[12:13] <goodthing> njee: kdesu when using sudo on launching GUI's is better for what i read
[12:14] <bobleny> Thats not good!
[12:14] <MidMark> hi guys, last days I was trying to configure frequencies for a 15" monitor
[12:14] <njee> goodthing: you're right, sudo will mess with the file permission proterties I think, but in this case its already all set to root so I don't think it would make any difference, right?
[12:15] <cntb> sudo apt-get install planetpenguin-racer
[12:15] <MidMark> the problem is: every range I put (also the right one found on internet) results in the same interlaced screen
[12:15] <MidMark> I've just set the HorizSync and the VertRefresh in xorg.conf ... what can be wrong?
[12:16] <MidMark> any idea?
[12:16] <goodthing> njee: no it was something with failing to re-login as sudo for the comand after that point, kwrite might just work though with sudo. I am not sure how many problems are with it to be honest.
[12:16] <skchang> how can i start modules at system start?
[12:16] <goodthing> *command
[12:16] <skchang> automatic modprobe...
[12:17] <njee> goodthing: oh ok, thanks for the advice....everyone listen to goodthing :)
[12:17] <MidMark> is there a way to configure the monitor under kubuntu without GUI?
[12:17] <goodthing> i wouldn't advise on that ;)
[12:18] <_Snatch_> hey dudes
[12:18] <_Snatch_> check this out
[12:19] <_Snatch_> type: ubotu is a bot
[12:19] <_Snatch_> and ubotu says:
[12:19] <_Snatch_> and ubotu says:
[12:19] <notech> MidMark: using the resolution and refresh rates specified by your monitor docs?
[12:19] <_Snatch_> ubotu is a bot
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <noiesmo> _Snatch_, stop playing with the bot
[12:19] <_Snatch_> !!!!!!!!!!
[12:19] <_Snatch_> xDDDDDD
[12:20] <RogueThunder> Excuse me, anyone here compitent in getting a windows computer to share its internet connection with a box running kubuntu... im lost... on both sides >.<
[12:21] <noiesmo> RogueThunder, install firestarter its a gui that will allow you to share internet connection on ubuntu
[12:21] <noiesmo> !firestarter | RogueThunder
[12:21] <ubotu> RogueThunder: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:21] <MidMark> notech: I used it, but nothing!
[12:21] <MidMark> I've a nec multisync m500 and I've set:
[12:22] <RogueThunder> >.< yeah, see, its this poor windows box that has the inet (over wireless)
[12:22] <MidMark> HorizSync 31-69 and VertRefresh 55-120
[12:22] <RogueThunder> Still gona need firestarter?
[12:22] <MidMark> accordingly to: http://www.monitorworld.com/Monitors/nec/multisyncm500.html
[12:23] <noiesmo> RogueThunder, On the M$ box open control panel goto network options right click on the adaptor then from there you should be able to find internet connection sharing not sure which tab of the top
[12:23] <RogueThunder> >.< Yeah, i found that, it complained about a ton of things when i tried that infortunately...
[12:23] <MidMark> notech: is it correct?
[12:23] <notech> MidMark: sounds right then, assuming you restarted X
[12:24] <RogueThunder> Mostly, i dont think the 2 are networked together right atm, actualy im damn sure of it.
[12:24] <MidMark> notech: ctrl+backspace and startx->still interlaced
[12:24] <noiesmo> RogueThunder, :(
[12:25] <notech> MidMark: sorry, no idea. maybe it's something with the driver, or monitor failing?
[12:25] <RogueThunder> noiesmo, im using a crossover cable, and, atm neither computer is setting up lan ips for them, so... windows is annoyed that it doesnt have a proper ip...
[12:25] <MidMark> notech: no idea, so I came here :)
[12:25] <hepme> how can i configure katapult?
[12:26] <MidMark> notech: thanx anyway
[12:26] <notech> RogueThunder: not XP Home i hope
[12:26] <RogueThunder> noiesmo, atleast, thats what the error windows ics sounds like its saying.
[12:26] <RogueThunder> notech: hahaha, no, pro.
[12:26] <niko_> hello i want to know how to configure the KDE login screen with kdmtheme, i installed it but i don't see it anywhere
[12:27] <noiesmo> RogueThunder, adsl or cable
[12:27] <notech> RogueThunder: win should be offering dhcp to linux
[12:27] <bobleny> Is there a LAMP for Kubuntu?
[12:28] <noiesmo> !lamp | bobleny
[12:28] <ubotu> bobleny: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:28] <RogueThunder> no-s: Cable over wireless network, win... seems to be demanding it from the linux box atm... >.<
[12:28] <_Snatch_> !ogame
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ogame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <_Snatch_> dudes, do not miss this: httpogame
[12:28] <notech> then windows is misconfigured for connection sharing
[12:28] <_Snatch_> dudes, do not miss this: http://www.ogame.org
[12:29] <RogueThunder> Lovely, now ive gota track someone down who has a clue about that >.<
[12:30] <_Snatch_> dudes, do not miss this: http://www.ogame.org
[12:31] <RogueThunder> ... oh... that explains everything >.< ouch
[12:31] <RogueThunder> ^.^ windows is stupid.
[12:35] <coreymon77> guys
[12:35] <coreymon77> does iwconfig work with wpa-psk keys?
[12:36] <cntb> Ctrl Alt + ( X resol ) does not work .what to do ?
[12:36] <coreymon77> guys?
[12:36] <cntb> Ctrl Alt + ( X resol ) does not work .what to do ?
[12:36] <_Snatch_> coreymon77: i think it does
[12:37] <_Snatch_> coreymon77 but im not sure
[12:37] <coreymon77> umm
[12:37] <coreymon77> he entered the iwconfig just like normal
[12:38] <coreymon77> and it said that his key was not a valid argument
[12:38] <_Snatch_> Does AnYoNe Know fast and gOoD p2p softwAre for kubuntu?????????
[12:39] <cntb> Ctrl Alt + ( X resol ) does not work .what to do ?
[12:39] <cntb> _Snatch_:  amule
[12:40] <_Snatch_> cntb: aMule is slow
[12:40] <cntb> _Snatch_:  sudo apt-get install amule
[12:40] <notech> cntb: should probably start by looking at your xorg.conf to verify it has multiple resolutions defined
[12:40] <_Snatch_> i have amule
[12:40] <_Snatch_> but its soooooooooo slow
[12:40] <cntb> emule network maybe slow
[12:41] <_Snatch_> no its not that
[12:41] <cntb> tyvm notech
[12:41] <cntb> it has
[12:41] <cntb> will pastebin it
[12:41] <notech> try the other ctrl+alt maybe?
[12:41] <karmikaze> anyone here use beryl and notice it kicks adept manager out of the task bar
[12:41] <_Snatch_> cntb: amule goes a 1.0 kb/s
[12:42] <_Snatch_> + it only downloads 1 thing at a time
[12:44] <cntb> Ctrl Alt + ( X resol ) does not work .what to do ?
[12:44] <cntb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/179/ there yu have my xorg.conf
[12:44] <cntb> notech: ?
[12:45] <coreymon77> guys, how do you use iwconfig with wpa-psk keys
[12:45] <cntb> _Snatch_:  how about torrents ?
[12:45] <cntb>  Ctrl Alt + ( X resol ) does not work .what to do ?
[12:45] <cntb> [01:44]  <cntb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/179/ there yu have my xorg.conf
[12:46] <notech> cntb: hope you missed part of it cuz its set for depth 24 and you only show them defined up to 16
[12:47] <_Snatch_> cntb: tried it, works better than amule, but still doesn't meet my needs...
[12:48] <_Snatch_> cntb: anyhow i also installed limewire for linux, but it doesnt run
[12:52] <arrenlex> I can't change the language in KDE 3.5.5. I have kde-i18n-engb installed, but if I try to add British in kcontrol>country\region&language, nothing happens. It appears in the list, but clicking on it has no effect. How can I fix this?
[12:53] <cntb> arrenlex: could restart help you ?
[12:53] <arrenlex> The same for other languages, like Russian (kde-i18n-ru). Appears in kcontrol, nothing happens if you click i.
[12:53] <arrenlex> t.
[12:54] <arrenlex> cntb: Tried it.
[12:54] <arrenlex> cntb: Tried restarting KDM, tried restarting X, tried restarting the computer, in that order.
[01:00] <hepme> limewire for linux? why not amule
[01:02] <xkhing>  Anyone here get this error before " the process for the file protocol died unexpectedly?" while booting up KUBUNTU live cd?
[01:09] <premier> hello
[01:09] <premier> I have a problem with k3b cd burner
[01:10] <premier> matthew, can you help?
[01:13] <intelikey> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server :1
[01:13] <intelikey> Hawkwind: cannot connect to X server :1
[01:13] <intelikey> ?
[01:14] <intelikey> Hawkwind that was a bad tab expantion
[01:14] <intelikey> sion
[01:14] <intelikey> .kwin: cannot connect to X server :1
[01:15] <arrenlex> Is there an X running at :1?
[01:15] <intelikey> well the xserver is running
[01:15] <arrenlex> At :0, yes.
[01:16] <intelikey> but i don't want to connect there.   i want to connect a second session
[01:16] <arrenlex> You only have one X running. How do you connect to a second?
[01:17] <intelikey> normally something like    twm -display :1     :)
[01:17] <arrenlex> That works? o_O
[01:17] <intelikey> how do you do it ?
[01:17] <arrenlex> You'd have to launch another X server running on :1
[01:18] <qos> hey guys ...
[01:18] <qos> can somebody tell me how to add apps to something similar to windows autostart in kde?
[01:19] <noiesmo> qos, use ~/.kde/Autostart
[01:19] <intelikey> arrenlex i hear you.  but i'm not convenced.
[01:19] <qos> noiesmo, is there no other possibility?
[01:19] <premier> hey, whats the command line to change permisions?
[01:19] <arrenlex> intelikey: I just can't imagine how it would be possible to start a window manager on :1 if there's no X on :1.
[01:20] <arrenlex> premier: chmod <permissions> <file>
[01:21] <holzmodem> hi,i try to use konqueror to browse the www. but if i send a form, or click on a link, he always will save the page as an document, why?
[01:21] <noiesmo> qos, its all i do maybe otherway like rc.local but thats on system start
[01:21] <soulrider> does anyone here use a pppoe connection ?
[01:21] <ragnar_123> hey guys!
[01:21] <soulrider> i have a strange problem, after being connected for a while, some apps acts as if iwere offline
[01:21] <qos> noiesmo, thx. creating softlinks in the direactory or .desktop files?
[01:21] <soulrider> hi ragnar_123
[01:22] <soulrider> i have to reconnect for them to work
[01:22] <noiesmo> qos, normally just softlink or a little script
[01:22] <premier> Im trying to burn an iso using k3b and it keeps crashing.  About 10 secounds in, it says "Cdrecord has no permission to open the device.  You may use K3bsetup to solve this problem
[01:22] <deb_noob> can anyone tell me what widget style kubuntu uses? under... kcontrol >> appearances & themes >> widget style
[01:23] <soulrider> back
[01:23] <noiesmo> premier, add your user to the burning group you may need to add then set burning group on k3b
[01:23] <draik> I cannot enable my cdrom drive. My error message is "An error occurred while enabling /media/cdrom0. The system reported: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[01:24] <draik> anybody have a clue?
[01:24] <ragnar_123> I did install the kubuntu-desktop yesterday, and tried kde for the most of today. However I think my computer seems to run slower with two desktop's, and I better like gnome. How do I uninstall the package, and all the packages which came included?
[01:24] <deb_noob> can anyone tell me what widget style kubuntu uses? under... kcontrol >> appearances & themes >> widget style
[01:24] <draik> ragnar_123: install gnome-desktop. AFAIK that should take care of it for you
[01:25] <vulcanius> draik you need to specify the file system when mounting CDs
[01:25] <superjoe> is there an easy to connect to a wireless router in kubuntu
[01:25] <vulcanius> deb_noob: look in synaptics for Metapackages and remove the kubuntu one
[01:25] <ragnar_123> draik: thanks, shall I install it with apt-get, or aptitude?
[01:26] <superjoe> anyone I can't figure out how to connect to wireless network
[01:26] <superjoe> can anyone help?
[01:27] <ragnar_123> draik: no package named gnome-desktop, do you mean ubuntu-desktop?
[01:27] <draik> vulcanius: I did. I placed it as iso9660 - CD-ROM
[01:27] <draik> ragnar_123: I would go with apt-get
[01:27] <draik> ragnar_123: But that is just personal preference
[01:27] <draik> ragnar_123: Yes. Sorry
[01:28] <ragnar_123> draik: cool :D great community!
[01:28] <draik> vulcanius: Any clue about what else I might be doing wrong?
[01:28] <draik> ragnar_123: You're welcome. Enjoy!
[01:28] <superjoe> I can acces my wirelss router on my dual with xp but haven't a clue in kubuntu
[01:29] <vulcanius> draik: somehow your not setting the filesystem type correct
[01:29] <ragnar_123> draik: apt-get autoremove did the trick :D
[01:29] <draik> vulcanius: I have the following.... type: iso9660, Mount Point: /media/cdrom0,  Device: /dev/hdc
[01:29] <ejm> how would I get dri going on a silicone video card?
[01:29] <draik> vulcanius: I'm not sure what I'm skipping here
[01:29] <ejm> I'll have the model in a sec.
[01:30] <ejm> 86C326
[01:30] <ejm> it's a rather old video card.
[01:31] <draik> I wonder if maybe I don't have the proper /dev/hd*
[01:31] <vulcanius> draik: that could be it
[01:32] <draik> How do I check the hd* corresponding to my cdrom drive?
[01:32] <vulcanius> draik: try doing "dmesg | grep cdrom" in a terminal
[01:33] <PhinnFort> how do i find out which program has openend a specific port on my machine?
[01:33] <vulcanius> if that shows nothing then try "dmesg | grep CD" or "dmesg | grep DVD"
[01:33] <PhinnFort> i just happened to do an nmap of my machine, and amidst all the normal ports, there was 548
[01:33] <draik> hmm
[01:33] <felipe__> Hi guys, I need some help wich apache/php5. When I try to open a php page the sistem ask to where to save the file or which program should open it. Don't know how to fix this....
[01:33] <PhinnFort> !php
[01:33] <draik> vulcanius: I have a few listings here and they all say the same thing... cdrom: open failed.
[01:33] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:33] <PhinnFort> felipe__: you need to set up Apache to parse PHP instead of just sending them out
[01:33] <drbreen> anyone can tell me where to find builds (deb packages) of OLPC sugar for {k|x}ubuntu ? i have isdn and an 133mhz cpu so compiling is out.
[01:34] <intelikey> vulcanius fuser ?
[01:35] <vulcanius> intelikey: eh?
[01:35] <intelikey> ooops    s/vulcanius/PhinnFort/
[01:35] <draik> vulcanius: It is hdc
[01:35] <vulcanius> lol
[01:35] <draik> and that is how I have it pointed
[01:35] <draik> errr... WHERE I have it pointed
[01:35] <PhinnFort> intelikey: hm?
[01:35] <intelikey> scrolled just at the right time.    sorry.
[01:35] <PhinnFort> :P
 how do i find out which program has openend a specific port on my machine? <<<< fuser   ?
[01:35] <PhinnFort> ah
[01:35] <vulcanius> draik open a terminal and just type "mount" and see what is listed in regards to the CD
[01:35] <PhinnFort> nice
[01:36] <PhinnFort> tried lsof and netsta
[01:36] <PhinnFort> t
[01:36] <intelikey> lsof should be able to do that also
[01:36] <intelikey> i'd have to man for the switches.   you can do that tho.
[01:37] <PhinnFort> doing it now, thanks
[01:37] <draik> vulcanius: Nothing here regarding my cdrom
[01:37] <bLaZeD> sudo lsof -i TCP:6667
[01:37] <bLaZeD> weill show what is using said port
[01:38] <vulcanius> draik: then it's not mounted, in the same terminal do this.....
[01:38] <PhinnFort> bLaZeD: thanks
[01:38] <bLaZeD> np
[01:38] <PhinnFort> but it's not estabelished, i'll just telnet it first
[01:39] <PhinnFort> i take it i switch 6667 for 548
[01:39] <arkanabar> I am hideously embarrassed.
[01:39] <PhinnFort> welcome to the club
[01:39] <vulcanius> draik: "mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0"
[01:39] <arkanabar> I've just installed kubuntu, and I can't remember how to generate user accounts.
[01:39] <PhinnFort> bLaZeD: it's turning up blank, even when i've telnetted in
[01:40] <draik> vulcanius: mount: no medium found
[01:40] <felipe__> PhinnFort: When I installed at first everything worked all right, then I removed apache2 and after a while installed again and now I cant open php pages..
[01:40] <vulcanius> draik: um.... got a CD in the drive? lol
[01:40] <draik> yup
[01:40] <PhinnFort> bLaZeD: please ignore me, i thought i was root already
[01:40] <PhinnFort> ;)
[01:41] <draik> well just F me without lubricant.
[01:41] <vulcanius> draik: ?
[01:41] <draik> I **thought** the dvd was burned
[01:41] <draik> it's blank
[01:41] <vulcanius> hrm....
[01:42] <PhinnFort> felipe__: please run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure apache" in a konsole and make sure PHP(4) is loaded
[01:42] <intelikey> vulcanius there is a data cd in  hdc ?
[01:42] <felipe__> PhinnFort: Ok
[01:43] <intelikey> or draik  which ever is working on cdrom mounting
[01:43] <felipe__> PhinnFort: It threw me back to the console...
[01:43] <draik> I just put the dvd that was in the laptop in my desktop and it has nothing on it
[01:43] <draik> intelikey: ^^
[01:43] <vulcanius> draik: was it blank in your laptop?
[01:44] <PhinnFort> felipe__: i mean  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure apache2", sorry
[01:44] <PhinnFort> i'm using apache1 here
[01:44] <felipe__> PhinnFort: actually thats what I did :)
[01:44] <PhinnFort> oh, ok
[01:44] <draik> vulcanius: wouldn't read on my laptop, desktop showed it as empty
[01:44] <PhinnFort> what did it say?
[01:44] <vulcanius> try popping in a data CD or a music cd or something
[01:45] <felipe__> PhinnFort: nothing....
[01:45] <intelikey> can't mount music cd's
[01:45] <PhinnFort> huh?
[01:45] <felipe__> PhinnFort: yup
[01:45] <PhinnFort> felipe__: try "sudo -s" and then " "dpkg-reconfigure apache"
[01:45] <arkanabar> Is there somebody here who could help me complete my escape from Windows?
[01:45] <PhinnFort> 2
[01:45] <PhinnFort> :P
[01:45] <vulcanius> oh how i forgot the small stuff
[01:45] <PhinnFort> arkanabar: Jesus
[01:45] <vulcanius> no wonder coworkers hate me sometimes, heh
[01:45] <intelikey> that's why i asked if it was data disk      can't mount cda
[01:46] <vulcanius> intelikey: it's a dvd
[01:46] <arkanabar> Yah, I have Kubuntu MOSTLY set up -- need to set up user accounts
[01:46] <vulcanius> draik: do "sudo modprobe loop"
[01:46] <felipe__> PhinnFort: nothing
[01:46] <noiesmo> !kusers
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kusers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
 try popping in a data CD or a music cd or something <<<<<      yes i know.
[01:46] <noiesmo> !kuser
[01:46] <PhinnFort> felipe__: "dpkg -l | grep apache2"
[01:46] <ubotu> kuser: KDE user/group administration tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 230 kB, installed size 796 kB
[01:47] <PhinnFort> arkanabar: alt+f2, and type "kuser" and hit enter
[01:47] <arkanabar> one moment, please
[01:47] <PhinnFort> apt-get install kuser first
[01:47] <PhinnFort> :P
[01:47] <PhinnFort> this looks darn cool: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaceBrowserLogin
[01:47] <intelikey> o.O
[01:47] <vulcanius> ...what am i thinking......
[01:48] <ypsila> moin
[01:48] <draik> vulcanius: Ok. Now what?
[01:48] <PhinnFort> i won't dare think about it
[01:48] <intelikey> shakes
[01:48] <felipe__> PhinnFort: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/181/
[01:49] <ypsila> happy new year to all of you
[01:49] <vulcanius> draik: ignore that last thing I said, i was thinking about DVD iso for a second there.... anyways, put in a data CD and see if it automounts and if you can read it
[01:49] <PhinnFort> ypsila: thank the same to you mkay?
[01:49] <PhinnFort> ah
[01:49] <PhinnFort> what is it with netsplits and me?
[01:50] <draik> vulcanius: 1s
[01:50] <ypsila> funny anyway
[01:50] <foob> how come the documentation says kubuntu comes with ksirc as the default irc client, but mine comes with konversation?
[01:50] <vulcanius> ZOMG, the mormons were right!!!
[01:51] <PhinnFort> felipe__: "dpkg-reconfigure --force  apache"
[01:51] <PhinnFort> vulcanius: they're always right
[01:51] <vulcanius> lol
[01:51] <felipe__> PhinnFort: ok
[01:51] <PhinnFort> the world is sometimes wrong, but that's everyone else's problem
[01:51] <intelikey> foob  kubuntu comes with konversation    kde comes with kirc
[01:51] <ypsila> foob: any client you prefer?
[01:51] <PhinnFort> ksirc sucks
[01:51] <intelikey> foob what documentation ?
[01:51] <draik> vulcanius: Hmmm...
[01:51] <PhinnFort> konversation pwnz big time, and they're even doing a major rewrite of it now, so we get scripting;)
[01:52] <felipe__> PhinnFort: nothing happens
[01:52] <Jucato> draik!!!!
[01:52] <vulcanius> awesome, now we can be like those l33t MIRC dud3s!!!
[01:52] <draik> Could not mount device. The reported error was: mount: only root can mount /dev/hdc on /media/cdrom
[01:52] <Jucato> hm... Konvi already has scripting... somewhat
[01:52] <PhinnFort> felipe__: "dpkg-reconfigure --force --default-priority apache"
[01:52] <PhinnFort> ?
[01:52] <vulcanius> draik: use "sudo"
[01:52] <vulcanius> followed by the command
[01:52] <PhinnFort> Jucato: i mean real scripting
[01:52] <PhinnFort> Python;)
[01:53] <felipe__> PhinnFort: nothing....
