[12:00] <TimTurnip> haha
[12:01] <TimTurnip> you're referring to the MS payoff, i assume?
[12:02] <con-man> I just installed wine from source
[12:02] <con-man> bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory
[12:02] <checkmate> what do i use to play .pls radio streams?
[12:02] <con-man> whats wrong
[12:02] <joink> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62//
[12:02] <crimsun> con-man, if you install from source, it's likely /usr/local/bin/wine
[12:02] <crimsun> con-man, ``which wine''
[12:02] <bruenig> or /opt/wine
[12:02] <Enverex> Just type "wine"
[12:02] <con-man> crimsun: ?
[12:02] <bruenig> joink, that link is wrong
[12:02] <con-man> crimsun: 0.9.28
[12:03] <sourceman> happy new year from poland !
[12:03] <bruenig> joink, or is the last / not supposed to be there
[12:03] <eyalw> hi, I'm in crisis, I'm running beryl, suddently my CPU usage skyrockets, its the Xgl thread which is suddenly using 99% CPU. how can i stop it? i tries killall, it didnt stop it
[12:03] <joink> again http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62/
[12:03] <con-man> I just installed wine from source
[12:03] <con-man> bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory
[12:03] <con-man> whats wrong
[12:03] <bruenig> joink, do what it says, apt-get -f install
[12:04] <Solarion> con-man: /usr/local/bin/wine?
[12:04] <joink> i dot and tryes to install it but at last is broke
[12:04] <eyalw> ??
[12:04] <con-man> Solarion: nope
[12:04] <bruenig> joink, what language are you?
[12:04] <con-man> Solarion: whats the fix
[12:04] <Solarion> con-man: what did you configure it to use?
[12:04] <Enverex> Is there any way to install Ubuntu from inside another Linux environment? (like from a console or something)
[12:04] <con-man> Solarion: what do you mean
[12:04] <bruenig> !es | joink
[12:04] <ubotu> joink: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:05] <superkirbyartist> Direct rendering is off :( can someone help me turn it on?
[12:05] <DigitalNinja> Can someone tell me what happened to Mplayer? I'm installing a new system and all I see is kmplayer
[12:05] <Solarion> generally, if you're building a program from source, it will default to /usr/local, but you can change it with the configure script
[12:05] <bruenig> DigitalNinja, it is still there
[12:05] <bruenig> !info mplayer
[12:05] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3461 kB, installed size 8624 kB
[12:05] <Siv0x> con-man, you sure its not /usr/bin/.wine ?
[12:05] <bruenig> DigitalNinja, you must not have multiverse
[12:05] <ozzloy> i have a ipw3945 wireless card, seems detected fine, but for some reason i can't connect wirelessly.  someone want to help me troubleshoot?
[12:05] <con-man> im sure
[12:05] <DigitalNinja> bruening: hold on
[12:05] <asterias> Happy new year!!!
[12:05] <derFlo> happy new year :) (from germany)
[12:05] <bruenig> con-man, run winecfg
[12:05] <DigitalNinja> bruening: Let me check
[12:05] <TimTurnip> man, that bot is pretty impressive
[12:06] <con-man> there is a dir, /usr/local/bin/wine
[12:06] <superkirbyartist> Anyone can help me with direct rendering please?  I hear we're talking about Wine; can someone help me with Sonic Riders?
[12:06] <joink> bruening i pasted again http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63/
[12:06] <tannerld> can anyone help me and figure out why glxgears is not working along with any 3d games on my ati and fglrx?
[12:06] <ozzloy> happy new year asterias derFlo
[12:06] <crimsun> con-man, that shouldn't be a dir but an executable, i.e., the one you're looking for
[12:06] <ccidral> hooray!! it worked! vlc is playing video files in my ubuntu 64 =)
[12:06] <Crashzor> for al the people in europe ( dutch/german time zone ) happy nieuw year :P rest of the world just wait :P (amsg)
[12:06] <bruenig> is
[12:06] <con-man> crimsun: yes
[12:06] <con-man> crimsun: it is
[12:06] <joink> am gonna translate
[12:07] <bruenig> !es
[12:07] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:07] <bruenig> joink, what not go to your language's channel, are they not helpful
[12:07] <bruenig> why*
[12:07] <TimTurnip> haha
[12:07] <TimTurnip> bruenig: i was about to ask what language that was :P
[12:07] <rambo3> happy new year ubuntuers !
[12:07] <con-man> crimsun: whats the fix
[12:07] <superkirbyartist> Direct rendering?  Help?  Please?
[12:08] <bruenig> con-man, what happens when you do, winecfg in the terminal
[12:08] <arte_> happy nu year everyone!
[12:08] <eyalw_> how can i stop Xgl? its started using 99% CPU
[12:08] <con-man> it opens up the wine console
[12:08] <joink> bruening http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64/
[12:08] <bruenig> #ubuntu-xgl
[12:08] <con-man> with the tabs
[12:08] <arte_> lets start nu year in linux coz windows totaly sucks!
[12:09] <joink> love ubuntu
[12:09] <eyalw_> someone? how can i stop Xgl? its started using 99% CPU
[12:09] <TimTurnip> heh
[12:09] <Zambezi> arte_, Nice. You give it time in the beging.
[12:09] <con-man> bruenig: winecfg loads the wine options window
[12:09] <arte_> dont use it
[12:09] <joink> happy new day from colombia
[12:09] <bruenig> con-man, ok, then it should all be good, wine whatever.exe, what does that do
[12:09] <tyme_> does ubuntu 6.10 support wireless cards out of the box?
[12:09] <PHoeNiGoRe> Happy new for gmt+1 ppl
[12:09] <arte_> just use ubuntu no fuckin extra
[12:09] <eyalw_> someone? how can i stop Xgl? its started using 99% CPU!!!!
[12:10] <con-man> bruenig: bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory
[12:10] <tyme_> kill it
[12:10] <bruenig> eyalw, #ubuntu-xgl
[12:10] <eyalw_> how?
[12:10] <un_operateur> ubuntu new year!!
[12:10] <joink> bruening sorry i pastend again http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64/
[12:10] <tyme_> eyalw_ gnome-xgl-settings
[12:10] <eyalw_> killall dosent work
[12:10] <arte_> killall xgl in terminal
[12:10] <tyme_> and theres another xgl-switch command
[12:10] <tyme_> gnome-xgl-switch?
[12:10] <bruenig> con-man, is /usr/local/bin not in your PATH?
[12:10] <tyme_> not sure.
[12:10] <ozzloy> never mind, i figured it out
[12:10] <DigitalNinja> bruening: Thanks! That was it.
[12:10] <ozzloy> thanks anyways though
[12:10] <tyme_> gnome-xgl-switch --disable-xgl
[12:10] <bruenig> just do ps -A, figure out what the PID is, then do kill -i PID
[12:10] <eyalw_> i tried killall Xgl, i wont be stopped
[12:10] <PHoeNiGoRe> Happy new year for gmt+1 ppl
[12:10] <bruenig> kill -9*
[12:11] <tyme_> gnome-xgl-switch --disable-xgl then restart your xserver
[12:11] <sean> hi, total new user to Ubuntu here - anyone know how to get my screen res up to lovely 1920x1200?
[12:11] <eyalw_> i did kill -i PID too
[12:11] <un_operateur> tyme_, tab test it -- at your terminal -- gnome-xgl<TAB>  -- or better -- locate xgl | grep -i bin
[12:11] <bruenig> !fixres | sean
[12:11] <ubotu> sean: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:11] <arte_> happy u too m8
[12:11] <tyme_> eyalw_,  read up
[12:11] <con-man> bruenig: bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory
[12:11] <arte_> find out real kill xgl cmd cn stop it
[12:11] <TimTurnip> man, i love that bot
[12:11] <bruenig> con-man, well try this, /usr/local/bin/wine whatever.exe
[12:12] <arte_> wait ..
[12:12] <bruenig> con-man, I don't understand why you compiled it, there is a bleeding edge wine repo
[12:12] <arte_> do u use beryl ?
[12:12] <con-man> bruenig: works
[12:12] <bruenig> con-man, well just do that from now on then
[12:12] <eyalw_> yes
[12:12] <con-man> bruenig: can I fix it though?
[12:12] <arte_> one moment
[12:12] <bruenig> con-man, if open up /etc/environment, make sure that in the PATH you have /usr/local/bin
[12:12] <bruenig> if you*
[12:13] <arte_> go to synaptic n unistall itv fuck out
[12:13] <bruenig> !language
[12:13] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:13] <joink> am gonna die
[12:13] <joink> i cant install anything
[12:13] <PriceChild> joink: error?
[12:13] <joink> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64/
[12:13] <eyalw_> ...?
[12:14] <bruenig> joink, you realize that is all one one line
[12:14] <arte_> ubotu .. iot dead ghost .. lets strt
[12:14] <arte_> fantastic ..
[12:14] <arte_> it talks
[12:14] <tyme_> eyalw_,  get it fixed?
[12:14] <joink> ? i dont understand u bruening
[12:14] <arte_>  cut my balls
[12:14] <eyalw_> tyme_: how?
[12:14] <tyme_> ..gnome-xgl-switch --disable-xgl restart
[12:14] <bruenig> joink, that url you are sending us has the output all on one line
[12:15] <eyalw_> tyme_: i'm new in this
[12:15] <tyme_> then restart*
[12:15] <arte_> exactly .. how?
[12:15] <bruenig> joink, very hard to read like that
[12:15] <arte_> :)
[12:15] <tyme_> type gnome-xgl-switch --disable-xgl in command line
[12:15] <tyme_> make sure youre root
[12:15] <tannerld> can anyone help me and figure out why glxgears is not working along with any 3d games on my ati and fglrx?
[12:15] <tyme_> then type rcxdm restart
[12:15] <arte_> unninstall it it sucks xgl sucksw dfo u need extra problems ?
[12:15] <tyme_> im running xgl with no problems
[12:16] <un_operateur> !language | arte_
[12:16] <ubotu> arte_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:16] <joink> works at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/66/
[12:17] <marcus> hi all quick noob question. my openoffice wordproc dosent activate the auto spellcheck. any ideas?
[12:17] <joink> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/66/
[12:17] <bruenig> joink, it is still unreadable
[12:17] <bruenig> joink, one short line and then one very long line
[12:17] <arte_> ubotu u fuckin bot ... i love u
[12:17] <arte_> :)
[12:18] <Infeliz> unraedable
[12:18] <Infeliz> too drunk
[12:18] <tyme_> goto bed
[12:18] <tyme_> bye.
[12:18] <Jordan_U> Hybernate does not work for me.
[12:18] <arte_> ubotu im friendly al most i can
[12:18] <ubotu> im: mail/news handling commands and Perl modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:148-5 (edgy), package size 310 kB, installed size 1260 kB
[12:18] <Infeliz> no way
[12:18] <tyme_> arte_, ubotu is a BOT
[12:18] <tyme_> !bot
[12:18] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:18] <Infeliz> hah
[12:18] <Infeliz> a
[12:18] <Infeliz> h
[12:18] <Infeliz> a
[12:18] <arte_> ppl why dont u celebrate nu year ?
[12:19] <x-r00t-x> !java-dev
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <arte_> u r crazy ..
[12:19] <Infeliz> iam celebrating it in IRC
[12:19] <Infeliz> .ddddddddddd
[12:19] <tyme_> ..but why?
[12:19] <Jordan_U> arte_: Why aren't you?
[12:19] <MasterShrek> !java-devel
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java-devel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <Infeliz> bcause
[12:19] <tyme_> celibrating online in irc is pretty sad
[12:19] <arte_> am in
[12:19] <tyme_> depressing even.
[12:19] <x-r00t-x> hey tell me how do install java-dev?
[12:19] <arte_> but i interestedd about u
[12:19] <dark_light> tyme_, yeah, but there are things more depressive
[12:20] <bruenig> celebrating that an arbitrarily set division of time has elapsed is very odd indeed
[12:20] <joink> this is better sorry http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/67/
[12:20] <MasterShrek> x-r00t-x look at synaptic
[12:20] <Infeliz> friends breaked down whit me
[12:20] <arte_> its 1 am in my country all celebrating
[12:20] <dark_light> and, well, instead, i try to negate any influence of new year in my life
[12:20] <dark_light> =)
[12:20] <tyme_> if you look at it that way, everything's odd.
[12:20] <arte_> am i in eu ?
[12:20] <un_operateur> x-r00t-x, java-dev?? don't think there is such a package
[12:20] <crimsun> tyme_, no sadder/more depressing than commenting about how sad/depressing it is on irc
[12:20] <joink> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/67/
[12:20] <x-r00t-x> yes there is
[12:21] <tyme_> anyway, going to install ubuntu for the first time. not sure if it will detect my wireless card out of the box
[12:21] <arte_> root can wait ..
[12:21] <bruenig> joink, I can't help you
[12:21] <Jordan_U> !info java-dev
[12:21] <joink> thanks
[12:21] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur, its for javac command :)
[12:21] <ubotu> Package java-dev does not exist in any distro I know
[12:21] <dark_light> btw, i wish to your a year quite opposite to your nick, Infeliz!
[12:21] <arte_> ubuntu is co0l
[12:21] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur, java jdk
[12:21] <tyme_> !info ipw2200
[12:21] <bruenig> what are you java-dev people looking for
[12:21] <un_operateur> x-r00t-x, ha ha-- thats the JDK ..not java-dev :)
[12:21] <ubotu> Package ipw2200 does not exist in any distro I know
[12:21] <joink> somebody help i cant install nothing
[12:21] <Jordan_U> x-r00t-x: That would be the JDK
[12:21] <dark_light> (what a amusing nick)
[12:21] <arte_> but whatever
[12:21] <bruenig> !info sun-java5-jdk
[12:21] <crimsun> tyme_, ipw2200 is supported just fine.
[12:21] <ubotu> sun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 4918 kB, installed size 11412 kB
[12:21] <x-r00t-x> oh tnx
[12:21] <un_operateur> !sun-java5-jdk
[12:21] <Music_Shuffle> joink, you can't install NOTHING? Or you can't install ANYTHING/
[12:21] <tyme_> on suse i had to download the drivers from sf to get it working
[12:22] <Music_Shuffle> Huge difference there, I assure you.
[12:22] <tyme_> (through ethernet)
[12:22] <arte_> 'it wud be cool at january 2nd\
[12:22] <joink> yeah i cant install anything
[12:22] <Music_Shuffle> Lol
[12:22] <wikityler> hello...I'm trying to add a printer via the cups web page, but i get asked for a user name and password. I tried my user name and password for the admin account, but it doesn't work. what's the beef?
[12:22] <Music_Shuffle> Ok. What's the issue?
[12:22] <joink> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/67/
[12:22] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur, is it have javac command?
[12:22] <MasterShrek> wikityler try using root
[12:22] <Jordan_U> x-r00t-x: Yes
[12:22] <x-r00t-x> tnx :D
[12:22] <ccidral> any news about 64 bit version of Adobe Flash mozilla plugin?
 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/67/
[12:22] <Music_Shuffle> Err, this happens whenever you try to install -anything-?
[12:22] <bruenig> ccidral, yeah, they aren't ever going to make one
[12:23] <arte_> u r computer fun u have no any celebrating no chrisdtmas nop nu year whats goin on ?
[12:23] <ccidral> :(
[12:23] <joink> yep
[12:23] <ccidral> that's sad
[12:23] <bruenig> because they really don't care about linux users, let alone the minority 64 biters
[12:23] <arte_> maniacs
[12:23] <Gosha> Happy new year ! ( late, but who cares :D )
[12:23] <arte_> have no words tro describe ..
[12:23] <Jordan_U> arte_: And trolling IRC on new years is less pathetic?
[12:23] <ryan> can anyone help me?
[12:23] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur,
[12:24] <x-r00t-x> [~]  ->> $ sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[12:24] <x-r00t-x> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:24] <x-r00t-x> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:24] <wikityler> MasterShrek: root doesn't work
[12:24] <bruenig> x-r00t-x, close synaptic
[12:24] <dark_light> Gosha, not here : )
[12:24] <bruenig> ryan, you haven't asked a question
[12:24] <un_operateur> x-r00t-x, have you not learnt about the pastebin? :|
[12:24] <arte_> in my opinion nu yrs is very important
[12:24] <ryan> ok
[12:24] <x-r00t-x> oopse
[12:24] <ryan> so I'm playing a game
[12:24] <x-r00t-x> yeah sorry
[12:24] <PriceChild> !offtopic | arte_
[12:24] <ubotu> arte_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:24] <Music_Shuffle> !offtopic | arte
[12:24] <ubotu> arte: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:24] <Music_Shuffle> I WIN!
[12:24] <GottferDamnt> Happy new year from paris !
[12:24] <ryan> I switched to tty1 so I could get some work done when I wasn't playing
[12:24] <arte_> its no reasons to sit on mopmnbitor
[12:24] <Magusknight> where can i find SiS drivers?
[12:24] <PriceChild> Music_Shuffle: i was quicker on my screen ;)
[12:24] <Music_Shuffle> Errr...curses. You won PriceChild :(
[12:24] <bruenig> on my screen I have PriceChild beating you Music_Shuffle
[12:24] <un_operateur> x-r00t-x, close down all other APT programs and try again
[12:24] <arte_> \monitor i mean
[12:24] <Music_Shuffle> I know. But in my head I WIN!
[12:24] <Music_Shuffle> :P
[12:25] <ryan> but every time, just after i login, the game exists back to fluxbox
[12:25] <ryan> and the mouse doesn't work 'till I restart the xserver
[12:25] <Music_Shuffle> arte_, then get outa here. Some people need help opening the new year with Ubuntu.
[12:25] <arte_> ok i too drunk to talk sorry
[12:25] <ryan> what's wrong and how may I fix it?
[12:25] <arte_> but
[12:25] <arte_> i cud help
[12:25] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur, yeah its working . its will take 2 hour+ to download . at 3/4 kbps
[12:25] <ryan> brb
[12:25] <ryan> testing it again
[12:25] <arte_> music
[12:25] <bruenig> ryan, is there any reason why you can't use a terminal
[12:25] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur, i mean 32 kbps
[12:25] <arte_> i cud help
[12:25] <joink> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/67/
[12:25] <x-r00t-x> lol
[12:25] <arte_> iof it needs
[12:25] <Music_Shuffle> Uhh. I can barely understand you as is. >.>
[12:26] <un_operateur> x-r00t-x, you can always install GCJ instead (smaller packages)
[12:26] <arte_> u dont understand
[12:26] <ryan> ok, I can open two xservers
[12:26] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur, gcj? what is that?
[12:26] <ryan> that'll work for now
[12:26] <un_operateur> !info gcj
[12:26] <ubotu> gcj: The GNU Java compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.1-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 48 kB
[12:26] <arte_> u canbt mess ce;ebrate with help
[12:27] <bruenig> arte_, go help the people in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:27] <Music_Shuffle> ...there needs to be a rule against drunkenly being in a support channel :P
[12:27] <IndyGunFreak> Music_Shuffle, lol
[12:27] <arte_> u can't mess celebrate with help on computer thing
[12:27] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur, lol its 1 mb bigger than jdk
[12:27] <bruenig> arte_ isn't drunk, he is playing it up too much
[12:27] <IndyGunFreak> Music_Shuffle, refer all drunks to ubuntu-offtopic
[12:27] <arte_> ok ill help ppl tomorow
[12:27] <IndyGunFreak> we like them
[12:27] <PriceChild> arte_: #ubuntu-newyears please
[12:27] <arte_> ur rite im too drunk
[12:28] <Music_Shuffle> arte_, please do return to helping tomorrow.
[12:28] <un_operateur> x-r00t-x, errm, I remember it being about 50MiB less when i installed it
[12:28] <arte_> cy guys
[12:28] <Music_Shuffle> Or at least after you sleep it off.
[12:28] <Music_Shuffle> Cya.
[12:28] <joink> nobody can
[12:28] <joink> jejeje
[12:28] <joink> is ok
[12:28] <arte_> dont remember nu year is very important!
[12:28] <bruenig> un_operateur, for it to be 50 MB less, it would have to -39 MB
[12:28] <arte_> cheers
[12:28] <joink> new year dont exist
[12:28] <arte_> :)
[12:29] <joink> bye
[12:29] <ccidral> cheers
[12:29] <un_operateur> bruenig, eh?
[12:29] <arte_> joink u r jerk
[12:29] <PriceChild> argh... #freenode-newyears sorry
[12:29] <Infeliz> new year is fucked up
[12:29] <arte_> c y
[12:29] <Music_Shuffle> !language
[12:29] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:29] <arte_> mAybe if u r depressd
[12:29] <bruenig>  /ignore *!*@89.116.27.189
[12:29] <Infeliz>  !langue
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about langue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <joink> very unfriendly friends
[12:29] <konam> see you all
[12:29] <IndyGunFreak> !sensitive | Music_Shuffle
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sensitive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <hendrickvp> ademan, do you know if GD2 toolkit is in ubuntu?
[12:29] <Music_Shuffle> ;)
[12:29] <konam> and a happy NYE
[12:29] <Music_Shuffle> IndyGunFreak, its interfering with him leaving! :P
[12:30] <Infeliz> !shutup!
[12:30] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shutup! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <joink> jerk your mother semi arte
[12:30] <arte_> go to neartest psychiatr
[12:30] <Music_Shuffle> ...
[12:30] <ccidral> the coolest part of the new year time is the beverages
[12:30] <Infeliz> --
[12:30] <arte_> c y
[12:30] <ccidral> are*
[12:30] <hendrickvp> Does anyone know if GD2 is in Ubuntu Server?
[12:30] <ccidral> 2 hours and a half for new year... time to start drinking beer
[12:30] <IndyGunFreak> GD2?
[12:30] <un_operateur> hendrickvp, GD2 as in GD, the graphics toolkit?
[12:30] <Music_Shuffle> LjL, in 07, are yeh?
[12:31] <hendrickvp> yeah
[12:31] <Infeliz> ccidral: where
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> I don't know what GD1 is, ..lol
[12:31] <Infeliz> ccidral: where
[12:31] <ccidral> I'm from Brazil
[12:31] <Infeliz> ccidral: where
[12:31] <hendrickvp> un_operateur: is the an apt-get for it?
[12:31] <Infeliz> ok
[12:31] <un_operateur> hendrickvp, errm,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gd2&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[12:31] <ccidral> and you?
[12:31] <Infeliz> finland
[12:32] <gamerchad> hi everyone!  I just managed to get dual monitors sorta working, but I have this problem where gnome panel crashes.  It says that it detects another instance of itself and then exits.  Anyone know what's up with that?
[12:32] <ccidral> cheers... let's drink
[12:32] <viller> port forwarding=NAT mapping?
[12:32] <un_operateur> hendrickvp, maybe this one -- libgd2-xpm
[12:33] <Aar0n444> Hi
[12:33] <un_operateur> viller, are you asking if they are the same?
[12:33] <Music_Shuffle> !hi | Aar0n444
[12:33] <ubotu> Aar0n444: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:33] <viller> un_operateur: yes
[12:33] <hendrickvp> un_operateur: I'm looking at it
[12:34] <un_operateur> viller, well, yes, it's a uni-directional NApT -- network address/port translation
[12:34] <Aar0n444> I know I need a command to boot ubuntu on my laptop, and I used to have it working, along with my WiFi card too. But now, I try one or two commands and the WiFi card won't work. What commands could I try to boot?
[12:34] <viller> un_operateur: so when I "map" I am forwarding ports as they call it?
[12:35] <hendrickvp> un_operateur: so i would just download and install into the corresponding files...?
[12:35] <ap0cq> hi
[12:35] <un_operateur> viller, map is a very loose term, isn't it? depends on what you mean, really
[12:35] <Grok_> how would i find out what the $arch (Kn) be if the cpu is listed as "Mobile AMD Athlon XP-M"?
[12:35] <un_operateur> hendrickvp, if you apt-get install libgd2-xpm, you should have everything you need
[12:35] <viller> un_operateur: when I'm talking about NAT commands
[12:36] <hendrickvp> oh.... easy enough
[12:36] <crimsun> Grok_, uname -m
[12:36] <Grok_> crimsun, thank you very much
[12:36] <minerale> when I'm doing a ./configure on a program that requires the perl libraries, how would one provide the path to the perl libraries?
[12:36] <hendrickvp> sorry, I did not know what I was really looking at.
[12:37] <Jordan_U> Hybernate does not work for me
[12:37] <Keeguon> hey I'm trying to compile fleow plugin for Banshee but it says "No package 'tao-opengl' found" what can I do
[12:37] <un_operateur> viller, if you implement NAT, you are not portforwarding because NAT operates with IP/Network Addresses .. but when you port-forward, you need to have a "NAT" map for the outside port to be directed to an inside address, so NAT is necessary for port-forwarding but not vice-versa
[12:38] <ap0cq> having trouble getting wlan0 to come up with a Belkin desktop card F5D7001, tutorials not working
[12:39] <un_operateur> minerale, I think you can modify the PERL5LIB environmental variable
[12:39] <sean> i'm having a bit of bother fixing my screen resolution above 1024x768, the first part of the tutorial at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto isn't working for me
[12:39] <imbecile> what is the name of the firewall whos icon look like a biohazard symbol?
[12:39] <ap0cq> can mount driver with indiswrapper and get "driver present, hardware present " but i dont detect wlan0 after that
[12:39] <un_operateur> minerale, do you want to specify new paths to a perl program -- or determine what directories the perl libs exist in?
[12:40] <sean> how do i tell ubuntu to auto detect my video card?
[12:41] <x-r00t-x> i installed php with php package . and how do install sockets module?
[12:41] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur, can you give me idea about it?
[12:41] <oidia> sean: what card is it?
[12:42] <un_operateur> minerale, I think this command is what you need -  perl -le 'print for @INC'
[12:42] <protocol1> is there a way to force install a deb?
[12:42] <protocol1> via console
[12:42] <oidia> seanj: the most common are found att www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:42] <un_operateur> x-r00t-x, sockets module? errm, to do what kinds of stuff?
[12:42] <oidia> hapy new year btw
[12:42] <ap0cq> anyone here have the same problem that can help me?
[12:43] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur, run php scripts from terminal
[12:43] <base_16> protocol1: dpkg -i --force-all?
[12:43] <Noob> what is this theme http://www.tuxresources.org/blog/winlin/Linux/menu-iniciar.jpg ?
[12:43] <un_operateur> x-r00t-x, if you want to run php scripts from the CLI, you need the php-cli package
[12:43] <legal_confusion> I seem to be getting my *** kicked on trying to get my xfx 7900GT to show up as a dual head?
[12:43] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur, what is cli?
[12:44] <Grok_> command line interface
[12:45] <un_operateur> x-r00t-x, that was php5-cli .. my bad
[12:45] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur, can you tell me where is the php.ini located at ?
[12:45] <x-r00t-x> no prob un_operateur
[12:45] <un_operateur> x-r00t-x, locate php.ini :)
[12:46] <x-r00t-x> heh tnx un_operateur
[12:46] <atoma> anyone know of a good place to learn how install a SMP kernal? howto docs etc... (kernal swapping virgin here, and its a little spooky)
[12:47] <un_operateur> atoma, is your CPU a SMP processor tho? no point otherwise
[12:47] <Jordan_U> atoma: The generic kernel has smp support
[12:47] <base_16> Jordan_U: only if it's compiled in
[12:47] <Jordan_U> base_16: It is
[12:47] <atoma> yea...4cpu server ATM... P3 era Xens....
[12:47] <Jordan_U> ( I am talking about the ubuntu "generic" kernel )
[12:48] <elyon> MasterShrek - just wanted to let you know that installing the older ATI drivers fixed the problem.  Thanks again for your help!
[12:48] <base_16> Jordan_U: that depends on if he's talking about the default ubuntu one or if he's compiling from vanilla
[12:48] <base_16> though i do believe SMP is checked on by default these days
[12:48] <MasterShrek> np elyon
[12:49] <Jordan_U> Anybody have any ideas for troubleshooting hybernation problems
[12:49] <Jordan_U> ?
[12:49] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur,
[12:49] <x-r00t-x>  have time to help at the moment, sorry. My server requires my immediate attention.
[12:49] <crimsun> Jordan_U, more specifically?
[12:49] <x-r00t-x> oops
[12:49] <x-r00t-x> i am sorry for that
[12:49] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur, bash: php: command not found
[12:49] <un_operateur> x-r00t-x, did you install php5-cli ?
[12:50] <x-r00t-x> nope :-S
[12:50] <Jordan_U> crimsun: I just get a blinking white cursor and I have to switch to a tty and shut down when I try to hybernate from gnome
[12:50] <x-r00t-x> i got it now :P
[12:50] <un_operateur> x-r00t-x, duhh
[12:50] <un_operateur> :))
[12:50] <x-r00t-x> sorry :P
[12:50] <MasterShrek> Jordan_U acpi is still not perfected, i dont think ive ever had a box actually work with hibernate and such
[12:50] <Jordan_U> crimsun: I used to get an error that I did not have enough memory
[12:51] <atoma> Jordan_U: Its the stock ubuntu kernel
[12:51] <crimsun> Jordan_U, have you checked if your specific laptop has known issues suspending to disk with the version of Ubuntu you're using?
[12:51] <Jordan_U> MasterShrek: It worked when I first innstalled
[12:51] <alex_> man... I just install ubuntu on my laptop with aiglx and beryl
[12:51] <MasterShrek> did u upgrade?
[12:51] <alex_> it's awesome.
[12:51] <Jordan_U> atoma: Yes
[12:51] <x-r00t-x> EID MUBARAK EVERYONE and HAPPY NEW YEAR . i gotta go sleep its 5:51 am ....
[12:52] <Jordan_U> crimsun: I have not found any info either way about it ( macbook pro )
[12:52] <Jordan_U> crimsun: But it did work at one point
[12:55] <noldon> !php
[12:55] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:55] <lovloss> any idea why my refresh went from 81 to 55 when i installed the new nvidia driver?
[12:56] <crimsun> Jordan_U, you haven't found any at all? That seems difficult to fathom...
[12:56] <crimsun> Jordan_U, in any case, what you'd want is dmesg output
[01:00] <Jordan_U> crimsun: Anything specific I should be greping for?
[01:00] <ChesMan> Anyone here very good with byrel?
[01:01] <ChesMan> err beryl
[01:01] <Jordan_U> ChesMan: #beryl or #ubuntu-xgl
[01:01] <ChesMan> cool thank you
[01:01] <ChesMan> wasnt sure of the channel name
[01:01] <breeze-desktop> good night
[01:02] <phr34ck> Hey, how can I use 1280x1024 resolution ?
[01:03] <Jordan_U> phr34ck: What video card?
[01:03] <phr34ck> ATI X600
[01:03] <Jordan_U> phr34ck: Using fglrx?
[01:03] <phr34ck> I used to have that resolution when I was using Windows ... I think it was 1280x800 or something like that.
[01:04] <phr34ck> Jordan_U,  no idea.
[01:04] <Jordan_U> !ati
[01:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:04] <noldon> it is possible to do so only minimized windows is shown in the lower panel in ubuntu?
[01:04] <phr34ck> How can I check >?
[01:04] <Jordan_U> phr34ck: It is something you have to install yourself, so if you don't know you probably don't have the drivers :)
[01:05] <phr34ck> I downloaded the fglrx but it's .rpm file.
[01:05] <phr34ck> Should I use Alien to transform it to .deb file and install ?
[01:05] <Jordan_U> phr34ck: NO!
[01:05] <Seveas> phr34ck, no
[01:05] <Keeguon> hey I'm trying to compile fleow plugin for Banshee but it says "No package 'tao-opengl' found" what can I do?
[01:05] <Seveas> !fglrx | phr34ck
[01:05] <ubotu> phr34ck: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:05] <phr34ck> What am I suppose to do then >
[01:05] <phr34ck> ?*
[01:05] <Jordan_U> phr34ck: It is available in the ubuntu repositories, use the instructions ubotu gave
[01:06] <noldon> can i make so only minimized windows is showned in the lower panel?
[01:07] <phr34ck> Jordan_U,  I think I downloaded it based on that webpage, if I remember correctly.
[01:07] <rzlist> Has anyone seen the atheros (ath_pci) module hanging a system using a Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 motherboard using Edgy?
[01:07] <Jordan_U> phr34ck: Do you know what a package manager is ?
[01:08] <phr34ck> apt ?
[01:08] <Jordan_U> phr34ck: Yes.
[01:08] <base_16> why is greenland on UTC?
[01:08] <base_16> oops, wrong channel
[01:08] <phr34ck> I only know this: apt-get to get packages.
[01:08] <phr34ck> but I have no idea how it works, why it's there and the like.
[01:08] <phr34ck> I just know that it's used to download stuff.
[01:09] <Jordan_U> phr34ck: Ok, I am just confused how you got a .rpm file?
[01:09] <byp> Anyone have any problems with devices no longer being recognized?
[01:09] <phr34ck> Jordan_U,  from ati.com
[01:09] <phr34ck> They said it's the Linux driver.
[01:10] <rzlist> byp: it sounds like a module issue.. what has changed on your system?
[01:10] <LinAsH> phr34ck, you must download the .run driver
[01:10] <awilcox> Okay I have problems, first of all it's 64-bit Kubuntu, I know 64-bit distros are bad so I've heard, but just I hope you will try to help me anyways.
[01:10] <Jordan_U> phr34ck: Ahh, try the ones from apt first, they install automatically and have a .deb ( using alien can mess things up )
[01:10] <MasterShrek> awilcox 64 distros are awesome
[01:10] <byp> Well, I used shred on sda, then I partitioned and formatted it, but then it no longer was recognized, nor any other device
[01:10] <awilcox> I screwed up the mount points, /tmp got the /home partition and /home got the /tmp partition
[01:10] <wasabi_> awilcox: They aren't bad if you stick to 100% free software.
[01:10] <phr34ck> LinAsH, what's the that?
[01:11] <ShayGuy> Haldo. N00b here.
[01:11] <MasterShrek> awilcox look at /etc/fstab
[01:11] <phr34ck> The thing is that I don't want it to install automaticaly, I want to do it.
[01:11] <rzlist> I'm running 64 bit ubuntu.. it runs great (with the exception of the atheros driver)
[01:11] <byp> Syslog showed that it was there, recognnized, but /dev didn't show it
[01:11] <awilcox> So I mounted them to different folders, cp -r'd everything on the /tmp partiton to /home2 (the real /home parition) and rebooted
[01:11] <phr34ck> I mean, the hole idea of me switching to Linux is because I want to do everything, and so I understand what's going on.
[01:11] <awilcox> now it works, obviously, in command prompt mode
[01:11] <ShayGuy> Downloaded a LiveCD yesterday, and couldn't connect to the internet with Ubuntu...
[01:11] <LinAsH> it's a script that build the .deb package for the ati driver
[01:11] <rzlist> byp: did they show up using lsmod?
[01:11] <awilcox> but in graphics mode, when I type the password, the screen goes black and then it brings me back to the password prompt
[01:11] <byp> Let me check
[01:12] <LinAsH> phr34ck, what's your ati card ?
[01:12] <awilcox> MasterShrek yeah I already messed with that, and I got it to mount properly
[01:12] <awilcox> I checked all the permissions and stuff like that
[01:12] <ShayGuy> I'm on a wireless connection; not sure what type the router is...
[01:12] <phr34ck> X600
[01:12] <phr34ck> mobility
[01:12] <byp> Sorry, what exactly am I looking for with lsmod here? :P
[01:12] <phr34ck> tis a lappy.
[01:12] <Jordan_U> phr34ck: In debian based systems you generally don't want to install things manually, and IMHO you probably won't learn much from it.
[01:12] <rzlist> byp: what device did you lose?
[01:12] <Latty> Happy New Year All.
[01:12] <Latty> (In England, at least)
[01:12] <awilcox> Happy New Year, Latty.  :D
[01:13] <byp> rzlist: any that were plugged in, such as sda and sdb
[01:13] <phr34ck> Jordan_U,  at least I should understand how it works .. don't you think ?
[01:13] <phr34ck> I mean, how does the apt works?>
[01:13] <phr34ck> What's happening under the hood ?
[01:13] <awilcox> phr34ck, under the hood it's calling dpkg
[01:13] <rzlist> byp: are these SATA or scsi devices?
[01:14] <phr34ck> what's that?
[01:14] <__mikem> phr34ck, all apt does is connect to the url's in your sources.list file, and finds a package file and downloadds and installs it
[01:14] <byp> OH, sorry, they're flash drives, so SCSI, I think
[01:14] <Jordan_U> phr34ck: You would probably learn more reading the man pages ( again just my opinion ) I can find a good tutorial for doing it manually though if you still want to.
[01:14] <awilcox> phr34ck, under THAT hood it's decompressing the .deb file and installing it to the paths that it's told to, kind of like a ZIP file on Windows with paths, but .deb instead
[01:14] <phr34ck> I see.
[01:14] <awilcox> phr34ck run    man dpkg   from the Konsole
[01:14] <byp> rzlist: well, _technically_ not SCSI, but I heard from somewhere that sd* would be that
[01:14] <awilcox> oh sorry -- terminal, not konsole :D
[01:15] <phr34ck> I seriously need to get used to that man command ... but the b*** gives like 300 lines per command.
[01:15] <phr34ck> That's tooooo much *Sighs*
[01:15] <rzlist> byp: these are probably USB storage devices.. are they USB plug-ins?
[01:15] <auTONYmous> phr34ck: sorry I'm late on this question...I understand you have an ATI X600, right?
[01:15] <byp> rzlist: Excuse me?
[01:15] <phr34ck> ATI mobility X600, using my laptop.
[01:15] <auTONYmous> and you're having probs getting ATI's driver to work?
[01:15] <rzlist> byp: are these little usb sticks?
[01:15] <byp> rzlist: yes
[01:16] <phr34ck> I didn't try yet, all I did is that I downloaded a .rpm file from ati.com and I have no idea how to make it install.
[01:16] <rzlist> byp: then use: lsmod | grep usb
[01:16] <auTONYmous> Oh, okay. The RPM probably won't work for you.
[01:16] <Jordan_U> auTONYmous: We are more going over manually installing vs installing from apt / learning Linux in generall.
[01:16] <rzlist> byp: usb_storage should be shown as loaded
[01:16] <awilcox> So um, what to do for password loops?  as in, when I boot, it asks for the password.  I enter it, it goes black for a second, then asks for it again.  I think it has something to do with the Xorg.conf file but I'm not really sure what could be wrong with it.  this is a new install, just installed today.  before installing I ran hard disk diagnostics, memory tests, everything to make sure that this computer was performing in tip-top shape.
[01:16] <byp> rzlist: what output do you want?
[01:16] <byp> rzlist: it's there
[01:16] <auTONYmous> You either need ATI's .run file or you need to use the one in the repos
[01:16] <LinAsH> phr34ck, the current driver doesn't support 3D ?
[01:16] <phr34ck> yeah, I figured. I was told that I could use ALIEN to convert, but that is not a good thing. Don't know why.
[01:17] <byp> usb_storage            74304  0
[01:17] <Jordan_U> !alien
[01:17] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[01:17] <auTONYmous> that enver worked for me either...FYI
[01:17] <auTONYmous> never
[01:17] <phr34ck> LinAsH, what do you mean ?
[01:17] <auTONYmous> < --- ATI X300 on a lappy
[01:17] <phr34ck> Everything is working fine at the moment, but I want a higher resolution. Currently, I can only use 1024x700 something, and that's just unbarable since I have 15.4" wide screen.
[01:17] <rzlist> byp: that means device is not connected..
[01:18] <byp> rzlist: well, there are two devices connected
[01:18] <phr34ck> I need at least 1280 in order to get comfortable with the resolution.
[01:18] <awilcox> phr34ck: FYI it's 1024x768, and you're probably wanting 1280x768
[01:18] <rzlist> byp: check dmesg when you unplug and replug the usb stick
[01:18] <witless> where do i add ~/bin to my path ?
[01:18] <byp> aight
[01:18] <auTONYmous> did you look at the /var/log/Xorg.log file?
[01:18] <phr34ck> Everything si soo big, and websites are not rendered correctly "Fonts are soo damn small, or soo damn big"
[01:18] <awilcox> witless, ~/bin  or  /bin ?
[01:18] <witless> awilcox: ~/bin
[01:18] <phr34ck> awilcox,  bingo my friend.
[01:18] <byp> [17192568.604000]  usb 4-8: USB disconnect, address 16
[01:19] <auTONYmous> If you hvae I2c or DDC turned on, you'll see what the monitor's suppported resolutions are in there.
[01:19] <byp> disconnect...
[01:19] <balzac> hello
[01:19] <phr34ck> so I thought I could update the driver so I can get that resolution ?
[01:19] <awilcox> witless, somewhere in your .bashrc IIRC
[01:19] <byp> rzlist: nothing on connect
[01:19] <LinAsH> well if you have 3d support with the free driver why bother with the proprietary one ?
[01:19] <phr34ck> I was told once to configure something with x.org or something, I did put that resoltuion but it's not coming up
[01:19] <balzac> i'm trying to share a directory of my ubuntu machine with my windows machine
[01:19] <Rageagainstthis> is there a way to find out my ip address from terminal.  Not the ip that is given by the router but from my isp.
[01:19] <auTONYmous> modelines could be off...
[01:19] <rzlist> byp: try: modprobe usb_storage
[01:19] <balzac> i want to ping my windows machine from my linux machine to check if they're connected
[01:19] <noldon> i just installed php5 and mysql and when i create a .php file in /var/www and try it it just wanna download it instead of show it in firefox
[01:19] <Jordan_U> LinAsH: He isn't getting full resolution
[01:19] <awilcox> How often can you repeat a question on this channel without being considered a pest?
[01:20] <legal_confusion> how about some help with the nvidia drivers and dual monitors, with seperate X servers ? I have successfully installed the nvidia drivers....
[01:20] <witless> awilcox: this isn't getting picked up with gdm
[01:20] <byp> rzlist: nothing returned
[01:20] <auTONYmous> check the log file to see what the motnitor is reporting as supported res, versus what the driver is using
[01:20] <phr34ck> what does Fakeroot do? I saw it twice today.
[01:20] <rzlist> byp: use: depmod -a, then modprobe usb_storage
[01:20] <awilcox> noldon, check the Ubuntu Wiki, it's a "normal" problem if you can call it that
[01:20] <awilcox> !tell noldon about lamp
[01:20] <LinAsH> phr34ck, can you post your /etc/xorg.conf in pastbin.com ?
[01:20] <phr34ck> sure, will do.
[01:21] <byp> rzlist: done, but no results still
[01:21] <awilcox> phr34ck, fakeroot makes dpkg THINK that it is running as root/superuser when it really isn't -- for more info, man fakeroot :D
[01:21] <phr34ck> meh
[01:21] <auTONYmous> phr34ck: post your /var/log/Xorg.log also
[01:21] <awilcox> witless what are you trying to do?
[01:21] <phr34ck> is that a command ?
[01:21] <byp> Linux *** 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Dec 8 17:51:56 UTC 2006 i686
[01:21] <byp> GNU/Linux
[01:21] <awilcox> phr34ck yeah but you would have to install fakeroot first
[01:21] <rzlist> byp: what brand of USB storage is it?
[01:21] <phr34ck> I can't find xorg.conf
[01:21] <phr34ck> it's not there .
[01:22] <awilcox> phr34ck /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[01:22] <legal_confusion> /etc/X11/
[01:22] <awilcox> with a captial X
[01:22] <awilcox> *X*org.conf
[01:22] <byp> rzlist: any USB device I plug in, iPod, sandisk cruzer, etc.
[01:22] <witless> awilcox: when i start gnome-terminal, i want ~/bin to be in my path
[01:22] <awilcox> UNIX/Linux is case sensitive, phr34ck
[01:22] <auTONYmous> brb
[01:22] <awilcox> witless what shell do you use?  BASH?  CSH?  korn?  something else?  or just the default one (which would be BASH, BTW)
[01:23] <byp> rzlist: all I did was run shred on my flash drive, then fdisked it, and then mkdosfs
[01:23] <witless> awilcox: bash
[01:23] <kitche> awilcox: actually the default in ubuntu is dash
[01:23] <byp> rzlist: I had missing superblock errors, then everything went downhill
[01:23] <phr34ck> Okay, I have opened the file with nano.
[01:23] <awilcox> kitche O_o is that like some BASH offshoot or something?
[01:23] <phr34ck> how can select all and copy ?
[01:23] <crimsun> kitche, awilcox, the default -system- shell is dash, but the default -user- shell is still bash
[01:23] <LinAsH> phr34ck,  open it with gedit
[01:23] <byp> rzlist: udev too
[01:23] <gnomefreak> kitche: only in edgy and newer
[01:23] <Jordan_U> kitche: That is the default sh, not the default shell, a subtle but important difference :)
[01:24] <rzlist> byp: let me check and I'll be back
[01:24] <DigitalNinja> how do I get the system to read the partition table?
[01:24] <Innomen> hi all. trying to put ubuntu on a thinkpad 600, it says invalid compression "error 2" and "kernel panic" is there a way to simply install it to the drive without ahveing to load it into memory or some other work around?
[01:24] <awilcox> Jordan_U Ahhh, sh-3.1 is dash okay got it thanks :)
[01:24] <kitche> Jordan_U: sorry but I consider sh as shell since sh is a shell
[01:25] <phr34ck> meh
[01:25] <kitche> ah dash is based on ash
[01:25] <phr34ck> I have to install *missing plugins* in firefox *Sighs*
[01:25] <Jordan_U> kitche: awilcox: what I mean is that if you open gnome terminal or a tty you get Bash.
[01:25] <Asc> Innomen: Yes, use the alternate install CD.  But I can't promise it'll work any better when you go to start it.
[01:25] <Innomen> any ideas anyone?
[01:25] <noldon> !apache2
[01:25] <ubotu> apache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 35 kB, installed size 80 kB
[01:25] <awilcox> if I pastebin *my* Xorg.conf will somebody look at it?
[01:25] <Innomen> asc: alternate install cd? what would i put in google to find that
[01:26] <LinAsH> phr34ck,  for pastebin.com ?
[01:26] <rzlist> byp: Have you tried rebooting the box to see if it made a difference?
[01:26] <phr34ck> yeah
[01:26] <phr34ck> flash player
[01:26] <awilcox> and um, how to pastebin something without using graphics mode, since this is the problem?
[01:26] <byp> rzlist: that usually fixes the problem
[01:26] <awilcox> phr34ck oh those are only ads just screw them (can you tell I hate flash yet?  :) )
[01:26] <byp> rzlist: found this in syslog
[01:26] <LinAsH> phr34ck, there is no flash !
[01:26] <byp> Dec 31 17:17:38 localhost kernel: [17188908.920000]  usb-storage: device scan complete
[01:26] <byp> Dec 31 17:18:31 localhost kernel: [17188962.000000]   10:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
[01:27] <Jordan_U> awilcox: You could try upstream ( #upstream ) .
[01:27] <ShayGuy> I have an Ubuntu LiveCD, but I couldn't connect to the internet with it. I'm currently running Windows. I'm on my home wireless network, using my laptop. The wireless router is a D-Link. How do I need to configure Ubuntu?
[01:27] <Asc> Innomen: It should be around the same place you find the normal CD.  I'll try and locate the page, but my internets are slow.
[01:27] <byp> Dec 31 17:18:31 localhost kernel: [17188962.000000]  FAT: bread failed in fat_clusters_flush
[01:27] <phr34ck> isn't the website http://pastebin.com ?
[01:27] <Innomen> dont worry i'll find it
[01:27] <Innomen> thank you very much :)
[01:27] <gRaCiOsO> how can i execute dbmix i have installed it with apt-get ?
[01:27] <awilcox> Jordan_U for what?!  I'm using Dapper not Feisty
[01:27] <kitche> Jordan_U: ok well I understand it now since dash actually got rid of sh I just read the page on it even though it seems to break shell scripts alot if the script doesn't do #!/bin/bash
[01:27] <Asc> Innomen: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
[01:27] <rzlist> byp: well.. if the linux kernel does not find a valid media then it will ignore it.. and this is probably what happend.
[01:28] <Innomen> ahhh thank you
[01:28] <LinAsH> phr34ck, yes, very odd
[01:28] <Innomen> i was on that page but yoiu still beat me to it heheh
[01:28] <Asc> Fear my 56k
[01:28] <noldon> do i need apache to use apache2?
[01:28] <awilcox> Asc hahahahahahahahaha
[01:28] <phr34ck> something is wrong.
[01:28] <phr34ck> It's opening adv. website
[01:28] <byp> rzlist: however, when this happenedDec 31 17:47:32 localhost kernel: [17190703.156000]  sd 13:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sda
[01:28] <Asc> Good luck getting it working, in any case.
[01:28] <byp> rzlist: it was still  not working
[01:29] <phr34ck> Related Categories
[01:29] <awilcox> phr34ck, tell me it's Windows, then there are excuses (e.g. spyware)
[01:29] <phr34ck> Chat and Forum
[01:29] <phr34ck> Chat Avenue
[01:29] <phr34ck> Filipino Chat Rooms
[01:29] <phr34ck> Kids Chat Online
[01:29] <phr34ck> Free Chat Rooms for Kids
[01:29] <phr34ck> Golf Chat
[01:29] <elyon> Does anyone know of a good Bible software for Linux?
[01:29] <byp> rzlist: nothing in /dev
[01:29] <phr34ck> and stuff like htat.
[01:29] <__mikem> !ops
[01:29] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[01:29] <phr34ck> I can finally say it's UBUNTU BABY !!
[01:29] <LinAsH> phr34ck, my first adress was wrong
[01:29] <awilcox> elyon, (this is a joke), cat /dev/bible?
[01:29] <witless> cat /dev/random
[01:29] <LinAsH> it's pastebin.com and not pastbin.com
[01:29] <byp> rzlist: however, using mknod sda1 b 8 1, then mounting, it worked
[01:29] <Seveas> elyon, gnomesword
[01:29] <rzlist> byp: Ubuntu usually creates a mounting entry under /media.. did it create one?
[01:29] <elyon> Thanks, Seveas.
[01:30] <byp> rzlist: no
[01:30] <awilcox> gnomefreak, um just asking, wasn't that a little harsh?  Not that I condone pastes inside the channel, and my God I must be brave to question an op, but still?  now he doesn't know he's on the wrong address...so he can't fix the problem
[01:30] <byp> rzlist: a reboot should take care of all this - I just want to know what the problem is so I can avoid it in the future
[01:30] <byp> rzlist: thanks
[01:31] <elyon> hmm... Can't Install GnomeSword because there is conflicting software?
[01:31] <rzlist> byp: good luck..
[01:31] <__mikem> awilcox, he was spamming
[01:31] <awilcox> elyon, actually it's GnomesWord, like you know, The Word, and what package is conflicting?
[01:31] <__mikem> well, he aint banned anymore.
[01:32] <awilcox> __mikem he was pasting what he saw -- or was there a previous problem with him?
[01:32] <noldon> how do i setup apache2?
[01:32] <con-man> cd ..
[01:32] <con-man> oops
[01:32] <con-man> wrong window
[01:32] <awilcox> con-man hehe
[01:32] <con-man> :D
[01:32] <__mikem> awilcox, when I see a whole bunch of lines including the words FIlipino Chat, I can only assume
[01:32] <awilcox> __mikem hahahaha yeah I understand :)
[01:33] <elyon> awilcox - Synaptic says it depends on "libsword5c2a" but it is not installable.
[01:33] <fr500> hello
[01:33] <fr500> how can i make gksudo apps use the same theme as my normal apps
[01:33] <awilcox> hmm...have you ran   sudo apt-get update   lately, elyon?
[01:33] <fr500> like gdebi, etherreal, etc
[01:33] <CATS_CEO> !packages
[01:33] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[01:33] <elyon> awilcox - yesterday.  I'll try it again.
[01:34] <awilcox> fr500 change the theme of the root user, I'm not sure how but it's doable, wait for someone more knowledgeable
[01:34] <elyon> alwilcox - although, isn't that the same as clicking "Reload" in Synaptic?
[01:34] <fr500> ok
[01:34] <awilcox> elyon not sure, I don't use GUI tools for package management
[01:34] <phr34ck> http://pastebin.com/848739
[01:34] <snowflake> The screen just turned pink.
[01:34] <phr34ck> that's my xorg file
[01:35] <snowflake> How do I fix this, please?
[01:35] <phr34ck> take a look people, and tell me how to edit it so I can use my resolution.
[01:35] <awilcox> snowflake, wheeee!  pink!  Now, what did you do?  and what part is pink?  does it have a pink tint, is one program pink, or the whole thing?
[01:35] <elyon> awilcox, okay, I ran that and tried again... still says its uninstallable.
[01:35] <snowflake> The whole screen is pinkish, please.
[01:35] <awilcox> elyon, hmm you may have to add multiverse, not sure, do you have multiverse?
[01:35] <snowflake> Now, it's not pink but it sometimes turns pinkish.
[01:36] <ShayGuy> I have an Ubuntu LiveCD, but I couldn't connect to the internet with it. I'm currently running Windows. I'm on my home wireless network, using my laptop. The wireless router is a D-Link. How do I need to configure Ubuntu?
[01:36] <awilcox> snowflake, this sounds like a monitor problem...or an IGP problem, but not a Linux problem.
[01:36] <elyon> awilcox - I've had that enabled for a while.
[01:36] <LinAsH> phr34ck, at line 93 the driver is vesa : it should be radeon
[01:36] <noldon> !group
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about group - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <phr34ck> can I transform .tar.gz files into .deb files ?
[01:36] <snowflake> It didn't happen in Windows XP, please.
[01:36] <noldon> how do i found out the group name in ubuntu
[01:36] <kitche> phr34ck: those are "usually" source tarballs
[01:36] <Innomen> snowflake it didnt happen in xp THEN
[01:37] <melon> in the synaptic package manager (or anywhere else) - is it possible to see what programs/resources/stuff that i've personally added? i'd like to go on a cleanup mission w/o actually breaking things that shouldn't be messed with
[01:37] <awilcox> phr34ck no, but you can run tar -xzf filename.tar.gz and it will make a directory, then it will probably have something like ./configure, then make, then make install
[01:37] <snowflake> Innomen: I haven't changed my monitor, please.
[01:37] <Innomen> it may have happened in xp NOW, hardware fails pretty much at random
[01:37] <awilcox> Innomen, do you still HAVE Winxp installed?
[01:37] <phr34ck> awilcox, thanks.
[01:37] <awilcox> phr34ck np :)
[01:38] <awilcox> sorry
[01:38] <awilcox> snowflake, do you still HAVE Winxp installed?
[01:38] <phr34ck> LinAsH, that's the only thing I should change ?
[01:38] <Innomen> i resintalled a machine for a friend, and his sound died, he blamed me, truned out it was the speaker randomly dieing
[01:38] <LinAsH> phr34ck, yes
[01:38] <snowflake> awilcox: No.
[01:38] <Innomen> awilcox, yes? but i'm not asking for help at the moment, ASC sqaured me away
[01:38] <elyon> awilcox - Any other ideas?
[01:38] <awilcox> snowflake well I'd put it back on and see if it works
[01:38] <fr500> !root
[01:38] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:38] <fr500> !roottheme
[01:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roottheme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:38] <fr500> !theme
[01:38] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:38] <awilcox> Innomen sorry I was directing it to snowflake, sorry :)
[01:39] <fr500> !changethemes
[01:39] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[01:39] <Innomen> np you confuzzled me :P
[01:39] <phr34ck> should I reset something, or something ?
[01:39] <LinAsH> phr34ck, for this use the 'root' mode with 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[01:39] <Innomen> 14 minutes till alternate is downloaded
[01:39] <Innomen> yay!
[01:39] <awilcox> elyon you may need to add more sources, or distupgrade to edgy :-( , but I'm really not sure
[01:39] <snowflake> You sure there isn't a program that turns your whole screen pinkish? Strange thing is, it only happens in my account. My brother doesn't get this problem, please.
[01:40] <Innomen> that whole "
[01:40] <Innomen> please" thing is getting old heheh
[01:40] <melon> lol
[01:40] <Innomen> must be a language thing
[01:40] <LinAsH> phr34ck, logout and then press alt+ctrl+backspace
[01:40] <elyon> awilcox - I'm running Edgy right now, if that's what you mean.
[01:40] <phr34ck> LinAsH, that's what I did, yes.
[01:40] <phr34ck> but still I cannot use the resolution: 1280x768
[01:40] <awilcox> heh yeah, but on old kids shows I remember once there was some character that always ended EVERY sentence with "please" it would drive me insane
[01:40] <phr34ck> I won't lose this session if I did so ?
[01:40] <dom_> can someone help me get my wifi working?
[01:40] <snowflake> No way to solve this problem, please?
[01:40] <Innomen> weird resolution
[01:41] <Innomen> why use it?
[01:41] <melon> i've had my monitor go pink.. it was broken..
[01:41] <awilcox> elyon, hmm maybe it needs Dapper
[01:41] <LinAsH> phr34ck, yeah but that's the price ;)
[01:41] <Innomen> snowflake: delet your account and make a new one? i dont know how you would do that it just a general suggestion
[01:41] <dom_> is there any way to reset network settings to default?
[01:41] <phr34ck> Innomen, I'm using a 15.4" screen (laptop), it's the best resolution.
[01:41] <awilcox> snowflake, one question: do you have different resolutions for each of the accounts?
[01:41] <Innomen> ahhhh
[01:41] <phr34ck> LinAsH, the hell I won't. I'll wait till the updates are finished.
[01:41] <Innomen> i understand
[01:42] <awilcox> Innomen :D
[01:42] <Innomen> 11 mins
[01:42] <awilcox> good maybe you can help me with my problem
[01:42] <LinAsH> phr34ck, you should indeed !
[01:42] <snowflake> No, I don't thought so, please.
[01:42] <Innomen> awilcox: i'll do what i can
[01:42] <phr34ck> It got 1's and 0's and stuff.
[01:42] <awilcox> phr34ck :)
[01:42] <Innomen> mint flavored 1s!
[01:42] <Innomen> MMMmmmmm
[01:43] <noldon> damn for some reason my apache2 using utf8
[01:43] <phr34ck> what, you want one too ?
[01:43] <awilcox> Okay I just installed this Kubuntu 6.06LTS installation today.  After getting everything configured correctly I noticed that it had the /tmp and /home mount points mixed up
[01:43] <melon> in the synaptic package manager (or anywhere else) - is it possible to see what programs/resources/stuff that i've personally added? i'd like to go on a cleanup mission w/o actually breaking things that shouldn't be messed with
[01:43] <awilcox> phr34ck mmmm thank you!
[01:43] <snowflake> I just take a screen shot of my screen when it is pink. It wasn't pink in the picture.
[01:43] <awilcox> snowflake, ah-ha!  it is the monitor!
[01:43] <Innomen> hmmmm
[01:43] <phr34ck> snowflake,  it's probably your monitor.
[01:43] <awilcox> anyways back to my story...
[01:43] <kitche> awlicox: ok edit your /etc/fstab with sudo gedit /etc/fstab and flip them around
[01:43] <LinAsH> phr34ck, btw I believe the best resolution for 15"4 is 1280x800 not 1280x768
[01:44] <Innomen> i agree, its the moniter
[01:44] <phr34ck> LinAsH,  I'm not sure if it's supported, but will try it ...... when I log out =)
[01:45] <Innomen> Ph34ck: yea, DUH, god
[01:45] <Innomen> :P
[01:45] <Innomen> i want a cookie
[01:45] <phr34ck> Innomen, my cookie is affecting you, eih ?
[01:45] <infbliss> is there a way to invoke hibernate from the command line
[01:45] <phr34ck> I know it, it's soo addictive
[01:46] <Innomen> i want a COOKIE
[01:46] <auTONYmous> phr34ck: Did you get any satisfaction on the xorg prob yet?
[01:46] <Innomen> 6 minutes
[01:47] <awilcox> so I cp -r'd the home directory to the new mount point, for some reason it didn't even mount /dev/hda8 to /tmp so I didn't have to erase anything, I just formatted it and reset it.  well I put two 8s into fstab so it came up in maintenance mode saying fstab is broke.  so I fixed it.  then it said bad FS type, I forgot to put ext3, so I reformatted and recopied EVERYTHING again, then I was finally able to almost log in; I typed my password in, then i
[01:47] <Innomen> i cant get no, dun dun dun dund undundun, satis faction, dundundnudndundundun
[01:47] <awilcox> .
[01:47] <phr34ck> auTONYmous, not quite .. There are still 12 updates to be done.
[01:47] <auTONYmous> Innomen: that's what I was thinking....
[01:47] <Innomen> hehehe
[01:47] <Innomen> whats the problem again?
[01:47] <Innomen> i wasnt paying attention
[01:47] <awilcox> oh GOD.....
[01:48] <Innomen> oh oh
[01:48] <Innomen> you just typed it
[01:48] <Innomen> nm
[01:48] <awilcox> okay
[01:48] <awilcox> thank you :)
[01:48] <Innomen> no no no, thank you *munch*
[01:48] <awilcox> :D
[01:48] <auTONYmous> phr34ck: You ARE trying to use ATI's driver, right?
[01:48] <Innomen> ; I typed my password in, then i
[01:48] <Innomen> then you what
[01:48] <Innomen> it cut off
[01:48] <LinAsH> auTONYmous, trying the radeon driver first
[01:48] <awilcox> oh shoot, I hate freenode ircd...
[01:49] <auTONYmous> okay
[01:49] <fr500> do hidden files (preceeded by a "." ) show  up on every open file dialog on your ubuntu?
[01:49] <Innomen> i guess i'm the only one that read your problem
[01:49] <captaindalle> :)
[01:49] <awilcox> then I was finally able to almost log in; I typed my password in, then it said "could not run ksomething; check your installation" and then I tried doing it again after resetting the permissions.  it went black, then it went back to the password prompt, then I typed again, then it went back to the prompt after going black for a second
[01:49] <Innomen> see cookies are powerful
[01:49] <awilcox> ^ there's the rest
[01:49] <phr34ck> What do they mean by that? "You will need the ATI Driver Installer, not the seperate XFree86/X.org rpm packages."
[01:49] <kohr> hey, anyone know if most exteranal HD enclosures will work with linux?
[01:49] <Innomen> man that is way beyond me, :/
[01:50] <phr34ck> kohr,  it will. I just did mine.
[01:50] <Innomen> bruenig: lmao
[01:50] <awilcox> shoot.
[01:50] <awilcox> :)
[01:50] <kohr> phr34ck, so most of them work? cool
[01:50] <Innomen> no Fin fair!
[01:50] <awilcox> And you CAN'T tell me Firefox has an ice cream disabler
[01:50] <kohr> see ya
[01:50] <kohr> thanks
[01:50] <Innomen> it might, yay for open source
[01:51] <Innomen> isnt ice cream like a sin
[01:51] <Innomen> or something
[01:51] <awilcox> no
[01:51] <Innomen> i dont kleep up with mythology
[01:51] <Innomen> oky, nm then
[01:51] <awilcox> :)
[01:51] <auTONYmous> phr34ck: did you put your Xorg.log on pastebin?
[01:51] <awilcox> Yeah that's it I think my Xorg.conf is screewd
[01:51] <Innomen> 1 minute 30 seconds!
[01:51] <awilcox> *screwed
[01:51] <awilcox> I forgot
[01:51] <LinAsH> auTONYmous, He was using the vesa driver
[01:52] <phr34ck> auTONYmous, owh I forgot abou that ... *went to do it*
[01:52] <dom_> anybody here good w/ networking?
[01:52] <phr34ck> where is that located?
[01:52] <awilcox> When I did sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop and then startx from the command line, Xorg caught sig11
[01:52] <Innomen> dom_ i know tons of people and i'm good with faces
[01:52] <dom_> lol
[01:52] <Innomen> wait, wrong networking
[01:52] <awilcox> hehe Innomen
[01:52] <auTONYmous> LinAsH: specified in Xorg.conf, or defaulting due to missing radeon driver?
[01:52] <Innomen> sorry
[01:52] <Innomen> :P
[01:52] <dom_> seriously though, i'm about to go insane with this...
[01:52] <LinAsH> auTONYmous, -> http://pastebin.com/848739
[01:52] <LinAsH> auTONYmous, specified
[01:52] <Innomen> i was just tryin to make ya smile
[01:53] <awilcox> Innomen: When I did sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop and then startx from the command line, Xorg caught sig11.  can you help?
[01:53] <auTONYmous> oh, that helps..
[01:53] <JockeTF> Happy new year! :)
[01:53] <dom_> i'll smile when i can ping google from my desktop
[01:53] <Innomen> awilcox: yea let me break out my greek to english handbook
[01:53] <Innomen> *flips pages*
[01:53] <awilcox> Happy New Year 2007 JockeTF!
[01:53] <auTONYmous> looks like someone TRIED the ATI driver...'
[01:53] <Innomen> I assume this has something to do wqith a computer
[01:53] <phr34ck> habbe n00 yir.
[01:53] <awilcox> Innomen hehehehehe
[01:53] <Innomen> :P
[01:54] <awilcox> Innomen, you don't need a GREEK to English translator, you need a GEEK to English translator!
[01:54] <Innomen> ...well sonova...
[01:54] <ShayGuy> Can anyone read this, or am I /still/ doing something wrong?
[01:54] <dom_> i'm connected to my router successfully, and i have an IP from dhcp, but i can't ping anyone... not even the router
[01:55] <phr34ck> How can I see all global varibales?
[01:55] <awilcox> ShayGuy, hello!
[01:55] <Innomen> ShayGuy: We read you, come on back
[01:55] <awilcox> phr34ck, "set"
[01:55] <kitche> ShayGuy: yes but for some reason still is /still/
[01:55] <phr34ck> I used to change PS1 or something, so I can get a customised line
[01:55] <Asc> ShayGuy: We can't make out what you're saying, please try again.
[01:55] <Innomen> asc: i like you
[01:55] <LinAsH> phr34ck, export
[01:55] <Innomen> heheh
[01:55] <ShayGuy> I take it that's a yes. Now, my problem.
[01:55] <phr34ck> Where are stored usually >
[01:55] <phr34ck> ?*
[01:55] <awilcox> Now
[01:56] <Innomen> ShayGuy: your moniter isnt pink is it?
[01:56] <captaindalle> How do I open .rar files, please?
[01:56] <ShayGuy> Got a LiveCD, but couldn't connect to the internet using Ubuntu.
[01:56] <ShayGuy> I'm on Windows now.
[01:56] <awilcox> Innomen, seriously, this is really starting to bug the crap out of me, this is NOT my computer, it HAS to be done tomorrow
[01:56] <kitche> captaindalle: unrar
[01:56] <LinAsH> phr34ck, you mean bash variable ?
[01:56] <awilcox> ShayGuy, Innomen both of you hahahahaha
[01:56] <Innomen> awilcox: I cant help you, i'm clueless
[01:56] <awilcox> Innomen :-(
[01:56] <kitche> captaindalle: you might have to install unrar also
[01:56] <Innomen> :(
[01:56] <ziro01> sup
[01:57] <phr34ck> I don't know, PS1 is a bash variable?
[01:57] <Innomen> I'm comic relife, thats about it
[01:57] <phr34ck> isn't Bash variables Global variables ?
[01:57] <awilcox> captaindalle     sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[01:57] <ShayGuy> I'm using my laptop, on a home wireless network, with a D-Link router.
[01:57] <Innomen> Guys! someone help awilcox, he's nice, and we know you can do it
[01:57] <awilcox> :D
[01:57] <Innomen> he's been in line for like 4 days, think of the children, come on
[01:58] <awilcox> hehehe
[01:58] <LinAsH> phr34ck, what is PS1 for ?
[01:58] <phr34ck> ShayGuy,  what was the problem? why you couldn't connect ?
[01:58] <ziro01> ??
[01:58] <Innomen> for only 15 cents a day you can save awilcox
[01:58] <awilcox> actually, this thing has been buggering out on me since December 22nd
[01:58] <awilcox> Innomen, naw, $15 a day :)
[01:58] <noldon> !mysql
[01:58] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:58] <phr34ck> instead of the usual user@machine ~: .. I could customise something of my own.
[01:58] <Innomen> awilcox: Shhh, we'll stick them with hidden charges later, dont you know anything about marketing?
[01:58] <ShayGuy> Not sure. Think I need to fiddle with the configurations (it /is/ Linux) but I'd like to know what I'm doing.
[01:59] <awilcox> Innomen hehe, yeah, that was BEFORE the hidden charges :)
[01:59] <Asc> Shay, and you're trying to set up the wireless and don't know how?  Or you know how and can't get the card to work?
[01:59] <marelo> hello, i've just intalled unreal tournament in my computer, but the fps is too slow, i couldn't even play. Does anyone know what can it be??
[01:59] <Innomen> Asc is wise, listen
[01:59] <auTONYmous> phr34ck: I know of a good place for Bash Prompts....
[01:59] <awilcox> marelo, bad card?  old card?
[01:59] <auTONYmous> http://www.gilesorr.com/bashprompt/jsb/prompt.html
[01:59] <Asc> Actually I'm just hoping the answer is really easy ;p
[01:59] <ShayGuy> I barely even understand the problem.
[01:59] <kitche> marelo: what video card?
[01:59] <marelo> awilcox: i don't think so. the notebook is new
[01:59] <phr34ck> auTONYmous,  thanks.
[01:59] <Asc> could be tricky then
[02:00] <phr34ck> Do you think bash is the best?.
[02:00] <captaindalle> How do I use Unrar, sir?
[02:00] <phr34ck> I heard that Ksh is very good.
[02:00] <marelo> kitche: how can i look this? (I'm new to linux)
[02:00] <auTONYmous> Me personally, yes
[02:00] <awilcox> Asc, could you help me?
[02:00] <kitche> marelo: glxinfo will give you information
[02:00] <auTONYmous> but I switch between bash and ksh at work
[02:00] <auTONYmous> (all Sun and HP stuff)
[02:00] <awilcox> phr34ck, I like the one that comes up with the prompt      sh-3.1$
[02:00] <phr34ck> What are the differences?
[02:00] <arrenlex> marelo: lspci | grep Display
[02:00] <awilcox> that's the one I use, not sure which one it is
[02:00] <noldon> why is my webbserver in utf8
[02:00] <NkuMike> Hey I have an Ubuntu install disk and I was just wondering if there was a way to use it like on my desktop to install ubuntu on a headless computer
[02:00] <awilcox> /bin/sh, so prolly dash
[02:01] <Asc> awilcox: i can try, but I'm not a repository of all knowledge.
[02:01] <superkirbyartist> I am in bad situation: whenever I start my computer, beryl-manager loads and freezes system.
[02:01] <auTONYmous> bash has better prompt scripting, and more user-interface improvements. KSH is more compatible
[02:01] <awilcox> Asc, I'm not asking for Wikipedia, I'm asking for Xorg help.  :)
[02:01] <Innomen> NkuMike: headless? *looks around for the horseman*
[02:01] <Asc> shayguy: just for fun, run 'iwlist scan'
[02:01] <arrenlex> superkirbyartist: Boot into recovery mode and remove the package using the command line.
[02:01] <Innomen> Ooooo done burning ! brb
[02:01] <superkirbyartist> So I want to find out 1) How to enable Aiglx or 2)How to stop beryl-manager from loading.
[02:01] <NkuMike> no monitor no kybd no mouse
[02:01] <Asc> awilcox: You're trying to get an ATI card working, if I remember correctly?
[02:01] <captaindalle> What good games are there for Ubuntu, sir?
[02:01] <awilcox> puh, months ago
[02:02] <marelo> arrenlex: awilcox: kitche: Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[02:02] <superkirbyartist> arrenlex: That can help me for #2, but how do I make aiglx load?
[02:02] <Rageagainstthis> http://pastebin.com/848744  how to creat a laucher for this
[02:02] <marelo> is it good?
[02:02] <awilcox> Asc: Okay I just installed this Kubuntu 6.06LTS installation today.  After getting everything configured correctly I noticed that it had the /tmp and /home mount points mixed up
[02:02] <kitche> marelo: ok pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:02] <arrenlex> superkirbyartist: I'm not even quite sure what AIGLX /is/, so don't ask me. :)
[02:02] <superkirbyartist> Anyone into AIGLX?
[02:02] <ShayGuy> Gonna have to reboot to load the LiveCD...
[02:02] <awilcox> so I cp -r'd the home directory to the new mount point, for some reason it didn't even mount /dev/hda8 to /tmp so I didn't have to erase anything, I just formatted it and reset it.  well I put two 8s into fstab so it came up in maintenance mode saying fstab is broke.  so I fixed it.  then it said bad FS type, I forgot to put ext3, so I reformatted and recopied EVERYTHING again
[02:03] <ShayGuy> "iwlist scan," you say?
[02:03] <awilcox> then I was finally able to almost log in; I typed my password in, then it said "could not run ksomething; check your installation" and then I tried doing it again after resetting the permissions.  it went black, then it went back to the password prompt, then I typed again, then it went back to the prompt after going black for a second
[02:03] <auTONYmous> superkirbyartist: It depends if you have an ATI or Nvidia card...
[02:03] <phr34ck> what's the best download manager out there?
[02:03] <auTONYmous> ATI = no AIGLX support. Nvidia means you can
[02:03] <superkirbyartist> auTONYmous: Nvidia.  Drivers are installed.
[02:03] <awilcox> When I did sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop and then startx from the command line, Xorg caught sig11
[02:03] <awilcox> ^ Asc, there ya go!
[02:03] <arrenlex> awilcox: What's the output of "ls -ld ~ /tmp" ?
[02:03] <Asc> shayguy: I usually recommend running IRC on a computer you're not trying to install in.
[02:03] <auTONYmous> check the Beryl wiki...
[02:03] <NkuMike> Also is there anyway to vpn to an ubuntu box so that I can play with ubuntu which will be installed on a headless box?
[02:03] <Asc> awilcox: Okay, give me a minute to read through that
[02:03] <superkirbyartist> auTONYmous: How do I load the AIGLX instead of XGL.
[02:04] <auTONYmous> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_AIGLX
[02:05] <ShayGuy> Unfortunately, I don't exactly have access to two computers.
[02:05] <kitche> superkirbyartist: using AIGLX is easy just don't use XGL uninstall it or whatever you want open a terminal and type in beryl-manager you can make a script that starts beryl on login also
[02:05] <marelo> kitche: http://pastebin.com/848748
[02:05] <auTONYmous> NkuMike: Do an Ubuntu Server install (no Xorg), set up SSH-server
[02:05] <ShayGuy> My family would not be happy with me monopolizing one of the desktops in addition to my laptop.
[02:05] <phr34ck> I'm going to sleep fellas, thanks for the help everyone. Good night.
[02:05] <kitche> marelo: ah you pasted on the slow pastebin site :( thats ok though
[02:06] <NkuMike> auTONYmous: do you know is there a way I can install it on the headless machine from my windows desktop over the LAN?
[02:06] <marelo> kitche: sorry <:] 
[02:06] <kitche> marelo: ok your using the i810 drivers for a i915 that's probably your problem might want to install the official intel drivers
[02:06] <superkirbyartist> auTONYmous: I don't know how to load AIGLX.
[02:07] <eob84> Hi, can anyone in here give me any tips on setting up mythtv for an external channel change script?
[02:07] <AidanL> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me with a problem with the installation of Ubuntu...
[02:07] <auTONYmous> NkuMike: There is, which requires network booting and mounting an ISO, I've seen it written up, but you'll have to search the Ubuntu WIKI for it
[02:07] <maul555> the resolution manager doesnt give me an option to use a resolution bigger than 1024x768..  I know my vidcard and monitor are capable of more, how can i increase the resolution?
[02:07] <marelo> kitche: are you sure? where can i download this? will it mess up my widescreen resolution? (it give some headaches till i get it working...)
[02:07] <superkirbyartist> autonymous I don't know what to do to load AIGLX.
[02:07] <auTONYmous> superkirbyartist: It's enabled by default, but you need to remove all your XGL references
[02:08] <Asc> arrenlex, let me see if I've got this straight.  Your mount points are now okay, but something crashed and now the display doesn't work?
[02:08] <superkirbyartist> auTONYmous: How do you do that?  If I do that, will I see "AIGLX" in my "Sessions" list?
[02:08] <arrenlex> Asc: I believe you're talking to awilcox
[02:09] <Asc> arrenlex: yeah, probably
[02:09] <Asc> awilcox, let me see if I've got this straight.  Your mount points are now okay, but something crashed and now the display doesn't work?
[02:09] <kitche> superkirbyartist: AIGLX is part of Xorg so you won't see anything in sessions
[02:09] <marelo> kitche: and (k)ubuntu doesn't have a driver for i915? Cause i fresh installed it, so it't the driver that came with kubuntu
[02:09] <superkirbyartist> kitche how do I use/load it?
[02:09] <auTONYmous> superkirbyartist: Nope. You'll just get a standard session. The only way to know is if Beryl Works.
[02:09] <maul555> the resolution manager doesnt give me an option to use a resolution bigger than 1024x768..  I know my vidcard and monitor are capable of more, how can i increase the resolution?
[02:09] <kitche> superkirbyartist: if you use plain xorg your using AIGLX probably have to see your xorg.0.log to make sure
[02:09] <AidanL> I am having a problem with the installation of Ubuntu 6.10. I downloaded the Alternate download after problems with the normal download. The problem I am having is that it is failing when installing - Select and install software
[02:10] <Angelus> hi guys :) Are you able to load hotmail with thunderbird?
[02:10] <auTONYmous> superkirbyartist: AIGLX is built into Xorg. XGL is the only one run as a separate session (basically a secondary X server running atop the primary)
[02:10] <eob84> Anyone here ever configure a myth tv channel change script?
[02:10] <awilcox> Asc something like that
[02:10] <superkirbyartist> Kitche and Autonymous: How do I make it start?  Because whenever I load any session beryl crashes!
[02:11] <auTONYmous> then you're not getting AIGLX
[02:11] <AidanL> Anyones thoughts on my problem would be much appriciated.
[02:11] <awilcox> Asc console mode works (e.g. I'm on irssi right now) but in graphics mode it just goes black and then back to the KDM login promprt
[02:11] <auTONYmous> Start by troubleshooting your Nvidia drivers
[02:11] <awilcox> s/promprt/prompt/
[02:11] <Asc> awilcox: Okay.  Do remember if the ksomething that crashed was more like 'kdesktop' or like 'kthread'?
[02:12] <marelo> kitche: hello?
[02:12] <captaindalle> How do I extract 2 files in Unrar?
[02:12] <kitche> marelo: sudo apt-get install xorg-video-intel
[02:12] <kitche> marelo: the xorg part might be xserver-video-intel
[02:13] <whitehawk1966> Hello 2007
[02:13] <marelo> kitche: ok
[02:13] <arrenlex> !fixres | maul555
[02:13] <ubotu> maul555: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:13] <marelo> kitche: do you think that's also the problem that my fullscreen videos are slow the same way?
[02:13] <awilcox> Asc, something like ksomethingconf or ksomethingconfigure
[02:13] <Hawkline> FAGS
[02:13] <arrenlex> !ops
[02:13] <kitche> marelo: could be
[02:13] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[02:13] <AidanL> I was wondering if someone could assist me with an installation problem. It is failing once it gets to the "Select and install software" bit. Help would be much aprriciated.
[02:14] <marelo> kitche: it said it couldn't find the package
[02:14] <Asc> awilcox: Okay, sounds like a configuration daemon.
[02:14] <rob> arrenlex: ?
[02:14] <arrenlex> ops: (06:13:41 PM) Hawkline: FAGS
[02:14] <arrenlex> (06:13:46 PM) Hawkline left the room ("Leaving").
[02:14] <awilcox> Asc, yeah but that error doesn't come up anymore
[02:14] <rob> k
[02:14] <derFlo> can anybody tellme a link to download free games for ScummVM?
[02:14] <awilcox> rob: the hostmask was dcooper@cpe-76-187-45-61.tx.res.rr.com
[02:15] <awilcox> Asc, now it just goes black and then comes back the KDM prompt
[02:15] <AidanL> What am I to do when a section of the installation fails?
[02:15] <dom_> can anyone help me get my wifi working properly?
[02:15] <arrenlex> awilcox: still curious: What's the output of "ls -ld ~ /tmp" ?
[02:15] <awilcox> Asc and when I did "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" followed by "startx" I got X server caught signal 11
[02:15] <whitehawk1966> INstallation Looks like it stalls at 80% I thnk
[02:15] <Asc> awilcox: Did you get KDE to start at some point previously?
[02:16] <marelo> kitche: the description of i810: This package provides the driver for the Intel i8xx and i9xx family of chipsets, including i810, i815, i830, i845, i855, i865, i915, and i945 series chips.
[02:16] <whitehawk1966> will finish
[02:16] <awilcox> arrenlex, I said already, it never got the /tmp mount point, stupid setup didn't know it WAS to mount at /tmp
[02:16] <kitche> marelo: ok let me find it
[02:16] <awilcox> so it was never mounted until I did it manually
[02:16] <awilcox> Asc yeah
[02:16] <arrenlex> awilcox: So you're trying to start X without a /tmp ?
[02:16] <derFlo> can anybody tellme a link to download free games for ScummVM?
[02:16] <dom_> ...please?
[02:16] <awilcox> arrenlex, no ti's on /
[02:16] <awilcox> s/ti/it/
[02:16] <marelo> kitche: look above
[02:16] <arrenlex> awilcox: What's on /?
[02:16] <awilcox> the / mountpoint, /dev/hda1, contains the /tmp folder
[02:16] <eob84> has anyone here setup and IR blaster for mythtv?
[02:16] <arrenlex> awilcox: So you do have a /tmp.
[02:17] <awilcox> arrenlex, yes, just not a separate partition
[02:17] <arrenlex> awilcox: So tell me what that command prints.
[02:17] <awilcox> ls -ld ~ /tmp right?
[02:17] <arrenlex> awilcox: Yes.
[02:17] <kitche> marelo: yeah but those are open source drivers from Xorg not from Intel
[02:17] <marelo> ohh
[02:17] <auTONYmous> awilcox: what does "sudo mount" give you?
[02:17] <derFlo> can anybody tellme a link to download free games for ScummVM?
[02:17] <marelo> kitche: i think it won't be in the repository, then, will it?
[02:17] <awilcox> auTONYmous, sudo mount or just mount?
[02:17] <Shocka311> Can anyone tell me how to add and edit partitions on my exesting master hard drive?
[02:17] <arrenlex> kitche: They are one in the same, I'm pretty sure. Intel released GPL drivers which the Linux developers integrated into their trees.
[02:17] <auTONYmous> either (I'm just paranoid)
[02:18] <awilcox> arrenlex: drwxrwxr-x 10 jwilcox jwilcox 4096 2006-12-31 19:08 /home/jwilcox
[02:18] <awilcox> ^ jwilcox = user account, my friend/family member I'm setting up the computer for
[02:18] <dxdemetriou> Can anybody help with how can I compile the tcl/tk 8.5a5? I have problem, because it says null version, and I don't know where to fix it.
[02:18] <kitche> arrenlex: maybe but the xorg driver isn't the intel driver since xorg 7.1 was out before Intel released the drivers
[02:18] <awilcox> arrenlex: drwxrwxrwt 12 root   root   1024 2006-12-31 19:04 /tmp
[02:19] <awilcox> auTONYmous: output of mount?  or just relevant partitions?
[02:19] <AidanL> Can anyone help me through an installation problem. It gets to "select and install software" and fails. Do I just move on?
[02:19] <derFlo> can anybody tellme a link to download free games for ScummVM?
[02:19] <arrenlex> awilcox: Everything looks fine. That's not the problem thenl sorry to bother you.
[02:19] <auTONYmous> relevant...ensuring they match fstab
[02:19] <kitche> marelo: see if you have xserver-xorg-video-Intel installed
[02:19] <derFlo> can anybody tellme a link to download free games for ScummVM?
[02:19] <awilcox> arrenlex, not a bother
[02:19] <kitche> marelo: nevermind let me do some searching
[02:19] <awilcox> auTONYmous, okay /dev/hda7 was /home, that should have been /tmp but I didn't set up the mount point during install, and I put /home there by accident
[02:20] <auTONYmous> have you switched it?
[02:20] <derFlo> can anybody tellme a link to download free games for ScummVM?
[02:20] <arrenlex> !repeat | derFlo
[02:20] <ubotu> derFlo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:21] <awilcox> auTONYmous, asc, arrenlex: so what I did was I formatted /dev/hda8 with mke2fs -j then mounted /dev/hda8 (which SHOULD have been /home) to /home2, then cp -r'd /home/jwilcox /home2, then umounted /dev/hda7, then umounted /dev/hda8 and remounted to /home, then changed /etc/fstab
[02:21] <auTONYmous> awilcox: what's the intended mount point for /home?
[02:21] <marelo> kitche: I have xserver-xorg-driver-i810, that one I sent the description
[02:21] <awilcox> auTONYmous /dev/hda8 which is mounted as /home
[02:21] <marelo> kitche: in the description also says: This package provides the driver for the Intel i8xx and i9xx family of chipsets, including i810, i815, i830, i845, i855, i865, i915, and i945 series chips.
[02:21] <marelo> oops sorry
[02:21] <marelo> kitche: also says: X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
[02:22] <Asc> awilcox: Just a point of curiosity.  /etc/fstab is using /dev/*s instead of UUIDs?
[02:22] <marelo> ("Intel")
[02:22] <auTONYmous> asc: you beat me to it
[02:22] <kitche> marlo: try the xserver-xorg-video-Intel then I know on Intel's website they have the linux drivers for download
[02:22] <Asc> Oh, right, you mentioned you're using 6.06
[02:22] <AidanL> What happens if a section of the install fails i.e. Select and Install Software?
[02:22] <Shocka311> anybody? i need to create a new partition on my master hard drive so thatI can install the start up files to install windows on my slave HD but it won't let me edit or create new partitions.
[02:22] <Asc> Although I've not used Kubuntu
[02:22] <alex_> I'm kinda mesmerized by aiglx/beryl
[02:23] <kitche> marelo: hmm seems like the driver from Intel is part of Xorg already
[02:23] <awilcox> Asc yeah
[02:23] <marelo> kitche: sigh.... what do i do, then?
[02:24] <kitche> marelo: change your xorg.conf the driver part of i915 see if that helps any
[02:24] <awilcox> All I did was change the hda7 to hda8
[02:24] <awilcox> that's IT.
[02:24] <blackhawk08> hey, i just installed ubuntu today, and i have 2 prblms(expected with linux) prblm 1 is i cant figure out how to give users root permissions and prblm 2 is i cant figure out how to access my files on my slave drive storage partition
[02:24] <veryl> how do i stop ubuntu from wanting to update a package?
[02:24] <awilcox> EVERYTHING ELSE stayed the same
[02:24] <marelo> instead i810 edit to i915??
[02:24] <arrenlex> !root | blackhawk08
[02:24] <ubotu> blackhawk08: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:24] <Asc> awilcox: Do a 'ps -e | more' and make sure that nothing KDE related is still running
[02:24] <marelo> kitche: instead i810 edit to i915??
[02:24] <noodles12> what was that program that allowed windows to read ext3 partitions?
[02:24] <arrenlex> !mount | blackhawk08
[02:24] <ubotu> blackhawk08: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:25] <awilcox> khelper
[02:25] <awilcox> kthread
[02:25] <awilcox> Should I kill kthread?
[02:25] <dom_> can anyone help me with my wifi?
[02:26] <auTONYmous> noodles12: ext2fsd for Windows....it's a driver+program
[02:26] <blackhawk08> well i use sudo for root things, but for installing i need root permissions..and for some reason my main account wont let me make directories
[02:26] <pickles_> i was having trouble with my laptop wifi, but suse worked much better than ubuntu
[02:26] <Asc> awilcox: no
[02:26] <kitche> marelo: yeah since I know i915 drivers can do direct rendering glxinfo should have told you if it was using direct rendering or not
[02:26] <awilcox> (4) kjournald, khubd, khpsbpkt, klogd, krfcommd
[02:26] <dom_> my computer connects to the router, get's an IP from dhcp, but nothing can get through
[02:26] <awilcox> two kdm and one kdm_greet
[02:26] <dom_> can _anyone_ help me?
[02:26] <Asc> awilcox: With the small-numbered processeds, k stand for kernel instead of KDE
[02:26] <auTONYmous> awilcox: can you reboot in single user mode:
[02:26] <Shocka311> does nobody know??? aaaarrrgghh
[02:26] <awilcox> Asc, oh oops :P
[02:26] <awilcox> auTONYmous yes but do what
[02:26] <Asc> You probably don't want to try to kill the kernel
[02:27] <Asc> although it WOULD be interesting
[02:27] <awilcox> I assume you mean maintenance mode
[02:27] <awilcox> Asc hahahahahahahahahaha
[02:27] <AidanL> I have installed Ubuntu however when I go onto it I have text only and have been asked to login. I don't understand what to do. I thought it booted up, you entered your username and password then got onto your desktop...
[02:27] <kitche> Asc even if you try to kill kthread it restarts back up
[02:27] <awilcox> AidanL my laptop does that, type your name/password then type "startx" at the command prompt
[02:27] <arrenlex> AidanL: Ideally, yes. You have a problem.
[02:27] <Asc> awilcox: kill the KDMs and KDM_greet, for starters
[02:27] <awilcox> AidanL I have no clue why, it just does that, it's very stupid
[02:27] <awilcox> Asc, shall I /etc/init.d/kdm stop first?
[02:27] <arrenlex> AidanL: Was there anything odd about your install?
[02:27] <arrenlex> AidanL: Do you have the gdm package installed?
[02:28] <AidanL> Thanks awilcox, however it has told me there is a Fatal Error:(
[02:28] <auTONYmous> awilcox: On startup, pick the "Recovery Mode" kernel from the Grub list
[02:28] <alex_> might have gotten the server install =P
[02:28] <awilcox> auTONYmous yes I know HOW, I just don't know WHY...what do I DO with it?
[02:28] <Shocka311> kitche: you usually have all the answers, can you help?
[02:28] <arrenlex> AidanL: Ah, then you have a big problem. Can you be more specific than "a fatal error"?
[02:28] <kitche> arrenlex: mine did that also but after a few reboots it worked normally for some reason
[02:28] <Asc> awilcox: It's worth a try.  I have no experience with init.d/kdm
[02:28] <dom_> i can't even ping localhost.... someone please help me!
[02:28] <awilcox> Asc okay
[02:28] <arrenlex> kitche: ...o__O
[02:29] <ewook> wooooha, happy new years -02:29
[02:29] <awilcox> Asc okay after doing /etc/init.d/kdm stop all of them went away
[02:29] <Asc> awilxox: I guess it probably works pretty much the same way as init.d/gdm, but who knows.
[02:29] <AidanL> X10: fatal IO error 104 (Connection Reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 9 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
[02:29] <auTONYmous> you'll be in a user mode lower than X, which will help verify that the mount points are all okay. Once you exit, it will continue with multi-user mode boot from that point
[02:29] <kitche> arrenlex: with just booting to shell first but then after about 3 or so boots it started gdm on boot
[02:29] <Asc> awilcox, are you doing startx with sudo or not?
[02:29] <kitche> AidanL: ok you probably have to configure X with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:29] <awilcox> auTONYmous, FYI I'm not in X, this is irssi and I'm doing all these commands on tty1 (irssi on tty2)
[02:29] <awilcox> Asc, yes it works like gdm
[02:30] <awilcox> Asc, no sudo, I don't on my laptop so I am not here
[02:30] <awilcox> Asc should I sudo?
[02:30] <Asc> awilcox, hmm.
[02:30] <awilcox> it's an NVIDIA GeForce 6100 IGP on an nFORCE 4 (IIRC?) chipset
[02:30] <auTONYmous> I figured that, but you're still in runlevel 5...multi-user with X.
[02:30] <Asc> awilcox: On my install (which started as 5.04 and I've abused a whole lot) startx stopped working.
[02:31] <kitche> auTONYmous: he's in runlevel 2 debian/ubuntu uses runlevel 2 for everything
[02:31] <Asc> awilcox: Just for fun, try starting with 'sudo kdm'
[02:31] <awilcox> auTONYmous, will that REALLY make a difference with /etc/fstab though?!
[02:31] <auTONYmous> not yet, but I
[02:31] <awilcox> kitche thank you :)
[02:31] <melon> in the synaptic package manager (or anywhere else) - is it possible to see what programs/resources/stuff that i've personally added? i'd like to go on a cleanup mission w/o actually breaking things that shouldn't be messed with
[02:31] <awilcox> Asc, okay and okay
[02:31] <auTONYmous> sorry...thinking another system again (I get Sun/HP/Linux/others mixed sometimes...)
[02:31] <awilcox> Asc sudo startx did same thing
[02:31] <arrenlex> melon: Sort by the first column. Packages that didn't come from the repositories won't have the ubuntu logo.
[02:31] <awilcox> Fatal server error:
[02:32] <awilcox> Caught signal 11.  Server aborting
[02:32] <Asc> 0_o
[02:32] <arrenlex> melon: Second column, sorry. The one with logos.
[02:32] <awilcox> Asc, what, should X not SIGSEG?  (IIRC that's #11)
[02:32] <melon> neat.. thanks..
[02:33] <AidanL> I have done what you said awilcox but it still does the same. Perhaps I didn't reconfigure it correctly...
[02:33] <awilcox> Asc, which explains why KDM keeps rebooting, X is crashing so it automatically restarts X
[02:33] <Asc> awilcox: That is displayed when you try to sudo startx/kdm in the tty?  Not when trying to log in?
[02:33] <awilcox> Asc correct, sudo startx OR just regular ol startx
[02:34] <Shocka311> if nobody knows does anyone know a support chanell that someone could help me edit and create partitions?
[02:34] <Asc> awilcox: Sounds like it.  Um, hmm.
[02:34] <will_I_am> !skype
[02:34] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[02:34] <awilcox> Asc, sounds like what?
[02:34] <Asc> X11 is crashing
[02:35] <Asc> I suppose you've tried restarting?
[02:35] <Pickles> I was thinking about setting up a ubuntu fileserver, but the only two options presented in the ubuntu server install were LAMP and DNS. any recomendations?
[02:36] <emacla> How do i remove a directory from a USB-memory stick trought the Terminal?
[02:36] <kitche> Pickles: install LAMP if you wish then install Samba
[02:36] <awilcox> Asc, hmm
[02:36] <emacla> How do i remove a directory from a USB-memory stick trought the Terminal?
[02:36] <AidanL> Despite doiing sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i am still getting the error.
[02:37] <Asc> awilcox, try tail ~/.xsession-errors and see if anything interesting comes out
[02:37] <kitche> emacla: sudo rmdir <dir> or rm -r <dir>
[02:37] <AidanL> Anyone have any ideas?
[02:38] <noldon> whats the different between ubuntu dapper and ubuntu breezy
[02:38] <kitche> noldon: breezy has older software
[02:38] <emacla> kitche: Says, directory is not empty. I know. But i want to remove all the files in it too.
[02:38] <noldon> ok
[02:38] <kitche> emacla: with what rmdir?
[02:38] <Phlosten> AidanL, only 1 graphics card?
[02:38] <AidanL> YEs
[02:38] <Pickles> can samba be installed on the desktop version of ubuntu?
[02:38] <kitche> emacla: you want the rm -r <dir> one then
[02:39] <kitche> Pickles: yes
[02:39] <dom_> can someone help me with me WIFI connection? *please*
[02:39] <AidanL> I have onboard but they are off by auto if a PCI-E is inserted. Which it is.
[02:39] <Phlosten> emacla, try rm -rf <dir>
[02:39] <violot> dom_, what kind of card do you have?
[02:39] <violot> I MIGHT be able to help
[02:39] <violot> My knowledge is limited :P
[02:40] <dom_> generic offbrand.  it works in freespire
[02:40] <kitche> Phlosten: rm -r does the same thing and helps if he types rm -rf in the wrong folder
[02:40] <dom_> atheros chipset
[02:40] <Phlosten> kitche, indeed
[02:40] <violot> Did you search the wiki (aka, I don't know :P)
[02:40] <violot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:40] <pickles_> kitche, thanks
[02:40] <AidanL> I am assuming my problem lies with my graphics card?
[02:40] <dom_> yeah, no help...
[02:41] <violot> dom_, Or post in the Wireless & Networking forum on Ubuntuforums.org
[02:41] <dom_> i was really hoping to get this resolved right now though
[02:41] <auTONYmous> dom_: does the card show up at all?
[02:41] <dom_> yeah
[02:41] <dom_> it shows up and i'm connected to the AP
[02:42] <auTONYmous> hmm...
[02:42] <jevangelo> everyone going to have a happy new year?
[02:42] <dom_> but i can't ping anything, google, the router, localhost, NOTHING
[02:42] <auTONYmous> what's "iwconfig" give you?
[02:42] <dom_> shows the ESSID and the mac of the AP (that's how i know i'm connected)
[02:43] <auTONYmous> dom_ do you have "link quality" and "bit rate"???
[02:43] <dom_> link quality = 52/94 and bit rate = 54mb/s
[02:43] <Phlosten> AidanL, what is your graphics card?
[02:43] <auTONYmous> dom_: and "ifconfig" gives you an IP address?
[02:43] <dom_> yup
[02:44] <dom_> 192.168.2.3
[02:44] <auTONYmous> what's your router IP?
[02:44] <dom_> 192.168.2.1
[02:44] <Asc> awilcox, Anything?
[02:44] <auTONYmous> are you still connected to your wired port?
[02:44] <awilcox> Asc same ol same ol
[02:44] <AidanL> I have an x800 PCI-E
[02:44] <AidanL> (ATI)
[02:44] <dom_> no, but i can be
[02:44] <Asc> bugger
[02:44] <dom_> i'm on my laptop right now
[02:44] <auTONYmous> no, don't...stay wireless
[02:44] <dom_> ok
[02:44] <Phlosten> AidanL, what driver are you using?
[02:45] <Asc> awilcox, try tail ~/.xsession-errors and tail /var/log/daemon.log, see if anything interesting comes out
[02:45] <AidanL> On what? Ubuntu?
[02:45] <AidanL> Or on Windows?
[02:45] <Phlosten> AidanL, Ubuntu
[02:45] <AidanL> I havn't installed a driver yet... I haven't been able to get on to install one.
[02:45] <auTONYmous> dom_: dhcp or static?
[02:45] <dom_> dhcp
[02:45] <awilcox> Asc okay
[02:46] <dom_> actually, i've tried both... dhcp right now
[02:46] <Phlosten> AidanL, dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg would have specified a driver, do you remember what it was?
[02:46] <AidanL> No I shall do it again
[02:46] <auTONYmous> dom_: any other computers on that router?
[02:46] <dom_> my lappy (this one)
[02:46] <awilcox> Asc yep something interesting
[02:46] <dom_> also connected wirelessly
[02:46] <Phlosten> AidanL, at a guess it is probably guessing the wrong one
[02:46] <awilcox> .xsession-errors was basically empty, only one line
[02:46] <awilcox> but /var/log/daemon.log
[02:46] <dom_> + dhcp
[02:47] <awilcox> oh BOY daemon.log:
[02:47] <AidanL> It picked it up as an x800
[02:47] <auTONYmous> dom_: did you lock down the router config? (I.E. MAC filtering or something?)
[02:47] <awilcox> Asc: Dec 31 20:38:19 localhost kdm_greet[4894] : Can't open default user face
[02:47] <Phlosten> AidanL, can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[02:47] <dom_> yes, of course, but the mac address is whitelisted
[02:47] <awilcox> Asc: Dec 31 20:38:19 localhost kdm_greet[4894] : Internal error: memory corruption detected
[02:47] <auTONYmous> okay...
[02:47] <AidanL> If I can access it...
[02:47] <awilcox> oops
[02:47] <Phlosten> AidanL, what driver is reconfigure suggesting?
[02:48] <awilcox> actually the timestap for that last one should be 20:39:47
[02:48] <awilcox> then
[02:48] <ozzloy> my system says there are updates, but the packages can't be authenticated.  how do troubleshoot getting the keys for the packages???
[02:48] <awilcox> Dec 31 20:39:48 localhost kdm[4817] : X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly
[02:48] <Asc> I'm gonna go with 'hmm'
[02:48] <AidanL> Phlosten: One moment
[02:48] <awilcox> Dec 31 20:39:51 localhost kdm_greet[4946] : Can't open default user face
[02:48] <awilcox> Asc, you mean, you can't help EITHER?!
[02:49] <awilcox> Shall I run another MemTest86+?
[02:49] <auTONYmous> dom_: turn off the blacklisting for a minute and see if that helps
[02:49] <AidanL> X server driver: the selected one is ATI
[02:49] <awilcox> Asc, another thing
[02:49] <AidanL> Which it what it is so I press OK
[02:49] <Asc> awilcox, not just yet
[02:49] <dom_> auTONYmous: tried it earlier
[02:49] <auTONYmous> no luck?
[02:49] <Gunnar> Q: Anyone haveing trouble with OpenGL  (nvidia)  error : Couldn't open OpenGL Subsystem ( Game is tremulous ).
[02:49] <dom_> auTONYmous: nope
[02:49] <auTONYmous> using WEP or WPA?
[02:50] <dom_> WEP
[02:50] <awilcox> Asc it's a 2000MHz processor OCed to 2050MHz (yes only 50MHz more), running at 35 celsius, 94 fahrenheit
[02:50] <awilcox> too hot?
[02:50] <Phlosten> AidanL, as a test i would change that to 'vesa'
[02:50] <auTONYmous> OHHH....
[02:50] <AidanL> Then it identifies it as ATI TECHNOLOGIES, Inc. R423 UK [Radeon x800SE (PCI-E)] 
[02:50] <dom_> auTONYmous: i don't think it's a router problem, as i can connect my laptop fine, i can connect my desktop fine in freespire, and right now, i can't even ping 127.0.0.1
[02:50] <Asc> awilcox: Although it's true to say that I doubt I can help.  I'm so far out of my depth the fish have lanterns on.  But I can thrash around a little more.
[02:50] <gRaCiOsO> i started ssh and im trying to test it but when it ask me for a password and i put it it says gracioso@darkthrone:~$ ssh karla@189.174.90.100
[02:50] <gRaCiOsO> karla@189.174.90.100's password:
[02:50] <gRaCiOsO> Permission denied, please try again.
[02:50] <auTONYmous> dom_: get "Network Manager"...
[02:50] <dom_> auTONYmous: got it
[02:50] <Asc> awilcox, I think that should be okay
[02:50] <gRaCiOsO> anyone know why ?
[02:50] <auTONYmous> .0.6.3?
[02:50] <auTONYmous> (version number)
[02:50] <dom_> auTONYmous: i've tried configuring w/ the gui, configuring from command line... nothing helps...
[02:51] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: you are typing the wrong password
[02:51] <gRaCiOsO> after 3 times it says Permission denied (publickey,password).
[02:51] <AidanL> Pholsten I will select that. For the rest of the reconfigure do I leave it as the default entries?
[02:51] <Phlosten> AidanL, yeah, should be fine to leave defaults
[02:51] <pchilds> Is there an unofficial support site for edgy like dapper has?
[02:52] <Asc> awilcox: I'm doing a search on that error.  It's returned a few results, so maybe someone more knowledgeable than I has recorded how to fix it
[02:52] <awilcox> Asc, is there an advanced support?  a level II?  #ubuntu-reallyhardquestions ?
[02:52] <Phlosten> AidanL, every card should work with vesa, except the performance will suck, but it will confirm whether it is driver or not
[02:52] <auTONYmous> dom_: well, if you're getting and IP assigned, then you're getting past WEP and MAC filtering...
[02:52] <gRaCiOsO> ozzloy,  i created the user with that password
[02:52] <dom_> auTONYmous: ...right...
[02:52] <gRaCiOsO> i used openssh to do it
[02:52] <AidanL> Another Fatal error. Although it did come up with some pixels at the top of the screen then they quickly disappeared.
[02:52] <ozzloy> awilcox: there is paid support available from ubuntu
[02:52] <cypruser> How do I install a .tar.gz that I downladed?
[02:52] <awilcox> ozzloy oh geez
[02:52] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: caps-lock?
[02:52] <Asc> awilcox: Not that I know of.
[02:53] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: numlock?
[02:53] <auTONYmous> dom_: and nm-applet is showing connected?
[02:53] <gRaCiOsO> dont understand
[02:53] <dom_> yup
[02:53] <auTONYmous> dom_: ping your own IP
[02:53] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: make sure that the capslock is in the same state as when you set the password
[02:53] <dom_> can't
[02:54] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: the password is case sensitive
[02:54] <Asc> awilcox: you're using the fglxr driver?
[02:54] <AidanL> The fatal error reads: Could not open default font 'fixed' XIO fatal error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 resquests (0known processed) with 0 events remaining. xauth: error in locking authority file /home/aidan/.Xauthority
[02:54] <awilcox> Asc, no clue
[02:54] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: and if the num-lock is in a different state, that can also make the typing come out differently than you expect
[02:54] <Phlosten> AidanL, what ubuntu version is this?
[02:54] <dom_> auTONYmous: 100% packet loss
[02:54] <awilcox> Asc how to check?
[02:55] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: try going to the original machine and signing in with the username/password you are trying to use with ssh
[02:55] <dom_> auTONYmous: when i ping localhost -> "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted"
[02:55] <AidanL> 6.10 - (Alternate download) as I had major problems with the main normal download.
[02:55] <Asc> awilcox: Hrrm.  Was there anything on the line in ~.xsession-errors
[02:55] <dannydrifffft> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 6.10. I put the cd in, restart the computer, I get the ubuntu loading screen, and once it gets loaded, I just get an orange screen and everything looks a little choppy. I don't even get a screen asking me what to do. Could it just be that my hardware is not compatible?
[02:55] <auTONYmous> dom_: never seen THAT before...
[02:55] <gRaCiOsO> ozzloy, i tryied it with 2 users i created but dont accept the password when i test ssh it says permission denied and after 3 times it says Permission denied (publickey,password).
[02:55] <Phlosten> AidanL, yes, i am fairly sure your card isnt supported by the included ATI driver
[02:55] <AidanL> O
[02:55] <dom_> auTONYmous: i know, right? it's insane....
[02:56] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: that's what happens for me when i type the pw wrong.  or maybe the username is wrong?
[02:56] <AidanL> I see... Ubuntu 5.1 worked ok. Although that had to be uninstalled as my wireless adaptor wasn't compatible. So... Where do I go from here do you think?
[02:56] <dom_> auTONYmous: i'd chalk it up to a hardware issue... except that it works perfectly in freespire
[02:56] <auTONYmous> dom_: are you using some firewalling?
[02:56] <dom_> iptables is installed but i have no rules setup
[02:56] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: other than that i wouldn't know what could cause that behavior
[02:56] <Phlosten> AidanL, sounds like you may want to do some manual tweaking of your xorg.conf file
[02:57] <awilcox> Asc that line just said Xsession started at blah....
[02:57] <Asc> awilcox:  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep fglxr
[02:57] <Asc> Okay.
[02:57] <awilcox> I just have glx
[02:57] <AidanL> How do I access that... I hate to sound thick...
[02:57] <auTONYmous> dom_: I assume you're PLANNING to use it...
[02:57] <Phlosten> AidanL, a bit hard when you dont have a desktop
[02:57] <awilcox> NO glxr just glx
[02:57] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: do you have physical access to the machine you are trying to ssh to?
[02:57] <dom_> auTONYmous: and if i setup eth0 (the hardline) i can ping around and do whatever
[02:57] <AidanL> Yeah, it makes sense lol.
[02:57] <Phlosten> AidanL, you have a terminal prompt open?
[02:57] <AidanL> Yeah it is on screen now.
[02:57] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: also, paste the line you are using to try to use to ssh
[02:58] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: paste it here, that is
[02:58] <gRaCiOsO> ssh karla@189.174.90.100
[02:58] <auTONYmous> dom_: stumper...truly
[02:58] <Asc> awilcox: ls -lo / | grep /tmp and tell me what the permissions on your /tmp directory are
[02:58] <dom_> auTONYmous: damnit
[02:58] <gRaCiOsO> ozzloy,  i opened it in my own machine and im only testing it
[02:59] <auTONYmous> dom_: hang on...
