] <DigitalNinja> BHSPitMonkey: Do I need it?
[01:12] <siccccness> n2diy: why wouldnt a gui load at start up after installation?
[01:12] <bruenig> psweetma_, well what I would do is, sudo ln -s /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/* ~/firefox/plugins
[01:12] <n2diy> siccccness: it had trouble detecting your video card or monitor.
[01:12] <BHSPitMonkey> DigitalNinja, you already have it... it's advisable to install the extra plugin sets that aren't included by default ("bad" and "ugly")
[01:13] <bruenig> psweetma_, should symlink all of the plugins
[01:13] <DigitalNinja> BHSPitMonkey: I see
[01:13] <BHSPitMonkey> DigitalNinja, totem uses gstreamer as a backend
[01:13] <psweetma_> bruenig, ok i'll try that hang on
[01:13] <BHSPitMonkey> buh-bye.
[01:13] <siv0x> Rick_Timmis: Ahh, i gotta go.. Thanks for sharing this information.. i'll bookmark that site and that should help me out
[01:13] <siv0x> Rick_timmis: Bye
[01:14] <Rick_Timmis> sivox see you
[01:14] <mEz> x-chat is weird..
[01:14] <bruenig> mEz, how..
[01:14] <mEz> just not home like mirc? lol
[01:15] <psweetma_> bruenig, yeah that's sorted it, thanks!  i'm confused as to how it was picking some plugins up before (such as java) when my ~/firefox/plugins dir was empty, do you know how that works?
[01:15] <siccccness> I just did a fresh install when I boot it sends me to Ubuntu 6.10 ubuntufast tty1
[01:15] <siccccness> why does gnome not start at boot?
[01:15] <bruenig> psweetma_, I don't know,
[01:16] <n2diy> siccccness: now what does startx do?
[01:16] <Fujoor> lo people
[01:16] <psweetma_> bruenig. oh well, thanks anyway.  i've just tried the mplayer plug on a couple of sites, and it's only playing about 1 sec and then pausing, but at least it's trying to play it now!
[01:17] <Riyonuk> I disabled all Ipv6
[01:17] <Riyonuk> must I do it in firefox?
[01:18] <bruenig> psweetma_, well flash is in /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/ libflashplayer.so and java is in /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so, the rest of the stuff was in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[01:18] <bruenig> psweetma_, so it must have just not been picking /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[01:18] <siccccness> n2diy answer my pm?
[01:18] <n2diy> siccccness: I'm not registered.
[01:18] <Riyonuk> n2diy, Im on ubuntu now :)
[01:19] <n2diy> Riyonuk: cool, what was the fix?
[01:19] <n2diy> siccccness: I'm not registered, I can't receive PMs.
[01:19] <psweetma_> bruenig, i think you're right, (i thought i'd already tried symlinking to all the plugins, but obviously i hadn't, that or i made a mistake)
[01:19] <Riyonuk> n2diy, Ill get the link
[01:20] <Riyonuk> n2diy, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87798
[01:20] <Riyonuk> It helped to an extent >_>
[01:21] <n2diy> Is it just me, or are the forums slow to load?
[01:21] <bruenig> n2diy, they are slow, lot of traffic
[01:22] <Riyonuk> If I could fully get ubuntu's ipv6 issues solved, then I would love it over windows, right now I dont yet
[01:22] <psweetma_> bruenig, have just configured mplayer plugin to use oss and it's working a treat now.  nice
[01:22] <n2diy> Riyonuk: wow, most of that stuff is over my head.
[01:22] <bruenig> alsa > oss
[01:22] <n2diy> bruenig: roger on that.
[01:23] <bruenig> only 4 months away until feisty!
[01:24] <MrSprout> Hey guys, could I get some MPlayer help?
[01:25] <Riyonuk> n2diy, your kidding? It took me 2min to do it >_>
[01:25] <Riyonuk> :o
[01:25] <MrSprout> Whenever I open a video file in MPlayer I get the following error.
[01:25] <MrSprout> "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device."
[01:25] <lnknpk04> woohoo
[01:25] <lnknpk04> back on wireless
[01:26] <n2diy> Riyonuk: I just read the entire thread, it isn't as daunting as the first few posts make it seem to be.
[01:26] <JosefK> MrSprout, edit your .mplayer/config file and change vo= to something sensible
[01:26] <MrSprout> JosefK, I've been editing it
[01:26] <MrSprout> only I have no idea what to change it to
[01:26] <JosefK> mplayer -vo - help for a list
[01:26] <MrSprout> vo=xv
[01:27] <MrSprout> is what it is right now
[01:27] <MrSprout> alright, thanks
[01:27] <JosefK> MrSprout, my mplayer config @ http://randolphcarter.myby.co.uk/linux/config
[01:27] <JosefK> could be handy for debugging/testing, but that works fine here
[01:27] <MrSprout> brilliant, thanks
[01:27] <Panagant> I downloaded a file to install on Ubuntu as i am a newbiw to Linux/Ubuntu, i have no idea how to do this
[01:28] <MrSprout> What filetype Panagant?
[01:28] <Panagant> Google earth
[01:28] <Riyonuk> :)
[01:28] <Riyonuk> I hate havint to resort to hacks just to get internet working <_<
[01:28] <MrSprout> use automatix for that, it will do it for you.
[01:28] <bruenig> !automatix
[01:28] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:28] <JosefK> !danger
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about danger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <lnknpk04> !wpa
[01:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:29] <lnknpk04> :)
[01:29] <Lam_> how do i alias rm to rm -i?
[01:30] <cafuego_> alias rm='rm -i'
[01:30] <JosefK> stick it in your .bashrc, or (preferably) stick it in your .aliases and have your .bashrc source it
[01:30] <fildo> !codecs
[01:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:30] <n2diy> Lam_: open your .bashrc file, there are examples in there.
[01:30] <cafuego_> Pop that in .bashrc or /etc/bash.bashrc
[01:30] <Panagant> is there a standard line command to install programs/applications
[01:30] <psweetma_> Panagant, have you got a GoogleEarthLinux.bin file?
[01:30] <bruenig> Lam_, yeah, I usually set it up to use a .bash_aliases
[01:30] <Panagant> yes
[01:30] <bruenig> but that is probably unnecessary
[01:31] <psweetma_> panagant, is it on your desktop?
[01:31] <cafuego_> Panagant: I have a prepackaged one that comes as .deb file.
[01:31] <Lam_> neat. thanks guys
[01:31] <Panagant> yes
[01:31] <Panagant> psweetma: you have a solution
[01:31] <cafuego_> Panagant: Might be worth considering, as it auto-upgrades when I repackage new ones google releases.
[01:31] <psweetma_> panagant, to install the .bin file open a terminal window, cd to your desktop and run "sh ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin"
[01:32] <Panagant> i will try
[01:32] <JosefK> any emacs gurus around?  I'm wondering if the (select-window ...) (find-file ...) could be written more succinctly
[01:32] <cafuego_> Panagant:  http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/edgy-cafuego/google/
[01:32] <JosefK> in http://rafb.net/p/jkg5ar31.html
[01:32] <viking09> Is anyone expert on WLAN cards and ubuntu configuration? I have radio access, have assigned static IP but no ping through available :-(
[01:33] <plyp_werk> viking09: type iwconfig  and see if you have the frequency and the ESSID set
[01:33] <plyp_werk> viking09: having the right Frequency and ESSID is like having the right cable plugged in
[01:33] <plyp_werk> if you don't have it, you're not going to be able to ping
[01:34] <plyp_werk> viking09: also, "sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning" can list the available wireless networks
[01:34] <plyp_werk> or change "wlan0" to whatever your wireless interface is
[01:34] <plyp_werk> mine is "eth1" instead, for example
[01:34] <n2diy> plyp_werk: where were you two hours ago, when I was trying to help someone with a similair problem? :)
[01:35] <plyp_werk> n2diy: heh...i was trying to install drivers for my LCD brightness controls ;)
[01:35] <abra1> hey... it isn't a waste .... I have the same problem too
[01:35] <n2diy> plyp_werk: roger that, did they work?
[01:36] <plyp_werk> n2diy: not yet.  i have to remember how to make an initrd
[01:36] <plyp_werk> i should find that make-kpackage thing to make a kernel debian package
[01:36] <cafuego_> that's in kernel-package
[01:36] <plyp_werk> ahh
[01:36] <plyp_werk> thx
[01:36] <JosefK> build-essential kernel-package libncurses-devel
[01:36] <n2diy> plyp_werk: good luck, and I'm going to make a note of that iwconfig command.
[01:36] <cafuego_> libncurses5-dev
[01:36] <plyp_werk> n2diy: ya, for wireless, the essential commands are iwconfig and iwlist
[01:36] <cafuego_> libncurses-devel is a redhatism
[01:37] <Grok_> i installed eclipse 3.1 via synaptic. i wanted to develop in C which required me to upgrade to 3.2 so i could use CDT. 3.2 is not in the respositories so i downloaded the sdk tar file. i see that it runs ok without an "install" routine but should I remove my old version? i see that the original is spread all over the place with a "whereis eclipse".
[01:37] <JosefK> ah, thanks cafuego, I usually have to search for that one
[01:37] <plyp_werk> n2diy: to make it go, i normally do a scan, then set the essid and the channel, then i can ifup
[01:37] <psweetma_> Grok_, you can run Eclipse versions side by side, it's a very tidy app
[01:37] <Grok_> psweetma_, thanks
[01:38] <n2diy> plyp_werk: ok, I'm going to cut and paste this info for future ref.
[01:38] <plyp_werk> n2diy: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid foo channel bar    is the manual way to do it....but gnome network manager applet is easier for most people
[01:38] <viking09> I have ESSID set correctly, Link quality is 74/92, so I have access for sure.. Chaneel is not indicated in iwconfig response..
[01:38] <MrSprout> JosefK
[01:38] <plyp_werk> viking09: does iwconfig list a frequency?
[01:38] <JosefK> yup MrSprout?
[01:38] <MrSprout> I've been editing it with no success
[01:38] <MrSprout> umm
[01:38] <MrSprout> lemmie paste something
[01:38] <frank_b> just checking, will this procedure only extract the file to the folder I'm in and not install that same file? -> "Extract a single file named "blurf" (or a group of files named "blurf*" from a Debian archive: dpkg --fsys-tarfile foo_VVV-RRR.deb | tar -xf - blurf*"
[01:38] <JosefK> that's unusual, thanks, the output would be interesting
[01:38] <MrSprout> # Specify default video driver (see -vo help for a list).
[01:38] <MrSprout> #vo=xv
[01:38] <MrSprout> # Use SDL video with the aalib subdriver by default.
[01:38] <MrSprout> #vo = sdl:aalib
[01:38] <psweetma_> Grok_, no problem.  One thing to watch out for, you should have a .eclipse dir in your home dir.  This should be deleted (or renamed) before you start up the new version.
[01:39] <MrSprout> I cant see what's wrong there..
[01:39] <JosefK> nothing's wrong, it's commented out
[01:39] <psweetma_> Grok_, this dir holds a few internal config settings about the latest version of eclipse you used, and it's not supposed to be backwards compatible
[01:39] <psweetma_> Grok_, having said that, sometimes it just works anyway
[01:39] <JosefK> MrSprout, I'd look for another vo= somewhere in that file, and also check your shell has a DISPLAY variable (echo $DISPLAY)
[01:40] <plyp_werk> viking09: channels correspond to different frequencies
[01:40] <grout_> how can i download updates in my lamp server?
[01:40] <Grok_> psweetma_, thank you very much. i did give it a whirl before asking and it did indeed work but I'll take your advice anyways.
[01:40] <plyp_werk> viking09: so if you have one set, it'll display a frequency in iwconfig
[01:40] <klhrevolutionist> how to disable "/etc/init.d/hdparm" ?
[01:40] <MrSprout> it returned :0.0
[01:40] <MrSprout>  JosefK
[01:40] <JosefK> MrSprout, if you want that line to actually do something, remove the leading '#', and that output's fine MrSprout
[01:40] <Derek> hi, I'm trying to get ubuntu to boot on my computer and I'm running into a strange problem
[01:41] <Derek> I boot and after it goes through the loading screen with the bar, my monitor goes blank
[01:41] <Derek> I just tried it on my laptop and the boot disk works fine
[01:41] <Lunch> I'm running 10.6 on an AMD64, is there no hope of getting flash working?
[01:41] <MrSprout> JosefK, I think I'm editing the wrong thing
[01:41] <MrSprout> mplayer.conf?
[01:41] <liquiddoom> Lunch: Linux32 with firefox
[01:41] <Music_Shuffle> 10.6? Advanced, are you?
[01:41] <JosefK> MrSprout, ~/.mplayer/config
[01:41] <plyp_werk> Derek: i heard someone say that they had to turn off "Composite" in xorg.conf when that happens
[01:42] <grout_> how can i download updates in my lamp server?
[01:42] <wirelessnoob> I'm having some wierd problems trying to get a Belkin 5FD700uk wireless card working (on dapper).  DNS appears to be *really* misbehaving: I'm trying to access the Ubuntu forums and I'm getting a BBC (my homepage) 404!  When resolution happens, it seems to be extremely slow - every new site request hangs for about 15-20 secs, then it all suddeny arrives at 'normal' broadband speed...
[01:42] <JosefK> it's John Titor!
[01:42] <plyp_werk> Derek: don't ask me how to do it, but it's what i heard ;)
[01:42] <Derek> heh, well I need to eat dinner, but maybe someone can help me when I get back
[01:42] <Derek> thanks
[01:42] <plyp_werk> wirelessnoob: try a different DNS server?
[01:42] <plyp_werk> wirelessnoob: you can add a DNS server in /etc/resolv.conf
[01:42] <Riyonuk> My resolution is set to the highest but the icons still seem to big for me, in windows 1280x1024 was huge, in ubuntu its small
[01:43] <viking09> plyp_werk: Yes, frequency indicated, phew. 2.462 which should correlate to channel 11..
[01:43] <gonzokce> join #polska
[01:43] <liquiddoom> Riyonuk: You can add extra resolutions in xorg.conf
[01:43] <plyp_werk> viking09: what does it say for "Mode:" in iwconfig?
[01:43] <plyp_werk> viking09: it should probably say "Managed"
[01:44] <klhrevolutionist> no way to disable "/etc/init.d/hdparm" ?
[01:44] <wirelessnoob> Sorry, plyp_werk, I should have been clearer - it's working fine through cable, just not wireless...both are on DHCP and set to find everything automatically.
[01:44] <plyp_werk> wirelessnoob: is the same router doing both wireless and wired?
[01:45] <liquiddoom> Riyonuk: Or, if you haven't modified your xorg.conf, you can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and it will ask you what resolutions you want to use
[01:45] <viking09> plyp_werk: Mode: Managed
[01:45] <sachac> Hi, all! Any chance someone here has gotten a Linksys WPC11 v3 wireless card to work with WPA encryption under Ubuntu? I'm doing a Google search on my own, but am dropping in just in case someone else has solved the same problem. =)
[01:45] <grout_> how can i download updates in my lamp server?
[01:45] <wirelessnoob> plyp_werk, yes, although I'm not trying to do both at the same time (!)
[01:45] <Riyonuk> alrighty, ill try that
[01:46] <plyp_werk> viking09: ok, so it sounds like the wireless part is set up ok, as long as those settings correspond to what you see when you scan
[01:46] <plyp_werk> viking09: maybe you have the wrong subnet in ifconfig
[01:47] <viking09> plyp_werk: afriad not, same subnet as ethernet connection. Sounds like wifinoob and I are in a similar boat.
[01:47] <liquiddoom> Riyonuk: If you run the dpkg-reconfigure command, it will make a backup of your current configuration which you can restore if it fails.
[01:48] <MrSprout> JosefK, nothing's working
[01:48] <MrSprout> D:
[01:48] <wirelessnoob> yeah, that too
[01:48] <sachac> Blast. It looks like I'm a bit out of luck wrt this WPC11v3 card... What's a nice wireless card these days?
[01:48] <Riyonuk> liquiddoom, I dont really want to screw up my ubuntu, I just got my stupid wireless dns working
[01:49] <liquiddoom> Riyonuk: Hmm. How about this. Run the command "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup"
[01:50] <Bipolar> I need help port forwarding via ssh. I'm trying to listen on a remote servers port, and forward to my local machine. however, I can only get it to listen on localhost of the remote server, not the outside facing interface. my command is: ssh -R 5500:localhost:5500 root@myremoteserver
[01:50] <Riyonuk> liquiddoom, ok I know that will make a backup, but how do I back it up if I mess something up? Wont my screen be all black >_>
[01:51] <plyp_werk> viking09: do you have ethernet going at the same time?
[01:51] <Theodor> how do I know the path of my mounted USB hdd ?
[01:51] <plyp_werk> viking09: maybe it's a routing problem
[01:51] <wirelessnoob> Hmm...in all seriousness...I'm still struggling to get the thing to work at all.  I can't touch the wireless card until I run wlassistant.  wlassistant can't actually connect for me, it fails every time, but when I do sudo dhclient ra0, it works
[01:51] <plyp_werk> viking09: "/sbin/route -n"
[01:51] <grout_> how can i download updates in my lamp server on the CLI?
[01:51] <liquiddoom> Riyonuk: If it all fails, press crtl-alt-F1 and type "sudo cp /etc/C11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:51] <Angelus> !update
[01:51] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:51] <Riyonuk> Like I can remmber that >_>
[01:52] <giokor070603> alguien habla espaol
[01:52] <Theodor> how do I know the path of my mounted USB hdd ?
[01:52] <liquiddoom> Riyonuk: lol... uh... hang on a minute
[01:52] <cafuego_> !es > giokor070603
[01:52] <giokor070603> que ondas necesito ayuda
[01:52] <erUSUL> !es
[01:52] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:52] <n2diy> !spanish
[01:52] <giokor070603> gracias
[01:53] <n2diy> giokor070603: nada
[01:53] <siv0x> Anyone familiar with Wine and Steam? - I got Steam installed, and Counter Strike: Source but, everything works perfect. accept i dont have sound, ingame.
[01:56] <n2diy> zzzzzzzzzz
[01:56] <sachac> Oy, this web-based Java IRC client won't let me scroll back. How broken.
[01:57] <Riyonuk> Whats the proper way to install flash? The "click here to install flash" never works for me..I did it once, flash 9 beta or something like that, but I forgot
[01:57] <liquiddoom> Riyonuk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash?highlight=%28flash%29
[01:58] <gregcha117> i cant seem to install kaffeine 0.8.3 from the source, everytime i try it says makefile not found, but i cd'ed to the right directory and everything so i dunno whats going wrong?
[01:58] <Riyonuk> Gosh, you guys know everything..
[01:58] <Riyonuk> Makes you wonder
[01:58] <n2diy> Riyonuk: no we don't but the open source model does.
[01:58] <liquiddoom> lol
[01:59] <siv0x> What would be the cabextract command in ubuntu?
[01:59] <liquiddoom> That's weird... the wiki page on flash 9 under i386 disappeared
[01:59] <Bipolar> I've even tried the reverse. I logged into the remote server, and tried to listen on a local port and forward to my client. It *still* only listens on localhost.
[01:59] <Theodor> how do I know the path of my mounted USB hdd ?
[02:00] <JosefK> liquiddoom, flash9 is in the repos now
[02:00] <binarydigit> siv0x: cabextract....
[02:00] <Riyonuk> liquiddoom, if I set resolution to something my monitor cant handle, will it revert to my previous? Or will I be left with a broken monitor
[02:00] <liquiddoom> JosefK: Awesome!
[02:00] <siv0x> siv0x@siv0x-desktop:~$ cabextract wine_gecko.cab
[02:00] <siv0x> bash: cabextract: command not found
[02:00] <siv0x> siv0x@siv0x-desktop:~$
[02:00] <binarydigit> install it
[02:00] <siv0x> binarydigit: what did i do wrong then?
[02:00] <binarydigit> not install it?
[02:00] <Panagant> psweetma: it worked but i had to create a desktop directory although there is an existing desktop  why is that
[02:00] <liquiddoom> Riyonuk: You said you used 1280x1024 under Windows fine, right?
[02:00] <siv0x> binarydigit: cabextract: command not found?
[02:01] <Riyonuk> Yup
[02:01] <binarydigit> siv0x: obviously you didnt install it =)
[02:01] <liquiddoom> Riyonuk: Then here's what to do.
[02:01] <Riyonuk> Thats what Im using now...
[02:01] <Riyonuk> although it doesnt feel like it
[02:01] <liquiddoom> Riyonuk: Oh? Look in your xorg.conf. Do you see "1280x1024" anywhere?
[02:01] <AikonIV> hey all I've got a problem with sound - am running Edgy on a Toshiba Satellite M105, Intel HDA soundcard. Sound worked fine for a while, then it all of a sudden stopped, however it still works through my _headphones_, just not the regular speakers. I got the latest alsa drivers/libs, and added a line for the card in the alsa-base file. Any ideas?
[02:01] <dev> is there a way for me to turn on sloppy mouse focus?  just installed ubuntu, cant find out where to enable this hehe
[02:02] <jomino> AikonIV, maybe you turned your internal speakers  off?
[02:02] <siv0x> binarydigit: k whats the command to install it, this is the howto i'm going by: http://www.winehq.com/pipermail/wine-users/2006-December/024103.html
[02:02] <n2diy> AikonIV: check your settings in alsamixer.
[02:02] <liquiddoom> dev: System - Preferences - Windows
[02:03] <dev> ack!  of course i looked everywhere but there.  thanks alot liquiddoom
[02:03] <AikonIV> have checked alsamixer, levels are all fine.   jomino, are you talking about a hardware switch? or something in software (what?)
[02:03] <Theodor> When I plug in my external hdd using USB port, what does it mount? What's the path ?
[02:03] <binarydigit> !apt
[02:03] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:03] <liquiddoom> Theodor: Check /media
[02:03] <binarydigit> siv0x: see that on apt
[02:03] <Panagant> i downlaoded Google Earth to my Desktop.  I tried to cd to Desktop but it was not there. i had to mkdir and move the downloaded file there to install. why did it not see the :original" desktop
[02:03] <helloyo> i just installed edgy with a new harddrive setup, i now get grub error 22 and can't boot, any help?
[02:04] <Riyonuk> Where is that?
[02:04] <jomino> AikonIV, software got that problem too turned my internal speakers off in the mixer-applet...
[02:04] <liquiddoom> Riyonuk: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:04] <Theodor> I can put that path to the /etc/apt/sources.list so I can use my external hdd for apt-get, yes ?
[02:05] <AikonIV> jomino, oh ok I see. Under the switches panel there's a checkbox for "headphones", I had to enable that for headphone sound, but even when it is off there is nothing through the speakers
[02:05] <seamus_ie> Theodor: just use dpkg -i
[02:05] <Riyonuk> liquiddoom, Yes I see 1280x1024 like 5 times
[02:05] <Theodor> what does dpkg has to do with apt-get ?
[02:05] <liquiddoom> Riyonuk: Aha. So you want a higher resolution?
[02:06] <seamus_ie> !apt
[02:06] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:06] <plyp_werk> Theodor: dpkg is the program that installs and removes packages.  apt-get is the one for downloading them, but the it will use dpkg in the background
[02:06] <jomino> AikonIV, sry then i got no idea
[02:06] <Theodor> plyp_werk, thanks.
[02:06] <plyp_werk> Theodor: so if you already have the packages downloaded, you can use dpkg -i package.deb to manually install
[02:06] <n2diy> helloyo: take a look at: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/55749-grub-error-22-a.html
[02:06] <AikonIV> jomino, ok thanks anyway
[02:07] <Theodor> The problem is that the packages are on my DVD, and the DVDroom is playing a bitch, so I want to transfer the hole contents to my external hdd so I can use them.
[02:07] <Riyonuk> liquiddoom, yup , if there was a way to find out what resolutions my monitor is capable of
[02:07] <Theodor> What's the best way to do it?
[02:07] <plyp_werk> Theodor: oh, so the DVD has a repository of all sorts of packages on it?
[02:07] <n2diy> Riyonuk: google for its specs.
[02:07] <Theodor> plyp_werk, it's the Ubuntu DVD.
[02:07] <Theodor> I need some basic packages.
[02:08] <plyp_werk> ahh, ok, then you could copy that to the hard drive and add a line for apt-get in sources.list
[02:08] <Riyonuk> I dont know what to google...
[02:08] <plyp_werk> the line would have file:// at the start instead of http://
[02:08] <Theodor> That's what I was saying ....
[02:08] <liquiddoom> Riyonuk: Well, I've never had a monitor break by running it at too high of a resolution...
[02:08] <plyp_werk> heh, sorry.  normally if it's just some packages by themselves then you can't use apt-get on them
[02:09] <plyp_werk> Theodor: but since you have a real repository with the right helper files, then apt-get will work
[02:09] <Theodor> I understand now that apt-get is for searching, dpkg is for installing.
[02:09] <liquiddoom> Riyonuk: I can't find any programs which will tell you what resolutions it can use
[02:09] <Lunch> !ipod
[02:09] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[02:09] <BHSPitMonkey> gah, I hate this
[02:09] <BHSPitMonkey> when I turn my master volume to zero, there's still sound playing
[02:09] <n2diy> liquiddoom: no the criticla spec is your h. sync.
[02:09] <Theodor> so the line will be: file://media/myexternalhdd ?
[02:09] <Theodor> should I put anything else ?
[02:09] <BHSPitMonkey> (it goes by my PCM volume)
[02:09] <Riyonuk> liquiddoom, well in windows when I set it to high, it says "Resolution out of range" and reverts to my previous resolution, but Im new to ubuntu and dont know what will happen
[02:09] <Storkme> why is ubuntu 6.10's splash screen so damn boring
[02:09] <BHSPitMonkey> increasing the master only increases it
[02:09] <plyp_werk> Theodor: ya, one second...let me look it up
[02:10] <binarydigit> Storkme: cause you touch yoruself at night
[02:10] <liquiddoom> n2diy: aha, thanks.
[02:10] <Riyonuk> liquiddoom, is there a way to find out what my monitor is so I can search for it? Its an old monitor, thats all I know :p
[02:10] <n2diy> liquiddoom: and your better off staying at the low end of it.
[02:10] <liquiddoom> Riyonuk: Check your xorg.conf
[02:10] <liquiddoom> Riyonuk: Under Section "Monitor"
[02:11] <Riyonuk> Monitor		"IBM E74"?
[02:11] <whitehawk1966> lol @ binary
[02:11] <liquiddoom> Riyonuk: Yep.
[02:11] <Riyonuk> Ok
[02:11] <n2diy> Riyonuk: I'm running an E74 here on my test box!
[02:11] <FliesLikeABrick> I need help from someone who knows grub inside and out.  I know general channel policy is to ask the question and wait for the answer, but I'm not going to bother explaining this except to someone who knows grub extremely well
[02:12] <Riyonuk> n2diy, :o is it white?
[02:12] <FliesLikeABrick> so if anyone wants to hear about my issue, let me know
[02:12] <n2diy> Riyonuk: nope it is black.
[02:12] <whitehawk1966> ive just eaten my grub
[02:12] <gregcha117> can someone help me out installing kaffeine 0.8.3, everytime i try to make install it nothing happens
[02:12] <binarydigit> FliesLikeABrick: #grub ?
[02:12] <Theodor> how can I open a file in the terminal in order to modify it?
[02:12] <Riyonuk> n2diy, well does it have 4 buttons on the bottom, the one to the far right being purple and the power button on the right hand side?
[02:12] <FliesLikeABrick> binarydigit dead channel
[02:12] <plyp_werk> Theodor: ok, you see the other entries in sources.list that start with "deb http://"?
[02:12] <bruenig> gregcha117, you have installed build-essential right?
[02:13] <Theodor> yeah plyp_werk.
[02:13] <plyp_werk> Theodor: yours should look like those, except with "file" instead of "http"
[02:13] <binarydigit> FliesLikeABrick: then you should either ask the question or just wait twiddling your thumbs
[02:13] <Theodor> plyp_werk, thanks man. I will try it now.
[02:13] <abram> vi
[02:13] <abram> right?
[02:13] <n2diy> Riyonuk: no purple button, but four buttons and a power button.
[02:13] <plyp_werk> so like "deb file:///home/foo/debian testing main" or something
[02:13] <Theodor> plyp_werk, how can I open the file from the terminal in order to change it ?
[02:13] <bruenig> it would probably be file:///home/foo/debian ./
[02:14] <Riyonuk> n2diy, I pretty much assume we have the same monitor, can you see how high the resolution goes :p
[02:14] <Hoag> Hey. Can anyone recommend any good audio conversion software? Eg .oggs from CDs into mp3s?
[02:14] <w3ccv> Theodor, is it a text file - then edit it with your favoprite editor.
[02:14] <Derek> I boot and after it goes through the loading screen with the bar, my monitor goes blank
[02:14] <Derek> can someone help me figure out what is wrong?
[02:14] <n2diy> Riyonuk: yep
[02:14] <Theodor> w3ccv, I don't have a favorite editor .. totally new ;p
[02:14] <bruenig> Hoag, soundconverter
[02:14] <bruenig> !info soundconverter
[02:14] <ubotu> soundconverter: convert sound files to other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 300 kB
[02:14] <whitehawk1966> maybe you SHutting down Derek?
[02:14] <Hoag> Thanks a lot :)
[02:14] <gregcha117> bruenig: yeah ive installed other programs this way
[02:15] <Theodor> is there like a very small command where I insert a line to a text ?
[02:15] <Derek> I'm trying to boot from the live cd before I install, and it just goes through a load screen and instead of booting up, the screen just goes black
[02:15] <w3ccv> Theodor, I guess  you're stuck using gedit
[02:15] <abram> type "vi"
[02:15] <Derek> and it doesn't turn back on
[02:15] <FliesLikeABrick> Theodor try the command "nano /path/to/file"
[02:15] <whitehawk1966> Linux drivers are tough on Video cards - try _ CTRL+ALT++  to cycle through  Derek
[02:15] <w3ccv> vi's not for new u sers - it'll move him back to windoze
[02:15] <abram> oh
[02:15] <abram> sorry
[02:15] <abram> :-/
[02:16] <Derek> whitehawk, can you explain that a  little bit more?  I'm not experienced at all with linux
[02:16] <FliesLikeABrick> nano is probably the best terminal editor for linux newcomers
[02:16] <whitehawk1966> search on the help pages to make sure your Hardware is supported
[02:16] <Elriff_Darkheart> anyone here have teamspeak ?
[02:16] <Derek> alright
[02:16] <FliesLikeABrick> depends why you ask Elriff_Darkheart
[02:16] <Derek> let me check really quick and I'll come back
[02:17] <Derek> I can't imagine it wouldn't be though, it's just an ATI
[02:17] <Elriff_Darkheart> i am trying to set up the client and can't get any sound from it
[02:17] <Storkme> why is ubuntu 6.10's splash screen so damn boring
[02:17] <Elriff_Darkheart> or input to it
[02:17] <n2diy> Riyonuk: here is a page with the specs:http://www5.pc.ibm.com/nz/products.nsf/$wwwPartNumLookup/_6332PCS?OpenDocument
[02:17] <Theodor> Guys, do you know where the packages are located on the DVD. I don't want to copy the hole DVD to my external, it will take time ...
[02:17] <n2diy> Riyonuk: here is a page with the specs:  http://www5.pc.ibm.com/nz/products.nsf/$wwwPartNumLookup/_6332PCS?OpenDocument
[02:17] <plyp_werk> Theodor: you only want certain specific packages?
[02:18] <whitehawk1966> Maybe you see yourself -Storkme
[02:18] <binarydigit> Storkme: i told you already, cause you touch yourself at night
[02:18] <Theodor> plyp_werk, I need like 4 .. I was trying to install Alien earlier and I couldn't as I was missing some packages.
[02:18] <abram> i try to set my wifi card to active and when i go back into network it is not active
[02:18] <drivera90> So what app is there for p2p?
[02:19] <band-aid> Hi guys, who can help me get wireless working on my new laptop?
[02:19] <liquiddoom> drivera90: gtk-gnutella
[02:19] <Riyonuk> How can I make it so when I drag a file from one folder to another, I dont get a permission denied error? I hate using mv
[02:19] <Riyonuk> thanks
[02:19] <FliesLikeABrick> band-aid what brand of laptop?
[02:19] <rjg_> Hello
[02:19] <liquiddoom> Riyonuk
[02:19] <Riyonuk> T_T aww just 1280 thats lame
[02:19] <Elriff_Darkheart> FliesLikeABrick, I use aoss TeamSpeak to start it... as some guides said... but i still don't get any sound to or from it.
[02:19] <liquiddoom> Riyonuk: sudo nautilus
[02:19] <band-aid> FliesLikeABrick: Compal HEL-80
[02:19] <Angelus> !wine
[02:19] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:19] <Derek> I'm having a bit of trouble finding the hardware supported, does anyone have a link where I can check to see if my graphics card is supported?
[02:20] <Music_Shuffle> Riyonuk, use...sudo with it?
[02:20] <Riyonuk> thanks
[02:20] <FliesLikeABrick> liquiddoom you mean gksudo ?
[02:20] <Riyonuk> I hate that I cant remmber how to spell nautilus
[02:20] <Music_Shuffle> !sudo
[02:20] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:20] <BHSPitMonkey> PhilKC, ping
[02:20] <Music_Shuffle> Works just fine.
[02:20] <liquiddoom> FliesLikeABrick: Does the same thing... one just pops up a prompt
[02:20] <rjg_> uh does someone know how to add a link to a folder into the Applications Menu?
[02:20] <liquiddoom> lol
[02:20] <Theodor> okay, I think I have messed up my sources.list file ;p
[02:20] <plyp_werk> Theodor: you could just hunt through the directories for the specific .debs
[02:20] <Angelus> !nokia
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nokia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <band-aid> FliesLikeABrick: it uses the Intel PRO/Wireless 3845abg
[02:20] <plyp_werk> Theodor: they should be in a "pool" directory somewhere, then sorted alphabetically
[02:20] <BHSPitMonkey> PhilKC, you there, or was that a scripted response
[02:20] <rjg_> Theodor: I have a untouched one, want a copy??
[02:21] <PhilKC> BHSPitMonkey, I am.
[02:21] <FliesLikeABrick> liquiddoom sudo often doesn't work with graphical applications and gksudo must be used instead
[02:21] <Theodor> I think I made a copy somewhere ... *went to hunt it down*
[02:21] <fmachado> Theodor, "dpkg-reconfigure apt" :)
[02:21] <Hoag> Why is the mp3 option shaded out in sound converter?
[02:21] <Thiagovfar> Could anyone here help me on installing Ubuntu in a (how could I say?) past century's machine? (forgive-me if I make some mistakes in the words. I am not a person who knows a lot of English...)
[02:21] <Derek> Anyone have a link to see hardware compatibility?
[02:21] <rjg_> Hoag: you don't have the codecs installed
[02:21] <bruenig> Hoag, you have to install mp3 capabilities
[02:21] <band-aid> Hoag: I think it has something to do with MP3 using proprietary codecs
[02:21] <bruenig> !quicktime | Hoag
[02:21] <ubotu> Hoag: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:21] <Angelus> !mobile
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <n2diy> Thiagovfar: how muck ram does the box have?
[02:22] <bruenig> It will work, I converted an ogg to mp3 on it the other day
[02:22] <Angelus> does anyone know how to connect a mobile?
[02:22] <Hoag> Alright, cheers :)
[02:22] <binarydigit> Thiagovfar: did you burn the install cd and try the install?
[02:22] <band-aid> Can anyone help me set up my wireless?
[02:22] <Theodor> thanks for the command, done.
[02:22] <BHSPitMonkey> PhilKC, a few people and I were wondering what the protocol is for recovering control of a channel the owner has abandoned.  Feel free to redirect this conversation elsewhere; you're the only apparently active staffer, and you're here.
[02:22] <Thiagovfar> 128
[02:22] <band-aid> !wireless
[02:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:23] <n2diy> Thiagovfar: I don't think Ubuntu will play with 128 megs.
[02:23] <bruenig> Thiagovfar, go with xubuntu
[02:23] <PhilKC> BHSPitMonkey, Depends on the channel. Single hash (#) channels will need a GCF, ## channels can be done with a GCF or by putting across a valid reason :)
[02:23] <BHSPitMonkey> Thiagovfar, have a look at xubuntu. It's a lighter variant of Ubuntu, which runs well on older hardware.
[02:24] <Riyonuk> Thiagovfar, a crappy machine like mine? :p
[02:24] <n2diy> bruenig: what is the minimum ram req. for Xbuntu?
[02:24] <Angelus> does anyone know how to connect a mobile (cell) phone through a wireless connection?
[02:24] <bruenig> 64 mb I believe
[02:24] <bruenig> it is either that or 128
[02:24] <n2diy> bruenig: thanks.
[02:25] <BHSPitMonkey> 64
[02:25] <abram> wifi isn't working does this mean i have to install network manager?
[02:25] <BHSPitMonkey> I'm pretty sure, anyway. I've run it on that.
[02:25] <cafuego_> Angelus: Ran ok on 64Mb last time I used it.
[02:25] <Derek> does anyone have a suggestion on how to get around the black screen problem when I try to launch ubuntu from the live cd?
[02:25] <BHSPitMonkey> PhilKC, it's a single-hasher.
[02:25] <cafuego_> with enough swap, 32Mb should do too (will just be slow)
[02:25] <n2diy> bruenig: any idea how large the Xubuntu dl is?
[02:25] <FliesLikeABrick> Derek how much RAM do you have?
[02:25] <bruenig> n2diy, 700 MB
[02:25] <fcrick> hey just installed ubuntu for the first time
[02:25] <Derek> 2 gigs
[02:26] <PhilKC> BHSPitMonkey, Might be best to explain this is query, as the channel seems fairly busy :)
[02:26] <BHSPitMonkey> PhilKC, would you mind stopping by the channel?
[02:26] <fcrick> so far im very impressed
[02:26] <n2diy> bruenig: ouch
[02:26] <bruenig> n2diy, well it is the same as any other, fill up that cd
[02:26] <bruenig> !offtopic
[02:26] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:26] <Thiagovfar> I'm using 6.06 LTS, it runs (with a small help of a swap file). But it just do not pass the third step of the Install Setup
[02:26] <Thiagovfar> ok
[02:26] <Thiagovfar> I'll try it
[02:26] <fcrick> hey so right now im running at 800x600, and i have this nice nvidia card id like to be able to use - what resources should i be looking at? thanks
[02:27] <roflarn> ello, can anyone reccomend a good torrentclient? not azureus, preferably something similar to uTorrent :>
[02:27] <bruenig> !nvidia | fcrick
[02:27] <ubotu> fcrick: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:27] <Derek> any ideas?
[02:27] <n2diy> bruenig: I'm on dial up, that is why I use Ship It to get my CDs, and I don't think Xubuntu is an option there.
[02:27] <bruenig> only take a couple of weeks
[02:27] <fcrick> ty
[02:27] <Storkme> why is ubuntu 6.10's splash screen so damn boring? the old splash screens told you what it was doing at the time.. this one is uninteresting and makes it seem slower :p
[02:28] <bruenig> Storkme, go to /boot/grub/menu.lst and delete the quiet option by the entry
[02:28] <Derek> I imagine my graphics card is supported, I have a Radeon X1900
[02:28] <bruenig> or I suppose I should say "open" not "go to"
[02:29] <Angelus> n2diy I'm on dial up at the moment and I'm downloading the update to 6.10
[02:29] <bruenig> there is a difference in updating and downloading a new version of it
[02:29] <bruenig> a 500+ MB difference
[02:29] <_TsU_> what's it?
[02:30] <bruenig> generally
[02:30] <_TsU_> Oo
[02:30] <Angelus> I'm doing it through the software manager
[02:30] <n2diy> Angelus: how big is the dl? My ISP only lets me stay online for 8 hours, and then they shut me down, it is a PITA.
[02:30] <bruenig> n2diy, what is the deal with your ISP, do you live in a real remote area or something
[02:31] <Derek> does anyone have any suggestions on what could be wrong with my computer that's causing it to go black screen after ubuntu loads?
[02:31] <Angelus> n2diy, I don't know but it's been downloading now for about 10 minutes and it's up to "Modifying the software channels"
[02:31] <_TsU_> Derek, you have an LCD monitor?
[02:31] <Derek> yes
[02:31] <_TsU_> what graphic card you have?
[02:31] <Derek> it's an Acer 20" widescreen
[02:31] <Derek> radeon x1900
[02:32] <n2diy> bruenig: Sorta, I'm in Carbon County, Pa., USA.
[02:32] <_TsU_> load ubuntu in recovery mode
[02:32] <_TsU_> install the ati driver
[02:32] <bruenig> no dsl there or is it really high or something
[02:32] <_TsU_> and then do : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:32] <bpon1> full saddam execution
[02:32] <bpon1> screeshot: http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8680/screenshotna3.png
[02:32] <bpon1> youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtxr1ViaC9A
[02:32] <Derek> I tried to load it in safe graphics mode, but the problem is there is no way I know of to install it wtihout using the live cd
[02:32] <bruenig> hmmm
[02:32] <Thiagovfar> Hey, but, why does Ubuntu Live Cd runs in my computer and it does not install?
[02:32] <Panagant> when i type in su it asks for a password.  The password is not the same as sudo.  is there a default password
[02:33] <band-aid> can anyone help me get my wireless set up?
[02:33] <Angelus> I'm in Australia and where I live they don't have cable. If you're lucky enough (waiting 2 years now) they might give you ADSL
[02:33] <n2diy> bruenig: Yes, DSL is available, but only from one source, and it is a little pricey. I have a new neighbor, and we are thinking about sharing a DSL connection.
[02:33] <Derek> I've only installed linux once before, and I did it on a computer where there were no problems, with the live cd
[02:33] <TiGZ> http://www.foodlink.com.au/Dumpbox/uselinux.jpg =P
[02:33] <ozzloy> thank you guys too for your help!
[02:33] <Panagant> when i type in su it asks for a password.  The password is not the same as sudo.  is there a default password
[02:33] <FliesLikeABrick> Derek are you trying to install or just use the livecd?
[02:33] <_TsU_> Derek, after installation: 1st-recovery mode (second option in Grub menu), 2nd-install ati driver, 3rd- dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:33] <imbecile> i was wondering if anyone has seen a theme similar to this.. I have been looking for hours to non avail  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=33516
[02:34] <Derek> I'm trying to install it
[02:34] <magic_ninja> are there any good mmorpg or fps that are any good native to linux
[02:34] <band-aid> Panagant: what account are you trying to switch to
[02:34] <FliesLikeABrick> Panagant su wants the root password whereas sudo uses the user password.  sudo -i is the same as su but uses the user password
[02:34] <imbecile> its a really basic clear theme
[02:34] <Derek> when I install it, does it load linux's boot loader?  Because that's really what I'm after
[02:34] <frank__> I have tossed my nVidia card in the garbage, and xorg is refusing to load the mesa glx for my radeon card now.  How do I switch my opengl back to mesa in Ubuntu?
[02:34] <bruenig> n2diy, luckily where I am at dsl is ten dollars more than dialup so it is not that big a deal
[02:34] <FliesLikeABrick> Derek try using the alternate installer CD instead of the desktop CD, it installs without a live session
[02:34] <harrisony1> !mmorpg
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mmorpg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <Derek> alright
[02:34] <n2diy> bruenig: I had a neighbor that shared a satellite connection with me, that was really cool, but he moved, and took his toys with him.
[02:34] <Derek> now here's an interesting question
[02:34] <band-aid> Can anyone help me get my wirless working
[02:34] <Derek> currently my computer has 2 os's on it... xp and vista
[02:35] <Derek> I insatlled vista first, so I am using vista's boot loader
[02:35] <magic_ninja> !games
[02:35] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[02:35] <Derek> if I install ubuntu over my vista partition, will linux';s boot loader install over and recognize my xp partition?
[02:35] <Panagant> so i dont need to use su command sudo is fine?
[02:35] <wheels3572> How do I go about finding out if I have any KDE libraries?
[02:35] <bruenig> Derek, yes it should
[02:35] <lnknpk04> !pastebin
[02:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:35] <_TsU_> it will
[02:35] <Panagant> trying to laern here guys
[02:35] <Derek> alright
[02:35] <Derek> so your'e telling me I need a different cd?
[02:35] <_TsU_> no,
[02:35] <harrisony1> wheels3572: as a test try sudo apt-get install amarok and see see if awhole lot of kde things come up if yes then you dont
[02:36] <_TsU_> all is alright wit your cd!
[02:36] <Derek> someone said to try to install without using the live cd
[02:36] <harrisony1> !kdelibs
[02:36] <roflarn> anything similar to utorrent for linux?
[02:36] <ubotu> kdelibs: core libraries from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 88 kB
[02:36] <Derek> but i don't know if I could see to install anyway
[02:36] <Derek> install the ATI driver, I mean
[02:36] <wheels3572> harrisony1, believe it or not thats' what I was asking for was because of Amarok ty :)
[02:36] <harrisony1> wheels3572: if you dont have itll install
[02:36] <Angelus> n2diy, it's saying that I need to download 692M for the next stage, I think I'll leave it for now! lol
[02:36] <bruenig> roflarn, utorrent is pretty similar
[02:36] <jrsims> hey, in xubuntu, is there a way to enable multiple file selection on the desktop via dragging a selection box around them?
[02:37] <frank__> How do I get my opengl back to mesa after getting rid of my nVidia card?  My xorg log says this:  (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[02:37] <_TsU_> Derek, you're on the live cd?
[02:37] <jman_> Does anybody know how to install Windows XP without erasing the boot loader from the MBR?
[02:37] <wheels3572> I KNOW I dont have amarok but not sure if I have the libs to go wtih it for MP3 playing
[02:37] <bruenig> jrsims, pretty sure there isn't
[02:37] <n2diy> Angelus: ah, can you resume the DL later?
[02:37] <m12> when you uninstall software with Synaptic, i've noticed that if you later look to reinstall, it doesn't have to redownload the files... so that means all of these files are being left on my computer?  where are they, so that I can get rid of them?
[02:37] <Angelus> no you have to do it in one shot
[02:37] <Derek> no, right now I'm on xp, I can't see anything when I boot the live cd
[02:37] <jrsims> bruenig: too bad. that is deffinately needed.
[02:37] <Tomcat_> jman_: No way to do that.
[02:37] <fcrick> if I have Edgy Eft do i have the latest release?
[02:37] <lnknpk04> I'm having problems getting my wireless to connect to my home wifi.  Its a problem with the WPA and the Ubuntu wiki said to copy this ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39529/ ) and show it to someone who knows what they are talking about :)
[02:37] <n2diy> m12: do a search for *.deb
[02:37] <imbecile> whats the off topic channel again?
[02:38] <Tomcat_> jman_: At least I'm pretty sure ;)
[02:38] <bruenig> jrsims, just don't use the desktop. I don't have anything on the desktop. Thunar will do it
[02:38] <lnknpk04> I'd appreciate any help
[02:38] <Panagant> good night,  you all are very smart people
[02:38] <n2diy> !offtopic
[02:38] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:38] <wheels3572> harrisony1, 0 upgraded 10 newly installed and asking for almost 50mb to download so I would say I did NOT have the libs I needed for KDE lol
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[02:38] <imbecile> i have a question im pretty sure is offtopic
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[02:38] <_TsU_> Derek, put your livecd, boot, before selecting the boot option (on the boot menu) do F4, select the graphic mode you want
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[02:38] <bruenig> !ops
[02:38] <jrsims> bruenig: yeah, but this pc is for my GF. She's used to windows.
[02:38] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[02:38] <Tomcat_> !ops
[02:38] <bruenig> jrsims, open up thunar and then go to the desktop with that
[02:38] <jman_> Tomcat_ can't you use *ahem *ahem certain proprietary software for it?
[02:38] <bruenig> then you can do it
[02:38] <Derek> I tried that also, I just set it to a safe res since mine wasn't on there
[02:38] <Derek> it didn't have my native resolution available
[02:38] <Derek> but it still went all black
[02:39] <tritium> bruenig: what's going on?
[02:39] <Seveas> lay down the alarm, spammer is gone
[02:39] <bruenig> tritium, he is gone now
[02:39] <Hobbsee> gah
[02:39] <Tomcat_> jman_: You mean PartitionMagic or that stuff? Windows installer will still install its own bootloader. ;)
[02:39] <lnknpk04> HymnToLife: you still around to offer your world class assistance?
[02:39] <bruenig> tritium, Sprockytowner
[02:39] <Seveas> Hobbsee, nicks are easy to change and he's on dhcp
[02:39] <band-aid> can anyone help me with my wireless
[02:39] <LoRez> klined
[02:39] <Seveas> useless ban
[02:39] <jrsims> bruenig: yeah, I'll probably do that instead. just trying to stay away from gnome and its fat ass.
[02:39] <_TsU_> Derek, use the resolution that is shown on your montinor manual
[02:39] <Hobbsee> Seveas: yeah, got the wrong button.
[02:39] <Derek> TsU, it's not available
[02:39] <Derek> I have a widescreen, my native res wasn't on the list
[02:39] <wheels3572> harrisony1, Do I need Helix Player, Movie Player, Rhythmbox Music Player, Xfmedia, XMMS Media Player
[02:39] <Angelus> !wine
[02:40] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:40] <jman_> what about something like Acronis Disk Director Suite or something like that, Tomcat_ ?
[02:40] <tritium> Hobbsee: :)
[02:40] <Seveas> Hobbsee, the big pointy stick is there -------------->>
[02:40] <Tomcat_> jman_: I don't know about that... but as long as you're running the Windows installer, the MBR will be overwritten.
[02:40] <jman_> uggh
[02:40] <__mikem> Seveas, even if he's on dhcp, he will only pull a new ip address if he resets his modem, or it happens to be the day where it automaticly changes
[02:40] <jrsims> bruenig: do you know if xubuntu ships the xfce compositor that allows stuff like drop shadows?
[02:41] <_TsU_> Derek, did you select the correct frequency?
[02:41] <Seveas> __mikem, spammers do that
[02:41] <bruenig> jrsims, doubt it
[02:41] <bruenig> jrsims, but don't know
[02:41] <Hobbsee> Seveas: my bing pointy stick..you leave it alone...
[02:41] <bruenig> jrsims, maybe #xubuntu will know
[02:41] <Derek> I'm not sure that I did, I just saw 8 16 and 32, I assumed they were colors, not frequiences
[02:41] <lnknpk04> I'm having problems getting my wireless to connect to my home wifi.  Its a problem with the WPA and the Ubuntu wiki said to copy this ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39529/ ) and show it to someone who knows what they are talking about :)
[02:41] <jrsims> bruenig: k
[02:42] <_TsU_> Derek, frequencies are important,
[02:42] <Derek> I didn't see the ability to change hte frequency, but my monitor's native frequency is 60
[02:42] <Derek> I imagine that's the default?
[02:42] <_TsU_> Derek, i'm on 70
[02:42] <_TsU_> it's not the default
[02:42] <band-aid> can anyone help me with my wireless connection
[02:42] <HymnToLife> lnknpk04, sorry, I have little to no experience with WPA
[02:42] <_TsU_> Derek, you'll see the frequency after an '@'
[02:43] <lnknpk04> no problem
[02:43] <lnknpk04> this little laptop just wants to be difficult tonight :)
[02:43] <Derek> alright, all I remember seeing is the 8 16 or 32, but I"m most likely wrong
[02:43] <imbecile> i was wondering if anyone has seen a theme similar to this.. I have been looking for hours to non avail  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=33516
[02:44] <_TsU_> Derek, try again :)
[02:44] <Derek> will do
[02:44] <_TsU_> try to find the correct resolution/frequency
[02:44] <Derek> well my res is like 1680 x 1050
[02:44] <bruenig> imbecile, looks like you are going to need beryl/xgl/compiz for that
[02:44] <n2diy> Derek: those numbers aren't for horz. sync., probably colors?
[02:44] <dan2_> does ubuntu have a java plugin working on amd64?
[02:44] <Derek> yeah, I figured they were colors, but I didn't see hz
[02:45] <viking09> plyp_werk: Sure sound like a routing problem, eth
[02:45] <wheels3572> Where is the master volume in Xubuntu?
[02:45] <imbecile> bruenig, this dang thing has been driving me nuts
[02:45] <Angelus> thanks for all your help guys
[02:45] <plyp_werk> viking09: oh, did you figure it out?
[02:45] <Angelus> talk soon
[02:45] <bruenig> wheels3572, right click on the panel and add to it
[02:45] <bruenig> wheels3572, and then get the volume applet
[02:45] <lnknpk04> I'm having problems getting my wireless to connect to my home wifi.  Its a problem with the WPA and the Ubuntu wiki said to copy this ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39529/ ) and show it to someone who can help
[02:46] <Derek> so you suggest that I try booting with the cd again, and try to set the hz correctly?
[02:46] <Derek> what should I do about the fact that my monitor's native res isn't in the list?
[02:46] <HymnToLife> Derek, install proper drivers for yor videocard
[02:47] <Derek> how can I do that before I install the operating system??
[02:47] <pppoe_dude> Derek, what kind of monitor is it?
[02:47] <Derek> it's a 20" widescreen
[02:47] <n2diy> Derek: V sync would anywhere from 50-120 hz, and H sync. would be up in the kilohertz, you should google for you monitor's specs. And stay at the low end of of the H sync range.
[02:47] <pppoe_dude> Derek, what kind of video card do you have
[02:47] <Derek> radeon x1900
[02:47] <HymnToLife> Derek, who cares about the res while installing ?
[02:47] <Derek> my screen goes black
[02:48] <Derek> and I can't see anything at all after the live cd boots
[02:48] <pppoe_dude> Derek, you might wanna try messing around with modeline, also try 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[02:48] <HymnToLife> use an Alternate :)
[02:48] <_TsU_> ah, yes, alternate cd :)
[02:48] <viking09> plyp_werk: yes, appears to be a routing problem! The wireless card is not indicated
[02:48] <band-aid> I am having problems getting my Intel PRO/Wireless 3945AGB to connect to my wireless router. I am using a fresh install of edgy
[02:48] <Derek> alternate cd?
[02:48] <HymnToLife> !alternate
[02:48] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[02:49] <band-aid>  I am having problems getting my Intel PRO/Wireless 3945AGB to connect to my wireless router. I am using a fresh install of edgy
[02:49] <HymnToLife> and which doesn't work 20% of the time, at least.
[02:49] <Derek> I'm not sure I could manage to do a command line install.. heh
[02:49] <HymnToLife> !ask| band-aid
[02:49] <ubotu> band-aid: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:49] <band-aid> uuhhhhh
[02:49] <lnknpk04> I'm having problems getting my wireless to connect to my home wifi.  Its a problem with the WPA and the Ubuntu wiki said to copy this ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39529/ ) and show it to someone who can help
[02:49] <wheels3572> exit
[02:49] <band-aid> How do I associate to an Access Point in Ubuntu
[02:50] <HymnToLife> lnknpk04, maybe try posting on the !forums
[02:50] <lnknpk04> !forums
[02:50] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[02:50] <Derek> so what is the consensus on what I should do, try to change the hz rating pre-boot?
[02:50] <lnknpk04> gracias
[02:50] <_TsU_> Derek, alternate is the best solution
[02:50] <HymnToLife> Derek, the Live CD has a "Safe graphics mode", have you tried it ?
[02:50] <Riyonuk> band-aid
[02:50] <Derek> I did try the safe graphics mode
[02:50] <Derek> same thing happened
[02:50] <n2diy> Derek:  don't do anything until you know what your monitor's specs are.
[02:50] <HymnToLife> though anyway, I always recommend the Alternate
[02:50] <band-aid> yes
[02:51] <Derek> what specs do you want?
[02:51] <band-aid> Riyonuk: yes?
[02:51] <Derek> I know native res and refresh rate
[02:51] <Derek> 1680x1050 @60
[02:51] <n2diy> Derek:  I don't want them, but you need the H. and V. sync frequencies.
[02:51] <pppoe_dude> band-aid, is your card detected by edgy?
[02:52] <HymnToLife> pppoe_dude, yes, he has an ipw3945
[02:52] <Derek> 1680x1050 isn't available in that list though
[02:52] <band-aid> pppoe_dude: I think so, it shows up as eth1 when I do iwconfig
[02:52] <pppoe_dude> band-aid, have you tried using NetworkManager?
[02:52] <band-aid> pppoe_dude: no
[02:52] <HymnToLife> band-aid, sudo iwconfig eth1 essid YOUR_ESSID key YOUR_KEY
[02:52] <HymnToLife> then dhclient to configure the IF using dhcp
[02:52] <band-aid> pppoe_dude: at least I don't think I have. Is it installed by default
[02:53] <pppoe_dude> band-aid, if you want a graphical wasy way to connect to wireless networks, try sudo apt-get install nm-applet-gnome
[02:53] <pppoe_dude> band-aid, then reboot
[02:53] <plyp_werk> HymnToLife: might need to set the channel too
[02:53] <n2diy> wasy?
[02:53] <HymnToLife> plyp_werk, I never needed to
[02:54] <pppoe_dude> band-aid, sorry the package is actually network-manager-gnome
[02:54] <enric> is it ok to install compiz if i have beryl installed?
[02:54] <band-aid> pppoe_dude: I have no way to access the internet on that computer
[02:54] <Derek> if I install with the alternate cd, why wouldn't it be black when I boot that up also?
[02:54] <pppoe_dude> band-aid, it should be on the cd iirc
[02:54] <bruenig> enric, #ubuntu-xgl
[02:54] <Igor> !nvidia
[02:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:54] <enric> k thanks bruenig
[02:54] <band-aid> pppoe_dude: what does iirc mean?
[02:54] <pppoe_dude> perhaps not tho...
[02:54] <plyp_werk> If I Recall Correctly
[02:55] <HymnToLife> band-aid, If I Remember Correctly
[02:55] <band-aid> oh lol
[02:55] <plyp_werk> =iirc
[02:55] <thread> any freenx users?
[02:55] <pppoe_dude> !info network-manager-gnome
[02:55] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.3-2ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 245 kB, installed size 1608 kB
[02:55] <pppoe_dude> band-aid, try installing it from CD (just put in the cd)
[02:55] <Igor> so if i installed the generic kernel, am i gonna be able to get the nvidia drivers to work?
[02:56] <drivera90> so guys
[02:56] <drivera90> come to think of it, i never set up a root password. what is the password to root?
[02:56] <pppoe_dude> band-aid, also, sudo network-admin provides basic wireless connectivity options
[02:56] <pppoe_dude> like... wep
[02:56] <bruenig> drivera90, there is no root, you use sudo and then provide your user password
[02:57] <bruenig> !sudo | drivera90
[02:57] <ubotu> drivera90: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:57] <n2diy> drivera90: there is no root account
[02:57] <drivera90> oh.
[02:57] <CUBeR64> hi everyone
[02:57] <_TsU_> drivera90 you can setup a new password for the root acount
[02:58] <_TsU_> but you dont need that as you have the sudo
[02:58] <CUBeR64> can anyone point me to the system font directory
[02:58] <Igor> *cry* i tried to enable my nvidia card and now X is dead :(
[02:58] <siv0x> Does anyone know how to get gecko for wine?
[02:58] <Igor> and i accidently overwrote the xorg.conf cause i ran the thing twice
[02:58] <Igor> the backup that is
[02:58] <_TsU_> Igor, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:58] <HymnToLife> CUBeR64, /usr/share/fonts
[02:59] <Igor> thanks
[02:59] <CUBeR64> thank you
[02:59] <CUBeR64> :)
[03:00] <Nontitle> Igor: do you use dapper or edgy? my Nvidia card doesn't work under dapper but it works under edgy for some reason
[03:00] <_TsU_> for me it works on both
[03:00] <Nontitle> actually, i got it working, but it was very complicated, as i had to reinstall it each time i wanted to run x
[03:01] <imbecile> can someone point me to a beryl wiki?
[03:01] <_TsU_> Nontitle, i had that problem too, on dapper :)
[03:01] <Edgy-Paladine> does anyone know if Edgy LiveCD supports LVM installations?
[03:02] <_TsU_> imbecile, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Main_Page
[03:02] <Edgy-Paladine> I can't find any LVM options in the partition manager during install
[03:02] <HymnToLife> nope it doesn't
[03:02] <imbecile> _TsU_ thanks
[03:02] <HymnToLife> !alternate | Edgy-Paladine
[03:02] <ubotu> Edgy-Paladine: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[03:02] <Nontitle> i think it was along the lines of installing the legacy version through apt-get and installing the non-legacy version from nvidia.com, but using one so old that it had the same version number
[03:02] <Edgy-Paladine> man I don't have alternate
[03:02] <Edgy-Paladine> only server
[03:03] <Edgy-Paladine> and I just hosed my dapper partition
[03:03] <HymnToLife> Server will do, too
[03:03] <_TsU_> imbecile, if you have Edgy, read the AiGLX tutorial, i had problems to install XGL
[03:03] <Edgy-Paladine> yeah I have server, but that means manually installing all the desktop stuff and aiglx
[03:04] <band-aid> pppoe_dude: ok I did the iwconfig command
[03:04] <imbecile> _TsU_, I'm using dapper drake
[03:04] <band-aid> pppoe_dude: but the dhclient failed
[03:04] <_TsU_> Aiglx is already installed, as i had nothing to do more than installing beryl :)
[03:04] <HymnToLife> Edgy-Paladine, just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, you'll be at the same point than with a DEsktop CD
[03:05] <_TsU_> imbecile, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/AiGLX
[03:05] <wheels3572> To anyone and everyone that helped me out with my sound and getting everything to work I wanna say ty.
[03:05] <Nontitle> how do you install AiGLX in dapper? i would probably be able to find the answer, but i'm just too lazy right now
[03:06] <imbecile> _TsU_, where do i add lines for step 2?
[03:06] <_TsU_> Nontitle: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/AiGLX , there is "How to install AiGLX" on it
[03:06] <Nontitle> cool, thanks
[03:06] <wireless_blues> n2diy, you around?
[03:06] <_TsU_> imbecile, repositories
[03:06] <n2diy> wireless_blues: roger
[03:07] <_TsU_> imbecile, /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:07] <wireless_blues> n2diy, I am from earlier, I got my card light blinking and seeing the broadcast signal
[03:07] <imbecile> Nontitle, looks like were working through the sme thing
[03:07] <n2diy> wireless_blues: cool, how'd ya do that?
[03:07] <wireless_blues> n2diy, but it shows it with no signal, and will not connect
[03:07] <wheels3572> Is it safe to remove excess media players I dont need?
[03:07] <Nontitle> cool
[03:07] <nolimitsoya> wheels3572, yes
[03:08] <imbecile> _TsU_, okay now how about step 3
[03:08] <Derek> Hi, I"m back.  I tried looking for a way to change my refresh rate, but it was as I thought - there is no visible optino to change it when you hit F4
[03:08] <Nontitle> wheels3572: i believe its safe
[03:08] <wheels3572> nolimitsoya, ty I have a ton of them
[03:08] <nolimitsoya> wheels3572, its safe to remove anything you dont need :)
[03:08] <_TsU_> imbecile on your shell :)
[03:08] <imbecile> _TsU_, do i stay in repo?
[03:08] <wireless_blues> n2diy, dont really know, but for one thing I set the boot up string to include acpi=off and blacklisted ipv6
[03:08] <band-aid> how do I associate to a wireless access point
[03:08] <_TsU_> imbecile, no
[03:08] <imbecile> ahh thats been my problem
[03:08] <hassan2a> hello
[03:08] <n2diy> wireless_blues: ok, we need to set up your channel, and essid, or something like that, I think the folks on here now know how to do that.
[03:08] <regeya> hooray!  finally nipped my root-on-lvm problem.  used yaird to build an initrd.  now, however, I don't seem to be able to mount /boot. :-/
[03:08] <regeya> (that could be a problem, methinks.)
[03:09] <__mikem> How much do you want to bet that SADDAMHUSSEIN is a troll?
[03:09] <Derek> 
[03:09] <regeya> lol
[03:09] <wheels3572> nolimitsoya, what's the odds that some programs are linked to others?
[03:09] <wireless_blues> n2diy, using the network applet in ununtu I have setup the sid to my routers, but it will not connect
[03:09] <fcrick> so last time i tried to install my nvidia drivers, it told me the module wouldn load
[03:09] <regeya> buzz off, [SADDAMHUSSEIN] , you're dead.
[03:09] <wireless_blues> n2diy, so how do I setup the channel as well?
[03:09] <fcrick> any idea how i track down what i did wrong from that?
[03:09] <nolimitsoya> wheels3572, very low :) but then again, depends wont be free untill no program wants them any more
[03:09] <regeya> lol
[03:09] <__mikem> lmao, that was funny
[03:10] <n2diy> Who can help wireless_blues setup his channel, and essid, or whatever?
[03:10] <wheels3572> nolimitsoya, ok.  gonna try it ty.  What's the syntax apt-get remove <file name>?
[03:10] <tritium> __mikem: nope
[03:10] <nolimitsoya> wheels3572, apt-get remove <package>
[03:10] <Derek> does anyone have another suggestion about what I could do to stop getting my monitor displaying all black when I boot with the ubuntu live cd?
[03:10] <wireless_blues> is there a good reference site?
[03:10] <wheels3572> nolimitsoya, like I thought ty
[03:11] <dylan_> I cannot connect to my wireless network via my Free Software compatible Orinoco Silver wifi card.  How can I do this?  Is there a special package I must install?
[03:11] <_TsU_> Derek, the alternate CD is the only solution for you problem :)
[03:11] <band-aid> n2diy: I think its iwconfig <interface> channel <channel> essid <essid> etc but take whatever I say with a grain of salt because I'm still trying to get my wireless to work
[03:11] <n2diy> wireless_blues: man, I hope they didn't all log off? Anyway, what does iwconfig tell you?
[03:11] <fcrick> hmm well installed another restricted-modules thingy...i guess il try it again
[03:11] <nolimitsoya> dylan_, have you read the wifi docs?
[03:11] <n2diy> wireless_blues: yes, your on the right track.
[03:12] <Derek> TsU, if I download the alternate cd, will you help me through the process of using it?
[03:12] <dylan_> nolimitsoya, not yet.  i was hoping this was alleviatable via apt-get
[03:12] <nolimitsoya> !wifi | dylan_
[03:12] <ubotu> dylan_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:12] <dylan_> nolimitsoya, thanks.
[03:12] <wireless_blues> no wireless point associated
[03:12] <_TsU_> Derek, there are already tutorials for that :)
[03:12] <Derek> oh, great
[03:12] <Derek> I just need to find this cd link, I haven't been able to find it yet
[03:12] <nolimitsoya> Derek, if you have any questions during install, feel free to pop in :)
[03:13] <wheels3572> nolimitsoya, ok Im leaving them all there lol I cant find the correct name for the package lol
[03:13] <_TsU_> Derek, on the ubuntu download page
[03:13] <nolimitsoya> wheels3572, apt-cache search <string> <- for searching package names
[03:14] <wheels3572> nolimitsoya, sweet ty
[03:14] <n2diy> band-aid: tnx
[03:14] <nolimitsoya> wheels3572, 'man apt' is a usefull command as well :)
[03:14] <jorgp> in the /etc/group while what is supposed to have the id of 11?
[03:14] <n2diy> wireless_blues: see what band-aid sent me at 21:10?
[03:14] <jorgp> while/file
[03:15] <wheels3572> ty nolimitsoya :)
[03:15] <fcrick> yay i think it worked
[03:15] <band-aid> n2diy: did you get it to work???!
[03:15] <fcrick> how can i confirm for sure that my nvidia drivers are really working?
[03:15] <band-aid> n2diy: I still haven't gotten it to work lol
[03:15] <n2diy> band-aid: It isn't my problem, I'm trying to get wireless_blues up and running.
[03:15] <HymnToLife> jorgp, there's none here - I'm on Debian though
[03:16] <band-aid> n2diy: did they get it work work?
[03:16] <nolimitsoya> _TsU_, means we are in the same timezone then :)
[03:16] <jorgp> HymnToLife, well, when I install via debootstrap, a chroot always complains about /etc/group id:11 missing
[03:16] <SilentDis> hello :)
[03:16] <_TsU_> nolimitsoya, hehe :D
[03:16] <wireless_blues> n2diy,  I just tried that and it says set failed on device wlan0: operation not permited
[03:16] <wireless_blues> oops
[03:16] <wireless_blues> hang on one sec
[03:16] <wireless_blues> do with sudo
[03:16] <n2diy> band-aid: I don't know?
[03:17] <SilentDis> ubuntu + beryl + subscription to digitalblasphemy.com = best eyecandy desktop in the world.  period.  lol
[03:17] <n2diy> wireless_blues: try sudo before the command?
[03:17] <band-aid> I love digital blasphemy's art
[03:17] <_TsU_> SilentDis, add gDesklets to that :)
[03:17] <Jdban> Hi, I'm a linux newbie, and I am trying to get my ATI driver installed.  I enabled the file to be run, but now when I run it, it says that "You need to run this installer as the super-user."
[03:17] <Jdban> I'm unsure of how to do this when the file is on my desktop.
[03:18] <HymnToLife> Jdban, add sudo before your command
[03:18] <band-aid> jdban: navigate to your desktop in the terminal
[03:18] <n2diy> band-aid: follow along with wireless_blues and I, we are cooking on it now.
[03:18] <band-aid> n2diy: will do
[03:18] <nolimitsoya> !root | Jdban
[03:18] <ubotu> Jdban: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:18] <SilentDis> _TsU_, gdesklets?
[03:18] <SilentDis> !info gdesklets
[03:18] <Jdban> Thanks guys
[03:18] <ubotu> gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 466 kB, installed size 2452 kB
[03:18] <rcrook> woohoo..... looks like I have fixed the webcam problem... ABout time too.
[03:18] <_TsU_> SilentDis, http://www.gdesklets.org/
[03:19] <hiall123456> i have problem when starting amarok says an error: "Warning: kbuildsycoca is unable to register with DCOP.  kbuildsycoca running...   KSycoca: Error: No database available!"  any clues on how to fix this? (this prevents Amarok from starting up)
[03:19] <_TsU_> SilentDis, it's really great if you wanna tune your desktop :)
[03:19] <dtg> !ru
[03:19] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[03:19] <mike> hjow do i get C  libraries and system calls and corsponding man pages
[03:19] <wireless_blues> n2diy,  wow, its quite indepth
[03:20] <SilentDis> _TsU_, checking it out now.  pardon my slowness.  dialup is the suck :P
[03:20] <mt> :)
[03:20] <n2diy> wireless_blues: and I haven't played with it, so you are breaking new ground for me.
[03:20] <_TsU_> SilentDis, no problem :)
[03:21] <n2diy> wireless_blues: But I think the trick is getting your channel and essid to match your AP.
[03:21] <QwertyM> Here's a bit long problem... I have a PIV 3.0 GHz with H-Threading, I also installed Nvidia beta drivers and am running beryl comfortably, now I see that my kernel is i386, but my processor must support i686 too, so should I make a shift to it? What all do I need to change if I install this 686 kernel?
[03:21] <mike> i installed build-essential and i still cant find a man page for strtok() and bind()
[03:21] <Music_Shuffle> QwertyM, you could, but you're fine really.
[03:21] <HymnToLife> mike, manpages are not C handbooks...
[03:21] <nolimitsoya> QwertyM, you should use the -generic kernel above any other
[03:21] <nolimitsoya> !generic | QwertyM
[03:21] <ubotu> QwertyM: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[03:22] <SilentDis> QwertyM, you're fine as it is... but if you insist, and you're running edgy, it means compiling a kernel from source yourself.
[03:22] <_TsU_> QwertyM , i have the same thing, and i'm using 386
[03:22] <QwertyM> Oh ok
[03:22] <hiall123456> i have problem when starting amarok says an error: "Warning: kbuildsycoca is unable to register with DCOP.  kbuildsycoca running...   KSycoca: Error: No database available!"  any clues on how to fix this? (this prevents Amarok from starting up)
[03:22] <QwertyM> Thanks then SilentDis, _TsU_ , Music_Shuffle
[03:22] <nolimitsoya> SilentDis, _TsU_, QwertyM, no it doesnt. the generic kernel _is_ a 686 kernel, or k7, or smp, or what ever it needs to be. use it
[03:23] <Music_Shuffle> GL :)
[03:23] <QwertyM> nolimitsoya, I see generic under grub boot
[03:23] <zer0> can i install ubuntu and not affect my xp installation?
[03:23] <bruenig> zer0, yes
[03:23] <nolimitsoya> zer0, yes
[03:23] <QwertyM> nolimitsoya, if I make that default, no problems right?
[03:23] <n2diy> wireless_blues: ?
[03:23] <bruenig> !dualboot | zer0
[03:23] <ubotu> zer0: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[03:23] <nolimitsoya> QwertyM, right
[03:23] <band-aid> wireless_blues n2diy: I think I may be onto something
[03:23] <_TsU_> nolimitsoy, when you install the graphic card it upgrad your knernel to the 386 :)
[03:23] <zer0> or should i create a partition prior to installing?
[03:23] <band-aid> gimme 1 sec
[03:23] <_TsU_> driver*
[03:23] <QwertyM> thanks nolimitsoya
[03:23] <bruenig> zer0, you create partitions during the install
[03:24] <zer0> mmkay
[03:24] <zer0> bruenig
[03:24] <wireless_blues> n2diy, so maybe iwconfig wlan0 essid "apline" channel 11
[03:24] <nolimitsoya> _TsU_, thats a dependency issue. the depends for the nvidia-glx package is fouled up. its a downgrade, and not upgrade
[03:24] <SilentDis> _TsU_, i'm pulling gdesklets now.  not like it's gonna dent my storage space rofl
[03:24] <zer0> do u know how to install drivers without internet?
[03:24] <nolimitsoya> _TsU_, using the generic restricted modules work just fine
[03:24] <Riyonuk> I disabled everything ipv6 related and firefox still takes forever to loads site, how can I fix this?
[03:24] <n2diy> band-aid: , cool, though wireless_blues is no back.
[03:24] <_TsU_> nolimitsoya , ok :)
[03:24] <HymnToLife> zer0, yes, but which drivers ?
[03:24] <band-aid> whats the command to restart the network
[03:24] <_TsU_> SilentDis, :D
[03:24] <zer0> can i talk with someone PM, drivers for modem
[03:25] <n2diy> wireless_blues: what channel is your AP using?
[03:25] <band-aid> I know its some filepath
[03:25] <zer0> i have them on installation disk,
[03:25] <_TsU_> SilentDis, you'll like them :)
[03:25] <wireless_blues> n2diy, channel 11
[03:25] <zer0> but when i try to follow the instructions, i get an error
[03:25] <wireless_blues> brb gotta pee
[03:25] <HymnToLife> zer0, linux drivers ?
[03:25] <zer0> yes
[03:25] <HymnToLife> what is the error ?
[03:25] <Siph0n> hey, how can i tell what version of glib i have? or if i even have it at all... i dont see it in my synaptic package manager...
[03:25] <n2diy> wireless_blues: ok, I'm not sure alpine is a valid essid, but go for it?
[03:25] <n2diy> !essid
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about essid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <band-aid> n2diy: I think its valid
[03:25] <zer0> well i dont remember, it was the last time i tried to use ubuntu
[03:26] <SilentDis> !swiftfox | Riyonuk - just a suggestion, it helps a little for me.
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <zer0> ill be back i suppose after I try it out again
[03:26] <n2diy> band-aid: roger that.
[03:26] <hiall123456> i have problem when starting amarok says an error: "Warning: kbuildsycoca is unable to register with DCOP.  kbuildsycoca running...   KSycoca: Error: No database available!"  any clues on how to fix this? (this prevents Amarok from starting up)
[03:26] <SilentDis> huh...  ubotu needs info, must feed ubotu.
[03:26] <n2diy> band-aid: we'll find out shortly.
[03:26] <HymnToLife> !repeat | hiall123456
[03:26] <ubotu> hiall123456: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:26] <zer0> if someone is interested in helping me i would rather talk in msn, its easier
[03:26] <Who_> Should 'user a' be able start metacity to replace the metacity of 'user b'? I would think not, but it works here!
[03:27] <frank_b> does anyone know how can I change the menu font in xmms?
[03:27] <regeya> you're still dead, SADDAMHUSSEIN, piss off.
[03:27] <__mikem> It took me ages to learn to wait for help in here. By the time I learned it, I suddenly found that I didn't need help that much anymore
[03:27] <bruenig> !info libc6
[03:27] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.4-1ubuntu12 (edgy), package size 4032 kB, installed size 9988 kB
[03:27] <wireless_blues> apline is the sid of my router
[03:27] <hiall123456> thanks
[03:28] <regeya> you can't kill the dead
[03:28] <wireless_blues> n2diy, sorry, apline is the sid of my router
[03:28] <__mikem> regeya, don't feed the trolls
[03:28] <regeya> nor the undead, but that's a tale for another day.
[03:28] <regeya> __mikem: good advice, always.
[03:28] <regeya> __mikem: better advice: kickban the morons.
[03:28] <n2diy> wireless_blues: ok, I'm not sure that is the same as an essid?
[03:28] <wireless_blues> n2diy, the name of my access point, the one I connect to is
[03:29] <wireless_blues> "apline"
[03:29] <band-aid> n2diy:  essid == extended SSID
[03:29] <band-aid> n2diy: unless I'm completely wrong their the same thing, please feel free to correct me #ubuntu
[03:29] <n2diy> band-aid: so how to you determine it?
[03:29] <bareto> hi
[03:29] <wireless_blues> n2diy, I have no other names assocatied with anything except the workgroup my win pc is assoicated with
[03:29] <quik_> hey folks
[03:29] <_TsU_> !info eclipse
[03:29] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[03:29] <bareto> mm
[03:29] <bareto> list
[03:30] <quik_> how can I check what I have installed from packages?
[03:30] <band-aid> n2diy: iwlist scan
[03:30] <n2diy> wireless_blues: ok, can you ping outside of your router?
[03:30] <band-aid> n2diy: that will give you all the info you need about nearby access points
[03:30] <hiall123456> any kde chanels around here
[03:30] <wireless_blues> n2diy, I will try one sec
[03:30] <n2diy> wireless_blues: see what band-aid is telling me?
[03:30] <band-aid> n2diy: I can't even ping my router yet
[03:31] <band-aid> I feel like I have the gun and the ammo but can't seem to make it shoot
[03:31] <n2diy> band-aid: can you ping your card?