[01:53] <vulcanius> well there goes porting all those awesome MIRC scripts
[01:53] <ypsila> mirc *shiver*
[01:53] <draik> hello Jucato... It's been a while
[01:53] <PhinnFort> felipe__: i really suck at debian-stuff... I'm a gentoo man in my heart;)
[01:54] <felipe__> PhinnFort: Ok thanks any way
[01:54] <draik> vulcanius: Will do
[01:54] <PhinnFort> felipe__: what you need to do is enable PHP
[01:54] <PhinnFort> felipe__: you can do it manually
[01:54] <Jucato> draik: happy new year! :)
[01:54] <PhinnFort> i'll see if i can dig up some tuts
[01:54] <felipe__> PhinnFort: how?
[01:54] <arkanabar> Phinn__:  doesn't seem to be working.  Is there a command line thingy I can try?
[01:54] <vulcanius> ypsila: oh come on, you know that every time i say MIRC it makes you want to touch yourself
[01:54] <Jucato> PhinnFort: is there such a thing as "fake" scripting? :)
[01:54] <PhinnFort> felipe__: there's some ugly config files you need to edit
[01:54] <ypsila> vulcanius: pardon?
[01:55] <PhinnFort> Jucato: the existing implementation?;)
[01:55] <PhinnFort> arkanabar: you need to install it first
[01:55] <ypsila> it's quite funny in here :-D
[01:55] <PhinnFort> search for "kuser" in "Adept Manager" or add/remove programs, whatever;)
[01:56] <intelikey> ypsila at times....
[01:56] <draik> vulcanius: cannot mount
[01:56] <Jucato> PhinnFort: those are bash scripts. they're "real" scripts
[01:56] <vulcanius> draik: what was the error you received?
[01:56] <ypsila> intelikey: I only compare to other kubuntu chans
[01:56] <PhinnFort> Jucato: the code to get them integrated is rather ugly
[01:57] <PhinnFort> felipe__: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26935
[01:57] <PhinnFort> someone had the same problem as you
[01:57] <michi> kann mir wer sagen welche windowmanager diese suche in den menues unterstuetzt wie es bei der suse ist?
[01:57] <intelikey> arkanabar    did you   alt+f2   and type in  kuser   to see if it was installed ?
[01:57] <Jucato> PhinnFort: haven't seen the code. but that doesn't mean they're not real scripts, right? ;)
[01:57] <Jucato> !de | michi
[01:57] <ubotu> michi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:57] <felipe__> PhinnFort: crap.....I tried removing all apache and php and reinstalling but nothing happened...
[01:57] <PhinnFort> Jucato: well, the implementation isn't "real";)
[01:57] <ypsila> michi: #kubuntu-de
[01:58] <ypsila> idiot
[01:58] <Jucato> PhinnFort: that's better (maybe) :)
[01:58] <PhinnFort> Sho_ is my hero
[01:58] <Jucato> ypsila: chill :)
[01:58] <intelikey> ypsila what did it do ?
[01:58] <intelikey> oh some other idiot .....    nm
[01:58] <ypsila> Jucato:I know him from the #kubunut-de which is my "home" ;-)
[01:59] <ypsila> intelikey: nothing, not even reading :-D
[01:59] <draik> Jucato, sorry. Long LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG lag
[02:00] <draik> vulcanius: mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[02:00] <ypsila> Jucato: you'll find out ;-)
[02:01] <PhinnFort> felipe__: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=132462&postcount=2 specifically
[02:01] <PhinnFort> lol
[02:01] <PhinnFort> well, my home used to be #gentoo-amd64, until i switched to KUbuntu
[02:01] <PhinnFort> 30s lag here now
[02:01] <draik> that was without the iso9660
[02:01] <ypsila> PhinnFort: :-D see what I mean?
[02:01] <IrIT^> Hey. I've just installed Bluefish with apt-get, and everytime i save, it closes with a segmentation fault.
[02:01] <Jucato> freenode...
[02:01] <draik> Happy New Year Jucato
[02:02] <IrIT^> Any workaround for that?
[02:02] <PhinnFort> ypsila: well, according to Konvi i have a 70s lag now
[02:02] <intelikey> i can not get this stinking printer to work.    it's just a lexmark cj 1020   should work raw.  but i can't add a printer in kde....   and for some reason it doesn't seem to work from cli.....  </DIScusted>
[02:02] <PhinnFort> IrIT^: exorcism
[02:02] <Jucato> I have been residing in Kubuntu for half a year now... whether it's really my "home"... well I'll just have to wait
[02:02] <arkanabar> intelikey:  I did, -- Could not run.
[02:02] <IrIT^> PhinnFort: I'm not much into exorcism
[02:03] <ypsila> Jucato: I wasn't even 4 weeks on kubuntu-de when I was team
[02:03] <PhinnFort> use lots of garlic
[02:03] <intelikey> arkanabar reason ?
[02:03] <PhinnFort> doesn't do much, but it taste good
[02:03] <Jucato> intelikey: add the printer as root, then as your normal user choose the new printer?
[02:03] <Jucato> PhinnFort: you're confusing exorcism with vampire slaying :)
[02:03] <intelikey> arkanabar kdesu kuser
[02:03] <PhinnFort> Jucato: nope, I just like to add garlic to anything i make
[02:04] <intelikey> Jucato trying as root... can't add printer.   i click it   it times out.
[02:04] <Jucato> hm..
[02:04] <PhinnFort> :D
[02:04] <arkanabar> intelikey:  sorry, command not found
[02:04] <Jucato> PhinnFort: vampires must hate you
[02:04] <prak> are anyone familiar with the dialing procedure of minicom?
[02:04] <Jucato> arkanabar: kdesu kcmshell userconfig
[02:04] <intelikey> arkanabar ah  ok.     what are you trying to do exactly ?
[02:04] <PhinnFort> well, i that might explain why i haven't seen one yet
[02:04] <Jucato> guys, kuser isn't installed in Kubuntu
[02:04] <PhinnFort> Jucato: it darn well should be
[02:05] <Jucato> Kubuntu uses kde-guidance, which uses userconfig
[02:05] <PhinnFort> "apt-get install kuser" everyone
[02:05] <arkanabar> Trying to create a user account
[02:05] <Jucato> PhinnFort: Kubuntu uses something different
[02:05] <PhinnFort> :P
[02:05] <intelikey> Jucato k    i've not got kubuntu  i've got kde so i didn't know.
[02:05] <Jucato> it doesn't need two user management GUIS
[02:05] <intelikey> thanks for the heads up.
[02:05] <PhinnFort> intelikey: http://localhost:631/
[02:05] <PhinnFort> there you can configure your printing all you want
[02:05] <Jucato> PhinnFort, intelikey: kuser isn't even installed by default in base KDE :P
[02:06] <PhinnFort> Jucato: it is so
[02:06] <PhinnFort> at least in Gentoo
[02:06] <Jucato> hah
[02:06] <PhinnFort> and i think Gentoo use pretty pristine kde packages
[02:06] <intelikey> arkanabar you can use   sudo adduser <name>   in the shell for that  if you don't find a gui way.
[02:06] <felipe__> PhinnFort: Im missing the php5.conf file in /ect/apache2/mods-enabled/
[02:06] <Jucato> I'm talking about kdebase here, PhinnFort
[02:06] <ypsila> hrhr michi changed to #kubuntu-de
[02:06] <Jucato> not a KDE ebuild or metapackage
[02:06] <PhinnFort> felipe__: you should link it from /etc/apache2/mods-available or something similar
[02:07] <PhinnFort> Jucato: Gentoo uses plain KDEBASE
[02:07] <PhinnFort> only with security fixes
[02:07] <intelikey> Jucato i said i have kde.   not just kdebase     all i did is   apt-get install kde    and i have kuser      also of note this is dapper.
[02:07] <PhinnFort> more or less
[02:07] <arkanabar> intelikey:  the last one worked.  I'd actually asked for a command line utility but missed the response, if any
[02:07] <arkanabar> Anyway, that done, I'm getting out of this oem install account.
[02:07] <intelikey> arkanabar hehhe i missed the request.  sorry.
[02:08] <foob> when i try to launch amule in kde it just disappears, doesnt laucnh, dont see it down in the task bar anywhere. any idea why?
[02:08] <PhinnFort> intelikey: do you manage to get the printer installed?
[02:08] <intelikey> no
[02:08] <prak> are anyone familiar with the dialing procedure of minicom?
[02:08] <PhinnFort> http://localhost:631/
[02:08] <PhinnFort> prak: no
[02:08] <PhinnFort> foob: try to run it in Konsole
[02:08] <PhinnFort> it might say what is wrong
[02:09] <intelikey> looks like it's gonna time out PhinnFort
[02:09] <PhinnFort> waddayamean?
[02:09] <foob> well when i run it in console it works, that's the thing
[02:09] <foob> but not from the menu
 http://localhost:631/  <<<<< looks like it's gonna time out.
[02:09] <foob> but it does appear to launch it only to quickly close
[02:09] <PhinnFort> intelikey: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[02:09] <felipe__> PhinnFort: I did the linking. I'll restart to see if anything changes
[02:09] <PhinnFort> felipe__: ok
[02:10] <intelikey> i just started cupsys by hand....
[02:10] <PhinnFort> whops
[02:10] <PhinnFort> well, don't
[02:10] <intelikey> but i'll restart it if you think it will help.
[02:10] <PhinnFort> are you sure it read the configs from the right place?
[02:11] <intelikey> no i havn't don't anything to cupsys sense installing it....
[02:11] <arkanabar> Yay!  Many thanks, all.
[02:11] <PhinnFort> well, i meant when you restarted it "by hand"
[02:11] <intelikey> why would it not ?
[02:11] <PhinnFort> intelikey: have you tried doing it "System Settings"?
[02:12] <PhinnFort> intelikey: sometimes the init-scripts passes special flags, like port it listens to or config file to read
[02:12] <intelikey> PhinnFort kconfig > piriferals > printer > add > printer/class    times out.
[02:13] <felipe__> PhinnFort: I restarted my pc and everything is working all right :?
[02:13] <intelikey> well actualy there is no time limit.   it just sits there.
[02:13] <PhinnFort> felipe__: hooray!
[02:13] <crackcorn> in kubuntu when i send something to another desktop, it doesnt disapear off my current desktop taskbar, but in gnome it would. is there a place where i could configure it like that
[02:13] <PhinnFort> merry new year and all that
[02:14] <foob> happy futurism
[02:14] <PhinnFort> crackcorn: yes
[02:14] <felipe__> PhinnFort: Not sure why the reinstallation forgot to do the linking tho the load and conf files...
[02:14] <foob> is there a good ncurses based mp3 player? maybe like a front end to mpg321
[02:14] <felipe__> PhinnFort: thanks for all the help :=)
[02:14] <PhinnFort> felipe__: me neither, i thought the dpkg-system should handle that kind of stuff easily
[02:14] <PhinnFort> no problem at all
[02:14] <crackcorn> ah i found, thanks
[02:14] <PhinnFort> foob: yes
[02:14] <PhinnFort> yw;)
[02:14] <foob> phinn whats it calllllled? :)
[02:14] <PhinnFort> heh...
[02:14] <Jucato> hm...... kuser is part of the kdeadmin module, as far as KDE is concerned http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdeadmin/kuser/
[02:15] <felipe__> PhinnFort: Could it be a bug?
[02:15] <PhinnFort> you ask tricky questions
[02:15] <PhinnFort> Jucato: kdeadmin is pretty standard, afaic
[02:15] <PhinnFort> felipe__: i don't think so
[02:15] <Jucato> PhinnFort: but not part of the kdebase module
[02:15] <Jucato> http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase
[02:15] <PhinnFort> Jucato: well, you need KDECORE if you want KDEBASE, afaik
[02:16] <intelikey> but kde is a meta that pulls in most everything k
[02:16] <saree> in konsole how do i know if im root? i am using sudo in front of my command "sudo apt-get install w32 codecs"
[02:16] <PhinnFort> saree: look for a hash mark
[02:16] <Jucato> PhinnFort: yep, but kdeadmin is still not part of kdecore
[02:16] <PhinnFort> if it's a $, you're not root
[02:16] <PhinnFort> Jucato: most of KUser is in kdecore
[02:16] <PhinnFort> :D
[02:16] <saree> i have no has just a $
[02:16] <PhinnFort> afaik
[02:16] <PhinnFort> saree: then you're not root
[02:17] <saree> how do i get root?
[02:17] <PhinnFort> # = root, $ = normal user
[02:17] <PhinnFort> sudo -s
[02:17] <PhinnFort> should do it
[02:17] <matthew_> or sudo -i
[02:17] <Jucato> saree: you don't need a root prompt to install things, that's what sudo is for
[02:17] <Jucato> saree: but w32codecs are not in the repository, so it won't work
[02:17] <saree> kool thx
[02:17] <PhinnFort> or sudo su .
[02:17] <PhinnFort> or sudo su -
[02:18] <PhinnFort> wtf is mrtg?
[02:18] <PhinnFort> !mrtg
[02:18] <ubotu> mrtg: multi router traffic grapher. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.14.3-1 (edgy), package size 503 kB, installed size 1300 kB
[02:18] <felipe__> PhinnFort: to which user should the files in www belong?
[02:18] <arkanabar> Is there some reason that surfing on Konqueror is 30s slower than Firefox in Win2kpro?  Or is that Verizon?
[02:18] <saree> isnt w32 codecs the pkg for win media?\
[02:18] <PhinnFort> felipe__: i think "apache"
[02:18] <felipe__> PhinnFort: ok
[02:18] <PhinnFort> arkanabar: how 30s slower?
[02:18] <PhinnFort> felipe__: but i'm not very sure
[02:18] <Jucato> saree: yes. but you need to download it manually. it's not available in Ubuntu's repositories for legal reasons
[02:19] <PhinnFort> it's a legal mess
[02:19] <intelikey> hey i finally got an add printer screen.    but the two windows panes "manufacture" && "modle"  are both empty....   so how do i select a driver ?
[02:19] <saree> isnt it in multuverse?\
[02:19] <Jucato> saree: nope
[02:19] <Jucato> !w32codecs
[02:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:19] <saree> how do i get all my codecs then?
[02:19] <Jucato> saree: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[02:20] <arkanabar> pages that load in under 3s thru Firefox under Win2k take 25s thru Konqueror under Kubuntu, over a verizon dsl connection
[02:20] <PhinnFort> arkanabar: try in Opera
[02:20] <PhinnFort> also, make sure you don't have anything else using your bandwidth
[02:21] <arkanabar> Uh, you guys in Konversation
[02:21] <arkanabar> Not sure I have Opera
[02:21] <PhinnFort> i'm heavy
[02:21] <PhinnFort> Opera pwns at speed
[02:21] <flaccid> is there any alternatives to gimp
[02:21] <PhinnFort> intelikey: have you uninstalled foomatic?
[02:21] <PhinnFort> flaccid: krita
[02:21] <PhinnFort> !krita
[02:21] <ubotu> krita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2463 kB, installed size 7768 kB
[02:21] <intelikey> foomatic ?
[02:21] <PhinnFort> much more like photoshop than GIMP though
[02:21] <intelikey> probably
[02:21] <felipe__> PhinnFort: actually the user is www-data, now everything is working
[02:22] <flaccid> thanks PhinnFort
[02:22] <PhinnFort> felipe__: good:D
[02:22] <intelikey> well actually more like it was never installed.
[02:22] <PhinnFort> flaccid: yw;)
[02:22] <PhinnFort> intelikey: i think that foomatic has most of the printer drivers available
[02:22] <Daisuke_Ido> i would recommend gimpshop (a retooling of the gimp UI to make the learning curve a little less steep for photoshop users)
[02:22] <PhinnFort> that's what i installed when i needed printing in gentoo
[02:22] <Daisuke_Ido> although, it *is* still the gimp
[02:22] <PhinnFort> Daisuke_Ido: still doesn't support all the stuff that Krita supports
[02:23] <PhinnFort> advanced color management, etc.
[02:23] <PhinnFort> krita is getting there fast;)
[02:23] <Daisuke_Ido> right
[02:23] <Daisuke_Ido> like i said, it's still the gimp, with a modified UI
[02:23] <PhinnFort> yeah
[02:23] <intelikey> hmmmm /me does    tty23 [root@~]  urpmi printconf
[02:23] <Daisuke_Ido> and i haven't really used Krita that much yet.  apparently i should, though :)
[02:23] <PhinnFort> 2s lag here now, according to konvi
[02:24] <PhinnFort> ;)
[02:24] <intelikey> it pulls in foomatic-db and friends
[02:24] <PhinnFort> i'm still not too familiar with Krita, so i tend to use Gimp if i need something quick
[02:24] <intelikey> yeah while i'm installing from the net i'll lag like a big dog
[02:24] <flaccid> well atm gimp is not filling bg color correctly
[02:25] <PhinnFort> flaccid: try Krita and see how you like it
[02:25] <flaccid> PhinnFort: wtf, krita cannot do .gif ?
[02:25] <PhinnFort> i thought so
[02:26] <PhinnFort> the maintainer might have disabled it for some reason
[02:26] <intelikey> why would cupsys install without foomatic-db if it has to have it to config ?
[02:26] <PhinnFort> it doesn't need it
[02:26] <PhinnFort> foomatic just has a lot of drivers, but not all
[02:26] <flaccid> linux is starting to be impracticle for me
[02:26] <flaccid> impractical i mean
[02:26] <PhinnFort> well, gif is very bad
[02:27] <PhinnFort> it sucks even
[02:27] <PhinnFort> i don't think i have a .gif file
[02:27] <flaccid> indeed
[02:27] <intelikey> impartical too
[02:27] <flaccid> ie6 doest not support transparent png...
[02:27] <PhinnFort> ie6 is not very good either
[02:27] <saree> how does enlightenment compare to KDE?
[02:27] <PhinnFort> and with a quick hack it supports it very well
[02:27] <intelikey> i have lots of .tiff files
[02:27] <PhinnFort> saree: it's incomparable
[02:27] <flaccid> PhinnFort: yes the mainstream populous like shite software
[02:27] <PhinnFort> tif is okay
[02:28] <flaccid> PhinnFort: the hack requires javascript
[02:28] <PhinnFort> but i prefer png
[02:28] <PhinnFort> but our printing company prefers tif
[02:28] <PhinnFort> flaccid: ?
[02:28] <PhinnFort> i thought you just put a bg-color or something to it
[02:28] <PhinnFort> css
[02:28] <flaccid> nope
[02:28] <saree> phinnfort in what way?
[02:29] <flaccid> css != making transparent gifs work :)
[02:29] <PhinnFort> try to start somewhere
[02:29] <PhinnFort> i just skimmed through Digg when i saw it
[02:29] <PhinnFort> didn't read it
[02:29] <PhinnFort> ;)
[02:29] <flaccid> basically i need to change 2 pixels and gimp won't use FG color
[02:29] <flaccid> krita doesn't support gif
[02:29] <PhinnFort> also krita has much better support for big files, afaik
[02:29] <intelikey> .tiff is topigraphical maps that i have to use...  i could probably convert them to something else but tiff is supposed to be lossless  so...
[02:29] <flaccid> so basically linux sux today
[02:29] <Jucato> krita doesn't support gif?
[02:30] <flaccid> Jucato: doesn't appear so
[02:30] <PhinnFort> flaccid: try kpaint then
[02:30] <flaccid> ok
[02:30] <PhinnFort> i thought you needed fancy filters and stuff
[02:30] <Jucato> hm.. that's quite.. unusual...
[02:30] <PhinnFort> kpaint is also part of "standard" kde
[02:30] <flaccid> !info kpaint
[02:30] <ubotu> Package kpaint does not exist in any distro I know
[02:30] <PhinnFort> !kpaint
[02:30] <flaccid> haha
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kpaint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <PhinnFort> fsck
[02:31] <flaccid> hmm what package is kpaint in, PhinnFort
[02:31] <intelikey> or xpaint
[02:31] <flaccid> ok i'll try that
[02:31] <PhinnFort> kolourpaint i mean
[02:31] <PhinnFort> !kolourpaint
[02:31] <ubotu> kolourpaint: a simple paint program for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1041 kB, installed size 2348 kB
[02:31] <PhinnFort> fsck my memory;)
[02:32] <intelikey> there is an   tkpaint - Versatile bitmap/pixmap editing tool
[02:32] <intelikey> also
[02:32] <PhinnFort> tk?
[02:32] <flaccid> ok thanmks
[02:32] <PhinnFort> stick to K-programs if you can;)
[02:32] <intelikey> yeah i think that used to be kpaint PhinnFort
[02:32] <PhinnFort> mhm
[02:33] <intelikey> PhinnFort hehhe  i could say that about x<programs>  :)
[02:33] <Jucato> flaccid: might want to ask in #koffice about GIF support in Krita... but I think it does support GIF, but needs a backend program to do so
[02:34] <PhinnFort> or maybe the kubuntu maintainers disabled it
[02:34] <PhinnFort> same reason mp3 isn't supported
[02:34] <Jucato> yeah, something like that
[02:34] <flaccid> helps if the kprograms work
[02:34] <PhinnFort> although i thought the lzw patent had expired by now
[02:34] <PhinnFort> flaccid: kolourpaint works
[02:34] <Jucato> as far as Krita itself is concerned, it advertises that it supports saving to GIF
[02:34] <flaccid> whats the command to run it, PhinnFort
[02:35] <PhinnFort> kolourpaint
[02:35] <intelikey> xman xpaint xbiff xmailbox...
[02:35] <PhinnFort> apt-get install kolourpaint first
[02:35] <intelikey> psudo
[02:35] <Jucato> psudo?
[02:36] <Jucato> is that something new?
[02:36] <PhinnFort> !psudo
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <PhinnFort> !xsudo
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xsudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <flaccid> PhinnFort: its installed kolourpaint binary if installed is not in path
[02:36] <Jucato> :P
[02:37] <PhinnFort> martin@tripleseven:~$ kolourpaint works
[02:37] <soulrider> yes
[02:37] <soulrider> it works
[02:37] <soulrider> i have it installed
[02:37] <PhinnFort> alt+f2 kolourpaint
[02:37] <intelikey> hmm  oh no it was a froidian spelling of sudo  :)
[02:37] <PhinnFort> freudian?
[02:38] <PhinnFort> ;)
[02:38] <intelikey> or him
[02:38] <PhinnFort> flaccid: k-menu -> graphics -> KolourPaint
[02:38] <soulrider> im SO bored
[02:38] <PhinnFort> learn a new programming language
[02:38] <PhinnFort> i recommend brainf*ck
[02:38] <soulrider> i dont feel like doiong that today :P
[02:38] <PhinnFort> ;)
[02:38] <soulrider> etf
[02:38] <soulrider> wtf*
[02:39] <PhinnFort> listen to some good music
[02:39] <soulrider> parents are sleeping :(
[02:39] <PhinnFort> may i recommend Blue Foundation
[02:39] <PhinnFort> get some headphones
[02:39] <PhinnFort> ;)
[02:39] <intelikey> turn off the box and go out side ?
