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TimTurniphaha12:00
TimTurnipyou're referring to the MS payoff, i assume?12:01
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=== androxxl wish happy new year from slovenia :)
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con-manI just installed wine from source12:02
con-manbash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory12:02
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checkmatewhat do i use to play .pls radio streams?12:02
con-manwhats wrong12:02
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joinkbruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62//12:02
crimsuncon-man, if you install from source, it's likely /usr/local/bin/wine12:02
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crimsuncon-man, ``which wine''12:02
bruenigor /opt/wine12:02
EnverexJust type "wine"12:02
con-mancrimsun: ?12:02
bruenigjoink, that link is wrong12:02
con-mancrimsun: 0.9.2812:02
sourcemanhappy new year from poland !12:03
bruenigjoink, or is the last / not supposed to be there12:03
eyalwhi, I'm in crisis, I'm running beryl, suddently my CPU usage skyrockets, its the Xgl thread which is suddenly using 99% CPU. how can i stop it? i tries killall, it didnt stop it12:03
joinkagain http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62/12:03
con-manI just installed wine from source12:03
con-manbash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory12:03
con-manwhats wrong12:03
bruenigjoink, do what it says, apt-get -f install12:03
Solarioncon-man: /usr/local/bin/wine?12:04
joinki dot and tryes to install it but at last is broke12:04
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eyalw??12:04
con-manSolarion: nope12:04
bruenigjoink, what language are you?12:04
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con-manSolarion: whats the fix12:04
Solarioncon-man: what did you configure it to use?12:04
EnverexIs there any way to install Ubuntu from inside another Linux environment? (like from a console or something)12:04
con-manSolarion: what do you mean12:04
bruenig!es | joink12:04
ubotujoink: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:04
superkirbyartistDirect rendering is off :( can someone help me turn it on?12:05
DigitalNinjaCan someone tell me what happened to Mplayer? I'm installing a new system and all I see is kmplayer12:05
Solariongenerally, if you're building a program from source, it will default to /usr/local, but you can change it with the configure script12:05
bruenigDigitalNinja, it is still there12:05
bruenig!info mplayer12:05
ubotumplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3461 kB, installed size 8624 kB12:05
Siv0xcon-man, you sure its not /usr/bin/.wine ?12:05
bruenigDigitalNinja, you must not have multiverse12:05
ozzloyi have a ipw3945 wireless card, seems detected fine, but for some reason i can't connect wirelessly.  someone want to help me troubleshoot?12:05
con-manim sure12:05
DigitalNinjabruening: hold on12:05
asteriasHappy new year!!!12:05
derFlohappy new year :) (from germany)12:05
bruenigcon-man, run winecfg12:05
DigitalNinjabruening: Let me check12:05
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TimTurnipman, that bot is pretty impressive12:05
con-manthere is a dir, /usr/local/bin/wine12:06
superkirbyartistAnyone can help me with direct rendering please?  I hear we're talking about Wine; can someone help me with Sonic Riders?12:06
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joinkbruening i pasted again http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63/12:06
tannerldcan anyone help me and figure out why glxgears is not working along with any 3d games on my ati and fglrx?12:06
ozzloyhappy new year asterias derFlo12:06
crimsuncon-man, that shouldn't be a dir but an executable, i.e., the one you're looking for12:06
ccidralhooray!! it worked! vlc is playing video files in my ubuntu 64 =)12:06
Crashzorfor al the people in europe ( dutch/german time zone ) happy nieuw year :P rest of the world just wait :P (amsg)12:06
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bruenigis12:06
con-mancrimsun: yes12:06
con-mancrimsun: it is12:06
joinkam gonna translate12:06
bruenig!es12:07
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:07
bruenigjoink, what not go to your language's channel, are they not helpful12:07
bruenigwhy*12:07
TimTurniphaha12:07
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TimTurnipbruenig: i was about to ask what language that was :P12:07
rambo3happy new year ubuntuers !12:07
con-mancrimsun: whats the fix12:07
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superkirbyartistDirect rendering?  Help?  Please?12:07
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bruenigcon-man, what happens when you do, winecfg in the terminal12:08
arte_happy nu year everyone!12:08
eyalw_how can i stop Xgl? its started using 99% CPU12:08
con-manit opens up the wine console12:08
joinkbruening http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64/12:08
bruenig#ubuntu-xgl12:08
con-manwith the tabs12:08
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arte_lets start nu year in linux coz windows totaly sucks!12:08
joinklove ubuntu12:09
eyalw_someone? how can i stop Xgl? its started using 99% CPU12:09
TimTurnipheh12:09
Zambeziarte_, Nice. You give it time in the beging.12:09
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con-manbruenig: winecfg loads the wine options window12:09
arte_dont use it12:09
joinkhappy new day from colombia12:09
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bruenigcon-man, ok, then it should all be good, wine whatever.exe, what does that do12:09
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tyme_does ubuntu 6.10 support wireless cards out of the box?12:09
PHoeNiGoReHappy new for gmt+1 ppl12:09
arte_just use ubuntu no fuckin extra12:09
eyalw_someone? how can i stop Xgl? its started using 99% CPU!!!!12:09
con-manbruenig: bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory12:10
tyme_kill it12:10
bruenigeyalw, #ubuntu-xgl12:10
eyalw_how?12:10
un_operateurubuntu new year!!12:10
joinkbruening sorry i pastend again http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64/12:10
tyme_eyalw_ gnome-xgl-settings12:10
eyalw_killall dosent work12:10
arte_killall xgl in terminal12:10
tyme_and theres another xgl-switch command12:10
tyme_gnome-xgl-switch?12:10
bruenigcon-man, is /usr/local/bin not in your PATH?12:10
tyme_not sure.12:10
ozzloynever mind, i figured it out12:10
DigitalNinjabruening: Thanks! That was it.12:10
ozzloythanks anyways though12:10
tyme_gnome-xgl-switch --disable-xgl12:10
bruenigjust do ps -A, figure out what the PID is, then do kill -i PID12:10
eyalw_i tried killall Xgl, i wont be stopped12:10
PHoeNiGoReHappy new year for gmt+1 ppl12:10
bruenigkill -9*12:10
tyme_gnome-xgl-switch --disable-xgl then restart your xserver12:11
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seanhi, total new user to Ubuntu here - anyone know how to get my screen res up to lovely 1920x1200?12:11
eyalw_i did kill -i PID too12:11
un_operateurtyme_, tab test it -- at your terminal -- gnome-xgl<TAB>  -- or better -- locate xgl | grep -i bin12:11
bruenig!fixres | sean12:11
ubotusean: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:11
arte_happy u too m812:11
tyme_eyalw_,  read up12:11
con-manbruenig: bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory12:11
arte_find out real kill xgl cmd cn stop it12:11
TimTurnipman, i love that bot12:11
bruenigcon-man, well try this, /usr/local/bin/wine whatever.exe12:11
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arte_wait ..12:12
bruenigcon-man, I don't understand why you compiled it, there is a bleeding edge wine repo12:12
arte_do u use beryl ?12:12
con-manbruenig: works12:12
bruenigcon-man, well just do that from now on then12:12
eyalw_yes12:12
con-manbruenig: can I fix it though?12:12
arte_one moment12:12
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bruenigcon-man, if open up /etc/environment, make sure that in the PATH you have /usr/local/bin12:12
bruenigif you*12:12
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arte_go to synaptic n unistall itv fuck out12:13
bruenig!language12:13
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:13
joinkam gonna die12:13
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joinki cant install anything12:13
PriceChildjoink: error?12:13
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joinkhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64/12:13
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eyalw_...?12:13
bruenigjoink, you realize that is all one one line12:14
arte_ubotu .. iot dead ghost .. lets strt12:14
arte_fantastic ..12:14
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arte_it talks12:14
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tyme_eyalw_,  get it fixed?12:14
joink? i dont understand u bruening12:14
arte_ cut my balls12:14
eyalw_tyme_: how?12:14
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tyme_..gnome-xgl-switch --disable-xgl restart12:14
bruenigjoink, that url you are sending us has the output all on one line12:14
eyalw_tyme_: i'm new in this12:15
tyme_then restart*12:15
arte_exactly .. how?12:15
bruenigjoink, very hard to read like that12:15
arte_:)12:15
tyme_type gnome-xgl-switch --disable-xgl in command line12:15
tyme_make sure youre root12:15
tannerldcan anyone help me and figure out why glxgears is not working along with any 3d games on my ati and fglrx?12:15
tyme_then type rcxdm restart12:15
arte_unninstall it it sucks xgl sucksw dfo u need extra problems ?12:15
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tyme_im running xgl with no problems12:15
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un_operateur!language | arte_12:16
ubotuarte_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:16
joinkworks at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/66/12:16
marcushi all quick noob question. my openoffice wordproc dosent activate the auto spellcheck. any ideas?12:17
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joinkbruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/66/12:17
bruenigjoink, it is still unreadable12:17
bruenigjoink, one short line and then one very long line12:17
arte_ubotu u fuckin bot ... i love u12:17
arte_:)12:17
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Infelizunraedable12:18
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Infeliztoo drunk12:18
tyme_goto bed12:18
tyme_bye.12:18
Jordan_UHybernate does not work for me.12:18
arte_ubotu im friendly al most i can12:18
ubotuim: mail/news handling commands and Perl modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:148-5 (edgy), package size 310 kB, installed size 1260 kB12:18
Infelizno way12:18
tyme_arte_, ubotu is a BOT12:18
tyme_!bot12:18
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:18
Infelizhah12:18
Infeliza12:18
Infelizh12:18
Infeliza12:18
arte_ppl why dont u celebrate nu year ?12:18
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x-r00t-x!java-dev12:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about java-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:19
arte_u r crazy ..12:19
Infeliziam celebrating it in IRC12:19
Infeliz.ddddddddddd12:19
tyme_..but why?12:19
Jordan_Uarte_: Why aren't you?12:19
MasterShrek!java-devel12:19
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about java-devel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:19
Infelizbcause12:19
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tyme_celibrating online in irc is pretty sad12:19
arte_am in12:19
tyme_depressing even.12:19
x-r00t-xhey tell me how do install java-dev?12:19
arte_but i interestedd about u12:19
dark_lighttyme_, yeah, but there are things more depressive12:19
bruenigcelebrating that an arbitrarily set division of time has elapsed is very odd indeed12:20
joinkthis is better sorry http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/67/12:20
MasterShrekx-r00t-x look at synaptic12:20
Infelizfriends breaked down whit me12:20
arte_its 1 am in my country all celebrating12:20
dark_lightand, well, instead, i try to negate any influence of new year in my life12:20
dark_light=)12:20
tyme_if you look at it that way, everything's odd.12:20
arte_am i in eu ?12:20
un_operateurx-r00t-x, java-dev?? don't think there is such a package12:20
crimsuntyme_, no sadder/more depressing than commenting about how sad/depressing it is on irc12:20
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joinkbruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/67/12:20
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x-r00t-xyes there is12:20
tyme_anyway, going to install ubuntu for the first time. not sure if it will detect my wireless card out of the box12:21
arte_root can wait ..12:21
bruenigjoink, I can't help you12:21
Jordan_U!info java-dev12:21
joinkthanks12:21
x-r00t-xun_operateur, its for javac command :)12:21
ubotuPackage java-dev does not exist in any distro I know12:21
dark_lightbtw, i wish to your a year quite opposite to your nick, Infeliz!12:21
arte_ubuntu is co0l12:21
x-r00t-xun_operateur, java jdk12:21
tyme_!info ipw220012:21
bruenigwhat are you java-dev people looking for12:21
un_operateurx-r00t-x, ha ha-- thats the JDK ..not java-dev :)12:21
ubotuPackage ipw2200 does not exist in any distro I know12:21
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joinksomebody help i cant install nothing12:21
Jordan_Ux-r00t-x: That would be the JDK12:21
dark_light(what a amusing nick)12:21
arte_but whatever12:21
bruenig!info sun-java5-jdk12:21
crimsuntyme_, ipw2200 is supported just fine.12:21
ubotusun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 4918 kB, installed size 11412 kB12:21
x-r00t-xoh tnx12:21
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un_operateur!sun-java5-jdk12:21
Music_Shufflejoink, you can't install NOTHING? Or you can't install ANYTHING/12:21
tyme_on suse i had to download the drivers from sf to get it working12:21
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Music_ShuffleHuge difference there, I assure you.12:22
tyme_(through ethernet)12:22
arte_'it wud be cool at january 2nd\12:22
joinkyeah i cant install anything12:22
Music_ShuffleLol12:22
wikitylerhello...I'm trying to add a printer via the cups web page, but i get asked for a user name and password. I tried my user name and password for the admin account, but it doesn't work. what's the beef?12:22
Music_ShuffleOk. What's the issue?12:22
joinkhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/67/12:22
x-r00t-xun_operateur, is it have javac command?12:22
MasterShrekwikityler try using root12:22
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Jordan_Ux-r00t-x: Yes12:22
x-r00t-xtnx :D12:22
ccidralany news about 64 bit version of Adobe Flash mozilla plugin?12:22
joink<Music_Shuffle> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/67/12:22
Music_ShuffleErr, this happens whenever you try to install -anything-?12:22
bruenigccidral, yeah, they aren't ever going to make one12:22
arte_u r computer fun u have no any celebrating no chrisdtmas nop nu year whats goin on ?12:23
ccidral:(12:23
joinkyep12:23
ccidralthat's sad12:23
bruenigbecause they really don't care about linux users, let alone the minority 64 biters12:23
arte_maniacs12:23
GoshaHappy new year ! ( late, but who cares :D )12:23
arte_have no words tro describe ..12:23
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Jordan_Uarte_: And trolling IRC on new years is less pathetic?12:23
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ryancan anyone help me?12:23
x-r00t-xun_operateur,12:23
x-r00t-x[~]  ->> $ sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk12:24
x-r00t-xE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)12:24
x-r00t-xE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?12:24
wikitylerMasterShrek: root doesn't work12:24
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bruenigx-r00t-x, close synaptic12:24
dark_lightGosha, not here : )12:24
bruenigryan, you haven't asked a question12:24
un_operateurx-r00t-x, have you not learnt about the pastebin? :|12:24
arte_in my opinion nu yrs is very important12:24
ryanok12:24
x-r00t-xoopse12:24
ryanso I'm playing a game12:24
x-r00t-xyeah sorry12:24
PriceChild!offtopic | arte_12:24
ubotuarte_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:24
Music_Shuffle!offtopic | arte12:24
ubotuarte: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:24
Music_ShuffleI WIN!12:24
GottferDamntHappy new year from paris !12:24
ryanI switched to tty1 so I could get some work done when I wasn't playing12:24
arte_its no reasons to sit on mopmnbitor12:24
Magusknightwhere can i find SiS drivers?12:24
PriceChildMusic_Shuffle: i was quicker on my screen ;)12:24
Music_ShuffleErrr...curses. You won PriceChild :(12:24
bruenigon my screen I have PriceChild beating you Music_Shuffle12:24
un_operateurx-r00t-x, close down all other APT programs and try again12:24
arte_\monitor i mean12:24
Music_ShuffleI know. But in my head I WIN!12:24
Music_Shuffle:P12:24
ryanbut every time, just after i login, the game exists back to fluxbox12:25
ryanand the mouse doesn't work 'till I restart the xserver12:25
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Music_Shufflearte_, then get outa here. Some people need help opening the new year with Ubuntu.12:25
arte_ok i too drunk to talk sorry12:25
ryanwhat's wrong and how may I fix it?12:25
arte_but12:25
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arte_i cud help12:25
x-r00t-xun_operateur, yeah its working . its will take 2 hour+ to download . at 3/4 kbps12:25
ryanbrb12:25
ryantesting it again12:25
arte_music12:25
bruenigryan, is there any reason why you can't use a terminal12:25
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x-r00t-xun_operateur, i mean 32 kbps12:25
arte_i cud help12:25
joinkhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/67/12:25
x-r00t-xlol12:25
arte_iof it needs12:25
Music_ShuffleUhh. I can barely understand you as is. >.>12:25
un_operateurx-r00t-x, you can always install GCJ instead (smaller packages)12:26
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arte_u dont understand12:26
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ryanok, I can open two xservers12:26
x-r00t-xun_operateur, gcj? what is that?12:26
ryanthat'll work for now12:26
un_operateur!info gcj12:26
ubotugcj: The GNU Java compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.1-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 48 kB12:26
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arte_u canbt mess ce;ebrate with help12:26
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bruenigarte_, go help the people in #ubuntu-offtopic12:27
Music_Shuffle...there needs to be a rule against drunkenly being in a support channel :P12:27
IndyGunFreakMusic_Shuffle, lol12:27
arte_u can't mess celebrate with help on computer thing12:27
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x-r00t-xun_operateur, lol its 1 mb bigger than jdk12:27
bruenigarte_ isn't drunk, he is playing it up too much12:27
IndyGunFreakMusic_Shuffle, refer all drunks to ubuntu-offtopic12:27
arte_ok ill help ppl tomorow12:27
IndyGunFreakwe like them12:27
PriceChildarte_: #ubuntu-newyears please12:27
arte_ur rite im too drunk12:27
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Music_Shufflearte_, please do return to helping tomorrow.12:28
un_operateurx-r00t-x, errm, I remember it being about 50MiB less when i installed it12:28
arte_cy guys12:28
Music_ShuffleOr at least after you sleep it off.12:28
Music_ShuffleCya.12:28
joinknobody can12:28
joinkjejeje12:28
joinkis ok12:28
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arte_dont remember nu year is very important!12:28
bruenigun_operateur, for it to be 50 MB less, it would have to -39 MB12:28
arte_cheers12:28
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joinknew year dont exist12:28
arte_:)12:28
joinkbye12:29
ccidralcheers12:29
un_operateurbruenig, eh?12:29
arte_joink u r jerk12:29
PriceChildargh... #freenode-newyears sorry12:29
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Infeliznew year is fucked up12:29
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arte_c y12:29
Music_Shuffle!language12:29
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:29
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arte_mAybe if u r depressd12:29
bruenig /ignore *!*@89.116.27.18912:29
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Infeliz !langue12:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about langue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:29
joinkvery unfriendly friends12:29
konamsee you all12:29
IndyGunFreak!sensitive | Music_Shuffle12:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sensitive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:29
hendrickvpademan, do you know if GD2 toolkit is in ubuntu?12:29
Music_Shuffle;)12:29
konamand a happy NYE12:29
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Music_ShuffleIndyGunFreak, its interfering with him leaving! :P12:29
Infeliz!shutup!12:30
IndyGunFreaklol12:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about shutup! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:30
joinkjerk your mother semi arte12:30
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arte_go to neartest psychiatr12:30
Music_Shuffle...12:30
ccidralthe coolest part of the new year time is the beverages12:30
Infeliz--12:30
arte_c y12:30
ccidralare*12:30
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hendrickvpDoes anyone know if GD2 is in Ubuntu Server?12:30
ccidral2 hours and a half for new year... time to start drinking beer12:30
IndyGunFreakGD2?12:30
un_operateurhendrickvp, GD2 as in GD, the graphics toolkit?12:30
Music_ShuffleLjL, in 07, are yeh?12:30
hendrickvpyeah12:31
Infelizccidral: where12:31
IndyGunFreakI don't know what GD1 is, ..lol12:31
Infelizccidral: where12:31
ccidralI'm from Brazil12:31
Infelizccidral: where12:31
hendrickvpun_operateur: is the an apt-get for it?12:31
Infelizok12:31
un_operateurhendrickvp, errm,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gd2&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all12:31
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ccidraland you?12:31
Infelizfinland12:31
gamerchadhi everyone!  I just managed to get dual monitors sorta working, but I have this problem where gnome panel crashes.  It says that it detects another instance of itself and then exits.  Anyone know what's up with that?12:32
ccidralcheers... let's drink12:32
villerport forwarding=NAT mapping?12:32
un_operateurhendrickvp, maybe this one -- libgd2-xpm12:32
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Aar0n444Hi12:33
un_operateurviller, are you asking if they are the same?12:33
Music_Shuffle!hi | Aar0n44412:33
ubotuAar0n444: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!12:33
villerun_operateur: yes12:33
hendrickvpun_operateur: I'm looking at it12:33
un_operateurviller, well, yes, it's a uni-directional NApT -- network address/port translation12:34
Aar0n444I know I need a command to boot ubuntu on my laptop, and I used to have it working, along with my WiFi card too. But now, I try one or two commands and the WiFi card won't work. What commands could I try to boot?12:34
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villerun_operateur: so when I "map" I am forwarding ports as they call it?12:34
hendrickvpun_operateur: so i would just download and install into the corresponding files...?12:35
ap0cqhi12:35
un_operateurviller, map is a very loose term, isn't it? depends on what you mean, really12:35
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Grok_how would i find out what the $arch (Kn) be if the cpu is listed as "Mobile AMD Athlon XP-M"?12:35
un_operateurhendrickvp, if you apt-get install libgd2-xpm, you should have everything you need12:35
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villerun_operateur: when I'm talking about NAT commands12:35
hendrickvpoh.... easy enough12:36
crimsunGrok_, uname -m12:36
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Grok_crimsun, thank you very much12:36
mineralewhen I'm doing a ./configure on a program that requires the perl libraries, how would one provide the path to the perl libraries?12:36
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hendrickvpsorry, I did not know what I was really looking at.12:36
Jordan_UHybernate does not work for me12:37
Keeguonhey I'm trying to compile fleow plugin for Banshee but it says "No package 'tao-opengl' found" what can I do12:37
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un_operateurviller, if you implement NAT, you are not portforwarding because NAT operates with IP/Network Addresses .. but when you port-forward, you need to have a "NAT" map for the outside port to be directed to an inside address, so NAT is necessary for port-forwarding but not vice-versa12:37
ap0cqhaving trouble getting wlan0 to come up with a Belkin desktop card F5D7001, tutorials not working12:38
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un_operateurminerale, I think you can modify the PERL5LIB environmental variable12:39
seani'm having a bit of bother fixing my screen resolution above 1024x768, the first part of the tutorial at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto isn't working for me12:39
imbecilewhat is the name of the firewall whos icon look like a biohazard symbol?12:39
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ap0cqcan mount driver with indiswrapper and get "driver present, hardware present " but i dont detect wlan0 after that12:39
un_operateurminerale, do you want to specify new paths to a perl program -- or determine what directories the perl libs exist in?12:39
seanhow do i tell ubuntu to auto detect my video card?12:40
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x-r00t-xi installed php with php package . and how do install sockets module?12:41
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x-r00t-xun_operateur, can you give me idea about it?12:41
oidiasean: what card is it?12:41
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un_operateurminerale, I think this command is what you need -  perl -le 'print for @INC'12:42
protocol1is there a way to force install a deb?12:42
protocol1via console12:42
oidiaseanj: the most common are found att www.ubuntuguide.org12:42
un_operateurx-r00t-x, sockets module? errm, to do what kinds of stuff?12:42
oidiahapy new year btw12:42
ap0cqanyone here have the same problem that can help me?12:42
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x-r00t-xun_operateur, run php scripts from terminal12:43
base_16protocol1: dpkg -i --force-all?12:43
Noobwhat is this theme http://www.tuxresources.org/blog/winlin/Linux/menu-iniciar.jpg ?12:43
un_operateurx-r00t-x, if you want to run php scripts from the CLI, you need the php-cli package12:43
legal_confusionI seem to be getting my *** kicked on trying to get my xfx 7900GT to show up as a dual head?12:43
x-r00t-xun_operateur, what is cli?12:43
Grok_command line interface12:44
un_operateurx-r00t-x, that was php5-cli .. my bad12:45
x-r00t-xun_operateur, can you tell me where is the php.ini located at ?12:45
x-r00t-xno prob un_operateur12:45
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un_operateurx-r00t-x, locate php.ini :)12:45
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x-r00t-xheh tnx un_operateur12:46
atomaanyone know of a good place to learn how install a SMP kernal? howto docs etc... (kernal swapping virgin here, and its a little spooky)12:46
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un_operateuratoma, is your CPU a SMP processor tho? no point otherwise12:47
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Jordan_Uatoma: The generic kernel has smp support12:47
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base_16Jordan_U: only if it's compiled in12:47
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Jordan_Ubase_16: It is12:47
atomayea...4cpu server ATM... P3 era Xens....12:47
Jordan_U( I am talking about the ubuntu "generic" kernel )12:47
elyonMasterShrek - just wanted to let you know that installing the older ATI drivers fixed the problem.  Thanks again for your help!12:48
base_16Jordan_U: that depends on if he's talking about the default ubuntu one or if he's compiling from vanilla12:48
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base_16though i do believe SMP is checked on by default these days12:48
MasterShreknp elyon12:48
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Jordan_UAnybody have any ideas for troubleshooting hybernation problems12:49
Jordan_U?12:49
x-r00t-xun_operateur,12:49
x-r00t-x have time to help at the moment, sorry. My server requires my immediate attention.12:49
crimsunJordan_U, more specifically?12:49
x-r00t-xoops12:49
x-r00t-xi am sorry for that12:49
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x-r00t-xun_operateur, bash: php: command not found12:49
un_operateurx-r00t-x, did you install php5-cli ?12:49
x-r00t-xnope :-S12:50
Jordan_Ucrimsun: I just get a blinking white cursor and I have to switch to a tty and shut down when I try to hybernate from gnome12:50
x-r00t-xi got it now :P12:50
un_operateurx-r00t-x, duhh12:50
un_operateur:))12:50
x-r00t-xsorry :P12:50
MasterShrekJordan_U acpi is still not perfected, i dont think ive ever had a box actually work with hibernate and such12:50
Jordan_Ucrimsun: I used to get an error that I did not have enough memory12:50
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atomaJordan_U: Its the stock ubuntu kernel12:51
crimsunJordan_U, have you checked if your specific laptop has known issues suspending to disk with the version of Ubuntu you're using?12:51
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Jordan_UMasterShrek: It worked when I first innstalled12:51
alex_man... I just install ubuntu on my laptop with aiglx and beryl12:51
MasterShrekdid u upgrade?12:51
alex_it's awesome.12:51
Jordan_Uatoma: Yes12:51
x-r00t-xEID MUBARAK EVERYONE and HAPPY NEW YEAR . i gotta go sleep its 5:51 am ....12:51
Jordan_Ucrimsun: I have not found any info either way about it ( macbook pro )12:52
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Jordan_Ucrimsun: But it did work at one point12:52
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noldon!php12:55
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)12:55
lovlossany idea why my refresh went from 81 to 55 when i installed the new nvidia driver?12:55
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crimsunJordan_U, you haven't found any at all? That seems difficult to fathom...12:56
crimsunJordan_U, in any case, what you'd want is dmesg output12:56
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Jordan_Ucrimsun: Anything specific I should be greping for?01:00
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ChesManAnyone here very good with byrel?01:00
ChesManerr beryl01:01
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Jordan_UChesMan: #beryl or #ubuntu-xgl01:01
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ChesMancool thank you01:01
ChesManwasnt sure of the channel name01:01
breeze-desktopgood night01:01
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phr34ckHey, how can I use 1280x1024 resolution ?01:02
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Jordan_Uphr34ck: What video card?01:03
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phr34ckATI X60001:03
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Jordan_Uphr34ck: Using fglrx?01:03
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phr34ckI used to have that resolution when I was using Windows ... I think it was 1280x800 or something like that.01:03
phr34ckJordan_U,  no idea.01:04
Jordan_U!ati01:04
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:04
noldonit is possible to do so only minimized windows is shown in the lower panel in ubuntu?01:04
phr34ckHow can I check >?01:04
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Jordan_Uphr34ck: It is something you have to install yourself, so if you don't know you probably don't have the drivers :)01:04
phr34ckI downloaded the fglrx but it's .rpm file.01:05
phr34ckShould I use Alien to transform it to .deb file and install ?01:05
Jordan_Uphr34ck: NO!01:05
Seveasphr34ck, no01:05
Keeguonhey I'm trying to compile fleow plugin for Banshee but it says "No package 'tao-opengl' found" what can I do?01:05
Seveas!fglrx | phr34ck01:05
ubotuphr34ck: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:05
phr34ckWhat am I suppose to do then >01:05
phr34ck?*01:05
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Jordan_Uphr34ck: It is available in the ubuntu repositories, use the instructions ubotu gave01:05
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noldoncan i make so only minimized windows is showned in the lower panel?01:06
phr34ckJordan_U,  I think I downloaded it based on that webpage, if I remember correctly.01:07
rzlistHas anyone seen the atheros (ath_pci) module hanging a system using a Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 motherboard using Edgy?01:07
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Jordan_Uphr34ck: Do you know what a package manager is ?01:07
phr34ckapt ?01:08
Jordan_Uphr34ck: Yes.01:08
base_16why is greenland on UTC?01:08
base_16oops, wrong channel01:08
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phr34ckI only know this: apt-get to get packages.01:08
phr34ckbut I have no idea how it works, why it's there and the like.01:08
phr34ckI just know that it's used to download stuff.01:08
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Jordan_Uphr34ck: Ok, I am just confused how you got a .rpm file?01:09
bypAnyone have any problems with devices no longer being recognized?01:09
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phr34ckJordan_U,  from ati.com01:09
phr34ckThey said it's the Linux driver.01:09
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rzlistbyp: it sounds like a module issue.. what has changed on your system?01:10
LinAsHphr34ck, you must download the .run driver01:10
awilcoxOkay I have problems, first of all it's 64-bit Kubuntu, I know 64-bit distros are bad so I've heard, but just I hope you will try to help me anyways.01:10
Jordan_Uphr34ck: Ahh, try the ones from apt first, they install automatically and have a .deb ( using alien can mess things up )01:10
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MasterShrekawilcox 64 distros are awesome01:10
bypWell, I used shred on sda, then I partitioned and formatted it, but then it no longer was recognized, nor any other device01:10
awilcoxI screwed up the mount points, /tmp got the /home partition and /home got the /tmp partition01:10
wasabi_awilcox: They aren't bad if you stick to 100% free software.01:10
phr34ckLinAsH, what's the that?01:10
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ShayGuyHaldo. N00b here.01:11
MasterShrekawilcox look at /etc/fstab01:11
phr34ckThe thing is that I don't want it to install automaticaly, I want to do it.01:11
rzlistI'm running 64 bit ubuntu.. it runs great (with the exception of the atheros driver)01:11
bypSyslog showed that it was there, recognnized, but /dev didn't show it01:11
awilcoxSo I mounted them to different folders, cp -r'd everything on the /tmp partiton to /home2 (the real /home parition) and rebooted01:11
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phr34ckI mean, the hole idea of me switching to Linux is because I want to do everything, and so I understand what's going on.01:11
awilcoxnow it works, obviously, in command prompt mode01:11
ShayGuyDownloaded a LiveCD yesterday, and couldn't connect to the internet with Ubuntu...01:11
LinAsHit's a script that build the .deb package for the ati driver01:11
rzlistbyp: did they show up using lsmod?01:11
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awilcoxbut in graphics mode, when I type the password, the screen goes black and then it brings me back to the password prompt01:11
bypLet me check01:11
LinAsHphr34ck, what's your ati card ?01:12
awilcoxMasterShrek yeah I already messed with that, and I got it to mount properly01:12
awilcoxI checked all the permissions and stuff like that01:12
ShayGuyI'm on a wireless connection; not sure what type the router is...01:12
phr34ckX60001:12
phr34ckmobility01:12
bypSorry, what exactly am I looking for with lsmod here? :P01:12
phr34cktis a lappy.01:12
Jordan_Uphr34ck: In debian based systems you generally don't want to install things manually, and IMHO you probably won't learn much from it.01:12
rzlistbyp: what device did you lose?01:12
LattyHappy New Year All.01:12
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Latty(In England, at least)01:12
awilcoxHappy New Year, Latty.  :D01:12
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byprzlist: any that were plugged in, such as sda and sdb01:13
phr34ckJordan_U,  at least I should understand how it works .. don't you think ?01:13
phr34ckI mean, how does the apt works?>01:13
phr34ckWhat's happening under the hood ?01:13
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awilcoxphr34ck, under the hood it's calling dpkg01:13
rzlistbyp: are these SATA or scsi devices?01:13
phr34ckwhat's that?01:14
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__mikemphr34ck, all apt does is connect to the url's in your sources.list file, and finds a package file and downloadds and installs it01:14
bypOH, sorry, they're flash drives, so SCSI, I think01:14
Jordan_Uphr34ck: You would probably learn more reading the man pages ( again just my opinion ) I can find a good tutorial for doing it manually though if you still want to.01:14
awilcoxphr34ck, under THAT hood it's decompressing the .deb file and installing it to the paths that it's told to, kind of like a ZIP file on Windows with paths, but .deb instead01:14
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phr34ckI see.01:14
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awilcoxphr34ck run    man dpkg   from the Konsole01:14
byprzlist: well, _technically_ not SCSI, but I heard from somewhere that sd* would be that01:14
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awilcoxoh sorry -- terminal, not konsole :D01:14
phr34ckI seriously need to get used to that man command ... but the b*** gives like 300 lines per command.01:15
phr34ckThat's tooooo much *Sighs*01:15
rzlistbyp: these are probably USB storage devices.. are they USB plug-ins?01:15
auTONYmousphr34ck: sorry I'm late on this question...I understand you have an ATI X600, right?01:15
byprzlist: Excuse me?01:15
phr34ckATI mobility X600, using my laptop.01:15
auTONYmousand you're having probs getting ATI's driver to work?01:15
rzlistbyp: are these little usb sticks?01:15
byprzlist: yes01:15
phr34ckI didn't try yet, all I did is that I downloaded a .rpm file from ati.com and I have no idea how to make it install.01:16
rzlistbyp: then use: lsmod | grep usb01:16
auTONYmousOh, okay. The RPM probably won't work for you.01:16
Jordan_UauTONYmous: We are more going over manually installing vs installing from apt / learning Linux in generall.01:16
rzlistbyp: usb_storage should be shown as loaded01:16
awilcoxSo um, what to do for password loops?  as in, when I boot, it asks for the password.  I enter it, it goes black for a second, then asks for it again.  I think it has something to do with the Xorg.conf file but I'm not really sure what could be wrong with it.  this is a new install, just installed today.  before installing I ran hard disk diagnostics, memory tests, everything to make sure that this computer was performing in tip-top shape.01:16
byprzlist: what output do you want?01:16
byprzlist: it's there01:16
auTONYmousYou either need ATI's .run file or you need to use the one in the repos01:16
LinAsHphr34ck, the current driver doesn't support 3D ?01:16
phr34ckyeah, I figured. I was told that I could use ALIEN to convert, but that is not a good thing. Don't know why.01:16
bypusb_storage            74304  001:17
Jordan_U!alien01:17
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)01:17
auTONYmousthat enver worked for me either...FYI01:17
auTONYmousnever01:17
phr34ckLinAsH, what do you mean ?01:17
auTONYmous< --- ATI X300 on a lappy01:17
phr34ckEverything is working fine at the moment, but I want a higher resolution. Currently, I can only use 1024x700 something, and that's just unbarable since I have 15.4" wide screen.01:17
rzlistbyp: that means device is not connected..01:17
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byprzlist: well, there are two devices connected01:18
phr34ckI need at least 1280 in order to get comfortable with the resolution.01:18
awilcoxphr34ck: FYI it's 1024x768, and you're probably wanting 1280x76801:18
rzlistbyp: check dmesg when you unplug and replug the usb stick01:18
witlesswhere do i add ~/bin to my path ?01:18
bypaight01:18
auTONYmousdid you look at the /var/log/Xorg.log file?01:18
phr34ckEverything si soo big, and websites are not rendered correctly "Fonts are soo damn small, or soo damn big"01:18
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awilcoxwitless, ~/bin  or  /bin ?01:18
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witlessawilcox: ~/bin01:18
phr34ckawilcox,  bingo my friend.01:18
byp[17192568.604000]  usb 4-8: USB disconnect, address 1601:18
auTONYmousIf you hvae I2c or DDC turned on, you'll see what the monitor's suppported resolutions are in there.01:19
bypdisconnect...01:19
balzachello01:19
phr34ckso I thought I could update the driver so I can get that resolution ?01:19
awilcoxwitless, somewhere in your .bashrc IIRC01:19
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byprzlist: nothing on connect01:19
LinAsHwell if you have 3d support with the free driver why bother with the proprietary one ?01:19
phr34ckI was told once to configure something with x.org or something, I did put that resoltuion but it's not coming up01:19
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balzaci'm trying to share a directory of my ubuntu machine with my windows machine01:19
Rageagainstthisis there a way to find out my ip address from terminal.  Not the ip that is given by the router but from my isp.01:19
auTONYmousmodelines could be off...01:19
rzlistbyp: try: modprobe usb_storage01:19
balzaci want to ping my windows machine from my linux machine to check if they're connected01:19
noldoni just installed php5 and mysql and when i create a .php file in /var/www and try it it just wanna download it instead of show it in firefox01:19
Jordan_ULinAsH: He isn't getting full resolution01:19
awilcoxHow often can you repeat a question on this channel without being considered a pest?01:19
legal_confusionhow about some help with the nvidia drivers and dual monitors, with seperate X servers ? I have successfully installed the nvidia drivers....01:20
witlessawilcox: this isn't getting picked up with gdm01:20
byprzlist: nothing returned01:20
auTONYmouscheck the log file to see what the motnitor is reporting as supported res, versus what the driver is using01:20
phr34ckwhat does Fakeroot do? I saw it twice today.01:20
rzlistbyp: use: depmod -a, then modprobe usb_storage01:20
awilcoxnoldon, check the Ubuntu Wiki, it's a "normal" problem if you can call it that01:20
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awilcox!tell noldon about lamp01:20
LinAsHphr34ck, can you post your /etc/xorg.conf in pastbin.com ?01:20
phr34cksure, will do.01:20
byprzlist: done, but no results still01:21
awilcoxphr34ck, fakeroot makes dpkg THINK that it is running as root/superuser when it really isn't -- for more info, man fakeroot :D01:21
phr34ckmeh01:21
auTONYmousphr34ck: post your /var/log/Xorg.log also01:21
awilcoxwitless what are you trying to do?01:21
phr34ckis that a command ?01:21
bypLinux *** 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Dec 8 17:51:56 UTC 2006 i68601:21
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awilcoxphr34ck yeah but you would have to install fakeroot first01:21
rzlistbyp: what brand of USB storage is it?01:21
phr34ckI can't find xorg.conf01:21
phr34ckit's not there .01:21
awilcoxphr34ck /etc/X11/Xorg.conf01:22
legal_confusion/etc/X11/01:22
awilcoxwith a captial X01:22
awilcox*X*org.conf01:22
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byprzlist: any USB device I plug in, iPod, sandisk cruzer, etc.01:22
witlessawilcox: when i start gnome-terminal, i want ~/bin to be in my path01:22
awilcoxUNIX/Linux is case sensitive, phr34ck01:22
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auTONYmousbrb01:22
awilcoxwitless what shell do you use?  BASH?  CSH?  korn?  something else?  or just the default one (which would be BASH, BTW)01:22
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byprzlist: all I did was run shred on my flash drive, then fdisked it, and then mkdosfs01:23
witlessawilcox: bash01:23
kitcheawilcox: actually the default in ubuntu is dash01:23
byprzlist: I had missing superblock errors, then everything went downhill01:23
phr34ckOkay, I have opened the file with nano.01:23
awilcoxkitche O_o is that like some BASH offshoot or something?01:23
phr34ckhow can select all and copy ?01:23
crimsunkitche, awilcox, the default -system- shell is dash, but the default -user- shell is still bash01:23
LinAsHphr34ck,  open it with gedit01:23
byprzlist: udev too01:23
gnomefreakkitche: only in edgy and newer01:23
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Jordan_Ukitche: That is the default sh, not the default shell, a subtle but important difference :)01:23
rzlistbyp: let me check and I'll be back01:24
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DigitalNinjahow do I get the system to read the partition table?01:24
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Innomenhi all. trying to put ubuntu on a thinkpad 600, it says invalid compression "error 2" and "kernel panic" is there a way to simply install it to the drive without ahveing to load it into memory or some other work around?01:24
awilcoxJordan_U Ahhh, sh-3.1 is dash okay got it thanks :)01:24
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kitcheJordan_U: sorry but I consider sh as shell since sh is a shell01:24
phr34ckmeh01:25
kitcheah dash is based on ash01:25
phr34ckI have to install *missing plugins* in firefox *Sighs*01:25
Jordan_Ukitche: awilcox: what I mean is that if you open gnome terminal or a tty you get Bash.01:25
AscInnomen: Yes, use the alternate install CD.  But I can't promise it'll work any better when you go to start it.01:25
Innomenany ideas anyone?01:25
noldon!apache201:25
ubotuapache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 35 kB, installed size 80 kB01:25
awilcoxif I pastebin *my* Xorg.conf will somebody look at it?01:25
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Innomenasc: alternate install cd? what would i put in google to find that01:25
LinAsHphr34ck,  for pastebin.com ?01:26
rzlistbyp: Have you tried rebooting the box to see if it made a difference?01:26
phr34ckyeah01:26
phr34ckflash player01:26
awilcoxand um, how to pastebin something without using graphics mode, since this is the problem?01:26
byprzlist: that usually fixes the problem01:26
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awilcoxphr34ck oh those are only ads just screw them (can you tell I hate flash yet?  :) )01:26
byprzlist: found this in syslog01:26
LinAsHphr34ck, there is no flash !01:26
bypDec 31 17:17:38 localhost kernel: [17188908.920000]  usb-storage: device scan complete01:26
bypDec 31 17:18:31 localhost kernel: [17188962.000000]   10:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device01:26
Jordan_Uawilcox: You could try upstream ( #upstream ) .01:27
ShayGuyI have an Ubuntu LiveCD, but I couldn't connect to the internet with it. I'm currently running Windows. I'm on my home wireless network, using my laptop. The wireless router is a D-Link. How do I need to configure Ubuntu?01:27
AscInnomen: It should be around the same place you find the normal CD.  I'll try and locate the page, but my internets are slow.01:27
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bypDec 31 17:18:31 localhost kernel: [17188962.000000]  FAT: bread failed in fat_clusters_flush01:27
phr34ckisn't the website http://pastebin.com ?01:27
Innomendont worry i'll find it01:27
Innomenthank you very much :)01:27
gRaCiOsOhow can i execute dbmix i have installed it with apt-get ?01:27
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awilcoxJordan_U for what?!  I'm using Dapper not Feisty01:27
kitcheJordan_U: ok well I understand it now since dash actually got rid of sh I just read the page on it even though it seems to break shell scripts alot if the script doesn't do #!/bin/bash01:27
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AscInnomen: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/01:27
rzlistbyp: well.. if the linux kernel does not find a valid media then it will ignore it.. and this is probably what happend.01:27
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Innomenahhh thank you01:28
LinAsHphr34ck, yes, very odd01:28
Innomeni was on that page but yoiu still beat me to it heheh01:28
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AscFear my 56k01:28
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noldondo i need apache to use apache2?01:28
awilcoxAsc hahahahahahahahaha01:28
phr34cksomething is wrong.01:28
phr34ckIt's opening adv. website01:28
byprzlist: however, when this happenedDec 31 17:47:32 localhost kernel: [17190703.156000]  sd 13:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sda01:28
AscGood luck getting it working, in any case.01:28
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byprzlist: it was still  not working01:28
phr34ckRelated Categories01:29
awilcoxphr34ck, tell me it's Windows, then there are excuses (e.g. spyware)01:29
phr34ckChat and Forum01:29
phr34ckChat Avenue01:29
phr34ckFilipino Chat Rooms01:29
phr34ckKids Chat Online01:29
phr34ckFree Chat Rooms for Kids01:29
phr34ckGolf Chat01:29
elyonDoes anyone know of a good Bible software for Linux?01:29
byprzlist: nothing in /dev01:29
phr34ckand stuff like htat.01:29
__mikem!ops01:29
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!01:29
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phr34ckI can finally say it's UBUNTU BABY !!01:29
LinAsHphr34ck, my first adress was wrong01:29
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awilcoxelyon, (this is a joke), cat /dev/bible?01:29
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witlesscat /dev/random01:29
LinAsHit's pastebin.com and not pastbin.com01:29
byprzlist: however, using mknod sda1 b 8 1, then mounting, it worked01:29
Seveaselyon, gnomesword01:29
rzlistbyp: Ubuntu usually creates a mounting entry under /media.. did it create one?01:29
elyonThanks, Seveas.01:29
byprzlist: no01:30
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awilcoxgnomefreak, um just asking, wasn't that a little harsh?  Not that I condone pastes inside the channel, and my God I must be brave to question an op, but still?  now he doesn't know he's on the wrong address...so he can't fix the problem01:30
byprzlist: a reboot should take care of all this - I just want to know what the problem is so I can avoid it in the future01:30
byprzlist: thanks01:30
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elyonhmm... Can't Install GnomeSword because there is conflicting software?01:31
rzlistbyp: good luck..01:31
__mikemawilcox, he was spamming01:31
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awilcoxelyon, actually it's GnomesWord, like you know, The Word, and what package is conflicting?01:31
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__mikemwell, he aint banned anymore.01:31
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awilcox__mikem he was pasting what he saw -- or was there a previous problem with him?01:32
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noldonhow do i setup apache2?01:32
con-mancd ..01:32
con-manoops01:32
con-manwrong window01:32
awilcoxcon-man hehe01:32
con-man:D01:32
__mikemawilcox, when I see a whole bunch of lines including the words FIlipino Chat, I can only assume01:32
awilcox__mikem hahahaha yeah I understand :)01:32
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elyonawilcox - Synaptic says it depends on "libsword5c2a" but it is not installable.01:33
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fr500hello01:33
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fr500how can i make gksudo apps use the same theme as my normal apps01:33
awilcoxhmm...have you ran   sudo apt-get update   lately, elyon?01:33
fr500like gdebi, etherreal, etc01:33
CATS_CEO!packages01:33
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elyonawilcox - yesterday.  I'll try it again.01:33
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awilcoxfr500 change the theme of the root user, I'm not sure how but it's doable, wait for someone more knowledgeable01:34
elyonalwilcox - although, isn't that the same as clicking "Reload" in Synaptic?01:34
fr500ok01:34
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awilcoxelyon not sure, I don't use GUI tools for package management01:34
phr34ckhttp://pastebin.com/84873901:34
snowflakeThe screen just turned pink.01:34
phr34ckthat's my xorg file01:34
snowflakeHow do I fix this, please?01:35
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phr34cktake a look people, and tell me how to edit it so I can use my resolution.01:35
awilcoxsnowflake, wheeee!  pink!  Now, what did you do?  and what part is pink?  does it have a pink tint, is one program pink, or the whole thing?01:35
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elyonawilcox, okay, I ran that and tried again... still says its uninstallable.01:35
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snowflakeThe whole screen is pinkish, please.01:35
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awilcoxelyon, hmm you may have to add multiverse, not sure, do you have multiverse?01:35
snowflakeNow, it's not pink but it sometimes turns pinkish.01:35
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ShayGuyI have an Ubuntu LiveCD, but I couldn't connect to the internet with it. I'm currently running Windows. I'm on my home wireless network, using my laptop. The wireless router is a D-Link. How do I need to configure Ubuntu?01:36
awilcoxsnowflake, this sounds like a monitor problem...or an IGP problem, but not a Linux problem.01:36
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elyonawilcox - I've had that enabled for a while.01:36
LinAsHphr34ck, at line 93 the driver is vesa : it should be radeon01:36
noldon!group01:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about group - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:36
phr34ckcan I transform .tar.gz files into .deb files ?01:36
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snowflakeIt didn't happen in Windows XP, please.01:36
noldonhow do i found out the group name in ubuntu01:36
kitchephr34ck: those are "usually" source tarballs01:36
Innomensnowflake it didnt happen in xp THEN01:36
melonin the synaptic package manager (or anywhere else) - is it possible to see what programs/resources/stuff that i've personally added? i'd like to go on a cleanup mission w/o actually breaking things that shouldn't be messed with01:37
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awilcoxphr34ck no, but you can run tar -xzf filename.tar.gz and it will make a directory, then it will probably have something like ./configure, then make, then make install01:37
snowflakeInnomen: I haven't changed my monitor, please.01:37
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Innomenit may have happened in xp NOW, hardware fails pretty much at random01:37
awilcoxInnomen, do you still HAVE Winxp installed?01:37
phr34ckawilcox, thanks.01:37
awilcoxphr34ck np :)01:37
awilcoxsorry01:38
awilcoxsnowflake, do you still HAVE Winxp installed?01:38
phr34ckLinAsH, that's the only thing I should change ?01:38
Innomeni resintalled a machine for a friend, and his sound died, he blamed me, truned out it was the speaker randomly dieing01:38
LinAsHphr34ck, yes01:38
snowflakeawilcox: No.01:38
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Innomenawilcox, yes? but i'm not asking for help at the moment, ASC sqaured me away01:38
elyonawilcox - Any other ideas?01:38
awilcoxsnowflake well I'd put it back on and see if it works01:38
fr500!root01:38
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:38
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fr500!roottheme01:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about roottheme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:38
fr500!theme01:38
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy01:38
awilcoxInnomen sorry I was directing it to snowflake, sorry :)01:38
fr500!changethemes01:39
ubotuInstall gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=301:39
Innomennp you confuzzled me :P01:39
phr34ckshould I reset something, or something ?01:39
LinAsHphr34ck, for this use the 'root' mode with 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'01:39
Innomen14 minutes till alternate is downloaded01:39
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Innomenyay!01:39
awilcoxelyon you may need to add more sources, or distupgrade to edgy :-( , but I'm really not sure01:39
snowflakeYou sure there isn't a program that turns your whole screen pinkish? Strange thing is, it only happens in my account. My brother doesn't get this problem, please.01:39
Innomenthat whole "01:40
Innomenplease" thing is getting old heheh01:40
melonlol01:40
Innomenmust be a language thing01:40
LinAsHphr34ck, logout and then press alt+ctrl+backspace01:40
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elyonawilcox - I'm running Edgy right now, if that's what you mean.01:40
phr34ckLinAsH, that's what I did, yes.01:40
phr34ckbut still I cannot use the resolution: 1280x76801:40
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awilcoxheh yeah, but on old kids shows I remember once there was some character that always ended EVERY sentence with "please" it would drive me insane01:40
phr34ckI won't lose this session if I did so ?01:40
dom_can someone help me get my wifi working?01:40
snowflakeNo way to solve this problem, please?01:40
Innomenweird resolution01:40
Innomenwhy use it?01:41
meloni've had my monitor go pink.. it was broken..01:41
awilcoxelyon, hmm maybe it needs Dapper01:41
LinAsHphr34ck, yeah but that's the price ;)01:41
Innomensnowflake: delet your account and make a new one? i dont know how you would do that it just a general suggestion01:41
dom_is there any way to reset network settings to default?01:41
phr34ckInnomen, I'm using a 15.4" screen (laptop), it's the best resolution.01:41
awilcoxsnowflake, one question: do you have different resolutions for each of the accounts?01:41
Innomenahhhh01:41
phr34ckLinAsH, the hell I won't. I'll wait till the updates are finished.01:41
Innomeni understand01:41
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awilcoxInnomen :D01:42
Innomen11 mins01:42
awilcoxgood maybe you can help me with my problem01:42
LinAsHphr34ck, you should indeed !01:42
=== phr34ck hands Innomen a cookie for smart people.
snowflakeNo, I don't thought so, please.01:42
Innomenawilcox: i'll do what i can01:42
phr34ckIt got 1's and 0's and stuff.01:42
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awilcoxphr34ck :)01:42
Innomenmint flavored 1s!01:42
InnomenMMMmmmmm01:42
noldondamn for some reason my apache2 using utf801:43
phr34ckwhat, you want one too ?01:43
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=== phr34ck hands awilcox a cookie, Ubuntu flavor.
awilcoxOkay I just installed this Kubuntu 6.06LTS installation today.  After getting everything configured correctly I noticed that it had the /tmp and /home mount points mixed up01:43
melonin the synaptic package manager (or anywhere else) - is it possible to see what programs/resources/stuff that i've personally added? i'd like to go on a cleanup mission w/o actually breaking things that shouldn't be messed with01:43
awilcoxphr34ck mmmm thank you!01:43
snowflakeI just take a screen shot of my screen when it is pink. It wasn't pink in the picture.01:43
awilcoxsnowflake, ah-ha!  it is the monitor!01:43
Innomenhmmmm01:43
phr34cksnowflake,  it's probably your monitor.01:43
awilcoxanyways back to my story...01:43
kitcheawlicox: ok edit your /etc/fstab with sudo gedit /etc/fstab and flip them around01:43
LinAsHphr34ck, btw I believe the best resolution for 15"4 is 1280x800 not 1280x76801:43
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Innomeni agree, its the moniter01:44
phr34ckLinAsH,  I'm not sure if it's supported, but will try it ...... when I log out =)01:44
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InnomenPh34ck: yea, DUH, god01:45
Innomen:P01:45
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Innomeni want a cookie01:45
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phr34ckInnomen, my cookie is affecting you, eih ?01:45
infblissis there a way to invoke hibernate from the command line01:45
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phr34ckI know it, it's soo addictive01:45
Innomeni want a COOKIE01:46
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auTONYmousphr34ck: Did you get any satisfaction on the xorg prob yet?01:46
Innomen6 minutes01:46
awilcoxso I cp -r'd the home directory to the new mount point, for some reason it didn't even mount /dev/hda8 to /tmp so I didn't have to erase anything, I just formatted it and reset it.  well I put two 8s into fstab so it came up in maintenance mode saying fstab is broke.  so I fixed it.  then it said bad FS type, I forgot to put ext3, so I reformatted and recopied EVERYTHING again, then I was finally able to almost log in; I typed my password in, then i01:47
Innomeni cant get no, dun dun dun dund undundun, satis faction, dundundnudndundundun01:47
awilcox.01:47
phr34ckauTONYmous, not quite .. There are still 12 updates to be done.01:47
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auTONYmousInnomen: that's what I was thinking....01:47
Innomenhehehe01:47
=== awilcox hands Innomen a cooke so he can fix awilcox's problem
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Innomenwhats the problem again?01:47
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Innomeni wasnt paying attention01:47
awilcoxoh GOD.....01:47
Innomenoh oh01:48
Innomenyou just typed it01:48
Innomennm01:48
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awilcoxokay01:48
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awilcoxthank you :)01:48
Innomenno no no, thank you *munch*01:48
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awilcox:D01:48
auTONYmousphr34ck: You ARE trying to use ATI's driver, right?01:48
Innomen; I typed my password in, then i01:48
Innomenthen you what01:48
Innomenit cut off01:48
LinAsHauTONYmous, trying the radeon driver first01:48
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awilcoxoh shoot, I hate freenode ircd...01:48
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auTONYmousokay01:49
fr500do hidden files (preceeded by a "." ) show  up on every open file dialog on your ubuntu?01:49
Innomeni guess i'm the only one that read your problem01:49
captaindalle:)01:49
awilcoxthen I was finally able to almost log in; I typed my password in, then it said "could not run ksomething; check your installation" and then I tried doing it again after resetting the permissions.  it went black, then it went back to the password prompt, then I typed again, then it went back to the prompt after going black for a second01:49
Innomensee cookies are powerful01:49
awilcox^ there's the rest01:49
phr34ckWhat do they mean by that? "You will need the ATI Driver Installer, not the seperate XFree86/X.org rpm packages."01:49
kohrhey, anyone know if most exteranal HD enclosures will work with linux?01:49
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Innomenman that is way beyond me, :/01:49
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phr34ckkohr,  it will. I just did mine.01:50
Innomenbruenig: lmao01:50
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awilcoxshoot.01:50
awilcox:)01:50
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kohrphr34ck, so most of them work? cool01:50
Innomenno Fin fair!01:50
awilcoxAnd you CAN'T tell me Firefox has an ice cream disabler01:50
kohrsee ya01:50
kohrthanks01:50
Innomenit might, yay for open source01:50
Innomenisnt ice cream like a sin01:51
Innomenor something01:51
awilcoxno01:51
Innomeni dont kleep up with mythology01:51
Innomenoky, nm then01:51
awilcox:)01:51
auTONYmousphr34ck: did you put your Xorg.log on pastebin?01:51
awilcoxYeah that's it I think my Xorg.conf is screewd01:51
Innomen1 minute 30 seconds!01:51
awilcox*screwed01:51
awilcoxI forgot01:51
LinAsHauTONYmous, He was using the vesa driver01:51
phr34ckauTONYmous, owh I forgot abou that ... *went to do it*01:52
dom_anybody here good w/ networking?01:52
phr34ckwhere is that located?01:52
awilcoxWhen I did sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop and then startx from the command line, Xorg caught sig1101:52
Innomendom_ i know tons of people and i'm good with faces01:52
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dom_lol01:52
Innomenwait, wrong networking01:52
awilcoxhehe Innomen01:52
auTONYmousLinAsH: specified in Xorg.conf, or defaulting due to missing radeon driver?01:52
Innomensorry01:52
Innomen:P01:52
dom_seriously though, i'm about to go insane with this...01:52
LinAsHauTONYmous, -> http://pastebin.com/84873901:52
LinAsHauTONYmous, specified01:52
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Innomeni was just tryin to make ya smile01:52
awilcoxInnomen: When I did sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop and then startx from the command line, Xorg caught sig11.  can you help?01:53
auTONYmousoh, that helps..01:53
JockeTFHappy new year! :)01:53
dom_i'll smile when i can ping google from my desktop01:53
Innomenawilcox: yea let me break out my greek to english handbook01:53
Innomen*flips pages*01:53
awilcoxHappy New Year 2007 JockeTF!01:53
auTONYmouslooks like someone TRIED the ATI driver...'01:53
InnomenI assume this has something to do wqith a computer01:53
phr34ckhabbe n00 yir.01:53
awilcoxInnomen hehehehehe01:53
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Innomen:P01:53
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awilcoxInnomen, you don't need a GREEK to English translator, you need a GEEK to English translator!01:54
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Innomen...well sonova...01:54
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ShayGuyCan anyone read this, or am I /still/ doing something wrong?01:54
dom_i'm connected to my router successfully, and i have an IP from dhcp, but i can't ping anyone... not even the router01:54
phr34ckHow can I see all global varibales?01:55
awilcoxShayGuy, hello!01:55
InnomenShayGuy: We read you, come on back01:55
awilcoxphr34ck, "set"01:55
kitcheShayGuy: yes but for some reason still is /still/01:55
phr34ckI used to change PS1 or something, so I can get a customised line01:55
AscShayGuy: We can't make out what you're saying, please try again.01:55
Innomenasc: i like you01:55
LinAsHphr34ck, export01:55
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=== Asc glees.
Innomenheheh01:55
ShayGuyI take it that's a yes. Now, my problem.01:55
phr34ckWhere are stored usually >01:55
phr34ck?*01:55
awilcoxNow01:55
InnomenShayGuy: your moniter isnt pink is it?01:56
captaindalleHow do I open .rar files, please?01:56
ShayGuyGot a LiveCD, but couldn't connect to the internet using Ubuntu.01:56
ShayGuyI'm on Windows now.01:56
awilcoxInnomen, seriously, this is really starting to bug the crap out of me, this is NOT my computer, it HAS to be done tomorrow01:56
kitchecaptaindalle: unrar01:56
LinAsHphr34ck, you mean bash variable ?01:56
awilcoxShayGuy, Innomen both of you hahahahaha01:56
Innomenawilcox: I cant help you, i'm clueless01:56
awilcoxInnomen :-(01:56
kitchecaptaindalle: you might have to install unrar also01:56
Innomen:(01:56
ziro01sup01:56
phr34ckI don't know, PS1 is a bash variable?01:57
InnomenI'm comic relife, thats about it01:57
phr34ckisn't Bash variables Global variables ?01:57
awilcoxcaptaindalle     sudo apt-get install unrar-free01:57
ShayGuyI'm using my laptop, on a home wireless network, with a D-Link router.01:57
InnomenGuys! someone help awilcox, he's nice, and we know you can do it01:57
awilcox:D01:57
Innomenhe's been in line for like 4 days, think of the children, come on01:57
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awilcoxhehehe01:58
LinAsHphr34ck, what is PS1 for ?01:58
phr34ckShayGuy,  what was the problem? why you couldn't connect ?01:58
ziro01??01:58
Innomenfor only 15 cents a day you can save awilcox01:58
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awilcoxactually, this thing has been buggering out on me since December 22nd01:58
awilcoxInnomen, naw, $15 a day :)01:58
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noldon!mysql01:58
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)01:58
phr34ckinstead of the usual user@machine ~: .. I could customise something of my own.01:58
Innomenawilcox: Shhh, we'll stick them with hidden charges later, dont you know anything about marketing?01:58
ShayGuyNot sure. Think I need to fiddle with the configurations (it /is/ Linux) but I'd like to know what I'm doing.01:58
awilcoxInnomen hehe, yeah, that was BEFORE the hidden charges :)01:59
AscShay, and you're trying to set up the wireless and don't know how?  Or you know how and can't get the card to work?01:59
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marelohello, i've just intalled unreal tournament in my computer, but the fps is too slow, i couldn't even play. Does anyone know what can it be??01:59
InnomenAsc is wise, listen01:59
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auTONYmousphr34ck: I know of a good place for Bash Prompts....01:59
awilcoxmarelo, bad card?  old card?01:59
auTONYmoushttp://www.gilesorr.com/bashprompt/jsb/prompt.html01:59
AscActually I'm just hoping the answer is really easy ;p01:59
ShayGuyI barely even understand the problem.01:59
kitchemarelo: what video card?01:59
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mareloawilcox: i don't think so. the notebook is new01:59
phr34ckauTONYmous,  thanks.01:59
Asccould be tricky then01:59
phr34ckDo you think bash is the best?.02:00
captaindalleHow do I use Unrar, sir?02:00
phr34ckI heard that Ksh is very good.02:00
marelokitche: how can i look this? (I'm new to linux)02:00
auTONYmousMe personally, yes02:00
awilcoxAsc, could you help me?02:00
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kitchemarelo: glxinfo will give you information02:00
auTONYmousbut I switch between bash and ksh at work02:00
auTONYmous(all Sun and HP stuff)02:00
awilcoxphr34ck, I like the one that comes up with the prompt      sh-3.1$02:00
phr34ckWhat are the differences?02:00
arrenlexmarelo: lspci | grep Display02:00
awilcoxthat's the one I use, not sure which one it is02:00
noldonwhy is my webbserver in utf802:00
NkuMikeHey I have an Ubuntu install disk and I was just wondering if there was a way to use it like on my desktop to install ubuntu on a headless computer02:00
awilcox/bin/sh, so prolly dash02:00
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Ascawilcox: i can try, but I'm not a repository of all knowledge.02:01
superkirbyartistI am in bad situation: whenever I start my computer, beryl-manager loads and freezes system.02:01
auTONYmousbash has better prompt scripting, and more user-interface improvements. KSH is more compatible02:01
awilcoxAsc, I'm not asking for Wikipedia, I'm asking for Xorg help.  :)02:01
InnomenNkuMike: headless? *looks around for the horseman*02:01
Ascshayguy: just for fun, run 'iwlist scan'02:01
arrenlexsuperkirbyartist: Boot into recovery mode and remove the package using the command line.02:01
InnomenOoooo done burning ! brb02:01
superkirbyartistSo I want to find out 1) How to enable Aiglx or 2)How to stop beryl-manager from loading.02:01
NkuMikeno monitor no kybd no mouse02:01
Ascawilcox: You're trying to get an ATI card working, if I remember correctly?02:01
captaindalleWhat good games are there for Ubuntu, sir?02:01
awilcoxpuh, months ago02:01
mareloarrenlex: awilcox: kitche: Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 04)02:02
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superkirbyartistarrenlex: That can help me for #2, but how do I make aiglx load?02:02
Rageagainstthishttp://pastebin.com/848744  how to creat a laucher for this02:02
marelois it good?02:02
awilcoxAsc: Okay I just installed this Kubuntu 6.06LTS installation today.  After getting everything configured correctly I noticed that it had the /tmp and /home mount points mixed up02:02
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kitchemarelo: ok pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:02
arrenlexsuperkirbyartist: I'm not even quite sure what AIGLX /is/, so don't ask me. :)02:02
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superkirbyartistAnyone into AIGLX?02:02
ShayGuyGonna have to reboot to load the LiveCD...02:02
awilcoxso I cp -r'd the home directory to the new mount point, for some reason it didn't even mount /dev/hda8 to /tmp so I didn't have to erase anything, I just formatted it and reset it.  well I put two 8s into fstab so it came up in maintenance mode saying fstab is broke.  so I fixed it.  then it said bad FS type, I forgot to put ext3, so I reformatted and recopied EVERYTHING again02:02
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ShayGuy"iwlist scan," you say?02:03
awilcoxthen I was finally able to almost log in; I typed my password in, then it said "could not run ksomething; check your installation" and then I tried doing it again after resetting the permissions.  it went black, then it went back to the password prompt, then I typed again, then it went back to the prompt after going black for a second02:03
auTONYmoussuperkirbyartist: It depends if you have an ATI or Nvidia card...02:03
phr34ckwhat's the best download manager out there?02:03
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auTONYmousATI = no AIGLX support. Nvidia means you can02:03
superkirbyartistauTONYmous: Nvidia.  Drivers are installed.02:03
awilcoxWhen I did sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop and then startx from the command line, Xorg caught sig1102:03
awilcox^ Asc, there ya go!02:03
arrenlexawilcox: What's the output of "ls -ld ~ /tmp" ?02:03
Ascshayguy: I usually recommend running IRC on a computer you're not trying to install in.02:03
auTONYmouscheck the Beryl wiki...02:03
NkuMikeAlso is there anyway to vpn to an ubuntu box so that I can play with ubuntu which will be installed on a headless box?02:03
Ascawilcox: Okay, give me a minute to read through that02:03
superkirbyartistauTONYmous: How do I load the AIGLX instead of XGL.02:03
auTONYmoushttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_AIGLX02:04
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ShayGuyUnfortunately, I don't exactly have access to two computers.02:05
kitchesuperkirbyartist: using AIGLX is easy just don't use XGL uninstall it or whatever you want open a terminal and type in beryl-manager you can make a script that starts beryl on login also02:05
marelokitche: http://pastebin.com/84874802:05
auTONYmousNkuMike: Do an Ubuntu Server install (no Xorg), set up SSH-server02:05
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ShayGuyMy family would not be happy with me monopolizing one of the desktops in addition to my laptop.02:05
phr34ckI'm going to sleep fellas, thanks for the help everyone. Good night.02:05
kitchemarelo: ah you pasted on the slow pastebin site :( thats ok though02:05
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NkuMikeauTONYmous: do you know is there a way I can install it on the headless machine from my windows desktop over the LAN?02:06
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marelokitche: sorry <:] 02:06
kitchemarelo: ok your using the i810 drivers for a i915 that's probably your problem might want to install the official intel drivers02:06
superkirbyartistauTONYmous: I don't know how to load AIGLX.02:06
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eob84Hi, can anyone in here give me any tips on setting up mythtv for an external channel change script?02:07
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AidanLHi, I was wondering if someone could help me with a problem with the installation of Ubuntu...02:07
auTONYmousNkuMike: There is, which requires network booting and mounting an ISO, I've seen it written up, but you'll have to search the Ubuntu WIKI for it02:07
maul555the resolution manager doesnt give me an option to use a resolution bigger than 1024x768..  I know my vidcard and monitor are capable of more, how can i increase the resolution?02:07
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marelokitche: are you sure? where can i download this? will it mess up my widescreen resolution? (it give some headaches till i get it working...)02:07
superkirbyartistautonymous I don't know what to do to load AIGLX.02:07
auTONYmoussuperkirbyartist: It's enabled by default, but you need to remove all your XGL references02:07
Ascarrenlex, let me see if I've got this straight.  Your mount points are now okay, but something crashed and now the display doesn't work?02:08
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superkirbyartistauTONYmous: How do you do that?  If I do that, will I see "AIGLX" in my "Sessions" list?02:08
arrenlexAsc: I believe you're talking to awilcox02:08
Ascarrenlex: yeah, probably02:09
Ascawilcox, let me see if I've got this straight.  Your mount points are now okay, but something crashed and now the display doesn't work?02:09
kitchesuperkirbyartist: AIGLX is part of Xorg so you won't see anything in sessions02:09
marelokitche: and (k)ubuntu doesn't have a driver for i915? Cause i fresh installed it, so it't the driver that came with kubuntu02:09
superkirbyartistkitche how do I use/load it?02:09
auTONYmoussuperkirbyartist: Nope. You'll just get a standard session. The only way to know is if Beryl Works.02:09
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maul555the resolution manager doesnt give me an option to use a resolution bigger than 1024x768..  I know my vidcard and monitor are capable of more, how can i increase the resolution?02:09
kitchesuperkirbyartist: if you use plain xorg your using AIGLX probably have to see your xorg.0.log to make sure02:09
AidanLI am having a problem with the installation of Ubuntu 6.10. I downloaded the Alternate download after problems with the normal download. The problem I am having is that it is failing when installing - Select and install software02:09
Angelushi guys :) Are you able to load hotmail with thunderbird?02:10
auTONYmoussuperkirbyartist: AIGLX is built into Xorg. XGL is the only one run as a separate session (basically a secondary X server running atop the primary)02:10
eob84Anyone here ever configure a myth tv channel change script?02:10
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awilcoxAsc something like that02:10
superkirbyartistKitche and Autonymous: How do I make it start?  Because whenever I load any session beryl crashes!02:10
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auTONYmousthen you're not getting AIGLX02:11
AidanLAnyones thoughts on my problem would be much appriciated.02:11
awilcoxAsc console mode works (e.g. I'm on irssi right now) but in graphics mode it just goes black and then back to the KDM login promprt02:11
auTONYmousStart by troubleshooting your Nvidia drivers02:11
awilcoxs/promprt/prompt/02:11
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Ascawilcox: Okay.  Do remember if the ksomething that crashed was more like 'kdesktop' or like 'kthread'?02:11
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marelokitche: hello?02:12
captaindalleHow do I extract 2 files in Unrar?02:12
kitchemarelo: sudo apt-get install xorg-video-intel02:12
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kitchemarelo: the xorg part might be xserver-video-intel02:12
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whitehawk1966Hello 200702:13
marelokitche: ok02:13
arrenlex!fixres | maul55502:13
ubotumaul555: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:13
marelokitche: do you think that's also the problem that my fullscreen videos are slow the same way?02:13
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awilcoxAsc, something like ksomethingconf or ksomethingconfigure02:13
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HawklineFAGS02:13
arrenlex!ops02:13
kitchemarelo: could be02:13
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AidanLI was wondering if someone could assist me with an installation problem. It is failing once it gets to the "Select and install software" bit. Help would be much aprriciated.02:13
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marelokitche: it said it couldn't find the package02:14
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Ascawilcox: Okay, sounds like a configuration daemon.02:14
robarrenlex: ?02:14
arrenlexops: (06:13:41 PM) Hawkline: FAGS02:14
arrenlex(06:13:46 PM) Hawkline left the room ("Leaving").02:14
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awilcoxAsc, yeah but that error doesn't come up anymore02:14
robk02:14
derFlocan anybody tellme a link to download free games for ScummVM?02:14
awilcoxrob: the hostmask was dcooper@cpe-76-187-45-61.tx.res.rr.com02:14
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awilcoxAsc, now it just goes black and then comes back the KDM prompt02:15
AidanLWhat am I to do when a section of the installation fails?02:15
dom_can anyone help me get my wifi working properly?02:15
arrenlexawilcox: still curious: What's the output of "ls -ld ~ /tmp" ?02:15
awilcoxAsc and when I did "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" followed by "startx" I got X server caught signal 1102:15
whitehawk1966INstallation Looks like it stalls at 80% I thnk02:15
Ascawilcox: Did you get KDE to start at some point previously?02:15
marelokitche: the description of i810: This package provides the driver for the Intel i8xx and i9xx family of chipsets, including i810, i815, i830, i845, i855, i865, i915, and i945 series chips.02:16
whitehawk1966will finish02:16
awilcoxarrenlex, I said already, it never got the /tmp mount point, stupid setup didn't know it WAS to mount at /tmp02:16
kitchemarelo: ok let me find it02:16
awilcoxso it was never mounted until I did it manually02:16
awilcoxAsc yeah02:16
arrenlexawilcox: So you're trying to start X without a /tmp ?02:16
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derFlocan anybody tellme a link to download free games for ScummVM?02:16
dom_...please?02:16
awilcoxarrenlex, no ti's on /02:16
awilcoxs/ti/it/02:16
marelokitche: look above02:16
arrenlexawilcox: What's on /?02:16
awilcoxthe / mountpoint, /dev/hda1, contains the /tmp folder02:16
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eob84has anyone here setup and IR blaster for mythtv?02:16
arrenlexawilcox: So you do have a /tmp.02:16
awilcoxarrenlex, yes, just not a separate partition02:17
arrenlexawilcox: So tell me what that command prints.02:17
awilcoxls -ld ~ /tmp right?02:17
arrenlexawilcox: Yes.02:17
kitchemarelo: yeah but those are open source drivers from Xorg not from Intel02:17
mareloohh02:17
auTONYmousawilcox: what does "sudo mount" give you?02:17
derFlocan anybody tellme a link to download free games for ScummVM?02:17
marelokitche: i think it won't be in the repository, then, will it?02:17
awilcoxauTONYmous, sudo mount or just mount?02:17
Shocka311Can anyone tell me how to add and edit partitions on my exesting master hard drive?02:17
arrenlexkitche: They are one in the same, I'm pretty sure. Intel released GPL drivers which the Linux developers integrated into their trees.02:17
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auTONYmouseither (I'm just paranoid)02:17
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awilcoxarrenlex: drwxrwxr-x 10 jwilcox jwilcox 4096 2006-12-31 19:08 /home/jwilcox02:18
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awilcox^ jwilcox = user account, my friend/family member I'm setting up the computer for02:18
dxdemetriouCan anybody help with how can I compile the tcl/tk 8.5a5? I have problem, because it says null version, and I don't know where to fix it.02:18
kitchearrenlex: maybe but the xorg driver isn't the intel driver since xorg 7.1 was out before Intel released the drivers02:18
awilcoxarrenlex: drwxrwxrwt 12 root   root   1024 2006-12-31 19:04 /tmp02:18
awilcoxauTONYmous: output of mount?  or just relevant partitions?02:19
AidanLCan anyone help me through an installation problem. It gets to "select and install software" and fails. Do I just move on?02:19
derFlocan anybody tellme a link to download free games for ScummVM?02:19
arrenlexawilcox: Everything looks fine. That's not the problem thenl sorry to bother you.02:19
auTONYmousrelevant...ensuring they match fstab02:19
kitchemarelo: see if you have xserver-xorg-video-Intel installed02:19
derFlocan anybody tellme a link to download free games for ScummVM?02:19
awilcoxarrenlex, not a bother02:19
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kitchemarelo: nevermind let me do some searching02:19
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awilcoxauTONYmous, okay /dev/hda7 was /home, that should have been /tmp but I didn't set up the mount point during install, and I put /home there by accident02:19
auTONYmoushave you switched it?02:20
derFlocan anybody tellme a link to download free games for ScummVM?02:20
arrenlex!repeat | derFlo02:20
ubotuderFlo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience02:20
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awilcoxauTONYmous, asc, arrenlex: so what I did was I formatted /dev/hda8 with mke2fs -j then mounted /dev/hda8 (which SHOULD have been /home) to /home2, then cp -r'd /home/jwilcox /home2, then umounted /dev/hda7, then umounted /dev/hda8 and remounted to /home, then changed /etc/fstab02:21
auTONYmousawilcox: what's the intended mount point for /home?02:21
marelokitche: I have xserver-xorg-driver-i810, that one I sent the description02:21
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awilcoxauTONYmous /dev/hda8 which is mounted as /home02:21
marelokitche: in the description also says: This package provides the driver for the Intel i8xx and i9xx family of chipsets, including i810, i815, i830, i845, i855, i865, i915, and i945 series chips.02:21
marelooops sorry02:21
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marelokitche: also says: X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver02:21
Ascawilcox: Just a point of curiosity.  /etc/fstab is using /dev/*s instead of UUIDs?02:22
marelo("Intel")02:22
auTONYmousasc: you beat me to it02:22
kitchemarlo: try the xserver-xorg-video-Intel then I know on Intel's website they have the linux drivers for download02:22
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AscOh, right, you mentioned you're using 6.0602:22
AidanLWhat happens if a section of the install fails i.e. Select and Install Software?02:22
Shocka311anybody? i need to create a new partition on my master hard drive so thatI can install the start up files to install windows on my slave HD but it won't let me edit or create new partitions.02:22
AscAlthough I've not used Kubuntu02:22
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alex_I'm kinda mesmerized by aiglx/beryl02:22
kitchemarelo: hmm seems like the driver from Intel is part of Xorg already02:23
awilcoxAsc yeah02:23
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marelokitche: sigh.... what do i do, then?02:23
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kitchemarelo: change your xorg.conf the driver part of i915 see if that helps any02:24
awilcoxAll I did was change the hda7 to hda802:24
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awilcoxthat's IT.02:24
blackhawk08hey, i just installed ubuntu today, and i have 2 prblms(expected with linux) prblm 1 is i cant figure out how to give users root permissions and prblm 2 is i cant figure out how to access my files on my slave drive storage partition02:24
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verylhow do i stop ubuntu from wanting to update a package?02:24
awilcoxEVERYTHING ELSE stayed the same02:24
mareloinstead i810 edit to i915??02:24
arrenlex!root | blackhawk0802:24
ubotublackhawk08: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:24
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Ascawilcox: Do a 'ps -e | more' and make sure that nothing KDE related is still running02:24
marelokitche: instead i810 edit to i915??02:24
noodles12what was that program that allowed windows to read ext3 partitions?02:24
arrenlex!mount | blackhawk0802:24
ubotublackhawk08: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter02:24
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awilcoxkhelper02:25
awilcoxkthread02:25
awilcoxShould I kill kthread?02:25
dom_can anyone help me with my wifi?02:25
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auTONYmousnoodles12: ext2fsd for Windows....it's a driver+program02:26
blackhawk08well i use sudo for root things, but for installing i need root permissions..and for some reason my main account wont let me make directories02:26
pickles_i was having trouble with my laptop wifi, but suse worked much better than ubuntu02:26
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Ascawilcox: no02:26
kitchemarelo: yeah since I know i915 drivers can do direct rendering glxinfo should have told you if it was using direct rendering or not02:26
awilcox(4) kjournald, khubd, khpsbpkt, klogd, krfcommd02:26
dom_my computer connects to the router, get's an IP from dhcp, but nothing can get through02:26
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awilcoxtwo kdm and one kdm_greet02:26
dom_can _anyone_ help me?02:26
Ascawilcox: With the small-numbered processeds, k stand for kernel instead of KDE02:26
auTONYmousawilcox: can you reboot in single user mode:02:26
Shocka311does nobody know??? aaaarrrgghh02:26
awilcoxAsc, oh oops :P02:26
awilcoxauTONYmous yes but do what02:26
AscYou probably don't want to try to kill the kernel02:26
Ascalthough it WOULD be interesting02:27
awilcoxI assume you mean maintenance mode02:27
awilcoxAsc hahahahahahahahahaha02:27
AidanLI have installed Ubuntu however when I go onto it I have text only and have been asked to login. I don't understand what to do. I thought it booted up, you entered your username and password then got onto your desktop...02:27
kitcheAsc even if you try to kill kthread it restarts back up02:27
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awilcoxAidanL my laptop does that, type your name/password then type "startx" at the command prompt02:27
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arrenlexAidanL: Ideally, yes. You have a problem.02:27
Ascawilcox: kill the KDMs and KDM_greet, for starters02:27
awilcoxAidanL I have no clue why, it just does that, it's very stupid02:27
awilcoxAsc, shall I /etc/init.d/kdm stop first?02:27
arrenlexAidanL: Was there anything odd about your install?02:27
arrenlexAidanL: Do you have the gdm package installed?02:27
AidanLThanks awilcox, however it has told me there is a Fatal Error:(02:28
auTONYmousawilcox: On startup, pick the "Recovery Mode" kernel from the Grub list02:28
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alex_might have gotten the server install =P02:28
awilcoxauTONYmous yes I know HOW, I just don't know WHY...what do I DO with it?02:28
Shocka311kitche: you usually have all the answers, can you help?02:28
arrenlexAidanL: Ah, then you have a big problem. Can you be more specific than "a fatal error"?02:28
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kitchearrenlex: mine did that also but after a few reboots it worked normally for some reason02:28
Ascawilcox: It's worth a try.  I have no experience with init.d/kdm02:28
dom_i can't even ping localhost.... someone please help me!02:28
awilcoxAsc okay02:28
arrenlexkitche: ...o__O02:28
ewookwooooha, happy new years -02:2902:29
awilcoxAsc okay after doing /etc/init.d/kdm stop all of them went away02:29
Ascawilxox: I guess it probably works pretty much the same way as init.d/gdm, but who knows.02:29
AidanLX10: fatal IO error 104 (Connection Reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 9 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.02:29
auTONYmousyou'll be in a user mode lower than X, which will help verify that the mount points are all okay. Once you exit, it will continue with multi-user mode boot from that point02:29
kitchearrenlex: with just booting to shell first but then after about 3 or so boots it started gdm on boot02:29
Ascawilcox, are you doing startx with sudo or not?02:29
kitcheAidanL: ok you probably have to configure X with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:29
awilcoxauTONYmous, FYI I'm not in X, this is irssi and I'm doing all these commands on tty1 (irssi on tty2)02:29
awilcoxAsc, yes it works like gdm02:29
awilcoxAsc, no sudo, I don't on my laptop so I am not here02:30
awilcoxAsc should I sudo?02:30
Ascawilcox, hmm.02:30
awilcoxit's an NVIDIA GeForce 6100 IGP on an nFORCE 4 (IIRC?) chipset02:30
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auTONYmousI figured that, but you're still in runlevel 5...multi-user with X.02:30
Ascawilcox: On my install (which started as 5.04 and I've abused a whole lot) startx stopped working.02:30
kitcheauTONYmous: he's in runlevel 2 debian/ubuntu uses runlevel 2 for everything02:31
Ascawilcox: Just for fun, try starting with 'sudo kdm'02:31
awilcoxauTONYmous, will that REALLY make a difference with /etc/fstab though?!02:31
auTONYmousnot yet, but I02:31
awilcoxkitche thank you :)02:31
melonin the synaptic package manager (or anywhere else) - is it possible to see what programs/resources/stuff that i've personally added? i'd like to go on a cleanup mission w/o actually breaking things that shouldn't be messed with02:31
awilcoxAsc, okay and okay02:31
auTONYmoussorry...thinking another system again (I get Sun/HP/Linux/others mixed sometimes...)02:31
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awilcoxAsc sudo startx did same thing02:31
arrenlexmelon: Sort by the first column. Packages that didn't come from the repositories won't have the ubuntu logo.02:31
awilcoxFatal server error:02:31
awilcoxCaught signal 11.  Server aborting02:32
Asc0_o02:32
arrenlexmelon: Second column, sorry. The one with logos.02:32
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awilcoxAsc, what, should X not SIGSEG?  (IIRC that's #11)02:32
melonneat.. thanks..02:32
AidanLI have done what you said awilcox but it still does the same. Perhaps I didn't reconfigure it correctly...02:33
awilcoxAsc, which explains why KDM keeps rebooting, X is crashing so it automatically restarts X02:33
Ascawilcox: That is displayed when you try to sudo startx/kdm in the tty?  Not when trying to log in?02:33
awilcoxAsc correct, sudo startx OR just regular ol startx02:33
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Shocka311if nobody knows does anyone know a support chanell that someone could help me edit and create partitions?02:34
Ascawilcox: Sounds like it.  Um, hmm.02:34
will_I_am!skype02:34
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto02:34
awilcoxAsc, sounds like what?02:34
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AscX11 is crashing02:34
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AscI suppose you've tried restarting?02:35
PicklesI was thinking about setting up a ubuntu fileserver, but the only two options presented in the ubuntu server install were LAMP and DNS. any recomendations?02:35
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emaclaHow do i remove a directory from a USB-memory stick trought the Terminal?02:36
kitchePickles: install LAMP if you wish then install Samba02:36
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awilcoxAsc, hmm02:36
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emaclaHow do i remove a directory from a USB-memory stick trought the Terminal?02:36
AidanLDespite doiing sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i am still getting the error.02:36
Ascawilcox, try tail ~/.xsession-errors and see if anything interesting comes out02:37
kitcheemacla: sudo rmdir <dir> or rm -r <dir>02:37
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AidanLAnyone have any ideas?02:37
noldonwhats the different between ubuntu dapper and ubuntu breezy02:38
kitchenoldon: breezy has older software02:38
emaclakitche: Says, directory is not empty. I know. But i want to remove all the files in it too.02:38
noldonok02:38
kitcheemacla: with what rmdir?02:38
PhlostenAidanL, only 1 graphics card?02:38
AidanLYEs02:38
Picklescan samba be installed on the desktop version of ubuntu?02:38
kitcheemacla: you want the rm -r <dir> one then02:38
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kitchePickles: yes02:39
dom_can someone help me with me WIFI connection? *please*02:39
AidanLI have onboard but they are off by auto if a PCI-E is inserted. Which it is.02:39
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Phlostenemacla, try rm -rf <dir>02:39
violotdom_, what kind of card do you have?02:39
violotI MIGHT be able to help02:39
violotMy knowledge is limited :P02:39
dom_generic offbrand.  it works in freespire02:40
kitchePhlosten: rm -r does the same thing and helps if he types rm -rf in the wrong folder02:40
dom_atheros chipset02:40
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Phlostenkitche, indeed02:40
violotDid you search the wiki (aka, I don't know :P)02:40
violothttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:40
pickles_kitche, thanks02:40
AidanLI am assuming my problem lies with my graphics card?02:40
dom_yeah, no help...02:40
violotdom_, Or post in the Wireless & Networking forum on Ubuntuforums.org02:41
dom_i was really hoping to get this resolved right now though02:41
auTONYmousdom_: does the card show up at all?02:41
dom_yeah02:41
dom_it shows up and i'm connected to the AP02:41
auTONYmoushmm...02:42
jevangeloeveryone going to have a happy new year?02:42
dom_but i can't ping anything, google, the router, localhost, NOTHING02:42
auTONYmouswhat's "iwconfig" give you?02:42
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dom_shows the ESSID and the mac of the AP (that's how i know i'm connected)02:42
auTONYmousdom_ do you have "link quality" and "bit rate"???02:43
dom_link quality = 52/94 and bit rate = 54mb/s02:43
PhlostenAidanL, what is your graphics card?02:43
auTONYmousdom_: and "ifconfig" gives you an IP address?02:43
dom_yup02:43
dom_192.168.2.302:44
auTONYmouswhat's your router IP?02:44
dom_192.168.2.102:44
Ascawilcox, Anything?02:44
auTONYmousare you still connected to your wired port?02:44
awilcoxAsc same ol same ol02:44
AidanLI have an x800 PCI-E02:44
AidanL(ATI)02:44
dom_no, but i can be02:44
Ascbugger02:44
dom_i'm on my laptop right now02:44
auTONYmousno, don't...stay wireless02:44
dom_ok02:44
PhlostenAidanL, what driver are you using?02:44
Ascawilcox, try tail ~/.xsession-errors and tail /var/log/daemon.log, see if anything interesting comes out02:45
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AidanLOn what? Ubuntu?02:45
AidanLOr on Windows?02:45
PhlostenAidanL, Ubuntu02:45
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AidanLI havn't installed a driver yet... I haven't been able to get on to install one.02:45
auTONYmousdom_: dhcp or static?02:45
dom_dhcp02:45
awilcoxAsc okay02:45
dom_actually, i've tried both... dhcp right now02:46
PhlostenAidanL, dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg would have specified a driver, do you remember what it was?02:46
AidanLNo I shall do it again02:46
auTONYmousdom_: any other computers on that router?02:46
dom_my lappy (this one)02:46
awilcoxAsc yep something interesting02:46
dom_also connected wirelessly02:46
PhlostenAidanL, at a guess it is probably guessing the wrong one02:46
awilcox.xsession-errors was basically empty, only one line02:46
awilcoxbut /var/log/daemon.log02:46
dom_+ dhcp02:46
awilcoxoh BOY daemon.log:02:47
AidanLIt picked it up as an x80002:47
auTONYmousdom_: did you lock down the router config? (I.E. MAC filtering or something?)02:47
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awilcoxAsc: Dec 31 20:38:19 localhost kdm_greet[4894] : Can't open default user face02:47
PhlostenAidanL, can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?02:47
dom_yes, of course, but the mac address is whitelisted02:47
awilcoxAsc: Dec 31 20:38:19 localhost kdm_greet[4894] : Internal error: memory corruption detected02:47
auTONYmousokay...02:47
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AidanLIf I can access it...02:47
awilcoxoops02:47
PhlostenAidanL, what driver is reconfigure suggesting?02:47
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awilcoxactually the timestap for that last one should be 20:39:4702:48
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awilcoxthen02:48
ozzloymy system says there are updates, but the packages can't be authenticated.  how do troubleshoot getting the keys for the packages???02:48
awilcoxDec 31 20:39:48 localhost kdm[4817] : X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly02:48
AscI'm gonna go with 'hmm'02:48
AidanLPhlosten: One moment02:48
awilcoxDec 31 20:39:51 localhost kdm_greet[4946] : Can't open default user face02:48
awilcoxAsc, you mean, you can't help EITHER?!02:48
awilcoxShall I run another MemTest86+?02:49
auTONYmousdom_: turn off the blacklisting for a minute and see if that helps02:49
AidanLX server driver: the selected one is ATI02:49
awilcoxAsc, another thing02:49
AidanLWhich it what it is so I press OK02:49
Ascawilcox, not just yet02:49
dom_auTONYmous: tried it earlier02:49
auTONYmousno luck?02:49
GunnarQ: Anyone haveing trouble with OpenGL  (nvidia)  error : Couldn't open OpenGL Subsystem ( Game is tremulous ).02:49
dom_auTONYmous: nope02:49
auTONYmoususing WEP or WPA?02:49
dom_WEP02:50
awilcoxAsc it's a 2000MHz processor OCed to 2050MHz (yes only 50MHz more), running at 35 celsius, 94 fahrenheit02:50
awilcoxtoo hot?02:50
PhlostenAidanL, as a test i would change that to 'vesa'02:50
auTONYmousOHHH....02:50
AidanLThen it identifies it as ATI TECHNOLOGIES, Inc. R423 UK [Radeon x800SE (PCI-E)] 02:50
dom_auTONYmous: i don't think it's a router problem, as i can connect my laptop fine, i can connect my desktop fine in freespire, and right now, i can't even ping 127.0.0.102:50
Ascawilcox: Although it's true to say that I doubt I can help.  I'm so far out of my depth the fish have lanterns on.  But I can thrash around a little more.02:50
gRaCiOsOi started ssh and im trying to test it but when it ask me for a password and i put it it says gracioso@darkthrone:~$ ssh karla@189.174.90.10002:50
gRaCiOsOkarla@189.174.90.100's password:02:50
gRaCiOsOPermission denied, please try again.02:50
auTONYmousdom_: get "Network Manager"...02:50
dom_auTONYmous: got it02:50
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Ascawilcox, I think that should be okay02:50
gRaCiOsOanyone know why ?02:50
auTONYmous.0.6.3?02:50
auTONYmous(version number)02:50
dom_auTONYmous: i've tried configuring w/ the gui, configuring from command line... nothing helps...02:50
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ozzloygRaCiOsO: you are typing the wrong password02:51
gRaCiOsOafter 3 times it says Permission denied (publickey,password).02:51
AidanLPholsten I will select that. For the rest of the reconfigure do I leave it as the default entries?02:51
PhlostenAidanL, yeah, should be fine to leave defaults02:51
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pchildsIs there an unofficial support site for edgy like dapper has?02:51
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Ascawilcox: I'm doing a search on that error.  It's returned a few results, so maybe someone more knowledgeable than I has recorded how to fix it02:52
awilcoxAsc, is there an advanced support?  a level II?  #ubuntu-reallyhardquestions ?02:52
PhlostenAidanL, every card should work with vesa, except the performance will suck, but it will confirm whether it is driver or not02:52
auTONYmousdom_: well, if you're getting and IP assigned, then you're getting past WEP and MAC filtering...02:52
gRaCiOsOozzloy,  i created the user with that password02:52
dom_auTONYmous: ...right...02:52
gRaCiOsOi used openssh to do it02:52
AidanLAnother Fatal error. Although it did come up with some pixels at the top of the screen then they quickly disappeared.02:52
ozzloyawilcox: there is paid support available from ubuntu02:52
cypruserHow do I install a .tar.gz that I downladed?02:52
awilcoxozzloy oh geez02:52
ozzloygRaCiOsO: caps-lock?02:52
Ascawilcox: Not that I know of.02:52
ozzloygRaCiOsO: numlock?02:53
auTONYmousdom_: and nm-applet is showing connected?02:53
gRaCiOsOdont understand02:53
dom_yup02:53
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auTONYmousdom_: ping your own IP02:53
ozzloygRaCiOsO: make sure that the capslock is in the same state as when you set the password02:53
dom_can't02:53
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ozzloygRaCiOsO: the password is case sensitive02:54
Ascawilcox: you're using the fglxr driver?02:54
AidanLThe fatal error reads: Could not open default font 'fixed' XIO fatal error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 resquests (0known processed) with 0 events remaining. xauth: error in locking authority file /home/aidan/.Xauthority02:54
awilcoxAsc, no clue02:54
ozzloygRaCiOsO: and if the num-lock is in a different state, that can also make the typing come out differently than you expect02:54
PhlostenAidanL, what ubuntu version is this?02:54
dom_auTONYmous: 100% packet loss02:54
awilcoxAsc how to check?02:54
ozzloygRaCiOsO: try going to the original machine and signing in with the username/password you are trying to use with ssh02:55
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dom_auTONYmous: when i ping localhost -> "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted"02:55
AidanL6.10 - (Alternate download) as I had major problems with the main normal download.02:55
Ascawilcox: Hrrm.  Was there anything on the line in ~.xsession-errors02:55
dannydrifffftI'm trying to install Ubuntu 6.10. I put the cd in, restart the computer, I get the ubuntu loading screen, and once it gets loaded, I just get an orange screen and everything looks a little choppy. I don't even get a screen asking me what to do. Could it just be that my hardware is not compatible?02:55
auTONYmousdom_: never seen THAT before...02:55
gRaCiOsOozzloy, i tryied it with 2 users i created but dont accept the password when i test ssh it says permission denied and after 3 times it says Permission denied (publickey,password).02:55
PhlostenAidanL, yes, i am fairly sure your card isnt supported by the included ATI driver02:55
AidanLO02:55
dom_auTONYmous: i know, right? it's insane....02:55
ozzloygRaCiOsO: that's what happens for me when i type the pw wrong.  or maybe the username is wrong?02:56
AidanLI see... Ubuntu 5.1 worked ok. Although that had to be uninstalled as my wireless adaptor wasn't compatible. So... Where do I go from here do you think?02:56
dom_auTONYmous: i'd chalk it up to a hardware issue... except that it works perfectly in freespire02:56
auTONYmousdom_: are you using some firewalling?02:56
dom_iptables is installed but i have no rules setup02:56
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ozzloygRaCiOsO: other than that i wouldn't know what could cause that behavior02:56
PhlostenAidanL, sounds like you may want to do some manual tweaking of your xorg.conf file02:56
awilcoxAsc that line just said Xsession started at blah....02:57
Ascawilcox:  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep fglxr02:57
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AscOkay.02:57
awilcoxI just have glx02:57
AidanLHow do I access that... I hate to sound thick...02:57
auTONYmousdom_: I assume you're PLANNING to use it...02:57
PhlostenAidanL, a bit hard when you dont have a desktop02:57
awilcoxNO glxr just glx02:57
ozzloygRaCiOsO: do you have physical access to the machine you are trying to ssh to?02:57
dom_auTONYmous: and if i setup eth0 (the hardline) i can ping around and do whatever02:57
AidanLYeah, it makes sense lol.02:57
PhlostenAidanL, you have a terminal prompt open?02:57
AidanLYeah it is on screen now.02:57
ozzloygRaCiOsO: also, paste the line you are using to try to use to ssh02:57
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ozzloygRaCiOsO: paste it here, that is02:58
gRaCiOsOssh karla@189.174.90.10002:58
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auTONYmousdom_: stumper...truly02:58
Ascawilcox: ls -lo / | grep /tmp and tell me what the permissions on your /tmp directory are02:58
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dom_auTONYmous: damnit02:58
gRaCiOsOozzloy,  i opened it in my own machine and im only testing it02:58
auTONYmousdom_: hang on...02:59
dom_auTONYmous: i even tried deleting /etc/networking/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf in an effort to start fresh02:59
PhlostenAidanL, type 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'02:59
ozzloygRaCiOsO: do you mean you are trying to ssh from one machine to itself?02:59
AidanLCommand not found.02:59
gRaCiOsOozzloy,  yes03:00
AidanLthat is what I am getting. I am probably doing something wrong...03:00
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ozzloygRaCiOsO: that's not a normal use of ssh, i'll try it here and see what happens03:00
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tagwhen I attempt to run rdesktop, I get "Major opcode of failed request:  78 (X_CreateColormap)"03:00
tagand more03:00
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gRaCiOsOozzloy,  ok03:00
Crashzoriedereen een fijne avond03:01
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Ascawilcox ping03:01
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auTONYmousdom_: try this:03:01
auTONYmoushttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=35648703:01
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entelhi, how i can see "" and "" in console, ..I see only "?"03:01
ozzloygRaCiOsO: it works here03:02
PhlostenAidanL, try just 'nano'03:02
elyonWell, I'm back with another stupid noob question.  I recently installed the latest ATI video drivers and now my performance in games is 10x worse than it was BEFORE installing them... any ideas?03:02
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elyonI know ATI driver support sucks in Linux, but there's got to be some way to make it workable...03:02
AidanLPhlosten - nano: command not found03:02