[03:31] <bruenig> hiall123456, #kubuntu maybe
[03:31] <plyp_werk> "sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning" to scan
[03:31] <hiall123456> thanks wise man
[03:31] <wireless_blues> n2diy, yes
[03:31] <SilentDis> quik_, in Synaptic Package Manager, you can click "Status" at the bottom, and choose the "installed" filter from the list.  easy graphical view of it :)
[03:31] <wireless_blues> n2diy, still cannot ping google.com but I also know via iwlist that my essid is "apline" and that it is cell 01
[03:31] <n2diy> wireless_blues: your pinging external IPs?
[03:31] <Derek> I"m having a hard time finding the alternative CD, are you guys sure that it's on the ubuntu downloads page?
[03:32] <HymnToLife> Derek, definitely
[03:32] <quik_> SilentDis: in console..
[03:32] <wireless_blues> n2diy, cannot ping wlan0 it had to connect to the router to be assigned an ip
[03:33] <Riyonuk> Like Ill clik a link and it will say Connecting for like 3min...then Waiting/Transfering constantly then finally it loads
[03:33] <n2diy> wireless_blues: your pinging external IPs?
[03:33] <Riyonuk> I wait for hours and hours and nothing happens :p
[03:33] <band-aid> n2diy: you can ping a card? like... ping eth1 ??
[03:33] <wireless_blues> HOLY SHIT I AM CONNECTED!
[03:33] <_TsU_> whois derek
[03:33] <SilentDis> quik_, i THINK the tool you're looking for is called 'adept'.  can't remember exactly unfortunatly :(
[03:33] <regeya> wireless_blues: language, but CONGRATULATIONS!
[03:33] <PriceChild> !language | wireless_blues
[03:33] <ubotu> wireless_blues: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:33] <HymnToLife> and !caps, too
[03:33] <n2diy> band-aid, I would think so, if it shows up in ifconfig, you should be able to ping it, no?
[03:34] <Jdban> I'm a linux newbie, and right now, I am starting work with the terminal.  I can't seem to figure out how to run files.
[03:34] <Derek> how hard is an alternative cd install?
[03:34] <band-aid> n2diy: when I do ping eth1 it says unknown hist
[03:34] <n2diy> wireless_blues: OMG, congradulations!
[03:34] <bruenig> Jdban, what do you mean run files?
[03:34] <band-aid> host
[03:34] <band-aid> wireless_blues: what did you do?
[03:35] <Jdban> I am trying to run an installer file for a driver
[03:35] <wireless_blues> n2diy, I have full signal and lights are working, but I cannot get online
[03:35] <n2diy> band-aid: what connections are listed with ifconfig.
[03:35] <bruenig> Jdban, just type the path to it
[03:35] <bruenig> Jdban, or if you change it the directory, cd directory, just do ./ whateverthefileis
[03:35] <wireless_blues> sorry channel for the language
[03:35] <_TsU_> Deker, ftp://mirror.d-jacobs.com/ubuntu/edgy/
[03:35] <band-aid> n2diy: eth0, eth1, lo
[03:35] <wireless_blues> been working on this for 2 days, and I AM VERY CLOSE
[03:36] <n2diy> wireless_blues: ok, now I think we are dealing with port forwarding through the router?
[03:36] <Derek> great, thanks TsU
[03:36] <Siph0n> is there a way for the changes i made in xorg.conf to show up right now, instead of rebooting?
[03:36] <_TsU_> no problem
[03:36] <wireless_blues> band-aid, I setup essid to "apline" my routers broadcased sid, and it worked
[03:36] <wireless_blues> n2diy, checking router now for attached devieced
[03:36] <Jdban> Thank you bruenig
[03:36] <Derek> which iso do I grab, the i386 one?
[03:36] <n2diy> band-aid: ok, your wireless connection should wlan0, unless it is a wireless router.
[03:37] <_TsU_> Derek , what cpu do u have?
[03:37] <Derek> intel core 2 duo
[03:37] <band-aid> n2diy: mine shows up as eth1 lol that might be a problem
[03:37] <band-aid> n2diy: its a Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[03:37] <n2diy> band-aid: is a router, cabled to your box?
[03:37] <SilentDis> Siph0n, Yes, restart gdm.  ctrl-alt-backspace :)
[03:38] <maul555> hello, i am completly new to linux, and am having some trouble playing different media files...  mainly video that require special codecs....
[03:38] <bruenig> !quicktime | maul555
[03:38] <ubotu> maul555: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:38] <maul555> how can i get some codecs or a player installed that can handle my media?
[03:38] <_TsU_> Derek, 386
[03:38] <band-aid> n2diy: no this is what my laptop's wireless card shows up as
[03:38] <HymnToLife> maul555, what kind of media is it ?
[03:38] <_TsU_> Derek, i'm not sure it supports the 686
[03:38] <pooya> why does xterm overwrites the current line?
[03:38] <maul555> ubotu, thanks, ill read it
[03:38] <n2diy> band-aid: ok, then it should be wlanX.
[03:38] <wireless_blues> band-aid, what card are you using?
[03:38] <maul555> avi's, mpegs, ect..
[03:39] <wireless_blues> band-aid, are you using ndiswrapper?
[03:39] <HymnToLife> al right, see the link !ubotu gave you :)
[03:39] <band-aid> wireless_blues: whats that
[03:39] <Derek> sounds good, let me download it
[03:39] <HymnToLife> yay
[03:39] <n2diy> band-aid: wireless_blues, I gotta go, good luck.
[03:39] <HymnToLife> !netsplit
[03:39] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[03:39] <evil__> How can I get the e2fsprogs-devel package, its not in apt-get...?
[03:39] <bruenig> that was not a netsplit
[03:39] <Derek> I';ll be back once its' downloaded
[03:40] <SilentDis> thank you Seveas :)
[03:40] <_TsU_> Derek, good luck
[03:40] <HymnToLife> looked pretty much like one
[03:40] <hiall123456> happy hollidays
[03:40] <bruenig> you didn't see the malformed DCC notice
[03:40] <__mikem> I did
[03:40] <band-aid> wireless_blues: sorry about that
[03:40] <wireless_blues> band-aid, ndiswrapper allows you to use windows drivers in linux
[03:40] <wireless_blues> band-aid, not worried
[03:40] <SilentDis> that was some moron dropping malformed DCC stuff on a bunch of people.
[03:40] <pooya> when I write a long command in terminal, it gets overwritten
[03:40] <maul555> HymnToLife: avi's, mpeg's, ect...  divx... the usual, on windows, i just downloaded a codec pack and was set.... but here, i can play my music and thats about it
[03:41] <rcrook> Hi all, Can someone give me some pointer on kernel modules and where they are loaded?
[03:41] <imbecile> okay i have a question that im sure will get a few people irritated.. Ho do i compile metasploit?
[03:41] <wireless_blues> n2diy, I can tell you dont know much about this stuff, but I still cannot ping router, but it says its connected, but router does not see laptop
[03:41] <HymnToLife> maul555, see the link !ubotu gave you - it has it all
[03:41] <plyp_werk> rcrook: "lsmod" will list the kernel modules that are currently loaded
[03:41] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here know of the inner workings of sudo? Is it possible to lock certain files for a user?
[03:41] <maul555> k, ill go study it and come back when i get stumped..   thx
[03:41] <SilentDis> bbiab.  got a download going, and I need to use the washroom.  i'll check in later once gdesklets is done downloading :)
[03:41] <glyn> if I download a debian package, how do I install it?
[03:42] <_TsU_> imbecile, just look at the website where you downloaded it :)
[03:42] <maul555> lol @ sadam
[03:42] <bruenig> glyn, sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[03:42] <HymnToLife> !dpkg | glyn
[03:42] <ubotu> glyn: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[03:42] <glyn> thanks
[03:42] <band-aid> wireless_blues: ok I am installing ndiswrapper off of the CD
[03:42] <Derek> what is this alternative install like?  I should probably try to find a tutorial to walk me through it
[03:42] <band-aid> wireless_blues: where do I get the drivers? off the CD that came with my laptop?
[03:43] <alexander> sup all
[03:43] <alexander> im trying to set up an EFI boot... i need two partitions for boot? the normal unix partition and a FAT32 partition for ELILO? ive set up lvm partitions with /, /home, and /boot... ive also made a primary fat32 partition for elilo, is this correct?
[03:43] <rcrook> plyp_werk: I know... I need to know how they are loaded. I have a new module for my webcam but the older modules is loading as well. and I am trying to figure out how to prevent the older module from loading
[03:43] <imbecile> _TsU_ , i dont see the instructions
[03:43] <HymnToLife> rcrook, just blacklist them
[03:44] <_TsU_> imbecile, and you wont find them here :)
[03:44] <rcrook> ahh... in module.d/blacklist?
[03:44] <chris86wm> does anyone know how to make a keyboard shortcut that will open a program?
[03:44] <HymnToLife> in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist - add a line like this :               blacklist foo
[03:44] <imbecile> :/
[03:44] <HymnToLife> replace foo with the name of the module of course
[03:44] <rcrook> thanks HymnToLife :)
[03:45] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here know of the inner workings of sudo? Is it possible to lock certain files for a user?
[03:45] <glyn> Why can't I install libqt3-mt on Hoary?
[03:46] <bruenig> hoary, gees
[03:46] <Derek> hey, here's an interesting question.  I have my monitor connected with a DVI plug, does it need to be VGA?
[03:46] <_TsU_> pianoboy3333, you can change the rights for that user so he cant use sudo at all
[03:46] <bruenig> pianoboy3333, you can set it to have permissions so that that user can't access it
[03:46] <_TsU_> lol, bruenig
[03:46] <DigitalNinja> how do I use cdrecord in ubuntu? I'm trying to burn a CD from my server. No X
[03:47] <wireless_blues> band-aid, I am sorry about the delay
[03:47] <HymnToLife> digip1mp, man cdrecord :)
[03:47] <bruenig> man cdrecord
[03:47] <HymnToLife> pwn3d
[03:47] <Derek> TsU, do you know the answer to that?  Whether or not it's ok to use a DVI connection for my monitor
[03:47] <smax> hi
[03:47] <wireless_blues> band-aid, yes off the of wireless card cd, which maybe on your cd that came with the laptop, or you may need to find them online
[03:47] <pianoboy3333> bruenig: _TsU_: so if I create another user X, then with my sudo password, I couldn't edit those files made by user X?
[03:48] <smax> i installed build-essential and still i have no man pages for C library calls
[03:48] <wireless_blues> band-aid, atleast find out who the chipset is from and what it is and get those drivers
[03:48] <_TsU_> Derek, it has nothing to do with the OS :)
[03:48] <HymnToLife> pianoboy3333, sudo runs stuff as root, and root can edit anything
[03:48] <band-aid> wireless_blues: ok, I have all that
[03:48] <bruenig> pianoboy3333, now you still could, with sudo
[03:48] <TheDebugger> smax: You have to add the manpages yourself
[03:48] <smax> how ?
[03:48] <wireless_blues> band-aid, look at http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net at the wiki list of cards for more info
[03:48] <bruenig> no*
[03:48] <smax> is there a tutorial for this?
[03:48] <TheDebugger> smax: In synaptics...
[03:48] <band-aid> wireless_blues: I just did ndiswrapper -i w39n51.inf
[03:48] <bruenig> !info glib-doc
[03:48] <ubotu> Package glib-doc does not exist in any distro I know
[03:49] <pianoboy3333> bruenig: HymnToLife: There's my issue
[03:49] <bruenig> !info glibc-doc
[03:49] <ubotu> glibc-doc: GNU C Library: Documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4-1ubuntu12 (edgy), package size 1641 kB, installed size 1980 kB
[03:49] <TheDebugger> smax: Look for the packages starting with manpage
[03:49] <Derek> alright, good, heh
[03:49] <bruenig> pianoboy3333, well there is nothing you are going to be able to do to make it where the super user can't access it
[03:49] <pianoboy3333> bruenig: that's why I'm wondering if I can limit files to be only edited/not able to be edited by a certain user
[03:49] <HymnToLife> pianoboy3333, if I got it correcly, you want to have a user who can do everything BUT edit given files ?
[03:49] <Derek> does anyone here know how well wine works?
[03:49] <pianoboy3333> HymnToLife: correct
[03:49] <HymnToLife> hmm
[03:49] <bruenig> pianoboy3333, they can only edit it with sudo, and if they don't know the sudo password, then they can't do it
[03:50] <dtg> wine is good
[03:50] <bruenig> pianoboy3333, so just don't tell them your password, and then they can't mess with it
[03:50] <HymnToLife> I know how to have a user being able to run only specific commands
[03:50] <HymnToLife> but not the other way around
[03:50] <pianoboy3333> dtg: yes it is :)
[03:50] <_TsU_> !info pydev
[03:50] <ubotu> Package pydev does not exist in any distro I know
[03:50] <pianoboy3333> bruenig: what do you mean?
[03:51] <_TsU_> anyone used pydev with eclipse here?
[03:51] <jorgp> anyone have any group id 11?
[03:51] <bruenig> pianoboy3333, ok let me get this straight, you are the main user, you have setup an account, and therefore your user's password is also the sudo password, You are trying to setup another user, user X and you want to make sure user X can't edit your stuff.
[03:51] <JAyRULE> whats a good ftp for ubuntu with a good gui
[03:51] <bruenig> or have I mixed that up
[03:52] <bruenig> !info gftp
[03:52] <ubotu> gftp: X/GTK+ FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.18-14ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 76 kB
[03:52] <bruenig> if you mean client
[03:52] <JAyRULE> sorry, whats a good ftp server for ubuntu with a good gui
[03:52] <smax> TheDebugger: thanx
[03:52] <rcrook> woohoo thank plyp_werk and HymnToLife .. worked a charm:)
[03:54] <pianoboy3333> bruenig: kinda, my situation is I'm the main user, and I have setup an account, so my password is obv.the sudo password, and I want to setup another user, who cannot edit config files x, y, and z in like /etc/myconfigfiles/
[03:55] <bruenig> pianoboy3333, right he won't be able to edit those, the only way to edit them is with sudo and he doesn't know the sudo password unless you tell him and so it is fine
[03:56] <pianoboy3333> bruenig: but.... anyone can use sudo, sudo works with your user password...
[03:56] <pianoboy3333> bruenig: you're thinking of su, which uses a root password
[03:56] <_TsU_> not all
[03:56] <bruenig> pianoboy3333, it works with the password of the main user
[03:56] <bruenig> pianoboy3333, not the accounts you setup afterwards
[03:57] <pianoboy3333> bruenig: but this other user also wants to be able install packages and such
[03:57] <bruenig> well it is one or the other
[03:57] <HymnToLife> then configure sudo so apt-get is the only comand the user can run as root
[03:57] <pianoboy3333> bruenig: that's my problem....
[03:57] <bruenig> well you can do that, go through each command that you want to be able to run without sudo
[03:57] <bruenig> but that seems bothersome
[03:58] <pianoboy3333> bruenig: it is
[03:58] <pianoboy3333> uggg
[03:58] <band-aid> can anyone help me with ndiswrapper
[03:58] <bruenig> pianoboy3333, why would he try to write over your stuff
[03:59] <pianoboy3333> band-aid: I actually can, but have you read the wiki first?
[03:59] <bruenig> pianoboy3333, I mean if you give him access to apt-get, he could just apt-get remove everything you have
[03:59] <pianoboy3333> band-aid: I haven't used it in a while also
[03:59] <band-aid> pianoboy3333: yes, I have read the installation guide. I appears to be installed correctyl but my card still shows up as eth1
[04:00] <HymnToLife> bruenig, then make it so he only can apt-get install :p
[04:00] <kimo> How do I re-scan the SCSI bus? I've just powered on my SCSI scanner and I'd like to know if there is a way I can get it recognised without having to reboot.
[04:00] <band-aid> pianoboy3333: when I do ndiswrapper -l it says that the driver is installed
[04:00] <bruenig> what a beating, just buy him his own computer and be done with it
[04:00] <pianoboy3333> band-aid: h, can't help you with that
[04:00] <band-aid> :(
[04:00] <band-aid> how much is ubuntu technical support lol
[04:01] <kd7swh> have you posted to the forum?
[04:01] <pianoboy3333> bruenig: a friend of mine, wants to install parental controls for his son, so he was wondering if he could just lock the config files, because his son wants to still do system crap, like installing/removing packages and such, but that's true, he could just remove the packages
[04:01] <kd7swh> band aid. try posting on the forum
[04:01] <_TsU_> good night all, time to sleep (4am :D )
[04:02] <kd7swh> 4am? where are you france?
[04:02] <band-aid> kd7swh: I have posted under wireless/networking topic title: I haven't the slightest what I'm doing. I haven't gotten any replies yet
[04:02] <_TsU_> kd7swh, Algeria
[04:03] <HymnToLife> oh damn, 4am already
[04:03] <kd7swh> _TsU_ wow, its 8 pm here
[04:03] <_TsU_zZz> lol,
[04:03] <Arafangion> Hello, can I boot the live CD on a 64-bit AMD Dell system without any legacy components, such as USB, etc, and using SATA?
[04:03] <TheDebugger> It's 10pm :D
[04:04] <wiseelben> when I install rubybook, where is it placed?
[04:04] <Maheanuu> anyone here using mdadm to setup and manage raid arrays?
[04:04] <Arafangion> (I attempted to boot the LTS version, but it kept complaining about ATA1 issues)
[04:04] <wiseelben> nvm.. got it, it's /usr/share/docs
[04:05] <Maheanuu> I want to use it on Sata II drives in a raid5 array
[04:05] <pianoboy3333> bruenig: any other ideas?
[04:05] <Maheanuu> Ubuntu uses rpm's doesn't it???
[04:05] <band-aid> I am about to pitch my laptop through the window
[04:05] <bruenig> pianoboy3333, have the day threaten his son and tell him that if he screws anything thing up, he will beat the crap out of him, and then give him the sudo password
[04:05] <bruenig> dad*
[04:06] <kd7swh> this week seems to be a departure from last week, everything I have compiled has just worked lately without a hitch. is there something wrong with my system? LOL
[04:06] <LameBMX> whats a good app to watch for registry changes in windows? ... i gotta install quickbooks in windows for my company ... but im generally sticking with ubuntu ... so i thought i could run it in wine ... too late in the year to try and learn new software
[04:06] <pianoboy3333> bruenig: great....
[04:06] <pianoboy3333> Maheanuu: NO
[04:06] <LameBMX> band-aid, remember to throw it like a frisbee for maximum distance
[04:07] <Arafangion> LameBMX: I would suggest you go for VMware.
[04:07] <pianoboy3333> Maheanuu: ubuntu is based on debian, which uses the debian package system (dpkg -> .deb files)
[04:07] <band-aid> lol its less than a week old
[04:07] <band-aid> wireless is making me want to rip my own legs off
[04:07] <pianoboy3333> band-aid: lol
[04:07] <LameBMX> Arafangion, you think quickbooks would require that much of windows?
[04:08] <LameBMX> i figured id just need to export the reg keys it has and then add them to the registry in wine
[04:08] <kd7swh> LamBMX does it run under wine?
[04:08] <Arafangion> LameBMX: If you have any sort of volume license or something, you might as well just run the dang thing - and VMware is actually not that slow.
[04:08] <kd7swh> lol
[04:08] <pianoboy3333> band-aid: you try asking in #ndiswrapper, or the ndiswrapper mailing list?
[04:08] <Maheanuu> I'm not finding any downloadable  .deb files, is there a translator available to use to possibly change a tarball or a rpm and install it??
[04:08] <band-aid> theres a #ndiswrapper...
[04:08] <pianoboy3333> :)
[04:08] <justin_> How can I see what kernel is installed on my machine (CPU wise) --- because everytime I try to install Ardour it says that my system is not supported (i386) --- even though I am on a PIV.. so I want to make sure the I686 kernel was installed and not the i386 version of it..
[04:08] <Derek> has anyone here ever done an alternative install?
[04:08] <SpitzFire> i could use some help with linux
[04:08] <LameBMX> kd7swh, i dont know .. thats what i was gonna try ... i know it wont install it in wine .. but that dont mean i cant copy the windows install over
[04:08] <dm> Chmod 777 to enable basic user to access and change files correct?
[04:09] <SpitzFire> i,m new
[04:09] <nolimitsoya> !helpme | SpitzFire
[04:09] <ubotu> SpitzFire: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:09] <LameBMX> Derek, i kinda tried with my fake raid .. but it didnt go to well
[04:09] <pianoboy3333> Derek: me, I prefer it
[04:09] <SpitzFire> no shizzal
[04:09] <justin_> dm that's full access ;D
[04:09] <Derek> pianoboy, how hard is it?  I've never really used linux before
[04:09] <justin_> read write and execute access be careful what you change to 777 ;)
[04:09] <SpitzFire> free is me
[04:09] <LameBMX> dm 777 gives all execute axx .. 666 would be rx
[04:09] <SpitzFire> >)
[04:09] <LameBMX> rw ...
[04:09] <Arafangion> So, RE my 64-bit issue, any suggestions?
[04:09] <LameBMX> man chmod for better
[04:09] <kyncani> justin_: uname -a  and /proc/cpuinfo
[04:10] <kd7swh> LameBMX I have used a program called recode to transfer windows registry enteries into wine that may help you get going
[04:10] <justin_> kyncani, That does not help, I know what sort of CPU I have...
[04:10] <SpitzFire> .....>)
[04:10] <justin_> I want to know what Kernel was installed.
[04:10] <SpitzFire> .....>)
[04:10] <kyncani> justin_: as i said, uname -a
[04:10] <HymnToLife> justin_,  uname -r
[04:10] <kd7swh> lol
[04:10] <dm> lamebx thanks
[04:10] <justin_> kyncani, :) ahh
[04:10] <justin_> thanks
[04:10] <band-aid> I think everyone in #ndiswrapper is idle or dead
[04:11] <justin_> I686...
[04:11] <dm> lamebmx  i just opened a root naut and did it that way hehe
[04:11] <LameBMX> kd7swh, i think i remember how to inport them .. i just need to install it in windows and register it so i can find out what keys it does add ...
[04:11] <nolimitsoya> !generic | justin_
[04:11] <ubotu> justin_: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[04:11] <justin_> So then why does Ardour keep telling me that it cannot install on my system because of it being "i386"
[04:11] <justin_> bah
[04:11] <pianoboy3333> band-aid: try the forum or mailing list (prefmailing list is garunteed to be like 70
[04:11] <pianoboy3333> % faster response
[04:11] <SpitzFire> complile
[04:11] <nolimitsoya> justin_, perhaps its a ppc compile, or something...
[04:12] <justin_> nolimitsoya, perhaps...
[04:12] <nolimitsoya> SpitzFire, do you need help with anything?
[04:12] <pianoboy3333> band-aid: I believe http://www.sf.net/projects/ndiswrapper
[04:12] <dtg> pians
[04:12] <dtg> piano
[04:12] <LameBMX> lol im havin ndis wrapper issues too lol
[04:12] <pianoboy3333> what
[04:12] <SpitzFire> execute the code then shoot ah 50 cal form a hello choper
[04:12] <kd7swh> lamebmx just search the registry for anything quickbooks realated and import it. I haven't used windows for about a year
[04:12] <dtg> PM
[04:12] <LameBMX> wrestled with it some today ... there is like a program missing (well it was there in 1.6 apparently)
[04:12] <nolimitsoya> LameBMX, did you follow the wifi docs?
[04:13] <LameBMX> kd7swh, its definatly not that easy
[04:13] <LameBMX> nolimitsoya, wg111u ...
[04:13] <pianoboy3333> dtg: I haven't gotten a pm from you... are you geistered?
[04:13] <pianoboy3333> *registered
[04:13] <kd7swh> lamebmx it works for photoshop
[04:13] <LameBMX> atheros chipset .. i cant fine the load_fw_5322 program
[04:13] <SpitzFire> where the hell am i at
[04:13] <slicky> anyone know how to use xdvdshrink? :S
[04:14] <lumaQQ> hi ~~  Anyone know whats new in Feasty Fawn?
[04:14] <dtg> no not registered
[04:14] <bruenig> lumaQQ, #ubuntu+1
[04:14] <SpitzFire> sorry its been a bad day
[04:14] <lumaQQ> thanks
[04:14] <LameBMX> nolimitsoya, http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=374651&group_id=93482
[04:14] <pianoboy3333> SpitzFire: this is #ubuntu
[04:14] <SpitzFire> oh yeah
[04:14] <pianoboy3333> :)
[04:14] <LameBMX> that is specifically for my card ..
[04:14] <LameBMX> usb 108mb/s netgear wifi adapter
[04:14] <dtg> PM me
[04:15] <SpitzFire> what card
[04:15] <pianoboy3333> bbrb in 20 min
[04:15] <SpitzFire> oh
[04:15] <LameBMX> load_fw_ar5523 /path/to/ar5523.bin that is what i cannot do .. it loads the driver and i got it to modprobe .. but i still dont have a wireless device
[04:15] <SpitzFire> pci i gues
[04:15] <band-aid> oh perfect
[04:15] <band-aid> now my wireless card isn't even seen anymore
[04:15] <Yoshitsune> anyone know the CLI command to find the /dev/xxx of a zip drive connected to a parallel port?
[04:16] <band-aid> wait
[04:16] <band-aid> nvm
[04:16] <band-aid> lol
[04:16] <band-aid> @!#$ its still eth1
[04:16] <band-aid> RAWR
[04:16] <LameBMX> kd7swh, thats good to hear ... i just have dealt with the win registery enough to not expect it too be that easy
[04:16] <SpitzFire> command line central
[04:17] <SpitzFire> like a hover on the oil and poverty probleems
[04:17] <SpitzFire> people i,ll say this once
[04:18] <kd7swh> lamebmx in some cases i know i had to copy whole registry folders it was more than i needed but it worked
[04:18] <SpitzFire> the shit is going down
[04:18] <PriceChild> !language | SpitzFire
[04:18] <ubotu> SpitzFire: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:18] <SpitzFire> soryy
[04:18] <brianMan> I'm getting some locale errors when trying to install php5-cgi (or anything via apt-get for that matter). I think I may have messed something up
[04:18] <SpitzFire> sorry
[04:18] <brianMan> Now I'm trying to figure out how to fix it
[04:18] <SpitzFire> this is the time
[04:19] <SpitzFire> 2007
[04:19] <abramhollon> :)
[04:19] <wireless_blues> ok guys
[04:19] <SpitzFire> right now
[04:19] <wireless_blues> anybody that is listing
[04:19] <plyp_werk> SpitzFire: wtf are you talking about?  spit it out ;)
[04:20] <wireless_blues> I got my wireless card working, but it does not want to communicate with the router
[04:20] <SpitzFire> just saying i love life or i would be dead
[04:20] <SpitzFire> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:20] <__mikem> I am not too crazy about life and I am still here
[04:20] <band-aid> wireless_blues: what do you mean?
[04:20] <__mikem> SpitzFire, please don't flood
[04:20] <LameBMX> SpitzFire, know how the registry works .. it rather find a proggie that will look at state ... and then look at state again .. and print out differences .. then i can export those changes
[04:21] <SpitzFire> whats flood
[04:21] <LameBMX> specially if its loading up classid's n such ... or hiding infor
[04:21] <damian> what does pushd do?
[04:21] <LameBMX> well i live in the
[04:21] <LameBMX> damian, try man pushd or pushd -h
[04:21] <kd7swh> | going over to #fsf |
[04:22] <wireless_blues> the router had no wep or wpa or wap but it has 100 signal but the router does not see it
[04:22] <damian> LameBMX: man pushd gives me nothing relevant
[04:22] <LameBMX> heck i dont got a man entry for it ...
[04:22] <wireless_blues> band-aid, I am trying to get help from people
[04:22] <SpitzFire> i wouldn,t mind fly a black halk into the war that neaver stops
[04:23] <SpitzFire> loaded with nucks
[04:23] <band-aid> wireless_blues: what network card are you using?
[04:23] <imbecile> where do i install ruby files?
[04:23] <SpitzFire> ark file
[04:24] <LameBMX> yea i got them wifi blues too
[04:24] <LameBMX> lol
[04:24] <wireless_blues> band-aid, belkin 75d7010 v6000
[04:24] <wireless_blues> LameBMX,  Welcome to Linux :(
[04:25] <SpitzFire> oh god help me
[04:25] <aimaz> I have a problem on my laptop whereby closing the lid and opening the lid causes the the x server to restart
[04:25] <SpitzFire> bouncer
[04:25] <SpitzFire> will
[04:25] <SpitzFire> die
[04:25] <wireless_blues> aimaz, that happens in windows too, its called hibernation
[04:25] <dougb> is there proprietary nvidia driver support for the 64-bit version of ubuntu?
[04:26] <imbecile> where do i install ruby files to get them to run??
[04:26] <isenmike> hello
[04:26] <band-aid> aimaz: right click on the battery icon
[04:26] <aimaz> wireless_blues, it is normal for the x server to /restart/
[04:26] <band-aid> aimaz: then you can go to prefrences and change it to hibernate, suspend, or turn off screen
[04:26] <aimaz> ?
[04:26] <wireless_blues> aimaz, wrong person, your want spitzfire
[04:26] <smax> hi
[04:27] <tb77> imbecile: just run 'ruby /path/to/file.rb'
[04:27] <smax> what are teh keystrokes to navigate between workspaces ?
[04:27] <aimaz> band-aid, I'm using xubuntu, but ok I think I can manage that
[04:27] <smax> or the pager rather
[04:27] <aimaz> smax, ctrl+alt left/right usually
[04:27] <isenmike> i just got a dual-monitor setup working, but while I can open programs on either screen I can't seem to move them from one screen to the other.  can anyone help?
[04:27] <Fire> code
[04:27] <kyncani> dougb: i got nvidia amd64 here
[04:27] <Fire> the pirates code
[04:28] <LoRez> anybody have any clue why gnome terminal seems to be intercepting alt-key combinations that xterm passes just fine?  (alt-p,a,s,d,f,g,h, etc)
[04:28] <wireless_blues> anybody help me out here, i am ready to go crazy
[04:28] <Fire> cause
[04:29] <kd7swh> everyone, what is the hardest thing that you have ever had to compile?
[04:29] <isenmike> anyone here using a dual monitor setup?
[04:29] <Fire> say your bud-y w-anked i-t on the p c k-eys ares sticky
[04:29] <wiseelben> kd7swh: cinelerra was silly to compile
[04:29] <wiseelben> i do'nt even remember if i got it compiled..
[04:29] <tb77> kd7swh: wxmusik
[04:30] <HentaiSushi> i need help
[04:30] <HentaiSushi> i want to get rid of linux
[04:30] <Derek> can anyone describe the alternate install process to me as a braod overview?  Is it a difficult thing to do if you have extremely little experience with linux?
[04:30] <drivera90> kd7swh, dinner
[04:30] <bruenig> HentaiSushi, get some really strong magnets
[04:30] <HentaiSushi> -_-
[04:30] <Fire> me i,m down wit that
[04:30] <Fire> just use code
[04:30] <DarthShrine> HentaiSushi, Can we ask why?
[04:30] <Fire> linux be gone
[04:30] <HentaiSushi> can anyone help me get rid of linux?
[04:31] <bruenig> Derek, it is not hard at all, I used it the first time I ever installed linux which was the first time I had ever installed an OS (windows had always come preinstalled)
[04:31] <HentaiSushi> er
[04:31] <HentaiSushi> because its my friends pc
[04:31] <HentaiSushi> and he wants it gone
[04:31] <Angelus> !cdburning
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdburning - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <bruenig> Derek, basically instead of clicking and pointing, you use the arrows to highlight and then enter
[04:31] <jrobinson> you could do the old "rm -rf *" (don't actually do this)
[04:31] <Fire> nah
[04:31] <Derek> oh, wow, that's pretty easy, heh
[04:31] <kd7swh> driverva90, I can't cook either
[04:31] <wiseelben> HentaiSushi: well, you would need your WinXP CD
[04:31] <Derek> I thought you would have to configure a bunch of stuff in the command line
[04:31] <Fire> alot of people are doing good sorts of things
[04:31] <HentaiSushi> no
[04:31] <HentaiSushi> dual boot
[04:31] <Fire> what they are
[04:31] <Some_Person> Is there a GarageBand-like app for Ubuntu?
[04:31] <HentaiSushi> i want to only get rid of linux
[04:32] <Derek> how will that solve my black screen problem though?  Will ubuntu boot and be able to see it
[04:32] <band-aid> wow Intel's so called drivers for the 3945ABG completely suck
[04:32] <band-aid> back to ndiswrapper
[04:32] <bruenig> what is garageband
[04:32] <HentaiSushi> what if i reformat my partition that has linux on it?
[04:32] <HentaiSushi> will that get rid of it?
[04:32] <jrobinson> yep
[04:32] <band-aid> do this
[04:32] <wiseelben> HentaiSushi: i wouldn't do that. It would get rid of it, but then you can't boot into windows.
[04:32] <HentaiSushi> but what about the boot menu
[04:32] <band-aid> get partition magic
[04:32] <Fire> i would have to foward ports to send you a os
[04:32] <HentaiSushi> thats what keeps happening
[04:32] <HentaiSushi> the GRUB messse sup
[04:32] <isenmike> hello
[04:32] <band-aid> put in your XP CD and in the recovery console do FIXMBR
[04:33] <bruenig> HentaiSushi, just reinstall windows
[04:33] <kyncani> HentaiSushi: fdisk /mbr in windows will take care of that
[04:33] <band-aid> and it will fix your MBR
[04:33] <HentaiSushi> i dont have that CD
[04:33] <jrobinson> You could install GAG (graphical boot manager)
[04:33] <Some_Person> GarageBand is an iLife app for Mac OS X that lets you mix music loops and your own voiceovers to make music
[04:33] <bruenig> HentaiSushi, bittorrent it
[04:33] <Fire> so we can,t cuss here
[04:33] <Angelus> hi guys, what is a good cd burning tool?
[04:33] <wiseelben> bruenig: that's illegal fool
[04:33] <bruenig> Angelus, gnomebaker, k3b
[04:33] <Fire> well peckin the peter
[04:33] <tb77> Angelus: cdrecord
[04:33] <kd7swh> Some_Person, Jokosher is kind of on its way to being like garageband
[04:34] <isenmike> i just got my dual monitor setup working... I can start programs on either screen, but I can't seem to move windows from one screen to the other.  Does anyone know of a solution?
[04:34] <Angelus> thanks :)
[04:34] <bruenig> !automatix | wiseelben
[04:34] <ubotu> wiseelben: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:34] <Fire> ty :()
[04:34] <dibblego> why do I not see my DLink DWL-G510 WLAN NIC under lspci - not even as an Unknown Device?
[04:35] <Fire> prison doesn,t sound that bad
[04:35] <jrobinson> so if you don't condone automatix do you condone easyubuntu?
[04:35] <Some_Person> Thank you
[04:35] <isenmike> any of you folks have a dual-monitor setup?
[04:36] <dibblego> yes
[04:36] <wiseelben> bruenig: I don't use autogayix. Maybe you should stop pinging me before I am forced to attack you via your unprotected SSH again
[04:36] <Fire> i am
[04:36] <HentaiSushi> i have dual moniter
[04:36] <Angelus> how do you make a program the default when opening the extension?
[04:36] <HentaiSushi> its hard to get to work with ubuntu though
[04:36] <bruenig> wiseelben, don't make me !ops
[04:36] <Fire> the one
[04:36] <isenmike> i've got it working, I'm just trying to figure out if there's any way to move windows from one screen to the other
[04:36] <Fire> sorry
[04:36] <LameBMX> okay this should all be workin fine .. guess in 1.7 the elimintaed the extra steps ...
[04:37] <dibblego> isenmike, you need xinerama to do what you want
[04:37] <LameBMX> but i still do not get a wifi adapter in my network thing
[04:37] <isenmike> i'll look into that, thank you
[04:37] <Fire> i would have been a three headed dragon
[04:38] <Fire> anyone know how to make a bloody marry drink wit a beer
[04:38] <fiendskull9> hey
[04:38] <fiendskull9> is there any straight forward guides to setting up a small home email server?
[04:38] <fiendskull9> all i can find is ones for like, enterprise buissnesses
[04:39] <imbecile> bruenig, I am trying to make an installer for source, any hints?
[04:39] <isenmike> i did a search in synaptic for "xinerama" and I see a bunch of extension libraries but not the program itself
[04:39] <fiendskull9> imbecile, you mean an auto source installerA?
[04:39] <bruenig> imbecile, I have no idea what you just asked me, source?
[04:39] <imbecile> wb liquiddoom
[04:39] <liquiddoom> Hiya.
[04:39] <Fire> depends if the are hot chicks in say nothing
[04:39] <slop> !gamepad
[04:39] <fowgre> isenmike: I just finally got a KVM switch so that I could use a single monitor/mouse/keyboard and I'm loving it... now I've got some room to rest my elbows ;)
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gamepad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <slop> !joystick
[04:39] <ubotu> joystick: Testing and calibration tools. In component universe, is extra. Version 20051019-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 76 kB
[04:39] <fiendskull9> isenmike, xinerama isnt a program, its a background service
[04:40] <imbecile> i have a tar.gz file i'm trying to install
[04:40] <slop> anyone know how to install a usb gamepad?
[04:40] <fiendskull9> slop, if its logitech, should be plug and play
[04:40] <liquiddoom> imbecile: Open it with Archive Manager
[04:40] <imbecile> ok
[04:40] <fiendskull9> imbecile, tar xvf <tarball>
[04:40] <isenmike> fiendskull9, I'm pretty new to linux (installed ubuntu yesterday)... how do I install it?
[04:40] <fiendskull9> imbecile, cd to the directory, ./configure, make, make install
[04:40] <Angelus> guys? how do you make an application the default? For example, I would like to use MPlayer to play my mp3s
[04:40] <imbecile> tar xvzf pkg.tar.gz?
[04:40] <pianoboy3333> What happened to like dtg or whatever his name was.....
[04:40] <slop> fiendskull9: its not....its some off brand....i had it working once, but i used automatix, and the option in automatix to install usb gamepad stuff is no longer in automatix
[04:41] <liquiddoom> imbecile: It might need to be compiled though. There should be a "readme" file in the package
[04:41] <fiendskull9> slop, hmmm
[04:41] <imbecile> liquiddoom
[04:41] <imbecile> oops
[04:41] <fiendskull9> he needs buildessential too
[04:41] <fiendskull9> imbecile, sudo apt-get install buildessential
[04:41] <liquiddoom> imbecile: If it needs to be compiled, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo?highlight=%28compiling%29
[04:41] <bruenig> imbecile, what are you trying to install?
[04:41] <tb77> Angelus: right click on an mp3 there should be an option there
[04:42] <imbecile> bruenig, i dont want to get anyone mad so i cant say
[04:42] <Angelus> tb77 but it doesn't say to save the preferences
[04:42] <bruenig> Angelus, right click on a file, go to properties, and change the open with, it will apply to all files with that format
[04:42] <pianoboy3333> brb everyone
[04:42] <bruenig> imbecile, hmmm now my mind is racing, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't available in the repos
[04:43] <bruenig> imbecile, although sounds like easyubuntu
[04:43] <Angelus> beauty, thanks that's better!! :)
[04:43] <Fire> i always wonder stuff
[04:43] <imbecile> bruenig, its not
[04:44] <Fire> say waht
[04:44] <Fire> hel
[04:44] <isenmike> can anyone point me in the right direction to figure out how to install and use xinerama?
[04:44] <band-aid> God this wireless is going to be the end of me
[04:44] <liquiddoom> Oh yeah... I was reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Swat but on my machine, there's no /etc/xinetd.d/ directory
[04:44] <Fire> i,m happy to be alive
[04:44] <imbecile> i'm trying to be as vague as possible as to not get people mad
[04:45] <Fire> i think its ok
[04:45] <carlfk_lap> where are the install torrents?
[04:45] <Derek> is anyone here that remembers my origional problem?
[04:45] <Fire> we free
[04:45] <Fire> open source code
[04:45] <CraZyLeGs> Can I take a screen shot of just one window
[04:45] <CraZyLeGs> not the whole screen
[04:45] <carlfk_lap> CraZyLeGs: look at the import command
[04:46] <Fire> if it aiightnt free its not me
[04:46] <carlfk_lap> CraZyLeGs: may have to install the imagemagick package
[04:46] <Fire> i love freedom
[04:46] <Fire> i wil fight for it
[04:47] <CraZyLeGs> carlfk_lap: isn't there a more obvious way ? I don't want to install imageMagick just to take one screenshot
[04:47] <carlfk_lap> CraZyLeGs: not that I know of
[04:48] <liquiddoom> Alt+Print Screen
[04:48] <liquiddoom> 
[04:48] <liquiddoom>                 Takes a screenshot of the window to which the mouse points.
[04:48] <Fire> just a sec
[04:48] <liquiddoom> Er, whoops.
[04:48] <Fire> was that
[04:48] <Fire> print pron
[04:48] <Maheanuu> CrazyLegs, are you using Dapper?
[04:48] <CraZyLeGs> edgy
[04:48] <khermans> who needs help :-)
[04:48] <liquiddoom> But yeah, CraZyLeGs, click on the window and press alt-print screen
[04:49] <Fire> alt f-4
[04:49] <liquiddoom> It has the be the "alt" key on the left side of the keyboard though
[04:49] <Maheanuu> Under Applications Accessories there should be a icon that sez take screen shot
[04:50] <liquiddoom> Maheanuu: That captures the entire desktop. They want one window
[04:50] <band-aid> are there any linux distros that come with ndiswrapper installed and everything preconfigured to work with a ipw3945 lol
[04:50] <Fire> can i have a f-u screen
[04:51] <JAyRULE> i just installed mplayer... what else do i need in order to play avi files?
[04:51] <CraZyLeGs> nice
[04:51] <CraZyLeGs> it works
[04:51] <CraZyLeGs> liquiddoom: thanks a bunch
[04:51] <Maheanuu> Why not, the white house has one that blinks F-U to the entire nation
[04:51] <liquiddoom> No problem.
[04:51] <TooR4u> JAyRULE, u have to install w32 codecs
[04:51] <khermans> JAyRULE, sudo aptitude install vlc
[04:51] <Fire> free rules earth
[04:52] <TooR4u> khermans, ha ha...
[04:52] <CraZyLeGs> it plays most of the stuff
[04:52] <khermans> TooR4u, ?
[04:52] <CraZyLeGs> if not all
[04:52] <khermans> CraZyLeGs, only thing vlc doesnt play are most recent WMV formats and encrypted content
[04:52] <TooR4u> he need what to do ....."To work mplayer"
[04:52] <Fire>  wtf where the hell is the herb
[04:53] <khermans> vlc is the best -- why mess around
[04:53] <khermans> band-aid, install network-manager
[04:53] <bruenig> totem is better gui wise
[04:53] <JAyRULE> khermans "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "vlc""
[04:53] <bruenig> !info vlc
[04:53] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[04:53] <Maheanuu> bruenig, I am looking for the codecs for Totem also, where did you find em?
[04:53] <bruenig> JAyRULE, you need to enable universe
[04:53] <TooR4u> JAyRULE, sudo apt-get install vlc
[04:53] <ahmet_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39536/
[04:53] <TooR4u> if the package is not fount
[04:54] <ahmet_> can any one help me with that?
[04:54] <TooR4u> found*
[04:54] <CraZyLeGs> yea universe
[04:54] <bruenig> JAyRULE, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:54] <band-aid> khermans: its this freaking ndiswrapper
[04:54] <khermans> JAyRULE, sudo sed -i 's/main restricted$/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install vlc
[04:54] <TooR4u> sudo apt-get update (This will change the resipro)
[04:54] <ahmet_> can any one help me with that?
[04:54] <TooR4u> JAyRULE, or go to synaptic & search vlc
[04:54] <bruenig> apt-get > aptitude
[04:55] <khermans> Brendon, apt-get < aptitude
[04:55] <bruenig> TooR4u, he obviously does not have universe enabled
[04:55] <bruenig> Yeah brendon
[04:55] <TooR4u> ys
[04:55] <ahmet_> ?
[04:55] <bruenig> whoever you are
[04:55] <khermans> JAyRULE, just copy and paste what i put
[04:55] <ahmet_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39536/
[04:55] <ahmet_> can any one help me with that?
[04:56] <Derek> I need advice... I had this problem where I couldn't see anything after booting the live cd, and people told me to do an alternate cd install
[04:56] <Derek> but do I just have to do the alternate cd install, or do I have to download drivers for my video card?
[04:56] <Fire> sorry my bad
[04:57] <Fire> whats the topic
[04:57] <bruenig> ahmet_, are you on kubuntu or ubuntu?
[04:58] <Fire> yeaah i am
[04:58] <Derek> can anyone advise?
[04:58] <Fire> advive on what
[04:58] <Derek> this is the problem
[04:58] <Derek> I boot with the live cd, and after the ubuntu load screen, my monitor goes black
[04:58] <Fire> wlcome to tthe new world
[04:59] <khermans> Derek, X is not properly configured most likely
[04:59] <Derek> before, people told me that I needed to use the alternative cd, but I'm wondering if I also need to do anything fancy with drivers, etc
[04:59] <Derek> how do I go about fixing that then, khermans?
[04:59] <Fire> i booted on vmware
[04:59] <khermans> Derek, use the safe VGA option
[04:59] <khermans> when you start the CD
[04:59] <Derek> I tried that, still black
[04:59] <khermans> Derek, is this a 'normal' monitor?
[04:59] <Derek> no, widescreen
[05:00] <Derek> 1680x1050 res
[05:00] <Derek> my grpahics card is a radeon x1900
[05:00] <Fire> must be some hard core tech suport here
[05:00] <khermans> hrmm, dunno -- has it ever worked?
[05:01] <element43> could someone suggest to me a 100% (or as close as possible) ubuntu compatible sound card? My onboard sound is utter crap.
[05:01] <Fire> i,m just one in million
[05:01] <carlfk_lap> element43: how much $ you want to spend?
[05:01] <nolimitsoya> element43, via envy is a nice circut
[05:01] <Derek> not on this computer, no
[05:01] <element43> CarlFK, doesn't really matter.. lets say under 200 to be fair
[05:01] <Derek> but this is my first attempt
[05:01] <khermans> element43, soundblaster live
[05:02] <kd7swh> where can I get faad2 and faad2-dev?
[05:02] <minerale> I would like to be able to 'print' something into a pdf file, is this possible?
[05:02] <Ediehow> anyone figured out how to use the dell mediadirect button?
[05:02] <JAyRULE> TooR4u, khermans, bruenig - thanks guys.  i'm using Ubuntu 6.10- the Edgy with all updates. khermans i copied the command and it installed a bunch of stuff, but toward the end, i got a few lines of errors
[05:02] <nolimitsoya> element43, i believe the 'terratec fly' cards are envy chips...
[05:02] <element43> so the envy chipset works well?
[05:02] <carlfk_lap> minerale: OO writer has an "export to pdf"
[05:02] <carlfk_lap> element43: I have an envy - I like it
[05:02] <unikon> anyone else have issues lookin at myspace pages
[05:02] <nolimitsoya> element43, it noes, and its non resampling too :)
[05:02] <minerale> carlfk_lap: what package do I need to install?
[05:02] <minerale> carlfk_lap: it's a firefox page from a secure site
[05:02] <carlfk_lap> minerale: it is part of the basic install
[05:02] <khermans> JAyRULE, what were the errors?
[05:02] <band-aid> !wifi
[05:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:03] <nolimitsoya> element43, but with your budget, perhaps you want to take a look at maudio instead? same envy chip, but much better output/input stages
[05:03] <Fire> iiIii,m down wit that
[05:03] <Derek> does anyone think I'll be able to see stuff if I do the advanced install, after the install is complete, if I can't see anything with the live cd?
[05:03] <minerale> carlfk_lap: i'm talking about a pseudo printer device
[05:03] <carlfk_lap> 00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1370 [AudioPCI]  - hooked to my sterio.  sounds good.
[05:03] <khermans> Derek, probably not
[05:03] <JAyRULE> khermans i just msg'd the errors
[05:04] <element43> ok cool! Thanks everyone. Im gonna run over to newegg and see what I can find
[05:04] <khermans> JAyRULE, priv?  i did not see them
[05:04] <JAyRULE> oh okay
[05:04] <Derek> so how would I go about installing the video driver during the instal process?  I think that's what I need to do
[05:04] <epotter> Kind people.  I'm having difficulty installing edgy desktop on a machine w/ SATA drives.
[05:04] <JAyRULE> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:04] <JAyRULE> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:04] <JAyRULE> E: Couldn't rebuild package cache
[05:04] <epotter> Edgy server seemd to work fine, but DT doesn't detect disk.
[05:04] <khermans> Derek, is this edgy?
[05:04] <Fire> no shizzal
[05:04] <Derek> yeah, 6.10, right?
[05:04] <Fire> you know why that is
[05:05] <JAyRULE> yeah
[05:05] <carlfk_lap> minerale: oh that.  not sure.  it can't be hard.  worst case, save to HD, lood in OO, export...leme see if that works
[05:05] <Derek> I heard something about "x" not being configured correctly
[05:05] <epotter> Dapper worked fine, and is running but I'd like to reload w/ edgy.  how can I force edgy to detect my sata?
[05:05] <JAyRULE> Ubuntu 6.10
[05:05] <Derek> what does that mean?
[05:05] <JAyRULE>                 - the Edgy Eft - released in October 2006
[05:05] <JAyRULE> all updates
[05:05] <nolimitsoya> Derek, the x server is what handles you graphics and inout devices
[05:05] <nolimitsoya> *input
[05:05] <Fire> 1 freedom
[05:05] <khermans> Derek, Xorg is the graphical display server
[05:05] <Derek> does anyone know what I could do to fix it?
[05:06] <khermans> Derek, it is probably due to your widescreen
[05:06] <nolimitsoya> Derek, install and configure the proper drivers
[05:06] <khermans> Derek, i bet the driver loads fine, but your modelines are wrong
[05:06] <Derek> how do I install and configure the drivers if I can't see anything, though?  THat's what I'm confused about
[05:06] <Derek> Khermans, can you think of what I might be able to do to fix it?
[05:06] <nolimitsoya> Derek, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:06] <band-aid> ok guys
[05:06] <plyp_werk> Derek: and you're just using the LiveCD, right?  not installed yet?
[05:06] <carlfk_lap> minerale: just saved from FF and opened in OO.  looks about right, but not perfect
[05:06] <Fire> what wrong with graphicaling displaying stufff
[05:06] <band-aid> how do I unblacklist a driver
[05:06] <plyp_werk> nolimitsoya: i don't think he installed
[05:07] <nolimitsoya> Derek, or sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:07] <khermans> Derek, heres an option -- dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[05:07] <nolimitsoya> plyp_werk, installed what?
[05:07] <plyp_werk> ubuntu
[05:07] <khermans> Derek, in the command line. and choose the VESA driver instead
[05:07] <Derek> correct plyp, live cd
[05:07] <nolimitsoya> plyp_werk, doesnt matter
[05:07] <andre> someone needed restricted formats
[05:07] <andre> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:07] <JAyRULE> oh i also got other erros in the beginning
[05:07] <JAyRULE> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:07] <JAyRULE> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:08] <nolimitsoya> !pastebin | JAyRULE
[05:08] <ubotu> JAyRULE: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:08] <carlfk_lap> minerale: cups-pdf
[05:08] <Derek> I'm very new to linux, so this stuff is a little over my head
[05:08] <nolimitsoya> JAyRULE, just close down synaptic/aptitude or any other package manager you might have running
[05:08] <Derek> should I do an install using the alternate cd, or should I try the live CD again?
[05:08] <Derek> with the live CD, hwo do I access a command line?
[05:08] <nolimitsoya> Derek, id say use the alternate
[05:09] <nolimitsoya> Derek, alt+f2
[05:09] <Derek> wel the problem is I can't see anything iwth the live cd
[05:09] <Derek> so I don't know how I'm going to be able to get a command line
[05:10] <Winter-1> hey
[05:10] <SurfnKid> Hey everyone, Wish you all a Happy and safe New Year 2007, Lets get more ppl on linux and open source
[05:10] <Derek> so I should 1) install using the alternate installer
[05:10] <Derek> then 2) do what?
[05:11] <nolimitsoya> Derek, 2) see if it works :)
[05:11] <Derek> heh, then once it doesn't work?
[05:11] <nolimitsoya> Derek, come back :)
[05:11] <Derek> well, let me do the first 2 rightn ow, I'll probably be back later today or tomorrow
[05:11] <Derek> yeah
[05:11] <North64> would anyone happen to know why irb doesn't work after I installed ruby?
[05:11] <Fire> what works
[05:11] <roflarn> wow cool, didnt know utorrent worked that good in wine :D
[05:12] <nolimitsoya> roflarn, it doesnt. try to minimize it, fex ;)
[05:12] <roflarn> minimizing works fine here =)
[05:12] <nolimitsoya> roflarn, thats nice. :) mine turns into garbage when restoring...
[05:12] <Atomix> Hiya...
[05:13] <Fire> hiya sexy
[05:13] <Atomix> I just installed ubuntu on my computer
[05:13] <JAyRULE> sweet! i closed the synaptic package manager, then pasted the link you gave me khermans,.  thanks nolimitsoya, khermans.... no errors. however, the avi file that i have still doesnt work
[05:13] <Atomix> but, i can't install anything else
[05:13] <Fire> i have ubuntu on mine
[05:13] <JAyRULE> am i missing something else?
[05:13] <nolimitsoya> !synaptic | Atomix
[05:13] <ubotu> Atomix: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[05:13] <Some_Person> Whatever happened to the old PLF repository?
[05:13] <Atomix> thanks
[05:13] <nolimitsoya> !codecs | JAyRULE
[05:13] <ubotu> JAyRULE: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:14] <Fire> whoes sexy on ubuntu
[05:14] <nolimitsoya> Fire, i am :)
[05:14] <ubuntu> hello~~
[05:14] <Fire> cool
[05:14] <Fire> i am too
[05:14] <n73n53> define sexy
[05:14] <nolimitsoya> sexy meaning sexy, not good with ;)
[05:14] <ubuntu> i am aiyaya
[05:14] <ubuntu> haha
[05:15] <Fire> your all sexy
[05:15] <madman91> hey everyone.. i have 20 files.... all are named x-thewordidontwant
[05:15] <Firebird> yay
[05:15] <band-aid> I have a quick question, how do I unblacklist a driver'
[05:15] <madman91> how can i remove thewordidontwant
[05:15] <biotrox> hello all
[05:15] <nvhanh> Hi
[05:15] <biotrox> happy new year 2007
[05:15] <nolimitsoya> madman91, backspace?
[05:15] <Fire> its free biotch
[05:15] <biotrox> have a bit problem
[05:15] <nvhanh> Thanks Happy new year
[05:15] <Fire> yeah happy new year
[05:15] <epotter> hey all, how do you get edgy desktop to detect a SATA controller on install?
[05:15] <ubuntu> happy new year!
[05:15] <biotrox> can't play midi files
[05:16] <nolimitsoya> !midi | bio
[05:16] <ubotu> bio: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[05:16] <biotrox> !midi
[05:16] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[05:16] <madman91> nolimitsoya: for 20 files? cmon now .
[05:16] <nvhanh> I have a problem with wireless connection
[05:16] <plyp_werk> epotter: hmm...maybe depends on the controller?  mine worked without problems
[05:16] <North64> how can I install an rpm in ubuntu?
[05:16] <madman91> for i in *; do mv -- $i ${i#word-to-remove}; done
[05:16] <nolimitsoya> madman91, word or files?
[05:16] <epotter> dapper worked fine, edgy doesn't.
[05:16] <madman91> North64: install alien .. then run sudo alien -d file.rpm
[05:16] <biotrox> north64 use alien
[05:16] <madman91> nolimitsoya: files
[05:16] <North64> thank you :)
[05:16] <epotter> it's on board
[05:16] <biotrox> !alien | north64
[05:16] <ubotu> north64: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:16] <nolimitsoya> madman91, use 'rm <file>' to remove a file
[05:16] <epotter> I have dapper up now and can rund a dmesg.
[05:17] <Fire> shizzal
[05:17] <epotter>  ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x9F0 ctl 0xBF2 bmdma 0xF600 irq 217
[05:17] <madman91> nolimitsoya: sorry.. lemme re-explain ... i have file 1-word 2-word 3-word .... i want to remove all the -word from every file name
[05:17] <plyp_werk> madman91: rm *-word
[05:18] <epotter> so what do I need to do w/ edgy to get it to use the same.
[05:18] <nolimitsoya> madman91, using what filemanager? thunar has a nice bulk rename tool. :) im sure nautilus does too
[05:18] <plyp_werk> madman91: might want to do "ls *-word" first to see if it's the correct files before you remove them
[05:18] <plyp_werk> madman91: ohhh
[05:18] <plyp_werk> madman91: wait
[05:18] <madman91> plyp_werk: yea
[05:18] <plyp_werk> madman91: i thought you meant remove the file
[05:18] <plyp_werk> heh
[05:18] <plyp_werk> k, don't do what i said
[05:18] <madman91> plyp_werk: i found an old command ... for i in *; do mv -- $i ${i#word-to-remove}; done ... but its not working
[05:18] <Winter-1> why cant i see the userlist in xchat
[05:19] <nolimitsoya> Winter-1, we are anonimous ninjas -.-
[05:19] <North64> surprising that rpm is not nativly supported, seems like everyone and their child are offering drivers and such in rpm format
[05:19] <kyncani> madman91: replace # with %
[05:19] <nolimitsoya> *-i+y
[05:19] <mister_roboto> madman91: for n in *-word; mv $n `cut $n -d'-' -f1`; done
[05:19] <Winter-1> lies
[05:19] <madman91> mister_roboto: that will work?
[05:19] <madman91> kyncani: lemme try
[05:19] <mister_roboto> yes
[05:19] <nolimitsoya> North64, rpm is evil :F
[05:20] <nvhanh> Who can help me with wireless connection?
[05:20] <mister_roboto> madman91: try it on a copy
[05:20] <DarthNader> any suggestions for program to convert .mpg to sound-only mp3?
[05:20] <nvhanh> I cant connect with WL
[05:20] <Fire> power dir pro
[05:21] <DarthNader> hmm lemme check it out
[05:21] <khermans__> DarthLappy, ffmpeg ?
[05:21] <plyp_werk> nvhanh: type "iwconfig" and tell me if you see details about a wireless card
[05:21] <Fire> lets see what ports i still have open
[05:21] <nvhanh> ipw3945
[05:21] <TooR4u> how to know the class of the IP?i mean classA,classB..etc
[05:21] <madman91> mister_roboto: i know .. i copied :D dont worry
[05:21] <madman91> mister_roboto: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `mv'
[05:21] <DarthLappy> khermans__: What?
[05:22] <Winter-1> found out why ;)
[05:22] <plyp_werk> nvhanh: i use ipw3945 on my laptop :)
[05:22] <plyp_werk> nvhanh: do you see eth1 in "iwconfig"?
[05:22] <Atomix> so
[05:22] <Atomix> thanks
[05:22] <nvhanh> Now I use WINDOWS
[05:22] <khermans__> DarthLappy, ffmpeg is a program
[05:22] <mister_roboto> madman91: copy paste, you must have the types of quotes wrong
[05:22] <Fire> you guys ever get any pussy
[05:22] <Firebird> I installed Amarok on Ubuntu Edgy but it quits right after the splash screen (worked fine on Dapper), does anyone have any ideas to try? :)
[05:22] <Atomix> um, do i have to dl synaptics or is it already on the comp
[05:22] <Edgy-Paladine> I am having a big problem
[05:22] <DarthLappy> khermans__: Why are you telling me this?
[05:22] <nvhanh> Because i cant connect with LI
[05:22] <madman91> mister_roboto: i copy pasted your line
[05:22] <Fire> like the shaven
[05:22] <plyp_werk> oh
[05:23] <TooR4u> !language  | Fire
[05:23] <ubotu> Fire: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:23] <plyp_werk> nvhanh: which version of ubuntu?
[05:23] <khermans__> DarthLappy, oh -- DarthNader asked sorry!
[05:23] <Edgy-Paladine> I installed the nvidia drivers using the nvidia run script and they didn't work, but now I can't seem to uninstall them
[05:23] <Fire> i,m thinkin about pussy right now
[05:23] <mister_roboto> madman91: oh sorry
[05:23] <khermans__> get a different name!
[05:23] <DarthLappy> khermans__: Ah right, no problem then :)
[05:23] <nvhanh> Christian E#2
[05:23] <khermans__> hehe
[05:23] <Atomix> !language | Fire
[05:23] <Atomix> crao
[05:23] <mister_roboto> madman91: you need a 'do' before the 'mv'
[05:23] <Fire> sorry that cat
[05:23] <nolimitsoya> Fire, yeah, cats are cute arent they :)
[05:23] <Winter-1> is there an ubuntu equivalent of photoshop
[05:23] <plyp_werk> nvhanh: the driver should work just fine on ubuntu 6.10
[05:23] <Atomix> gimp
[05:23] <n73n53> kitty
[05:23] <Winter-1> gimp doesnt do the job well
[05:24] <Atomix> although there are a few differences
[05:24] <kyncani> madman91: like someone said,  for f in *; do mv -- "$f" "${f%WORD}"; done
[05:24] <Atomix> they are in essence, the same
[05:24] <nvhanh> My lap top is Compaq V3018
[05:24] <Winter-1> i tried instaling PS using wine but it crashes too much
[05:24] <Atomix> i gave used photochop and gimp, i like gimp better
[05:24] <nolimitsoya> Winter-1, gimp is plugin compatible, so just export the plugins you need
[05:24] <Atomix> *i used photoshop
[05:24] <nvhanh> I just install Ubuntu (Christian)
[05:25] <Firebird> Did you know there's an Ubuntu Satanic Edition? :)
[05:25] <Winter-1> ive been using photoshop for 6 years
[05:25] <Atomix> anyone
[05:25] <Atomix> where can i GET synaptic
[05:25] <Fire> i hear a little eithnic in the air
[05:25] <nolimitsoya> Atomix, its already installed
[05:25] <Atomix> where
[05:25] <kyncani> Firebird: yeah, it installs windows too ;)
[05:25] <Fire> i,m whity
[05:26] <nolimitsoya> Atomix, system->administration... something :)
[05:26] <Firebird> lol kyncani :)
[05:26] <nvhanh> Driver for Wireless is OK but I cant connect
[05:26] <Fire> i,m down wit black brotheres
[05:26] <Firebird> Atomix, if you have trouble finding it try Alt+F2 and type synaptic. Then click OK
[05:26] <nolimitsoya> Atomix, almost everything you might need is already installed :)
[05:26] <Firebird> err Execute I mean
[05:26] <Atomix> oh
[05:26] <Atomix> I'm a moron
[05:26] <Atomix> ^^
[05:26] <Firebird> :)
[05:26] <Fire> i never banged a black chick yet
[05:26] <madman91> kyncani: not working
[05:26] <madman91> kyncani: mv  says that they are the same file
[05:26] <madman91> kyncani: mv  says that they are the same file
[05:27] <Winter-1> fire you dont wanna get aids
[05:27] <kyncani> madman91: means those files do not finish with WORD
[05:27] <madman91> oh yea... sorry .. its 1-word-1 2-word-2
[05:27] <Fire> sort of did a asion
[05:27] <dibblego> what driver do I use for a RT61 chipset WLAN card?
[05:28] <nolimitsoya> !wifi | dibblego
[05:28] <ubotu> dibblego: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:28] <kyncani> madman91: like someone said,  for f in *; do mv -- "$f" "${f/-WORD-/}"; done
[05:28] <kyncani> madman91: i think
[05:28] <Winter-1> i need to find something like photoshop for linux that isnt gimp
[05:28] <Fire> does somethinthing something count
[05:28] <plyp_werk> Winter-1: why not gimp?
[05:28] <HentaiSushi> someone here said there was a windows boot loader?
[05:28] <Atomix> ok, synaptics confuses me
[05:29] <Winter-1> too confusing for me
[05:29] <Atomix> even with the howto
[05:29] <Winter-1> been using photoshop for 6 years
[05:29] <Firebird> anyone for the amarok not starting problem? It was suggested on a forum to downgrade libqt3-mt, but I'd rather not mess around...
[05:29] <hyphenated> Winter-1: what features do you actually use?
[05:29] <nolimitsoya> Atomix, try apt then
[05:29] <madman91> kyncani: same file
[05:29] <nolimitsoya> Atomix, 'sudo apt-get install <whateveryouwant>' in a terminal
[05:29] <Winter-1> umm
[05:29] <dibblego> nolimitsoya, that page says absolutely nothing about RT61
[05:29] <murchadh`> !gimpshop
[05:29] <ubotu> gimpshop is a hack that makes The Gimp look and feel more like Photoshop.  A .deb for Ubuntu is available via http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294
[05:29] <plyp_werk> Winter-1: heh...it's almost the same.  a couple of interface differences, but it's the same idea
[05:29] <Winter-1> yea
[05:30] <Winter-1> except for the layer styles part
[05:30] <HentaiSushi> is there any way to get rid of the GRUB
[05:30] <HentaiSushi> ?
[05:30] <dibblego> HentaiSushi, install windows?
[05:30] <nolimitsoya> HentaiSushi, yes, you can exchange it for lilo, fex
[05:30] <HentaiSushi> its already installed
[05:30] <HentaiSushi> i dont have the cd
[05:30] <nolimitsoya> HentaiSushi, but why?
[05:30] <HentaiSushi> i want to get rid of linux
[05:30] <kyncani> madman91: means some files do not have -WORD- in their filename
[05:30] <nolimitsoya> HentaiSushi, you need to install the windows boot loader, and for that, youll need the cd.
[05:30] <Fire> aouh
[05:30] <nolimitsoya> HentaiSushi, just download one if youve got a legal key :)
[05:31] <HentaiSushi> theres no like random boot loader software?
[05:31] <Firebird> there's a linux program for that too I believe, it can restore the windows boot loader
[05:31] <khermans__> HentaiSushi, sure!
[05:31] <HentaiSushi> where do i find my key at :S
[05:31] <dibblego> what driver do I use for a RT61 chipset WLAN card?
[05:31] <khermans__> HentaiSushi, fdisk /mbr
[05:31] <Fire> dude says no more linux
[05:31] <HentaiSushi> wait
[05:31] <HentaiSushi> firebird
[05:31] <HentaiSushi> how do i do that
[05:31] <Winter-1> is there a gimpshop deb for amd_64
[05:31] <Firebird> I don't remember the name :s I'll see if I can find it
[05:31] <HentaiSushi> O_O
[05:31] <HentaiSushi> kthx
[05:31] <wastrel> "Ubuntu"
[05:31] <vanberge> anybody know how to fix the issue with flash not displaying any fonts?  :-/
[05:31] <HentaiSushi> i really want to get rid of this T.T
[05:32] <nolimitsoya> Winter-1, if there isnt, get ont he motu team and build one, please :)
[05:32] <kyncani> HentaiSushi: fdisk /mbr  will get rid of grub i think
[05:32] <HentaiSushi> wait
[05:32] <HentaiSushi> what
[05:32] <Fire> wish i had gimp prick but i,m out
[05:32] <HentaiSushi> do i have to do that in a terminal or something
[05:32] <kyncani> HentaiSushi: in a dos terminal
[05:32] <madman91> kyncani: i dont think so
[05:32] <nolimitsoya> kyncani, HentaiSushi, but it wont install the windows loader
[05:32] <HentaiSushi> i can use cmd?
[05:32] <Winter-1> hmm
[05:32] <DarthLappy> How can I get mpg123 to play files recursively?  I have all my music organised into folders so it won't play anything other than the top level.
[05:32] <HentaiSushi> ok i need the windows boot loader though
[05:33] <Fire> thats um
[05:33] <Fire> in a O
[05:33] <ag786> hi
[05:33] <Fire> hi \
[05:33] <nolimitsoya> DarthLappy, id suggest amarok if you have a large music collection you want to manage as a database
[05:33] <ag786> how can i make it so that my win pcs and linux pcs on one network have a single login account
[05:33] <band-aid> ok if I can see my wireless card in iwconfig then can I assume that the driver is installed correctly and the card is recognized by the system?
[05:33] <HentaiSushi> so
[05:33] <HentaiSushi> firebird
[05:33] <ahmet_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39536/
[05:33] <ahmet_> can any one help me with that?
[05:33] <DarthLappy> nolimitsoya: I'd like to play stuff via the commandline though.
[05:33] <wastrel> band-aid:  yes
[05:34] <HentaiSushi> fdisk /mbr will get rid of the GRUB boot loader?
[05:34] <band-aid> ok good
[05:34] <Fire> holly fuckin be jesus
[05:34] <HentaiSushi> !ohmy
[05:34] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:34] <wastrel> !language |fire
[05:34] <ubotu> fire: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:34] <nolimitsoya> ahmet_, try 'sudo apt-get install -f'
[05:34] <Fire> sorry i Mna
[05:34] <ahmet_> Reading package lists... Done
[05:34] <Firebird> HentaiSushi, yes but it won't re-install the windows bootloader afaik
[05:34] <ahmet_> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:34] <ahmet_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[05:34] <ahmet_> thatsll
[05:34] <HentaiSushi> rats
[05:34] <ahmet_> *thats all
[05:34] <kyncani> HentaiSushi: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22fdisk+%2Fmbr%22+linux&btnG=Search
[05:35] <wastrel> !fixmbr
[05:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:35] <nolimitsoya> DarthLappy, how about mpd?
[05:35] <Fire> sorry for the mad rush of
[05:35] <Fire> f
[05:35] <wastrel> that factoid used to be useful
[05:35] <nolimitsoya> ahmet_, then try aptitude, and please highlight
[05:35] <Fire> i gotz your back
[05:36] <HentaiSushi> wait
[05:36] <HentaiSushi> kyncani: if i do that, what about the windows boot loader?
[05:37] <Firebird> HentaiSushi, I found the program, it's called ms-sys. Unfortunately, it only does the same as fdisk /mbr
[05:37] <Fire> sound sound slike
[05:37] <HentaiSushi> ok so how do i ultimately solve this
[05:37] <fowgre> <--- thinks that Fire is a bot
[05:37] <HentaiSushi> will "lock C:" and then "fdisk /mbr" do it?
[05:38] <Fire> click of a forty 5
[05:38] <kyncani> HentaiSushi: even better with grub keyword : http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Uninstalling_the_Boot_Manager_GRUB_from_the_MBR
[05:38] <hope13> !flash
[05:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:38] <Winter-1> can someone find me the source for gimpshop 2.2.10
[05:38] <nolimitsoya> HentaiSushi, download a windows cd, burn it, boot it and do 'fixmbr' from the recovery console
[05:38] <fowgre> Hentai: dual boot is a pain... spend $100 for a used box and dedicate it to Linux
[05:38] <ag786> how can i make it so that my win pcs and linux pcs on one network have the a single login account
[05:38] <element43> that is one weird name
[05:38] <biotrox> !grub
[05:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:38] <North64> I installed ruby using synaptics, but irb doesn't work for some odd reason, anyone got to install ruby correctly using synaptics?
[05:38] <Firebird> HentaiSushi, it's likely on some rescue cd too
[05:38] <nolimitsoya> element43, what is?
[05:38] <mem_> ok i have installed 3 different medial players and none will play my mp3 files
[05:39] <element43> HentaiSushi, i don't know if your name is creative, slightly off-beat, or potentially offensive.
[05:39] <Winter-1> nevermind
[05:39] <Firebird> lol
[05:39] <kdub> anyone here know anything about xgl?
[05:39] <HentaiSushi> element43, its a pun
[05:39] <element43> ?
[05:39] <HentaiSushi> you have to know japanese however to understand it :/
[05:39] <element43> ahh
[05:39] <nolimitsoya> HentaiSushi, no you dont :P
[05:39] <Winter-1> anyone wanna walk me through how to compile this into a .deb
[05:39] <element43> i do not know Japanese but at least I eat sushi.
[05:40] <HentaiSushi> lol
[05:40] <HentaiSushi> i do both
[05:40] <HentaiSushi> :D
[05:40] <mem_> ok talk ubuntu adn quit feeling each other
[05:40] <HentaiSushi> anyways
[05:40] <element43> nolimitsoya, explain to me in a pm plzzzzz
[05:40] <HentaiSushi> everyone
[05:40] <element43> sorry my z key got stuck.
[05:40] <lnknpk04> quick question.  I have my wireless and my WPA encryption working, but everytime i restart the computer, ubuntu automatically tries to connect to my apartment complex's wifi which is unencrypted and open instead of my personal one which has WPA encryption and does not broadcast its ssid
[05:41] <HentaiSushi> it says that the "fdisk /mbr" command will write a new mbr, isnt that what loads the boot loader or whatever?
[05:41] <HentaiSushi> wont that fix it altogether?
[05:41] <HentaiSushi> then i can just delete the partitions?
[05:41] <lnknpk04> any ideas on how to get it to automatically connect to mine instead of the other?
[05:41] <mem_> ok this is more helpful than mime chat LOL later wankers
[05:41] <Firebird> won't you be without OS then HentaiSushi ? you said you have no windows cd
[05:41] <HentaiSushi> i have windows installed
[05:41] <HentaiSushi> dual boot
[05:41] <Firebird> ah, right
[05:41] <HentaiSushi> im in windows now
[05:42] <HentaiSushi> so will "fdisk /mbr" fix my problem?
[05:42] <kd7swh> does anyone here use newspost?
[05:42] <kyncani> HentaiSushi: i think so, but i would follow the opensuse url i gave you. And you can handle partitions with a knoppix live cd and qtparted
[05:43] <HentaiSushi> i can handle partitions no prob
[05:43] <lnknpk04> any ideas?
[05:43] <HentaiSushi> i just want to make sure it wont mess me up alltogether
[05:43] <wastrel> HentaiSushi:  have you asked in a windows channel?
[05:43] <HentaiSushi> er
[05:43] <HentaiSushi> theres a windows channel
[05:43] <HentaiSushi> :/
[05:43] <wastrel> i bet they know more about fixing windows than linux nerds :] 
[05:43] <HentaiSushi> i only know of this channel
[05:43] <IdleOne> HentaiSushi, ##windows
[05:43] <HentaiSushi> well i thought getting rid of linux was my main goal
[05:43] <HentaiSushi> so i came here
[05:43] <Firebird> heh
[05:43] <HentaiSushi> two number signs?
[05:43] <jamesstansell> !rutilt
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rutilt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <IdleOne> HentaiSushi, yes ##windows
[05:44] <Firebird> !amarok
[05:44] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[05:44] <HentaiSushi> woa
[05:44] <kd7swh> linux geeks improve linux windows nerds fix windows
[05:44] <HentaiSushi> i didnt know you could have two #'s in a channel
[05:44] <plyp_werk> ugh.  the ipw3945 driver and daemon are such a pain
[05:44] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[05:44] <plyp_werk> it seems like they only work in magical circumstances
[05:44] <plyp_werk> and i can't duplicate that magic
[05:44] <kd7swh> it should be #windows
[05:44] <john__> hello newbie question i have xubuntu 6.06 i got pppconfig working fine however gnome-ppp isn't working
[05:44] <HentaiSushi> two number signs worked though
[05:44] <john__> i can paste the log if you like
[05:45] <plyp_werk> !pastebin
[05:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:45] <kd7swh> I have used kppp before
[05:45] <kd7swh> gnome-ppp doesn't like me
[05:45] <bcstv> My trash is not working correctly. It takes a long amount of time to move an item off the desktop into the trash bin
[05:45] <john__> ok i will download kppp
[05:45] <john__> kppp is like 22mb a lot longer to download :(
[05:45] <lnknpk04> quick question.  I have my wireless and my WPA encryption working, but everytime i restart the computer, ubuntu automatically tries to connect to my apartment complex's wifi which is unencrypted and open instead of my personal one which has WPA encryption and does not broadcast its ssid
[05:46] <lnknpk04> any ideas on how to get it to automatically connect to mine instead of the other?
[05:46] <kd7swh> sorry you have dialup john_
[05:46] <john__> yeah
[05:46] <Jordan_U> lnknpk04: Are you using network-admin or network manager?
[05:47] <SilentDis> john__, you and me in the same boat on that one :(
[05:47] <lnknpk04> i believe network-admin .  The one that is shaped like the signal bars on a cell phone
[05:47] <bcstv> any ideas why trash hangs?
[05:47] <kd7swh> I am so glad to be rid of dialup
[05:47] <jimmygoon> bcstv: Do you mean that when you delete items it hangs for like 30sec -1 min ? becuase I'm having the same issu
[05:48] <SilentDis> bcstv, are you connected to a slow-loading remote file system perchance?  (like an ftp server or some such that's mounted)
[05:48] <HentaiSushi> wait i have an idea
[05:48] <kd7swh> on the other hand there is nothing like 300 baud packet radio
[05:48] <lnknpk04> Jordan_U:i believe network-admin .  The one that is shaped like the signal bars on a cell phone
[05:48] <bcstv> jimmygoon:exactly!
[05:48] <lnknpk04> sorry, forgot to put your nick
[05:48] <bcstv> silentdis: I have a ftp server mounted local
[05:49] <kd7swh> does anyone here use newspost?
[05:49] <Jordan_U> lnknpk04: Sorry, I only know how to help you by changing /etc/networking/interfaces which that does not use :(
[05:49] <jimmygoon> I don't. Its flat out my FS on my HD :( It stinks to have to wait everytime I clean my desktop
[05:49] <TooR4u> how to change desktop background manually
[05:49] <SilentDis> bcstv, it might be trying to check a .Trash-username there.  do you have the same problem when you unmount it?
[05:49] <TooR4u> Change desktop option is not working
[05:49] <TooR4u> Any ideas?
[05:49] <bcstv> I will unmount and see
[05:50] <lnknpk04> Jordan_U: I take back my previous statement.  I'm suing netowrk manager
[05:50] <Jordan_U> TooR4u: Not working in what way.
[05:50] <TooR4u> when ever i tried to change the desktop background it just loading.....
[05:50] <SilentDis> bcstv, outside of that, i'm not sure what else could be causing it, unfortunatly
[05:50] <jimmygoon> SilentDis: for the problem to occur would I have to be deleting files off of the mounted FS?