[02:39] <PhinnFort> or if you want free music, try machinae supremacy
[02:40] <PhinnFort> intelikey: stupidest suggestion so far;)
[02:40] <Jucato> hm.. that is so weird...
[02:40] <intelikey> ty
[02:40] <Jucato> none of the KDE Apps have a save to GIF feature, but in Konqueror, I have a right-click -> Convert to -> GIF service menu
[02:40] <Jucato> intelikey: wasn't referring to you
[02:40] <intelikey> [Lag 43]     so don't expect a quick response.
[02:40] <soulrider> intelikey: no one goes aoutside :P
[02:41] <lovloss> Anyone know a duplicate detector like kleansweep that can actually show comparisons of image files it thinks are copies? :P
[02:41] <intelikey> aout   lol
[02:41] <PhinnFort> i know KolourPaint has Gif support
[02:41] <PhinnFort> i've used it before under Gentoo
[02:41] <soulrider> PhinnFort: i think it supports png
[02:41] <soulrider> brb
[02:41] <lovloss> kleansweep stinks
[02:41] <PhinnFort> i suspect that the Kubuntu maint's haven't noticed that the patent has expired
[02:41] <PhinnFort> lovloss: how?
[02:41] <bobleny> What do I do if and when a program freezes?
[02:41] <lovloss> lovloss: It doesnt show you the image files
[02:41] <intelikey> kill it
[02:42] <lovloss> PhinnFort: that was to you lol
[02:42] <ibb> use a terminal to kill
[02:42] <PhinnFort> bobleny: alt+f2 type xkill and hit enter
[02:42] <PhinnFort> then click on the offending window
[02:42] <Jucato> PhinnFort: Ctrl+Alt+Esc does the same thing...
[02:42] <Jucato> (in KDE only)
[02:42] <intelikey> or click the [X]  in the upper right corner repetedly
[02:42] <PhinnFort> or ctrl+esc to use kde thiny
[02:42] <lovloss> someone needs to make a pic organizer that helps you sort out copies.
[02:42] <PhinnFort> lovloss: try imgseek
[02:42] <lovloss> hmm
[02:43] <lovloss> is it in the repo?
[02:43] <Jucato> lovloss: I think digikam has something like that
[02:43] <PhinnFort> lovloss: it compares them visually
[02:43] <PhinnFort> !imgseek
[02:43] <ubotu> imgseek: Image viewer and manager with content based query. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-1 (edgy), package size 279 kB, installed size 1356 kB
[02:43] <PhinnFort> it's KDE/Python based, afaik
[02:43] <Jucato> Digikam -> Tools -> Find Duplicate Images
[02:44] <Jucato> I am not sure if that is part of digikam itself, or of kipi-plugins
[02:44] <PhinnFort> now, for the advertisement round: FREE MP3's (or .ogg's if you prefer that): http://machinaesupremacy.com/webography.html
[02:44] <lovloss> :3 thanks so much guys.
[02:44] <intelikey> to kill everything... !
[02:44] <PhinnFort> killall -s KILL
[02:44] <ypsila> good bye
[02:44] <PhinnFort> Jucato: prolly kipi
[02:44] <lovloss> any mp3zs of japanese rock there?
[02:44] <PhinnFort> goombye ypsila
[02:44] <PhinnFort> lovloss: swedish SID-metal
[02:44] <PhinnFort> ;)
[02:44] <lovloss> close enough
[02:44] <foob> how can i tell if my machine has a floating point unit?
[02:44] <PhinnFort> world's only SID-metal band
[02:45] <lovloss> *bookmarks*
[02:45] <lovloss> :D
[02:45] <PhinnFort> foob: more /proc/cpuinfo
[02:45] <PhinnFort> ;)
[02:45] <intelikey> foob less /proc/cpuinfo   :)
[02:45] <lovloss> always on the lookout for new kinds of music :3
[02:45] <PhinnFort> lovloss: try loot, burn rape kill repeat
[02:45] <PhinnFort> that's one of their best songs imho
[02:45] <lovloss> try Dir en Grey
[02:45] <PhinnFort> or maybe Cryosleep
[02:45] <PhinnFort> ?
[02:45] <lovloss> ^_^ japanese metal band
[02:46] <PhinnFort> foob: kinfocenter -> cpu
[02:46] <PhinnFort> ;)
[02:46] <intelikey> lshw     (:
[02:46] <lovloss> they are going on an american tour. i have tickets in atlanta for them
[02:46] <PhinnFort> the most japanese music i have atm is Divinefire, a colab between a sweed and a japanese guy
[02:46] <PhinnFort> lovloss: lucky you;)
[02:46] <lovloss> cool :D
[02:46] <lovloss> I cant wait. sometimes he spits faux blood on the audience
[02:47] <lovloss> hmm its not streaming...
[02:47] <bobleny> Yeah, It died, but why it freez???
[02:47] <PhinnFort> no, it's downloadable oggs
[02:47] <PhinnFort> lovloss: sounds like fun
[02:47] <intelikey> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08179528 ***
[02:47] <intelikey> Unable to read printer database.  Please ensure the "foomatic-db" package is
[02:47] <intelikey> installed properly.
[02:47] <lovloss> should still stream
[02:47] <intelikey> just before that....  Setting up foomatic-db (20060408-1ubuntu1) ...
[02:48] <lovloss> ok listening
[02:48] <PhinnFort> i was photographing at a show here in norway last summer, when one of the guys on stage suddenly started to spit blood on the audience
[02:48] <PhinnFort> ;)
[02:48] <lovloss> sweet. we have like taste, you and I
[02:48] <PhinnFort> heh
[02:48] <lovloss> you might enjoy Dir en Grey.
[02:48] <intelikey> so  "printconf"   is broken in ubuntu dapper.
[02:48] <PhinnFort> i'll note them in my "basket";)
[02:48] <lovloss> ^_^
[02:49] <lovloss> dont worry, its not "anime music" :P
[02:49] <PhinnFort> which song you listening to?
[02:49] <PhinnFort> heh, okay
[02:49] <lovloss> ooh this reminds me of Nightwish!
[02:49] <lovloss> "loot burn rape kill repeat"
[02:49] <michaelpo> how to setup thunderbird so that when reply there will not be a > at the beginning of every line?
[02:49] <PhinnFort> nice
[02:49] <crimsun> tarot's much better than nightwish

[02:49] <intelikey> or actually i guess it's  "foomatic-db"  that is hosed in ubutnu dapper   my bad.
[02:49] <Jucato> hm...
[02:49] <PhinnFort> Mozart pwns tarot
[02:49] <lovloss> should we talk about this in an offtipic channel? its not like much is going on here
[02:49] <PhinnFort> ;)
[02:50] <lovloss> I really like this kind of music. Nightwish/Him/Tarot... dark melodic experimental stuff
[02:50] <PhinnFort> nice;)
[02:51] <lovloss> so they're instrumental?
[02:51] <PhinnFort> haven't listened much to tarot
[02:51] <PhinnFort> lovloss: no no
[02:51] <PhinnFort> just have many instrumentals
[02:51] <lovloss> just that song
[02:51] <lovloss> oh ok
[02:51] <lovloss> dang i like them! ill buy an album :D
[02:51] <PhinnFort> the vocals aren't the best, though;)
[02:51] <PhinnFort> lovloss: :P
[02:51] <lovloss> *listening to earthbound*
[02:52] <lovloss> or do they not have cds?
[02:52] <PhinnFort> yeah
[02:52] <Lam_> is there a way to get Amarok to embed the album covers downloaded from Amazon.com into the ID3 metadata tags in the mp3 files?
[02:52] <PhinnFort> they're even signed with a label now
[02:52] <lovloss> i like to support good music
[02:52] <PhinnFort> Lam_: prolly a script
[02:52] <PhinnFort> i'm listening to the Battlestar Galactica Ses2 soundtrack now
[02:53] <lovloss> Same ethic that makes me donate to open source
[02:53] <PhinnFort> ;)
[02:53] <lovloss> the less something is forced on my wallet, the more likely i am to open it up
[02:53] <PhinnFort> good coding, good musicianship
[02:53] <PhinnFort> sounds like a good philosophy
[02:53] <lovloss> A common one among open source people i think. We have a realistic outlook on the word "free"
[02:54] <Jucato> PhinnFort: strange... digikam can save as GIF... but gwenview and krita can't... :O
[02:54] <lovloss> Anyway, thanks so much for showing them to me.
[02:54] <PhinnFort> Jucato: probably different maintainers
[02:54] <PhinnFort> lovloss: no problem
[02:54] <Jucato> yeah.... just strange...
[02:54] <PhinnFort> i try to do some pr for them whenever i have the chance;)
[02:54] <PhinnFort> good music needs to be spread
[02:55] <lovloss> If you listen to Dir en Grey, check out the "Withering to Death" album. I think their new "Marrow of a Bone" is going to be extreeeemely heavy, and it may not be the best starting place
[02:55] <PhinnFort> well, i like it a bit heavy;)
[02:55] <bobleny> Any one here know how to make the forward and back buttons on my mouse work?
[02:55] <PhinnFort> Zao used to be one of my favourites
[02:56] <lovloss> Do you have limits to heavy?
[02:56] <PhinnFort> well, i don't listen to much grindcore
[02:56] <PhinnFort> ;)
[02:56] <lovloss> what would you classify this as tp://youtube.com/watch?v=WfiGK1nWUig
[02:56] <lovloss> http://youtube.com/watch?v=WfiGK1nWUig
[02:57] <PhinnFort> one sec, need to fire up opera
[02:57] <arkanabar> oh, crap.  I think I failed to set up a root account when I had the chance....
[02:57] <PhinnFort> arkanabar: just sudo -s and passwd root
[02:57] <intelikey> lovloss as spam in this channel
[02:57] <PhinnFort> *s/and/or/
[02:57] <lovloss> :(
[02:57] <lovloss> k ill private
[02:57] <PhinnFort> intelikey as not important in this channel
[02:57] <PhinnFort> ;)
[02:58] <lovloss> lol mean
[02:58] <saree> can ubuntu play .avi without any codecs installed?
[02:58] <intelikey> arkanabar ubuntu is not supposed to have a root passwd
[02:58] <foob> no
[02:58] <lovloss> i think it can. mpegs gave me problem
[02:58] <Jucato> saree: no
[02:58] <intelikey> !sudo
[02:58] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:58] <intelikey> arkanabar ^
[02:58] <lovloss> how did the word "sudo" come about
[02:58] <lovloss> it sounds like ninja
[02:58] <PhinnFort> switch user do
[02:58] <PhinnFort> su came first afaik
[02:58] <saree> what pkg i need to play em?
[02:59] <intelikey> PhinnFort not super user do ... ?
[02:59] <foob> !restrictedformats
[02:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:59] <PhinnFort> intelikey: i don't think so, but i'm not sure
[02:59] <foob> read the section 'getting things working in a hurry' on that first link
[02:59] <Jucato> saree: libxine-extracodecs from multiverse
[02:59] <lovloss> ohhh
[02:59] <bobleny> Any one here know how to make the forward and back buttons on my mouse work?
[02:59] <arkanabar> I don't have the root privileges I think I'd need to install opera, then......
[02:59] <arkanabar> at least, as far as I can tell.
[02:59] <intelikey> su = switch user      but i thought sudo = super user do      could be wrong.
[02:59] <PhinnFort> lovloss: that link wasn't too hard
[03:00] <PhinnFort> just crappy vocals;)
[03:00] <PhinnFort> and drums
[03:00] <lovloss> "Agitated Screams of Maggots" is really wild. Not representative of their overall sound.
[03:00] <saree> thx Jucato
[03:00] <foob> sudo does mean 'super user do'
[03:00] <lovloss> http://youtube.com/watch?v=nQ2A4m45o2U
[03:00] <intelikey> arkanabar the account you make when installing should have sudoers rights.
[03:00] <lovloss> i cant private :(
[03:00] <Jucato> if sudo was taken from su, then, it should be "switch user do"
[03:00] <PhinnFort> np
[03:00] <intelikey> su - <that user>    and then do what's needed.
[03:01] <Jucato> anyway, if you use "su" without any argument, it presumes you are switching to root user
[03:01] <lovloss> Kyo cant sing period. He never even took lessons. For some reason, thats considered one of the cool things about the band. He has no technical ability but he just doesnt care. He's so  confident lol
[03:01] <PhinnFort> flash crashed...
[03:01] <lovloss> its like a fan jumping on stage and knocking the singer over
[03:01] <intelikey> lovloss /msg nickserv help
[03:01] <Jucato> !offtopic
[03:01] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:01] <PhinnFort> sounds nice;)
[03:02] <lovloss> ahhhh
[03:02] <lovloss> PhinnFort, ill also go to kubuntu-offtopic so we dont get booted
[03:02] <PhinnFort> mkay
[03:02] <arkanabar> yes, but that was oem, and the last thing I did while on as oem was run sudo oem-config-prepare which (according to documentation) removes the oem account.
[03:03] <intelikey> arkanabar :)
[03:03] <intelikey> hmmm reboot to single user mode  and add the user you want to be admin   to the admin group
[03:04] <arkanabar> right.  how?
[03:05] <arkanabar> or is that what the little menu dingus to the left of login form is for?
[03:07] <intelikey> arkanabar usermod -G group1[,group2,...,[groupN] ] ]        and ffr  you can always test sudo  with this command    sudo echo yes       if it says "yes" it's working!      example;  usermod -G admin arkanabar
[03:07] <foob> how can i tell what sound output device thing im using, (alsa, oss, etc)?
[03:10] <foob> speak now or forever hold your peace
 ... I was going to have a different account for admin purposes.  I suppose I can create it, mod it to admin, and then remove admin privileges from this account.
[03:13] <intelikey> you can.
[03:13] <camargo_> hello and happy new year
[03:14] <camargo_> I am unable to install a Logiteck quickcam express, any suggenstions
[03:14] <camargo_> ?
[03:14] <intelikey> arkanabar it's not recommended by the bubuntu team.   but i often find it easier to set a root passwd and use that until i have set the box up then passwd -d -l root
[03:15] <arkanabar> I may have to reinstall to do that.  I can't get usermod to work.
[03:16] <bobleny> when useing the command thingy, how do I move a file from one folder to another?
[03:17] <FreshPrince> hi guys
[03:17] <bobleny> Hi
[03:17] <FreshPrince> where can i set my firefox as defaulkt browser ?
[03:17] <intelikey> arkanabar you have to be root.    reboot and select failsafe/rescue/whatever single user mode is called   at the boot prompt  and you will be roor.
[03:17] <intelikey> root
[03:17] <FreshPrince> when i klick on a link.. it must be start from ff
[03:18] <saree> whats a good light weight equivilent to KDE?
[03:18] <FreshPrince> how can i set that? :S
[03:18] <intelikey> saree kde = nothing
[03:18] <saree> i installed kubuntu but it makes my computer sluggish
[03:18] <intelikey> saree there are several gui's for linux though
[03:19] <saree> even gnome is more light weight then KDE
[03:19] <intelikey> gnome xfce4 fluxbox blackbox twm icewm*  and a slew of others
 even gnome is more light weight then KDE  <<<< no.
[03:20] <saree> i was thinking either Xfce or enlightenment
[03:21] <intelikey> if you want light twm or flux/blackbox if you want bloat  most of the others.
[03:21] <saree> which would you reccomend intelikey ?
[03:21] <foob> kubuntu uses oss for sound ?
[03:21] <arkanabar> oy gevalt.  I don't think I remember ANY of my kubuntu passwords.
[03:21] <intelikey> foob no alsa by default
[03:21] <intelikey> foob but it can use oss.
[03:21] <foob> intelikey: how come when i type lsmod only things saying oss show up, nothing about alsa?
[03:22] <saree> twm and flux are a little too light weight i want something thats just not as heavy as KDE
[03:22] <foob> gnome
[03:23] <foob> how can i tell that kde is using alsa? lsmod says nothing about alsa
[03:23] <intelikey> it depends on what you call heavy,  gnome is as resource dependant as kde on this box.
[03:23] <ZeroSystem> hello, i am trying to run kubunta 6.06 live cd but it stops at a black screen saying uncompressing linux....ok, booting the kernal/
[03:23] <saree> k will try it out but for interest sake. can i install enlightenment using apt?
[03:24] <intelikey> foob kmix ?
[03:24] <HymnToLife> ZeroSystem, try Edgy, or another distro
[03:24] <intelikey> !sound | foob
[03:24] <ubotu> foob: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[03:24] <foob> not having problems, just wondering which sound i'm using
[03:24] <foob> so i install the correct packages
[03:25] <intelikey> so have a look on those links
[03:25] <foob> kmix says it's using alsa
[03:25] <intelikey> i told you that was default.  but that doesn't mean it's a must.
[03:26] <bobleny> when useing the command thingy, how do I move a file from one folder to another?
[03:27] <intelikey> mv
[03:27] <noiesmo> mv /path/to/file /path/to/move/
[03:27] <intelikey> or cp  and  rm
[03:28] <bobleny> ty
[03:28] <lovloss> hey guys. i installed imgseek but i cant find it anywhere
[03:28] <intelikey> !cli | bobleny
[03:28] <ubotu> bobleny: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:28] <lovloss> !imgseek
[03:28] <ubotu> imgseek: Image viewer and manager with content based query. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-1 (edgy), package size 279 kB, installed size 1356 kB
[03:28] <intelikey> bobleny see the link ^
[03:28] <lovloss> see i installed that!
[03:29] <intelikey> lovloss check the kmenu ?     check the command line ?
[03:30] <lovloss> yep. 'imgseek' in terminal says there's no such command,  and i cant find it in kmenu
[03:31] <intelikey> lovloss do# grep -e '/bin/' /var/lib/dpkg/info/imgseek*.list
[03:31] <noiesmo> lovloss, try  "imgSeek" no quotes needs cap S
[03:32] <intelikey> if it's got any binarries that should list them.
[03:32] <lovloss> oh it is imgSeek
[03:32] <noiesmo> doh
[03:32] <lovloss> i wonder why its not in the kmenu :<
[03:33] <lovloss> thanks tho intelikey
[03:33] <noiesmo> lovloss, just add it maybe the installer doesnt add it to kmenu
[03:33] <intelikey> or actually not bessarily binarry but executables.
[03:33] <lovloss> gah. i wonder what *other* things ive installed didnt go to kmenu. i install so much in bunches
[03:34] <lovloss> oh! yeah, i idd
[03:34] <lovloss> everything works fine
[03:34] <intelikey> lovloss if you take note of that command you can do that with any package.
[03:34] <noiesmo> cool :)
[03:34] <intelikey> grep -e '/bin/' /var/lib/dpkg/info/<packagename>*.list
[03:34] <intelikey> ffr ^
[03:35] <lovloss> what does grep do exactly
[03:35] <intelikey> get report
[03:35] <lovloss> ah
[03:35] <lovloss> well imma go organize stuff. thanks guys
[03:35] <intelikey> parses text for the specified string
[03:35] <lovloss> thanks :)
[03:35] <lovloss> cya guys
[03:36] <draik> Jucato: Hey. You busy?
[03:36] <draik> Jucato: BRB
[03:36] <intelikey> echo '1 2 3 4 5' | grep -o 3      <<< frivalus example
[03:38] <intelikey> echo -e '1 \n2 \n3 \n4 \n5' | grep 3      <<< better example    then remove the  | grep 3     to see what grep saw befor it parsed it
[03:38] <draik> Jucato: Hello?
[03:38] <draik> intelikey: I can't play the audio from online samples
[03:39] <draik> intelikey: any idea how to put it back?
[03:39] <intelikey> !mp3
[03:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:39] <intelikey> !streaming
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about streaming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <intelikey> oooops
[03:40] <draik> intelikey: I'm not sure what it was before, but it's using mms now
[03:40] <draik> I can't hear the sample music for tones
[03:40] <intelikey> draik out of my ball park there.   sorry mate.
[03:41] <crazy_bus> When
[03:41] <draik> intelikey: Nothing regarding defaults for listening to audio?
[03:41] <intelikey> draik does sound work ?
[03:41] <intelikey> at all ?
[03:42] <draik> sound works, I just mean the player
[03:42] <intelikey> then no.  sorry.
[03:42] <draik> for online audio
[03:42] <crazy_bus> When I inserted a DVD or CD, it used to come up with a screen asking me what I would like to do.  However that screen doesn't come up anymore, and a CD or DVD logo doesn't appear on my desktop.  Does anyone know how I can get them back?
[03:42] <intelikey> general sound issue maybe but on line sound streams   or gui players.   no.
[03:42] <dwidmann> crazy_bus: does logging out then logging back in help?
[03:43] <dwidmann> crazy_bus: I know k3b disables that for some reason or another
[03:44] <crazy_bus> This problem has been here a few days.  In which time I have restarted my computer.  Is that the same as logging out then logging in?
[03:44] <dwidmann> more or less
[03:45] <crazy_bus> Would the problem be linked to switching from nvida binary drivers to nv one?
[03:45] <dwidmann> crazy_bus: shouldn't be
[03:45] <intelikey> no  ^
[03:45] <premier> hey, do you guys know where I could go for eclipse support?
[03:46] <crazy_bus> Because the autorun type screen disappeared around the same time I changed my video drivers
[03:46] <intelikey> #eclipse
[03:46] <premier> thanks
[03:46] <dwidmann> crazy_bus: open up kcontrol, go to Peripherals -> Storage Media -> Advanced, see what's checked, maybe it got disabled somehow?
[03:46] <intelikey> Unable to load the requested driver:
[03:46] <intelikey> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Brother-HL-1020,hl7x0] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation
[03:47] <mishelPlatin> Excuse me, ho can I have my opera browser java-enabled?
[03:47] <draik> Anybody know how to change the default player for online audio?
[03:47] <intelikey> that was from root kcontrol  btw   ^
[03:48] <dwidmann> mishelPlatin: well, you have to tell Opera where Java is, that should be all there is to it
[03:48] <intelikey> Jucato can you hit draik so he'll shut up
[03:48] <crazy_bus> "Enable medium autostart after mount" is checked.  And thats the only checkbox not greyed out
[03:49] <dwidmann> crazy_bus: well, then this probably isn't it
[03:50] <draik> Jucato: Jucato:
[03:50] <intelikey> hmmm Jucato seems to be absent....    AWOL
[03:50] <crazy_bus> Another strange thing that happened at the same time is.  Kaffeine wont seem to play DVD's anymore.
[03:50] <draik> He is busy on his IMs
[03:51] <soulrider> whats better, blackbox or fluxbox ?
