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goodthingnjee: kdesu when using sudo on launching GUI's is better for what i read12:13
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boblenyThats not good!12:14
MidMarkhi guys, last days I was trying to configure frequencies for a 15" monitor12:14
njeegoodthing: you're right, sudo will mess with the file permission proterties I think, but in this case its already all set to root so I don't think it would make any difference, right?12:14
cntbsudo apt-get install planetpenguin-racer12:15
MidMarkthe problem is: every range I put (also the right one found on internet) results in the same interlaced screen12:15
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MidMarkI've just set the HorizSync and the VertRefresh in xorg.conf ... what can be wrong?12:15
MidMarkany idea?12:16
goodthingnjee: no it was something with failing to re-login as sudo for the comand after that point, kwrite might just work though with sudo. I am not sure how many problems are with it to be honest.12:16
skchanghow can i start modules at system start?12:16
goodthing*command12:16
skchangautomatic modprobe...12:16
njeegoodthing: oh ok, thanks for the advice....everyone listen to goodthing :)12:17
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MidMarkis there a way to configure the monitor under kubuntu without GUI?12:17
goodthingi wouldn't advise on that ;)12:17
_Snatch_hey dudes12:18
_Snatch_check this out12:18
_Snatch_type: ubotu is a bot12:19
_Snatch_and ubotu says:12:19
_Snatch_and ubotu says:12:19
notechMidMark: using the resolution and refresh rates specified by your monitor docs?12:19
_Snatch_ubotu is a bot12:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:19
noiesmo_Snatch_, stop playing with the bot12:19
_Snatch_!!!!!!!!!!12:19
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_Snatch_xDDDDDD12:19
RogueThunderExcuse me, anyone here compitent in getting a windows computer to share its internet connection with a box running kubuntu... im lost... on both sides >.<12:20
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noiesmoRogueThunder, install firestarter its a gui that will allow you to share internet connection on ubuntu12:21
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noiesmo!firestarter | RogueThunder12:21
ubotuRogueThunder: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).12:21
MidMarknotech: I used it, but nothing!12:21
MidMarkI've a nec multisync m500 and I've set:12:21
RogueThunder>.< yeah, see, its this poor windows box that has the inet (over wireless)12:22
MidMarkHorizSync 31-69 and VertRefresh 55-12012:22
RogueThunderStill gona need firestarter?12:22
MidMarkaccordingly to: http://www.monitorworld.com/Monitors/nec/multisyncm500.html12:22
noiesmoRogueThunder, On the M$ box open control panel goto network options right click on the adaptor then from there you should be able to find internet connection sharing not sure which tab of the top12:23
RogueThunder>.< Yeah, i found that, it complained about a ton of things when i tried that infortunately...12:23
MidMarknotech: is it correct?12:23
notechMidMark: sounds right then, assuming you restarted X12:23
RogueThunderMostly, i dont think the 2 are networked together right atm, actualy im damn sure of it.12:24
MidMarknotech: ctrl+backspace and startx->still interlaced12:24
noiesmoRogueThunder, :(12:24
notechMidMark: sorry, no idea. maybe it's something with the driver, or monitor failing?12:25
RogueThundernoiesmo, im using a crossover cable, and, atm neither computer is setting up lan ips for them, so... windows is annoyed that it doesnt have a proper ip...12:25
MidMarknotech: no idea, so I came here :)12:25
hepmehow can i configure katapult?12:25
MidMarknotech: thanx anyway12:26
notechRogueThunder: not XP Home i hope12:26
RogueThundernoiesmo, atleast, thats what the error windows ics sounds like its saying.12:26
RogueThundernotech: hahaha, no, pro.12:26
niko_hello i want to know how to configure the KDE login screen with kdmtheme, i installed it but i don't see it anywhere12:26
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noiesmoRogueThunder, adsl or cable12:27
notechRogueThunder: win should be offering dhcp to linux12:27
boblenyIs there a LAMP for Kubuntu?12:27
noiesmo!lamp | bobleny12:28
ubotubobleny: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)12:28
RogueThunderno-s: Cable over wireless network, win... seems to be demanding it from the linux box atm... >.<12:28
_Snatch_!ogame12:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ogame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:28
_Snatch_dudes, do not miss this: httpogame12:28
notechthen windows is misconfigured for connection sharing12:28
_Snatch_dudes, do not miss this: http://www.ogame.org12:28
RogueThunderLovely, now ive gota track someone down who has a clue about that >.<12:29
_Snatch_dudes, do not miss this: http://www.ogame.org12:30
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RogueThunder... oh... that explains everything >.< ouch12:31
RogueThunder^.^ windows is stupid.12:31
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coreymon77guys12:35
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coreymon77does iwconfig work with wpa-psk keys?12:35
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cntbCtrl Alt + ( X resol ) does not work .what to do ?12:36
coreymon77guys?12:36
cntbCtrl Alt + ( X resol ) does not work .what to do ?12:36
_Snatch_coreymon77: i think it does12:36
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_Snatch_coreymon77 but im not sure12:37
coreymon77umm12:37
coreymon77he entered the iwconfig just like normal12:37
coreymon77and it said that his key was not a valid argument12:38
_Snatch_Does AnYoNe Know fast and gOoD p2p softwAre for kubuntu?????????12:38
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cntbCtrl Alt + ( X resol ) does not work .what to do ?12:39
cntb_Snatch_:  amule12:39
_Snatch_cntb: aMule is slow12:40
cntb_Snatch_:  sudo apt-get install amule12:40
notechcntb: should probably start by looking at your xorg.conf to verify it has multiple resolutions defined12:40
_Snatch_i have amule12:40
_Snatch_but its soooooooooo slow12:40
cntbemule network maybe slow12:40
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_Snatch_no its not that12:41
cntbtyvm notech12:41
cntbit has12:41
cntbwill pastebin it12:41
notechtry the other ctrl+alt maybe?12:41
karmikazeanyone here use beryl and notice it kicks adept manager out of the task bar12:41
_Snatch_cntb: amule goes a 1.0 kb/s12:41
_Snatch_+ it only downloads 1 thing at a time12:42
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cntbCtrl Alt + ( X resol ) does not work .what to do ?12:44
cntbhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/179/ there yu have my xorg.conf12:44
cntbnotech: ?12:44
coreymon77guys, how do you use iwconfig with wpa-psk keys12:45
cntb_Snatch_:  how about torrents ?12:45
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cntb Ctrl Alt + ( X resol ) does not work .what to do ?12:45
cntb[01:44]  <cntb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/179/ there yu have my xorg.conf12:45
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notechcntb: hope you missed part of it cuz its set for depth 24 and you only show them defined up to 1612:46
_Snatch_cntb: tried it, works better than amule, but still doesn't meet my needs...12:47
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_Snatch_cntb: anyhow i also installed limewire for linux, but it doesnt run12:48
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arrenlexI can't change the language in KDE 3.5.5. I have kde-i18n-engb installed, but if I try to add British in kcontrol>country\region&language, nothing happens. It appears in the list, but clicking on it has no effect. How can I fix this?12:52
cntbarrenlex: could restart help you ?12:53
arrenlexThe same for other languages, like Russian (kde-i18n-ru). Appears in kcontrol, nothing happens if you click i.12:53
arrenlext.12:53
arrenlexcntb: Tried it.12:54
arrenlexcntb: Tried restarting KDM, tried restarting X, tried restarting the computer, in that order.12:54
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hepmelimewire for linux? why not amule01:00
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xkhing Anyone here get this error before " the process for the file protocol died unexpectedly?" while booting up KUBUNTU live cd?01:02
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premierhello01:09
premierI have a problem with k3b cd burner01:09
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premiermatthew, can you help?01:10
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intelikeykpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server :101:13
intelikeyHawkwind: cannot connect to X server :101:13
intelikey?01:13
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intelikeyHawkwind that was a bad tab expantion01:14
intelikeysion01:14
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intelikey.kwin: cannot connect to X server :101:14
arrenlexIs there an X running at :1?01:15
intelikeywell the xserver is running01:15
arrenlexAt :0, yes.01:15
intelikeybut i don't want to connect there.   i want to connect a second session01:16
arrenlexYou only have one X running. How do you connect to a second?01:16
intelikeynormally something like    twm -display :1     :)01:17
arrenlexThat works? o_O01:17
intelikeyhow do you do it ?01:17
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arrenlexYou'd have to launch another X server running on :101:17
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qoshey guys ...01:18
qoscan somebody tell me how to add apps to something similar to windows autostart in kde?01:18
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noiesmoqos, use ~/.kde/Autostart01:19
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intelikeyarrenlex i hear you.  but i'm not convenced.01:19
qosnoiesmo, is there no other possibility?01:19
premierhey, whats the command line to change permisions?01:19
arrenlexintelikey: I just can't imagine how it would be possible to start a window manager on :1 if there's no X on :1.01:19
arrenlexpremier: chmod <permissions> <file>01:20
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holzmodemhi,i try to use konqueror to browse the www. but if i send a form, or click on a link, he always will save the page as an document, why?01:21
noiesmoqos, its all i do maybe otherway like rc.local but thats on system start01:21
soulriderdoes anyone here use a pppoe connection ?01:21
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ragnar_123hey guys!01:21
soulrideri have a strange problem, after being connected for a while, some apps acts as if iwere offline01:21
qosnoiesmo, thx. creating softlinks in the direactory or .desktop files?01:21
soulriderhi ragnar_12301:21
soulrideri have to reconnect for them to work01:22
noiesmoqos, normally just softlink or a little script01:22
premierIm trying to burn an iso using k3b and it keeps crashing.  About 10 secounds in, it says "Cdrecord has no permission to open the device.  You may use K3bsetup to solve this problem01:22
deb_noobcan anyone tell me what widget style kubuntu uses? under... kcontrol >> appearances & themes >> widget style01:22
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soulriderback01:23
noiesmopremier, add your user to the burning group you may need to add then set burning group on k3b01:23
draikI cannot enable my cdrom drive. My error message is "An error occurred while enabling /media/cdrom0. The system reported: mount: you must specify the filesystem type01:23
draikanybody have a clue?01:24
ragnar_123I did install the kubuntu-desktop yesterday, and tried kde for the most of today. However I think my computer seems to run slower with two desktop's, and I better like gnome. How do I uninstall the package, and all the packages which came included?01:24
deb_noobcan anyone tell me what widget style kubuntu uses? under... kcontrol >> appearances & themes >> widget style01:24
draikragnar_123: install gnome-desktop. AFAIK that should take care of it for you01:24
vulcaniusdraik you need to specify the file system when mounting CDs01:25
superjoeis there an easy to connect to a wireless router in kubuntu01:25
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vulcaniusdeb_noob: look in synaptics for Metapackages and remove the kubuntu one01:25
ragnar_123draik: thanks, shall I install it with apt-get, or aptitude?01:25
superjoeanyone I can't figure out how to connect to wireless network01:26
superjoecan anyone help?01:26
ragnar_123draik: no package named gnome-desktop, do you mean ubuntu-desktop?01:27
draikvulcanius: I did. I placed it as iso9660 - CD-ROM01:27
draikragnar_123: I would go with apt-get01:27
draikragnar_123: But that is just personal preference01:27
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draikragnar_123: Yes. Sorry01:27
ragnar_123draik: cool :D great community!01:28
draikvulcanius: Any clue about what else I might be doing wrong?01:28
draikragnar_123: You're welcome. Enjoy!01:28
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superjoeI can acces my wirelss router on my dual with xp but haven't a clue in kubuntu01:28
vulcaniusdraik: somehow your not setting the filesystem type correct01:29
ragnar_123draik: apt-get autoremove did the trick :D01:29
draikvulcanius: I have the following.... type: iso9660, Mount Point: /media/cdrom0,  Device: /dev/hdc01:29
ejmhow would I get dri going on a silicone video card?01:29
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draikvulcanius: I'm not sure what I'm skipping here01:29
ejmI'll have the model in a sec.01:29
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ejm86C32601:30
ejmit's a rather old video card.01:30
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draikI wonder if maybe I don't have the proper /dev/hd*01:31
vulcaniusdraik: that could be it01:31
draikHow do I check the hd* corresponding to my cdrom drive?01:32
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vulcaniusdraik: try doing "dmesg | grep cdrom" in a terminal01:32
PhinnForthow do i find out which program has openend a specific port on my machine?01:33
vulcaniusif that shows nothing then try "dmesg | grep CD" or "dmesg | grep DVD"01:33
PhinnForti just happened to do an nmap of my machine, and amidst all the normal ports, there was 54801:33
draikhmm01:33
felipe__Hi guys, I need some help wich apache/php5. When I try to open a php page the sistem ask to where to save the file or which program should open it. Don't know how to fix this....01:33
PhinnFort!php01:33
draikvulcanius: I have a few listings here and they all say the same thing... cdrom: open failed.01:33
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)01:33
PhinnFortfelipe__: you need to set up Apache to parse PHP instead of just sending them out01:33
drbreenanyone can tell me where to find builds (deb packages) of OLPC sugar for {k|x}ubuntu ? i have isdn and an 133mhz cpu so compiling is out.01:33
intelikeyvulcanius fuser ?01:34
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vulcaniusintelikey: eh?01:35
intelikeyooops    s/vulcanius/PhinnFort/01:35
draikvulcanius: It is hdc01:35
vulcaniuslol01:35
draikand that is how I have it pointed01:35
draikerrr... WHERE I have it pointed01:35
PhinnFortintelikey: hm?01:35
intelikeyscrolled just at the right time.    sorry.01:35
PhinnFort:P01:35
intelikey<PhinnFort> how do i find out which program has openend a specific port on my machine? <<<< fuser   ?01:35
PhinnFortah01:35
vulcaniusdraik open a terminal and just type "mount" and see what is listed in regards to the CD01:35
PhinnFortnice01:35
PhinnForttried lsof and netsta01:36
PhinnFortt01:36
intelikeylsof should be able to do that also01:36
intelikeyi'd have to man for the switches.   you can do that tho.01:36
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PhinnFortdoing it now, thanks01:37
draikvulcanius: Nothing here regarding my cdrom01:37
bLaZeDsudo lsof -i TCP:666701:37
bLaZeDweill show what is using said port01:37
vulcaniusdraik: then it's not mounted, in the same terminal do this.....01:38
PhinnFortbLaZeD: thanks01:38
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bLaZeDnp01:38
PhinnFortbut it's not estabelished, i'll just telnet it first01:38
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PhinnForti take it i switch 6667 for 54801:39
arkanabarI am hideously embarrassed.01:39
PhinnFortwelcome to the club01:39
vulcaniusdraik: "mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0"01:39
arkanabarI've just installed kubuntu, and I can't remember how to generate user accounts.01:39
PhinnFortbLaZeD: it's turning up blank, even when i've telnetted in01:39
draikvulcanius: mount: no medium found01:40
felipe__PhinnFort: When I installed at first everything worked all right, then I removed apache2 and after a while installed again and now I cant open php pages..01:40
vulcaniusdraik: um.... got a CD in the drive? lol01:40
draikyup01:40
PhinnFortbLaZeD: please ignore me, i thought i was root already01:40
PhinnFort;)01:40
draikwell just F me without lubricant.01:41
vulcaniusdraik: ?01:41
draikI **thought** the dvd was burned01:41
draikit's blank01:41
vulcaniushrm....01:41
PhinnFortfelipe__: please run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure apache" in a konsole and make sure PHP(4) is loaded01:42
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intelikeyvulcanius there is a data cd in  hdc ?01:42
felipe__PhinnFort: Ok01:42
intelikeyor draik  which ever is working on cdrom mounting01:43
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felipe__PhinnFort: It threw me back to the console...01:43
draikI just put the dvd that was in the laptop in my desktop and it has nothing on it01:43
draikintelikey: ^^01:43
vulcaniusdraik: was it blank in your laptop?01:43
PhinnFortfelipe__: i mean  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure apache2", sorry01:44
PhinnForti'm using apache1 here01:44
felipe__PhinnFort: actually thats what I did :)01:44
PhinnFortoh, ok01:44
draikvulcanius: wouldn't read on my laptop, desktop showed it as empty01:44
PhinnFortwhat did it say?01:44
vulcaniustry popping in a data CD or a music cd or something01:44
felipe__PhinnFort: nothing....01:45
intelikeycan't mount music cd's01:45
PhinnForthuh?01:45
felipe__PhinnFort: yup01:45
PhinnFortfelipe__: try "sudo -s" and then " "dpkg-reconfigure apache"01:45
arkanabarIs there somebody here who could help me complete my escape from Windows?01:45
PhinnFort201:45
PhinnFort:P01:45
vulcaniusoh how i forgot the small stuff01:45
PhinnFortarkanabar: Jesus01:45
vulcaniusno wonder coworkers hate me sometimes, heh01:45
intelikeythat's why i asked if it was data disk      can't mount cda01:45
vulcaniusintelikey: it's a dvd01:46
arkanabarYah, I have Kubuntu MOSTLY set up -- need to set up user accounts01:46
vulcaniusdraik: do "sudo modprobe loop"01:46
felipe__PhinnFort: nothing01:46
noiesmo!kusers01:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kusers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:46
intelikey<vulcanius> try popping in a data CD or a music cd or something <<<<<      yes i know.01:46
noiesmo!kuser01:46
PhinnFortfelipe__: "dpkg -l | grep apache2"01:46
ubotukuser: KDE user/group administration tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 230 kB, installed size 796 kB01:46
PhinnFortarkanabar: alt+f2, and type "kuser" and hit enter01:47
arkanabarone moment, please01:47
PhinnFortapt-get install kuser first01:47
PhinnFort:P01:47
PhinnFortthis looks darn cool: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaceBrowserLogin01:47
intelikeyo.O01:47
vulcanius...what am i thinking......01:47
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ypsilamoin01:48
draikvulcanius: Ok. Now what?01:48
PhinnForti won't dare think about it01:48
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intelikeyshakes01:48
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felipe__PhinnFort: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/181/01:48
ypsilahappy new year to all of you01:49
vulcaniusdraik: ignore that last thing I said, i was thinking about DVD iso for a second there.... anyways, put in a data CD and see if it automounts and if you can read it01:49
PhinnFortypsila: thank the same to you mkay?01:49
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PhinnFortah01:49
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PhinnFortwhat is it with netsplits and me?01:49
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draikvulcanius: 1s01:50
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ypsilafunny anyway01:50
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foobhow come the documentation says kubuntu comes with ksirc as the default irc client, but mine comes with konversation?01:50
vulcaniusZOMG, the mormons were right!!!01:50
PhinnFortfelipe__: "dpkg-reconfigure --force  apache"01:51
PhinnFortvulcanius: they're always right01:51
vulcaniuslol01:51
felipe__PhinnFort: ok01:51
PhinnFortthe world is sometimes wrong, but that's everyone else's problem01:51
intelikeyfoob  kubuntu comes with konversation    kde comes with kirc01:51
ypsilafoob: any client you prefer?01:51
PhinnFortksirc sucks01:51
intelikeyfoob what documentation ?01:51
draikvulcanius: Hmmm...01:51
PhinnFortkonversation pwnz big time, and they're even doing a major rewrite of it now, so we get scripting;)01:51
felipe__PhinnFort: nothing happens01:52
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Jucatodraik!!!!01:52
vulcaniusawesome, now we can be like those l33t MIRC dud3s!!!01:52
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draikCould not mount device. The reported error was: mount: only root can mount /dev/hdc on /media/cdrom01:52
Jucatohm... Konvi already has scripting... somewhat01:52
PhinnFortfelipe__: "dpkg-reconfigure --force --default-priority apache"01:52
PhinnFort?01:52
vulcaniusdraik: use "sudo"01:52
vulcaniusfollowed by the command01:52
PhinnFortJucato: i mean real scripting01:52
PhinnFortPython;)01:52
felipe__PhinnFort: nothing....01:53
vulcaniuswell there goes porting all those awesome MIRC scripts01:53
ypsilamirc *shiver*01:53
draikhello Jucato... It's been a while01:53
PhinnFortfelipe__: i really suck at debian-stuff... I'm a gentoo man in my heart;)01:53
felipe__PhinnFort: Ok thanks any way01:54
draikvulcanius: Will do01:54
PhinnFortfelipe__: what you need to do is enable PHP01:54
PhinnFortfelipe__: you can do it manually01:54
Jucatodraik: happy new year! :)01:54
PhinnForti'll see if i can dig up some tuts01:54
felipe__PhinnFort: how?01:54
arkanabarPhinn__:  doesn't seem to be working.  Is there a command line thingy I can try?01:54
vulcaniusypsila: oh come on, you know that every time i say MIRC it makes you want to touch yourself01:54
JucatoPhinnFort: is there such a thing as "fake" scripting? :)01:54
PhinnFortfelipe__: there's some ugly config files you need to edit01:54
ypsilavulcanius: pardon?01:54
PhinnFortJucato: the existing implementation?;)01:55
PhinnFortarkanabar: you need to install it first01:55
ypsilait's quite funny in here :-D01:55
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PhinnFortsearch for "kuser" in "Adept Manager" or add/remove programs, whatever;)01:55
intelikeyypsila at times....01:56
draikvulcanius: cannot mount01:56
JucatoPhinnFort: those are bash scripts. they're "real" scripts01:56
vulcaniusdraik: what was the error you received?01:56
ypsilaintelikey: I only compare to other kubuntu chans01:56
PhinnFortJucato: the code to get them integrated is rather ugly01:56
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PhinnFortfelipe__: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2693501:57
PhinnFortsomeone had the same problem as you01:57
michikann mir wer sagen welche windowmanager diese suche in den menues unterstuetzt wie es bei der suse ist?01:57
intelikeyarkanabar    did you   alt+f2   and type in  kuser   to see if it was installed ?01:57
JucatoPhinnFort: haven't seen the code. but that doesn't mean they're not real scripts, right? ;)01:57
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Jucato!de | michi01:57
ubotumichi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:57
felipe__PhinnFort: crap.....I tried removing all apache and php and reinstalling but nothing happened...01:57
PhinnFortJucato: well, the implementation isn't "real";)01:57
ypsilamichi: #kubuntu-de01:57
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ypsilaidiot01:58
JucatoPhinnFort: that's better (maybe) :)01:58
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PhinnFortSho_ is my hero01:58
Jucatoypsila: chill :)01:58
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intelikeyypsila what did it do ?01:58
intelikeyoh some other idiot .....    nm01:58
ypsilaJucato:I know him from the #kubunut-de which is my "home" ;-)01:58
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ypsilaintelikey: nothing, not even reading :-D01:59
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draikJucato, sorry. Long LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG lag01:59
draikvulcanius: mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only02:00
ypsilaJucato: you'll find out ;-)02:00
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PhinnFortfelipe__: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=132462&postcount=2 specifically02:01
PhinnFortlol02:01
PhinnFortwell, my home used to be #gentoo-amd64, until i switched to KUbuntu02:01
PhinnFort30s lag here now02:01
draikthat was without the iso966002:01
ypsilaPhinnFort: :-D see what I mean?02:01
IrIT^Hey. I've just installed Bluefish with apt-get, and everytime i save, it closes with a segmentation fault.02:01
Jucatofreenode...02:01
draikHappy New Year Jucato02:01
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IrIT^Any workaround for that?02:02
PhinnFortypsila: well, according to Konvi i have a 70s lag now02:02
intelikeyi can not get this stinking printer to work.    it's just a lexmark cj 1020   should work raw.  but i can't add a printer in kde....   and for some reason it doesn't seem to work from cli.....  </DIScusted>02:02
PhinnFortIrIT^: exorcism02:02
JucatoI have been residing in Kubuntu for half a year now... whether it's really my "home"... well I'll just have to wait02:02
arkanabarintelikey:  I did, -- Could not run.02:02
IrIT^PhinnFort: I'm not much into exorcism02:02
ypsilaJucato: I wasn't even 4 weeks on kubuntu-de when I was team02:03
PhinnFortuse lots of garlic02:03
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intelikeyarkanabar reason ?02:03
PhinnFortdoesn't do much, but it taste good02:03
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Jucatointelikey: add the printer as root, then as your normal user choose the new printer?02:03
JucatoPhinnFort: you're confusing exorcism with vampire slaying :)02:03
intelikeyarkanabar kdesu kuser02:03
PhinnFortJucato: nope, I just like to add garlic to anything i make02:03
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intelikeyJucato trying as root... can't add printer.   i click it   it times out.02:04
Jucatohm..02:04
PhinnFort:D02:04
arkanabarintelikey:  sorry, command not found02:04
JucatoPhinnFort: vampires must hate you02:04
prakare anyone familiar with the dialing procedure of minicom?02:04
Jucatoarkanabar: kdesu kcmshell userconfig02:04
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intelikeyarkanabar ah  ok.     what are you trying to do exactly ?02:04
PhinnFortwell, i that might explain why i haven't seen one yet02:04
Jucatoguys, kuser isn't installed in Kubuntu02:04
PhinnFortJucato: it darn well should be02:04
JucatoKubuntu uses kde-guidance, which uses userconfig02:05
PhinnFort"apt-get install kuser" everyone02:05
arkanabarTrying to create a user account02:05
JucatoPhinnFort: Kubuntu uses something different02:05
PhinnFort:P02:05
intelikeyJucato k    i've not got kubuntu  i've got kde so i didn't know.02:05
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Jucatoit doesn't need two user management GUIS02:05
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intelikeythanks for the heads up.02:05
PhinnFortintelikey: http://localhost:631/02:05
PhinnFortthere you can configure your printing all you want02:05
JucatoPhinnFort, intelikey: kuser isn't even installed by default in base KDE :P02:05
PhinnFortJucato: it is so02:06
PhinnFortat least in Gentoo02:06
Jucatohah02:06
PhinnFortand i think Gentoo use pretty pristine kde packages02:06
intelikeyarkanabar you can use   sudo adduser <name>   in the shell for that  if you don't find a gui way.02:06
felipe__PhinnFort: Im missing the php5.conf file in /ect/apache2/mods-enabled/02:06
JucatoI'm talking about kdebase here, PhinnFort02:06
ypsilahrhr michi changed to #kubuntu-de02:06
Jucatonot a KDE ebuild or metapackage02:06
PhinnFortfelipe__: you should link it from /etc/apache2/mods-available or something similar02:06
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PhinnFortJucato: Gentoo uses plain KDEBASE02:07
PhinnFortonly with security fixes02:07
intelikeyJucato i said i have kde.   not just kdebase     all i did is   apt-get install kde    and i have kuser      also of note this is dapper.02:07
PhinnFortmore or less02:07
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arkanabarintelikey:  the last one worked.  I'd actually asked for a command line utility but missed the response, if any02:07
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arkanabarAnyway, that done, I'm getting out of this oem install account.02:07
intelikeyarkanabar hehhe i missed the request.  sorry.02:07
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foobwhen i try to launch amule in kde it just disappears, doesnt laucnh, dont see it down in the task bar anywhere. any idea why?02:08
PhinnFortintelikey: do you manage to get the printer installed?02:08
intelikeyno02:08
prakare anyone familiar with the dialing procedure of minicom?02:08
PhinnForthttp://localhost:631/02:08
PhinnFortprak: no02:08
PhinnFortfoob: try to run it in Konsole02:08
PhinnFortit might say what is wrong02:08
intelikeylooks like it's gonna time out PhinnFort02:09
PhinnFortwaddayamean?02:09
foobwell when i run it in console it works, that's the thing02:09
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foobbut not from the menu02:09
intelikey<PhinnFort> http://localhost:631/  <<<<< looks like it's gonna time out.02:09
foobbut it does appear to launch it only to quickly close02:09
PhinnFortintelikey: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart02:09
felipe__PhinnFort: I did the linking. I'll restart to see if anything changes02:09
PhinnFortfelipe__: ok02:09
intelikeyi just started cupsys by hand....02:10
PhinnFortwhops02:10
PhinnFortwell, don't02:10
intelikeybut i'll restart it if you think it will help.02:10
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PhinnFortare you sure it read the configs from the right place?02:10
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intelikeyno i havn't don't anything to cupsys sense installing it....02:11
arkanabarYay!  Many thanks, all.02:11
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PhinnFortwell, i meant when you restarted it "by hand"02:11
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intelikeywhy would it not ?02:11
PhinnFortintelikey: have you tried doing it "System Settings"?02:11
PhinnFortintelikey: sometimes the init-scripts passes special flags, like port it listens to or config file to read02:12
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intelikeyPhinnFort kconfig > piriferals > printer > add > printer/class    times out.02:12
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felipe__PhinnFort: I restarted my pc and everything is working all right :?02:13
intelikeywell actualy there is no time limit.   it just sits there.02:13
PhinnFortfelipe__: hooray!02:13
crackcornin kubuntu when i send something to another desktop, it doesnt disapear off my current desktop taskbar, but in gnome it would. is there a place where i could configure it like that02:13
PhinnFortmerry new year and all that02:13
foobhappy futurism02:14
PhinnFortcrackcorn: yes02:14
felipe__PhinnFort: Not sure why the reinstallation forgot to do the linking tho the load and conf files...02:14
foobis there a good ncurses based mp3 player? maybe like a front end to mpg32102:14
felipe__PhinnFort: thanks for all the help :=)02:14
PhinnFortfelipe__: me neither, i thought the dpkg-system should handle that kind of stuff easily02:14
PhinnFortno problem at all02:14
crackcornah i found, thanks02:14
PhinnFortfoob: yes02:14
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PhinnFortyw;)02:14
foobphinn whats it calllllled? :)02:14
PhinnFortheh...02:14
Jucatohm...... kuser is part of the kdeadmin module, as far as KDE is concerned http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdeadmin/kuser/02:14
felipe__PhinnFort: Could it be a bug?02:15
PhinnFortyou ask tricky questions02:15
PhinnFortJucato: kdeadmin is pretty standard, afaic02:15
PhinnFortfelipe__: i don't think so02:15
JucatoPhinnFort: but not part of the kdebase module02:15
Jucatohttp://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase02:15
PhinnFortJucato: well, you need KDECORE if you want KDEBASE, afaik02:15
intelikeybut kde is a meta that pulls in most everything k02:16
sareein konsole how do i know if im root? i am using sudo in front of my command "sudo apt-get install w32 codecs"02:16
PhinnFortsaree: look for a hash mark02:16
JucatoPhinnFort: yep, but kdeadmin is still not part of kdecore02:16
PhinnFortif it's a $, you're not root02:16
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PhinnFortJucato: most of KUser is in kdecore02:16
PhinnFort:D02:16
sareei have no has just a $02:16
PhinnFortafaik02:16
PhinnFortsaree: then you're not root02:16
sareehow do i get root?02:17
PhinnFort# = root, $ = normal user02:17
PhinnFortsudo -s02:17
PhinnFortshould do it02:17
matthew_or sudo -i02:17
Jucatosaree: you don't need a root prompt to install things, that's what sudo is for02:17
Jucatosaree: but w32codecs are not in the repository, so it won't work02:17
sareekool thx02:17
PhinnFortor sudo su .02:17
PhinnFortor sudo su -02:17
PhinnFortwtf is mrtg?02:18
PhinnFort!mrtg02:18
ubotumrtg: multi router traffic grapher. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.14.3-1 (edgy), package size 503 kB, installed size 1300 kB02:18
felipe__PhinnFort: to which user should the files in www belong?02:18
arkanabarIs there some reason that surfing on Konqueror is 30s slower than Firefox in Win2kpro?  Or is that Verizon?02:18
sareeisnt w32 codecs the pkg for win media?\02:18
PhinnFortfelipe__: i think "apache"02:18
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felipe__PhinnFort: ok02:18
PhinnFortarkanabar: how 30s slower?02:18
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PhinnFortfelipe__: but i'm not very sure02:18
Jucatosaree: yes. but you need to download it manually. it's not available in Ubuntu's repositories for legal reasons02:18
PhinnFortit's a legal mess02:19
intelikeyhey i finally got an add printer screen.    but the two windows panes "manufacture" && "modle"  are both empty....   so how do i select a driver ?02:19
sareeisnt it in multuverse?\02:19
Jucatosaree: nope02:19
Jucato!w32codecs02:19
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sareehow do i get all my codecs then?02:19
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Jucatosaree: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs02:19
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arkanabarpages that load in under 3s thru Firefox under Win2k take 25s thru Konqueror under Kubuntu, over a verizon dsl connection02:20
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PhinnFortarkanabar: try in Opera02:20
PhinnFortalso, make sure you don't have anything else using your bandwidth02:20
arkanabarUh, you guys in Konversation02:21
arkanabarNot sure I have Opera02:21
PhinnForti'm heavy02:21
PhinnFortOpera pwns at speed02:21
flaccidis there any alternatives to gimp02:21
PhinnFortintelikey: have you uninstalled foomatic?02:21
PhinnFortflaccid: krita02:21
PhinnFort!krita02:21
ubotukrita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2463 kB, installed size 7768 kB02:21
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intelikeyfoomatic ?02:21
PhinnFortmuch more like photoshop than GIMP though02:21
intelikeyprobably02:21
felipe__PhinnFort: actually the user is www-data, now everything is working02:21
flaccidthanks PhinnFort02:22
PhinnFortfelipe__: good:D02:22
intelikeywell actually more like it was never installed.02:22
PhinnFortflaccid: yw;)02:22
PhinnFortintelikey: i think that foomatic has most of the printer drivers available02:22
Daisuke_Idoi would recommend gimpshop (a retooling of the gimp UI to make the learning curve a little less steep for photoshop users)02:22
PhinnFortthat's what i installed when i needed printing in gentoo02:22
Daisuke_Idoalthough, it *is* still the gimp02:22
PhinnFortDaisuke_Ido: still doesn't support all the stuff that Krita supports02:22
PhinnFortadvanced color management, etc.02:23
PhinnFortkrita is getting there fast;)02:23
Daisuke_Idoright02:23
Daisuke_Idolike i said, it's still the gimp, with a modified UI02:23
PhinnFortyeah02:23
intelikeyhmmmm /me does    tty23 [root@~]  urpmi printconf02:23
Daisuke_Idoand i haven't really used Krita that much yet.  apparently i should, though :)02:23
PhinnFort2s lag here now, according to konvi02:23
PhinnFort;)02:24
intelikeyit pulls in foomatic-db and friends02:24
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PhinnForti'm still not too familiar with Krita, so i tend to use Gimp if i need something quick02:24
intelikeyyeah while i'm installing from the net i'll lag like a big dog02:24
flaccidwell atm gimp is not filling bg color correctly02:24
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PhinnFortflaccid: try Krita and see how you like it02:25
flaccidPhinnFort: wtf, krita cannot do .gif ?02:25
PhinnForti thought so02:25
PhinnFortthe maintainer might have disabled it for some reason02:26
intelikeywhy would cupsys install without foomatic-db if it has to have it to config ?02:26
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PhinnFortit doesn't need it02:26
PhinnFortfoomatic just has a lot of drivers, but not all02:26
flaccidlinux is starting to be impracticle for me02:26
flaccidimpractical i mean02:26
PhinnFortwell, gif is very bad02:26
PhinnFortit sucks even02:27
PhinnForti don't think i have a .gif file02:27
flaccidindeed02:27
intelikeyimpartical too02:27
flaccidie6 doest not support transparent png...02:27
PhinnFortie6 is not very good either02:27
sareehow does enlightenment compare to KDE?02:27
PhinnFortand with a quick hack it supports it very well02:27
intelikeyi have lots of .tiff files02:27
PhinnFortsaree: it's incomparable02:27
flaccidPhinnFort: yes the mainstream populous like shite software02:27
PhinnForttif is okay02:27
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flaccidPhinnFort: the hack requires javascript02:28
PhinnFortbut i prefer png02:28
PhinnFortbut our printing company prefers tif02:28
PhinnFortflaccid: ?02:28
PhinnForti thought you just put a bg-color or something to it02:28
PhinnFortcss02:28
flaccidnope02:28
sareephinnfort in what way?02:28
flaccidcss != making transparent gifs work :)02:29
PhinnForttry to start somewhere02:29
PhinnForti just skimmed through Digg when i saw it02:29
PhinnFortdidn't read it02:29
PhinnFort;)02:29
flaccidbasically i need to change 2 pixels and gimp won't use FG color02:29
flaccidkrita doesn't support gif02:29
PhinnFortalso krita has much better support for big files, afaik02:29
intelikey.tiff is topigraphical maps that i have to use...  i could probably convert them to something else but tiff is supposed to be lossless  so...02:29
flaccidso basically linux sux today02:29
Jucatokrita doesn't support gif?02:29
flaccidJucato: doesn't appear so02:30
PhinnFortflaccid: try kpaint then02:30
flaccidok02:30
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PhinnForti thought you needed fancy filters and stuff02:30
Jucatohm.. that's quite.. unusual...02:30
PhinnFortkpaint is also part of "standard" kde02:30
flaccid!info kpaint02:30
ubotuPackage kpaint does not exist in any distro I know02:30
PhinnFort!kpaint02:30
flaccidhaha02:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kpaint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:30
PhinnFortfsck02:30
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flaccidhmm what package is kpaint in, PhinnFort02:31
intelikeyor xpaint02:31
flaccidok i'll try that02:31
PhinnFortkolourpaint i mean02:31
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PhinnFort!kolourpaint02:31
ubotukolourpaint: a simple paint program for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1041 kB, installed size 2348 kB02:31
PhinnFortfsck my memory;)02:31
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intelikeythere is an   tkpaint - Versatile bitmap/pixmap editing tool02:32
intelikeyalso02:32
PhinnForttk?02:32
flaccidok thanmks02:32
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PhinnFortstick to K-programs if you can;)02:32
intelikeyyeah i think that used to be kpaint PhinnFort02:32
PhinnFortmhm02:32
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intelikeyPhinnFort hehhe  i could say that about x<programs>  :)02:33
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Jucatoflaccid: might want to ask in #koffice about GIF support in Krita... but I think it does support GIF, but needs a backend program to do so02:33
PhinnFortor maybe the kubuntu maintainers disabled it02:34
PhinnFortsame reason mp3 isn't supported02:34
Jucatoyeah, something like that02:34
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flaccidhelps if the kprograms work02:34
PhinnFortalthough i thought the lzw patent had expired by now02:34
PhinnFortflaccid: kolourpaint works02:34
Jucatoas far as Krita itself is concerned, it advertises that it supports saving to GIF02:34
flaccidwhats the command to run it, PhinnFort02:34
PhinnFortkolourpaint02:35
intelikeyxman xpaint xbiff xmailbox...02:35
PhinnFortapt-get install kolourpaint first02:35
intelikeypsudo02:35
Jucatopsudo?02:35
Jucatois that something new?02:36
PhinnFort!psudo02:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about psudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:36
PhinnFort!xsudo02:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xsudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:36
flaccidPhinnFort: its installed kolourpaint binary if installed is not in path02:36
Jucato:P02:36
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PhinnFortmartin@tripleseven:~$ kolourpaint works02:37
soulrideryes02:37
soulriderit works02:37
soulrideri have it installed02:37
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PhinnFortalt+f2 kolourpaint02:37