[05:50] <lnknpk04> Jordan_U: i did a google image search and figured out which was which
[05:50] <TooR4u> Jordan_U, when ever i tried to change the desktop background it just loading....
[05:50] <bcstv> I als have Apache
[05:51] <Jordan_U> lnknpk04: I could tell by your description of it, manager is the one that does not work :(
[05:51] <lnknpk04> ah, gotcha
[05:51] <SilentDis> jimmygoon, that would be my assumption... but i'm just not sure how nautilus handles the whole .Trash system very well.  I mean, i know how it's supposed to work, but not exactly what checks/balances it goes though each time.
[05:51] <lnknpk04> i guess I shouldn't complain...at least its working!
[05:51] <lnknpk04> its just an annoyance
[05:52] <TooR4u> how to change the desktop background manually(Through cmd prompt?)
[05:52] <ellempira> hey guys one question, can i make GRUB to load a module so i can use a wireless keyboard to make a selection on my boot menu?
[05:52] <hope13> libflash-mozplugin doesn't work for me, what flash plugin should i download?
[05:52] <kdub> anyone gotten beryl to run on dual monitors here?
[05:52] <hope13> no
[05:52] <Jordan_U> ellempira: Doubtfull.
[05:52] <SilentDis> ellempira, i assume the wireless keyboard connects back up to a little dongle that's connected via USB?
[05:52] <Winter-1> in MacOSX you can have the background be like a slideshow so the wallpaper is constantly changing. can this be done in ubuntu?
[05:52] <El_brujo> were can i find the SDL-1.2.10 source?
[05:53] <ellempira> that's right SilentDis
[05:53] <hope13> yes winter it can be done
[05:53] <Winter-1> how?
[05:53] <hope13> >,>
[05:53] <SilentDis> ellempira, in your bios, enable usb keyboard in bios.
[05:53] <plyp_werk> ellempira: then it should work like any other USB keyboard
[05:53] <hope13> fine one seck let me read the ubuntu book
[05:53] <HentaiSushi> in one second :x
[05:53] <raf256> do you find it annoying that most hardware shops do not know realibly if the things they sell will work in linux?
[05:53] <hope13> in 2 min
[05:53] <hope13> lol
[05:53] <Jordan_U> Winter-1: Though scripting I am sure, I don't know of an automatic way of doing it.
[05:53] <SilentDis> ellempira, for specifics on how to do that, you'd have to check out your bios mfg info page... or at least give us a bit of info on your kit so I can look it up for you :)
[05:54] <plyp_werk> raf256: ya, i've been annoyed at that for about 12 years...but it's gotten better over that time ;)
[05:54] <ellempira> yes is supposed to work but i doesnt.....i already checked that on my bios...
[05:54] <SilentDis> raf256, ohhhh yes.  i've yet to find a hw shop that has a CLUE about *nix in general :(
[05:54] <raf256> plyp_werk: because I am preparing a poll about this problem
[05:54] <Winter-1> another question i have is in gnome is there any way to get the panel sizes smaller than 23 px
[05:54] <Derek> alright, so I encountered a problem with the install.  I couldn't use their bootloader because it wasn't recognizing my xp install, so now I can't figure out how to boot at all
[05:54] <raf256> the poll will be ready in few ours and will be placed on http://www.limcore.com/linux/
[05:54] <raf256> the results will be published :)
[05:55] <Derek> if anyone I was talking to before is still around, that is
[05:55] <IdleOne> !dualboot | Derek
[05:55] <ubotu> Derek: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:55] <HentaiSushi> someone help T.T
[05:55] <ellempira> SilentDis i'm on a Intel 865GLC
[05:55] <IdleOne> !fixgrub | Derek
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixgrub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <IdleOne> !grub | Derek
[05:55] <ubotu> Derek: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:55] <gaten> im having trouble connecting to my tightvncserver on my ubuntu server box (edgy) from my ubuntu drapper box. im using the terminal services client, and selected VNC and entered the ip address. but it comes back with the error: connection refused. i dont have a firewall on either box, and an nmap scan of the server says port 5901 is open. any help?
[05:56] <hope13> winter: sudo dpkg -i wp-tray_0.4.6-1_i386.deb
[05:56] <hope13> wp_tray program does it
[05:56] <Winter-1> is there a 64-bit
[05:56] <hope13> winter: Once wp_tray is installed, add it to your startup programs so it starts when you log in: click on the System Menu, then Preferences, then Sessions, and add wp_tray to the list of Startup Programs. Log out and log in again, and you will be able to right-click on the applet
[05:56] <hope13> i dunno
[05:56] <hope13> lol
[05:56] <SilentDis> ellempira, i'm not finding any direct info or the like, unfortunatly.  google has failed me :(
[05:57] <Derek> I think tomorrow I'm just going to clean out my system, install linux, then xp
[05:57] <Derek> or maybe xp first, then linux
[05:57] <SilentDis> Derek, i'd recommend that order vice versa ;)
[05:57] <Derek> the problem is I'm wrestling with vista boot loader which is really terrible
[05:57] <hope13> winter:The source code for this application is at http://planetearthworm.com/projects/wp_tray/files/wp_tray-0.4.6.tar.gz, but Bill has built it for Ubuntu and made it available at http://wildbill.nulldevice.net/ubuntu/wp-tray_0.4.6-1_i386.deb.
[05:57] <IdleOne> Derek, read the instructions ubotu  gave you in those links up there
[05:58] <Derek> I don't know the hda notation really
[05:58] <band-aid> forget it... I give up... I will fix this wireless later...
[05:58] <Derek> so I"m not sure how to go about doing that
[05:58] <hope13> can some1 tell me what to dl so flash will work on my Firefox?
[05:58] <band-aid> g'night
[05:58] <SilentDis> Derek, through experience, i've found it's best to install xp to the first partition, and leave the rest of the drive completely empty.  then do the rest in linux.
[05:58] <Derek> alright
[05:58] <TooR4u> how to change the desktop background manually(Through cmd prompt?)
[05:58] <Derek> has anyone here ever tried an OSX x86 install?
[05:58] <SilentDis> !flash9 | hope13
[05:58] <ubotu> hope13: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[05:58] <ellempira> SilentDis, darn... well i was wondering if i can make ubuntu my default OS on GRUB and trought a floppy boot into windows when i needed it....it's that possible?
[05:59] <hope13> yay
[05:59] <hope13> thx u
[05:59] <hope13> !backports
[05:59] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[05:59] <madman91> kyncani: i found it ... rename -n 's/\_-_www.file24ever.com//' *www.file24ever.com*
[05:59] <madman91> kyncani: i wrote that myself :D
[06:00] <earthen> Hey guys I just hooked up an older computer i had with Ubuntu badger on it would it be ok to just update it right to Edgy or should I go to Dapper first?
[06:00] <gaten> can anyone help me with my vncserver? connection is refused but the server is running
[06:00] <SilentDis> ellempira, hmm... that could work, but most BIOS have a setting to enable the USB keyboard at a 'bios' level, so you can use it for everything.  mine did, at least... :P
[06:00] <HentaiSushi> hey, is my name actually offending anyone here?
[06:00] <Winter-1> meh only an i386
[06:00] <SilentDis> HentaiSushi, i believe the best place for such a discussion is #ubuntu-offtopic ;)  otherwise, we usually don't care hehe
[06:00] <waterpear> HentaiSushi, guess not
[06:01] <Firebird> yay, solved my amarok problem by removing amarokrc
[06:01] <IdleOne> earthen, why not backup /home then do a fresh install
[06:01] <ellempira> SilentDis, hm...i see... that option enable the USB usage? or does specify that its for mouses and keyboard?
[06:02] <bcstv> SilentDis I stopped the ftp server and the same problem exists. How do I find a .Trash on the ftp server
[06:02] <SilentDis> ellempira, iirc, the option in my bios read "USB Keyboard" and the options available were "BIOS" or "OS"
[06:02] <earthen> IdleOne, no reason other than i was hopeing if it would be quicker this way
[06:02] <IdleOne> earthen, prolly wont work and isnt recommended anyhow
[06:02] <SilentDis> bcstv, if you're browsing it from nautilus, view > show hidden files will show it.
[06:02] <kralcymerej> I am having problems with my panels not appearing when I boot up my system
[06:02] <SilentDis> bcstv, otherwise, from a prompt, it's ls -l
[06:02] <SilentDis> bcstv, er, ls -al
[06:02] <kralcymerej> it's almost every other time I load up
[06:03] <earthen> IdleOne, I know upgrading too edgy on my laptop was a real mess but on my desktop I wasn't sure
[06:03] <SilentDis> kralcymerej, are you running beryl/compiz?
[06:03] <kralcymerej> I don't think so (but forgive me I am really new to this whole Linux thing)
[06:04] <kralcymerej> what is beryl/compwiz? should I be running it?
[06:04] <ellempira> SilentDis, well i got an option that's call "Plug&Play" in which you can select between OS or BIOS...and i have the "USB Support" "Enabled" i'm very sad because i've just bought a keyboar/mouse combo that's really nice :b
[06:04] <SilentDis> kralcymerej, you'd know if you were ;)  crazy wiggly windows everywhere heh.
[06:04] <IdleOne> earthen, desktop or laptop chances are you will end up with a messed up system so best bet is to backup your files and do a fresh install
[06:05] <kralcymerej> any ideas as to why I might have totally intermittent  panels?
[06:05] <h0ndaracer2> hey waht is its under my network vmnet8 and vmnet1
[06:05] <SilentDis> ellempira, i'd (obviously) have to be there to actually 'see' what options were available in the bios to you.  i'd be happy to take this to pm/prv room if you were able to look at it at the same time as chatting with me, so we could figure out where that option is :)
[06:05] <earthen> IdleOne, yeah maybe your right, I'll maybe do both just for fun LOL
[06:05] <h0ndaracer2> my firewall says tpye unknown
[06:05] <IdleOne> earthen, hehe thats cool also if you want to lol
[06:05] <bcstv> LS -al shows: drwx------  2 bcs  bcs    4096 2006-12-30 22:01 .Trash
[06:06] <h0ndaracer2> ?????????//
[06:06] <earthen> IdleOne, thanks for the heads up
[06:07] <ellempira> SilentDis, well give me 1 min and i turn on my notebook
[06:07] <IdleOne> earthen, np
[06:07] <HentaiSushi> alright
[06:07] <HentaiSushi> boot with floppy and type fdisk /mbr
[06:07] <HentaiSushi> tahts what i ultimately was told
[06:07] <SilentDis> ellempira, ok.  i'll be available for about 30-45 min before my head hits the keyboard, we'll see what we can do :)
[06:07] <HentaiSushi> but ikll do it later
[06:07] <El_brujo> were can i find the SDL-1.2.10 source?
[06:07] <HentaiSushi> im gtoing to play ssbm
[06:07] <HentaiSushi> later
[06:07] <bcstv> SilentDis: ls -al shows: drwx------  2 bcs  bcs    4096 2006-12-30 22:01 .Trash
[06:08] <Dicander> I'm running debian sid on an ASRock K8NF6G-VSTA motherboard. The graphics card and network card started working when i switched to sid and kernel 2.6.18 (from Ubuntu 6.10). Unfortunately I can't get sound from my integrated sound card. According to the documentation I should be using snd_hda_intel. The module is loaded but alsamixer says: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[06:08] <SilentDis> bcstv, that's a trash folder created by nautilus, yes...   with the ftp spot unmounted, i'm unsure what else could be causing a slow responding trash bin though.  sorry :(
[06:09] <bcstv> Thx for your help anyway! :)
[06:09] <SilentDis> bbiab all :)
[06:09] <Dicander> I never tested sound in Ubuntu but I assume it did not work well there either.
[06:12] <IdleOne> someone wanna help me figure out why I dont here any sound from websites using firefox?
[06:12] <Firebird> maybe something already uses the soundcard, you can fix that using aoss
[06:13] <IdleOne> Firebird, how do I use aoss?
[06:13] <server_> conect #ubuntu
[06:13] <server_> hey
[06:13] <Firebird> first, enter this in a terminal:  sudo apt-get install alsa-oss
[06:13] <IdleOne> server_, your connected already
[06:13] <jevangelo> i just configured wine with automatix2
[06:13] <server_> does anybody know how da crap do i install a rpm pakage ?
[06:14] <jevangelo> its awsome
[06:14] <Firebird> IdleOne, then you need to edit a file: gksudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[06:15] <Firebird> IdleOne, change "none" into "aoss" so that it reads FIREFOX_DSP=?aoss?
[06:15] <server_> how do i install a rpm package ??
[06:15] <Firebird> save and that should do it, restart firefox
[06:15] <decaf> server_: you can convert to deb with alien
[06:15] <Firebird> !rpm | server_
[06:15] <ubotu> server_: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[06:15] <wastrel> server_:  it's usually best not to use rpm.  are you sure the software you are trying to install isn't available from the ubuntu repository?
[06:16] <decaf> server_: but this is probably not a good idea
[06:16] <Alethes> I've done major damage to a slackware system using alien generated slackpacks from rpms
[06:16] <server_> ohhh i c thanx
[06:16] <Alethes> the biggest issue is permissions
[06:17] <server_> so how da crap do i install a tgz packages instead of a rpm ?
[06:18] <server_> actually im kinda new onto this thing of linux but id prefer linux over win
[06:18] <IdleOne> server_, what are you looking to install?
[06:18] <n2diy> server_: use nautilus
[06:18] <Firebird> any luck with firefox IdleOne? :)
[06:18] <server_> im traying 2 isntal some updates for vmware
[06:19] <server_> actually thats an othe issue  i cant fine a windows xp .vmx
[06:19] <decaf> server_: vmware works
[06:19] <decaf> server_: what do you need ?
[06:20] <server_> i need 2 run some design suites from win and also i need internet explorer 2 chek some stuff on certains sites
[06:20] <decaf> server_: get and install vmware server
[06:20] <lnknpk04> i'm trying to access my shared windows folders but am having some trouble.  anyone have a link to a guide?
[06:21] <decaf> server_: install a 'linux-headers' package and use vmware server's tar.gz dist
[06:21] <server_> haha sounds easy but where do i gat linux headers ?
[06:21] <server_> get**
[06:22] <decaf> it seems java-package doesn't support java 6, is there another way to instal jdk6 ?
[06:22] <Arafangion> server_: apt-get install linux-headrs , perhaps?
[06:23] <decaf> server_: apt-get install 'headers for your kernel'
[06:23] <decaf> server_: uname -a
[06:24] <Arafangion> decaf: Headers for *the* kernel, you mean? Not neccessary those with the kernel you are currently running.
[06:25] <Arafangion> decaf: The reason they are separated now is because the correct one depends on the one that *glibc* was compiled with.
[06:25] <Gorillasmalls> i need help configuring my pcmcia car
[06:25] <konam> there's a way to install reconstructor in dapper?
[06:25] <n2diy> car?
[06:26] <cafuego_> drive it in the the pcmcia slot
[06:26] <cafuego_> and put the hand brake on
[06:26] <decaf> konam: can you explain
[06:26] <Gorillasmalls> were do i find that
[06:26] <n2diy> :)
[06:26] <n2diy> in the garage?
[06:26] <server_> well do u know where can i get some .vmx files ?
[06:26] <Gorillasmalls> cmon now
[06:26] <Gorillasmalls> lol
[06:27] <decaf> server_: vmware server doesn't need
[06:27] <IdleOne> Firebird, right now sound is least of my issues firefox is bogging down my machine so bad I had to restart X
[06:27] <konam> decaf reconstructor, the app that let you make an ubuntu livecd derivative (with your own customization), doesn't install in dapper
[06:27] <Firebird> ouch
[06:27] <LameBMX> k why dont my wifi nic show up ... ndiswrapper is loaded in lsmod ... dont know of anything to do after that :/
[06:27] <konam> by some dependencies....
[06:27] <server_> well if i dont need them how can i start emulating windows ?
[06:27] <decaf> konam: I need one too
[06:27] <LameBMX> !wireless
[06:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:28] <n2diy> Gorillasmalls: ok, your card is plugged in?
[06:28] <decaf> server_: just read some docs at vmware.com, ok?
[06:28] <konam> decaf you can't install it too?
[06:28] <cafuego_> server_: You boot a windows install cd and install.
[06:28] <IdleOne> Firebird, any reason why firefox would start doing this...started earlier this morning
[06:29] <iLLf8d> IdleOne one of your extensions probably updated and is a pos
[06:29] <Firebird> sorry IdleOne, no idea... I'm pretty much a linux newbie :)
[06:31] <burepe> Ktorrent just started crashing on me. Can anyone tell me how I can fix it? This is the out put when I start it in the command line http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39490/ and this is what the crash handler says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39491/ Thanks
[06:32] <Dark_Nexus> anyone awake?
[06:32] <IdleOne> iLLf8d, seems you may have been right about the extensions. uninstalled them and firefox *crossed fingers* seems ok but I still dont have any sound
[06:32] <Arafangion> Dark_Nexus: Gee, some people ask silly questions, don't they?
[06:33] <Firebird> no Dark_Nexus, we're typing this while we sleep :) it's a lot of fun, you should give it a try
[06:33] <lnknpk04> !windows
[06:33] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:33] <Dark_Nexus> quite the skill
[06:33] <Dark_Nexus> i should start practicing
[06:33] <lnknpk04> !shared folder
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shared folder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <Dark_Nexus> had a question about xinerama
[06:33] <zero> hey
[06:33] <Dark_Nexus> if anyone would be willing to help me, i would really appreciate it
[06:33] <lnknpk04> can someone tell me how to access my windows shared folders from ubuntu?
[06:33] <imbecile> how do i install perl?
[06:33] <zero> ive a question about installing a driver for a dial up modem
[06:33] <zero> ive the driver already
[06:34] <Arafangion> imbecile: It might actually already be installed.
[06:34] <zero> i just need help installing
[06:34] <Firebird> else try sudo apt-get install perl
[06:34] <n2diy> imbecile: how do you know it isn't installed already?
[06:34] <kdub> synaptic package manager is probably the easiest way to install perl, imbecile
[06:34] <haxr4hire> lnknpk04: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[06:34] <n2diy> imbecile: how do you know it isn't installed already?
[06:35] <lnknpk04> haxr4hire: is that for windows when its partitioned or if its on a network.  I want to do this for a computer thats on my network
[06:35] <zero> the readme says to use the make command, but it says there is not a make command
[06:35] <imbecile> ahh turns out i have it
[06:35] <haxr4hire> o
[06:35] <IdleOne> zero, sudo aopt-get install build-essential
[06:35] <n2diy> imbecile: good
[06:35] <Arafangion> imbecile: perl is one of the things that you can generally assume exists on *any* unix or linux system.
[06:35] <zero> does that require... internet access???
[06:35] <imbecile> i need to compile this stuff :/
[06:35] <Arafangion> imbecile: What does perl have to do with compiling stuff?
[06:36] <IdleOne> zero,  yes
[06:36] <haxr4hire> lnknpk04: did you try going to Places -> Network Server
[06:36] <n2diy> imbecile: with perl?
[06:36] <zero> i need to install the driver to get internet access
[06:36] <erisco> are there any basic flight simulators for ubuntu?... I know there are some decent games
[06:36] <imbecile> well what im trying to compile is a perl app
[06:36] <zero> ;)
[06:36] <imbecile> i was wondering why it wasnt working
[06:36] <violot> erisco: Trt FlightGear
[06:36] <lnknpk04> i did, and it shows me my workgroup, but when i double click on it i get an error
[06:36] <Dark_Nexus> i've got my xinerama set up nicely working on dual monitors, my default resolution is on 1280x1024, however, i've got a horizantal setup so each workspace spans both screens.  however, when i try to change resolutions, it will switch to a clone mode and display the same thing on both screens.  i've tried messing around with my xorg.conf file, but no luck.  any way to get it so that other resolutions will use the horizantal setup?
[06:36] <IdleOne> zero,  packages.ubuntu.com to download packages and burn to cd then you can install to your ubuntu box
[06:36] <boknoy> im wondering if its possible to install freebsd over ssh from ubuntu
[06:36] <Firebird> you beat me to it violot :)
[06:36] <Arafangion> imbecile: Perl apps do not need compilation - the source code is directly executed with perl. (It's an interpreter)
[06:36] <zero> what will it do?
[06:37] <burepe> lnknpk04: Samba is what you need.
[06:37] <lnknpk04> "couldn't display smb:///workgroup" The location is not a folder
[06:37] <burepe> !samba
[06:37] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:37] <erisco> violot, FlightGear wasn't a package... want me to google it?
[06:37] <lnknpk04> its installed
[06:37] <violot> erisco: Maybe it's called fgfs or fg I don't recall
[06:37] <boknoy> im wondering if its possible to install freebsd over ssh from ubuntu?
[06:37] <violot> Lemme check
[06:37] <violot> (to erisco)
[06:37] <Firebird> it is a package according to apt-cache
[06:37] <IdleOne> zero,  build-essential will install make and a few other rthings to enable you to install your driver
[06:37] <imbecile> Arafangion, does ruby have anything to do with perl?
[06:37] <burepe> follow that link on how to set up lnknpk04
[06:37] <Firebird> flightgear - Flight Gear Flight Simulator
[06:37] <lnknpk04> now its pulling up the workgroup but only recognizing itself
[06:38] <burepe> really
[06:38] <damian> ubuntu-installer.exe
[06:38] <lnknpk04> burepe: i just set it up a couple minutes ago
[06:38] <burepe> have you tried smb4k
[06:38] <burepe> ?
[06:38] <lnknpk04> isn't that only for KDE?
[06:38] <burepe> no
[06:38] <violot> erisco, sudo apt-get install flightgear
[06:38] <lnknpk04> oh
[06:38] <Arafangion> imbecile: Ruby is a language that purports to be inspired by Perl, and is apparently also similar to Python.
[06:38] <lnknpk04> lemme give that a shot then
[06:38] <erisco> violot, big file eh? looks really fun though :D
[06:38] <haxr4hire> anyone know whats the best way to setup NetgearWG111 (usb dongle wireless)
[06:38] <erisco> violot, thanks very much for the info
[06:38] <Arafangion> imbecile: However, perl is currently faster than Ruby.
[06:39] <violot> erisco, No problem, have fun :)
[06:39] <burepe> lnknpk04: are you sure that your windows comps are not on another network like, mshome or workgroup ?
[06:39] <boknoy> would u know if its possibel to install bsd over ssh from linux i got a ubuntu box that i want to convert
[06:39] <Dark_Nexus>  i've got my xinerama set up nicely working on dual monitors, my default resolution is on 1280x1024, however, i've got a horizantal setup so each workspace spans both screens.  however, when i try to change resolutions, it will switch to a clone mode and display the same thing on both screens.  i've tried messing around with my xorg.conf file, but no luck.  any way to get it so that other resolutions will use the horizantal setup?
[06:39] <zero> im at the packages.ubuntu.com page, what do i download?
[06:39] <lnknpk04> burepe: its only one other computer.  its on WORKGROUP, which is what i set up samba for
[06:40] <imbecile> Arafangion, its definately not the easiest to install
[06:40] <IdleOne> zero, look for a package called build-essential
[06:41] <zero> im not seeing it
[06:41] <Arafangion> imbecile: It's actually rather easy to install, especially since, as you noted, perl is *already* installed. :)
[06:41] <lnknpk04> installing smb4k now...
[06:41] <Arafangion> zero: type "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[06:41] <zero> im trying to install a driver
[06:41] <burepe> lnknpk04: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently?highlight=%28windows%29
[06:41] <zero> to get net access
[06:41] <Gorillasmalls> my desktop is not reading my wireless card how do i configure it
[06:41] <IdleOne> Arafangion, he cant he isnt on ubuntu right now and doesnt have internet on ubuntu box
[06:41] <lnknpk04> ahh
[06:41] <lnknpk04> thanks
[06:42] <imbecile> Arafangion, sorry i know its kinda wierd but may i pm you for help?
[06:42] <Arafangion> zero: Do you have a friend who runs ubuntu and has net access?
[06:42] <Winter-1> anyone know how to install ubuntustudio-desktop
[06:42] <zero> no
[06:42] <Arafangion> imbecile: Sure, but I could be slow to respond.
[06:42] <zero> why cant i install the driver without the package?
[06:43] <Dark_Nexus>  i've got my xinerama set up nicely working on dual monitors, my default resolution is on 1280x1024.  i also have a horizantal setup so each workspace spans both screens.  however, when i try to change resolutions, it will switch to a clone mode and display the same thing on both screens.  i've tried messing around with my xorg.conf file, but no luck.  any way to get it so that other resolutions will use the horizantal setup?
[06:44] <madman91> Dark_Nexus: i'm jealous of your xinerama :D
[06:44] <lnknpk04> smb4k finds it
[06:44] <Dark_Nexus> heh
[06:44] <Dark_Nexus> i'm liking it, got the additional monitor for christmas
[06:44] <SilentDis> stupid question of the day:  is it possible to set seperate desktop backgrounds on each virtual desktop?
[06:44] <IdleOne> zero,  because to install the driver you need to type make rest-of-command and you dont have make
[06:45] <Dark_Nexus> if your window manager supports it, yes
[06:45] <IdleOne> zero, http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/build-essential there you go
[06:45] <Dark_Nexus> what manager are you using?
[06:45] <madman91> Dark_Nexus: does it bother you that you have to move your eyes so much ?
[06:45] <Dark_Nexus> no, they need the exercise
[06:45] <n2diy> SilentDis: yes, right click on the panels, and play around.
[06:45] <Gorillasmalls> my update manager is not working it is telling me E: Type 'wget' is not known on line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:45] <Gorillasmalls> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[06:45] <Gorillasmalls> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[06:45] <SilentDis> Dark_Nexus, Gnome 2.16 w/ beryl 0.1.4
[06:45] <Gorillasmalls> how do i fix that
[06:46] <IdleOne> !easysource Gorillasmalls
[06:46] <haxr4hire> anyone know how to setup NetgearWG111 (usb dongle wireless)
[06:46] <IdleOne> !easysource | Gorillasmalls
[06:46] <ubotu> Gorillasmalls: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:46] <Dark_Nexus> i'm not really to sure about gnome, i only have experience with xfce
[06:46] <fr500_> Gorillasmalls: the lines on sources.list should begin with deb or deb-src, chck line 54
[06:46] <Dark_Nexus> the desktop utility that comes with it might have the optiontoo
[06:46] <fr500_> haxr4hire: is it detected?
[06:46] <Gorillasmalls> thank you fr500
[06:46] <fr500_> no prob Gorillasmalls
[06:47] <mwalker_mewconsu> can anyone help me with this error? I just installed Ubuntu and ran the updates but I received this error
[06:47] <mwalker_mewconsu> http://www.palm.com/us/products/smartphones/treo700w/
[06:47] <mwalker_mewconsu> E: gnome-games-data: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 134
[06:47] <mwalker_mewconsu> E: gnome-games: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:47] <erisco> violot, know how to call it through a terminal?
[06:47] <erisco> violot, "flightgear" doesn't appear to work
[06:47] <zero> now, what do i do with the build essential package?
[06:47] <SilentDis> n2diy, not seeing an option there, unfortunatly :(
[06:48] <zero> how do install it?
[06:48] <Dark_Nexus> i've got my xinerama set up nicely working on dual monitors, my default resolution is on 1280x1024.  i also have a horizantal setup so each workspace spans both screens.  however, when i try to change resolutions, it will switch to a clone mode and display the same thing on both screens.  i've tried messing around with my xorg.conf file, but no luck.  any way to get it so that other resolutions will use the horizantal setup?
[06:48] <IdleOne> can somebody tell zero  how to add a CD repo to his source so he can install from CD
[06:48] <Dark_Nexus> and yes, i am just copying and pasting that :/
[06:49] <erisco> violot, "fgfs", got it, thanks
[06:49] <SilentDis> IdleOne, you're looking for apt-cdrom :)
[06:49] <IdleOne> zero,  would be alot easier and faster if you just got a NiC card and a router
[06:49] <n2diy> SilentDis: hmm, no, I'm not either, I could do that in FC1
[06:50] <zero> no dsl access...bad location
[06:50] <IdleOne> zero,  to install from the cd you are going to burn you will type in terminal apt-cdrom install build-essential
[06:50] <SilentDis> IdleOne, the command is sudo apt-cdrom add.  it'll prompt you through putting the disk in, etc
[06:50] <IdleOne> SilenceGold, thank you
[06:50] <IdleOne> ahhh
[06:50] <n2diy> !cdrom
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <IdleOne> well
[06:50] <zero> ive got it on the desktop
[06:50] <zero> i just used a jumpdrive to transfer it
[06:51] <n2diy> !addig cdrom repo
[06:51] <IdleOne> lol
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addig cdrom repo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <plyp_werk> band-aid: you still having wireless issues?
[06:51] <zero> should i move it to the home dir?
[06:51] <IdleOne> SilenceGold, how does he install build-essential from Desktop?
[06:51] <madman91> I INSTALLED the xmms-skins package... when i open up xmms .. and go to skin browser.. there are no skins... so where are those skins ? where is the dir they are saved in ?
[06:51] <plyp_werk> band-aid: i was just reading on ubuntuforums
[06:51] <Winter-1> anyone know how to install ubuntustudio-desktop
[06:51] <lnknpk04> woohoo
[06:51] <nevron> what is the command to manually update my ubuntu system
[06:51] <lnknpk04> works
[06:52] <lnknpk04> and i'm out folks.  Thanks for the help!
[06:52] <Firebird> /usr/share/xmms/Skins
[06:52] <nevron> !update
[06:52] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:52] <haxr4hire> fr500, no and its WG111t
[06:52] <h3xis> nevron, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:52] <haxr4hire> fr500, no and its WG111t
[06:52] <n2diy> nevron: sudo updatedb
[06:52] <SilentDis> IdleOne, I'm SilentDis, btw ;)  anyway, it SHOULD be sudo apt-get install <packagename>, in this case build-essential.  once the CD is in the local list, it'll poll that first, then online.
[06:53] <nevron> ok hexis thx
[06:53] <IdleOne> SilentDis,  sorry:)
[06:53] <damian>  what program do I use to decompress 7zip files??
[06:53] <haxr4hire> its a WG111t and no its not detected
[06:53] <SilentDis> IdleOne, no worries :)
[06:53] <fotoflo> sweet, i went to the market and baught a NIC for $2 and threw out my old nic and now ubuntu has networking!
[06:53] <Dark_Nexus> damian, tar should be able to handle it
[06:53] <fiendskull9> hey
[06:53] <IdleOne> SilentDis, the package is now on the desktop of the ubuntu box. anyway of installing from there ?
[06:53] <fiendskull9> im having trouble getting php5 to work with apache
[06:53] <zero> how do i move back a dir in terminal?
[06:54] <fiendskull9> i installed all the needed stuff
[06:54] <h3xis> damian, run sudo apt-cache search 7zip. it should return the name of the package that will allow you to do so
[06:54] <Dark_Nexus> zero, use cd ..
[06:54] <missingXtension> help my usb moousean kyboard dot work even though lspci shows the conetion
[06:54] <fiendskull9> and restarted apache, but php still isnt working
[06:54] <zero> thans
[06:54] <fotoflo> so now I need to access my windows hard drive - an one know how to do that?
[06:54] <zero> thanks
[06:54] <h3xis> fotoflo, is it IDE or SATA?
[06:54] <n2diy> IdleOne: what are your choices if you right click it?
[06:54] <fotoflo> IDE
[06:54] <haxr4hire> how do u setup wg111t ?
[06:54] <edgarin_> Hi to all people
[06:54] <h3xis> fotoflo, which partition is it in?
[06:54] <Terminus> !ntfs | fotoflo
[06:54] <ubotu> fotoflo: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:55] <IdleOne> n2diy, it isnt me it is zero  who needs to install buold-essential wich is sitting on his desktop
[06:55] <fotoflo> there's only one on that drive
[06:55] <fotoflo> i dont think its NTFS
[06:55] <SilentDis> IdleOne, sure.  sudo dpkg -i ~/desktop/build-*.deb should do the trick :)
[06:55] <fotoflo> ubuntu is running on my slave drive
[06:55] <fotoflo> mhwhahah
[06:55] <fotoflo> err... and windows is on the master drive
[06:55] <Dark_Nexus> i've got my xinerama set up nicely working on dual monitors, my default resolution is on 1280x1024.  i also have a horizantal setup so each workspace spans both screens.  however, when i try to change resolutions, it will switch to a clone mode and display the same thing on both screens.  i've tried messing around with my xorg.conf file, but no luck.  any way to get it so that other resolutions will use the horizantal setup?
[06:55] <n2diy> IdleOne: roger that, Zero, what happens when you right click it?
[06:56] <SilentDis> IdleOne, oops, that's sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/build-*.deb  (caps are important, after all :)
[06:56] <gaten> !pda
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <h3xis> fotoflo, is it fat?
[06:56] <gaten> !ipaq
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipaq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <fotoflo> fat32 i think
[06:56] <IdleOne> zero, sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/build-*.deb that should install the package thank you SilentDis and n2diy /me going for a smoke be back in a little
[06:56] <SilentDis> IdleOne, nt at all hun :)
[06:56] <zero> the tar file?
[06:56] <gaten> could anyone help me w/ my ipaq 2495 (pda)? im following the howto, but it wont create an active sync
[06:56] <IdleOne> SilentDis, hun? lol
[06:57] <zero> just the basic cut copy open extract move to trash
[06:57] <n2diy> Zero, right click on it, what happens?
[06:57] <h3xis> fotoflo, then run sudo mkdir /media/hda; mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /media/hda
[06:57] <zero> no install or anything
[06:57] <SilentDis> IdleOne, hmm?  sorry, just a friendly refrence to you, i shall refrain :)
[06:57] <missingXtension> sudo dpkG -r xorg- xorg-d fglrx
[06:58] <IdleOne> SilentDis, thats ok just caught me offguard and your nick didnt make me think you were female
[06:58] <IdleOne> brb
[06:58] <arrenlex> I am trying to Frosty a line of text with the GIMP. http://arrenlex.diff.be/screenshots/23458.png   What am I doing wrong?
[06:59] <missingXtension> help my usb moousean kyboard dot work even though lspci shows the conetion
[06:59] <n2diy> Zero, any "open with" options?
[06:59] <zero> yes
[06:59] <SilentDis> IdleOne, lol  I name most of my MMO toons Dis and the like.  a touch of goth in an otherwise normal me ;)
[06:59] <fotoflo> sweet!
[06:59] <h3xis> fotoflo, work ?
[06:59] <fotoflo> h3xis: now how do i put that in my boot script?
[06:59] <h3xis> fotoflo, you need it in your fstab
[06:59] <fotoflo> yeah
[07:00] <n2diy> Zero, ok, open with "archive manager".
[07:00] <fotoflo> which part of it
[07:00] <Dark_Nexus> i've got my xinerama set up nicely working on dual monitors, my default resolution is on 1280x1024.  i also have a horizantal setup so each workspace spans both screens.  however, when i try to change resolutions, it will switch to a clone mode and display the same thing on both screens.  i've tried messing around with my xorg.conf file, but no luck.  any way to get it so that other resolutions will use the horizantal setup?
[07:00] <fotoflo> the whole thing?
[07:00] <h3xis> you need to add a line
[07:00] <fotoflo> err
[07:00] <h3xis> it's /etc/fstab
[07:00] <fotoflo> da
[07:00] <h3xis> as root
[07:00] <h3xis> look at how the other devices are mounted
[07:00] <zero> k
[07:00] <fotoflo> whats a UUID?
[07:01] <fotoflo> a hardware address?
[07:01] <zero> where should i extract to?
[07:01] <zero> ive already moved the internal folder to the desktop
[07:01] <h3xis> fotoflo, i think so?
[07:01] <n2diy> Zero, include n2diy in your replies, so I know your talking to me, and your messages will be highlighted here.
[07:01] <haxr4hire> anyone know how to install netgear WG111t (usb dongle wireless)
[07:01] <h3xis> fotoflo, why?
[07:01] <zero> how about pm
[07:01] <Murchadh> !UUID
[07:01] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[07:01] <beasty> nn y'all
[07:01] <n2diy> Zero, the file system.
[07:02] <missingXtension> help my usb doesnt work even though the devices are listed in lsusb!! i cant use my HID devices
[07:02] <Winter-1> gimp fucking sucks
[07:02] <h3xis> missingXtension, what kind are they?
[07:02] <Winter-1> the UI is horrible
[07:02] <h3xis> Winter-1, there is a plugin that allows you to change the interface to look more "photoshop-ish"
[07:02] <thedcm> NIGGER LINUX
[07:02] <n2diy> !language
[07:02] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:02] <zero> n2diy, it says i dont have permission
[07:02] <missingXtension> dell usb  multimedi keyboard and microsoft mouse 3k but they worked before
[07:03] <zero> n2diy, can we do pm?
[07:03] <h3xis> missingXtension, what did you do different?
[07:03] <Winter-1> its gimp-shop and they dont have a deb for 64-bit
[07:03] <zero> n2diy, its so much quiter
[07:03] <wastrel> hi
[07:03] <zero> quieter
[07:03] <n2diy> Zero, ok, close out of that, and restart nautilus with gksudo nautilus.
[07:03] <missingXtension> i just built a fglrx module but its nothing new
[07:03] <trying2install> hello?
[07:04] <n2diy> Zero, no, I'm not registered.
[07:04] <h3xis> missingXtension, try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and see. it should ask you about keyboard and mouse in there, if i remember correctly
[07:04] <zero> n2diy, i moved it
[07:04] <carlfk_lap> booted edgy on a PPC mac - and the video is all flipped out.  any sugestions on where to start?
[07:04] <n2diy> zero, moved what, why did you do that?
[07:05] <missingXtension> well i checked my xorg.conf and nothing has changed but it hapens as soon ass the kernel boots  up
[07:05] <zero> n2diy, i moved the build essential folder to the root of the file system
[07:05] <missingXtension> let me see if it j\helps
[07:05] <JAyRULE> i dotn suppose you guys know of a good tutorial for setting up vsftp servers, including how to add usernames and whatnot
[07:05] <missingXtension> sorry bout the typos im using my sons ruber keyboard and it sucks
[07:06] <h3xis> haha
[07:06] <LameBMX> lol
[07:06] <h3xis> rubber keyboards are hawt
[07:06] <missingXtension> but it great for cleaning the milk spills
[07:06] <Tuxiscool> On trying to run an OpenGL program of mine, I get the error "Failed loading DPMSDisable: /usr/lib/libX11.so.6: undefined symbol: DPMSDisable" Anyone know a solution?
[07:06] <trying2install> hi. I'm trying to install ubuntu from the live disk, and the install prog insists that I must reformat hda4 where I have all my files backed. How do I make it install on hda3 where I want it?
[07:06] <n2diy> Zero, how'd ya do that if you don't have permissions to play with the file?
[07:06] <zero> n2diy, i opened nautilus ;)
[07:06] <n2diy> zero, with sudo?
[07:07] <zero> yes
[07:07] <n2diy> zero, I don't know why you moved it, but anyway, try and extract/open now, to the file system.
[07:07] <missingXtension> isnt there a phigh missing the the command to reconf xorg?
[07:08] <h3xis> missingXtension, what?
[07:08] <zero> n2, ive it extracted to the root so its like this filesystem/build-essential/bunch of files
[07:08] <n2diy> zero, ok, now go and try to compile your program.
[07:09] <trying2install> hi. I'm trying to install ubuntu from the live disk, and the install prog insists that I must reformat hda4 where I have all my files backed. How do I make it install on hda3 where I want it?
[07:09] <fotoflo> god ubuntu is really nothing but trouble
[07:09] <fotoflo> it comes with a music player that cant play mp3s
[07:09] <h3xis> fotoflo, oh it can ;P
[07:09] <Dark_Nexus> that's because mp3's are a protected format
[07:09] <fotoflo> you just have to say abracadabra?
[07:09] <h3xis> yeah
[07:09] <Dark_Nexus> which you technically need a license for its decoder
[07:09] <LameBMX> fotoflo, make life realyy easy on ya
[07:09] <Dark_Nexus> almost
[07:09] <h3xis> and clap your hands
[07:09] <h3xis> sometimes do a rain dance
[07:09] <arrenlex> !mp3 | fotoflo
[07:09] <ubotu> fotoflo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:10] <LameBMX> fotoflo, sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:10] <Kris_S> Hey everyone
[07:10] <Dark_Nexus> lol
[07:10] <Dark_Nexus> piped it
[07:10] <fotoflo> ill do that
[07:10] <trying2install> oh man. Why won't the stupid thing use the partitions I want?
[07:10] <fotoflo> but i dont want to us VLC to play mp3s
[07:10] <fotoflo> is there a win-amp equivlent?
[07:10] <h3xis> fotoflo, sudo apt-get install audacious
[07:10] <LameBMX> then dont complain about linux being hard
[07:10] <zero> n2, it still says make command not found
[07:11] <trying2install> fotoflo: xmms
[07:11] <n2diy> h3xis: audacity?
[07:11] <h3xis> no
[07:11] <h3xis> audacious
[07:11] <LameBMX> one player that will play anything ive ever thown at it .. including borken vids etc
[07:11] <n2diy> h3xis: ok.
[07:11] <trying2install> will someboyd please acknowledge my existence? At least tell me somewhere where I can get some help?
[07:11] <LameBMX> xmms is nice
[07:11] <h3xis> xmms is dead
[07:11] <fotoflo> vlc is rad
[07:11] <fotoflo> i use it on windows
[07:11] <zero> n2diy, when i try to use the make command terminal says make command not found
[07:11] <jordan> Hey I am having some problems with ubuntu
[07:11] <Dark_Nexus> i prefer amarok
[07:11] <Kris_S> Anyone have any hints on installing beryl with dapper?  Everything I try to add gives me an "ubuntu" equivalent instead of the actual version
[07:11] <fotoflo> but not for audio
[07:11] <h3xis> zero, run sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:12] <trying2install> fotoflo: yeah I'm honestly starting to think you have the right idea.
[07:12] <LameBMX> trying2install, delete hda3 so its just free space .. then select hda .. and check for largest freespace
[07:12] <Jordan_U> I no longer have a URL bar in Firefox
[07:12] <h3xis> fotoflo, audacious is winamp like
[07:12] <n2diy> zero, run updatedb, and try it again.
[07:12] <jordan> My internet connection is unusally slow
[07:12] <fotoflo> i remember using xmmc about 6 years ago, downloading that
[07:12] <h3xis> get it missingXtension ?
[07:12] <fotoflo> no good?
[07:12] <trying2install> Lam_ thankyou.
[07:12] <h3xis> fotoflo, it's no longer maintained
[07:12] <wastrel> Jordan_U:  view > toolbars > navigation toolbar
[07:12] <missingXtension> nope its probly a module
[07:12] <jordan> My internet connection is only slow with ubuntu, now with windows
[07:12] <h3xis> fotoflo, audacious is the SAME just better
[07:12] <fotoflo> neither is soundjam - still the best for mac
[07:13] <missingXtension> it  happens as the kernel is booting
[07:13] <LameBMX> n e ways i was asking if anyone knows how to pep up vlc ... my first install it played vides nice .. they looked a bit crappy though
[07:13] <fotoflo> k
[07:13] <missingXtension> it does it at my generic kernel too
[07:13] <Jordan_U> wastrel: Thanks.
[07:13] <LameBMX> this time they are a bit stuttery here and there (bearable) but its like better than dvd resolution on a normal TV
[07:13] <n2diy> h3xis: audacious hasl replaced audacity?
[07:13] <h3xis> no
[07:13] <h3xis> omg
[07:13] <h3xis> XD
[07:13] <n2diy> has*
[07:14] <arrenlex> n2diy: I believe they are different things entirely.
[07:14] <h3xis> theyre two diff programs n2diy
[07:14] <missingXtension> damn i guess ubuntu is not playing nice this whole week
[07:14] <Dark_Nexus> i've got my xinerama set up nicely working on dual monitors, my default resolution is on 1280x1024.  i also have a horizantal setup so each workspace spans both screens.  however, when i try to change resolutions, it will switch to a clone mode and display the same thing on both screens.  i've tried messing around with my xorg.conf file, but no luck.  any way to get it so that other resolutions will use the horizantal setup?
[07:14] <n2diy> Roger
[07:14] <missingXtension> dark_nexus: did u try running aticonfig --help it has a xinerama command
[07:15] <trying2install> LameBMX: seems to be working. ty. Hope it doesn't touch my other partitions.
[07:15] <LameBMX> trying2install, please note that linux will need at least 2 partitions ... / and swap (though i read somewhere about creating a swap file and mounting it as swap
[07:15] <Dark_Nexus> missingXtension, i have not, i will do that
[07:15] <LameBMX> trying2install, the linux tools are good for that stuff
[07:15] <trying2install> LameBMX: yeah have a 745 meg swap ready.
[07:15] <n2diy> Is audacious in the repos?
[07:15] <LameBMX> ahh cool cool
[07:15] <h3xis> n2diy, im not sure
[07:15] <missingXtension> i cant remember cause i have a aiw and my second display is tvout
[07:16] <wastrel> !audacious
[07:16] <h3xis> n2diy, you can check though :P
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audacious - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <LameBMX> i had 2GB swap file and never activated it lol
[07:16] <Kris_S> is there a way to get the ubuntu system to use real version numbers instead of the ubuntu versions?
[07:16] <LameBMX> 1gb ram though ...
[07:16] <n2diy> h3xis: yes, but I'm working with a problem now, so that will have to wait. :)
[07:16] <h3xis> n2diy, alright XD
[07:16] <LameBMX> havent touched swap yet ... heck saw ram touch 90% like once
[07:16] <trying2install> LameBMX: you find that with 1GB ram you don't need swap
[07:16] <pianoboy3333> What's a good program for burning dvds? Is there a good program for lightscribe?
[07:16] <trying2install> ?
[07:17] <h3xis> pianoboy3333, not sure about lightscribe but i think theres one built into gnome
[07:17] <LameBMX> trying2install, dont know .. this is like my 15th install in the past 2 weeks ..
[07:17] <missingXtension> well thanks for the help guys but debian has been nothing but troube for me ill try someone else
[07:17] <zero> n2diy, when i use the command u said, terminal says that it couldn't find build-essential
[07:17] <h3xis> pianoboy3333, i think it's called gnome bake? nero linux works too but neither have lightscribe support
[07:17] <LameBMX> i tend to break new things really fast till i figure out how to fix them
[07:17] <danny> hey guys, I just compiled from source Mplayer, I can watch a wmv file now, but theres no sound, and when I open the same wmf file in VLC theres sound but no video hehe, so any solutions ? thanx in advance
[07:17] <trying2install> I have 1GB or ram and I've run knoppix with noswap option. Seems to work ok.
[07:18] <madman91> danny: open both at once :D
[07:18] <pianoboy3333> h3xis: is nero linux made by nero? or they just named it nero linux
[07:18] <LameBMX> zero ... you have to enable extra repositories
[07:18] <h3xis> danny, do you have w32codecs installed?
[07:18] <danny> LOL
[07:18] <n2diy> zero, make said that?
[07:18] <LameBMX> and sudo apt-get update
[07:18] <h3xis> pianoboy3333, yes but it isnt free
[07:18] <zero> no
[07:18] <danny> yah wishful thanking :P
[07:18] <LameBMX> !repositories
[07:18] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:18] <danny> yes h3xis
[07:18] <zero> n2diy, when i tried to install the package
[07:18] <h3xis> danny, why did you install mplayer from source?
[07:18] <h3xis> it's in the repo
[07:18] <danny> caus when I tried to install the package
[07:18] <n2diy> zero, build-essentials told you that?
[07:18] <zero> n2, the build essential package
[07:18] <zero> n2, yes
[07:18] <danny> it always gave me an error message
[07:18] <h3xis> what kind
[07:19] <danny> okey wait
[07:19] <danny> im gonna try it again
[07:19] <n2diy> zero, hmm?
[07:19] <madman91> i have an ISSUE .. k3b eats all my processing power... my computer lags like a p2 .. when its roaring at its 64bit-ness
[07:19] <Lancellor> any tought about linux mint??     http://lt.k1011.nutime.de/
[07:20] <h3xis> 64bitness is godly
[07:20] <nigggg> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[07:20] <n2diy> Hey, why would build-essentials not install, pay attention zero.
[07:20] <h3xis> god that's so old
[07:20] <arrenlex> !ops
[07:20] <Lancellor> http://linuxmint.com
[07:20] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[07:20] <Tuxiscool> On trying to run an OpenGL program of mine, I get the error "Failed loading DPMSDisable: /usr/lib/libX11.so.6: undefined symbol: DPMSDisable" Anyone know a solution?
[07:20] <zero> n2, ive put the package and the folder inside the package, in both the main file system and on the desktop, but it says it cant find them, ive also tried adding the .tar.gz to it, but it still didnt work
[07:20] <wastrel> arrenlex:  he was automatically killed, no need to call the ops in :] 
[07:21] <arrenlex> Oh, was he? *looks*
[07:21] <LameBMX> hey is seveas a real person or just a chan control bot?
[07:21] <wastrel> real person
[07:21] <arrenlex> ...oops. My apologies.
[07:22] <LameBMX> arrenlex, is Seveas real?
[07:22] <wastrel> LameBMX:  he is real
[07:22] <JAyRULE> do you guys know how to connect to multiple servers in xchat?
[07:22] <HentaiSushi> lol
[07:22] <HentaiSushi> yes
[07:22] <LameBMX> !apt-cache
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-cache - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <HentaiSushi> go to connect and connect to another server
[07:22] <h3xis> JAyRULE, /server <server_addrress>
[07:22] <n2diy> Hey, I'm trying to help zero compile something, why would build-essentials not install, pay attention zero.
[07:22] <h3xis> n2diy, is it build-essential?
[07:23] <n2diy> h3xis: yes
[07:23] <zero> n2, i am
[07:23] <LameBMX> i just left him a message about adding something about !apt-cache search to the bot ... makes it a ton easier to find a package thanks to lots of packages including version number etd
[07:23] <zero> n2, you haven't said anything have you?
[07:23] <LameBMX> etc even
[07:23] <h3xis> n2diy, apt-cache search build-essential to see if the's there
[07:23] <arrenlex> LameBMX: You should suggest that in #ubuntu-ops.
[07:23] <LameBMX> oh k
[07:23] <zero> n2, whats the cmd for installing from cd?
[07:23] <cassidy> hey guys, does anyone know if its possible to get 3d acceleration to work with the x1950 pro from ati?
[07:24] <n2diy> h3xis: I think he has it, but he moved it, and now it won't play?
[07:24] <JAyRULE> HentaiSushi, h3xis MULTIPLE servers!  using mIRC, i used "/server -m <server address>" to connect to a new server without disconnecting from the current... cant do it with xchat
[07:24] <h3xis> n2diy, what's he trying to do, i havent been following XD
[07:24] <mdious> w00t new years eve in aus and yet again I am on the internet...mmmm...internet.....
[07:24] <cassidy> anyone at all?
[07:24] <JAyRULE> or at least, i dont know how
[07:24] <danny_> h3xis youre there ?
[07:24] <h3xis> JAyRULE, press ctrl+t to open a new server
[07:24] <h3xis> danny_, yes
[07:24] <n2diy> h3xis: zero?
[07:24] <wastrel> /newserver then in the new tab /server irc.whatever.net
[07:24] <danny_> it says broken packages at the end
[07:24] <cassidy> any help would be apreciated, i got the 8.32.5 drivers installed but theres no 3d acceleration
[07:24] <zero> h3, im trying to install build essential from a local file
[07:25] <danny_> when I apt-get install mplayer
[07:25] <fotoflo> link: cannot create link `music' to `My Music/': Operation not permitted
[07:25] <h3xis> zero, why not from the net?
[07:25] <h3xis> danny_, which packages? maybe do sudo apt-get -f install?
[07:25] <zero> h3, i dont have net access so i need to install this to install the driver for my modem
[07:25] <JAyRULE> wastrel AHHH thanks man!
[07:25] <h3xis> ah on sep computer?
[07:25] <zero> h3, whats the command for installing from cd?
[07:25] <JAyRULE> control t doesnt work
[07:25] <cassidy> anyone?
[07:25] <cassidy> lol
[07:25] <h3xis> zero, not sure, i dont install from cd :/
[07:25] <Lancellor> hey guys what do you think about linux mint please don't get ofend it
[07:26] <fotoflo> why cant i make a link? i sudo'ed and still no go
[07:26] <wastrel> fotoflo:  what command are you using
[07:26] <zero> n2, whats the cmd for installing from cd agin?
[07:26] <n2diy> zero, use our complete nicks, or we could miss your messages. Do you know that you can use "tab" for autocompletion?
[07:26] <danny_> h3xis : not specified : E: Broken packages
[07:26] <zero> n2diy, ok but man...its annoying ;) lol
[07:27] <h3xis> danny_, sounds like youve got a broken system :<
[07:27] <fotoflo> link
[07:27] <h3xis> danny_, im not sure how to handle that
[07:27] <zero> n2diy, plz explain the tab
[07:27] <fotoflo> invalid cross-device link
[07:27] <fotoflo> that happens if i try to cross devices
[07:27] <h3xis> zero, type the first few letters of the person's nick and then press tab
[07:27] <zero> n2diy, ok
[07:27] <h3xis> zero, it's called nick auto completion
[07:27] <danny_> umm
[07:27] <fotoflo> and if i dont, i get a diffrent error
[07:27] <danny_> I can always reinstall
[07:27] <n2diy> zero, type n2, and then hit the "tab" key, what happens?
[07:27] <danny_> im starting linux here
[07:27] <h3xis> danny_, sounds like a good idea
[07:28] <zero> n2diy, i c, what is the command for installing from cd?
[07:28] <madman91> i have an ISSUE .. k3b eats all my processing power... my computer lags like a p2 .. when its roaring at its 64bit-ness
[07:28] <n2diy> zero: installing what from cd?h
[07:28] <zero> n2diy, in general
[07:29] <plyp_werk> madman91: are you running i386 versions instead of amd64 versions?
[07:29] <seanzer> madman91: try installing a different version of k3b
[07:29] <zero> n2diy, installing a build from a cd rom
[07:29] <seanzer> h3xis: try sucking my dick
[07:29] <Innomen> Hello all
[07:29] <h3xis> zero, i'm not familiar but check google, i think it's like deb-cd or something?
[07:29] <n2diy> zero, beats me? :)
[07:29] <wastrel> !language seanzer
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language seanzer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <h3xis> hahahah
[07:29] <wastrel> bah
[07:29] <h3xis> pwnd
[07:29] <seanzer> ^^
[07:29] <seanzer> <3
[07:29] <h3xis> <3
[07:29] <zero> n2diy, i thought u said it earlier :? nevermind
[07:29] <wastrel> !language | seanzer
[07:29] <ubotu> seanzer: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:29] <madman91> plyp_werk: i dont think so
[07:29] <wastrel> mmm |
[07:30] <madman91> seanzer: how would i do that?
[07:30] <seanzer> madman91: well, I suppose there's the package manager or the cli method using apt-get
[07:30] <seanzer> madman91: couldn't tell you exactly, i don't use ubuntu
[07:30] <madman91> seanzer: its the newest package
[07:30] <Innomen> Behold the greatest threat to the adoption of open source, the irate semi skilled teen :)
[07:30] <h3xis> Innomen, what?
[07:31] <n2diy> zero, I have a great memory, but it is short. :) If you can find it on the CD just right click on it , and open it.
[07:31] <seanzer> madman91: are there past versions or experimental versions you could use?
[07:31] <wastrel> <3 innomen  :] 
[07:31] <madman91> seanzer: yea i guess
[07:31] <Innomen> Question, will extension developed for windows firefox port to ubuntu? I'm just reading at this point, i havent tried it yet.
[07:31] <madman91> plyp_werk: how can i check
[07:31] <seanzer> Innomen: most do, some don't
[07:31] <Innomen> h3xis: scrool up if you didnt "hear" me
[07:31] <madman91> Innomen: some of them
[07:31] <Innomen> seanzer: thank you very much :)
[07:31] <seanzer> Innomen: things that are plugins for windows functions obviously don't port over very well
[07:31] <zero> IdleOne, could you help me please
[07:31] <h3xis> Innomen, i read it. and it made no sense
[07:31] <Innomen> right, "at all" wqs what i was after
[07:32] <Innomen> h3xis: thats not my problem
[07:32] <seanzer> h3xis: you're a jerk.
[07:32] <seanzer> :)
[07:32] <h3xis> :)
[07:32] <h3xis> Innomen, yeah, it's yours :<
[07:32] <n2diy> zero, are you dumping me and h3xis?
[07:32] <zero> n2diy, no, he just knew how to do the cd thing
[07:32] <pluto> Can someone tell me what could cause linux to stop allowing me to burn CDs?
[07:32] <seanzer> nooo way
[07:32] <Innomen> h3xis: you failing to understand me is your problem because i have no vested intrest in you understanding me, its much like roaches and math, its thier problem
[07:32] <seanzer> ROFL
[07:33] <h3xis> omg Innomen
[07:33] <h3xis> dude i was KIDDING
[07:33] <zero> n2diy, and maybe he knows the command for installing from disk as well
[07:33] <h3xis> lmao you took the time to type that out
[07:33] <lovloss> can kubuntu people use #ubuntu much? it has such a great community
[07:33] <h3xis> lovloss, dont see why not
[07:33] <Innomen> h3xis: tone is lost on irc, sarcasm and dry wit dont carry well, in that case i apologize :)
[07:33] <proqesi> lovloss: sure, as long as it's not kde problems  :)
[07:33] <lovloss> ok ^-^
[07:33] <trying2install> pluto any number of things. Are you getting any errors when you try to burn?
[07:33] <Innomen> h3xis: Its no problem i love reading my own text :)
[07:33] <h3xis> Innomen, XD
[07:34] <seanzer> i think i have to turn down this viscosity
[07:34] <seanzer> my desktop is raining like crazy
[07:34] <h3xis> turn this down
[07:34] <seanzer> wow
[07:34] <Innomen> seanzer: i picutred it running off the table
[07:34] <n2diy> zero, just funning with ya.
[07:34] <lovloss> I had to switch because i wanted to use kleansweep and kdevelop, and its annoying runningt them often in the wrong gui... they complain :P
[07:34] <pluto> I can't write through K3B, Gnomebaker, or the write to disk option. I get cdraro unknown error through k3b
[07:34] <seanzer> Innomen: not quite, it's beryl going mad crazy
[07:35] <Innomen> <---<neo-lamer define "beryl"
[07:35] <seanzer> i was showing my ganja m8 this cool plugin
[07:35] <seanzer> and messed with my settings
[07:35] <seanzer> :(
[07:35] <Innomen> ahhh
[07:35] <zero> n2diy, yeah its all fun and games until someone gets cut... :) lol
[07:35] <seanzer> www.youtube.com
[07:35] <h3xis> Innomen, beryl is all that fancy 3d "crap"
[07:35] <Innomen> my condolences
[07:35] <seanzer> not crap
[07:35] <h3xis> it is.
[07:35] <seanzer> it speeds up your computer
[07:35] <zero> n2diy, jk :P
[07:35] <seanzer> by creating worm holes
[07:35] <Innomen> h3xis: crap is subjective, but i tend to agree, i'm a 2d guy myself, that whole z axis messes with me
[07:35] <seanzer> because it heats up your video cards and cpu so much
[07:35] <n2diy> zero, yeh, gotta watch my +/-
[07:35] <pluto> I mean I wrote 4 DVDs yesterday, but not crap today. .
[07:36] <lovloss> beryl *does* speed up some processors ive found.
[07:36] <seanzer> i hope you guys aren't engineers
[07:36] <h3xis> Innomen, dont care much for eyecandy :/
[07:36] <lovloss> but it can be turned off anyway
[07:36] <wastrel> i'm not an engineer!
[07:36] <zero> n2diy, yep... this is taking like 4 hours...
[07:36] <seanzer> i wish you could see this raining
[07:36] <seanzer> it's crazy
[07:36] <n2diy> !volunteers |seanzer
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about volunteers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <seanzer> and i have the planets orbiting
[07:36] <seanzer> i'm in a solar system
[07:36] <seanzer> crazy
[07:36] <Innomen> i'm moving to something open source since i'd be forced to upgrade to vista eventually anyway, so, is ubuntu the choice for me?
[07:36] <h3xis> you on the pipe again?
[07:36] <Innomen> it seems like the best
[07:37] <zero> n2diy, ive tried doing ubuntu 3 times now... all with this same result
[07:37] <h3xis> Innomen, psst....debian
[07:37] <Innomen> h3xis: dont discriminate, crack head are people too.
[07:37] <h3xis> i guess :/
[07:37] <pluto> I might have to go to vista since Ubuntu HATES my hardware :(
[07:37] <n2diy> !patience |seanzer
[07:37] <ubotu> seanzer: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:37] <wastrel> Innomen:  give the livecd a try?
[07:37] <Innomen> h3xis: isnt ubuntu based on debian?
[07:37] <h3xis> yeah
[07:37] <wastrel> Innomen:  i like ubuntu quite a bit.
[07:37] <LameBMX> seanzer, lucky .. neither of those are workin for me now lol
[07:37] <Innomen> wastrel: its downloading as we speak
[07:37] <seanzer> depends what you mean by based on debian
[07:37] <n2diy> zero, roger that, hang in there.
[07:37] <h3xis> Innomen, it's fine. i just prefer debian
[07:37] <wastrel> it's basically debian but with a guaranteed release cycle :] 
[07:38] <Innomen> is it rexource heavy? can i run it on a 266 laptop?
[07:38] <seanzer> it's all the same thing
[07:38] <LameBMX> the water plugin never worked .. and past couple iterations my skydome hasnt worked
[07:38] <wastrel> h3xis:  still waiting for etch?  ;] 
[07:38] <seanzer> you have a 266 laptop?
[07:38] <Innomen> seanzer: thats good to hear
[07:38] <h3xis> wastrel, i AM on etch. what now, sucka?!
[07:38] <pluto> Etch was pretty good when I tested it
[07:38] <Innomen> seanzer: in the living room its my test box basicly, new stuff goes there first to see if it melts
[07:38] <seanzer> no one is better than anyone for using a diff distro, we're basically fighting about our package management and repo lists
[07:38] <wastrel> i just installed debian on a 333 with 64 mb of ram
[07:38] <wastrel> running fluxbox wm it's decent
[07:38] <pluto> I just lacks a whole lotta repos that ubuntu just so happens to have
[07:39] <h3xis> seanzer, wrong * > fedora
[07:39] <Innomen> wastrel: that bodes well for me
[07:39] <wastrel> you could do the same with ubuntu
[07:39] <seanzer> well, i put gentoo on a 386 with 32mb of ram
[07:39] <seanzer> haha
[07:39] <gavina> After I installed ubuntu this time, a few of the symbol keys on the right hand of my keyboard don7t function properly (they act the same as other keys). I'm using a Japanese keyboard and it's set up properly (the same as before). Anyone know how I can fix this, maybe manually set them?
[07:39] <seanzer> h3xis: i wasn't including the proprietary corporate bloated mind control crap
[07:39] <lovloss> how long to fawn?
[07:39] <Innomen> "* > fedora" lmao adorable
[07:39] <n2diy> seanzer:  and what did you do with it? :)
[07:39] <Dicander> Where in the file hierarchy is the best place to put a bzipped archive with a program to install?
[07:39] <pluto> * > fedora is true.dat
[07:39] <seanzer> gavina: maybe reconfigure X
[07:39] <Innomen> LOL
[07:40] <wastrel> Innomen:  you probably won't want to run gnome or KDE on a 266
[07:40] <h3xis> right
[07:40] <h3xis> fluxbox is the way to go
[07:40] <Innomen> leet speak changed in the past couple years
[07:40] <lovloss> how is that "mezzo" thing :)
[07:40] <Innomen> true.dat thats so cute
[07:40] <gavina> seanzer: like... ./configure ?
[07:40] <wastrel> Dicander:  usually /usr/local is where you put stuff user-installed (rather than stuff that comes with the system)
[07:40] <pluto> Fluxbox doesn't support apps like gnome and kde
[07:40] <seanzer> n2diy: I used it to calculate PI and quantum level graphics
[07:40] <zero> anyone know how to install a package from hard disk?
[07:40] <h3xis> pluto, yes it does
[07:40] <Innomen> i remeber it getting kinda ghetto when i left, thats part of why i left
[07:40] <pluto> You can run KDE apps through Flux?
[07:40] <h3xis> pluto, as long as you have the libraries installed it will
[07:40] <h3xis> yes
[07:41] <pluto> Now that I didn't know
[07:41] <h3xis> ^^
[07:41] <n2diy> seanzer:  OOOKKKAAYY!!! :)
[07:41] <lovloss> anyone know if you can run gnome stuff with kde pretty easily? any ide what libraries i should grab?
[07:41] <pluto> Now... to kick this DVD burner to make it write...
[07:41] <Innomen> calculate pi
[07:41] <h3xis> lovloss, you can
[07:41] <Innomen> is there alot of money in that?
[07:41] <h3xis> lovloss, i think it's like kdebase or something?
[07:41] <lovloss> lol, *no one* is in #kubuntu
[07:41] <seanzer> 3.14159265358979
[07:41] <Innomen> cus it cant be fun
[07:41] <seanzer> 323844
[07:41] <pluto> I'm in kubuntu?
[07:41] <seanzer> something
[07:41] <wastrel> gnome apps will run in kde and vice versa
[07:41] <lovloss> im sure kde comes with kdebase...?
[07:41] <lovloss> okie
[07:42] <wastrel> you just need the proper libraries
[07:42] <thed00d> lovloss: I run gnome apps on KDE.  I think it's easier if you install gnome also.  apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:42] <wastrel> if you install with apt it will pull in all the necessary dependencies
[07:42] <Innomen> you people will be seeing alot of me
[07:42] <fotoflo> damn ive got so many questions
[07:42] <seanzer> Innomen: is that a threat?!!
[07:42] <n2diy> seanzer:  how long has it been cooking?
[07:42] <h3xis> ahahahah
[07:42] <Innomen> question, whats the gameing situation look like?
[07:42] <zero> is it possible to install a package from hdisk?
[07:42] <seanzer> omg where's my lighter
[07:42] <h3xis> Innomen, meh...
[07:42] <h3xis> Innomen, we dont speak of it.
[07:42] <Innomen> seanzer: heh, more like a warning, i'm a big baby so i'll ask alot of questions
[07:43] <fotoflo> how do i make a link (symlink?) across disks (like from a fat32 drive onto my home directory in linux)
[07:43] <wastrel> Innomen:  the livecd is Gnome based so will be quite slow on a 266, when you install you can use less resource-hungry GUI environments which will perform better on that hardware.
[07:43] <Innomen> h3xis: i see, is there reason to be hopeful int he future? would ubuntu be able to run say a VM type deal and have winxp inside it for say gaming purposes?
[07:43] <h3xis> oh yeah
[07:43] <wastrel> open source and closed source games are available for linux,
[07:43] <wastrel> and some games are playable with windows emulation
[07:43] <h3xis> Innomen, some people do that now
[07:44] <seanzer> n2diy: idk, i have fun with it seeing how slow math took and how much optimizations i have to do with code for things to run, it's amazing that you can run out of variable space...
[07:44] <wastrel> but windows still rules pc gaming.
[07:44] <zero> well seeya im going back the windows ;)
[07:44] <Innomen> lovely, because i *will* play spore, whatever it takes
[07:44] <h3xis> Innomen, most use cedega, which is what "winex" was
[07:44] <h3xis> spore <3
[07:44] <Innomen> all these diffrent things are overwhelming
[07:44] <seanzer> n2diy: but i've had it running and constantly up to date for about 10 years i guess
[07:44] <proqesi> Innomen: lots of cedega and free games
[07:44] <seanzer> before gentoo
[07:44] <thed00d> Innomen:  you'll need some heavy equipment to run games inside a vm
[07:44] <fotoflo> argg! my google is down
[07:44] <Innomen> thed00d i'm lucky there
[07:44] <gavina> My right square bracket key doesn't work properly (it thinks its another -- i seem to have 4 now) backslash key. Anyone know how I can fix this?
[07:45] <n2diy> seanzer:  roger that, when you solve pie, let me know, ok/
[07:45] <Innomen> i get regular hardware updates because of a family member's employer
[07:45] <seanzer> vagina: please direct questions to h3xis
[07:45] <h3xis> hahahah
[07:45] <magic_ninja> !bittorrent
[07:45] <ubotu> bittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 90 kB, installed size 556 kB
[07:45] <gavina> ?
[07:45] <seanzer> n2diy: what do you mean solve pi?
[07:45] <pluto> Gah... it recognizes that I've got a blank disc in, but no writing..
[07:45] <Innomen> detect the pattern
[07:45] <thed00d> Innomen: in that case send me your old hardware
[07:45] <seanzer> bittorrent is illegal
[07:45] <andre> hello
[07:45] <pluto> No it isn't seanzer
[07:45] <fotoflo> bittorrent is not illegal
[07:45] <h3xis> hahaha
[07:46] <seanzer> oh, ok!
[07:46] <pluto> Using it to pirate is.
[07:46] <fotoflo> sharing copyrighted material is illegal
[07:46] <pluto> Echo?
[07:46] <Innomen> thed00d: part of the deal is sending the old back :/ its like a rental program almost, my condolences
[07:46] <pluto> ;)
[07:46] <seanzer> noo, that's legal.. i do that all the time
[07:46] <Innomen> fotoflo: dont forget fun
[07:46] <n2diy> seanzer: the formula for the radius of a circle
[07:46] <fotoflo> Innomen,
[07:46] <andre> sorry to cut in but what is an easy and very good emulator to run windows pc games
[07:46] <Innomen> fotoflo,
[07:46] <h3xis> cedega
[07:46] <thed00d> Innomen: oh well, had to ask :)
[07:46] <h3xis> andrew
[07:46] <h3xis> andre*
[07:46] <Innomen> thed00d: and i dont blame you at all
[07:46] <Innomen> :)
[07:47] <fotoflo> Innomen, illegal and fun are synonymous
[07:47] <seanzer> n2diy: um, i got to like 500,000 digits and stopped and went on to quantum graphics..
[07:47] <Innomen> fotoflo: I like you
[07:47] <h3xis> uh oh
[07:47] <h3xis> irc love
[07:47] <fotoflo> lol
[07:47] <seanzer> h3xis: kiss me
[07:47] <n2diy> seanzer: roger that.
[07:47] <HentaiSushi> :S
[07:47] <andre> sorry
[07:47] <Innomen> philosophical quesiton, is that because they outlaw things that are already fun or is it because outlawing something Makes it fun?
[07:47] <seanzer> ^^
[07:48] <seanzer> that has nothing to do with it
[07:48] <pluto> WTF.. Cannot write disc operation not permitted.
[07:48] <Innomen> both is a cheap answer, but probably correct
[07:48] <seanzer> outlawing things is a form of control
[07:48] <seanzer> to keep culture with in a norm
[07:48] <h3xis> pluto, sounds like an issue with permissions
[07:48] <seanzer> we have to make something bad
[07:48] <proqesi> pluto: did you try sudo?
[07:48] <fotoflo> hey so are there any linux ebooks i can download and print?
[07:48] <thed00d> I get my jollies by not paying parking tickets
[07:48] <h3xis> puto can you, as a user, use /dev/whatever-writing-device-is?
[07:48] <h3xis> pluto*
[07:48] <seanzer> fotoflo: printing wou ld be a big waste of paper
[07:48] <fotoflo> i like printed books
[07:48] <n2diy> pluto, what are you trying to write to?
[07:48] <madman91> seanzer: http://www.eveandersson.com/pi/digits/1000000.txt pi to the million
[07:48] <proqesi> pluto: has the cd already been written to?
[07:49] <Innomen> seanzer: I've been termed a subversive author, i can comment extensivly on control mechanisms as they relate to law, but the question still stands, which came first, the funness or the law :)
[07:49] <vvlaw_> i can't open the soft,it show the errors
[07:49] <vvlaw_> b7fde000-b7fe0000 rw-p 00018000 03:03 276918     /lib/ld-2.4.so
[07:49] <fotoflo> and i have a guy from sichuan who photocopies books for me for like .2 cents a page
[07:49] <vvlaw_> bfb03000-bfb18000 rw-p bfb03000 00:00 0          [stack] 
[07:49] <vvlaw_> ffffe000-fffff000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0          [vdso] 
[07:49] <h3xis> Innomen, your geek speak makes me horny
[07:49] <pluto> Well.. as of yesterday, I could write discs as my user, now I can't even do it as a root. No proqesi, it knows its a blank. I'm trying to write an image to a CDR. I've got 4 images, none of them write, and I can't make a data CD
[07:49] <andre> too much fun caused the law
[07:49] <Innomen> h3xis: i try to be useful :)
[07:49] <fotoflo> andre: i fought the law
[07:49] <Innomen> andre: intresting
[07:49] <h3xis> teh law
[07:49] <Innomen> fotoflo: and the law won?
[07:50] <fotoflo> nah
[07:50] <fotoflo> i expatriated
[07:50] <pluto> I fought the law, and the law made bubbah my cellmate.. Now I don't sit down.
[07:50] <seanzer> Innomen: imo, mostly law came first, but there still are those that were too much fun and the law had to come
[07:50] <h3xis> hahahah pluto
[07:50] <seanzer> POT FOR EXAMPLE
[07:50] <seanzer> .. oops
[07:50] <Rookie_> !offtopic
[07:50] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:50] <n2diy> is the channel getting weird, or should I go lay down?
[07:50] <Innomen> one thing i;'ve learned is that the law is a plastic entity, nothing in it is absolute because its all open to interpertation
[07:50] <thed00d> pluto: tell bubbah I said word
[07:50] <fotoflo> less law, no taxes
[07:50] <seanzer> okaiez let's goo
[07:50] <h3xis> haha i saw the off topic scream coming
[07:50] <Innomen> n2diy: my fault
[07:50] <fotoflo> but the same old ADSL
[07:51] <andre> sorry i just new at this linnux stuff i dont know how to address my question to one individual
[07:51] <seanzer> wasting bandwidth
[07:51] <fotoflo> only problem is no google ---
[07:51] <h3xis> andre, just say it ;)
[07:51] <seanzer> don't address it to oneo individual
[07:51] <Innomen> andre: ditto
[07:51] <seanzer> we're a family
[07:51] <fotoflo> no wikipedia
[07:51] <seanzer> of anarchists
[07:51] <Innomen> can i be the uncle no one visits?
[07:51] <HentaiSushi> >:D
[07:51] <seanzer> everything is free, but you have to share
[07:51] <proqesi> pluto: did you try burning an image after booting from the liveCD?
[07:51] <HLM> !spamassassin
[07:51] <ubotu> spamassassin: Perl-based spam filter using text analysis. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.4-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 938 kB, installed size 2992 kB
[07:51] <n2diy> defunt burner? whatz that?
[07:51] <Innomen> see a lack of answer here is a good thing
[07:51] <proqesi> n2diy: defunct
[07:52] <mbb> !firestarter
[07:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:52] <pluto> Thats hopefully my next step proqesi. If that worked, what wuld I need to reconfig?
[07:52] <andre> which is a good emulator i would like to play medal of honour on my linux box
[07:52] <pluto> would?*
[07:52] <h3xis> andre, cedega
[07:52] <n2diy> ok
[07:52] <h3xis> andre, but it is not easy to get a hold of
[07:52] <andre> cedega
[07:52] <fotoflo> !google cedega
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google cedega - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <pluto> andre, cedega or dual boot. Dual boot sadly doe not work well
[07:52] <pluto> cedega is available on demonoid.
[07:52] <Dark_Nexus> i'm having an issue with my display set up.  i am using an ati radeon card and ati's proprietary drivers.  on my native resolution of 1280x1024, i have a horizontal setup so that a workspace will be displayed accros both screens.  when i attempt to change the resolution however, i lose the horizontal setup, and get put into a clone setup, where both screens display the same thing.  i've tried messing around with my xorg.conf file, but
[07:52] <seanzer> dual boot works perfectly fine
[07:53] <thed00d> andre: I know someone who plays WOW on wine
[07:53] <h3xis> dual boot is a pain in my ass
[07:53] <Innomen> murchadh: awww, thank you :)
[07:53] <andre> what about vmware and xen
[07:53] <seanzer> wow, he typed that out a loooooooong time
[07:53] <h3xis> yeah
[07:53] <seanzer> depends on your video card and sound
[07:53] <pluto> I don't think Dark_Nexus is finished yet...notice the hanging but?
[07:53] <fotoflo> yah, googles back up
[07:53] <murchadh`> Innomen: ?-)
[07:53] <Innomen> google is an illusion
[07:53] <Dark_Nexus> oh, i'm done :)
[07:53] <seanzer> andre: do you have a vt cpu?
[07:54] <andre> how does it work wine
[07:54] <seanzer> let's bring down gentoo
[07:54] <seanzer> o wait, this is freenode
[07:54] <seanzer> rofl
[07:54] <andre> vt cpu
[07:54] <andre> no
[07:54] <Dark_Nexus> also tried fiddling around with aticonfig, and still no luck
[07:54] <Dark_Nexus> any idea what's up anyone?
[07:54] <andre> dont know
[07:54] <Dark_Nexus> i would really appreciate the help
[07:54] <h3xis> andre, once you install it, you run wineconf (i think) and then wine <app.exe>
[07:54] <hatter438> do the proprietary ati drivers support "rotate" option in X11?
[07:54] <seanzer> Dark_Nexus: how much did you fiddle around with aticonfig?
[07:54] <n2diy> seanzer: your are easy to entertain, no?
[07:54] <Dark_Nexus> i tried use --resolution
[07:55] <Dark_Nexus> using*
[07:55] <Innomen> i expect my machine to have a seizure when i begin really useing this stuff
[07:55] <seanzer> h3xis: or winecfg
[07:55] <Dark_Nexus> and it can't find the monitors i specify, because i've changed the default identifiers
[07:55] <h3xis> yeah i dont remember it's been a few years
[07:55] <proqesi> Dark_Nexus: is your video card supported?