[03:51] <draik> errr, away on his IMs
[03:51] <intelikey> flux is more up-to-date  but i like bb better my self.   flux is based on bb
[03:52] <soulrider> intelikey: what are some differences ?
[03:52] <tgentry> can anyone tell me where I can find the power management in kubuntu so when my laptop shuts it will shutdown?
[03:52] <dwidmann> crazy_bus: Kaffeine always seemed hazy at best when it came to dvd playback for me.
[03:52] <intelikey> soulrider ever see dsl ?
[03:52] <soulrider> uhm... no =/
[03:53] <crazy_bus> dwidmann, what dvd player would you recommend?
[03:53] <soulrider> i use VLC
[03:53] <intelikey> dsl distro    'damn small linux'   well it uses flux      there really isn't a whole lot of diff in them.
[03:53] <dwidmann> I don't know, they all seem pretty hazy ...... I bounce back and forth between Kaffeine, Mplayer, Okle, and VLC
[03:53] <intelikey> defaults mainly but flux is more configurable
[03:53] <soulrider> k, intelikeyim gonna try blackbox
[03:54] <crazy_bus> mplayer isn't playing DVDs either.
[03:54] <tgentry> need the codecs probably
[03:54] <soulrider> crazy_bus: did you install decss ?
[03:54] <soulrider> !css
[03:54] <dwidmann> crazy_bus, do you have (and still have) libdvdplay0, libdvdread3, libdvdnav4, and libdvdcss2 installed?
[03:54] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:54] <intelikey> soulrider dsl is full gui linux in a 50m package.   :)
[03:55] <soulrider> ci want  A LINUX DISTRO I CAN BOOT FROM MY USB DRIVE
[03:55] <HymnToLife> !caps | soulrider
[03:55] <ubotu> soulrider: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:55] <tgentry> !power
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <intelikey> one could install dsl from 30 count box of floppy disks   :)
[03:55] <draik> soulrider: DLS
[03:55] <draik> !DSL
[03:55] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[03:55] <draik> wrong one
[03:56] <premier> intelikey: , there was no one on #eclipse
[03:56] <draik> DSL = Damn Small Linux
[03:56] <dwidmann> intelikey: and you know somebody insane enough to do that?
[03:56] <crazy_bus> That's what I don't understand.  DVD's were working properly a few days ago.  Also I have all the packages you mentioned installed
[03:56] <draik> Jucato: you around?
[03:56] <intelikey> premier you mean of the 80 odd users in there all were idle   ?
[03:56] <tgentry> is it just one dvd thats not working or all of them?
[03:56] <premier> yeah, something like that
[03:57] <crazy_bus> I've tried two dvds so far.
[03:57] <intelikey> premier sorry.   maybe it's the wrong ToD for them   </shrugs>
[03:57] <intelikey> premier you can always try ##linux
[03:57] <premier> intelikey: do you know when they're on, or where else to go?
[03:57] <premier> intelikey: thanks
[03:57] <soulrider> im sorry
[03:57] <intelikey> or ##linuxhelp
[03:57] <soulrider> i didnt mean to use caps, it was an accident
[03:58] <tgentry> whats the error? also check the player settings and make sure they are still pointing to the dvd player
[03:58] <intelikey> premier no.  i've been in there one time.  just before you.  only to make sure the channel was there  :)
[03:58] <dwidmann> speaking of things, crazy_bus, it's not playing the dvds right, which error is it giving you, it's bound to say something right?
[03:59] <soulrider> k, im gonna tru backbox
[03:59] <crazy_bus> The source can't be read.
[03:59] <crazy_bus> Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Encrypted or faulty DVD)
[03:59] <tgentry> and is the player pointing to cd or dvd?
[04:00] <dwidmann> crazy_bus: pull up a terminal, "kaffeine dvd:///dev/dvd"
[04:00] <soulrider> damn!
[04:00] <soulrider> blackbox is fast!
[04:00] <crazy_bus> I only have one drive and that is a dvd drive.  Also non-encrypted dvds seem to work.
[04:00] <soulrider> and looks real good too
[04:01] <dwidmann> soulrider: yeah, it is fast ... turn off all the effects and stuff in kwin and it can be pretty fast too though ...
[04:01] <intelikey> soulrider hehhe glad you like it.
[04:01] <intelikey> * intelikey hides before soulrider comes back to cuss him for sujesting bb  ;/
[04:01] <intelikey> -:- soulrider [n=mauro@r190-0-135-105.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy]  has joined
[04:02] <soulrider> lol
[04:02] <soulrider> i like it, really
[04:02] <tgentry> !DVD
[04:02] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:02] <soulrider> but how can i minimize something ?
[04:02] <soulrider> it kinda dissappears
[04:02] <crazy_bus> But css dvds were player two or three days ago.
[04:02] <misha> anyone know about how to get warsow online?
[04:03] <intelikey> click the desktop and enable the taskbar
[04:03] <soulrider> misha i play warsow
[04:03] <soulrider> just downlaod it, extract it and play
[04:03] <dwidmann> crazybus: did you try what I said?
[04:03] <misha> soulrider: I can play
[04:03] <tgentry> I would reinstall the css and see what happens
[04:03] <intelikey> there is a short cut key to bring things back up too...
[04:03] <misha> soulrider: but it won't connect to servers
[04:03] <soulrider> oh
[04:03] <soulrider> firewall? =/
[04:04] <misha> soulrider: routered, but it runs fine in windoze
[04:04] <misha> damn
[04:05] <i4get2> ping
[04:06] <kkerwin> Hi. I can't find /proc/config.gz or anything in /etc that resembles a kernel config. How might I find the original kernel config for the default kubuntu kernel?
[04:14] <hatta> kkerwin, I think it's in /boot
[04:14] <kkerwin> hatta: Thank you very much.
[04:15] <kkerwin> hatta: Ahh, yes, I see it here: /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[04:17] <foob> anyone know why mpg123-alsa is making my mp3s skip when i load applications but mpg321 doesn't. I have an FPU and alsa enabled, mpg123-asla is supposed to be more efficient... is there a commandline switch i have to run, or do i have to run it as root to get it to stop skipping?
[04:21] <premier_> hey, guys, do you know of any good power management software for a laptop?
[04:21] <foob> running it as root does fix it
[04:21] <dwidmann> foob, perhaps renicing it would help?
[04:21] <premier_> something that will tell me when my computer is running out of batteries, etc?
[04:30] <Hawkwind> Linux_galore_: Please don't announce your away messages publicly
[04:38] <balsamic_chicken> is there an amarok theme that looks like the new window media player
[04:38] <Dasnipa`> windows should be a dirty word
[04:39] <balsamic_chicken> that's
[04:40] <balsamic_chicken> helpful...
[04:40] <Dasnipa`> why dont you ask the amarok devs?
[04:40] <Dasnipa`> /join #amarok
[04:41] <angasule> I don't think amarok has themes? it's a KDE app
[04:42] <angasule> skinning == evil
[04:42] <balsamic_chicken> there's like a section on kde-look that was for amarok, but i didn't like anything that was there, that's why i wanted to know where other people find cool amarok themes =)
[04:44] <premier> hey, do you guys know if there is a way to excute a script as the computer starts up?
[04:44] <angasule> I don't actually 'see' amarok 99% of the time, it has global keys
[04:45] <damian> i dont get it, when i start kubuntu, it opens kopete and konversation automaticalls
[04:45] <saree> i want drivers for my vid card how can i tell which drivers to download i9 know its a Nvidia
[04:45] <balsamic_chicken> u don't want that?
[04:45] <angasule> damian: in linux there is 'sessions saving', which opens up the programs that were open when you shut down last time
[04:46] <angasule> !nvidia
[04:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:46] <balsamic_chicken> damian: u can change it
[04:46] <balsamic_chicken> damian go to systems
[04:46] <damian> ok
[04:46] <balsamic_chicken> damian: system setting, advanced tab
[04:46] <balsamic_chicken> then go to sessions
[04:46] <balsamic_chicken> session manager actually
[04:46] <damian> ok gotcha so far
[04:46] <damian> i'm there
[04:46] <balsamic_chicken> then pick appropriate choice
[04:47] <balsamic_chicken> which is
[04:47] <damian> lol oops i'm in stupid mode now
[04:47] <balsamic_chicken> start with new session
[04:47] <damian> balsamic_chicken thanks :D
[04:47] <balsamic_chicken> under on login
[04:47] <balsamic_chicken> np
[04:48] <damian> they did a real good job with kubuntu 6.10 for linux retards like me
[04:48] <saree> GeForce2 MX/MX is my vid card so what driver should i install?
[04:48] <angasule> damian: also, you might close kopete and konversation before exiting, and that way you'll still have session saving for konqueror (which I love)
[04:49] <damian> angasule: that sounds like a really good idea, but being a widnows whore, i like to start my experience off with a blank session
[04:51] <angasule> damian: ah, well, you have lots of bad habits to unlearn ;) have fun!
[04:51] <damian> angasule: lol thanks :P
[04:51] <intelikey> bad habits    :)
[04:51] <mrFunky> hey all
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[04:51] <mrFunky> who be hittin the linux conf?
[04:52] <damian> yeah they are terrble, doing things in linux is way harder than doze though
[04:52] <damian> but linux seems to have infinite possibilities
[04:52] <osiris> can anyone recomend a vidoe editing program ?
[04:52] <intelikey> !dvd
[04:52] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:52] <osiris> im looking to mix a song with varios pieces of video i capture
[04:53] <osiris> and no, bot answers dont count
[04:53] <Hawkwind> osiris: avidemux
[04:53] <intelikey> !thanks
[04:53] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[04:54] <bLaZeD> osiris, cinelerra and kino
[04:54] <osiris> Hawkwind, im looking for something with a gui that an end user might have a chance with
[04:54] <bLaZeD> osiris, id go with cinelerra ive used it and it works greta for me
[04:54] <damian> i downloaded a .run file, a driver for my ati vid card how do i go about installing it?
[04:54] <intelikey> i like this error...   5257 tty24    S      0:24 /usr/bin/kdialog --title kwin --msgbox Will not save
[04:54] <intelikey> configuration.?Configuration file /root/share/config/kwinrc not writable.?Configuration file /root/share/config/kdeglobals not writable.?Please contact your system administrator.
[04:55] <osiris> i want to lace various final fantasy clips to a tune
[04:55] <bLaZeD> osiris, that will do that no probs
[04:55] <osiris> sweet
[04:55] <Hawkwind> osiris: avidemux *is* a GUI
[04:55] <osiris> happy new year BTW to ya'll
[04:56] <bLaZeD> hehe same to you
[04:56] <intelikey> what is it about the term "end user"  that sounds bad ?
[04:56] <osiris> you know many adeot end users ?
[04:57] <osiris> er adept
[04:57] <intelikey> !adept
[04:57] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:58] <intelikey> ubotu does that so apticly
[04:59] <angasule> intelikey: in fact 'end user' sounds like most coder's #1 wish, although 'terminate user' would be better wording
[04:59] <balsamic_chicken> damian make the .run file executable by right clicking and choosing property, u'll see a checkbox for making it excutable on one of the tabs u'd be seeing by now, after u change, just double click the .run icon, or u can go into console, cd to the folder that contains the .run file, and do: sudo sh <file name w/o bracket here>
[05:00] <intelikey> assuming a script ?
[05:01] <intelikey> ssssh it's Hobbsee_
[05:06] <bobleny> Hey, any one here?
[05:07] <bobleny> ubotu
[05:07] <bobleny> !bad bot
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bad bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <bobleny> Bye!
[05:08] <intelikey> with 282 other connections to this channel why would someone think there was no one here ?
[05:16] <damian> i cant change my screen resolution!
[05:16] <intelikey> !resolution
[05:16] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:20] <crackcorn> !tony
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tony - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <pcnerd37> Hello.  I have a question for you guys
[05:29] <pcnerd37> Im going to migrate my parents from XP to Kubuntu and I was wondering if there are any jigzaw puzzle games that i could install on Kubuntu for my mother whos only hobby is playing jigsaw puzzle games
[05:30] <balsamic_chicken> i bet there is
[05:30] <balsamic_chicken> just google
[05:30] <intelikey> junior-puzzle - Debian Jr. Puzzles
[05:30] <intelikey> xjig - An X11 jigsaw puzzle
[05:30] <intelikey> or search the package database   :)
[05:30] <balsamic_chicken> u shoudl play neverball, pissed the heii out of me on mehdi lvl 13 or 14
[05:30] <goodthing> hmm, what's jigsaw? Sounds cool :)
[05:31] <CzarAlex> where can I add/edit the programs that are started at start-up?
[05:31] <pcnerd37> Gigsaw is the only one i have seen so far
[05:31] <balsamic_chicken> goodthing google word: jigsaw and u probably find a bunch of explanation
[05:31] <balsamic_chicken> !jigsaw
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jigsaw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <pcnerd37> ok, thanks for the suggestion.
[05:32] <balsamic_chicken> how do u make yakuake terminal transparent to background
[05:32] <intelikey> pcnerd37 what i posted are in the repos
[05:32] <pcnerd37> I find my parents too stupid to use windows and im tired of digging them out of the mess of viruses and spyware they seem to accumulate, so im going to force them to move to Linux so i dont have to worry about them so much
[05:32] <pcnerd37> intelikey, thanks
[05:33] <intelikey> you shouldn't call your parents stupid.   it reflects badly upon you.     "the apple falls not far from the tree"
[05:34] <pcnerd37> this apple still believes it was switched by accident at the hospital
[05:35] <intelikey> my point is proven.
[05:35] <intelikey> :)
[05:35] <angasule> I'm peachy
[05:35] <manchicken> Hey folks, so in a compromise with my wife, I'm installing nvidia drivers so she can game a bit.
[05:35] <pcnerd37> anyway, i better see if i can save thier windows at all or not just as a backup.  Thanks for the info
[05:35] <manchicken> But... I'm now unable to get a driver to work...
[05:36] <draik> Jucato: You around?
[05:36] <manchicken> Text mode kinda stinks for browsing.
[05:36] <matthew_> fdoving, I did what you said with bmc43xx-fwcutter, but I am not able to enable eth1 (wireless)...weird, huh?
[05:36] <matthew_> I am having trouble with my broadcom bcm4318 wifi internal card on my lappy. What can I do? I've already tried to use gcm43xx-fwcutter and a tutorial from  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&highlight=install+ndiswrapper      any ideas, anyone?
[05:36] <intelikey> !nv | manchicken
[05:36] <ubotu> manchicken: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:36] <manchicken> bcm43xx-fwcutter is kinda unstable...
[05:37] <matthew_> oh...
[05:37] <manchicken> I ran it for a while and noticed some seriously strange behavior.
[05:37] <manchicken> lock-ups, suspend broke, etc.
[05:37] <matthew_> I just want wireless to work on my girlfriends lappy...bleagh
[05:37] <manchicken> Try linuxant.
[05:37] <intelikey> !wifi
[05:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:38] <matthew_> does that have the firmware for the BCM4318 AirForce card?
[05:38] <manchicken> intelikey: Your docs don't work as well in text mode ;)
[05:38] <balsamic_chicken> !qt
[05:38] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[05:38] <matthew_> @ manchicken ^^^
[05:38] <matthew_> intelikey, didn't help
[05:38] <intelikey> manchicken as well as what ?
[05:38] <manchicken> matthew_ I've got the exact same card.  I've found that linuxant's thingy work.
[05:38] <balsamic_chicken> what's there besides qt
[05:39] <CzarAlex> where can I add/edit the programs that are started at start-up?
[05:39] <intelikey> matthew_ that's as far as i go with wifi.
[05:39] <manchicken> intelikey: As they do in GUI mode.
[05:39] <intelikey> manchicken i wouldn't know i never use one.
[05:39] <matthew_> manchicken, excellent. do you have time to talk me through it, or at least watch from a safe distance?
[05:39] <manchicken> Moustaches are annoying when drinking milk shakes without straws....
[05:39] <matthew_> ooooh, look how cool intelikey is, he never uses a GUI....
[05:39] <matthew_> lol, jk, intelikey
[05:39] <manchicken> matthew_: It really is as simple as going to linuxant.com and following their instructions.
[05:40] <matthew_> ok, thanks a lot, manchicken
[05:40] <manchicken> matthew_: But linuxant is non-free... so I hate it.  But it works. ^_^
[05:40] <matthew_> wtf?
[05:40] <passwordissaman> is kubuntu something different from ubuntu?...
[05:40] <matthew_> ok, linuxant is out of the question...lol, I've got no money...actually, how much does it cost?
[05:41] <intelikey> passwordissaman no
[05:41] <manchicken> Until we get a WORKING free software alternative that doesn't break the rest of my OS, I'm forced to use proprietary nonsense.
[05:41] <manchicken> $20
[05:41] <manchicken> USD
[05:41] <matthew_> forever?
[05:41] <manchicken> Yeah.
[05:41] <intelikey> passwordissaman only the graphical user interface is different...   aka desktop
[05:41] <matthew_> hmmm, might be worth it...
[05:41] <matthew_> it runs well, you say?
[05:41] <manchicken> Damn well.
[05:41] <manchicken> I think they can't really free it though.
[05:41] <matthew_> why not?
[05:41] <manchicken> They're using win32/64 drivers.
[05:42] <manchicken> (which they can provide)
[05:42] <matthew_> bastards...so, it's just like ndiswrapper?
[05:42] <manchicken> No.
[05:42] <matthew_> how is it different?
[05:42] <manchicken> Unlike ndiswrapper, it actually WORKS.
[05:42] <matthew_> ooooooooooh
[05:42] <manchicken> ndiswrapper has never worked for me in 64-bit.
[05:42] <matthew_> ndiswrapper worked for me on a few boxes...just not this one...
[05:43] <manchicken> I've never met anybody who had ndiswrapper working on a 64-bit machine using an airforce one.
[05:43] <manchicken> matthew_: Ever set up nvidia?
[05:43] <matthew_> hmmm, well, I don't care about 64-bit very much...just want the computer to work well...
[05:43] <manchicken> I'm all about the 64-bit.
[05:43] <matthew_> manchicken, nope, never played with video card binaries and the like...
[05:43] <manchicken> I'm shallow like that ^_^
[05:44] <matthew_> manchicken, but is there really that much of a boost in speed?
[05:46] <e1> how do i have a transparent background for the panel bar
[05:46] <angasule> intelikey: because it only shows integers? :P
[05:47] <intelikey> angasule yes and should be showing 0
[05:47] <angasule> intelikey: why? is it supposed to floor it?
[05:47] <draik> intelikey: I'm showing 218ms for lag
[05:48] <manchicken> matthew_: Not really.
[05:48] <matthew_> so what's the point?
[05:48] <intelikey> angasule yes.  well round it.
[05:48] <intelikey> what did you get about .6 ?
[05:48] <angasule> 0.8 rounds to 1, floors to 0, ceils to 1
[05:49] <intelikey> but you are looking at round trip   lag is half that.
[05:49] <manchicken> matthew_: I'm a sucker for marketing.
[05:49] <dsmith_> question: how much RAM wouuld you say Kubuntu 6.10 consume?
[05:49] <angasule> intelikey: oh, well, then there's borkedness involved
[05:49] <manchicken> matthew_: I'm sure it is faster and has benefits.  I'm also pretty sure that the variable speed of my processor is more useful to me than the actual 64-bit part.
[05:49] <matthew_> ah
[05:50] <matthew_> you conformist you
[05:50] <intelikey> dsmith_ about 65m
[05:50] <e1> he's a communist
[05:50] <e1> =)
[05:50] <e1> i have no idea what u guys are talking about but i just saw the word conformist
[05:50] <e1> anywayz
[05:50] <manchicken> matthew_: I'm a non-conformist.  Most folks realize that 64-bit kubuntu doesn't let them use all of the non-free software that they want to use (e.g. flash) and roll back to 32-bit like pansies ;)
[05:50] <dsmith_> hmmmm after running for a few hours its starts to creep above 1gb
[05:51] <intelikey> chim-pansies ?
[05:51] <manchicken> e1: No, I'm an asshole, not a communist.  The definitions are very close, but the primary difference is that I like private property ;)
[05:51] <manchicken> intelikey: No.  Wussie pansies.
[05:51] <manchicken> intelikey: Those are MUCH worse.
[05:51] <dsmith_> 64-bit kubuntu sweet :)
[05:51] <intelikey> oh
[05:52] <manchicken> Anybody know where nvidia-glx-config puts the backup xorg.conf?
[05:52] <manchicken> I'm having a hell of a time finding one.
[05:53] <intelikey> manchicken not in /etc/X11 ?
[05:53] <hanan> when running a game, I get error "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".", but glx isn't commented out of my xorg.conf... what am I missing?
[05:53] <murchadh_bhaba> intelikey: Do you know the vga=xxx (cheatcode) for 1600x1200 res?
[05:53] <manchicken> intelikey: I only see the normal xorg.conf
[05:53] <manchicken> Eh, I'll just have xorg regenerate one.
[05:54] <intelikey> murchadh_bhaba not off hand    something like 797    i don't recall really
[05:56] <murchadh_bhaba> intelikey: Cheers, I'll keep looking. I'm using 903, which I think is 1280x1024, but I'm not near it to check. Thanks!
[05:57] <soulrider> anyone know if there are any nintendo DS emulators for linux ?
[05:57] <fyrewol> hello
[05:58] <manchicken> Okay, damnit, how do you regenerate xorg.conf?
[05:58] <angasule> soulrider: apparently, yes
[05:58] <fyrewol> does anyone know a good place to get help with installing JRE
[05:58] <manchicken> Stupid things not backing up confs for me and utterly failing to anticipate my laziness...
[05:58] <intelikey> might have been 979 murchadh_bhaba   hehhe  i often invert/transpose and typo....
[05:59] <angasule> !jre
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <angasule> !java
[05:59] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:59] <fyrewol> thanks ubotu
[05:59] <fyrewol> ive been jumping through hoops trying to do this
[05:59] <angasule> !thanks
[05:59] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[06:00] <fyrewol> whoa.. thats cool
[06:00] <murchadh_bhaba> intelikey: I'll give it a go later. Thanks again, I think you're on the right track.
[06:00] <fyrewol> see something new everyday
[06:00] <manchicken> Anybody know how to regenerate xorg.conf?  All I have is this dirty one that nvidia-glx-config hosed.
[06:01] <intelikey> manchicken sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:02] <Zamber> lern to configure xorg by hand!