intelikeyhmm  oh no it was a froidian spelling of sudo  :)02:37
PhinnFortfreudian?02:37
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PhinnFort;)02:38
intelikeyor him02:38
PhinnFortflaccid: k-menu -> graphics -> KolourPaint02:38
soulriderim SO bored02:38
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PhinnFortlearn a new programming language02:38
PhinnForti recommend brainf*ck02:38
soulrideri dont feel like doiong that today :P02:38
PhinnFort;)02:38
soulrideretf02:38
soulriderwtf*02:38
PhinnFortlisten to some good music02:39
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soulriderparents are sleeping :(02:39
PhinnFortmay i recommend Blue Foundation02:39
PhinnFortget some headphones02:39
PhinnFort;)02:39
intelikeyturn off the box and go out side ?02:39
PhinnFortor if you want free music, try machinae supremacy02:39
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PhinnFortintelikey: stupidest suggestion so far;)02:40
Jucatohm.. that is so weird...02:40
intelikeyty02:40
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Jucatonone of the KDE Apps have a save to GIF feature, but in Konqueror, I have a right-click -> Convert to -> GIF service menu02:40
Jucatointelikey: wasn't referring to you02:40
intelikey[Lag 43]     so don't expect a quick response.02:40
soulriderintelikey: no one goes aoutside :P02:40
lovlossAnyone know a duplicate detector like kleansweep that can actually show comparisons of image files it thinks are copies? :P02:41
intelikeyaout   lol02:41
PhinnForti know KolourPaint has Gif support02:41
PhinnForti've used it before under Gentoo02:41
soulriderPhinnFort: i think it supports png02:41
soulriderbrb02:41
lovlosskleansweep stinks02:41
PhinnForti suspect that the Kubuntu maint's haven't noticed that the patent has expired02:41
PhinnFortlovloss: how?02:41
boblenyWhat do I do if and when a program freezes?02:41
lovlosslovloss: It doesnt show you the image files02:41
intelikeykill it02:41
lovlossPhinnFort: that was to you lol02:42
ibbuse a terminal to kill02:42
PhinnFortbobleny: alt+f2 type xkill and hit enter02:42
PhinnFortthen click on the offending window02:42
JucatoPhinnFort: Ctrl+Alt+Esc does the same thing...02:42
Jucato(in KDE only)02:42
intelikeyor click the [X]  in the upper right corner repetedly02:42
PhinnFortor ctrl+esc to use kde thiny02:42
lovlosssomeone needs to make a pic organizer that helps you sort out copies.02:42
PhinnFortlovloss: try imgseek02:42
lovlosshmm02:42
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lovlossis it in the repo?02:43
Jucatolovloss: I think digikam has something like that02:43
PhinnFortlovloss: it compares them visually02:43
PhinnFort!imgseek02:43
ubotuimgseek: Image viewer and manager with content based query. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-1 (edgy), package size 279 kB, installed size 1356 kB02:43
PhinnFortit's KDE/Python based, afaik02:43
JucatoDigikam -> Tools -> Find Duplicate Images02:43
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JucatoI am not sure if that is part of digikam itself, or of kipi-plugins02:44
PhinnFortnow, for the advertisement round: FREE MP3's (or .ogg's if you prefer that): http://machinaesupremacy.com/webography.html02:44
lovloss:3 thanks so much guys.02:44
intelikeyto kill everything... !02:44
PhinnFortkillall -s KILL02:44
ypsilagood bye02:44
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PhinnFortJucato: prolly kipi02:44
lovlossany mp3zs of japanese rock there?02:44
PhinnFortgoombye ypsila02:44
PhinnFortlovloss: swedish SID-metal02:44
PhinnFort;)02:44
lovlossclose enough02:44
foobhow can i tell if my machine has a floating point unit?02:44
PhinnFortworld's only SID-metal band02:44
lovloss*bookmarks*02:45
lovloss:D02:45
PhinnFortfoob: more /proc/cpuinfo02:45
PhinnFort;)02:45
intelikeyfoob less /proc/cpuinfo   :)02:45
lovlossalways on the lookout for new kinds of music :302:45
PhinnFortlovloss: try loot, burn rape kill repeat02:45
PhinnFortthat's one of their best songs imho02:45
lovlosstry Dir en Grey02:45
PhinnFortor maybe Cryosleep02:45
PhinnFort?02:45
lovloss^_^ japanese metal band02:45
PhinnFortfoob: kinfocenter -> cpu02:46
PhinnFort;)02:46
intelikeylshw     (:02:46
lovlossthey are going on an american tour. i have tickets in atlanta for them02:46
PhinnFortthe most japanese music i have atm is Divinefire, a colab between a sweed and a japanese guy02:46
PhinnFortlovloss: lucky you;)02:46
lovlosscool :D02:46
lovlossI cant wait. sometimes he spits faux blood on the audience02:46
lovlosshmm its not streaming...02:47
boblenyYeah, It died, but why it freez???02:47
PhinnFortno, it's downloadable oggs02:47
PhinnFortlovloss: sounds like fun02:47
intelikey*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08179528 ***02:47
intelikeyUnable to read printer database.  Please ensure the "foomatic-db" package is02:47
intelikeyinstalled properly.02:47
lovlossshould still stream02:47
intelikeyjust before that....  Setting up foomatic-db (20060408-1ubuntu1) ...02:47
lovlossok listening02:48
PhinnForti was photographing at a show here in norway last summer, when one of the guys on stage suddenly started to spit blood on the audience02:48
PhinnFort;)02:48
lovlosssweet. we have like taste, you and I02:48
PhinnFortheh02:48
lovlossyou might enjoy Dir en Grey.02:48
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intelikeyso  "printconf"   is broken in ubuntu dapper.02:48
PhinnForti'll note them in my "basket";)02:48
lovloss^_^02:48
lovlossdont worry, its not "anime music" :P02:49
PhinnFortwhich song you listening to?02:49
PhinnFortheh, okay02:49
lovlossooh this reminds me of Nightwish!02:49
lovloss"loot burn rape kill repeat"02:49
michaelpohow to setup thunderbird so that when reply there will not be a > at the beginning of every line?02:49
PhinnFortnice02:49
crimsuntarot's much better than nightwish02:49
crimsun</offtopic>02:49
intelikeyor actually i guess it's  "foomatic-db"  that is hosed in ubutnu dapper   my bad.02:49
Jucatohm...02:49
PhinnFortMozart pwns tarot02:49
lovlossshould we talk about this in an offtipic channel? its not like much is going on here02:49
PhinnFort;)02:49
lovlossI really like this kind of music. Nightwish/Him/Tarot... dark melodic experimental stuff02:50
PhinnFortnice;)02:50
lovlossso they're instrumental?02:51
PhinnForthaven't listened much to tarot02:51
PhinnFortlovloss: no no02:51
PhinnFortjust have many instrumentals02:51
lovlossjust that song02:51
lovlossoh ok02:51
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lovlossdang i like them! ill buy an album :D02:51
PhinnFortthe vocals aren't the best, though;)02:51
PhinnFortlovloss: :P02:51
lovloss*listening to earthbound*02:51
lovlossor do they not have cds?02:52
PhinnFortyeah02:52
Lam_is there a way to get Amarok to embed the album covers downloaded from Amazon.com into the ID3 metadata tags in the mp3 files?02:52
PhinnFortthey're even signed with a label now02:52
lovlossi like to support good music02:52
PhinnFortLam_: prolly a script02:52
PhinnForti'm listening to the Battlestar Galactica Ses2 soundtrack now02:52
lovlossSame ethic that makes me donate to open source02:53
PhinnFort;)02:53
lovlossthe less something is forced on my wallet, the more likely i am to open it up02:53
PhinnFortgood coding, good musicianship02:53
PhinnFortsounds like a good philosophy02:53
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lovlossA common one among open source people i think. We have a realistic outlook on the word "free"02:53
JucatoPhinnFort: strange... digikam can save as GIF... but gwenview and krita can't... :O02:54
lovlossAnyway, thanks so much for showing them to me.02:54
PhinnFortJucato: probably different maintainers02:54
PhinnFortlovloss: no problem02:54
Jucatoyeah.... just strange...02:54
PhinnForti try to do some pr for them whenever i have the chance;)02:54
PhinnFortgood music needs to be spread02:54
lovlossIf you listen to Dir en Grey, check out the "Withering to Death" album. I think their new "Marrow of a Bone" is going to be extreeeemely heavy, and it may not be the best starting place02:55
PhinnFortwell, i like it a bit heavy;)02:55
boblenyAny one here know how to make the forward and back buttons on my mouse work?02:55
PhinnFortZao used to be one of my favourites02:55
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lovlossDo you have limits to heavy?02:56
PhinnFortwell, i don't listen to much grindcore02:56
PhinnFort;)02:56
lovlosswhat would you classify this as tp://youtube.com/watch?v=WfiGK1nWUig02:56
lovlosshttp://youtube.com/watch?v=WfiGK1nWUig02:56
PhinnFortone sec, need to fire up opera02:57
arkanabaroh, crap.  I think I failed to set up a root account when I had the chance....02:57
PhinnFortarkanabar: just sudo -s and passwd root02:57
intelikeylovloss as spam in this channel02:57
PhinnFort*s/and/or/02:57
lovloss:(02:57
lovlossk ill private02:57
PhinnFortintelikey as not important in this channel02:57
PhinnFort;)02:57
lovlosslol mean02:58
sareecan ubuntu play .avi without any codecs installed?02:58
intelikeyarkanabar ubuntu is not supposed to have a root passwd02:58
foobno02:58
lovlossi think it can. mpegs gave me problem02:58
Jucatosaree: no02:58
intelikey!sudo02:58
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:58
intelikeyarkanabar ^02:58
lovlosshow did the word "sudo" come about02:58
lovlossit sounds like ninja02:58
PhinnFortswitch user do02:58
PhinnFortsu came first afaik02:58
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sareewhat pkg i need to play em?02:58
intelikeyPhinnFort not super user do ... ?02:59
foob!restrictedformats02:59
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:59
PhinnFortintelikey: i don't think so, but i'm not sure02:59
foobread the section 'getting things working in a hurry' on that first link02:59
Jucatosaree: libxine-extracodecs from multiverse02:59
lovlossohhh02:59
boblenyAny one here know how to make the forward and back buttons on my mouse work?02:59
arkanabarI don't have the root privileges I think I'd need to install opera, then......02:59
arkanabarat least, as far as I can tell.02:59
intelikeysu = switch user      but i thought sudo = super user do      could be wrong.02:59
PhinnFortlovloss: that link wasn't too hard02:59
PhinnFortjust crappy vocals;)03:00
PhinnFortand drums03:00
lovloss"Agitated Screams of Maggots" is really wild. Not representative of their overall sound.03:00
sareethx Jucato03:00
foobsudo does mean 'super user do'03:00
lovlosshttp://youtube.com/watch?v=nQ2A4m45o2U03:00
intelikeyarkanabar the account you make when installing should have sudoers rights.03:00
lovlossi cant private :(03:00
Jucatoif sudo was taken from su, then, it should be "switch user do"03:00
PhinnFortnp03:00
intelikeysu - <that user>    and then do what's needed.03:00
Jucatoanyway, if you use "su" without any argument, it presumes you are switching to root user03:01
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lovlossKyo cant sing period. He never even took lessons. For some reason, thats considered one of the cool things about the band. He has no technical ability but he just doesnt care. He's so  confident lol03:01
PhinnFortflash crashed...03:01
lovlossits like a fan jumping on stage and knocking the singer over03:01
intelikeylovloss /msg nickserv help03:01
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Jucato!offtopic03:01
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:01
PhinnFortsounds nice;)03:01
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lovlossahhhh03:02
lovlossPhinnFort, ill also go to kubuntu-offtopic so we dont get booted03:02
PhinnFortmkay03:02
arkanabaryes, but that was oem, and the last thing I did while on as oem was run sudo oem-config-prepare which (according to documentation) removes the oem account.03:02
intelikeyarkanabar :)03:03
intelikeyhmmm reboot to single user mode  and add the user you want to be admin   to the admin group03:03
arkanabarright.  how?03:04
arkanabaror is that what the little menu dingus to the left of login form is for?03:05
intelikeyarkanabar usermod -G group1[,group2,...,[groupN] ] ]        and ffr  you can always test sudo  with this command    sudo echo yes       if it says "yes" it's working!      example;  usermod -G admin arkanabar03:07
foobhow can i tell what sound output device thing im using, (alsa, oss, etc)?03:07
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foobspeak now or forever hold your peace03:10
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arkanabar<sigh> ... I was going to have a different account for admin purposes.  I suppose I can create it, mod it to admin, and then remove admin privileges from this account.03:11
intelikeyyou can.03:13
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camargo_hello and happy new year03:13
camargo_I am unable to install a Logiteck quickcam express, any suggenstions03:14
camargo_?03:14
intelikeyarkanabar it's not recommended by the bubuntu team.   but i often find it easier to set a root passwd and use that until i have set the box up then passwd -d -l root03:14
arkanabarI may have to reinstall to do that.  I can't get usermod to work.03:15
boblenywhen useing the command thingy, how do I move a file from one folder to another?03:16
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FreshPrincehi guys03:17
boblenyHi03:17
FreshPrincewhere can i set my firefox as defaulkt browser ?03:17
intelikeyarkanabar you have to be root.    reboot and select failsafe/rescue/whatever single user mode is called   at the boot prompt  and you will be roor.03:17
intelikeyroot03:17
FreshPrincewhen i klick on a link.. it must be start from ff03:17
sareewhats a good light weight equivilent to KDE?03:18
FreshPrincehow can i set that? :S03:18
intelikeysaree kde = nothing03:18
sareei installed kubuntu but it makes my computer sluggish03:18
intelikeysaree there are several gui's for linux though03:18
sareeeven gnome is more light weight then KDE03:19
intelikeygnome xfce4 fluxbox blackbox twm icewm*  and a slew of others03:19
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intelikey<saree> even gnome is more light weight then KDE  <<<< no.03:19
sareei was thinking either Xfce or enlightenment03:20
intelikeyif you want light twm or flux/blackbox if you want bloat  most of the others.03:21
sareewhich would you reccomend intelikey ?03:21
foobkubuntu uses oss for sound ?03:21
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arkanabaroy gevalt.  I don't think I remember ANY of my kubuntu passwords.03:21
intelikeyfoob no alsa by default03:21
intelikeyfoob but it can use oss.03:21
foobintelikey: how come when i type lsmod only things saying oss show up, nothing about alsa?03:21
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sareetwm and flux are a little too light weight i want something thats just not as heavy as KDE03:22
foobgnome03:22
foobhow can i tell that kde is using alsa? lsmod says nothing about alsa03:23
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intelikeyit depends on what you call heavy,  gnome is as resource dependant as kde on this box.03:23
ZeroSystemhello, i am trying to run kubunta 6.06 live cd but it stops at a black screen saying uncompressing linux....ok, booting the kernal/03:23
sareek will try it out but for interest sake. can i install enlightenment using apt?03:23
intelikeyfoob kmix ?03:24
HymnToLifeZeroSystem, try Edgy, or another distro03:24
intelikey!sound | foob03:24
ubotufoob: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin03:24
foobnot having problems, just wondering which sound i'm using03:24
foobso i install the correct packages03:24
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intelikeyso have a look on those links03:25
foobkmix says it's using alsa03:25
intelikeyi told you that was default.  but that doesn't mean it's a must.03:25
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boblenywhen useing the command thingy, how do I move a file from one folder to another?03:26
intelikeymv03:27
noiesmomv /path/to/file /path/to/move/03:27
intelikeyor cp  and  rm03:27
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boblenyty03:28
lovlosshey guys. i installed imgseek but i cant find it anywhere03:28
intelikey!cli | bobleny03:28
ubotubobleny: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands03:28
lovloss!imgseek03:28
ubotuimgseek: Image viewer and manager with content based query. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-1 (edgy), package size 279 kB, installed size 1356 kB03:28
intelikeybobleny see the link ^03:28
lovlosssee i installed that!03:28
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intelikeylovloss check the kmenu ?     check the command line ?03:29
lovlossyep. 'imgseek' in terminal says there's no such command,  and i cant find it in kmenu03:30
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intelikeylovloss do# grep -e '/bin/' /var/lib/dpkg/info/imgseek*.list03:31
noiesmolovloss, try  "imgSeek" no quotes needs cap S03:31
intelikeyif it's got any binarries that should list them.03:32
lovlossoh it is imgSeek03:32
noiesmodoh03:32
lovlossi wonder why its not in the kmenu :<03:32
lovlossthanks tho intelikey03:33
noiesmolovloss, just add it maybe the installer doesnt add it to kmenu03:33
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intelikeyor actually not bessarily binarry but executables.03:33
lovlossgah. i wonder what *other* things ive installed didnt go to kmenu. i install so much in bunches03:33
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lovlossoh! yeah, i idd03:34
lovlosseverything works fine03:34
intelikeylovloss if you take note of that command you can do that with any package.03:34
noiesmocool :)03:34
intelikeygrep -e '/bin/' /var/lib/dpkg/info/<packagename>*.list03:34
intelikeyffr ^03:34
lovlosswhat does grep do exactly03:35
intelikeyget report03:35
lovlossah03:35
lovlosswell imma go organize stuff. thanks guys03:35
intelikeyparses text for the specified string03:35
lovlossthanks :)03:35
lovlosscya guys03:35
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draikJucato: Hey. You busy?03:36
draikJucato: BRB03:36
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intelikeyecho '1 2 3 4 5' | grep -o 3      <<< frivalus example03:36
intelikeyecho -e '1 \n2 \n3 \n4 \n5' | grep 3      <<< better example    then remove the  | grep 3     to see what grep saw befor it parsed it03:38
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draikJucato: Hello?03:38
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draikintelikey: I can't play the audio from online samples03:38
draikintelikey: any idea how to put it back?03:39
intelikey!mp303:39
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:39
intelikey!streaming03:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about streaming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:39
intelikeyoooops03:39
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draikintelikey: I'm not sure what it was before, but it's using mms now03:40
draikI can't hear the sample music for tones03:40
intelikeydraik out of my ball park there.   sorry mate.03:40
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crazy_busWhen03:41
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draikintelikey: Nothing regarding defaults for listening to audio?03:41
intelikeydraik does sound work ?03:41
intelikeyat all ?03:41
draiksound works, I just mean the player03:42
intelikeythen no.  sorry.03:42
draikfor online audio03:42
crazy_busWhen I inserted a DVD or CD, it used to come up with a screen asking me what I would like to do.  However that screen doesn't come up anymore, and a CD or DVD logo doesn't appear on my desktop.  Does anyone know how I can get them back?03:42
intelikeygeneral sound issue maybe but on line sound streams   or gui players.   no.03:42
dwidmanncrazy_bus: does logging out then logging back in help?03:42
dwidmanncrazy_bus: I know k3b disables that for some reason or another03:43
crazy_busThis problem has been here a few days.  In which time I have restarted my computer.  Is that the same as logging out then logging in?03:44
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dwidmannmore or less03:44
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crazy_busWould the problem be linked to switching from nvida binary drivers to nv one?03:45
dwidmanncrazy_bus: shouldn't be03:45
intelikeyno  ^03:45
premierhey, do you guys know where I could go for eclipse support?03:45
crazy_busBecause the autorun type screen disappeared around the same time I changed my video drivers03:46
intelikey#eclipse03:46
premierthanks03:46
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dwidmanncrazy_bus: open up kcontrol, go to Peripherals -> Storage Media -> Advanced, see what's checked, maybe it got disabled somehow?03:46
intelikeyUnable to load the requested driver:03:46
intelikeyUnable to create the Foomatic driver [Brother-HL-1020,hl7x0] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation03:46
mishelPlatinExcuse me, ho can I have my opera browser java-enabled?03:47
draikAnybody know how to change the default player for online audio?03:47
intelikeythat was from root kcontrol  btw   ^03:47
dwidmannmishelPlatin: well, you have to tell Opera where Java is, that should be all there is to it03:48
intelikeyJucato can you hit draik so he'll shut up03:48
crazy_bus"Enable medium autostart after mount" is checked.  And thats the only checkbox not greyed out03:48
dwidmanncrazy_bus: well, then this probably isn't it03:49
draikJucato: Jucato:03:50
intelikeyhmmm Jucato seems to be absent....    AWOL03:50
crazy_busAnother strange thing that happened at the same time is.  Kaffeine wont seem to play DVD's anymore.03:50
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draikHe is busy on his IMs03:50
soulriderwhats better, blackbox or fluxbox ?03:51
draikerrr, away on his IMs03:51
intelikeyflux is more up-to-date  but i like bb better my self.   flux is based on bb03:51
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soulriderintelikey: what are some differences ?03:52
tgentrycan anyone tell me where I can find the power management in kubuntu so when my laptop shuts it will shutdown?03:52
dwidmanncrazy_bus: Kaffeine always seemed hazy at best when it came to dvd playback for me.03:52
intelikeysoulrider ever see dsl ?03:52
soulrideruhm... no =/03:52
crazy_busdwidmann, what dvd player would you recommend?03:53
soulrideri use VLC03:53
intelikeydsl distro    'damn small linux'   well it uses flux      there really isn't a whole lot of diff in them.03:53
dwidmannI don't know, they all seem pretty hazy ...... I bounce back and forth between Kaffeine, Mplayer, Okle, and VLC03:53
intelikeydefaults mainly but flux is more configurable03:53
soulriderk, intelikeyim gonna try blackbox03:53
crazy_busmplayer isn't playing DVDs either.03:54
tgentryneed the codecs probably03:54
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soulridercrazy_bus: did you install decss ?03:54
soulrider!css03:54
dwidmanncrazy_bus, do you have (and still have) libdvdplay0, libdvdread3, libdvdnav4, and libdvdcss2 installed?03:54
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages03:54
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intelikeysoulrider dsl is full gui linux in a 50m package.   :)03:54
soulriderci want  A LINUX DISTRO I CAN BOOT FROM MY USB DRIVE03:55
HymnToLife!caps | soulrider03:55
ubotusoulrider: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.03:55
tgentry!power03:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about power - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:55
intelikeyone could install dsl from 30 count box of floppy disks   :)03:55
draiksoulrider: DLS03:55
draik!DSL03:55
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE03:55
draikwrong one03:55
premierintelikey: , there was no one on #eclipse03:56
draikDSL = Damn Small Linux03:56
dwidmannintelikey: and you know somebody insane enough to do that?03:56
crazy_busThat's what I don't understand.  DVD's were working properly a few days ago.  Also I have all the packages you mentioned installed03:56
draikJucato: you around?03:56
intelikeypremier you mean of the 80 odd users in there all were idle   ?03:56
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tgentryis it just one dvd thats not working or all of them?03:56
premieryeah, something like that03:56
crazy_busI've tried two dvds so far.03:57
intelikeypremier sorry.   maybe it's the wrong ToD for them   </shrugs>03:57
intelikeypremier you can always try ##linux03:57
premierintelikey: do you know when they're on, or where else to go?03:57
premierintelikey: thanks03:57
soulriderim sorry03:57
intelikeyor ##linuxhelp03:57
soulrideri didnt mean to use caps, it was an accident03:57
tgentrywhats the error? also check the player settings and make sure they are still pointing to the dvd player03:58
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intelikeypremier no.  i've been in there one time.  just before you.  only to make sure the channel was there  :)03:58
dwidmannspeaking of things, crazy_bus, it's not playing the dvds right, which error is it giving you, it's bound to say something right?03:58
soulriderk, im gonna tru backbox03:59
crazy_busThe source can't be read.03:59
crazy_busMaybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Encrypted or faulty DVD)03:59
tgentryand is the player pointing to cd or dvd?03:59
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dwidmanncrazy_bus: pull up a terminal, "kaffeine dvd:///dev/dvd"04:00
soulriderdamn!04:00
soulriderblackbox is fast!04:00
crazy_busI only have one drive and that is a dvd drive.  Also non-encrypted dvds seem to work.04:00
soulriderand looks real good too04:00
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dwidmannsoulrider: yeah, it is fast ... turn off all the effects and stuff in kwin and it can be pretty fast too though ...04:01
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intelikeysoulrider hehhe glad you like it.04:01
intelikey* intelikey hides before soulrider comes back to cuss him for sujesting bb  ;/04:01
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soulriderlol04:02
soulrideri like it, really04:02
tgentry!DVD04:02
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages04:02
soulriderbut how can i minimize something ?04:02
soulriderit kinda dissappears04:02
crazy_busBut css dvds were player two or three days ago.04:02
mishaanyone know about how to get warsow online?04:02
intelikeyclick the desktop and enable the taskbar04:03
soulridermisha i play warsow04:03
soulriderjust downlaod it, extract it and play04:03
dwidmanncrazybus: did you try what I said?04:03
mishasoulrider: I can play04:03
tgentryI would reinstall the css and see what happens04:03
intelikeythere is a short cut key to bring things back up too...04:03
mishasoulrider: but it won't connect to servers04:03
soulrideroh04:03
soulriderfirewall? =/04:03
mishasoulrider: routered, but it runs fine in windoze04:04
mishadamn04:04
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i4get2ping04:05
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kkerwinHi. I can't find /proc/config.gz or anything in /etc that resembles a kernel config. How might I find the original kernel config for the default kubuntu kernel?04:06
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hattakkerwin, I think it's in /boot04:14
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kkerwinhatta: Thank you very much.04:14
kkerwinhatta: Ahh, yes, I see it here: /boot/config-$(uname -r)04:15
foobanyone know why mpg123-alsa is making my mp3s skip when i load applications but mpg321 doesn't. I have an FPU and alsa enabled, mpg123-asla is supposed to be more efficient... is there a commandline switch i have to run, or do i have to run it as root to get it to stop skipping?04:17
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premier_hey, guys, do you know of any good power management software for a laptop?04:21
foobrunning it as root does fix it04:21
dwidmannfoob, perhaps renicing it would help?04:21
premier_something that will tell me when my computer is running out of batteries, etc?04:21
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HawkwindLinux_galore_: Please don't announce your away messages publicly04:30
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balsamic_chickenis there an amarok theme that looks like the new window media player04:38
Dasnipa`windows should be a dirty word04:38
balsamic_chickenthat's04:39
balsamic_chickenhelpful...04:40
Dasnipa`why dont you ask the amarok devs?04:40
Dasnipa`/join #amarok04:40
angasuleI don't think amarok has themes? it's a KDE app04:41
angasuleskinning == evil04:42
balsamic_chickenthere's like a section on kde-look that was for amarok, but i didn't like anything that was there, that's why i wanted to know where other people find cool amarok themes =)04:42
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premierhey, do you guys know if there is a way to excute a script as the computer starts up?04:44
angasuleI don't actually 'see' amarok 99% of the time, it has global keys04:44
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damiani dont get it, when i start kubuntu, it opens kopete and konversation automaticalls04:45
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sareei want drivers for my vid card how can i tell which drivers to download i9 know its a Nvidia04:45
balsamic_chickenu don't want that?04:45
angasuledamian: in linux there is 'sessions saving', which opens up the programs that were open when you shut down last time04:45
angasule!nvidia04:46
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:46
balsamic_chickendamian: u can change it04:46
balsamic_chickendamian go to systems04:46
damianok04:46
balsamic_chickendamian: system setting, advanced tab04:46
balsamic_chickenthen go to sessions04:46
balsamic_chickensession manager actually04:46
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damianok gotcha so far04:46
damiani'm there04:46
balsamic_chickenthen pick appropriate choice04:46
balsamic_chickenwhich is04:47
damianlol oops i'm in stupid mode now04:47
balsamic_chickenstart with new session04:47
damianbalsamic_chicken thanks :D04:47
balsamic_chickenunder on login04:47
balsamic_chickennp04:47
damianthey did a real good job with kubuntu 6.10 for linux retards like me04:48
sareeGeForce2 MX/MX is my vid card so what driver should i install?04:48
angasuledamian: also, you might close kopete and konversation before exiting, and that way you'll still have session saving for konqueror (which I love)04:48
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damianangasule: that sounds like a really good idea, but being a widnows whore, i like to start my experience off with a blank session04:49
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angasuledamian: ah, well, you have lots of bad habits to unlearn ;) have fun!04:51
damianangasule: lol thanks :P04:51
intelikeybad habits    :)04:51
mrFunkyhey all04:51
intelikey</blinks>04:51
mrFunkywho be hittin the linux conf?04:51
damianyeah they are terrble, doing things in linux is way harder than doze though04:52
damianbut linux seems to have infinite possibilities04:52
osiriscan anyone recomend a vidoe editing program ?04:52
intelikey!dvd04:52
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages04:52
osirisim looking to mix a song with varios pieces of video i capture04:52
osirisand no, bot answers dont count04:53
Hawkwindosiris: avidemux04:53
intelikey!thanks04:53
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)04:53
bLaZeDosiris, cinelerra and kino04:54
osirisHawkwind, im looking for something with a gui that an end user might have a chance with04:54
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bLaZeDosiris, id go with cinelerra ive used it and it works greta for me04:54
damiani downloaded a .run file, a driver for my ati vid card how do i go about installing it?04:54
intelikeyi like this error...   5257 tty24    S      0:24 /usr/bin/kdialog --title kwin --msgbox Will not save04:54
intelikeyconfiguration.?Configuration file /root/share/config/kwinrc not writable.?Configuration file /root/share/config/kdeglobals not writable.?Please contact your system administrator.04:54
osirisi want to lace various final fantasy clips to a tune04:55
bLaZeDosiris, that will do that no probs04:55
osirissweet04:55
Hawkwindosiris: avidemux *is* a GUI04:55
osirishappy new year BTW to ya'll04:55
bLaZeDhehe same to you04:56
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intelikeywhat is it about the term "end user"  that sounds bad ?04:56
osirisyou know many adeot end users ?04:56
osiriser adept04:57
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intelikey!adept04:57
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto04:57
intelikeyubotu does that so apticly04:58
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angasuleintelikey: in fact 'end user' sounds like most coder's #1 wish, although 'terminate user' would be better wording04:59
balsamic_chickendamian make the .run file executable by right clicking and choosing property, u'll see a checkbox for making it excutable on one of the tabs u'd be seeing by now, after u change, just double click the .run icon, or u can go into console, cd to the folder that contains the .run file, and do: sudo sh <file name w/o bracket here>04:59
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intelikeyassuming a script ?05:00
intelikeyssssh it's Hobbsee_05:01
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boblenyHey, any one here?05:06
boblenyubotu05:07
bobleny!bad bot05:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bad bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:07
boblenyBye!05:07
intelikeywith 282 other connections to this channel why would someone think there was no one here ?05:08
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damiani cant change my screen resolution!05:16
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intelikey!resolution05:16
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:16
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crackcorn!tony05:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tony - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:20
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pcnerd37Hello.  I have a question for you guys05:28
pcnerd37Im going to migrate my parents from XP to Kubuntu and I was wondering if there are any jigzaw puzzle games that i could install on Kubuntu for my mother whos only hobby is playing jigsaw puzzle games05:29
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balsamic_chickeni bet there is05:30
balsamic_chickenjust google05:30
intelikeyjunior-puzzle - Debian Jr. Puzzles05:30
intelikeyxjig - An X11 jigsaw puzzle05:30
intelikeyor search the package database   :)05:30
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balsamic_chickenu shoudl play neverball, pissed the heii out of me on mehdi lvl 13 or 1405:30
goodthinghmm, what's jigsaw? Sounds cool :)05:30
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CzarAlexwhere can I add/edit the programs that are started at start-up?05:31
pcnerd37Gigsaw is the only one i have seen so far05:31
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balsamic_chickengoodthing google word: jigsaw and u probably find a bunch of explanation05:31
balsamic_chicken!jigsaw05:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jigsaw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:31
pcnerd37ok, thanks for the suggestion.05:31
balsamic_chickenhow do u make yakuake terminal transparent to background05:32
intelikeypcnerd37 what i posted are in the repos05:32
pcnerd37I find my parents too stupid to use windows and im tired of digging them out of the mess of viruses and spyware they seem to accumulate, so im going to force them to move to Linux so i dont have to worry about them so much05:32
pcnerd37intelikey, thanks05:32
intelikeyyou shouldn't call your parents stupid.   it reflects badly upon you.     "the apple falls not far from the tree"05:33
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pcnerd37this apple still believes it was switched by accident at the hospital05:34
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intelikeymy point is proven.05:35
intelikey:)05:35
angasuleI'm peachy05:35
manchickenHey folks, so in a compromise with my wife, I'm installing nvidia drivers so she can game a bit.05:35
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pcnerd37anyway, i better see if i can save thier windows at all or not just as a backup.  Thanks for the info05:35
manchickenBut... I'm now unable to get a driver to work...05:35
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draikJucato: You around?05:36
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manchickenText mode kinda stinks for browsing.05:36
matthew_fdoving, I did what you said with bmc43xx-fwcutter, but I am not able to enable eth1 (wireless)...weird, huh?05:36
matthew_I am having trouble with my broadcom bcm4318 wifi internal card on my lappy. What can I do? I've already tried to use gcm43xx-fwcutter and a tutorial from  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&highlight=install+ndiswrapper      any ideas, anyone?05:36
intelikey!nv | manchicken05:36
ubotumanchicken: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:36
manchickenbcm43xx-fwcutter is kinda unstable...05:36
matthew_oh...05:37
manchickenI ran it for a while and noticed some seriously strange behavior.05:37
manchickenlock-ups, suspend broke, etc.05:37
matthew_I just want wireless to work on my girlfriends lappy...bleagh05:37
manchickenTry linuxant.05:37
intelikey!wifi05:37
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:37
matthew_does that have the firmware for the BCM4318 AirForce card?05:38
manchickenintelikey: Your docs don't work as well in text mode ;)05:38
balsamic_chicken!qt05:38
ubotuQt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications05:38
matthew_@ manchicken ^^^05:38
matthew_intelikey, didn't help05:38
intelikeymanchicken as well as what ?05:38
manchickenmatthew_ I've got the exact same card.  I've found that linuxant's thingy work.05:38
balsamic_chickenwhat's there besides qt05:38
CzarAlexwhere can I add/edit the programs that are started at start-up?05:39
intelikeymatthew_ that's as far as i go with wifi.05:39
manchickenintelikey: As they do in GUI mode.05:39
intelikeymanchicken i wouldn't know i never use one.05:39
matthew_manchicken, excellent. do you have time to talk me through it, or at least watch from a safe distance?05:39
manchickenMoustaches are annoying when drinking milk shakes without straws....05:39
matthew_ooooh, look how cool intelikey is, he never uses a GUI....05:39
matthew_lol, jk, intelikey05:39
manchickenmatthew_: It really is as simple as going to linuxant.com and following their instructions.05:39
matthew_ok, thanks a lot, manchicken05:40
manchickenmatthew_: But linuxant is non-free... so I hate it.  But it works. ^_^05:40
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matthew_wtf?05:40
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passwordissamanis kubuntu something different from ubuntu?...05:40
matthew_ok, linuxant is out of the question...lol, I've got no money...actually, how much does it cost?05:40
intelikeypasswordissaman no05:41
manchickenUntil we get a WORKING free software alternative that doesn't break the rest of my OS, I'm forced to use proprietary nonsense.05:41
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manchicken$2005:41
manchickenUSD05:41
matthew_forever?05:41
manchickenYeah.05:41
intelikeypasswordissaman only the graphical user interface is different...   aka desktop05:41
matthew_hmmm, might be worth it...05:41
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matthew_it runs well, you say?05:41
manchickenDamn well.05:41
manchickenI think they can't really free it though.05:41
matthew_why not?05:41
manchickenThey're using win32/64 drivers.05:41
manchicken(which they can provide)05:42
matthew_bastards...so, it's just like ndiswrapper?05:42
manchickenNo.05:42
matthew_how is it different?05:42
manchickenUnlike ndiswrapper, it actually WORKS.05:42
matthew_ooooooooooh05:42
manchickenndiswrapper has never worked for me in 64-bit.05:42
matthew_ndiswrapper worked for me on a few boxes...just not this one...05:42
manchickenI've never met anybody who had ndiswrapper working on a 64-bit machine using an airforce one.05:43
manchickenmatthew_: Ever set up nvidia?05:43
matthew_hmmm, well, I don't care about 64-bit very much...just want the computer to work well...05:43
manchickenI'm all about the 64-bit.05:43
matthew_manchicken, nope, never played with video card binaries and the like...05:43
manchickenI'm shallow like that ^_^05:43
matthew_manchicken, but is there really that much of a boost in speed?05:44
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e1how do i have a transparent background for the panel bar05:46
angasuleintelikey: because it only shows integers? :P05:46
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intelikeyangasule yes and should be showing 005:47
angasuleintelikey: why? is it supposed to floor it?05:47
draikintelikey: I'm showing 218ms for lag05:47
manchickenmatthew_: Not really.05:48
matthew_so what's the point?05:48
intelikeyangasule yes.  well round it.05:48
intelikeywhat did you get about .6 ?05:48
angasule0.8 rounds to 1, floors to 0, ceils to 105:48
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intelikeybut you are looking at round trip   lag is half that.05:49
manchickenmatthew_: I'm a sucker for marketing.05:49
dsmith_question: how much RAM wouuld you say Kubuntu 6.10 consume?05:49
angasuleintelikey: oh, well, then there's borkedness involved05:49
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manchickenmatthew_: I'm sure it is faster and has benefits.  I'm also pretty sure that the variable speed of my processor is more useful to me than the actual 64-bit part.05:49
matthew_ah05:49
matthew_you conformist you05:50
intelikeydsmith_ about 65m05:50
e1he's a communist05:50
e1=)05:50
e1i have no idea what u guys are talking about but i just saw the word conformist05:50
e1anywayz05:50
manchickenmatthew_: I'm a non-conformist.  Most folks realize that 64-bit kubuntu doesn't let them use all of the non-free software that they want to use (e.g. flash) and roll back to 32-bit like pansies ;)05:50
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dsmith_hmmmm after running for a few hours its starts to creep above 1gb05:50
intelikeychim-pansies ?05:51
manchickene1: No, I'm an asshole, not a communist.  The definitions are very close, but the primary difference is that I like private property ;)05:51
manchickenintelikey: No.  Wussie pansies.05:51
manchickenintelikey: Those are MUCH worse.05:51
dsmith_64-bit kubuntu sweet :)05:51
intelikeyoh05:51
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manchickenAnybody know where nvidia-glx-config puts the backup xorg.conf?05:52
manchickenI'm having a hell of a time finding one.05:52