[07:55] <seanzer> Dark_Nexus: haha, sounds like a pickle, try clearing out your xorg and sorting out what's what
[07:55] <h3xis> Innomen, it'll have more than a seizure
[07:55] <Innomen> Dark_Nexus: oh good job *rolls eyes*
[07:55] <Innomen> j/k
[07:55] <Dark_Nexus> yes the video card is supported
[07:55] <Innomen> i have no idea whats going on
[07:55] <Innomen> h3xis: i dont doubt that
[07:56] <seanzer> me neither, i'm too high
[07:56] <Dark_Nexus> it works fine on 1280x1024, just not on any other resolution
[07:56] <Innomen> should i get a fire extinguisher?
[07:56] <h3xis> haha pickles make noises?
[07:56] <Innomen> h3xis: if you throw them hard enough
[07:56] <h3xis> :O
[07:56] <seanzer> this rain needs to slow down
[07:56] <seanzer> it's stimulating my brain too much
[07:56] <h3xis> your "Brain"
[07:56] <proqesi> Dark_Nexus: 1280x1024 is a resolution that video cards will support with generic Ubuntu video drivers
[07:56] <Innomen> seanzer: go watch tv, that'll slow it down
[07:57] <n2diy> Innomen: yes, everyone should have one.
[07:57] <Innomen> i won a tv, but is just a monitor for my dvd/ps2
[07:57] <Innomen> i havent had cable in 8 years
[07:57] <thed00d> seanzer: drugs will make you gay
[07:57] <h3xis> thed00d, too late
[07:57] <fotoflo> ok, what if you dont wanna play games, but you wanna run windows apps on linux, is there a good way to do that?
[07:57] <Dark_Nexus> proquesi, i am sure it is using ati drivers because i couldn't get anything to be displayed until i installed ati's drivers
[07:57] <h3xis> fotoflo, wine
[07:57] <n2diy> thed00d: ok!/
[07:58] <fotoflo> apt-get install wine ?
[07:58] <Innomen> h3xis: you know all about this dont ya
[07:58] <h3xis> fotoflo, maybe?
[07:58] <proqesi> !wine | fotoflo
[07:58] <ubotu> fotoflo: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:58] <h3xis> Innomen, i do.
[07:58] <Innomen> why?
[07:58] <h3xis> seanzer told me everything
[07:58] <Innomen> like how did you get here?
[07:58] <Dark_Nexus> proqesi, i've also specified in xorg.conf to use ati's drivers
[07:58] <h3xis> well
[07:58] <h3xis> i arrived on an elevator
[07:58] <Innomen> i got into computers because i write very badly in terms of penmanship and then dad got a job in there
[07:58] <Innomen> then games/warez etc
[07:58] <Innomen> how did you get here?
[07:59] <h3xis> what is here?
[07:59] <proqesi> Dark_Nexus: and they had no problem working when you rebooted?
[07:59] <Innomen> good question
[07:59] <Innomen> but thats for another time
[07:59] <Innomen> :P
[07:59] <Dark_Nexus> proqesi, yes, they are working fine
[07:59] <Innomen> like into open source
[07:59] <Innomen> why you
[07:59] <h3xis> oh
[07:59] <h3xis> redhat 7.2
[07:59] <seanzer> well
[07:59] <seanzer> see
[07:59] <n2diy> ..--..  ?
[07:59] <seanzer> i met h3xis at a n3rd camp
[08:00] <h3xis> hahaha
[08:00] <seanzer> and we knew we were meant for each other
[08:00] <Innomen> they have nerd camps?
[08:00] <h3xis> yeah
[08:00] <seanzer> but we were on opposing teams
[08:00] <seanzer> so we had to have this forbidden love
[08:00] <seanzer> and i'd show him some cool linux stuff and he'd show me his stuff
[08:00] <h3xis> -_-
[08:00] <Innomen> always with the homo erotisism
[08:00] <Dark_Nexus> proqesi, i've also specified display resolutins for each monitor in xorg.conf using SubSection "Display" Modes etc
[08:00] <Innomen> that started in the mid 90s
[08:00] <seanzer> does it turn you on?
[08:01] <Innomen> probably because of tension associated with advetsing really kicking in the "you must be fucking a girl to have human worth" campagn
[08:01] <Innomen> it facisnates me
[08:01] <h3xis> man
[08:01] <h3xis> im disappointed
[08:01] <h3xis> no offtopic yell yet
[08:01] <pianoboy3333> When burning like a movie dvd, do you have to do something special? ie, when I put like forrest gump in, I have totem open it up, but I just made one as a data dvd, and when I put it in, totem doesn't open it up :(
[08:01] <Innomen> sorry
[08:01] <n2diy> h3xis: --- -.-
[08:01] <seanzer> Innomen: have you been to orange county, cali?
[08:01] <h3xis> Innomen, no please continue.
[08:01] <Innomen> no i havent
[08:01] <Innomen> and ok
[08:01] <h3xis> orange you glad i didnt say banana
[08:02] <cyphase> i've installed apache, mysql, php and phpmyadmin, but when i try to open phpmyadmin in a browser, it tries to download a phtml file. how do i fix that?
[08:02] <seanzer> that is homo eroticism to t he max
[08:02] <ozzloy> i have a "logitech quickcam for notebooks pro" which is listed as supported here, but i can't get the linux-uvc driver in apt.  http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[08:02] <andre> totem is not good i used gxine and it works great
[08:02] <h3xis> ha, finally someone who agrees
[08:02] <Innomen> before the mid 90s the hacker community (of which lay people would consider you all a prt) there was very little reffrence ot sexuality as a cultural element, sure there was pr0n and the like but not all this "gay" speak
[08:02] <h3xis> i hate totem
[08:02] <ozzloy> there's a debian package, but i can't find an ubuntu one.  any help?
[08:03] <Dark_Nexus> proqesi, should i be doing something different in my xorg.conf?
[08:03] <andre> so do i i just removed it
[08:03] <seanzer> i enjoy mplayer soo much though
[08:03] <n2diy> h3xis: ..--.. totem
[08:03] <h3xis> Innomen, dude, ascii pron and gif pron was k-rad
[08:03] <Innomen> i wonder what exactly triggered it, of course its probably a confluence of events
[08:03] <Innomen> heheh i'ma  story man myself, yay for alt.*censored*.soc
[08:04] <h3xis> mmm the days of BBS
[08:04] <h3xis> and my sweet, sweet rs232 modem
[08:04] <Innomen_> wow that was fun
[08:04] <Innomen_> anyway
[08:05] <h3xis> doppleganger!
[08:05] <seanzer> lol
[08:05] <andre> hey gents how do you save all the internet address that are posted
[08:05] <seanzer> h3xis: alfa ninjas are attacking.
[08:05] <h3xis> uh oh
[08:05] <seanzer> h3xis: Awaiting command.
[08:05] <andre> on this channel
[08:05] <American-Tech> Hello, I am trying to install wirless drivers for my laptop using ndiswrapper. It wants a inf file but the window drivers are packed in exe file
[08:05] <h3xis> andre, copy/paste?
[08:06] <seanzer> American-Tech: use unzip
[08:06] <thed00d> American-Tech: run the exe with wine
[08:06] <Innomen_> fight fight fight!
[08:06] <Innomen_> just kidding
[08:06] <andre> there used to be a way when i used ubuntu 5.10 but not with edgy
[08:07] <h3xis> isnt it called cab extractor
[08:07] <h3xis> or something
[08:07] <Innomen_> i use izarc, but thats windows
[08:07] <h3xis> check out the bans on this channel
[08:07] <Innomen_> man there are alot of appsd i'm gunna miss
[08:07] <Innomen_> "//mode $chan +b"
[08:07] <h3xis> Innomen_, i miss office 2003 but nobody here knows that
[08:08] <andre> it would save all them in one file you guys post and refer some pretty important stuf thats were i lean to run this ubuntu
[08:08] <Innomen_> h3xis: i wont tell anyone
[08:08] <h3xis> k
[08:08] <n2diy> Innomen, but where else can you help build the new ones?
[08:08] <h3xis> andre, just copy and paste them into a text file?
[08:08] <seanzer> h3xis: you ain't seen nothing yet, office 2007 is so much better
[08:08] <andre> ok
[08:08] <seanzer> h3xis: it works fine in wine though
[08:08] <Innomen_> n2diy: good point, of course
[08:08] <h3xis> does it
[08:09] <seanzer> andre: a lot of learning comes from guessing
[08:09] <Innomen_> 2k7 has dsiffrent shortcut keys
[08:09] <Innomen_> thats fucks with me
[08:09] <n2diy> Innomen, tnx, Happy New Years.
[08:09] <h3xis> linux doesnt have the aliasing windows does :/
[08:09] <Innomen_> n2diy: YW and to you
[08:09] <proqesi> Dark_Nexus: did you try setting to the new resolution from system->change resolution or xrandr?
[08:09] <seanzer> but it's so pretty and functional
[08:09] <Dark_Nexus> i am using xfce
[08:09] <Innomen_> why wont my clone go away?
[08:09] <n2diy> Innomen, YW, whatz that?
[08:09] <thed00d> I use google speadsheet.  Who needs office.
[08:09] <seanzer> ms is trying to get rid of file, edit, tools, help
[08:09] <Dark_Nexus> so i went through settings->display
[08:09] <Dark_Nexus> i have not tried xrandr
[08:10] <Innomen_> n2diy: "you're welcome"
[08:10] <h3xis> Innomen_, are you registered?
[08:10] <seanzer> thed00d: because google spreadsheet doesn't do anything that excel can.."
[08:10] <Innomen_> i didnt know this server had registration so, i guess not :) is it like chanserv or what
[08:10] <h3xis> yes
[08:10] <n2diy> Innomen, 10-4 :)
[08:10] <h3xis> i was gonna say to use ghost kill but i guess you cant :/
[08:11] <American-Tech> can't unzip a exe file
[08:11] <thed00d> seanzer:  yeah.  they should fix that
[08:11] <Innomen_> n2diy: OOOooo CB speak! the grand father of real time com stuff, "handles" and the like
[08:11] <seanzer> thed00d: why?
[08:11] <proqesi> American-Tech: .exe isn't a compression format
[08:11] <seanzer> proqesi: it is
[08:11] <h3xis> it is
[08:11] <Innomen_> proqesi: sometimes it is, its just a self extracting wrapper for a given compression
[08:12] <proqesi> nope, you're all wrong
[08:12] <Innomen_> god, blood in the water
[08:12] <seanzer> lol
[08:12] <h3xis> proqesi, youre in denial
[08:12] <proqesi> .exe is an executable
[08:12] <thed00d> seanzer: because the world needs a cross-platform web-based office suite
[08:12] <n2diy> Innomen, n2diy is my ham call but originally I was klr5461, on 11 meters.
[08:12] <seanzer> proqesi: so an executable can't be a container for a compressed file?
[08:12] <Innomen_> n2diy: Thats super cool
[08:12] <American-Tech> I understand but sombody here said to unzip the file
[08:12] <Innomen_> n2diy: have you seen skypecast?
[08:12] <proqesi> seanzer: an executable can do anything it wants when it runs
[08:12] <seanzer> thed00d: i can take a .txt file and chop off the .txt, but have i changed the contents?
[08:12] <wastrel> self-extracting zip files have .exe and can be unzipped
[08:13] <wastrel> with unzip <3
[08:13] <seanzer> i don't know why that went to thed00d
[08:13] <seanzer> lol
[08:13] <American-Tech> I am trying to do this
[08:13] <seanzer> i just hit tab
[08:13] <American-Tech> Hello, I am trying to install wirless drivers for my laptop using ndiswrapper. It wants a inf file but the window drivers are packed in exe file
[08:13] <Innomen_> proqesi: izarc treats many installer exe as archives
[08:13] <h3xis> American-Tech, i know this is cheating but are you near a dows box?
[08:13] <lovloss> adepts not working right in kubuntu... it lists things in grey so i cant click them, and sometimes if you look for som ething you get the category it should be in, but not the file... and nobody in #kubuntu cares :P
[08:13] <American-Tech> does box?
[08:13] <n2diy> Innomen, yep, and no on skypecast, what is that?
[08:13] <seanzer> proqesi: but linux wasn't designed to run the windows idea of an "executable"
[08:13] <h3xis> American-Tech, windows
[08:13] <goldfndr> American-Tech: if you are sure it's a zip file, try renaming from .exe to .zip
[08:13] <proqesi> Innomen_: that's because izarc knows how to find the archive in the executable
[08:13] <seanzer> proqesi: and we're talking about linux here, so .exe doesn't really matter, we don't use binaries with that extension
[08:14] <thed00d> seanzer: is that a zen coen?
[08:14] <proqesi> seanzer: well *I* do
[08:14] <wastrel> file filename.exe
[08:14] <h3xis> okay
[08:14] <Innomen_> n2diy: its basicly audio chat rooms, reminds me of the era of redboxing and party lines heheh
[08:14] <proqesi> seanzer: you can execute any extension on linux
[08:14] <h3xis> American-Tech, sudo apt-get install cabextract
[08:14] <seanzer> proqesi: yea, i love it
[08:14] <wastrel> koan
[08:14] <Innomen_> seanzer: that was good
[08:14] <seanzer> oh yea, is it a cab?
[08:14] <seanzer> haha
[08:15] <Innomen_> wastrel, yes very circular
[08:15] <pluto> Is there a way to reinstall cdrdao? I tried to apt-get remove it, but it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop too.
[08:15] <n2diy> Innomen, Fine business, I think I can do it, but I don't have a mic that will fit into my sound card! :/
[08:15] <wastrel> pluto:  those are unnecessary wrapper packages
[08:15] <seanzer> pluto: what about apt-get install cdrdao
[08:15] <h3xis> seanzer, i dont think so but i think cabextract pulls whatever is in .exes
[08:15] <wastrel> you can safely remove them
[08:15] <lovloss> oh i didnt have the universal package... ok
[08:15] <seanzer> h3xis: it's sex
[08:15] <h3xis> surprise!
[08:15] <pluto> It tells me that cdrdao is already installed. What's that mean wastrel?
[08:16] <h3xis> that it's already installed.
[08:16] <h3xis> buahahaha
[08:16] <Tuxiscool> pluto: --reinstall
[08:16] <seanzer> and usually, a .exe installer is just a compressed package with instructions for where to extract and some fancy pictures and words
[08:16] <pluto> LOL funny h3xis. That was actually two answers in one.
[08:16] <wastrel> pluto:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall cdrdao
[08:16] <n2diy> sex!? can I mount my file system, and fsck it ?
[08:16] <h3xis> hell yes you can dirty white boy!
[08:17] <Dark_Nexus> proqesi: should i be using xrandr?
[08:17] <seanzer> wth is xrandr
[08:17] <hepme> what dir should i install programs that i compile myself into?
[08:17] <American-Tech> Ok I did that. Do I need to reboot after install?
[08:17] <h3xis> hepme, why are you compiling programs?
[08:17] <fatlip> okay so i was just setting up gDesklets and i accidentally added some info bar
[08:17] <hepme> have to for some packages
[08:17] <fatlip> and now i cant get rid of it
[08:17] <fatlip> is there a way to kill individual desklets?
[08:18] <h3xis> hepme, i guess create a directory?
[08:18] <h3xis> hepme, maybe in /usr/local?
[08:18] <hepme> h3xis:  i know but where
[08:18] <hepme> does it matter
[08:18] <h3xis> hepme, it doesnt matter if you ran make install
[08:18] <Innomen_> heheheh
[08:18] <Innomen_> "n2diy>	sex!? can I mount my file system, and fsck it ?"
[08:18] <Innomen_> that was funny
[08:19] <Innomen_> my crappy old laptop wont boot off the cd i just bruned
[08:19] <Innomen_> burned
[08:19] <Innomen_> oh well i'll come up with soemthing
[08:19] <American-Tech> h3xis do i need to reboot after install cabextract?
[08:19] <h3xis> American-Tech, no
[08:19] <h3xis> American-Tech, im not sure if it will work but you can try
[08:19] <h3xis> American-Tech, it's cabextract <file.exe>
[08:19] <h3xis> i think
[08:19] <Asc> fatlip, you might try the thing where you can click on a program to kill it.  Dunno if it'll hit the desklet or the whole thing though.  If you really have to, you can just start a new profile.
[08:20] <Innomen_> has anyone tried izarc on his exe?
[08:20] <fatlip> yeah i have to start a new one
[08:20] <fatlip> how do i go about that
[08:20] <seanzer> hepme: /home/`whoami`/bin i guess is a neat place
[08:20] <fatlip> cuz you cant click the desklet
[08:21] <seanzer> hepme: you can make a dir anywhere, and add it to your vars
[08:21] <h3xis> izarc sounds like
[08:21] <h3xis> some medication made by apple
[08:21] <Innomen_> i wouldent know
[08:22] <Innomen_> its Crazi, backwards
[08:22] <Innomen_> so i downloaded it
[08:22] <Innomen_> I'm funny like that
[08:22] <American-Tech> Having trouble locating the program after I installed it
[08:22] <Innomen_> it handles like 45 types of compression
[08:22] <ozzloy> i have a "logitech for notebooks pro", trying to install drivers.  any suggestions?
[08:22] <h3xis> 45 types?!
[08:23] <Innomen_> dont make fun if you have one that hanbdles 40 kadrillion
[08:23] <ozzloy> it's listed here as compatible with linux-uvc, but i can't find a package for linux-uvc.  http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[08:23] <Asc> fatlip: okay, run 'gdesklets shell' and there'll be a menu
[08:23] <seanzer> !google December 21, 2012
[08:23] <seanzer> dang it
[08:23] <jpiccolo> when installing edgy do i have to do anything special to install it on a raid?
[08:24] <hepme> there's no way to watch .swf files in the console is there? (totally in the console, without being in X, that is)
[08:24] <seanzer> jpiccolo: you need to install the support for your raid chipset
[08:24] <seanzer> hepme: if you have a flash player, sure
[08:24] <seanzer> but ur right
[08:24] <seanzer> not without X
[08:25] <jpiccolo> !raid
[08:25] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:25] <hepme> how can i see jpg files in the console without X
[08:25] <h3xis> tips and tricks for raid
[08:25] <h3xis> that makes me excited
[08:25] <fatlip> i got it :)
[08:26] <h3xis> hepme, you cant
[08:26] <fatlip> thanks
[08:26] <seanzer> hepme: why can't u have X?
[08:26] <hepme> ive seen it before
[08:26] <Innomen_> h3xis: it works best when you spry it in places where they congregate, like under the sink
[08:26] <seanzer> framebuffer
[08:26] <hepme> with 'seejpeg' but i dont seem to have that in the repositories
[08:26] <Innomen_> wait, wrong raid
[08:26] <h3xis> you know
[08:26] <Dasnipa`> hepme, so download source and compile
[08:26] <hepme> i can have X but i'd rather not use it unless i have no choice, gnome and kde crash too much
[08:26] <thed00d> hepme:  you could convert the jps to ascii
[08:26] <Innomen_> or "Rait, rong, raid" as ling ling would say
[08:26] <h3xis> it took me 5 years to finally get used to RAID and not the bug spray when i heard it
[08:27] <h3xis> and now you brought it up :<
[08:27] <seanzer> oh that uses svgalib
[08:27] <Dasnipa`> hepme, gnome and kde crash too much?
[08:27] <hepme> they are for me
[08:27] <seanzer> if u have svga fb installed, u can install seejpeg
[08:27] <Dasnipa`> hepme, define too much
[08:27] <hepme> once a day
[08:27] <Innomen_> guys seriously thanx for being kind
[08:27] <hepme> sometimes 3 times a day
[08:27] <Dasnipa`> hepme, wtf are you doing to crash it?
[08:27] <Innomen_> i'm off for now, dont brutalize my clone, he's sensative
[08:28] <Innomen_> bbl
[08:28] <h3xis> bye
[08:28] <seanzer> hepme: that's a serious issue that maybe you should try to fix instead of ignore
[08:28] <hepme> NOTHING, just surfing the web and irc
[08:28] <seanzer> issues don't solve themselves
[08:28] <hepme> i dont know how to fix it, it was a fresh install, theres no reason it should happen
[08:28] <Dasnipa`> hepme, ive had over a year uptime running kde...
[08:28] <maddash> anyone here using openbox solo?
[08:28] <American-Tech> I installed cabextract, but it does not show up in programs (add/remove)
[08:28] <hyphenated> hepme: if it happened that frequently for most of the people in here, they wouldn't use it either
[08:28] <h3xis> American-Tech, it's a cli app
[08:28] <hyphenated> hepme: have you been installing updates?
[08:29] <maddash> American-Tech - open a command terminal. and type in "cabextract"
[08:29] <hepme> yes i installed all 77 right off the bat today after installing kubuntu
[08:29] <h3xis> American-Tech, you need to open terminal and run it as maddash said
[08:29] <ootput> hi guys (I've asked in #gaim,) is it possible to use an iconset for the status icons for gaim 2? I'd like to use tango or something similar, but atm, it's still using the default gaim icons
[08:29] <Dasnipa`> hepme, im pretty sure you shouldnt be blaming kde or gnome for your crashes.
[08:29] <maddash> is anyone here using openbox solo?
[08:29] <seanzer> hepme: you're expecting a lot for something free to work on any hardware right away
[08:29] <hyphenated> hepme: and how many times has it crashed today?
[08:29] <seanzer> all the time
[08:29] <ootput> maddash: yes
[08:29] <hepme> cli apps are way faster than gui ones too. i cp'd my files from my other partition and it went like 2000 times faster than using konquerer or nautilus
[08:29] <Tann> brb
[08:29] <maddash> ootput: no gnome, right? what's your panel app?
[08:30] <seanzer> you can cp using a term window
[08:30] <ootput> maddash: pypanel
[08:30] <seanzer> or you could always ctrl alt f1
[08:30] <Dasnipa`> hepme, im not against using console for most tasks... but there are many things that are a lot nicer to run in x
[08:30] <hepme> well that's what i'm doing, i ctrL+F7 into kde when i really need to use a gui, but the reest of the time i'm trying to stay out of it
[08:30] <ootput> maddash: fbpanel is another option
[08:30] <maddash> ootput: what does "sudo ps -aux" say? I want to know openbox's mem footprint, but my laptop's not w/me...
[08:30] <seanzer> uh
[08:30] <ootput> of course, you can always run console apps in terminal emulators in X ;)
[08:30] <seanzer> have you guys used top?
[08:30] <surface> hepme, agree
[08:30] <surface> for more cli or simple command line examples, you can check out http://lne.blogdns.com/lbe
[08:30] <cafuego_> maddash: why would you run ps as root?
[08:30] <ootput> best of both worlds
[08:30] <hepme> i really have no clue why kde is crashign on me, i tried finding out, there was nothin to go on, it was a fresh install
[08:31] <maddash> cafuego_, ootput: ah, sorry about the "sudo" - leave that out
[08:31] <h3xis> god doesnt like you
[08:31] <seanzer> cafuego_: usually X server is run as root?
[08:31] <seanzer> o
[08:31] <seanzer> openbox
[08:31] <maddash> ootput: yeah, fbpanel's rather lightweight (in the spirit of openbox) - but it lacks the applets I need
[08:31] <seanzer> lol
[08:31] <seanzer> nvm
[08:31] <hyphenated> hepme: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:31] <ootput> maddash: oh, then I doubt you'll like pypanel that much etiher
[08:31] <maddash> cafuego_: been sudo-ing a lot today on my friend's comp
[08:31] <cafuego_> seanzer: and?
[08:31] <ootput> ;)
[08:32] <cafuego_> sudo maddash: <heh>
[08:32] <seanzer> cafuego_: i should sudo sudo sudo su
[08:32] <JAyRULE> what virus scanners do you guys use?
[08:32] <seanzer> i use windows defender
[08:32] <h3xis> JAyRULE, are you serious
[08:32] <hepme> surface ethat link isnt working
[08:32] <h3xis> i have norton antivirus 2007 loaded into wine
[08:32] <element43> how do I force programs to use Firefox instead of opera?
[08:33] <h3xis> it hasnt caught a thing yet
[08:33] <ootput> JAyRULE: clamav on mailservers
[08:33] <sudo_maddash> ootput: so how much pmem is o-box using on your setup?
[08:33] <JAyRULE> h3xis yes why wouldnt i be
[08:33] <hyphenated> JAyRULE: antivirus scanners only make sense on mail server and fileserver setups
[08:33] <h3xis> element43, in your gnome prefs there's something called "preferred applications" there's a browser section - change it there
[08:33] <element43> h3xis, cheers
[08:33] <seanzer> h3xis: thx m8
[08:33] <hyphenated> JAyRULE: it's only because of windows that antivirus software is considered "normal" or "expected" on desktops
[08:33] <h3xis> nyuk nyuk
[08:33] <h3xis> spot of tea then?
[08:34] <seanzer> i like this malware hype
[08:34] <seanzer> why do people constantly fall for it
[08:34] <goldfndr> people like to be scared/afraid
[08:34] <JAyRULE> hyphenated so i wouldnt have to worry about that type of thing on linux systems, PERIOD?
[08:34] <h3xis> maddash youre my hero.
[08:34] <maddash> haha
[08:35] <seanzer> one guy was asking me how to set up ipchains so he could block all traffic except for http
[08:35] <seanzer> JAyRULE: if someone wants to get you, they'll get you
[08:35] <h3xis> i like a man who can use sudo with the flick of the wrist
[08:35] <ootput> maddash: 0.9% of my 1024MB apparently
[08:35] <hyphenated> JAyRULE: you can still get hacked/rooted, but that's from worms, not viruses, and updates are generally available within 3 days of exploits being found
[08:35] <seanzer> JAyRULE: a virus scanner doesn't do anything important if you're not like putting up popular websites like google
[08:36] <seanzer> h3xis: what about setting up your ftp account before you take your test?
[08:36] <h3xis> what?
[08:36] <seanzer> h3xis: noothing
[08:36] <h3xis> crazy bastards
[08:36] <JAyRULE> i just want my system to be protected... because ive been hacked before... but that was on a windows machine
[08:36] <seanzer> h3xis: did they have us use scp at nylf?
[08:36] <h3xis> lmao
[08:36] <h3xis> no.
[08:36] <seanzer> haha
[08:36] <American-Tech> damm no valid cabinets found
[08:36] <maddash> ootput: whoa. just underr 10 mb.
[08:36] <seanzer> you've been hacked?
[08:36] <seanzer> tell me about it
[08:37] <goldfndr> American-Tech: did you download this .exe from a public website?
[08:37] <American-Tech> gatway
[08:37] <American-Tech> gateway
[08:37] <JAyRULE> you know what i mean...my system has been hacked
[08:37] <maddash> goldfndr: "exe"? he's not linux-ing?
[08:37] <surface> hepme, maybe for now, coz taiwan earthquake affected internet across india, that web server is at malaysia
[08:37] <goldfndr> maddash: he's trying to "unzip" a ".exe" he downloaded
[08:38] <h3xis> JAyRULE, what incriminating evidence has led you to such an accusation, sir?
[08:38] <hepme> what's the diff between xorg and xfree86?
[08:38] <h3xis> hepme, xfree is deprecated
[08:38] <BHSPitMonkey> did someone overclock JAyRULE?
[08:38] <goldfndr> hepme: licensing, among other things
[08:38] <h3xis> someone stole his megahurtz
[08:38] <BHSPitMonkey> or run an embedded linux OS on him?
[08:38] <hepme> is there a linux troubleshooting guide that deals with most common problems
[08:38] <BHSPitMonkey> maybe they casemodded him! though it's not much of a hack
[08:38] <goldfndr> American-Tech: is "gateway" a public website?
[08:38] <sivaji_2009>  ple tell me about linux troubleshooting
[08:38] <seanzer> JAyRULE: i don't know what you mean, did someone physically access your computer and steal your files, then destroyed their trails so you didn't know for a while?
[08:38] <maddash> goldfndr: LOL
[08:39] <seanzer> JAyRULE: or was your mouse moving around and your internet slow?
[08:39] <American-Tech> yes I had to download the wireless window driver
[08:39] <h3xis> hepme, there's an ubuntu guide or something i think? might wanna check with google
[08:39] <goldfndr> American-Tech: url?
[08:39] <JAyRULE> hahh
[08:39] <JAyRULE> you guys guys are hilarious
[08:39] <h3xis> sweeet german botnets!
[08:39] <maddash> uh oh
[08:39] <h3xis> my FAVORITE
[08:39] <maddash> !op
[08:39] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[08:39] <h3xis> maddash SAVE ME
[08:39] <American-Tech> http://support.gateway.com/support/drivers/dlcenter.asp
[08:39] <ozzloy> weeee
[08:40] <hyphenated> JAyRULE: in general, best practises for linux don't include installing antivirus or personal firewall software. it's just a matter of installing updates as they arrive.
[08:40] <h3xis> American-Tech, give me a second and i'll get them for you
[08:40] <American-Tech> notebook,mx 6448,XP
[08:40] <sudo_maddash> !ops
[08:40] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[08:40] <sudo_maddash> damn ops
[08:40] <seanzer> which i've been trying to do, but you keep distracting me
[08:40] <sudo_maddash> !ubotu
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[08:40] <sudo_maddash> good god
[08:40] <JAyRULE> i dont need to explain... all i just need to know how to have linux protected
[08:40] <h3xis> sudo_maddash, make it stopppp
[08:40] <seanzer> try messaging?
[08:40] <seanzer> doesn't that have higher priority than channel
[08:41] <sudo_maddash> h3xis: 404 - no spinach left. need more spinach
[08:41] <hyphenated> JAyRULE: you're welcome to harden your system with a really strict iptables setup, and clamav for virus scanning, but it's probably only going to cause grief
[08:41] <thed00d> jAyRULE: you should be pretty safe with linux as long as you don't make a username/password test/test
[08:41] <seanzer> i want to see this your-freedom.de
[08:41] <seanzer> hahaha
[08:41] <hepme> i'm looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log but theres nothin that appears obivously as an error, just a lot of lines of stuff saying stuff. how can i tell which are the warning lines?
[08:42] <ozzloy> it's slowing down!
[08:42] <h3xis> awww :/
[08:42] <h3xis> American-Tech, what's the file name
[08:42] <goldfndr> American-Tech: the BCM40100.exe?
[08:42] <American-Tech> yes that is the file
[08:42] <ozzloy> the webcam is listed as supported.  i'd really appreciate any help actually getting pictures.  anyone?  0x08cb http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[08:42] <goldfndr> http://support.gateway.com/support/drivers/search.asp?ref=step&st=browse&platform=10022&model=10886&os=10406&type=10095 even
[08:42] <sivaji_2009>  ple tell me about linux troubleshooting
[08:42] <seanzer> doesn't exist
[08:42] <surface> maddash, popeye?
[08:42] <h3xis> sivaji_2009, like what
[08:43] <sudo_maddash> surface: not anymore. was fed poisoned spinach.
[08:43] <American-Tech> That is the file goldndr
[08:43] <JAyRULE> interesting...
[08:44] <seanzer> linux has troubleshooting?
[08:44] <h3xis> shoot my trouble
[08:44] <goldfndr> wtf? 76MB?!?!?!
[08:44] <h3xis> in soviet russia linux troubleshoots you!
[08:44] <sudo_maddash> LOL
[08:44] <fotoflo> hmm i just tried running photoshop in wine and my comp freaked out
[08:44] <JAyRULE> so, it's really just windows where people worry about protecting their pc.. what about macs?
[08:45] <sudo_maddash> in soviet russia windows troubleshoots you! with .22!
[08:45] <goldfndr> wtf does a wireless network driver need 76 MEGAbytes?
[08:45] <h3xis> JAyRULE, it's the same with macs. theyre completely diff systems
[08:45] <goldfndr> and that's compressed!
[08:45] <fotoflo> theres a big gray window that wont close
[08:45] <JAyRULE> i see
[08:45] <PirateHead> in soviet russia, config files edit vi...
[08:45] <seanzer> goldfndr: because it's a big giant packed driver set
[08:45] <seanzer> they're too lazy to split it up for you
[08:45] <fotoflo> err:shell:HCR_GetFolderAttributes HCR_GetFolderAttributes should be called for simple PIDL's only!
[08:46] <fotoflo> whats that mean?
[08:46] <American-Tech> I am sorry I don't have a anwer for that goldfndr
[08:46] <goldfndr> lol, not your fault, American-Tech
[08:46] <herat_soul> h3xis what happen?
[08:46] <h3xis> American-Tech, you failure! that is unacceptable!
[08:46] <h3xis> herat_soul, my lover!
[08:46] <JAyRULE> too bad there are some programs that can only be run on windows, otherwise i'd cease using xp
[08:47] <American-Tech> aye, that what she always says
[08:47] <herat_soul> ohn h3xis what that?
[08:47] <h3xis> herat_soul, good stuff :)
[08:48] <sudo_maddash> jayrule: wine?
[08:48] <Klick_> Hey all, can anyone help me out.  i want to flash my BIOS but i have no CDROM is there a way i can burn the .ISO file to a thumb drive?
[08:48] <herat_soul> what good stuff? h3xis
[08:48] <h3xis> herat_soul, your good stuff
[08:48] <seanzer> Klick_: do you have a lighter?
[08:49] <herat_soul> ? i can't understand h3xis
[08:49] <h3xis> herat_soul, nevermind :(
[08:49] <surface> Klick check out slax
[08:49] <herat_soul> what for h3xis?
[08:49] <goldfndr> American-Tech: did you already do an lspci like in http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation#Install_Windows_driver ?
[08:49] <seanzer> Klick_: this is cool, you can mount the file to a drive on linux
[08:49] <h3xis> herat_soul, you like tea?
[08:49] <seanzer> and then copy the files to a thumb drive
[08:49] <Klick_> surface, ive tried using myslax but it doesnt work cause the ISO isnt a slax distro
[08:49] <seanzer> if it's bootable
[08:49] <herat_soul> yes h3xis whY?
[08:49] <h3xis> just curious. i do too ^^
[08:49] <fotoflo> ok ive installed wine and ive decided i like beer better
[08:50] <fotoflo> wine wont run photoshop or word
[08:50] <Klick_> seanzer, what filesystem should i use?
[08:50] <American-Tech> No I have not
[08:50] <goldfndr> codeweavers wine?
[08:50] <seanzer> winfs
[08:50] <h3xis> hahaha
[08:50] <seanzer> :)
[08:50] <h3xis> i saw that coming
[08:50] <goldfndr> American-Tech: you really ought to
[08:50] <American-Tech> not sure what you mean
[08:50] <seanzer> auto i suppose
[08:51] <seanzer> man mount
[08:51] <Klick_> seanzer, what filesystem should i have on the thumb drive so it will boot the bios flash image off it instead of treating it like a normal data thumb drive
[08:51] <seanzer> Klick_: no clue, i've never tried to boot off a thumb drive
[08:51] <h3xis> Klick_, if youre burning it as an ISO it wont matter
[08:52] <seanzer> he can't apparently
[08:52] <h3xis> no
[08:52] <h3xis> i mean
[08:52] <seanzer> oh i know
[08:52] <goldfndr> American-Tech: you still have a shell open?
[08:52] <seanzer> haha
[08:52] <seanzer> wait
[08:52] <h3xis> "burning" the image
[08:52] <h3xis> onto the drive
[08:52] <seanzer> i got this
[08:52] <American-Tech> yes
[08:52] <devilsadvocate> can someone tell me the hardware requirements of running windows on vnc?
[08:52] <seanzer> hold on, i got an idea, you can do this through grub maybe
[08:52] <Klick_> h3xis,  right i have a .ISO file and I want to put the image on the thumb drive so i can boot off it, im thinking i need to use mkisofs or something
[08:52] <goldfndr> enter the command: lspci | grep -i broad
[08:52] <seanzer> what computer you have?
[08:52] <goldfndr> see if it finds a Broadcom wireless controller
[08:53] <seanzer> holy shit
[08:53] <seanzer> that was a close one
[08:53] <Klick_> seanzer, alienware 51m
[08:53] <h3xis> goldfndr, it's usually bcm
[08:53] <jpiccolo> ok so i installed dmraid but i still cant see my controller
[08:53] <goldfndr> oh, right, duh
[08:54] <American-Tech> Ok how do I do that in the shell?
[08:54] <PirateHead> does anybody here use Ubuntu on a reasonably high-end laptop?
[08:55] <h3xis> American-Tech, what are you trying to do? i havent been following along
[08:55] <h3xis> PirateHead, i used to
[08:55] <PirateHead> I'm looking for suggestions
[08:55] <American-Tech> Trying to install wireless driver
[08:55] <h3xis> PirateHead, 1.83ghz core duo, 1gb ram
[08:55] <surface> PirateHead, define high-end
[08:55] <American-Tech> using ndiswrapper
[08:55] <h3xis> American-Tech, alright, are you trying to find the chipset?
[08:55] <American-Tech> but the driver is in exe
[08:56] <American-Tech> and i need the inf
[08:56] <sudo_maddash> h3xis: is that a thinkpad?
[08:56] <h3xis> yes
[08:56] <h3xis> it is.
[08:56] <h3xis> t60
[08:56] <h3xis> REPRESENTIN.
[08:56] <PirateHead> h3xis has the idea - I want something with at least 2gb of ram, a dual-core processor if possible, etc
[08:57] <h3xis> American-Tech, is it the one you showed us on that gateway site?
[08:57] <American-Tech> yes
[08:57] <PirateHead> I do virtualization stuff a lot, and i'm getting sick of running with only 1gb of RAM
[08:57] <n-rated> I trying to complie ndsiwrapper on kubuntu but I getting errors about failed includes, can anyone help with that?
[08:57] <h3xis> American-Tech, give me a second and i'll extract the stuff for you
[08:57] <fotoflo> has anyone used wine with photoshop and/or word?
[08:57] <h3xis> n-rated do you have your kernel head files installed?
[08:58] <devilsadvocate> fotoflo, try OpenOffice.org/ Writer
[08:58] <n-rated> I just did the default install
[08:58] <n-rated> How do I install them?
[08:58] <h3xis> n-rated you need the header files
[08:58] <fotoflo> devilsadvocate, thanks, have that
[08:58] <American-Tech> I tried to it says no valid cabinets found when I tried using cabextract
[08:58] <devilsadvocate> fotoflo, you can also try Gimp for photo editing
[08:58] <n-rated> where do I get them?
[08:58] <fotoflo> i can try lots of things
[08:58] <fotoflo> but I want photoshop and word
[08:58] <goldfndr> American-Tech: if you "unzip" the BCM40100.EXE you'll get a file
[08:58] <h3xis> do uname -r first n-rated and note the kernel version. then do apt-cache search kernel-headers and match it up with your version and install them
[08:58] <goldfndr> (two actually)
[08:58] <fotoflo> i have both of those and they arent sufficient
[08:59] <goldfndr> and then cabextract might work on the WHQL file
[08:59] <jpiccolo> i cant burn a cd while booted into the live cd can i
[08:59] <American-Tech> ok I try that
[08:59] <goldfndr> I need to add another repository to my /etc/apt/sources.list - security.ubuntu just isn't enough
[08:59] <PirateHead> fotoflo - not sufficient how?
[08:59] <PirateHead> sorry I can't help with wine, but those are two pretty heavy apps
[09:00] <PirateHead> photoshop especially probably wouldn't be too responsive under wine
[09:00] <American-Tech> what a good program for unziping files on ubuntu?
[09:00] <sudo_maddash> h3xis: you lenovo traitor.
[09:00] <Tuxiscool> Does anyone know why the cursor changes between OpenGL apps and others?
[09:00] <PirateHead> but there are alternatives of varying quality, depending on what your specific needs are
[09:00] <h3xis> sudo_maddash, what?!
[09:00] <sudo_maddash> h3xis: haha your laptop isn't styled in the original thinkpad fashion.
[09:00] <fotoflo> PirateHead, not sufficient because i dont like using them
[09:00] <h3xis> sudo_maddash, :<
[09:01] <sudo_maddash> h3xis: what's that little protruding thingy on the right of the lcd?
[09:01] <h3xis> sudo_maddash, i have no "protruding thingy"
[09:01] <sudo_maddash> h3xis: forgive me for my jingoism, I'm using a t43
[09:01] <h3xis> ahhh
[09:01] <BHSPitMonkey> American-Tech, file-roller is the default one used...
[09:01] <PirateHead> fotoflo, if you want an exact duplicate of the user interface you're probably out of luck
[09:01] <sudo_maddash> http://www.thinkwiki.org/images/8/8e/ThinkPadT60.jpg
[09:01] <sudo_maddash> h3xis: http://www.thinkwiki.org/images/8/8e/ThinkPadT60.jpg
[09:02] <h3xis> sudo_maddash, yes
[09:02] <fotoflo> PirateHead, thats why i installed wine
[09:02] <PirateHead> I suggest using OSX, if you want to move away from windows but still use photoshop and office.
[09:02] <h3xis> sudo_maddash, although that bar sticking out on the right side is not there. that is an old model
[09:02] <sudo_maddash> h3xis: lower right side of the lcd panel...
[09:02] <fotoflo> i dont want a duplicate
[09:02] <n-rated> I will reboot into kubuntu and be back soon
[09:02] <h3xis> sudo_maddash, that is where the older models had the wlan antenna
[09:02] <fotoflo> PirateHead, i want the original
[09:02] <Skiz> crossover office is also an option
[09:02] <h3xis> sudo_maddash, now they are integraded into the lcd
[09:02] <sudo_maddash> h3xis: oh, so does it look more like this? http://www.thinkwiki.org/images/1/1c/ThinkpadT43P.JPG
[09:02] <h3xis> yes
[09:02] <fotoflo> PirateHead, i paid good money for it!
[09:02] <h3xis> that's exactly it
[09:03] <PirateHead> fotoflo, I don't think wine supports those apps yet. I would love to be corrected, but I think the work is still in progress
[09:03] <sudo_maddash> h3xis: but you've got a windows key somewhere, right?
[09:03] <h3xis> yes
[09:03] <fotoflo> PirateHead, the cd cost $1.20 at the market!
[09:03] <h3xis> sudo_maddash, there are no colors on the click buttons
[09:03] <h3xis> sudo_maddash, and the buttons above the keyboard are more "modernized"
[09:03] <goldfndr> American-Tech: have you tried typing "lspci" yet?
[09:03] <PirateHead> I hear you fotoflo, I believe it is a technical limitation at present.
[09:03] <h3xis> sudo_maddash, it's now called "think vantage" instead of "access ibm"
[09:04] <sudo_maddash> h3xis: ....windows key....
[09:04] <h3xis> sudo_maddash, yes?
[09:04] <American-Tech> cabextract opened the second exe file after I unzipped
[09:04] <fotoflo> ok
[09:04] <h3xis> sudo_maddash, it's in between alt and ctrl
[09:04] <Tuxiscool> Noone?
[09:04] <h3xis> on the left side
[09:04] <h3xis> it's small
[09:04] <fotoflo> PirateHead, ok thanks
[09:05] <sudo_maddash> h3xis: yeah, I noticed the alt button has been relegated to qwertyuiop status
[09:05] <ozzloy> h3xis: it's a "super" key
[09:05] <gaten> anyone know of a windows mobile vnc client that supports tunneling over ssh?
[09:05] <h3xis> ozzloy, yes
[09:05] <h3xis> American-Tech, if you wait, this driver is almost done downloading. i'll extract it in windows for you and host it somewhere ;)
[09:06] <PirateHead> welcome, fotoflo. I'm not a wine expert, do a search in wine mailing lists if you want to try some cvs stuff maybe
[09:06] <sudo_maddash> h3xis: are you running some default install of dapper w/gnome? how fast is it?
[09:06] <h3xis> sudo_maddash, im running debian
[09:06] <ozzloy> i have a webcam product id 0x08cb listed as supported on this page, how do i get it working? http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[09:07] <American-Tech> I got it h3xis
[09:07] <h3xis> alright
[09:07] <h3xis> you sure?
[09:08] <American-Tech> Yes, I had to extract from download exe file to get the next exe file which cabextact unpacked
[09:08] <h3xis> alright, good deal
[09:08] <goldfndr> used unzip then cabextract, actually
[09:08] <sudo_maddash> ozzloy: did you install the appropriate drivers?
[09:08] <American-Tech> Ya but nothing happend when I tried to install the driver
[09:08] <American-Tech> sigh
[09:09] <goldfndr> American-Tech: have you tried typing "lspci" yet?
[09:09] <n-rated> Ok I did uname -r and ther kernel version is 2.6.17-10-generic so now to work out where I download the header files
[09:09] <h3xis> n-rated, i think you need linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic then
[09:09] <American-Tech> how do I try that gold?
[09:09] <goldfndr> you still have a shell open?
[09:10] <goldfndr> if so, just type "lspci" within, then strike the Enter key.
[09:10] <Rob-West> im removing gnome
[09:10] <Rob-West> brb
[09:10] <fotoflo> Anyone know how to use SCIM ?
[09:13] <n-rated> I suppose the tar.gz file at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/linux-source-2.6.17 will work?
[09:13] <h3xis> n-rated, it's in the official repo :P
[09:14] <h3xis> n-rated, hold on, what release are you on? edgy?
[09:14] <n-rated> 6.10
[09:15] <h3xis> yeah
[09:15] <h3xis> okay
[09:15] <h3xis> do thi
[09:15] <h3xis> this
[09:15] <h3xis> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic
[09:16] <n-rated> Will that work with no internet conection in kubuntu?
[09:16] <h3xis> >.< forgot about that. i thought you were on wired ethernet
[09:16] <h3xis> im not sure if it's on the cd
[09:16] <n-rated> I am trying to get my wireless card to work
[09:16] <h3xis> yeah :/
[09:16] <h3xis> do you have a flash drive?
[09:16] <American-Tech> me to
[09:16] <h3xis> you could download it from the internet
[09:16] <n-rated> yep
[09:16] <h3xis> and then transfer it
[09:17] <n-rated> that is what I been doing with things like the ndsiwrapper source
[09:17] <h3xis> did you compile ndiswrapper from source?
[09:17] <h3xis> or install it from .deb?
[09:17] <n-rated> nope, I need the header files
[09:17] <h3xis> alright, i remember
[09:17] <h3xis> okay
[09:18] <n-rated> so I am downloading this
[09:18] <h3xis> get this
[09:18] <h3xis> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.17/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic_2.6.17.1-10.34_i386.deb
[09:18] <h3xis> save it to your flash drive
[09:18] <h3xis> then take it to the computer
[09:18] <h3xis> and install it
[09:18] <h3xis> sudo dpkg -i linux-headers*
[09:18] <h3xis> when you are in the directory of it
[09:18] <Dark_Nexus> i686-smp kernel image has been replaced by the 686 generic image?
[09:19] <n-rated> ok, thanks
[09:19] <h3xis> Dark_Nexus, i assume. smp is built into 2.6.17+ i think?
[09:20] <Dark_Nexus> oh, i wasn't aware it was being integrated into the kernel in generic
[09:20] <goldfndr> American-Tech: have you tried typing "lspci" yet?
[09:20] <n-rated> Ok rebooting back to kubuntu, hopefull to never some back to windows
[09:20] <h3xis> haha
[09:21] <Dark_Nexus> how does generic pull that off then?
[09:21] <Dark_Nexus> it's the same package for everyone right?
[09:21] <h3xis> Dark_Nexus, i think
[09:21] <Dark_Nexus> wouldn't smp enabled on a linux image running on a machine that didn't have dual cores or hyper threading crash?
[09:21] <Bhaskar> when i delete the files from pen drive, it seems to be deleted but while checking from windows, it show the .traced file there what is the probem in Ubuntu
[09:21] <American-Tech> one sec goldfndr got a phone call
[09:22] <n-rated> it is not funny, the installation of XP i have is half broken, and I only formated a month ago
[09:22] <h3xis> Dark_Nexus, it might be a module
[09:22] <goldfndr> American-Tech: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1908100 says BCM4311, hopefully that helps, but "lspci" would be best.
[09:22] <Dark_Nexus> another question, this time concerning irc, how you directing that message towards me?
[09:22] <unikon> i have a question what is allowed in ubuntu-offtopic but not allowed in here
[09:22] <h3xis> American-Tech, lspci | grep bcm
[09:22] <h3xis> unikon, dont worry about it
[09:22] <Bhaskar> who can say the USB system in Ubuntu
[09:22] <n-rated> an I need to some how comple Firefox for my extensions
[09:23] <n-rated> brb
[09:23] <PirateHead> unikon, ubuntu-offtopic is where the trolls hang out
[09:23] <Dark_Nexus> i am not sure if you are actually directing it towars me syntactically, but your name appears yellow-gold when you say my name
[09:23] <Dark_Nexus> is there a command to do that?
[09:23] <Bhaskar> i need help about file deletion from USB in ubuntu
[09:23] <Dark_Nexus> or must you just mention their name?
[09:23] <h3xis> Dark_Nexus, no, it's highlighting. it get your attention
[09:24] <unikon>  i appologize for asking a stupid question lol
[09:24] <h3xis> if anyone says your name it does it
[09:24] <Dark_Nexus> ah ok, that's what i figured
[09:24] <fotoflo> where does linux store most programs? like firefox for example?
[09:24] <PirateHead> this room is usually not as hardass about on-topic vs off-topic as, for example ##php
[09:24] <h3xis> fotoflo, /usr/bin is where it stores the binaries
[09:24] <Dark_Nexus> h3xis: i am assuming there is something that detects which modules to load on boot?
[09:24] <h3xis> Dark_Nexus, i think so
[09:25] <tyme-> anyone know why i get err2 when trying to install ubuntu?
[09:25] <fotoflo> h3xis: where does it store the bookmarks?
[09:25] <tyme-> it loads vmlinux / initrd.gz very slowly then reboots or crashes witherr2
[09:25] <goldfndr> fotoflo: try "dpkg -L pkgname" (e.g. dpkg -L firefox)
[09:25] <h3xis> fotoflo, check ~/.firefox
[09:25] <cypher1> Bhaskar please ask your question, someone will answer it
[09:25] <Dark_Nexus> i know that the new edgy version uses an alternative to initrd, but for some reaosn, i didn't get it in the upgrade, any reason why?
[09:25] <h3xis> there are a number of directories and in there is one called "profiles" or something
[09:25] <fotoflo> goldfndr, thanks
[09:25] <fotoflo> h3xis, thanks
[09:26] <h3xis> fotoflo, yeah just dig around. it's called bookmarks. if need be, run sudo updatedb; locate bookmarks.html
[09:26] <cypher1> Dark_Nexus from what did you upgrade to edgy ?
[09:26] <h3xis> Dark_Nexus, not that i know of
[09:26] <Dark_Nexus> from dapper
[09:27] <h3xis> Dark_Nexus, as far as i can tell you probably dont need an initrd
[09:27] <h3xis> so i wouldnt worry about it :P
[09:27] <Bhaskar> cypher1: i found problem in Ubuntu system ,when i delete the files from pen drive, it seems to be deleted but while checking from windows, it show the .traced file there what is the probem in Ubuntu
[09:27] <PirateHead> did the update produce any error logs?
[09:27] <h3xis> Bhaskar, you didnt umount it did you?
[09:27] <Dark_Nexus> Bhaskar: are you making sure to unmount the usb drive after you deleted?
[09:28] <Dark_Nexus> h3xis: i thought you HAD to have an initrd
[09:28] <h3xis> Dark_Nexus, nope
[09:28] <h3xis> im not running one
[09:28] <cypher1> Dark_Nexus i think we have initramfs
[09:28] <hackel> Can anyone explain how I could be getting "no route to host" errors for the same IP on different ports?  Wouldn't some router in between have to be explicitly blocking that traffic?
[09:28] <goldfndr> Dark_Nexus: if the kernel has support for all devices you're using, you shouldn't need an initrd
[09:29] <Dark_Nexus> h3xis: well not specifically initrd, but some sort of initialization program, right?
[09:29] <tyme-> anyone know why i get err2 when trying to install ubuntu?
[09:29] <h3xis> Dark_Nexus, i cant remember how it works, but i think so
[09:29] <tyme-> ubuntu 6.10 i386
[09:29] <h3xis> tyme-, what is err2?
[09:29] <Bhaskar> h3xis: i simply rightclick and eject USB
[09:29] <tyme-> some error.
[09:30] <h3xis> Bhaskar, try doing it through command line
[09:30] <tyme-> it either reboots after loading vmlinuz / initrd.gz or crashes with that error
[09:30] <sandy16> can any body suggest me, some typing tutors
[09:30] <h3xis> sandy16, irc ;P
[09:30] <tyme-> it takes a LONG time to load vmlinuz/initrd -- about 6 minutes
[09:30] <h3xis> tyme-, bad disc?
[09:30] <PirateHead> tyme- did you try reformatting and reinstalling?
[09:30] <tyme-> im switching from suse
[09:31] <tyme-> it wont let me get to any screen other than "install / check cd" etc
[09:31] <sandy16> h3xis, that meant for?
[09:31] <h3xis> sandy16, this is IRC
[09:31] <superflyer> hi there.. well does anyone knows why i can't use my Alt key? I've tried configuring the keyboard settings, but no luck...
[09:31] <h3xis> tyme-, what happens when you "check cd"?
[09:31] <Bhaskar> h3xis:i have redhat ,Xp and Ubuntu, while booting Redhat not appear in option while booting, what is the problem?
[09:31] <tyme-> after loading vmlinuz/initrd it reboots
[09:32] <chable> hi
[09:32] <h3xis> Bhaskar, it's not in your boot loader. you should edit it so that it is
[09:32] <fotoflo> well i have a bunch of bookmarks and a bunch of custom favicons on my windows firefox
[09:32] <PirateHead> hi chable
[09:32] <fotoflo> is there a good way to transfer them all?
[09:32] <chable> anyone knows that if i run a dual core cpu , and i installed ubuntu edgy server , do i need to install linux-smp-686 ?
[09:32] <h3xis> tyme-, redownload the ISO. might be a bad install
[09:32] <tyme-> fotoflo, an online bookmark keeping site
[09:32] <h3xis> chable, you dont.
[09:32] <tyme-> like google
[09:32] <chable> thank you .
[09:32] <Dark_Nexus> wouldn't it be unwise to remove your initialization program?
[09:32] <tyme-> i just download / burned it an hour ago
[09:32] <Bhaskar> h3xix:how can i get?
[09:33] <fotoflo> is there one that manages the favicons too?
[09:33] <h3xis> Bhaskar, are you using grub?
[09:33] <PirateHead> fotoflo, hate to say, but this might not be the greatest place to ask that question
[09:33] <chable> im gone now , HAPPY NEW YEAR everyone
[09:33] <chable> have fun on New Year`s Eve :)
[09:33] <PirateHead> fotoflo - you would get the best answer from a post (or an archive search) to a mozilla mailing list
[09:33] <chable> im goin to a cabin
[09:33] <tyme-> bye chable
[09:33] <h3xis> hahaha
[09:33] <h3xis> a cabin
[09:33] <h3xis> just A cabin?
[09:33] <chable> or how do they call
[09:33] <chable> the mountain wood house
[09:33] <fotoflo> PirateHead, ok
[09:33] <Bhaskar> h3xix:ya
[09:34] <h3xis> Bhaskar, it's in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:34] <fotoflo> ill look around the mozilla forums
[09:34] <tyme-> h3xis i downloaded the iso tonight from a ubuntu mirror
[09:34] <Dark_Nexus> goldfndr: wouldn't it be unwise to remove an init program?
[09:34] <chable> there are like 5 chicks waiting haha
[09:34] <PirateHead> fotoflo - somebody has probably come up with a migration kit at some point, it may be unpolished or unfinished but it might give you a start
[09:34] <h3xis> tyme-, maybe it didnt burn well. i'm just throwing it out as a possibility. it does happen
[09:34] <tyme-> meh. my last cdr =\
[09:34] <Bhaskar> h3xix:/boot/grub/menu.lst, adding option in this file ??
[09:34] <h3xis> Bhaskar, yes. look at the other entries and add redhat accordingly
[09:36] <fotoflo> PirateHead, ok, heres a question that i can ask here: ive just mounted a Fat32 partition - how do i make it read/write, and how to i create an alias across partitions?
[09:36] <Bhaskar> h3xis: thanks
[09:36] <h3xis> :)
[09:36] <Dark_Nexus> what would be the benefit of removing an initilization program like initrd?
[09:36] <h3xis> Dark_Nexus, initrd is for if you have a ramdisk, i think
[09:37] <hepme> which apt command do i use to get a description about a certain package before i download it?
[09:37] <h3xis> Dark_Nexus, if you dont have a ramdisk there is no point in having it
[09:37] <tyme-> hmm.. so since i dont have anymore cdrs until i can go pick some up, is there a way i can boot from a mounted iso?
[09:37] <h3xis> hepme, apt-cache search packagename
[09:38] <Bhaskar> h3xix: while partitioning harddisk, i simply linux-swap and / in ubuntu, this is the way of installation of ubunty????
[09:38] <tumbleweed> hepme: or aptitude show <package name>
[09:38] <hepme> i mean  long description
[09:38] <h3xis> Bhaskar, as far as i know, yes
[09:38] <Dark_Nexus> h3xis: i was under the impression it was required for booting
[09:38] <h3xis> Dark_Nexus, it is in debian
[09:38] <tumbleweed> hepme: show
[09:38] <h3xis> sarge
[09:38] <h3xis> "Stable"
[09:38] <tumbleweed> hepme: search lists packages
[09:38] <hepme> aptitude worked
[09:38] <American-Tech> Ok this is where I am at. I got the driver installed in nsdiswrapper Should I click configure network know?
[09:39] <tyme-> hmm.. so since i dont have anymore cdrs until i can go pick some up, is there a way i can boot from a mounted iso?
[09:39] <h3xis> tyme-, i dont think so
[09:39] <h3xis> tyme-, check google
[09:39] <Dark_Nexus> h3xis: can you recommend a reference on initrd so that i can better understand it?
[09:39] <h3xis> Dark_Nexus, yeah give me a second
[09:39] <tyme-> i've googled before, came up with ways to mount iso's :P
[09:39] <Bhaskar> h3xix: can i /boot,swap,/var,/,/home etc in separate hda??
[09:39] <hyphenated> tyme-: no, to do that you'd kinda already need an operating system booted :-)
[09:39] <h3xis> Dark_Nexus, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initrd
[09:40] <Dark_Nexus> h3xis: lol, the obvious, thanks :)
[09:40] <tyme-> rawr. ubuntu will have to wait =[
[09:40] <hyphenated> tyme-: hunt around and check if any of the discs are CD-RW
[09:40] <h3xis> Bhaskar, swap, you can, home you can, not sure about /var
[09:40] <tyme-> </3 suse =[
[09:40] <PirateHead> tyme-you would need to have an OS running to "mount" an ISO, so you couldn't really boot from it at that point
[09:40] <tyme-> nah no cd-rw's
[09:40] <PirateHead> tyme- do you mean boot a VM from mounted ISO?
[09:41] <tyme-> boot ubuntu install from mounted ISO
[09:41] <PirateHead> are you currently running Suse?
[09:41] <tyme-> yup
[09:41] <Bhaskar> h3xix, but i could not get success these in separately??
[09:41] <PirateHead> is that what you said earlier?
[09:42] <tyme-> i dont think i mentioned it before.. no
[09:42] <PirateHead> and are you trying to boot on your hardware, or on a VM?
[09:42] <h3xis> Bhaskar, i dont know :/
[09:42] <tyme-> uhh.. im not sure.. im a linux newbie obviously =P
[09:43] <tyme-> i cant figure out what's wrong though, im browsing the disc now and everythings being read
[09:43] <PirateHead> do you have QEMU installed as part of your current Suse desktop?
[09:44] <tyme-> no
[09:44] <PirateHead> if you could boot as a VM, it would rule out data corruption on the CD
[09:44] <PirateHead> and would point the finger at your hardware
[09:44] <PirateHead> or vice versa
[09:45] <tyme-> uhm not sure how to do that
[09:45] <PirateHead> are you familiar with the command line?
[09:45] <PirateHead> QEMU is easy to use, as long as you don't require a gui
[09:45] <tyme-> yea
[09:46] <Bhaskar> h3xix: ubuntu support rpm package or not??
[09:46] <h3xis> no
[09:46] <tyme-> apt installing qemu now
[09:46] <PirateHead> bhaskar: supports deb
[09:46] <lupine_85> !rpm
[09:46] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:47] <tyme-> !deb
[09:47] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[09:47] <American-Tech> Ok I just installed wireless drivers with ndswrapper. Where do I go from there?
[09:47] <PirateHead> if there's something available in the RPM repository that isn't in the deb, then the debian team should probably know about it =P
[09:47] <hepme> how can i hear a .pls file from the command line? (not using an X graphical tool)
[09:48] <hepme> mpg321 doesn't seem capable
[09:48] <PirateHead> does play work?
[09:48] <tyme-> PirateHead, do i use qemu ubuntu.iso ?
[09:48] <tyme-> or /?
[09:48] <tyme-> ??*
[09:48] <PirateHead> tyme- i would suggest something like
[09:49] <PirateHead> well, first use qemu-img to create hda.img
[09:49] <PirateHead> qemu -hda hda.img -cdrom ubuntu.iso -boot d
[09:49] <PirateHead> otta do 'er
[09:50] <h3xis> American-Tech, run sudo iwconfig
[09:50] <h3xis> see any wireless interfaces?
[09:51] <PirateHead> I friggin hate wireless
[09:51] <American-Tech> ack
[09:52] <PirateHead> getting it configured is the least fun part of installation
[09:52] <Rookie_> !wifi
[09:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:52] <h3xis> wireless on linux is still a bitch
[09:52] <American-Tech> no wireless extensions
[09:52] <h3xis> hm American-Tech guess it didnt work :/
[09:52] <Rookie_> !easycam2
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easycam2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <Rookie_> !webcam
[09:52] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:52] <American-Tech> nope
[09:52] <h3xis> do you have a wireless LED?
[09:52] <tyme-> PirateHead, what to use as base image for qemu-img
[09:52] <American-Tech> install under nsdrwapper
[09:53] <American-Tech> that make a difference here
[09:53] <PirateHead> no base image
[09:53] <PirateHead> that's for if you want to backup an image or something
[09:53] <h3xis> American-Tech, did you build from source or apt-get?
[09:53] <American-Tech> neither
[09:53] <American-Tech> I installed ndswrapper
[09:53] <h3xis> right
[09:53] <h3xis> how
[09:53] <American-Tech> installed wirless driver
[09:54] <h3xis> from source or apt-get?
[09:54] <tyme-> cant figure out what command options to run with qemu-img
[09:54] <American-Tech> source
[09:54] <h3xis> and you have the header files installed?
[09:54] <PirateHead> I forget exactly how the qemu-img invocation goes
[09:55] <PirateHead> but it should be something like
[09:55] <American-Tech> no sure what you mean h3xisa
[09:55] <PirateHead> qemu-img create -f qcow hda.img 3G
[09:55] <h3xis> American-Tech, in order to use ndiswrapper you need to have the linux header files installed
[09:55] <Lattyware> Hey all, what would be fastest to run for speed: vmware, qemu, kqemu
[09:55] <Lattyware> ?
[09:55] <American-Tech> ok how do I get them?
[09:55] <tyme-> that worked
[09:55] <h3xis> American-Tech, do uname -r
[09:56] <PirateHead> Lattyware - qemu is right out, kqemu id strictly faster
[09:56] <h3xis> whutchu get back
[09:56] <PirateHead> lattyware- VMware offers more features, customer support, etc
[09:57] <Lattyware> I don't really need the features all that much - I run a Single Core, 32bit, Socket A Semperon which runs at 1.6ghz.
[09:57] <PirateHead> lattyware- kqemu is a closed-source kernel extension to QEMU, which is open-source
[09:57] <tyme-> hmm
[09:57] <Lattyware> OK, thanks.
[09:57] <American-Tech> ok I put in uname -r  just gave me 2.6.17.10 generic
[09:57] <tyme-> the window it opens for qemu loads the vmlinuz/initrd.gz quick
[09:57] <PirateHead> lattyware- all depends on your needs. if you like to hack things out and want to use something that's easy and free, go kqemu. if you need mroe features, support, etc, go vmware
[09:57] <h3xis> American-Tech, okay, does the computer youre trying to get wireless on have a wired ethernet connection?
[09:57] <PirateHead> they are both fast
[09:57] <tyme-> hard as hell to read cause its transparent though :P
[09:58] <Lattyware> OK, thank you.
[09:58] <lupine_85> I'm trying to migrate my system to lvm but i'm having some trouble getting a sane boot. anyone got any experiencee with this?
[09:58] <American-Tech> yes
[09:58] <h3xis> American-Tech, cool. okay so do sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic
[09:59] <PirateHead> tyme - is it having an easier time booting?
[09:59] <lupine_85> my /boot is on a non-LVM partition but it looks like the initrd isn't generating the device nodes for the root= fs
[09:59] <American-Tech> ok give one sec
[09:59] <tyme-> yea it actually boots
[10:00] <tyme-> but doesnt go into install cause theres some other errors
[10:00] <tyme-> most likely cause im emulating it
[10:00] <tyme-> it stays on the progress screen
[10:00] <tyme-> not 'frozen' but it wont go to any other
[10:00] <PirateHead> hmm, probably not worth troubleshooting
[10:01] <PirateHead> because if it got past the part where it's freezing on your hardware
[10:01] <PirateHead> then there might be a problem with your hardware
[10:01] <PirateHead> on the other hand, if suse is working fine, that makes things wierd
[10:01] <tyme-> it doesnt freeze when booting from cdrom
[10:01] <tyme-> it just reboots after loading vmlinuz / initrd
[10:01] <tyme-> but it takes a long time to load those
[10:02] <PirateHead> right, that's what I meant by freeze
[10:02] <PirateHead> wrong choice of words
[10:02] <PirateHead> more like you were getting stuck
[10:02] <PirateHead> are you trying to boot from livecd, or are you trying to install to hard drive?
[10:03] <American-Tech> could not find package
[10:03] <tyme-> install to harddrive
[10:03] <h3xis> American-Tech, do you have the security repo in your sources.list?
[10:04] <tyme-> its gotta be the cd
[10:04] <Bhaskar> h3xis:where can i find free Ubuntu book
[10:04] <tyme-> im trying to copy files from the cd and its taking a long time
[10:04] <PirateHead> well, no brilliant ideas come to mind
[10:04] <h3xis> Bhaskar, no idea haha
[10:05] <rolnxyz> does anybody use beagle desktop search
[10:05] <PirateHead> yeah, that might mean trouble
[10:05] <tyme-> 6 hours to copy initrd.gz :/
[10:05] <tyme-> lol
[10:05] <PirateHead> ooh
[10:05] <PirateHead> yeah, that might mean something
[10:05] <American-Tech> I don't think so.
[10:05] <American-Tech> How do I add
[10:05] <ademan> where might i grab the palette for the ubuntu logo?  I could have sworn there was a package for it or it came with the GIMP in dapper
[10:06] <Tajmox> How do I enable my TV-Out?  I'm using ATI
[10:06] <cowbud> Tajmox: have you checked google?
[10:06] <Tajmox> yes
[10:06] <PirateHead> did you get the cd from somewhere, or did you download iso and burn it?
[10:06] <cowbud> Tajmox: and how did that go?
[10:06] <Tajmox> badly
[10:06] <h3xis> American-Tech, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list as root and add deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and save it then re-run that command
[10:06] <tyme-> downloaded and burned
[10:06] <cowbud> so if I google ati tv-out linux im not going to find anything?
[10:07] <cowbud> tajmox: so if I google ati tv-out linux im not going to find anything?
[10:07] <Tajmox> I even fouond a thread relating to my exact computer
[10:07] <Tajmox> but nobody had a solution
[10:07] <ademan> Tajmox: it's going to be a hellish trip into /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:07] <tyme-> www.google.com/linux
[10:07] <Tajmox> ademan i'd imagine
[10:07] <ademan> basically what you have to do
[10:07] <American-Tech> ok
[10:07] <ademan> is duplicated your device and your screen entries
[10:08] <ademan> then you give them an identifier number (0 and 1)  and then restart X
[10:08] <Tajmox> i can do that
[10:08] <ademan> unfortunately i don't have a dual head xorg.conf at the moment, lemme dig one up
[10:08] <Tajmox> thanks, that helps a lot more than "google.com"
[10:09] <ademan> googling "dual head" will help a lot too
[10:09] <ademan> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[10:09] <ademan> maybe
[10:09] <Tajmox> thats the keyword i need thanks
[10:09] <Tajmox> i was searching "tv out"
[10:09] <Tajmox> not dual display
[10:09] <ademan> yeah, hope that helps
[10:10] <Tajmox> helps much thanks
[10:10] <h3xis> American-Tech, get it?
[10:10] <elljay> is there a ubuntu release for the intel mac?  or will a standard build install?
[10:10] <Boknoy> having trouble adding a static route..i've never played with routing tables, so i'm not even sure where to begin..google's showing me 10 million different ways on 10 million different systems
[10:10] <h3xis> elljay, i think the x86 install works
[10:11] <PirateHead> isn't the intel mac just another x86 platform?
[10:11] <h3xis> yeah
[10:11] <Tajmox> yes it should be compatible
[10:11] <elljay> yeah.. it's just another platform.. but i have the bluetooth imac.. so i wasnt sure if the keyboard/mouse would work
[10:11] <Bhaskar> h3xix: how can mount NTFS from ubuntu for read & writr data
[10:11] <PirateHead> I'm tempted to buy a MacBook Pro and put Edgy on it
[10:11] <American-Tech> Sorry the package is not there
[10:12] <Tajmox> Bhaskar: writing to your main Windows XP partition will screw up your windows and will not start.
[10:12] <elljay> ntfs write is buggy at best.. avoid it
[10:12] <elljay> make a small fat32 partition for moving files back and forth
[10:12] <h3xis> American-Tech, search http://packages.ubuntu.com for it and install the deb manually from there
[10:12] <elljay> or get a usb thumb drive
[10:13] <Tajmox> elljay : even better, ext2
[10:13] <h3xis> aw no journaling love?
[10:14] <hepme> how can i enable my mouse in virtual console mode?
[10:14] <Tajmox> American-Tech what package you looking for
[10:14] <h3xis> Tajmox, linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic
[10:15] <elljay> hepme; start gpm
[10:15] <Tajmox> is that a backport
[10:15] <American-Tech> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Flinux-source-2.6.17%2Flinux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic_2.6.17.1-10.34_i386.deb&md5sum=ec2770850d4038d804419540d10a3663&arch=i386&type=security
[10:15] <American-Tech> Not sure what to do from this point
[10:16] <hepme> elljay:  i dont seem to how have gpm... how can i do it?
[10:16] <iLLf8d> night all
[10:16] <Tajmox> American-Tech download the .deb file and double click it to install
[10:16] <h3xis> American-Tech, http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.17/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic_2.6.17.1-10.34_i386.deb
[10:19] <American-Tech> ok is says I already have the same version already installed. Should I reinstall or forget?
[10:19] <h3xis> forget it if it's already installed
[10:19] <h3xis> hm
[10:20] <h3xis> and i assume you did sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[10:20] <American-Tech> no
[10:20] <h3xis> o.o
[10:20] <h3xis> okay first off
[10:20] <cyphase> this damn hard drive..
[10:20] <h3xis> did you load the inf?
[10:20] <h3xis> you did that right?
[10:20] <cyphase> i can see the data when i cat /dev/hdf1..
[10:20] <cyphase> but i can't extract it
[10:21] <Bhaskar> h3xis: adding Nepali locale in ubuntu?
[10:21] <h3xis> Bhaskar, what?
[10:21] <American-Tech> yes I installed the driver from the gui interface. It said hardware was present after I installed
[10:21] <h3xis> okay
[10:21] <h3xis> American-Tech, run sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[10:22] <h3xis> any luck?
[10:22] <American-Tech> did nothing
[10:23] <Bhaskar> h3xix: adding locale?
[10:23] <h3xis> you mean, it returned nothing?
[10:23] <American-Tech> yes
[10:23] <h3xis> Bhaskar, why are you wanting to add a locale
[10:23] <h3xis> American-Tech, that is good. now run sudo iwconfig
[10:23] <h3xis> American-Tech, see anything?
[10:24] <American-Tech> yes it returned this
[10:24] <American-Tech> lo no wirless exttension
[10:25] <h3xis> and...
[10:25] <American-Tech> ettho no wirless ext
[10:25] <h3xis> and...
[10:25] <American-Tech> eth1 ieee 802./b/g
[10:25] <h3xis> eee that's it!
[10:26] <h3xis> okay
[10:26] <h3xis> now youre in kubuntu arent you?
[10:26] <American-Tech> ok
[10:26] <American-Tech> ubuntu
[10:26] <h3xis> oh good, in gnome then?
[10:26] <American-Tech> yes
[10:26] <h3xis> ahhh okay
[10:26] <h3xis> in your system tray
[10:26] <h3xis> area
[10:26] <h3xis> do you see where you can change your connection?
[10:27] <h3xis> it's called network manager
[10:27] <American-Tech> I have networking and network tools
[10:27] <h3xis> no no no
[10:27] <h3xis> in your system tray
[10:28] <h3xis> where all your icons are
[10:28] <h3xis> and stuff
[10:28] <h3xis> right now it should look like an ethernet end
[10:28] <h3xis> and it should say you are connected to a wired connection
[10:28] <Bhaskar> h3xix: i want to input from Nepali language
[10:28] <h3xis> when you hover your mouse over it
[10:28] <h3xis> Bhaskar, i dont know :/
[10:29] <darth_chatri> i am not being able to mount smbfs in ubuntu 5.10
[10:29] <darth_chatri> i have a server installation
[10:29] <h3xis> darth_chatri, no command found or what?
[10:29] <darth_chatri> mount: wrong fs type ...
[10:29] <fredl> anybody else having problems with azureus coredumping?
[10:30] <h3xis> darth_chatri, sudo apt-get install samba
[10:30] <American-Tech> Shows my network connection as etho
[10:30] <Bhaskar> h3xix"where r u from
[10:30] <h3xis> American-Tech, okay, you need to change it
[10:30] <h3xis> Bhaskar, usa
[10:30] <darth_chatri> smb_fill_super: missing data argument
[10:30] <American-Tech> eth1 not listed
[10:30] <h3xis> American-Tech, click on it
[10:30] <h3xis> it should show your AP
[10:30] <h3xis> under Wireless
[10:31] <darth_chatri> h3xis: tried installing samba, didnt work
[10:31] <h3xis> American-Tech, ah i just read what you said
[10:31] <h3xis> darth_chatri, not sure then
[10:32] <h3xis> American-Tech, in terminal try sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[10:33] <Bhaskar> h3xix:configurating SAMBA for XP and Ubuntu??
[10:33] <h3xis> Bhaskar, what about it
[10:33] <American-Tech> interface does not support scanning
[10:34] <Bhaskar> h3xis: how samba configure ?
[10:34] <h3xis> American-Tech, sudo iwconfig eth1 Managed
[10:34] <h3xis> Bhaskar, it's in a conf file, i cant remember where. maybe /usr/share/samba/smb.conf?
[10:36] <Bhaskar> h3xis: what is the procedure to configure samba ?
[10:36] <American-Tech> un recognised wirless request "Manged"
[10:36] <jpiccolo> can anyone please help with dmraid
[10:36] <h3xis> American-Tech, sudo iwconfig eth1 essid <NAME_OF_YOUR_AP>
[10:37] <American-Tech> Name Of AP?
[10:37] <h3xis> yeah, the name of your access point
[10:37] <h3xis> the essid
[10:37] <h3xis> Bhaskar, it tells you in the file
[10:38] <darth_chatri> h3xis: a command called smbmount should ideally be installed right?
[10:38] <h3xis> yes
[10:39] <darth_chatri> its missing for some reason
[10:39] <h3xis> install it :P
[10:39] <darth_chatri> which package does it belong to?
[10:39] <h3xis> do apt-cache search smbmount
[10:39] <h3xis> that'll tell you
[10:39] <jpiccolo> can anyone please help with dmraid, my controller is not showing up in /dev/mapper
[10:39] <darth_chatri> nothing
[10:40] <h3xis> darth_chatri, apt-cache search smbfs
[10:40] <American-Tech> when I did sudo iwconfig is said essid:off
[10:41] <h3xis> arggg
[10:41] <h3xis> okay
[10:41] <h3xis> hm
[10:41] <h3xis> American-Tech, try sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[10:42] <American-Tech> no such file or directory
[10:42] <h3xis> o.o.
[10:42] <hepme> lol
[10:42] <h3xis> sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[10:43] <h3xis> doesnt work?
[10:43] <American-Tech> Thanks for all the help by the way
[10:43] <h3xis> haha
[10:44] <American-Tech> No but sudo ifconfig eth1  works
[10:44] <h3xis> what did it do?
[10:44] <h3xis> oh nm
[10:44] <h3xis> okay
[10:44] <h3xis> try
[10:44] <American-Tech> Returnd
[10:44] <h3xis> dhclient eth1
[10:44] <bulmer> sudo ifup eth1
[10:45] <American-Tech> link encap:ethernet
[10:45] <h3xis> try what bulmer said
[10:45] <ernz> cowbud: you here?
[10:45] <Bhaskar> h3xis:how can be Ubuntu removed from harddisk
[10:46] <h3xis> Bhaskar, overwrite it with something else
[10:46] <h3xis> n-rated any luck?
[10:46] <n-rated> nope
[10:46] <h3xis> :<
[10:47] <n-rated> After install what you said with no errors it sill would not compile
[10:47] <h3xis> :/
[10:47] <n-rated> still said the files were missing
[10:47] <Bhaskar> h3xix: i have XP and ubunto, i want to remove ubunt, how it possible ?
[10:47] <MAKAVELI9> i can telnet into my router from windows(cmd.ex) and the router responds to the commands .. but in linux using telnet , i can login, but there is no response to the commads i enter
[10:47] <MAKAVELI9> is this some sort of telnet emulation issue ?
[10:47] <h3xis> Bhaskar, you have to overwrite it with something else
[10:48] <n-rated> I think I going to have to download all the header files unless I can download a compiled verion of it
[10:48] <MAKAVELI9> if i press the Up key to look at the previous history of commands, those can be executed
[10:48] <h3xis> American-Tech, ?
[10:48] <h3xis> n-rated
[10:48] <h3xis> do make clean
[10:48] <h3xis> then make again
[10:49] <Lattyware> Hey all
[10:49] <n-rated> h3xis, I would be wasteing my time looking for a complied version right?