[06:03] <intelikey> Zamber hehhe
[06:03] <Zamber> it's more fun that way ;] 
[06:04] <K`zan> mplayer is not available for ubuntu?  What does one use for playing .wmv files?  TIA
[06:04] <foob> it's available
[06:05] <intelikey> !mplayer
[06:05] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[06:05] <angasule> !repository | K`zan
[06:05] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[06:05] <ubotu> K`zan: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:05] <fyrewol> in order to run limewire do u need java installed BEFORE you install limewire?
[06:05] <K`zan> foob: Not finding it in adept.
[06:05] <foob> enable multiverse
[06:05] <K`zan> rr will check, thank
[06:05] <Zamber> !VLC
[06:05] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:05] <intelikey> K`zan but to answer your Q  vlc  :)
[06:05] <Zamber> VLC is better than Mplayer :P
[06:06] <foob> at some things, not all
[06:06] <intelikey> sox is da bomb
[06:06] <Zamber> I had some issues in char coding when running video with subs
[06:07] <foob> i like having them both installed, kaffeine is surprisingly good. most default kde apps are very good compared to the gnome default apps :/
[06:07] <Zamber> but it's my problem coz I was to lazy to change it in the conf :P
[06:07] <K`zan> intelikey: I'm used to mplayer :-), now if I can just figure out what "multiverse" is as it is not in any of my repositories...
[06:07] <foob> type multiverse next to universe
[06:07] <Zamber> foob true, byt caffeine has problems with wmv
[06:07] <intelikey> K`zan add it.
[06:08] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main universe multiverse # restricted
[06:08] <intelikey> without the hash if you want restricted
[06:09] <K`zan> intelikey: nope don't want it restricted, reminds me too much of m$ ;-).
[06:09] <K`zan> Thanks!
[06:09] <intelikey> jap
[06:09] <K`zan> jap?
[06:09] <intelikey> yap if you like
[06:10] <manchicken> Okay, that worked.
[06:10] <manchicken> Sweet.  Now onto the configging....
[06:10] <Zamber> K`zan it's restricted coz some media formats are restricted (codecs and stuff) not mplayer itself ;P
[06:10] <K`zan> Ah
[06:11] <Zamber> it's legal to use it (I think. In poland it is for sure :P.)
[06:13] <K`zan> must have done something wrong, added:  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main universe multiverse # restricted in adept but mplayer still does not show up, even after restarting :-(
[06:13] <intelikey> apply   and see
[06:14] <intelikey> have to apply changes
[06:14] <K`zan> Did, lemme try again.
[06:14] <intelikey> K`zan ah that is an edgy system    no?
[06:15] <intelikey> yes ?
[06:15] <intelikey> no ?
[06:15] <Zamber> mayyyybe :P
[06:15] <Jucato> ugh! make up your mind intelikey!! :P
[06:15] <intelikey> you don't know ?
[06:15] <K`zan> pasted that in, clicked add, apply and close, still no soap.
[06:15] <K`zan> Err yes, it is edgy
[06:15] <intelikey> k
[06:15] <Zamber> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:15] <Zamber> run it
[06:16] <Zamber>  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main universe multiverse restricted
[06:16] <Zamber> paste it to the file
[06:16] <Zamber> and save
[06:16] <K`zan> intelikey: did it
[06:16] <Zamber> btw:  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main universe multiverse (look! no hash!) restricted
[06:16] <Jucato> mplayer is *not* in restricted...
[06:17] <Zamber> run it when adept is not runnung
[06:17] <intelikey> kate ?    it's *ubuntu police to use kdesu for gui apps ran as root in kde   and gksudo for gui apps ran in 'nome
[06:17] <K`zan> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main universe multiverse # restricted
[06:17] <K`zan> #
[06:17] <Zamber> Jucato it's not? gotta check :P
[06:17] <K`zan> Out of sources.list
[06:17] <Jucato> Zamber: apt-cache policy mplayer... it's in multiverse
[06:17] <Jucato> K`zan: remove that #
[06:18] <K`zan> rr tnx
[06:18] <Zamber> intelikey kdesu <- gotta remember, to many tuts from the web made me dumb :P
[06:19] <intelikey> oh so me do me soooo
[06:19] <Zamber> K`zan look for kmplayer package
[06:19] <Zamber> in adept
[06:19] <K`zan> Yep, got that but it doesn't play .wmv :-(
[06:20] <Jucato> the restricted components are for those packages that you almost absolutely need but are non-free in some ways, like restricted modules and binary drivers
[06:20] <Zamber> oh
[06:20] <Jucato> :O
[06:20] <K`zan> kmplayer sucks badly compared to mplayer :-(.
[06:20] <Jucato> this was about a simple .wmv?
[06:20] <K`zan> yes
[06:20] <K`zan> :-)
[06:20] <Jucato> K`zan: kmplayer uses mplayer
 the restricted components are for those packages that you almost absolutely need but are non-free in some ways, like restricted modules and binary drivers <<<<  hehhe i don't need.  :)
[06:20] <K`zan> Yep, but somehow it just doesn't seem to work as well, damnifikjnow.
[06:21] <Jucato> considering you already have kmplayer/mplayer installed and the .wmv still wouldn't play, then it's probable that the file is DRM'ed
[06:21] <Zamber> K`zan I have a genious idea
[06:21] <Jucato> you can't play DRM'ed media...
[06:21] <Zamber> convert those wmv's to avi or something like this
[06:21] <Jucato> intelikey: that's what the "almost" means :P
[06:22] <K`zan> vlc works!!!!!!!!
[06:22] <intelikey> oh, almost means    every one but intelikey ....  got it  :)
[06:22] <Jucato> intelikey: yep. exactly
[06:22] <K`zan> Thanks **** MUCH ****
[06:22] <Jucato> ooh vlc.... going to consider using that in their next release... Qt interface...
[06:22] <intelikey> :)
[06:23] <Jucato> for now, I'm juggling between Kaffeine and KPlayer...
[06:23] <Zamber> form the begining I was saying that vlc rocks xD
[06:23] <intelikey> sox
[06:23] <matthew_> I like mplayer for the variety of supported formats, but kaffeine wins for looks...
[06:23] <Jucato> until you use your mouse wheel in kaffeine...
[06:24] <makuseru> anyone have any experiance with psx emulators in linux??
[06:25] <Jucato> nither do I :)
[06:25] <intelikey> i would have just said   !i   but the bot whines about that.
[06:25] <Jucato> you're mean intelikey :P
[06:26] <intelikey> in what sense ?
[06:26] <Jucato> making fun of other's typos... when you... nvm :P
[06:26] <intelikey> lol
[06:27] <ironfroggy> any ideas why Audacity gets an error opening /dev/dsp for recording and flash apps seem to just silently fail at recording anything?
[06:27] <ironfroggy> i checked and i have rw permissions on /dev/dsp
[06:28] <intelikey> ironfroggy something else using it?    arts for example ?
[06:28] <Jucato> intelikey: you forgot "in a mean world, in a mean universe, in a mean existence, in a mean reality"
[06:28] <ironfroggy> intelikey: duh
[06:29] <ironfroggy> umm... can i get audacity and others to place nice with arts for recording?
[06:29] <intelikey> no no i can't judge the world,  no standard to measure it by.    same for space....
[06:29] <intelikey> ironfroggy use alsa ?
[06:30] <intelikey> what will we hold the earth beside and compare the two ?    </shrugs>
[06:30] <Jucato> lunch time...
[06:30] <Jucato> :P
[06:31] <ironfroggy> i still get the same error, even after verifying nothing has /dev/dsp open
[06:31] <intelikey> philo sophe'
[06:32] <matthew_> !i
[06:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <intelikey> ironfroggy it may not be your perms but the group perms.  i.e. the app may have to use the group  ?
[06:33] <intelikey> ironfroggy also try pointing at something in /dev/sound/
[06:33] <intelikey> is it /dev/sound/ or /dev/snd/  ..... i forgot....
[06:33] <intelikey> doesn't matter   use the link
[06:33] <intelikey> !sound
[06:33] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[06:35] <ironfroggy> the group permissions are correct
[06:35] <intelikey> you would ask.    i think it's   root:audio
[06:35] <ironfroggy> but audacity doesnt offer anything but /dev/dsp in the settings
[06:35] <soulrider> intelikey: both blackbox and fluxbox were fast,. but kinda confusing
[06:36] <ironfroggy> yes group audio has rw permissions and im running with group audio
[06:36] <foob> how do i see my sound settings in kde? in ubuntu i had system->preferences->sound
[06:37] <soulrider> go to kmenu > system settings ? sound
[06:37] <intelikey> soulrider yes.  if you like minimalist  twm is  "IT!"  :)  but it takes some getting used to.
[06:37] <foob> thanks
[06:37] <soulrider> i like minimalistic stuff
[06:37] <soulrider> but
[06:37] <soulrider> in blackbox when i minimized a widnow it just dissapeared
[06:37] <soulrider> forever
[06:37] <soulrider> even if i had docker installed
[06:38] <soulrider> i also didnt have any options in hte menues
[06:39] <fildo> !fonts
[06:39] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[06:39] <Zamber> soulrider xfce is nice and minimalistic
[06:39] <soulrider>  im gonna try it Zamber
[06:40] <Zamber> but if you wanna have something cool and minimalistic tune up kde for your needs :P
[06:40] <intelikey> soulrider and you went to     right click the desktop > blackbox > configuration > toolbar options > enable toolbar ?
[06:40] <soulrider> yes
[06:40] <soulrider> i had the toolbar
[06:40] <soulrider> but
[06:40] <soulrider> it didnt show anything in it when i minimized
[06:40] <soulrider> stuff just dissappeared
[06:41] <intelikey> minimizid apps go there in dapper    ????  8[
[06:41] <Jucato> does anyone have a newbie guide for Xen?
[06:41] <soulrider> intelikey:  ???
[06:41] <intelikey> idk maybe they added a bug in edgy soulrider
[06:42] <soulrider> maybe
[06:42] <soulrider> now
[06:42] <soulrider> i got another problem
[06:42] <soulrider> and its VERY annoying
[06:42] <soulrider> after a while of being connected
[06:42] <soulrider> some of my apps act as if i were offline
[06:42] <soulrider> for example
[06:42] <soulrider> im chatting with you right now
[06:42] <soulrider> but
[06:42] <manchicken> Okay, so I've got xgl running, but the resolution is hosed.
[06:42] <soulrider> i cant open any sites in opera or firefox
[06:42] <soulrider> or apt-get anything
[06:42] <manchicken> I can't find anything in the docs for that.
[06:42] <soulrider> i have to reconnect for anythign to work
[06:43] <Jucato> !xgl | manchicken
[06:43] <ubotu> manchicken: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:43] <Jucato> check that channel. I presume those who know about XGL are in there
[06:44] <intelikey> soulrider i'm networking illiterate  but that does not sound desktop related.    are you on a wifi card or something ?
[06:44] <soulrider> no
[06:44] <soulrider> cables
[06:44] <soulrider> i mean
[06:44] <soulrider> if i reconnect my dsl
[06:44] <soulrider> it works fine
[06:45] <soulrider> argh, brb, need to reconnect
[06:47] <intelikey> idk  i've never seen one have a working connection but other apps couldn't use the connection.     i have seen chat clients not work when they were connected and the connection reset on them    they have to be reconnected even tho they are still running and showing a channel and the connection is good.    they still ping out.          </shrugs>
[06:47] <soulrider> yeah
[06:47] <soulrider> but im connected
[06:47] <soulrider> hold on
[06:48] <Jucato> there were times when I can only connect to IRC and Torrent, but not to the web and IM's
[06:49] <Jucato> in my case it was a DNS problem...
[06:49] <intelikey> soulrider see Jucato     and good luck to your penguin
[06:49] <intelikey> i'm went
[06:49] <Jucato> quack
[06:49] <intelikey> i'm left
[06:49] <Jucato> :)
[06:50] <soulrider> oh
[06:50] <Jucato> you're down...
[06:50] <soulrider> Jucato: you got a dsl connnection too
[06:50] <soulrider> what did you do to fix it
[06:50] <Jucato> ADSL PPPoE
[06:50] <soulrider> yeah, i got an ADSL connection too
[06:50] <Jucato> you can connect to IRC but not the Web? (HTTP)
[06:50] <soulrider> yeah
[06:50] <Jucato> I changed DNS/nameservers
[06:50] <soulrider> also
[06:50] <soulrider> if i use rpppoe to connect
[06:50] <soulrider> it connects
[06:51] <soulrider> but nothing uses the connection
[06:51] <soulrider> how did you do that
[06:51] <Jucato> edited /etc/resolve.conf
[06:51] <soulrider> can you guide me ?
[06:51] <Jucato> I'm using the DNS provided by openDNS
[06:51] <Jucato> soulrider: ok. first make a backup of your original file.
[06:51] <Jucato> sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.orig
[06:52] <soulrider> done, im ready for editing
[06:52] <soulrider> i have
[06:52] <Jucato> hehe first we make a copy that will hold the new DNS
[06:52] <soulrider> nameserver 200.40.220.245
[06:52] <soulrider> nameserver 200.40.30.245
[06:53] <Jucato> sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf.newdns
[06:53] <Jucato> use these nameservers
[06:53] <K`zan> Crap, avr-gcc is an old one :-(
[06:53] <Jucato> nameserver 208.67.222.222
[06:53] <Jucato>  nameserver 208.67.220.220
[06:53] <soulrider> you sure it will work?
[06:54] <soulrider> those are not like
[06:54] <soulrider> india only or anything
[06:54] <Jucato> soulrider: http://www.opendns.com/start/unix.php
[06:54] <Jucato> I am not in india, fwiw
[06:54] <soulrider> Jucato: you have a funny name, as in real name
[06:54] <soulrider> i thought you wer ein india =/
[06:54] <Jucato> :P
[06:55] <Jucato> soulrider: anyway, did you put the 2 lines in the /etc/resolv.conf.newdns file?
[06:55] <soulrider> yes
[06:55] <Daisuke_Ido> i wonder how difficult it's going to be to get the original unreal tournament running under linux
[06:55] <soulrider> well
[06:55] <Jucato> soulrider: Ctrl+O to writeout/save, Ctrl+X to exit
[06:55] <soulrider> i kind of put it in resolv.conf :P
[06:55] <Daisuke_Ido> loki's site is down, so... :\
[06:55] <Jucato> soulrider: oh ok... well, here's the problem if you did it like that..
[06:56] <Jucato> soulrider: resovl.conf usually resets to the original DNS after a reboot
[06:56] <Jucato> well not 100%, but 95% of the time, iirc
[06:56] <soulrider> oh crap
[06:56] <soulrider> BRB
[06:56] <Jucato> soulrider: the reason I wanted you to put it in a separate file was so that changing from the original to the new dns would be as simple as "sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf.newdns /etc/resolv.conf"
[06:59] <soulrider> but i ahve to do it after every reboot ?
[06:59] <Jucato> soulrider: not really, only when your original DNS is acting up... I'm not sure how to make the changes permanent...
[07:00] <soulrider> you know, you can change the dns in the system settings thingy
[07:01] <Jucato> soulrider: yeah you could. but it also resets. this way, you have a backup
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> !iso
[07:01] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning.
[07:01] <Jucato> or theoretically, you would...
[07:03] <ubuntu> hello
[07:03] <kubuntu> hello?
[07:03] <kubuntu> anyone there?
[07:06] <matthew_> hello
[07:06] <matthew_> what's up?
[07:10] <e1> how do i make yakuake screen transparent to background
[07:11] <Jucato> right-click -> Schema ?
[07:11] <Jucato> Yakuake's settings are mostly like Konsoles
[07:11] <pulaski> hello
[07:14] <pulaski> I've got a new install of kubuntu edgy eft 6.10 and I occasionally hang on restart.  When I try to reboot after such a hang up kubuntu drops into initramfs.  Has anyone here experienced anything similar?
[07:19] <hilltop_> Good evening, anyone still up??
[07:20] <veronica> I am
[07:20] <hilltop_> Hi, been a long day , but I have a question:
[07:21] <hilltop_> I would lke to burn a DVD iso of the new KNOPPIX. K3b says it won't burn more than 4GB. KNOPPIX is about 4.3GB depending on how you count bytes. Using a KDE distro. Now what??
[07:21] <veronica> it's actually morning here but shoot
[07:21] <hilltop_> KNOPPIX is about 1.0043*4GB.
[07:21] <veronica> have you looked for another dvd burning program in repo?
[07:21] <hilltop_> 1GB is actually 4294967296 bytes.
[07:22] <veronica> odd k3b wont burn it though
[07:22] <lovloss> How do you program something in c++ that will create a window in KDE? o.o im tired of my programs only doing things on the comman line
[07:23] <Dasnipa`> lovloss, gtk
[07:23] <lovloss> Dasnipa`: gtk? :3 wassat
[07:23] <Jucato> Dasnipa`: you do know that KDE uses Qt, right?
[07:24] <Dasnipa`> i forget what the c++ wrappers are for gtk but that is a good option... QT is another good option
[07:24] <Jucato> lovloss: GTK and Qt are GUI toolkits that you can use to create GUI programs
[07:24] <Jucato> Dasnipa`: gtkmm
[07:24] <Dasnipa`> either are fine options
[07:24] <hilltop_> I'm willing to use a command line if need be. What would be a good program?
[07:24] <lovloss> So where do i go to get them ^_^
[07:25] <Jucato> Qt is already C++ based, and KDE uses Qt... so if you're planning to make GUI apps in KDE, Qt would be the primary and natural choice
[07:25] <Dasnipa`> yes Jucato is correct here
[07:25] <hilltop_> veronica, any ideas?
[07:26] <lovloss> Jucato: but where do i get it? or is it already her
[07:26] <Jucato> lovloss: Qt is already installed (because KDE uses it). I presume you already have the kde-devel package installed. KDevelop and QtDesigner would be the apps you will want to use
[07:26] <Dasnipa`> lovloss, it is a fairly complex library. you will first want to learn it but youll have to get the library so that you can compile programs with it
[07:26] <veronica> hilltop_: working on it ....
[07:27] <lovloss> Ohhh i see.... so i have to learn this library then
[07:27] <hilltop_> veronica, thank you.  I have a stack of books here and suddenly they seem worthless.
[07:27] <Jucato> lovloss: there are other options. Python can do GUI apps too, afaik
[07:27] <lovloss> true, but im going down the c/c++ path
[07:28] <Jucato> but since you're looking for C++, Qt (and gtkmm) would be the best for you
[07:28] <Jucato> or probably wxWidgets...
[07:28] <hilltop_> veronica, The DVD package says they store 4.7GB. shrug.
[07:28] <veronica> hilltop_: That happens. doesnt mean they are worthless
[07:29] <lovloss> now, this library existas on my computer i take it. Can i look at it? does it have a manual?
[07:29] <Dasnipa`> theyll have a tutorial on the website
[07:29] <Dasnipa`> and probably many books you could buy on it
[07:29] <lovloss> i see u.u
[07:30] <Dasnipa`> you can also take a look at it
[07:30] <Jucato> lovloss: the qt3-doc package has the Qt Documentation
[07:30] <Dasnipa`> and also programs that are written with it
[07:30] <Dasnipa`> for examples
[07:30] <lovloss> okie... guess i have my work cut out for me
[07:30] <Jucato> lovloss: there are lots of documentation out there... but take note that knowing how to program in Qt doesn't necessarily equate to programming in KDE...
[07:30] <lovloss> how do you view -doc packages btw? i coiuld never figure that out
[07:30] <hilltop_> veronica, the message from K3b said 4GB limit like it was some coding issue, I note that I could not back up the iso file to my FAT32 drive.
[07:30] <veronica> hilltop_: Gnomebaker says that it will burn dvd to 4.38 not sure if it will will do iso though
[07:31] <Jucato> lovloss: depends, usually they can be viewed in the KDE Help Center, or in KDevelop or QtDesigner once installed
[07:31] <lovloss> aha
[07:31] <lovloss> well im going to go try it out. thanks guys
[07:32] <veronica> hilltop_: what version of kubuntu are you using?
[07:32] <murchadh_bhaba> hilltop_: Max file size for a single file on a FAT32 is 4GB!
[07:32] <Jucato> lovloss: you might also want to check out http://developer.kde.org, http://developernew.kde.org, http://quality.kde.org, http://women.kde.org for some tutorials, if you're looking for KDE-specific programming stuff
[07:33] <veronica> hilltop_: murchadh_bhaba is right about that
[07:33] <hilltop_> veronica, 4 GB, right I knew that and so am now wondering about K3b.
[07:33] <murchadh_bhaba> hilltop_: You'll need room on a different partition for a full 4.7GB iso!
[07:33] <veronica> hilltop_: k3b works fine for me as long as it is ubder 4gb
[07:34] <veronica> hilltop_: *under
[07:34] <hilltop_> But DVD is not FAT32 unless it thinks I'm burning a data file I suppose. But I want to do an ISO. K3b is not clear on how to do that.
[07:34] <isede> i seem t ohave problems connecting via HTTPS both in firefox and opera. what can be the common cause?
[07:34] <veronica> hilltop_: now understanding the question correctly i dont think there is a fix. might be, but i dont think so,
[07:35] <murchadh_bhaba> hilltop_: Yeah, but the files might be using temp space on your FAT32 device during burning to the DVD. You do have a large FAT32?
[07:35] <hilltop_> Why would KNOPPIX guys put out an over sized iso? I think the iso is at the limit and K3b is not getting the message that I want too burn an iso.
[07:36] <veronica> hilltop_: could it have something to do with the chosen format?
[07:36] <manchicken> Sweet.  Got beryl running.  Wife will be thrilled.
[07:36] <hilltop_> I have plenty of room in my linux partition. Maybe the issue is not enough swap space??
[07:36] <Dasnipa`> hilltop_, how much swap?
[07:37] <hilltop_> manchicken, beryl is that 3D desktop, right?
[07:37] <manchicken> It's a composite xgl windowmanager.
[07:37] <murchadh_bhaba> hilltop_: Nah, check where k3b is storing it's files though. Make sure they aren't going to that FAT32. ?-)
[07:37] <manchicken> IIRC
[07:38] <hilltop_> I have 1 GB RAM, 2GB swap. That must be the problem.
[07:38] <Dasnipa`> hilltop_, that is not the problem
[07:38] <murchadh_bhaba> hilltop_: You'll never use all that!
[07:38] <Dasnipa`> 1GB is more than enough swap really that 2gb is a waste of 1 gb
[07:39] <hilltop_> Dasnipa, I read recently that to remaster an iso, you may need up to 5GB. That may have been referring to DVD, not sure.
[07:40] <Dasnipa`> hilltop_, the old standard back when ram was in low amts (64 mb, 128, etc) was 1.5-2x your ram. but now that ram is up in the 1gb plus area nobody needs more than 1gb swap
[07:41] <hilltop_> veronica, the chosen format for live DVD is what?  Must be FAT32, but I don't know.