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PhlostenAidanL, ok, you dont have nano, its a text editor03:02
gRaCiOsOozzloy,  i do gracioso@darkthrone:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start03:02
gRaCiOsO * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [ ok ] 03:02
ozzloygRaCiOsO: using the same username and password.  the fact that it gets to the part where it asks for a password means that it's connecting03:02
AidanLI see...03:02
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ozzloygRaCiOsO: you shouldn't have to do that03:03
entelAidanL, sudo apt-get install nano03:03
PhlostenAidanL, which is odd, as it is a default installed package03:03
ozzloygRaCiOsO: sudo apt-get install openssh-server03:03
AidanLIt failed on the installing software bit. Perhaps that would explain it... :$03:03
gRaCiOsOi installed03:03
ozzloygRaCiOsO: that will take care of starting the server for you.  did you install it that way?03:03
PhlostenAidanL, ah right, that might explain the font error too, it might be missing something03:03
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ozzloygRaCiOsO: and you are connecting, the server is running, otherwise it wouldn't even get to the point of asking for a pw03:03
awilcoxSorry Asc03:03
AidanLNano has opened03:04
PhlostenAidanL, try running this 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'03:04
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ozzloyPhlosten: paradise? 5th element?03:04
awilcoxmy neighbors keep lighting fireworks and I'm afraid it's going to catch my car and/or house on fire03:04
entelhow i can see "" and "" in console, ..I see only "?"03:04
awilcoxbecause the sparks are REALLY close03:04
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Phlostenozzloy, yeah ;)03:04
AscThey probably won't03:04
awilcoxAsc ls -lo / | grep /tmp came up nothing03:04
elyon...also, Add/Remove is telling me that my list of available applications is out of date EVERY time I run it... this is new.  I've done apt-get reload but it still tells me this.  Anyone know why?03:04
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AidanLPholsten Will do. By the way I really do appriciate the help :)03:04
Phlostenozzloy, although with a 'Ph' instead of 'F'03:04
gRaCiOsOyeah i installed openssh-server then i do sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start then i try to test it with my own user doing ssh user@ip then when it asks for password it say permission denied and after 3 times it says Permission denied (publickey,password). and i dont know why03:05
Ascwe had one of those big shell-type ones explode on a tomato plant once and it was fine03:05
jleemc44Im running ubuntu live cd and cant mount the hard drive on my dell laptop, any ideas pros?03:05
ozzloyPhlosten: word03:05
awilcoxAsc yipes03:05
PhlostenAidanL, ubuntu-desktop is a meta package that will instead all the base ubuntu install, so if you are missing something it should fix it up03:05
awilcoxAsc anyways should ls -lo / | grep /tmp come up anything?03:05
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Ascafter that we learned to use clamps if we wanted to set off more than one at the same time03:05
Phlosteninstead=install03:05
AidanLYeah it is installing it now. Thanks alot:). Lets hope it works. Fingers crossed:)03:05
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dom_auTONYmous: no dice03:06
Ascawilcox: Well, if it returns nothing you probably don't have a /tmp directory03:06
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dom_auTONYmous: deleted EVERY rule, still no ping action03:06
awilcoxAsc I do03:06
elyongrrr... now Firefox won't even run.  What the hell is wrong with this OS??03:06
awilcoxls /tmp returns things03:06
AidanLPhlosten: I will inform once it is done. It is 10% now lol.03:06
awilcoxelyon, calm down, what does Firefox do?03:06
PhlostenAidanL, haha, its missing a few bits then ;)03:06
Asc0_o er, hrm03:06
awilcoxAsc even a .X11-unix file in /tmp03:06
elyonlol it says "Starting Firefox" then nothing... just ends.03:06
gRaCiOsOozzloy, yeah i installed openssh-server then i do sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start then i try to test it with my own user doing ssh user@ip then when it asks for password it say permission denied and after 3 times it says Permission denied (publickey,password). and i dont know why03:07
awilcoxelyon03:07
Ascawilcox, try cd /;ls -lo | grep tmp03:07
AidanLLol. I am sorry to put you through hell lol03:07
awilcoxelyon attempt to start it from the terminal03:07
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AidanLO dear...03:07
jleemc44where should I start in troubleshooting my problem? The harddrive will not mount03:07
ozzloygRaCiOsO: you shouldn't have to do sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start03:07
gRaCiOsOwhy?03:07
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awilcoxAsc okay03:07
AidanL28% buffer I/O error on devide hda, logic block 72303:07
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elyonawilcox - that just does the same thing.03:07
awilcoxAsc drwxrwxrwt  6 root  1024 2006-12-31 20:39 tmp03:08
ozzloygRaCiOsO: the apt-get install takes care of that.  but that's a side issue, it's not affecting the current problem03:08
awilcoxelyon, it gives NO errors on stdio?03:08
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elyonstdio?03:08
awilcoxelyon, sorry geeky term, the command line03:08
ozzloygRaCiOsO: paste the entire thing at http://rafb.net/paste03:08
AidanLAlthough now we have jumped to 33% and going up now :S03:08
elyonawilcox, ah.  Nope... nothing on the command line at all.03:08
awilcoxelyon for full info (you have no browser haha) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/stdio03:08
ozzloygRaCiOsO: then paste the resulting url here03:09
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imbeciledoes anyone ever get a steady download rate on amule?03:10
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elyonawilcox - should I try to reinstall it with Synaptic?03:10
gRaCiOsOozzloy,  http://rafb.net/p/XtGFjf68.html03:10
imbecilemaybe i'm thinking maybe im firewalled or something03:10
awilcoxelyon sure03:10
awilcoxyay!  neighbors went home without catching the Ford on fire!  rejoice!  :P03:11
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awilcoxanyways back to Ubuntu matters03:11
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awilcoxhow much does Canonical or whoever charge for paid support?03:11
Ascawilcox: starting to run out of ideas, but I've got maybe two left03:11
awilcoxand will they refund it if they can't help me03:11
awilcoxAND will they not just say "reinstall it" and charge $255 like Micro$loth?03:12
elyonawilcox - nope... does the same thing after reinstalling.03:12
ozzloygRaCiOsO: i notice you are sshing specifying the name karla, but the command prompt shows your name as gracioso03:12
Ascawilcox: Are you trying to use xgl?03:12
awilcoxAsc no03:12
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ozzloygRaCiOsO: try ssh gracioso@189...03:12
awilcoxJust regular old peace-loving Xorg with default stuff03:12
Zancat_Ubuntu!packages03:12
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!03:12
Ascbrain made out of hurtings03:12
awilcoxlike I said, I fiddled with Xorg.conf a little, so do you want me to pastebin it?03:13
dom_auTONYmous: did you leave and now come back with an idea?03:13
ozzloygRaCiOsO: and use the password for that user03:13
elyonawilcox - are there error logs somewhere that I can look to fix Firefox?03:13
ozzloygRaCiOsO: also, don't do sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start any more03:13
awilcoxelyon not that I'm aware of; except things like /var/log/daemon.log and stuff like that (and tail | dmesg)03:13
auTONYmousdom_: pm03:13
gRaCiOsOhttp://rafb.net/p/1PAW9g95.html03:14
Ascelyon, most of the logs are in /var/log03:14
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Ascand some in ~/.xsession-errors as well03:14
awilcoxwill anybody LOOK if I pastebin Xorg.conf?03:14
gRaCiOsOozzloy,  http://rafb.net/p/1PAW9g95.html03:14
jleemc44"pmount hda1" gives the error "device /dev/hda1 is not removable" what is up with that????? A little help please03:14
elyonWhy the heck would it just STOP working like that?03:14
AscI will, not that it'll do me much good03:15
ozzloygRaCiOsO: that is exactly the behavior i get when i type the password incorrectly.  it stops accepting passwords after 3 tries to keep people from trying billions until they get the right one03:15
AscAlthough I'd love to know how you're using pastebin from the terminal03:15
elyonawilcox - In System Monitor, it reports that "firefox-bin" is "Sleeping"03:15
elyonShould I try stopping that?03:15
jbroomedon't wake it03:15
gRaCiOsOozzloy,  im typing the correct password im just using that user03:15
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awilcoxelyon, type into terminal: sudo killall -9 firefox-bin03:16
awilcoxAsc, well there IS lynx/w3c03:16
awilcoxbut03:16
awilcoxI will have to type it in manually03:16
awilcoxthis could take a half an hour03:16
ozzloygRaCiOsO: at the shell type passwd03:16
awilcoxanother thing03:16
ozzloyit will ask for your current password03:16
awilcoxif I do sudo Xorg03:16
Ascawilcox: don't try it then03:16
ozzloygRaCiOsO: ^03:16
AidanLPhlosten: It has finished. Although Failed to fetch cdrom: [Ubuntu 6.10 _edgy eft_ release 1386 (20061025.1] /pool/main/g/gcj-41/libgcj7-0_4.1.1-14ubunutu7_1386.deb MD5Sum mismatch03:17
awilcoxIt doesn't crash, but looks yucky, with R/G/B lines all through the display, and it looks curled03:17
awilcoxbut it DID come on03:17
awilcoxOH NO!03:17
__mikem!netsplit03:17
neuro_woof03:17
awilcoxNetsplit taking 555 users down FTL03:17
PhlostenAidanL, sounds like your cd might have had a problem03:18
awilcoxoh GOD...It took Asc!03:18
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awilcoxWait a minute, I'M on zelazny03:19
awilcoxwhy wasn't I splitted?03:19
crimsunthat's netsplit semantics.03:19
godessI need help in setting up a DXG dv movie camara03:20
__mikemcrimsun, I have never been splitted once in the year I have been a part of this comunity03:20
crimsunit doesn't reveal -which- server split off; everyone will appear to have split from irc.fn from your perspective03:20
awilcoxActually crimsun it says split from zelazny TO irc.fn03:20
awilcoxbut I'M on zelazny.03:21
godesshelp03:21
crimsunawilcox, that's intentional.03:21
awilcoxOh.03:21
awilcoxIs there another channel that could help me with my really complicated problem?03:21
awilcoxI've stumped everyone in here....03:22
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AidanLInteresting...03:22
awilcoxWelcome back from the netsplit y'all!03:22
awilcoxHow was it in cyberspace with no IRC server to call home?  :P03:22
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jevangelothere we go03:23
dom_and destination "default" going through 192.168.2.103:23
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awilcoxArgh03:23
AidanLWhy is this happening?03:23
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awilcoxthe pure unadulteraded PG-13 horror of /connect flooding!03:23
jevangelojeez03:23
JockeTFooaaag03:24
JockeTFMy head...03:24
brianManffs03:24
con-man<3 net splits03:24
awilcox!netsplit03:24
ubotunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit03:24
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brianManI wish they could leave out the quit spam on netsplits03:24
godesswow03:24
awilcoxbrianMan yes03:24
jevangelo3 way netsplits are more fun03:24
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con-man<3 net splits03:24
con-man<3 net splits03:24
con-man<3 net splits03:24
con-man<3 net splits03:24
awilcoxAsc, back from the split yet?03:24
DBOcon-man, no spam please03:24
__mikemcon-man, watch it03:24
AidanLI am having this problem -Failed to fetch cdrom: [Ubuntu 6.10 _edgy eft_ release 1386 (20061025.1] /pool/main/g/gcj-41/libgcj7-0_4.1.1-14ubunutu7_1386.deb MD5Sum mismatch03:24
elyonawilcox - Just to let you know, Firefox just decided to start working again... go figure.03:24
awilcoxjevangelo, THREE WAY?  yipes03:24
Ascawilcox, it's a long shot but you might try installing xdm and trying to log in from there03:25
con-manIm sorry03:25
con-man:'(03:25
DarthLappybrianMan: irssi does.  Doesn't always eat the join spam though.03:25
awilcoxDarthLappy!03:25
awilcoxDarthLappy yeah irssi ate the quit but not the connect03:25
DarthLappyHallo.03:25
JockeTFWell, it is time for me to sleep now, oyasuminasai and happy new year!03:25
awilcoxDarthLappy I haven't seen you for ages, quick go to #AWOS now!03:25
godessnow can anyone help me out?03:25
AscI don't know about this one, but there were at least three seperate servers03:25
AscI'm guessing more like five03:25
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awilcoxHappy New Year JockeTF and goodnight03:26
awilcoxAsc wow really?03:26
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brianManDarthLappy That irssi doesn't show the quit/join spam doesn't mean it doesn't still get the data (which lags some people off) :(03:26
_TsU_what time is it there? :)03:26
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DarthLappybrianMan: That's true.  But there has to be some way...03:26
Ascawilcox: I joined a second server while it was out.  The one I was on had 109 people, and the one I joined had 169.  So there were at least three, and probably more.03:26
awilcox_TsU_ here it is 21:2603:26
awilcoxAsc wow.03:26
DarthLappy(To get the data to the users)03:27
cafuego_Did you really want 800 people telling you the time?03:27
awilcoxcafuego_ hahaha03:27
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brianManDarthLappy: I'm sure it's possible to make the server silently remove people when it's a netsplit and silently rejoin them on merge03:27
_TsU_awilcox, here we are 1/1/2007 and it's 3;27am :)03:27
awilcox_TsU_ well happy new year :)03:27
jevangeloif you join 2 or more servers during a netsplit03:28
_TsU_ty, u 2 :)03:28
jevangeloand they join back together again, does that cause a nick collision?03:28
brianManMaybe not on a default IRC server, but I'm sure there's some brilliant coders who can modify the Freenode servers to handle it more elegantly :(03:28
imbeciledoes anyone ever get a steady download rate on amule?03:28
cafuego_brianMan: It's a matter of making your irc client not list splits03:28
imbecilemaybe i'm thinking maybe im firewalled or something03:28
QwertyMhow do I configure my MPlayer to play avi etc? it says cant render all the time. Totem and Xine btw, run excellent!03:28
genericuserso, what exactly makes netsplit so common? is IRC flawed?03:28
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awilcoxAsc I will try XDM now, thanks03:29
kitcheDarthLappy: you you can ignore joins which I do03:29
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Ascawilcox: Everybody else having this problem either has their /tmp permissions set wrong, or is using glx03:29
absurdherohey, there doesn't seem to be a package with man pages for the standard C library03:29
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absurdheroif anyone knows of one, please enlighten me03:29
cafuego_absurdhero: manpages-dev03:29
alienseer23hello, can anybody here help me with azureus?03:29
DarthLappykitche: I wasn't complaining anyway.  I think brianMan's point is that each client stilll recieves the quit/join data whether they ignore or not.03:29
Ascawilcox: My final guess would be that maybe KDE doesn't know where the /tmp directory is.03:29
brianMancafuego: As I said to DarthLappy that doesn't keep the data from being sent to your IRC client. The massive ammount of data your client suddenly recieves (whether it shows it or not) can lags some people off, which also happens to be one of the ways bot attacks work03:29
awilcoxabsurdhero I believe it is already installed, try man printf03:29
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absurdherono, its not03:30
cafuego_brianMan: Well, not using a sucky client to begin with would help ;-)03:30
cafuego_absurdhero: Yes, it is.03:30
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absurdherothanks cafuego, that worked03:30
cafuego_oic :-)03:30
brianMancafuego: That's purely a question of individual taste and something we could argue for an eternity which client is the better ;)03:30
absurdheroI would have thought glibc-doc would have included those. Interesting. Well, thanks again03:30
cafuego_awilcox: printf is also a builtin03:31
imbecileanybody know how to maximize amules u/l-d/l rate? I can never get a steady connection03:31
awilcoxcafuego_ oh :)03:31
QwertyMMplayer says this : FATAL: Couldn't initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo)03:31
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cafuego_brianMan: Well, coping with data sent to it would be a good start <heh>03:31
QwertyMwhen I try playing a avi03:31
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EvilMikeI'm having a weird problem with my mouse, the sensitivity settings are kind of off, since low sensitivity seems to make the mouse pointer move faster, and if acceleration is off, the mouse moves at a painfully slow speed regardless of sensitivity03:31
brianMancafuego: mIRC handles it very well ;) (well, except for the spam is annoying to watch) other than that I don't complain ;)03:32
imbecileQwertyM, why dont you just use vlc player? it doesnt use codecs and is really reliable03:32
ootputhi guys, i can't seem to make openbox --replace stick b/w sessions03:32
QwertyMimbecile, thats right but am trying to write up some tests between the other video players, so need this one to play :)03:32
ootputatm, neither metacity nor openbox are active03:33
ootputand it's quite hard for me to click into an input field03:33
imbecileQwertyM, ok03:33
elyonQwertM - you could use Automatix2 to automatically setup all your codecs for you (it lets you use any player to view all video formats (even Windows ones)03:34
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awilcox!automatix03:34
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe03:34
Ascawilcox: Somebody said this about the error messages: "The message relates to KDM's icon view during login but that isn't Ubuntu's default--did you manually edit the configuration files to turn that on?"03:34
awilcoxQwertyM read that ^  as in, DON'T.03:34
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awilcoxAsc no03:34
jevangelowhat would be the difference of hosting a webserver on ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server03:34
awilcoxAsc I didn't do that03:34
elyonawilcox - hehe, where was that when this channel suggested it to me? lol03:34
elyonOf course, I haven't had any problems with it at all.03:34
awilcoxjevangelo, desktop comes with KDE/GNOME, server is just text-mode03:34
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awilcoxelyon hehe03:35
QwertyMelyon, awilcox I have all codecs installed, gstreamer, win32 etc, all players are doing great except this one lol03:35
QwertyMif automatix can fix that I am glad03:35
awilcoxHmm.03:35
jevangeloso, no standby modes or anything will cause disruption?03:35
Ascawilcox: Have you got any other DTEs or WMs you can try logging in to?03:35
awilcoxAsc no03:35
kitcheQwertyM: type in groups in a terminal and see what group your in03:35
jevangelojust loss of hardware resources because of the x guis?03:35
awilcoxI'm on nice comfy Cable Internet (7Mbps!  yeah!) so I could download all of them03:35
awilcoxAsc should I?03:35
elyonWell, everyone (especially awilcox), thanks for all your help.  I'm sure I'll be back again as I try to tackle this beast :P03:36
QwertyMcan some mplayer user say the settings on Prefrences > Codecs & Demixers ?03:36
Ascawilcox: No, not really.  They might work though, if the problem is with KDE.03:36
awilcoxelyon :)  np03:36
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ozzloymy system has updates that can't be authenticated, how do i trouble shoot that??03:36
elyonMoving my family from WinXP to Ubuntu has been interesting to say the least.03:36
QwertyMkitche, says "qwerty adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin"03:36
awilcoxelyon I just did that too03:36
jevangeloanyone know what im talking about?03:36
awilcoxelyon even my Grandma likes Ubuntu more than XP, she is *SICK* of Bill Gates :)03:36
kitcheQwertM hmm ok that's correct03:36
elyonlol03:36
jevangeloany difference in readily available software through synaptic?03:37
jevangelowith both03:37
elyonMy mother, who is COMPLETELY computer illiterate ("Where's the power button?") doesn't have a problem with Ubuntu either.03:37
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awilcoxelyon hehe03:37
awilcoxelyon, well my grandma isn't illiterate, she did programming in DOS03:37
EvilMikeWhat can I do to directly edit mouse sensitivity (the utility that comes with ubuntu isnt really working for me)?03:37
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genericuserEvilMike: hit your mouse with a hammer :-P03:38
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EvilMikeThat would be entertaining.03:39
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hassan2aslt tout le monde03:39
dmc_Network and EtherApe GUI apps in Gnome are not responsive anymore and force quit after clicking on them....Any suggestions for troubleshooting?03:39
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awilcoxgenericuser, EvilMike hahahaha03:40
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tripppyis it 07 everywhere now?03:40
tyme-no03:40
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genericusertripppy: not in the states03:40
tyme-2 more hours03:40
awilcoxhere 12/31/2006 21:4003:40
tyme-us east coast03:40
dmc_trippy:no...03:40
jbroomeUS is always behind. :P03:40
tripppyomg watch out for the y2k07 bug.03:41
ozzloyi'm in cali.  got 5 more hours of 200603:41
awilcoxtrippy hahaha03:41
awilcoxtrippy: watch out for the Y10K bug!03:41
awilcox9999+1=?03:41
awilcox:)03:41
Goshamy friend is running a VNC server and even set it on port 80 still i cant connect to it .. but i can ping his IP and get pings back03:41
genericusertripppy: there'll be a patch on apt within 3 weeks :-P03:41
imbecileozzloy, orange county here03:41
tripppyits 12hrrs into 07 and ive fucked 3 times03:41
ozzloyimbecile: san diego03:41
ootputhi guys, how do i get the run dialog without using the keyboard shortcut?03:41
imbecilenice03:41
ootputi'd like to add it to my panel03:41
tripppythis is going to be a good year03:42
tyme-your mom doesnt count =[03:42
awilcoxootput, ALT+F203:42
imbecilelol03:42
tripppyif she counts it would be 403:42
awilcoxoh WITHOUT the keyboard03:42
hassan2ahi geeks03:42
awilcoxootput, K menu -> Run?03:42
Ascawilcox, I suppose you're dead set on running KDE?03:42
arrenlexKDE is life.03:42
awilcoxAsc, yes, well this is my FRIEND's computer03:42
czedlitzeww03:42
ootputawilcox:  it's been taken out of gnome menu, i think03:42
genericusermeh, KDE is the minority03:42
czedlitzgnome is better03:42
awilcoxKDE FTW.03:42
dmc_arrenlex: how would i go about installing KDE?03:42
ootputwhip it out, and see who's biggest ;)03:43
awilcoxI hate GNOME, it's too much like Vista+XP+Mac+FVWM in one03:43
__mikemXFCE for the win03:43
awilcoxthey all suck03:43
ootputto each their own03:43
Ascawilcox: I suppose he's dead set on running KDE?03:43
awilcoxwell Mac is okay03:43
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genericuserKDE doesn't hide all the settings...03:43
awilcoxAsc yes SHE is.03:43
awilcox:)03:43
ozzloykde and gnome debates are pointless and irrelevent. .. gnome is the best.03:43
dmc_How would i go about installing KDE?03:43
arrenlexdmc_: KDE the desktop environment? KDE the application suite? Or Kubuntu the Linux distribution?03:43
genericuserdmc_: apt-get install kde03:43
awilcoxozzloy, I fully agree on pointless.  KDE is the best.03:43
AscHmm03:43
dmc_arrenlex: just the desktop03:43
awilcoxdmc_ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:43
ootputof course, thunar is the better file manager03:43
dom_kde is klunky03:43
ootputso, xfce03:43
arrenlexdmc_: apt-get install kde-core03:43
__mikemno dmc, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:43
genericuserdmc_: how much of kde do you want?03:44
ozzloyawilcox: ;)03:44
arrenlex__mikem: Didn't he just say he didn't want the whole of kubuntu?03:44
Ascawilcox: I'm very short on ideas now.  One of them would be to reinstall.03:44
dmc___mikem: whats kubuntu diff than ubuntu?03:44
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ootputkde instead of gnome03:44
ootputhence the K03:44
awilcoxAsc ahhhhhhh noooooo it takes forever to get the stupid hardware to work right03:44
__mikemdmc_ one uses kde other uses gnome03:44
dmc_ahhh i see03:44
dmc_as default install?03:44
ootputof course, the 'K' could also stand for 'Kiddy'03:44
__mikemyes03:44
ozzloyi love amarok, kde has that going for it03:44
dmc_wouldnt it be easier to just install the kde package?03:44
awilcoxdmc_ Kubuntu means happiness, and Ubuntu means like humanity or something like that03:44
genericusergah, mode +R?03:44
ootputwhat with all the fisher price colors ;)03:44
awilcoxozzloy yeah!03:45
awilcoxGNOME was okay until recently, then they got that stupid idiotic bar placement03:45
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tehArtistHello03:45
awilcoxIn fact, I know something that pwns ALL graphic environment.03:45
tehArtistI could use some help03:45
awilcoxText mode ftrw!03:45
ozzloyhow do i troubleshoot packages not being authenticated?03:45
ootputany of you know how to run two different wm's on a dual monitor setup?03:45
genericuserawilcox: without framebuffer too!03:46
ootputi don't need xinerama, or any thing of the sort03:46
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genericuserozzloy: run an apt-get update03:46
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genericuseralso, check your gpg keys03:46
__mikem!linspire03:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linspire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:46
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asdf_easiest way to get mplayer + all codecs?03:46
awilcox__mikem hehehehe03:46
ozzloygenericuser: thank you!03:46
awilcox!mplayer03:46
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile03:46
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.03:47
AscWhere does KDE keep its' config files?03:47
awilcoxasdf_ ^ read that.03:47
asdf_how do I enable multiverse repo?03:47
asdf_and what is it?03:47
tehArtistI have an HP Media Center M7160n, I'm attempting to install Ubuntu 6.10 edgy. When I boot the live CD, I have no keyboard support, so I attempted the alternative text based install, and It wants to know what disk drive driver I would like to use? Does anyone know which drive I should use for the Sata I 250GB drive?03:47
awilcox!multiverse | asdf_03:47
ubotuasdf_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource03:47
ozzloygenericuser: that was easy!  i was like "i grabbed the key, what am i doing wrong!  frustration!"03:47
asdf_!easye03:47
asdf_!easysource03:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about easye - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:47
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:47
__mikemawilcox, I resently come to posess a free copy of linspire 5-o03:47
asdf_!EasySource03:47
genericusertehArtist: depends on your hard drive controller, not your actual drive03:47
dmc_Tenartist: is it a USB keyboard?03:47
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awilcoxAsc well03:47
awilcoxAsc ~/kde/share/apps/...03:47
tehArtistNo dmc_ thats whats odd03:47
__mikemI don't plan on using it. SO I don't know what to do with it03:47
awilcoxAsc normally there03:48
awilcoxoops03:48
awilcox.kde03:48
genericuserozzloy: happened to me too :-\03:48
awilcox__mikem send it over here!  :)03:48
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tyme-has anyone successfully installed ATI drivers on Ubuntu 6.10?03:48
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__mikemawilcox, why would you use linspire when you have ubuntu?03:48
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tehArtistgenericuser, how do I go about choosing the proper HDD controller for an OEM?03:49
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genericusertehArtist: depends on your manufacturer - actually, if it wasn't auto-detected, you have problems03:49
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Ascawilcox: As a last resort, you could maybe search through those for references to tmp and face and see if one is wrong, but that's really grasping at straws03:49
tehArtistThats what I assumed03:49
genericusertyme-: try apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx?03:50
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AscGah, I need to get around to installing KDE so I can test this sort of thing03:50
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tyme-genericuser:  it's already installed.03:50
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ozzloytripppy: you've fucked 3 times and now you're on an irc channel?03:50
genericusertyme-: you edited xorg.conf to enable it?03:50
asteriasitalian?03:50
tyme-driver fglrx is in xorg.conf03:51
ozzloytripppy: go back, get more!03:51
genericuserozzloy: language...03:51
genericusertyme-: is there a specific reason you need fglrx? did you follow the instructions on the fglrx wiki page?03:51
tehArtistAny other *nix Distro's that have a partition resizer made into the install?03:51
ozzloygenericuser: not mine, that's what tripppy said.03:51
alex-weejtehArtist: Ubuntu?!03:51
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genericusertehArtist: dunno03:51
asteriasqualcuno parla italiano in chan?03:51
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ozzloygenericuser: sorry though03:51
genericuseralex-weej: he said "other"03:52
Ascawilcox: To make searching easier you could do something like 'sudo find -t file -exec cat {} \; | grep tmp > ~/tempfile' and go through the file.03:52
genericusertehArtist: MS Windows?03:52
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alex-weejgenericuser: oops i thought this was #gentoo03:52
genericuser:-P03:52
Ascbetter yet, grep /tmp03:52
genericuseralex-weej: common mistake? lol03:52
Asc(and run that in the .kde directory or it'll explode :p03:52
dom_i hate it when that happens03:52
awilcoxAsc hmm?03:53
tyme-!fglrx03:53
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:53
awilcoxAsc what do I do with that?03:53
dom_!?03:53
Ascawilcox: As a last resort, you could maybe search through those for references to tmp and face and see if one is wrong, but that's really grasping at straws03:53
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dom_what's the ! for?03:53
jbroome!it | asterias03:53
ubotuasterias: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:53
dom_hmm03:54
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awilcoxAsc03:54
awilcoxAsc it says03:54
awilcoxfind: invalid predicate `-t'03:54
Ascawilcox: But, yeah.  Let me know how xdm works out.03:54
Ascoh, okay03:54
Asc'sudo find -type f -exec cat {} \; | grep tmp'03:55
Ascmy bad03:55
Ascand > ~.tempfile03:55
awilcoxtempfile is blank03:55
asteriasubotu: posso farti una domandina ti ringrazio in anticipo03:55
AscThat's that then.03:56
awilcoxFarti?  like, gas?03:56
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Innomenwell its installing, and its taking its sweet time03:56
awilcox"Take your sweet, sweet time; I will be there when you change your mind"03:56
asteriasubotu: ma se uso driver audio propietari nel kernel devo attivare qualcosa per l'audio?03:56
awilcoxthat's a song.03:56
Innomenhmmm, havent heard it03:56
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awilcoxOh Lord, Asterias is talking to the bot03:57
kitcheasterias: join #ubuntu-it03:57
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awilcoxasterias: bot no comprendo.  join #ubuntu-it03:57
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awilcoxInnomen, Jesse McCartney03:57
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theflyingfooli am having some really bad times trying to get my usb hdd to mount, its ntfs, i need to read and write it03:57
Innomennoted03:58
awilcoxtheflyingfool, fuse03:58
awilcox!fuse03:58
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse03:58
awilcoxI think I'll reinstall ubuntu03:58
awilcoxI'm getting nowhere03:58
dom_i get it03:58
dom_ubotu is a bot03:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:58
dom_listening for !'s03:58
awilcoxthanks Asc ArrenLex and auTONYmity03:58
genericuserlol03:58
awilcoxdom_ yes03:58
Innomenawilcox: still scrwed eh?03:58
dom_can i get a listing of commands he's listening for?03:58
awilcox:)03:58
awilcoxInnomen yes03:58
dom_!help03:58
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:58
Innomengreat new years for you :/03:58
dom_ha!03:58
Ascawilcox: Wish I knew how to fix it.  Good luck with the reinstall.03:59
awilcoxAsc thanks03:59
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awilcoxInnomen thanks, you too03:59
=== Innomen mirrior's Asc's sentiment
Innomenyou'll sqaure it away i have no doubts03:59
awilcoxyeah03:59
theflyingfooli have fuse and still no luck03:59
AscWhat's that, I get a login on your server?04:00
JaeSharphmm, does nvidia's proprietary driver support AIGLX? I was thinking about getting a 7600GT...04:00
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TheDebuggerJaeSharp: The beta drivers support it04:01
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ceacrohello world04:02
JaeSharpTheDebugger> excellent <g> thanks :)04:02
ceacroHappy New year everyone04:02
Innomenceacro: thanx :)04:02
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JaeSharpceacro> indeed, and to you as well :)04:02
|lastExilE|happy new year04:02
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|lastExilE|not there yet here04:02
Innomenwe're all dorks04:02
Innomenwe should all be drunk somewhere04:02
Innomenfondling someone04:02
|lastExilE|on irc on new years, yep04:02
ceacroI wish you get a lot of monet as well as health04:02
jbroomepaintings?04:02
Innomenceacro: thank you, thats very sweet, i wish the same and better for oyu04:03
Innomenjbroome: extra dork points for you04:03
jbroomewoot!04:03
|lastExilE|lmao04:03
Innomenfor bonus round, what style does monet paint in without google04:03
|lastExilE|what are we all listening to tonight?04:03
superkirbyartistSkippy MP3!  I use Xubuntu and gxine to play MP3s and it skips a lot!04:03
Innomenpointalism, I WIN!04:03
Innomeni think04:03
Innomenanyway04:03
theflyingfooli think i am retarded, i cant get my ntfs usb hdd to mount04:04
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|lastExilE|monet? pointilism um not his major works04:04
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jevangelowhat are the advantages of running a streaming music php page on server as apposed to desktop04:04
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Innomen|lastExilE|: you win then :P04:04
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InnomenImpressionist04:04
Innomenyea04:04
san-manMonet was an impressionist painter.04:05
ozzloywe are dorks04:05
|lastExilE|yeah i couldnt name it though04:05
Innomenme either04:05
Innomenwiki told me04:05
|lastExilE|lol04:05
Ascsuperkirbyartist, 'sudo hdparm /dev/hd*' | grep using_dma' and make sure dma is on on all your disks04:05
siv0xAnyone familiar with wine/steam/cs ?04:05
jevangelowhat are the advantages of running a streaming music php page on server as apposed to desktop??04:05
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Ascbut without any of the apostrophes04:06
|lastExilE|siv0x, I dont know much about it, havent done it, but I know you'll be after better compat with somthing like cedega rather than wine04:06
Ascincluding the one after the *04:06
|lastExilE|ok its just about time to pull out the MC Hawking mp3s04:07
SurfnKidum04:07
SurfnKidhow do i know if my modem is installed correctly04:07
archangelpetrohas anyone here heard of sopcast?04:07
SurfnKidplease help04:07
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SurfnKidhow do you dial up in ubuntu04:07
Ascsurfinkid: Is it an external modem, or a winmodem?04:08
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SurfnKidwell04:08
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SurfnKidinternal04:08
SurfnKidmy laptop has nearly everything working 100%04:08
theflyingfooldoes anyone have experance mounting ntfs on external drives? i cant get it working04:08
SurfnKidjust dont know if the modem is ready for dialup04:08
SurfnKidAsc, how would you queue it04:09
superkirbyartistIt's slow and that's no lie it about as much fun as watching paint dry.04:09
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superkirbyartist!dialup04:09
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto04:09
dom_!boogers04:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about boogers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:09
dom_!women04:09
ubotuThe women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.04:09
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superkirbyartistThe grep command IS SLOW.04:09
SurfnKidsuperkirbyartist, thx04:09
dom_!how to get down with the ladies04:09
san-manI'm preparing to install Ubuntu on a computer with a SATA II 300 hard drive. I recall that there were compatability problems with SATA hard drives several months ago, but I can't find anything current on this issue. Have the SATA hard drive  compatability problems been resolved?04:09
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|lastExilE|!existence04:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about existence - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:09
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Ascsurfnkid: Yeah, what ubotu said is probably your best bet.  I could help with an external modem.04:10
dom_!relativity04:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about relativity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:10
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superkirbyartistSurfnKid: No prob, dialup card for laptop worked for me without setup.04:10
jbroome!botabuse | dom_04:10
ubotudom_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...04:10
Ascsuperkirbyartist: it shouldn't be.  That command took me a good fraction of a second to run04:10
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Innomenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yArPNtiQDcM&eurl= heheh04:10
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Innomensorry04:10
|lastExilE|!psiognymy04:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about psiognymy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:10
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SurfnKidsuperkirbyartist, nice04:10
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superkirbyartistAsc: I'm talking Pentium MMX 266mhz 2GB HD 172MB RAM04:10
Innomenisnt that where you get to marry lotz of girls?04:10
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jbroome!botabuse | |lastExilE|04:11
ubotu|lastExilE|: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...04:11
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dom_...he started it04:11
|lastExilE|oops04:11
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Ascsuperkirbyartist: Okay, but still not more than a few seconds probably04:11
superkirbyartistI ctrl+C it it was slow.04:11
Ascsuperkirbyartist: Might be worth checking the spelling. "sudo hdparm /dev/hd* | grep using_dma"04:11
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|lastExilE|kirby: what kernel vsn?04:12
superkirbyartistAll values equal one.04:12
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Arigatohow is the load measured?04:13
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AscYeah.  My computer's ten times faster, but it took 0.004 seconds of CPU time.04:13
|lastExilE|dont bother running a grep then. just pipe it into a file and then grep that04:13
|lastExilE|cat | grep it04:13
AscOkay.  I had skippy mp3 on old hardware for a while and dma was the culprit04:13
superkirbyartist|lastexile| wait04:13
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Ascsuperkirbyartist: HAve you tried any other players?04:14
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superkirbyartistAfter running comand still skips.  Asc: I would like a compiled madplay, please.04:14
archangelpetrohas anyone here heard of sopcast??  anyone at all?04:14
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|lastExilE|yeah its going to still be the same, we hadnt issued a change to the dma mode yet04:15
|lastExilE|we wanted to see if it was using dma04:15
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superkirbyartistI'm using dma and still skips with all CPU activity.04:15
Ascsuperkirbyartist: just for fun, use the console to run mplayer on one of the files04:15
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superkirbyartistWhere can I get madplay?04:16
ShayGuyHey. I'm back, using a second computer.04:16
ShayGuyRemember me?04:16
Innomeni do04:16
Ascsuperkirbyartist: Could be tricky, we're using different kernels.04:16
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superkirbyartistmplayer?04:16
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|lastExilE|anyone remember that old curses player... cant remember the name of it04:17
superkirbyartistAsc: How do you know?  And where can I get a command line player.04:17
Ascsuperkirbyartist: I think it should come with a standard install.  'mplayer filename'04:17
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|lastExilE|mp3blaster04:17
superkirbyartistmplayer is not a command04:17
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|lastExilE|kirby: vlc04:17
Ascsuperkirbyartist: I'm using a kernel compiled for 686, which wouldn't work on your hardware.04:17
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superkirbyartistIs one installed already?  Where can I download a small command line player?04:18
Ascsuperkirbyartist: Do you have spare disk space to play with?04:18
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superkirbyartistNot vlc, takes long to download.04:18
superkirbyartistAsc: like 500mb04:18
|lastExilE|kirby: mp3blaster a great low overhead curses based mp3 player04:18
superkirbyartist|lastexile| how to obtain it?04:18
Ascsuperkirbyartist: madplay is in the repositories.  'sudo apt-get install madplay'04:18
|lastExilE|http://mp3blaster.sourceforge.net/04:18
ShayGuyUnder "network settings," it says "Wireless connection: This network interface is not configured"04:18
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|lastExilE|you'll need to compile ti04:19
superkirbyartistThank you!  I needed a precompiled apt-get mp3 player!04:19
Ascsuperkirbyartist: You can also use 'sudo apt-get install mplayer' to get mplayer, but it's a 3.5 MB download.04:19
|lastExilE|well then apt-get mp3blaster04:20
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|lastExilE|its in the repos04:20
superkirbyartistIt's very tiny madplay!04:20
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kitche!madplay04:20
ubotumadplay: MPEG audio player in fixed point. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.15.2b-4 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 152 kB04:20
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superkirbyartist|lastexile| any differences?  Will it hog bandwidth?04:20
|lastExilE|differences?04:20
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ShayGuySo, how /do/ I configure my network interface?04:22
superkirbyartistNo skip with madplay!  Ubuntu rocks!  Even if I move mouse and stuff on my 266mhz laptop, NO SKIP!!!  Thank you!04:22
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alex-weejShayGuy: System -> Administration -> Networking04:23
arn0ldcould anyone help me with some mouse problems04:23
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superkirbyartistThanks anyways, |lastexile|, but I can't afford bandwidth to download anything else.04:23
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arn0ldmy mouse move way to fast and its already on the lowest settings availible in the gui04:23
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|lastExilE|no worries kirby04:23
ShayGuyYeah, I was in there.04:23
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superkirbyartistWe salute you ^_^04:24
ShayGuy"Network name"...dunno if there's actually a named network here.04:24
|lastExilE|btw mp3blaster is 302kb04:24
AscFor me, madplay uses more CPU but less memory04:24
ShayGuyIn Windows, it said "connected to default"...04:24
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|lastExilE|to each their own04:25
|lastExilE|he did say he had 172 mb ram04:25
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duttahi guys i need help. want to delete kubuntu from my PC and try some other distro. But dont know in which partition it is in. can u help me?04:25
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arn0lddoes anyone know of a file or something i could edit to manually lower the mouse speed /accel04:25
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duttahello someone?04:26
alienseer23 i downloaded the latest java fre from sun, and installed azureus from synaptic (under linux) and it won't start, acan someone help me out, please?04:26
conicid try install a different mouse driver04:26
AscYeah, but it uses *a lot* more CPU.  By like a factor of eight or more.04:26
conicsynaptic would of installed the correct java version04:26
|lastExilE|which does04:26
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arn0ldok ill try messing around with that04:26
Ascmadplay04:27
hassan2ashut up arnold04:27
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arn0ld?04:27
pSyONiDezed.org04:27
hosiahHappy New Year in the American time zones!04:27
Ascmplayer uses about .01s of CPU time every eight seconds, and madplay uses closer to 1604:27
weem<hosiah> Happy New Year in the American time zones!04:27
weemisnt new year yet :(04:27
arn0ldsomething wrong hassan2a04:27
hosiahI'm early04:28
|lastExilE|ouch. I was saying to try mp3blaster, not madplay04:28
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|lastExilE|an hour and 25 mins here04:28
|lastExilE|calgary sucks04:28
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ozzloy|lastExilE|: you're in canada?04:29
|lastExilE|something like that04:29
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AscI remember using a 150 mhz windows machine.  You couldn't play mp3s and do anything interesting at the same time.04:29
|lastExilE|depends on what you used to play it with04:29
|lastExilE|and how much patience you had04:29
ozzloy|lastExilE|: say "hi!" to lauren for me, if you see her igloo from your dogsled during the 3 month winter night time04:29
|lastExilE|lmao04:29
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conicyou can just put the mp3 player on high priority and it will never skip04:30
|lastExilE|yeah but then X will seem to hang04:30
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|lastExilE|particularly if a swap occurs04:30
hosiahHere in Iowa, we didn't get a white Christmas, but it made up for it with snow for New Year's!04:30
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ShayGuySo, how about my network connection...?04:31
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Aschmm, yeah.  mp3blaster uses about as much as mplayer04:31
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con-mangrrrr, im having trouble with mounting dvds, and playing them for that matter04:32
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conicanyone use xmms2 on ubuntu ?04:32
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|lastExilE|<con-man> try vlc04:32
|lastExilE|vlc04:32
con-manI cant eject my dvd now04:32
con-manor unmount it04:32
conicwhats the error message04:32
|lastExilE|what message are you getting on unmount?04:32
conicdevice busy ?04:33
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|lastExilE|open a terminal, sudo -s, and then type umount /dev/hdc04:33
woodwizzleIs there a Qt theme I can download that looks just like edgy's gtk theme?04:33
woodwizzleso that qt apps will look the same or similar to my gtk ones?04:33
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|lastExilE|wizzle- try kde-look.org for themes04:33
con-man|lastExilE|: it tells me its not mounted, but it has to be if I cannot eject it04:34
|lastExilE|and gnome-look.org for corresponding gtk and metacity ones04:34
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deathmassup ppl04:34
Innomeni want to be batshit insane when i grow up04:34
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|lastExilE|conman: how many cd drives do you have04:34
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Aar0n444Hi04:34
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AWOSLappyWhere to go for MemTest86 questions?04:35
hosiahInnomen> I got that way when Igrew up, and I don't regret it for a bit.04:35
peacekpranyone been able to get synce-gnomevfs installed on edgy for amd64?04:35
con-man|lastExilE|: 4 DVD Burners (dont ask why, I just do)04:35
Innomenhosiah: good to know i'm on the right path :)04:35
AWOSLappyInnomen, got what way?  what did I miss?04:35
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Aar0n444On my laptop, I've installed using 'pci=noacpi' and that's all fine. Just my NIC doesn't work. It's not even recognised. Any ideas?04:35
|lastExilE|lmao ok you'll have to try umount /dev/hdX where X is b, c, d, e etc04:35
con-manAar0n444: is it turned on in the bios?04:36
Aar0n444Yeah04:36
InnomenAWOSLappy: peanut butter is not conductive, dont ask04:36
Innomenbrb04:36
AWOSLappyInnomen, sorry, but what?  you mean, you found that out?04:36
con-manAar0n444: and there is no power save thing? some laptops turn off the nic when on battery to save power04:36
peacekprAar0n444, what type of laptop?04:36
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|lastExilE|youre talking about wake on lan04:37
deathmasI am installing nubuntu now and was wondering how hard its going to be to get my sound running and set up kde in it using apt-get04:37
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Aar0n444No power-save to my knowledge. It's an Acer travelmate 212TXV04:37
con-man|lastExilE|: yeah ive tried all the drivers, it tells me it is not mounted04:37
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|lastExilE|conman: ok then reboot your machine04:37
|lastExilE|pull out the disk when it turns off04:37
con-man|lastExilE|: that will fix it04:37
|lastExilE|try it04:37
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con-man|lastExilE|: but I dont want to do that every time04:37
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con-man|lastExilE|: i know that will get the disc out04:38
peacekprAar0n444, hmm... no experience with an Acer04:38
asteriaspatching file arch/arm/mach-omap2/prcm.c04:38
asteriasReversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n] 04:38
hosiahinstalling Linux on New Year's Eve? Me so geeky, me hack you long time!04:38
asteriaswere ii?04:38
asteriasis?04:38
Aar0n444I'm only trying to get this to work, so I can apt-get something that I need to get ndiswrapper working04:38
|lastExilE|conman: yeah I understand that, but if you reboot you'll reset the hotplug subsystem, and maybe everything will eb fine04:38
Aar0n444Apparently I need the kernel source04:38
|lastExilE|we are getting to windows level of complexity with our HALs and such04:38
con-man|lastExilE|: tried that about 30 mins ago04:39
con-man|lastExilE|: dont wanna reboot again04:39
|lastExilE|well then say that04:39
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|lastExilE|its hard to troubleshoot something when you dont know what steps have already been taken04:39
con-manthat is the only step ive taken04:39
|lastExilE|im out04:39
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con-mani know rebooting will fix it04:39
con-mandamnit04:39
seanj:(04:39
ShayGuySo, my network connection?04:39
deathmasmy connections works04:40
deathmasdont know how tho04:40
con-manhow do I kill a process?  kill xxxxx?04:40
deathmasi didnt even try to connect04:40
deathmaslol04:40
con-manand is that number from ps -A04:40
deathmaswireless card works and connected04:40
deathmasLoL04:40
dom_what's the --sm-disable switch do?04:40
peacekprAar0n444, install linux-headers04:40
seanjor killall processname04:40
con-manok04:40
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seanjif it doesnt work use the kill -904:40
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seanjlike, killall -9 firefox04:41
Innomen1 bar cream chesse, 1 tblspoon vanilla extract, 6 tblspoons butter, 1 cup confectionaers sugar, 1 grancracker crust one hand blender04:41
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Aar0n444peacekpr: How, when I'm trying to do this so i CAN connect to the net04:41
Innomenyeilds 6 servings dibetes04:41
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peacekpruse your ethernet card? are you having Wifi problems or ethernet problems?04:42
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theflyingfoolwhat does it mean if an ntfs is unclean04:42
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theflyingfooland how do i fix it04:42
Aar0n444My ethernet isn't even detected. My WiFi is, but doesn't work. So I'm trying to get ndiswrapper working04:42
cafuego_theflyingfool: Boot wodnwos, fix disk.04:43
theflyingfooli dont have windows04:43
theflyingfoolits on an external hdd04:43
deathmasAar0n444 what card u using04:43
cafuego_theflyingfool: Plug it into windows box, fix disk04:43
Ascy04:43
Aar0n444deathmas: For ethernet, no idea. For WiFi, D-Link DWL-G650+04:44
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Ryugihello04:44
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nelsonuwpanyone ever have any problems with the dvd playback in 6.10?04:44
peacekprAar0n444, why did you use pci=noacpi ?04:44
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con-manhow do I kill a process listed in ps -A04:44
cafuego_nelsonuwp: I do, Totem basically won't. mplayer works fine, though.04:44
Ryugihas anyone here ever setup  an ubuntu machine as a gateeway router?04:44
Aar0n444I read about others using it because their machines wouldn't boot. Mine wouldn't either, so I tried it and it then worked.04:45
Asccon-man: kill [process number] 04:45
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nelsonuwpcafuego_: i read something saying it should work, but I dont have the libdvd file..or package04:45
Asccon-man: If you want to, you can also use 'kill $(prgrep [process name] ' to find and kill all instances of a process name04:45
cafuego_nelsonuwp: I do, and it will won't work <heh>04:46
AWOSLappyInnomen, one it's spelled DIAbetes, and two I have it so that's not funny :-(04:46
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Ascwith a closing parenthesis though04:46
cafuego_nelsonuwp: Install 'libdvdread3' and then run the script in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples04:46
peacekprAar0n444, wouldn't boot meaning it wouldn't detect the hard drive?04:46
nelsonuwpi dont have that file04:46
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deathmasdam04:46
theflyingfooldo i need to create an entry in fstab for an external drive?04:46
cafuego_Like I saidk, install the package first04:46
deathmasok heres my big prob04:46
Aar0n444Okay, I meant once I press Enter to boot the Live CD, it would just go round and round and round04:46
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deathmasI just ran nubuntu install and it failed to install grub04:46
cafuego_theflyingfool: Normally it woul dget automounted under /media and listed on the desktop.04:47
deathmasso if i reboot i dont think its gonna work04:47
theflyingfooleven if its ntfs?04:47
deathmasanyway I can do it from this live cd running04:47
nelsonuwpcafuego_: is it already therewith ubuntu?04:47
nelsonuwpor do I need to dl it?04:47
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cafuego_nelsonuwp: Not if you doidn't install it. Check with 'dpkg -l libdvdread3'04:47
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[shroom] Is anyone using an x86_64 kernel on an MSI K9N Platinum (non-SLI) motherboard?04:48
peacekprAar0n444, hmm... not the issue was thinking... if it was your hard drive, i'd suggest using "pci=nomsi" and give it a whirl04:48
peacekprthen you'd get your NIC back04:48
ShayGuyCan /anyone/ help me with my connection?04:48
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deathmasHELP I need to install a boot loader before I reboot04:49
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Aar0n444Peachkpr, I put in the live CD, I boot into it, then I press F6, then I just add to the end "pci=nomsi"  ?04:49
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peacekprdeathmas... did you try to look at how to install GRUB ?04:49
peacekpryes04:50
con-mansomething is using my dvd, cause I cant eject it04:50
peacekpras a kernel option04:50
chip__hi04:50
nelsonuwpcafuego_:  no packages found04:50
cafuego_nelsonuwp: 'sudo apt-get install libdvdread3'04:50
peacekprAar0n444, not going to promise it will work, but worth a shot :)04:50
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deathmaspeacekpr it failed when I ran the install to install nubuntu grub failed to install can I do it manually04:50
Aar0n444Just trying it now04:50
ski-worklapuhm. i have a weird problem with my desktop. /media/scratch is being called a "}\n\t\n}\n}\n\n1;"04:51
maddashxfree86 vs. x.org?04:51
ski-worklaphttp://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p133/bugmeshiz/icon-renaming-wtf-1.png04:51
chip__I'm new to Linux and ubuntu but am not new to PCs...  I have three questions concerning three different issues.04:51
peacekprdeathmas, googling how to install GRUB is where my expertise on the subject ends04:51
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peacekpr;)04:51
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ski-worklapanyone know how to fix? right clicking the sucka gives no option for renaming it, and gnome's putting it on my desktop whenever i mount so there is no file to change (that i can find)04:51
peacekpri'm scared of messing with the bootloader04:51
peacekprhehe04:51
AWOSLappymaddash, they both suck.  stick with Xorg though, it comes with Ubuntu04:51
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Aar0n444peacekpr, no luck.04:52
Aar0n444I don't think04:52
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peacekprAar0n444, bummer04:52
nelsonuwpcafuego_: could not get lock blah blah blah, unable to lock the administration directory04:52
maddashawoslappy: why do they suck? what doesn't suck? and I did a server install of ubuntu, so I can go w/either, I thnk04:52
AWOSLappynelsonuwp, put "sudo " in front of it04:52
maddashawoslappy: I'd be happy with a link you can provide04:52
cafuego_nelsonuwp: make sure no other package admin tool is currently running and try again.04:52
peacekprAar0n444, and you said you can't get into your BIOS to mess with the power saving options?04:52
nelsonuwpAWOSLappy: i did04:52
AWOSLappymaddash well XFree86 is not compatible with a lot of hardware, and Xorg eats memory.04:52
Aar0n444I can get into the BIOS fine04:52
AWOSLappyI can give you no links04:52
chip__when trying to access gmail, Firefox shutsdown on it's own04:52
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AWOSLappynelsonuwp, close Adept and Synaptic (if they are open)04:52
ShayGuyCan anyone see this, or is something wrong?04:53
nelsonuwpaha04:53
kitchemaddash: only thing that xfree86 is wrong is the license that's why xorg was made04:53
nelsonuwpcoudlnt find the package04:53
superkirbyartistCan someone help me install criawips please?04:53
maddashawoslappy: what doesn't suck? aqua? explorer.exe?04:53
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robtpsuperkirbyartist: straight apt-get or synpatic or adept doesnt work?04:53
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AWOSLappymaddash, as of yet they ALL suck.04:53
AWOSLappysorry.04:53
maddashLOL04:53
robtp!package criawips04:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about package criawips - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:53
superkirbyartistApt-get, all manners don't work, robtp :(04:53
robtpermm04:54
robtpsuperkirbyartist: are you running edgy or dapper?04:54
superkirbyartist!criawips04:54
nelsonuwpAWOSLappy:couldn't find the package libdvdread304:54
ubotucriawips: A Presentation application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.11-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 176 kB04:54
peacekprAar0n444, google turned up no help, eh?04:54
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superkirbyartistedgy xubuntu robtp04:54
Aar0n444I've Googled, just nothing seems to really help04:54
Aar0n444Aha, it's done something04:54
Aar0n444"/bing/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off04:54
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peacekprAar0n444, dunno what that means ;)04:55
Aar0n444(initramfs"04:55
un_operateursuperkirbyartist, errm, why does apt-get not work?04:55
Aar0n444Then just other stuff04:55
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kitcheAar0n444: that is a bad error04:55
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robtpsuperkirbyartist: see the messages i sent to you?04:55
Aar0n444So what can I do then kitche04:55
superkirbyartistNpe robtp sorry dialup.04:55
ShayGuyNow, what about my wireless connection?04:56
robtpsuperkirbyartist: did you enable the unvirse component which criawips is in?04:56
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superkirbyartistYes.04:56
robtpsuperkirbyartist: run synaptic, go to Edit > ok nevermind04:56
robtpand youve since apt-get updated?04:56
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superkirbyartistIt says "packets defectueux" when I apt-get, peeps.04:57
robtpsuperkirbyartist: in english does that mean packets lost?04:57
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epitronhaha this is awesome04:57
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epitroni've been running this ubuntu machine for so long that apt-get segfaults now04:57
superkirbyartistrobtp: Defective/broken package but earlier there are also dependency problems.04:57
epitronit's been up for 563 days04:58
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epitronno wait, 59804:58
DigitalNinjaI'm trying to help someone get kubuntu edgy up and running. I'm on dapper. Can they install synaptic?04:58
robtpsuperkirbyartist: try apt-get dist-upgrade and/or apt-get -f install04:58
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FunnyLookinHatWhat's the desktop search program for gnome desktop?04:58
brueniglocate04:58
robtpFunnyLookinHat: Beagle04:58
bruenigwhereis04:58
epitronit's amazing that it's still running after 600 days. it was breezy when it booted, and now it's dapper :)04:58
bruenigwhich04:58
bruenigfind04:58
AWOSLappyDigitalNinja, they already have Adept which is KDE's synaptic04:58
FunnyLookinHatrobtp, thanks04:58
un_operateurFunnyLookinHat, gnome-search-tool?04:58
bruenigthose are some good ones04:58
robtpbruenig: well... i think he was asking along different lines04:59
AWOSLappyDigitalNinja but yes they can, but it's very very sucky because they must install GNOME libs04:59
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chip__Hi everyoe, I just got xbuntu up and running, my first attempt at Linux, I have few questions on three areas I need help on04:59
robtpFunnyLookinHat: beagle isnt installed by default, gnome-search-tool is always there but its not very nice imo04:59
DigitalNinjaAWOSLappy: I see. What's wrong with GNOME libs?04:59
DigitalNinja: )04:59
bruenigchip__, fire away04:59
robtpchip__: shoot04:59
AWOSLappyDigitalNinja, /me hates GNOME -- AND it uses 110M disk space!04:59
nelsonuwpAWOSLappy: if not package is found that means I need to go download it?04:59
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chip__Ok first, Firefox keeps shutting down when logging into gmail04:59
DigitalNinjaAWOSLappy: I'll just tell them to use Adept.05:00
superkirbyartistSame old, unless you have another lightweight presentation program.05:00
FunnyLookinHatI was looking for beagle...  I couldn't recall what it's called05:00
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AWOSLappynelsonuwp, you trying libdvdcss3 or whatever05:00
AWOSLappy!libdvdcss05:00
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:00
hassan2agood morning05:00
AWOSLappy!libdvdcss | nelsonuwp05:00
ubotunelsonuwp: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:00
AWOSLappy^ Read the Wiki!05:00
bruenigchip__, I can't think of any reason why that would happen05:00
nelsonuwpyes05:01
nelsonuwpwell no05:01
nelsonuwpAWOSLappy: im trying to install libdvdread305:01
BigBamBochip_: does it shut at any other side ?05:01
BigBamBosite05:01
hassan2agood morning all05:01
nelsonuwp!libdvdread305:01
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ubotulibdvdread3: library for reading DVDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 180 kB05:01
chip__it happens on other sites as well, I'm trying to find them but I think it has to do with the language or programming gmail uses.05:01
Aar0n444I think I might need to use 'irqpoll' option. Should I type 'linux irqpoll' or just 'irqpoll'05:01
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chip__it works fine on regular html sites05:02
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hassan2ahello all05:02
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chip__I'm not using dial-up, I have FiOS05:02
bruenigchip__, you can use gmail in normal html05:02
superkirbyartistchip__ hmmm... don't know what to say how old is PC?05:02
hassan2afuck off05:02
chip__PC is a laptop on a three year old system05:03
superkirbyartist!language | hassan2a05:03
ubotuhassan2a: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:03
BigBamBochip_: do you know for sure you are connecting to the internet?05:03
AWOSLappy!language | hassan2a05:03
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pickles_anyone used linux-phc?05:03
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maul555_does ubuntu use x.org?05:03
AWOSLappymaul555_ yes05:03
bruenigmaul555, yes05:03
superkirbyartistOkay, who can help me with criawips, please?05:03
maul555_cool05:03
maul555_thx05:03
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chip__I'd hope I'm connected to the net or how else am I talking to you guys and able to browse others sites ( :-) )05:03
con-man_i added this command but it wont work: bash: /usr/local/bin/wow: Permission denied05:03
robtpsuperkirbyartist: did you try the two things i suggested?05:03
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superkirbyartistchip__ sorry but I can't help you much.05:03
superkirbyartistchip__ PM me05:03
maddashcon-man: prefix with "sudo"05:03
ShayGuyStupid IRC...05:04
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superkirbyartistrobtp: I did apt-get -f didn't work.  What was other one?05:04
con-man_sudo: wow: command not found05:04
BigBamBochip_: on reflection that was a stupid question05:04
ShayGuyI still don't know how to fix my wireless connection.05:04
bruenigif wow is world of warcraft, I wouldn't think that it should be run as root05:04
superkirbyartistwow = for linux?05:04
maddashcon-man: what did you issue to the cmd-line?05:04
robtpsuperkirbyartist: its prob not gonna help, but apt-get dist-upgrade05:04
un_operateurcon-man_, type -a sudo05:04
siv0xCould anyone help me get sound ingame, i'm using wine to emulate steam to run counter strike source. I dont hear a beep when i use  cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp, #winehq said that i need to get my ALSAs OSS Emulator working, as far as i know it is.. but still no sound05:04
chip__it's okay BigBam...  I figured it was05:04
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hassan2aHello all05:04
maul555_is x.org 6.8 used in ubuntu 6.10 x86?05:05
con-man_bash: -a: command not found05:05
maddashLOL05:05
con-man_:D05:05
maddashcon-man: tell me what you typed05:05
maddashcon-man: the whole thing05:05
superkirbyartistNo way robtp!  Bandwidth killer!  I'm on dialup!05:05
con-man_sudo wow05:05
un_operateurlol con-man_  -- as is "type -a sudo" :))05:05
bruenig!ops | hassan2a is back, just figured I would give a heads up05:05
ubotuhassan2a is back, just figured I would give a heads up: Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!05:05
con-man_sudo: wow: command not found05:05
billsteichip__, does gmail use java ?05:05
hassan2ahello man con05:05
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roberr..05:05
con-man_sudo is /usr/bin/sudo05:05
con-man_sudo is /usr/bin/X11/sudo05:05
hassan2ai don't understand sorry xD05:05
DBObruenig, he hasnt done anything worth removing him again05:05
maddashcon-man: are you trying to issue a "wow" command?05:06
robexactly05:06
bruenighence heads up05:06
ShayGuy /msg nickserv link ShayGuy 913green05:06
maddashcon-man: what are you trying to do?05:06
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DBOok I will watch bruenig, thank you05:06
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robtpsuperkirbyartist: there are a lot to do?05:06
hassan2aman con05:06
superkirbyartist50 MB robtp05:06
un_operateurcon-man_, what does issuing /usr/bin/sudo give you?05:06
chip__I think it's a java thing, I just visited a java game site and it closed on me...05:06
siv0xAnyone? please... i've been trying to get this to work for two days..05:06
con-manim trying to run wow without having to type /usr/local/bin/wine /home/con-man/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft/wow.exe -opengl05:06
hassan2aune opratrice ?05:06
maul555_is x.org 6.8 used in ubuntu 6.1????05:07
chip__I have installed the java plugins and apps05:07
maul555_is x.org 6.8 used in ubuntu 6.10????05:07
maddashcon-man: shell script?05:07
con-manyup05:07
robtpsuperkirbyartist: it does the same thing when i try to install so, ill see about resolving it here05:07
maul555_coo] 05:07
hassan2ahello maul55505:07
bruenigchip__, you aren't running on 64 bit05:07
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ShayGuy /msg nickserv Identify ShayGuy 913green05:07
maddashcon-man: ok, so just create an sh file and paste in that command05:07
robtpsuperkirbyartist: the package is broken05:07
bruenig?05:07
un_operateurcon-man, maybe -- wine "/path/to/file.exe" ?05:08
billsteichip__, you can check to see what plugins are in Firefox by typing about:plugins into the address bar of firefox05:08
con-manwhere do I put that sh file05:08
siv0xcon-man: ln -s  /usr/local/bin/wine /home/con-man/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft/wow.exe05:08
hassan2ahello con-man05:08
maddashcon-man: /usr/bin05:08
superkirbyartistrobtp: I need to use madplay for mp3, because this laptop is kinda old.  Please do try to help me install Criawips or lightweight presentation program.05:08
con-manok05:08
maddashcon-man: you'll need sudo to do that...05:08
chip__www.addictinggames.com closes firefox as well as gmail05:08
hassan2agood morning billstei05:08
maddashcon-man: do you have gedit? type into a command line, "sudo gedit /usr/bin/wow"05:08
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fiendskull9hey05:09
billsteichip__, which addicting game?  I will try it05:09
un_operateursiv0x, errm, that's attempting to overwrite his wow.exe thingy05:09
fiendskull9i cant get a static ip working on my server05:09
robtpsuperkirbyartist: hmmm, you could try the kde one which is pretty lightweight but its gonna pull in a lot of dependecies05:09
fiendskull9i want it on 192.168.1.10005:09
ShayGuyCan you help me?05:09
fiendskull9routed to 192.168.1.105:09
con-manbash: /usr/bin/wow.sh: Permission denied05:09
chip__None, I justt try to get to the main site and it closes05:09
maddashcon-man: you'll get a window, and paste in that wine cmd you sent me05:09
robtpsuperkirbyartist: openoffice.org impress is a nonstarter?05:09
hassan2agod morning fiendskull905:09
con-manbash: /usr/bin/wow.sh: Permission denied05:09
robtpsuperkirbyartist: which means it wont work?05:09
bruenigchip__, do you have javascript enabled? not sure if that would make the browser crash but I am fairly certain at least gmail uses it05:09
maddashcon-man: did you do "sudo gedit /usr/bin/wow"?05:09
fiendskull9hassan2a, hi?05:09
un_operateurcon-man, chmod u+x /usr/bin/wow.sh05:09
con-manmaddash: yes05:09
Innomenok ibm thinkpad 600 linksys wirless G pcmcia card, are there any apps that would make it able to see avilable networks, or detect and configure the card?05:09
hassan2afiendskull9:  hox are you miss ?05:09
siv0xun_operateur: well. thats what i did when i wanted to do the same thing, except for a different program.05:09
superkirbyartistrobtp: impress uses java.  I need lightweight.05:09
chip__i checked the about:plugins and java is all Enabled05:09
robtpInnomen: gnome-network-manager is good05:10
hassan2afiendskull9:  how are you miss ?05:10
weswh-anyone know of any awesome music visualization programs? i have tried all of the ones included with amarok, pretty poor. i have a beefy nvidia card, would love to have something cool. i remember 'milkdrop' for winamp ages ago was awesome05:10
robtpsuperkirbyartist: i thought so :(05:10
fiendskull9hassan2a, mister you mean?05:10
bruenigchip__, javascript, not java05:10
jisatsu_anyone know of an ID3 editor which supports artwork?05:10
maddashcon-man: did you set your sudo password?...05:10
bruenigchip__, edit>preferences then content05:10
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floppyearshi05:10
billsteichip__, I have no trouble with addictinggames front page.  about:plugins here shows: Java(TM) Plug-in 1.5.0_08-b03 installed05:10
un_operateur!worksforme | siv0x05:10
ubotusiv0x: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.05:10
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floppyearsI have a mac laptop that I want to share files with my ubuntu server05:10
chip__Yes Javascript is enabled05:10
Innomenrobtp: i first booted ubuntu like 30 seconds ago, so, is that something i would download or is it built in?05:10
weswh-i actually really like the little "jumpy balls" visualization in the bottom part of amarok, but you can't full screen it (that i have seen)05:10
con-manmaddash: in the file?05:10
siv0xunoperateur: but thats fine, when i ask my question it doesnt get answered so, i wont help anymore.05:10
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floppyearsI have heard that I can hook up both of them toether through a ethernet cable and share files05:10
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floppyearswhat software do I need on the ubuntu side ?05:11
hassan2afiendskull9:  try again05:11
floppyearsis is smb or netalk ?05:11
robtpInnomen: something to download05:11
Innomencool05:11
Innomenthx05:11
jisatsu_floppyears: I think you need a particular ethernet cable05:11
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maddashcon-man: have you ever issued a root password? ie, done something like "sudo passwd"?05:11
robtpInnomen: sudo apt-get install gnome-network-manager, then add the network-monitor applet to your panel05:11
un_operateursiv0x, errm, I saw you post no question05:11
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floppyearsjisatsu_: yes it's called crossover, but mac os x can use a regular cable and do the conversion :)05:11
siv0xun_operateur: hrm, okay i'll post again.05:12
h3xisrobtp, i think it's network-manager-gnome05:12
ShayGuyDo you read me?05:12
siv0xCould anyone help me get sound ingame, i'm using wine to emulate steam to run counter strike source. I dont hear a beep when i use  cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp, #winehq said that i need to get my ALSAs OSS Emulator working, as far as i know it is.. but still no sound05:12
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fiendskull9floppyears, you need to get a ethernet hub or switch, and hook them both up, and set up a shared folder with samba on your ubuntu box05:12
weswh-floppy - personally i would just use ssh. but it probably is easy enough with mac05:12
robtpInnomen: errr.... yeah network-manager-gnome05:12
fiendskull9siv0x, ask in #wine05:12
robtpInnomen: and dont add that to your panel, run nm-applet instead05:12
Innomensudo?05:12
weswh-you shouldn't need samba to do linux -> mac05:12
Innomeni feel i should tell you its on the other machine05:12
siv0xfriendskull9: read my question, i said i already asked.05:12
un_operateursiv0x, does sound work elsewhere? like when using your media player, etc?05:12
ski-worklapanyone know why bash in gnome-terminal ignores my PATH settings in .bash_profile (edgy/i386) ?05:12
fiendskull9SiCuTDeUx, nvm on #wine, doesnt exsist :P05:12
siv0xun_operateur: ofcourse.05:12
jisatsu_floppyears: ah ok :)05:12
superkirbyartistrobtp: any luck?05:13
con-mani applied chmod 1777 to it and it worked05:13
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Innomenheh uhh whre do i get gnome-network-manager?05:13
con-manmaddash: and yes I have issued a sudo password before05:13
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maddashcon-man: ok. another (perhaps better?) way of doing this is to create a bash alias...05:14
con-manmaddash: I did chmod 1777 to it and it works05:14
un_operateursiv0x, you verified alsa-oss is installed?05:14
maddashcon-man: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4445805:14
bruenigInnomen, sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome05:14
mareloi installed unreal tournament in my laptop (running kubuntu) but the game is too slow... what could the problem be?05:14
siv0xun_operateur: yep05:14
Innomenhttp://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html05:14
superkirbyartistrobtp?05:14
maddashcon-man: in case the script thingy didn't work05:14
Innomenso i *dont8 download something i type something to activate something that was already built in?05:14
robtpsuperkirbyartist: still going05:14
hassan2aInnomen:  heello05:14
Innomenhassan2a: hi05:14
robtpsuperkirbyartist: what kind of presentation are you trying to show?05:14
hassan2aInnomen:  how are you miss ?05:15
superkirbyartistrobtp: powerpoint05:15
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Innomenwow ok05:15
Innomenanywho05:15
Innomenso05:15
hassan2a??05:15
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floppyearsanybody ?05:15
Innomensomeone answer my Q? am i downloading something or am i installing something already built in?05:15
bruenigInnomen, I just gave you the command05:15
bruenig!info network-manager-gnome05:15
ubotunetwork-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.3-2ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 245 kB, installed size 1608 kB05:15
robtpsuperkirbyartist: try installing ppthtml05:16
bruenigInnomen, you are downloading it05:16
robtpsuperkirbyartist: i think that conversts ppts to html05:16
tonyyarussoInnomen: Downloading, then installing.05:16
Innomenok then link me05:16
Rprp`Hmm, is google earth avaible on Ubuntu?05:16
Innomencus i cant find it05:16
mareloi installed unreal tournament in my laptop (running kubuntu) but the game is too slow... what could the problem be?05:16
Innomenall i found is this05:16
maddashnever05:16
Innomenhttp://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html05:16
mareloi've just installed unreal tournament in my laptop (running kubuntu) but the game is too slow... what could the problem be?05:16
nelsonuwpanyone know how to get dialup on ubuntu?05:16
robtpRprp`: yep, but im not sure how you install it :)05:16
nelsonuwpan easyway?05:16
Rprp`hmmm, oke05:16
maddashmarelo: that you're running kde05:16
superkirbyartistrobtp: Yeah, but I can't make nor edit :(05:16
bruenigInnomen, http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/n/network-manager/network-manager-gnome_0.6.3-2ubuntu6_i386.deb05:16
bruenigInnomen, got tons of dependencies though05:16
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marelomaddash: i'm afraid I didn't get you05:17
Innomendependancies?05:17
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jisatsu_floppyears: I know virtually nothing about networking, but from what I know, the connection should be accessible from system, administration, networking. but I don't know about sharing files between them05:17
chip__ok guys...  I'll try and figure this out...  I gotta run, it's about midnight here in NYC...  Happy New Year...05:17
bruenigInnomen, here are its list of dependencies http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/net/network-manager-gnome05:17
Innomenas in things required before it will run?05:17
bruenigInnomen, yeah05:17
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hassan2ano Innomen05:17
maddashmarelo: the problem is that you're running kde. it's big. it's bloated. and it chews through memory with ease.05:17
Innomeni see, is there a complete package?05:17
Innomenapp + required elements?05:17
bruenigInnomen, once you have an internet connection those will all be taken care of by apt-get05:17
hassan2aInnomen:  no05:17
maddashmarelo: what's the stats on your laptop?05:17
Innomeni see05:17
robtpsuperkirbyartist: yeah, thats true... it doesnt convert too well either05:17
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bruenigInnomen, not sure05:17
hassan2aInnomen:  are tou tall ?05:18
robtpsuperkirbyartist: im not sure, the package may be fixed at some point, but its pretty old05:18
raef55i downloaded opera for linux as a tar.gz file . how do i nstall it05:18
Innomenwell if there isnt, when this is done i'll make one05:18
dsockhey all.  I can't get my fresh Ubuntu 6.10 install to connect to the internet. onboard ethernet on a P5B Deluxe.  any ideas?05:18
bruenigraef55, why not get the ubuntu deb?05:18
superkirbyartistrobtp the criawips?05:18
hassan2aInnomen:  your are small so05:18
floppyearsok, thanks jisatsu_05:18
Innomenhassan i'm a midget and i lsot my legs in the clone wars, which makes me about 3 feet tall05:18
robtpsuperkirbyartist: yeah, is dling koffice an option?05:18
maddashdsock: sudo ifup?05:18
marelomaddash: 512 RAM, Pentium M 1.73 Ghz 2 MB Cache05:18
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SurfnKidwhere is the modem typically under ubuntu05:19
SurfnKid/dev/modem or /dev/ttyS005:19
maddashmarelo: sounds like my thinkpad. yeah, kde is definitely going to slow you down. have you thought about using a replacement wm? xfce? icewm? *box?05:19
raef55don't know where to get it didn't see it05:19
superkirbyartistrobtp if it won't kill my bandwidth... usually xfce supports both gnome and kde fine.05:19
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hassan2aInnomen:  what ? you are a rubbish ? okay05:19
superkirbyartistrobtp: so sudo apt-get install...05:19
robtpsuperkirbyartist: if i had to guess id say it would be less than 30mb but i dont really know05:19
dsockmaddash: i haven't tried that. I will try that. have you got any other ideas. this is a dual boot system. I'm on another OS right now05:20
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superkirbyartistrobtp package name please?05:20
asc__When I run xfce, the menu is blank.  It's been that way since I first installed it.  Any idea how I can get a default menu?05:20
maddashdsock: ok, go back to the other system, and do an "sudo ifconfig -a"05:20
robtpsuperkirbyartist: kpresenter05:20
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maddashdsock: see if your network card is being detected by ubuntu05:20
marelomaddash: no... didn't though of it yet... i think kde is the most beautiful... well, actually i think enlinghtment is more beautiful, but still beta....05:20
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billsteihassan2a, I shot off Innomen's legs in the clone wars and had them sewed on, now I am 9 feet tall05:21
bruenigraef55, open up a fresh terminal and copy and paste the following, wget ftp://ftp.130th.net/pub/mirror/opera/linux/910/final/en/i386/shared/opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb05:21
robtpsuperkirbyartist: i just used it to open something and the result was *pretty* ugly05:21
maddashmarelo: well, kde and gnome are notorious for bloat.05:21
bruenigraef55, the entire thing after the comma, all on one line05:21
hassan2abillstei:  what girl ?05:21
raef55thanks05:21
mareloand i'm running the game alone... nothing else running... i runned on windows xp with 256 mb ram in a 16mb video card... i don't think kde is the problem...05:21
dsockmaddash: k, i'm actually pretty certain it's being detected. i see it in the device manager05:21
superkirbyartistGood guess, robtp, I'm on dialup, and it takes 100MB roughly.  robtp: criawips or kpresenter?05:22
LOQUILLO_brb05:22
hassan2abillstei:  what are you shot off he ?05:22
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robtpsuperkirbyartist: ouchhhh it probably pulls in all of kdelibs and a good part of kdebase... i was talking about kpresenter05:22
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maddashmarelo: hardware acceleration problem? with the graphics card? maybe wine is emulating the graphix card via software. what card do you have?05:22
arn0ld_hi im having a problem, my mouse move way to fast and its already on the lowest settings availible in the gui, can anyone help05:22
robtpsuperkirbyartist: im not sure i can help you, sorry :( i gotta go work05:22
marelomaddash: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 04)05:23
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robtpsuperkirbyartist: good luck05:23
marelomaddash: and i'm not using wine05:23
maddashdsock: ok, do "sudo ifup **" where "**" is the name of the network interface - something like eth0, eth1, etc05:23
superkirbyartistbye robtp thank you.05:23
marelomaddash: the game is linux native too05:23
jeffbrownwhen I explicitly invoke "hibernate" it seems to work.  I have configured my power prefs to hibernate when the lid is closed.  When I close the lid the machine does not hibernate.  Any tips?05:23
cypruserHow do I change someone's user account password?05:23
hassan2aoh no billstei05:23
Innomen  ok my laptop is in here now, no more walking betyween rooms heheh05:23
maddashjeffbrown: is that a thinkpad?05:23
jeffbrownHp Pavillion05:23
maddashjeffbrown: consider installing ibm-acpi or something05:23
jeffbrowndv400005:23
dsockmaddash: alright, thanks a lot05:24
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un_operateurcypruser, issue the passwd command at a terminal05:24
maddashjeffbrown: you can usually config ubuntu to hibernate w/a  script05:24
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maddashdsock: np05:24
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maddashmarelo: have you tried running unreal in windows on that same system?05:24
jeffbrownI am puzzled because hibernate appears to work, it just isn't triggered when I close the lid05:25
marelomaddash: no... here in my laptop i only have linux! =] 05:25
marelowindows only in my desktop05:25
nelsonuwphow do I find my primary nameserver IP05:25
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jarrod10i dont suppose there is anyway to build ubuntu using optimized cflags huh05:25
jbroomego back to gentoo05:26
maddashjeffbrown: have you installed acpid?05:26
jeffbrownmaddash: yes, acpid is installed05:26
maddashmarelo: sorry, don't know how to continue from here. but I think it has to do with the way wine utilizes the graphic capabilities of your video card05:27
con-man!volume05:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about volume - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:27
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maddashjeffbrown: in a cmd-line, issue "sudo gedit /etc/acpi"05:27
con-man!alsa05:27
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin05:27
marelomaddash: i said some lines ago, i'm not using wine. the game is linux native05:27
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con-man!volume05:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about volume - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:28
con-man!levle05:28
maddashmarelo: sorry - that's what a I meant. how the linux subsys interacts w/the graphics card...05:28
con-man!level05:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about levle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about level - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:28
Innomenhow do i get to the command line so i can type in this sudo stuff?05:28
con-man!control05:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about control - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:28
con-man!sound05:28
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin05:28
jeffbrownmaddash: /etc/acpi/ is a directory05:28
marelomaddash: humm ok then. thank anyway for your help/time05:28
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lovlossI updated to the newest nvidia driver, and after a reboot it wont load kdm unless i go into dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and choose Vesa05:28
maddashinnomen: press alt+f2 and type in "bash"05:28
Innomeni know thats lame but hey, super new05:28
con-manwhats the command for volume control05:28
Innomengotcha05:29
lovlossInnomen: you can use a terminal, or hit ctrl-alt-f105:29
maddashjeffbrown: ach sorry. do "ls /etc/acpi/*"05:29
Rprp`Does someone know how to install google earth ?05:29
con-manwhats the command for volume control05:29
maddashlovloss: it's ctrl+alt+f2, isn't it?05:29
lovlossmaddesh: f1 here. maybe kubuntu is different05:30
mareloRprp`: i think in the download page in the google site there are instructions...05:30
con-mananyone05:30
Rprp`hmm ok :X05:30
Innomeni see blackness, and a ~$05:30
jeffbrownmaddash: there are a bunch of .sh files there05:30
Innomenso i'm in the right place i think05:30
con-manQQ05:30
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billsteiInnomen, go towards the light05:31
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ddwagnzhello05:31
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levanderAnyone here using liferea as a feed aggregator?05:31
lovlossInnomen: you're in the right place05:31
lovlossInnomen: you will be there often05:31
ddwagnzquestion, with ubuntu shipping, what cd does it send live or install?05:31
lovlosslive = install05:31
jeffbrownddwagnz: the cd I downloaded was both a live cd and an install cd05:32
ddwagnz:/05:32
Innomeni typed "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant" and it said it couldent find the package05:32
robtphi everyone: some of my keys dont work, can anyone help05:32
jeffbrownddwagnz: I am not sure there is a difference any more05:32
siv0xdoes this: ln -s /home/siv0x/.wine/Program\ Files/steam/steam.exe look correct, so that i can, wine steam.exe ?05:32
ddwagnzthats alot of help if i ordered it05:32
lovlossddwagnz: Install is an app in the live cd\05:32
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Innomeni install the gnome thing *i think* how do i go back to the main screen and how to i start up gnome?05:32
ddwagnzokay05:32
nelsonuwpanyone in here on dialup?05:32
ddwagnzyesss!!!05:32
robtpsiv0x: don't you need another argument to ln, or does it create one on . by default?05:32
maddashjeffbrown: sorry about the delay. there's supposed to be sh file.05:32
rchfHi I am a Ubuntu seeker of knowledge - any advice on fixing video resolution (I have done what is in FixVideoResolutionHowTo)??05:32
jeffbrownmaddash: there are a bunch of them05:32
siv0xrobtp: i wouldnt know, thats why i'm asking : )05:33
maddashjeffbrown: do "sudo gedit /etc/acpi/actions/lid.sh"05:33
mareloi've just installed unreal tournament in my laptop (running kubuntu) but the game is too slow... what could the problem be?05:33
jeffbrownmaddash: done05:33
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maddashjeffbrown: when you close the lid, the linux kernel will execute the contents of that script05:33
Innomenhow do i get back to the gui?05:33
lovloss#kubuntu is dead. anyone here know why i cant get into kdm (which i guess is isnt too far off from gdm) when i have my nvidia dfriver selected? :<05:33
jeffbrownmaddash: ok... I will experiment with that a bit and see what I can figure out05:33
maddashjeffbrown: so i assume you want to hibernate when lid is closed. ergo, type in "hibernate" command into the lid.sh.05:34
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billsteiInnomen, Ctrl-Alt-F705:34
mareloi've just installed unreal tournament in my laptop but the game is too slow... what could the problem be?05:34
robtpsiv0x: try ln -s (that dir name) ./steam.exe05:34
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jeffbrownmaddash: do you know what files are manipulated when I click the button in power management UI?05:34
Innomenthanky05:34
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maddashjeffbrown: huh ? what management ui?05:35
siv0xrobtp, k i'll try, sec.05:35
jeffbrownmaddash: System -> Preferences -> Power Management05:35
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clouseau_I've installed 6.06 server on Parallels, and done sudo apt-get install apache205:35
cypruserHas anyone here ever successfully installed Windows XP on VMware?05:35
clouseau_any idea how to actually start apache?05:35
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Innomenso i now have an "about gnome" button, where is the rest of it heheh05:35
nelsonuwpanyone have any idea what a primary nameserver is?05:36
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maddashjeffbrown: sorry, can't help you there. I didn't do a standard install of ubuntu. and I don't have gnome05:36
jeffbrownmaddash: thanks05:36
mareloclouseau_: some systems is httpd start, some others is apache start05:37
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maddashjeffbrown: anytime05:37
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robtpsuspend!! it works fine!!05:37
maddashgrasshopper. lol.05:37
mareloclouseau_: or still apache2 start, but you have to pay atetion to the path...05:37
Innomenrebooting to kil time heheh05:37
cyprusernelsonuwp: I think a nameserver is a server that translates domain names to IP addresses.05:37
Innomeni05:37
siv0xrobtp: okay, you are right, but i mistaken, i needed to do ln -s <diff dir> ./steam.exe how do i delete that ln -s ? so i can add the other one instead?05:37
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robtpCan anyone tell me what the difference between suspend and hibernate is?05:38
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Innomeni'll be around bbl thanks guys :)05:38
nelsonuwpcypruser: any idea how I can figure out what mine is?05:38
clouseau__and apache2ctl start returns apache2ctl: line 88: /usr/sbin/apache2: No such file or directory05:38
robtpyou can just remove the steam.exe, all that file is is a link05:38
cyprusernelsonuwp: I think you can use any ISP's name server.05:38
dsockmaddash: I got this message- "ifup: interface eth0 already configured"05:38
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robtpsiv0x: or you can make a new one using ln -sf, it will overwrite the old one (f being force)05:38
jbroomecypruser: you can, but it's not good netiquete.05:39
jbroomenelsonuwp: look at opendns.org05:39
maddashdsock: so were you able to connect? I assume that eth0 corresponds to your network card.05:39
mareloclouseau_ first you need to know where the apache2 binary is located05:39
siv0xrobtp: i need it to be drive_c instead of wine: could not load L"Z:\\home\\siv0x\\Steam.exe": Module not found : (05:39
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rchfanyone install Ubuntu on an Inspiron 9400?  I've got a video resolution problem?05:40
mareloi don't think it's in the sbin.... but i might be wrong05:40
whopperhi, i just installed the livecd for 6.06.1...it says the current release for firefox is 1.5.0.8, how do i fix this? (sorry im rather new to this :P)05:40
robtpsiv0x: i might not be the one to ask05:40
n1gkerchf I didn't, but what is the trouble ?05:40
mareloafter that you can just /patch/to/apache2/apache2 start05:40
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robtpcan anyone tell me how suspend differs from hibernate?05:40
maddashrobtp: google. my friend.05:41
dsockmaddash: eth0 is my network card.  but on the ASUS P5B Deluxe, there are TWO onboard ethernet jacks, only one is showing up. I was not able to connect05:41
mareloor put /path/to/apache2/ in your system PATH and just call apache2 start05:41
clouseau__marelo: normally I'd do "which apache2" to find it, but that returns nothing05:41
robtpmaddash: ive been googling, but its still not exactly clear05:41
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maddashdsock: 2 jacks? for 2 seperate cards?05:41
robtpmaddash: hibernate is a form of suspend? i guess?05:41
cypruserrobtp: Suspend does not turn off the computer. It just puts it in a low-power mode.05:41
robtpcypruser: and hibernate uses no power, ok thanks05:41
mareloclouseau_ that's because your system don't know where it is, but that doesn't means it isn't there ;)05:42
mareloi've just installed unreal tournament in my laptop (running kubuntu) but the game is too slow... what could the problem be?05:42
rchfn1gke: I have installed and the resolution only come up at 1048x768.  I have followed the FAQ and altered xorg.conf to even eliminate that option and the darn screen and the options and the gui remain in 1048x768.  I'm stuck.05:42
maddashdsock: if you have 2 cards, then does eth0 correspond to the right one?05:42
mareloclouseau_ try finding trough konqueror (or similar) I think is easier than LSing in shell05:42
maddashrobtp: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Q_21677914.html05:42
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dsockmaddash: good point.  I hadn't thought about switching the cable.05:43
clouseau__marelo: I only have a shell. How do I install the desktop environment?05:43
maddashrobtp: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Q_21677914.html#1556848805:43
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maddashclouseau__:05:44
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mareloclouseau_ no need than. i would just be easier...05:44
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dsockmaddash: but I don't understand why only one of them show up.05:44
maddashclouseau__: sudo aptitude install x-window-system-core05:44
maddashclouseau__: then after that, issue "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop"05:44
mareloclo05:45
mareloclouseau_ try find / -iname 'apache2'05:45
mareloclouseau_ sudo find...........05:45
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maddashdsock: not sure I comprehend. you're telling me that "sudo ifconfig -a" doesn't show the proper network card?05:45
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maddashdsock: I assume you did a standard ubuntu install via an install cd. during the installation, did the installer detect both cards?05:46
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dsockmaddash: i forgot to try that. the only thing i tried was "sudo ifup **"05:47
maddashdsock: good god.05:47
robtpcypruser: how much/little is the power consumption in suspended state?05:47
dsockmaddash: the install said nothing of network cards05:47
maddashdsock: the install should've attempted to detect network interfaces. all of them. wireless/wired/modem/whatever.05:48
cypruserrobtp: I suppose it depends on your computer.05:48
maddashdsock: if you didn't do "sudo ifconfig -a" , then how do you know what to put for "sudo ifup **"???05:49
hagabakawhere is the default library path defined? no LD_LIBRARY_PATH is set05:49
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cafuego_hagabaka: in the ld-linux05:49
dsockmaddash: i looked it up in device manager, actually05:49
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kenthomsonHappy New Year!!! :)05:50
dsockmaddash: and i remember from earlier ubuntu installations, that the install would look for network interfaces, but i did not notice it this time.05:50
maddashoh crap - gotta chk nbc 405:50
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Rprp`Hmm, how vcan i install a .bin file?05:50
elyonHello, everyone.  Here again asking for help with my Radeon performance.  I installed the latest Linux x86 drivers from ATI but my performance is terrible.  I ran glxinfo and it reported that my Direct Rendering is off.05:50
maddashdsock: again, do a "sudo ifconfig -a". that's all I have to say.05:50
kenthomson!ati | elyon05:51
ubotuelyon: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:51
dsockmaddash: okay, thanks for your help05:51
elyonAlso reports my OpenGL vendor is Mesa something or other...05:51
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kenthomsonelyon:  please follow the instruction over there and you should be fine05:51
STV0726I have a problem when trying to load UBUNTU05:51
elyonkenthomson - I followed that guide yesterday and it screwed things up badly.05:51
mareloi've just installed unreal tournament in my laptop (running kubuntu) but the game is too slow... what could the problem be?05:51
kenthomsonelyon:  really? what happened?05:51
elyonkenthomson - more specifically, whenever I logged off, the screen would get garbled and the system locked up.05:51
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Angelushey eveyone! :)05:52
elyonInstalling the ATI drivers fixed that.05:52
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Rprp`Hmm, how vcan i install a .bin file?05:52
maddashrprp`: just run it05:52
Angeluswhat wondering if thunderbird could connect with hotmail?05:52
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maddashrprp`: if you want, you could copy it over to /usr/bin05:52
Rprp`oke05:52
Rprp`ty05:52
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kenthomsonRprp`:  Open a terminal navigate to the folder where the .bin is, and then type "sh <name_file.bin>05:53
maddashkenthomson, rprp`: good god. no way. .bin is not the same as .sh05:53
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maddashgod05:53
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Rprp`But it works05:54
Rprp`:x05:54
h3xisAngelus, not anymore05:54
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Dewidoes the default 6.10 kernel support LVM?05:54
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Angelusis there an e-mail program that does?05:55
DewiI installed the lvm2 tools package, but pvcreate keeps saying to me: "No program "pvcreate" found for your current version of LVM"05:55
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h3xisAngelus, no. hotmail does not allow it anymore05:55
Angelusoh ok, it does with outlook in windows05:56
h3xisAngelus, because it's built in05:56
Angeluscool thanks05:56
elyonHello, everyone.  Here again asking for help with my Radeon performance.  I installed the latest Linux x86 drivers from ATI but my performance is terrible.  I ran glxinfo and it reported that my Direct Rendering is off.05:56
elyonAlso reports my OpenGL vendor is Mesa something or other...05:56
elyonI have already followed the instruction in the Ati Binary HowTo... no luck.05:57
maddash!time05:57
ubotutime: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB05:57
rchfelyon: you got more of a response that I did.  Video problems may be to individual for the forum?05:57
maddashno geez05:57
maddashi want the official time05:57
rchfI have a similar problem but not as bad.05:57
juanchito2006!ati05:58
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:58
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elyonrchf - its strange because everyone I talk to hasn't had any problems with 3D performance, but I have on EVERY distro I've tried.05:58
maddashergo, hardware problem05:58
rchfelyon: I was about to start installing the ATI drivers to see how that went.  You saying its a bad course?  I haven't tried 3D much so not much help there - sorry.05:59
juanchito2006elyon: the howto has changed steadily, check it again05:59
elyonrchf - I wouldn't say it was a bad thing... just hasn't helped.  The how to caused a lot of problems for me, that's all.05:59
nnlinuxhappy new years05:59
maddashnoooooooooooooooooo06:00
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poningruhappy new year all06:00
DewiIs it possible to boot a 6.10 live CD with LVM2 support?06:00
juanchito2006HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!06:00
maddashmy life! it's all slipping away!06:01
elyonFeliz ano nuevo06:01
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rchfelyon: wish the howtos had some "why" in there as well.  I'm using an Inspiron 9400 with an ATI Mobility Radeon x1400 - you?  (happy new year)06:01
dsockmaddash: "sudo ifconfig -a" produced about 3 paragraphs of results.06:01
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elyonrchf - I'm using a Radeon 960006:01
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maddashdsock: "sudo ifconfig -a > ~/netdat"06:01
maddashthen open the file06:02
maddashdsock: and read at your own pace06:02
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maddashdsock: you have to open "~/netdat"06:02
violothappy new years :)06:02
dsockmaddash: k06:02
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dsockmaddish: thanks again06:03
billsteirchf, I have Radeon 9200 and I tried to get 3D working and it didn't go well.  Gave up until I get a lot smarter.06:03
maddashdsock: np. that's a lot of network interfaces, btw.06:03
elyonPermission denied when trying to open xorg.conf?  I'm in super user mode06:03
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juanchito2006elyon: try sudo chown (user) (directory)06:03
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elyonjuanchito2006 - I just used file browser to open it ;)06:04
rchfelyon: did you you try to run through the guidance in the FixVideoResolutionHowTo (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto)?06:04
elyonjuanchito2006 - I'll try the HowTo again, but I did it yesterday and it messed things up.06:04
un_operateurelyon, and you have a super-user file-browser?06:04
Mike_hello06:04
elyonun_operateur - apparently... it didn't say permission denied this time lol06:04
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rchfbillstei: I'm not even trying to get 3D working.  Just trying for the full 1440x900 I had under ubuntu before my latest reinstall.  Any ideas?06:05
un_operateurit's going to be an interesting new year seeing what people do :)06:05
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maddashdoes anyone here use popularity-contest?06:05
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Mike_I am needing some help with the moint points. I don't want to screw up my windows install06:05
greatgazooHNY from EST everybody!06:05
maddashmike_: be specific. what help do you need?06:06
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un_operateurmaddash, i do, well, i have it installed and it does it's thing, can't say i "use" it06:06
kenthomson_Mike_:  mount your windows partition as /media/windows and don't click on the format checkbox next to it, and you should be ready06:06
maddashunoperateur: it works in the background?06:06
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billsteirchf, not much of an expert, but I edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually and inserted 1600x1200 res that I wanted and I have that now.  It did not auto-detect my monitor correctly06:07
maddashun_operateur: god your name is so tedious to the fingers. pop-contest works in the background?06:07
un_operateurmaddash, yea, as a cronjob or something, everyday when APT looks for updates and so06:07
un_operateurmaddash, I could say your name is tedious too -- mad<TAB> :d06:07
Mike_I am not sure what mount points to use. /dev/hda1 is windows and /hda5 is free06:08
un_operateurmaddash, yea, popcon is mostly unobtrusive06:08
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Mike_what mount point and partition do I select?06:08
maddashun_operateur: my program sucks. no autocomplete. for me, popcon is unobtrusive as the sky until I open synaptic.06:09
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maddashMIKE_: are you running the installer or something?06:09
un_operateurmaddash, how does it interfere? it shouldn't06:09
Mike_yes. I am using the installer that is in Ubuntu. I just downloaded it06:10
Mike_I am at the section where it says prepare mount points06:10
maddashun_operateur: I think I have geek ocd or something. I can't stand having programs I can't use. everytime I see it in synaptic, my fingers act on their own accord and purge it from the disk06:10
mareloi've just installed unreal tournament in my laptop (running kubuntu) but the game is too slow... what could the problem be?06:10
elyonjuanchito2006 - what do I do when the HowTo instruction lead me to "Errors were encountered"?06:11
rchfbillstei: thanks, I did that a few times and made sure the resulting xorg.conf doesn't have 1048x768 even in it and yet - there it is still in 1048x768.  Weird.  I also did autodetect and that produced a new and somewhat interesting xorg.conf but no change in video resolution in the display.  Almost like I'm editing the wrong xorg.conf (I checked).06:11
maddashmike_: so what do you want? how many partitions u got so far?06:11
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maddashun_operateur: then, my conscience kicks in and i reinstall it06:11
Mike_I just have 206:11
Mike_one has windows and the other is free06:11
maddashmike_: so you want to add a third one for ubuntu?06:11
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maddashmike_: ok. I assume windows is ntfs, rah?06:11
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Mike_I would like to use the 2nd partition06:12
raef55are there debian pkgs  for kaabase and kaa metadata06:12
dmc_i just did an apt-get for kubuntu...how do i start using KDE?06:12
Mike_yes it is ntfs06:12
un_operateurmaddash, popcon is purely optional, you dont really need it although the ubuntu-dev teams could do with stats polled from your setup06:12
maddashmike_: do you know which partition is which based on what the installer shows?06:12
maddashun_operateur: I don't think they'd get much from my bare-bones install. haha.06:12
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billsteirchf, maybe it falls back on the VESA driver and ignores the xorg.conf ?  I have no idea, sorry, just ignorant guessing06:13
maddashun_operateur: anyway, I think I'll *rationally* get rid of it for once and for all. good riddance.06:13
dmc_i just did an apt-get for kubuntu...how do i start using KDE?06:13
un_operateurmaddash, neither do they with mine, but i have it anyway, i believe no matter how small your contribution is, it's a contribution nonetheless (to the bigger picture anyway)06:13