[10:49] <h3xis> yeah, pretty much
[10:49] <h3xis> there's a bug in the ndiswraper binary
[10:49] <Lattyware> mplayer appears to have uninstalled itself, and now I cannot reinstall the package
[10:49] <darth_chatri> h3xis: damn, it was in universe :-S
[10:49] <American-Tech> I did this
[10:49] <h3xis> Lattyware, why not
[10:49] <American-Tech> sudo iwconfig eth1 essid <NAME_OF_YOUR_AP>
[10:50] <h3xis> darth_chatri, heh
[10:50] <American-Tech> and it returned nothing
[10:50] <Lattyware> It gives me the error: Package mplayer has no available version, but exists in the database.
[10:50] <Bhaskar> h3xis:where can i get Ubuntu 6.10 CD in free of cost?
[10:50] <h3xis> American-Tech, did you type in the name of your access point?
[10:50] <n-rated> Do you think I would have to download thoes header files to say compile Firefox?
[10:50] <nIRVn> greetings
[10:50] <American-Tech> I put the essid name
[10:50] <h3xis> Bhaskar, download it?
[10:50] <American-Tech> i put in exactly this
[10:50] <h3xis> American-Tech, okay, now run sudo ifup eth1
[10:50] <Lattyware> Any ideas?
[10:51] <American-Tech> sudo iwconfig eth1 essid wirless
[10:51] <h3xis> n-rated, i dont think so
[10:51] <Lattyware> It also happens with the gtkpod-aac package
[10:51] <Bhaskar> h3xis:i have low bandwidth?
[10:51] <h3xis> Bhaskar, the ubuntu site gives them out for free
[10:51] <h3xis> check on their
[10:51] <h3xis> there*
[10:51] <American-Tech> says already confiqured
[10:51] <h3xis> okay
[10:51] <hepme> i installed gpm and then i ran 'gpm start' but i still dont see my mouse in the console. do i have to reboot for it to work?
[10:51] <h3xis> American-Tech, try dhclient eth1
[10:52] <h3xis> sudo dhclient eth1*
[10:52] <h3xis> hepme, maybe?
[10:52] <nIRVn> hrm, recently ubuntu started handling my unicode text quite strangely, would it be possible to receive some advise here?
[10:52] <h3xis> nIRVn, possibly
[10:52] <hepme> or does gpm not work with trackballs?
[10:52] <American-Tech> Got permision denied
[10:52] <h3xis> American-Tech, did you do it as root?
[10:53] <h3xis> hepme, linux sees a trackball as a regular ps2 mouse so that isnt the issue
[10:53] <h3xis> try restarting
[10:53] <luisjose> I need a good VoIP client (sip or iax)
[10:53] <Lattyware> h3xis: Nah, they only give out 6.06
[10:53] <h3xis> ah
[10:53] <hepme> k
[10:53] <luisjose> Any suggestion?
[10:53] <Lattyware> To get 6.10 you have to download or buy a magazine - or just get 6.06 and upgrade as soon as you install
[10:53] <American-Tech> saying network is down
[10:54] <Lattyware> Or find someone you know who will burn it for you
[10:54] <h3xis> American-Tech, i dont know then :/
[10:54] <h3xis> ive thought of everything i could
[10:54] <nIRVn> great; if I write a string with latin letter + unicode (in my case Khmer), everything is ok but if I bold the string, the unicode part will shrink down to its smallest possible pt value
[10:54] <Lattyware> So, anyone know why it's messing up.
[10:54] <n-rated> I got mine form a mag
[10:54] <American-Tech> Thanks for your help
[10:55] <h3xis> yeah, sorry :/
[10:55] <nIRVn> it does that in firefox & openoffice
[10:55] <h3xis> American-Tech, is it showing up in Networking?
[10:55] <h3xis> in the gnome menu
[10:55] <tyme-> Lattyware, you can update from 6.06 to 6.10 during install?
[10:55] <h3xis> luisjose, FreeSWITCH?
[10:55] <Lattyware> No, I meant just install then update
[10:56] <n-rated> h3xis I think I will just download the source and be done with it
[10:56] <Lattyware> Well, You might be able to, I doubt it though.
[10:56] <nIRVn> not so sure what triggered this behaviour. At first I thought it was a custom ~/.fonts.conf I created to enable hinting on font rendering but after removing the file, problem's still there
[10:56] <tyme-> update .. how?
[10:56] <h3xis> n-rated, alright, sorry :/
[10:56] <Lattyware> 'sudo update-manager -c'
[10:56] <Lattyware> Normally it'd show in the package manager, but 6.06 is an LTS
[10:57] <h3xis> luisjose, or Shtoom
[10:58] <Lattyware> *update manager, not package manager
[10:58] <Lattyware> Ah, I think I have my problem, my source.list is seriously mucked up
[10:59] <nIRVn> h3xis, are you aware whether this is a known problem or not; if known, hopefully there's a fix :)
[11:00] <h3xis> honestly, i have absolutely no idea
[11:00] <American-Tech> I rebooting the laptop
[11:06] <American-Tech> yes it does
[11:06] <nIRVn> h3xis, guess I just needed a little bit of chatting, figured out what was causing the issue
[11:06] <nIRVn> thanks for listening ; )
[11:10] <SVisor> Im having bad sound quality with my Ubuntu 6 (nForce2 Asus). Anyone have any solution?
[11:12] <roxy> nfoce2 asus, a7n8 ?
[11:16] <SVisor> roxy: Somthing like that yes.
[11:16] <SVisor> roxy: Older version of that mothercard
[11:16] <roxy> also bad performce in Windows
[11:17] <SVisor> roxy: No windows works well
[11:18] <QwertyM> how do I make printscreen button make jpg images rather than png always?
[11:18] <roxy> i use a pci sound  card to solve the problem
[11:19] <ZeroSystem> i installed kubunta recently but my wireless adapter keeps being disabled, i installed driver and ndiswrapper but when i enable the driver it gets diabled automaticly
[11:19] <SVisor> roxy: Tempted.. I must admit that. The playback from CD is terrible.
[11:20] <rohan> what package is needed to compile gtk2 stuff ?
[11:21] <doviende> !pastebin
[11:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:21] <rohan> also, someone please help me ! the fonts on kubuntu are looking terrible !
[11:22] <rohan> http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1mv9.png
[11:22] <rohan> i have set them to trebuchet ms, but any other fonts look disgusting
[11:22] <rohan> i have set subpixel hinting on, too
[11:22] <roxy> the volume is so low, while it works fine in the early days
[11:23] <HeavyThinker> for extra help, type "/join #freenode-newyears" without the quotes. i am sooo getting kicked :P
[11:23] <roxy> i tried to use the newest drive, but failed
[11:24] <roxy> i have to use an extend sound card
[11:24] <QwertyM> how do I make printscreen button make jpg images rather than png always?
[11:25] <roxy> jpg is 24bit while png up to 32bit, maybe this is the reason
[11:25] <Flannel> rohan: libgtk2.0-0
[11:26] <rohan> Flannel: thanks a lot :)
[11:26] <Flannel> rohan: you may need additional language bindings, of course, but, they're in there too ;)
[11:26] <Nameeater> QwertyM: just change the extention to jpg
[11:26] <turtle5001> happy  new  year , all
[11:26] <rohan> Flannel: yes, i look them up :)
[11:26] <rohan> turtle5001: you too !
[11:26] <tyme-> does ubuntu come with Xgl installed?
[11:27] <rohan> tyme-: no
[11:27] <QwertyM> Nameeater, that doesnt really make it a jpg, size remains the same and no preview appears either.
[11:28] <Nameeater> ah so it doesnt
[11:28] <Nameeater> :o
[11:29] <QwertyM> Nameeater, hehe yeah :)
[11:31] <Iceshadow> can anyone assist me with bridging wifi0 and ath0 interfaces?
[11:31] <ikonia> why bridge it ?
[11:32] <tyme-> why not?
[11:32] <Iceshadow> kismet is throwing a fit about wanting to use wifi0, and not ath0
[11:32] <ikonia> kismet ?
[11:34] <Iceshadow> wifi packet sniffer
[11:34] <ikonia> can you not just change the device name it wants
[11:35] <Iceshadow> wifi0 doesn't exist
[11:35] <Iceshadow> which is what its wanting
[11:36] <yeager> chage wifi0 to ath0 in kismet.conf
[11:37] <Iceshadow> you mean vice versa
[11:37] <Iceshadow> ath0 is in kismet.conf
[11:37] <Iceshadow> and wifi0 will lock the box up
[11:37] <Iceshadow> tried that first thing
[11:38] <rohan> how do i select which locales to generate and which not ?
[11:41] <fotoflo> how do i setup remote desktop from windows to ubuntu?
[11:43] <Goshawk> hi
[11:44] <Goshawk> does anybody know a eeprom programmer that works on ubuntu ?
[11:47] <Thirsteh> fotoflo, try VNC
[11:48] <hhyyjj163> hi
[11:49] <SVisor> Goshawk: No, but try google.. I got this as first link: http://outflux.net/software/pkgs/EPROM/
[11:51] <SVisor> Goshawk: If you get it running, let me know. Then I would not have to go to work to burn my eeprom.. well I mostly use PLC/PIC:s anyway.
[11:53] <Goshawk> ok Svisor
[11:56] <turtle5001> http://c.oneofthelads.com/carwash.php
[12:01] <Goshawk> Svisor: ifound this one... http://www.lancos.com/prog.html going to package it, see you later
[12:02] <nu-> !apache
[12:02] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:02] <Goshawk> SVisor:  ifound this one... http://www.lancos.com/prog.html going to package it, see you later
[12:02] <martii> hi anyone uses rtorrent? I don't know how it's possible to download from private tracker
[12:02] <SVisor> Goshawk: Thanks it looks like everything I would need.
[12:03] <Goshawk> :D
[12:03] <Goshawk> i hope it will be accepted by the motu team
[12:09] <LetterRip> hi we have had five or so bugs reported related to blender2.42a and ubunutu drivers/x11 across both ati and nvidia graphics cards - any idea why ubuntu x11 in particular might be getting a lot of reports?
[12:09] <mmzin> im using XChat but i cant see the nicks list, where i configure this
[12:10] <LetterRip> ie - http://projects.blender.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=125&aid=5563&group_id=9
[12:17] <mmzin> im using XChat but i cant see the nicks list, where i configure this
[12:18] <damotor> hi
[12:18] <gnomefreak> mmzin: stretch the right hand side out a bit there are there with xchat. xchat-gnome they may not.
[12:19] <damotor> I installed the ati binary drivers in my pc (ati mobility radeon 9700), since then I'm having 3d acceleration but when I choose 'switch user' or start a news Xsession it hangs. What can I do?
[12:21] <hagabaka> where do i get my sendmail mail delivered?
[12:22] <rohan> how do i configure my system to use the en_US.utf8 locale ? i read the guide, and installed localeconf. but it just does not work
[12:22] <rohan> i selected en_US utf8 as the default locale, but my system still uses en_IN
[12:23] <lupine_85> hi, I'm trying to get my system transferred over to LVM; I'm attempting to generate an LVM-enabled initrd.img but mkinitrd is giving this error:- /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /dev/mapper/main-edgy_i386: Cannot find LVM device -- the device-file exists. Any ideas?
[12:23] <hagabaka> rohan, does it work in a newly started shell?
[12:24] <SVisor> hagabaka: I might be wrong, but isnt /var/mail default for sendmail.... I do not have sendmail installed so I can not check
[12:24] <rohan> hagabaka: no. i rebooted the whole system, infact
[12:26] <rohan> hagabaka: any other ideas ?
[12:26] <mmzin> gnomefreak, thx i find it xD
[12:26] <lupine_85> aha! nvm, stale /dev
[12:27] <mmzin> gnomefreak, and how i take off the left tab with the server and channel
[12:27] <davidwinter> how can I install recommended packages for a package in Synaptic?
[12:28] <hagabaka> rohan, try just adding a line LANG="en_US.UTF-8" in /etc/environment
[12:28] <rohan> ok
[12:29] <rohan> hagabaka: lol, there are two lines there. lang=en-in at the top, and lang=en-us utf8 at the bottom
[12:29] <hagabaka> log off and re-log in to have that take effect for all programs
[12:29] <rohan> ok
[12:30] <rohan> did not help
[12:30] <rohan> when i log in to a VT, it still shows en_IN
[12:30] <kraut> moin
[12:30] <hagabaka> did you get rid of the en_IN line in /etc/environment?
[12:30] <rohan> yes, i did
[12:31] <hagabaka> maybe you have another file overriding it
[12:31] <rohan> do you want me to paste that file ?
[12:31] <rohan> yes
[12:31] <rohan> but i cant find which
[12:31] <hagabaka> try "grep -R en_IN /etc"
[12:31] <brohacz> hello
[12:32] <rohan> /etc/default/locale:LANG="en_IN"
[12:32] <rohan> :-\
[12:32] <hagabaka> change that then :)
[12:33] <rohan> yes :)
[12:33] <rohan> thanks a lot, hagabaka
[12:33] <hagabaka> no problem
[12:33] <rohan> worked :)
[12:34] <brohacz> did you talk about changing character encoding ? :>
[12:34] <roxy> i wanna change my timezone to +8 while it is -5 now, i've modified the /etc/time and /etc/default/rcS
[12:35] <roxy> but date +%z says, it's -5 still
[12:35] <giftnudel> roxy: why don't you use the clock applet in gnome?
[12:35] <roxy> no xwin
[12:35] <giftnudel> roxy: oh, and you want to change the timezone
[12:36] <roxy> yes
[12:36] <roxy> and i have the remote control only, only ssh conect
[12:36] <giftnudel> roxy: look in /etc/timezone
[12:37] <roxy> i have modified it, like Asia/Shanghai
[12:37] <roxy> but date +%z says, it's -5 still
[12:37] <hagabaka> i sent a few mails locally using "sendmail" and "mailto", but i didn't have maildrop installed, so they're all in the mail queue. how can i get them dropped?
[12:37] <brohacz> how to change default character encoding ?
[12:38] <giftnudel> roxy: what does tzconfig tell you?
[12:38] <brohacz> I've done command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[12:38] <brohacz> but after all it still doesn't work
[12:40] <giftnudel> roxy: from tzselect: You can make this change permanent for yourself by appending the line <TZ='Europe/Berlin'; export TZ> to the file '.profile' in your home directory; then log out and log in again.
[12:40] <giftnudel> roxy: does that work?
[12:44] <roxy> no efforts...
[12:44] <roxy> no efforts after reboot
[12:44] <DJAdmiral> Hello all ^^
[12:45] <roxy> no efforts after hwclock.sh
[12:51] <Phr34Ck> are there no Ubuntu books to download over the Internet ?
[12:57] <johns^> roxy: why not sync with a ntp server?
[12:57] <johns^> rdate -s `server`
[12:57] <johns^> hwclock --systohc
[12:57] <johns^> that's what I do every now & then
[12:59] <che_benway> hi all. I had bastille installed. had problems with it so I removed it. however i cannot log in to my root account because I had disabled it in bastille. How do I get it enabled?
[01:06] <basvg> hi all .. a while ago I read a (rather long) thread on ubuntuforums.com about the (in)stablity of Edgy... can't seem to find the thread anymore but: how stable is edgy these days? Im still on dapper and considering an upgrade / reinstall
[01:07] <tim167> I have video but no sound in a movie file, tried all players, gxine says audio format is mp3...
[01:08] <Ramosa> why do I keep getting a "dpkg --configure -a" error when running automatic updates?
[01:08] <Ramosa> then it just hangs when I do that
[01:08] <tim167> basvg: I'm on Edgy and its very stable, I recently updated my kernel but had to downgrade again becaus sound didn't work at all...
[01:08] <Ramosa> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a
[01:08] <Ramosa> help!
[01:09] <tim167> Ramosa: did you run dpkg --configure -a ?
[01:09] <basvg> tim167: well, if that's the only problem you've had :).. might just give it a go then.
[01:09] <Ramosa> yes, then it hangs
[01:09] <Ramosa> and I get that everytime i autoupdates
[01:09] <basvg> tim167: did you upgrade from dapper, or fresh install?
[01:09] <tim167> basvg: fresh install, (alternate ISO)
[01:10] <basvg> tim167: why the alternate ISO?
[01:10] <TehBigToe> guys, what package is it that I need to install so that I can listen to Windows Media Player streams in my browser?
[01:11] <tim167> basvg: bcause the live CD didn't work on my laptop, the alternate install CD installed rightaway (which I prefer to having to boot up in the live OS first anyway)
[01:11] <basvg> tim167: ok... with `alternate' you mean the server cd right?
[01:12] <tim167> basvg: not that I remember... just 'alternate'...not sure if that's the same as server
[01:12] <VincentMX> hi
[01:12] <Ramosa> tim167, clearing /var/lib/dpkg/updates seemed to do the trick
[01:13] <VincentMX> does anybody have any experience with ati cards?
[01:13] <tim167> Ramosa: neat :-)
[01:13] <Phr34Ck> hey guys, I'm pluging in my usb hdd and I cannot write files to it because it's a read only ... how can I change that?
[01:13] <VincentMX> glxifno won't work
[01:13] <narvik86> glxinfo  ?
[01:13] <VincentMX> yes
[01:14] <VincentMX> hold on, ill post it on pastebin
[01:14] <tim167> Phr34CK: how is it formatted? (ntfs by any chance?)
[01:14] <Phr34Ck> yeah, it's ntfs I used to use it with windows.
[01:15] <VincentMX> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/848405
[01:15] <Phr34Ck> what's the problem? I have a 512 USB stick and it works perfectly.
[01:15] <liquiddoom> Phr34Ck: It might be using NTFS...?
[01:16] <tim167> Phr34Ck: I IS possible to write to ntfs patitions from linux, but its said to be experimental and not recommended...
[01:16] <Phr34Ck> What am I suppose to do ?
[01:16] <VincentMX> narvik86: read the link i posted
[01:16] <Phr34Ck> Don't ask to format it ;( .. I have like 20 gig of data on it.
[01:17] <prestocaso> hello all
[01:17] <Phr34Ck> I cannot change the permissions on it?
[01:17] <tim167> Phr34Ck: If i were you I'd move all the files to another location (another harddisk preferably), then reformat the disk
[01:17] <narvik86> VincentMX: im sorry, i cant help you, try to reinstall drivers, i have nvidia and never installed ati
[01:18] <Phr34Ck> tim167, *sighs* .. I think I will do that.
[01:18] <Phr34Ck> I will dedicate this external to Ubuntu.
[01:18] <VincentMX> narvik86: i haven't even installed the drivers yet
[01:18] <VincentMX> i still have to do that
[01:18] <tim167> Phr34Ck: if you format it to Fat32 it will work for both Windoze and Linux
[01:18] <Phr34Ck> Fat32 is not good ?
[01:19] <Phr34Ck> I'm going to format it, so I will do it for Linux.
[01:19] <Phr34Ck> So what format ?
[01:19] <narvik86> VincentMX: so there should be MESA drivers or similiar
[01:20] <hardkiffeur> Hi all
[01:20] <prestocaso> hello
[01:20] <narvik86> VincentMX: maybe show xorg.conf byt i'm only guesing
[01:20] <narvik86> hi
[01:20] <tim167> Phr34Ck: I use Fat32 on some HD's, switching between win and Linux, no major problems...but then again I'm not an expert
[01:21] <prestocaso> Phr34Ck for whats it was worth i was told ext 3
[01:21] <modulus> hi hi, any clues on how to get a netgear ma521 workin on ubuntu 6.10 without ndiswrapper?
[01:21] <narvik86> if you would like to share this disk in local network ther can be little problems with fat32
[01:21] <Phr34Ck> prestocaso, I think I will go with ext3 since the root drive is ext3 as well.
[01:22] <narvik86> iwconfig maybe?
[01:22] <jarnos> Hello! mousepad editor gives segmentation fault at startup. (I had to go to power button yesterday because xubuntu freezed on console switching, maybe due to bad mga graphichs driver in Dapper.) I use xfs filesystem. Maybe it is corrupted due to hardware shut down?
[01:22] <prestocaso> Phr34Ck cant remember the name of the program but ive installed it in windows and it allows me to see my linux partitions and acsess them
[01:23] <Jimmey> I've install xserver-xorg, gnome-core, openbox and xinit on a Dapper server install, and when I "startx", I'm getting "Cannot open device /dev/wacom No such file or directory."
[01:23] <liquiddoom> gparted?
[01:23] <narvik86> Jimmey: maybe try to comment lines with wacom driver in xorg.conf
[01:24] <hardkiffeur> on my new edgy installation i've got some difficult with the hibernate mode .... the only one way to wake up my machine : reset ... At the hibernate run module, i've got two issues : pnp error on adresse two time and then my computer going black. but no down, my razer always on light and my screen no on sleep mode. Could you give me a way where i could looking for this issues, where are logs etc... ? thkx for your help
[01:24] <Ramosa> why does my ubunutu keep stalling, so I have to reset?
[01:24] <tim167> can anyone help me get sound from an avi (MPEG-4, DivX-5, ffmpeg) with 48kHz 112 kBit/s MPEG Layer 2/3 audio ? Players show video but no audio ! thanks!
[01:24] <Jimmey> narvik86, when I do that, I get "Fatal server error: no screens found"
[01:25] <CoolCubix> tim167> could you add more information about this ? for instance an error you could see on command line while playing your file with mplayer
[01:26] <narvik86> Jimmey: Maybe you commented too much? only section with wacom ?
[01:26] <Jimmey> narvik, ahh, I have it narrowed down to a few missing fonts...
[01:26] <tim167> CoolCubix: is that "mplayer <filename>" to try that ?
[01:26] <CoolCubix> yes, as long as you are in the directory containing the file
[01:26] <Jimmey> narvik, I can remember having to install a fonts package to rectify this, but I can't remember which one
[01:27] <tim167> CoolCubix: it says: Requested audio codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not available.
[01:28] <jarnos> Reinstallation of mousepad did not help. Any recommendations?
[01:28] <Gosha> if i am root, can i turn the fan off via some command?
[01:28] <Gosha> of mousepad O_o
[01:28] <Gosha> ?
[01:28] <finn__> can anybody help me install the binary codecs for mplayer?
[01:28] <finn__> if I just copy them to /usr/local/lib/codecs mplayer still says no
[01:29] <Gosha> !fan
[01:29] <ubotu> fan is Control the fan  on/off  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html
[01:29] <Gosha> woah
[01:29] <hardkiffeur> !hibernate
[01:29] <ubotu> hibernate: smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or disk). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.91-2 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB
[01:29] <narvik86> finn__: /usr/lib/codecs maybe here?
[01:30] <jarnos> Gosha: mousepad gives segmentation fault at startup. I told about that earlier. It worked yesterday.
[01:30] <CoolCubix> tim167> assuming you have universe repository (in apt) you could try : sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[01:31] <jannu1> any help?: mplayer works fine when i run in terminal but when i try play video, open with... -> mplayer i get eror  Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
[01:31] <Gosha> jarnos, i don't read everything everyone else says XD
[01:31] <narvik86> jannu1: gmplayer maybe, and the chceck in options video output
[01:32] <jannu1> ill try gmplayer
[01:32] <jarnos> Gosha, can you see my earlier writing anyway?
[01:32] <Gosha> .. i'm won't be able to help . i'm not good or anything ..  just happened to see that :P
[01:33] <modulus> iwconfig sees a wlan0 but i don't know if the wireless card is being detected with right driver. if iwconfig sees a wlan0 does it mean it's got the driver?
[01:33] <finn__> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/README says default directory is /usr/local/lib/codecs/ (it used to be
[01:33] <finn__> /usr/local/lib/win32
[01:33] <tim167> CoolCubix: do I have to do something else do make it work? now I still have "Requested audio codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not available." ....
[01:34] <CoolCubix> hmm
[01:34] <hardkiffeur> modulus: you could go to the peripherique control manager at the eth device you've got the driver user by the distrib
[01:34] <narvik86> finn__:  maybe install it from repository?
[01:35] <finn__> what do you mean? I installed it with synaptic
[01:35] <modulus> peripherique?
[01:35] <Ramosa> I had to shut down my computer during Ubuntu Update, and now I can't reboot the computer.. The monitor doesn't even get a signal input, Please Help!
[01:35] <che_benway> hi all. can anyone help? I disabled my root account and can't get back into it. I had Bastille installed ad used it to change security settings. I've since deleted bastille but need to re-enable my root account. thanks
[01:35] <narvik86> finn__: if you have it installed, so what do you want to copy?
[01:36] <finn__> I want to install the binary codecs wich can additionally be used
[01:37] <Ramosa> Kernel Panic: not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[01:37] <narvik86> in synaptic look for w32codecs
[01:37] <Ramosa> What To Do ?
[01:37] <narvik86> finn__: in synaptic look for w32codecs
[01:37] <finn__> thanks
[01:38] <tim167> Ramosa: Does Grub try to load the correct partition ?
[01:38] <che_benway> anyone?
[01:38] <Ramosa> tim, i have no clue
[01:38] <hardkiffeur> modulus:  peripheriques like screen, video card, mouse etc ... (graphique mode ?)
[01:38] <tim167> Ramosa can you interrupt grub on startup ?
[01:38] <Ramosa> tim, how so?
[01:39] <narvik86> che_benway: maybe start ubu with recovery mode and set password for root? if its possible...
[01:39] <tim167> Ramosa: by pressing escape when it shows Grub loading stage 1 (something like that )
[01:39] <Gosha> !cat
[01:39] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:40] <Ramosa> tim, ok i interrupted it.. what kernel to load?
[01:41] <Ramosa> 2.6.17 is the latest
[01:41] <Ramosa> then i have 2.6.15-27
[01:41] <Ramosa> i can also try recovery mode?
[01:41] <che_benway> narvik86: don't think that'll work. tried to log in using ctrl+alt+del+f1 and it says permission denied
[01:41] <tim167> that depends, find the one works I guess...frankly I don't know too much about this either...
[01:41] <narvik86> che_benway: maybe try: sudo su ?
[01:42] <che_benway> narvik86: ok. let me try that
[01:42] <Gosha> with the 'cat' command i should be ale to turn of the fan by doing something with '/proc/acpi/fan/FAN/state' right? .. what would the command be?
[01:43] <liquiddoom> Gosha: Cat displays text.
[01:43] <tim167> Ramosa: but I remember vaguely having had a similar situation and it appeared to be a newer kernel I installed but didn't work, I could launch into the older one this way
[01:43] <McMuffinofdoom> FINALLY
[01:43] <McMuffinofdoom> stupid registration
[01:43] <Phr34Ck> What's the command to format an external hdd ?
[01:43] <Gosha> oh, only?
[01:43] <Ramosa> tim167, but that doesn't help me when I am into Ubuntu and keep stalling
[01:43] <che_benway> narvik86: permission denied
[01:43] <Ramosa> tim167, it can't complete an update without stalling
[01:44] <liquiddoom> Phr34Ck: A good graphical interface would be gparted
[01:44] <MuffY> ok, I need some help with installing ubuntu
[01:44] <MuffY> i boot from the ubuntu disk
[01:44] <MuffY> i get this nice menu
[01:44] <narvik86> che_benway: actually i have no idea, sorry
[01:44] <tim167> Ramosa : is it necessary that you update ?
[01:44] <MuffY> i choose the first option (normal boot or something)
[01:44] <Ramosa> tim, no?
[01:44] <Phr34Ck> gparted <--- command not found ...
[01:44] <Phr34Ck> Where is it located?
[01:44] <Ramosa> but why does Ubuntu keep pushing updates then
[01:44] <Ramosa> if they don't work
[01:45] <daedra> Phr34Ck: Install it.
[01:45] <Gosha> would the fan just turn off if i put 'off' instead of 'on' in '/proc/acpi/fan/FAN/state"?
[01:45] <MuffY> then i get a nice ubuntu logo and a progress bar which bounces around, and eventually starts filling the bar
[01:45] <che_benway> narvik86: thanks anyway. i think in Bastille I selected 'disallow root in all tty's?'
[01:45] <MuffY> then the screen turns black
[01:45] <MuffY> and nothing happens
[01:45] <daedra> Phr34Ck: sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:45] <Phr34Ck> I don't Internet on my Ubuntu box.
[01:45] <Gosha> would it? >_<
[01:45] <tim167> Ramosa: I don't do updates unless I have a reason, not anymore that is, I had problems with updating the kernel just because update notifier sayd I should, now back on older kernel and everything fine :-)
[01:45] <narvik86> che_benway: maybe install it again and reconfigure?
[01:46] <Phr34Ck> and my DVD is playing b*** with me.
[01:46] <liquiddoom> Phr34Ck: It needs to be installed first
[01:46] <liquiddoom> Phr34Ck: It's not there, but you could use fdisk
[01:46] <hardkiffeur> MuffY: have try to chose a different vga cfg at the prompt install menu with F4 ?
[01:46] <MuffY> i tried
[01:46] <MuffY> i did the safe VGA mode
[01:46] <che_benway> narvik86: thanks. will try that
[01:46] <MuffY> it does the same
[01:46] <daedra> Phr34Ck: ok, download the .deb package and transfer it onto your Ubuntu box, then install by clicking on the .deb file
[01:47] <liquiddoom> Phr34Ck: Try sudo fdisk /dev/whatever
[01:47] <narvik86> Phr34Ck: or download gparted iso, burn it and boot
[01:47] <daedra> you can find the gparted .deb file on http://sourceforge.net/projects/gparted/
[01:47] <hardkiffeur> MuffY: i've got a KVM and the safe mode give me the same result but a 800X600 / 16 was good ?!?
[01:47] <MuffY> hardkiffeur: i don't understand you =)
[01:47] <daedra> Phr34Ck: One thing may interest you: gparted is installed in the live-cd of ubuntu
[01:47] <Phr34Ck> sudo fdisk /media/usbdisk <--- unable to read /media/usbdisk ...
[01:47] <MuffY> I've never done any linux =o
[01:48] <MuffY> oh wait
[01:48] <Phr34Ck> daedra, I know, but as I said it's playing arround with me .. something is wrong with my DVD room.
[01:48] <MuffY> i do uynderstand you
[01:48] <hardkiffeur> :)
[01:48] <liquiddoom> Phr34Ck: That's the mount point, not the device node
[01:48] <daedra> Phr34Ck: cool! you have a dvd room
[01:48] <MuffY> you tried 800*600 @ 16 bits and that did work?
[01:48] <Phr34Ck> rom*
[01:48] <Phr34Ck> meh
[01:48] <hardkiffeur> MuffY:  yes
[01:48] <Gosha> .. in nano ctrl+O = save, right?
[01:48] <Phr34Ck> liquiddoom, what's the syntax then ?
[01:49] <liquiddoom> Phr34Ck: You need to find the device node first. Run "dmesg"
[01:49] <daedra> Gosha: yes
[01:49] <MuffY> -quit w000000(t)
[01:49] <MuffY> -quit w000000(t)
[01:49] <Phr34Ck> okay, a gazillion line were written
[01:49] <liquiddoom> Phr34Ck: Actually, just try sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[01:49] <MuffY> damn dutch keyboards
[01:49] <daedra> Gosha: although Ctrl+X also takes you to a save-as prompt
[01:49] <liquiddoom> Phr34Ck: And tell me what it outputs
[01:50] <Gosha> okay, well it didn't work
[01:50] <Phr34Ck> man, there is like 200+ lines.
[01:50] <daedra> yeah dmesg is looong
[01:50] <liquiddoom> Phr34Ck: Er yeah, forget dmesg. Try sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda and tell me the output
[01:51] <liquiddoom> (that should be the USB drive)
[01:51] <Phr34Ck> okay
[01:51] <Phr34Ck> will try that
[01:52] <Phr34Ck> Error: Partition table entries are not in disk order.
[01:53] <xipietotec> cd burning software?
[01:53] <Gosha> "     Shows if the fan is currently active. The fan can be activated and deactivated manually by writing 0 (on) or 3 (off) into this file. However, both the ACPI code in the kernel and the hardware (or the BIOS) overwrite this setting when it gets too warm. " <-- does that mean i should just overwirte evrything in that file with "3"?
[01:54] <xipietotec> !cd
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <xipietotec> !burning
[01:54] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[01:57] <Gosha> when i go "echo 0 > /proc/acpi/fan/FAN/state" it says "-bash: echo: write error: No such device"
[01:58] <Gosha> why?
[01:58] <TehBigToe> because your fan is spinning the wrong way
[01:59] <Gosha> ............ >_>
[01:59] <TehBigToe> oh hi
[01:59] <Gosha> ... wtf?
[02:00] <TehBigToe> you can ignore me, I just say random crap
[02:00] <TehBigToe> :D
[02:00] <Gosha> .. welcome to the club :D
[02:01] <daedra> lollerskates
[02:01] <daedra> if you want to be random, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:02] <user-land> how can i start the newly installed "bittorrent-gui" ?
[02:02] <daedra> user-land: what's the name of the client?
[02:03] <Ramosa> arghgarhh, i can't boot ubuntu after upgrading
[02:03] <user-land> bittorrent, daedra
[02:03] <daedra> user-land: it may be ktorrent, gtorrent, azeurus
[02:03] <daedra> ok
[02:03] <Ramosa> why do you have the urge to do auto updates when it breaks ubuntu?
[02:03] <FurryNemesis> Ramosa, what's the exact problem?
[02:03] <daedra> should just need to type bittorrent
[02:03] <Ramosa> what do I type from console to fix this nonsense?
[02:03] <Ramosa> Furry, i keep stalling during bootup, or when I'm into ubuntu
[02:03] <daedra> although I haven't used that one before (ktorrent is AMAZING)
[02:04] <Ramosa> i did a dkpg --configure -a ... and only mono-runtime gave errors
[02:04] <user-land> daedra, it is none of those, what i just installed in synaptic is "bittorrent-gui".
[02:04] <FurryNemesis> stalling into a blank screen with a command prompt? Or just stalling after X boots?
[02:04] <daedra> user-land: look through your menus
[02:05] <_raphael_> can I put /dev/sda2 in fstab, instead of UUID=numbers?
[02:05] <user-land> it is not in the menu, daedra.
[02:05] <Ramosa> Furry, stalling pretty much anywhere.. also in X
[02:05] <JC_rtk> hi, does cups work with dapper in vmware? i can't get cups started
[02:06] <Acidictadpole> hi, im having technical problems with my pc (not really anything to do with ubuntu, yet) and I'm looking for the # of a computer support channel that I could borrow the services of.
[02:06] <Ramosa> how do I repair Ubuntu ?
[02:06] <Ramosa> what do I type from console
[02:06] <FurryNemesis> Ramosa, I've not come across that before. What options are you running at startup?
[02:06] <teclo-> Ramosa: use power tools
[02:06] <Ramosa> I have no power tools, except a hacksaw
[02:07] <Ramosa> I'm not running any particular options, I didn't mess with much
[02:07] <Ramosa> autoupdate did this
[02:07] <JC_rtk> can anyone help me get cups running? i need to print something.
[02:09] <Acidictadpole> noone knows the channel i could use for general computer support?
[02:09] <McMuffinofdoom> woohoo
[02:10] <Ramosa> I am so buying windows now
[02:10] <MuffY> it worked =)
[02:10] <MuffY> :|
[02:10] <engla> now I have this strange problem I've never had before. None of my x applications want to run, they just hang at the command line if I try to start them.. like rhythmbox, gedit, totem. I can run things like top. Anyone seen that before? This means I can't spawn new X apps right now
[02:10] <MuffY> starting ubuntu in 800*600 / 16 was fun :p
[02:10] <hardkiffeur> :)
[02:10] <MuffY> the monitor got mental
[02:11] <MuffY> i think the size of the VRAM banks weren't set right
[02:11] <MuffY> but 640*480 worked fine =)
[02:11] <engla> but running applications see no trouble
[02:11] <MuffY> but this is still the live version
[02:11] <MuffY> goint to install it now ^_^
[02:12] <engla> and xeyes runs but not xlogo
[02:12] <MuffY> wish me luck =p
[02:12] <hardkiffeur> MuffY: good one !
[02:12] <tim167> Ramosa: what kernel are you running ? does it end with -33 or -34 ?
[02:12] <daedra> Ramosa: noooo
[02:12] <Ramosa> tim, i'm in ubuntu now
[02:12] <Ramosa> should i autoupdate?
[02:12] <Ramosa> where do I see the kernel
[02:12] <MuffY> byebyeeee
[02:12] <Ramosa> what are Mono libraries?
[02:13] <Ramosa> I dont need this do I ?
[02:13] <hardkiffeur> Ramosa: uname -r
[02:13] <Acidictadpole> One of my harddrives died this morning, unfortunately the one that GRUB pointed to for my dual boot of windows XP and linux. It gives me an error 21 and I can't get past the BIOS screen without an error while the hard drive is plugged in.
[02:13] <liquiddoom> Ramosa: They're for .NET applications (F-spot, Paint 2.0)
[02:13] <Acidictadpole> I dont exactly know what to do
[02:13] <liquiddoom> And such
[02:13] <Acidictadpole> I can't boot into ubuntu
[02:13] <Ramosa> ok, but that's what it wants to update
[02:14] <liquiddoom> Ramosa: It might be needed to run F-spot
[02:14] <tim167> Ramosa, open Synaptic and look for  linux-image
[02:14] <Ramosa> tim, 2.6.17.10-386
[02:15] <Ramosa> if mono causes all this, I just want to rid it
[02:15] <jonah1980> hey guys what's up
[02:15] <Acidictadpole>  ineed help :(
[02:15] <Ramosa> tim, it's 34
[02:16] <daedra> Acidictadpole: have you got a live-cd?
[02:16] <Acidictadpole> daedra: yes, when i hit enter with "Start ubuntu ..." selected my screens go blank and nothing happens.
[02:16] <jonah1980> i'm considering buying a cheap pc system to make my own server - i wanted to use ubuntu server edition. i'm a bit unsure whether to part with the money, for one i don't know how much cash i should spend on what type of system.... i wondered if i could quiz any of you on a few server questions
[02:17] <daedra> Acidictadpole: well use a live-cd to access the HD
[02:17] <tim167> Ramosa: I'm just guessing, but, I downgraded from -34 to -33 because i had problems
[02:17] <Acidictadpole> daedra: I said it won't boot to it.
[02:17] <Ramosa> then what can I use "longterm support" for if it only makes my Ubuntu invalid?
[02:17] <jonah1980> my other problem is how to get the server connected up to the internet. i'm changing isp in a couple months and the one i have now gives a static ip, but the one i'm thinking of moving to doesn't!
[02:18] <daedra> Acidictadpole: that's stupid. Hit ESC of F2 or something whilst your computer is booting (with the live-cd in the drive)
[02:18] <Acidictadpole> daedra: I have the ubuntu livecd, but when i hit enter to start it up. my screens go blank and my pc freezes
[02:18] <Ramosa> now my ubuntu is fully upgraded, and working
[02:18] <Ramosa> but damn.. every hour used with Ubuntu is another step towards Windows
[02:18] <Acidictadpole> daedra: are you saying that to get to setup to boot to it?
[02:18] <tim167> Ramosa : You can downgrade the kernel with synaptic, but again, that's what worked for me
[02:18] <Ramosa> i don't wanna fiddle with my OS, I wanna USE it
[02:18] <hexidigital> how can i install edgy's version of mono (1.1.17) on dapper w/o editing my sources.list? is there a way to dl the .deb from packages.ubuntu.com?
[02:19] <Ramosa> I wanna depend on the OS team to find whats best for me
[02:19] <Ramosa> not use me as some kind of GUINEA PIG
[02:19] <daedra> Acidictadpole: no. all you need to do is get to the BIOS screen for bootorder, and select IDE Device/ Cdrom or whatever
[02:19] <Acidictadpole> daedra: My problem is not that it won't boot to it. I get the livecd splash screen fine. When i hit enter on the splash to begin using the livecd.. my computer dies.
[02:19] <daedra> Acidictadpole: to boot that live-cd
[02:19] <daedra> Acidictadpole: well that's probably a graphics problem - start it in safe video mode
[02:20] <Acidictadpole> daedra: I tried tat too, same thing.
[02:20] <Acidictadpole> daedra: its odd because on the hard drive that died ubuntu worked just peachy.
[02:20] <tim167> Ramosa: I know what you mean, I've had that too sometimes, but I'm glad I didnt go back to windoze yet...
[02:21] <daedra> Acidictadpole: yes... well you could try hitting ctrl+alt+backspace to get into shell
[02:21] <Ramosa> the only thing keeping me from windows is the price tag, and me being cheap :)
[02:21] <daedra> Acidictadpole: once the cd has booted
[02:21] <Acidictadpole> daedra: that's worth a try. brb
[02:21] <Vegeta^> Is it possible to password protect a textfile, so it can't be edited, even by a root user?
[02:21] <daedra> Acidictadpole: and then reconfigure x.org from there
[02:21] <fbis> hi guys
[02:22] <tim167> Ramosa: i hope you use an floss os for more than just it being 'free' as in price
[02:22] <fbis> can someone tell me where the gnome session starup commands are held? I added beryl-manager to the session startup but when it runs it locks the machine up and i need to stop it running
[02:22] <webben> I need to take a screenshot of firefox with a context menu open
[02:22] <Ramosa> not at all.. open source is merely a $0 price tag to me :)
[02:23] <webben> Can anyone suggest a way to do that?
[02:23] <daedra> Ramosa: lol
[02:23] <flossgeek> fbis: System>Pref>Sessions
[02:23] <Ramosa> open source is pure anarchy.. too many cooks spoil the food
[02:23] <Phr34Ck> Guys, I have messed up my sources.list ... what can I do to fix it?
[02:23] <Phr34Ck> I have another file in the same directory called sources.list~
[02:23] <Phr34Ck> how can I exchange them, ?
[02:24] <daedra> a spoilt food that millions of servers run because its so reliable
[02:24] <fbis> flossgeek, i can't get into gnome
[02:24] <tim167> Ramosa: then go ahead and eat the food without being allowed to see the ingredients :p
[02:24] <daedra> not to mention customisable
[02:24] <flossgeek> fbis: why what happens
[02:24] <Ramosa> i got better things to do than read the source of every app I use :)
[02:24] <fbis> i get to the session login, put my user name and password in, gnome starts up and gos gray as beryl starts then it locks up and wont alt-tab
[02:24] <Acidictadpole> daedra: nope, doesnt help
[02:25] <daedra> go and head over to ##windows to see how much help you can get ^_^ (its like a ghost town ocompared to here)
[02:25] <tim167> Ramosa: yeah??, like what ? ;-)
[02:25] <daedra> Acidictadpole: that is teh sux0rz
[02:25] <daedra> Acidictadpole: i'm wondering how you installed in the first place...
[02:25] <Ramosa> MS is evil, don't get me wrong.. but as a enduser, with tasks to do, needs to fill.. I look solely at the useability of the app I need
[02:25] <fbis> so i want to take the beryl-manager out of the start up
[02:25] <flossgeek> fbis: choose your default gnome login session and login with tht for now
[02:25] <Ramosa> price vs performance
[02:25] <daedra> Ramosa: an OS is a tool, nothing more
[02:25] <Acidictadpole> daedra: i've had no problems .. one of my harddrives died last night with ubuntu on it.. and I can't get past the bios startup screen
[02:26] <tim167> Ramosa: that's short term thinking
[02:26] <fbis> have done, but beryl still starts and locks machine up!
[02:26] <Phr34Ck> daedra, an OS is the layer between you and the hardware, nothing more ..
[02:26] <flossgeek> fbis: ah right, interesting we need to do it through bash then
[02:26] <fbis> thats what I need :)
[02:26] <Acidictadpole> daedra: GRUB gives me error 21 because i have to unplug the harddrive that died to get that far. And without being able to boot into livecd i have no idea how to reconfigure grub
[02:27] <flossgeek> fbis: give me a few mins please
[02:27] <daedra> Phr34Ck: i'm just saying you shouldn't get into OS flamewars, each one has it's advantages
[02:27] <Phr34Ck> true.
[02:27] <fbis> thanks :)
[02:27] <siv0x> hey is anyone familiar with wine and or steam?
[02:28] <Phr34Ck> The only advantage I can think of Windows, is that it's popular and a huge thirdparty support.
[02:28] <Phr34Ck> Nothing more.
[02:28] <Acidictadpole> Phr34Ck: It's very user friendly
[02:28] <Phr34Ck> Acidictadpole, Linux is as friendly as windows.
[02:28] <daedra> Acidictadpole: grr... The only thing I can think of is perhaps trying a less tempermental live-cd like puppy linux
[02:28] <Phr34Ck> You took time to get used to Windows, right?
[02:28] <Phr34Ck> Linux takes time as well.
[02:29] <siv0x> Phr34CK: Agreed.
[02:29] <daedra> Acidictadpole: puppy linux only requires 128MB RAM, it doesn't even look at your HD at boot
[02:29] <Acidictadpole> Phr34Ck: well, i would have to say yes.. but I dare you to sit an old person down in front of linux and one in front of windows and see which can learn faster.
[02:29] <Acidictadpole> daedra: ill take a look.. i need to find a way to write a cd :/
[02:29] <Phr34Ck> Linux is not for everyone, from my point of view.
[02:29] <Phr34Ck> For me, as a programmer, I would pay 200$ to get a Linux then using a free Windows.
[02:30] <Acidictadpole> Phr34Ck: like computers. But anyone who runs linux would be able to use windows. but not the other way around.
[02:30] <daedra> Acidictadpole: puppy linux also has display managers, xvesa and xorg, and tries persistently to cycle to the correct resolution, before it drops to shell
[02:30] <Phr34Ck> You know, I read an articale like a year ago or something. It stats that more then 35% of windows users doesn't even know what an OS is.
[02:31] <Acidictadpole> Phr34Ck: you dont need to know what something is to be able to use it
[02:31] <Phr34Ck> Acidictadpole, with all due respect, but that's ignorance.
[02:31] <kane77> Phr34Ck, yeah it is...
[02:31] <Acidictadpole> Phr34Ck: I'm not the ignorant one, I know what an OS is.. but you can give a 2 year old a set of drums and he could still play a beat.
[02:32] <daedra> wtf...
[02:32] <Phr34Ck> Acidictadpole, that's not true.
[02:32] <Acidictadpole> Phr34Ck: My cousin did that :P
[02:32] <Phr34Ck> Acidictadpole, it's one in a gazillon, and it's irrelevent to our discussion.
[02:32] <Phr34Ck> The biggest mistake that people do, is comparing 2 different things in order to prove a point.
[02:33] <Phr34Ck> Drums and computers are totally different things. And if one argument is valid, then it doesn't have to be so to other part.
[02:33] <siv0x> Phr34CK: i think what Acidictadpole means is that, a 2 year old wouldnt know what a drum was, but he could still make something out of it.
[02:34] <Phr34Ck> He couldn't. 2 beats or 3 is not "making something out of it"
[02:34] <siv0x> Phr34CK: So therefor, you wouldnt have to know what it was, to use it.
[02:34] <kane77> but not as much as person who knows how to play...
[02:34] <Acidictadpole> Phr34Ck: Ok, here. I feel I'm a pretty decent computer user. I can run both linux and windows at a relatively advanced standpoint. However, I can't for the life of me get multi-monitors running.. even though for some people configuring xorg.conf is easy.
[02:34] <Phr34Ck> You can still teach a 2 year old how to use a mouse, and tell him click here and there using Red Hat linux.
[02:34] <Phr34Ck> There, he's a linux user.
[02:34] <Acidictadpole> I can't figure out what to do to set up xorg.conf while in windows I can just get it to do it for me if it recognizes both the monitors.
[02:35] <kane77> Phr34Ck, thats what I did with my grandfather :D
[02:35] <Phr34Ck> Acidictadpole, I hope you take no offence, but I'm straight with people.
[02:35] <kane77> Phr34Ck, and he's quite happy with xubuntu so far :D
[02:35] <Phr34Ck> You cannot figure it out, because you have lake of understanding in that matter.
[02:35] <Phr34Ck> You're a descent computer user, how many times have you failed to do something only to understand later how it works?
[02:36] <Acidictadpole> Phr34Ck: Maybe so, but then I'm going to put that understanding linux takes a lot more time than understanding windows.
[02:36] <siv0x> ok so i'm guessing no one knows anything about wine or steam here... : (
[02:36] <Phr34Ck> Acidictadpole, that's why Linux is superior for me.
[02:36] <Phr34Ck> I do all the work, and not the OS.
[02:36] <kane77> Acidictadpole, only because its more complex...
[02:36] <Phr34Ck> Without Linux, you wouldn't understand what's really happening.
[02:36] <Phr34Ck> Note that I'm currently using Windows, eeh ?
[02:37] <Acidictadpole> kane77: Exactly... I was saying that windows was a lot more user friendly and easier to learn.
[02:37] <daedra> here's what I DO hate about windows. It's not open source. If it's your hardware, your OS, you should be able to crack it open and have a look inside
[02:37] <Acidictadpole> kane77: Which is an advantage to windows that Phr34Ck did not mention.
[02:37] <Phr34Ck> One major reason I discriminate Windows is that a multi gazillioner company and they cannot even come up with their own ideas.
[02:38] <daedra> It's like buying a wallet that dispenses random amounts of money, but you can't go in and have look, or take out how much you want
[02:38] <Phr34Ck> Almost 60% are copied from somewhere else.
[02:38] <Phr34Ck> Are you reading Vista news?
[02:38] <Acidictadpole> Phr34Ck: I dont use things based on the company who makes them.. unless the company has been known to make ..... products that break within minimal use.
[02:39] <grimboy> How do you make mysql serve on a port rather than just on a socket?
[02:39] <Acidictadpole> Phr34Ck: I'll rephrase.. If its a really bad company ill avoid them.. but if they are the only people that make it.. and i can trust the product to do what i want it to do, i dont not buy it because of who makes it.
[02:40] <QwertyM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22/ --> My f-spot doesnt work, gives this when I start it from the terminal, and in gui it appears 'loading' in taskbar and disappears.
[02:40] <Phr34Ck> Acidictadpole, I understand that. I do that as well, I think we all do that, because it benefits us.
[02:40] <Acidictadpole> And since im a gamer, i use windows for gaming.. nothing else, i use linux for everything else.
[02:40] <Phr34Ck> Acidictadpole, Amen to that.
[02:40] <Phr34Ck> I'm only keeping my desktop with Windows is that because I do some gaming.
[02:40] <Phr34Ck> and I recently switched to Ubuntu to get everything done.
[02:41] <Acidictadpole> Phr34Ck: so i understand where you're coming from. I just know that linux has a lot more of a steep learning curve than windows.. and for more than half of the worlds population, its either impossible or not worth learning.
[02:41] <Tomcat_> The notion that Windows is easier to learn is a mistake imho. Linux is more difficult to learn for people *who already know Windows*, but not for anyone else.
[02:41] <Phr34Ck> Acidictadpole, true. But that depends on the person. It's about what you/he/she wants.
[02:42] <Tomcat_> Just like OS X is probably the easiest OS, but difficult to learn for both Linux and Windows users.
[02:42] <Phr34Ck> For me, I want to get experienced with everything. And Linux is teaching me that, since I have to do everything.
[02:42] <Acidictadpole> Phr34Ck: Right, but people who can excel in steep learning curves with OS's are few and far between. Otherwise there would be hundreds more people in the linux channels.
[02:42] <Acidictadpole> Phr34Ck: Thousands*
[02:42] <daedra> this is sooooo #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:42] <Tomcat_> I agree. :D
[02:42] <Phr34Ck> True.
[02:43] <Acidictadpole> hehe, yea.
[02:43] <Phr34Ck> well, I got carried away with the discussion.
[02:43] <Acidictadpole> Phr34Ck: help me fix my pc and we can continue subliminal discussions.
[02:43] <siv0x> Tomcat_: would you happin to know anything about steam or wine?
[02:43] <Phr34Ck> This windows/linux discussion is a never ending quest.
[02:43] <Phr34Ck> Acidictadpole, what's wrong with your pc?
[02:43] <Acidictadpole> Phr34Ck: My computer, windows is easier to learn, wont boot up.
[02:43] <Acidictadpole> haha ok il stop
[02:43] <Acidictadpole> but seriously.
[02:43] <Phr34Ck> Well, format it and install Ubuntu ;p
[02:43] <Acidictadpole> it has ubuntu
[02:44] <Phr34Ck> So what happened?
[02:44] <Phr34Ck> You installed ubuntu and now windows is not booting ?
[02:44] <Acidictadpole> my dual boot got messed up because the hard drive which grub points to died.
[02:44] <Acidictadpole> and I cant boot liveecd
[02:44] <siv0x> Did this channel suddenly turn into an #ubuntu-offtopic channel?
[02:44] <Acidictadpole> for an unknown reason.
[02:44] <Acidictadpole> rephrase: I can boot it.. it wont launch right.
[02:44] <Phr34Ck> Aha.
[02:45] <Acidictadpole> screen just goes blank when i hit enter at the splash.
[02:45] <Webmaster> Acidictadpole,  remove W$ it's paying licenc es for nothing
[02:45] <siv0x> Acidictadpole: mine just says "cannot display this video mode" or something like that
[02:45] <Phr34Ck> you cannot reconfigure grub?
[02:45] <Webmaster> Use ubuntu and wine and you will feel like if you are in paradise
[02:45] <Acidictadpole> Webmaster: what?
[02:46] <Webmaster> Remove W$ (that Bill's Os)
[02:46] <Acidictadpole> Phr34Ck: yea GRUB gives me error 21, which i've found to be that it cant find the selected hard drive. And I have no OS that it will boot into
[02:46] <siv0x> webmaster: can you help me fix something in wine? please
[02:46] <daedra> no more propaganda peoples
[02:46] <Webmaster> siv0x,  i can in 15 min
[02:46] <Acidictadpole> Webmaster: I can't boot into anything right now so I have no prompt to remove anything. I also would not remove it because I use it to game.
[02:46] <Webmaster> my mome gonna kill me because i have to take my lunch
[02:47] <Webmaster> Acidictadpole,  : All games can work on ubuntu using Wine
[02:47] <Webmaster> ;)
[02:47] <QwertyM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22/ --> My f-spot doesnt work, gives this when I start it from the terminal, and in gui it appears 'loading' in taskbar and disappears.
[02:47] <Acidictadpole> Webmaster: go try Eve online then
[02:47] <Webmaster> Wine Is not emulator
[02:47] <Webmaster> ;)
[02:47] <Acidictadpole> Webmaster: it doesnt.
[02:47] <siv0x> webmaster: k i got time
[02:47] <Webmaster> Acidictadpole,  : Eve is working on wine
[02:47] <Webmaster> :d
[02:47] <daedra> Webmaster: ever tried funning F.E.A.R or Oblivion in wine...
[02:47] <Acidictadpole> Webmaster: not well enough for me unfortunately.
[02:48] <Webmaster> okies
[02:48] <Webmaster> brb
[02:48] <Webmaster> my mome really gonna kill me today
[02:48] <Webmaster> :d
[02:51] <santam> can any one help me to setup an Billion ADSL 7000 modem - I am stuck at the last step
[02:53] <Kista_Ubuntu> hello
[02:53] <santam> hello
[02:53] <kjghujfjbvghf> hello
[02:55] <santam> can anyone help with a ADSL modem installation - I ahve tried the forums - solutions given there are not working
[02:55] <Kista_Ubuntu> Whats up? Anyone that know about wireless stuff to laptops?
[02:55] <deepsa> hello
[02:55] <w3ccv> Kista_Ubuntu, what's your real question
[02:56] <deepsa> i have laptop with wireless connection in linux
[02:56] <IdleOne> !wifi | Kista_Ubuntu
[02:56] <ubotu> Kista_Ubuntu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:57] <santam> can anyone help me with an ADSL modem installation?
[02:57] <Kista_Ubuntu> I know but my question is this when I go round the menu to wireless assistance, then Ubuntu complains about SUDO. So I wonder if I could do this from the terminal instead?
[02:57] <Phr34Ck> What can I install mIRC on Ubuntu ?
[02:57] <Phr34Ck> or just any IRC client.
[02:57] <w3ccv> what do you mean " Ubuntu complains about SUDO."
[02:58] <IdleOne> Phr34Ck, mirc is a windows program
[02:58] <boabsta> Phr34Ck, try xchat2 or ircII
[02:58] <deepsa> use irssi
[02:58] <boabsta> Phr34Ck, xchat2 is GUI, ircII is command line
[02:58] <IdleOne> deepsa, if he wants mirc he will not be happy with irssi
[02:58] <Kista_Ubuntu> w3ccv: I mean that maybe I can start that program from the terminal instead?
[02:58] <Phr34Ck> I'll go with Xchat2 -)
[02:58] <deepsa> then use bitchX
[02:59] <w3ccv> Kista_Ubuntu, yes, but sudo will ask for your password - go ahead and use it
[02:59] <santam> hello?
[02:59] <deepsa> hello sant
[02:59] <QwertyM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22/ --> My f-spot doesnt work, gives this when I start it from the terminal, and in gui it appears 'loading' in taskbar and disappears. Lol @ 3rd time asking
[02:59] <santam> hello
[03:00] <santam> can you help me deepsa
[03:00] <Kista_Ubuntu> w3ccv: Yeah but that the problem, it did not ask a password, whats the command in terminal?
[03:00] <deepsa> ya santam
[03:00] <santam> thanks
[03:00] <deepsa> santam, np
[03:00] <Kista_Ubuntu> w3ccv:  You know, I want to start Wireless Assistant from the Terminal, but how?
[03:00] <IdleOne> Kista_Ubuntu, did you try this doc ?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:00] <santam> I will run through the problem I am facing
[03:00] <w3ccv> Kista_Ubuntu,   the command would be 'sudo <whatever command you want to do> "
[03:01] <w3ccv> Kista_Ubuntu, start it from the menus
[03:01] <boabsta> i have 2 modules installed for my webcam but the wrong one gets automatically loaded when i plug in the webcam - how do i delete one of those modules from the system?
[03:01] <santam> I have a BIPAC 7000 ADSL modem which I use to connect to the net
[03:01] <Kista_Ubuntu> w3ccv:  Yes, ok  hmm..... Maybe I can google the problem
[03:01] <siv0x> Kista_Ubuntu "nameofprogram" in terminal. =)
[03:01] <deepsa> boabsta, modprobe -r <wrong module>
[03:02] <santam> I have managed to get the ADSL line working according the solution proposed in the forum
[03:02] <Kista_Ubuntu> Dont know the program? The program in the menus is Wireless Assistant
[03:02] <boabsta> deepsa, cool, thanks very much - didnt realise modprobe did that - must read man pages, must read man pages, must read man pages, must read man pages, must read man pages lol
[03:02] <boabsta> thanks
[03:02] <deepsa> np
[03:02] <w3ccv> Kista_Ubuntu, I've given you the answers, sudo is there to protect you.  why don't youi go ahad and use it as intended.
[03:02] <jneves> anyone knows how to get a confirmation for a fax job submitted with sendfax?
[03:02] <kjghujfjbvghf> the menu editor says what command is run when you click something in the menu. have you looked at that to see what it says for wireless assistant?
[03:03] <santam> but I am unable to connect as I am unable to edit two files
[03:03] <Kista_Ubuntu> w3ccv:  because you dont know my problem. I know about sudo...hahaha!! I want to start something that I dont know the command to.
[03:03] <kjghujfjbvghf> check the menu editor
[03:03] <deepsa> which files
[03:03] <MuffY> back again/..
[03:03] <MuffY> i installed ubuntu now
[03:04] <w3ccv> Kista_Ubuntu, use the menus
[03:04] <w3ccv> Kista_Ubuntu, how long have you been using linux or Ubuntu?
[03:04] <MuffY> but i think i have the same problem as with the live installation, the screen goes black after the ubuntu logo with the progress bar
[03:04] <deepsa> santam, which files dude
[03:04] <Kista_Ubuntu> w3ccv:  yes, when I use the menu then Ubuntu complains that I have to try with Sudo hahaha!!!
[03:04] <boabsta> deepsa, that doesnt quite work - the module is re-registered when i plug in the cam - is it safe to just delete the module from the modules directory?
[03:04] <deepsa> boabsta, if it doesn't belong to your webcam do that
[03:05] <MuffY> i think i can change the VGA mode in this GRUB thing, but i don't know the commands to do so
[03:05] <siv0x> Kista_Ubuntu: then try with sudo ?
[03:05] <santam> etc/ppp/pap-secrets and etc/ppp/chap-secrets are the two files
[03:05] <Kista_Ubuntu> w3ccv: Youre answers suck like Ubuntus. I dont even get a chance from the menu to write sudo
[03:05] <deepsa> santam, what command you give to edit these two files?
[03:06] <bsharitt> Okay, I have a few pretty big issues with an update from dapper to edgy
[03:06] <santam> I tried editing it using the text editor
[03:06] <Kista_Ubuntu> siv0x:  OK ?   How?  whats the command ?  sudo  and what is the command???? to wireless assistant
[03:06] <bsharitt> First of all, dapper worked great
[03:06] <kjghujfjbvghf> Kista_Ubuntu : if you go into the menu editor and right click and choose properties it says what command is run. run that command with sudo in front of it
[03:06] <siv0x> Kista_Ubuntu: when you open the program look around for the program name.. once you see it, go to konsole and type it, if that doesnt work try "sudo programname"
[03:06] <deepsa> santam, you use gnome ? you have gedit?
[03:06] <siv0x> Kista_Ubuntu: I dont know the command to wireless assistant..
[03:06] <santam> yes
[03:06] <bsharitt> I updated it to Edgy and things broke
[03:06] <w3ccv> Kista_Ubuntu, no not sudo, start the networking command from the menus.
[03:07] <deepsa> santam, do this in command line sudo gedit /etc/ppp/pap-secrets and edit as you want and same goes for the second file
[03:07] <santam> ok thanks
[03:07] <bsharitt> The brown text on the ubuntu launch screen is new gray and messed up
[03:07] <siv0x> Kista_Ubuntu: I'm looking around though.. hrmm
[03:07] <Kista_Ubuntu> it said: sudo: wireless: command not found
[03:07] <santam> I am a complete noob at this
[03:07] <deepsa> Kista_Ubuntu, RTFM
[03:07] <santam> having used windiows till yesterday
[03:08] <deepsa> lol
[03:08] <santam> :-)
[03:08] <bsharitt> And when it does get to gdm, it seems to lock up after trying to log in
[03:08] <santam> thanks again I will log into ubuntu again and try that command
[03:08] <deepsa> k
[03:08] <bsharitt> and eveny more annoyingly, the already crappy startup sound starts looping on a small segment of it
[03:08] <bsharitt> any idea?
[03:08] <_raphael_> is there a way to test swap? I want to know if I assigned the correct partition
[03:09] <POVaddct> _raphael_: cat /proc/swaps
[03:09] <bsharitt> And it does this on a fresh install too
[03:09] <siv0x> Kista_Ubuntu: okay.. wireless assistant is: wlassistant - not sure what problem you are having with sudo though.
[03:10] <_raphael_> POVaddct: Used=0 and priority=-1. but it seems to be the correct part
[03:10] <POVaddct> _raphael_: yeah
[03:11] <_raphael_> POVaddct: what excactly does Used=0 mean?
[03:11] <POVaddct> _raphael_: the swap area is not used yet. all programs/buffers are in ram.
[03:12] <POVaddct> _raphael_: if processes consume more ram, the system will start to use swap
[03:12] <bsharitt> Okay, I have a few pretty big issues with an update from dapper to edgy First of all, dapper worked great I updated it to Edgy and things broke The brown text on the ubuntu launch screen is new gray and messed up And when it does get to gdm, it seems to lock up after trying to log in, or atleast gets so slow that I wont wait for it. and eveny more annoyingly, the already crappy startup sound starts looping on a small segment of it. Any ideas? And it do
[03:13] <ProN00b> whats the name of that command that turns installers (like make install) into packages ?
[03:13] <jneves> ProN00b: checkinstall
[03:14] <ProN00b> thanks
[03:14] <ProN00b> wait, will that work if the installer is interactive ?
[03:14] <siv0x> Would anyone know why i dont have sound on counter strike source, i'm running it on wine. and my sound card is an audigy 2 zs.
[03:15] <ProN00b> siv0x, do you have sound normally ?
[03:15] <Aardwolf> Hi, since I've been using ubuntu, I've been having more browser segmentation faults in one day, that in 2 years of usage of another distro - are browsers unstable in ubuntu breezy?
[03:15] <siv0x> ProNOOb: yes
[03:16] <siv0x> Aardwolf: dont know, but breezy is kinda outdated.
[03:16] <ProN00b> siv0x, then its a wine problem... did you check the wineHQ page on counter strike source ? you should also go to the winehq channel and ask there after you checked that page
[03:16] <Aardwolf> yeah breezy was the only cdrom lieing around :(
[03:16] <Aardwolf> *lying?
[03:16] <siv0x> ProNOOb: i've looked there, i've looked everywhere.. : (
[03:17] <siv0x> ProNOOb: i'm using alsa though, and in winecfg under audio what do i select?
[03:17] <ProN00b> siv0x, alsa and oss are the two things that work in most cases
[03:18] <siv0x> ProNOOb: it says this in terminal when i click the audio tab.
[03:18] <siv0x> siv0x@siv0x-desktop:~$ wine winecfg
[03:18] <siv0x> fixme:jack:JACK_drvLoad error loading the jack library libjack.so, please install this library to use jack
[03:18] <ProN00b> yeah
[03:18] <ProN00b> but you don't want to use jack
[03:18] <bsharitt> Okay, I have a few pretty big issues with an update from dapper to edgy First of all, dapper worked great I updated it to Edgy and things broke The brown text on the ubuntu launch screen is new gray and messed up And when it does get to gdm, it seems to lock up after trying to log in, or atleast gets so slow that I wont wait for it. and eveny more annoyingly, the already crappy startup sound starts looping on a small segment of it. Any ideas? And it do
[03:18] <gostview> hi all
[03:18] <ProN00b> siv0x, or does that keep winecfg from starting ?
[03:18] <siv0x> ProNOOb: okay is that the problem with why i dont have sound?
[03:19] <siv0x> ProNOOb: no when winecfg starts, and i click audio, i get that error.
[03:19] <ProN00b> does your winecfg close when you klick the audio tab ?
[03:19] <siv0x> ProNOOb: No.
[03:19] <ProN00b> well, then thats not a problem
[03:19] <ProN00b> jack is some strange audio output
[03:19] <gostview> someone could explain to me how to configure spamassassin on evolution,  I try to config it without any success
[03:19] <ProN00b> siv0x, just select alsa there and try, then select oss and try
[03:20] <siv0x> ProNOOb: i dont see anything that has anything to do with "jack"
[03:20] <aarohi> i'm having trouble configuring firestarter to work with squid server. i've configured squid correctly, but can't seem to open a port successfully. can anyone help please?
[03:20] <gostview> ...although I've followed the wiki ...
[03:21] <pvz> hello everybody.
[03:21] <siv0x> ProNOOb: Also i'm having a problem with Gecko Mozilla in wine.. I cant figure out how to install it and its a real pain.
[03:21] <gostview> ... it seem doesn't work properly on evolution.
[03:21] <ProN00b> siv0x, that doesn't matter
[03:21] <ProN00b> siv0x, those are wine problems, you should really go to the wine channel
[03:21] <pvz> i have a samsung digimax L50 digital camera,how can I make it "work" on ubuntu?
[03:22] <siv0x> ProNOOb: whats the wine channel?>
[03:22] <pvz> i tried digiKam,it won't work.
[03:22] <bsharitt> Okay, I have a few pretty big issues with an update from dapper to edgy First of all, dapper worked great I updated it to Edgy and things broke The brown text on the ubuntu launch screen is new gray and messed up And when it does get to gdm, it seems to lock up after trying to log in, or atleast gets so slow that I wont wait for it. and eveny more annoyingly, the already crappy startup sound starts looping on a small segment of it. Any ideas? And it do
[03:22] <ProN00b> siv0x, people on http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3731 say that you should use oss
[03:23] <bXi> is there some kde app which allows me to see any available wireless networks?
[03:23] <ProN00b> siv0x, #wiinehq
[03:23] <ProN00b> #winehq
[03:23] <siv0x> ProNOOb: To use OSS i wont have to change anything else except check the OSS box in audio right?
[03:23] <ProN00b> uncheck all other boxes checked
[03:24] <aarohi> can anyone help please? i can't set up firestarter with squid server
[03:24] <QwertyM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22/ --> My f-spot doesnt work, gives this when I start it from the terminal, and in gui it appears 'loading' in taskbar and disappears..
[03:24] <gostview> please, does anyone help me with spammassassin on evolution?
[03:25] <siv0x> ProNOOb: K they are.
[03:25] <bsharitt> Okay, I have a few pretty big issues with an update from dapper to edgy First of all, dapper worked great I updated it to Edgy and things broke The brown text on the ubuntu launch screen is new gray and messed up And when it does get to gdm, it seems to lock up after trying to log in, or atleast gets so slow that I wont wait for it. and eveny more annoyingly, the already crappy startup sound starts looping on a small segment of it. Any ideas? And it do
[03:25] <pvz> i have a samsung digimax L50 digital camera,how can I make it "work" on ubuntu?
[03:27] <Aardwolf> when I want to upgrade my breezy, I get the following message: "Could not calculate the upgrade" "A unresolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade. Please report this as a bug. ". There's no indication of what this unresolvable problem is. How can I upgrade to dapper anyway?
[03:27] <[A] ndy80> Hi, I installed Compiz using this tutorial: http://www.go-compiz.org/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Installation_Guide and I configured AIGLX using the howto on Ubuntu Help website. I've nVidia 5200, Ubuntu Edgy. The installatione is fine but when I enable "GL  Desktop" from the gnome-compiz tray icon, all windows borders disappear. If I disable it again, all windows borders appear again. It's like the composite manage was not loaded.... how can I fix it?
[03:28] <bsharitt> Okay, I have a few pretty big issues with an update from dapper to edgy First of all, dapper worked great I updated it to Edgy and things broke The brown text on the ubuntu launch screen is new gray and messed up And when it does get to gdm, it seems to lock up after trying to log in, or atleast gets so slow that I wont wait for it. and eveny more annoyingly, the already crappy startup sound starts looping on a small segment of it. Any ideas? And it do
[03:29] <pvz> i have a samsung digimax L50,how can I make it "work" on ubuntu?it doesn't show up as a usbdisk,and digiKam won't recognize it.
[03:29] <KenThomson> a
[03:32] <dmc_> Anyone know how to disable a Screensaver in Gnome via Command Line?
[03:33] <Paladine> !codecs
[03:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:37] <bds> dmc_: is the screensaver running?
[03:37] <TheNabb> heya, got some problem setting up glftpd...that (x)inetd..
[03:37] <bds> I mean can you not see the desktop?
[03:37] <Aardwolf> when I want to upgrade my breezy, I get the following message: "Could not calculate the upgrade" "A unresolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade. Please report this as a bug. ". There's no indication of what this unresolvable problem is. How can I upgrade to dapper anyway?
[03:37] <gostview> someone could explain to me how to configure spamassassin on evolution,  I try to config it without any success
[03:38] <gostview> although I've followed the wiki
[03:38] <gostview>  it seem doesn't work properly on evolution.
[03:40] <Maheanuu> good morning everyone
[03:40] <Jeruvy> gostview: if you don't tell us whats wrong or what you did, then *certainly* we cannot help you.  if you need to post details in config or error msg's pls use pastebin service and post link.
[03:40] <bds> morning :)
[03:41] <gostview> Jeruvy> no error, simple doesn't filter spam
[03:41] <KenThomson> HELP: I plugged in my Microphone, and started to do recording via Sound and Video>Sound recorder
[03:41] <MuffY> anyone knows hwo to set a VGA mode in grub?
[03:41] <gostview> no way!
[03:41] <MuffY> i can't find a table with the modes
[03:42] <Jeruvy> gostview: I would suggest you review the documentation on spamassassin
[03:43] <gostview> Jeruvy> I done it, I've read and read many wiki, but seem don't filter nothing
[03:43] <POVaddct> MuffY: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt
[03:43] <KenThomson> HELP: I plugged in my Microphone, and started to do recording via Sound and Video>Sound recorder, at first i thought no recording was being done, but on sticking my ear to the speaker i heard a extremely faint recording. SO i turned up all the volumes, but still the recording is done at such low volume that the output is not AUDIBLE. PLease help how do i change the volume at which the mic records? IN volume control>MIcrophone, i have set full volume for mic
[03:43] <MuffY> POVaddct: ty, but i can't boot ubunut
[03:43] <MuffY> well, i can
[03:43] <Seveas> KenThomson, there usually is a microphone boost setting
[03:43] <Seveas> KenThomson, try alsamixer in a terminal
[03:43] <KenThomson> Seveas: ok
[03:43] <MuffY> but the screen goes black after the loading thingie
[03:44] <MuffY> =(
[03:44] <Maheanuu> I have found a site that has a really good walk thru for setting up raid in Ubuntu. If you have a hankering for RaidX on your machine, you might want to take a gander at this.  http://www.economysizegeek.com/2006/07/15/migrate-raid1-to-raid5-and-grow/
[03:44] <Jeruvy> gostview: then why do you think it is not blocking your spam?  What does spam assassin add to the headers for your emails?
[03:44] <KenThomson> Seveas: Mic boost  (+20db) [off] , how do i turn it on?
[03:45] <Seveas> KenThomson, hit the m
[03:45] <cesar_> hello world
[03:45] <cesar_> I have the last version of KNOPPIX
[03:45] <Seveas> KenThomson, move with  cursor keys to the thing and hit m
[03:45] <cesar_> 5.1
[03:45] <MuffY> ty POVaddct
[03:45] <cesar_> it's out 1 day ago
[03:45] <KenThomson> Seveas: ok it worked, and then i simply close the terminal window or what?
[03:45] <cesar_> I strongly recommend
[03:45] <cesar_> you
[03:46] <Maheanuu> how do I determine my kernal version in Dapper?
[03:46] <Seveas> KenThomson, hit escape to close alsamixer or simply close the window
[03:46] <baba-andrea> hi guys
[03:46] <Seveas> Maheanuu, uname -r
[03:46] <gostview> Jeruvy> nothing, that why I think it doesn't work properly
[03:46] <Jeruvy> gostview: then review your logs
[03:46] <Maheanuu> Thanx Seveas!
[03:46] <baba-andrea> can I ask you one thing
[03:46] <Jeruvy> gostview: if you don't explain the problem, or know what you did wrong then we cannot assist.
[03:46] <KenThomson> Seveas: still the recording is done at almost-silent volume, what do i do?
[03:46] <cesar_> you can install it to the hard disk using the command "knoppix-installer"
[03:47] <cesar_> or just have fun using the live cd or dvd
[03:47] <dvheumen> hi guys
[03:47] <cesar_> sure
[03:47] <Jeruvy> gostview: how do you know it's installed properly?  how do you know it's running?  how do you know it's configured properly...etc.etc.etc.
[03:47] <Seveas> KenThomson, open alsamixer again, hit tab until you've switched to recording view and then look at the volume indicators
[03:47] <dvheumen> does someone know how to disable the KDED Media Manager if it refuses to stop using the 'Stop' button?
[03:48] <pvz> i have a samsung digimax L50,how can I make it "work" on ubuntu?it doesn't show up as a usbdisk,and digiKam won't recognize it.
[03:48] <pvz> i am trying to install the drivers with wine,but i'm not sure how that will work.
[03:48] <KenThomson> Seveas: view: [playback]  [capture]  [all] , which one? and once there what do i see?
[03:48] <baba-andrea> I have a pcmcia ethernet card xircom CE3-10/100 that is right recognize but it is not online
[03:49] <gostview> Jeruvy> The only thing that I could do at this point is to paste my local.cf  here, could you, please, read it?
[03:49] <AoA> can somebody send me xorg.conf with modeline ? or paste me on pastebin
[03:49] <Jeruvy> gostview: use a pastebin
[03:49] <Seveas> KenThomson, capture, you'll see a similar screen to what you see now
[03:49] <dmc_> Anyone know how to disable the Gnome Screensaver via Command Line?
[03:49] <KenThomson> Seveas: in the "capture" view, when i speak in the mic, no meters/bars are moving when i speak in the mic
[03:50] <gostview> ok... just a minute
[03:50] <saraeluca2000> bo
[03:50] <Seveas> KenThomson, no, they indicate the current volum settings, use arrow keys to change
[03:50] <KenThomson> Seveas: in fact, in none of the three modes, any bars/meters are moving as i speak into the mic
[03:51] <KenThomson> Seveas: ok
[03:51] <SpacePuppy> Happy end of 2006!
[03:51] <gostview> Jeruvy> here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29/
[03:51] <KenThomson> Seveas: It worked, you are my HERO!!! :) :) :)
[03:51] <KenThomson> :)
[03:52] <dmc_> Anyone know how to disable the Gnome Screensaver via Command Line?
[03:52] <derrik> dmc_ : sudo killall gnome-screensaver
[03:52] <chuchi> hola
[03:52] <dmc_> derrik: thank u
[03:52] <derrik> dmc_ np
[03:52] <Seveas> KenThomson, you're welcome :)
[03:53] <KenThomson> Seveas: Shouldn't they have given a GUI way of doing these things, or are you going to sit around here helping all the people who have a simple mic? :) (no offence whatsoever meant)
[03:53] <NickVolcano> hi everybody i've a question
[03:53] <Seveas> KenThomson, the gui in applications -> sound & video can do this as well, but I forgot the details and was too lazy too look it up (or open the application)
[03:53] <Seveas> !ask | NickVolcano
[03:53] <ubotu> NickVolcano: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:54] <baba-andrea> hi guys I have Xircom pcmcia ethernet card that is recognize but isn't function
[03:54] <NickVolcano> ok sorry...i've installed ubuntu on a pc & now I'd like to format that pc
[03:54] <KenThomson> Seveas: looks, i better get comfortable with the GUI before i loose my patience with Linux, if i want to make any foray into the Linux world :)
[03:55] <KenThomson> NickVolcano: So whats the problem, format the HDD with whatever partition manager you use and ubuntu like everything else shall be wiped off
[03:55] <KenThomson> NickVolcano: what exactly is your question?
[03:55] <Acidictadpole> does anyone know the difference with Serial ATA and Parallel ATA when it comes to compatability?
[03:56] <KenThomson> Acidictadpole: compatibility with motherboards or what?
[03:56] <gostview> Jeruvy> here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29/
[03:57] <Acidictadpole> KenThomson: Yea, i need to buy another hard drive.. and FS has a really good deal on a PATA drive.. Im just not sure if it would be compatable with my pc or not.