intelikeymanchicken not in /etc/X11 ?05:53
hananwhen running a game, I get error "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".", but glx isn't commented out of my xorg.conf... what am I missing?05:53
murchadh_bhabaintelikey: Do you know the vga=xxx (cheatcode) for 1600x1200 res?05:53
manchickenintelikey: I only see the normal xorg.conf05:53
manchickenEh, I'll just have xorg regenerate one.05:53
intelikeymurchadh_bhaba not off hand    something like 797    i don't recall really05:54
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murchadh_bhabaintelikey: Cheers, I'll keep looking. I'm using 903, which I think is 1280x1024, but I'm not near it to check. Thanks!05:56
soulrideranyone know if there are any nintendo DS emulators for linux ?05:57
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fyrewolhello05:57
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manchickenOkay, damnit, how do you regenerate xorg.conf?05:58
angasulesoulrider: apparently, yes05:58
fyrewoldoes anyone know a good place to get help with installing JRE05:58
manchickenStupid things not backing up confs for me and utterly failing to anticipate my laziness...05:58
intelikeymight have been 979 murchadh_bhaba   hehhe  i often invert/transpose and typo....05:58
angasule!jre05:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:59
angasule!java05:59
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository05:59
fyrewolthanks ubotu05:59
fyrewolive been jumping through hoops trying to do this05:59
angasule!thanks05:59
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)05:59
fyrewolwhoa.. thats cool06:00
murchadh_bhabaintelikey: I'll give it a go later. Thanks again, I think you're on the right track.06:00
fyrewolsee something new everyday06:00
manchickenAnybody know how to regenerate xorg.conf?  All I have is this dirty one that nvidia-glx-config hosed.06:00
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intelikeymanchicken sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:01
Zamberlern to configure xorg by hand!06:02
intelikeyZamber hehhe06:03
Zamberit's more fun that way ;] 06:03
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K`zanmplayer is not available for ubuntu?  What does one use for playing .wmv files?  TIA06:04
foobit's available06:04
intelikey!mplayer06:05
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile06:05
angasule!repository | K`zan06:05
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.06:05
ubotuK`zan: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:05
fyrewolin order to run limewire do u need java installed BEFORE you install limewire?06:05
K`zanfoob: Not finding it in adept.06:05
foobenable multiverse06:05
K`zanrr will check, thank06:05
Zamber!VLC06:05
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs06:05
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intelikeyK`zan but to answer your Q  vlc  :)06:05
ZamberVLC is better than Mplayer :P06:05
foobat some things, not all06:06
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intelikeysox is da bomb06:06
ZamberI had some issues in char coding when running video with subs06:06
foobi like having them both installed, kaffeine is surprisingly good. most default kde apps are very good compared to the gnome default apps :/06:07
Zamberbut it's my problem coz I was to lazy to change it in the conf :P06:07
K`zanintelikey: I'm used to mplayer :-), now if I can just figure out what "multiverse" is as it is not in any of my repositories...06:07
foobtype multiverse next to universe06:07
Zamberfoob true, byt caffeine has problems with wmv06:07
intelikeyK`zan add it.06:07
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main universe multiverse # restricted06:08
intelikeywithout the hash if you want restricted06:08
K`zanintelikey: nope don't want it restricted, reminds me too much of m$ ;-).06:09
K`zanThanks!06:09
intelikeyjap06:09
K`zanjap?06:09
intelikeyyap if you like06:09
manchickenOkay, that worked.06:10
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manchickenSweet.  Now onto the configging....06:10
ZamberK`zan it's restricted coz some media formats are restricted (codecs and stuff) not mplayer itself ;P06:10
K`zanAh06:10
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Zamberit's legal to use it (I think. In poland it is for sure :P.)06:11
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=== intelikey uses not restricted on principae o general
K`zanmust have done something wrong, added:  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main universe multiverse # restricted in adept but mplayer still does not show up, even after restarting :-(06:13
intelikeyapply   and see06:13
intelikeyhave to apply changes06:14
K`zanDid, lemme try again.06:14
intelikeyK`zan ah that is an edgy system    no?06:14
intelikeyyes ?06:15
intelikeyno ?06:15
Zambermayyyybe :P06:15
Jucatough! make up your mind intelikey!! :P06:15
intelikeyyou don't know ?06:15
K`zanpasted that in, clicked add, apply and close, still no soap.06:15
K`zanErr yes, it is edgy06:15
intelikeyk06:15
Zambersudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list06:15
Zamberrun it06:15
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Zamber deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main universe multiverse restricted06:16
Zamberpaste it to the file06:16
Zamberand save06:16
K`zanintelikey: did it06:16
Zamberbtw:  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main universe multiverse (look! no hash!) restricted06:16
Jucatomplayer is *not* in restricted...06:16
Zamberrun it when adept is not runnung06:17
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intelikeykate ?    it's *ubuntu police to use kdesu for gui apps ran as root in kde   and gksudo for gui apps ran in 'nome06:17
K`zandeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main universe multiverse # restricted06:17
K`zan#06:17
ZamberJucato it's not? gotta check :P06:17
K`zanOut of sources.list06:17
JucatoZamber: apt-cache policy mplayer... it's in multiverse06:17
JucatoK`zan: remove that #06:17
K`zanrr tnx06:18
Zamberintelikey kdesu <- gotta remember, to many tuts from the web made me dumb :P06:18
intelikeyoh so me do me soooo06:19
ZamberK`zan look for kmplayer package06:19
Zamberin adept06:19
K`zanYep, got that but it doesn't play .wmv :-(06:19
Jucatothe restricted components are for those packages that you almost absolutely need but are non-free in some ways, like restricted modules and binary drivers06:20
Zamberoh06:20
Jucato:O06:20
K`zankmplayer sucks badly compared to mplayer :-(.06:20
Jucatothis was about a simple .wmv?06:20
K`zanyes06:20
K`zan:-)06:20
JucatoK`zan: kmplayer uses mplayer06:20
intelikey<Jucato> the restricted components are for those packages that you almost absolutely need but are non-free in some ways, like restricted modules and binary drivers <<<<  hehhe i don't need.  :)06:20
K`zanYep, but somehow it just doesn't seem to work as well, damnifikjnow.06:20
Jucatoconsidering you already have kmplayer/mplayer installed and the .wmv still wouldn't play, then it's probable that the file is DRM'ed06:21
ZamberK`zan I have a genious idea06:21
Jucatoyou can't play DRM'ed media...06:21
Zamberconvert those wmv's to avi or something like this06:21
Jucatointelikey: that's what the "almost" means :P06:21
K`zanvlc works!!!!!!!!06:22
intelikeyoh, almost means    every one but intelikey ....  got it  :)06:22
Jucatointelikey: yep. exactly06:22
K`zanThanks **** MUCH ****06:22
Jucatoooh vlc.... going to consider using that in their next release... Qt interface...06:22
intelikey:)06:22
Jucatofor now, I'm juggling between Kaffeine and KPlayer...06:23
Zamberform the begining I was saying that vlc rocks xD06:23
intelikeysox06:23
matthew_I like mplayer for the variety of supported formats, but kaffeine wins for looks...06:23
Jucatountil you use your mouse wheel in kaffeine...06:23
makuseruanyone have any experiance with psx emulators in linux??06:24
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Jucatonither do I :)06:25
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intelikeyi would have just said   !i   but the bot whines about that.06:25
Jucatoyou're mean intelikey :P06:25
intelikeyin what sense ?06:26
Jucatomaking fun of other's typos... when you... nvm :P06:26
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intelikeylol06:26
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ironfroggyany ideas why Audacity gets an error opening /dev/dsp for recording and flash apps seem to just silently fail at recording anything?06:27
=== intelikey is a mean person in a mean city in a mean country
ironfroggyi checked and i have rw permissions on /dev/dsp06:27
intelikeyironfroggy something else using it?    arts for example ?06:28
Jucatointelikey: you forgot "in a mean world, in a mean universe, in a mean existence, in a mean reality"06:28
ironfroggyintelikey: duh06:28
ironfroggyumm... can i get audacity and others to place nice with arts for recording?06:29
intelikeyno no i can't judge the world,  no standard to measure it by.    same for space....06:29
intelikeyironfroggy use alsa ?06:29
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intelikeywhat will we hold the earth beside and compare the two ?    </shrugs>06:30
Jucatolunch time...06:30
Jucato:P06:30
ironfroggyi still get the same error, even after verifying nothing has /dev/dsp open06:31
intelikeyphilo sophe'06:31
matthew_!i06:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:32
intelikeyironfroggy it may not be your perms but the group perms.  i.e. the app may have to use the group  ?06:32
intelikeyironfroggy also try pointing at something in /dev/sound/06:33
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intelikeyis it /dev/sound/ or /dev/snd/  ..... i forgot....06:33
intelikeydoesn't matter   use the link06:33
intelikey!sound06:33
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin06:33
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ironfroggythe group permissions are correct06:35
intelikeyyou would ask.    i think it's   root:audio06:35
ironfroggybut audacity doesnt offer anything but /dev/dsp in the settings06:35
soulriderintelikey: both blackbox and fluxbox were fast,. but kinda confusing06:35
ironfroggyyes group audio has rw permissions and im running with group audio06:36
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foobhow do i see my sound settings in kde? in ubuntu i had system->preferences->sound06:36
soulridergo to kmenu > system settings ? sound06:37
intelikeysoulrider yes.  if you like minimalist  twm is  "IT!"  :)  but it takes some getting used to.06:37
foobthanks06:37
soulrideri like minimalistic stuff06:37
soulriderbut06:37
soulriderin blackbox when i minimized a widnow it just dissapeared06:37
soulriderforever06:37
soulridereven if i had docker installed06:37
soulrideri also didnt have any options in hte menues06:38
fildo!fonts06:39
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer06:39
Zambersoulrider xfce is nice and minimalistic06:39
soulrider im gonna try it Zamber06:39
Zamberbut if you wanna have something cool and minimalistic tune up kde for your needs :P06:40
intelikeysoulrider and you went to     right click the desktop > blackbox > configuration > toolbar options > enable toolbar ?06:40
soulrideryes06:40
soulrideri had the toolbar06:40
soulriderbut06:40
soulriderit didnt show anything in it when i minimized06:40
soulriderstuff just dissappeared06:40
intelikeyminimizid apps go there in dapper    ????  8[06:41
Jucatodoes anyone have a newbie guide for Xen?06:41
soulriderintelikey:  ???06:41
intelikeyidk maybe they added a bug in edgy soulrider06:41
soulridermaybe06:42
soulridernow06:42
soulrideri got another problem06:42
soulriderand its VERY annoying06:42
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soulriderafter a while of being connected06:42
soulridersome of my apps act as if i were offline06:42
soulriderfor example06:42
soulriderim chatting with you right now06:42
soulriderbut06:42
manchickenOkay, so I've got xgl running, but the resolution is hosed.06:42
soulrideri cant open any sites in opera or firefox06:42
soulrideror apt-get anything06:42
manchickenI can't find anything in the docs for that.06:42
soulrideri have to reconnect for anythign to work06:42
Jucato!xgl | manchicken06:43
ubotumanchicken: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems06:43
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Jucatocheck that channel. I presume those who know about XGL are in there06:43
intelikeysoulrider i'm networking illiterate  but that does not sound desktop related.    are you on a wifi card or something ?06:44
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soulriderno06:44
soulridercables06:44
soulrideri mean06:44
soulriderif i reconnect my dsl06:44
soulriderit works fine06:44
soulriderargh, brb, need to reconnect06:45
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intelikeyidk  i've never seen one have a working connection but other apps couldn't use the connection.     i have seen chat clients not work when they were connected and the connection reset on them    they have to be reconnected even tho they are still running and showing a channel and the connection is good.    they still ping out.          </shrugs>06:47
soulrideryeah06:47
soulriderbut im connected06:47
soulriderhold on06:47
Jucatothere were times when I can only connect to IRC and Torrent, but not to the web and IM's06:48
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Jucatoin my case it was a DNS problem...06:49
intelikeysoulrider see Jucato     and good luck to your penguin06:49
intelikeyi'm went06:49
Jucatoquack06:49
intelikeyi'm left06:49
Jucato:)06:49
soulrideroh06:50
Jucatoyou're down...06:50
soulriderJucato: you got a dsl connnection too06:50
soulriderwhat did you do to fix it06:50
JucatoADSL PPPoE06:50
soulrideryeah, i got an ADSL connection too06:50
Jucatoyou can connect to IRC but not the Web? (HTTP)06:50
soulrideryeah06:50
JucatoI changed DNS/nameservers06:50
soulrideralso06:50
soulriderif i use rpppoe to connect06:50
soulriderit connects06:50
soulriderbut nothing uses the connection06:51
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soulriderhow did you do that06:51
Jucatoedited /etc/resolve.conf06:51
soulridercan you guide me ?06:51
JucatoI'm using the DNS provided by openDNS06:51
Jucatosoulrider: ok. first make a backup of your original file.06:51
Jucatosudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.orig06:51
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soulriderdone, im ready for editing06:52
soulrideri have06:52
Jucatohehe first we make a copy that will hold the new DNS06:52
soulridernameserver 200.40.220.24506:52
soulridernameserver 200.40.30.24506:52
Jucatosudo nano /etc/resolv.conf.newdns06:53
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Jucatouse these nameservers06:53
K`zanCrap, avr-gcc is an old one :-(06:53
Jucatonameserver 208.67.222.22206:53
Jucato nameserver 208.67.220.22006:53
soulrideryou sure it will work?06:53
soulriderthose are not like06:54
soulriderindia only or anything06:54
Jucatosoulrider: http://www.opendns.com/start/unix.php06:54
JucatoI am not in india, fwiw06:54
soulriderJucato: you have a funny name, as in real name06:54
soulrideri thought you wer ein india =/06:54
Jucato:P06:54
Jucatosoulrider: anyway, did you put the 2 lines in the /etc/resolv.conf.newdns file?06:55
soulrideryes06:55
Daisuke_Idoi wonder how difficult it's going to be to get the original unreal tournament running under linux06:55
soulriderwell06:55
Jucatosoulrider: Ctrl+O to writeout/save, Ctrl+X to exit06:55
soulrideri kind of put it in resolv.conf :P06:55
Daisuke_Idoloki's site is down, so... :\06:55
Jucatosoulrider: oh ok... well, here's the problem if you did it like that..06:55
Jucatosoulrider: resovl.conf usually resets to the original DNS after a reboot06:56
Jucatowell not 100%, but 95% of the time, iirc06:56
soulrideroh crap06:56
soulriderBRB06:56
Jucatosoulrider: the reason I wanted you to put it in a separate file was so that changing from the original to the new dns would be as simple as "sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf.newdns /etc/resolv.conf"06:56
soulriderbut i ahve to do it after every reboot ?06:59
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Jucatosoulrider: not really, only when your original DNS is acting up... I'm not sure how to make the changes permanent...06:59
soulrideryou know, you can change the dns in the system settings thingy07:00
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Jucatosoulrider: yeah you could. but it also resets. this way, you have a backup07:01
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Daisuke_Ido!iso07:01
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning.07:01
Jucatoor theoretically, you would...07:01
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ubuntuhello07:03
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kubuntuhello?07:03
kubuntuanyone there?07:03
matthew_hello07:06
matthew_what's up?07:06
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e1how do i make yakuake screen transparent to background07:10
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Jucatoright-click -> Schema ?07:11
JucatoYakuake's settings are mostly like Konsoles07:11
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pulaskihello07:11
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pulaskiI've got a new install of kubuntu edgy eft 6.10 and I occasionally hang on restart.  When I try to reboot after such a hang up kubuntu drops into initramfs.  Has anyone here experienced anything similar?07:14
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hilltop_Good evening, anyone still up??07:19
veronicaI am07:20
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hilltop_Hi, been a long day , but I have a question:07:20
hilltop_I would lke to burn a DVD iso of the new KNOPPIX. K3b says it won't burn more than 4GB. KNOPPIX is about 4.3GB depending on how you count bytes. Using a KDE distro. Now what??07:21
veronicait's actually morning here but shoot07:21
hilltop_KNOPPIX is about 1.0043*4GB.07:21
veronicahave you looked for another dvd burning program in repo?07:21
hilltop_1GB is actually 4294967296 bytes.07:21
veronicaodd k3b wont burn it though07:22
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lovlossHow do you program something in c++ that will create a window in KDE? o.o im tired of my programs only doing things on the comman line07:22
Dasnipa`lovloss, gtk07:23
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lovlossDasnipa`: gtk? :3 wassat07:23
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JucatoDasnipa`: you do know that KDE uses Qt, right?07:23
Dasnipa`i forget what the c++ wrappers are for gtk but that is a good option... QT is another good option07:24
Jucatolovloss: GTK and Qt are GUI toolkits that you can use to create GUI programs07:24
JucatoDasnipa`: gtkmm07:24
Dasnipa`either are fine options07:24
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hilltop_I'm willing to use a command line if need be. What would be a good program?07:24
lovlossSo where do i go to get them ^_^07:24
JucatoQt is already C++ based, and KDE uses Qt... so if you're planning to make GUI apps in KDE, Qt would be the primary and natural choice07:25
Dasnipa`yes Jucato is correct here07:25
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hilltop_veronica, any ideas?07:25
lovlossJucato: but where do i get it? or is it already her07:26
Jucatolovloss: Qt is already installed (because KDE uses it). I presume you already have the kde-devel package installed. KDevelop and QtDesigner would be the apps you will want to use07:26
Dasnipa`lovloss, it is a fairly complex library. you will first want to learn it but youll have to get the library so that you can compile programs with it07:26
veronicahilltop_: working on it ....07:26
lovlossOhhh i see.... so i have to learn this library then07:27
hilltop_veronica, thank you.  I have a stack of books here and suddenly they seem worthless.07:27
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Jucatolovloss: there are other options. Python can do GUI apps too, afaik07:27
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lovlosstrue, but im going down the c/c++ path07:27
Jucatobut since you're looking for C++, Qt (and gtkmm) would be the best for you07:28
Jucatoor probably wxWidgets...07:28
hilltop_veronica, The DVD package says they store 4.7GB. shrug.07:28
veronicahilltop_: That happens. doesnt mean they are worthless07:28
lovlossnow, this library existas on my computer i take it. Can i look at it? does it have a manual?07:29
Dasnipa`theyll have a tutorial on the website07:29
Dasnipa`and probably many books you could buy on it07:29
lovlossi see u.u07:29
Dasnipa`you can also take a look at it07:30
Jucatolovloss: the qt3-doc package has the Qt Documentation07:30
Dasnipa`and also programs that are written with it07:30
Dasnipa`for examples07:30
lovlossokie... guess i have my work cut out for me07:30
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Jucatolovloss: there are lots of documentation out there... but take note that knowing how to program in Qt doesn't necessarily equate to programming in KDE...07:30
lovlosshow do you view -doc packages btw? i coiuld never figure that out07:30
hilltop_veronica, the message from K3b said 4GB limit like it was some coding issue, I note that I could not back up the iso file to my FAT32 drive.07:30
veronicahilltop_: Gnomebaker says that it will burn dvd to 4.38 not sure if it will will do iso though07:30
Jucatolovloss: depends, usually they can be viewed in the KDE Help Center, or in KDevelop or QtDesigner once installed07:31
lovlossaha07:31
lovlosswell im going to go try it out. thanks guys07:31
veronicahilltop_: what version of kubuntu are you using?07:32
murchadh_bhabahilltop_: Max file size for a single file on a FAT32 is 4GB!07:32
Jucatolovloss: you might also want to check out http://developer.kde.org, http://developernew.kde.org, http://quality.kde.org, http://women.kde.org for some tutorials, if you're looking for KDE-specific programming stuff07:32
veronicahilltop_: murchadh_bhaba is right about that07:33
hilltop_veronica, 4 GB, right I knew that and so am now wondering about K3b.07:33
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murchadh_bhabahilltop_: You'll need room on a different partition for a full 4.7GB iso!07:33
veronicahilltop_: k3b works fine for me as long as it is ubder 4gb07:33
veronicahilltop_: *under07:34
hilltop_But DVD is not FAT32 unless it thinks I'm burning a data file I suppose. But I want to do an ISO. K3b is not clear on how to do that.07:34
isedei seem t ohave problems connecting via HTTPS both in firefox and opera. what can be the common cause?07:34
veronicahilltop_: now understanding the question correctly i dont think there is a fix. might be, but i dont think so,07:34
murchadh_bhabahilltop_: Yeah, but the files might be using temp space on your FAT32 device during burning to the DVD. You do have a large FAT32?07:35
hilltop_Why would KNOPPIX guys put out an over sized iso? I think the iso is at the limit and K3b is not getting the message that I want too burn an iso.07:35
veronicahilltop_: could it have something to do with the chosen format?07:36
manchickenSweet.  Got beryl running.  Wife will be thrilled.07:36
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hilltop_I have plenty of room in my linux partition. Maybe the issue is not enough swap space??07:36
Dasnipa`hilltop_, how much swap?07:36
hilltop_manchicken, beryl is that 3D desktop, right?07:37
manchickenIt's a composite xgl windowmanager.07:37
murchadh_bhabahilltop_: Nah, check where k3b is storing it's files though. Make sure they aren't going to that FAT32. ?-)07:37
manchickenIIRC07:37
hilltop_I have 1 GB RAM, 2GB swap. That must be the problem.07:38
Dasnipa`hilltop_, that is not the problem07:38
murchadh_bhabahilltop_: You'll never use all that!07:38
Dasnipa`1GB is more than enough swap really that 2gb is a waste of 1 gb07:38
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hilltop_Dasnipa, I read recently that to remaster an iso, you may need up to 5GB. That may have been referring to DVD, not sure.07:39
Dasnipa`hilltop_, the old standard back when ram was in low amts (64 mb, 128, etc) was 1.5-2x your ram. but now that ram is up in the 1gb plus area nobody needs more than 1gb swap07:40
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hilltop_veronica, the chosen format for live DVD is what?  Must be FAT32, but I don't know.07:41
Dasnipa`hilltop_, im pretty sure id have heard a lotta people screaming if they had to have 5 gb of ram+swap to remaster a DVD that is ludacris07:41
murchadh_bhabahilltop_: Yes, and on an ext2/3 partition (or one that doesn't have the 4GB limit). As long as k3b is unaware of your FAT32 partition, it isn't the issue.07:41
veronicahilltop not sure at the moment sorry07:41
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hilltop_I'm just touching my swap, 592k. I have Mem used: 869348k, so no problem there.07:42
murchadh_bhabahilltop_: What partitions have you mounted?07:43
hilltop_I have FAT32 mounted, / and /home mounted and a thumb.07:46
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hilltop_There is lots of room, Konq says the iso is 0.43% too big, but when a burn is done it might be a different size anyways.07:47
pogojHello all07:48
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hilltop_OK, truth to tell, I'm a noob at K3b. What is the proper way to burn an iso in K3b? I opened a project - must be a mistake.07:49
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hilltop_OK how do I get rid of the project, I should have gone into tools to burn iso.07:50
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snowrichardhill top you can type k3b file.iso on command line and it will open the iso burner part for you07:51
hilltop_Ah ha!! I'm in. I got the project closed and told tools to burn an iso. Up came a list of files - the only one is KNOPPIX.iso and selecting -- off it went. Thanks all.07:52
snowrichardright ok07:52
firephotohilltop_: you can right click from konq too and select action > write image with k3b07:53
hilltop_Should be done is a few minutes, half way there now.  :)07:53
veronicahilltop_: yay07:53
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hilltop_firephoto, thanks. This will get simpler by the minute. :)   Unlike certain legacy OSs. :)07:54
snowrichardcnn is replaying the new years parties again must be a slow news day07:54
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hilltop_I clicked verify, so about 10 minutes maybe. Then KNOPPIX here I come...   BTW, I tried the KNOPPIX CD and have issues.07:55
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Chaniwhat p2p programs are popular these days? not bittorrent, the other stuff...07:56
hilltop_Anyone else notice the task bar disappears when going to workspaces 2 thru 4??07:56
isedewhere could i find a ready-made config file for the apt-get07:56
isede?07:56
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hilltop_I would ask KNOPPIX board - already did but no one home.  :)07:56
Daisuke_Idohmmph07:56
Mackashahello07:57
Mackashaanyone here?07:57
Daisuke_IdoUT seems to be a non-started.07:57
Daisuke_Idostarter*07:57
Daisuke_IdoCouldn't run Unreal Tournament (ut-bin). Is UT_DATA_PATH set?07:57
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Daisuke_Idoi thought that was the installer's job!07:57
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Mackashaanyone here?07:58
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Mackashahello!!07:59
Jucato!anyone07:59
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?07:59
hilltop_murchadh_bhaba I used to call myself newbie, but now after three years in Linux land, this is just part of the fun. Gotta love http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=3663507:59
Mackashahow to install for ubuntu?08:00
Mackasharestart pc and boots?08:00
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hilltop_firephoto, Oh oh, how do I know what K3b is done? I think it is.08:03
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firephotohilltop_: if your sound is working you'll know when it's done. should be a little progress bar that popped up too.08:04
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hilltop_Mackasha, if you have kubuntu live CD, boot it and there is a menu item for installing.08:04
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hilltop_firephoto, Does the popup go away when done, I wasn't watching (was over here cheering instead :)08:05
Mackashahilltop_, how? i'm currenty in windows now do I need to restart my pc?08:06
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firephotono, you have to click close on the burning window... so you should have  a window showing you the progress or any errors08:06
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hilltop_Reboot into CD (with CD in the machine), you need the bios to boot CD ahead of HD.08:06
thechrisi need install help08:06
thechrisi have the error "XFS may not be used on /boot"08:07
Mackashadon have08:07
Chanithechris: is /boot a separate partition?08:07
thechristhere is no reason for this, but i do have an ext2 partition used for boot08:07
Daisuke_Idothechris: change the filesystem in the partition manager to ext3, i think that's about all it allows08:07
soulriderMackasha: did you burn the CD ?08:07
soulrider!my08:08
Chanihuh. my /boot is ext208:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about my - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:08
veronicai use ext2 for boot too08:08
Mackashacan teach me step by step?08:08
thechrisChani: it is on a different partition, but i can't get the installer to notice08:08
hilltop_firephoto, the window shows the md5 sum and it is correct. I think it was a success!! Cheers. Left over bubbly all around.08:08
thechrisso there is no technical reason /boot can't be on xfs, why won't ubuntu allow it?08:09
Chanithechris: I hate the way the instalelrt handles partitions. iirc I didn't tell it about my /boot partition because it belonged to gentoo, then I manually copied the files over after it was done08:09
=== murchadh_bhaba now likes hilltop_'s article! '.\)
thechrisChani: same here, but it won't let me proceed unless i use ext3.08:09
hilltop_Mackasha, Do you have a kubuntu cd now?08:09
soulriderMackasha: do you have Nero burning rom ?08:09
soulriderMackasha: you need to put the CD image in the CD08:10
thechrisand if XFS doesn't work, i'm not using ubuntu08:10
soulriderrecord a CD with kubuntu08:10
Chanithechris: weird, I nevre used ext3 at all; I have reiserfs08:10
flaccidhow can i troubleshoot wpasupplicant. i cannot connect to wpa access points atm, only open ones08:10
thechrisChani: how?!  thats not even an option for me in ubuntu!08:10
firephotohilltop_: did you click the burn button? it doesn't sound like you did. the md5 check takes a few seconds or longer if the system is slow.08:10
Mackashacan teach me step by step?08:10
Chanithechris: I set up my partitions with knoppix and just told the kubuntu cd to install to there instaed of doing any partitioning itself08:11
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hilltop_murchadh_bhaba what do you mean?  Well I'll find out for sure when I boot into it tomorrow. It is very late here in California. :)08:11
Chanithechris: that was with a dapper livecd; maybe edgy changed things08:11
firephotohilltop_: once it finishes checking the md5, click the start button, upper left.08:11
thechrisChani: nope.  this is edgy.08:11
flaccidedgy sux :)08:12
thechrismaby the alternate install cd is needed.08:12
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Chanipossibly.08:12
soulriderMackasha: i dont have windows08:12
thechrisstill, i wanting to use this on my fileserver if this works well, and i'm useing xfs on my fileserver, if xfs doesn't work, then i'll just stick with an xfs-suporting distro08:13
hilltop_firephoto, what does the start do??08:13
Chanithechris: I see no reason for it not to work other than the installer being stubborn and stupid08:13
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thechrisChani: yes, i am aware that linux supports XFS for /boot.  i even have installs of such.  its pretty much just a broken installer08:14
firephotohilltop_: it burns the cd/dvd (if that's what you're trying to do)08:15
thechrisfor some reason, i can't see this ending well.  i can only hope ubuntu improved in the last year08:15
murchadh_bhabahilltop_: Just the article link you posted above. Good read. Good to see you got your DVD burnt. And goodnight!08:15
flaccidwhat to do when wpasupplicant doesn't work?08:16
Chanithechris: depends on your definition of 'improved' ;)08:16
hilltop_cool murchadh_bhaba, good night.08:16
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ChaniI'm *mostly* happy with edgy... but it's starting to get this I-know-what's-best-for-you attitude that's getting on my nerves08:17
K`zanAnyone run into this trying to install googlearth:08:17
K`zan./googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory08:17
K`zan[08:17
K`zanGot all the libXcursor stuff installed and still no go :-(.08:17
thechrisChani: last year when i tried it, the installer didn't really work and I was left peicing togther the system.  multiple X11 sessions were unstable.  i returned to gentoo because gentoo work with X11 better.08:17
hilltop_firephoto, I think the DVD is already burned. I guess I could pop it out and back in again - see what is on it.08:17
JucatoQtParted (the partitioner used on the Kubuntu Desktop CD) doesn't recognize/format XFS and Reiser, afaik. use the Alternate Install CD instead08:18
crimsunK`zan, dpkg -l libxcursor1|grep ^ii08:18
firephotohilltop_: if you never clicked that start button it isn't burned. but yeah, checking it won't hurt.08:18
K`zancrimsun: THanks much!08:18
hilltop_firephoto, OK, I'll click it, it did seem too easy. :)08:18
crimsunK`zan, that command only tells you if the package is in fact installed08:19
K`zancrimsun: ?? :08:19
K`zan{/usr/share/doc/avr-libc} $  dpkg -l libxcursor1|grep ^ii08:19
K`zanii  libxcursor1    1.1.7-0ubuntu1 X cursor management library08:19
K`zanI need to reboot ?!?08:19
hilltop_Ah, much better, I see your progress bars now. :/08:19
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crimsunK`zan, that seems fine, no need to reboot08:20
K`zanstill getting same thing, perhaps I need to log my user out...08:20
crimsunK`zan, just running ``sudo ldconfig''08:21
K`zansame...08:22
K`zan./googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory08:22
crimsunare you on amd64?08:22
K`zanMaybe reinstall yes.08:22
K`zanyes amd6408:22
crimsunDoes Google Earth actually run on amd64?08:22
K`zanAnother thing to add to the piles of stuff that doesn't :-(.08:23
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K`zan!?08:23
crimsuni.e., try ``linux32 google-earth''08:23
K`zanrr08:23
K`zanlinux32: command not found08:24
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crimsun!linux3208:24
ubotulinux32: Wrapper to set the execution domain. In component main, is extra. Version 1-3 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 56 kB08:24
K`zanNot installed, installing now...  THanks!08:24
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crimsunit'll only really help if the GoogleEarth you downloaded is in fact 32-bit08:25
hilltop_firephoto, verifying step now. Thanks for the final tip there. "Start"  hehe08:25
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firephotohilltop_: np08:25
K`zanSigh, same...08:25
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krautmoin08:26
K`zancrimsun: Will boot the 32bit gentoo box.  THanks, this 64 bit crap is a real PITA :).08:26
fowlduckyo, whattup08:26
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: Hello!08:26
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hilltop_firephoto, verifying step says error - Ooops. Female voice said Oh no!. Cute. but I should try one more time on another DVD. shrug.08:30
firephotohilltop_: no idea on that. maybe the disc was just bad? you could try burning at a slower speed maybe too.08:31
hilltop_firephoto, These are rewritable discs, shall I try the same one???08:31
hilltop_I'll try overwrite at 4x.08:32
Jucatoafaik, always burn at the slowest speed supported by the disk08:32
Jucatowhen burning ISO's08:33
hilltop_It says 4x on the package.08:33
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Jucatothen 4x it is. also try to check the "Verify written data" (or something like that) in K3b's options08:33
hilltop_OK if I overwrite, should it be formated? It is asking.08:33
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noiesmoI'm trying to run Legends and I keep getting an error related to fonts but i have installed lots of fonts anyone had this problem08:34
hilltop_Jucato, I did check verify (as well one the first burn)08:34
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hilltop_I_Eat_Plastic, you nic sounds like by DVD burner. :)08:37
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I_Eat_Plastichilltop: Like yours?08:38
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ayeizajedi!ati08:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:40
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hilltop_I_Eat_Plastic, my DVD burn this evening is not going well, on my second DVD.  :/08:55
Daisuke_Idoanyone familiar with shell scripting?08:56
Daisuke_Idoor at least enough to give me an idea of what's going wrong08:56
I_Eat_Plastichilltop_: Lol, howso?08:58
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fowlduckDaisuke_Ido: two things you can do, pastebin it and give us a link, or pastebin it and give the people in #bash a link09:07
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dopecan any of you guys get the adultswim.com fix to work?09:09
I_Eat_Plastic!09:09
I_Eat_Plastic!nvidia09:10
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:10
hilltop_I_Eat_Plastic, I'm getting errors, now on the second DVD. I think I'll call it a night on this one. :(09:10
Daisuke_Idohttp://pastebin.com/84941509:11
Daisuke_Idothe highlighted line is the one that's (apparently) causing the problem09:11
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dopecan any of you guys get the adultswim.com fix to work?09:15
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ari-freeok I am back09:17
Admiral_Chicago!flash | dope09:17
ubotudope: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:17
ari-freestill couldn't get my monitor to stop flicker09:17
ari-freei know horizontal and vertical refresh rates09:17
ari-freei don't know how to change anything09:18
Admiral_Chicagoari-free: it's on your /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:18
ari-freeok how do i edit this09:19
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Admiral_Chicagotype kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf in run command09:19
Admiral_Chicagoin your K menu09:19
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ari-freeok09:23
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I_Eat_Plastic!nvidia09:24
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:24
I_Eat_Plastic!mp309:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:24
I_Eat_PlasticHow can i tell if the nvidia drivers installed correctly?09:26
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ari-freethat worked09:27
ari-freeand i set resolution to 16x12 @8509:27
ari-freenow i can read09:27
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hyper_chgood morning09:29
veronicahow can i find out wht my video card is?09:30
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veronicagood morning09:30
hyper_chveronica: in a terminal enter:   lspcia09:30
hyper_chit will then output quite a few things..09:30
JOSF!zeroconf09:31
ubotuzeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 132 kB09:31
JOSF!avahi09:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about avahi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:31
veronicahyper_ch: says command not found09:31
JOSFI want to transfer files between a WinXP Home and Kubuntu Desktop host. No Samba installed. I want to use Zeroconf/avahi for it. Any step-by-step guides ?09:31
hyper_chveronica: lspci | grep vga09:31
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JOSFWhat is the difference between "use zeroconf in network" and "scan local network" in the network configurator ?09:32
veronicahyper_ch: no output09:32
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hyper_chveronica: lspci | grep VGA09:32
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veronicahyper_ch:  ah okay. Thanks09:33
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ari-freeok now how do i install firefox09:42
hyper_chari-free: through the command line?09:43
ari-freethrough kde09:44
Jucatolook for Firefox in Add/Remove Programs or in Adept Manager09:44
hyper_chari-free: you can install it multiple way... either use a gui like adept or synaptic or use command line (even in KDE)09:44
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ari-freeok in adept09:45
sivajiwhat is the function of  "<<" operator in c program09:45
veronicahyper_ch: a little of topic but do you know if kubuntu can run composites in vmware?09:45
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Jucatosivaji: shift left bitwise operator?09:45
hyper_chveronica: dunno09:45
veronicahyper_ch: okay just thought id ask in case09:46
sivajiwhat it does tell me with example09:46
Jucatosivaji: mabye people in ##c would know better09:46
sivaji5<<1=10 how09:46
sivajiok09:47
ari-freeso if i select firefox from adept i still have to dload it? not quite sure how this works09:47
Jucatoveronica: to be able to do composites, you need to have 3d hardware acceleration, which you can't do using the video drivers for vmware09:47
veronicaJucato: thank you09:47
Jucatoari-free: you're in Adept Manager? right-click to request install, then click on Apply Changes09:48
Jucatoari-free: basically what it will do is download the firefox package from Ubuntu's repositories, together with any other dependencies/packages it needs to run, and install it09:48
hyper_ch!adept | ari-free09:49
ubotuari-free: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto09:49
ari-freei see firefox in adept manager09:50
ari-freenot installed no change09:50
Jucatoari-free: yes, right-click on it, and select Request Install09:50
ari-freeok did that09:50
ari-freenow what09:51
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ari-freenow says not installed install09:51
Jucatoclick on Preview Changes to see if it will get installed without removing anything, then click on Apply Changes09:51
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ari-freeok now dloading!09:52
ari-freenow i have firefox09:52
=== Admiral_Chicago waves to Jucato !!!!