[02:59] <dom_> auTONYmous: i even tried deleting /etc/networking/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf in an effort to start fresh
[02:59] <Phlosten> AidanL, type 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[02:59] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: do you mean you are trying to ssh from one machine to itself?
[02:59] <AidanL> Command not found.
[03:00] <gRaCiOsO> ozzloy,  yes
[03:00] <AidanL> that is what I am getting. I am probably doing something wrong...
[03:00] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: that's not a normal use of ssh, i'll try it here and see what happens
[03:00] <tag> when I attempt to run rdesktop, I get "Major opcode of failed request:  78 (X_CreateColormap)"
[03:00] <tag> and more
[03:00] <gRaCiOsO> ozzloy,  ok
[03:01] <Crashzor> iedereen een fijne avond
[03:01] <Asc> awilcox ping
[03:01] <auTONYmous> dom_: try this:
[03:01] <auTONYmous> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=356487
[03:01] <entel> hi, how i can see "" and "" in console, ..I see only "?"
[03:02] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: it works here
[03:02] <Phlosten> AidanL, try just 'nano'
[03:02] <elyon> Well, I'm back with another stupid noob question.  I recently installed the latest ATI video drivers and now my performance in games is 10x worse than it was BEFORE installing them... any ideas?
[03:02] <elyon> I know ATI driver support sucks in Linux, but there's got to be some way to make it workable...
[03:02] <AidanL> Phlosten - nano: command not found
[03:02] <Phlosten> AidanL, ok, you dont have nano, its a text editor
[03:02] <gRaCiOsO> ozzloy,  i do gracioso@darkthrone:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[03:02] <gRaCiOsO>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [ ok ] 
[03:02] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: using the same username and password.  the fact that it gets to the part where it asks for a password means that it's connecting
[03:02] <AidanL> I see...
[03:03] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: you shouldn't have to do that
[03:03] <entel> AidanL, sudo apt-get install nano
[03:03] <Phlosten> AidanL, which is odd, as it is a default installed package
[03:03] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:03] <AidanL> It failed on the installing software bit. Perhaps that would explain it... :$
[03:03] <gRaCiOsO> i installed
[03:03] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: that will take care of starting the server for you.  did you install it that way?
[03:03] <Phlosten> AidanL, ah right, that might explain the font error too, it might be missing something
[03:03] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: and you are connecting, the server is running, otherwise it wouldn't even get to the point of asking for a pw
[03:03] <awilcox> Sorry Asc
[03:04] <AidanL> Nano has opened
[03:04] <Phlosten> AidanL, try running this 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[03:04] <ozzloy> Phlosten: paradise? 5th element?
[03:04] <awilcox> my neighbors keep lighting fireworks and I'm afraid it's going to catch my car and/or house on fire
[03:04] <entel> how i can see "" and "" in console, ..I see only "?"
[03:04] <awilcox> because the sparks are REALLY close
[03:04] <Phlosten> ozzloy, yeah ;)
[03:04] <Asc> They probably won't
[03:04] <awilcox> Asc ls -lo / | grep /tmp came up nothing
[03:04] <elyon> ...also, Add/Remove is telling me that my list of available applications is out of date EVERY time I run it... this is new.  I've done apt-get reload but it still tells me this.  Anyone know why?
[03:04] <AidanL> Pholsten Will do. By the way I really do appriciate the help :)
[03:04] <Phlosten> ozzloy, although with a 'Ph' instead of 'F'
[03:05] <gRaCiOsO> yeah i installed openssh-server then i do sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start then i try to test it with my own user doing ssh user@ip then when it asks for password it say permission denied and after 3 times it says Permission denied (publickey,password). and i dont know why
[03:05] <Asc> we had one of those big shell-type ones explode on a tomato plant once and it was fine
[03:05] <jleemc44> Im running ubuntu live cd and cant mount the hard drive on my dell laptop, any ideas pros?
[03:05] <ozzloy> Phlosten: word
[03:05] <awilcox> Asc yipes
[03:05] <Phlosten> AidanL, ubuntu-desktop is a meta package that will instead all the base ubuntu install, so if you are missing something it should fix it up
[03:05] <awilcox> Asc anyways should ls -lo / | grep /tmp come up anything?
[03:05] <Asc> after that we learned to use clamps if we wanted to set off more than one at the same time
[03:05] <Phlosten> instead=install
[03:05] <AidanL> Yeah it is installing it now. Thanks alot:). Lets hope it works. Fingers crossed:)
[03:06] <dom_> auTONYmous: no dice
[03:06] <Asc> awilcox: Well, if it returns nothing you probably don't have a /tmp directory
[03:06] <dom_> auTONYmous: deleted EVERY rule, still no ping action
[03:06] <awilcox> Asc I do
[03:06] <elyon> grrr... now Firefox won't even run.  What the hell is wrong with this OS??
[03:06] <awilcox> ls /tmp returns things
[03:06] <AidanL> Phlosten: I will inform once it is done. It is 10% now lol.
[03:06] <awilcox> elyon, calm down, what does Firefox do?
[03:06] <Phlosten> AidanL, haha, its missing a few bits then ;)
[03:06] <Asc> 0_o er, hrm
[03:06] <awilcox> Asc even a .X11-unix file in /tmp
[03:06] <elyon> lol it says "Starting Firefox" then nothing... just ends.
[03:07] <gRaCiOsO> ozzloy, yeah i installed openssh-server then i do sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start then i try to test it with my own user doing ssh user@ip then when it asks for password it say permission denied and after 3 times it says Permission denied (publickey,password). and i dont know why
[03:07] <awilcox> elyon
[03:07] <Asc> awilcox, try cd /;ls -lo | grep tmp
[03:07] <AidanL> Lol. I am sorry to put you through hell lol
[03:07] <awilcox> elyon attempt to start it from the terminal
[03:07] <AidanL> O dear...
[03:07] <jleemc44> where should I start in troubleshooting my problem? The harddrive will not mount
[03:07] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: you shouldn't have to do sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[03:07] <gRaCiOsO> why?
[03:07] <awilcox> Asc okay
[03:07] <AidanL> 28% buffer I/O error on devide hda, logic block 723
[03:07] <elyon> awilcox - that just does the same thing.
[03:08] <awilcox> Asc drwxrwxrwt  6 root  1024 2006-12-31 20:39 tmp
[03:08] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: the apt-get install takes care of that.  but that's a side issue, it's not affecting the current problem
[03:08] <awilcox> elyon, it gives NO errors on stdio?
[03:08] <elyon> stdio?
[03:08] <awilcox> elyon, sorry geeky term, the command line
[03:08] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: paste the entire thing at http://rafb.net/paste
[03:08] <AidanL> Although now we have jumped to 33% and going up now :S
[03:08] <elyon> awilcox, ah.  Nope... nothing on the command line at all.
[03:08] <awilcox> elyon for full info (you have no browser haha) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/stdio
[03:09] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: then paste the resulting url here
[03:10] <imbecile> does anyone ever get a steady download rate on amule?
[03:10] <elyon> awilcox - should I try to reinstall it with Synaptic?
[03:10] <gRaCiOsO> ozzloy,  http://rafb.net/p/XtGFjf68.html
[03:10] <imbecile> maybe i'm thinking maybe im firewalled or something
[03:10] <awilcox> elyon sure
[03:11] <awilcox> yay!  neighbors went home without catching the Ford on fire!  rejoice!  :P
[03:11] <awilcox> anyways back to Ubuntu matters
[03:11] <awilcox> how much does Canonical or whoever charge for paid support?
[03:11] <Asc> awilcox: starting to run out of ideas, but I've got maybe two left
[03:11] <awilcox> and will they refund it if they can't help me
[03:12] <awilcox> AND will they not just say "reinstall it" and charge $255 like Micro$loth?
[03:12] <elyon> awilcox - nope... does the same thing after reinstalling.
[03:12] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: i notice you are sshing specifying the name karla, but the command prompt shows your name as gracioso
[03:12] <Asc> awilcox: Are you trying to use xgl?
[03:12] <awilcox> Asc no
[03:12] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: try ssh gracioso@189...
[03:12] <awilcox> Just regular old peace-loving Xorg with default stuff
[03:12] <Zancat_Ubuntu> !packages
[03:12] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[03:12] <Asc> brain made out of hurtings
[03:13] <awilcox> like I said, I fiddled with Xorg.conf a little, so do you want me to pastebin it?
[03:13] <dom_> auTONYmous: did you leave and now come back with an idea?
[03:13] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: and use the password for that user
[03:13] <elyon> awilcox - are there error logs somewhere that I can look to fix Firefox?
[03:13] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: also, don't do sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start any more
[03:13] <awilcox> elyon not that I'm aware of; except things like /var/log/daemon.log and stuff like that (and tail | dmesg)
[03:13] <auTONYmous> dom_: pm
[03:14] <gRaCiOsO> http://rafb.net/p/1PAW9g95.html
[03:14] <Asc> elyon, most of the logs are in /var/log
[03:14] <Asc> and some in ~/.xsession-errors as well
[03:14] <awilcox> will anybody LOOK if I pastebin Xorg.conf?
[03:14] <gRaCiOsO> ozzloy,  http://rafb.net/p/1PAW9g95.html
[03:14] <jleemc44> "pmount hda1" gives the error "device /dev/hda1 is not removable" what is up with that????? A little help please
[03:14] <elyon> Why the heck would it just STOP working like that?
[03:15] <Asc> I will, not that it'll do me much good
[03:15] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: that is exactly the behavior i get when i type the password incorrectly.  it stops accepting passwords after 3 tries to keep people from trying billions until they get the right one
[03:15] <Asc> Although I'd love to know how you're using pastebin from the terminal
[03:15] <elyon> awilcox - In System Monitor, it reports that "firefox-bin" is "Sleeping"
[03:15] <elyon> Should I try stopping that?
[03:15] <jbroome> don't wake it
[03:15] <gRaCiOsO> ozzloy,  im typing the correct password im just using that user
[03:16] <awilcox> elyon, type into terminal: sudo killall -9 firefox-bin
[03:16] <awilcox> Asc, well there IS lynx/w3c
[03:16] <awilcox> but
[03:16] <awilcox> I will have to type it in manually
[03:16] <awilcox> this could take a half an hour
[03:16] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: at the shell type passwd
[03:16] <awilcox> another thing
[03:16] <ozzloy> it will ask for your current password
[03:16] <awilcox> if I do sudo Xorg
[03:16] <Asc> awilcox: don't try it then
[03:16] <ozzloy> gRaCiOsO: ^
[03:17] <AidanL> Phlosten: It has finished. Although Failed to fetch cdrom: [Ubuntu 6.10 _edgy eft_ release 1386 (20061025.1] /pool/main/g/gcj-41/libgcj7-0_4.1.1-14ubunutu7_1386.deb MD5Sum mismatch
[03:17] <awilcox> It doesn't crash, but looks yucky, with R/G/B lines all through the display, and it looks curled
[03:17] <awilcox> but it DID come on
[03:17] <awilcox> OH NO!
[03:17] <__mikem> !netsplit
[03:17] <neuro_> woof
[03:17] <awilcox> Netsplit taking 555 users down FTL
[03:18] <Phlosten> AidanL, sounds like your cd might have had a problem
[03:18] <awilcox> oh GOD...It took Asc!
[03:19] <awilcox> Wait a minute, I'M on zelazny
[03:19] <awilcox> why wasn't I splitted?
[03:19] <crimsun> that's netsplit semantics.
[03:20] <godess> I need help in setting up a DXG dv movie camara
[03:20] <__mikem> crimsun, I have never been splitted once in the year I have been a part of this comunity
[03:20] <crimsun> it doesn't reveal -which- server split off; everyone will appear to have split from irc.fn from your perspective
[03:20] <awilcox> Actually crimsun it says split from zelazny TO irc.fn
[03:21] <awilcox> but I'M on zelazny.
[03:21] <godess> help
[03:21] <crimsun> awilcox, that's intentional.
[03:21] <awilcox> Oh.
[03:21] <awilcox> Is there another channel that could help me with my really complicated problem?
[03:22] <awilcox> I've stumped everyone in here....
[03:22] <AidanL> Interesting...
[03:22] <awilcox> Welcome back from the netsplit y'all!
[03:22] <awilcox> How was it in cyberspace with no IRC server to call home?  :P
[03:23] <JockeTF> Urrgh
[03:23] <jevangelo> there we go
[03:23] <dom_> and destination "default" going through 192.168.2.1
[03:23] <awilcox> Argh
[03:23] <AidanL> Why is this happening?
[03:23] <awilcox> the pure unadulteraded PG-13 horror of /connect flooding!
[03:23] <jevangelo> jeez
[03:24] <JockeTF> ooaaag
[03:24] <JockeTF> My head...
[03:24] <brianMan> ffs
[03:24] <con-man> <3 net splits
[03:24] <awilcox> !netsplit
[03:24] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[03:24] <brianMan> I wish they could leave out the quit spam on netsplits
[03:24] <godess> wow
[03:24] <awilcox> brianMan yes
[03:24] <jevangelo> 3 way netsplits are more fun
[03:24] <con-man> <3 net splits
[03:24] <con-man> <3 net splits
[03:24] <con-man> <3 net splits
[03:24] <con-man> <3 net splits
[03:24] <awilcox> Asc, back from the split yet?
[03:24] <DBO> con-man, no spam please
[03:24] <__mikem> con-man, watch it
[03:24] <AidanL> I am having this problem -Failed to fetch cdrom: [Ubuntu 6.10 _edgy eft_ release 1386 (20061025.1] /pool/main/g/gcj-41/libgcj7-0_4.1.1-14ubunutu7_1386.deb MD5Sum mismatch
[03:24] <elyon> awilcox - Just to let you know, Firefox just decided to start working again... go figure.
[03:24] <awilcox> jevangelo, THREE WAY?  yipes
[03:25] <Asc> awilcox, it's a long shot but you might try installing xdm and trying to log in from there
[03:25] <con-man> Im sorry
[03:25] <con-man> :'(
[03:25] <DarthLappy> brianMan: irssi does.  Doesn't always eat the join spam though.
[03:25] <awilcox> DarthLappy!
[03:25] <awilcox> DarthLappy yeah irssi ate the quit but not the connect
[03:25] <DarthLappy> Hallo.
[03:25] <JockeTF> Well, it is time for me to sleep now, oyasuminasai and happy new year!
[03:25] <awilcox> DarthLappy I haven't seen you for ages, quick go to #AWOS now!
[03:25] <godess> now can anyone help me out?
[03:25] <Asc> I don't know about this one, but there were at least three seperate servers
[03:25] <Asc> I'm guessing more like five
[03:26] <awilcox> Happy New Year JockeTF and goodnight
[03:26] <awilcox> Asc wow really?
[03:26] <brianMan> DarthLappy That irssi doesn't show the quit/join spam doesn't mean it doesn't still get the data (which lags some people off) :(
[03:26] <_TsU_> what time is it there? :)
[03:26] <DarthLappy> brianMan: That's true.  But there has to be some way...
[03:26] <Asc> awilcox: I joined a second server while it was out.  The one I was on had 109 people, and the one I joined had 169.  So there were at least three, and probably more.
[03:26] <awilcox> _TsU_ here it is 21:26
[03:26] <awilcox> Asc wow.
[03:27] <DarthLappy> (To get the data to the users)
[03:27] <cafuego_> Did you really want 800 people telling you the time?
[03:27] <awilcox> cafuego_ hahaha
[03:27] <brianMan> DarthLappy: I'm sure it's possible to make the server silently remove people when it's a netsplit and silently rejoin them on merge
[03:27] <_TsU_> awilcox, here we are 1/1/2007 and it's 3;27am :)
[03:27] <awilcox> _TsU_ well happy new year :)
[03:28] <jevangelo> if you join 2 or more servers during a netsplit
[03:28] <_TsU_> ty, u 2 :)
[03:28] <jevangelo> and they join back together again, does that cause a nick collision?
[03:28] <brianMan> Maybe not on a default IRC server, but I'm sure there's some brilliant coders who can modify the Freenode servers to handle it more elegantly :(
[03:28] <imbecile> does anyone ever get a steady download rate on amule?
[03:28] <cafuego_> brianMan: It's a matter of making your irc client not list splits
[03:28] <imbecile> maybe i'm thinking maybe im firewalled or something
[03:28] <QwertyM> how do I configure my MPlayer to play avi etc? it says cant render all the time. Totem and Xine btw, run excellent!
[03:28] <genericuser> so, what exactly makes netsplit so common? is IRC flawed?
[03:29] <awilcox> Asc I will try XDM now, thanks
[03:29] <kitche> DarthLappy: you you can ignore joins which I do
[03:29] <Asc> awilcox: Everybody else having this problem either has their /tmp permissions set wrong, or is using glx
[03:29] <absurdhero> hey, there doesn't seem to be a package with man pages for the standard C library
[03:29] <absurdhero> if anyone knows of one, please enlighten me
[03:29] <cafuego_> absurdhero: manpages-dev
[03:29] <alienseer23> hello, can anybody here help me with azureus?
[03:29] <DarthLappy> kitche: I wasn't complaining anyway.  I think brianMan's point is that each client stilll recieves the quit/join data whether they ignore or not.
[03:29] <Asc> awilcox: My final guess would be that maybe KDE doesn't know where the /tmp directory is.
[03:29] <brianMan> cafuego: As I said to DarthLappy that doesn't keep the data from being sent to your IRC client. The massive ammount of data your client suddenly recieves (whether it shows it or not) can lags some people off, which also happens to be one of the ways bot attacks work
[03:29] <awilcox> absurdhero I believe it is already installed, try man printf
[03:30] <absurdhero> no, its not
[03:30] <cafuego_> brianMan: Well, not using a sucky client to begin with would help ;-)
[03:30] <cafuego_> absurdhero: Yes, it is.
[03:30] <absurdhero> thanks cafuego, that worked
[03:30] <cafuego_> oic :-)
[03:30] <brianMan> cafuego: That's purely a question of individual taste and something we could argue for an eternity which client is the better ;)
[03:30] <absurdhero> I would have thought glibc-doc would have included those. Interesting. Well, thanks again
[03:31] <cafuego_> awilcox: printf is also a builtin
[03:31] <imbecile> anybody know how to maximize amules u/l-d/l rate? I can never get a steady connection
[03:31] <awilcox> cafuego_ oh :)
[03:31] <QwertyM> Mplayer says this : FATAL: Couldn't initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo)
[03:31] <cafuego_> brianMan: Well, coping with data sent to it would be a good start <heh>
[03:31] <QwertyM> when I try playing a avi
[03:31] <EvilMike> I'm having a weird problem with my mouse, the sensitivity settings are kind of off, since low sensitivity seems to make the mouse pointer move faster, and if acceleration is off, the mouse moves at a painfully slow speed regardless of sensitivity
[03:32] <brianMan> cafuego: mIRC handles it very well ;) (well, except for the spam is annoying to watch) other than that I don't complain ;)
[03:32] <imbecile> QwertyM, why dont you just use vlc player? it doesnt use codecs and is really reliable
[03:32] <ootput> hi guys, i can't seem to make openbox --replace stick b/w sessions
[03:32] <QwertyM> imbecile, thats right but am trying to write up some tests between the other video players, so need this one to play :)
[03:33] <ootput> atm, neither metacity nor openbox are active
[03:33] <ootput> and it's quite hard for me to click into an input field
[03:33] <imbecile> QwertyM, ok
[03:34] <elyon> QwertM - you could use Automatix2 to automatically setup all your codecs for you (it lets you use any player to view all video formats (even Windows ones)
[03:34] <awilcox> !automatix
[03:34] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:34] <Asc> awilcox: Somebody said this about the error messages: "The message relates to KDM's icon view during login but that isn't Ubuntu's default--did you manually edit the configuration files to turn that on?"
[03:34] <awilcox> QwertyM read that ^  as in, DON'T.
[03:34] <awilcox> Asc no
[03:34] <jevangelo> what would be the difference of hosting a webserver on ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server
[03:34] <awilcox> Asc I didn't do that
[03:34] <elyon> awilcox - hehe, where was that when this channel suggested it to me? lol
[03:34] <elyon> Of course, I haven't had any problems with it at all.
[03:34] <awilcox> jevangelo, desktop comes with KDE/GNOME, server is just text-mode
[03:35] <awilcox> elyon hehe
[03:35] <QwertyM> elyon, awilcox I have all codecs installed, gstreamer, win32 etc, all players are doing great except this one lol
[03:35] <QwertyM> if automatix can fix that I am glad
[03:35] <awilcox> Hmm.
[03:35] <jevangelo> so, no standby modes or anything will cause disruption?
[03:35] <Asc> awilcox: Have you got any other DTEs or WMs you can try logging in to?
[03:35] <awilcox> Asc no
[03:35] <kitche> QwertyM: type in groups in a terminal and see what group your in
[03:35] <jevangelo> just loss of hardware resources because of the x guis?
[03:35] <awilcox> I'm on nice comfy Cable Internet (7Mbps!  yeah!) so I could download all of them
[03:35] <awilcox> Asc should I?
[03:36] <elyon> Well, everyone (especially awilcox), thanks for all your help.  I'm sure I'll be back again as I try to tackle this beast :P
[03:36] <QwertyM> can some mplayer user say the settings on Prefrences > Codecs & Demixers ?
[03:36] <Asc> awilcox: No, not really.  They might work though, if the problem is with KDE.
[03:36] <awilcox> elyon :)  np
[03:36] <ozzloy> my system has updates that can't be authenticated, how do i trouble shoot that??
[03:36] <elyon> Moving my family from WinXP to Ubuntu has been interesting to say the least.
[03:36] <QwertyM> kitche, says "qwerty adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin"
[03:36] <awilcox> elyon I just did that too
[03:36] <jevangelo> anyone know what im talking about?
[03:36] <awilcox> elyon even my Grandma likes Ubuntu more than XP, she is *SICK* of Bill Gates :)
[03:36] <kitche> QwertM hmm ok that's correct
[03:36] <elyon> lol
[03:37] <jevangelo> any difference in readily available software through synaptic?
[03:37] <jevangelo> with both
[03:37] <elyon> My mother, who is COMPLETELY computer illiterate ("Where's the power button?") doesn't have a problem with Ubuntu either.
[03:37] <awilcox> elyon hehe
[03:37] <awilcox> elyon, well my grandma isn't illiterate, she did programming in DOS
[03:37] <EvilMike> What can I do to directly edit mouse sensitivity (the utility that comes with ubuntu isnt really working for me)?
[03:38] <genericuser> EvilMike: hit your mouse with a hammer :-P
[03:39] <EvilMike> That would be entertaining.
[03:39] <hassan2a> slt tout le monde
[03:39] <dmc_> Network and EtherApe GUI apps in Gnome are not responsive anymore and force quit after clicking on them....Any suggestions for troubleshooting?
[03:40] <awilcox> genericuser, EvilMike hahahaha
[03:40] <tripppy> is it 07 everywhere now?
[03:40] <tyme-> no
[03:40] <genericuser> tripppy: not in the states
[03:40] <tyme-> 2 more hours
[03:40] <awilcox> here 12/31/2006 21:40
[03:40] <tyme-> us east coast
[03:40] <dmc_> trippy:no...
[03:40] <jbroome> US is always behind. :P
[03:41] <tripppy> omg watch out for the y2k07 bug.
[03:41] <ozzloy> i'm in cali.  got 5 more hours of 2006
[03:41] <awilcox> trippy hahaha
[03:41] <awilcox> trippy: watch out for the Y10K bug!
[03:41] <awilcox> 9999+1=?
[03:41] <awilcox> :)
[03:41] <Gosha> my friend is running a VNC server and even set it on port 80 still i cant connect to it .. but i can ping his IP and get pings back
[03:41] <genericuser> tripppy: there'll be a patch on apt within 3 weeks :-P
[03:41] <imbecile> ozzloy, orange county here
[03:41] <tripppy> its 12hrrs into 07 and ive fucked 3 times
[03:41] <ozzloy> imbecile: san diego
[03:41] <ootput> hi guys, how do i get the run dialog without using the keyboard shortcut?
[03:41] <imbecile> nice
[03:41] <ootput> i'd like to add it to my panel
[03:42] <tripppy> this is going to be a good year
[03:42] <tyme-> your mom doesnt count =[
[03:42] <awilcox> ootput, ALT+F2
[03:42] <imbecile> lol
[03:42] <tripppy> if she counts it would be 4
[03:42] <awilcox> oh WITHOUT the keyboard
[03:42] <hassan2a> hi geeks
[03:42] <awilcox> ootput, K menu -> Run?
[03:42] <Asc> awilcox, I suppose you're dead set on running KDE?
[03:42] <arrenlex> KDE is life.
[03:42] <awilcox> Asc, yes, well this is my FRIEND's computer
[03:42] <czedlitz> eww
[03:42] <ootput> awilcox:  it's been taken out of gnome menu, i think
[03:42] <genericuser> meh, KDE is the minority
[03:42] <czedlitz> gnome is better
[03:42] <awilcox> KDE FTW.
[03:42] <dmc_> arrenlex: how would i go about installing KDE?
[03:43] <ootput> whip it out, and see who's biggest ;)
[03:43] <awilcox> I hate GNOME, it's too much like Vista+XP+Mac+FVWM in one
[03:43] <__mikem> XFCE for the win
[03:43] <awilcox> they all suck
[03:43] <ootput> to each their own
[03:43] <Asc> awilcox: I suppose he's dead set on running KDE?
[03:43] <awilcox> well Mac is okay
[03:43] <genericuser> KDE doesn't hide all the settings...
[03:43] <awilcox> Asc yes SHE is.
[03:43] <awilcox> :)
[03:43] <ozzloy> kde and gnome debates are pointless and irrelevent. .. gnome is the best.
[03:43] <dmc_> How would i go about installing KDE?
[03:43] <arrenlex> dmc_: KDE the desktop environment? KDE the application suite? Or Kubuntu the Linux distribution?
[03:43] <genericuser> dmc_: apt-get install kde
[03:43] <awilcox> ozzloy, I fully agree on pointless.  KDE is the best.
[03:43] <Asc> Hmm
[03:43] <dmc_> arrenlex: just the desktop
[03:43] <awilcox> dmc_ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:43] <ootput> of course, thunar is the better file manager
[03:43] <dom_> kde is klunky
[03:43] <ootput> so, xfce
[03:43] <arrenlex> dmc_: apt-get install kde-core
[03:43] <__mikem> no dmc, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:44] <genericuser> dmc_: how much of kde do you want?
[03:44] <ozzloy> awilcox: ;)
[03:44] <arrenlex> __mikem: Didn't he just say he didn't want the whole of kubuntu?
[03:44] <Asc> awilcox: I'm very short on ideas now.  One of them would be to reinstall.
[03:44] <dmc_> __mikem: whats kubuntu diff than ubuntu?
[03:44] <ootput> kde instead of gnome
[03:44] <ootput> hence the K
[03:44] <awilcox> Asc ahhhhhhh noooooo it takes forever to get the stupid hardware to work right
[03:44] <__mikem> dmc_ one uses kde other uses gnome
[03:44] <dmc_> ahhh i see
[03:44] <dmc_> as default install?
[03:44] <ootput> of course, the 'K' could also stand for 'Kiddy'
[03:44] <__mikem> yes
[03:44] <ozzloy> i love amarok, kde has that going for it
[03:44] <dmc_> wouldnt it be easier to just install the kde package?
[03:44] <awilcox> dmc_ Kubuntu means happiness, and Ubuntu means like humanity or something like that
[03:44] <genericuser> gah, mode +R?
[03:44] <ootput> what with all the fisher price colors ;)
[03:45] <awilcox> ozzloy yeah!
[03:45] <awilcox> GNOME was okay until recently, then they got that stupid idiotic bar placement
[03:45] <tehArtist> Hello
[03:45] <awilcox> In fact, I know something that pwns ALL graphic environment.
[03:45] <tehArtist> I could use some help
[03:45] <awilcox> Text mode ftrw!
[03:45] <ozzloy> how do i troubleshoot packages not being authenticated?
[03:45] <ootput> any of you know how to run two different wm's on a dual monitor setup?
[03:46] <genericuser> awilcox: without framebuffer too!
[03:46] <ootput> i don't need xinerama, or any thing of the sort
[03:46] <genericuser> ozzloy: run an apt-get update
[03:46] <genericuser> also, check your gpg keys
[03:46] <__mikem> !linspire
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linspire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <asdf_> easiest way to get mplayer + all codecs?
[03:46] <awilcox> __mikem hehehehe
[03:46] <ozzloy> genericuser: thank you!
[03:46] <awilcox> !mplayer
[03:46] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[03:47] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[03:47] <Asc> Where does KDE keep its' config files?
[03:47] <awilcox> asdf_ ^ read that.
[03:47] <asdf_> how do I enable multiverse repo?
[03:47] <asdf_> and what is it?
[03:47] <tehArtist> I have an HP Media Center M7160n, I'm attempting to install Ubuntu 6.10 edgy. When I boot the live CD, I have no keyboard support, so I attempted the alternative text based install, and It wants to know what disk drive driver I would like to use? Does anyone know which drive I should use for the Sata I 250GB drive?
[03:47] <awilcox> !multiverse | asdf_
[03:47] <ubotu> asdf_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:47] <ozzloy> genericuser: that was easy!  i was like "i grabbed the key, what am i doing wrong!  frustration!"
[03:47] <asdf_> !easye
[03:47] <asdf_> !easysource
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easye - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:47] <__mikem> awilcox, I resently come to posess a free copy of linspire 5-o
[03:47] <asdf_> !EasySource
[03:47] <genericuser> tehArtist: depends on your hard drive controller, not your actual drive
[03:47] <dmc_> Tenartist: is it a USB keyboard?
[03:47] <awilcox> Asc well
[03:47] <awilcox> Asc ~/kde/share/apps/...
[03:47] <tehArtist> No dmc_ thats whats odd
[03:47] <__mikem> I don't plan on using it. SO I don't know what to do with it
[03:48] <awilcox> Asc normally there
[03:48] <awilcox> oops
[03:48] <awilcox> .kde
[03:48] <genericuser> ozzloy: happened to me too :-\
[03:48] <awilcox> __mikem send it over here!  :)
[03:48] <tyme-> has anyone successfully installed ATI drivers on Ubuntu 6.10?
[03:48] <__mikem> awilcox, why would you use linspire when you have ubuntu?
[03:49] <tehArtist> genericuser, how do I go about choosing the proper HDD controller for an OEM?
[03:49] <genericuser> tehArtist: depends on your manufacturer - actually, if it wasn't auto-detected, you have problems
[03:49] <Asc> awilcox: As a last resort, you could maybe search through those for references to tmp and face and see if one is wrong, but that's really grasping at straws
[03:49] <tehArtist> Thats what I assumed
[03:50] <genericuser> tyme-: try apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx?
[03:50] <Asc> Gah, I need to get around to installing KDE so I can test this sort of thing
[03:50] <tyme-> genericuser:  it's already installed.
[03:50] <ozzloy> tripppy: you've fucked 3 times and now you're on an irc channel?
[03:50] <genericuser> tyme-: you edited xorg.conf to enable it?
[03:50] <asterias> italian?
[03:51] <tyme-> driver fglrx is in xorg.conf
[03:51] <ozzloy> tripppy: go back, get more!
[03:51] <genericuser> ozzloy: language...
[03:51] <genericuser> tyme-: is there a specific reason you need fglrx? did you follow the instructions on the fglrx wiki page?
[03:51] <tehArtist> Any other *nix Distro's that have a partition resizer made into the install?
[03:51] <ozzloy> genericuser: not mine, that's what tripppy said.
[03:51] <alex-weej> tehArtist: Ubuntu?!
[03:51] <genericuser> tehArtist: dunno
[03:51] <asterias> qualcuno parla italiano in chan?
[03:51] <ozzloy> genericuser: sorry though
[03:52] <genericuser> alex-weej: he said "other"
[03:52] <Asc> awilcox: To make searching easier you could do something like 'sudo find -t file -exec cat {} \; | grep tmp > ~/tempfile' and go through the file.
[03:52] <genericuser> tehArtist: MS Windows?
[03:52] <alex-weej> genericuser: oops i thought this was #gentoo
[03:52] <genericuser> :-P
[03:52] <Asc> better yet, grep /tmp
[03:52] <genericuser> alex-weej: common mistake? lol
[03:52] <Asc> (and run that in the .kde directory or it'll explode :p
[03:52] <dom_> i hate it when that happens
[03:53] <awilcox> Asc hmm?
[03:53] <tyme-> !fglrx
[03:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:53] <awilcox> Asc what do I do with that?
[03:53] <dom_> !?
[03:53] <Asc> awilcox: As a last resort, you could maybe search through those for references to tmp and face and see if one is wrong, but that's really grasping at straws
[03:53] <dom_> what's the ! for?
[03:53] <jbroome> !it | asterias
[03:53] <ubotu> asterias: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:54] <dom_> hmm
[03:54] <awilcox> Asc
[03:54] <awilcox> Asc it says
[03:54] <awilcox> find: invalid predicate `-t'
[03:54] <Asc> awilcox: But, yeah.  Let me know how xdm works out.
[03:54] <Asc> oh, okay
[03:55] <Asc> 'sudo find -type f -exec cat {} \; | grep tmp'
[03:55] <Asc> my bad
[03:55] <Asc> and > ~.tempfile
[03:55] <awilcox> tempfile is blank
[03:55] <asterias> ubotu: posso farti una domandina ti ringrazio in anticipo
[03:56] <Asc> That's that then.
[03:56] <awilcox> Farti?  like, gas?
[03:56] <Innomen> well its installing, and its taking its sweet time
[03:56] <awilcox> "Take your sweet, sweet time; I will be there when you change your mind"
[03:56] <asterias> ubotu: ma se uso driver audio propietari nel kernel devo attivare qualcosa per l'audio?
[03:56] <awilcox> that's a song.
[03:56] <Innomen> hmmm, havent heard it
[03:57] <awilcox> Oh Lord, Asterias is talking to the bot
[03:57] <kitche> asterias: join #ubuntu-it
[03:57] <awilcox> asterias: bot no comprendo.  join #ubuntu-it
[03:57] <awilcox> Innomen, Jesse McCartney
[03:57] <theflyingfool> i am having some really bad times trying to get my usb hdd to mount, its ntfs, i need to read and write it
[03:58] <Innomen> noted
[03:58] <awilcox> theflyingfool, fuse
[03:58] <awilcox> !fuse
[03:58] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:58] <awilcox> I think I'll reinstall ubuntu
[03:58] <awilcox> I'm getting nowhere
[03:58] <dom_> i get it
[03:58] <dom_> ubotu is a bot
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <dom_> listening for !'s
[03:58] <awilcox> thanks Asc ArrenLex and auTONYmity
[03:58] <genericuser> lol
[03:58] <awilcox> dom_ yes
[03:58] <Innomen> awilcox: still scrwed eh?
[03:58] <dom_> can i get a listing of commands he's listening for?
[03:58] <awilcox> :)
[03:58] <awilcox> Innomen yes
[03:58] <dom_> !help
[03:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:58] <Innomen> great new years for you :/
[03:58] <dom_> ha!
[03:59] <Asc> awilcox: Wish I knew how to fix it.  Good luck with the reinstall.
[03:59] <awilcox> Asc thanks
[03:59] <awilcox> Innomen thanks, you too
[03:59] <Innomen> you'll sqaure it away i have no doubts
[03:59] <awilcox> yeah
[03:59] <theflyingfool> i have fuse and still no luck
[04:00] <Asc> What's that, I get a login on your server?
[04:00] <JaeSharp> hmm, does nvidia's proprietary driver support AIGLX? I was thinking about getting a 7600GT...
[04:01] <TheDebugger> JaeSharp: The beta drivers support it
[04:02] <ceacro> hello world
[04:02] <JaeSharp> TheDebugger> excellent <g> thanks :)
[04:02] <ceacro> Happy New year everyone
[04:02] <Innomen> ceacro: thanx :)
[04:02] <JaeSharp> ceacro> indeed, and to you as well :)
[04:02] <|lastExilE|> happy new year
[04:02] <|lastExilE|> not there yet here
[04:02] <Innomen> we're all dorks
[04:02] <Innomen> we should all be drunk somewhere
[04:02] <Innomen> fondling someone
[04:02] <|lastExilE|> on irc on new years, yep
[04:02] <ceacro> I wish you get a lot of monet as well as health
[04:02] <jbroome> paintings?
[04:03] <Innomen> ceacro: thank you, thats very sweet, i wish the same and better for oyu
[04:03] <Innomen> jbroome: extra dork points for you
[04:03] <jbroome> woot!
[04:03] <|lastExilE|> lmao
[04:03] <Innomen> for bonus round, what style does monet paint in without google
[04:03] <|lastExilE|> what are we all listening to tonight?
[04:03] <superkirbyartist> Skippy MP3!  I use Xubuntu and gxine to play MP3s and it skips a lot!
[04:03] <Innomen> pointalism, I WIN!
[04:03] <Innomen> i think
[04:03] <Innomen> anyway
[04:04] <theflyingfool> i think i am retarded, i cant get my ntfs usb hdd to mount
[04:04] <|lastExilE|> monet? pointilism um not his major works
[04:04] <jevangelo> what are the advantages of running a streaming music php page on server as apposed to desktop
[04:04] <Innomen> |lastExilE|: you win then :P
[04:04] <Innomen> Impressionist
[04:04] <Innomen> yea
[04:05] <san-man> Monet was an impressionist painter.
[04:05] <ozzloy> we are dorks
[04:05] <|lastExilE|> yeah i couldnt name it though
[04:05] <Innomen> me either
[04:05] <Innomen> wiki told me
[04:05] <|lastExilE|> lol
[04:05] <Asc> superkirbyartist, 'sudo hdparm /dev/hd*' | grep using_dma' and make sure dma is on on all your disks
[04:05] <siv0x> Anyone familiar with wine/steam/cs ?
[04:05] <jevangelo> what are the advantages of running a streaming music php page on server as apposed to desktop??
[04:06] <Asc> but without any of the apostrophes
[04:06] <|lastExilE|> siv0x, I dont know much about it, havent done it, but I know you'll be after better compat with somthing like cedega rather than wine
[04:06] <Asc> including the one after the *
[04:07] <|lastExilE|> ok its just about time to pull out the MC Hawking mp3s
[04:07] <SurfnKid> um
[04:07] <SurfnKid> how do i know if my modem is installed correctly
[04:07] <archangelpetro> has anyone here heard of sopcast?
[04:07] <SurfnKid> please help
[04:07] <SurfnKid> how do you dial up in ubuntu
[04:08] <Asc> surfinkid: Is it an external modem, or a winmodem?
[04:08] <SurfnKid> well
[04:08] <SurfnKid> internal
[04:08] <SurfnKid> my laptop has nearly everything working 100%
[04:08] <theflyingfool> does anyone have experance mounting ntfs on external drives? i cant get it working
[04:08] <SurfnKid> just dont know if the modem is ready for dialup
[04:09] <SurfnKid> Asc, how would you queue it
[04:09] <superkirbyartist> It's slow and that's no lie it about as much fun as watching paint dry.
[04:09] <superkirbyartist> !dialup
[04:09] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[04:09] <dom_> !boogers
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boogers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <dom_> !women
[04:09] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[04:09] <superkirbyartist> The grep command IS SLOW.
[04:09] <SurfnKid> superkirbyartist, thx
[04:09] <dom_> !how to get down with the ladies
[04:09] <san-man> I'm preparing to install Ubuntu on a computer with a SATA II 300 hard drive. I recall that there were compatability problems with SATA hard drives several months ago, but I can't find anything current on this issue. Have the SATA hard drive  compatability problems been resolved?
[04:09] <|lastExilE|> !existence
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about existence - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <Asc> surfnkid: Yeah, what ubotu said is probably your best bet.  I could help with an external modem.
[04:10] <dom_> !relativity
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about relativity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <superkirbyartist> SurfnKid: No prob, dialup card for laptop worked for me without setup.
[04:10] <jbroome> !botabuse | dom_
[04:10] <ubotu> dom_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:10] <Asc> superkirbyartist: it shouldn't be.  That command took me a good fraction of a second to run
[04:10] <Innomen> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yArPNtiQDcM&eurl= heheh
[04:10] <Innomen> sorry
[04:10] <|lastExilE|> !psiognymy
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psiognymy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <SurfnKid> superkirbyartist, nice
[04:10] <superkirbyartist> Asc: I'm talking Pentium MMX 266mhz 2GB HD 172MB RAM
[04:10] <Innomen> isnt that where you get to marry lotz of girls?
[04:11] <jbroome> !botabuse | |lastExilE|
[04:11] <ubotu> |lastExilE|: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:11] <dom_> ...he started it
[04:11] <|lastExilE|> oops
[04:11] <Asc> superkirbyartist: Okay, but still not more than a few seconds probably
[04:11] <superkirbyartist> I ctrl+C it it was slow.
[04:11] <Asc> superkirbyartist: Might be worth checking the spelling. "sudo hdparm /dev/hd* | grep using_dma"
[04:12] <|lastExilE|> kirby: what kernel vsn?
[04:12] <superkirbyartist> All values equal one.
[04:13] <Arigato> how is the load measured?
[04:13] <Asc> Yeah.  My computer's ten times faster, but it took 0.004 seconds of CPU time.
[04:13] <|lastExilE|> dont bother running a grep then. just pipe it into a file and then grep that
[04:13] <|lastExilE|> cat | grep it
[04:13] <Asc> Okay.  I had skippy mp3 on old hardware for a while and dma was the culprit
[04:13] <superkirbyartist> |lastexile| wait
[04:14] <Asc> superkirbyartist: HAve you tried any other players?
[04:14] <superkirbyartist> After running comand still skips.  Asc: I would like a compiled madplay, please.
[04:14] <archangelpetro> has anyone here heard of sopcast??  anyone at all?
[04:15] <|lastExilE|> yeah its going to still be the same, we hadnt issued a change to the dma mode yet
[04:15] <|lastExilE|> we wanted to see if it was using dma
[04:15] <superkirbyartist> I'm using dma and still skips with all CPU activity.
[04:15] <Asc> superkirbyartist: just for fun, use the console to run mplayer on one of the files
[04:16] <superkirbyartist> Where can I get madplay?
[04:16] <ShayGuy> Hey. I'm back, using a second computer.
[04:16] <ShayGuy> Remember me?
[04:16] <Innomen> i do
[04:16] <Asc> superkirbyartist: Could be tricky, we're using different kernels.
[04:16] <superkirbyartist> mplayer?
[04:17] <|lastExilE|> anyone remember that old curses player... cant remember the name of it
[04:17] <superkirbyartist> Asc: How do you know?  And where can I get a command line player.
[04:17] <Asc> superkirbyartist: I think it should come with a standard install.  'mplayer filename'
[04:17] <|lastExilE|> mp3blaster
[04:17] <superkirbyartist> mplayer is not a command
[04:17] <|lastExilE|> kirby: vlc
[04:17] <Asc> superkirbyartist: I'm using a kernel compiled for 686, which wouldn't work on your hardware.
[04:18] <superkirbyartist> Is one installed already?  Where can I download a small command line player?
[04:18] <Asc> superkirbyartist: Do you have spare disk space to play with?
[04:18] <superkirbyartist> Not vlc, takes long to download.
[04:18] <superkirbyartist> Asc: like 500mb
[04:18] <|lastExilE|> kirby: mp3blaster a great low overhead curses based mp3 player
[04:18] <superkirbyartist> |lastexile| how to obtain it?
[04:18] <Asc> superkirbyartist: madplay is in the repositories.  'sudo apt-get install madplay'
[04:18] <|lastExilE|> http://mp3blaster.sourceforge.net/
[04:18] <ShayGuy> Under "network settings," it says "Wireless connection: This network interface is not configured"
[04:19] <|lastExilE|> you'll need to compile ti
[04:19] <superkirbyartist> Thank you!  I needed a precompiled apt-get mp3 player!
[04:19] <Asc> superkirbyartist: You can also use 'sudo apt-get install mplayer' to get mplayer, but it's a 3.5 MB download.
[04:20] <|lastExilE|> well then apt-get mp3blaster
[04:20] <|lastExilE|> its in the repos
[04:20] <superkirbyartist> It's very tiny madplay!
[04:20] <kitche> !madplay
[04:20] <ubotu> madplay: MPEG audio player in fixed point. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.15.2b-4 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 152 kB
[04:20] <superkirbyartist> |lastexile| any differences?  Will it hog bandwidth?
[04:20] <|lastExilE|> differences?
[04:22] <ShayGuy> So, how /do/ I configure my network interface?
[04:22] <superkirbyartist> No skip with madplay!  Ubuntu rocks!  Even if I move mouse and stuff on my 266mhz laptop, NO SKIP!!!  Thank you!
[04:23] <alex-weej> ShayGuy: System -> Administration -> Networking
[04:23] <arn0ld> could anyone help me with some mouse problems
[04:23] <superkirbyartist> Thanks anyways, |lastexile|, but I can't afford bandwidth to download anything else.
[04:23] <arn0ld> my mouse move way to fast and its already on the lowest settings availible in the gui
[04:23] <|lastExilE|> no worries kirby
[04:23] <ShayGuy> Yeah, I was in there.
[04:24] <superkirbyartist> We salute you ^_^
[04:24] <ShayGuy> "Network name"...dunno if there's actually a named network here.
[04:24] <|lastExilE|> btw mp3blaster is 302kb
[04:24] <Asc> For me, madplay uses more CPU but less memory
[04:24] <ShayGuy> In Windows, it said "connected to default"...
[04:25] <|lastExilE|> to each their own
[04:25] <|lastExilE|> he did say he had 172 mb ram
[04:25] <dutta> hi guys i need help. want to delete kubuntu from my PC and try some other distro. But dont know in which partition it is in. can u help me?
[04:25] <arn0ld> does anyone know of a file or something i could edit to manually lower the mouse speed /accel
[04:26] <dutta> hello someone?
[04:26] <alienseer23>  i downloaded the latest java fre from sun, and installed azureus from synaptic (under linux) and it won't start, acan someone help me out, please?
[04:26] <conic> id try install a different mouse driver
[04:26] <Asc> Yeah, but it uses *a lot* more CPU.  By like a factor of eight or more.
[04:26] <conic> synaptic would of installed the correct java version
[04:26] <|lastExilE|> which does
[04:26] <arn0ld> ok ill try messing around with that
[04:27] <Asc> madplay
[04:27] <hassan2a> shut up arnold
[04:27] <arn0ld> ?
[04:27] <pSyONiDe> zed.org
[04:27] <hosiah> Happy New Year in the American time zones!
[04:27] <Asc> mplayer uses about .01s of CPU time every eight seconds, and madplay uses closer to 16
 Happy New Year in the American time zones!
[04:27] <weem> isnt new year yet :(
[04:27] <arn0ld> something wrong hassan2a
[04:28] <hosiah> I'm early
[04:28] <|lastExilE|> ouch. I was saying to try mp3blaster, not madplay
[04:28] <|lastExilE|> an hour and 25 mins here
[04:28] <|lastExilE|> calgary sucks
[04:29] <ozzloy> |lastExilE|: you're in canada?
[04:29] <|lastExilE|> something like that
[04:29] <Asc> I remember using a 150 mhz windows machine.  You couldn't play mp3s and do anything interesting at the same time.
[04:29] <|lastExilE|> depends on what you used to play it with
[04:29] <|lastExilE|> and how much patience you had
[04:29] <ozzloy> |lastExilE|: say "hi!" to lauren for me, if you see her igloo from your dogsled during the 3 month winter night time
[04:29] <|lastExilE|> lmao
[04:30] <conic> you can just put the mp3 player on high priority and it will never skip
[04:30] <|lastExilE|> yeah but then X will seem to hang
[04:30] <|lastExilE|> particularly if a swap occurs
[04:30] <hosiah> Here in Iowa, we didn't get a white Christmas, but it made up for it with snow for New Year's!
[04:31] <ShayGuy> So, how about my network connection...?
[04:31] <Asc> hmm, yeah.  mp3blaster uses about as much as mplayer
[04:32] <con-man> grrrr, im having trouble with mounting dvds, and playing them for that matter
[04:32] <conic> anyone use xmms2 on ubuntu ?
 try vlc
[04:32] <|lastExilE|> vlc
[04:32] <con-man> I cant eject my dvd now
[04:32] <con-man> or unmount it
[04:32] <conic> whats the error message
[04:32] <|lastExilE|> what message are you getting on unmount?
[04:33] <conic> device busy ?
[04:33] <|lastExilE|> open a terminal, sudo -s, and then type umount /dev/hdc
[04:33] <woodwizzle> Is there a Qt theme I can download that looks just like edgy's gtk theme?
[04:33] <woodwizzle> so that qt apps will look the same or similar to my gtk ones?
[04:33] <|lastExilE|> wizzle- try kde-look.org for themes
[04:34] <con-man> |lastExilE|: it tells me its not mounted, but it has to be if I cannot eject it
[04:34] <|lastExilE|> and gnome-look.org for corresponding gtk and metacity ones
[04:34] <deathmas> sup ppl
[04:34] <Innomen> i want to be batshit insane when i grow up
[04:34] <|lastExilE|> conman: how many cd drives do you have
[04:34] <Aar0n444> Hi
[04:35] <AWOSLappy> Where to go for MemTest86 questions?
[04:35] <hosiah> Innomen> I got that way when Igrew up, and I don't regret it for a bit.
[04:35] <peacekpr> anyone been able to get synce-gnomevfs installed on edgy for amd64?
[04:35] <con-man> |lastExilE|: 4 DVD Burners (dont ask why, I just do)
[04:35] <Innomen> hosiah: good to know i'm on the right path :)
[04:35] <AWOSLappy> Innomen, got what way?  what did I miss?
[04:35] <Aar0n444> On my laptop, I've installed using 'pci=noacpi' and that's all fine. Just my NIC doesn't work. It's not even recognised. Any ideas?
[04:35] <|lastExilE|> lmao ok you'll have to try umount /dev/hdX where X is b, c, d, e etc
[04:36] <con-man> Aar0n444: is it turned on in the bios?
[04:36] <Aar0n444> Yeah
[04:36] <Innomen> AWOSLappy: peanut butter is not conductive, dont ask
[04:36] <Innomen> brb
[04:36] <AWOSLappy> Innomen, sorry, but what?  you mean, you found that out?
[04:36] <con-man> Aar0n444: and there is no power save thing? some laptops turn off the nic when on battery to save power
[04:36] <peacekpr> Aar0n444, what type of laptop?
[04:37] <|lastExilE|> youre talking about wake on lan
[04:37] <deathmas> I am installing nubuntu now and was wondering how hard its going to be to get my sound running and set up kde in it using apt-get
[04:37] <Aar0n444> No power-save to my knowledge. It's an Acer travelmate 212TXV
[04:37] <con-man> |lastExilE|: yeah ive tried all the drivers, it tells me it is not mounted
[04:37] <|lastExilE|> conman: ok then reboot your machine
[04:37] <|lastExilE|> pull out the disk when it turns off
[04:37] <con-man> |lastExilE|: that will fix it
[04:37] <|lastExilE|> try it
[04:37] <con-man> |lastExilE|: but I dont want to do that every time
[04:38] <con-man> |lastExilE|: i know that will get the disc out
[04:38] <peacekpr> Aar0n444, hmm... no experience with an Acer
[04:38] <asterias> patching file arch/arm/mach-omap2/prcm.c
[04:38] <asterias> Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n] 
[04:38] <hosiah> installing Linux on New Year's Eve? Me so geeky, me hack you long time!
[04:38] <asterias> were ii?
[04:38] <asterias> is?
[04:38] <Aar0n444> I'm only trying to get this to work, so I can apt-get something that I need to get ndiswrapper working
[04:38] <|lastExilE|> conman: yeah I understand that, but if you reboot you'll reset the hotplug subsystem, and maybe everything will eb fine
[04:38] <Aar0n444> Apparently I need the kernel source
[04:38] <|lastExilE|> we are getting to windows level of complexity with our HALs and such
[04:39] <con-man> |lastExilE|: tried that about 30 mins ago
[04:39] <con-man> |lastExilE|: dont wanna reboot again
[04:39] <|lastExilE|> well then say that
[04:39] <|lastExilE|> its hard to troubleshoot something when you dont know what steps have already been taken
[04:39] <con-man> that is the only step ive taken
[04:39] <|lastExilE|> im out
[04:39] <con-man> i know rebooting will fix it
[04:39] <con-man> damnit
[04:39] <seanj> :(
[04:39] <ShayGuy> So, my network connection?
[04:40] <deathmas> my connections works
[04:40] <deathmas> dont know how tho
[04:40] <con-man> how do I kill a process?  kill xxxxx?
[04:40] <deathmas> i didnt even try to connect
[04:40] <deathmas> lol
[04:40] <con-man> and is that number from ps -A
[04:40] <deathmas> wireless card works and connected
[04:40] <deathmas> LoL
[04:40] <dom_> what's the --sm-disable switch do?
[04:40] <peacekpr> Aar0n444, install linux-headers
[04:40] <seanj> or killall processname
[04:40] <con-man> ok
[04:40] <seanj> if it doesnt work use the kill -9
[04:41] <seanj> like, killall -9 firefox
[04:41] <Innomen> 1 bar cream chesse, 1 tblspoon vanilla extract, 6 tblspoons butter, 1 cup confectionaers sugar, 1 grancracker crust one hand blender
[04:41] <Aar0n444> peacekpr: How, when I'm trying to do this so i CAN connect to the net
[04:41] <Innomen> yeilds 6 servings dibetes
[04:42] <peacekpr> use your ethernet card? are you having Wifi problems or ethernet problems?
[04:42] <theflyingfool> what does it mean if an ntfs is unclean
[04:42] <theflyingfool> and how do i fix it
[04:42] <Aar0n444> My ethernet isn't even detected. My WiFi is, but doesn't work. So I'm trying to get ndiswrapper working
[04:43] <cafuego_> theflyingfool: Boot wodnwos, fix disk.
[04:43] <theflyingfool> i dont have windows
[04:43] <theflyingfool> its on an external hdd
[04:43] <deathmas> Aar0n444 what card u using
[04:43] <cafuego_> theflyingfool: Plug it into windows box, fix disk
[04:43] <Asc> y
[04:44] <Aar0n444> deathmas: For ethernet, no idea. For WiFi, D-Link DWL-G650+
[04:44] <Ryugi> hello
[04:44] <nelsonuwp> anyone ever have any problems with the dvd playback in 6.10?
[04:44] <peacekpr> Aar0n444, why did you use pci=noacpi ?
[04:44] <con-man> how do I kill a process listed in ps -A
[04:44] <cafuego_> nelsonuwp: I do, Totem basically won't. mplayer works fine, though.
[04:44] <Ryugi> has anyone here ever setup  an ubuntu machine as a gateeway router?
[04:45] <Aar0n444> I read about others using it because their machines wouldn't boot. Mine wouldn't either, so I tried it and it then worked.
[04:45] <Asc> con-man: kill [process number] 
[04:45] <nelsonuwp> cafuego_: i read something saying it should work, but I dont have the libdvd file..or package
[04:45] <Asc> con-man: If you want to, you can also use 'kill $(prgrep [process name] ' to find and kill all instances of a process name
[04:46] <cafuego_> nelsonuwp: I do, and it will won't work <heh>
[04:46] <AWOSLappy> Innomen, one it's spelled DIAbetes, and two I have it so that's not funny :-(
[04:46] <Asc> with a closing parenthesis though
[04:46] <cafuego_> nelsonuwp: Install 'libdvdread3' and then run the script in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples
[04:46] <peacekpr> Aar0n444, wouldn't boot meaning it wouldn't detect the hard drive?
[04:46] <nelsonuwp> i dont have that file
[04:46] <deathmas> dam
[04:46] <theflyingfool> do i need to create an entry in fstab for an external drive?
[04:46] <cafuego_> Like I saidk, install the package first
[04:46] <deathmas> ok heres my big prob
[04:46] <Aar0n444> Okay, I meant once I press Enter to boot the Live CD, it would just go round and round and round
[04:46] <deathmas> I just ran nubuntu install and it failed to install grub
[04:47] <cafuego_> theflyingfool: Normally it woul dget automounted under /media and listed on the desktop.
[04:47] <deathmas> so if i reboot i dont think its gonna work
[04:47] <theflyingfool> even if its ntfs?
[04:47] <deathmas> anyway I can do it from this live cd running
[04:47] <nelsonuwp> cafuego_: is it already therewith ubuntu?
[04:47] <nelsonuwp> or do I need to dl it?
[04:47] <cafuego_> nelsonuwp: Not if you doidn't install it. Check with 'dpkg -l libdvdread3'
[04:48] <[shroom] > Is anyone using an x86_64 kernel on an MSI K9N Platinum (non-SLI) motherboard?
[04:48] <peacekpr> Aar0n444, hmm... not the issue was thinking... if it was your hard drive, i'd suggest using "pci=nomsi" and give it a whirl
[04:48] <peacekpr> then you'd get your NIC back
[04:48] <ShayGuy> Can /anyone/ help me with my connection?
[04:49] <deathmas> HELP I need to install a boot loader before I reboot
[04:49] <Aar0n444> Peachkpr, I put in the live CD, I boot into it, then I press F6, then I just add to the end "pci=nomsi"  ?
[04:49] <peacekpr> deathmas... did you try to look at how to install GRUB ?
[04:50] <peacekpr> yes
[04:50] <con-man> something is using my dvd, cause I cant eject it
[04:50] <peacekpr> as a kernel option
[04:50] <chip__> hi
[04:50] <nelsonuwp> cafuego_:  no packages found
[04:50] <cafuego_> nelsonuwp: 'sudo apt-get install libdvdread3'
[04:50] <peacekpr> Aar0n444, not going to promise it will work, but worth a shot :)
[04:50] <deathmas> peacekpr it failed when I ran the install to install nubuntu grub failed to install can I do it manually
[04:50] <Aar0n444> Just trying it now
[04:51] <ski-worklap> uhm. i have a weird problem with my desktop. /media/scratch is being called a "}\n\t\n}\n}\n\n1;"
[04:51] <maddash> xfree86 vs. x.org?
[04:51] <ski-worklap> http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p133/bugmeshiz/icon-renaming-wtf-1.png
[04:51] <chip__> I'm new to Linux and ubuntu but am not new to PCs...  I have three questions concerning three different issues.
[04:51] <peacekpr> deathmas, googling how to install GRUB is where my expertise on the subject ends
[04:51] <peacekpr> ;)
[04:51] <ski-worklap> anyone know how to fix? right clicking the sucka gives no option for renaming it, and gnome's putting it on my desktop whenever i mount so there is no file to change (that i can find)
[04:51] <peacekpr> i'm scared of messing with the bootloader
[04:51] <peacekpr> hehe
[04:51] <AWOSLappy> maddash, they both suck.  stick with Xorg though, it comes with Ubuntu
[04:52] <Aar0n444> peacekpr, no luck.
[04:52] <Aar0n444> I don't think
[04:52] <peacekpr> Aar0n444, bummer
[04:52] <nelsonuwp> cafuego_: could not get lock blah blah blah, unable to lock the administration directory
[04:52] <maddash> awoslappy: why do they suck? what doesn't suck? and I did a server install of ubuntu, so I can go w/either, I thnk
[04:52] <AWOSLappy> nelsonuwp, put "sudo " in front of it
[04:52] <maddash> awoslappy: I'd be happy with a link you can provide
[04:52] <cafuego_> nelsonuwp: make sure no other package admin tool is currently running and try again.
[04:52] <peacekpr> Aar0n444, and you said you can't get into your BIOS to mess with the power saving options?
[04:52] <nelsonuwp> AWOSLappy: i did
[04:52] <AWOSLappy> maddash well XFree86 is not compatible with a lot of hardware, and Xorg eats memory.
[04:52] <Aar0n444> I can get into the BIOS fine
[04:52] <AWOSLappy> I can give you no links
[04:52] <chip__> when trying to access gmail, Firefox shutsdown on it's own
[04:52] <AWOSLappy> nelsonuwp, close Adept and Synaptic (if they are open)
[04:53] <ShayGuy> Can anyone see this, or is something wrong?
[04:53] <nelsonuwp> aha
[04:53] <kitche> maddash: only thing that xfree86 is wrong is the license that's why xorg was made
[04:53] <nelsonuwp> coudlnt find the package
[04:53] <superkirbyartist> Can someone help me install criawips please?
[04:53] <maddash> awoslappy: what doesn't suck? aqua? explorer.exe?
[04:53] <robtp> superkirbyartist: straight apt-get or synpatic or adept doesnt work?
[04:53] <AWOSLappy> maddash, as of yet they ALL suck.
[04:53] <AWOSLappy> sorry.
[04:53] <maddash> LOL
[04:53] <robtp> !package criawips
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package criawips - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <superkirbyartist> Apt-get, all manners don't work, robtp :(
[04:54] <robtp> ermm
[04:54] <robtp> superkirbyartist: are you running edgy or dapper?
[04:54] <superkirbyartist> !criawips
[04:54] <nelsonuwp> AWOSLappy:couldn't find the package libdvdread3
[04:54] <ubotu> criawips: A Presentation application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.11-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 176 kB
[04:54] <peacekpr> Aar0n444, google turned up no help, eh?
[04:54] <superkirbyartist> edgy xubuntu robtp
[04:54] <Aar0n444> I've Googled, just nothing seems to really help
[04:54] <Aar0n444> Aha, it's done something
[04:54] <Aar0n444> "/bing/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[04:55] <peacekpr> Aar0n444, dunno what that means ;)
[04:55] <Aar0n444> (initramfs"
[04:55] <un_operateur> superkirbyartist, errm, why does apt-get not work?
[04:55] <Aar0n444> Then just other stuff
[04:55] <kitche> Aar0n444: that is a bad error
[04:55] <robtp> superkirbyartist: see the messages i sent to you?
[04:55] <Aar0n444> So what can I do then kitche
[04:55] <superkirbyartist> Npe robtp sorry dialup.
[04:56] <ShayGuy> Now, what about my wireless connection?
[04:56] <robtp> superkirbyartist: did you enable the unvirse component which criawips is in?
[04:56] <superkirbyartist> Yes.
[04:56] <robtp> superkirbyartist: run synaptic, go to Edit > ok nevermind
[04:56] <robtp> and youve since apt-get updated?
[04:57] <superkirbyartist> It says "packets defectueux" when I apt-get, peeps.
[04:57] <robtp> superkirbyartist: in english does that mean packets lost?
[04:57] <epitron> haha this is awesome
[04:57] <epitron> i've been running this ubuntu machine for so long that apt-get segfaults now
[04:57] <superkirbyartist> robtp: Defective/broken package but earlier there are also dependency problems.
[04:58] <epitron> it's been up for 563 days
[04:58] <epitron> no wait, 598
[04:58] <DigitalNinja> I'm trying to help someone get kubuntu edgy up and running. I'm on dapper. Can they install synaptic?
[04:58] <robtp> superkirbyartist: try apt-get dist-upgrade and/or apt-get -f install
[04:58] <FunnyLookinHat> What's the desktop search program for gnome desktop?
[04:58] <bruenig> locate
[04:58] <robtp> FunnyLookinHat: Beagle
[04:58] <bruenig> whereis
[04:58] <epitron> it's amazing that it's still running after 600 days. it was breezy when it booted, and now it's dapper :)
[04:58] <bruenig> which
[04:58] <bruenig> find
[04:58] <AWOSLappy> DigitalNinja, they already have Adept which is KDE's synaptic
[04:58] <FunnyLookinHat> robtp, thanks
[04:58] <un_operateur> FunnyLookinHat, gnome-search-tool?
[04:58] <bruenig> those are some good ones
[04:59] <robtp> bruenig: well... i think he was asking along different lines
[04:59] <AWOSLappy> DigitalNinja but yes they can, but it's very very sucky because they must install GNOME libs
[04:59] <chip__> Hi everyoe, I just got xbuntu up and running, my first attempt at Linux, I have few questions on three areas I need help on
[04:59] <robtp> FunnyLookinHat: beagle isnt installed by default, gnome-search-tool is always there but its not very nice imo
[04:59] <DigitalNinja> AWOSLappy: I see. What's wrong with GNOME libs?
[04:59] <DigitalNinja> : )
[04:59] <bruenig> chip__, fire away
[04:59] <robtp> chip__: shoot
[04:59] <AWOSLappy> DigitalNinja, /me hates GNOME -- AND it uses 110M disk space!
[04:59] <nelsonuwp> AWOSLappy: if not package is found that means I need to go download it?
[04:59] <chip__> Ok first, Firefox keeps shutting down when logging into gmail
[05:00] <DigitalNinja> AWOSLappy: I'll just tell them to use Adept.
[05:00] <superkirbyartist> Same old, unless you have another lightweight presentation program.
[05:00] <FunnyLookinHat> I was looking for beagle...  I couldn't recall what it's called
[05:00] <AWOSLappy> nelsonuwp, you trying libdvdcss3 or whatever
[05:00] <AWOSLappy> !libdvdcss
[05:00] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:00] <hassan2a> good morning
[05:00] <AWOSLappy> !libdvdcss | nelsonuwp
[05:00] <ubotu> nelsonuwp: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:00] <AWOSLappy> ^ Read the Wiki!
[05:00] <bruenig> chip__, I can't think of any reason why that would happen
[05:01] <nelsonuwp> yes
[05:01] <nelsonuwp> well no
[05:01] <nelsonuwp> AWOSLappy: im trying to install libdvdread3
[05:01] <BigBamBo> chip_: does it shut at any other side ?
[05:01] <BigBamBo> site
[05:01] <hassan2a> good morning all
[05:01] <nelsonuwp> !libdvdread3
[05:01] <ubotu> libdvdread3: library for reading DVDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 180 kB
[05:01] <chip__> it happens on other sites as well, I'm trying to find them but I think it has to do with the language or programming gmail uses.
[05:01] <Aar0n444> I think I might need to use 'irqpoll' option. Should I type 'linux irqpoll' or just 'irqpoll'
[05:02] <chip__> it works fine on regular html sites
[05:02] <hassan2a> hello all
[05:02] <chip__> I'm not using dial-up, I have FiOS
[05:02] <bruenig> chip__, you can use gmail in normal html
[05:02] <superkirbyartist> chip__ hmmm... don't know what to say how old is PC?
[05:02] <hassan2a> fuck off
[05:03] <chip__> PC is a laptop on a three year old system
[05:03] <superkirbyartist> !language | hassan2a
[05:03] <ubotu> hassan2a: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:03] <BigBamBo> chip_: do you know for sure you are connecting to the internet?
[05:03] <AWOSLappy> !language | hassan2a
[05:03] <pickles_> anyone used linux-phc?
[05:03] <maul555_> does ubuntu use x.org?
[05:03] <AWOSLappy> maul555_ yes
[05:03] <bruenig> maul555, yes
[05:03] <superkirbyartist> Okay, who can help me with criawips, please?
[05:03] <maul555_> cool
[05:03] <maul555_> thx
[05:03] <chip__> I'd hope I'm connected to the net or how else am I talking to you guys and able to browse others sites ( :-) )
[05:03] <con-man_> i added this command but it wont work: bash: /usr/local/bin/wow: Permission denied
[05:03] <robtp> superkirbyartist: did you try the two things i suggested?
[05:03] <superkirbyartist> chip__ sorry but I can't help you much.
[05:03] <superkirbyartist> chip__ PM me
[05:03] <maddash> con-man: prefix with "sudo"
[05:04] <ShayGuy> Stupid IRC...
[05:04] <superkirbyartist> robtp: I did apt-get -f didn't work.  What was other one?
[05:04] <con-man_> sudo: wow: command not found
[05:04] <BigBamBo> chip_: on reflection that was a stupid question
[05:04] <ShayGuy> I still don't know how to fix my wireless connection.
[05:04] <bruenig> if wow is world of warcraft, I wouldn't think that it should be run as root
[05:04] <superkirbyartist> wow = for linux?
[05:04] <maddash> con-man: what did you issue to the cmd-line?
[05:04] <robtp> superkirbyartist: its prob not gonna help, but apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:04] <un_operateur> con-man_, type -a sudo
[05:04] <siv0x> Could anyone help me get sound ingame, i'm using wine to emulate steam to run counter strike source. I dont hear a beep when i use  cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp, #winehq said that i need to get my ALSAs OSS Emulator working, as far as i know it is.. but still no sound
[05:04] <chip__> it's okay BigBam...  I figured it was
[05:04] <hassan2a> Hello all
[05:05] <maul555_> is x.org 6.8 used in ubuntu 6.10 x86?
[05:05] <con-man_> bash: -a: command not found
[05:05] <maddash> LOL
[05:05] <con-man_> :D
[05:05] <maddash> con-man: tell me what you typed
[05:05] <maddash> con-man: the whole thing
[05:05] <superkirbyartist> No way robtp!  Bandwidth killer!  I'm on dialup!
[05:05] <con-man_> sudo wow
[05:05] <un_operateur> lol con-man_  -- as is "type -a sudo" :))
[05:05] <bruenig> !ops | hassan2a is back, just figured I would give a heads up
[05:05] <ubotu> hassan2a is back, just figured I would give a heads up: Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[05:05] <con-man_> sudo: wow: command not found
[05:05] <billstei> chip__, does gmail use java ?
[05:05] <hassan2a> hello man con
[05:05] <rob> err..
[05:05] <con-man_> sudo is /usr/bin/sudo
[05:05] <con-man_> sudo is /usr/bin/X11/sudo
[05:05] <hassan2a> i don't understand sorry xD
[05:05] <DBO> bruenig, he hasnt done anything worth removing him again
[05:06] <maddash> con-man: are you trying to issue a "wow" command?
[05:06] <rob> exactly
[05:06] <bruenig> hence heads up
[05:06] <ShayGuy>  /msg nickserv link ShayGuy 913green
[05:06] <maddash> con-man: what are you trying to do?
[05:06] <DBO> ok I will watch bruenig, thank you
[05:06] <robtp> superkirbyartist: there are a lot to do?
[05:06] <hassan2a> man con
[05:06] <superkirbyartist> 50 MB robtp
[05:06] <un_operateur> con-man_, what does issuing /usr/bin/sudo give you?
[05:06] <chip__> I think it's a java thing, I just visited a java game site and it closed on me...
[05:06] <siv0x> Anyone? please... i've been trying to get this to work for two days..
[05:06] <con-man> im trying to run wow without having to type /usr/local/bin/wine /home/con-man/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft/wow.exe -opengl
[05:06] <hassan2a> une opratrice ?
[05:07] <maul555_> is x.org 6.8 used in ubuntu 6.1????
[05:07] <chip__> I have installed the java plugins and apps
[05:07] <maul555_> is x.org 6.8 used in ubuntu 6.10????
[05:07] <maddash> con-man: shell script?
[05:07] <con-man> yup
[05:07] <robtp> superkirbyartist: it does the same thing when i try to install so, ill see about resolving it here
[05:07] <maul555_> coo] 
[05:07] <hassan2a> hello maul555
[05:07] <bruenig> chip__, you aren't running on 64 bit
[05:07] <ShayGuy>  /msg nickserv Identify ShayGuy 913green
[05:07] <maddash> con-man: ok, so just create an sh file and paste in that command
[05:07] <robtp> superkirbyartist: the package is broken
[05:07] <bruenig> ?
[05:08] <un_operateur> con-man, maybe -- wine "/path/to/file.exe" ?
[05:08] <billstei> chip__, you can check to see what plugins are in Firefox by typing about:plugins into the address bar of firefox
[05:08] <con-man> where do I put that sh file
[05:08] <siv0x> con-man: ln -s  /usr/local/bin/wine /home/con-man/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft/wow.exe
[05:08] <hassan2a> hello con-man
[05:08] <maddash> con-man: /usr/bin
[05:08] <superkirbyartist> robtp: I need to use madplay for mp3, because this laptop is kinda old.  Please do try to help me install Criawips or lightweight presentation program.
[05:08] <con-man> ok
[05:08] <maddash> con-man: you'll need sudo to do that...
[05:08] <chip__> www.addictinggames.com closes firefox as well as gmail
[05:08] <hassan2a> good morning billstei
[05:08] <maddash> con-man: do you have gedit? type into a command line, "sudo gedit /usr/bin/wow"
[05:09] <fiendskull9> hey
[05:09] <billstei> chip__, which addicting game?  I will try it
[05:09] <un_operateur> siv0x, errm, that's attempting to overwrite his wow.exe thingy
[05:09] <fiendskull9> i cant get a static ip working on my server
[05:09] <robtp> superkirbyartist: hmmm, you could try the kde one which is pretty lightweight but its gonna pull in a lot of dependecies
[05:09] <fiendskull9> i want it on 192.168.1.100
[05:09] <ShayGuy> Can you help me?
[05:09] <fiendskull9> routed to 192.168.1.1
[05:09] <con-man> bash: /usr/bin/wow.sh: Permission denied
[05:09] <chip__> None, I justt try to get to the main site and it closes
[05:09] <maddash> con-man: you'll get a window, and paste in that wine cmd you sent me
[05:09] <robtp> superkirbyartist: openoffice.org impress is a nonstarter?
[05:09] <hassan2a> god morning fiendskull9
[05:09] <con-man> bash: /usr/bin/wow.sh: Permission denied
[05:09] <robtp> superkirbyartist: which means it wont work?
[05:09] <bruenig> chip__, do you have javascript enabled? not sure if that would make the browser crash but I am fairly certain at least gmail uses it
[05:09] <maddash> con-man: did you do "sudo gedit /usr/bin/wow"?
[05:09] <fiendskull9> hassan2a, hi?
[05:09] <un_operateur> con-man, chmod u+x /usr/bin/wow.sh
[05:09] <con-man> maddash: yes
[05:09] <Innomen> ok ibm thinkpad 600 linksys wirless G pcmcia card, are there any apps that would make it able to see avilable networks, or detect and configure the card?
[05:09] <hassan2a> fiendskull9:  hox are you miss ?
[05:09] <siv0x> un_operateur: well. thats what i did when i wanted to do the same thing, except for a different program.
[05:09] <superkirbyartist> robtp: impress uses java.  I need lightweight.
[05:09] <chip__> i checked the about:plugins and java is all Enabled
[05:10] <robtp> Innomen: gnome-network-manager is good
[05:10] <hassan2a> fiendskull9:  how are you miss ?
[05:10] <weswh-> anyone know of any awesome music visualization programs? i have tried all of the ones included with amarok, pretty poor. i have a beefy nvidia card, would love to have something cool. i remember 'milkdrop' for winamp ages ago was awesome
[05:10] <robtp> superkirbyartist: i thought so :(
[05:10] <fiendskull9> hassan2a, mister you mean?
[05:10] <bruenig> chip__, javascript, not java
[05:10] <jisatsu_> anyone know of an ID3 editor which supports artwork?
[05:10] <maddash> con-man: did you set your sudo password?...
[05:10] <bruenig> chip__, edit>preferences then content
[05:10] <floppyears> hi
[05:10] <billstei> chip__, I have no trouble with addictinggames front page.  about:plugins here shows: Java(TM) Plug-in 1.5.0_08-b03 installed
[05:10] <un_operateur> !worksforme | siv0x
[05:10] <ubotu> siv0x: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:10] <floppyears> I have a mac laptop that I want to share files with my ubuntu server
[05:10] <chip__> Yes Javascript is enabled
[05:10] <Innomen> robtp: i first booted ubuntu like 30 seconds ago, so, is that something i would download or is it built in?
[05:10] <weswh-> i actually really like the little "jumpy balls" visualization in the bottom part of amarok, but you can't full screen it (that i have seen)
[05:10] <con-man> maddash: in the file?
[05:10] <siv0x> unoperateur: but thats fine, when i ask my question it doesnt get answered so, i wont help anymore.
[05:10] <floppyears> I have heard that I can hook up both of them toether through a ethernet cable and share files
[05:11] <floppyears> what software do I need on the ubuntu side ?
[05:11] <hassan2a> fiendskull9:  try again
[05:11] <floppyears> is is smb or netalk ?
[05:11] <robtp> Innomen: something to download
[05:11] <Innomen> cool
[05:11] <Innomen> thx
[05:11] <jisatsu_> floppyears: I think you need a particular ethernet cable
[05:11] <maddash> con-man: have you ever issued a root password? ie, done something like "sudo passwd"?
[05:11] <robtp> Innomen: sudo apt-get install gnome-network-manager, then add the network-monitor applet to your panel
[05:11] <un_operateur> siv0x, errm, I saw you post no question
[05:11] <floppyears> jisatsu_: yes it's called crossover, but mac os x can use a regular cable and do the conversion :)
[05:12] <siv0x> un_operateur: hrm, okay i'll post again.
[05:12] <h3xis> robtp, i think it's network-manager-gnome
[05:12] <ShayGuy> Do you read me?
[05:12] <siv0x> Could anyone help me get sound ingame, i'm using wine to emulate steam to run counter strike source. I dont hear a beep when i use  cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp, #winehq said that i need to get my ALSAs OSS Emulator working, as far as i know it is.. but still no sound
[05:12] <fiendskull9> floppyears, you need to get a ethernet hub or switch, and hook them both up, and set up a shared folder with samba on your ubuntu box
[05:12] <weswh-> floppy - personally i would just use ssh. but it probably is easy enough with mac
[05:12] <robtp> Innomen: errr.... yeah network-manager-gnome
[05:12] <fiendskull9> siv0x, ask in #wine
[05:12] <robtp> Innomen: and dont add that to your panel, run nm-applet instead
[05:12] <Innomen> sudo?
[05:12] <weswh-> you shouldn't need samba to do linux -> mac
[05:12] <Innomen> i feel i should tell you its on the other machine
[05:12] <siv0x> friendskull9: read my question, i said i already asked.
[05:12] <un_operateur> siv0x, does sound work elsewhere? like when using your media player, etc?
[05:12] <ski-worklap> anyone know why bash in gnome-terminal ignores my PATH settings in .bash_profile (edgy/i386) ?
[05:12] <fiendskull9> SiCuTDeUx, nvm on #wine, doesnt exsist :P
[05:12] <siv0x> un_operateur: ofcourse.
[05:12] <jisatsu_> floppyears: ah ok :)
[05:13] <superkirbyartist> robtp: any luck?
[05:13] <con-man> i applied chmod 1777 to it and it worked
[05:13] <Innomen> heh uhh whre do i get gnome-network-manager?
[05:13] <con-man> maddash: and yes I have issued a sudo password before
[05:14] <maddash> con-man: ok. another (perhaps better?) way of doing this is to create a bash alias...
[05:14] <con-man> maddash: I did chmod 1777 to it and it works
[05:14] <un_operateur> siv0x, you verified alsa-oss is installed?
[05:14] <maddash> con-man: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44458
[05:14] <bruenig> Innomen, sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[05:14] <marelo> i installed unreal tournament in my laptop (running kubuntu) but the game is too slow... what could the problem be?
[05:14] <siv0x> un_operateur: yep
[05:14] <Innomen> http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[05:14] <superkirbyartist> robtp?
[05:14] <maddash> con-man: in case the script thingy didn't work
[05:14] <Innomen> so i *dont8 download something i type something to activate something that was already built in?
[05:14] <robtp> superkirbyartist: still going
[05:14] <hassan2a> Innomen:  heello
[05:14] <Innomen> hassan2a: hi
[05:14] <robtp> superkirbyartist: what kind of presentation are you trying to show?
[05:15] <hassan2a> Innomen:  how are you miss ?
[05:15] <superkirbyartist> robtp: powerpoint
[05:15] <Innomen> wow ok
[05:15] <Innomen> anywho
[05:15] <Innomen> so
[05:15] <hassan2a> ??
[05:15] <floppyears> anybody ?
[05:15] <Innomen> someone answer my Q? am i downloading something or am i installing something already built in?
[05:15] <bruenig> Innomen, I just gave you the command
[05:15] <bruenig> !info network-manager-gnome
[05:15] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.3-2ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 245 kB, installed size 1608 kB
[05:16] <robtp> superkirbyartist: try installing ppthtml
[05:16] <bruenig> Innomen, you are downloading it
[05:16] <robtp> superkirbyartist: i think that conversts ppts to html
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> Innomen: Downloading, then installing.
[05:16] <Innomen> ok then link me
[05:16] <Rprp`> Hmm, is google earth avaible on Ubuntu?
[05:16] <Innomen> cus i cant find it
[05:16] <marelo> i installed unreal tournament in my laptop (running kubuntu) but the game is too slow... what could the problem be?
[05:16] <Innomen> all i found is this
[05:16] <maddash> never
[05:16] <Innomen> http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[05:16] <marelo> i've just installed unreal tournament in my laptop (running kubuntu) but the game is too slow... what could the problem be?
[05:16] <nelsonuwp> anyone know how to get dialup on ubuntu?
[05:16] <robtp> Rprp`: yep, but im not sure how you install it :)
[05:16] <nelsonuwp> an easyway?
[05:16] <Rprp`> hmmm, oke
[05:16] <maddash> marelo: that you're running kde
[05:16] <superkirbyartist> robtp: Yeah, but I can't make nor edit :(
[05:16] <bruenig> Innomen, http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/n/network-manager/network-manager-gnome_0.6.3-2ubuntu6_i386.deb
[05:16] <bruenig> Innomen, got tons of dependencies though
[05:17] <marelo> maddash: i'm afraid I didn't get you
[05:17] <Innomen> dependancies?
[05:17] <jisatsu_> floppyears: I know virtually nothing about networking, but from what I know, the connection should be accessible from system, administration, networking. but I don't know about sharing files between them
[05:17] <chip__> ok guys...  I'll try and figure this out...  I gotta run, it's about midnight here in NYC...  Happy New Year...
[05:17] <bruenig> Innomen, here are its list of dependencies http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/net/network-manager-gnome
[05:17] <Innomen> as in things required before it will run?
[05:17] <bruenig> Innomen, yeah
[05:17] <hassan2a> no Innomen
[05:17] <maddash> marelo: the problem is that you're running kde. it's big. it's bloated. and it chews through memory with ease.
[05:17] <Innomen> i see, is there a complete package?
[05:17] <Innomen> app + required elements?
[05:17] <bruenig> Innomen, once you have an internet connection those will all be taken care of by apt-get
[05:17] <hassan2a> Innomen:  no
[05:17] <maddash> marelo: what's the stats on your laptop?
[05:17] <Innomen> i see
[05:17] <robtp> superkirbyartist: yeah, thats true... it doesnt convert too well either
[05:17] <bruenig> Innomen, not sure
[05:18] <hassan2a> Innomen:  are tou tall ?
[05:18] <robtp> superkirbyartist: im not sure, the package may be fixed at some point, but its pretty old
[05:18] <raef55> i downloaded opera for linux as a tar.gz file . how do i nstall it
[05:18] <Innomen> well if there isnt, when this is done i'll make one
[05:18] <dsock> hey all.  I can't get my fresh Ubuntu 6.10 install to connect to the internet. onboard ethernet on a P5B Deluxe.  any ideas?
[05:18] <bruenig> raef55, why not get the ubuntu deb?
[05:18] <superkirbyartist> robtp the criawips?
[05:18] <hassan2a> Innomen:  your are small so
[05:18] <floppyears> ok, thanks jisatsu_
[05:18] <Innomen> hassan i'm a midget and i lsot my legs in the clone wars, which makes me about 3 feet tall
[05:18] <robtp> superkirbyartist: yeah, is dling koffice an option?
[05:18] <maddash> dsock: sudo ifup?
[05:18] <marelo> maddash: 512 RAM, Pentium M 1.73 Ghz 2 MB Cache
[05:19] <SurfnKid> where is the modem typically under ubuntu
[05:19] <SurfnKid> /dev/modem or /dev/ttyS0
[05:19] <maddash> marelo: sounds like my thinkpad. yeah, kde is definitely going to slow you down. have you thought about using a replacement wm? xfce? icewm? *box?
[05:19] <raef55> don't know where to get it didn't see it
[05:19] <superkirbyartist> robtp if it won't kill my bandwidth... usually xfce supports both gnome and kde fine.
[05:19] <hassan2a> Innomen:  what ? you are a rubbish ? okay
[05:19] <superkirbyartist> robtp: so sudo apt-get install...
[05:19] <robtp> superkirbyartist: if i had to guess id say it would be less than 30mb but i dont really know
[05:20] <dsock> maddash: i haven't tried that. I will try that. have you got any other ideas. this is a dual boot system. I'm on another OS right now
[05:20] <superkirbyartist> robtp package name please?
[05:20] <asc__> When I run xfce, the menu is blank.  It's been that way since I first installed it.  Any idea how I can get a default menu?
[05:20] <maddash> dsock: ok, go back to the other system, and do an "sudo ifconfig -a"
[05:20] <robtp> superkirbyartist: kpresenter
[05:20] <maddash> dsock: see if your network card is being detected by ubuntu
[05:20] <marelo> maddash: no... didn't though of it yet... i think kde is the most beautiful... well, actually i think enlinghtment is more beautiful, but still beta....
[05:21] <billstei> hassan2a, I shot off Innomen's legs in the clone wars and had them sewed on, now I am 9 feet tall
[05:21] <bruenig> raef55, open up a fresh terminal and copy and paste the following, wget ftp://ftp.130th.net/pub/mirror/opera/linux/910/final/en/i386/shared/opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
[05:21] <robtp> superkirbyartist: i just used it to open something and the result was *pretty* ugly
[05:21] <maddash> marelo: well, kde and gnome are notorious for bloat.
[05:21] <bruenig> raef55, the entire thing after the comma, all on one line
[05:21] <hassan2a> billstei:  what girl ?
[05:21] <raef55> thanks
[05:21] <marelo> and i'm running the game alone... nothing else running... i runned on windows xp with 256 mb ram in a 16mb video card... i don't think kde is the problem...
[05:21] <dsock> maddash: k, i'm actually pretty certain it's being detected. i see it in the device manager
[05:22] <superkirbyartist> Good guess, robtp, I'm on dialup, and it takes 100MB roughly.  robtp: criawips or kpresenter?
[05:22] <LOQUILLO_> brb
[05:22] <hassan2a> billstei:  what are you shot off he ?
[05:22] <robtp> superkirbyartist: ouchhhh it probably pulls in all of kdelibs and a good part of kdebase... i was talking about kpresenter
[05:22] <maddash> marelo: hardware acceleration problem? with the graphics card? maybe wine is emulating the graphix card via software. what card do you have?
[05:22] <arn0ld_> hi im having a problem, my mouse move way to fast and its already on the lowest settings availible in the gui, can anyone help
[05:22] <robtp> superkirbyartist: im not sure i can help you, sorry :( i gotta go work
[05:23] <marelo> maddash: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[05:23] <robtp> superkirbyartist: good luck
[05:23] <marelo> maddash: and i'm not using wine
[05:23] <maddash> dsock: ok, do "sudo ifup **" where "**" is the name of the network interface - something like eth0, eth1, etc
[05:23] <superkirbyartist> bye robtp thank you.
[05:23] <marelo> maddash: the game is linux native too
[05:23] <jeffbrown> when I explicitly invoke "hibernate" it seems to work.  I have configured my power prefs to hibernate when the lid is closed.  When I close the lid the machine does not hibernate.  Any tips?
[05:23] <cypruser> How do I change someone's user account password?
[05:23] <hassan2a> oh no billstei
[05:23] <Innomen>   ok my laptop is in here now, no more walking betyween rooms heheh
[05:23] <maddash> jeffbrown: is that a thinkpad?
[05:23] <jeffbrown> Hp Pavillion
[05:23] <maddash> jeffbrown: consider installing ibm-acpi or something
[05:23] <jeffbrown> dv4000
[05:24] <dsock> maddash: alright, thanks a lot
[05:24] <un_operateur> cypruser, issue the passwd command at a terminal
[05:24] <maddash> jeffbrown: you can usually config ubuntu to hibernate w/a  script
[05:24] <maddash> dsock: np
[05:24] <maddash> marelo: have you tried running unreal in windows on that same system?
[05:25] <jeffbrown> I am puzzled because hibernate appears to work, it just isn't triggered when I close the lid
[05:25] <marelo> maddash: no... here in my laptop i only have linux! =] 
[05:25] <marelo> windows only in my desktop
[05:25] <nelsonuwp> how do I find my primary nameserver IP
[05:25] <jarrod10> i dont suppose there is anyway to build ubuntu using optimized cflags huh
[05:26] <jbroome> go back to gentoo
[05:26] <maddash> jeffbrown: have you installed acpid?
[05:26] <jeffbrown> maddash: yes, acpid is installed
[05:27] <maddash> marelo: sorry, don't know how to continue from here. but I think it has to do with the way wine utilizes the graphic capabilities of your video card
[05:27] <con-man> !volume
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about volume - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <maddash> jeffbrown: in a cmd-line, issue "sudo gedit /etc/acpi"
[05:27] <con-man> !alsa
[05:27] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[05:27] <marelo> maddash: i said some lines ago, i'm not using wine. the game is linux native
[05:28] <con-man> !volume
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about volume - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <con-man> !levle
[05:28] <maddash> marelo: sorry - that's what a I meant. how the linux subsys interacts w/the graphics card...
[05:28] <con-man> !level
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about levle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about level - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <Innomen> how do i get to the command line so i can type in this sudo stuff?
[05:28] <con-man> !control
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about control - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <con-man> !sound
[05:28] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[05:28] <jeffbrown> maddash: /etc/acpi/ is a directory
[05:28] <marelo> maddash: humm ok then. thank anyway for your help/time
[05:28] <lovloss> I updated to the newest nvidia driver, and after a reboot it wont load kdm unless i go into dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and choose Vesa
[05:28] <maddash> innomen: press alt+f2 and type in "bash"
[05:28] <Innomen> i know thats lame but hey, super new
[05:28] <con-man> whats the command for volume control
[05:29] <Innomen> gotcha
[05:29] <lovloss> Innomen: you can use a terminal, or hit ctrl-alt-f1
[05:29] <maddash> jeffbrown: ach sorry. do "ls /etc/acpi/*"
[05:29] <Rprp`> Does someone know how to install google earth ?
[05:29] <con-man> whats the command for volume control
[05:29] <maddash> lovloss: it's ctrl+alt+f2, isn't it?
[05:30] <lovloss> maddesh: f1 here. maybe kubuntu is different
[05:30] <marelo> Rprp`: i think in the download page in the google site there are instructions...
[05:30] <con-man> anyone
[05:30] <Rprp`> hmm ok :X
[05:30] <Innomen> i see blackness, and a ~$
[05:30] <jeffbrown> maddash: there are a bunch of .sh files there
[05:30] <Innomen> so i'm in the right place i think
[05:30] <con-man> QQ
[05:31] <billstei> Innomen, go towards the light
[05:31] <ddwagnz> hello
[05:31] <levander> Anyone here using liferea as a feed aggregator?
[05:31] <lovloss> Innomen: you're in the right place
[05:31] <lovloss> Innomen: you will be there often
[05:31] <ddwagnz> question, with ubuntu shipping, what cd does it send live or install?
[05:31] <lovloss> live = install
[05:32] <jeffbrown> ddwagnz: the cd I downloaded was both a live cd and an install cd
[05:32] <ddwagnz> :/
[05:32] <Innomen> i typed "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant" and it said it couldent find the package
[05:32] <robtp> hi everyone: some of my keys dont work, can anyone help
[05:32] <jeffbrown> ddwagnz: I am not sure there is a difference any more
[05:32] <siv0x> does this: ln -s /home/siv0x/.wine/Program\ Files/steam/steam.exe look correct, so that i can, wine steam.exe ?
[05:32] <ddwagnz> thats alot of help if i ordered it
[05:32] <lovloss> ddwagnz: Install is an app in the live cd\
[05:32] <Innomen> i install the gnome thing *i think* how do i go back to the main screen and how to i start up gnome?
[05:32] <ddwagnz> okay
[05:32] <nelsonuwp> anyone in here on dialup?
[05:32] <ddwagnz> yesss!!!
[05:32] <robtp> siv0x: don't you need another argument to ln, or does it create one on . by default?
[05:32] <maddash> jeffbrown: sorry about the delay. there's supposed to be sh file.
[05:32] <rchf> Hi I am a Ubuntu seeker of knowledge - any advice on fixing video resolution (I have done what is in FixVideoResolutionHowTo)??
[05:32] <jeffbrown> maddash: there are a bunch of them
[05:33] <siv0x> robtp: i wouldnt know, thats why i'm asking : )
[05:33] <maddash> jeffbrown: do "sudo gedit /etc/acpi/actions/lid.sh"
[05:33] <marelo> i've just installed unreal tournament in my laptop (running kubuntu) but the game is too slow... what could the problem be?
[05:33] <jeffbrown> maddash: done
[05:33] <maddash> jeffbrown: when you close the lid, the linux kernel will execute the contents of that script
[05:33] <Innomen> how do i get back to the gui?
[05:33] <lovloss> #kubuntu is dead. anyone here know why i cant get into kdm (which i guess is isnt too far off from gdm) when i have my nvidia dfriver selected? :<
[05:33] <jeffbrown> maddash: ok... I will experiment with that a bit and see what I can figure out
[05:34] <maddash> jeffbrown: so i assume you want to hibernate when lid is closed. ergo, type in "hibernate" command into the lid.sh.
[05:34] <billstei> Innomen, Ctrl-Alt-F7
[05:34] <marelo> i've just installed unreal tournament in my laptop but the game is too slow... what could the problem be?
[05:34] <robtp> siv0x: try ln -s (that dir name) ./steam.exe
[05:34] <jeffbrown> maddash: do you know what files are manipulated when I click the button in power management UI?
[05:34] <Innomen> thanky
[05:35] <maddash> jeffbrown: huh ? what management ui?
[05:35] <siv0x> robtp, k i'll try, sec.
[05:35] <jeffbrown> maddash: System -> Preferences -> Power Management
[05:35] <clouseau_> I've installed 6.06 server on Parallels, and done sudo apt-get install apache2
[05:35] <cypruser> Has anyone here ever successfully installed Windows XP on VMware?
[05:35] <clouseau_> any idea how to actually start apache?
[05:35] <Innomen> so i now have an "about gnome" button, where is the rest of it heheh
[05:36] <nelsonuwp> anyone have any idea what a primary nameserver is?
[05:36] <maddash> jeffbrown: sorry, can't help you there. I didn't do a standard install of ubuntu. and I don't have gnome
[05:36] <jeffbrown> maddash: thanks
[05:37] <marelo> clouseau_: some systems is httpd start, some others is apache start
[05:37] <maddash> jeffbrown: anytime
[05:37] <robtp> suspend!! it works fine!!
[05:37] <maddash> grasshopper. lol.
[05:37] <marelo> clouseau_: or still apache2 start, but you have to pay atetion to the path...
[05:37] <Innomen> rebooting to kil time heheh
[05:37] <cypruser> nelsonuwp: I think a nameserver is a server that translates domain names to IP addresses.
[05:37] <Innomen> i
[05:37] <siv0x> robtp: okay, you are right, but i mistaken, i needed to do ln -s <diff dir> ./steam.exe how do i delete that ln -s ? so i can add the other one instead?
[05:38] <robtp> Can anyone tell me what the difference between suspend and hibernate is?
[05:38] <Innomen> i'll be around bbl thanks guys :)
[05:38] <nelsonuwp> cypruser: any idea how I can figure out what mine is?
[05:38] <clouseau__> and apache2ctl start returns apache2ctl: line 88: /usr/sbin/apache2: No such file or directory
[05:38] <robtp> you can just remove the steam.exe, all that file is is a link
[05:38] <cypruser> nelsonuwp: I think you can use any ISP's name server.
[05:38] <dsock> maddash: I got this message- "ifup: interface eth0 already configured"
[05:38] <robtp> siv0x: or you can make a new one using ln -sf, it will overwrite the old one (f being force)
[05:39] <jbroome> cypruser: you can, but it's not good netiquete.
[05:39] <jbroome> nelsonuwp: look at opendns.org
[05:39] <maddash> dsock: so were you able to connect? I assume that eth0 corresponds to your network card.
[05:39] <marelo> clouseau_ first you need to know where the apache2 binary is located
[05:39] <siv0x> robtp: i need it to be drive_c instead of wine: could not load L"Z:\\home\\siv0x\\Steam.exe": Module not found : (
[05:40] <rchf> anyone install Ubuntu on an Inspiron 9400?  I've got a video resolution problem?
[05:40] <marelo> i don't think it's in the sbin.... but i might be wrong
[05:40] <whopper> hi, i just installed the livecd for 6.06.1...it says the current release for firefox is 1.5.0.8, how do i fix this? (sorry im rather new to this :P)
[05:40] <robtp> siv0x: i might not be the one to ask
[05:40] <n1gke> rchf I didn't, but what is the trouble ?
[05:40] <marelo> after that you can just /patch/to/apache2/apache2 start
[05:40] <robtp> can anyone tell me how suspend differs from hibernate?
[05:41] <maddash> robtp: google. my friend.
[05:41] <dsock> maddash: eth0 is my network card.  but on the ASUS P5B Deluxe, there are TWO onboard ethernet jacks, only one is showing up. I was not able to connect
[05:41] <marelo> or put /path/to/apache2/ in your system PATH and just call apache2 start
[05:41] <clouseau__> marelo: normally I'd do "which apache2" to find it, but that returns nothing
[05:41] <robtp> maddash: ive been googling, but its still not exactly clear
[05:41] <maddash> dsock: 2 jacks? for 2 seperate cards?
[05:41] <robtp> maddash: hibernate is a form of suspend? i guess?
[05:41] <cypruser> robtp: Suspend does not turn off the computer. It just puts it in a low-power mode.
[05:41] <robtp> cypruser: and hibernate uses no power, ok thanks
[05:42] <marelo> clouseau_ that's because your system don't know where it is, but that doesn't means it isn't there ;)
[05:42] <marelo> i've just installed unreal tournament in my laptop (running kubuntu) but the game is too slow... what could the problem be?
[05:42] <rchf> n1gke: I have installed and the resolution only come up at 1048x768.  I have followed the FAQ and altered xorg.conf to even eliminate that option and the darn screen and the options and the gui remain in 1048x768.  I'm stuck.
[05:42] <maddash> dsock: if you have 2 cards, then does eth0 correspond to the right one?
[05:42] <marelo> clouseau_ try finding trough konqueror (or similar) I think is easier than LSing in shell
[05:42] <maddash> robtp: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Q_21677914.html
[05:43] <dsock> maddash: good point.  I hadn't thought about switching the cable.
[05:43] <clouseau__> marelo: I only have a shell. How do I install the desktop environment?
[05:43] <maddash> robtp: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Q_21677914.html#15568488
[05:44] <maddash> clouseau__:
[05:44] <marelo> clouseau_ no need than. i would just be easier...
[05:44] <dsock> maddash: but I don't understand why only one of them show up.
[05:44] <maddash> clouseau__: sudo aptitude install x-window-system-core
[05:44] <maddash> clouseau__: then after that, issue "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop"
[05:45] <marelo> clo
[05:45] <marelo> clouseau_ try find / -iname 'apache2'
[05:45] <marelo> clouseau_ sudo find...........
[05:45] <maddash> dsock: not sure I comprehend. you're telling me that "sudo ifconfig -a" doesn't show the proper network card?
[05:46] <maddash> dsock: I assume you did a standard ubuntu install via an install cd. during the installation, did the installer detect both cards?
[05:47] <dsock> maddash: i forgot to try that. the only thing i tried was "sudo ifup **"
[05:47] <maddash> dsock: good god.
[05:47] <robtp> cypruser: how much/little is the power consumption in suspended state?
[05:47] <dsock> maddash: the install said nothing of network cards
[05:48] <maddash> dsock: the install should've attempted to detect network interfaces. all of them. wireless/wired/modem/whatever.
[05:48] <cypruser> robtp: I suppose it depends on your computer.
[05:49] <maddash> dsock: if you didn't do "sudo ifconfig -a" , then how do you know what to put for "sudo ifup **"???
[05:49] <hagabaka> where is the default library path defined? no LD_LIBRARY_PATH is set
[05:49] <cafuego_> hagabaka: in the ld-linux
[05:49] <dsock> maddash: i looked it up in device manager, actually
[05:50] <kenthomson> Happy New Year!!! :)
[05:50] <dsock> maddash: and i remember from earlier ubuntu installations, that the install would look for network interfaces, but i did not notice it this time.
[05:50] <maddash> oh crap - gotta chk nbc 4
[05:50] <Rprp`> Hmm, how vcan i install a .bin file?
[05:50] <elyon> Hello, everyone.  Here again asking for help with my Radeon performance.  I installed the latest Linux x86 drivers from ATI but my performance is terrible.  I ran glxinfo and it reported that my Direct Rendering is off.
[05:50] <maddash> dsock: again, do a "sudo ifconfig -a". that's all I have to say.
[05:51] <kenthomson> !ati | elyon
[05:51] <ubotu> elyon: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:51] <dsock> maddash: okay, thanks for your help
[05:51] <elyon> Also reports my OpenGL vendor is Mesa something or other...
[05:51] <kenthomson> elyon:  please follow the instruction over there and you should be fine
[05:51] <STV0726> I have a problem when trying to load UBUNTU
[05:51] <elyon> kenthomson - I followed that guide yesterday and it screwed things up badly.
[05:51] <marelo> i've just installed unreal tournament in my laptop (running kubuntu) but the game is too slow... what could the problem be?
[05:51] <kenthomson> elyon:  really? what happened?
[05:51] <elyon> kenthomson - more specifically, whenever I logged off, the screen would get garbled and the system locked up.
[05:52] <Angelus> hey eveyone! :)
[05:52] <elyon> Installing the ATI drivers fixed that.
[05:52] <Rprp`> Hmm, how vcan i install a .bin file?
[05:52] <maddash> rprp`: just run it
[05:52] <Angelus> what wondering if thunderbird could connect with hotmail?
[05:52] <maddash> rprp`: if you want, you could copy it over to /usr/bin
[05:52] <Rprp`> oke
[05:52] <Rprp`> ty
[05:53] <kenthomson> Rprp`:  Open a terminal navigate to the folder where the .bin is, and then type "sh <name_file.bin>
[05:53] <maddash> kenthomson, rprp`: good god. no way. .bin is not the same as .sh
[05:53] <maddash> god
[05:54] <Rprp`> But it works
[05:54] <Rprp`> :x
[05:54] <h3xis> Angelus, not anymore
[05:54] <Dewi> does the default 6.10 kernel support LVM?
[05:55] <Angelus> is there an e-mail program that does?
[05:55] <Dewi> I installed the lvm2 tools package, but pvcreate keeps saying to me: "No program "pvcreate" found for your current version of LVM"
[05:55] <h3xis> Angelus, no. hotmail does not allow it anymore
[05:56] <Angelus> oh ok, it does with outlook in windows
[05:56] <h3xis> Angelus, because it's built in
[05:56] <Angelus> cool thanks
[05:56] <elyon> Hello, everyone.  Here again asking for help with my Radeon performance.  I installed the latest Linux x86 drivers from ATI but my performance is terrible.  I ran glxinfo and it reported that my Direct Rendering is off.
[05:56] <elyon> Also reports my OpenGL vendor is Mesa something or other...
[05:57] <elyon> I have already followed the instruction in the Ati Binary HowTo... no luck.
[05:57] <maddash> !time
[05:57] <ubotu> time: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB
[05:57] <rchf> elyon: you got more of a response that I did.  Video problems may be to individual for the forum?
[05:57] <maddash> no geez
[05:57] <maddash> i want the official time
[05:57] <rchf> I have a similar problem but not as bad.
[05:58] <juanchito2006> !ati
[05:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:58] <elyon> rchf - its strange because everyone I talk to hasn't had any problems with 3D performance, but I have on EVERY distro I've tried.
[05:58] <maddash> ergo, hardware problem
[05:59] <rchf> elyon: I was about to start installing the ATI drivers to see how that went.  You saying its a bad course?  I haven't tried 3D much so not much help there - sorry.
[05:59] <juanchito2006> elyon: the howto has changed steadily, check it again
[05:59] <elyon> rchf - I wouldn't say it was a bad thing... just hasn't helped.  The how to caused a lot of problems for me, that's all.
[05:59] <nnlinux> happy new years
[06:00] <maddash> noooooooooooooooooo
[06:00] <poningru> happy new year all
[06:00] <Dewi> Is it possible to boot a 6.10 live CD with LVM2 support?
[06:00] <juanchito2006> HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
[06:01] <maddash> my life! it's all slipping away!
[06:01] <elyon> Feliz ano nuevo
[06:01] <rchf> elyon: wish the howtos had some "why" in there as well.  I'm using an Inspiron 9400 with an ATI Mobility Radeon x1400 - you?  (happy new year)
[06:01] <dsock> maddash: "sudo ifconfig -a" produced about 3 paragraphs of results.
[06:01] <elyon> rchf - I'm using a Radeon 9600
[06:01] <maddash> dsock: "sudo ifconfig -a > ~/netdat"
[06:02] <maddash> then open the file
[06:02] <maddash> dsock: and read at your own pace
[06:02] <maddash> dsock: you have to open "~/netdat"
[06:02] <violot> happy new years :)
[06:02] <dsock> maddash: k
[06:03] <dsock> maddish: thanks again
[06:03] <billstei> rchf, I have Radeon 9200 and I tried to get 3D working and it didn't go well.  Gave up until I get a lot smarter.
[06:03] <maddash> dsock: np. that's a lot of network interfaces, btw.
[06:03] <elyon> Permission denied when trying to open xorg.conf?  I'm in super user mode
[06:03] <juanchito2006> elyon: try sudo chown (user) (directory)
[06:04] <elyon> juanchito2006 - I just used file browser to open it ;)
[06:04] <rchf> elyon: did you you try to run through the guidance in the FixVideoResolutionHowTo (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto)?
[06:04] <elyon> juanchito2006 - I'll try the HowTo again, but I did it yesterday and it messed things up.
[06:04] <un_operateur> elyon, and you have a super-user file-browser?
[06:04] <Mike_> hello
[06:04] <elyon> un_operateur - apparently... it didn't say permission denied this time lol
[06:05] <rchf> billstei: I'm not even trying to get 3D working.  Just trying for the full 1440x900 I had under ubuntu before my latest reinstall.  Any ideas?
[06:05] <un_operateur> it's going to be an interesting new year seeing what people do :)
[06:05] <maddash> does anyone here use popularity-contest?
[06:05] <Mike_> I am needing some help with the moint points. I don't want to screw up my windows install
[06:05] <greatgazoo> HNY from EST everybody!
[06:06] <maddash> mike_: be specific. what help do you need?
[06:06] <un_operateur> maddash, i do, well, i have it installed and it does it's thing, can't say i "use" it
[06:06] <kenthomson_> Mike_:  mount your windows partition as /media/windows and don't click on the format checkbox next to it, and you should be ready
[06:06] <maddash> unoperateur: it works in the background?
[06:07] <billstei> rchf, not much of an expert, but I edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually and inserted 1600x1200 res that I wanted and I have that now.  It did not auto-detect my monitor correctly
[06:07] <maddash> un_operateur: god your name is so tedious to the fingers. pop-contest works in the background?
[06:07] <un_operateur> maddash, yea, as a cronjob or something, everyday when APT looks for updates and so
[06:07] <un_operateur> maddash, I could say your name is tedious too -- mad<TAB> :d
[06:08] <Mike_> I am not sure what mount points to use. /dev/hda1 is windows and /hda5 is free
[06:08] <un_operateur> maddash, yea, popcon is mostly unobtrusive
[06:08] <Mike_> what mount point and partition do I select?
[06:09] <maddash> un_operateur: my program sucks. no autocomplete. for me, popcon is unobtrusive as the sky until I open synaptic.
[06:09] <maddash> MIKE_: are you running the installer or something?
[06:09] <un_operateur> maddash, how does it interfere? it shouldn't
[06:10] <Mike_> yes. I am using the installer that is in Ubuntu. I just downloaded it
[06:10] <Mike_> I am at the section where it says prepare mount points
[06:10] <maddash> un_operateur: I think I have geek ocd or something. I can't stand having programs I can't use. everytime I see it in synaptic, my fingers act on their own accord and purge it from the disk
[06:10] <marelo> i've just installed unreal tournament in my laptop (running kubuntu) but the game is too slow... what could the problem be?