[03:57] <MuffY> does ubuntu have problems with nvidia cards or am i just doing stupid things? The ubuntu loading screen shows up, but if it's done, the screen goes black
[03:57] <KenThomson> Acidictadpole: Older MBDs cant use SATA drives, you need to buy a external sata-card to plug-in the SATA drive on a non-SATA supporting MBD, Is that useful?
[03:57] <NickVolcano> I want to format my HDD
[03:57] <MuffY> i have an nVidia 6800, is it unsupported or something :/
[03:57] <Acidictadpole> KenThomson: so if my mobo can support SATA is can support PATA>
[03:58] <KenThomson> Acidictadpole: Open up your cabinet and look on the MBDs base for some 2-3-4 really small and sleek connecting ports, and google-image for a SATA port's photo and see if that exists, or alternatively see your MBDs manual for a SATA port, generally the diagram of the MBD in the manual labels them clearly if they exist
[03:58] <KenThomson> Acidictadpole: without a doubt it can support PATA
[03:58] <gostview> Jeruvy> I've installed spamassassin, configured the local.cf, what more?!
[03:58] <KenThomson> Acidictadpole: All MBDs support PATA, dont worry?
[03:58] <Acidictadpole> KenThomson: so that's a yes.. when you have SATA support you can use a PATA drive
[03:58] <Acidictadpole> ok, thanks.
[03:59] <KenThomson> Acidictadpole: yeah, a SATA supporting MBD can support PATA
[03:59] <gostview> Jeruvy> I've configured evolution wiht in pipe to /usr/bin/spamassassin ...
[03:59] <KenThomson> Acidictadpole: PATA is what probably you are using, if you dont know what SATA is. :)
[03:59] <Acidictadpole> KenThomson: I do, i just hadn't heard of PATA before :P
[03:59] <Acidictadpole> KenThomson: Not called that anyway.
[03:59] <dmc_> Acidictadpole: PATA= IDE
[04:00] <Acidictadpole> dmc_: Thanks
[04:00] <gostview> in the filter rules... there something I forgot?
[04:00] <MuffY> my screen goes black if i boot ubuntu, though the loading screen does show up (but after it  loads it turns black)
[04:01] <MuffY> i have an nVidia 6800, is that it?
[04:01] <MuffY> unsupported or something?
[04:01] <KenThomson> MuffY: Its supported alright
[04:01] <MuffY> k
[04:01] <MuffY> any mode you think will make it work?
[04:01] <KenThomson> MuffY: what happens exactly, you use 6.10? And you see the splash screen fillup and than you dont get anything to put your username/password is it that?
[04:01] <MuffY> yes, 6.10
[04:01] <MuffY> yes
[04:02] <MuffY> exeactly
[04:02] <KenThomson> MuffY: Is that PC accessible right now?
[04:02] <MuffY> yes
[04:02] <MuffY> it's at the GRUB screne
[04:02] <MuffY> this is my moms latop
[04:02] <KenThomson> MuffY: Does the screen simply go black or is there some text of any kind being displayed?
[04:02] <MuffY> no, it goes black
[04:02] <MuffY> though the loader does show up
[04:03] <NickVolcano> is not contemplate that a pc with ubuntu could be formatted?
[04:03] <KenThomson> MuffY: Press and hold left-ctrl, left-alt, f1 together for 3 seconds on that PC, when the screen has gone black after the splash screen has been shown
[04:03] <MuffY> k, it's booting
[04:03] <KenThomson> NickVolcano: As i said, what do you want to know, "how to format a PC" or what?
[04:03] <MuffY> *splash screen*
[04:04] <KenThomson> NickVolcano: Do you want to format the PC using UbuntuLIveCD, or WIndows XP CD or what? What exaclty is the question?
[04:04] <NickVolcano> what do you want to know?? what?
[04:04] <MuffY> KenThomson nothing happens
[04:04] <Acidictadpole> KenThomson: what does ctrl+alt f1 for three seconds tell it to do?
[04:04] <KenThomson> MuffY: Did the splash screen fillup alright?
[04:04] <MuffY> yes
[04:04] <NickVolcano> I have windows 98 cd (sec edition)
[04:04] <rretzbach> Hi.
[04:05] <KenThomson> MuffY: try it once more, it is stubborn at times, press and hold left ctrl-alt-f together for three seconds, and see what happens
[04:05] <baba-andrea> quit
[04:05] <NickVolcano> and I would remove ubuntu to install win98
[04:05] <MuffY> F1 or f :/
[04:05] <KenThomson> NickVolcano: You want to completely format the PC, completely remove everything?
[04:05] <KenThomson> MuffY: F-one
[04:05] <NickVolcano> yes!
[04:05] <MuffY> k
[04:05] <MuffY> nothing
[04:05] <KenThomson> NickVolcano: You have the Ubuntu LIve CD nearby?
[04:05] <rretzbach> I installed wmii per apt, but it only starts on the left screen. How can I make it start on both? fb, gnome, fvwm all other start on both screens :(
[04:06] <NickVolcano> I downloaded the iso file
[04:06] <NickVolcano> and burned the cd. I have that cd
[04:06] <Acidictadpole> MuffY: Tell me your problem quickly, i may have the same problem and if that solution works i am going to try it.
[04:07] <bdgraue> hi all, some political allowed?
[04:07] <MuffY> Acidictadpole: splash screen shows up
[04:07] <MuffY> but after it shows up, the screen goes blank
[04:07] <KenThomson> MuffY: Restart that laptop once more, and after the splash screen shows, press and hold left-ctrl left-alt f-one for three seconds, if that works, there is a little process we can do to get yout GUI back, if that doesn't work than you are out of luck. But re-boot and do what i told you, IT SHOULD WORK
[04:07] <bjames> does anyone know how to view a samba share from a windows machine? (set up on Ubuntu)
[04:07] <MuffY> it doesn't work
[04:07] <MuffY> i press and hold left ctrl, left alt, and F1
[04:08] <MuffY> but nothing happens on the screen
[04:08] <MuffY> oh wait
[04:08] <Anarchy> aight maybe someone can help me ... where can I find this patch for ati-drivers for 2.6.20
[04:08] <MuffY> lemme try something (back in 2 mins)
[04:08] <KenThomson> NickVolcano: Pop-in the ubuntu live cd, go into your computer's BIOS and set the boot sequence to boot from cd first, than restart the PC, ubuntu liveCD, shall bootup, click on start/install. After that go to System>Administration>gparted.
[04:08] <KenThomson> NickVolcano: Are you following me? How many HDDs do you have?
[04:09] <bjames> anyone have experience with SAMBA?
[04:09] <NickVolcano> wait I'll try, I've 1 HDD
[04:09] <KenThomson> bjames: sorry, can;t help you
[04:09] <Anarchy> so noone knows
[04:09] <Anarchy> hrrm
[04:10] <MuffY> KenThomson: if i look in the GRUB thingie (before booting up), it doesn't say anything about a video mode, maybe i should put one there?
[04:10] <derrik> bjames: i've messed around with samba for a while
[04:11] <MuffY> KenThomson: I had the same problem with the Live CD, but after changing the VGA mode to 640x480-16 it worke fine
[04:11] <siv0x> how do i setup ALSAs OSS emulation ?
[04:11] <MuffY> worked**
[04:11] <dmc_> Whats the easiest way to install WINE?
[04:11] <bjames> derrik: how do I access a samba share from windows?
[04:11] <KenThomson> NickVolcano: Copy and keep all that i am saying safe. After ubuntu LivdCD has booted up, go to "gparted" and it shall load. Then simply right-click on one or more partitions that are shown in the graphical bar at the top. Right-click each partition and select "remove", after you have removed all partitions in a similar way. Your HDDs bar will show a completely gray picture. Now click on "apply". And your HDD shall be made completely new, everything shall be
[04:11] <MuffY> though the resolution i got was no way 640x480, more like 1024x768
[04:11] <KenThomson> NickVolcano: Hope that helps
[04:11] <la> hi
[04:12] <derrik> bjames: if you have it installed correctly on ubuntu you should be able to browse the folder in network neighborhood
[04:12] <la> ////////////////////////////////////////////////
[04:12] <siv0x> Anyone?
[04:12] <bjames> derrik: I don't need to enable it in windows anywhere then?
[04:12] <la> [] 
[04:12] <Anarchy> wtf kind of patch is this http://rafb.net/p/NoWt3d86.nln.html
[04:12] <MuffY> KenThomson: read my thing about the Live CD?
[04:13] <KenThomson> MuffY: Are you really sure ctrl-alt-fONE is not working?
[04:13] <MuffY> yes
[04:13] <la>   jh
[04:13] <KenThomson> MuffY: i read it
[04:13] <NickVolcano> mm don't run the cd
[04:13] <dmc_> Whats the easiest way to install WINE?
[04:13] <derrik> bjames: right as long as its on the the same network and theres no firewall blocking it, it should show up
[04:13] <la> 
[04:13] <KenThomson> dmc_: Open add/remove and select wine, and click install
[04:13] <la>  
[04:13] <bjames> derrik: where is network neighbourhood?
[04:13] <dmc_> KenThomson: thanks
[04:13] <la>  
[04:13] <la> u jhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhnnnnnn
[04:14] <la> ] cv[
[04:14] <KenThomson> dmc_: Anytime?
[04:14] <bjames> I can get to "My network places | Entire network"
[04:14] <MuffY> KenThomson: maybe this is worth noting, the screen stays on, it doesn't gop in standby mode (that happened in windows if fif did spooky things with the resolution or the VGA drivers)
[04:14] <la> dddddddd\
[04:14] <zenit> la: get thet cat off your keyboard
[04:14] <derrik> bjames: sorry 'my network places' in windows xp, not network neighborhood
[04:14] <KenThomson> MuffY: I am really rusty with GRUB editing.
[04:14] <derrik> bjames: its on the start menu
[04:14] <MuffY> =p
[04:14] <la> dddddddd\                   =\
[04:14] <bjames> derrik: I think I found it
[04:14] <MuffY> i've never done it xD
[04:14] <Anarchy> where do the devs hang
[04:15] <la> U P'??????pppppppppppppppp56=\[04:15] <KenThomson> MuffY: Can you one more time try ctrl-alt-f-ONE, at that black screen a couple of times, it SHOULD work
[04:15] <la> NJ
[04:15] <MuffY> anyway, thanks for your patience and help, KenThomson
[04:15] <MuffY> ok
[04:15] <KenThomson> MuffY: Anytime, you are welcome
[04:15] <KenThomson> MuffY: If that doesn't work, are you having dual boot?
[04:15] <MuffY> yes
[04:16] <IndyGunFreak> what is the terminal command to extract a tar file to a folder that requires root access?  I'm tryin to extract a theme to /usr/share/themes  The Tar file is on my desktop, and I have no problem extracting it via terminal to my desktop, just don't know how to do it to another folder
[04:16] <MuffY> but the dual boot isn't working xD
[04:16] <KenThomson> MuffY: You are trying to run 6.10 on a laptop with Windows XP also right?
[04:16] <MuffY> it doesn't show my windows installation =p
[04:16] <KenThomson> MuffY: Did you install Ubuntu after windows?
[04:16] <MuffY> Ino, i'm on a laptop now, the dual boot with winxp is on my box
[04:16] <MuffY> yes, after windows
[04:16] <bjames> derrik: "My network places | Microsoft windows network | Mshome" and then the PC slows right down and the explorer window goes to "Not responding"
[04:16] <bjames> derrik: as if searching and unable to find anything
[04:17] <KenThomson> MuffY: and in the laptop, in the GRUB there is no such option as Windows, and ubuntu is not working, right?
[04:17] <MuffY> the laptop is a windows machine
[04:17] <bjames> derrik: "Mshome is not accessible, you might not have permission to use this nework resouce..."
[04:17] <MuffY> i am on it now, my normal computer is having trouble
[04:17] <KenThomson> MuffY: ok ok
[04:17] <MuffY> in GRUB windows doens't show up on my normal computer
[04:17] <KenThomson> MuffY: and does the PC have dualboot?
[04:17] <derrik> bjames: yeah i had a similar problem. it was either because i had a firewall running, or samba wasn't set up correctly.
[04:17] <KenThomson> MuffY: ok do you have a liveCD?
[04:18] <MuffY> it should have, but it doesn't show my Windows installation
[04:18] <bjames> derrik: possibly both for me
[04:18] <MuffY> yes, i have, i installed ubuntu with it
[04:18] <KenThomson> MuffY: Pop-it in and run Ubuntu from liveCD
[04:18] <bjames> derrik: I have a firewall and I'm not sure about Samab being installed right
[04:18] <siv0x> how do i setup ALSAs OSS emulation ?
[04:18] <MuffY> i did, that worked fine
[04:18] <MuffY> i installed ubuntu with it
[04:18] <MuffY> that didn;t work fine
[04:18] <KenThomson> MuffY: i know, but we are going to edit some files with it on your HDD, so do it now
[04:18] <derrik> bjames: firewall on ubuntu, windows, or both?
[04:18] <MuffY> ok
[04:19] <MuffY> lemme boot it
[04:19] <bjames> derrik: windows firewall and router firewall
[04:19] <bjames> derrik: I don't think iptables is set up (at least not by me)
[04:19] <KenThomson> MuffY: Is this the first-time you are starting ubuntu and it is not working or have you used that thing before? And any idea what caused the black screen?
[04:19] <MuffY> i have never ever used any linux distro before
[04:19] <Sigit> hai
[04:20] <MuffY> the Live CD had the same problem, but changing the VGA mode helped
[04:20] <derrik> bjames: hmm. make sure the windows firewall will allowing file sharing within the LAN
[04:20] <bjames> derrik: ok...
[04:20] <KenThomson> MuffY: My question is, Have you ever succesfully booted-up and used Ubuntu on the PC or is this the first-time you are starting it and it is failing?
[04:20] <MuffY> it is the first time
[04:20] <KenThomson> MuffY: Moreover, start that liveCD with whatever way you did it the first time
[04:21] <MuffY> the live thing worked fine, but the ubuntu on my HDD never worked once
[04:21] <KenThomson> MuffY: Did that install go on correctly? After the install did Ubuntu ask you "keep using live cd" or "restart"?
[04:21] <bjames> derrik: file and printer sharing is enabled on the windows firewall - is that right?
[04:21] <MuffY> yes, it asked
[04:21] <KenThomson> KenThomson: And then finally asked you to remove the CD and press <enter>?
[04:21] <MuffY> it said i had to remove the Live CD to boot up the proper way
[04:21] <MuffY> yes
[04:21] <MuffY> though it hanged
[04:21] <jonah1980> hi guys, i'm trying to add the trash/deleted items folder to my dock - dragging it doesn't work and i wondered if there was a way to make a shortcut or launcher and drag that onto the dock? but putting trash: in launcher doesn;t work
[04:21] <MuffY> it ejected the CD
[04:22] <KenThomson> MuffY: when did it eject the CD, at that black screen?
[04:22] <MuffY> no
[04:22] <KenThomson> MuffY: it ejected the CD after you chose "re-start" right?
[04:22] <Acidictadpole> KenThomson: I'm relatively unaware when it comes to configuring GRUB. would you be able to help me correct a problem?
[04:22] <bjames> derrik: also it's set up to tell me if it's blocked anything and it didn't
[04:22] <Acidictadpole> MuffY: Is your hard drive light solid on when your screen goes blank?
[04:22] <MuffY> there was a progress bar, going the "wrong"way (it became less filled)
[04:22] <KenThomson> Acidictadpole: Go ahead, i shall try
[04:22] <KenThomson> MuffY: no that was correct :)
[04:22] <MuffY> hard drive light?
[04:22] <MuffY> ah i know
[04:22] <derrik> bjames: this is the windows firewall, correct?
[04:22] <MuffY> no
[04:22] <MuffY> it flickers a bit
[04:22] <bjames> derrik: yes
[04:22] <MuffY> if i press your buttons
[04:23] <Acidictadpole> KenThomson: I had a dual boot set up on two hard drives and the one which GRUb pointed to died.
[04:23] <KenThomson> MuffY: It was shutting down, so it had to de-fill itself, basically ubuntu is installed correctly on your PC
[04:23] <MuffY> i thought the same way
[04:23] <KenThomson> MuffY: Did the liveCD boot correctly?
[04:23] <MuffY> i forgot which VGA mode to use, so i'm trying to find it now first attempt failed)
[04:23] <KenThomson> Acidictadpole: GRUB pointed to, meaning what? Are you talking about the HDD that had GRUB on the MBR? or what?
[04:24] <KenThomson> MuffY: Go ahead and start that CD, after that we can do some work :)
[04:24] <MuffY> yes i know :p
[04:24] <MuffY> I'll hl you when it's up and running
[04:24] <KenThomson> Is there no-body else around to help? Or is everyone busy getting DRUNK? :)
[04:24] <MuffY> mmm beer
[04:24] <MuffY> you can't blame them
[04:24] <Acidictadpole> KenThomson: I dont know TBh, im very ignorant when it comes to MBR's and such. I know that GRUB was installed on the drive which died... now when I try to boot to the other one I get error 21.. (Selected hard drive not found)
[04:24] <MuffY> it's almost new year
[04:25] <derrik> bjames: yeah in the exceptions tab make sure the file and print sharing is checked
[04:25] <bjames> derrik: it is
[04:25] <bjames> derrik: do I need to add any ports to my router exception table?
[04:26] <KenThomson> Acidictadpole: "TBh" what is that?
[04:26] <KenThomson> Acidictadpole: So on the PC, are you able to see a GRUB menu, and out of that MENU what are all the items that are functional?
[04:26] <derrik> bjames: no that should ok by default
[04:26] <MuffY> oh lord, the screen is acting funny again, but at least it's up
[04:26] <TehBigToe> to be honest
[04:26] <MuffY> KenThomson: Live CD is up (sortof)
[04:27] <KenThomson> MuffY: Can you see the screen and such stuff properly? than it should do
[04:27] <[BTF] Chm0d> happy new year everyone Ill probably be off here for the rest of the day
[04:27] <Acidictadpole> KenThomson: To be honest with cap typos
[04:27] <Acidictadpole> KenThomson: and i dont get to the menu.. the hard drive which died was the main GRUB loader one.
[04:28] <MuffY> (the screen is quite fucked up, it is showing tiself three times and it's all shivering, but at least i can see the desktop and recognise it and read what things say)
[04:28] <siv0x> how do i setup ALSAs OSS emulation?
[04:28] <DBO> !ohmy | MuffY
[04:28] <ubotu> MuffY: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:28] <MuffY> ?
[04:28] <MuffY> oh sorry
[04:28] <MuffY> my apologies
[04:28] <DBO> its cool
[04:29] <KenThomson> MuffY: ok, applications>accessories>terminal
[04:29] <MuffY> the screen is acting funny**
[04:29] <MuffY> yay
[04:29] <MuffY> terminal
[04:29] <KenThomson> MuffY: First go to System>administration>gparted
[04:29] <MuffY> in the terminal?
[04:29] <bjames> derrik: I'm not sure if Samba is set up right - I installed it at the command line and in Linux it is checked under "services" so it's on ( ? ) and I right clicked and shared a folder (/tmp just for the sake of it)
[04:30] <KenThomson> MuffY: no that is another thing
[04:30] <MuffY> ok
[04:30] <KenThomson> MuffY: Do it from the launch panel
[04:30] <MuffY> (GNOME partition editor is the same, right?)
[04:30] <KenThomson> MuffY: you are just having one single HDD, is that correct, or do you have more than one HDD?
[04:30] <KenThomson> MuffY: ya
[04:31] <MuffY> i have two HDDs, i made the Ubuntu partition on the master, and a swap partition on the other
[04:31] <Acidictadpole> KenThomson: did you see my last message?
[04:31] <QwertyM> When I run frostwire it doesnt start, so when I try from the terminal, it says this "runFrost.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")
[04:31] <jonah1980> hello how do you launch the trash bin from terminal. is it something like "nautilus trash:"
[04:31] <cesar_> I know the answer
[04:32] <cesar_> QwertyM
[04:32] <KenThomson> Acidictadpole: what happens exactly when you boot-up the computer, what menu entries do you see and what are functional?
[04:32] <QwertyM> cesar_, can I know it?
[04:32] <MuffY> and there are loads of partitions on each (well, three on each to be exact ;p), but i guess that doesn't matter?
[04:32] <AoA> does somebody succesfuly compild 537 intel modem driver ?
[04:32] <jonah1980> and does anyone know where the trash icon is stored?
[04:32] <KenThomson> MuffY: There are two HDDs, Ubuntu is running from MASTER, and Windows is on SLAVE right?
[04:32] <derrik> bjames: if you try ps -ef | grep smbd on the command line, that should let you know if the process is running
[04:32] <cesar_> Try to install or reinstall Java JVE last version.
[04:32] <MuffY> windows is also on the master
[04:32] <Acidictadpole> KenThomson: It does it post-BIOS beep.. and then Grub tells me: Error 21. and halts the PC
[04:32] <jhaig> What do people recommend for video editing in Ubuntu?
[04:32] <cesar_> before
[04:33] <mensur> Hi! im trying to install a plugin for banshee.,,, and trying to compile it but its asking for mono.. it's saying mono is not installed but i have installed it.-.. also mono-devel is installed... any ideas???
[04:33] <MuffY> at the front of the drive
[04:33] <jevangelo> hey, how do you get .wma support
[04:33] <KenThomson> Acidictadpole: ok
[04:33] <cesar_> Frostwire needs java to run
[04:33] <cesar_> as well as Limewire
[04:33] <KenThomson> MuffY: please prefix your messages with "KenThomson" as it is difficult for me to see
[04:33] <MuffY> (partition magic (windows) said windows would be bootable i i made the partition fter the 1024 cilinder boundrary)
[04:33] <MuffY> sorry
[04:33] <jevangelo> win32 codecs make wmv work, but not wma
[04:33] <jhaig> jevangelo: Use "EasyUbuntu" to get various multimedia support.
[04:34] <QwertyM> cesar_, I have sun java and azureus and other java apps like jflickr function pretty well
[04:34] <MuffY> KenThomson: windows is also on the master, at the beginning of the drive
[04:34] <jonah1980> jhaig, Kino is awesome for video editing
[04:34] <cesar_> but sometimes frostwire does not recognize the java is installed
[04:34] <KenThomson> MuffY: First we are going to make Windows show on GRUB, so i need to know everything about partitions
[04:34] <sonnie> hi there, I installed ubuntu 6.10 via PXE, then I installed windowsxp and failed to boot into ubuntu. how can I re-enter ubuntu via PXE again?
[04:34] <cesar_> reinstall it using automatix
[04:34] <MuffY> KenThomson: |windows|             ubuntu                 |FAT32 fiel share partition| << my master HDD
[04:34] <cesar_> it works for me
[04:35] <bjames> derrik: one second...
[04:35] <jhaig> jonah1980: Thanks.  Is that part of KDE?  Is there a Gnome equivalent?
[04:35] <KenThomson> MuffY: What are the partitions (in correct order, in the order that GRUB shows on that bar, from left to right) on MASTER and slave?
[04:35] <Nookie^> Hi! im trying to install a plugin for banshee.,,, and trying to compile it but its asking for mono.. it's saying mono is not installed but i have installed it.-.. also mono-devel is installed... any ideas???
[04:35] <cesar_> automatix provides with both java and frostwire clients
[04:35] <KenThomson> MuffY: ok, slave?
[04:35] <jhaig> I know I can still use KDE stuff, but it will install a whole load of extra libraries.  :-)
[04:35] <MuffY> KenThomson: |winswap|linux swap|free space| << slave disk
[04:35] <jonah1980> jhaig, i'm running it on gnome and it works really well. i don't know about gnome equiv, you'd have to google it i think to see if something similar
[04:35] <sonnie> I can obtain a KNOPPIX LIVE CD via PXE
[04:36] <MuffY>  KenThomson: |windows|             ubuntu                 |FAT32 fiel share partition| << my master HDD
[04:36] <bjames> derrik: ps -ef | grep smbd
[04:36] <MuffY> ole load of extra libraries.  :-)
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[04:36] <bjames> gives:
[04:36] <MuffY> oops
[04:36] <bjames> three instances
[04:36] <KenThomson> MuffY: Good, you are having Windows XP, right? And on the GRUB on right-clicking in top-right and selecting hd0, the MASTER SHOWS up, right?
[04:36] <MuffY>  KenThomson: |winswap|linux swap|free space| << slave disk
[04:36] <bjames> two root and one for my username
[04:36] <cesar_> I have the new Knoppix version
[04:36] <cesar_> 5.1
[04:36] <cesar_> the former was 5.0.1
[04:36] <jonah1980> hello anyone know where deleted items/wastebasket icon is, is it in pixmaps someplace or somewhere else?
[04:36] <MuffY> GRUB? you mean Gparted?
[04:36] <derrik> bjames: did that return anything?
[04:36] <KenThomson> Acidictadpole: Can you tell me how many HDDs did you have? And which HDD contained what OS? And out of that which is teh one that yo have currently removed?
[04:37] <jhaig> jonah1980: Do I need a special repository?  Synaptic cannot find kivo.
[04:37] <QwertyM> cesar_, okay, I'll try the one given with automatix then
[04:37] <bjames> derrik: yeah three instances - two for root and one for my username
[04:37] <cesar_> with automatix everything works well
[04:37] <eia768> i upgraded ubuntu to dapper and now the (/?) doesnt work on console (abnt-2 keyboad), and the console font only works when i execute setupcon ... what is going on with edgy?
[04:37] <KenThomson> MuffY: yeah gparted
[04:37] <Acidictadpole> KenThomson: HD0 contained windows. and that HDD is fine. HD1 (Ithink) contained Ubuntu, and that one is Dead, and was the main GRUB hard drive"
[04:37] <eia768> upgraded from dapper to edgy*
[04:37] <jonah1980> jhaig, kino not kivo
[04:38] <MuffY>  KenThomson:  it only shows hda and hdb
[04:38] <QwertyM> anyone knows how do I setup mplayer to really play stuff? it gives fatal errors for each avi (xvid/divx) I try
[04:38] <jonah1980> jhaig, it should be there in synaptic
[04:38] <QwertyM> Xine runs fine and so does totem
[04:38] <KenThomson> Acidictadpole: and currently you have removed the other HDD, right?
[04:38] <jhaig> jonah1980: Ah, that would make a difference.
[04:38] <derrik> bjames: ok so thats going good. hmm. it may have to do with the file permissions on the fold you'd like to share
[04:38] <KenThomson> MuffY: OK hda = master with windows|ubuntu|swap, in this order, right?
[04:38] <bjames> derrik: I've right clikced and set to share
[04:39] <MuffY>  KenThomson:  winxp is hda /dev/hda1, ubuntu is hda /dev/hda3, FAT32 is /dev/hda5
[04:39] <MuffY>  KenThomson: no, it's windows|ubuntu|FAT32 for file sharing between windows and linux
[04:39] <jhaig> jonah1980: I notice that the search for kino has brought up 'dvgrab'.  Do I need this, or does kino deal with connecting to cameras itself?
[04:39] <sonnie> hi there, I installed ubuntu 6.10 via PXE, then I installed windowsxp and failed to boot into ubuntu. how can I re-enter ubuntu via PXE again?
[04:39] <sonnie> I can obtain a KNOPPIX LIVE CD via PXE
[04:39] <eia768> it is as they say... ubuntu is crap...keyboard doesnt work
[04:39] <sonnie> btw: i have no CD-ROM
[04:39] <derrik> bjames: try this command 'chmod 777 /folderyouwanttoshare'
[04:39] <KenThomson> MuffY: from the graphical bar in gparted, on hda, you see windows|ubuntu|file-share, right?
[04:40] <MuffY> yes
[04:40] <bjames> derrik: ok
[04:40] <MuffY>  KenThomson: yes
[04:40] <cesar_> via torrent is better to get KNOPPIX
[04:40] <jonah1980> jhaig, kino uses a load of different thinks to work. if you install it, synaptic should add other stuff it needs for you
[04:40] <KenThomson> MuffY: good!, now you have a terminal open in background right?
[04:40] <cesar_> it's faster
[04:40] <MuffY> yes
[04:40] <IndyGunFreak> I downloaded a theme .tar file to my desktop, i can extract it to my desktop w/o issue from Terminal, but I need to know how to extract it to a folder that requires root access(/usr/share/themes)
[04:40] <MuffY>  KenThomson:  yes i have
[04:40] <KenThomson> MuffY: Come to the channel "kensworld" i will help you further there, as this is crowded
[04:40] <ddd_> hello all.
[04:40] <MuffY> KenThomson: ok
[04:40] <Nintendud> alright, I need some quick help o_o
[04:41] <KenThomson> MuffY: type "/join #kensworld" here
[04:41] <cesar_> shoot it
[04:41] <ddd_> how do i disable the icons on the buttons in GTK???
[04:41] <bjames> derrik: done
[04:41] <jonah1980> jhaig, not only does kino let you import your video from your camcorda etc, but you can edit it and then create dvd (it must use dvdgrab and a few things for that)
[04:41] <Nintendud> any reason why an ext3 partition would report WAY less space available than the difference between space used and total space?
[04:41] <jhaig> jonah1980: OK, will it didn't select dvgrab as a dependency, so I guess it doesn't need it.
[04:41] <[gen2] niki> Hello :o ive got a problem. my 2.6.20-2 and -3 generic wont boot
[04:41] <Nintendud> Example: /dev/hdd1             276G  250G   12G  96% /phantom (from df -h)
[04:41] <[gen2] niki> it always gives out:
[04:41] <derrik> bjames: try refreshing your network places and see if windows can see it now
[04:41] <KenThomson> Acidictadpole: sorry i couldn't help you much, but i gottu finish with one person first, if you are willing to wait come to "/join #kensworld" i shall help you there
[04:42] <bjames> derrik: ok
[04:42] <Nintendud> I've tried remounting, and it did nothing
[04:42] <[gen2] niki> /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[04:42] <jonah1980> jhaig, maybe it's optional, i've not installed it for ages only used it a few times, but not for a while. so can't remember how or when i got it working! haha
[04:42] <eia768> slackware is still the best... it takes a time to update, but it works... since i installed ubuntu i only see problems
[04:42] <jonah1980> does anyone know where the deleted items icon is kept?
[04:43] <Nintendud> Anyone have any ideas?
[04:43] <eia768> i have
[04:43] <Nintendud> for my problem, I mean
[04:43] <Nintendud> :P
[04:43] <jhaig> jonah1980: It wasn't even a 'recommended' package, and since Kino is described as a "DV" video editor, I suppose it must be built in.
[04:43] <eia768> i ll install slackware and be free again
[04:43] <bjames> derrik: it's having a think about it
[04:43] <Ramosa> hmm Amiga OS 4.0 just released
[04:44] <jonah1980> jhaig, i dunno couldn't say, just give it a blast haha trial and error approach
[04:45] <jhaig> jonah1980: Thanks.
[04:45] <Nintendud> I'll repeat my problem: For some reason, the free space available to write to on all of my EXT3 partitions is different from the total amount of space and the space currently being used (Example from df -h: /dev/hdd1             276G  250G   12G  96% /phantom). I noticed yesterday on this particular drive that I was losing roughly 1 gig per hour, without anything being downloaded to the drive.
[04:45] <jonah1980> jhaig, no worries, i wasn't very helpful - hope kino works out ok
[04:46] <jonah1980> anyone in here, i challenge you!!! where is the deleted items icon stored??
[04:46] <bjames> derrik: it still tells me "Mshome is not accessible"
[04:46] <Nintendud> It may be due to the fact that I was, in fact, downloading a large torrent at fast speeds to the drive, but that space was allocated and there should be no reason now that it would have taken any extra space (especially since it has already finished)
[04:46] <lupine_85> jonah1980: /usr/share/icons ?
[04:46] <Nintendud> (and since its folder never increased in size_
[04:46] <Nintendud> )
[04:47] <Nintendud> but then again, all my other ext3 drives, which were not being written to, have also mysteriously lost some space
[04:47] <Nintendud> anyone have any ideas for why this is happening?
[04:47] <deepsa> jonah1980, lol
[04:47] <deepsa> jonah1980, what you think you are
[04:47] <derrik> bjames: hmm. did you add a network user? sorry should asked that earlier
[04:47] <bjames> nope
[04:47] <bjames> derrik: no I don't think so
[04:48] <jonah1980> deepsa, huh?
[04:48] <jonah1980> lupine_85, thanks
[04:48] <deepsa> jonah1980, you were challenging
[04:48] <lupine_85> so what's my prize?
[04:48] <deepsa> lol
[04:48] <derrik> bjames: here try this link: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add.2Fedit.2Fdelete_network_users
[04:48] <bjames> derrik: cheers
[04:50] <jonah1980> deepsa, sorry you lost me, but thanks for being there
[04:51] <Li`lEndian> anyone answered that question? got disconnected, i think.
[04:53] <r_rehashed> good evening everybody
[04:53] <suyuki> hello
[04:53] <suyuki> need help installing cxacru!
[04:54] <Maheanuu> IaOrana r_rehashed
[04:54] <suyuki> I don't know if I have the right package anymore
[04:54] <Miknx> fuck ubuntu
[04:54] <r_rehashed> Miknx!
[04:54] <PriceChild> calm down Miknx
[04:55] <PriceChild> Miknx: Do you have a problem with ubuntu that someone could help you with?
[04:55] <bjames> derrik: at the rist of sounding retarded does "system_username" refer to my username on windows or the windows system and my username - i.e. MSHOME_bjames or just bjames
[04:55] <bjames> ?
[04:55] <Nookie^> Hi! im trying to install a plugin for banshee.,,, and trying to compile it but its asking for mono.. it's saying mono is not installed but i have installed it.-.. also mono-devel is installed... any ideas???
[04:55] <r_rehashed> newbies 1st need to have patience :P
[04:56] <PriceChild> Nookie^: what plugin?
[04:56] <suyuki> anyone know where I can get a proper cxacru package
[04:56] <Nookie^> PriceChild: Fleow
[04:56] <Aardwolf> when I want to upgrade my breezy, I get the following message: "Could not calculate the upgrade" "A unresolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade. Please report this as a bug. ". There's no indication of what this unresolvable problem is. How can I upgrade to dapper anyway?
[04:56] <r_rehashed> Maheanuu, what's IaOrana?
[04:56] <siv0x> hey could anyone help me with setting up ALSAs OSS Emulater?
[04:56] <KenThomson> lupine_85: are you around?
[04:56] <Maheanuu> Its hello in Tahitian
[04:56] <siv0x> Aardwolf: you cannot upgrade from breezy to edgy.
[04:57] <r_rehashed> oh, ty
[04:57] <derrik> bjames: haha its ok, i'm a little unfamilar here myself. like i said i haven't used samba in a while. i believe the system_username there refers to your windowsname_windowsusername
[04:57] <Maheanuu> aita peha peha
[04:57] <Aardwolf> siv0x, it's not to breezy, it's to dapper...
[04:57] <Aardwolf> *not to edgy
[04:57] <siv0x> Aardwolf: dont know then. sorry =\
[04:57] <r_rehashed> has anybody used compiz on ubuntu, here?
[04:57] <Aardwolf> :(
[04:57] <r_rehashed> with AIGLX?
[04:57] <suyuki> need help installing cxacru, anyone?
[04:58] <siv0x> Aardwolf: you could try downloading the dapper liveCD : D
[04:58] <Aardwolf> is there an edgy cd available?
[04:58] <siv0x> Aardwolf: thats the next easiest way to upgrade that i know of.
[04:58] <suyuki> yea there is
[04:58] <siv0x> Aardwolf: Yes.
[04:58] <Aardwolf> how much mb download is it?
[04:58] <suyuki> 600 something
[04:58] <siv0x> !edgy > Aardwolf
[04:59] <Miknx> woow
[05:00] <siv0x> Aardwolf: around 650 - 700
[05:00] <Aardwolf> ok
[05:01] <KenThomson> How do i mount a HDD in Ubuntu?
[05:01] <MarcN> KenThomson: they are probably already mounted on /media/
[05:02] <Aardwolf> how to make them be mounted with user write access rights?
[05:02] <KenThomson> MarcN: i want to manually mount hda3 in a folder ~/demo, how do i do that?
[05:02] <MarcN> KenThomson:  mount /dev/hda3 /home/ken/demo
[05:02] <bjames> derrik: it tells me I don't exist in the unix password database
[05:02] <MarcN> KenThomson:  sudo mount ...
[05:03] <bjames> running the commands on the wiki with my linux username works fine (just doesn't help), when using windows usernames it doesn't like them
[05:03] <sacater> siv0x: you are aware that many people have had problems upgrading from dapper to edgy
[05:03] <TooR4u> how to display like this * aish is known as aishaaa
[05:03] <derrik> bjames: ahh, here we go, this should help: http://www.amyon.net/v3/articles/operating-system/simple-samba-setup-on-ubuntu-6.10-edgy-eft-3.html
[05:03] <xor> how can i install ubuntu desktop on my existing RAID1 and RAID5 arrays ?
[05:03] <TooR4u> i mean message
[05:03] <KenThomson> MarcN: Thank you
[05:04] <ootput> where applicable: happy new years :D
[05:04] <siv0x> Sacater: i'm not upgrading, Aadwolf is. and yeah - but he shouldnt have problems if he downloads the LiveCD
[05:04] <ootput> how do i replace the ubuntu icon the the menu bar with something else?
[05:04] <ootput> even the foot
[05:04] <sacater> kenThomson: sudo mount -t <fs> /dev/hdd /mnt
[05:05] <siv0x> Sacater: My problem is, figuring out how to get ALSAs OSS Emulater set up so i can have sound on CS : (
[05:05] <bjames> derrik: sudo smbpasswd -a bjames      seems to work
[05:05] <KenThomson> sacater: thank you
[05:05] <bjames> derrik: NEWTON/bjames doesn't work
[05:05] <sacater> KenThomson: no problem m8
[05:06] <sacater> siv0x: are you using GNOME ALSA base
[05:06] <TooR4u> my old nick is xyzzz .... s o  i want to display all people in the chanel
[05:06] <TooR4u> how to mess ?
[05:06] <siv0x> Sacater: Not sure.. I'm using KDE for Desktop..
[05:07] <sacater> siv0x: shouldnt you be on the kubuntu channel then
[05:07] <ootput> is there a guide to setting up multiple sound cards in ubuntu?
[05:07] <ootput> one of the soundcards is using spdif out
[05:07] <siv0x> Sacater: didnt know there was a Kubuntu channel. lol
[05:07] <sacater> ootput: have you tried using GNOME ALSA base,
[05:07] <derrik> bjames: ok, i believe the next step is adding yourself to /etc/samba/smbusers if you're not already there
[05:07] <xor> how can i install Ubuntu or KUbuntu on my existing RAID1 and RAID5 arrays?
[05:07] <TooR4u> my old nick is xyzzz .... s o  i want to display all people in the chanel
[05:07] <TooR4u> how to mess ?
[05:08] <sacater> siv0x: type /j #kubuntu
[05:08] <bjames> derrik: ok what do I add there?
[05:08] <siv0x> sacater: i'm in there now.. lol
[05:09] <drivera90> What do I do with .rar?
[05:10] <Rookie_> tar zxvf
[05:10] <derrik> bjames: bjames = "network username"
[05:10] <drivera90> !rar
[05:10] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:11] <bjames> derrik: already tried that
[05:11] <drivera90> !info unrar-free
[05:11] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[05:12] <noodles12> i have a rar file with a pw. can i use john the ripper to get that?
[05:12] <derrik> bjames: have you tried restarting the samba process? sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[05:12] <bjames> derrik: trying it now...
[05:12] <Gacoment> hola
[05:13] <Gacoment> hello boys
[05:14] <KenThomson> !uninstall > grub
[05:15] <Phr34Ck> http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.2.1-200609210945/
[05:15] <Phr34Ck> if anyone can go there and tell me which version to download for Ubuntu.
[05:17] <Gacoment> i have this problem: http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/861/saveyourselfhk1.jpg. How can i kill it?
[05:17] <bjames> derrik: aha!
[05:17] <lupine_85> Gacoment: in a terminal, find it with ps x then kill it with kill -9 (piD)
[05:18] <bjames> derrik: top man - thanks for the help, it seems to work now
[05:18] <Gacoment> lupine_85, i know it, but didn't find in process.
[05:18] <lupine_85> then kill whatever owns it
[05:18] <Phr34Ck> http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.2.1-200609210945/
[05:18] <derrik> bjames: sweet! glad i could help
[05:18] <Phr34Ck> which one to download for Ubuntu ?
[05:19] <cesar_> I have a question
[05:19] <zelda> ping all
[05:19] <bjames> derrik: I'll have to write down what I did for when I properly set up a fileserver (at the moment I'm just running Ubuntu on VMware before buying hardware)
[05:19] <don_pedro> j #ubuntu.pl
[05:19] <rizo_> I just like to say UBUNTU and LINUX rule, recovered my very importants ntfs partition even when windows wouldn't...
[05:20] <ewook> nice
[05:20] <cesar_> why does Ubuntu sometimes hang up the Firefox window?
[05:20] <cesar_> it's very annoing this matter
[05:20] <derrik> bjames: it might have been correct all along, just had to restart the process after setting it up.
[05:20] <cesar_> when I am surfing the windows dessapears
[05:21] <rizo_> firefox feels very unstable on ubuntu i use seamonkey
[05:21] <Ferret> cesar_: Just out of random interest, is it on a site with flash animations of some kind, and do you have some kind of music player (especially mpd) running at the time?
[05:21] <cesar_> not at all
[05:21] <cesar_> just the firefox windows
[05:21] <zelda> firefox2 even on windows whats happening
[05:21] <derrik> bjames: should have thought of that first. oh well, it works now :)
[05:22] <rizo_> mine does anyway
[05:22] <cesar_> it is an ubuntu problem
[05:22] <Ferret> cesar_: No, really, it isn't.
[05:22] <cesar_> because I have proved several distros
[05:22] <cesar_> and all of the others work perfectly
[05:22] <Nintendud> rizo_: actually, when I used the version of Firefox from Firefox's website rather then from the Ubuntu repos, it worked just fine :)
[05:23] <Nintendud> than*
[05:23] <rizo_> I miss firefox 0.7 for me was the best version (firebird back then)
[05:23] <cesar_> I install ubuntu 6.10
[05:23] <Ferret> What does that prove?  Maybe ubuntu was the only one of those you tried which happened to have exactly version 2.1.4.5 of somelibrary-dev
[05:23] <Ferret> cesar_: Lots of people on windows and linux have crashing and memory leak problems with firefox
[05:23] <cesar_> the problem is not that only
[05:23] <Nintendud> Anyway, if anyone wants to help me, I posted my issue here since everyone ignored me in here earlier :( http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=328786
[05:23] <rizo_> seamonkey is actually pretty good
[05:24] <cesar_> the problem is that the same thing happens with Kcaffeine
[05:24] <cesar_> Kaffeine
[05:24] <rizo_> is there anyway of using gtk2 for form in firefox?
[05:24] <cesar_> as well as amarok
[05:24] <cesar_> in some cases
[05:25] <cesar_> the windows dissapear
[05:25] <Gacoment> lupine_85, i have kill gnome-session-r and the warning is rimoved, but at the next session how can i remove it?
[05:25] <cesar_> I would like to say beautiful things of UBUNTU, but I can't
[05:26] <cesar_> Ubuntu has given me a lot of trouble
[05:26] <cesar_> closing the windows suddendly
[05:26] <cesar_> I have a good computer
[05:26] <lupine_85> Gacoment: I'd imagine you read the message and act to fix whatever problem it's reporting. I can't read that language, though#
[05:26] <rizo_> when you say ubuntu do you meen all branches of ubuntu?
[05:26] <cesar_> I't a AMD ATHLON 64 3000+
[05:27] <eegore> has anyone here worked with ubuntu 64 edgy and dvd-rip
[05:27] <rizo_> you could try xubuntu, kubuntu
[05:27] <cesar_> and besides I have proved with an athlon 2000+ 32 bits
[05:27] <cesar_> the same thing happens the same
[05:27] <rizo_> xubuntu is quick i use it on a very old computer 700mhz
[05:28] <rizo_> works fine
[05:28] <Gacoment> lupine_85, that message tell that: SaveYourSelf not respond
[05:28] <rizo_> i use it as a file server
[05:28] <rizo_> i also have an athlon 2000+
[05:28] <MarcN> rizo_: one of my kid's pc is ~666mhz with 364M -- xubuntu is fine.
[05:29] <lupine_85> Gacoment: SaveYourSelf is a program?
[05:29] <rizo_> xubuntu is pretty nice
[05:29] <Phr34Ck> I need help installing please.
[05:29] <MarcN> rizo_: feels like 1990
[05:29] <sacater> im AMD sempron 2800+
[05:29] <Phr34Ck> I have downloaded gcc and I have extracted the files.
[05:30] <Phr34Ck> What should I do so I can install it?
[05:30] <rizo_> no it doesn't all apass work
[05:30] <slight> Can any one tell me why there hasn't been a security for Firefox 2 in Edgy to 2.0.0.1 yet?
[05:30] <Phr34Ck> !install
[05:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:30] <rizo_> just get it from firefox site
[05:30] <Phr34Ck> how do I install on Ubuntu ?
[05:30] <slight> that kind of breaks the whole idea of repository based software
[05:31] <MarcN> Phr34Ck: sudo apt-get install build-essentials        should get all you need to start writing/compiling C/C++ programs.  Don't manually install gcc
[05:31] <Phr34Ck> I want to install gcc 4.1.1
[05:31] <Gacoment> yes lupine_85 , but i don't know it
[05:31] <lupine_85> slight: security fixes will get in. might take a short while though
[05:31] <cesar_> it is an Ubuntu problem, is not it?
[05:31] <rizo_> phr34ck: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[05:31] <lupine_85> Gacoment: well, you need to find out what's starting it up at login and remove that action
[05:31] <zelda> phr3ack: use apt get
[05:31] <Phr34Ck> rizo_, there is no .deb file.
[05:31] <zelda> download
[05:31] <rizo_> what file is it
[05:31] <rizo_> tar.gz?
[05:31] <KenThomson> lupine_85: If i installed GRUB on Windows HDD, and removed Ubuntu's HDD, and still get GRUB menu, how do i remove that GRUB and shift bootup process to lilo, becuase the GRUB MENU SIMPLY HALTS
[05:31] <Phr34Ck> It was .tar.gz
[05:32] <MarcN> Phr34Ck: sudo apt-get install gcc-4.1      gets you an older compiler
[05:32] <lupine_85> KenThomson: you'd install lilo on the MBT
[05:32] <lupine_85> MBR*
[05:32] <zelda> why bother and use debian distros if not gonna use apt and dpkg
[05:32] <zelda> right
[05:32] <Phr34Ck> MarcN, I don't have Internet on my Ubuntu box.
[05:32] <MarcN> KenThomson: grub lives in the mbr
[05:32] <rizo_> you need to extract it
[05:32] <zelda> reah the README file
[05:32] <MarcN> Phr34Ck: me boggles
[05:32] <rizo_> then go into folder
[05:32] <zelda> phr3ack: cool then download the package and compile
[05:33] <rizo_> open ./configure
[05:33] <KenThomson> lupine_85: MarcN: How do i take everything back to as if there was no GRUB on MBR?
[05:33] <Phr34Ck> I did this: ./configure
[05:33] <rizo_> sorry
[05:33] <Phr34Ck> it told me that no cc found in $PATH
[05:33] <rizo_> start terminal
[05:33] <slight> lupine_85, nearly 2 weeks (from upstream release) for such a major app with 5 critical vulns seems like rather a long time is all. I'm only asking *why*. I'm not complaining.
[05:33] <LameBMX> KenThomson, do you have other linux installs .. if not you can just throw the windows cd in ... select advanced recovery ... type fixmbr
[05:33] <lupine_85> KenThomson: by installing lilo
[05:33] <Gacoment> lupine_85, i know this but, How can i find it?
[05:33] <lupine_85> slight: file a bug?
[05:33] <KenThomson> LameBMX: will that surely work?
[05:34] <slight> lupine_85, never mind, it was just a simple question. no would suffice ;) thanks anyway
[05:34] <LameBMX> not with os's other than windows
[05:34] <KDan> hmm. beryl rocks.
[05:34] <lupine_85> Gacoment: you could grep for it, check the sessions option, simply uninstall the program...
[05:34] <KDan> (running on ubuntu of course)
[05:34] <rizo_> try installing gcc dev files from synaptic
[05:34] <zelda> KDan: what ur memory like
[05:34] <LameBMX> slight, whats soo bad about that .. ms gets away with it in a "secure"os
[05:34] <MarcN> KenThomson: under windows something like   format /mbr  (largely undocumented), under Linux you can dd some zeros into it and then instal whatever you want.
[05:34] <KDan> 29.1% usage
[05:34] <KDan> out of 1 gig
[05:34] <slight> LameBMX, I think we can agree that MS isn't a great yardstick for security policy...
[05:34] <LameBMX> thats if they even tell you about vuln .. which they never do until they have a patch for it ...
[05:34] <lupine_85> slight: seriously, file a bug. it's possible the security people missed the notify
[05:35] <lupine_85> which would be silly of them, of course, but it *is* possible
[05:35] <Gacoment> lupine_85, i find it: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/1999-April/msg00336.html
[05:35] <zelda> KDan: now i know why u use beryl
[05:35] <Phr34Ck> so what I did is that I downloaded the source?
[05:35] <Phr34Ck> rather then the program ?
[05:35] <KenThomson> MarcN: I am in UbuntuLIVECD, how do i throw GRUB out of MBR and put back in lilo?
[05:35] <LameBMX> can we say gif/jpg exploite that was around for more than a year before ms acknowledged it
[05:35] <rizo_> yeh
[05:35] <slight> LameBMX, the day we start comparing linux to Windows and saying "well its no worse than Windows" is the day I walk away from OSS :)
[05:35] <rizo_> then
[05:35] <zelda> KDan: save ur memory for something usefull
[05:35] <MarcN> KenThomson: try    sudo apt-get install lilo        Why lilo?
[05:35] <slight> LameBMX, unless this is all just a pissing match with MS?
[05:36] <slight> lupine_85, will have a look, but it seems unlikely, as 2.0.0.1 is in the Feisty repos, just not the Edgy ones
[05:36] <LameBMX> slight, i do agree with the concept that as nix moves more into desktop we will so more vulns discovered in it
[05:36] <KenThomson> MarcN: Than tell me how do i configure GRUB on a windows HDD, so that it has windows entry, form Ubuntu liveCD?
[05:36] <rizo_> when i have booting problems the first thing i do is use my UBCD
[05:36] <KDan> zelda: eye-candy is useful
[05:36] <LameBMX> yea basically ... sorry i was all likin vista till i got off my lazy bum and got ubuntu + beryl up
[05:36] <slight> LameBMX, these bugs are already fixed. ubuntu just needs to apply the patches...
[05:36] <lupine_85> firefox is just as buggy as IE, vuln-wise. It's just less crash-prone
[05:36] <cesar_> does anyone have Feisty or UBUNTU 7 installed on your computer?
[05:37] <zelda> Kden: whats i candy
[05:37] <lupine_85> cesar_: yes
[05:37] <zelda> eye candy
[05:37] <cesar_> Lupine, how does it work?
[05:37] <MarcN> KenThomson: if you install ubuntu, it will detect and create a grub entry so you can choose at boot time which os to install.
[05:37] <rizo_> theres is an app on it call gujin
[05:37] <lupine_85> cesar_: terribly
[05:37] <rizo_> check it out here I just like to say UBUNTU and LINUX rule, recovered my very importants ntfs partition even when windows wouldn't...
[05:37] <lupine_85> which is to be expected
[05:37] <rizo_> sorry
[05:37] <cesar_> why???
[05:37] <KenThomson> MarcN: without installing Ubuntu?
[05:37] <rizo_> wrong paste
[05:37] <lupine_85> because it's not released yet
[05:37] <rizo_> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[05:37] <cesar_> what happens
[05:37] <KDan> zelda: eye candy is stuff that looks nice (e.g. beryl)
[05:37] <MarcN> KenThomson:  Why do you want to do that?
[05:37] <lupine_85> desktop priorities are all messed up
[05:38] <lupine_85> e.g. a background compile kills sound
[05:38] <zelda> will u know how my desktop looks like
[05:38] <lupine_85> lots of other stuff too
[05:38] <LameBMX> like anything else .. its not about the bug or the issue ... its in how its dealt with .. if it takes 5 patches in 2 weeks .. or even just telling people about when there is no known patch ...
[05:38] <cesar_> so, it does not worth it the download yet?
[05:38] <LameBMX> but anyways back to cleanin
[05:38] <lupine_85> not to mention the intermittant non-bootability, lack of X, etc
[05:38] <lupine_85> so yeah, best to stick to edgy for now
[05:38] <zelda> kden : how does my desktop look like
[05:38] <zelda> kden : what u think
[05:39] <cesar_> who of you knows mepis?
[05:39] <cesar_> Who is working with mepis
[05:39] <cesar_> ?
[05:39] <zelda> cesar: i heared of it
[05:39] <irek> Iam
[05:39] <QwertyM> cesar_, I heard and used 3.0 live too
[05:39] <cesar_> I strongly recommend you
[05:39] <zelda> cesar: whats about it
[05:39] <QwertyM> Ubuntu > * :p
[05:39] <cesar_> its a distribution
[05:39] <floating> how do I watch a .bin video file ?
[05:39] <QwertyM> lol
[05:40] <cesar_> simmilar to UBUNTU
[05:40] <QwertyM> floating, get VLC Player
[05:40] <cesar_> but better I would say
[05:40] <zelda> not bad
[05:40] <KDan> zelda: i have no clue and don't care much
[05:40] <lupine_85> floating: is it a video file or a video CD/DVD image?
[05:40] <slytherin> !pastebin
[05:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:40] <QwertyM> !vlc | floating
[05:40] <ubotu> floating: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:40] <cesar_> i'ts based on debian and ubuntu
[05:40] <floating> QwertyM: I got a vlc
[05:40] <KDan> zelda: my desktop looks great and has wobbly windows. that's what I care about
[05:40] <lupine_85> if the former, mplayer will do the trick. if the latter, well. who knows.
[05:40] <MarcN> floating: see if gxine or vlc can read it.  Try this from the command line:       file whatever.bin       to see what it is
[05:40] <zelda> Kden : will me lad its black and white
[05:40] <QwertyM> floating, doesnt open in it?
[05:40] <zelda> terminial
[05:40] <KDan> zelda: good for you!
[05:40] <floating> not open
[05:40] <zelda> what u think
[05:41] <r_rehashed> floating: vlc
[05:41] <cesar_> the next version is out on January 10th 2007
[05:41] <floating> with vlc, but how about some mounting ? needed ?
[05:41] <zelda> KDEn: my desk is white
[05:41] <cesar_> It is worth it the try
[05:41] <zelda> KDEn: my screen is black
[05:41] <cesar_> www.mepis.org
[05:41] <zelda> KDEn: i feel blue
[05:41] <r_rehashed> why can't mepis be merged with ubuntu, if it is better instead of having many forks
[05:41] <cesar_> or look at this page: www.distrowatch.com
[05:42] <cesar_> the best thing I like of MEPIS is the KDE
[05:42] <cesar_> it does not work with GNOME
[05:42] <KenThomson> Is there someway i can leave a message for someone with a particular nickname on freenode?
[05:43] <cesar_> If you like Gnome entorn just download from Synaptic
[05:43] <r_rehashed> cesar_: isn't that a disadvantage?
[05:43] <cesar_> not at all
[05:43] <cesar_> I prefer using KDE
[05:43] <cesar_> it provides with full packages
[05:43] <floating> is there a way to check if a file is broken or something ? file file.bin it gives :data
[05:43] <cesar_> many packages works with kde
[05:44] <un_operateur> r_rehashed, isn't that like asking -- why can't we merge RedHat, Suse and Mandrake instead of having many forks?
[05:44] <cesar_> To download mepis then
[05:44] <cesar_> the desk is beautiful
[05:44] <MarcN> floating: file is pretty good at guessing media file types.  Apparently file.bin isn't known or not what you think it is.
[05:44] <saraeluca2000> ciao
[05:45] <cesar_> I wish it was January 10th to download  MEPIS
[05:45] <cesar_> the new version must be terrific
[05:45] <cesar_> just great
[05:45] <r_rehashed> un_operateur, that is at a very general level. but if mepis is built on Debian AND ubuntu, then doesn't it make it another distro with very small differences?
[05:45] <arte_> hi any linx for cedega deb pakage ?
[05:45] <cesar_> For those people who have poor Net connection
[05:46] <cesar_> I have something for them
[05:46] <cesar_> as a gift
[05:46] <KenThomson> MarcN: i need to leave a message on freenode so that other time someone with a particular nick connects the message is displayed is there a way to do it?
[05:46] <floating> MarcN: I typed file thefilename.bin and it outputted only->  :data
[05:46] <HymnToLife> KenSentMe, /msg memoserv help
[05:46] <un_operateur> r_rehashed, it's the difference in ideology that spawns new distros -- the same way ubuntu itself is a child of debian .. why have ubuntu at all when there's debian?
[05:46] <KenThomson> HymnToLife: plesae explian
[05:46] <MarcN> floating: then gxine/vlc/mplayer probably won't know how to display it.
[05:46] <cesar_> I can compress the iso file of MEPIS just for you
[05:47] <HymnToLife> that command will explain it all, in short /msg memoserv send nick message
[05:47] <cesar_> the download will take short time
[05:47] <arte_> is cedega the same as wine ?
[05:47] <MarcN> floating: try file on *.wmv or *.mp*g or *.avi
[05:47] <cesar_> use rar
[05:47] <cesar_> to decompress
[05:47] <HymnToLife> will send a memo to nick and nex time he/she logs in, there wil be a message "you have new memos"
[05:47] <cesar_> just email me
[05:47] <HymnToLife> Didn't you notice the "You have no new memos" when you login ?
[05:47] <gRaCiOsO> how can i mount my cdrom device in ubuntu?
[05:48] <KenThomson> HymnToLife: Thank you help is much appreciated
[05:48] <r_rehashed> hmm.. true. it is valid as long as the ubuntu and mepis design ideologies really don't get together
[05:48] <drivera90> Is there a way to play GBA roms in Ubuntu?
[05:48] <floating> aha =(
[05:48] <cesar_> the file is 700 MB
[05:48] <MarcN> gRaCiOsO: put a cd in it and it should automount.
[05:48] <KenThomson> Happy NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!, and happy UBUNT-ing in 2007 :) :) :)
[05:48] <arte_> gRa mount /media/cdrom0
[05:48] <MarcN> KenThomson: you in the uk?
[05:48] <cesar_> MEPIS is worth the try
[05:48] <r_rehashed> KenThomson: same 2 u
[05:48] <Latty> I'm getting an error: 'The Configuration Could Not Be Loaded. You are not allowed to access the system configuration' - any time there should be a gksudo.
[05:48] <Gacoment> -.-
[05:48] <gRaCiOsO> arte_,  i tryied but it doesnt work
[05:49] <KenThomson> MarcN: NO, undisclosed location <hint: area-51> :)
[05:49] <cesar_> the new version is released on January 10
[05:49] <MarcN> KenThomson: I have 12 hours to go ;-)
[05:49] <gRaCiOsO> MarcN,  it doesnt work
[05:49] <cesar_> it comes with many new software+
[05:49] <LameBMX> Latty ... you just put an issue ive had into wordds .. thanx ..
[05:49] <NickVolcano> thank you! I must go now
[05:49] <r_rehashed> the only thing is that, it is not easy to keep testing distros
[05:49] <cesar_> and the new kernel
[05:49] <arte_> just dcrom ?
[05:49] <Latty> Can anyone help.
[05:50] <Latty> LameBMX: Heh, thank the guy who responds :P
[05:50] <cesar_> you can test this distro eassily
[05:50] <cesar_> because is a live cd also
[05:50] <arte_> gRa wot on cdrom ?
[05:50] <MarcN> gRaCiOsO: what happens?    from the command line,     mount /dev/cdrom /media/whatever
[05:50] <r_rehashed> oh good.
[05:50] <LameBMX> well a simple search for gksudo didnt help lol
[05:50] <cesar_> you can try without installing anything
[05:51] <dusty> Hi, i am building apache with mod_perl from source and am getting this error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl
[05:51] <cesar_> if you do like then install it with the /INSTALL ICON/
[05:51] <dusty> I found a solution last night, but can't seem to google it back up again.
[05:51] <MarcN> dusty: sounds like you are missing libperl
[05:52] <MarcN> dusty: libperl-dev specifically
[05:52] <dusty> ahh cool. Thanks.
[05:52] <arte_> my cdrom sometimes mount cd  part and i can open it properly wots goin on ?
[05:52] <gRaCiOsO> MarcN,  it says u should especifi the kind of file system
[05:52] <MarcN> gRaCiOsO:   sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/whatever
[05:52] <imbecile> do you guys recommend tls or ssl?
[05:53] <arte_> what is cedega is it the same emulaor as wine
[05:53] <arte_> where can i download it ?
[05:54] <gRaCiOsO> MarcN,  the /dev/cdrom device doesnt exist
[05:54] <gRaCiOsO> it says
[05:54] <dusty> I wrote it down this time. :P
[05:54] <hsram> ok appearantly wine doesnt work for me....any ideas why?
[05:55] <theflyingfool> does edgy have a built in partion editor, preferably with a gui
[05:55] <arte_> gRaCiOsO is it possible cdrom is broken or scratched
[05:55] <imbecile> do you guys recommend tls or ssl?
[05:55] <r_rehashed> i wish the Ubuntu cd could come with packages like fedora
[05:55] <arte_> hsram try cmd wine notebook.exe
[05:55] <LameBMX> no luck on gksudo .. sorry
[05:55] <gRaCiOsO> arte_,  i installed ubuntu with that few weeks ago
[05:55] <hsram> do what?
[05:55] <Ferret> hiiguyz.  I have a weird issue with starting up -- it stops for three minutes apparently doing nothing some time between the message about setting kernel event manager (udev, I assume) and "Loading hardware drivers"
[05:56] <hsram> so type that in, in my terminal?
[05:56] <arte_> gRa restart sysytem
[05:56] <arte_> hsram yes type it
[05:56] <hsram> didnt do anything
[05:56] <Ferret> At first it lasted 6 minutes, and I suspected it was some kind of net issue, so I reconfigured dhclient to not have any timeouts, and then it seemed to cut the wait time in half: 3 minutes instead of 6.  But I'm not wholly sure
[05:56] <arte_> is it properly installed
[05:56] <hsram> well this is what happened...i tried using installing WINE when i very first installed the OS
[05:57] <hsram> it gave an error (i believe couldnt connect to server)
[05:57] <hsram> like the server didnt exist
[05:57] <hsram> Synaptic Manager or something
[05:57] <hsram> is what i used.
[05:57] <arte_> install automtix
[05:57] <cesar_> With Mepis you can obtatin more than 10.000 packages downloades from its repositories
[05:57] <gRaCiOsO> brb
[05:57] <Ferret> (oh, and using the magicsysrq Trace mechanism, udevd is the active process at the bottom, and typically also running are shpchpd (PCI controller kernel process) and kpsmoused (same for PS/2 mouse)
[05:57] <hsram> i installed the latest nvidia drivers and i dont get Synaptic Manager anymore
[05:57] <hsram> automtix?
[05:57] <r_rehashed> wine doesn't have repositories for amd64/em64t?
[05:57] <arte_> hsram yes automatix :)
[05:58] <CarlFK> Ferret: sounds like you still have a net problem - I would try setting a static IP to test
[05:58] <hsram> automatix now? lol
[05:58] <hsram> hmm im at the website, lemme see
[05:58] <hsram> if im using ubuntu desktop 6.10, thats edgy right?
[05:59] <arte_> yes
[05:59] <hsram> kk
[05:59] <imbecile> hsram, yes
[05:59] <arte_> www.getautomatix.com
[05:59] <aztracker1> hsram, automatix may have borked your /etc/apt/apt.conf or sources.list
[05:59] <imbecile> anybody have tls enabled?
[05:59] <arte_> hsram reinstall wine
[06:00] <aztracker1> hsram, try running   sudo apt-get update   from the cli
[06:00] <arte_> still have no problem with automatix
[06:00] <frafra> hi all
[06:00] <aztracker1> hsram, see what errors you get..
[06:00] <arte_> anytime u can edit ur list ..
[06:00] <hsram> no see what im saying.
[06:00] <r_rehashed> the wine-rep. url given in the Community contributed docs doesn't work
[06:00] <Ferret> CarlFK: I had a go at that but couldn't quite work out how to do it.  I have a feeling udev is trying to be far too clever, and I'm more used to configuring net on other distros.  Does udev do automatic net stuff on ubuntu like it does on other distros, do you know?
[06:01] <frafra> I've a problem on festy
[06:01] <hsram> at the wine website, it did all the installation using Synaptic Window Manager, or something like that
[06:01] <hsram> so i left it alone after it didnt work
[06:01] <CarlFK> Ferret: du no.
[06:01] <hsram> i installed the latest nvidia drivers, and i dont even have Synaptic Window Manager
[06:01] <frafra> I've installed nvidia drivers, but when I try to enable the desktop effects, I can't see the borders
[06:01] <aztracker1> hsram, if synaptic doesn't come up, odds are that apt-get update will show errors.
[06:02] <Ferret> CarlFK: No-one else in the world seems to know either. :D  There's absolutely no way I'm going to go poking stuff in /lib/udev/, it's all too complicated and magical.
[06:02] <hsram> well it was there before i installed nvidia drivers
[06:02] <hsram> afterwards, it wasnt
[06:02] <aztracker1> hsram, how'd you get ubuntu installed without synaptic.
[06:02] <hsram> it was there...
[06:02] <Ferret> CarlFK: You gave me an idea though, I'm going to try blacklisting the drivers for the network cards in this machine.
[06:02] <arte_> magic ubuntu
[06:02] <devon> i had the no borders broblem with compiz too
[06:02] <Ferret> no drivers == no network interfaces == no cleverness :)
[06:02] <LameBMX> aztracker1, i didnt have to install synaptic to install ubuntu
[06:02] <LameBMX> :P
[06:03] <devon> i fixed it by disabling composition
[06:03] <LameBMX> but i did have other things borken
[06:03] <LameBMX> :/
[06:03] <aztracker1> hsram, try opening a terminal and   sudo apt-get upgrade ... then sudo apt-get install synaptic
[06:03] <CarlFK> Ferret: im in the "no clue" world :)
[06:03] <arte_> terminal synaptic lol
[06:03] <devon> my compiz still doesnt work tho, given up and put it down to ancient radeon graphics card
[06:03] <MrVincent> Hey people, I was wondering if there's a way to use Ventrilo on Ubuntu. Their Linux version is not released yet...
[06:04] <CarlFK> Ferret: glad I could 'help' :)
[06:04] <Ferret> CarlFK: Thanks for responding anyway, no-one else has done that. n.n
[06:04] <devon> im gonna try and register with sum kinda name
[06:04] <devon> byee
[06:05] <arte_> restart first then try again to run synaptic immpossible  u havent it
[06:05] <CarlFK> how do I pass --log foo.loog to /etc/init.d/mysql ?
[06:05] <hsram> kk
[06:05] <hsram> well
[06:05] <koyo001> hello
[06:05] <hsram> i gotta go to work
[06:05] <hsram> so ill try that later
[06:05] <hsram> you going to be on later tonight?
[06:05] <koyo001> i am new to ubuntu
[06:05] <koyo001> if someone could help me
[06:05] <LameBMX> hiya koyo001
[06:05] <koyo001> i would be gratefull
[06:06] <koyo001> i just got myself a dell
[06:06] <LameBMX> !ask | koyo001
[06:06] <ubotu> koyo001: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:06] <koyo001> inspiron 6400
[06:06] <CarlFK> koyo001: best to just ask
[06:06] <koyo001> thanks guys
[06:06] <aztracker1> MrVincent, have you tried the latest wine?
[06:06] <LameBMX> wine that sounds good for this evening
[06:06] <koyo001> ok question is this
[06:07] <koyo001> i got a dell inspiron 6400
[06:07] <koyo001> and cant get the wirless
[06:07] <koyo001> to work
[06:07] <LameBMX> !wireless
[06:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:07] <LameBMX> have fun
[06:07] <LameBMX> read up and try ..
[06:07] <LameBMX> :)
[06:07] <LameBMX> ty ubotu
[06:07] <koyo001> been reading for a while
[06:08] <AngryElf> how do I find out what version of the nvidia driver i'm currently using?
[06:08] <devon>  /msg nickserv link <DivineNephron> <t0lu1ne>
[06:08] <koyo001> not really helping
[06:08] <devon> dang
[06:08] <LameBMX> well what kind of wireless device is it
[06:08] <fenrig> !nfts
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nfts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <koyo001> but gonna go and read some more thanks
[06:08] <fenrig> can somebody help me
[06:08] <fenrig> or wait
[06:08] <fenrig> no
[06:08] <ddd_>  #gnustep
[06:08] <fenrig> fixed
[06:09] <nephron> ooh
[06:09] <nephron> it works
[06:10] <CarlFK> !fs-driver
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fs-driver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <fenrig> how can i enable nfts
[06:11] <CarlFK> fenrig: you might want  www.fs-driver.org It provides Windows NT4.0/2000/XP with full access to Linux Ext2 volumes (read access and write access).
[06:11] <fenrig> reading and writing
[06:11] <Music_Shuffle> !ntfs
[06:11] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:11] <Music_Shuffle> !fuse
[06:11] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:11] <Music_Shuffle> @fenrig.
[06:11] <fenrig> thx
[06:12] <pvz> i have a samsung digimax L50,how can I make it "work" on ubuntu?it doesn't show up as a usbdisk,and digiKam won't recognize it.
[06:12] <vvlaw> hello
[06:12] <vvlaw> how to use the shutdown command?
[06:13] <binarydigit> man shutdown
[06:13] <vvlaw> i want let pc to shutdown after 2 hours later by itself
[06:13] <Music_Shuffle> lol!
[06:13] <ewook> man shutdown
[06:13] <vvlaw> so , i type:shutdown -h 120
[06:13] <ewook> yeah
[06:14] <ewook> something like that
[06:14] <vvlaw> in terminal ?
[06:14] <ewook> ya
[06:15] <binarydigit> with keyboard
[06:15] <HymnToLife> -hP if you want to power off
[06:15] <HymnToLife> -h will only halt
[06:15] <fenrig> strange
[06:15] <fenrig> i know i installed vista
[06:15] <vvlaw> -hP can be work?
[06:15] <fenrig> on a nfts parition cause it didnt wanted to instal on a fat paration
[06:15] <HymnToLife> and it has to be +120 for relative time
[06:15] <Music_Shuffle> HymnToLife, -H only halts.
[06:16] <Music_Shuffle> -h lets the system choose.
[06:16] <fenrig> and ubuntu says its fat
[06:16] <fenrig> strange
[06:16] <Music_Shuffle> Although I guess Murphy's Law says that it would always choose halt ;P
[06:16] <vvlaw> yeah,i really want to power off after halt
[06:16] <HymnToLife> vvlaw, sudo shutdown -HP +120
[06:17] <HymnToLife> h, sorry, hot H
[06:17] <pag3r> why does Linux (as whole) have a very limited support to NTFS? espically writing to this type of filesystem
[06:17] <HymnToLife> not*
[06:17] <HymnToLife> pag3r, bnecause M$ won't release the specs of their filesystem
[06:17] <vvlaw> HymnToLife , it need to add "+"?
[06:17] <kjalil> evening everyone :-)
[06:17] <binarydigit> pag3r: its not documented, everything has to be reverse engineered
[06:17] <HymnToLife> yes
[06:18] <HymnToLife> maybe it would work without, dunno
[06:18] <HymnToLife> I always add it, so it's clear that the time is relative
[06:18] <Music_Shuffle> You could always just try both ways with like...1 minute and see what happens.
[06:19] <pvz> i have a samsung digimax L50,how can I make it "work" on ubuntu?it doesn't show up as a usbdisk,and digiKam won't recognize it.
[06:19] <vvlaw> thanks HymnToLife.i try it
[06:19] <aztracker1> pvz, is the data card removable, what about a straight usb reader for the card, outside the camera?
[06:20] <pvz> aztracker1: maybe.it's a SD card.
[06:20] <aztracker1> pvz, I mean if you have a regular usb card reader, try that with ubuntu... instead of relying on the camera device being supported..
[06:21] <pvz> aztracker1: oh,i don't have a usb card reader,but that's an idea.
[06:21] <pag3r> pvs, best solution is to buy an external card reader. it'll be recognized instantly. besides it's cheaper.
[06:22] <TehBigToe> guys, what's a good firewall available via synaptic?
[06:22] <HymnToLife> !firewall | TehBigToe
[06:22] <ubotu> TehBigToe: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:23] <HymnToLife> TehBigToe, in short, unless you have very specific need, you don't need to worry about firewalling
[06:23] <TehBigToe> ah, ok
[06:23] <pvz> pag3r: ya,that must be better.
[06:23] <alexbligh1> I have upgraded from Dapper to Edgy, but somehow in the upgrade process I've lost my 686smp kernel and now have a 386 kernel instead (so no dual processors). I know Edgy kernel handling is different. How best fix it?
[06:24] <HymnToLife> !generic | alexbligh1
[06:24] <ubotu> alexbligh1: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[06:24] <HymnToLife> in short, there is no more arch-specific kernel in Edgy
[06:24] <HymnToLife> just install the "generic" one
[06:25] <pag3r> pvs, but check that reader can read your type of memory. digital camers come with a different memory types like CF, SD,MMC.. etc
[06:25] <alexbligh1> HymnToLife, I have the generic one installed, but it boots as uniprocessor 386.
[06:25] <KenSentMe> Is it possible to make a script that runs banshee or rhythmbox with a non-default soundcard? I have two soundcards and don't want to manually switch every time i want to play music through my second card.
[06:25] <aztracker1> kind of wish in upgrading from dapper to edgy it gave the option to use 386 or generic kernel options..
[06:26] <alexbligh1> Linux araucaria 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Tue Dec 5 22:26:18 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:26] <HymnToLife> alenax, just before, you said you had the 386 one
[06:26] <theflyingfool> will an external hdd formated in ntfs have write permission?
[06:26] <HymnToLife> 386 != generic
[06:27] <ugarit> anyone here using http://kvm.sf.net  Is there an ubuntu package?
[06:27] <Phr34Ck> Hey, I'm having this problem with APT-GET ... Err htt://...... Temporary failure resolving so.archive.ubuntucom <--- to all.
[06:27] <aztracker1> !ntfs | theflyingfool
[06:27] <ubotu> theflyingfool: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:27] <alexbligh1> HymnToLife, the package I have installed is "generic", the resultant kernel is 386 non-SMP
[06:27] <HymnToLife> Phr34Ck, archive.ubunt.com would work better /me thinks :)
[06:27] <CheshireViking> pvz: your question prompted me to try plugging my digital camera into this Ubuntu machine, as soon as I plugged it in, it started up an Import photo's app even though I've not configured anything - that was with a Kodak Easyshare dx4330 camera - Thats more than windows did in autodetection :)
[06:27] <HymnToLife> ubuntu*
[06:27] <MarcN> Phr34Ck: typo?   ubuntucom
[06:27] <lumaQQ> Anyone here offer any help ~? I want to make the windows a little see thru (something similar to VISTA)  if anyone knows any software that i can use please let me know !!  thanks!
[06:27] <Phr34Ck> HymnToLife, I'm have that problem with all the times in the list.
[06:28] <Phr34Ck> I don't know why.
[06:28] <HymnToLife> alexbligh1, you neet do use the generic kernel, period !
[06:28] <pvz> CheshireViking: yes,but some cameras have a terrible usb support - those that come with a driver CD.
[06:28] <aztracker1> !compiz | lumaQQ
[06:28] <ubotu> lumaQQ: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:28] <Phr34Ck> all the links*
[06:28] <gRaCiOsO> i have a problem with qemu when i start to install win and y put the command emu -hdc win98.img -cdrom /media/cdrom0 -m 32 -boot d it open a windows and it says CDROM boot failure code : 0002 , Boot from CD-ROM failed , Fatal: could not read the boot disk anyone know why?
[06:28] <sheilakay> hi all, I'm a newbie and trying to install ubuntu on a gigabit tiBook and need some help. I've done some searches on the ubuntu forums and the threads on this are kind of sparse
[06:28] <gRaCiOsO> y = i
[06:28] <sheilakay> does anyone here have experience with ubuntu on a tiBook?
[06:28] <HymnToLife> Phr34Ck, so.archive.ubuntucom <= that's the problem
[06:29] <Music_Shuffle> !anyone
[06:29] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:29] <pvz> CheshireViking: and the people that gave me this camera didn't know i used linux.
[06:29] <Phr34Ck> HymnToLife, it's only a typo that I made. It's correct in the file.
[06:29] <aztracker1> sheilakay, would help, if I knew more on installing on a mac... you use the Command+C to boot from cdrom iirc, that's all I know..
[06:30] <flodine> part
[06:30] <alexbligh1> HymnToLife, OK I have linux-image-generic installed, as well as linux-386 and linux-686-smp. Should I remove the linux-386 package?
[06:30] <sheilakay> aztracker1: you can actually just hold down the c key durin ga powerup, you don't need to do command+c
[06:30] <dfcarney> I have multiple sound cards on my system and, by default, Ubuntu (edgy) has configured itself to use one by default, but I want to use the other.  How do I switch?
[06:30] <gRaCiOsO> i have a problem with qemu when i start to install win and y put the command emu -hdc win98.img -cdrom /media/cdrom0 -m 32 -boot d it open a windows and it says CDROM boot failure code : 0002 , Boot from CD-ROM failed , Fatal: could not read the boot disk anyone know why?
[06:30] <HymnToLife> alexbligh1, when you boot, you should have the generic kernel appear in GRUB
[06:30] <alexbligh1> (note this is just what Dapper plus Edgy put on there)
[06:30] <alexbligh1> Nope. Just 386.
[06:30] <HymnToLife> boot it and you wil be fine (rmeoving the others can't hurt though)
[06:31] <aztracker1> sheilakay, gotcha, new it was something like that... my old g4 is for testing stuff with safari, that's about all I use mine for... have a buddy that's a mac-head, but he doesn't do irc.