maddashmike_: assuming you do, go to "manually edit partition table," select the partition you want ubuntu to be installed to,06:14
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Mike_hda1 is windows hda2 is ext3 and hda 3 is extended06:14
maddashmike_: and change the mount point to "/"06:14
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rchfbillstei: maybe - I'm pretty new to this level of the dungeon.06:14
billsteirchf, there be radeon dragons06:14
maddashun_operateur: what? you're my jiminy cricket conscience now?06:15
maddashmike_: so mount "/dev/hda3" as "/"06:15
dmc_How do i start KDE?06:15
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juanchito2006elyon: ?06:15
kenthomsondmc_:  at the logic screen go to options and choose a KDE session, and then logic wth your username/password, you will end up in KDE if you have kde-desktop package installed06:15
maddashun_operateur: j/k. sudo aptitude install popularity-contest, I guess06:15
rchfbillstei: you aren't kidding.  Lets hope their new owners (AMD), do follow through on hints of opening the source.06:15
un_operateurmaddash, you could say -- was just justifying why i kepy popcon on my barebones install :)06:16
kenthomsonrchf:  AMD/ATI are BS, they don't OS their drivers. Use INTEL06:16
un_operateurs/kepy/keep/06:16
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dmc_sukenthomson: said the package could not be found06:16
dmc_kde-desktop06:16
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rchfkenthomson: yes, but Dell put the part into the laptop and the warranty on their boxes kicks butt.06:17
ringolist06:17
billsteirchf, i think the radeon issues (for me) began when XFree86 switched to XOrg, but at least I'm actually back running linux now06:17
maddashun_operateur: what setup do you have? server install? wm? panel? browser? x.org? xfree86?06:17
dmc_kenthomson: said could not find the package06:17
un_operateurmaddash, well, yea, if you can afford 188 bytes of install space and 1 minute of cronjob time everyday, why not? install it? :)06:17
maddashun_operateur: haha, 'cept w/my poorman's system, it's about 4 min of cron time06:17
un_operateurmaddash, mine's a xorg/xdm/fluxbox06:18
rchfbillstei: what is the 3D supposed to do, not really 3D right?  Faster polygonal rendering?06:18
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dmc_How do you go about installing kde?06:18
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un_operateurmaddash, poorer than my 1ghz/256MB box?06:18
amicrawlei add the lates src for amarok  how i get the update now06:18
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amicrawlei did  a sudo update amarok right?06:19
billsteirchf, i don't actually do any gaming, but my Firefox renders very slow, and I hate that06:19
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maddashun_operateur: finally. a non-xfce purist. what's your panel? or does flux come w/one already? how do you get your desktop icons? xdm= login screen?06:19
un_operateuramicrawle, sudo aptitude update06:19
tonyyarussoamicrawle: You got src or packages?06:19
amicrawlei src list06:19
rchfbillstei: there are some firefox tweaks out there.  I tried them and they did wonders.  Should be available as an extension called "fasterfox".06:20
tonyyarussoamicrawle: what?06:20
billsteirchf, actually all the 2D window move/redraws are slow06:20
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elyon!ati06:20
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:20
un_operateurmaddash, I don't use a "panel", fluxbox has a "slit" which you can configure -- I dont use desktop icons, why have them anyway if you are never going to use them -- and yea xdg is the lighter counterpart to gdm06:20
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Mike_maddash I have 3 lines for the mount points and 3 for the partitions06:20
amicrawlei did a  sudo aptitude update06:20
un_operateurs/xdg/xdm/06:20
maddashun_operateur: my development sys: 192 ram/501 mhz. haha.06:21
Mike_msg maddash so the first mount point should be /?06:21
elyongreat... now firefox doesn't work anymore06:21
billsteirchf, for a minute there I actually thought the browser WAS the operating system06:21
amicrawlei just got firefox 306:21
jarrod10question, since ubuntu is precompiled for i386, wouldnt it not be optimized for newer computers, meaning running it on them will be slower than it could be?06:21
maddashun_operateur: xdg? or xdm? I'm confused...06:21
un_operateurmaddash, that does quite well unless you play the latest version of quake :)06:21
un_operateurmaddash, my next post s///ed that mistake :)06:21
un_operateurmaddash, xdm 'twas06:22
rchfbillstei: I can see how that could get old fast.  Can you try avoiding the problem by finding if there is a way to have window moves just be outlines?  Yes - Netscape was right but just to early with the slogan to save itself from M$'s heel.06:22
amicrawleok i see there amarok is at 1.44  i'm at  1.3.906:22
amicrawlehow do i get uptodate06:22
maddashun_operateur: haha thanks for the info. my new setup's going to run faster than xp, I think.06:23
cypher1amicrawle, sudo apt-get install amarok06:23
pengulordhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1187729311073454106:23
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un_operateurjarrod10, compiling some program for i386 and runnint it on a i[56] 86 does not necessarily make it slower -- but yea, i686 software uses the full potential of an i686 system and performs better than a i386 alternate06:24
un_operateurrunning them*06:24
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maddashMike_: I'm confused. what do you mean 3 lines?06:24
un_operateurmaddash, what do you currently use?06:24
billsteirchf, not sure if window moves can be tweaked, but I'm too stubborn to change it.06:25
Mike_on my screen there is 3 columns, the first is mount point then size then partition06:26
unikonanyone what is the best expense tracker/budget tracker for linux?06:26
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maddashun_operateur: right now? xp. I'm trying to build a new setup on my thinkpad (which is considerably faster than my dev machine, but gnome bogs it down)...so far, I've got a server setup, x-windows-system-core, openbox/obconf, idesk, and fbpanel. and firefox, but I'm going to purge it in favor of dillo.06:26
elyonOkay, one more question - why does Synaptic and Add/Remove tell me I need to update my lists EVERY time I run them?06:26
tonyyarussounikon: gnucash looks decent, but I haven't messed with it much yet06:26
maddashelyon: b/c it's fun. for synaptic.06:27
Mike_under mount point and partition there are 3 places ( sections) that I can change06:27
maddashelyon: you can change that under synaptic preferences, I think06:27
maddashelyon: otherwise use aptitude06:27
unikongnucash is ok  but id like to check out kbudget http://tinyurl.com/yh6ztt06:27
elyonmaddash - it didn't use to do this, though.  Now it always says the list is out of date...06:27
rchfbillstei: I hope you win  and write it up!06:28
maddashMIKE_: ok, so select "/dev/hda2" and delete the partition.06:28
un_operateurmaddash, well, that sounds good enough -- kinda similar to mine but I have to use gnome tho (i wish i didnt have to) at times mainly due to Evolution and a few others06:28
maddashmike_: then you'll have a chunk of free space06:28
Mike_right.. I did that06:28
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maddashmike_: after the format, select the free space and mount it as "/" or whatever. the default option is for ubuntu to use that free chunk as it's residing partition.06:28
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amicrawleThe following packages have unmet dependencies:06:29
amicrawle  amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable06:29
amicrawleE: Broken packages06:29
maddashun_operateur: why not just kick out gnome and do openbox + evol?06:29
amicrawlewhat does the mean?06:29
amicrawlethat06:29
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amicrawlemean06:29
maddashamicrawle: isntall libvisual.06:29
maddashamicrawle: install*06:30
cypher1amicrawle, can you please paste the whole thing at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:30
rchfbillstei: can you tell me where one gets/finds 'aticonfig'?06:30
un_operateurmaddash, well, mainly because i can't be asked to do a non-gnome thingy plus it's only evol that's a "pain" (non-issue really)06:30
billsteirchf, gonna get a new MB with dual core and nvidia, because no computer is truly happy until it jumps right off the desk and finishes even before you tell it to begin06:30
amicrawlecan't find it in my src pile06:31
maddashun_operateur: so you have 2 sep sessions? for gnome and flux?06:31
un_operateurmaddash, I got enough memory to spare that's doing nothing, I can afford to let Evolution be greedy06:31
maddashun_operateur: hah. nice.06:31
rchfbillstei: sounds like something we all need.  I just don't want it finishing my sentences for me.06:31
un_operateurmaddash, no no, just one session -- but I run the gnome-settings-daemon in the background, so some apps have a gnome-ish feel to them06:32
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amicrawle<cypher1 just did06:32
maddashun_operateur: why not just get a gnome theme for flux?06:32
billsteirchf, i don't have aticonfig06:32
un_operateurmaddash, because my theme rocks better :)06:32
cypher1amicrawle, please tell us the URL06:33
billsteirchf, but now that I know that others have it I want it06:33
hepmewhy does ubuntu come with a /mnt directory if everything is mounted in /media ?06:33
amicrawlehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:33
cypher1amicrawle, which version of ubuntu are you on06:33
amicrawledapper06:33
rchfbillstei: !  all the FAQs on drivers for ATI keep mentioning it.  Must be obvious but haven't stumbled into it.  thx06:33
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maddashhuh?06:33
cypher1amicrawle, no the number you get when you submit it06:33
amicrawlewant to goto edgy06:33
un_operateurhepme, "cross-compatibility" with software written for other distros i suppose06:33
nomasteryoda|whepme, because most linux distros use /mnt as a temporary mounting point..06:33
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maddash!ops06:34
amicrawlehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/84/06:34
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elkbuntuwow um..cute06:34
tonyyarussoindeed06:34
violot0.006:35
tonyyarussoNEWS YEAR?06:35
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elkbuntutonyyarusso, yeah so stupid they're cute06:35
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rchfbillstei: thanks - gotta go - happy new year.06:36
alI got a problem about using Ubuntu, can anybody help?06:36
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elyonWow... that was really kind of you.06:36
Rookie_!ask06:36
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:36
maddashmike_: how's it coming? did it work?06:37
violotal, go ahead 'n' ask! ;)06:37
alFirst, I can see the Full Words in the Xchat view, why?06:37
althank u06:37
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Innomenso how do i start up gnome06:37
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Innomen?06:37
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ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!06:38
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h3xismaddash, save meeeeee06:38
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h3xislawl06:38
flashnetwhat a lamer06:38
elkbuntumore smarts...06:38
jarrod10someone is hacking this?06:38
elkbuntujarrod10, not this, just a few hundred computers06:39
jbroomewho ya gonna call?!06:40
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Innomenhappy new year h3xis06:40
Innomendidja miss me?06:40
h3xissame to you dear sir06:40
h3xisindeed06:40
flashnetdo u think thats can be named hacking?? just a kiddie with clons06:40
Innomensweet06:40
Innomenso, how do i start up gnome?06:40
h3xiser...06:40
h3xiswhat do you mean06:40
Innomenlike i think i installed it06:40
cypher1amicrawle, what is the output of "lsb_release -d" ?06:40
flashnetstartx gnome-session :P06:40
Innomeni just cant find hwo to use it, the networking config stuff all looks the same06:41
Innomenoky06:41
un_operateurInnomen, errm. have you got kubuntu installed or something else?06:41
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amicrawleno clue what that is06:41
Innomenubuntu06:41
maddashwho the heck is nalioth, anyway?06:41
un_operateurInnomen, and you got no GUI up?06:41
tonyyarussomaddash: Freenode staff.06:41
un_operateurmaddash, an op06:41
alAnother question, I had installed a FireStarter for my ubuntu, but When I try to start it , it said PPP0(my internet connection) not actived, fail to start it06:41
amicrawlehowto find that out ?06:41
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alcan any body help? thanks06:41
maddashwell, I know that, but I see him on #ubuntu all the time06:42
cypher1amicrawle, please run "lsb_release -d" and let us know what it outputs06:42
Rookie_al - whats your prob ?06:42
maddashdoes he live next to his comp or something?06:42
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maddashhow does he manage that?06:42
maddashor she?06:42
amicrawleUbuntu 6.06.1 LTS06:42
Mike_maddash..06:42
jbroomemaddash: wait, you don't?06:42
h3xismaddash, worm holes06:42
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hepmewow i've never seen someone says "what's your prob?" in a non-rhetorical way06:42
Innomenstartx gnome-session caused a "fatal error"06:42
alAnother question, I had installed a FireStarter for my ubuntu, but When I try to start it , it said PPP0(my internet connection) not actived, fail to start it . It06:42
naliothmaddash: join #ubuntu-offtopic please06:42
maddashinnomen: what's the rest?06:43
dmc_ Anyone know hot to reinstall the Etherape and "Network" Gui Apps?06:43
maddashnalioth: omg. you're not a bot.06:43
Innomeni dont know i alt-ctrl f7 back into the gui06:43
Innomenis there nothing from within the gui to start it?06:43
alAnother question, I had installed a FireStarter for my ubuntu, but When I try to start it , it said PPP0(my internet connection) not actived, fail to start it . It's a pppoe connection, it already dialed and eth0 is ok either, buy why, thanks06:43
maddashnalioth: got it, won't go too off-topic again06:43
Rookie_al - i dont use firestarter so i cant answer that ... i write my own ...06:43
maddashinnomen: uhh.."gui" usually implies that you are running gnome already06:43
Innomenubuntu alone has a gui06:44
h3xisal, why are you wanting to run firestarter on a ppp connection?06:44
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Innomenlike where i see applications places aystem etc06:44
Mike_maddash, I am still confused (sorta still a n00b) I just dont want to make a mistake and trash windows06:44
un_operateurInnomen, ubuntu's GUI is gnome06:44
alI'm a newbie to linux, so i can't set up firewall without firestarter06:44
maddashmike_: what's wrong?06:44
alsomething like it, simple06:44
Innomen?06:44
waterpearh3xis, it's pppoe, not ppp06:44
h3xisal, why do you need to change the default rules?06:44
h3xisahhh06:44
h3xisok06:44
Mike_ok.. I have 22.26 gig of free space06:44
Innomeni'm being given conflicting data here06:45
maddashinnomen: ubuntu runs gnome by default. chances are, if you haven't tinkered too much, you ARE running gnome. gnome = gui.06:45
amicrawleand dsl run over ethernet06:45
Innomenits a good thing i'm not a robot06:45
Innomenno06:45
amicrawlenot pppoe06:45
aldefault rules? Can default rules allow aMule or Az p2p.. these things?06:45
h3xisX is the gui, not gnome06:45
Innomenyou guys told me to "sudo apt-get install gnome-network-manager, then add the network-monitor applet to your panel"06:45
Innomenhow do i "add network etc.."06:46
Mike_on the mount points.. I don't see the 22 gig06:46
amicrawleal you relly don;t need to be running thoes apps06:46
cypher1amicrawle, try running synaptic and fix the broken packages and then installing amarok06:46
h3xisal, yes, those will work06:46
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Innomenso is everything i install gunna be hidden like this?06:46
alwhat apps i dont need?  amule?06:46
Innomenis it really so hard ot have like a programs folder and a button for the netowrk configration tool i had to install?06:46
amicrawleamule is very dead06:47
alh3XIS, how to do that?  use the default rules, IPTAbles?06:47
h3xisal, you dont need to mess with them, theyre fine as is06:47
maddashinnomen: right click on your taskbar.06:47
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aloh, very dead, what you using P2p?06:47
Innomentop or bottom06:47
maddashmike_: uhh...that's b/c there's a chunk of *free space*...06:47
alubuntu didnt start a firewall  by default, isnt it?06:48
maddashmike_: after deleting the partition, did you "Write changes to the disk"?06:48
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rye78I got a small stupid question for you ubuntu users, I'd first liek to say I know my way around linux (recompiling linux, changing permissions, basic stuff like that), and before i moved to ubuntu...is ubuntu...well..'respectable'?, I dont want to be using something that is like...fisher price.  I hope someone knows what I mean so they can elaborate =/06:48
amicrawlei don't any more06:48
amicrawlejust ftp06:48
amicrawlefaster06:48
amicrawleor bittorrent06:48
Mike_yes.. I wrote the changes06:48
h3xisrye78, depends who you ask06:48
Innomeni see no gnome in the list of things ot add tot he bar06:48
h3xisrye78, i think it is, but it's fine, really06:48
Innomenperhaps i didnt install it properly06:48
rye78I'd use pure debian, but I can NEVER get gnome looking good, ha, im terrible with X06:49
xtknightrye, i think its like debian with a better skin and nicer community...its not overnewbified or anything06:49
h3xisInnomen, you did06:49
rye78And ubuntu looks secksi06:49
Innomenis there a something like "run" where i can send command lin stuff from within the gui?06:49
xtknightinnomen: press alt f206:49
h3xisInnomen, run nm-applet from terminal06:49
Innomenthank you06:49
h3xisrye78, it's the same XD just get a secksi theme06:50
waterpeari like alt+f206:50
maddashmike_: so you don't see anything left of the 22 gb? just "/dev/hda1" and "/dev/hda3"?06:50
Innomen"could not find nm-applet"06:50
h3xisInnomen, as sudo?06:50
Innomenerr could not open location06:50
Mike_ok.. I just created a new partition06:50
alhello.. Ubuntu didnt start a firewall by default, isnt it?  how terrible without at least a simple firewall in the world06:50
Innomendefine "as sudo"06:50
h3xisal, yes, it does06:50
Innomen!sudo06:51
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:51
h3xisInnomen, sudo nm-applet06:51
Innomeni see06:51
jbroomeal: it doesn't beacuse it doesn't have ports open by default06:51
Innomenone moment06:51
xtknightjust for reference use gksudo for running gnome programs as super user06:51
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h3xisxtknight, why?06:51
xtknightor gksu, same thing i think06:51
rye78h3xis, I could never get any distro looking as nice (in my eyes) as my old fedora box:  http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f239/codvx/Screenshot-1.png06:51
xtknighti dont know exactly :P06:51
xtknightthats just what ive always been told06:51
Innomenheh this time nothing happened06:51
Mike_I have hda1, 2, 3 and 506:51
Innomenno error no nothing06:51
amicrawleal why do you want a firewall06:51
h3xisrye78, that theme is bluecurve. just find it and use it :P06:52
xtknighti heard if u ran gnome apps  without gksu theres a rare chance something could get corrupted06:52
Music_Shuffle!firewall | al06:52
ubotual: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).06:52
Innomen!gnome06:52
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.06:52
h3xisxtknight, im not saying youre right or wrong, ive just never herd that06:52
h3xisheard*06:52
Mike_1 is windows, 2 is ext3, 3 is extended and 5 is ext306:52
Innomen!wpa06:52
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:52
billsteiInnomen, you can also make launchers by right clicking on the desktop and picking "Create Launcher..."06:52
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amicrawleor kmyfirewall06:52
xtknightill have to be honest most of the time i dont even bother with gksu ;)06:52
dmc_!KDE06:52
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE06:52
QwertyMrye78, that movie running is?06:52
blake_Wow, it's gnome marketing -- in bot form ;)06:52
maddashmike_: i thought you said that you only have 3 partitions...06:52
h3xisInnomen, do you have something new in your system tray?06:52
jbroomeunderworld?06:52
Innomennot that i can tell06:53
xtknightanyone here have a JMicron controller on their motherboard?06:53
InnomenONE MOMENT06:53
Innomensorry caps06:53
maddashmike_: and you wanted to install ubuntu to hda2, rah? didn't I tell you before to delete hda2?06:53
alDid you guys mean, on a lonely pc, it is not neccessary to setup a firewall, or its not useful?06:53
xtknightor core 2 duo system and is experiencing freezing?06:53
h3xisal, it's not necessary. it is fine as is06:53
amicrawleal it's relly not useful06:53
Mike_I delted hda2 when you told me to06:54
amicrawleyour in the *nix world now06:54
alSo you dont have any firewall?06:54
amicrawlepeople relly don;t mess with your system unlike windows06:54
amicrawleal06:54
amicrawleno06:54
h3xisal, iptables is a firewall06:54
Music_Shuffle...you still technically have one.06:54
xtknightwhat's the default iptables config?06:54
jbroomeoff06:54
xtknightto block all anonymous requests?06:54
amicrawlejust my falt on06:54
maddashmike_: you still should be able to see some trace of the free space...06:54
maddashmike_: restart the installer. press ctrl+alt+del.06:55
althank u all^06:55
xtknighti think suse is the only one with a default enabled firewall, maybe fedora.  i dont see a need for it with linux other than for servers, etc06:55
amicrawledid you just move from windows?06:55
alfedora06:55
bruenig!firewall06:55
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).06:55
hepmedoes shareware exist in the linux world, or only completely free or completely commercial?06:55
alyes, me06:55
amicrawleah good ol redhat06:55
Music_Shufflebruenig, I already directed him to it. Dunno if he read it or not though.06:55
h3xishepme, it's all free06:55
Kingsqueakubuntu has iptables enabled too, just without any chains in it and a default ALLOW policy06:55
Mike_you want me to restart the whole thing?06:55
Innomenbrb06:56
hepmeh3xis i mean from 3rd party people06:56
bruenighepme, virtually no shareware06:56
h3xishepme, it's still free06:56
xtknighthepme: well yes but i believe it's against the GNU linux philosophy....take VMware for linux, for example06:56
asc__firestarter is nice for easy router makeing06:56
h3xishepme, right06:56
hepmenot all software for linux is free though06:56
asc__So in a WAY having a firewall is useful....06:56
xtknighti think u'd consider that shareware..i dont know but its not open source is it06:56
Rookie_If you stay online alot and on longer periods, then you should have a firewall - but if you only remain in short periods its not necessery to have a firewall06:56
xtknightvmware workstation, specifically06:56
h3xishepme, it is all "free"06:56
bruenighepme, free as in no $06:56
hepmefree has two meanings though06:57
bruenighepme, except a few apps like cedega06:57
h3xisright06:57
xtknighttheres free software which means no $, and then there's freedom software by the FSF definition06:57
h3xisit's all free as in you can do whatever you want with the code06:57
h3xisbut price is a diff subject06:57
bruenigh3xis, no, flash is not free as in code06:57
hepmeh3xis well you're wrong on that count too since there are some linux things that dont come with source code, such as blobs :P06:57
maddashmike_: well, press "esc" first. get out of the partition manager.06:57
bruenigyeah there are some blobs, but very few06:57
xtknightnvidia/ati drivers actually06:58
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maddashmike_: then select "partition hardrive" from the list,06:58
h3xisbruenig, if i wanted i could get the code from adobe06:58
xtknightbut aren't they including non-free in Feisty by default?  how is that legal?06:58
alLinux is free, but it's not cheap, I nearly cant afford it06:58
aldid you agree?06:58
maddashmike_: then select "manually edit partition table" if it's available...06:58
Music_ShuffleIts free and cheap. >.>06:58
bruenigh3xis, no you couldn't06:58
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bruenigh3xis, unless you have some sort of inside there, like you are a developer or something06:58
h3xisbruenig, you sure? i was told you could a long time ago when macromedia owned it06:58
alI need to buy a CROssOver office to run Photoshop 706:59
hepmeis ubuntu ever going to get rid of the code names, they don't seem to make understanding the versions any easier than using numbers, dates even that makes it more clear06:59
Music_ShuffleThey're not going to toss you their code >.>06:59
aland a EIO office06:59
xtknighti think every linux distro has a codename so i doubt they'll get rid of it06:59
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bruenigh3xis, you can't get it, I am sure, look at things like gnash, if you could just get the code, there would be no gnash06:59
Music_Shufflehepme, its...very very simple. It progresses with the alphabet. I can't see it being any simpler with numbers, the sequencing idea is simple.06:59
amicrawleThe following packages have unmet dependencies:06:59
amicrawle  amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable06:59
amicrawleE: Broken packages06:59
h3xisbruenig, alright, i stand corrected :P06:59
amicrawlei get this all the time07:00
aland Cedega for game07:00
xtknighti mean, it makes it easy to refer to stuff.  I can say Sarge, Feisty, Edgy, all the linux people know what im talking aobut, i dont have to say debian 3.1, it's too lengthy to type out every time07:00
hepmehow is warty warthog in alphabetical order07:00
vvlawwhat's going on?07:00
vvlawE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?07:00
xtknightvvlaw: close synaptic07:00
xtknightor use sudo07:00
crimsunhepme, who said it was in alphabetical order?07:00
Music_ShuffleThey are now! ;P07:00
hepmeMusic_Shuffle:07:00
Mike_ok.. hang on07:00
Lam_i have a cue file with a huge flac file. is there a program i can use to chop the flac album file into smaller tracks as specified in the cue file?07:01
khaije1I'm trying to setup a webbrowsing proxy using this command 'ssh -D 1111 user@host' but it isn't working.07:01
Mike_ok.. I just selected manually edit partition table07:01
hepmecan't you just use export to make a web proxy07:01
almy most hope, is GIMP will good for hand draw.07:02
khaije1the web browser stalls but doesn't fail as it does when i don't set up the tunnel, any advice?07:02
quad3dHAPPY NEW YEAR! CST!07:02
Mike_the top of the window says prepare partitions07:02
hepmeif gimp supports /dev/wacom then it could be good for drawing07:02
quad3dyer geeks07:02
alis the xchat still work? am I off line?07:02
khaije1hepme: this is inside a corp firewall, so i have to use ssh to my home machine07:02
Mike_I see /dev/hda1 on the left and /dev/hda5 on the right07:02
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waterpearal, you're on07:03
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zcat[1] what cpmand tells me what version of ubuntu I'm running?07:03
zcat[1] *command07:03
quad3drm -rf /*07:03
quad3dno, don't do that :)07:03
xtknightzcat: `uname -a` is a pretty good indicator..we can tell u from there07:03
QwertyMlmao07:03
khaije1zcat[1] : cat /etc/version iirc07:03
rye78Little Nicky's on TBS :D07:03
hepmenot funny, there are people in this chan naive enough to do that07:03
billsteithat is just evil07:03
hepmeconsidering that many are completely GUI users07:04
zcat[1] cat: /etc/version: No such file or directory07:04
h3xishepme, gotta learn somehow XD07:04
quad3dlol07:04
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Kingsqueakcat /etc/lsb-release07:04
zcat[1] Cool, that's what I needed .. writing a script like easyubuntu ..07:04
billsteizcat, uname -r07:05
khaije1tilda07:05
Mike_maddash?07:05
bruenig!version07:05
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.07:05
maddashmike_: uh...what distro are you using? dapper? edgy?07:05
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cafuego_lsb_release -a07:05
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khaije1oops!07:05
QwertyMlol07:05
zcat[1] uname -r is just the kernel version... lsb_release is what I need07:05
maddashmike_: sorry...got tied up elsewhere. do you see the 22 gb of free space?07:05
hepmewhy does lsb_release say 'no lsb modules avaialble'07:05
TheItalianGuyHi Guys, what's the best program for screen caps on dvds?07:06
amicrawle<er/.kpackage/libvisual-0.4-dev_0.4.0-1~dapper1_i386.deb' ;echo RESULT=$?07:06
amicrawleSelecting previously deselected package libvisual-0.4-dev.07:06
amicrawle(Reading database ... 224449 files and directories currently installed.)07:06
amicrawleUnpacking libvisual-0.4-dev (from .../libvisual-0.4-dev_0.4.0-1~dapper1_i386.deb) ...07:06
amicrawledpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libvisual-0.4-dev:07:06
amicrawle libvisual-0.4-dev depends on libvisual-0.4-0 (= 0.4.0-1~dapper1); however:07:06
amicrawle  Version of libvisual-0.4-0 on system is 0.4.0-1.07:06
khaije1why does it seem like i'm the only person who ever does that?07:06
amicrawledpkg: error processing libvisual-0.4-dev (--install):07:06
amicrawle dependency problems - leaving unconfigured07:06
QwertyM!07:06
amicrawleErrors were encountered while processing:07:06
amicrawle libvisual-0.4-dev07:06
amicrawleRESULT=107:06
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amicrawle07:06
cafuego_!paste > amicrawle07:06
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QwertyMpastebin amicrawle !!!07:06
amicrawlethis is what i get  when i install this deb file07:06
h3xisomg07:06
Mike_this is edgy07:06
cafuego_amicrawle: Please don't do that again.07:06
amicrawleok just a little frustrated07:06
zcat[1] grep -q "edgy" /etc/lsb-release || zenity --error --text "This script was written for edgy. Using it anywhere else will probably trash your install"07:06
xtknightit's just too long to post big error messages thats all, IRC doesnt take too well to it and it causes lag07:06
hepmeand now everyone is just a little frsutrated. irc is not a word processor :p07:07
Kingsqueakgrep CODENAME /etc/lsb-release | cut -d = -f 207:07
xtknightbut to fix your problem...u need a newer  version of the package libvisual that is all07:07
amicrawlehow do i get that07:07
Mike_I do see the 22 gig of free space07:07
asc__Hey, I'm in a pm with shayguy.  He needs to put a hex key into the configuration thing for a wireless device, and the password field is too short.  It's  13 characters (the hex string is 26), and doesn't translate into a typeable string.07:07
maddashmike_: aha! great!07:07
maddashmike_: select the free space07:08
xtknightamicrawle: sorry, actually it looks like you downloaded a non-ubuntu debian package or something..07:08
maddashmike_: the rest should be intuitive...07:08
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TheItalianGuyhey guys, what program would you use to take screen caps with DVD's??????07:08
amicrawleIndex of /ubuntu/pool/main/libv/libvisual07:08
vvlawxtknight,  i did not use the synaptic to install soft07:08
amicrawlei got it from there07:08
xtknightvvlaw: that message will happen if you have synaptic open, or if you do not prefix the 'apt-get install' command with sudio07:08
xtknightsudo* sorry07:09
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khaije1cafuego - is the lsb stuff new for edgy?07:09
hepme what does lsb stand for07:09
Mike_Do I use hda1 as the mount point for partition hda107:09
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khaije1linux standards base > hepme07:10
xtknightleast significant bit? linux standards base? i dont know07:10
hepme/media/hda107:10
vvlawxtknight,yes...maybe i apt-get install something and something to crash07:10
Mike_then use / as the mount point for partition hda5?07:10
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xtknightvvlaw: what are you trying to install and how?   use this to install a package from the terminal: sudo apt-get install package-name07:10
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maddashmike_: yes, don't change the mount points of the partitions you want left untouched07:11
khaije1has anyone had success using ssh for arbitrary tunneling?07:11
rye78WHy can't I su - in terminal in ubuntu?07:11
h3xiskhaije1, yes07:11
rye78I ahve to type sudo all the damn time07:11
tonyyarusso!sudo | rye7807:11
uboturye78: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:11
Mike_ok07:11
rye78It's annoying07:11
xtknightrye78: su is disabled in ubuntu.  `sudo -H -s` is the equivalent to `su`07:11
h3xiskhaije1, but i cant remember how to do it off the top of my head :/ been long time07:11
vvlawjust now, i tried to "sudo apt-get install mplayer win32codecs07:11
rye78oh07:11
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maddashmike_: um, why hda5? is that where you want to install ubuntu?07:11
h3xissu isnt disabled07:11
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maddashmike_: select the free space...07:11
Mike_free space is hda507:12
h3xisrye78, if you want su back type sudo makepasswd and choose a root password and you will be able to use su from then on07:12
xtknightvvlaw: you are still getting the same error message?07:12
Innomenthis is not good07:13
Mike_hda3 is extended 22 gig free07:13
Innomeni still cant start the network manager07:13
khaije1h3xis: i haven't been able to figure out what I'm doing wrong, I'm trying to use the -D option for dynamic (socks-style) forward proxy tunneling. In my case it's mostly just to evade corporate content filter07:13
vvlawxtknight,yeah...maybe there have something to interrupt07:13
Innomenhttp://www.linux.org.mt/node/8207:13
amicrawlehow do i fix broken pkgs  in shell07:13
Innomeni get to step 7 basicly07:13
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h3xiskhaije1, give me a second while i look at mine. i havent used it since high school XD07:13
Innomen"gnome-network-manager showing available wireless networks"07:13
xtknightvvlaw: are you sure the synaptic program is not open?07:13
maddashmike_: should install fine, I think07:13
Innomeni dont have "gnome-network-manager"07:14
Innomenapprently07:14
khaije1h3xis: if anything comes to mind, could you PM me? i need to go afk, back in 10 mins :-)07:14
xtknightvvlaw: i can't think of any other reason why that error would occur07:14
h3xiskhaije1, yes :)07:14
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h3xisInnomen, it's not called that. you want network-manager-gnome07:14
[shroom] My Xorg segfaults vanished after I removed the second DIMM, leaving only one memory channel.07:14
xtknightamicrawle: what do you mean by broken?07:14
amicrawle<xtknight>  will you help mr07:14
Innomen"An applet will show up in the gnome notification area."07:14
vvlawxtknight,do you use mplayer ?07:14
Innomenwhere is this "notification area"07:14
xtknightvvlaw: yes sometimes07:14
TheItalianGuyhey guys, what program would you use to take screen caps with DVD's?????????? Please!!07:14
amicrawlewell you would have to pm  me07:14
maddashmike_: is it installing now?07:14
cmwebHappy New Year !07:15
vvlawxtknight,install it by apt-get install?07:15
Mike_says no root file system07:15
amicrawleto see what i'm getting in to07:15
h3xisTheItalianGuy, xine maybe?07:15
Innomenh3xis: i found it and installed it but i dont know how to start it07:15
xtknightvvlaw: yes i did:  sudo apt-get install mplayer07:15
h3xisInnomen, gimme a sec to find it07:15
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h3xisInnomen, are you in edgy?07:15
xtknightvvlaw: but i have not tried w32codecs07:15
Innomensee in wdonows it would be start programs Etc, or program files, where in the hell does ubuntu hide installed apps?07:15
Innomenone moment07:15
khermansis there a separate SPARC channel?07:15
cmwebinnomen, applications07:15
h3xissparc <307:15
cmwebat the top07:15
Mike_maddash, it says no root file system07:16
Innomencmweb then its not there07:16
khermansh3xis, sparc == h807:16
maddashmike_: geez. tell me exactly what you did with the freespace in the partition manager before.07:16
h3xisno!!!07:16
h3xisdo not talk about sparc in such a way07:16
vvlawxtknight,yesterday i did  that.and it worked fine.but it showed the mp3lib error.so i tried to reinstall by the sources07:16
khermansh3xis, tell me how to issue STOP-A from a PC keyboard ;-P07:16
Mike_ok let me back up07:16
h3xiskhermans, what?07:16
Innomenwaiting for "about ubuntu" to load07:17
khermansh3xis, i got a sunblade 150 i want to run Ubuntu on07:17
Innomenit started and then vanished heh07:17
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xtknightvvlaw: so mplayer is not installed at the moment?07:17
Innomen6.10 is the cd i have07:17
Innomeni used the "alternate install"07:17
cmwebWhy would my machine have an active HDD light on if no processes but gaim are taking place? i mean it is really acting up i have no utilities that user the hardrive yet it is constantly doing this and slowing my machine down07:17
h3xiskhaije1, erf. i have a sunblade 150 and i have solaris on it07:18
h3xisoops07:18
h3xisi mean khermans07:18
vvlawit was installed.but the video don't have the xv output07:18
xtknightcmweb: maybe it is updating your file system search index??07:18
khermanscmweb, updatedb ?07:18
xtknightvvlaw: ok, so you tried to recompile to get the xv output, correct?07:18
h3xiskhaije1, that's with putty07:18
cmwebI duno but i wish it would stop07:18
vvlawxtknight,yes :)07:18
HymnToLifecmweb, "no process bunt gaim" <= I highly doubt it07:18
khermanscmweb, install iostat07:18
xtknightvvlaw: did you use apt-get source -b, or did you download the source and do ./configure , etc ??07:19
maddashmike_: ? what's going on?07:19
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cmwebhymmtolife, well no processes that would take up a lot of hdd07:19
Mike_maddash,  with the free space I created an extended partition (hda3) which is 22gig then there is another partition hda5 that is unknown and is also 322 gig07:19
Innomenc:\program files\gome.exe07:19
asc__I need to automagically setup a wireless network using the command line.  The ESSID and key are known.  Does anybody have *any* idea how to do this?07:19
cmwebkhermans, il try it07:19
zcat[1] "This script comes with NO WARRANTY, is highly experimental, and probably shouldn't be run by anyone, anywhere, for any reason."07:19
khermansh3xis, yeah but i want to run ubuntu -- i dont have a sun keyboard07:19
xtknightasc__: look at iwconfig, the manual is at `man iwconfig`07:19
maddashmike_: no no no07:19
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h3xiskhermans, err cant help you there07:19
maddashmike_: geez. delete the hda3 partition you created...07:19
asc__xtknight: it's too durned complicated for me :p07:19
Innomenits not like i'm asking for something insanely complex here07:19
h3xisInnomen, what version of ubuntu are you using?07:19
Mike_ok07:19
vvlawxtknight , of cause.use ./configure --enable-gui --enable-real --enable-mp3lib...and so on07:20
Innomenh3xis: give me your answers for each version i would answer with07:20
xtknightasc__: do you know the interface name of your wireless card?07:20
Innomenassume i said whatever it is you want to hear07:20
h3xisInnomen, if youre in edgy you already have it running07:20
vvlawxtknight,but i forgot to add the ./configure --enable-xv fuction07:20
Innomenok so how to i see it07:20
asc__xtknight: Oh, yeah.  Yes.07:20
xtknightvvlaw: ok, did you get to 'make install'?07:20
h3xisInnomen, edgy is the latest07:20
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Innomencus when i click the card i get nothing07:20
xtknightvvlaw: oh i see, so you compiled it to begin with and didn't use the mplayer out of the apt-get repository?07:20
Mike_done.. now I have 22 gig of unalocated space07:20
vvlawxtknight,yes.use the command"make && sudo make install"07:20
h3xisInnomen, are you on wired or wireless07:20
Innomenassume it is running how do i make it visable?07:20
cmwebkhermans, iostat is not in my repositories, it has been doing this at every start up07:21
asc__xtknight: it's made more difficult because I'm trying to walk somebody else through it and I've never set up a wireless network before. :p07:21
Innomenwireless07:21
xtknightasc__: iwconfig eth0 essid SSIDNAME07:21
maddashmike_: afterwards, if you still see the free space, select it,07:21
h3xisInnomen, do you see something that looks like bars like on a cell phone interface?07:21
xtknightasc__: iwconfig eth0 ap any07:21
h3xisInnomen, showing a signal strength07:21
Innomenpcmcia linksys which i think it sees, but its too stupid to display avilable networks07:21
khermanscmweb, sudo aptitude install sysstat07:21
Innomenno07:21
Innomeni do not07:21
h3xisInnomen, one sec07:21
xtknightasc__: and then watch iw..log i think it is....iw then press tab, theres a wireless interface log07:21
Mike_selected07:21
vvlawxtknight,i compiled it after i apt-get install later.07:22
maddashmike_: choose "/" as your mount point, but don't use up the entire 22gb...leave about 2-3 gb07:22
h3xisInnomen, so when you run sudo nm-applet what do you get07:22
Innomengah.pm me, i gotta go thanks h3xis :)07:22
Innomennothing07:22
Innomennothing happens07:22
h3xisInnomen, what do you mean07:22
Innomeni did that before07:22
xtknightvvlaw: ok, so is mplayer installed right now?  you are trying to install the mplayer from apt-get instead now, correct?07:22
h3xisdo you get an error07:22
h3xisor what07:22
Innomenjust that07:22
Innomenclick, and nothing happens07:22
h3xiso.o07:22
Innomenyea07:22
Innomeni would prefer an error07:22
maddashmike_: with the remaining 2-3gb, mount is as "swap"07:22
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asc__xtknight: Okay, thanks07:22
Innomenanyway07:22
Innomeni gone07:22
Innomensory :/07:22
h3xisarg07:22
Innomenthanks again :)07:22
Innomenbbl07:23
h3xisInnomen, this is not finished!07:23
vvlawxtknight,yes :)07:23
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xtknightvvlaw: alright, so i guess we're back to the beginning...u typed `sudo apt-get install mplayer` and you are getting this error: `E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?`07:23
zcat[1] If I have a string like "foo bar baz", what's the most elegant way in bash script to test if "baz" is in that string ? something prettier that "echo $string" | grep -q "baz" - &&07:24
maddashmike_: sorry, I just realized that you're running the GUI installer, not the text mode version I'm used to07:24
arrenlexzcat[1] : if echo $a | grep baz ; do07:24
vvlawxtknight,certainly :)07:24
Mike_Iam sorry I was not more clear..07:24
xtknightvvlaw: type this and tell me the output:  ps ax | grep synaptic07:24
arrenlexzcat[1] : Or is that what you want to avoid?07:24
maddashmike_: does it work?07:25
zcat[1] arrenlex: echo | grep is what I wanted to avoid... but I can't see anything better :(07:25
Mike_I am still new to linux installs,,07:25
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Mike_I am getting there07:25
maddashmike_: don't worry about that, everyone had to have been new at some point07:25
h3xismaddash, BS. i was born knowing how to use linux.07:25
zcat[1] I guess I should probably write this in python.. but I know bash best. I'm not much of a coder :)07:25
vvlawxtknight, vvlaw@vvlaw-laptop:~/tools/player/MPlayer-1.0rc1$ ps ax | grep synaptic07:25
vvlaw19240 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep synaptic07:25
vvlawvvlaw@vvlaw-laptop:~/tools/player/MPlayer-1.0rc1$07:25
maddashh3xis: oh yeah? well let's see how you do w/o my protection, mr. gnu-fanboy.07:26
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maddashh3xis: j/k. rofl.07:26
h3xisXD07:27
xtknightvvlaw: can you tell me exactly what you are typing that causes that error?07:27
khermanszcat[1] , what r u writing?07:27
zcat[1] khermans: postinstall script kinda like easyubuntu, but not using the very unreliable plf repos...07:28
vvlawxtknight  maybe i install something by the apt and it crash there.but i forgot what software i install:(07:28
xtknightvvlaw: type this: sudo apt-get install07:29
xtknightput nothing after 'install'...this will just check your apt-get system07:29
khermansvvlaw, sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock07:29
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h3xisdamn, vvlaw just log out and log back in or restart haha07:29
h3xisit'll close whatever is using apt-get07:29
khermanszcat[1] , we dont need another one of those scripts07:29
khermanshehe sorry07:30
maddashmike_: I think I was wrong. you might have to convert the free space to ext3 before partitioning it...07:30
maddashmike_: just don't partition the whole thing...leave some for the swap.07:30
xtknightvvlaw: just do what kherman said...it should fix your problem..we already verified u didn't have synaptic open and you're using sudo so something just went wrong...07:30
maddashmike_: so essentially, you're splitting the 22gb into 20 gb for "/" and 2 gb for "swap"07:30
vvlawkhermans, yeah...it worked fine...07:31
zcat[1] I need one .. easyubuntu doesn't install everything I want and plf is down whenever I want to use it. And automaticx breaks stuff.07:31
vvlawxtknight, yes. i fixed :)07:31
Mike_maddash, I am trying to make the 3 gig for swap and it is giving me an error07:31
vvlawbut do i need to remove the mplayer first ?07:31
Mike_says it cant create it07:31
vvlawmplayer is already the newest version.07:31
vvlaww32codecs is already the newest version.07:31
khermanszcat[1] , what do you need?07:31
xtknightvvlaw: no, not really.  but you can do this: sudo dpkg --purge mplayer w32codecs07:32
xtknightvvlaw: and then do: sudo apt-get install mplayer w32codecs.....after all that it will definitely be what is in the repositories and not what you compiled yourself07:32
khermansvvlaw, save yourself some trouble an use vlc07:32
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maddashmike_: what's wrong?07:32
zcat[1] sensible source-list with universe, multiverse, backports and seveas repos. w32 and stuff, 3d, lotsa games, hydrogen, mednafen, mame, wine..07:33
vvlawxtknight, something got07:33
vvlawvvlaw@vvlaw-laptop:~/tools/player/MPlayer-1.0rc1$ sudo dpkg --purge mplayer w32codecs07:33
vvlaw(Reading database ... 105221 files and directories currently installed.)07:33
vvlawRemoving mplayer ...07:33
vvlawPurging configuration files for mplayer ...07:33
vvlawRemoving w32codecs ...07:33
vvlawdpkg - warning: while removing w32codecs, directory `/usr/lib/codecs' not empty so not removed.07:33
maddashfor the record, having gparted in the edgy installer is a HUGE mistake. the textmode installer from breezy and dapper were just fine...so developers, if you're out there, take heed.07:33
xtknightvvlaw: please use pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org )  just copy the text there and paste the URL it gives you07:33
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xtknightvvlaw: but only for the next time you have to paste something07:33
asc__xtknight: should 'sudo iwconfig interface [essid]  "[essid] " key [key] ;sudo ifup [interface] ' work, in your estimation?07:34
xtknightvvlaw: that warning is fine, just install mplayer and w32codecs again07:34
khermanszcat[1] , adding many third-party repos is not revommended07:34
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Mike_maddash, hang on a sec07:34
zcat[1] I'm adding seveas and wine only..07:34
khermanszcat[1] , thats like a one line script!07:34
amicrawlercan any body see me07:34
bruenigmaddash, yeah the text installers were great, they were very intuitive I thought, but I guess some couldn't use them07:34
asc__er, interface [interface]  essid "[essid] "07:34
xtknightasc__: it is: 'sudo iwconfig interface essid [essid] '....im not sure what u need to do after that07:34
xtknightamicrawler: yes i can help u, in pm07:35
bruenigmaddash, you can always use the alternate isos07:35
zcat[1] not if you want pretty dialogs and the ability to select what you want...07:35
asc__xtknight: Okay.  Thanks.07:35
xtknightasc__: i would do `sudo ifdown interface`, then `sudo dhclient interface`...u should be good to go07:35
maddashbruenig: I guess...but then I'd have to spend 1.5 hrs dl-ing one iso only to find out that i need another.07:35
khermanszcat[1] , here you go for universe/multiverse -> sudo sed -i 's/main restricted$/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list07:35
xtknightasc__: after the ESSID thing that is..and watch the wireless interface log07:35
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xtknightasc__: that would be at `iwevent`07:36
zcat[1] khermans: and automatically fetch repo keys?07:36
bruenigmaddash, no you wouldn't, you would know get the alternate iso07:36
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maddashbruenig: well, then again, I'd never dl edgy...no lts.07:36
bruenigmaddash, are you on server or something07:37
Mike_maddash, wish me luck..07:37
maddashbruenig: why?07:37
bruenigI mean how much support do you need07:37
maddashmike_: why? you got the swap partition up?07:37
Mike_yes07:37
bruenigIf they support for 18 months, I am going to stop using edgy in 6 months anyways, so not a big deal07:37
Mike_just hope I have it configured correctly07:37
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maddashmike_: ok. nice going. let me know how it turns out07:37
maddashmike_: provided that the install doesn't take too long07:38
Mike_ the / is 19 gig and going to hda307:38
maddashbruenig: oh. let me rephrase. "well then again, I'd never dl edgy. i'm caveman."07:38
Mike_the swap is going to hda407:38
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Mike_sounds right07:38
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maddashmike_: did you defrag your ntfs before partitioning?07:39
Mike_no07:39
asfalthey, is there a gui tool for configuring WPA wifi connections in edgy?07:39
maddashmike_: ouch. careful.07:39
Mike_it was already partitioned along time ago07:39
tonyyarusso!wifi | asfalt07:39
ubotuasfalt: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:39
maddashmike_: nvm then07:39
maddashmike_: are you installing now?07:39
Mike_I did not adjust hda107:39
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Mike_installing07:40
Mike_should not take long07:40
xtknightwhat's the command to show every version of a given package (it shows every version u can get from all the repositories in ur index)?07:41
Mike_it is a 1.8ghz 64 bit laptop07:41
asfaltthank you07:41
maddashxtknight: aptitude?07:41
xtknightmaddash: yeah, i dont know the command line for it tho07:41
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Mike_as soon as this installs I need to get to bed07:41
maddashxtknight: errr...."sudo aptitude"?07:42
vvlawxtknight,http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/87/07:42
xtknightmaddash: there is an argument you pass aptitude, but i dont know what it needs to be07:42
m4jqpmy friend just installed unbuntu and he says that it didnt ask him to imput an root pass ... how can he find/make a new one? (just installed)07:42
vvlawxtknight, something did not reinstall.07:42
DBO!root | m4jqp07:42
ubotum4jqp: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:42
vvlawxtknight,and did not repleace it07:42
m4jqpno quick and dirty?07:43
DBOm4jqp, does he REALLY want a root password?07:43
m4jqpyou need it to do almost anything07:43
DBOno you dont07:43
tonyyarussoNot true07:43
maddashm4jqp: sudo passwd07:43
DBOthats what sudo is for07:43
m4jqpwell to install stuff you need it07:43
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DBOm4jqp, have him type his password when installing07:43
tonyyarussoRead the wiki page ^^07:43
DBOm4jqp, sudo apt-get install package will prompt for a passowrd07:43
xtknightvvlaw: it looks like your mplayer fonts are missing07:44
m4jqpsaid it didnt ask him to imput it07:44
maddashm4jqp: open a cmdline, do "sudo passwd"..."su" can be configured via "sudo su".07:44
DBOhe then types his password07:44
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DBOmaddash, generally we dont advertise that method right away07:44
m4jqpok thx07:44
xtknightvvlaw: i really don't know what to do from there, the fonts should be available online somewhere07:44
DBOwe like to teach about sudo first07:44
khaije1h3xis: oh ok, that is the exact equivalent of what i'm doing...07:44
h3xiskhaije1, you did that and it doesnt work?07:45
khaije1did you need to change any sshd settings? ya...07:45
maddashDBO: "we"? KISS.07:45
h3xisnope07:45
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amicrawlerdoes any body know how to chat voice dcc ?07:45
maddashDBO: he didn't ask for a lesson.07:45
vvlawxtknight, lol.. the font is not important. the xv output and alsa support is aimportant07:45
Mike_maddash, half way thru copying files07:46
h3xiskhaije1, have you taken into account that your corp has port 22 blocked?07:46
DBOmaddash, opening up root directly will present security issues07:46
maddashmike_: ok, gtg pass out. good luck.07:46
DBOlater07:46
xtknightvvlaw: oh, i thought that error was stopping you07:46
xtknightvvlaw: my mplayer has xv and alsa support and i didnt compile it :/07:46
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Mike_Thanks for the help maddash07:47
vvlawxtknight,yeap . yester i apt and install it , it has xv and alsa support07:47
vvlawxtknight,but from i compiled it , they were gone :(07:47
cmweb!sysstat07:48
ubotusysstat: sar, iostat and mpstat - system performance tools for Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 146 kB, installed size 644 kB07:48
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khaije1h3xis: it's not that, straight ssh is fine, i can do X-forwarding as well07:48
cmwebHow do i use sysstat?07:48
hepmeis Synaptic package manager a product of GNOME or is it ubuntu specific? I ask because it allows you to manage repositories but not all linux distros use apt-get like repositories yet can still run GNOME07:48
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xtknightvvlaw: that is very odd..... so `mplayer -vo help` reports no xv when you use the apt-get version of mplayer?07:49
cmwebOK i got the thing installed khermans but what now?07:50
h3xishepme, it was developed for debian07:50
hepmewhat other s ystems besides debian and ubuntu/kubuntu use debian like packages07:50
Rprp`  ChanServ dikkie Rprp Yogho|Bed ZwarteCobra {-_-}07:50
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vvlawxtknight, maybe .because i want to back of that version07:51
cmwebkhermans, now what i got it installed07:51
h3xishepme, xandros i think07:52
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xtknightvvlaw: sorry, i guess you will have to compile again..  i dont know why xv is not in your version by default though07:53
hepmewhats a strong coffee? coffee with mountain dew in it?07:53
xtknightdark french roast07:53
Mike_can you set up Ubuntu so that when you change desktops it looks like you are changing to a different side of a "cube"07:53
juanchito2006Colombian07:53
vvlawxtknight,do you know the xv support fuction? --enable-xv?07:53
xtknightMike_: yes, use Beryl or XGL/compiz07:54
xtknightvvlaw: i don't know, sorry, all i know is XV is enabled for me when I do `sudo apt-get install mplayer`.  ive never had to compile mplayer for XV or alsa support07:54
Mike_is it grapgics card dependant?07:54
zcat[1] Mike_ very..07:54
Mike_*graphics07:54
xtknightMike_: you need drivers that do accelerated opengl, i think only intel, nvidia and ati will work with it07:54
Mike_I have an ATI Radeon 200m express07:55
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vvlawxtknight, it's ok...thanks for your help :)07:55
asc__Is there a program in a defauly install that can translate hex into text?07:55
jarrod10nick07:55
cmwebmike, i got the same except i got 400 series (not sure which one)07:55
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cmwebHow do i get beryl, apt-get ?07:56
zcat[1] asc__: python asc() will do one character at a time. Not sure what else will do it07:56
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Mike_I am sure it can handle it.. It has 128 megs of ram on it07:56
asc__zcat:okay, that should work07:56
cmwebHow is beryl obtained07:57
xtknightcmweb: just google `ubuntu beryl`07:57
xtknightzcat: isn't that for decimal ASCII, not hex?07:57
cmwebi wish this thing would stop indexing07:58
cmwebis thweir any way to make it stop doing that07:59
vvlawxtknight,i tried to recompile it07:59
vvlawvvlaw@vvlaw-laptop:~/tools/player/MPlayer-1.0rc1$ ./configure --enable-gui --enable-network --enable-real --enable-mp3lib --enable-alsa --enable xv07:59
cmwebits draging my performance dowwn with it07:59
zcat[1] xtknight: python will interpret 0xNN correctly though..07:59
xtknightvvlaw: you are missing a dash/hyphen at the end of your command07:59
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vvlawvvlaw@vvlaw-laptop:~/tools/player/MPlayer-1.0rc1$ ./configure --enable-gui --enable-network --enable-real --enable-mp3lib --enable-alsa --enable xv07:59
vvlaw,oh :(07:59
zcat[1] funny, can't remember how to use asc() now either.. says it's not defined :(07:59
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vvlawxtknight, oh:( forgot to add "-"08:00
cmweb!indexing08:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about indexing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:00
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jarrod10 !hfs+08:01
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse08:01
kdhssfd388844ohh kayyy, so who wants to hear my problems08:01
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kdhssfd388844and why is my nick name jibberish08:01
kdhssfd388844thats better08:01
BHSPitMonkeywhat's better?08:02
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NateToshibamy nick lol08:02
NateToshibaok, well im new to linux and everything08:02
cmweb!hddcache08:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hddcache - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:02
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cmwebthis thing is really starting to piss me off08:02
NateToshibaand xp is on my frist partiton, kubutu on number 2 with a 2gb swap, and i cant get dual booting working :(08:02
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cmwebwhat does the hard drive do in down time?08:03
xtknightcmweb: put your `dmesg` in pastebin, and maybe we can help you08:04
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cmwebdmesg?08:04
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cmwebyou mean the iostat output?08:04
xtknightcmweb: type it in the terminal08:04
vvlawxtknight,compile error:(08:04
cmwebYeah im going to paste bin that08:05
xtknightvvlaw: do you use edgy , 32-bit or 64-bit?  i might be able to make a package for you08:05
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xtknightvvlaw: though it would be better if we debugged your compile problems08:05
cmwebIts kinda hard for me to getinto paste bin with this thing being like it is08:06
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xtknightcmweb: well is there anything in dmesg indicating an index operation?  what about just rebooting? that may fix it as bad as it sounds08:07
vvlawxtknight, edgy 32bit :)08:07
cmwebxtknight i reboot once then in five minutes after its all done it does it again08:07
xtknightvvlaw: what is the compile error?08:07
vvlawxtknight, http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/127108:08
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xtknightcmweb: im afraid i need a dmesg to properly debug it, but maybe u can sneak one in before the 5 mins is up08:08
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cmwebok its doing better i think i can get it  in08:08
cmwebhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/90/08:09
amanmehtahi every108:10
amanmehtahow r u ?08:10
duttafine08:10
duttayou?08:10
cmwebgone dutta08:10
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xtknightcmweb: your drives are operating in PIO, try enabling dma (`sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdN`) N being ur drive08:10
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xtknightvvlaw: sorry, the site is very slow for me so you'll have to wait a second08:11
duttano just busy08:11
vvlawthe offcial paste website is slow for me :( so i paste in my country's website sorry08:12
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cmwebxtknight, they just sprung up even more active08:12
cmwebi mean it08:12
cmwebi mean   it sprung up08:13
QMarioHAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!08:13
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xtknightcmweb: hmmm that's not good ;)08:13
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cmwebthirteen minutes after here08:13
xtknight2:13 here08:13
randomiAnyone out there installed Mangos before?08:14
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cmweb"/dev/hda:08:14
cmweb setting using_dma to 1 (on)08:14
cmweb using_dma    =  1 (on)"08:14
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pradeep_how to make a grub bot diskette08:15
asfalt!flash08:15
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:15
xtknightvvlaw: it still hasn't loaded.  i may have to wait till tomorrow to help, i have to sleep soon :P08:16
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cmwebxtknight, got any ideas08:16
xtknightcmweb: youre saying it got worse, righT?08:16
JunkNodeHappy new year!!!08:16
cmwebxtknight, year some what08:17
xtknightcmweb: sorry, i relaly dont know why your HDs are being accessed so much, i would have thought dma would offload some of the processing off the cpu08:17
cmwebyeah*08:17
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vvlawxthnight. it desn't matter,but can i have your another contacts?08:17
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xtknightvvlaw: email xt.knight@gmail.com or i am `xtknight` at forums.anandtech.com08:18
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xtknightjust google my name i'm all over the place lol08:18
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cmwebHow long could it take to map 64 GB?08:19
xtknightcmweb: map it, what do u mean?08:19
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vvlawxtknight.ok , you go sleep first :) thank you08:20
cmwebwhat is it suposedly doing, from what you can tell from the log08:20
xtknightcmweb: i am not sure dmesg contains much info08:20
xtknight(related to your issue at least008:21
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l33thello08:21
l33tI need some assistance please.08:21
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BHSPitMonkeybut you're l33t.08:21
l33theh08:22
l33tyeah08:22
l33tbut not with Linux08:22
l33tonly on XP08:22
BHSPitMonkeywhat could you possibly need from us n00bs?08:22
QwertyMlolz08:22
BHSPitMonkeyoh, then you aren't anything close to l33t.08:22
l33tI need assistance installing the Nvidia driver for ubuntu08:22
QwertyMhe is part 1337, he's l33t08:22
asfalt:008:22
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx?08:22
VerdRousseauhow can I run an application from my applications tab as root?08:22
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cmwebSorry xtknight, but did that say anything?08:23
GhostFreemanDoes ext3 ever need to be defragmented, or does this occur automatically08:23
l33tI already installed that package via Package Manager08:23
BHSPitMonkeyVerdRousseau, type the command in a terminal with "sudo" at the front08:23
VerdRousseauso say I wanted to use the NmapFe08:23
VerdRousseausudo NmapFE08:23
xtknightghostfreeman: ext3 really doesnt need defragmentation08:23
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BHSPitMonkeyl33t, oh, you need to edit your xorg.conf still?08:23
GhostFreemanI see08:24
BHSPitMonkeyVerdRousseau, no caps08:24
l33tI dunno08:24
l33tI downloaded that file and ran the command it said to enable it08:24
BHSPitMonkeyVerdRousseau, caps in *nix commands are rare08:24
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VerdRousseauco08:24
VerdRousseauoo I see08:24
l33tNVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver These XFree86 4.x/X.Org binary drivers provide optimized hardware acceleration of OpenGL applications via a direct-rendering X Server and support the newer GeForce, nForce and Quadro families of NVIDIA chipsets.  AGP, TV-out and flat panel displays are also supported.08:24
l33t If you have a TNT, TNT2, or older GeForce, you may need the nvidia-glx-legacy package instead of this one.08:24
l33t To enable the driver, run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable".08:24
l33tI did that and it gave me an error08:24
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, run "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" in a terminal (no quotes)08:24
BHSPitMonkeywhat kind of card is it?08:25
l33tsweet08:25
l33tit opened the file08:25
l33tNvidia GeForceFX 520008:25
l33tmy motherboard only supports PCI08:25
l33tunfortunately08:25
asc_ShayGuy: Ping.  I got disconnected.08:25
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, scroll down to Section "Device"08:25
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, and where it says "Driver" there, change nv to nvidia08:25
BHSPitMonkeyif it isn't already so08:25
l33tI am there08:26
asc_Could somebody kick my ghost?  "asc__".  I need to identify in order to pm08:26
amanmehtahi every108:26
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BHSPitMonkeyalso, uninstall the legacy package and install nvidia-glx instead08:26
l33twait08:26
asfalt!java08:26
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository08:26
l33tit says08:26
l33tSection "Device"08:26
l33tIdentifier"Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller"08:26
l33tDriver"i810"08:26
l33tBusID"PCI:0:2:0"08:26
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l33tthat is the onboard08:26
BHSPitMonkeyasc_, why can't you identify? is __ the registered nick?08:26
asc_BHTSPitMonkey: yes08:26
ShayGuyRead you here. Can I help?08:26
TuTUxHAPPY NEW YEAR~~08:26
asc_Oh, good.08:27
l33thello?08:27
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, ah. is the picture coming out of the nvidia card??08:27
amanmehtawht id d url for source-o-magic?08:27
l33tI am running my onboard right now08:27
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asc_shayguy, I'm un-able to pm for now it looks like.08:27
l33tto install the driver with a GUI08:27
BHSPitMonkeyasc_, /msg nickserv ghost asc__ PASSWORD08:27
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asc_thanks, BHSP08:27
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BHSPitMonkeynp08:27
ShayGuyI kept a transcript.08:27
l33tso what I exactly do I do that now?08:28
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BHSPitMonkeyl33t, open another terminal tab or something, and run lspci08:28
l33tbut I didn't change that first thing08:28
amanmehtahow 2 talk 2 ubuto?08:28
l33tSection "Device"08:28
l33tIdentifier"Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller"08:28
l33tDriver"i810"08:28
l33tBusID"PCI:0:2:0"08:28
l33tthat should be changed right?08:28
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, join #ubuntu-xgl , I'll talk you through this there08:28
BHSPitMonkeyI've done this exact thing before08:28
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RodrigoKris_hello08:31
ledementeHi all, I just isntalled Frostwire again, and it seems to be unable to connect, stuck on "starting connection".08:31
amicrawlerhey rod08:31
RodrigoKris_happy new year for all08:31
amicrawlerwhats up08:31
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amicrawlerRod what ver of irc are you using08:32
bruenigfrostwire errors make my brain hurt08:32
ledementeMine too. :(08:32
RodrigoKris_<amicrawler> 6.008:32
ledementeBut it also says it detects a firewall.08:33
amicrawlermirc08:33
kd7swhazureus makes me want to cry08:33
amicrawleror xchat08:33
RodrigoKris_yes08:33
RodrigoKris_mirc08:33
amicrawlerin wine08:33
bruenigazureus too08:33
amicrawleror windows08:33
RodrigoKris_en windows08:33
bruenigazureus is right along with frostwire08:33
RodrigoKris_xp08:33
kd7swhp2p is dead to me08:33
bruenigjava pretty much can go08:33
amicrawlerhumm08:33
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amicrawleri have it in vista08:33
RodrigoKris_why?08:33
Flannel!offtopic08:33
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!08:33
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amicrawlerRod did you ever join the light side08:34
ZyphernHey guys, I downloaded the latest Ubuntu Distro and booted it but when I do the computer I boot it on looses internet as well as every other computer in the house08:34
kd7swh#offtopic is always dead08:35
ZyphernSo I select DHCP from the network settings dropdown list but it still doesnt work08:35
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ledementeSo, I thought it might be a firewall issue.08:35
TooR4uis there any flash decompiler in linux....?08:35
ZyphernDo I have to install ubuntu to my hdd for the internet to work08:35
ledementeWhat port is Frostwire on? How can I allow it through?08:35
amicrawleri got flash9 to work in kde08:35
TooR4uI am searching 4 that from 2 daysss08:35
bruenigTooR4u, I highly doubt it08:35
bruenigI got flash9 to work in gnome and xfce08:35
amicrawlervery cool08:35
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kd7swhZyphern, I have the same problem I have to use dhcpcd to fix it08:35
Zyphernwhich requires installing it to hdd right?08:36
TooR4ubruenig, falsh9 is flash decompiler?08:36
amicrawleris there a bin for birdnest? app08:36
bruenigTooR4u, no, there is no flash decompiler08:36
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kd7swhZyphern, I would think so, but you maybe able to install it to ram if you have enough memory08:36
amicrawlersorry people  songbird08:37
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Zyphernokay, is dhcpcd difficult to setup?08:37
TooR4ubruenig, atleast flash compiler 4 linux?08:37
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bruenigTooR4u, there is none08:37
TooR4ui am fedup with the searching of flash in linux08:37
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TooR4uohh shxxtt08:38
adorablepuppyHello08:38
bruenigTooR4u, there is a flash plugin, there is no flash decompiler, unless we are having a semantical problem here08:38
cyraqdoes ubuntu 6.10 support dual-screens using an ATI card?08:38
adorablepuppy:( Where's deb at? I tried a command with deb and it says command not found.08:38
TooR4uany alernate for flash?08:39
bruenigadorablepuppy, for flash?08:39
kd7swhZyphern, no just run synaptic as root and find it in the list it is a one click install like most apps in ubuntu08:39
bruenigTooR4u, there is gnash, but it is poor08:39
TooR4uohhhhhhh08:39
adorablepuppyNo. I'm trying to do the edgy beryl install08:39
cyraqdoes fedora core 6 support dual-screens using an ATI card?08:39
cyraqerm i mean08:39
cyraqdoes ubuntu 6.10 support dual-screens using an ATI card?08:39
m4jqp<3 beryl08:39
bruenigTooR4u, are you looking for something that will play flash?08:40
Flanneladorablepuppy: what are you trying to do with "deb"?  Are you supposed to be adding it to your sources instead?08:40
Zyphernnow, does this require internet connectivity to do kd7swh?08:40
adorablepuppyhrm. . . .I had realized that when I read it 10 seconds ago.08:40
adorablepuppy-_-;;;;;; /me is retarded08:41
kd7swhZyphern, installing dhcpcd does yes08:41
Zyphernwell theres an issue :)08:41
kd7swhZyphern, not using it though08:41
ZyphernHow am I supposed to fix my internet not working, when what I have to do involved using the internet08:41
kd7swhZyphern, that is if you install to hdd08:41
cmwebi hate update db08:41
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kd7swhZyphern, sorry i forgot you are on live-cd08:42
Zyphernso wait, if I do install to my hdd though08:43
Zyphernhow can I set up dhcpcd without using the internet?08:43
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amicrawler<adorablepuppy> No. I'm trying to do the edgy beryl install  i saw it on somebodys laptop the other day  was way cool08:43
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cyraqdoes ubuntu 6.10 support dual-screens using an ATI card?08:44
kd7swhZyphern, the only way you could install dhcpcd without network con. is by storing to deb (install) file on another cd or something08:44
kd7swhthe deb*08:44
Zyphernah okay08:44
Zyphernthx08:44
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elyonDoes the Linux kernel in Ubuntu get updated automatically?08:47
abdusabriHi, When trying to configure (xgl), i had this error and tried searching the web, any ideas :)08:47
abdusabri - compiz-kde: Depends: compiz (= 0.0.2-4ubuntu2) but 1:0.3.3-0ubuntu2~git2006112~edgy1 is to be installed08:47
bruenigelyon, yes in time08:47
BHSPitMonkeyelyon, it comes through the update manager08:47
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BHSPitMonkeyso, it's not "automatic"08:47
BHSPitMonkeybut it'll let you know.08:47
elyonBut its not something I need to consciously go to a website every  now and then and check...08:47
bruenigwell it is automatic, just not immediate08:47
bruenigelyon, no, it will show up in the update manager08:48
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Administratorhi, quick question08:48
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elyonOkay... and the actual update is automatic?  Or does it require a tutorial to do it? :P08:48
scribeboxi have a happyily running ubuntu-server 6.1008:48
BHSPitMonkeyelyon, familiar with the update manager? the orange square in the notification area?08:48
scribeboxi want to add an aditional 250GB harddrive :D08:48
bruenigelyon, no, in ubuntu there is a little icon that shows up in the panel when you have an update, and you click on it and install them08:48
elyonBHSPitMonkey - vaguely familiar... it's popped up a few times for me to update software.08:48
BHSPitMonkeyelyon, the orange square will light up in the notification area, by the clock.  you'll click on it, put in your password, and see the updates at hand.08:49
scribeboxermm, how would i update the fstab/format etc etc..08:49
elyonOkay, excellent.  Thank you.08:49
BHSPitMonkeyelyon, from there you can re-check, or click Install Updates08:49
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BHSPitMonkeyelyon, for kernels, it will tell you that it won't take effect until after a reboot08:49
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bruenigscribebox, sudo fdisk -l, find the device name and format it like everything else in the fstab08:50
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scribeboxno ..08:51
scribeboxi want to format it to ext3 (maybe reiser..)08:51
scribeboxand ive never really messed with the fstab :s08:51
scribeboxif i post the output of fdisk -l08:51
scribeboxon a paste08:51
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scribeboxand my OLD fstab08:51
scribeboxcan someone make me a new fstab :D08:52
scribeboxso i can just ftp it over ;p08:52
scribeboxand be done with it...08:52
scribeboxand maybe i can learn by example..08:52
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bruenigscribebox, with the new UID stuff, I am kind of behind, so I am probably not the best help08:53
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amicrawlersongbird is cool08:53
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=== bruenig was not impressed by the screencast demo
BHSPitMonkeyyeah08:54
BHSPitMonkeyI was thinking songbird was going to be really cool08:54
BHSPitMonkeybut it's actually pretty... bloated feeling08:55
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BHSPitMonkeyI think the browser-based music player thing is a big fat gimmick08:55
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BHSPitMonkeynobody cares08:55
BHSPitMonkeyit might as well be a firefox extension08:55
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amicrawleryeah i know08:57
amanmehta hi,i m online now.i hav connected laptop(Windows) 2 net n connected d PC(linux) 2 d laptop n thn both hav net connection. i m really happy tht r in harmony now. but i can access windows shares folders through but dont knw how 2 access linux(ubuntu) shared drives frm windows xpa08:57
amicrawlerbut all windows user can feel free from the drm08:57
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amanmehtahow 2 share files 2 Lan in ubuntu ?08:59
amicrawlerright click and share folder08:59
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amanmehtaok but wil it share 2 windows xp?08:59
amanmehtawindows xp is sharing its files n net connection now09:00
amicrawleryes09:00
amicrawlerin ubuntu you need samba09:01
amicrawleror smb09:01
amanmehtan where 2 look 4 thm in windows xp ?09:01
amicrawlerto share09:01
ledementeHi, what's "ipp" service running on 631?09:01
amanmehtanetwork drives ?09:01
amicrawlerthe ipp printer09:01
amicrawlerport09:01
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amanmehtai dont knw whether samba is there or not in my system but already i can accees windows shared resources now09:02
amicrawleri run  samba  so i can share  my folders09:02
ledementeamicrawler, ipp printer? What is that?09:02
amanmehtahow do i find out whether samba is installed in my ubuntu system?09:02
BHSPitMonkeyamanmehta, as a courtesy, could you refrain from substitutions like "2", "4", "u", "r", etc.09:02
amicrawleryou will all so need to know your  ip for your computer09:03
amanmehtaok wil try to cut the short hand09:03
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amanmehtahow 2 find out whether samba is there in my system n also which version ?09:04
amanmehtasorry09:04
amanmehtahow to find out ?09:04
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noiesmoamanmehta, type "dpkg-query -l |grep samba" without quotes in terminal will list the samba packages you have installed09:06
asfalt!samba09:06
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT09:06
asfalti like this bot, very handy ;)09:06
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amanmehtathank you everyone for chipping in your help09:07
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pilgrimHow the heck to I synch my palm with my Ubuntu 6.10.09:08
pilgrimThrough evolution?09:08
asfaltspeaking of which, i removed ekiga which seems to have removed ubuntu-desktop . i somewhat have a feeling i need the ubuntu-desktop package09:08
Flannel!ubuntu-desktop | asfalt09:09
ubotuasfalt: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.09:09
asfaltawesome again09:09
asfaltthanks09:09
amanmehtai tried the dpkg-query -l | grep samba command in terminal09:10
amanmehtai got d following out put09:10
amanmehtadharmesh@dharmesh-desktop:~$ dpkg-query -l |grep samba09:10
amanmehtaii  samba-common                           3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1    Samba common files used by both the server a09:10
amicrawlerhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32767909:10
amanmehtawhat does it mean ?09:10
amicrawlerthere is a simply way for sharing09:10
amanmehtai  m hav samba n d version number is the number given09:11
amanmehta?09:11
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amicrawlerthen you do not have samba09:13
asfaltanother q; i am dual booting and ubuntu found and mounted ntfs partitions , in particular i do not care to have them mounted and certainly do not want the icons on my desktop. should i just edit my /etc/fstab manually so they are not auto mounted on boot?09:13
rizwaan"openoffice" Tools-Options-OpenOffice.Org-Memory --> Enable systray quickstarter09:13
rizwaanEnable systray quickstarter option is not "saved"09:13
amicrawlerhttp://www.bnro.de/~schmidjo/ this might help you09:13
amicrawlergui interface09:13
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amanmehtai tried the dpkg-query -l | grep samba command in terminal09:16
amanmehtai got d following out put09:16
amanmehtadharmesh@dharmesh-desktop:~$ dpkg-query -l |grep samba09:16
amanmehtaii  samba-common                           3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1    Samba common files used by both the server a09:16
amanmehtawhat does it mean ? i  m hav samba n d version number is the number given ?09:16
amicrawlerhttp://www.tweakhound.com/linux/samba/page_4.htm09:17
amicrawlerthis relly helped me out09:17
amanmehtaok09:17
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amicrawlerthis site09:17
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amicrawlerhttp://www.tweakhound.com/linux/samba/page_1.htm09:18
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amicrawlerthere is the begaing from xp to linux09:18
amicrawlerevery gui in linux has a command center like suse09:19
amicrawleror very simaler09:19
amicrawlerto kde gnome xfce etc:09:19
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amicrawlerthis site was very very usful to me in setting up sharing09:21
amicrawlerbookmark it09:21
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amicrawlerif you need more help  you can dcc voice me09:24
Jester45i have a problem with gl on my ati, when i run glxgears i get a fatal IO error and the gears run really slow and jump09:25
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Jester45anyone know how to fix this?09:26
jasinwhy is ubuntu so bugy?09:26
jasinfix what?09:26
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Jester45 i have a problem with gl on my ati, when i run glxgears i get a fatal IO error and the gears run really slow and jump09:27
jasinoh, that's a bug .. I think it was reported on launchpad09:27
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cybercodHello room09:29
jasinI get an error message when I run that too.09:29
jasinI got an ati 9100 igp09:29
amicrawleri don't09:29
amicrawlerruning it now09:29
Rookie_!ati09:29
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:29
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jasinI get the error message: Error: couldn't open display (null)09:29
cybercodhas ATI's drivers gotten any better since AMD took them over?09:30
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MengChanghello09:30
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amicrawleris the gears suposta be slow09:30
jasinMy understanding is if you install the ati binary drivers you have to first uninstall the flxgr driver09:31
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jasinwhy doesn't always work.09:31
MengChangHello cybercod09:31
jasinwhich doesn't always work.09:31
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amicrawlerthat does not aply to me i run nvidia09:31
jasincyber, not for linux09:31
jasinmy graphics are built in no way of changing that09:31
cybercodcrummy09:32
jasinthere is an ati x server btw.09:32
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cybercodStill having tons of ATI problems with 3d Accelleration when using proprietary drivers?09:32
amicrawleri'm off to bed people  it is 00:32 pst here09:32
jasincyber, i've always had ati problems in linux09:32
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jasinmy mouse dont work in ubuntu either I had to buy a wireless mouse09:33
cybercodI'm Nvidia now... but i still have that card laying around... was hoping AMD would wake their azzez up09:33
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jasinThe latest nvidia cards are faster but their very expensive09:34
cybercodlatest cards always are09:34
jasinnvidia cards always are09:34
jasinlol09:34
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cybercodi've got a problem I was hoping to get some advice on09:35
jasinubuntu seems buggier then fedora09:35
MengChangwhat's wrong?09:35
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MengChangMaybe I can help you09:35
jasinmouse dont work, computer hangs when i restart, ati support sucks09:36
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jasinacpi and apm is crapy in ubuntu09:36
jasingdm is slowww09:37
cybercodi'm having strange freezes while using zsnes09:37
cybercodolder PC...09:37
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cybercodusing nvidia09:38
cybercodgeforce 209:38
cybercodit runs great for 5 min then freezes everything... can't even change numlock status09:38
cybercodVLC does the same thing when trying to escape fullscreen09:39
jasindoesn't ZSNES require directx?09:39
cybercodzsnes is in the repos09:39
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jasincybercod, post your bugs on bugs.launchpad.net they'll fix em.09:39
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jasinthere are 21938  bugs posted for ubuntu09:41
cybercodok... i was thinking it had to do with some drive errors... its my 4-year-old son's PC... and he was hard-rebooting it too often09:41
jasinthats way worse then windows09:41
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jasincybercod, yeah, I bet something got corrupted rebooted all them times09:42
Flanneljasin: I'd hardly think the number of bugs is indicative of "goodness", but Im sure quite a few of us would love to talk about it, but in #ubuntu-offtopic09:42
jasincybercod, yeah, I bet something got corrupted rebooting all them times09:42
cybercodis there a way to re-install all packages?09:42
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cybercodother than re-installing complete OS?09:42
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n2diyjasin: BS, Winder doesn't post there bugs.09:42
cybercodits not user specific09:42
jasinflannel, okay, when they going to update the kernel in ubuntu?09:42
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jasinn2diy, actually they do most of them are on the KB and listed in the patches in the windows update.09:44
Flanneljasin: kernel major versions are frozen each release, so never.09:44
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skydehello09:44
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n2diyjasin: ok the ones the admit to.09:44
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amanmehtai m using tvtime television viewer in ubuntu 6.06 but sumtimes it detects d capture card n sumtimes it just loads d webcam. how 2 configure n correct it? pls help.09:45
cybercodis there a way to do that?09:45
skydesome one know what sould i install to manage wireless connection like windows09:45
n2diythe*they09:45
cybercodum... does it detect your wireless card?09:45
skydeyes i currently using it09:46
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cybercodgimme a moment... looking up the package name09:46
bypskyde: I remember there was one, but I forgot the name....09:46
jasinflannel, not true, I just got a kernel update off of synaptics from a ubuntu repository, but its not the latest its was a 2.6.17 update, it was a 2.6.17.1-10.3409:46
Flanneljasin: oh, you're talking about patches, not kernel versions.09:47
skydedoes synaptic only a frontend for apt-get ?09:47
Madpilotskyde, yes09:47
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bypskyde: Network Manager09:48
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amanmehtai m using tvtime television viewer in ubuntu 6.06 but sumtimes it detects d capture card n sumtimes it just loads d webcam. how 2 configure n correct it? pls help.09:49
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cybercodyes, that was it09:49
byp:)09:49
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qballhello, quick question, has anyone ever gotten dri working for x1950 pro?09:49
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jasinflannel, of course09:50
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qballi have tried numerous amounts of time and no luck09:51
amanmehta i m using tvtime television viewer in ubuntu 6.06 but sumtimes it detects d capture card n sumtimes it just loads d webcam. how 2 configure n correct it? pls help.09:51
qballdamn nobody has huh09:51
amanmehtacan any1 help ?09:52
byphuh?09:52
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skydere09:52
amanmehta i m using tvtime television viewer in ubuntu 6.06 but sumtimes it detects d capture card n sumtimes it just loads d webcam. how 2 configure n correct it? pls help.09:52
jasinflannel, the patches are based on kernel versions. Why do you think their labeled patch-2.6.19 blah blah?09:52
skydeubuntu really is the best linux distro09:52
bypI like it09:52
jasinskyde, yes09:52
bypno distro wars, please :-X09:52
jasinbyp, who's debating distros????09:53
bypjust hope it never gets there, that's all :)09:53
skydehehe09:53
bypSLACKWARE IS TEH BEST09:53
byp^09:53
skydelol09:53
cybercodwhat would happen if I selected all installed packages and clicked re-install09:53
BHSPitMonkeyskyde, sure it is, for you and me09:53
skydei mean user friendliness09:53
bypIt's a well-rounded distro09:53
jasincyber, nothing .. it'll just reinstall all those packages09:54
amanmehta i m using tvtime television viewer in ubuntu 6.06 but sumtimes it detects d capture card n sumtimes it just loads d webcam. how 2 configure n correct it? pls help.09:54
cybercodwould it keep my desktop settings and such?09:54
amanmehtacan any1 read me ?09:54
skydei didn't try a recent fedora core build but i is probably like mandriva09:54
jasincyber, alot of times it wont even redownload then it just reinstall them from the .deb files on your system09:54
cybercodyes, aman.. I just don't know how to help you09:54
jasincyber, alot of times it wont even redownload them it just reinstall them from the .deb files on your system09:54
Madpilotamanmehta, yes - no need to repeat so often, if anyone can help, they will...09:54
amanmehtaok ........ i thought i was invisible 2 eery109:55
bypanyone know why distros like fedora need all those CDs? unnecessary software, perhaps?09:55
cybercodwould there be a crc check involved in case some packages are damaged from hardboots?09:55
bypubuntu is on once happy little CD09:55
amanmehtavery109:55
jasincyber, your settings should be fine.09:55
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bypone*09:55
Cyphertwo**09:55
Cyphercool09:55
Madpilotamanmehta, try using real English, not leetspeek...09:55
Cyphersmoky jones09:55
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mwebyp: I don't know why they don't have a minimal install cd09:56
jasincyber, you should only lose your settings if you do a complete removal first09:56
amanmehtaok09:56
bypaye09:56
Cypherits the new year man09:56
bypyup09:56
Cypherbad things will happen09:56
cybercodok... i'm about to try it09:56
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mwebyp: ubuntu has a hugh dvd as well as the small install cd09:56
jasincyber, i would still back them up though :p09:56
BHSPitMonkeyMadpilot, tell me about it...09:56
bypyeah, but I use the CD for backwards compatibility09:56
cybercodNow he tells me09:56
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bypsome of my comps don't have DVD drives09:56
skydewhy dont merge kubuntu xubuntu and ubuntu together and choose your desktop a login time09:57
MadpilotBHSPitMonkey, about leetspeek, you mean?09:57
jasincyber, if you is doing a complete reinstall of the entire system you may lose some settings, if you is just reinstalling some packages everything should be fine.09:57
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Flannelskyde: you can, just install the other *ubuntu-desktop packages09:57
Madpilotskyde, because that would make the installer more complex than it needs to be09:57
mwebyp: but ubuntu has apt-get so if you have internet you don't need to have all the software on a dvd09:57
Madpilotand you'd be back to the multi-CD installs other distros have09:57
BHSPitMonkeyMadpilot, pretty much. That "u" "r" "2" "4" crap makes my eye twitch.09:57
bypThat's what I like about it, mwe09:57
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bypI just rely on apt to get my software - I don't like having superfluous CDs09:58
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jasinyou can install whatever desktop you want, sudo apt-get install kde for example, installs kde09:58
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mwesecurity patches don't make it to those CDs either09:58
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skydewhat are you thinking about opensolaris09:59
jasinsecurity patches have to be downloaded09:59
bypfaster download+install than windows update :P09:59
jasinbyp, definitly09:59
mwejasin: they don't have to be downloaded seperately in ubuntu09:59
Madpilotjasin, use the 'kubuntu-desktop' for KDE/Kubuntu, rather than just 'kde'10:00
cybercodyeah, and you don't have to reboot unless its a kernel patch10:00
jasinmwe, if their not included on the cd they do.10:00
mwejasin: they get installed with the software the requires them when you apt-get it10:00
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mwejasin: my point is you don't need the cd in ubuntu10:00
cybercodso far I've installed all four... xubuntu edubuntu kubuntu and ubuntu... i like just regular ubuntu the best10:00
mwejasin: not if you have internet and use apt-get10:00
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jasintry sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:01
mwejasin: yeah what about that?10:01
mwejasin: it works fine10:01
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jasinmwe, apt-get downloads its how it gets every update.10:01
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cybercodwhats the apt-get equivalent to *.*?10:01
jasinmwe, its still downloading them its just ussing apt-get to do it10:01
mwejasin: because the updates are integrated10:01
Flannelcybercod: you don't want to do that.10:01
bypXD10:02
cybercod??10:02
byplol10:02
n2diyapt-get update10:02
mwejasin: I know. I said you don't have to download the patches SEPERATELY10:02
jasinmwe, no their not, apt-get goes to repositories, thats where the security patches are from.10:02
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da_sweTTfuck you10:02
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jasinmwe, no their not, apt-get goes to repositories, thats where the security patches come from.10:02
zeax_= =10:02
mwejasin: of course it goes to the repos and dont repeat10:03
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mwejasin: what's your point?10:03
jasinmwe, blah, you are arguing semantics10:03
jasinmwe, talk to someone else10:03
mwejasin: I'm not buthead10:03
bypterminology, my friends?10:03
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da_sweTTyou sweet10:04
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bypdd takes so long on my iPod...10:05
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DBOda_sweTT, it would be really swell if you could lay off the personal insults from now on =)10:07
jasincyber, aptitude is nearly the same as apt-get10:08
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bypit can search too10:08
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bypand has an ncurses interface when no args are used10:08
bypbut i find the ncurses too confusing10:08
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jasinapt-get is not confussing its very easy to use10:08
makuseruapt-get is the best of the package managers10:09
jasinif you want a graphical front end for apt-get then use synaptic10:09
makuseruof any distro10:09
bypaptitude's ncurses interface is confusing*10:09
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bypi like apt-get10:09
makuserui hate YaSt10:09
jasinI like apt-get too10:09
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jasinyum is similar to apt-get but thats not included in ubuntu10:09
mweaptitude is not the same as apt-get. aptitude keeps a seperate log which makes it possible to aptitidu install kubuntu-desktop then aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop if you decide you don't want it. try that with apt-get and you'll see it's doesn't remove kde10:09
bypapt-get is just a wrapper for dpkg, right....?10:10
byplike yum is a wrapper for rpm10:10
mwebyp: kinda yeah10:10
Flannelbyp: no.  apt-get is the http interface, it uses dpkg to do all the installing though, if that's what you're getting at.10:10
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bypk, thanks10:10
makuseruanyone else noticed that Vista rips of alot of stuff from OSX?10:10
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Flannel!offtopic10:11
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:11
mwebyp: does yum enable you to install something over the internet or only local rpms?10:11
bypinternet10:11
jasinif you can't get somethign off apt-get then its not apt-get it either doesn't exists with the package name you are ussing or you need to edit the repository list to look elsewhere10:11
gostviewhappy new year to all :D10:11
mwebyp: then I think it's similar10:11
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mwegostview: you too ;)10:12
jasinI found the kubuntu-desktop on synaptics.10:12
jasinuse: kubuntu-desktop10:12
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jasinmakuseru, yes10:13
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unikonis there any way i can get xmms to be my default mp3 player    xmms is what i want to play shoutcast playlist but that option never comes up10:14
tyme-yast sucks10:14
tyme-its buggy as hell10:14
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jasinmakuseru, some of the stuff in vista looks irraly similar to stuff thats been in os x and linux for years.10:14
tyme-i downloaded 3gb of data from system update and NOTHING was installed and cache was cleared10:14
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, hear, hear10:14
bypjasin: Vista and GNOME title bars...10:14
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jasinbyp, what?10:14
bypI think they looked the same10:14
jasinbyp, oh, yeah ..10:15
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, Suse was the first distro I ever used... it's lucky that it didn't completely turn me away from linux :P10:15
makuserujasin: ya, i saw a video on simalartities with OSX and alot is the same, teh weather stuff, calender, search10:15
makuseruand microsoft always clamis to be "innovating"10:15
tyme-i just removed suse and installed ubuntu tonight10:15
BHSPitMonkeyhahaha10:15
tyme-im never going back.10:15
bypI swear I remembered the title bars being the same10:15
BHSPitMonkeydo they really claim that?10:15
makuseruyes10:15
BHSPitMonkeyXD10:15
makuseruin every interview ive ever ready or seen10:15
BHSPitMonkeywow10:15
makuseruthe said that their "aero glass" is pusing limits of desktop computing10:16
mwetyme-: but suse is a decent distro as well don't you think?10:16
BHSPitMonkeynow they're just making jokes of themselves then10:16
Madpilotmakuseru, please move non-support chat to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere. Thanks.10:16
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bypby robbing us of valuable RAM10:16
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tyme-its decent, but buggy and slow compared to ubuntu10:16
tyme-ive only had ubuntu for a couple hours, suse for months10:16
makuseruwhen you can use Beryl and do so much more with 1/4th the computer10:16
ootputhi guys, can someone point me in the direction of some documention on running different WM's on different displays?10:16
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, you also used KDE, though, right?10:16
mwetyme-: Yeah I heard complaints about the slowness before10:16
bypMicrosoft is too constrained, whereas Linux, such as the interface, can be customized to your heart's desire10:16
jasini'm a student so I have tohave a working word processer and abi-word seems to be the best in linux but it still dont work as good as word 2003, so i'll probably have to run vista in a separate system.10:16
tyme-gnome.10:16
BHSPitMonkeythat would contribute to that...10:16
ootputwith ubuntu's startup mecahnism in mind?10:16
tyme-i do not like KDE10:17
Amaranthmakuseru: meh, compiz :)10:17
ootputjasin: that's a little extreme ;)10:17
tyme-beryl > compiz =] 10:17
mwejasin: you don't like openoffice I take it?10:17
BHSPitMonkeyjasin, does OOo not do it for you?10:17
ootputrunning vista for a working word processor10:17
arrenlexjasin: openoffice.org-writer is the best word processor in Linux10:17
jasinootput, runing word 2003 in wine is messy10:17
Amaranthtyme-: when is the last time you tried compiz?10:17
byparrenlex: i agree10:17
tyme-two days ago10:17
jasinarrenlex, open office slows down the system.10:17
makuserueww compiz10:17
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ootputjasin: with vista, you'll end up getting much more than you'd bargained for ;)10:17
arrenlexjasin: It shouldn't. Is this an old computer?10:17
ootputjasin: yes it is10:17
jasinIn linux I use gnome office10:17
Flannelarrenlex: no, [text editor]  and LaTeX is the best word processor for linux10:18
tyme-i reinstalled the distro tried compiz one last time then went back to good ole beryl.10:18
Amaranthtyme-: was it the compiz package in edgy?10:18
BHSPitMonkeyopenoffice is admittedly a resource hog of sorts10:18
jasinootput, I wouldn;t pay for it anyways, so its no big deal.10:18
BHSPitMonkeybuilt on java, is it not?10:18
ootputFlannel:  ++10:18
tyme-Amaranth:  compiz package from suse10:18
arrenlexjasin: If your system can't handle OOo, how do you expect to run Vista?! xD10:18
ootputwhat you see is what you mean10:18
jasinBHsp, it is, I use abiword10:18
BHSPitMonkeyhaha10:18
ootputhell, you can even use lyx at first10:18
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BHSPitMonkeyjasin, arrenlex's question... so true10:18
mweFlannel: I use latex for all me reports. Introducing it to someone used to using MS Word would probably scare him away though ;)10:18
tyme-imo java is horribly slow and full of memory leaks10:19
BHSPitMonkeymwe, what editor?10:19
tyme-it takes massive amount of memory and cpu power for a single app10:19
mweBHSPitMonkey: for latex?10:19
BHSPitMonkeyyeah10:19
mweBHSPitMonkey: emacs10:19
BHSPitMonkeyah10:19
ootputah, same10:19
jasinarrenlex, oh my system can handel it just fine I just choose not to hog up resources having it installed.10:19
bypvi10:19
mweBHSPitMonkey: with the acutex package10:19
ootputthere's a vim-latex package, iirc10:19
ootputbut I'm very satisfied with Emacs for latex10:19
BHSPitMonkeyI still like using WYSIWYG editors that look purdy10:20
Flannelvim-latexsuite10:20
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ootputyeah10:20
BHSPitMonkeyemacs is a little too gritty for me10:20
arrenlexjasin: Vista running in a virtual environment is, in your opinion, less of a resource hog?10:20
ootputsomething of the sort10:20
BHSPitMonkeyjasin, even beginning to compare OOo to vista as a resource hog is laughable10:20
jasinwho said I was goign to run vista in a virtual enviroment?10:20
ripperdaI'm seeing an annoying wireless ethernet problem, that I was hoping someone could help me with10:20
bypxd10:20
tyme-ripperda:  ask the question10:21
bypthat would help10:21
ootputno, he'd rather run vista instead of word2k3 in wine10:21
jasinBHsp, windows is a memory hog.10:21
tyme-ubuntu supported my wireless card out of the box10:21
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jasintyme, mine too10:21
mweootput: does word 2003 even work in standard wine?10:21
ripperdaI'm trying to run WEP, if I set the essid & wep key manually via iwconfig, everything works fine. but if I set those via the /etc/network/interfaces file, ifup doesn't seem to pick up the changes10:21
BHSPitMonkeymine too, but I still needed to get network-manager and stuff to use it.10:21
ootputit may support his wireless card, but could be very shitty to use10:21
BHSPitMonkeywhich I had to bring on a disk10:21
BHSPitMonkeywith its dependencies.10:22
mweootput: don't you need crossover or something?10:22
ripperdaI'm sure I'm doing something stupid wrong, just can't quite figure it out10:22
tyme-BHSPitMonkey:  what card?10:22
ootputmwe: i think it works for jasin; I haven't tried it myself10:22
ootputno real need :)10:22
mwenah10:22
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, some belkin. f5d7000 or something like that10:22
jasinI dont run word 200310:22
ripperdatyme-, thanks for any tips10:22
ripperdaI suspect that this is a config problem, rather than a device/driver problem10:23
tyme-ripperda:  im not sure, not a linux guru. i could be consired a newbie =)10:23
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, it showed up as a network device ootb, but IMO Ubuntu needs to ship with network-manager (applet)10:23
scribeboxok10:23
scribeboxi got a new harddrive in my ubuntu machine10:23
tyme-i thought it did, BHSPitMonkey10:23
scribeboxgot it formatted to resierfs10:23
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, nope.10:23
scribeboxand mounted it under10:23
tyme-actually im positive it does10:23
tyme-ubuntu 6.10 did10:23
scribebox/server/250GIG10:23
scribeboxand now im trying to edit the fstab file ;S10:23
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, umm, I would have noticed.10:23
scribeboxim tottally confused about this10:23
scribeboxUUID crap10:23
scribeboxcan anyone hlep :)?10:23
byp?10:23
tyme-i never installed a network manager app, it came with the distro10:23
bypSUID?10:24
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, I have a disk with the packages I had to collect to install nm-applet10:24
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tyme-i can set essid/wep key etc10:24
tyme-i dont use NM10:24
scribeboxUUID10:24
jasinyou have to have the hex key for your wep  to do wep, you can put the hex key in your network settings.10:24
ripperdatyme-, no problem :)10:24
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, I said that IMO ubuntu needs to ship with it.10:24
tyme-why? it ships with an app that does the same thing10:24
BHSPitMonkeyit's blatantly anti user-friendly10:24
ripperdajasin, how do I do that reliably? I set that in the config file, but it doesn't seem to catch. I have to set it manually every time via iwconfig10:24
jasinif you are in kde or kubuntu you can use kwifi10:24
tyme-the live cd was able to pick up my card and allow me to set essid / wep key10:25
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BHSPitMonkeysomething that a basic computer user could do in XP (connect to a wireless network) requires moderate skill in Ubuntu10:25
jasinripperda, you have to put it in your network settings and also kwifi if you are ussing kde or kubuntu.10:25
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BHSPitMonkeytyme-, it also gets really fun with WPA and its variants.10:25
mwewhat's the difference between kde and kubuntu in ubuntu10:25
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BoknoyI was wondering if anyone knows of a decent freeware app for x86 emulation for the purpose of testing distros in Windows before deciding which distro to switch to? VirtualPC type of thing, but freeware... don't want to be formatting and reinstalling all the time just trying to decide which one to use10:26
jasinripperda, you have to set it for eth1 if thats your wifi, too.10:26
mweI thought kde in ubuntu was kubuntu10:26
tyme-possibly, but i just use WEP10:26
makuseruit is isnt it?10:26
tyme-secure enough.10:26
BHSPitMonkeymwe, not necessarily10:26
ripperdajasin, unfortunately, not using kde/kubuntu. what do you mean by "network settings"? my wifi device is eth010:26
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, eh. All I hear from people is that WEP is a joke, as far as getting into an AP.10:26
arrenlexBoknoy: qemu10:26
arrenlex!qemu | Boknoy10:26
bypWPA > WEP10:27
ubotuBoknoy: qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo10:27
tyme-it is if you spend the time to collect the 2-4 million packets to decrypt10:27
pitdickerCan someone help me installing fglrx 8.24.8 on Ubuntu Edgy?10:27
mweBHSPitMonkey: well I know the kubuntu-desktop installs a lot of krap. I suppose that's the difference then ?10:27
arrenlexBoknoy: Also, MS has released Virtual PC. It is now free.10:27
tyme-airsnort does a good job of helping people crack WEP keys10:27
bypthat's where aireplay comes in handy10:27
jasinif you use wep use 128 bit10:27
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BHSPitMonkeytyme-, so Ubuntu shouldn't let users easily use WiFi?  Oh, and consider the method you have to use to connect to a network, if you were on a laptop and roamed.10:27
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jasinboth wep and wpa have been cracked10:27
tyme-but you also have to collect millions of packets for it to do so10:27
BHSPitMonkeymwe, Kubuntu uses KDE, but if you used Ubuntu and installed KDE, it wouldn't be Kubuntu10:28
tyme-BHSPitMonkey:  im on a laptop and used wifi out of the box10:28
jerpaptitude gives me the 'can not get lock' response I've checked the sysguard and I don't see anything running.    adept isn't running, synaptic isn't installed10:28
tyme-it clicked the applet on gnome task bar, entered in required info and i was connected to my network10:28
mweBHSPitMonkey: what if I installed ubuntu then kubuntu-desktop?10:28
bypjerp: root?10:28
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, so every time you want to use a different AP, you go and redo your settings? (Oh, and also cross your fingers for WEP)10:28
mweBHSPitMonkey: isn't the default window manager the only difference?10:28
jerplike sudo aptitude ?10:28
bypaye10:28
KeeguonHey, I'm trying to compile fleox plugin for banshee but I got this "No package 'tao-opengl' found" so I suppose I have to do something with the Tao framework but what?10:29
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tyme-BHSPitMonkey:  well yes, the default network manager app that ships with Ubuntu isn't advanced enough for that10:29
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jerpbyp, yes, and the terminal display appears and that is where I get the warning10:29
byphmm, not sure10:29
BHSPitMonkeymwe, kubuntu is just a packaged distribution... to say that just having KDE is having Kubuntu, it to say that running GNOME means you're using Ubuntu10:29
byperror message =10:30
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jasinThere are lots of ways to secure wifi, connect over a vpn, use mac filtering, set your network to run over a subnet not directly off the main network, use authentication,etc..10:30
tyme-BHSPitMonkey:  but all you have to do is get the internet up and running, add and remove packages you want or dont need (network manager) and its fixed. I can see this might be a problem for linux newbies but with a little brain power and research it wouldn't take that long to figure out10:30