[06:11] <elyon> juanchito2006 - what do I do when the HowTo instruction lead me to "Errors were encountered"?
[06:11] <rchf> billstei: thanks, I did that a few times and made sure the resulting xorg.conf doesn't have 1048x768 even in it and yet - there it is still in 1048x768.  Weird.  I also did autodetect and that produced a new and somewhat interesting xorg.conf but no change in video resolution in the display.  Almost like I'm editing the wrong xorg.conf (I checked).
[06:11] <maddash> mike_: so what do you want? how many partitions u got so far?
[06:11] <maddash> un_operateur: then, my conscience kicks in and i reinstall it
[06:11] <Mike_> I just have 2
[06:11] <Mike_> one has windows and the other is free
[06:11] <maddash> mike_: so you want to add a third one for ubuntu?
[06:11] <maddash> mike_: ok. I assume windows is ntfs, rah?
[06:12] <Mike_> I would like to use the 2nd partition
[06:12] <raef55> are there debian pkgs  for kaabase and kaa metadata
[06:12] <dmc_> i just did an apt-get for kubuntu...how do i start using KDE?
[06:12] <Mike_> yes it is ntfs
[06:12] <un_operateur> maddash, popcon is purely optional, you dont really need it although the ubuntu-dev teams could do with stats polled from your setup
[06:12] <maddash> mike_: do you know which partition is which based on what the installer shows?
[06:12] <maddash> un_operateur: I don't think they'd get much from my bare-bones install. haha.
[06:13] <billstei> rchf, maybe it falls back on the VESA driver and ignores the xorg.conf ?  I have no idea, sorry, just ignorant guessing
[06:13] <maddash> un_operateur: anyway, I think I'll *rationally* get rid of it for once and for all. good riddance.
[06:13] <dmc_> i just did an apt-get for kubuntu...how do i start using KDE?
[06:13] <un_operateur> maddash, neither do they with mine, but i have it anyway, i believe no matter how small your contribution is, it's a contribution nonetheless (to the bigger picture anyway)
[06:14] <maddash> mike_: assuming you do, go to "manually edit partition table," select the partition you want ubuntu to be installed to,
[06:14] <Mike_> hda1 is windows hda2 is ext3 and hda 3 is extended
[06:14] <maddash> mike_: and change the mount point to "/"
[06:14] <rchf> billstei: maybe - I'm pretty new to this level of the dungeon.
[06:14] <billstei> rchf, there be radeon dragons
[06:15] <maddash> un_operateur: what? you're my jiminy cricket conscience now?
[06:15] <maddash> mike_: so mount "/dev/hda3" as "/"
[06:15] <dmc_> How do i start KDE?
[06:15] <juanchito2006> elyon: ?
[06:15] <kenthomson> dmc_:  at the logic screen go to options and choose a KDE session, and then logic wth your username/password, you will end up in KDE if you have kde-desktop package installed
[06:15] <maddash> un_operateur: j/k. sudo aptitude install popularity-contest, I guess
[06:15] <rchf> billstei: you aren't kidding.  Lets hope their new owners (AMD), do follow through on hints of opening the source.
[06:16] <un_operateur> maddash, you could say -- was just justifying why i kepy popcon on my barebones install :)
[06:16] <kenthomson> rchf:  AMD/ATI are BS, they don't OS their drivers. Use INTEL
[06:16] <un_operateur> s/kepy/keep/
[06:16] <dmc_> sukenthomson: said the package could not be found
[06:16] <dmc_> kde-desktop
[06:17] <rchf> kenthomson: yes, but Dell put the part into the laptop and the warranty on their boxes kicks butt.
[06:17] <ringo> list
[06:17] <billstei> rchf, i think the radeon issues (for me) began when XFree86 switched to XOrg, but at least I'm actually back running linux now
[06:17] <maddash> un_operateur: what setup do you have? server install? wm? panel? browser? x.org? xfree86?
[06:17] <dmc_> kenthomson: said could not find the package
[06:17] <un_operateur> maddash, well, yea, if you can afford 188 bytes of install space and 1 minute of cronjob time everyday, why not? install it? :)
[06:17] <maddash> un_operateur: haha, 'cept w/my poorman's system, it's about 4 min of cron time
[06:18] <un_operateur> maddash, mine's a xorg/xdm/fluxbox
[06:18] <rchf> billstei: what is the 3D supposed to do, not really 3D right?  Faster polygonal rendering?
[06:18] <dmc_> How do you go about installing kde?
[06:18] <un_operateur> maddash, poorer than my 1ghz/256MB box?
[06:18] <amicrawle> i add the lates src for amarok  how i get the update now
[06:19] <amicrawle> i did  a sudo update amarok right?
[06:19] <billstei> rchf, i don't actually do any gaming, but my Firefox renders very slow, and I hate that
[06:19] <maddash> un_operateur: finally. a non-xfce purist. what's your panel? or does flux come w/one already? how do you get your desktop icons? xdm= login screen?
[06:19] <un_operateur> amicrawle, sudo aptitude update
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> amicrawle: You got src or packages?
[06:19] <amicrawle> i src list
[06:20] <rchf> billstei: there are some firefox tweaks out there.  I tried them and they did wonders.  Should be available as an extension called "fasterfox".
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> amicrawle: what?
[06:20] <billstei> rchf, actually all the 2D window move/redraws are slow
[06:20] <elyon> !ati
[06:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:20] <un_operateur> maddash, I don't use a "panel", fluxbox has a "slit" which you can configure -- I dont use desktop icons, why have them anyway if you are never going to use them -- and yea xdg is the lighter counterpart to gdm
[06:20] <Mike_> maddash I have 3 lines for the mount points and 3 for the partitions
[06:20] <amicrawle> i did a  sudo aptitude update
[06:20] <un_operateur> s/xdg/xdm/
[06:21] <maddash> un_operateur: my development sys: 192 ram/501 mhz. haha.
[06:21] <Mike_> msg maddash so the first mount point should be /?
[06:21] <elyon> great... now firefox doesn't work anymore
[06:21] <billstei> rchf, for a minute there I actually thought the browser WAS the operating system
[06:21] <amicrawle> i just got firefox 3
[06:21] <jarrod10> question, since ubuntu is precompiled for i386, wouldnt it not be optimized for newer computers, meaning running it on them will be slower than it could be?
[06:21] <maddash> un_operateur: xdg? or xdm? I'm confused...
[06:21] <un_operateur> maddash, that does quite well unless you play the latest version of quake :)
[06:21] <un_operateur> maddash, my next post s///ed that mistake :)
[06:22] <un_operateur> maddash, xdm 'twas
[06:22] <rchf> billstei: I can see how that could get old fast.  Can you try avoiding the problem by finding if there is a way to have window moves just be outlines?  Yes - Netscape was right but just to early with the slogan to save itself from M$'s heel.
[06:22] <amicrawle> ok i see there amarok is at 1.44  i'm at  1.3.9
[06:22] <amicrawle> how do i get uptodate
[06:23] <maddash> un_operateur: haha thanks for the info. my new setup's going to run faster than xp, I think.
[06:23] <cypher1> amicrawle, sudo apt-get install amarok
[06:23] <pengulord> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-11877293110734541
[06:24] <un_operateur> jarrod10, compiling some program for i386 and runnint it on a i[56] 86 does not necessarily make it slower -- but yea, i686 software uses the full potential of an i686 system and performs better than a i386 alternate
[06:24] <un_operateur> running them*
[06:24] <maddash> Mike_: I'm confused. what do you mean 3 lines?
[06:24] <un_operateur> maddash, what do you currently use?
[06:25] <billstei> rchf, not sure if window moves can be tweaked, but I'm too stubborn to change it.
[06:26] <Mike_> on my screen there is 3 columns, the first is mount point then size then partition
[06:26] <unikon> anyone what is the best expense tracker/budget tracker for linux?
[06:26] <maddash> un_operateur: right now? xp. I'm trying to build a new setup on my thinkpad (which is considerably faster than my dev machine, but gnome bogs it down)...so far, I've got a server setup, x-windows-system-core, openbox/obconf, idesk, and fbpanel. and firefox, but I'm going to purge it in favor of dillo.
[06:26] <elyon> Okay, one more question - why does Synaptic and Add/Remove tell me I need to update my lists EVERY time I run them?
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> unikon: gnucash looks decent, but I haven't messed with it much yet
[06:27] <maddash> elyon: b/c it's fun. for synaptic.
[06:27] <Mike_> under mount point and partition there are 3 places ( sections) that I can change
[06:27] <maddash> elyon: you can change that under synaptic preferences, I think
[06:27] <maddash> elyon: otherwise use aptitude
[06:27] <unikon> gnucash is ok  but id like to check out kbudget http://tinyurl.com/yh6ztt
[06:27] <elyon> maddash - it didn't use to do this, though.  Now it always says the list is out of date...
[06:28] <rchf> billstei: I hope you win  and write it up!
[06:28] <maddash> MIKE_: ok, so select "/dev/hda2" and delete the partition.
[06:28] <un_operateur> maddash, well, that sounds good enough -- kinda similar to mine but I have to use gnome tho (i wish i didnt have to) at times mainly due to Evolution and a few others
[06:28] <maddash> mike_: then you'll have a chunk of free space
[06:28] <Mike_> right.. I did that
[06:28] <maddash> mike_: after the format, select the free space and mount it as "/" or whatever. the default option is for ubuntu to use that free chunk as it's residing partition.
[06:29] <amicrawle> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:29] <amicrawle>   amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable
[06:29] <amicrawle> E: Broken packages
[06:29] <maddash> un_operateur: why not just kick out gnome and do openbox + evol?
[06:29] <amicrawle> what does the mean?
[06:29] <amicrawle> that
[06:29] <amicrawle> mean
[06:29] <maddash> amicrawle: isntall libvisual.
[06:30] <maddash> amicrawle: install*
[06:30] <cypher1> amicrawle, can you please paste the whole thing at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:30] <rchf> billstei: can you tell me where one gets/finds 'aticonfig'?
[06:30] <un_operateur> maddash, well, mainly because i can't be asked to do a non-gnome thingy plus it's only evol that's a "pain" (non-issue really)
[06:30] <billstei> rchf, gonna get a new MB with dual core and nvidia, because no computer is truly happy until it jumps right off the desk and finishes even before you tell it to begin
[06:31] <amicrawle> can't find it in my src pile
[06:31] <maddash> un_operateur: so you have 2 sep sessions? for gnome and flux?
[06:31] <un_operateur> maddash, I got enough memory to spare that's doing nothing, I can afford to let Evolution be greedy
[06:31] <maddash> un_operateur: hah. nice.
[06:31] <rchf> billstei: sounds like something we all need.  I just don't want it finishing my sentences for me.
[06:32] <un_operateur> maddash, no no, just one session -- but I run the gnome-settings-daemon in the background, so some apps have a gnome-ish feel to them
[06:32] <amicrawle> <cypher1 just did
[06:32] <maddash> un_operateur: why not just get a gnome theme for flux?
[06:32] <billstei> rchf, i don't have aticonfig
[06:32] <un_operateur> maddash, because my theme rocks better :)
[06:33] <cypher1> amicrawle, please tell us the URL
[06:33] <billstei> rchf, but now that I know that others have it I want it
[06:33] <hepme> why does ubuntu come with a /mnt directory if everything is mounted in /media ?
[06:33] <amicrawle> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:33] <cypher1> amicrawle, which version of ubuntu are you on
[06:33] <amicrawle> dapper
[06:33] <rchf> billstei: !  all the FAQs on drivers for ATI keep mentioning it.  Must be obvious but haven't stumbled into it.  thx
[06:33] <maddash> huh?
[06:33] <cypher1> amicrawle, no the number you get when you submit it
[06:33] <amicrawle> want to goto edgy
[06:33] <un_operateur> hepme, "cross-compatibility" with software written for other distros i suppose
[06:33] <nomasteryoda|w> hepme, because most linux distros use /mnt as a temporary mounting point..
[06:34] <nomasteryoda|w> nice
[06:34] <maddash> !ops
[06:34] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[06:34] <Rookie_> !ops
[06:34] <un_operateur> !ops
[06:34] <maddash> !ops
[06:34] <maddash> !ops
[06:34] <maddash> !ops
[06:34] <maddash> !ops
[06:34] <amicrawle> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/84/
[06:34] <maddash> god
[06:34] <elkbuntu> wow um..cute
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> indeed
[06:35] <violot> 0.0
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> NEWS YEAR?
[06:35] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, yeah so stupid they're cute
[06:36] <rchf> billstei: thanks - gotta go - happy new year.
[06:36] <al> I got a problem about using Ubuntu, can anybody help?
[06:36] <elyon> Wow... that was really kind of you.
[06:36] <Rookie_> !ask
[06:36] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:37] <maddash> mike_: how's it coming? did it work?
[06:37] <violot> al, go ahead 'n' ask! ;)
[06:37] <al> First, I can see the Full Words in the Xchat view, why?
[06:37] <al> thank u
[06:37] <Innomen> so how do i start up gnome
[06:37] <Innomen> ?
[06:38] <jbroome> startx
[06:38] <maddash> !ops
[06:38] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[06:38] <maddash> god
[06:38] <h3xis> maddash, save meeeeee
[06:38] <violot> *sigh*
[06:38] <h3xis> lawl
[06:38] <flashnet> what a lamer
[06:38] <elkbuntu> more smarts...
[06:38] <jarrod10> someone is hacking this?
[06:39] <elkbuntu> jarrod10, not this, just a few hundred computers
[06:40] <jbroome> who ya gonna call?!
[06:40] <Innomen> happy new year h3xis
[06:40] <Innomen> didja miss me?
[06:40] <h3xis> same to you dear sir
[06:40] <h3xis> indeed
[06:40] <flashnet> do u think thats can be named hacking?? just a kiddie with clons
[06:40] <Innomen> sweet
[06:40] <Innomen> so, how do i start up gnome?
[06:40] <h3xis> er...
[06:40] <h3xis> what do you mean
[06:40] <Innomen> like i think i installed it
[06:40] <cypher1> amicrawle, what is the output of "lsb_release -d" ?
[06:40] <flashnet> startx gnome-session :P
[06:41] <Innomen> i just cant find hwo to use it, the networking config stuff all looks the same
[06:41] <Innomen> oky
[06:41] <un_operateur> Innomen, errm. have you got kubuntu installed or something else?
[06:41] <amicrawle> no clue what that is
[06:41] <Innomen> ubuntu
[06:41] <maddash> who the heck is nalioth, anyway?
[06:41] <un_operateur> Innomen, and you got no GUI up?
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> maddash: Freenode staff.
[06:41] <un_operateur> maddash, an op
[06:41] <al> Another question, I had installed a FireStarter for my ubuntu, but When I try to start it , it said PPP0(my internet connection) not actived, fail to start it
[06:41] <amicrawle> howto find that out ?
[06:41] <al> can any body help? thanks
[06:42] <maddash> well, I know that, but I see him on #ubuntu all the time
[06:42] <cypher1> amicrawle, please run "lsb_release -d" and let us know what it outputs
[06:42] <Rookie_> al - whats your prob ?
[06:42] <maddash> does he live next to his comp or something?
[06:42] <maddash> how does he manage that?
[06:42] <maddash> or she?
[06:42] <amicrawle> Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[06:42] <Mike_> maddash..
[06:42] <jbroome> maddash: wait, you don't?
[06:42] <h3xis> maddash, worm holes
[06:42] <hepme> wow i've never seen someone says "what's your prob?" in a non-rhetorical way
[06:42] <Innomen> startx gnome-session caused a "fatal error"
[06:42] <al> Another question, I had installed a FireStarter for my ubuntu, but When I try to start it , it said PPP0(my internet connection) not actived, fail to start it . It
[06:42] <nalioth> maddash: join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:43] <maddash> innomen: what's the rest?
[06:43] <dmc_>  Anyone know hot to reinstall the Etherape and "Network" Gui Apps?
[06:43] <maddash> nalioth: omg. you're not a bot.
[06:43] <Innomen> i dont know i alt-ctrl f7 back into the gui
[06:43] <Innomen> is there nothing from within the gui to start it?
[06:43] <al> Another question, I had installed a FireStarter for my ubuntu, but When I try to start it , it said PPP0(my internet connection) not actived, fail to start it . It's a pppoe connection, it already dialed and eth0 is ok either, buy why, thanks
[06:43] <maddash> nalioth: got it, won't go too off-topic again
[06:43] <Rookie_> al - i dont use firestarter so i cant answer that ... i write my own ...
[06:43] <maddash> innomen: uhh.."gui" usually implies that you are running gnome already
[06:44] <Innomen> ubuntu alone has a gui
[06:44] <h3xis> al, why are you wanting to run firestarter on a ppp connection?
[06:44] <Innomen> like where i see applications places aystem etc
[06:44] <Mike_> maddash, I am still confused (sorta still a n00b) I just dont want to make a mistake and trash windows
[06:44] <un_operateur> Innomen, ubuntu's GUI is gnome
[06:44] <al> I'm a newbie to linux, so i can't set up firewall without firestarter
[06:44] <maddash> mike_: what's wrong?
[06:44] <al> something like it, simple
[06:44] <Innomen> ?
[06:44] <waterpear> h3xis, it's pppoe, not ppp
[06:44] <h3xis> al, why do you need to change the default rules?
[06:44] <h3xis> ahhh
[06:44] <h3xis> ok
[06:44] <Mike_> ok.. I have 22.26 gig of free space
[06:45] <Innomen> i'm being given conflicting data here
[06:45] <maddash> innomen: ubuntu runs gnome by default. chances are, if you haven't tinkered too much, you ARE running gnome. gnome = gui.
[06:45] <amicrawle> and dsl run over ethernet
[06:45] <Innomen> its a good thing i'm not a robot
[06:45] <Innomen> no
[06:45] <amicrawle> not pppoe
[06:45] <al> default rules? Can default rules allow aMule or Az p2p.. these things?
[06:45] <h3xis> X is the gui, not gnome
[06:45] <Innomen> you guys told me to "sudo apt-get install gnome-network-manager, then add the network-monitor applet to your panel"
[06:46] <Innomen> how do i "add network etc.."
[06:46] <Mike_> on the mount points.. I don't see the 22 gig
[06:46] <amicrawle> al you relly don;t need to be running thoes apps
[06:46] <cypher1> amicrawle, try running synaptic and fix the broken packages and then installing amarok
[06:46] <h3xis> al, yes, those will work
[06:46] <Innomen> so is everything i install gunna be hidden like this?
[06:46] <al> what apps i dont need?  amule?
[06:46] <Innomen> is it really so hard ot have like a programs folder and a button for the netowrk configration tool i had to install?
[06:47] <amicrawle> amule is very dead
[06:47] <al> h3XIS, how to do that?  use the default rules, IPTAbles?
[06:47] <h3xis> al, you dont need to mess with them, theyre fine as is
[06:47] <maddash> innomen: right click on your taskbar.
[06:47] <al> oh, very dead, what you using P2p?
[06:47] <Innomen> top or bottom
[06:47] <maddash> mike_: uhh...that's b/c there's a chunk of *free space*...
[06:48] <al> ubuntu didnt start a firewall  by default, isnt it?
[06:48] <maddash> mike_: after deleting the partition, did you "Write changes to the disk"?
[06:48] <rye78> I got a small stupid question for you ubuntu users, I'd first liek to say I know my way around linux (recompiling linux, changing permissions, basic stuff like that), and before i moved to ubuntu...is ubuntu...well..'respectable'?, I dont want to be using something that is like...fisher price.  I hope someone knows what I mean so they can elaborate =/
[06:48] <amicrawle> i don't any more
[06:48] <amicrawle> just ftp
[06:48] <amicrawle> faster
[06:48] <amicrawle> or bittorrent
[06:48] <Mike_> yes.. I wrote the changes
[06:48] <h3xis> rye78, depends who you ask
[06:48] <Innomen> i see no gnome in the list of things ot add tot he bar
[06:48] <h3xis> rye78, i think it is, but it's fine, really
[06:48] <Innomen> perhaps i didnt install it properly
[06:49] <rye78> I'd use pure debian, but I can NEVER get gnome looking good, ha, im terrible with X
[06:49] <xtknight> rye, i think its like debian with a better skin and nicer community...its not overnewbified or anything
[06:49] <h3xis> Innomen, you did
[06:49] <rye78> And ubuntu looks secksi
[06:49] <Innomen> is there a something like "run" where i can send command lin stuff from within the gui?
[06:49] <xtknight> innomen: press alt f2
[06:49] <h3xis> Innomen, run nm-applet from terminal
[06:49] <Innomen> thank you
[06:50] <h3xis> rye78, it's the same XD just get a secksi theme
[06:50] <waterpear> i like alt+f2
[06:50] <maddash> mike_: so you don't see anything left of the 22 gb? just "/dev/hda1" and "/dev/hda3"?
[06:50] <Innomen> "could not find nm-applet"
[06:50] <h3xis> Innomen, as sudo?
[06:50] <Innomen> err could not open location
[06:50] <Mike_> ok.. I just created a new partition
[06:50] <al> hello.. Ubuntu didnt start a firewall by default, isnt it?  how terrible without at least a simple firewall in the world
[06:50] <Innomen> define "as sudo"
[06:50] <h3xis> al, yes, it does
[06:51] <Innomen> !sudo
[06:51] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:51] <h3xis> Innomen, sudo nm-applet
[06:51] <Innomen> i see
[06:51] <jbroome> al: it doesn't beacuse it doesn't have ports open by default
[06:51] <Innomen> one moment
[06:51] <xtknight> just for reference use gksudo for running gnome programs as super user
[06:51] <h3xis> xtknight, why?
[06:51] <xtknight> or gksu, same thing i think
[06:51] <rye78> h3xis, I could never get any distro looking as nice (in my eyes) as my old fedora box:  http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f239/codvx/Screenshot-1.png
[06:51] <xtknight> i dont know exactly :P
[06:51] <xtknight> thats just what ive always been told
[06:51] <Innomen> heh this time nothing happened
[06:51] <Mike_> I have hda1, 2, 3 and 5
[06:51] <Innomen> no error no nothing
[06:51] <amicrawle> al why do you want a firewall
[06:52] <h3xis> rye78, that theme is bluecurve. just find it and use it :P
[06:52] <xtknight> i heard if u ran gnome apps  without gksu theres a rare chance something could get corrupted
[06:52] <Music_Shuffle> !firewall | al
[06:52] <ubotu> al: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:52] <Innomen> !gnome
[06:52] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[06:52] <h3xis> xtknight, im not saying youre right or wrong, ive just never herd that
[06:52] <h3xis> heard*
[06:52] <Mike_> 1 is windows, 2 is ext3, 3 is extended and 5 is ext3
[06:52] <Innomen> !wpa
[06:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:52] <billstei> Innomen, you can also make launchers by right clicking on the desktop and picking "Create Launcher..."
[06:52] <amicrawle> or kmyfirewall
[06:52] <xtknight> ill have to be honest most of the time i dont even bother with gksu ;)
[06:52] <dmc_> !KDE
[06:52] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[06:52] <QwertyM> rye78, that movie running is?
[06:52] <blake_> Wow, it's gnome marketing -- in bot form ;)
[06:52] <maddash> mike_: i thought you said that you only have 3 partitions...
[06:52] <h3xis> Innomen, do you have something new in your system tray?
[06:52] <jbroome> underworld?
[06:53] <Innomen> not that i can tell
[06:53] <xtknight> anyone here have a JMicron controller on their motherboard?
[06:53] <Innomen> ONE MOMENT
[06:53] <Innomen> sorry caps
[06:53] <maddash> mike_: and you wanted to install ubuntu to hda2, rah? didn't I tell you before to delete hda2?
[06:53] <al> Did you guys mean, on a lonely pc, it is not neccessary to setup a firewall, or its not useful?
[06:53] <xtknight> or core 2 duo system and is experiencing freezing?
[06:53] <h3xis> al, it's not necessary. it is fine as is
[06:53] <amicrawle> al it's relly not useful
[06:54] <Mike_> I delted hda2 when you told me to
[06:54] <amicrawle> your in the *nix world now
[06:54] <al> So you dont have any firewall?
[06:54] <amicrawle> people relly don;t mess with your system unlike windows
[06:54] <amicrawle> al
[06:54] <amicrawle> no
[06:54] <h3xis> al, iptables is a firewall
[06:54] <Music_Shuffle> ...you still technically have one.
[06:54] <xtknight> what's the default iptables config?
[06:54] <jbroome> off
[06:54] <xtknight> to block all anonymous requests?
[06:54] <amicrawle> just my falt on
[06:54] <maddash> mike_: you still should be able to see some trace of the free space...
[06:55] <maddash> mike_: restart the installer. press ctrl+alt+del.
[06:55] <al> thank u all^
[06:55] <xtknight> i think suse is the only one with a default enabled firewall, maybe fedora.  i dont see a need for it with linux other than for servers, etc
[06:55] <amicrawle> did you just move from windows?
[06:55] <al> fedora
[06:55] <bruenig> !firewall
[06:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:55] <hepme> does shareware exist in the linux world, or only completely free or completely commercial?
[06:55] <al> yes, me
[06:55] <amicrawle> ah good ol redhat
[06:55] <Music_Shuffle> bruenig, I already directed him to it. Dunno if he read it or not though.
[06:55] <h3xis> hepme, it's all free
[06:55] <Kingsqueak> ubuntu has iptables enabled too, just without any chains in it and a default ALLOW policy
[06:55] <Mike_> you want me to restart the whole thing?
[06:56] <Innomen> brb
[06:56] <hepme> h3xis i mean from 3rd party people
[06:56] <bruenig> hepme, virtually no shareware
[06:56] <h3xis> hepme, it's still free
[06:56] <xtknight> hepme: well yes but i believe it's against the GNU linux philosophy....take VMware for linux, for example
[06:56] <asc__> firestarter is nice for easy router makeing
[06:56] <h3xis> hepme, right
[06:56] <hepme> not all software for linux is free though
[06:56] <asc__> So in a WAY having a firewall is useful....
[06:56] <xtknight> i think u'd consider that shareware..i dont know but its not open source is it
[06:56] <Rookie_> If you stay online alot and on longer periods, then you should have a firewall - but if you only remain in short periods its not necessery to have a firewall
[06:56] <xtknight> vmware workstation, specifically
[06:56] <h3xis> hepme, it is all "free"
[06:56] <bruenig> hepme, free as in no $
[06:57] <hepme> free has two meanings though
[06:57] <bruenig> hepme, except a few apps like cedega
[06:57] <h3xis> right
[06:57] <xtknight> theres free software which means no $, and then there's freedom software by the FSF definition
[06:57] <h3xis> it's all free as in you can do whatever you want with the code
[06:57] <h3xis> but price is a diff subject
[06:57] <bruenig> h3xis, no, flash is not free as in code
[06:57] <hepme> h3xis well you're wrong on that count too since there are some linux things that dont come with source code, such as blobs :P
[06:57] <maddash> mike_: well, press "esc" first. get out of the partition manager.
[06:57] <bruenig> yeah there are some blobs, but very few
[06:58] <xtknight> nvidia/ati drivers actually
[06:58] <maddash> mike_: then select "partition hardrive" from the list,
[06:58] <h3xis> bruenig, if i wanted i could get the code from adobe
[06:58] <xtknight> but aren't they including non-free in Feisty by default?  how is that legal?
[06:58] <al> Linux is free, but it's not cheap, I nearly cant afford it
[06:58] <al> did you agree?
[06:58] <maddash> mike_: then select "manually edit partition table" if it's available...
[06:58] <Music_Shuffle> Its free and cheap. >.>
[06:58] <bruenig> h3xis, no you couldn't
[06:58] <bruenig> h3xis, unless you have some sort of inside there, like you are a developer or something
[06:58] <h3xis> bruenig, you sure? i was told you could a long time ago when macromedia owned it
[06:59] <al> I need to buy a CROssOver office to run Photoshop 7
[06:59] <hepme> is ubuntu ever going to get rid of the code names, they don't seem to make understanding the versions any easier than using numbers, dates even that makes it more clear
[06:59] <Music_Shuffle> They're not going to toss you their code >.>
[06:59] <al> and a EIO office
[06:59] <xtknight> i think every linux distro has a codename so i doubt they'll get rid of it
[06:59] <bruenig> h3xis, you can't get it, I am sure, look at things like gnash, if you could just get the code, there would be no gnash
[06:59] <Music_Shuffle> hepme, its...very very simple. It progresses with the alphabet. I can't see it being any simpler with numbers, the sequencing idea is simple.
[06:59] <amicrawle> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:59] <amicrawle>   amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable
[06:59] <amicrawle> E: Broken packages
[06:59] <h3xis> bruenig, alright, i stand corrected :P
[07:00] <amicrawle> i get this all the time
[07:00] <al> and Cedega for game
[07:00] <xtknight> i mean, it makes it easy to refer to stuff.  I can say Sarge, Feisty, Edgy, all the linux people know what im talking aobut, i dont have to say debian 3.1, it's too lengthy to type out every time
[07:00] <hepme> how is warty warthog in alphabetical order
[07:00] <vvlaw> what's going on?
[07:00] <vvlaw> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:00] <xtknight> vvlaw: close synaptic
[07:00] <xtknight> or use sudo
[07:00] <crimsun> hepme, who said it was in alphabetical order?
[07:00] <Music_Shuffle> They are now! ;P
[07:00] <hepme> Music_Shuffle:
[07:00] <Mike_> ok.. hang on
[07:01] <Lam_> i have a cue file with a huge flac file. is there a program i can use to chop the flac album file into smaller tracks as specified in the cue file?
[07:01] <khaije1> I'm trying to setup a webbrowsing proxy using this command 'ssh -D 1111 user@host' but it isn't working.
[07:01] <Mike_> ok.. I just selected manually edit partition table
[07:01] <hepme> can't you just use export to make a web proxy
[07:02] <al> my most hope, is GIMP will good for hand draw.
[07:02] <khaije1> the web browser stalls but doesn't fail as it does when i don't set up the tunnel, any advice?
[07:02] <quad3d> HAPPY NEW YEAR! CST!
[07:02] <Mike_> the top of the window says prepare partitions
[07:02] <hepme> if gimp supports /dev/wacom then it could be good for drawing
[07:02] <quad3d> yer geeks
[07:02] <al> is the xchat still work? am I off line?
[07:02] <khaije1> hepme: this is inside a corp firewall, so i have to use ssh to my home machine
[07:02] <Mike_> I see /dev/hda1 on the left and /dev/hda5 on the right
[07:03] <waterpear> al, you're on
[07:03] <zcat[1] > what cpmand tells me what version of ubuntu I'm running?
[07:03] <zcat[1] > *command
[07:03] <quad3d> rm -rf /*
[07:03] <quad3d> no, don't do that :)
[07:03] <xtknight> zcat: `uname -a` is a pretty good indicator..we can tell u from there
[07:03] <QwertyM> lmao
[07:03] <khaije1> zcat[1] : cat /etc/version iirc
[07:03] <rye78> Little Nicky's on TBS :D
[07:03] <hepme> not funny, there are people in this chan naive enough to do that
[07:03] <billstei> that is just evil
[07:04] <hepme> considering that many are completely GUI users
[07:04] <zcat[1] > cat: /etc/version: No such file or directory
[07:04] <h3xis> hepme, gotta learn somehow XD
[07:04] <quad3d> lol
[07:04] <Kingsqueak> cat /etc/lsb-release
[07:04] <zcat[1] > Cool, that's what I needed .. writing a script like easyubuntu ..
[07:05] <billstei> zcat, uname -r
[07:05] <khaije1> tilda
[07:05] <Mike_> maddash?
[07:05] <bruenig> !version
[07:05] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[07:05] <maddash> mike_: uh...what distro are you using? dapper? edgy?
[07:05] <cafuego_> lsb_release -a
[07:05] <khaije1> oops!
[07:05] <QwertyM> lol
[07:05] <zcat[1] > uname -r is just the kernel version... lsb_release is what I need
[07:05] <maddash> mike_: sorry...got tied up elsewhere. do you see the 22 gb of free space?
[07:05] <hepme> why does lsb_release say 'no lsb modules avaialble'
[07:06] <TheItalianGuy> Hi Guys, what's the best program for screen caps on dvds?
[07:06] <amicrawle> <er/.kpackage/libvisual-0.4-dev_0.4.0-1~dapper1_i386.deb' ;echo RESULT=$?
[07:06] <amicrawle> Selecting previously deselected package libvisual-0.4-dev.
[07:06] <amicrawle> (Reading database ... 224449 files and directories currently installed.)
[07:06] <amicrawle> Unpacking libvisual-0.4-dev (from .../libvisual-0.4-dev_0.4.0-1~dapper1_i386.deb) ...
[07:06] <amicrawle> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libvisual-0.4-dev:
[07:06] <amicrawle>  libvisual-0.4-dev depends on libvisual-0.4-0 (= 0.4.0-1~dapper1); however:
[07:06] <amicrawle>   Version of libvisual-0.4-0 on system is 0.4.0-1.
[07:06] <khaije1> why does it seem like i'm the only person who ever does that?
[07:06] <amicrawle> dpkg: error processing libvisual-0.4-dev (--install):
[07:06] <amicrawle>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[07:06] <QwertyM> !
[07:06] <amicrawle> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:06] <amicrawle>  libvisual-0.4-dev
[07:06] <amicrawle> RESULT=1
[07:06] <amicrawle> 
[07:06] <cafuego_> !paste > amicrawle
[07:06] <QwertyM> pastebin amicrawle !!!
[07:06] <amicrawle> this is what i get  when i install this deb file
[07:06] <h3xis> omg
[07:06] <Mike_> this is edgy
[07:06] <cafuego_> amicrawle: Please don't do that again.
[07:06] <amicrawle> ok just a little frustrated
[07:06] <zcat[1] > grep -q "edgy" /etc/lsb-release || zenity --error --text "This script was written for edgy. Using it anywhere else will probably trash your install"
[07:06] <xtknight> it's just too long to post big error messages thats all, IRC doesnt take too well to it and it causes lag
[07:07] <hepme> and now everyone is just a little frsutrated. irc is not a word processor :p
[07:07] <Kingsqueak> grep CODENAME /etc/lsb-release | cut -d = -f 2
[07:07] <xtknight> but to fix your problem...u need a newer  version of the package libvisual that is all
[07:07] <amicrawle> how do i get that
[07:07] <Mike_> I do see the 22 gig of free space
[07:07] <asc__> Hey, I'm in a pm with shayguy.  He needs to put a hex key into the configuration thing for a wireless device, and the password field is too short.  It's  13 characters (the hex string is 26), and doesn't translate into a typeable string.
[07:07] <maddash> mike_: aha! great!
[07:08] <maddash> mike_: select the free space
[07:08] <xtknight> amicrawle: sorry, actually it looks like you downloaded a non-ubuntu debian package or something..
[07:08] <maddash> mike_: the rest should be intuitive...
[07:08] <TheItalianGuy> hey guys, what program would you use to take screen caps with DVD's??????
[07:08] <amicrawle> Index of /ubuntu/pool/main/libv/libvisual
[07:08] <vvlaw> xtknight,  i did not use the synaptic to install soft
[07:08] <amicrawle> i got it from there
[07:08] <xtknight> vvlaw: that message will happen if you have synaptic open, or if you do not prefix the 'apt-get install' command with sudio
[07:09] <xtknight> sudo* sorry
[07:09] <khaije1> cafuego - is the lsb stuff new for edgy?
[07:09] <hepme>  what does lsb stand for
[07:09] <Mike_> Do I use hda1 as the mount point for partition hda1
[07:10] <khaije1> linux standards base > hepme
[07:10] <xtknight> least significant bit? linux standards base? i dont know
[07:10] <hepme> /media/hda1
[07:10] <vvlaw> xtknight,yes...maybe i apt-get install something and something to crash
[07:10] <Mike_> then use / as the mount point for partition hda5?
[07:10] <xtknight> vvlaw: what are you trying to install and how?   use this to install a package from the terminal: sudo apt-get install package-name
[07:11] <maddash> mike_: yes, don't change the mount points of the partitions you want left untouched
[07:11] <khaije1> has anyone had success using ssh for arbitrary tunneling?
[07:11] <rye78> WHy can't I su - in terminal in ubuntu?
[07:11] <h3xis> khaije1, yes
[07:11] <rye78> I ahve to type sudo all the damn time
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> !sudo | rye78
[07:11] <ubotu> rye78: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:11] <Mike_> ok
[07:11] <rye78> It's annoying
[07:11] <xtknight> rye78: su is disabled in ubuntu.  `sudo -H -s` is the equivalent to `su`
[07:11] <h3xis> khaije1, but i cant remember how to do it off the top of my head :/ been long time
[07:11] <vvlaw> just now, i tried to "sudo apt-get install mplayer win32codecs
[07:11] <rye78> oh
[07:11] <maddash> mike_: um, why hda5? is that where you want to install ubuntu?
[07:11] <h3xis> su isnt disabled
[07:11] <maddash> mike_: select the free space...
[07:12] <Mike_> free space is hda5
[07:12] <h3xis> rye78, if you want su back type sudo makepasswd and choose a root password and you will be able to use su from then on
[07:12] <xtknight> vvlaw: you are still getting the same error message?
[07:13] <Innomen> this is not good
[07:13] <Mike_> hda3 is extended 22 gig free
[07:13] <Innomen> i still cant start the network manager
[07:13] <khaije1> h3xis: i haven't been able to figure out what I'm doing wrong, I'm trying to use the -D option for dynamic (socks-style) forward proxy tunneling. In my case it's mostly just to evade corporate content filter
[07:13] <vvlaw> xtknight,yeah...maybe there have something to interrupt
[07:13] <Innomen> http://www.linux.org.mt/node/82
[07:13] <amicrawle> how do i fix broken pkgs  in shell
[07:13] <Innomen> i get to step 7 basicly
[07:13] <h3xis> khaije1, give me a second while i look at mine. i havent used it since high school XD
[07:13] <Innomen> "gnome-network-manager showing available wireless networks"
[07:13] <xtknight> vvlaw: are you sure the synaptic program is not open?
[07:13] <maddash> mike_: should install fine, I think
[07:14] <Innomen> i dont have "gnome-network-manager"
[07:14] <Innomen> apprently
[07:14] <khaije1> h3xis: if anything comes to mind, could you PM me? i need to go afk, back in 10 mins :-)
[07:14] <xtknight> vvlaw: i can't think of any other reason why that error would occur
[07:14] <h3xis> khaije1, yes :)
[07:14] <h3xis> Innomen, it's not called that. you want network-manager-gnome
[07:14] <[shroom] > My Xorg segfaults vanished after I removed the second DIMM, leaving only one memory channel.
[07:14] <xtknight> amicrawle: what do you mean by broken?
  will you help mr
[07:14] <Innomen> "An applet will show up in the gnome notification area."
[07:14] <vvlaw> xtknight,do you use mplayer ?
[07:14] <Innomen> where is this "notification area"
[07:14] <xtknight> vvlaw: yes sometimes
[07:14] <TheItalianGuy> hey guys, what program would you use to take screen caps with DVD's?????????? Please!!
[07:14] <amicrawle> well you would have to pm  me
[07:14] <maddash> mike_: is it installing now?
[07:15] <cmweb> Happy New Year !
[07:15] <vvlaw> xtknight,install it by apt-get install?
[07:15] <Mike_> says no root file system
[07:15] <amicrawle> to see what i'm getting in to
[07:15] <h3xis> TheItalianGuy, xine maybe?
[07:15] <Innomen> h3xis: i found it and installed it but i dont know how to start it
[07:15] <xtknight> vvlaw: yes i did:  sudo apt-get install mplayer
[07:15] <h3xis> Innomen, gimme a sec to find it
[07:15] <h3xis> Innomen, are you in edgy?
[07:15] <xtknight> vvlaw: but i have not tried w32codecs
[07:15] <Innomen> see in wdonows it would be start programs Etc, or program files, where in the hell does ubuntu hide installed apps?
[07:15] <Innomen> one moment
[07:15] <khermans> is there a separate SPARC channel?
[07:15] <cmweb> innomen, applications
[07:15] <h3xis> sparc <3
[07:15] <cmweb> at the top
[07:16] <Mike_> maddash, it says no root file system
[07:16] <Innomen> cmweb then its not there
[07:16] <khermans> h3xis, sparc == h8
[07:16] <maddash> mike_: geez. tell me exactly what you did with the freespace in the partition manager before.
[07:16] <h3xis> no!!!
[07:16] <h3xis> do not talk about sparc in such a way
[07:16] <vvlaw> xtknight,yesterday i did  that.and it worked fine.but it showed the mp3lib error.so i tried to reinstall by the sources
[07:16] <khermans> h3xis, tell me how to issue STOP-A from a PC keyboard ;-P
[07:16] <Mike_> ok let me back up
[07:16] <h3xis> khermans, what?
[07:17] <Innomen> waiting for "about ubuntu" to load
[07:17] <khermans> h3xis, i got a sunblade 150 i want to run Ubuntu on
[07:17] <Innomen> it started and then vanished heh
[07:17] <xtknight> vvlaw: so mplayer is not installed at the moment?
[07:17] <Innomen> 6.10 is the cd i have
[07:17] <Innomen> i used the "alternate install"
[07:17] <cmweb> Why would my machine have an active HDD light on if no processes but gaim are taking place? i mean it is really acting up i have no utilities that user the hardrive yet it is constantly doing this and slowing my machine down
[07:18] <h3xis> khaije1, erf. i have a sunblade 150 and i have solaris on it
[07:18] <h3xis> oops
[07:18] <h3xis> i mean khermans
[07:18] <vvlaw> it was installed.but the video don't have the xv output
[07:18] <xtknight> cmweb: maybe it is updating your file system search index??
[07:18] <khermans> cmweb, updatedb ?
[07:18] <xtknight> vvlaw: ok, so you tried to recompile to get the xv output, correct?
[07:18] <h3xis> khaije1, that's with putty
[07:18] <cmweb> I duno but i wish it would stop
[07:18] <vvlaw> xtknight,yes :)
[07:18] <HymnToLife> cmweb, "no process bunt gaim" <= I highly doubt it
[07:18] <khermans> cmweb, install iostat
[07:19] <xtknight> vvlaw: did you use apt-get source -b, or did you download the source and do ./configure , etc ??
[07:19] <maddash> mike_: ? what's going on?
[07:19] <cmweb> hymmtolife, well no processes that would take up a lot of hdd
[07:19] <Mike_> maddash,  with the free space I created an extended partition (hda3) which is 22gig then there is another partition hda5 that is unknown and is also 322 gig
[07:19] <Innomen> c:\program files\gome.exe
[07:19] <asc__> I need to automagically setup a wireless network using the command line.  The ESSID and key are known.  Does anybody have *any* idea how to do this?
[07:19] <cmweb> khermans, il try it
[07:19] <zcat[1] > "This script comes with NO WARRANTY, is highly experimental, and probably shouldn't be run by anyone, anywhere, for any reason."
[07:19] <khermans> h3xis, yeah but i want to run ubuntu -- i dont have a sun keyboard
[07:19] <xtknight> asc__: look at iwconfig, the manual is at `man iwconfig`
[07:19] <maddash> mike_: no no no
[07:19] <h3xis> khermans, err cant help you there
[07:19] <maddash> mike_: geez. delete the hda3 partition you created...
[07:19] <asc__> xtknight: it's too durned complicated for me :p
[07:19] <Innomen> its not like i'm asking for something insanely complex here
[07:19] <h3xis> Innomen, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[07:19] <Mike_> ok
[07:20] <vvlaw> xtknight , of cause.use ./configure --enable-gui --enable-real --enable-mp3lib...and so on
[07:20] <Innomen> h3xis: give me your answers for each version i would answer with
[07:20] <xtknight> asc__: do you know the interface name of your wireless card?
[07:20] <Innomen> assume i said whatever it is you want to hear
[07:20] <h3xis> Innomen, if youre in edgy you already have it running
[07:20] <vvlaw> xtknight,but i forgot to add the ./configure --enable-xv fuction
[07:20] <Innomen> ok so how to i see it
[07:20] <asc__> xtknight: Oh, yeah.  Yes.
[07:20] <xtknight> vvlaw: ok, did you get to 'make install'?
[07:20] <h3xis> Innomen, edgy is the latest
[07:20] <Innomen> cus when i click the card i get nothing
[07:20] <xtknight> vvlaw: oh i see, so you compiled it to begin with and didn't use the mplayer out of the apt-get repository?
[07:20] <Mike_> done.. now I have 22 gig of unalocated space
[07:20] <vvlaw> xtknight,yes.use the command"make && sudo make install"
[07:20] <h3xis> Innomen, are you on wired or wireless
[07:20] <Innomen> assume it is running how do i make it visable?
[07:21] <cmweb> khermans, iostat is not in my repositories, it has been doing this at every start up
[07:21] <asc__> xtknight: it's made more difficult because I'm trying to walk somebody else through it and I've never set up a wireless network before. :p
[07:21] <Innomen> wireless
[07:21] <xtknight> asc__: iwconfig eth0 essid SSIDNAME
[07:21] <maddash> mike_: afterwards, if you still see the free space, select it,
[07:21] <h3xis> Innomen, do you see something that looks like bars like on a cell phone interface?
[07:21] <xtknight> asc__: iwconfig eth0 ap any
[07:21] <h3xis> Innomen, showing a signal strength
[07:21] <Innomen> pcmcia linksys which i think it sees, but its too stupid to display avilable networks
[07:21] <khermans> cmweb, sudo aptitude install sysstat
[07:21] <Innomen> no
[07:21] <Innomen> i do not
[07:21] <h3xis> Innomen, one sec
[07:21] <xtknight> asc__: and then watch iw..log i think it is....iw then press tab, theres a wireless interface log
[07:21] <Mike_> selected
[07:22] <vvlaw> xtknight,i compiled it after i apt-get install later.
[07:22] <maddash> mike_: choose "/" as your mount point, but don't use up the entire 22gb...leave about 2-3 gb
[07:22] <h3xis> Innomen, so when you run sudo nm-applet what do you get
[07:22] <Innomen> gah.pm me, i gotta go thanks h3xis :)
[07:22] <Innomen> nothing
[07:22] <Innomen> nothing happens
[07:22] <h3xis> Innomen, what do you mean
[07:22] <Innomen> i did that before
[07:22] <xtknight> vvlaw: ok, so is mplayer installed right now?  you are trying to install the mplayer from apt-get instead now, correct?
[07:22] <h3xis> do you get an error
[07:22] <h3xis> or what
[07:22] <Innomen> just that
[07:22] <Innomen> click, and nothing happens
[07:22] <h3xis> o.o
[07:22] <Innomen> yea
[07:22] <Innomen> i would prefer an error
[07:22] <maddash> mike_: with the remaining 2-3gb, mount is as "swap"
[07:22] <asc__> xtknight: Okay, thanks
[07:22] <Innomen> anyway
[07:22] <Innomen> i gone
[07:22] <Innomen> sory :/
[07:22] <h3xis> arg
[07:22] <Innomen> thanks again :)
[07:23] <Innomen> bbl
[07:23] <h3xis> Innomen, this is not finished!
[07:23] <vvlaw> xtknight,yes :)
[07:23] <xtknight> vvlaw: alright, so i guess we're back to the beginning...u typed `sudo apt-get install mplayer` and you are getting this error: `E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?`
[07:24] <zcat[1] > If I have a string like "foo bar baz", what's the most elegant way in bash script to test if "baz" is in that string ? something prettier that "echo $string" | grep -q "baz" - &&
[07:24] <maddash> mike_: sorry, I just realized that you're running the GUI installer, not the text mode version I'm used to
[07:24] <arrenlex> zcat[1] : if echo $a | grep baz ; do
[07:24] <vvlaw> xtknight,certainly :)
[07:24] <Mike_> Iam sorry I was not more clear..
[07:24] <xtknight> vvlaw: type this and tell me the output:  ps ax | grep synaptic
[07:24] <arrenlex> zcat[1] : Or is that what you want to avoid?
[07:25] <maddash> mike_: does it work?
[07:25] <zcat[1] > arrenlex: echo | grep is what I wanted to avoid... but I can't see anything better :(
[07:25] <Mike_> I am still new to linux installs,,
[07:25] <Mike_> I am getting there
[07:25] <maddash> mike_: don't worry about that, everyone had to have been new at some point
[07:25] <h3xis> maddash, BS. i was born knowing how to use linux.
[07:25] <zcat[1] > I guess I should probably write this in python.. but I know bash best. I'm not much of a coder :)
[07:25] <vvlaw> xtknight, vvlaw@vvlaw-laptop:~/tools/player/MPlayer-1.0rc1$ ps ax | grep synaptic
[07:25] <vvlaw> 19240 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep synaptic
[07:25] <vvlaw> vvlaw@vvlaw-laptop:~/tools/player/MPlayer-1.0rc1$
[07:26] <maddash> h3xis: oh yeah? well let's see how you do w/o my protection, mr. gnu-fanboy.
[07:26] <maddash> h3xis: j/k. rofl.
[07:27] <h3xis> XD
[07:27] <xtknight> vvlaw: can you tell me exactly what you are typing that causes that error?
[07:27] <khermans> zcat[1] , what r u writing?
[07:28] <zcat[1] > khermans: postinstall script kinda like easyubuntu, but not using the very unreliable plf repos...
[07:28] <vvlaw> xtknight  maybe i install something by the apt and it crash there.but i forgot what software i install:(
[07:29] <xtknight> vvlaw: type this: sudo apt-get install
[07:29] <xtknight> put nothing after 'install'...this will just check your apt-get system
[07:29] <khermans> vvlaw, sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[07:29] <h3xis> damn, vvlaw just log out and log back in or restart haha
[07:29] <h3xis> it'll close whatever is using apt-get
[07:29] <khermans> zcat[1] , we dont need another one of those scripts
[07:30] <khermans> hehe sorry
[07:30] <maddash> mike_: I think I was wrong. you might have to convert the free space to ext3 before partitioning it...
[07:30] <maddash> mike_: just don't partition the whole thing...leave some for the swap.
[07:30] <xtknight> vvlaw: just do what kherman said...it should fix your problem..we already verified u didn't have synaptic open and you're using sudo so something just went wrong...
[07:30] <maddash> mike_: so essentially, you're splitting the 22gb into 20 gb for "/" and 2 gb for "swap"
[07:31] <vvlaw> khermans, yeah...it worked fine...
[07:31] <zcat[1] > I need one .. easyubuntu doesn't install everything I want and plf is down whenever I want to use it. And automaticx breaks stuff.
[07:31] <vvlaw> xtknight, yes. i fixed :)
[07:31] <Mike_> maddash, I am trying to make the 3 gig for swap and it is giving me an error
[07:31] <vvlaw> but do i need to remove the mplayer first ?
[07:31] <Mike_> says it cant create it
[07:31] <vvlaw> mplayer is already the newest version.
[07:31] <vvlaw> w32codecs is already the newest version.
[07:31] <khermans> zcat[1] , what do you need?
[07:32] <xtknight> vvlaw: no, not really.  but you can do this: sudo dpkg --purge mplayer w32codecs
[07:32] <xtknight> vvlaw: and then do: sudo apt-get install mplayer w32codecs.....after all that it will definitely be what is in the repositories and not what you compiled yourself
[07:32] <khermans> vvlaw, save yourself some trouble an use vlc
[07:32] <maddash> mike_: what's wrong?
[07:33] <zcat[1] > sensible source-list with universe, multiverse, backports and seveas repos. w32 and stuff, 3d, lotsa games, hydrogen, mednafen, mame, wine..
[07:33] <vvlaw> xtknight, something got
[07:33] <vvlaw> vvlaw@vvlaw-laptop:~/tools/player/MPlayer-1.0rc1$ sudo dpkg --purge mplayer w32codecs
[07:33] <vvlaw> (Reading database ... 105221 files and directories currently installed.)
[07:33] <vvlaw> Removing mplayer ...
[07:33] <vvlaw> Purging configuration files for mplayer ...
[07:33] <vvlaw> Removing w32codecs ...
[07:33] <vvlaw> dpkg - warning: while removing w32codecs, directory `/usr/lib/codecs' not empty so not removed.
[07:33] <maddash> for the record, having gparted in the edgy installer is a HUGE mistake. the textmode installer from breezy and dapper were just fine...so developers, if you're out there, take heed.
[07:33] <xtknight> vvlaw: please use pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org )  just copy the text there and paste the URL it gives you
[07:33] <xtknight> vvlaw: but only for the next time you have to paste something
[07:34] <asc__> xtknight: should 'sudo iwconfig interface [essid]  "[essid] " key [key] ;sudo ifup [interface] ' work, in your estimation?
[07:34] <xtknight> vvlaw: that warning is fine, just install mplayer and w32codecs again
[07:34] <khermans> zcat[1] , adding many third-party repos is not revommended
[07:34] <Mike_> maddash, hang on a sec
[07:34] <zcat[1] > I'm adding seveas and wine only..
[07:34] <khermans> zcat[1] , thats like a one line script!
[07:34] <amicrawler> can any body see me
[07:34] <bruenig> maddash, yeah the text installers were great, they were very intuitive I thought, but I guess some couldn't use them
[07:34] <asc__> er, interface [interface]  essid "[essid] "
[07:34] <xtknight> asc__: it is: 'sudo iwconfig interface essid [essid] '....im not sure what u need to do after that
[07:35] <xtknight> amicrawler: yes i can help u, in pm
[07:35] <bruenig> maddash, you can always use the alternate isos
[07:35] <zcat[1] > not if you want pretty dialogs and the ability to select what you want...
[07:35] <asc__> xtknight: Okay.  Thanks.
[07:35] <xtknight> asc__: i would do `sudo ifdown interface`, then `sudo dhclient interface`...u should be good to go
[07:35] <maddash> bruenig: I guess...but then I'd have to spend 1.5 hrs dl-ing one iso only to find out that i need another.
[07:35] <khermans> zcat[1] , here you go for universe/multiverse -> sudo sed -i 's/main restricted$/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:35] <xtknight> asc__: after the ESSID thing that is..and watch the wireless interface log
[07:36] <xtknight> asc__: that would be at `iwevent`
[07:36] <zcat[1] > khermans: and automatically fetch repo keys?
[07:36] <bruenig> maddash, no you wouldn't, you would know get the alternate iso
[07:36] <maddash> bruenig: well, then again, I'd never dl edgy...no lts.
[07:37] <bruenig> maddash, are you on server or something
[07:37] <Mike_> maddash, wish me luck..
[07:37] <maddash> bruenig: why?
[07:37] <bruenig> I mean how much support do you need
[07:37] <maddash> mike_: why? you got the swap partition up?
[07:37] <Mike_> yes
[07:37] <bruenig> If they support for 18 months, I am going to stop using edgy in 6 months anyways, so not a big deal
[07:37] <Mike_> just hope I have it configured correctly
[07:37] <maddash> mike_: ok. nice going. let me know how it turns out
[07:38] <maddash> mike_: provided that the install doesn't take too long
[07:38] <Mike_>  the / is 19 gig and going to hda3
[07:38] <maddash> bruenig: oh. let me rephrase. "well then again, I'd never dl edgy. i'm caveman."
[07:38] <Mike_> the swap is going to hda4
[07:38] <Mike_> sounds right
[07:39] <maddash> mike_: did you defrag your ntfs before partitioning?
[07:39] <Mike_> no
[07:39] <asfalt> hey, is there a gui tool for configuring WPA wifi connections in edgy?
[07:39] <maddash> mike_: ouch. careful.
[07:39] <Mike_> it was already partitioned along time ago
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> !wifi | asfalt
[07:39] <ubotu> asfalt: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:39] <maddash> mike_: nvm then
[07:39] <maddash> mike_: are you installing now?
[07:39] <Mike_> I did not adjust hda1
[07:40] <Mike_> installing
[07:40] <Mike_> should not take long
[07:41] <xtknight> what's the command to show every version of a given package (it shows every version u can get from all the repositories in ur index)?
[07:41] <Mike_> it is a 1.8ghz 64 bit laptop
[07:41] <asfalt> thank you
[07:41] <maddash> xtknight: aptitude?
[07:41] <xtknight> maddash: yeah, i dont know the command line for it tho
[07:41] <Mike_> as soon as this installs I need to get to bed
[07:42] <maddash> xtknight: errr...."sudo aptitude"?
[07:42] <vvlaw> xtknight,http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/87/
[07:42] <xtknight> maddash: there is an argument you pass aptitude, but i dont know what it needs to be
[07:42] <m4jqp> my friend just installed unbuntu and he says that it didnt ask him to imput an root pass ... how can he find/make a new one? (just installed)
[07:42] <vvlaw> xtknight, something did not reinstall.
[07:42] <DBO> !root | m4jqp
[07:42] <ubotu> m4jqp: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:42] <vvlaw> xtknight,and did not repleace it
[07:43] <m4jqp> no quick and dirty?
[07:43] <DBO> m4jqp, does he REALLY want a root password?
[07:43] <m4jqp> you need it to do almost anything
[07:43] <DBO> no you dont
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> Not true
[07:43] <maddash> m4jqp: sudo passwd
[07:43] <DBO> thats what sudo is for
[07:43] <m4jqp> well to install stuff you need it
[07:43] <DBO> m4jqp, have him type his password when installing
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> Read the wiki page ^^
[07:43] <DBO> m4jqp, sudo apt-get install package will prompt for a passowrd
[07:44] <xtknight> vvlaw: it looks like your mplayer fonts are missing
[07:44] <m4jqp> said it didnt ask him to imput it
[07:44] <maddash> m4jqp: open a cmdline, do "sudo passwd"..."su" can be configured via "sudo su".
[07:44] <DBO> he then types his password
[07:44] <DBO> maddash, generally we dont advertise that method right away
[07:44] <m4jqp> ok thx
[07:44] <xtknight> vvlaw: i really don't know what to do from there, the fonts should be available online somewhere
[07:44] <DBO> we like to teach about sudo first
[07:44] <khaije1> h3xis: oh ok, that is the exact equivalent of what i'm doing...
[07:45] <h3xis> khaije1, you did that and it doesnt work?
[07:45] <khaije1> did you need to change any sshd settings? ya...
[07:45] <maddash> DBO: "we"? KISS.
[07:45] <h3xis> nope
[07:45] <amicrawler> does any body know how to chat voice dcc ?
[07:45] <maddash> DBO: he didn't ask for a lesson.
[07:45] <vvlaw> xtknight, lol.. the font is not important. the xv output and alsa support is aimportant
[07:46] <Mike_> maddash, half way thru copying files
[07:46] <h3xis> khaije1, have you taken into account that your corp has port 22 blocked?
[07:46] <DBO> maddash, opening up root directly will present security issues
[07:46] <maddash> mike_: ok, gtg pass out. good luck.
[07:46] <DBO> later
[07:46] <xtknight> vvlaw: oh, i thought that error was stopping you
[07:46] <xtknight> vvlaw: my mplayer has xv and alsa support and i didnt compile it :/
[07:47] <Mike_> Thanks for the help maddash
[07:47] <vvlaw> xtknight,yeap . yester i apt and install it , it has xv and alsa support
[07:47] <vvlaw> xtknight,but from i compiled it , they were gone :(
[07:48] <cmweb> !sysstat
[07:48] <ubotu> sysstat: sar, iostat and mpstat - system performance tools for Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 146 kB, installed size 644 kB
[07:48] <khaije1> h3xis: it's not that, straight ssh is fine, i can do X-forwarding as well
[07:48] <cmweb> How do i use sysstat?
[07:48] <hepme> is Synaptic package manager a product of GNOME or is it ubuntu specific? I ask because it allows you to manage repositories but not all linux distros use apt-get like repositories yet can still run GNOME
[07:49] <xtknight> vvlaw: that is very odd..... so `mplayer -vo help` reports no xv when you use the apt-get version of mplayer?
[07:50] <cmweb> OK i got the thing installed khermans but what now?
[07:50] <h3xis> hepme, it was developed for debian
[07:50] <hepme> what other s ystems besides debian and ubuntu/kubuntu use debian like packages
[07:50] <Rprp`>   ChanServ dikkie Rprp Yogho|Bed ZwarteCobra {-_-}
[07:51] <vvlaw> xtknight, maybe .because i want to back of that version
[07:51] <cmweb> khermans, now what i got it installed
[07:52] <h3xis> hepme, xandros i think
[07:53] <xtknight> vvlaw: sorry, i guess you will have to compile again..  i dont know why xv is not in your version by default though
[07:53] <hepme> whats a strong coffee? coffee with mountain dew in it?
[07:53] <xtknight> dark french roast
[07:53] <Mike_> can you set up Ubuntu so that when you change desktops it looks like you are changing to a different side of a "cube"
[07:53] <juanchito2006> Colombian
[07:53] <vvlaw> xtknight,do you know the xv support fuction? --enable-xv?
[07:54] <xtknight> Mike_: yes, use Beryl or XGL/compiz
[07:54] <xtknight> vvlaw: i don't know, sorry, all i know is XV is enabled for me when I do `sudo apt-get install mplayer`.  ive never had to compile mplayer for XV or alsa support
[07:54] <Mike_> is it grapgics card dependant?
[07:54] <zcat[1] > Mike_ very..
[07:54] <Mike_> *graphics
[07:54] <xtknight> Mike_: you need drivers that do accelerated opengl, i think only intel, nvidia and ati will work with it
[07:55] <Mike_> I have an ATI Radeon 200m express
[07:55] <vvlaw> xtknight, it's ok...thanks for your help :)
[07:55] <asc__> Is there a program in a defauly install that can translate hex into text?
[07:55] <jarrod10> nick
[07:55] <cmweb> mike, i got the same except i got 400 series (not sure which one)
[07:56] <cmweb> How do i get beryl, apt-get ?
[07:56] <zcat[1] > asc__: python asc() will do one character at a time. Not sure what else will do it
[07:56] <Mike_> I am sure it can handle it.. It has 128 megs of ram on it
[07:56] <asc__> zcat:okay, that should work
[07:57] <cmweb> How is beryl obtained
[07:57] <xtknight> cmweb: just google `ubuntu beryl`
[07:57] <xtknight> zcat: isn't that for decimal ASCII, not hex?
[07:58] <cmweb> i wish this thing would stop indexing
[07:59] <cmweb> is thweir any way to make it stop doing that
[07:59] <vvlaw> xtknight,i tried to recompile it
[07:59] <vvlaw> vvlaw@vvlaw-laptop:~/tools/player/MPlayer-1.0rc1$ ./configure --enable-gui --enable-network --enable-real --enable-mp3lib --enable-alsa --enable xv
[07:59] <cmweb> its draging my performance dowwn with it
[07:59] <zcat[1] > xtknight: python will interpret 0xNN correctly though..
[07:59] <xtknight> vvlaw: you are missing a dash/hyphen at the end of your command
[07:59] <vvlaw> vvlaw@vvlaw-laptop:~/tools/player/MPlayer-1.0rc1$ ./configure --enable-gui --enable-network --enable-real --enable-mp3lib --enable-alsa --enable xv
[07:59] <vvlaw> ,oh :(
[07:59] <zcat[1] > funny, can't remember how to use asc() now either.. says it's not defined :(
[08:00] <vvlaw> xtknight, oh:( forgot to add "-"
[08:00] <cmweb> !indexing
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about indexing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <jarrod10>  !hfs+
[08:01] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[08:01] <kdhssfd388844> ohh kayyy, so who wants to hear my problems
[08:01] <kdhssfd388844> and why is my nick name jibberish
[08:01] <kdhssfd388844> thats better
[08:02] <BHSPitMonkey> what's better?
[08:02] <NateToshiba> my nick lol
[08:02] <NateToshiba> ok, well im new to linux and everything
[08:02] <cmweb> !hddcache
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hddcache - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <cmweb> this thing is really starting to piss me off
[08:02] <NateToshiba> and xp is on my frist partiton, kubutu on number 2 with a 2gb swap, and i cant get dual booting working :(
[08:03] <cmweb> what does the hard drive do in down time?
[08:04] <xtknight> cmweb: put your `dmesg` in pastebin, and maybe we can help you
[08:04] <cmweb> dmesg?
[08:04] <cmweb> you mean the iostat output?
[08:04] <xtknight> cmweb: type it in the terminal
[08:04] <vvlaw> xtknight,compile error:(
[08:05] <cmweb> Yeah im going to paste bin that
[08:05] <xtknight> vvlaw: do you use edgy , 32-bit or 64-bit?  i might be able to make a package for you
[08:05] <xtknight> vvlaw: though it would be better if we debugged your compile problems
[08:06] <cmweb> Its kinda hard for me to getinto paste bin with this thing being like it is
[08:07] <xtknight> cmweb: well is there anything in dmesg indicating an index operation?  what about just rebooting? that may fix it as bad as it sounds
[08:07] <vvlaw> xtknight, edgy 32bit :)
[08:07] <cmweb> xtknight i reboot once then in five minutes after its all done it does it again
[08:07] <xtknight> vvlaw: what is the compile error?
[08:08] <vvlaw> xtknight, http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/1271
[08:08] <xtknight> cmweb: im afraid i need a dmesg to properly debug it, but maybe u can sneak one in before the 5 mins is up
[08:08] <cmweb> ok its doing better i think i can get it  in
[08:09] <cmweb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/90/
[08:10] <amanmehta> hi every1
[08:10] <amanmehta> how r u ?
[08:10] <dutta> fine
[08:10] <dutta> you?
[08:10] <cmweb> gone dutta
[08:10] <xtknight> cmweb: your drives are operating in PIO, try enabling dma (`sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdN`) N being ur drive
[08:11] <xtknight> vvlaw: sorry, the site is very slow for me so you'll have to wait a second
[08:11] <dutta> no just busy
[08:12] <vvlaw> the offcial paste website is slow for me :( so i paste in my country's website sorry
[08:12] <cmweb> xtknight, they just sprung up even more active
[08:12] <cmweb> i mean it
[08:13] <cmweb> i mean   it sprung up
[08:13] <QMario> HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!
[08:13] <xtknight> cmweb: hmmm that's not good ;)
[08:13] <cmweb> thirteen minutes after here
[08:13] <xtknight> 2:13 here
[08:14] <randomi> Anyone out there installed Mangos before?
[08:14] <cmweb> "/dev/hda:
[08:14] <cmweb>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[08:14] <cmweb>  using_dma    =  1 (on)"
[08:15] <pradeep_> how to make a grub bot diskette
[08:15] <asfalt> !flash
[08:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:16] <xtknight> vvlaw: it still hasn't loaded.  i may have to wait till tomorrow to help, i have to sleep soon :P
[08:16] <cmweb> xtknight, got any ideas
[08:16] <xtknight> cmweb: youre saying it got worse, righT?
[08:16] <JunkNode> Happy new year!!!
[08:17] <cmweb> xtknight, year some what
[08:17] <xtknight> cmweb: sorry, i relaly dont know why your HDs are being accessed so much, i would have thought dma would offload some of the processing off the cpu
[08:17] <cmweb> yeah*
[08:17] <vvlaw> xthnight. it desn't matter,but can i have your another contacts?
[08:18] <xtknight> vvlaw: email xt.knight@gmail.com or i am `xtknight` at forums.anandtech.com
[08:18] <xtknight> just google my name i'm all over the place lol
[08:19] <cmweb> How long could it take to map 64 GB?
[08:19] <xtknight> cmweb: map it, what do u mean?
[08:20] <vvlaw> xtknight.ok , you go sleep first :) thank you
[08:20] <cmweb> what is it suposedly doing, from what you can tell from the log
[08:20] <xtknight> cmweb: i am not sure dmesg contains much info
[08:21] <xtknight> (related to your issue at least0
[08:21] <l33t> hello
[08:21] <l33t> I need some assistance please.
[08:21] <BHSPitMonkey> but you're l33t.
[08:22] <l33t> heh
[08:22] <l33t> yeah
[08:22] <l33t> but not with Linux
[08:22] <l33t> only on XP
[08:22] <BHSPitMonkey> what could you possibly need from us n00bs?
[08:22] <QwertyM> lolz
[08:22] <BHSPitMonkey> oh, then you aren't anything close to l33t.
[08:22] <l33t> I need assistance installing the Nvidia driver for ubuntu
[08:22] <QwertyM> he is part 1337, he's l33t
[08:22] <asfalt> :0
[08:22] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx?
[08:22] <VerdRousseau> how can I run an application from my applications tab as root?
[08:23] <cmweb> Sorry xtknight, but did that say anything?
[08:23] <GhostFreeman> Does ext3 ever need to be defragmented, or does this occur automatically
[08:23] <l33t> I already installed that package via Package Manager
[08:23] <BHSPitMonkey> VerdRousseau, type the command in a terminal with "sudo" at the front
[08:23] <VerdRousseau> so say I wanted to use the NmapFe
[08:23] <VerdRousseau> sudo NmapFE
[08:23] <xtknight> ghostfreeman: ext3 really doesnt need defragmentation
[08:23] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, oh, you need to edit your xorg.conf still?
[08:24] <GhostFreeman> I see
[08:24] <BHSPitMonkey> VerdRousseau, no caps
[08:24] <l33t> I dunno
[08:24] <l33t> I downloaded that file and ran the command it said to enable it
[08:24] <BHSPitMonkey> VerdRousseau, caps in *nix commands are rare
[08:24] <VerdRousseau> co
[08:24] <VerdRousseau> oo I see
[08:24] <l33t> NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver These XFree86 4.x/X.Org binary drivers provide optimized hardware acceleration of OpenGL applications via a direct-rendering X Server and support the newer GeForce, nForce and Quadro families of NVIDIA chipsets.  AGP, TV-out and flat panel displays are also supported.
[08:24] <l33t>  If you have a TNT, TNT2, or older GeForce, you may need the nvidia-glx-legacy package instead of this one.
[08:24] <l33t>  To enable the driver, run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable".
[08:24] <l33t> I did that and it gave me an error
[08:24] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, run "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" in a terminal (no quotes)
[08:25] <BHSPitMonkey> what kind of card is it?
[08:25] <l33t> sweet
[08:25] <l33t> it opened the file
[08:25] <l33t> Nvidia GeForceFX 5200
[08:25] <l33t> my motherboard only supports PCI
[08:25] <l33t> unfortunately
[08:25] <asc_> ShayGuy: Ping.  I got disconnected.
[08:25] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, scroll down to Section "Device"
[08:25] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, and where it says "Driver" there, change nv to nvidia
[08:25] <BHSPitMonkey> if it isn't already so
[08:26] <l33t> I am there
[08:26] <asc_> Could somebody kick my ghost?  "asc__".  I need to identify in order to pm
[08:26] <amanmehta> hi every1
[08:26] <BHSPitMonkey> also, uninstall the legacy package and install nvidia-glx instead
[08:26] <l33t> wait
[08:26] <asfalt> !java
[08:26] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:26] <l33t> it says
[08:26] <l33t> Section "Device"
[08:26] <l33t> 	Identifier	"Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller"
[08:26] <l33t> 	Driver		"i810"
[08:26] <l33t> 	BusID		"PCI:0:2:0"
[08:26] <l33t> that is the onboard
[08:26] <BHSPitMonkey> asc_, why can't you identify? is __ the registered nick?
[08:26] <asc_> BHTSPitMonkey: yes
[08:26] <ShayGuy> Read you here. Can I help?
[08:26] <TuTUx> HAPPY NEW YEAR~~
[08:27] <asc_> Oh, good.
[08:27] <l33t> hello?
[08:27] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, ah. is the picture coming out of the nvidia card??
[08:27] <amanmehta> wht id d url for source-o-magic?
[08:27] <l33t> I am running my onboard right now
[08:27] <asc_> shayguy, I'm un-able to pm for now it looks like.
[08:27] <l33t> to install the driver with a GUI
[08:27] <BHSPitMonkey> asc_, /msg nickserv ghost asc__ PASSWORD
[08:27] <asc_> thanks, BHSP
[08:27] <BHSPitMonkey> np
[08:27] <ShayGuy> I kept a transcript.
[08:28] <l33t> so what I exactly do I do that now?
[08:28] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, open another terminal tab or something, and run lspci
[08:28] <l33t> but I didn't change that first thing
[08:28] <amanmehta> how 2 talk 2 ubuto?
[08:28] <l33t> Section "Device"
[08:28] <l33t> 	Identifier	"Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller"
[08:28] <l33t> 	Driver		"i810"
[08:28] <l33t> 	BusID		"PCI:0:2:0"
[08:28] <l33t> that should be changed right?
[08:28] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, join #ubuntu-xgl , I'll talk you through this there
[08:28] <BHSPitMonkey> I've done this exact thing before
[08:31] <RodrigoKris_> hello
[08:31] <ledemente> Hi all, I just isntalled Frostwire again, and it seems to be unable to connect, stuck on "starting connection".
[08:31] <amicrawler> hey rod
[08:31] <RodrigoKris_> happy new year for all
[08:31] <amicrawler> whats up
[08:32] <amicrawler> Rod what ver of irc are you using
[08:32] <bruenig> frostwire errors make my brain hurt
[08:32] <ledemente> Mine too. :(
 6.0
[08:33] <ledemente> But it also says it detects a firewall.
[08:33] <amicrawler> mirc
[08:33] <kd7swh> azureus makes me want to cry
[08:33] <amicrawler> or xchat
[08:33] <RodrigoKris_> yes
[08:33] <RodrigoKris_> mirc
[08:33] <amicrawler> in wine
[08:33] <bruenig> azureus too
[08:33] <amicrawler> or windows
[08:33] <RodrigoKris_> en windows
[08:33] <bruenig> azureus is right along with frostwire
[08:33] <RodrigoKris_> xp
[08:33] <kd7swh> p2p is dead to me
[08:33] <bruenig> java pretty much can go
[08:33] <amicrawler> humm
[08:33] <amicrawler> i have it in vista
[08:33] <RodrigoKris_> why?
[08:33] <Flannel> !offtopic
[08:33] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:34] <amicrawler> Rod did you ever join the light side
[08:34] <Zyphern> Hey guys, I downloaded the latest Ubuntu Distro and booted it but when I do the computer I boot it on looses internet as well as every other computer in the house
[08:35] <kd7swh> #offtopic is always dead
[08:35] <Zyphern> So I select DHCP from the network settings dropdown list but it still doesnt work
[08:35] <ledemente> So, I thought it might be a firewall issue.
[08:35] <TooR4u> is there any flash decompiler in linux....?
[08:35] <Zyphern> Do I have to install ubuntu to my hdd for the internet to work
[08:35] <ledemente> What port is Frostwire on? How can I allow it through?
[08:35] <amicrawler> i got flash9 to work in kde
[08:35] <TooR4u> I am searching 4 that from 2 daysss
[08:35] <bruenig> TooR4u, I highly doubt it
[08:35] <bruenig> I got flash9 to work in gnome and xfce
[08:35] <amicrawler> very cool
[08:35] <kd7swh> Zyphern, I have the same problem I have to use dhcpcd to fix it
[08:36] <Zyphern> which requires installing it to hdd right?
[08:36] <TooR4u> bruenig, falsh9 is flash decompiler?
[08:36] <amicrawler> is there a bin for birdnest? app
[08:36] <bruenig> TooR4u, no, there is no flash decompiler
[08:36] <kd7swh> Zyphern, I would think so, but you maybe able to install it to ram if you have enough memory
[08:37] <amicrawler> sorry people  songbird
[08:37] <Zyphern> okay, is dhcpcd difficult to setup?
[08:37] <TooR4u> bruenig, atleast flash compiler 4 linux?
[08:37] <bruenig> TooR4u, there is none
[08:37] <TooR4u> i am fedup with the searching of flash in linux
[08:38] <TooR4u> ohh shxxtt
[08:38] <adorablepuppy> Hello
[08:38] <bruenig> TooR4u, there is a flash plugin, there is no flash decompiler, unless we are having a semantical problem here
[08:38] <cyraq> does ubuntu 6.10 support dual-screens using an ATI card?
[08:38] <adorablepuppy> :( Where's deb at? I tried a command with deb and it says command not found.
[08:39] <TooR4u> any alernate for flash?
[08:39] <bruenig> adorablepuppy, for flash?
[08:39] <kd7swh> Zyphern, no just run synaptic as root and find it in the list it is a one click install like most apps in ubuntu
[08:39] <bruenig> TooR4u, there is gnash, but it is poor
[08:39] <TooR4u> ohhhhhhh
[08:39] <adorablepuppy> No. I'm trying to do the edgy beryl install
[08:39] <cyraq> does fedora core 6 support dual-screens using an ATI card?
[08:39] <cyraq> erm i mean
[08:39] <cyraq> does ubuntu 6.10 support dual-screens using an ATI card?
[08:39] <m4jqp> <3 beryl
[08:40] <bruenig> TooR4u, are you looking for something that will play flash?
[08:40] <Flannel> adorablepuppy: what are you trying to do with "deb"?  Are you supposed to be adding it to your sources instead?
[08:40] <Zyphern> now, does this require internet connectivity to do kd7swh?
[08:40] <adorablepuppy> hrm. . . .I had realized that when I read it 10 seconds ago.
[08:41] <adorablepuppy> -_-;;;;;; /me is retarded
[08:41] <kd7swh> Zyphern, installing dhcpcd does yes
[08:41] <Zyphern> well theres an issue :)
[08:41] <kd7swh> Zyphern, not using it though
[08:41] <Zyphern> How am I supposed to fix my internet not working, when what I have to do involved using the internet
[08:41] <kd7swh> Zyphern, that is if you install to hdd
[08:41] <cmweb> i hate update db
[08:42] <kd7swh> Zyphern, sorry i forgot you are on live-cd
[08:43] <Zyphern> so wait, if I do install to my hdd though
[08:43] <Zyphern> how can I set up dhcpcd without using the internet?
 No. I'm trying to do the edgy beryl install  i saw it on somebodys laptop the other day  was way cool
[08:44] <cyraq> does ubuntu 6.10 support dual-screens using an ATI card?
[08:44] <kd7swh> Zyphern, the only way you could install dhcpcd without network con. is by storing to deb (install) file on another cd or something
[08:44] <kd7swh> the deb*
[08:44] <Zyphern> ah okay
[08:44] <Zyphern> thx
[08:47] <elyon> Does the Linux kernel in Ubuntu get updated automatically?
[08:47] <abdusabri> Hi, When trying to configure (xgl), i had this error and tried searching the web, any ideas :)
[08:47] <abdusabri>  - compiz-kde: Depends: compiz (= 0.0.2-4ubuntu2) but 1:0.3.3-0ubuntu2~git2006112~edgy1 is to be installed
[08:47] <bruenig> elyon, yes in time
[08:47] <BHSPitMonkey> elyon, it comes through the update manager
[08:47] <BHSPitMonkey> so, it's not "automatic"
[08:47] <BHSPitMonkey> but it'll let you know.
[08:47] <elyon> But its not something I need to consciously go to a website every  now and then and check...
[08:47] <bruenig> well it is automatic, just not immediate
[08:48] <bruenig> elyon, no, it will show up in the update manager
[08:48] <Administrator> hi, quick question
[08:48] <elyon> Okay... and the actual update is automatic?  Or does it require a tutorial to do it? :P
[08:48] <scribebox> i have a happyily running ubuntu-server 6.10
[08:48] <BHSPitMonkey> elyon, familiar with the update manager? the orange square in the notification area?
[08:48] <scribebox> i want to add an aditional 250GB harddrive :D
[08:48] <bruenig> elyon, no, in ubuntu there is a little icon that shows up in the panel when you have an update, and you click on it and install them
[08:48] <elyon> BHSPitMonkey - vaguely familiar... it's popped up a few times for me to update software.
[08:49] <BHSPitMonkey> elyon, the orange square will light up in the notification area, by the clock.  you'll click on it, put in your password, and see the updates at hand.
[08:49] <scribebox> ermm, how would i update the fstab/format etc etc..
[08:49] <elyon> Okay, excellent.  Thank you.
[08:49] <BHSPitMonkey> elyon, from there you can re-check, or click Install Updates
[08:49] <BHSPitMonkey> elyon, for kernels, it will tell you that it won't take effect until after a reboot
[08:50] <bruenig> scribebox, sudo fdisk -l, find the device name and format it like everything else in the fstab
[08:51] <scribebox> no ..
[08:51] <scribebox> i want to format it to ext3 (maybe reiser..)
[08:51] <scribebox> and ive never really messed with the fstab :s
[08:51] <scribebox> if i post the output of fdisk -l
[08:51] <scribebox> on a paste
[08:51] <scribebox> and my OLD fstab
[08:52] <scribebox> can someone make me a new fstab :D
[08:52] <scribebox> so i can just ftp it over ;p
[08:52] <scribebox> and be done with it...
[08:52] <scribebox> and maybe i can learn by example..
[08:53] <bruenig> scribebox, with the new UID stuff, I am kind of behind, so I am probably not the best help
[08:53] <amicrawler> songbird is cool
[08:54] <BHSPitMonkey> yeah
[08:54] <BHSPitMonkey> I was thinking songbird was going to be really cool
[08:55] <BHSPitMonkey> but it's actually pretty... bloated feeling
[08:55] <BHSPitMonkey> I think the browser-based music player thing is a big fat gimmick
[08:55] <BHSPitMonkey> nobody cares
[08:55] <BHSPitMonkey> it might as well be a firefox extension
[08:57] <amicrawler> yeah i know
[08:57] <amanmehta>  hi,i m online now.i hav connected laptop(Windows) 2 net n connected d PC(linux) 2 d laptop n thn both hav net connection. i m really happy tht r in harmony now. but i can access windows shares folders through but dont knw how 2 access linux(ubuntu) shared drives frm windows xpa
[08:57] <amicrawler> but all windows user can feel free from the drm
[08:59] <amanmehta> how 2 share files 2 Lan in ubuntu ?
[08:59] <amicrawler> right click and share folder
[08:59] <amanmehta> ok but wil it share 2 windows xp?
[09:00] <amanmehta> windows xp is sharing its files n net connection now
[09:00] <amicrawler> yes
[09:01] <amicrawler> in ubuntu you need samba
[09:01] <amicrawler> or smb
[09:01] <amanmehta> n where 2 look 4 thm in windows xp ?
[09:01] <amicrawler> to share
[09:01] <ledemente> Hi, what's "ipp" service running on 631?
[09:01] <amanmehta> network drives ?
[09:01] <amicrawler> the ipp printer
[09:01] <amicrawler> port
[09:02] <amanmehta> i dont knw whether samba is there or not in my system but already i can accees windows shared resources now
[09:02] <amicrawler> i run  samba  so i can share  my folders
[09:02] <ledemente> amicrawler, ipp printer? What is that?
[09:02] <amanmehta> how do i find out whether samba is installed in my ubuntu system?
[09:02] <BHSPitMonkey> amanmehta, as a courtesy, could you refrain from substitutions like "2", "4", "u", "r", etc.
[09:03] <amicrawler> you will all so need to know your  ip for your computer
[09:03] <amanmehta> ok wil try to cut the short hand
[09:04] <amanmehta> how 2 find out whether samba is there in my system n also which version ?
[09:04] <amanmehta> sorry
[09:04] <amanmehta> how to find out ?
[09:06] <noiesmo> amanmehta, type "dpkg-query -l |grep samba" without quotes in terminal will list the samba packages you have installed
[09:06] <asfalt> !samba
[09:06] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:06] <asfalt> i like this bot, very handy ;)
[09:07] <amanmehta> thank you everyone for chipping in your help
[09:08] <pilgrim> How the heck to I synch my palm with my Ubuntu 6.10.
[09:08] <pilgrim> Through evolution?
[09:08] <asfalt> speaking of which, i removed ekiga which seems to have removed ubuntu-desktop . i somewhat have a feeling i need the ubuntu-desktop package
[09:09] <Flannel> !ubuntu-desktop | asfalt
[09:09] <ubotu> asfalt: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[09:09] <asfalt> awesome again
[09:09] <asfalt> thanks
[09:10] <amanmehta> i tried the dpkg-query -l | grep samba command in terminal
[09:10] <amanmehta> i got d following out put
[09:10] <amanmehta> dharmesh@dharmesh-desktop:~$ dpkg-query -l |grep samba
[09:10] <amanmehta> ii  samba-common                           3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1    Samba common files used by both the server a
[09:10] <amicrawler> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=327679
[09:10] <amanmehta> what does it mean ?
[09:10] <amicrawler> there is a simply way for sharing
[09:11] <amanmehta> i  m hav samba n d version number is the number given
[09:11] <amanmehta> ?
[09:13] <amicrawler> then you do not have samba
[09:13] <asfalt> another q; i am dual booting and ubuntu found and mounted ntfs partitions , in particular i do not care to have them mounted and certainly do not want the icons on my desktop. should i just edit my /etc/fstab manually so they are not auto mounted on boot?
[09:13] <rizwaan> "openoffice" Tools-Options-OpenOffice.Org-Memory --> Enable systray quickstarter
[09:13] <rizwaan> Enable systray quickstarter option is not "saved"
[09:13] <amicrawler> http://www.bnro.de/~schmidjo/ this might help you
[09:13] <amicrawler> gui interface
[09:16] <amanmehta> i tried the dpkg-query -l | grep samba command in terminal
[09:16] <amanmehta> i got d following out put
[09:16] <amanmehta> dharmesh@dharmesh-desktop:~$ dpkg-query -l |grep samba
[09:16] <amanmehta> ii  samba-common                           3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1    Samba common files used by both the server a
[09:16] <amanmehta> what does it mean ? i  m hav samba n d version number is the number given ?
[09:17] <amicrawler> http://www.tweakhound.com/linux/samba/page_4.htm
[09:17] <amicrawler> this relly helped me out
[09:17] <amanmehta> ok
[09:17] <amicrawler> this site
[09:18] <amicrawler> http://www.tweakhound.com/linux/samba/page_1.htm
[09:18] <amicrawler> there is the begaing from xp to linux
[09:19] <amicrawler> every gui in linux has a command center like suse
[09:19] <amicrawler> or very simaler
[09:19] <amicrawler> to kde gnome xfce etc:
[09:21] <amicrawler> this site was very very usful to me in setting up sharing
[09:21] <amicrawler> bookmark it
[09:24] <amicrawler> if you need more help  you can dcc voice me
[09:25] <Jester45> i have a problem with gl on my ati, when i run glxgears i get a fatal IO error and the gears run really slow and jump
[09:26] <Jester45> anyone know how to fix this?
[09:26] <jasin> why is ubuntu so bugy?
[09:26] <jasin> fix what?
[09:27] <Jester45>  i have a problem with gl on my ati, when i run glxgears i get a fatal IO error and the gears run really slow and jump
[09:27] <jasin> oh, that's a bug .. I think it was reported on launchpad
[09:29] <cybercod> Hello room
[09:29] <jasin> I get an error message when I run that too.
[09:29] <jasin> I got an ati 9100 igp
[09:29] <amicrawler> i don't
[09:29] <amicrawler> runing it now
[09:29] <Rookie_> !ati
[09:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:29] <jasin> I get the error message: Error: couldn't open display (null)
[09:30] <cybercod> has ATI's drivers gotten any better since AMD took them over?
[09:30] <MengChang> hello
[09:30] <amicrawler> is the gears suposta be slow
[09:31] <jasin> My understanding is if you install the ati binary drivers you have to first uninstall the flxgr driver
[09:31] <jasin> why doesn't always work.
[09:31] <MengChang> Hello cybercod
[09:31] <jasin> which doesn't always work.
[09:31] <amicrawler> that does not aply to me i run nvidia
[09:31] <jasin> cyber, not for linux
[09:31] <jasin> my graphics are built in no way of changing that
[09:32] <cybercod> crummy
[09:32] <jasin> there is an ati x server btw.
[09:32] <cybercod> Still having tons of ATI problems with 3d Accelleration when using proprietary drivers?
[09:32] <amicrawler> i'm off to bed people  it is 00:32 pst here
[09:32] <jasin> cyber, i've always had ati problems in linux
[09:33] <jasin> my mouse dont work in ubuntu either I had to buy a wireless mouse
[09:33] <cybercod> I'm Nvidia now... but i still have that card laying around... was hoping AMD would wake their azzez up
[09:34] <jasin> The latest nvidia cards are faster but their very expensive
[09:34] <cybercod> latest cards always are
[09:34] <jasin> nvidia cards always are
[09:34] <jasin> lol
[09:35] <cybercod> i've got a problem I was hoping to get some advice on
[09:35] <jasin> ubuntu seems buggier then fedora
[09:35] <MengChang> what's wrong?
[09:35] <MengChang> Maybe I can help you
[09:36] <jasin> mouse dont work, computer hangs when i restart, ati support sucks
[09:36] <jasin> acpi and apm is crapy in ubuntu
[09:37] <jasin> gdm is slowww
[09:37] <cybercod> i'm having strange freezes while using zsnes
[09:37] <cybercod> older PC...
[09:38] <cybercod> using nvidia
[09:38] <cybercod> geforce 2
[09:38] <cybercod> it runs great for 5 min then freezes everything... can't even change numlock status
[09:39] <cybercod> VLC does the same thing when trying to escape fullscreen
[09:39] <jasin> doesn't ZSNES require directx?
[09:39] <cybercod> zsnes is in the repos
[09:39] <jasin> cybercod, post your bugs on bugs.launchpad.net they'll fix em.
[09:41] <jasin> there are 21938  bugs posted for ubuntu
[09:41] <cybercod> ok... i was thinking it had to do with some drive errors... its my 4-year-old son's PC... and he was hard-rebooting it too often
[09:41] <jasin> thats way worse then windows
[09:42] <jasin> cybercod, yeah, I bet something got corrupted rebooted all them times
[09:42] <Flannel> jasin: I'd hardly think the number of bugs is indicative of "goodness", but Im sure quite a few of us would love to talk about it, but in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:42] <jasin> cybercod, yeah, I bet something got corrupted rebooting all them times
[09:42] <cybercod> is there a way to re-install all packages?
[09:42] <cybercod> other than re-installing complete OS?
[09:42] <n2diy> jasin: BS, Winder doesn't post there bugs.
[09:42] <cybercod> its not user specific
[09:42] <jasin> flannel, okay, when they going to update the kernel in ubuntu?
[09:44] <jasin> n2diy, actually they do most of them are on the KB and listed in the patches in the windows update.
[09:44] <Flannel> jasin: kernel major versions are frozen each release, so never.
[09:44] <skyde> hello
[09:44] <n2diy> jasin: ok the ones the admit to.
[09:45] <amanmehta> i m using tvtime television viewer in ubuntu 6.06 but sumtimes it detects d capture card n sumtimes it just loads d webcam. how 2 configure n correct it? pls help.
[09:45] <cybercod> is there a way to do that?
[09:45] <skyde> some one know what sould i install to manage wireless connection like windows
[09:45] <n2diy> the*they
[09:45] <cybercod> um... does it detect your wireless card?
[09:46] <skyde> yes i currently using it
[09:46] <cybercod> gimme a moment... looking up the package name
[09:46] <byp> skyde: I remember there was one, but I forgot the name....
[09:46] <jasin> flannel, not true, I just got a kernel update off of synaptics from a ubuntu repository, but its not the latest its was a 2.6.17 update, it was a 2.6.17.1-10.34
[09:47] <Flannel> jasin: oh, you're talking about patches, not kernel versions.
[09:47] <skyde> does synaptic only a frontend for apt-get ?
[09:47] <Madpilot> skyde, yes
[09:48] <byp> skyde: Network Manager
[09:49] <amanmehta> i m using tvtime television viewer in ubuntu 6.06 but sumtimes it detects d capture card n sumtimes it just loads d webcam. how 2 configure n correct it? pls help.
[09:49] <cybercod> yes, that was it
[09:49] <byp> :)
[09:49] <qball> hello, quick question, has anyone ever gotten dri working for x1950 pro?
[09:50] <jasin> flannel, of course
[09:51] <qball> i have tried numerous amounts of time and no luck
[09:51] <amanmehta>  i m using tvtime television viewer in ubuntu 6.06 but sumtimes it detects d capture card n sumtimes it just loads d webcam. how 2 configure n correct it? pls help.
[09:51] <qball> damn nobody has huh
[09:52] <amanmehta> can any1 help ?
[09:52] <byp> huh?
[09:52] <skyde> re
[09:52] <amanmehta>  i m using tvtime television viewer in ubuntu 6.06 but sumtimes it detects d capture card n sumtimes it just loads d webcam. how 2 configure n correct it? pls help.
[09:52] <jasin> flannel, the patches are based on kernel versions. Why do you think their labeled patch-2.6.19 blah blah?
[09:52] <skyde> ubuntu really is the best linux distro
[09:52] <byp> I like it
[09:52] <jasin> skyde, yes
[09:52] <byp> no distro wars, please :-X
[09:53] <jasin> byp, who's debating distros????
[09:53] <byp> just hope it never gets there, that's all :)
[09:53] <skyde> hehe
[09:53] <byp> SLACKWARE IS TEH BEST
[09:53] <byp> ^
[09:53] <skyde> lol
[09:53] <cybercod> what would happen if I selected all installed packages and clicked re-install
[09:53] <BHSPitMonkey> skyde, sure it is, for you and me
[09:53] <skyde> i mean user friendliness
[09:53] <byp> It's a well-rounded distro
[09:54] <jasin> cyber, nothing .. it'll just reinstall all those packages
[09:54] <amanmehta>  i m using tvtime television viewer in ubuntu 6.06 but sumtimes it detects d capture card n sumtimes it just loads d webcam. how 2 configure n correct it? pls help.
[09:54] <cybercod> would it keep my desktop settings and such?
[09:54] <amanmehta> can any1 read me ?
[09:54] <skyde> i didn't try a recent fedora core build but i is probably like mandriva
[09:54] <jasin> cyber, alot of times it wont even redownload then it just reinstall them from the .deb files on your system
[09:54] <cybercod> yes, aman.. I just don't know how to help you
[09:54] <jasin> cyber, alot of times it wont even redownload them it just reinstall them from the .deb files on your system
[09:54] <Madpilot> amanmehta, yes - no need to repeat so often, if anyone can help, they will...
[09:55] <amanmehta> ok ........ i thought i was invisible 2 eery1
[09:55] <byp> anyone know why distros like fedora need all those CDs? unnecessary software, perhaps?
[09:55] <cybercod> would there be a crc check involved in case some packages are damaged from hardboots?
[09:55] <byp> ubuntu is on once happy little CD
[09:55] <amanmehta> very1
[09:55] <jasin> cyber, your settings should be fine.
[09:55] <byp> one*
[09:55] <Cypher> two**
[09:55] <Cypher> cool
[09:55] <Madpilot> amanmehta, try using real English, not leetspeek...
[09:55] <Cypher> smoky jones
[09:56] <mwe> byp: I don't know why they don't have a minimal install cd
[09:56] <jasin> cyber, you should only lose your settings if you do a complete removal first
[09:56] <amanmehta> ok
[09:56] <byp> aye
[09:56] <Cypher> its the new year man
[09:56] <byp> yup
[09:56] <Cypher> bad things will happen
[09:56] <cybercod> ok... i'm about to try it
[09:56] <mwe> byp: ubuntu has a hugh dvd as well as the small install cd
[09:56] <jasin> cyber, i would still back them up though :p
[09:56] <BHSPitMonkey> Madpilot, tell me about it...
[09:56] <byp> yeah, but I use the CD for backwards compatibility
[09:56] <cybercod> Now he tells me
[09:56] <byp> some of my comps don't have DVD drives
[09:57] <skyde> why dont merge kubuntu xubuntu and ubuntu together and choose your desktop a login time
[09:57] <Madpilot> BHSPitMonkey, about leetspeek, you mean?
[09:57] <jasin> cyber, if you is doing a complete reinstall of the entire system you may lose some settings, if you is just reinstalling some packages everything should be fine.
[09:57] <Flannel> skyde: you can, just install the other *ubuntu-desktop packages
[09:57] <Madpilot> skyde, because that would make the installer more complex than it needs to be
[09:57] <mwe> byp: but ubuntu has apt-get so if you have internet you don't need to have all the software on a dvd
[09:57] <Madpilot> and you'd be back to the multi-CD installs other distros have
[09:57] <BHSPitMonkey> Madpilot, pretty much. That "u" "r" "2" "4" crap makes my eye twitch.
[09:57] <byp> That's what I like about it, mwe
[09:58] <byp> I just rely on apt to get my software - I don't like having superfluous CDs
[09:58] <jasin> you can install whatever desktop you want, sudo apt-get install kde for example, installs kde
[09:58] <mwe> security patches don't make it to those CDs either
[09:59] <skyde> what are you thinking about opensolaris
[09:59] <jasin> security patches have to be downloaded
[09:59] <byp> faster download+install than windows update :P
[09:59] <jasin> byp, definitly
[09:59] <mwe> jasin: they don't have to be downloaded seperately in ubuntu
[10:00] <Madpilot> jasin, use the 'kubuntu-desktop' for KDE/Kubuntu, rather than just 'kde'
[10:00] <cybercod> yeah, and you don't have to reboot unless its a kernel patch
[10:00] <jasin> mwe, if their not included on the cd they do.
[10:00] <mwe> jasin: they get installed with the software the requires them when you apt-get it
[10:00] <mwe> jasin: my point is you don't need the cd in ubuntu
[10:00] <cybercod> so far I've installed all four... xubuntu edubuntu kubuntu and ubuntu... i like just regular ubuntu the best
[10:00] <mwe> jasin: not if you have internet and use apt-get
[10:01] <jasin> try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:01] <mwe> jasin: yeah what about that?
[10:01] <mwe> jasin: it works fine
[10:01] <jasin> mwe, apt-get downloads its how it gets every update.
[10:01] <cybercod> whats the apt-get equivalent to *.*?
[10:01] <jasin> mwe, its still downloading them its just ussing apt-get to do it
[10:01] <mwe> jasin: because the updates are integrated
[10:01] <Flannel> cybercod: you don't want to do that.
[10:02] <byp> XD
[10:02] <cybercod> ??
[10:02] <byp> lol
[10:02] <n2diy> apt-get update
[10:02] <mwe> jasin: I know. I said you don't have to download the patches SEPERATELY
[10:02] <jasin> mwe, no their not, apt-get goes to repositories, thats where the security patches are from.
[10:02] <da_sweTT> fuck you
[10:02] <jasin> mwe, no their not, apt-get goes to repositories, thats where the security patches come from.
[10:02] <zeax_> = =
[10:03] <mwe> jasin: of course it goes to the repos and dont repeat
[10:03] <mwe> jasin: what's your point?
[10:03] <jasin> mwe, blah, you are arguing semantics
[10:03] <jasin> mwe, talk to someone else
[10:03] <mwe> jasin: I'm not buthead
[10:03] <byp> terminology, my friends?
[10:04] <da_sweTT> you sweet
[10:04] <da_sweTT> gtty78
[10:05] <byp> dd takes so long on my iPod...
[10:07] <DBO> da_sweTT, it would be really swell if you could lay off the personal insults from now on =)
[10:08] <jasin> cyber, aptitude is nearly the same as apt-get
[10:08] <byp> it can search too
[10:08] <byp> and has an ncurses interface when no args are used
[10:08] <byp> but i find the ncurses too confusing
[10:08] <jasin> apt-get is not confussing its very easy to use
[10:09] <makuseru> apt-get is the best of the package managers
[10:09] <jasin> if you want a graphical front end for apt-get then use synaptic
[10:09] <makuseru> of any distro
[10:09] <byp> aptitude's ncurses interface is confusing*
[10:09] <byp> i like apt-get
[10:09] <makuseru> i hate YaSt
[10:09] <jasin> I like apt-get too
[10:09] <jasin> yum is similar to apt-get but thats not included in ubuntu
[10:09] <mwe> aptitude is not the same as apt-get. aptitude keeps a seperate log which makes it possible to aptitidu install kubuntu-desktop then aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop if you decide you don't want it. try that with apt-get and you'll see it's doesn't remove kde
[10:10] <byp> apt-get is just a wrapper for dpkg, right....?
[10:10] <byp> like yum is a wrapper for rpm
[10:10] <mwe> byp: kinda yeah
[10:10] <Flannel> byp: no.  apt-get is the http interface, it uses dpkg to do all the installing though, if that's what you're getting at.
[10:10] <byp> k, thanks
[10:10] <makuseru> anyone else noticed that Vista rips of alot of stuff from OSX?
[10:11] <Flannel> !offtopic
[10:11] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:11] <mwe> byp: does yum enable you to install something over the internet or only local rpms?
[10:11] <byp> internet
[10:11] <jasin> if you can't get somethign off apt-get then its not apt-get it either doesn't exists with the package name you are ussing or you need to edit the repository list to look elsewhere
[10:11] <gostview> happy new year to all :D
[10:11] <mwe> byp: then I think it's similar
[10:12] <mwe> gostview: you too ;)
[10:12] <jasin> I found the kubuntu-desktop on synaptics.
[10:12] <jasin> use: kubuntu-desktop
[10:13] <jasin> makuseru, yes
[10:14] <unikon> is there any way i can get xmms to be my default mp3 player    xmms is what i want to play shoutcast playlist but that option never comes up
[10:14] <tyme-> yast sucks
[10:14] <tyme-> its buggy as hell
[10:14] <jasin> makuseru, some of the stuff in vista looks irraly similar to stuff thats been in os x and linux for years.
[10:14] <tyme-> i downloaded 3gb of data from system update and NOTHING was installed and cache was cleared
[10:14] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, hear, hear
[10:14] <byp> jasin: Vista and GNOME title bars...
[10:14] <jasin> byp, what?
[10:14] <byp> I think they looked the same
[10:15] <jasin> byp, oh, yeah ..
[10:15] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, Suse was the first distro I ever used... it's lucky that it didn't completely turn me away from linux :P
[10:15] <makuseru> jasin: ya, i saw a video on simalartities with OSX and alot is the same, teh weather stuff, calender, search
[10:15] <makuseru> and microsoft always clamis to be "innovating"
[10:15] <tyme-> i just removed suse and installed ubuntu tonight
[10:15] <BHSPitMonkey> hahaha
[10:15] <tyme-> im never going back.
[10:15] <byp> I swear I remembered the title bars being the same
[10:15] <BHSPitMonkey> do they really claim that?
[10:15] <makuseru> yes
[10:15] <BHSPitMonkey> XD
[10:15] <makuseru> in every interview ive ever ready or seen
[10:15] <BHSPitMonkey> wow
[10:16] <makuseru> the said that their "aero glass" is pusing limits of desktop computing
[10:16] <mwe> tyme-: but suse is a decent distro as well don't you think?
[10:16] <BHSPitMonkey> now they're just making jokes of themselves then
[10:16] <Madpilot> makuseru, please move non-support chat to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere. Thanks.
[10:16] <byp> by robbing us of valuable RAM
[10:16] <tyme-> its decent, but buggy and slow compared to ubuntu
[10:16] <tyme-> ive only had ubuntu for a couple hours, suse for months
[10:16] <makuseru> when you can use Beryl and do so much more with 1/4th the computer
[10:16] <ootput> hi guys, can someone point me in the direction of some documention on running different WM's on different displays?
[10:16] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, you also used KDE, though, right?
[10:16] <mwe> tyme-: Yeah I heard complaints about the slowness before
[10:16] <byp> Microsoft is too constrained, whereas Linux, such as the interface, can be customized to your heart's desire
[10:16] <jasin> i'm a student so I have tohave a working word processer and abi-word seems to be the best in linux but it still dont work as good as word 2003, so i'll probably have to run vista in a separate system.
[10:16] <tyme-> gnome.
[10:16] <BHSPitMonkey> that would contribute to that...
[10:16] <ootput> with ubuntu's startup mecahnism in mind?
[10:17] <tyme-> i do not like KDE
[10:17] <Amaranth> makuseru: meh, compiz :)
[10:17] <ootput> jasin: that's a little extreme ;)
[10:17] <tyme-> beryl > compiz =] 
[10:17] <mwe> jasin: you don't like openoffice I take it?
[10:17] <BHSPitMonkey> jasin, does OOo not do it for you?
[10:17] <ootput> running vista for a working word processor
[10:17] <arrenlex> jasin: openoffice.org-writer is the best word processor in Linux
[10:17] <jasin> ootput, runing word 2003 in wine is messy
[10:17] <Amaranth> tyme-: when is the last time you tried compiz?
[10:17] <byp> arrenlex: i agree
[10:17] <tyme-> two days ago
[10:17] <jasin> arrenlex, open office slows down the system.
[10:17] <makuseru> eww compiz
[10:17] <ootput> jasin: with vista, you'll end up getting much more than you'd bargained for ;)
[10:17] <arrenlex> jasin: It shouldn't. Is this an old computer?
[10:17] <ootput> jasin: yes it is
[10:17] <jasin> In linux I use gnome office
[10:18] <Flannel> arrenlex: no, [text editor]  and LaTeX is the best word processor for linux
[10:18] <tyme-> i reinstalled the distro tried compiz one last time then went back to good ole beryl.
[10:18] <Amaranth> tyme-: was it the compiz package in edgy?
[10:18] <BHSPitMonkey> openoffice is admittedly a resource hog of sorts
[10:18] <jasin> ootput, I wouldn;t pay for it anyways, so its no big deal.
[10:18] <BHSPitMonkey> built on java, is it not?
[10:18] <ootput> Flannel:  ++
[10:18] <tyme-> Amaranth:  compiz package from suse
[10:18] <arrenlex> jasin: If your system can't handle OOo, how do you expect to run Vista?! xD
[10:18] <ootput> what you see is what you mean
[10:18] <jasin> BHsp, it is, I use abiword
[10:18] <BHSPitMonkey> haha
[10:18] <ootput> hell, you can even use lyx at first
[10:18] <BHSPitMonkey> jasin, arrenlex's question... so true
[10:18] <mwe> Flannel: I use latex for all me reports. Introducing it to someone used to using MS Word would probably scare him away though ;)
[10:19] <tyme-> imo java is horribly slow and full of memory leaks
[10:19] <BHSPitMonkey> mwe, what editor?
[10:19] <tyme-> it takes massive amount of memory and cpu power for a single app
[10:19] <mwe> BHSPitMonkey: for latex?
[10:19] <BHSPitMonkey> yeah
[10:19] <mwe> BHSPitMonkey: emacs
[10:19] <BHSPitMonkey> ah
[10:19] <ootput> ah, same
[10:19] <jasin> arrenlex, oh my system can handel it just fine I just choose not to hog up resources having it installed.
[10:19] <byp> vi
[10:19] <mwe> BHSPitMonkey: with the acutex package
[10:19] <ootput> there's a vim-latex package, iirc
[10:19] <ootput> but I'm very satisfied with Emacs for latex
[10:20] <BHSPitMonkey> I still like using WYSIWYG editors that look purdy
[10:20] <Flannel> vim-latexsuite
[10:20] <ootput> yeah
[10:20] <BHSPitMonkey> emacs is a little too gritty for me
[10:20] <arrenlex> jasin: Vista running in a virtual environment is, in your opinion, less of a resource hog?
[10:20] <ootput> something of the sort
[10:20] <BHSPitMonkey> jasin, even beginning to compare OOo to vista as a resource hog is laughable
[10:20] <jasin> who said I was goign to run vista in a virtual enviroment?
[10:20] <ripperda> I'm seeing an annoying wireless ethernet problem, that I was hoping someone could help me with
[10:20] <byp> xd
[10:21] <tyme-> ripperda:  ask the question
[10:21] <byp> that would help
[10:21] <ootput> no, he'd rather run vista instead of word2k3 in wine
[10:21] <jasin> BHsp, windows is a memory hog.
[10:21] <tyme-> ubuntu supported my wireless card out of the box
[10:21] <jasin> tyme, mine too
[10:21] <mwe> ootput: does word 2003 even work in standard wine?
[10:21] <ripperda> I'm trying to run WEP, if I set the essid & wep key manually via iwconfig, everything works fine. but if I set those via the /etc/network/interfaces file, ifup doesn't seem to pick up the changes
[10:21] <BHSPitMonkey> mine too, but I still needed to get network-manager and stuff to use it.