[06:31] <HymnToLife> alexbligh1, then sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[06:31] <sheilakay> my problem is with the display when booting from the install CD. it's screwed up and I am not sure how to describe how -- with the first ubuntu iso I tried the display showed a few horizontol lines across the screen after going through the first part of the boot part
[06:31] <gRaCiOsO> someone have used qemu ?
[06:31] <CheshireViking> pvz: the only suggestion i'd have would be whats allready being suggested using a card reader - I have to do that to update the memeory card on my pocketpc
[06:31] <Music_Shuffle> !someone
[06:31] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:31] <sheilakay> first thing I tried was ubuntu-6.10-desktop-powerpc.iso
[06:31] <anorexicpillow> Okay! I have a question... I dual boot Ubuntu and XP, Ubuntu being my main os. how do i get to safemode in windows?
[06:31] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[06:31] <sacater> does anyone know prcisely how grub works, because i boot off my 1st drive, but i use my second drive, grub is on my first drive, and i want to wipe my first drive
[06:32] <aztracker1> gRaCiOsO, I use vmware myself, sorry.
[06:32] <pox> someone use dvb-t magnex?
[06:32] <alexbligh1> OK thanks, let me go and play...
[06:32] <gRaCiOsO> i have a problem with qemu when i start to install win and y put the command qemu -hdc win98.img -cdrom /media/cdrom0 -m 32 -boot d it open a windows and it says CDROM boot failure code : 0002 , Boot from CD-ROM failed , Fatal: could not read the boot disk anyone know why?
[06:32] <HymnToLife> gRaCiOsO, maybe your CD is simply not bootable
[06:32] <what_if> anyone have Gmail and can send me an invite ??
[06:33] <gRaCiOsO> HymnToLife,  i tested it is bootable men
[06:33] <HymnToLife> !offtopic | what_if
[06:33] <ubotu> what_if: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:33] <aztracker1> what_if, /msg me your email, will send you one.
[06:33] <sheilakay> ubuntu-6.10-alternate-powerpc.iso did a little better... but screwed up the display by not using the entire screen
[06:33] <sacater> what_if: i can
[06:33] <pox> ./list
[06:33] <HymnToLife> gRaCiOsO, how did you dump your ISO ?
[06:33] <jbroome> i didn't think you needed invites anymore
[06:33] <vvlaw_> HymnToLife , the command worked.
[06:33] <sacater> what_if: i have gmail and can invite you
[06:34] <sedra> hello all
[06:34] <pag3r> i consider buying a new writer, does ubuntu support LightScribe technology?
[06:34] <what_if> sacater: tnx,  but already gave to 2 others :)
[06:34] <vvlaw_> but i was always ring each minutes passed
[06:34] <gRaCiOsO> HymnToLife,  i have installed win with that cd in other pcs
[06:34] <sedra> what's the path of codecs in ubuntu 6.10
[06:34] <nolimitsoya> !codecs | sedra
[06:34] <ubotu> sedra: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:35] <sedra> i didnt find /usr/lib/codecs
[06:35] <sedra> the path!!
[06:35] <anorexicpillow> How do i get to safe mode in xp?
[06:35] <Music_Shuffle> !windows | anorexicpillow
[06:35] <ubotu> anorexicpillow: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:35] <anorexicpillow> lol
[06:35] <Music_Shuffle> ;P
[06:35] <anorexicpillow> thats my problem though
[06:36] <anorexicpillow> ubuntu is my main os...
[06:36] <sacater> sedra: it dosnt exist
[06:36] <anorexicpillow> it brings up grub after the dell boot thing
[06:37] <aztracker1> anorexicpillow, is there an XP boot option from grub?  enter that, then F5 right after... iirc
[06:37] <anorexicpillow> okay thanks ill try that
[06:38] <Gosha> !iso
[06:38] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning.
[06:38] <Gosha> !burning
[06:38] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[06:38] <sedra> where to put the codecs pack??
[06:38] <sedra> path!!
[06:39] <Gosha> see ?
[06:39] <vvlaw_> shutdown command can disable the aleart warning every minuter?
[06:39] <Gosha> ah
[06:39] <Gosha> there XD
[06:40] <LinTux> How do I install samba in terminal?
[06:42] <drivera90> !torrent
[06:42] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[06:43] <drivera90> Recommend a nice torrent client.
[06:43] <panzer> hmm, could someone please help me with backup related issues? I followed the steps on the forum post http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 and i ended up with an 18gb .tgz
[06:44] <Symok> Hey, quick question: Does Ubuntu not support UDF formated DVDs, or did something possibly go wrong in the burn process?
[06:44] <_Spire_> Symok: ubuntu should support UDF
[06:44] <Symok> Hmm... ill try the disk in another comp then, one sec
[06:44] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> URGENT, PLEASE HELP: whats the blocksize of a ext3 partition created with gparted?
[06:44] <HuibertGill> panzer: whats wrong with the iso?
[06:45] <HuibertGill> panzer: if your system is 18 gigs+ , your backup will be 18 gigs...
[06:45] <panzer> i installed ubuntu 7 days ago..
[06:45] <panzer> a fresh install, and i know i havent downloaded anywhere near that much
[06:45] <panzer> Could it have backed up my windoze partion?
[06:46] <_Spire_> panzer: it could
[06:46] <_Spire_> panzer: if the windows partition was mounted, it would've backed it up
[06:46] <HuibertGill> panzer: to find aout wich directories use up a lot of space you could try "sudo du -hs /*"
[06:46] <HuibertGill> _Spire_: correct..
[06:46] <noelferreira> hi people. i have a ATI Radeon XPress 200 M graphic card. What drivers should i install? open drivers or the fglrx ones?
[06:47] <panzer> so should i use that exclude command?
[06:47] <panzer> thats on the post
[06:47] <_Spire_> panzer: I guess so, or just unmount your windows partition
[06:47] <Symok> ok, well the disk is readable on my friends windoze lappy.
[06:47] <Symok> when i try to access the disk from ubuntu it says it "the volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted" (Im trying to get to it by clicking hte CD/DVD device icon in the "computer", or on the side in the file browse windows)
[06:48] <panzer> how do you unmount them? right click unmount?
[06:48] <_Spire_> panzer: yup
[06:48] <panzer> k
[06:48] <erUSUL> UbuntuN00B_HBG: if you want to know the blocksize of ext3 partition do 'sudo dumpe2fs /dev/xxxx | grep "Block size:" '
[06:48] <HuibertGill> panzer: to analyse beforehand what uses much space you clould also use kdirstat, it is a gui tool to visualyse disk space usage
[06:48] <panzer> also, i have an 18gb backup.tgz file i cant seem to delete
[06:49] <_Spire_> Symok: if you want to do some terminal work I think you could get it mounted
[06:49] <Symok> Sure
[06:49] <panzer> ive gone command line $rmdir backup.tgz (in the current directory)
[06:50] <simmerz> does anyone use ubuntu as a xen host? I'm just trying to find out recommendations for hardware requirements for running vm's for mysql/postgres/apache/postfix+amavis+spamassassin - I want the mysql/postgres/apache bits to be able to run full pelt while postfix can be left chugging along. any ideas?
[06:50] <panzer> and it didnt delete it, also chmod-ed it to 777 and i cant delete it
[06:50] <_Spire_> Symok: OK, just open up a terminal and try running 'sudo mount -t ufs /dev/cdrom'''
[06:50] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> erUSUL: please repeat, my irc client just closed on me!
[06:50] <_Spire_> Symok: with out quotes, of course
[06:51] <drivera90> I installed BitTornado and can't find it.
[06:51] <erUSUL> UbuntuN00B_HBG: if you want to know the blocksize of ext3 partition do 'sudo dumpe2fs /dev/xxxx | grep "Block size:" '
[06:51] <panzer> drivera, use the Alcarte menu editor
[06:51] <panzer> to add it
[06:51] <HuibertGill> panzer: do a "sodu rm 18g.tgz"
[06:51] <infbliss> is it possible to use backspace while doing incremental search in GNU readline
[06:51] <Symok> it prints a help message... Don't I need to include a "target directory" in there somewhere?
[06:52] <_Spire_> Symok: my mistake :)
[06:52] <Ramosa> what do I do about Skype saying "Device is busy". only solution seems to be closing all apps, and restart Skype
[06:52] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> erUSUL: thanks, trying now!
[06:52] <Ramosa> how do I avoid this?
[06:52] <_Spire_> Symok: try 'sudo mount -t ufs /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom'
[06:52] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> erUSUL: THNX! :)
[06:52] <HuibertGill> panzer: fyi, to delete a file you need write permission on the directory, not the file, because deleting a file changes the directory structure, not the file
[06:52] <erUSUL> UbuntuN00B_HBG: no problem ;) happy new year!!
[06:53] <panzer> so should i do "sodu rm 18g.tgz" (no quotes) ?
[06:53] <_Spire_> panzer: it should be sudo not sodu
[06:53] <Symok> Same error as trying to do it through gui
[06:53] <_Spire_> Symok: weird
[06:53] <panzer> and the file is called backup so should it be "sudo rm backup.tgz" ?
[06:54] <compengi> gnomefreak, happy new year
[06:54] <_Spire_> Symok: are you just running a regular install of ubuntu?
[06:54] <LinTux> How do I install samba in terminal?
[06:54] <Symok> Should be. i downloaded the .iso from a link on ubunto.com
[06:55] <binarydigit> !apt | LinTux
[06:55] <ubotu> LinTux: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:55] <_Spire_> Symok: again, weird
[06:55] <HuibertGill> panzer: yes :-)
[06:55] <Symok> indeed...
[06:55] <panzer> great, thanks so much _spire_ and Huibertr
[06:55] <MDCore> hey all. I'm trying to set up a dwl-g650+ card in my laptop. The lights don't come on and I don't see any dev/ath0 (which is the device name in the forums). anyone have any ideas ?
[06:55] <LinTux> ubotu: Thanks, Happy New Year to you?
[06:55] <infbliss> is it possible to use backspace while doing incremental search in
[06:55] <infbliss> 	   GNU readline
[06:55] <_Spire_> Symok:  Just a second, I'll be right back
[06:55] <duder> ugh..  don't like this version of xchat at all..
[06:56] <panzer> now what should be the back up command line i type?
[06:56] <eitan> hey guys...want to know how to set ubuntu to boot to prompt instead of loading the xstart login screen
[06:56] <panzer> since i think it included the windoze one last time
[06:57] <_Spire_> Symok: back
[06:57] <LinTux> I have just installed APT, where do I find it now
[06:58] <Symok> wb
[06:58] <_Spire_> Symok: I found something that might work
[06:58] <Symok> Great
[06:58] <strabes> LinTux: you use commands like apt-get update
[06:58] <_Spire_> Symok: still at the terminal, try 'sudo modprobe udf' and then the whole mount command
[06:59] <_Spire_> Symok: see if that works
[06:59] <Symok> Still no go :(
[06:59] <eitan> hey guys...want to know how to set ubuntu to boot to prompt instead of loading the x login screen
[06:59] <hunter> italian
[07:00] <mediator> Hi guys can netall madwifi drivers?one tell me how to ins
[07:00] <HuibertGill> panzer: add the windows directory the the various excludes
[07:00] <HymnToLife> !if | hunter
[07:00] <_Spire_> Symok: you tried modprobe udf and everything after that?
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about if - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <_Spire_> Symok: darn
[07:00] <HymnToLife> !it | hunter
[07:00] <ubotu> hunter: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:00] <mediator> can anyone help to install mad wifi drivers?
[07:01] <binarydigit> !anyone | mediator
[07:01] <ubotu> mediator: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:01] <_Spire_> !madwifi
[07:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:01] <derrik> mediator: like angry wifi drivers?
[07:01] <derrik> :)
[07:01] <NET||abuse> ok,, hmm, i have a virtual user which was receiving a nasty amount of errors, due to a looping underliverable report...
[07:02] <logan_> can someone please help me with a backup? I did it wrong the first time
[07:02] <NET||abuse> now, i squashed the mailq,, but i can't delete the mails from the maildir,
[07:02] <GhostFreeman> 8 million users
[07:02] <NET||abuse> rm -f ./*
[07:02] <GhostFreeman> is that even possible for a Linux distro
[07:02] <NET||abuse> give out an error, Argument list too long
[07:02] <mediator> I want to enable wireless extesnions
[07:02] <chrusteau> is there still no possibility to have dri and composite at the same time with the fglrx-driver
[07:02] <NET||abuse> GhostFreeman, how many bits are used in the uid
[07:03] <chrusteau> ?
[07:03] <NET||abuse> ??
[07:03] <jannu1> can some1 tell what good dvb-t software for ubuntu
[07:03] <silas> Hello
[07:03] <Stormx2> jannu1: dvb-t?
[07:03] <jannu1> digitaltelvision
[07:04] <rchf> Hi, got a screen resolution problem with my ATI card on my Dell Inspiron 9400.  Its displaying 1024x768 instead of the max 1440x900.  I have read and done most of what is in FixVideoResolutionHowTo and also >read only< the guidance on http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide.  They all ask that I use the command 'aticonfig' which is not defined on my system nor can I find it in a repository.  Anyone knowledgeable abou
[07:04] <silas> How can I know the device for burning a cd?
[07:04] <Stormx2> jannu1: MythTV is meant to be a good one.
[07:04] <Stormx2> silas: A CD Burner.
[07:04] <jannu1> ok
[07:04] <HuibertGill> GhostFreeman: the later kernels support an insane amount of pids/inodes/users, the limits have bee uppped lately
[07:04] <MarcN> jannu1: I agree, MythTV is very nice.
[07:04] <Symok> I'm gonna just wait for my friend to come home, and put BT onto her comp to finish th downloads, this isnt worth the trouble right now
[07:04] <mediator> it says to set kernelpath I run "make KERNELPATH=/usr/src/linux-2.6.17.13 it returns "Please enable wireless extensions"
[07:04] <Stormx2> rchf: One moment
[07:04] <HuibertGill> GhostFreeman: but you should check kernel.org in the changelogs
[07:04] <Symok> thanks for trying
[07:04] <GhostFreeman> oh ok
[07:04] <silas> Stormx2: Sorry, I'm using cdrecord, which requires the device path (/dev/bla...) but I don't know how to use :/
[07:05] <eitan> hey guys...want to know how to set ubuntu to boot to prompt instead of loading the x login screen
[07:05] <HymnToLife> eitan, define "boot prompt"...
[07:05] <silas> Stormx2: /dev/cdrom is a link for /dev/hdc but work when reading data cdroms, I don't know about burning them.
[07:05] <Stormx2> silas: Ah. Well if you're on gnome, use serpentine
[07:05] <silas> Stormx2: I'm not. Anyway, thx.
[07:05] <MarcN> silas: /dev/cdrom is a link to which ever device is your cdrom
[07:06] <drivera90> I want to play. The gamer in me hungers. What can I do in Ubuntu?
[07:06] <eitan> HymnToLife, let me login to my system without the x gui, sort of like DOS was, so I can run "startx" when I want and have the gui load
[07:06] <drivera90> I'll play anything remotely good.
[07:06] <silas> MarcN: Yes. Under linux, the same device is used for read/writing cds? cdrecord says that /dev/cdrom is a read-only filesystem.
[07:06] <Stormx2> rchf: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <-- hit enter until you get to the resolution seciton. Put a check in the resolutions you know your monitor can support
[07:07] <eitan> drivera90, go for quake3
[07:07] <rchf> thx Stormx2
[07:07] <drivera90> eitan, how?
[07:07] <fr500> drivera90: what video card?
[07:07] <drivera90> Uh, let me check.
[07:07] <MarcN> silas: yes. It isn't like UNIX tapes which use different device names.
[07:07] <HuibertGill> GhostFreeman: but are you sure you need 8 mil users on a single host, with shell access?
[07:07] <silas> MarcN: Ok. Thank you.
[07:07] <GhostFreeman> im positive I don't
[07:08] <MarcN> silas: that is because when you burn on the CD you aren't using the usual filesystem ioctls
[07:08] <HuibertGill> GhostFreeman: for comparison , Holland has 16 mil people....
[07:08] <GhostFreeman> disregard that question
[07:08] <drivera90> Wait, I don't know how to check. I think it's a GeForce 5200 or so.
[07:08] <GhostFreeman> I don't even think it would be humanly possible
[07:08] <Stormx2> silas: I think if you look through cdrecord --help theres an option for it to look for devices.
[07:08] <HuibertGill> GhostFreeman: the sky is the limit :-)
[07:08] <dm_> exaile
[07:08] <fr500> drivera90: well if you have an Nvidia you can play even windows games
[07:08] <kaot> ahoy geniuses.  A few weeks ago (I think coinciding with some libxine updates) I lost the ability to play wmv/avi/divx/xvid files with xine, except under sudo or root.  Chown and chmod /usr/lib/codecs and /usr/lib/xine/1.1.1/plugins got me nowhere.  Anyone seen this?  Dapper, btw.
[07:08] <silas> Stormx2, MarcN: Yes, I thought I were passing the wrong dev. Thank you.
[07:09] <drivera90> I don't want to meddle with complicated windows emulation or somesuch.
[07:09] <faeryNatsuki> Feliz Ao Nuevo!!!
[07:09] <theflyingfool> how do i change an external usb hdd, formated in ntfs so its not a read only disc without losing the data
[07:09] <drivera90> I'm happy with crappy old RPGs or maybe GameBoy Advance emulators.
[07:09] <faeryNatsuki> sorry
[07:09] <Stormx2> kaot: Bleh, I know a fix for gstreamer but i take it you use xine?
[07:10] <fr500> drivera90: it's not complicated
[07:10] <faeryNatsuki> Happy New Year! :)
[07:10] <fr500> drivera90: first thing to get you gaming, is get the nvidia drivers
[07:10] <fr500> !nvidia
[07:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:10] <fr500> !ubotu
[07:10] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:10] <rchf> I ran the autodetect in FixVideoResolutionHowTo and the /etc/X11/xorg.conf script that resulted says I have a "        Device          "ATI Technologies, Inc. ATI Default Card""
[07:10] <rchf> not very helpful
[07:10] <rchf> sorry
[07:10] <HuibertGill> kaot: to play wmv the xodecs are installed in /usr/lib/win32 afaik...
[07:10] <kaot> Stormx2: yep.  Stuff plays fine in mplayer, for the record.  gstreamer doesn't get used if you just, say, run xine from command line, right?  I found some gstreamer fixes, but I'm not even sure what gstreamer does
[07:11] <Stormx2> kaot: I think gstreamer and xine are both competing audio systems...
[07:11] <HuibertGill> !gstreamer
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <kaot> HuibertGill: yeah, I think those are symlinks back to /usr/lib/codecs.  or vice-versaq
[07:12] <kaot> yer, /usr/lib/win32 are symlinks.
[07:12] <faeryNatsuki> theflyingfool, what do you mean with you is not an external disk?
[07:12] <HuibertGill> HuibertGill: gstreamer is a free as in speech audio subsystem
[07:12] <drivera90> fr500, what do I do after I get the drivers?
[07:12] <kaot> Stormx2: so they're sort of more or less unconnected, where my b0rkage is concerned.
[07:12] <kaot> I think.  :P
[07:12] <Stormx2> kaot: yeah...
[07:13] <kaot> I was just wondering if someone had already had this problem and knew a quick fix.  I appear to be out of luck for now.  no big deal.
[07:13] <frederific> can anyone reccomend a ubuntu/linux book for skilled beginner/intermediate, available in the UK?
[07:15] <theflyingfool> how do i get read access to an external hdd, formated with the ntfs filesystem **
[07:15] <faeryNatsuki> theflyingfool are you there? if you want to read write your ntfs flash disk try mounting it using ntfs-3g instead default mount, this allow you to read write the disk, but you cannot change partition format or you will lost the data, but if you don't want to change the partition type is good enough :)
[07:15] <theflyingfool> write access******
[07:16] <un_operateur> !ntfs-3g | theflyingfool
[07:16] <ubotu> theflyingfool: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:16] <faeryNatsuki> ntfs-3g, in edgy its realy easy to install, in dapper you need to do some little things by hand
[07:17] <theflyingfool> thanks
[07:17] <rchf> Stormx2: looks like my card is an ATI Graphics Card but Ubuntu reports the device as "Unknown (0x7145)"
[07:17] <un_operateur> frederific, what kabout linux do you want to learn?
[07:17] <un_operateur> s/kabout/about/
[07:18] <faeryNatsuki> hello
[07:18] <faeryNatsuki> mmm
[07:19] <faeryNatsuki> one time i saw a video about Compiz, and in the background they have a big icon to open something
 General "power user" tips, useful shell scripts, that kind of thing
[07:19] <faeryNatsuki> i want a big icon like thios, which tool is used to place such big icons?
[07:19] <eitan> hey guys...want to know how to set ubuntu to boot to a text-based prompt instead of loading the GUI X login screen
[07:19] <J-_> is there an evolution mail channel on freenode, or somewhere where I can support, or does Ubuntu support evolution?
[07:19] <un_operateur> frederific, there's a one by O'Reilly -- Ubuntu Hacks -- i believe thats what it's called
[07:19] <Jowi> faeryNatsuki, it's standard in gnome. right-click on the icon on the desktop and resize it. that simple
[07:20] <imbecile> whats the name of that firewall in synaptic with the biohazard logo?
[07:20] <faeryNatsuki> wow, i was thinking in a complex solution for a simple thing.
 OK, I'll have a look at that, thanks a lot
[07:20] <un_operateur> J-_, Evolution is Novell's product -- there's unlikely to be an "official" channel for it
[07:21] <J-_> un_operateur: ah I didn't know that. is there a Ubuntu client?
[07:21] <un_operateur> J-_, sure, there are Evolution packages for ubuntu -- I use it too
[07:22] <un_operateur> !evolution
[07:22] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 5022 kB, installed size 38204 kB
[07:22] <J-_> cool, has there been problems with Bell Sympatico problems connecting to pop/stmp servers? I can't seen to connect.
[07:23] <J-_> seem*
[07:23] <un_operateur> J-_, what is Bell Sympatico?
[07:23] <J-_> ISP
[07:24] <un_operateur> J-_, errm, well, if it appears to be an ISP problem it's them you should contact -- but how sure are you that it is an ISP problem>
[07:24] <un_operateur> ?
[07:24] <val__> hello
[07:24] <J-_> un_operateur: It could be a problem on my machine too, heh.
[07:25] <val__> will i be able to get 3d support with the default  driver that ubuntu installed?
[07:26] <un_operateur> J-_, yes, or your network setup .. have you tried pinging the mail servers?
[07:27] <un_operateur> val__, it depends -- you could find out by running this command - glxinfo  | grep -i render
[07:27] <val__> ok let me try that
[07:27] <drivera90> How do I know what kernel I'm running?
[07:27] <finn_> uname -a
[07:27] <un_operateur> drivera90, uname -r
[07:27] <nova_2> I recived and error at login screen of ubuntu, is their a log I can check for such errors?
[07:27] <binarydigit> in gnome if you change a application icon, how can you change it back to the default icon for the theme
[07:28] <val__> it says insufficient resources allocated
[07:28] <strabes> binarydigit: you can't unless you backed up the original
[07:28] <Arcad3> how to add a user
[07:28] <Arcad3> that can use sudo
[07:28] <binarydigit> strabes: theres no symlink to what the default icon should be for a theme?
[07:28] <nova_2> I received an error at login screen of ubuntu, is their a log I can check for such errors?
[07:28] <strabes> Arcad3: system, administration, users and groups
[07:29] <Arcad3> command
[07:29] <Arcad3> pls
[07:29] <Arcad3> i use server
[07:29] <strabes> binarydigit: i dunno
[07:29] <val__> unoperator,,,,does that need to be from the sudo command?
[07:29] <strabes> Arcad3: oh i dunno
[07:29] <Arcad3> i dont understand
[07:29] <panzer> is it neccessary to unmount a windows hard drive?
[07:29] <strabes> panzer: when?
[07:29] <un_operateur> Arcad3,  adduser --help  or man adduser
[07:30] <faeryNatsuki> have a nice help, you helped me a lot
[07:30] <faeryNatsuki> see you :)
[07:30] <Arcad3> more specific
[07:30] <un_operateur> val__, its quite likely that 3d will be sketchy on your card
[07:30] <Arcad3> an user that can use sudo
[07:30] <panzer> im backing up my ubuntu and last time it backed up my windows mount
[07:30] <Arcad3> i cant fuck up the user
[07:30] <nova_2> I received an error at login screen of ubuntu, is their a log I can check for such errors?
[07:30] <leexgx> lol
[07:30] <un_operateur> Arcad3, add the user and then add him to the "admin" group
[07:30] <olsen> hi, how do i install the latest nvidia drivers and beryl
[07:30] <olsen> ?
[07:30] <panzer> and i dont want it to, since it increased the size dramatically
[07:31] <Arcad3> can u give the command for this?
[07:31] <strabes> panzer: then unmount it 1st
[07:31] <val__> unoperator,,,,i dont have the nvidia drivers installed, just whatever ubuntu installed that says it doesnt specifically recognise the card
[07:31] <un_operateur> Arcad3, please try it out yourself
[07:31] <strabes> olsen: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA
[07:31] <panzer> how do you unmount them? I cant find anything about it on the forums or wiki
[07:31] <olsen> strabes: thx
[07:31] <J-_> Anyone know if I need to open any ports on my router to recieve/send email with evolution?
[07:31] <un_operateur> val__, you will need to install the nvidia drivers before anything 3d .. see !nvidia
[07:31] <strabes> panzer: sudo umount /path/to/mount/point
[07:32] <un_operateur> J-_, nope, you dont need any open ports on your side of the connection
[07:32] <J-_> k
[07:32] <panzer> great, thanks alot :) really appreciate it
[07:32] <drivera90> I'm installing nvidia drivers, following the !nvidia instructions
[07:33] <val__> ok. now my keyboard is strange, it seems that it types a few characters and then starts back at a previous word
[07:33] <drivera90> When I do "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[07:33] <drivera90> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[07:33] <drivera90> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[07:33] <un_operateur> J-_, if you can ping the servers -- try telnetting to the POP and SMTP ports -- 110 and 25 respectively
[07:34] <drivera90> I already installed linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17.10-generic, which is what I get when I do uname -r
[07:35] <HighLife> How do I get Armyops to show up in a window, rather than taking up my whole screen?
[07:35] <un_operateur> drivera90, try installing  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17.10 too
[07:35] <{SADDAMHUSSEIN}> Am I Supposed to be dead? Guess i'll hang out with lilo, by the way, he says hi :)
[07:35] <r_rehashed> HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! :D
[07:36] <Craig42> i need help with kubuntu
[07:36] <galeon> hola
[07:36] <galeon> alguien puede ayudarme
[07:36] <un_operateur> Craig42, ask a question
[07:36] <olsen> galeon: si
[07:36] <xxxx> hello
[07:36] <Craig42> When I try to boot with the live cd, either standard or safe graphics, I get this green line across the screen and it doens't boot
[07:36] <olsen> galeon: hace la pregunta...
[07:37] <galeon> es que estoy tratanso de instalar yahoo messenger
[07:37] <Craig42> its like little green dots in a horizontal straight line
[07:37] <galeon> soy nobato
[07:37] <olsen> galeon: yahoo messenger? yahoo tiene un cliente para linux?
[07:37] <galeon> si
[07:37] <olsen> galeon: porque no usar gaim?
[07:37] <Craig42> It's not a disc problem because it works on other comps
[07:37] <galeon> no puedo hacer llamadas
[07:38] <Ramosa> what do I do about Skype saying "Device is busy". only solution seems to be closing all apps, and restart Skype
[07:38] <galeon> ni ver el video
[07:38] <olsen> galeon: ah
[07:38] <sarge125> Question, is there a way to share folders on a network with linux like you can in windows?
[07:38] <un_operateur> Craig42, it's likely that your graphics card isnt supported (well??) by ubuntu -- you could try installing kubuntu in a text-mode and then fixing the issue afterwards .. but it takes some expertise
[07:38] <olsen> galeon: y cual es el problema con el yahoo messenger?
[07:38] <galeon> mejor dicho no se instalar un programa
[07:38] <un_operateur> sarge125, errm -- at your terminal  -- shares-admin
[07:39] <tarvid> swapped out the pcmcia wireless card in my notebook - how do i reconfigure the hardware
[07:39] <galeon> y tambien quiero instalar mozilla 2
[07:39] <olsen> galeon: si el yahoo messenger es binario, posiblemente lo unico que tengas que hacer es correr el ejecutable, algo asi como ./programa
[07:39] <olsen> galeon: lee el README del yahoo messenger.
[07:39] <olsen> galeon: para instalar mozilla fijate en el synaptic.
[07:39] <Music_Shuffle> Err...English much?
[07:39] <galeon> no tiene
[07:40] <Music_Shuffle> ...por que no?
[07:40] <drivera90> !es
[07:40] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:40] <olsen> galeon: agregaste los demas repositorios (universe/multiverse)?
[07:40] <Music_Shuffle> Heheh.
[07:40] <Music_Shuffle> Indeed.
[07:40] <galeon> olle me estas dejando nulo
[07:40] <Craig42> hmm..is there like an underground version of ubuntu out there, that has proprietary drivers  preinstalled
[07:40] <galeon> de linux casi no conosco
[07:41] <Music_Shuffle> Craig42, I dunno if Mint does.
[07:41] <olsen> galeon: tu eres de espanha?
[07:41] <Winter-1> mi madre esta aqui
[07:41] <galeon> no colombia
[07:41] <Music_Shuffle> ...
[07:41] <Music_Shuffle> Now you guys are OT, and in the wrong language :P
[07:41] <un_operateur> Craig42, errm, no OS/Distro can possible have all drivers supported -- it's quite impossible
[07:41] <imbecile> how do i show hidden folders in home folder?
[07:41] <un_operateur> possibly*
[07:41] <olsen> Music_Shuffle: what?
[07:42] <w3ccv> imbecile, ls -a
[07:42] <olsen> Music_Shuffle: oh
[07:42] <Music_Shuffle> Right.
[07:42] <un_operateur> imbecile, in the properties/preferences of your file-browser, i suppose
[07:42] <sarge125> un_operateur, thank you
[07:42] <un_operateur> sarge125, yw
[07:42] <Music_Shuffle> imbecile, ctrl-H
[07:43] <Craig42> I know, that's definately true, but my card is last gen and was somewhat mainstream (x800), which is why i'm baffled at the fact it will work for my 5 year old comp but not mine
[07:43] <Music_Shuffle> is the command in Naut.
[07:43] <galeon> alguien me puede decir el servidor de ubuntu en espaol
[07:43] <val__> any help with keyboards? it seems i start typing and somehow the cursor  goes to the start of a previous word,,,,?
[07:43] <un_operateur> Craig42, which vendor manufactures the card?
[07:44] <Music_Shuffle> galeon, ha tratado #ubuntu-es?
[07:44] <Craig42> connect3d
[07:44] <un_operateur> val__, which application is this in?
[07:44] <Craig42> ATI connect3d
[07:44] <galeon> no lo voy a hacer gracias
[07:44] <Music_Shuffle> ..por que no? >.>
[07:44] <val__> like right now in chat or when i type a url in the web browser
[07:45] <Arcad3> how to add an user to the admin group..pls tell me the command
[07:45] <un_operateur> Craig42, ahh,, ATI's drivers are restricted -- meaning ubuntu does not support them out of the box -- they need to be installed seperately once you get ubuntu up and running
[07:45] <noelferreira> hi people. i have a ATI Radeon XPress 200 M graphic card. What drivers should i install? open drivers or the fglrx ones?
[07:45] <fmachado> !adduser | Arcad3
[07:45] <ubotu> Arcad3: To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo
[07:45] <Arcad3> thanks
[07:46] <dm_> Hey guys whats the default font for gnome
[07:46] <Craig42> yes, I remember reading about that. Is it because ati's drivers are closed, and nvida's are open source?
[07:46] <un_operateur> !ati | noelferreira, Craig42
[07:46] <ubotu> noelferreira, Craig42: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:46] <pradeep> dm_, sans
[07:47] <un_operateur> Craig42, both Ati's and Nvidia's drivers are closed/restricted
[07:47] <dm_> pradeep thanks
[07:47] <Music_Shuffle> un_operateur has divine bot skills ;)
[07:47] <noelferreira> hi Craig42. i have a ATI Radeon XPress 200 M graphic card. What drivers should i install? open drivers or the fglrx ones?
[07:47] <dm_> anyone here use LISTEN ?
[07:47] <un_operateur> Music_Shuffle, bot-operation skills, you mean? :>
[07:48] <Music_Shuffle> Right.
[07:48] <konam> There's a way to install reconstructor in dapper, it ask me for a dependency that isn't available for dapper
[07:48] <un_operateur> noelferreira, please read the wiki posted there :)
[07:48] <Craig42> my brothers laptop has an ati integrated card, I think the xpress series, so how come kubuntu will work for that but not mine
[07:49] <Music_Shuffle> Craig42, you have a what?
[07:49] <noelferreira> So i should install flgrx drivers Craig42?
[07:49] <un_operateur> Craig42, well, it's like windows -- the OS installs a very generic driver that allows you to get the GUI up and running so you can later install the right and more specific drivers -- sometimes the generic driver fails
[07:49] <ubuntu__> I'm having a hard time getting my touchscreen to work correctly in edgy. It's a Panasonic Toughbook CF-28. The screen registers the touch, but both the screen and the touchpad are not working correctly.
[07:49] <Music_Shuffle> Integrated in general I think have better odds of functionality, falls to the chipset maker then.
[07:50] <Craig42> Ah, I see. Well, that makes sense.
[07:50] <un_operateur> noelferreira, please read this  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:50] <val__> operator,,,any suggestions on the keyboard? seems occurs whn i press the space bar at times
[07:50] <ubuntu__> The touch pad acts like a poorly calibrated touchscreen, being sensitive to the region touched, and both are not calibrated, and have a problem with clicking a whole lot under normal operation.
[07:50] <Music_Shuffle> While the cardmakers have no real incentive to support us anymore than their token efforts right now.
[07:50] <un_operateur> val__, errm, baffles me -- i dunno how i'd resolve that, sorry :(
[07:50] <Craig42> Can you give me a link to walk me through a text-based installation...or should I just buy another video card..LOL
[07:51] <ubuntu__> if I click on the desktop, I'm automatically dragging a highlight box, and double clicking everything, and the pointer is never under my finger.
[07:51] <ubuntu__> Where do I start?
[07:51] <Nintendud> okay...
[07:51] <nixternal> !ops
[07:51] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[07:51] <Nintendud> what a fag {uber1337} is...
[07:51] <Nintendud> trying to exploit us somehow
[07:51] <Nintendud> ;p
[07:52] <ubuntu__> Did my messaages post?
[07:52] <val__> wireless issue now,,,i tried ndiswrapper and doesnt work...is the fwcutter recommended then for the broadcom drivers,,,its a wirelss card in my laptop
[07:52] <nixternal> {uber1337} n=didqlqeb@12.116.87.82
[07:52] <un_operateur> Craig42, IIRC you will need to download and use the Alternate CD .. i think it's the only one capable of a text-based install
[07:53] <Seveas> sigh
[07:53] <nixternal> sorry Seveas for the ops call, my screen didn't refresh :)
[07:53] <Seveas> it's moron time!
[07:53] <Seveas> (nixternal: not meaning you with that_
[07:53] <Craig42> Someone mentioned Linux Mint...Doest that have ati drivers built in??
[07:53] <Seveas> nixternal, the ban was automatic, thanks for the call
[07:53] <nixternal> no prob
[07:53] <Music_Shuffle> Craig42, I dunno.
[07:55] <Craig42> K, I'll give that a shot and comeback if it doesn't work. thanks for the help guys
[07:55] <drivera90> Alright, I installed nVidia drivers.
[07:55] <drivera90> Now I want to play something.
[07:56] <Music_Shuffle> Gogo.
[07:56] <Seveas> drivera90, apt-get install planetpenguin-racer
[07:56] <HymnToLife> drivera90, sudo apt-get install supertux :)
[07:56] <olsen> drivera90: get doom 3, quake 4, etc
[07:56] <olsen> althought those aren't open source
[07:56] <drivera90> olsen, how?
[07:57] <HymnToLife> there's a native linux build of NEverWinter Nights, too
[07:57] <HymnToLife> just installed it yesterday
[07:57] <drivera90> I've never played that. What is it like?
[07:57] <Zambezi> I downloaded Edgy, but it doesn't boot from the CD. And Dapper-CD got broke or the problem is with the CD-drive. It's found in BIOS.
[07:58] <olsen> drivera90: there are some demos of doom 3 and quake 4
[07:58] <olsen> drivera90: check out in ftp.idsoftware.com
[07:59] <Zambezi> Any idea what I can do? I get a red screen during the installation and it worked earlier.
[07:59] <HymnToLife> !alternate | Zambezi
[07:59] <ubotu> Zambezi: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[08:01] <Zambezi> HymnToLife, I don't want desktop since I need maximum space free. I installed Kubntu-desktop and about 700 packages. I would like to erase them or reinstall. I prefer something quick. The problem is I don't have so much time left.
[08:01] <what_if> is there any reason that I should choose "install a server" VS "OEM install" ? The system will be a server but with GUI interfaces to the services
[08:01] <what_if> is the OEM install less secure in any way ?
[08:02] <Seveas> what_if, you should choose neither in that case
[08:02] <Zambezi> what_if, I would say server and install the packages you need after that.
[08:02] <Seveas> just do the regular install
[08:02] <olsen> does anyone knows if telepathy will be implemented in feisty?
[08:02] <olsen> for gaim, etc
[08:02] <kitche> what_if: OEM install is how the Windows OEM is pretty much
[08:02] <olsen> err, or gaim will support telepathy
[08:02] <CarlFK> where are the PPC netboot files?  (they are on on ubuntu-6.10-alternate-powerpc.iso like they are for x86)
[08:03] <what_if> Seveas: I also need the least space possible, default install is quite large
[08:03] <kitche> olsen: probably not since gaim doesn't even support it right now
[08:03] <Seveas> what_if, then take server install
[08:03] <Zambezi> what_if, Have you consider serverversion with Enlightenment as WM?
[08:04] <CarlFK> what_if: then you want server, which is about 300mb.  and gets you what you need to apt-get install what you want
[08:04] <Seveas> OEM install is regular install, but without final configuration
[08:04] <olsen> kitche: what about telepathy-gossip?
[08:04] <Seveas> so it's useless in your case
[08:04] <what_if> IC... server install it is
[08:04] <rchf> anyone know ddcprobe well enough to explain why it might list every mode except the one I >know< it supports (which is listed instead as 'dtiming: 1440x900@70' ?
[08:05] <Music_Shuffle> Amarok help? ./Sigh. I xkilled it, and it refuses to...reopen now.
[08:05] <unimatrix9> hi there
[08:05] <kitche> olsen: well I run the latest gaim and I don't notice that telepathy is part of it, but telepathy and gaim seem to do the same stuff just that telepathy does it different
[08:05] <unimatrix9> got ubuntu 6.06 lts how do i start SLAB?
[08:05] <TehBigToe> which package is the Microsoft fonts (verdana, comic etc)
[08:06] <Zambezi> what_if, You need to install xserver later and something like gdm, xclient-system-core (not sure about the name) so you can start the X-server.
[08:06] <Seveas> TehBigToe, msttcorefonts
[08:06] <TehBigToe> thanks
[08:06] <HymnToLife> Zambezi, msttcorefonts
[08:06] <HymnToLife> damn, pwn3d
[08:06] <Seveas> HymnToLife, :p
[08:06] <TehBigToe> lol
[08:06] <HymnToLife> !language | HymnToLife
[08:06] <ubotu> HymnToLife: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:06] <TehBigToe> !language
[08:06] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:06] <olsen> kitche: i was talking about the voice and video part of telepathy
[08:06] <TehBigToe> just genrally keep it family friendly :P
[08:07] <dehvokahn> does anyone know the line in about:config for firefox to set the middle mouse button to, when clicked, become a scroll arrow that moves up/down based on mouse movement?
[08:07] <unimatrix9> SLAB does someone know  a bit more about how to start it?
[08:07] <unimatrix9> !slab
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <kitche> olsen: well it won't have that from what I have seen when I used gaim-beta5
[08:07] <earthen> hey guys I'm trying to add the pub Keys from Trevios Ubuntu Edgy Sources list but his commands are not working anyone know why
[08:07] <HymnToLife> unimatrix9, what is SLAB ?
[08:08] <HymnToLife> earthen, maybe we'll know if you tell us the commands you type and the errors you get
[08:08] <unimatrix9> slab is the suse menu but then for ubuntu
[08:08] <earthen> HymnToLife, gpg keyserver subkeys.pgp.net recv KEY
[08:08] <earthen> HymnToLife,  and this one gpg export armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[08:09] <Music_Shuffle> Amarok help? ./Sigh. I xkilled it, and it refuses to...reopen now.
[08:09] <Seveas> Music_Shuffle, reboot
[08:09] <Music_Shuffle> Seveas, right, we established that as a solution, but there's no...simpler way?
[08:09] <stef> dehvokahn: general.autoScroll
[08:09] <Seveas> Music_Shuffle, ps f -e
[08:09] <Seveas> and pastebin the output
[08:10] <ryanpg> is there somewhere I can adjust the "nice value" of Xorg when it runs?
[08:10] <dehvokahn> stef, excellent - thank you - that's exactly what i couldn't find :)
[08:10] <earthen> HymnToLife, all I get is printed on the next line "usage: gpg [options]  [filename] 
[08:10] <earthen> "
[08:10] <HymnToLife> bad syntax /me thinks
[08:10] <Seveas> earthen, trevinos list is a sure way to ruin your system
[08:11] <w3ccv> ryanakca, you could 'renice'
[08:11] <earthen> HymnToLife, Of cource i've replace the word KEY with the actual key
[08:11] <earthen> Seveas, it is! why is that
[08:11] <HymnToLife> yeah anyway, you shouldn't use 3rd pary repos in the first place
[08:11] <earthen> Seveas,  I'm not using all of his list just some things I want
[08:11] <Seveas> earthen, if I'm very nice I say he's one of the stupidest persons I've seen. If i'm not too nice I'd be violating the code of conduct
[08:12] <w3ccv> ryanpg, you could use 'renice'
[08:12] <Seveas> his repository and sources.list contain more crap than the brain of george bush
[08:12] <Music_Shuffle> Seveas, /sigh.  How do I avoid the 'Thou Shalt not Spam the Pastebin' message?
[08:12] <earthen> Seveas,  WOW that harsh!
[08:12] <Seveas> Music_Shuffle, use a javascript capable browser
[08:12] <ryanpg> w3ccv, not every time it runs though
[08:12] <Music_Shuffle> Err....like which?
[08:12] <Seveas> firefox
[08:12] <w3ccv> ryanakca, sri - wrong target, ignore
[08:12] <Music_Shuffle> I am.
[08:12] <HymnToLife> Music_Shuffle, use another pastebin and pastebin the URL
[08:12] <HymnToLife> and give us the URL of the pasebined URL :p
[08:12] <Seveas> odd... do you get javascript errors Music_Shuffle ?
[08:13] <Music_Shuffle> Nope.
[08:13] <ryanpg> w3ccv, iirc xorg runs with a specified nice value... dunno where that value is stored though
[08:13] <Music_Shuffle> Seveas, http://paste.uni.cc/12514
[08:13] <earthen> Seveas, would you know how to add keys so your sorces work then
[08:14] <Seveas> Music_Shuffle, amarok is still running
[08:14] <sarge125> un_operateur, hey its me again, I must have done something wronge because the folder I shared isnt showing up on my windows computer.
[08:15] <nkRush> oh boy, gaim sucks as an IRC client =/
[08:15] <Music_Shuffle> I saw, but under Terminal, it gives me a 'no process was killed' when I use 'killall amarok'
[08:15] <Seveas> Music_Shuffle, kill -9 7922 19060 16160
[08:15] <Seveas> nkRush, :)
[08:15] <Music_Shuffle> Now I should be able to just...restart it? O_o
[08:15] <ToHellWithGA> i installed to a computer with "unknown monitor" and guessed an overly-high resolution.  how can i set GNOME to use an appropriate resolution like 1152x864?  right now it's all scrambled-looking
[08:15] <olsen> nkRush: sudo apt-get install irssi
[08:15] <Banshee19> hi everyone
[08:16] <Music_Shuffle> Woah. Much thanks Seveas. xD
[08:16] <Seveas> Music_Shuffle, now reboot ;)
[08:16] <Music_Shuffle> Now it starts. O_o
[08:16] <Music_Shuffle> So when you kill -9, you can do that based on PID's?
[08:16] <freeze> dvd drive not reading one of my cd's
[08:16] <abhinay> Wish Happy New Year to all
[08:16] <nkRush> I'll give it a try
[08:17] <freeze> Unable to mount the selected volume. The volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted.
[08:17] <olsen> abhinay: thanks, for you too.
[08:17] <Banshee19> does anyone know if the dwl-g630 is supported in ubuntu
[08:17] <w3ccv> ryanpg, try looking in init.d - I'm on a system that uses X11, sri can't be of further help.
[08:17] <sacater> freeze: is it an audio CD
[08:17] <Craig42> I have another question,
[08:18] <freeze> dvd drive not reading this error comes up Unable to mount the selected volume. The volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted.
[08:18] <Craig42> when I have ubuntu installed, is there a way for it to recognize the windows partiations i have on my hard drive
[08:18] <freeze> any1 recognize?
[08:18] <sacater> freeze: what kind  of CD is it?? AUDIO?
[08:18] <freeze> sacater, its a dvd cd
[08:18] <sacater> ah
[08:18] <freeze> sacater, its got some tutorial videos on it
[08:19] <sarge125> I having a problem, i used shares-admin in terminal. I shared a folder so I can access it on a windows computer. I think I messed up because the folder is not showing up
[08:19] <sacater> freeze: try in terminal 'sudo apt-get install libdvdcss
[08:19] <sacater> freeze: or go into synaptic and look up libdvdcss
[08:19] <freeze> sacater, already have newest version css2
[08:19] <sambagirl> is there a standard for sound for linux?
[08:20] <sambagirl> in otherwords is there a setting you should set?
[08:20] <sacater> sacater: you are sure that your dvd codecs have been installed
[08:20] <freeze> sacater, i am almost positive that i installed them
[08:20] <freeze> sacater, i could be wrong
[08:21] <sarge125> is there a way to set a linux computer apart of a network workgroup, like mshome for example
[08:21] <sacater> freeze: i have the originals on my computer, would you like me to send them?
[08:21] <freeze> sacater, i ran the command dmesg | tail and it told me that its unable to identify CD-ROM format
[08:21] <freeze> i am running edgy
[08:21] <freeze> originals to what
[08:21] <freeze> maybe i should just try to uninstall then reinstall
[08:21] <battini> Can anybody point me to a howto on installing ubuntu on lvm? I just started the install and was looking through the partitioning options and see nothing about lvm, is lvm something i do afterwards?
[08:21] <phr34ck> Hey, I'm using Xchat .. how can I see the list of users in the channel ?
[08:22] <Craig42> when I have ubuntu installed, is there a way for it to recognize the windows partiations i have on my hard drive?
[08:22] <olsen> phr34ck: there is a list in your right.
[08:22] <sambagirl> thats like a domain controller
[08:22] <sambagirl> uninstall and reinstall? this isnt windows :D
[08:22] <freeze> sacater, they were burned off a windows machine but i see no problem in that
[08:22] <phr34ck> Olsen, thanks a lot.
[08:22] <olsen> phr34ck: with your mouse, move it and you should see it, or try /names in the channel.
[08:22] <needhelp> Hi. I need some help. I installed Ubuntu on my system, and now I want to reinstall Windows. However, during the WinXP Setup process, the installation can access the hard drive, possibly because Ubuntu cancelled access to it. What do I do?
[08:22] <sacater> freeze: no no, i meant libdvdcss2
[08:22] <phr34ck> Man, I'm having tones of problems =)
[08:22] <olsen> phr34ck: sure
[08:22] <Banshee19> i would so love to get rid of winblows  just doesnt seem to be my day for that
[08:22] <tyme_> whats the best irc chat
[08:23] <freeze> sacater, now when i try to install it it says its obsolete
[08:23] <phr34ck> How can I download packages from the Internet?
[08:23] <freeze> sacater, so now i am just wondering what the new package is
[08:23] <Music_Shuffle> !apt | phr34ck
[08:23] <ubotu> phr34ck: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[08:23] <kitche> phr34ck: I know that the alternate cd does lvm on install not sure about the live cd though
[08:23] <needhelp> !uninstall
[08:23] <sarge125> Craig42, yea go to this website for that http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/toptip3.shtml
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <needhelp>  Hi. I need some help. I installed Ubuntu on my system, and now I want to reinstall Windows. However, during the WinXP Setup process, the installation can access the hard drive, possibly because Ubuntu cancelled access to it. What do I do?
[08:23] <battini> kitche was that for me?
[08:23] <sarge125> ive done it myself
[08:23] <battini> I downloaded the latest server install
[08:24] <sacater> freeze: do these commands, im sure it will help, 'sudo apt-get remove libdvdcss2'
[08:24] <phr34ck> Hey, I just downloaded firefox (tar.gz) file, and I have unzipped it. What's next to install it ?
[08:24] <freeze> did that
[08:24] <sacater> freeze: then sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[08:24] <freeze> sacater, i did that already
[08:24] <freeze> sacater, it says that the pacakge is obsolete
[08:24] <needhelp> HELP!!! I installed Ubuntu on my system, and now I want to reinstall Windows. However, during the WinXP Setup process, the installation can access the hard drive, possibly because Ubuntu cancelled access to it. What do I do?
[08:24] <TooR4u> hi ... i want to record the sound of a .swf file .... is it possible..........>>??
[08:25] <sacater> freeze: then i honestly cant help you m8
[08:25] <sarge125> is there a way to set a linux computer apart of a network workgroup, like mshome for example?
[08:25] <freeze> needhelp: just delete the partitions
[08:25] <freeze> sarge125, samba
[08:25] <sacater> freeze: /j #welp  ...  . ask welp
[08:25] <needhelp> freeze: how do I delete them?
[08:25] <Music_Shuffle> On the Windows install, there's an option to repartition the drive...
[08:26] <phr34ck> Hey, I just downloaded firefox (tar.gz) file, and I have unzipped it. What's next to install it ?
[08:26] <freeze> needhelp: i would think just in the bootloader
[08:26] <sarge125> freeze, i set the file to be shared with samba but its still not showing up
[08:26] <needhelp> freeze: what's the bootloader?
[08:26] <kitche> battini: yeah thatw as to you sorry about that with xterm it's hard for me to parse irssi
[08:26] <Li`lEndian> Hello alll :D
[08:26] <freeze> sarge125, whats your samba config look like? pastebin it
[08:26] <battini> kitche heh, I understand, so lvm off the bat isnt something I can do with the server install cd?
[08:26] <needhelp> freeze: then my computer would have no OS and i could install winxp, then?
[08:26] <freeze> needhelp: did u partition through a GUI?
[08:26] <Banshee19> when trying to setup wireless in ubuntu 6.06, it finds the adaptor it lets me activate it and (sometimes) connect to the AP. gets dns and ip but internet ect dont work. any suggestions ?
[08:26] <freeze> needhelp: exactly
[08:26] <sarge125> freeze, samba config?
[08:27] <TooR4u> hi ... i want to record the sound of a .swf file .... is it possible..........>>??
[08:27] <needhelp> freeze: Ubuntu is my PC only os. How do I do it in the boot loader
[08:27] <freeze> freeze, the only way to network linux is with samba
[08:27] <kitche> battini: hmm not that I know of I only use the alternate cd myself
[08:27] <battini> grrr
[08:27] <TooR4u> it is possible to record the sound of a ,swf file?
[08:27] <battini> that would of been nice to know before hand
[08:27] <battini> owell.
[08:27] <interrupt> why dont you just decompile the swf and strip the audio
[08:27] <HLM> is spam assassin just for mail severs or can it be used for a desktop ?
[08:27] <battini> ill just add it in afterwards and just have a huge /storage
[08:27] <change_me> AAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGH
[08:28] <phr34ck> !APT
[08:28] <sarge125> well i have set the folder i want to share with shares-admin to samba but thats all I've done, is there something else i neeed to do?
[08:28] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[08:28] <suyuki> sorry
[08:28] <sarge125> and i dont even know where samba.cfg is
[08:28] <freeze> needhelp: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/247804
[08:28] <olsen> Banshee19: that depends on the DHCP server <-> client configuration, find out that you get the right ip, gateway and dns from the router.
[08:28] <TooR4u> interrupt, how to decompile it i dont know....
[08:28] <freeze> read that
[08:28] <TooR4u> how to decompile it?
[08:28] <needhelp> freeze: i'll take a look at that site. thanx.
[08:28] <Banshee19> olsen> i get all that
[08:28] <fmachado> !swat | sarge125
[08:28] <ubotu> sarge125: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:28] <interrupt> toor4u you need to look for a linux decompiler or use a windows machine to do it.
[08:28] <Banshee19> just internet says theres no connection
[08:28] <kitche> HLM: it's for mail servers but you can install it on your desktop and have a mail server grab the mail from your mail server and have it run though spam assassin
[08:28] <duzys> hi, what means PGP ?
[08:28] <suyuki> I keep getting that same "undeclared - first use in this function" error when I try to compile anything
[08:28] <freeze> sarge125, its usually in /etc/samba
[08:29] <olsen> Banshee19: strange, can you ping the gateway from your isp?
[08:29] <freeze> sarge125, u need to edit smb.conf
[08:29] <slicky> is it possible to get my panasonic DV cam to work as a webcam in linux?  via usb2  i donnt what chip it on n stuff
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> duzys: pretty good privacy
[08:29] <suyuki> I guess I'm lacking some packages
[08:29] <Banshee19> olsen> yes and i get an answer
[08:29] <HLM> ty kitche
[08:29] <suyuki> no clue which tho
[08:29] <TooR4u> interrupt, i need linux decompiler...
[08:29] <battini> thanks kitche, I dont know how you can stand to be in here :)
[08:29] <olsen> Banshee19: sure you have all the DNS in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[08:29] <Banshee19> olsen> funny thng is i have a friend with the same adapter as me and i have him try and the adapter and everything worked fine
[08:29] <Banshee19> olsen> yes
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> duzys: It's used for verifying packages, e-mails, etc.
[08:30] <duzys> tonyyarusso.. and that means ? it is a stupid question but where do i find such pgps ?
[08:30] <olsen> Banshee19: strange.
[08:30] <xtian> just curious, is there a script somewhere that tells ubuntu the location of the wallpaper, and if so, where is it, i want to take a look.
[08:30] <Banshee19> olsen it is
[08:30] <duzys> tonyyarusso, for example i want to create one, what can i do?
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> duzys: Can you be more specific?
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> !gpg | duzys
[08:30] <ubotu> duzys: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[08:30] <olsen> Banshee19: can you ping www.google.com ?
[08:30] <duzys> tonyyarusso, thanks
[08:30] <sarge125> freeze, well i pull it up and where did u want me to pastebin it to?\
[08:30] <Banshee19> could t be that it finds the wrong "driver " for my adapter
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> duzys: Also, see Class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[08:31] <Banshee19> olsen> had to go back to windows to get online again :(
[08:31] <freeze> sarge125, if u have not edited it yet then i already know what it looks like
[08:31] <slicky> anyone?
[08:31] <sarge125> freeze, i have not edited it yet
[08:32] <TooR4u> is there any .swf decompiler for linux?
[08:32] <olsen> Banshee19: do you have the same ip address, gateway and DNS's in windows and ubuntu?
[08:32] <TooR4u> if so can u plz tell me
[08:32] <freeze> sarge: ok so are you near your windows machine?
[08:32] <Duck_> does anyone know how to run the jackd server?
[08:32] <Banshee19> yes
[08:32] <suyuki> anyone know why I keep getting the "undeclared - first use in this function" error when doing a "make menuconfig"??
[08:32] <zcherus> can someone help me setup up port forwarding, i use ubuntu as a router for my windows box and need to set it up
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> slicky: I'm not sure, but I would look on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport and ubuntuforums.org perhaps.
[08:32] <kitche> man I'll brb need to switch to the shell so I can parse irssi easier
[08:32] <phr34ck> can I use APT-GET to get packages from the Internet?
[08:32] <olsen> Banshee19: what nic do you have?
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> phr34ck: Of course - that's its job
[08:33] <sarge125> freeze, Im talking to you on the windows comp, the linux is right next to me
[08:33] <Banshee19> dlink dwl-g630
[08:33] <phr34ck> it's not working. I'm using this: sudo apt-get install bitchx
[08:33] <olsen> Banshee19: wireless?
[08:33] <phr34ck> it never works.
[08:33] <Banshee19> yes
[08:33] <Banshee19> pcmcia
[08:33] <TooR4u> is there any .swf decompiler for linux?
[08:33] <drivera90> Does anyone know wtf this means?
[08:33] <olsen> brb
[08:33] <drivera90> Linux - SDL - glibc22
[08:33] <freeze> sarge125, ok so is your windows machine on a workgroup or a domain?>
[08:33] <drivera90> It's the link to download VisualBoy Advance, and that's the Linux version
[08:33] <sarge125> workgroup, mshome
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> phr34ck: Error?
[08:33] <drivera90> But I don't know what SDL - glibc22 means.
[08:34] <phr34ck> cannot find the package, eventhough that line is taking from bitchx website
[08:34] <xtian> which file tells ubuntu 6.10 what wallpaper to use?
[08:34] <Duck_> does anyone know how to run the jackd server?
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> !universe | phr34ck
[08:34] <ubotu> phr34ck: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:34] <zcherus> port forwarding .. help ... or cmd line torrent client :P
[08:34] <freeze> ok so check this out
[08:34] <phr34ck> tonny, could you give me something fast just to test ?
[08:34] <phr34ck> it doesn't matter if I'm using a proxy server, yes?
[08:34] <TooR4u> interrupt said that there is a .swf decompiler for linux .... is it exists?
[08:34] <freeze> sarge125, what you wanna do is this
[08:34] <Jowi> is freenx faster than vnc? I'm using x11vnc at the moment and it works well but wanted to try freenx instead. ssh connection works well from the outside as well. but the windows client can not "start local X session" connecting to dapper nxserver. anywone know what cause this?
[08:34] <freeze> sarge125, let me show you what my smb file looks like
[08:35] <freeze> sarge125, i will paste bin it
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> phr34ck: 'sudo apt-get install irssi' (irssi is in main, enabled by default; bitchx is in universe, which is not)
[08:35] <haxality> hey, I was just wondering how hard it would be to get 3d support for my video card working, since I'm pretty sure it can do some 3d stuff
[08:35] <haxality> and before you link me to nvidia/ATI tutorials
[08:35] <sarge125> i forget the website adress fir pastebin
[08:35] <phr34ck> The thing is that I never got it download anything from the Internet
[08:35] <suyuki> any info on "first use in this function" error when I do a "make menuconfig" - I'm trying to install linux-source-2.6.18
[08:35] <haxality> it's not an nvidia or ati card
[08:35] <freeze> sarge125, http://pastebin.ca/298250
[08:35] <phr34ck> it always say that it's the newset version
[08:35] <haxality> it's a trident cyberblade
[08:36] <phr34ck> if the package is in Universe, what am I suppose to do in order to download it?
[08:36] <Siv0x> Anyone know how to get sound in CS:S with WINE, my problem is that i'm not getting sound in cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp ?
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> haxality: Take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport and wander around #ubuntu-xgl would be my recommendation.  Hopefully one of those two has some info on it.
[08:36] <haxality> thank you :)
[08:36] <sarge125> freeze, ok so what do i have to change for it to work for me, just work group to mshome?
[08:36] <zcherus> adslbridge - ubunty edgy (no gui) - windows box, what do i need to do to be able to download torrents on windows box
[08:37] <freeze> sarge125, yes just change it to mshome
[08:37] <slicky> tonyyarusso: ok thanks ill have a look at it :)
[08:37] <freeze> sarge125, and then as well u have to create folders on ur linux machine thats where myshares on mine come in
[08:37] <phr34ck> Hey, I have downloaded gparted in order to format my external hdd, which is using NTFs, but the format option is disabled.
[08:37] <freeze> sarge125, then you as well have to chmod then to 777
[08:37] <Jowi> !freenx
[08:37] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[08:38] <phr34ck> Any idea on how to make it work ?
[08:38] <suyuki> make menuconfig keeps giving me the "undeclared - first use in this function" error, any help?
[08:38] <sarge125> im looking at my smb.conf and it doesnt look anything like urs
[08:38] <drivera90> Hm, where would something like visualboyadvance be installed to?
[08:38] <freeze> just delete everything in that file
[08:38] <freeze> thats what i did
[08:38] <freeze> all that shit is not needed
[08:38] <freeze> what so ever
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> zcherus: I don't know the answer, but if nobody else does I can point you in the right direction: you'll need to mess with iptables settings.  If you want a gui method, I think Firestarter has that as one of it's options.
[08:39] <zcherus> no gui installed on linux box
[08:39] <drivera90> Where are things installed to by default?
[08:39] <KenSentMe> Is it possible to make a script that runs banshee or rhythmbox with a non-default soundcard? I have two soundcards and don't want to manually switch every time i want to play music through my second card.
[08:39] <bruenig> lets say I have a dvd image called foo.iso and a dvd drive at /dev/hdc with a blank dvd in it, how could I burn foo.iso to that blank dvd without gui
[08:39] <sarge125> one sec freeze brb
[08:39] <zcherus> tonyyarusso: thanks for tip though
[08:39] <freeze> yup
[08:39] <bruenig> I tried dd if=foo.iso of=/dev/hdc but got an error that it was a read only filesystem
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> zcherus: Oh, right, you said that :S  Yeah, iptables then
[08:41] <zcherus> tonyyarusso: any good source to read from about setting it up?
[08:41] <binarydigit> bruenig: use cdrecord
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> zcherus: 'man iptables' I assume.  I'm sure there's more, but I'll bet that's pretty extensive itself
[08:41] <zcherus> ok thanks
[08:42] <freeze> i am still having an issue with my pc reading a dvd-r cd... i have a few tutorial videos on it and it seems to not be able to read the cd what so ever...
[08:42] <drivera90> Where the hell do things get installed :/
[08:43] <sarge125> ok freeze im back sorry bout that
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> drivera90: All over.
[08:43] <drivera90> I sudo apt-get install'd visualboyadvance.
[08:43] <drivera90> I don't know where it is now.
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> drivera90: Just type 'visualboyadvance' most likely
[08:44] <drivera90> Also, someone told me how to mount the Windows partition on my hdd to navigate it, but I forgot how.
[08:44] <Stargazers> Hi. Can someone help me with program called 'abcde'?
[08:45] <Stargazers> I can't make scandinavian chars work in tags. It always makes them wrong (I mean  and  etc).
[08:45] <haxality> just wondering, what processor architecture is a Pentium M, circa 2003?
[08:46] <wsjunior> how do i start a game in another x session from command line?
[08:46] <wsjunior> something like xinit -- ??? :? ....
[08:46] <sarge125> Freeze, my workgroup is already set to mshome, and even when i try to change it i cant save it, dont have permission
[08:46] <HymnToLife> haxality, define "processor architecture"...
[08:47] <freeze> sarge125, you have to sudo the file when you goto edit smb.conf
[08:47] <wsjunior> the problem is that xgl doesnt support opengl yet so i would like to use xgl and start games in a separate xorg session.. is it possible?!
[08:47] <Stargazers> wsjunior: What you mean? game --DISPLAY :2
[08:47] <Stargazers> Or that?
[08:47] <wsjunior> Stargazers: look the last message
[08:47] <Stargazers> Did I understood right, err.
[08:47] <Stargazers> Sorry.
[08:47] <Stargazers> I wrote that before I read it :)
[08:47] <m0> hello, I am experiencing alot of wireless connectivity problems using my bcm43xx card on my laptop
[08:47] <wsjunior>  game --DISPLAY :2
[08:48] <wsjunior> ?
[08:48] <kitche> wsjunior: you need to do a xnest
[08:48] <Stargazers> Yep?
[08:48] <wsjunior> i dont want a nested session
[08:48] <m0> has anyone had any problems runnign wireless on their laptop?
[08:48] <wsjunior> i want to switch with control f7,8...
[08:48] <wsjunior> so i need to start a session before that Stargazers
[08:49] <wsjunior> how?!
[08:49] <sarge125> uh i get an error in term when i try to sudo edi smb.conf
[08:49] <phr34ck> hey, when I use this: sudo apt-get install wine .. it gives me this: sudo timestamp too far in the future,
[08:49] <phr34ck> What does it mean ?
[08:49] <wsjunior> it means u need an apt-get update maybe..
[08:49] <freeze> sarge125, run sudo gedit smb.conf
[08:49] <Stargazers> wsjunior: Another X session? Oh.
[08:50] <wsjunior> Stargazers: yes
[08:50] <Stargazers> Hmmh, let me remember.
[08:50] <phr34ck> the sudo command is not working at all. It's giving me the same error on all commands.
[08:50] <Stargazers> wsjunior: xinit -display :1
[08:50] <Stargazers> Or that but different disp number?
[08:50] <wsjunior> clear
[08:51] <phr34ck> any ideas people ?
[08:51] <Stargazers> What is the error, then?
[08:52] <phr34ck> each time I use sudo I get this: sudo timestamp too far in the future.
[08:52] <sarge125> freeze, what do u have wins support set to yes or no?
[08:52] <AlexC_> Hey hey,
[08:52] <winx> hello
[08:52] <winx> im bored
[08:52] <AlexC_> Is it possible to Theme Motif? I have this Motif app and ... well, Motif is horrible to look at
[08:52] <HymnToLife> phr34ck, do   sudo-K
[08:53] <HymnToLife> sudo -K*
[08:53] <HymnToLife> to reset the timestamp
[08:53] <freeze> i am having a problem with my DVD drive it will not open my dvd cd  it says volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted... can any1 assist?
[08:53] <Stargazers> phr34ck: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=173505
[08:53] <freeze> sarge125, do you run wins?
[08:53] <Stargazers> Is there any help?
[08:53] <freeze> like i said
[08:53] <winx> whats da point of x-chat
[08:53] <phr34ck> Kay, thanks.
[08:53] <m0> hello, on the ubuntu wiki it says i need the ndiswraper and the bcmwl5a.inf, where doo I find bcmwl5a.inf?
[08:53] <freeze> sarge125, remove everything from ur file that you see in smb.conf delete the whole dam thing
[08:53] <phr34ck> Can't, same error.
[08:53] <freeze> sarge125, and then edit it with the way i did it
[08:53] <sarge125> ok
[08:54] <kitche> m0: from your windows driver cd
[08:54] <Stargazers> phr34ck: I meant, there was many different ways?
[08:54] <kitche> m0: even though bcm43xx should work out of the box unless you have a newer broadcom
[08:54] <phr34ck> The page is taking forever to load.
[08:54] <phr34ck> Give me quick way, please.
[08:55] <Stargazers> phr34ck: sudo -K
[08:55] <Stargazers> sudo -k
[08:55] <Stargazers> Clears the timestamp at least they said in forum.
[08:55] <freeze> i am having a problem with my DVD drive it will not open my dvd cd  it says volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted... can any1 assist?
[08:55] <Stargazers> I haven't tested it ^^
[08:55] <Siv0x> Anyone know how to get sound in CS:S with WINE, my problem is that i'm not getting sound through cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp ?
[08:55] <TooR4u> interrupt said that there is a .swf decompiler for linux .... is it exists?
[08:55] <m0> kitche: lets see just installed ndiswrapper lets see if my wireless wont have hard time connecting
[08:56] <m0> restarting ...
[08:56] <Stargazers> phr34ck: Does that help?
[08:56] <Crashzor> Siv0x, killall artsd & killall esd
[08:56] <olsen> Siv0x: errr, do you get sound doing cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp?
[08:56] <Siv0x> olsen: none at all. and no errors
[08:56] <phr34ck> damn it
[08:56] <Siv0x> Crashzor, i've tried that.
[08:56] <olsen> Siv0x: what about cat /dev/dsp ?
[08:57] <Skiz> why the hell do I always end up in the channel for no apparent reason?
[08:57] <Crashzor> olsen, that wil not give sound :P
[08:57] <Stargazers> phr34ck: Nope?
[08:57] <phr34ck> Stargazers,  I'm afraid not.
[08:57] <Siv0x> olsen: yes, i get sound from "cat /dev/dsp"
[08:57] <olsen> Crashzor: sure, but it will give you some output if you have the module loaded.
[08:57] <kitche> olsen: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp is bad it can kill some onboard sound
[08:57] <Stargazers> :(
[08:57] <olsen> Crashzor: if you dont have the module you will get some error
[08:57] <Stargazers> Welll. Let me see.
[08:58] <Crashzor> olsen, you can also just check is /dev/dsp is there :P
[08:58] <olsen> Crashzor: yeah
[08:58] <Stargazers> phr34ck: 1. Check the timestamp sudo reports (will look something like below). / 2. Use Adjust Date & Time to set the date/time to the sudo timestamp or later. / 3. Execute the 'sudo -k' command. (Clears the timestamp). / 4. Use Adjust Date & Time to set the date/time back to the correct values.
[08:58] <Stargazers> That?
[08:58] <olsen> Siv0x: you get sound by doing cat /dev/dsp ???? wtf?
[08:59] <phr34ck> let me do it now
[08:59] <Stargazers> phr34ck: Ok.
[08:59] <Siv0x> Crashzor: on CS:S under audio options, on the speaker configuration menu, its blank, i switched it to "headphones" but when i open and close the game its back to blank.
[08:59] <Siv0x> olsen: i mean i hear sound when i get that...
[08:59] <olsen> kitche: really? never killed a card on mine
[08:59] <Siv0x> olsen: type*
[08:59] <aeon> hello all
[08:59] <olsen> kitche: i tried that in almost all the cards supported by the kernel and never did anything
[08:59] <Crashzor> Siv0x, i never played cs:s only 1.6
[09:00] <Siv0x> Crashzor: ah ic. well thats the same diff. hrmm
[09:00] <Crashzor> Siv0x, can you get sound at all ?
[09:00] <Crashzor> xmms or sameting
[09:00] <Siv0x> Crashzor: yes i get sound, but none in game.
[09:00] <olsen> Siv0x: weird, you should only get some output characters...
[09:00] <phr34ck> Okay I have done it
[09:00] <phr34ck> now I change it back ?
[09:01] <Siv0x> olsen: when i type that i hear beeping.
[09:01] <Stargazers> phr34ck: Yep?
[09:01] <Stargazers> And test.
[09:01] <olsen> Siv0x: beep from the speaker in your internal computer?
[09:01] <Siv0x> olsen, also: sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/dsp bs=1024 count=2 tells me it worked, but i dont hear anything.
[09:01] <phr34ck> Worked, thanks.
[09:01] <phr34ck> but I still don't know how to use apt-get to download packages, it's not working
[09:01] <Stargazers> Np.
[09:01] <Siv0x> olsen: no beep from my speaker.
[09:02] <Cypher> 7 hour to new yeard night
[09:02] <Stargazers> phr34ck: What it says?
[09:02] <phr34ck> I wrote this: sudo apt-get install wine and I got this error : Package wine has no installation candidate.
[09:02] <olsen> Siv0x: what does lspci | grep audio says?
[09:02] <Stargazers> phr34ck: You have to add reposity for wine in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:03] <Siv0x> 00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
[09:03] <Siv0x> 03:03.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
[09:03] <familia> hi
[09:03] <phr34ck> how do I do that?
[09:03] <Stargazers> phr34ck: Propably there is many lines with # in the beginning of it.
[09:03] <Stargazers> phr34ck: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:03] <Stargazers> There is lines what might start # deb or/and # deb-src
[09:03] <olsen> Siv0x: that should work with the emu2k1 module or something.
[09:03] <Stargazers> Take the # (comment char) off in the beggining of the line.
[09:04] <Siv0x> olsen: huh?
[09:04] <Stargazers> Those lines only what start with # deb or/and # deb-src
[09:04] <Stargazers> Then Ctrl + o to save.
[09:04] <Stargazers> And sudo apt-get update in shell.
[09:04] <Stargazers> Then try again.
[09:04] <phr34ck> there are only 2, which are dapper-backports.
[09:04] <phr34ck> I do those 2?
[09:04] <olsen> Siv0x: better ask in #alsa if that card is supported by them.
[09:04] <Stargazers> Well... Nope.
[09:04] <gameover> hi
[09:05] <olsen> Siv0x: im sure it is
[09:05] <Stargazers> You have to add reposity for wine.
[09:05] <familia> xboard requires the X Window System header files and libraries!
[09:05] <Stargazers> Hmm.
[09:05] <gameover> i need help to config my wireless
[09:05] <familia> What libraries?
[09:05] <freeze> gameover: wats wrong with ur wireless
[09:05] <drivera90> Hm. Does anyone here use VisualBoy Advance?
[09:05] <Stargazers> phr34ck: Dapper or Edgy or what?
[09:05] <Siv0x> olsen: the card that i am using is audigy 2 zs. my sound is perfect all except in cs:s
[09:05] <olsen> Siv0x: is your mixer unmuted?
[09:05] <gameover> thanks... well
[09:05] <olsen> Siv0x: oh, better say that.
[09:05] <olsen> Siv0x: then is a wine configuration problem
[09:05] <familia> Siv0x, configure you sound card with alsaconf
[09:05] <familia> ^
[09:05] <Stargazers> phr34ck: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[09:06] <gameover> its a build in card in my laptop, it reconize it as eth1
[09:06] <j0sh0> hi, could somebody please give me a hand configuring xorg server? I could display 1024x768 resolution with winxp but can't get xserver/gnome to allow this resolution. I've tried reconfiguring xserver but nothing seems to help. I'm pretty sure it's an intel i810 chipset with a 15" LCD.... any ideas anyone?
[09:06] <gameover> but it doesnt connect
[09:06] <freeze> gameover: did you activate it?
[09:06] <olsen> Siv0x: you need to change something in ~/.wine/config, in the sound part. i don't use wine, so try in #winehq
[09:06] <gameover> how?
[09:06] <phr34ck> Stargazers,  could you help me out in installing stuff? I already downloaded .tar.gz files "Firefox, and gcc" but I don't know how to install them
[09:06] <familia> j0sh0, editor /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:06] <familia> change 1024x800
[09:06] <familia> =P
[09:07] <freeze> goto system>administrator>networking
[09:07] <Stargazers> phr34ck: Why you install using .tar.gz?
[09:07] <Stargazers> You can download them in apt-get when you make that work?
[09:07] <fmachado> !xorg
[09:07] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:07] <phr34ck> That's how I found them on their website.
[09:07] <familia> good
[09:07] <familia> thanks
[09:07] <phr34ck> so I unzipped them, and then what?
[09:07] <phr34ck> how can I use them?
[09:07] <Stargazers> phr34ck: You have to compile them.
[09:07] <Stargazers> Mut compile gcc?
[09:08] <freeze> gameover: you get that?
[09:08] <gameover> 4freeze?
[09:08] <Siv0x> olsen: they told me to get ALSAs OSS Emulater setup, and to test cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp - when i got sound from that, then to make sure i have OSS and Driver Emulater Checked in winecfg.
[09:08] <freeze> gameover: goto system>administrator>networking
[09:08] <gameover> done
[09:09] <phr34ck> what ?
[09:09] <familia> Siv0x, The emulador cedega is better than wine
[09:09] <Stargazers> phr34ck: GCC is a compiler. Why you download that source?
[09:09] <gameover> enable connection.. fill the the essid
[09:09] <Siv0x> familia: yes i know but doesnt it cost money?
[09:09] <freeze> gameover: ok so now look for your ssid
[09:09] <Stargazers> phr34ck: Where you read that you need to downlod gcc as .tar.gz?
[09:09] <freeze> gameover: do u know what exactly ur ssid is?
[09:09] <phr34ck> I'm a computer science student, I need the compiler.
[09:10] <gameover> it doesnt appear..
[09:10] <phr34ck> I didn't find anything else.
[09:10] <Stargazers> phr34ck: But in Ubuntu you have it already?
[09:10] <familia> Siv0x, no it is freeware, the problem is search it =/
[09:10] <Stargazers> Test can you run "gcc"
[09:10] <gameover> when a i run a iwlist eth1 scan, it doesnt detect anything...
[09:10] <phr34ck> I tried gcc, it never worked.
[09:10] <kitche> phr34ck: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:10] <rchf> anyone know where to get 'aticonfig'?
[09:10] <freeze> gameover: try manually puttin in ur ssid
[09:10] <phr34ck> I need something decent, not a walk in the park compiler.
[09:10] <aeon> hi all again
[09:10] <Siv0x> familia: you think that my problem might be wine and not ALSA?
[09:10] <freeze> gameover: the signal could be weak
[09:10] <gameover> when i run manually set the ssid, it says network is down
[09:11] <aeon> can someone please help me
[09:11] <MasterShrek> whats up aeon ?
[09:11] <familia> Siv0x, maybe, my english is more worse
[09:11] <Stargazers> phr34ck: What you mean?
[09:11] <aeon> I'm trying to boot up the Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Live CD, but it hangs on Configuring Some Drivers and stays like that.
[09:11] <freeze> gameover: is the network down?
[09:11] <Siv0x> familia: huh?
[09:11] <MasterShrek> aeon, did u check the cd for defects?
[09:11] <aeon> yes
[09:12] <familia> aeon, change cd
[09:12] <aeon> on other linux's it boots then the screen goes black and thats it
[09:12] <aeon> yes i tryed tons of other cd's
[09:12] <m0> hello, when I view any folder as a List instead of Icons, I see nothing. When I view them as icons I see all the folders and files. What is the reason that caused that?
[09:12] <m0> I upgraded from dapper to edgy
[09:12] <gameover> it says so...
[09:12] <sivaji_2009> tell  me how to convert .tar.bz2 package to executable package
[09:13] <Gray_Auk> Howdy
[09:13] <freeze> gameover: go check the wireless connection make sure you AP is active
[09:13] <enyc> sivaji_2009: well depends what ins in the .tar.bz2
[09:13] <enyc> sivaji_2009: you might have a source code archive ??