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago!!!!!09:58
Jucatohappy new year! :)09:58
Admiral_Chicagoari-free: what version of Ubuntu are you on09:58
Admiral_Chicagosame to you09:59
ari-free6.1009:59
Admiral_Chicagothat user was able to install KDE09:59
ari-freekubuntu09:59
Admiral_Chicagoari-free: yea you should be on 2.0 then09:59
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: kool. so what was the problem after all?09:59
ari-freeso i have firefox. now i have something familiar10:00
Admiral_Chicagouniverse wasn't enabled10:00
Jucatoheh :)10:00
ari-freeoh i enabled everything10:00
Jucatoprobably a Dapper system. Edgy has universe enabled by default10:00
Jucatoari-free: oh we weren't talking about you :)10:00
ari-freeyeah but still...i figured out how to do that10:00
ari-free:)10:01
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Admiral_Chicagogood. i didn't know edgy had universe enabled by default10:01
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Jucato:)10:02
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crimsunyeah, gotta update my blo...err, wait, no.10:03
ari-freeok error10:04
ari-freeYou will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database10:04
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Jucatoari-free: what were you trying to do before this happened?10:04
ari-freei tried to install some nvidia driver10:04
Jucato!adept crash fix | ari-free10:04
ubotuari-free: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'10:04
Admiral_Chicagodo you even keep a blog?10:04
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Jucatoari-free: do those commands in Konsole10:05
ari-freedone10:05
Jucatonow try installing again10:05
spitwisecool you can pipe to a user10:06
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ari-freeok i see it says something with status broken10:06
sivajii took back up for a file but i terminated that process before completion as a result of this i get large no of duplicate copies including unspecifed file what will be the reason for this10:07
ari-freei right click. do i request removal, reinstall or purge10:07
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Admiral_Chicagogoodnight all10:10
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ari-freeok now adept won't load10:11
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metro-polisiehow do i un-upgrade me kubuntu?10:11
antsHi all!10:11
ari-freeis there something like task manager on windows where i can see processes and kill them10:11
flaccid_ari-free: crl+esc10:12
metro-polisieari-free: Ctrl+Esc10:12
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antsI have a problem upgrading edgy to feisty herd.10:12
metro-polisiehow do i un-upgrade my kubuntu (dapper)? because dapper update broke nv+nvidia drivers\10:13
ari-freehmmm  don't see adept here10:13
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ari-freewhy doesnt adept load10:14
metro-polisieari-free: have u tried restarting?10:14
ari-freex or the whole system?10:14
antsI tried starting from CD and it says several mounting problems and busybox comes up and now i'm stuck10:15
metro-polisieXVampireX_: do u know how to un-upgrade my kubuntu (dapper)? because dapper update broke nv+nvidia drivers10:15
ari-freelets see10:15
metro-polisiethe whole10:15
antsHave somebody had such a problem?10:17
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ari-freewell i got adept back10:18
ari-freebut it is still broken10:18
Li`lEndianHow do i download only mail headers in kmail?10:18
ari-freeThere was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.10:19
isedei am running kubuntu and it sems that everyhting related to cryptography stopped working - HTTPS in firefox and opera, also SSH. what did i screw up?10:19
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isedei reinstalled openssl10:20
isedeand ssh client10:20
ari-freenow i can't install anything :(10:20
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Jucatoari-free: run this command in konsole: sudo apt-get -f install10:22
kraut!aixgl10:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aixgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:22
kraut!xgl10:22
rich432Can Beryl be installed on Kubuntu 6.06 dapper?10:22
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:22
ari-freesays errors encountered while processing10:23
ari-free /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.17-10-386_2.6.17.1-10.34_i386.deb10:24
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ari-freeand when i bring up adept, still broken10:25
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ForgeAuswell Wolvix was ok but didn't last long...10:27
ForgeAusLunarLinux is like menu-driven gentoo! rofl10:27
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YazzYhi guys10:28
YazzYAny of you use beryl with kubuntu ? I have problems with virtual desktops10:28
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YazzYit shows one virtual desktop defined in the config but beryl shows 410:29
Jucato!beryl | YazzY10:29
ubotuYazzY: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl10:29
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YazzYthanks10:29
antsHave somebody tried to upgrade edgy to feisty herd?10:30
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ari-freedon't get me started...my adept doesn't work because i was trying to get the nvidia drivers so i could check out that opengl stuff10:30
Jucatoants: better ask in #ubuntu+110:30
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antsOk, thanks.10:30
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Jucatoari-free: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" again?10:31
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ari-freeErrors were encountered while processing:10:31
ari-free linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-38610:31
ari-free nvidia-glx10:31
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ari-freeok it's a much bigger output10:33
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ari-freedpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386:10:34
Jucatoari-free: still not fixing it?10:34
ari-free linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386 depends on linux-image-2.6.17-10-386; however:10:34
ari-free  Package linux-image-2.6.17-10-386 is not installed.10:34
ari-freedpkg: error processing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386 (--configure):10:34
ari-free dependency problems - leaving unconfigured10:34
ari-freedpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of nvidia-glx:10:34
ari-free nvidia-glx depends on nvidia-kernel-1.0.8776; however:10:34
flaccid!paste > ari-free10:34
Jucato!pastebin | ari-free10:34
ubotuari-free: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:34
ari-free  Package nvidia-kernel-1.0.8776 is not installed.10:34
ari-free  Package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386 which provides nvidia-kernel-1.0.8776 is not configured yet.10:34
ari-freedpkg: error processing nvidia-glx (--configure):10:34
ari-free dependency problems - leaving unconfigured10:34
ari-freeErrors were encountered while processing:10:34
ari-free linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-38610:34
ari-free nvidia-glx10:34
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ari-freeoh :)10:34
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Jucatoari-free: you're on Edgy, right?10:35
ari-freehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/213/10:36
ari-freei think so. how do i check again10:36
Jucato6.10?10:36
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ari-free6.10 edgy yup10:37
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Jucatoari-free: what's the output of "uname -r" (in Konsole)10:38
ari-free2.6.17-10-generic10:38
Jucatook, try to install this: sudo apt-get install linux-generic10:39
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Jucatoafter that, try installing nvidia again: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx10:39
Jucatohm...10:39
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ari-freehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/215/10:42
ari-freeunmet dependencies10:42
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Jucatoari-free: were you able to successfully install linux-generic?10:43
ari-freeyes10:44
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Jucatosudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-38610:44
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ari-freeThe following packages have unmet dependencies:10:46
ari-free  nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.877610:46
Jucatoari-free: but the removal of that package finished?10:46
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ari-freeno10:47
ari-freeit's broken10:47
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Jucatohm...10:47
ari-freewhen i use adept it says broken10:47
Jucatoari-free: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic10:48
Jucatoheh leave adept alone for a while...10:49
ari-freelinux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386: Depends: linux-image-2.6.17-10-386 but it is not going to be installed10:49
Jucatohm.. this is getting annoying...10:50
Jucatook... last try.. "sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386 nvidia-glx"10:51
ari-freeoh boy10:51
Jucato:(10:52
ari-freehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/217/10:52
JucatoI can only imagine your frustration... :(10:52
ForgeAusis konqueror depenant on Ark?10:52
JucatoForgeAus: nope10:52
ForgeAusgood :)10:53
ari-freeyeah because i can't try installing anything until this works10:53
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ForgeAusonly because i prefer krusader or xarchiver for managing archived files...10:53
ForgeAuskrusader is mostly unnecessary with konqueror as a file manager tho...10:53
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ForgeAusunless you don't use konqueror's browsing or file management and use firefox instead...10:54
ari-freewell10:54
Jucatoari-free: removing those two files, can you already run Adept?10:54
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ari-freewhen i go to adept, there's nothing in preview changes10:54
ari-freeso theres nothing broken10:54
ari-freethis could mean it worked :)10:55
Jucatoari-free: I believe so :)10:55
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JucatoForgeAus: I almost use Konqueror for everything...10:55
Jucato"almost"10:55
zeekcould anyone explain vmware to me a little better?10:56
zeekI have it installed on kubuntu edgy, but I don't understand the vmx file10:56
Jucatozeek: a vmx file is sort of like an ISO (CD Image), except it's a VMWare Image10:57
zeekwhere do i obtain one? I originally thought I could use vmware to run my windows xp install on anothe parition10:58
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Jucatozeek: hm... you could look around the internet for XP .vmx images, or search for "vmware" in http://wiki.kubuntu.org10:58
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zeekalright thanx. Is there no program around to run windows from my harddrive?10:59
ForgeAusum there is xp images10:59
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ForgeAusyou can get a kubuntu iso to install IN XP or microsofts XP SP2 (with ie6) "appliance" image from within other os's to run in vmware11:00
ari-freeok now i installed thunderbird11:00
Jucatozeek: nope... you basically have to either use an XP vmx or install XP on vmware11:00
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ForgeAussofar I h avn't found a MacOS "appliance" yet :(11:00
ForgeAuslooking for one of them11:00
zeekmy goal is to run windows in a window on my kubuntu desktop11:01
ForgeAuszeek kewl then get vmware player11:01
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ForgeAusand microsofts XP+SP2 + ie6 "appliance"11:01
ForgeAusthat should work... in theory11:01
zeekbut preferably my own already configured windows xp (I dual boot)11:01
ForgeAus(well not + ie6 is part of it) its for browser testing purposes for developers..11:02
ForgeAusyou might need to convert the appliance/image format to a vmx if its from microsoft because it might be in virtual PC format11:02
Jucatozeek: well... you can't... or not that I'm aware of11:02
ForgeAusbut you can download the VMware converter for free11:02
ForgeAusJucato you can11:02
ForgeAusI run my kubuntu basically the other way around11:03
JucatoForgeAus: basically he wants to be able to run his XP installation in VMWare11:03
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ForgeAusXP is my base operating system11:03
ForgeAusyes Jucato11:03
Jucatohm..11:03
ForgeAusI run my Kubuntu from in VMware in a base XP installation11:03
ForgeAusall he needs to do is get a .vmx of XP that works....11:03
Jucatoand your Kubuntu is installed on your hard disk?11:04
zeekyes11:04
Jucatoer sorry, that question was for ForgeAus11:04
ForgeAusand microsoft are supplying an image of XPSP2 pre ie7 for browser-development purposes11:04
JucatoForgeAus: and your Kubuntu is installed on your hard disk?11:04
ForgeAusjucato no in a virtual machine11:04
ForgeAuswell it is on my hard drive but the drive is a file11:04
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ForgeAusso I'm runing linux within XP11:04
ForgeAus(not using cygwin)11:05
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ForgeAusit does a way better KDE than cygwin would anyhow :)11:05
JucatoForgeAus: well that's the problem. this is what zeek wants to do: he already has an existing XP installation on his hard disk. he wants to run *that* installation in VMWare on Kubuntu11:05
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ForgeAusahh um as long as he isn't booting from it11:05
ForgeAushe should be able to11:05
ForgeAusjust reference the XP drive as the HD11:05
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manuel_hi11:06
zeekhow would I do that?11:06
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ForgeAuspersonally if you can (it might not be possible depending on what data you require) its better to install a fresh XP into a new virtual machine rather than use an existing partition11:06
rich432how do I find out what driver I need for GeForceFX5900 Ultra?11:06
cpk1anyone see this java error before? # Problematic frame: # C  [libglibjni-0.4.so+0x8d02] 11:07
ForgeAuszeek um do a websearch for additional VM tools to edit the .VMX file11:07
zeekif I have to have a new install I would rather just keep restarting to get to windows and vise versa11:07
manuel_how can i activate the numlock on x startup?  i have found a howto : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16891 but this is for gdm and not kdm11:07
ForgeAusthe player doesn't have the kind of options you get from the non-free server to mess around with the hardware ... but theres free utility packages that do more11:07
manuel_i can't find a /etc/X11/kdm/Init/Default11:07
Jucatomanuel_: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard11:07
ForgeAusat least for windows, I'm sure there'd be linux equivalents11:07
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Jucatomanuel_: you don't need to go through all those stuff11:07
ForgeAus(if not you might need to convert it to qemu format temporarily, more likely to be linux utils for editing/configuring them)11:08
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Xerohi can anyone help me?11:08
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ForgeAusanother option I know little about might be Xen... but thats a pot luck one for me at this point I have no idea what it lets you do, I havn't tried it before11:09
Jucatoyeah, I wanna try Xen too11:09
Jucato!anyone | Xero11:09
ubotuXero: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?11:09
ForgeAustheres a free express version11:09
dnyhi! hab mal ne frage zur installation. wenn ich bereits einen bootmanager habe mit mehreren systemen zur auswahl (suse, windows), bleiben diese optionen nach der installation automatisch erhalten? oder muss ich da selber rumwerkeln11:09
ForgeAusI just havn't got around to trying it yet11:09
ForgeAusis that german or dutch or something?11:10
manuel_this activate the numlock in kde but NOT in KDM11:10
zeekso I need an iso image for vmwware to use?11:10
zeekthats what this wiki is telling me11:10
ForgeAuszeek thats one way11:10
ForgeAusyes11:10
dnyForgeAus: German, sorry wrong channel...11:10
Xero"does anyone" have the ability to help me install kubuntu or has ever had a problem like mine, where after you press "install kubuntu" and it checks your system it goes to a black window11:10
ForgeAusor download a preinstalled image11:10
zeekwhats the other way?11:10
ForgeAuseither way11:10
Jucatomanuel_: ahh... hm...11:11
ForgeAusbut if you want to use your existing installation just refer to that drive11:11
ForgeAusgrrr you can't just refer to it without server or aditional tools to edit your .vmx tho11:11
zeekrefer to that drive in replace of referring to an iso image in the vmx file?11:11
ForgeAusum zeek what I've got installed is server... it lets you modify the .vmx and disk images11:12
manuel_any ideas?11:12
ForgeAus(limited options but you can modify them)... theres free tools that extend that even further and let you mount them as a drive and stuff under XP at least...11:12
ForgeAusnot so sure about under linux tho11:12
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Jucatomanuel_: only idea I have is google... there might be relevant information11:13
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ForgeAusin fact with ext2ifs you can even use your virtual (linux) drive as if it were a native windows drive!!!11:13
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MidMarkhi, is there a non-graphical way to set the monitor under kubuntu?11:13
ForgeAusthat one had me shocked anyway! lol11:14
crubeIs there I way to get my system tray icons to show in two lines instead of big icons11:14
XeroIs there a way to stop the kubuntu installation from going to an endless black screen and actually install it on my system?11:14
ForgeAusbut server isn't free... vmware player is11:14
Jucatocrube: system tray icons never change sizes. to make them show up in 2 rows, you have to make the the panel larger11:14
JucatoForgeAus: depends on your definition of "free"11:15
manuel_i have used it11:15
zeekI could do what I need to do with server?11:15
ForgeAusso if you do a web search for additional vmware software you might be lucky enough to get something that can modify further11:15
ForgeAusJucato, if you say, find a registry key from somewhere that works its "free" lol :)11:15
JucatoVMWare Server is free, not free software11:15
ForgeAusthe player itself although proprietrry software its free... and doesn't require registration11:15
JucatoForgeAus: yeah, you need the registration key by registering for free in vmware.com11:15
ForgeAusthe server is only free for a trial basis11:15
Jucatonot really11:15
JucatoI've been using it for more than 2 months11:16
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ForgeAusoh server is a free registration?11:16
JucatoI think you're thinking of vmware workstation11:16
ForgeAusI didn't try registering it so I wasn't aware you didn't need to pay for the process11:16
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rich432Should I install 6.10 or wait for bugs in 6.10 to be fixed?11:16
Jucatoit's been free for quite some time now11:17
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ForgeAusfor mine I had an old a workstation key that worked for it anyway...11:17
zeek6.10 works great for me11:17
dopewhen running a make file how do i download the dependencies11:17
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Xeroso i suppose no one knows how to fix what i'm talking about?11:17
crubeJucato:  yeah that seems to work. They were in one row when the size was normal, but after changing to large and back to normal they went in two lines just fine :)11:17
ForgeAusso I never actually tried registering the server verions11:17
MidMarkrich432: 6.10 has a lot of bugs fixed, but some introduced :(11:17
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ForgeAusand since it required a key I just assumed it wasn't free11:17
fowlduckserver is free11:17
ForgeAusthats kewl :)11:17
fowlduckas in free beer11:17
fowlduckforever11:17
Jucatoyou assume too much :P11:17
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ForgeAusI still need a MacOSX virtual disk! lol11:18
ForgeAus(or iso)11:18
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dopeanyone know how to get dependecies so i can use the makefile?11:18
ForgeAusand that one (shouldn't legally) be free11:18
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Xero....11:18
Xerooh well ill just email linux or somehting..11:18
fowlduckbut if you're using server instead of workstation copy (and you don't need the server functionality) you need to be smacked up like a four-year-old-redheaded-stepchild-in-kmart11:18
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ForgeAusunless Apple supply it themselves somehow (hopefully not for a fee)11:18
fowlducknope11:19
dopeso no one knows how to use this makefile stuff11:19
cpk1dope: sudo aptitude install build-essential11:19
dopealready got that11:20
fowlduckdope: so what's the question?11:20
dopebut there's dependencies i need before i can run the make file11:20
ForgeAusand theres little chance of Apple doing that11:20
dopewhen i run ./configure it says i'm missing stuff11:20
fowlduckForgeAus: there is zero chance11:20
Jucatodope: you install the dependencies from the repositories, or compile them yourself, too11:20
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dopeis there a way to automatically get whatever it is11:20
fowlduckdope: what does it say you're missing11:20
ForgeAusalso HPFS partitions aren't as easy to mess with from within XP11:20
cpk1then try to apt-get whats missing11:20
fowlduckno, you need to get it yourself11:20
dopechecking for COMPIZ... configure: error: Package requirements (libpng                    xcomposite              xfixes                  xdamage                 xrandr                  xinerama             ice                     sm                      libstartup-notification-1.0 >= 0.7) were not met:11:20
fowlduckand make sure you install the dev packages for whatever software it mentions11:20
Jucatofowlduck: sometimes you don't have to, if the version in the repos satisfy the dependencies11:21
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crimsundope, easily worked around with ``apt-get build-dep compiz''11:21
ForgeAusfowl, theres always illegally d/ling it from P2P but I'd rather find a legal way taht doesn't cost me anything first... I just don't think there is one at this point11:21
fowlduckdope: crimsun to the rescue11:21
fowlduckForgeAus: there isn't a legal free way11:21
dopewill "make uninstall" uninstall a program?11:22
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Jucatoif it's already installed, yes11:22
fowlduckhmm, i thought there was a way to make it so that it can be uninstalled, i think this is another crimsun question11:22
Jucatoand only if you kept the build output11:22
crimsunactually it depends on two things only: 1) Makefile.ins have appropriate uninstall targets; 2) ./configure has been executed, generating Makefiles from Makefile.ins11:23
Jucatobest way to install stuff without making them into packages would be to separate source code, build directory, and installation directory, and use the ./configure --prefix= option to install in some place in your home directory or somewhere you don't need root access11:23
ForgeAusfowlduck not at the moment but theres alway darwin to fall back on legally11:26
ForgeAusand also MacOs7.5 or something in basilliskII was legally downloadable from apple themselves for no charge11:26
fowlduckForgeAus: yes, but that's hardly osx ;)11:26
ForgeAusits pre OSX of course11:26
ForgeAusactually I don't get the point of darwin11:27
ForgeAusif you install a windowmanager over the top of it it can't be aqua right?...11:27
ForgeAushas to be a linux one?...11:27
ForgeAusif thats the case then why get darwin when you can get kubuntu?11:27
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ForgeAuswhat possible reason could one have for wanting darwin?11:27
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ForgeAusI'm guessing the filesystem is different (HPFS) is there any improvement from that??11:28
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ForgeAushmmm it'd be even kewler if you could install aqua as an alternative to your linux window manager! (like KDE, Gnome, WMaker, Fluxbox, Enlightenment etc)11:29
ForgeAusI know theres some apps that theme Linux like Aqua to look at but the applications are another story right?11:30
ForgeAuseven a MacOSX-like Docking bar for KDE... but Adium (instant messenger, I think I spelt it right) won't install under linux would it?11:31
Jucatobeing able to use aqua as an alternative window manager (presuming Aqua is a window manager) doesn't mean you can run Aqua apps11:31
e1!darwin11:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about darwin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:31
ForgeAusjucato?11:31
Jucatonvm :)11:32
e1what's darwin11:32
ForgeAusits the base os behind aqua on MacOS11:32
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e1is anyone running kiba dock on kubuntu edgy, just wanted to know cuz i couldn't get mine to work, and i'm not trying to right now, just wanted to know lol11:33
ForgeAusits like an alternative of Linux/BSD operating system that mac have just slapped a "window manager?" called Aqua on for the user interface...11:33
ForgeAusand Aqua seems to be the part they're trying to protect for some strange reason11:33
ForgeAusso names and versions update like kubuntu has edgy and dapper, macOSX has 10.8, 10.8, etc with names like tiger and panther and the newest one coming (or already here?) is leopard... I think...11:34
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ForgeAusgrr 10.8 10.9 that was meant to b11:34
dopewhen i run compiz my title bars disappear11:34
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ForgeAuscompiz? isn't that like related to beryl somehow?11:35
dopethey do about the same thing11:35
dopei had the same prob with beryl too11:35
Jucatodope: maybe the guys in #ubuntu-xgl would know better11:35
ForgeAusum its nto suprising that title bars vanish you need a decorator like emeryld or aquamarine to go with it11:35
dopemaybe i need that xgl thing11:35
dopethe new one is supposed to use the kde decoorator11:36
ForgeAusyou already have xgl if your beryl is working11:36
dopeit hought11:36
dopeberyl didn't work right11:36
ForgeAusis it?11:36
ForgeAusI havn't heard of a beryl that uses KDE decorators... but that sounds kewl :)11:36
Jucatocompiz/beryl = window managers, emerald/aquamarine = window decorations for beryl11:36
JucatoForgeAus: I think aquamarine lets you do that11:37
ForgeAusyeah Jucato I'm pretty sure I had that worked out11:37
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dopehttp://forum.go-compiz.org/viewtopic.php?t=33111:37
ForgeAusahh aquamarine is the decorator that imports/uses pre-existing KDE ones?11:37
Jucatoyeah, I think so11:37
ForgeAusIC11:37
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ForgeAuswell then I hda heard about it I just didn't know I knew it :)11:37
Jucatohaven't tried it out personally, but thats what I heard11:37
dopesays kde-window-decorator11:38
Jucatodope: you must remember that compiz is one camp, and beryl/emerald/aquamarine is another11:38
ForgeAusalso dope your desktop icons if you have any are likely to be gone/non-functional under beryl (and I assume if its related same with compriz)11:38
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dopethis is a fresh install of kubuntu11:39
Jucatoalso, beryl has had this ability through aquamarine for quite a while now. seems like compiz is only adding it now11:39
dopeberyl hasn't been on this install11:39
dopei just want compiz to work :|11:39
dopeso i have to get the aquarium thing?11:39
ForgeAusdoes aquamarine work for compriz too? or just beryl?11:39
Jucatonah. if you're using compiz (which you had to install, too, I presume), you don't need aquamarine11:39
Jucatoberyl only, afaik11:39
ForgeAusthen does compriz need a decorator?11:40
Jucatodope: anyway, like I said, most of the experienced compiz/beryl users are in #ubuntu-xgl11:40
JucatoForgeAus: I think it's built-in11:40
ForgeAushmmm then I'm not sure how to help... Jucato's suggestion of ubuntu-xgl is your best bet dope11:40
dopeyea i'm there :)11:40
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dopedo i need to d/l xgl?11:41
ForgeAusnot likely11:41
ForgeAuskubuntu has xgl builti n11:41
gnomefreakcompiz uses your window manager for decoration11:41
JucatoEdgy only :)11:41
ForgeAusor at least some version/part of it11:41
dopewell i dunno11:41
Jucatohi gnomefreak!! happy new year :)11:41
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ForgeAusoh yeah good point jucato11:41
dopei've always had window border problems11:41
ForgeAusI'm so used to edgy..11:41
dopethe title bars just disappear :(11:41
gnomefreakhi Jucato happy new year to you :)11:41
Jucatoactually, I think Edgy has AIGLX, not XGL, enabled by default...11:41
ForgeAusdope which distro of kubuntu you got? edgy dapper breezy badger feisty?...11:42
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ForgeAusjucato that sounds right11:42
MilhousePunkRockHey everyone!11:42
gnomefreakwindow boarder issue was a beryl issue not so much compiz11:42
dopeedgy11:42
ForgeAusbut with AIGLX you don' tneed XGL too right?11:42
MilhousePunkRockI am helping my brother-in-law to install Kubuntu through the phone11:42
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ForgeAusthe beryl site mentioned something about not requiring somethingb ecause AIGLX was built into edgy already11:43
gnomefreakaiglx + nvidia 9xxx you dont need xgl. for ati i think you still need xgl for beryl11:43
ForgeAuswhich was why they pointed to a repository instead of just an rpm (for other systems), etc installer..11:43
MilhousePunkRockIt is installed now, I wanted to set up Grub for dual boot with Windows...11:44
paoloHi. I can see my network card listed in lspci as "unknown network controller". however it doesn't appear as eth0: what should I do?11:44
ForgeAusMillhouse that I'd like to know too...11:44
ForgeAushow do you get grub to boot into a non-linux partition?11:44
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gnomefreakForgeAus: it should give you a choice11:44
ForgeAuseither that or ntldr to boot into kubuntu?11:45
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gnomefreakMilhousePunkRock: windows shouod have been detected during grub install/set up11:45
MilhousePunkRockForgeAus: I think there is a default entry in what you call "menu.lst"11:45
dopewell crap there go my title bars again11:45
MilhousePunkRockgnomefreak: Nothing mentioned about Grub so far, what I was trying to do is mount / and edit the menu.lst accordingly11:45
dopecompiz.real: Failed to lookup getCompPluginInfo in 'libpng.so' plugin11:45
ForgeAusdope maybe you do need xgl? is there any harm in trying it11:46
dopei dunno11:46
dopewe'll see11:46
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: should have been automatically detected. won't ask you anything during the installation if installing from the Live CD11:46
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gnomefreakMilhousePunkRock: grub comes at end of install its the last thing that the installer does11:46
MilhousePunkRockgnomefreak, Jucato: So you think we should try rebooting?11:47
gnomefreakMilhousePunkRock: yes you have to after you install ubuntu11:47
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: yep11:47
Jucato*cough*kubuntu*cough*11:47
ForgeAusor xubuntu :) rofl11:47
gnomefreakJucato: *ubuntu11:47
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ForgeAuswb dope11:48
dope:/11:48
MilhousePunkRockI never set up a dual boot for Kubuntu myself... We'll see, he is rebooting now11:48
ForgeAusany luck?11:48
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gnomefreak:)11:48
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ForgeAusmight come in handy for all this *nix stuff11:49
makuserudoes anyone ever use the input zoom?11:49
makuseruits really neat11:49
ForgeAusinput zoom?11:49
dopedamn, still no title bars11:49
ForgeAusnot even sure what your talkinga bout11:49
gnomefreakdope: beryl with nvidia card?11:49
makuseruinput enabled zoom11:50
makuseruzooms in on desktop11:50
dopecompiz with nvidia11:50
gnomefreakdope: try in #ubuntu-xgl11:50
dopethey're sleeping in there11:50
ForgeAusdope sounds like you have another kinda problem... (anything from that plugin you mentioned to something that drives the plugin)11:50
gnomefreakdope: there are manuals in the topic that might help11:50
ForgeAuslol dope I get where your coming from11:51
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ForgeAusppl scream at you for talking off topic but where they send you to an on-topic place nobody's available there...11:51
ForgeAusits annoying right?11:51
MilhousePunkRockSeems like grub was installed properly and a boot menu created...11:51
Jucatoyou can't help it... we don't control when people are available in channels...11:51
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gnomefreaksomeone is in there if he needs more help other than whats in topic11:51
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Jucatoeveryone's a volunteer11:51
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Jucatono one's being paid to answer questions... or to stay awake and wait for those questions...11:52
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ForgeAusJucato yeah its ok I'm just saying that if nobody's there he's likely to get more help here in that kubuntu is the base OS he's trying to run this stuff from... and someone else here may have had experience tryign to run it before...11:53
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ForgeAuslol jucato even worse for me I'm in Australia11:53
dopei'm just hitting brick walls with beryl and compiz so i guess it's not for my system11:53
ForgeAusso when I'm awake for you guys its the middle of the night mostly! rofl11:53
ForgeAusassuming your from America that is11:53
makuserudope: whats your peoplem?11:53
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gnomefreakdope: where did you get that version of compiz? the newest is 3.411:53
JucatoForgeAus: true. but then we have specialized channels for special situations/configurations... otherwise we'd all be in *gasp* #ubuntu11:53
ForgeAuslol flaccid :)11:53
flaccidheya11:54
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JucatoForgeAus: I'm quite near you :P11:54
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ForgeAusahh interesting :)11:54
flaccidwhere you again jucy11:54
ForgeAusNZ?11:54
ForgeAusor Asia?11:54
Jucatodope: yep... sad truth... compiz/beryl is not for everyone...11:54
JucatoSE Asia11:54
ForgeAushmmm ok my first two guesses would be... indonesia, or singapore11:54
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makuserudope: whats your problem?11:54
flaccidphilippinese?11:55
flaccidoops bad spelling11:55
Jucatolol11:55
Jucatoflaccid: yep. but -e :)11:55
flaccidyeah i'm drunk jucy11:55
flaccid:)11:55
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ForgeAuswhats it like over there these days?11:55
flaccidit would be um, beautiful11:55
flaccidhehe11:55
Jucatohm... unbelievably quiet...11:56
ForgeAusafter the big mess in the when was it 80's? with that female head of state (prime minister? president?)...11:56
dopei'm just through with it11:56
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Jucatojapan...11:56
flaccidjapan is expensive. i'd love to go but11:56
ForgeAusthe one that took over from imelda markos and her extreme amount of shoes...11:56
MilhousePunkRockOK, what would be the next step in order to get Dial-Up-DSL working (with a modem that claims to be Linux-friendly)11:56
Jucatook... getting offtopic here :)11:56
makuseruany overseas travel is expensive11:57
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: dialup DSL?11:57
flaccid!ppp11:57
ubotuppp: Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon. In component main, is standard. Version 2.4.4rel-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 320 kB, installed size 1016 kB11:57
flaccid!pppd11:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pppd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:57
flaccid!adsl11:57
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE11:57
JucatoForgeAus: imelda was the wife of the president11:57
ForgeAusJucato yeah11:57
flaccid^^^ sorry guys, try dat MilhousePunkRock11:57
ForgeAusthen some other lady took over... right?11:57
Jucatoactually, simply pppoeconf would do :) (PPPoE ADSL)11:57
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flaccidJucato: unless they need PPPoATM11:58
flaccid:)11:58
Jucato:P11:58
makuseruoops <<11:58
flaccidno wonder you are nice block Jucato11:58
flacciderrr11:58
flaccida nice bloke. as in nice guy11:58
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ForgeAuslol11:58
ForgeAusflaccid your lucky many people read typoese11:59
Jucato:P11:59
flaccidforge, i recommend grant's scotch its good11:59
flaccidheheh11:59
flaccidbut yeah fillos fill a chunk of the world's best DJs....11:59
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Jucato:)12:00
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ForgeAusthats interesting12:00
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flaccidyep its interesting alright12:00
Jucatomost DJ's here have very kool voices. just don't look at their faces :P12:00
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ForgeAusI love DJ's, at least for dance-trance-club-house-techno  style music...12:00
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flaccidJucato: i think you mean an MC12:01
flaccidForgeAus: you know the avalanches?12:01
Jucatono. I meant a DJ12:01
ForgeAusMC is Master of Ceremonies right?12:01
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flaccidForgeAus: correct12:01
flaccidJucato: hehe ok i think i get ya12:01
flaccid:)12:01
Jucato:P12:01
fowlducke1: i was gonna tell you something on #ubuntu but you left12:01
e1fowlduck o thx alot12:02
e1fowlduck what was it12:02
ForgeAusum avelanches are things taht happen when rocks or snow falls down a mountain! rofl12:02
fowlducke1: logmein won't work for you, but hamachi should create a VPN which will allow you to remote desktop without having to open ports12:02
e1fowlduck yeah i went to grab something to eat =)12:02
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paoloHi. I can see my network card listed in lspci as "unknown network controller". however it doesn't appear as eth0: what should I do?12:02
flaccidwell anyone dj dexter is fillo12:02
ForgeAusbut in context with DJ's and MC's I highly doubt I'm talking about the same thing you are!12:02
flaccidso is qbert, so is heaps more12:02
e1fowlduck cool, thx so much, is it because logmein is only for windows?12:02
fowlducke1: precisely12:02
e1fowlduck cool =)12:03
e1fowlduck i'll try hamachi then, looking forward to possibly seting up remote desktop, it'd be a big "finally" =)12:03
fowlducke1: really it's because logmein's destination clientserverthing is only for windows, the side that is doing the remoting just needs a web browser12:03
flaccidForgeAus: you know that song 'frontier psychiatrist' ?12:03
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ForgeAusuh.. no12:03
e1fowlduck cool, so window server, anything client right12:04
fowlduckyep12:04
flaccid!krdc12:04
ubotukrdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 498 kB, installed size 968 kB12:04
e1btw, is anyone else's firefox on kubuntu edgy not able to view cnn online wmv videos12:04
flaccid^^^ probably the better client12:04
e1i can see it with konqueror12:04
e1is there a game channel btw12:05
fowlducke1: *shrugs*12:05
e1hehe just wanted to find cool games to try out =)12:06
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fowlducke1: wolfenstein: enemy territory, is a nice one12:06
Jucatoe1: you need a plugin for firefox, afaik. not really sure which12:06
ForgeAushow about terminal services client? I guess that isn't free tho?? CAL's?12:06
fowlducke1: and it's free12:06
ForgeAussome linux distribution I was toying with had it12:06
fowlduckForgeAus: krdc12:06
flaccidkrdc does it all...12:07
flaccidrdp and vnc12:07
fowlduck!krdc | ForgeAus12:07
ubotukrdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 498 kB, installed size 968 kB12:07
e1fowlduck cool thx, i tried the win32codec, mplayer, mozilla mplayer plugin and kmplayer, still didn't work on firefox, but it works on konqueror, just annoying =)12:07
fowlduckdoesn't magically overcome port-forwarding, like e1 needed, but used in combination with hamachi you have a winner12:07
fowlducke1: i use a mac, so i dunno12:08
flaccid!hamachi12:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hamachi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:08
flacciddang12:08
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e1fowlduck cool =)12:08
ForgeAusfowl you know anywhere theres rdc screenshots?12:08