mweBHSPitMonkey: difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is that ubuntu installs ubuntu-desktop whereas kubuntu installs kubuntu-desktop instead10:31
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, network-manager is an official gnome component, it has a very nice interface, excellent little "bars" icon on the notification area... it really needs to just come with ubuntu10:31
jerpI ran adept just now and  get,10:31
BHSPitMonkeymwe, right, after a base system10:31
jerpYou will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.10:31
mweBHSPitMonkey: which they both install10:31
mweBHSPitMonkey: identically10:31
jerpthe application opens though10:31
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BHSPitMonkeymwe, kubuntu-desktop includes KDE, tailored the special ubuntu way, with all the things that make ubuntu ubuntu10:32
mweBHSPitMonkey: ubuntu-base is the same10:32
BHSPitMonkeyright10:32
jasinyou can mask yoru ip address with a proxy, tinyproxy works great for doing that in ubuntu10:32
scribeboxhello10:32
scribeboxanyone wanna help me fix my fstab?10:32
jasinthere are lots of things you can do to secure wifi10:32
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, the point is, on both my systems, and on my friends whose I set up, I wasn't able to use wireless out of the box. It required me to collect network-manager and its dependencies on a disk, or plug the computer into an ethernet router.10:33
mweBHSPitMonkey: AFAIK installing kubuntu-desktop and removing ubuntu-desktop from a standard ubuntu install gives you exactly the same as if you installed kubuntu in the first place10:33
bypjerp: hmm,  not sure - check ps and look for anything that might be using the database10:33
byp:/10:33
jerpps ?10:33
bypps -A10:33
jerpok10:33
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, and WiFi is frankly an area in which Ubuntu just falls short to XP, and it doesn't have to.10:33
tyme-BHSPitMonkey:  why? what was so difficult? If you can use windows network manager to add an AP you could easily do so in Ubuntu10:33
bypjerp: ou might want to pipe it through less...10:34
tyme-Linux and Windows = Apples and Oranges10:34
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jasinthe kubuntu desktop is kde its just configured and has icons that dress it up, make it look a bit prettier.10:34
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, the equivalent to using windows' AP connection tools is network-manager.10:34
tyme-of course it's going to be tougher in Linux, but Ubuntu does a great job of giving you all the tools you need right out of the box10:34
jerpbyp, I don't know what that means   (I carry newb credentials)10:34
bypAre you saying apples are better than oranges???10:34
hastesavermwe, BTW, installing the package kde installs even more "krap" than kubuntu-desktop10:34
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byp:P10:34
jasinwifi works great in ubuntu if you have the right card.10:35
bypjerp: ps -A | less10:35
jerpahh okie doke10:35
jasinmy wifi nic is actually supported directly in the kernel its self.10:35
mwehastesaver: it does? Personally I installed kdebase then added stuff ;)10:35
pitdickerCan someone help me installing fglrx 8.24.8 on Ubuntu Edgy?10:35
tyme-ipw2200 jasin?10:35
bypjerp: then look for anything that might be using the so-called software database like synaptic, apt-get, aptitude, dpkg, whatever else10:35
BHSPitMonkeyin XP, you click on an icon, and a list of APs comes up. It supports various encryption types. In fresh Ubuntu, you have to figure out the networking properties' version of a wireless configuration tool, figure out some confusing stuff, and pray you're WEP or unprotected.10:35
jasinyep, ipw 2200 bg10:35
cyphaseHas anyone gotten a GRUB error saying "Error 15: File not found" after installing Feisty?10:35
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jerpok10:35
hastesavercyphase, ask in #ubuntu+110:35
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tyme-same jasin10:36
cyphasehastesaver: i have, but no one's answered. i thought since there are more people here..10:36
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bypi fell back to dapper drake because it was more stable for me10:36
jasinI swaped mine out I didn't feel like ussing ndiswraper10:36
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, Ubuntu's focus is making something that anyone can use, at least as intuitively as one could use Windows.10:36
tyme-suse's 10.1 kernel had ipw2200 support, but it dont work :P10:36
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hastesaverjerp, run this: ps aux | egrep "dpkg|apt-get|aptitude|synaptic|adept"10:37
tyme-BHSPitMonkey:  you're right, it doesnt show the AP's near you, you have to actually set ESSID and Hex key.10:37
jasinmaking linux more like windows will only mess up linux10:37
tyme-but if you have no idea how to do that, why would you install linux in the first place?10:37
tyme-jasin:  in some ways, but mostly it's a good thing10:37
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, just because I can accomplish something in ubuntu, doesn't mean I'm satisfied with how it was implemented. Nobody would bother developing an easy-to-use system, since developers are power users anyway.10:37
jasini'm all for ease of use but making it like windows is stupid10:37
byphastesaver: you made it easy :)10:37
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scribeboxi need help editing my fstab file..10:37
scribebox;/10:37
jayhello, does some music player using gtk+ /gnome, looks like this http://farm1.static.flickr.com/144/340536762_8359d1aded_o.jpg10:37
tyme-linux becoming a great desktop os only furthers linux development10:37
jerphastesaver: ok ...... I checked and saw two aptitudes running10:37
jasintype, not its not, its linux not windows10:38
linuxeatswindowshappy new year10:38
bypjerp: sudo killall aptitude10:38
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, I'm more concerned about being able to tell people that they can have success with ubuntu, and be able to keep to my word...10:38
linuxeatswindowsIs there a prog in linux that can make picture cd's with fancy transitions and music10:38
tyme-BHSPitMonkey:  right on. i agree the shipped app could be a LOT better but it works if you're using it at home and already know how to connect computers to your network10:38
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, it's really disheartening to have to go back and watch aspects fall short, after I tell people the superiority of linux10:38
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BHSPitMonkeytyme-, if it's a stationary computer, it's essentially "stranded".10:39
jasinubuntu is very easy to use its just dont seem easy to use because it falls short it supporting most hardware.10:39
jerpdon't know what it means but wth10:39
bypjerp:that sounds redundant...10:39
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tyme-BHSPitMonkey:  it picks up and connects to any AP without encryption10:39
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, and sometimes that's not acceptable10:40
jerpbyp, I guess I'm cleared now :)10:40
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jasinhowever, ibm and dell both have laptops with everything installed and preconfigured .. thats always a good way to go.10:40
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bypjerp:  good luck :)10:40
BHSPitMonkeysaying it's good enough for a group of people doesn't satisfy me :)10:40
jerpon the road to happier cybering,  at least for the mean time.10:40
tyme-BHSPitMonkey:  you can't say that for ANY application10:41
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tyme-I personally do not like Network Manager10:41
jerpthanks byp and hasteserver10:41
tyme-nor use it.10:41
BHSPitMonkeyI really back Ubuntu, but I'm allowed to find problems with how certain things have been implemented10:41
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hyperb0lixhmm10:41
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hyperb0lixthat's better...10:41
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, well, it's very likely you dislike most of the utilities that make up ubuntu.10:41
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tyme-Not true. I love ubuntu10:42
BHSPitMonkeywhy?10:42
tyme-imo it's the best distro that i've ever installed.10:42
linuxeatswindowsyea me too10:42
linuxeatswindowsand I installed them all10:42
tyme-I've only had it for 3-4 hours now and i feel that way.10:42
BHSPitMonkeylol10:42
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BHSPitMonkeyimpressive, linuxeatswindows10:42
hyperb0lixindeed...10:43
tyme-thats a lot of distros linuxeatswindows10:43
BHSPitMonkeyafter the first few thousand distros, I'd personally get frustrated and give up10:43
hyperb0lixfor me, the first hundred10:43
hyperb0lix:/10:43
jasinI was reading a post on the ubuntuforums the  other of a giy who uninstalled ubuntu and installed freebsd because it didn't support his hardware well, it was bugy.10:43
BHSPitMonkeyI tried all the ones I heard about most often10:43
tyme-BHSPitMonkey:  same.10:43
linuxeatswindowsall the major ones, I started with one I got out of linux format10:43
jasinBHsp, lol10:43
sc4ttrbraini want to split HD partititon(resize and create new one),should i do it with gparted or within windows?which one is better?10:43
tyme-Mandrake for almost a few months, went back to windows10:43
tyme-then decided windows blows and im never going back10:44
tyme-so then Suse->debian->Suse10:44
BHSPitMonkeyubuntu is the first distro that I was able to make my primary (and near-exclusive) OS10:44
jasinsc4ttrbrain, do it with gparted10:44
tyme-now Ubuntu10:44
tyme-and i <3 Ubuntu :P10:44
hyperb0lixtyme-: you sound just like me :P10:44
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tyme-i went back to windows for the gaming.10:44
tyme-only reason.10:44
linuxeatswindowsso I've tried Debian, Slackware, Redhat/Fedora, Mandrake, College linux, Onebase, Knoppix, Ubuntu, Gentoo, SuSe, VidaLinux, and lots more10:44
sc4ttrbrainjasin: then when i reboot to windows,will it recognize the new partition?10:44
BHSPitMonkeyI went Suse->Bunch of Random Mainstream Distros->Mandriva (all with Windows primarily), and then Ubuntu made the pushover.10:45
hastesaversc4ttrbrain, if you want to resize the Windows partition, and you can do it on Windows, do it there... at least you won't blame Ubuntu if it fails :-)10:45
jasinsc4ttrbrain, get the gparted linux livecd, download the iso and burn it to a cd, boot with that and set up your partitions from there.10:45
tyme-Oh i had redhat for a couple days. wasnt that great.10:45
jasinsc4ttrbrain, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php10:45
BHSPitMonkeytyme-, same situation actually10:45
tyme-I'm a die hard Ubuntu fan now though.10:45
BHSPitMonkeyI used to have like 6 OS partitions that I would rotate out various distros on10:45
BHSPitMonkeysame.10:45
tyme-it's insanely faster than Suse10:45
BHSPitMonkeysame.10:45
tyme-i have NO idea why10:45
tyme-but it is.10:45
BHSPitMonkeylol10:45
jasinsc4ttrbrain, after their set up with that restart the system and boot into the ubuntu installer with your ubuntu cd10:46
sc4ttrbrainjasin: i have gparted installed, why should i use live cd? is there any other differeneces?10:46
linuxeatswindowsfor me setting up Ubuntu with Automatix makes my life easy... The only thing I can say for Ubuntu is it would be nice if it came with a firewall installed by default like on Fedora10:46
BHSPitMonkeyuhh, *Kough Kough* ;)10:46
tyme-After using YaST last night i got fed up and downloaded Ubuntu10:46
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tyme-and boy im glad i used YaST and it's buggyness10:46
linuxeatswindowsYast4debian is defunct which sucks10:46
tyme-or else i wouldnt have switched10:46
BHSPitMonkeyYaST is NaSTy10:46
jasinsc4ttrbrain, because you can setup the partitions outside of the ubuntu install cd10:46
sc4ttrbrainjasin: i ve running ubntu :D10:46
tyme-it truely is.10:46
tyme-HORRIBLE10:46
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BHSPitMonkeyindeed10:46
jasinsc4ttrbrain, if you are runing ubuntu why do you need to partition?10:46
BHSPitMonkeynot a good first impression of linux, using Suse.10:47
tyme-Mandrake (back when it was mandrake) was my first impression10:47
tyme-and it impressed me :P10:47
NoPulpyast was ok .. but very slow and crappy lol10:47
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hyperb0lixNoPulp: Thus, not ok?10:47
tyme-I've only recently came back to Linux (3 months ago) and it's surprising how far it's come.10:47
BHSPitMonkeyI'm going to be the first to say that this conversation is grossly off-topic :P10:47
sc4ttrbrainjasin: i ve 3 parttion windows,data,ubuntu, i want to split data into data and mac,because i will install mac on it10:47
tyme-Has been for awhile.10:47
NoPulpi know thats why the "lol"10:47
hastesaverI first started with a Knoppix LiveCD, used Red Hat 9 for a few days, then went to Mandriva, and been only using Ubuntu since Hoary.10:48
tyme-this is a support channel, not a discussion channel :P10:48
hyperb0lix:P10:48
Rookie_!offtopic10:48
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:48
NoPulpmy first linux was red hat 7.210:48
BHSPitMonkeysc4ttrbrain, how do you intend on installing mac10:48
tyme-but theres just so many people here contributing to convos :P10:48
tyme-btw, happy new years everyone10:48
sc4ttrbrainBHSPitMonkey: using .img and dd10:48
linuxeatswindowsanyone know of a prog to make picture cd's in ubuntu with music and transitions?10:48
hyperb0lixaye10:48
BHSPitMonkeyhuh?10:48
tyme-i've sobered up since coming on IRC apparently :P10:48
tyme-i actually hit my head on my door coming into my room.10:49
BHSPitMonkeysc4ttrbrain, are you on a PPC system or an intel/amd?10:49
linuxeatswindowslol10:49
jasinsc4ttrbrain, I never set up my partitions within linux, I like control over how their set up, I like to low level format, check for errors, setup separate partitions not outside of linux in case i run into error,etc.., but thats me.10:49
sc4ttrbrainBHSPitMonkey; im on pc10:49
BHSPitMonkeysc4ttrbrain, and you're dd'ing from an Intel mac?10:49
hyperb0lixjasin:  i like to run shred before partitioning/formatting10:49
jasinsc4ttrbrain, I never set up my partitions within linux, I like control over how their set up, I like to low level format, check for errors, setup separate partitions outside of linux in case i run into error,etc.., but thats me.10:49
tyme-time for bed, night everyone.10:49
sc4ttrbrainBHSPitMonkey: no10:49
jasinhyper, no need if the drive is low level formated10:50
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linuxeatswindowsnight tyme-10:50
hyperb0lixjasin: just personal preference - I'm paranoid :P10:50
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jasinhyperb0 hehe10:50
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jasinhyper, i understand :)10:50
BHSPitMonkeysc4ttrbrain, I think you should instead be using PearPC, either within Ubuntu or Windows. Or both, and keep the disk image and config in the data partition.10:51
hyperb0lixyup10:51
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sc4ttrbrainBHSPitMonkey: no,i want to boot it natively10:51
sc4ttrbrainjust need to split partition safely,which i dont know how10:51
BHSPitMonkeysc4ttrbrain, am I really the first to point out that you can't do that?10:52
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sc4ttrbrainBHSPitMonkey: cant do what? install mac? havent u heard macosx?10:52
BHSPitMonkeylol, indeed I have.10:53
jasinif you are going to do a secure wipe you should make no less then 30 passes with a dod complient wipe.10:53
BHSPitMonkeyit's been out for a few years now.10:53
jasinhehe10:53
bypjasin:  xd yeah10:53
sc4ttrbrainBHSPitMonkey: yup,i mean,as long as u have sse2 or 3 u can install mac on it right?10:53
bypjasin: but the failsafe method is incineration, of course10:54
BHSPitMonkeysc4ttrbrain, and it runs on PowerPC processors.    There's also osx-x86, which is what runs on the "new" Intel-based macs, but you can't use that on a normal PC.  At least, not without using an illegal, hacked version10:54
jasinthat in combination with a low level format, and not just a zero fil low level format, will destroy virtually any data left10:54
bypindeed10:54
bypi've been trying out dd for my zero-filling, lately10:55
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BHSPitMonkeyI hear it's better to use random bits than zeros.10:55
sc4ttrbrainBHSPitMonkey: dont worry,even though im using it ,i will only use it to know whether its worth to buy ;)10:55
bypBHSPitMonkey: that's what I use shred for10:55
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jasinBHsp, that is true10:56
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BHSPitMonkeysc4ttrbrain, and as far as "safely" splitting that partition, 1) Backup, 2) Delete, 3) Make Two, 4) Restore Backup10:56
bypyou could always also do dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/foo10:56
BHSPitMonkeyheh10:56
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jasinBHsp, over writing again and again with random bits and bytes is the best way to destroy data.10:56
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bypjasin: nah10:57
bypjasin: just nuke the drive10:57
bypjasin: with a nuke10:57
BHSPitMonkeyput the drive in a microwave10:57
jasinbyp, i wanna keep the drive lol10:57
bypjasin: :P10:57
BHSPitMonkeythen crush it into a powder and distribute it into several differently-located meals10:57
sc4ttrbrainBHSPitMonkey: cant i just use gparted > 1.unmount that part. 2.resize 3.create new ?10:57
jasinbyp, I dont use thermite unless the drive is total dead10:57
jasinlol10:57
seshomaruis there a gnome application that allows me to connect rempotly to other boxes graphically?10:57
byplol10:57
bypVNC10:58
BHSPitMonkeysc4ttrbrain, resizing a partition is ALWAYS dangerous.10:58
bypnot GNOME though10:58
KenSentMe!vnc > seshomaru10:58
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seshomaruKenSentMe, do i need to apt-get it?10:58
KenSentMeHey, where is ubotu?10:58
sc4ttrbrainBHSPitMonkey: how dangerous? :D10:58
BHSPitMonkeysc4ttrbrain, never do a resize unless you're prepared to deal with the possible consequences. (Losing it all.)10:58
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BHSPitMonkeysc4ttrbrain, is it absolutely impossible to backup this data10:59
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Madpilotubotu, ping10:59
ubotu64 bytes from ubotu (10.13.37.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.33 ms10:59
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seshomaruKenSentMe, does the remote machine need to have VNC as well?11:00
bypseshomaru: server, it does11:00
KenSentMeseshomaru: on the machine you want to connect to, go to System - Preferences - Remote Desktop and do the right settings. Then use Applications - Internet - Terminal server client to connect11:00
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sc4ttrbrainBHSPitMonkey: so,if i was to resize it from windows then it safe?since it contains windows only data....will this change the number of root partition /dev/hdXX11:00
sc4ttrbrain?11:00
jasinyou need 7 partition, root / , /usr, /var, /home, swap, /boot, /tmp make home and usr the bigest, boot at least 100 megabytes and swap 2.5 x the total amount of memory installed.11:00
KenSentMeMadpilot: shouldn't ubotu react on !bla things?11:00
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jasinyou need 7 partition, root / , /usr, /var, /home, swap, /boot, /tmp make home and usr the bigest, boot at least 100 megabytes and swap 2.5 x the total amount of memory installed.11:01
klausHallo - Ein schnes neues Jahr ! Wie wird  unter edgy die floppy automatisch eingebunden? habe probs mit autofs! :(11:01
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BHSPitMonkeysc4ttrbrain, windows won't resize partitions.11:01
KenSentMe!de11:01
jasinYou can make 4 primary partitions and the rest have to be logical11:01
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:01
MadpilotKenSentMe, it does - but it stopped sending a "sent <foo> to <user>" PM to you when you did !foo > bar11:01
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seshomaruKenSentMe, the other box is in another country ,can do the settings thru command line?11:01
sc4ttrbrainBHSPitMonkey: it can,using partition magic11:01
BHSPitMonkeysc4ttrbrain, is it ntfs?11:01
KenSentMeMadpilot: what is the best syntacs now then?11:01
sc4ttrbrainBHSPitMonkey: fat3211:01
BHSPitMonkeysc4ttrbrain, windows != partition magic11:01
sc4ttrbrain:p11:02
BHSPitMonkeywindows is one piece of software, pm is another11:02
Madpilotubotu, ubotu | KenSentMe11:02
ubotuKenSentMe: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:02
klausHello, A happy new year !! How is the floppy automounted unter edgy? I have probs with that ... :(11:02
hyperb0lixApples != Oranges11:02
pitdickerCan someone help me installing fglrx 8.24.8 on Edgy?11:02
BHSPitMonkeyone depends on the other11:02
BHSPitMonkeynot in hyperb0lix's case, but yeah11:02
klaus(i tried autofs, but wont work for floppy)11:02
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KenSentMeubotu, thanks | Madpilot11:02
ubotuMadpilot: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)11:02
hyperb0lixwhat? :P11:02
hyperb0lixapples depend on oranges.....11:02
hyperb0lix.11:02
KenSentMe:)11:02
MadpilotKenSentMe, the bar | is fairly new, and useful - lots of new people have trouble figuring out PMs11:02
BHSPitMonkeysc4ttrbrain, personally, I've never used partition magic.11:02
BHSPitMonkeyI can't say how safely it works.11:03
hyperb0lixsc4ttrbrain: fdisk ftw11:03
BHSPitMonkeylol11:03
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jasinI have partition magic on a boot disk, runs frm dos, it works fine for creating linux paritition, except for it limiting you to 2 gig swap partitions.11:03
KenSentMeMadpilot: ok11:03
BHSPitMonkeyyes, fdisk will take special care to make sure you don't lose any data...11:03
BHSPitMonkey>.>11:03
BHSPitMonkey<.<11:03
mensur!TAO11:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about TAO - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:03
BHSPitMonkeyjasin, why would you ever need anything bigger????11:03
klausis autofs the regular way under edgy for automounting floppy-discs ?11:03
BHSPitMonkey1GB is as big as I've ever made them11:03
sc4ttrbrainthanks11:04
BHSPitMonkeyand that's excessive11:04
hyperb0lixI tried a 4.5 gig swap partition for fun11:04
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hyperb0lixHow's that for excessive?11:04
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mensur!tao-opengl11:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tao-opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:04
jasinBHsp, swap shoudl be 2 times total memory installed, thats a standard rule of thumb.11:04
hyperb0lixjasin: not quite11:04
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BHSPitMonkeyjasin, that's not applicable anymore.11:04
KenSentMeseshomaru: i don't know that. Probably there is a way11:04
mensurdoes anyone know where to get that package "tao-opengl"???11:04
hyperb0lixjasin: I was reading the OpenBSD installation guide, and that's not true11:04
jasinif you want to swap all your memory or half of when you run out yes it does.11:05
hyperb0lixjasin: although I seem to have broken it with a 4.5 gig swap partition11:05
BHSPitMonkeyjasin, a PC with 2GB of RAM, for example, doesn't really need a swap partition. (even though ubuntu requires one, I hear)11:05
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KenSentMeseshomaru: maybe check here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC11:05
jasinBHsp, depends on what one is doing with that system.11:05
hyperb0lixI should make a 70GB swap... then 5GB /......11:06
BHSPitMonkeyjasin, if you're doing tasks which require over 2GB of ram, in that case, swap isn't going to cover it.11:06
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hyperb0lixubuntu won't fit, eh?11:06
seshomaruKenSentMe, thanx11:06
jasinI have 2 gigs and the system nevrr usses the swap, btu i dont really do very intensive things.11:06
BHSPitMonkeyif hard drive swap was preferable, we wouldn't have RAM11:06
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BHSPitMonkeyswap wouldn't be a tolerable replacement for ram if a program demanded more than what was provided11:07
hyperb0lixMore RAM11:07
jasinBHSp, thats why linux only runs resources out of ram when their used.11:07
jasinBhsp, you is right though, its alwaus bets to use ram rather then swap.11:08
jasinbest*11:08
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MadpilotBHSPitMonkey, unless Edgy's installer has changed things, you can still order Ubuntu to install w/o swap11:08
hyperb0lixAnd if you have plenty of RAM, you don't need an overly large swap partition11:08
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BHSPitMonkeyMadpilot, just basing on what I heard a few minutes ago from someone.11:09
BHSPitMonkeyMadpilot, I've never tried to omit one11:09
hyperb0lixBetter safe than sorry11:09
MadpilotBHSPitMonkey, when I had to reinstall Dapper I did not set up a swap partition, the installer complained once, then worked fine.11:09
MadpilotI've got 1Gb of RAM, don't need swap11:09
BHSPitMonkeyindeed11:10
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JosefKswap is useful for when app's request large blocks of RAM, most of which they aren't going to use yet11:11
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jasinIf your system truly does not use the swap ever and never will you can disabled it, easy enough to do in nough to do in /etc/fstab11:12
jasinenough*11:12
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BHSPitMonkeyis there any benefit to disabling a swap partition you already have11:12
jasinjosefk, yes11:12
BHSPitMonkeyI mean, it's already there... there would have to be a good reason for me to go through the trouble of commenting a line in fstab ;)11:13
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pitdickerCan someone help me installing fglrx 8.24.8 on Edgy?11:14
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jasinBHsp, I've heard it speeds up the system, not sure how it would though.11:14
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tmichaelhej jestem poczatkujacym uzytkownikiem linuxa ubuntu wie ktos jak zainstalowac tutaj kadu?11:14
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Madpilot!pl11:15
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl11:15
jasinuse sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx that will install the latest11:15
shemalehi guys im getting a problem while installing ubuntu  on my tablet at the disk partition step, I choose the first option to resize automaticly the partition, but when I click foward, nothing happens...11:15
pitdickerI need an older version of fglrx becouse my DVI doen't work11:16
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pitdickerIt seems 8.24.8 works11:16
tonyyarussocompengi: I'm not sure I understand what you mean.11:16
shemalewell normally when I let the ubuntu setup resize11:17
compengitonyyarusso, i want to send files using terminal from my linux pc to my shell, i had used scp for the backwards process. can it be done the other way using scp?11:17
shemaleautomatic resize setup do his work, theres no problem, and it goes to step 6 of 6 , but now im stuck at step 5...11:17
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tonyyarussocompengi: sure, if you have the user and IP of the other machine, and it has an ssh server installed11:18
tripppyanyone useing mvTV python script?11:18
shemaleis it possible that my hp tablet has blocked any configuration change to the partitions11:18
pitdickerbuilding it with the following commant fails:11:18
pitdickersudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel11:18
jasinI have no idea where you can get 8.24.8, sorry.11:19
jasinshemale, do the entire erase option.11:19
compengitonyyarusso, i used scp like this. scp user@shell.machine.here:/folder/here /to/my/directory/11:19
shemaleyah thats what im thinking but the thing is11:20
shemaleI dont want to lose the windows partition11:20
jasinshemale, that wont set up all the separate partitions you need but it will set up the minimal, enough ti get you up and runing.11:20
compengitonyyarusso, and that was copying process11:20
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shemalewith the all the shit I wanna keep11:20
jasinshemale, no, you will erase the entire disk11:20
compengitonyyarusso, and now i want to copy from my pc to the shell machine11:21
tonyyarussocompengi: So the other way would be scp /to/my/directory/ user@shell.machine.here:/folder/here/11:21
shemalebut what about the windows partition...11:21
shemaleits on the disk11:21
shemaleso you are saying theres no choice ?11:21
compengitonyyarusso, okay let me try it then11:21
jasinshemale, either backup or use the gparted linux live cd, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php11:21
jasinshemale, anyways, you shoudll always backup regardless/11:22
shemaleyah11:23
jasinshemale, anyways, you should always backup regardless.11:23
shemalebut I think11:23
shemaleill partition my disk11:23
pitdickerjasin, have you experiance with compiling it?11:23
shemalein 2 partitions11:23
shemalein windows11:23
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jasinpitdicker, compiling what?11:23
shemaleso that will fix the problem11:23
shemaleim pretty sure11:23
pitdickerfglrx from ati.com11:23
jasinshemale, linux should be first and do not install grub to the mbr install it to the boot sec.11:24
jasinpitdicker, no need to there is a binary on the site11:24
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seshomarushemale, r u trying to resize a windows partition?11:25
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shemalewell the thing is11:25
jasinThere is a .run on the site11:25
compengitonyyarusso, thanks alot, it worked :D11:25
spastihi11:25
shemaleto make it clear11:25
shemalemy hp tc 4400 tablet is configured on one c: 70 Gbs and one HP SPECIAL BACK UP D :  10 GBS11:26
jasinHere's instructions on how to install the ati driver: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.26.18-inst.html11:26
shemalenow I want to install ubuntu with a dual boot11:26
shemalebut when I get to the partition setup windows in ubuntu install11:27
shemalewhen I choose Resize partition #1 and use feed space nothing happen...11:27
shemalewhen I click on Forward...11:27
jasinahhh you have to comitt the changes11:27
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jasinseshomar, tell her how to apply/comitt the changes11:28
jasinlol11:28
junewhere might i get the falcon repository builder in a form that i can install it on a webserver that i don't have administrative rights on?11:28
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pitdickerI'll give it a trie, I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b11:28
shemaleand when I choose the manual edit partition table and I click foward nothing happens also...11:28
junei COULD host on my personal computer but i've got like 4kbps upstream so that would be worthless11:29
shemaleall this from 6.06 live CD11:29
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shemalemaybe someone could give me remote assistance on that one11:29
seshomarushemale, is that the graphic interface or the command line ?11:30
jasinshemale, use that live cd I gave you a link too, you can setup the partitions outside of linux with it .. it might make things easier for you.11:30
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shemalegraphic interface11:31
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samuelsup all11:31
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jasinshemal, just resize the partition and after its resized setup two partitions, a root partition / and a swap .. make them primary.11:31
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jasinshemale, set them up in the free space left over after its resized11:31
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shemaleyah okey but the thing is I have to do it with the terminal caus theres a fuck with the graphical11:31
jasinshemale, no, set up the partitions with the live cd I gave you a link to11:32
mwewhich ghostscript is recommended, gs-gpl, gs-esp or gs-afpl?11:32
samuelwhere does apt store its gpg keys?11:32
shemaleall right11:32
jasinshemale, also, you may want to download a now iso for ubuntu, burn a new copy, sounds like yours is messed up.11:32
shemalewell maybe11:33
samuelapt is listing EVERY package as NOT AUTHENTICATED, how can i fix this?11:33
shemalecaus normally11:33
shemaleI mean11:33
phr34ckGood morning everyone11:33
seshomarushemale, i would use the alternate CD to install11:33
shemaleIm supposed to at least be able to choose the manual edit partition table option...11:33
seshomarushemale, and defrag windows before resizing it11:33
shemalemaybe theres a scratch on the dvd11:34
shemaleits a cheap princo :P11:34
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gaten!sound11:35
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin11:35
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ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse11:35
shemalethanx people !!!11:35
shemalevery appreciated11:35
jasinshemale, yes, just toss the disk and burn a new one.11:36
jasinshemale, you is welcomed :)11:36
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cybercodshemale, you could also use partition magic to resize first from windoze and click "install to largest free space"11:36
shemaleyah but the iso is on my windows shittt ?%$%%/$% so I have to log out from Linux :(11:36
compengitonyyarusso, could tell me please how to delete a dir from the ssh?11:36
shemaleyahh11:36
shemalethats what I can do11:37
cybercodyou can access windows partition from live disk11:37
shemalebut I can also do as Jasin told me11:37
tonyyarussocompengi: 'rmdir' is the command11:37
shemalewith gparted..11:37
cybercodyou just have to mount it... in Disks11:37
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shinobi3hi11:37
compengitonyyarusso, it says directory not empty11:37
cybercodits read only, but you may be able to burn the ISO.... i dunno if live disk has burner ready to go11:38
shemalewhat is better gparted or partition magic ?11:38
cybercodmay also depend on how much ram you have for the ramdrive11:38
cybercodPart Magic is a little more polished11:38
shinobi3is there a way to reformat my flash drive? like totally redo that parition table? i think i screwed it up with 'dd'11:38
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cybercodbut each has their limitations11:38
tonyyarussocompengi: there's an option in the man page if you want to delete a non-empty directory11:38
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shemaleI have 1.5 Gbs ;)11:39
cybercodyou may have to use synaptic to install burning into live disk session11:39
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cybercodnot sure on that point...11:40
spastiis livecd very fun?11:40
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cybercodlive cd is about the same as the freshly installed desktop, but runs slower11:41
cybercodshemale, check IM11:41
jasinI always have a backup computer to burn iso's from when installing linux hehe11:42
shinobi3exit11:42
shinobi3quit11:42
cybercodi keep a pristine DVD of all my OS ISO's11:42
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cybercodshemale, still there?11:43
phr34ckwhat does LTS mean?11:43
cybercodLong term support11:43
phr34ckLike Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?11:43
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phr34ckcybercod, do you know why they say that?11:43
cybercodI think its like 3 years of dedicated support11:43
phr34ckI mean, what's the idea?11:43
cybercodmaybe 511:43
phr34ckcybercod: thanks.11:43
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jasinI got mom's computer, the computers in the cne lab, the computers in the cis lab, that old junky pIII in the closet, and my desktop hehe11:43
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cybercodthats how long they'll support it in the forums and such11:44
shinobi411:44
koyo001hello11:44
shinobi411:44
koyo001i have a problem11:44
cybercod?11:44
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shemalecybercod11:44
shemaleim here11:44
shemaleI was on my tablet11:44
koyo001Wireless11:44
koyo001**For Edgy Follow this how to: (use these drivers) Click Here **11:44
koyo001(Dell 1390 or Broadcom 4311 only, if you have the Intel card it should work out of the box.)11:44
koyo001**For Dapper:**11:44
koyo0011. choose a location in your home folder for all downloads, such as wireless drivers, etc.11:44
koyo0012. download latest ndiswrapper: ndiswrapper 1.2311:44
koyo0013. place downloaded file somewhere in a folder in your home folder and using terminal CD into that folder11:44
koyo0014. tar xvzf ndiswrapper-1.23.tar.gz11:45
koyo0015. cd ndiswrapper-1.2311:45
koyo0016. sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist11:45
shemaleohhh by the way11:45
koyo0017. blacklist bcm43xx at the end of the file11:45
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Madpilotkoyo001, I'll unmute you in a minute11:45
shemalethe link for the script to automatcly mount the windows partitions11:45
Madpilotnext time, use a pastebin!11:45
shemaleits broken...11:45
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cybercodyou wanna know how to mount them manually for the live session?11:45
shemaleubuntu-nl.org/files/diskmounter11:45
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cybercodthey'll be mounted auto after the install11:46
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shemaleI just wanna know if theres a script out there that ll do it11:46
cybercodits not hard... you don't need a script11:46
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shemalecaus Im on a Desktop right now and the install didnt mount them automatcly11:46
shemaleim using 6.0611:47
cybercodyou need to edit fstab then11:47
koyo001helo11:47
shemaleI have the link from ubuntu to do it manually11:47
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koyo001i need help11:47
koyo001if someone could give me a hand11:47
cybercodkoyo... i'm familiar with that... but wait a moment11:47
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koyo001ok11:48
koyo001waiting11:48
cybercodshemale... are you just trying to mount so you can burn a new ISO?11:48
shemaleno11:48
shemaleI can burn a new iso11:49
shemalethats not a problem11:49
shemaleI just can restart the comp11:49
jasinshemale, you need a windows boot disk if you want to fix windows temporarly.11:49
shemale and boot in windows ;)11:49
cybercodso you have an install that is not mounting them automatically11:49
cybercodoh..11:49
cybercodno grub menu?11:49
cybercodor is it straight to windows11:49
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jasinshemale, you will have to rebuild the mbr for the time being if you want to boot back into windows11:49
shemaleoh yah ?11:49
shemalecaus the installation is not complete11:50
aeonhello all, Happy New Year11:50
shemaleeven if im only in live cd right now...?11:50
jasinshemale, yes because you instaleld grub but grub is not confiqured11:50
jasinshemale, so it dont know what to boot11:50
AidanLI am having to reinstall Ubuntu after a problem with the install last night. However after I have deleted the partition it is still trying to load Ubuntu which is preventing me from getting onto windows. How do I go about solving this?11:50
aeoncould anyone please answer 1 question11:50
shemaleanyway theres no problem11:50
shemalecaus I have two comps11:50
cybercodyes... re-installing the MBR for windows will take a Windows Install disk11:51
shemalemy desktop is already installed with dual boot ubuntu and windows11:51
elkbuntu!ask11:51
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:51
jasinaidan, you need to add windows to  grub11:51
AidanLHow do I go about doing that?11:51
shemaleand now all the questions I asked you were for my tablet PC11:51
aeonwhen i boot ubuntu 6.10 live cd it shows me video mode not supported11:51
shemaleso even if I run into a problem11:51
aeonon screen11:51
jasinshemale, press esc when grub comes up, if windows is not listed then you will have to rebuild the mbr.11:51
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cybercodso when you turn it on, what do you get? nothing? error 17?11:51
shemaleokey ill try11:52
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shemalebut the thing is11:52
shemaleI can always partition manually my windows partitions with the console11:52
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shemaleso I dont need to boot windows to do it...11:52
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koyo001i need to configure my wireless11:53
aeoncould anyone please help me?11:53
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koyo001followed instruccions but failes11:53
cybercodkoyo... you've got the broadcom right?11:53
koyo001failed11:53
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koyo001i have a dell inspiron 640011:53
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koyo001its  a common problem11:53
ski-worklapi have an averatec 7100 series11:53
ski-worklapmy problem is worse, i assure you11:54
cybercodmakes no difference who made the PC... its broadcom wireless11:54
cybercodright?11:54
koyo001ok11:54
burrylcan beryl have a different desktop on each of its four faces of the cube? right now for my beryl, all faces of the cube display the same desktop11:54
koyo001then broadcom it is11:54
koyo001it sucks11:54
AidanLHow do I add windows to the grub?11:54
koyo001i want atheros11:54
cybercodbuilt in? or card?11:54
koyo001built in11:54
cybercodAidanL  sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.lst11:55
aeonwhy do i get Video mode not supported on screen just abouts when ubuntu starts, my gfx card is Nivida xfx geforce 6600 gt 256mb11:55
cybercodmay be grub.list  not sure11:55
koyo001i have instruccions that tell me exactly how to do it11:55
AidanLI see but there is an error when the comptuer is booting up...11:55
AidanLa Grub error.11:55
cybercodthere will be an example for windows booting... the name doesn't matter thats just the label for the option. ... something to do with chainloader11:55
cybercodyou'll see it11:56
AndrewGhi, I'm needing help manually installing grub, how do we do it?11:56
cybercodkoyo... is that a laptop internal card?11:56
koyo001yep11:56
cybercodok... wait lemme research where i found the answer before when i was going through that11:56
AidanLIf I write over the partition which has Ubuntu on, will that then stop the problem with the Grub error?11:57
cybercodAndrewG ... get the UltimateBootCD11:57
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cybercodyou can find torrents of the ISO pretty easily11:57
AndrewGnot that easy :S11:57
AndrewGwe've only got an [k] ubuntu cd to work with11:58
AndrewGcan it be installed off there?11:58
cybercodno... that won't Aidan.. it will probably make it worse11:58
AndrewGtalking to a guy at the moment on the phone, he's got no internet, just ubuntu11:58
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cybercodHmmm... there is an install grub command, but I forget what it is... i'll be gone a few moments for research11:59
AndrewGthanks :)11:59
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koyo001humm11:59
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koyo001would it help11:59
AndrewGgrub-install /dev/hda1 would do it wouldn't it?11:59
jasinThis is what happens folks, if you install linux and the installation fails and you already had windows installd you will not be able to boot windows, grub, the program that loads linux got installed ahead of windows and didnt have time to be setup to load windows.11:59
shemaleyah but what if11:59
koyo001if i sent the post where it gives specificacions on how to do it??12:00
Goshahttp://www.voanews.com/english/2006-12-30-voa24.cfm <--- WTF O_O why is mr bean on that page? ( under the top picture )12:00
shemaleyou didnt even started installing linux the setup fucked up in live cd at the partitionning stage...12:00
AndrewGHEY ITS GOATSE12:00
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shemaleokey guys I have a BIGGGG problem now.... my tablet PC Bios is not responding12:01
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shemaleWTF...12:01
shemaleI cant enter the setup...12:01
cybercodfor re-installing grub via a live CD http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22435112:01
AndrewGthanks heaps :)12:01
shemaleits the first time that this ever happened to me...12:01
jasinThere are two ways to fix that. 1. you can startup the computer with a boot disk and type fdisk /mbr from the dos command line go into windows do what you need to, then reinstall linux or 2. tell grub if you are able to get back into linux to load windows, you will need to edit the grub.lst file to do that, someone already gave instructions on how to do that.12:02
nivekzhi there. i meet a problem. the official repositories that can be choose in synaptic are only "main" and "US". I used to have a local mirror. How can i get it back, i need it12:02
jasinThis is what happens folks, if you install linux and the installation fails and you already had windows installd you will not be able to boot windows, grub, the program that loads linux got installed ahead of windows and didnt have time to be setup to load windows.12:02
jasinThere are two ways to fix that. 1. you can startup the computer with a boot disk and type fdisk /mbr from the dos command line go into windows do what you need to, then reinstall linux or 2. tell grub if you are able to get back into linux to load windows, you will need to edit the grub.lst file to do that, someone already gave instructions on how to do that.12:02
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koyo001still waiting12:03
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shemaleyah but the problem is I cant even go on the Bios...12:04
koyo001for an answer cybercod12:04
arty_nameHello. How can I replace a module which is automatically loaded, even in recovery mode?12:04
cafuego_replace?12:04
cybercodkoyo  try that page http://www.beginningubuntu.com/dapper_tips.html#Using_Ndiswrapper_to_get_wifi_working12:04
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arty_nameyes, replace12:04
cybercodre-install?12:04
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jasinshemale, linux will nto prevent you from going into the bios, no os will.12:05
arty_nameI've compiled up-to-date module from sources and now I want to put it in place of old module.12:05
koyo001yeah thats where i have the problem12:05
koyo001with ndiswrapper12:05
AidanLCybercod: sorry for the late reply. The thing is, is that I deleted the parition that Ubuntu was on because I was having problems with it. Thats why I was getting an Grub Error.12:05
koyo001when i use the terminal12:06
koyo001the terminal tells me that the command doent exist12:06
shemalejasin I know that12:06
AidanLAnd my Live CD wasn't working, despite 2 different downloads of it and matches of the MD5 sum.12:06
jasinshemale, press del or f2 or f12, whatever you is asked to, when you first startup the computer from a cold boot.12:06
cybercodAidan... this on laptop or desktop?12:06
AidanLDesktop12:06
koyo001laptop12:06
shemaleim waiting the cpu to be cold12:06
cybercodremove non-essential hardware Aidan... then try live cd again12:06
shemalecaus as of the last time Ive booted12:06
AidanLKk, I will do soon.12:07
AidanLThanks.12:07
cybercodno prob12:07
jasinshemale, unplug the computer, thnen plug it back in and press the power button, thats a cold boot.12:07
shemalemy tablet the keyboard wasnt ansering... so forget about F10 or F12 or del12:07
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shemaleokey12:07
shemalelets try with the battery alone12:07
cybercodkoyo... perhaps you were not rebooting after blacklisting, and before installing ndiswrapper12:07
jasinshemale, if you is in linux you can type poweroff from the comand line, that will shutdown the computer as well12:08
koyo001no one said to reboot12:08
juneanyone set up a mediawiki before?12:08
cybercodthe page I just gave you does12:08
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samuelsup all12:08
cybercodit is due to that other driver being installed already12:08
cybercodso uninstall ndiswrapper and ndisgtk12:08
shemaleyah but like I said im chatting with you via my desktop comp, but its my tablet pc that is messed up12:08
Goshawhat kind of package does 'ping' send?12:09
cybercodmake sure the blacklist entry is correct12:09
cybercodreboot12:09
samuelwhy does amd64 arch boot in greyscale only? seems to have no colour while the x86 has colour to it?12:09
samuelis that normal?12:09
apotrisup all12:09
cybercodre-install ndis-stuff and load up the windows driver for the wireless via ndis... you do have the windows driver right?12:09
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cybercodany luck yet shemale?12:10
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GastenGosha: I think there is that kind of info on wikipedia.12:10
shemaleohh man cybercod12:10
shemalethis is strange12:10
shemalethe bios startup12:10
shemaleis taking soooo long12:10
computerwhat's the ubuntu equivalent of konversation?12:10
shemaleand like after 45 secs12:10
cybercodi hate those days12:10
shemalemy bios boot up password is appearing12:10
cybercodgaim works for irc12:10
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shemalebut the problem is my keyboard is not answering...12:11
samuelcomputer: gaim12:11
Gastencomputer: gaim. but konversation works to.12:11
shemaleI CANT imput anything...12:11
cybercodand thats on a tablet?12:11
shemaleyah12:11
shemaleHP TC 440012:11
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shemalebut thats weird im pretty sure that even If tried to install linux, it didnt messed up with my keyboard12:12
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samueldoes ubuntu have a "sid" version?12:12
cybercodI'd power down, remove batteries, remove cmos battery (if you can get to it), and let it chill a little bit12:12
shemaleyah12:12
cybercodthen the bios may be in better shape12:12
shemaleyah12:12
shemalesome shit like that12:12
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shemalenow I remember12:12
shemaleon my desktop12:12
shemaleit was complety fucked up12:12
shemaleIve waited like12:12
shemale20 mins12:13
shemaleand by miracle12:13
jasinalways backup yoru data, even if you dont think you need to. If you is not sure what to back up in linux you can backup /  and /home and in windows c:12:13
shemaleall was working again...12:13
DBOshemale, watch the swearing12:13
samueli know feisty fawn now is like "sid", but is there a "constant" sid that you dont need to change your sources lines?12:13
shemalesorry12:13
cybercoddesktop motherboards usually have a jumper for bios reset... but i know nothing about tablets12:13
jasinThats assuming / is the only partition you have12:13
shemaleI dont want to offend anyone12:13
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shemaleyah I dunno either12:13
shemalefor laptops or tablets12:13
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jasinshemale, just relax its not that bad.12:14
computerthx samuel and gasten12:14
cybercodyou could google the model number and find some stuff..12:14
basvgum, I just upgraded from dapper to edgy... now I have 2 problems. Whenver I start a terminal I get 'To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".' ... quite annoying. Any idea how to turn that off12:14
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jasinshemale, where you live?12:14
basvgthe other issue is that every time I login I get the mail-notification popup12:14
shemaleMontreal Canada12:14
cybercodwell gentlemen, for those of you who remember my question earlier about reinstalling all packages...i am doing it now...12:15
samuelbasvg: must be in your .bashrc file or perhaps the system bashrc12:15
basvgsamuel: didn't change my .bashrc .... I'll check /etc/12:15
samuelif you use bash12:15
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basvgof course12:15
samuelthats only 1 problem though12:16
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basvgthe other one is the mail-notificaton popup... if I start gnome-session-properties then I see 'mail-notification --sm-disable' in the startup programs... and I can't seem to remove it12:16
cybercodyou can't disable it?12:17
jasinshemale, okay, you could try contatcing the Montreal Linux Users Group, maybe they can help you physically in person. There website is: mlug.ca12:17
samuelbasvg: preferences -- sessions12:17
samuelshould be in there12:17
samueljust get rid of it12:17
basvgcybercod: right, I've disabled it...lets see if  I still get that nasty popup12:17
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samueli know feisty fawn now is like "sid", but is there a "constant" sid that you dont need to change your sources lines?12:18
basvgsamuel: that s the same as running gnome-session-properties... trying to just disable it brb12:18
samuelyes12:18
jasinshemale, not saying you have to its just a suggestion if you get stuck and run out of options for what to do.12:18
basvgok, that helped.... *shrug* pity that I can't remove it but disabling helps so..12:19
shemaleyah okey thank12:19
cybercodany luck on the cmos battery?12:19
shemaleyou12:19
shemaleIve taken out the main battery12:19
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shemalenow I have to find the cmos battery...12:19
cybercodshould be accessible... a small panel maybe?12:20
samuelok, time for bed... happy new year!12:20
samuel:)12:20
cybercodgood night samuel12:20
shemaleyah happy new year everyone12:20
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jasinshemale, just be very nice dont cuss at them or the computer lol12:20
jasinshemale, happy new year :)12:20
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shemalelol12:21
shemalebut the thing is12:21
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shemaleI was having very nice intentions12:21
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shemaleinstalling ubuntu on my tablet12:21
jame1I'm trying to get a Safecom SWLU-5400 USB wireless adapter to work under ndiswrapper. It will install the driver (as seen in ndisgtk) but it says hardware isn't present - it is. How can I get it to work please?12:21
ddwagnz:/12:21
crypticubuntu sounds like fun12:21
shemaleso many great reviews...12:21
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cybercodyou may be grabbing the wrong file... which file you selecting with ndiswapper?12:22
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jame1cybercod: official INF from manufacturer12:22
cybercodubuntu is a blast12:22
shemalebut I just dont know why my bios is messed up12:22
shemalethats strange...12:22
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cybercodare there more than one file in the driver package?12:22
jame1cybercod: but I did try to compile the ubuntu zd1211 driver... not sure if it's conflicting but then I disabled it via modprobe -r zd121112:22
shemalemy tablet found a strange way to celebrate the new year12:22
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jame1cybercod: yes but only for 9x, ME etc - i chose the provided XP one (only three/four files)12:23
cybercodtried all files individually?12:23
jame1cybercod: including .sys etc?12:23
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jasinshemale hehe12:23
cybercodi had one driver that ndiswrapper took something other than inf12:23
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shemaleyeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh12:23
shemaleit worked12:23
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cybercod;D12:23
shemaleI just reinstalled the main battery in12:23
shemalecybercod12:23
shemaleim gonna marry you12:24
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shemaleLOL12:24
jasinshemale, we gave you the tools, knowledge, and resources to fix your computer .. now all you have to do is fix it :p12:24
cybercodwith a name like shemale... i think I'll have to pass12:24
jame1cybercod: yeah i tried all three files, it only accepts .inf but maybe i should do it via terminal?12:24
shemalelollll12:24
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shemaleno doubt about that12:24
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shemaleI would have do the same12:24
shemalelol12:24
cryptichm i should help in translating some programs to french12:24
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cybercodi doubt it would make a difference jame12:24
kenthomsonHELP: there is a windows partition (FAT32) mounted by default by Ubuntu, and its icon is visible on my desktop, how do i know the mount-point of this partition?12:25
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cybercodits probably mounted in /media12:25
jame1cybercod: hm then do you think it's a conflicting ubuntu driver - the zd1211 one?12:25
cybercodyou can also find out in Disks12:25
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thehotcornetbetter ?12:25
jasinjamel, yes, do it from the terminal, use ndiswrapper -i filenamehere.inf12:25
cybercodyou may need to blacklist like for broadcom... i dunno12:25
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basvgthanks for the help all12:25
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jasinjamel, if the file is on the desktop you will have toi change directory to the desktop cd /home/namehere/Desktop12:26
cybercodif ubuntu has a driver for it that isn't working, you'd need to blacklist it before using ndiswrapper12:26
jame1jasin: that's what i did, it says driver is installed but no hardware present - so  i thought maybe blacklisting or stopping a built in driver (zd1211)12:26
thehotcornetwindows is starting12:26
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kenthomsoncybercod:  I want to navigate the contents of that partition from the terminal, what should i enter "cd /media/hdb1"? or what?12:26
jame1jasin: it's ok, i did "-i /home/jamey/wireless/[nameof-inf-file] "12:27
jasinjamel, ok12:27
kenthomsoncybercod:  ok that works! now what i want to do is create a mount point in my home directory for that "hdb1" partition, how do i do that?12:27
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jasinjamel, you know what i did? I just took the wifi nic out and replaced it with a cheap intel wireless pro 2200, worked like a charm.12:28
cybercodcreate the folder first12:28
Rookie-!webcam12:28
jame1jasin: once I've added to the blacklist, how do i "refresh"?12:28
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras12:28
cybercodthen its in fstab...12:28
kenthomsoncybercod:  i have created a folder called "mkdir ~/windowsPartition12:28
thehotcornetokey Cybercod, and Jasin, thanx again for everything, people like you make me proud of taking part in the linux community ! One of the best things ive done in my life was to swith from windows to linux !12:28
cybercodi think its sudo gedit /etc/fstab12:28
jasinit shoudl be /media/windows12:28
kenthomsoncybercod:  what do i do in fstab?12:28
kenthomsoncybercod:  i simply want to manually mount the windows drive12:29
jasinthehot, welcome :)12:29
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thehotcornetbetter than shemale I guess :P12:29
thehotcornetlater guys and good night, I  need to sleep now12:29
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cybercodyou'll see the current entry for the fat32 partition just change the path there12:29
cybercodif you want to manually mount it you can use Disks12:30
cybercodjust make the folder first12:30
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jame1cybercod: once i've added to the blacklist, how do i update/refresh?12:30
jasinHow to mount/unmount Windows partitions (FAT) manually, and allow all users to read/write http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28FAT.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read.2Fwrite12:30
cybercodif you can't create a folder in /media then hit Alt+F2 then type in gksudo nautilus12:30
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kenthomsoncybercod:  i want to manually mount the partition hdb1 to a folder called ~/windowsPartition12:31
jasinHow to mount Windows partitions (FAT) on boot-up, and allow all users to read/write http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28FAT.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read.2Fwrite12:31
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cybercodKenthomson... get to know the utility called Disks.12:31
kenthomsonjasin:  ok12:31
jasin:)12:31
Feral_KidMy apt-get just died, what is the easiest way to re-install, without apt-get obviously? Every time I try to fire up apt-get, I get Segmentation faultsts... 0%12:31
cybercodcome in there jason with the MondoLinks!12:32
jasinI have to restart the computer, Good Luck everyone. Happy New year!12:32
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kenthomsoncybercod:  i thought there was a simplec command like "mount <partition> <mount point>"12:32
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kenthomsonjasin: same to you :)12:32
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thelinuxguyDo "man mount" in a terminal to know... :-)12:33
jame1cybercod: any help please?12:33
cybercodjame1... you could just reboot... or Ctrl+Alt+Backspace may do it... there's probably a mount command but I don't know it12:33
jame1cybercod: ok cheers12:33
cybercodkenthomson... i'm sure there is... i'm just familiar with the gui... i'm learning the command line little by little12:34
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cybercodi'm not a guru in here or anything12:34
junehey anyone know where i can get the falcon repository builder so that i can install it on a webserver which i don't have root privileges to?  Is it even possible?  I have a folder to which i have read write and execute access though12:34
cybercodjust slightly ahead of the curve12:34
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kenthomsonthelinuxguy:  please explain this to me "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000", i want a explanation for "-t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000" ONLY, and the man page is too cryptic :)12:34
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jame1vfat is the partition type, iocharset means it will parse filenames in UTF-8 format, and someone else can explain umask12:35
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thelinuxguytnx jame1, you beat me to it... :-)12:35
kenthomsonjame1: ok12:35
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kenthomsonwhat is "-t -o"?12:36
kenthomsonand "umask"12:36
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kenthomsonthelinuxguy:  jame1: will this work? "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows vfat"?12:36
jame1"-t vfat" is specifying the type (vfat) and "-o iocharset=utf8,umask=000" is specifying the two parameters, iocharset and umask12:36
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jame1kenthomson: why don12:37
thelinuxguysee http://www.tech-faq.com/umask.shtml for explanation about umask12:37
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jame1kenthomson: sorry, i meant why dont you just use the provided command?12:37
kenthomsonthelinuxguy: jame1:  So "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows -t vfat"12:38
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kenthomsonjame1:  becuase i dont want to input extra parameters like umask whose meaning i dont even know!12:38
thelinuxguyUMASK is a Unix environment variable which automatically sets file permissions on newly created files.12:38
jame1kenthomson: it's ok, it is in the official docs, they are safe parameters - they work fine12:38
jame1plus it mounts read only, so no damage12:38
kenthomsonjame1:  i want read+write12:39
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jame1kenthomson: i believe it's called ntfs-3g12:39
thelinuxguyhold on to the defaults, they just work fine in most cases12:39
kenthomsonjame1:  thelinuxguy: thank you and have a nice day :) BYE12:40
cybercodubuntu can read and write fat3212:40
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thelinuxguyyou're welcome ! happy new year ....12:40
jame1oh sorry, i was thinking ntfs for a second12:40
Boknoyhello how to view proxy squid?so i could test my proxy squid in winxp browser if its workin or not12:41
cybercodisn't it like -rw or -w for writing fat32?12:41
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jame1Boknoy: you have to set the machine running the proxy as the proxy server on the winxp machine12:42
thelinuxguycybercod, it's -rw12:42
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thelinuxguy-ro for read-only...12:42
Boknoyjame1: its different box sir12:42
cybercodlinux makes me feel like such a noob12:42
Boknoyjame1:i just want to test it in windowsxp12:43
thelinuxguyremember you're first days on windows ? ;-)12:43
jame1Boknoy: what browser are you using?12:43
computerbut at least one that's on the right tract12:43
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Boknoyjame1:firefox in windowsxp12:43
cybercodyeah.. i changed an option in the bios and the damn thing never booted up again... but thats not windows... thats just me being stupid12:43
computerdoes firefox not work on cnn.com, if ur using linux?12:43
Boknoyjame1:and IE12:43
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cybercodcomputer. you got flash installed?12:43
computeri  meant does mplayer plugin for firefox not work on cnn.com12:43
computeryes i had flash 9 installed12:44
computerbut it says12:44
computerno windows media player12:44
computerno video for u12:44
computersucks =)12:44
thelinuxguycybercod; select "boot in defaults" in your bios to restore things ?12:44
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kenthomsonone more thing, i want to access System>administration>Disks, but the item "disks" is not listed, moreover from edit menus also there is no entry for Disks under Administration, how do i get that utility?12:44
jame1Boknoy: well in Firefox, open the options dialog and click "Connection Settings". There you can specify a proxy server12:44
cybercodI've had issues myself there... i'd be interested in hearing the solution to that12:44
computerbut when using konqueror, it says can't detect windows media player version, so videos for u is ok =)12:44
jame1Boknoy: then you just type in the IP address of the machine running proxy and all requests will be routed through it instead12:44
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cybercodactually it got worse than that... being a complete idiot at the time... i tried to take out the bios chip... broke a pin on it and had to order a new motherboard12:45
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kenthomsonthelinuxguy, jame1 cybercod could you please help me with the above question?12:45
thelinuxguyyeah, cybercod, that does not sound very healthy... :-(12:45
cybercodI realize now I probably could have bought a replacement bios... but if I had known stuff like that I wouldn't have scewed it up in the first place12:45
cybercodthat was 10 years and many PC's ago12:45
cybercodkenthomson... shoot12:46
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kenthomsoncybercod, one more thing, i want to access System>administration>Disks, but the item "disks" is not listed, moreover from edit menus also there is no entry for Disks under Administration, how do i get that utility?12:46
Keeguoncomputer: have you tried the MediaPlayerConnectivity Extension on Firefox maybe it'll work...12:46
thelinuxguysorry kenthomson, I'm using strictly kde here... no gnome....12:46
Boknoyjame1:i dont know my proxy in ubuntu =/12:46
cybercodHmm... moment kenthomson12:46
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Boknoyjame1:how to know and view the proxy and port?12:47
kenthomsonthelinuxguy, any special reason for your inclination towards KDE?12:47
jame1Boknoy: I've PM'ed you12:47
kenthomsonthelinuxguy, i used KDE and found it to be too cluttered, and favouring the ZEN mentality i shifted to GNOME12:47
nobbihello and a happy new year12:47
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kane77nobbi, happy new year!! :D12:47
kenthomson!hi | nobbi12:47
ubotunobbi: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!12:47
thelinuxguykenthomson: yes, I just like KDE better, but that's only a matter of taste, isn't it...12:47
kenthomsonthelinuxguy, and there is some reason for everyone's taste, so my question is what in KDE suits your taste?:)12:48
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nobbidon't know, how long I will be a user of Ubuntu :-(12:48
kane77nobbi, why?12:48
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kenthomsonnobbi, please directly ask your question without resorting to any tricks :)12:48
nobbilot of trouble12:48
cybercodkenthomson... try sudo disks-admin in terminal12:49
kenthomsonnobbi, go ahead and speak it all out in one long post, instead of spreading it over the whole page :)12:49
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kenthomsoncybercod, one more thing, i want to access System>administration>Disks, but the item "disks" is not listed, moreover from edit menus also there is no entry for Disks under Administration, how do i get that utility?12:49
nobbiok, I 've some probs to run my Wificard12:49
kenthomsoncybercod, no WAIT wrong PASTE :(12:49
Boknoyjamey3:i dont see any pm here sir12:49
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kenthomsoncybercod, ken@ken-ubuntu:~$ sudo disks-admin12:50
kenthomsonsudo: disks-admin: command not found12:50
fotoflo2hey, does anyone know how to setup remote desktop?12:50
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kenthomsonBoknoy, PMs are allowed only from registered NICKs12:50
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lillyi want a shell script to run at boottime. where shd i add the code to?12:50
jamey31Boknoy: sorry unregistered nick, should be working now12:50
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nobbiI was using SuSE before and had less problems12:50
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fotoflo2kenthomson: no ":"12:50
kenthomsonnobbi, please consider reading this, most probably your question shall get solved, https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/connect-to-internet.html12:51
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kenthomsonfotoflo2, i entered "sudo disks-admin" cant you see its a paste?12:51
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cybercodok.. ken.. one moment... currently logged into my linux box with xfce... so i'm having trouble finding it12:51
kenthomsoncybercod, i can wait :012:52
fotoflo2kenthomson: whoops12:52
basvghey all.. I just installed banshee, it doesn't seem to see my ipod nano. I can mount the nano manually but then it *still* doesn't see it. Any thoughts ?12:52
fotoflo2hey, does anyone know how to setup remote desktop?12:52
tomplastGoodmorning everyone. I have just inserted a new graphics card in my computer. I still have the old one (a s3 pci) in my computer and today I inserted a Geforce MX in the AGP slot. My VGA cable is connected to the Geforce MX but when I try to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it detects the card as a S3 but I want it to detect the Geforce MX (which is now supposed to be my primary graphics card). Can anyone help me getting xserve12:53
lillyi want a shell script to run at boottime. where shd i add the code to?12:53
nobbithanks, I'll try it12:53
basvggtkpod seems to work, though12:53
jamey31tomplast: instead of letting it autodetect the module, select the correct one in the list12:53
basvgbut I'd prefer banshee as it has a much better/nicer interface12:53
phr34ckHey, I have downloaded the new version of gparted, and I have installed it, how can I make it launch when I write: sudo gparted? because when I Write that, it launched the default one12:53
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nobbiis there a german community in irc?12:54
nobbi????12:54
tomplastjamey31: So it's as simple as that ^^. I thought so but I wasnt sure12:55
J-_Probably, http://www.searchirc.com12:55
tomplastjamey31: Thanks for the help ^^. Take care12:55
kenthomson!gr12:55
ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes12:55
phr34ckHey, I have downloaded the new version of gparted, and I have installed it, how can I make it launch when I write: sudo gparted? because when I Write that, it launched the default one12:55
noiesmonobbi, #ubuntu-de12:56
lillyi want a shell script to run at boottime. where shd i add the code to?12:56
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kenthomsontomplast, If you are getting any display when you have connected your monitor to the new display card, that means that X has recognised it12:56
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kenthomsonphr34ck, only one version how gparted can exist at a time, so your question is infact bsaeless :)12:57
cybercodkenthomson try disks-conf12:57
kenthomsonphr34ck, If you used synaptic it would have asked you to remove the older gparted if you wanted to install a new one "conflicting packages"12:57
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cybercodsudo disks-conf12:57
kenthomsoncybercod, command not found12:57
phr34ckkenthomson, I downloaded a .tar.gz and then I ran the install. so now I have an executable inside the folder, which is gparted.12:57
phr34ckI go to that folder but I cannot launch it.12:58
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cybercodperhaps you don't have it installed... else it would be in your menu12:58
kenthomsonphr34ck, i advice using synaptic/apt-get12:58
kenthomsoncybercod, command not found12:58
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defcon8I cannot find the ubuntu torrent on the site. Can someone help, please?12:58
kenthomsonphr34ck, can you do this "sudo apt-get remove gparted"12:58
phr34ckkenthomson, Umm so my download was useless ... *Sighs*12:58
cybercodtry looking for it in the repos12:58
kenthomsonphr34ck, and then "sudo apt-get install gparted"12:58
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phr34ckkenthomson, on what basis does it upgrade it?12:59
defcon8I do not see an option for a torrent file anywhere12:59
kenthomsoncybercod, i looked for "disks" in the repos but got obscure results12:59
phr34ckis there an official website ?12:59
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thelinuxguykenthomson: there doesn't seem to be any package availeble that's providing disks-admin in ubuntu ?12:59
kenthomsonphr34ck, if you do "sudo apt-get upgrade", all your installed software including gparted will be updated so theres no need to install/download a new version01:00
phr34ckI see, thanks.01:00
kenthomsonthelinuxguy, yes01:00
phr34ckWell, I downloaded like 80 upgrades yesterday01:00
phr34ckI just run apt-get update, yes ?01:00
kenthomsonphr34ck, "sudo apt-get update"01:00
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lillyi want a shell script to run at boottime. where shd i add the code to?01:00
defcon8can someone tell me where the torrent is for ubuntu 6.10, please?01:01
defcon8simple question01:01
cybercodkenthomson... it is definately disks-admin... look for it in repos01:01
thelinuxguykenthomson: the command seems to be gone, it was there before edgy...01:01
defcon8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3rnJE0LC7I01:01
defcon8whoops01:01
kenthomsonlilly please don't paste again and again, if someone is there he shall answer01:01
defcon8To use BitTorrent, choose a link from above corresponding to a location near you. You will see an option for a torrent file.01:01
defcon8I do not see a bloody link to a torrent file anywhere01:01
kenthomsoncybercod, no result found in synaptic01:01
kenthomsonthelinuxguy, doesn't work in 6.1001:01
cybercodyou got weird repos?01:02
kenthomsondefcon8, why would you want to torrent it? Download it simply via the site01:02
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defcon8kenthomson, the servers slow01:02
kenthomsoncybercod, no my repos are not broken nor malfunctioning, they are perfectly fine01:02
thelinuxguykenthomson: like I said, it used to work in Dapper !01:02
kenthomsondefcon8, its not likey that you shall get a faster speed via torrent01:02
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phr34ckMan .... what the hell is wrong with SUDO ? I'm always getting Timespan something01:02
kenthomsondefcon8, patience is the key, try a different server01:02
kenthomsonphr34ck, if you are using graphical apps try "gksudo <app_name>" as in "gksudo gedit"01:03
phr34ckkenthomson, what does that do ?01:03
kenthomsoncybercod, thelinuxguy: now where do i get that "disks" thing in System>administration?01:03
kenthomsonphr34ck, thats the same as sudo but for graphical apps it behaves more nicely :)01:04
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cybercodKen its disks-admin in repos01:04
thelinuxguykenthomson, I've found it: install with "sudo apt-get install pysdm"01:04
cybercodthere we go01:04
cybercodnice01:04
kenthomsoncybercod, there is nothing like "disks-admin" in repos01:04
phr34ckkenthomson,  I see, thanks.01:04
thelinuxguythen you will find it under system...Administration.....Storage Device Manager01:04
thelinuxguyReply With Quote01:04
cybercodok.. sorry for misinforming01:04
phr34cksame problem man ... timespan too far in the future ...01:05
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kenthomsonthelinuxguy, thank you for informing, help is much appreciated can you tell me how did you find it out01:05
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thelinuxguykenthomson: I searched the ubuntu forums on http://www.ubuntuforums.org01:06
kenthomsonthelinuxguy, :)01:06
cybercodi love those forums01:06
kenthomsonthelinuxguy, now that the package is installed what command do i enter at the CLI to get that disks thing?01:06
kenthomsondisks-admin doesn't work01:07
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cybercodi wish I was in gnome but i can't change now01:07
kenthomsonpsydm too doesn't work01:07
phr34ckHey, I'm trying to install GCC 4.1.1 but I cannot do it since I'm having this error: C compiler does not exist.01:07
phr34ckWhat am I suppose to do ?01:07
cybercodits not in menu ?01:07
crimsunphr34ck, install build-essential01:07
kenthomsoncybercod, nothing in menu01:07
phr34ckI already have it.01:08
thelinuxguykenthomson; read the whole thread on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=317742&highlight=disks-admin+in+edgy01:08
crimsunphr34ck, if you do, then ``gcc -v'' should work fine01:08
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fotoflo2what is remote desktop called in ubuntu01:08
fotoflo2?01:08
kenthomsoncrimsun, could you help me? I am on GNOME and am trying to get System>administration>Disks, but that entry doesn't exist. nor is it on edit-menu>Administration, so i installed package "psydm" now how do i run that Disks package?01:08
kenthomsonthelinuxguy, let me do that01:08
phr34ckcrimsun, the thing is that I'm launching the configure file found inside the folder.01:08
crimsunkenthomson, I have no idea what you're referring to (no experience w/ those)01:09
phr34ckso it checks and everything, and then it stops on C compiler./01:09
cybercodphr34ck... perhaps the configuration script creates another executable?01:09
crimsunphr34ck, what are you trying to compile?01:09
phr34ckit does locate gcc, but it says that the compiler cannot process C or something01:09
phr34ckGCC 4.1.101:09
thelinuxguykenthomson; it's possible that you need to logout - and login - to see the changes in the gnome menu...01:09
euanHi, I've manually stuffed up my X setup.  Can someone tell me which script the installer runs so  I can invoke that?  Seems the script's cleverer than me :-)01:09
phr34ckI don't know what the configure file is doing.01:10
crimsunphr34ck, err, why? gcc 4.1.1 is included with ubuntu.01:10
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kenthomsonthelinuxguy, worked like a charm! Thank you, and one more thing this "psydm" thingy is not the same as "System>admin>Disks" But it shall work well too01:10
kenthomsonHave a nice day! happy UBUNT-ing :) :) :)01:10
phr34ckcrimsun, how can I know that?01:10
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phr34ckfeeling*01:10
cybercodI'm not good at building01:11
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crimsunphr34ck, what's the output from gcc -v ?01:11
cybercod... yet01:11
kenthomsonthelinuxguy, sorry for the misinformation its the same thing :)01:11
thelinuxguykenthomson; glad I could help ! Happy New Year ! :-)01:11
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phr34ckhold on01:11
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euanI'm stuck with a 640x480 desktop, that's the max available to me.  Before I stuffed it up I could go as high as 1600x1200 (not that my eyes could)01:12
thelinuxguykenthomson: "Cheers" ! :-)01:12
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phr34ckC compiler cannot create executables.01:13
phr34ckgcc C compiler does not work.01:13
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crimsunphr34ck, that should not be the output from ``gcc -v''01:13
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phr34ckokay, it gave me like 40 lines01:14
kenthomsoneuan, Do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and follow the simple instructions, sticking to the defaults as much as possible. IN the driver section select "nv" if you have nvidia card or VESA if you dont know, in the resolutions thing put a * by clicking space in the appropriate resolutions in that wizard01:14
phr34ckwhat are you looking for ?01:14
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euanThanks kenthomson, I'll try that.01:14
crimsunphr34ck, the very last (bottom) line01:14
J-_euan: Did you turn on your computer before you plugged your monitor in? Same thing happened, I didn't have my monitor plugged in and I turned on computer, and the re. was low with no option to make bigger, so I restarted and it worked like normal. I had xubuntu installed on a dapper LAMP server.01:15
kenthomsoneuan, after that restart X by pressing "ctrl-alt-backspace" or simple reboot the computer01:15
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phr34ckGCC version 4.0.301:15
crimsunphr34ck, are you using dapper?01:15
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kenthomsonJ-_, nice insight :)01:16
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koyo001ok problem01:16
J-_Hope that works, heh.01:17
koyo001trying to run from the terminal window command make01:17
phr34ckcrimsun,  yes01:17
koyo001doent work01:17
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J-_koyo001: do you have build essentials installed?01:17
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crimsunphr34ck, and can't dist-upgrade to edgy?01:17
koyo001tells me command not found01:18
kane77koyo001, sudo apt-get install build-essential01:18
kenthomsonkoyo001, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"01:18
phr34ckcrimsun,  what ?01:18
kenthomsonkane77, :)01:18
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crimsunphr34ck, dapper doesn't have 4.1.1, but edgy does.01:18
kane77kenthomson, hh01:18
J-_whoops, no 's' =D01:18
koyo001ok will try that01:18
kane77kenthomson, funny :D01:18
LinTuxhow do I install the XFCE desktop in terminal01:18
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phr34ckcrimsun,  it's available on their website.01:18
Gosha!svn01:18
ubotusvn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/01:18
phr34ckWhy I cannot use it ?01:19
kane77koyo001, and sometimes you need to run ./configure01:19
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crimsunphr34ck, I'm not talking about upstream; I'm talking about Ubuntu.01:19
kane77LinTux, sudo apt-get install xfce401:19
phr34ckcrimsun,  I have no idea what you're talking about man.01:19
koyo001configure hyeon01:19
koyo001???01:19
crimsunphr34ck, obviously if you want to bootstrap gcc 4.1.1, you're free to do so. Just make sure your toolchain's configured properly first, which means you need a working compiler, binutils, and l-k-h01:20
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kane77koyo001, what are you trying to install?01:20
crimsunphr34ck, if your compiler doesn't work, --reinstall gcc and cpp01:20
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koyo001ndiswrapper01:20
LinTuxkane77: many thanks m8, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!01:21
koyo001need to run a windows driver01:21
crimsunphr34ck, and make very sure that the toolchain components are properly installed (binutils, gcc, libc6-dev, linux-kernel-headers)01:21
J-_eww01:21
phr34ckcrimsun,  since gcc 4.0.3 is installed .. how can I write C++ program.01:21
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phr34ckcrimsun,  I think I have them.01:21
kane77LinTux, happy new year to you too... youre welcome...01:21
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phr34ckThe thing is that everything is soo messed up now. I'm totally new and installing packages here and there.01:21
crimsunphr34ck, you don't need gcc-4.1.1 to write C++ programs01:21
phr34ckno idea what I'm doing.01:21
kane77koyo001, isn't ndiswrapper available from repositories via apt-get??01:22
crimsunphr34ck, all you needed to compile C++ programs is 'build-essential'01:22
phr34ckhow can I organise my packages.01:22
phr34ck?01:22
koyo001humm not sure01:22
crimsunphr34ck, what in the world are you attempting to do?01:22
cybercodkoyo      read  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Windows_Wireless_Drivers_.28Ndiswrapper.2901:22
koyo001i used gz01:22
MeniskHow can I install only the base system of 6.06?01:22
MeniskI don't have the alternate install.01:23
phr34ckcrimsun,  I'm getting familiar with Linux ;p01:23
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phr34ckhey, I just ran ./configure and it worked.01:23
phr34ckWhat's next ?01:23
koyo001thanks cybercod01:23
kenthomson!shockwave01:23
ubotuShockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave01:23
koyo001still with the same problem01:23
crimsunphr34ck, you still haven't stated what you're attempting to do...01:23
kenthomsonAnyone having SHOCKWAVE running under wine on Ubuntu? I got some problems01:23
cybercodkoyo.. describe... i think i missed it01:23
kane77koyo001, I'm not sure... there is ndisgtk, a gtk frontend... you might try to install that (sudo apt-get install ndisgtk)01:23
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phr34ckI wanted to have a decent C++ compiler. So I downloaded gcc and I'm here to see how to install it. I had no idea that there is a built in compiler01:24
kane77brb01:24
cybercodthere are dependent packages with the ndis packages... are you installing from synaptic?01:24
crimsunphr34ck, the C++ compiler is g++01:24
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phr34ckyeah, I figured ..01:25
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phr34ckSo now I ran the configure script succefully, now what?01:25
MeniskHow can I install only the base system of 6.06?01:25
Menisk I don't have the alternate install.01:25
phr34ckHow do I make gcc 4.1.1 work ??01:25
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cybercodMenisk.  base system?  normal install?01:25
phr34ckmeh, gcc is ?01:26
crimsunphr34ck, you -already- have a working C++ compiler installed01:26
kenthomson!alternate01:26
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.01:26
crimsungcc is the C compiler01:26
phr34ckcrimsun,  okay how to I work with it?01:26
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phr34ckwhere is it ?01:26
kakaltoI boot ubuntu in CLI-only, and the screensaver (blank screen) goes on every 10 minutes or so, how can I either change the time for this, or turn it off?01:26
crimsunphr34ck, g++01:26
Meniskcybercod, I only want the base system for a server, no window manager etc.01:26
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kenthomsonkakalto, there is some command to kill the gnome-screensaver01:27
crimsunMenisk, install ubuntu-minimal01:27
phr34ckkool01:27
phr34ckis it a high end compiler?01:27
phr34ckor just a "built in" one ?01:27
kakaltokenthomson: does gnome-screensaver even run when there's no X?01:27
crimsunphr34ck, what do you mean by "high end"?01:27
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Siv0x!nvidia01:28
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:28
kenthomsonkakakoka, interesting question, without x there is no GNOME without GNOME there is no gnome-screensaver, so what you are seeing is not the screen-saver unless it is running in backgroun01:28
kitsune1hi all01:28
Meniskcrimsun, How do I do that from the live CD, or do I need alternate install?01:28
kitsune1happy new year !01:28
crimsunphr34ck, it's part of all Ubuntu installs01:28
phr34ckcrimsun,  I mean a very decent C++ compiler01:28
kenthomsonkakakoka, in the text-mode try alt-ctrl-f7, and see whether you go to a X-login session, if yes, than X is running in background01:28
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crimsunphr34ck, GCC is very good01:29
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nn          collisions:23034 txqueuelen:100001:29
crimsunphr34ck, it's not shoddy software if that's what you're asking01:29
kenthomsonkakakoka, if yes can kill x by "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"01:29
nnAnyone got an rt2500 doing that too?01:29
kitsune1can anyone help me?01:29
phr34ckcrimsun,  but you said that GCC is not a C++ compiler?01:29
crimsunMenasim1, it's part of all Ubuntu installs01:29
phr34ckg++ is the same as gcc ?01:29
nnphr34ck: g++ is01:29
DarthLappykitsune1: With?01:29
kenthomson!ask | kitsune101:29
ubotukitsune1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:29
nnphr34ck: g++ is a part of gcc01:29
kakaltokenthomson: do you even know what CLI means?01:29
crimsunphr34ck, no, gcc != g++ just as C != C++01:29
kakaltoI run ubuntu-minimal01:29
phr34ckumm01:29
nnphr34ck: GCC is the GNU Compiler Collection01:29
kenthomsonkakakoka, ofcourse01:29
phr34ckI see, so I downloaded the hole package, not just the C++ compiler.01:30
kitsune1well i took a pic ture of wat happens when i run ubuntu can u please ahve a look at it01:30
kenthomsonkitsune1, link it01:30
phr34ckthat's good, since I'm going to be using Java as well.01:30
nnIf g++ is installed, the gcc frontend will invoke 'g++' on .cc, .cpp, and .c++ files01:30
kakaltokenthomson: then why are you telling me how to kill gnomescreensaver (I assume runs on X), and how to kill X... when I don't run X?01:30
phr34ckHow can I take advantage of it >?01:30
kitsune11 sec ill upload01:30
nnphr34ck: that's gcj01:30
phr34ckit's not included in the GCC ?01:30
kenthomsonkakakoka, but you are telling me that a screen save is running in the background01:30
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SubMOAhello! What does "&lt;3" mean?01:30
nnphr34ck: it's part of gcc, but a seperate package01:30
nnSubMOA: <301:30
kenthomsonkakakoka, if there is a screensaver running than X is definitely running the background01:30
nnSubMOA: a heart01:31
phr34ckI see.01:31
cybercodkakalto... can you find the process ID?01:31
kakaltokenthomson: I don't run X!01:31
SubMOAsay what?01:31
SubMOA:O)01:31
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kenthomsonkakakoka, If not, than you shouldn't HAVE A SCREENSAVER!!!01:31
nnSubMOA: &lt; is an HTML entity for the character '<' (less than)01:31
phr34ckwoohoo, I just made my first C++ on Ubuntu ...01:31
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nnSubMOA: so &lt;3 is <3 in HTML :)01:31
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kenthomsonphr34ck, way to go!01:31
SubMOAnn oOo, thank you so much.  Wow, you rock!01:31
phr34ckWhy do I have to write this : ./testing ? why not just testing ?01:31
nnSubMOA: :)01:31
nnphr34ck: it's a safety feature01:31
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kenthomsonGoodbye all! and have a nice day! HAPPY UBUNT-ing :)01:32
phr34cknn, what does it mean ?01:32
SubMOAis ASCII an "entity" for text?01:32
DarthLappyphr34ck: "testing" will try and execute it from $PATh01:32
kakaltokenthomson: it's not a conventional screensaver... the screen blanks after 10 minutes or so. This is the "screensaver" I wish to either change the time for, or remove completely.01:32
nnphr34ck: ./whatever means run 'whatever' from the current directory (.)01:32
koyo001helo01:32
phr34cknn,  I see.01:32
cybercodoh... thats power management then kakalto... i think01:32
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kakaltocybercod: I'm not sure what the program is exactly, so I don't know how to find the pid01:32
kitsune1ok01:32
kitsune1heres one01:32
kitsune1http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00184xw2.jpg01:32
nnphr34ck: if you have '.' in your $PATH (DANGEROUS) someone could put a nasty program in the directory (which could compromise your machine)01:32
phr34ckCan't I use the GCC that I downloaded? It was a waste of time ...01:32
kitsune1and another01:32
kitsune1http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00186ly1.jpg01:32
nnphr34ck: and it would be ran instead of the program you want01:32
nnSubMOA: no01:33
phr34cknn,  thanks.01:33
nnSubMOA: since < and > are part of HTML markup, they can't be directly used01:33
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n1gkeGood morning everyone.01:33
phr34ckThese are Linux in general, and not just Ubuntu, yes >?01:33
nnSubMOA: instead &lt; and &gt; (and several others) exist for this purpose01:33
nnphr34ck: yes.01:33
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nnphr34ck: it's a safety feature01:33
SubMOAohh, I understand!01:33
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SubMOAthank you!01:33
kenthomson_a01:34
phr34ckwhere I can find Java interpreter ?01:34
nnphr34ck: so that if you really want to run something from the current directory, you have to knowingly do so by say './whatever' (run whatever from current directory (.)01:34
nnSubMOA: np01:34
kenthomson_!java | phr34ck01:34
ubotuphr34ck: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository01:34
phr34cknn,  I understand mate.01:34
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nnphr34ck: you probably want jre, unless doing java development, then jdk might be better bet for you01:35
kakaltoso, does anyone know how to stop the screen blanking after 10 minutes or so on ubuntu-minimal, in CLI-only, no X?01:35
phr34ckI need jdk, yes01:35
nnkakalto: that's APM01:35
phr34ckJDK requires JRE anyway01:35
cybercodkakalto.. hold a moment.. i think i got something01:35
cybercodreading01:35
nnmount -o remount,rw /01:35
phr34ckbut I do java programs, so I need the development kit.01:35
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nnoops01:35
kakaltonn: ahk, cool... any ideas how to mess with it?01:35
koyo001ok01:35
kakaltocybercod: thanks, sounds good01:35
koyo001cant install ndiswrapper01:35
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koyo001not working01:36
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nnkakalto: edit /etc/console-tools/config01:36
koyo001trying real hard here01:36
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nnkakalto: find 'BLANK_TIME'01:36
koyo001nothing working01:36
kitsune1kenthomson : u know whats wrong with it?01:36
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kakaltonn: thanks very much for your help :01:37
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kakalto*   :-)01:37
php-freakcan someone tell me how i can download all ftp files from clie?01:37
php-freakfrom my server01:37
nnCOMMITed 74819904 rows, 0 errors, 58 SLOW, 7 optimize misses01:37
nnhrmm01:37
php-freaki tried wget, but it only downloads like 3 files, then quites01:37
casemodsdoes anyone speak python?01:37
kakaltocybercod: nn pointed out the file to edit, thanks01:37
nn74 million rows? :)01:37
casemodsi have a little problem01:37
nnphp-freak: wget -c -m -np ftp://your-url01:37
kakaltokenthomson_: thankyou for being the most ignorant person I found on this channel.01:38
php-freakwhats the -c -np mean?01:38
cybercodcool... i wasn't even close01:38
php-freakwhat about -r?01:38
jmspeexIs there any way (using Edgy) to tell beagle to stop filling my home directory with gigabytes worth of logs?01:38
nnphp-freak: -c is continue, you can really ommit it, -np means don't go up the directory tree, only down01:38
php-freakonly downloaded like 3 files, then quit01:38
cybercodi was looking at "acpi -h"01:38
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php-freakit only downloaded a index.html file, and nothing else????????????????01:39
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php-freakany one here know how to donwload ftp files cli?01:39
php-freakany one here know how to donwload ftp files cli?01:39
kitsune1can anyone please tell me why i get this on my monitor01:39
kitsune1http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00184xw2.jpg01:39
kitsune1http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00186ly1.jpg01:39
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nn     Thermal 1: ok, 105.8 degrees F01:39
nnphp-freak: did you put ftp:// on the url?01:40
php-freakwell duh01:40
php-freak wget -R -C -M -NP ftp://test:test@url.com:2101:40
php-freaki trried that01:40
nnwhy caps?01:40
nn-m -np01:41
php-freakwget -R ftp://blah:blah@blah.com:2101:41
php-freakI tried small caps too01:41
nnphp-freak: just -m -np should be fine01:41
php-freakI tried wget -R -c -m -np01:41
php-freakdone tried it01:41
php-freakbut ill try it again01:41
nnif not, your ftp sever is on crack, MS FTP by chance?01:41
nnphp-freak: Don't put the -r01:41
php-freakfor crying out loud its download this time01:42
php-freakhehe01:42
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php-freaki need to read a book no this stuff01:42
slacker_nlhello01:42
php-freakwhats the -m -np mean again?01:42
slacker_nl!mount01:42
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter01:42
cybercodkitsune1 ... i'm thinking incompatible graphics driver01:42
DarthLappyphp-freak: man wget :D01:42
nn-m is mirror, it makes a nice directory tree and gets all files, -np prevents going back up the directory tree01:42
slacker_nl!diskmounter01:42
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse01:42
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slacker_nl!fstab01:43
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions01:43
slacker_nl!removable media01:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about removable media - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:43
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nn793318 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 811562110 2007-01-01 07:16 sql-commit.log01:43
nnhah.. 793mb log file01:43
slacker_nl!automount01:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:43
slacker_nlgrrr01:43
casemodsjust type /quit whoever, and it'll quit them from irc01:44
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cybercodkitsune1... still there?01:45
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elkbuntucasemods, that sort of crap is not welcome here01:46
jwisehappy new year01:46
nnholy crapmonkey01:46
casemodssorrry01:46
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nni've got over 15 million pending emails01:47
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cybercodholy moly01:47
nnstupid spam01:47
cybercodi thought my 800 were bad01:47
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cybercodhow long does it take to build up that far?01:47
nncybercod: oh, out of that, maybe 200,000 will make it past spam filters01:47
nncybercod: about a day01:47
slacker_nl!help01:47
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:47
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unfunHow do I change from gnome to KDE ?01:48
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SumitHi, wats happening room01:48
cybercodinstall package "kubuntu-desktop" in synaptic01:48
HymnToLifeunfun, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop01:48
Sumitcan someone help me with Bluetoothing01:48
cybercodthen select kde session before logging in01:48
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kenthomson_!nvidia01:49
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:49
vanbergeso... what is the key to enable syntax highligting in vi ?01:49
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fotoflo_Hey All, Ive got a FAT32 partition mounted on my ubuntu system, but its read only - how do i make it read-write?01:50
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Sumitlike how can I pair with my fone, or search for services on it, or just transfer files to it??01:50
slacker_nlset vanberge echo "syntax enable" >> ~/.vimrc01:50
kitsune1yes01:50
jean-nobonne anne 200701:50
slacker_nls/set //01:50
cybercodfotoflo    sudo gedit /etc/fstab01:50
HymnToLife!gksudo | cybercod01:50
ubotucybercod: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"01:50
Rookie-syntax on01:50
cybercodfotoflo   find entry for fat32 partition... change -ro to -rw01:50
vanbergeslacker_nl,  well, if i editedt /etc/vim/vimrc and uncommented taht line shouldn't that do the trick?01:51
fotoflo_err there is no entry01:51
kitsune1ok but how can i change it beacuse i can see any thing01:51
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fotoflo_i mounted it manually01:51
kenthomson_Has anyone run SHOCKWAVE through WINE, under Ubuntu? I need some help.01:51
slacker_nlvanberge: believe so, its the globale vimrc01:51
fotoflo_haven't rebooted yet...01:51
nnanyone got a fine t01:51
kitsune1and my mouse properly01:51
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fildo!fonts01:51
slacker_nlso thats for every user01:51
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer01:51
nnanyone got a fine tip soldering iron? :)01:51
NineTeen67Come1Grrr . anyone have a good simple e-mail server setup how to? (All the ones I can find are super secure -that's fine, but I want it working then I'll lock it down-) ..01:51
fotoflo_how do i had it to my fstab?01:51
siv0x!java > siv0x01:51
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nnNineTeen67Come1: i run postfix01:51
vanbergeslacker_nl, well, i did that, but no syntax highlighting...  :-(01:51
cybercodwait a moment foto.. i'll find you a link01:52
fotofok cool01:52
NineTeen67Come1nn: postfix .. that sends the mail for you? (smtp) ..01:52
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vanbergeslacker_nl, better yet... i try to 'vim filename.php' and i get  "syntax on, this command is not valid'01:52
kenthomsonCan someone help me setup SHOCKWAVE?01:52
nnNineTeen67Come1: It can be configured in many roles, local only, full internet site, etc01:52
kitsune1cybercod : what should i do coz i cant move the mouse very gd, how can i change the drivers, at the moment me using windows01:52
NineTeen67Come1nn:  I tried to follow this how-to and my gawed . it got ugly .. http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/01:52
cybercodfoto http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28FAT.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read.2Fwrite01:52
slacker_nlvanberge: in the /etc/vim/vimrc its callesd syntax on01:52
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kenthomsonno-one? :(01:53
NineTeen67Come1nn: I just need to mainly send mail out to people that want to register, have server questions and the like.. if need be I can write them back on my regular e-mail ..01:53
nnNineTeen67Come1: my postfix configs have always been quick and easy01:53
fotofochecking it out01:53
fotofothanks01:53
slacker_nlvanberge: grep -i syntax /etc/vim/vimrc , you will see the line you need to change01:53
cybercodkitsume1 what is your graphics card?01:53
NineTeen67Come1nn: can I just aptitude install postfix .. and start there? .. I know it asks me internet smart server etc etc .. I don't know really which to select .. it's a web server .. so internet I assume?01:54
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cybercodno problem01:54
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nnyou're an Internet host01:54
kitsune1cybercod : the screens i sent is from 6.06, when i try and run 6.10 it goes into a black screen and says video video not avalible01:54
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kitsune1cybercod :  its a nvidia xfx geforce 6600 gt 256mb01:54
NineTeen67Come1nn:  it is a web server ..01:54
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nnNineTeen67Come1: yea, and it'll be getting incoming mail, correct?01:54
fotofocybercod, errr its not loading01:54
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NineTeen67Come1nn: Incomming would be a bonus .. sending is important because plone sends them their passwd ..01:55
cybercodkitsume .. you're on a different pc right?01:55
fotofothat earthquake in taiwan is really starting to piss me off01:55
kenthomsonI am running AMD Athlon 2600 XP+, should i install kernel linux-image-386?01:55
nnNineTeen67Come1: Then pick internet host, follow the settings. all done01:55
kitsune1cybercod : no same pc in windows01:55
cybercodfoto.. one moment01:55
nnfotofo: you? My cheap hw source is on hold01:55
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NineTeen67Come1nn: I'll give 'er a try .. thanks for the confidance booster .. heheheh01:55
nnfotofo: meaning im having to wait for my damn 5$ mobos and CPUs01:55
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nnwhich puts my projects on hold bc ya. i'm poor :)01:56
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cybercodfoto... try  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy then find FAT on the page01:56
cbx33hi all01:56
fotofonn: well at least you have usable internet01:56
kitsune1?01:56
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cybercodKitsume... what is your graphics card?  did i miss you saying ?01:56
fotofonn: i can buy for you in beijing and fedex if you need it NOW :-)01:56
vanbergeslacker_nl, it is not working.  i see the line and i un-commented it... but i get no syntax color01:56
NineTeen67Come1nn: shoot .. looks like it's already installed .. by chance you know how to re-institute the settings? ..01:57
vanbergeslacker_nl, do i have to run something other than vim?01:57
kitsune1cybercod :  ol yes its a nvidia xfx geforce 6600 gt 256mb01:57
vanbergewhen i uncomment taht line it says syntax on is not a valid command01:57
fotofoi got a NIC and a soundboard yesterday for $701:57
nnNineTeen67Come1: dpkg-reconfigure postfix01:57
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NineTeen67Come1nn: awesome thanks .. I always forget avout dpkg-stuff ..01:57
cybercodKitsume... one moment... I shall look01:57
nnNineTeen67Come1: :)01:57
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kitsune1thanks alot01:58
kitsune1:)01:58
slacker_nlvanberge: hold on letme give it a try01:58
NineTeen67Come1nn: it only gives me No config / Internet Site / Internet with smarthost / Satellite system and local only .. internet site?01:59
gnufiedI am having trouble configuring my Nvidia 6200 TurboCache GPU and LCD monitor.01:59
gnufiedtrouble is, i don't have horizontal and vertical sync rates range of my monitor01:59
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slacker_nlvanberge: works for me...01:59
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slacker_nlvanberge: could you put your /etc/vim/vimrc in a pastebin (/topic)01:59
NineTeen67Come1gnufied: you should be able to find them via google .. I found them for my "Green House" brand monitor .. (purchased here in Japan so I couldn't read the manual) ..02:00
nnNineTeen67Come1: internet site02:00
NineTeen67Come1nn: rodger .. thank you ..02:00
fotofocybercod, how do i refresh my fstab to test if it worked?02:00
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vanbergeslacker_nl, yeah hold on just a sec02:00
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nnfotofo: if it's already mounted, mount -o remount,rw /mountpoint02:01
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nnfotofo: else mount -a02:01
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fotofonn: whats the rw?02:01
nnfotofo: read-write02:01
fotofoerr nevermind02:01
fotofoder02:01
fotofosorry02:01
nnit's 0800 (at least EST) understandable02:02
nni'm on my second week awake :)02:02
nni'd hardly count the brief naps i've taken in the last 10 days as sleep02:02
drbreenis there an ubuntu DEB package for OLPC sugar interface ?02:02
nnbut much code must be done02:02
cybercodfoto you can just reboot02:02
nndrbreen: apt-cache search olp|sort|less02:02
vanbergeslacker_nl,   http://pastebin.com/84891002:02
nncybercod: eww02:02
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fotofoits 9:00 pm BST02:02
vanbergeslacker_nl, ty for looking at this with me02:02
nncybercod: Please do not use that word in my presence02:03
drbreennn: of course there is nothing official02:03
drbreennn: i can use apt-cache -_-02:03
nndrbreen: sorry, no idea, asked google?02:03
drbreennn: points me only to source ?02:03
nndrbreen: no, it gives names of packages available02:03
cybercodkitsume... it looks like you'll need to install a graphics drivers for your card.02:03
nndrbreen: you can use apt-cache show packagename to see more info on a pacakge02:03
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cybercodnn... i'm no god here... i'm pretty new myself... i came in here to ask a question and have been in here several hours answering others as best as i can02:04
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slacker_nlvanberge: *click*02:04
fotofonn: fotoflo@fotoflo-desktop:/dev$ sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda102:04
fotofomount: /media/windows not mounted already, or bad option02:04
fotofoits already mounted02:05
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drbreennn: i am searching for "olpc sugar deb download ubuntu" and get no useful results02:05
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nnfotofo: did you use -o remount,rw ?02:05
drbreennn: what have you searched for ?02:05
nnahh strange02:05
NineTeen67Come1nn: I'm really sorry to bug you .. but do you know a good how-to on "using" postfix? It's all hooked up and I think I got everything entered correctly (a couple things didn't look familiar but I think I'll know the error when I see it) ..02:05