[07:41] <Dasnipa`> hilltop_, im pretty sure id have heard a lotta people screaming if they had to have 5 gb of ram+swap to remaster a DVD that is ludacris
[07:41] <murchadh_bhaba> hilltop_: Yes, and on an ext2/3 partition (or one that doesn't have the 4GB limit). As long as k3b is unaware of your FAT32 partition, it isn't the issue.
[07:41] <veronica> hilltop not sure at the moment sorry
[07:42] <hilltop_> I'm just touching my swap, 592k. I have Mem used: 869348k, so no problem there.
[07:43] <murchadh_bhaba> hilltop_: What partitions have you mounted?
[07:46] <hilltop_> I have FAT32 mounted, / and /home mounted and a thumb.
[07:47] <hilltop_> There is lots of room, Konq says the iso is 0.43% too big, but when a burn is done it might be a different size anyways.
[07:48] <pogoj> Hello all
[07:49] <hilltop_> OK, truth to tell, I'm a noob at K3b. What is the proper way to burn an iso in K3b? I opened a project - must be a mistake.
[07:50] <hilltop_> OK how do I get rid of the project, I should have gone into tools to burn iso.
[07:51] <snowrichard> hill top you can type k3b file.iso on command line and it will open the iso burner part for you
[07:52] <hilltop_> Ah ha!! I'm in. I got the project closed and told tools to burn an iso. Up came a list of files - the only one is KNOPPIX.iso and selecting -- off it went. Thanks all.
[07:52] <snowrichard> right ok
[07:53] <firephoto> hilltop_: you can right click from konq too and select action > write image with k3b
[07:53] <hilltop_> Should be done is a few minutes, half way there now.  :)
[07:53] <veronica> hilltop_: yay
[07:54] <hilltop_> firephoto, thanks. This will get simpler by the minute. :)   Unlike certain legacy OSs. :)
[07:54] <snowrichard> cnn is replaying the new years parties again must be a slow news day
[07:55] <hilltop_> I clicked verify, so about 10 minutes maybe. Then KNOPPIX here I come...   BTW, I tried the KNOPPIX CD and have issues.
[07:56] <Chani> what p2p programs are popular these days? not bittorrent, the other stuff...
[07:56] <hilltop_> Anyone else notice the task bar disappears when going to workspaces 2 thru 4??
[07:56] <isede> where could i find a ready-made config file for the apt-get
[07:56] <isede> ?
[07:56] <hilltop_> I would ask KNOPPIX board - already did but no one home.  :)
[07:56] <Daisuke_Ido> hmmph
[07:57] <Mackasha> hello
[07:57] <Mackasha> anyone here?
[07:57] <Daisuke_Ido> UT seems to be a non-started.
[07:57] <Daisuke_Ido> starter*
[07:57] <Daisuke_Ido> Couldn't run Unreal Tournament (ut-bin). Is UT_DATA_PATH set?
[07:57] <Daisuke_Ido> i thought that was the installer's job!
[07:58] <Mackasha> anyone here?
[07:59] <Mackasha> hello!!
[07:59] <Jucato> !anyone
[07:59] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:59] <hilltop_> murchadh_bhaba I used to call myself newbie, but now after three years in Linux land, this is just part of the fun. Gotta love http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36635
[08:00] <Mackasha> how to install for ubuntu?
[08:00] <Mackasha> restart pc and boots?
[08:03] <hilltop_> firephoto, Oh oh, how do I know what K3b is done? I think it is.
[08:04] <firephoto> hilltop_: if your sound is working you'll know when it's done. should be a little progress bar that popped up too.
[08:04] <hilltop_> Mackasha, if you have kubuntu live CD, boot it and there is a menu item for installing.
[08:05] <hilltop_> firephoto, Does the popup go away when done, I wasn't watching (was over here cheering instead :)
[08:06] <Mackasha> hilltop_, how? i'm currenty in windows now do I need to restart my pc?
[08:06] <firephoto> no, you have to click close on the burning window... so you should have  a window showing you the progress or any errors
[08:06] <hilltop_> Reboot into CD (with CD in the machine), you need the bios to boot CD ahead of HD.
[08:06] <thechris> i need install help
[08:07] <thechris> i have the error "XFS may not be used on /boot"
[08:07] <Mackasha> don have
[08:07] <Chani> thechris: is /boot a separate partition?
[08:07] <thechris> there is no reason for this, but i do have an ext2 partition used for boot
[08:07] <Daisuke_Ido> thechris: change the filesystem in the partition manager to ext3, i think that's about all it allows
[08:07] <soulrider> Mackasha: did you burn the CD ?
[08:08] <soulrider> !my
[08:08] <Chani> huh. my /boot is ext2
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about my - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <veronica> i use ext2 for boot too
[08:08] <Mackasha> can teach me step by step?
[08:08] <thechris> Chani: it is on a different partition, but i can't get the installer to notice
[08:08] <hilltop_> firephoto, the window shows the md5 sum and it is correct. I think it was a success!! Cheers. Left over bubbly all around.
[08:09] <thechris> so there is no technical reason /boot can't be on xfs, why won't ubuntu allow it?
[08:09] <Chani> thechris: I hate the way the instalelrt handles partitions. iirc I didn't tell it about my /boot partition because it belonged to gentoo, then I manually copied the files over after it was done
[08:09] <thechris> Chani: same here, but it won't let me proceed unless i use ext3.
[08:09] <hilltop_> Mackasha, Do you have a kubuntu cd now?
[08:09] <soulrider> Mackasha: do you have Nero burning rom ?
[08:10] <soulrider> Mackasha: you need to put the CD image in the CD
[08:10] <thechris> and if XFS doesn't work, i'm not using ubuntu
[08:10] <soulrider> record a CD with kubuntu
[08:10] <Chani> thechris: weird, I nevre used ext3 at all; I have reiserfs
[08:10] <flaccid> how can i troubleshoot wpasupplicant. i cannot connect to wpa access points atm, only open ones
[08:10] <thechris> Chani: how?!  thats not even an option for me in ubuntu!
[08:10] <firephoto> hilltop_: did you click the burn button? it doesn't sound like you did. the md5 check takes a few seconds or longer if the system is slow.
[08:10] <Mackasha> can teach me step by step?
[08:11] <Chani> thechris: I set up my partitions with knoppix and just told the kubuntu cd to install to there instaed of doing any partitioning itself
[08:11] <hilltop_> murchadh_bhaba what do you mean?  Well I'll find out for sure when I boot into it tomorrow. It is very late here in California. :)
[08:11] <Chani> thechris: that was with a dapper livecd; maybe edgy changed things
[08:11] <firephoto> hilltop_: once it finishes checking the md5, click the start button, upper left.
[08:11] <thechris> Chani: nope.  this is edgy.
[08:12] <flaccid> edgy sux :)
[08:12] <thechris> maby the alternate install cd is needed.
[08:12] <Chani> possibly.
[08:12] <soulrider> Mackasha: i dont have windows
[08:13] <thechris> still, i wanting to use this on my fileserver if this works well, and i'm useing xfs on my fileserver, if xfs doesn't work, then i'll just stick with an xfs-suporting distro
[08:13] <hilltop_> firephoto, what does the start do??
[08:13] <Chani> thechris: I see no reason for it not to work other than the installer being stubborn and stupid
[08:14] <thechris> Chani: yes, i am aware that linux supports XFS for /boot.  i even have installs of such.  its pretty much just a broken installer
[08:15] <firephoto> hilltop_: it burns the cd/dvd (if that's what you're trying to do)
[08:15] <thechris> for some reason, i can't see this ending well.  i can only hope ubuntu improved in the last year
[08:15] <murchadh_bhaba> hilltop_: Just the article link you posted above. Good read. Good to see you got your DVD burnt. And goodnight!
[08:16] <flaccid> what to do when wpasupplicant doesn't work?
[08:16] <Chani> thechris: depends on your definition of 'improved' ;)
[08:16] <hilltop_> cool murchadh_bhaba, good night.
[08:17] <Chani> I'm *mostly* happy with edgy... but it's starting to get this I-know-what's-best-for-you attitude that's getting on my nerves
[08:17] <K`zan> Anyone run into this trying to install googlearth:
[08:17] <K`zan> ./googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:17] <K`zan> [
[08:17] <K`zan> Got all the libXcursor stuff installed and still no go :-(.
[08:17] <thechris> Chani: last year when i tried it, the installer didn't really work and I was left peicing togther the system.  multiple X11 sessions were unstable.  i returned to gentoo because gentoo work with X11 better.
[08:17] <hilltop_> firephoto, I think the DVD is already burned. I guess I could pop it out and back in again - see what is on it.
[08:18] <Jucato> QtParted (the partitioner used on the Kubuntu Desktop CD) doesn't recognize/format XFS and Reiser, afaik. use the Alternate Install CD instead
[08:18] <crimsun> K`zan, dpkg -l libxcursor1|grep ^ii
[08:18] <firephoto> hilltop_: if you never clicked that start button it isn't burned. but yeah, checking it won't hurt.
[08:18] <K`zan> crimsun: THanks much!
[08:18] <hilltop_> firephoto, OK, I'll click it, it did seem too easy. :)
[08:19] <crimsun> K`zan, that command only tells you if the package is in fact installed
[08:19] <K`zan> crimsun: ?? :
[08:19] <K`zan> {/usr/share/doc/avr-libc} $  dpkg -l libxcursor1|grep ^ii
[08:19] <K`zan> ii  libxcursor1    1.1.7-0ubuntu1 X cursor management library
[08:19] <K`zan> I need to reboot ?!?
[08:19] <hilltop_> Ah, much better, I see your progress bars now. :/
[08:20] <crimsun> K`zan, that seems fine, no need to reboot
[08:20] <K`zan> still getting same thing, perhaps I need to log my user out...
[08:21] <crimsun> K`zan, just running ``sudo ldconfig''
[08:22] <K`zan> same...
[08:22] <K`zan> ./googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:22] <crimsun> are you on amd64?
[08:22] <K`zan> Maybe reinstall yes.
[08:22] <K`zan> yes amd64
[08:22] <crimsun> Does Google Earth actually run on amd64?
[08:23] <K`zan> Another thing to add to the piles of stuff that doesn't :-(.
[08:23] <K`zan> !?
[08:23] <crimsun> i.e., try ``linux32 google-earth''
[08:23] <K`zan> rr
[08:24] <K`zan> linux32: command not found
[08:24] <crimsun> !linux32
[08:24] <ubotu> linux32: Wrapper to set the execution domain. In component main, is extra. Version 1-3 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 56 kB
[08:24] <K`zan> Not installed, installing now...  THanks!
[08:25] <crimsun> it'll only really help if the GoogleEarth you downloaded is in fact 32-bit
[08:25] <hilltop_> firephoto, verifying step now. Thanks for the final tip there. "Start"  hehe
[08:25] <firephoto> hilltop_: np
[08:25] <K`zan> Sigh, same...
[08:26] <kraut> moin
[08:26] <K`zan> crimsun: Will boot the 32bit gentoo box.  THanks, this 64 bit crap is a real PITA :).
[08:26] <fowlduck> yo, whattup
[08:26] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Hello!
[08:30] <hilltop_> firephoto, verifying step says error - Ooops. Female voice said Oh no!. Cute. but I should try one more time on another DVD. shrug.
[08:31] <firephoto> hilltop_: no idea on that. maybe the disc was just bad? you could try burning at a slower speed maybe too.
[08:31] <hilltop_> firephoto, These are rewritable discs, shall I try the same one???
[08:32] <hilltop_> I'll try overwrite at 4x.
[08:32] <Jucato> afaik, always burn at the slowest speed supported by the disk
[08:33] <Jucato> when burning ISO's
[08:33] <hilltop_> It says 4x on the package.
[08:33] <Jucato> then 4x it is. also try to check the "Verify written data" (or something like that) in K3b's options
[08:33] <hilltop_> OK if I overwrite, should it be formated? It is asking.
[08:34] <noiesmo> I'm trying to run Legends and I keep getting an error related to fonts but i have installed lots of fonts anyone had this problem
[08:34] <hilltop_> Jucato, I did check verify (as well one the first burn)
[08:37] <hilltop_> I_Eat_Plastic, you nic sounds like by DVD burner. :)
[08:38] <I_Eat_Plastic> hilltop: Like yours?
[08:40] <ayeizajedi> !ati
[08:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:55] <hilltop_> I_Eat_Plastic, my DVD burn this evening is not going well, on my second DVD.  :/
[08:56] <Daisuke_Ido> anyone familiar with shell scripting?
[08:56] <Daisuke_Ido> or at least enough to give me an idea of what's going wrong
[08:58] <I_Eat_Plastic> hilltop_: Lol, howso?
[09:07] <fowlduck> Daisuke_Ido: two things you can do, pastebin it and give us a link, or pastebin it and give the people in #bash a link
[09:09] <dope> can any of you guys get the adultswim.com fix to work?
[09:09] <I_Eat_Plastic> !
[09:10] <I_Eat_Plastic> !nvidia
[09:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:10] <hilltop_> I_Eat_Plastic, I'm getting errors, now on the second DVD. I think I'll call it a night on this one. :(
[09:11] <Daisuke_Ido> http://pastebin.com/849415
[09:11] <Daisuke_Ido> the highlighted line is the one that's (apparently) causing the problem
[09:15] <dope> can any of you guys get the adultswim.com fix to work?
[09:17] <ari-free> ok I am back
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago> !flash | dope
[09:17] <ubotu> dope: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:17] <ari-free> still couldn't get my monitor to stop flicker
[09:17] <ari-free> i know horizontal and vertical refresh rates
[09:18] <ari-free> i don't know how to change anything
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago> ari-free: it's on your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:19] <ari-free> ok how do i edit this
[09:19] <Admiral_Chicago> type kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf in run command
[09:19] <Admiral_Chicago> in your K menu
[09:23] <ari-free> ok
[09:24] <I_Eat_Plastic> !nvidia
[09:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:24] <I_Eat_Plastic> !mp3
[09:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:26] <I_Eat_Plastic> How can i tell if the nvidia drivers installed correctly?
[09:27] <ari-free> that worked
[09:27] <ari-free> and i set resolution to 16x12 @85
[09:27] <ari-free> now i can read
[09:29] <hyper_ch> good morning
[09:30] <veronica> how can i find out wht my video card is?
[09:30] <veronica> good morning
[09:30] <hyper_ch> veronica: in a terminal enter:   lspcia
[09:30] <hyper_ch> it will then output quite a few things..
[09:31] <JOSF> !zeroconf
[09:31] <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 132 kB
[09:31] <JOSF> !avahi
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avahi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <veronica> hyper_ch: says command not found
[09:31] <JOSF> I want to transfer files between a WinXP Home and Kubuntu Desktop host. No Samba installed. I want to use Zeroconf/avahi for it. Any step-by-step guides ?
[09:31] <hyper_ch> veronica: lspci | grep vga
[09:32] <JOSF> What is the difference between "use zeroconf in network" and "scan local network" in the network configurator ?
[09:32] <veronica> hyper_ch: no output
[09:32] <hyper_ch> veronica: lspci | grep VGA
[09:33] <veronica> hyper_ch:  ah okay. Thanks
[09:42] <ari-free> ok now how do i install firefox
[09:43] <hyper_ch> ari-free: through the command line?
[09:44] <ari-free> through kde
[09:44] <Jucato> look for Firefox in Add/Remove Programs or in Adept Manager
[09:44] <hyper_ch> ari-free: you can install it multiple way... either use a gui like adept or synaptic or use command line (even in KDE)
[09:45] <ari-free> ok in adept
[09:45] <sivaji> what is the function of  "<<" operator in c program
[09:45] <veronica> hyper_ch: a little of topic but do you know if kubuntu can run composites in vmware?
[09:45] <Jucato> sivaji: shift left bitwise operator?
[09:45] <hyper_ch> veronica: dunno
[09:46] <veronica> hyper_ch: okay just thought id ask in case
[09:46] <sivaji> what it does tell me with example
[09:46] <Jucato> sivaji: mabye people in ##c would know better
[09:46] <sivaji> 5<<1=10 how
[09:47] <sivaji> ok
[09:47] <ari-free> so if i select firefox from adept i still have to dload it? not quite sure how this works
[09:47] <Jucato> veronica: to be able to do composites, you need to have 3d hardware acceleration, which you can't do using the video drivers for vmware
[09:47] <veronica> Jucato: thank you
[09:48] <Jucato> ari-free: you're in Adept Manager? right-click to request install, then click on Apply Changes
[09:48] <Jucato> ari-free: basically what it will do is download the firefox package from Ubuntu's repositories, together with any other dependencies/packages it needs to run, and install it
[09:49] <hyper_ch> !adept | ari-free
[09:49] <ubotu> ari-free: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:50] <ari-free> i see firefox in adept manager
[09:50] <ari-free> not installed no change
[09:50] <Jucato> ari-free: yes, right-click on it, and select Request Install
[09:50] <ari-free> ok did that
[09:51] <ari-free> now what
[09:51] <ari-free> now says not installed install
[09:51] <Jucato> click on Preview Changes to see if it will get installed without removing anything, then click on Apply Changes
[09:52] <ari-free> ok now dloading!
[09:52] <ari-free> now i have firefox
[09:58] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago!!!!!
[09:58] <Jucato> happy new year! :)
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> ari-free: what version of Ubuntu are you on
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> same to you
[09:59] <ari-free> 6.10
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> that user was able to install KDE
[09:59] <ari-free> kubuntu
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> ari-free: yea you should be on 2.0 then
[09:59] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: kool. so what was the problem after all?
[10:00] <ari-free> so i have firefox. now i have something familiar
[10:00] <Admiral_Chicago> universe wasn't enabled
[10:00] <Jucato> heh :)
[10:00] <ari-free> oh i enabled everything
[10:00] <Jucato> probably a Dapper system. Edgy has universe enabled by default
[10:00] <Jucato> ari-free: oh we weren't talking about you :)
[10:00] <ari-free> yeah but still...i figured out how to do that
[10:01] <ari-free> :)
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> good. i didn't know edgy had universe enabled by default
[10:02] <Jucato> :)
[10:03] <crimsun> yeah, gotta update my blo...err, wait, no.
[10:04] <ari-free> ok error
[10:04] <ari-free> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database
[10:04] <Jucato> ari-free: what were you trying to do before this happened?
[10:04] <ari-free> i tried to install some nvidia driver
[10:04] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | ari-free
[10:04] <ubotu> ari-free: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:04] <Admiral_Chicago> do you even keep a blog?
[10:05] <Jucato> ari-free: do those commands in Konsole
[10:05] <ari-free> done
[10:05] <Jucato> now try installing again
[10:06] <spitwise> cool you can pipe to a user
[10:06] <ari-free> ok i see it says something with status broken
[10:07] <sivaji> i took back up for a file but i terminated that process before completion as a result of this i get large no of duplicate copies including unspecifed file what will be the reason for this
[10:07] <ari-free> i right click. do i request removal, reinstall or purge
[10:10] <Admiral_Chicago> goodnight all
[10:11] <ari-free> ok now adept won't load
[10:11] <metro-polisie> how do i un-upgrade me kubuntu?
[10:11] <ants> Hi all!
[10:11] <ari-free> is there something like task manager on windows where i can see processes and kill them
[10:12] <flaccid_> ari-free: crl+esc
[10:12] <metro-polisie> ari-free: Ctrl+Esc
[10:12] <ants> I have a problem upgrading edgy to feisty herd.
[10:13] <metro-polisie> how do i un-upgrade my kubuntu (dapper)? because dapper update broke nv+nvidia drivers\
[10:13] <ari-free> hmmm  don't see adept here
[10:14] <ari-free> why doesnt adept load
[10:14] <metro-polisie> ari-free: have u tried restarting?
[10:14] <ari-free> x or the whole system?
[10:15] <ants> I tried starting from CD and it says several mounting problems and busybox comes up and now i'm stuck
[10:15] <metro-polisie> XVampireX_: do u know how to un-upgrade my kubuntu (dapper)? because dapper update broke nv+nvidia drivers
[10:15] <ari-free> lets see
[10:15] <metro-polisie> the whole
[10:17] <ants> Have somebody had such a problem?
[10:18] <ari-free> well i got adept back
[10:18] <ari-free> but it is still broken
[10:18] <Li`lEndian> How do i download only mail headers in kmail?
[10:19] <ari-free> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[10:19] <isede> i am running kubuntu and it sems that everyhting related to cryptography stopped working - HTTPS in firefox and opera, also SSH. what did i screw up?
[10:20] <isede> i reinstalled openssl
[10:20] <isede> and ssh client
[10:20] <ari-free> now i can't install anything :(
[10:22] <Jucato> ari-free: run this command in konsole: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:22] <kraut> !aixgl
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aixgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:22] <kraut> !xgl
[10:22] <rich432> Can Beryl be installed on Kubuntu 6.06 dapper?
[10:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:23] <ari-free> says errors encountered while processing
[10:24] <ari-free>  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.17-10-386_2.6.17.1-10.34_i386.deb
[10:25] <ari-free> and when i bring up adept, still broken
[10:27] <ForgeAus> well Wolvix was ok but didn't last long...
[10:27] <ForgeAus> LunarLinux is like menu-driven gentoo! rofl
[10:28] <YazzY> hi guys
[10:28] <YazzY> Any of you use beryl with kubuntu ? I have problems with virtual desktops
[10:29] <YazzY> it shows one virtual desktop defined in the config but beryl shows 4
[10:29] <Jucato> !beryl | YazzY
[10:29] <ubotu> YazzY: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:29] <YazzY> thanks
[10:30] <ants> Have somebody tried to upgrade edgy to feisty herd?
[10:30] <ari-free> don't get me started...my adept doesn't work because i was trying to get the nvidia drivers so i could check out that opengl stuff
[10:30] <Jucato> ants: better ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:30] <ants> Ok, thanks.
[10:31] <Jucato> ari-free: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" again?
[10:31] <ari-free> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:31] <ari-free>  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386
[10:31] <ari-free>  nvidia-glx
[10:33] <ari-free> ok it's a much bigger output
[10:34] <ari-free> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386:
[10:34] <Jucato> ari-free: still not fixing it?
[10:34] <ari-free>  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386 depends on linux-image-2.6.17-10-386; however:
[10:34] <ari-free>   Package linux-image-2.6.17-10-386 is not installed.