[09:13] <gameover> its active... im connected on this machine
[09:13] <aeon> iv tryd everything now and really want to get ubuntu up and running
[09:13] <freeze> i need assistance with a dam DVD drive any1 help?
[09:13] <phr34ck> so how can I compile the gcc that I downloaded ?
[09:13] <bulmer> sivaji_2009: you need to untar it with -j option and see if its an executable
[09:13] <freeze> gameover: hhrrmmm is this card built in or did u put it in
[09:14] <gameover> build in...
[09:14] <gameover> do i need ndiswrapper?
[09:14] <sivaji_2009> i am downloading kaffeine now in this format
[09:14] <aeon> my cpu is AMD athlob 64 3800+
[09:14] <freeze> gameover: that basically just gets the ndis drivers
[09:14] <t1000> does someone know how to burn  a dvd-video with kb3?
[09:14] <aeon> gfx : nvidia xfx geforce 6600 gt
[09:15] <aeon> mobo : asus a8n-sli se
[09:15] <enyc> sivaji_2009: hrrm kaffiene... you can just install the 'kaffeine' package!
[09:15] <j0sh0> how do you enable the "universe repository" through the command line please?
[09:15] <Music_Shuffle> aeon, if it hangs at drivers, have you tried other peripherals?
[09:15] <freeze> gameover: if its being detected it shouldnt need the drivers
[09:15] <MasterShrek> j0sh0 edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the repos you want
[09:15] <freeze> gameover: no wireless networks showup at all?>4
[09:15] <Asc> m0, I have no idea, but if it persists you might try using a different file browser.  Thunar and pcmanfm are two that come to mind.
[09:15] <gameover> none
[09:16] <j0sh0> thanks mastershrek!
[09:16] <aeon> can anyone help please:(
[09:16] <sivaji_2009> yes i already have that but it is old version doesnt supports mpeg4 , avi , .wmv
[09:16] <Music_Shuffle> aeon, if it hangs at drivers, have you tried other peripherals?
[09:16] <cyphase> What filesystem do you use?
[09:16] <Gray_Auk> t1000, what packages do you have to burn DVDs?  ( acidrip is a common one)
[09:16] <m0> Asc: why not use the default one with ubuntu
[09:16] <aeon> peripherals?? yes didferent ones
[09:17] <freeze> gameover: try lookin for the drivers for it that could be an issue... also make sure the device is turned on on ur computer
[09:17] <freeze> gameover: is it a laptop?
[09:17] <gameover> yes
[09:17] <Music_Shuffle> aeon, you've tried diff. mice/keyboards/monitor, etc?
[09:17] <Music_Shuffle> If so, then I'm outa ideas too. :X
[09:17] <freeze> gameover: make sure the switch is on physically on the laptopn
[09:17] <aeon> yes
[09:17] <TooR4u> interrupt said that there is a .swf decompiler for linux .... is it exists?
[09:17] <freeze> gameover: and then reactivate it
[09:17] <TooR4u> is there any .swf decompiler for linux?
[09:17] <Asc> m0: because you said it's not working
[09:18] <t1000> gray_auk is it possible too use k3b
[09:18] <aeon> when i run other linux's it starts up and then the screen goes black, but i can hear it starting up ok and stuff
[09:18] <enyc> t1000: hrrm k3b... erm I knwow you can create dvd images ... ive not tried brruning them mysely.. i thought k3b can do that
[09:18] <gameover> ok
[09:18] <m0> how do I reinstall the current filebrowser?
[09:18] <VerdRousseau> which should I get for my laptop ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:19] <bruenig> m0, sudo aptitude reinstall nautilus
[09:19] <bruenig> VerdRousseau, that is a preference thing, which do you prefer gnome or kde
[09:19] <Asc> m0: Go to synaptic, find nautilus, and mark it for reinstallation
[09:19] <bruenig> !best
[09:19] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[09:19] <t1000> iso woks fine but how do I brun vob,bup, ifo?
[09:19] <j0sh0> could someone please tell me why sometimes when I try to do apt-get update or install, it says the archive IP is 1.0.0.0 and sits there and times out, whereas other times it accesses it straight away???
[09:19] <freeze> gameover: hows it going now?
[09:20] <bruenig> t1000, you have a dvd file structure? with the VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS and all that good stuff?
[09:20] <VerdRousseau> Well like them both but was wondering which apps such as the wireless configs are best for laptop?
[09:20] <m0> Thx bruenig and Asc
[09:20] <wireless_prob> hey guys
[09:20] <t1000> yep
[09:20] <wireless_prob> quick newb question
[09:20] <enyc> wireless_prob: wonder if you are going to ask about wlan adapters!
[09:20] <wireless_prob> how do I get the updated kernel headers and source for my ubuntu
[09:20] <freeze> wireless_prob: issue?
[09:20] <m0> I still can't view the files if in LIST mode. Only in ICON mode :(
[09:20] <bruenig> t1000, run this to make an iso, mkisofs -dvd-video -o whatever.iso whatever/
[09:20] <wireless_prob> enyc, well, right now I am side stepping my biggest issue
[09:21] <bruenig> t1000, the whatever/ is the directory that contains the AUDIO VIDEO TS
[09:21] <enyc> wireless_prob: hrrm well are you on edgy system?
[09:21] <Asc> quick reinstallation.
[09:21] <Gray_Auk> t1000:  .. yes, install :  sudo apt-get install acidrip   Then you will have: Applications->  Sound And Video-> Acidrip
[09:21] <wireless_prob> 6.10
[09:21] <freeze> wireless_prob: whats the big issue
[09:21] <enyc> wireless_prob: 6.10 = edgy [ok] 
[09:21] <bruenig> t1000, from there just burn the iso in gnomebaker or k3b or whatever else you got
[09:21] <t1000>  ok thanx
[09:21] <wireless_prob> enyc, my biggest issue is my wireless adapter
[09:21] <enyc> wireless_prob: you can probably use the kernel package from feisty at the moment... but I dont know...  elso you can compile your own kernel ;-)
[09:22] <aeon> Music_Shuffle brb im going to try and plug in a different mouse in and see if it changes anything brb
[09:22] <wireless_prob> I just wanted to install java, but when it asks where they are, I guess they are not in the default directory
[09:22] <gameover> nop
[09:22] <enyc> wireless_prob: there are many nasty wlan adapters that are a problem... and many that are nicely supported without binary-dirvers / ndiswrapper  ... it just depends on the chipset of the card
[09:22] <gameover> it doesnt work
[09:23] <Music_Shuffle> kk
[09:23] <freeze> gameover: run the ndiswrapper then
[09:23] <j0sh0> any ideas as to why the repositories IP is sometimes resolved as 1.0.0.0 and obviously wont update/install, but other times it resolves their correct IP address and installs a package fine?
[09:23] <m0> I still can't view the files if in LIST mode. Only in ICON mode :(
[09:23] <enyc> j0sh0: hrrm  which repository ?
[09:23] <gameover> ok
[09:23] <m0> any reason why
[09:23] <j0sh0> all of them
[09:24] <wireless_prob> enyc, with my wireless adapter, I have the drivers installed with ndiswrapper, and I can get the lights to come on, the connection says its 100% but the router does not see the connection, and I cannot access anything
[09:24] <enyc> j0sh0: j0sh0 hrrm sounds like dns server being silly ?
[09:24] <enyc> wireless_prob: not heard of that before but i dont use wlan ;-)   im still on a bit of 10base2 on an NE2000-clone on this machine!
[09:25] <wireless_prob> enyc, ok
[09:25] <j0sh0> could be... I am accessing the net through a wireless router, which is also the nameserver in resolv.conf...
[09:25] <wireless_prob> enyc, where are the kernel headers stored in ubuntu?
[09:25] <enyc> j0sh0: hrrm well i can give you access to another nameserver to test with if you like... or you can try to point to isp-nameserver....
[09:26] <enyc> wireless_prob: erm i think the generic headres whatnot are in /usr/include/linux iirc
[09:26] <kitche> wireless_prob: /usr/include/linux
[09:26] <j0sh0> just put the isp's dns server in resolv.conf?
[09:26] <wireless_prob> enyc, thanks
[09:26] <Gray_Auk> not an "expert" .. BUT after your computer is up, have you reset'restarted your wireless hub/server?  (have had a problem similar to that myself: where the router/server would not recognise the new computer)
[09:26] <Rprp``> Hmm, i have installed ubuntu on my laptop, but its very slow..... i typed 'lspci' but after 'Ati Video Controller' i see 'Unknown Device' someone ideas?
[09:27] <B1ackHawk> hey im trying to install ubuntu, but every disc i burn, fails some checksum or just doesn't work, unable to read boot disk or something like that, anyone have any idea how to go about installing?
[09:27] <B1ackHawk> sorry to interrupt
[09:28] <enyc> B1ackHawk: hrrm well how are you writing the cds ?
[09:28] <B1ackHawk> alchohol
[09:28] <B1ackHawk> burning the ISO
[09:28] <enyc> B1ackHawk: maybe the driwve you are reading them in does not get along with CD-Rs you are using (this often happens with older cdrom drives)
[09:29] <enyc> B1ackHawk: well you need to a bit of elimination here... try reading the cd in different computers etc.
[09:29] <enyc> B1ackHawk: iirc ubunt has a test-cd option otn boot-cd normally
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> yep
[09:29] <B1ackHawk> ok, is there a way to wispering here? like, 1o1 talk?
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> "Check CD integrity"
[09:29] <Asc> Hey, I heard tell that you can use multiple monitors if you have multiple video cards (say, with one video output each).  Any truth to that?
[09:29] <roze> Im running the livecd with a projector using the vesa driver, but it refuses to go higher than 800x600 stating no modes  exist for the given screen. what do I do_
[09:29] <B1ackHawk> yea i did that, failed checksum
[09:29] <roze> ?
[09:29] <enyc> B1ackHawk: no idea
[09:30] <enyc> roze: hrrrm get the right driver ;-)
[09:30] <kitche> B1ackHawk: yes you need to be registered with nickserv though
[09:30] <B1ackHawk> you need a newer video card with capabilities
[09:30] <roze> enyc: nv gets me garbage and nvidia vinary dont load
[09:30] <B1ackHawk> ah
[09:30] <bulmer> default for live cd is only 800x600
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> Asc: It can be done, but I don't know how.
[09:30] <B1ackHawk> so if i do the test, and it fails then the cds no good period right?
[09:30] <roze> bulmer: I neddto change it to 1024x768 or higher
[09:31] <Asc> Hmm.  Maybe I'll have to try to finally get that card working
[09:31] <bulmer> you cant unless you change the default settings and then re-burn a new cdrom
[09:31] <roze> is there even a standard vesa mode for 1024x768?
[09:31] <roze> bulmer: thats.. not true. iu can change the xorg.conf and restart and it  _do_ make a differencE?
[09:32] <AidanL> Hi. I was wondering if anyone could possibly help me on a small problem I am having when I am trying to start Ubuntu from the CD I have burned.
[09:32] <bulmer> i dont think so, its xga whenyou get to that resolution
[09:32] <roze> bulmer: ok, thanks
[09:32] <B1ackHawk> aidan, is it failing to read the boot disk?
[09:32] <bulmer> roze: and how are you suppose to make that change in the burnt cdrom?
[09:33] <Siv0x> Crashzor: you still there?
[09:33] <Rprp``> Someone ieas?
[09:33] <Crashzor> half playing ksolitar
[09:33] <Rprp``> Hmm, i have installed ubuntu on my laptop, but its very slow..... i typed 'lspci' but after 'Ati Video Controller' i see 'Unknown Device' someone ideas?
[09:33] <AidanL> No, what is happening is, is that the bar is freezing when it gets to a certain point when trying to load. It is a bit difficult to explain. I do have a picture of it if you would like to view it to get a bettre idea of the problem?
[09:33] <B1ackHawk> im having a similar prblm
[09:33] <AidanL> I see.
[09:34] <Siv0x> Crahzor: lol i think my problem might be in cs.. for Captions box in audio options what should i select?
[09:34] <B1ackHawk> its beginning to get to me...
[09:34] <AidanL> It is the bar which appears underneath the logo.
[09:34] <margs> can anyone tell me how to enable dri on intel 915
[09:34] <cyphase> What's the best filesystem for day-to-day desktop use?
[09:34] <Siv0x> Crashzor: also, when i select headphones in the options.. and close the game and reopen it, it goes blank again.
[09:35] <bulmer> do you guys set the video to low rez and see if the install would go through?
[09:35] <robtp> cyphase: keep it simple and use ext3
[09:35] <Crashzor> Siv0x, look in the wine app db
[09:35] <aeon> im bk
[09:35] <robtp> margs: i think it is, by default, but i could be wrong
[09:35] <robtp> margs: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep dri
[09:35] <B1ackHawk> wats the next best starting linux distro?
[09:35] <Siv0x> Crashzor: wine app db?
[09:35] <cyphase> robtp: right now i'm on reiserfs. why should i switch?
[09:35] <Siv0x> Crashzor: you mean winecfg?
[09:35] <kitche> B1ackHawk: maybe fedora
[09:35] <B1ackHawk> cause my comp apparently wont take the cd
[09:35] <Crashzor> Siv0x, you're running under wine right ?
[09:35] <bulmer> B1ackHawk: am partial to SuSE :)
[09:36] <Siv0x> Crashzor: yes.
[09:36] <Crashzor> there is a appilaction database on there page
[09:36] <AidanL> B1ackhawk - I have now used 2 CD's and no difference. I have done a MD5 sums check on it and its fine.
[09:36] <B1ackHawk> should i use fedora core 5?
[09:36] <robtp> cyphase: if reisers fine for you, theres not too much of a reason to dispurt anything, reiser always worked fine when i used it
[09:36] <hackel> For some reason on my laptop, some process keeps re-activating my display, even after I've disabled it (with e.g. xset dpms force off, or when the screensaver shuts it off).  Anyone know why this might happen?
[09:36] <Siv0x> Crashzor: i'll look there.
[09:36] <Flannel> AidanL: did you burn at 4x?
[09:36] <Rprp``> Hmm, i have installed ubuntu on my laptop, but its very slow..... i typed 'lspci' but after 'Ati Video Controller' i see 'Unknown Device' someone ideas?
[09:36] <cyphase> robtp: i see.. i was just wondering if maybe all this time i've been using the wrong fs :P
[09:36] <robtp> cyphase: ubuntu defauts to ext3 because its stable and performs reasonably
[09:36] <aeon> Music_Shuffle : i tryd it with a different mouse and it still gives me the same problem
[09:36] <B1ackHawk> ive done checks on mine all failed checksum
[09:36] <AidanL> I did one at 52x and one at 1x
[09:36] <Flannel> B1ackHawk: burn at 4x
[09:36] <Music_Shuffle> No idea then. =/
[09:36] <robtp> cyphase: reiser's perfectly fine as far as i know
[09:37] <bulmer> Rprp: umm what is slow?
[09:37] <Rprp``> Err, everything
[09:37] <B1ackHawk> so i should be burning at 4x?
[09:37] <bulmer> like what?
[09:37] <aeon> :'(
[09:37] <Rprp``> Desktop
[09:37] <B1ackHawk> oh ok i see someone already told me
[09:37] <margs> well im on edgy
[09:37] <margs>  Load    "dri"
[09:37] <margs>         option          "dri"   "true"
[09:37] <Rprp``> And i see 'slow' screens, i think i mis my video card drivers.
[09:37] <AidanL> Flannel, should I also try 4x? although I thought with 1x it should make no difference with 4x should it?
[09:37] <aeon> i really want to get linux up and running and get rid of microsoft
[09:37] <B1ackHawk> no!
[09:38] <cesar_> hello again
[09:38] <cesar_> folks
[09:38] <B1ackHawk> keep microsoft
[09:38] <Flannel> AidanL: 1x should do the same as 4x, just slower.  So, that burn should be good.  Did you verify the CD using the CD check thing on the CD? (that's a lot of CDs)
[09:38] <Rprp``> After  Ati Video Constroller i see ' Unknown device4975'
[09:38] <cesar_> do not mention microsoft here
[09:38] <B1ackHawk> lol, just dont use it most of the time, keep a small partition
[09:38] <cesar_> pls
[09:38] <cesar_> unless you wanted me to quit
[09:39] <aeon> :)
[09:39] <bulmer> Rprp: just curious which laptop brand you have and which processor?
[09:39] <AidanL> No, I don't think I verifyed it... I will try that.
[09:39] <B1ackHawk> so is there a write method i should be using?
[09:39] <Rprp``> HP Compaq nx6325
[09:39] <Rprp``> But its a enw one.
[09:39] <Rprp``> New*
[09:39] <kaur> gnome power manager seems to think that my laptop is running on AC even when it is actually running on batteries. It even "forgets" to add the battery section to the configuration window. Reinstalling the gnome power manager helps, but after reboot, the problem is back. What to do?
[09:39] <bulmer> that has ATI video chips you said?
[09:40] <cesar_> I got Ubuntu to show Microboftring I hate it
[09:40] <aeon> Music_Shuffle : maybe its my CD/DVD drive thats giving me problems
[09:40] <AidanL> I will do that after I have tested an older version of Ubuntu which I got in a magazine CD. That worked for me last time.
[09:40] <Music_Shuffle> Maybe
[09:40] <Rprp``> bulmer, yes
[09:40] <B1ackHawk> DAO/SAO   RAW SAO + SUB  RAW SAO    or   RAW DAO?
[09:40] <AidanL> Ill be back soon.
[09:40] <Rprp``> Its onboard... my ati video thingie
[09:40] <aeon> is there a way i can find out?
[09:40] <aeon> mine is HP dvd640
[09:41] <bulmer> Rprp: you installed it with the low resolution and modified xorg.conf?
[09:41] <chris^> #ich.feier.sylvester.im.irc
[09:41] <chris^> #ich.feier.sylvester.im.irc
[09:41] <Rprp``> bulmer, http://rafb.net/p/wusNiQ11.html
[09:42] <Rprp``> Err, dunno. i didnt modified xorg.xonf
[09:42] <Rprp``> xorg.conf*
[09:43] <bulmer> thats after the install
[09:43] <bulmer> you can take a look at it  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:44] <B1ackHawk> so i told alcohol to burn at 4X...and its burning 12X?
[09:45] <Rprp``> ol.....
[09:45] <Rprp``> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf takes ages before its opened 0_o
[09:45] <Rprp``> +- 30 seconds :/
[09:45] <bulmer> go to the console and edit it there
[09:45] <timo901> !mount
[09:45] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:46] <Rprp``> its openeded now
[09:46] <Rprp``> but what d i need to change? :p;
[09:46] <timo901> !fstab
[09:46] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:46] <Dralid> I'm using GRUB to dual boot between Ubuntu and WindowsXP (required for work :( ), Ubuntu expects the time to be set to GMT, and Windows uses local. How can I get them to agree on the time, or adjust automatically on boot?
[09:46] <bulmer> look for your video card and see what driver it uses
[09:47] <Rprp``> 	Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon Xpress 200M (RS482)"
[09:47] <Rprp``> 	Driver		"ati"
[09:47] <Rprp``> THat one?
[09:47] <Flannel> Dralid: set your hardware to local time, and there's an option for that in the timezone settings in linux
[09:47] <Dralid> okay, thanks!
[09:48] <familia> hi my friends xP
[09:48] <familia> :D
[09:48] <familia> :)
[09:48] <familia> :(
[09:49] <Rprp``> bulmer, ?
[09:49] <shadowhywind> anyone around that could help me setup my microphone?
[09:49] <Flannel> !offtopic | familia
[09:49] <ubotu> familia: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:49] <familia> shadowhywind, you card sound is configured?
[09:50] <margs> how do i enable dri on intel 915
[09:50] <margs> i have intel 810 driver installed
[09:50] <shadowhywind> to my knowledge it is, configured alsa driver,libs, utils and can hear music from amork and other programs
[09:50] <familia> shadowhywind,  When you install you sound card the phone is configured
[09:51] <shadowhywind> well thats the thing, everything seams to be working, I have Mic Bypass and Capture *bith lit* and fully on, and i still don't get anything from the mic
[09:53] <minerale> How can I delete a package and all it's config files as well?
[09:53] <familia> shadowhywind, sorry my english is worse
[09:53] <familia> :P
[09:53] <minerale> (using apt-get )
[09:53] <familia> apt-remove
[09:53] <familia> =P
[09:53] <familia> apt-get remove
[09:53] <familia> apt-get remove package
[09:53] <AidanL> Flannel - With a previous Ubuntu Live CD (5.1!) which used to work it failed this time due to some graphical error. Although last time I used it, it did work.
[09:54] <familia> AidanL, humm
[09:54] <Flannel> minerale: apt-get remove --purge [package]  will remove config files as well, in synaptic, it's "complete removal"
[09:54] <familia> AidanL, go in xorg.conf and look the configure
[09:54] <AidanL> I can't start ubuntu
[09:55] <familia> AidanL,  no start in console mode?
[09:55] <AidanL> I am trying to get my 6.1 CD working. It just freezes towards the end of the loading bar after I have clicked Start/Install Ubuntu
[09:55] <AidanL> I do have a picture if you are interested in seeing what I am on about.
[09:56] <Flannel> AidanL: try grabbing the Alternate CD, and installing that way.  It doesn't count on a GUI, so it should install fine (remember to still verify the md5, and burn at 4x)
[09:56] <familia> yes
[09:56] <leexgx> hmm system monitor is not seeing second cpu
[09:56] <AidanL> The alternate CD is of Ubunutu 5.1 but an error did occur when trying to start that Live CD...
[09:57] <AidanL> And the error was to do with a graphic something or other. I can't remember exactly...
[09:57] <familia> humm you want enter in live cd of ubuntu for access you ubuntu 6.1 in partition for resolve the problem?
[09:57] <familia> humm you want enter in live cd of ubuntu for access your ubuntu 6.1 in partition for resolve the problem?
[09:58] <AidanL> Well I just tryed to see if the 5.1 CD would load.
[09:58] <AidanL> It used to, I install 5.1 via that one a few months ago although ended up having to uninstall Ubuntu as my old wireless adaptor wasn't supported.
[09:58] <leexgx> AidanL, other option is install 6.06 then do an upgrade to 6.10
[09:58] <familia> yes
[09:59] <AidanL> I could do that yeah. I may have a go at that then. See if that works.
[09:59] <AidanL> I am actually burning another CD so I will see how that goes, if it still does the same then I will download 6.06.
[09:59] <AidanL> When Flannel said about verifying the MD5 was it via the program stated on the Ubuntu site? If so I have already done that and it is fine.
[10:00] <bulmer> Rprp: i was out in the kitchen....yes thats the one...ati but I use "nv" on mine for an ati card
[10:01] <Flannel> AidanL: er, you download the iso, then create a md5 of the iso on your computer, and check it against the one on the website.
[10:02] <AidanL> Yeah I have done that.
[10:02] <AidanL> This is what you mean isn't it? - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[10:03] <leexgx> AidanL, do you have the alt  disk ?
[10:03] <Flannel> AidanL: right, then you know that the iso wasn't corrupted during download
[10:03] <leexgx> 6.10
[10:03] <baianinho> its viados
[10:03] <leexgx> ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso <
[10:03] <AidanL> No I fo not have the alt disc. All I have is a 6.1 CD. Well two of them.
[10:03] <AidanL> No I do not have that.
[10:04] <AidanL> I will try downloading that.
[10:04] <leexgx> that one will install with out live mode
[10:04] <BHSPitMonkey> heh
[10:04] <baianinho> I am Brazilian
[10:04] <peija-kax> text mode installer is better imho...less problems
[10:04] <BHSPitMonkey> software versions aren't decimals... you can't drop trailing zeros :P
[10:05] <AidanL> Where abouts can I find the alt download. I was looking at it a minute ago but can't find it lol.
[10:05] <leexgx> :)
[10:05] <bsdlogical> BHSPitMonkey, yea, 3 significant figures
[10:05] <peija-kax> AidanL its there on ubuntus page
[10:05] <BHSPitMonkey> eww, sig figs
[10:05] <peija-kax> scroll down
[10:05] <bsdlogical> yes :)
[10:05] <AidanL> I found it now:)
[10:06] <leexgx> ok
[10:06] <bp0> how do i change the default for the boot menu?
[10:06] <RazorJack> Hey Guys, using edgy 6.10 with Nvidia Geforce 3 hooked ONLY to svideo cable to my tv, used the tutorials for setting up proprietary nvidia drivers, however I only get screen flicker and a message in Xorg.93.log saying, "The requested configuration of display devices is not supported"
[10:06] <RazorJack> Any ideas?
[10:07] <leexgx> i find the 6.05 is alot easy to download then 6.10 is (fancy pop out menus)
[10:07] <leexgx> 6.06
[10:07] <BHSPitMonkey> RazorJack, you have nvtv?
[10:07] <RazorJack> BHSPitMonkey, yup!
[10:07] <RazorJack> and nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common stuff
[10:07] <BHSPitMonkey> leexgx, what do you mean by that
[10:08] <BHSPitMonkey> leexgx, you download them both the same way
[10:08] <leexgx> nope
[10:08] <RazorJack> leexgx, I didnt like 6.06, and it never liked me.
[10:08] <BHSPitMonkey> via bittorrent or ftp
[10:08] <leexgx> pn the download page its pop outs for 6.10
[10:08] <leexgx> in
[10:08] <leexgx> at the 6.06 one its just an big list
[10:09] <RazorJack> BHSPitMonkey, there another repository for beta nvidia? it gives a 404
[10:09] <leexgx> thats alot easyer to find an fast mirror
[10:09] <g0dchild_> is it possible to play 3gp with mplayer?
[10:09] <RazorJack> (talking about the one listed in ubuntuguide)
[10:09] <leexgx> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#currentrelease
[10:09] <BHSPitMonkey> leexgx, I only ever use the big list for both.
[10:09] <Asc> pb0: if you sudo open /boot/grub/*lst in your favorite text editor, you can change the default entry to be booted by making a line that reads 'default [number] '
[10:09] <BHSPitMonkey> I go to releases.ubuntu.com
[10:09] <BHSPitMonkey> or cdimage.ubuntu.com
[10:10] <con-man> if I installed wine from source, how do I remove i
[10:10] <con-man> t
[10:10] <drivera90> hm
[10:10] <Flannel> con-man: delete all the files
[10:10] <drivera90> i'm playing VisualBoy Advance right
[10:10] <RazorJack> con-man: rm -rf
[10:10] <drivera90> to run it i need to type "gvba" in the terminal
[10:10] <con-man> Flannel: there is not uninstall command
[10:10] <Asc> bp0*
[10:10] <drivera90> but if i close the terminal it exits too
[10:10] <drivera90> how can i run it without the terminal.
[10:10] <Flannel> con-man: unless wines makefile has a make uninstall or make remove, no.
[10:10] <leexgx> http://ftp.ticklers.org/releases.ubuntu.org/releases/6.06/ sever is very fast i get 500KB + from that one
[10:10] <fmachado> Li`lEndian, you need Real codecs.
[10:10] <ziro01> Hi
[10:10] <RazorJack> con-man: your better off compiling it to your own package, then installing the package.
[10:11] <Li`lEndian> oh crap. real codecs spells trouble. fmachado : are there any specific repos to do taht?
[10:11] <con-man> Flannel: I used this command
[10:11] <con-man> sudo dpkg -i wine*.deb
[10:11] <BHSPitMonkey> drivera90, Alt+F2
[10:11] <con-man> sudo dpkg -i wine*.deb
[10:11] <Li`lEndian> or do i have to download it from that wretched realone website?
[10:11] <con-man> sudo apt-get --build source wine
[10:12] <con-man> so if I did it that way I can just delete the folder?
[10:12] <konam> Someone here have installed reconstructor on dapper?
[10:12] <leexgx> it is an vmware box its running in but i think it did this after an update in ubuntu
[10:13] <leexgx> updated kernel not SMB turnd on by default ?
[10:13] <MasterShrek> leexgx its smp* and thats your problem
[10:13] <MasterShrek> its not enabled in the kernel
[10:13] <fmachado> Li`lEndian, sorry! Quicktime codecs!!!  ftp://ftp1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20061022.tar.bz2
[10:14] <fmachado> Li`lEndian, follow this README: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/README
[10:14] <leexgx> MasterShrek, but when i had 6.06 first installed it was listing 2 cpus
[10:14] <elyon> Could someone help me fix a fatal problem with Ubuntu?
[10:14] <Li`lEndian> fmachado: thanks.
[10:14] <MasterShrek> well im not running an ubuntu box right now, but check synaptic if theres any kernels with smp
[10:15] <MasterShrek> whats up elyon ?
[10:15] <joeamined> hi everyoe
[10:16] <joeamined> what are desktop advantages of ubuntu comparing to debian ?
[10:16] <MasterShrek> ubuntu is a modified version of debian, its much more user-friendly
[10:16] <e\ectro_> are there instructions for getting nvidia to work properly?  I installed the latest version  NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9746-pkg2.run, but X is giving me an error on the nvidia drivera90 " The NVIDIA kernel module does not appear to be receiving interrupts generated by the NVIDIA graphics device PCI:1:0:0."
[10:16] <elyon> MasterShrek - whenever I Logout, the system locks up and the video is really screwed up.
[10:17] <MasterShrek> what kind of video card elyon ?
[10:17] <drivera90> ?
[10:17] <drivera90> e\ectro_, what?
[10:17] <elyon> MasterShrek - ATI Radeon 9600
[10:17] <elyon> I had gone through the steps on the Ubuntu website to install the drivers for it, but I suspect that is what caused the problems.
[10:17] <e\ectro_> drivera90: your name was appended for some reason, sorry
[10:18] <drivera90> Oh. Fun times.
[10:18] <MasterShrek> most likely elyon, either that or framebuffer
[10:18] <elyon> I can't say if the problem existed BEFORE installing the drivers because I had never Logged out before doing that...
[10:18] <leexgx> MasterShrek, when i first had 6.06 on it was SMB enabled
[10:18] <MasterShrek> u mean smp right?
[10:18] <elyon> MasterShrek - so, short of reinstalling Ubuntu, how would I go about fixing that?  Removing the drivers?
[10:19] <leexgx> smp
[10:19] <leexgx> heh
[10:19] <MasterShrek> yea u could try that elyon, not too sure how u would go about doing it though
[10:19] <MasterShrek> leexgx was there a kernel in the repos for smp?
[10:19] <elyon> Yeah, I have no clue either.  Any suggestions, though?
[10:19] <MasterShrek> gimme a minute elyon
[10:19] <Siv0x> #nvidia
[10:19] <elyon> Sure thing.  Thanks.
[10:20] <Siv0x> !nvidia
[10:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:20] <MasterShrek> well u could try installing an older driver, that may help elyon
[10:20] <elyon> Would that automatically overwrite the newer ones?
[10:20] <MasterShrek> yea i believe so
[10:20] <tannerld> does fglrx support direct rendering?
[10:20] <leexgx> MasterShrek,  looks like it
[10:21] <MasterShrek> cool, try that out
[10:21] <MasterShrek> else u could custom compile a kernel, thats always fun to do
[10:22] <elyon> Hmm... you wouldn't happen to know how I would install the older drivers, would you?  To be honest, I'm definitely not a LInux guru (obviously)... a child of Microsoft so to speak :)
[10:22] <leexgx> MasterShrek,  just tick it and apply and see what happens ?
[10:23] <leexgx> MasterShrek,  i am not to bothered if it brakes as its only an vmware box
[10:23] <MasterShrek> leexgx yes, then on boot choose that kernel from grub
[10:23] <tannerld> does fglrx support direct rendering?
[10:23] <element43> tannerld, yes it should.
[10:24] <MasterShrek> elyon i believe u would install them the same way, but finding them might be another task, i know nvidia has archives of their old drivers, not sure if ati does
[10:24] <tannerld> element43: so, glxgears should be working?
[10:24] <elyon> Ugh... too much involved in all that, I think lol  Linux is daunting as it is.
[10:24] <element43> tannerld, i'd imagine so. I can't say for sure.
[10:25] <HighLife> I have 2 monitors and I'm trying to get get americas army to only use one, anyone have any ideas on how I could do this?
[10:25] <WindyCN> can someone please tell me where WINE installs to on a typical ubuntu install?
[10:25] <HighLife> I'm using nvidia twinview
[10:25] <MasterShrek> elyon what was the card again?
[10:25] <leexgx> MasterShrek,  that one was for 2.4 kernel
[10:25] <violot> HIghLife: How do you get fullscreen to use two!?
[10:26] <violot> I have everything default as 1, but I want 2 :P
[10:26] <MasterShrek> ugh leexgx, they didnt have a 2.6?
[10:26] <HighLife> violot: I have no idea lol
[10:26] <pianoboy3333> Can someone help me with setting up my system to use another printer connected to a windows machine?
[10:26] <violot> Hee hee
[10:26] <violot> I need that so bad
[10:26] <elyon> Radeon 9600
[10:26] <der0b> windycn: dpkg -L wine will tell you where there files are installed to
[10:26] <HighLife> WindyCN: it installs in your home directory
[10:26] <violot> HighLife, do you have different sized monitors?
[10:26] <MasterShrek> pianoboy3333 scrap the windows box and install linux
[10:26] <MasterShrek> :)
[10:26] <HighLife> yes
[10:26] <WindyCN> thanks
[10:26] <WindyCN> HighLife: i looked there
[10:26] <leexgx> MasterShrek,  thay do but i find out in an min if it works or not heh
[10:26] <violot> HighLife, yeah, I get annoyed with that.  I have it too :P
[10:26] <WindyCN> it ought to be in .wine/etc etc
[10:27] <pianoboy3333> MasterShrek: smart ass answers belong in #ubuntu-offtopic.....
[10:27] <WindyCN> but there's no .wine under my home folder
[10:27] <HighLife> WindyCN: hold ctrl+h
[10:27] <MasterShrek> heh
[10:27] <WindyCN> and i checked both synaptic and add/remove
[10:27] <elyon> Pianoboy - he was joking, dude... calm down.
[10:27] <WindyCN> and wine is installed
[10:27] <WindyCN> HighLife: done that already
[10:27] <MasterShrek> WindyCN there will be after u run wine once
[10:27] <WindyCN> how do i run wine?
[10:27] <WindyCN> (noob question i know)
[10:27] <HighLife> vinecfg
[10:27] <HighLife> wincfg*
[10:27] <MasterShrek> elyon:  http://ati.de/support/drivers/linux/radeonprevious-linux.html
[10:27] <Music_Shuffle> winecfg* btw.
[10:27] <WindyCN> oh there we go
[10:27] <WindyCN> thanks
[10:28] <HighLife> ahhh :P
[10:28] <leexgx> brb rebooting
[10:28] <mnoir> WindyCN: synaptic will tell you EXACTLY what files it put where, if you will just let it.
[10:28] <e\ectro_> are there instructions for getting nvidia to work properly?  I installed the latest version  NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9746-pkg2.run, but X is giving me an error on the nvidia driver " The NVIDIA kernel module does not appear to be receiving interrupts generated by the NVIDIA graphics device PCI:1:0:0."
[10:28] <HighLife> violet: Do you know how to fix the problem?
[10:28] <elyon> MasterShrek - thanks.  Any suggestion on which version to try?  Or just start witht he latest of those and work down the list?
[10:28] <WindyCN> hmm
[10:28] <WindyCN> righto
[10:28] <MasterShrek> thats what i would do i guess
[10:29] <WindyCN> in any case the folder .wine has appeared now so i'll figure it out as i go i suppose
[10:29] <WindyCN> thanks guys
[10:29] <elyon> WindyCN - you need help with Wine?
[10:29] <WindyCN> expect me back on in 5 mins when i noob up and destroy linux along with half the internet by accident
[10:29] <pianoboy3333> elyon: I know, I'm only kidding
[10:29] <pianoboy3333> Can someone help me with setting up my system to use another printer connected to a windows machine?
[10:29] <WindyCN> elyon: not per se, i'm only using it for one app and if i run into more problems i'll figure it out there
[10:29] <MasterShrek> e\ectro_ u shold just have to run ./NVIDIA....   and let the installer modify your xorg.conf
[10:30] <elyon> WindyCN - okay, well I've used it to run all my old windows games without a problem.  If you need some simple help, let me know ;)
[10:30] <MasterShrek> what app WindyCN ?
[10:30] <WindyCN> ventrilo
[10:30] <MasterShrek> whats that do?
[10:30] <WindyCN> voice app
[10:30] <WindyCN> voice comms over the net
[10:30] <elyon> MasterShrek - its a gamers voice app :)
[10:30] <WindyCN> stuff like clan voice comms and stuff
[10:30] <MasterShrek> ic
[10:30] <wireless_prob> i have a problem with my wireless
[10:30] <WindyCN> i'd go with TS but my clan insists on vent :(
[10:30] <HighLife> let me guess ventrilo
[10:30] <wireless_prob> my adaptor works
[10:30] <elyon> Yeah, I use TS.. much better from what I've heard, though not as popular.
[10:31] <wireless_prob> wifi-radar picks up the network across the street, but does not see my wireless network
[10:31] <wireless_prob> anybody know why that might be?
[10:31] <HighLife> I prefer vent the sound quality has always been much better to me in vent
[10:31] <johan_> i need to read a mac .gaffle file
[10:32] <WindyCN> yeah
[10:32] <johan_> is there an app to read it or to convert it, it does not need to be edited i just need to see it
[10:32] <WindyCN> vent sound quality does seem better
[10:32] <WindyCN> but
[10:32] <elyon> Hey, MasterShrek - the download from ATI is a .RUN file.  Can't execute it...
[10:32] <HighLife> yes
[10:32] <WindyCN> if you set TS's default codec up
[10:32] <WindyCN> it's comparable
[10:32] <wireless_prob> if I do a iwlist scan is shows like 10 different sells, most with no essid, on channel 1, plus it shows the network across the street
[10:32] <HighLife> almost
[10:32] <HighLife> but there is still a difference
[10:32] <WindyCN> and incidentally, i get the definite feeling that vent uses up more bandwidth
[10:32] <konam> a question for any ubuntu-dev here. The stability will be priority in the Feisty release?
[10:32] <johan_> .graffle
[10:32] <MasterShrek> elyon do    chmod a+x [file] 
[10:32] <WindyCN> well...if i remember right, both vent and TS support a variety of clients
[10:33] <WindyCN> err
[10:33] <WindyCN> codecs
[10:33] <MasterShrek> then ./[file]  as root
[10:33] <HighLife> WindyCN I was actoully planing to setup ventrilo on wine soon
[10:33] <HighLife> last time I did it I was not able to hear others in the server though
[10:33] <WindyCN> i did it today cos it's about the only thing i regularly use windows for on my laptop
[10:33] <WindyCN> games run on my main windows machine
[10:33] <HighLife> Yes I actoully rent out both types of servers, but I still prefer ventrilo
[10:33] <WindyCN> and apparently, the wine app DB states that ubuntu runs wine more or less perfectly
[10:34] <WindyCN> barring minor hitches
[10:34] <WindyCN> ubuntu is your best shot for it from what it says
[10:34] <HighLife> Yes, it is
[10:34] <spiderworm> when i play dvds in ubuntu, the sound is very quiet.... i can increase the master or pcm channels, but that makes everything louder... too loud... is there any way in the mixer that i can increase the dvd audio-in channel seperate of other channels?
[10:34] <HighLife> I have had most all of the features working at one time or another
[10:35] <WindyCN> well
[10:35] <WindyCN> i'll have to see won't i
[10:35] <WindyCN> anyways thanks for the help guys
[10:35] <pianoboy3333> Can someone help me with setting up my system to use another printer connected to a windows machine?
[10:35] <WindyCN> back in no more than 30 mins when crap starts exploding
[10:35] <WindyCN> flames start spewing
[10:35] <WindyCN> and the apocalypse begins
[10:35] <lane> Does anyone know of a webcam that works with ubuntu server without the gui?
[10:36] <MasterShrek> pianoboy3333 do u have samba installed?
[10:36] <tannerld> in fglrxinfo; opengl renderer string is generic; is that right?
[10:36] <pianoboy3333> MasterShrek: yes, lemme check, what packages would it be? just samba?
[10:36] <elyon> MasterShrek - how do I run the file as a super user?  I thought it was sudo, but that just tells me the file doesn't exist.
[10:37] <pianoboy3333> MasterShrek: woa, I didn't have the samba package... but it was working before, weird, ok, thanks
[10:38] <HighLife> So you guys know how I could get Americas Army working on only one screen with nvidia twinveiw, or even better make it show up in a window?
[10:38] <MasterShrek> elyon run   su    it will switch you to root, then run the installer
[10:39] <mnoir> !sudo
[10:39] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:39] <timo902> How do i lose opera in a terminal (i have made it crash )
[10:39] <timo902> clse*
[10:39] <timo902> close*
[10:39] <CATS_CEO> how do i install xchat?
[10:39] <tannerld> sudo apt-get install xchat
[10:39] <timo902> sudo apt-get install xchat?
[10:39] <roniez> sudo apt-get xhcat?
[10:39] <roniez> ah
[10:39] <roniez> install forgott that.
[10:39] <somerville32> !software | CATS_CEO
[10:39] <ubotu> CATS_CEO: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents and !Offline
[10:39] <TimTurnip> CATS_CEO:  or use the add/remove software app
[10:39] <Angelus> hi everyone, I just downloaded a program (x roast) and I get a message no root configuration file found or readable. The superuser must start and configure it before using it
[10:40] <Angelus> can anyone help?
[10:40] <BrianB04> Good afternoon all.
[10:40] <timo902> How do you close a crashed application in a terminal ?
[10:40] <mnoir> Angelus: use sudo to run it as superuser
[10:40] <timo902> BrianB04:hi
[10:40] <minerale> Greetings, I have started a vnc server, when I try to start gnome inside I get this error: gnome-session: you're already running a session manager  - previously I have been able to run gnome just fine inside vnc, also I can run gnome just fine if I login twice using gdm - why is that?
[10:41] <somerville32> timo901, killall or kill
[10:41] <Magusknight> where would i find drivers for a moniter (nec fe991 crt)
[10:41] <want2ubunt2> hello all
[10:41] <dev> most of these docs are for 6.06
[10:41] <Angelus> how do I get to the program to run it?
[10:41] <HighLife> Magusknight: You shoud not need drivers
[10:41] <timo902> so it will be "kill opera'" ?
[10:41] <Acidictadpole> How can i see SATA drives in ubuntu? Are they just other drives?
[10:42] <spiderworm> when i play dvds in ubuntu, the sound is very quiet.... i can increase the master or pcm channels, but that makes everything louder... too loud... is there any way in the mixer that i can increase the dvd audio-in channel seperate of other channels?
[10:42] <HighLife> Magusknight: What do you have for a video card?
[10:42] <elyon> Grr... can't switch to root?
[10:42] <Magusknight> i crashs every time i try to change the res
[10:42] <mnoir> timo - type 'man killall'
[10:43] <CATS_CEO> !packages
[10:43] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[10:43] <HighLife> Magusknight you probably need to install your video card drivers
[10:43] <want2ubunt2> Newb Question: Do any of the releases support AMD x2 processors?
[10:43] <violot> AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
[10:43] <elyon> MasterShrek - "bash: ati-driver-installer-8.32.5-x86.x86_64.run: command not found"  The filename was copy and pasted and I'm in the proper directory...
[10:43] <Angelus> I have the same problem, I type su root and enter the password and it doesn't accept it
[10:43] <violot> want2ubunt2, I have one: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
[10:43] <violot> It's working fine
[10:44] <timo901> ohh seems more easy to reboot
[10:44] <mnoir> Angelus: have you read the web page that explaiuns how to use sudo?
[10:44] <Angelus> no
[10:45] <HighLife> wnat2ubunt2 all of edgy has out of the box svn support
[10:45] <mnoir> !sudo
[10:45] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:45] <want2ubunt2> Let me rephrase: Do any open source apps support x2 processors?
[10:45] <johan_> i have a .graffle file and cant open it
[10:45] <Angelus> but I want to get to the directory where this program is and I don't know what directory, it have been downloaded by Synapic download manager
[10:45] <HighLife> woops let me rephrase that edgy has out of the box*
[10:45] <Angelus> thank you
[10:45] <TimTurnip> Angelus:  make sure that you customize the root password, too. Every time I do a new install of Ubuntu, I have to manually change the password for root; easily done via the user manager.
[10:46] <elyon> mnoir - I'm having a problem with sudo too.  I'm trying to run a command, but sudo says the command doesn't exist.  I'm in the right directory and copy/pasting the filename...
[10:46] <TimTurnip> i don't know what it defaults to
[10:46] <HighLife> want2ubunt2 you me are they multi-threaded?
[10:46] <want2ubunt2> yes
[10:46] <mnoir> elyon: what happens when you try the cmd without sudo?
[10:46] <tannerld> in fglrxinfo; opengl renderer string is generic; is that right?
[10:46] <HighLife> You know I'm not sure
[10:46] <deepsa> why does it sucks
[10:46] <HighLife> I wish mencoder would have it soon though
[10:46] <mnoir> elyon: you are in the dir where the cmd exists?
[10:47] <elyon> mnoir - It will run, but then stop and tell me it needs to be run as Super User
[10:47] <mnoir> hmm
[10:47] <elyon> mnoir - Yes, in the same dir as the file.
[10:47] <HighLife> want2ubuntu What are you looking to do?
[10:47] <mnoir> normally in the dir where the cmd exists, it should be addressed as ./cmd   not just cmd
[10:47] <koyo001> where can i get help for wireless for laptops
[10:48] <koyo001> if anyone knows please tell me
[10:48] <Angelus> where are program stored in the file system?
[10:48] <elyon> So would I do ./sudo [file] ?  Or sudo ./[file] ?
[10:48] <fmachado> !wireless
[10:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:48] <mnoir> elyon:  sudo ./cmd
[10:48] <koyo001> thank you very much
[10:49] <elyon> That did it, mnoir!  Thanks.
[10:49] <con-man> when I try to run wine I get this "sudo apt-get --build source wine"
[10:49] <mnoir> elyon: would you like to know why?
[10:49] <con-man> wait
[10:49] <con-man> nm
[10:49] <want2ubunt2> Next Newb Question: Can 6.10 be installed to a USB HD so that I can dual boot while learning this OS?
[10:49] <con-man> when I try to run wine I get this bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory"
[10:49] <leexgx> MasterShrek,  that seemed to work
[10:49] <elyon> mnoir - Why what?
[10:50] <MasterShrek> good leexgx
[10:50] <con-man> I just installed wine from source
[10:50] <con-man> bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory
[10:50] <MasterShrek> sorry elyon was afk, hows it goin now?
[10:50] <leexgx> MasterShrek,  maybe an bug maybe
[10:50] <mnoir> elyon: due to security concerns, current dir is never on your PATH for exec purposes
[10:50] <elyon> MasterShrek - still working on it :)
[10:50] <mnoir> elyon: . is curr dir
[10:50] <elyon> mnoir - didn't know that.  Good to know and it makes sense.  Thank you.
[10:50] <con-man> I just installed wine from source
[10:50] <con-man> bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory
[10:50] <HighLife> want2ubunt2 its possible, but I have not tried it.
[10:50] <mnoir> np
[10:51] <HighLife> I also dual boot, but I just used partition magic and put ubuntu on my hd
[10:51] <MasterShrek> con-man did u do   sudo make install
[10:51] <con-man> yes
[10:51] <con-man> ill do it again
[10:51] <MasterShrek> do a   whereis wine
[10:51] <fmachado> want2ubunt2, google for "install ubuntu usb hd". I found SUCCESS - Breezy loaded on external USB @ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811
[10:52] <con-man> MasterShrek: no go
[10:52] <Nasie> hallo
[10:52] <cc77> what about ieee
[10:52] <HighLife> fmachado how big is it?
[10:52] <HighLife> what size drive would I need?
[10:52] <sekondchakra> what's the secret to getting Amarok to play audio CDs?
[10:53] <sekondchakra> I've configured the device(s), and I can connect...but nothing displays
[10:53] <cc77> cd playing is not build in linux+kde/gnome?
[10:53] <fmachado> HighLife, I heard about ppl installing Ubuntu into a 1GB pen drive
[10:54] <sekondchakra> I can play CDs with other progs...
[10:54] <sekondchakra> why not Amarok??
[10:54] <HighLife> ohhh I was wondering if there was a smaller version for say a 256mb drive
[10:54] <leexgx> MasterShrek,  when doing an upgrade it uses kernel 2.6.17-10-i386 but that one is not SMP enabled but 2.6.17-10-generic is (of you install from an 6.10 disk it uses an 2.6.17-10-generic kernel))
[10:54] <cc77> sekondchakra, what happens when you try it with amarok?
[10:54] <sekondchakra> It does everything else really well...even plays stuff off the ipod...
[10:54] <MasterShrek> interesting
[10:55] <sekondchakra> cc77 I see nothing in that leftmost window...  ie nothing on the CD is displayed
[10:55] <sekondchakra> it even says "device successfuly connected... but nothing displays
[10:55] <leexgx> MasterShrek,  so probley should report that maybe ?
[10:56] <cc77> sekondchakra, it happens with all cd's?
[10:56] <sekondchakra> hmmm...ok...  let me try a different one...
[10:56] <fmachado> want2ubunt2, check this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=367614
[10:56] <leexgx> MasterShrek,  even after useing the the 2.6.17-10-generic kernel i had to edit the grub.lst to put 2.6.17-10-generic at the start of the boot order
[10:57] <sekondchakra> "Device successfully connected", but nuthin'...
[10:57] <leexgx> i had to use sudu geit menu.lst
[10:57] <cc77> It only happens with amorok? sekondchakra?
[10:57] <sekondchakra> yeah...so far...
[10:58] <want2ubunt2> HighLife: Have been investigating dual-boot with XP. Most of my hardware should be supported out of the box.
[10:58] <sekondchakra> I was able to access via Audacious...
[10:58] <MasterShrek> are the us ubuntu repos just slow or what? it starts off at like 60k/s then drops to 6k then 4 really slow
[10:59] <sekondchakra> Rhythmbox instantly recognized the CD...
[10:59] <cc77> but the music plays when you hit the play button. sekondchakra?
[10:59] <HighLife> want2ubunt2 What is your system?
[10:59] <sekondchakra> cc77 no...not in Amarok
[10:59] <want2ubunt2> HighLife: Want to try to install 6.10 to a USB HD so as not to screw up my XP install - wifey would shoot me.
[10:59] <sekondchakra> cc77 it plays in the others....
[11:00] <HighLife> want2ubunt2 I have my own pc, becuase I do a lot of that :P
[11:00] <johan_> how can i read omnigraffle files
[11:00] <cc77> sekondchakra, check the sound server/mixer in amarok and the internet music database.
[11:01] <sekondchakra> cc77   keep in mind that Amarok will play OTHER files...I just can't get it to see an audio CD...
[11:02] <Angelus> how do I get to the file system directories in terminal
[11:02] <dev> heh
[11:02] <dev> cd?
[11:03] <tannerld> in fglrxinfo; opengl renderer string is generic; is that right?
[11:03] <Angelus> but it doesn't show any directories that i can see
[11:03] <Angelus> it only shows desktop
[11:03] <want2ubunt2> HighLife: SYStem. AMDx2 - 3800, 2gigs ram, Nvidia 6800gt, 2 - 60mb seagates, DVD, ZIP, SCSI scanner, Epson r800, hp2600n on network, Dell 20" widescreen
[11:03] <linux1> hiya ppl just compiled a new kernel and for some reason it wont boot passed script rc.local any idea whats up ppl
[11:03] <dev> because thats all you ahve in your home directory...
[11:03] <Angelus> but I need to go to a program direcotry to run it as a SU
[11:04] <HighLife> want2ubunt2 that should all work :)
[11:04] <Stormx2> Right. Anyone know how I can mount webdav without using GNOME? GNOME seems to screw it up pretty badly...
[11:05] <Iceshadow> Hey folks. I'm trying to ditch madwifi-ng for madwifi-old on Edgy due to my card type. No problem, i can take care of that. I removed restricted-modules, etc. However, when I rebuild madwifi as root, i keep getting "/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/net". Any ideas?
[11:05] <want2ubunt2> There is a driver hack for the HP - not quite 100% - but still usefull. Video resolutions may be a problem thpigh.
[11:05] <eyalw> hi] 
[11:06] <Iceshadow> btw, that last part made no sense. I can't write to that folder as root
[11:06] <Iceshadow> ><
[11:06] <HighLife> want2ubunt2 my setup is a lot like yours except for the scanner and the hp printer and I just bought a 7600gts and it seems to work great with 2 monitors and full res
[11:06] <james296> ok, how come every time I start Ubuntu, an error message comes up saying Internal error, failed to initialize HAL! ?
[11:06] <eyalw> i'm intending on buying a new screen and i just wanna make sure its good and there will be no problems integrating it with ubuntu/linux
[11:07] <sekondchakra> O
[11:07] <sekondchakra> I'm going to try it under Kubuntu...see if it makes any diff..
[11:07] <eyalw> If I'm planning on buying a 22 inch screen. what will be a good max resolution?
[11:07] <sekondchakra> thanks....
[11:07] <james296> I JUST re installed it, and didnt add anything to it except this, my Nvidia driver from the Add/Remove applications program, and a custom installer from the unofficial Ubuntu desktop guide
[11:08] <james296> but that has never caused that to happen
[11:08] <HighLife> eyalw what video card do you have and what monitor are you planing on buying?
[11:08] <Iceshadow> does anyone know why after disabling restricted-modules I still can't build libraries to those directories as root?
[11:08] <eyalw> HighLife: i have a geforce 6600 GT
[11:08] <ere> hello??
[11:09] <james296> well?
[11:09] <VerdRousseau> I have a Realtek chipset and I just downloaded the linux driver for it from their site, how can I install the driver?
[11:09] <tannerld> in fglrxinfo; opengl renderer string is generic; is that right?
[11:09] <want2ubunt2> HighLife: wow, that is very kool. I want to keep my current hardware setup. Don't want vista. Tired of throwing money at this hobby!
[11:09] <eyalw> HighLife: and, i'm still not sure about what screen i sould buy
[11:09] <DBO> tannerld, your fglrx drivers are fine
[11:09] <ademan> can one make a software repository out of a normal http host?
[11:10] <ademan> with the phoenix repository builder?
[11:10] <eyalw> HighLife: i'm considering buying: Samsung 225BW . can u check it out for me, and tell me whether it has good specs?
[11:10] <HighLife> eyalw do you know the max resolutions of the monitors you are planning on buying?
[11:10] <eyalw> HighLife: yes
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> ademan: I don't know phoenix, but I know the answer is yes, and I do know of a tool called Falcon (from Seveas)
[11:10] <HighLife> Samsung makes very nice monitors
[11:10] <Montag_> hi
[11:11] <ademan> tonyyarusso: yeah falcon was definitely what i meant
[11:11] <tannerld> DBO: but glxgears or any 3d games are not
[11:11] <Montag_> does somebody know a place where i can get about a gig webspace for downloads?
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> ademan: Then yep.  Check its docs for details.
[11:11] <eyalw> HighLife: 22" , 1680x1050, 1:700
[11:11] <juangaleon> hola
[11:11] <DBO> tannerld, does glxgears give any helpful errors?] 
[11:11] <juangaleon> alguien que me pueda ayudar a instalar yahoo messenger
[11:11] <Montag_> legal downloads ;)
[11:11] <tannerld> DBO: just high fps
[11:11] <runtime> hey pplz
[11:11] <runtime> I'm using an old Ubuntu 5 I think live CD
[11:12] <ademan> tonyyarusso: to the best of my knowlege cube, and a lot of the other quake based open source games aren't in any repository correct?
[11:12] <runtime> can I test out XGL with this?
[11:12] <HighLife> eyalw a friend of mine has the 6600gt and it will do pretty high resolutions
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> ademan: No idea (not a gamer)
[11:12] <HighLife> I would run it at 1680 x 1050 :)
[11:12] <DBO> tannerld, what?
[11:13] <eyalw> HighLife: is 1680x1050 considered high? i'm kinda in the dark about these things...
[11:13] <want2ubunt2> eyalw: Check out the Dell (yes, Dell) widescreens. Same lcd panel as the Macs and a lot cheaper. I luv mine.
[11:13] <runtime> can I use XGL while using a LiveCD?
[11:13] <HighLife> That card will do 2048 x 1536
[11:13] <ademan> tonyyarusso: i figure at least someone might enjoy being able to have a games repository, also i know that enemy territory and true combat: elite won't ever be in the ubuntu repos cause they're closed source
[11:13] <tannerld> DBO: it prints nothing out, but the window where the gears should be, is a block image of the background
[11:14] <ademan> runtime: what video card do you have?
[11:14] <runtime> ATI 128 MB x300 se
[11:14] <HighLife> want2ubunt2 is right about the dells they are very nice too and CHEAP
[11:14] <runtime> 3.4 ghz processor
[11:14] <runtime> 1.5 GB ram
[11:15] <ademan> runtime: hrm, yeah so you'd have to get Xgl not a newer version of Xorg, gimme a second, sabayonlinux had a livecd distro that had compiz and Xgl on it a while back, lemme see if they've got one with beryl+Xgl
[11:15] <Montag_> Does somebody know a webspace with one gigabyte webspace for free?
[11:15] <DBO> tannerld, looking at your glxinfo there is no reason I can think of why that would be...
[11:15] <DBO> tannerld, are you trying to run xgl by chance?
[11:16] <tannerld> DBO: not yet
[11:16] <runtime> ademan: So I cant test it out right now with what I have?
[11:16] <eyalw> want2ubunt2: I like Macs quality screens, u say Dell are the same?
[11:16] <ademan> runtime: http://www.linuxtracker.org/download.php?id=2930&name=SabayonLinux-x86-3.0e.miniEdition.torrent
[11:16] <ademan> it actually supports both Xgl AND AIGLX, so you'd be able to use it
[11:16] <runtime> ademan: yea but is there any way to use it right now? w/ ubuntu 5
[11:16] <ademan> if you want an http download i got that link from: http://www.sabayonlinux.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1410   but i highly reccomend using the torrent
[11:17] <ademan> runtime: Xgl? yeah, i'm pretty sure, lemme google
[11:17] <ademan> but i honestly don't think that beryl, Xgl or anything like that is really worth more than testing at the moment
[11:17] <runtime> i just want to check out the graphics
[11:17] <runtime> ademan: cuz whats the point of dl a livecd just for testing, I might as well do a perm install
[11:18] <DBO> tannerld, well Im stumped then
[11:18] <Ferret> CarlFK: Thanks for the inspiration earlier, tracked down the problem with the 180 second udev-related pause. n.n
[11:18] <userundefine> I don't really know why people say compiz/beryl isn't for more than testing.  It's stable enough for desktop use for general stuff
[11:18] <want2ubunt2> eyalw: Yep, same lcd, different electronics and package. I run 1680x1050 in XP.
[11:18] <ademan> runtime: well i think you'll decide to only try it out, i have it permanently on my computer, and i honestly only use it to show off to my friends, then i turn it off for normal use
[11:18] <tannerld> DBO: hmm. well, thanks anyway
[11:19] <ademan> userundefine: mostly cause NVIDIA people with xorg 7.1 have the black window bug
[11:19] <LinTux> how do I install samba server to enable my machine to see the other xp machine in terminal?
[11:19] <nmillar> where is the best support page for newbie to get wifi running
[11:19] <ademan> nmillar: edgy?
[11:19] <tonyyarusso> !wifi | nmillar
[11:19] <ubotu> nmillar: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:19] <nmillar> xubuntu latest
[11:19] <userundefine> ademan, I've vaguely heard of it but haven't experienced it.  I've got nvidia and the latest xorg in Edgy repos
[11:19] <runtime> ademan: is it really bad for performance?
[11:19] <ademan> runtime: naw, it's actually suprisingly good
[11:20] <ademan> brb
[11:20] <HighLife> userundefine: it really depends on what card you have, I know that with my old integrated I had a lot of problems and black screens
[11:20] <nmillar> ta guys - off to give it a go
[11:20] <Mixx`> !wifi | mixx
[11:20] <ubotu> mixx: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:20] <userundefine> HighLife, I suppose so.  I've got a laptop with ati that I haven't tried it on yet
[11:20] <Mixx`> !mythweb
[11:20] <ubotu> mythweb: Web interface add-on module for MythTV. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.20-0.6ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 577 kB, installed size 2556 kB
[11:20] <HighLife> What ati?
[11:21] <nmillar> /exit
[11:21] <HighLife> I would suggest at least a x1400
[11:21] <Solarion> anyone know why my synaptics touchpad disengages when I have a second user going, and re-engages when they log out?
[11:21] <Solarion> also, why single-click sometimes double-clicks and no clicks soemtimes single-click
[11:21] <LinTux> what is the command to install samba server in terminal
[11:22] <LameBMX> any recommendations for water effects ... seems ungrab wave is like to crash beryl now .. :/
[11:22] <runtime> ademan: then why dont you leave it on?
[11:23] <LinTux> what is the best chat program and server to use to contact linux users
[11:23] <violot> here on IRC
[11:23] <violot> I think
[11:23] <violot> at least
[11:23] <Solarion> irc generally
[11:23] <Solarion> trick is to find a channel that's not as noisy as here
[11:23] <violot> #ubuntuforums for chat
[11:24] <violot> Good for chatting with Linux users, as you said you wanted
[11:24] <violot> It is more informal than here
[11:24] <violot> And less busy
[11:24] <eyalw> what about Dell 2007WFP?
[11:24] <LinTux> what is more popular on Linux, MSN, Jabber etc, what would use recommend for live messenging
[11:24] <WindyCN> well...as promised i came back with more problems
[11:24] <violot> LinTux, IRC is most popular ;P
[11:24] <WindyCN> can anyone tell me how to make a shortcut with alacarte that can run multiple terminal commands?
[11:24] <LinTux> violet, cheers Happy New Year
[11:24] <violot> gnome-terminal -e "foo; foo"
[11:25] <Riyonuk> If Im about to do a clean install of ubuntu, which version would one suggest and why?
[11:25] <WindyCN> thanks violot
[11:25] <violot> No problem
[11:25] <runtime> ademan: so...any way I can try it out right now?
[11:25] <violot> LinTux, you too :)
[11:25] <WindyCN> violot: could I PM you? I need to clarify how that works and i don't want to clutter the channel
[11:25] <violot> Sure.
[11:25] <violot> Go ahead
[11:25] <WindyCN> thanks
[11:25] <Beta> Whats the Ubuntu website about?
[11:25] <HighLife> eyalw: I like that monitor :)
[11:25] <LameBMX> ubuntu
[11:26] <runtime> ademan: btw this is the first time in a while I've used ubuntu and it blows away the speed of windows...I have like fifty things going on and it doesnt lag like windows
[11:26] <LinTux> best command to install samba in terminal
[11:26] <Beta> Whats ubuntu?
[11:26] <fraudster> (@N 4nYB0dY T37L mE, c4n YOU R34d WHA7 1 @M 7Yp1NG? :P
[11:26] <LameBMX> linux distro
[11:26] <MasterShrek> i can fraudster
[11:26] <MasterShrek> ;P
[11:26] <LameBMX> unfortunately fraudster
[11:26] <fraudster> MasterShrek, hehe
[11:26] <fraudster> I just wanted to see, umm... leet seems kinda werid
[11:27] <fraudster> almost funny
[11:27] <WindyCN> ok...no PMs for non registered users
[11:27] <WindyCN> bah
[11:27] <LameBMX> yea it is ...
[11:27] <WindyCN> violot: what does the -e switch do?
[11:27] <fraudster> you can change whole webpages into l33t http://www.sp34k1337.com/
[11:27] <LameBMX> WindyCN, it runs the command
[11:27] <eyalw> but its which is better? Dell 2007WFP or Samsung 225BW ?
[11:27] <violot> WindyCN, it executes a command
[11:27] <WindyCN> oh i see
[11:27] <LinTux> best WYSIWYG program for HTML in Linux?
[11:28] <violot> WindyCN, "foo; foobar" runs foo then foobar
[11:28] <WindyCN> is there a switch to hide the terminal window?
[11:28] <con-man> I just installed wine from source
[11:28] <con-man> bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory
[11:28] <violot> WindyCN, Then why did you want to run it in the terminal? :P
[11:28] <WindyCN> well
[11:28] <WindyCN> basically
[11:28] <eyalw> samsung's screen is larger, it is 22" > 20.1"
[11:28] <violot> WindyCN, like minimize it?
[11:28] <WindyCN> i need it to run vent through wine
[11:28] <Riyonuk> Can someone explain what distros are? Is it just programs that are bundled with it?
[11:28] <WindyCN> so perhaps there's another way of doing it
[11:28] <Shucknet> anyone here use ubuntu as a mail server?
[11:29] <WindyCN> but then i'm not aware of such finer details
[11:29] <LameBMX> use a run box WindyCN
[11:29] <Shucknet> and if so, what configuration do you recommend?  I'm migrating from a Suse 6.0 sendmail configuration
[11:29] <WindyCN> run box?
[11:29] <runtime> anyone know how I can use XGL with this ubuntu 5 livecd?
[11:29] <LameBMX> or just wait until the program is done doing what its doing
[11:29] <WindyCN> well
[11:29] <WindyCN> because it runs in WINE
[11:29] <WindyCN> if you close the terminal it closes vent
[11:30] <LameBMX> ahhhhh
[11:30] <Aranel> Hey, I'm thinking of buying a MacBook sometime in the future and putting Ubuntu on it. But I'm sort of confused as to the whole EFI thing... Will I still be able to use WINE, the w32 codecs, and other stuff that only runs on x86 machines? And if so, do I have to do anything special to make it work?
[11:30] <LameBMX> Aranel, they arent all pentuim based now
[11:30] <Aranel> How do you mean?
[11:31] <fraudster> how about now?
[11:31] <fraudster> |=0r 60|) $0 |_0\/3|) 7|-|3 \^/0r|_|), 7|-|@7 |-|3 9@\/3 |-|1$ 0|\||_y b390773|\| $0|\|, 7|-|@7 \^/|-|0$03\/3r b3|_13\/37|-| 1|\| |-|1|\/| $|-|0u|_|) |\|07 |>3r1$|-|, bu7 |-|@\/3 3\/3r|_@$71|\|9 |_1|=3.
[11:31] <fraudster> MasterShrek, :P
[11:31] <fraudster> LameBMX, :P
[11:31] <LameBMX> mac is using pentiums now .. i dont know if its all of them or just certian models
[11:31] <fraudster> that is some serious nonsense :)
[11:31] <amoore> they all do now
[11:32] <Aranel> Yeah, I know. I'd be using the i686 version of Ubuntu.
[11:32] <LameBMX> Aranel, i dont know but im more than willing to bet it would work just fine
[11:32] <hendrickvp> hey, I'm having some problems install an image toolkit like imagick, or GD2.
[11:32] <amoore> its a good move for mac
[11:32] <Aranel> Okay, thanks
[11:32] <fraudster> how about it anyone?
[11:32] <Aranel> I just wasn't sure about the fact that it uses an EFI instead of a BIOS
[11:33] <HighLife> WindyCN: Did you get vent working for you, with outbound AND inbound?
[11:33] <WindyCN> yes
[11:33] <hendrickvp> does anyone here know something about these services
[11:33] <WindyCN> a bit fiddly with the sound and i swear it's a bit laggier
[11:33] <WindyCN> but otherwise working fine
[11:33] <Riyonuk> fraudster, wtf, the bottom line is like "IN HIM SHOULD NOT ...hmm
[11:34] <HighLife> haha well I'm gonna try and install it agian
[11:34] <WindyCN> violot: it doesn't allow me to send PMs since i'm not a registered user
[11:34] <phr34ck> hey, I have a hdd that uses NTFS, how can I format it so I can use it in Ubuntu ?
[11:34] <runtime> anyone..
[11:34] <phr34ck> I'm in serious need of that. /
[11:34] <Rprp> Happy new year everybody o/
[11:34] <amoore> gparted
[11:34] <userundefine> phr34ck, use gparted
[11:34] <seanj> happy new year, Rprp
[11:34] <WindyCN> phr34ck: try using partition magic to make a new partition
[11:34] <violot> WindyCN, register :P
[11:34] <Rprp> rt :>
[11:34] <WindyCN> and then setting it up on there
[11:34] <Rprp> ty:.
[11:34] <violot> WindyCN, No email addy even needed :P
[11:34] <WindyCN> hmm
[11:34] <amoore> you will lose the data on it
[11:35] <ademan> sorry runtime, so what version of ubuntu are you running?
[11:35] <phr34ck> userundefine,  I already tried to use gparted but the format is disabled.
[11:35] <phr34ck> I don't know why
[11:35] <WindyCN> ah
[11:35] <WindyCN> that's better
[11:35] <hendrickvp> can some one help me with an imagick install?
[11:35] <rkvirani> hey all whats a good gnome-based program for viewing pictures as a slideshow?
[11:35] <phr34ck> it says that hdd is readonly.
[11:35] <fraudster> Riyonuk, it is a verus from the Bible
[11:35] <fraudster> Riyonuk, the first couple of lines
[11:35] <rkvirani> hendrickvp, what is the problem?
[11:35] <ademan> hendrickvp: yeah what's wrong?
[11:36] <Mahmoud85> phr34ck : delete the partition using gparted first then format
[11:36] <hendrickvp> I have downloaded the tar, but where do I put it in the system to install?
[11:36] <HighLife> phr34ck: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=ntfs+with
[11:36] <ademan> hendrickvp: it should be in the repositories
[11:36] <rkvirani> hendrickvp, apt has a package
[11:36] <rkvirani> use that
[11:36] <phr34ck> Mahmoud85, how to do so? ALL options are disabled when I try to edit it with gparted.
[11:36] <rkvirani> apt-get install imagemagick I believe
[11:36] <ademan> hendrickvp: sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[11:37] <Mahmoud85> phr34ck : unmount first
[11:37] <ademan> or use synaptic, either one, there's no need for using tarballs 99% of the time in ubuntu
[11:37] <rkvirani> so seriously, good program for viewing images as a slideshow?
[11:37] <hendrickvp> wow, you guys are awesome, why do they in the forums say to go through all these other hoops?
[11:37] <phr34ck> Mahmoud85,  I see, I will try to do so.
[11:37] <rkvirani> kind of like what mac osx preview
[11:37] <ademan> rkvirani: as a slideshow i don't know, like an automated one?  because the eye of gnome lets you hit left and right to view different files
[11:37] <rkvirani> ademan, hrm eye of gnome eh
[11:38] <ademan> rkvirani: it might not be what you want
[11:38] <ademan> but if you double click on any image file and hit left and right on the keyboard it will cycle through all of the image files in a folder
[11:38] <phr34ck> man, what's wrong with SUDO ??? This is the second I get the same error: Timespan something !
[11:38] <rkvirani> its not installed by default
[11:39] <ademan> rkvirani: are you using kubuntu?
[11:39] <eyalw> HighLife: is the response time (ms) is a really importent factor of the decision?
[11:39] <bcl> anyone had any trouble getting dvd-menu to work right? Looks like the composite tool from ImageMagick is broken.
[11:39] <ademan> phr34ck: haven't heard of it, try googling the exact error message
[11:39] <HighLife> eyalw: are you a gamer?
[11:40] <rkvirani> ademan, nope ubuntu 6.10
[11:40] <eyalw> no, buy i am affond of beryl
[11:40] <eyalw> *but
[11:40] <HighLife> then no it wont be
[11:40] <eyalw> HighLife: no, but i am affond of beryl
[11:41] <phr34ck> What does "Round to cylinder" mean in the gparted?
[11:41] <ademan> rkvirani: well double clicking on any image should bring up an image preview ( i thought it was called eye of gnome but maybe not)
[11:41] <HighLife> eyalw: by the way what are the responce times on the monitors your looking at?
[11:41] <ademan> phr34ck: your hard drive at the lowest levels is divideded up into sectors, heads and cylinders
[11:41] <hendrickvp> ademan: so now that I have run sudo apt-get install imagemagick, I have an installed and working image toolkit, correct?
[11:41] <finalbeta> !paste
[11:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:42] <ademan> hendrickvp: yep :-), provided no errors, but i wouldn't expect any
[11:42] <phr34ck> ademan, and what's the point in checking that option? does it benefit me in anything ?
[11:42] <hendrickvp> yeah, it's not windows... :D
[11:42] <hendrickvp> tnx
[11:42] <ademan> phr34ck: i think part of it may be performance on some hard drives but i can't be sure
[11:42] <ademan> also, if you're not too fond of the command line go to system->administration->synaptic package manager  it will list ALL of the available packages and you can browse them and install them with one or two clicks
[11:43] <phr34ck> ademan, okay, thanks,
[11:43] <SpacePuppy> phr34ck:  you need to consider the size of a bit and a bite.. round to a multiple of FF is always a spacesaving idea.
[11:43] <ademan> (to hendrickvp)
[11:43] <SpacePuppy> bite.. lol .. byte.
[11:43] <ademan> SpacePuppy: hungry are you?
[11:43] <ademan> :-)
[11:43] <SpacePuppy> thirsty actually..
[11:44] <rkvirani> got it thanx
[11:44] <rkvirani> its called "Image Viewer"
[11:44] <ademan> ah, my bad :-/   but glad you got it, was it what you wanted?
[11:45] <ccidral> are there video codecs available for 64 bit?
[11:46] <SpacePuppy> ccidral: don't the regular ones work?
[11:46] <ademan> ccidral: don't believe so unfortunately
[11:46] <crimsun> yes, but not the w32codecs you may be thinking of
[11:46] <phr34ck> What's the command to mount an already plugged external HDD ?
[11:46] <ccidral> SpacePuppy: you mean the 32 bit ones?
[11:46] <SpacePuppy> lol
[11:47] <bjames> phr34ck - have you tried the man page?
[11:47] <phr34ck> bjames, no I havn't.
[11:48] <ccidral> crimsun: can I get the codecs via apt-get?
[11:48] <phr34ck> what should I write? man mount ?
[11:48] <bjames> yeah
[11:48] <bjames> I think the format is something like:    mount <options> source dest
[11:48] <crimsun> ccidral, which ones? You can get ones for gst and xine, yes
[11:49] <ccidral> right, thanks
[11:49] <bjames> has anyone had experience with SATA drives in Linux?
[11:50] <bjames> I'm thinking of building a fileserver and the only info I can find (quickly) was that Linux doesn't support many SATA chipsets
[11:50] <tannerld> can anyone help me and figure out why glxgears is not working along with any 3d games/
[11:50] <bjames> tannerld: have you got the right drivers for your graphics card?
[11:50] <ccidral> I don't know anything about codecs. I would like to simply watch some movie files like WMV, AVI, etc. through Totem or something like
[11:51] <ccidral> in my ubuntu 64 bit
[11:51] <bjames> ccidral: best thing to do is install VLC media player
[11:52] <ccidral> bjames: thanks, I'm gonna install it right now
[11:52] <bjames> ccidral: I think there are issues with codec support in 64 bit system, but VLC (videolan) has built-in support for loads of codecs - DVD, WMA, XVid, etc
[11:52] <tannerld> bjames: yeah, dad set that up after many hectice hours
[11:52] <phr34ck> Okay, I did something wrong .. now I can't even read from the hdd.
[11:53] <bjames> ccidral: sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-* mozilla-plugin-vlc
[11:53] <e\ectro_> are there instructions for getting nvidia to work properly?  I installed the latest version  NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9746-pkg2.run, but X is giving me an error on the nvidia driver " The NVIDIA kernel module does not appear to be receiving interrupts generated by the NVIDIA graphics device PCI:1:0:0."
[11:53] <ccidral> bjames: oh thanks!
[11:53] <phr34ck> how can I unlock it? There is a lock icon next to my external, when I open gparted
[11:53] <bjames> that'll get you the vlc player and the firefox plugins
[11:54] <bjames> it even does Quicktime embedded stuff on webpages!
[11:54] <ccidral> nice
[11:54] <violot> Ooh! Vlc plugins!? :)
[11:54] <TimTurnip> e\ectro_: this page was helpful for me: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=325061&highlight=640x480
[11:54] <crimsun> edgy's vlc mozilla plugin is broken, known issue.
[11:54] <violot> Oh, nevermind then ;)
[11:54] <bjames> VLC is my favourite cross-platform media player - it plays pretty much EVERY codec under the sun and it's available on most/all platforms and as source
[11:54] <bjames> sweet
[11:55] <checkmate> i like Xine a bit more than VLC
[11:55] <ccidral> :-O that's wonderful
[11:55] <checkmate> and Xine gave me less codec problems overall than the other players
[11:55] <bjames> e\ectro: WRT getting NVidia drivers to work - have you tried the howto on the website?
[11:56] <e\ectro_> bjames: yeah, no luck in ubuntu
[11:56] <tannerld> can anyone help me and figure out why glxgears is not working along with any 3d games on my ati and fglrx?
[11:56] <e\ectro_> opensuse is working fine
[11:56] <e\ectro_> bjames: I have a dual boot
[11:56] <bruenig> novell
[11:56] <e\ectro_> bjames: I know its not the card
[11:56] <bjames> tannerld: try reinstalling the drivers
[11:56] <bjames> tannerld: latest version of course
[11:56] <TimTurnip> e\ectro_: i had a bitch of a time. i went through 45 minutes of google results before i finally found all the pieces
[11:57] <bruenig> the computer gods are probably mad at you for your use of opensuse
[11:57] <tannerld> bjames: i think i've done that 100 times with dad trying to figure it out
[11:57] <joink> hi i got some problems
[11:57] <joink> that i dont understand
[11:57] <bruenig> joink, and those are...
[11:58] <joink> am trying to install anythin and a message apears can i paste it?
[11:58] <TimTurnip> bruenig: have you spent much time with suse?
[11:58] <bjames> tannerld: the ubuntu howto worked for me last time I tried
[11:58] <bruenig> fan*
[11:58] <bruenig> !pate | joink
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <tannerld> bjames: which would that be?
[11:58] <bruenig> !paste | joink
[11:58] <ubotu> joink: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:58] <Enverex> Is there any way to install Ubuntu from inside another Linux environment?
[12:00] <TimTurnip> i used suse a few years ago, and loved the KDE implementation. i wonder how suse stacks up next to kubuntu.
[12:00] <bruenig> novel - deal with the devil, kubuntu - no deal with the devil, kubuntu wins