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nnNineTeen67Come1: http://www.tldp.org should have something good, probably in the mini-howto's02:05
slacker_nlvanberge: looks good to me02:05
nnNineTeen67Come1: and it's quite alright02:05
fotofofotoflo@fotoflo-desktop:/dev$ sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda102:05
HymnToLifeNineTeen67Come1, there is one in the howtos section in the !forums02:06
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NineTeen67Come1nn: thanks much ..02:06
kenthomsonI used open-source "nv" drivers and got 800x600 @ 85HZ, and when i switched to "nvidia" drivers i am getting 800x600 only at 85HZ, can someone please help? I have edited /etcX11/xorg.conf and put in the correct vertical/horizontal refresh rates of my monitor in the appropriate section, what else do i need to do to get 800x600@85hz, with proprietary-nvidia drivers?02:06
NineTeen67Come1you too HymnToLife ..02:06
fotofonn: yeah02:06
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kitsune1cybercod : ok but how can i do this because i need to navigate in linux and stuff but i cant coz of the screen and the mouse stops moving after couple of minutes02:06
kenthomson*now i am getting 800x600 only at 75hz02:06
nnfotofo: ahh not mounted already?02:06
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slacker_nlvanberge: could you open a file (.pl, .zsh, .sh, anything that needs syntax highlighting)02:07
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cybercodyou'll need to find and print the instructions for doing it in the command line... and you can press Ctrl+alt+F5 to get command line access02:07
fotofomounted02:07
fotofolistening to an MP3 from it02:07
fotofonn: i think i need to put "vfat" in there,02:08
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cybercodglad to hear it fotofo02:08
fotofonot sure of the syntax02:08
fotofocybercod, but i cant write to the disk02:08
kitsune1ok i have no got ubuntu install its the live cd i trying to run first so i can install it02:08
cybercodkitsume  you'll need to find and print the instructions for doing it in the command line... and you can press Ctrl+alt+F5 to get command line access02:08
vanbergeslacker_nl, yes02:08
slacker_nlfotofo: vfat is correct02:08
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fotofoslacker_nl, reading man... where's it go?02:09
kitsune1were do i put the drivers so then i can access them02:09
vanbergeslacker_nl, i have a php file open02:09
nnfotofo: /dev/whatever /media/windows vfat auto 0 002:09
nnor similar02:09
cybercodthats one I don't know... I'd try to get hands on alternate disk, does anyone know a way to install from command line on live CD?02:09
slacker_nlvanberge: in vi, now do :set syntax02:09
gnufiedNineTeen67Come1: I have the manual. its a viewsonic monitor, but bloddy they haven't given sync rates.02:09
slacker_nlfotofo: what nn says02:09
nncrazy but i remember all these things off the top of my head :P02:09
vanbergeslacker_nl, E519:  Option not supported: syntax02:10
slacker_nlfotofo: or dou it manually: mount -t vfat /dev/device /mount/point02:10
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fotofosudo mount -o remount, rw /dev/hda1    where's the vfat go?02:10
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NineTeen67Come1gnufied: hum .. usually back in the back there are specs .. not only physical dimention, but input voltages, etc etc ..02:10
nnthen again, i've been using linux for almost 10 years, *nix for hmm 1302:10
slacker_nlvanberge: are you using vim or vi?02:10
kitsune1cybercod : which drivers should i try02:10
peija-kasGMail Hacked: Visit ANY Website, and Your Whole Contact List Can be Stolen  http://epodaeta.notlong.com/  Works in Firefox, Opera, and IE. This link does not link directly to the exploit for obvious reasons.02:10
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nnfotofo: no space between the ,rw02:10
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fotofonn: only worked with the space02:11
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nnfotofo: thats incorrect then02:11
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nnfotofo: if unmounted, mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /media/windows02:11
slacker_nlvanberge: :set syntax in vim should return syntax=php02:11
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nnmount -o remount,rw /dev/hda1 (or /media/windows) would turn on writing (and remount,ro turn it off)02:12
nni do this on my /etc :)02:12
cybercodI'd give the proprietary Nvidia drivers a try02:12
nni boot up everything but /home is read-only (/tmp, /var/{lock,log,run} are all ram drives)02:12
nnbut i run off a thumbdrive too..02:12
fotofonn, that didnt work02:13
SubMOAhow would you register a password with IRC?02:13
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kitsune1ok when i get them were do i put them on so when i put in live cd then open the command line,, how whould i access the driver?02:13
fotofonot mounted or bad option02:13
fotofobut it is mounted02:13
vanbergeslacker_nl, i thought they were one in the same?  i am typing vi from command line02:13
HymnToLifeSubMOA, depends on the network02:13
fotofoso it must be a bad option02:13
kitsune1sry for so many questions02:14
slacker_nlvanberge: type: which vi02:14
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cybercodits ok... i ask my share....02:14
nnslacker_nl: /msg nickserv help02:14
nnfotofo: strange.. ;\02:14
fotofoill just reboot02:14
fotofoi tried unmount -f and got problems too02:14
cybercodi'm just trying to give back a little bit02:14
fotofodrive in use02:14
fotofoclosed the mp3's still problems02:14
slacker_nlnn?02:15
fotofontn02:15
nnslacker_nl: yes?02:15
mmzinpeople, im using cedega and i install the Steam, normal, when i open it the steam runs but dont apper the icon in the Task bar02:15
fotofos/ntn/brb02:15
slacker_nl<nn> slacker_nl: /msg nickserv help <-- ??02:15
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nnslacker_nl: wrong tab, sorry02:15
slacker_nlahh, ok02:15
nnSubMOA: /msg nickserv help02:15
vanbergeslacker_nl, /usr/bin/vi02:15
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SubMOAhtmntolife, thanks!02:16
slacker_nlvanberge: ls -altr /usr/bin/vi , what does that give you?02:16
SubMOAnn, thanks!02:16
nnSubMOA: yea, np02:16
phr34ck!APT02:16
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)02:16
mmzinpeople, im using cedega and i install the Steam, normal, when i open it the steam runs but dont apper the icon in the Task bar02:16
phr34ck!Synaptic02:17
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto02:17
vanbergeslacker_nl,  /usr/bin/vi -> /etc/alternatives/vi02:17
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vanbergeslacker_nl, should i symlink vi to vim?02:17
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slacker_nlvanberge: ls -altr /etc/alternatives/vi this should be a symlink to /usr/bin/vim02:18
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slacker_nlvanberge: do you have that?02:18
cybercodmmzin... i'm thinking...02:18
kenthomsoni installed firefox through WINE, and close it, now how do i find Windows version of firefox on my FS and run it again through WINE?02:19
lardarseslacker_nl: fow do you tell that a symlink is a symlink ?02:19
vanbergeslacker_nl, no...     /etc/alternatives/vi -> /usr/bin/vim.tiny02:19
lardarsehow*02:19
basvghi all.. I just fiddled with banshee some more. when I run 'ipod --list' then my ipod shows up nicely... but when I fire up banshee (0.11.1) then nuthin' ..02:19
slacker_nlmmm02:19
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slacker_nllardarse: if you see this: /etc/alternatives/vi -> /usr/bin/vim02:19
cybercodshould be ~/.wine/c_drive/program files/.......02:19
kenthomsoncybercod, let me try02:20
mmzincybercod, i have to install steam on the same partition that linux are, right02:20
slacker_nllardarse: that tells me /etc/alternatives/vi points to /usr/bin/vim02:20
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lardarseslacker_nl: which command... ls -altr ?02:20
slacker_nllardarse: yeah, ls -l will also do it :)02:20
lardarseok02:20
cybercodmmzini don't have world of warcraft installed on same partition02:20
cybercodand it still works02:20
slacker_nlvanberge: ok... I think vim.tiny shoudl also support syntax highlighting02:21
slacker_nlvanberge: any reason to use vim.tiny?02:21
mmzinwhen i kill02:21
cybercodmmzin.. is there a preset for Steam?02:21
mmzinsteam02:21
lardarseslacker_nl: aah, useful. thanks02:21
mmzindont show in system monitor anymore02:21
slacker_nlvanberge: otherwise remove vim.tiny and install vim regular02:21
kenthomsoncybercod, what do i do? "wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\firefox.exe": Module not found02:22
kenthomson"02:22
slacker_nllardarse: yw02:22
vanbergeslacker_nl, i have no reasons... im just on a default ubuntu install02:22
cybercodkenthomson... put it in quotes... it can't handle the space in "Program Files"02:22
nnvim is yucky :)02:22
slacker_nltssk ;)02:22
nnOk dudes and chicks and others..02:22
slacker_nlits not :)02:22
nnIf i was helping you and you have more questions, ask them now or hold your peace at least until i awaken02:23
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cybercodmmzin... it wouldn't show up as steam.. it would show up as wine or cedega02:23
nnthe sun is rising, ie it's time to retreat into the coffin for a few hours02:23
vanbergeslacker_nl, psh... sudo apt-get install vim fixed it02:23
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slacker_nlvanberge: hehe, kewl :)02:24
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archiehi can someone cud mail me original source list02:24
slacker_nlso vim.tiny does not support syntax highlighting..02:24
vanbergeslacker_nl, ty for helping me.02:24
slacker_nlvanberge: yw and enjoy vim :)02:24
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mmzincybercod, hmm right, i think that can be a incompatibility of gnome with steam to not apper in the tray02:25
mmzincybercod, steam makes all the updates but when finished, he dissapear02:25
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mamzers555can somebody tell me, what extension i have to install to get a menu in nautilus that give me the option to encrypt files with gpg?02:26
archiecan somebody sent me original software source list ?02:26
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MuffYkenthomson =)02:27
kenthomsonMuffY, You got my instructions yesterday? or did your client quit? :(02:28
MuffYsorry i quit yesterday, closed the laptop makes it go to sleep mode02:28
MuffYi forgot :p02:28
MuffYso i didn't get them02:28
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MuffYlet me check if this laptop keeps logs02:28
archiecan somebody sent me original software source list ?02:28
lardarseok.. does anyone here know where the best place to look is for info about Joysticks in Ubuntu ?02:29
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slacker_nlarchie: i have a sources.list for edgy available..02:29
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slacker_nlarchie: www.euronet.nl/users/wesleys/sources.list02:29
hexidigitalarchie::  what distro?02:29
archieedgy02:29
hexidigitalarchie::  oh.. sorry02:29
MuffYkenthomson: i reinstalled ubuntu (killed all partitions and remade them), i only installed ubuntu this time02:29
MuffYkenthomson: same problem again, black screen02:29
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archiety slacker02:30
=== hexidigital just pastebinned one too :/
kenthomsonMuffY, yuck!02:30
MuffYkenthomson: indeed =(02:30
kenthomsonMuffY, Did you try ctrl-alt-f1 at that black screen?02:30
MuffYyes02:30
kenthomsonMuffY, Doesn't  work?02:30
NineTeen67Come1thanks much nn .. it's running, now I gotta figure out how to get it sending correctly .. (it times out right now .. my isp might be stomping on it) .. have good night .02:30
MuffYkenthomson, no02:30
mmzincybercod, i think i fix it02:30
kenthomsonMuffY, what are you going to do now?02:30
kenthomson:)02:30
nnNineTeen67Come1: enjoy!02:31
archieslacker it breezy list02:31
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MuffYkenthomson, i really think it has something to do with my graphics card (though i have no arguments/knowledge to back this up)02:31
kenthomsonMuffY, pop-in the ubuntu live CD and lets do some troubleshooting! :)02:31
MuffYi don;t know02:31
hexidigitalMuffY::  that happens to me... i had to download the alternative .iso, and install from there... also, Kubuntu installed no problem w/ my system, so i think it's a gnome thing02:31
archieoops sorry :)02:31
slacker_nlarchie: yw02:31
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slacker_nlarchie: no its not ;)02:31
kenthomsonMuffY, boot the liveCD up, and lets see what we can do02:31
MuffYhexidigital, you mean the text based installer?02:31
MuffYok02:31
archiethank you!!!02:31
hexidigitalMuffY::  yes02:32
kenthomsonhexidigital, thats a harsh comment, that the problem is a GNOME thing02:32
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mmzincybercod,  are u there my steam get an ERROR02:32
hexidigitalkenthomson::  KDE had no problems, i haven't been able to figure anything else... so, 1+1=...02:32
MuffYkenthomson, hexidigital, make love, not war =p02:32
hexidigitalMuffY::  :-P02:32
MiniJames3?02:33
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hexidigitalkenthomson::  nothing against Gnome, but i feel it is Gnome specific02:33
kenthomsonMiniJames, no he means 11 :)02:33
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MiniJamesnah 1+1 = a window ;)02:33
kitsune1cybercod : cant find a way to install nvidis drivers through command line on live cd02:33
MiniJameswindows...02:33
cybercodkenthomson... did you get wine to work right with that?02:33
mmzincybercod, Steam.exe (main exception): Unable to start Steam Engine: *SteamStarEngine(0x750ba8) faled with error 200: Connection Reset, WinSock Error 10054 "Connection reset by peer"02:33
kenthomsoncybercod, yeah wine worked, but i cant configure shockwave to work correctly, can you help?02:34
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cybercodsorry ken.. no ... my braincells are misfiring... its dawn here02:34
basvghff, there's no ipod-sharp package in the repositories is there02:34
hexidigitalkitsune1::  sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx (or appropriate binary) && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable  -- then restart X02:34
kenthomsoncybercod, :(02:34
cybercod!nvidia02:34
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:34
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hexidigitaleh... i forgot about that02:35
nnaww she loveses me02:35
nn*squeals then pulls dirt over his coffin*02:35
fotoflo_nn: i rebooted and that all worked02:35
kitsune1hmm ok but were do i put the drivers first coz i havent go ubuntu installed yet its runnin of live cd02:35
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MuffYkenthomson, live CD is up =)02:35
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nnfotoflo_: good stuff02:35
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fotoflo_err rather, my modified fstab worked02:35
fotoflo_i have a wierd problem though02:36
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fotoflo_im running apache, but it dosnt show up in ps -A02:36
hexidigitalfotoflo_::  what about httpd?02:36
MuffYkenthomson: please tell me you're still here O_o02:36
fotoflo_no02:37
kenthomsonMuffY, open a terminal and type "mkdir ~/ubuntuPartition"02:37
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MuffYk02:37
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_0mk4r_how to convert all mp3 files to ogg q2?02:37
fotoflo_hexidigital, thats what i mean ps -A |grep httpd comes up empty02:37
nnfotoflo_: i usually use ps auwwx|grep httpd02:37
nnor apache202:37
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kenthomsonMuffY, after that open gparted and see on what HDD and partition ubuntu resides and tell me02:37
kitsune1hexidigital : hmm ok but were do i put the drivers first coz i havent go ubuntu installed yet its runnin of live cd02:37
cybercodkitsume1 first off i suggest you get a package called mined... its a text editor that works pretty well in command line... so Ctrl+alt+F5 then sudo apt-get install mined02:37
hexidigitalfotoflo_::  did you just finishing installing?02:37
nnvery likely the path/etc makes it too long to show02:37
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cybercodthen ctrl+alt+F702:37
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hexidigitalkitsune1::  sorry, i assumed ubuntu was already installed... i dont know if dl-ing, then installing will work02:38
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MuffYkenthomson, ubuntu is on hda102:38
fotoflo_hexidigital: well, ive just installed it02:38
hexidigitalfotoflo_::  i mean, did you just install apache?02:38
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ZaggynlAnyone knows a tutorial for making a simple perl plugin for gaim? Can't find anything that works02:38
kenthomsonMuffY, Ubuntu is on hda and one 1=first partition right?02:38
fotoflo_but when i go to http://localhost/ it shows up02:38
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hexidigitalfotoflo_::  try sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start (or just apache, depending on version)02:38
nni'll have to check out mined, i personally use joe02:39
hexidigitalhmm02:39
MuffYkenthomson, i installed in on hda1, and yes, first partition (only partition)02:39
nnbut i grew up wif wordstar02:39
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kenthomsonMuffY, ok02:39
MuffYhda102:39
kitsune1hexidigital : this is what i get when i run live cd to try and install ubuntu02:39
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kitsune1hexidigital : http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00184xw2.jpg02:39
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cybercodi got mined when i was in a jam.. and i like it ... i've not looked for a better one02:39
fotoflo_hexidigital, but its running02:39
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fotoflo_i can http to localhost02:39
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cybercodmined actually has ALT menus02:39
nni really like joe.. been my favourite editor since i learned it02:40
kenthomsonMuffY, "sudo mount /dev/hda1 ~/ubuntuPartition ext3  iocharset=utf8,umask=000"02:40
nni really dont remember when ilearned it, either02:40
hexidigitalfotoflo_::  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload02:40
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cybercodwell, i've been on linux less than 4 months.. so i'm sure I'll change my preferences over time02:40
nnprobably back in say 1999?02:40
hexidigitalkitsune1::  that is real wierd... newer video card, i assume?02:40
nnthe keybindings are a bit odd, but once you learn them, very fast02:41
phoswhat is edgy support like for intel core2?02:41
mamzers555can somebody tell me, what extension i have to install to get a menu in nautilus that give me the option to encrypt files with gpg?02:41
MuffYkenthomson, isn't it ISO charset? (just asking :))02:41
kitsune1hexidigital : nvidia xfx geforce 6600 gt02:41
kenthomsonMuffY, no02:41
nncybercod: yea, you'll find what you prefer most02:41
MuffYkenthomson, ok02:41
nncybercod: i've just 'always' used joe, so no realy reason or desire to change02:41
cybercodi feel i'm doing ok for such a little amount of time02:41
MuffYkenthomson, it wrote a qwhole lot of things02:41
fotoflo_hexidigital, same thing, but i got an error on reload02:41
nnit's pretty small yet very featureful and effecient key bindings once you lear02:41
hexidigitalkitsune1::  you can try this... apt-get download {your driver}, then copy it to a flash drive and install it after the install02:42
kenthomsonMuffY, Dont worry "cd ~/ubuntuPartition" then "ls" Do you see "boot"?02:42
hexidigitalfotoflo_::  what error? about fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1?02:42
fotoflo_yeah02:42
fotoflo_hexidigital, server is still up but still no process02:42
kitsune1hexidigital : after install? but i cant really see anything when i put in the live cd02:43
MuffYkenthomson: bash: cd: /home/ubuntu/ubuntuPartition: No such file or directory02:43
hexidigitalfotoflo_::  dont worry about that... i have a registered FQDN, and i still get that error... i fixed it once, but dont remember how :/02:43
fotoflo_not worried about it02:43
fotoflo_im more worried that theres no HTTPD pid02:43
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hexidigitalkitsune1::  another option would be to dl the alternative cd...02:43
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kenthomsonMuffY, "sudo mkdir /media/ubuntu"02:43
fotoflo_and that i dont know where my httpd.conf is02:44
kenthomsonMuffY, "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/ubuntu/ -t ext3 -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000"02:44
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hexidigitalfotoflo_::  i dunno... httpd.conf is in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf02:44
MuffYkenthomson, it doens't print anything when i do these things, i hope that's right?02:44
kenthomsonya02:44
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kitsune1iv trdyd all cd the llink of pici sent u is from 6.06 but when i put in the new 6.10 before ubuntu boots the screen goes black and says video mode not supported02:45
hexidigitalfotoflo_::  ps -A | grep apache02:45
kitsune1hexidigital : ^02:45
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kenthomsonMuffY, "cd /media/ubuntu"02:45
cybercod    how does one enable restricted repos with apt-get?02:46
kenthomsonMuffY, "ls" what do you get?02:46
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MuffYkenthomson, ok, did that, it printed a lot of text again, it looks like a help COMMAND thing, it explains how to use the command :/02:46
fotoflo_hexidigital, oh there it is heh02:46
fotoflo_whops02:46
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fotoflo_thanks02:46
kenthomsonMuffY, Did you go to "cd /media/ubuntu"?02:46
mmzinanyone have steam working ?02:46
MuffYkenthomson, it shows nothing02:46
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hexidigitalkitsune1::  i dunno... i wish i could help more.. liek i said, i know nothing about installing a driver *before* installing from Live02:46
fotoflo_sweet02:47
hexidigitalfotoflo_::  found it?02:47
MuffYkenthomson, yes i did, i types ls, and there is nothing02:47
kenthomsonMuffY,  go to "cd /media" then "ls" Do you have a "ubuntu" file?02:47
hexidigitalfotoflo_::  i mean apache pid?02:47
MuffYkenthomson, yes, in a nice shade of blue02:47
kitsune1:( ok m thanks for all your help02:47
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kitsune1m8*02:47
MuffYmore purple though02:47
hexidigitalkitsune1::  sorry :(02:47
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kenthomsonMuffY, "cd /ubuntu" then "ls" do you see anything?02:47
kitsune1its ok ill find some way lol02:47
cypher1is there any equivalent of cyberlink powerdvd of windows in ubuntu ?02:47
cybercodkitsume... i think there's a way... but you'd have an easier time getting the alternate install cd and installing FIRST02:48
MuffYbash says /ubuntu doesn't exist02:48
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MuffYftw02:48
kenthomsonMuffY, "sudo mkdir /media/ubuntu"02:48
MuffYit listed the $#&* partition :/02:48
kitsune1alternate?02:48
fotoflo_hexidigital, found it02:48
fotoflo_found it all02:48
fotoflo_excellent thansk02:49
hexidigitalkitsune1::  if you are not pressed on time, you could download the server .iso, and when that finishes installing (and if you can see your screen), you can sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop && sudo aptitude install nvidia-{your driver}02:49
MuffYbash: cannot create directory '/media/ubuntu': File exists02:49
kenthomsonMuffY, after that "cd /media" then "cd /ubuntu"02:49
MuffYffftttwwwwww02:49
hexidigitalfotoflo_::  :) glad to help02:49
kenthomsonMuffY, "cd /media/ubuntu" what do you get?02:49
MuffYkenthomson, it still says ubuntu isn't there02:49
kitsune1hmm:( me n00b lol02:50
MuffYoh wait02:50
MuffYi'm in02:50
MuffYkenthomson, it works =)02:50
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cybercodkitsume...  did you get mined?02:50
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MuffYkenthomson, i'm in /media/ubuntu now02:50
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kenthomsonMuffY, "ls" any output?02:50
MuffYno02:51
hexidigitalkitsune1::  heh.. being a n00b is what makes learning fun :)02:51
kitsune1lol ok m802:51
fotoflo_I just want to say that this channel is great! i went into another linux channel recently and someone told me to to "dd /dev/zero /dev/hda"02:51
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fotoflo_everyone is so helpful here, really sweet02:51
MuffYfotoflo_, hahahahaha02:51
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cybercodkitsune...did you get the package "mined"?02:51
MuffYpoor ypu02:51
kitsune1maybe please u can show me what to download02:51
MuffYyou didn't do it right?02:51
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kitsune1cant find it really lol02:51
fotoflo_no of course not02:51
MuffYwho knows =p02:51
hexidigitalfotoflo_::  what channel was that?!02:52
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kitsune1ok found it02:52
kitsune1mined02:52
MuffYkenthomson, ls doesn't give any output02:52
kenthomsonMuffY, "df -h" what do you see?02:52
fotoflo_i havent used linux in about 10 years, but i still have a basic idea of how things work02:52
cybercodkitsume install that and we'll use it to edit your sources.list02:52
kitsune1on windows?02:52
rich232how do I edit menu.lst if its write protected and root doent work02:52
MuffYkenthomson, i see a lot of things, want me to type it over?02:52
unfunHow do I know if i'm using kde or gnome?02:52
cybercodno..in the live cd session02:52
kenthomsonMuffY, paste it in #kensworld02:53
kitsune1ok were should i download and put it?02:53
kitsune1in were lol02:53
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cybercodno... you need to get it from apt-get02:53
fotoflo_then they kicked me when i told them to type "/part #channel" in order to gain instant ops02:53
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cybercodsudo apt-get install mined02:53
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kitsune1apt-get ?02:54
kitsune1lol02:54
cybercodok... get out yer pen and paper02:54
kitsune1ok02:54
cybercodcan unregistered nicks pm eachother?02:54
hexidigitalcybercod::  i dont think so02:54
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cybercodwell, you guys watch me.. make sure i make no typos here02:55
kitsune1:)02:55
cybercodready kitsune?02:55
kitsune1yes02:55
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cybercodwrite all these instructions down and I'll tell you when to begin using them02:56
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kitsune1hmm ok02:56
anjue...02:56
=== hexidigital needs another beer... had to drink /root/beer on the 31st :(
anjueah..............02:56
anjueI need some help02:56
anjueabout apt-proxy02:56
cybercodkitsume   first press Ctrl+alt+F5 and then put in ubuntu for the username and there is no password on the live disk02:57
richeehehehe02:57
richee/root/beer02:57
richeesame here02:57
cybercodnext02:57
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hexidigitalrichee::  glad someone found it funny :)02:57
cybercodonce you're logged in should be ubuntu@ubuntu or something like that02:58
kitsune1ok02:58
cybercodat this point  type             sudo apt-get install mined02:58
linuxeatswindowsI did to hexidigital but I just woke up so Im hesitant at typing02:58
richeehexidigital: heheheh02:58
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HawkeVanyone know anything about ubuntu pxe booting?02:58
hexidigitallinuxeatswindows::  heh... i hate when i wake up before my fingers02:59
cybercodonce that finishes, come back by pressing Ctrl+alt+F7 and let me know that it worked or not02:59
cybercodkitsune  go ahead and do that now02:59
fotoflo_hexidigital, mkbeer /usr/fridge02:59
kitsune1ok but were do i put the mined file i just downloaded in? im in windows02:59
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cybercodyou need to be logged into the live disk to do this... narf03:00
hexidigitalfotoflo_::  ./configure beer && make drink && make drink consume03:00
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kitsune1ok but how whould it find the mined file i downloaded in windows03:00
fotoflo_if it were only that easy03:00
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bmhmhi all03:01
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Barghestare linux newbies welcome here?03:01
cybercodyou wouldn't... apt-get will download it... problem is03:01
HawkeVguess that's a no then =/03:01
bmhm=>> sdptool browse 00:12:47:AD:FE:5303:01
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bmhmwon't show me anything03:01
cybercodproblem is you won't be able to talk to us because of your errors03:01
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kitsune1lol ok03:01
cybercodand coming back in here will nullify getting mined because it will just be in ram-drive03:01
kenthomsoncybercod, How do i access Ubuntu's (on HDD) FileSystem from a Ubuntu LIve CD?03:02
cybercodso wait03:02
bmhmno output, why? =>> sdptool browse 00:12:47:AD:FE:5303:02
cybercodlemme get you more instructions first03:02
unfunHow do I remove gnome?03:02
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kenthomsoncybercod, assume liveCD is running and Ubuntu FS (the one on HDD) is on hda103:02
cybercodcancel out the CTRL+ALT+F7 part03:02
HawkeVmkdir /mnt/ubuntu; mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubuntu03:02
fotoflo_hexidigital, hey what was that url you sent me a little while ago? it had alot of useful stuff on it03:02
kitsune1ok03:02
bmhmno output, why? =>> sdptool browse 00:12:47:AD:FE:5303:02
Barghesthow do I get another machine to share my current Linux machine's internet connection?03:02
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BloodHunterhey03:03
hexidigitalfotoflo_::  url for what? (i dont remember)03:03
HawkeVbmhm, repeatedly asking the same thing is just going to get you /ignored man03:03
bmhmok sorry03:03
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BloodHunterGOt one Question ;D03:03
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ZaggynlAnyone here has experience with getting gaim plugins to work?03:03
fotoflo_it was like how to do a million things in ubuntu03:03
BloodHunterUbuntu is much more fast when i install it on harddrive, then running it with VMware?03:03
fotoflo_maybe it was someone else who sent it to me03:03
HawkeVBloodHunter, yes03:03
kenthomsonBloodHunter, absolutely03:03
BloodHunterhm03:03
BloodHuntercan i cut a half of a partition of windows? :D03:04
hexidigitalfotoflo_::  i dont think that was me that sent that link... lemme look in my sent messages.. hang on one sec03:04
ZaggynlBloodHunter, possible, but better not do that03:04
cybercodnext step will be to type in                       mined /etc/apt/sources.list03:04
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BloodHunteri mean, make the partition smaller03:04
kitsune1cybercod : ubuntu works nicely in VMware03:04
ZaggynlBloodHunter, yup03:04
kitsune1ok03:04
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fotoflo_dont bother03:04
HawkeVBloodHunter, you could use pqmagic from within windows03:04
fotoflo_ill look at my history03:04
cybercodaaaaaahh...03:04
neutrinomasshow do I play .ram files ?03:04
HawkeVor if you're technically inclined, boot a livecd and use parted03:04
BloodHuntercan i install ubuntu while i have win xp online? since i dont have a burner :P03:05
HawkeVBloodHunter, no03:05
hexidigitalfotoflo_::  yep, definitely wasn't me :)03:05
BloodHuntershit03:05
hexidigital!ohno03:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ohno - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:05
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hexidigital!language03:05
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:05
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kitsune1:)03:05
HawkeVso, anyone know if ubuntu's installer has an option similar to anaconda's linux askmethod?03:06
cybercodyou're gonna look for sources that end in "restricted" and remove the # in front of them03:06
Infeliz!sensitive|hexidigital03:06
adaptrJanuary 1st... seems like the perfect time to upgrade to edgy03:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sensitive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:06
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CheshireVikingfotoflo: was it this link? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy03:06
Infelizshiiieet03:06
BloodHunterlast question ;D can i connect from ubuntu to a win xp remote computer?03:06
cybercodyou'll need to save the file03:06
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HawkeVBloodHunter, depends what you mean03:06
HawkeVbut the short answer is 'yes'03:07
cybercodthen you'll want to type in          sudo apt-get update03:07
BloodHunterk03:07
adaptrBloodHunter: connect in what way ? I know of at least 2 dozen I can use03:07
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fotoflo_CheshireViking, yeah! thanks03:07
BloodHunteri mean like use it to control the comp :P03:07
hexidigital!coc03:07
ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/03:07
hexidigitalbah03:07
fotoflo_bookmarked03:07
adaptrBloodHunter: rdesktop03:07
hexidigitalsorry03:07
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BloodHunterright03:08
CheshireVikingfotoflo_: your welcome03:08
BloodHunterthx03:08
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cybercodthen you're gonna type in             sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx03:08
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BloodHunterahhh got another question :P03:08
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BloodHunterdoes ubuntu automatically install the drivers for graphics card, mainboard and so on, or i have to do that myself03:09
adaptrWow.. it's gonna fetch like.. 1585 files to upgrade03:09
HawkeVBloodHunter, heh, most of them, yes03:09
adaptrBloodHunter: what video card do you have ?03:09
HawkeVif you've got some sort of whack hardware03:09
BloodHunterGeforce 7900gt03:09
HawkeVyou may need to do some legwork03:09
cybercodnext you'll type in            sudo nvidia-glx-config enable03:09
fotoflo_god this system is a pain in the bollocks03:09
bjames_hi all, firstly sorry for the stupid question, but does anyone know if I *need* to install an X server on a machine that's only going to be used via Xming logon?03:09
HawkeVfor nvidia stuff, you'll need to do what cybercod is currently talking about03:09
kenthomson cybercod, How do i access Ubuntu's (on HDD) FileSystem from a Ubuntu LIve CD?03:09
kenthomsoncybercod, assume liveCD is running and Ubuntu FS (the one on HDD) is on hda103:09
adaptrBloodHunter: enable all repos and fetch restricted-modules for your kernel.. that includes the nvidia closed source driver, and you're all set03:09
BloodHunterhow? :P03:10
cybercodand at this point you should be able to hit CTRL+ALT+F7 and get graphical interface back up with the new drivers03:10
HawkeVkenthomson, mkdir /mnt/ubuntu; mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubuntu03:10
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HawkeVin a console03:10
adaptrBloodHunter: go to system -> synaptic and search for restricted-modules03:10
BloodHunterkk03:10
adaptr!nvidia | BloodHunter03:10
ubotuBloodHunter: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:10
slacker_nl!avisplit03:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about avisplit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:11
bjames_Bloodhunter: can I recommend a more appropriate channel?  "try /join nvidia"03:11
slacker_nl!avi > slacker_nl03:11
bjames_"/join nvidia" without the quotes03:11
adaptrbjames_: is that Ubuntu-specific ?03:11
cybercodonce you are at this point you should be able to install like normal... though I'd appreciate it if you start up GAIM and come tell us if it worked before starting the install.03:11
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cybercoddid you get all of that kitsune1?03:11
bjames_no, but it's the right place to go for support installing the prebuilt binaries03:11
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bjames_just an idea03:12
kenthomsonHawkeV, ok03:12
adaptrbjames_: well, IIRC Ubuntu has some builtin "logic" to help you do this, so why not Google for it ?03:12
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kitsune1hmmm ok m8 thanks a million for your help ill try my best lol03:12
adaptrbjames_: it's at least 3 times easier than using nvidia's guidelines...03:12
Plintyhow can I mount a remove storage device (an mp3 player, which acts like a removable hard drive with FAT file system (not FAT32))03:12
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bjames_adaptr: ?03:12
cybercodhey kitsune03:12
kitsune1yes03:12
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adaptrbjames_: you have to do at least 3 distinct things to get the vanilla nvidia binary to work, and Ubuntu pretty much does them for you03:13
bjames_I've installed Nvidia drivers before - the best place I found was form the Ubuntu getting started guide, but that's just my experience03:13
kenthomsonHawkeV, How do i give read/write access to that partition you just mounted?03:13
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cybercodif you can start up the live cd in VMware, perhaps you can check the syntax of this stuff before trying it for real03:13
HawkeVit should be read/write by default03:13
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HawkeVunless you mean to any user03:13
adaptrbjames_: indeed, but it differs enough from the "official" nvidia way that newcomers probably don't want to be confused by it03:14
bjames_anywho, does anyone have a clue about my question?03:14
kenthomsonok03:14
klausHello, with autofs i have probs automounting floppy - is autofs the right way ? or do i have to use udev? i am using edgy .... has anybody any ideas ?03:14
adaptrbjames_: what was it ? :)03:14
kitsune1hmm gd idea03:14
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HawkeVif you mean the latter, pmount may be a better idea, alternatively, you could pass -o umask=000 to mount, which should give everyone full access to every file03:14
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bjames_adaptr: I have Ubuntu server set up running SSH and SAMBA as a fileserver - do I need to install an X server on the machine in order to run graphical programs remotely (via Xming)03:14
cybercodbjames someone was in here earlier that was using an ubuntu-minimal installation with no x03:14
bjames_adaptr: I asked this over in "xorg", but none of them knew exactly03:15
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adaptrbjames_: ah I see it - well, you *need* the libraries so that X clients can connect to your remote X server, and AFAIK they're only fully installed when you do the full Xorg installation.. you should just go with xorg and tell it not to start up a local X server automatically03:15
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bjames_adaptr: cheers, I'll try and figure out how to do that03:16
adaptrbjames_: it is mnore relevant to tell your display manager (xdm, gdm, kdm) to do the right things, like A. not start the local X server, and B. open up XDMCP to network requests03:16
bjames_adaptr: have you had any experience with Xming?03:16
adaptrbjames_: so, gdm config, not so much Xorg config03:16
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cyrus4hey   im new to ubuntu,  ive installed the nvidia drivers or whatever   just wondering if n e one knows y my screen saver and other full screen video apps are like  stuttering...  its v annoying03:17
adaptrbjames_: I tried it a while back, and if you just set an Ubuntu desktop to allow remote X, it works pretty much out of the box... haven't had that much luck with a remote server though03:17
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adaptrcyrus4: that means you do *not* actually have the nvidia drivers functioning.. run "glxinfo | grep direct" as root03:17
hexidigitalcyrus4::  did you restart your GUI? (if not, log out, and press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)03:17
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bjames_adaptr: I'm pretty much a newcomer, so to be clear I need to    1) install x- server?    2) somehow edit the startup scripts(? ) to prevent it starting into gdm03:18
hexidigitalcyrus4::  or, you may have to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg and select the proper newly installed driver03:18
kitsune1cybercod : thanks alot m8 for ur help im away to try it03:18
alecjwcyrus4: and have you told x to use the nvidia drivers?03:18
cyrus4yep yep  my mate set it up for me couple of days ago   everything should be sweet and i have a 6600GT   but cant play videos and stuff fullscreen without stutter03:18
klaushey nobody here with any idea ?  with autofs i have probs automounting floppy - is autofs the right way ? or do i have to use udev? i am using edgy03:18
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kitsune1ill come bk later on and tell u how far i got03:19
fotoflo_whats the chmod to make a script runnable?03:19
kitsune1thanks agian m803:19
cybercodkitsune1... i forgot... once you get back into graphical by hitting Ctrl+alt+F7 do a Ctrl+alt+Backspace to restart the GUI03:19
kenthomsonHawkeV,  mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubuntu  -o umask=000, gives full access right?03:19
alecjwcyrus4: just to make sure, what happens if you type the command "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nvidia" (sans quotes) in the terminal?03:19
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richeehi narasim_703:20
narasim_7Hi03:20
adaptrbjames_: halfway there.. you do need to install X, yes - it's called xorg-server or something, but you do want to start a display manager - it just should not start  the X server.03:20
LameBMXKenSentMe, that should give no axxess03:20
bjames_adaptr: ok03:20
LameBMXim pretty sure umask uses same string as chmod03:20
HawkeVLameBMX, no, the way umask works03:20
adaptrbjames_: connecting to a remote X machine is done with the XDMCP protocol, which is part of the display manager - gdm in Ubuntu's default case03:20
narasim_7gnomesystemtools like users and groups , services etc dont ask for password anymore ... Is this happening to anyone ?03:20
bjames_in which case does it matter which I choose?03:20
HawkeVis the reverse to what you're thinking03:20
HawkeV777 - umask03:20
HawkeV022 would give you03:21
HawkeV75503:21
bjames_adaptr: (it'll probably be gdm)03:21
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HawkeVor root r/w, world read/execute03:21
HawkeV000 = 77703:21
HawkeVwhich is world r/w03:21
cyrus4alecjw: yer   Driver     "nvidia"03:21
LameBMXthen then why dont umask=222 give me write access on a ntfs drive03:21
adaptrbjames_: a little more technical: it is actually gdm that "tells" the X system to use the local X server as the users' display - but it could as well be a remote display03:21
alecjwcyrus4: that's starnge... can't help0 you then, sorry.03:21
HawkeVbecause you are a retard and you just ignored what i said03:21
cyrus4thx n e ways :)03:21
adaptrHawkeV: keep it nice03:21
HawkeV777-222 = 55503:22
bjames_adaptr: I'll tell you the whole story, just for clarity.  I'm thinking of setting up a fileserver and at the moment I've installed Ubuntu server 6.06 on VMware and had a "play"03:22
HawkeVor read/execute for everyone03:22
HawkeVadaptr, rgr03:22
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LameBMXand HawkeV is more likeyly right im a n00b and just goin but guesses based on what ive fiddled wit03:22
adaptrbjames_: I'm running 606LTS as a file/web/mail/whatever server here, it's a beaut03:22
bjames_adaptr: what I want ideally is a minimalist install on hardware but that I can log into using Xming03:22
rich232what line do I add in menu.lst so that startup starts at 1600 by 1200?03:22
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HawkeVLameBMX, basically, umask=022 would give root r/w, but no-one else03:22
HawkeVfwiw03:22
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adaptrbjames_: that =kinda contradicts itself.. you won't have a minimalist install when X is possible03:22
bjames_adaptr: it was easy enough to set up so I'm happy with it so far on VMware - will be moving to hardware in a week or so03:23
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adaptrbjames_: do you know what hardware ?03:23
LameBMXi think i wound up using the wordy version anyways03:23
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LameBMX:)03:23
bjames_adaptr: well temporarily a PIII 450, 1G RAM 40G HDD03:23
adaptr(running on HP Netserver E800 dual P3 here - it was kind of a "steal".. :)03:23
ZaggynlHmm I can't download the gaim source with 'sudo apt-get source gaim'03:23
adaptrbjames_: 1GB of ram is in-sa-neey :)03:24
Zaggynlhttp://pastebin.ca/29913203:24
LameBMXlike i said HawkeV ... if something dont work the first time ... i just try different things till it does (after backing up of course)03:24
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HawkeVLameBMX, i like that method of learning =)03:24
LameBMXor in the case of xorg almost have memorized03:24
HawkeVgoogle+trial&error == win03:24
lipeI need some help, to install qt 4.1.4, please !!!03:24
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adaptrbjames_: mine has 256, and it uses about 160 of that with samba, Postfix, apache, mysql, named, mailscanner etc. running03:24
bjames_adaptr: well I don't know what to do relaly my *main* PC (Windows box) has an AMD x2 3800 3G RAM 400G HDDs so I was going to doneate some RAM from that03:24
LameBMXyea .. i remember things better lol03:24
adaptrbjames_: not possible, believe me03:25
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HawkeVdum-de-dum03:25
LameBMXall this talk about how stable nix is .. and i crash my box about 10 times a day ..03:25
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HawkeVlol03:25
HawkeVlinux is stable in a server environment03:25
LameBMXyea i understand03:25
lipeI need some help, to install qt 4.1.4, please !!!03:25
bjames_adaptr: I might not donate any RAM at all as I have 128 + 256 sticks on the PIII mobo03:25
LameBMXcrap about 3 years ago when i got my first computer ... windows installs didnt last a day03:25
dannyhi guys I just wanted to know if there was any project in the near future to create a new sub distro for tablets, ex : Tubuntu..  that would be nice, spcially since more and more students are getting tablets...03:26
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adaptrbjames_: a P3 uses single rate SDRAM, at 133MHz max., while an AMD 64 uses DDR SDRAM at 266MHz minimum - they're not ecxactly compatible03:26
LameBMXi could prolly resurrect about half of those now but dont really matter its how i learn03:26
bjames_adaptr: to be honest I've not looked at the RAM to see if they are compatible so probably03:26
narasim_7the power management in Kubuntu Control center does not work properly for me..it always becomes 2 hrs eventhugh i set it to 2 minutes ...03:26
bjames_oops03:26
HawkeVtubuntu...03:26
lillyhow do i forcefully unmount a mounted image?03:26
narasim_7any ideas?03:26
HawkeVis it bad that that gives me bad mental images?03:26
adaptrbjames_: 384 is  more than enough for the foreseeable future03:26
bjames_adaptr: good good03:26
HawkeVlilly, umount -l /mounted/thingy03:26
LameBMXbeen using a computer for all of 3 years and now i work fixing them03:26
HawkeVthat's an ehl, not a one03:26
lillyHawkeV: ok03:26
HawkeVstands for lazy unmount03:27
adaptrbjames_: things you *do* want in a server are: 1. ECC memory, if you can get it, and 2. redundant storage.03:27
HawkeVand it should do what you want03:27
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lipeI need some help, to install qt 4.1.4, please !!!03:27
adaptrbjames_: 1. is a nice option to have, but 2. is non-negotiable - use a mirrored system disk at least03:27
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sukarncan someone tell me how to build raid arrays (mdadm)? I have a single hard drive (80 GB) from weston digital. I am using 7.04 (testing), and there seems to be some problem with raid arrays in mdadm, causing initramfs-tools to fall back to emergency procedures. while i am able to boot with these kernels, the boot process is very slow, login takes a lot of time, and hard drive activity causes a lot of cpu usage03:27
HawkeVadaptr, you only want ECC if your processor is compatible with it03:27
bjames_adaptr: the thing is I was thinking of long-term - I kind of want a system with RAID (when I feel brave enough) and I was wondering if it's possible to have it spin down the HDDs so they don't get too much wear and then use a large RAM buffer and only spin up the HDDS when needed03:27
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Grok_can anyone recommend a good cd ripper/encoder for ubunbtu/linux?03:27
HawkeVotherwise you'll run into more underlying issues03:27
lipeI need some help, to install qt 4.1.4, please !!!03:27
DicanderI am running Ubuntu 6.10 inside a parallels virtual machine under OSX. I tried to install democracy player but got the error message dependency is not satisfiable: mozilla-dev.03:27
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hexidigitallipe::  please don't repeat... if someone know they will help... plus, you haven't described your issue03:27
adaptrHawkeV: well, strictly, it is only useful if the *mainboard* supports it, but yeah.03:28
adaptrHawkeV: ECC support is not dependent on the CPU03:28
hexidigitalGrok_::  soundjuicer is pretty easy to use + efficient from what i have done03:28
HawkeVtrue, some CPUs do require it tho03:28
DicanderWhen I tried to install it using apt I got the message "mozilla-dev" has no release candidate and they suggested that I install libnspr-dev instead. I did, but the error remained. Does anyone know what I might try?03:28
HawkeVwoodcrest/opteron to name a couple03:28
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sukarnDicander: type in a terminal - sudo apt-get install mozilla-dev03:28
pegger_xubuntu or ubuntu?03:28
phr34ckWhere could I find this package: sun-java5-jre ?03:28
Grok_hexidigital, thanks i'll check it out03:28
lipehexidigital: I need to install qt 4.1.4 with an archive .tar.gz, and i need someone help for it ...03:29
HawkeVimpe, putting ECC registered ram in a box with a cpu that doesn't need it just causes headaches03:29
adaptrbjames_: RAID requires no courage - only money :) if you use Linux softraid it works fast, simple, and very very dependably03:29
hexidigitallipe::  ok... so, you're compling from source code?03:29
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adaptrbjames_: for a server, spinning down the HDs is not an option.03:29
LameBMXoh wait i  do have a reboot issue .. ill brb with a screenie of my error ... now this one tends to happen if i hit enter in grub too fast .. like <=10 secs ....03:29
HawkeVswraid... dependable03:29
vanbergeanybody can recommend a good front end to scp?  :-)03:29
bjames_adaptr: yeah I've heard it's faster than hardware RAID in most cases03:29
lipehexidigital: yes ... src ...03:29
bjames_RAID 5 would be ideal03:29
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LameBMXbjames_, fakeraid .. is a pain in the butt .. but it works too ... eventually03:29
hexidigitalok, one sec03:30
HawkeVbjames_, swraid 0 or 1 maybe03:30
HawkeVswraid anything else is neither fast or reliable03:30
sukarnDicander: do you have all the repos enabled?03:30
LameBMXspeakin of which how can i add to a wiki or whatever ?03:30
adaptrbjames_: well, it's obviously not, if you use decent hardware.. but it is a lot less expensive, and it can combine drives from any type of interface03:30
bulmervanverge: on konqueror there is fish:///03:30
hexidigitallipe::  first, make sure you have dependencies.. "sudo apt-get build-dep qt4-dev-tools03:30
alecjwLameBMX: sign up to thw wiki, and click on edit at he top of the page. to make a new page, go tho that page and click on "make new page"03:30
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adaptrbjames_: the last one is really the most important - if you get, say, 4 drives on a 4-drive RAID card, then that's it - you cannot expand beyond it, and if you decide to put in another 4x card then you'd get 2 arrays at best - with softraid you just set up all 8 drives to give you RAID 10 or 5 or 50 or whatever03:31
Dicandersukarn: I tried that and got: The package is not available but another package refers to it. This package might replace it: libnspr-dev. Mozilla-dev has no release candidate (rough translation from the actual Swedish messages i got)03:31
adaptrbjames_: whether RAID5 is ideal really depends on what you're going to use it for03:31
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hexidigitallipe::  then extract the archive -- "tar zxvf {qt.tar.gz file name}, then ./configure, then sudo make, then sudo make install03:31
lipehexidigital: : Package xlibmesa-gl-dev has no installation candidate03:31
HawkeVadaptr, raid10 swraid ain't gonna happen03:31
adaptrbjames_: in terms of pure storage, yes - it is03:31
HawkeVif it worked, it would be slow03:32
hexidigitallipe::  that *could* be a problem... not definitely, though03:32
LameBMXahhh so i have to create a wiki account too03:32
adaptrHawkeV: don't be silly - it's standard on 2.6 kernels03:32
lipehexidigital: huhmm. how can i solve that ?!03:32
HawkeVadaptr, you're on crack bro03:32
HawkeV2.6 supports natively, 0,1,3,5 and possibly 603:32
sukarncan anyone help me with what I said a while ago? -03:32
sukarncan someone tell me how to build raid arrays (mdadm)? I have a single hard drive (80 GB) from weston digital. I am using 7.04 (testing), and there seems to be some problem with raid arrays in mdadm, causing initramfs-tools to fall back to emergency procedures. while i am able to boot with these kernels, the boot process is very slow, login takes a lot of time, and hard drive activity causes a lot of cpu usage03:32
lipehexidigital: maybe adding another repository ??03:32
bjames_adaptr: well I like RAID 5 as a balance between fault tolerance and speed, however thinking about it striping (RAID 1?) might be better as it'll be accedd over a wireless network therefore wont need the speed03:32
hexidigitallipe::  you can try to ./configure it w/o downloading dependencies, and see what you need03:32
HawkeVsure, you can mirror then stripe two md's03:32
bjames_accessed*03:32
adaptrHawkeV: it won't actually increase performance over raid-5 i software, since you'd have to run raid 0 on top of raid 1 , but it is certainly possible03:32
HawkeVbut i've never seen it done03:32
LameBMXwell all i was going to do is put how i used 2 wiki's to install fakeraid with dmraid in guimode .. but it used a non guimode for install lol03:33
Dicandersukarn: No I haven't enabled any non-default repos. How do I do that?03:33
adaptrHawkeV: please stop talking out of your rear end :)03:33
LameBMX:/03:33
HawkeVadaptr, heh03:33
lipehexidigital: i already tryied it, but qt isn't installed correctly03:33
HawkeVadaptr, do you have any life experience in a real environment with raid, or is this just what you read on google?03:33
HawkeV\03:33
bjames_adaptr: I've read a bit about RAID and it seems simple enough to set up in Linux03:33
lipehexidigital: i think that my qt is 3.x.x ... and after compiling it, it continues the same03:33
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sukarnDicander: the package is in the universe repositories03:34
fotoflo_hmm03:34
hexidigitallipe::  you can "sudo apt-cache search qt" *replace qt with any dependencies you need to find packages that match03:34
HawkeVbecause, given my own experience with RAID implementations in a server environment, i'd be forced to mock anyone who actually considered using swraid for anything that they wanted to be either reliable or reduntant03:34
bjames_adaptr: basically I want a VERY reliable box that I can sit in a cupboard and not worry too much about, but I'd like to be able to compile stuff with it every now and again03:34
sukarnDicander: type in a terminal - gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list03:34
fotoflo_so what needs to happen for a cgi to run on apache?03:34
lipehexidigital: lemme try it, thx u very much !03:34
fotoflo_ive chmod 555'ed the script03:34
HawkeVbjames_, buy yourself a cheap raid card from newegg03:34
adaptrHawkeV: what do you mean by real life experience ? I run about 50 HP proliant servers with any thinkable combination of raid and hardware controllers, including a cluster setup with a fully redundant MSA1500 w/ 14x 72GB Ultra320 on fibre channel03:34
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hexidigitallipe::  hope it helps :)03:35
fotoflo_but i still get forbidden03:35
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sukarnDicander: then uncomment (remove #) the lines that say universe03:35
Dicandersukarn: Thanks. I'll try that03:35
adaptrbjames_: yes, md raid is very easy to set up - you can even let Ubuntu server do it for you while installing03:35
bjames_Hawkev: how cheap is cheap though?  I think software RAID is probably right for me03:35
adaptrbjames_: that's what I did - mine is running off 2x 36GB ultra160 on an adaptec card03:35
HawkeVadaptr, then you should well know that swraid doesn't fly in that environment03:36
sukarnDicander: you'll need to do a "sudo apt-get update" before you can inatall mozilla-dev03:36
adaptrHawkeV: what environment ? what are you talking about ?03:36
HawkeVbjames_, a cheap card starts at $7003:36
HawkeVtho, I wouldn't vouch for exactly how reliable it would be03:36
bjames_you see that's not really "cheap" compared to what I'm looking at shelling out for the rest of the HW03:36
adaptrbjames_: if the choice is between Linux md RAID and a fakeraid card, forget the card - it's useless03:36
HawkeVyou could pick up a 3ware 7500 for about 15003:36
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adaptrbjames_: a *real* RAID controller will start at around $300, for 4 SATA channels03:37
sukarndoes no one have any idea how to build a raid array? i'm not really sure what i have to do here. i'm using a single HDD, and mdadm is causing some problems03:37
sukarni don't even know what RAID is03:37
bjames_adaptr: exactly!03:37
HawkeVsukarn, why do you want to build a raid array with a single hdd?03:37
adaptrbjames_: but that will also give you on-board cache RAM and battery backup - which is a little more than you need for  a home setup03:37
sukarnsee my thread here - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32689403:37
bjames_adaptr: I can get an SATA mobo for 30 (~$45) and software RAID a lot easier!03:38
sukarni've explained everything there03:38
lipehexidigital: hexi ... i need to compile it in a especific directory ??03:38
adaptrbjames_: I thought you already had the board ? you mentioned a P3 450 somewhere back03:38
alecjwsukarn: RAID makes 2 hard drives act as one03:38
hexidigitallipe::  no... it'll find the directories it needs03:38
fotoflo_how do i get a cgi script to work in a apache?03:38
bjames_RAID = redundant array of inexpensive disks - it's a way to either make your storage FASTER, MORE RELIABLE or both03:39
adaptrfotoflo_: #apache03:39
fotoflo_ok03:39
HawkeVsukarn, that error is normal03:39
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HawkeVit's not detrimental to your system in anyway03:39
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LameBMXokay here is my too quick of boot error ... drumroll pleeze .... http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0016kz7.jpg03:39
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HawkeVit's just starting the md drivers, and since you don't have raid, is flagging a warning03:39
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lord_ceiphasi have a problem to teach my edgy eft that my mouse has 12 buttons, not only 903:39
sukarnok, then i wonder why its causing so much CPU usage and HDD slowdown. it never appeared before, and i've not had such slow performance with such high CPU usage03:39
HawkeVsukarn, you sure the slowdown is md related?03:40
bjames_adaptr: here's the evolution of my fileserver - VMware setup to test (current), PIII 450 hardware (next step - when I get back to the flat), hardware X (when I get round to upgrading so I can use SATA HDDs possibly)03:40
adaptrsukarn: good point; run dstat while doing disk-related things to see what causes the slowdown03:40
sukarni think it is, and the other guy in the thread also said he'd been having slow downs with the same warning.03:40
adaptrbjames_: how much time between step 2 and 3 ? if it's less than say a month, it might not be worth the trouble03:41
sukarnadaptr: i'll do that just now03:41
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alecjwHawkeV: try passing noapci as a kernel argument. if you fix it, you might want ot ad the arguments spash and quiet too, to get rid of that nasty text03:41
adaptrsukarn: you may have to apt-get dstat first03:41
sukarn$ dstat03:41
sukarnbash: dstat: command not found03:41
sukarnoh ok03:41
bjames_adaptr: at the moment I'm a Windows user and want a file store with some provision to "play" with Linux03:42
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lord_ceiphasi have a problem to teach my edgy eft that my mouse has 12 buttons, not only 903:42
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bjames_adaptr: I'll probably install a "minimal" X-install for now and use the PIII hardware with my current PATA drives03:43
bjames_thanks one and all for the info/advice03:43
hexidigitallord_ceiphas::  heh.. .i have a problem teaching dapper that i have 5 buttons :-P03:43
adaptrbjames_: if all you want is a fileserver, why use X at all ?03:43
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lord_ceiphasvery funny.. i added the buttons in the xorg.conf, but when i run xmodmap he tells me, that there are only 9... if i look at my mouse, it HAS 1203:44
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bjames_adaptr: well this is something I'm arguing with myself, part of me wants a graphical logic from my Windows box so I can sort of ease myself into Linux (I've only ever dipped my toes in the Linux water and found it to be tepid at best, although it's getting warmer)03:44
DicanderWhere do I find gsuko?03:44
DicanderWhat package?03:44
bjames_login*03:44
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jbroomeDicander: i think you're looking for gksudo03:45
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C-O-L-THappy new year. Romania and Bulgaria joined to the EU03:45
qoshey guys... wish u a happy new year03:45
Dicanderjbroome: Thanks. :-)03:45
bjames_adaptr: (I've tried VMware - which I love, I've also dual booted, but found the sheer number of partitions can be a hastle when windows dies and decides it wants to "reclaim" the HDD behind my back, etc)03:46
sukarnI have posted the output of dstat here - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326894 at the end of the last post on the page (3rd post on the page)03:46
kenthomson!nvidia03:46
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:46
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adaptrbjames_: if you manage to set up an X login to your server it will grant you almost no visible benefit.. it is nothing like Windows in any way03:47
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ZoffixHi, my "xchat" icon disappeared from the panel :/ how can I get it back?03:47
adaptrbjames_: as a simpel home file and internet server, linux is far superior to windows03:48
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DarthLappyadaptr: As a complex server, Linux is far superior to Windows ^_^03:48
bjames_adaptr: no, no, I mean I want something that allows me to get more used to Linux in a transition from Windows completely03:48
adaptrbjames_: I run mine ona dual P3 server system because I can.. because I have it, not because it needs the hardware03:48
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adaptrbjames_: and I am trying to explain that having a GUI on a Linux server will not help with that transition in the slightest03:49
bjames_adaptr: whilst being useful in the mean time03:49
bjames_adaptr: why not?03:49
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php-freaki just burned a cd, and the data is tooken up on the cd, but i don't see the files?03:49
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adaptrbjames_: because.. it is *nothing like* Windows03:50
sukarnadaptr: I have posted the output of dstat here - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326894 at the end of the last post on the page (3rd post on the page)03:50
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adaptrsukarn: so, what does it tell you ?03:50
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alecjwphp-freak: in windows? try ejecting the cd and putting it in again03:50
bjames_adaptr: I want to get used to the Linux alternatives to Windows programs so I can transition between the two - I'm not looking to make Linux into Windows, I think we have crossed wires at some point03:50
php-freakin kubuntu03:50
HawkeVbjames_, what are you going to use the box for?03:50
HawkeVdesktop, or fileserver?03:50
alecjwphp-freak: well, still try the eject thing03:51
adaptrbjames_: I understand that, and for that, you can start by running Ubuntu in a vmware host to get used to it. But for a server, things are altogether completely different03:51
qosi ve got a problem with my freshly installed ubuntu. it just hangs during boot process ... does anyone know why this happens? i guess it has something todo with grub ...03:51
sukarnadaptr: I don't get any errors, but I cannot understand what its telling me either.03:51
php-freakI already did03:51
php-freakI burned with joliet on03:51
adaptrsukarn: dstat tells you where it is spending its time03:51
Terminusbjames_: a linux server generally doesn't have a GUI.03:51
javimansillaHow can I install lame in breezy? Does anyone knows what repository should I use?03:51
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alecjwjavimansilla: try sudo aptitude isntall gstreamer0.8-lame03:52
adaptrjavimansilla: upgrady ?03:52
alecjw*install03:52
bjames_I realise a "typical" Linux server is a headless box that sits and does it's job nice and quietly03:52
php-freaksays something about some file names need to be shorten cuase of joliet extensinos?03:52
bjames_and is normally only prodded via SSH or similar for maintenance03:52
alecjwadaptr: we ccan't sell breezy users to upgarde for another year yet :D03:52
alecjwwe can only tell warty people to upgrade03:52
qosi ve got a problem with my freshly installed ubuntu. it just hangs during boot process ... does anyone know why this happens? i guess it has something todo with grub ...03:53
adaptrbjames_: exactly.. and - perhaps contrary to your intuition - you are going to have to *start* there in order to have a swinging chance at getting a *graphical* server to work...03:53
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alecjwqos: does it show a menu?03:53
javimansillaalecjw: I tried, but seems that I dont have the right repositories, because doing aptitude search lame i got nothing03:53
javimansillaadaptr: what do you mean?03:53
qosalecjw, yes ...03:53
adaptralecjw: uhm.. why ? is breezy an LTS release then ?03:53
alecjwjavimansilla: do you know how to enable the uni/multiverse repos?03:53
bjames_adaptr: start from a graphical "Desktop" install?03:53
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jbroomeadaptr: breezy isn't a LTS.  Dapper is, so far the only lts03:54
Dicandersukarn: It still does not work. It says mozilla-dev has no release candidate.03:54
adaptrbjames_: of course you can do that, but it will need significantly more hardware03:54
Terminusbjames_: if you want to know what's useful to learn, i'd say learn how to use vi. it's probably the most generally available text editor on a linux box and you'll be using it extensively to edit configuration files.03:54
adaptrjbroome: I thought I knew that03:54
php-freakthe debug message said something about could not burn due to root?03:54
DicanderI suppose I could just download it and install it myself.03:54
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alecjwadaptr: it's not been completely discarded yet... only warty has. we can tell hoary people to upgade when feisty's released03:54
javimansillaalecjw I think yes, but I would say that I did something wrong, because I still can not have this working. can you please help me with that?03:54
php-freakhow do i burn files that are in the root?03:54
bjames_Terminus: I already use vim to edit config files03:54
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alecjwjavimansilla: and are you using ubuntu as in gnome?03:54
sukarnDicander: you'll need to do a "sudo apt-get update" before you can inatall mozilla-dev03:55
hexidigitalphp-freak::  sudo before your command/03:55
hexidigital*?03:55
javimansillaalecjw: xfce03:55
adaptralecjw: advising people to upgrade has very little to do with whether it's still supported, in  my view - Ubuntu is heavily under development, and even Dapper will have many advantages over breezy, whether breezy is EOL or not.03:55
php-freakhexidigital: I'm burning a cd?03:55
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hexidigitalphp-freak::  what program?03:55
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Terminusbjames_: oh ok.03:56
adaptralecjw: "must" upgrade vs. "can and probably should" upgrade03:56
php-freakk3b dvd & cd burning03:56
hexidigitalphp-freak::  *what program are you using?03:56
hexidigitalphp-freak::  in terminal, sudo k3b03:56
qosalecjw, there are 2 harddrives in my computer... i didn't know where to install grub (hd0 or hd1) during installation process ..03:56
alecjwjavimansilla: gksudo mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list, then add the line deb http://<countrycode (eg gb)>.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse03:56
qosalecjw, i think that has something todo with the problem03:56
cybercodgrub gets installed to primary HD03:57
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cybercodhd003:57
alecjwqos: presumably (hd0). most BIOSes bott from the first hard drive 1st03:57
ceacrohello world03:57
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MuffYthat ken thomson guy helped me out ^_^03:57
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hexidigitalheh... aren't all mcmuffins mcmuffins of doom? high cholesterol ftw03:57
php-freakhexidigital: what if it says it needs to shorten file naems because of joliet extension, and ask if i want to continue right before i get raedy to burn it?03:57
MuffY:p03:58
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sukarnadaptr: This is the raid controller of my system (I think) - 00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8251 AHCI/SATA 4-Port Controller03:58
hexidigitalphp-freak::  it's worth a shot trying, otherwise you will have to copy the file to a different directory & change the name03:58
MuffYi recently found out a McMuffin isn't like a normal muffin at all03:58
adaptrsukarn: okay...03:58
hexidigitalMuffY::  no, it has Mc before it03:58
qosmy primary hd is the one where is only one large data partition (but no ones with OS's n it). on the second one are just OS's03:58
MuffYit's some kind of mcdonalds sandwich :/03:58
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MuffYyes i know :p03:58
hexidigitalMuffY::  ah :)03:58
alecjwMuffY: shouldn't that go in #ubuntu-offtopic?03:58
bjames_I remember going to Canada once and buying a McMuffin and it had maple syrup in!03:58
MuffYoh sorry03:59
bjames_controvertial03:59
LameBMXdid it come with a gun in the bag bjames_03:59
javimansilla alecjw: just deb line, or deb-src too?03:59
sukarnadaptr: but I have no idea whether it needs any arrays to work correctly or not.03:59
alecjwjavimansilla: you can do the deb-src too, but unesss you're actually gonna use the sdources, it's rather pointless03:59
adaptrsukarn: it should never *need* an array to just access hard drives03:59
LameBMXsukarn,04:00
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adaptrsukarn: but there could be BIOS options to switch the controller between normal mode and RAID mode04:00
sukarnok, but there does seem to be something wrong here04:00
bjames_adaptr: I'm going to try installing the desktop version on VMware and see how I get on with remote desktop then balance my thoughts and decide what to do, cheers for the help04:00
javimansillaalecjw: ok, later aptitude update, and let see what happens ...04:00
hexidigitalalecjw::  sorry, that was my fault, not MuffY 's04:00
alecjwjavimansilla: yep04:00
LameBMXwhat kind of computer is this .. adaptr im curious if its an OEM computer that set his drives in a fakeraid array for him04:00
LameBMX:)04:00
alecjwhexidigital: lol04:00
sukarnhmm... i'll have to check the BIOS, though I never changed any setting related to HDD in the bios, I only changed the display settings04:01
sukarnits a PC that I use in my home04:01
LameBMXsukarn, what kind of PC is this04:01
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LameBMXdell homemade etc04:01
adaptrLameBMX: it probably isn't an add-on card.. he'd have to know more about it to start with04:01
sukarnLameBMX: assembled04:01
koyo001discouraged04:01
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qosalecjw, got it to start ubuntu. but it hangs during boot at "[xxx]  usb 1-2.3 : configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice"04:02
sukarnits built into the motherboard I think04:02
LameBMXokay so you picked up that parts and built it yourself correct sukarn04:02
koyo001ive been trying to connect my wireless modem04:02
koyo001nothing works04:02
cybercodno luck yet koyo?04:02
koyo001on my laptop04:02
Maheanuusukarn, if you are using a bios setting for raid, then the software raid in dapper cannot be used..  You must do everything from ubuntu, and forget about the softraid that bios wants to set up (or so it seems to me)04:02
koyo001nop04:02
alecjwqos: how long does it hang for?04:02
sukarnLameBMX: not myself, a technician did it about 3 months ago04:02
koyo001been trying for 2 days04:02
LameBMXi just dont want you to toy with raid on your new deal on a fakeraid and find out you toasted your windows install04:02
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koyo001thinking about going back to windows04:02
hexidigitalkoyo001::  what type of wireless card?04:03
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smurfhi04:03
MuffYhello04:03
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koyo001its a roadcom 431104:03
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qosalecjw, since 20 mins ... dont think that it will change04:03
MORTALWii rullz04:03
LameBMXwell id advise checkin with that tech about if he setup a raid array04:03
MuffYMORTAL: it does=)04:03
sukarnLameBMX: I have windows installed, but I don't use it. Windows doesn't matter to me.04:03
smurfhow do i install something through apt-get and override my custom configuration with the default one?04:03
koyo001broadcom04:03
unimatrix9any one familiar with SLAB?04:03
MuffYthough zelda has been sold out for weeks :(04:04
MaheanuuI fought over the softraid bios and the softraid from Ubuntu for over 2 weeks04:04
MORTAL=)04:04
unimatrix9windows is for games , right?04:04
sukarnMaheanuu: I am using feisty, not dapper04:04
koyo001read everything04:04
unimatrix9:P04:04
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hexidigitalkoyo001::  you can try my tutorial on www.hexidigital.org , but i use a BCM4318.. however, the tutorial is badly outdated, and some stuff may be unnecessary04:04
tarawa_anyone seeing firefox 1.8 on edgy break consistently?04:04
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koyo001i tried04:04
unimatrix9tarawa - might be due to plugins you use..04:04
hexidigitalkoyo001::  tutorial is out of date, but it still works04:04
koyo001it gives me error codes04:04
hexidigitalkoyo001::  you used my tutorial?04:04
cybercodkoyo maybe its the drivers you tried to use in ndiswrapper... try getting some from another source04:05
koyo001i used like4 different tutorial04:05
hexidigitalkoyo001::  try mine04:05
LameBMXk sukarn i was just buttin in for a quick second so you didnt accidently undo a fakeraid array and find something didnt work right lol04:05
javimansillaalecjw: great man. Thanks a lot, and have a fantastic 2007!04:05
wvrlinuxdoes anyone know where i can download jass for ubuntu??04:05
hexidigitalkoyo001::  what do you have to lose?04:05
LameBMXMaheanuu, and what was you outcome04:05
koyo001well alot alot of time04:05
koyo001and maybe my wife04:05
sukarnLameBMX: Doesn't seem possible. He only checked that the display was on when he assembled the PC04:05
DicanderWhere does Ubuntu store desktop programs such as democracy player, i.e. is there an equivalent of Applications folder on OSX?04:05
hexidigitalkoyo001::  heh... not worth losing a wife :)04:06
LameBMXahhh cool cool04:06
Maheanuusukarn, you might want to do a read on this  http://unthought.net/Software-RAID.HOWTO/Software-RAID.HOWTO.txt04:06
adaptrDicander: all applications are stored under /usr/bin, /usr/lib, and such04:06
koyo001give me the tutorial site please04:06
sukarnLameBMX: I really mean it. I found out after bringing the PC home that he had not even connected the HDD to the power supply04:06
koyo001i will try it04:06
adaptrDicander: nothing like the Windows scheme exists, no04:06
sukarnLameBMX: I did that myself though04:06
LameBMXlike i said i just didnt want you to screw up that .. find out linux isnt installed and windows got broke04:06
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sukarnMaheanuu: Checking the link. Tanks04:07
hexidigitalkoyo001::  www.hexidigital.org/broadcom.html04:07
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unimatrix9is there an ubuntu version for the playstation 3? ...04:07
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LameBMXMaheanuu, yea search wiki for fakeraid ...i had to use the long howtoo and the quicky fakeraid edgy one ... and mix them up ...04:08
MaheanuuNo prob's, I had been pulling my hair out for 2 weeks until I finally managed to find the various how to pages for setting up raid, I am building a raid5 array for storing video etc on and need the speed and large space04:08
smurfhow do i install something through apt-get and override my custom configuration with the default one? for exemple... i've changed my apache2.conf file and i want to reinstall apache restoring its default configuration04:08
koyo001how do i uncomment multiverse04:08
unimatrix9you most be bold by now...LOL04:08
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koyo001since you did it04:09
koyo001your probably the best person to inform me04:09
LameBMXoh yea Maheanuu i remember ya now ... personally for vid work i would have bounced between a couple raid 0's and left the 5th for storage04:09
sukarnLameBMX and Maheanuu thanks for all this help.04:09
adaptrsmurf: no need to reinstall.. just run dpkg-reconfigure apache204:09
LameBMXi readfile from on raid 0 ... writefile to other raid 0 :)04:09
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hexidigitalkoyo001::  open /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor as root, ie. sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list, and remove the # before universe & multiverse04:10
lord_ceiphas i have a problem to teach my edgy eft that my mouse has 12 buttons, not only 904:10
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hexidigitalbrb04:10
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LameBMXhey sukarn i wasnt helpin adaptr was helpin ya .. i just butted in for a quick second cuz i saw you didnt know about raid and didnt want ya to toaste something elses04:10
adaptrlord_ceiphas: you only have 10 fingers...04:10
smurfadaptr, thanks04:10
lord_ceiphasha ha04:10
sukarnoh yeah, i meant adaptr as well04:10
LameBMXMaheanuu, but again thats all preference04:10
klaushey, i cant get autofs with automounting floppy get work :( any ideas ? seems to be configured right, no errormessages ... status tells me active-mount-points are/usr/sbin/automount --pid-file=/var/run/autofs/_media_floppy.pid --timeout=1 /media/floppy file /etc/auto.floppy04:10
adaptrsukarn: you're welcome04:10
koyo001says permission denied04:11
LameBMXMaheanuu, you way is defiantaly a nice combo of ease and performance and reliability04:11
FrozZHi, I've a Ati Xpress 200 and I go to install Ubuntu. But I've read that Dapper is better than Edgy for install this card. Is it true ?04:11
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Maheanuuhow true, Lame...  I just like raid5 over all the others, having been using in under windoze all these yrs04:11
lord_ceiphasi have 3 thumb-buttons, three main buttons, four wheel-buttons (up-down-left-right) and thwo buttons over and under the wheel. that makes 1204:11
sukarnnow i'll go and check my bios. will take some time as boot process is slow for me right now04:11
hexidigitalkoyo001::  you have to use "sudo" before the command04:11
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LameBMXyea ive been softraid 0 for years .. and a couple 250GB's to store junk04:12
qosmy ubuntu hangs after "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done." Does anyone know a solution?04:12
adaptrMaheanuu: RAID-5 != speed04:12
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hexidigital!usenames | koyo00104:12
ubotukoyo001: Please prefix what you're saying with a name to avoid confusion. See !tab04:12
LameBMXyea but its faster than raid1 ...04:12
MaheanuuAltho, I am just beginning to get my feet wet in the linux world, and will be using a lot of advice from the friendly crowd here at Ubuntu...04:12
hexidigitalMaheanuu::  that's what we're all here for04:13
lord_ceiphasme too04:13
nelsonuwpanyone have any luck with ubuntu and dialup?04:13
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LameBMXim learning and tryin help other with what ive learned so far04:13
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koyo001i dont know how to04:13
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koyo001if i did i would04:13
kitsune1cybercod on?04:13
lord_ceiphasi had this mouse working completely under fedora, but lost my old xorg.conf *grml*04:13
hexidigital!sudo | koyo00104:14
ubotukoyo001: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:14
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Jowi!dialup | nelsonuwp04:14
ubotunelsonuwp: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto04:14
IndyGunFreaklord_ceiphas, is ti a USB or PS2 mouse?04:14
koyo001yeah sudo i know04:14
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koyo001its the other comment i was refering to04:14
nelsonuwpJowi: i did all that but I still cant get anything. I believe I installed the correct driver too04:14
lord_ceiphasits a bluetooth-mouse, but is recognizes as a usb-mouse... the logitech mx1000 laser04:14
kitsune1cybercod : OMG Thanks alot m8 its all working now04:14
zOapwhat is the terminal command for removing a dir and alle the files and folders in it?04:15
hexidigitalkoyo001::  type hexi[TAB]  before you type if you are talking to me, so i see the hilight04:15
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koyo001that comment04:15
IndyGunFreaklord_ceiphas, i've had problems with PS 2 mice being detected properly, but never USB.  Maybe try a PS2 adapter04:15
HawkeVzOap, rm -rf dir04:15
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MaheanuuWhen Ubuntu first made it's debut, I watched in awe of its humanitarian goals and ideals...  I started handing out warty discs to everyone I ran into at home, and even made a convert of a nephew who was attending our university and working on a degree in puter science, today he is a linux guru and wouldn't change for anything...04:15
koyo001hello04:15
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zOapHawkeV, thanks:)04:16
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HawkeVnp04:16
lord_ceiphasIndyGunFreak: yes.. ill put the bluetooth-hub into a ps/2-adapter.... im sure this wont work04:16
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IndyGunFreakoh you're running it through a hub04:16
LameBMXMaheanuu, i was playin around with vista .. and about a week or so ago a saw a vid of beryl ... havnt looked back since lol04:16
zOapHawkeV, but that won't work for ftp right?04:16
IndyGunFreaklord_ceiphas,  i thought the mouse was directly plugged intot he PC.04:16
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koyo001hexi [TAB]  HELLO04:16
lord_ceiphasIndyGunFreak: (16:14:57)  lord_ceiphas:  its a bluetooth-mouse, but is recognizes as a usb-mouse... the logitech mx1000 laser04:16
Maheanuuare there any users in here from the Pac Northwest???  any around the Portland OR area??04:16
HawkeVzOap, you didn't say it was for ftp, heh04:17
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HawkeVafaik, ftp doesn't support recursive deletion04:17
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qosmy ubuntu hangs after "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done." Does anyone know a solution?04:17
koyo001not really clear how to do it\04:17
HawkeVyou'll want to use a gui interface for it04:17
HawkeVbut i could be wrong04:17
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zOapHawkeV, no, I thought it would be the same.. but I was arrogantly wrong:D sorry..04:17
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LameBMXbut i did have a gentoo install a couple years ago from a nix buddy ... and last summer i made a vector linux aao server for a buddy04:17
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Jowinelsonuwp, sorry. I do not have much else advice.04:17
nelsonuwpalright, thanks04:17
koyo001hello04:18
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lord_ceiphasHawkeV: gftp supports recursive delete04:18
koyo001did that work04:18
HawkeVlord_ceiphas, i know that, most graphical ftp clients do04:18
stockfischcan anyone tell me how i can start a "desktop icon" as super user? i want it to always ask me for the pwd when i double click it04:18
hexidigitalkoyo001::  type the letters "HEXI" then press TAB04:18
HawkeVi was saying i could be wrong about the ftp cli recursive deletion04:18
zOaplord_ceiphas, it does, but it freezes when it's supposed to delelte folders with alo of subfolders...04:18
HawkeVthings may have changed since the last time i used ftp04:18
HawkeVzOap, it may not be 'frozen'04:18
koyo001hexi hello04:18
HawkeVif there are a lot of sub folders and files04:18
HawkeVit has to go through ever folder04:19
lord_ceiphaszOap: depends of the server04:19
HawkeVcatalogue whats there04:19
HawkeVthen delete every file/folder one by one04:19
hexidigitalkoyo001::  ok, close enought04:19
koyo001trying but not working04:19
qosmy ubuntu hangs after "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done." Does anyone know why it does so?04:19
zOapHawkeV, well, I've tried on many servers, the same result...04:19
HawkeVhave you tried on a folder with one file in it?04:19
koyo001hexidigital: hello04:19
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hexidigitalkoyo001::  there you go :)04:19
zOapHawkeV, yes, works fine04:19
koyo001ok was putting a space04:19
HawkeVright, then it's just taking time to find out what there is to delete04:19
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koyo001between hexi and tab04:20
matsyesHi i have a vaio and i installed ubuntu edgy eft on it ..but the wierdest things happening it works fine when i connect the ac voltage but not when i start it from battery ..however if i start it using ac it works fine and then when i switch to battery it continues to run ...Any suggestions04:20
zOapHawkeV, well in this particular example I'm trying to delete 223 folders and about 800 files...04:20
koyo001hexidigital: ok to remove the ## how do i get to them04:20
HawkeVyeah...04:20
HawkeVthen hit delete04:20
HawkeVwalk away04:20
HawkeVcome back in a month or so04:20
HawkeVdon't expect it to be instant by any means04:21
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zOaphaha, well, If I only had ssh rights on the server...04:21
junior22#btw2304:21
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koyo001hexidigital: to get to the universe and multiverse04:21
HawkeVzOap, ask your admin to rm -rf the dir =P04:21
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hexidigitalkoyo001::  type (in a terminal) sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list04:21
zOapHawkeV, yeah, I may have to.. thanks for the help btw:)04:21
hexidigitalkoyo001::  then enter your password04:22
HawkeVnp man04:22
hexidigitalkoyo001::  brb, i have to restart my server04:22
koyo001hexidigital: yeah i am there and waiting04:22
matsyeshi if someone could help me04:22
richeematsyes: yes04:22
richeewhat's the probs?04:23
matsyesi have a vaio and i installed ubuntu edgy eft on it ..but the wierdest things happening ...it works fine when i connect the ac voltage but not when i start it from battery ..however if i start it using ac it works fine and then when i switch to battery it continues to run ...Any suggestions04:23
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unimatrix9two batteries?04:23
richeematsyes: could u please describe ur probs more in detail04:24
matsyesno single battery04:24
richeematsyes: guess some problem with ur laptop !04:24
chablehey04:24
chablehappy new yearrrrrrrrr04:24
matsyesrichee: ummm more detail like how04:24
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oidiamatsyes: that realy is weird :P04:24
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richeeyeah04:25
matsyesactually the windows is running fine i thought maybe its a lose connection but its not that04:25
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oidiamatsyes: haw far does it load?04:25
Maheanuuwhat happens when you try to boot from battery only?04:25
oidiahow*04:25
chableanyone can tell me whats the best partition choice if i want to install ubuntu desktop04:25
matsyesit goes to sda6 and marks it as clean then just stops loading04:25
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johns^chable: /, /home and swap04:25
nelsonuwp!dvd04:25
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages04:25
oidiamatsyes: if you start in "failsafe" (text)04:25
oidia?04:25
JimmeyAnyone know a good, lightweight file browser that's not Nautilus?04:26
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unimatrix9chable any free partition will do , just dont use the windows one if you like to keep it..04:26
chablejohns^, so i will choose manual partitioning04:26
BULLEJimmey: konqueror ? =)04:26
alecjwJimmey: thuinar. it's included in xubuntu04:26
chableunimatrix9 :)04:26
alecjw*thunar04:26
chablei have an empty hdd04:26
matsyesMaheanuu:it just stops at sd6 after marking it clean04:26
johns^chable: you could04:26
chableand if i choose 'erase entire disk" , i dont have those 8 mbuffer anymore04:26
HawkeVrox-filer04:26
johns^chable: a seperate /home is important04:27
unimatrix9whats the type of the vaio?04:27
HawkeVkonqueror isn't lightweight at all =P04:27
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chablejohns^, what size should / be ?04:27
adaptrchable: how big is the HD ?04:27
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matsyesoldia:if i start in failsafe the "recovery mode"...it yet doesnt work04:27
johns^chable: one moment04:27
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alecjwJimmey: for graphical ones: thunar, gnome-commander or rox. if you don't want a grpahical one, midnight-commander.04:28
Maheanuumatsyes is that viao only set up for linux or is it partitioned also for windoze?04:28
oidiamatsyes: what moddel is it?04:28
oidiamodell*04:28
koyo001how do i uncheck universe04:28
matsyesmaheanuu:its partioned04:28
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koyo001anyone04:28
johns^chable: mine is 6,5 GB with tons of stuff installed (including a ltsp root for my network) and I've got 1GB left04:28
matsyeswindows was the first one installed04:28
oidiamatsyes: exaktly what is the modell of the vaio?04:29
chableadaptr, 80 gb04:29
alecjwkoyo001: in ubuntu (not k/xubuntu), system>>admin>>software sources and uncyheck universe04:29
unimatrix9gvie some more details on the model of the vaio04:29
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adaptrchable: all for Ubuntu ?04:29
chableyes04:29
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matsyesthe model is pCG-6n6p04:29
e\ectro_is there a way to speed up NFS mounting in ubuntu?/04:29
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adaptrchable: /: 8 GB, /home: everything else04:29
e\ectro_for some reason, it takes 40-60 seconds to mount an NFS share04:29
lorenzo_ragazz04:30
koyo001alecjw: gonna try that04:30
HawkeVe\ectro_, is portmap running?04:30
johns^adaptr: don't forget swap :)04:30
chablethank you04:30
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lorenzo_mi date unamano?04:30
chabledo i need those 8 mbuffer too ?04:30
adaptrchable: if you intend to experiment or add more linuxen later, set up a separate /boot of about 100MB04:30
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johns^e\ectro_: install portmap04:30
adaptrjohns^: swap ? who uses swap these days :)04:30
e\ectro_johns^: /etc/init.d/portmap ?04:30
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chableso i dont need swap ?04:30
HawkeV/etc/init.d/portmap restart04:30
LDZ420what is the file name that list the repositories for apt-get?04:31
HawkeVthen remount04:31
e\ectro_wasnt installed by default04:31
e\ectro_wow04:31
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johns^e\ectro_: allready installed? then it could be some nameresolving issue04:31
HawkeVportmap isn't necessarily needed with nfs04:31
klausdoes nobody know how to use autofs to work correctly ?04:31
johns^chable: you do need swap04:31
HawkeVit does speed things up tho04:31
mnoiradaptr: who uses swap?  Folks who do not want their system dieing unexpectedly due to a memory leak04:31
e\ectro_johns^: it was portmap, wasnt installed by default04:31
johns^e\ectro_: I know :)04:31
e\ectro_I havent been impressed with the ubuntu 64 bit release though04:31
e\ectro_its plagued with a few issues still, but 32 bit version just plain rox04:32
chablei thought that04:32
chableok04:32
chablei will get out and install04:32
e\ectro_64 bit on every distro is quirky though04:32
LDZ420apt-get list and someone send me a link on ubuntu's repository04:32
chablelaters04:32
johns^chable: have fun04:32
koyo001alecjw: software source i have software properties04:32
chablethanks for nowe04:32
chablenow even04:32
chable./quit04:32
matsyesits the vgn-sz series with duo core 2ghz processor04:33
adaptrmnoir: your system won't die because of a memory leak.. it will just start killing processes04:33
koyo001alecjw: software source i have software properties04:33
JimmeyHow can I rename a folder through a terminal04:33
HawkeVmv oldname newname04:33
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phr34ckWhen I write: sudo apt-get install fakeroot, it fetches it from the dvd, I don't want that. How can I make it fetch from the Internet ?04:34
koyo001alecjw: and in there there is no universe04:34
J-_How do I execute a python script in the terminal?04:34
johns^phr34ck: edit /etc/apt/sources.list04:34
Jimmeyphr34ck, comment out the "CDROM" line in /etc/apt/sources.list04:34
JimmeyJ-_: python nameof.py04:34
johns^what Jimmey said :)04:34
J-_thanks04:34
phr34ckKay, thanks.04:34
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ikoniain #fedora04:34
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matsyesummmm any answers ...suggestions????04:35
ikoniawhats up04:35
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JowiJimmey, mv oldfilename newfilename04:35
unimatrix9there is not much info on your viao, so i guess you are the first04:35
koyo001ok think i got it04:35
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adaptrmnoir: well, the oom-killer will properly log what it's doing04:35
jannu1perkele04:35
phr34ckthen I do: sudo apt-get upgrade, yes ?04:35
phr34ckor is it update?04:36
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matsyesummm ikonia were u asking me????04:36
ikoniayes04:36
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unimatrix9maybe there is an option in bios that will help, but i am not sure about that ( vaio )04:36
ikoniaI missed your question04:36
matsyesoh ok04:36
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matsyesjust a sec04:36
matsyesi have a vaio and i installed ubuntu edgy eft on it ..but the wierdest things happening ...it works fine when i connect the ac voltage but not when i start it from battery ..however if i start it using ac it works fine and then when i switch to battery it continues to run ...04:36
unimatrix9reading the viao bios pdf right now to see04:37
sukarnI disabled acpi apic support in BIOS, and then X would not start. nvidia seemed to be unable to fine a device.04:37
matsyesunimatrix9 :i dont follow exactly04:37
ikoniamatsyes: what works fine when you are using ac power ?04:37
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Jowimatsyes, does it die or hangs at a precise moment?04:37
mnoiradaptr: I agree that you are free to not use swap.  before deciding not to take advantage of very cheap insurance, ya might want to google 'need swap in linux?'  and read some technical opinions  :)04:37
matsyesubuntu boots up properly04:37
matsyesJowi:hangs at that precise moment04:38
adaptrmnoir: what technical opinions ? I never said I don't want or use swap.. boy you're easy to bait :)04:38
HawkeVbll04:38
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matsyesare there any other details that i could provide ????04:38
Jowimatsyes, when does it hang?04:39
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matsyesit does checks on the sda partitions (sata disc) and hangs when it marks sda6 has clean04:39
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sukarnadaptr, LameBMX - do you think I need to disable acpi apic support in BIOS?04:39
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s6ohi, somebody help me to change the f@#$%ing default runlevel please - ubuntu 6.1004:39
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mnoiradaptr: naa - just adding to the general discussion.  I am one of those old fashioned types who prises reliability and, therefore, uses swap, anti virus, multiple firewalls, etc.  Of course - the icestorm poweroutage just got me anyway :)04:39
jasinhi04:40
adaptrsukarn: to achieve what ?04:40
matsyeswhen i did the recovery mode it once gave me a graphical prob04:40
Jowimatsyes, and this only when booting on battery?04:40
matsyesbut with ac power theres no prob04:40
sukarnyou forgot the raid discussion we were having a while ago?04:40
s6oi am going nuts here since tehre's no /etc/inittab04:40
matsyesyup only with battery04:40
s6oanybody ?04:40
roflarnwhat should i write to get /home/roflarn back to its original permissions? i managed to fuck up something with chmod :|04:40
sukarnadaptr: you forgot the raid discussion we were having a while ago?04:40
Jowimatsyes, do you have this problem booting any other operating system or live cd on battery?04:40
PriceChild!language | roflarn04:40
uboturoflarn: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:40
jasinHow do I stop these menus from scrolling?04:40
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roflarneh04:40
kemikubotu is a wee bit oversensitive04:41
roflarnsorry for speaking english04:41
krautmoin04:41
jasinubotu??04:41
kemikjasin!?!!?!?104:41
adaptrsukarn: well, discussion is a big word.. but yeah, so what is making you suspect ACPI ?04:41
jasinkemik, no answer?04:41
matsyesjowi:i havent tried live cd but no probs with windows04:41
donaldim using edgy and libdvdread keeps giving me these errors:  Zero check failed in ifo_read.c. this happens in mplayer, vobcopy, dvd-rip, dvdbackup, and any other program that uses libdvdread, EXCEPT gxine04:41
kemikit's a bot04:42
hipertrackerwhere is any searcher for ubuntu 6.06 packages? i do not remember url..04:42
jasinacpi is bugy in ubuntu04:42
LameBMXsukarn, they are always worth a try04:42
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jasinkemik, me a bot? lol04:42
hipertracker& main homesite is not helpfull @ all04:42
Jowimatsyes, is the sata drive internal or external?04:42
kemikjasin: no "IT" as in "ubotu"04:42
sukarnadaptr: a while ago someone said that i should not have raid enabled in BIOS04:42
Maheanuusukarn, I disabled it on mine, and haven't had a hang since04:42
jasinkemik, huh?04:42
matsyesjowi:sata drive is internal04:42
kemik...04:43
sukarnmaheanuu: but x fails to start when I disable acpi apic support04:43
jasinMaheanuu, you disabled acpi?04:43
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LameBMXsukarn, that should make no difference .. is you set the controller to pata mode you will have them appear to be ide drives .. hda instead of sda04:43
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Maheanuujasin, yes04:43
mnoirLameBMX: does that change performance?04:43
jasinI have had lots of trouble with acpi apic apm too04:43
LameBMXdk04:44
adaptrsukarn: that depends on what you want to do, and whether the RAID controller is supported well (or at all) in the Linux kernel04:44
LameBMXi know the standard is susposed to be a max of 6 ide devices04:44
jasinI wish someone would post a acpi bug report on launchpad04:44
adaptrsukarn: if it is not well supported then you definitely want to get it out of the way, yes04:44
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matsyeswhen i do recovery boot ..then i have no probs it comes to the command prompt04:44
LameBMXso it could limit (windows standard from A+ junk)04:44
donaldanyone familiar with libdvdread errors?04:44
xtknightdonald: yeah ive debugged those before04:44
lord_ceiphashow do i enable the virtual consoles tty1-tty6?04:44
phr34ckFrom where I can download codecs for Ubuntu ?04:45
jasindonald, not me, sorry.04:45
donaldk, im getting this:  Zero check failed in ifo_read.c04:45
roflarnanyone here knows how to restore /home/roflarn permissions to default?04:45
mnoirlord_ceiphas: they should be there already04:45
lord_ceiphasso that if i hit ctrl-alt-f1 i get a console?04:45
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jbroomelord_ceiphas: control alt F1 through F604:45
xtknightdonald: uhhh u need DeCSS04:45
phr34ckI need codecs to play .mpg .mpeg and the like.04:45
sukarnadaptr: then i have to figure out how to get x working without acpi apic in BIOS04:45
phr34ck!codecs04:45
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:45
donaldxtknight, i got it. twice, 2 diff versions and same thing04:45
jasin.c is a source code, something programed in the c programing language04:45
lord_ceiphasbrings up a black screen with one single corsor-line in the middle04:45
LameBMXsukarn, at the grub boot screen ...04:45
xtknightdonald: try rebooting?  i dont know why it is is needed but that fixed it for me04:45
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LameBMXhit f6 ( or e if its installed)04:45
xtknightprobably restarts some service that i dont know the name of04:46
sukarnadaptr: i tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-image-`uname -r`, but that didn't work04:46
LameBMXand add noapic nolapic to the string04:46
donaldxtknight, the error happens in mplayer, dvd-rip, vobcopy, dvdbackup, but not in gxine, where dvd playback is perfect04:46
unimatrix9matsyes : there are two things you could try ( later , if no one gives you an better advice ) first boot from the ubuntu install cdrom, its also an live cd, see if it hangs too on battery mode , second boot the vaio, press F2 you go into your bios, be carefull what you do here, go to Boot, and make sure the boot from usb is not as first boot device...04:46
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LameBMXsukarn, is this installed or livecd04:46
jasinI had big time trouble with acpi and apm in kde, I now use gnome.04:46
xtknightdonald: sure xgine uses libdvdread?04:46
lord_ceiphasjbroome: mnoir: this only brings up a black screen04:46
donaldxtknight, i have restarted about 10 times in the 2 days ive had this problem04:46
adaptrsukarn: "didn't work" tells me nothing04:46
Jowimatsyes, that is strange indeed. normally a laptop can hang during boot if it does not get enough juice from the battery. this usually happen when the drives/cd/dvd spins up and there is a power spike. it seems, from your description, to be the case, however it only happen on the drive check on an internal sata which doesn't need much power. I would suggest that you skip the drivecheck when on battery. don't know if you got yourself a b04:46
Jowiad battery or not.04:46
mnoirlord_ceiphas: for all 1-6?04:46
lord_ceiphasmnoir: yes04:46
sukarnLameBMX: which one? the initrd line or the one before that? its installed04:46
mnoirwhat happens when you press return?04:46
donaldxtknight, i assume so. or does xine have something that does it?04:46
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sukarnadaptr: I mean i still could not start x after a reboot04:47
lord_ceiphasmnoir: if i do this often, my x-xerver crashes04:47
LameBMXno the grub screen04:47
matsyesok unimatrix9 i'll try it04:47
jasinIt would detect the laptop lid is closed when its not and the system was set to shut down when laptop lid is closed, I could never stay in kde.04:47
LameBMXwhen you select your boot type .. hit e04:47
mnoirlord_ceiphas: hmm - odd04:47
jasinvery frustrating04:47
xtknightdonald: try running gxine from the terminal, it should print to output and give you some clues as to what libraries its using04:47
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LameBMXgoto second line .. the long one with hernal and junk04:47
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lord_ceiphasmnoir: if i hit return, i go to a new blank line (the cursor moves down)04:47
donaldxtknight, wait gxine does, because is till get this: libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c but no crash04:47
sukarnLameBMX: ok, thanks. i'll try that now04:47
LameBMXwhere you can remove quiet and splash ... put noapic and nolapic04:47
LameBMXgood luck04:47
sukarnLameBMX: bye04:47
Jowimatsyes, do you have any external devices connected? if so try to disconnect them to see if that helps04:48
donaldxtknight, thats where im getting my output, ive been running everything in terminal04:48
adaptrsukarn: waay to coarse-grained.. you need to start doing steps one at a time, verify them, and see if they correspond to expected results04:48
mnoirif you go to a terminal and type ps auxwww|grep tty    what do you get - anything?04:48
LameBMXthat hasnt helped my boot issues though lol04:48
xtknightdonald: does the whole dvd play without issue or does just the first part work?  cuz i got that error and only the very first portion would play in SOME players, and in those few players it has then crashed so in effect nothing worked04:48
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jasinyeah, you can do the noapic in grub.lst04:48
matsyesjowi: i infact thought its a bad battery and therefore charged it fully and then tried it no change04:48
lord_ceiphasmaybe it has something to do with my self-build kernel and nvidia-module, but with the bad 2.6.17 linux wont run on my system (ever heard of the famous jmicron-bug)04:48
LameBMXyea .. might as well test first .. if it works change grub.lst04:48
matsyesjowi: i disconected all external drives04:49
jasinwhen I complie kernel 2.6.19.1 I get a acpi error message from grub.04:49
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mnoirlord_ceiphas: maybe - i forgot where ttys are configged04:49
donaldxtknight, in gxine the whole thing plays. but in mplayer only the intro before it freezes, then with vobcopy and dvdbackup, it only copies the first 15mb of the file before freezing, same error04:49
jasinI wont try compiling that kernel again04:49
lord_ceiphasmnoir: in the character devices-menu there is no tty04:49
unimatrix9maybe some one could tell matsyes how to boot with kernel options on battery like no apic, or no acpi ( i kind of forgot how to )04:49
mnoirhmm04:49
donaldxtknight, i checked the files vobcopy and dvdbackup made, and they stop only a LITTLE bit further than mplayer got04:49
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Jowimatsyes, can still be bad even when fully charged if it does not provide enough output to power your drive during check. i suspect this since it works on AC04:50
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xtknightdonald: hmm, i dont know.  i eventually got mine to operate after continuously googling, unfortunately that's all i can suggest.  i dont remember if my error was the same though04:50
mnoirbut xterms work?04:50
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lord_ceiphasmnoir: maybe ill try the 2.6.18 again... that major bug should be corrected there, too04:50
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Jowi!laptop-mode04:50
ubotulaptop-mode: laptop-mode aims to reduce the power consumption of laptops. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 88 kB04:50
mnoirlord_ceiphas: maybe...04:50
phr34ckHey, I'm having this error whenever I try to launch Synaptic: "another package manager like apt-get is already running .... "04:50
unimatrix9if on ac, you can also check the battery state with ubuntu04:50
jasinlord, stable is 2.16.19.104:50
matsyesjowi: ok cool i'll consider that then04:50
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donaldxtknight, alright. ill try with another dvd later, and if that doesnt work maybe i cant find something in forums or get back on here later, thanks04:50
xtknightdonald: are there any errors before that?  like ones dealing with chapters04:50
phr34ckeventhough I don't have them running ./.. what should I do ?04:50
Coreklfdsgklfd04:51
donaldxtknight, let me check...04:51
lord_ceiphasthe 2.6.17 does not work together with the jmicron-pata-controller, that manages ide-atapi-devices on all core2dou-boards04:51
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Coresorry04:51
CoreI'm newbie on IRC04:51
Jowimatsyes, did you install "laptop-mode" to see if that helps? it has got some power managment for laptop drives in it.04:51