flaccidwhy do you need screen0rs?12:09
ForgeAusI've only used it between two Windows machines with Win2k12:09
ForgeAus(advanced server)12:09
e1!rdp12:09
flacciddon't worry . it works12:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rdp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:09
flaccidheheh12:09
ForgeAusflaccid I don't NEED them I'm just interested12:09
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flaccidoh in that case. its pretty basic. at least with krdc you can reduce resolution with rfb/rfb equiv12:10
e1what's rdp12:10
ForgeAusremote desktop protocol?12:10
ForgeAussomething like that12:10
e1ah ic12:10
flaccidthats right12:10
flaccidthats what windows remote desktop connection uses12:11
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paolociao giovanni12:11
paolo:)12:11
fowlduckuhh, just use it and you'll see what it looks like.  Or find krdc's website through google12:12
flaccidits just a dialog then a confirmation dialog pretty much12:12
giovanni112:12
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atomuskhello12:17
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flaccidhallo12:18
atomusk:)12:19
MilhousePunkRockflaccid: Thanks, that worked...12:19
flaccidwhat worked sorry12:19
atomuski had a question/problem, i was wondering why my sound is low12:20
MilhousePunkRockflaccid: pppoeconf12:20
MilhousePunkRock!multimedia12:20
ubotuFor multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications12:20
flaccidok cool12:20
MilhousePunkRock!mp312:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:21
atomuski have the master volume all the way up and its still low12:22
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MilhousePunkRockhow long would it take to mount the fat32 windows partition?12:24
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Keeperswelche busid muss ich in xorg.conf eintragen wenn meine grafikkarte laut lspci auf 0000:01:00.0 liegt?12:25
MilhousePunkRock!de12:25
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:25
flaccidMilhousePunkRock: 1ms12:25
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Keeperswhich busid do i have to add in xorg.conf if my graphics card lies von 0000:01:00.012:26
ForgeAuswow thats a long time!12:26
ForgeAushehe12:26
Keepersits an pcie card, xorg.conf says PCI:1:0:0 is that right?12:26
ForgeAusdoes zipslack work under XP?12:26
ForgeAus(loadlin vers of slackware)12:26
ForgeAusthat'd be interesting to toy with12:27
HymnToLifeKeepers, if you have a display then I would guess it is right :)12:27
ForgeAusI highly doubt you could run it from within XP maybe I'd have to put it on my 98 drive and add loadlin to an autoexec.bat menu or something?12:27
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KeepersHymnToLife: yes i have - but anywaay i cant configure my screen resolution to 1280x102412:28
ForgeAusthree choices then Win98 Norton Commander ZipSlack12:28
Keepersat least i added the resolution in the config12:28
flaccidForgeAus: delete all your norton products12:28
ForgeAusit'd be fun to run it under windows12:28
ForgeAusflaccid, this IS OLD norton in DOS before anti-virus, etc...12:28
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flaccidoh that will probably run in windows np12:29
ForgeAus(its a twin-pane filemanager like midnight commander, in fact what midnght commander was based off of)12:29
ForgeAusflaccid, nc will but zipslack? not likely12:29
flaccidnc ?12:29
Keepersubotu - i know what X is for ;) just switching from suse to kubuntu after 4 years, suse != kubuntu ;)12:29
ForgeAusplus its better not to run nc under windows12:29
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HymnToLife:)12:30
Keepershehe12:30
flaccidyeah i've seen nc run under windows12:30
ForgeAus(it can access lower level files than win98 can)12:30
HymnToLifesee the last link Ubotu gave you12:30
flaccidits just a dos program. windows is just a dos program..12:30
ForgeAusme too but its better NOT to12:30
flaccidForgeAus: what is a lower level file?12:30
ForgeAuslol yeah win98 is basically just a dos program dunno so much about XP...12:30
flaccidxp is still a dos program essentially12:30
ForgeAusgrrr lower level access to the file system than windows has12:30
ForgeAusreally?12:30
ForgeAusjust that the Dos is hidden from the user?12:31
flaccidno12:31
ForgeAuscmd isn't dos12:31
flaccidthere is now such thing as 'lower level access to the file system'12:31
flaccidcmd is not dos12:31
flaccidno12:31
ForgeAusI'm confused12:31
ForgeAuswheres the dos behind XP?12:31
ForgeAusI don't see it12:31
flaccidwhat do you think windows is12:32
flaccidits a dos program12:32
flaccidyou don't get actual dos prompt, you get command prompt12:32
ForgeAusI know win98 is a dos program essentially12:32
ForgeAusbut XP?...12:32
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flaccidxp is nt12:32
ForgeAusyou can't run win.exe or win.com from within dos to boot into XP12:32
flaccidits not dos12:32
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flaccidbut it can run dos programs in the 16bit sublayer12:32
ForgeAuswait before you just said XP was a dos program basically12:32
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flaccidyes basically12:33
ForgeAus<flaccid> xp is still a dos program essentially12:33
ForgeAusI don't understand12:33
flaccidyou can't expect m$ to actually overhaul anything can you?12:33
flaccidits a matter of resources12:33
ForgeAuslol no I don't12:33
flaccidm$ don't make sense12:33
flaccidthis all destroys the OSI model12:33
ForgeAusand I agree XP is basically the next step on from their old NT workstation12:33
ForgeAusit kinda merged 98 with the win 2000 pro12:33
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flaccidnt4 = nt4, win2k = nt 5.0, win xp = nt 5.1...12:34
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ForgeAusand prettied up the UI some12:34
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flaccidnot really at all12:34
ForgeAusflaccid sure but none of this explains where the dos is behind XP12:34
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ForgeAusif anything it says the opposite12:34
flaccidthink of NT as 32 support, but getting rid of old dos support12:34
ForgeAusthat theres NT behind it rather than DOS12:34
cloakableflaccid: Actually, XP doesn't run on DOS. It was the first home OS M$ had released that didn't.12:34
flacciddos is not a true operating system12:34
ForgeAusthat I can agree with12:35
flaccidcloakable: i didn't say that xp ran dos at all!!!12:35
ForgeAusits deficient for one12:35
cloakableflaccid: Then what is it? :P12:35
ForgeAusdoes that mean CPM isn't either?12:35
canllaithDoes anyone know where the option to disable showing of windows on the taskbar on all desktops went in kubuntu edgy ?12:35
flaccidhehe ask m$.......................... its a piece of shit12:35
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eilker hi, which log file shows my last shut-down time ? i cant find it...12:36
ForgeAusdos was stolen, xp was stolen vista will prolly be the first OS MS have made that wasn't stolen!12:36
flaccidnegative12:36
makuseruare there any programs for capturing video of the desktop?12:36
flaccidits all stolen from the start like you said12:36
flaccidvista = xp12:36
ForgeAuswell its still prolly built on XP as an evolution...12:36
eilker!vlc12:36
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flaccidthere is no such thing as an evolution with m$12:36
ForgeAusbut the Vista extras look reasonably untheived12:36
ForgeAusor at least I don't recognise them12:37
makuseruVista stole half its visuals form12:37
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flaccidthats graphics, big deal12:37
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flaccidlooks != system12:37
ForgeAuscloakable, I think NT would have been an OS before XP that MS made...12:37
makuseruall i know is that if it takes a company 30 people and 5 years to make a logout screen, they suck12:38
ForgeAusthey still havn't got their file system in order12:38
flaccidForgeAus: XP is NT!!!!!12:38
ForgeAusthey're planning to SQLize it12:38
cloakableForgeAus: Yeah, but NT was aimed at businesses.12:38
ForgeAusflaccid yeah XP is an upgrade of what NT was...12:38
fildostill shithouse12:38
flaccidForgeAus: its not an upgrade at all, its the same 'kernel' if you can call it that12:38
flaccidand its the same for vista12:39
makuserusame crap diffrent wrapper12:39
ForgeAusanyhow I dont evne like the default Vista look...12:39
flaccidexaclty12:39
makuseruexactly to what?12:39
flaccidForgeAus: notice how you care about looks first :)12:39
ForgeAusvista will be worse... tighter integration with DRM... :(12:39
flaccidexactly... a wrapper12:39
makuseruoh, ya12:39
makuseruDRM = satan12:39
ForgeAusflaccid, I never pretended I didn't care about looks12:40
fildoit has to give u a woody for u to use it12:40
flaccidhehe but its what you mentioned first :)12:40
ForgeAustheres alot more to vista than the UI tho12:40
ForgeAusactually no I mentioned the file system first12:40
flaccidhmmm like what12:40
ForgeAusthat they're planning to SQLize it but it didn't make the cut for vista12:40
makuseruhonestly i have heard not ONE good thing about Vista12:40
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D_Centhi12:40
ForgeAuswhat WinFS (confusing with WinFX)12:40
flaccidSQLize what ???????????????12:40
ForgeAusyeah SQL select-like database searches for files12:41
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ForgeAusalthough thats mostly all behind the scenes prolly12:41
flaccidForgeAus: thats bad, not good12:41
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ForgeAususer will just get an edit box most likely12:41
flaccidand winfs, what a load of shiz12:41
D_Centi have kubuntu 6.10 edgy and 2 soundcards. Where can I select the soundcard?12:41
flaccidForgeAus: like i said if thats true, its very bad12:41
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ForgeAusto type in the thing they looking for... but behind that will be some kinda sql-ish engine12:41
flaccidthats b$12:42
ForgeAuswell its kindab etter than searching through fats and whatever NTFS has12:42
makuseruteh search thing is a OSX knock off12:42
flaccidForgeAus: do you know what an index is?12:42
ForgeAusplucking it from a database is likely quicker12:42
ForgeAusan index, um not entirely sure in this context12:42
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ForgeAusI know in general what an index in a book is12:42
flaccidwell windows already has it12:42
fildohaas wat12:43
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ubuntuhii pppl12:43
flaccid"Windows indexing service"12:43
ForgeAusoh yeah indexing service12:43
fowlducki never use spotlight12:43
ForgeAusyeah I knew about that12:43
fowlduckno thanks12:43
ForgeAusalso active directory :(12:43
flaccidwell are you sure they are migrating that to sql, ForgeAus?12:43
ForgeAusno12:43
ubuntuhello12:43
flaccidactive directory has nothing to do with WIM :)12:43
ForgeAusI don't know if the indexing service will be related to WinFS or not12:43
flaccidthen why say it all :)12:43
ForgeAusi think this is more a metadata database or something?...12:44
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fowlduckwinfs is still being made?  I thought they ditched that12:44
ForgeAusfowl, did they?... it didn't make the cut for Vista I know that much12:44
ForgeAusbut I'm not sure if they're still developing it or not12:44
flaccidForgeAus: maybe. still not good from a theory pov :)12:44
ForgeAusit has been in the works since like win 95 or something12:44
flaccidit got the cut12:44
flaccidwho knows when its coming12:45
flaccidit was due 10 years ago12:45
ForgeAusI'm assuming they're still workingo n it12:45
flaccidForgeAus: and do you know what you might get from a new FS ?12:45
ForgeAusI still think they should have a Media center upgrade for XP pro (standard vers not MCE)12:45
ForgeAusa new FS?... no idea12:45
flaccidexactly12:46
flaccidnothing12:46
flaccidat best you won't have to defrag. but thats at best12:46
ForgeAusbut its bad enough with the range of FS's there already is12:46
flaccidnot really12:46
flaccidwindows only supports m$ FSs12:46
ForgeAusI'm more interested in kernel development12:46
flaccidso you are already cut down12:46
ForgeAusand the hopes that Hurd might evolve into something good!12:46
flaccidForgeAus: what in particular12:46
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ForgeAusin theory its got all the structural goodies desired in a kernel... pity it hasn't sofar worked so well in practice yet... but hen I don't know a whole lot about it...12:48
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ForgeAusany other promising alternatives?12:49
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flaccidalternative to what12:49
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mf_debiannexenta, ubuntu with solaris kernel12:49
ForgeAusthats itneresting.. I found there are a few debians with alternative kernels for solaris, (bsd?) or hurd kernels...12:50
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flaccidi don't see the point12:51
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mf_debianflaccid: me neither12:52
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ForgeAusflaccid, well assuming they improve the distro in some way its all good.. right?...12:52
ForgeAusbut I guess these things aren't improvments?12:53
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flaccidnope12:53
flaccidthese things create issues12:53
flaccidi gtg out12:53
ForgeAusok kewl12:54
ForgeAuscatch u round12:54
ForgeAushav fun12:54
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mehdihello12:57
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apokryphosgnomefreak: your script needs a conditional :P12:57
mehdido you knwo where i can find chanel irc for shrewall ?12:57
gnomefreakyep :(12:57
gnomefreakshorewall as in the firewall?12:58
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mehdiyes12:58
gnomefreakmehdi: did you try #shorewall?12:58
mehdinot yet i try12:58
gnomefreakas much of a pita it is to set up they better have a channel12:58
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VSpikeI find Akregator very slow ... is that just the way it is, or do I have a problem?01:02
VSpikeIt seems to take several seconds of 100% CPU load to switch to a new feed.01:03
VSpike7 seconds there to switch to Planet Ubuntu feed.01:04
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chillianhallo01:07
MilhousePunkRockhow come sound was playing fine on the live cd but does not anymore now that kubuntu is installed?01:07
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chillianI'm using kubuntu now, because XP crashed ;)01:11
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Jucatodoes anyone know what package allows Krita to save/export to GIF?01:14
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JucatoI already have libungif4g installed...01:14
makuseruare there any programs for capturing video of the desktop?01:15
Jucatomakuseru: screenkast, but it's not in the repos, afaik01:15
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makuseruafaik?01:15
Jucatoafaik = as far as I know01:15
makuseruoh, ok01:15
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VSpikeJucato: Mine does OOTB01:18
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ForgeAusback01:19
MidMarkguys is there a way to configure monitor under kubuntu without gui?01:19
JucatoVSpike: hm... must be something I don't have installed...01:19
MidMarka command line configurator I mean01:19
ForgeAusor a curses one MidMark?01:20
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Jucato"sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?01:20
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MidMarkJucato: and it resets the monitor frequencies also?01:20
Jucatoyep01:21
siddiquihello all01:21
Jucatobasically, you can also edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file01:21
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siddiquiI am a new bie to Ubuntu01:21
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siddiquianybodu can tell me where to download windows xp virtuall appliance ?01:22
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MidMarkJucato: I've done it, but without success, I've set frequencies for a monitor (nec multisync m500) but xorg seems to doesn't care about my mods01:22
ForgeAussiddiqui from microsoft of course01:22
ForgeAusexcept its probably going to require some converting01:22
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JucatoMidMark: you have restarted X, I presume?01:23
siddiquiwell i went to their website they ask for a genuine windows validation !01:23
MidMarkJucato: yep01:23
ForgeAusyeah it does01:23
ForgeAusits meant to01:23
siddiquiand i am on kubuntu01:23
siddiquihow come i can let it check genuine validation ?01:23
ForgeAusum siddiqui only way to get past that is either have a legal XP copy or use p2p to d/l it?01:23
ForgeAussiddiqui because microsoft havn't built wga in a way that makes sense :) lol01:24
ForgeAusdoesn't detect your using a non-microsoft OS it assumesy our a windows user01:24
JucatoMidMark: you've tried the dpkg-reconfigure command?01:24
MidMarkJucato: I set for example HorizSync to: 51-72 and another monitor tried say I was on 78 so seems that xorg goes out of range that I specifed... do you know why?01:24
ForgeAusI almost had WGA validating under kubuntu onnce...01:24
ForgeAuswas funny01:24
ForgeAusthere was a time where you could01:24
JucatoMidMark: no, sorry... I'm quite clueless when it comes to hardware...01:24
siddiquii have a bitTorrent client installed by default on kubuntu will that work for a p2p ?01:24
MidMarkJucato: I will try the command, now I haven't the monitor on my hands01:25
MidMarkthanx01:25
ForgeAussiddiqui if you like torrents sure I guess... I ahvn't tried it01:25
ForgeAuspersoanlyl I prefer gift or gnutella01:25
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siddiquinops i dont like torrent i like clean http downloads or ftp transfers...01:25
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diegoOla tem lagum brasileiro aqui????01:26
Jucato!br | diego01:26
ubotudiego: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.01:26
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gan|y|meda friend of mine has a problem. he wants to start the kubuntu live-cd (dapper) on a notebook (the same that i have) and the cd seems not to be recognised during boot-up. the boot order is set up properly, the image is burned with nero. the same procedure works with me (same nb model) any ideas?01:27
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gan|y|medother distros don't work either, so it seems to be image unrelated01:28
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siddiquiok me leaving have to went out for a work01:29
siddiquiForgeAus i will be back for guidence01:29
siddiquithanks01:29
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malik_hi guyz...........i have kmldonkey installed and everything works oki after i start the core by doin "sudo mlnet" ...........but when i start or restart the comp n boot my edgy i get an error msg which says MLDonkey core terminated unexpectedly what can i do to make this message go away?01:32
cloakableI've just installed zinf, and I'm getting an error when I try to run it.01:32
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MidMarkgan|y|med: what do you mean for "recognized"?01:34
gan|y|medmalik_: sounds strange, but restart. start kmldonkey, if it still complains try connecting to the core manually. and don't use any other file sharing programmes before starting kml (like ktorrent). that was the issue with my edgy install at least01:34
gan|y|medMidMark: it just skips booting from cd. the winxp cd works without issues01:35
chillianI'm a noob in Linux, with wich program can i play music?01:35
gan|y|medamarok01:35
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gan|y|medfor example01:35
gan|y|medyou are on kubuntu?01:35
chillianyes01:35
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chillianCan I also play america's army, are is this only for windows01:36
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gan|y|medok, why don't you read the (k)ubuntu docs and the wikis. irc is the wrong place to ask those quesitons, i am afraid01:39
eilkerhi, lets say i am downloading " wget -c www.foo.com/foo.iso " how can i make it stop and restart again (after some minutes)...?01:39
eilker!wget01:39
ubotuwget: retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 226 kB, installed size 1952 kB01:39
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malik_gan|y|med: i just restarted the comp from cold n it gave me the same msg, now if  i start kmldonkey it asks for core so normally  i start core manually by doing sudo mlnet n the prompt stops after telling me the core is started but doesnt go to the dollar sign so i just normally close the terminal and then start kmldonkey n then it connects with all the servers i want it to and do whatever i need...........i just want to get rid of that annoyin01:40
malik_message.........if u want i can paste it on pastebin ?01:40
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gan|y|medi am not sure if i can help. but you can try01:41
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gan|y|medjust my experience. but seems to be different, as for me i couldn't use mlnet at all (core didn't start)01:42
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MidMarkgan|y|med: if cd is not booting is burned in a wrong way or the media is broken01:43
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gan|y|medspecify wrong way, pls01:44
MidMarkthe right way is to download the iso and burn the iso with iso burning function, wrong way can be do manually add all files01:45
malik_gan|y|med: one reason cud be that core is in /usr/bin  so i have to sudo it plus when few wk ago i installed it n later un installed it i set the option as starting mlnet as deamon but i didnt allow it to restart automatically i think thats where the problem is01:45
gan|y|medof course, it is not manually burned01:46
MidMarktried other media?01:46
malik_but i cant find the option to make it start automatically as deamon any more01:46
eilker!kppp01:46
ubotukppp: modem dialer and ppp frontend for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 667 kB, installed size 3688 kB01:46
MidMarkanother thing can be a bios bug, try to update it01:46
gan|y|medso why don't you do dpkg-reconfigure mlnet (or whatever the package is called) and switch back from daemon01:46
gan|y|medor to01:47
gan|y|meddpkg-reconfigure package01:47
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gan|y|medok, thx a lot for your help. i'm going to try it. no cd image can prevent me from gaining another community member :)01:51
gan|y|medsounds a bit scary, doesn't it?01:51
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gan|y|medcu01:52
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chilliandoes the extension .exe also exsists in Linux?01:59
fowlducksure, but it's meaningless01:59
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fowlduckin linux a file is executable if it has the executable bit set02:00
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chillianthx, how can I see that?02:00
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fowlduckls -l02:01
chillianthx fowlduck02:02
fowlducknp02:02
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sivaji_2009"The process for the system protocol died unexpectedly" how to handle this02:03
sivaji_2009i cannt open any folder02:03
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sivaji_2009#ubuntu02:07
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cloakableCan anyone help me with Zinf?02:08
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ZoombyAnyone here who is using a KVM switch connected to 2 computers ?02:10
cloakableNot I02:13
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fowlducki did02:17
fowlduckwith kubuntu and ubuntu and windows02:17
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gaki333hi everybody02:17
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Zoombyfowlduck: you did ? had any problems ? I have one problem, not a major one, but it's annoying...02:22
fowlduckno problems02:23
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fowlduckexcept windows and Xorg display their screens slightly off, but the monitor i used had an auto-adjust button so it took less than a couple seconds to fix02:24
ZoombyI have one Kubuntu and one XP connected to the switch. Often when I switch over to the XP machine, the Kubuntu machine starts to log the following message (30 times per sec...):02:25
Zoombykernel: [17412588.980000]  keyboard.c: can't emulate rawmode for keycode 24002:25
Zoombythe syslog and kern.log gets pretty big after a while :-)02:25
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KaIxOkqualcuno parla italiano ?02:26
Jucato!it | KaIxOk02:26
ubotuKaIxOk: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:26
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calvarezhello! I have a fresh install of Kubuntu Edgy, and I want to put a share up so other Windows machines can connect.02:36
calvarezhow do I go about it?02:36
MidMarkshare what? hdd?02:37
gaki333Use samba02:37
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calvarezI was looking about samba, but for some reason the window machine will not connect02:39
calvarezit sees the computer on the network, but it does not see the share02:39
Zoombyare you sure that the sambaserver is in the same workgroup as the windows machine ?02:41
Zoombydo your defined share has the the right access privileges ?02:41
calvarezthey should be, the Windows machine can browse the group and find the Kubuntu box02:41
calvarezI think it is02:41
Zoombyok, hmm02:41
calvarezI'm not sure how to set up things in samba02:41
calvarezI am using the Sharing module in System Settings in KDE02:42
Zoombythere should be a samba-HOWTO somewhere, Google for it02:42
calvarezI am not editing /etc/samba/smb.conf by hand02:42
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Zoombyok, well, maybe you should, after reading the HOWTO :-) GReat way to learn the stuff02:42
calvarezZoomby, I found this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Samba_Server02:42
calvarezwith no luck02:43
calvarezwell, the main problem is that I don't quite understand it02:43
calvarezthe steps to do things are there, but I am not sure which steps are the ones necessary to do what I want02:44
hyper_ch!swat02:44
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:44
hyper_ch!swat | calvarez02:44
ubotucalvarez: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:44
Zoombyyes, swat can be helpful to you, check it out02:45
VSpikeI would recommend swat too.02:45
hyper_ch*smile*02:46
calvarezand in one of those links it says the KDE samba tool is broken :) no wonder02:47
calvarezI'll take a look at swat02:47
calvarezthanks02:47
Zoombyyou will also need a user account on the samba server for every user connecting to it02:47
Zoombythen you map them in smbusers and smbpasswd02:47
VSpikeYou can use password level access too, for simple sharing02:48
VSpikeOh BTW to get SWAT working you have enable the root account02:50
calvarezZoomby, I need a linux user account for every user that wants to connect, is that what you meant?02:50
hyper_chVSpike: you're positive about that?02:50
hyper_chcalvarez: no, you can create own sambausers02:51
Zoombyyes, IF you enable security=user in smb.conf02:51
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VSpikehyper_ch: I wouldn't swear that there may not be other ways :) but I googled and that was the solution for me02:51
hyper_chVSpike: I'll check my knowledge base :)02:51
blackleclarehello somebody speak spanish?02:51
hyper_ch!es | blackleclare02:52
ubotublackleclare: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:52
calvarezZoomby, hyper_ch, I am the root user in the linux box and I am the only user of the windows box that will be connecting to the linux box through samba02:52
blackleclarehola hyper02:52
calvarezI was thinking that simply using the user account should suffice02:52
Zoombywell, make an account on the linuxbox with the same name as the windows user02:52
hyper_chI don't think a user account is even needed02:52
hyper_chbut it's been ages since I setup my samba server02:53
VSpikeit's not. set share level access02:53
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blackleclareok gracias02:53
Zoombythen make sure that their passwords are syncronized and map the whole thing in smbusersd and smbpasswd02:53
VSpikethen make the IP of the windows box the only permitted one for extra security02:53
calvarezVSpike, you meant doing "security = share"?02:53
VSpikecalvarez: yes02:53
MidMarksamba need a user when from windows you have to access to linux02:53
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hyper_chVSpike: you don't need root access for swat02:53
Zoombythats the easiest way I think. then you will not be forced to enter password when you mount from windows02:53
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hyper_chVSpike: I just checked my konwledge base but that's in gemran only02:54
VSpikeyou also don't have to create a new account. You can alias account names02:54
hyper_chZoomby: if you have win xp pro - then you can save username/pwd for the network drive login02:54
VSpikehyper_ch: So what's the solution? When I used my user/pass I get the view only mode02:54
hyper_chVSpike: you're right02:54
VSpikehyper_ch: besides, enabling the root account in not really hard :)02:54
hyper_chVSpike: you have to login as root :)02:54
calvarezVSpike, hyper_ch, Zoomby, I am not too concerned with security, I only have these two boxes (windows and kubuntu) behind a router that is protected02:55
hyper_chVSpike: well, setting up works without root... but not logging in :)02:55
calvarezI just want the simplest configuration possible02:55
hyper_chsimplest way:02:55
calvarezsince I am not very familiar with samba02:55
hyper_chthat's this:02:55
hyper_chsudo apt-get install samba02:55
calvarezcheck02:55
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calvarezgot samba and smbfs installed02:56
hyper_chcalvarez: then sudo nano apt-get /etc/samba/smb.conf02:56
hyper_chcalvarez: wait :)02:56
calvarezsudo kedit /etc/samba/smb.conf02:56
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hyper_chfirst:  sudo cp /etc/samba/smb.con /etc/samba/smb.conf.old02:56
VSpikeheh02:56
calvarezyea, I made a backup first02:56
hyper_chcalvarez: first make a copy of the original file02:56
calvarezI did02:56
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hyper_chthen edit02:56
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hyper_chcalvarez: then paste this:  http://www.phpfi.com/18976302:56
hyper_chset workgroup to your workgroup02:57
hyper_chhost deny is that those can't access the samba share (normally routers)02:57
hyper_chand then you have entries for a read-only and rw folder02:57
hyper_chmake changes as you need them02:57
hyper_chthen save the config02:58
hyper_chand reload samba :)02:58
hyper_chcalvarez: then add a new user:   sudo add NEW_USER02:58
Zoombycorrection: 10.x.x.x are ip-adress range reserved for home/closed networks02:58
hyper_chcalvarez: then add a new user:   sudo useradd NEW_USER02:58
hyper_chZoomby: 10.0.0.1 is the router that connects to my cable modem... that's the gateway to the internet in my network setup02:59
hyper_chZoomby: so I don't wanna anyone outside my network accessing samba02:59
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Zoombythe 10.0.0.1 is in your ISP domain, not internet02:59
Zoombydoesnt matter03:00
calvarezhmm, so 10.0.0.1 is the router?03:00
hyper_chZoomby: 10.0.0.1 is my router - my gateway to the itnernet...03:00
calvarezthat's supposed to be the gateway as well?03:00
calvarezin my case that is 192.168.1.103:00
hyper_chcalvarez: well, I don't want anyont outside my network have access to samba03:00
ZoombyI usually bind samba to the interface it should listen too, that closes off anything else03:01
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Zoombyinterfaces = 192.168.0.3/255.255.255.003:01
Zoombyin my case03:01
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hyper_chZoomby: each one his own :)03:02
Zoomby:-) true. I do this too:  bind interfaces only = true03:02
hyper_chcalvarez: anyway, after that reload samba and add a new user:    sudo useradd NEW_USER03:02
calvarezso, I can't use the same user account I have>03:03
hyper_chcalvarez: sure you can03:03
VSpikeif you just have one machine, you could put its IP in hosts allow03:03
calvarezlike, if my linux user account was calvarez, I can simply put calvarez in "force user"03:03
calvarez?03:03
Zoombyif that is what the windows user is gonna map to, yes03:03
hyper_chcalvarez: yes, that force user and force group will be used for the permissions of files there03:03
calvarezcool03:03
VSpikei've not used force user before.. does that mean you just don't get any authentication request?03:04
Zoombywhats the username of the windows user on the windows machine ?03:04
calvarezit's the same one than the linux one03:04
Zoombygood03:04
calvarezdoes it matter if the Windows one start with capitol letter?03:05
calvarezthe linux one doesn't03:05
hyper_chthe final step is now creating a samba user:  sudo smbpasswd -a calvarez03:05
Zoombythen you can map calvarez -> calvarez and set a password via smbpasswd03:05
Zoombymake life easy and set the same :-)03:05
Zoombythen you can mount without give a password every time03:05
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hyper_chZoomby: or if you have winxp pro you give password once03:06
hyper_ch:)03:06
Zoombyhyper: are you running the samba server in a domain ?03:07
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calvarezaha! it works!03:07
Cklausz Hello there,03:07
CklauszIn Ubuntu 6.10 the xdg-utils package by Freedesktop Foundation's Portland Project is not installed by default. Will this change in further releases of Ubuntu?03:07
hyper_chZoomby: if I knew what you mean by that I could answer :)03:07
calvarezthanks guys :)03:07
calvarezmuch obliged03:07
Zoombynp calvarez. good luck03:07
hyper_chcalvarez: just a small tipp: make notes of what you did to achieve something :) next time you can just look when needed03:07
Zoombyhyper: samba can be set to be part of Windows network domain03:08
hyper_chI use egroupware's knowledge management to do that for me03:08
hyper_chZoomby: no, I don't do that03:08
Zoombyok03:08
hyper_chZoomby: don't know too much about windows networking and stuff :)03:08
ZoombyI wondered because you you said something about having XP Pro, it can share password with the samba server on a network level03:09
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VSpikeNo, it's just that XP Pro will remember a user/password of a network resource for you, but XP home will not03:09
hyper_chZoomby: no, in winxp pro you can save username and password upon first connection and then when you assign it as network drive it won't ask next time naymore03:09
Zoombyfor that I think you need to be part of a Windows domain, just having a workgroup wont suffice03:09
VSpikeeven though Windows 98 did.03:09
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calvarezXP home is lame03:09
VSpikethey just broke it deliberately in XP home03:09
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VSpikeyeah, it sucks03:09
Zoombywell, thats why we run Linux right ? .-)03:10
prophitinchey how do i get a list of all the channels on here03:10
hyper_chI'm looking forward for all those cool new features in Vista *lol*03:10
calvarezhehe03:10
VSpikeyou can get around it by putting a script in your startup folder.  I've made XP Home machines play on a domain before03:10
Zoombyhehe03:10
hyper_chlike I'm going to buy a new computer just because of a new OS03:10
hyper_chwhat's the term... bloatware?03:10
calvarezEven though I like some Microsoft products, I am definetely NOT excited about Vista03:10
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VSpikesomething like "net use \\server\share /user:domain\myname xyzpassword /persistent:no03:11
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Zoombygottago. nice chatting with you guys03:11
hyper_chI think MS Excel is quite nice....03:11
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hyper_chbut that's about it03:11
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calvarezI like VS 200503:11
boblenyI've liked a couple MS games but thats it! I don't like MS03:11
calvarezwell, I like VS.NET 2003 much better03:11
VSpikeYeah VS 2005 is good03:11
calvarezVS 2005 is buggy03:11
hyper_chdoes it run in wine? ^^03:11
calvarezit screws up the manifest files03:12
VSpikeI've only used the express versions03:12
boblenyHey, I have a question....03:12
hyper_chbobleny: just ask :)03:12
boblenyI'm working on it03:12
boblenyI forgot the word though....03:12
CklauszDon't you have any idea?03:12
hyper_choh, that's going to be a big question :)03:12
hyper_chin 2 months I'll start working :(03:13
boblenyWhen you install programs om linux and you have to do it your self, it's called something03:13
VSpikebuild?03:13
VSpikemake?03:13
VSpikecompile?03:13
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boblenyHmmm...03:14
calvarezbobleny, a couple of things:03:14
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calvarez1)yes, much of the software for linux is given as source code, that needs to be compiled and built03:14
calvarez2)if you use ubuntu/kubunt, you don't have to03:14
VSpike2*) mostly03:15
hyper_ch2**) don't forget xubuntu03:15
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calvarezsimply use a program called apt-get, which will automatically connect to several servers, see what software is up for download there, download it and install it for you03:15
calvarezeven easier than in Windows03:15
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Deadcakehello, i need help, i'm just trying to install on my pc this fantastic distribution..03:16
hyper_chsomething must have happened... a couple of police cars just went by... normally it's only the firefighters03:16
VSpikebobleny: or use synaptic, or aptitude03:16
CklauszI'll try it again:03:16
CklauszHello there,03:16
CklauszIn Ubuntu 6.10 the xdg-utils package by Freedesktop Foundation's Portland Project is not installed by default. Will this change in further releases of Ubuntu?03:16
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hyper_chDeadcake: just go ahead :)03:16
hyper_chCklausz: gonna ask this in every #?03:16
Cklauszyes03:16
calvarezapt-get is a comman line program, if you are not comfortable with it, you can install a program called synaptic or one called adept-installer which have buttons and will show you a list of sofwtare03:16
hyper_chhiho abattoir03:16
boblenyYes, but many of the prgrams I want arent in that apt program thingy...03:16
hyper_chCklausz: no straight answer yet on that issue? and what is it actually?03:17
VSpikebobleny: for instance?03:17
hyper_chbobleny: what do you need?03:17
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Deadcakebut when i boot up my computer with the kubuntu cd i enter on "start or install kubuntu" it starts the splash screen and nothing happens...sorry for my english..03:17
calvarezlol, connection dropped03:17
calvarezbobleny, do you have synaptic installed?03:17
boblenyLike, LAMP, or PCB are the 2 I'm thinking of right now03:17
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calvarezbobleny, lamp is available03:18
boblenyAnd yes i do have synaptic installed03:18
calvarezwhat is pcb?03:18
hyper_chDeadcake: you try with the life-CD or alternate cd?03:18
Deadcakemh no03:18
boblenyIt is a programe for designeing PCBs...03:18
VSpikeDeadcake: Have you tried the failsafe option? I can't remember the exact name of it03:18
calvarezbobleny, I assure you, you'll have a hard time finding a program that is not available in apt-get/synaptic03:18
calvarezbobleny, I don't know what PCBs are03:18
calvarezwhat does that abbreviation stand for?03:19
hyper_chbobleny: lamp is a acronym for linux apache mysql php.... there are a few nice sites that will tell you how to properly setup those... I recommed www.howtoforge.com03:19
MidMarkcalvarez: I have a lot of programs that aren't in synaptic03:19
boblenyOk03:19
calvarezbobleny, I set up my lamp server using synaptic only03:19
hyper_chMidMark: do you have universe / multiverse as repos enabled?03:19
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MidMarkcalvarez: mandvd, bpmdj are the first two03:19
calvarezjust the other day, and I also installed mod_python together with it03:19
lenscape! pydcop03:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pydcop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:20
MidMarkhyper_ch: for sure03:20
Deadcakei know because it happens even with other distribution, and always i write on the boot line "acpi=off vga=normal" because my motherboard has problems with acpi devices, but when i do this i see on screen "kernel panic: not syncing: attempted to kill init!"03:20
Cklauszhyper_ch: I just got this answer: "Cklausz: I doubt it, not until it is tested in Debian at least"03:20
CklauszIs there any "official" place where I can request this?03:20