[10:21] <ootput> it may support his wireless card, but could be very shitty to use
[10:21] <BHSPitMonkey> which I had to bring on a disk
[10:22] <BHSPitMonkey> with its dependencies.
[10:22] <mwe> ootput: don't you need crossover or something?
[10:22] <ripperda> I'm sure I'm doing something stupid wrong, just can't quite figure it out
[10:22] <tyme-> BHSPitMonkey:  what card?
[10:22] <ootput> mwe: i think it works for jasin; I haven't tried it myself
[10:22] <ootput> no real need :)
[10:22] <mwe> nah
[10:22] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, some belkin. f5d7000 or something like that
[10:22] <jasin> I dont run word 2003
[10:22] <ripperda> tyme-, thanks for any tips
[10:23] <ripperda> I suspect that this is a config problem, rather than a device/driver problem
[10:23] <tyme-> ripperda:  im not sure, not a linux guru. i could be consired a newbie =)
[10:23] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, it showed up as a network device ootb, but IMO Ubuntu needs to ship with network-manager (applet)
[10:23] <scribebox> ok
[10:23] <scribebox> i got a new harddrive in my ubuntu machine
[10:23] <tyme-> i thought it did, BHSPitMonkey
[10:23] <scribebox> got it formatted to resierfs
[10:23] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, nope.
[10:23] <scribebox> and mounted it under
[10:23] <tyme-> actually im positive it does
[10:23] <tyme-> ubuntu 6.10 did
[10:23] <scribebox> /server/250GIG
[10:23] <scribebox> and now im trying to edit the fstab file ;S
[10:23] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, umm, I would have noticed.
[10:23] <scribebox> im tottally confused about this
[10:23] <scribebox> UUID crap
[10:23] <scribebox> can anyone hlep :)?
[10:23] <byp> ?
[10:23] <tyme-> i never installed a network manager app, it came with the distro
[10:24] <byp> SUID?
[10:24] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, I have a disk with the packages I had to collect to install nm-applet
[10:24] <tyme-> i can set essid/wep key etc
[10:24] <tyme-> i dont use NM
[10:24] <scribebox> UUID
[10:24] <jasin> you have to have the hex key for your wep  to do wep, you can put the hex key in your network settings.
[10:24] <ripperda> tyme-, no problem :)
[10:24] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, I said that IMO ubuntu needs to ship with it.
[10:24] <tyme-> why? it ships with an app that does the same thing
[10:24] <BHSPitMonkey> it's blatantly anti user-friendly
[10:24] <ripperda> jasin, how do I do that reliably? I set that in the config file, but it doesn't seem to catch. I have to set it manually every time via iwconfig
[10:24] <jasin> if you are in kde or kubuntu you can use kwifi
[10:25] <tyme-> the live cd was able to pick up my card and allow me to set essid / wep key
[10:25] <BHSPitMonkey> something that a basic computer user could do in XP (connect to a wireless network) requires moderate skill in Ubuntu
[10:25] <jasin> ripperda, you have to put it in your network settings and also kwifi if you are ussing kde or kubuntu.
[10:25] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, it also gets really fun with WPA and its variants.
[10:25] <mwe> what's the difference between kde and kubuntu in ubuntu
[10:26] <Boknoy> I was wondering if anyone knows of a decent freeware app for x86 emulation for the purpose of testing distros in Windows before deciding which distro to switch to? VirtualPC type of thing, but freeware... don't want to be formatting and reinstalling all the time just trying to decide which one to use
[10:26] <jasin> ripperda, you have to set it for eth1 if thats your wifi, too.
[10:26] <mwe> I thought kde in ubuntu was kubuntu
[10:26] <tyme-> possibly, but i just use WEP
[10:26] <makuseru> it is isnt it?
[10:26] <tyme-> secure enough.
[10:26] <BHSPitMonkey> mwe, not necessarily
[10:26] <ripperda> jasin, unfortunately, not using kde/kubuntu. what do you mean by "network settings"? my wifi device is eth0
[10:26] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, eh. All I hear from people is that WEP is a joke, as far as getting into an AP.
[10:26] <arrenlex> Boknoy: qemu
[10:26] <arrenlex> !qemu | Boknoy
[10:27] <byp> WPA > WEP
[10:27] <ubotu> Boknoy: qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[10:27] <tyme-> it is if you spend the time to collect the 2-4 million packets to decrypt
[10:27] <pitdicker> Can someone help me installing fglrx 8.24.8 on Ubuntu Edgy?
[10:27] <mwe> BHSPitMonkey: well I know the kubuntu-desktop installs a lot of krap. I suppose that's the difference then ?
[10:27] <arrenlex> Boknoy: Also, MS has released Virtual PC. It is now free.
[10:27] <tyme-> airsnort does a good job of helping people crack WEP keys
[10:27] <byp> that's where aireplay comes in handy
[10:27] <jasin> if you use wep use 128 bit
[10:27] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, so Ubuntu shouldn't let users easily use WiFi?  Oh, and consider the method you have to use to connect to a network, if you were on a laptop and roamed.
[10:27] <jasin> both wep and wpa have been cracked
[10:27] <tyme-> but you also have to collect millions of packets for it to do so
[10:28] <BHSPitMonkey> mwe, Kubuntu uses KDE, but if you used Ubuntu and installed KDE, it wouldn't be Kubuntu
[10:28] <tyme-> BHSPitMonkey:  im on a laptop and used wifi out of the box
[10:28] <jerp> aptitude gives me the 'can not get lock' response I've checked the sysguard and I don't see anything running.    adept isn't running, synaptic isn't installed
[10:28] <tyme-> it clicked the applet on gnome task bar, entered in required info and i was connected to my network
[10:28] <mwe> BHSPitMonkey: what if I installed ubuntu then kubuntu-desktop?
[10:28] <byp> jerp: root?
[10:28] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, so every time you want to use a different AP, you go and redo your settings? (Oh, and also cross your fingers for WEP)
[10:28] <mwe> BHSPitMonkey: isn't the default window manager the only difference?
[10:28] <jerp> like sudo aptitude ?
[10:28] <byp> aye
[10:29] <Keeguon> Hey, I'm trying to compile fleox plugin for banshee but I got this "No package 'tao-opengl' found" so I suppose I have to do something with the Tao framework but what?
[10:29] <tyme-> BHSPitMonkey:  well yes, the default network manager app that ships with Ubuntu isn't advanced enough for that
[10:29] <jerp> byp, yes, and the terminal display appears and that is where I get the warning
[10:29] <byp> hmm, not sure
[10:29] <BHSPitMonkey> mwe, kubuntu is just a packaged distribution... to say that just having KDE is having Kubuntu, it to say that running GNOME means you're using Ubuntu
[10:30] <byp> error message =
[10:30] <jasin> There are lots of ways to secure wifi, connect over a vpn, use mac filtering, set your network to run over a subnet not directly off the main network, use authentication,etc..
[10:30] <tyme-> BHSPitMonkey:  but all you have to do is get the internet up and running, add and remove packages you want or dont need (network manager) and its fixed. I can see this might be a problem for linux newbies but with a little brain power and research it wouldn't take that long to figure out
[10:31] <mwe> BHSPitMonkey: difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is that ubuntu installs ubuntu-desktop whereas kubuntu installs kubuntu-desktop instead
[10:31] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, network-manager is an official gnome component, it has a very nice interface, excellent little "bars" icon on the notification area... it really needs to just come with ubuntu
[10:31] <jerp> I ran adept just now and  get,
[10:31] <BHSPitMonkey> mwe, right, after a base system
[10:31] <jerp> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[10:31] <mwe> BHSPitMonkey: which they both install
[10:31] <mwe> BHSPitMonkey: identically
[10:31] <jerp> the application opens though
[10:32] <BHSPitMonkey> mwe, kubuntu-desktop includes KDE, tailored the special ubuntu way, with all the things that make ubuntu ubuntu
[10:32] <mwe> BHSPitMonkey: ubuntu-base is the same
[10:32] <BHSPitMonkey> right
[10:32] <jasin> you can mask yoru ip address with a proxy, tinyproxy works great for doing that in ubuntu
[10:32] <scribebox> hello
[10:32] <scribebox> anyone wanna help me fix my fstab?
[10:32] <jasin> there are lots of things you can do to secure wifi
[10:33] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, the point is, on both my systems, and on my friends whose I set up, I wasn't able to use wireless out of the box. It required me to collect network-manager and its dependencies on a disk, or plug the computer into an ethernet router.
[10:33] <mwe> BHSPitMonkey: AFAIK installing kubuntu-desktop and removing ubuntu-desktop from a standard ubuntu install gives you exactly the same as if you installed kubuntu in the first place
[10:33] <byp> jerp: hmm,  not sure - check ps and look for anything that might be using the database
[10:33] <byp> :/
[10:33] <jerp> ps ?
[10:33] <byp> ps -A
[10:33] <jerp> ok
[10:33] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, and WiFi is frankly an area in which Ubuntu just falls short to XP, and it doesn't have to.
[10:33] <tyme-> BHSPitMonkey:  why? what was so difficult? If you can use windows network manager to add an AP you could easily do so in Ubuntu
[10:34] <byp> jerp: ou might want to pipe it through less...
[10:34] <tyme-> Linux and Windows = Apples and Oranges
[10:34] <jasin> the kubuntu desktop is kde its just configured and has icons that dress it up, make it look a bit prettier.
[10:34] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, the equivalent to using windows' AP connection tools is network-manager.
[10:34] <tyme-> of course it's going to be tougher in Linux, but Ubuntu does a great job of giving you all the tools you need right out of the box
[10:34] <jerp> byp, I don't know what that means   (I carry newb credentials)
[10:34] <byp> Are you saying apples are better than oranges???
[10:34] <hastesaver> mwe, BTW, installing the package kde installs even more "krap" than kubuntu-desktop
[10:34] <byp> :P
[10:35] <jasin> wifi works great in ubuntu if you have the right card.
[10:35] <byp> jerp: ps -A | less
[10:35] <jerp> ahh okie doke
[10:35] <jasin> my wifi nic is actually supported directly in the kernel its self.
[10:35] <mwe> hastesaver: it does? Personally I installed kdebase then added stuff ;)
[10:35] <pitdicker> Can someone help me installing fglrx 8.24.8 on Ubuntu Edgy?
[10:35] <tyme-> ipw2200 jasin?
[10:35] <byp> jerp: then look for anything that might be using the so-called software database like synaptic, apt-get, aptitude, dpkg, whatever else
[10:35] <BHSPitMonkey> in XP, you click on an icon, and a list of APs comes up. It supports various encryption types. In fresh Ubuntu, you have to figure out the networking properties' version of a wireless configuration tool, figure out some confusing stuff, and pray you're WEP or unprotected.
[10:35] <jasin> yep, ipw 2200 bg
[10:35] <cyphase> Has anyone gotten a GRUB error saying "Error 15: File not found" after installing Feisty?
[10:35] <jerp> ok
[10:35] <hastesaver> cyphase, ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:36] <tyme-> same jasin
[10:36] <cyphase> hastesaver: i have, but no one's answered. i thought since there are more people here..
[10:36] <byp> i fell back to dapper drake because it was more stable for me
[10:36] <jasin> I swaped mine out I didn't feel like ussing ndiswraper
[10:36] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, Ubuntu's focus is making something that anyone can use, at least as intuitively as one could use Windows.
[10:36] <tyme-> suse's 10.1 kernel had ipw2200 support, but it dont work :P
[10:37] <hastesaver> jerp, run this: ps aux | egrep "dpkg|apt-get|aptitude|synaptic|adept"
[10:37] <tyme-> BHSPitMonkey:  you're right, it doesnt show the AP's near you, you have to actually set ESSID and Hex key.
[10:37] <jasin> making linux more like windows will only mess up linux
[10:37] <tyme-> but if you have no idea how to do that, why would you install linux in the first place?
[10:37] <tyme-> jasin:  in some ways, but mostly it's a good thing
[10:37] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, just because I can accomplish something in ubuntu, doesn't mean I'm satisfied with how it was implemented. Nobody would bother developing an easy-to-use system, since developers are power users anyway.
[10:37] <jasin> i'm all for ease of use but making it like windows is stupid
[10:37] <byp> hastesaver: you made it easy :)
[10:37] <scribebox> i need help editing my fstab file..
[10:37] <scribebox> ;/
[10:37] <jay> hello, does some music player using gtk+ /gnome, looks like this http://farm1.static.flickr.com/144/340536762_8359d1aded_o.jpg
[10:37] <tyme-> linux becoming a great desktop os only furthers linux development
[10:37] <jerp> hastesaver: ok ...... I checked and saw two aptitudes running
[10:38] <jasin> type, not its not, its linux not windows
[10:38] <linuxeatswindows> happy new year
[10:38] <byp> jerp: sudo killall aptitude
[10:38] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, I'm more concerned about being able to tell people that they can have success with ubuntu, and be able to keep to my word...
[10:38] <linuxeatswindows> Is there a prog in linux that can make picture cd's with fancy transitions and music
[10:38] <tyme-> BHSPitMonkey:  right on. i agree the shipped app could be a LOT better but it works if you're using it at home and already know how to connect computers to your network
[10:38] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, it's really disheartening to have to go back and watch aspects fall short, after I tell people the superiority of linux
[10:39] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, if it's a stationary computer, it's essentially "stranded".
[10:39] <jasin> ubuntu is very easy to use its just dont seem easy to use because it falls short it supporting most hardware.
[10:39] <jerp> don't know what it means but wth
[10:39] <byp> jerp:that sounds redundant...
[10:39] <tyme-> BHSPitMonkey:  it picks up and connects to any AP without encryption
[10:40] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, and sometimes that's not acceptable
[10:40] <jerp> byp, I guess I'm cleared now :)
[10:40] <jasin> however, ibm and dell both have laptops with everything installed and preconfigured .. thats always a good way to go.
[10:40] <byp> jerp:  good luck :)
[10:40] <BHSPitMonkey> saying it's good enough for a group of people doesn't satisfy me :)
[10:40] <jerp> on the road to happier cybering,  at least for the mean time.
[10:41] <tyme-> BHSPitMonkey:  you can't say that for ANY application
[10:41] <tyme-> I personally do not like Network Manager
[10:41] <jerp> thanks byp and hasteserver
[10:41] <tyme-> nor use it.
[10:41] <BHSPitMonkey> I really back Ubuntu, but I'm allowed to find problems with how certain things have been implemented
[10:41] <hyperb0lix> hmm
[10:41] <hyperb0lix> that's better...
[10:41] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, well, it's very likely you dislike most of the utilities that make up ubuntu.
[10:42] <tyme-> Not true. I love ubuntu
[10:42] <BHSPitMonkey> why?
[10:42] <tyme-> imo it's the best distro that i've ever installed.
[10:42] <linuxeatswindows> yea me too
[10:42] <linuxeatswindows> and I installed them all
[10:42] <tyme-> I've only had it for 3-4 hours now and i feel that way.
[10:42] <BHSPitMonkey> lol
[10:42] <BHSPitMonkey> impressive, linuxeatswindows
[10:43] <hyperb0lix> indeed...
[10:43] <tyme-> thats a lot of distros linuxeatswindows
[10:43] <BHSPitMonkey> after the first few thousand distros, I'd personally get frustrated and give up
[10:43] <hyperb0lix> for me, the first hundred
[10:43] <hyperb0lix> :/
[10:43] <jasin> I was reading a post on the ubuntuforums the  other of a giy who uninstalled ubuntu and installed freebsd because it didn't support his hardware well, it was bugy.
[10:43] <BHSPitMonkey> I tried all the ones I heard about most often
[10:43] <tyme-> BHSPitMonkey:  same.
[10:43] <linuxeatswindows> all the major ones, I started with one I got out of linux format
[10:43] <jasin> BHsp, lol
[10:43] <sc4ttrbrain> i want to split HD partititon(resize and create new one),should i do it with gparted or within windows?which one is better?
[10:43] <tyme-> Mandrake for almost a few months, went back to windows
[10:44] <tyme-> then decided windows blows and im never going back
[10:44] <tyme-> so then Suse->debian->Suse
[10:44] <BHSPitMonkey> ubuntu is the first distro that I was able to make my primary (and near-exclusive) OS
[10:44] <jasin> sc4ttrbrain, do it with gparted
[10:44] <tyme-> now Ubuntu
[10:44] <tyme-> and i <3 Ubuntu :P
[10:44] <hyperb0lix> tyme-: you sound just like me :P
[10:44] <tyme-> i went back to windows for the gaming.
[10:44] <tyme-> only reason.
[10:44] <linuxeatswindows> so I've tried Debian, Slackware, Redhat/Fedora, Mandrake, College linux, Onebase, Knoppix, Ubuntu, Gentoo, SuSe, VidaLinux, and lots more
[10:44] <sc4ttrbrain> jasin: then when i reboot to windows,will it recognize the new partition?
[10:45] <BHSPitMonkey> I went Suse->Bunch of Random Mainstream Distros->Mandriva (all with Windows primarily), and then Ubuntu made the pushover.
[10:45] <hastesaver> sc4ttrbrain, if you want to resize the Windows partition, and you can do it on Windows, do it there... at least you won't blame Ubuntu if it fails :-)
[10:45] <jasin> sc4ttrbrain, get the gparted linux livecd, download the iso and burn it to a cd, boot with that and set up your partitions from there.
[10:45] <tyme-> Oh i had redhat for a couple days. wasnt that great.
[10:45] <jasin> sc4ttrbrain, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:45] <BHSPitMonkey> tyme-, same situation actually
[10:45] <tyme-> I'm a die hard Ubuntu fan now though.
[10:45] <BHSPitMonkey> I used to have like 6 OS partitions that I would rotate out various distros on
[10:45] <BHSPitMonkey> same.
[10:45] <tyme-> it's insanely faster than Suse
[10:45] <BHSPitMonkey> same.
[10:45] <tyme-> i have NO idea why
[10:45] <tyme-> but it is.
[10:45] <BHSPitMonkey> lol
[10:46] <jasin> sc4ttrbrain, after their set up with that restart the system and boot into the ubuntu installer with your ubuntu cd
[10:46] <sc4ttrbrain> jasin: i have gparted installed, why should i use live cd? is there any other differeneces?
[10:46] <linuxeatswindows> for me setting up Ubuntu with Automatix makes my life easy... The only thing I can say for Ubuntu is it would be nice if it came with a firewall installed by default like on Fedora
[10:46] <BHSPitMonkey> uhh, *Kough Kough* ;)
[10:46] <tyme-> After using YaST last night i got fed up and downloaded Ubuntu
[10:46] <tyme-> and boy im glad i used YaST and it's buggyness
[10:46] <linuxeatswindows> Yast4debian is defunct which sucks
[10:46] <tyme-> or else i wouldnt have switched
[10:46] <BHSPitMonkey> YaST is NaSTy
[10:46] <jasin> sc4ttrbrain, because you can setup the partitions outside of the ubuntu install cd
[10:46] <sc4ttrbrain> jasin: i ve running ubntu :D
[10:46] <tyme-> it truely is.
[10:46] <tyme-> HORRIBLE
[10:46] <BHSPitMonkey> indeed
[10:46] <jasin> sc4ttrbrain, if you are runing ubuntu why do you need to partition?
[10:47] <BHSPitMonkey> not a good first impression of linux, using Suse.
[10:47] <tyme-> Mandrake (back when it was mandrake) was my first impression
[10:47] <tyme-> and it impressed me :P
[10:47] <NoPulp> yast was ok .. but very slow and crappy lol
[10:47] <hyperb0lix> NoPulp: Thus, not ok?
[10:47] <tyme-> I've only recently came back to Linux (3 months ago) and it's surprising how far it's come.
[10:47] <BHSPitMonkey> I'm going to be the first to say that this conversation is grossly off-topic :P
[10:47] <sc4ttrbrain> jasin: i ve 3 parttion windows,data,ubuntu, i want to split data into data and mac,because i will install mac on it
[10:47] <tyme-> Has been for awhile.
[10:47] <NoPulp> i know thats why the "lol"
[10:48] <hastesaver> I first started with a Knoppix LiveCD, used Red Hat 9 for a few days, then went to Mandriva, and been only using Ubuntu since Hoary.
[10:48] <tyme-> this is a support channel, not a discussion channel :P
[10:48] <hyperb0lix> :P
[10:48] <Rookie_> !offtopic
[10:48] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:48] <NoPulp> my first linux was red hat 7.2
[10:48] <BHSPitMonkey> sc4ttrbrain, how do you intend on installing mac
[10:48] <tyme-> but theres just so many people here contributing to convos :P
[10:48] <tyme-> btw, happy new years everyone
[10:48] <sc4ttrbrain> BHSPitMonkey: using .img and dd
[10:48] <linuxeatswindows> anyone know of a prog to make picture cd's in ubuntu with music and transitions?
[10:48] <hyperb0lix> aye
[10:48] <BHSPitMonkey> huh?
[10:48] <tyme-> i've sobered up since coming on IRC apparently :P
[10:49] <tyme-> i actually hit my head on my door coming into my room.
[10:49] <BHSPitMonkey> sc4ttrbrain, are you on a PPC system or an intel/amd?
[10:49] <linuxeatswindows> lol
[10:49] <jasin> sc4ttrbrain, I never set up my partitions within linux, I like control over how their set up, I like to low level format, check for errors, setup separate partitions not outside of linux in case i run into error,etc.., but thats me.
[10:49] <sc4ttrbrain> BHSPitMonkey; im on pc
[10:49] <BHSPitMonkey> sc4ttrbrain, and you're dd'ing from an Intel mac?
[10:49] <hyperb0lix> jasin:  i like to run shred before partitioning/formatting
[10:49] <jasin> sc4ttrbrain, I never set up my partitions within linux, I like control over how their set up, I like to low level format, check for errors, setup separate partitions outside of linux in case i run into error,etc.., but thats me.
[10:49] <tyme-> time for bed, night everyone.
[10:49] <sc4ttrbrain> BHSPitMonkey: no
[10:50] <jasin> hyper, no need if the drive is low level formated
[10:50] <linuxeatswindows> night tyme-
[10:50] <hyperb0lix> jasin: just personal preference - I'm paranoid :P
[10:50] <jasin> hyperb0 hehe
[10:50] <jasin> hyper, i understand :)
[10:51] <BHSPitMonkey> sc4ttrbrain, I think you should instead be using PearPC, either within Ubuntu or Windows. Or both, and keep the disk image and config in the data partition.
[10:51] <hyperb0lix> yup
[10:51] <sc4ttrbrain> BHSPitMonkey: no,i want to boot it natively
[10:51] <sc4ttrbrain> just need to split partition safely,which i dont know how
[10:52] <BHSPitMonkey> sc4ttrbrain, am I really the first to point out that you can't do that?
[10:52] <sc4ttrbrain> BHSPitMonkey: cant do what? install mac? havent u heard macosx?
[10:53] <BHSPitMonkey> lol, indeed I have.
[10:53] <jasin> if you are going to do a secure wipe you should make no less then 30 passes with a dod complient wipe.
[10:53] <BHSPitMonkey> it's been out for a few years now.
[10:53] <jasin> hehe
[10:53] <byp> jasin:  xd yeah
[10:53] <sc4ttrbrain> BHSPitMonkey: yup,i mean,as long as u have sse2 or 3 u can install mac on it right?
[10:54] <byp> jasin: but the failsafe method is incineration, of course
[10:54] <BHSPitMonkey> sc4ttrbrain, and it runs on PowerPC processors.    There's also osx-x86, which is what runs on the "new" Intel-based macs, but you can't use that on a normal PC.  At least, not without using an illegal, hacked version
[10:54] <jasin> that in combination with a low level format, and not just a zero fil low level format, will destroy virtually any data left
[10:54] <byp> indeed
[10:55] <byp> i've been trying out dd for my zero-filling, lately
[10:55] <BHSPitMonkey> I hear it's better to use random bits than zeros.
[10:55] <sc4ttrbrain> BHSPitMonkey: dont worry,even though im using it ,i will only use it to know whether its worth to buy ;)
[10:55] <byp> BHSPitMonkey: that's what I use shred for
[10:56] <jasin> BHsp, that is true
[10:56] <BHSPitMonkey> sc4ttrbrain, and as far as "safely" splitting that partition, 1) Backup, 2) Delete, 3) Make Two, 4) Restore Backup
[10:56] <byp> you could always also do dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/foo
[10:56] <BHSPitMonkey> heh
[10:56] <jasin> BHsp, over writing again and again with random bits and bytes is the best way to destroy data.
[10:57] <byp> jasin: nah
[10:57] <byp> jasin: just nuke the drive
[10:57] <byp> jasin: with a nuke
[10:57] <BHSPitMonkey> put the drive in a microwave
[10:57] <jasin> byp, i wanna keep the drive lol
[10:57] <byp> jasin: :P
[10:57] <BHSPitMonkey> then crush it into a powder and distribute it into several differently-located meals
[10:57] <sc4ttrbrain> BHSPitMonkey: cant i just use gparted > 1.unmount that part. 2.resize 3.create new ?
[10:57] <jasin> byp, I dont use thermite unless the drive is total dead
[10:57] <jasin> lol
[10:57] <seshomaru> is there a gnome application that allows me to connect rempotly to other boxes graphically?
[10:57] <byp> lol
[10:58] <byp> VNC
[10:58] <BHSPitMonkey> sc4ttrbrain, resizing a partition is ALWAYS dangerous.
[10:58] <byp> not GNOME though
[10:58] <KenSentMe> !vnc > seshomaru
[10:58] <seshomaru> KenSentMe, do i need to apt-get it?
[10:58] <KenSentMe> Hey, where is ubotu?
[10:58] <sc4ttrbrain> BHSPitMonkey: how dangerous? :D
[10:58] <BHSPitMonkey> sc4ttrbrain, never do a resize unless you're prepared to deal with the possible consequences. (Losing it all.)
[10:59] <BHSPitMonkey> sc4ttrbrain, is it absolutely impossible to backup this data
[10:59] <Madpilot> ubotu, ping
[10:59] <ubotu> 64 bytes from ubotu (10.13.37.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.33 ms
[11:00] <seshomaru> KenSentMe, does the remote machine need to have VNC as well?
[11:00] <byp> seshomaru: server, it does
[11:00] <KenSentMe> seshomaru: on the machine you want to connect to, go to System - Preferences - Remote Desktop and do the right settings. Then use Applications - Internet - Terminal server client to connect
[11:00] <byp> dammit
[11:00] <sc4ttrbrain> BHSPitMonkey: so,if i was to resize it from windows then it safe?since it contains windows only data....will this change the number of root partition /dev/hdXX
[11:00] <sc4ttrbrain> ?
[11:00] <jasin> you need 7 partition, root / , /usr, /var, /home, swap, /boot, /tmp make home and usr the bigest, boot at least 100 megabytes and swap 2.5 x the total amount of memory installed.
[11:00] <KenSentMe> Madpilot: shouldn't ubotu react on !bla things?
[11:01] <jasin> you need 7 partition, root / , /usr, /var, /home, swap, /boot, /tmp make home and usr the bigest, boot at least 100 megabytes and swap 2.5 x the total amount of memory installed.
[11:01] <klaus> Hallo - Ein schnes neues Jahr ! Wie wird  unter edgy die floppy automatisch eingebunden? habe probs mit autofs! :(
[11:01] <BHSPitMonkey> sc4ttrbrain, windows won't resize partitions.
[11:01] <KenSentMe> !de
[11:01] <jasin> You can make 4 primary partitions and the rest have to be logical
[11:01] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:01] <Madpilot> KenSentMe, it does - but it stopped sending a "sent <foo> to <user>" PM to you when you did !foo > bar
[11:01] <seshomaru> KenSentMe, the other box is in another country ,can do the settings thru command line?
[11:01] <sc4ttrbrain> BHSPitMonkey: it can,using partition magic
[11:01] <BHSPitMonkey> sc4ttrbrain, is it ntfs?
[11:01] <KenSentMe> Madpilot: what is the best syntacs now then?
[11:01] <sc4ttrbrain> BHSPitMonkey: fat32
[11:01] <BHSPitMonkey> sc4ttrbrain, windows != partition magic
[11:02] <sc4ttrbrain> :p
[11:02] <BHSPitMonkey> windows is one piece of software, pm is another
[11:02] <Madpilot> ubotu, ubotu | KenSentMe
[11:02] <ubotu> KenSentMe: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:02] <klaus> Hello, A happy new year !! How is the floppy automounted unter edgy? I have probs with that ... :(
[11:02] <hyperb0lix> Apples != Oranges
[11:02] <pitdicker> Can someone help me installing fglrx 8.24.8 on Edgy?
[11:02] <BHSPitMonkey> one depends on the other
[11:02] <BHSPitMonkey> not in hyperb0lix's case, but yeah
[11:02] <klaus> (i tried autofs, but wont work for floppy)
[11:02] <KenSentMe> ubotu, thanks | Madpilot
[11:02] <ubotu> Madpilot: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[11:02] <hyperb0lix> what? :P
[11:02] <hyperb0lix> apples depend on oranges.....
[11:02] <hyperb0lix> .
[11:02] <KenSentMe> :)
[11:02] <Madpilot> KenSentMe, the bar | is fairly new, and useful - lots of new people have trouble figuring out PMs
[11:02] <BHSPitMonkey> sc4ttrbrain, personally, I've never used partition magic.
[11:03] <BHSPitMonkey> I can't say how safely it works.
[11:03] <hyperb0lix> sc4ttrbrain: fdisk ftw
[11:03] <BHSPitMonkey> lol
[11:03] <jasin> I have partition magic on a boot disk, runs frm dos, it works fine for creating linux paritition, except for it limiting you to 2 gig swap partitions.
[11:03] <KenSentMe> Madpilot: ok
[11:03] <BHSPitMonkey> yes, fdisk will take special care to make sure you don't lose any data...
[11:03] <BHSPitMonkey> >.>
[11:03] <BHSPitMonkey> <.<
[11:03] <mensur> !TAO
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about TAO - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <BHSPitMonkey> jasin, why would you ever need anything bigger????
[11:03] <klaus> is autofs the regular way under edgy for automounting floppy-discs ?
[11:03] <BHSPitMonkey> 1GB is as big as I've ever made them
[11:04] <sc4ttrbrain> thanks
[11:04] <BHSPitMonkey> and that's excessive
[11:04] <hyperb0lix> I tried a 4.5 gig swap partition for fun
[11:04] <hyperb0lix> How's that for excessive?
[11:04] <mensur> !tao-opengl
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tao-opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <jasin> BHsp, swap shoudl be 2 times total memory installed, thats a standard rule of thumb.
[11:04] <hyperb0lix> jasin: not quite
[11:04] <BHSPitMonkey> jasin, that's not applicable anymore.
[11:04] <KenSentMe> seshomaru: i don't know that. Probably there is a way
[11:04] <mensur> does anyone know where to get that package "tao-opengl"???
[11:04] <hyperb0lix> jasin: I was reading the OpenBSD installation guide, and that's not true
[11:05] <jasin> if you want to swap all your memory or half of when you run out yes it does.
[11:05] <hyperb0lix> jasin: although I seem to have broken it with a 4.5 gig swap partition
[11:05] <BHSPitMonkey> jasin, a PC with 2GB of RAM, for example, doesn't really need a swap partition. (even though ubuntu requires one, I hear)
[11:05] <KenSentMe> seshomaru: maybe check here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[11:05] <jasin> BHsp, depends on what one is doing with that system.
[11:06] <hyperb0lix> I should make a 70GB swap... then 5GB /......
[11:06] <BHSPitMonkey> jasin, if you're doing tasks which require over 2GB of ram, in that case, swap isn't going to cover it.
[11:06] <hyperb0lix> ubuntu won't fit, eh?
[11:06] <seshomaru> KenSentMe, thanx
[11:06] <jasin> I have 2 gigs and the system nevrr usses the swap, btu i dont really do very intensive things.
[11:06] <BHSPitMonkey> if hard drive swap was preferable, we wouldn't have RAM
[11:07] <BHSPitMonkey> swap wouldn't be a tolerable replacement for ram if a program demanded more than what was provided
[11:07] <hyperb0lix> More RAM
[11:07] <jasin> BHSp, thats why linux only runs resources out of ram when their used.
[11:08] <jasin> Bhsp, you is right though, its alwaus bets to use ram rather then swap.
[11:08] <jasin> best*
[11:08] <Madpilot> BHSPitMonkey, unless Edgy's installer has changed things, you can still order Ubuntu to install w/o swap
[11:08] <hyperb0lix> And if you have plenty of RAM, you don't need an overly large swap partition
[11:09] <BHSPitMonkey> Madpilot, just basing on what I heard a few minutes ago from someone.
[11:09] <BHSPitMonkey> Madpilot, I've never tried to omit one
[11:09] <hyperb0lix> Better safe than sorry
[11:09] <Madpilot> BHSPitMonkey, when I had to reinstall Dapper I did not set up a swap partition, the installer complained once, then worked fine.
[11:09] <Madpilot> I've got 1Gb of RAM, don't need swap
[11:10] <BHSPitMonkey> indeed
[11:11] <JosefK> swap is useful for when app's request large blocks of RAM, most of which they aren't going to use yet
[11:12] <jasin> If your system truly does not use the swap ever and never will you can disabled it, easy enough to do in nough to do in /etc/fstab
[11:12] <jasin> enough*
[11:12] <BHSPitMonkey> is there any benefit to disabling a swap partition you already have
[11:12] <jasin> josefk, yes
[11:13] <BHSPitMonkey> I mean, it's already there... there would have to be a good reason for me to go through the trouble of commenting a line in fstab ;)
[11:14] <pitdicker> Can someone help me installing fglrx 8.24.8 on Edgy?
[11:14] <jasin> BHsp, I've heard it speeds up the system, not sure how it would though.
[11:14] <tmichael> hej jestem poczatkujacym uzytkownikiem linuxa ubuntu wie ktos jak zainstalowac tutaj kadu?
[11:15] <Madpilot> !pl
[11:15] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:15] <jasin> use sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx that will install the latest
[11:15] <shemale> hi guys im getting a problem while installing ubuntu  on my tablet at the disk partition step, I choose the first option to resize automaticly the partition, but when I click foward, nothing happens...
[11:16] <pitdicker> I need an older version of fglrx becouse my DVI doen't work
[11:16] <pitdicker> It seems 8.24.8 works
[11:16] <tonyyarusso> compengi: I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
[11:17] <shemale> well normally when I let the ubuntu setup resize
[11:17] <compengi> tonyyarusso, i want to send files using terminal from my linux pc to my shell, i had used scp for the backwards process. can it be done the other way using scp?
[11:17] <shemale> automatic resize setup do his work, theres no problem, and it goes to step 6 of 6 , but now im stuck at step 5...
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> compengi: sure, if you have the user and IP of the other machine, and it has an ssh server installed
[11:18] <tripppy> anyone useing mvTV python script?
[11:18] <shemale> is it possible that my hp tablet has blocked any configuration change to the partitions
[11:18] <pitdicker> building it with the following commant fails:
[11:18] <pitdicker> sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel
[11:19] <jasin> I have no idea where you can get 8.24.8, sorry.
[11:19] <jasin> shemale, do the entire erase option.
[11:19] <compengi> tonyyarusso, i used scp like this. scp user@shell.machine.here:/folder/here /to/my/directory/
[11:20] <shemale> yah thats what im thinking but the thing is
[11:20] <shemale> I dont want to lose the windows partition
[11:20] <jasin> shemale, that wont set up all the separate partitions you need but it will set up the minimal, enough ti get you up and runing.
[11:20] <compengi> tonyyarusso, and that was copying process
[11:20] <shemale> with the all the shit I wanna keep
[11:20] <jasin> shemale, no, you will erase the entire disk
[11:21] <compengi> tonyyarusso, and now i want to copy from my pc to the shell machine
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> compengi: So the other way would be scp /to/my/directory/ user@shell.machine.here:/folder/here/
[11:21] <shemale> but what about the windows partition...
[11:21] <shemale> its on the disk
[11:21] <shemale> so you are saying theres no choice ?
[11:21] <compengi> tonyyarusso, okay let me try it then
[11:21] <jasin> shemale, either backup or use the gparted linux live cd, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[11:22] <jasin> shemale, anyways, you shoudll always backup regardless/
[11:23] <shemale> yah
[11:23] <jasin> shemale, anyways, you should always backup regardless.
[11:23] <shemale> but I think
[11:23] <shemale> ill partition my disk
[11:23] <pitdicker> jasin, have you experiance with compiling it?
[11:23] <shemale> in 2 partitions
[11:23] <shemale> in windows
[11:23] <jasin> pitdicker, compiling what?
[11:23] <shemale> so that will fix the problem
[11:23] <shemale> im pretty sure
[11:23] <pitdicker> fglrx from ati.com
[11:24] <jasin> shemale, linux should be first and do not install grub to the mbr install it to the boot sec.
[11:24] <jasin> pitdicker, no need to there is a binary on the site
[11:25] <seshomaru> shemale, r u trying to resize a windows partition?
[11:25] <shemale> well the thing is
[11:25] <jasin> There is a .run on the site
[11:25] <compengi> tonyyarusso, thanks alot, it worked :D
[11:25] <spasti> hi
[11:25] <shemale> to make it clear
[11:26] <shemale> my hp tc 4400 tablet is configured on one c: 70 Gbs and one HP SPECIAL BACK UP D :  10 GBS
[11:26] <jasin> Here's instructions on how to install the ati driver: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.26.18-inst.html
[11:26] <shemale> now I want to install ubuntu with a dual boot
[11:27] <shemale> but when I get to the partition setup windows in ubuntu install
[11:27] <shemale> when I choose Resize partition #1 and use feed space nothing happen...
[11:27] <shemale> when I click on Forward...
[11:27] <jasin> ahhh you have to comitt the changes
[11:28] <jasin> seshomar, tell her how to apply/comitt the changes
[11:28] <jasin> lol
[11:28] <june> where might i get the falcon repository builder in a form that i can install it on a webserver that i don't have administrative rights on?
[11:28] <pitdicker> I'll give it a trie, I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b
[11:28] <shemale> and when I choose the manual edit partition table and I click foward nothing happens also...
[11:29] <june> i COULD host on my personal computer but i've got like 4kbps upstream so that would be worthless
[11:29] <shemale> all this from 6.06 live CD
[11:29] <shemale> maybe someone could give me remote assistance on that one
[11:30] <seshomaru> shemale, is that the graphic interface or the command line ?
[11:30] <jasin> shemale, use that live cd I gave you a link too, you can setup the partitions outside of linux with it .. it might make things easier for you.
[11:31] <shemale> graphic interface
[11:31] <samuel> sup all
[11:31] <jasin> shemal, just resize the partition and after its resized setup two partitions, a root partition / and a swap .. make them primary.
[11:31] <jasin> shemale, set them up in the free space left over after its resized
[11:31] <shemale> yah okey but the thing is I have to do it with the terminal caus theres a fuck with the graphical
[11:32] <jasin> shemale, no, set up the partitions with the live cd I gave you a link to
[11:32] <mwe> which ghostscript is recommended, gs-gpl, gs-esp or gs-afpl?
[11:32] <samuel> where does apt store its gpg keys?
[11:32] <shemale> all right
[11:32] <jasin> shemale, also, you may want to download a now iso for ubuntu, burn a new copy, sounds like yours is messed up.
[11:33] <shemale> well maybe
[11:33] <samuel> apt is listing EVERY package as NOT AUTHENTICATED, how can i fix this?
[11:33] <shemale> caus normally
[11:33] <shemale> I mean
[11:33] <phr34ck> Good morning everyone
[11:33] <seshomaru> shemale, i would use the alternate CD to install
[11:33] <shemale> Im supposed to at least be able to choose the manual edit partition table option...
[11:33] <seshomaru> shemale, and defrag windows before resizing it
[11:34] <shemale> maybe theres a scratch on the dvd
[11:34] <shemale> its a cheap princo :P
[11:35] <gaten> !sound
[11:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[11:35] <finn_> !ntfs
[11:35] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[11:35] <shemale> thanx people !!!
[11:35] <shemale> very appreciated
[11:36] <jasin> shemale, yes, just toss the disk and burn a new one.
[11:36] <jasin> shemale, you is welcomed :)
[11:36] <cybercod> shemale, you could also use partition magic to resize first from windoze and click "install to largest free space"
[11:36] <shemale> yah but the iso is on my windows shittt ?%$%%/$% so I have to log out from Linux :(
[11:36] <compengi> tonyyarusso, could tell me please how to delete a dir from the ssh?
[11:36] <shemale> yahh
[11:37] <shemale> thats what I can do
[11:37] <cybercod> you can access windows partition from live disk
[11:37] <shemale> but I can also do as Jasin told me
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> compengi: 'rmdir' is the command
[11:37] <shemale> with gparted..
[11:37] <cybercod> you just have to mount it... in Disks
[11:37] <shinobi3> hi
[11:37] <compengi> tonyyarusso, it says directory not empty
[11:38] <cybercod> its read only, but you may be able to burn the ISO.... i dunno if live disk has burner ready to go
[11:38] <shemale> what is better gparted or partition magic ?
[11:38] <cybercod> may also depend on how much ram you have for the ramdrive
[11:38] <cybercod> Part Magic is a little more polished
[11:38] <shinobi3> is there a way to reformat my flash drive? like totally redo that parition table? i think i screwed it up with 'dd'
[11:38] <cybercod> but each has their limitations
[11:38] <tonyyarusso> compengi: there's an option in the man page if you want to delete a non-empty directory
[11:39] <shemale> I have 1.5 Gbs ;)
[11:39] <cybercod> you may have to use synaptic to install burning into live disk session
[11:40] <cybercod> not sure on that point...
[11:40] <spasti> is livecd very fun?
[11:41] <cybercod> live cd is about the same as the freshly installed desktop, but runs slower
[11:41] <cybercod> shemale, check IM
[11:42] <jasin> I always have a backup computer to burn iso's from when installing linux hehe
[11:42] <shinobi3> exit
[11:42] <shinobi3> quit
[11:42] <cybercod> i keep a pristine DVD of all my OS ISO's
[11:43] <cybercod> shemale, still there?
[11:43] <phr34ck> what does LTS mean?
[11:43] <cybercod> Long term support
[11:43] <phr34ck> Like Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[11:43] <phr34ck> cybercod, do you know why they say that?
[11:43] <cybercod> I think its like 3 years of dedicated support
[11:43] <phr34ck> I mean, what's the idea?
[11:43] <cybercod> maybe 5
[11:43] <phr34ck> cybercod: thanks.
[11:43] <jasin> I got mom's computer, the computers in the cne lab, the computers in the cis lab, that old junky pIII in the closet, and my desktop hehe
[11:44] <cybercod> thats how long they'll support it in the forums and such
[11:44] <shinobi4> 
[11:44] <koyo001> hello
[11:44] <shinobi4> 
[11:44] <koyo001> i have a problem
[11:44] <cybercod> ?
[11:44] <shemale> cybercod
[11:44] <shemale> im here
[11:44] <shemale> I was on my tablet
[11:44] <koyo001> Wireless
[11:44] <koyo001> **For Edgy Follow this how to: (use these drivers) Click Here **
[11:44] <koyo001> (Dell 1390 or Broadcom 4311 only, if you have the Intel card it should work out of the box.)
[11:44] <koyo001> **For Dapper:**
[11:44] <koyo001> 1. choose a location in your home folder for all downloads, such as wireless drivers, etc.
[11:44] <koyo001> 2. download latest ndiswrapper: ndiswrapper 1.23
[11:44] <koyo001> 3. place downloaded file somewhere in a folder in your home folder and using terminal CD into that folder
[11:45] <koyo001> 4. tar xvzf ndiswrapper-1.23.tar.gz
[11:45] <koyo001> 5. cd ndiswrapper-1.23
[11:45] <koyo001> 6. sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:45] <shemale> ohhh by the way
[11:45] <koyo001> 7. blacklist bcm43xx at the end of the file
[11:45] <Madpilot> koyo001, I'll unmute you in a minute
[11:45] <shemale> the link for the script to automatcly mount the windows partitions
[11:45] <Madpilot> next time, use a pastebin!
[11:45] <shemale> its broken...
[11:45] <cybercod> you wanna know how to mount them manually for the live session?
[11:45] <shemale> ubuntu-nl.org/files/diskmounter
[11:46] <cybercod> they'll be mounted auto after the install
[11:46] <shemale> I just wanna know if theres a script out there that ll do it
[11:46] <cybercod> its not hard... you don't need a script
[11:46] <shemale> caus Im on a Desktop right now and the install didnt mount them automatcly
[11:47] <shemale> im using 6.06
[11:47] <cybercod> you need to edit fstab then
[11:47] <koyo001> helo
[11:47] <shemale> I have the link from ubuntu to do it manually
[11:47] <koyo001> i need help
[11:47] <koyo001> if someone could give me a hand
[11:47] <cybercod> koyo... i'm familiar with that... but wait a moment
[11:48] <koyo001> ok
[11:48] <koyo001> waiting
[11:48] <cybercod> shemale... are you just trying to mount so you can burn a new ISO?
[11:48] <shemale> no
[11:49] <shemale> I can burn a new iso
[11:49] <shemale> thats not a problem
[11:49] <shemale> I just can restart the comp
[11:49] <jasin> shemale, you need a windows boot disk if you want to fix windows temporarly.
[11:49] <shemale>  and boot in windows ;)
[11:49] <cybercod> so you have an install that is not mounting them automatically
[11:49] <cybercod> oh..
[11:49] <cybercod> no grub menu?
[11:49] <cybercod> or is it straight to windows
[11:49] <jasin> shemale, you will have to rebuild the mbr for the time being if you want to boot back into windows
[11:49] <shemale> oh yah ?
[11:50] <shemale> caus the installation is not complete
[11:50] <aeon> hello all, Happy New Year
[11:50] <shemale> even if im only in live cd right now...?
[11:50] <jasin> shemale, yes because you instaleld grub but grub is not confiqured
[11:50] <jasin> shemale, so it dont know what to boot
[11:50] <AidanL> I am having to reinstall Ubuntu after a problem with the install last night. However after I have deleted the partition it is still trying to load Ubuntu which is preventing me from getting onto windows. How do I go about solving this?
[11:50] <aeon> could anyone please answer 1 question
[11:50] <shemale> anyway theres no problem
[11:50] <shemale> caus I have two comps
[11:51] <cybercod> yes... re-installing the MBR for windows will take a Windows Install disk
[11:51] <shemale> my desktop is already installed with dual boot ubuntu and windows
[11:51] <elkbuntu> !ask
[11:51] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:51] <jasin> aidan, you need to add windows to  grub
[11:51] <AidanL> How do I go about doing that?
[11:51] <shemale> and now all the questions I asked you were for my tablet PC
[11:51] <aeon> when i boot ubuntu 6.10 live cd it shows me video mode not supported
[11:51] <shemale> so even if I run into a problem
[11:51] <aeon> on screen
[11:51] <jasin> shemale, press esc when grub comes up, if windows is not listed then you will have to rebuild the mbr.
[11:51] <cybercod> so when you turn it on, what do you get? nothing? error 17?
[11:52] <shemale> okey ill try
[11:52] <shemale> but the thing is
[11:52] <shemale> I can always partition manually my windows partitions with the console
[11:52] <shemale> so I dont need to boot windows to do it...
[11:53] <koyo001> i need to configure my wireless
[11:53] <aeon> could anyone please help me?
[11:53] <koyo001> followed instruccions but failes
[11:53] <cybercod> koyo... you've got the broadcom right?
[11:53] <koyo001> failed
[11:53] <koyo001> i have a dell inspiron 6400
[11:53] <koyo001> its  a common problem
[11:53] <ski-worklap> i have an averatec 7100 series
[11:54] <ski-worklap> my problem is worse, i assure you
[11:54] <cybercod> makes no difference who made the PC... its broadcom wireless
[11:54] <cybercod> right?
[11:54] <koyo001> ok
[11:54] <burryl> can beryl have a different desktop on each of its four faces of the cube? right now for my beryl, all faces of the cube display the same desktop
[11:54] <koyo001> then broadcom it is
[11:54] <koyo001> it sucks
[11:54] <AidanL> How do I add windows to the grub?
[11:54] <koyo001> i want atheros
[11:54] <cybercod> built in? or card?
[11:54] <koyo001> built in
[11:55] <cybercod> AidanL  sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.lst
[11:55] <aeon> why do i get Video mode not supported on screen just abouts when ubuntu starts, my gfx card is Nivida xfx geforce 6600 gt 256mb
[11:55] <cybercod> may be grub.list  not sure
[11:55] <koyo001> i have instruccions that tell me exactly how to do it
[11:55] <AidanL> I see but there is an error when the comptuer is booting up...
[11:55] <AidanL> a Grub error.
[11:55] <cybercod> there will be an example for windows booting... the name doesn't matter thats just the label for the option. ... something to do with chainloader
[11:56] <cybercod> you'll see it
[11:56] <AndrewG> hi, I'm needing help manually installing grub, how do we do it?
[11:56] <cybercod> koyo... is that a laptop internal card?
[11:56] <koyo001> yep
[11:56] <cybercod> ok... wait lemme research where i found the answer before when i was going through that
[11:57] <AidanL> If I write over the partition which has Ubuntu on, will that then stop the problem with the Grub error?
[11:57] <cybercod> AndrewG ... get the UltimateBootCD
[11:57] <cybercod> you can find torrents of the ISO pretty easily
[11:57] <AndrewG> not that easy :S
[11:58] <AndrewG> we've only got an [k] ubuntu cd to work with
[11:58] <AndrewG> can it be installed off there?
[11:58] <cybercod> no... that won't Aidan.. it will probably make it worse
[11:58] <AndrewG> talking to a guy at the moment on the phone, he's got no internet, just ubuntu
[11:59] <cybercod> Hmmm... there is an install grub command, but I forget what it is... i'll be gone a few moments for research
[11:59] <AndrewG> thanks :)
[11:59] <koyo001> humm
[11:59] <koyo001> would it help
[11:59] <AndrewG> grub-install /dev/hda1 would do it wouldn't it?
[11:59] <jasin> This is what happens folks, if you install linux and the installation fails and you already had windows installd you will not be able to boot windows, grub, the program that loads linux got installed ahead of windows and didnt have time to be setup to load windows.
[11:59] <shemale> yah but what if
[12:00] <koyo001> if i sent the post where it gives specificacions on how to do it??
[12:00] <Gosha> http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-12-30-voa24.cfm <--- WTF O_O why is mr bean on that page? ( under the top picture )
[12:00] <shemale> you didnt even started installing linux the setup fucked up in live cd at the partitionning stage...
[12:00] <AndrewG> HEY ITS GOATSE
[12:01] <shemale> okey guys I have a BIGGGG problem now.... my tablet PC Bios is not responding
[12:01] <shemale> WTF...
[12:01] <shemale> I cant enter the setup...
[12:01] <cybercod> for re-installing grub via a live CD http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[12:01] <AndrewG> thanks heaps :)
[12:01] <shemale> its the first time that this ever happened to me...
[12:02] <jasin> There are two ways to fix that. 1. you can startup the computer with a boot disk and type fdisk /mbr from the dos command line go into windows do what you need to, then reinstall linux or 2. tell grub if you are able to get back into linux to load windows, you will need to edit the grub.lst file to do that, someone already gave instructions on how to do that.
[12:02] <nivekz> hi there. i meet a problem. the official repositories that can be choose in synaptic are only "main" and "US". I used to have a local mirror. How can i get it back, i need it
[12:02] <jasin> This is what happens folks, if you install linux and the installation fails and you already had windows installd you will not be able to boot windows, grub, the program that loads linux got installed ahead of windows and didnt have time to be setup to load windows.
[12:02] <jasin> There are two ways to fix that. 1. you can startup the computer with a boot disk and type fdisk /mbr from the dos command line go into windows do what you need to, then reinstall linux or 2. tell grub if you are able to get back into linux to load windows, you will need to edit the grub.lst file to do that, someone already gave instructions on how to do that.
[12:03] <koyo001> still waiting
[12:04] <shemale> yah but the problem is I cant even go on the Bios...
[12:04] <koyo001> for an answer cybercod
[12:04] <arty_name> Hello. How can I replace a module which is automatically loaded, even in recovery mode?
[12:04] <cafuego_> replace?
[12:04] <cybercod> koyo  try that page http://www.beginningubuntu.com/dapper_tips.html#Using_Ndiswrapper_to_get_wifi_working
[12:04] <arty_name> yes, replace
[12:04] <cybercod> re-install?
[12:05] <jasin> shemale, linux will nto prevent you from going into the bios, no os will.
[12:05] <arty_name> I've compiled up-to-date module from sources and now I want to put it in place of old module.
[12:05] <koyo001> yeah thats where i have the problem
[12:05] <koyo001> with ndiswrapper
[12:05] <AidanL> Cybercod: sorry for the late reply. The thing is, is that I deleted the parition that Ubuntu was on because I was having problems with it. Thats why I was getting an Grub Error.
[12:06] <koyo001> when i use the terminal
[12:06] <koyo001> the terminal tells me that the command doent exist
[12:06] <shemale> jasin I know that
[12:06] <AidanL> And my Live CD wasn't working, despite 2 different downloads of it and matches of the MD5 sum.
[12:06] <jasin> shemale, press del or f2 or f12, whatever you is asked to, when you first startup the computer from a cold boot.
[12:06] <cybercod> Aidan... this on laptop or desktop?
[12:06] <AidanL> Desktop
[12:06] <koyo001> laptop
[12:06] <shemale> im waiting the cpu to be cold
[12:06] <cybercod> remove non-essential hardware Aidan... then try live cd again
[12:06] <shemale> caus as of the last time Ive booted
[12:07] <AidanL> Kk, I will do soon.
[12:07] <AidanL> Thanks.
[12:07] <cybercod> no prob
[12:07] <jasin> shemale, unplug the computer, thnen plug it back in and press the power button, thats a cold boot.
[12:07] <shemale> my tablet the keyboard wasnt ansering... so forget about F10 or F12 or del
[12:07] <shemale> okey
[12:07] <shemale> lets try with the battery alone
[12:07] <cybercod> koyo... perhaps you were not rebooting after blacklisting, and before installing ndiswrapper
[12:08] <jasin> shemale, if you is in linux you can type poweroff from the comand line, that will shutdown the computer as well
[12:08] <koyo001> no one said to reboot
[12:08] <june> anyone set up a mediawiki before?
[12:08] <cybercod> the page I just gave you does
[12:08] <samuel> sup all
[12:08] <cybercod> it is due to that other driver being installed already
[12:08] <cybercod> so uninstall ndiswrapper and ndisgtk
[12:08] <shemale> yah but like I said im chatting with you via my desktop comp, but its my tablet pc that is messed up
[12:09] <Gosha> what kind of package does 'ping' send?
[12:09] <cybercod> make sure the blacklist entry is correct
[12:09] <cybercod> reboot
[12:09] <samuel> why does amd64 arch boot in greyscale only? seems to have no colour while the x86 has colour to it?
[12:09] <samuel> is that normal?
[12:09] <apotri> sup all
[12:09] <cybercod> re-install ndis-stuff and load up the windows driver for the wireless via ndis... you do have the windows driver right?
[12:10] <cybercod> any luck yet shemale?
[12:10] <Gasten> Gosha: I think there is that kind of info on wikipedia.
[12:10] <shemale> ohh man cybercod
[12:10] <shemale> this is strange
[12:10] <shemale> the bios startup
[12:10] <shemale> is taking soooo long
[12:10] <computer> what's the ubuntu equivalent of konversation?
[12:10] <shemale> and like after 45 secs
[12:10] <cybercod> i hate those days
[12:10] <shemale> my bios boot up password is appearing
[12:10] <cybercod> gaim works for irc
[12:11] <shemale> but the problem is my keyboard is not answering...
[12:11] <samuel> computer: gaim
[12:11] <Gasten> computer: gaim. but konversation works to.
[12:11] <shemale> I CANT imput anything...
[12:11] <cybercod> and thats on a tablet?
[12:11] <shemale> yah
[12:11] <shemale> HP TC 4400
[12:12] <shemale> but thats weird im pretty sure that even If tried to install linux, it didnt messed up with my keyboard
[12:12] <samuel> does ubuntu have a "sid" version?
[12:12] <cybercod> I'd power down, remove batteries, remove cmos battery (if you can get to it), and let it chill a little bit
[12:12] <shemale> yah
[12:12] <cybercod> then the bios may be in better shape
[12:12] <shemale> yah
[12:12] <shemale> some shit like that
[12:12] <shemale> now I remember
[12:12] <shemale> on my desktop
[12:12] <shemale> it was complety fucked up
[12:12] <shemale> Ive waited like
[12:13] <shemale> 20 mins
[12:13] <shemale> and by miracle
[12:13] <jasin> always backup yoru data, even if you dont think you need to. If you is not sure what to back up in linux you can backup /  and /home and in windows c:
[12:13] <shemale> all was working again...
[12:13] <DBO> shemale, watch the swearing
[12:13] <samuel> i know feisty fawn now is like "sid", but is there a "constant" sid that you dont need to change your sources lines?
[12:13] <shemale> sorry
[12:13] <cybercod> desktop motherboards usually have a jumper for bios reset... but i know nothing about tablets
[12:13] <jasin> Thats assuming / is the only partition you have
[12:13] <shemale> I dont want to offend anyone
[12:13] <shemale> yah I dunno either
[12:13] <shemale> for laptops or tablets
[12:14] <jasin> shemale, just relax its not that bad.
[12:14] <computer> thx samuel and gasten
[12:14] <cybercod> you could google the model number and find some stuff..
[12:14] <basvg> um, I just upgraded from dapper to edgy... now I have 2 problems. Whenver I start a terminal I get 'To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".' ... quite annoying. Any idea how to turn that off
[12:14] <jasin> shemale, where you live?
[12:14] <basvg> the other issue is that every time I login I get the mail-notification popup
[12:14] <shemale> Montreal Canada
[12:15] <cybercod> well gentlemen, for those of you who remember my question earlier about reinstalling all packages...i am doing it now...
[12:15] <samuel> basvg: must be in your .bashrc file or perhaps the system bashrc
[12:15] <basvg> samuel: didn't change my .bashrc .... I'll check /etc/
[12:15] <samuel> if you use bash
[12:15] <basvg> of course
[12:16] <samuel> thats only 1 problem though
[12:16] <basvg> the other one is the mail-notificaton popup... if I start gnome-session-properties then I see 'mail-notification --sm-disable' in the startup programs... and I can't seem to remove it
[12:17] <cybercod> you can't disable it?
[12:17] <jasin> shemale, okay, you could try contatcing the Montreal Linux Users Group, maybe they can help you physically in person. There website is: mlug.ca
[12:17] <samuel> basvg: preferences -- sessions
[12:17] <samuel> should be in there
[12:17] <samuel> just get rid of it
[12:17] <basvg> cybercod: right, I've disabled it...lets see if  I still get that nasty popup
[12:18] <samuel> i know feisty fawn now is like "sid", but is there a "constant" sid that you dont need to change your sources lines?
[12:18] <basvg> samuel: that s the same as running gnome-session-properties... trying to just disable it brb
[12:18] <samuel> yes
[12:18] <jasin> shemale, not saying you have to its just a suggestion if you get stuck and run out of options for what to do.
[12:19] <basvg> ok, that helped.... *shrug* pity that I can't remove it but disabling helps so..
[12:19] <shemale> yah okey thank
[12:19] <cybercod> any luck on the cmos battery?
[12:19] <shemale> you
[12:19] <shemale> Ive taken out the main battery
[12:19] <shemale> now I have to find the cmos battery...
[12:20] <cybercod> should be accessible... a small panel maybe?
[12:20] <samuel> ok, time for bed... happy new year!
[12:20] <samuel> :)
[12:20] <cybercod> good night samuel
[12:20] <shemale> yah happy new year everyone
[12:20] <jasin> shemale, just be very nice dont cuss at them or the computer lol
[12:20] <jasin> shemale, happy new year :)
[12:21] <shemale> lol
[12:21] <shemale> but the thing is
[12:21] <shemale> I was having very nice intentions
[12:21] <shemale> installing ubuntu on my tablet
[12:21] <jame1> I'm trying to get a Safecom SWLU-5400 USB wireless adapter to work under ndiswrapper. It will install the driver (as seen in ndisgtk) but it says hardware isn't present - it is. How can I get it to work please?
[12:21] <ddwagnz> :/
[12:21] <cryptic> ubuntu sounds like fun
[12:21] <shemale> so many great reviews...
[12:22] <cybercod> you may be grabbing the wrong file... which file you selecting with ndiswapper?
[12:22] <jame1> cybercod: official INF from manufacturer
[12:22] <cybercod> ubuntu is a blast
[12:22] <shemale> but I just dont know why my bios is messed up
[12:22] <shemale> thats strange...
[12:22] <cybercod> are there more than one file in the driver package?
[12:22] <jame1> cybercod: but I did try to compile the ubuntu zd1211 driver... not sure if it's conflicting but then I disabled it via modprobe -r zd1211
[12:22] <shemale> my tablet found a strange way to celebrate the new year
[12:23] <jame1> cybercod: yes but only for 9x, ME etc - i chose the provided XP one (only three/four files)
[12:23] <cybercod> tried all files individually?
[12:23] <jame1> cybercod: including .sys etc?
[12:23] <jasin> shemale hehe
[12:23] <cybercod> i had one driver that ndiswrapper took something other than inf
[12:23] <shemale> yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[12:23] <shemale> it worked
[12:23] <cybercod> ;D
[12:23] <shemale> I just reinstalled the main battery in
[12:23] <shemale> cybercod
[12:24] <shemale> im gonna marry you
[12:24] <shemale> LOL
[12:24] <jasin> shemale, we gave you the tools, knowledge, and resources to fix your computer .. now all you have to do is fix it :p
[12:24] <cybercod> with a name like shemale... i think I'll have to pass
[12:24] <jame1> cybercod: yeah i tried all three files, it only accepts .inf but maybe i should do it via terminal?
[12:24] <shemale> lollll
[12:24] <shemale> no doubt about that
[12:24] <shemale> I would have do the same
[12:24] <shemale> lol
[12:24] <cryptic> hm i should help in translating some programs to french
[12:24] <cybercod> i doubt it would make a difference jame
[12:25] <kenthomson> HELP: there is a windows partition (FAT32) mounted by default by Ubuntu, and its icon is visible on my desktop, how do i know the mount-point of this partition?
[12:25] <cybercod> its probably mounted in /media
[12:25] <jame1> cybercod: hm then do you think it's a conflicting ubuntu driver - the zd1211 one?
[12:25] <cybercod> you can also find out in Disks
[12:25] <thehotcornet> better ?
[12:25] <jasin> jamel, yes, do it from the terminal, use ndiswrapper -i filenamehere.inf
[12:25] <cybercod> you may need to blacklist like for broadcom... i dunno
[12:25] <basvg> thanks for the help all
[12:26] <jasin> jamel, if the file is on the desktop you will have toi change directory to the desktop cd /home/namehere/Desktop
[12:26] <cybercod> if ubuntu has a driver for it that isn't working, you'd need to blacklist it before using ndiswrapper
[12:26] <jame1> jasin: that's what i did, it says driver is installed but no hardware present - so  i thought maybe blacklisting or stopping a built in driver (zd1211)
[12:26] <thehotcornet> windows is starting
[12:26] <kenthomson> cybercod:  I want to navigate the contents of that partition from the terminal, what should i enter "cd /media/hdb1"? or what?
[12:27] <jame1> jasin: it's ok, i did "-i /home/jamey/wireless/[nameof-inf-file] "
[12:27] <jasin> jamel, ok
[12:27] <kenthomson> cybercod:  ok that works! now what i want to do is create a mount point in my home directory for that "hdb1" partition, how do i do that?
[12:28] <jasin> jamel, you know what i did? I just took the wifi nic out and replaced it with a cheap intel wireless pro 2200, worked like a charm.
[12:28] <cybercod> create the folder first
[12:28] <Rookie-> !webcam
[12:28] <jame1> jasin: once I've added to the blacklist, how do i "refresh"?
[12:28] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:28] <cybercod> then its in fstab...
[12:28] <kenthomson> cybercod:  i have created a folder called "mkdir ~/windowsPartition
[12:28] <thehotcornet> okey Cybercod, and Jasin, thanx again for everything, people like you make me proud of taking part in the linux community ! One of the best things ive done in my life was to swith from windows to linux !
[12:28] <cybercod> i think its sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:28] <jasin> it shoudl be /media/windows
[12:28] <kenthomson> cybercod:  what do i do in fstab?
[12:29] <kenthomson> cybercod:  i simply want to manually mount the windows drive
[12:29] <jasin> thehot, welcome :)
[12:29] <thehotcornet> better than shemale I guess :P
[12:29] <thehotcornet> later guys and good night, I  need to sleep now
[12:29] <cybercod> you'll see the current entry for the fat32 partition just change the path there
[12:30] <cybercod> if you want to manually mount it you can use Disks
[12:30] <cybercod> just make the folder first
[12:30] <jame1> cybercod: once i've added to the blacklist, how do i update/refresh?
[12:30] <jasin> How to mount/unmount Windows partitions (FAT) manually, and allow all users to read/write http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28FAT.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read.2Fwrite
[12:30] <cybercod> if you can't create a folder in /media then hit Alt+F2 then type in gksudo nautilus
[12:31] <kenthomson> cybercod:  i want to manually mount the partition hdb1 to a folder called ~/windowsPartition
[12:31] <jasin> How to mount Windows partitions (FAT) on boot-up, and allow all users to read/write http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28FAT.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read.2Fwrite
[12:31] <cybercod> Kenthomson... get to know the utility called Disks.
[12:31] <kenthomson> jasin:  ok
[12:31] <jasin> :)
[12:31] <Feral_Kid> My apt-get just died, what is the easiest way to re-install, without apt-get obviously? Every time I try to fire up apt-get, I get Segmentation faultsts... 0%
[12:32] <cybercod> come in there jason with the MondoLinks!
[12:32] <jasin> I have to restart the computer, Good Luck everyone. Happy New year!
[12:32] <kenthomson> cybercod:  i thought there was a simplec command like "mount <partition> <mount point>"
[12:32] <kenthomson> jasin: same to you :)
[12:33] <thelinuxguy> Do "man mount" in a terminal to know... :-)
[12:33] <jame1> cybercod: any help please?
[12:33] <cybercod> jame1... you could just reboot... or Ctrl+Alt+Backspace may do it... there's probably a mount command but I don't know it
[12:33] <jame1> cybercod: ok cheers
[12:34] <cybercod> kenthomson... i'm sure there is... i'm just familiar with the gui... i'm learning the command line little by little
[12:34] <cybercod> i'm not a guru in here or anything
[12:34] <june> hey anyone know where i can get the falcon repository builder so that i can install it on a webserver which i don't have root privileges to?  Is it even possible?  I have a folder to which i have read write and execute access though
[12:34] <cybercod> just slightly ahead of the curve
[12:34] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy:  please explain this to me "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000", i want a explanation for "-t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000" ONLY, and the man page is too cryptic :)
[12:35] <jame1> vfat is the partition type, iocharset means it will parse filenames in UTF-8 format, and someone else can explain umask
[12:35] <thelinuxguy> tnx jame1, you beat me to it... :-)
[12:35] <kenthomson> jame1: ok
[12:36] <kenthomson> what is "-t -o"?
[12:36] <kenthomson> and "umask"
[12:36] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy:  jame1: will this work? "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows vfat"?
[12:36] <jame1> "-t vfat" is specifying the type (vfat) and "-o iocharset=utf8,umask=000" is specifying the two parameters, iocharset and umask
[12:37] <jame1> kenthomson: why don
[12:37] <thelinuxguy> see http://www.tech-faq.com/umask.shtml for explanation about umask
[12:37] <jame1> kenthomson: sorry, i meant why dont you just use the provided command?
[12:38] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy: jame1:  So "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows -t vfat"
[12:38] <kenthomson> jame1:  becuase i dont want to input extra parameters like umask whose meaning i dont even know!
[12:38] <thelinuxguy> UMASK is a Unix environment variable which automatically sets file permissions on newly created files.
[12:38] <jame1> kenthomson: it's ok, it is in the official docs, they are safe parameters - they work fine
[12:38] <jame1> plus it mounts read only, so no damage
[12:39] <kenthomson> jame1:  i want read+write
[12:39] <jame1> kenthomson: i believe it's called ntfs-3g
[12:39] <thelinuxguy> hold on to the defaults, they just work fine in most cases
[12:40] <kenthomson> jame1:  thelinuxguy: thank you and have a nice day :) BYE
[12:40] <cybercod> ubuntu can read and write fat32
[12:40] <thelinuxguy> you're welcome ! happy new year ....
[12:40] <jame1> oh sorry, i was thinking ntfs for a second
[12:41] <Boknoy> hello how to view proxy squid?so i could test my proxy squid in winxp browser if its workin or not
[12:41] <cybercod> isn't it like -rw or -w for writing fat32?
[12:42] <jame1> Boknoy: you have to set the machine running the proxy as the proxy server on the winxp machine
[12:42] <thelinuxguy> cybercod, it's -rw
[12:42] <thelinuxguy> -ro for read-only...
[12:42] <Boknoy> jame1: its different box sir
[12:42] <cybercod> linux makes me feel like such a noob
[12:43] <Boknoy> jame1:i just want to test it in windowsxp
[12:43] <thelinuxguy> remember you're first days on windows ? ;-)
[12:43] <jame1> Boknoy: what browser are you using?
[12:43] <computer> but at least one that's on the right tract
[12:43] <Boknoy> jame1:firefox in windowsxp
[12:43] <cybercod> yeah.. i changed an option in the bios and the damn thing never booted up again... but thats not windows... thats just me being stupid
[12:43] <computer> does firefox not work on cnn.com, if ur using linux?
[12:43] <Boknoy> jame1:and IE
[12:43] <cybercod> computer. you got flash installed?
[12:43] <computer> i  meant does mplayer plugin for firefox not work on cnn.com
[12:44] <computer> yes i had flash 9 installed
[12:44] <computer> but it says
[12:44] <computer> no windows media player
[12:44] <computer> no video for u
[12:44] <computer> sucks =)
[12:44] <thelinuxguy> cybercod; select "boot in defaults" in your bios to restore things ?
[12:44] <kenthomson> one more thing, i want to access System>administration>Disks, but the item "disks" is not listed, moreover from edit menus also there is no entry for Disks under Administration, how do i get that utility?
[12:44] <jame1> Boknoy: well in Firefox, open the options dialog and click "Connection Settings". There you can specify a proxy server
[12:44] <cybercod> I've had issues myself there... i'd be interested in hearing the solution to that
[12:44] <computer> but when using konqueror, it says can't detect windows media player version, so videos for u is ok =)
[12:44] <jame1> Boknoy: then you just type in the IP address of the machine running proxy and all requests will be routed through it instead
[12:45] <cybercod> actually it got worse than that... being a complete idiot at the time... i tried to take out the bios chip... broke a pin on it and had to order a new motherboard
[12:45] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy, jame1 cybercod could you please help me with the above question?
[12:45] <thelinuxguy> yeah, cybercod, that does not sound very healthy... :-(
[12:45] <cybercod> I realize now I probably could have bought a replacement bios... but if I had known stuff like that I wouldn't have scewed it up in the first place
[12:45] <cybercod> that was 10 years and many PC's ago
[12:46] <cybercod> kenthomson... shoot
[12:46] <kenthomson> cybercod, one more thing, i want to access System>administration>Disks, but the item "disks" is not listed, moreover from edit menus also there is no entry for Disks under Administration, how do i get that utility?
[12:46] <Keeguon> computer: have you tried the MediaPlayerConnectivity Extension on Firefox maybe it'll work...
[12:46] <thelinuxguy> sorry kenthomson, I'm using strictly kde here... no gnome....
[12:46] <Boknoy> jame1:i dont know my proxy in ubuntu =/
[12:46] <cybercod> Hmm... moment kenthomson
[12:47] <Boknoy> jame1:how to know and view the proxy and port?
[12:47] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy, any special reason for your inclination towards KDE?
[12:47] <jame1> Boknoy: I've PM'ed you
[12:47] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy, i used KDE and found it to be too cluttered, and favouring the ZEN mentality i shifted to GNOME
[12:47] <nobbi> hello and a happy new year
[12:47] <kane77> nobbi, happy new year!! :D
[12:47] <kenthomson> !hi | nobbi
[12:47] <ubotu> nobbi: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:47] <thelinuxguy> kenthomson: yes, I just like KDE better, but that's only a matter of taste, isn't it...
[12:48] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy, and there is some reason for everyone's taste, so my question is what in KDE suits your taste?:)
[12:48] <nobbi> don't know, how long I will be a user of Ubuntu :-(
[12:48] <kane77> nobbi, why?
[12:48] <kenthomson> nobbi, please directly ask your question without resorting to any tricks :)
[12:48] <nobbi> lot of trouble
[12:49] <cybercod> kenthomson... try sudo disks-admin in terminal
[12:49] <kenthomson> nobbi, go ahead and speak it all out in one long post, instead of spreading it over the whole page :)
[12:49] <kenthomson> cybercod, one more thing, i want to access System>administration>Disks, but the item "disks" is not listed, moreover from edit menus also there is no entry for Disks under Administration, how do i get that utility?
[12:49] <nobbi> ok, I 've some probs to run my Wificard
[12:49] <kenthomson> cybercod, no WAIT wrong PASTE :(
[12:49] <Boknoy> jamey3:i dont see any pm here sir
[12:50] <kenthomson> cybercod, ken@ken-ubuntu:~$ sudo disks-admin
[12:50] <kenthomson> sudo: disks-admin: command not found
[12:50] <fotoflo2> hey, does anyone know how to setup remote desktop?
[12:50] <kenthomson> Boknoy, PMs are allowed only from registered NICKs
[12:50] <lilly> i want a shell script to run at boottime. where shd i add the code to?
[12:50] <jamey31> Boknoy: sorry unregistered nick, should be working now
[12:50] <nobbi> I was using SuSE before and had less problems
[12:50] <fotoflo2> kenthomson: no ":"
[12:51] <kenthomson> nobbi, please consider reading this, most probably your question shall get solved, https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/connect-to-internet.html
[12:51] <kenthomson> fotoflo2, i entered "sudo disks-admin" cant you see its a paste?
[12:51] <cybercod> ok.. ken.. one moment... currently logged into my linux box with xfce... so i'm having trouble finding it
[12:52] <kenthomson> cybercod, i can wait :0
[12:52] <fotoflo2> kenthomson: whoops
[12:52] <basvg> hey all.. I just installed banshee, it doesn't seem to see my ipod nano. I can mount the nano manually but then it *still* doesn't see it. Any thoughts ?
[12:52] <fotoflo2> hey, does anyone know how to setup remote desktop?
[12:53] <tomplast> Goodmorning everyone. I have just inserted a new graphics card in my computer. I still have the old one (a s3 pci) in my computer and today I inserted a Geforce MX in the AGP slot. My VGA cable is connected to the Geforce MX but when I try to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it detects the card as a S3 but I want it to detect the Geforce MX (which is now supposed to be my primary graphics card). Can anyone help me getting xserve
[12:53] <lilly> i want a shell script to run at boottime. where shd i add the code to?
[12:53] <nobbi> thanks, I'll try it
[12:53] <basvg> gtkpod seems to work, though
[12:53] <jamey31> tomplast: instead of letting it autodetect the module, select the correct one in the list
[12:53] <basvg> but I'd prefer banshee as it has a much better/nicer interface
[12:53] <phr34ck> Hey, I have downloaded the new version of gparted, and I have installed it, how can I make it launch when I write: sudo gparted? because when I Write that, it launched the default one
[12:54] <nobbi> is there a german community in irc?
[12:54] <nobbi> ????
[12:55] <tomplast> jamey31: So it's as simple as that ^^. I thought so but I wasnt sure
[12:55] <J-_> Probably, http://www.searchirc.com
[12:55] <tomplast> jamey31: Thanks for the help ^^. Take care
[12:55] <kenthomson> !gr
[12:55] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[12:55] <phr34ck> Hey, I have downloaded the new version of gparted, and I have installed it, how can I make it launch when I write: sudo gparted? because when I Write that, it launched the default one
[12:56] <noiesmo> nobbi, #ubuntu-de
[12:56] <lilly> i want a shell script to run at boottime. where shd i add the code to?
[12:56] <kenthomson> tomplast, If you are getting any display when you have connected your monitor to the new display card, that means that X has recognised it
[12:57] <kenthomson> phr34ck, only one version how gparted can exist at a time, so your question is infact bsaeless :)
[12:57] <cybercod> kenthomson try disks-conf
[12:57] <kenthomson> phr34ck, If you used synaptic it would have asked you to remove the older gparted if you wanted to install a new one "conflicting packages"
[12:57] <cybercod> sudo disks-conf
[12:57] <kenthomson> cybercod, command not found
[12:57] <phr34ck> kenthomson, I downloaded a .tar.gz and then I ran the install. so now I have an executable inside the folder, which is gparted.
[12:58] <phr34ck> I go to that folder but I cannot launch it.
[12:58] <cybercod> perhaps you don't have it installed... else it would be in your menu
[12:58] <kenthomson> phr34ck, i advice using synaptic/apt-get
[12:58] <kenthomson> cybercod, command not found
[12:58] <defcon8> I cannot find the ubuntu torrent on the site. Can someone help, please?
[12:58] <kenthomson> phr34ck, can you do this "sudo apt-get remove gparted"
[12:58] <phr34ck> kenthomson, Umm so my download was useless ... *Sighs*
[12:58] <cybercod> try looking for it in the repos
[12:58] <kenthomson> phr34ck, and then "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[12:59] <phr34ck> kenthomson, on what basis does it upgrade it?
[12:59] <defcon8> I do not see an option for a torrent file anywhere
[12:59] <kenthomson> cybercod, i looked for "disks" in the repos but got obscure results
[12:59] <phr34ck> is there an official website ?
[12:59] <thelinuxguy> kenthomson: there doesn't seem to be any package availeble that's providing disks-admin in ubuntu ?
[01:00] <kenthomson> phr34ck, if you do "sudo apt-get upgrade", all your installed software including gparted will be updated so theres no need to install/download a new version
[01:00] <phr34ck> I see, thanks.
[01:00] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy, yes
[01:00] <phr34ck> Well, I downloaded like 80 upgrades yesterday
[01:00] <phr34ck> I just run apt-get update, yes ?
[01:00] <kenthomson> phr34ck, "sudo apt-get update"
[01:00] <lilly> i want a shell script to run at boottime. where shd i add the code to?
[01:01] <defcon8> can someone tell me where the torrent is for ubuntu 6.10, please?
[01:01] <defcon8> simple question
[01:01] <cybercod> kenthomson... it is definately disks-admin... look for it in repos
[01:01] <thelinuxguy> kenthomson: the command seems to be gone, it was there before edgy...
[01:01] <defcon8> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3rnJE0LC7I
[01:01] <defcon8> whoops
[01:01] <kenthomson> lilly please don't paste again and again, if someone is there he shall answer
[01:01] <defcon8> To use BitTorrent, choose a link from above corresponding to a location near you. You will see an option for a torrent file.
[01:01] <defcon8> I do not see a bloody link to a torrent file anywhere
[01:01] <kenthomson> cybercod, no result found in synaptic
[01:01] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy, doesn't work in 6.10
[01:02] <cybercod> you got weird repos?
[01:02] <kenthomson> defcon8, why would you want to torrent it? Download it simply via the site
[01:02] <defcon8> kenthomson, the servers slow
[01:02] <kenthomson> cybercod, no my repos are not broken nor malfunctioning, they are perfectly fine
[01:02] <thelinuxguy> kenthomson: like I said, it used to work in Dapper !
[01:02] <kenthomson> defcon8, its not likey that you shall get a faster speed via torrent
[01:02] <phr34ck> Man .... what the hell is wrong with SUDO ? I'm always getting Timespan something
[01:02] <kenthomson> defcon8, patience is the key, try a different server
[01:03] <kenthomson> phr34ck, if you are using graphical apps try "gksudo <app_name>" as in "gksudo gedit"
[01:03] <phr34ck> kenthomson, what does that do ?
[01:03] <kenthomson> cybercod, thelinuxguy: now where do i get that "disks" thing in System>administration?
[01:04] <kenthomson> phr34ck, thats the same as sudo but for graphical apps it behaves more nicely :)
[01:04] <cybercod> Ken its disks-admin in repos
[01:04] <thelinuxguy> kenthomson, I've found it: install with "sudo apt-get install pysdm"
[01:04] <cybercod> there we go
[01:04] <cybercod> nice
[01:04] <kenthomson> cybercod, there is nothing like "disks-admin" in repos
[01:04] <phr34ck> kenthomson,  I see, thanks.
[01:04] <thelinuxguy> then you will find it under system...Administration.....Storage Device Manager
[01:04] <thelinuxguy> Reply With Quote
[01:04] <cybercod> ok.. sorry for misinforming
[01:05] <phr34ck> same problem man ... timespan too far in the future ...
[01:05] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy, thank you for informing, help is much appreciated can you tell me how did you find it out
[01:06] <thelinuxguy> kenthomson: I searched the ubuntu forums on http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:06] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy, :)
[01:06] <cybercod> i love those forums
[01:06] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy, now that the package is installed what command do i enter at the CLI to get that disks thing?
[01:07] <kenthomson> disks-admin doesn't work
[01:07] <cybercod> i wish I was in gnome but i can't change now
[01:07] <kenthomson> psydm too doesn't work
[01:07] <phr34ck> Hey, I'm trying to install GCC 4.1.1 but I cannot do it since I'm having this error: C compiler does not exist.
[01:07] <phr34ck> What am I suppose to do ?
[01:07] <cybercod> its not in menu ?
[01:07] <crimsun> phr34ck, install build-essential
[01:07] <kenthomson> cybercod, nothing in menu
[01:08] <phr34ck> I already have it.
[01:08] <thelinuxguy> kenthomson; read the whole thread on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=317742&highlight=disks-admin+in+edgy
[01:08] <crimsun> phr34ck, if you do, then ``gcc -v'' should work fine
[01:08] <fotoflo2> what is remote desktop called in ubuntu
[01:08] <fotoflo2> ?
[01:08] <kenthomson> crimsun, could you help me? I am on GNOME and am trying to get System>administration>Disks, but that entry doesn't exist. nor is it on edit-menu>Administration, so i installed package "psydm" now how do i run that Disks package?
[01:08] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy, let me do that
[01:08] <phr34ck> crimsun, the thing is that I'm launching the configure file found inside the folder.
[01:09] <crimsun> kenthomson, I have no idea what you're referring to (no experience w/ those)
[01:09] <phr34ck> so it checks and everything, and then it stops on C compiler./
[01:09] <cybercod> phr34ck... perhaps the configuration script creates another executable?
[01:09] <crimsun> phr34ck, what are you trying to compile?
[01:09] <phr34ck> it does locate gcc, but it says that the compiler cannot process C or something
[01:09] <phr34ck> GCC 4.1.1
[01:09] <thelinuxguy> kenthomson; it's possible that you need to logout - and login - to see the changes in the gnome menu...
[01:09] <euan> Hi, I've manually stuffed up my X setup.  Can someone tell me which script the installer runs so  I can invoke that?  Seems the script's cleverer than me :-)
[01:10] <phr34ck> I don't know what the configure file is doing.
[01:10] <crimsun> phr34ck, err, why? gcc 4.1.1 is included with ubuntu.
[01:10] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy, worked like a charm! Thank you, and one more thing this "psydm" thingy is not the same as "System>admin>Disks" But it shall work well too
[01:10] <kenthomson> Have a nice day! happy UBUNT-ing :) :) :)
[01:10] <phr34ck> crimsun, how can I know that?
[01:10] <phr34ck> feeling*
[01:11] <cybercod> I'm not good at building
[01:11] <crimsun> phr34ck, what's the output from gcc -v ?
[01:11] <cybercod> ... yet
[01:11] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy, sorry for the misinformation its the same thing :)
[01:11] <thelinuxguy> kenthomson; glad I could help ! Happy New Year ! :-)
[01:11] <phr34ck> hold on
[01:12] <euan> I'm stuck with a 640x480 desktop, that's the max available to me.  Before I stuffed it up I could go as high as 1600x1200 (not that my eyes could)
[01:12] <thelinuxguy> kenthomson: "Cheers" ! :-)
[01:13] <phr34ck> C compiler cannot create executables.
[01:13] <phr34ck> gcc C compiler does not work.
[01:13] <crimsun> phr34ck, that should not be the output from ``gcc -v''
[01:14] <phr34ck> okay, it gave me like 40 lines
[01:14] <kenthomson> euan, Do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and follow the simple instructions, sticking to the defaults as much as possible. IN the driver section select "nv" if you have nvidia card or VESA if you dont know, in the resolutions thing put a * by clicking space in the appropriate resolutions in that wizard
[01:14] <phr34ck> what are you looking for ?
[01:14] <euan> Thanks kenthomson, I'll try that.
[01:14] <crimsun> phr34ck, the very last (bottom) line
[01:15] <J-_> euan: Did you turn on your computer before you plugged your monitor in? Same thing happened, I didn't have my monitor plugged in and I turned on computer, and the re. was low with no option to make bigger, so I restarted and it worked like normal. I had xubuntu installed on a dapper LAMP server.
[01:15] <kenthomson> euan, after that restart X by pressing "ctrl-alt-backspace" or simple reboot the computer
[01:15] <phr34ck> GCC version 4.0.3
[01:15] <crimsun> phr34ck, are you using dapper?
[01:16] <kenthomson> J-_, nice insight :)
[01:16] <koyo001> ok problem
[01:17] <J-_> Hope that works, heh.
[01:17] <koyo001> trying to run from the terminal window command make
[01:17] <phr34ck> crimsun,  yes
[01:17] <koyo001> doent work
[01:17] <J-_> koyo001: do you have build essentials installed?
[01:17] <crimsun> phr34ck, and can't dist-upgrade to edgy?
[01:18] <koyo001> tells me command not found
[01:18] <kane77> koyo001, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:18] <kenthomson> koyo001, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[01:18] <phr34ck> crimsun,  what ?
[01:18] <kenthomson> kane77, :)
[01:18] <crimsun> phr34ck, dapper doesn't have 4.1.1, but edgy does.
[01:18] <kane77> kenthomson, hh
[01:18] <J-_> whoops, no 's' =D
[01:18] <koyo001> ok will try that
[01:18] <kane77> kenthomson, funny :D
[01:18] <LinTux> how do I install the XFCE desktop in terminal
[01:18] <phr34ck> crimsun,  it's available on their website.
[01:18] <Gosha> !svn
[01:18] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[01:19] <phr34ck> Why I cannot use it ?
[01:19] <kane77> koyo001, and sometimes you need to run ./configure
[01:19] <crimsun> phr34ck, I'm not talking about upstream; I'm talking about Ubuntu.
[01:19] <kane77> LinTux, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[01:19] <phr34ck> crimsun,  I have no idea what you're talking about man.
[01:19] <koyo001> configure hyeon
[01:19] <koyo001> ???
[01:20] <crimsun> phr34ck, obviously if you want to bootstrap gcc 4.1.1, you're free to do so. Just make sure your toolchain's configured properly first, which means you need a working compiler, binutils, and l-k-h
[01:20] <kane77> koyo001, what are you trying to install?
[01:20] <crimsun> phr34ck, if your compiler doesn't work, --reinstall gcc and cpp
[01:20] <koyo001> ndiswrapper
[01:21] <LinTux> kane77: many thanks m8, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!
[01:21] <koyo001> need to run a windows driver
[01:21] <crimsun> phr34ck, and make very sure that the toolchain components are properly installed (binutils, gcc, libc6-dev, linux-kernel-headers)
[01:21] <J-_> eww
[01:21] <phr34ck> crimsun,  since gcc 4.0.3 is installed .. how can I write C++ program.
[01:21] <phr34ck> crimsun,  I think I have them.
[01:21] <kane77> LinTux, happy new year to you too... youre welcome...
[01:21] <phr34ck> The thing is that everything is soo messed up now. I'm totally new and installing packages here and there.
[01:21] <crimsun> phr34ck, you don't need gcc-4.1.1 to write C++ programs
[01:21] <phr34ck> no idea what I'm doing.
[01:22] <kane77> koyo001, isn't ndiswrapper available from repositories via apt-get??
[01:22] <crimsun> phr34ck, all you needed to compile C++ programs is 'build-essential'
[01:22] <phr34ck> how can I organise my packages.
[01:22] <phr34ck> ?
[01:22] <koyo001> humm not sure
[01:22] <crimsun> phr34ck, what in the world are you attempting to do?
[01:22] <cybercod> koyo      read  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Windows_Wireless_Drivers_.28Ndiswrapper.29
[01:22] <koyo001> i used gz
[01:22] <Menisk> How can I install only the base system of 6.06?
[01:23] <Menisk> I don't have the alternate install.
[01:23] <phr34ck> crimsun,  I'm getting familiar with Linux ;p
[01:23] <phr34ck> hey, I just ran ./configure and it worked.
[01:23] <phr34ck> What's next ?
[01:23] <koyo001> thanks cybercod
[01:23] <kenthomson> !shockwave
[01:23] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[01:23] <koyo001> still with the same problem
[01:23] <crimsun> phr34ck, you still haven't stated what you're attempting to do...
[01:23] <kenthomson> Anyone having SHOCKWAVE running under wine on Ubuntu? I got some problems
[01:23] <cybercod> koyo.. describe... i think i missed it
[01:23] <kane77> koyo001, I'm not sure... there is ndisgtk, a gtk frontend... you might try to install that (sudo apt-get install ndisgtk)
[01:24] <phr34ck> I wanted to have a decent C++ compiler. So I downloaded gcc and I'm here to see how to install it. I had no idea that there is a built in compiler
[01:24] <kane77> brb
[01:24] <cybercod> there are dependent packages with the ndis packages... are you installing from synaptic?
[01:24] <crimsun> phr34ck, the C++ compiler is g++
[01:25] <phr34ck> yeah, I figured ..
[01:25] <phr34ck> So now I ran the configure script succefully, now what?
[01:25] <Menisk> How can I install only the base system of 6.06?
[01:25] <Menisk>  I don't have the alternate install.
[01:25] <phr34ck> How do I make gcc 4.1.1 work ??
[01:25] <cybercod> Menisk.  base system?  normal install?
[01:26] <phr34ck> meh, gcc is ?
[01:26] <crimsun> phr34ck, you -already- have a working C++ compiler installed
[01:26] <kenthomson> !alternate
[01:26] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[01:26] <crimsun> gcc is the C compiler
[01:26] <phr34ck> crimsun,  okay how to I work with it?
[01:26] <phr34ck> where is it ?
[01:26] <kakalto> I boot ubuntu in CLI-only, and the screensaver (blank screen) goes on every 10 minutes or so, how can I either change the time for this, or turn it off?
[01:26] <crimsun> phr34ck, g++
[01:26] <Menisk> cybercod, I only want the base system for a server, no window manager etc.
[01:27] <kenthomson> kakalto, there is some command to kill the gnome-screensaver
[01:27] <crimsun> Menisk, install ubuntu-minimal
[01:27] <phr34ck> kool
[01:27] <phr34ck> is it a high end compiler?
[01:27] <phr34ck> or just a "built in" one ?
[01:27] <kakalto> kenthomson: does gnome-screensaver even run when there's no X?
[01:27] <crimsun> phr34ck, what do you mean by "high end"?
[01:28] <Siv0x> !nvidia
[01:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:28] <kenthomson> kakakoka, interesting question, without x there is no GNOME without GNOME there is no gnome-screensaver, so what you are seeing is not the screen-saver unless it is running in backgroun
[01:28] <kitsune1> hi all
[01:28] <Menisk> crimsun, How do I do that from the live CD, or do I need alternate install?
[01:28] <kitsune1> happy new year !
[01:28] <crimsun> phr34ck, it's part of all Ubuntu installs
[01:28] <phr34ck> crimsun,  I mean a very decent C++ compiler
[01:28] <kenthomson> kakakoka, in the text-mode try alt-ctrl-f7, and see whether you go to a X-login session, if yes, than X is running in background
[01:29] <crimsun> phr34ck, GCC is very good
[01:29] <nn>           collisions:23034 txqueuelen:1000
[01:29] <crimsun> phr34ck, it's not shoddy software if that's what you're asking
[01:29] <kenthomson> kakakoka, if yes can kill x by "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[01:29] <nn> Anyone got an rt2500 doing that too?
[01:29] <kitsune1> can anyone help me?
[01:29] <phr34ck> crimsun,  but you said that GCC is not a C++ compiler?
[01:29] <crimsun> Menasim1, it's part of all Ubuntu installs
[01:29] <phr34ck> g++ is the same as gcc ?
[01:29] <nn> phr34ck: g++ is
[01:29] <DarthLappy> kitsune1: With?
[01:29] <kenthomson> !ask | kitsune1
[01:29] <ubotu> kitsune1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:29] <nn> phr34ck: g++ is a part of gcc
[01:29] <kakalto> kenthomson: do you even know what CLI means?
[01:29] <crimsun> phr34ck, no, gcc != g++ just as C != C++
[01:29] <kakalto> I run ubuntu-minimal
[01:29] <phr34ck> umm
[01:29] <nn> phr34ck: GCC is the GNU Compiler Collection
[01:29] <kenthomson> kakakoka, ofcourse
[01:30] <phr34ck> I see, so I downloaded the hole package, not just the C++ compiler.
[01:30] <kitsune1> well i took a pic ture of wat happens when i run ubuntu can u please ahve a look at it
[01:30] <kenthomson> kitsune1, link it
[01:30] <phr34ck> that's good, since I'm going to be using Java as well.
[01:30] <nn> If g++ is installed, the gcc frontend will invoke 'g++' on .cc, .cpp, and .c++ files
[01:30] <kakalto> kenthomson: then why are you telling me how to kill gnomescreensaver (I assume runs on X), and how to kill X... when I don't run X?
[01:30] <phr34ck> How can I take advantage of it >?
[01:30] <kitsune1> 1 sec ill upload
[01:30] <nn> phr34ck: that's gcj
[01:30] <phr34ck> it's not included in the GCC ?
[01:30] <kenthomson> kakakoka, but you are telling me that a screen save is running in the background
[01:30] <SubMOA> hello! What does "&lt;3" mean?
[01:30] <nn> phr34ck: it's part of gcc, but a seperate package
[01:30] <nn> SubMOA: <3
[01:30] <kenthomson> kakakoka, if there is a screensaver running than X is definitely running the background
[01:31] <nn> SubMOA: a heart
[01:31] <phr34ck> I see.
[01:31] <cybercod> kakalto... can you find the process ID?
[01:31] <kakalto> kenthomson: I don't run X!
[01:31] <SubMOA> say what?
[01:31] <SubMOA> :O)
[01:31] <kenthomson> kakakoka, If not, than you shouldn't HAVE A SCREENSAVER!!!
[01:31] <nn> SubMOA: &lt; is an HTML entity for the character '<' (less than)
[01:31] <phr34ck> woohoo, I just made my first C++ on Ubuntu ...
[01:31] <nn> SubMOA: so &lt;3 is <3 in HTML :)
[01:31] <kenthomson> phr34ck, way to go!
[01:31] <SubMOA> nn oOo, thank you so much.  Wow, you rock!
[01:31] <phr34ck> Why do I have to write this : ./testing ? why not just testing ?
[01:31] <nn> SubMOA: :)
[01:31] <nn> phr34ck: it's a safety feature
[01:32] <kenthomson> Goodbye all! and have a nice day! HAPPY UBUNT-ing :)
[01:32] <phr34ck> nn, what does it mean ?
[01:32] <SubMOA> is ASCII an "entity" for text?
[01:32] <DarthLappy> phr34ck: "testing" will try and execute it from $PATh
[01:32] <kakalto> kenthomson: it's not a conventional screensaver... the screen blanks after 10 minutes or so. This is the "screensaver" I wish to either change the time for, or remove completely.
[01:32] <nn> phr34ck: ./whatever means run 'whatever' from the current directory (.)
[01:32] <koyo001> helo
[01:32] <phr34ck> nn,  I see.
[01:32] <cybercod> oh... thats power management then kakalto... i think
[01:32] <kakalto> cybercod: I'm not sure what the program is exactly, so I don't know how to find the pid
[01:32] <kitsune1> ok
[01:32] <kitsune1> heres one
[01:32] <kitsune1> http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00184xw2.jpg
[01:32] <nn> phr34ck: if you have '.' in your $PATH (DANGEROUS) someone could put a nasty program in the directory (which could compromise your machine)
[01:32] <phr34ck> Can't I use the GCC that I downloaded? It was a waste of time ...
[01:32] <kitsune1> and another
[01:32] <kitsune1> http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00186ly1.jpg
[01:32] <nn> phr34ck: and it would be ran instead of the program you want
[01:33] <nn> SubMOA: no
[01:33] <phr34ck> nn,  thanks.
[01:33] <nn> SubMOA: since < and > are part of HTML markup, they can't be directly used
[01:33] <n1gke> Good morning everyone.
[01:33] <phr34ck> These are Linux in general, and not just Ubuntu, yes >?
[01:33] <nn> SubMOA: instead &lt; and &gt; (and several others) exist for this purpose
[01:33] <nn> phr34ck: yes.
[01:33] <nn> phr34ck: it's a safety feature
[01:33] <SubMOA> ohh, I understand!
[01:33] <SubMOA> thank you!
[01:34] <kenthomson_> a
[01:34] <phr34ck> where I can find Java interpreter ?
[01:34] <nn> phr34ck: so that if you really want to run something from the current directory, you have to knowingly do so by say './whatever' (run whatever from current directory (.)
[01:34] <nn> SubMOA: np
[01:34] <kenthomson_> !java | phr34ck
[01:34] <ubotu> phr34ck: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:34] <phr34ck> nn,  I understand mate.
[01:35] <nn> phr34ck: you probably want jre, unless doing java development, then jdk might be better bet for you
[01:35] <kakalto> so, does anyone know how to stop the screen blanking after 10 minutes or so on ubuntu-minimal, in CLI-only, no X?
[01:35] <phr34ck> I need jdk, yes
[01:35] <nn> kakalto: that's APM
[01:35] <phr34ck> JDK requires JRE anyway
[01:35] <cybercod> kakalto.. hold a moment.. i think i got something
[01:35] <cybercod> reading
[01:35] <nn> mount -o remount,rw /
[01:35] <phr34ck> but I do java programs, so I need the development kit.
[01:35] <nn> oops
[01:35] <kakalto> nn: ahk, cool... any ideas how to mess with it?
[01:35] <koyo001> ok
[01:35] <kakalto> cybercod: thanks, sounds good
[01:35] <koyo001> cant install ndiswrapper
[01:36] <koyo001> not working
[01:36] <nn> kakalto: edit /etc/console-tools/config
[01:36] <koyo001> trying real hard here
[01:36] <nn> kakalto: find 'BLANK_TIME'
[01:36] <koyo001> nothing working
[01:36] <kitsune1> kenthomson : u know whats wrong with it?
[01:37] <kakalto> nn: thanks very much for your help :
[01:37] <kakalto> *   :-)
[01:37] <php-freak> can someone tell me how i can download all ftp files from clie?
[01:37] <php-freak> from my server
[01:37] <nn> COMMITed 74819904 rows, 0 errors, 58 SLOW, 7 optimize misses
[01:37] <nn> hrmm
[01:37] <php-freak> i tried wget, but it only downloads like 3 files, then quites
[01:37] <casemods> does anyone speak python?
[01:37] <kakalto> cybercod: nn pointed out the file to edit, thanks
[01:37] <nn> 74 million rows? :)
[01:37] <casemods> i have a little problem
[01:37] <nn> php-freak: wget -c -m -np ftp://your-url
[01:38] <kakalto> kenthomson_: thankyou for being the most ignorant person I found on this channel.
[01:38] <php-freak> whats the -c -np mean?
[01:38] <cybercod> cool... i wasn't even close
[01:38] <php-freak> what about -r?
[01:38] <jmspeex> Is there any way (using Edgy) to tell beagle to stop filling my home directory with gigabytes worth of logs?
[01:38] <nn> php-freak: -c is continue, you can really ommit it, -np means don't go up the directory tree, only down
[01:38] <php-freak> only downloaded like 3 files, then quit
[01:38] <cybercod> i was looking at "acpi -h"
[01:39] <php-freak> it only downloaded a index.html file, and nothing else????????????????
[01:39] <php-freak> any one here know how to donwload ftp files cli?
[01:39] <php-freak> any one here know how to donwload ftp files cli?
[01:39] <kitsune1> can anyone please tell me why i get this on my monitor
[01:39] <kitsune1> http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00184xw2.jpg
[01:39] <kitsune1> http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00186ly1.jpg
[01:39] <nn>      Thermal 1: ok, 105.8 degrees F
[01:40] <nn> php-freak: did you put ftp:// on the url?
[01:40] <php-freak> well duh
[01:40] <php-freak>  wget -R -C -M -NP ftp://test:test@url.com:21
[01:40] <php-freak> i trried that
[01:40] <nn> why caps?
[01:41] <nn> -m -np
[01:41] <php-freak> wget -R ftp://blah:blah@blah.com:21
[01:41] <php-freak> I tried small caps too
[01:41] <nn> php-freak: just -m -np should be fine
[01:41] <php-freak> I tried wget -R -c -m -np
[01:41] <php-freak> done tried it
[01:41] <php-freak> but ill try it again
[01:41] <nn> if not, your ftp sever is on crack, MS FTP by chance?
[01:41] <nn> php-freak: Don't put the -r
[01:42] <php-freak> for crying out loud its download this time
[01:42] <php-freak> hehe
[01:42] <php-freak> i need to read a book no this stuff
[01:42] <slacker_nl> hello
[01:42] <php-freak> whats the -m -np mean again?
[01:42] <slacker_nl> !mount
[01:42] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:42] <cybercod> kitsune1 ... i'm thinking incompatible graphics driver
[01:42] <DarthLappy> php-freak: man wget :D
[01:42] <nn> -m is mirror, it makes a nice directory tree and gets all files, -np prevents going back up the directory tree
[01:42] <slacker_nl> !diskmounter
[01:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[01:43] <slacker_nl> !fstab
[01:43] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:43] <slacker_nl> !removable media
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about removable media - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <nn> 793318 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 811562110 2007-01-01 07:16 sql-commit.log
[01:43] <nn> hah.. 793mb log file
[01:43] <slacker_nl> !automount
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <slacker_nl> grrr
[01:44] <casemods> just type /quit whoever, and it'll quit them from irc
[01:45] <cybercod> kitsune1... still there?
[01:46] <elkbuntu> casemods, that sort of crap is not welcome here
[01:46] <jwise> happy new year
[01:46] <nn> holy crapmonkey
[01:46] <casemods> sorrry
[01:47] <nn> i've got over 15 million pending emails
[01:47] <cybercod> holy moly
[01:47] <nn> stupid spam
[01:47] <cybercod> i thought my 800 were bad
[01:47] <cybercod> how long does it take to build up that far?
[01:47] <nn> cybercod: oh, out of that, maybe 200,000 will make it past spam filters
[01:47] <nn> cybercod: about a day
[01:47] <slacker_nl> !help
[01:47] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:48] <unfun> How do I change from gnome to KDE ?
[01:48] <Sumit> Hi, wats happening room
[01:48] <cybercod> install package "kubuntu-desktop" in synaptic
[01:48] <HymnToLife> unfun, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:48] <Sumit> can someone help me with Bluetoothing
[01:48] <cybercod> then select kde session before logging in
[01:49] <kenthomson_> !nvidia
[01:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:49] <vanberge> so... what is the key to enable syntax highligting in vi ?
[01:50] <fotoflo_> Hey All, Ive got a FAT32 partition mounted on my ubuntu system, but its read only - how do i make it read-write?
[01:50] <Sumit> like how can I pair with my fone, or search for services on it, or just transfer files to it??
[01:50] <slacker_nl> set vanberge echo "syntax enable" >> ~/.vimrc
[01:50] <kitsune1> yes
[01:50] <jean-no> bonne anne 2007
[01:50] <slacker_nl> s/set //
[01:50] <cybercod> fotoflo    sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:50] <HymnToLife> !gksudo | cybercod
[01:50] <ubotu> cybercod: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[01:50] <Rookie-> syntax on
[01:50] <cybercod> fotoflo   find entry for fat32 partition... change -ro to -rw
[01:51] <vanberge> slacker_nl,  well, if i editedt /etc/vim/vimrc and uncommented taht line shouldn't that do the trick?
[01:51] <fotoflo_> err there is no entry
[01:51] <kitsune1> ok but how can i change it beacuse i can see any thing
[01:51] <fotoflo_> i mounted it manually
[01:51] <kenthomson_> Has anyone run SHOCKWAVE through WINE, under Ubuntu? I need some help.
[01:51] <slacker_nl> vanberge: believe so, its the globale vimrc
[01:51] <fotoflo_> haven't rebooted yet...
[01:51] <nn> anyone got a fine t
[01:51] <kitsune1> and my mouse properly
[01:51] <fildo> !fonts
[01:51] <slacker_nl> so thats for every user
[01:51] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:51] <nn> anyone got a fine tip soldering iron? :)
[01:51] <NineTeen67Come1> Grrr . anyone have a good simple e-mail server setup how to? (All the ones I can find are super secure -that's fine, but I want it working then I'll lock it down-) ..
[01:51] <fotoflo_> how do i had it to my fstab?
[01:51] <siv0x> !java > siv0x
[01:51] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: i run postfix
[01:51] <vanberge> slacker_nl, well, i did that, but no syntax highlighting...  :-(
[01:52] <cybercod> wait a moment foto.. i'll find you a link
[01:52] <fotofo> k cool
[01:52] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: postfix .. that sends the mail for you? (smtp) ..
[01:52] <vanberge> slacker_nl, better yet... i try to 'vim filename.php' and i get  "syntax on, this command is not valid'
[01:52] <kenthomson> Can someone help me setup SHOCKWAVE?
[01:52] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: It can be configured in many roles, local only, full internet site, etc
[01:52] <kitsune1> cybercod : what should i do coz i cant move the mouse very gd, how can i change the drivers, at the moment me using windows
[01:52] <NineTeen67Come1> nn:  I tried to follow this how-to and my gawed . it got ugly .. http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[01:52] <cybercod> foto http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28FAT.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read.2Fwrite
[01:52] <slacker_nl> vanberge: in the /etc/vim/vimrc its callesd syntax on
[01:53] <kenthomson> no-one? :(
[01:53] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: I just need to mainly send mail out to people that want to register, have server questions and the like.. if need be I can write them back on my regular e-mail ..
[01:53] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: my postfix configs have always been quick and easy
[01:53] <fotofo> checking it out
[01:53] <fotofo> thanks
[01:53] <slacker_nl> vanberge: grep -i syntax /etc/vim/vimrc , you will see the line you need to change
[01:53] <cybercod> kitsume1 what is your graphics card?
[01:54] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: can I just aptitude install postfix .. and start there? .. I know it asks me internet smart server etc etc .. I don't know really which to select .. it's a web server .. so internet I assume?
[01:54] <cybercod> no problem
[01:54] <nn> you're an Internet host
[01:54] <kitsune1> cybercod : the screens i sent is from 6.06, when i try and run 6.10 it goes into a black screen and says video video not avalible
[01:54] <kitsune1> cybercod :  its a nvidia xfx geforce 6600 gt 256mb
[01:54] <NineTeen67Come1> nn:  it is a web server ..
[01:54] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: yea, and it'll be getting incoming mail, correct?
[01:54] <fotofo> cybercod, errr its not loading
[01:55] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: Incomming would be a bonus .. sending is important because plone sends them their passwd ..
[01:55] <cybercod> kitsume .. you're on a different pc right?
[01:55] <fotofo> that earthquake in taiwan is really starting to piss me off
[01:55] <kenthomson> I am running AMD Athlon 2600 XP+, should i install kernel linux-image-386?