xtknightlord_ceiphas: Jmicron problems?  now im famiilar with those ;)04:51
Corebut i think here i can get help04:51
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jasinI really wish torvald or the folks over at ubuntu would fix the whole acpi, apm, acip stuff04:51
matsyesunimatrix9:thats the thing windows doesnt have a problem and once on the battery yhing doesnt matter04:51
lord_ceiphasjasin: but 2.6.19.1 brings up some strange errors04:51
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phr34ckHey, I'm having this error whenever I try to launch Synaptic: "another package manager like apt-get is already running .... "04:51
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jasinlord, only if you config it funny04:51
mnoirphr34ck: you can use the fuser command to discover who is using04:51
CoreAnderson????????????????????04:52
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CoreBrazillian????????04:52
unimatrix9ok04:52
lord_ceiphasxtknight: i disabled my whole usb-controller so i could install04:52
RopeHi, i instelled windows, and recovered my GRUB, my windows partition is on hda2. My linux on hda3. In grub it says linux is hd0,2  how do i know wich one is Windows?04:52
xtknightlord_ceiphas: like disabled usb mouse and usb keyboard in bios?04:52
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phr34ckmnoir, how do I use that ?04:52
jasinlord, use yoru old config file dont do the make menuconfig thingny04:52
matsyesjowi : i can try the laptop mode in fact i ws thinking if theres no soln i would do just that ... tho i'll try unimatrix 9's idea before doing that04:52
xtknightlord_ceiphas: i heard that was one fix , but i didnt have to disable my usb.  i had to install from a usb cdrom04:52
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donaldxtknight, another thing: when i run vobcopy or dvdbackup, it will copy the entire 695mb menu file, but freezes at 15mb when it gets to the feature: VTS_01_1.VOB04:52
CoreBrasileiro cara?04:52
phr34ckand something is wrong, my processor is running at full speed ....04:52
lord_ceiphasxtknight: in my bios i only can disable usb completely04:53
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mnoirphr34ck: type man fuser - complete instructions will appear as if magic :)04:53
Li`lEndianis anyone else experiencing huge-lag times on freenode?04:53
xtknightlord_ceiphas: :what motherboard?04:53
lord_ceiphasxtknight: abit ab9pro04:53
donaldxtknight, no errors at the beginning as far as i can tell. ive seen other people complain on forums but no solutions. so it may be a bug, or this particular dvd.04:53
xtknightdonald: paste the whole error output into pastebin, ill see if i recognize any of the errors, i recall getting the ifo_read one but also another and i cant remember which one i was able to fix04:53
mnoirphr34ck: sounds like something is running away - use top to see04:53
CoreDoes soemone can help me?04:53
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mnoir!ask04:54
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:54
donaldxtknight, pastebin? lol04:54
sukarnadaptr, LameBMX, disabling acpi apic in BIOS has made everything faster. But do I always have to use noapic nolapic in the boot line?04:54
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lord_ceiphasCore: whats your problem?04:54
phr34ckahh04:54
xtknightdonald: ya URL is in the Channel topic04:54
phr34ckapt-get is running04:54
xtknightdonald: irc lags when u paste over 3 lines at a time04:54
CoreI have a very improved machine and Ubuntu seems don't be able to handle with it04:54
mnoirphr34ck: :)04:54
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CoreI'm running Kurumim instead04:54
phr34cksudo top to kill it ?04:54
xtknightlord_ceiphas: so have u gotten ubuntu installed?  dapper/edgy?  hows its it working on the C2d?04:54
lord_ceiphasCore:  maybe a core2duo with a jmicron-chipset?04:54
matsyesok thanks a lot for ur time and help though really appreciate the effort i'll have a go and give it a try04:54
phr34ckbut why is it running04:55
donaldxtknight, yeah i knew u couldnt paste in the channel. just havent been around long enough to know about pastebin04:55
phr34ck?04:55
CoreMy machine is:04:55
mnoirphr34ck: naa - use kill or killall if you cannot find it in a terminal04:55
matsyesif it works later i'll tell you04:55
sukarnadaptr, LameBMX: disabling acpi apic in BIOS has made everything faster. But do I always have to use noapic nolapic in the boot line? (my previous message seemed to have been damaged somehow)04:55
JowiRope, "sudo fdisk -l"  should give you an idea. hd0,0 is /dev/hda1 and hd0,2 is /dev/hda304:55
lord_ceiphasxtknight: works fine... just running it, but to get your usb back you have to make your own kernel... and thats a bit ugly here atm04:55
unimatrix9good luck matsyes04:55
CoreCore 2 Duo E6300, mobo Intel DD946GZis, HD SATA2 160GB, DDR2 533MHz 1GB Kingstom04:56
jasinubuntu just released a kernel patch -- I guess there was some sorta security issue, its version #  2.6.17.1-10.3404:56
RopeJowi: Thanks04:56
xtknightlord_ceiphas: realy? is there some c2d usb patch or something?04:56
matsyesthanks unimatrix9 :)04:56
jannu1any idea how i can remove shortcuts (link to folder) at my desktop?04:56
lord_ceiphasCore: is a jmicron-controller on this board? if yes try to disable usb for installing04:56
jasinyou can get it off of synaptics or with apt-get04:56
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matsyesand thanks jowi04:57
floppyearshi04:57
Jowinp matsyes04:57
Corepeople how do I use IRC???04:57
zOaphow do I mount a ftp server ? Do I need a kernel module?04:57
jasinjanni=u1, what shortcut you want to remove?04:57
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Coreit's so confusing04:57
lord_ceiphasxtknight: no the fix was made in 2.6.28 kernel as long as you use a higher kernel, you can use your usb, blew makes problems04:57
floppyearsdoes anybody here know how can I hook up a mac book pro laptop and an ubuntu machine over an ethernet cable to share files ?04:57
JowiCore, you're using it now04:57
LinTuxMy menu's seem to be coming up slow, I have rebooted, anybody got any ideas?04:57
xtknightCore: just for reference heres your mobo specs http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/D946GZIS/index.htm04:57
jannu1jasin Link targe: /media/e04:58
jbroome!IRC | Core04:58
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ubotuCore: irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines04:58
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Coredoes someone have had trouble with SATA2 or DDR2 or C2D with Ubuntu????????????????04:58
sukarnCore: you're using it right now. user names toward the right, message box in centre and servers/channels on the left. At least thats how it is in XChat04:58
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lord_ceiphasthats the cause the ubuntu-users with new boards are so angry because nobody just upgrades ubuntu /kubuntu.. to 2.6.18 and you have to be good to get this working04:58
xtknightCore: lots of people do.  you're doing fine on IRC by the way, just talk like you are now ,that's all irc is anyway ;)04:58
xtknightlord_ceiphas: so you04:59
donaldxtknight, do you need the url to the paste now?04:59
xtknightlord_ceiphas: so you're using an old kernel now?04:59
xtknightdonald: sure04:59
AndersonHow do I go about getting the information I need about my touchscreen to set up drivers04:59
donaldxtknight, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/120/04:59
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ceacrohi04:59
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jasinjannu1, have you tried ussing the gconf-editor ? Open that up and goto apps / natulis / desktop04:59
Core--- xtknight --- : I've seen the specs04:59
lord_ceiphasxtknight: no, i run 2.6.19.1 but that makes problems with my x-server04:59
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Core--- xtknight --- : but don't know what to do04:59
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Anderson!touchscreen04:59
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jasinjannu1, thats how I add and delete stuff from the desktop in gnome.05:00
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MaheanuuCore, I am using SATA II 2gigs of ddr2 ram, and 5 320gig maxtors raid5 and 1 400gig seagate Sata II boot drive05:00
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Core--- Maheannu --- : what's your Ubuntu's version?05:01
xtknightdonald: it may be the particular dvd i guess05:01
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jannu1jasin thx ill try05:01
Core--- Maheannu --- : mine is 6.0605:01
AndersonAnyone have any advice on touchscreen setup?05:01
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emaclaI hvae forgot the command to remove a directory and all what's in it. WHich command is it?05:01
Core--- Maheannu --- : i can't get 6.10 now to test05:01
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xtknightlord_ceiphas: problems with x server?  very odd...u dont mean proprietary nvidia/ati drivers right?05:01
donaldxtknight, yeah, its complaining about video packets, but when i use cache it still messes up. it doesnt crash, but i have to kill mplayer after it freezes.05:01
MaheanuuCore I am running Dapper 6.06.1 and the AMD 64 Alternate05:01
sukarnemacla: rm -r [directory] 05:01
lord_ceiphasMaheanuu: the problem is with the 2.6.17 kernel and core2duo-boards...05:01
xtknightCore: does your board have a jmicron controller?05:02
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jasinokay, good luck05:02
MaheanuuI am staying away from 6.10 for the time being05:02
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lord_ceiphasCore:try to disable your usb mouse and keyboard (better, the whole usb) in bios...05:02
defendi love edgy05:02
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MaheanuuNo, I am running a MSI with AMD64 proc05:02
ubuntu__hi05:03
xtknightto get edgy installed on my c2d i had to install dapper off a usb cd-rom drive and then dist-upgrade because my IDE cd/dvd drives were't detected..fortuntately all my HDs are sata05:03
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donaldxtknight, could it be the a52 format?05:03
Francis_Alberthi05:03
lord_ceiphasMaheanuu: without the 2.6.18 kernel linux is not very handsome for c2d-board... many bugs05:03
Francis_Alberthow are you ?05:03
xtknightdonald: i think it's just saying that because a52 is trying to decode corrupted info05:03
Francis_AlbertPlease?05:03
jasinIf you are ussing legacy use support in the bios it can create problems, its a well documented issue.05:03
jasinIf you are ussing legacy usb support in the bios it can create problems, its a well documented issue.05:04
xtknightwas anyone able to install Feisty on their Core 2 Duo?  I just got errors in both the GUI and alternate installers but feisty livecd booted fine05:04
lord_ceiphasxtknight: i have no tty1-6 and sometimes my x-server crashes completely without a chance to get logs05:04
jasindisabled legacy usb support05:04
donaldxtknight, alright. im still guessing its libdvdread then. ill try another dvd later, thanks05:04
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matsyesunimatrix9,Jowi:the wierdest thing happened i kept booting it a couple of times thru ac and now it just booted thru battery i have no idea whats going on but its working tho i thing i'll yet give it some time to see if this is a permanent change for the better :) or maybe go for a complete reinstall anyway05:05
lord_ceiphasjasin, with c2d-boards you often have to disable usb completely (but only for kernel 2.6.17 and below05:05
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xtknightwell i needed legacy usb support for my usb cdrom yet it worked fine for me, i dont know05:05
unimatrix9thats odd indeed05:05
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Maheanuulord, how do I determine my kernal version?05:05
lord_ceiphasuname -r05:06
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AndersonAnyone have any advice on touchscreen setup?05:06
unimatrix9keep an eye on that battery....05:06
matsyesunimatrix9 :tell me about it but i'm happy its working for now tho i'll try to figure out whats going on05:06
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jasinlord, ok05:06
jasinyeah, uname -r gives the kernel version05:06
matsyesunimatrix9:i'll be keeping an eye on it :)05:06
jannu1jasin i cant find shortcuts here05:06
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lord_ceiphasand ubuntu is delivered with kernel 2.6.17 what makes it nearly impossible for newbies (ubuntu is the distro made for them) to get it running....05:07
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floppyearsanybody who can help me with my ubuntu and mac question ?05:07
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apokryphos!anyone05:08
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:08
lord_ceiphasat least if the newbies have a core2duo05:08
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jannu1no prob anymore05:08
jasinuname -a gives you more info, like if the kernel is 386 or 686 and when it was installed05:08
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lord_ceiphasjasin: who cares ;-)05:08
xtknightjasin: i believe it says when the kernel was compiled05:08
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e\ectro_for some reason my nvidia card booted into X windows but the screen is black05:09
e\ectro_has anyone had this experience?/05:09
jasinxtknight, just say .. no need to get upset05:09
jasinxtknight, just sayin .. no need to get upset05:09
lord_ceiphasectro, tried to switch to tty4 and back to tty7?05:09
floppyearsapokryphos: nice bot !05:09
unimatrix9matsyes , type acpi -t in console05:09
xtknightlol05:10
jasinlord, I do :p05:10
floppyearshow can I connect a mac os x and ubuntu directly over ethernet cable to share files ?05:10
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wvrlinuxwhere can i download JASS voor UBUNTU05:10
lord_ceiphasfloppyears: plug in the crosslink-cable and use ftp/smb/http or anything else05:10
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BrianB04I have a quick x.org question, but since I run Ubuntu, figured I would ask in here: How painless is it to setup widescreen monitors in Ubuntus x.org?05:11
Corei'm using X-Chat at Kurumim05:11
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CoreHow do I make to talk to a specific person?05:11
xtknightBrianB04: not that hard, im running one right now05:11
floppyearsthanks lord_ceiphas05:11
lord_ceiphasfloppyears: but you have to set the ips manually to the same subnet but the last number has to be another05:11
apokryphos!msg | Core05:11
ubotuCore: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.05:11
Corewhen someone talk to me the nick highlights05:11
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ubotucore: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.05:12
unimatrix9!acpi05:12
ubotuacpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)05:12
lord_ceiphasCore: type the name ant hit tab05:12
BrianB04xtknight: So you just have to set it up as another resolution and it will work? I didn't know how well x.org handles 'non-standard' resolutions05:12
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emaclaHow do i create a dir with the terminal?05:12
Lynourewvrlinux: What is JASS? (Other than Journal of Applied Systems Studies)05:12
xtknightBrianb04: pretty much so, i think even vesa will allow 1680x1050, but i use the nvidia driver personally and it works great05:12
lord_ceiphasemacla: mkdir05:12
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BrianB04xtknight: Very cool. I'm looking at 19 inchers, so 1280x...900 I think would be native.05:13
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AndersonAnyone have any advice on touchscreen setup?05:13
xtknightbrainb04: 1440x900 19" widescreen?05:13
Coresorry people05:13
mnoircore - is Kurumim a full distrib or just KDE?05:13
BrianB04xtknight: That's it, nevermind:)05:13
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xtknightbrianb04: do u have nvidia/fglrx drivers or are you using default nv/radeon/ati/vesa now?05:13
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BrianB04xtknight: I run the nvidia ones.05:13
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ubotumnoir: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.05:13
lord_ceiphaswhy widescreen, 1600x1200 see more/get more ;-)05:13
emaclaHow do i extract a tar.gz to a dir by the terminal?05:14
BrianB04xtknight: The default ones are...slow:)05:14
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Coremnoir: Kurumim is the only Linux that has booted on my machine05:14
BrianB04lord_ceiphas: Because to get 1600x1200 I have to hit at least 20 inch lcds, and those get...costly:) I have a 21 inch crt right now and run 16x1205:14
lord_ceiphasemacla: tar -xvf (please read some newbie-documents instead of buggering us05:14
jasinLinux Touch Screen HOWTO http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XFree86-Touch-Screen-HOWTO.html05:14
floppyearslord_ceiphas: I have smb working right now, and they can connect just fine, but now I want to connect both computers directly with a cable05:14
Coremnoir: i have a lot of linuxes here05:14
Coreno one works05:14
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xtknightbrainb04: yeah, well try `sudo nvidia-xconfig` and let it overwrite your current xorg config.  that always lets me use the native resolution after restarting gdm ( `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart` )05:15
lord_ceiphasBrianG: i have 1600x1200 on a 19"05:15
lardarseok.. does anyone here know where the best place to look is for info about Joysticks in Ubuntu ?05:15
mnoirCore: so you are asking about it in an ubuntu support group - isn't that a little off topic?05:15
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BrianB04lord_ceiphas: What brand of monitor? I couldn't find a 19" lcd with 16x12 native.05:15
xtknightlord_ceiphas: crt though, right?05:15
adaptrCore: no better than having one that doesn't work, then05:15
xtknightlcds do not exist at 1600x1200 <20"05:15
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lord_ceiphasCore: that has to do with the kernel... 2.6.17 or belo wont work on core2duo boards05:15
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CoreI'll explain for all what's happening05:16
lord_ceiphasof course crt....05:16
Coreso listen05:16
BrianB04I figure that 19" lcd is close enough to the size of a 21" crt and I hate this huge monitor, takes up too much room, and creates too much heat.05:16
fotoflo_hey how do i set the default mp3 player in ubuntu?05:16
nn531linux is killing me here, how do I get mp3 playback05:16
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lord_ceiphascore...05:16
CoreI buyed my PC two days ago05:16
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lord_ceiphasget a linux with a shipped 2.6.18-kernel05:16
xtknight!mp305:16
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:16
fotoflo_mn531: apt-get install xmmc05:16
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Anderson!toughbook05:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about toughbook - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:17
Corelord_ceiphas: 2.6.17?05:17
mn3hey05:17
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BrianB04Core: There's the problem, may be too new of hardware...might not be in Linux yet. Or in Ubuntu at least, the kernels in it.05:17
jasinnn531, you need an mp3 lib, or easier, just install vlc :p05:17
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xtknightCore: opensuse 10.2 does install on C2D05:17
amicrawlerhow do i upgrade to edgy from dapper05:17
Corewhat's the one wich come with Ubuntu 6.06?05:17
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lord_ceiphasCore: fedora core6 does install also05:17
xtknightcore: feisty fawn may also work for you05:17
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amicrawleri downloaded the dvd05:17
mn3jasin can you help me a bit ?05:17
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nn531k  becasue when I do xmmc it doesnt find any packages05:17
lord_ceiphasdapper drake uses 2.6.1705:17
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amicrawlerand i don;t want to loose my home dir05:18
jasinnn531, use the command sudo apt-get install vlc05:18
nn531and that's really starting to get annoying05:18
CorePeople i'm not undertanding very well05:18
blaanolimitsoya: happy new year!!!05:18
xtknightnn531: it's xmms i think05:18
jasinnn531, vlc is a media player, it'll do mp3s05:18
blaa happy new year!!!05:18
nn531jasin: couldnt find vlc05:18
nolimitsoyahappy new year blaa :)05:18
mnoiramicrawler: is home a sep partition?05:18
CoreI want to install something05:18
Coreanything05:18
amicrawlerdon;t know05:18
jasinnn531, did you type the command I gave you?05:18
xtknightnn531: sudo apt-get install xmms xmms-mad05:18
nn531yeah05:18
fotoflo_jasin: yeah but it dosnt do playlists or anything like that that people have come to expect from mp3 pllayers05:18
Corebut currently what I have is some linuxes from months ago05:18
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nn531sudo apt-get install vlc05:19
Corethe newer is Ubuntu 6.0605:19
mnoiramicrawler: in terminal type df -h and see if there is one line for /home05:19
lord_ceiphasCore: the kernel is the heart of linux, and the kernel with the number "2.6.17" will not run on core2duo mainboards so you have to get a linux with kernel 2.6.18 or higher05:19
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CoreI have debian05:19
jasinnn531, here's more specific instructions: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html05:19
fotoflo_Brian: remember, old laptops have old laptop hard drives05:19
BrianB04fotoflo_: Ick, that I never thought of.05:19
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lord_ceiphasdebian is a linux05:19
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fotoflo_BrianB04, so throw out the hard drive that comes with the system you get05:19
nn531xtknight: no dice, couldnt find package xmms-mad05:19
AndersonIs there anyone to figure out the Manufacture, and thereby the drivers needed, for my LCD screen?05:19
Corelord_ceiphas: but the kernel of Ubuntu 6.06 is 2.6.17?05:19
jasinnn531, do whats stated on that page05:19
nn531k05:19
xtknightCore: debian has some kernels that work with core 2 duo http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/05:20
xtknightCore: rather someone has modified them to work05:20
BrianB04You know, irssi has been driving me nuts, and I just remembered why, raw config...blah...gotta setup my themes again.05:20
lord_ceiphasCore: yes... and that is the problem05:20
mnoiramicrawler: method to save your home will be different depending on answer05:20
adaptrCore: nope, it's 2.6.15-2705:20
xtknightnn531: you need to enable all repositories05:20
amicrawleramicrawler@amicrawler-desktop:~$ df -h05:20
amicrawlerFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on05:20
amicrawler/dev/hda1             112G   59G   48G  56% /05:20
amicrawlervarrun                125M   96K  125M   1% /var/run05:20
amicrawlervarlock               125M  4.0K  125M   1% /var/lock05:20
amicrawlerudev                  125M  172K  125M   1% /dev05:20
amicrawlerdevshm                125M     0  125M   0% /dev/shm05:20
amicrawlerlrm                   125M   18M  107M  15% /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-686/volatile05:20
amicrawleramicrawler@amicrawler-desktop:~$05:20
amicrawlerthat is what i have05:20
mnoir!flood05:20
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xtknight!repositories05:20
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource05:20
lord_ceiphasthat makes no difference, for core2duo-boards you need kernel 2.6.18 or higher05:20
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fotoflo_BrianB04, i  got a new HP laptop w/ turion x2 1600 with 1gb ram and an 80 gb hd for $550 from bestbuy on black friday05:20
lord_ceiphasor you have to be REAL good05:21
CoreMany people to answer!!!!!!!05:21
CoreGod! Sorry05:21
BrianB04Just a note: You should /always/ seperate home from /, I like sticking seperate drive in for home.05:21
CoreWell, My Debian stops on the HD detection05:21
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CoreWith debian the problem is at least SATA05:21
mn3can someone msg me because i need some help with the ubuntu browser configs....plz05:21
lord_ceiphasCore: are you listening?05:21
BrianB04That should be default in the Ubuntu install, not sure why it isn't, and it creates one huge partition for /05:21
adaptrOh god yes, and then some...05:21
mnoiramicrawler: downgrade from 6.10 to 6.06 is not common so it can be very time-consuming and tricky - reinstasll is usually faster05:21
CoreWith Turbo Linux too, it seems05:21
lord_ceiphasCORE!05:22
lord_ceiphasLISTEN05:22
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mnoiramicrawler: but you weill need to back up home first if you do not want to lose05:22
Corelord_ceiphas: yes, but another user said the kernel is not05:22
amicrawleri have dapper want to goto edgy05:22
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fotoflo_Brian: it came with a free printer/scanner/copier and wifi router and 1gb memstick but i had to pay for everything and Ill get like 500 back in rebates05:22
mnoiroic - you said the other way befre :)05:22
mnoir!edgy05:22
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes05:22
adaptramicrawler: gksu "update-manager -c" and click on "upgrade"....05:22
Corelord_ceiphas: adaptr, 2.6.15-2705:23
amicrawleri hvae the dvd in my drive now05:23
adaptramicrawler: it's been running here for the last 2 hours or so.. expect a bit of a wait :)05:23
mnoiramicrawler: go to that link and follow nice directions05:23
lord_ceiphasCore:  you will never get a linux running on a core2duo-board if you use a linux with kernel 2.6.17 or lower... so go and find a distro that HAS a higher kernel shipped05:23
donaldxtknight, i just tried mplayer starting on a chapter other than chapter 1 and playback is perfect. im guessing its some kind of copy protection on chapter 1 of the dvd.05:23
adaptrCore: I know - I told you, and that's what I have running05:23
Corelord_ceiphas: sorru! I was confused with what adaptr saidx05:23
Corelord_ceiphas: I'll believe you05:24
adaptrCore: and Edgy has 2.6.17, so you'll have to take a look at Feisty05:24
Corelord_ceiphas: I thought the problem was SATA, but is C2D...05:24
fotoflo_hey does anyone know how i set my default mp3 player in ubuntu?05:24
lord_ceiphasCore: or disable usb for installing and get youselv a new kernel compiled after instzallation (that was my way)05:24
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adaptrfotoflo_: right-click on an mp3 file, choose properties.. and select open with.. then select a new default05:25
xtknighti have some core 2 duo kernels here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32634305:25
lord_ceiphasCore:  it is not SATA and also not C2D its the JMICRON-PATA controller on your board05:25
jasinfoto, just because you dont know how to do playlist in vlc does not mean it wont do playlist05:25
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Corelord_ceiphas: hummmm...05:25
jasinfoto, contro + p, try that05:25
jasinfoto, control + p, try that05:25
Corelord_ceiphas: disable USB????05:26
fotoflo_adaptr, thats not an option05:26
Corethe installation will proceed???05:26
donaldxtknight, i got playback to work on chapters other than chapter 105:26
Coredisable on setup BIOS?05:26
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fotoflo_err ok i see05:26
nn531xtknight: i need to be connected to the internet to do this05:26
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xtknightdonald: yeah , sorry im not sure because mine would only do the intro and then it would just stop05:26
amicrawleri got the dvd guys not the cd ver05:26
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donaldxtknight, same here. copy protection?05:26
Coreadaptr: Edgy? Feisty? Codenames?05:26
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adaptrCore: yes05:27
xtknightdonald: i can't remember what i did to fix it.  but the document on restricted formats on ubuntu wiki + a reboot did it for me.  32bit or 64bit?05:27
fotoflo_cool that worked05:27
donaldxtknight, 64bit processor, but 32bit ubuntu05:27
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amicrawlerxknight05:27
adaptrCore: release names, actually - dapper was 6.06 (june 2006), edgy is current, 6.10 (october), feisty is next, due out in april or something05:27
Maheanuulord_ceiphas, I am running 2.6.15-26-AMD64 generic05:27
xtknightnn531: yeah..do u not have net now?05:27
Coreand boot options on the CD prompt? No one? Coz there is something regarding USB detection...05:27
jasinvlc supports .pls and .m3u play lists.05:27
lord_ceiphasCore: try to disable usb in bios, so maybe the installation will work (it did for me05:27
amicrawlercan i upgrade my sys to edgy from the dvd i downloaded?05:27
xtknightnn531: youll have to wait til u get net til u can install mp3 support i think05:27
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amicrawlerand save my home dir05:27
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xtknight!upgrade05:28
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes05:28
adaptrfotoflo_: you're welcome05:28
Corelord_ceiphas: and boot options on the CD prompt? No one? Coz there is something regarding USB detection...05:28
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nn531xtknight: no, Im on my windows machine and im trying to configure my stuff on mylaptop becasue Im on dialup05:28
fotoflo_thanks !05:28
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lord_ceiphascore, none05:28
fotoflo_adaptr,05:28
lord_ceiphasjust hit enter05:28
amicrawler<ubotu> it wants a cd not a dvd05:28
xtknightamicrawler: i dontknow, there's instructions for doing it from cd at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes but i dont know about dvd...05:28
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Coreadaptr: so 6.10 doesn't works yet???05:28
floatinghow to extract .ace ?05:28
adaptramicrawler: don;'t need either - just an Internet connection05:28
adaptrCore: of course it works - what do you mean ?05:28
Coreadaptr: i have to wait the next release?05:28
adaptrCore: well, like I said, you can try Feisty now - but it is on serious beta05:29
amicrawler<floating> how to extract .ace ?   do a unace05:29
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adaptrCore: or try one of xtknight's kernels, if you;ve been paying attention at all05:29
BrianB04Cool, alright back in business05:29
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Coreadaptr: lord_ceiphas said kernel 2.6.17 doesn't works with JMICRON-PATA05:30
floatinghow to do an unace? unace command not found05:30
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xtknightnn531: confused...so is downloading a couple debs feasible for you at the moment?05:30
xtknightnn531: you can download debs at packages.ubuntu.com and install them later05:30
Coreand 6.10 has this kernel? right? or higher?05:30
nn531xtknight: yeah I bought aportable harddrive the other day05:30
lord_ceiphascore, i have kubuntu edgy eft (6.10) running on my c2d-system, just disable usb for installing, make a text-install of ubuntu, afterwards get a new kernel and if this kernel runs, enable usb again05:30
adaptrCore: no he did not - he said repeatedly that 2.6.17 does not work with the core 2 duo05:31
nn531xtknight: but everytime i try to install something it tries to go to the internet to find stuff05:31
Coreadaptr: and 6.10 has this kernel? right? or higher?05:31
lord_ceiphasadaptr: i sais JMICRON05:31
xtknightCore: dapper and edgy do not work properly with jmicron, u must use feisty or fedora core 6 or opensuse 10.2 or find an alternate way of booting dapper since edgy doesnt work with ich8 either05:31
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adaptrlord_ceiphas: well, that's very confusing then05:31
BrianB04Core: Feisty Fawn will have the newer kernel, Edgy does not.05:31
lord_ceiphasor c2d-BOARD, because this pata-controller is on nearly EVERY c2d-board05:31
xtknightnn531: what other installation media do u have05:31
nn531xtknight: ?\05:31
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xtknightnn531: other than internet?  how else would it install things?05:32
xtknightnn531: do u have an ubuntu cd, or dvd?05:32
nn531xtknight: I have the image burned on a cd05:32
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xtknightnn531: im afraid xmms isnt on the cd by default so it must go to the internet05:32
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jasinkind of off topic but did any see that stuff about that broncos player? so sad05:32
nn531ok05:33
nn531jasin: what broncos player??05:33
Corextknight: so edgy doesn't works in no way but dapper that is older do?05:33
nn531xtknight: whats the ubuntu site to download the dap files?05:33
xtknightcore: that was the case for me.  but to boot dapper i had to use a usb-cdrom drive instead of my dvd drives hooked up to the jmicron as they would not be detected05:34
Core--- All People --- : let me see if i undertood05:34
nn531deb imean05:34
xtknightnn531: packages.ubuntu.com , select Dapper and search for a package05:34
jasinDenver Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams05:34
xtknightnn531: or whatever distro ur using05:34
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jasinhe was shot to death, randomly.05:34
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nn531im not using dapper05:34
nn531oh ok05:34
nn531i see05:34
CoreI have to wait the next release with a kernel > 2.6.1705:35
xtknightnn531: i thought a dap package meant u wanted one for dapper ;)05:35
nn531no im sorry05:35
Coreor find an alternative customized kernel for 6.06 and 6.1005:35
lord_ceiphasyes for easy way you have to wait05:35
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nn531i got deb confused with dap05:35
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Core--- All People ---: or find an alternative customized kernel for 6.06 and 6.1005:35
xtknightCore: yes05:35
xtknightCore: or boot 6.06 using alternate method05:36
jasincore, yes?05:36
Core--- All People ---: as those of xtknight05:36
mnoirnn531: live by the cute name, die by the cute name :)05:36
sc4ttrbrainanyone want to help me resize my /dev/sda1 ? i cant do it with gparted :(05:36
MasterShreksc4ttrbrain is it mounted when youre trying to resize it?05:36
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Core--- All People ---: and to do that I have to install 6.06 and update its kernel05:36
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jasinyou must mount sda1 first05:36
nn531mnoir: i'd say05:36
xtknightCore: yes05:36
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Core--- All People ---: but to do it I ghave to disable USB on BIOS05:37
sc4ttrbrainMasterShrek: yes,thats why i cant resize it05:37
xtknightCore: in some cases.  i did not have to.05:37
MasterShreksc4ttrbrain do you have a copy of knoppix?05:37
AndersonDoes ubuntu still support xFree86?05:37
adaptr!xfree8605:37
xtknightanderson: sort of, but it's Xorg now05:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xfree86 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:37
nn531xtknight: download xmms and xmms-mad?05:37
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MasterShrek!knoppix05:37
sc4ttrbrainMasterShrek: i ve live cds but no knoppix05:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about knoppix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:37
Core--- All People ---: my 6.06 stops after the main menu05:37
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MasterShreksc4ttrbrain any live cd with gparted on it?05:37
adaptrCore: what is the "main menu"?05:37
xtknightnn531: yes, u may also have to download dependencies for those if needed, but it should only amount to about 5 packages total at most just for xmms and xmms-mad...i think05:38
floatingi downloaded 2 diffenret subtiltes, another one .ace and another .rar, both I cannot open with unace nor xarchiver, whats up ?05:38
lumaQQHOW DO I LOG IN AS ROOT?05:38
jasinyes, there is gaprted live cd05:38
MasterShrekCore why do u keep putting that All People thing there, its fucking annoying05:38
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sc4ttrbrainMasterShrek: ubuntu and kubuntu cd only05:38
adaptrCore: the boot screen ? then boot it with the rescue option, so you can see what happens05:38
mnoir!root05:38
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:38
lumaQQi forgot the string ~~ hehe (^-^)05:38
xtknightnn531: just try xmms and xmms-mad, then once u install them on the target pc it will ask for dependencies, then transfer those over as needed05:38
lord_ceiphasOMG05:38
jasingparted linux live cd: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php05:38
MasterShreksc4ttrbrain i would reccomment getting knoppix, its a very handy distro05:38
MasterShrekrecommend*05:38
lord_ceiphasi just made a typo and now dont want to reboot05:38
nn531k05:38
Core--- All People ---: he says: Uncompressing linux....OK Booting the kernel05:38
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sc4ttrbrainMasterShrek: ahy can i do  it within ubuntu05:39
jasingparted linux live cd: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php05:39
Core--- All People ---: then bellow the cursor blinks forever05:39
mnoirlord_ceiphas: ??05:39
lord_ceiphasrm -rf /usr instead of rm -rf /usr/src/linux-2.6.19.105:39
sc4ttrbrainMasterShrek: *why05:39
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jasinThe CD aims to be fast, small in size (~30mb), and use minimal resources05:39
jasinto get that disk partitioned the way you want it.05:39
Coreadaptr: the boot screen, yes05:39
lord_ceiphasi made a crtl-c after 3secs, but dont know what has been killed05:39
adaptrCore: can you select the second boot option ? then do so05:39
Coretehre's no "rescue option"05:39
mnoirlord_ceiphas: i see a backup restoration in yer future....05:39
MasterShreksc4ttrbrain no, u cannot resize a mounted partition, but to have your root partition not mounted you need to be booting off a cd, knoppix im sure has a partition editor, and im sure that ubuntu doesnt05:39
xtknightlord_ceiphas: uhhhh do sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop05:39
lumaQQwhen i drag a file into the /usr/share  folder is just dont drop there?  is that cos i need to log in as root first?? (^-^)?05:40
lord_ceiphasi have kubuntu, but thanks, ill try that05:40
jasinyou do a rescue in recovery mode, use fsck05:40
Coreadaptr: the second option? the same happens05:40
xtknightlord_ceiphas: should restore basic functionality, /usr shouldnt usually contain too much personal stuff that shuold be in /home05:40
xtknightlord_ceiphas: try kubuntu-desktop then05:40
sc4ttrbrainMasterShrek: so i can only do it from live cd?05:40
mnoirlumaQQ: or run nautilus in superuser mode05:40
Andersonwhat command do I use to check and modify user privileges?05:40
lumaQQmnoir  how do i do that?05:40
adaptrCore: then press "e" to edit the boot options, scroll to the kernel line, add "single" on the end, and press "b" to boot05:40
sc4ttrbrainjasin: u were talking to me?05:41
MasterShreki believe so, unless you have another os on that you can boot to so that your partition isnt mounted05:41
mnoirlumaQQ: 1 way: in terminal: gksudo nautilus05:41
Anderson!user05:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about user - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:41
Anderson!user admin05:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about user admin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:41
mnoirlumaQQ: there are others i think05:41
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Anderson!user administration05:41
Pierre_Nhas anyone tried ntfs-3g ?05:41
Coreadaptr: wow, secret option! i did not knew this05:41
jasinadduser -u05:41
jasinuse that05:41
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adaptrCore: nothing secret about it; man bootparams05:41
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Coreadaptr: even this is secret05:42
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nn531xtknight: I dont understand why rhythmbox wont work, why would they even put it on there to begin with?05:42
adaptrCore: sure, if you like05:42
Coreadaptr: the help of menu does not works fully05:42
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xtknightnn531: it's illegal to have mp3 support in by default05:42
sc4ttrbrainMasterShrek: cant i use fdisk?05:42
IdleOneHappy New Year All! what is the command to reconfigure xorg? least I believe thats what I need to dio because everything on my screen is way to big05:42
adaptrCore: sorry, that doesn't parse05:42
xtknightnn531: due to copyright laws i think, or something like that, but no linux distro can include it05:42
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Coreadaptr: some Fx keys does not work05:43
jasinmp3 is not illegal, pirating is.05:43
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MasterShreksc4ttrbrain maybe, can u resize using fdisk, ive never done it05:43
adaptrIdleOne: explain "too big"05:43
Coreadaptr: thanks guy05:43
nn531xtknight: i see, just another microsoft thing huh?05:43
adaptrCore: np05:43
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Coreadaptr: i'll do that05:43
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xtknightnn531: i guess....i think microsoft pays fraunhofer iis for permission to use mp305:43
MasterShreksc4ttrbrain if u can, then yes, but u just have to boot the live cd so your partition isnt mounted05:43
IdleOneadaptr,  my icons on desktop are about 2 times the size of what they were yesterday morning05:43
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Music_Shuffle!reconfigure X05:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about reconfigure X - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:43
Coreadaptr: and hope to talk again with you from Ubuntu, not Kurumim05:43
BrianB04nn531: What, MP3 not being included? Now that's a Fraunhofer thing.05:44
jasinnn531, like I told you, install vlc it'll do mp3 playback05:44
adaptrIdleOne: how does this relate to your screen resolution, i.e. what is it ?05:44
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Music_Shuffle!reconfigure05:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about reconfigure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:44
BrianB04s/now/no05:44
adaptrCore: best of luck then!05:44
nn531k05:44
jasinnn531, the page I gave you has instructions on installing it05:44
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nn531jasin: thepage wouldntwork for me05:44
sc4ttrbrainthanks05:44
nn531jasin: I cant view it correctly05:44
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IdleOneadaptr, resolution is 640*480 right now and I cant seem to change it. dont have other options05:44
jasinnn531, what wouldnt work? tell me05:44
Core--- All People ----: thanks, I'll be back to tell what happened. stay around!05:44
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Music_Shuffle!xconfig | IdleOne05:44
ubotuIdleOne: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"05:44
Andersonhow do i list all available user accounts?05:44
nn531jasin: hold on let me bringit up again05:45
samyboyHello. sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales does not give me a menu to configure my locales. how to get it ?05:45
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mnoirAnderson: in terminal 'cat /etc/passwd05:45
adaptrIdleOne: then something has screwed up your xorg config - you can force a reconfig by running "sudo Xorg -configure" from a console, but it won't be perfect05:45
MasterShrekhey does anyone know where i can get w32codecs at?05:45
mnoirw/o '05:45
Andersonmnoir, thanks05:45
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MasterShrek!w32codecs05:45
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:45
adaptrIdleOne: unless you've disabled DDC on xorg, in which case it won't be able to get the resolutions from you rmonitor05:45
mnoirAnderson: there is an admin function in gnome as well05:46
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nn531jasin: it wont let me view the entire page, I get to "For a normal install, do:" then I cant go down anyfurther05:46
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jasinnn531, use the instructions listed on the vlc ubuntu page not the debian, http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html05:46
IdleOneadaptr, I didnt disable anything05:46
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nn531jasin: k, I was wondering why you gave me the debian page05:47
adaptrIdleOne: well, try one or the other ways of reconfiguring your xorg.conf first, then see what it puts in the config file05:47
jjleeI just did a sudo aptitude purge mysql-server , but I still have mysqld and /etc/init.d scripts and /etc/rc.d symlinks -- anybody have a clue?05:47
LOQUILLO_I'm at home , again05:47
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slacker_nllo05:47
adaptrIdleOne: for any control over screen resolutions and refresh, you'll have to hand-edit xorg.conf anyway05:47
jasinnn531,  the instructions are this: 1. sudo apt-get update 2. sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd 3. sudo apt-get install libdvdcss205:47
adaptrhi05:47
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LOQUILLO_after of a long day of work05:47
nn531jasin:i cant update, not connected to the internet, dial up wont work with ubuntu05:47
slacker_nlquick question: if I want to add an entry for my removable disk to /etc/fstab, how do I specify to choose the filesystem type automaticly?05:48
Andersonmnoir, Yea, I removed that trying to fix something. I forgot about it though. I'll put it back on and see if that helps.05:48
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LOQUILLO_since 1:00 an until 11:30 am05:48
mnoirAnderson: anyway - the /etc files are all viewable :)05:48
jasinnn531, well you'll have to go online to install mp3 support, there is no mp3 support natively05:48
nn531k05:48
jasinnn531, vlc is just onhe player that supports mp305:49
LOQUILLO_woo, too many hours05:49
jasinnn531, vlc is just one player that supports mp305:49
nn531jasin: I did manage to install libdvdcss2 whatever05:49
jasinnn531, one of many05:49
Andersonmnoir, I'm trying to figure out why sudo is not working for my user account who is supposed to have admin privileges05:49
jasinnn531, how? you said you were not online05:49
LOQUILLO_I need eat and sleep05:49
nn531i used my external hard drive05:49
mnoirAnderson: are they in the admin group?  cat /etc/group(s?)05:49
jasinnn531, btw, thats the lib for dvd playback not mp305:49
nn531grr05:49
Stormx2nn531: What? Lots of music apps support MP3 natively...05:50
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Stormx2Bah05:50
Stormx2That was meant for jasin05:50
slacker_nlquick question: if I want to add an entry for my removable disk to /etc/fstab, how do I specify to choose the filesystem type automaticly?05:50
ikoniaLOQUILLO_: SHUT UP - you're saying the same text in every channel your in05:50
mnoirAnderson: or in the sudoers file?05:50
wvrlinuxwhere can i download JASS voor UBUNTU??05:50
jasinstormx, if they have the libraries installed, yes.05:50
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Andersonmnoir, I'll check05:50
Stormx2jasin: Incorrect.05:50
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mnoirAnderson: pref is for the admin group as it is simple05:51
jasinstromx, umm no, you need the mp3 library to playback mp3s05:51
jasinstromx, no way around that05:51
Stormx2jasin: BMP, BMPx and Audacious support MP3 playback in-the-box05:51
mnoirAnderson: sudoers allows finer control05:51
Akuma_is it possible to grant an application permanent access to the keyring?05:51
nn531jasin: i'll wait till I have my wireless later tonight05:51
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nn531jasin & xtknight: thanks alot05:51
amicrawleris there a edgy cd iso  not a dvd iso ?05:51
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Music_ShuffleYeah.05:52
killownanyone know dvdidle program for linux system?05:52
Music_Shuffle@ami05:52
nn531amicrawler: yeah, ubuntu's website has it05:52
jasinstormx2, and those are not installed by default are they? Like i originally said, he will have to download a media player that supports mp3 playback05:52
IdleOneadaptr, Music_Shuffle thanks for your help screen back to normal now :)05:52
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jasinstormx, come on man, you is not following along.05:52
Music_Shuffle:)05:52
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Akuma_amicrawler: i think if you get the torrent on ubuntu's website its a cd iso05:52
amicrawlerhttp://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/releases/6.10/release/  becuse i went here05:52
slacker_nlnevermind, auto did the job05:52
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wvrlinuxwhere can i download PLAY JASS voor UBUNTU??05:53
Andersonmnoir, When I look in the groups file I see root:X:0:(no users listed)    and further down I see my user's group and the user in his own group.05:53
amicrawleri downloaded the dvd iso and made it  know i need to know howto upgrade with out mess up my home dir with this dvd05:53
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Stormx2jasin: Right. But what you were saying is that you need certain libraries for mp3 playback in any media player. Thats wrong. The libraries for gstreamer to understand MP3 are not installed by default, but a lot of players don't have a gstreamer backend05:53
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mnoirAnderson: but no admin:x:somenumber:users?05:54
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Andersonmnoir, and no one under group adm or admin05:54
Stormx2wvrlinux: what is play jass? I've checked the repos, its not there05:54
wvrlinuxstormx: Jass is a card game05:54
mnoirAnderson: styrange - i hesitate to tell you to manually add it05:54
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mnoirbut....05:54
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Music_ShuffleStorkme, err...don't you need the LAME libs? ./Could just be confused.05:54
mnoiris admin defined in yout sudoers file?05:55
mnoiryout=your :)05:55
Andersonmnoir, What interests me though, is that when I use the GUI users-admin, the user is a member of the group 'root'05:55
adaptrmnoir, Anderson: I am a member of both adm and admin, they should definitely be in there05:55
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adaptrAnderson: which version are you on ?05:55
amicrawleri downloaded the dvd iso and made it  now i need to know. howto upgrade with out mess up my home dir with this dvd. is there a how to for this ?05:55
hehlolso. the kaymap on my R40 thinkpad is broken05:55
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mnoirAnderson: there is no security issue in groups - pls pastebin the file?05:56
adaptramicrawler: why not just upgrade over the Internet ?05:56
hehlol"u" prints "4"05:56
hehloletc05:56
amicrawleri can't05:56
Andersonmnoir, How do I pastebin?05:56
Seveashehlol, hit num lock05:56
mnoir!pastebin05:56
Anderson!pastebin05:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:56
adaptramicrawler: as pointed out earlier: gksu "update-manager -c"05:56
amicrawlersome of my05:56
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amicrawleri did that05:56
amicrawlererrors05:56
Stormx2wvrlinux: I'm not sure there are any implementations of it... you may have a look at emulating CyberJass... but otherwise I don't know05:56
adaptramicrawler: then just add the dvd to your sources.list05:56
mnoirAnderson: make sure to tell what the uri is :)05:57
amicrawlerhow?05:57
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wvrlinuxstormx2: i think that is the right one! anyidea where i can get it?05:57
Andersonmnoir, Gotcha =] 05:57
Stormx2http://www.cyberjass.com You will need WINE too.05:57
Stormx2!wine | wvrlinux05:57
ubotuwvrlinux: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:57
amicrawler<adaptr> how do i add my dvd to my src list ?05:58
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wvrlinux@all yep got it! and i've WINE installed too. thatnks for helping out!05:59
LOQUILLO_brb05:59
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mnoirAnderson: is the user in question one you added as you were installing?06:00
wvrlinuxubotu , stormx2: yep got it! and i've WINE installed too. thatnks for helping out!06:00
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Andersonmnoir, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/121/06:00
Andersonmnoir, yes06:00
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mnoirok - i see the missing value is missing06:01
amicrawler<adaptr> how do i add my dvd to my src list ?06:01
timo901how dose one use wine06:01
mnoiron line 46 add your user at end of line06:01
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mnoirline should begin admin:x:10606:01
eakrHi, i boot ubuntu cd on my laptop but is it possible to access my laptop harddrive?06:01
Music_Shuffle!mount06:01
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter06:01
eakrbut from LIVE CD06:02
mnoirtotal line should be: admin:x:106:bos06:02
timo901eakr:open a teminal !06:02
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mnoirsorry - you, NOT bos06:02
hehlolthanks for th numlock hint06:02
amicrawlerpeople  you tell me these things  but i do not know how to add my dvd to the src list .  i can add reg src stuff  but do not know to add a dvd to my src06:02
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hehlolnever had this issue before06:02
timo901type fdisk06:02
eakrfuck off06:03
Andersonmnoir, K, hold.06:03
IdleOnehehlol, share that numlock hint please :)06:03
timo901fdisck -l06:03
HymnToLife!language | eakr06:03
ubotueakr: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:03
eakrtimo you are bastard06:03
IdleOne!numlock06:03
ubotuTo enable Number Lock by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock06:03
mnoirAnderson: but even if we fix this, something is a little strange and I fear there might b other issues06:03
HymnToLife!ops06:03
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!06:03
timo901eakr:what ?06:03
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Andersonmnoir, this is the tip of the iceberg06:03
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mnoirAnderson: ??06:03
timo901eakr:i helping ?06:03
HymnToLifethaks apo :)06:03
Andersonmnoir, I had this hard drive installed in another system when I installed Ubuntu.06:03
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Andersonmnoir, I moved it to this system and have been trying to adapt it since.06:04
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mnoirAnderson: the value of what you are doing is a possible unnecessary education :)06:04
Andersonmnoir, Well, I haven't brought many issues here, mostly my touchscreen and touchpad.06:04
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mnoirbut carry on!06:04
Andersonmnoir, it's education =] 06:04
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adaptramicrawler: if you did not alter the original list the dapper CD is still in there.. just replace it with somehting that looks right for the edgy dvd06:05
mnoirok - so eith that addition, sudo should work06:05
timo901eakr:well ??06:05
adaptramicrawler: it has to be mounted first, and you'll have to do that06:05
mnoireith=with06:05
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amicrawlerok goto it06:05
Andersonmnoir, I have learned that other people have had similar issues with their touchpad. It's a strange problem too.06:05
amicrawlerin my src list06:05
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Andersonmnoir, Yea, that worked.06:05
amicrawlernow do i do a upgrade06:05
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mnoirAnderson: i hate my touch pad but the laptop is a second system for me06:06
auTONYmoustouchscreen is a tough one....06:06
Andersonmnoir, well I have a touchscreen too, but that is in worse working order than the touchpad06:06
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mnoirAnderson: and ssh-X puts it's windows on my desktop anyway :)06:06
timo901eakr: sudo fdisk -l06:07
auTONYmousAnderson: I got here late...what's the issue with the touchpad06:07
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AndersonI have found one set of drivers, Accelerated-X, that reportedly work GREAT with my laptop. But they aren't free.06:07
auTONYmoustimo901: he got banned for language...06:07
AndersonauTONYmous, the touchpad does a region select on the desktop instead of moving the cursor.06:07
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nivekzhello. here is a beginner's question. why can't input method be enabled in firefox by right click?06:08
AndersonauTONYmous, As if it were double clicking a place on the desktop that corresponded to the place I touch on the touchpad.06:08
auTONYmousAnderson: do you know the touchpad manufacturer and model # (Synaptics or otherwise)06:08
timo901:)thnks for telling me , he thou i had done some thing stupid with his hard drive? like wipe it clean06:08
mnoirAnderson: my touchpad works fine in 6.10 - would you like to see the definition?06:08
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AndersonauTONYmous, No, I've been looking, but haven't figured out how to find it out. There are no system specs with that information online either.06:08
auTONYmousAnderson: dmesg should tell you...06:09
Andersonmnoir, Sure.06:09
AndersonauTONYmous, sweet, is that all of the devices on my system?06:09
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auTONYmouswhatever got loaded at startup...if not, then /var/log/Xorg.log will tell what driver its using06:09
auTONYmouslspci shows all the devices06:10
timo901how do i use wine to play my game /media/window/GTR2:-P06:10
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AndersonauTONYmous, I've tried lspci to find the touchpad and the monitor, the closest I have come is the display adapter.06:10
CheshireVikingCan somebody help with this error trying to run glxgears "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".06:10
CheshireVikingError: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual06:10
CheshireViking" with nvidia drivers installed on Edgy06:10
auTONYmousI know...my touchpad is an extension of USB somehow...06:11
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auTONYmouscheck /var/log/Xorg.log06:11
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AndersonauTONYmous, What would it be described as, Touchpad? Pointing Device?06:11
auTONYmousInput device06:11
AndersonauTONYmous, is Xorg.0.log the same?06:12
auTONYmousyeah06:12
Andersonk06:12
mnoirAnderson: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/126/06:12
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Andersonmnoir, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/127/06:14
AndersonauTONYmous, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/127/06:14
LinTuxWhen I install KDE or XFCE my login screen goes out of sinc, how can I cure this06:14
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AndersonFrom the reading I've done, the wacom driver is used for a digitized input. Mine isn't digitized though. I'm also not booted under the kernel image with the problems.06:15
AndersonI'm on 5.X right now because I can at least use the touchpad.06:15
DicanderHow do I enable other resolutions than the three default desktop resolutions?06:15
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mnoirAnderson: i dunno this stuff so well but it looks unhappy06:16
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HymnToLife!resolution | Dicander06:16
ubotuDicander: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:16
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auTONYmousAnderson: your touchpad isn't synaptics06:18
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superkirbyartistAnyone can help me with Criawips?06:18
AndersonauTONYmous, No, I think the other system I used had a synaptic.06:18
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kuruminHello06:18
auTONYmousI think Xorg is picking up your touchpad device as a Wacom tablet, so its working wrong06:18
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mnoirAnderson: then my snippet is useless to you  :)06:18
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kurumindfsd06:19
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LinTuxWhen I install KDE or XFCE my login screen goes out of sinc, how can I cure this06:19
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AndersonYeah, I don't know how to figure out who the touchpad is made by though.06:19
CoreHELLO!!!06:19
CoreDo you remember me?06:19
CoreCore2Duo06:19
elihello.!!06:19
HymnToLife!resolution | LinTux06:20
ubotuLinTux: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:20
Corextknight: hello06:20
jackson3246does anybody know a way to easily (like with openoffice) separate the (html formatted) bold words in a document from the normally-formatted words?06:20
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auTONYmousAnderson: Look into "System -> Administration -> Device Manager" and look for your touchpad device06:20
Core--- All People --- : someone can help me06:21
jackson3246nevermind I've found it. sorry for the trouble06:21
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Core--- All People --- : Ubuntu 6.06 does not boot in my PC06:21
AndersonauTONYmous, k06:21
pengulordok06:21
LinTuxthanks HymnToLife & ubotu06:21
pengulordis it the disk06:21
Core--- All People --- : Ubuntu 6.06 does not boot in my PC06:21
pengulordhave you installed it06:21
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IndyGunFreakCore, why doesn't it boot?06:21
Music_Shuffle!error06:21
ubotuPlease elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)06:21
HymnToLife!thank you | LinTux06:21
ubotuLinTux: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)06:21
killownwhat is dvd-ram?06:21
CoreIndyGunFreak: that's whatr i want to find out06:22
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IndyGunFreakCore, My car won't start.. Why?06:22
CoreIndyGunFreak: after the boot menu he says:06:22
pengulordbecouse you suck lol indy06:22
Music_Shufflekillown, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-RAM06:22
mnoirIndyGunFreak: try upg car to SUSE06:22
IndyGunFreakneed a lot more info than just, "it won't start"06:22
CoreIndyGunFreak: Uncompressing Linux.....OK Booting the kernel06:22
HymnToLife!language | pengulord06:22
ubotupengulord: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:22
AndersonauTONYmous, Nothin, there are a bunch of unnamed things on the PCI and USB bus though.06:22
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IndyGunFreakanoir..lol, no thanks06:22
killownthanks06:22
Maul555ive got a problem...06:22
CoreIndyGunFreak: then bellow a cursor blinks forever06:23
Music_Shuffle!anyone | Maul55506:23
ubotuMaul555: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?06:23
pengulordwe all do06:23
auTONYmouslook for "PS/2" entries06:23
nolimitsoyaMaul555, i thought you would. why else would you be here?06:23
AndersonauTONYmous, and 2 generic mouse/ps/2 devices06:23
Maul555I installed my ati drivers, and now when it tries to startx, i get a blank screen, but can hear the os booting up behind it...06:23
Music_ShuffleHaha06:23
gilnimI need DRM for my Opera Browser - how do I get it?06:23
pengulordz0mg spamage06:23
superkirbyartistI still have a dependency probem when I try to install Criawips, but only one, not four.06:23
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auTONYmousAnderson: Generic, eh?06:23
Music_Shuffle!DRM06:23
pengulordcant read so fast06:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about DRM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:23
Music_ShuffleO_o06:23
nolimitsoyaMaul555, boot recoverymode and reconfugre your xserver06:23
CoreAnderson: brasileiro cara?06:23
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Maul555how06:23
Music_Shufflepengulord, read faster! xD06:23
IndyGunFreaki dont think DRM works with Linux, i could be wrong.06:23
gilnimDRM = Digital Right Management06:23
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nolimitsoyaMaul555, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:23
IndyGunFreakat least i don't know ho to do it.06:23
pengulordlol easy fix right music?06:23
Music_Shuffle;)06:23
Maul555awsome, ill try that, thx06:23
AndersonCore, Que?06:24
gilnimIndyGunFreak: Actually I'm in Windows atm06:24
AndersonauTONYmous, Yup, checking detailed info.06:24
Music_Shuffle!windows | gilnim06:24
ubotugilnim: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents06:24
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CoreAnderson: nada, s  legal achar um brasileiro06:24
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CoreAnderson: po bem que tu podia me ajudar :P06:24
Music_Shuffle!en06:24
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat06:24
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Music_Shuffle:P06:24
mnoir!br | Core06:24
ubotuCore: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.06:24
killownhow I do to switch xchat standard browser galeon for firefox06:24
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IndyGunFreakgilnim, my bad, i guess since this is a LINUX forum, I thought your question pertained to Linux06:24
gilnimMusic_Shuffle: :P06:25
killownhow I do to switch xchat standard browser galeon for firefox?06:25
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AndersonauTONYmous, nothing identifying the manufacturer06:25
gilnimIndyGunFreak: It does!06:25
defcon8what is the meta package to install gcc and the like?06:25
Coresorry06:25
pengulordim going to miss mirc when i go linux06:25
HymnToLife!repeat killown06:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about repeat killown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:25
xtknightdefcon8: build-essential06:25
superkirbyartistCan someone help me with dependancy problem please?06:25
defcon8thanks06:25
Music_Shuffle!repeat | killown06:25
Corehow do you know it's pt? :)06:25
ubotukillown: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience06:25
tomplastDoes anyone here have problems with accessing MSN and Jabber through Gaim atm? I can only use IRC atm O_o06:25
drivera90!equivalents06:25
ubotuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant06:25
IndyGunFreakpengulord, just use x-chat, they look almost identical to me06:25
pengulordo ok06:25
Music_Shuffletomplast, I access Jabber ok.06:25
pengulordgoods06:25
Corehelp me!06:25
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Music_ShuffleWith what?06:26
HymnToLifeX chat is a million times better than mIRC in every possible way06:26
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CoreCore 2 Duo, D946, DDR2 533, SATA206:26
max_him06:26
pengulordwhat core2duo06:26
Music_ShuffleYou have to realize, in a channel like this, most people have the attention span of a chipmunk. Saying 'help me' is just a bad idea.06:26
CoreMy beautiful machine does not boot up any SO!06:26
Music_ShuffleAnd what about that system?06:26
IndyGunFreakHymnToLife, i dont' k now, they seem similar to me, but no reason to freak about losing MIRC, when we have X-chat06:26
CoreI have no many options06:26
superkirbyartisttomplast, what version?06:26
CoreDebian, Turbo Linux and Ubuntu, the newer06:26
Music_ShuffleIndyGunFreak, Indeed. <3 XChat06:27
IndyGunFreakbut its been YEARS since i used MIRC..,06:27
Music_ShuffleIt doesn't boot off the LiveCD?06:27
tomplastsuperkirbyartist: 2.0.0beta3.106:27
tomplastsuperkirbyartist: Ubuntu 6.1006:27
IndyGunFreak!bomb06:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bomb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:27
tomplastsuperkirbyartist: It do normally work.06:27
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max_hi, newbe to linux... is it possible to make the icons in most applications smaller ? I have a laptop with a small screen and huge icons take too much space.06:27
IndyGunFreakmax06:27
xtknightmax_: right click , stretch icon?06:27
IndyGunFreakin Ubuntu, irght click, choose stretch icon06:27
IndyGunFreakthen make them smaller.06:28
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IndyGunFreakyou can't do that in Kubuntu, at least that i've found, but Xubuntu/Ubuntu does it.06:28
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tomplasta restart of gaim fixed my problems :)06:28
superkirbyartisttomplast: Strange, I have Gaim using MSN /AIM/ICQ, are you at school, university, job?06:28
Music_Shuffle:)06:28
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tomplastIm at home btw so i guess that was some bug or something :)06:28
max_sorry - not actually icons but menus - visual representations of usual menu options in many applications06:28
MareloHello! I've just installed unreal tournament on my laptop but the game is to slow! Even in the menus, the mouse movement... What could the problem be??06:28
tomplastsuperkirbyartist: thank you for your time :).06:29
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IcedEarthare you using XGL>06:29
xtknightmarelo: you need 3d accelerated video drivers06:29
IcedEarth?06:29
IndyGunFreakmax_, another thing that may work, is find the icon file on your PC, open it with GIMP and use the resize function to resize the icon, then save, then change the icon using right click/properties06:29
szymon_hi06:29
superkirbyartistNow can someone help me with Criawips dependancy?06:29
IndyGunFreakbut the right click, stretch icon, certainly seems easiest06:29
xtknightstretch icon doesnt work for the menus06:29
superkirbyartistAnyone can help with dependancies?06:29
IndyGunFreakthe menus?06:29
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xtknighti think he wants "small icons" like windows06:29
szymon_sorry for (maybe) stupid question: where can i find a program envy (for Nvidia drivers)?06:29
Mareloxtknight: how can i set up that? my vid card is a Intel Mobile i91506:29
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auTONYmousAnderson: dmesg|grep input06:30
IcedEarthdont know what dependancies  do u need help wif?06:30
IndyGunFreakonh you want the icons in your menu smaller.06:30
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AndersonauTONYmous, k06:30
max_<xtknight> yes06:30
Ploujwhat are some audio file format conversion programs available for Ubuntu?06:30
szymon_i've tried all ways to install drivers but only this worked06:30
pengulordcore06:30
szymon_google is not my friend :-/06:30
superkirbyartistPlease?06:30
xtknightszymon: an envy program? im confused06:30
max_don't really care if the layout is as in "Windows" or not but just want it smaller..06:30
IndyGunFreakmax_, use Xubuntu, it has the smallest menu icons on the planet...lol06:31
superkirbyartist:( no one can help me with dependancy06:31
auTONYmousAnderson: also: dmesg|grep PS06:31
Corepengulord: hey06:31
IcedEarthsuperkirbyartist outline your problem06:31
AndersonauTONYmous, it reports 2 generic mouses (mice)06:31
Mareloxtknight: how can i set up that? my vid card is a Intel Mobile i91506:31
auTONYmousAnderson: (The second one gave me the mouse device ID)06:31
xtknightmarelo: uhhhh i believe intel has accelerated drivers, i am not sure exactly06:31
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pengulordtalk to me in pm core06:31
max_IndyGunFreak> - i would try it but is there a chance that it will screw my ubuntu?06:31
xtknightbrb06:32
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Ferretwhat06:32
IndyGunFreakah, i guess its possible, but i have all 3 desktops on my PC, and its fine(you just install the desktop enviro, you don't have to download and install Xubunt)06:32
IndyGunFreakbut that may be an extreme way to go about fixing this.06:32
AndersonauTONYmous, no device ID, I see input ID Input2 and INput 406:32
IndyGunFreaki just can't see where to size the menu icons06:32
Mareloxtknight: well, then, what can I do? the drivers is the latest from ubuntu repository (and they told me here last night that Intel released GPL theirs drivers, so the ubuntu repository version is, in a way, official drivers)06:32
Music_ShuffleAnything is possible.  Its not PROBABLE.06:32
max_I tried kubuntu -fine but I see in my ubuntu installation lots of kununtu progs which i dont really want to see06:32
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auTONYmousAnderson: what's the make/model of the laptop06:33
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tarzeauCAN YOU STOP SENDING THE IDIOTS TO #DEBIAN PLEASE. HAPPY NEW YEAR06:33
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AndersonauTONYmous, Panasonic Toughbook CF-1806:33
Music_Shuffle...06:33
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IndyGunFreakMusic_Shuffle, you're such a positive thinker06:33
Music_Shuffle!caps | tarzeau06:33
AndersonauTONYmous, this too PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:K101,PNP0f13:MOU2]  at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,1206:33
ubotutarzeau: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.06:33
IndyGunFreaki'd like to probably find the guy who broke into my truck this morning and possibly kick his ass06:33
IndyGunFreaklol06:33
tarzeaucan you stop sending the fucking idiots to #debian please. happy new year06:34
auTONYmousAnderson: heh, I wanted one of those...06:34
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Music_Shuffle!language | tarzeau06:34
ubotutarzeau: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:34
AndersonauTONYmous, I got a good deal on ebay06:34
adaptrtarzeau: it's very impolit eto refer to them as "idiots"; we fondly refer to them as "newcomers"06:34
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pengulordwhere arnt so stfu06:34
superkirbyartistIcedEarth: I am currently using apt-get to install Ekiga but when I install Criawips I have a dependancy problem with libdbus.06:34
IndyGunFreaktarzeau, little stressed?06:34
MareloHello! I've just installed unreal tournament on my laptop but the game is to slow! Even in the menus, the mouse movement... What could the problem be??06:34
adaptrtarzeau: and you can take that language back to #debian on your way out06:34
max_well I have backed up my system (hopefully succesfully) no I can try out xubuntu..06:34
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Music_Shuffle!stfu | pengulord06:34
ubotupengulord: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.06:34
Music_Shuffle;P06:34
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pengulord:|06:34
tarzeauadaptr: fuck off06:34
IcedEarthEkiga being the internet phone program06:34
IndyGunFreakMusic_Shuffle, is the king of ubotu i do believe06:35
IcedEarthwhat version of Ubuntu u got?06:35
tarzeauIndyGunFreak: yes it's stressing06:35
noodles12My ubuntu used to display on my tv. via s-video cable without any modifications, i just plug in and it shows up. a month later i do the same thing and it doesnt' show up. How would i display my screen on a t.v. via s-video?06:35
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Music_Shuffle!language | tarzeau06:35
ubotutarzeau: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:35
maul555_Ok, im back into my installation with gui, thank god...06:35
superkirbyartist!language | tarzeau06:35
Music_ShuffleBeat you to it :P06:35
maul555_but how do i keep that from happening again?06:35
chiklitAnyone know why the default sound card settings under System > Preferences > Sound don't stick when I close the window?06:35
tarzeau!repeat | superkirbyartist06:35
ubotusuperkirbyartist: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience06:35
Ferretsuperkirbyartist: He can't help it, he's from the int-- I mean debian06:35
IndyGunFreakMusic_Shuffle, who was theguy the other night who was gonna install every single package so he coud; see how much diskspace it took06:35
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Music_ShuffleIndyGunFreak, Gun_Smoke I think it was.06:36
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IndyGunFreaki was wondering how that went...lol06:36
superkirbyartistSo IcedEarth: There is no problem with Ekiga, just some with Criawips.06:36
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Music_ShuffleHaven't seen him since, but its been a busy couple days, so I dunno.06:36
chiklitIt keeps listing my TV card as my default sound card.06:36
IndyGunFreakMusic_Shuffle, that might be a bad sign...lol06:36
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Music_ShuffleEither total disaster, or his other events took priority, could be either I guess :P06:37
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IndyGunFreakyeah, i hope not disaster06:37
IndyGunFreakyou have to admit, he'll never have a dependancy problem..lol06:37
pengulordwow this room is total chaos06:37
superkirbyartistEveryone can forget what I said about Ekiga.06:37
Music_ShuffleNot total chaos. ORGANIZED chaos.06:37
IndyGunFreaksuperkirbyartist, already did06:37
pengulordok sorry lol06:37
Music_Shuffle;)06:37
n2diySpontaneous Confusion.06:38
nillesoARGH, ubuntu keeps overwriting motd with it's own... How do I stop that? =/06:38
tarzeauadaptr: and YOU ARE A FUCKING TROLL06:38
Coreadaptr: HELLO GUY06:38
IndyGunFreaktarzeau, you really need to take a paxil06:38
MareloHello! I've just installed unreal tournament on my laptop but the game is to slow! Even in the menus, the mouse movement... What could the problem be??06:38
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Coreadaptr: remember me?06:38
tarzeauadaptr: CUM EATING BITCH OF AN ASSHOLE06:38
Music_Shuffle!ops06:38
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!06:38
adaptrCore: hiya06:38
xtknightlol06:38
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superkirbyartistIndyGunFreak: Okay, so does that mean you can help me with libdbus?  If you can't that's okay.06:38
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IndyGunFreaksuperkirbyartist, no sorry06:39
avistahelp06:39
Music_ShuffleThank you Seveas.06:39
avistawith samba06:39
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avistahow do I access the vista box06:39
avistasamba's configured06:39
IndyGunFreakno kiddin, he was a little high strung...lol06:39
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avistaI can see both PCs on both computers06:39
Seveasnilleso, check the crontabs, it's somewhere in there06:39
Music_ShuffleSlightly high-strung. :P06:39
nillesoThanks Seveas06:39
xtknightmarelo: http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-010512.htm06:39
avistabut I get asked for a password on the linux box to get to the vista box06:39
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IndyGunFreakSeveas, so how long do bans stay in place?06:39
superkirbyartistIndyGuyFreak: It's okay, thank you for trying ^_^06:39
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Mareloxtknight: thanks. i'm going to have a look06:40
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avistacan anyone help06:40
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Coreadaptr: disabling USB doesn't works :(06:40
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Coreadaptr: the same happens06:41
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adaptrCore: no idea what you mean, I think you're confusing me06:41
vleonhellow06:41
mnoirnilleso: look at /etc/default/rcS06:41
quasar8888where do I find a driver for my lexmark printer?06:41
ugaritwhat's the name for the 6.10 version of ubuntu?06:41
xtknightadaptr: he has a core 2 duo system and disabling usb is supposed to fix one of the chipset issues06:41
Seveasugarit, Edgy Eft06:41
vleonall im going to install xubuntu but its a relevant question for ubuntu also06:41
IndyGunFreakugarit, edgy eft06:42
adaptrxtknight: I know that.l but I never ever mentioned USb to him06:42
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vleoni was wondering what is the best file system to use?06:42
adaptrvleon: for which purpose ?06:42
IndyGunFreakugarit, next one is Feisty fawn, or some cray06:42
IndyGunFreakcrap like that06:42
ugaritThanks06:42
vleonwell i dont know actually06:42
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Corextknight: hello, you do remember me!06:42
ugaritwhen is the next one coming out06:42
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xtknightvleon: ext3 for most purpoes06:42
vleonon my ubuntu that is on a very strong comp06:42
jbroomeapril06:42
IndyGunFreakaroudn 4-5 mo probably06:42
skarfacecan anyone tell me why gnome might be ignoring my session startup and the shortcut keys no longer work?06:42
adaptrvleon: then just accept whatever *buntu suggests06:42
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Corextknight: another suggestion?06:43
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xtknightCore: yeah i do :P  you'll have to try a newer distro with the 2.6.18 kernel.  dapper or edgy will not work06:43
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vleoni play games, download big files (sometimes more than 4 gb)06:43
mwe!release06:43
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases06:43
LinTuxI have installed the core KDE desktop, it does not have a screen res setting, what elso do i need to install06:43
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xtknightcore: dapper and edgy will not work on core 2 duo system without a LOT of trouble06:43
vleonlisten to music and wath muvies06:43
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Mareloxtknight: what case do i fit in? "Intel driver for X.org", "DRM kernel module" or "Mesa 3D GL driver"? I'm on this page: http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html06:43
vleonthe xubuntu comp have the same porpuses but its a p306:43
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Corextknight: if i could at least install something and then get the kernel06:43
auTONYmousavista: I'm having the same prob with Samba against a Vista box...no ideas yet06:44
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Corextknight: what's the size of your kernels?06:44
IndyGunFreaki think PC's are finally getting to fast06:44
adaptrMarelo: mesa is horrid - it's a software GL renderer06:44
xtknightmarelo: Mesa 3D GL driver i think06:44
linuxnewbie756is it possible to use lightscribe in ubuntu?06:44
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xtknightmarelo: no i take that back06:44
auTONYmouslinuxnewbie756: Yep06:44
Corextknight:  i'm on a dialed conn06:44
linuxnewbie756how?06:44
Mareloxtknight: hehehe so...?06:44
mweIndyGunFreak: too fast?06:44
vleonabout the same topic, amule doesnt want to download big files, im using an ext3, is it an amule problem or a filesystem one?06:44
xtknightmarelo: x.org 2d driver maybe? i dont know if intel even has accelerated 3d06:44
Corextknight: the funny thin is:06:45
adaptrvleon: amule06:45
auTONYmouslinuxnewbie756: I forget which (nerolinux, gnomebaker or otherwise), but one of the burning programs supports it06:45
mwextknight: it does06:45
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Corextknight: my Kurumim DO works06:45
vleongreat thanx06:45
LinTuxI have installed the core KDE desktop, it does not have a screen resolution setting, what elso do i need to install to get this in terminal?06:45
adaptrxtknight: accelerated Intel video is supported through the DRI interface of xorg06:45
vleonthen i should use ext 4 for both my os?06:45
Corextknight: it just don't recognize SATA :(06:45
CoreLinTux: soory06:45
mwextknight: the i8xx-i9xx do have accelerated 3d at least06:45
CoreLinTux: what do you mean?06:45
CoreLinTux: i'm in trouble too06:46
Marelomwe: nice to hear06:46
linuxnewbie756autonymous, i have a hp drive, and before you can actually use that software, you have to download somesort of lightscribe software, and off the lightscribe.com website, only rpm is supported06:46
Marelowhat could i do in that case, then?06:46
skarfacecan anyone tell me why gnome might be ignoring my session startup and the shortcut keys no longer work?06:46
CoreLinTux: with C2D06:46
LinTuxi cannot alter the screen res in control centre, do I need to install another prog to get it06:46
Corextknight: and a very old version06:46
auTONYmouslinuxnewbie756: man alien06:46
vleonthen i should use ext 4 for both my os?06:46
Corextknight: it detected both cores06:46
xtknightCore: uhh, my 2.6.19 kernel ( here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326343 ) is roughly 25 megs total06:46
mwe!fixres | LinTux06:46
ubotuLinTux: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:47
linuxnewbie756but is that safe? has anyone verified it works for lightscribe?06:47
vleonnevermind06:47
auTONYmouslinuxnewbie756: alien will (possibly) allow you convert the RPM to a .deb06:47
LinTuxI tried that UBOTU06:47
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vleonthanks for the help :)!06:47
auTONYmouslinuxnewbie756: Then you can install on Ubuntu06:47
xtknightCore: that should be what 2 hours on dialup?  But it may be worth it...but u still can not boot dapper or edgy by the way06:47
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Corextknight: 25MB at 5KB/s...06:48
mweinstalling random converted rpms is not a good idea in general unles it's impossible to find a .deb for ubuntu06:48
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auTONYmousmwe: In his case, it probably is impossible06:48
deathplanteri got no sound on ubuntu using xserver tools,although mpg321 is able to play mp3s and i can hear them. what could be wrong?06:48
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HymnToLifeand even so, installing from source is usually safer06:48
Cyphercan any one tell where i can find online lpi exam06:48
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jasinhi06:49
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n2diyCypher: Google?06:49
Corextknight: yeah06:49
mweyeah if the source code is available installing from source is a lot safer06:49
maul555woot.. it worked06:49
Cypherhi man06:49
Cypheri did06:49
Corextknight: 1,5 h06:49
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skarfacedeathplanter: check your PCI volume06:49
Cypheri just want to scale my self06:49
maul555needless to say it was user error,....06:49
skarfacecan anyone tell me why gnome might be ignoring my session startup and the shortcut keys no longer work?06:49
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Corextknight: i'm thinkig a way to install this kernel from Kurumim06:49
jasinwhy is installing from a package unsafe?06:49
deathplanterskarface: it's all set to max06:49
xtknightCore: but that kernel is only useful if you already have linux installed06:49
Corextknight: yeah06:50
mnoirCypher: just a theory: google 'online lpi exam'06:50
Corextknight: ...06:50
jasin.deb just contain source code06:50
Cypherlet me check06:50
jasintheir easy ti peerk inside of06:50
jasinto*06:50
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Corextknight: another way is to update Kurumim on the RAM!06:50
mwejasin: .debs don't contain source code.06:51
xtknightCore: ahh ok, hope it works06:51
Cyphermnoir : thnx06:51
mwejasin: they contain binary code06:51
dustigroovehttp://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/lpi/index.html06:51
Corextknight: so that it recognizes SATA06:51
xtknightmwe: debs can contain source sometimes06:51
dustigroovelpi prep info on ibm's website06:51
Corextknight: sorry06:51
mnoirjasin: the deb pkgs do not contain src, only the deb-src repos do06:51
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mwextknight: yeah source .debs06:51
psynaps3Hi, can someone please tell me the shortcut key to check the cube effect in compiz? I have GL desktop enabled. Ctrl+Alt+L/R arrow doesn't seem to be working.06:51
Cyphercan i take it online06:51
deathplanterskarface: http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/8437/zrzutekranuxg2.png what could that mean?06:51
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CorePeople, Ubuntu does not works with C2D06:51
deathplanterpsynaps3: so you got no compiz on ;p06:51
mwextknight: the things you install with apt-get don't contain source code unless you specifically ask for it06:52
IcedEarthpsynaps3 make sure the 3D cube desktop is enabled06:52
IcedEarthin the beryl settings06:52
CoreThat Ugly!06:52
Mareloxtknight: what could i do in that case, then? am I doomed to not play UT in linux? :(06:52
jasinDebian packages are standard Unix ar archives06:52
xtknightmwe: yeah i believe you can get the source with apt-get source06:52
psynaps3IcedEarth: where do i check that?06:52
CoreAnd Windows XP?06:52
skarfacedeathplanter: don't know. you have no mixer options?06:52
mwextknight: right06:52
jasinI know what debian packages are06:52
psynaps3deathplanter: i have the wobbly effect working fine :)06:52
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xtknightmwe: but correct the source is not in the regular debs, just that some people to put the source in debs (not debian or ubuntu maintainers though)06:52
mwejasin: but you said they're just source which is not correct06:52
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IcedEarthsystem preferences Beryl Settings manager06:52
l33t#join ubuntu-xgl06:52
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deathplanterskarface: rather no mixers06:53
psynaps3IcedEarth: I am using Compiz, not Beryl06:53
xtknightMarelo: i am really not sure, sorry.  consider getting a discrete 3D graphics card06:53
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IcedEarthah06:53
IcedEarthcant help you then06:53
xtknightMarelo: such as NVIDIA GeForce or ATI Radeon06:53
skarfacedeathplanter: right... well I guess you could try reinstalling alsa or something06:53
mwextknight: that's my point. .debs are not just source code though source .debs contain source code06:53
Core---- Does someone have had trouble with 6.06LTS + SATA/Core2Duo?06:53
Core---- Does someone have had trouble with 6.06LTS + SATA/Core2Duo?06:53
Core---- Does someone have had trouble with 6.06LTS + SATA/Core2Duo?06:53
dustigrooveout of curiosity, is there a way i might be missing to use safe graphics mode from the 6.10 alternate install cd? i want to enable the vesa driver by default (autodetect uses ati) and am performign a custom installation (ie - don't want to use the live cd)06:53
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mweCore: repeating will get you kicked, likely06:53
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skarfacedeathplanter: right... well I guess you could try reinstalling alsa or something06:53
skarfaceoops06:53
xtknightdustrigroove: i believe safe graphics mode is broken on edgy06:53
Coremwe: sorry06:54
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xtknightCore: plenty of people have the problem, not just you06:54
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Mareloxtknight: sigh... but at the store i bought it, there were customers opinios saying that they played several games just fine... game still newer than UT.06:54
dustigroovethanks06:54
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xtknightMarelo: ok, intel i915 correct?06:54
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jasinlibdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb contains source code, its under the compressed file inside data.tar.gz06:54
Mareloxtknight: actually i used to play UT in a 16 mb video card, win 98, with 128 ram06:54
Mareloxtknight: yeah, that's right06:54
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Corextknight: so there's nothing more I can do here beyound you told me?06:54
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progekcan someone help me print with gvim? When I attempt it I get: E365 Failed to print PostScript file... I can't find the with google either.06:55
jasina lot of debian packages do contain source code06:55
xtknightCore: you will have to install fedora core 6 or opensuse 10.2, no current Ubuntu has support for your board, sorry06:55
progekanswer^06:55
Coremwe: I'm sad coz I want to use ubuntu but he don't recognize my machine06:55
xtknightCore: it is either that or installing ubuntu from a USB CDROM or ethernet06:55
psynaps3ah, got it working :) not to find out which option got it right...06:55
pengulordyea core 2 duo mobos dont mix with linux06:55
xtknightCore: i am running Edgy on a core 2 duo but i had to go through lots of trouble06:56
mwejasin: if that's the case it's a rare exception to the rule for none source .debs06:56
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xtknightMarelo: i think the included xorg drivers for intel can enable DRI (acceleration) for the i91506:56
jasinwhy do you people have problems with usb? Usb has been suported by the kernel for quit some time now.06:56
psynaps3xtknight: why is that? i din't have any problems with my core206:56
mwejasin: apt-get this and that is not supposed to get the source06:56
xtknightjasin: it's a chipset/core 2 duo problem06:56
Mareloxtknight: and how can i do it. the last drivers from repository are already installed06:56
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xtknightpsynaps3: only boards with jmicron controllers and BIOSes with screwed irq routings have issues06:56
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jasinmwe, apt-get what?06:57
mwejasin: anything06:57
psynaps3xtknight: ah fine06:57
jasinxtknight, i see06:57
mwejasin: only apt-get source foo should get the source06:57
jasinmwe lol06:57
Corextknight: fedora core 6 and Suse 10.2 are paid?06:57
auTONYmouscore: no.06:57
xtknightCore: no they are free, sues is called opensuse 10.2 (the free one is)06:57
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Corextknight: a guy on my work loves Suse06:57
AndersonauTONYmous, no luck with the justineclarke site06:57
jasinfedora core 6 is free, you can freely download the iso's all over06:57
mwejasin: it's true though. unless you specify apt-get source you don't get the source06:58
Rioi want to set up my vsftpd server as described by K.Mandla at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91887.html, where i would disallow anonymous logins and allow certain users.  so, my question is, where can i find the two files vsftpd.user_list and vsftpd.ftpusers?  are these files supposed to be created, and if yes, where should i put it?06:58
IcedEarthdont use SuSE yast is horrible06:58
mnoirmwe - do you know where they hid the source parm in synaptic - i cannot find it :)06:58
xtknightCore: the next version of Ubuntu should support core 2 duo without issues06:58
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peral2007cmo conectar con IRC-HISPANO?06:58
jasinmwe, i know what you is talking about now.06:58
IcedEarthdo you know how long it takes to get rpms from a repository06:58
Corextknight: when it will be released?06:58
progekanyone here use gvim as their text editor?06:58
jasinmwe, yeah, thats true06:58
mwemnoir: I don't use synaptic, sorry. I'm the command line kind06:58
auTONYmousAnderson: I'm at a loss. It appears your touchpad IS synaptics, but the xorg drivers don't support that particular model06:58
alecjw!es | peral200706:58
ubotuperal2007: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:58
mnoirmwe :)06:58
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HardDisk_WPhello06:58
Corextknight: i just can't wait06:58
xtknightCore: you could also download Debian with a modified kernel, these worked awesome for me.  debian is much like ubuntu: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/06:58
jasinmew, have to download the src's06:58
Corextknight: my Kurumim works, but is old!06:58
auTONYmousAnderson: you might be stuck with a USB mouse06:58
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HardDisk_WPdoes anyone here know a teletext viewer for debian othert than alevt?06:59
Corextknight: and runs only by CD06:59
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jasinI dont download source code with apt-get I get it with wget06:59
xtknightCore: try the debian images i linked above06:59
xtknightcore: try sarge-custom-1023.iso06:59
Mareloxtknight: sorry for bugging you, I can see you are pretty requisited here, but are you look over my issue?06:59
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xtknightMarelo: its ok i need to keep myself busy ;)   sorry i am really not sure how to intel i915 dri off the top of my head07:00
Corextknight: ok07:00
xtknightMarelo: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/df-support/8211/ENG/relnotes.htm07:00
dustigroove/exit07:00
mwejasin: I see. apt-get source will get you any patches that are installed in ubuntu as well though07:00
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jasinif i'm going to install a new kernel I wont even attempt doing it with apt-get i'll download the src from kernel.org with wget directly and compile it myself.07:00
mwejasin: but I'd say it's sane in some cases. in other cases not ;)07:00
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mwejasin: Yeah that's what I do as well07:01
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jasinmwe, that sthe bets way to do it07:01
jasinbest*07:01
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Mareloxtknight: thanks. but what distro should i download? there's no debian, nor ubuntu...07:01
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mwejasin: I believe the ubuntu kernel contains quite a few patches to the vanilla sources though07:01
Corextknight: 120 MB!07:01
Corextknight: and i have no CD to burn!07:02
auTONYmousI've always wanted to get my hands on the Ubuntu patches07:02
auTONYmousnever had any luck07:02
pengulordlol07:02
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xtknightMarelo: uhhhh gee i have no idea.  type lspci and get the exact model..is it i915GM or something?  it seems like theres some suffix to i91507:02
Corextknight: well, I think i will not be able to use my power machine today07:02
mnoirmwe - good point - you should go outside the ubuntu cocoon only if necessary07:02
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xtknightCore: i guess not, you will need a cd for that debian07:02
xtknight!dri07:03
ubotudri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.07:03
mwemnoir: yeah or be prepared to fix your own problems ;)07:03
chablehey07:03
mnoir:)))07:03
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jasinI like the command line, its one of the many things I love about linux07:03
Corextknight: and about our trouble, did not you have written a how-to?07:03
Mareloxtknight: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 04)07:03
chableis there a good way of installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu 6.10 desktop07:03
chablei mean the one u got from nvidia.com07:03
xtknightCore: i have only written what i linked to you .. i may write more on the core 2 duo issue.  im still debugging jmicron problems07:03
chableC crashes07:04
chableX07:04
xtknightMarelo: thanks thats what i needed07:04
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Corextknight: ok07:04
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siv0xCan anoyne lead me to a PROPER install for wine/steam/counter strike?07:04
xtknightMarelo: try http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Download07:04
jasinmwe, yes but its only in version 2.6.17.1-10.3407:05
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siv0xI've installed it before.. but no luck on getting sound on cs:s. :\07:05
xtknightchable: what's the Xorg log say07:05
Corextknight: if would exist a way to "run" the iso as it was a cd...07:05
mwejasin: I know07:05
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chablextknight i didnt checked , i got mad07:05
mwejasin: do you need anything in 2.6.19 ?07:05
xtknightchable: old logs are saved and they end with .0 i think07:05
xtknightchable: in /var/log/07:05
jasinmwe, its several versions behind the latest stable release on kernel.org07:05
xtknightCore: you can mount an iso if that's what you mean but i'm not sure how that would help07:05
chablextknight, im not on ubuntu anymore07:05
jasinmwe, some07:05
AmadeoAnyone happen to know if my Plantronics DSP-500 would be supported in Ubuntu? The DSP functionality and in-line control are important to me :)07:05
chablei removed it and put another distro07:05
Mareloxtknight: thanks. what you advise a novice like me do? the binarys or the source?07:06
xtknightMarelo: binary07:06
chableIF i install ubuntu server 6.1007:06
chablei have no problem instaloing those drivers07:06
chablebut on desktop , X crashes07:06
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asteroidhi07:06
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chableif i apt-get install nvidia-glx bla , it works07:06
Corextknight: humm...07:06
mwejasin: I see. then compiling your own kernel is a good idea. I don't see the point if it's only to make sure you are using the latest, though07:06
Corextknight: i mount it07:06
chablebut i want to install the drivers from nvidia official website07:06
Corextknight: then run the installer07:06
asteroidwhat about linphone on 6.10 ? why video are not enable ?07:07
jasinmwe, yeah I agree07:07
Corextknight: without needing a CD07:07
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xtknightCore: i'm not familiar with that method but it may be possible07:07
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Corextknight: thank you very much for the help!07:08
jasin.20 is supposedly going to fix some data corruption problem07:08
xtknightCore: no problem, i hope it works out07:08
mwejasin: I compile my own kernels because I don't want a generic kernel with virtually all options enabled resulting in a huge image07:08
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jasinmwe, smart07:08
Corextknight: just one thing? the new release will be when?07:08
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Mareloxtknight: my xorg is 7.0, so i can ignore that page you sent me and go straight to the http://dri.freedesktop.org/snapshots/?07:09
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xtknightCore: i am not sure, i think ubuntu releases every 6 months, so maybe in 4 months from now?07:09
lord_ceiphasbaaack07:09
mwejasin: I must admit I don't see much difference but I don't like the feeling of using a bloated kernel ;)07:09
marcu3!resolution07:09
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:09
xtknightCore: look at the roadmap: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule07:09
jasinmwe, hehe07:09
UpMarcHappy New Year All!!!07:09
lord_ceiphasxtknight: i installed your kernel-package, but now i have the problem, that i have to install the nvidi-moduke on every boot07:09
mweUpMarc: you too07:09
Corextknight: 6.06 is from June, so the next would be December...07:09
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lord_ceiphascore, edgy is now stable07:10
xtknightlord_ceiphas: that's odd... i dont have the issue but i also use nvidia07:10
HymnToLifeCore, the latest one was release in October, the next one will be April07:10
UpMarcCan someone help me with sound problems?07:10
lord_ceiphasso the latest is 6.1007:10
mweCore: there is 6.1007:10
xtknightMarelo: uhh i think so07:10
mweCore: 6.06 was delayed07:10
mweCore: it was supposed to be 6.0407:10
lord_ceiphasxtknight: i had to re-compile the kernel with your config only to compile my own modules07:11
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n2diy! release07:11
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases07:11
Corei don't undestand: 6.06 and 6.1007:11
Core6.10 should never exists07:11
mweCore: why not07:11
Core7.0407:11
UpMarcCore: why?07:11
mweCore: 2006 month 1007:11
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n2diyCore:  6.10 isn't considered to be stable.07:11
mweCore: but as ubotu said there are two reales each year07:11
lord_ceiphas6.06 is long-term, so support stands for 5 years... 6.10 is short-term, the support will run out faster07:12
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Corenwe: coz the next release is in 6 months, so the next is 6.1207:12
HymnToLifen2diy, yes it is07:12
mnoirn2diy: of course it is07:12
auTONYmouscore: nope...7.0407:12
Coren2diy: really?07:12
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smurfwhat is the default content of /etc/issue and issue.net on edgy?07:12
UpMarcCore: I'm having sound problems with it (6.10)... need help07:12
HymnToLifeCore, no, the next is 7.0407:12
mweCore: 6.10 means 2006 releasy in month 1007:12
drivera90My connection doesn't work right :/07:12
Mareloxtknight: i'm downloading http://dri.freedesktop.org/snapshots/i915-20060403-linux.i386.tar.bz207:12
smurfi've installed a package that changed it07:12
xtknightlord_ceiphas: sorry, but if a sensory overload here.....i forgot which problem u were having that required a kernel compile?07:12
Coren2diy: a thing i know is tha it "is not LTS"07:12
smurfi want to recover the default message07:12
n2diyHymnToLife: Not the impression I got from the website?07:12
mwenot every release is LTS, no07:13
xtknightMarelo: i only see xorg 6.9 support, i dont know about xorg 7.0 for intel i'm no familiar with intel cihps07:13
flodineeanyone running e17 that can give me a how to link for ubuntu edgy?07:13
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chableit is possible to install ubuntu-desktop on debian ?07:13
lord_ceiphasxtknight: i needed to recompile to make my own modules (ralink-wlan / nvidia)07:13
drivera90I'm online, some websites work, some don't. MLDonkey refuses to connect whatsoever, I can't access one of my IRC servers, and an install through terminal failed halfway through or so.07:13
mnoirn2diy: 'stable' is like the legal definition of insanity - according to some, no os is ever 'stable'07:13
CoreUpMarc: wait a moment07:13
drivera90Thoughts?07:13
CoreUpMarc: i'll try07:13
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HymnToLifechable, certainly, just don't expect it to be working :)07:13
jasin2.6.19.1 gives ya 1. fixes to gcc4 mis-compiling certain things 2.     [ALSA]  Fix hang-up at disconnection of usb-audio 3.  fixes to a bunch if dell computer specific stuff, one of which is hda not mounting/unmounting properly 4.    Enables stereo line input for TAS codec 5. AHCI mode SATA patch for Intel ICH9 and so on and so on07:13
Mareloxtknight: well, it's expected to have retro-compatibility, no?07:13
chableheh :)07:13
n2diymnoir:  :)07:13
chablethen i wont07:13
mwechable: don't you think dapper .debs will work for that?07:13
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chablemwe, i dont know what to say07:14
xtknightMarelo: u mean an xorg 6.9 driver will work on 7.0?  sorry, not sure about that07:14
lord_ceiphascore, LTS stands for Long Term Support07:14
UpMarcCore: My sounf stopped working :-(07:14
chableim kinda new in linux07:14
UpMarcsound07:14
chableim on experimental stage yet07:14
Coreso 6.10 is a kind of unstable, "not LTS", release?07:14
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devhi, im having problems burning software.  it keeps making coasters from a dvdrw that i know is good, because i tri-boot the machine.  in dmesg it looks like at boot its detecting my dvdrw twice, and a message about "drive appears confused"07:14
smurfcan anyone please run cat /etc/issue and paste it here?07:14
UpMarcCore: I'd like to know if I can reinstall only the sound part...07:14
devany clue why ubuntu would do this but not gentoo?07:14
xtknightlord_ceiphas: you had to recompile a kernel in order to compile modules?07:14
jasinthat gcc4 fix is a good fix for devs.07:14
smurfjust for me to see the default edgy message07:14
n2diyCore: That is my impression.07:14
mwechable: well I had it intalled in dapper. I think the same procedure would work for edgy even if the debs were meant for dapper07:14
mnoircore - no it is kind of 'stable' release but not LTS07:14
xtknightdev: jmicron controller by any chance?07:14
CoreUpMarc: i had trouble with this07:14
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domannahi. i`m looking for music in style like in the cartoons, when the happy worker is going smily to the work (you know what i mean)07:14
CoreUpMarc: there's a icon on the desktop07:14
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chablemwe,  i can install ubuntu-desktop on unbuntu07:15
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chablebut i was wondering if it works on a debian07:15
chable3,.1 sarge07:15
Coremnoir: hummm....07:15
mwechable: huh. please elaborate07:15
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lord_ceiphasxtknight: yes, very odd, but without it, it would not work, and even with that i have to manually set the sources-directory07:15
devxtknight, no i dont think so, ich8 chipset, gigabyte 965p07:15
CoreIt's so difficult to talk with everybody!!!!!!!!!!07:15
chablemwe, i want to install debian 3,.1 and use gnome 207:15
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UpMarcCore: yes (at this moment I'm with windows, but would like to go back to my Ubuntu)07:15
chableas desktop environment07:15
mwechable: debian?07:15
CoreUpMarc: there's a lot of options on the icon07:15
xtknightdev: i have the same board and im getting the same errors07:15
chabledont u know what debian is ?07:15
Nookieis there a chance to set in gnome what fonts kde apps will use?07:15
mwechable: don't install ubuntu then07:15
quasar8888How can I find a driver for my printer ?07:16
alecjwchable: it might, but ubuntu is built on debain sid (or is it etch?) so it might not work07:16
CoreUpMarc: there's a combination of the wich works07:16
devxtknight, hah nice.. well, it works fine in gentoo.. im not sure why07:16
UpMarcCore: yes... which should I choose?07:16
xtknightdev: newer kernel probably07:16
dan2How do you interrupt a thread?07:16
CoreUpMarc: there's a combination of them which works07:16
xtknightdev: well i still get 'drive is confused'07:16
smurfjust for me to see the default edgy message07:16
smurfjust for me to see the default edgy message07:16
devxtknight, 2.6.18 vs 2.6.17 in ubuntu..07:16
chabledebian doesnt have gnome 2 still ?07:16
smurfcan anyone please run cat /etc/issue and paste it here?07:16
UpMarcCore: what is the combination?07:16
xtknightdev: 2.6.18 fixes jmicron issues07:16
UpMarcthat works07:16
CoreUpMarc: that's the point: I don't remember!07:16
devahhh07:16
jasinquasar, check out www.linuxprinting.org07:16
lord_ceiphasthe famous intel965/jmicron/c2d-bug in 2.6.1707:16
xtknightdev: i have some kernels here if u want to try these: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32634307:16
chablecheckin google07:16
nolimitsoyaUpMarc, Ubuntu 6.10 \n \l07:16