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boblenyI have downloaded PCB alredy I just need to compile it. Thats what my question was... Does compiling programs diffrer from one linux distro to the next?03:20
lenscapeanyone know which package pydcop is in?03:21
hyper_chDeadcake: what cd are you trying to boot from? Live or alternate?03:21
Deadcakemh i don't exactly know03:21
Deadcakei just downloaded03:21
Deadcakefrom the kubuntu site03:21
hyper_chbobleny:  pcb - printed circuit board (pcb) design program03:21
boblenyYeah03:21
hyper_chbobleny: it is available in some sources... question is only which03:21
Deadcakei think it's live...that cd that boots system and then you can install it from an icon..03:22
[Amigo] I have dapper, nvidia 7600GS, driver 9631, beryl & emerald-themes. How to enable to work beryl?03:22
hyper_chDeadcake: if you sure you want to install then it's better NOT to use the live-cd... much better to use the alternate03:22
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Deadcake:( sorry....but now i have lost 1 cd :(03:23
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Deadcakethere's not a way to make that work?03:23
[Amigo] If I run beryl, kdm now restarting :(03:23
hyper_chbobleny: do you know how to add univers and multivers as repositories?03:23
hyper_chDeadcake: you can download the alternate cd....03:24
Deadcakeok....i'll do that :(03:24
Deadcakebut how can i boot the failsafe mode?03:24
hyper_chDeadcake: why the sad smiley?03:24
Deadcakebecause i lost 1 empty cd03:24
boblenyYeah, I added all of them...03:25
hyper_chDeadcake: oh.... hmmm, you have no 700mb RW cds?03:25
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Deadcakeno :(03:25
Deadcakei haven't03:25
hyper_chhow can I find out in what repo a package is?03:25
hyper_chDeadcake: oh :(03:25
hyper_chDeadcake: I'd adivce you to get 2-3 700 MB RW cds :)03:25
Deadcakei'll do that as soon as possible ..03:26
hyper_chDeadcake: so you can download iso anytime and test them... without requiring burning cds all the time :)03:26
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hyper_chDeadcake: took me also some time until I did that03:26
Deadcake:)03:26
hyper_chbobleny: can you pastebin the content of your /etc/apt/sources.list file?03:27
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boblenycan you give me a link to the pastebin thing?03:27
hyper_chwww.phpfi.com03:27
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hyper_chbobleny: you're using Dapper (6.06)?03:28
boblenyno edgy eft03:28
bobleny1.1003:28
calvarez6.1003:28
hyper_chhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=pcb&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all03:28
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hyper_chpcb is in the universe repository... so either you have not (yet) enabled that or not updated after enabling :)03:29
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Jucato!pastebin | bobleny03:31
ubotubobleny: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:31
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Deadcakehyper_ch there's no alternative way? such as usb drive?or network? (i'm writing from another pc in a network)03:32
hyper_chDeadcake: I haven't tried any other way... the most simple thing would really be get the alternate install cd if the live-cd has problems03:33
hyper_chDeadcake: I never had any problems with either... but quite a few people have with the live cd03:34
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hyper_chDeadcake: the alternate cd will directly install it... not like the live-cd first boot up and show you what it is and then give you an option for install03:34
Deadcakeand it will not have problem with acpi or kernel panic ecc ecc?03:35
boblenyHere the link I think... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/246/plain/03:35
hyper_chDeadcake: I don't know.... I never had problems03:35
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hyper_chbobleny: well, you have the universe enabled... no please enter into the console:   sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search pcb03:36
hyper_chor pbc03:36
hyper_chor whatever the correct name was :)03:36
boblenyError!!!03:38
boblenyWah!03:38
boblenyE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.03:38
hyper_chwhat error?03:38
hyper_chok, execute:  sudo dpkg --configure -a03:38
boblenyI got this error earllior too when I tried to run synaptic03:38
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boblenyWhat that do?03:39
hyper_chbobleny: sudo dpkg --configure -a03:39
boblenyAlready did03:40
boblenyWhat it do?03:40
hyper_chbobleny: again:   sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search pcb03:40
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boblenyagain?03:40
boblenyOk03:41
boblenyI did03:41
hyper_chagain error?03:41
boblenyno more error03:41
boblenythanks03:41
boblenyGTG03:41
boblenybye03:41
hyper_chbobleny: wait:   sudo apt-get install pcb03:41
boblenyI do that later...03:41
boblenyI GTG03:42
hyper_chcya03:42
boblenybye03:42
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VSpikeIf I get crashes from KDE apps like kicker or basket, what should I do.  Just ignore them and carry on? Or try and report the crash somehow?03:45
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hyper_chVSpike: I would change to xubuntu :)03:45
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VSpikehyper_ch: are you in the wrong channel? ;)03:45
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hyper_chVSpike: not necessarily... I have tons and tons of KDE appz instaled03:46
hyper_cheven /sysinfo  in Konversation says that I run kde...03:46
VSpikeI was just thinking that... to run KDE apps you pretty much have to install all of KDE, no?  Even if you don't actually use KDM and the window manager stuff03:47
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JucatoVSpike: 1) try to see if there's already a bug report about the crash or 2) you can make a backtrace by clicking on the tab in the crash dialog box (requires gdb to be installed), or 3) you just ignore it03:47
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VSpikeJucato: To do that, does it pretty much have to be repeatable?03:47
Jucatoyep03:48
VSpikeThought so03:48
Jucatoreproducible :)03:48
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VSpikeyeah03:48
VSpikeI've not noticed any real pattern to it.  That's a bitch anyway, because of course race conditions and deadlocks are almost impossible to reproduce.03:49
VSpikeThen again, have been on the other side of the fence and been the programmer taking bug reports, unless it's reproducible it's almost impossible to do anything03:49
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Jucatosort of... that's why I hate intermittent errors/crashes... can't reproduce them... no sense in reporting them...03:51
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VSpikewow.  the AMD support website sucks hugely04:06
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aljosais there a java (ant,tomcat,...) repository for ubuntu?04:07
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oemhi04:08
oemcan i run widows exe files on kubuntu04:08
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Bubba_Gumphow do i set programs to run as root through kde menu editor?04:11
Bubba_Gump!wine | oem04:12
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ubotuoem: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:12
oemcan i run windows exe file in kubuntu04:12
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JucatoBubba_Gump: you can either use "kdesu" with the command or check the "Run as a different user" (leave the username blank) in the menu editor04:15
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malik_how do i add amazon search engine into konqi?04:16
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malik_i want to add amazon into the search engine list like other ones there already like google and dictionary n stuff04:20
malik_how do i go abt it?04:20
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sivaji_2009i cant access my cd drive04:24
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sivaji_2009i dont get icon in desktop when  i put my cd04:24
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VSpikemalik_: it's actually quite easy04:32
VSpikeGo to Settings->Configure Konqueror and select "Web Shortcuts".04:33
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malik_oki.....im there but there is no amazon there04:33
VSpikeYou need to add a new one of those.  The URI I've used is:04:33
VSpikehttp://www.amazon.co.uk/s?field-keywords=\{@}04:33
VSpikeNot sure if that's exactly right but it seems to work04:34
malik_aaaaaaaah oki thats what i was looking for thanx mate04:34
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VSpikeNP04:34
VSpikeMake sure you tick the checkbox next to it to activate it04:34
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Jucatoit's quite easy to do if the search engine has a search url like that...04:35
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uaxehi guys04:35
zhabikhi04:35
zhabikwer weisst das04:36
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cs_hi @ all04:36
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malik_seems like a slow day or hr rather i shud say here04:39
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Jucatoprobably....04:39
VSpikeyeah does a bit04:39
Jucatoyeah, and you'll get -Jucato in a few minutes :P04:40
malik_are there actually 303 ppl in here or most of em are bots?04:40
Jucatono04:40
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Jucatojust parked or afk04:40
zhabikwho know that, "mhdd" to linux. Bad-blocks repair?04:40
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Admiral_Chicagolike I just came back from afk04:40
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago! :)04:40
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malik_ah admiral is back04:41
Admiral_ChicagoJucato!!04:41
zhabikhow can i repair bad-blocks in hard-disk?04:41
zhabikin *nix?04:41
Jucatofsck?04:41
Admiral_Chicagothat's a good question, I don't know myself04:42
malik_oki i ll fire one question........every time i start my computer ai get an error msg saying that kmldonkey core terminated unexpectedly...........how do i make it go away04:42
zhabikthis is on win04:42
Admiral_Chicagoi though fsck but I'm not sure04:42
zhabikmhdd04:42
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zhabikbest programm is mhdd04:42
zhabikbut only for win04:42
zhabiki need to linux04:42
malik_?04:43
zhabikmy harddisk has bad-blocks04:43
paoloHi. I'm trying to install an nvidia driver trhough a sh script. when I launch the script it says that I must stop X server. I tried to stop it, but with no results: i've tried both /sbin/init 3  and killall X.....04:43
zhabikctrl-alt-backspace04:44
Admiral_Chicagopaolo: then log into fail safe terminal04:44
malik_otherwise everything is working fine coz i normally sudo mlnet to start the core n then start kmldonkey n then take it from there its just that this annoying msg doesnt go away no matter what i do04:44
Admiral_Chicagosudo apt-get install sformat zhabik i think04:44
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zhabiksformat? thnx04:45
Admiral_Chicagothat's the output of an "apt-cache search bad block"04:45
Jucatopaolo: Ctrl+Alt+F1, login, "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop". that will stop the X server04:45
YeLkcoSwenas04:45
Admiral_Chicagono thats for SCSI drives04:45
YeLkcoSalquien me puede decir que tal va la 3.5.5 de KDE?04:45
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uaxewhat do you exatcly need, admiralchicago?04:46
zhabiki have no scsi. ide only04:46
Admiral_Chicago!es | YeLkcoS04:46
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ubotuYeLkcoS: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:46
paolowell, i'm collecting too  much and differents tips04:46
YeLkcoSok sorry04:46
paololet's try each one04:46
Admiral_Chicagouaxe: actually its zhabik that is trying to repair a bad block04:46
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uaxea bad block? what filesystem is?04:46
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zhabikntfs04:47
uaxecan't you use win to repair it?04:47
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zhabiki want to format to ext304:47
zhabikbut fsck write: "bad blocks"04:47
uaxe... mmm... i had a similar problem...04:48
uaxei solved it with04:48
uaxea block check04:48
uaxeif you do : mkfs.ext3 -h04:48
uaxeyou'll most likely find the right04:48
uaxeoption04:48
uaxei don't remember actually04:48
zhabikunder win is a best programm "mhdd" to repair bad-blocks, but i have,nt windows now04:49
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uaxea bad block can be only repaired by marking it as 'non allocable' space!04:49
uaxeyou can even do this with an ext3 format04:49
zhabikhow can i do it?04:50
VSpikehard drives used to come with a bad block table in their firmware.  I wonder if they still do that?  I'm think of ST502 drives04:50
uaxe.. mkfs.ext3 -h... i'm doing it now, wait a moment and I'll tell you the exact option04:50
zhabiki'm waiting..04:50
VSpike-c04:51
zhabikmkfs.ext3 -h -c04:51
zhabikright?04:51
uaxe-h is for the small help04:51
zhabikok04:51
uaxei'm searching on google...04:51
zhabikthnx04:51
zhabiki probe this04:52
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VSpikehmm.. man badblocks04:52
uaxefsck.ext3 -h04:52
VSpikethat's useful to know04:52
laurentiusal04:52
uaxefsck.ext3 should help you04:53
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VSpikeuaxe: he left :/04:53
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uaxeoooh... sorry... i found it too late04:54
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laurentiuym have a problem04:54
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VSpikeuaxe; not your fault, he was just impatient :)04:54
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uaxeVspike: tnx ;)04:55
uaxei have a little question04:55
morten_Dows anyone know what might make my computer freeze at the Running/init-top script?04:55
superkirbyartistI have problems with installing Criawips http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/250/04:55
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VSpikeIt seems odd that a standard user can insert a flash disk or other similar device, and the system will mount it for them.  They can then read and write it.  But they can't check the fs on it, because they must have root permissions to unmount it.  Is that right?04:58
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fdovingVSpike: no, regular users can unmount too. but they need to use the 'pumount' command.04:59
VSpikefdoving: hey, that's useful05:00
VSpikeI'm glad I asked that question :)05:00
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fdovingVSpike: of course, they can also use the unmount-dialogs in KDE too. right-click -> safely remove.. or what it's nameed.05:00
Jucatoyep, Safely Remove...05:00
fdovinghi jucato. :)05:01
VSpikefdoving: Good point05:01
Jucatohi fdoving! :)05:01
VSpikeI was thinking that just did a sync, rather that umount, but you're quite right05:01
sivaji_2009what is the command to shutdown in consol05:02
VSpikesivaji_2009: shutdown -h now05:02
fdovingsivaji_2009: or 'halt'05:02
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VSpikewish I could stop running XP in VMWare05:05
VSpikeI hate the way it keeps grabbing the focus and keyboard input05:05
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Jucatoctrl+alt doesn't free the mouse/keyboard?05:05
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ber_   ?05:06
aloyarci need to downgrade wine, how ?05:06
jpsAnyone likes to install both ubuntu and kubuntu? Is there a way to customize kmenu so it shows only K*programs?05:06
malik_which one is better?...........VMware/wine/xen?05:07
fdovingmalik_: depends on your needs.05:07
Jucatoyep05:07
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Jucatowhen it comes to virtualization, wine is out of the picture05:07
VSpikeJucato: It's not that..it's just like when I'm using something like Kubuntu, suddenly VMWare will just grab the focus.  I've never quite worked out what the trigger is05:07
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JucatoVSpike: hm... that's weird..05:08
VSpikeJucato: Yes, very05:08
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VSpikeI'd like to get rid of it really.  But I have no solution that will work with my Pocket PC other than XP + Outlook + ActiveSync05:09
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malik_the day i ll figureout how to install my webcam n tv tuner card in kubuntu i ll ditch win xp 4ever05:10
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bibekthis is really not the place to ask this but is DSL .deb based?05:11
fdovingdamn small linux?05:11
jpsI have ditched my xp... and I don't regret it05:11
fdovingi belive so.05:11
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lacinhi,05:12
bibekoh, i have an old horse, P3 and kubuntu is way too slow with eclipse05:12
bibekwill be trying dsl soon05:13
lacinI installed Ubuntu and now I want add KDE, Can I use Kubuntu CD as a Standard APT cd?05:13
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fdovingbibek: dsl IS .deb based, i just checked.05:13
jpslacin> I tryed to do that... got no good results... if you have broadband, i sugest using apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:14
bibekfdoving: thanks, does it take debian repos?05:14
jpsits a ~150mb download05:14
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fdovingbibek: i belive so, you can transform it into debian, it says.05:15
lacinjps, In fact I want Install KDE in my workplace and there I have 56K! limited account.05:15
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bibekfdoving: thanks, another question, how do i boot into init 1 from grub05:15
fdovinglacin: you can use the alternate cd. as a repo cd. the desktop/livecd is useless for that purpose.05:15
fdovingbibek: select recovery mode.05:16
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lacinfdoving, TNX05:16
bibekfdoving: ah TNX too05:16
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Xen0l!shell05:18
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands05:18
strHi all05:19
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Xen0lhey is there any way i can switch between tabs in konqueror with keyboard and not by mouse?05:20
aseigoalt+,.05:21
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Dr_willisXen0l,  i recall there being a way.. but i forget how. :)05:21
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aseigoer, ctrl+,.05:22
fdovingXen0l: ctrl+, and ctrl+. here05:22
fdoving:)05:22
aseigoalso, ctrl+pageup/pagedown05:22
toninohi all05:22
Xen0lthx :D05:22
toninoxenol suck my big cock you and your problem..bastard05:23
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Dr_willis0_o?05:23
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uaxeehi tonino, i have a problem05:23
Xen0l!language05:23
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:23
Xen0lso tonino GTFO05:23
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toninohi all..05:24
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fdoving!language | tonino05:25
ubotutonino: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:25
fdovingthanks for understanding.05:25
toninook...05:25
toninook..05:25
uaxetonino, please be friendly05:25
uaxethis is a serious05:25
uaxeforum05:25
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toninouaxe....god.................05:25
uaxe?? tonino what is your problem?05:25
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uaxeaehi tornino, can you help me?05:27
toninouaxe, i have a photo on my desk..i think that it is you..05:27
uaxeaoooooh... and what kind of photo05:27
uaxeait is05:27
toninoit is a big pig.... :)05:28
Jucatohm...05:28
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uaxeatonino??????????05:28
Jucatouaxea, tonino: -offtopic05:28
uaxeawhat are you telling???????05:28
toninoi have a problem.......05:28
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uaxeayes tonino05:28
uaxeai know05:28
uaxeayou have05:28
uaxeaa big05:28
uaxeamental problem05:28
Xen0llol05:28
fdovingtonino: this channel is for support only, general chatter happens in #kubuntu-offtopic.05:28
uaxeayou should suck my umid dic05:28
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fdovinguaxea: that applies to you too.05:28
toninofoving me???05:28
Jucatoboth of you stop it05:29
toninofdoving me???05:29
uaxeatonino sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:29
fdovingtonino: yes. you.05:29
uaxealet's stop05:29
toninouaxea....05:29
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uaxeathis05:29
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uaxeatonino where are05:29
uaxeayou from?!05:29
toninofrom san francisco..05:29
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uaxeaoooooh... i'm from dallas05:30
uaxeashall we meet05:30
fdovinguaxea, tonino, go to #kubuntu-offtopic please. if you have some question, ask it, everything else happens in #kubunut-offtopic05:30
uaxea?05:30
Jucato#kubuntu-offtopic05:30
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toninouaxea, a gay party???05:30
uaxeatonino FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUu05:30
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slow-motionhallo05:31
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Jucatooh great :P05:31
Dr_willisBusiness as usual eh?05:31
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fdovinghi slow-motion.05:32
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slow-motionhi fdoving05:32
Xen0ltonino aint u drunk?05:32
Jucatoheh sorry... kinda new to this :P05:32
JucatoXen0l: he won't be able to answer :)05:32
Xen0l:)05:32
Xen0lah05:32
Xen0ljust realized05:32
fdovingyou'll have to move the offtopic chatter to #kubuntu-offtopic.05:33
mindspinanyone here a wine expert?05:33
HymnToLife!anyone | mindspin05:33
ubotumindspin: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:33
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mindspinHymnToLife: If nobody would reply.I'd know nobody is an expert ....05:34
BluesKajHowdy all :)05:34
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Jucatomindspin: or those who are experts aren't here or unavailable05:34
mindspinyup05:34
Jucatoin any case, you could also try asking in #winehq if things don't work out here05:34
mindspinhanx Jucato05:35
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: I'm not an expect either :P05:35
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BluesKajtrying to get the open source ATI driver to work again but I get this message: "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"... I'm wondering what xlib is missing to make it work , can't tell what i need from the descriptions in adept or synaptic05:36
Admiral_ChicagoBluesKaj: you can fix that in your xorg.conf iirc05:37
BluesKajI tried adding GLX to extensions in xorg.conf, but no luck so far05:37
Admiral_Chicagoah that would have been my suggestion05:37
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Dr_willisBluesKaj,  its possible the Open source driver dont support that?05:38
BluesKajDr_willis, i had it working but after a kernel upgrade I lost the driver somehow05:39
Dr_willisahh. interesting.05:39
thelinuxguyyou need to add Option "Composite" "Disable" in xorg.conf, in section extentions05:40
Dr_williswell in the past when updating the kernels - ive had to reinstall the fglrx stuff..but you are not using fglrx.. so. not sure what to tell ya. :)05:40
bibekproblem!! when booting, the kubuntu with progressbar starts05:40
BluesKajfgl_glxgears generates the above error05:40
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VSpikeI find Akregator very slow ... is that just the way it is, or do I have a problem?05:40
thelinuxguythank you, Dr_willis ;-)05:40
bibekbut after sometime, the screen is filled with numbers like 400:1234 etc etc in rows and cols05:40
VSpikeIt seems to take several seconds of 100% CPU load to switch to a new feed.05:40
BluesKajyeah that's done  Dr_willis05:41
bibekand after some time, kdm start05:41
VSpike7 seconds to switch to Planet Ubuntu feed, for example05:41
bibekis anyone familier with this problem?05:41
Dr_willisbibek,  but it runs fine?05:41
bibekyeah05:41
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bibekkdm starts fine05:41
Dr_willisbibek,  sounds like some normal kernel messages and so on.. check 'dmesg' out put perhaps.05:41
Admiral_ChicagoVSpike: never happened to me05:41
bibekalso at tty1 i get strange messages05:41
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bibeklike eax .....05:41
bibeki forgot05:41
Dr_willisI tend to disable the splash screens and so forth - so i always see ll the purty messages05:42
bibekhow do i do that?05:42
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thelinuxguybibek, do you unmount open partitions when you quit using your computer ?05:42
JucatoDr_willis: you can have the splash screen plus some purty messages :)05:42
Jucatoremove the "quiet" option in menu.lst05:43
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VSpikeAdmiral_Chicago: interesting. There are a lot of articles in that feed.  Do you have any with a lot of articles like that?  I have archiving disabled.05:43
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Dr_willisJucato,  ive noticed more disrtos having that 'logo at top' and 'messages at bottom' sort of splash stuff now a days. :)05:43
bibeki dont05:43
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bibekbut should they be automatically dismount?05:43
Admiral_ChicagoI had ~30 feeds, keep them about a week old at most05:43
Dr_willisI use 'nosplas nofb verbose' (i think)05:43
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JucatoDr_willis: yes. and they have better bootsplash programs/engines :)05:43
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Jucatoyes, I almost forgot :)05:44
thelinuxguybibek, yes, they *should* unmount by themselves, but don't always do :-)05:44
JucatoI thought the new year would bring in a new Dr_willis :P05:44
BluesKajDr_willis, does this tell you anything ?   Error: couldn't get an RGBA, Double-buffered visual05:44
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bibekthelinuxguy: they were detected during kubuntu installation05:44
Dr_willisJucato,  well i may be getting a New Wife.. (well getting rid of the old one)05:44
bibekthelinuxguy: i didn't add them in fstab myself05:44
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Jucato:O05:45
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Admiral_ChicagoDr_willis: yea just throw her out05:45
Dr_willisAdmiral_Chicago,  she left allready05:45
bibekHow do i take screenshot of the errors :-D05:45
Admiral_Chicago:(05:45
thelinuxguybibek; alright, so you get strange messages on your screen. try to watch from wich point they start to appear...05:45
bibekthelinuxguy: the splash screen starts, at some point before it completes,05:46
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dwidmannbibek: the printscreen key05:46
bibekdwidmann: does it work in CUI mode?05:46
dwidmannI really doubt it05:46
thelinuxguybibek: start up your pc without "quiet" in your kernel-option line.05:47
thelinuxguyso you can watch all messages go by05:47
bibekthelinuxguy: alright, by editing grub conf file?05:47
thelinuxguypress "e" during the grub screen to alter the line05:47
thelinuxguypress then "b" to boot...05:47
bibekthelinuxguy: thanx i got it05:47
bibekthelinuxguy: i wish i could get screenshots05:48
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thelinuxguynot easy during boot to do anything ;-)05:48
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bibekthelinuxguy: how do distros put screenshots of their boot screens ???05:49
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Jucatobibek: vmware probably.... or something05:49
thelinuxguythey install the distro in VMware or something other Xen-like environment05:49
bibekic05:50
bibeki'll reboot and try to copy some error lines05:50
thelinuxguyso they boot that distro while still running there main - operating system05:50
Xen0lwhich piece of software has same features or similar to notepad in win xp? kate in kde?05:50
thelinuxguybibik; alright, good luck !05:50
Dr_willisgee.. notepad.. one of the most lacking in features text editor out....05:51
dwidmannwait, since when did notepad have features?05:51
thelinuxguyXenOl: gedit ?05:51
Admiral_ChicagoXen0l: correct! but kate is better05:51
Xen0lso kate also make hmtl php script and more?05:51
Dr_willistext editors are text editors....05:51
dwidmannkedit is probably closer to notepad really05:51
JucatoKate > Kwrite (simplified Kate) > Kedit05:51
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Admiral_Chicagovim ftw...not05:52
Jucato:p05:52
Jucatonano, vim, emacs...05:52
Dr_williscream, fte, mcedit,05:54
Dr_willisscite05:54
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Admiral_Chicagoman i just log into a terminal and don't use a GUI05:54
Admiral_Chicagopshh, who needs X05:54
Admiral_Chicagojust kidding05:54
Dr_willisfte is a very nice editor for the console05:55
Dr_willis:)05:55
Admiral_Chicagoi'll keep that in mind05:55
Admiral_Chicagobbl05:55
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bibek_hi05:56
bibek_i could see exactly when the problem started since the message covered my screen very fast05:57
bibek_the errors were like this05:57
bibek_370:4c/0a,   371:44/40, 372:52/75 .......................05:57
bibek_and other similar numbers05:58
bibek_any idea05:58
bibek_?05:58
Admiral_Chicagobibek_: when did this start?05:58
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Dr_willistheres a big differance between 'errors' and 'warnings/information'  :)05:58
Dr_willisdmesg - may show some info on the specifics05:58
bibek_well lets say its unknown text05:58
thelinuxguybibek: they were *just* numbers, no text beside them ?05:58
bibek_no05:58
bibek_there were 5 columns with plenty of rows filling my whole screen05:59
bibek_it started before my hd check05:59
bibek_yes there was test05:59
Admiral_Chicagobibek_: might be a improperly configured X. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if it is05:59
bibek_at the last05:59
bibek_it said05:59
bibek_Not Automatically fixing this05:59
Admiral_Chicagobut i'll leave you to these fine gents. i have to go05:59
thelinuxguybibek: I'm sorry, I've never seen that happening before...05:59
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SharkPaulhi to all06:00
gothard_root@gothard-laptop:~# tail -f /var/log/dmesg06:00
SharkPauland happy new year06:00
bibek_it shouldn't be x coz x starts only after it has mounted my hdisks and all06:00
gothard_[17179591.376000]  lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).06:00
thelinuxguyBibek: are you *sure* you don't have problems with your harddisk or partition ?06:00
gothard_[17179591.428000]  SCSI subsystem initialized06:00
gothard_[17179591.440000]  ieee1394: sbp2: Driver forced to serialize I/O (serialize_io=1                            )06:01
bibek_well its causing no problem yet06:01
gothard_[17179591.440000]  ieee1394: sbp2: Try serialize_io=0 for better performance06:01
bibek_no i dont06:01
gothard_[17179591.492000]  fuse init (API version 7.6)06:01
gothard_[17179591.528000]  Adding 714852k swap on /dev/disk/by-uuid/055ab876-2f67-4c4f-83                            ad-8d6ba622c454.  Priority:-1 extents:1 across:714852k06:01
gothard_[17179591.600000]  EXT3 FS on hda3, internal journal06:01
gothard_[17179591.696000]  NET: Registered protocol family 1706:01
gothard_[17179592.648000]  NET: Registered protocol family 1506:01
gothard_[17179594.232000]  serial8250: too much work for irq406:01
gothard_why did i have it?06:01
bibek_i can access them all, ah06:01
Admiral_Chicago!paste | gothard_06:01
ubotugothard_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:01
bibek_thelinuxguy: wait i might have problem06:01
bibek_thelinuxguy: sometimes my root partitioned HD doesn't get detected by bios so i have to restart06:01
bibek_thelinuxguy: is it dieing?06:01
SharkPaulCould anybody help me?06:02
dwidmannprobably06:02
bibek_thelinuxguy: and one of the pins in its ide port just broke :-(06:02
Xen0land plz which program can work wwith virtual drives and images audner linux?06:02
thelinuxguybibek: I can't tell that from here, of course, but it strikes me as odd...06:02
dwidmannbibek_: broken pins aren't good06:02
thelinuxguybibek: I think you just solved your problem....06:03
bibek_dwidmann: yeap, i know, will backup by files tonight,06:03
bibek_thelinuxguy: wow im genius :-D, anyways, have no other functional problems yet06:03
SharkPaulbibek_:can you help me?06:03
bibek_SharkPaul: whats ur problem,06:04
thelinuxguybibek: just make sure you backup your stuff a.s.a.p. !06:04
bibek_SharkPaul: we're all here to ease ur pain06:04
SharkPaulwell,when i insert an audio cd in my pc06:04
bibek_thelinuxguy: yeah06:04
SharkPauland I go in the mount point of the cd06:04
SharkPaulIt seems there arent any files!06:04
SharkPaulWhy?06:05
dwidmannprobably isn't mounted06:05
Xen0l!virtual drive06:05
bibek_SharkPaul: u should mount it first06:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about virtual drive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:05
SharkPaulno,it's mounted06:05
bibek_SharkPaul: r u sure?06:05
SharkPaulbecouse with data cd this doesn't happen06:05
SharkPaulhow can I control if a device is mounted?06:05
dwidmannSharkPaul: might as well double check, pull up konsole and put this in: mount /media/cdrom06:06
bibek_SharkPaul: well in my kubuntumoster, if i dont click Open, then it wouldn't mount06:06
bibek_SharkPaul: yeah please follow dwidmann06:06
SharkPaulNo,the Cd is mounted06:06
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thelinuxguySharkPaul: you just can't mount audio-cd's, you just play them :-)06:07
thelinuxguyfire up any cd-playing program and press "play"...06:07
SharkPaulThis is normal,but in the folder there doesn't appears any file06:07
SharkPaulthelinuxguy:i 've just tried06:07
thelinuxguyand ?06:08
SharkPauland when I've runned Amarok06:08
dwidmannafter mounting, there is a neat virtual toy in the audio cd folder, you can drag and drop the folders (each having the name of a different audio format), and it will automatically rip & encode them :)06:08
SharkPaulIt said:06:08
SharkPaulone moment...06:08
bibek_i thought fstab was the solution to all the worlds mounting problems06:08
bibek_but with USB , fstab is not so useful06:08
thelinuxguyno bibek; audio files are not regular files and therefore you can't "mount" a music cd...06:09
SharkPaulno,it's solved!06:09
SharkPaulstrange,but it's so06:09
SharkPaul:P06:09
bibek_thanks guys06:09
dwidmannand how was it solved SharkPaul06:10
thelinuxguyyour're most welcome....06:10
bibek_its strange but its true, i also didn't see any files on the cd06:10
bibek_either06:10
SharkPaulthanx for the (littlesupport,06:10
thelinuxguy:-P06:10
bibek_but with rightclick the cdrom folder and click play, its solved06:10
SharkPaulyes,if I play the cd,it's solved06:10
bibek_how to mount usb media?06:10
SharkPaulbut if I want to see the files in the cd,it isn't possible06:11
SharkPaulwhy?06:11
dwidmannIt *should* do that for you automatically bibek_, else, it's probably going to mount as /dev/sd?#06:11
SharkPaulso,i must go06:12
bibek_dwidmann: yeah but say i just want to mount usb and not open in knoqueror06:12
dwidmann(the letter and the number will differe, for me it's sdc1)06:12
SharkPaulThanx again06:12
bibek_dwidmann: i want to do this for cdroms too06:12
SharkPaulBye06:12
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eMaXhi all06:12
kraut!xgl06:13
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems06:13
bibek_dwidmann: if i switch to fluxbox, i have to go to xterm and do pmount /dev/sda06:13
dwidmann*nod*06:13
eMaXanyone knows how to copy a vcd with ubuntu?06:14
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HymnToLifeeMaX, define "copy"...06:14
dwidmannI'm wondering why KDe isn't automounting it for you though bibek, that's weird ...06:14
eMaXwrite from cd rom to a .iso file and then later write back06:14
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dwidmanneMaX: if it can be done, the best place to look would be k3b06:14
bibek_dwidmann: it automounts alright06:15
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bibek_dwidmann: but i use fluxbox sometimes, so mounting is pain in the a**06:15
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eMaXk3b apparently cannot do it06:16
thelinuxguybibek: please type "man mount" in a terminal to learn howto mount a disk.... any disk ! :-)06:16
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soulridersometimes my hard drive light stays on and kubuntu freezes, i cant even move the mouse, restart x or anything. Any ideas ?06:16
bibek_thelinuxguy: mount only mounts for entries in fstab or by becoming root i can do mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda106:16
bibek_thelinuxguy: or something similar06:17
bibek_thelinuxguy: but like kde does, its really cool06:17
thelinuxguyeMax: k3b can copy anything I trow at it here... what's youre prob ?06:17
bibek_thelinuxguy: it mounts my USB stick to /media/BIBEK since label is BIBEK06:17
eMaXI have a video cd (vcd) and it cannot copy it apparently06:17
thelinuxguybibik; right...06:17
eMaX(not a dvd)06:17
dwidmann!uuid06:17
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)06:17
HymnToLifeeMaX, just dump an ISO using dd06:18
dwidmannmaybe it will let you do it with the uuid .... hmmmm06:18
HymnToLifeans burn it with k3b06:18
HymnToLifeand*06:18
bibek_ok, leave this anyways06:18
bibek_one last question06:18
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eMaXwell doesn't work Input/output error06:20
eMaXseems to have 2 tracks, one short one of 2 megs and a 450 meg one06:20
thelinuxguybibek: I'm getting hungry, please post you're question....06:20
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dwidmannhaha thelinuxguy .... thanks for reminding me that I was hungry too ...06:20
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bibek_thelinuxguy: wont keep u hungry for long06:20
thelinuxguy:-P06:21
bibek_thelinuxguy: :-) when i put my usb stick, i get the KDE Daemon with options06:21
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bibek_thelinuxguy: Open in New Window, Digikam and Do Nothing06:21
eMaXbibek_ wow. I even get it twice06:21
ubuntuyeeeey06:21
ubuntufirst time linux06:21
bibek_thelinuxguy: if i dont click Open in New Window it wont mount06:21
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Xen0li have downloaded tar.bz2 of FF2 how need i install it? ./configure, make and make-install ?06:21
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bibek_thelinuxguy: but i dont use Konqueror, i use krusader06:22
thelinuxguybibek: that's normal...06:22
dwidmannbibek_: even if I click open in new window it doesn't like to mount sometimes ...06:22
bibek_thelinuxguy: so is there a way i can put Mount option so that the device is just mounted06:22
thelinuxguyI'm using krusader too.... ;-)06:22
dwidmannflakey06:22
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dwidmannbibek_: I remember there is a way to change the default file manager if you want to, can't recall how, the all knowing google surely knows, I've consulted google for that before ;)06:23
thelinuxguybibek: is your usb device listed in fstab ?06:23
bibek_nop06:23
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eMaXif damn skype would support video conferences I could convince everyone here to stop using windoze. I hate installing xp just for that.06:23
ubuntu_yeeehaaaaaaaaaaaa06:23
thelinuxguyadd it to fstab and the system will mount it for you if you're define "auto"06:23
ubuntu_i like linux06:24
ubuntu_but it seems to hate me06:24
bibek_thelinuxguy: yeah that seems decent option, then i can mount umount using krusader itself06:24
ubuntu_or my computer06:24
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thelinuxguybibek: right on....06:24
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ubuntu_got no sound, computer is laming, all my data lost,...06:25
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eMaXubuntu_ so you are happy you got a backup06:25
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bibek_thelinuxguy: but that will give problem, coz some hardwares have sda and some have sda1 for the usb disk06:25
ubuntu_right06:25
hinorkit's italian channel of kubuntu?06:26
thelinuxguybibek: use in fstab a line like : (example) /dev/sda1 /media/extern_data  auto  auto,users,owner,rw 0 006:26
HymnToLife!it | hinork06:26
ubotuhinork: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:26
ubuntu_well.. im going to hack my self right now06:26
hinorkthanks very much06:26
ubuntu_have a got time! cza!06:26
thelinuxguybibek: you use different usb sticks ?06:26
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bibek_yeah06:27
bibek_i got a mp3 player and a usb drive06:27
[GuS] Hi guys!... which tool i could use to convert .uif images files to .iso.. or just extract it?06:28