[01:55] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: Then pick internet host, follow the settings. all done
[01:55] <kitsune1> cybercod : no same pc in windows
[01:55] <cybercod> foto.. one moment
[01:55] <nn> fotofo: you? My cheap hw source is on hold
[01:55] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: I'll give 'er a try .. thanks for the confidance booster .. heheheh
[01:55] <nn> fotofo: meaning im having to wait for my damn 5$ mobos and CPUs
[01:56] <nn> which puts my projects on hold bc ya. i'm poor :)
[01:56] <cybercod> foto... try  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy then find FAT on the page
[01:56] <cbx33> hi all
[01:56] <fotofo> nn: well at least you have usable internet
[01:56] <kitsune1> ?
[01:56] <cybercod> Kitsume... what is your graphics card?  did i miss you saying ?
[01:56] <fotofo> nn: i can buy for you in beijing and fedex if you need it NOW :-)
[01:56] <vanberge> slacker_nl, it is not working.  i see the line and i un-commented it... but i get no syntax color
[01:57] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: shoot .. looks like it's already installed .. by chance you know how to re-institute the settings? ..
[01:57] <vanberge> slacker_nl, do i have to run something other than vim?
[01:57] <kitsune1> cybercod :  ol yes its a nvidia xfx geforce 6600 gt 256mb
[01:57] <vanberge> when i uncomment taht line it says syntax on is not a valid command
[01:57] <fotofo> i got a NIC and a soundboard yesterday for $7
[01:57] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[01:57] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: awesome thanks .. I always forget avout dpkg-stuff ..
[01:57] <cybercod> Kitsume... one moment... I shall look
[01:57] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: :)
[01:58] <kitsune1> thanks alot
[01:58] <kitsune1> :)
[01:58] <slacker_nl> vanberge: hold on letme give it a try
[01:59] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: it only gives me No config / Internet Site / Internet with smarthost / Satellite system and local only .. internet site?
[01:59] <gnufied> I am having trouble configuring my Nvidia 6200 TurboCache GPU and LCD monitor.
[01:59] <gnufied> trouble is, i don't have horizontal and vertical sync rates range of my monitor
[01:59] <slacker_nl> vanberge: works for me...
[01:59] <slacker_nl> vanberge: could you put your /etc/vim/vimrc in a pastebin (/topic)
[02:00] <NineTeen67Come1> gnufied: you should be able to find them via google .. I found them for my "Green House" brand monitor .. (purchased here in Japan so I couldn't read the manual) ..
[02:00] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: internet site
[02:00] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: rodger .. thank you ..
[02:00] <fotofo> cybercod, how do i refresh my fstab to test if it worked?
[02:00] <vanberge> slacker_nl, yeah hold on just a sec
[02:01] <nn> fotofo: if it's already mounted, mount -o remount,rw /mountpoint
[02:01] <nn> fotofo: else mount -a
[02:01] <fotofo> nn: whats the rw?
[02:01] <nn> fotofo: read-write
[02:01] <fotofo> err nevermind
[02:01] <fotofo> der
[02:01] <fotofo> sorry
[02:02] <nn> it's 0800 (at least EST) understandable
[02:02] <nn> i'm on my second week awake :)
[02:02] <nn> i'd hardly count the brief naps i've taken in the last 10 days as sleep
[02:02] <drbreen> is there an ubuntu DEB package for OLPC sugar interface ?
[02:02] <nn> but much code must be done
[02:02] <cybercod> foto you can just reboot
[02:02] <nn> drbreen: apt-cache search olp|sort|less
[02:02] <vanberge> slacker_nl,   http://pastebin.com/848910
[02:02] <nn> cybercod: eww
[02:02] <fotofo> its 9:00 pm BST
[02:02] <vanberge> slacker_nl, ty for looking at this with me
[02:03] <nn> cybercod: Please do not use that word in my presence
[02:03] <drbreen> nn: of course there is nothing official
[02:03] <drbreen> nn: i can use apt-cache -_-
[02:03] <nn> drbreen: sorry, no idea, asked google?
[02:03] <drbreen> nn: points me only to source ?
[02:03] <nn> drbreen: no, it gives names of packages available
[02:03] <cybercod> kitsume... it looks like you'll need to install a graphics drivers for your card.
[02:03] <nn> drbreen: you can use apt-cache show packagename to see more info on a pacakge
[02:04] <cybercod> nn... i'm no god here... i'm pretty new myself... i came in here to ask a question and have been in here several hours answering others as best as i can
[02:04] <slacker_nl> vanberge: *click*
[02:04] <fotofo> nn: fotoflo@fotoflo-desktop:/dev$ sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda1
[02:04] <fotofo> mount: /media/windows not mounted already, or bad option
[02:05] <fotofo> its already mounted
[02:05] <drbreen> nn: i am searching for "olpc sugar deb download ubuntu" and get no useful results
[02:05] <nn> fotofo: did you use -o remount,rw ?
[02:05] <drbreen> nn: what have you searched for ?
[02:05] <nn> ahh strange
[02:05] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: I'm really sorry to bug you .. but do you know a good how-to on "using" postfix? It's all hooked up and I think I got everything entered correctly (a couple things didn't look familiar but I think I'll know the error when I see it) ..
[02:05] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: http://www.tldp.org should have something good, probably in the mini-howto's
[02:05] <slacker_nl> vanberge: looks good to me
[02:05] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: and it's quite alright
[02:05] <fotofo> fotoflo@fotoflo-desktop:/dev$ sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda1
[02:06] <HymnToLife> NineTeen67Come1, there is one in the howtos section in the !forums
[02:06] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: thanks much ..
[02:06] <kenthomson> I used open-source "nv" drivers and got 800x600 @ 85HZ, and when i switched to "nvidia" drivers i am getting 800x600 only at 85HZ, can someone please help? I have edited /etcX11/xorg.conf and put in the correct vertical/horizontal refresh rates of my monitor in the appropriate section, what else do i need to do to get 800x600@85hz, with proprietary-nvidia drivers?
[02:06] <NineTeen67Come1> you too HymnToLife ..
[02:06] <fotofo> nn: yeah
[02:06] <kitsune1> cybercod : ok but how can i do this because i need to navigate in linux and stuff but i cant coz of the screen and the mouse stops moving after couple of minutes
[02:06] <kenthomson> *now i am getting 800x600 only at 75hz
[02:06] <nn> fotofo: ahh not mounted already?
[02:07] <slacker_nl> vanberge: could you open a file (.pl, .zsh, .sh, anything that needs syntax highlighting)
[02:07] <cybercod> you'll need to find and print the instructions for doing it in the command line... and you can press Ctrl+alt+F5 to get command line access
[02:07] <fotofo> mounted
[02:07] <fotofo> listening to an MP3 from it
[02:08] <fotofo> nn: i think i need to put "vfat" in there,
[02:08] <cybercod> glad to hear it fotofo
[02:08] <fotofo> not sure of the syntax
[02:08] <fotofo> cybercod, but i cant write to the disk
[02:08] <kitsune1> ok i have no got ubuntu install its the live cd i trying to run first so i can install it
[02:08] <cybercod> kitsume  you'll need to find and print the instructions for doing it in the command line... and you can press Ctrl+alt+F5 to get command line access
[02:08] <vanberge> slacker_nl, yes
[02:08] <slacker_nl> fotofo: vfat is correct
[02:09] <fotofo> slacker_nl, reading man... where's it go?
[02:09] <kitsune1> were do i put the drivers so then i can access them
[02:09] <vanberge> slacker_nl, i have a php file open
[02:09] <nn> fotofo: /dev/whatever /media/windows vfat auto 0 0
[02:09] <nn> or similar
[02:09] <cybercod> thats one I don't know... I'd try to get hands on alternate disk, does anyone know a way to install from command line on live CD?
[02:09] <slacker_nl> vanberge: in vi, now do :set syntax
[02:09] <gnufied> NineTeen67Come1: I have the manual. its a viewsonic monitor, but bloddy they haven't given sync rates.
[02:09] <slacker_nl> fotofo: what nn says
[02:09] <nn> crazy but i remember all these things off the top of my head :P
[02:10] <vanberge> slacker_nl, E519:  Option not supported: syntax
[02:10] <slacker_nl> fotofo: or dou it manually: mount -t vfat /dev/device /mount/point
[02:10] <fotofo> sudo mount -o remount, rw /dev/hda1    where's the vfat go?
[02:10] <NineTeen67Come1> gnufied: hum .. usually back in the back there are specs .. not only physical dimention, but input voltages, etc etc ..
[02:10] <nn> then again, i've been using linux for almost 10 years, *nix for hmm 13
[02:10] <slacker_nl> vanberge: are you using vim or vi?
[02:10] <kitsune1> cybercod : which drivers should i try
[02:10] <peija-kas> GMail Hacked: Visit ANY Website, and Your Whole Contact List Can be Stolen  http://epodaeta.notlong.com/  Works in Firefox, Opera, and IE. This link does not link directly to the exploit for obvious reasons.
[02:10] <nn> fotofo: no space between the ,rw
[02:11] <fotofo> nn: only worked with the space
[02:11] <nn> fotofo: thats incorrect then
[02:11] <nn> fotofo: if unmounted, mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[02:11] <slacker_nl> vanberge: :set syntax in vim should return syntax=php
[02:12] <nn> mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda1 (or /media/windows) would turn on writing (and remount,ro turn it off)
[02:12] <nn> i do this on my /etc :)
[02:12] <cybercod> I'd give the proprietary Nvidia drivers a try
[02:12] <nn> i boot up everything but /home is read-only (/tmp, /var/{lock,log,run} are all ram drives)
[02:12] <nn> but i run off a thumbdrive too..
[02:13] <fotofo> nn, that didnt work
[02:13] <SubMOA> how would you register a password with IRC?
[02:13] <kitsune1> ok when i get them were do i put them on so when i put in live cd then open the command line,, how whould i access the driver?
[02:13] <fotofo> not mounted or bad option
[02:13] <fotofo> but it is mounted
[02:13] <vanberge> slacker_nl, i thought they were one in the same?  i am typing vi from command line
[02:13] <HymnToLife> SubMOA, depends on the network
[02:13] <fotofo> so it must be a bad option
[02:14] <kitsune1> sry for so many questions
[02:14] <slacker_nl> vanberge: type: which vi
[02:14] <cybercod> its ok... i ask my share....
[02:14] <nn> slacker_nl: /msg nickserv help
[02:14] <nn> fotofo: strange.. ;\
[02:14] <fotofo> ill just reboot
[02:14] <fotofo> i tried unmount -f and got problems too
[02:14] <cybercod> i'm just trying to give back a little bit
[02:14] <fotofo> drive in use
[02:14] <fotofo> closed the mp3's still problems
[02:15] <slacker_nl> nn?
[02:15] <fotofo> ntn
[02:15] <nn> slacker_nl: yes?
[02:15] <mmzin> people, im using cedega and i install the Steam, normal, when i open it the steam runs but dont apper the icon in the Task bar
[02:15] <fotofo> s/ntn/brb
 slacker_nl: /msg nickserv help <-- ??
[02:15] <nn> slacker_nl: wrong tab, sorry
[02:15] <slacker_nl> ahh, ok
[02:15] <nn> SubMOA: /msg nickserv help
[02:15] <vanberge> slacker_nl, /usr/bin/vi
[02:16] <SubMOA> htmntolife, thanks!
[02:16] <slacker_nl> vanberge: ls -altr /usr/bin/vi , what does that give you?
[02:16] <SubMOA> nn, thanks!
[02:16] <nn> SubMOA: yea, np
[02:16] <phr34ck> !APT
[02:16] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:16] <mmzin> people, im using cedega and i install the Steam, normal, when i open it the steam runs but dont apper the icon in the Task bar
[02:17] <phr34ck> !Synaptic
[02:17] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[02:17] <vanberge> slacker_nl,  /usr/bin/vi -> /etc/alternatives/vi
[02:17] <vanberge> slacker_nl, should i symlink vi to vim?
[02:18] <slacker_nl> vanberge: ls -altr /etc/alternatives/vi this should be a symlink to /usr/bin/vim
[02:18] <slacker_nl> vanberge: do you have that?
[02:18] <cybercod> mmzin... i'm thinking...
[02:19] <kenthomson> i installed firefox through WINE, and close it, now how do i find Windows version of firefox on my FS and run it again through WINE?
[02:19] <lardarse> slacker_nl: fow do you tell that a symlink is a symlink ?
[02:19] <vanberge> slacker_nl, no...     /etc/alternatives/vi -> /usr/bin/vim.tiny
[02:19] <lardarse> how*
[02:19] <basvg> hi all.. I just fiddled with banshee some more. when I run 'ipod --list' then my ipod shows up nicely... but when I fire up banshee (0.11.1) then nuthin' ..
[02:19] <slacker_nl> mmm
[02:19] <slacker_nl> lardarse: if you see this: /etc/alternatives/vi -> /usr/bin/vim
[02:19] <cybercod> should be ~/.wine/c_drive/program files/.......
[02:20] <kenthomson> cybercod, let me try
[02:20] <mmzin> cybercod, i have to install steam on the same partition that linux are, right
[02:20] <slacker_nl> lardarse: that tells me /etc/alternatives/vi points to /usr/bin/vim
[02:20] <lardarse> slacker_nl: which command... ls -altr ?
[02:20] <slacker_nl> lardarse: yeah, ls -l will also do it :)
[02:20] <lardarse> ok
[02:20] <cybercod> mmzini don't have world of warcraft installed on same partition
[02:20] <cybercod> and it still works
[02:21] <slacker_nl> vanberge: ok... I think vim.tiny shoudl also support syntax highlighting
[02:21] <slacker_nl> vanberge: any reason to use vim.tiny?
[02:21] <mmzin> when i kill
[02:21] <cybercod> mmzin.. is there a preset for Steam?
[02:21] <mmzin> steam
[02:21] <lardarse> slacker_nl: aah, useful. thanks
[02:21] <mmzin> dont show in system monitor anymore
[02:21] <slacker_nl> vanberge: otherwise remove vim.tiny and install vim regular
[02:22] <kenthomson> cybercod, what do i do? "wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\firefox.exe": Module not found
[02:22] <kenthomson> "
[02:22] <slacker_nl> lardarse: yw
[02:22] <vanberge> slacker_nl, i have no reasons... im just on a default ubuntu install
[02:22] <cybercod> kenthomson... put it in quotes... it can't handle the space in "Program Files"
[02:22] <nn> vim is yucky :)
[02:22] <slacker_nl> tssk ;)
[02:22] <nn> Ok dudes and chicks and others..
[02:22] <slacker_nl> its not :)
[02:23] <nn> If i was helping you and you have more questions, ask them now or hold your peace at least until i awaken
[02:23] <cybercod> mmzin... it wouldn't show up as steam.. it would show up as wine or cedega
[02:23] <nn> the sun is rising, ie it's time to retreat into the coffin for a few hours
[02:23] <vanberge> slacker_nl, psh... sudo apt-get install vim fixed it
[02:24] <slacker_nl> vanberge: hehe, kewl :)
[02:24] <archie> hi can someone cud mail me original source list
[02:24] <slacker_nl> so vim.tiny does not support syntax highlighting..
[02:24] <vanberge> slacker_nl, ty for helping me.
[02:24] <slacker_nl> vanberge: yw and enjoy vim :)
[02:25] <mmzin> cybercod, hmm right, i think that can be a incompatibility of gnome with steam to not apper in the tray
[02:25] <mmzin> cybercod, steam makes all the updates but when finished, he dissapear
[02:26] <mamzers555> can somebody tell me, what extension i have to install to get a menu in nautilus that give me the option to encrypt files with gpg?
[02:26] <archie> can somebody sent me original software source list ?
[02:27] <MuffY> kenthomson =)
[02:28] <kenthomson> MuffY, You got my instructions yesterday? or did your client quit? :(
[02:28] <MuffY> sorry i quit yesterday, closed the laptop makes it go to sleep mode
[02:28] <MuffY> i forgot :p
[02:28] <MuffY> so i didn't get them
[02:28] <MuffY> let me check if this laptop keeps logs
[02:28] <archie> can somebody sent me original software source list ?
[02:29] <lardarse> ok.. does anyone here know where the best place to look is for info about Joysticks in Ubuntu ?
[02:29] <slacker_nl> archie: i have a sources.list for edgy available..
[02:29] <slacker_nl> archie: www.euronet.nl/users/wesleys/sources.list
[02:29] <hexidigital> archie::  what distro?
[02:29] <archie> edgy
[02:29] <hexidigital> archie::  oh.. sorry
[02:29] <MuffY> kenthomson: i reinstalled ubuntu (killed all partitions and remade them), i only installed ubuntu this time
[02:29] <MuffY> kenthomson: same problem again, black screen
[02:30] <archie> ty slacker
[02:30] <kenthomson> MuffY, yuck!
[02:30] <MuffY> kenthomson: indeed =(
[02:30] <kenthomson> MuffY, Did you try ctrl-alt-f1 at that black screen?
[02:30] <MuffY> yes
[02:30] <kenthomson> MuffY, Doesn't  work?
[02:30] <NineTeen67Come1> thanks much nn .. it's running, now I gotta figure out how to get it sending correctly .. (it times out right now .. my isp might be stomping on it) .. have good night .
[02:30] <MuffY> kenthomson, no
[02:30] <mmzin> cybercod, i think i fix it
[02:30] <kenthomson> MuffY, what are you going to do now?
[02:30] <kenthomson> :)
[02:31] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: enjoy!
[02:31] <archie> slacker it breezy list
[02:31] <MuffY> kenthomson, i really think it has something to do with my graphics card (though i have no arguments/knowledge to back this up)
[02:31] <kenthomson> MuffY, pop-in the ubuntu live CD and lets do some troubleshooting! :)
[02:31] <MuffY> i don;t know
[02:31] <hexidigital> MuffY::  that happens to me... i had to download the alternative .iso, and install from there... also, Kubuntu installed no problem w/ my system, so i think it's a gnome thing
[02:31] <archie> oops sorry :)
[02:31] <slacker_nl> archie: yw
[02:31] <slacker_nl> archie: no its not ;)
[02:31] <kenthomson> MuffY, boot the liveCD up, and lets see what we can do
[02:31] <MuffY> hexidigital, you mean the text based installer?
[02:31] <MuffY> ok
[02:31] <archie> thank you!!!
[02:32] <hexidigital> MuffY::  yes
[02:32] <kenthomson> hexidigital, thats a harsh comment, that the problem is a GNOME thing
[02:32] <mmzin> cybercod,  are u there my steam get an ERROR
[02:32] <hexidigital> kenthomson::  KDE had no problems, i haven't been able to figure anything else... so, 1+1=...
[02:32] <MuffY> kenthomson, hexidigital, make love, not war =p
[02:32] <hexidigital> MuffY::  :-P
[02:33] <MiniJames> 3?
[02:33] <hexidigital> kenthomson::  nothing against Gnome, but i feel it is Gnome specific
[02:33] <kenthomson> MiniJames, no he means 11 :)
[02:33] <MiniJames> nah 1+1 = a window ;)
[02:33] <kitsune1> cybercod : cant find a way to install nvidis drivers through command line on live cd
[02:33] <MiniJames> windows...
[02:33] <cybercod> kenthomson... did you get wine to work right with that?
[02:33] <mmzin> cybercod, Steam.exe (main exception): Unable to start Steam Engine: *SteamStarEngine(0x750ba8) faled with error 200: Connection Reset, WinSock Error 10054 "Connection reset by peer"
[02:34] <kenthomson> cybercod, yeah wine worked, but i cant configure shockwave to work correctly, can you help?
[02:34] <cybercod> sorry ken.. no ... my braincells are misfiring... its dawn here
[02:34] <basvg> hff, there's no ipod-sharp package in the repositories is there
[02:34] <hexidigital> kitsune1::  sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx (or appropriate binary) && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable  -- then restart X
[02:34] <kenthomson> cybercod, :(
[02:34] <cybercod> !nvidia
[02:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:35] <hexidigital> eh... i forgot about that
[02:35] <nn> aww she loveses me
[02:35] <nn> *squeals then pulls dirt over his coffin*
[02:35] <fotoflo_> nn: i rebooted and that all worked
[02:35] <kitsune1> hmm ok but were do i put the drivers first coz i havent go ubuntu installed yet its runnin of live cd
[02:35] <MuffY> kenthomson, live CD is up =)
[02:35] <nn> fotoflo_: good stuff
[02:35] <fotoflo_> err rather, my modified fstab worked
[02:36] <fotoflo_> i have a wierd problem though
[02:36] <fotoflo_> im running apache, but it dosnt show up in ps -A
[02:36] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  what about httpd?
[02:36] <MuffY> kenthomson: please tell me you're still here O_o
[02:37] <fotoflo_> no
[02:37] <kenthomson> MuffY, open a terminal and type "mkdir ~/ubuntuPartition"
[02:37] <MuffY> k
[02:37] <_0mk4r_> how to convert all mp3 files to ogg q2?
[02:37] <fotoflo_> hexidigital, thats what i mean ps -A |grep httpd comes up empty
[02:37] <nn> fotoflo_: i usually use ps auwwx|grep httpd
[02:37] <nn> or apache2
[02:37] <kenthomson> MuffY, after that open gparted and see on what HDD and partition ubuntu resides and tell me
[02:37] <kitsune1> hexidigital : hmm ok but were do i put the drivers first coz i havent go ubuntu installed yet its runnin of live cd
[02:37] <cybercod> kitsume1 first off i suggest you get a package called mined... its a text editor that works pretty well in command line... so Ctrl+alt+F5 then sudo apt-get install mined
[02:37] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  did you just finishing installing?
[02:37] <nn> very likely the path/etc makes it too long to show
[02:37] <cybercod> then ctrl+alt+F7
[02:38] <hexidigital> kitsune1::  sorry, i assumed ubuntu was already installed... i dont know if dl-ing, then installing will work
[02:38] <MuffY> kenthomson, ubuntu is on hda1
[02:38] <fotoflo_> hexidigital: well, ive just installed it
[02:38] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  i mean, did you just install apache?
[02:38] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows a tutorial for making a simple perl plugin for gaim? Can't find anything that works
[02:38] <kenthomson> MuffY, Ubuntu is on hda and one 1=first partition right?
[02:38] <fotoflo_> but when i go to http://localhost/ it shows up
[02:38] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  try sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start (or just apache, depending on version)
[02:39] <nn> i'll have to check out mined, i personally use joe
[02:39] <hexidigital> hmm
[02:39] <MuffY> kenthomson, i installed in on hda1, and yes, first partition (only partition)
[02:39] <nn> but i grew up wif wordstar
[02:39] <kenthomson> MuffY, ok
[02:39] <MuffY> hda1
[02:39] <kitsune1> hexidigital : this is what i get when i run live cd to try and install ubuntu
[02:39] <kitsune1> hexidigital : http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00184xw2.jpg
[02:39] <cybercod> i got mined when i was in a jam.. and i like it ... i've not looked for a better one
[02:39] <fotoflo_> hexidigital, but its running
[02:39] <fotoflo_> i can http to localhost
[02:39] <cybercod> mined actually has ALT menus
[02:40] <nn> i really like joe.. been my favourite editor since i learned it
[02:40] <kenthomson> MuffY, "sudo mount /dev/hda1 ~/ubuntuPartition ext3  iocharset=utf8,umask=000"
[02:40] <nn> i really dont remember when ilearned it, either
[02:40] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[02:40] <cybercod> well, i've been on linux less than 4 months.. so i'm sure I'll change my preferences over time
[02:40] <nn> probably back in say 1999?
[02:40] <hexidigital> kitsune1::  that is real wierd... newer video card, i assume?
[02:41] <nn> the keybindings are a bit odd, but once you learn them, very fast
[02:41] <phos> what is edgy support like for intel core2?
[02:41] <mamzers555> can somebody tell me, what extension i have to install to get a menu in nautilus that give me the option to encrypt files with gpg?
[02:41] <MuffY> kenthomson, isn't it ISO charset? (just asking :))
[02:41] <kitsune1> hexidigital : nvidia xfx geforce 6600 gt
[02:41] <kenthomson> MuffY, no
[02:41] <nn> cybercod: yea, you'll find what you prefer most
[02:41] <MuffY> kenthomson, ok
[02:41] <nn> cybercod: i've just 'always' used joe, so no realy reason or desire to change
[02:41] <cybercod> i feel i'm doing ok for such a little amount of time
[02:41] <MuffY> kenthomson, it wrote a qwhole lot of things
[02:41] <fotoflo_> hexidigital, same thing, but i got an error on reload
[02:41] <nn> it's pretty small yet very featureful and effecient key bindings once you lear
[02:42] <hexidigital> kitsune1::  you can try this... apt-get download {your driver}, then copy it to a flash drive and install it after the install
[02:42] <kenthomson> MuffY, Dont worry "cd ~/ubuntuPartition" then "ls" Do you see "boot"?
[02:42] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  what error? about fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1?
[02:42] <fotoflo_> yeah
[02:42] <fotoflo_> hexidigital, server is still up but still no process
[02:43] <kitsune1> hexidigital : after install? but i cant really see anything when i put in the live cd
[02:43] <MuffY> kenthomson: bash: cd: /home/ubuntu/ubuntuPartition: No such file or directory
[02:43] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  dont worry about that... i have a registered FQDN, and i still get that error... i fixed it once, but dont remember how :/
[02:43] <fotoflo_> not worried about it
[02:43] <fotoflo_> im more worried that theres no HTTPD pid
[02:43] <hexidigital> kitsune1::  another option would be to dl the alternative cd...
[02:43] <kenthomson> MuffY, "sudo mkdir /media/ubuntu"
[02:44] <fotoflo_> and that i dont know where my httpd.conf is
[02:44] <kenthomson> MuffY, "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/ubuntu/ -t ext3 -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000"
[02:44] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  i dunno... httpd.conf is in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[02:44] <MuffY> kenthomson, it doens't print anything when i do these things, i hope that's right?
[02:44] <kenthomson> ya
[02:45] <kitsune1> iv trdyd all cd the llink of pici sent u is from 6.06 but when i put in the new 6.10 before ubuntu boots the screen goes black and says video mode not supported
[02:45] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  ps -A | grep apache
[02:45] <kitsune1> hexidigital : ^
[02:45] <kenthomson> MuffY, "cd /media/ubuntu"
[02:46] <cybercod>     how does one enable restricted repos with apt-get?
[02:46] <kenthomson> MuffY, "ls" what do you get?
[02:46] <MuffY> kenthomson, ok, did that, it printed a lot of text again, it looks like a help COMMAND thing, it explains how to use the command :/
[02:46] <fotoflo_> hexidigital, oh there it is heh
[02:46] <fotoflo_> whops
[02:46] <fotoflo_> thanks
[02:46] <kenthomson> MuffY, Did you go to "cd /media/ubuntu"?
[02:46] <mmzin> anyone have steam working ?
[02:46] <MuffY> kenthomson, it shows nothing
[02:46] <hexidigital> kitsune1::  i dunno... i wish i could help more.. liek i said, i know nothing about installing a driver *before* installing from Live
[02:47] <fotoflo_> sweet
[02:47] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  found it?
[02:47] <MuffY> kenthomson, yes i did, i types ls, and there is nothing
[02:47] <kenthomson> MuffY,  go to "cd /media" then "ls" Do you have a "ubuntu" file?
[02:47] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  i mean apache pid?
[02:47] <MuffY> kenthomson, yes, in a nice shade of blue
[02:47] <kitsune1> :( ok m thanks for all your help
[02:47] <kitsune1> m8*
[02:47] <MuffY> more purple though
[02:47] <hexidigital> kitsune1::  sorry :(
[02:47] <kenthomson> MuffY, "cd /ubuntu" then "ls" do you see anything?
[02:47] <kitsune1> its ok ill find some way lol
[02:47] <cypher1> is there any equivalent of cyberlink powerdvd of windows in ubuntu ?
[02:48] <cybercod> kitsume... i think there's a way... but you'd have an easier time getting the alternate install cd and installing FIRST
[02:48] <MuffY> bash says /ubuntu doesn't exist
[02:48] <MuffY> ftw
[02:48] <kenthomson> MuffY, "sudo mkdir /media/ubuntu"
[02:48] <MuffY> it listed the $#&* partition :/
[02:48] <kitsune1> alternate?
[02:48] <fotoflo_> hexidigital, found it
[02:48] <fotoflo_> found it all
[02:49] <fotoflo_> excellent thansk
[02:49] <hexidigital> kitsune1::  if you are not pressed on time, you could download the server .iso, and when that finishes installing (and if you can see your screen), you can sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop && sudo aptitude install nvidia-{your driver}
[02:49] <MuffY> bash: cannot create directory '/media/ubuntu': File exists
[02:49] <kenthomson> MuffY, after that "cd /media" then "cd /ubuntu"
[02:49] <MuffY> ffftttwwwwww
[02:49] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  :) glad to help
[02:49] <kenthomson> MuffY, "cd /media/ubuntu" what do you get?
[02:49] <MuffY> kenthomson, it still says ubuntu isn't there
[02:50] <kitsune1> hmm:( me n00b lol
[02:50] <MuffY> oh wait
[02:50] <MuffY> i'm in
[02:50] <MuffY> kenthomson, it works =)
[02:50] <cybercod> kitsume...  did you get mined?
[02:50] <MuffY> kenthomson, i'm in /media/ubuntu now
[02:50] <kenthomson> MuffY, "ls" any output?
[02:51] <MuffY> no
[02:51] <hexidigital> kitsune1::  heh.. being a n00b is what makes learning fun :)
[02:51] <kitsune1> lol ok m8
[02:51] <fotoflo_> I just want to say that this channel is great! i went into another linux channel recently and someone told me to to "dd /dev/zero /dev/hda"
[02:51] <fotoflo_> everyone is so helpful here, really sweet
[02:51] <MuffY> fotoflo_, hahahahaha
[02:51] <cybercod> kitsune...did you get the package "mined"?
[02:51] <MuffY> poor ypu
[02:51] <kitsune1> maybe please u can show me what to download
[02:51] <MuffY> you didn't do it right?
[02:51] <kitsune1> cant find it really lol
[02:51] <fotoflo_> no of course not
[02:51] <MuffY> who knows =p
[02:52] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  what channel was that?!
[02:52] <kitsune1> ok found it
[02:52] <kitsune1> mined
[02:52] <MuffY> kenthomson, ls doesn't give any output
[02:52] <kenthomson> MuffY, "df -h" what do you see?
[02:52] <fotoflo_> i havent used linux in about 10 years, but i still have a basic idea of how things work
[02:52] <cybercod> kitsume install that and we'll use it to edit your sources.list
[02:52] <kitsune1> on windows?
[02:52] <rich232> how do I edit menu.lst if its write protected and root doent work
[02:52] <MuffY> kenthomson, i see a lot of things, want me to type it over?
[02:52] <unfun> How do I know if i'm using kde or gnome?
[02:52] <cybercod> no..in the live cd session
[02:53] <kenthomson> MuffY, paste it in #kensworld
[02:53] <kitsune1> ok were should i download and put it?
[02:53] <kitsune1> in were lol
[02:53] <cybercod> no... you need to get it from apt-get
[02:53] <fotoflo_> then they kicked me when i told them to type "/part #channel" in order to gain instant ops
[02:53] <cybercod> sudo apt-get install mined
[02:54] <kitsune1> apt-get ?
[02:54] <kitsune1> lol
[02:54] <cybercod> ok... get out yer pen and paper
[02:54] <kitsune1> ok
[02:54] <cybercod> can unregistered nicks pm eachother?
[02:54] <hexidigital> cybercod::  i dont think so
[02:55] <cybercod> well, you guys watch me.. make sure i make no typos here
[02:55] <kitsune1> :)
[02:55] <cybercod> ready kitsune?
[02:55] <kitsune1> yes
[02:56] <cybercod> write all these instructions down and I'll tell you when to begin using them
[02:56] <kitsune1> hmm ok
[02:56] <anjue> ...
[02:56] <anjue> ah..............
[02:56] <anjue> I need some help
[02:56] <anjue> about apt-proxy
[02:57] <cybercod> kitsume   first press Ctrl+alt+F5 and then put in ubuntu for the username and there is no password on the live disk
[02:57] <richee> hehehe
[02:57] <richee> /root/beer
[02:57] <richee> same here
[02:57] <cybercod> next
[02:57] <hexidigital> richee::  glad someone found it funny :)
[02:58] <cybercod> once you're logged in should be ubuntu@ubuntu or something like that
[02:58] <kitsune1> ok
[02:58] <cybercod> at this point  type             sudo apt-get install mined
[02:58] <linuxeatswindows> I did to hexidigital but I just woke up so Im hesitant at typing
[02:58] <richee> hexidigital: heheheh
[02:58] <HawkeV> anyone know anything about ubuntu pxe booting?
[02:59] <hexidigital> linuxeatswindows::  heh... i hate when i wake up before my fingers
[02:59] <cybercod> once that finishes, come back by pressing Ctrl+alt+F7 and let me know that it worked or not
[02:59] <cybercod> kitsune  go ahead and do that now
[02:59] <fotoflo_> hexidigital, mkbeer /usr/fridge
[02:59] <kitsune1> ok but were do i put the mined file i just downloaded in? im in windows
[03:00] <cybercod> you need to be logged into the live disk to do this... narf
[03:00] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  ./configure beer && make drink && make drink consume
[03:00] <kitsune1> ok but how whould it find the mined file i downloaded in windows
[03:00] <fotoflo_> if it were only that easy
[03:01] <bmhm> hi all
[03:01] <Barghest> are linux newbies welcome here?
[03:01] <cybercod> you wouldn't... apt-get will download it... problem is
[03:01] <HawkeV> guess that's a no then =/
[03:01] <bmhm> =>> sdptool browse 00:12:47:AD:FE:53
[03:01] <bmhm> won't show me anything
[03:01] <cybercod> problem is you won't be able to talk to us because of your errors
[03:01] <kitsune1> lol ok
[03:01] <cybercod> and coming back in here will nullify getting mined because it will just be in ram-drive
[03:02] <kenthomson> cybercod, How do i access Ubuntu's (on HDD) FileSystem from a Ubuntu LIve CD?
[03:02] <cybercod> so wait
[03:02] <bmhm> no output, why? =>> sdptool browse 00:12:47:AD:FE:53
[03:02] <cybercod> lemme get you more instructions first
[03:02] <unfun> How do I remove gnome?
[03:02] <kenthomson> cybercod, assume liveCD is running and Ubuntu FS (the one on HDD) is on hda1
[03:02] <cybercod> cancel out the CTRL+ALT+F7 part
[03:02] <HawkeV> mkdir /mnt/ubuntu; mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubuntu
[03:02] <fotoflo_> hexidigital, hey what was that url you sent me a little while ago? it had alot of useful stuff on it
[03:02] <kitsune1> ok
[03:02] <bmhm> no output, why? =>> sdptool browse 00:12:47:AD:FE:53
[03:02] <Barghest> how do I get another machine to share my current Linux machine's internet connection?
[03:03] <BloodHunter> hey
[03:03] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  url for what? (i dont remember)
[03:03] <HawkeV> bmhm, repeatedly asking the same thing is just going to get you /ignored man
[03:03] <bmhm> ok sorry
[03:03] <BloodHunter> GOt one Question ;D
[03:03] <Zaggynl> Anyone here has experience with getting gaim plugins to work?
[03:03] <fotoflo_> it was like how to do a million things in ubuntu
[03:03] <BloodHunter> Ubuntu is much more fast when i install it on harddrive, then running it with VMware?
[03:03] <fotoflo_> maybe it was someone else who sent it to me
[03:03] <HawkeV> BloodHunter, yes
[03:03] <kenthomson> BloodHunter, absolutely
[03:03] <BloodHunter> hm
[03:04] <BloodHunter> can i cut a half of a partition of windows? :D
[03:04] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  i dont think that was me that sent that link... lemme look in my sent messages.. hang on one sec
[03:04] <Zaggynl> BloodHunter, possible, but better not do that
[03:04] <cybercod> next step will be to type in                       mined /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:04] <BloodHunter> i mean, make the partition smaller
[03:04] <kitsune1> cybercod : ubuntu works nicely in VMware
[03:04] <Zaggynl> BloodHunter, yup
[03:04] <kitsune1> ok
[03:04] <fotoflo_> dont bother
[03:04] <HawkeV> BloodHunter, you could use pqmagic from within windows
[03:04] <fotoflo_> ill look at my history
[03:04] <cybercod> aaaaaahh...
[03:04] <neutrinomass> how do I play .ram files ?
[03:04] <HawkeV> or if you're technically inclined, boot a livecd and use parted
[03:05] <BloodHunter> can i install ubuntu while i have win xp online? since i dont have a burner :P
[03:05] <HawkeV> BloodHunter, no
[03:05] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  yep, definitely wasn't me :)
[03:05] <BloodHunter> shit
[03:05] <hexidigital> !ohno
[03:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohno - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:05] <hexidigital> !language
[03:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:05] <kitsune1> :)
[03:06] <HawkeV> so, anyone know if ubuntu's installer has an option similar to anaconda's linux askmethod?
[03:06] <cybercod> you're gonna look for sources that end in "restricted" and remove the # in front of them
[03:06] <Infeliz> !sensitive|hexidigital
[03:06] <adaptr> January 1st... seems like the perfect time to upgrade to edgy
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sensitive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <CheshireViking> fotoflo: was it this link? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[03:06] <Infeliz> shiiieet
[03:06] <BloodHunter> last question ;D can i connect from ubuntu to a win xp remote computer?
[03:06] <cybercod> you'll need to save the file
[03:06] <HawkeV> BloodHunter, depends what you mean
[03:07] <HawkeV> but the short answer is 'yes'
[03:07] <cybercod> then you'll want to type in          sudo apt-get update
[03:07] <BloodHunter> k
[03:07] <adaptr> BloodHunter: connect in what way ? I know of at least 2 dozen I can use
[03:07] <fotoflo_> CheshireViking, yeah! thanks
[03:07] <BloodHunter> i mean like use it to control the comp :P
[03:07] <hexidigital> !coc
[03:07] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[03:07] <hexidigital> bah
[03:07] <fotoflo_> bookmarked
[03:07] <adaptr> BloodHunter: rdesktop
[03:07] <hexidigital> sorry
[03:08] <BloodHunter> right
[03:08] <CheshireViking> fotoflo_: your welcome
[03:08] <BloodHunter> thx
[03:08] <cybercod> then you're gonna type in             sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:08] <BloodHunter> ahhh got another question :P
[03:09] <BloodHunter> does ubuntu automatically install the drivers for graphics card, mainboard and so on, or i have to do that myself
[03:09] <adaptr> Wow.. it's gonna fetch like.. 1585 files to upgrade
[03:09] <HawkeV> BloodHunter, heh, most of them, yes
[03:09] <adaptr> BloodHunter: what video card do you have ?
[03:09] <HawkeV> if you've got some sort of whack hardware
[03:09] <BloodHunter> Geforce 7900gt
[03:09] <HawkeV> you may need to do some legwork
[03:09] <cybercod> next you'll type in            sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:09] <fotoflo_> god this system is a pain in the bollocks
[03:09] <bjames_> hi all, firstly sorry for the stupid question, but does anyone know if I *need* to install an X server on a machine that's only going to be used via Xming logon?
[03:09] <HawkeV> for nvidia stuff, you'll need to do what cybercod is currently talking about
[03:09] <kenthomson>  cybercod, How do i access Ubuntu's (on HDD) FileSystem from a Ubuntu LIve CD?
[03:09] <kenthomson> cybercod, assume liveCD is running and Ubuntu FS (the one on HDD) is on hda1
[03:09] <adaptr> BloodHunter: enable all repos and fetch restricted-modules for your kernel.. that includes the nvidia closed source driver, and you're all set
[03:10] <BloodHunter> how? :P
[03:10] <cybercod> and at this point you should be able to hit CTRL+ALT+F7 and get graphical interface back up with the new drivers
[03:10] <HawkeV> kenthomson, mkdir /mnt/ubuntu; mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubuntu
[03:10] <HawkeV> in a console
[03:10] <adaptr> BloodHunter: go to system -> synaptic and search for restricted-modules
[03:10] <BloodHunter> kk
[03:10] <adaptr> !nvidia | BloodHunter
[03:10] <ubotu> BloodHunter: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:11] <slacker_nl> !avisplit
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avisplit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <bjames_> Bloodhunter: can I recommend a more appropriate channel?  "try /join nvidia"
[03:11] <slacker_nl> !avi > slacker_nl
[03:11] <bjames_> "/join nvidia" without the quotes
[03:11] <adaptr> bjames_: is that Ubuntu-specific ?
[03:11] <cybercod> once you are at this point you should be able to install like normal... though I'd appreciate it if you start up GAIM and come tell us if it worked before starting the install.
[03:11] <cybercod> did you get all of that kitsune1?
[03:11] <bjames_> no, but it's the right place to go for support installing the prebuilt binaries
[03:12] <bjames_> just an idea
[03:12] <kenthomson> HawkeV, ok
[03:12] <adaptr> bjames_: well, IIRC Ubuntu has some builtin "logic" to help you do this, so why not Google for it ?
[03:12] <kitsune1> hmmm ok m8 thanks a million for your help ill try my best lol
[03:12] <adaptr> bjames_: it's at least 3 times easier than using nvidia's guidelines...
[03:12] <Plinty> how can I mount a remove storage device (an mp3 player, which acts like a removable hard drive with FAT file system (not FAT32))
[03:12] <bjames_> adaptr: ?
[03:12] <cybercod> hey kitsune
[03:12] <kitsune1> yes
[03:13] <adaptr> bjames_: you have to do at least 3 distinct things to get the vanilla nvidia binary to work, and Ubuntu pretty much does them for you
[03:13] <bjames_> I've installed Nvidia drivers before - the best place I found was form the Ubuntu getting started guide, but that's just my experience
[03:13] <kenthomson> HawkeV, How do i give read/write access to that partition you just mounted?
[03:13] <cybercod> if you can start up the live cd in VMware, perhaps you can check the syntax of this stuff before trying it for real
[03:13] <HawkeV> it should be read/write by default
[03:13] <HawkeV> unless you mean to any user
[03:14] <adaptr> bjames_: indeed, but it differs enough from the "official" nvidia way that newcomers probably don't want to be confused by it
[03:14] <bjames_> anywho, does anyone have a clue about my question?
[03:14] <kenthomson> ok
[03:14] <klaus> Hello, with autofs i have probs automounting floppy - is autofs the right way ? or do i have to use udev? i am using edgy .... has anybody any ideas ?
[03:14] <adaptr> bjames_: what was it ? :)
[03:14] <kitsune1> hmm gd idea
[03:14] <HawkeV> if you mean the latter, pmount may be a better idea, alternatively, you could pass -o umask=000 to mount, which should give everyone full access to every file
[03:14] <bjames_> adaptr: I have Ubuntu server set up running SSH and SAMBA as a fileserver - do I need to install an X server on the machine in order to run graphical programs remotely (via Xming)
[03:14] <cybercod> bjames someone was in here earlier that was using an ubuntu-minimal installation with no x
[03:15] <bjames_> adaptr: I asked this over in "xorg", but none of them knew exactly
[03:15] <adaptr> bjames_: ah I see it - well, you *need* the libraries so that X clients can connect to your remote X server, and AFAIK they're only fully installed when you do the full Xorg installation.. you should just go with xorg and tell it not to start up a local X server automatically
[03:16] <bjames_> adaptr: cheers, I'll try and figure out how to do that
[03:16] <adaptr> bjames_: it is mnore relevant to tell your display manager (xdm, gdm, kdm) to do the right things, like A. not start the local X server, and B. open up XDMCP to network requests
[03:16] <bjames_> adaptr: have you had any experience with Xming?
[03:16] <adaptr> bjames_: so, gdm config, not so much Xorg config
[03:17] <cyrus4> hey   im new to ubuntu,  ive installed the nvidia drivers or whatever   just wondering if n e one knows y my screen saver and other full screen video apps are like  stuttering...  its v annoying
[03:17] <adaptr> bjames_: I tried it a while back, and if you just set an Ubuntu desktop to allow remote X, it works pretty much out of the box... haven't had that much luck with a remote server though
[03:17] <adaptr> cyrus4: that means you do *not* actually have the nvidia drivers functioning.. run "glxinfo | grep direct" as root
[03:17] <hexidigital> cyrus4::  did you restart your GUI? (if not, log out, and press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)
[03:18] <bjames_> adaptr: I'm pretty much a newcomer, so to be clear I need to    1) install x- server?    2) somehow edit the startup scripts(? ) to prevent it starting into gdm
[03:18] <hexidigital> cyrus4::  or, you may have to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg and select the proper newly installed driver
[03:18] <kitsune1> cybercod : thanks alot m8 for ur help im away to try it
[03:18] <alecjw> cyrus4: and have you told x to use the nvidia drivers?
[03:18] <cyrus4> yep yep  my mate set it up for me couple of days ago   everything should be sweet and i have a 6600GT   but cant play videos and stuff fullscreen without stutter
[03:18] <klaus> hey nobody here with any idea ?  with autofs i have probs automounting floppy - is autofs the right way ? or do i have to use udev? i am using edgy
[03:19] <kitsune1> ill come bk later on and tell u how far i got
[03:19] <fotoflo_> whats the chmod to make a script runnable?
[03:19] <kitsune1> thanks agian m8
[03:19] <cybercod> kitsune1... i forgot... once you get back into graphical by hitting Ctrl+alt+F7 do a Ctrl+alt+Backspace to restart the GUI
[03:19] <kenthomson> HawkeV,  mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubuntu  -o umask=000, gives full access right?
[03:19] <alecjw> cyrus4: just to make sure, what happens if you type the command "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nvidia" (sans quotes) in the terminal?
[03:20] <richee> hi narasim_7
[03:20] <narasim_7> Hi
[03:20] <adaptr> bjames_: halfway there.. you do need to install X, yes - it's called xorg-server or something, but you do want to start a display manager - it just should not start  the X server.
[03:20] <LameBMX> KenSentMe, that should give no axxess
[03:20] <bjames_> adaptr: ok
[03:20] <LameBMX> im pretty sure umask uses same string as chmod
[03:20] <HawkeV> LameBMX, no, the way umask works
[03:20] <adaptr> bjames_: connecting to a remote X machine is done with the XDMCP protocol, which is part of the display manager - gdm in Ubuntu's default case
[03:20] <narasim_7> gnomesystemtools like users and groups , services etc dont ask for password anymore ... Is this happening to anyone ?
[03:20] <bjames_> in which case does it matter which I choose?
[03:20] <HawkeV> is the reverse to what you're thinking
[03:20] <HawkeV> 777 - umask
[03:21] <HawkeV> 022 would give you
[03:21] <HawkeV> 755
[03:21] <bjames_> adaptr: (it'll probably be gdm)
[03:21] <HawkeV> or root r/w, world read/execute
[03:21] <HawkeV> 000 = 777
[03:21] <HawkeV> which is world r/w
[03:21] <cyrus4> alecjw: yer   Driver     "nvidia"
[03:21] <LameBMX> then then why dont umask=222 give me write access on a ntfs drive
[03:21] <adaptr> bjames_: a little more technical: it is actually gdm that "tells" the X system to use the local X server as the users' display - but it could as well be a remote display
[03:21] <alecjw> cyrus4: that's starnge... can't help0 you then, sorry.
[03:21] <HawkeV> because you are a retard and you just ignored what i said
[03:21] <cyrus4> thx n e ways :)
[03:21] <adaptr> HawkeV: keep it nice
[03:22] <HawkeV> 777-222 = 555
[03:22] <bjames_> adaptr: I'll tell you the whole story, just for clarity.  I'm thinking of setting up a fileserver and at the moment I've installed Ubuntu server 6.06 on VMware and had a "play"
[03:22] <HawkeV> or read/execute for everyone
[03:22] <HawkeV> adaptr, rgr
[03:22] <LameBMX> and HawkeV is more likeyly right im a n00b and just goin but guesses based on what ive fiddled wit
[03:22] <adaptr> bjames_: I'm running 606LTS as a file/web/mail/whatever server here, it's a beaut
[03:22] <bjames_> adaptr: what I want ideally is a minimalist install on hardware but that I can log into using Xming
[03:22] <rich232> what line do I add in menu.lst so that startup starts at 1600 by 1200?
[03:22] <HawkeV> LameBMX, basically, umask=022 would give root r/w, but no-one else
[03:22] <HawkeV> fwiw
[03:22] <adaptr> bjames_: that =kinda contradicts itself.. you won't have a minimalist install when X is possible
[03:23] <bjames_> adaptr: it was easy enough to set up so I'm happy with it so far on VMware - will be moving to hardware in a week or so
[03:23] <adaptr> bjames_: do you know what hardware ?
[03:23] <LameBMX> i think i wound up using the wordy version anyways
[03:23] <LameBMX> :)
[03:23] <bjames_> adaptr: well temporarily a PIII 450, 1G RAM 40G HDD
[03:23] <adaptr> (running on HP Netserver E800 dual P3 here - it was kind of a "steal".. :)
[03:23] <Zaggynl> Hmm I can't download the gaim source with 'sudo apt-get source gaim'
[03:24] <adaptr> bjames_: 1GB of ram is in-sa-neey :)
[03:24] <Zaggynl> http://pastebin.ca/299132
[03:24] <LameBMX> like i said HawkeV ... if something dont work the first time ... i just try different things till it does (after backing up of course)
[03:24] <HawkeV> LameBMX, i like that method of learning =)
[03:24] <LameBMX> or in the case of xorg almost have memorized
[03:24] <HawkeV> google+trial&error == win
[03:24] <lipe> I need some help, to install qt 4.1.4, please !!!
[03:24] <adaptr> bjames_: mine has 256, and it uses about 160 of that with samba, Postfix, apache, mysql, named, mailscanner etc. running
[03:24] <bjames_> adaptr: well I don't know what to do relaly my *main* PC (Windows box) has an AMD x2 3800 3G RAM 400G HDDs so I was going to doneate some RAM from that
[03:24] <LameBMX> yea .. i remember things better lol
[03:25] <adaptr> bjames_: not possible, believe me
[03:25] <HawkeV> dum-de-dum
[03:25] <LameBMX> all this talk about how stable nix is .. and i crash my box about 10 times a day ..
[03:25] <HawkeV> lol
[03:25] <HawkeV> linux is stable in a server environment
[03:25] <LameBMX> yea i understand
[03:25] <lipe> I need some help, to install qt 4.1.4, please !!!
[03:25] <bjames_> adaptr: I might not donate any RAM at all as I have 128 + 256 sticks on the PIII mobo
[03:25] <LameBMX> crap about 3 years ago when i got my first computer ... windows installs didnt last a day
[03:26] <danny> hi guys I just wanted to know if there was any project in the near future to create a new sub distro for tablets, ex : Tubuntu..  that would be nice, spcially since more and more students are getting tablets...
[03:26] <adaptr> bjames_: a P3 uses single rate SDRAM, at 133MHz max., while an AMD 64 uses DDR SDRAM at 266MHz minimum - they're not ecxactly compatible
[03:26] <LameBMX> i could prolly resurrect about half of those now but dont really matter its how i learn
[03:26] <bjames_> adaptr: to be honest I've not looked at the RAM to see if they are compatible so probably
[03:26] <narasim_7> the power management in Kubuntu Control center does not work properly for me..it always becomes 2 hrs eventhugh i set it to 2 minutes ...
[03:26] <bjames_> oops
[03:26] <HawkeV> tubuntu...
[03:26] <lilly> how do i forcefully unmount a mounted image?
[03:26] <narasim_7> any ideas?
[03:26] <HawkeV> is it bad that that gives me bad mental images?
[03:26] <adaptr> bjames_: 384 is  more than enough for the foreseeable future
[03:26] <bjames_> adaptr: good good
[03:26] <HawkeV> lilly, umount -l /mounted/thingy
[03:26] <LameBMX> been using a computer for all of 3 years and now i work fixing them
[03:26] <HawkeV> that's an ehl, not a one
[03:26] <lilly> HawkeV: ok
[03:27] <HawkeV> stands for lazy unmount
[03:27] <adaptr> bjames_: things you *do* want in a server are: 1. ECC memory, if you can get it, and 2. redundant storage.
[03:27] <HawkeV> and it should do what you want
[03:27] <lipe> I need some help, to install qt 4.1.4, please !!!
[03:27] <adaptr> bjames_: 1. is a nice option to have, but 2. is non-negotiable - use a mirrored system disk at least
[03:27] <sukarn> can someone tell me how to build raid arrays (mdadm)? I have a single hard drive (80 GB) from weston digital. I am using 7.04 (testing), and there seems to be some problem with raid arrays in mdadm, causing initramfs-tools to fall back to emergency procedures. while i am able to boot with these kernels, the boot process is very slow, login takes a lot of time, and hard drive activity causes a lot of cpu usage
[03:27] <HawkeV> adaptr, you only want ECC if your processor is compatible with it
[03:27] <bjames_> adaptr: the thing is I was thinking of long-term - I kind of want a system with RAID (when I feel brave enough) and I was wondering if it's possible to have it spin down the HDDs so they don't get too much wear and then use a large RAM buffer and only spin up the HDDS when needed
[03:27] <Grok_> can anyone recommend a good cd ripper/encoder for ubunbtu/linux?
[03:27] <HawkeV> otherwise you'll run into more underlying issues
[03:27] <lipe> I need some help, to install qt 4.1.4, please !!!
[03:27] <Dicander> I am running Ubuntu 6.10 inside a parallels virtual machine under OSX. I tried to install democracy player but got the error message dependency is not satisfiable: mozilla-dev.
[03:27] <hexidigital> lipe::  please don't repeat... if someone know they will help... plus, you haven't described your issue
[03:28] <adaptr> HawkeV: well, strictly, it is only useful if the *mainboard* supports it, but yeah.
[03:28] <adaptr> HawkeV: ECC support is not dependent on the CPU
[03:28] <hexidigital> Grok_::  soundjuicer is pretty easy to use + efficient from what i have done
[03:28] <HawkeV> true, some CPUs do require it tho
[03:28] <Dicander> When I tried to install it using apt I got the message "mozilla-dev" has no release candidate and they suggested that I install libnspr-dev instead. I did, but the error remained. Does anyone know what I might try?
[03:28] <HawkeV> woodcrest/opteron to name a couple
[03:28] <sukarn> Dicander: type in a terminal - sudo apt-get install mozilla-dev
[03:28] <pegger_> xubuntu or ubuntu?
[03:28] <phr34ck> Where could I find this package: sun-java5-jre ?
[03:28] <Grok_> hexidigital, thanks i'll check it out
[03:29] <lipe> hexidigital: I need to install qt 4.1.4 with an archive .tar.gz, and i need someone help for it ...
[03:29] <HawkeV> impe, putting ECC registered ram in a box with a cpu that doesn't need it just causes headaches
[03:29] <adaptr> bjames_: RAID requires no courage - only money :) if you use Linux softraid it works fast, simple, and very very dependably
[03:29] <hexidigital> lipe::  ok... so, you're compling from source code?
[03:29] <adaptr> bjames_: for a server, spinning down the HDs is not an option.
[03:29] <LameBMX> oh wait i  do have a reboot issue .. ill brb with a screenie of my error ... now this one tends to happen if i hit enter in grub too fast .. like <=10 secs ....
[03:29] <HawkeV> swraid... dependable
[03:29] <vanberge> anybody can recommend a good front end to scp?  :-)
[03:29] <bjames_> adaptr: yeah I've heard it's faster than hardware RAID in most cases
[03:29] <lipe> hexidigital: yes ... src ...
[03:29] <bjames_> RAID 5 would be ideal
[03:29] <LameBMX> bjames_, fakeraid .. is a pain in the butt .. but it works too ... eventually
[03:30] <hexidigital> ok, one sec
[03:30] <HawkeV> bjames_, swraid 0 or 1 maybe
[03:30] <HawkeV> swraid anything else is neither fast or reliable
[03:30] <sukarn> Dicander: do you have all the repos enabled?
[03:30] <LameBMX> speakin of which how can i add to a wiki or whatever ?
[03:30] <adaptr> bjames_: well, it's obviously not, if you use decent hardware.. but it is a lot less expensive, and it can combine drives from any type of interface
[03:30] <bulmer> vanverge: on konqueror there is fish:///
[03:30] <hexidigital> lipe::  first, make sure you have dependencies.. "sudo apt-get build-dep qt4-dev-tools
[03:30] <alecjw> LameBMX: sign up to thw wiki, and click on edit at he top of the page. to make a new page, go tho that page and click on "make new page"
[03:31] <adaptr> bjames_: the last one is really the most important - if you get, say, 4 drives on a 4-drive RAID card, then that's it - you cannot expand beyond it, and if you decide to put in another 4x card then you'd get 2 arrays at best - with softraid you just set up all 8 drives to give you RAID 10 or 5 or 50 or whatever
[03:31] <Dicander> sukarn: I tried that and got: The package is not available but another package refers to it. This package might replace it: libnspr-dev. Mozilla-dev has no release candidate (rough translation from the actual Swedish messages i got)
[03:31] <adaptr> bjames_: whether RAID5 is ideal really depends on what you're going to use it for
[03:31] <hexidigital> lipe::  then extract the archive -- "tar zxvf {qt.tar.gz file name}, then ./configure, then sudo make, then sudo make install
[03:31] <lipe> hexidigital: : Package xlibmesa-gl-dev has no installation candidate
[03:31] <HawkeV> adaptr, raid10 swraid ain't gonna happen
[03:31] <adaptr> bjames_: in terms of pure storage, yes - it is
[03:32] <HawkeV> if it worked, it would be slow
[03:32] <hexidigital> lipe::  that *could* be a problem... not definitely, though
[03:32] <LameBMX> ahhh so i have to create a wiki account too
[03:32] <adaptr> HawkeV: don't be silly - it's standard on 2.6 kernels
[03:32] <lipe> hexidigital: huhmm. how can i solve that ?!
[03:32] <HawkeV> adaptr, you're on crack bro
[03:32] <HawkeV> 2.6 supports natively, 0,1,3,5 and possibly 6
[03:32] <sukarn> can anyone help me with what I said a while ago? -
[03:32] <sukarn> can someone tell me how to build raid arrays (mdadm)? I have a single hard drive (80 GB) from weston digital. I am using 7.04 (testing), and there seems to be some problem with raid arrays in mdadm, causing initramfs-tools to fall back to emergency procedures. while i am able to boot with these kernels, the boot process is very slow, login takes a lot of time, and hard drive activity causes a lot of cpu usage
[03:32] <lipe> hexidigital: maybe adding another repository ??
[03:32] <bjames_> adaptr: well I like RAID 5 as a balance between fault tolerance and speed, however thinking about it striping (RAID 1?) might be better as it'll be accedd over a wireless network therefore wont need the speed
[03:32] <hexidigital> lipe::  you can try to ./configure it w/o downloading dependencies, and see what you need
[03:32] <HawkeV> sure, you can mirror then stripe two md's
[03:32] <bjames_> accessed*
[03:32] <adaptr> HawkeV: it won't actually increase performance over raid-5 i software, since you'd have to run raid 0 on top of raid 1 , but it is certainly possible
[03:32] <HawkeV> but i've never seen it done
[03:33] <LameBMX> well all i was going to do is put how i used 2 wiki's to install fakeraid with dmraid in guimode .. but it used a non guimode for install lol
[03:33] <Dicander> sukarn: No I haven't enabled any non-default repos. How do I do that?
[03:33] <adaptr> HawkeV: please stop talking out of your rear end :)
[03:33] <LameBMX> :/
[03:33] <HawkeV> adaptr, heh
[03:33] <lipe> hexidigital: i already tryied it, but qt isn't installed correctly
[03:33] <HawkeV> adaptr, do you have any life experience in a real environment with raid, or is this just what you read on google?
[03:33] <HawkeV> \
[03:33] <bjames_> adaptr: I've read a bit about RAID and it seems simple enough to set up in Linux
[03:33] <lipe> hexidigital: i think that my qt is 3.x.x ... and after compiling it, it continues the same
[03:34] <sukarn> Dicander: the package is in the universe repositories
[03:34] <fotoflo_> hmm
[03:34] <hexidigital> lipe::  you can "sudo apt-cache search qt" *replace qt with any dependencies you need to find packages that match
[03:34] <HawkeV> because, given my own experience with RAID implementations in a server environment, i'd be forced to mock anyone who actually considered using swraid for anything that they wanted to be either reliable or reduntant
[03:34] <bjames_> adaptr: basically I want a VERY reliable box that I can sit in a cupboard and not worry too much about, but I'd like to be able to compile stuff with it every now and again
[03:34] <sukarn> Dicander: type in a terminal - gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:34] <fotoflo_> so what needs to happen for a cgi to run on apache?
[03:34] <lipe> hexidigital: lemme try it, thx u very much !
[03:34] <fotoflo_> ive chmod 555'ed the script
[03:34] <HawkeV> bjames_, buy yourself a cheap raid card from newegg
[03:34] <adaptr> HawkeV: what do you mean by real life experience ? I run about 50 HP proliant servers with any thinkable combination of raid and hardware controllers, including a cluster setup with a fully redundant MSA1500 w/ 14x 72GB Ultra320 on fibre channel
[03:35] <hexidigital> lipe::  hope it helps :)
[03:35] <fotoflo_> but i still get forbidden
[03:35] <sukarn> Dicander: then uncomment (remove #) the lines that say universe
[03:35] <Dicander> sukarn: Thanks. I'll try that
[03:35] <adaptr> bjames_: yes, md raid is very easy to set up - you can even let Ubuntu server do it for you while installing
[03:35] <bjames_> Hawkev: how cheap is cheap though?  I think software RAID is probably right for me
[03:35] <adaptr> bjames_: that's what I did - mine is running off 2x 36GB ultra160 on an adaptec card
[03:36] <HawkeV> adaptr, then you should well know that swraid doesn't fly in that environment
[03:36] <sukarn> Dicander: you'll need to do a "sudo apt-get update" before you can inatall mozilla-dev
[03:36] <adaptr> HawkeV: what environment ? what are you talking about ?
[03:36] <HawkeV> bjames_, a cheap card starts at $70
[03:36] <HawkeV> tho, I wouldn't vouch for exactly how reliable it would be
[03:36] <bjames_> you see that's not really "cheap" compared to what I'm looking at shelling out for the rest of the HW
[03:36] <adaptr> bjames_: if the choice is between Linux md RAID and a fakeraid card, forget the card - it's useless
[03:36] <HawkeV> you could pick up a 3ware 7500 for about 150
[03:37] <adaptr> bjames_: a *real* RAID controller will start at around $300, for 4 SATA channels
[03:37] <sukarn> does no one have any idea how to build a raid array? i'm not really sure what i have to do here. i'm using a single HDD, and mdadm is causing some problems
[03:37] <sukarn> i don't even know what RAID is
[03:37] <bjames_> adaptr: exactly!
[03:37] <HawkeV> sukarn, why do you want to build a raid array with a single hdd?
[03:37] <adaptr> bjames_: but that will also give you on-board cache RAM and battery backup - which is a little more than you need for  a home setup
[03:37] <sukarn> see my thread here - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326894
[03:38] <bjames_> adaptr: I can get an SATA mobo for 30 (~$45) and software RAID a lot easier!
[03:38] <sukarn> i've explained everything there
[03:38] <lipe> hexidigital: hexi ... i need to compile it in a especific directory ??
[03:38] <adaptr> bjames_: I thought you already had the board ? you mentioned a P3 450 somewhere back
[03:38] <alecjw> sukarn: RAID makes 2 hard drives act as one
[03:38] <hexidigital> lipe::  no... it'll find the directories it needs
[03:38] <fotoflo_> how do i get a cgi script to work in a apache?
[03:39] <bjames_> RAID = redundant array of inexpensive disks - it's a way to either make your storage FASTER, MORE RELIABLE or both
[03:39] <adaptr> fotoflo_: #apache
[03:39] <fotoflo_> ok
[03:39] <HawkeV> sukarn, that error is normal
[03:39] <HawkeV> it's not detrimental to your system in anyway
[03:39] <LameBMX> okay here is my too quick of boot error ... drumroll pleeze .... http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0016kz7.jpg
[03:39] <HawkeV> it's just starting the md drivers, and since you don't have raid, is flagging a warning
[03:39] <lord_ceiphas> i have a problem to teach my edgy eft that my mouse has 12 buttons, not only 9
[03:39] <sukarn> ok, then i wonder why its causing so much CPU usage and HDD slowdown. it never appeared before, and i've not had such slow performance with such high CPU usage
[03:40] <HawkeV> sukarn, you sure the slowdown is md related?
[03:40] <bjames_> adaptr: here's the evolution of my fileserver - VMware setup to test (current), PIII 450 hardware (next step - when I get back to the flat), hardware X (when I get round to upgrading so I can use SATA HDDs possibly)
[03:40] <adaptr> sukarn: good point; run dstat while doing disk-related things to see what causes the slowdown
[03:40] <sukarn> i think it is, and the other guy in the thread also said he'd been having slow downs with the same warning.
[03:41] <adaptr> bjames_: how much time between step 2 and 3 ? if it's less than say a month, it might not be worth the trouble
[03:41] <sukarn> adaptr: i'll do that just now
[03:41] <alecjw> HawkeV: try passing noapci as a kernel argument. if you fix it, you might want ot ad the arguments spash and quiet too, to get rid of that nasty text
[03:41] <adaptr> sukarn: you may have to apt-get dstat first
[03:41] <sukarn> $ dstat
[03:41] <sukarn> bash: dstat: command not found
[03:41] <sukarn> oh ok
[03:42] <bjames_> adaptr: at the moment I'm a Windows user and want a file store with some provision to "play" with Linux
[03:42] <lord_ceiphas> i have a problem to teach my edgy eft that my mouse has 12 buttons, not only 9
[03:43] <bjames_> adaptr: I'll probably install a "minimal" X-install for now and use the PIII hardware with my current PATA drives
[03:43] <bjames_> thanks one and all for the info/advice
[03:43] <hexidigital> lord_ceiphas::  heh.. .i have a problem teaching dapper that i have 5 buttons :-P
[03:43] <adaptr> bjames_: if all you want is a fileserver, why use X at all ?
[03:44] <lord_ceiphas> very funny.. i added the buttons in the xorg.conf, but when i run xmodmap he tells me, that there are only 9... if i look at my mouse, it HAS 12
[03:44] <bjames_> adaptr: well this is something I'm arguing with myself, part of me wants a graphical logic from my Windows box so I can sort of ease myself into Linux (I've only ever dipped my toes in the Linux water and found it to be tepid at best, although it's getting warmer)
[03:44] <Dicander> Where do I find gsuko?
[03:44] <Dicander> What package?
[03:44] <bjames_> login*
[03:45] <jbroome> Dicander: i think you're looking for gksudo
[03:45] <C-O-L-T> Happy new year. Romania and Bulgaria joined to the EU
[03:45] <qos> hey guys... wish u a happy new year
[03:45] <Dicander> jbroome: Thanks. :-)
[03:46] <bjames_> adaptr: (I've tried VMware - which I love, I've also dual booted, but found the sheer number of partitions can be a hastle when windows dies and decides it wants to "reclaim" the HDD behind my back, etc)
[03:46] <sukarn> I have posted the output of dstat here - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326894 at the end of the last post on the page (3rd post on the page)
[03:46] <kenthomson> !nvidia
[03:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:47] <adaptr> bjames_: if you manage to set up an X login to your server it will grant you almost no visible benefit.. it is nothing like Windows in any way
[03:47] <Zoffix> Hi, my "xchat" icon disappeared from the panel :/ how can I get it back?
[03:48] <adaptr> bjames_: as a simpel home file and internet server, linux is far superior to windows
[03:48] <DarthLappy> adaptr: As a complex server, Linux is far superior to Windows ^_^
[03:48] <bjames_> adaptr: no, no, I mean I want something that allows me to get more used to Linux in a transition from Windows completely
[03:48] <adaptr> bjames_: I run mine ona dual P3 server system because I can.. because I have it, not because it needs the hardware
[03:49] <adaptr> bjames_: and I am trying to explain that having a GUI on a Linux server will not help with that transition in the slightest
[03:49] <bjames_> adaptr: whilst being useful in the mean time
[03:49] <bjames_> adaptr: why not?
[03:49] <php-freak> i just burned a cd, and the data is tooken up on the cd, but i don't see the files?
[03:50] <adaptr> bjames_: because.. it is *nothing like* Windows
[03:50] <sukarn> adaptr: I have posted the output of dstat here - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326894 at the end of the last post on the page (3rd post on the page)
[03:50] <adaptr> sukarn: so, what does it tell you ?
[03:50] <alecjw> php-freak: in windows? try ejecting the cd and putting it in again
[03:50] <bjames_> adaptr: I want to get used to the Linux alternatives to Windows programs so I can transition between the two - I'm not looking to make Linux into Windows, I think we have crossed wires at some point
[03:50] <php-freak> in kubuntu
[03:50] <HawkeV> bjames_, what are you going to use the box for?
[03:50] <HawkeV> desktop, or fileserver?
[03:51] <alecjw> php-freak: well, still try the eject thing
[03:51] <adaptr> bjames_: I understand that, and for that, you can start by running Ubuntu in a vmware host to get used to it. But for a server, things are altogether completely different
[03:51] <qos> i ve got a problem with my freshly installed ubuntu. it just hangs during boot process ... does anyone know why this happens? i guess it has something todo with grub ...
[03:51] <sukarn> adaptr: I don't get any errors, but I cannot understand what its telling me either.
[03:51] <php-freak> I already did
[03:51] <php-freak> I burned with joliet on
[03:51] <adaptr> sukarn: dstat tells you where it is spending its time
[03:51] <Terminus> bjames_: a linux server generally doesn't have a GUI.
[03:51] <javimansilla> How can I install lame in breezy? Does anyone knows what repository should I use?
[03:52] <alecjw> javimansilla: try sudo aptitude isntall gstreamer0.8-lame
[03:52] <adaptr> javimansilla: upgrady ?
[03:52] <alecjw> *install
[03:52] <bjames_> I realise a "typical" Linux server is a headless box that sits and does it's job nice and quietly
[03:52] <php-freak> says something about some file names need to be shorten cuase of joliet extensinos?
[03:52] <bjames_> and is normally only prodded via SSH or similar for maintenance
[03:52] <alecjw> adaptr: we ccan't sell breezy users to upgarde for another year yet :D
[03:52] <alecjw> we can only tell warty people to upgrade
[03:53] <qos> i ve got a problem with my freshly installed ubuntu. it just hangs during boot process ... does anyone know why this happens? i guess it has something todo with grub ...
[03:53] <adaptr> bjames_: exactly.. and - perhaps contrary to your intuition - you are going to have to *start* there in order to have a swinging chance at getting a *graphical* server to work...
[03:53] <alecjw> qos: does it show a menu?
[03:53] <javimansilla> alecjw: I tried, but seems that I dont have the right repositories, because doing aptitude search lame i got nothing
[03:53] <javimansilla> adaptr: what do you mean?
[03:53] <qos> alecjw, yes ...
[03:53] <adaptr> alecjw: uhm.. why ? is breezy an LTS release then ?
[03:53] <alecjw> javimansilla: do you know how to enable the uni/multiverse repos?
[03:53] <bjames_> adaptr: start from a graphical "Desktop" install?
[03:54] <jbroome> adaptr: breezy isn't a LTS.  Dapper is, so far the only lts
[03:54] <Dicander> sukarn: It still does not work. It says mozilla-dev has no release candidate.
[03:54] <adaptr> bjames_: of course you can do that, but it will need significantly more hardware
[03:54] <Terminus> bjames_: if you want to know what's useful to learn, i'd say learn how to use vi. it's probably the most generally available text editor on a linux box and you'll be using it extensively to edit configuration files.
[03:54] <adaptr> jbroome: I thought I knew that
[03:54] <php-freak> the debug message said something about could not burn due to root?
[03:54] <Dicander> I suppose I could just download it and install it myself.
[03:54] <alecjw> adaptr: it's not been completely discarded yet... only warty has. we can tell hoary people to upgade when feisty's released
[03:54] <javimansilla> alecjw I think yes, but I would say that I did something wrong, because I still can not have this working. can you please help me with that?
[03:54] <php-freak> how do i burn files that are in the root?
[03:54] <bjames_> Terminus: I already use vim to edit config files
[03:54] <alecjw> javimansilla: and are you using ubuntu as in gnome?
[03:55] <sukarn> Dicander: you'll need to do a "sudo apt-get update" before you can inatall mozilla-dev
[03:55] <hexidigital> php-freak::  sudo before your command/
[03:55] <hexidigital> *?
[03:55] <javimansilla> alecjw: xfce
[03:55] <adaptr> alecjw: advising people to upgrade has very little to do with whether it's still supported, in  my view - Ubuntu is heavily under development, and even Dapper will have many advantages over breezy, whether breezy is EOL or not.
[03:55] <php-freak> hexidigital: I'm burning a cd?
[03:55] <hexidigital> php-freak::  what program?
[03:56] <Terminus> bjames_: oh ok.
[03:56] <adaptr> alecjw: "must" upgrade vs. "can and probably should" upgrade
[03:56] <php-freak> k3b dvd & cd burning
[03:56] <hexidigital> php-freak::  *what program are you using?
[03:56] <hexidigital> php-freak::  in terminal, sudo k3b
[03:56] <qos> alecjw, there are 2 harddrives in my computer... i didn't know where to install grub (hd0 or hd1) during installation process ..
[03:56] <alecjw> javimansilla: gksudo mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list, then add the line deb http://<countrycode (eg gb)>.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[03:56] <qos> alecjw, i think that has something todo with the problem
[03:57] <cybercod> grub gets installed to primary HD
[03:57] <cybercod> hd0
[03:57] <alecjw> qos: presumably (hd0). most BIOSes bott from the first hard drive 1st
[03:57] <ceacro> hello world
[03:57] <MuffY> that ken thomson guy helped me out ^_^
[03:57] <hexidigital> heh... aren't all mcmuffins mcmuffins of doom? high cholesterol ftw
[03:57] <php-freak> hexidigital: what if it says it needs to shorten file naems because of joliet extension, and ask if i want to continue right before i get raedy to burn it?
[03:58] <MuffY> :p
[03:58] <sukarn> adaptr: This is the raid controller of my system (I think) - 00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8251 AHCI/SATA 4-Port Controller
[03:58] <hexidigital> php-freak::  it's worth a shot trying, otherwise you will have to copy the file to a different directory & change the name
[03:58] <MuffY> i recently found out a McMuffin isn't like a normal muffin at all
[03:58] <adaptr> sukarn: okay...
[03:58] <hexidigital> MuffY::  no, it has Mc before it
[03:58] <qos> my primary hd is the one where is only one large data partition (but no ones with OS's n it). on the second one are just OS's
[03:58] <MuffY> it's some kind of mcdonalds sandwich :/
[03:58] <MuffY> yes i know :p
[03:58] <hexidigital> MuffY::  ah :)
[03:58] <alecjw> MuffY: shouldn't that go in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[03:58] <bjames_> I remember going to Canada once and buying a McMuffin and it had maple syrup in!
[03:59] <MuffY> oh sorry
[03:59] <bjames_> controvertial
[03:59] <LameBMX> did it come with a gun in the bag bjames_
[03:59] <javimansilla>  alecjw: just deb line, or deb-src too?
[03:59] <sukarn> adaptr: but I have no idea whether it needs any arrays to work correctly or not.
[03:59] <alecjw> javimansilla: you can do the deb-src too, but unesss you're actually gonna use the sdources, it's rather pointless
[03:59] <adaptr> sukarn: it should never *need* an array to just access hard drives
[04:00] <LameBMX> sukarn,
[04:00] <adaptr> sukarn: but there could be BIOS options to switch the controller between normal mode and RAID mode
[04:00] <sukarn> ok, but there does seem to be something wrong here
[04:00] <bjames_> adaptr: I'm going to try installing the desktop version on VMware and see how I get on with remote desktop then balance my thoughts and decide what to do, cheers for the help
[04:00] <javimansilla> alecjw: ok, later aptitude update, and let see what happens ...
[04:00] <hexidigital> alecjw::  sorry, that was my fault, not MuffY 's
[04:00] <alecjw> javimansilla: yep
[04:00] <LameBMX> what kind of computer is this .. adaptr im curious if its an OEM computer that set his drives in a fakeraid array for him
[04:00] <LameBMX> :)
[04:00] <alecjw> hexidigital: lol
[04:01] <sukarn> hmm... i'll have to check the BIOS, though I never changed any setting related to HDD in the bios, I only changed the display settings
[04:01] <sukarn> its a PC that I use in my home
[04:01] <LameBMX> sukarn, what kind of PC is this
[04:01] <LameBMX> dell homemade etc
[04:01] <adaptr> LameBMX: it probably isn't an add-on card.. he'd have to know more about it to start with
[04:01] <sukarn> LameBMX: assembled
[04:01] <koyo001> discouraged
[04:02] <qos> alecjw, got it to start ubuntu. but it hangs during boot at "[xxx]  usb 1-2.3 : configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice"
[04:02] <sukarn> its built into the motherboard I think
[04:02] <LameBMX> okay so you picked up that parts and built it yourself correct sukarn
[04:02] <koyo001> ive been trying to connect my wireless modem
[04:02] <koyo001> nothing works
[04:02] <cybercod> no luck yet koyo?
[04:02] <koyo001> on my laptop
[04:02] <Maheanuu> sukarn, if you are using a bios setting for raid, then the software raid in dapper cannot be used..  You must do everything from ubuntu, and forget about the softraid that bios wants to set up (or so it seems to me)
[04:02] <koyo001> nop
[04:02] <alecjw> qos: how long does it hang for?
[04:02] <sukarn> LameBMX: not myself, a technician did it about 3 months ago
[04:02] <koyo001> been trying for 2 days
[04:02] <LameBMX> i just dont want you to toy with raid on your new deal on a fakeraid and find out you toasted your windows install
[04:02] <koyo001> thinking about going back to windows
[04:03] <hexidigital> koyo001::  what type of wireless card?
[04:03] <smurf> hi
[04:03] <MuffY> hello
[04:03] <koyo001> its a roadcom 4311
[04:03] <qos> alecjw, since 20 mins ... dont think that it will change
[04:03] <MORTAL> Wii rullz
[04:03] <LameBMX> well id advise checkin with that tech about if he setup a raid array
[04:03] <MuffY> MORTAL: it does=)
[04:03] <sukarn> LameBMX: I have windows installed, but I don't use it. Windows doesn't matter to me.
[04:03] <smurf> how do i install something through apt-get and override my custom configuration with the default one?
[04:03] <koyo001> broadcom
[04:03] <unimatrix9> any one familiar with SLAB?
[04:04] <MuffY> though zelda has been sold out for weeks :(
[04:04] <Maheanuu> I fought over the softraid bios and the softraid from Ubuntu for over 2 weeks
[04:04] <MORTAL> =)
[04:04] <unimatrix9> windows is for games , right?
[04:04] <sukarn> Maheanuu: I am using feisty, not dapper
[04:04] <koyo001> read everything
[04:04] <unimatrix9> :P
[04:04] <hexidigital> koyo001::  you can try my tutorial on www.hexidigital.org , but i use a BCM4318.. however, the tutorial is badly outdated, and some stuff may be unnecessary
[04:04] <tarawa_> anyone seeing firefox 1.8 on edgy break consistently?
[04:04] <koyo001> i tried
[04:04] <unimatrix9> tarawa - might be due to plugins you use..
[04:04] <hexidigital> koyo001::  tutorial is out of date, but it still works
[04:04] <koyo001> it gives me error codes
[04:04] <hexidigital> koyo001::  you used my tutorial?
[04:05] <cybercod> koyo maybe its the drivers you tried to use in ndiswrapper... try getting some from another source
[04:05] <koyo001> i used like4 different tutorial
[04:05] <hexidigital> koyo001::  try mine
[04:05] <LameBMX> k sukarn i was just buttin in for a quick second so you didnt accidently undo a fakeraid array and find something didnt work right lol
[04:05] <javimansilla> alecjw: great man. Thanks a lot, and have a fantastic 2007!
[04:05] <wvrlinux> does anyone know where i can download jass for ubuntu??
[04:05] <hexidigital> koyo001::  what do you have to lose?
[04:05] <LameBMX> Maheanuu, and what was you outcome
[04:05] <koyo001> well alot alot of time
[04:05] <koyo001> and maybe my wife
[04:05] <sukarn> LameBMX: Doesn't seem possible. He only checked that the display was on when he assembled the PC
[04:05] <Dicander> Where does Ubuntu store desktop programs such as democracy player, i.e. is there an equivalent of Applications folder on OSX?
[04:06] <hexidigital> koyo001::  heh... not worth losing a wife :)
[04:06] <LameBMX> ahhh cool cool
[04:06] <Maheanuu> sukarn, you might want to do a read on this  http://unthought.net/Software-RAID.HOWTO/Software-RAID.HOWTO.txt
[04:06] <adaptr> Dicander: all applications are stored under /usr/bin, /usr/lib, and such
[04:06] <koyo001> give me the tutorial site please
[04:06] <sukarn> LameBMX: I really mean it. I found out after bringing the PC home that he had not even connected the HDD to the power supply
[04:06] <koyo001> i will try it
[04:06] <adaptr> Dicander: nothing like the Windows scheme exists, no
[04:06] <sukarn> LameBMX: I did that myself though
[04:06] <LameBMX> like i said i just didnt want you to screw up that .. find out linux isnt installed and windows got broke
[04:07] <sukarn> Maheanuu: Checking the link. Tanks
[04:07] <hexidigital> koyo001::  www.hexidigital.org/broadcom.html
[04:07] <unimatrix9> is there an ubuntu version for the playstation 3? ...
[04:08] <LameBMX> Maheanuu, yea search wiki for fakeraid ...i had to use the long howtoo and the quicky fakeraid edgy one ... and mix them up ...
[04:08] <Maheanuu> No prob's, I had been pulling my hair out for 2 weeks until I finally managed to find the various how to pages for setting up raid, I am building a raid5 array for storing video etc on and need the speed and large space
[04:08] <smurf> how do i install something through apt-get and override my custom configuration with the default one? for exemple... i've changed my apache2.conf file and i want to reinstall apache restoring its default configuration
[04:08] <koyo001> how do i uncomment multiverse
[04:08] <unimatrix9> you most be bold by now...LOL
[04:09] <koyo001> since you did it
[04:09] <koyo001> your probably the best person to inform me
[04:09] <LameBMX> oh yea Maheanuu i remember ya now ... personally for vid work i would have bounced between a couple raid 0's and left the 5th for storage
[04:09] <sukarn> LameBMX and Maheanuu thanks for all this help.
[04:09] <adaptr> smurf: no need to reinstall.. just run dpkg-reconfigure apache2
[04:09] <LameBMX> i readfile from on raid 0 ... writefile to other raid 0 :)
[04:10] <hexidigital> koyo001::  open /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor as root, ie. sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list, and remove the # before universe & multiverse
[04:10] <lord_ceiphas>  i have a problem to teach my edgy eft that my mouse has 12 buttons, not only 9
[04:10] <hexidigital> brb
[04:10] <LameBMX> hey sukarn i wasnt helpin adaptr was helpin ya .. i just butted in for a quick second cuz i saw you didnt know about raid and didnt want ya to toaste something elses
[04:10] <adaptr> lord_ceiphas: you only have 10 fingers...
[04:10] <smurf> adaptr, thanks
[04:10] <lord_ceiphas> ha ha
[04:10] <sukarn> oh yeah, i meant adaptr as well
[04:10] <LameBMX> Maheanuu, but again thats all preference
[04:10] <klaus> hey, i cant get autofs with automounting floppy get work :( any ideas ? seems to be configured right, no errormessages ... status tells me active-mount-points are/usr/sbin/automount --pid-file=/var/run/autofs/_media_floppy.pid --timeout=1 /media/floppy file /etc/auto.floppy
[04:10] <adaptr> sukarn: you're welcome
[04:11] <koyo001> says permission denied
[04:11] <LameBMX> Maheanuu, you way is defiantaly a nice combo of ease and performance and reliability
[04:11] <FrozZ> Hi, I've a Ati Xpress 200 and I go to install Ubuntu. But I've read that Dapper is better than Edgy for install this card. Is it true ?
[04:11] <Maheanuu> how true, Lame...  I just like raid5 over all the others, having been using in under windoze all these yrs
[04:11] <lord_ceiphas> i have 3 thumb-buttons, three main buttons, four wheel-buttons (up-down-left-right) and thwo buttons over and under the wheel. that makes 12
[04:11] <sukarn> now i'll go and check my bios. will take some time as boot process is slow for me right now
[04:11] <hexidigital> koyo001::  you have to use "sudo" before the command
[04:12] <LameBMX> yea ive been softraid 0 for years .. and a couple 250GB's to store junk
[04:12] <qos> my ubuntu hangs after "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done." Does anyone know a solution?
[04:12] <adaptr> Maheanuu: RAID-5 != speed
[04:12] <hexidigital> !usenames | koyo001
[04:12] <ubotu> koyo001: Please prefix what you're saying with a name to avoid confusion. See !tab
[04:12] <LameBMX> yea but its faster than raid1 ...
[04:12] <Maheanuu> Altho, I am just beginning to get my feet wet in the linux world, and will be using a lot of advice from the friendly crowd here at Ubuntu...
[04:13] <hexidigital> Maheanuu::  that's what we're all here for
[04:13] <lord_ceiphas> me too
[04:13] <nelsonuwp> anyone have any luck with ubuntu and dialup?
[04:13] <LameBMX> im learning and tryin help other with what ive learned so far
[04:13] <koyo001> i dont know how to
[04:13] <koyo001> if i did i would
[04:13] <kitsune1> cybercod on?
[04:13] <lord_ceiphas> i had this mouse working completely under fedora, but lost my old xorg.conf *grml*
[04:14] <hexidigital> !sudo | koyo001
[04:14] <ubotu> koyo001: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:14] <Jowi> !dialup | nelsonuwp
[04:14] <ubotu> nelsonuwp: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[04:14] <IndyGunFreak> lord_ceiphas, is ti a USB or PS2 mouse?
[04:14] <koyo001> yeah sudo i know
[04:14] <koyo001> its the other comment i was refering to
[04:14] <nelsonuwp> Jowi: i did all that but I still cant get anything. I believe I installed the correct driver too
[04:14] <lord_ceiphas> its a bluetooth-mouse, but is recognizes as a usb-mouse... the logitech mx1000 laser
[04:14] <kitsune1> cybercod : OMG Thanks alot m8 its all working now
[04:15] <zOap> what is the terminal command for removing a dir and alle the files and folders in it?
[04:15] <hexidigital> koyo001::  type hexi[TAB]  before you type if you are talking to me, so i see the hilight
[04:15] <koyo001> that comment
[04:15] <IndyGunFreak> lord_ceiphas, i've had problems with PS 2 mice being detected properly, but never USB.  Maybe try a PS2 adapter
[04:15] <HawkeV> zOap, rm -rf dir
[04:15] <Maheanuu> When Ubuntu first made it's debut, I watched in awe of its humanitarian goals and ideals...  I started handing out warty discs to everyone I ran into at home, and even made a convert of a nephew who was attending our university and working on a degree in puter science, today he is a linux guru and wouldn't change for anything...
[04:15] <koyo001> hello
[04:16] <zOap> HawkeV, thanks:)
[04:16] <HawkeV> np
[04:16] <lord_ceiphas> IndyGunFreak: yes.. ill put the bluetooth-hub into a ps/2-adapter.... im sure this wont work
[04:16] <IndyGunFreak> oh you're running it through a hub
[04:16] <LameBMX> Maheanuu, i was playin around with vista .. and about a week or so ago a saw a vid of beryl ... havnt looked back since lol
[04:16] <zOap> HawkeV, but that won't work for ftp right?
[04:16] <IndyGunFreak> lord_ceiphas,  i thought the mouse was directly plugged intot he PC.
[04:16] <koyo001> hexi [TAB]  HELLO
[04:16] <lord_ceiphas> IndyGunFreak: (16:14:57)  lord_ceiphas:  its a bluetooth-mouse, but is recognizes as a usb-mouse... the logitech mx1000 laser
[04:16] <Maheanuu> are there any users in here from the Pac Northwest???  any around the Portland OR area??
[04:17] <HawkeV> zOap, you didn't say it was for ftp, heh
[04:17] <HawkeV> afaik, ftp doesn't support recursive deletion
[04:17] <qos> my ubuntu hangs after "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done." Does anyone know a solution?
[04:17] <koyo001> not really clear how to do it\
[04:17] <HawkeV> you'll want to use a gui interface for it
[04:17] <HawkeV> but i could be wrong
[04:17] <zOap> HawkeV, no, I thought it would be the same.. but I was arrogantly wrong:D sorry..
[04:17] <LameBMX> but i did have a gentoo install a couple years ago from a nix buddy ... and last summer i made a vector linux aao server for a buddy
[04:17] <Jowi> nelsonuwp, sorry. I do not have much else advice.
[04:17] <nelsonuwp> alright, thanks
[04:18] <koyo001> hello
[04:18] <lord_ceiphas> HawkeV: gftp supports recursive delete
[04:18] <koyo001> did that work
[04:18] <HawkeV> lord_ceiphas, i know that, most graphical ftp clients do
[04:18] <stockfisch> can anyone tell me how i can start a "desktop icon" as super user? i want it to always ask me for the pwd when i double click it
[04:18] <hexidigital> koyo001::  type the letters "HEXI" then press TAB
[04:18] <HawkeV> i was saying i could be wrong about the ftp cli recursive deletion
[04:18] <zOap> lord_ceiphas, it does, but it freezes when it's supposed to delelte folders with alo of subfolders...
[04:18] <HawkeV> things may have changed since the last time i used ftp
[04:18] <HawkeV> zOap, it may not be 'frozen'
[04:18] <koyo001> hexi hello
[04:18] <HawkeV> if there are a lot of sub folders and files
[04:19] <HawkeV> it has to go through ever folder
[04:19] <lord_ceiphas> zOap: depends of the server
[04:19] <HawkeV> catalogue whats there
[04:19] <HawkeV> then delete every file/folder one by one
[04:19] <hexidigital> koyo001::  ok, close enought
[04:19] <koyo001> trying but not working
[04:19] <qos> my ubuntu hangs after "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done." Does anyone know why it does so?
[04:19] <zOap> HawkeV, well, I've tried on many servers, the same result...
[04:19] <HawkeV> have you tried on a folder with one file in it?
[04:19] <koyo001> hexidigital: hello
[04:19] <hexidigital> koyo001::  there you go :)
[04:19] <zOap> HawkeV, yes, works fine
[04:19] <koyo001> ok was putting a space
[04:19] <HawkeV> right, then it's just taking time to find out what there is to delete
[04:20] <koyo001> between hexi and tab
[04:20] <matsyes> Hi i have a vaio and i installed ubuntu edgy eft on it ..but the wierdest things happening it works fine when i connect the ac voltage but not when i start it from battery ..however if i start it using ac it works fine and then when i switch to battery it continues to run ...Any suggestions
[04:20] <zOap> HawkeV, well in this particular example I'm trying to delete 223 folders and about 800 files...
[04:20] <koyo001> hexidigital: ok to remove the ## how do i get to them
[04:20] <HawkeV> yeah...
[04:20] <HawkeV> then hit delete
[04:20] <HawkeV> walk away
[04:20] <HawkeV> come back in a month or so
[04:21] <HawkeV> don't expect it to be instant by any means
[04:21] <zOap> haha, well, If I only had ssh rights on the server...
[04:21] <junior22> #btw23
[04:21] <koyo001> hexidigital: to get to the universe and multiverse
[04:21] <HawkeV> zOap, ask your admin to rm -rf the dir =P
[04:21] <hexidigital> koyo001::  type (in a terminal) sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:21] <zOap> HawkeV, yeah, I may have to.. thanks for the help btw:)
[04:22] <hexidigital> koyo001::  then enter your password
[04:22] <HawkeV> np man
[04:22] <hexidigital> koyo001::  brb, i have to restart my server
[04:22] <koyo001> hexidigital: yeah i am there and waiting
[04:22] <matsyes> hi if someone could help me
[04:22] <richee> matsyes: yes
[04:23] <richee> what's the probs?
[04:23] <matsyes> i have a vaio and i installed ubuntu edgy eft on it ..but the wierdest things happening ...it works fine when i connect the ac voltage but not when i start it from battery ..however if i start it using ac it works fine and then when i switch to battery it continues to run ...Any suggestions
[04:23] <unimatrix9> two batteries?
[04:24] <richee> matsyes: could u please describe ur probs more in detail
[04:24] <matsyes> no single battery
[04:24] <richee> matsyes: guess some problem with ur laptop !
[04:24] <chable> hey
[04:24] <chable> happy new yearrrrrrrrr
[04:24] <matsyes> richee: ummm more detail like how
[04:24] <oidia> matsyes: that realy is weird :P
[04:25] <richee> yeah
[04:25] <matsyes> actually the windows is running fine i thought maybe its a lose connection but its not that
[04:25] <oidia> matsyes: haw far does it load?
[04:25] <Maheanuu> what happens when you try to boot from battery only?
[04:25] <oidia> how*
[04:25] <chable> anyone can tell me whats the best partition choice if i want to install ubuntu desktop
[04:25] <matsyes> it goes to sda6 and marks it as clean then just stops loading
[04:25] <johns^> chable: /, /home and swap
[04:25] <nelsonuwp> !dvd
[04:25] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:25] <oidia> matsyes: if you start in "failsafe" (text)
[04:25] <oidia> ?
[04:26] <Jimmey> Anyone know a good, lightweight file browser that's not Nautilus?
[04:26] <unimatrix9> chable any free partition will do , just dont use the windows one if you like to keep it..
[04:26] <chable> johns^, so i will choose manual partitioning
[04:26] <BULLE> Jimmey: konqueror ? =)
[04:26] <alecjw> Jimmey: thuinar. it's included in xubuntu
[04:26] <chable> unimatrix9 :)
[04:26] <alecjw> *thunar
[04:26] <chable> i have an empty hdd
[04:26] <matsyes> Maheanuu:it just stops at sd6 after marking it clean
[04:26] <johns^> chable: you could
[04:26] <chable> and if i choose 'erase entire disk" , i dont have those 8 mbuffer anymore
[04:26] <HawkeV> rox-filer
[04:27] <johns^> chable: a seperate /home is important
[04:27] <unimatrix9> whats the type of the vaio?
[04:27] <HawkeV> konqueror isn't lightweight at all =P
[04:27] <chable> johns^, what size should / be ?
[04:27] <adaptr> chable: how big is the HD ?
[04:27] <matsyes> oldia:if i start in failsafe the "recovery mode"...it yet doesnt work
[04:27] <johns^> chable: one moment
[04:28] <alecjw> Jimmey: for graphical ones: thunar, gnome-commander or rox. if you don't want a grpahical one, midnight-commander.
[04:28] <Maheanuu> matsyes is that viao only set up for linux or is it partitioned also for windoze?
[04:28] <oidia> matsyes: what moddel is it?
[04:28] <oidia> modell*
[04:28] <koyo001> how do i uncheck universe
[04:28] <matsyes> maheanuu:its partioned
[04:28] <koyo001> anyone
[04:28] <johns^> chable: mine is 6,5 GB with tons of stuff installed (including a ltsp root for my network) and I've got 1GB left
[04:28] <matsyes> windows was the first one installed
[04:29] <oidia> matsyes: exaktly what is the modell of the vaio?
[04:29] <chable> adaptr, 80 gb
[04:29] <alecjw> koyo001: in ubuntu (not k/xubuntu), system>>admin>>software sources and uncyheck universe
[04:29] <unimatrix9> gvie some more details on the model of the vaio
[04:29] <adaptr> chable: all for Ubuntu ?
[04:29] <chable> yes
[04:29] <matsyes> the model is pCG-6n6p
[04:29] <e\ectro_> is there a way to speed up NFS mounting in ubuntu?/
[04:29] <adaptr> chable: /: 8 GB, /home: everything else
[04:29] <e\ectro_> for some reason, it takes 40-60 seconds to mount an NFS share
[04:30] <lorenzo_> ragazz
[04:30] <koyo001> alecjw: gonna try that
[04:30] <HawkeV> e\ectro_, is portmap running?
[04:30] <johns^> adaptr: don't forget swap :)
[04:30] <chable> thank you
[04:30] <lorenzo_> mi date unamano?
[04:30] <chable> do i need those 8 mbuffer too ?
[04:30] <adaptr> chable: if you intend to experiment or add more linuxen later, set up a separate /boot of about 100MB
[04:30] <johns^> e\ectro_: install portmap
[04:30] <adaptr> johns^: swap ? who uses swap these days :)
[04:30] <e\ectro_> johns^: /etc/init.d/portmap ?
[04:30] <chable> so i dont need swap ?
[04:30] <HawkeV> /etc/init.d/portmap restart
[04:31] <LDZ420> what is the file name that list the repositories for apt-get?
[04:31] <HawkeV> then remount
[04:31] <e\ectro_> wasnt installed by default
[04:31] <e\ectro_> wow
[04:31] <johns^> e\ectro_: allready installed? then it could be some nameresolving issue
[04:31] <HawkeV> portmap isn't necessarily needed with nfs
[04:31] <klaus> does nobody know how to use autofs to work correctly ?
[04:31] <johns^> chable: you do need swap
[04:31] <HawkeV> it does speed things up tho
[04:31] <mnoir> adaptr: who uses swap?  Folks who do not want their system dieing unexpectedly due to a memory leak
[04:31] <e\ectro_> johns^: it was portmap, wasnt installed by default
[04:31] <johns^> e\ectro_: I know :)
[04:31] <e\ectro_> I havent been impressed with the ubuntu 64 bit release though
[04:32] <e\ectro_> its plagued with a few issues still, but 32 bit version just plain rox
[04:32] <chable> i thought that
[04:32] <chable> ok
[04:32] <chable> i will get out and install
[04:32] <e\ectro_> 64 bit on every distro is quirky though
[04:32] <LDZ420> apt-get list and someone send me a link on ubuntu's repository
[04:32] <chable> laters
[04:32] <johns^> chable: have fun
[04:32] <koyo001> alecjw: software source i have software properties
[04:32] <chable> thanks for nowe
[04:32] <chable> now even
[04:32] <chable> ./quit
[04:33] <matsyes> its the vgn-sz series with duo core 2ghz processor
[04:33] <adaptr> mnoir: your system won't die because of a memory leak.. it will just start killing processes
[04:33] <koyo001> alecjw: software source i have software properties
[04:33] <Jimmey> How can I rename a folder through a terminal
[04:33] <HawkeV> mv oldname newname
[04:34] <phr34ck> When I write: sudo apt-get install fakeroot, it fetches it from the dvd, I don't want that. How can I make it fetch from the Internet ?
[04:34] <koyo001> alecjw: and in there there is no universe
[04:34] <J-_> How do I execute a python script in the terminal?
[04:34] <johns^> phr34ck: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:34] <Jimmey> phr34ck, comment out the "CDROM" line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:34] <Jimmey> J-_: python nameof.py
[04:34] <johns^> what Jimmey said :)
[04:34] <J-_> thanks
[04:34] <phr34ck> Kay, thanks.
[04:34] <ikonia> in #fedora
[04:35] <matsyes> ummmm any answers ...suggestions????
[04:35] <ikonia> whats up
[04:35] <Jowi> Jimmey, mv oldfilename newfilename
[04:35] <unimatrix9> there is not much info on your viao, so i guess you are the first
[04:35] <koyo001> ok think i got it
[04:35] <adaptr> mnoir: well, the oom-killer will properly log what it's doing
[04:35] <jannu1> perkele
[04:35] <phr34ck> then I do: sudo apt-get upgrade, yes ?
[04:36] <phr34ck> or is it update?
[04:36] <matsyes> ummm ikonia were u asking me????
[04:36] <ikonia> yes
[04:36] <unimatrix9> maybe there is an option in bios that will help, but i am not sure about that ( vaio )
[04:36] <ikonia> I missed your question
[04:36] <matsyes> oh ok
[04:36] <matsyes> just a sec
[04:36] <matsyes> i have a vaio and i installed ubuntu edgy eft on it ..but the wierdest things happening ...it works fine when i connect the ac voltage but not when i start it from battery ..however if i start it using ac it works fine and then when i switch to battery it continues to run ...
[04:37] <unimatrix9> reading the viao bios pdf right now to see
[04:37] <sukarn> I disabled acpi apic support in BIOS, and then X would not start. nvidia seemed to be unable to fine a device.
[04:37] <matsyes> unimatrix9 :i dont follow exactly
[04:37] <ikonia> matsyes: what works fine when you are using ac power ?
[04:37] <Jowi> matsyes, does it die or hangs at a precise moment?
[04:37] <mnoir> adaptr: I agree that you are free to not use swap.  before deciding not to take advantage of very cheap insurance, ya might want to google 'need swap in linux?'  and read some technical opinions  :)
[04:37] <matsyes> ubuntu boots up properly
[04:38] <matsyes> Jowi:hangs at that precise moment
[04:38] <adaptr> mnoir: what technical opinions ? I never said I don't want or use swap.. boy you're easy to bait :)
[04:38] <HawkeV> bll
[04:38] <matsyes> are there any other details that i could provide ????
[04:39] <Jowi> matsyes, when does it hang?
[04:39] <matsyes> it does checks on the sda partitions (sata disc) and hangs when it marks sda6 has clean
[04:39] <sukarn> adaptr, LameBMX - do you think I need to disable acpi apic support in BIOS?
[04:39] <s6o> hi, somebody help me to change the f@#$%ing default runlevel please - ubuntu 6.10
[04:39] <mnoir> adaptr: naa - just adding to the general discussion.  I am one of those old fashioned types who prises reliability and, therefore, uses swap, anti virus, multiple firewalls, etc.  Of course - the icestorm poweroutage just got me anyway :)
[04:40] <jasin> hi
[04:40] <adaptr> sukarn: to achieve what ?
[04:40] <matsyes> when i did the recovery mode it once gave me a graphical prob
[04:40] <Jowi> matsyes, and this only when booting on battery?
[04:40] <matsyes> but with ac power theres no prob
[04:40] <sukarn> you forgot the raid discussion we were having a while ago?
[04:40] <s6o> i am going nuts here since tehre's no /etc/inittab
[04:40] <matsyes> yup only with battery
[04:40] <s6o> anybody ?
[04:40] <roflarn> what should i write to get /home/roflarn back to its original permissions? i managed to fuck up something with chmod :|
[04:40] <sukarn> adaptr: you forgot the raid discussion we were having a while ago?
[04:40] <Jowi> matsyes, do you have this problem booting any other operating system or live cd on battery?
[04:40] <PriceChild> !language | roflarn
[04:40] <ubotu> roflarn: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:40] <jasin> How do I stop these menus from scrolling?
[04:40] <roflarn> eh
[04:41] <kemik> ubotu is a wee bit oversensitive
[04:41] <roflarn> sorry for speaking english
[04:41] <kraut> moin
[04:41] <jasin> ubotu??
[04:41] <kemik> jasin!?!!?!?1
[04:41] <adaptr> sukarn: well, discussion is a big word.. but yeah, so what is making you suspect ACPI ?
[04:41] <jasin> kemik, no answer?
[04:41] <matsyes> jowi:i havent tried live cd but no probs with windows
[04:41] <donald> im using edgy and libdvdread keeps giving me these errors:  Zero check failed in ifo_read.c. this happens in mplayer, vobcopy, dvd-rip, dvdbackup, and any other program that uses libdvdread, EXCEPT gxine
[04:42] <kemik> it's a bot
[04:42] <hipertracker> where is any searcher for ubuntu 6.06 packages? i do not remember url..
[04:42] <jasin> acpi is bugy in ubuntu
[04:42] <LameBMX> sukarn, they are always worth a try
[04:42] <jasin> kemik, me a bot? lol
[04:42] <hipertracker> & main homesite is not helpfull @ all
[04:42] <Jowi> matsyes, is the sata drive internal or external?
[04:42] <kemik> jasin: no "IT" as in "ubotu"
[04:42] <sukarn> adaptr: a while ago someone said that i should not have raid enabled in BIOS
[04:42] <Maheanuu> sukarn, I disabled it on mine, and haven't had a hang since
[04:42] <jasin> kemik, huh?
[04:42] <matsyes> jowi:sata drive is internal
[04:43] <kemik> ...
[04:43] <sukarn> maheanuu: but x fails to start when I disable acpi apic support
[04:43] <jasin> Maheanuu, you disabled acpi?
[04:43] <LameBMX> sukarn, that should make no difference .. is you set the controller to pata mode you will have them appear to be ide drives .. hda instead of sda
[04:43] <Maheanuu> jasin, yes
[04:43] <mnoir> LameBMX: does that change performance?
[04:43] <jasin> I have had lots of trouble with acpi apic apm too
[04:44] <LameBMX> dk
[04:44] <adaptr> sukarn: that depends on what you want to do, and whether the RAID controller is supported well (or at all) in the Linux kernel
[04:44] <LameBMX> i know the standard is susposed to be a max of 6 ide devices
[04:44] <jasin> I wish someone would post a acpi bug report on launchpad
[04:44] <adaptr> sukarn: if it is not well supported then you definitely want to get it out of the way, yes
[04:44] <matsyes> when i do recovery boot ..then i have no probs it comes to the command prompt
[04:44] <LameBMX> so it could limit (windows standard from A+ junk)
[04:44] <donald> anyone familiar with libdvdread errors?
[04:44] <xtknight> donald: yeah ive debugged those before
[04:44] <lord_ceiphas> how do i enable the virtual consoles tty1-tty6?
[04:45] <phr34ck> From where I can download codecs for Ubuntu ?
[04:45] <jasin> donald, not me, sorry.
[04:45] <donald> k, im getting this:  Zero check failed in ifo_read.c
[04:45] <roflarn> anyone here knows how to restore /home/roflarn permissions to default?
[04:45] <mnoir> lord_ceiphas: they should be there already
[04:45] <lord_ceiphas> so that if i hit ctrl-alt-f1 i get a console?
[04:45] <jbroome> lord_ceiphas: control alt F1 through F6
[04:45] <xtknight> donald: uhhh u need DeCSS
[04:45] <phr34ck> I need codecs to play .mpg .mpeg and the like.
[04:45] <sukarn> adaptr: then i have to figure out how to get x working without acpi apic in BIOS
[04:45] <phr34ck> !codecs
[04:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:45] <donald> xtknight, i got it. twice, 2 diff versions and same thing
[04:45] <jasin> .c is a source code, something programed in the c programing language
[04:45] <lord_ceiphas> brings up a black screen with one single corsor-line in the middle
[04:45] <LameBMX> sukarn, at the grub boot screen ...
[04:45] <xtknight> donald: try rebooting?  i dont know why it is is needed but that fixed it for me
[04:45] <LameBMX> hit f6 ( or e if its installed)
[04:46] <xtknight> probably restarts some service that i dont know the name of
[04:46] <sukarn> adaptr: i tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-image-`uname -r`, but that didn't work
[04:46] <LameBMX> and add noapic nolapic to the string
[04:46] <donald> xtknight, the error happens in mplayer, dvd-rip, vobcopy, dvdbackup, but not in gxine, where dvd playback is perfect
[04:46] <unimatrix9> matsyes : there are two things you could try ( later , if no one gives you an better advice ) first boot from the ubuntu install cdrom, its also an live cd, see if it hangs too on battery mode , second boot the vaio, press F2 you go into your bios, be carefull what you do here, go to Boot, and make sure the boot from usb is not as first boot device...
[04:46] <LameBMX> sukarn, is this installed or livecd
[04:46] <jasin> I had big time trouble with acpi and apm in kde, I now use gnome.
[04:46] <xtknight> donald: sure xgine uses libdvdread?
[04:46] <lord_ceiphas> jbroome: mnoir: this only brings up a black screen
[04:46] <donald> xtknight, i have restarted about 10 times in the 2 days ive had this problem
[04:46] <adaptr> sukarn: "didn't work" tells me nothing
[04:46] <Jowi> matsyes, that is strange indeed. normally a laptop can hang during boot if it does not get enough juice from the battery. this usually happen when the drives/cd/dvd spins up and there is a power spike. it seems, from your description, to be the case, however it only happen on the drive check on an internal sata which doesn't need much power. I would suggest that you skip the drivecheck when on battery. don't know if you got yourself a b
[04:46] <Jowi> ad battery or not.