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CoreUpMarc: did you "shaked" it very much?07:17
devxtknight, nice man, thanks07:17
xtknightdev: i have not tried burning cds in ubuntu though, im not sure if the dvd drives on my jmicron operate correctly during burning07:17
siv0xCan anyone tell me what i did wrong by adding wine repositories in synaptic with:  deb http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb main07:17
dan2heh dumb question07:17
UpMarcCore: Shaked? lol07:17
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jasinquasar, you can look under the printer list07:17
mwechable: you could try installing ubunt-desktop on debian. the worst thing that could happen is it wouldn't work07:17
chablelol i think it works07:17
devxtknight, i'll see whats up, i know this dvdrw is good in windows and gentoo.  so you're right its probably the kernel.07:17
jasinquasar, go there and do that07:17
chablemwe, i know :)07:17
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xtknightdev: k07:17
lord_ceiphasxtknight: can you repackage an unofficial cd of edgy with 2.6.19?07:17
chablebut i start tio get bored of too many installs07:17
chable:)07:17
CoreUpMarc: i think the options as they are by the way you have installed is the best07:17
mwechable: why don't you go ahead and try then ;)07:17
Nookiedoes anyone knows if there is a chance to set in gnome what fonts kde apps will use?????07:17
UpMarcnolimitsoya: what do you mean?07:17
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lord_ceiphasi dont know how that works07:18
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xtknightlord_ceiphas: i tried doing that, but i didnt have much success....very difficult... i dont know how Muto managed to repackage sarge with newer kernels07:18
CoreUpMarc: from this point you just have to enter in a windows with various07:18
devxtknight, this board given me alot of problem.  the 965p.  i feel like gigabyte released a beta product and is testing it on us :P07:18
devxtknight, running firmware 8 and stuff07:18
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UpMarcCore: I never touched those configurations... they are as installed07:18
xtknightdev: works fine in windows though07:18
CoreUpMarc: with various measuring controls07:18
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xtknightdev: same here, bios f807:18
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mweNookie: you'd set that in kcontrol even if you run the program in gnome07:18
devxtknight, yup@! :)07:18
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xtknightdev: do you have rev2.0 of DS3?07:18
CoreUpMarc: good07:18
devworks ok with 2.6.18 as well07:18
siv0xOr am i just being ignored?07:18
devxtknight, yes07:18
UpMarcCore: I saw no measuring controls...07:18
CoreUpMarc: so find that window07:18
Nookiemwe: okej07:19
xtknightdev: yeah, same, well we all have the same problems07:19
Jaggz-my latest vim is 6.4 in aptitude.. but vim is at 7.0 -- how do I know if it's just not available or if my package list is updated?07:19
Jaggz-does aptitude automatically update its list?07:19
UpMarcCore: I1ll go back to Ubuntu, then come back here07:19
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CoreUpMarc: bellow the controls there's a checkbox07:19
xtknightdev: so how did u get ubuntu installed, or didn't you?07:19
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UpMarcCore: please, wait a bit07:19
mweNookie: sudo apt-get install kcontrol if you don't have it07:19
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CoreUpMarc: try to mark or unmark them it's something like this07:19
Nookiemwe: yeah =)07:19
Nookiemwe: thanx dude07:19
devxtknight, had no problems useing hte ich8 sata controllers, i didnt use the gigabyte ones.  woulda been impossible07:19
mweyw07:19
CoreUpMarc: ok07:19
jasinwhy would you need a core 2 duo on linux? Linux is fats on just about anything.07:19
wielkidzihey07:19
jasinseems like a waste of $$07:19
n2diyJaggz-:  apt-get update07:20
devxtknight, didnt have any graphics problems07:20
Corejasin: what?07:20
jasinfats=fast*07:20
Corejasin: misunderstood07:20
dev(xfs 7950gt 512meg)07:20
jasinCore, yes?07:20
xtknightdev: yeah, same, but edgy wouldnt even use my ich8.  i had to use dapper.  but i had to use a usb-cdrom drive.  then usb is suppoesd to be problematic so oh wow...fortunately usb was not a problem for my config so i was able to get dapper installed then i distupgaded to edgy07:20
mwejasin: well I guess if you run a loaded server or something it would make sense07:20
Jaggz-n2diy, thanks...  : ) :)07:20
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xtknightjasin: uhhh i need it for vmware07:20
jasinmwe, if i was runing a server i would be be ussing core 2 duo cpus :p07:20
Corejasin: i need a c2d on linux coz i have a c2d07:20
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jasinmwe, if i was runing a server i would not be ussing core 2 duo cpus :p07:21
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mwejasin: what then?07:21
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xtknightjasin: i notice a big speed difference.  linux may run fast, but gnome is intensive07:21
JosefKare there any HTTP based LVM/Samba tools in the repo's?  I'm looking to turn a Ubuntu box into into a NAS, instead of having to use OpenFiler07:21
Corejasin: i want a linux, not windows07:21
xtknightjasin: i also use C2D for HD video07:21
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jasincore, yeah, me too07:21
CorePeople, so 6.10 is not LTS07:21
xtknightCore: correct07:21
Jaggz-hmm.. it doesn't really show a newer version either.. in fact, it shows 6.3 .. I must have gotten some deb packages for 6.407:21
jasinxknight, ok07:22
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CoreThe next release showld be in december, 6.12 LTS, don't?07:22
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JosefK7.04 next07:22
lord_ceiphasis it possible to install ubuntu/kubuntu from a small bootmedia and then via inet?07:22
mweCore: if you update every sixth month it's not so important anyway ;)07:22
Corejasin: what do you mean then?07:22
JosefKnot sure about the next LTS though Core07:22
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CoreThe next release showld be in december, 6.12 LTS, don't?07:22
mnoirJaggz-: strange  - I thought 6.06 was up to vim 6.407:22
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kitchelord_ceiphas: yes07:22
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kitche!mini07:22
ubotuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD07:22
xtknightwhen will Feisty Fawn final be released?07:22
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mweCore: no07:22
JosefKCore, 7.04 next07:22
n2diyJaggz-:  How soon updates appear in apt is up to the maintainers of the apt system.07:22
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Jaggz-I'm on an old ubuntu, mnoir.. but even on packages.debian I'm seeing 6.3 ..07:22
funkjahow would i check what version of gnome I am using?07:22
mweCore: there well be no 6.12. december 2006 is past so ...07:23
CorePeople, think.07:23
UpMarcCore: I'm in Ubuntu now... what should I do?07:23
CoreUbuntu is released by 6 months07:23
marcu3Is there an easy way to make 1440*900 available as a desktop resolution in the system->settings->screen resolution? In xorg.conf I have the three screen resolutions listed 6 times.07:23
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Jaggz-http://packages.debian.org/stable/editors/vim07:23
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kitcheJaggz: debian actually has 7.0 just that it's in 4.0 which hasn't been released yet07:23
mnoirJaggz-: oic - well don't mind me - I have 7 installed everywhere07:23
mweCore: that's cool07:23
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alecjw!dvd07:23
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages07:23
Jaggz-Package: vim (1:6.3-071+1sarge1)07:23
CheshireVikinganybody able to help me fix this error running glxgears with nvidia graphics installed "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".07:23
CheshireVikingError: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual07:23
CheshireViking"07:23
Corethe last LTS release is 6.06, 2006 june07:23
JosefK!vim07:23
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code07:23
mweCore:and?07:23
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JosefK!emacs07:24
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mnoirCore: I knew that already07:24
Coreso 6.06 + 6 months = 6.12LTS release!!!!!!07:24
Jaggz-Okay... well.. I was just trying to install a VIM plugin/script for svn/cvs integration -- and it requires vim 707:24
CoreUpMarc:07:24
mweCore: I told you. 6.06 was delayed07:24
UpMarcCore: yeap07:24
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mweCore: was supposed to be 6.0407:24
JosefKJaggz-, if you fancy converting, Emacs' support for SVN is damn good07:24
CoreUpMarc: the sound doesn't work right?07:24
mnoir!release } Core07:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about release } Core - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:24
UpMarcCore: right07:24
mnoir!release | Core07:24
ubotuCore: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases07:24
funkjaCheshireViking: do you have 3d acceleration enabled?07:24
Corenwe: delayed?07:24
Jaggz-Jose, I was tempted.. really I've been thinking of it.  I might have a hard time as I've been using vim for so many years...07:25
Corewhat do you mean?07:25
mnoirplease go read about releases07:25
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n2diy! etchy07:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about etchy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:25
Mareloxtknight: i downloaded, but in the step it woul compile the drm kernel there was a error07:25
mweCore: I mean it was not released on the initial date set07:25
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HymnToLife!edgy | n2diy07:25
ubotun2diy: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes07:25
JosefKJaggz-, you're probably right, it took me a while to get used to it too07:25
Marelogcc is installed... what ore do i need?07:25
CoreUpMarc: try to find that windows07:25
CoreUpMarc: try to find that window07:25
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Jaggz-Jose, my idea is that I'd like to be able to, while editing some source code, and realizing that I deleted a variable from a struct.. go look back at a previous version without much difficulty -- from what I read the vim-svn plugin allows the usage of vimdiff.. and if it's done well this might be just what I need07:25
CheshireVikingfunkja: I'm not sure, i don't think so, how can i check?07:26
Corenwe: then whats the correct date?07:26
mweCore: there were some bugs and it was not ready for release in april so it was deleayed07:26
xtknightMarelo: sudo apt-get install build-essential kernel-headers-`uname -r`....the rest should be listed in the intel docs somewhere07:26
n2diyHymnToLife: I was guessing at the name for the next LTS?07:26
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HymnToLifen2diy, it is unknown yet07:26
UpMarcCore: you mean clicking on the voulme icon, right?07:26
jasinreally dont take much to run a web server on linux, apache runs well on anything from a p1 to a p4.07:26
Jaggz-HymnToLife -- cool nick.07:26
HymnToLifeor at lead unreleased07:26
HymnToLifeleast*07:26
mnoirn2diy: just think of some cute animal that starts with likw a Q07:26
CoreUpMarc: no07:26
funkjaCheshireViking: if you don't know - you most likely dont. What type of video card do you have?07:26
HymnToLifethanks Jaggz- :)07:26
mwen2diy: you can't. the decide that at parties where they dring too much and get loaded07:26
mnoirlikw=like07:26
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mwedrink*07:27
CoreUpMarc: right click the icon07:27
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CoreUpMarc: it will appears a few options07:27
n2diyI just came from one of those!07:27
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UpMarcCore: then...07:27
CoreUpMarc: one of them brings you to a new window07:27
JosefKJaggz-, similar kind of thing in Emacs, and it's trivial to setup a defun/bind for an interactive function that would diff the current file against version-n, and output it to another buffer07:27
mwen2diy: really. did you come up with a good name?07:27
CoreUpMarc: with various volume controls07:27
CoreUpMarc: bellow them there's a checkbox07:27
wsjuniorhello.. the ubuntu bootsplash image is black and white.. is there any way to change it for the colored one?!07:27
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n2diymwe: I forget. ;)07:28
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CheshireVikingfunkja: Ubuntu is detecting it as NV15BR Geforce2 Ultra, Bladerunner07:28
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wsjuniorit is black and white for amd6407:28
CoreUpMarc: tell me the control labels and checkboxes07:28
mwen2diy: I started talking about it yesterday bet the other guests told me I was too drunk and should take it easy with the beer07:28
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UpMarcCore: cant see these checkboxes07:28
Corenwe: wow!07:28
Corenwe: now I undestand!07:28
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Jaggz-The more I think about it, Jose, et. al., the more I'm thinking I need a modern and intelligent IDE.  Something REALLY smart.07:28
mweCore: ;)07:28
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CoreUpMarc: bellow de controls....07:28
n2diymwe: Good advice, I wish someone had told me that.07:28
UpMarcCore: no checkboxes :-(07:28
Jaggz-Perhaps even a GUI -- I spend all my time in X or on a windows system anyway.07:28
mnoirJaggz-: for which languages?07:28
Jaggz-C07:29
mwen2diy: heh07:29
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CoreUpMarc: it's a question of enabing the output07:29
xtknightMarelo: the i810 driver should work with i915gm and dri...thats about all i know regarding your situation07:29
Jaggz-less often perl07:29
UpMarcCore, just buttons07:29
CoreUpMarc: :(07:29
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norrohey guys. where do I file a bug that I found in the ubuntu zope3 package?07:29
Jaggz-some html fragments and templates here and there07:29
CoreUpMarc: is that the righ window?07:29
nnachtHi, has somebody succeded in installing cisco vpn client in ubuntu 6.10?07:29
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JosefK!launchpad | norro07:29
ubotunorro: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/07:29
CoreUpMarc: try another window07:29
Mareloxtknight: it said impossible to find package kernel-headers-2.6.15-27-38607:29
UpMarcCore: dont know :-(07:29
jasinbugs in ubuntu linux get patched within months, sometimes weeks. Unlike windows where it takes years just to patch the os and the patches ussaly have patches and patches for them patches.07:29
CoreUpMarc: a lot of volume controls07:29
xtknightMarelo: linux-headers-`uname -r`   sorry07:29
CoreUpMarc: it seems it's one for each device07:29
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CoreUpMarc: me too07:30
CoreUpMarc: find it07:30
norroubotu thx07:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:30
CoreUpMarc: right click the icon on the task bar07:30
UpMarcjust buttons saying: with/without sound07:30
CoreUpMarc: try each option07:30
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funkjaCheshireViking: If you go to www.getautomatix.com and get automatix, there is an option in there to install nvidia's 3d acceleration drivers07:30
CoreUpMarc: yeah!07:30
CoreUpMarc: i guess it's it!07:30
Mareloubotu woman07:30
mwe!automatix07:30
Jaggz-My idea of a nice editor's features:  * Show more code at once:  at the top and bottom of the display, "taper off" code by shrinking the font size -- a sort of magnifying glass, but more natural (showing the flat plateau of the current code .. not some weird disorienting thing).07:30
Marelo:)07:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about woman - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:30
mnoir!automatix07:30
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe07:30
jasinlaunchad is great it has all the bugs listed and whats fixed and being fixed.07:30
n2diy!automatix07:30
xtknightMarelo: i'm going AFK for a bit, I'll have to help you later07:30
jasinlaunchpad is great it has all the bugs listed and whats fixed and being fixed.07:31
CoreUpMarc: i guess you know what to do now :)07:31
mwen2diy: copycat ;)07:31
CheshireVikingfunkja: rite, ok, thanks i've got Automatix2 installed, i'll have a look at that07:31
nnachtsomebody runs Cisco VPN in ubuntu 6.10?07:31
Mareloxtknight: ok... :/ thanks for everything!07:31
Jaggz-* If I move to some part of code, hitting a key to show me, to the side, the previous version and the differences -- another key would go another version back.07:31
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JosefKnnacht, never Cisco VPN, I used vpnc instead07:31
mnoirautomatix is so bad it needs saying twice07:31
jasina cisco vpn in ubuntu???? say what.07:31
Corenwe: i have here 5.1007:31
n2diymwe: I'm typing sloooww today.07:31
JosefKJaggz-, emacs can do that easily07:31
Jaggz-* Another earlier-version view would be like "undo", not going back into svn land, but just in the current edit session07:31
mwen2diy: heh07:31
UpMarcCore: I've tried them all... they dont change anything07:31
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Jaggz-but showing it kind of to the side07:31
Corenwe: the next shgould be 6.0407:31
nnachtJosefK, i tryed with vpnc, but it does not work, should I do something with the kernel?07:31
JosefKJaggz-, sure, just split the window horizontally07:32
Corenwe: but was 6.1007:32
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JosefKJaggz-, http://randolphcarter.myby.co.uk/linux/emacs.png - my rails model editing setup07:32
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Jaggz-Jose, right.. so I need to split it horizontally and load an earlier version07:32
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JosefKJaggz-, tiny 8 line emacs-lisp script to setup those windows07:32
Corenwe: that is: 6.04 was dropped07:32
gnomefreakCore: 6.0607:32
Corenwe: but why 6.10 is not LTS???07:32
gnomefreakCore: 2 month extended time for devel on dapper07:33
Coregnomefreak: true!!!! sorry!!!!!!07:33
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gnomefreakshould have been 6.04 was 6.0607:33
mnoircore: why is sky blue?07:33
nnachtjasin, I tried to complie a module, but it failed07:33
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Coregnomefreak: i have it here god....07:33
mwegnomefreak: I told him twice ;)07:33
jasinnnacht,  that sucks07:33
gnomefreak;)07:33
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nnachtjasin, yes, it seems that the kernel should be patched, i just don't know how07:34
Jaggz-okay.. so what.. install xemacs?07:34
Coremnoir: but why 6.10 is not LTS???07:34
Coremnoir: what's LTS exactly?07:34
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mnoirsame reason sky is blue07:34
gnomefreakCore: because 6.06 is07:34
mwemnoir: right, for the fourth time ;)07:34
JosefKto get the font anti-aliasing, I'm using a newer build of emacs-snapshot-gtk, two secs, I'll get a link07:34
flossgeekLTS = Long term support07:34
mwemnoir: sorry that was for Core07:34
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jasinpatching the kernel is relativly easy,  patch -p007:34
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Coremnoir: the sky is blue coz God is a boy!07:34
hassan2aBonsoir07:34
mnoirCore: go. read. web. page. about. releases.07:34
hassan2ahappy holidays07:34
hassan2aall07:34
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JosefKJaggz-, http://debs.peadrop.com/dists/edgy/backports/07:35
eniacI just installed ubuntu on my acer 1640 but the X server won't work I'm really disapointed by this07:35
mwehassan2a: thanks. I have to go to a lecture tomorrow though ;)07:35
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nolimitsoyais there any solution to the windows utf8problem?07:35
UpMarcCore: nothing works :-(07:35
jasinhttp://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/kernelpatch/07:35
hassan2amwe:  what ?07:35
timo901!botsnack07:35
ubotuYum!07:35
UpMarcCore: is there a way of reinstalling all sound system?07:35
CoreUpMarc: i resolved for that07:35
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CoreUpMarc: i resolved by that07:35
eniacis there a way I can install or configure X11 myself ?07:36
helpmeeeee-plzhey. really need help about installing ubuntu on an existing linux dist..07:36
eniacwithout going into xorg.conf07:36
helpmeeeee-plzcan anybody help me?07:36
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mwehassan2a: I have to go to the university tomorrow. my holday is over07:36
CoreUpMarc: sorry cz i have not 6.10 installed here so that I can help you07:36
gnomefreakeniac: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:36
mnoireniac: the answer is yes but i sense it is not the real question07:36
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CoreUpMarc: i don't think it's necessary07:36
CoreUpMarc: try the following:07:36
eniacmnoir: it's linux for humans !07:36
CoreUpMarc: enable all the options: "with sound"07:36
UpMarcCore: they are all enabled07:37
mweUpMarc: why not fix it instead of reainstalling though?07:37
jasinhelpmeeee-plz, insert the cd, start up the computer, when you get to the desktop .. click install07:37
gihel2quit07:37
jasinhelpmeeee-plz, its that simple, it really is.07:37
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UpMarcmwe: that's my preference (fixxing)07:37
CoreUpMarc: open the examples folder which contains a video and sounds to test07:37
mwegihel2: no I want to stay07:37
timo901helpmeeeee-plz: do it you normaly install ubuntu just dont format you drive07:37
Jaggz-hmm.. hold on.. cygwin's not popping up startx.. grumble.  :)07:37
CoreUpMarc: then try another option07:37
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eniacgnomefreak: xserver-xorg isn't installed07:38
UpMarcCore: wwhere is this folder?07:38
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eniacwhen I do sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg it doesn't exist07:38
gnomefreakeniac: than install X07:38
MuffYwoohoo, i'm finally running Ubuntu =)07:38
CoreUpMarc: i remember there's a combo where you select the output device or something like taht07:38
jasintim0, he will have to format / at least07:38
nolimitsoyaeniac, then you have a repo/apt problem07:38
gnomefreakeniac: what DE do you want?07:38
jasintim0, ubuntu install makes you07:38
CoreUpMarc: tell me something:07:38
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mwe!info xserver-xorg07:38
gnomefreakeniac: you want gnome, kde,xfce?07:38
ubotuxserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 584 kB07:38
timo901eniac: sudo nano07:38
CoreUpMarc: how do you know sound does no work???07:38
JosefKhttp://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/Version-Control.html - more info on VC in emacs07:39
eniacgnomefreak: I want a working ubuntu07:39
eniacgnomefreak: I want a working X1107:39
CoreUpMarc: are you trying to play a sound file?07:39
gnomefreakeniac: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop07:39
n2diyMuffY: congrats!07:39
MuffY:)07:39
Jaggz-not to be too irritating -- but why is the windows emacs subdir (http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/windows/) having files that are tar.gz'ed?07:39
gnomefreakeniac: that will install X and everything else you need07:39
MuffYanyone has a nice beginners guide?07:39
hacked`guys07:39
dv5237www.ubuntu.com?07:39
mweeniac: I gues your sources.list is broken if you can't install xorg07:39
UpMarcCore: no sound when Ubuntu starts, no sound playing music or whatching films (VLC, MPlayer, Beep, or any other)07:39
MuffYwith some common terminal commands, places you shoud put things, etc etc07:39
hacked`anyone here an expert in grep ?07:39
timo901jasin:he will have to creat a partition not format his whole drive07:39
gnomefreakMuffY: help.ubuntu.com07:39
eniacgnomefreak: gonne try that thanks07:39
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gnomefreakkacgrep just searches dont think you need to be expert07:40
gnomefreakhacked`: grep just searches07:40
hacked`ya but theres like 1 million options07:40
n2diyMuffY: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz07:40
CoreUpMarc: that Folder contains a video with Nelson Mandela07:40
hacked`cause like i have a directory called "test", and in that dir, there are subdirs, and in each of those subdirs i have a dir called "specific", is there any way that to use grep to find files like ".tlg" in the specific dirs?07:40
eniacgnomefreak: doesn't do the trick07:40
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gnomefreakeniac: what does it say07:40
CoreUpMarc: try the menu Places07:40
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Aar0n444Hi07:41
CoreUpMarc: i'm sorry07:41
MuffYhmm, nice one :p  I thought help.ubuntu was for real 'problems', but i'll look for a beginnes guide too07:41
MarcNhacked`: so what is your grep question?07:41
mnoirhacked`: look at the R option07:41
JosefKJaggz-, probably because they're free, and can easily be decompressed on windows :)07:41
Aar0n444Is it possible to install the linux-headers from the CD? Or do I need the DVD. (I can't apt get)07:41
hacked`see what im saying, i just want to search "/hi/*/specific/*.tlg*"07:41
gnomefreakAar0n444: cd might have them07:41
helpmeeeee-plzhey folks.. why am i getting Filesystems used by the system (/, /boot, /usr, /var) must be reformatted for use by this installer. Other filesystems (/home, /media/*, /usr/local, etc.) may be used without reformatting.07:41
mwehacked`: find test|grep '\.tlg'07:41
helpmeeeee-plzat the 5th step?07:41
eniacgnomefreak: it's in dutch07:41
MuffYn2diy: yours looks nice :O07:41
MuffYyay dutch!07:41
UpMarcI saw devices in "Preferences / Sounds"... but nothing works there...07:41
gnomefreakeniac: give me the round about of what it says07:42
eniacgnomefreak: say's someting like 0 packets this 0 packets that07:42
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Jaggz-jose, fair enough :)07:42
eniacgnomefreak: and 2 packets not upgraded07:42
MuffYi'll translate it to english =)07:42
mnoirhacked`: that is simple:  grep -R string *.tlg07:42
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gnomefreakeniac: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:42
gnomefreakeniac: does it tell you anything else?07:42
Jaggz-do you guys code in windows?07:42
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MarcNhacked`: look at find and use something like   find . -iname '*.tlg' -printf "grep -H test %p\n" | sh07:42
Coredoes someone know a little linux wich runs on a  c2d + sata + ddr2??????????????????????????????????????????????07:43
MoosebuntuWhat does it mean when a how-to instructs me to do this: Then insert the Quake 3 Arena-CD in your local CD- or DVD-ROM and mount it.  # mount /media/cdrom (for /media/cdrom use the directory, where your CD-Drive is usually mounted)07:43
Moosebuntuwhere do I put this?07:43
helpmeeeee-plzhey guys? i am trying to install ubuntu without formatting my partiton /dev/hda207:43
timo901helpmeeeee-plz: did it ask you the select the drive to install ubuntu and also did you tell it to create space automatically07:43
Jaggz-I'd like to write a small C program in windows sometime.  I've not done coding in MS stuff since DOS days, and a couple visual basic programs.07:43
helpmeeeee-plzbut at the 5.th step i get Filesystems used by the system (/, /boot, /usr, /var) must be reformatted for use by this installer. Other filesystems (/home, /media/*, /usr/local, etc.) may be used without reformatting.07:43
jasintim, if he has linux installed, which he said he does, he already has parititon.07:43
Coredoes someone know a little linux wich runs on a  c2d + sata + ddr2??????????????????????????????????????????????07:43
jasintim, if he has linux installed, which he said he does, he already has parititons.07:43
HymnToLifehelpmeeeee-plz, it's a very bad idea07:43
Seveas!repeat | Core07:43
ubotuCore: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience07:43
HymnToLifeto install onto a not clean FS07:43
UpMarcCore: before all this happenned, there was a conflict between playing films and a game site called Pogo which works with Java they never worked together... just either one or the other... now none works...07:44
n2diyMoosebuntu: Insert the CD, Ubuntu should auto mount it.07:44
helpmeeeee-plzbut i really need to cover my projects around 50GB07:44
gnomefreakeniac: can you paste the error to pastebin07:44
helpmeeeee-plzand i dont have to loose them07:44
Jaggz-oh, by the way.. do you all use xpdf?07:44
HymnToLifehelpmeeeee-plz, save them somewhere else befor instaling them07:44
Moosebuntun2diy> That's kinda what I thought.  I didn't understand why it told me to mount the CD-ROM drive otherwise.07:44
Jaggz-try kpdf, if you haven't.07:44
Moosebuntuthx07:44
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helpmeeeee-plzis there really no way?07:44
jasinhelpmeeeeeee you dont have to format /usr, /home, /media ,etc.. parititions, its actually a bad idea to format those partitions.07:44
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drivera90Bah07:45
helpmeeeee-plzwell i am not formatting anything07:45
jasinhelpmeeee, if you have a / partition you might have to format that, thats about it.07:45
mwewho has a partition for /media?07:45
helpmeeeee-plzbut installer asks me to select a partition07:45
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HymnToLifehelpmeeeee-plz, you need to format /07:45
mweisn't that supposed to be a mount point?07:45
drivera90My connection is completely temperamental and won't access certain things, yet accesses other things perfectly07:45
drivera90Thoughts?07:45
jasinmwe, never heard of that but he was talking about having one07:45
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mwejasin: sound weird though07:45
n2diymwe: I have a /media directory, but not a partition.07:45
CoreUpMarc: sorry07:46
mwen2diy: yeah07:46
timo901helpmeeeee-plz:yess select a empty partition07:46
jasinmwe, that's what I was thinking07:46
UpMarcCore: np07:46
CoreUpMarc: i dont have mubuntu here07:46
gnomefreakmwe: /media would normally be usb device or cd rom07:46
mwen2diy: /media is for mount points. removable media and such07:46
CoreUpMarc: is java intalled?07:46
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UpMarcCore: may be someone else can help me07:46
mwegnomefreak: that's my point ;)07:46
helpmeeeee-plzi have an  idea! if i will be back in 30 mins then it means that i really found a way07:46
helpmeeeee-plz!07:46
gnomefreak:)07:46
n2diymwe: yep07:46
CoreUpMarc: yes07:46
CoreUpMarc: ask it publicly07:46
UpMarcCore: someone who has ubuntu 6.10 installed07:46
HymnToLifehelpmeeeee-plz, just save your stuff somewhere else and format the partition afterwards07:47
mwen2diy: so we all agree. that's great ;)07:47
UpMarcCore: ty anyway07:47
CoreUpMarc: ask for all07:47
CoreUpMarc: someone will appear07:47
UpMarcCore: and Happy New Year!07:47
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n2diymwe: Happy New Year! :)07:47
helpmeeeee-plzdoes anybody know the root password?07:47
helpmeeeee-plzon the live cd?07:47
UpMarcCan someone help me with sound problems?07:47
mwen2diy: you too07:47
Seveas!root | helpmeeeee-plz07:47
CoreUpMarc: for you too...07:47
ubotuhelpmeeeee-plz: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:47
mnoir!root07:47
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:47
eniacgnomefreak: done that , startx gives me the same result07:47
timo901you dont need one do you07:47
Kiongku!samba07:47
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT07:47
gnomefreakeniac: and the error is?07:48
mweUpMarc: yeah turn down the speakers07:48
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timo901helpmeeeeeeee-plx: what dose sudo -i say ?07:48
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jasinThe /media/cdrom0 links back to /dev/hdc, that is .. if hdc is your cdrom.07:48
UpMarcmwe: ok,,, then...07:48
Seveasjasin, it does not07:48
Seveas/dev/cdrom links to /dev/hdc07:48
jasinit does on my system07:48
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Seveas/media/cdrom is only the mountpoint07:49
MoosebuntuDoes anyone else have this warm fuzzy feeling when they install Ubuntu, instead of upgrading to the draconian WIndows Vista, and shafting Microsoft out of any more control over thyself?07:49
jasinI got a /media/cdrom007:49
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hassan2acan you help me ?07:49
SeveasMoosebuntu, I don't. I haven't touched vista yet :)07:49
Dunca1Has anyone had any luck installing Oebe Sync (from www.mp3tunes.com) on Ubuntu Edgy?07:49
n2diyMoosebuntu: yep07:49
jasinand a /media/cdrom07:49
Seveasjasin, which is the mountpoint of /dev/cdrom07:49
timo901Moosebuntu:you are now in control ;)07:49
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Seveasetc..07:49
seamus_iehey all, I have a new laptop with a amd turion64 uP, I also have a very slow internet connection so what i'm wondering is if there is much difference between the standard ubuntu cd and the amd 64bit cd apart from the kernel, which I can download a lot easier than the whole cd07:49
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jasinseveas, not on my system its not. /dev/hdc is the mount point on my system.07:50
Jaggz-yay.. emacs is installed07:50
mweI'd rather buy a new laptop than vista. they cost about the same if you want the full featured vista version07:50
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m12how do you change window managers?  I just downloaded one, and then restarted X.org, but i'm still in gnome now.07:50
chableseamus_ie, i think u should choose the amd64 cd07:50
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Seveasjasin, ls -lad /dev/hdc and paste the output07:50
gnomefreakthat doesnt sound right :(07:50
seamus_iechable: Why?07:50
HymnToLifem12, you choose which DE you want to start at the login screen07:50
n2diym12: select options at the login screen?07:51
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Moosebuntuheh07:51
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m12ohh ok, i thought that was a gnome login screen.07:51
Dunca1chatus: eer installed a 64bit edition? half the hardware drivers aren't available, and 32bit programs have to run in a 32bit emulator, so they run slower07:51
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n2diym12: it is, but you have options. :)07:51
MoosebuntuSeveas> Neither have I.  Nor do I intend to touch it.  I just wish it had better support for gaming.07:51
chableseamus_ie, because its suites your cpu07:51
m12n2diy:  then how do i change back if i don't like the new one?  will it have a login screen that is similar?07:52
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Dunca1seamus: there's not enough 64bit optimized software for linux (or windows) to justify it - I've got a Athlon 6407:52
n2diym12: I don't know, but I would think so?07:52
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seamus_iechable: yes I know but I don't want to spend 24 hours downloading the cd when I have the 32 bit version if the only big difference is the kernel07:52
m12ok thanks07:52
HymnToLifem12, the login screen won't change unless you tel it to07:52
n2diym12: It is probably defaulting to gnome?07:52
timo901Moosebuntu:i know , i will have to have a install of vutsa for games :(07:53
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seamus_ieDunca1: you mean that its not worth my while getting the 64bit cd07:53
Jaggz-any users of xpdf just go running to try kpdf?07:53
chableseamus_ie, sorry then07:53
jasinThe mount point varies from system to system.07:53
chable:(07:53
Jaggz-what a pretty sparrow-like bird outside.. mustard colored feathers.07:53
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eniacok I was trying to install  ubuntu version 407:53
timo901i feel a pirated os comming on07:53
chablei think 64 bit runs faster07:53
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eniacfound a version 5 disk would that be any better07:53
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eniacthink version 4 was still using XFree8607:54
acmhow do i use an older kernel w/edgy?07:54
Dunca1seamus: yes, your 32bit emulated programs will run slower (except video encoder/decoders and database engines) and your hardware will be much harder to configure07:54
timo901chable:i hate to disgree with you man07:54
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HymnToLifeacm, just apt-get it from an older repo07:54
PriceChildacm: build it yourself?07:54
PriceChild or that07:54
chabletimo901, do u think 64 bit cpus dont run faster then normal cpus07:55
acmthere is no easy aptitude cmd to d/l and install..07:55
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jasinchable, in linux it does07:55
Dunca1chable: I presumed the 64bit version would be better for me when I first got my athlon 64 too, they explain it better in the ubuntu forums tho (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185303)07:55
chablein windows too07:55
boblicshello, i have a mounted ntfs partition07:55
HymnToLifectually, I'd rather download the DEBs from packages.ubuntu.com and install it manually07:55
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boblicsbut i only have read access to it07:55
boblicshow do i change that?07:55
HymnToLife!ntfs | boblics07:56
ubotuboblics: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse07:56
Jordan_Uacm: Change your sources.list to dapper or brezy and install the kernel then change it back.07:56
boblicsthanks07:56
acmk, thakns07:56
nolimitsoyaboblics, sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g - then mount with -t ntfs-3g07:56
fab5freddyi am trying to install 6.10 64 edition but the cd crashes..07:56
timo901chable:yess i have a 64 bit not only did i not see a difference ,benchmarks show no improvement but a Delcine07:56
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chablei see timo90107:56
chableim not on amd07:56
chablenever been07:56
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nolimitsoyatimo901, you need 64bit applications to benefit07:56
chablei just thought logical07:56
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devxtknight, that kernel makes my pata drives go away07:56
Marelodamn!! how difficult could be to run unreal tournament in linux!07:56
fab5freddyi am on an amd 64 x207:56
nolimitsoyaMarelo, not very :)07:57
Marelosometimes i think just to give up and go back do windows07:57
chablei run 3.4 dual core Intel pentium07:57
jasinnolimitsoya, and a 64 bit os07:57
Jordan_UMarelo: Noooooo :)07:57
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nolimitsoyajasin, yes, that to :)07:57
MoosebuntuMarelo> blasphemy!07:57
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fab5freddyis ubuntu the best linux distro for 64 bit?07:57
Marelohehehehehe07:57
Moosebuntu:)07:57
timo901nolimitsoya:i know but ubuntu 64 has a browser with 64 bit support and even that is is not impressive07:57
nolimitsoyaMarelo, just get the shell script, execute it and you are done07:57
boblics!fuse07:58
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse07:58
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jasinnolimitsoya, a lot of people dont realize that they need hardware and apps that support 64bit cpus and they just go out and buy a 64bit cpu, big mistake too.07:58
nolimitsoyatimo901, perhaps youve hit another bottleneck than you rprocessor :)07:58
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Marelonolimitsoya: ooooooooooooooo no! i've been trought a lot more than that07:58
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nolimitsoyaMarelo, what have you been doing wrong then? ;)07:58
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chablewindows xp 64 sox07:58
chablebig time07:58
domannaSaddam [*] 07:58
HymnToLifejasin, buying a non-64 bit CPU is getting difficult nowadays :p07:58
Music_Shufflelol07:58
Jordan_Uubotu ntfs-3g07:58
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)07:58
kingacehello, i installed kde and xfce over top of regular ubuntu, but how do i switch back to gdm?07:59
jasinI'm happy with my 3ghz celery cpu :p07:59
timo901nolimitsoya: i have a theory that 64 was for security07:59
timo901nolimitsoya: mostly DRM07:59
Music_Shufflekingace, at the login screen, select 'Session' and change it to whatever.07:59
HymnToLifekingace, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm07:59
jasinno need for 64 bit here.07:59
Marelonolimitsoya: i wish i knew. but there's the thing... i'm supposed to DON'T NEED to do anything besides installing the game. see what i mean?07:59
Music_ShuffleOr that :P07:59
kingaceuh.. which one07:59
nolimitsoyatimo901, thats not true :)07:59
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jasinhymntolife, not really07:59
Dunca1:S there's nothing wrong with 64bit CPU's - they run just as quick in 32bit as they should07:59
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jasinhymntolife, chekc pricewatch08:00
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Dunca1they just have the extra capability to do 64bit08:00
timo901nolimitsoya: we will have to agree to disagree08:00
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nolimitsoyaMarelo, you dont. just copy the shell script from the cd, set the x bit, execute it, follow the install through and launch the game08:00
Marelolinux is so complicated to certain things that we (novices) end up giving up... things that were supposed to be easy. like installing a game.08:00
nolimitsoyatimo901, read up please. drm has nothing to do with it08:00
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chablelinux is simple08:00
Marelonolimitsoya: i installed the game alright. but it's freezing! like what, 8 fps!08:00
HymnToLifeMarelo, it's not difficule, you're just not used to it08:00
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HymnToLifet*08:00
mweMarelo: most games dont't work in linux no matter if you're a pro or not08:00
nolimitsoyaMarelo, then you need graphics drivers08:00
Marelomwe: this one works. it's unreal tournament08:01
nolimitsoyamwe, but thats not the case here, so...08:01
chablehappy new year anyway08:01
mweMarelo: yeah08:01
seamus_ieso Dunca1 are you now running the 32 bit kernel?08:01
Marelonolimitsoya: i tried08:01
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jasin64bit is supposedly more effecient but like nolimitsoya said, all your apps must be 64bit for you to benefit.08:01
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nolimitsoyaMarelo, but...?08:01
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Jordan_UMarelo: Installing a linux game on windows is much harder than installing a windows game on linux, remember that that game was NOT meant to be installed on linux thus it may not be so easy08:01
Marelonolimitsoya: guess? but no changes!08:01
chableseamus_ie, just install the normal ubuntu08:01
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nolimitsoyaMarelo, then you probably didnt do it right08:02
Dunca1Marelo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82987 hopefully that'll help :)08:02
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nolimitsoyaMarelo, nvidia or ati?08:02
chableim burning the iso now08:02
Marelonolimitsoya: intel08:02
chablei like 10 mb/sec connection08:02
chable:)08:02
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arrenlexjasin: On a normal desktop system, you will not even notice a difference. 64-bit only matters if you have unusual demands, like 4GB RAM, or if you're running a sever.08:02
Music_ShuffleSo...neither.08:02
riowho do you install rpm files that you have already downloaded?08:02
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mweMarelo: I get accelerated 3d on intel. poor performance though08:02
chablerio, rpm -Uvh08:02
timo901nolimitsoya: I mean surely you cant say there is a vast improvement over 32 bit08:02
nolimitsoyaMarelo, then i wouldnt expect any more than you are getting...08:02
Jordan_U!alien | rio08:02
uboturio: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)08:02
jasinhell, 64 bit is really nothing, 64 bit microprocessor have been around for over 8 years now.08:02
mweMarelo: no chance I'd be able to play UT08:02
nolimitsoyatimo901, yes i can. as i said, read up08:03
Marelonolimitsoya: why?08:03
arrenlexMarelo: what's the output of "glxinfo | grep ender"?08:03
Marelomwe: why?08:03
nolimitsoyaMarelo, the cards are slow to begin with :)08:03
jasinhell, there's already 256bit microprocessors on the market, granted their not x86 tho.08:03
kitchejasin: well considering x86_64 is not 64bit really there isnt much of a difference08:03
Mareloarrenlex: just a minute08:03
rioJordan_U quiet dangerous... in what way?08:03
mweMarelo: because the linux driver gives me poor performance08:03
jasinkitche, true08:03
chableanyone of u are on #debian also ?08:03
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mweMarelo: I can play tuxracer though08:03
Marelonolimitsoya: but the game isn't heavy08:04
jasinarrenlex, not on winblows you wont08:04
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arrenlexjasin: ?08:04
jasinarrenlex, 64 xp is crap08:04
mnoir!anyone | chable08:04
Dunca1Everyone: Could someone sign up to mp3tunes.com and attempt to install the oebe sync program? - it won't work for me :(08:04
Dunca1I've already followed the instructions here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32515108:04
Dunca1but to no avail :(08:04
ubotuchable: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?08:04
chableok burning process completed08:04
Jordan_Urio: Dangerous in that it could ruin your entire install, probably won't but could, If it is a source RPM you should be fine but don't quote me on that :)08:04
chableim not talking with robots08:04
MareloDunca1: i already sae that, and others topics too08:04
arrenlexjasin: I wouldn't know. Regardless, 64-bit does not pose significant benefits for desktop users. It just makes the executables bigger.08:04
MareloDunca1: but thanks still08:04
timo901jasin: i need to get me one of those 256 bit cpu08:04
chableill be back08:04
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rioJordan_U interesting... thanks08:05
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timo901must be very fast08:05
chableim gone ( blondie is fat )08:05
cybrjoeanyone know of a media sharing app similar to the new winamp remote stuff?08:05
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mwearrenlex: wouldn't it be a benefit if the programs were optimized?08:05
Dunca1cybrjoe: what does the winamp thing do?08:05
nolimitsoyatimo901, its not that simple...08:05
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jasinarrenlex, the bit width  the cpu can chunk is larger, I know how it works.08:05
Jordan_Utimo901: Only if you are doing certain kinds of encryption08:05
acmerf, i can only find kernel-image-2.4.27-2 when i switch to dapper...08:05
Dunca1cybrjoe: does it let you access your mp3 collection remotely?08:05
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arrenlexmwe: Yes. However, the current programs are only COMPILED for the 64-bit set, and pose no benefits.08:05
hendrickvpwhat was the command for setting write permission for a folder to anyone?08:05
cybrjoeDuncal, yea, not NAT setup or anything08:05
curs0ranyone know a qick command to scan a block of ip addresses for an ftp server?08:05
Mareloarrenlex: directe rendering: no; OpenGL render string: Mesa X1108:05
nolimitsoyahendrickvp, chmod08:06
cybrjoeDunca1, no* ... you just point your browser08:06
Jordan_Utimo901: For desktop tasks it is unbelievably slow actually08:06
hendrickvptnx08:06
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arrenlexMarelo: "direct rendering: no" indicates to me you don't have 3D acceleration.08:06
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arrenlexMarelo: That's not exactly what it says, but you can't have 3D accel without direct rendering.08:06
Dunca1cybrjoe: that's what mp3tunes.com does i think; you upload your music collection and then it lets you play/download it from any PC08:06
Mareloarrenlex: but my card have it, doesn't it? its a Intel i91508:06
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CoreHey how you passed the year???08:07
Dunca1(without software on the other PCs, you just goto the website)08:07
timo901nolimitsoya:if we want improvement we going o have to get new better motherboards and software to make the best out of these 256 bit CPU08:07
Mareloi915GM/GMS08:07
nolimitsoyaMarelo, but its not configured to use it08:07
Jordan_Uarrenlex: Or possibly that you are using XGL ( which you shouldn't need to be with an intel card )08:07
CoreHere in Rio de Janeiro we had Black Eyed Peas!!!!!!!!08:07
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cybrjoeDunca1, yea, i'm still not convinced its a good idea to upload all my music to a remote server08:07
nolimitsoyatimo901, no, its not that simple either. please read up and understand what the bit width is a ll about. wikipedia is a good start08:07
arrenlexJordan_U: Unless I miss my guess, if you are running XGL your applications don't get accel anyway. Yes?08:07
arrenlexMarelo: and you have xserver-xorg-video-i810 installed?08:07
cybrjoeDunca1, i was looking for a more local solution08:07
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timo901nolimitsoya:i bet there will be 512 bit CPU too08:07
Jordan_Uarrenlex: Yes, that was my point :)08:08
Marelonolimitsoya: then how can i configure to use it?08:08
Mareloarrenlex: yes08:08
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k0anyone know of any good organizers too keep all my tasks and things08:08
LinTuxMy menus are scrolling slow. anybody got any ideas how I can solve this?08:08
arrenlexMarelo: And you're not running XGL or something like that? Just plain old X?08:08
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nolimitsoyaMarelo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <- select the right driver to begin with08:08
Mareloarrenlex: well, i think so. just kde08:08
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timo901i know what the bit mean , the bus has been expanded08:09
arrenlexMarelo: And what's the output of: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep i810 | wc -l08:09
Dunca1cybrjoe: dont know of anything then (i'm here 'cos I can't get mp3tunes to work with ubuntu properly, despite having linux support...)08:09
arrenlexMarelo: Should be a number.08:09
timo901Be right back08:09
cybrjoeDunca1, do you have your entire collection up there?08:09
grndslmcould somebody explain why fullscreen videos over GooTube work on my friends computer, but not the other 3 computers running Edgy that I own??08:09
l33tHELP08:09
jasinyou guys act like 64 bit microprocessors is something new, man, you really dont know much.08:09
l33tHELP08:09
arrenlex!ask | l33t08:10
ubotul33t: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:10
Dunca1cybrjoe: yep08:10
l33thow do I set up Limewire on Ubuntu?08:10
kitchegrndslm: maybe you don't have flash installed08:10
arrenlex!limewire08:10
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.08:10
Core!help | Kiongku08:10
ubotuKiongku: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:10
Mareloarrenlex: the result is 108:10
Dunca1l33t: frostwire08:10
l33t?08:10
arrenlexMarelo: Okay. Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:10
grndslmkitche:  i wouldn't be able to see the videos period if it wasn't installed...it's just fullscreen that's the problem08:10
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l33t????08:10
Dunca1l33t: you don't want limewire. use frostwire instead (its the same as limewire pro)08:10
Jordan_U!froswire | l33t08:10
HymnToLife!frostwire08:10
LinTuxMy menus are scrolling slow. anybody got any ideas how I can solve this?08:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about froswire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:10
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire08:10
Jordan_U!frostwire | l33t08:11
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, what are you confused on08:11
ubotul33t: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire08:11
NoPulpfrostwire !08:11
l33t?08:11
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Dunca1l33t: goto system | administration | synaptic, or Applications | Add / Remove Programs08:11
Dunca1you'll find it there (just search for it and install it)08:11
grndslmAll 3 of my computers won't display YouTube & Google Videos in fullscreen mode, but when i upgraded my buddy's computer to Edgy, his fullscreen button works!!  What gives??08:11
jasinThe transmetta TM8000 is 256bit08:11
l33tWTF08:11
l33tit aint in there08:11
MoosebuntuWhat is sh ?08:12
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, he means frostwire.08:12
Jordan_Ugrndslm: Was he using the backports repository by any chance?08:12
k0any good organizer apps out there?08:12
BHSPitMonkeyMoosebuntu, it runs scripts08:12
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arrenlexMoosebuntu: The shell.08:12
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kitcheMoosebuntu: a shell but ubuntu has sh has dash08:12
linuxeatswindowsI installed frostwire with autamatix08:12
grndslmJordan_U:  i'm pretty sure we both have the same sources.list, but not 100%08:12
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Moosebuntuah, thx08:12
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grndslmJordan_U:  and that means yes backports was uncommented08:12
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ubuntuhi08:13
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l33thelp08:13
Dunca1hi ubuntu08:13
k0if u running xgl u will not be able to run frostwire unless u create another session08:13
l33tHELP08:13
MoosebuntuSo, when I exec # sh /usr/local/games/quake3/linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run does this just execute the script in this package?08:13
l33tfrostwire is not in Package Manager or add/remove08:13
Moosebuntuor is there something else in this file?08:13
arrenlexMarelo: Also, it would be nice if you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf just in case08:13
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Jordan_Ugrndslm: Ok, that means that you should ( I believe ) both be using the flash 9 beta now.08:13
k0l33t:use automatrix08:13
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kitcheMoosebuntu: yes it will but you might get an error depending08:13
l33t?08:13
Jordan_U!automatix08:13
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe08:13
arrenlexMoosebuntu: Most likely there is a script embedded in a binary blob.08:14
l33tcan someone help?08:14
hassan2ano08:14
linuxeatswindowsMoosebuntu you can turn off beryl then turn it back on and it works for me08:14
Mareloarrenlex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/136/08:14
grndslmJordan_U:  yup, i definitely have the flash 9 beta...but fullscreen no worky for me08:14
Moosebuntuthanks!08:14
arrenlexgrndslm: In firefox?08:14
l33tHELP08:14
grndslmyup08:14
MoosebuntuLinuxeatswindows> beryl?08:14
Dunca1l33t: use Automatix2 instead then, just a sec I'll get you howto install it08:14
kingacei did dpkg-reconfigure gdm but the only options were gdm and kdm, and when i selected gdm, it was xdm instead08:14
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jasinI dont need no 64 bit overpriced bs, my celery 3 ghz runs beautifully with linux.08:14
Jordan_Ugrndslm: Does your friend?08:14
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kingaceso how do I uninstall xdm?08:14
nolimitsoya!automatix | Dunca1 l33t08:14
ubotuDunca1 l33t: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe08:14
grndslmJordan_U:  yup...there's no otherway fullscreen could work for him, right??08:14
linuxeatswindowsMoosebuntu yea the xgl window manager08:14
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grndslmarrenlex:  yes, in firefox08:14
l33tHELP08:14
nolimitsoyawill you guys stop recommending automatix already? this has been discussed a million times >_<08:15
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grndslmno kidding08:15
NoPulpl33t go here and install it http://www.getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation08:15
jasinyou can uninstall xdm with the command sudo apt-get remove xdm08:15
Jordan_Ugrndslm: I don't know, I have never tried full screen before myself08:15
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Dunca1l33t: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_Automatix2_on_Ubuntu.2C_Kubuntu.2C_and_Xubuntu08:15
kitchel33t: no one will help you if you just say HELP08:15
mino789456hi everyone, does anybody have a problem with radeon 9200 and fixed it?08:15
l33tautomatix is not recommended08:15
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, calm the poo down08:15
Mareloarrenlex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/138/  <-- xorg.conf08:15
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nolimitsoyal33t, not only is it not recommended, its discurraged08:15
Mareloarrenlex:  give some seconds, will restar irc08:15
l33tthen what do I do?08:15
tuxmaniacDunca1> !ubuntuguide08:15
NoPulpdo it anyway08:16
nolimitsoya!easyubuntu | l33t08:16
ubotul33t: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu08:16
tuxmaniac!ubuntuguide08:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:16
nolimitsoyaNoPulp, stop it, please. dont be daft08:16
l33tI already have EasyUbuntu08:16
Dunca1tuxmaniac: thanks!08:16
l33tit dont have nothing for p2p08:16
linuxeatswindowseasy ubuntu isn't for edgy08:16
tuxmaniac!ubuntuguide.org08:16
l33tyeah08:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide.org - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:16
k0l33t:http://download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/premiere/win/2.x/PremierePro2_0_Tryout.zip08:16
grndslmJordan_U:  yea, it's just the strangest thing that it only works on his computer and i use the same sources.list file & same aptitude install <all packages here> for all my computers...but no fullscreen on my computers08:16
l33tthe alpha build works on Edgy08:16
l33tit aint got nuttin for a p2p app on it08:16
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jasineasyubuntu is good too, i use that in conjunction with automatix.08:16
linuxeatswindowsoh didn't know that08:16
nolimitsoyal33t, enable universe, and apt-get frostwire08:16
mareloarrenlex: I'm back...08:16
k0oops08:16
mino789456hi everyone, does anybody have a problem with radeon 9200 and fixed it?08:16
jasinhttp://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html08:16
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BHSPitMonkeyk0, what are you doing08:16
fizzzihello08:16
k0http://www.getautomatix.com/08:16
jasin!easyubuntu08:17
k0wrong link08:17
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu08:17
l33t????????????????????????/08:17
l33t????????????????????????????????????08:17
BHSPitMonkeySTOP/08:17
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l33tcan someone help?08:17
BHSPitMonkeygoodness08:17
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jasinThat bot is pretty handy08:17
l33teveryone is telling me something different08:17
fizzzii have problem with my devices USB can i paste link to post with my problem ?08:17
NoPulpim daft ?  and the guy saying HELP isnt ?08:17
acmwhy would my edgy sources.list now point me to a 2.4 kernel?08:17
nolimitsoyal33t, it to, is not official or safe. you have been given instructions be myself already. follow them08:17
Dunca1l33t: stop spamming. ask your questions and then wait08:17
mareloarrenlex: I installed a DRI driver from freedesktop site, the last i915 one, but no success either08:17
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k0check out there page,08:17
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l33teveryone keeps telling me something different, lol08:17
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, all people have done for the past 5 minutes is address this for you, and all you've managed to do is "?" "HELP" "?????????????"08:17
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l33tbecause everyone says something different08:18
BHSPitMonkeyyou're really starting to look like a troll08:18
Dunca1l33t: that's cos there's more than one way to do things08:18
l33tcan you help me BHSP?08:18
nolimitsoyal33t, then listen and make you rmind up08:18
fizzzi?08:18
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l33tthis room is too damn crowded08:18
Jordan_Ul33t: What do you need help with specifically? listen to me and I will try to sift out the suggestions and give you one answer :)08:18
ReleaseXhappy new year08:18
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linuxeatswindowshi emo_08:18
fizzziplease help me08:18
tuxmaniacl33t> Its Ubuntu08:18
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l33tlol08:18
nolimitsoyaJordan_U, ha wants to install frostwire.08:18
nolimitsoya*he08:18
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fizzzihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1940896#post194089608:18
jasinThats the beauty of linux, more then one way to do one thing.08:18
fizzzii need help08:19
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BHSPitMonkeyl33t, step 1, install java (it's called j2re in synaptic), step 2, pick limewire or frostwire (they're identical, frost is just open source, no ads or nags), step 3, depends on your choice.08:19
MasterShrekwhats up fizzzi ?08:19
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Cyclonuswasn't that sex?08:19
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tuxmaniacfizzzi> Ask08:19
linuxeatswindows!question08:19
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:19
l33tI already got java08:19
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mino789456hi everyone, I have a problem with Radeon9200, after update the acceleration dont work08:19
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l33tI want frostwire08:19
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fizzzii write about my problem08:19
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, then get frostwire from apt-get or synaptic08:19
BHSPitMonkeyor whatever08:19
l33tlol08:19
fizzziin this places http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1940896#post194089608:19
MasterShrekhmm, im not sure about that08:19
l33tit's not in the package manager08:19
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, have you enabled universe08:19
l33tit doesn't have an option to enable universe08:20
Jordan_Ul33t: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire has full instructions08:20
l33tyou have to enable all of them08:20
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ShiFTKeyhey can I get some help?08:20
ShiFTKeyim having a problem with samba08:20
linuxeatswindowsl33t type in terminal sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list08:20
acmwhere do you specify what version of ubuntu you're using?08:20
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boxninja_Anyone here has to rebuild ALSA from source?08:20
k0l33t:u can get it here08:20
k0http://www.frostwire.com/08:20
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boxninja_I'm having trouble geting alsa moduoles to load08:20
l33topened08:20
Alzi2Hey. I have a Kubuntu Alternate Install CD here and i want to install Xubuntu with it.... how can I do that?08:20
apokryphosacm: do you mean specify or find out?08:21
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, open synaptic, go to Settings>Repositories, and then check all the boxes.08:21
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linuxeatswindowsl33t then uncomment universe08:21
apokryphosAlzi2: have you installed kubuntu?08:21
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acmapokryphos: specify for aptitude, apt-get, etc.08:21
HymnToLifeAlzi2, install your Kubuntu and then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop08:21
Alzi208:21
fizzziplease help me, i dont wont install MS Windows or sales my webcam08:21
fizzzi...08:21
rambo3boxninja_ rebuild no, build from source probobly08:21
Alzi2apokryphos: Not yet08:21
l33twhat?08:21
Jordan_Ul33t: BHSPitMonkey's way is the easiest :)08:21
l33tchat moves so fast in this room I cant see what you said08:21
Alzi2apokryphos: I'm on a not-working Debian now08:21
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boxninja_rambo3: I meant build, yes08:21
linuxeatswindowsl33t delete the # infront of universe08:21
apokryphosacm: why would you need to? It knows which  version you've got from your sources.list08:21
mareloarrenlex: you didn't forget about me, did you? O:)08:21
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l33tI cant read any directions08:22
l33ttoo much chat08:22
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rambo3boxninja_ : apt-build alsa08:22
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, we've all been highlighting you, our instructions should be in red.08:22
apokryphosAlzi2: you can easily install xubuntu from the net once you have any *buntu up-and-running08:22
l33tso what do I do in Synaptic?08:22
linuxeatswindowsl33t call the whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance08:22
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, open synaptic, go to Settings>Repositories, and then check all the boxes.08:22
marelol33t: go MSN... :D LOL08:22
boxninja_rambo3 will that get me 1.0.14rc1 though?08:22
linuxeatswindowsl33t scroll up man08:22
Alzi2apokryphos: But how to install only the base from the alternate install CD, so i can then install xubuntu-desktop?08:22
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HymnToLifeAlzi2, do a "server" install08:22
Alzi2alright08:22
Alzi2thanks08:22
boxninja_rambo3 the version I need to get this stupid m-audio card to work08:22
l33tdone08:23
l33tI did that08:23
mino789456I have a problem with Radeon9200 after update, acceleration dont work, can anybody help me?08:23
boxninja_rambo3 stupid OSS commercial driver expired 12/3108:23
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BHSPitMonkeyl33t, then close the settings window, click the Reload button, then look for frostwire08:23
rambo3boxninja_ there is alsa-oss package08:23
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apokryphosAlzi2: there should be an option like that if you choose the expert install option08:23
l33tit aint there08:23
arrenlexmarelo: I don't know; everything checks out. I think you should sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as someone has previously suggested and recreate your conf. Dunno if that will help, though. Sorry... good luck.08:23
arrenlex!who | l33t08:23
KiongkuHi, can i know where i can read how to make my ubuntu station as a gateway to internet for a MS pc?08:23
ubotul33t: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say, or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)08:23
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l33tFrostwire is still not in there08:24
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linuxeatswindowsl33t use tab for autocomplete of the nick08:24
BHSPitMonkeyI'm really not convinced, but that's fine.08:24
rambo3boxninja_ , and why would you need to build form source08:24
linuxeatswindowsl33t update08:24
mareloarrenlex: see?!?! i told you!! grrrrrr08:24
jasinyou can install java via apt-get, sudo apt-get install java-common08:24
l33t?08:24
linuxeatswindowsl33t then check for frostwire08:24
l33tupdate?08:24
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laforgeIs it OK to run FTP, web and IRC server on the same box or is that not advised?08:24
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Jordan_Ul33t: sudo apt-get update08:24
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, the RELOAD button at the top in synaptic08:25
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l33tI already did that08:25
l33tit's not there08:25
l33tdamn08:25
l33twhy dont you believe me08:25
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, if you still can't find it, then go to frostwire.com and get it there.08:25
jasinuse alsa not oss08:25
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ShiFTKeydoes anyone here have any experience with samba?08:25
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, we don't believe you because we can all see it there.08:25
l33tIT AINT THERE08:25
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johns^ShiFTKey: just ask your question08:25
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dimitrihow can i extract a tar.bz2 from the command line? thanks08:25
boxninja_rambo3 I need alsa 1.0.14rc1, which isn't even in the feisty repos yet08:25
laforgel33t, are you using the search feature right?08:25
Jowilaforge, no idea about irc server but FTP is not very secure. better use ssh instead.08:25
jasinyou can install java via apt-get, the command is: sudo apt-get install java-common08:25
Jordan_Ul33t: Did you do what BHSPitMonkey suggested and "open synaptic, go to Settings>Repositories, and then check all the boxes."08:26
Jordan_U?08:26
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kitchedimitri: tar -xvjf <>.tar.bz2 witht he new tar you don't need j or z08:26
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mino789456I have a problem with Radeon9200 after update, acceleration dont work, on AMD platform08:26
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l33tI did that08:26
l33tI checked all of them08:26
jasinYou can get frostwire for ubuntu here: http://www.frostwire.com/download.php?file=http://fuse.frostwire.com/frostwire/4.13.1/frostwire-4.13.1.4.i586.deb08:26
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laforgeJowi, what would be a good program to run a SSH server on?08:26
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Dunca1fizzzi: http://mxhaard.free.fr/index.html might help - it supports the model no. ending with 2308:26
ShiFTKeyi managed to get samba working, im able to connect using my other pc's, the problem is that when i leave it overnight, samba crashes and it wont let me restart the daemon08:26
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, see if they're still checked. Maybe you did something wrong and they didn't stick08:26
Dunca1fizzzi: (yours ends with 21)08:26
jasindownload that to the desktop, then click on it08:26
l33tthey are still checked08:26
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FrOstiEhello08:27
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, just download it from frostwire.com08:27
FrOstiEcan i ask a ?08:27
fizzzii have model 21 ? or 23 ?08:27
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l33tok.08:27
Jowilaforge, it is called openssh-server08:27
l33tdling08:27
jbroome!ask | FrOstiE08:27
ubotuFrOstiE: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:27
laforgeJowi, ok thanks08:27
jasinl33t, download it from the link I gave you08:27
FrOstiE:D08:27
jasinYou can get frostwire for ubuntu here: http://www.frostwire.com/download.php?file=http://fuse.frostwire.com/frostwire/4.13.1/frostwire-4.13.1.4.i586.deb08:27
l33tI am downloading it08:27
FrOstiEi got vlc on my kubuntu08:27
Dunca1fizzzi: according to your post your model number ends in 21. they tested the one ending in 23 and it worked. so yours might (they haven't been able to test it yet)08:27
jasinl3t, good08:28
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FrOstiEbut i can watch movie intro but when i click play movie it closes08:28
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FrOstiEany ideas pls08:28
fizzzi23 ?08:28
BHSPitMonkeyFrOstiE, you need libdvdcss08:28
l33tdone installing08:28
l33twat now?08:28
Jordan_Ul33t: once it is doubnloaded you just need to double click it and select "unstall package" in the window that pops up08:28
mino789456Im having problem with my Radeon9200, could anyone help me?08:28
Dunca1fizzzi: according to this, it will work: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=350608:29
BHSPitMonkeyFrOstiE, and to get that you'll need to add an unofficial repo08:29
FrOstiEBHSPitMonkey08:29
Dunca1fizzzi: (read the EDIT)08:29
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, uhh... run it and get pr0n?08:29
l33tsw33t08:29
FrOstiEty so much ill give it a go08:29
jasinFrOstie, you can get libdvcss here: http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/08:29
l33tinstalling08:29
k0people anyone know of any good08:29
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BHSPitMonkeyFrOstiE, or that.08:29
FrOstiEcan i get it with synaptic manager08:29
BHSPitMonkeyFrOstiE, use the link jasin gave you.08:29
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FrOstiEok :D08:30
l33tdone installing08:30
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KiongkuHi, can i know where i can read how to make my ubuntu station as a gateway to internet for a MS pc?08:30
Lynouremino789456: I know almost nothing about the non-free driver, so if your matter is with that, perhaps someone else can, but we have one of those cards here and it should work reasonably well with the open source driver as well.08:30
l33tW00T08:30
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Dunca1!ubuntuguide08:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:30
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johns^Kiongku: iptables can do that for you08:30
Dunca1Kiongku: take a look at the www.ubuntuguide.org, i think that'd be on there08:30
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Kiongkuthx08:31
l33tit works08:31
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l33tit doesn't require java?08:31
nextremeyo. How can I get write permission for a harddrive when I can't do it from teh gui?08:31
BHSPitMonkeyl33t, what?08:31
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l33tFrostwire doesn't need java?08:31
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BHSPitMonkeyl33t, of course it does, it's written in java.08:31
fab5freddyhow do you use the noapic to boot the kernel?08:31
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BHSPitMonkeyits executable is a jar file08:31
kitchel33t: it probably uses gcj08:31
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jasinI really like linux :)08:32
fizzziwhat i should do ?08:32
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jasinnestreme chmod +r /dev/hda108:33
Jaggz-gotta restart.. ttyl08:33
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jasinnestreme, thats for the drive hda1, replace that with your drive, whatever it is08:33
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FrOstiEhey soz to be a pain08:33
Jaggz-thanks hose08:33
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fab5freddycan anybody shed some light into the noapic for booting08:34
FrOstiEbut my synaptic says i got libdvdcss2 installed08:34
fizzzii must waiting ?08:34
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jasinlibdvdcss2 is different08:34
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elyonAnyone here know if Cedega is worth it?08:35
chablelol08:35
mino789456Lynoure: my problem is that it worked until update, non-free driver fglrx and I try 8.28.8driver from ATI website too, and of course I try open-source, but non of them worked with 3D acceleration :(08:35
chablemy nickname was changed08:35
chableok im back with a brandnew ubuntu08:35
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Jordan_Uelyon: I won't pay them on principle08:35
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chablehow do i install the nvidia official drivers08:35
MasterShrekchable download them from nvidia.com08:35
FrOstiEok ty jasin08:35
chablei did08:36
FrOstiE:DD08:36
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leexgxlhmm he gone08:36
Jordan_Uchable: Define "official"08:36
MasterShrekthen chmod a+x NVIDI...08:36
elyonJordon - see, that's what I'm concerned with.  They stole so much from Wine and now charge for it?08:36
MasterShrekthen ./NVIDIA...08:36
fab5freddynoapic, does it is done?08:36
jasinlibdvdcss2 should work tho08:36
Dunca1chable: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.2908:36
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amonbishsup?08:36
chableJordan_U,  not the one that apt-get provides08:36
elyonJordon_U - I'd be willing to pay a bit if it worked perfectly, but that's what I'm trying to figure out.08:36
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chablecheckin Dunca108:36
chablewell08:36
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chablei know this08:36
chablebut i want to download the drivers from the nvidia website08:36
chableand install them08:36
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chableit worked for ubuntu 6.10 server08:37
chablebut on desktop , x crashed08:37
chableafter i installed them , same way i did on the server version08:37
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EverflexEhhhh, when i try and post something in the pastebin, it sais this: 'Thou shalt not spam the pastebin!', what did i do wrong?!! i am only trying to paste an output from the console in context to a question i'm gonna ask here.08:37
amonbishI'll soon find out08:37
jasinlibdvdcss2 with decrypt, where as libdvdcss will just playback .. if i'm not mistaken.08:37
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Luncheverytime I go to Applications | Add/Remove it tells me my list is out of date and downloads files (even after an update). Does anyone know why my list appears to not get updated?08:38
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mino789456Lynoure: my problem is that it worked until update, non-free driver fglrx and I try 8.28.8driver from ATI website too, and of course I try open-source, but non of them worked with 3D acceleration :(08:38
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jasinchabe, what card?08:38
elyonCan anyone tell me if Cedega is worth the $5/mo for a gamer?08:38
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arrenlexmino789456: With what card?08:39
Jordan_Umino789456: Edgy or dapper?08:39
jasinmino, ati is flaky in ubuntu08:39
chableJordan_U, another thing , this way of installing nvidia , on ubuntuguide , change my kernel too08:39
Dunca1Anyone need a 4-way surge protector? 2.40!! http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/113253 (sorry bit off topic hehe)08:39
jarrod10s it advisable to use linux on a macbook?08:39
Cyclonuselyon -  WINE was BSD licensed when it was forked to create Cedega.08:39
chablei see 2 cpus on /proc/cpuinfo08:39
mino789456Radeon 9200 SE08:39
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chableand after i install nvidia-kernel-common , i see only one08:39
magic_ninja!netconfig08:39
sc4ttrbrainafter resizing partition ,i cant make it mounted,how to add it to /etc/fstab ?08:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about netconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:39
arrenlexmino789456: The FOSS "radeon" driver will give you accel on that.08:39
Cyclonuselyon - don't accuse anyone of stealing unless you can prove it08:39
magic_ninjaanyone know a good webpage that tells you how to manually configure your inet connection08:40
jasinmino, I have that card in my other system.08:40
elyonCyclonus - I was told by others that it was stolen.  Forgive me for trusting what I heard in here.08:40
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Jordan_UCyclonus: It is a known fact that Cedgiga stole from wine08:40
mino789456and I dont know what version of Ubuntu, but I installed Dapper, how could I know what version of Ubuntu I have?08:40
sc4ttrbrainafter resizing partition ,i cant make it mounted,how to add it to /etc/fstab ?08:40
elyon..and by stolen I simply meant used without giving credit.08:40
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CyclonusJordan_U - provide some pointers08:40
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arrenlex!version | mino78945608:40
mweminerale: if you installed dapper you have 6.0608:40
ubotumino789456: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.08:40
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Cyclonuselyon - stealing is a juristic defined term08:41
grndslmcan anybody else here with flash9beta installed get fullscreen videos with youtube??08:41
mino789456arrenlex: I never heard of that, FOSS, that another ati driver? could you give me a link?08:41
Jowimagic_ninja, how do you connect and what hardware do you have (router, modem etc)?08:41
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elyoncyclonus - okay, fine.  Let's argue about symantics.. that's not what I came here for.08:41
magic_ninjaJowi: cable modem connection through usb port08:41
chablelol08:41
mwemino789456: lsb_release -a08:41
arrenlexmino789456: You have it. It's part of xserver-xorg-video-ati08:41
magic_ninjaJowi: i just can't seemt o get it configured on my laptop, so ima need to know how to configure the stuff08:41
arrenlexmino789456: My own radeon card started getting 3D acceleration when I upgraded to edgy, but you have an older card.08:42
Lynouremino789456: You updated to edgy? I had heard of that happening and did not do it (that being one of the reasons). Sorry, maybe someone else knows what to do08:42
Jordan_UCyclonus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedega08:42
soonHi folks - how do I make my wireless (ath0) start in mode 2 rather than 0 at boot time? (my wireless starts in mode 0 as standard - doesnt work until I issue: sudo iwpriv ath0 mode 2)08:42
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mino789456mwe: OK, I got it, its dapper 6.06, the command version didnt work for me08:42
sc4ttrbrainafter resizing partition ,i cant make it mounted,how to add it to /etc/fstab ?08:42
jasinThe X.Org X server -- ATI display driver will do 3d on the radeon 9200, however, the fglrx driver provides better 3d support. You can get either one off of synaptics, just do a search for ati08:42
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chablewhats the difference between homonyms and polysemantics ?08:42
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jasinThe X.Org X server -- ATI display driver will do 3d on the radeon 9200, however, the fglrx driver provides better 3d support. You can get either one off of synaptics, just do a search for ati08:43
Jowimagic_ninja, does ubuntu detect it?08:43
arrenlexjasin: fglrx will not accelerate 9200.08:43
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arrenlexjasin: Too old.08:43
magic_ninjaJowi: yea just fine, i was just curious on how to manually configure your internet connection08:43
cybrjoeDunca1, check your pms08:43
=== leexgx that frostwire is cool it needs to give an error tho if Java is Not installed
soonpre-menstrual syndrome?08:43
elyonSo... should I assume no one here uses Cedega? :)P08:43
mwe!info xorg-driver-fglrx08:43
arrenlexjasin: fglrx only goes to 9500 and higher08:43
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ubotuxorg-driver-fglrx: Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 7.1.0-8.28.8+2.6.17.6-1 (edgy), package size 9181 kB, installed size 25892 kB08:43
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cybrjoenice soon08:43
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CyclonusJordan_U - have you actually read and understood that article?08:43
chablevery nice08:44
grndslmnobody here can see fullscreen youtube videos???08:44
matsnati?08:44
chablei have 2 Broken pacakges08:44
Jowimagic_ninja, depends on the modem I would say. see if it is listed in "network-admin"08:44
chablepackages even08:44
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chablei think my speed brings me broken archives08:44
mwechable: it shouldn't though08:44
chableis there a netlimiter for ubuntu08:44
magic_ninjahave you guys heard anything about this open source version of windows that is in development08:44
Jowimagic_ninja, if it is, click on it and click on the "properties" button08:44
chablemwe, i got this error a lotta times08:44
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chablewith openoffice.org update08:44
arrenlexmino789456: You can try using the radeon driver to see if you get acceleration. Install xserver-xorg-video-ati if you don't already have it, and change your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use the "radeon" driver. If you haven't modified it, you can use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select radeon instead.08:45
magic_ninjaits supposed to be an OS that is completely compatible with windows08:45
mwechable: what error, sorry?08:45
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mino789456Lynoure: no its Dapper, 6.06.1 LTS, so how can I install the FOSS driver, remove fglrx and install xserver-xorg-video-ati, as arrenlex advice me?08:45
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jasinarrenlex, really? then why was I able to use it with my 9100 igp08:45
chable"you have 2 Broken files on your system"08:45
chableplease use Broken filter to locate them08:45
mwemagic_ninja: no such working thing exists by now though08:45
arrenlexjasin: You get 3D acceleration with that card?08:45
FrOstiEjasin tht link u gave has libdvdcss2 on it 208:45
mwemagic_ninja: supposed to maybe ...08:45
magic_ninjamwe: why do you say that?08:45
Jowigotto test something. brb08:45
jasinarrenlex, yep08:45
mino789456arrenlex: I will try it, thanks, perhaps it will work08:45
Lynouremino789456: arrenlex usually gives good advice, so go for it.08:45
magic_ninjamwe: i was reading it, they had it up and running a few basic apps on older hardware08:45
jasinfrOstie, yes it does08:45
magic_ninjait was over a year ago though08:46
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Jordan_UCyclonus: I understand that it is not technically "stealing" because they are obeying the licesnce that wine was under, but it was still in my opinion wrong08:46
emunhappy new year everybody, need some help, found an old lexmark z11 printer , and trying to install it, after no luck with two canon printers, I have downloaded the drivers : lz11-v2-1.2.tar.gz and it is on my desktop where do go from here , please i am a newbie, can somebody give me easy instructions08:46
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chableit happens everytime i update the system after a fresh install08:46
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arrenlexWow. *is recommended* o_o08:46
FrOstiEand i got it installed08:46
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chableand btw , dapper has a problem08:46
FrOstiEbut still sme prob08:46
chablewith the monitor08:46
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CyclonusJordan_U - it is not stealing in *any* sense08:46
chableit wont resume after sleep08:46
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Jordan_UCyclonus: #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to discuss further though.08:46
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mwemagic_ninja: yeah a few basic apps. I don't remember the name. it's been there for several years. still doesn't work with 99.9 of all programs08:46
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tehArtistanyone here?08:47
mwetehArtist: no08:47
jannu1any idea ill trying to get direct rendering working with my radeon 9500 pro, 2 dislpays and xinerama, when i replace driver ati -> fglrx i cant get even X08:47
magic_ninjamwe: http://www.reactos.org/en/screenshots.html08:47
tehArtistHaving some Install problems with Ubuntu 6.1008:47
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magic_ninjamwe: i might actually try it on my laptop to see how it goes08:47
mwemagic_ninja: yes that's it. reactos08:47
jasin9500 and above, what a load of bs that is.08:47
chablebrb restart08:47
DarthNadercan anyone recommend a utility for increasing volume and normalizing a large batch of audio files?08:47
mwemagic_ninja: it's a good idea. but in 5 years or more most things still don't work08:47
CyclonusJordan_U - if developers are too lazy to read and understand the license they use, they shouldn't publish their stuff. as far as i can see wine does not complain. only GPL fanatics complain but it's not a GPL issue, it's not illegal and not immoral either. blame the wine developers, if you want to blame anyone08:48
magic_ninjamwe: give it time08:48
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emunnewbie needs help with lexmark printer ,please08:48
pchildsI just had a crazy experience. I was working on configuring samba server for my windows laptop to access files and all went well except for the write option. I ended up rebooting edgy eft and the boot failed. period. Blank screen of death. So I ended up using an alternate kernel that is supplied with ubuntu and all went well. I got booted up. I am still scratching my head as to what the problem was. Any suggestions?08:48
mwemagic_ninja: I will. gave it 5 years so far ;)08:49
mino789456arrenlex: hm, I tried to install package xserver-xorg-video-ati, but there isnt this package, I tried to search it via Firefox search engine for ubuntu packages with no luck too :(08:49
elyonCyclonus - it is unethical.  They took all the Wine code, modified it slightly, and began selling it without contributing anything back to Wine itself.  There's a problem there.08:49
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arrenlex!xserver-xorg-video-ati08:49
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ubotuxserver-xorg-video-ati: X.Org X server -- ATI display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 1:6.6.2-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 327 kB, installed size 836 kB08:49
Cyclonuselyon - nonsense, that's exactly what the BSD license permits08:49
arrenlexubotu says it exists.08:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about says it exists. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:49
linuxeatswindows!offtopic | elyon08:49
ubotuelyon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!08:49
tehArtistI'm atempting an install on a HP m7160n Media Center, The install starts going great, then it starts looking for disc drives. I then get 'No disk drive was detected. If you know the name of the driver needed by your disk drive, you can select it from the list' and it gives me a list, but I dont know which one to choose. The motherboard is a P5LP-LE made by ASUS. Any ideas?08:49
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arrenlexmino789456: oh! You said you were running dapper. *headsmack*08:49
Jordan_U!offtopic Cyclonus me elyon08:49
FrOstiEty jasin and08:49
chableok08:49
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arrenlexmino789456: You may already have it then. Give me a moment...08:49
FrOstiEty again08:49
FrOstiE:D08:49
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deb_noob!nvidia08:50
Jordan_U!offtopic | Cyclonus me elyon08:50
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:50
chabletehArtist, that may be a hardware malfunction08:50
ubotuCyclonus me elyon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!08:50
magic_ninjamwe: looks to me another microsoft in fostering trying to leech off the public08:50
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chableubuntu works perfect08:50
Correcaminsgg08:50
magic_ninjamwe: they used to say it was open source08:50
tehArtistmalfunction?08:50
tehArtisthahahahaha08:50
mino789456arrenlex: yes, but I think there isnt this package, I search it with synaptic too08:50
tehArtistperfect my ass08:50
chableor else08:50
mwemagic_ninja: yeah08:50
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arrenlexmino789456: Don't worry, it's because you're running dapper.08:50
jasinlinux has been around since 1991, things should worked out by now.08:50
arrenlexmino789456: Does the file /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so exist on your system?08:50
magic_ninjamwe: well right now its still open source, but they are making a corperation out of it08:50
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Cyclonuswell guys then don't claim cedega is stealing in the first place, because that's off-topic too even if it was true08:50
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chabletehArtist, your machine is L.A.M.E.08:51
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chablena08:51
magic_ninjajasin: it wasn't actually until the last 2 years when linux really got user-friendly08:51
flyinghippoHello.  I have just downloaded and installed the KDE-Core package.  How is is that I switch from GNOME to KDE?08:51
chableuninstall gnome08:51
mwemagic_ninja: that's often how things turn out. sadly08:51
arrenlexflyinghippo: Log out of your session. In GDM, choose a KDE session when you log in.08:51
arrenlexchable: Please don't give advice like that.08:51
s34nthe  6.10 installer ran in high-res, but after installing, ubunto runs in 640x480 with no other options08:51
pchildsIs there a way to get tomboy to automatically load with ubuntu?  Just curious. Am getting tired of starting it with terminal first.08:51
Cyclonusin fact it's quite unethical to spread such rumours08:51
Z_GodI've got a problem with firefox in dapper, the pasting of websites seems to be broken, is this a known problem?08:51
chableuhm08:51
chablesorry08:51
tehArtistWow, everyone brags about the Ubuntu community being so great...so far, the Ubuntu community has been nothing but a bunch of leetist morons, thanks fr feeding my opinion chable...08:51
chabletehArtist,08:52
mino789456arrenlex: NO08:52
arrenlextehArtist: You've never been to #debian. :)08:52
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chableif ill want any sh*t from u , ill squeeze your "brain"08:52
jasinmagic, mandrake was somewaht friendly, fedora has been friendly for years.08:52
chablenow buzz off08:52
jattuh?08:52
Jowiubotu, tell s34n about resolution08:52
tehArtistlol08:52
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Jordan_UCyclonus: Please, join #ubuntu-offtopic, this is a support channel, I am sorry for starting this here08:52
chablearrenlex, ive been there :)08:52
mfb__!coc | chable08:52
ubotuchable: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/08:52
emuncan a newbie get some help here or not?08:52
arrenlexmino789456: Ah. In dapper, it's called xserver-xorg-driver-ati08:52
arrenlexmino789456: Insatll that.08:52
jatt!ask08:53
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:53
chablemfb__, he was being rude on above08:53
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Dunca1!coc | Everyone08:53
ubotuEveryone: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/08:53
Dunca1oo08:53
Dunca1hehe08:53
arrenlexIt's so amusing that the acronym is "coc".08:53
linux_user400354i don't have a router. i have two nics on my desktop. how can i share the internet to the laptop with the second nic?08:53
chablehaha08:53
chableyeah08:53
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meleeglownewb ahas a question08:53
chablearrenlex, ive been to debian , and i got them angry08:54
apokryphos!question08:54
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:54
mino789456arrenlex: ok, I find it with synaptic, I ll be back in a moment :)08:54
chablecoz i told blondie is fat08:54
chableshe is 8008:54
chable:))08:54
Jowilinux_user400354, there's a firewall that is called "firestarter" that make the setup for shared connection rather easy.08:54
Jowi!firestarter08:54
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).08:54
apokryphos!offtopic | chable08:54
ubotuchable: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!08:54
emunneed some help on how to install a ,,,tar.gz driver for lexmark z1108:54
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chablei feel like at church08:54
mino789456arrenlex: just a small question: Isnt it bad that I havent this file you wrote?08:54
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arrenlexmino789456: No. That package will install it.08:55
curs0ranyone know where to get wine help?08:55
dimitrihow can i mount a new partition from boot up? it is on /dev/sda6 & the type is ext3. thanks08:55
arrenlexcurs0r: #winehq08:55
chablelol08:55
curs0rarrenlex, tx08:55
chable"alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device"08:55
magic_ninjamwe: however i do predict that that company will have some legal battles with microsoft, it'll be sco all over again08:55
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chableso i dont have a spundcard08:55
meleeglowI am working on a new system and I want to put ubuntu and xp64 on two different drives (mainly for visual affect of HDD window)08:55
chablesoundcard* even08:55
meleeglowis it possible08:56
chablemeleeglow, yes08:56
chablei have 3 drives08:56
Jowimeleeglow, yes08:56
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chablethey are SATA ?08:56
meleeglowhow do I set two masters08:56
emuni think i need to get out of here and go to suse or something , can not get any help08:56
meleeglowor how would it work08:57
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Dunca1emun: goto the forums08:57
chablemeleeglow, im choose which HDD to be the first , from BIOS08:57
Mareloarrenlex: are you there?08:57
arrenlexMarelo: Yessir. But I told you, I'm out of ideas for you. = /08:57
emunwhere is the forums08:57
Dunca1(no-one gets help with particularly detailed problems here - the forums too busy)08:57
ChesManCan someone help me get Kiba-Dock setup properly? i kep getting it as a black dock, and all the icons have black over it08:57
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Jowimeleeglow, put xp on first master hdd, ubuntu on the second. use a bootmanager such as grub to chose which one to boot08:57
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jasinlinux_user, wirelessly? you will need to run the second nic to a switch and then connect an access point to that switch.08:58
JowiChesMan, if you install it from a .deb try a different one. not all of them work for me either.08:58
Mareloarrenlex: I know, i know, i kinda solved the problem. hehehe let me explain: i think the problem was in the MESA package installed in my kubuntu, it was the swraster (software rendering) that's why the game was too slow08:58
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arrenlexMarelo: Yes, I told you, you didn't have 3D acceleration. I was confused as to why.08:59
Mareloarrenlex: so i uninstalled it and installed the mesa direct rendering, or something like that08:59
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JowiChesMan, kiba-dock_0.1cvs20061018-1_i386.deb is the only one that I have been able to get working in Dapper (never tried edgy)08:59
weaselst!ftp08:59
ChesManJowi: i tried Pricechilds that he has listed on the forums, everyon in the thread seems to be getting it to work, even after a reinstall it doesnt work .. :( lol08:59
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd08:59
ChesManim in Edgy08:59
emunduncal, where is the forums, actually my basic question is how to work with tar.gz package08:59
arrenlexMarelo: That has to be the vaguest description ever, but I'm glad you fixed it. xD08:59
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Mareloarrenlex: but now the game is ULTRA FAST, "unplayable", even the game clock is fast09:00
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arrenlexMarelo: LOL XD09:00
arrenlexMarelo: Is this a game you're running with wine?09:00
Mareloarrenlex: it's really really fast, like fast fowarding a tape hehehe09:00
Mareloarrenlex: no! the game is native09:00
jasinlinux_user, it would be cheaper just to scrap the second nic and use a router with wifi built in.09:00
arrenlexemun: .tar.gz is an archive. Like .zip. You extract it.09:00
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JowiChesMan, you need composite turned on. check if /etc/X11/xorg.conf contain a "Section "Extensions"" with Composite Enabled in it.09:01
arrenlexMarelo: What game is this?09:01
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Mareloarrenlex: unreal tournament09:01
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jasinlinux_user, if you insit on ussing two nics you can do it the way I originally suggested, get a switch and an access point.09:01
thugrenHello, So how do I enable the root user in ubuntu?09:02
arrenlexMarelo: A quick google search found a thread on the ubuntu forums where this problem was discussed http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214088&page=109:02
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arrenlexMarelo: Maybe that'll help... good luck!09:02
arrenlex!root | thugren09:02
ubotuthugren: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:02
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LoneVVolfHey all...can someone help me with graphics drivers?09:02
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arrenlex!ask | LoneVVolf09:02
ubotuLoneVVolf: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:02
jasinlinux_user,  if you look around you might be able to find an ethernet 10/100 wired switch with wifi built in, I dont know of any that exists though.09:03
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LoneVVolfI have an old PC with Intel 815, and the default installation doesn't really seem to be speedy on updating.  Is there any way to get accelerated drivers?09:03
jasinlinux_user, get an active powered switch if you do get one.09:03
arrenlexLoneVVolf: The xserver-xorg-video-i810 package should give you drivers.09:03
tabmanI have a p2 350 mhz, around 100 mb ram laptop.......which ubuntu would work on it ?09:03
arrenlextabman: xubuntu09:04
arrenlex!xubuntu | tabman09:04
ubotutabman: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"09:04
jasintab,am, on that system i'd use xubuntu09:04
tabmanthe latest version of xubuntu09:04
LoneVVolfyeah, I have that installed...doesn't seem to be very fast, though09:04
emunwhen you extract the printer driver tar.gz onto the desktop is that all , can you use the drivers , you have to do something else09:04
jasintabm, on that system i'd use xubuntu09:04
LoneVVolfbut I guess if that's the best there is...09:04
LoneVVolfIn fact, it's really slow09:05
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LoneVVolftx anyway  :)09:06
andreas_1I've just installed ubuntu 5 on an acer 1640 but the X11 server just turns out black09:06
jasintabm, on and dont install a bunch of libs, daemons, services,etc.. and make sure you setup a swap partition.09:06
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andreas_1it seems to start but just black09:06
andreas_1what can I do ?09:06
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gan|y|medhi09:06
gan|y|medi cannot access google at the moment so can anybody please tell me how to enable symbolic links in apache2 (kubuntu edgy)?09:06
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elyonOkay... controversial question:  is it possible to download and install Internet Explorer with Wine?09:07
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andreas_1elyon: short answer yes long answer search google09:07
arrenlexelyon: Not directly. Use the ies4linux script.09:07
andreas_1elyon: not sure about version 709:07
arrenlexelyon: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page09:07
elyonarrenlex, thanks.09:08
arrenlexelyon: It's super easy.09:08
arrenlexelyon: Not 7, though. 5, 5.5, and 6.09:08
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kandinskiso, is it a safe day for upgrading Etch?09:08
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jasinIs there anything better then this xchat ?09:09
kandinskiI am still used to treating Ubuntu like I were running Sid, I know09:09
kandinskijasin: try screen on a server plus irssi, and you will never go back. Command-line only, natch.09:09
pequatrehi. is anyone here using the "electricsheep" screensaver ? i've heard of a hack of xscreensaver which would allow one to vote for the sheeps ? anyone knows about that ?09:09
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kestazhow can i install anjuta 1.2.4 not 2 version with apt-get ?09:11
kestaz;)09:11
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jasinkandin, ever tried b*tch x ?09:11
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andgiaimciao09:12
VerdRousseauOn my newly installed ubuntus what kind of security should I install.09:12
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floppyearshi I need to get a gigabit nic, which one is the best supported by ubuntu ?09:12
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tyme-whatevers best supported by the kernel?09:13
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jasinVerd, virus scanner, parental controls .. if you have children, intrusion detection, encryption, firewall09:13
floppyearstyme-: yeah, at the end is the kernel09:13
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jasinVerd, clam TK is a good virus scanner09:14
jasinVerd, http://clamtk.sourceforge.net/09:14
VerdRousseauso with the firewall, just pick one out of synaptics that looks good (I have heard of people making their own with configurations but that is way beyond me)09:14
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jasinVerd, firestarter is a good firewall, http://www.fs-security.com/download.php09:15
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jasinVerd, firestarter is very easy to use and setup09:15
VerdRousseauAlright thanks guys09:15
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elyonooh, scary!  ActiveX in Linux!?!09:17
jasinVerd, make sur eyou setup some really godo root passwords and do not enable root acess for logon.09:17
elyonmuahaha09:17
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mike-ehey do you need to install anything to read a ntfs drive?09:17
NegativeSpaceHi, can one make ISOs with the Archive Manager utility? If so, how?09:17
tyme-Anyone have a suggestion for Upnp app to stream my music/videos to my xbox360/media player?09:17
jasinVerd, good passwords are looooooong and use lots of numbers and letters mixed up randomly.09:18
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mike-etyme- : mpd with icecast09:18
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elyonAhhh!!!!! Popups all over the place!  Curse those IE-only websites!!!09:19
jasinHow to Create an ISO File in Linux: http://www.wikihow.com/Create-an-ISO-File-in-Linux09:19
seamus_iewill the normal ubuntu apper live cd install correctly on a dual core system?09:19
NegativeSpacejasin: Thanks.09:19
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bryanhWhy cam I print a test page to my printer, but when I print a document, the printer Properties shows 'job-stopped'?09:20
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kane77you know what'd be great? some portable version of ubuntu... for usb disk or iPods..09:21
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kane77isn't there something like that already?09:21
jasinwelcome09:21
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DarthLappykane77: There's an iPodLinux, but it's no Ubuntu.09:21
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arrenlexelyon: Why are you using IE? xD09:22
Login7hi, can I use bluetooth dongle with Xubuntu09:22
Login7?09:22
arrenlex!bluetooth | Login709:22
ubotuLogin7: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup09:22
kane77DarthLappy, I know... I was not thinking about linux for I pod... but more of a portable version...09:22
jannu1any idea ill trying to get direct rendering working with my radeon 9500 pro, 2 dislpays and xinerama, when i replace driver ati -> fglrx i cant get even X ?09:23
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DarthLappykane77: Oh, I know what you mean now :) I just woke up, so excuse that.09:23
kane77DarthLappy, np :D09:23
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arrenlexjannu1: Can you be more specific than "can't even get X"?09:23
kane77DarthLappy, good morning then...09:23
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timo901back :)09:23
DarthLappykane77: It might be a bit slow to try and run something Ubuntu-sized...  There's always DSL for small Linux fun :D09:24
arrenlexjannu1: Please include an error message.09:24
arrenlexjannu1: You could also try free drivers, if you want, but the acceleration would be slower.09:24
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ZoffixHow can I record my desktop video? (like a screenshot but video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=JjII1Ld47zc ) I think I can vnc to my box but how can I save it as some file?09:24
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Josteinprivate09:24
jasinxubuntu runs fine on older systems09:24
Login7openoffice can work in xubuntu?09:25
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niko_mi'm downloading the christian distribution of xubuntu now09:25
niko_mthe edgy release09:25
arrenlexLogin7: Of course. Xubuntu is ubuntu with different packages installed by default.09:25
GumbyZoffix: I think there is a program called vnc2swf09:25
arrenlexniko_m: ...why?09:25
siv0xCould anyone help me get ALSAs OSS e09:25
niko_mif i like the live cd i'm going to install it on my hard drive but not the whole thing i'm running win xp  pro09:25
ZoffixGumby: thanks, I'll look into that.09:25
siv0xEmulator setup*09:25
niko_mhow much space should i leave for xubuntu?09:25
rpereiraZoffix and Gumby: that's it!09:25
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niko_mwill 10 gigs do?09:26
Login7arrenlex: so xubuntu can install all programs that ubuntu can install too?09:26
arrenlexLogin7: Of course.09:26
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niko_mi have a 320 external hard drive also that is fat 3209:26
DarthLappyLogin7: Think of Xubuntu *as* Ubuntu.09:26
arrenlexLogin7: If you start with ubuntu, then remove ubuntu-desktop, then install xubuntu-desktop, you get exactly the same result as if you'd installed xubuntu.09:26
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mhiku umm out of topic but which is the best cms to choose from?09:26
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gnomefreakniko_m: personally i would use 10gigs at the least09:26
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Login7arrenlex: Thanks.09:27
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jannu1arrenlex ill get some blue error screen, or only black screens09:27
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x-iphi, where can i change the bootsplash ?09:27
MooUKRight... I was following the desktop guide to get my nvidia graphics card working properly. (https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/graphics-cards.html). I was having problems, so I searched the wiki. A page there (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia) gave more detailed instructions, including one that for Edgy gave a different instruction to get the driver working than the desktop guide does. In other09:27