[10:34] <ari-free> dpkg: error processing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386 (--configure):
[10:34] <ari-free>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[10:34] <ari-free> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of nvidia-glx:
[10:34] <ari-free>  nvidia-glx depends on nvidia-kernel-1.0.8776; however:
[10:34] <flaccid> !paste > ari-free
[10:34] <Jucato> !pastebin | ari-free
[10:34] <ubotu> ari-free: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:34] <ari-free>   Package nvidia-kernel-1.0.8776 is not installed.
[10:34] <ari-free>   Package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386 which provides nvidia-kernel-1.0.8776 is not configured yet.
[10:34] <ari-free> dpkg: error processing nvidia-glx (--configure):
[10:34] <ari-free>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[10:34] <ari-free> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:34] <ari-free>  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386
[10:34] <ari-free>  nvidia-glx
[10:34] <ari-free> oh :)
[10:35] <Jucato> ari-free: you're on Edgy, right?
[10:36] <ari-free> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/213/
[10:36] <ari-free> i think so. how do i check again
[10:36] <Jucato> 6.10?
[10:37] <ari-free> 6.10 edgy yup
[10:38] <Jucato> ari-free: what's the output of "uname -r" (in Konsole)
[10:38] <ari-free> 2.6.17-10-generic
[10:39] <Jucato> ok, try to install this: sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[10:39] <Jucato> after that, try installing nvidia again: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[10:39] <Jucato> hm...
[10:42] <ari-free> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/215/
[10:42] <ari-free> unmet dependencies
[10:43] <Jucato> ari-free: were you able to successfully install linux-generic?
[10:44] <ari-free> yes
[10:44] <Jucato> sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386
[10:46] <ari-free> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:46] <ari-free>   nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.8776
[10:46] <Jucato> ari-free: but the removal of that package finished?
[10:47] <ari-free> no
[10:47] <ari-free> it's broken
[10:47] <Jucato> hm...
[10:47] <ari-free> when i use adept it says broken
[10:48] <Jucato> ari-free: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic
[10:49] <Jucato> heh leave adept alone for a while...
[10:49] <ari-free> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386: Depends: linux-image-2.6.17-10-386 but it is not going to be installed
[10:50] <Jucato> hm.. this is getting annoying...
[10:51] <Jucato> ok... last try.. "sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386 nvidia-glx"
[10:51] <ari-free> oh boy
[10:52] <Jucato> :(
[10:52] <ari-free> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/217/
[10:52] <Jucato> I can only imagine your frustration... :(
[10:52] <ForgeAus> is konqueror depenant on Ark?
[10:52] <Jucato> ForgeAus: nope
[10:53] <ForgeAus> good :)
[10:53] <ari-free> yeah because i can't try installing anything until this works
[10:53] <ForgeAus> only because i prefer krusader or xarchiver for managing archived files...
[10:53] <ForgeAus> krusader is mostly unnecessary with konqueror as a file manager tho...
[10:54] <ForgeAus> unless you don't use konqueror's browsing or file management and use firefox instead...
[10:54] <ari-free> well
[10:54] <Jucato> ari-free: removing those two files, can you already run Adept?
[10:54] <ari-free> when i go to adept, there's nothing in preview changes
[10:54] <ari-free> so theres nothing broken
[10:55] <ari-free> this could mean it worked :)
[10:55] <Jucato> ari-free: I believe so :)
[10:55] <Jucato> ForgeAus: I almost use Konqueror for everything...
[10:55] <Jucato> "almost"
[10:56] <zeek> could anyone explain vmware to me a little better?
[10:56] <zeek> I have it installed on kubuntu edgy, but I don't understand the vmx file
[10:57] <Jucato> zeek: a vmx file is sort of like an ISO (CD Image), except it's a VMWare Image
[10:58] <zeek> where do i obtain one? I originally thought I could use vmware to run my windows xp install on anothe parition
[10:58] <Jucato> zeek: hm... you could look around the internet for XP .vmx images, or search for "vmware" in http://wiki.kubuntu.org
[10:59] <zeek> alright thanx. Is there no program around to run windows from my harddrive?
[10:59] <ForgeAus> um there is xp images
[11:00] <ForgeAus> you can get a kubuntu iso to install IN XP or microsofts XP SP2 (with ie6) "appliance" image from within other os's to run in vmware
[11:00] <ari-free> ok now i installed thunderbird
[11:00] <Jucato> zeek: nope... you basically have to either use an XP vmx or install XP on vmware
[11:00] <ForgeAus> sofar I h avn't found a MacOS "appliance" yet :(
[11:00] <ForgeAus> looking for one of them
[11:01] <zeek> my goal is to run windows in a window on my kubuntu desktop
[11:01] <ForgeAus> zeek kewl then get vmware player
[11:01] <ForgeAus> and microsofts XP+SP2 + ie6 "appliance"
[11:01] <ForgeAus> that should work... in theory
[11:01] <zeek> but preferably my own already configured windows xp (I dual boot)
[11:02] <ForgeAus> (well not + ie6 is part of it) its for browser testing purposes for developers..
[11:02] <ForgeAus> you might need to convert the appliance/image format to a vmx if its from microsoft because it might be in virtual PC format
[11:02] <Jucato> zeek: well... you can't... or not that I'm aware of
[11:02] <ForgeAus> but you can download the VMware converter for free
[11:02] <ForgeAus> Jucato you can
[11:03] <ForgeAus> I run my kubuntu basically the other way around
[11:03] <Jucato> ForgeAus: basically he wants to be able to run his XP installation in VMWare
[11:03] <ForgeAus> XP is my base operating system
[11:03] <ForgeAus> yes Jucato
[11:03] <Jucato> hm..
[11:03] <ForgeAus> I run my Kubuntu from in VMware in a base XP installation
[11:03] <ForgeAus> all he needs to do is get a .vmx of XP that works....
[11:04] <Jucato> and your Kubuntu is installed on your hard disk?
[11:04] <zeek> yes
[11:04] <Jucato> er sorry, that question was for ForgeAus
[11:04] <ForgeAus> and microsoft are supplying an image of XPSP2 pre ie7 for browser-development purposes
[11:04] <Jucato> ForgeAus: and your Kubuntu is installed on your hard disk?
[11:04] <ForgeAus> jucato no in a virtual machine
[11:04] <ForgeAus> well it is on my hard drive but the drive is a file
[11:04] <ForgeAus> so I'm runing linux within XP
[11:05] <ForgeAus> (not using cygwin)
[11:05] <ForgeAus> it does a way better KDE than cygwin would anyhow :)
[11:05] <Jucato> ForgeAus: well that's the problem. this is what zeek wants to do: he already has an existing XP installation on his hard disk. he wants to run *that* installation in VMWare on Kubuntu
[11:05] <ForgeAus> ahh um as long as he isn't booting from it
[11:05] <ForgeAus> he should be able to
[11:05] <ForgeAus> just reference the XP drive as the HD
[11:06] <manuel_> hi
[11:06] <zeek> how would I do that?
[11:06] <ForgeAus> personally if you can (it might not be possible depending on what data you require) its better to install a fresh XP into a new virtual machine rather than use an existing partition
[11:06] <rich432> how do I find out what driver I need for GeForceFX5900 Ultra?
[11:07] <cpk1> anyone see this java error before? # Problematic frame: # C  [libglibjni-0.4.so+0x8d02] 
[11:07] <ForgeAus> zeek um do a websearch for additional VM tools to edit the .VMX file
[11:07] <zeek> if I have to have a new install I would rather just keep restarting to get to windows and vise versa
[11:07] <manuel_> how can i activate the numlock on x startup?  i have found a howto : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16891 but this is for gdm and not kdm
[11:07] <ForgeAus> the player doesn't have the kind of options you get from the non-free server to mess around with the hardware ... but theres free utility packages that do more
[11:07] <manuel_> i can't find a /etc/X11/kdm/Init/Default
[11:07] <Jucato> manuel_: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard
[11:07] <ForgeAus> at least for windows, I'm sure there'd be linux equivalents
[11:07] <Jucato> manuel_: you don't need to go through all those stuff
[11:08] <ForgeAus> (if not you might need to convert it to qemu format temporarily, more likely to be linux utils for editing/configuring them)
[11:08] <Xero> hi can anyone help me?
[11:09] <ForgeAus> another option I know little about might be Xen... but thats a pot luck one for me at this point I have no idea what it lets you do, I havn't tried it before
[11:09] <Jucato> yeah, I wanna try Xen too
[11:09] <Jucato> !anyone | Xero
[11:09] <ubotu> Xero: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:09] <ForgeAus> theres a free express version
[11:09] <dny> hi! hab mal ne frage zur installation. wenn ich bereits einen bootmanager habe mit mehreren systemen zur auswahl (suse, windows), bleiben diese optionen nach der installation automatisch erhalten? oder muss ich da selber rumwerkeln
[11:09] <ForgeAus> I just havn't got around to trying it yet
[11:10] <ForgeAus> is that german or dutch or something?
[11:10] <manuel_> this activate the numlock in kde but NOT in KDM
[11:10] <zeek> so I need an iso image for vmwware to use?
[11:10] <zeek> thats what this wiki is telling me
[11:10] <ForgeAus> zeek thats one way
[11:10] <ForgeAus> yes
[11:10] <dny> ForgeAus: German, sorry wrong channel...
[11:10] <Xero> "does anyone" have the ability to help me install kubuntu or has ever had a problem like mine, where after you press "install kubuntu" and it checks your system it goes to a black window
[11:10] <ForgeAus> or download a preinstalled image
[11:10] <zeek> whats the other way?
[11:10] <ForgeAus> either way
[11:11] <Jucato> manuel_: ahh... hm...
[11:11] <ForgeAus> but if you want to use your existing installation just refer to that drive
[11:11] <ForgeAus> grrr you can't just refer to it without server or aditional tools to edit your .vmx tho
[11:11] <zeek> refer to that drive in replace of referring to an iso image in the vmx file?
[11:12] <ForgeAus> um zeek what I've got installed is server... it lets you modify the .vmx and disk images
[11:12] <manuel_> any ideas?
[11:12] <ForgeAus> (limited options but you can modify them)... theres free tools that extend that even further and let you mount them as a drive and stuff under XP at least...
[11:12] <ForgeAus> not so sure about under linux tho
[11:13] <Jucato> manuel_: only idea I have is google... there might be relevant information
[11:13] <ForgeAus> in fact with ext2ifs you can even use your virtual (linux) drive as if it were a native windows drive!!!
[11:13] <MidMark> hi, is there a non-graphical way to set the monitor under kubuntu?
[11:14] <ForgeAus> that one had me shocked anyway! lol
[11:14] <crube> Is there I way to get my system tray icons to show in two lines instead of big icons
[11:14] <Xero> Is there a way to stop the kubuntu installation from going to an endless black screen and actually install it on my system?
[11:14] <ForgeAus> but server isn't free... vmware player is
[11:14] <Jucato> crube: system tray icons never change sizes. to make them show up in 2 rows, you have to make the the panel larger
[11:15] <Jucato> ForgeAus: depends on your definition of "free"
[11:15] <manuel_> i have used it
[11:15] <zeek> I could do what I need to do with server?
[11:15] <ForgeAus> so if you do a web search for additional vmware software you might be lucky enough to get something that can modify further
[11:15] <ForgeAus> Jucato, if you say, find a registry key from somewhere that works its "free" lol :)
[11:15] <Jucato> VMWare Server is free, not free software
[11:15] <ForgeAus> the player itself although proprietrry software its free... and doesn't require registration
[11:15] <Jucato> ForgeAus: yeah, you need the registration key by registering for free in vmware.com
[11:15] <ForgeAus> the server is only free for a trial basis
[11:15] <Jucato> not really
[11:16] <Jucato> I've been using it for more than 2 months
[11:16] <ForgeAus> oh server is a free registration?
[11:16] <Jucato> I think you're thinking of vmware workstation
[11:16] <ForgeAus> I didn't try registering it so I wasn't aware you didn't need to pay for the process
[11:16] <rich432> Should I install 6.10 or wait for bugs in 6.10 to be fixed?
[11:17] <Jucato> it's been free for quite some time now
[11:17] <ForgeAus> for mine I had an old a workstation key that worked for it anyway...
[11:17] <zeek> 6.10 works great for me
[11:17] <dope> when running a make file how do i download the dependencies
[11:17] <Xero> so i suppose no one knows how to fix what i'm talking about?
[11:17] <crube> Jucato:  yeah that seems to work. They were in one row when the size was normal, but after changing to large and back to normal they went in two lines just fine :)
[11:17] <ForgeAus> so I never actually tried registering the server verions
[11:17] <MidMark> rich432: 6.10 has a lot of bugs fixed, but some introduced :(
[11:17] <ForgeAus> and since it required a key I just assumed it wasn't free
[11:17] <fowlduck> server is free
[11:17] <ForgeAus> thats kewl :)
[11:17] <fowlduck> as in free beer
[11:17] <fowlduck> forever
[11:17] <Jucato> you assume too much :P
[11:18] <ForgeAus> I still need a MacOSX virtual disk! lol
[11:18] <ForgeAus> (or iso)
[11:18] <dope> anyone know how to get dependecies so i can use the makefile?
[11:18] <ForgeAus> and that one (shouldn't legally) be free
[11:18] <Xero> ....
[11:18] <Xero> oh well ill just email linux or somehting..
[11:18] <fowlduck> but if you're using server instead of workstation copy (and you don't need the server functionality) you need to be smacked up like a four-year-old-redheaded-stepchild-in-kmart
[11:18] <ForgeAus> unless Apple supply it themselves somehow (hopefully not for a fee)
[11:19] <fowlduck> nope
[11:19] <dope> so no one knows how to use this makefile stuff
[11:19] <cpk1> dope: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[11:20] <dope> already got that
[11:20] <fowlduck> dope: so what's the question?
[11:20] <dope> but there's dependencies i need before i can run the make file
[11:20] <ForgeAus> and theres little chance of Apple doing that
[11:20] <dope> when i run ./configure it says i'm missing stuff
[11:20] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: there is zero chance
[11:20] <Jucato> dope: you install the dependencies from the repositories, or compile them yourself, too
[11:20] <dope> is there a way to automatically get whatever it is
[11:20] <fowlduck> dope: what does it say you're missing
[11:20] <ForgeAus> also HPFS partitions aren't as easy to mess with from within XP
[11:20] <cpk1> then try to apt-get whats missing
[11:20] <fowlduck> no, you need to get it yourself
[11:20] <dope> checking for COMPIZ... configure: error: Package requirements (libpng                    xcomposite              xfixes                  xdamage                 xrandr                  xinerama             ice                     sm                      libstartup-notification-1.0 >= 0.7) were not met:
[11:20] <fowlduck> and make sure you install the dev packages for whatever software it mentions
[11:21] <Jucato> fowlduck: sometimes you don't have to, if the version in the repos satisfy the dependencies
[11:21] <crimsun> dope, easily worked around with ``apt-get build-dep compiz''
[11:21] <ForgeAus> fowl, theres always illegally d/ling it from P2P but I'd rather find a legal way taht doesn't cost me anything first... I just don't think there is one at this point
[11:21] <fowlduck> dope: crimsun to the rescue
[11:21] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: there isn't a legal free way
[11:22] <dope> will "make uninstall" uninstall a program?
[11:22] <Jucato> if it's already installed, yes
[11:22] <fowlduck> hmm, i thought there was a way to make it so that it can be uninstalled, i think this is another crimsun question
[11:22] <Jucato> and only if you kept the build output
[11:23] <crimsun> actually it depends on two things only: 1) Makefile.ins have appropriate uninstall targets; 2) ./configure has been executed, generating Makefiles from Makefile.ins
[11:23] <Jucato> best way to install stuff without making them into packages would be to separate source code, build directory, and installation directory, and use the ./configure --prefix= option to install in some place in your home directory or somewhere you don't need root access
[11:26] <ForgeAus> fowlduck not at the moment but theres alway darwin to fall back on legally
[11:26] <ForgeAus> and also MacOs7.5 or something in basilliskII was legally downloadable from apple themselves for no charge
[11:26] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: yes, but that's hardly osx ;)
[11:26] <ForgeAus> its pre OSX of course
[11:27] <ForgeAus> actually I don't get the point of darwin
[11:27] <ForgeAus> if you install a windowmanager over the top of it it can't be aqua right?...
[11:27] <ForgeAus> has to be a linux one?...
[11:27] <ForgeAus> if thats the case then why get darwin when you can get kubuntu?
[11:27] <ForgeAus> what possible reason could one have for wanting darwin?
[11:28] <ForgeAus> I'm guessing the filesystem is different (HPFS) is there any improvement from that??
[11:29] <ForgeAus> hmmm it'd be even kewler if you could install aqua as an alternative to your linux window manager! (like KDE, Gnome, WMaker, Fluxbox, Enlightenment etc)
[11:30] <ForgeAus> I know theres some apps that theme Linux like Aqua to look at but the applications are another story right?
[11:31] <ForgeAus> even a MacOSX-like Docking bar for KDE... but Adium (instant messenger, I think I spelt it right) won't install under linux would it?
[11:31] <Jucato> being able to use aqua as an alternative window manager (presuming Aqua is a window manager) doesn't mean you can run Aqua apps
[11:31] <e1> !darwin
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about darwin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <ForgeAus> jucato?
[11:32] <Jucato> nvm :)
[11:32] <e1> what's darwin
[11:32] <ForgeAus> its the base os behind aqua on MacOS
[11:33] <e1> is anyone running kiba dock on kubuntu edgy, just wanted to know cuz i couldn't get mine to work, and i'm not trying to right now, just wanted to know lol
[11:33] <ForgeAus> its like an alternative of Linux/BSD operating system that mac have just slapped a "window manager?" called Aqua on for the user interface...
[11:33] <ForgeAus> and Aqua seems to be the part they're trying to protect for some strange reason
[11:34] <ForgeAus> so names and versions update like kubuntu has edgy and dapper, macOSX has 10.8, 10.8, etc with names like tiger and panther and the newest one coming (or already here?) is leopard... I think...
[11:34] <ForgeAus> grr 10.8 10.9 that was meant to b
[11:34] <dope> when i run compiz my title bars disappear
[11:35] <ForgeAus> compiz? isn't that like related to beryl somehow?
[11:35] <dope> they do about the same thing
[11:35] <dope> i had the same prob with beryl too
[11:35] <Jucato> dope: maybe the guys in #ubuntu-xgl would know better
[11:35] <ForgeAus> um its nto suprising that title bars vanish you need a decorator like emeryld or aquamarine to go with it
[11:35] <dope> maybe i need that xgl thing
[11:36] <dope> the new one is supposed to use the kde decoorator
[11:36] <ForgeAus> you already have xgl if your beryl is working
[11:36] <dope> it hought
[11:36] <dope> beryl didn't work right
[11:36] <ForgeAus> is it?
[11:36] <ForgeAus> I havn't heard of a beryl that uses KDE decorators... but that sounds kewl :)
[11:36] <Jucato> compiz/beryl = window managers, emerald/aquamarine = window decorations for beryl
[11:37] <Jucato> ForgeAus: I think aquamarine lets you do that
[11:37] <ForgeAus> yeah Jucato I'm pretty sure I had that worked out
[11:37] <dope> http://forum.go-compiz.org/viewtopic.php?t=331
[11:37] <ForgeAus> ahh aquamarine is the decorator that imports/uses pre-existing KDE ones?
[11:37] <Jucato> yeah, I think so
[11:37] <ForgeAus> IC
[11:37] <ForgeAus> well then I hda heard about it I just didn't know I knew it :)
[11:37] <Jucato> haven't tried it out personally, but thats what I heard
[11:38] <dope> says kde-window-decorator
[11:38] <Jucato> dope: you must remember that compiz is one camp, and beryl/emerald/aquamarine is another
[11:38] <ForgeAus> also dope your desktop icons if you have any are likely to be gone/non-functional under beryl (and I assume if its related same with compriz)
[11:39] <dope> this is a fresh install of kubuntu
[11:39] <Jucato> also, beryl has had this ability through aquamarine for quite a while now. seems like compiz is only adding it now
[11:39] <dope> beryl hasn't been on this install
[11:39] <dope> i just want compiz to work :|
[11:39] <dope> so i have to get the aquarium thing?
[11:39] <ForgeAus> does aquamarine work for compriz too? or just beryl?
[11:39] <Jucato> nah. if you're using compiz (which you had to install, too, I presume), you don't need aquamarine
[11:39] <Jucato> beryl only, afaik
[11:40] <ForgeAus> then does compriz need a decorator?
[11:40] <Jucato> dope: anyway, like I said, most of the experienced compiz/beryl users are in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:40] <Jucato> ForgeAus: I think it's built-in
[11:40] <ForgeAus> hmmm then I'm not sure how to help... Jucato's suggestion of ubuntu-xgl is your best bet dope
[11:40] <dope> yea i'm there :)
[11:41] <dope> do i need to d/l xgl?
[11:41] <ForgeAus> not likely
[11:41] <ForgeAus> kubuntu has xgl builti n
[11:41] <gnomefreak> compiz uses your window manager for decoration
[11:41] <Jucato> Edgy only :)
[11:41] <ForgeAus> or at least some version/part of it
[11:41] <dope> well i dunno
[11:41] <Jucato> hi gnomefreak!! happy new year :)
[11:41] <ForgeAus> oh yeah good point jucato
[11:41] <dope> i've always had window border problems
[11:41] <ForgeAus> I'm so used to edgy..
[11:41] <dope> the title bars just disappear :(
[11:41] <gnomefreak> hi Jucato happy new year to you :)
[11:41] <Jucato> actually, I think Edgy has AIGLX, not XGL, enabled by default...
[11:42] <ForgeAus> dope which distro of kubuntu you got? edgy dapper breezy badger feisty?...
[11:42] <ForgeAus> jucato that sounds right
[11:42] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey everyone!
[11:42] <gnomefreak> window boarder issue was a beryl issue not so much compiz
[11:42] <dope> edgy
[11:42] <ForgeAus> but with AIGLX you don' tneed XGL too right?
[11:42] <MilhousePunkRock> I am helping my brother-in-law to install Kubuntu through the phone
[11:43] <ForgeAus> the beryl site mentioned something about not requiring somethingb ecause AIGLX was built into edgy already
[11:43] <gnomefreak> aiglx + nvidia 9xxx you dont need xgl. for ati i think you still need xgl for beryl
[11:43] <ForgeAus> which was why they pointed to a repository instead of just an rpm (for other systems), etc installer..
[11:44] <MilhousePunkRock> It is installed now, I wanted to set up Grub for dual boot with Windows...
[11:44] <paolo> Hi. I can see my network card listed in lspci as "unknown network controller". however it doesn't appear as eth0: what should I do?
[11:44] <ForgeAus> Millhouse that I'd like to know too...