[04:46] <mnoir> lord_ceiphas: for all 1-6?
[04:46] <lord_ceiphas> mnoir: yes
[04:46] <sukarn> LameBMX: which one? the initrd line or the one before that? its installed
[04:46] <mnoir> what happens when you press return?
[04:46] <donald> xtknight, i assume so. or does xine have something that does it?
[04:47] <sukarn> adaptr: I mean i still could not start x after a reboot
[04:47] <lord_ceiphas> mnoir: if i do this often, my x-xerver crashes
[04:47] <LameBMX> no the grub screen
[04:47] <matsyes> ok unimatrix9 i'll try it
[04:47] <jasin> It would detect the laptop lid is closed when its not and the system was set to shut down when laptop lid is closed, I could never stay in kde.
[04:47] <LameBMX> when you select your boot type .. hit e
[04:47] <mnoir> lord_ceiphas: hmm - odd
[04:47] <jasin> very frustrating
[04:47] <xtknight> donald: try running gxine from the terminal, it should print to output and give you some clues as to what libraries its using
[04:47] <LameBMX> goto second line .. the long one with hernal and junk
[04:47] <lord_ceiphas> mnoir: if i hit return, i go to a new blank line (the cursor moves down)
[04:47] <donald> xtknight, wait gxine does, because is till get this: libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c but no crash
[04:47] <sukarn> LameBMX: ok, thanks. i'll try that now
[04:47] <LameBMX> where you can remove quiet and splash ... put noapic and nolapic
[04:47] <LameBMX> good luck
[04:47] <sukarn> LameBMX: bye
[04:48] <Jowi> matsyes, do you have any external devices connected? if so try to disconnect them to see if that helps
[04:48] <donald> xtknight, thats where im getting my output, ive been running everything in terminal
[04:48] <adaptr> sukarn: waay to coarse-grained.. you need to start doing steps one at a time, verify them, and see if they correspond to expected results
[04:48] <mnoir> if you go to a terminal and type ps auxwww|grep tty    what do you get - anything?
[04:48] <LameBMX> that hasnt helped my boot issues though lol
[04:48] <xtknight> donald: does the whole dvd play without issue or does just the first part work?  cuz i got that error and only the very first portion would play in SOME players, and in those few players it has then crashed so in effect nothing worked
[04:48] <jasin> yeah, you can do the noapic in grub.lst
[04:48] <matsyes> jowi: i infact thought its a bad battery and therefore charged it fully and then tried it no change
[04:48] <lord_ceiphas> maybe it has something to do with my self-build kernel and nvidia-module, but with the bad 2.6.17 linux wont run on my system (ever heard of the famous jmicron-bug)
[04:48] <LameBMX> yea .. might as well test first .. if it works change grub.lst
[04:49] <matsyes> jowi: i disconected all external drives
[04:49] <jasin> when I complie kernel 2.6.19.1 I get a acpi error message from grub.
[04:49] <mnoir> lord_ceiphas: maybe - i forgot where ttys are configged
[04:49] <donald> xtknight, in gxine the whole thing plays. but in mplayer only the intro before it freezes, then with vobcopy and dvdbackup, it only copies the first 15mb of the file before freezing, same error
[04:49] <jasin> I wont try compiling that kernel again
[04:49] <lord_ceiphas> mnoir: in the character devices-menu there is no tty
[04:49] <unimatrix9> maybe some one could tell matsyes how to boot with kernel options on battery like no apic, or no acpi ( i kind of forgot how to )
[04:49] <mnoir> hmm
[04:49] <donald> xtknight, i checked the files vobcopy and dvdbackup made, and they stop only a LITTLE bit further than mplayer got
[04:50] <Jowi> matsyes, can still be bad even when fully charged if it does not provide enough output to power your drive during check. i suspect this since it works on AC
[04:50] <xtknight> donald: hmm, i dont know.  i eventually got mine to operate after continuously googling, unfortunately that's all i can suggest.  i dont remember if my error was the same though
[04:50] <mnoir> but xterms work?
[04:50] <lord_ceiphas> mnoir: maybe ill try the 2.6.18 again... that major bug should be corrected there, too
[04:50] <Jowi> !laptop-mode
[04:50] <ubotu> laptop-mode: laptop-mode aims to reduce the power consumption of laptops. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 88 kB
[04:50] <mnoir> lord_ceiphas: maybe...
[04:50] <phr34ck> Hey, I'm having this error whenever I try to launch Synaptic: "another package manager like apt-get is already running .... "
[04:50] <unimatrix9> if on ac, you can also check the battery state with ubuntu
[04:50] <jasin> lord, stable is 2.16.19.1
[04:50] <matsyes> jowi: ok cool i'll consider that then
[04:50] <donald> xtknight, alright. ill try with another dvd later, and if that doesnt work maybe i cant find something in forums or get back on here later, thanks
[04:50] <xtknight> donald: are there any errors before that?  like ones dealing with chapters
[04:50] <phr34ck> eventhough I don't have them running ./.. what should I do ?
[04:51] <Core> klfdsgklfd
[04:51] <donald> xtknight, let me check...
[04:51] <lord_ceiphas> the 2.6.17 does not work together with the jmicron-pata-controller, that manages ide-atapi-devices on all core2dou-boards
[04:51] <Core> sorry
[04:51] <Core> I'm newbie on IRC
[04:51] <Jowi> matsyes, did you install "laptop-mode" to see if that helps? it has got some power managment for laptop drives in it.
[04:51] <xtknight> lord_ceiphas: Jmicron problems?  now im famiilar with those ;)
[04:51] <Core> but i think here i can get help
[04:51] <jasin> I really wish torvald or the folks over at ubuntu would fix the whole acpi, apm, acip stuff
[04:51] <matsyes> unimatrix9:thats the thing windows doesnt have a problem and once on the battery yhing doesnt matter
[04:51] <lord_ceiphas> jasin: but 2.6.19.1 brings up some strange errors
[04:51] <phr34ck> Hey, I'm having this error whenever I try to launch Synaptic: "another package manager like apt-get is already running .... "
[04:51] <jasin> lord, only if you config it funny
[04:51] <mnoir> phr34ck: you can use the fuser command to discover who is using
[04:52] <Core> Anderson????????????????????
[04:52] <Core> Brazillian????????
[04:52] <unimatrix9> ok
[04:52] <lord_ceiphas> xtknight: i disabled my whole usb-controller so i could install
[04:52] <Rope> Hi, i instelled windows, and recovered my GRUB, my windows partition is on hda2. My linux on hda3. In grub it says linux is hd0,2  how do i know wich one is Windows?
[04:52] <xtknight> lord_ceiphas: like disabled usb mouse and usb keyboard in bios?
[04:52] <phr34ck> mnoir, how do I use that ?
[04:52] <jasin> lord, use yoru old config file dont do the make menuconfig thingny
[04:52] <matsyes> jowi : i can try the laptop mode in fact i ws thinking if theres no soln i would do just that ... tho i'll try unimatrix 9's idea before doing that
[04:52] <xtknight> lord_ceiphas: i heard that was one fix , but i didnt have to disable my usb.  i had to install from a usb cdrom
[04:52] <donald> xtknight, another thing: when i run vobcopy or dvdbackup, it will copy the entire 695mb menu file, but freezes at 15mb when it gets to the feature: VTS_01_1.VOB
[04:52] <Core> Brasileiro cara?
[04:52] <phr34ck> and something is wrong, my processor is running at full speed ....
[04:53] <lord_ceiphas> xtknight: in my bios i only can disable usb completely
[04:53] <mnoir> phr34ck: type man fuser - complete instructions will appear as if magic :)
[04:53] <Li`lEndian> is anyone else experiencing huge-lag times on freenode?
[04:53] <xtknight> lord_ceiphas: :what motherboard?
[04:53] <lord_ceiphas> xtknight: abit ab9pro
[04:53] <donald> xtknight, no errors at the beginning as far as i can tell. ive seen other people complain on forums but no solutions. so it may be a bug, or this particular dvd.
[04:53] <xtknight> donald: paste the whole error output into pastebin, ill see if i recognize any of the errors, i recall getting the ifo_read one but also another and i cant remember which one i was able to fix
[04:53] <mnoir> phr34ck: sounds like something is running away - use top to see
[04:53] <Core> Does soemone can help me?
[04:54] <mnoir> !ask
[04:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:54] <donald> xtknight, pastebin? lol
[04:54] <sukarn> adaptr, LameBMX, disabling acpi apic in BIOS has made everything faster. But do I always have to use noapic nolapic in the boot line?
[04:54] <lord_ceiphas> Core: whats your problem?
[04:54] <phr34ck> ahh
[04:54] <xtknight> donald: ya URL is in the Channel topic
[04:54] <phr34ck> apt-get is running
[04:54] <xtknight> donald: irc lags when u paste over 3 lines at a time
[04:54] <Core> I have a very improved machine and Ubuntu seems don't be able to handle with it
[04:54] <mnoir> phr34ck: :)
[04:54] <Core> I'm running Kurumim instead
[04:54] <phr34ck> sudo top to kill it ?
[04:54] <xtknight> lord_ceiphas: so have u gotten ubuntu installed?  dapper/edgy?  hows its it working on the C2d?
[04:54] <lord_ceiphas> Core:  maybe a core2duo with a jmicron-chipset?
[04:54] <matsyes> ok thanks a lot for ur time and help though really appreciate the effort i'll have a go and give it a try
[04:55] <phr34ck> but why is it running
[04:55] <donald> xtknight, yeah i knew u couldnt paste in the channel. just havent been around long enough to know about pastebin
[04:55] <phr34ck> ?
[04:55] <Core> My machine is:
[04:55] <mnoir> phr34ck: naa - use kill or killall if you cannot find it in a terminal
[04:55] <matsyes> if it works later i'll tell you
[04:55] <sukarn> adaptr, LameBMX: disabling acpi apic in BIOS has made everything faster. But do I always have to use noapic nolapic in the boot line? (my previous message seemed to have been damaged somehow)
[04:55] <Jowi> Rope, "sudo fdisk -l"  should give you an idea. hd0,0 is /dev/hda1 and hd0,2 is /dev/hda3
[04:55] <lord_ceiphas> xtknight: works fine... just running it, but to get your usb back you have to make your own kernel... and thats a bit ugly here atm
[04:55] <unimatrix9> good luck matsyes
[04:56] <Core> Core 2 Duo E6300, mobo Intel DD946GZis, HD SATA2 160GB, DDR2 533MHz 1GB Kingstom
[04:56] <jasin> ubuntu just released a kernel patch -- I guess there was some sorta security issue, its version #  2.6.17.1-10.34
[04:56] <Rope> Jowi: Thanks
[04:56] <xtknight> lord_ceiphas: realy? is there some c2d usb patch or something?
[04:56] <matsyes> thanks unimatrix9 :)
[04:56] <jannu1> any idea how i can remove shortcuts (link to folder) at my desktop?
[04:56] <lord_ceiphas> Core: is a jmicron-controller on this board? if yes try to disable usb for installing
[04:56] <jasin> you can get it off of synaptics or with apt-get
[04:57] <matsyes> and thanks jowi
[04:57] <floppyears> hi
[04:57] <Jowi> np matsyes
[04:57] <Core> people how do I use IRC???
[04:57] <zOap> how do I mount a ftp server ? Do I need a kernel module?
[04:57] <jasin> janni=u1, what shortcut you want to remove?
[04:57] <Core> it's so confusing
[04:57] <lord_ceiphas> xtknight: no the fix was made in 2.6.28 kernel as long as you use a higher kernel, you can use your usb, blew makes problems
[04:57] <floppyears> does anybody here know how can I hook up a mac book pro laptop and an ubuntu machine over an ethernet cable to share files ?
[04:57] <Jowi> Core, you're using it now
[04:57] <LinTux> My menu's seem to be coming up slow, I have rebooted, anybody got any ideas?
[04:57] <xtknight> Core: just for reference heres your mobo specs http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/D946GZIS/index.htm
[04:58] <jannu1> jasin Link targe: /media/e
[04:58] <jbroome> !IRC | Core
[04:58] <ubotu> Core: irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[04:58] <Core> does someone have had trouble with SATA2 or DDR2 or C2D with Ubuntu????????????????
[04:58] <sukarn> Core: you're using it right now. user names toward the right, message box in centre and servers/channels on the left. At least thats how it is in XChat
[04:58] <lord_ceiphas> thats the cause the ubuntu-users with new boards are so angry because nobody just upgrades ubuntu /kubuntu.. to 2.6.18 and you have to be good to get this working
[04:58] <xtknight> Core: lots of people do.  you're doing fine on IRC by the way, just talk like you are now ,that's all irc is anyway ;)
[04:59] <xtknight> lord_ceiphas: so you
[04:59] <donald> xtknight, do you need the url to the paste now?
[04:59] <xtknight> lord_ceiphas: so you're using an old kernel now?
[04:59] <xtknight> donald: sure
[04:59] <Anderson> How do I go about getting the information I need about my touchscreen to set up drivers
[04:59] <donald> xtknight, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/120/
[04:59] <ceacro> hi
[04:59] <Anderson> hi
[04:59] <jasin> jannu1, have you tried ussing the gconf-editor ? Open that up and goto apps / natulis / desktop
[04:59] <Core> --- xtknight --- : I've seen the specs
[04:59] <lord_ceiphas> xtknight: no, i run 2.6.19.1 but that makes problems with my x-server
[04:59] <ceacro> Happy new year 2007
[04:59] <Core> --- xtknight --- : but don't know what to do
[04:59] <kemik> !wep
[04:59] <Anderson> Happy New Year
[04:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:59] <Anderson> !touchscreen
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <jasin> jannu1, thats how I add and delete stuff from the desktop in gnome.
[05:00] <Anderson> !touch-screen
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touch-screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <Anderson> !touch screen
[05:00] <Maheanuu> Core, I am using SATA II 2gigs of ddr2 ram, and 5 320gig maxtors raid5 and 1 400gig seagate Sata II boot drive
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touch screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <Anderson> !touch panel
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touch panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <apokryphos> !botabuse | Maheanuu
[05:00] <ubotu> Maheanuu: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:01] <Core> --- Maheannu --- : what's your Ubuntu's version?
[05:01] <xtknight> donald: it may be the particular dvd i guess
[05:01] <jannu1> jasin thx ill try
[05:01] <Core> --- Maheannu --- : mine is 6.06
[05:01] <Anderson> Anyone have any advice on touchscreen setup?
[05:01] <emacla> I hvae forgot the command to remove a directory and all what's in it. WHich command is it?
[05:01] <Core> --- Maheannu --- : i can't get 6.10 now to test
[05:01] <xtknight> lord_ceiphas: problems with x server?  very odd...u dont mean proprietary nvidia/ati drivers right?
[05:01] <donald> xtknight, yeah, its complaining about video packets, but when i use cache it still messes up. it doesnt crash, but i have to kill mplayer after it freezes.
[05:01] <Maheanuu> Core I am running Dapper 6.06.1 and the AMD 64 Alternate
[05:01] <sukarn> emacla: rm -r [directory] 
[05:01] <lord_ceiphas> Maheanuu: the problem is with the 2.6.17 kernel and core2duo-boards...
[05:02] <xtknight> Core: does your board have a jmicron controller?
[05:02] <jasin> okay, good luck
[05:02] <Maheanuu> I am staying away from 6.10 for the time being
[05:02] <lord_ceiphas> Core:try to disable your usb mouse and keyboard (better, the whole usb) in bios...
[05:02] <defend> i love edgy
[05:02] <Maheanuu> No, I am running a MSI with AMD64 proc
[05:03] <ubuntu__> hi
[05:03] <xtknight> to get edgy installed on my c2d i had to install dapper off a usb cd-rom drive and then dist-upgrade because my IDE cd/dvd drives were't detected..fortuntately all my HDs are sata
[05:03] <donald> xtknight, could it be the a52 format?
[05:03] <Francis_Albert> hi
[05:03] <lord_ceiphas> Maheanuu: without the 2.6.18 kernel linux is not very handsome for c2d-board... many bugs
[05:03] <Francis_Albert> how are you ?
[05:03] <xtknight> donald: i think it's just saying that because a52 is trying to decode corrupted info
[05:03] <Francis_Albert> Please?
[05:03] <jasin> If you are ussing legacy use support in the bios it can create problems, its a well documented issue.
[05:04] <jasin> If you are ussing legacy usb support in the bios it can create problems, its a well documented issue.
[05:04] <xtknight> was anyone able to install Feisty on their Core 2 Duo?  I just got errors in both the GUI and alternate installers but feisty livecd booted fine
[05:04] <lord_ceiphas> xtknight: i have no tty1-6 and sometimes my x-server crashes completely without a chance to get logs
[05:04] <jasin> disabled legacy usb support
[05:04] <donald> xtknight, alright. im still guessing its libdvdread then. ill try another dvd later, thanks
[05:05] <matsyes> unimatrix9,Jowi:the wierdest thing happened i kept booting it a couple of times thru ac and now it just booted thru battery i have no idea whats going on but its working tho i thing i'll yet give it some time to see if this is a permanent change for the better :) or maybe go for a complete reinstall anyway
[05:05] <lord_ceiphas> jasin, with c2d-boards you often have to disable usb completely (but only for kernel 2.6.17 and below
[05:05] <xtknight> well i needed legacy usb support for my usb cdrom yet it worked fine for me, i dont know
[05:05] <unimatrix9> thats odd indeed
[05:05] <Maheanuu> lord, how do I determine my kernal version?
[05:06] <lord_ceiphas> uname -r
[05:06] <Anderson> Anyone have any advice on touchscreen setup?
[05:06] <unimatrix9> keep an eye on that battery....
[05:06] <matsyes> unimatrix9 :tell me about it but i'm happy its working for now tho i'll try to figure out whats going on
[05:06] <jasin> lord, ok
[05:06] <jasin> yeah, uname -r gives the kernel version
[05:06] <matsyes> unimatrix9:i'll be keeping an eye on it :)
[05:06] <jannu1> jasin i cant find shortcuts here
[05:07] <lord_ceiphas> and ubuntu is delivered with kernel 2.6.17 what makes it nearly impossible for newbies (ubuntu is the distro made for them) to get it running....
[05:07] <floppyears> anybody who can help me with my ubuntu and mac question ?
[05:08] <apokryphos> !anyone
[05:08] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:08] <lord_ceiphas> at least if the newbies have a core2duo
[05:08] <jannu1> no prob anymore
[05:08] <jasin> uname -a gives you more info, like if the kernel is 386 or 686 and when it was installed
[05:08] <lord_ceiphas> jasin: who cares ;-)
[05:08] <xtknight> jasin: i believe it says when the kernel was compiled
[05:09] <e\ectro_> for some reason my nvidia card booted into X windows but the screen is black
[05:09] <e\ectro_> has anyone had this experience?/
[05:09] <jasin> xtknight, just say .. no need to get upset
[05:09] <jasin> xtknight, just sayin .. no need to get upset
[05:09] <lord_ceiphas> ectro, tried to switch to tty4 and back to tty7?
[05:09] <floppyears> apokryphos: nice bot !
[05:09] <unimatrix9> matsyes , type acpi -t in console
[05:10] <xtknight> lol
[05:10] <jasin> lord, I do :p
[05:10] <floppyears> how can I connect a mac os x and ubuntu directly over ethernet cable to share files ?
[05:10] <wvrlinux> where can i download JASS voor UBUNTU
[05:10] <lord_ceiphas> floppyears: plug in the crosslink-cable and use ftp/smb/http or anything else
[05:11] <BrianB04> I have a quick x.org question, but since I run Ubuntu, figured I would ask in here: How painless is it to setup widescreen monitors in Ubuntus x.org?
[05:11] <Core> i'm using X-Chat at Kurumim
[05:11] <Core> How do I make to talk to a specific person?
[05:11] <xtknight> BrianB04: not that hard, im running one right now
[05:11] <floppyears> thanks lord_ceiphas
[05:11] <lord_ceiphas> floppyears: but you have to set the ips manually to the same subnet but the last number has to be another
[05:11] <apokryphos> !msg | Core
[05:11] <ubotu> Core: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[05:11] <Core> when someone talk to me the nick highlights
[05:12] <apokryphos> !tab | core
[05:12] <ubotu> core: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[05:12] <unimatrix9> !acpi
[05:12] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[05:12] <lord_ceiphas> Core: type the name ant hit tab
[05:12] <BrianB04> xtknight: So you just have to set it up as another resolution and it will work? I didn't know how well x.org handles 'non-standard' resolutions
[05:12] <emacla> How do i create a dir with the terminal?
[05:12] <Lynoure> wvrlinux: What is JASS? (Other than Journal of Applied Systems Studies)
[05:12] <xtknight> Brianb04: pretty much so, i think even vesa will allow 1680x1050, but i use the nvidia driver personally and it works great
[05:12] <lord_ceiphas> emacla: mkdir
[05:13] <BrianB04> xtknight: Very cool. I'm looking at 19 inchers, so 1280x...900 I think would be native.
[05:13] <Anderson> Anyone have any advice on touchscreen setup?
[05:13] <xtknight> brainb04: 1440x900 19" widescreen?
[05:13] <Core> sorry people
[05:13] <mnoir> core - is Kurumim a full distrib or just KDE?
[05:13] <BrianB04> xtknight: That's it, nevermind:)
[05:13] <xtknight> brianb04: do u have nvidia/fglrx drivers or are you using default nv/radeon/ati/vesa now?
[05:13] <BrianB04> xtknight: I run the nvidia ones.
[05:13] <Core> !msg | mnoir
[05:13] <ubotu> mnoir: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[05:13] <lord_ceiphas> why widescreen, 1600x1200 see more/get more ;-)
[05:14] <emacla> How do i extract a tar.gz to a dir by the terminal?
[05:14] <BrianB04> xtknight: The default ones are...slow:)
[05:14] <Core> mnoir: Kurumim is the only Linux that has booted on my machine
[05:14] <BrianB04> lord_ceiphas: Because to get 1600x1200 I have to hit at least 20 inch lcds, and those get...costly:) I have a 21 inch crt right now and run 16x12
[05:14] <lord_ceiphas> emacla: tar -xvf (please read some newbie-documents instead of buggering us
[05:14] <jasin> Linux Touch Screen HOWTO http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XFree86-Touch-Screen-HOWTO.html
[05:14] <floppyears> lord_ceiphas: I have smb working right now, and they can connect just fine, but now I want to connect both computers directly with a cable
[05:14] <Core> mnoir: i have a lot of linuxes here
[05:14] <Core> no one works
[05:15] <xtknight> brainb04: yeah, well try `sudo nvidia-xconfig` and let it overwrite your current xorg config.  that always lets me use the native resolution after restarting gdm ( `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart` )
[05:15] <lord_ceiphas> BrianG: i have 1600x1200 on a 19"
[05:15] <lardarse> ok.. does anyone here know where the best place to look is for info about Joysticks in Ubuntu ?
[05:15] <mnoir> Core: so you are asking about it in an ubuntu support group - isn't that a little off topic?
[05:15] <BrianB04> lord_ceiphas: What brand of monitor? I couldn't find a 19" lcd with 16x12 native.
[05:15] <xtknight> lord_ceiphas: crt though, right?
[05:15] <adaptr> Core: no better than having one that doesn't work, then
[05:15] <xtknight> lcds do not exist at 1600x1200 <20"
[05:15] <lord_ceiphas> Core: that has to do with the kernel... 2.6.17 or belo wont work on core2duo boards
[05:16] <Core> I'll explain for all what's happening
[05:16] <lord_ceiphas> of course crt....
[05:16] <Core> so listen
[05:16] <BrianB04> I figure that 19" lcd is close enough to the size of a 21" crt and I hate this huge monitor, takes up too much room, and creates too much heat.
[05:16] <fotoflo_> hey how do i set the default mp3 player in ubuntu?
[05:16] <nn531> linux is killing me here, how do I get mp3 playback
[05:16] <lord_ceiphas> core...
[05:16] <Core> I buyed my PC two days ago
[05:16] <lord_ceiphas> get a linux with a shipped 2.6.18-kernel
[05:16] <xtknight> !mp3
[05:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:16] <fotoflo_> mn531: apt-get install xmmc
[05:17] <Anderson> !toughbook
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about toughbook - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <Core> lord_ceiphas: 2.6.17?
[05:17] <mn3> hey
[05:17] <BrianB04> Core: There's the problem, may be too new of hardware...might not be in Linux yet. Or in Ubuntu at least, the kernels in it.
[05:17] <jasin> nn531, you need an mp3 lib, or easier, just install vlc :p
[05:17] <xtknight> Core: opensuse 10.2 does install on C2D
[05:17] <amicrawler> how do i upgrade to edgy from dapper
[05:17] <Core> what's the one wich come with Ubuntu 6.06?
[05:17] <lord_ceiphas> Core: fedora core6 does install also
[05:17] <xtknight> core: feisty fawn may also work for you
[05:17] <amicrawler> i downloaded the dvd
[05:17] <mn3> jasin can you help me a bit ?
[05:17] <nn531> k  becasue when I do xmmc it doesnt find any packages
[05:17] <lord_ceiphas> dapper drake uses 2.6.17
[05:18] <amicrawler> and i don;t want to loose my home dir
[05:18] <jasin> nn531, use the command sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:18] <nn531> and that's really starting to get annoying
[05:18] <Core> People i'm not undertanding very well
[05:18] <blaa> nolimitsoya: happy new year!!!
[05:18] <xtknight> nn531: it's xmms i think
[05:18] <jasin> nn531, vlc is a media player, it'll do mp3s
[05:18] <blaa>  happy new year!!!
[05:18] <nn531> jasin: couldnt find vlc
[05:18] <nolimitsoya> happy new year blaa :)
[05:18] <mnoir> amicrawler: is home a sep partition?
[05:18] <Core> I want to install something
[05:18] <Core> anything
[05:18] <amicrawler> don;t know
[05:18] <jasin> nn531, did you type the command I gave you?
[05:18] <xtknight> nn531: sudo apt-get install xmms xmms-mad
[05:18] <nn531> yeah
[05:18] <fotoflo_> jasin: yeah but it dosnt do playlists or anything like that that people have come to expect from mp3 pllayers
[05:18] <Core> but currently what I have is some linuxes from months ago
[05:19] <nn531> sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:19] <Core> the newer is Ubuntu 6.06
[05:19] <mnoir> amicrawler: in terminal type df -h and see if there is one line for /home
[05:19] <lord_ceiphas> Core: the kernel is the heart of linux, and the kernel with the number "2.6.17" will not run on core2duo mainboards so you have to get a linux with kernel 2.6.18 or higher
[05:19] <Core> I have debian
[05:19] <jasin> nn531, here's more specific instructions: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html
[05:19] <fotoflo_> Brian: remember, old laptops have old laptop hard drives
[05:19] <BrianB04> fotoflo_: Ick, that I never thought of.
[05:19] <lord_ceiphas> debian is a linux
[05:19] <fotoflo_> BrianB04, so throw out the hard drive that comes with the system you get
[05:19] <nn531> xtknight: no dice, couldnt find package xmms-mad
[05:19] <Anderson> Is there anyone to figure out the Manufacture, and thereby the drivers needed, for my LCD screen?
[05:19] <Core> lord_ceiphas: but the kernel of Ubuntu 6.06 is 2.6.17?
[05:19] <jasin> nn531, do whats stated on that page
[05:19] <nn531> k
[05:20] <xtknight> Core: debian has some kernels that work with core 2 duo http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/
[05:20] <xtknight> Core: rather someone has modified them to work
[05:20] <BrianB04> You know, irssi has been driving me nuts, and I just remembered why, raw config...blah...gotta setup my themes again.
[05:20] <lord_ceiphas> Core: yes... and that is the problem
[05:20] <mnoir> amicrawler: method to save your home will be different depending on answer
[05:20] <adaptr> Core: nope, it's 2.6.15-27
[05:20] <xtknight> nn531: you need to enable all repositories
[05:20] <amicrawler> amicrawler@amicrawler-desktop:~$ df -h
[05:20] <amicrawler> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[05:20] <amicrawler> /dev/hda1             112G   59G   48G  56% /
[05:20] <amicrawler> varrun                125M   96K  125M   1% /var/run
[05:20] <amicrawler> varlock               125M  4.0K  125M   1% /var/lock
[05:20] <amicrawler> udev                  125M  172K  125M   1% /dev
[05:20] <amicrawler> devshm                125M     0  125M   0% /dev/shm
[05:20] <amicrawler> lrm                   125M   18M  107M  15% /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-686/volatile
[05:20] <amicrawler> amicrawler@amicrawler-desktop:~$
[05:20] <amicrawler> that is what i have
[05:20] <mnoir> !flood
[05:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:20] <xtknight> !repositories
[05:20] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:20] <lord_ceiphas> that makes no difference, for core2duo-boards you need kernel 2.6.18 or higher
[05:20] <fotoflo_> BrianB04, i  got a new HP laptop w/ turion x2 1600 with 1gb ram and an 80 gb hd for $550 from bestbuy on black friday
[05:21] <lord_ceiphas> or you have to be REAL good
[05:21] <Core> Many people to answer!!!!!!!
[05:21] <Core> God! Sorry
[05:21] <BrianB04> Just a note: You should /always/ seperate home from /, I like sticking seperate drive in for home.
[05:21] <Core> Well, My Debian stops on the HD detection
[05:21] <Core> With debian the problem is at least SATA
[05:21] <mn3> can someone msg me because i need some help with the ubuntu browser configs....plz
[05:21] <lord_ceiphas> Core: are you listening?
[05:21] <BrianB04> That should be default in the Ubuntu install, not sure why it isn't, and it creates one huge partition for /
[05:21] <adaptr> Oh god yes, and then some...
[05:21] <mnoir> amicrawler: downgrade from 6.10 to 6.06 is not common so it can be very time-consuming and tricky - reinstasll is usually faster
[05:21] <Core> With Turbo Linux too, it seems
[05:22] <lord_ceiphas> CORE!
[05:22] <lord_ceiphas> LISTEN
[05:22] <mnoir> amicrawler: but you weill need to back up home first if you do not want to lose
[05:22] <Core> lord_ceiphas: yes, but another user said the kernel is not
[05:22] <amicrawler> i have dapper want to goto edgy
[05:22] <fotoflo_> Brian: it came with a free printer/scanner/copier and wifi router and 1gb memstick but i had to pay for everything and Ill get like 500 back in rebates
[05:22] <mnoir> oic - you said the other way befre :)
[05:22] <mnoir> !edgy
[05:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[05:22] <adaptr> amicrawler: gksu "update-manager -c" and click on "upgrade"....
[05:23] <Core> lord_ceiphas: adaptr, 2.6.15-27
[05:23] <amicrawler> i hvae the dvd in my drive now
[05:23] <adaptr> amicrawler: it's been running here for the last 2 hours or so.. expect a bit of a wait :)
[05:23] <mnoir> amicrawler: go to that link and follow nice directions
[05:23] <lord_ceiphas> Core:  you will never get a linux running on a core2duo-board if you use a linux with kernel 2.6.17 or lower... so go and find a distro that HAS a higher kernel shipped
[05:23] <donald> xtknight, i just tried mplayer starting on a chapter other than chapter 1 and playback is perfect. im guessing its some kind of copy protection on chapter 1 of the dvd.
[05:23] <adaptr> Core: I know - I told you, and that's what I have running
[05:23] <Core> lord_ceiphas: sorru! I was confused with what adaptr saidx
[05:24] <Core> lord_ceiphas: I'll believe you
[05:24] <adaptr> Core: and Edgy has 2.6.17, so you'll have to take a look at Feisty
[05:24] <Core> lord_ceiphas: I thought the problem was SATA, but is C2D...
[05:24] <fotoflo_> hey does anyone know how i set my default mp3 player in ubuntu?
[05:24] <lord_ceiphas> Core: or disable usb for installing and get youselv a new kernel compiled after instzallation (that was my way)
[05:25] <adaptr> fotoflo_: right-click on an mp3 file, choose properties.. and select open with.. then select a new default
[05:25] <xtknight> i have some core 2 duo kernels here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326343
[05:25] <lord_ceiphas> Core:  it is not SATA and also not C2D its the JMICRON-PATA controller on your board
[05:25] <jasin> foto, just because you dont know how to do playlist in vlc does not mean it wont do playlist
[05:25] <Core> lord_ceiphas: hummmm...
[05:25] <jasin> foto, contro + p, try that
[05:25] <jasin> foto, control + p, try that
[05:26] <Core> lord_ceiphas: disable USB????
[05:26] <fotoflo_> adaptr, thats not an option
[05:26] <Core> the installation will proceed???
[05:26] <donald> xtknight, i got playback to work on chapters other than chapter 1
[05:26] <Core> disable on setup BIOS?
[05:26] <fotoflo_> err ok i see
[05:26] <nn531> xtknight: i need to be connected to the internet to do this
[05:26] <xtknight> donald: yeah , sorry im not sure because mine would only do the intro and then it would just stop
[05:26] <amicrawler> i got the dvd guys not the cd ver
[05:26] <donald> xtknight, same here. copy protection?
[05:26] <Core> adaptr: Edgy? Feisty? Codenames?
[05:27] <adaptr> Core: yes
[05:27] <xtknight> donald: i can't remember what i did to fix it.  but the document on restricted formats on ubuntu wiki + a reboot did it for me.  32bit or 64bit?
[05:27] <fotoflo_> cool that worked
[05:27] <donald> xtknight, 64bit processor, but 32bit ubuntu
[05:27] <amicrawler> xknight
[05:27] <adaptr> Core: release names, actually - dapper was 6.06 (june 2006), edgy is current, 6.10 (october), feisty is next, due out in april or something
[05:27] <Maheanuu> lord_ceiphas, I am running 2.6.15-26-AMD64 generic
[05:27] <xtknight> nn531: yeah..do u not have net now?
[05:27] <Core> and boot options on the CD prompt? No one? Coz there is something regarding USB detection...
[05:27] <jasin> vlc supports .pls and .m3u play lists.
[05:27] <lord_ceiphas> Core: try to disable usb in bios, so maybe the installation will work (it did for me
[05:27] <amicrawler> can i upgrade my sys to edgy from the dvd i downloaded?
[05:27] <xtknight> nn531: youll have to wait til u get net til u can install mp3 support i think
[05:27] <amicrawler> and save my home dir
[05:28] <xtknight> !upgrade
[05:28] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:28] <adaptr> fotoflo_: you're welcome
[05:28] <Core> lord_ceiphas: and boot options on the CD prompt? No one? Coz there is something regarding USB detection...
[05:28] <nn531> xtknight: no, Im on my windows machine and im trying to configure my stuff on mylaptop becasue Im on dialup
[05:28] <fotoflo_> thanks !
[05:28] <lord_ceiphas> core, none
[05:28] <fotoflo_> adaptr,
[05:28] <lord_ceiphas> just hit enter
 it wants a cd not a dvd
[05:28] <xtknight> amicrawler: i dontknow, there's instructions for doing it from cd at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes but i dont know about dvd...
[05:28] <Core> adaptr: so 6.10 doesn't works yet???
[05:28] <floating> how to extract .ace ?
[05:28] <adaptr> amicrawler: don;'t need either - just an Internet connection
[05:28] <adaptr> Core: of course it works - what do you mean ?
[05:28] <Core> adaptr: i have to wait the next release?
[05:29] <adaptr> Core: well, like I said, you can try Feisty now - but it is on serious beta
 how to extract .ace ?   do a unace
[05:29] <adaptr> Core: or try one of xtknight's kernels, if you;ve been paying attention at all
[05:29] <BrianB04> Cool, alright back in business
[05:30] <Core> adaptr: lord_ceiphas said kernel 2.6.17 doesn't works with JMICRON-PATA
[05:30] <floating> how to do an unace? unace command not found
[05:30] <xtknight> nn531: confused...so is downloading a couple debs feasible for you at the moment?
[05:30] <xtknight> nn531: you can download debs at packages.ubuntu.com and install them later
[05:30] <Core> and 6.10 has this kernel? right? or higher?
[05:30] <nn531> xtknight: yeah I bought aportable harddrive the other day
[05:30] <lord_ceiphas> core, i have kubuntu edgy eft (6.10) running on my c2d-system, just disable usb for installing, make a text-install of ubuntu, afterwards get a new kernel and if this kernel runs, enable usb again
[05:31] <adaptr> Core: no he did not - he said repeatedly that 2.6.17 does not work with the core 2 duo
[05:31] <nn531> xtknight: but everytime i try to install something it tries to go to the internet to find stuff
[05:31] <Core> adaptr: and 6.10 has this kernel? right? or higher?
[05:31] <lord_ceiphas> adaptr: i sais JMICRON
[05:31] <xtknight> Core: dapper and edgy do not work properly with jmicron, u must use feisty or fedora core 6 or opensuse 10.2 or find an alternate way of booting dapper since edgy doesnt work with ich8 either
[05:31] <adaptr> lord_ceiphas: well, that's very confusing then
[05:31] <BrianB04> Core: Feisty Fawn will have the newer kernel, Edgy does not.
[05:31] <lord_ceiphas> or c2d-BOARD, because this pata-controller is on nearly EVERY c2d-board
[05:31] <xtknight> nn531: what other installation media do u have
[05:31] <nn531> xtknight: ?\
[05:32] <xtknight> nn531: other than internet?  how else would it install things?
[05:32] <xtknight> nn531: do u have an ubuntu cd, or dvd?
[05:32] <nn531> xtknight: I have the image burned on a cd
[05:32] <xtknight> nn531: im afraid xmms isnt on the cd by default so it must go to the internet
[05:32] <jasin> kind of off topic but did any see that stuff about that broncos player? so sad
[05:33] <nn531> ok
[05:33] <nn531> jasin: what broncos player??
[05:33] <Core> xtknight: so edgy doesn't works in no way but dapper that is older do?
[05:33] <nn531> xtknight: whats the ubuntu site to download the dap files?
[05:34] <xtknight> core: that was the case for me.  but to boot dapper i had to use a usb-cdrom drive instead of my dvd drives hooked up to the jmicron as they would not be detected
[05:34] <Core> --- All People --- : let me see if i undertood
[05:34] <nn531> deb imean
[05:34] <xtknight> nn531: packages.ubuntu.com , select Dapper and search for a package
[05:34] <jasin> Denver Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams
[05:34] <xtknight> nn531: or whatever distro ur using
[05:34] <jasin> he was shot to death, randomly.
[05:34] <nn531> im not using dapper
[05:34] <nn531> oh ok
[05:34] <nn531> i see
[05:35] <Core> I have to wait the next release with a kernel > 2.6.17
[05:35] <xtknight> nn531: i thought a dap package meant u wanted one for dapper ;)
[05:35] <nn531> no im sorry
[05:35] <Core> or find an alternative customized kernel for 6.06 and 6.10
[05:35] <lord_ceiphas> yes for easy way you have to wait
[05:35] <nn531> i got deb confused with dap
[05:35] <Core> --- All People ---: or find an alternative customized kernel for 6.06 and 6.10
[05:35] <xtknight> Core: yes
[05:36] <xtknight> Core: or boot 6.06 using alternate method
[05:36] <jasin> core, yes?
[05:36] <Core> --- All People ---: as those of xtknight
[05:36] <mnoir> nn531: live by the cute name, die by the cute name :)
[05:36] <sc4ttrbrain> anyone want to help me resize my /dev/sda1 ? i cant do it with gparted :(
[05:36] <MasterShrek> sc4ttrbrain is it mounted when youre trying to resize it?
[05:36] <Core> --- All People ---: and to do that I have to install 6.06 and update its kernel
[05:36] <jasin> you must mount sda1 first
[05:36] <nn531> mnoir: i'd say
[05:36] <xtknight> Core: yes
[05:37] <Core> --- All People ---: but to do it I ghave to disable USB on BIOS
[05:37] <sc4ttrbrain> MasterShrek: yes,thats why i cant resize it
[05:37] <xtknight> Core: in some cases.  i did not have to.
[05:37] <MasterShrek> sc4ttrbrain do you have a copy of knoppix?
[05:37] <Anderson> Does ubuntu still support xFree86?
[05:37] <adaptr> !xfree86
[05:37] <xtknight> anderson: sort of, but it's Xorg now
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfree86 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <nn531> xtknight: download xmms and xmms-mad?
[05:37] <MasterShrek> !knoppix
[05:37] <sc4ttrbrain> MasterShrek: i ve live cds but no knoppix
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knoppix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <Core> --- All People ---: my 6.06 stops after the main menu
[05:37] <MasterShrek> sc4ttrbrain any live cd with gparted on it?
[05:37] <adaptr> Core: what is the "main menu"?
[05:38] <xtknight> nn531: yes, u may also have to download dependencies for those if needed, but it should only amount to about 5 packages total at most just for xmms and xmms-mad...i think
[05:38] <floating> i downloaded 2 diffenret subtiltes, another one .ace and another .rar, both I cannot open with unace nor xarchiver, whats up ?
[05:38] <lumaQQ> HOW DO I LOG IN AS ROOT?
[05:38] <jasin> yes, there is gaprted live cd
[05:38] <MasterShrek> Core why do u keep putting that All People thing there, its fucking annoying
[05:38] <sc4ttrbrain> MasterShrek: ubuntu and kubuntu cd only
[05:38] <adaptr> Core: the boot screen ? then boot it with the rescue option, so you can see what happens
[05:38] <mnoir> !root
[05:38] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:38] <lumaQQ> i forgot the string ~~ hehe (^-^)
[05:38] <xtknight> nn531: just try xmms and xmms-mad, then once u install them on the target pc it will ask for dependencies, then transfer those over as needed
[05:38] <lord_ceiphas> OMG
[05:38] <jasin> gparted linux live cd: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:38] <MasterShrek> sc4ttrbrain i would reccomment getting knoppix, its a very handy distro
[05:38] <MasterShrek> recommend*
[05:38] <lord_ceiphas> i just made a typo and now dont want to reboot
[05:38] <nn531> k
[05:38] <Core> --- All People ---: he says: Uncompressing linux....OK Booting the kernel
[05:39] <sc4ttrbrain> MasterShrek: ahy can i do  it within ubuntu
[05:39] <jasin> gparted linux live cd: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:39] <Core> --- All People ---: then bellow the cursor blinks forever
[05:39] <mnoir> lord_ceiphas: ??
[05:39] <lord_ceiphas> rm -rf /usr instead of rm -rf /usr/src/linux-2.6.19.1
[05:39] <sc4ttrbrain> MasterShrek: *why
[05:39] <jasin> The CD aims to be fast, small in size (~30mb), and use minimal resources
[05:39] <jasin> to get that disk partitioned the way you want it.
[05:39] <Core> adaptr: the boot screen, yes
[05:39] <lord_ceiphas> i made a crtl-c after 3secs, but dont know what has been killed
[05:39] <adaptr> Core: can you select the second boot option ? then do so
[05:39] <Core> tehre's no "rescue option"
[05:39] <mnoir> lord_ceiphas: i see a backup restoration in yer future....
[05:39] <MasterShrek> sc4ttrbrain no, u cannot resize a mounted partition, but to have your root partition not mounted you need to be booting off a cd, knoppix im sure has a partition editor, and im sure that ubuntu doesnt
[05:39] <xtknight> lord_ceiphas: uhhhh do sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop
[05:40] <lumaQQ> when i drag a file into the /usr/share  folder is just dont drop there?  is that cos i need to log in as root first?? (^-^)?
[05:40] <lord_ceiphas> i have kubuntu, but thanks, ill try that
[05:40] <jasin> you do a rescue in recovery mode, use fsck
[05:40] <Core> adaptr: the second option? the same happens
[05:40] <xtknight> lord_ceiphas: should restore basic functionality, /usr shouldnt usually contain too much personal stuff that shuold be in /home
[05:40] <xtknight> lord_ceiphas: try kubuntu-desktop then
[05:40] <sc4ttrbrain> MasterShrek: so i can only do it from live cd?
[05:40] <mnoir> lumaQQ: or run nautilus in superuser mode
[05:40] <Anderson> what command do I use to check and modify user privileges?
[05:40] <lumaQQ> mnoir  how do i do that?
[05:40] <adaptr> Core: then press "e" to edit the boot options, scroll to the kernel line, add "single" on the end, and press "b" to boot
[05:41] <sc4ttrbrain> jasin: u were talking to me?
[05:41] <MasterShrek> i believe so, unless you have another os on that you can boot to so that your partition isnt mounted
[05:41] <mnoir> lumaQQ: 1 way: in terminal: gksudo nautilus
[05:41] <Anderson> !user
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about user - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <Anderson> !user admin
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about user admin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <mnoir> lumaQQ: there are others i think
[05:41] <Anderson> !user administration
[05:41] <Pierre_N> has anyone tried ntfs-3g ?
[05:41] <Core> adaptr: wow, secret option! i did not knew this
[05:41] <jasin> adduser -u
[05:41] <jasin> use that
[05:41] <jasin> http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/basic/adduser.shtml
[05:41] <adaptr> Core: nothing secret about it; man bootparams
[05:42] <Core> adaptr: even this is secret
[05:42] <nn531> xtknight: I dont understand why rhythmbox wont work, why would they even put it on there to begin with?
[05:42] <adaptr> Core: sure, if you like
[05:42] <Core> adaptr: the help of menu does not works fully
[05:42] <xtknight> nn531: it's illegal to have mp3 support in by default
[05:42] <sc4ttrbrain> MasterShrek: cant i use fdisk?
[05:42] <IdleOne> Happy New Year All! what is the command to reconfigure xorg? least I believe thats what I need to dio because everything on my screen is way to big
[05:42] <adaptr> Core: sorry, that doesn't parse
[05:42] <xtknight> nn531: due to copyright laws i think, or something like that, but no linux distro can include it
[05:43] <Core> adaptr: some Fx keys does not work
[05:43] <jasin> mp3 is not illegal, pirating is.
[05:43] <MasterShrek> sc4ttrbrain maybe, can u resize using fdisk, ive never done it
[05:43] <adaptr> IdleOne: explain "too big"
[05:43] <Core> adaptr: thanks guy
[05:43] <nn531> xtknight: i see, just another microsoft thing huh?
[05:43] <adaptr> Core: np
[05:43] <Core> adaptr: i'll do that
[05:43] <xtknight> nn531: i guess....i think microsoft pays fraunhofer iis for permission to use mp3
[05:43] <MasterShrek> sc4ttrbrain if u can, then yes, but u just have to boot the live cd so your partition isnt mounted
[05:43] <IdleOne> adaptr,  my icons on desktop are about 2 times the size of what they were yesterday morning
[05:43] <Music_Shuffle> !reconfigure X
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reconfigure X - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <Core> adaptr: and hope to talk again with you from Ubuntu, not Kurumim
[05:44] <BrianB04> nn531: What, MP3 not being included? Now that's a Fraunhofer thing.
[05:44] <jasin> nn531, like I told you, install vlc it'll do mp3 playback
[05:44] <adaptr> IdleOne: how does this relate to your screen resolution, i.e. what is it ?
[05:44] <Music_Shuffle> !reconfigure
[05:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reconfigure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <BrianB04> s/now/no
[05:44] <adaptr> Core: best of luck then!
[05:44] <nn531> k
[05:44] <jasin> nn531, the page I gave you has instructions on installing it
[05:44] <nn531> jasin: thepage wouldntwork for me
[05:44] <sc4ttrbrain> thanks
[05:44] <nn531> jasin: I cant view it correctly
[05:44] <IdleOne> adaptr, resolution is 640*480 right now and I cant seem to change it. dont have other options
[05:44] <jasin> nn531, what wouldnt work? tell me
[05:44] <Core> --- All People ----: thanks, I'll be back to tell what happened. stay around!
[05:44] <Music_Shuffle> !xconfig | IdleOne
[05:44] <ubotu> IdleOne: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:44] <Anderson> how do i list all available user accounts?
[05:45] <nn531> jasin: hold on let me bringit up again
[05:45] <samyboy> Hello. sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales does not give me a menu to configure my locales. how to get it ?
[05:45] <mnoir> Anderson: in terminal 'cat /etc/passwd
[05:45] <adaptr> IdleOne: then something has screwed up your xorg config - you can force a reconfig by running "sudo Xorg -configure" from a console, but it won't be perfect
[05:45] <MasterShrek> hey does anyone know where i can get w32codecs at?
[05:45] <mnoir> w/o '
[05:45] <Anderson> mnoir, thanks
[05:45] <MasterShrek> !w32codecs
[05:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:45] <adaptr> IdleOne: unless you've disabled DDC on xorg, in which case it won't be able to get the resolutions from you rmonitor
[05:46] <mnoir> Anderson: there is an admin function in gnome as well
[05:46] <nn531> jasin: it wont let me view the entire page, I get to "For a normal install, do:" then I cant go down anyfurther
[05:46] <jasin> nn531, use the instructions listed on the vlc ubuntu page not the debian, http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[05:46] <IdleOne> adaptr, I didnt disable anything
[05:47] <nn531> jasin: k, I was wondering why you gave me the debian page
[05:47] <adaptr> IdleOne: well, try one or the other ways of reconfiguring your xorg.conf first, then see what it puts in the config file
[05:47] <jjlee> I just did a sudo aptitude purge mysql-server , but I still have mysqld and /etc/init.d scripts and /etc/rc.d symlinks -- anybody have a clue?
[05:47] <LOQUILLO_> I'm at home , again
[05:47] <slacker_nl> lo
[05:47] <adaptr> IdleOne: for any control over screen resolutions and refresh, you'll have to hand-edit xorg.conf anyway
[05:47] <jasin> nn531,  the instructions are this: 1. sudo apt-get update 2. sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd 3. sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[05:47] <adaptr> hi
[05:47] <LOQUILLO_> after of a long day of work
[05:47] <nn531> jasin:i cant update, not connected to the internet, dial up wont work with ubuntu
[05:48] <slacker_nl> quick question: if I want to add an entry for my removable disk to /etc/fstab, how do I specify to choose the filesystem type automaticly?
[05:48] <Anderson> mnoir, Yea, I removed that trying to fix something. I forgot about it though. I'll put it back on and see if that helps.
[05:48] <LOQUILLO_> since 1:00 an until 11:30 am
[05:48] <mnoir> Anderson: anyway - the /etc files are all viewable :)
[05:48] <jasin> nn531, well you'll have to go online to install mp3 support, there is no mp3 support natively
[05:48] <nn531> k
[05:49] <jasin> nn531, vlc is just onhe player that supports mp3
[05:49] <LOQUILLO_> woo, too many hours
[05:49] <jasin> nn531, vlc is just one player that supports mp3
[05:49] <nn531> jasin: I did manage to install libdvdcss2 whatever
[05:49] <jasin> nn531, one of many
[05:49] <Anderson> mnoir, I'm trying to figure out why sudo is not working for my user account who is supposed to have admin privileges
[05:49] <jasin> nn531, how? you said you were not online
[05:49] <LOQUILLO_> I need eat and sleep
[05:49] <nn531> i used my external hard drive
[05:49] <mnoir> Anderson: are they in the admin group?  cat /etc/group(s?)
[05:49] <jasin> nn531, btw, thats the lib for dvd playback not mp3
[05:49] <nn531> grr
[05:50] <Stormx2> nn531: What? Lots of music apps support MP3 natively...
[05:50] <Stormx2> Bah
[05:50] <Stormx2> That was meant for jasin
[05:50] <slacker_nl> quick question: if I want to add an entry for my removable disk to /etc/fstab, how do I specify to choose the filesystem type automaticly?
[05:50] <ikonia> LOQUILLO_: SHUT UP - you're saying the same text in every channel your in
[05:50] <mnoir> Anderson: or in the sudoers file?
[05:50] <wvrlinux> where can i download JASS voor UBUNTU??
[05:50] <jasin> stormx, if they have the libraries installed, yes.
[05:50] <Anderson> mnoir, I'll check
[05:50] <Stormx2> jasin: Incorrect.
[05:51] <mnoir> Anderson: pref is for the admin group as it is simple
[05:51] <jasin> stromx, umm no, you need the mp3 library to playback mp3s
[05:51] <jasin> stromx, no way around that
[05:51] <Stormx2> jasin: BMP, BMPx and Audacious support MP3 playback in-the-box
[05:51] <mnoir> Anderson: sudoers allows finer control
[05:51] <Akuma_> is it possible to grant an application permanent access to the keyring?
[05:51] <nn531> jasin: i'll wait till I have my wireless later tonight
[05:51] <nn531> jasin & xtknight: thanks alot
[05:51] <amicrawler> is there a edgy cd iso  not a dvd iso ?
[05:52] <Music_Shuffle> Yeah.
[05:52] <killown> anyone know dvdidle program for linux system?
[05:52] <Music_Shuffle> @ami
[05:52] <nn531> amicrawler: yeah, ubuntu's website has it
[05:52] <jasin> stormx2, and those are not installed by default are they? Like i originally said, he will have to download a media player that supports mp3 playback
[05:52] <IdleOne> adaptr, Music_Shuffle thanks for your help screen back to normal now :)
[05:52] <jasin> stormx, come on man, you is not following along.
[05:52] <Music_Shuffle> :)
[05:52] <Akuma_> amicrawler: i think if you get the torrent on ubuntu's website its a cd iso
[05:52] <amicrawler> http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/releases/6.10/release/  becuse i went here
[05:52] <slacker_nl> nevermind, auto did the job
[05:53] <wvrlinux> where can i download PLAY JASS voor UBUNTU??
[05:53] <Anderson> mnoir, When I look in the groups file I see root:X:0:(no users listed)    and further down I see my user's group and the user in his own group.
[05:53] <amicrawler> i downloaded the dvd iso and made it  know i need to know howto upgrade with out mess up my home dir with this dvd
[05:53] <Stormx2> jasin: Right. But what you were saying is that you need certain libraries for mp3 playback in any media player. Thats wrong. The libraries for gstreamer to understand MP3 are not installed by default, but a lot of players don't have a gstreamer backend
[05:54] <mnoir> Anderson: but no admin:x:somenumber:users?
[05:54] <Anderson> mnoir, and no one under group adm or admin
[05:54] <Stormx2> wvrlinux: what is play jass? I've checked the repos, its not there
[05:54] <wvrlinux> stormx: Jass is a card game
[05:54] <mnoir> Anderson: styrange - i hesitate to tell you to manually add it
[05:54] <mnoir> but....
[05:54] <Music_Shuffle> Storkme, err...don't you need the LAME libs? ./Could just be confused.
[05:55] <mnoir> is admin defined in yout sudoers file?
[05:55] <mnoir> yout=your :)
[05:55] <Anderson> mnoir, What interests me though, is that when I use the GUI users-admin, the user is a member of the group 'root'
[05:55] <adaptr> mnoir, Anderson: I am a member of both adm and admin, they should definitely be in there
[05:55] <adaptr> Anderson: which version are you on ?
[05:55] <amicrawler> i downloaded the dvd iso and made it  now i need to know. howto upgrade with out mess up my home dir with this dvd. is there a how to for this ?
[05:55] <hehlol> so. the kaymap on my R40 thinkpad is broken
[05:56] <mnoir> Anderson: there is no security issue in groups - pls pastebin the file?
[05:56] <adaptr> amicrawler: why not just upgrade over the Internet ?
[05:56] <hehlol> "u" prints "4"
[05:56] <hehlol> etc
[05:56] <amicrawler> i can't
[05:56] <Anderson> mnoir, How do I pastebin?
[05:56] <Seveas> hehlol, hit num lock
[05:56] <mnoir> !pastebin
[05:56] <Anderson> !pastebin
[05:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:56] <adaptr> amicrawler: as pointed out earlier: gksu "update-manager -c"
[05:56] <amicrawler> some of my
[05:56] <amicrawler> i did that
[05:56] <amicrawler> errors
[05:56] <Stormx2> wvrlinux: I'm not sure there are any implementations of it... you may have a look at emulating CyberJass... but otherwise I don't know
[05:56] <adaptr> amicrawler: then just add the dvd to your sources.list
[05:57] <mnoir> Anderson: make sure to tell what the uri is :)
[05:57] <amicrawler> how?
[05:57] <wvrlinux> stormx2: i think that is the right one! anyidea where i can get it?
[05:57] <Anderson> mnoir, Gotcha =] 
[05:57] <Stormx2> http://www.cyberjass.com You will need WINE too.
[05:57] <Stormx2> !wine | wvrlinux
[05:57] <ubotu> wvrlinux: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
 how do i add my dvd to my src list ?
[05:59] <wvrlinux> @all yep got it! and i've WINE installed too. thatnks for helping out!
[05:59] <LOQUILLO_> brb
[06:00] <mnoir> Anderson: is the user in question one you added as you were installing?
[06:00] <wvrlinux> ubotu , stormx2: yep got it! and i've WINE installed too. thatnks for helping out!
[06:00] <Anderson> mnoir, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/121/
[06:00] <Anderson> mnoir, yes
[06:01] <mnoir> ok - i see the missing value is missing
 how do i add my dvd to my src list ?
[06:01] <timo901> how dose one use wine
[06:01] <mnoir> on line 46 add your user at end of line
[06:01] <mnoir> line should begin admin:x:106
[06:01] <eakr> Hi, i boot ubuntu cd on my laptop but is it possible to access my laptop harddrive?
[06:01] <Music_Shuffle> !mount
[06:01] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:02] <eakr> but from LIVE CD
[06:02] <mnoir> total line should be: admin:x:106:bos
[06:02] <timo901> eakr:open a teminal !
[06:02] <mnoir> sorry - you, NOT bos
[06:02] <hehlol> thanks for th numlock hint
[06:02] <amicrawler> people  you tell me these things  but i do not know how to add my dvd to the src list .  i can add reg src stuff  but do not know to add a dvd to my src
[06:02] <hehlol> never had this issue before
[06:02] <timo901> type fdisk
[06:03] <eakr> fuck off
[06:03] <Anderson> mnoir, K, hold.
[06:03] <IdleOne> hehlol, share that numlock hint please :)
[06:03] <timo901> fdisck -l
[06:03] <HymnToLife> !language | eakr
[06:03] <ubotu> eakr: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:03] <eakr> timo you are bastard
[06:03] <IdleOne> !numlock
[06:03] <ubotu> To enable Number Lock by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[06:03] <mnoir> Anderson: but even if we fix this, something is a little strange and I fear there might b other issues
[06:03] <HymnToLife> !ops
[06:03] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[06:03] <timo901> eakr:what ?
[06:03] <Anderson> mnoir, this is the tip of the iceberg
[06:03] <mnoir> Anderson: ??
[06:03] <timo901> eakr:i helping ?
[06:03] <HymnToLife> thaks apo :)
[06:03] <Anderson> mnoir, I had this hard drive installed in another system when I installed Ubuntu.
[06:04] <Anderson> mnoir, I moved it to this system and have been trying to adapt it since.
[06:04] <mnoir> Anderson: the value of what you are doing is a possible unnecessary education :)
[06:04] <Anderson> mnoir, Well, I haven't brought many issues here, mostly my touchscreen and touchpad.
[06:04] <mnoir> but carry on!
[06:04] <Anderson> mnoir, it's education =] 
[06:05] <adaptr> amicrawler: if you did not alter the original list the dapper CD is still in there.. just replace it with somehting that looks right for the edgy dvd
[06:05] <mnoir> ok - so eith that addition, sudo should work
[06:05] <timo901> eakr:well ??
[06:05] <adaptr> amicrawler: it has to be mounted first, and you'll have to do that
[06:05] <mnoir> eith=with
[06:05] <amicrawler> ok goto it
[06:05] <Anderson> mnoir, I have learned that other people have had similar issues with their touchpad. It's a strange problem too.
[06:05] <amicrawler> in my src list
[06:05] <Anderson> mnoir, Yea, that worked.
[06:05] <amicrawler> now do i do a upgrade
[06:06] <mnoir> Anderson: i hate my touch pad but the laptop is a second system for me
[06:06] <auTONYmous> touchscreen is a tough one....
[06:06] <Anderson> mnoir, well I have a touchscreen too, but that is in worse working order than the touchpad
[06:06] <mnoir> Anderson: and ssh-X puts it's windows on my desktop anyway :)
[06:07] <timo901> eakr: sudo fdisk -l
[06:07] <auTONYmous> Anderson: I got here late...what's the issue with the touchpad
[06:07] <Anderson> I have found one set of drivers, Accelerated-X, that reportedly work GREAT with my laptop. But they aren't free.
[06:07] <auTONYmous> timo901: he got banned for language...
[06:07] <Anderson> auTONYmous, the touchpad does a region select on the desktop instead of moving the cursor.
[06:08] <nivekz> hello. here is a beginner's question. why can't input method be enabled in firefox by right click?
[06:08] <Anderson> auTONYmous, As if it were double clicking a place on the desktop that corresponded to the place I touch on the touchpad.
[06:08] <auTONYmous> Anderson: do you know the touchpad manufacturer and model # (Synaptics or otherwise)
[06:08] <timo901> :)thnks for telling me , he thou i had done some thing stupid with his hard drive? like wipe it clean
[06:08] <mnoir> Anderson: my touchpad works fine in 6.10 - would you like to see the definition?
[06:08] <Anderson> auTONYmous, No, I've been looking, but haven't figured out how to find it out. There are no system specs with that information online either.
[06:09] <auTONYmous> Anderson: dmesg should tell you...
[06:09] <Anderson> mnoir, Sure.
[06:09] <Anderson> auTONYmous, sweet, is that all of the devices on my system?
[06:09] <auTONYmous> whatever got loaded at startup...if not, then /var/log/Xorg.log will tell what driver its using
[06:10] <auTONYmous> lspci shows all the devices
[06:10] <timo901> how do i use wine to play my game /media/window/GTR2:-P
[06:10] <Anderson> auTONYmous, I've tried lspci to find the touchpad and the monitor, the closest I have come is the display adapter.
[06:10] <CheshireViking> Can somebody help with this error trying to run glxgears "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:10] <CheshireViking> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[06:10] <CheshireViking> " with nvidia drivers installed on Edgy
[06:11] <auTONYmous> I know...my touchpad is an extension of USB somehow...
[06:11] <auTONYmous> check /var/log/Xorg.log
[06:11] <Anderson> auTONYmous, What would it be described as, Touchpad? Pointing Device?
[06:11] <auTONYmous> Input device
[06:12] <Anderson> auTONYmous, is Xorg.0.log the same?
[06:12] <auTONYmous> yeah
[06:12] <Anderson> k
[06:12] <mnoir> Anderson: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/126/
[06:14] <Anderson> mnoir, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/127/
[06:14] <Anderson> auTONYmous, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/127/
[06:14] <LinTux> When I install KDE or XFCE my login screen goes out of sinc, how can I cure this
[06:15] <Anderson> From the reading I've done, the wacom driver is used for a digitized input. Mine isn't digitized though. I'm also not booted under the kernel image with the problems.
[06:15] <Anderson> I'm on 5.X right now because I can at least use the touchpad.
[06:15] <Dicander> How do I enable other resolutions than the three default desktop resolutions?
[06:16] <mnoir> Anderson: i dunno this stuff so well but it looks unhappy
[06:16] <HymnToLife> !resolution | Dicander
[06:16] <ubotu> Dicander: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:18] <auTONYmous> Anderson: your touchpad isn't synaptics
[06:18] <superkirbyartist> Anyone can help me with Criawips?
[06:18] <Anderson> auTONYmous, No, I think the other system I used had a synaptic.
[06:18] <kurumin> Hello
[06:18] <auTONYmous> I think Xorg is picking up your touchpad device as a Wacom tablet, so its working wrong
[06:18] <mnoir> Anderson: then my snippet is useless to you  :)
[06:19] <kurumin> dfsd
[06:19] <LinTux> When I install KDE or XFCE my login screen goes out of sinc, how can I cure this
[06:19] <Anderson> Yeah, I don't know how to figure out who the touchpad is made by though.
[06:19] <Core> HELLO!!!
[06:19] <Core> Do you remember me?
[06:19] <Core> Core2Duo
[06:19] <eli> hello.!!
[06:20] <HymnToLife> !resolution | LinTux
[06:20] <ubotu> LinTux: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:20] <Core> xtknight: hello
[06:20] <jackson3246> does anybody know a way to easily (like with openoffice) separate the (html formatted) bold words in a document from the normally-formatted words?
[06:20] <auTONYmous> Anderson: Look into "System -> Administration -> Device Manager" and look for your touchpad device
[06:21] <Core> --- All People --- : someone can help me
[06:21] <jackson3246> nevermind I've found it. sorry for the trouble
[06:21] <Core> --- All People --- : Ubuntu 6.06 does not boot in my PC
[06:21] <Anderson> auTONYmous, k
[06:21] <pengulord> ok
[06:21] <LinTux> thanks HymnToLife & ubotu
[06:21] <pengulord> is it the disk
[06:21] <Core> --- All People --- : Ubuntu 6.06 does not boot in my PC
[06:21] <pengulord> have you installed it
[06:21] <IndyGunFreak> Core, why doesn't it boot?
[06:21] <Music_Shuffle> !error
[06:21] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[06:21] <HymnToLife> !thank you | LinTux
[06:21] <ubotu> LinTux: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[06:21] <killown> what is dvd-ram?
[06:22] <Core> IndyGunFreak: that's whatr i want to find out
[06:22] <IndyGunFreak> Core, My car won't start.. Why?
[06:22] <Core> IndyGunFreak: after the boot menu he says:
[06:22] <pengulord> becouse you suck lol indy
[06:22] <Music_Shuffle> killown, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-RAM
[06:22] <mnoir> IndyGunFreak: try upg car to SUSE
[06:22] <IndyGunFreak> need a lot more info than just, "it won't start"
[06:22] <Core> IndyGunFreak: Uncompressing Linux.....OK Booting the kernel
[06:22] <HymnToLife> !language | pengulord
[06:22] <ubotu> pengulord: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:22] <Anderson> auTONYmous, Nothin, there are a bunch of unnamed things on the PCI and USB bus though.
[06:22] <IndyGunFreak> anoir..lol, no thanks
[06:22] <killown> thanks
[06:22] <Maul555> ive got a problem...
[06:23] <Core> IndyGunFreak: then bellow a cursor blinks forever
[06:23] <Music_Shuffle> !anyone | Maul555
[06:23] <ubotu> Maul555: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:23] <pengulord> we all do
[06:23] <auTONYmous> look for "PS/2" entries
[06:23] <nolimitsoya> Maul555, i thought you would. why else would you be here?
[06:23] <Anderson> auTONYmous, and 2 generic mouse/ps/2 devices
[06:23] <Maul555> I installed my ati drivers, and now when it tries to startx, i get a blank screen, but can hear the os booting up behind it...
[06:23] <Music_Shuffle> Haha
[06:23] <gilnim> I need DRM for my Opera Browser - how do I get it?
[06:23] <pengulord> z0mg spamage
[06:23] <superkirbyartist> I still have a dependency probem when I try to install Criawips, but only one, not four.
[06:23] <auTONYmous> Anderson: Generic, eh?
[06:23] <Music_Shuffle> !DRM
[06:23] <pengulord> cant read so fast
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DRM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <Music_Shuffle> O_o
[06:23] <nolimitsoya> Maul555, boot recoverymode and reconfugre your xserver
[06:23] <Core> Anderson: brasileiro cara?
[06:23] <Maul555> how
[06:23] <Music_Shuffle> pengulord, read faster! xD
[06:23] <IndyGunFreak> i dont think DRM works with Linux, i could be wrong.
[06:23] <gilnim> DRM = Digital Right Management
[06:23] <nolimitsoya> Maul555, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:23] <IndyGunFreak> at least i don't know ho to do it.
[06:23] <pengulord> lol easy fix right music?
[06:23] <Music_Shuffle> ;)
[06:23] <Maul555> awsome, ill try that, thx
[06:24] <Anderson> Core, Que?
[06:24] <gilnim> IndyGunFreak: Actually I'm in Windows atm
[06:24] <Anderson> auTONYmous, Yup, checking detailed info.
[06:24] <Music_Shuffle> !windows | gilnim
[06:24] <ubotu> gilnim: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:24] <Core> Anderson: nada, s  legal achar um brasileiro
[06:24] <Core> Anderson: po bem que tu podia me ajudar :P
[06:24] <Music_Shuffle> !en
[06:24] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[06:24] <Music_Shuffle> :P
[06:24] <mnoir> !br | Core
[06:24] <ubotu> Core: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:24] <killown> how I do to switch xchat standard browser galeon for firefox
[06:24] <IndyGunFreak> gilnim, my bad, i guess since this is a LINUX forum, I thought your question pertained to Linux
[06:25] <gilnim> Music_Shuffle: :P
[06:25] <killown> how I do to switch xchat standard browser galeon for firefox?
[06:25] <Anderson> auTONYmous, nothing identifying the manufacturer
[06:25] <gilnim> IndyGunFreak: It does!
[06:25] <defcon8> what is the meta package to install gcc and the like?
[06:25] <Core> sorry
[06:25] <pengulord> im going to miss mirc when i go linux
[06:25] <HymnToLife> !repeat killown
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeat killown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <xtknight> defcon8: build-essential
[06:25] <superkirbyartist> Can someone help me with dependancy problem please?
[06:25] <defcon8> thanks
[06:25] <Music_Shuffle> !repeat | killown
[06:25] <Core> how do you know it's pt? :)
[06:25] <ubotu> killown: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:25] <tomplast> Does anyone here have problems with accessing MSN and Jabber through Gaim atm? I can only use IRC atm O_o
[06:25] <drivera90> !equivalents
[06:25] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[06:25] <IndyGunFreak> pengulord, just use x-chat, they look almost identical to me
[06:25] <pengulord> o ok
[06:25] <Music_Shuffle> tomplast, I access Jabber ok.
[06:25] <pengulord> goods
[06:25] <Core> help me!
[06:26] <Music_Shuffle> With what?
[06:26] <HymnToLife> X chat is a million times better than mIRC in every possible way
[06:26] <Core> Core 2 Duo, D946, DDR2 533, SATA2
[06:26] <max_> him
[06:26] <pengulord> what core2duo
[06:26] <Music_Shuffle> You have to realize, in a channel like this, most people have the attention span of a chipmunk. Saying 'help me' is just a bad idea.
[06:26] <Core> My beautiful machine does not boot up any SO!
[06:26] <Music_Shuffle> And what about that system?
[06:26] <IndyGunFreak> HymnToLife, i dont' k now, they seem similar to me, but no reason to freak about losing MIRC, when we have X-chat
[06:26] <Core> I have no many options
[06:26] <superkirbyartist> tomplast, what version?
[06:26] <Core> Debian, Turbo Linux and Ubuntu, the newer
[06:27] <Music_Shuffle> IndyGunFreak, Indeed. <3 XChat
[06:27] <IndyGunFreak> but its been YEARS since i used MIRC..,
[06:27] <Music_Shuffle> It doesn't boot off the LiveCD?
[06:27] <tomplast> superkirbyartist: 2.0.0beta3.1
[06:27] <tomplast> superkirbyartist: Ubuntu 6.10
[06:27] <IndyGunFreak> !bomb
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bomb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <tomplast> superkirbyartist: It do normally work.
[06:27] <max_> hi, newbe to linux... is it possible to make the icons in most applications smaller ? I have a laptop with a small screen and huge icons take too much space.
[06:27] <IndyGunFreak> max
[06:27] <xtknight> max_: right click , stretch icon?
[06:27] <IndyGunFreak> in Ubuntu, irght click, choose stretch icon
[06:28] <IndyGunFreak> then make them smaller.
[06:28] <IndyGunFreak> you can't do that in Kubuntu, at least that i've found, but Xubuntu/Ubuntu does it.
[06:28] <tomplast> a restart of gaim fixed my problems :)
[06:28] <superkirbyartist> tomplast: Strange, I have Gaim using MSN /AIM/ICQ, are you at school, university, job?
[06:28] <Music_Shuffle> :)
[06:28] <tomplast> Im at home btw so i guess that was some bug or something :)
[06:28] <max_> sorry - not actually icons but menus - visual representations of usual menu options in many applications
[06:28] <Marelo> Hello! I've just installed unreal tournament on my laptop but the game is to slow! Even in the menus, the mouse movement... What could the problem be??
[06:29] <tomplast> superkirbyartist: thank you for your time :).
[06:29] <IcedEarth> are you using XGL>
[06:29] <xtknight> marelo: you need 3d accelerated video drivers
[06:29] <IcedEarth> ?
[06:29] <IndyGunFreak> max_, another thing that may work, is find the icon file on your PC, open it with GIMP and use the resize function to resize the icon, then save, then change the icon using right click/properties
[06:29] <szymon_> hi
[06:29] <superkirbyartist> Now can someone help me with Criawips dependancy?
[06:29] <IndyGunFreak> but the right click, stretch icon, certainly seems easiest
[06:29] <xtknight> stretch icon doesnt work for the menus
[06:29] <superkirbyartist> Anyone can help with dependancies?
[06:29] <IndyGunFreak> the menus?
[06:29] <xtknight> i think he wants "small icons" like windows
[06:29] <szymon_> sorry for (maybe) stupid question: where can i find a program envy (for Nvidia drivers)?
[06:29] <Marelo> xtknight: how can i set up that? my vid card is a Intel Mobile i915
[06:30] <auTONYmous> Anderson: dmesg|grep input
[06:30] <IcedEarth> dont know what dependancies  do u need help wif?
[06:30] <IndyGunFreak> onh you want the icons in your menu smaller.
[06:30] <Anderson> auTONYmous, k
 yes
[06:30] <Plouj> what are some audio file format conversion programs available for Ubuntu?
[06:30] <szymon_> i've tried all ways to install drivers but only this worked
[06:30] <pengulord> core
[06:30] <szymon_> google is not my friend :-/
[06:30] <superkirbyartist> Please?
[06:30] <xtknight> szymon: an envy program? im confused
[06:30] <max_> don't really care if the layout is as in "Windows" or not but just want it smaller..
[06:31] <IndyGunFreak> max_, use Xubuntu, it has the smallest menu icons on the planet...lol
[06:31] <superkirbyartist> :( no one can help me with dependancy
[06:31] <auTONYmous> Anderson: also: dmesg|grep PS
[06:31] <Core> pengulord: hey
[06:31] <IcedEarth> superkirbyartist outline your problem
[06:31] <Anderson> auTONYmous, it reports 2 generic mouses (mice)
[06:31] <Marelo> xtknight: how can i set up that? my vid card is a Intel Mobile i915
[06:31] <auTONYmous> Anderson: (The second one gave me the mouse device ID)
[06:31] <xtknight> marelo: uhhhh i believe intel has accelerated drivers, i am not sure exactly
[06:31] <pengulord> talk to me in pm core
[06:31] <max_> IndyGunFreak> - i would try it but is there a chance that it will screw my ubuntu?
[06:32] <xtknight> brb
[06:32] <Ferret> what
[06:32] <IndyGunFreak> ah, i guess its possible, but i have all 3 desktops on my PC, and its fine(you just install the desktop enviro, you don't have to download and install Xubunt)
[06:32] <IndyGunFreak> but that may be an extreme way to go about fixing this.
[06:32] <Anderson> auTONYmous, no device ID, I see input ID Input2 and INput 4
[06:32] <IndyGunFreak> i just can't see where to size the menu icons
[06:32] <Marelo> xtknight: well, then, what can I do? the drivers is the latest from ubuntu repository (and they told me here last night that Intel released GPL theirs drivers, so the ubuntu repository version is, in a way, official drivers)
[06:32] <Music_Shuffle> Anything is possible.  Its not PROBABLE.
[06:32] <max_> I tried kubuntu -fine but I see in my ubuntu installation lots of kununtu progs which i dont really want to see
[06:33] <auTONYmous> Anderson: what's the make/model of the laptop
[06:33] <tarzeau> CAN YOU STOP SENDING THE IDIOTS TO #DEBIAN PLEASE. HAPPY NEW YEAR
[06:33] <Anderson> auTONYmous, Panasonic Toughbook CF-18
[06:33] <Music_Shuffle> ...
[06:33] <IndyGunFreak> Music_Shuffle, you're such a positive thinker
[06:33] <Music_Shuffle> !caps | tarzeau
[06:33] <Anderson> auTONYmous, this too PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:K101,PNP0f13:MOU2]  at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12
[06:33] <ubotu> tarzeau: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:33] <IndyGunFreak> i'd like to probably find the guy who broke into my truck this morning and possibly kick his ass
[06:33] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:34] <tarzeau> can you stop sending the fucking idiots to #debian please. happy new year
[06:34] <auTONYmous> Anderson: heh, I wanted one of those...
[06:34] <Music_Shuffle> !language | tarzeau
[06:34] <ubotu> tarzeau: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:34] <Anderson> auTONYmous, I got a good deal on ebay
[06:34] <adaptr> tarzeau: it's very impolit eto refer to them as "idiots"; we fondly refer to them as "newcomers"
[06:34] <pengulord> where arnt so stfu
[06:34] <superkirbyartist> IcedEarth: I am currently using apt-get to install Ekiga but when I install Criawips I have a dependancy problem with libdbus.
[06:34] <IndyGunFreak> tarzeau, little stressed?
[06:34] <Marelo> Hello! I've just installed unreal tournament on my laptop but the game is to slow! Even in the menus, the mouse movement... What could the problem be??
[06:34] <adaptr> tarzeau: and you can take that language back to #debian on your way out
[06:34] <max_> well I have backed up my system (hopefully succesfully) no I can try out xubuntu..
[06:34] <Music_Shuffle> !stfu | pengulord
[06:34] <ubotu> pengulord: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[06:34] <Music_Shuffle> ;P
[06:34] <pengulord> :|
[06:34] <tarzeau> adaptr: fuck off
[06:34] <IcedEarth> Ekiga being the internet phone program
[06:35] <IndyGunFreak> Music_Shuffle, is the king of ubotu i do believe
[06:35] <IcedEarth> what version of Ubuntu u got?
[06:35] <tarzeau> IndyGunFreak: yes it's stressing
[06:35] <noodles12> My ubuntu used to display on my tv. via s-video cable without any modifications, i just plug in and it shows up. a month later i do the same thing and it doesnt' show up. How would i display my screen on a t.v. via s-video?
[06:35] <Music_Shuffle> !language | tarzeau
[06:35] <ubotu> tarzeau: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:35] <maul555_> Ok, im back into my installation with gui, thank god...
[06:35] <superkirbyartist> !language | tarzeau
[06:35] <Music_Shuffle> Beat you to it :P
[06:35] <maul555_> but how do i keep that from happening again?
[06:35] <chiklit> Anyone know why the default sound card settings under System > Preferences > Sound don't stick when I close the window?
[06:35] <tarzeau> !repeat | superkirbyartist
[06:35] <ubotu> superkirbyartist: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:35] <Ferret> superkirbyartist: He can't help it, he's from the int-- I mean debian
[06:35] <IndyGunFreak> Music_Shuffle, who was theguy the other night who was gonna install every single package so he coud; see how much diskspace it took
[06:36] <Music_Shuffle> IndyGunFreak, Gun_Smoke I think it was.
[06:36] <IndyGunFreak> i was wondering how that went...lol
[06:36] <superkirbyartist> So IcedEarth: There is no problem with Ekiga, just some with Criawips.
[06:36] <Music_Shuffle> Haven't seen him since, but its been a busy couple days, so I dunno.
[06:36] <chiklit> It keeps listing my TV card as my default sound card.
[06:36] <IndyGunFreak> Music_Shuffle, that might be a bad sign...lol
[06:37] <Music_Shuffle> Either total disaster, or his other events took priority, could be either I guess :P
[06:37] <IndyGunFreak> yeah, i hope not disaster
[06:37] <IndyGunFreak> you have to admit, he'll never have a dependancy problem..lol
[06:37] <pengulord> wow this room is total chaos
[06:37] <superkirbyartist> Everyone can forget what I said about Ekiga.
[06:37] <Music_Shuffle> Not total chaos. ORGANIZED chaos.
[06:37] <IndyGunFreak> superkirbyartist, already did
[06:37] <pengulord> ok sorry lol
[06:37] <Music_Shuffle> ;)
[06:38] <n2diy> Spontaneous Confusion.
[06:38] <nilleso> ARGH, ubuntu keeps overwriting motd with it's own... How do I stop that? =/
[06:38] <tarzeau> adaptr: and YOU ARE A FUCKING TROLL
[06:38] <Core> adaptr: HELLO GUY
[06:38] <IndyGunFreak> tarzeau, you really need to take a paxil
[06:38] <Marelo> Hello! I've just installed unreal tournament on my laptop but the game is to slow! Even in the menus, the mouse movement... What could the problem be??
[06:38] <Core> adaptr: remember me?
[06:38] <tarzeau> adaptr: CUM EATING BITCH OF AN ASSHOLE
[06:38] <Music_Shuffle> !ops
[06:38] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[06:38] <adaptr> Core: hiya
[06:38] <xtknight> lol
[06:38] <superkirbyartist> IndyGunFreak: Okay, so does that mean you can help me with libdbus?  If you can't that's okay.
[06:39] <IndyGunFreak> superkirbyartist, no sorry
[06:39] <avista> help
[06:39] <Music_Shuffle> Thank you Seveas.
[06:39] <avista> with samba
[06:39] <avista> how do I access the vista box
[06:39] <avista> samba's configured
[06:39] <IndyGunFreak> no kiddin, he was a little high strung...lol
[06:39] <avista> I can see both PCs on both computers
[06:39] <Seveas> nilleso, check the crontabs, it's somewhere in there
[06:39] <Music_Shuffle> Slightly high-strung. :P
[06:39] <nilleso> Thanks Seveas
[06:39] <xtknight> marelo: http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-010512.htm
[06:39] <avista> but I get asked for a password on the linux box to get to the vista box
[06:39] <IndyGunFreak> Seveas, so how long do bans stay in place?
[06:39] <superkirbyartist> IndyGuyFreak: It's okay, thank you for trying ^_^
[06:40] <Marelo> xtknight: thanks. i'm going to have a look
[06:40] <avista> can anyone help
[06:40] <Core> adaptr: disabling USB doesn't works :(
[06:41] <Core> adaptr: the same happens
[06:41] <adaptr> Core: no idea what you mean, I think you're confusing me
[06:41] <vleon> hellow
[06:41] <mnoir> nilleso: look at /etc/default/rcS
[06:41] <quasar8888> where do I find a driver for my lexmark printer?
[06:41] <ugarit> what's the name for the 6.10 version of ubuntu?
[06:41] <xtknight> adaptr: he has a core 2 duo system and disabling usb is supposed to fix one of the chipset issues
[06:41] <Seveas> ugarit, Edgy Eft
[06:41] <vleon> all im going to install xubuntu but its a relevant question for ubuntu also
[06:42] <IndyGunFreak> ugarit, edgy eft
[06:42] <adaptr> xtknight: I know that.l but I never ever mentioned USb to him
[06:42] <vleon> i was wondering what is the best file system to use?
[06:42] <adaptr> vleon: for which purpose ?
[06:42] <IndyGunFreak> ugarit, next one is Feisty fawn, or some cray
[06:42] <IndyGunFreak> crap like that
[06:42] <ugarit> Thanks
[06:42] <vleon> well i dont know actually
[06:42] <Core> xtknight: hello, you do remember me!
[06:42] <ugarit> when is the next one coming out
[06:42] <xtknight> vleon: ext3 for most purpoes
[06:42] <vleon> on my ubuntu that is on a very strong comp
[06:42] <jbroome> april
[06:42] <IndyGunFreak> aroudn 4-5 mo probably
[06:42] <skarface> can anyone tell me why gnome might be ignoring my session startup and the shortcut keys no longer work?
[06:42] <adaptr> vleon: then just accept whatever *buntu suggests
[06:43] <Core> xtknight: another suggestion?
[06:43] <xtknight> Core: yeah i do :P  you'll have to try a newer distro with the 2.6.18 kernel.  dapper or edgy will not work
[06:43] <vleon> i play games, download big files (sometimes more than 4 gb)
[06:43] <mwe> !release
[06:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[06:43] <LinTux> I have installed the core KDE desktop, it does not have a screen res setting, what elso do i need to install
[06:43] <xtknight> core: dapper and edgy will not work on core 2 duo system without a LOT of trouble
[06:43] <vleon> listen to music and wath muvies
[06:43] <Marelo> xtknight: what case do i fit in? "Intel driver for X.org", "DRM kernel module" or "Mesa 3D GL driver"? I'm on this page: http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html
[06:43] <vleon> the xubuntu comp have the same porpuses but its a p3
[06:43] <Core> xtknight: if i could at least install something and then get the kernel
[06:44] <auTONYmous> avista: I'm having the same prob with Samba against a Vista box...no ideas yet
[06:44] <Core> xtknight: what's the size of your kernels?
[06:44] <IndyGunFreak> i think PC's are finally getting to fast
[06:44] <adaptr> Marelo: mesa is horrid - it's a software GL renderer
[06:44] <xtknight> marelo: Mesa 3D GL driver i think
[06:44] <linuxnewbie756> is it possible to use lightscribe in ubuntu?
[06:44] <xtknight> marelo: no i take that back
[06:44] <auTONYmous> linuxnewbie756: Yep
[06:44] <Core> xtknight:  i'm on a dialed conn
[06:44] <linuxnewbie756> how?
[06:44] <Marelo> xtknight: hehehe so...?
[06:44] <mwe> IndyGunFreak: too fast?
[06:44] <vleon> about the same topic, amule doesnt want to download big files, im using an ext3, is it an amule problem or a filesystem one?
[06:44] <xtknight> marelo: x.org 2d driver maybe? i dont know if intel even has accelerated 3d
[06:45] <Core> xtknight: the funny thin is:
[06:45] <adaptr> vleon: amule
[06:45] <auTONYmous> linuxnewbie756: I forget which (nerolinux, gnomebaker or otherwise), but one of the burning programs supports it
[06:45] <mwe> xtknight: it does
[06:45] <Core> xtknight: my Kurumim DO works
[06:45] <vleon> great thanx
[06:45] <LinTux> I have installed the core KDE desktop, it does not have a screen resolution setting, what elso do i need to install to get this in terminal?
[06:45] <adaptr> xtknight: accelerated Intel video is supported through the DRI interface of xorg
[06:45] <vleon> then i should use ext 4 for both my os?
[06:45] <Core> xtknight: it just don't recognize SATA :(
[06:45] <Core> LinTux: soory
[06:45] <mwe> xtknight: the i8xx-i9xx do have accelerated 3d at least
[06:45] <Core> LinTux: what do you mean?
[06:46] <Core> LinTux: i'm in trouble too
[06:46] <Marelo> mwe: nice to hear
[06:46] <linuxnewbie756> autonymous, i have a hp drive, and before you can actually use that software, you have to download somesort of lightscribe software, and off the lightscribe.com website, only rpm is supported
[06:46] <Marelo> what could i do in that case, then?
[06:46] <skarface> can anyone tell me why gnome might be ignoring my session startup and the shortcut keys no longer work?
[06:46] <Core> LinTux: with C2D
[06:46] <LinTux> i cannot alter the screen res in control centre, do I need to install another prog to get it
[06:46] <Core> xtknight: and a very old version
[06:46] <auTONYmous> linuxnewbie756: man alien
[06:46] <vleon> then i should use ext 4 for both my os?
[06:46] <Core> xtknight: it detected both cores
[06:46] <xtknight> Core: uhh, my 2.6.19 kernel ( here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326343 ) is roughly 25 megs total
[06:46] <mwe> !fixres | LinTux
[06:47] <ubotu> LinTux: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:47] <linuxnewbie756> but is that safe? has anyone verified it works for lightscribe?
[06:47] <vleon> nevermind
[06:47] <auTONYmous> linuxnewbie756: alien will (possibly) allow you convert the RPM to a .deb
[06:47] <LinTux> I tried that UBOTU
[06:47] <vleon> thanks for the help :)!
[06:47] <auTONYmous> linuxnewbie756: Then you can install on Ubuntu
[06:47] <xtknight> Core: that should be what 2 hours on dialup?  But it may be worth it...but u still can not boot dapper or edgy by the way
[06:48] <Core> xtknight: 25MB at 5KB/s...
[06:48] <mwe> installing random converted rpms is not a good idea in general unles it's impossible to find a .deb for ubuntu
[06:48] <auTONYmous> mwe: In his case, it probably is impossible
[06:48] <deathplanter> i got no sound on ubuntu using xserver tools,although mpg321 is able to play mp3s and i can hear them. what could be wrong?
[06:48] <HymnToLife> and even so, installing from source is usually safer
[06:48] <Cypher> can any one tell where i can find online lpi exam
[06:49] <jasin> hi
[06:49] <n2diy> Cypher: Google?
[06:49] <Core> xtknight: yeah
[06:49] <mwe> yeah if the source code is available installing from source is a lot safer
[06:49] <maul555> woot.. it worked
[06:49] <Cypher> hi man
[06:49] <Cypher> i did
[06:49] <Core> xtknight: 1,5 h
[06:49] <skarface> deathplanter: check your PCI volume
[06:49] <Cypher> i just want to scale my self
[06:49] <maul555> needless to say it was user error,....
[06:49] <skarface> can anyone tell me why gnome might be ignoring my session startup and the shortcut keys no longer work?
[06:49] <Core> xtknight: i'm thinkig a way to install this kernel from Kurumim
[06:49] <jasin> why is installing from a package unsafe?
[06:49] <deathplanter> skarface: it's all set to max
[06:49] <xtknight> Core: but that kernel is only useful if you already have linux installed
[06:50] <Core> xtknight: yeah
[06:50] <mnoir> Cypher: just a theory: google 'online lpi exam'
[06:50] <Core> xtknight: ...
[06:50] <jasin> .deb just contain source code
[06:50] <Cypher> let me check
[06:50] <jasin> their easy ti peerk inside of
[06:50] <jasin> to*
[06:50] <Core> xtknight: another way is to update Kurumim on the RAM!
[06:51] <mwe> jasin: .debs don't contain source code.
[06:51] <xtknight> Core: ahh ok, hope it works
[06:51] <Cypher> mnoir : thnx
[06:51] <mwe> jasin: they contain binary code
[06:51] <dustigroove> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/lpi/index.html
[06:51] <Core> xtknight: so that it recognizes SATA
[06:51] <xtknight> mwe: debs can contain source sometimes
[06:51] <dustigroove> lpi prep info on ibm's website
[06:51] <Core> xtknight: sorry
[06:51] <mnoir> jasin: the deb pkgs do not contain src, only the deb-src repos do
[06:51] <mwe> xtknight: yeah source .debs
[06:51] <psynaps3> Hi, can someone please tell me the shortcut key to check the cube effect in compiz? I have GL desktop enabled. Ctrl+Alt+L/R arrow doesn't seem to be working.
[06:51] <Cypher> can i take it online
[06:51] <deathplanter> skarface: http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/8437/zrzutekranuxg2.png what could that mean?
[06:51] <Core> People, Ubuntu does not works with C2D
[06:51] <deathplanter> psynaps3: so you got no compiz on ;p
[06:52] <mwe> xtknight: the things you install with apt-get don't contain source code unless you specifically ask for it
[06:52] <IcedEarth> psynaps3 make sure the 3D cube desktop is enabled
[06:52] <IcedEarth> in the beryl settings
[06:52] <Core> That Ugly!
[06:52] <Marelo> xtknight: what could i do in that case, then? am I doomed to not play UT in linux? :(
[06:52] <jasin> Debian packages are standard Unix ar archives
[06:52] <xtknight> mwe: yeah i believe you can get the source with apt-get source
[06:52] <psynaps3> IcedEarth: where do i check that?
[06:52] <Core> And Windows XP?
[06:52] <skarface> deathplanter: don't know. you have no mixer options?
[06:52] <mwe> xtknight: right
[06:52] <jasin> I know what debian packages are
[06:52] <psynaps3> deathplanter: i have the wobbly effect working fine :)
[06:52] <xtknight> mwe: but correct the source is not in the regular debs, just that some people to put the source in debs (not debian or ubuntu maintainers though)
[06:52] <mwe> jasin: but you said they're just source which is not correct
[06:52] <l33t> join #ubuntu-xgl
[06:52] <IcedEarth> system preferences Beryl Settings manager
[06:52] <l33t> #join ubuntu-xgl
[06:53] <deathplanter> skarface: rather no mixers
[06:53] <psynaps3> IcedEarth: I am using Compiz, not Beryl
[06:53] <xtknight> Marelo: i am really not sure, sorry.  consider getting a discrete 3D graphics card
[06:53] <IcedEarth> ah
[06:53] <IcedEarth> cant help you then
[06:53] <xtknight> Marelo: such as NVIDIA GeForce or ATI Radeon
[06:53] <skarface> deathplanter: right... well I guess you could try reinstalling alsa or something
[06:53] <mwe> xtknight: that's my point. .debs are not just source code though source .debs contain source code
[06:53] <Core> ---- Does someone have had trouble with 6.06LTS + SATA/Core2Duo?
[06:53] <Core> ---- Does someone have had trouble with 6.06LTS + SATA/Core2Duo?
[06:53] <Core> ---- Does someone have had trouble with 6.06LTS + SATA/Core2Duo?
[06:53] <dustigroove> out of curiosity, is there a way i might be missing to use safe graphics mode from the 6.10 alternate install cd? i want to enable the vesa driver by default (autodetect uses ati) and am performign a custom installation (ie - don't want to use the live cd)
[06:53] <mwe> Core: repeating will get you kicked, likely
[06:53] <skarface> deathplanter: right... well I guess you could try reinstalling alsa or something
[06:53] <skarface> oops
[06:53] <xtknight> dustrigroove: i believe safe graphics mode is broken on edgy
[06:54] <Core> mwe: sorry
[06:54] <xtknight> Core: plenty of people have the problem, not just you
[06:54] <Marelo> xtknight: sigh... but at the store i bought it, there were customers opinios saying that they played several games just fine... game still newer than UT.
[06:54] <dustigroove> thanks
[06:54] <xtknight> Marelo: ok, intel i915 correct?
[06:54] <jasin> libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb contains source code, its under the compressed file inside data.tar.gz
[06:54] <Marelo> xtknight: actually i used to play UT in a 16 mb video card, win 98, with 128 ram
[06:54] <Marelo> xtknight: yeah, that's right
[06:54] <Core> xtknight: so there's nothing more I can do here beyound you told me?
[06:55] <progek> can someone help me print with gvim? When I attempt it I get: E365 Failed to print PostScript file... I can't find the with google either.
[06:55] <jasin> a lot of debian packages do contain source code
[06:55] <xtknight> Core: you will have to install fedora core 6 or opensuse 10.2, no current Ubuntu has support for your board, sorry
[06:55] <progek> answer^
[06:55] <Core> mwe: I'm sad coz I want to use ubuntu but he don't recognize my machine
[06:55] <xtknight> Core: it is either that or installing ubuntu from a USB CDROM or ethernet
[06:55] <psynaps3> ah, got it working :) not to find out which option got it right...
[06:55] <pengulord> yea core 2 duo mobos dont mix with linux
[06:56] <xtknight> Core: i am running Edgy on a core 2 duo but i had to go through lots of trouble
[06:56] <mwe> jasin: if that's the case it's a rare exception to the rule for none source .debs
[06:56] <xtknight> Marelo: i think the included xorg drivers for intel can enable DRI (acceleration) for the i915
[06:56] <jasin> why do you people have problems with usb? Usb has been suported by the kernel for quit some time now.
[06:56] <psynaps3> xtknight: why is that? i din't have any problems with my core2
[06:56] <mwe> jasin: apt-get this and that is not supposed to get the source
[06:56] <xtknight> jasin: it's a chipset/core 2 duo problem
[06:56] <Marelo> xtknight: and how can i do it. the last drivers from repository are already installed
[06:56] <xtknight> psynaps3: only boards with jmicron controllers and BIOSes with screwed irq routings have issues
[06:57] <jasin> mwe, apt-get what?
[06:57] <mwe> jasin: anything
[06:57] <psynaps3> xtknight: ah fine
[06:57] <jasin> xtknight, i see
[06:57] <mwe> jasin: only apt-get source foo should get the source
[06:57] <jasin> mwe lol
[06:57] <Core> xtknight: fedora core 6 and Suse 10.2 are paid?
[06:57] <auTONYmous> core: no.
[06:57] <xtknight> Core: no they are free, sues is called opensuse 10.2 (the free one is)
[06:57] <Core> xtknight: a guy on my work loves Suse
[06:57] <Anderson> auTONYmous, no luck with the justineclarke site
[06:57] <jasin> fedora core 6 is free, you can freely download the iso's all over
[06:58] <mwe> jasin: it's true though. unless you specify apt-get source you don't get the source
[06:58] <Rio> i want to set up my vsftpd server as described by K.Mandla at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91887.html, where i would disallow anonymous logins and allow certain users.  so, my question is, where can i find the two files vsftpd.user_list and vsftpd.ftpusers?  are these files supposed to be created, and if yes, where should i put it?
[06:58] <IcedEarth> dont use SuSE yast is horrible
[06:58] <mnoir> mwe - do you know where they hid the source parm in synaptic - i cannot find it :)
[06:58] <xtknight> Core: the next version of Ubuntu should support core 2 duo without issues
[06:58] <peral2007> cmo conectar con IRC-HISPANO?
[06:58] <jasin> mwe, i know what you is talking about now.
[06:58] <IcedEarth> do you know how long it takes to get rpms from a repository
[06:58] <Core> xtknight: when it will be released?
[06:58] <progek> anyone here use gvim as their text editor?
[06:58] <jasin> mwe, yeah, thats true
[06:58] <mwe> mnoir: I don't use synaptic, sorry. I'm the command line kind
[06:58] <auTONYmous> Anderson: I'm at a loss. It appears your touchpad IS synaptics, but the xorg drivers don't support that particular model
[06:58] <alecjw> !es | peral2007
[06:58] <ubotu> peral2007: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:58] <mnoir> mwe :)
[06:58] <HardDisk_WP> hello
[06:58] <Core> xtknight: i just can't wait
[06:58] <xtknight> Core: you could also download Debian with a modified kernel, these worked awesome for me.  debian is much like ubuntu: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/
[06:58] <jasin> mew, have to download the src's
[06:58] <Core> xtknight: my Kurumim works, but is old!
[06:58] <auTONYmous> Anderson: you might be stuck with a USB mouse
[06:59] <HardDisk_WP> does anyone here know a teletext viewer for debian othert than alevt?
[06:59] <Core> xtknight: and runs only by CD
[06:59] <jasin> I dont download source code with apt-get I get it with wget
[06:59] <xtknight> Core: try the debian images i linked above
[06:59] <xtknight> core: try sarge-custom-1023.iso
[06:59] <Marelo> xtknight: sorry for bugging you, I can see you are pretty requisited here, but are you look over my issue?
[07:00] <xtknight> Marelo: its ok i need to keep myself busy ;)   sorry i am really not sure how to intel i915 dri off the top of my head
[07:00] <Core> xtknight: ok
[07:00] <xtknight> Marelo: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/df-support/8211/ENG/relnotes.htm
[07:00] <dustigroove> /exit
[07:00] <mwe> jasin: I see. apt-get source will get you any patches that are installed in ubuntu as well though
[07:00] <jasin> if i'm going to install a new kernel I wont even attempt doing it with apt-get i'll download the src from kernel.org with wget directly and compile it myself.
[07:00] <mwe> jasin: but I'd say it's sane in some cases. in other cases not ;)
[07:01] <mwe> jasin: Yeah that's what I do as well
[07:01] <jasin> mwe, that sthe bets way to do it
[07:01] <jasin> best*
[07:01] <jasin> imo
[07:01] <Marelo> xtknight: thanks. but what distro should i download? there's no debian, nor ubuntu...
[07:01] <mwe> jasin: I believe the ubuntu kernel contains quite a few patches to the vanilla sources though
[07:01] <Core> xtknight: 120 MB!
[07:02] <Core> xtknight: and i have no CD to burn!
[07:02] <auTONYmous> I've always wanted to get my hands on the Ubuntu patches
[07:02] <auTONYmous> never had any luck
[07:02] <pengulord> lol
[07:02] <xtknight> Marelo: uhhhh gee i have no idea.  type lspci and get the exact model..is it i915GM or something?  it seems like theres some suffix to i915
[07:02] <Core> xtknight: well, I think i will not be able to use my power machine today
[07:02] <mnoir> mwe - good point - you should go outside the ubuntu cocoon only if necessary
[07:02] <xtknight> Core: i guess not, you will need a cd for that debian
[07:03] <xtknight> !dri
[07:03] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[07:03] <mwe> mnoir: yeah or be prepared to fix your own problems ;)
[07:03] <chable> hey
[07:03] <mnoir> :)))
[07:03] <jasin> I like the command line, its one of the many things I love about linux
[07:03] <Core> xtknight: and about our trouble, did not you have written a how-to?
[07:03] <Marelo> xtknight: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[07:03] <chable> is there a good way of installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu 6.10 desktop
[07:03] <chable> i mean the one u got from nvidia.com
[07:03] <xtknight> Core: i have only written what i linked to you .. i may write more on the core 2 duo issue.  im still debugging jmicron problems
[07:04] <chable> C crashes
[07:04] <chable> X
[07:04] <xtknight> Marelo: thanks thats what i needed
[07:04] <Core> xtknight: ok
[07:04] <siv0x> Can anoyne lead me to a PROPER install for wine/steam/counter strike?
[07:04] <xtknight> Marelo: try http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Download
[07:05] <jasin> mwe, yes but its only in version 2.6.17.1-10.34
[07:05] <siv0x> I've installed it before.. but no luck on getting sound on cs:s. :\
[07:05] <xtknight> chable: what's the Xorg log say
[07:05] <Core> xtknight: if would exist a way to "run" the iso as it was a cd...
[07:05] <mwe> jasin: I know
[07:05] <chable> xtknight i didnt checked , i got mad
[07:05] <mwe> jasin: do you need anything in 2.6.19 ?
[07:05] <xtknight> chable: old logs are saved and they end with .0 i think
[07:05] <xtknight> chable: in /var/log/
[07:05] <jasin> mwe, its several versions behind the latest stable release on kernel.org
[07:05] <xtknight> Core: you can mount an iso if that's what you mean but i'm not sure how that would help
[07:05] <chable> xtknight, im not on ubuntu anymore
[07:05] <jasin> mwe, some
[07:05] <Amadeo> Anyone happen to know if my Plantronics DSP-500 would be supported in Ubuntu? The DSP functionality and in-line control are important to me :)
[07:05] <chable> i removed it and put another distro
[07:06] <Marelo> xtknight: thanks. what you advise a novice like me do? the binarys or the source?
[07:06] <xtknight> Marelo: binary
[07:06] <chable> IF i install ubuntu server 6.10
[07:06] <chable> i have no problem instaloing those drivers
[07:06] <chable> but on desktop , X crashes
[07:06] <asteroid> hi
[07:06] <chable> if i apt-get install nvidia-glx bla , it works
[07:06] <Core> xtknight: humm...
[07:06] <mwe> jasin: I see. then compiling your own kernel is a good idea. I don't see the point if it's only to make sure you are using the latest, though
[07:06] <Core> xtknight: i mount it
[07:06] <chable> but i want to install the drivers from nvidia official website
[07:06] <Core> xtknight: then run the installer
[07:07] <asteroid> what about linphone on 6.10 ? why video are not enable ?
[07:07] <jasin> mwe, yeah I agree
[07:07] <Core> xtknight: without needing a CD
[07:07] <xtknight> Core: i'm not familiar with that method but it may be possible
[07:08] <Core> xtknight: thank you very much for the help!
[07:08] <jasin> .20 is supposedly going to fix some data corruption problem
[07:08] <xtknight> Core: no problem, i hope it works out
[07:08] <mwe> jasin: I compile my own kernels because I don't want a generic kernel with virtually all options enabled resulting in a huge image
[07:08] <jasin> mwe, smart
[07:08] <Core> xtknight: just one thing? the new release will be when?
[07:09] <Marelo> xtknight: my xorg is 7.0, so i can ignore that page you sent me and go straight to the http://dri.freedesktop.org/snapshots/?
[07:09] <xtknight> Core: i am not sure, i think ubuntu releases every 6 months, so maybe in 4 months from now?
[07:09] <lord_ceiphas> baaack
[07:09] <mwe> jasin: I must admit I don't see much difference but I don't like the feeling of using a bloated kernel ;)
[07:09] <marcu3> !resolution
[07:09] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:09] <xtknight> Core: look at the roadmap: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[07:09] <jasin> mwe, hehe
[07:09] <UpMarc> Happy New Year All!!!
[07:09] <lord_ceiphas> xtknight: i installed your kernel-package, but now i have the problem, that i have to install the nvidi-moduke on every boot
[07:09] <mwe> UpMarc: you too
[07:09] <Core> xtknight: 6.06 is from June, so the next would be December...
[07:10] <lord_ceiphas> core, edgy is now stable
[07:10] <xtknight> lord_ceiphas: that's odd... i dont have the issue but i also use nvidia
[07:10] <HymnToLife> Core, the latest one was release in October, the next one will be April
[07:10] <UpMarc> Can someone help me with sound problems?
[07:10] <lord_ceiphas> so the latest is 6.10
[07:10] <mwe> Core: there is 6.10
[07:10] <xtknight> Marelo: uhh i think so
[07:10] <mwe> Core: 6.06 was delayed
[07:10] <mwe> Core: it was supposed to be 6.04
[07:11] <lord_ceiphas> xtknight: i had to re-compile the kernel with your config only to compile my own modules
[07:11] <n2diy> ! release
[07:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[07:11] <Core> i don't undestand: 6.06 and 6.10
[07:11] <Core> 6.10 should never exists
[07:11] <mwe> Core: why not
[07:11] <Core> 7.04
[07:11] <UpMarc> Core: why?
[07:11] <mwe> Core: 2006 month 10
[07:11] <n2diy> Core:  6.10 isn't considered to be stable.
[07:11] <mwe> Core: but as ubotu said there are two reales each year
[07:12] <lord_ceiphas> 6.06 is long-term, so support stands for 5 years... 6.10 is short-term, the support will run out faster
[07:12] <Core> nwe: coz the next release is in 6 months, so the next is 6.12
[07:12] <HymnToLife> n2diy, yes it is
[07:12] <mnoir> n2diy: of course it is
[07:12] <auTONYmous> core: nope...7.04
[07:12] <Core> n2diy: really?
[07:12] <smurf> what is the default content of /etc/issue and issue.net on edgy?
[07:12] <UpMarc> Core: I'm having sound problems with it (6.10)... need help
[07:12] <HymnToLife> Core, no, the next is 7.04
[07:12] <mwe> Core: 6.10 means 2006 releasy in month 10
[07:12] <drivera90> My connection doesn't work right :/
[07:12] <Marelo> xtknight: i'm downloading http://dri.freedesktop.org/snapshots/i915-20060403-linux.i386.tar.bz2
[07:12] <smurf> i've installed a package that changed it
[07:12] <xtknight> lord_ceiphas: sorry, but if a sensory overload here.....i forgot which problem u were having that required a kernel compile?
[07:12] <Core> n2diy: a thing i know is tha it "is not LTS"
[07:12] <smurf> i want to recover the default message
[07:12] <n2diy> HymnToLife: Not the impression I got from the website?
[07:13] <mwe> not every release is LTS, no
[07:13] <xtknight> Marelo: i only see xorg 6.9 support, i dont know about xorg 7.0 for intel i'm no familiar with intel cihps
[07:13] <flodinee> anyone running e17 that can give me a how to link for ubuntu edgy?
[07:13] <chable> it is possible to install ubuntu-desktop on debian ?
[07:13] <lord_ceiphas> xtknight: i needed to recompile to make my own modules (ralink-wlan / nvidia)
[07:13] <drivera90> I'm online, some websites work, some don't. MLDonkey refuses to connect whatsoever, I can't access one of my IRC servers, and an install through terminal failed halfway through or so.
[07:13] <mnoir> n2diy: 'stable' is like the legal definition of insanity - according to some, no os is ever 'stable'
[07:13] <Core> UpMarc: wait a moment
[07:13] <drivera90> Thoughts?