MooUKwords, the desktop guide has a mistake in...09:27
x-ipi dont have splashy in the repositorys09:27
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jannu1i think driver cant find my dislpays09:27
gnomefreak!usplash | x-ip09:27
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ubotux-ip: usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto09:27
daishadarcan anyone recommend for me whether i should run vino or tightvnc for a vnc server?09:28
x-ipgnomefreak, thanks so much!09:28
gnomefreakyw09:28
jasinxubuntu, dsl, slax, puppy linux, and Feather Linux  are all for older systems09:28
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niko_mso is 10 gigs enough for a basic install of xubutnu edgy?09:28
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gnomefreakniko_m: yes xubuntu is about 2-3gig09:28
niko_mok cool09:28
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DarthLappyjasin: I find Xubuntu very nice on my newer system :D09:28
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jeff__I'm trying to determin which kernel image to use for my AMD Dual core cpu, would it be an SMP type?09:28
gnomefreakniko_m: that leaves around 7ish gigs for other apps music whatever you want09:29
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jeff__its a laptop, Acer 510109:29
hepmeif i have a computer that has no harddrives installed, and just run ubuntu off  liveCD, is that considered a 'diskless workstation'?09:29
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niko_mso i just have to use partition commander to resize my windows partition to make space for xubuntu and then when i install linux it will make set xubuntu in the unused space right?09:29
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jasindarthlappy lol09:29
arrenlexjeff__: Edgy or dapper?09:29
jeff__edgy09:29
arrenlexjeff__: -generic.09:29
arrenlex!generic | jeff__09:29
ubotujeff__: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)09:29
lufisHow do I mount a drive in the ubuntu livecd?09:29
gnomefreakniko_m: you can use the xubuntu installer to do that09:29
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arrenlexjeff__: apt-get install linux-kernel-generic09:30
leexgxjeff__:  start system monitor and see if the kernel has seen the 2 cpus09:30
niko_mas long as i don't tell it to use the whole hard drive09:30
Login7ubuntu is updated automatically?09:30
J-_Is there a way to get 2 DE's running at the same time on the same computer so I can switch over to one whilst learning how to use the other?09:30
niko_mi rather not use linux to mess with ntfs paritions09:30
VerdRousseauwith the firestarter firewall will that slow up my comp09:30
niko_mi prefer to use partition commander09:30
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jasinI dont like that little box, I need toolbars, menubars, a desktop,etc.. :p09:30
gnomefreakniko_m: right there is a part wher eyou can choose how much space to use09:30
lufisVerdRousseau: It shouldn't09:30
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x-r00t-xhello can anyone tell me where do i get alarm clock for ubuntu09:30
niko_mthen just run the xubuntu install and tell it to used the unused space and make whaterver paritions it wants for linux09:30
jasinverd, no09:30
fit4lfe_how do I set up my screen for hdtv09:30
gnomefreakniko_m: thats fine09:31
lufisVerdRousseau: The Linux firewall runs without firestarter -- firestarter AFAIK is just a front-end for editing it09:31
niko_mwill xubuntu install grub?09:31
VerdRousseauand also when for the roots sign in how do I get it so they cant sign in09:31
gnomefreakniko_m: yes09:31
niko_mok09:31
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jeff__leexgx, I guess the default AMD 64 bit has both CPu running09:31
niko_mhas anyone ever use system commander before?09:31
VerdRousseaulufis- so ubuntu comes with a firewall preinstalled?09:31
jasin!xubuntu09:31
ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"09:31
lufisVerdRousseau: Yep09:31
niko_mi'm wondering if its any good09:31
umganI am recieving this error from wine. "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"  Could someone show me how to completely remove and reinstall it?09:31
VerdRousseauback to about the rootsw09:31
VerdRousseauhow do I set it so they cant sign in09:31
lufisVerdRousseau: It's in the kernel, if you want to get technical, so all recent distros have one running09:32
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jasiniptables is not a firewall09:32
J-_Is there a way to get 2 DE's running at the same time on the same computer so I can switch over to one whilst learning how to use the other?09:32
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MooUKniko_m: if you're using an older machine, it's great. It is slightly harder in some cases to find appropriate software, however.09:32
jasinsaying linux comes with a firewall preinstalled is subjective09:32
lufisjasin: Oh. I guess not then09:32
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VerdRousseauso firestarter is my best bet09:32
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lufisI'm running the Dapper livecd right now and I want to access some files on a local HD. The partitions on the hd show up in Nautilus but trying to open them doesn't work. I tried umount'ing them and that doesn't work either. Any ideas?09:33
sladenlufis: what does 'mount' show09:34
jeff__next question, wireless with  WPA-Pre Shared Key, TPIK wireless dont seem to be able to connect? any tips?09:34
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lufissladen: Mount doesn't show that they're mounted at all, which is strange09:34
sladenlufis: if you unmonunted them, did you re-mount them09:34
lufissladen: Umount won't work09:34
sladenlufis: what message does it give, what command did you type09:34
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sladenlufis: umount means 'unmount' which means they are no longer accessible09:35
lufissladen: Trying to open them in nautilus gives "error: device /dev/hda1 is not removable, error: could not execute pmount"09:35
lufissladen: Right. I was going to unmount them and mount them manually to see if that would work09:35
tyme-jeff__:  get a better network manager app09:35
leexgxjeff__:  if you installed from an 6.06 or 6.10 disk the generic kernel will of been used that is SMP enabled (if you Upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10 you need to get the new one as it seems to install i386 not generic one)09:35
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sladenlufis: sudo mount ... then09:35
lufissladen: Running mount gives: mount: /dev/hda already mounted or /home/ubuntu/Desktop/HD busy09:36
Twinxorany recommendation for a program to burn a .BIN and .CUE to CD?09:36
sladenlufis: mount | grep hda ?09:36
VerdRousseauim lookin at synaptic and they offer all this firewall stuff like fwbuilder are these not necessary for the basic user like me?09:36
gnomefreakleexgx: 6.06 still uses the 686 kernel09:36
lufissladen: Comes back with no text09:36
sladenTwinxor: right-click the .bin and click 'burn'.09:36
timo901sudo nautilus  /home/ubuntu/Desktop/HD busy09:36
lufisVerdRousseau: Firestarter is good, i've had no problems with it09:36
sladentimo901: nooooooooo.09:36
sladentimo901: don't run programs as root!09:37
timo901ohhh ok ok keep ypu skirt on09:37
mike-eanyone know why i can't view an ntfs drive i just mounted?09:37
sladenmike-e: have a look in  /media09:37
jeff__leexgx, the stock kernel for 6.1 has dula cpu running09:37
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nick_pHas anyone been able to install Ubuntu on a USB drive and boot off it? The installer freaks out on me when installing LILO... any way to get that to work? This is 6.06 server CD, maybe i should try something else?09:37
mike-esladen : i mounted them to a directory in the /home/accoutn09:37
leexgxmine did09:37
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jasin!wpa09:37
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:37
jeff__tyme-, network mapper, any names you could drop?09:37
VerdRousseaunmap09:37
timo901sladen:it was only to view files nothing more !09:38
leexgxjeff__:  you running ubuntu now09:38
VerdRousseau?09:38
jeff__yes09:38
sladenmike-e: then look in /home/accountn!  :)09:38
neuratix_i have got problems with gnome taking forever to log in when my wireless usb networkthing (netgear wg111v2)  is connected during login, and when i finaly see my desktop i get a message about not being able to connect to the gconf database or something. also the device for my wirelessusbthing is kinda gone when its connected during bootup. any ideas?09:38
mike-esladen it wont let me get into it09:38
jasinwpa howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto09:38
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jeff__leexgx, just finished installing 6.109:38
tyme-jeff__:  i've just used ifup to handle it for me, but some people like Network Manager09:38
timo901it usauly /media/windows09:38
mike-ebash: cd: store1: Permission denied09:38
leexgxjeff__:  click System ? amin > system o#monitor09:38
leexgxjeff__:  click System > admin > system monitor09:38
x-ipits a hard job to change the boot splash09:38
x-ip:,(09:38
leexgxffs09:39
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jasinwpa howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto09:39
leexgx:)09:39
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sladenmike-e: for security, normal users won't be able to see disk-partitions after they are mounted.  use    umask=0      or some such to allow everyone to view the partition when moujnted09:39
tyme-!TPIK09:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about TPIK - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:39
mike-esladen what would the syntax be?09:39
tyme-!wpa09:39
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:39
jasinwpa howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto09:39
Yodudehey does anybody know why evrytime i try to use GAIM for MSN chatting it closes automatically?09:39
jasinYodude, thats a bug09:40
VerdRousseauDoes linux not get the common spyware and adware viruses that windows generally accumulates on the web?09:40
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arrenlex!virus | VerdRousseau09:40
jbroomeVerdRousseau: nope09:40
Yodudelol i09:40
ubotuVerdRousseau: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2109:40
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Yodudeim using liveCD09:40
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lufissladen: Ahhh, it works now. I had to select a partition ;)09:40
Yodudehere goes MSN on linux09:40
jasinyou can try amsn09:41
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shanepardueWhy does Partimage tell me I have no large file support after it checks my disk. I'm running an ext3 filesystem.09:41
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jasinhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/products/gaim/+bugs09:42
Yodudelol i can't install software in ubuntu it'll be useless09:42
Yodudei'm on LiveCD09:42
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jasingaim bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/gaim/+bugs09:42
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Yodudeno software will stay09:42
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leexgxYodude:  live CD is Live DC09:42
leexgxCD09:42
Yodudelol09:43
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Yodudek i gtg anyway09:43
leexgxyou need to install the OS onto an hdd to make sorfware stay09:43
Yodudenote: i liked linux 100x more than windows keep up the good work09:43
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shanepardueWhy does Partimage tell me I have no large file support after it checks my disk. I'm running an ext3 filesystem.09:43
leexgxto bad there still is not more GUI config frount end yet09:44
jasinlinux is cool, you can do all kinds of stuff in linux you never will be able to in windows.09:44
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rverripsHi all - Happy NewYear ... Need some help with a Rescue system - I can't seem to select md0 (a linux software RAID-1) as the root - The rescue mode only shows me the various devices, i.e. /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb1 ...09:44
jasinif i wasn't a multimedia freak I wouldn't even boot to a desktop :p09:45
xtianls09:45
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leexgxi guess hes gone09:45
xtianhey guys, are oreilly books free to read online?09:45
jasinxtian, not that I know of09:45
jasin!books09:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about books - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:46
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daishadarxtian: nope09:46
luisDetroitNo, you can buy online acesss09:46
jasin!book09:46
xtianarent there like open source books on linux and things like thaT09:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about book - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:46
VerdRousseauIs there a better wifi manager(that will show available APs) ,kinda like KDE's kwifimanager, for gnome09:46
shanepardueWhy does Partimage tell me I have no large file support after it checks my disk? I'm running an ext3 filesystem.09:46
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kitche   shanepardue because ext3 doesn't support large files really09:46
daishadarif you want docs on linux goto www.tldp.org09:46
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saxinVerdRousseau: network-manager09:47
jasinhow about gtkwifi?09:47
jasingtkwifi.sourceforge.ne09:47
shanepardueoh really? do you happen to know a command that would show me any files larger than 4gb (i'm guessing that's the limit on no large file support)09:47
tyme-will icecast stream to xbox360/other media players?09:47
jasingtkwifi.sourceforge.net09:47
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tyme-!icecast09:47
jasin!gtkwifi09:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about icecast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gtkwifi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:47
gan|y|medhow is the username and password for phpmyadmin???09:48
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VerdRousseausaxin- thats from terminal isnt it09:48
jasingtkwifi is similar to kwifi09:48
VerdRousseauoo09:48
jasinbtw, you can run kwifi in gnome :p09:48
saxinVerdRousseau: no09:49
xtiandaishadar, thanks, ill try that09:49
hendrickvpI need to update my php5 install, so that includes GD library, does anyone know how to?09:49
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shaneparduekitche, do you know a command to display files larger than 4gb?09:49
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derrikgan|y|med: the same as your mysql username and password09:50
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x-ip!ub xlibs09:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ub xlibs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:50
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x-ip!xlibs09:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xlibs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:50
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x-ipi am having problems with xlibs, i need xlibs => 409:51
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x-ipapt-get install xlibs return that some packages refers to xlibs but xlibs will not be installed09:51
kingacewhat is the closest thing linux has to the vista sidebar?09:51
x-ipwhat can i do ?09:51
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floppyearshi, I need to cp a 15gb file over the network what's the fastst scp or smb ?09:52
x-ipscp09:52
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englafloppyears: don't use nautilus as abstraction layer anyhow09:52
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HymnToLifedefinitely scp09:53
HymnToLifeor sftp09:53
x-ipwhat can i do with this problem, xlibs09:53
x-ipwhere can i find it ?09:53
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x-ipi need them to run openraider09:53
floppyearsengla: no, I'm not using nautilus, the src file is on ubuntu and the dest is on a mac laptop09:53
crowley1027(i've already tried irc.gimp.org#evolution and no response)09:53
crowley1027I've been looking for a bit and i can't find how to work Gmail into evolution. I tried one tutorial and it didn't work. Can someone make my life easier and just quickly walk me through it here? I'm using 2.809:53
x-ipthe open proyecto from tomb raider09:53
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Justynkalol09:53
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englaok, scp should be fast with the mac too09:53
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tyme-will icecast stream to xbox360/other media players?09:54
weaselstI'm trying to set up a program that requires use of my modem (ncid).  The program is failing. How do I tell if ubuntu is recognizing my modem?09:54
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gan|y|medderrik: and how are these?09:55
x-ipjo, synaptic save my life09:55
gan|y|medderrik: sorry, cannot google right now for the defaults in ubuntu09:55
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jasingmail in evolution: http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/lofiversion/index.php/t10801.html09:55
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Twinxorsorry about that09:56
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Twinxorwas there any recommendation for a program to burn a .BIN and .CUE to CD?09:56
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ReleaseXtwinxor: k3b09:56
derrikgan|y|med: You first need to add a mysql user and then you can use the username and password that you create to log into the phpmyadmin that you installed.09:56
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Twinxorthanks, ReleaseX09:56
ReleaseXtwinxor: np09:57
jasinlinux is beautiful09:57
crowley1027Linux is hard.09:57
jasin!tux09:57
ubotutux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/09:57
jasinubuntu is not hard09:57
crowley1027so uncompatable with everything.09:57
gan|y|medderrik: i should hit my head. haven't read the error message properly. sorry. it seems that the socket in var is wrong again. why that? that is an age old problem09:57
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jasincrowley, like what?09:57
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crowley1027well, i have an SNES emulator.  Can't just run it normally.  have to get the DLLs, load up WINE, and then troubleshoot the video/sound errors09:58
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derrikgan|y|med: ahh. socket in var is wrong again? i don't understand. but as long as it's working now09:58
Twinxorcrowley1027, tried a native emulator like ZSNES?09:58
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crowley1027mhm09:58
jasincrowley, ummmmm thats not a fault of linux, windows stuff dont run natively in linux, its linux .. not windows.09:59
crowley1027actually09:59
crowley1027i know, thats why its so hard.09:59
crowley1027anyone here using evolution with gmail?09:59
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jasincrowley, anything you can do in windows you can do in linux09:59
rpereiracrowley1027: I'm using.09:59
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gan|y|medderrik: mysql.sock points to the wrong file i think. i'll fix that. but thx a lot10:00
jasincrowley, you need to learnhow linux works rather then trying to emulate what you do know10:00
crowley1027rpereira: can you walk me through the info needed to set it up?  its not working for me.10:00
jasingmail in evolution: http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/lofiversion/index.php/t10801.html10:00
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derrik gan|y|med : no problem10:00
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shanepardueIs it true that partimage can't support large files on an ext filesystem?10:02
shanepardueext310:02
ugaritare the linux-headers* packages the source code for the kernel?10:02
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frying_fishugarit: no, but close enough for most things that you will need10:02
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hepmedoes ubuntu use bootp to obtain my ip address from the livcd?10:03
jasinIf you want to run windows stuff dont run linux run windows10:03
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AlexHello all - howcome vim doesn't seem to come with support for 'syntax on'? :)10:03
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jasinlinux is linux10:03
tchado_hi, since a week, i have a problem with my edgy, gnome freeze then the system. I have to restart and kill gnome-panel, the session restart and it's ok. Someone have an idea ?10:03
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ugaritfrying_fish: even to comple kqemu?10:03
hepmealex just doesn't, never has. they except vim users to carry a custom vimrc file with them everywhere they go :)10:03
ugaritfrying_fish: even to compile kqemu?10:04
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Alexhepme: I'm using one, however.. E319: Sorry, the command is not available in this version:   syntax on10:04
hepmewhat version10:04
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frying_fishugarit: yes, it has the "header" files, which will be what the program wants to compile against10:04
shanepardueIs it true that partimage can't support large files on an ext3 filesystem?10:04
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tuxutugd10:04
frying_fishand link them in, so it should be fine.10:04
DarthLappyAlex: :syn on , maybe ?10:04
daishadaralex: is that from an out of the box ubuntu install?10:04
jasintchado, hmm, any error messages?10:04
Alexdaishadar: Yeah10:04
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Alexdaishadar: Same10:05
Alexer, DarthLappy Same10:05
daishadaralex: you should run sudo apt-get install vim10:05
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AlexI'm going to try installing vim-full - that may help, I guess.10:05
hepmei like gvim's color schemes10:05
rpereiracrowley1027: Just wait a minute.... I'm tel.10:05
daishadaralex: ubuntu version out of the box is not full unfortunatly10:05
Alexdaishadar: That's bizzare - why?10:05
rchfWhere can I post a Ubuntu configuration >solution< so that it gets out to others quickly?10:05
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daishadaralex: i have no idea why!  i installed my first ubuntu system a week ago and encoutered the same problem ;)10:06
hepmepastebin?10:06
shanepardueCan partimage support large files on an ext filesystem?10:06
meleeglowI have a bargain pc with widows already on it I put an old drive in it can I install ubuntu on that drive without sacrificing master HDD10:06
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kingacehello10:06
crowley1027rpereira: i got it :)10:06
kingacei'd like to create a launcher that brings up the menu10:06
Alexdaishadar: How bizzare - oh well, vim-full fixes it10:06
kingaceis there some sort of command10:06
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kingaceto make the menu come up10:06
jasinmeleeglow, yes but you will need to repartition the drive10:07
hepmealt+f110:07
kingacealso is there a command to show the desktop10:07
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hepmectrl+alt+d10:07
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kingacehepme: i mean a terminal command10:07
hepmewoops i thought iw as in kubuntu10:07
jasinking, startx will get you to the desktop10:07
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pianoboy3333What program will let me see what wireless networks are around me?10:07
m12how do you uninstall something you compiled from source10:07
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pianoboy3333m12: what did you install it with?10:07
pianoboy3333m12: make install?10:07
hepmemake uninstal?10:07
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m12yes10:07
meleeglowjasin: the ol;d one right10:07
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rpereiracrowley1027: I'm almost finish the package to sync Google Calendar and Evolution too.10:07
jasinking, that is, if you are stuck at the command line and are not at any desktop10:07
kingacejasin: i want to make a launcher10:08
shanepardueIs it true that partimage can't support large files on an ext3 filesystem?10:08
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kingaceas ina  shortcut10:08
lufisWhat should I remove from the grub entry to disable the Ubuntu splash? "ro quiet splash", right?10:08
pianoboy3333m12: go back to the source directory and try a make uninstall or a make remove, but not all programs have that feature....10:08
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jasinkingace, why? Grub will bot your desktop10:08
m12ok10:08
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jasinboot10:08
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jasin!usplash10:09
ubotuusplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto10:09
VerdRousseauwhat do you do when your gnome freezes?10:09
kingacejasin: thats not what i mean at all10:09
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jasinkingace, ok10:09
kingacejasin: i have a basic dock program that supports adding shortcuts to programs10:09
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kingacei'd like to make a menu in it10:09
kingaceand a show desktop button10:09
tchado_when my desktop freeze i use syst cap or reset10:09
jasinking, i dont know.10:09
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VerdRousseausyste cap?10:10
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kingacejasin: ight thanks anyway10:10
lufisjasin: Thanks but that article only details customizing the splash screen10:10
PhairIs possible to add Kickoff from Suse into Kubuntu dapper?10:10
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blue-frogin the menu layout gui there is a debian menu, how can I activate it and will it list programs not showing in the other menus?10:11
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tchado_Alt+Syst+s ; Alt+Syst+u ; Alt+Syst+b10:11
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Kingsqueakblue-frog: install menu and menu-xdg10:12
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GoodSoftHello. Is here anybody who installed Canon MP160 on Ubuntu?10:12
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ubuntuhola10:13
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elyonWhat is the partition manager in Ubuntu?  I need to grab more space from my Windows partition for LInux.10:14
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buckygfarted10:14
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blue-frogKingsqueak: ty but is it automatic afterwards? the readme is not very talkative10:14
x-ipwhy i cant get xlibs => 4 ?10:14
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jasinro, quiet and splash - these are optional but load the pretty splash screen that you see at boot time.10:14
Kingsqueakblue-frog: yes, anything packaged with a menu entry just shows up10:14
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jasinhttp://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/29/tweaking-grub-ubuntu-510-6061-610/10:15
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Kingsqueakblue-frog: will take a few mins after initial install to generate all the stuff, but then the Debian menu will be selectable and work10:15
PxMhi10:15
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Alzi2Hey. When trying to install Flash, i get this: automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes. Anyone?10:15
blue-frogKingsqueak: oh ok so it is automatic and there's nothing to launch to initiate it?10:15
tchado_Kingsqueak: but sometime i have a message after a restart, one gnome-panel is busy.10:15
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Kingsqueakblue-frog: you just need to enable the Debian menu to be viewable, that's it10:16
weaselstI'm having an issue installing my modem, which turns up an error message. The only result I get on google is a ubuntu pastebin that is an exact replica of my log: www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/6200/10:16
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doviendeAlzi2: which package and which ubuntu version?10:16
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PxMI have a problem with my voodoo 510:16
Alzi2doviende: Xubuntu, flashplugin-nonfree10:16
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Alzi2doviende: Edgy10:16
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bob_hallo10:17
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hassan2ahallo10:17
hassan2ahello10:17
GoodSoftI have problem with my Canon MP16010:18
hjmillshttp://pastebin.ca/29969410:18
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hjmillsi am having some problems with a script - the iwconfig command isnt working properly but it reports success and works when ran from the cli10:18
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PxMXorg and vesa mode don't workwith my PC(PII; Voodoo5)10:19
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weaselstCould someone please aid me with my modem issue? I am installing a Smartlink modem and in the process of compiling the driver, it returns an error message. Only result on google? Someone who pastebinned their own exact copy of my log: www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/6200/10:19
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Alzi2doviende: you there?10:19
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Moosejawhey all.10:20
Alzi2Hey. When trying to install Flash, i get this: automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes. Anyone?10:20
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Moosejawis there a way to make websites see linux as a windows based syste?10:20
Alzi2Moosejaw: Install the user agent switcher extension for Firefox10:20
Moosejawk.10:20
tk_i fiinaly got to install my ati driver. but when i rebooted and log inn i see my resolution being very high and nothing apart from the ubuntu background and my mouse pointer.10:20
tritiumAlzi2: you need the edgy-backports repo for the latest flash10:21
MoosejawAlzi: can u answer a question about foxyproxy?10:21
Alzi2Moosejaw: no10:21
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Alzi2tritium: how?10:21
Moosejawhoping there is a way to have foxyproxy use canadian proxys only...10:21
Moosejawis there a way to do this?10:21
doviendeAlzi2: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list10:21
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tritium!backports > Alzi210:21
Alzi2thanks!10:22
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Alzi2i didn't know about backports10:22
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doviendeAlzi2: i just installed flash last night and it worked fine.  i just enabled all the extra sources in /etc/apt/sources.list10:22
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Alzi2so then everything gets updated?10:22
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eilker!modprobe10:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:23
doviendeAlzi2: i didn't have to update that much10:23
tritiumAlzi2: not until you refresh your package list and retry the install10:23
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tk_i fiinaly got to install my ati driver. but when i rebooted and log inn i see my resolution being very high and nothing apart from the ubuntu background and my mouse pointer.  any suggestions?10:23
m12how do you add a new panel in gnome?10:23
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pimpiciao10:23
m12never mind, found it.  sorry10:24
Alzi2tritium: thanks :)10:24
pimpiparlate italiano?10:24
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Alzi2worked!10:24
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AidanLHi, I wondered if someone could assist me on a small problem I am encountering after an install of Ubuntu 6.110:24
MuffYi'm trying to install vlc player on Edgy, but i need to add "Universe and Multiverse repositories". There are guides how to do this, but they ask me to go to menus that don't exist >_>10:24
bieb!dialup10:24
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto10:24
tchado_m12 right click in gnome panel and add new10:24
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AidanLI am trying to get my wireless USB adaptor to work. It is being detected however I need to install Ndiswrapper. I have the ndiswrapper files on my USB however my USB isn't being picked up by Ubuntu therefore I am unable to setup ndiswrapper. (I have no internet connection as it stands on ubuntu)10:25
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AidanLHelp would be greatly appriciated.10:26
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tk_i fiinaly got to install my ati driver. but when i rebooted and log inn i see my resolution being very high and nothing apart from the ubuntu background and my mouse pointer load.  any suggestions?10:26
tchado_someone have an idea for my crash with gnome-panel ?10:26
KenSentMeIs it possible to make a script that runs banshee or rhythmbox with a non-default soundcard? I have two soundcards and don't want to manually switch every time i want to play music through my second card.10:26
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name[17179700.924000]  ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/84 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0xb/47/0010:27
name/dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)10:27
namehey10:27
namethat scares me10:27
AidanLCan someone help me as I am unable to install ndiswrapper as my USB stick isn't being picked up. How can I go about getting it recognised by Ubuntu?10:27
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namewth is that10:28
namehelp meee ;)10:28
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sysdocDoes anyone know of an app like motorola phone tools for linux?10:29
terlmannhello,help, does apt have a global make.conf when compiling packages with --build source ?10:29
SpacePuppyname: why does that scare you?10:29
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namecause som/red10:29
g0lem123Greetings, Does anyone have a good site for the XO desktop? I understand it's the one that UBUNTU will be using on the OLPC machine.10:29
nameargh10:29
namei can't even type cause it appears10:29
terlmannand can someone point me to a wiki page that describes it?10:29
hjmillshttp://pastebin.ca/29969410:29
hjmillsi am having some problems with a script - the iwconfig command isnt working properly but it reports success and works when ran from the cli10:29
namefor something is not right with my drive10:29
nameor fs10:29
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AidanLCan someone help me as my USB memory stick isn't being picked up by ubuntu...10:30
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nameAidanL: did you try mounting it manually?10:30
hepmedoes ubuntu livecd use only /dev/ram* meaning once i reboot there's no way to save any data, like if i edited a text file?10:30
AidanLNo...10:30
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SpacePuppyname: ya, it's kinda funny that an IDE drive is mounted on sda110:30
SpacePuppyname: does it work?10:31
nameits not IDE10:31
nameit works with ro10:31
namelearn to read ^^10:31
IndyGunFreakhow do you install the GDM themes from http://www.gnome-look.org       ?10:31
AidanLHow do I mount it?10:31
nameits SATA10:31
nameAidanL: do some rtfm10:31
AidanL(I am new to Ubuntu/Linux)10:31
nameAidanL: search google ;)10:31
kitche!rtfm|name10:31
ubotuname: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.10:31
nameah10:31
namesorry10:31
namei didn't mean it unfriendly but10:31
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louis  /!usb10:32
louis!usb10:32
namedamn this10:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:32
nameim kinda upset10:32
AidanLI came here purely because I needed help. Obviously it is wrong - well to some people anyway.10:32
nameit's not10:32
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IndyGunFreakdoe sanyone know how to install a gdm theme from gnome-look.org?10:32
namei just have enough probs with my computer atm10:32
AidanLThats fair enough.10:32
namedidn't mean it unfriendly10:32
namejust told you to search google10:32
s34nI've got a harddrive with LVM volumes on it I would like to read from my ubuntu station so I can suck data off10:33
tritium!enter > name10:33
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s34nI read that I need to apt-get install lvm210:33
IndyGunFreakname, perhaps you should clarify who you're talking to.10:33
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AidanLkk Name:)10:33
nameIndyGunFreak: hm?10:33
s34nbut I suppose I will also need to configure fstab to mount the volumes10:33
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superjoeI'm a noob, how do I connect my ubuntu hp laptop to my wireless network10:34
fr500__!enter10:34
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!10:34
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namesorry but that bot kinda annoys me ^^10:34
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fr500__superjoe: does ubuntu see your wireless nic?10:34
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VerdRousseauI have a .deb file and I want to install it, I double click it but says cant install because of permissions; how do I do this as root?10:34
namesudo dpkg -i package.deb10:35
sysdocIndyGunFreak, system>prefrences>Themes Install Theme10:35
superjoei don't think so, where do I look/10:35
xtiani know this isnt ubuntu related, but if i wanted to learn C, and i didnt have much previous knowledge would the "C primer" book (the blue one) be a good choice10:35
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ale_nessuno parla italiano?10:35
fr500__VerdRousseau: it should try to escalate premissions automatically, anyway gksudo gdebi debfile.deb10:35
ale_buonasera10:35
Lynoure!it | ale_10:35
ubotuale_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:35
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s34nubotu:  please tell s34n about lvm10:35
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fr500__superjoe: open the network control panel and see if it appears there10:35
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AidanLIt is probably better to see if I can get my USB wireless adaptor working before flash drive. How can I go about configuring Ubuntu so that my wireless will work?10:36
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HymnToLife!wireless | AidanL10:36
ubotuAidanL: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:36
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fr500__!wireless > AidannL10:36
AidanL!wireless10:36
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:36
superjoefr500:i'm sorry how do I get to network control panel?10:37
ale_grazie10:37
fr500__superjoe: System-Admnistration-Network10:37
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dhqneed help setting up bluetooth10:37
dhqplease help10:38
namethat's a really good question10:38
namewhat about some information like what blootooth device etc10:38
VerdRousseauwhere do you find gtkwifi on your desktop?10:38
billstei!udev10:38
ubotuudev: rule-based device node and kernel event manager. In component main, is important. Version 093-0ubuntu18 (edgy), package size 224 kB, installed size 768 kB10:38
Everflexwhat option do i need to make in /etc/fstab so i can read/write without root?10:38
nameman chmod10:38
superjoefr500: network settings says wireless connection not configured10:39
nameah sorry10:39
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namemisread ;)10:39
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kitcheEverflex: this should help you10:39
rverrips/leave10:39
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kitche!permission >Everflex10:39
trev__isntalled tremulous as root but now i can't permantenly change options, would changing the owner back to me fix this?10:39
AidanLMy wireless isn't even being picked up:(. It shows up when I do lsusb in Terminal.10:39
fr500__AidanL try ndiswrapper10:40
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kitchetrev__: no since tremulous makes a fodler in your home folder called .tremulous10:40
Everflexkitche: thx, i'll have a look ;)10:40
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trev__kitche:that folder has padlock icon over it10:40
fredlhi guys, is it against channel rules to ask for people to help with an opensource project?10:41
tritiumfredl: no10:41
AidanLMy problem is, is that I can't get ndiswrapper installed because my USB isn't being picked up therefore I cannot transfer the ndiswrapper files over to Ubuntu.10:41
fr500__AidanL try ndiswrapper10:41
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fredlalright, so I've started this project called 'GLUE'. I could use some help, a LOT of help actually :)10:41
fredlif you want to check out what it is, check http://glue.3dn.nl10:42
AidanLfr500. How can I try it if I cannot get the ndiswrapper files onto Ubuntu?10:42
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pegger_is it here the xfce guru?10:42
AidanLI can't get the files on because my USB stick isn't being picked up...:(10:42
nolimitsoya!justask | pegger10:42
name!meta10:42
ubotupegger: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about meta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:42
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fredlit's not the fastest site on the planet since it's at my DSL connection :-)10:43
fr500__Aidan weird10:43
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nolimitsoyafredl, whats the purpouse of this project?10:43
AidanLYeah I know...10:43
pegger_what is the different if i install the xubuntu or install the xfce for the ubuntu?10:43
VerdRousseaujust ran sudo dpkg -i gtkwifi.deb; dont know where to find it on my desktop?10:44
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fredlnolimitsoya, the purpose is described on http://wiki.3dn.nl/index.php/GLUE10:44
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nolimitsoyapegger_, the xubuntu package will include loads (diffrent) of defaults and some common apps10:44
fredlnolimitsoya, the description is fairly terse however.10:44
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rogue780can someone reccomend a text-based gcc IDE similar to RHIDE for djgpp?10:45
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fredlEither way, 'GLUE' is supposed to be a layer on top of the so many existing version control / bugtracking / SCM products.10:45
dhqname: mine is a intel laptop with bluetooth nuiltin10:45
dhqbuiltin10:45
s34nwhat do I have to do to discover and mount existing lvm volumes?10:46
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fredldoes that make enough sense?10:46
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rogue780can someone reccomend a text-based gcc IDE?10:46
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rogue780besides emacs10:46
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fredlIDE?10:46
HymnToLifevim :)10:46
nolimitsoyarogue780, bash+vi? ;)10:46
VerdRousseauAnyone know where to find gtkwifi?10:47
fredlyeah.. haha, text based IDE = bash10:47
ExM3th1xcould anybody tell me how to enable overburn in gnomebaker?10:47
ExM3th1xiam using version 0.6.010:47
ExM3th1x(edgy)10:47
trev__ok, i am playing tremulous, can anyone tell me what to set the permissions to its config file in my home folder so i can save my options?10:47
fr500__VerdRousseau: i guess you gotta add it to the panel, right click the panel and add it, should try networkmanager tho10:47
nolimitsoyatrev__, chown username:group /folder10:47
nolimitsoya*-r10:47
fredlanybody have any comment/questions on GLUE ?10:47
trev__ok, thx10:47
VerdRousseaudo you have to install network manager or where is it?10:48
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nolimitsoyafredl, im not sure... what would be diffrent from, say, launchpad?10:48
tritiumVerdRousseau: no, you don't have to, but if you want to, you certainly can10:48
VerdRousseauI mean is it already installed?10:48
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fredlnolimitsoya, well it's not a bugtracking system OR a version control system itself.....10:48
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mnoirpegger_: if you install xfce on top of ubuntu you will have all the gnome tools as well.  There is not a very great difference.  maybe #xubuntu would be a good place to discuss10:48
dhqneed help setting up bluetooth i cannot discover bluetooth from my cell nothing i am using a intel dell latitude d505 laptop bluetooth builtin10:48
nolimitsoyafredl, right... so its just a web interface?10:49
trev__nolimitsoya:what do you set the group to10:49
fredlnolimitsoya, it's supposed to be an application that keeps track of software modules, in which version control system they're kept, which bugtracking system is used for it etc.10:49
superjoe_anyone willing to help me connect to my wireles network from hp laptop w ubuntu10:49
nolimitsoyatrev__, whatever group you belong to10:49
VerdRousseauso you reccomend network manager over gtkwifi?10:49
pegger_thanx mnoir10:49
mnoirnp good luck10:49
trev__nolimitsoya:im a little confused, what group does the default user usually belong to?10:49
fredlnolimitsoya, nope, not quite. When the database is populated, GLUE should be able to use all this information to generate 'releases' coming from different repositories/bugtracking systems.10:50
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nolimitsoyatrev__, same as your username10:50
trev__ok10:50
trev__nolimitsoya:thx10:50
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mnoirtrev__: by convention, every user belongs to a group of the same name as the user.  the first user you make when installing also belongs to many other groups10:50
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fiveironwhere are HDDs mounted now?  not in /etc/fstab anymore i see10:51
fritschhi! is there a way to just build the "generic" kernel from the 2.6.20 feisty kernel10:51
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fritschit lasted over 5 hours to build me the whole stuff from this package10:51
mnoirtrev__: to see, in terminal type 'grep username /etc/group'10:51
mnoiror just 'less /etc/group'10:51
trev__thx10:52
tritiumfritsch: don't bother unless you absolutely need to10:52
tk_hey.. how do i reinstall the x server on ubuntu 6.10?10:52
fredlnolimitsoya, additionally, GLUE should be able to generate (automatically) things like RPM's, DEB's etc. depending on the component's settings.10:52
fritschtritium: there must be an option, an argument i think?10:52
stooge4everhey, my liveCD won't boot - on 6.06, errors appear having to do with the ide and hdc, and on 6.10, the screen freezes while the OS is booting up; i think they freeze at around the same place10:52
tritiumfritsch: nope10:53
tritiumfritsch: Why are you building a custom kernel?  Do you really need to?10:53
fritschtritium: yes i do10:53
fritschtritium: i build kernels now over five years, so this is not the problem, i just wanted to stick to the ubuntu packages10:53
tritiumfritsch: what is the need that the stock kernel does not address for you?10:54
fredlnolimitsoya, am I making any sense? :-)10:54
fritschtritium: some patches, for exampe acpi ones10:54
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fritschtritium: and the ubuntu version is more integrated10:54
fritschtritium: i do not have to google hours to search important patches and apply them myself10:54
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nolimitsoyafredl, some. :) a more stringent description on the website, and a link to a faq, would probably be helpfull in generating more intrest :)10:54
tritiumfritsch: if you want packages, be sure to install kernel-package and use make-kpkg10:55
fritschtritium: some even get rejected, i have to fix them to apply mysel10:55
fritschtritium: okay ;-) sorry, i do not think you can really help me10:55
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fredlnolimitsoya, hey I built what I have in 4 days and I'm just cranking away at coding, I have no time to document stuff yet!10:55
fredl:)10:55
tritiumfritsch: you haven't asked anything10:55
fritschtritium: as i said above, i build debian kernel images for years now10:55
fritschtritium: i did10:55
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AidanLHow do I get to root in terminal as I need to get to root in order to "make install" for ndiswrapper.10:55
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fritschtritium: i get the linux-image source from the feisty kernel10:55
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nolimitsoyafredl, but without it, you wont have much luck recruiting, and thats what you wanted, wasnt it?10:56
fritschtritium: agfter that i ran a dpkg-buildpackage to compile it on edgy10:56
fredlnolimitsoya, just imagine... 'glue build UBUNTU.ubuntu.org'10:56
nolimitsoya^^10:56
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fritschtritium: problem is: bigiron, 386, etc. kernels are build this needs 5 hours10:56
doviendeAidanL: "sudo make install"10:56
fritschtritium: i just want to compile the generic version10:56
tritiumYou can't, as I said, from the linux-source packages10:56
fritschtritium: i think i can, i just look into debian/rules10:57
AidanLok thanks.10:57
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fredlthat should hopefully explain it better :) that command should get a list of all components in UBUNTU.ubuntu.org, for each of the components it should check all packages for open bugs, check out the revisions from the respective version control systems, and build debs!10:57
fritschtritium: but i thought somebody has it handy for me already10:57
AidanLit tells me no rule to make target 'install'10:57
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Commander-Crowehi! I have Ubuntu Drapper installed and my wireless card shows up in the networking app. Yet I'm not able to connect to the local wireless router10:57
zcheruscan someone recommend me good sftp daemon and possibly a guide for setting it up (including fxps)10:57
doviendeCommander-Crowe: what did you use to attempt to connect?10:58
fredlnolimitsoya, but you're right.... I'll document the purpose more clearly and come back and ask more :)10:58
stooge4everdoes anybody know whether there are compatibility issues b/t the ubuntu liveCD and an ATI Radeon card?10:58
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fritschtritium: just found it10:58
Commander-Crowethe networking app that comes with drapper10:58
zcherus!fxps10:58
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fxps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:58
AidanLstooge4ever - I don't think it is, I had trouble.10:58
fredldrapper?10:58
fritschtritium: in debian/control i just comment out the packages i do not need10:58
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doviendeCommander-Crowe: and is your wireless router using WEP or WPA or no encryption?10:58
mnoirAidanL: then you are not in the right place or not following directions or using a package that is not conventionally made10:58
stooge4everAidanL, you don't think what is?10:58
hjmillswhat stuff do i need to install for java in firefox?10:59
Commander-Crowedoviende: there is no encryption10:59
mnoir!java10:59
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository10:59
mwe!java | hjmills10:59
ubotuhjmills: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository10:59
AidanLI don't think that ATI radeon cards a compatible10:59
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braddcadd2000Anyone willing to help configure my scanner through xsane?10:59
mwehjmills: it comes with the plugin as well10:59
stooge4everso what should i do? revert to my orig. card?10:59
hjmillsmnoir and mwe: thanks10:59
mnoirhth :)11:00
AidanLbecause I had major problems using Live CD. I ended up downloading the ALT download and then recongifuring the x-server and set the driver as Versa (I think) and NOT ATI.11:00
doviendeCommander-Crowe: ok, open a terminal and type "sudo iwlist scanning" and tell me if it sees your wireless router there11:00
hjmillsmwe: that was the important bit - i didnt know if that was the plugin and all11:00
AidanLYou could try although im not sure what that would do.11:00
mwehjmills: come back if you can't get java to work in your browser after you have installed that11:00
VerdRousseauNow I just downloaded and installed network manager but not sure where It shows up have no idea where it is?11:00
mwehjmills: you probably need to create a symlink. We'll explain how11:00
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stooge4everwell, my original card (still in the comp) is integrated with the oard, and it's worked before with dapper11:00
hjmillsVerdRousseau: eurgh - fiddled with that earlier - always seems to break my pc - good luck11:00
Musashiwhat11:01
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mnoirverd - if you know synaptic - use it to locate any file in the package11:01
HentaiSushi_um11:01
Commander-CroweIb see 411:01
HentaiSushi_i tried the live cd and it wouldnt run11:01
AidanLstooge: you could try that then.11:01
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pistai've updated to feisty alpha, and now my sata2 drive (asus p5b-e, jmicron ich8) is slow (hdparm -tT /dev/hda shows buffered disk read 3MBps). what can be the problem?11:01
adamEalright11:01
Commander-Croweall say "Interfernce doesn't support scanning."11:01
Twinxorhow should I format this USB stick so it's all one partition?11:01
VerdRousseauso what do I do with synaptic mnoir (kinda confused)11:01
BHSPitMonkeypista, #ubuntu+111:01
mwepista: the problem could be that fiesty is totally unstable11:02
doviendeCommander-Crowe: hmm....ok, i guess there's still some problem with drivers or something11:02
Commander-Croweexcept eth1 it says "Interfernce doesn't support sscanning. : No Such Device"11:02
mnoirVerdRousseau: i will start at beginning - how did you install it?11:02
doviendeCommander-Crowe: what type of wireless device?11:02
Commander-Croweeth1 is wireless adapter11:02
VerdRousseauthrough synaptic11:02
mweCommander-Crowe: iwconfig11:02
Commander-Crowedoviende: so what? install ndiswrapper?11:02
Commander-Crowedoviende: I'm not sure11:02
mnoirok - is synaptic still open?11:02
AidanLCould someone assist me with the install of ndiswrapper. I am struggling... again.11:02
VerdRousseauyes11:02
TannJi11:02
TannHi11:03
phr34ckis there a way to save all currently installed packages into an external or something ?11:03
Commander-CroweIEEE 802.11b/g11:03
mweAidanL: you got to a little more specific ;)11:03
Commander-CroweBroadcom 430611:03
Tannwhere can i download ndiswrapper for Edgy?11:03
mweAidanL: got to be*11:03
BHSPitMonkeyAidanL, can you get the computer in question on the internet somehow? (so you can install stuff.)11:03
fritschphr34ck: you think as kind of backup?11:03
mnoirgood - go to settings - preferences11:03
AidanLNo.11:03
phr34ckfritsch,  yes11:03
VerdRousseaualright11:03
doviendeCommander-Crowe: ohhh....broadcom.  this should be interesting ;)11:03
mnoirmake sure show package props is clicked11:03
TannHello11:03
HentaiSushi_omg TIME OUT HENTAISUSHI11:03
fritschphr34ck: i would suggest you to use partimage11:03
phr34ckbecause I downloaded so many updates, and I don't want to do that each time I install Ubuntu.11:03
Tannwhere can i download ndiswrapper for Edgy?11:03
VerdRousseauk11:03
BHSPitMonkeyAidanL, is this edgy we're talking about?11:03
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AidanLYeah:)11:03
mnoirclick ok11:03
doviendeCommander-Crowe: ok, hold on, let me find some URLs on ubuntuforums.org for you11:04
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VerdRousseauk11:04
AidanLI am using a USB stick to transfer the ndiswrapper tar.gz file.11:04
mnoiruse search to find pkg you installed11:04
Commander-Crowedoviende: its an inspiron 1150 laptop11:04
TannHello?11:04
fritschphr34ck: this save your whole partition, tars it and here you go11:04
Commander-Croweok11:04
mweAidanL: source code?11:04
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VerdRousseauk11:04
TannI need help11:04
phr34ckfritsch, will give it a try thanks.11:04
doviendeCommander-Crowe: i think all we need to know is that it's a broadcom 430611:04
mweAidanL: can you extract it and compile?11:04
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mnoirmake sure is highlit and click installed files tab11:04
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AidanLI can extraxt it yes11:05
fritschphr34ck: be careful to save the image to another partition11:05
AidanLextract*11:05
VerdRousseauk11:05
mweAidanL: but not compile?11:05
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fritschphr34ck: you cannot backup a partition and write the backup to it11:05
phr34ckfritsch,  sure.11:05
TannHello?11:05
fritschTann: hello!11:05
phr34ckFirst I have to search for the software ;p11:05
AidanLI don't think so. But I am not sure. (forgive me, I am new to all this)11:05
fritschphr34ck: sudo apt-get install partimage11:05
mnoirprolly many files - look for it in a dir with /bin/ in the string11:05
phr34ckaha, great.11:05
Tannfritsch: where can i download ndiswrapper for Edgy?11:05
mweAidanL: you need to install linux-headers-$(uname -r) and build-essential or else it wont compile11:05
phr34ckThanks.11:05
hjmillsAidanL: try getting the deb from packages.ubuntu.com and installing that11:05
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fritschTann: apt-cache search ndiswrapper11:05
fritschTann: perhaps it is already installed11:05
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VerdRousseaumnoir-what are we looking for?11:06
Tanni don't have internet11:06
fritschTann: you are online now?11:06
mnoirVerdRousseau: network manager?11:06
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Tannit is not installed11:06
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fritschTann: ndiswrapper is already patched in the ubuntu kernel11:06
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fritschTann: you just need the utils11:06
Tannfritsch: on a different11:06
Tanncomp11:06
AidanLOk mwe and hjmills. I will try that.11:06
mnoirVerdRousseau: look for files in /usr/bin11:06
fritschTann: just apt-get it on you current and copy the deb file from /var/cache/apt/archives/11:07
doviendeCommander-Crowe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201902&highlight=broadcom+430611:07
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fritschTann: to the other one11:07
doviendeCommander-Crowe: that seems to be for your wireless adapter11:07
mweAidanL: building from source and installing a binary .deb are fundamentally different ;)11:07
mnoirVerdRousseau: 6.06 or 6.10?11:07
Tannfritsch: my current has win11:07
VerdRousseauk here /usr/bin/nm-appplet?11:07
fritschTann: ah perhaps better ;-)11:07
VerdRousseau6.1011:07
AidanLI see.11:07
phr34ckmeh, it's not connecting to archive.ubuntu.com11:07
Commander-Croweok11:07
fritschTann: just go to packages.ubuntu.com11:07
mnoirah - great - i can show you how to make a click for it...11:07
BHSPitLappyFor all of you who need to set up ndiswrapper, and don't have an internet connection on that computer, I have collected some useful Wifi packages for edgy, you can find them here: http://bhs2007.googlepages.com/edgy-wifi.zip11:07
Tannok11:07
fritschphr34ck: wrong proxy?11:07
doviendeCommander-Crowe: unfortunately this type of wireless adapter seems to take more effort than others11:07
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VerdRousseaualright...11:07
fritschTann: remeber to fetch the right version11:08
phr34ckahhh it's working now11:08
mweif you use the applet to install the network it will only work if gnome is running wont it?11:08
BHSPitLappyPut those on some kind of disk and install them on the PC... they'll all even fit on a floppy11:08
Tannfritsch: k11:08
mnoirVerdRousseau: you are running gnome or kde?11:08
phr34ckfritsch,  I want to ask you. How can I "permentaly" change the mac addres?11:08
arn0ldHi I'm having a problem with my mouse, the sensitivity is still way too high in games even with the lowest settings on11:08
MuffY what is everyones favourite text editor11:08
VerdRousseaugnome11:08
MuffYas in code editor (C/C++ code)11:08
mweMuffY: that's a religous question ;)11:08
fritschphr34ck: permanent, also when your computer is poered off11:08
phr34ckeach time I boot Ubuntu, I go to change the mac address .. it's a pain in the behind.11:08
MuffYi know :P11:08
fritschphr34ck: no go (for easy)11:08
mnoirk - right click your bar at the top11:08
hjmillsMuffY: vim11:08
MuffYbut i have no idea now11:08
mnoirin a blank area11:08
arn0lddoes anyone know of a way I can manually edit the mouse sensitivity?11:08
fritschphr34ck: but you could run a random mac change script11:08
mweMuffY: probably vim or emacs11:08
Commander-Crowedoviende: yeah I'm used to ndiswraper...its all I ever used11:08
MuffYso after the rampage i'll have some options to choose from11:09
VerdRousseauk11:09
MuffYwoo11:09
MuffYty peeps11:09
fritschphr34ck: just install macchanger11:09
phr34ckfritsch, Do you think it will be easy to create a script and run it at boot ?11:09
mnoirVerdRousseau: first item should be add to panel - clickit11:09
fritschphr34ck: very easy11:09
MuffYwill check now, and please don't start a holy war while i'm gone =p11:09
fritschphr34ck: sudo apt-get install macchanger11:09
doviendeCommander-Crowe: if everything's working, you should be able to see the card in iwconfig and you should be able to scan with iwlist11:09
phr34ckKay, will do.11:09
VerdRousseauk11:09
arn0ldcan anyone help11:09
VerdRousseaunow custom app launch?11:09
fritschphr34ck: after that just look over the readme11:09
mwe!helpme11:09
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:09
mnoiryou get big window of stuff?11:09
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VerdRousseauyes11:09
hjmillsarn0ld: its in the gnome mouse setting panel11:09
Commander-Crowedoviende: ok...right now I'm using the eth0 connection11:10
phr34ckfritsch, thanks a lot.11:10
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arn0ldits already lowest there11:10
mnoirit should be somewhere there11:10
bdsMuffY: Try typing vimtutor11:10
fritschphr34ck: no problem11:10
bdsMuffY: to get you started11:10
arn0ldThe problem is I need it lower11:10
MuffY?11:10
VerdRousseauthe network manager should be11:10
MuffYhere?11:10
mnoiryes11:10
MuffY!vimtutor11:10
hjmillsarn0ld: why lower?11:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vimtutor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:10
mnoirVerdRousseau: yes11:10
bdsMuffY: Not here, vimtutuor is a tutorial on how to use vim11:10
phr34ckfritsch, partimage will save all these packages, yes ?11:10
arn0ldNeed it lower to play a game11:10
VerdRousseauno only thing is network monitor but already have that11:10
mwefiguring out how to quit emacs the first time can be a challenge as well ;)11:10
mnoirhrmmmm11:10
bdsMuffY: It has a little bit of a learning curve11:10
fritschphr34ck: it will same your partition11:10
MuffYbds: ah, on the internets?11:10
fritschphr34ck: as an image11:10
VerdRousseaudo I haved to do a custom app launch?11:10
Tannfritsch: i am lost11:11
MuffYbds: i don;t mind11:11
bdsMuffY: From the command line11:11
MuffYbds: i have the time11:11
mnoirVerdRousseau: are you running 6.06 or 6.10?11:11
BHSPitMonkeyAidanL, Tann, have you got the ndiswrapper stuff figured out?11:11
phr34ckSo lets say I have formatted my computer, how can I restore it?11:11
fritschphr34ck: you just want to save the "downloaded" pacakges?11:11
MuffY(and hopefully the patience)11:11
Tannfritsch: do i need the common and utils?11:11
MuffY?11:11
MuffYnono11:11
VerdRousseau6.1011:11
fritschphr34ck: you boot with lets say knoppix (or something else)11:11
phr34ckfritsch, yeah something like that.11:11
MuffYi just want something to write code in11:11
mnoirgive me 2 min to find on my sys11:11
VerdRousseauk11:11
bdsMuffY: It is very similar to vi, which should be installed on any unix like machine11:11
fritschphr34ck: then you run partimage an just play your old image in11:11
MuffYwith syntax highlighting and such11:11
phr34ckLike yesterday, I updated 82 packages and it took the whole day.11:11
pianoboy3333Anyone here good with ndiswrapper?11:11
mweMuffY: emacs. don't believe people who tell you to use vim ;)11:11
phr34ckI don't want that to happen when I install ubuntu ...11:11
fritschphr34ck: some packages are in /var/cache/apt/archives/11:11
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AidanLI have installed ndiswrapper from a .dab package. Whereabouts will it be stored so I can access it?11:12
fritschphr34ck: but i do not think just saving them ist sufficant11:12
BHSPitLappypianoboy3333, everybody's going nuts over ndiswrapper right now :S11:12
AidanLI have found it. Forgive me.11:12
bdsMuffY: Emacs or Vi/Vim are both good choices for writing code11:12
tritiumAidanL: via apt?  /var/cache/apt/archives11:12
mweAidanL: if it worked, sudo modprobe ndiswrapper should work11:12
fritschphr34ck: because having the packages is not a mirror itself (a packages mirror)11:12
phr34ckwell, I think will make an imagine and will learn how to make work and everything.11:12
MuffYok11:12
bdsMuffY: Syntax highlighting, code folding, etc.11:12
mnoirVerdRousseau: i am installing - 2 more min :)11:12
devi just installed ubuntu like a day ago, went to play a clip on cnn in firefox and it says totem is unable to handle mms11:12
VerdRousseauk no problem11:12
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Argorancan sb help me with xchat?11:13
MuffYsoo, where is vim :o11:13
bdsMuffY: I prefer vim, but as mwe pointed out it is a personal preference11:13
phr34ckfritsch,  form where I can launch those 2 programs you gave me?11:13
fritschTann: whats the problem?11:13
MuffYyou said it should be here somewhere :p11:13
fritschphr34ck: just open a terminal11:13
fritschphr34ck: sudo partimage11:13
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phr34ckahh okay11:13
Tannwhat files shoud download11:13
MuffY(i installed ubuntu about 8 hours ago, so i'm a bit new =))11:13
fritschphr34ck: but, one last time, be very careful11:13
mweMuffY: yeah. try them both. I was just promoting my personal favorite ;)11:13
phr34ckfritsch, will do mate.11:13
bdsMuffY: Open a terminal and type 'vimtutor'11:13
Argoranwho can I activate the buddylist in xchat on the right side?11:13
BHSPitLappyTann, where are you at with this?11:13
phr34ckOne question ... like now, where did they get saved?11:13
Tannfritsch: do i need the common and utils?11:13
MuffYyay!11:13
fritschTann: i think the ndiswrapper stuff is already installed11:14
bdsMuffY: or to cut to the chase type 'vim'11:14
phr34ckI did install the package, but where did they got installed?11:14
fritschTann: mom i check on a fresh edgy11:14
fritschTann: ah they are not11:14
Tannok11:14
MuffYbash says vimtutor is nonexistent11:14
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AidanLThere was a fatal error when doing sudo modprove ndiswrapper. There was an invalid argument.11:14
ArgoHi11:14
Tannfritsch: what should i do?11:14
mweMuffY: sudo aptitude install vim11:14
Argocan anybody help me with XChat?11:14
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MuffY    version 7.0.3511:14
fritschTann: try to download these: ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.811:14
MuffY~                           by Bram Moolenaar et al.  << that's a dutchie =)11:14
mweMuffY: oh11:15
fritschTann: two packages11:15
mweodd11:15
BHSPitLappyAidanL, have you set up your card yet, in ndiswrapper? given it the driver, etc?11:15
AidanLNo11:15
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AidanLI don't know where to find the driver. That is a problem I am having/11:15
tritiumAidanL: you installed the ubuntu package, I hope?11:15
fritschTann: later they are installed with: sudo dpkg -i "the above named packeges"11:15
MuffYat least his name is dutch11:15
BHSPitLappyAidanL, you get the driver from the manufacturer's CD or site...11:15
mweMuffY: vim is supposed to provide vimtutor11:15
AidanLTritium, I did yes.11:15
AidanLI see.11:15
tritiumgood11:15
BHSPitLappyyou'll find an inf file somewhere11:15
VerdRousseauwhen I do install network manager which one do I click on regular network manager or network manager gnome?11:15
bdsmwe: I thought it did as well o_011:16
Tannfritsch: ok11:16
mnoirVerdRousseau: in terminal type man nm-applet to read about this.  I am not quickly finding good answer for you so you may as well read along - I will race you to the answer :)11:16
AidanLI will do that now then. I am very sorry about this. I am new to Ubuntu.11:16
tritiumAidanL: no need to apologize :)11:16
mwebds: it does I'm sure ;) odd11:16
VerdRousseaulol alright soudn good but did you see that question before that11:16
BHSPitLappyVerdRousseau, to install, you get the -gnome11:16
VerdRousseauabout which one to install11:16
MuffYuhm, bds, vim doesn;t really look splendid11:16
AidanL:)11:16
VerdRousseauK11:16
MuffYwhat did i do wrong11:16
VerdRousseaucause I am doin a reinstall of it11:16
MuffYit's just a terminal window :/11:16
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mweMuffY: yes ;)11:16
Argorancan anybody help me with xchat?11:16
bdsMuffY: That is the learning curve part11:16
MuffY:p11:17
BHSPitLappyAidanL, no problem. Ndiswrapper isn't a wireless driver, it's something that lets you use Windows wireless card drivers in linux.11:17
mweMuffY: now start typing ;)11:17
fritschphr34ck: an apt proxy you could also install11:17
MuffYi did11:17
mnoirVerdRousseau: where did it show before?11:17
Everflexhow do i make a Volume behave like the /home directory (so i can write to it without root)11:17
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MadpilotArgoran, lots of people here use it - just ask your question, you should get help...11:17
VerdRousseauNever mind it installs both when you click one11:17
Cypherhow can i daul boot with windows11:17
fritschEverflex: you have to mount it correctly11:17
bdsIs vimtutor a seperate package?11:17
MuffYbut it doesn;t highlight anything =(11:17
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BHSPitLappyAidanL, did you get that link I sent out earlier? It contains ndisgtk, it makes it a -tad- easier, and it also includes some other useful wifi packages.11:17
Cyphermenu.lst need to be configured11:17
mnoirVerdRousseau: you all set?11:17
mweMuffY: :q! to quit or :w to save the file. it will use highlighting by default I think. there is gvim if you want a more windows like thingy11:17
Argoranok thx Madpilot11:17
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Cypherhow to do that11:17
MuffYbds: you shouldn't ask me =p11:17
phr34ckfritsch, I'm looking for something that will do my work at boot time. Like each time I want to change the mac-address "and that happens each time I want to connect to the internet", I do the following:11:17
bdsMuffY: It does, you need to se up your .vimrc file11:18
phr34cksudo ifconfig eth0 down11:18
Everflexfritsch: i'm mounting it with fstab, but i just can't find an option that does what i want.11:18
phr34cksudo ifconfig eth0 hw ether MACADDRESS11:18
hjmillsMuffY: run "sudo updatedb && locate vimrc" then edit that file and turn syntax highlighting on11:18
Argoranmy problem with XChat is following: The buddylist should normally be on the right of the windows, but it isn't11:18
phr34cksudo ifconfig eth0 up11:18
BHSPitLappyAidanL, http://bhs2007.googlepages.com/edgy-wifi.zip11:18
AidanLIt is telling me that HArdware isn't present. Although it is.11:18
phr34ckI just want these 3 steps to be done at boot time.11:18
Argorancan anybody give me a advice how to activate the buddy-list?11:18
fritschEverflex: umask set correctly?11:18
mweMuffY: it should hightlight depending on the extension by default I think11:18
BHSPitLappyArgoran, there's #xchat for xchat support11:18
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Argoranthank you BHSPitLappy11:19
fritschEverflex: /dev/sda2 /media/sda2     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       111:19
fritschEverflex: this is an example11:19
fr500__Argoran: see the icon that says 925 users?11:19
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fritschEverflex: the device /dev/Sda2 is mounted to /media/sda2 <- this is a local directory, this must exist11:19
MuffYhjmills: it gives a "how to use apt-get" thing11:19
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fr500__click there11:19
MuffYso i think the syntax isn;t right11:19
BHSPitLappyAidanL, hmm. and you gave it the proper .inf file?11:19
hjmillsMuffY: that update db && ... command?11:19
Argoranfr500__ no I can't see it11:20
fritschphr34ck: just a script like this11:20
MuffYnm hjmills11:20
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Everflexfritsch: yeah.. i have the drive mounted and all (it's ext3) but i can only write to it with root.,.11:20
hjmillsMuffY: that shouldnt be anything to do with apt11:20
fritschphr34ck: #!/bin/sh11:20
AidanLyes, the name: blkwgu.inf11:20
hjmillsMuffY: kk11:20
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MuffYi saw too many apt-gets today, i lost a bit of your code :P11:20
fritschphr34ck: ifconfig eth0 down11:20
fr500__Argoran: never mind, i'm with xchat-gnome sorry11:20
LinTuxI would like to install Xara Extreme in Kubuntu, what is the command in terminal to use as I cannot find the package?11:20
MuffYmy eeeyyeesss11:20
AidanLI dragged it into the blank white area and it was trying to install.11:20
BHSPitLappyAidanL, ah, it's a belkin...11:20
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Everflexfritsch: is it possible to use umask with ext3?11:20
mweMuffY: only files with extension like .c or whatever will be highlighted in vim I think11:20
MadpilotArgoran, are you running the real XChat, or the awful & useless XChat-Gnome?11:20
AidanLYeah...11:20
AidanLIt now says HArdware PResent.11:20
bdsMuffY: This is my .vimrc11:21
BHSPitLappygood11:21
fritschphr34ck: macchanger eth0 "YOUR MAC"11:21
fritschphr34ck: thats all11:21
bdsMuffY: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/165/11:21
phr34ckfritsch, interesting.11:21
ArgoranMadpilot its the gnome version11:21
phr34ckI should read an articale about how making scripting for boot time.11:21
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fritschEverflex: you do not need to, just look, that the directory you mount to has the correct permissions11:21
AidanLAlthough I don't know what to do next...11:21
phr34ckDo you know how I can configure my boot >?11:21
MuffYbds: your what?11:21
LinTuxcan anyone help me to install Xara Extreme in Kubuntu11:21
fritschphr34ck: easiest way is:11:21
BHSPitLappyAidanL, did you get that link I sent you earlier11:21
phr34ckLike Ubuntu does some stuff that I don't need "bluetooth and raid and stuff like that"11:21
AidanLYeah11:21
MadpilotArgoran, ick. Ditch that, use the older, better XChat. Xchat-gnome has some sort of goofy popup user list that can't be configured.11:21
AidanLThe Edgy Packages.11:22
fritschphr34ck: just append these lines to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh11:22
Everflexfritsch: so what should i use to change the permissions to that, chmod?11:22
mwebds: syntax highlighting is disabled by default? I guess I must have enabled it without giving thought to it11:22
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AidanLDo I install all of the packages on there?11:22
fritschEverflex: chown and chmod11:22
fritschEverflex: chown ist enough11:22
BHSPitLappyAidanL, it contains network-manager-gnome, you'll want that.11:22
MuffYbds: just for the record, i am a total n00b regarding anything ubuntu does11:22
phr34ckthat file is responsible for the boot ?11:22
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fritschEverflex: lets say you want to mount /dev/hda3 to /media/lala11:22
fritschEverflex: an the user "heinz" should be able to write to this directory11:22
bdsMuffY: from a terminal type the following 'vim ~/.vimrc'11:22
AidanLRighty Ill install that and report back:)11:22
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fritschjust do chown heinz:users /media/lala11:22
BHSPitLappyaye aye.11:22
Argoranok thx Madpilot11:23
fritschand mount /dev/hda3 per default to this directory11:23
bdsMuffY: When vim loads press 'i' to insert11:23
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LinTuxdoes anybody know the name for the package Xara Extreme so that I can install it via terminal11:23
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bdsMuffY: Type or paste the options you want11:23
mwefritsch: permissions of mount points have no effect once a file system is mounted ;)11:23
Tannfritsch: thanks11:23
mwefritsch: only options to mount do11:23
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MuffYok?11:24
bdsMuffY: Then hit the escape key and type ':wq!'11:24
mwefritsch: like umask etc11:24
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BHSPitLappyAidanL, just make sure to say my name in here, so I'll notice.11:24
bdsMuffY: Those setting will now be loaded everytime you start vim11:24
AidanLBHSPitLappy: Ah, it tells me the Dependency is not satisfyable: network Manager.11:24
Everflexmwe: okay, so is it in the fstab file i cahange wether i can write to the disk or not without root?11:24
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fritschmwe: you could be write, but chown after the mount should just be enough11:24
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MuffYwhat's the exclamation mark for?11:24
MuffYw for saving, q for quit11:24
mweEverflex: that or the command line11:24
phr34ckGuys, what font are you using?11:24
MuffYty bds11:25
BHSPitLappyAidanL, all the dependencies are in that archive.11:25
bdsMuffY: np :)11:25
phr34ckThis is soo uncomfortable. I'm using 1280x800 on a 15.4" screen.11:25
hjmillswhat symlinks do i need for the repo java to work in firefox?11:25
phr34ckI couldn't find any good font for that.11:25
mweMuffY: ! means don't ask me for confirmation. just do what I tell you. I know what I'm doing11:25
LinTuxDoes anybody know the package name for Xara Extreme in order for me to install it via terminal11:25
MuffYoh11:25
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AidanLBHSPitLappy: Do i need to put all of the .deb packages from the zipped file onto Ubuntu?11:25
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MuffYbut i don;t knwo whta i'm doing (yet), and it says some things are wrong, i guess i should have copied the comments xD11:26
VerdRousseaumnoir- Im restarting maybe thatll do the trick.11:26
stefan09hi11:26
BHSPitLappyAidanL, pretty much... do all except for wifi-radar for now.11:26
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AidanLOk :)11:26
kamuiwhat do I need to put into my /etc/fstab to allow a fat32 external hard drive to automount at boot AND allow any user to write to it?11:26
mweMuffY: what does it complain about ?11:26
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AidanLBHSPit: Where abouts should I place them on Ubuntu, Will my desktop do?11:26
kamuiright now I haev /dev/sda1       /media/BACKUP   auto    user,auto       0       011:26
MuffYit says your comments aren't valid commands (duhh..)11:26
MuffYso i'm removing the comments now11:27
alecjwkamui: if it's jujst the filesystem name that you nned to know, it's vfat11:27
kamuiI thought the USER option there allowed anyone to write to it11:27
mwekamui: you need umask=000 as well under options11:27
bdsMuffY: The comment character for .vimrc is ;11:27
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kamuinwe: umask=666?11:27
mwekamui: or umask=0000 rather11:27
AidanLBHSPitLappy: Should I place all of the packages on my desktop?11:27
mwekamui: no11:27
bdsMuffY: perhaps there was a problem with the paste11:27
mwekamui: it's a mask11:27
MuffYit says " in your link :P11:28
bdsMuffY: Sorry you are right11:28
mwekamui: umask=666 would mean perms read only11:28
bdsMuffY: It should be "11:28
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user2007under edgy eft, what gstreamer deb holds the mp3 codec?11:28
alecjwkamui: it allows anyone to mount/unmount it. to allow anyone to write it, sudo chmod -hR 777 <mountPoint>11:28
BHSPitLappyAidanL, you can place them all in some directory if you want, and you can install them all at once with a command, or just double click them.11:28
mwealecjw: that wont work for fat11:28
stefan09can someone help me with loading a kernel module please?11:28
BHSPitLappyAidanL, the desktop will work fine.11:28
mwekamui: listen to me please. I know what I'm talking about11:28
MuffYit doesn't regocnise " either11:29
mwealecjw: fat doesn't know about permissions11:29
fr500__user2007: maybe gstreamer ugly multiverse11:29
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mwealecjw: you need to use mount options like umask11:29
kamuimwe: I am, I just made the change11:29
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alecjwmwe: oh right. i thought FAT =>16 coyuld handle them11:29
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pipashi everybody11:29
MuffYbds: it won;t let me type a "11:29
mwealecjw: well it doesn't ;)11:29
AidanLBHS: Ok:)11:29
AidanLI will do that in a mo.11:29
Tannfritsch: How do you setup a network connection using the hardware that was installed using ndiswrapper?11:29
MuffYbds: nm it works now11:30
phr34ckany of you know a good C++ IDE to work with big projects? Like 15 files and more.11:30
mwekamui: does it work now? if not paste /etc/fstab to paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:30
binarydigitphr34ck: anjuta11:30
BHSPitLappyTann, I like using network-manager for wifi.11:30
biebLinuxTux are you trying to install Xara the graphics software?11:30
BULLEphr34ck: netbeans, eclipse ?11:30
kamuimwe: gotta remount real quick, seems that since Its also being used by samba, I can't just unmount11:30
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bdsMuffY: Vim is different in that it is modal11:30
Tannok11:30
mwekamui: oh11:30
bdsMuffY: Meaning you are either in edit or read only mode11:30
fr500__BHSPitLappy: and vpn too!11:30
user2007fr500__, doesnt seem to be11:30
mwekamui: kill samba if you have to11:31
MuffYbds: that sucks :p11:31
BHSPitLappyTann, you can get it (with its dependencies) in this file, if you want http://bhs2007.googlepages.com/edgy-wifi.zip11:31
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VerdRousseaumnoir- I restarted and I have the icon now but its saying no network connection11:31
fr500__user2007: it's either that or lame11:31
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VerdRousseaueven though I have connection11:31
phr34ckBULLE, I can use eclipse for C++ ?11:31
mnoirVerdRousseau: that is a totally new problem to me11:31
fritschTann: depends11:31
arrenlexphr34ck: Yes.11:31
bdsMuffY: It is tough to get used to but some people seems to like it11:31
mwephr34ck: if you install the plugin11:31
MuffYabout some things that aren't available in this version11:31
arrenlex!eclipse-cdt | phr34ck11:31
phr34ckI was readin the other day about how to install ecplice on Ubuntu ... I quit instantly ;p11:31
MuffYwhat's the current version?11:31
ubotueclipse-cdt: C/C++ Development Tools for Eclipse. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.1-3 (edgy), package size 17049 kB, installed size 21896 kB11:31
fritschTann: using network-manager is the easiest way11:31
mnoirVerdRousseau: what are you trying to do  and what have you done to do it?11:31
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MuffYw00t!11:32
MuffYi installed gvim by myself =)11:32
MuffYi even made up the commands ^_^11:32
mnoirVerdRousseau: if it is wireless i am totally lost11:32
mweMuffY: woah ;)11:32
MuffYi feel so 1337 now :p11:32
bdsMuffY: :)11:32
mweMuffY: you are indeed11:32
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MuffY|_3t5 T4|_|< |_13|< T|-|1511:33
hjmillsMuffY: vim being modal is gd - most of the time you will be in insert mode and can type v happily but press escape to get out of insert mode and u can jump akk over the text, do find and replace, delete whole blocks of text etc all without the help of a rodent11:33
MuffY:p11:33
MuffYdon;t worry, i'll stop it11:33
phr34ckKay, thanks.11:33
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arrenlex!leet | MuffY11:33
ubotuMuffY: 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.11:33
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kamuimwe: sorry, looked like I was IN irssi from the directory11:33
MuffYarrenlex: i was joking...11:34
phr34ckI'm downloading anjuta now, will give it a try and then I will install ecplice. I need it since it's an IDE for both C++ and Java, which I use them.11:34
mwekamui: yes?11:34
mnoirMuffY: if yiu are going to use (g)vim their own website is your friend as is #vim11:34
adam_hi! Is there anyone here who could help me with sound setup in Ubuntu?11:34
Tannfritsch: ok11:34
arrenlexMuffY: I know, it was mostly like a "whoa, there actually IS a !leet factoid!!"11:34
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MuffYlol11:34
kamuimwe: and after a full unmount and mount, not just the -o remount, I was able to create a directory as my regular user ;)11:34
MuffYok :P11:34
MuffYi was surprised too xD11:34
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AidanLBHSPitLappy: I am installing them now.11:35
kamuimwe: thanks a ton.  Let me just check and makes sure that my samba users can now write to teh drive and I think Ill be in great shape11:35
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mwekamui: that's great. the umask is working then. does ls -l the mount point confirm it?11:35
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AidanLBHSPITLappy: It keeps telling me that Software Channel is not available. YEt they do install...11:35
VerdRousseauAnyone here get their network manager working nicely?11:35
AidanLNo ignore me I read it wrong.11:35
MuffYtalk about 1337 h4xorz, read this webcomic: www.megatokyo.com11:35
Madpilotarrenlex, the bot is the smartest thing in this room, so of course there's a !leet tell ;)11:35
mwekamui: well that depends on the samba configuration but mounting it right is a necessity11:35
kamuimwe: yep, everyting is WRX for owner, user, group, tho Im now the owner...11:35
MuffYit's funny, and drawn nicely :O (it get's better when you read further)11:35
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arrenlexMadpilot: Well said.11:36
arrenlex!botsnack11:36
ubotuYum!11:36
Tannfritsch: where can i download the network manager11:36
tyme-!slap11:36
Hawk||-ACTION slaps tyme- around the head with a hydraulic pump11:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about slap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:36
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tyme-!slap  arrenlex11:36
Hawk||-ACTION slaps tyme- around the head with two electrodes11:36
BHSPitLappyaid11:36
adam_I am trying to set up a lexicon omega usb soundcard. Got some sinus tones working in sound preferences but can't find the card in the normal volume control. Then the test sounds stopped working as well...11:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about slap  arrenlex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:36
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BHSPitLappyAidanL, okay11:36
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tyme-pft11:37
tyme-=[11:37
s34nhow do you search for a particular apt package?11:37
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AidanLBHSPitLappy: I have a problem with: wpagui. It tells me there is an Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libqt4-core.11:37
bdsanybody tried installing ubuntu on a macbook?11:37
tyme-apt-cache search11:37
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tyme-sudo apt-cache search package11:37
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Kiongku!samba11:37
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT11:37
mnoirs34n: use synaptic11:37
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s34nhttp://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php claims mythtc is available through univers/multiverse, but I don't see it11:37
fritschTann: same location as before11:37
bdsDon't have a macbook yet but am thinking of it11:37
fritschTann: packages.ubuntu.com11:37
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bdsNot sure if I would use OSX11:38
Tannok11:38
VerdRousseauIs it possible network manager doesnt support my realtek card?11:38
ianthepetrockquick everyone, digg this article on digg.com! :D http://digg.com/apple/Microsoft_vs_The_World11:38
fritschTann: or directly, if you would alerady run an ubuntu, per sudo apt-get install network-manager11:38
tyme-s34n:  it isnt11:38
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Tannfritsch: which one do i need to download11:38
mweI don't use samba to connect to my windows machine. just smg:/11:38
Q_Continuumbds: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Ubuntu+macbook - looks like a few people have.11:39
mwesmb:/ *11:39
LeeJunFanhrm, no matter what I do I can't linux to burn a CD that DOS can read the contents of. Anyone else having problems like that from mkisofs? I can get a dir listing but I can't cd, nor can attrib see any files.11:39
fritschTann: you have a ubuntu cd handy?11:39
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adam_I get this message: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: The resource is busy or not .11:39
fritschTann: then just issue: sudo apt-get install network-manager from your terminal11:39
MuffYi seem to be unable to change my screen resolution higher than 1024x768, while i've had 1280x1024 for about a month on windows11:39
Tannyes11:39
Tannok11:39
jasini'm back :)11:39
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foobar^where the hell is grub.conf? :p11:39
arrenlex!fixres | MuffY11:39
ubotuMuffY: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:39
hjmills!java11:40
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository11:40
bdsQ_Continuum: Heh, I have surfed a few of the sites but was curious if anyone here had first hand experience11:40
eztklocate gub.conf11:40
bdsQ_Continuum: thanks though, :)11:40
Q_ContinuumI haven't but am considering it11:40
MuffYty arrenlex =D11:40
AidanLBHSPitLappy: What do I do next?11:40
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eztkgrub even11:40
jasin!xserver11:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:40
eztkalthough I cant see it here.. lol11:40
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foobar^eztk: no match :((11:40
mwe!xserver-xorg11:40
foobar^# locate grub.conf11:40
foobar^/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10/debian/examples/kpkg_grub.conf11:40
ubotuxserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 584 kB11:40
eztkprobably means it doesn't exist I guess11:40
bdsQ_Continuum: I need a new computer and don't see myself getting a desktop11:40
jasinthat bot is not to smart11:40
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tyme-@11:40
eztkit can find xorg.conf without problems11:40
foobar^well, how do I change the grub boot order configuration then?11:40
eztk!grub11:41
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:41
mnoirfoobar - go to /boot/grub11:41
foobar^mnoir: yeah I there11:41
adam_can anyone point me in the right direction for ubuntu audio help?11:41
Q_Continuumbds: Same, I have a desktop, but its ever changing for testing hardware - and my current laptop is on its way out, going to get no lemon'ed soon11:41
mnoirlook for menu.lst11:41
jasinits grub.lst in ubuntu not grub.conf and its located in /boot/grub/11:41
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eztk!alsa11:41
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin11:41
foobar^jasin: ah cool, that's all I need to know :)11:41
mweadam_: #ubuntu is a good place to get help with that ;)11:41
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foobar^thanx, dewd11:41
BHSPitLappyAidanL, push ALT+F2, and run nm-applet using it11:41
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jasinwelcome :)11:42
ThugRenHello, Hey I did the Sudo -i and can't seem to get back into my ubuntu now.11:42
ThugRen:(11:42
jasin!grub11:42
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:42
lipe_i need some help to install QT 4.1.4 with an archive .tar.gz !!!! please !!!!11:42
adam_thx... the problem is that I don't see my lexicon omega in the options, only my onboard intel card11:42
mnoirjasin: there is no such file in a normal /boot/grub11:42
AidanLBHSPitLappy: The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources. It cannot continue.11:42
ThugRenSo how Do I fix it?11:42
AidanLI had a problem with one of the packages.11:42
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pianoboy3333What does depmod -a do?11:42
BHSPitLappyAidanL, screw the required resources! I give up!11:43
lipe_i need some help to install QT 4.1.4 with an archive .tar.gz !!!! please !!!!11:43
AidanLOk, thanks for your help anyway :)11:43
mnoirpianoboy3333: man depmod should tell you11:43
jasinthats because the file is not grub its menu.lst11:43
poraki_porallican i do a dd image to an unbuntu installation to migrate to a different computer?11:43
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mnoirjasin:  :) like i had said11:43
mwelipe_: you can't expect random .tar.gz binaries to work in ubuntu11:43
AidanLCould someone help me to get ndiswrapper working properly so that I can get my wireless working?11:43
bdsThugRen: What do you mean you 'did the sudo' I missed the first part of your question11:43
mwelipe_: you need to know what you're doing or install an ubuntu .deb11:44
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ThugRenbds, I was try to enable my root user and I didn't seem to enable it.11:44
jasin/boot/grub/menu.lst11:44
pike_poraki_poralli: you might need to edit /etc/fstab if # hard drives is diff i guess but should work ok11:44
adam_mwe: thats what I was hoping... I'll have a look at some links and see what I can do.11:44
mnoirlipe_: if all you have is a tarfile then install is running tar on it11:45
bdsThugRen: Ah, sorry I have not enabled the root user as I have been sticking to sudo :(11:45
MadpilotThugRen, you don't really need an active root user in Ubuntu... it's set up to run from sudo instead11:45
BHSPitLappyAidanL, it -might- help to log off and/or reboot at this point.  Can't promise anything, though11:45
jasinthats where it is, if its not there on your system I dont know what to tell you but thats the default location in eddgy11:45
mnoir!root | ThugRen11:45
ubotuThugRen: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:45
bdsThugRen: Did you say you cannot get into your machine now?11:45
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AidanLBHS: I will try that.11:45
lipe_mnoir: but i need some help, after the ./configure make and make install11:45
high_rogue_speedi have a question will 6.06 work on an old laptop that wont run anything better than win98?11:45
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mnoirlipe_: that happens?11:45
AidanLBHSPitLappy: Would it have made any difference of wpagui wouldn't install?11:45
s34ntyme-: is it available from a convenient repo?11:45
binarydigithigh_rogue_speed: use the livecd and find out11:46
lipe_mnoir: 'cause i need to know if i need to put some PATH ...11:46
mweadam_: people are usually helpful in here. crimsun is _the_ sound guru. I don't think he's around right now though11:46
lipe_mnoir: or something like that ...11:46
pike_high_rogue_speed: xubuntu mightbe a better idea than ubuntu(gnome)11:46
tyme-s34n:  i don't know, i just did apt-cache search for you11:46
BHSPitLappyAidanL, not really11:46
mnoirlipe_: did you use sudo for the make install?11:46
AidanLOk.11:46
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BHSPitLappyAidanL, that one wasn't tied in with the others11:46
crimsunadam_, hi11:46
lipe_mnoir: yes11:46
AidanLI see.11:46
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mnoirlipe_: so the question is?11:47
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jasinEven the ubuntu guide says its located in /boot/grub/11:47
jasinhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy11:47
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adam_crimsun! Great, some help. I am trying to get a lexicon omega working on a p4, asus motherboard (p5p800). Connected to this computer through xdmcp... any tips?11:47
lipe_mnoir: after "make install" what should I do ??11:47
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mnoirlipe_: use it  :)11:48
jasinsudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst11:48
arrenlex!compile | lipe_11:48
ubotulipe_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:48
AidanLBHSPitLappy: It didn't work. Thanks all the same.11:48
mnoir!qt11:48
ubotuQt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications11:48
adam_the computers are right next to eacothe, so I don't expect the sound to come from my laptop....11:48
jasin!compile | kernel11:49
lipe_ubotu: thx u very much !!11:49
ubotukernel: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:49
jasinlol11:49
mnoirlipe_: qt is a library - it doesn't do anything useful by itself11:49
crimsunadam_, what features aren't working? snd-usb-audio should be able to drive the -basic- inputs/outputs, but you'll need quirks added for the remaining additional ones11:49
jasin!packages11:49
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!11:49
mnoirsheesh - i do the work, ubotu get the thanks :)11:49
lipe_ mnoir: hummm11:49
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arrenlex!botsnack11:50
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coreymon77hi guys11:50
ubotuYum!11:50
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jasinEven the ubuntu guide says its located in /boot/grub/11:50
jasinhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy11:50
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pipasdoes anyone knows why koules does not RUN on PIII 1000 ATI16?11:50
mdke_hi there. What's the best way to use a signature on emails with thunderbird? I've looked around and it seems like I need to put it in a separate file??11:50
MuffYthere is one thing i can say about linux now, afte having used it for a few hours11:50
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MuffYit sure is more fun to use than windows11:50
binarydigitmdke_: this isnt the thunderbird channel11:51
mdke_binarydigit: I'm aware of that11:51
coreymon77is there a wirelss assistant program (like the one for kubuntu) for ubuntu?11:51
MuffYand you can edit anything =D11:51
mweMuffY: completely different though11:51
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mdke_binarydigit: do you deny assistance to people who use Ubuntu on the basis that this isn't the $program channel? if so, no one would get any help11:51
MuffYofc11:51
MuffYbut i like it11:51
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jasincorey, yes, gtkwifi11:51
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adam_crumsun: that's pretty much all I need right now. I have two outs and two ins by th look of things. snd_usb_audio is loaded and all, I can change in system preferences, sound to my omega and usb devices but the good old volume control in the panel doesn't find it?!?! Neither does alsamixer or alsamixer gnome. Test sounds worked, but now fail giving me this message:audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudio11:52
adam_sink: Resource busy or not available..11:52
bobbydhi11:52
arrenlex!hi11:52
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!11:52
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AidanLCould someone please help me to install my wireless USB adaptor.11:52
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jasinhttp://gtkwifi.sourceforge.net/11:52
LinTuxMy screen res in Kubuntu has suddenly gone to 640x480 and it wont let me change it any ideas?11:52
crimsunadam_, ``asoundconf list'' in a Terminal11:52
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arrenlex!fixres | LinTux11:52
ubotuLinTux: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:52
Slart!codecs11:52
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:52
mweMuffY: The biggest downsid IMO is most commercial software/hardware vendors don't give a damn about linux11:52
binarydigitmdke_: you are asking a program specific question , you would proably have better luck in a place that is geared towards it, its not like you are asking a general ubuntu question11:52
binarydigitbut shoot yourself11:53
arrenlex!coc | binarydigit11:53
ubotubinarydigit: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/11:53
poraki_poralliJoder11:53
bobbydI seem to have screwed something up with my apt setup. when I do "apt-cache search myth" on edgy with all repos. enabled and updated I don't see mythtv11:53
pike_LinTux: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  then once done alt-ctrl-bkspace11:53
poraki_poralliespero q dd le de caa...11:53
mwe!es11:53
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.11:53
MuffYmwe: of course they don't it's quite hard to actually sell anything proprietary (did i spell that right) for linux11:53
bobbydhow could I go about fixing this?11:53
poraki_porallies q tengo kemao el cargador de mi antiguo portatil xD11:53
mdke_binarydigit: charming. This is a help channel for users of Ubuntu, let's hope someone else uses thunderbird here11:53
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MuffYespecially if you're a small company11:53
poraki_porallilo tengo q bajar a cargar al coche si no me da tiempo en lo q le dura a bateria...11:53
adam_crimsun : there I see my omega...11:53
arrenlex!mythtv | bobbyd11:53
ubotubobbyd: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV11:53
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crimsunadam_, I need the output from that command11:54
mweMuffY: I know. it's not because of the OS though. it's because linux is not so common11:54
adam_ICH5, Omega, UART11:54
jasin !mythtv | bobbyd11:54
ubotubobbyd: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV11:54
MuffYalso true11:54
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MuffYbut what about the GNU license things11:54
jasin!gnu11:54
ubotuG(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org11:55
waterbear!gpl11:55
ubotugpl is the GNU General Public License. See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html11:55
mweMuffY: you can sell closed source commercial software for linux if you like11:55
jasinlol11:55
crimsunadam_, ``grep defaults.pcm.card ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf''11:55
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tyme-!xgl11:55
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems11:55
arrenlexUbotu is getting a workout today.11:55
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jasinthat bot is busy tonight lol11:55
MuffYi know, but for some reason most people get the free software11:55
MuffYi wonder why11:55
binarydigitarrenlex: has to get in shape for the new year11:55
ikoniaI did an update on my laptop from 6.10 to Edgy. After that update my screen savers don't kick in and my "hover" preview of say an audio file doesn't work11:55
MuffY;)11:56
ikoniais this a common thing11:56
sharp15ok. i'm confused.  i know ubuntu is gnome based, but i installed kde.  is there a reason that would mess with sshd and proftpd?11:56
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mweMuffY: heh11:56
BHSPitLappyAidanL, oh, sorry to hear that.  I didn't even realize it was USB11:56
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AidanLYeah it is...11:56
pipashigh rogue use alternate cd and then use ice, it will run great11:56
arrenlexsharp15: No.11:56
Tannfritsch: network manager won't install11:56
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pike_bobbyd: package: mythtv is in multiverse repo11:56
mnoirsharp15: no11:56
mweMuffY: maybe I'd by something if anything was available ;)11:56
hjmillshow do i list the size of all the images in a folder in a list?11:56
AidanLI am guessing it is a bad thing.11:56
adam_!defaults.pcm.card Omega11:56
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BHSPitLappyAidanL, type "ifconfig" in a  terminal11:56
mnoirsharp15: and ubuntu is debian based, using the gnome window manager, among others :)11:56
BHSPitLappyAidanL, let's see if ndiswrapper created any interfaces for it11:57
MuffYmwe: i mean, if you're just a desktop user there's not really a point in buying things that might be a bit better than the free ones, but which new features you're not going to use anyway11:57
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jasinmwe, what you shoping for? hehe11:57
crimsunadam_, and is ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav'' audible?11:57
sharp15mnoir: that's what i meant.11:57
cntbwhere in kUbuntu can I tune current color depth ?11:57
bdsAbout USD $200011:57
mweMuffY: I use linux only for my laptop but I keep windows on the desktop PC so I can play my favorite games11:57
mnoirsharp15: so what is sshd doing (or not) :}11:57
binarydigithjmills: just the size or would using 'ls -la' do?11:57
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_Snatch_can anybody help Tann to connect by wireless11:57
Slarthjmills: take some imagemagick.. add some bash magic and you're done =)11:57
LinTuxUbotu: could you give me the command again to put into console as my system crashed11:57
AidanLBHSPitLappy: There is eth0 and some writing and Lo with some writing. There are no bytes on the eth0 however there is a small amount of packets and bytes.11:57
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mweMuffY: there is no good alternative for my favorite games. if you're satisfied with frozen-bubble you'll be ok though11:58
sharp15mnoir: failing before connection attempt.  may have something to do with xinetd.11:58
AidanLThere is a small amount of packets and bytes on the Lo one - BHSPITLAPPY11:58
BHSPitLappyAidanL, try "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" and then try again11:58
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pike_cntb: for kde questions might get better answers '/join kubuntu' there11:58
MuffYmwe: yeah, i read gaming and linux don't go together (damn game developers), except if you have linux on your xbox :P11:58
Slarthjmills: there are probably easier ways though.. but I'm guessing that will work11:58
mnoirsharp15: maybe - log messages?11:58
mweMuffY: right11:58
Tann_Snatch_: fritsch was helping me11:58
_Snatch_can anybody help Tann to connect by wireless11:58
BHSPitLappyAidanL, eth0 is probably your ethernet, and lo is just loopback- your machine11:58
AidanLBHSPitLappy: Fatal Error11:58
AidanLI see.11:58
mnoirsharp15: sshd is usually rock solid11:58
adam_aplay: main:547: problem opening sound, resource or device busy11:58
mweMuffY: a few games work11:58
_Snatch_good11:58
MuffYmwe: i'm not really a gamer anyway, and i've got enough entertainment with my Wii anyway ;)11:58
kyncani!ubotu | LinTux11:58
ubotuLinTux: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:58
TannHELP11:58
sharp15mnoir: it's not being run by xinetd, but inetd has thrown a huge number of errors.11:58
jasinYou can game on linux11:58
crimsunadam_, right, so you do need a quirk11:58
jasinsupertux rocks :p11:59
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adam_crimsun, doing some transalting from swedish on those errors---11:59
hjmillsbinarydigit: sorry - i meant the width and height11:59
binarydigit!fixres | LinTux11:59
ubotuLinTux: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:59
mnoirsharp15: oic :(11:59
TannHELP11:59
adam_whats a quirk?11:59
LinTuxmy video has changed to 640x480 in Kubuntu and it will not let me change it, any ideas11:59
hjmillsSlart: any idea what part of imagemagic?11:59
crimsunadam_, please file a bug against linux-source-2.6.17, attaching the output from ``lsusb -v''11:59
arrenlexLinTux: You were answred.11:59
mweMuffY: then you wont miss anything. I'm not much of a gamer either except for a week a few times a year11:59
arrenlexanswered **11:59
jasin!fixres | LinTux11:59
ubotuLinTux: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:59
_Snatch_Tann: try wlan0 connection11:59
LinTuxI know I had a system crash, sorry m811:59
crimsunadam_, the Omega is not supported in its current configuration; it'll need to be added to the source code.11:59
jasin!fixres | LinTux11:59
bobbydpike_: I have multiverse enabled, but it doesn't show up :(11:59
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Tannit isn't setup yet11:59
MuffYmwe: explain? you get a game and play it for a week straight until you've beat it?12:00
crimsunadam_, after you've filed the bug, please tell me the bug #12:00
Slarthjmills: I'm looking.. I'll give it a try.. see if I can make it work.. you wanted a list with "filename xsize ysize" or something like that?12:00
adam_crimsun: sorry about the french.....BUGGER12:00
Tann_Snatch_: how do i try wlan0?12:00
jasinmwe is a hard core gammer :p12:00
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LinTuxjasin tell me what to put in console to try fixres12:00
MuffYhe is?12:00
pike_bobbyd: you said 'sudo apt-get update' showed no errors?12:00
AidanLBHSPitLappy: When I type sudo modprobe ndiswrapper the fatal error I receive is : /lib/modules/2.6.17.10-generic/kernel/drivers/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko : invalid argument.12:00
sharp15mnoir: either way. i can't find error messages from either sshd or proftpd.  both init scripts print "Starting service   [fail] "12:00
_Snatch_dunno12:00
MuffYi challenge him for a game of:....12:00
mweMuffY: something like that. for example I had a week I didn't know what to do and played hitman bloddmoney12:00
MuffYPONG!12:00
_Snatch_look for a wireless assistant12:00
arrenlexLinTux: Go to http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto and follow the guide.12:00
MuffY|   .12:01
adam_ok, I'll get to that, but in the meantime, maybe you could help me out with my onboard card then.....?12:01
mwehe12:01
MuffYpong12:01
mweyeah ;)12:01
jasinlintux, To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:01
mnoirsharp15: possible problem in the conf file - it sounds like to me12:01
TannI don't have it12:01
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