thelinuxguybibek: so define a line in fstab for *both*, no prob I'm sure ?06:28
bibek_thelinuxguy: yeah, im just a little lazy, hehe06:28
esaymanyone got a good website for grub commands? i need to disable acpi and apm and stuff like that06:29
thelinuxguydone the same thing here on this machine and it works like a charm....06:29
bibek_thelinuxguy: everything is fine in kde, works like charm, but since im on either xfce or fluxbox most of the time, i have hell of a time mounting the drives06:29
esaymafter my machine boots the kernel it reboots.... :(06:29
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thelinuxguyso, don't use xfce or fluxbox and you're problem is over ! :-)06:29
esaymim thinking disable acpi but i dont know how to pass the commands to grub06:30
thelinuxguyjust kidding, bibek... :-)06:30
bibek_thelinuxguy: hehe i have p3 with 384 mb ram and i need to run tomcat and eclipse at the same time06:30
bibek_thelinuxguy: u can imagine :-D06:31
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thelinuxguyesaym: just add -noacpi in your kernel options line06:31
eMaXbibek_ thou shalt forget about that06:31
esaymwhere do i add it?06:31
Xen0lplz wat commands i need to write in konsole in order to isntall firefox 2 from tarball?06:31
thelinuxguybibek: I can see you're problem....06:31
esaympress "e" or something at the grub menu?06:31
thelinuxguybibek: didn't santa-claus bring you a new pc ? ;-)06:32
Xen0l!installing from tarball06:33
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esaymwell brb06:33
bibek_thelinuxguy: yeah but hes smart as hell and asks for money, i dont have any :-(06:33
bibek_well guys nice having conversation with you06:33
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bibek_in my part of the world its 11:20pm so i need to doze off06:34
bibek_gnit all06:34
thelinuxguybibel: good night...06:34
thelinuxguybibek: i'm going to diner now... :-)06:34
thelinuxguylinux guy signing off.06:35
Xen0lplz can someone gimme advices about hot to install FF 2 from tar.bz?06:35
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bibek_Xen0l:06:36
bibek_why r u compiling06:36
bibek_u can get the binary in tar.bz from getfirefox06:36
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bibek_Xen0l: ??06:37
Xen0li dl it and wat next?06:37
bibek_did u extrace it?06:37
bibek_tar -xvf filename.tar.bz06:37
Xen0lnot yet06:37
Xen0lwat else? ./configure and make and last make-install?06:38
bibek_Xen0l: what is the filename? i think u might have binary version06:39
bibek_try ./firefox06:39
Xen0lfilename is firefox-2.0.0.1.tar.gz06:39
Xen0li extracted but how do i need to install it?06:39
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bibek_Xen0l: did u do ./firefox06:40
Xen0lnop06:40
bibek_Xen0l: or as i remember ./firefox-bin06:40
bibek_Xen0l: try it06:40
aloyarcyes, yes, yes, artrage2 works under wine in kubuntu edgy06:40
Xen0lno such file for ./firefox-bin06:40
Xen0land firefox is folder for ./firefox06:40
bibek_go inside firefox06:41
Xen0lbibek_  i extracted it and need to install how to do it? not make and make-install?06:41
bibek_Xen0l: wait a minute06:41
bibek_Xen0l: let me search06:41
Xen0lk06:41
bibek_Xen0l: i think u have downloaded a binary package06:41
bibek_Xen0l: not a source package06:42
bibek_Xen0l: so there is already a firefox executable06:42
bibek_Xen0l: no need to compile06:42
bibek_Xen0l: can u confirm that?06:42
Xen0li donwloaded from www.mozilla.org06:42
bibek_Xen0l: go inside the folder and see if there is any file called firefox06:42
Xen0lyel06:43
Xen0lyep is06:43
bibek_Xen0l: run the file06:43
ubuntuare there anybody from turkey06:44
Xen0lbibek_ nothing happens06:44
aloyarcUbuntu i can find someone06:44
bibek_Xen0l: goto konsole06:44
bibek_Xen0l: go inside firefox folder06:44
Xen0li am in folder of FF06:44
bibek_Xen0l: type ./firefox06:44
bibek_Xen0l: what does it say?06:45
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Xen0lfirefox is opened06:45
bibek_Xen0l: ?? is it working??06:45
Xen0lyes06:45
aloyarcinstalling windows firefox on a linux system ?  why ?06:45
Xen0llol no06:45
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Xen0li am DL tar.bz from i686 linux06:46
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bibek_Xen0l: what do u mean by firefox is opened?06:46
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Xen0lpage opened06:46
Xen0li can vies webn06:47
Xen0lview web06:47
aloyarcUbuntu try ubuntu-tr06:47
Xen0l!tr06:47
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.06:47
Xen0l!hu06:47
ubotuHa magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu06:47
Xen0l!sk06:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:47
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bibek_Xen0l: so that means firefox works06:48
bibek_Xen0l: ??06:48
Xen0lyeah06:48
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ubuntuturkeyyyyyy06:48
bibek_Xen0l: ur problem solved?? Congrats06:48
Xen0li want to know how can i add it to kmenu under internet?06:48
Xen0lbibek_ ty06:48
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bibek_Xen0l: :-) ahhh should have said that earlier06:48
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bibek_Xen0l: u should do that manually,06:49
Xen0lbibek_ i will write and tell me if t is possible06:49
Xen0li will DL 1.5.0.9 from apt-get isntall firefox06:49
bibek_Xen0l: rightclick any item on the menu and click "Edit Menu"06:49
bibek_Xen0l: KDE Menu Editor will open06:49
bibek_Xen0l: following me?06:50
Xen0lyea06:50
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bibek_Click Internet06:50
bibek_goto File > New Item06:50
bibek_Type Firefox as ItemName06:50
bibek_in right side, in Command browse for the extracted folder/firefox file06:51
bibek_and firefox should be there in the menu06:51
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bibek_Xen0l: does it work?06:52
Xen0lyes06:52
Xen0lbut that firefox fodler must be in my home fodler?06:52
bibek_Xen0l: happy?06:52
Xen0laint it possible to move it to /?06:52
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bibek_yeah, but why?06:52
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bibek_Xen0l: does anyone else use the computer?06:53
ubuntuk'mse varmi06:53
Xen0lyes06:53
Xen0lusing one account06:53
Xen0lfor all06:53
bibek_Xen0l: you can put it in /opt06:53
bibek_and change the permission06:53
Xen0lbibek_ i want to know it is possible to update isntalled 1.5.0.9 FF though adept update somehow to FF2 or not06:54
bibek_yeah ofcourse06:54
bibek_that is the best way,06:54
Xen0lbut how06:54
Xen0l?06:54
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bibek_Xen0l: sudo apt-get update firefox06:55
Xen0lbut in apedt i cant see version 2.0.0.1 only 1.5.0.9 aitn in official repos06:55
bibek_Xen0l: wait let me check06:55
bibek_Xen0l: what is ur kubuntu version?06:56
Xen0l6.06.106:56
bibek_did u update?06:56
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Xen0li DL iamge and made fresh isntall no update or anything06:56
bibek_Xen0l: well i have 6.10 and firefox 2 is by default06:56
bibek_oh wait then06:56
Xen0li have problems isntalling 6.1006:57
ChousukeXen0l: Why do you need 2.0?06:57
ChousukeDapper's 1.5 works just fine.06:57
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Xen0lchousuke mayb cause i am used to it want to use new features06:57
Chousukeif you want a newer one, you should update to edgy.06:57
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ChousukeXen0l: Hm.06:58
intelikeydappers foomatic-db is broken06:58
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ChousukeMost of the new features on 2.0 are not visible to the user though.06:58
bibek_Xen0l: can u do sudo apt-get update06:58
Xen0lbibek_ ofc gimme few sec06:58
Xen0lsecs06:58
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bibek_Chousuke: FF2 does sound cool, 1.5 sounds ol :-)06:59
ChousukeXen0l: If you want to have a stable Ubuntu system, you must learn to live with the fact that you won't always have the latest and the greatest.06:59
Chousukeinstalling packages from outside the distro introduces potential instability and "taints" the distribution.07:00
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bibek_Chousuke: Drapper doesn't have FF2 in main repos?07:00
Chousukethat's correct, as far as I know.07:00
Chousuke!info firefox07:00
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 28588 kB07:00
intelikey!ff07:00
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins07:00
Chousukehmm07:01
bibek_Chousuke: ah, i use edgy so i didn;t know07:01
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Chousuke!info firefox dapper07:01
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.8-0ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 7746 kB, installed size 22952 kB07:01
Xen0lbibek_  update done and no new updates avaiable07:01
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Chousukeyeah, dapper has 1.5.0.807:01
bibek_hmmmmm07:01
intelikeyand 2.007:01
Chousukewith security updates, of coutse.07:01
Chousukecourse*07:01
intelikeysee the link on latest07:01
Xen0lany repo from mozilla.org?07:01
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intelikeysee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion  <^07:02
Chousukehm07:02
Chousukethat method looks unclean07:02
Chousukeand you lose automatic updates.07:02
Chousukewhich is a bad thing.07:03
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intelikeywhich is a bad thing.   IF  the installed version is faulty    but a good thing when the update breaks things  as has happened many times.07:03
Xen0lwhy the f*** devs cant do .deb of firefox 2 on dapper?07:03
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ChousukeXen0l: because dapper's versions are frozen07:04
Chousukethere will be no new versions of software for it.07:04
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bibek_ah07:04
Xen0lso they only making for edgy ?07:04
Chousukeyeah.07:04
intelikeyno07:04
Chousukethough edgy is frozen now too.07:04
Xen0li would like have edgy too07:04
bibek_Chousuke: no kidding?07:04
intelikeyfor the newer fisty07:04
Xen0lbut problem is i cant isntall07:05
Chousukeyou can "backport" packages, but that's unofficial usually07:05
ChousukeXen0l: can't you upgrade dapper to edgy?07:05
Chousukewhat happens?07:05
bibek_what if u download firefox2 .deb for edgy and dpkg it?07:05
Xen0lif i try to instal it from live cd and installion starts my monitor turns off and and when i cpress something it again turns on and isntallation crashed07:05
Xen0lso afaik i dont know wat to do07:06
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Xen0li wans thinking about afresh isntall of dapper07:06
Xen0lno codecs, no isntalling into it07:06
intelikeyuse the alternate install cd07:06
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Chousukeare w32codecs even needed nowadays?07:07
Xen0lalternate is possible to isntall from USB?07:07
Chousukesince vlc and mplayer support wmv anyway07:07
intelikeynever were needed07:07
Xen0li dont use vlc or mplayer07:07
Chousukewhat do you need nonfree codecs for anymore.07:07
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ChousukeXen0l: well, totem should support them too.07:07
Chousukeor whatever you use.07:07
Xen0lhh i am using kaffeine07:07
Xen0land i dont like GNOME07:08
Xen0lso nothing from ti07:08
Xen0lit07:08
Chousukethough I don't know if the support is in Dapper yet.07:08
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apokryphosxine can play almost anything07:08
apokryphosand recent versions of ffmpeg can play wmv 907:08
Xen0ldapper is LTS version07:08
Chousukeapokryphos: yeah.07:08
Xen0lso it should be till 200907:08
apokryphosall the info is on the RestrictedFormats page07:09
apokryphosXen0l: yeah, but in 2009 it will be ooooold news =)07:09
apokryphoswell, dapper is already old news :P07:09
Xen0lso one question if devs dont make deb for dapper how can be dapper LTS?07:09
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apokryphosLTS = Long Term Support07:09
intelikeyapokryphos yes 6 months old    that's ancient07:10
Xen0lit is for security updates?07:10
apokryphosit will get security fixes and maybe large bugfixes07:10
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Xen0lah07:10
apokryphosintelikey: exactly; it hurts =)07:10
intelikeylol07:10
apokryphoseven edgy hurts ;-)07:10
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Xen0ledgy is old too? :p07:10
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intelikeyan i was just considering installing hoary over the top of dapper so my printer would work07:11
apokryphosjust kidding. Edgy is ok, if not entirely solid enough.07:11
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Xen0laint edgy kinda buggy?07:11
apokryphosintelikey: yeouch. Hoary is crazy old :)07:11
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Ash-FoxGah, I can't remember what that command was for setting 'default' alsa devices (the device that takes first place). I know there is a method todo it via asound.conf and kernel module tricks, but I'm pretty sure I used a command in the past. I can't remember what it was07:11
apokryphosXen0l: I'd say it wasn't a great release, but it did have its share of good things.07:11
intelikeyyeah over a year07:11
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Xen0lso if i want stable system i should use dapper?07:12
apokryphosedgy isn't that unstable. It's just not great to upgrade to (problematic for quite a few), and a little rough around the edges07:12
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apokryphosit's good enough to use though, for sure07:13
Xen0lso someone tell me07:13
Xen0lforget about dapper and move to edgy?07:13
apokryphossure, why not07:13
intelikeybut the way i look at it as long as the software is newer than the hardware why upgrade,    and if the software is crap because it is a version or two behind the latest, then why should one think the latest to be any good; for surely in a few days it's makers will be calling it crap also....07:13
apokryphosbackup your relevant stuff and upgrade (if you're brave) or fresh install07:13
fyrewolhello07:14
apokryphosintelikey: so never upgrade =)07:14
Xen0lwith upgrading dapper to edgy can be problems?07:14
apokryphosintelikey: newer doesn't always necessitate less stable07:14
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apokryphosXen0l: yes. You're safer if you follow the guide completely07:14
fyrewolDoes anyone know any good programs for file sharing on Kubuntu?07:15
apokryphosI did it and it was fine, but there have been a few problems around07:15
intelikeyno but older doesn't by default mean worth less either07:15
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vbgunzanybody here use karamba? what the hell do you do with it? I've man karamba and karamba --help-all  and it has got to be the most pointless help ever :(07:15
Xen0lwat kinds of problems?07:15
apokryphosubotu: info superkaramba07:15
ubotusuperkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 515 kB, installed size 1408 kB07:15
vbgunzI just want weather on my panel *but* I'll settle if I can get it on my desktop07:15
apokryphosvbgunz: eyecandy, basically.07:15
vbgunznot superkaramba07:15
apokryphosXen0l: /topic07:15
apokryphosvbgunz: karamba is an older version of superkaramba07:15
vlad_rihello, everybody! Happy New Year!07:16
vbgunzoh, really I thought it was dead07:16
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dwidmannsuperkaramba = an app to display python scriptable desktop widgets07:16
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HymnToLife!superkaramba07:16
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org07:16
Xen0lapokryphos: i know wat i will do remove everything, sell PC and i will have no problems :p07:17
vbgunzanybody know where I can get more panel applets? I tried kdetoys *but* the weather applet there is dead :(07:17
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apokryphospython scriptable, but the themes themselves don't require you knowing python (necessarily)07:17
vlad_rican someone help me? i have a problem with the screen resolution...07:17
apokryphosvbgunz: well, what are you looking for?07:17
apokryphosvlad_ri: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic07:17
HymnToLifeno, you can download premade ones07:17
intelikeyok this is another (hopefully less offencive) way of saying the same thing.     software does not decay with age, contrary to popular belief.  :)07:17
fyrewolhow do I download and install superkaramba07:17
HymnToLifebut knowing a bit helps to tweak them to your needs :)07:17
angasuleintelikey: what? bit rot is real!07:17
dwidmannhttp://www.kde-look.org07:18
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apokryphossuperkaramba is in the repos07:18
apokryphosuse adept to install it from there07:18
apokryphosubotu: adept07:18
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto07:18
vbgunzI would like a weather applet... the one that comes in kdetoys is broken, it keeps complaining no station found... so, I'll settle for weather on the desktop and kde-look led me to karamba... but I man and begged for help and that was pointless :(07:18
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apokryphosvbgunz: kicker comes with a built-in kweather; don't think that's from kdetoys...07:18
dwidmannvbgunz: look up liquidweather, if you don't mind having it on the desktop07:18
HymnToLifevbgunz, just sudo apt-get install superkaramba07:18
apokryphosvbgunz: past that, SK is of course the most popular with LW07:18
vlad_rii run kubuntu 6.10. when it starts the logon screen is in the lowest resolution, then after logon it change to my default 1280x102407:18
HymnToLifeand then install your applet in it07:19
vbgunzI just installed superkaramba07:19
vbgunzI hope it isn't as ill as the other07:19
vbgunzone sec07:19
vlad_rihow can i change this behavior, that it start with the default 1280x1024?07:19
apokryphosvlad_ri: in the X configuration remove all resolutions apart from the one that you want07:19
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HymnToLife!resolution | vlad_ri07:19
ubotuvlad_ri: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:19
vbgunzahh... superkaramba actually does something :)07:19
intelikeyso is there any chance that the broken database in foomatic-db dapper  will be patched ?07:20
vbgunzapokryphos, kweather didn't come with kubuntu-desktop... I got from kdetoys07:20
apokryphosvbgunz: kweather is part of kicker. Right-click -> add to panel07:20
vbgunzI would much rather have my weather in the panel but I guess the desktop is fine too07:20
vbgunzapokryphos, it wasn't available and is the only reason I went looking for something to enhance it... I found kdetoys07:21
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apokryphoshm, ok07:21
intelikeyvbgunz kde has a wether feed in it's taskbar by default    no?07:22
intelikeyweather  that is.07:22
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intelikeycould add  wmweather or wmweather+  to that also07:23
intelikeykweather - weather display applet for KDE07:23
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vbgunzintelikey, no, I wish it did, I went nuts looking for it... its the only reason I went to kdetoys for it, then it shows up but it's broke, so that led me to karamba which led me here07:23
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intelikeywell kubuntu may not   but kde does07:24
apokryphosubotu: info kweather07:24
ubotukweather: weather display applet for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1213 kB, installed size 2268 kB07:24
apokryphosdoesn't look like that's attached to kdetoys07:24
dwidmannkweather is a dependency of the kdetoys metapackage07:25
vbgunzim new to kde07:25
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angasulekweather has been broken for at least a year07:26
angasuleI'm pretty sure I filed a bug on it, but I guess it's not a priority07:26
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soulrider!es07:28
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.07:28
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intelikeyangasule hmmm what's broken about it ?07:28
gaki333hi every body07:28
gaki333i need your help07:28
vbgunzman if it aint one thing it's another :(07:29
soulridergaki333: whats up ?07:29
gaki333about some problems when i launch any programs as kate07:29
angasuleintelikey: it doesn't work? I mean, you select where you are, and nothing happens07:29
gaki333i have in konsole the error07:29
gaki333Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server07:29
gaki333Xlib: No protocol specified07:30
vbgunzI click install on the superkaramba install for liquidweather and it takes me to a webpage with nothing else todo :(07:30
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gaki333kdeinit: Can't connect to the X Server.07:30
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gaki333kdeinit: Might not terminate at end of session.07:30
gaki333Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server07:30
gaki333Xlib: No protocol specified07:30
gaki333kded: cannot connect to X server :0.007:30
gaki333DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-6910' to 'kded'07:30
gaki333kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.07:30
gaki333but kate works07:30
intelikeyangasule never had that problem here.   have you tried selecting from the list ?07:30
dwidmannvbgunz: one sec, I'll grab a download link for ya ;)07:30
gaki333so any idea ?07:31
intelikeyyou may have to select something near but not exactly where you are.   not all locations have a noah feed   (or simular)07:31
vbgunzdwidmann, I got it but Konquerer insist it immediately opens the link in kate... seriously, whats up with that? no choice :(07:31
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dwidmannThat's odd, it did that to me before once too, forget how I dealt with that07:32
angasuleintelikey: I go to 'Weather Service' and add my city, click on 'update all', it updates the little icon (to rain, which is obviously wrong) but in 'Display' I get nothing new07:32
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intelikeyhmmm07:32
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vbgunzonly firefox insisted on opening it... I think the links at the site might be at fault too as firefox did open one of the mirrors right in the browser but konq, opened all of them in kate :(07:33
stivani!wireless me07:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wireless me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:34
intelikeyangasule you are in  ARGENTINA ?   does your city have a public service weather feed  ?07:34
dwidmannhttp://www.message.co.nz/~matt-sarah/lwp-13.5.1.skz07:34
HymnToLifestivani, just pm the bot07:34
angasuleintelikey: I have no idea, but why is the city on the list if there is no feed?07:34
angasuleintelikey: I also don't see how to manually add a feed (not that I would know where to find one)07:35
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intelikeyangasule select us new york city    and see if it works.... at least that will tell you if the app is working correctly or not07:35
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manchickenWhere is the global KDE menu stored?07:36
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dwidmannvbgunz: wget this url - http://www.message.co.nz/~matt-sarah/lwp-13.5.1.skz07:36
intelikeymanchicken /usr/share/kde3/something iirc07:36
vbgunzdwidmann, thanks man, I already got through firefox, now I need imagemagick07:36
manchickenNo kde3 path...07:36
intelikeykde* then07:36
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angasuleintelikey: I added NY and now I get to select my own city on the 'display' (but NY is not available), the weather report is not my city's (maybe NY's?)07:37
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manchickenI'm installing some games from source for my wife.07:38
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manchickenTrying to put them in the games menu for her.07:38
intelikeyyeah angasule maybe   temp about 0 C07:38
angasuleintelikey: now I added doha, and now instead of just my city, I have my city, NY and doha, basically, the applet is screwed up07:38
angasuleintelikey: nope, I was getting 16C07:38
manchickenkmenuedit doesn't work for the global menu.07:38
intelikey16C != ny today07:39
lauthiamkoktesting07:39
intelikeylauthiamkok beep.07:39
lauthiamkok:)07:39
angasuleintelikey: now I can get what I guess is the proper weather for NY, but my city's weather is bogus, it says 16C and storms, and there's a clear sky and 32C07:40
angasuleintelikey: the fact that I have to add extra cities, accept the config, open config, select my city on display, remove other cities, close config, shows that the applet is broken, even beyond the feed issues there might be07:41
intelikeyangasule that sounds more like the location selected at fault than the polling app   you should see if you can find out more about your local public services     a weather app relies solely on public service postings/feeds  for it's info.07:41
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soulrideri find wather applets/widgets to be rather useless.... =/07:42
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angasulesoulrider: why? because they don't work?07:43
soulriderno, htey do work07:43
soulriderbut i just have no use for them07:43
soulrideri dont see the point of having them when you can just look outside your window: P07:43
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angasulesoulrider: my room is 20 meters away from the front door, and I can't go outside half-dressed to check the weather, can I? :P07:44
vbgunzsoulrider, can you look at your window today and tell whats it gonna be like on Friday? if so, give me handle so we can be best friends!07:45
vbgunzheh07:45
soulridervbgunz: i had mad weather forecast powers07:45
angasulesoulrider: just looking out the window doesn't tell much here, the sky can look the same whether it's 51C (31/12/06) or 25C07:45
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vbgunzoosome :)07:46
angasulevbgunz: even meteorologists can't tell that reliably for my city anyway :P07:46
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vbgunz:)07:46
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angasulethis city is on a line, sometimes we get the weather from the pampas, sometimes from the patagonia07:46
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angasuleand it's a very clear line, on the 31st, in less than a second it changed from a very light rain to a storm that tore down trees and went to cero visibility (I was driving at the time)07:48
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vbgunzfor those real familiar with superkaramba, I have a question... will all applets most likely have contradicting themes?07:49
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vbgunzcause the liquid weather applet is looking great... I never had a desktop applet this before :)07:49
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braddorois edgy able to write to an ntfs drive?07:51
unix_infidel!ntfs07:51
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse07:51
braddorothanks07:51
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apokryphosbraddoro: no07:51
apokryphosonly read07:51
angasulevbgunz: is liquid weather included in superkaramba?07:52
apokryphosno, but you can use the get new stuff button to get it07:53
vbgunzangasule, no07:53
vbgunzangasule, yeah, I had to click install, go to a web page, click on the download link and use superkaramba to open a theme... heh, or wget it from the link above07:54
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vbgunzhttp://www.message.co.nz/~matt-sarah/lwp-13.5.1.skz07:54
angasulevbgunz: thanks :)07:54
vbgunz:)07:55
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vbgunzanybody here use gnome? there is an applet that when you click on it, it turns into a crosshair and when you click on an app, it kills it on the spot... anything like that for KDE?07:55
lasometimes i like gnome07:56
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la;p07:56
unix_infidelvbgunz: xkill?07:57
unix_infidel!info xkill07:57
ubotuxkill: X client - xkill. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 60 kB07:57
adz21cvbgunz: depending on ur key set up ctrl+alt+esc07:57
unix_infideladz21c: that's not what he wants.07:57
adz21cok07:57
lawhen i instal my language package why i still have english07:57
vbgunzxkill?07:58
bankHello guy, I have some problem. Who can help me, please07:58
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vbgunzyeah xkill was it :)07:59
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vbgunzI killed my desktop too :(08:00
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vbgunzit seems there is no escape once it is set into motion :(08:00
unix_infideljust restart kde08:00
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unix_infidelno big deal.08:00
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dwidmanneasier option: pull up konsole: type kdesktop and hit enter08:01
vbgunzkdesktop did it!08:01
vbgunzman, I've been on Ubuntu for over a year... I swore by Gnome everyday... then, thanks to PCBSD, I saw the power in KDE. hence my upgrade from Gnome to KDE... still experimenting though08:02
vbgunzthanks fellas!08:02
dwidmannI still want to try pcbsd, it actually looks like something interesting08:02
vbgunzdwidmann, it's awesome imho, though this is what happened... the more I used it the more I fell in love with KDE. The more I fell in love the more I got scared...08:03
dwidmannhahaha08:04
angasulevbgunz: cool, got it working, it's great :)08:04
vbgunzI am just scared because I have a whole year+ of configs and work saved under Gnome... I am dreading moving it over and purging Gnome08:04
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vbgunzI mean KDE frigging rocks and you guys are all alright!08:04
dwidmannthe work should be easy to transfer, the configs might take longer to redo08:05
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vbgunzI am trying to redo my panels... I forgot the name of the Gnome app that bites the Mac entry bar... the one you enter text and get a popup of choices...08:07
vbgunzcurrently I found katapult08:07
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dwidmannkatapult is lovely08:09
vbgunzholy crap, my tomboy notes :O08:10
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dwidmannafter hitting alt+space you have somethign that can open any personal document/music/video/bookmark/etc file, a calculator, and a calculator all in one :)08:10
vbgunzheh08:11
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caminantebuenas tardes08:12
vbgunzfor the hackers, anyone know if it is possible to customize the icons on the desktop so that the text aligns to it's right? the same way you would see it in a file browser in detail view?08:12
vbgunzI ask because I beginning to think KDE can feed the poor :P08:12
vbgunzheh08:12
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dwidmannhahaha ... I don't know of any way of doing it08:13
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manchickenI still can't figure out how to change the global menu.  This is getting annoying.08:13
dwidmannglobal menu?08:14
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manchickenYeah.08:14
manchickenThe KDE menu for all users.08:14
aseigomanchicken: you need to edit the .menu files in the system dir.. which, if you look in /etc/kderc is in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/ for kubuntu08:15
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manchickenaseigo: Would doing a `KDEHOME='/usr/share/.../default' sudo kmenuedit` help me?08:17
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aseigomanchicken: hm... that should work, yes08:18
aseigoah, wait.. it might not anymore now that we use the .menu files08:19
aseigosince it'll store them in .config, etc...08:19
manchickenI see no .menu files in the kde-profile/default.08:19
aseigomanchicken: look in /ext/xdg/menus ...08:19
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manchickenOkay, that points me to kde-games.directory (trying to add an entry for a game), and kde-games.directory is empty.08:21
manchickenNothing but strings and icons defined.08:21
manchickenAnd I can't find a single piece of accurate documentation on this.08:23
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vbgunzI switched into Gnome, I am talking about Deskbar... Does Kubuntu have something like this?08:29
vbgunzor is katapult the deal here?08:30
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ebivenAnyone know how I get Kubuntu to stop updating my motd file for me?08:48
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fdovingebiven: edit /etc/motd.tail instead of /etc/motd directly.08:48
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deniswas ist denn das fr ein Deutsch??08:59
denisdas TOPIC????08:59
jewbileeHi, I accidently hit the menu bar while using amaroK, can anyone tell me how to bring it back?08:59
denisboah kotz08:59
zorglu_!de|denis08:59
ubotudenis: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:59
denis?08:59
denisaha08:59
zorglu_denis: i dont speak german :)09:00
denistrotzdem ist es falsches Deutsch09:00
denisok09:00
jewbileecan anyone help me?09:00
denissso who wrote it?09:00
deniswhatever09:00
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denisbut I also have a problem with the kicker09:00
zorglu_denis: the help sentence ? someone who did speak german :)09:00
zorglu_oh you can speak english :)09:00
zorglu_ok which one09:01
denisoff course09:01
zorglu_!anyone | jewbilee09:01
ubotujewbilee: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?09:01
denisyou can st it up so that it disappers after some time09:01
denisset it up09:01
zorglu_ok09:01
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zorglu_oh is that your question ?09:02
zorglu_you wanna know how to do it ?09:02
jewbileeWhile using amaroK, I accidently hit the menu bar, how do I bring it back09:02
denisand you can also set it up the way that it disappears but returns when your mouse goes over it, like in windows09:02
denisno, I want my kicker back! ;-)09:02
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denisisnt there a shortcut for the K like the windows key on the keyboard?09:03
zorglu_jewbilee: try 'ctrl+m'09:03
effoCtrl+M toggles the bar09:03
jewbileethank you09:03
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effovarsegod ;)09:03
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zorglu_denis: you set it up and now you can no more access it, correct ?09:04
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denisright09:04
denisctrl+M only works in this program09:04
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denisno, in konqueror too09:04
zorglu_i guess you tried putting the mouse close tto the usual location ?09:04
denisbut not on the desktop09:05
denissorry, I dont understand your assumption09:05
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zorglu_your kicker is usual at the bottom of the screen ?09:05
denisright09:05
denisI was there with the mouse, right09:06
zorglu_and nothing happened, i guess09:06
effodoes anybody know how to enable sub-pixel rasterisation in edgy?09:06
zorglu_do you see any arrow icon on the bottom/left/right of the screen ?09:06
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denisno09:06
dwidmanneffo, pull up systemsettings, go to appearance,->fonts09:06
dwidmannI think it's in there anyway effo09:07
zorglu_denis: another possibility would be to delog/relog in the hope it comes back, have you tried ?09:07
denisyes, I have09:07
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cavediverHello. I have ubuntu installed and wanted to try Kubuntu, so I installed the kubuntu-desktop package but the package wvdial refused to install ( I waited 10 min) It doesn't seem to work as the package depends on kubuntu-desktop and thus is not itself installed. Anyone have a possible solution ?09:07
denisit didn t help09:07
zorglu_pfff :)09:07
zorglu_ok let me think :)09:08
denisI have time ;-)09:08
effoI have tried it, its in the font settings, but when I use xdpyinfo it tells me the sub-pixel order is set to unknown :(09:08
zorglu_"ps auxwww| grep kicker" <- denis put this in a terminal and tell me if the process is running :)09:08
denisok, one second09:08
zorglu_!font | effo09:09
ubotueffo: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer09:09
deniswhat do you mean with "running" if it helped?09:09
denisthis is my result09:09
zorglu_effo: unsure it is related, but just in case it helps...09:10
denisdenis@Opteron:~$ ps auxwww| grep kicker09:10
denisdenis     5002  0.1  2.1  32764 16652 ?        S    17:06   0:15 kicker [kdeinit                                                           ] 09:10
denisdenis     5772  0.0  0.1   2924   828 pts/1    S+   21:09   0:00 grep kicker09:10
zorglu_denis: shoot09:10
zorglu_denis: ok the 5002, the first is the kicker process running09:10
denisah ok09:10
zorglu_so it is there, just it doesnt appears on the screen09:10
denisok09:10
denisit s nowhere09:11
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denisnot on the left, nor on the right nor on the left nor top09:11
denisthat sucks09:11
zorglu_ok here 2 possibiilities: 1. remove wildly the config of kicker to remove your setting 2. finding another cleaner way to change your setting09:11
effothe setting is on in my .fonts.conf but it look like the xserver doesn't care about it09:12
denisok, but I m a rookie, so how will I get a new config file?09:12
zorglu_denis: ok lets see about the second first09:12
denisok09:12
zorglu_denis: go in a terminal, launch "kcontrol"09:12
zorglu_denis: in kcontrol, choose "desktop->panel"09:12
denisdone09:12
zorglu_effo: it may require to relaunch x... so delog/relog or even reboot09:13
zorglu_denis: the goal is to set it up to make it appears again :)09:13
denishehe, your good ;-)09:14
zorglu_denis: thinking about it, the 'default' button may be good too09:14
effozorglu_: i believe i have tried that, but I will try once again09:14
zorglu_i know :):)))))09:14
denisah, good idea09:14
zorglu_effo: i remember having trouble when i setup the font at first09:15
deniswell, I pushed it09:15
zorglu_denis:  i havent told but the 'hiding' tab is the one interesting :)09:15
denisbut no kicker09:15
zorglu_and ?09:15
denishiding?09:15
zorglu_denis: ok you are in 'desktop->panel" ?09:16
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zorglu_denis: we will do it step by step09:16
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denisI am in the control center09:17
denisthank you09:17
zorglu_ok go in 'desktop->panel'09:18
zorglu_you should see 'tab' with 'arrengement/hiding/menus/appearance'09:18
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zorglu_on the right09:18
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effo*sigh* xdpyinfo still report 'sub-pixel order Unknown' :(09:19
xstI've just bought a new monitor that cannot handle the same display settings as my old monitor. How do I make (k)ubuntu re-probe my monitor and configure X accordingly?09:19
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denishmm09:20
zorglu_denis: still there ?09:20
denisis there something with kicker?09:20
denisyes09:20
denisbut I m not sure if its the same in german09:20
zorglu_ ok go in 'desktop->panel'09:20
denisi am there09:20
denis1., 2. or 3. tab?09:21
denisor later?09:21
zorglu_ok there is 4 tab "arrangement/hiding/menus/appearance". likely very similar word in german09:21
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zorglu_you want 'hiding'09:21
zorglu_the one which is controling the hiding/nonhiding of kicker09:21
denisaaahhhh I found it!09:22
zorglu_nice :)09:22
denishalelujah09:22
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zorglu_ok once you selected the 'hiding' tab, you press 'default' button and then you press 'apply'09:22
denisincrredible09:23
zorglu_and it should come back :)09:23
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denisyes right, thank you veryyy much09:23
zorglu_it worked ?09:23
denisyees!09:23
denis:-)09:23
zorglu_we did it ! :)09:23
zorglu_cool :)09:23
denisyou did it09:23
jerpxst, in a terminal enter:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:23
deniswell, as I said , I m new ;-.)09:24
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denisby trhe way09:24
denisas I am already here09:24
zorglu_denis: cool we are ehere to help09:24
denisdo you know easyubuntu?09:24
denisgreat job09:24
zorglu_denis:  i dont use it, but glad you like it :)09:25
deniswell09:25
xstjerp: But that forces me to enter a lot of stuff manually. Kubuntu usually detects these things itself automatically when booting from CD. Can't I make it discover the hardware again in the same way on a HD install?09:25
denisit should help to install these "problematic" drivers09:25
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denisI thoink yo know that09:25
denisyou09:25
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zorglu_i heard of it :) but it fails to find my drivers which are a lot more problematic:)09:26
zorglu_my graphic card is no more supported by ati :)09:26
denisyees, it also failed to install java09:26
denisupps, must be a new one ;-)09:26
denisaand09:27