[07:13] <Core> UpMarc: i'll try
[07:13] <HymnToLife> chable, certainly, just don't expect it to be working :)
[07:13] <jasin> 2.6.19.1 gives ya 1. fixes to gcc4 mis-compiling certain things 2.     [ALSA]  Fix hang-up at disconnection of usb-audio 3.  fixes to a bunch if dell computer specific stuff, one of which is hda not mounting/unmounting properly 4.    Enables stereo line input for TAS codec 5. AHCI mode SATA patch for Intel ICH9 and so on and so on
[07:13] <Marelo> xtknight: well, it's expected to have retro-compatibility, no?
[07:13] <chable> heh :)
[07:13] <n2diy> mnoir:  :)
[07:13] <chable> then i wont
[07:13] <mwe> chable: don't you think dapper .debs will work for that?
[07:14] <chable> mwe, i dont know what to say
[07:14] <xtknight> Marelo: u mean an xorg 6.9 driver will work on 7.0?  sorry, not sure about that
[07:14] <lord_ceiphas> core, LTS stands for Long Term Support
[07:14] <UpMarc> Core: My sounf stopped working :-(
[07:14] <chable> im kinda new in linux
[07:14] <UpMarc> sound
[07:14] <chable> im on experimental stage yet
[07:14] <Core> so 6.10 is a kind of unstable, "not LTS", release?
[07:14] <dev> hi, im having problems burning software.  it keeps making coasters from a dvdrw that i know is good, because i tri-boot the machine.  in dmesg it looks like at boot its detecting my dvdrw twice, and a message about "drive appears confused"
[07:14] <smurf> can anyone please run cat /etc/issue and paste it here?
[07:14] <UpMarc> Core: I'd like to know if I can reinstall only the sound part...
[07:14] <dev> any clue why ubuntu would do this but not gentoo?
[07:14] <xtknight> lord_ceiphas: you had to recompile a kernel in order to compile modules?
[07:14] <jasin> that gcc4 fix is a good fix for devs.
[07:14] <smurf> just for me to see the default edgy message
[07:14] <n2diy> Core: That is my impression.
[07:14] <mwe> chable: well I had it intalled in dapper. I think the same procedure would work for edgy even if the debs were meant for dapper
[07:14] <mnoir> core - no it is kind of 'stable' release but not LTS
[07:14] <xtknight> dev: jmicron controller by any chance?
[07:14] <Core> UpMarc: i had trouble with this
[07:14] <domanna> hi. i`m looking for music in style like in the cartoons, when the happy worker is going smily to the work (you know what i mean)
[07:14] <Core> UpMarc: there's a icon on the desktop
[07:15] <chable> mwe,  i can install ubuntu-desktop on unbuntu
[07:15] <chable> but i was wondering if it works on a debian
[07:15] <chable> 3,.1 sarge
[07:15] <Core> mnoir: hummm....
[07:15] <mwe> chable: huh. please elaborate
[07:15] <lord_ceiphas> xtknight: yes, very odd, but without it, it would not work, and even with that i have to manually set the sources-directory
[07:15] <dev> xtknight, no i dont think so, ich8 chipset, gigabyte 965p
[07:15] <Core> It's so difficult to talk with everybody!!!!!!!!!!
[07:15] <chable> mwe, i want to install debian 3,.1 and use gnome 2
[07:15] <UpMarc> Core: yes (at this moment I'm with windows, but would like to go back to my Ubuntu)
[07:15] <chable> as desktop environment
[07:15] <mwe> chable: debian?
[07:15] <Core> UpMarc: there's a lot of options on the icon
[07:15] <xtknight> dev: i have the same board and im getting the same errors
[07:15] <chable> dont u know what debian is ?
[07:15] <Nookie> is there a chance to set in gnome what fonts kde apps will use?
[07:15] <mwe> chable: don't install ubuntu then
[07:16] <quasar8888> How can I find a driver for my printer ?
[07:16] <alecjw> chable: it might, but ubuntu is built on debain sid (or is it etch?) so it might not work
[07:16] <Core> UpMarc: there's a combination of the wich works
[07:16] <dev> xtknight, hah nice.. well, it works fine in gentoo.. im not sure why
[07:16] <UpMarc> Core: yes... which should I choose?
[07:16] <xtknight> dev: newer kernel probably
[07:16] <dan2> How do you interrupt a thread?
[07:16] <Core> UpMarc: there's a combination of them which works
[07:16] <xtknight> dev: well i still get 'drive is confused'
[07:16] <smurf> just for me to see the default edgy message
[07:16] <smurf> just for me to see the default edgy message
[07:16] <dev> xtknight, 2.6.18 vs 2.6.17 in ubuntu..
[07:16] <chable> debian doesnt have gnome 2 still ?
[07:16] <smurf> can anyone please run cat /etc/issue and paste it here?
[07:16] <UpMarc> Core: what is the combination?
[07:16] <xtknight> dev: 2.6.18 fixes jmicron issues
[07:16] <UpMarc> that works
[07:16] <Core> UpMarc: that's the point: I don't remember!
[07:16] <dev> ahhh
[07:16] <jasin> quasar, check out www.linuxprinting.org
[07:16] <lord_ceiphas> the famous intel965/jmicron/c2d-bug in 2.6.17
[07:16] <xtknight> dev: i have some kernels here if u want to try these: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326343
[07:16] <chable> checkin google
[07:16] <nolimitsoya> UpMarc, Ubuntu 6.10 \n \l
[07:17] <Core> UpMarc: did you "shaked" it very much?
[07:17] <dev> xtknight, nice man, thanks
[07:17] <xtknight> dev: i have not tried burning cds in ubuntu though, im not sure if the dvd drives on my jmicron operate correctly during burning
[07:17] <siv0x> Can anyone tell me what i did wrong by adding wine repositories in synaptic with:  deb http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb main
[07:17] <dan2> heh dumb question
[07:17] <UpMarc> Core: Shaked? lol
[07:17] <jasin> quasar, you can look under the printer list
[07:17] <mwe> chable: you could try installing ubunt-desktop on debian. the worst thing that could happen is it wouldn't work
[07:17] <chable> lol i think it works
[07:17] <dev> xtknight, i'll see whats up, i know this dvdrw is good in windows and gentoo.  so you're right its probably the kernel.
[07:17] <jasin> quasar, go there and do that
[07:17] <chable> mwe, i know :)
[07:17] <xtknight> dev: k
[07:17] <lord_ceiphas> xtknight: can you repackage an unofficial cd of edgy with 2.6.19?
[07:17] <chable> but i start tio get bored of too many installs
[07:17] <chable> :)
[07:17] <Core> UpMarc: i think the options as they are by the way you have installed is the best
[07:17] <mwe> chable: why don't you go ahead and try then ;)
[07:17] <Nookie> does anyone knows if there is a chance to set in gnome what fonts kde apps will use?????
[07:17] <UpMarc> nolimitsoya: what do you mean?
[07:18] <lord_ceiphas> i dont know how that works
[07:18] <xtknight> lord_ceiphas: i tried doing that, but i didnt have much success....very difficult... i dont know how Muto managed to repackage sarge with newer kernels
[07:18] <Core> UpMarc: from this point you just have to enter in a windows with various
[07:18] <dev> xtknight, this board given me alot of problem.  the 965p.  i feel like gigabyte released a beta product and is testing it on us :P
[07:18] <dev> xtknight, running firmware 8 and stuff
[07:18] <UpMarc> Core: I never touched those configurations... they are as installed
[07:18] <xtknight> dev: works fine in windows though
[07:18] <Core> UpMarc: with various measuring controls
[07:18] <xtknight> dev: same here, bios f8
[07:18] <mwe> Nookie: you'd set that in kcontrol even if you run the program in gnome
[07:18] <dev> xtknight, yup@! :)
[07:18] <xtknight> dev: do you have rev2.0 of DS3?
[07:18] <Core> UpMarc: good
[07:18] <dev> works ok with 2.6.18 as well
[07:18] <siv0x> Or am i just being ignored?
[07:18] <dev> xtknight, yes
[07:18] <UpMarc> Core: I saw no measuring controls...
[07:18] <Core> UpMarc: so find that window
[07:19] <Nookie> mwe: okej
[07:19] <xtknight> dev: yeah, same, well we all have the same problems
[07:19] <Jaggz-> my latest vim is 6.4 in aptitude.. but vim is at 7.0 -- how do I know if it's just not available or if my package list is updated?
[07:19] <Jaggz-> does aptitude automatically update its list?
[07:19] <UpMarc> Core: I1ll go back to Ubuntu, then come back here
[07:19] <Core> UpMarc: bellow the controls there's a checkbox
[07:19] <xtknight> dev: so how did u get ubuntu installed, or didn't you?
[07:19] <UpMarc> Core: please, wait a bit
[07:19] <mwe> Nookie: sudo apt-get install kcontrol if you don't have it
[07:19] <Core> UpMarc: try to mark or unmark them it's something like this
[07:19] <Nookie> mwe: yeah =)
[07:19] <Nookie> mwe: thanx dude
[07:19] <dev> xtknight, had no problems useing hte ich8 sata controllers, i didnt use the gigabyte ones.  woulda been impossible
[07:19] <mwe> yw
[07:19] <Core> UpMarc: ok
[07:19] <jasin> why would you need a core 2 duo on linux? Linux is fats on just about anything.
[07:19] <wielkidzi> hey
[07:19] <jasin> seems like a waste of $$
[07:20] <n2diy> Jaggz-:  apt-get update
[07:20] <dev> xtknight, didnt have any graphics problems
[07:20] <Core> jasin: what?
[07:20] <jasin> fats=fast*
[07:20] <Core> jasin: misunderstood
[07:20] <dev> (xfs 7950gt 512meg)
[07:20] <jasin> Core, yes?
[07:20] <xtknight> dev: yeah, same, but edgy wouldnt even use my ich8.  i had to use dapper.  but i had to use a usb-cdrom drive.  then usb is suppoesd to be problematic so oh wow...fortunately usb was not a problem for my config so i was able to get dapper installed then i distupgaded to edgy
[07:20] <mwe> jasin: well I guess if you run a loaded server or something it would make sense
[07:20] <Jaggz-> n2diy, thanks...  : ) :)
[07:20] <xtknight> jasin: uhhh i need it for vmware
[07:20] <jasin> mwe, if i was runing a server i would be be ussing core 2 duo cpus :p
[07:20] <Core> jasin: i need a c2d on linux coz i have a c2d
[07:21] <jasin> mwe, if i was runing a server i would not be ussing core 2 duo cpus :p
[07:21] <mwe> jasin: what then?
[07:21] <xtknight> jasin: i notice a big speed difference.  linux may run fast, but gnome is intensive
[07:21] <JosefK> are there any HTTP based LVM/Samba tools in the repo's?  I'm looking to turn a Ubuntu box into into a NAS, instead of having to use OpenFiler
[07:21] <Core> jasin: i want a linux, not windows
[07:21] <xtknight> jasin: i also use C2D for HD video
[07:21] <jasin> core, yeah, me too
[07:21] <Core> People, so 6.10 is not LTS
[07:21] <xtknight> Core: correct
[07:21] <Jaggz-> hmm.. it doesn't really show a newer version either.. in fact, it shows 6.3 .. I must have gotten some deb packages for 6.4
[07:22] <jasin> xknight, ok
[07:22] <Core> The next release showld be in december, 6.12 LTS, don't?
[07:22] <JosefK> 7.04 next
[07:22] <lord_ceiphas> is it possible to install ubuntu/kubuntu from a small bootmedia and then via inet?
[07:22] <mwe> Core: if you update every sixth month it's not so important anyway ;)
[07:22] <Core> jasin: what do you mean then?
[07:22] <JosefK> not sure about the next LTS though Core
[07:22] <Core> The next release showld be in december, 6.12 LTS, don't?
[07:22] <mnoir> Jaggz-: strange  - I thought 6.06 was up to vim 6.4
[07:22] <kitche> lord_ceiphas: yes
[07:22] <kitche> !mini
[07:22] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[07:22] <xtknight> when will Feisty Fawn final be released?
[07:22] <mwe> Core: no
[07:22] <JosefK> Core, 7.04 next
[07:22] <n2diy> Jaggz-:  How soon updates appear in apt is up to the maintainers of the apt system.
[07:22] <Jaggz-> I'm on an old ubuntu, mnoir.. but even on packages.debian I'm seeing 6.3 ..
[07:22] <funkja> how would i check what version of gnome I am using?
[07:23] <mwe> Core: there well be no 6.12. december 2006 is past so ...
[07:23] <Core> People, think.
[07:23] <UpMarc> Core: I'm in Ubuntu now... what should I do?
[07:23] <Core> Ubuntu is released by 6 months
[07:23] <marcu3> Is there an easy way to make 1440*900 available as a desktop resolution in the system->settings->screen resolution? In xorg.conf I have the three screen resolutions listed 6 times.
[07:23] <Jaggz-> http://packages.debian.org/stable/editors/vim
[07:23] <kitche> Jaggz: debian actually has 7.0 just that it's in 4.0 which hasn't been released yet
[07:23] <mnoir> Jaggz-: oic - well don't mind me - I have 7 installed everywhere
[07:23] <mwe> Core: that's cool
[07:23] <alecjw> !dvd
[07:23] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:23] <Jaggz-> Package: vim (1:6.3-071+1sarge1)
[07:23] <CheshireViking> anybody able to help me fix this error running glxgears with nvidia graphics installed "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:23] <CheshireViking> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[07:23] <CheshireViking> "
[07:23] <Core> the last LTS release is 6.06, 2006 june
[07:23] <JosefK> !vim
[07:23] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[07:23] <mwe> Core:and?
[07:24] <JosefK> !emacs
[07:24] <mnoir> Core: I knew that already
[07:24] <Core> so 6.06 + 6 months = 6.12LTS release!!!!!!
[07:24] <Jaggz-> Okay... well.. I was just trying to install a VIM plugin/script for svn/cvs integration -- and it requires vim 7
[07:24] <Core> UpMarc:
[07:24] <mwe> Core: I told you. 6.06 was delayed
[07:24] <UpMarc> Core: yeap
[07:24] <mwe> Core: was supposed to be 6.04
[07:24] <JosefK> Jaggz-, if you fancy converting, Emacs' support for SVN is damn good
[07:24] <Core> UpMarc: the sound doesn't work right?
[07:24] <mnoir> !release } Core
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about release } Core - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <UpMarc> Core: right
[07:24] <mnoir> !release | Core
[07:24] <ubotu> Core: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[07:24] <funkja> CheshireViking: do you have 3d acceleration enabled?
[07:24] <Core> nwe: delayed?
[07:25] <Jaggz-> Jose, I was tempted.. really I've been thinking of it.  I might have a hard time as I've been using vim for so many years...
[07:25] <Core> what do you mean?
[07:25] <mnoir> please go read about releases
[07:25] <n2diy> ! etchy
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about etchy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <Marelo> xtknight: i downloaded, but in the step it woul compile the drm kernel there was a error
[07:25] <mwe> Core: I mean it was not released on the initial date set
[07:25] <HymnToLife> !edgy | n2diy
[07:25] <ubotu> n2diy: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[07:25] <JosefK> Jaggz-, you're probably right, it took me a while to get used to it too
[07:25] <Marelo> gcc is installed... what ore do i need?
[07:25] <Core> UpMarc: try to find that windows
[07:25] <Core> UpMarc: try to find that window
[07:25] <Jaggz-> Jose, my idea is that I'd like to be able to, while editing some source code, and realizing that I deleted a variable from a struct.. go look back at a previous version without much difficulty -- from what I read the vim-svn plugin allows the usage of vimdiff.. and if it's done well this might be just what I need
[07:26] <CheshireViking> funkja: I'm not sure, i don't think so, how can i check?
[07:26] <Core> nwe: then whats the correct date?
[07:26] <mwe> Core: there were some bugs and it was not ready for release in april so it was deleayed
[07:26] <xtknight> Marelo: sudo apt-get install build-essential kernel-headers-`uname -r`....the rest should be listed in the intel docs somewhere
[07:26] <n2diy> HymnToLife: I was guessing at the name for the next LTS?
[07:26] <HymnToLife> n2diy, it is unknown yet
[07:26] <UpMarc> Core: you mean clicking on the voulme icon, right?
[07:26] <jasin> really dont take much to run a web server on linux, apache runs well on anything from a p1 to a p4.
[07:26] <Jaggz-> HymnToLife -- cool nick.
[07:26] <HymnToLife> or at lead unreleased
[07:26] <HymnToLife> least*
[07:26] <mnoir> n2diy: just think of some cute animal that starts with likw a Q
[07:26] <Core> UpMarc: no
[07:26] <funkja> CheshireViking: if you don't know - you most likely dont. What type of video card do you have?
[07:26] <HymnToLife> thanks Jaggz- :)
[07:26] <mwe> n2diy: you can't. the decide that at parties where they dring too much and get loaded
[07:26] <mnoir> likw=like
[07:27] <mwe> drink*
[07:27] <Core> UpMarc: right click the icon
[07:27] <Core> UpMarc: it will appears a few options
[07:27] <n2diy> I just came from one of those!
[07:27] <UpMarc> Core: then...
[07:27] <Core> UpMarc: one of them brings you to a new window
[07:27] <JosefK> Jaggz-, similar kind of thing in Emacs, and it's trivial to setup a defun/bind for an interactive function that would diff the current file against version-n, and output it to another buffer
[07:27] <mwe> n2diy: really. did you come up with a good name?
[07:27] <Core> UpMarc: with various volume controls
[07:27] <Core> UpMarc: bellow them there's a checkbox
[07:27] <wsjunior> hello.. the ubuntu bootsplash image is black and white.. is there any way to change it for the colored one?!
[07:28] <n2diy> mwe: I forget. ;)
[07:28] <CheshireViking> funkja: Ubuntu is detecting it as NV15BR Geforce2 Ultra, Bladerunner
[07:28] <wsjunior> it is black and white for amd64
[07:28] <Core> UpMarc: tell me the control labels and checkboxes
[07:28] <mwe> n2diy: I started talking about it yesterday bet the other guests told me I was too drunk and should take it easy with the beer
[07:28] <UpMarc> Core: cant see these checkboxes
[07:28] <Core> nwe: wow!
[07:28] <Core> nwe: now I undestand!
[07:28] <Jaggz-> The more I think about it, Jose, et. al., the more I'm thinking I need a modern and intelligent IDE.  Something REALLY smart.
[07:28] <mwe> Core: ;)
[07:28] <Core> UpMarc: bellow de controls....
[07:28] <n2diy> mwe: Good advice, I wish someone had told me that.
[07:28] <UpMarc> Core: no checkboxes :-(
[07:28] <Jaggz-> Perhaps even a GUI -- I spend all my time in X or on a windows system anyway.
[07:28] <mnoir> Jaggz-: for which languages?
[07:29] <Jaggz-> C
[07:29] <mwe> n2diy: heh
[07:29] <Core> UpMarc: it's a question of enabing the output
[07:29] <xtknight> Marelo: the i810 driver should work with i915gm and dri...thats about all i know regarding your situation
[07:29] <Jaggz-> less often perl
[07:29] <UpMarc> Core, just buttons
[07:29] <Core> UpMarc: :(
[07:29] <norro> hey guys. where do I file a bug that I found in the ubuntu zope3 package?
[07:29] <Jaggz-> some html fragments and templates here and there
[07:29] <Core> UpMarc: is that the righ window?
[07:29] <nnacht> Hi, has somebody succeded in installing cisco vpn client in ubuntu 6.10?
[07:29] <JosefK> !launchpad | norro
[07:29] <ubotu> norro: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[07:29] <Core> UpMarc: try another window
[07:29] <Marelo> xtknight: it said impossible to find package kernel-headers-2.6.15-27-386
[07:29] <UpMarc> Core: dont know :-(
[07:29] <jasin> bugs in ubuntu linux get patched within months, sometimes weeks. Unlike windows where it takes years just to patch the os and the patches ussaly have patches and patches for them patches.
[07:29] <Core> UpMarc: a lot of volume controls
[07:29] <xtknight> Marelo: linux-headers-`uname -r`   sorry
[07:29] <Core> UpMarc: it seems it's one for each device
[07:30] <Core> UpMarc: me too
[07:30] <Core> UpMarc: find it
[07:30] <norro> ubotu thx
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <Core> UpMarc: right click the icon on the task bar
[07:30] <UpMarc> just buttons saying: with/without sound
[07:30] <Core> UpMarc: try each option
[07:30] <funkja> CheshireViking: If you go to www.getautomatix.com and get automatix, there is an option in there to install nvidia's 3d acceleration drivers
[07:30] <Core> UpMarc: yeah!
[07:30] <Core> UpMarc: i guess it's it!
[07:30] <Marelo> ubotu woman
[07:30] <mwe> !automatix
[07:30] <Jaggz-> My idea of a nice editor's features:  * Show more code at once:  at the top and bottom of the display, "taper off" code by shrinking the font size -- a sort of magnifying glass, but more natural (showing the flat plateau of the current code .. not some weird disorienting thing).
[07:30] <Marelo> :)
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about woman - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <mnoir> !automatix
[07:30] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:30] <jasin> launchad is great it has all the bugs listed and whats fixed and being fixed.
[07:30] <n2diy> !automatix
[07:30] <xtknight> Marelo: i'm going AFK for a bit, I'll have to help you later
[07:31] <jasin> launchpad is great it has all the bugs listed and whats fixed and being fixed.
[07:31] <Core> UpMarc: i guess you know what to do now :)
[07:31] <mwe> n2diy: copycat ;)
[07:31] <CheshireViking> funkja: rite, ok, thanks i've got Automatix2 installed, i'll have a look at that
[07:31] <nnacht> somebody runs Cisco VPN in ubuntu 6.10?
[07:31] <Marelo> xtknight: ok... :/ thanks for everything!
[07:31] <Jaggz-> * If I move to some part of code, hitting a key to show me, to the side, the previous version and the differences -- another key would go another version back.
[07:31] <JosefK> nnacht, never Cisco VPN, I used vpnc instead
[07:31] <mnoir> automatix is so bad it needs saying twice
[07:31] <jasin> a cisco vpn in ubuntu???? say what.
[07:31] <Core> nwe: i have here 5.10
[07:31] <n2diy> mwe: I'm typing sloooww today.
[07:31] <JosefK> Jaggz-, emacs can do that easily
[07:31] <Jaggz-> * Another earlier-version view would be like "undo", not going back into svn land, but just in the current edit session
[07:31] <mwe> n2diy: heh
[07:31] <UpMarc> Core: I've tried them all... they dont change anything
[07:31] <Jaggz-> but showing it kind of to the side
[07:31] <Core> nwe: the next shgould be 6.04
[07:31] <nnacht> JosefK, i tryed with vpnc, but it does not work, should I do something with the kernel?
[07:32] <JosefK> Jaggz-, sure, just split the window horizontally
[07:32] <Core> nwe: but was 6.10
[07:32] <JosefK> Jaggz-, http://randolphcarter.myby.co.uk/linux/emacs.png - my rails model editing setup
[07:32] <Jaggz-> Jose, right.. so I need to split it horizontally and load an earlier version
[07:32] <JosefK> Jaggz-, tiny 8 line emacs-lisp script to setup those windows
[07:32] <Core> nwe: that is: 6.04 was dropped
[07:32] <gnomefreak> Core: 6.06
[07:32] <Core> nwe: but why 6.10 is not LTS???
[07:33] <gnomefreak> Core: 2 month extended time for devel on dapper
[07:33] <Core> gnomefreak: true!!!! sorry!!!!!!
[07:33] <gnomefreak> should have been 6.04 was 6.06
[07:33] <mnoir> core: why is sky blue?
[07:33] <nnacht> jasin, I tried to complie a module, but it failed
[07:33] <Core> gnomefreak: i have it here god....
[07:33] <mwe> gnomefreak: I told him twice ;)
[07:33] <jasin> nnacht,  that sucks
[07:33] <gnomefreak> ;)
[07:34] <nnacht> jasin, yes, it seems that the kernel should be patched, i just don't know how
[07:34] <Jaggz-> okay.. so what.. install xemacs?
[07:34] <Core> mnoir: but why 6.10 is not LTS???
[07:34] <Core> mnoir: what's LTS exactly?
[07:34] <mnoir> same reason sky is blue
[07:34] <gnomefreak> Core: because 6.06 is
[07:34] <mwe> mnoir: right, for the fourth time ;)
[07:34] <JosefK> to get the font anti-aliasing, I'm using a newer build of emacs-snapshot-gtk, two secs, I'll get a link
[07:34] <flossgeek> LTS = Long term support
[07:34] <mwe> mnoir: sorry that was for Core
[07:34] <jasin> patching the kernel is relativly easy,  patch -p0
[07:34] <Core> mnoir: the sky is blue coz God is a boy!
[07:34] <hassan2a> Bonsoir
[07:34] <mnoir> Core: go. read. web. page. about. releases.
[07:34] <hassan2a> happy holidays
[07:34] <hassan2a> all
[07:35] <JosefK> Jaggz-, http://debs.peadrop.com/dists/edgy/backports/
[07:35] <eniac> I just installed ubuntu on my acer 1640 but the X server won't work I'm really disapointed by this
[07:35] <mwe> hassan2a: thanks. I have to go to a lecture tomorrow though ;)
[07:35] <nolimitsoya> is there any solution to the windows utf8problem?
[07:35] <UpMarc> Core: nothing works :-(
[07:35] <jasin> http://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/kernelpatch/
[07:35] <hassan2a> mwe:  what ?
[07:35] <timo901> !botsnack
[07:35] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:35] <UpMarc> Core: is there a way of reinstalling all sound system?
[07:35] <Core> UpMarc: i resolved for that
[07:35] <Core> UpMarc: i resolved by that
[07:36] <eniac> is there a way I can install or configure X11 myself ?
[07:36] <helpmeeeee-plz> hey. really need help about installing ubuntu on an existing linux dist..
[07:36] <eniac> without going into xorg.conf
[07:36] <helpmeeeee-plz> can anybody help me?
[07:36] <mwe> hassan2a: I have to go to the university tomorrow. my holday is over
[07:36] <Core> UpMarc: sorry cz i have not 6.10 installed here so that I can help you
[07:36] <gnomefreak> eniac: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:36] <mnoir> eniac: the answer is yes but i sense it is not the real question
[07:36] <Core> UpMarc: i don't think it's necessary
[07:36] <Core> UpMarc: try the following:
[07:36] <eniac> mnoir: it's linux for humans !
[07:36] <Core> UpMarc: enable all the options: "with sound"
[07:37] <UpMarc> Core: they are all enabled
[07:37] <mwe> UpMarc: why not fix it instead of reainstalling though?
[07:37] <jasin> helpmeeee-plz, insert the cd, start up the computer, when you get to the desktop .. click install
[07:37] <gihel2> quit
[07:37] <jasin> helpmeeee-plz, its that simple, it really is.
[07:37] <UpMarc> mwe: that's my preference (fixxing)
[07:37] <Core> UpMarc: open the examples folder which contains a video and sounds to test
[07:37] <mwe> gihel2: no I want to stay
[07:37] <timo901> helpmeeeee-plz: do it you normaly install ubuntu just dont format you drive
[07:37] <Jaggz-> hmm.. hold on.. cygwin's not popping up startx.. grumble.  :)
[07:37] <Core> UpMarc: then try another option
[07:38] <eniac> gnomefreak: xserver-xorg isn't installed
[07:38] <UpMarc> Core: wwhere is this folder?
[07:38] <eniac> when I do sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg it doesn't exist
[07:38] <gnomefreak> eniac: than install X
[07:38] <MuffY> woohoo, i'm finally running Ubuntu =)
[07:38] <Core> UpMarc: i remember there's a combo where you select the output device or something like taht
[07:38] <jasin> tim0, he will have to format / at least
[07:38] <nolimitsoya> eniac, then you have a repo/apt problem
[07:38] <gnomefreak> eniac: what DE do you want?
[07:38] <jasin> tim0, ubuntu install makes you
[07:38] <Core> UpMarc: tell me something:
[07:38] <mwe> !info xserver-xorg
[07:38] <gnomefreak> eniac: you want gnome, kde,xfce?
[07:38] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 584 kB
[07:38] <timo901> eniac: sudo nano
[07:38] <Core> UpMarc: how do you know sound does no work???
[07:39] <JosefK> http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/Version-Control.html - more info on VC in emacs
[07:39] <eniac> gnomefreak: I want a working ubuntu
[07:39] <eniac> gnomefreak: I want a working X11
[07:39] <Core> UpMarc: are you trying to play a sound file?
[07:39] <gnomefreak> eniac: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:39] <n2diy> MuffY: congrats!
[07:39] <MuffY> :)
[07:39] <Jaggz-> not to be too irritating -- but why is the windows emacs subdir (http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/windows/) having files that are tar.gz'ed?
[07:39] <gnomefreak> eniac: that will install X and everything else you need
[07:39] <MuffY> anyone has a nice beginners guide?
[07:39] <hacked`> guys
[07:39] <dv5237> www.ubuntu.com?
[07:39] <mwe> eniac: I gues your sources.list is broken if you can't install xorg
[07:39] <UpMarc> Core: no sound when Ubuntu starts, no sound playing music or whatching films (VLC, MPlayer, Beep, or any other)
[07:39] <MuffY> with some common terminal commands, places you shoud put things, etc etc
[07:39] <hacked`> anyone here an expert in grep ?
[07:39] <timo901> jasin:he will have to creat a partition not format his whole drive
[07:39] <gnomefreak> MuffY: help.ubuntu.com
[07:39] <eniac> gnomefreak: gonne try that thanks
[07:40] <gnomefreak> kacgrep just searches dont think you need to be expert
[07:40] <gnomefreak> hacked`: grep just searches
[07:40] <hacked`> ya but theres like 1 million options
[07:40] <n2diy> MuffY: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz
[07:40] <Core> UpMarc: that Folder contains a video with Nelson Mandela
[07:40] <hacked`> cause like i have a directory called "test", and in that dir, there are subdirs, and in each of those subdirs i have a dir called "specific", is there any way that to use grep to find files like ".tlg" in the specific dirs?
[07:40] <eniac> gnomefreak: doesn't do the trick
[07:40] <gnomefreak> eniac: what does it say
[07:40] <Core> UpMarc: try the menu Places
[07:41] <Aar0n444> Hi
[07:41] <Core> UpMarc: i'm sorry
[07:41] <MuffY> hmm, nice one :p  I thought help.ubuntu was for real 'problems', but i'll look for a beginnes guide too
[07:41] <MarcN> hacked`: so what is your grep question?
[07:41] <mnoir> hacked`: look at the R option
[07:41] <JosefK> Jaggz-, probably because they're free, and can easily be decompressed on windows :)
[07:41] <Aar0n444> Is it possible to install the linux-headers from the CD? Or do I need the DVD. (I can't apt get)
[07:41] <hacked`> see what im saying, i just want to search "/hi/*/specific/*.tlg*"
[07:41] <gnomefreak> Aar0n444: cd might have them
[07:41] <helpmeeeee-plz> hey folks.. why am i getting Filesystems used by the system (/, /boot, /usr, /var) must be reformatted for use by this installer. Other filesystems (/home, /media/*, /usr/local, etc.) may be used without reformatting.
[07:41] <mwe> hacked`: find test|grep '\.tlg'
[07:41] <helpmeeeee-plz> at the 5th step?
[07:41] <eniac> gnomefreak: it's in dutch
[07:41] <MuffY> n2diy: yours looks nice :O
[07:41] <MuffY> yay dutch!
[07:41] <UpMarc> I saw devices in "Preferences / Sounds"... but nothing works there...
[07:42] <gnomefreak> eniac: give me the round about of what it says
[07:42] <eniac> gnomefreak: say's someting like 0 packets this 0 packets that
[07:42] <Jaggz-> jose, fair enough :)
[07:42] <eniac> gnomefreak: and 2 packets not upgraded
[07:42] <MuffY> i'll translate it to english =)
[07:42] <mnoir> hacked`: that is simple:  grep -R string *.tlg
[07:42] <gnomefreak> eniac: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:42] <gnomefreak> eniac: does it tell you anything else?
[07:42] <Jaggz-> do you guys code in windows?
[07:42] <MarcN> hacked`: look at find and use something like   find . -iname '*.tlg' -printf "grep -H test %p\n" | sh
[07:43] <Core> does someone know a little linux wich runs on a  c2d + sata + ddr2??????????????????????????????????????????????
[07:43] <Moosebuntu> What does it mean when a how-to instructs me to do this: Then insert the Quake 3 Arena-CD in your local CD- or DVD-ROM and mount it.  # mount /media/cdrom (for /media/cdrom use the directory, where your CD-Drive is usually mounted)
[07:43] <Moosebuntu> where do I put this?
[07:43] <helpmeeeee-plz> hey guys? i am trying to install ubuntu without formatting my partiton /dev/hda2
[07:43] <timo901> helpmeeeee-plz: did it ask you the select the drive to install ubuntu and also did you tell it to create space automatically
[07:43] <Jaggz-> I'd like to write a small C program in windows sometime.  I've not done coding in MS stuff since DOS days, and a couple visual basic programs.
[07:43] <helpmeeeee-plz> but at the 5.th step i get Filesystems used by the system (/, /boot, /usr, /var) must be reformatted for use by this installer. Other filesystems (/home, /media/*, /usr/local, etc.) may be used without reformatting.
[07:43] <jasin> tim, if he has linux installed, which he said he does, he already has parititon.
[07:43] <Core> does someone know a little linux wich runs on a  c2d + sata + ddr2??????????????????????????????????????????????
[07:43] <jasin> tim, if he has linux installed, which he said he does, he already has parititons.
[07:43] <HymnToLife> helpmeeeee-plz, it's a very bad idea
[07:43] <Seveas> !repeat | Core
[07:43] <ubotu> Core: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:43] <HymnToLife> to install onto a not clean FS
[07:44] <UpMarc> Core: before all this happenned, there was a conflict between playing films and a game site called Pogo which works with Java they never worked together... just either one or the other... now none works...
[07:44] <n2diy> Moosebuntu: Insert the CD, Ubuntu should auto mount it.
[07:44] <helpmeeeee-plz> but i really need to cover my projects around 50GB
[07:44] <gnomefreak> eniac: can you paste the error to pastebin
[07:44] <helpmeeeee-plz> and i dont have to loose them
[07:44] <Jaggz-> oh, by the way.. do you all use xpdf?
[07:44] <HymnToLife> helpmeeeee-plz, save them somewhere else befor instaling them
[07:44] <Moosebuntu> n2diy> That's kinda what I thought.  I didn't understand why it told me to mount the CD-ROM drive otherwise.
[07:44] <Jaggz-> try kpdf, if you haven't.
[07:44] <Moosebuntu> thx
[07:44] <helpmeeeee-plz> is there really no way?
[07:44] <jasin> helpmeeeeeee you dont have to format /usr, /home, /media ,etc.. parititions, its actually a bad idea to format those partitions.
[07:45] <drivera90> Bah
[07:45] <helpmeeeee-plz> well i am not formatting anything
[07:45] <jasin> helpmeeee, if you have a / partition you might have to format that, thats about it.
[07:45] <mwe> who has a partition for /media?
[07:45] <helpmeeeee-plz> but installer asks me to select a partition
[07:45] <HymnToLife> helpmeeeee-plz, you need to format /
[07:45] <mwe> isn't that supposed to be a mount point?
[07:45] <drivera90> My connection is completely temperamental and won't access certain things, yet accesses other things perfectly
[07:45] <drivera90> Thoughts?
[07:45] <jasin> mwe, never heard of that but he was talking about having one
[07:45] <mwe> jasin: sound weird though
[07:45] <n2diy> mwe: I have a /media directory, but not a partition.
[07:46] <Core> UpMarc: sorry
[07:46] <mwe> n2diy: yeah
[07:46] <timo901> helpmeeeee-plz:yess select a empty partition
[07:46] <jasin> mwe, that's what I was thinking
[07:46] <UpMarc> Core: np
[07:46] <Core> UpMarc: i dont have mubuntu here
[07:46] <gnomefreak> mwe: /media would normally be usb device or cd rom
[07:46] <mwe> n2diy: /media is for mount points. removable media and such
[07:46] <Core> UpMarc: is java intalled?
[07:46] <UpMarc> Core: may be someone else can help me
[07:46] <mwe> gnomefreak: that's my point ;)
[07:46] <helpmeeeee-plz> i have an  idea! if i will be back in 30 mins then it means that i really found a way
[07:46] <helpmeeeee-plz> !
[07:46] <gnomefreak> :)
[07:46] <n2diy> mwe: yep
[07:46] <Core> UpMarc: yes
[07:46] <Core> UpMarc: ask it publicly
[07:46] <UpMarc> Core: someone who has ubuntu 6.10 installed
[07:47] <HymnToLife> helpmeeeee-plz, just save your stuff somewhere else and format the partition afterwards
[07:47] <mwe> n2diy: so we all agree. that's great ;)
[07:47] <UpMarc> Core: ty anyway
[07:47] <Core> UpMarc: ask for all
[07:47] <Core> UpMarc: someone will appear
[07:47] <UpMarc> Core: and Happy New Year!
[07:47] <n2diy> mwe: Happy New Year! :)
[07:47] <helpmeeeee-plz> does anybody know the root password?
[07:47] <helpmeeeee-plz> on the live cd?
[07:47] <UpMarc> Can someone help me with sound problems?
[07:47] <mwe> n2diy: you too
[07:47] <Seveas> !root | helpmeeeee-plz
[07:47] <Core> UpMarc: for you too...
[07:47] <ubotu> helpmeeeee-plz: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:47] <mnoir> !root
[07:47] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:47] <eniac> gnomefreak: done that , startx gives me the same result
[07:47] <timo901> you dont need one do you
[07:47] <Kiongku> !samba
[07:47] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:48] <gnomefreak> eniac: and the error is?
[07:48] <mwe> UpMarc: yeah turn down the speakers
[07:48] <timo901> helpmeeeeeeee-plx: what dose sudo -i say ?
[07:48] <jasin> The /media/cdrom0 links back to /dev/hdc, that is .. if hdc is your cdrom.
[07:48] <UpMarc> mwe: ok,,, then...
[07:48] <Seveas> jasin, it does not
[07:48] <Seveas> /dev/cdrom links to /dev/hdc
[07:48] <jasin> it does on my system
[07:49] <Seveas> /media/cdrom is only the mountpoint
[07:49] <Moosebuntu> Does anyone else have this warm fuzzy feeling when they install Ubuntu, instead of upgrading to the draconian WIndows Vista, and shafting Microsoft out of any more control over thyself?
[07:49] <jasin> I got a /media/cdrom0
[07:49] <hassan2a> can you help me ?
[07:49] <Seveas> Moosebuntu, I don't. I haven't touched vista yet :)
[07:49] <Dunca1> Has anyone had any luck installing Oebe Sync (from www.mp3tunes.com) on Ubuntu Edgy?
[07:49] <n2diy> Moosebuntu: yep
[07:49] <jasin> and a /media/cdrom
[07:49] <Seveas> jasin, which is the mountpoint of /dev/cdrom
[07:49] <timo901> Moosebuntu:you are now in control ;)
[07:49] <Seveas> etc..
[07:49] <seamus_ie> hey all, I have a new laptop with a amd turion64 uP, I also have a very slow internet connection so what i'm wondering is if there is much difference between the standard ubuntu cd and the amd 64bit cd apart from the kernel, which I can download a lot easier than the whole cd
[07:50] <jasin> seveas, not on my system its not. /dev/hdc is the mount point on my system.
[07:50] <Jaggz-> yay.. emacs is installed
[07:50] <mwe> I'd rather buy a new laptop than vista. they cost about the same if you want the full featured vista version
[07:50] <m12> how do you change window managers?  I just downloaded one, and then restarted X.org, but i'm still in gnome now.
[07:50] <chable> seamus_ie, i think u should choose the amd64 cd
[07:50] <Seveas> jasin, ls -lad /dev/hdc and paste the output
[07:50] <gnomefreak> that doesnt sound right :(
[07:50] <seamus_ie> chable: Why?
[07:50] <HymnToLife> m12, you choose which DE you want to start at the login screen
[07:51] <n2diy> m12: select options at the login screen?
[07:51] <Moosebuntu> heh
[07:51] <m12> ohh ok, i thought that was a gnome login screen.
[07:51] <Dunca1> chatus: eer installed a 64bit edition? half the hardware drivers aren't available, and 32bit programs have to run in a 32bit emulator, so they run slower
[07:51] <n2diy> m12: it is, but you have options. :)
[07:51] <Moosebuntu> Seveas> Neither have I.  Nor do I intend to touch it.  I just wish it had better support for gaming.
[07:51] <chable> seamus_ie, because its suites your cpu
[07:52] <m12> n2diy:  then how do i change back if i don't like the new one?  will it have a login screen that is similar?
[07:52] <Dunca1> seamus: there's not enough 64bit optimized software for linux (or windows) to justify it - I've got a Athlon 64
[07:52] <n2diy> m12: I don't know, but I would think so?
[07:52] <seamus_ie> chable: yes I know but I don't want to spend 24 hours downloading the cd when I have the 32 bit version if the only big difference is the kernel
[07:52] <m12> ok thanks
[07:52] <HymnToLife> m12, the login screen won't change unless you tel it to
[07:52] <n2diy> m12: It is probably defaulting to gnome?
[07:53] <timo901> Moosebuntu:i know , i will have to have a install of vutsa for games :(
[07:53] <seamus_ie> Dunca1: you mean that its not worth my while getting the 64bit cd
[07:53] <Jaggz-> any users of xpdf just go running to try kpdf?
[07:53] <chable> seamus_ie, sorry then
[07:53] <jasin> The mount point varies from system to system.
[07:53] <chable> :(
[07:53] <Jaggz-> what a pretty sparrow-like bird outside.. mustard colored feathers.
[07:53] <eniac> ok I was trying to install  ubuntu version 4
[07:53] <timo901> i feel a pirated os comming on
[07:53] <chable> i think 64 bit runs faster
[07:53] <eniac> found a version 5 disk would that be any better
[07:54] <eniac> think version 4 was still using XFree86
[07:54] <acm> how do i use an older kernel w/edgy?
[07:54] <Dunca1> seamus: yes, your 32bit emulated programs will run slower (except video encoder/decoders and database engines) and your hardware will be much harder to configure
[07:54] <timo901> chable:i hate to disgree with you man
[07:54] <HymnToLife> acm, just apt-get it from an older repo
[07:54] <PriceChild> acm: build it yourself?
[07:54] <PriceChild>  or that
[07:55] <chable> timo901, do u think 64 bit cpus dont run faster then normal cpus
[07:55] <acm> there is no easy aptitude cmd to d/l and install..
[07:55] <jasin> chable, in linux it does
[07:55] <Dunca1> chable: I presumed the 64bit version would be better for me when I first got my athlon 64 too, they explain it better in the ubuntu forums tho (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185303)
[07:55] <chable> in windows too
[07:55] <boblics> hello, i have a mounted ntfs partition
[07:55] <HymnToLife> ctually, I'd rather download the DEBs from packages.ubuntu.com and install it manually
[07:55] <boblics> but i only have read access to it
[07:55] <boblics> how do i change that?
[07:56] <HymnToLife> !ntfs | boblics
[07:56] <ubotu> boblics: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[07:56] <Jordan_U> acm: Change your sources.list to dapper or brezy and install the kernel then change it back.
[07:56] <boblics> thanks
[07:56] <acm> k, thakns
[07:56] <nolimitsoya> boblics, sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g - then mount with -t ntfs-3g
[07:56] <fab5freddy> i am trying to install 6.10 64 edition but the cd crashes..
[07:56] <timo901> chable:yess i have a 64 bit not only did i not see a difference ,benchmarks show no improvement but a Delcine
[07:56] <chable> i see timo901
[07:56] <chable> im not on amd
[07:56] <chable> never been
[07:56] <nolimitsoya> timo901, you need 64bit applications to benefit
[07:56] <chable> i just thought logical
[07:56] <dev> xtknight, that kernel makes my pata drives go away
[07:56] <Marelo> damn!! how difficult could be to run unreal tournament in linux!
[07:56] <fab5freddy> i am on an amd 64 x2
[07:57] <nolimitsoya> Marelo, not very :)
[07:57] <Marelo> sometimes i think just to give up and go back do windows
[07:57] <chable> i run 3.4 dual core Intel pentium
[07:57] <jasin> nolimitsoya, and a 64 bit os
[07:57] <Jordan_U> Marelo: Noooooo :)
[07:57] <nolimitsoya> jasin, yes, that to :)
[07:57] <Moosebuntu> Marelo> blasphemy!
[07:57] <fab5freddy> is ubuntu the best linux distro for 64 bit?
[07:57] <Marelo> hehehehehe
[07:57] <Moosebuntu> :)
[07:57] <timo901> nolimitsoya:i know but ubuntu 64 has a browser with 64 bit support and even that is is not impressive
[07:57] <nolimitsoya> Marelo, just get the shell script, execute it and you are done
[07:58] <boblics> !fuse
[07:58] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:58] <jasin> nolimitsoya, a lot of people dont realize that they need hardware and apps that support 64bit cpus and they just go out and buy a 64bit cpu, big mistake too.
[07:58] <nolimitsoya> timo901, perhaps youve hit another bottleneck than you rprocessor :)
[07:58] <Marelo> nolimitsoya: ooooooooooooooo no! i've been trought a lot more than that
[07:58] <nolimitsoya> Marelo, what have you been doing wrong then? ;)
[07:58] <chable> windows xp 64 sox
[07:58] <chable> big time
[07:58] <domanna> Saddam [*] 
[07:58] <HymnToLife> jasin, buying a non-64 bit CPU is getting difficult nowadays :p
[07:58] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[07:58] <Jordan_U> ubotu ntfs-3g
[07:58] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:59] <kingace> hello, i installed kde and xfce over top of regular ubuntu, but how do i switch back to gdm?
[07:59] <jasin> I'm happy with my 3ghz celery cpu :p
[07:59] <timo901> nolimitsoya: i have a theory that 64 was for security
[07:59] <timo901> nolimitsoya: mostly DRM
[07:59] <Music_Shuffle> kingace, at the login screen, select 'Session' and change it to whatever.
[07:59] <HymnToLife> kingace, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[07:59] <jasin> no need for 64 bit here.
[07:59] <Marelo> nolimitsoya: i wish i knew. but there's the thing... i'm supposed to DON'T NEED to do anything besides installing the game. see what i mean?
[07:59] <Music_Shuffle> Or that :P
[07:59] <kingace> uh.. which one
[07:59] <nolimitsoya> timo901, thats not true :)
[07:59] <jasin> hymntolife, not really
[07:59] <Dunca1> :S there's nothing wrong with 64bit CPU's - they run just as quick in 32bit as they should
[08:00] <jasin> hymntolife, chekc pricewatch
[08:00] <Dunca1> they just have the extra capability to do 64bit
[08:00] <timo901> nolimitsoya: we will have to agree to disagree
[08:00] <nolimitsoya> Marelo, you dont. just copy the shell script from the cd, set the x bit, execute it, follow the install through and launch the game
[08:00] <Marelo> linux is so complicated to certain things that we (novices) end up giving up... things that were supposed to be easy. like installing a game.
[08:00] <nolimitsoya> timo901, read up please. drm has nothing to do with it
[08:00] <chable> linux is simple
[08:00] <Marelo> nolimitsoya: i installed the game alright. but it's freezing! like what, 8 fps!
[08:00] <HymnToLife> Marelo, it's not difficule, you're just not used to it
[08:00] <HymnToLife> t*
[08:00] <mwe> Marelo: most games dont't work in linux no matter if you're a pro or not
[08:00] <nolimitsoya> Marelo, then you need graphics drivers
[08:01] <Marelo> mwe: this one works. it's unreal tournament
[08:01] <nolimitsoya> mwe, but thats not the case here, so...
[08:01] <chable> happy new year anyway
[08:01] <mwe> Marelo: yeah
[08:01] <seamus_ie> so Dunca1 are you now running the 32 bit kernel?
[08:01] <Marelo> nolimitsoya: i tried
[08:01] <jasin> 64bit is supposedly more effecient but like nolimitsoya said, all your apps must be 64bit for you to benefit.
[08:01] <nolimitsoya> Marelo, but...?
[08:01] <Jordan_U> Marelo: Installing a linux game on windows is much harder than installing a windows game on linux, remember that that game was NOT meant to be installed on linux thus it may not be so easy
[08:01] <Marelo> nolimitsoya: guess? but no changes!
[08:01] <chable> seamus_ie, just install the normal ubuntu
[08:02] <nolimitsoya> Marelo, then you probably didnt do it right
[08:02] <Dunca1> Marelo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82987 hopefully that'll help :)
[08:02] <nolimitsoya> Marelo, nvidia or ati?
[08:02] <chable> im burning the iso now
[08:02] <Marelo> nolimitsoya: intel
[08:02] <chable> i like 10 mb/sec connection
[08:02] <chable> :)
[08:02] <arrenlex> jasin: On a normal desktop system, you will not even notice a difference. 64-bit only matters if you have unusual demands, like 4GB RAM, or if you're running a sever.
[08:02] <Music_Shuffle> So...neither.
[08:02] <rio> who do you install rpm files that you have already downloaded?
[08:02] <mwe> Marelo: I get accelerated 3d on intel. poor performance though
[08:02] <chable> rio, rpm -Uvh
[08:02] <timo901> nolimitsoya: I mean surely you cant say there is a vast improvement over 32 bit
[08:02] <nolimitsoya> Marelo, then i wouldnt expect any more than you are getting...
[08:02] <Jordan_U> !alien | rio
[08:02] <ubotu> rio: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:02] <jasin> hell, 64 bit is really nothing, 64 bit microprocessor have been around for over 8 years now.
[08:02] <mwe> Marelo: no chance I'd be able to play UT
[08:03] <nolimitsoya> timo901, yes i can. as i said, read up
[08:03] <Marelo> nolimitsoya: why?
[08:03] <arrenlex> Marelo: what's the output of "glxinfo | grep ender"?
[08:03] <Marelo> mwe: why?
[08:03] <nolimitsoya> Marelo, the cards are slow to begin with :)
[08:03] <jasin> hell, there's already 256bit microprocessors on the market, granted their not x86 tho.
[08:03] <kitche> jasin: well considering x86_64 is not 64bit really there isnt much of a difference
[08:03] <Marelo> arrenlex: just a minute
[08:03] <rio> Jordan_U quiet dangerous... in what way?
[08:03] <mwe> Marelo: because the linux driver gives me poor performance
[08:03] <jasin> kitche, true
[08:03] <chable> anyone of u are on #debian also ?
[08:03] <mwe> Marelo: I can play tuxracer though
[08:04] <Marelo> nolimitsoya: but the game isn't heavy
[08:04] <jasin> arrenlex, not on winblows you wont
[08:04] <arrenlex> jasin: ?
[08:04] <jasin> arrenlex, 64 xp is crap
[08:04] <mnoir> !anyone | chable
[08:04] <Dunca1> Everyone: Could someone sign up to mp3tunes.com and attempt to install the oebe sync program? - it won't work for me :(
[08:04] <Dunca1> I've already followed the instructions here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=325151
[08:04] <Dunca1> but to no avail :(
[08:04] <ubotu> chable: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:04] <chable> ok burning process completed
[08:04] <Jordan_U> rio: Dangerous in that it could ruin your entire install, probably won't but could, If it is a source RPM you should be fine but don't quote me on that :)
[08:04] <chable> im not talking with robots
[08:04] <Marelo> Dunca1: i already sae that, and others topics too
[08:04] <arrenlex> jasin: I wouldn't know. Regardless, 64-bit does not pose significant benefits for desktop users. It just makes the executables bigger.
[08:04] <Marelo> Dunca1: but thanks still
[08:04] <timo901> jasin: i need to get me one of those 256 bit cpu
[08:04] <chable> ill be back
[08:05] <rio> Jordan_U interesting... thanks
[08:05] <timo901> must be very fast
[08:05] <chable> im gone ( blondie is fat )
[08:05] <cybrjoe> anyone know of a media sharing app similar to the new winamp remote stuff?
[08:05] <mwe> arrenlex: wouldn't it be a benefit if the programs were optimized?
[08:05] <Dunca1> cybrjoe: what does the winamp thing do?
[08:05] <nolimitsoya> timo901, its not that simple...
[08:05] <jasin> arrenlex, the bit width  the cpu can chunk is larger, I know how it works.
[08:05] <Jordan_U> timo901: Only if you are doing certain kinds of encryption
[08:05] <acm> erf, i can only find kernel-image-2.4.27-2 when i switch to dapper...
[08:05] <Dunca1> cybrjoe: does it let you access your mp3 collection remotely?
[08:05] <arrenlex> mwe: Yes. However, the current programs are only COMPILED for the 64-bit set, and pose no benefits.
[08:05] <hendrickvp> what was the command for setting write permission for a folder to anyone?
[08:05] <cybrjoe> Duncal, yea, not NAT setup or anything
[08:05] <curs0r> anyone know a qick command to scan a block of ip addresses for an ftp server?
[08:05] <Marelo> arrenlex: directe rendering: no; OpenGL render string: Mesa X11
[08:06] <nolimitsoya> hendrickvp, chmod
[08:06] <cybrjoe> Dunca1, no* ... you just point your browser
[08:06] <Jordan_U> timo901: For desktop tasks it is unbelievably slow actually
[08:06] <hendrickvp> tnx
[08:06] <arrenlex> Marelo: "direct rendering: no" indicates to me you don't have 3D acceleration.
[08:06] <arrenlex> Marelo: That's not exactly what it says, but you can't have 3D accel without direct rendering.
[08:06] <Dunca1> cybrjoe: that's what mp3tunes.com does i think; you upload your music collection and then it lets you play/download it from any PC
[08:06] <Marelo> arrenlex: but my card have it, doesn't it? its a Intel i915
[08:07] <Core> Hey how you passed the year???
[08:07] <Dunca1> (without software on the other PCs, you just goto the website)
[08:07] <timo901> nolimitsoya:if we want improvement we going o have to get new better motherboards and software to make the best out of these 256 bit CPU
[08:07] <Marelo> i915GM/GMS
[08:07] <nolimitsoya> Marelo, but its not configured to use it
[08:07] <Jordan_U> arrenlex: Or possibly that you are using XGL ( which you shouldn't need to be with an intel card )
[08:07] <Core> Here in Rio de Janeiro we had Black Eyed Peas!!!!!!!!
[08:07] <cybrjoe> Dunca1, yea, i'm still not convinced its a good idea to upload all my music to a remote server
[08:07] <nolimitsoya> timo901, no, its not that simple either. please read up and understand what the bit width is a ll about. wikipedia is a good start
[08:07] <arrenlex> Jordan_U: Unless I miss my guess, if you are running XGL your applications don't get accel anyway. Yes?
[08:07] <arrenlex> Marelo: and you have xserver-xorg-video-i810 installed?
[08:07] <cybrjoe> Dunca1, i was looking for a more local solution
[08:07] <timo901> nolimitsoya:i bet there will be 512 bit CPU too
[08:08] <Jordan_U> arrenlex: Yes, that was my point :)
[08:08] <Marelo> nolimitsoya: then how can i configure to use it?
[08:08] <Marelo> arrenlex: yes
[08:08] <k0> anyone know of any good organizers too keep all my tasks and things
[08:08] <LinTux> My menus are scrolling slow. anybody got any ideas how I can solve this?
[08:08] <arrenlex> Marelo: And you're not running XGL or something like that? Just plain old X?
[08:08] <nolimitsoya> Marelo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <- select the right driver to begin with
[08:08] <Marelo> arrenlex: well, i think so. just kde
[08:09] <timo901> i know what the bit mean , the bus has been expanded
[08:09] <arrenlex> Marelo: And what's the output of: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep i810 | wc -l
[08:09] <Dunca1> cybrjoe: dont know of anything then (i'm here 'cos I can't get mp3tunes to work with ubuntu properly, despite having linux support...)
[08:09] <arrenlex> Marelo: Should be a number.
[08:09] <timo901> Be right back
[08:09] <cybrjoe> Dunca1, do you have your entire collection up there?
[08:09] <grndslm> could somebody explain why fullscreen videos over GooTube work on my friends computer, but not the other 3 computers running Edgy that I own??
[08:09] <l33t> HELP
[08:09] <jasin> you guys act like 64 bit microprocessors is something new, man, you really dont know much.
[08:09] <l33t> HELP
[08:10] <arrenlex> !ask | l33t
[08:10] <ubotu> l33t: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:10] <Dunca1> cybrjoe: yep
[08:10] <l33t> how do I set up Limewire on Ubuntu?
[08:10] <kitche> grndslm: maybe you don't have flash installed
[08:10] <arrenlex> !limewire
[08:10] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[08:10] <Core> !help | Kiongku
[08:10] <ubotu> Kiongku: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:10] <Marelo> arrenlex: the result is 1
[08:10] <Dunca1> l33t: frostwire
[08:10] <l33t> ?
[08:10] <arrenlex> Marelo: Okay. Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:10] <grndslm> kitche:  i wouldn't be able to see the videos period if it wasn't installed...it's just fullscreen that's the problem
[08:10] <l33t> ????
[08:10] <Dunca1> l33t: you don't want limewire. use frostwire instead (its the same as limewire pro)
[08:10] <Jordan_U> !froswire | l33t
[08:10] <HymnToLife> !frostwire
[08:10] <LinTux> My menus are scrolling slow. anybody got any ideas how I can solve this?
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about froswire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:10] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:11] <Jordan_U> !frostwire | l33t
[08:11] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, what are you confused on
[08:11] <ubotu> l33t: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:11] <NoPulp> frostwire !
[08:11] <l33t> ?
[08:11] <Dunca1> l33t: goto system | administration | synaptic, or Applications | Add / Remove Programs
[08:11] <Dunca1> you'll find it there (just search for it and install it)
[08:11] <grndslm> All 3 of my computers won't display YouTube & Google Videos in fullscreen mode, but when i upgraded my buddy's computer to Edgy, his fullscreen button works!!  What gives??
[08:11] <jasin> The transmetta TM8000 is 256bit
[08:11] <l33t> WTF
[08:11] <l33t> it aint in there
[08:12] <Moosebuntu> What is sh ?
[08:12] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, he means frostwire.
[08:12] <Jordan_U> grndslm: Was he using the backports repository by any chance?
[08:12] <k0> any good organizer apps out there?
[08:12] <BHSPitMonkey> Moosebuntu, it runs scripts
[08:12] <arrenlex> Moosebuntu: The shell.
[08:12] <kitche> Moosebuntu: a shell but ubuntu has sh has dash
[08:12] <linuxeatswindows> I installed frostwire with autamatix
[08:12] <grndslm> Jordan_U:  i'm pretty sure we both have the same sources.list, but not 100%
[08:12] <Moosebuntu> ah, thx
[08:12] <grndslm> Jordan_U:  and that means yes backports was uncommented
[08:13] <ubuntu> hi
[08:13] <l33t> help
[08:13] <Dunca1> hi ubuntu
[08:13] <k0> if u running xgl u will not be able to run frostwire unless u create another session
[08:13] <l33t> HELP
[08:13] <Moosebuntu> So, when I exec # sh /usr/local/games/quake3/linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run does this just execute the script in this package?
[08:13] <l33t> frostwire is not in Package Manager or add/remove
[08:13] <Moosebuntu> or is there something else in this file?
[08:13] <arrenlex> Marelo: Also, it would be nice if you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf just in case
[08:13] <Jordan_U> grndslm: Ok, that means that you should ( I believe ) both be using the flash 9 beta now.
[08:13] <k0> l33t:use automatrix
[08:13] <kitche> Moosebuntu: yes it will but you might get an error depending
[08:13] <l33t> ?
[08:13] <Jordan_U> !automatix
[08:13] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:14] <arrenlex> Moosebuntu: Most likely there is a script embedded in a binary blob.
[08:14] <l33t> can someone help?
[08:14] <hassan2a> no
[08:14] <linuxeatswindows> Moosebuntu you can turn off beryl then turn it back on and it works for me
[08:14] <Marelo> arrenlex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/136/
[08:14] <grndslm> Jordan_U:  yup, i definitely have the flash 9 beta...but fullscreen no worky for me
[08:14] <Moosebuntu> thanks!
[08:14] <arrenlex> grndslm: In firefox?
[08:14] <l33t> HELP
[08:14] <grndslm> yup
[08:14] <Moosebuntu> Linuxeatswindows> beryl?
[08:14] <Dunca1> l33t: use Automatix2 instead then, just a sec I'll get you howto install it
[08:14] <kingace> i did dpkg-reconfigure gdm but the only options were gdm and kdm, and when i selected gdm, it was xdm instead
[08:14] <jasin> I dont need no 64 bit overpriced bs, my celery 3 ghz runs beautifully with linux.
[08:14] <Jordan_U> grndslm: Does your friend?
[08:14] <kingace> so how do I uninstall xdm?
[08:14] <nolimitsoya> !automatix | Dunca1 l33t
[08:14] <ubotu> Dunca1 l33t: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:14] <grndslm> Jordan_U:  yup...there's no otherway fullscreen could work for him, right??
[08:14] <linuxeatswindows> Moosebuntu yea the xgl window manager
[08:14] <grndslm> arrenlex:  yes, in firefox
[08:14] <l33t> HELP
[08:15] <nolimitsoya> will you guys stop recommending automatix already? this has been discussed a million times >_<
[08:15] <grndslm> no kidding
[08:15] <NoPulp> l33t go here and install it http://www.getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation
[08:15] <jasin> you can uninstall xdm with the command sudo apt-get remove xdm
[08:15] <Jordan_U> grndslm: I don't know, I have never tried full screen before myself
[08:15] <Dunca1> l33t: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_Automatix2_on_Ubuntu.2C_Kubuntu.2C_and_Xubuntu
[08:15] <kitche> l33t: no one will help you if you just say HELP
[08:15] <mino789456> hi everyone, does anybody have a problem with radeon 9200 and fixed it?
[08:15] <l33t> automatix is not recommended
[08:15] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, calm the poo down
[08:15] <Marelo> arrenlex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/138/  <-- xorg.conf
[08:15] <nolimitsoya> l33t, not only is it not recommended, its discurraged
[08:15] <Marelo> arrenlex:  give some seconds, will restar irc
[08:15] <l33t> then what do I do?
[08:15] <tuxmaniac> Dunca1> !ubuntuguide
[08:16] <NoPulp> do it anyway
[08:16] <nolimitsoya> !easyubuntu | l33t
[08:16] <ubotu> l33t: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[08:16] <tuxmaniac> !ubuntuguide
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:16] <nolimitsoya> NoPulp, stop it, please. dont be daft
[08:16] <l33t> I already have EasyUbuntu
[08:16] <Dunca1> tuxmaniac: thanks!
[08:16] <l33t> it dont have nothing for p2p
[08:16] <linuxeatswindows> easy ubuntu isn't for edgy
[08:16] <tuxmaniac> !ubuntuguide.org
[08:16] <l33t> yeah
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide.org - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:16] <k0> l33t:http://download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/premiere/win/2.x/PremierePro2_0_Tryout.zip
[08:16] <grndslm> Jordan_U:  yea, it's just the strangest thing that it only works on his computer and i use the same sources.list file & same aptitude install <all packages here> for all my computers...but no fullscreen on my computers
[08:16] <l33t> the alpha build works on Edgy
[08:16] <l33t> it aint got nuttin for a p2p app on it
[08:16] <jasin> easyubuntu is good too, i use that in conjunction with automatix.
[08:16] <linuxeatswindows> oh didn't know that
[08:16] <nolimitsoya> l33t, enable universe, and apt-get frostwire
[08:16] <marelo> arrenlex: I'm back...
[08:16] <k0> oops
[08:16] <mino789456> hi everyone, does anybody have a problem with radeon 9200 and fixed it?
[08:16] <jasin> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html
[08:16] <BHSPitMonkey> k0, what are you doing
[08:16] <fizzzi> hello
[08:16] <k0> http://www.getautomatix.com/
[08:17] <jasin> !easyubuntu
[08:17] <k0> wrong link
[08:17] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[08:17] <l33t> ????????????????????????/
[08:17] <l33t> ????????????????????????????????????
[08:17] <BHSPitMonkey> STOP/
[08:17] <l33t> can someone help?
[08:17] <BHSPitMonkey> goodness
[08:17] <jasin> That bot is pretty handy
[08:17] <l33t> everyone is telling me something different
[08:17] <fizzzi> i have problem with my devices USB can i paste link to post with my problem ?
[08:17] <NoPulp> im daft ?  and the guy saying HELP isnt ?
[08:17] <acm> why would my edgy sources.list now point me to a 2.4 kernel?
[08:17] <nolimitsoya> l33t, it to, is not official or safe. you have been given instructions be myself already. follow them
[08:17] <Dunca1> l33t: stop spamming. ask your questions and then wait
[08:17] <marelo> arrenlex: I installed a DRI driver from freedesktop site, the last i915 one, but no success either
[08:17] <k0> check out there page,
[08:17] <l33t> everyone keeps telling me something different, lol
[08:17] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, all people have done for the past 5 minutes is address this for you, and all you've managed to do is "?" "HELP" "?????????????"
[08:18] <l33t> because everyone says something different
[08:18] <BHSPitMonkey> you're really starting to look like a troll
[08:18] <Dunca1> l33t: that's cos there's more than one way to do things
[08:18] <l33t> can you help me BHSP?
[08:18] <nolimitsoya> l33t, then listen and make you rmind up
[08:18] <fizzzi> ?
[08:18] <l33t> this room is too damn crowded
[08:18] <Jordan_U> l33t: What do you need help with specifically? listen to me and I will try to sift out the suggestions and give you one answer :)
[08:18] <ReleaseX> happy new year
[08:18] <linuxeatswindows> hi emo_
[08:18] <fizzzi> please help me
[08:18] <tuxmaniac> l33t> Its Ubuntu
[08:18] <l33t> lol
[08:18] <nolimitsoya> Jordan_U, ha wants to install frostwire.
[08:18] <nolimitsoya> *he
[08:18] <fizzzi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1940896#post1940896
[08:18] <jasin> Thats the beauty of linux, more then one way to do one thing.
[08:19] <fizzzi> i need help
[08:19] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, step 1, install java (it's called j2re in synaptic), step 2, pick limewire or frostwire (they're identical, frost is just open source, no ads or nags), step 3, depends on your choice.
[08:19] <MasterShrek> whats up fizzzi ?
[08:19] <Cyclonus> wasn't that sex?
[08:19] <tuxmaniac> fizzzi> Ask
[08:19] <linuxeatswindows> !question
[08:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:19] <l33t> I already got java
[08:19] <mino789456> hi everyone, I have a problem with Radeon9200, after update the acceleration dont work
[08:19] <l33t> I want frostwire
[08:19] <fizzzi> i write about my problem
[08:19] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, then get frostwire from apt-get or synaptic
[08:19] <BHSPitMonkey> or whatever
[08:19] <l33t> lol
[08:19] <fizzzi> in this places http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1940896#post1940896
[08:19] <MasterShrek> hmm, im not sure about that
[08:19] <l33t> it's not in the package manager
[08:19] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, have you enabled universe
[08:20] <l33t> it doesn't have an option to enable universe
[08:20] <Jordan_U> l33t: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire has full instructions
[08:20] <l33t> you have to enable all of them
[08:20] <ShiFTKey> hey can I get some help?
[08:20] <ShiFTKey> im having a problem with samba
[08:20] <linuxeatswindows> l33t type in terminal sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:20] <acm> where do you specify what version of ubuntu you're using?
[08:20] <boxninja_> Anyone here has to rebuild ALSA from source?
[08:20] <k0> l33t:u can get it here
[08:20] <k0> http://www.frostwire.com/
[08:20] <boxninja_> I'm having trouble geting alsa moduoles to load
[08:20] <l33t> opened
[08:20] <Alzi2> Hey. I have a Kubuntu Alternate Install CD here and i want to install Xubuntu with it.... how can I do that?
[08:21] <apokryphos> acm: do you mean specify or find out?
[08:21] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, open synaptic, go to Settings>Repositories, and then check all the boxes.
[08:21] <linuxeatswindows> l33t then uncomment universe
[08:21] <apokryphos> Alzi2: have you installed kubuntu?
[08:21] <acm> apokryphos: specify for aptitude, apt-get, etc.
[08:21] <HymnToLife> Alzi2, install your Kubuntu and then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:21] <Alzi2> 
[08:21] <fizzzi> please help me, i dont wont install MS Windows or sales my webcam
[08:21] <fizzzi> ...
[08:21] <rambo3> boxninja_ rebuild no, build from source probobly
[08:21] <Alzi2> apokryphos: Not yet
[08:21] <l33t> what?
[08:21] <Jordan_U> l33t: BHSPitMonkey's way is the easiest :)
[08:21] <l33t> chat moves so fast in this room I cant see what you said
[08:21] <Alzi2> apokryphos: I'm on a not-working Debian now
[08:21] <boxninja_> rambo3: I meant build, yes
[08:21] <linuxeatswindows> l33t delete the # infront of universe
[08:21] <apokryphos> acm: why would you need to? It knows which  version you've got from your sources.list
[08:21] <marelo> arrenlex: you didn't forget about me, did you? O:)
[08:22] <l33t> I cant read any directions
[08:22] <l33t> too much chat
[08:22] <rambo3> boxninja_ : apt-build alsa
[08:22] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, we've all been highlighting you, our instructions should be in red.
[08:22] <apokryphos> Alzi2: you can easily install xubuntu from the net once you have any *buntu up-and-running
[08:22] <l33t> so what do I do in Synaptic?
[08:22] <linuxeatswindows> l33t call the whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance
[08:22] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, open synaptic, go to Settings>Repositories, and then check all the boxes.
[08:22] <marelo> l33t: go MSN... :D LOL
[08:22] <boxninja_> rambo3 will that get me 1.0.14rc1 though?
[08:22] <linuxeatswindows> l33t scroll up man
[08:22] <Alzi2> apokryphos: But how to install only the base from the alternate install CD, so i can then install xubuntu-desktop?
[08:22] <HymnToLife> Alzi2, do a "server" install
[08:22] <Alzi2> alright
[08:22] <Alzi2> thanks
[08:22] <boxninja_> rambo3 the version I need to get this stupid m-audio card to work
[08:23] <l33t> done
[08:23] <l33t> I did that
[08:23] <mino789456> I have a problem with Radeon9200 after update, acceleration dont work, can anybody help me?
[08:23] <boxninja_> rambo3 stupid OSS commercial driver expired 12/31
[08:23] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, then close the settings window, click the Reload button, then look for frostwire
[08:23] <rambo3> boxninja_ there is alsa-oss package
[08:23] <apokryphos> Alzi2: there should be an option like that if you choose the expert install option
[08:23] <l33t> it aint there
[08:23] <arrenlex> marelo: I don't know; everything checks out. I think you should sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as someone has previously suggested and recreate your conf. Dunno if that will help, though. Sorry... good luck.
[08:23] <arrenlex> !who | l33t
[08:23] <Kiongku> Hi, can i know where i can read how to make my ubuntu station as a gateway to internet for a MS pc?
[08:23] <ubotu> l33t: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say, or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[08:24] <l33t> Frostwire is still not in there
[08:24] <linuxeatswindows> l33t use tab for autocomplete of the nick
[08:24] <BHSPitMonkey> I'm really not convinced, but that's fine.
[08:24] <rambo3> boxninja_ , and why would you need to build form source
[08:24] <linuxeatswindows> l33t update
[08:24] <marelo> arrenlex: see?!?! i told you!! grrrrrr
[08:24] <jasin> you can install java via apt-get, sudo apt-get install java-common
[08:24] <l33t> ?
[08:24] <linuxeatswindows> l33t then check for frostwire
[08:24] <l33t> update?
[08:24] <laforge> Is it OK to run FTP, web and IRC server on the same box or is that not advised?
[08:24] <Jordan_U> l33t: sudo apt-get update
[08:25] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, the RELOAD button at the top in synaptic
[08:25] <l33t> I already did that
[08:25] <l33t> it's not there
[08:25] <l33t> damn
[08:25] <l33t> why dont you believe me
[08:25] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, if you still can't find it, then go to frostwire.com and get it there.
[08:25] <jasin> use alsa not oss
[08:25] <ShiFTKey> does anyone here have any experience with samba?
[08:25] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, we don't believe you because we can all see it there.
[08:25] <l33t> IT AINT THERE
[08:25] <johns^> ShiFTKey: just ask your question
[08:25] <dimitri> how can i extract a tar.bz2 from the command line? thanks
[08:25] <boxninja_> rambo3 I need alsa 1.0.14rc1, which isn't even in the feisty repos yet
[08:25] <laforge> l33t, are you using the search feature right?
[08:25] <Jowi> laforge, no idea about irc server but FTP is not very secure. better use ssh instead.
[08:25] <jasin> you can install java via apt-get, the command is: sudo apt-get install java-common
[08:26] <Jordan_U> l33t: Did you do what BHSPitMonkey suggested and "open synaptic, go to Settings>Repositories, and then check all the boxes."
[08:26] <Jordan_U> ?
[08:26] <kitche> dimitri: tar -xvjf <>.tar.bz2 witht he new tar you don't need j or z
[08:26] <mino789456> I have a problem with Radeon9200 after update, acceleration dont work, on AMD platform
[08:26] <l33t> I did that
[08:26] <l33t> I checked all of them
[08:26] <jasin> You can get frostwire for ubuntu here: http://www.frostwire.com/download.php?file=http://fuse.frostwire.com/frostwire/4.13.1/frostwire-4.13.1.4.i586.deb
[08:26] <laforge> Jowi, what would be a good program to run a SSH server on?
[08:26] <Dunca1> fizzzi: http://mxhaard.free.fr/index.html might help - it supports the model no. ending with 23
[08:26] <ShiFTKey> i managed to get samba working, im able to connect using my other pc's, the problem is that when i leave it overnight, samba crashes and it wont let me restart the daemon
[08:26] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, see if they're still checked. Maybe you did something wrong and they didn't stick
[08:26] <Dunca1> fizzzi: (yours ends with 21)
[08:26] <jasin> download that to the desktop, then click on it
[08:26] <l33t> they are still checked
[08:27] <FrOstiE> hello
[08:27] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, just download it from frostwire.com
[08:27] <FrOstiE> can i ask a ?
[08:27] <fizzzi> i have model 21 ? or 23 ?
[08:27] <l33t> ok.
[08:27] <Jowi> laforge, it is called openssh-server
[08:27] <l33t> dling
[08:27] <jbroome> !ask | FrOstiE
[08:27] <ubotu> FrOstiE: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:27] <laforge> Jowi, ok thanks
[08:27] <jasin> l33t, download it from the link I gave you
[08:27] <FrOstiE> :D
[08:27] <jasin> You can get frostwire for ubuntu here: http://www.frostwire.com/download.php?file=http://fuse.frostwire.com/frostwire/4.13.1/frostwire-4.13.1.4.i586.deb
[08:27] <l33t> I am downloading it
[08:27] <FrOstiE> i got vlc on my kubuntu
[08:27] <Dunca1> fizzzi: according to your post your model number ends in 21. they tested the one ending in 23 and it worked. so yours might (they haven't been able to test it yet)
[08:28] <jasin> l3t, good
[08:28] <FrOstiE> but i can watch movie intro but when i click play movie it closes
[08:28] <FrOstiE> any ideas pls
[08:28] <fizzzi> 23 ?
[08:28] <BHSPitMonkey> FrOstiE, you need libdvdcss
[08:28] <l33t> done installing
[08:28] <l33t> wat now?
[08:28] <Jordan_U> l33t: once it is doubnloaded you just need to double click it and select "unstall package" in the window that pops up
[08:28] <mino789456> Im having problem with my Radeon9200, could anyone help me?
[08:29] <Dunca1> fizzzi: according to this, it will work: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=3506
[08:29] <BHSPitMonkey> FrOstiE, and to get that you'll need to add an unofficial repo
[08:29] <FrOstiE> BHSPitMonkey
[08:29] <Dunca1> fizzzi: (read the EDIT)
[08:29] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, uhh... run it and get pr0n?
[08:29] <l33t> sw33t
[08:29] <FrOstiE> ty so much ill give it a go
[08:29] <jasin> FrOstie, you can get libdvcss here: http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/
[08:29] <l33t> installing
[08:29] <k0> people anyone know of any good
[08:29] <BHSPitMonkey> FrOstiE, or that.
[08:29] <FrOstiE> can i get it with synaptic manager
[08:29] <BHSPitMonkey> FrOstiE, use the link jasin gave you.
[08:30] <FrOstiE> ok :D
[08:30] <l33t> done installing
[08:30] <Kiongku> Hi, can i know where i can read how to make my ubuntu station as a gateway to internet for a MS pc?
[08:30] <Lynoure> mino789456: I know almost nothing about the non-free driver, so if your matter is with that, perhaps someone else can, but we have one of those cards here and it should work reasonably well with the open source driver as well.
[08:30] <l33t> W00T
[08:30] <Dunca1> !ubuntuguide
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <johns^> Kiongku: iptables can do that for you
[08:30] <Dunca1> Kiongku: take a look at the www.ubuntuguide.org, i think that'd be on there
[08:31] <Kiongku> thx
[08:31] <l33t> it works
[08:31] <l33t> it doesn't require java?
[08:31] <nextreme> yo. How can I get write permission for a harddrive when I can't do it from teh gui?
[08:31] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, what?
[08:31] <l33t> Frostwire doesn't need java?
[08:31] <BHSPitMonkey> l33t, of course it does, it's written in java.
[08:31] <fab5freddy> how do you use the noapic to boot the kernel?
[08:31] <BHSPitMonkey> its executable is a jar file
[08:31] <kitche> l33t: it probably uses gcj
[08:32] <jasin> I really like linux :)
[08:32] <fizzzi> what i should do ?
[08:33] <jasin> nestreme chmod +r /dev/hda1
[08:33] <Jaggz-> gotta restart.. ttyl
[08:33] <jasin> nestreme, thats for the drive hda1, replace that with your drive, whatever it is
[08:33] <FrOstiE> hey soz to be a pain
[08:33] <Jaggz-> thanks hose
[08:34] <fab5freddy> can anybody shed some light into the noapic for booting
[08:34] <FrOstiE> but my synaptic says i got libdvdcss2 installed
[08:34] <fizzzi> i must waiting ?
[08:34] <jasin> libdvdcss2 is different
[08:35] <elyon> Anyone here know if Cedega is worth it?
[08:35] <chable> lol
[08:35] <mino789456> Lynoure: my problem is that it worked until update, non-free driver fglrx and I try 8.28.8driver from ATI website too, and of course I try open-source, but non of them worked with 3D acceleration :(
[08:35] <chable> my nickname was changed
[08:35] <chable> ok im back with a brandnew ubuntu
[08:35] <Jordan_U> elyon: I won't pay them on principle
[08:35] <chable> how do i install the nvidia official drivers
[08:35] <MasterShrek> chable download them from nvidia.com
[08:35] <FrOstiE> ok ty jasin
[08:36] <chable> i did
[08:36] <FrOstiE> :DD
[08:36] <leexgx> lhmm he gone
[08:36] <Jordan_U> chable: Define "official"
[08:36] <MasterShrek> then chmod a+x NVIDI...
[08:36] <elyon> Jordon - see, that's what I'm concerned with.  They stole so much from Wine and now charge for it?
[08:36] <MasterShrek> then ./NVIDIA...
[08:36] <fab5freddy> noapic, does it is done?
[08:36] <jasin> libdvdcss2 should work tho
[08:36] <Dunca1> chable: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[08:36] <amonbish> sup?
[08:36] <chable> Jordan_U,  not the one that apt-get provides
[08:36] <elyon> Jordon_U - I'd be willing to pay a bit if it worked perfectly, but that's what I'm trying to figure out.
[08:36] <chable> checkin Dunca1
[08:36] <chable> well
[08:36] <chable> i know this
[08:36] <chable> but i want to download the drivers from the nvidia website
[08:36] <chable> and install them
[08:37] <chable> it worked for ubuntu 6.10 server
[08:37] <chable> but on desktop , x crashed
[08:37] <chable> after i installed them , same way i did on the server version
[08:37] <Everflex> Ehhhh, when i try and post something in the pastebin, it sais this: 'Thou shalt not spam the pastebin!', what did i do wrong?!! i am only trying to paste an output from the console in context to a question i'm gonna ask here.
[08:37] <amonbish> I'll soon find out
[08:37] <jasin> libdvdcss2 with decrypt, where as libdvdcss will just playback .. if i'm not mistaken.
[08:38] <Lunch> everytime I go to Applications | Add/Remove it tells me my list is out of date and downloads files (even after an update). Does anyone know why my list appears to not get updated?
[08:38] <mino789456> Lynoure: my problem is that it worked until update, non-free driver fglrx and I try 8.28.8driver from ATI website too, and of course I try open-source, but non of them worked with 3D acceleration :(
[08:38] <jasin> chabe, what card?
[08:38] <elyon> Can anyone tell me if Cedega is worth the $5/mo for a gamer?
[08:39] <arrenlex> mino789456: With what card?
[08:39] <Jordan_U> mino789456: Edgy or dapper?
[08:39] <jasin> mino, ati is flaky in ubuntu
[08:39] <chable> Jordan_U, another thing , this way of installing nvidia , on ubuntuguide , change my kernel too
[08:39] <Dunca1> Anyone need a 4-way surge protector? 2.40!! http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/113253 (sorry bit off topic hehe)
[08:39] <jarrod10> s it advisable to use linux on a macbook?
[08:39] <Cyclonus> elyon -  WINE was BSD licensed when it was forked to create Cedega.
[08:39] <chable> i see 2 cpus on /proc/cpuinfo
[08:39] <mino789456> Radeon 9200 SE
[08:39] <chable> and after i install nvidia-kernel-common , i see only one
[08:39] <magic_ninja> !netconfig
[08:39] <sc4ttrbrain> after resizing partition ,i cant make it mounted,how to add it to /etc/fstab ?
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <arrenlex> mino789456: The FOSS "radeon" driver will give you accel on that.
[08:39] <Cyclonus> elyon - don't accuse anyone of stealing unless you can prove it
[08:40] <magic_ninja> anyone know a good webpage that tells you how to manually configure your inet connection
[08:40] <jasin> mino, I have that card in my other system.
[08:40] <elyon> Cyclonus - I was told by others that it was stolen.  Forgive me for trusting what I heard in here.
[08:40] <Jordan_U> Cyclonus: It is a known fact that Cedgiga stole from wine
[08:40] <mino789456> and I dont know what version of Ubuntu, but I installed Dapper, how could I know what version of Ubuntu I have?
[08:40] <sc4ttrbrain> after resizing partition ,i cant make it mounted,how to add it to /etc/fstab ?
[08:40] <elyon> ..and by stolen I simply meant used without giving credit.
[08:40] <Cyclonus> Jordan_U - provide some pointers
[08:40] <arrenlex> !version | mino789456
[08:40] <mwe> minerale: if you installed dapper you have 6.06
[08:40] <ubotu> mino789456: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[08:41] <Cyclonus> elyon - stealing is a juristic defined term
[08:41] <grndslm> can anybody else here with flash9beta installed get fullscreen videos with youtube??
[08:41] <mino789456> arrenlex: I never heard of that, FOSS, that another ati driver? could you give me a link?
[08:41] <Jowi> magic_ninja, how do you connect and what hardware do you have (router, modem etc)?
[08:41] <elyon> cyclonus - okay, fine.  Let's argue about symantics.. that's not what I came here for.
[08:41] <magic_ninja> Jowi: cable modem connection through usb port
[08:41] <chable> lol
[08:41] <mwe> mino789456: lsb_release -a
[08:41] <arrenlex> mino789456: You have it. It's part of xserver-xorg-video-ati
[08:41] <magic_ninja> Jowi: i just can't seemt o get it configured on my laptop, so ima need to know how to configure the stuff
[08:42] <arrenlex> mino789456: My own radeon card started getting 3D acceleration when I upgraded to edgy, but you have an older card.
[08:42] <Lynoure> mino789456: You updated to edgy? I had heard of that happening and did not do it (that being one of the reasons). Sorry, maybe someone else knows what to do
[08:42] <Jordan_U> Cyclonus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedega
[08:42] <soon> Hi folks - how do I make my wireless (ath0) start in mode 2 rather than 0 at boot time? (my wireless starts in mode 0 as standard - doesnt work until I issue: sudo iwpriv ath0 mode 2)
[08:42] <mino789456> mwe: OK, I got it, its dapper 6.06, the command version didnt work for me
[08:42] <sc4ttrbrain> after resizing partition ,i cant make it mounted,how to add it to /etc/fstab ?
[08:42] <jasin> The X.Org X server -- ATI display driver will do 3d on the radeon 9200, however, the fglrx driver provides better 3d support. You can get either one off of synaptics, just do a search for ati
[08:42] <chable> whats the difference between homonyms and polysemantics ?
[08:43] <jasin> The X.Org X server -- ATI display driver will do 3d on the radeon 9200, however, the fglrx driver provides better 3d support. You can get either one off of synaptics, just do a search for ati
[08:43] <Jowi> magic_ninja, does ubuntu detect it?
[08:43] <arrenlex> jasin: fglrx will not accelerate 9200.
[08:43] <arrenlex> jasin: Too old.
[08:43] <magic_ninja> Jowi: yea just fine, i was just curious on how to manually configure your internet connection
[08:43] <cybrjoe> Dunca1, check your pms
[08:43] <soon> pre-menstrual syndrome?
[08:43] <elyon> So... should I assume no one here uses Cedega? :)P
[08:43] <mwe> !info xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:43] <arrenlex> jasin: fglrx only goes to 9500 and higher
[08:43] <ubotu> xorg-driver-fglrx: Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 7.1.0-8.28.8+2.6.17.6-1 (edgy), package size 9181 kB, installed size 25892 kB
[08:43] <cybrjoe> nice soon
[08:43] <Cyclonus> Jordan_U - have you actually read and understood that article?
[08:44] <chable> very nice
[08:44] <grndslm> nobody here can see fullscreen youtube videos???
[08:44] <matsn> ati?
[08:44] <chable> i have 2 Broken pacakges
[08:44] <Jowi> magic_ninja, depends on the modem I would say. see if it is listed in "network-admin"
[08:44] <chable> packages even
[08:44] <chable> i think my speed brings me broken archives
[08:44] <mwe> chable: it shouldn't though
[08:44] <chable> is there a netlimiter for ubuntu
[08:44] <magic_ninja> have you guys heard anything about this open source version of windows that is in development
[08:44] <Jowi> magic_ninja, if it is, click on it and click on the "properties" button
[08:44] <chable> mwe, i got this error a lotta times
[08:44] <chable> with openoffice.org update
[08:45] <arrenlex> mino789456: You can try using the radeon driver to see if you get acceleration. Install xserver-xorg-video-ati if you don't already have it, and change your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use the "radeon" driver. If you haven't modified it, you can use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select radeon instead.
[08:45] <magic_ninja> its supposed to be an OS that is completely compatible with windows
[08:45] <mwe> chable: what error, sorry?
[08:45] <mino789456> Lynoure: no its Dapper, 6.06.1 LTS, so how can I install the FOSS driver, remove fglrx and install xserver-xorg-video-ati, as arrenlex advice me?
[08:45] <jasin> arrenlex, really? then why was I able to use it with my 9100 igp
[08:45] <chable> "you have 2 Broken files on your system"
[08:45] <chable> please use Broken filter to locate them
[08:45] <mwe> magic_ninja: no such working thing exists by now though
[08:45] <arrenlex> jasin: You get 3D acceleration with that card?
[08:45] <FrOstiE> jasin tht link u gave has libdvdcss2 on it 2
[08:45] <mwe> magic_ninja: supposed to maybe ...
[08:45] <magic_ninja> mwe: why do you say that?
[08:45] <Jowi> gotto test something. brb
[08:45] <jasin> arrenlex, yep
[08:45] <mino789456> arrenlex: I will try it, thanks, perhaps it will work
[08:45] <Lynoure> mino789456: arrenlex usually gives good advice, so go for it.
[08:45] <magic_ninja> mwe: i was reading it, they had it up and running a few basic apps on older hardware
[08:45] <jasin> frOstie, yes it does
[08:46] <magic_ninja> it was over a year ago though
[08:46] <Jordan_U> Cyclonus: I understand that it is not technically "stealing" because they are obeying the licesnce that wine was under, but it was still in my opinion wrong
[08:46] <emun> happy new year everybody, need some help, found an old lexmark z11 printer , and trying to install it, after no luck with two canon printers, I have downloaded the drivers : lz11-v2-1.2.tar.gz and it is on my desktop where do go from here , please i am a newbie, can somebody give me easy instructions
[08:46] <chable> it happens everytime i update the system after a fresh install
[08:46] <arrenlex> Wow. *is recommended* o_o
[08:46] <FrOstiE> and i got it installed
[08:46] <chable> and btw , dapper has a problem
[08:46] <FrOstiE> but still sme prob
[08:46] <chable> with the monitor
[08:46] <Cyclonus> Jordan_U - it is not stealing in *any* sense
[08:46] <chable> it wont resume after sleep
[08:46] <Jordan_U> Cyclonus: #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to discuss further though.
[08:46] <mwe> magic_ninja: yeah a few basic apps. I don't remember the name. it's been there for several years. still doesn't work with 99.9 of all programs
[08:47] <tehArtist> anyone here?
[08:47] <mwe> tehArtist: no
[08:47] <jannu1> any idea ill trying to get direct rendering working with my radeon 9500 pro, 2 dislpays and xinerama, when i replace driver ati -> fglrx i cant get even X
[08:47] <magic_ninja> mwe: http://www.reactos.org/en/screenshots.html
[08:47] <tehArtist> Having some Install problems with Ubuntu 6.10
[08:47] <magic_ninja> mwe: i might actually try it on my laptop to see how it goes
[08:47] <mwe> magic_ninja: yes that's it. reactos
[08:47] <jasin> 9500 and above, what a load of bs that is.
[08:47] <chable> brb restart
[08:47] <DarthNader> can anyone recommend a utility for increasing volume and normalizing a large batch of audio files?
[08:47] <mwe> magic_ninja: it's a good idea. but in 5 years or more most things still don't work
[08:48] <Cyclonus> Jordan_U - if developers are too lazy to read and understand the license they use, they shouldn't publish their stuff. as far as i can see wine does not complain. only GPL fanatics complain but it's not a GPL issue, it's not illegal and not immoral either. blame the wine developers, if you want to blame anyone
[08:48] <magic_ninja> mwe: give it time
[08:48] <emun> newbie needs help with lexmark printer ,please
[08:48] <pchilds> I just had a crazy experience. I was working on configuring samba server for my windows laptop to access files and all went well except for the write option. I ended up rebooting edgy eft and the boot failed. period. Blank screen of death. So I ended up using an alternate kernel that is supplied with ubuntu and all went well. I got booted up. I am still scratching my head as to what the problem was. Any suggestions?
[08:49] <mwe> magic_ninja: I will. gave it 5 years so far ;)
[08:49] <mino789456> arrenlex: hm, I tried to install package xserver-xorg-video-ati, but there isnt this package, I tried to search it via Firefox search engine for ubuntu packages with no luck too :(
[08:49] <elyon> Cyclonus - it is unethical.  They took all the Wine code, modified it slightly, and began selling it without contributing anything back to Wine itself.  There's a problem there.
[08:49] <arrenlex> !xserver-xorg-video-ati
[08:49] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-video-ati: X.Org X server -- ATI display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 1:6.6.2-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 327 kB, installed size 836 kB
[08:49] <Cyclonus> elyon - nonsense, that's exactly what the BSD license permits
[08:49] <arrenlex> ubotu says it exists.
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about says it exists. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <linuxeatswindows> !offtopic | elyon
[08:49] <ubotu> elyon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:49] <tehArtist> I'm atempting an install on a HP m7160n Media Center, The install starts going great, then it starts looking for disc drives. I then get 'No disk drive was detected. If you know the name of the driver needed by your disk drive, you can select it from the list' and it gives me a list, but I dont know which one to choose. The motherboard is a P5LP-LE made by ASUS. Any ideas?
[08:49] <arrenlex> mino789456: oh! You said you were running dapper. *headsmack*
[08:49] <Jordan_U> !offtopic Cyclonus me elyon
[08:49] <FrOstiE> ty jasin and
[08:49] <chable> ok
[08:49] <arrenlex> mino789456: You may already have it then. Give me a moment...
[08:49] <FrOstiE> ty again
[08:49] <FrOstiE> :D
[08:50] <deb_noob> !nvidia
[08:50] <Jordan_U> !offtopic | Cyclonus me elyon
[08:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:50] <chable> tehArtist, that may be a hardware malfunction
[08:50] <ubotu> Cyclonus me elyon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:50] <magic_ninja> mwe: looks to me another microsoft in fostering trying to leech off the public
[08:50] <chable> ubuntu works perfect
[08:50] <Correcamins> gg
[08:50] <magic_ninja> mwe: they used to say it was open source
[08:50] <tehArtist> malfunction?
[08:50] <tehArtist> hahahahaha
[08:50] <mino789456> arrenlex: yes, but I think there isnt this package, I search it with synaptic too
[08:50] <tehArtist> perfect my ass
[08:50] <chable> or else
[08:50] <mwe> magic_ninja: yeah
[08:50] <arrenlex> mino789456: Don't worry, it's because you're running dapper.
[08:50] <jasin> linux has been around since 1991, things should worked out by now.
[08:50] <arrenlex> mino789456: Does the file /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so exist on your system?
[08:50] <magic_ninja> mwe: well right now its still open source, but they are making a corperation out of it
[08:50] <Cyclonus> well guys then don't claim cedega is stealing in the first place, because that's off-topic too even if it was true
[08:51] <chable> tehArtist, your machine is L.A.M.E.
[08:51] <chable> na
[08:51] <magic_ninja> jasin: it wasn't actually until the last 2 years when linux really got user-friendly
[08:51] <flyinghippo> Hello.  I have just downloaded and installed the KDE-Core package.  How is is that I switch from GNOME to KDE?
[08:51] <chable> uninstall gnome
[08:51] <mwe> magic_ninja: that's often how things turn out. sadly
[08:51] <arrenlex> flyinghippo: Log out of your session. In GDM, choose a KDE session when you log in.
[08:51] <arrenlex> chable: Please don't give advice like that.
[08:51] <s34n> the  6.10 installer ran in high-res, but after installing, ubunto runs in 640x480 with no other options
[08:51] <pchilds> Is there a way to get tomboy to automatically load with ubuntu?  Just curious. Am getting tired of starting it with terminal first.
[08:51] <Cyclonus> in fact it's quite unethical to spread such rumours
[08:51] <Z_God> I've got a problem with firefox in dapper, the pasting of websites seems to be broken, is this a known problem?
[08:51] <chable> uhm
[08:51] <chable> sorry
[08:51] <tehArtist> Wow, everyone brags about the Ubuntu community being so great...so far, the Ubuntu community has been nothing but a bunch of leetist morons, thanks fr feeding my opinion chable...
[08:52] <chable> tehArtist,
[08:52] <mino789456> arrenlex: NO
[08:52] <arrenlex> tehArtist: You've never been to #debian. :)
[08:52] <chable> if ill want any sh*t from u , ill squeeze your "brain"
[08:52] <jasin> magic, mandrake was somewaht friendly, fedora has been friendly for years.
[08:52] <chable> now buzz off
[08:52] <jatt> uh?
[08:52] <Jowi> ubotu, tell s34n about resolution
[08:52] <tehArtist> lol
[08:52] <Jordan_U> Cyclonus: Please, join #ubuntu-offtopic, this is a support channel, I am sorry for starting this here
[08:52] <chable> arrenlex, ive been there :)
[08:52] <mfb__> !coc | chable
[08:52] <ubotu> chable: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[08:52] <emun> can a newbie get some help here or not?
[08:52] <arrenlex> mino789456: Ah. In dapper, it's called xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[08:52] <arrenlex> mino789456: Insatll that.
[08:53] <jatt> !ask
[08:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:53] <chable> mfb__, he was being rude on above
[08:53] <Dunca1> !coc | Everyone
[08:53] <ubotu> Everyone: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[08:53] <Dunca1> oo
[08:53] <Dunca1> hehe
[08:53] <arrenlex> It's so amusing that the acronym is "coc".
[08:53] <linux_user400354> i don't have a router. i have two nics on my desktop. how can i share the internet to the laptop with the second nic?
[08:53] <chable> haha
[08:53] <chable> yeah
[08:53] <meleeglow> newb ahas a question
[08:54] <chable> arrenlex, ive been to debian , and i got them angry
[08:54] <apokryphos> !question
[08:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:54] <mino789456> arrenlex: ok, I find it with synaptic, I ll be back in a moment :)
[08:54] <chable> coz i told blondie is fat
[08:54] <chable> she is 80
[08:54] <chable> :))
[08:54] <Jowi> linux_user400354, there's a firewall that is called "firestarter" that make the setup for shared connection rather easy.
[08:54] <Jowi> !firestarter
[08:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:54] <apokryphos> !offtopic | chable
[08:54] <ubotu> chable: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:54] <emun> need some help on how to install a ,,,tar.gz driver for lexmark z11
[08:54] <chable> i feel like at church
[08:54] <mino789456> arrenlex: just a small question: Isnt it bad that I havent this file you wrote?
[08:55] <arrenlex> mino789456: No. That package will install it.
[08:55] <curs0r> anyone know where to get wine help?
[08:55] <dimitri> how can i mount a new partition from boot up? it is on /dev/sda6 & the type is ext3. thanks
[08:55] <arrenlex> curs0r: #winehq
[08:55] <chable> lol
[08:55] <curs0r> arrenlex, tx
[08:55] <chable> "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device"
[08:55] <magic_ninja> mwe: however i do predict that that company will have some legal battles with microsoft, it'll be sco all over again
[08:55] <chable> so i dont have a spundcard
[08:55] <meleeglow> I am working on a new system and I want to put ubuntu and xp64 on two different drives (mainly for visual affect of HDD window)
[08:55] <chable> soundcard* even
[08:56] <meleeglow> is it possible
[08:56] <chable> meleeglow, yes
[08:56] <chable> i have 3 drives
[08:56] <Jowi> meleeglow, yes
[08:56] <chable> they are SATA ?
[08:56] <meleeglow> how do I set two masters
[08:56] <emun> i think i need to get out of here and go to suse or something , can not get any help
[08:57] <meleeglow> or how would it work
[08:57] <Dunca1> emun: goto the forums
[08:57] <chable> meleeglow, im choose which HDD to be the first , from BIOS
[08:57] <Marelo> arrenlex: are you there?
[08:57] <arrenlex> Marelo: Yessir. But I told you, I'm out of ideas for you. = /
[08:57] <emun> where is the forums
[08:57] <Dunca1> (no-one gets help with particularly detailed problems here - the forums too busy)
[08:57] <ChesMan> Can someone help me get Kiba-Dock setup properly? i kep getting it as a black dock, and all the icons have black over it
[08:57] <Jowi> meleeglow, put xp on first master hdd, ubuntu on the second. use a bootmanager such as grub to chose which one to boot
[08:58] <jasin> linux_user, wirelessly? you will need to run the second nic to a switch and then connect an access point to that switch.
[08:58] <Jowi> ChesMan, if you install it from a .deb try a different one. not all of them work for me either.
[08:58] <Marelo> arrenlex: I know, i know, i kinda solved the problem. hehehe let me explain: i think the problem was in the MESA package installed in my kubuntu, it was the swraster (software rendering) that's why the game was too slow
[08:59] <arrenlex> Marelo: Yes, I told you, you didn't have 3D acceleration. I was confused as to why.
[08:59] <Marelo> arrenlex: so i uninstalled it and installed the mesa direct rendering, or something like that
[08:59] <Jowi> ChesMan, kiba-dock_0.1cvs20061018-1_i386.deb is the only one that I have been able to get working in Dapper (never tried edgy)
[08:59] <weaselst> !ftp
[08:59] <ChesMan> Jowi: i tried Pricechilds that he has listed on the forums, everyon in the thread seems to be getting it to work, even after a reinstall it doesnt work .. :( lol
[08:59] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[08:59] <ChesMan> im in Edgy
[08:59] <emun> duncal, where is the forums, actually my basic question is how to work with tar.gz package
[08:59] <arrenlex> Marelo: That has to be the vaguest description ever, but I'm glad you fixed it. xD
[09:00] <Marelo> arrenlex: but now the game is ULTRA FAST, "unplayable", even the game clock is fast
[09:00] <arrenlex> Marelo: LOL XD
[09:00] <arrenlex> Marelo: Is this a game you're running with wine?
[09:00] <Marelo> arrenlex: it's really really fast, like fast fowarding a tape hehehe
[09:00] <Marelo> arrenlex: no! the game is native
[09:00] <jasin> linux_user, it would be cheaper just to scrap the second nic and use a router with wifi built in.
[09:00] <arrenlex> emun: .tar.gz is an archive. Like .zip. You extract it.
[09:01] <Jowi> ChesMan, you need composite turned on. check if /etc/X11/xorg.conf contain a "Section "Extensions"" with Composite Enabled in it.
[09:01] <arrenlex> Marelo: What game is this?
[09:01] <Marelo> arrenlex: unreal tournament
[09:01] <jasin> linux_user, if you insit on ussing two nics you can do it the way I originally suggested, get a switch and an access point.
[09:02] <thugren> Hello, So how do I enable the root user in ubuntu?
[09:02] <arrenlex> Marelo: A quick google search found a thread on the ubuntu forums where this problem was discussed http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214088&page=1
[09:02] <arrenlex> Marelo: Maybe that'll help... good luck!
[09:02] <arrenlex> !root | thugren
[09:02] <ubotu> thugren: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:02] <LoneVVolf> Hey all...can someone help me with graphics drivers?
[09:02] <arrenlex> !ask | LoneVVolf
[09:02] <ubotu> LoneVVolf: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:03] <jasin> linux_user,  if you look around you might be able to find an ethernet 10/100 wired switch with wifi built in, I dont know of any that exists though.
[09:03] <LoneVVolf> I have an old PC with Intel 815, and the default installation doesn't really seem to be speedy on updating.  Is there any way to get accelerated drivers?
[09:03] <jasin> linux_user, get an active powered switch if you do get one.
[09:03] <arrenlex> LoneVVolf: The xserver-xorg-video-i810 package should give you drivers.
[09:03] <tabman> I have a p2 350 mhz, around 100 mb ram laptop.......which ubuntu would work on it ?
[09:04] <arrenlex> tabman: xubuntu
[09:04] <arrenlex> !xubuntu | tabman
[09:04] <ubotu> tabman: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[09:04] <jasin> tab,am, on that system i'd use xubuntu
[09:04] <tabman> the latest version of xubuntu
[09:04] <LoneVVolf> yeah, I have that installed...doesn't seem to be very fast, though
[09:04] <emun> when you extract the printer driver tar.gz onto the desktop is that all , can you use the drivers , you have to do something else
[09:04] <jasin> tabm, on that system i'd use xubuntu
[09:04] <LoneVVolf> but I guess if that's the best there is...
[09:05] <LoneVVolf> In fact, it's really slow
[09:06] <LoneVVolf> tx anyway  :)
[09:06] <andreas_1> I've just installed ubuntu 5 on an acer 1640 but the X11 server just turns out black
[09:06] <jasin> tabm, on and dont install a bunch of libs, daemons, services,etc.. and make sure you setup a swap partition.
[09:06] <andreas_1> it seems to start but just black
[09:06] <andreas_1> what can I do ?
[09:06] <gan|y|med> hi
[09:06] <gan|y|med> i cannot access google at the moment so can anybody please tell me how to enable symbolic links in apache2 (kubuntu edgy)?
[09:07] <elyon> Okay... controversial question:  is it possible to download and install Internet Explorer with Wine?
[09:07] <andreas_1> elyon: short answer yes long answer search google
[09:07] <arrenlex> elyon: Not directly. Use the ies4linux script.
[09:07] <andreas_1> elyon: not sure about version 7
[09:07] <arrenlex> elyon: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[09:08] <elyon> arrenlex, thanks.
[09:08] <arrenlex> elyon: It's super easy.
[09:08] <arrenlex> elyon: Not 7, though. 5, 5.5, and 6.
[09:08] <kandinski> so, is it a safe day for upgrading Etch?
[09:09] <jasin> Is there anything better then this xchat ?
[09:09] <kandinski> I am still used to treating Ubuntu like I were running Sid, I know
[09:09] <kandinski> jasin: try screen on a server plus irssi, and you will never go back. Command-line only, natch.
[09:09] <pequatre> hi. is anyone here using the "electricsheep" screensaver ? i've heard of a hack of xscreensaver which would allow one to vote for the sheeps ? anyone knows about that ?
[09:11] <kestaz> how can i install anjuta 1.2.4 not 2 version with apt-get ?
[09:11] <kestaz> ;)
[09:11] <jasin> kandin, ever tried b*tch x ?
[09:12] <andgiaim> ciao
[09:12] <VerdRousseau> On my newly installed ubuntus what kind of security should I install.
[09:12] <floppyears> hi I need to get a gigabit nic, which one is the best supported by ubuntu ?
[09:13] <tyme-> whatevers best supported by the kernel?
[09:13] <jasin> Verd, virus scanner, parental controls .. if you have children, intrusion detection, encryption, firewall
[09:13] <floppyears> tyme-: yeah, at the end is the kernel
[09:14] <jasin> Verd, clam TK is a good virus scanner
[09:14] <jasin> Verd, http://clamtk.sourceforge.net/
[09:14] <VerdRousseau> so with the firewall, just pick one out of synaptics that looks good (I have heard of people making their own with configurations but that is way beyond me)
[09:15] <jasin> Verd, firestarter is a good firewall, http://www.fs-security.com/download.php
[09:15] <jasin> Verd, firestarter is very easy to use and setup
[09:15] <VerdRousseau> Alright thanks guys
[09:17] <elyon> ooh, scary!  ActiveX in Linux!?!
[09:17] <jasin> Verd, make sur eyou setup some really godo root passwords and do not enable root acess for logon.
[09:17] <elyon> muahaha
[09:17] <mike-e> hey do you need to install anything to read a ntfs drive?
[09:17] <NegativeSpace> Hi, can one make ISOs with the Archive Manager utility? If so, how?
[09:17] <tyme-> Anyone have a suggestion for Upnp app to stream my music/videos to my xbox360/media player?
[09:18] <jasin> Verd, good passwords are looooooong and use lots of numbers and letters mixed up randomly.
[09:18] <mike-e> tyme- : mpd with icecast
[09:19] <elyon> Ahhh!!!!! Popups all over the place!  Curse those IE-only websites!!!
[09:19] <jasin> How to Create an ISO File in Linux: http://www.wikihow.com/Create-an-ISO-File-in-Linux
[09:19] <seamus_ie> will the normal ubuntu apper live cd install correctly on a dual core system?
[09:19] <NegativeSpace> jasin: Thanks.
[09:20] <bryanh> Why cam I print a test page to my printer, but when I print a document, the printer Properties shows 'job-stopped'?
[09:21] <kane77> you know what'd be great? some portable version of ubuntu... for usb disk or iPods..
[09:21] <kane77> isn't there something like that already?
[09:21] <jasin> welcome
[09:21] <DarthLappy> kane77: There's an iPodLinux, but it's no Ubuntu.
[09:22] <arrenlex> elyon: Why are you using IE? xD
[09:22] <Login7> hi, can I use bluetooth dongle with Xubuntu
[09:22] <Login7> ?
[09:22] <arrenlex> !bluetooth | Login7
[09:22] <ubotu> Login7: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[09:22] <kane77> DarthLappy, I know... I was not thinking about linux for I pod... but more of a portable version...
[09:23] <jannu1> any idea ill trying to get direct rendering working with my radeon 9500 pro, 2 dislpays and xinerama, when i replace driver ati -> fglrx i cant get even X ?
[09:23] <DarthLappy> kane77: Oh, I know what you mean now :) I just woke up, so excuse that.