jerpxst, I don't know if there is a process to recover something like that through a cd rescue09:27
deniswell, I dont know if it only failed to link the java plzugin to the browser or it completely failed09:28
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zorglu_denis:  i have looked at the java sutff for a while09:28
zorglu_!java09:28
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository09:28
zorglu_in theory it is explained here, i dunno how uptodate it is09:28
denisah, multiverse repository I think I should find that09:29
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notechdon't forget to restart the browser09:29
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denisbut how do I know if easy ubuntu failed to install java or only failed to link?09:29
denisok09:29
elrikhey09:29
denisyes?09:30
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zorglu_hmm09:30
zorglu_denis: 'dpkg -l java' <- will provide unclear output but a 'ii' at the begining mean 'installed'09:31
coreymon77its my birthday09:31
zorglu_and im wrong on this one :)09:31
zorglu_happy birthday coreymon77! :)09:31
coreymon77!!!09:31
elrikhappy birhtday corey09:31
coreymon77its also very close to my kbirthday09:33
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jerpcorey, congratulations, "almost a new years day baby"09:33
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CaBlGuYwuttup peeps..  oi/09:33
CaBlGuYO/09:33
CaBlGuY:p09:33
elrikhow old corey ?09:33
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zorglu_denis: " java -showversion" put that in a terminal, and see if it output somethin g09:33
zorglu_denis: if yes, java is installed09:34
CaBlGuYanyone know of a good BT client to use that don't crash..  :/09:34
coreymon77kbirthday being the day i started with kubuntu09:34
zorglu_CaBlGuY: azureus/ktorrent ?09:34
coreymon771609:34
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CaBlGuYzorglu_:  used both, both crash..09:34
CaBlGuYOh yea..09:34
denisjava version "1.4.2"09:34
zorglu_well try again :)09:34
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CaBlGuYwhats the deal with Falsh 9..   are they workin to make it stable or what?09:35
denisit  installed but I will try it later09:35
zorglu_denis: wow this seems pretty old. but at least you got ont09:35
zorglu_ont=one09:35
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denisI wiull comeback, see you later, thanks for your help09:35
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zorglu_denis: 1.5 is like 2 years old and 1.6 is out recently09:35
zorglu_denis: ok see ya :)09:35
denisyes in know09:35
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CaBlGuYanyone?09:35
zorglu_!flash909:36
ubotuflash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports09:36
denisits from easy ubuntu09:36
denisbye09:36
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zorglu_!info flash909:36
CaBlGuYyea, umm  I already know that zorglu_   I was wanting a more specific answer..   but thanks.. ;)09:36
ubotuPackage flash9 does not exist in any distro I know09:36
zorglu_i think you know too much for me :)09:36
CaBlGuYhehe09:36
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zorglu_see ya people :)09:36
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notechthat's the usual procedure of a beta, to continue to make it a stable09:37
ubuntuhello, im trying to install grub on my mbr to use a dual boot system, but what is wrong here -> http://rafb.net/p/fk5zTo68.html09:37
bobby__ubotu try gentoo :)09:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about try gentoo :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:37
cox377does anyone here have the fuji finepix F30 or similar fuji camara?09:37
bobby__can someone tell me how i can get the trash can on the desktop?09:37
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bobby__lol he even answerd me09:38
intelikeybobby__ drag and drop09:39
cox377bobby__: create a new location with 'trash:/' in the location field09:39
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cox377intelikey: that doesnt work under kubuntu does it?09:39
cox377fuji anyone?09:39
bobby__ok ty cox37709:39
intelikeycox377 yes09:40
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cox377doesnt work for me09:40
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intelikeydoes for me09:40
soulriderdoes anyone know of a good RPG for linux ?09:40
cox377intelikey: damn.. u boys running 6.10?09:41
cox377!camera09:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:41
cox377!fuji09:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fuji - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:41
intelikeycox377 6.6 here mate09:41
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intelikeysoulrider good  meh   wesnoth  teeters on the edge   there are others09:42
cox377intelikey: very weird, everytime i try to click n drag it just shows the trash options09:42
intelikeysoulrider apt-cache search game | less09:42
cox377i've just got a new camera, connected it via usb and when the folder opens which u would expect the images to be in it just has09:43
soulriderim so bored... i need some games...09:43
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soulrider i think i gonna have to install windou$09:43
cox377a folder within a folder * 100000 names 'usb ptp class camera' but no pirccies09:43
cox377intelikey: lol what u mean starts a gui?09:43
cox377soulrider: why so?09:44
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intelikeycox377 starts a gui means   ah starts a gui    what part of that is difficult to grasp ?09:44
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notechsounds like whatever app it is isn't configured for a ptp camera09:45
soulridercox377: i want to be able to play some games09:46
cox377intelikey: fair enough, but as of yet i havent run any apps without a gui.. and sarcasm is the lowest form of wit ; )09:46
soulriderand its impossible for me to get the linux versions of quake or UT09:46
cox377soulrider: got me there09:46
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cox377soulrider: why is it impossible?09:46
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soulriderbecuase they dont even sell windows games here :P let alone linux09:47
cox377here?09:47
notechthen what good does it do to install winodws either?09:47
intelikeycox377 you ought not accuse,  i wasn't being sarcastic.    i run a gui for two things.   if there should arise something that i can't seem to do in the console   or to answer someones question about it....  this is the second of those.09:47
soulridernotech: its easier to get copies of windows games ;)09:48
notechoh, i'm out of a piracy discussion09:48
cox377soulrider: where are you that makes it so difficult to get games?09:49
soulriderUruguay09:49
bobby__do pentium 3 processors have speedsteping?09:49
intelikeybobby__ cat /proc/cpuinfo09:49
cox377intelikey: what does your gui tell yah?09:50
bobby__intelikey: tnx09:50
intelikeytells me i didn't have kde installed yet on this box on this installation    but i'm getting there.09:51
soulrideranyone know if theres a loki installed for farcry? =/09:51
bobby__soulrider UT is no problem at all quake3 and quake4 are ported to linux too09:52
soulriderbobby__: yeah... but i cant get them09:53
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bobby__you need the windows cds/ dvds09:53
soulrideroh09:53
soulriderwell09:53
soulriderUT is boring ithout online play09:53
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bobby__you can play it online09:53
bobby__i do it all the time on linux09:53
soulrideryes.. if you bought it :P09:54
bobby__ut classic and ut200509:54
bobby__ut classic i have not bought09:54
bobby__ut2004 i do own09:54
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soulriderpparently theres a loki installer for knights of the old republic09:54
soulriderlet me find my ut 2004 CDs09:54
bobby__so your problem is that your cheap not whether linux suports it09:54
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soulriderno09:55
soulrideri CANT get them here09:55
soulriderthey dont sell PC games09:55
soulriderat least not original09:55
bobby__where is here?09:55
soulrider./whois soulrider09:55
intelikeyUruguay09:55
bobby__anyway there are no packages for it in ubuntu or am i blind?09:57
intelikeyit which ?09:57
bobby__ut09:57
bobby__and ut200409:58
soulriderdamn, i got ut 2003 not ut 200409:58
bobby__ut2003 is also ported to linux i think let me check09:58
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intelikeydoesn't seem to be in the repos09:58
soulriderut was ported i think09:58
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bobby__soulrider: yes ut2003 is ported too09:59
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soulrideri ant play online anyways10:00
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bobby__check www.unrealtournament.com/ut2003/downloads.html10:00
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soulrideri would install farcry but it will probably go berserk with wine and an nvidia card10:00
bobby__just download the installer and run it as root10:01
ctothejTrying to update apt-get and I get this: "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" Any suggestions?10:01
bobby__nvidia cards are well suported but im not a fan of running games in wine10:01
soulrideryes, i dont like the idea of wine either10:01
soulriderand farcry has trouble with nvidia cards10:01
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soulridermaybe ill try serious sam10:03
bobby__i had trouble with ati nd farcry10:03
soulriderit runs natively10:03
cox377intelikey: i've managed to get to the images by installing digikam but i really wanted it to act as a mass storage device like my other camara, so it just saw it was a flash device if you like10:03
soulrideri think im just gonna make room for windows10:03
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bobby__i use windthe ows for most games (not10:04
soulriderim in usch a bad mood today... sorry if i offended anyone todayt10:04
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bobby__i use windows for most games (not tn10:04
bobby__for fuck sake that keyboard is anoying10:05
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bobby__i use windows for most games (not the ported ones) and linux for serious stuff10:05
jerpsoulrider, if you can't buy UT2007.  I've got UT2003 and 2004, both are capable to be played on Linux and I'd send you mine if I had your address.   but you can buy UT2004 for $15 ....... on ebay10:05
intelikeysoulrider kudoes    good luck to your penguin    moods are like fecies  they pass.10:05
jerphttp://cgi.ebay.com/Unreal-Tournament-2004-Apple-Mac-OS-X-Game-LIKE-NEW_W0QQitemZ180069894679QQihZ008QQcategoryZ62053QQcmdZViewItem10:05
soulrideri went to bed at 7 am10:06
soulriderand my mom got me up before 1110:06
soulriderand tis SO hot here10:06
tiaxHow does KDE determine which charset it will use for filesystems? I have an XFS drive and can't enter directories that have German umlauts10:06
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soulrideri look like my sister with PMS10:06
soulriderjerp: i really dont wanna spend my savings on a game that i wont have too much time to play10:07
jerpthis one is @ $5 .......   http://cgi.ebay.com/Unreal-Tournament-2004-New_W0QQitemZ140070225239QQihZ004QQcategoryZ80328QQcmdZViewItem10:07
soulrideronce the summer is gone, i dont be able to play10:07
soulriderand10:08
soulriderwhat if they copied the CDs10:08
soulriderand still keep the CDkey10:08
andreaswHi can someone tell me why kubuntu uses eth2 instead of eth1 for my network device10:09
andreaswthe LiveCD uses eth110:09
soulriderandreasw: i get eth0 =/10:09
bobby__how can i check what apt-get is going to install but not install it yet10:09
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andreaswsoulrider: well ok I also have 1 eth010:10
andreaswsoulrider: Overall I have two network devices eth0 and eth210:10
dwidmannbobby__: apt-get -s10:10
bobby__ty10:10
andreaswsoulrider: but why isn't eth2 eth1 which it normally should be10:10
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intelikeycox377 ok that is unilateral.    sorry for the misinfo.   you can drag the trash from the desktop to the pannel  but not in reverse.   my bad.10:10
Quad64bitHey, do any of you guys know if they added fan controls to the kernel for PPC G5's?10:10
Quad64bitto keep the fans from running at 100% all the time?10:11
jerpsoul, ehh, yeah it's chancey but that seller's 'reputation' link is 100% good, selling since 8/2002.10:11
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jerpw/ 59 comments10:13
soulriderjerp: its not that i dont wanna spend my money, but i find it so retarded that i have to import such a known game10:13
soulriderbecaus ethey dont sell sh*t here10:13
soulriderand when they do they friggin rob you10:13
soulrideri think im gonna try and install kotor10:14
soulriderthats knights of the old republic10:14
cox377intelikey: np10:14
jerpyeah, and five buck uraguay is what?  an arm and a leg?10:14
jerpbucks10:14
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soulriderlol10:15
soulridernot that much10:15
soulriderbut yeah10:15
soulrideri could sepdn those 5 on something else10:15
cox377soulrider: actually i do take it for granted that in the west you just order what you like from where you like and it turns up the next day10:15
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intelikeya trash folder must be for those that frequently delete things that they wanted to keep.10:15
cox377soulrider: whats it like getting hold of hardware?10:16
soulriderindeed intelikey10:16
joe_can someone help me out with Firefox?10:16
soulriderwell, you cant get the latest hardware10:16
soulriderif you do it can be very expensibe10:16
soulriderexpensive*10:16
jerpyes and america is to advanced  we should atleast have to wait 6-8 weeks like anyone else10:16
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soulriderbut it has been getting a lot cheaper10:16
soulridercox377: i run a pretty good computer and it was too expensive10:17
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intelikeyjerp10:17
soulrideractually, i think my dad bought from the importers lol10:17
jerpyes sir?10:17
jerpoff-topic?  sorry10:17
soulrideri like this irc channel.....10:17
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soulriderlol10:17
joe_can someone help me with Firefox crashing? i Googled it, but im really new at this, and dont know what any of that means10:18
intelikey!ff | joe_10:18
ubotujoe_: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins10:18
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soulriderdamn intelikeyyou allways beat me!10:18
cox377joe_: when does it crash?10:18
soulriderbrb10:19
joe_its Firefox 2.0, and it crashes... apparently whenever it tries to load java or imgs10:19
intelikeycurse me not dear friend, you have but to ask and i would hesitate10:19
intelikey!java10:20
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository10:20
intelikey!Multiverse10:20
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:20
soulriderim back10:21
soulriderintelikey: if i split one of my partitions, will kubuntu get screwed up like it did before ?10:22
soulrideri once did that and it went berserk10:22
HymnToLifedefine "split"10:24
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soulrideri ave a partition10:24
soulriderand i wanna split it in 210:24
dopewhat's a program i can use to put songs on an ipod?10:25
soulriderlike a cake :P10:25
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cloakabledope: Amarok10:25
dopeit's not recognizing my ipod10:25
cloakableAhh10:25
HymnToLifesoulrider, with date on it ?10:25
cox377!ptp10:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ptp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:25
HymnToLifeI mean like, your partition has 20 Gigs of data and you want 2x10 Gigs ?10:25
HymnToLifeI don't think it's possible10:25
soulriderwell10:26
dopeany ideas why it wouldn't recognize it?10:26
soulrideri gto a 90 gb partition10:26
soulrideri want one with 60 and one with 3010:26
soulriderone with 30 for windiws10:26
HymnToLifebut how many free space is there on it ?10:26
cox377!Picture Transfer Protocol10:26
HymnToLifemuch*10:26
cox377!Picture Transfer Protocol10:26
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soulrideri can make free space10:27
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intelikeyagain i'm reminded why i refuse to use kde anymore.   i'll not have the days of the week changed thank you very much.   the week begins on sunday ends on saturday, don't mess with it!10:28
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Theorystarts on monday here...10:29
copterhi! does anyone know a program that can copy specified files from cd/dvd ignoring read errors?10:29
cox377is it possiuble to convert .gz files to .deb so i dont have to install via command line?10:29
intelikeyTheory they you have let them change it.   not my fault.10:29
Theoryit started on monday before I even heard of kde :-)10:29
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intelikeyand you are how old ?10:30
sorush20I have samba running onmy computer but whn I try to access the shared folder on from a win xp computer on the network I keep getting the message to enter a user name and password into to be able to get access.. any ideas?10:31
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HymnToLifehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week#Days_of_the_week10:31
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intelikeygood post HymnToLife10:33
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intelikeyi liked especally the part about all three monothiest religions knowing exactly when the seventh day of a week is....   :)10:35
intelikeyand to whom else would it matter ?10:35
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tony_hello .. is there a way to install limewire ? i have limwire for linux, and converted that to deb.. i installed the program but nothing seems to work10:36
tony_is there other stuff that ihave to install before installing limewire?10:36
pipboytry using gtk-gnutella10:36
pipboyworked for me10:36
tony_is that in repo ???10:37
pipboydunno10:37
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pipboyprobably no10:37
tony_or do i have to go with aptget -install10:37
pipboybyt if you want to use limewire you have to install java10:37
intelikey!frostwire | tony_10:37
ubotutony_: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire10:37
tony_im not sure if i have java installed10:37
pipboygtk-gnutella - download sources and compile10:37
tony_lol. im way to knew to linux to compile source10:38
tony_:)10:38
pipboyor find ind adept10:38
faLUCEI have a switch with an adsl modem and a pc. therefore, I connect my pc to the modem trhough the switch. Now, I would like that my PC does routing, so I can connect another PC to the switch... how can I do?10:38
pipboythe only trouble with compiling is the dependencies10:38
xst_I have bought a new nice monitor and am now using a display mode of 1920x1200. But the Pager in the menu has suddenly become extremely narrow. Can I somehow enlarge it? Or does anyone know of an alternative pager?10:38
slow-motionn810:39
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intelikeyxst_ set the fonts ?10:39
jerpintelikey, jews/saturday, Christians/saturday (it's said christ had to get into the grave before the sabbath and rose on the first day of the week)  Islam/I don't know.10:39
tony_how can i tell , if JAVA has been installed on my linux10:39
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pipboyrun adept and check - the easiest way10:40
intelikeyjerp yes.   i didn't mean to open a discussion on world religions  just commenting on the wikipedia mosting that HymnToLife posted  ^  :)10:40
jerpok10:41
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xst__intelikey: The fonts look great. Its just the desktop squares that has becom very narrow10:42
tony_the only JAVA installation is  libjline-java :|10:42
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pipboyhave you updatet the sources.list?10:42
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aloyarchow do i set the minimum password length in *buntu from the cli ?10:42
intelikeyxst__ idk.     is it the whole desktop to narrow for the display ?10:42
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tony_i think i have to install sun-java5-jre ?? it seems this is the right one .10:46
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intelikeyyes10:46
faLUCEanother question: my pc is connected to a switch and I have ipmasq installed. if I launch ipmasq, can I connect another pc to the same switch and use the first pc as a gateway?10:46
enzyhi , i have a problem with my fonts. They all seem to be verry blurry. Only when the fonts are in bold they are ok. Can someone help me out pls10:46
pipboy<faLUCE> you have to use your 1st pc as a ruter and the 2nd as i client10:48
pipboyuse firestarter10:48
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intelikeyhmmm missing something... this is blurting out null key errors:  grep: /usr/share/zoneinfo/zone.tab: No such file or directory10:49
faLUCEpipboy: if I launch ipmasq, does the first pc works automatically as a router?10:50
faLUCEpipboy: if I launch ipmasq, does the first pc work_ automatically as a router?10:50
ironfroggy_LTi have a my laptop running a cloned desktop to my TV via s-video10:50
ironfroggy_LTbut it seems to be a smaller resolution, can i scale it or something?10:50
ironfroggy_LTor, even better, can i just run it non-cloned?10:51
xst__intelikey: The whole desktop is 1920x1200 and thus wider than tall. But the desktop grid is taller than wide - which is wrong10:51
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cox377right, i think the problem lies with my camara using ptp protocol rather than the old mass storage protocol10:51
cox377does anyone know how to make it work as a mass storage?10:51
ironfroggy_LTwhat id really like is if i could configure xine such that if the other monitor is available, it plays on that. can that be done?10:52
enzyhi , i have a problem with my fonts. They all seem to be verry blurry. Only when the fonts are in bold they are ok. Can someone help me out pls10:52
ironfroggy_LTenzy: probably just antialiasing10:53
ironfroggy_LTits that or they are all jagged10:53
ironfroggy_LTthe blurring is to make the rounded edges appear round and soft, not jagged.10:53
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enzyeven when i put antialiasing on they are fucked :x10:53
intelikeycox377 lots of cameras have an option in the menu to choose storage/ptp10:53
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intelikeyor disk/ptp10:53
tony_ohh shoot. instaling java , my adapt got stuck .. in deatail it shows the " configuring sun java " and there is ok button that i have press , which in this mode aint working10:53
cox377intelikey: dammit, appears this one doesnt10:53
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tony_what the hell should i do withough damaging my linux10:54
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DBO!ohmy | enzy10:54
ubotuenzy: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:54
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aseigotony_: try running apt-get upgrade from the command line .. it'll give you a command line for (iirc) dpkg which should get you running again10:55
pipboy<tony_> you have to run installation from console not from adept10:55
intelikeytony_   kill adept and run this in a konsole   sudo dpkg --configure -a ;sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre10:55
pipboyexactly10:55
tony_how to canacel from adapt .. ???10:55
mateohello la room10:55
aseigotony_: ctrl+alt+esc .. gives you a skull 'n crossbones10:55
tony_should i just close adapt ???10:55
aseigotony_: click on the window10:55
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tony_thanks.10:55
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pipboy/192.168.0.1/upload /media/upload smbfs rw10:56
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pipboycan someone tell me what is wrong?10:56
pipboynot mounting at all10:56
intelikey //10:56
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pipboyi've got //10:56
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intelikeypipboy doesn't smb require // on it's mounts10:57
mateoi d'ont find unrar on the depot10:57
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intelikey!unrar-free10:57
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB10:57
intelikey!unrar10:57
ubotuunrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free10:57
mateounrar free arent on depo10:58
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intelikeyunrar-free is In component universe  ^   see above.10:58
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mateoi look thx10:58
jerpaseigo, after you do the ctrl+alt+esc on your desktop, how do you get it to come back?10:59
intelikey!universe | mateo10:59
ubotumateo: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:59
ironfroggy_LTanyone here using ATI Mobility with dual screens?10:59
aseigojerp: good question. =) do you have a konsole handy?10:59
tony_using consol , i still get that screen to accept the licenening ..10:59
fdovingironfroggy_LT: yes. i do.10:59
ironfroggy_LTspecifically, using the s-video output?10:59
jerpyes10:59
tony_lol10:59
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aseigojerp: if not.. what you can do is right click on the panel, add applet, add the run command applet and run kdesktop from there11:00
intelikeyjerp sudo dpkg --configure -a ;sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre11:00
tony_i did that11:00
ironfroggy_LTcan i get the 2nd screen to stop scrolling around?11:00
intelikeyand it installed ok11:00
intelikey?11:00
fdovingjerp: can't you use alt+f2 to get the run-command dialog? i belive that is kwin, isn't it?11:00
aseigojerp: ah, you do... then just run kdesktop from a konsole11:00
tony_using sudo apt get . i get the licencing  agrement at the end . but i can not click on OK11:00
aseigofdoving: nope. kdesktop11:00
fdovingaseigo: roger.11:00
aseigofdoving: in kde4 it's its own app though11:00
aseigo(for precisely reasons like these)11:00
jerpI used the konsole and it's back11:00
fdovingaseigo: nice :)11:01
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aseigocurrently if it crashes it restarts, but that can be foiled (as there are safties in place to prevent constant respawning, etc) ... so dbus auto-activation will cover even the pathological cases where it crashes and doesnt' come back11:01
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mateoi find unrar thx a lot11:01
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intelikeyhmmm missing something... this is blurting out null key errors:       because >>>  grep: /usr/share/zoneinfo/zone.tab: No such file or directory11:02
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mateobye c u11:02
jerpyeah that works....11:02
sjrextorhello11:02
intelikeyanyone know what package is missing ?11:02
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ironfroggy_LTfdoving: anyt ideas, by chance?11:02
sjrextorhow can I install a canon pixma ip1600 onto kubuntu 60611:03
sjrextor?11:03
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fdovingironfroggy_LT: yes. do you use xinerama or mergefb?11:03
ironfroggy_LTno, this is the first ive had this setup11:03
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fdovingironfroggy_LT: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?11:04
ironfroggy_LTyeah11:04
fdovingintelikey: tzdata.11:05
intelikeyk ty11:05
aseigosjrextor: apparently using the ip2200 printer driver. give it a whirl. plug it in and fire up the printer configuration dialog11:06
ironfroggy_LThttp://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/310611:06
intelikeynot a package name in dapper tho fdoving11:06
fdovingintelikey: locales in dapper.11:07
intelikeyooooh yuch  no wonder it's missing.    ok thanks.11:07
boggystudioshas anyone here compiled a low latency kernel for 6.06?11:08
intelikeylox latency ?11:08
intelikeywhat do you mean prezactly ?11:08
boggystudiosfor pro audio recording11:08
fdovingironfroggy_LT: you use clone-mode right?11:08
ironfroggy_LTyes but i wouldnt mind avoiding it11:09
intelikeyboggystudios not for that reason but i've build a few custom kernels.11:09
ironfroggy_LTid actually ideally like to just play movies on the second display. i dont even want a desktop there.11:09
fdovingintelikey: low latency, fully preempted and so on. patched for audio work and such11:09
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intelikeyyes fully preempted  but no special patching11:10
boggystudiosyeah I was wondering if anyone could point me to some info regarding compiling my kernel for audio work11:10
fdovingironfroggy_LT: ok, i don't know how to do that, but i can help you add it as an extra screen that you can have apps on.11:10
boggystudiosif anyone here has done that11:10
ironfroggy_LTfdoving: thats plenty good enough11:10
intelikeyboggystudios i don't have any special url's for you  but i can comment that the 2.6 kernel source has a nice configurator  and compiles like a dream11:12
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intelikeyboggystudios junst install build-essential    and grab the source.11:12
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intelikeynow as to the special needs i'll have to bow out on that issue.11:13
boggystudiosintelikey: thanks I will try that11:13
intelikeynp.11:14
intelikeyi'm gone.   back me later11:14
fdovingironfroggy_LT: you're using the fglrx driver, i know nothing about that. I use the ati opensource ati driver.11:14
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Quad64bitanyone here play with xgl?11:15
Quad64bitguess not... :(11:15
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fdovingironfroggy_LT: however, you can look at my xorg.conf to see how I use the ati driver to do laptop 1024x768+ external 1280x1024: http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/xorg.conf11:16
FisherPriceHi, is anyone an NVIDIA install expert ???11:16
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fdoving!nvidia | fisherprice11:17
ubotufisherprice: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:17
gnomefreakFisherPrice: what is the issue?11:17
gnomefreakdont really need to be an expert to install nvidia11:17
FisherPricegnomefreak I've done all the usual.. apt-get install nvidia-glx... even gone to all the sites11:17
gnomefreakFisherPrice: and?11:18
gnomefreakFisherPrice: what errors are you getting?11:18
FisherPricegnomefreak I've done this before, but my hdd crashed and i didn't keep the backup:(11:18
gnomefreakFisherPrice: only packages you need are nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy and linux-restricted-modules$'uname -r'11:19
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FisherPricegnomefreak well, I can get the nvidia driver to work sort've.. it doesnt' come up with the nvidia splash11:19
gnomefreakFisherPrice: ok do you get a blue screen?11:19
gnomefreakblue screen wiht greyish color box with text in it11:20
gnomefreakwith even11:20
FisherPricegnomefreak depends. if i follow the standard instructions i get a black screen, but i add a few extra lines and everything is fine but no splash11:20
FisherPriceand i can't start a program with OpenGL11:20
gnomefreaksplash as in usplash?11:20
gnomefreakFisherPrice: what version of nvidia-glx is installed?11:20
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chillianhi11:37
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jerpchillian, hello11:38
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holotonefor some reason, the volume control in my system tray does not work11:42
holotonebut opening kmix and adjusting the PCM level does11:42
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endo602hello11:42
endo602can someone help me setup an ident id?11:42
vikkeis there any way to hide the statusfield in konqueror?11:42
_Snatch_hi11:42
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endo602I am using pidentd right now11:42
holotonehow do I make the simple volume control in the system tray work? It's annoying to have to open kmix to adjust the volume every time instead of just mousewheeling over the speaker icon11:42
endo602I dont know how to use it11:42
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_Snatch_endo602: hahaha, me neither11:42
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_Snatch_hey, people, can anyone tell me how to configure my webcam??????????11:42
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geniiHas anyone gotten Conexant HSF/HCF modem drivers compiling under Edgy or Feisty yet?11:44
_Snatch_hey, people, can anyone tell me how to configure my webcam??????????11:45
endo602Can someone help me write a script that when I open it up it types a command in konsole?11:46
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LynoureIn katapult, can I somehow configure what documents are in the Document catalog?11:46
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geniiendo602 Shouldn't something like "command here | konsole" work?11:47
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endo602could be11:47
_Snatch_hey, people, can anyone tell me how to configure my webcam??????????11:47
endo602but11:47
endo602I need it to move to s certain directory and type  a command11:47
endo602ie. cd JJJ/11:48
endo602./JJJ11:49
geniiendo602 so the "cd /path/here && command | konsole"11:49
_Snatch_hey, people, can anyone tell me how to configure my webcam??????????11:49
_Snatch_hey, people, can anyone tell me how to configure my webcam??????????11:49
_Snatch_please!11:51
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Lynoure_Snatch_: I bet they saw you on the first and second time already11:51
_Snatch_im desperate!11:51
stdin!repeat | _Snatch_11:51
ubotu_Snatch_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience11:51
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stdinif no one answers, no one knows11:52
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Lynoure_Snatch_: how about starting with telling which of the gazillion webcams you have?11:52
geniistdin Hey, hi :)11:52
stdinhe genii :D11:52
_Snatch_Quickcam11:52
_Snatch_by logitech11:52
stdins/he/hey11:52
Lynoure_Snatch_: That's the most exact model? No numbers or letters after that?11:52
_Snatch_hold on11:52
endo602genii what sort of file do i create to use it .sh?11:52
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_Snatch_Lynoure: its called: Logitech (r) QuickCam (r) Chat11:53
stdinendo602: as long as it's executable the extention don't matter11:53
endo602?11:53
geniiendo You can just make a desktop launcher and use as the command "cd /wherever && command | konsole" Then I imagine it will open Konsole in the right dir with the command inserted11:53
geniiBut sh would be default type yeah11:53
endo602cool11:53
vbgunzwhat is Kubuntus equivalent to Gnomes deskbar app?11:53
endo602thanks man11:53
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endo602is there a way to specify the width the konsole opens12:03
stdinwhat is with all the netsplits?12:03
Lynourevbgunz: Do you know a lot on Katapult? I'm trying to figure out how to 1) get it to deal with names that start the same and 2) How to get it to find my documents12:03
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gnomefreakstdin: freenode just moving people around (maybe they are board ;))12:03
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vbgunzLynoure, I am asking for something equivalent to Gnomes Deskbar... coming from Gnome, the Deskbar applet was one of my fav panel applets12:03
stdingnomefreak: maybe :P12:03
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sorush20I'm not automounting the cdrom for some reason could someone help please?12:03
geniiendo602 About the width of konsole etc I dunno :(12:03
Lynourevbgunz: I guess that means "no"...12:03
endo602some reason it isnt executed12:03
endo602?12:03
chillianhi12:03
geniiendo602 Hangon let me try it here, I'm on an Edgy box12:03
sorush20should I have the umountroot service running?12:03
chillianI want to instal flash12:03
sorush20umountroot12:03
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sorush20!umountroot12:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about umountroot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:03
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stdinsorush20: what are you trying to do?12:03
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sorush20when I load a cd into a drive I don't get the auto mount logo..12:03
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sorush20dialogue12:03
endo602do i need to put ; at end of line?12:03
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chillianbut if I put "./flash-installer in the command box, nothing happens? can someone help12:03
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stdinsorush20: do you get an icon on the desktop?12:03
sorush20no12:03
chilliannope12:03
gnomefreakin what box??12:03
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sorush20and when I go to the directory media I don't see any other mounted icons..12:03
gnomefreakther eis no ~/.flash-installer file12:03
chilliancommando uitvoeren12:03
stdinsorush20: can you mount it manually?12:03
sorush20stdin: I think I can but only as root12:03
geniiendo602 Interesting, it's not behaving as I would have thought by inserting the command into Konsole12:03
stdinsorush20: you should be able to mount it as the normal user12:03
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sorush20I have to do sudo mount /dev/had /media/cdrom0, but then there are no viewable files there at ..12:03
genii(At least by way of making a launcher as I described above)12:03
chillianfile:///tmp/kde-chillian/arkoHNpJW/install_flash_player_7_linux/flashplayer-installer12:03
gopphey12:03
goppis thier12:03
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sorush20do you have the umountroot process running ?12:03
goppa means to get more different kde theme12:03
sorush20stdin:12:03
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chillianI dont think so12:04
gopp!theme12:04
geniiendo602 Hangon I'll look for another solution12:04
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy12:04
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endo602thanks12:04
vbgunzwhat is Kubuntus equivalent to Tomboy note taking applet?12:04
fdovingvbgunz: basket is good.12:04
stdinsorush20: no12:04
stdinsorush20: that script is only run at shutdown and reboot12:05
sorush20I can only mount things with sudo .. how do I change this12:05
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stdinsorush20: in /etc/fstab there should be a line with your cd device on it, and it should have the word 'user' near the end12:06
chillianI always used windows, so I'm real noob in Linux ;)12:06
stdinsorush20: mine says: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       012:06
sorush20user noauto12:07
stdinthat should let you mount it as a normal user12:08
foobwhat app do you use to take screenshots in kubuntu12:08
stdinfoob: ksnapshot12:08
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fooboh duh12:08
stdin:)12:09
foobhow come when i move apps to other desktop workspaces they still are seen minimized in kicker?12:09
sorush20here is mine12:09
goppis thier a way to install kde themes12:09
gopplike apt-get install kde-themes didn't help12:09
sorush20http://pastebin.com/84988312:09
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foobkmenu->system settings->appearance?12:09
gopp!changethemes12:09
ubotuInstall gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=312:09
murchadh_bhabaendo602: At a prompt => echo 'cd /the/path/to/dir ;./executable' >> myfirstscript, then chmod +x myfirstscript12:10
stdinfoob: right click the task bar, go to configure panel, then to taskbar, and uncheck "show windows from all desktops"12:10
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endo602?12:11
endo602aha12:11
endo602ol12:11
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sorush20do I need to reload the fstabs?12:11
foobthanks12:12
sorush20I think I managed to fix it12:12
stdinsorush20: how come you have 2 entry's for hda and hdb?12:12
murchadh_bhabaendo602: The echo places anything within quotes on a line in the file myfirstscript, the chmod +x makes it executable. Try it!12:12
sorush20stdin: I got rid of the first two by #12:12
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sorush20It worked now..12:12
endo602ok12:12
stdinsorush20: that's was why it wasn't working then :P12:12
sorush20I have no idea how that go there12:13
vbgunzfdoving, basket is quite nice12:13
vbgunzfdoving, thank you!12:13
Oscar__A question. How come usb-devices aren't mounted with the "sync" option? That would make a lot more sense. Wouldn't you agree?12:13
BTRIs it possibly to install gnome in kubuntu?12:13
fdovingvbgunz: you're welcome, i like it too :)12:14
stdinBTR: yes, just install ubuntu-desktop12:14
Oscar__BTR: Sure, but that would make it ubuntu.12:14

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