[09:23] <kane77> DarthLappy, np :D
[09:23] <arrenlex> jannu1: Can you be more specific than "can't even get X"?
[09:23] <kane77> DarthLappy, good morning then...
[09:23] <timo901> back :)
[09:24] <DarthLappy> kane77: It might be a bit slow to try and run something Ubuntu-sized...  There's always DSL for small Linux fun :D
[09:24] <arrenlex> jannu1: Please include an error message.
[09:24] <arrenlex> jannu1: You could also try free drivers, if you want, but the acceleration would be slower.
[09:24] <Zoffix> How can I record my desktop video? (like a screenshot but video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=JjII1Ld47zc ) I think I can vnc to my box but how can I save it as some file?
[09:24] <Jostein> private
[09:24] <jasin> xubuntu runs fine on older systems
[09:25] <Login7> openoffice can work in xubuntu?
[09:25] <niko_m> i'm downloading the christian distribution of xubuntu now
[09:25] <niko_m> the edgy release
[09:25] <arrenlex> Login7: Of course. Xubuntu is ubuntu with different packages installed by default.
[09:25] <Gumby> Zoffix: I think there is a program called vnc2swf
[09:25] <arrenlex> niko_m: ...why?
[09:25] <siv0x> Could anyone help me get ALSAs OSS e
[09:25] <niko_m> if i like the live cd i'm going to install it on my hard drive but not the whole thing i'm running win xp  pro
[09:25] <Zoffix> Gumby: thanks, I'll look into that.
[09:25] <siv0x> Emulator setup*
[09:25] <niko_m> how much space should i leave for xubuntu?
[09:25] <rpereira> Zoffix and Gumby: that's it!
[09:26] <niko_m> will 10 gigs do?
[09:26] <Login7> arrenlex: so xubuntu can install all programs that ubuntu can install too?
[09:26] <arrenlex> Login7: Of course.
[09:26] <niko_m> i have a 320 external hard drive also that is fat 32
[09:26] <DarthLappy> Login7: Think of Xubuntu *as* Ubuntu.
[09:26] <arrenlex> Login7: If you start with ubuntu, then remove ubuntu-desktop, then install xubuntu-desktop, you get exactly the same result as if you'd installed xubuntu.
[09:26] <mhiku>  umm out of topic but which is the best cms to choose from?
[09:26] <gnomefreak> niko_m: personally i would use 10gigs at the least
[09:27] <Login7> arrenlex: Thanks.
[09:27] <jannu1> arrenlex ill get some blue error screen, or only black screens
[09:27] <x-ip> hi, where can i change the bootsplash ?
[09:27] <MooUK> Right... I was following the desktop guide to get my nvidia graphics card working properly. (https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/graphics-cards.html). I was having problems, so I searched the wiki. A page there (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia) gave more detailed instructions, including one that for Edgy gave a different instruction to get the driver working than the desktop guide does. In other
[09:27] <MooUK> words, the desktop guide has a mistake in...
[09:27] <x-ip> i dont have splashy in the repositorys
[09:27] <jannu1> i think driver cant find my dislpays
[09:27] <gnomefreak> !usplash | x-ip
[09:27] <ubotu> x-ip: usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[09:28] <daishadar> can anyone recommend for me whether i should run vino or tightvnc for a vnc server?
[09:28] <x-ip> gnomefreak, thanks so much!
[09:28] <gnomefreak> yw
[09:28] <jasin> xubuntu, dsl, slax, puppy linux, and Feather Linux  are all for older systems
[09:28] <niko_m> so is 10 gigs enough for a basic install of xubutnu edgy?
[09:28] <gnomefreak> niko_m: yes xubuntu is about 2-3gig
[09:28] <niko_m> ok cool
[09:28] <DarthLappy> jasin: I find Xubuntu very nice on my newer system :D
[09:28] <jeff__> I'm trying to determin which kernel image to use for my AMD Dual core cpu, would it be an SMP type?
[09:29] <gnomefreak> niko_m: that leaves around 7ish gigs for other apps music whatever you want
[09:29] <jeff__> its a laptop, Acer 5101
[09:29] <hepme> if i have a computer that has no harddrives installed, and just run ubuntu off  liveCD, is that considered a 'diskless workstation'?
[09:29] <niko_m> so i just have to use partition commander to resize my windows partition to make space for xubuntu and then when i install linux it will make set xubuntu in the unused space right?
[09:29] <jasin> darthlappy lol
[09:29] <arrenlex> jeff__: Edgy or dapper?
[09:29] <jeff__> edgy
[09:29] <arrenlex> jeff__: -generic.
[09:29] <arrenlex> !generic | jeff__
[09:29] <ubotu> jeff__: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[09:29] <lufis> How do I mount a drive in the ubuntu livecd?
[09:29] <gnomefreak> niko_m: you can use the xubuntu installer to do that
[09:30] <arrenlex> jeff__: apt-get install linux-kernel-generic
[09:30] <leexgx> jeff__:  start system monitor and see if the kernel has seen the 2 cpus
[09:30] <niko_m> as long as i don't tell it to use the whole hard drive
[09:30] <Login7> ubuntu is updated automatically?
[09:30] <J-_> Is there a way to get 2 DE's running at the same time on the same computer so I can switch over to one whilst learning how to use the other?
[09:30] <niko_m> i rather not use linux to mess with ntfs paritions
[09:30] <VerdRousseau> with the firestarter firewall will that slow up my comp
[09:30] <niko_m> i prefer to use partition commander
[09:30] <jasin> I dont like that little box, I need toolbars, menubars, a desktop,etc.. :p
[09:30] <gnomefreak> niko_m: right there is a part wher eyou can choose how much space to use
[09:30] <lufis> VerdRousseau: It shouldn't
[09:30] <x-r00t-x> hello can anyone tell me where do i get alarm clock for ubuntu
[09:30] <niko_m> then just run the xubuntu install and tell it to used the unused space and make whaterver paritions it wants for linux
[09:30] <jasin> verd, no
[09:30] <fit4lfe_> how do I set up my screen for hdtv
[09:31] <gnomefreak> niko_m: thats fine
[09:31] <lufis> VerdRousseau: The Linux firewall runs without firestarter -- firestarter AFAIK is just a front-end for editing it
[09:31] <niko_m> will xubuntu install grub?
[09:31] <VerdRousseau> and also when for the roots sign in how do I get it so they cant sign in
[09:31] <gnomefreak> niko_m: yes
[09:31] <niko_m> ok
[09:31] <jeff__> leexgx, I guess the default AMD 64 bit has both CPu running
[09:31] <niko_m> has anyone ever use system commander before?
[09:31] <VerdRousseau> lufis- so ubuntu comes with a firewall preinstalled?
[09:31] <jasin> !xubuntu
[09:31] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[09:31] <lufis> VerdRousseau: Yep
[09:31] <niko_m> i'm wondering if its any good
[09:31] <umgan> I am recieving this error from wine. "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"  Could someone show me how to completely remove and reinstall it?
[09:31] <VerdRousseau> back to about the rootsw
[09:31] <VerdRousseau> how do I set it so they cant sign in
[09:32] <lufis> VerdRousseau: It's in the kernel, if you want to get technical, so all recent distros have one running
[09:32] <jasin> iptables is not a firewall
[09:32] <J-_> Is there a way to get 2 DE's running at the same time on the same computer so I can switch over to one whilst learning how to use the other?
[09:32] <MooUK> niko_m: if you're using an older machine, it's great. It is slightly harder in some cases to find appropriate software, however.
[09:32] <jasin> saying linux comes with a firewall preinstalled is subjective
[09:32] <lufis> jasin: Oh. I guess not then
[09:32] <VerdRousseau> so firestarter is my best bet
[09:33] <lufis> I'm running the Dapper livecd right now and I want to access some files on a local HD. The partitions on the hd show up in Nautilus but trying to open them doesn't work. I tried umount'ing them and that doesn't work either. Any ideas?
[09:34] <sladen> lufis: what does 'mount' show
[09:34] <jeff__> next question, wireless with  WPA-Pre Shared Key, TPIK wireless dont seem to be able to connect? any tips?
[09:34] <lufis> sladen: Mount doesn't show that they're mounted at all, which is strange
[09:34] <sladen> lufis: if you unmonunted them, did you re-mount them
[09:34] <lufis> sladen: Umount won't work
[09:34] <sladen> lufis: what message does it give, what command did you type
[09:35] <sladen> lufis: umount means 'unmount' which means they are no longer accessible
[09:35] <lufis> sladen: Trying to open them in nautilus gives "error: device /dev/hda1 is not removable, error: could not execute pmount"
[09:35] <lufis> sladen: Right. I was going to unmount them and mount them manually to see if that would work
[09:35] <tyme-> jeff__:  get a better network manager app
[09:35] <leexgx> jeff__:  if you installed from an 6.06 or 6.10 disk the generic kernel will of been used that is SMP enabled (if you Upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10 you need to get the new one as it seems to install i386 not generic one)
[09:35] <sladen> lufis: sudo mount ... then
[09:36] <lufis> sladen: Running mount gives: mount: /dev/hda already mounted or /home/ubuntu/Desktop/HD busy
[09:36] <Twinxor> any recommendation for a program to burn a .BIN and .CUE to CD?
[09:36] <sladen> lufis: mount | grep hda ?
[09:36] <VerdRousseau> im lookin at synaptic and they offer all this firewall stuff like fwbuilder are these not necessary for the basic user like me?
[09:36] <gnomefreak> leexgx: 6.06 still uses the 686 kernel
[09:36] <lufis> sladen: Comes back with no text
[09:36] <sladen> Twinxor: right-click the .bin and click 'burn'.
[09:36] <timo901> sudo nautilus  /home/ubuntu/Desktop/HD busy
[09:36] <lufis> VerdRousseau: Firestarter is good, i've had no problems with it
[09:36] <sladen> timo901: nooooooooo.
[09:37] <sladen> timo901: don't run programs as root!
[09:37] <timo901> ohhh ok ok keep ypu skirt on
[09:37] <mike-e> anyone know why i can't view an ntfs drive i just mounted?
[09:37] <sladen> mike-e: have a look in  /media
[09:37] <jeff__> leexgx, the stock kernel for 6.1 has dula cpu running
[09:37] <nick_p> Has anyone been able to install Ubuntu on a USB drive and boot off it? The installer freaks out on me when installing LILO... any way to get that to work? This is 6.06 server CD, maybe i should try something else?
[09:37] <mike-e> sladen : i mounted them to a directory in the /home/accoutn
[09:37] <leexgx> mine did
[09:37] <jasin> !wpa
[09:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:37] <jeff__> tyme-, network mapper, any names you could drop?
[09:37] <VerdRousseau> nmap
[09:38] <timo901> sladen:it was only to view files nothing more !
[09:38] <leexgx> jeff__:  you running ubuntu now
[09:38] <VerdRousseau> ?
[09:38] <jeff__> yes
[09:38] <sladen> mike-e: then look in /home/accountn!  :)
[09:38] <neuratix_> i have got problems with gnome taking forever to log in when my wireless usb networkthing (netgear wg111v2)  is connected during login, and when i finaly see my desktop i get a message about not being able to connect to the gconf database or something. also the device for my wirelessusbthing is kinda gone when its connected during bootup. any ideas?
[09:38] <mike-e> sladen it wont let me get into it
[09:38] <jasin> wpa howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[09:38] <jeff__> leexgx, just finished installing 6.1
[09:38] <tyme-> jeff__:  i've just used ifup to handle it for me, but some people like Network Manager
[09:38] <timo901> it usauly /media/windows
[09:38] <mike-e> bash: cd: store1: Permission denied
[09:38] <leexgx> jeff__:  click System ? amin > system o#monitor
[09:38] <leexgx> jeff__:  click System > admin > system monitor
[09:38] <x-ip> its a hard job to change the boot splash
[09:38] <x-ip> :,(
[09:39] <leexgx> ffs
[09:39] <jasin> wpa howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[09:39] <leexgx> :)
[09:39] <sladen> mike-e: for security, normal users won't be able to see disk-partitions after they are mounted.  use    umask=0      or some such to allow everyone to view the partition when moujnted
[09:39] <tyme-> !TPIK
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about TPIK - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <mike-e> sladen what would the syntax be?
[09:39] <tyme-> !wpa
[09:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:39] <jasin> wpa howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[09:39] <Yodude> hey does anybody know why evrytime i try to use GAIM for MSN chatting it closes automatically?
[09:40] <jasin> Yodude, thats a bug
[09:40] <VerdRousseau> Does linux not get the common spyware and adware viruses that windows generally accumulates on the web?
[09:40] <arrenlex> !virus | VerdRousseau
[09:40] <jbroome> VerdRousseau: nope
[09:40] <Yodude> lol i
[09:40] <ubotu> VerdRousseau: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[09:40] <Yodude> im using liveCD
[09:40] <lufis> sladen: Ahhh, it works now. I had to select a partition ;)
[09:40] <Yodude> here goes MSN on linux
[09:41] <jasin> you can try amsn
[09:41] <shanepardue> Why does Partimage tell me I have no large file support after it checks my disk. I'm running an ext3 filesystem.
[09:42] <jasin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/gaim/+bugs
[09:42] <Yodude> lol i can't install software in ubuntu it'll be useless
[09:42] <Yodude> i'm on LiveCD
[09:42] <jasin> gaim bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/gaim/+bugs
[09:42] <Yodude> no software will stay
[09:42] <leexgx> Yodude:  live CD is Live DC
[09:42] <leexgx> CD
[09:43] <Yodude> lol
[09:43] <Yodude> k i gtg anyway
[09:43] <leexgx> you need to install the OS onto an hdd to make sorfware stay
[09:43] <Yodude> note: i liked linux 100x more than windows keep up the good work
[09:43] <shanepardue> Why does Partimage tell me I have no large file support after it checks my disk. I'm running an ext3 filesystem.
[09:44] <leexgx> to bad there still is not more GUI config frount end yet
[09:44] <jasin> linux is cool, you can do all kinds of stuff in linux you never will be able to in windows.
[09:44] <rverrips> Hi all - Happy NewYear ... Need some help with a Rescue system - I can't seem to select md0 (a linux software RAID-1) as the root - The rescue mode only shows me the various devices, i.e. /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb1 ...
[09:45] <jasin> if i wasn't a multimedia freak I wouldn't even boot to a desktop :p
[09:45] <xtian> ls
[09:45] <leexgx> i guess hes gone
[09:45] <xtian> hey guys, are oreilly books free to read online?
[09:45] <jasin> xtian, not that I know of
[09:45] <jasin> !books
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about books - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <daishadar> xtian: nope
[09:46] <luisDetroit> No, you can buy online acesss
[09:46] <jasin> !book
[09:46] <xtian> arent there like open source books on linux and things like thaT
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about book - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <VerdRousseau> Is there a better wifi manager(that will show available APs) ,kinda like KDE's kwifimanager, for gnome
[09:46] <shanepardue> Why does Partimage tell me I have no large file support after it checks my disk? I'm running an ext3 filesystem.
[09:46] <kitche>    shanepardue because ext3 doesn't support large files really
[09:46] <daishadar> if you want docs on linux goto www.tldp.org
[09:47] <saxin> VerdRousseau: network-manager
[09:47] <jasin> how about gtkwifi?
[09:47] <jasin> gtkwifi.sourceforge.ne
[09:47] <shanepardue> oh really? do you happen to know a command that would show me any files larger than 4gb (i'm guessing that's the limit on no large file support)
[09:47] <tyme-> will icecast stream to xbox360/other media players?
[09:47] <jasin> gtkwifi.sourceforge.net
[09:47] <tyme-> !icecast
[09:47] <jasin> !gtkwifi
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icecast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtkwifi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <gan|y|med> how is the username and password for phpmyadmin???
[09:48] <VerdRousseau> saxin- thats from terminal isnt it
[09:48] <jasin> gtkwifi is similar to kwifi
[09:48] <VerdRousseau> oo
[09:48] <jasin> btw, you can run kwifi in gnome :p
[09:49] <saxin> VerdRousseau: no
[09:49] <xtian> daishadar, thanks, ill try that
[09:49] <hendrickvp> I need to update my php5 install, so that includes GD library, does anyone know how to?
[09:49] <shanepardue> kitche, do you know a command to display files larger than 4gb?
[09:50] <derrik> gan|y|med: the same as your mysql username and password
[09:50] <x-ip> !ub xlibs
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ub xlibs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <x-ip> !xlibs
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xlibs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <x-ip> i am having problems with xlibs, i need xlibs => 4
[09:51] <x-ip> apt-get install xlibs return that some packages refers to xlibs but xlibs will not be installed
[09:51] <kingace> what is the closest thing linux has to the vista sidebar?
[09:51] <x-ip> what can i do ?
[09:52] <floppyears> hi, I need to cp a 15gb file over the network what's the fastst scp or smb ?
[09:52] <x-ip> scp
[09:52] <engla> floppyears: don't use nautilus as abstraction layer anyhow
[09:53] <HymnToLife> definitely scp
[09:53] <HymnToLife> or sftp
[09:53] <x-ip> what can i do with this problem, xlibs
[09:53] <x-ip> where can i find it ?
[09:53] <x-ip> i need them to run openraider
[09:53] <floppyears> engla: no, I'm not using nautilus, the src file is on ubuntu and the dest is on a mac laptop
[09:53] <crowley1027> (i've already tried irc.gimp.org#evolution and no response)
[09:53] <crowley1027> I've been looking for a bit and i can't find how to work Gmail into evolution. I tried one tutorial and it didn't work. Can someone make my life easier and just quickly walk me through it here? I'm using 2.8
[09:53] <x-ip> the open proyecto from tomb raider
[09:53] <Justynka> lol
[09:53] <engla> ok, scp should be fast with the mac too
[09:54] <tyme-> will icecast stream to xbox360/other media players?
[09:54] <weaselst> I'm trying to set up a program that requires use of my modem (ncid).  The program is failing. How do I tell if ubuntu is recognizing my modem?
[09:55] <gan|y|med> derrik: and how are these?
[09:55] <x-ip> jo, synaptic save my life
[09:55] <gan|y|med> derrik: sorry, cannot google right now for the defaults in ubuntu
[09:55] <jasin> gmail in evolution: http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/lofiversion/index.php/t10801.html
[09:56] <Twinxor> sorry about that
[09:56] <Twinxor> was there any recommendation for a program to burn a .BIN and .CUE to CD?
[09:56] <ReleaseX> twinxor: k3b
[09:56] <derrik> gan|y|med: You first need to add a mysql user and then you can use the username and password that you create to log into the phpmyadmin that you installed.
[09:56] <Twinxor> thanks, ReleaseX
[09:57] <ReleaseX> twinxor: np
[09:57] <jasin> linux is beautiful
[09:57] <crowley1027> Linux is hard.
[09:57] <jasin> !tux
[09:57] <ubotu> tux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/
[09:57] <jasin> ubuntu is not hard
[09:57] <crowley1027> so uncompatable with everything.
[09:57] <gan|y|med> derrik: i should hit my head. haven't read the error message properly. sorry. it seems that the socket in var is wrong again. why that? that is an age old problem
[09:57] <jasin> crowley, like what?
[09:58] <crowley1027> well, i have an SNES emulator.  Can't just run it normally.  have to get the DLLs, load up WINE, and then troubleshoot the video/sound errors
[09:58] <derrik> gan|y|med: ahh. socket in var is wrong again? i don't understand. but as long as it's working now
[09:58] <Twinxor> crowley1027, tried a native emulator like ZSNES?
[09:58] <crowley1027> mhm
[09:59] <jasin> crowley, ummmmm thats not a fault of linux, windows stuff dont run natively in linux, its linux .. not windows.
[09:59] <crowley1027> actually
[09:59] <crowley1027> i know, thats why its so hard.
[09:59] <crowley1027> anyone here using evolution with gmail?
[09:59] <jasin> crowley, anything you can do in windows you can do in linux
[09:59] <rpereira> crowley1027: I'm using.
[10:00] <gan|y|med> derrik: mysql.sock points to the wrong file i think. i'll fix that. but thx a lot
[10:00] <jasin> crowley, you need to learnhow linux works rather then trying to emulate what you do know
[10:00] <crowley1027> rpereira: can you walk me through the info needed to set it up?  its not working for me.
[10:00] <jasin> gmail in evolution: http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/lofiversion/index.php/t10801.html
[10:00] <derrik>  gan|y|med : no problem
[10:02] <shanepardue> Is it true that partimage can't support large files on an ext filesystem?
[10:02] <shanepardue> ext3
[10:02] <ugarit> are the linux-headers* packages the source code for the kernel?
[10:02] <frying_fish> ugarit: no, but close enough for most things that you will need
[10:03] <hepme> does ubuntu use bootp to obtain my ip address from the livcd?
[10:03] <jasin> If you want to run windows stuff dont run linux run windows
[10:03] <Alex> Hello all - howcome vim doesn't seem to come with support for 'syntax on'? :)
[10:03] <jasin> linux is linux
[10:03] <tchado_> hi, since a week, i have a problem with my edgy, gnome freeze then the system. I have to restart and kill gnome-panel, the session restart and it's ok. Someone have an idea ?
[10:03] <ugarit> frying_fish: even to comple kqemu?
[10:03] <hepme> alex just doesn't, never has. they except vim users to carry a custom vimrc file with them everywhere they go :)
[10:04] <ugarit> frying_fish: even to compile kqemu?
[10:04] <Alex> hepme: I'm using one, however.. E319: Sorry, the command is not available in this version:   syntax on
[10:04] <hepme> what version
[10:04] <frying_fish> ugarit: yes, it has the "header" files, which will be what the program wants to compile against
[10:04] <shanepardue> Is it true that partimage can't support large files on an ext3 filesystem?
[10:04] <tuxutug> d
[10:04] <frying_fish> and link them in, so it should be fine.
[10:04] <DarthLappy> Alex: :syn on , maybe ?
[10:04] <daishadar> alex: is that from an out of the box ubuntu install?
[10:04] <jasin> tchado, hmm, any error messages?
[10:04] <Alex> daishadar: Yeah
[10:05] <Alex> daishadar: Same
[10:05] <Alex> er, DarthLappy Same
[10:05] <daishadar> alex: you should run sudo apt-get install vim
[10:05] <Alex> I'm going to try installing vim-full - that may help, I guess.
[10:05] <hepme> i like gvim's color schemes
[10:05] <rpereira> crowley1027: Just wait a minute.... I'm tel.
[10:05] <daishadar> alex: ubuntu version out of the box is not full unfortunatly
[10:05] <Alex> daishadar: That's bizzare - why?
[10:05] <rchf> Where can I post a Ubuntu configuration >solution< so that it gets out to others quickly?
[10:06] <daishadar> alex: i have no idea why!  i installed my first ubuntu system a week ago and encoutered the same problem ;)
[10:06] <hepme> pastebin?
[10:06] <shanepardue> Can partimage support large files on an ext filesystem?
[10:06] <meleeglow> I have a bargain pc with widows already on it I put an old drive in it can I install ubuntu on that drive without sacrificing master HDD
[10:06] <kingace> hello
[10:06] <crowley1027> rpereira: i got it :)
[10:06] <kingace> i'd like to create a launcher that brings up the menu
[10:06] <Alex> daishadar: How bizzare - oh well, vim-full fixes it
[10:06] <kingace> is there some sort of command
[10:06] <kingace> to make the menu come up
[10:07] <jasin> meleeglow, yes but you will need to repartition the drive
[10:07] <hepme> alt+f1
[10:07] <kingace> also is there a command to show the desktop
[10:07] <hepme> ctrl+alt+d
[10:07] <kingace> hepme: i mean a terminal command
[10:07] <hepme> woops i thought iw as in kubuntu
[10:07] <jasin> king, startx will get you to the desktop
[10:07] <pianoboy3333> What program will let me see what wireless networks are around me?
[10:07] <m12> how do you uninstall something you compiled from source
[10:07] <pianoboy3333> m12: what did you install it with?
[10:07] <pianoboy3333> m12: make install?
[10:07] <hepme> make uninstal?
[10:07] <m12> yes
[10:07] <meleeglow> jasin: the ol;d one right
[10:07] <rpereira> crowley1027: I'm almost finish the package to sync Google Calendar and Evolution too.
[10:07] <jasin> king, that is, if you are stuck at the command line and are not at any desktop
[10:08] <kingace> jasin: i want to make a launcher
[10:08] <shanepardue> Is it true that partimage can't support large files on an ext3 filesystem?
[10:08] <kingace> as ina  shortcut
[10:08] <lufis> What should I remove from the grub entry to disable the Ubuntu splash? "ro quiet splash", right?
[10:08] <pianoboy3333> m12: go back to the source directory and try a make uninstall or a make remove, but not all programs have that feature....
[10:08] <jasin> kingace, why? Grub will bot your desktop
[10:08] <m12> ok
[10:08] <jasin> boot
[10:09] <jasin> !usplash
[10:09] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[10:09] <VerdRousseau> what do you do when your gnome freezes?
[10:09] <kingace> jasin: thats not what i mean at all
[10:09] <jasin> kingace, ok
[10:09] <kingace> jasin: i have a basic dock program that supports adding shortcuts to programs
[10:09] <kingace> i'd like to make a menu in it
[10:09] <kingace> and a show desktop button
[10:09] <tchado_> when my desktop freeze i use syst cap or reset
[10:09] <jasin> king, i dont know.
[10:10] <VerdRousseau> syste cap?
[10:10] <kingace> jasin: ight thanks anyway
[10:10] <lufis> jasin: Thanks but that article only details customizing the splash screen
[10:10] <Phair> Is possible to add Kickoff from Suse into Kubuntu dapper?
[10:11] <blue-frog> in the menu layout gui there is a debian menu, how can I activate it and will it list programs not showing in the other menus?
[10:11] <tchado_> Alt+Syst+s ; Alt+Syst+u ; Alt+Syst+b
[10:12] <Kingsqueak> blue-frog: install menu and menu-xdg
[10:12] <GoodSoft> Hello. Is here anybody who installed Canon MP160 on Ubuntu?
[10:13] <ubuntu> hola
[10:14] <elyon> What is the partition manager in Ubuntu?  I need to grab more space from my Windows partition for LInux.
[10:14] <bucky> gfarted
[10:14] <blue-frog> Kingsqueak: ty but is it automatic afterwards? the readme is not very talkative
[10:14] <x-ip> why i cant get xlibs => 4 ?
[10:14] <jasin> ro, quiet and splash - these are optional but load the pretty splash screen that you see at boot time.
[10:14] <Kingsqueak> blue-frog: yes, anything packaged with a menu entry just shows up
[10:15] <jasin> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/29/tweaking-grub-ubuntu-510-6061-610/
[10:15] <Kingsqueak> blue-frog: will take a few mins after initial install to generate all the stuff, but then the Debian menu will be selectable and work
[10:15] <PxM> hi
[10:15] <Alzi2> Hey. When trying to install Flash, i get this: automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes. Anyone?
[10:15] <blue-frog> Kingsqueak: oh ok so it is automatic and there's nothing to launch to initiate it?
[10:15] <tchado_> Kingsqueak: but sometime i have a message after a restart, one gnome-panel is busy.
[10:16] <Kingsqueak> blue-frog: you just need to enable the Debian menu to be viewable, that's it
[10:16] <weaselst> I'm having an issue installing my modem, which turns up an error message. The only result I get on google is a ubuntu pastebin that is an exact replica of my log: www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/6200/
[10:16] <doviende> Alzi2: which package and which ubuntu version?
[10:16] <PxM> I have a problem with my voodoo 5
[10:16] <Alzi2> doviende: Xubuntu, flashplugin-nonfree
[10:16] <Alzi2> doviende: Edgy
[10:17] <bob_> hallo
[10:17] <hassan2a> hallo
[10:17] <hassan2a> hello
[10:18] <GoodSoft> I have problem with my Canon MP160
[10:18] <hjmills> http://pastebin.ca/299694
[10:18] <hjmills> i am having some problems with a script - the iwconfig command isnt working properly but it reports success and works when ran from the cli
[10:19] <PxM> Xorg and vesa mode don't workwith my PC(PII; Voodoo5)
[10:19] <weaselst> Could someone please aid me with my modem issue? I am installing a Smartlink modem and in the process of compiling the driver, it returns an error message. Only result on google? Someone who pastebinned their own exact copy of my log: www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/6200/
[10:19] <Alzi2> doviende: you there?
[10:20] <Moosejaw> hey all.
[10:20] <Alzi2> Hey. When trying to install Flash, i get this: automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes. Anyone?
[10:20] <Moosejaw> is there a way to make websites see linux as a windows based syste?
[10:20] <Alzi2> Moosejaw: Install the user agent switcher extension for Firefox
[10:20] <Moosejaw> k.
[10:20] <tk_> i fiinaly got to install my ati driver. but when i rebooted and log inn i see my resolution being very high and nothing apart from the ubuntu background and my mouse pointer.
[10:21] <tritium> Alzi2: you need the edgy-backports repo for the latest flash
[10:21] <Moosejaw> Alzi: can u answer a question about foxyproxy?
[10:21] <Alzi2> Moosejaw: no
[10:21] <Alzi2> tritium: how?
[10:21] <Moosejaw> hoping there is a way to have foxyproxy use canadian proxys only...
[10:21] <Moosejaw> is there a way to do this?
[10:21] <doviende> Alzi2: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:21] <tritium> !backports > Alzi2
[10:22] <Alzi2> thanks!
[10:22] <Alzi2> i didn't know about backports
[10:22] <doviende> Alzi2: i just installed flash last night and it worked fine.  i just enabled all the extra sources in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:22] <Alzi2> so then everything gets updated?
[10:23] <eilker> !modprobe
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <doviende> Alzi2: i didn't have to update that much
[10:23] <tritium> Alzi2: not until you refresh your package list and retry the install
[10:23] <tk_> i fiinaly got to install my ati driver. but when i rebooted and log inn i see my resolution being very high and nothing apart from the ubuntu background and my mouse pointer.  any suggestions?
[10:23] <m12> how do you add a new panel in gnome?
[10:23] <pimpi> ciao
[10:24] <m12> never mind, found it.  sorry
[10:24] <Alzi2> tritium: thanks :)
[10:24] <pimpi> parlate italiano?
[10:24] <Alzi2> worked!
[10:24] <AidanL> Hi, I wondered if someone could assist me on a small problem I am encountering after an install of Ubuntu 6.1
[10:24] <MuffY> i'm trying to install vlc player on Edgy, but i need to add "Universe and Multiverse repositories". There are guides how to do this, but they ask me to go to menus that don't exist >_>
[10:24] <bieb> !dialup
[10:24] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[10:24] <tchado_> m12 right click in gnome panel and add new
[10:25] <AidanL> I am trying to get my wireless USB adaptor to work. It is being detected however I need to install Ndiswrapper. I have the ndiswrapper files on my USB however my USB isn't being picked up by Ubuntu therefore I am unable to setup ndiswrapper. (I have no internet connection as it stands on ubuntu)
[10:26] <AidanL> Help would be greatly appriciated.
[10:26] <tk_> i fiinaly got to install my ati driver. but when i rebooted and log inn i see my resolution being very high and nothing apart from the ubuntu background and my mouse pointer load.  any suggestions?
[10:26] <tchado_> someone have an idea for my crash with gnome-panel ?
[10:26] <KenSentMe> Is it possible to make a script that runs banshee or rhythmbox with a non-default soundcard? I have two soundcards and don't want to manually switch every time i want to play music through my second card.
[10:27] <name> [17179700.924000]  ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/84 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0xb/47/00
[10:27] <name> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[10:27] <name> hey
[10:27] <name> that scares me
[10:27] <AidanL> Can someone help me as I am unable to install ndiswrapper as my USB stick isn't being picked up. How can I go about getting it recognised by Ubuntu?
[10:28] <name> wth is that
[10:28] <name> help meee ;)
[10:29] <sysdoc> Does anyone know of an app like motorola phone tools for linux?
[10:29] <terlmann> hello,help, does apt have a global make.conf when compiling packages with --build source ?
[10:29] <SpacePuppy> name: why does that scare you?
[10:29] <name> cause som/red
[10:29] <g0lem123> Greetings, Does anyone have a good site for the XO desktop? I understand it's the one that UBUNTU will be using on the OLPC machine.
[10:29] <name> argh
[10:29] <name> i can't even type cause it appears
[10:29] <terlmann> and can someone point me to a wiki page that describes it?
[10:29] <hjmills> http://pastebin.ca/299694
[10:29] <hjmills> i am having some problems with a script - the iwconfig command isnt working properly but it reports success and works when ran from the cli
[10:29] <name> for something is not right with my drive
[10:29] <name> or fs
[10:30] <AidanL> Can someone help me as my USB memory stick isn't being picked up by ubuntu...
[10:30] <name> AidanL: did you try mounting it manually?
[10:30] <hepme> does ubuntu livecd use only /dev/ram* meaning once i reboot there's no way to save any data, like if i edited a text file?
[10:30] <AidanL> No...
[10:30] <SpacePuppy> name: ya, it's kinda funny that an IDE drive is mounted on sda1
[10:31] <SpacePuppy> name: does it work?
[10:31] <name> its not IDE
[10:31] <name> it works with ro
[10:31] <name> learn to read ^^
[10:31] <IndyGunFreak> how do you install the GDM themes from http://www.gnome-look.org       ?
[10:31] <AidanL> How do I mount it?
[10:31] <name> its SATA
[10:31] <name> AidanL: do some rtfm
[10:31] <AidanL> (I am new to Ubuntu/Linux)
[10:31] <name> AidanL: search google ;)
[10:31] <kitche> !rtfm|name
[10:31] <ubotu> name: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[10:31] <name> ah
[10:31] <name> sorry
[10:31] <name> i didn't mean it unfriendly but
[10:32] <louis>   /!usb
[10:32] <louis> !usb
[10:32] <name> damn this
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <name> im kinda upset
[10:32] <AidanL> I came here purely because I needed help. Obviously it is wrong - well to some people anyway.
[10:32] <name> it's not
[10:32] <IndyGunFreak> doe sanyone know how to install a gdm theme from gnome-look.org?
[10:32] <name> i just have enough probs with my computer atm
[10:32] <AidanL> Thats fair enough.
[10:32] <name> didn't mean it unfriendly
[10:32] <name> just told you to search google
[10:33] <s34n> I've got a harddrive with LVM volumes on it I would like to read from my ubuntu station so I can suck data off
[10:33] <tritium> !enter > name
[10:33] <s34n> I read that I need to apt-get install lvm2
[10:33] <IndyGunFreak> name, perhaps you should clarify who you're talking to.
[10:33] <AidanL> kk Name:)
[10:33] <name> IndyGunFreak: hm?
[10:33] <s34n> but I suppose I will also need to configure fstab to mount the volumes
[10:34] <superjoe> I'm a noob, how do I connect my ubuntu hp laptop to my wireless network
[10:34] <fr500__> !enter
[10:34] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:34] <name> sorry but that bot kinda annoys me ^^
[10:34] <fr500__> superjoe: does ubuntu see your wireless nic?
[10:34] <VerdRousseau> I have a .deb file and I want to install it, I double click it but says cant install because of permissions; how do I do this as root?
[10:35] <name> sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[10:35] <sysdoc> IndyGunFreak, system>prefrences>Themes Install Theme
[10:35] <superjoe> i don't think so, where do I look/
[10:35] <xtian> i know this isnt ubuntu related, but if i wanted to learn C, and i didnt have much previous knowledge would the "C primer" book (the blue one) be a good choice
[10:35] <ale_> nessuno parla italiano?
[10:35] <fr500__> VerdRousseau: it should try to escalate premissions automatically, anyway gksudo gdebi debfile.deb
[10:35] <ale_> buonasera
[10:35] <Lynoure> !it | ale_
[10:35] <ubotu> ale_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:35] <s34n> ubotu:  please tell s34n about lvm
[10:35] <fr500__> superjoe: open the network control panel and see if it appears there
[10:36] <AidanL> It is probably better to see if I can get my USB wireless adaptor working before flash drive. How can I go about configuring Ubuntu so that my wireless will work?
[10:36] <HymnToLife> !wireless | AidanL
[10:36] <ubotu> AidanL: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:36] <fr500__> !wireless > AidannL
[10:36] <AidanL> !wireless
[10:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:37] <superjoe> fr500:i'm sorry how do I get to network control panel?
[10:37] <ale_> grazie
[10:37] <fr500__> superjoe: System-Admnistration-Network
[10:37] <dhq> need help setting up bluetooth
[10:38] <dhq> please help
[10:38] <name> that's a really good question
[10:38] <name> what about some information like what blootooth device etc
[10:38] <VerdRousseau> where do you find gtkwifi on your desktop?
[10:38] <billstei> !udev
[10:38] <ubotu> udev: rule-based device node and kernel event manager. In component main, is important. Version 093-0ubuntu18 (edgy), package size 224 kB, installed size 768 kB
[10:38] <Everflex> what option do i need to make in /etc/fstab so i can read/write without root?
[10:38] <name> man chmod
[10:39] <superjoe> fr500: network settings says wireless connection not configured
[10:39] <name> ah sorry
[10:39] <name> misread ;)
[10:39] <kitche> Everflex: this should help you
[10:39] <rverrips> /leave
[10:39] <kitche> !permission >Everflex
[10:39] <trev__> isntalled tremulous as root but now i can't permantenly change options, would changing the owner back to me fix this?
[10:39] <AidanL> My wireless isn't even being picked up:(. It shows up when I do lsusb in Terminal.
[10:40] <fr500__> AidanL try ndiswrapper
[10:40] <kitche> trev__: no since tremulous makes a fodler in your home folder called .tremulous
[10:40] <Everflex> kitche: thx, i'll have a look ;)
[10:40] <trev__> kitche:that folder has padlock icon over it
[10:41] <fredl> hi guys, is it against channel rules to ask for people to help with an opensource project?
[10:41] <tritium> fredl: no
[10:41] <AidanL> My problem is, is that I can't get ndiswrapper installed because my USB isn't being picked up therefore I cannot transfer the ndiswrapper files over to Ubuntu.
[10:41] <fr500__> AidanL try ndiswrapper
[10:41] <fredl> alright, so I've started this project called 'GLUE'. I could use some help, a LOT of help actually :)
[10:42] <fredl> if you want to check out what it is, check http://glue.3dn.nl
[10:42] <AidanL> fr500. How can I try it if I cannot get the ndiswrapper files onto Ubuntu?
[10:42] <pegger_> is it here the xfce guru?
[10:42] <AidanL> I can't get the files on because my USB stick isn't being picked up...:(
[10:42] <nolimitsoya> !justask | pegger
[10:42] <name> !meta
[10:42] <ubotu> pegger: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about meta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <fredl> it's not the fastest site on the planet since it's at my DSL connection :-)
[10:43] <fr500__> Aidan weird
[10:43] <nolimitsoya> fredl, whats the purpouse of this project?
[10:43] <AidanL> Yeah I know...
[10:43] <pegger_> what is the different if i install the xubuntu or install the xfce for the ubuntu?
[10:44] <VerdRousseau> just ran sudo dpkg -i gtkwifi.deb; dont know where to find it on my desktop?
[10:44] <fredl> nolimitsoya, the purpose is described on http://wiki.3dn.nl/index.php/GLUE
[10:44] <nolimitsoya> pegger_, the xubuntu package will include loads (diffrent) of defaults and some common apps
[10:44] <fredl> nolimitsoya, the description is fairly terse however.
[10:45] <rogue780> can someone reccomend a text-based gcc IDE similar to RHIDE for djgpp?
[10:45] <fredl> Either way, 'GLUE' is supposed to be a layer on top of the so many existing version control / bugtracking / SCM products.
[10:45] <dhq> name: mine is a intel laptop with bluetooth nuiltin
[10:45] <dhq> builtin
[10:46] <s34n> what do I have to do to discover and mount existing lvm volumes?
[10:46] <fredl> does that make enough sense?
[10:46] <rogue780> can someone reccomend a text-based gcc IDE?
[10:46] <rogue780> besides emacs
[10:46] <fredl> IDE?
[10:46] <HymnToLife> vim :)
[10:46] <nolimitsoya> rogue780, bash+vi? ;)
[10:47] <VerdRousseau> Anyone know where to find gtkwifi?
[10:47] <fredl> yeah.. haha, text based IDE = bash
[10:47] <ExM3th1x> could anybody tell me how to enable overburn in gnomebaker?
[10:47] <ExM3th1x> iam using version 0.6.0
[10:47] <ExM3th1x> (edgy)
[10:47] <trev__> ok, i am playing tremulous, can anyone tell me what to set the permissions to its config file in my home folder so i can save my options?
[10:47] <fr500__> VerdRousseau: i guess you gotta add it to the panel, right click the panel and add it, should try networkmanager tho
[10:47] <nolimitsoya> trev__, chown username:group /folder
[10:47] <nolimitsoya> *-r
[10:47] <fredl> anybody have any comment/questions on GLUE ?
[10:47] <trev__> ok, thx
[10:48] <VerdRousseau> do you have to install network manager or where is it?
[10:48] <nolimitsoya> fredl, im not sure... what would be diffrent from, say, launchpad?
[10:48] <tritium> VerdRousseau: no, you don't have to, but if you want to, you certainly can
[10:48] <VerdRousseau> I mean is it already installed?
[10:48] <fredl> nolimitsoya, well it's not a bugtracking system OR a version control system itself.....
[10:48] <mnoir> pegger_: if you install xfce on top of ubuntu you will have all the gnome tools as well.  There is not a very great difference.  maybe #xubuntu would be a good place to discuss
[10:48] <dhq> need help setting up bluetooth i cannot discover bluetooth from my cell nothing i am using a intel dell latitude d505 laptop bluetooth builtin
[10:49] <nolimitsoya> fredl, right... so its just a web interface?
[10:49] <trev__> nolimitsoya:what do you set the group to
[10:49] <fredl> nolimitsoya, it's supposed to be an application that keeps track of software modules, in which version control system they're kept, which bugtracking system is used for it etc.
[10:49] <superjoe_> anyone willing to help me connect to my wireles network from hp laptop w ubuntu
[10:49] <nolimitsoya> trev__, whatever group you belong to
[10:49] <VerdRousseau> so you reccomend network manager over gtkwifi?
[10:49] <pegger_> thanx mnoir
[10:49] <mnoir> np good luck
[10:49] <trev__> nolimitsoya:im a little confused, what group does the default user usually belong to?
[10:50] <fredl> nolimitsoya, nope, not quite. When the database is populated, GLUE should be able to use all this information to generate 'releases' coming from different repositories/bugtracking systems.
[10:50] <nolimitsoya> trev__, same as your username
[10:50] <trev__> ok
[10:50] <trev__> nolimitsoya:thx
[10:50] <mnoir> trev__: by convention, every user belongs to a group of the same name as the user.  the first user you make when installing also belongs to many other groups
[10:51] <fiveiron> where are HDDs mounted now?  not in /etc/fstab anymore i see
[10:51] <fritsch> hi! is there a way to just build the "generic" kernel from the 2.6.20 feisty kernel
[10:51] <fritsch> it lasted over 5 hours to build me the whole stuff from this package
[10:51] <mnoir> trev__: to see, in terminal type 'grep username /etc/group'
[10:51] <mnoir> or just 'less /etc/group'
[10:52] <trev__> thx
[10:52] <tritium> fritsch: don't bother unless you absolutely need to
[10:52] <tk_> hey.. how do i reinstall the x server on ubuntu 6.10?
[10:52] <fredl> nolimitsoya, additionally, GLUE should be able to generate (automatically) things like RPM's, DEB's etc. depending on the component's settings.
[10:52] <fritsch> tritium: there must be an option, an argument i think?
[10:52] <stooge4ever> hey, my liveCD won't boot - on 6.06, errors appear having to do with the ide and hdc, and on 6.10, the screen freezes while the OS is booting up; i think they freeze at around the same place
[10:53] <tritium> fritsch: nope
[10:53] <tritium> fritsch: Why are you building a custom kernel?  Do you really need to?
[10:53] <fritsch> tritium: yes i do
[10:53] <fritsch> tritium: i build kernels now over five years, so this is not the problem, i just wanted to stick to the ubuntu packages
[10:54] <tritium> fritsch: what is the need that the stock kernel does not address for you?
[10:54] <fredl> nolimitsoya, am I making any sense? :-)
[10:54] <fritsch> tritium: some patches, for exampe acpi ones
[10:54] <fritsch> tritium: and the ubuntu version is more integrated
[10:54] <fritsch> tritium: i do not have to google hours to search important patches and apply them myself
[10:54] <nolimitsoya> fredl, some. :) a more stringent description on the website, and a link to a faq, would probably be helpfull in generating more intrest :)
[10:55] <tritium> fritsch: if you want packages, be sure to install kernel-package and use make-kpkg
[10:55] <fritsch> tritium: some even get rejected, i have to fix them to apply mysel
[10:55] <fritsch> tritium: okay ;-) sorry, i do not think you can really help me
[10:55] <fredl> nolimitsoya, hey I built what I have in 4 days and I'm just cranking away at coding, I have no time to document stuff yet!
[10:55] <fredl> :)
[10:55] <tritium> fritsch: you haven't asked anything
[10:55] <fritsch> tritium: as i said above, i build debian kernel images for years now
[10:55] <fritsch> tritium: i did
[10:55] <AidanL> How do I get to root in terminal as I need to get to root in order to "make install" for ndiswrapper.
[10:55] <fritsch> tritium: i get the linux-image source from the feisty kernel
[10:56] <nolimitsoya> fredl, but without it, you wont have much luck recruiting, and thats what you wanted, wasnt it?
[10:56] <fritsch> tritium: agfter that i ran a dpkg-buildpackage to compile it on edgy
[10:56] <fredl> nolimitsoya, just imagine... 'glue build UBUNTU.ubuntu.org'
[10:56] <nolimitsoya> ^^
[10:56] <fritsch> tritium: problem is: bigiron, 386, etc. kernels are build this needs 5 hours
[10:56] <doviende> AidanL: "sudo make install"
[10:56] <fritsch> tritium: i just want to compile the generic version
[10:56] <tritium> You can't, as I said, from the linux-source packages
[10:57] <fritsch> tritium: i think i can, i just look into debian/rules
[10:57] <AidanL> ok thanks.
[10:57] <fredl> that should hopefully explain it better :) that command should get a list of all components in UBUNTU.ubuntu.org, for each of the components it should check all packages for open bugs, check out the revisions from the respective version control systems, and build debs!
[10:57] <fritsch> tritium: but i thought somebody has it handy for me already
[10:57] <AidanL> it tells me no rule to make target 'install'
[10:57] <Commander-Crowe> hi! I have Ubuntu Drapper installed and my wireless card shows up in the networking app. Yet I'm not able to connect to the local wireless router
[10:57] <zcherus> can someone recommend me good sftp daemon and possibly a guide for setting it up (including fxps)
[10:58] <doviende> Commander-Crowe: what did you use to attempt to connect?
[10:58] <fredl> nolimitsoya, but you're right.... I'll document the purpose more clearly and come back and ask more :)
[10:58] <stooge4ever> does anybody know whether there are compatibility issues b/t the ubuntu liveCD and an ATI Radeon card?
[10:58] <fritsch> tritium: just found it
[10:58] <Commander-Crowe> the networking app that comes with drapper
[10:58] <zcherus> !fxps
[10:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fxps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:58] <AidanL> stooge4ever - I don't think it is, I had trouble.
[10:58] <fredl> drapper?
[10:58] <fritsch> tritium: in debian/control i just comment out the packages i do not need
[10:58] <doviende> Commander-Crowe: and is your wireless router using WEP or WPA or no encryption?
[10:58] <mnoir> AidanL: then you are not in the right place or not following directions or using a package that is not conventionally made
[10:58] <stooge4ever> AidanL, you don't think what is?
[10:59] <hjmills> what stuff do i need to install for java in firefox?
[10:59] <Commander-Crowe> doviende: there is no encryption
[10:59] <mnoir> !java
[10:59] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:59] <mwe> !java | hjmills
[10:59] <ubotu> hjmills: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:59] <AidanL> I don't think that ATI radeon cards a compatible
[10:59] <braddcadd2000> Anyone willing to help configure my scanner through xsane?
[10:59] <mwe> hjmills: it comes with the plugin as well
[10:59] <stooge4ever> so what should i do? revert to my orig. card?
[10:59] <hjmills> mnoir and mwe: thanks
[11:00] <mnoir> hth :)
[11:00] <AidanL> because I had major problems using Live CD. I ended up downloading the ALT download and then recongifuring the x-server and set the driver as Versa (I think) and NOT ATI.
[11:00] <doviende> Commander-Crowe: ok, open a terminal and type "sudo iwlist scanning" and tell me if it sees your wireless router there
[11:00] <hjmills> mwe: that was the important bit - i didnt know if that was the plugin and all
[11:00] <AidanL> You could try although im not sure what that would do.
[11:00] <mwe> hjmills: come back if you can't get java to work in your browser after you have installed that
[11:00] <VerdRousseau> Now I just downloaded and installed network manager but not sure where It shows up have no idea where it is?
[11:00] <mwe> hjmills: you probably need to create a symlink. We'll explain how
[11:00] <stooge4ever> well, my original card (still in the comp) is integrated with the oard, and it's worked before with dapper
[11:00] <hjmills> VerdRousseau: eurgh - fiddled with that earlier - always seems to break my pc - good luck
[11:01] <Musashi> what
[11:01] <mnoir> verd - if you know synaptic - use it to locate any file in the package
[11:01] <HentaiSushi_> um
[11:01] <Commander-Crowe> Ib see 4
[11:01] <HentaiSushi_> i tried the live cd and it wouldnt run
[11:01] <AidanL> stooge: you could try that then.
[11:01] <pista> i've updated to feisty alpha, and now my sata2 drive (asus p5b-e, jmicron ich8) is slow (hdparm -tT /dev/hda shows buffered disk read 3MBps). what can be the problem?
[11:01] <adamE> alright
[11:01] <Commander-Crowe> all say "Interfernce doesn't support scanning."
[11:01] <Twinxor> how should I format this USB stick so it's all one partition?
[11:01] <VerdRousseau> so what do I do with synaptic mnoir (kinda confused)
[11:01] <BHSPitMonkey> pista, #ubuntu+1
[11:02] <mwe> pista: the problem could be that fiesty is totally unstable
[11:02] <doviende> Commander-Crowe: hmm....ok, i guess there's still some problem with drivers or something
[11:02] <Commander-Crowe> except eth1 it says "Interfernce doesn't support sscanning. : No Such Device"
[11:02] <mnoir> VerdRousseau: i will start at beginning - how did you install it?
[11:02] <doviende> Commander-Crowe: what type of wireless device?
[11:02] <Commander-Crowe> eth1 is wireless adapter
[11:02] <VerdRousseau> through synaptic
[11:02] <mwe> Commander-Crowe: iwconfig
[11:02] <Commander-Crowe> doviende: so what? install ndiswrapper?
[11:02] <Commander-Crowe> doviende: I'm not sure
[11:02] <mnoir> ok - is synaptic still open?
[11:02] <AidanL> Could someone assist me with the install of ndiswrapper. I am struggling... again.
[11:02] <VerdRousseau> yes
[11:02] <Tann> Ji
[11:03] <Tann> Hi
[11:03] <phr34ck> is there a way to save all currently installed packages into an external or something ?
[11:03] <Commander-Crowe> IEEE 802.11b/g
[11:03] <mwe> AidanL: you got to a little more specific ;)
[11:03] <Commander-Crowe> Broadcom 4306
[11:03] <Tann> where can i download ndiswrapper for Edgy?
[11:03] <mwe> AidanL: got to be*
[11:03] <BHSPitMonkey> AidanL, can you get the computer in question on the internet somehow? (so you can install stuff.)
[11:03] <fritsch> phr34ck: you think as kind of backup?
[11:03] <mnoir> good - go to settings - preferences
[11:03] <AidanL> No.
[11:03] <phr34ck> fritsch,  yes
[11:03] <VerdRousseau> alright
[11:03] <doviende> Commander-Crowe: ohhh....broadcom.  this should be interesting ;)
[11:03] <mnoir> make sure show package props is clicked
[11:03] <Tann> Hello
[11:03] <HentaiSushi_> omg TIME OUT HENTAISUSHI
[11:03] <fritsch> phr34ck: i would suggest you to use partimage
[11:03] <phr34ck> because I downloaded so many updates, and I don't want to do that each time I install Ubuntu.
[11:03] <Tann> where can i download ndiswrapper for Edgy?
[11:03] <VerdRousseau> k
[11:03] <BHSPitMonkey> AidanL, is this edgy we're talking about?
[11:03] <AidanL> Yeah:)
[11:03] <mnoir> click ok
[11:04] <doviende> Commander-Crowe: ok, hold on, let me find some URLs on ubuntuforums.org for you
[11:04] <VerdRousseau> k
[11:04] <AidanL> I am using a USB stick to transfer the ndiswrapper tar.gz file.
[11:04] <mnoir> use search to find pkg you installed
[11:04] <Commander-Crowe> doviende: its an inspiron 1150 laptop
[11:04] <Tann> Hello?
[11:04] <fritsch> phr34ck: this save your whole partition, tars it and here you go
[11:04] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[11:04] <mwe> AidanL: source code?
[11:04] <VerdRousseau> k
[11:04] <Tann> I need help
[11:04] <phr34ck> fritsch, will give it a try thanks.
[11:04] <doviende> Commander-Crowe: i think all we need to know is that it's a broadcom 4306
[11:04] <mwe> AidanL: can you extract it and compile?
[11:04] <mnoir> make sure is highlit and click installed files tab
[11:05] <AidanL> I can extraxt it yes
[11:05] <fritsch> phr34ck: be careful to save the image to another partition
[11:05] <AidanL> extract*
[11:05] <VerdRousseau> k
[11:05] <mwe> AidanL: but not compile?
[11:05] <fritsch> phr34ck: you cannot backup a partition and write the backup to it
[11:05] <phr34ck> fritsch,  sure.
[11:05] <Tann> Hello?
[11:05] <fritsch> Tann: hello!
[11:05] <phr34ck> First I have to search for the software ;p
[11:05] <AidanL> I don't think so. But I am not sure. (forgive me, I am new to all this)
[11:05] <fritsch> phr34ck: sudo apt-get install partimage
[11:05] <mnoir> prolly many files - look for it in a dir with /bin/ in the string
[11:05] <phr34ck> aha, great.
[11:05] <Tann> fritsch: where can i download ndiswrapper for Edgy?
[11:05] <mwe> AidanL: you need to install linux-headers-$(uname -r) and build-essential or else it wont compile
[11:05] <phr34ck> Thanks.
[11:05] <hjmills> AidanL: try getting the deb from packages.ubuntu.com and installing that
[11:05] <fritsch> Tann: apt-cache search ndiswrapper
[11:05] <fritsch> Tann: perhaps it is already installed
[11:06] <VerdRousseau> mnoir-what are we looking for?
[11:06] <Tann> i don't have internet
[11:06] <fritsch> Tann: you are online now?
[11:06] <mnoir> VerdRousseau: network manager?
[11:06] <Tann> it is not installed
[11:06] <fritsch> Tann: ndiswrapper is already patched in the ubuntu kernel
[11:06] <fritsch> Tann: you just need the utils
[11:06] <Tann> fritsch: on a different
[11:06] <Tann> comp
[11:06] <AidanL> Ok mwe and hjmills. I will try that.
[11:06] <mnoir> VerdRousseau: look for files in /usr/bin
[11:07] <fritsch> Tann: just apt-get it on you current and copy the deb file from /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:07] <doviende> Commander-Crowe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201902&highlight=broadcom+4306
[11:07] <fritsch> Tann: to the other one
[11:07] <doviende> Commander-Crowe: that seems to be for your wireless adapter
[11:07] <mwe> AidanL: building from source and installing a binary .deb are fundamentally different ;)
[11:07] <mnoir> VerdRousseau: 6.06 or 6.10?
[11:07] <Tann> fritsch: my current has win
[11:07] <VerdRousseau> k here /usr/bin/nm-appplet?
[11:07] <fritsch> Tann: ah perhaps better ;-)
[11:07] <VerdRousseau> 6.10
[11:07] <AidanL> I see.
[11:07] <phr34ck> meh, it's not connecting to archive.ubuntu.com
[11:07] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[11:07] <fritsch> Tann: just go to packages.ubuntu.com
[11:07] <mnoir> ah - great - i can show you how to make a click for it...
[11:07] <BHSPitLappy> For all of you who need to set up ndiswrapper, and don't have an internet connection on that computer, I have collected some useful Wifi packages for edgy, you can find them here: http://bhs2007.googlepages.com/edgy-wifi.zip
[11:07] <Tann> ok
[11:07] <fritsch> phr34ck: wrong proxy?
[11:07] <doviende> Commander-Crowe: unfortunately this type of wireless adapter seems to take more effort than others
[11:07] <VerdRousseau> alright...
[11:08] <fritsch> Tann: remeber to fetch the right version
[11:08] <phr34ck> ahhh it's working now
[11:08] <mwe> if you use the applet to install the network it will only work if gnome is running wont it?
[11:08] <BHSPitLappy> Put those on some kind of disk and install them on the PC... they'll all even fit on a floppy
[11:08] <Tann> fritsch: k
[11:08] <mnoir> VerdRousseau: you are running gnome or kde?
[11:08] <phr34ck> fritsch,  I want to ask you. How can I "permentaly" change the mac addres?
[11:08] <arn0ld> Hi I'm having a problem with my mouse, the sensitivity is still way too high in games even with the lowest settings on
[11:08] <MuffY>  what is everyones favourite text editor
[11:08] <VerdRousseau> gnome
[11:08] <MuffY> as in code editor (C/C++ code)
[11:08] <mwe> MuffY: that's a religous question ;)
[11:08] <fritsch> phr34ck: permanent, also when your computer is poered off
[11:08] <phr34ck> each time I boot Ubuntu, I go to change the mac address .. it's a pain in the behind.
[11:08] <MuffY> i know :P
[11:08] <fritsch> phr34ck: no go (for easy)
[11:08] <mnoir> k - right click your bar at the top
[11:08] <hjmills> MuffY: vim
[11:08] <MuffY> but i have no idea now
[11:08] <mnoir> in a blank area
[11:08] <arn0ld> does anyone know of a way I can manually edit the mouse sensitivity?
[11:08] <fritsch> phr34ck: but you could run a random mac change script
[11:08] <mwe> MuffY: probably vim or emacs
[11:08] <Commander-Crowe> doviende: yeah I'm used to ndiswraper...its all I ever used
[11:09] <MuffY> so after the rampage i'll have some options to choose from
[11:09] <VerdRousseau> k
[11:09] <MuffY> woo
[11:09] <MuffY> ty peeps
[11:09] <fritsch> phr34ck: just install macchanger
[11:09] <phr34ck> fritsch, Do you think it will be easy to create a script and run it at boot ?
[11:09] <mnoir> VerdRousseau: first item should be add to panel - clickit
[11:09] <fritsch> phr34ck: very easy
[11:09] <MuffY> will check now, and please don't start a holy war while i'm gone =p
[11:09] <fritsch> phr34ck: sudo apt-get install macchanger
[11:09] <doviende> Commander-Crowe: if everything's working, you should be able to see the card in iwconfig and you should be able to scan with iwlist
[11:09] <phr34ck> Kay, will do.
[11:09] <VerdRousseau> k
[11:09] <arn0ld> can anyone help
[11:09] <VerdRousseau> now custom app launch?
[11:09] <fritsch> phr34ck: after that just look over the readme
[11:09] <mwe> !helpme
[11:09] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:09] <mnoir> you get big window of stuff?
[11:09] <VerdRousseau> yes
[11:09] <hjmills> arn0ld: its in the gnome mouse setting panel
[11:10] <Commander-Crowe> doviende: ok...right now I'm using the eth0 connection
[11:10] <phr34ck> fritsch, thanks a lot.
[11:10] <arn0ld> its already lowest there
[11:10] <mnoir> it should be somewhere there
[11:10] <bds> MuffY: Try typing vimtutor
[11:10] <fritsch> phr34ck: no problem
[11:10] <bds> MuffY: to get you started
[11:10] <arn0ld> The problem is I need it lower
[11:10] <MuffY> ?
[11:10] <VerdRousseau> the network manager should be
[11:10] <MuffY> here?
[11:10] <mnoir> yes
[11:10] <MuffY> !vimtutor
[11:10] <hjmills> arn0ld: why lower?
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vimtutor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <mnoir> VerdRousseau: yes
[11:10] <bds> MuffY: Not here, vimtutuor is a tutorial on how to use vim
[11:10] <phr34ck> fritsch, partimage will save all these packages, yes ?
[11:10] <arn0ld> Need it lower to play a game
[11:10] <VerdRousseau> no only thing is network monitor but already have that
[11:10] <mwe> figuring out how to quit emacs the first time can be a challenge as well ;)
[11:10] <mnoir> hrmmmm
[11:10] <bds> MuffY: It has a little bit of a learning curve
[11:10] <fritsch> phr34ck: it will same your partition
[11:10] <MuffY> bds: ah, on the internets?
[11:10] <fritsch> phr34ck: as an image
[11:10] <VerdRousseau> do I haved to do a custom app launch?
[11:11] <Tann> fritsch: i am lost
[11:11] <MuffY> bds: i don;t mind
[11:11] <bds> MuffY: From the command line
[11:11] <MuffY> bds: i have the time
[11:11] <mnoir> VerdRousseau: are you running 6.06 or 6.10?
[11:11] <BHSPitMonkey> AidanL, Tann, have you got the ndiswrapper stuff figured out?
[11:11] <phr34ck> So lets say I have formatted my computer, how can I restore it?
[11:11] <fritsch> phr34ck: you just want to save the "downloaded" pacakges?
[11:11] <MuffY> (and hopefully the patience)
[11:11] <Tann> fritsch: do i need the common and utils?
[11:11] <MuffY> ?
[11:11] <MuffY> nono
[11:11] <VerdRousseau> 6.10
[11:11] <fritsch> phr34ck: you boot with lets say knoppix (or something else)
[11:11] <phr34ck> fritsch, yeah something like that.
[11:11] <MuffY> i just want something to write code in
[11:11] <mnoir> give me 2 min to find on my sys
[11:11] <VerdRousseau> k
[11:11] <bds> MuffY: It is very similar to vi, which should be installed on any unix like machine
[11:11] <fritsch> phr34ck: then you run partimage an just play your old image in
[11:11] <MuffY> with syntax highlighting and such
[11:11] <phr34ck> Like yesterday, I updated 82 packages and it took the whole day.
[11:11] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here good with ndiswrapper?
[11:11] <mwe> MuffY: emacs. don't believe people who tell you to use vim ;)
[11:11] <phr34ck> I don't want that to happen when I install ubuntu ...
[11:11] <fritsch> phr34ck: some packages are in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:12] <AidanL> I have installed ndiswrapper from a .dab package. Whereabouts will it be stored so I can access it?
[11:12] <fritsch> phr34ck: but i do not think just saving them ist sufficant
[11:12] <BHSPitLappy> pianoboy3333, everybody's going nuts over ndiswrapper right now :S
[11:12] <AidanL> I have found it. Forgive me.
[11:12] <bds> MuffY: Emacs or Vi/Vim are both good choices for writing code
[11:12] <tritium> AidanL: via apt?  /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:12] <mwe> AidanL: if it worked, sudo modprobe ndiswrapper should work
[11:12] <fritsch> phr34ck: because having the packages is not a mirror itself (a packages mirror)
[11:12] <phr34ck> well, I think will make an imagine and will learn how to make work and everything.
[11:12] <MuffY> ok
[11:12] <bds> MuffY: Syntax highlighting, code folding, etc.
[11:12] <mnoir> VerdRousseau: i am installing - 2 more min :)
[11:12] <dev> i just installed ubuntu like a day ago, went to play a clip on cnn in firefox and it says totem is unable to handle mms
[11:12] <VerdRousseau> k no problem
[11:13] <Argoran> can sb help me with xchat?
[11:13] <MuffY> soo, where is vim :o
[11:13] <bds> MuffY: I prefer vim, but as mwe pointed out it is a personal preference
[11:13] <phr34ck> fritsch,  form where I can launch those 2 programs you gave me?
[11:13] <fritsch> Tann: whats the problem?
[11:13] <MuffY> you said it should be here somewhere :p
[11:13] <fritsch> phr34ck: just open a terminal
[11:13] <fritsch> phr34ck: sudo partimage
[11:13] <phr34ck> ahh okay
[11:13] <Tann> what files shoud download
[11:13] <MuffY> (i installed ubuntu about 8 hours ago, so i'm a bit new =))
[11:13] <fritsch> phr34ck: but, one last time, be very careful
[11:13] <mwe> MuffY: yeah. try them both. I was just promoting my personal favorite ;)
[11:13] <phr34ck> fritsch, will do mate.
[11:13] <bds> MuffY: Open a terminal and type 'vimtutor'
[11:13] <Argoran> who can I activate the buddylist in xchat on the right side?
[11:13] <BHSPitLappy> Tann, where are you at with this?
[11:13] <phr34ck> One question ... like now, where did they get saved?
[11:13] <Tann> fritsch: do i need the common and utils?
[11:13] <MuffY> yay!
[11:14] <fritsch> Tann: i think the ndiswrapper stuff is already installed
[11:14] <bds> MuffY: or to cut to the chase type 'vim'
[11:14] <phr34ck> I did install the package, but where did they got installed?
[11:14] <fritsch> Tann: mom i check on a fresh edgy
[11:14] <fritsch> Tann: ah they are not
[11:14] <Tann> ok
[11:14] <MuffY> bash says vimtutor is nonexistent
[11:14] <AidanL> There was a fatal error when doing sudo modprove ndiswrapper. There was an invalid argument.
[11:14] <Argo> Hi
[11:14] <Tann> fritsch: what should i do?
[11:14] <mwe> MuffY: sudo aptitude install vim
[11:14] <Argo> can anybody help me with XChat?
[11:14] <MuffY>     version 7.0.35
[11:14] <fritsch> Tann: try to download these: ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[11:14] <MuffY> ~                           by Bram Moolenaar et al.  << that's a dutchie =)
[11:15] <mwe> MuffY: oh
[11:15] <fritsch> Tann: two packages
[11:15] <mwe> odd
[11:15] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, have you set up your card yet, in ndiswrapper? given it the driver, etc?
[11:15] <AidanL> No
[11:15] <AidanL> I don't know where to find the driver. That is a problem I am having/
[11:15] <tritium> AidanL: you installed the ubuntu package, I hope?
[11:15] <fritsch> Tann: later they are installed with: sudo dpkg -i "the above named packeges"
[11:15] <MuffY> at least his name is dutch
[11:15] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, you get the driver from the manufacturer's CD or site...
[11:15] <mwe> MuffY: vim is supposed to provide vimtutor
[11:15] <AidanL> Tritium, I did yes.
[11:15] <AidanL> I see.
[11:15] <tritium> good
[11:15] <BHSPitLappy> you'll find an inf file somewhere
[11:15] <VerdRousseau> when I do install network manager which one do I click on regular network manager or network manager gnome?
[11:16] <bds> mwe: I thought it did as well o_0
[11:16] <Tann> fritsch: ok
[11:16] <mnoir> VerdRousseau: in terminal type man nm-applet to read about this.  I am not quickly finding good answer for you so you may as well read along - I will race you to the answer :)
[11:16] <AidanL> I will do that now then. I am very sorry about this. I am new to Ubuntu.
[11:16] <tritium> AidanL: no need to apologize :)
[11:16] <mwe> bds: it does I'm sure ;) odd
[11:16] <VerdRousseau> lol alright soudn good but did you see that question before that
[11:16] <BHSPitLappy> VerdRousseau, to install, you get the -gnome
[11:16] <VerdRousseau> about which one to install
[11:16] <MuffY> uhm, bds, vim doesn;t really look splendid
[11:16] <AidanL> :)
[11:16] <VerdRousseau> K
[11:16] <MuffY> what did i do wrong
[11:16] <VerdRousseau> cause I am doin a reinstall of it
[11:16] <MuffY> it's just a terminal window :/
[11:16] <mwe> MuffY: yes ;)
[11:16] <Argoran> can anybody help me with xchat?
[11:16] <bds> MuffY: That is the learning curve part
[11:17] <MuffY> :p
[11:17] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, no problem. Ndiswrapper isn't a wireless driver, it's something that lets you use Windows wireless card drivers in linux.
[11:17] <mwe> MuffY: now start typing ;)
[11:17] <fritsch> phr34ck: an apt proxy you could also install
[11:17] <MuffY> i did
[11:17] <mnoir> VerdRousseau: where did it show before?
[11:17] <Everflex> how do i make a Volume behave like the /home directory (so i can write to it without root)
[11:17] <Madpilot> Argoran, lots of people here use it - just ask your question, you should get help...
[11:17] <VerdRousseau> Never mind it installs both when you click one
[11:17] <Cypher> how can i daul boot with windows
[11:17] <fritsch> Everflex: you have to mount it correctly
[11:17] <bds> Is vimtutor a seperate package?
[11:17] <MuffY> but it doesn;t highlight anything =(
[11:17] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, did you get that link I sent out earlier? It contains ndisgtk, it makes it a -tad- easier, and it also includes some other useful wifi packages.
[11:17] <Cypher> menu.lst need to be configured
[11:17] <mnoir> VerdRousseau: you all set?
[11:17] <mwe> MuffY: :q! to quit or :w to save the file. it will use highlighting by default I think. there is gvim if you want a more windows like thingy
[11:17] <Argoran> ok thx Madpilot
[11:17] <Cypher> how to do that
[11:17] <MuffY> bds: you shouldn't ask me =p
[11:17] <phr34ck> fritsch, I'm looking for something that will do my work at boot time. Like each time I want to change the mac-address "and that happens each time I want to connect to the internet", I do the following:
[11:18] <bds> MuffY: It does, you need to se up your .vimrc file
[11:18] <phr34ck> sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[11:18] <Everflex> fritsch: i'm mounting it with fstab, but i just can't find an option that does what i want.
[11:18] <phr34ck> sudo ifconfig eth0 hw ether MACADDRESS
[11:18] <hjmills> MuffY: run "sudo updatedb && locate vimrc" then edit that file and turn syntax highlighting on
[11:18] <Argoran> my problem with XChat is following: The buddylist should normally be on the right of the windows, but it isn't
[11:18] <phr34ck> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[11:18] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, http://bhs2007.googlepages.com/edgy-wifi.zip
[11:18] <AidanL> It is telling me that HArdware isn't present. Although it is.
[11:18] <phr34ck> I just want these 3 steps to be done at boot time.
[11:18] <Argoran> can anybody give me a advice how to activate the buddy-list?
[11:18] <fritsch> Everflex: umask set correctly?
[11:18] <mwe> MuffY: it should hightlight depending on the extension by default I think
[11:18] <BHSPitLappy> Argoran, there's #xchat for xchat support
[11:19] <Argoran> thank you BHSPitLappy
[11:19] <fritsch> Everflex: /dev/sda2 /media/sda2     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[11:19] <fritsch> Everflex: this is an example
[11:19] <fr500__> Argoran: see the icon that says 925 users?
[11:19] <fritsch> Everflex: the device /dev/Sda2 is mounted to /media/sda2 <- this is a local directory, this must exist
[11:19] <MuffY> hjmills: it gives a "how to use apt-get" thing
[11:19] <fr500__> click there
[11:19] <MuffY> so i think the syntax isn;t right
[11:19] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, hmm. and you gave it the proper .inf file?
[11:19] <hjmills> MuffY: that update db && ... command?
[11:20] <Argoran> fr500__ no I can't see it
[11:20] <fritsch> phr34ck: just a script like this
[11:20] <MuffY> nm hjmills
[11:20] <Everflex> fritsch: yeah.. i have the drive mounted and all (it's ext3) but i can only write to it with root.,.
[11:20] <hjmills> MuffY: that shouldnt be anything to do with apt
[11:20] <fritsch> phr34ck: #!/bin/sh
[11:20] <AidanL> yes, the name: blkwgu.inf
[11:20] <hjmills> MuffY: kk
[11:20] <MuffY> i saw too many apt-gets today, i lost a bit of your code :P
[11:20] <fritsch> phr34ck: ifconfig eth0 down
[11:20] <fr500__> Argoran: never mind, i'm with xchat-gnome sorry
[11:20] <LinTux> I would like to install Xara Extreme in Kubuntu, what is the command in terminal to use as I cannot find the package?
[11:20] <MuffY> my eeeyyeesss
[11:20] <AidanL> I dragged it into the blank white area and it was trying to install.
[11:20] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, ah, it's a belkin...
[11:20] <Everflex> fritsch: is it possible to use umask with ext3?
[11:20] <mwe> MuffY: only files with extension like .c or whatever will be highlighted in vim I think
[11:20] <Madpilot> Argoran, are you running the real XChat, or the awful & useless XChat-Gnome?
[11:20] <AidanL> Yeah...
[11:20] <AidanL> It now says HArdware PResent.
[11:21] <bds> MuffY: This is my .vimrc
[11:21] <BHSPitLappy> good
[11:21] <fritsch> phr34ck: macchanger eth0 "YOUR MAC"
[11:21] <fritsch> phr34ck: thats all
[11:21] <bds> MuffY: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/165/
[11:21] <phr34ck> fritsch, interesting.
[11:21] <Argoran> Madpilot its the gnome version
[11:21] <phr34ck> I should read an articale about how making scripting for boot time.
[11:21] <fritsch> Everflex: you do not need to, just look, that the directory you mount to has the correct permissions
[11:21] <AidanL> Although I don't know what to do next...
[11:21] <phr34ck> Do you know how I can configure my boot >?
[11:21] <MuffY> bds: your what?
[11:21] <LinTux> can anyone help me to install Xara Extreme in Kubuntu
[11:21] <fritsch> phr34ck: easiest way is:
[11:21] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, did you get that link I sent you earlier
[11:21] <phr34ck> Like Ubuntu does some stuff that I don't need "bluetooth and raid and stuff like that"
[11:21] <AidanL> Yeah
[11:21] <Madpilot> Argoran, ick. Ditch that, use the older, better XChat. Xchat-gnome has some sort of goofy popup user list that can't be configured.
[11:22] <AidanL> The Edgy Packages.
[11:22] <fritsch> phr34ck: just append these lines to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[11:22] <Everflex> fritsch: so what should i use to change the permissions to that, chmod?
[11:22] <mwe> bds: syntax highlighting is disabled by default? I guess I must have enabled it without giving thought to it
[11:22] <AidanL> Do I install all of the packages on there?
[11:22] <fritsch> Everflex: chown and chmod
[11:22] <fritsch> Everflex: chown ist enough
[11:22] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, it contains network-manager-gnome, you'll want that.
[11:22] <MuffY> bds: just for the record, i am a total n00b regarding anything ubuntu does
[11:22] <phr34ck> that file is responsible for the boot ?
[11:22] <fritsch> Everflex: lets say you want to mount /dev/hda3 to /media/lala
[11:22] <fritsch> Everflex: an the user "heinz" should be able to write to this directory
[11:22] <bds> MuffY: from a terminal type the following 'vim ~/.vimrc'
[11:22] <AidanL> Righty Ill install that and report back:)
[11:22] <fritsch> just do chown heinz:users /media/lala
[11:22] <BHSPitLappy> aye aye.
[11:23] <Argoran> ok thx Madpilot
[11:23] <fritsch> and mount /dev/hda3 per default to this directory
[11:23] <bds> MuffY: When vim loads press 'i' to insert
[11:23] <LinTux> does anybody know the name for the package Xara Extreme so that I can install it via terminal
[11:23] <bds> MuffY: Type or paste the options you want
[11:23] <mwe> fritsch: permissions of mount points have no effect once a file system is mounted ;)
[11:23] <Tann> fritsch: thanks
[11:23] <mwe> fritsch: only options to mount do
[11:24] <MuffY> ok?
[11:24] <bds> MuffY: Then hit the escape key and type ':wq!'
[11:24] <mwe> fritsch: like umask etc
[11:24] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, just make sure to say my name in here, so I'll notice.
[11:24] <bds> MuffY: Those setting will now be loaded everytime you start vim
[11:24] <AidanL> BHSPitLappy: Ah, it tells me the Dependency is not satisfyable: network Manager.
[11:24] <Everflex> mwe: okay, so is it in the fstab file i cahange wether i can write to the disk or not without root?
[11:24] <fritsch> mwe: you could be write, but chown after the mount should just be enough
[11:24] <MuffY> what's the exclamation mark for?
[11:24] <MuffY> w for saving, q for quit
[11:24] <mwe> Everflex: that or the command line
[11:24] <phr34ck> Guys, what font are you using?
[11:25] <MuffY> ty bds
[11:25] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, all the dependencies are in that archive.
[11:25] <bds> MuffY: np :)
[11:25] <phr34ck> This is soo uncomfortable. I'm using 1280x800 on a 15.4" screen.
[11:25] <hjmills> what symlinks do i need for the repo java to work in firefox?
[11:25] <phr34ck> I couldn't find any good font for that.
[11:25] <mwe> MuffY: ! means don't ask me for confirmation. just do what I tell you. I know what I'm doing
[11:25] <LinTux> Does anybody know the package name for Xara Extreme in order for me to install it via terminal
[11:25] <MuffY> oh
[11:25] <AidanL> BHSPitLappy: Do i need to put all of the .deb packages from the zipped file onto Ubuntu?
[11:26] <MuffY> but i don;t knwo whta i'm doing (yet), and it says some things are wrong, i guess i should have copied the comments xD
[11:26] <VerdRousseau> mnoir- Im restarting maybe thatll do the trick.
[11:26] <stefan09> hi
[11:26] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, pretty much... do all except for wifi-radar for now.
[11:26] <AidanL> Ok :)
[11:26] <kamui> what do I need to put into my /etc/fstab to allow a fat32 external hard drive to automount at boot AND allow any user to write to it?
[11:26] <mwe> MuffY: what does it complain about ?
[11:26] <AidanL> BHSPit: Where abouts should I place them on Ubuntu, Will my desktop do?
[11:26] <kamui> right now I haev /dev/sda1       /media/BACKUP   auto    user,auto       0       0
[11:26] <MuffY> it says your comments aren't valid commands (duhh..)
[11:27] <MuffY> so i'm removing the comments now
[11:27] <alecjw> kamui: if it's jujst the filesystem name that you nned to know, it's vfat
[11:27] <kamui> I thought the USER option there allowed anyone to write to it
[11:27] <mwe> kamui: you need umask=000 as well under options
[11:27] <bds> MuffY: The comment character for .vimrc is ;
[11:27] <kamui> nwe: umask=666?
[11:27] <mwe> kamui: or umask=0000 rather
[11:27] <AidanL> BHSPitLappy: Should I place all of the packages on my desktop?
[11:27] <mwe> kamui: no
[11:27] <bds> MuffY: perhaps there was a problem with the paste
[11:27] <mwe> kamui: it's a mask
[11:28] <MuffY> it says " in your link :P
[11:28] <bds> MuffY: Sorry you are right
[11:28] <mwe> kamui: umask=666 would mean perms read only
[11:28] <bds> MuffY: It should be "
[11:28] <user2007> under edgy eft, what gstreamer deb holds the mp3 codec?
[11:28] <alecjw> kamui: it allows anyone to mount/unmount it. to allow anyone to write it, sudo chmod -hR 777 <mountPoint>
[11:28] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, you can place them all in some directory if you want, and you can install them all at once with a command, or just double click them.
[11:28] <mwe> alecjw: that wont work for fat
[11:28] <stefan09> can someone help me with loading a kernel module please?
[11:28] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, the desktop will work fine.
[11:28] <mwe> kamui: listen to me please. I know what I'm talking about
[11:29] <MuffY> it doesn't regocnise " either
[11:29] <mwe> alecjw: fat doesn't know about permissions
[11:29] <fr500__> user2007: maybe gstreamer ugly multiverse
[11:29] <mwe> alecjw: you need to use mount options like umask
[11:29] <kamui> mwe: I am, I just made the change
[11:29] <alecjw> mwe: oh right. i thought FAT =>16 coyuld handle them
[11:29] <pipas> hi everybody
[11:29] <MuffY> bds: it won;t let me type a "
[11:29] <mwe> alecjw: well it doesn't ;)
[11:29] <AidanL> BHS: Ok:)
[11:29] <AidanL> I will do that in a mo.
[11:29] <Tann> fritsch: How do you setup a network connection using the hardware that was installed using ndiswrapper?
[11:30] <MuffY> bds: nm it works now
[11:30] <phr34ck> any of you know a good C++ IDE to work with big projects? Like 15 files and more.
[11:30] <mwe> kamui: does it work now? if not paste /etc/fstab to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:30] <binarydigit> phr34ck: anjuta
[11:30] <BHSPitLappy> Tann, I like using network-manager for wifi.
[11:30] <bieb> LinuxTux are you trying to install Xara the graphics software?
[11:30] <BULLE> phr34ck: netbeans, eclipse ?
[11:30] <kamui> mwe: gotta remount real quick, seems that since Its also being used by samba, I can't just unmount
[11:30] <bds> MuffY: Vim is different in that it is modal
[11:30] <Tann> ok
[11:30] <mwe> kamui: oh
[11:30] <bds> MuffY: Meaning you are either in edit or read only mode
[11:30] <fr500__> BHSPitLappy: and vpn too!
[11:30] <user2007> fr500__, doesnt seem to be
[11:31] <mwe> kamui: kill samba if you have to
[11:31] <MuffY> bds: that sucks :p
[11:31] <BHSPitLappy> Tann, you can get it (with its dependencies) in this file, if you want http://bhs2007.googlepages.com/edgy-wifi.zip
[11:31] <VerdRousseau> mnoir- I restarted and I have the icon now but its saying no network connection
[11:31] <fr500__> user2007: it's either that or lame
[11:31] <VerdRousseau> even though I have connection
[11:31] <phr34ck> BULLE, I can use eclipse for C++ ?
[11:31] <mnoir> VerdRousseau: that is a totally new problem to me
[11:31] <fritsch> Tann: depends
[11:31] <arrenlex> phr34ck: Yes.
[11:31] <bds> MuffY: It is tough to get used to but some people seems to like it
[11:31] <mwe> phr34ck: if you install the plugin
[11:31] <MuffY> about some things that aren't available in this version
[11:31] <arrenlex> !eclipse-cdt | phr34ck
[11:31] <phr34ck> I was readin the other day about how to install ecplice on Ubuntu ... I quit instantly ;p
[11:31] <MuffY> what's the current version?
[11:31] <ubotu> eclipse-cdt: C/C++ Development Tools for Eclipse. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.1-3 (edgy), package size 17049 kB, installed size 21896 kB
[11:31] <fritsch> Tann: using network-manager is the easiest way
[11:31] <mnoir> VerdRousseau: what are you trying to do  and what have you done to do it?
[11:32] <MuffY> w00t!
[11:32] <MuffY> i installed gvim by myself =)
[11:32] <MuffY> i even made up the commands ^_^
[11:32] <mnoir> VerdRousseau: if it is wireless i am totally lost
[11:32] <mwe> MuffY: woah ;)
[11:32] <MuffY> i feel so 1337 now :p
[11:32] <bds> MuffY: :)
[11:32] <mwe> MuffY: you are indeed
[11:33] <MuffY> |_3t5 T4|_|< |_13|< T|-|15
[11:33] <hjmills> MuffY: vim being modal is gd - most of the time you will be in insert mode and can type v happily but press escape to get out of insert mode and u can jump akk over the text, do find and replace, delete whole blocks of text etc all without the help of a rodent
[11:33] <MuffY> :p
[11:33] <MuffY> don;t worry, i'll stop it
[11:33] <phr34ck> Kay, thanks.
[11:33] <arrenlex> !leet | MuffY
[11:33] <ubotu> MuffY: 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.
[11:33] <kamui> mwe: sorry, looked like I was IN irssi from the directory
[11:34] <MuffY> arrenlex: i was joking...
[11:34] <phr34ck> I'm downloading anjuta now, will give it a try and then I will install ecplice. I need it since it's an IDE for both C++ and Java, which I use them.
[11:34] <mwe> kamui: yes?
[11:34] <mnoir> MuffY: if yiu are going to use (g)vim their own website is your friend as is #vim
[11:34] <adam_> hi! Is there anyone here who could help me with sound setup in Ubuntu?
[11:34] <Tann> fritsch: ok
[11:34] <arrenlex> MuffY: I know, it was mostly like a "whoa, there actually IS a !leet factoid!!"
[11:34] <MuffY> lol
[11:34] <kamui> mwe: and after a full unmount and mount, not just the -o remount, I was able to create a directory as my regular user ;)
[11:34] <MuffY> ok :P
[11:34] <MuffY> i was surprised too xD
[11:35] <AidanL> BHSPitLappy: I am installing them now.
[11:35] <kamui> mwe: thanks a ton.  Let me just check and makes sure that my samba users can now write to teh drive and I think Ill be in great shape
[11:35] <mwe> kamui: that's great. the umask is working then. does ls -l the mount point confirm it?
[11:35] <AidanL> BHSPITLappy: It keeps telling me that Software Channel is not available. YEt they do install...
[11:35] <VerdRousseau> Anyone here get their network manager working nicely?
[11:35] <AidanL> No ignore me I read it wrong.
[11:35] <MuffY> talk about 1337 h4xorz, read this webcomic: www.megatokyo.com
[11:35] <Madpilot> arrenlex, the bot is the smartest thing in this room, so of course there's a !leet tell ;)
[11:35] <mwe> kamui: well that depends on the samba configuration but mounting it right is a necessity
[11:35] <kamui> mwe: yep, everyting is WRX for owner, user, group, tho Im now the owner...
[11:35] <MuffY> it's funny, and drawn nicely :O (it get's better when you read further)
[11:36] <arrenlex> Madpilot: Well said.
[11:36] <arrenlex> !botsnack
[11:36] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:36] <Tann> fritsch: where can i download the network manager
[11:36] <tyme-> !slap
[11:36] <Hawk||-> ACTION slaps tyme- around the head with a hydraulic pump
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <tyme-> !slap  arrenlex
[11:36] <Hawk||-> ACTION slaps tyme- around the head with two electrodes
[11:36] <BHSPitLappy> aid
[11:36] <adam_> I am trying to set up a lexicon omega usb soundcard. Got some sinus tones working in sound preferences but can't find the card in the normal volume control. Then the test sounds stopped working as well...
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slap  arrenlex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, okay
[11:37] <tyme-> pft
[11:37] <tyme-> =[
[11:37] <s34n> how do you search for a particular apt package?
[11:37] <AidanL> BHSPitLappy: I have a problem with: wpagui. It tells me there is an Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libqt4-core.
[11:37] <bds> anybody tried installing ubuntu on a macbook?
[11:37] <tyme-> apt-cache search
[11:37] <tyme-> sudo apt-cache search package
[11:37] <Kiongku> !samba
[11:37] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:37] <mnoir> s34n: use synaptic
[11:37] <s34n> http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php claims mythtc is available through univers/multiverse, but I don't see it
[11:37] <fritsch> Tann: same location as before
[11:37] <bds> Don't have a macbook yet but am thinking of it
[11:37] <fritsch> Tann: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:38] <bds> Not sure if I would use OSX
[11:38] <Tann> ok
[11:38] <VerdRousseau> Is it possible network manager doesnt support my realtek card?
[11:38] <ianthepetrock> quick everyone, digg this article on digg.com! :D http://digg.com/apple/Microsoft_vs_The_World
[11:38] <fritsch> Tann: or directly, if you would alerady run an ubuntu, per sudo apt-get install network-manager
[11:38] <tyme-> s34n:  it isnt
[11:38] <Tann> fritsch: which one do i need to download
[11:38] <mwe> I don't use samba to connect to my windows machine. just smg:/
[11:39] <Q_Continuum> bds: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Ubuntu+macbook - looks like a few people have.
[11:39] <mwe> smb:/ *
[11:39] <LeeJunFan> hrm, no matter what I do I can't linux to burn a CD that DOS can read the contents of. Anyone else having problems like that from mkisofs? I can get a dir listing but I can't cd, nor can attrib see any files.
[11:39] <fritsch> Tann: you have a ubuntu cd handy?
[11:39] <adam_> I get this message: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: The resource is busy or not .
[11:39] <fritsch> Tann: then just issue: sudo apt-get install network-manager from your terminal
[11:39] <MuffY> i seem to be unable to change my screen resolution higher than 1024x768, while i've had 1280x1024 for about a month on windows
[11:39] <Tann> yes
[11:39] <Tann> ok
[11:39] <jasin> i'm back :)
[11:39] <foobar^> where the hell is grub.conf? :p
[11:39] <arrenlex> !fixres | MuffY
[11:39] <ubotu> MuffY: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:40] <hjmills> !java
[11:40] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:40] <bds> Q_Continuum: Heh, I have surfed a few of the sites but was curious if anyone here had first hand experience
[11:40] <eztk> locate gub.conf
[11:40] <bds> Q_Continuum: thanks though, :)
[11:40] <Q_Continuum> I haven't but am considering it
[11:40] <MuffY> ty arrenlex =D
[11:40] <AidanL> BHSPitLappy: What do I do next?
[11:40] <eztk> grub even
[11:40] <jasin> !xserver
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <eztk> although I cant see it here.. lol
[11:40] <foobar^> eztk: no match :((
[11:40] <mwe> !xserver-xorg
[11:40] <foobar^> # locate grub.conf
[11:40] <foobar^> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10/debian/examples/kpkg_grub.conf
[11:40] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 584 kB
[11:40] <eztk> probably means it doesn't exist I guess
[11:40] <bds> Q_Continuum: I need a new computer and don't see myself getting a desktop
[11:40] <jasin> that bot is not to smart
[11:40] <tyme-> @
[11:40] <eztk> it can find xorg.conf without problems
[11:40] <foobar^> well, how do I change the grub boot order configuration then?
[11:41] <eztk> !grub
[11:41] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:41] <mnoir> foobar - go to /boot/grub
[11:41] <foobar^> mnoir: yeah I there
[11:41] <adam_> can anyone point me in the right direction for ubuntu audio help?
[11:41] <Q_Continuum> bds: Same, I have a desktop, but its ever changing for testing hardware - and my current laptop is on its way out, going to get no lemon'ed soon
[11:41] <mnoir> look for menu.lst
[11:41] <jasin> its grub.lst in ubuntu not grub.conf and its located in /boot/grub/
[11:41] <eztk> !alsa
[11:41] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[11:41] <foobar^> jasin: ah cool, that's all I need to know :)
[11:41] <mwe> adam_: #ubuntu is a good place to get help with that ;)
[11:41] <foobar^> thanx, dewd
[11:41] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, push ALT+F2, and run nm-applet using it
[11:42] <jasin> welcome :)
[11:42] <ThugRen> Hello, Hey I did the Sudo -i and can't seem to get back into my ubuntu now.
[11:42] <ThugRen> :(
[11:42] <jasin> !grub
[11:42] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:42] <lipe_> i need some help to install QT 4.1.4 with an archive .tar.gz !!!! please !!!!
[11:42] <adam_> thx... the problem is that I don't see my lexicon omega in the options, only my onboard intel card
[11:42] <mnoir> jasin: there is no such file in a normal /boot/grub
[11:42] <AidanL> BHSPitLappy: The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources. It cannot continue.
[11:42] <ThugRen> So how Do I fix it?
[11:42] <AidanL> I had a problem with one of the packages.
[11:42] <pianoboy3333> What does depmod -a do?
[11:43] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, screw the required resources! I give up!
[11:43] <lipe_> i need some help to install QT 4.1.4 with an archive .tar.gz !!!! please !!!!
[11:43] <AidanL> Ok, thanks for your help anyway :)
[11:43] <mnoir> pianoboy3333: man depmod should tell you
[11:43] <jasin> thats because the file is not grub its menu.lst
[11:43] <poraki_poralli> can i do a dd image to an unbuntu installation to migrate to a different computer?
[11:43] <mnoir> jasin:  :) like i had said
[11:43] <mwe> lipe_: you can't expect random .tar.gz binaries to work in ubuntu
[11:43] <AidanL> Could someone help me to get ndiswrapper working properly so that I can get my wireless working?
[11:43] <bds> ThugRen: What do you mean you 'did the sudo' I missed the first part of your question
[11:44] <mwe> lipe_: you need to know what you're doing or install an ubuntu .deb
[11:44] <ThugRen> bds, I was try to enable my root user and I didn't seem to enable it.
[11:44] <jasin> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:44] <pike_> poraki_poralli: you might need to edit /etc/fstab if # hard drives is diff i guess but should work ok
[11:44] <adam_> mwe: thats what I was hoping... I'll have a look at some links and see what I can do.
[11:45] <mnoir> lipe_: if all you have is a tarfile then install is running tar on it
[11:45] <bds> ThugRen: Ah, sorry I have not enabled the root user as I have been sticking to sudo :(
[11:45] <Madpilot> ThugRen, you don't really need an active root user in Ubuntu... it's set up to run from sudo instead
[11:45] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, it -might- help to log off and/or reboot at this point.  Can't promise anything, though
[11:45] <jasin> thats where it is, if its not there on your system I dont know what to tell you but thats the default location in eddgy
[11:45] <mnoir> !root | ThugRen
[11:45] <ubotu> ThugRen: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:45] <bds> ThugRen: Did you say you cannot get into your machine now?
[11:45] <AidanL> BHS: I will try that.
[11:45] <lipe_> mnoir: but i need some help, after the ./configure make and make install
[11:45] <high_rogue_speed> i have a question will 6.06 work on an old laptop that wont run anything better than win98?
[11:45] <mnoir> lipe_: that happens?
[11:45] <AidanL> BHSPitLappy: Would it have made any difference of wpagui wouldn't install?
[11:45] <s34n> tyme-: is it available from a convenient repo?
[11:46] <binarydigit> high_rogue_speed: use the livecd and find out
[11:46] <lipe_> mnoir: 'cause i need to know if i need to put some PATH ...
[11:46] <mwe> adam_: people are usually helpful in here. crimsun is _the_ sound guru. I don't think he's around right now though
[11:46] <lipe_> mnoir: or something like that ...
[11:46] <pike_> high_rogue_speed: xubuntu mightbe a better idea than ubuntu(gnome)
[11:46] <tyme-> s34n:  i don't know, i just did apt-cache search for you
[11:46] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, not really
[11:46] <mnoir> lipe_: did you use sudo for the make install?
[11:46] <AidanL> Ok.
[11:46] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, that one wasn't tied in with the others
[11:46] <crimsun> adam_, hi
[11:46] <lipe_> mnoir: yes
[11:46] <AidanL> I see.
[11:47] <mnoir> lipe_: so the question is?
[11:47] <jasin> Even the ubuntu guide says its located in /boot/grub/
[11:47] <jasin> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[11:47] <adam_> crimsun! Great, some help. I am trying to get a lexicon omega working on a p4, asus motherboard (p5p800). Connected to this computer through xdmcp... any tips?
[11:47] <lipe_> mnoir: after "make install" what should I do ??
[11:48] <mnoir> lipe_: use it  :)
[11:48] <jasin> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:48] <arrenlex> !compile | lipe_
[11:48] <ubotu> lipe_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:48] <AidanL> BHSPitLappy: It didn't work. Thanks all the same.
[11:48] <mnoir> !qt
[11:48] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[11:48] <adam_> the computers are right next to eacothe, so I don't expect the sound to come from my laptop....
[11:49] <jasin> !compile | kernel
[11:49] <lipe_> ubotu: thx u very much !!
[11:49] <ubotu> kernel: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:49] <jasin> lol
[11:49] <mnoir> lipe_: qt is a library - it doesn't do anything useful by itself
[11:49] <crimsun> adam_, what features aren't working? snd-usb-audio should be able to drive the -basic- inputs/outputs, but you'll need quirks added for the remaining additional ones
[11:49] <jasin> !packages
[11:49] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[11:49] <mnoir> sheesh - i do the work, ubotu get the thanks :)
[11:49] <lipe_>  mnoir: hummm
[11:50] <arrenlex> !botsnack
[11:50] <coreymon77> hi guys
[11:50] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:50] <jasin> Even the ubuntu guide says its located in /boot/grub/
[11:50] <jasin> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[11:50] <pipas> does anyone knows why koules does not RUN on PIII 1000 ATI16?
[11:50] <mdke_> hi there. What's the best way to use a signature on emails with thunderbird? I've looked around and it seems like I need to put it in a separate file??
[11:50] <MuffY> there is one thing i can say about linux now, afte having used it for a few hours
[11:50] <MuffY> it sure is more fun to use than windows
[11:51] <binarydigit> mdke_: this isnt the thunderbird channel
[11:51] <mdke_> binarydigit: I'm aware of that
[11:51] <coreymon77> is there a wirelss assistant program (like the one for kubuntu) for ubuntu?
[11:51] <MuffY> and you can edit anything =D
[11:51] <mwe> MuffY: completely different though
[11:51] <mdke_> binarydigit: do you deny assistance to people who use Ubuntu on the basis that this isn't the $program channel? if so, no one would get any help
[11:51] <MuffY> ofc
[11:51] <MuffY> but i like it
[11:51] <jasin> corey, yes, gtkwifi
[11:52] <adam_> crumsun: that's pretty much all I need right now. I have two outs and two ins by th look of things. snd_usb_audio is loaded and all, I can change in system preferences, sound to my omega and usb devices but the good old volume control in the panel doesn't find it?!?! Neither does alsamixer or alsamixer gnome. Test sounds worked, but now fail giving me this message:audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudio
[11:52] <adam_> sink: Resource busy or not available..
[11:52] <bobbyd> hi
[11:52] <arrenlex> !hi
[11:52] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:52] <AidanL> Could someone please help me to install my wireless USB adaptor.
[11:52] <jasin> http://gtkwifi.sourceforge.net/
[11:52] <LinTux> My screen res in Kubuntu has suddenly gone to 640x480 and it wont let me change it any ideas?
[11:52] <crimsun> adam_, ``asoundconf list'' in a Terminal
[11:52] <arrenlex> !fixres | LinTux
[11:52] <ubotu> LinTux: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:52] <Slart> !codecs
[11:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:52] <mwe> MuffY: The biggest downsid IMO is most commercial software/hardware vendors don't give a damn about linux
[11:52] <binarydigit> mdke_: you are asking a program specific question , you would proably have better luck in a place that is geared towards it, its not like you are asking a general ubuntu question
[11:53] <binarydigit> but shoot yourself
[11:53] <arrenlex> !coc | binarydigit
[11:53] <ubotu> binarydigit: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[11:53] <poraki_poralli> Joder
[11:53] <bobbyd> I seem to have screwed something up with my apt setup. when I do "apt-cache search myth" on edgy with all repos. enabled and updated I don't see mythtv
[11:53] <pike_> LinTux: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  then once done alt-ctrl-bkspace
[11:53] <poraki_poralli> espero q dd le de caa...
[11:53] <mwe> !es
[11:53] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:53] <MuffY> mwe: of course they don't it's quite hard to actually sell anything proprietary (did i spell that right) for linux
[11:53] <bobbyd> how could I go about fixing this?
[11:53] <poraki_poralli> es q tengo kemao el cargador de mi antiguo portatil xD
[11:53] <mdke_> binarydigit: charming. This is a help channel for users of Ubuntu, let's hope someone else uses thunderbird here
[11:53] <MuffY> especially if you're a small company
[11:53] <poraki_poralli> lo tengo q bajar a cargar al coche si no me da tiempo en lo q le dura a bateria...
[11:53] <adam_> crimsun : there I see my omega...
[11:53] <arrenlex> !mythtv | bobbyd
[11:53] <ubotu> bobbyd: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[11:54] <crimsun> adam_, I need the output from that command
[11:54] <mwe> MuffY: I know. it's not because of the OS though. it's because linux is not so common
[11:54] <adam_> ICH5, Omega, UART
[11:54] <jasin>  !mythtv | bobbyd
[11:54] <ubotu> bobbyd: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[11:54] <MuffY> also true
[11:54] <MuffY> but what about the GNU license things
[11:54] <jasin> !gnu
[11:55] <ubotu> G(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org
[11:55] <waterbear> !gpl
[11:55] <ubotu> gpl is the GNU General Public License. See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
[11:55] <mwe> MuffY: you can sell closed source commercial software for linux if you like
[11:55] <jasin> lol
[11:55] <crimsun> adam_, ``grep defaults.pcm.card ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf''
[11:55] <tyme-> !xgl
[11:55] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:55] <arrenlex> Ubotu is getting a workout today.
[11:55] <jasin> that bot is busy tonight lol
[11:55] <MuffY> i know, but for some reason most people get the free software
[11:55] <MuffY> i wonder why
[11:55] <binarydigit> arrenlex: has to get in shape for the new year
[11:55] <ikonia> I did an update on my laptop from 6.10 to Edgy. After that update my screen savers don't kick in and my "hover" preview of say an audio file doesn't work
[11:56] <MuffY> ;)
[11:56] <ikonia> is this a common thing
[11:56] <sharp15> ok. i'm confused.  i know ubuntu is gnome based, but i installed kde.  is there a reason that would mess with sshd and proftpd?
[11:56] <mwe> MuffY: heh
[11:56] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, oh, sorry to hear that.  I didn't even realize it was USB
[11:56] <AidanL> Yeah it is...
[11:56] <pipas> high rogue use alternate cd and then use ice, it will run great
[11:56] <arrenlex> sharp15: No.
[11:56] <Tann> fritsch: network manager won't install
[11:56] <pike_> bobbyd: package: mythtv is in multiverse repo
[11:56] <mnoir> sharp15: no
[11:56] <mwe> MuffY: maybe I'd by something if anything was available ;)
[11:56] <hjmills> how do i list the size of all the images in a folder in a list?
[11:56] <AidanL> I am guessing it is a bad thing.
[11:56] <adam_> !defaults.pcm.card Omega
[11:56] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, type "ifconfig" in a  terminal
[11:56] <mnoir> sharp15: and ubuntu is debian based, using the gnome window manager, among others :)
[11:57] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, let's see if ndiswrapper created any interfaces for it
[11:57] <MuffY> mwe: i mean, if you're just a desktop user there's not really a point in buying things that might be a bit better than the free ones, but which new features you're not going to use anyway
[11:57] <jasin> mwe, what you shoping for? hehe
[11:57] <crimsun> adam_, and is ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav'' audible?
[11:57] <sharp15> mnoir: that's what i meant.
[11:57] <cntb> where in kUbuntu can I tune current color depth ?
[11:57] <bds> About USD $2000
[11:57] <mwe> MuffY: I use linux only for my laptop but I keep windows on the desktop PC so I can play my favorite games
[11:57] <mnoir> sharp15: so what is sshd doing (or not) :}
[11:57] <binarydigit> hjmills: just the size or would using 'ls -la' do?
[11:57] <_Snatch_> can anybody help Tann to connect by wireless
[11:57] <Slart> hjmills: take some imagemagick.. add some bash magic and you're done =)
[11:57] <LinTux> Ubotu: could you give me the command again to put into console as my system crashed
[11:57] <AidanL> BHSPitLappy: There is eth0 and some writing and Lo with some writing. There are no bytes on the eth0 however there is a small amount of packets and bytes.
[11:58] <mwe> MuffY: there is no good alternative for my favorite games. if you're satisfied with frozen-bubble you'll be ok though
[11:58] <sharp15> mnoir: failing before connection attempt.  may have something to do with xinetd.
[11:58] <AidanL> There is a small amount of packets and bytes on the Lo one - BHSPITLAPPY
[11:58] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, try "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" and then try again
[11:58] <pike_> cntb: for kde questions might get better answers '/join kubuntu' there
[11:58] <MuffY> mwe: yeah, i read gaming and linux don't go together (damn game developers), except if you have linux on your xbox :P
[11:58] <Slart> hjmills: there are probably easier ways though.. but I'm guessing that will work
[11:58] <mnoir> sharp15: maybe - log messages?
[11:58] <mwe> MuffY: right
[11:58] <Tann> _Snatch_: fritsch was helping me
[11:58] <_Snatch_> can anybody help Tann to connect by wireless
[11:58] <BHSPitLappy> AidanL, eth0 is probably your ethernet, and lo is just loopback- your machine
[11:58] <AidanL> BHSPitLappy: Fatal Error
[11:58] <AidanL> I see.
[11:58] <mnoir> sharp15: sshd is usually rock solid
[11:58] <adam_> aplay: main:547: problem opening sound, resource or device busy
[11:58] <mwe> MuffY: a few games work
[11:58] <_Snatch_> good
[11:58] <MuffY> mwe: i'm not really a gamer anyway, and i've got enough entertainment with my Wii anyway ;)
[11:58] <kyncani> !ubotu | LinTux
[11:58] <ubotu> LinTux: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:58] <Tann> HELP
[11:58] <sharp15> mnoir: it's not being run by xinetd, but inetd has thrown a huge number of errors.
[11:58] <jasin> You can game on linux
[11:58] <crimsun> adam_, right, so you do need a quirk
[11:59] <jasin> supertux rocks :p
[11:59] <adam_> crimsun, doing some transalting from swedish on those errors---
[11:59] <hjmills> binarydigit: sorry - i meant the width and height
[11:59] <binarydigit> !fixres | LinTux
[11:59] <ubotu> LinTux: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:59] <mnoir> sharp15: oic :(
[11:59] <Tann> HELP
[11:59] <adam_> whats a quirk?
[11:59] <LinTux> my video has changed to 640x480 in Kubuntu and it will not let me change it, any ideas
[11:59] <hjmills> Slart: any idea what part of imagemagic?
[11:59] <crimsun> adam_, please file a bug against linux-source-2.6.17, attaching the output from ``lsusb -v''
[11:59] <arrenlex> LinTux: You were answred.
[11:59] <mwe> MuffY: then you wont miss anything. I'm not much of a gamer either except for a week a few times a year
[11:59] <arrenlex> answered **
[11:59] <jasin> !fixres | LinTux
[11:59] <ubotu> LinTux: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:59] <_Snatch_> Tann: try wlan0 connection
[11:59] <LinTux> I know I had a system crash, sorry m8
[11:59] <crimsun> adam_, the Omega is not supported in its current configuration; it'll need to be added to the source code.
[11:59] <jasin> !fixres | LinTux
[11:59] <bobbyd> pike_: I have multiverse enabled, but it doesn't show up :(
[11:59] <Tann> it isn't setup yet
[12:00] <MuffY> mwe: explain? you get a game and play it for a week straight until you've beat it?
[12:00] <crimsun> adam_, after you've filed the bug, please tell me the bug #
[12:00] <Slart> hjmills: I'm looking.. I'll give it a try.. see if I can make it work.. you wanted a list with "filename xsize ysize" or something like that?
[12:00] <adam_> crimsun: sorry about the french.....BUGGER
[12:00] <Tann> _Snatch_: how do i try wlan0?
[12:00] <jasin> mwe is a hard core gammer :p
[12:00] <LinTux> jasin tell me what to put in console to try fixres
[12:00] <MuffY> he is?
[12:00] <pike_> bobbyd: you said 'sudo apt-get update' showed no errors?
[12:00] <AidanL> BHSPitLappy: When I type sudo modprobe ndiswrapper the fatal error I receive is : /lib/modules/2.6.17.10-generic/kernel/drivers/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko : invalid argument.
[12:00] <sharp15> mnoir: either way. i can't find error messages from either sshd or proftpd.  both init scripts print "Starting service   [fail] "
[12:00] <_Snatch_> dunno
[12:00] <MuffY> i challenge him for a game of:....
[12:00] <mwe> MuffY: something like that. for example I had a week I didn't know what to do and played hitman bloddmoney
[12:00] <MuffY> PONG!
[12:00] <_Snatch_> look for a wireless assistant
[12:00] <arrenlex> LinTux: Go to http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto and follow the guide.
[12:01] <MuffY> |   .
[12:01] <adam_> ok, I'll get to that, but in the meantime, maybe you could help me out with my onboard card then.....?
[12:01] <mwe> he
[12:01] <MuffY> pong
[12:01] <mwe> yeah ;)
[12:01] <jasin> lintux, To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:01] <mnoir> sharp15: possible problem in the conf file - it sounds like to me
[12:01] <Tann> I don't have it