[11:44] <ForgeAus> how do you get grub to boot into a non-linux partition?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> ForgeAus: it should give you a choice
[11:45] <ForgeAus> either that or ntldr to boot into kubuntu?
[11:45] <gnomefreak> MilhousePunkRock: windows shouod have been detected during grub install/set up
[11:45] <MilhousePunkRock> ForgeAus: I think there is a default entry in what you call "menu.lst"
[11:45] <dope> well crap there go my title bars again
[11:45] <MilhousePunkRock> gnomefreak: Nothing mentioned about Grub so far, what I was trying to do is mount / and edit the menu.lst accordingly
[11:45] <dope> compiz.real: Failed to lookup getCompPluginInfo in 'libpng.so' plugin
[11:46] <ForgeAus> dope maybe you do need xgl? is there any harm in trying it
[11:46] <dope> i dunno
[11:46] <dope> we'll see
[11:46] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: should have been automatically detected. won't ask you anything during the installation if installing from the Live CD
[11:46] <gnomefreak> MilhousePunkRock: grub comes at end of install its the last thing that the installer does
[11:47] <MilhousePunkRock> gnomefreak, Jucato: So you think we should try rebooting?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> MilhousePunkRock: yes you have to after you install ubuntu
[11:47] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: yep
[11:47] <Jucato> *cough*kubuntu*cough*
[11:47] <ForgeAus> or xubuntu :) rofl
[11:47] <gnomefreak> Jucato: *ubuntu
[11:48] <ForgeAus> wb dope
[11:48] <dope> :/
[11:48] <MilhousePunkRock> I never set up a dual boot for Kubuntu myself... We'll see, he is rebooting now
[11:48] <ForgeAus> any luck?
[11:48] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:49] <ForgeAus> might come in handy for all this *nix stuff
[11:49] <makuseru> does anyone ever use the input zoom?
[11:49] <makuseru> its really neat
[11:49] <ForgeAus> input zoom?
[11:49] <dope> damn, still no title bars
[11:49] <ForgeAus> not even sure what your talkinga bout
[11:49] <gnomefreak> dope: beryl with nvidia card?
[11:50] <makuseru> input enabled zoom
[11:50] <makuseru> zooms in on desktop
[11:50] <dope> compiz with nvidia
[11:50] <gnomefreak> dope: try in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:50] <dope> they're sleeping in there
[11:50] <ForgeAus> dope sounds like you have another kinda problem... (anything from that plugin you mentioned to something that drives the plugin)
[11:50] <gnomefreak> dope: there are manuals in the topic that might help
[11:51] <ForgeAus> lol dope I get where your coming from
[11:51] <ForgeAus> ppl scream at you for talking off topic but where they send you to an on-topic place nobody's available there...
[11:51] <ForgeAus> its annoying right?
[11:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Seems like grub was installed properly and a boot menu created...
[11:51] <Jucato> you can't help it... we don't control when people are available in channels...
[11:51] <gnomefreak> someone is in there if he needs more help other than whats in topic
[11:51] <Jucato> everyone's a volunteer
[11:52] <Jucato> no one's being paid to answer questions... or to stay awake and wait for those questions...
[11:53] <ForgeAus> Jucato yeah its ok I'm just saying that if nobody's there he's likely to get more help here in that kubuntu is the base OS he's trying to run this stuff from... and someone else here may have had experience tryign to run it before...
[11:53] <ForgeAus> lol jucato even worse for me I'm in Australia
[11:53] <dope> i'm just hitting brick walls with beryl and compiz so i guess it's not for my system
[11:53] <ForgeAus> so when I'm awake for you guys its the middle of the night mostly! rofl
[11:53] <ForgeAus> assuming your from America that is
[11:53] <makuseru> dope: whats your peoplem?
[11:53] <gnomefreak> dope: where did you get that version of compiz? the newest is 3.4
[11:53] <Jucato> ForgeAus: true. but then we have specialized channels for special situations/configurations... otherwise we'd all be in *gasp* #ubuntu
[11:53] <ForgeAus> lol flaccid :)
[11:54] <flaccid> heya
[11:54] <Jucato> ForgeAus: I'm quite near you :P
[11:54] <ForgeAus> ahh interesting :)
[11:54] <flaccid> where you again jucy
[11:54] <ForgeAus> NZ?
[11:54] <ForgeAus> or Asia?
[11:54] <Jucato> dope: yep... sad truth... compiz/beryl is not for everyone...
[11:54] <Jucato> SE Asia
[11:54] <ForgeAus> hmmm ok my first two guesses would be... indonesia, or singapore
[11:54] <makuseru> dope: whats your problem?
[11:55] <flaccid> philippinese?
[11:55] <flaccid> oops bad spelling
[11:55] <Jucato> lol
[11:55] <Jucato> flaccid: yep. but -e :)
[11:55] <flaccid> yeah i'm drunk jucy
[11:55] <flaccid> :)
[11:55] <ForgeAus> whats it like over there these days?
[11:55] <flaccid> it would be um, beautiful
[11:55] <flaccid> hehe
[11:56] <Jucato> hm... unbelievably quiet...
[11:56] <ForgeAus> after the big mess in the when was it 80's? with that female head of state (prime minister? president?)...
[11:56] <dope> i'm just through with it
[11:56] <Jucato> japan...
[11:56] <flaccid> japan is expensive. i'd love to go but
[11:56] <ForgeAus> the one that took over from imelda markos and her extreme amount of shoes...
[11:56] <MilhousePunkRock> OK, what would be the next step in order to get Dial-Up-DSL working (with a modem that claims to be Linux-friendly)
[11:56] <Jucato> ok... getting offtopic here :)
[11:57] <makuseru> any overseas travel is expensive
[11:57] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: dialup DSL?
[11:57] <flaccid> !ppp
[11:57] <ubotu> ppp: Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon. In component main, is standard. Version 2.4.4rel-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 320 kB, installed size 1016 kB
[11:57] <flaccid> !pppd
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pppd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <flaccid> !adsl
[11:57] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[11:57] <Jucato> ForgeAus: imelda was the wife of the president
[11:57] <ForgeAus> Jucato yeah
[11:57] <flaccid> ^^^ sorry guys, try dat MilhousePunkRock
[11:57] <ForgeAus> then some other lady took over... right?
[11:57] <Jucato> actually, simply pppoeconf would do :) (PPPoE ADSL)
[11:58] <flaccid> Jucato: unless they need PPPoATM
[11:58] <flaccid> :)
[11:58] <Jucato> :P
[11:58] <makuseru> oops <<
[11:58] <flaccid> no wonder you are nice block Jucato
[11:58] <flaccid> errr
[11:58] <flaccid> a nice bloke. as in nice guy
[11:58] <ForgeAus> lol
[11:59] <ForgeAus> flaccid your lucky many people read typoese
[11:59] <Jucato> :P
[11:59] <flaccid> forge, i recommend grant's scotch its good
[11:59] <flaccid> heheh
[11:59] <flaccid> but yeah fillos fill a chunk of the world's best DJs....
[12:00] <Jucato> :)
[12:00] <ForgeAus> thats interesting
[12:00] <flaccid> yep its interesting alright
[12:00] <Jucato> most DJ's here have very kool voices. just don't look at their faces :P
[12:00] <ForgeAus> I love DJ's, at least for dance-trance-club-house-techno  style music...
[12:01] <flaccid> Jucato: i think you mean an MC
[12:01] <flaccid> ForgeAus: you know the avalanches?
[12:01] <Jucato> no. I meant a DJ
[12:01] <ForgeAus> MC is Master of Ceremonies right?
[12:01] <flaccid> ForgeAus: correct
[12:01] <flaccid> Jucato: hehe ok i think i get ya
[12:01] <flaccid> :)
[12:01] <Jucato> :P
[12:01] <fowlduck> e1: i was gonna tell you something on #ubuntu but you left
[12:02] <e1> fowlduck o thx alot
[12:02] <e1> fowlduck what was it
[12:02] <ForgeAus> um avelanches are things taht happen when rocks or snow falls down a mountain! rofl
[12:02] <fowlduck> e1: logmein won't work for you, but hamachi should create a VPN which will allow you to remote desktop without having to open ports
[12:02] <e1> fowlduck yeah i went to grab something to eat =)
[12:02] <paolo> Hi. I can see my network card listed in lspci as "unknown network controller". however it doesn't appear as eth0: what should I do?
[12:02] <flaccid> well anyone dj dexter is fillo
[12:02] <ForgeAus> but in context with DJ's and MC's I highly doubt I'm talking about the same thing you are!
[12:02] <flaccid> so is qbert, so is heaps more
[12:02] <e1> fowlduck cool, thx so much, is it because logmein is only for windows?
[12:02] <fowlduck> e1: precisely
[12:03] <e1> fowlduck cool =)
[12:03] <e1> fowlduck i'll try hamachi then, looking forward to possibly seting up remote desktop, it'd be a big "finally" =)
[12:03] <fowlduck> e1: really it's because logmein's destination clientserverthing is only for windows, the side that is doing the remoting just needs a web browser
[12:03] <flaccid> ForgeAus: you know that song 'frontier psychiatrist' ?
[12:03] <ForgeAus> uh.. no
[12:04] <e1> fowlduck cool, so window server, anything client right
[12:04] <fowlduck> yep
[12:04] <flaccid> !krdc
[12:04] <ubotu> krdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 498 kB, installed size 968 kB
[12:04] <e1> btw, is anyone else's firefox on kubuntu edgy not able to view cnn online wmv videos
[12:04] <flaccid> ^^^ probably the better client
[12:04] <e1> i can see it with konqueror
[12:05] <e1> is there a game channel btw
[12:05] <fowlduck> e1: *shrugs*
[12:06] <e1> hehe just wanted to find cool games to try out =)
[12:06] <fowlduck> e1: wolfenstein: enemy territory, is a nice one
[12:06] <Jucato> e1: you need a plugin for firefox, afaik. not really sure which
[12:06] <ForgeAus> how about terminal services client? I guess that isn't free tho?? CAL's?
[12:06] <fowlduck> e1: and it's free
[12:06] <ForgeAus> some linux distribution I was toying with had it
[12:06] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: krdc
[12:07] <flaccid> krdc does it all...
[12:07] <flaccid> rdp and vnc
[12:07] <fowlduck> !krdc | ForgeAus
[12:07] <ubotu> krdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 498 kB, installed size 968 kB
[12:07] <e1> fowlduck cool thx, i tried the win32codec, mplayer, mozilla mplayer plugin and kmplayer, still didn't work on firefox, but it works on konqueror, just annoying =)
[12:07] <fowlduck> doesn't magically overcome port-forwarding, like e1 needed, but used in combination with hamachi you have a winner
[12:08] <fowlduck> e1: i use a mac, so i dunno
[12:08] <flaccid> !hamachi
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hamachi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <flaccid> dang
[12:08] <e1> fowlduck cool =)
[12:08] <ForgeAus> fowl you know anywhere theres rdc screenshots?
[12:09] <flaccid> why do you need screen0rs?
[12:09] <ForgeAus> I've only used it between two Windows machines with Win2k
[12:09] <ForgeAus> (advanced server)
[12:09] <e1> !rdp
[12:09] <flaccid> don't worry . it works
[12:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:09] <flaccid> heheh
[12:09] <ForgeAus> flaccid I don't NEED them I'm just interested
[12:10] <flaccid> oh in that case. its pretty basic. at least with krdc you can reduce resolution with rfb/rfb equiv
[12:10] <e1> what's rdp
[12:10] <ForgeAus> remote desktop protocol?
[12:10] <ForgeAus> something like that
[12:10] <e1> ah ic
[12:10] <flaccid> thats right
[12:11] <flaccid> thats what windows remote desktop connection uses
[12:11] <paolo> ciao giovanni
[12:11] <paolo> :)
[12:12] <fowlduck> uhh, just use it and you'll see what it looks like.  Or find krdc's website through google
[12:12] <flaccid> its just a dialog then a confirmation dialog pretty much
[12:12] <giovanni> 1
[12:17] <atomusk> hello
[12:18] <flaccid> hallo
[12:19] <atomusk> :)
[12:19] <MilhousePunkRock> flaccid: Thanks, that worked...
[12:19] <flaccid> what worked sorry
[12:20] <atomusk> i had a question/problem, i was wondering why my sound is low
[12:20] <MilhousePunkRock> flaccid: pppoeconf
[12:20] <MilhousePunkRock> !multimedia
[12:20] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[12:20] <flaccid> ok cool
[12:21] <MilhousePunkRock> !mp3
[12:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:22] <atomusk> i have the master volume all the way up and its still low
[12:24] <MilhousePunkRock> how long would it take to mount the fat32 windows partition?
[12:24] <stefan_> h
[12:25] <Keepers> welche busid muss ich in xorg.conf eintragen wenn meine grafikkarte laut lspci auf 0000:01:00.0 liegt?
[12:25] <MilhousePunkRock> !de
[12:25] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:25] <flaccid> MilhousePunkRock: 1ms
[12:26] <Keepers> which busid do i have to add in xorg.conf if my graphics card lies von 0000:01:00.0
[12:26] <ForgeAus> wow thats a long time!
[12:26] <ForgeAus> hehe
[12:26] <Keepers> its an pcie card, xorg.conf says PCI:1:0:0 is that right?
[12:26] <ForgeAus> does zipslack work under XP?
[12:26] <ForgeAus> (loadlin vers of slackware)
[12:27] <ForgeAus> that'd be interesting to toy with
[12:27] <HymnToLife> Keepers, if you have a display then I would guess it is right :)
[12:27] <ForgeAus> I highly doubt you could run it from within XP maybe I'd have to put it on my 98 drive and add loadlin to an autoexec.bat menu or something?
[12:28] <Keepers> HymnToLife: yes i have - but anywaay i cant configure my screen resolution to 1280x1024
[12:28] <ForgeAus> three choices then Win98 Norton Commander ZipSlack
[12:28] <Keepers> at least i added the resolution in the config
[12:28] <flaccid> ForgeAus: delete all your norton products
[12:28] <ForgeAus> it'd be fun to run it under windows
[12:28] <ForgeAus> flaccid, this IS OLD norton in DOS before anti-virus, etc...
[12:29] <HymnToLife> !resolution | Keepers
[12:29] <ubotu> Keepers: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:29] <flaccid> oh that will probably run in windows np
[12:29] <ForgeAus> (its a twin-pane filemanager like midnight commander, in fact what midnght commander was based off of)
[12:29] <ForgeAus> flaccid, nc will but zipslack? not likely
[12:29] <flaccid> nc ?
[12:29] <Keepers> ubotu - i know what X is for ;) just switching from suse to kubuntu after 4 years, suse != kubuntu ;)
[12:29] <ForgeAus> plus its better not to run nc under windows
[12:29] <Keepers> aha bot -.-
[12:30] <HymnToLife> !ubotu
[12:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:30] <HymnToLife> :)
[12:30] <Keepers> hehe
[12:30] <flaccid> yeah i've seen nc run under windows
[12:30] <ForgeAus> (it can access lower level files than win98 can)
[12:30] <HymnToLife> see the last link Ubotu gave you
[12:30] <flaccid> its just a dos program. windows is just a dos program..
[12:30] <ForgeAus> me too but its better NOT to
[12:30] <flaccid> ForgeAus: what is a lower level file?
[12:30] <ForgeAus> lol yeah win98 is basically just a dos program dunno so much about XP...
[12:30] <flaccid> xp is still a dos program essentially
[12:30] <ForgeAus> grrr lower level access to the file system than windows has
[12:30] <ForgeAus> really?
[12:31] <ForgeAus> just that the Dos is hidden from the user?
[12:31] <flaccid> no
[12:31] <ForgeAus> cmd isn't dos
[12:31] <flaccid> there is now such thing as 'lower level access to the file system'
[12:31] <flaccid> cmd is not dos
[12:31] <flaccid> no
[12:31] <ForgeAus> I'm confused
[12:31] <ForgeAus> wheres the dos behind XP?
[12:31] <ForgeAus> I don't see it
[12:32] <flaccid> what do you think windows is
[12:32] <flaccid> its a dos program
[12:32] <flaccid> you don't get actual dos prompt, you get command prompt
[12:32] <ForgeAus> I know win98 is a dos program essentially
[12:32] <ForgeAus> but XP?...
[12:32] <flaccid> xp is nt
[12:32] <ForgeAus> you can't run win.exe or win.com from within dos to boot into XP
[12:32] <flaccid> its not dos
[12:32] <flaccid> but it can run dos programs in the 16bit sublayer
[12:32] <ForgeAus> wait before you just said XP was a dos program basically
[12:33] <flaccid> yes basically
 xp is still a dos program essentially
[12:33] <ForgeAus> I don't understand
[12:33] <flaccid> you can't expect m$ to actually overhaul anything can you?
[12:33] <flaccid> its a matter of resources
[12:33] <ForgeAus> lol no I don't
[12:33] <flaccid> m$ don't make sense
[12:33] <flaccid> this all destroys the OSI model
[12:33] <ForgeAus> and I agree XP is basically the next step on from their old NT workstation
[12:33] <ForgeAus> it kinda merged 98 with the win 2000 pro
[12:34] <flaccid> nt4 = nt4, win2k = nt 5.0, win xp = nt 5.1...
[12:34] <ForgeAus> and prettied up the UI some
[12:34] <flaccid> not really at all
[12:34] <ForgeAus> flaccid sure but none of this explains where the dos is behind XP
[12:34] <ForgeAus> if anything it says the opposite
[12:34] <flaccid> think of NT as 32 support, but getting rid of old dos support
[12:34] <ForgeAus> that theres NT behind it rather than DOS
[12:34] <cloakable> flaccid: Actually, XP doesn't run on DOS. It was the first home OS M$ had released that didn't.
[12:34] <flaccid> dos is not a true operating system
[12:35] <ForgeAus> that I can agree with
[12:35] <flaccid> cloakable: i didn't say that xp ran dos at all!!!
[12:35] <ForgeAus> its deficient for one
[12:35] <cloakable> flaccid: Then what is it? :P
[12:35] <ForgeAus> does that mean CPM isn't either?
[12:35] <canllaith> Does anyone know where the option to disable showing of windows on the taskbar on all desktops went in kubuntu edgy ?
[12:35] <flaccid> hehe ask m$.......................... its a piece of shit
[12:36] <eilker>  hi, which log file shows my last shut-down time ? i cant find it...
[12:36] <ForgeAus> dos was stolen, xp was stolen vista will prolly be the first OS MS have made that wasn't stolen!
[12:36] <flaccid> negative
[12:36] <makuseru> are there any programs for capturing video of the desktop?
[12:36] <flaccid> its all stolen from the start like you said
[12:36] <flaccid> vista = xp
[12:36] <ForgeAus> well its still prolly built on XP as an evolution...
[12:36] <eilker> !vlc
[12:36] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[12:36] <flaccid> there is no such thing as an evolution with m$
[12:36] <ForgeAus> but the Vista extras look reasonably untheived
[12:37] <ForgeAus> or at least I don't recognise them
[12:37] <makuseru> Vista stole half its visuals form
[12:37] <makuseru> OSX
[12:37] <makuseru> from*
[12:37] <flaccid> thats graphics, big deal
[12:37] <flaccid> looks != system
[12:37] <ForgeAus> cloakable, I think NT would have been an OS before XP that MS made...
[12:38] <makuseru> all i know is that if it takes a company 30 people and 5 years to make a logout screen, they suck
[12:38] <ForgeAus> they still havn't got their file system in order
[12:38] <flaccid> ForgeAus: XP is NT!!!!!
[12:38] <ForgeAus> they're planning to SQLize it
[12:38] <cloakable> ForgeAus: Yeah, but NT was aimed at businesses.
[12:38] <ForgeAus> flaccid yeah XP is an upgrade of what NT was...
[12:38] <fildo> still shithouse
[12:38] <flaccid> ForgeAus: its not an upgrade at all, its the same 'kernel' if you can call it that
[12:39] <flaccid> and its the same for vista
[12:39] <makuseru> same crap diffrent wrapper
[12:39] <ForgeAus> anyhow I dont evne like the default Vista look...
[12:39] <flaccid> exaclty
[12:39] <makuseru> exactly to what?
[12:39] <flaccid> ForgeAus: notice how you care about looks first :)
[12:39] <ForgeAus> vista will be worse... tighter integration with DRM... :(
[12:39] <flaccid> exactly... a wrapper
[12:39] <makuseru> oh, ya
[12:39] <makuseru> DRM = satan
[12:40] <ForgeAus> flaccid, I never pretended I didn't care about looks
[12:40] <fildo> it has to give u a woody for u to use it
[12:40] <flaccid> hehe but its what you mentioned first :)
[12:40] <ForgeAus> theres alot more to vista than the UI tho
[12:40] <ForgeAus> actually no I mentioned the file system first
[12:40] <flaccid> hmmm like what
[12:40] <ForgeAus> that they're planning to SQLize it but it didn't make the cut for vista
[12:40] <makuseru> honestly i have heard not ONE good thing about Vista
[12:40] <D_Cent> hi
[12:40] <ForgeAus> what WinFS (confusing with WinFX)
[12:40] <flaccid> SQLize what ???????????????
[12:41] <ForgeAus> yeah SQL select-like database searches for files
[12:41] <ForgeAus> although thats mostly all behind the scenes prolly
[12:41] <flaccid> ForgeAus: thats bad, not good
[12:41] <ForgeAus> user will just get an edit box most likely
[12:41] <flaccid> and winfs, what a load of shiz
[12:41] <D_Cent> i have kubuntu 6.10 edgy and 2 soundcards. Where can I select the soundcard?
[12:41] <flaccid> ForgeAus: like i said if thats true, its very bad
[12:41] <ForgeAus> to type in the thing they looking for... but behind that will be some kinda sql-ish engine
[12:42] <flaccid> thats b$
[12:42] <ForgeAus> well its kindab etter than searching through fats and whatever NTFS has
[12:42] <makuseru> teh search thing is a OSX knock off
[12:42] <flaccid> ForgeAus: do you know what an index is?
[12:42] <ForgeAus> plucking it from a database is likely quicker
[12:42] <ForgeAus> an index, um not entirely sure in this context
[12:42] <ForgeAus> I know in general what an index in a book is
[12:42] <flaccid> well windows already has it
[12:43] <fildo> haas wat
[12:43] <ubuntu> hii pppl
[12:43] <flaccid> "Windows indexing service"
[12:43] <ForgeAus> oh yeah indexing service
[12:43] <fowlduck> i never use spotlight
[12:43] <ForgeAus> yeah I knew about that
[12:43] <fowlduck> no thanks
[12:43] <ForgeAus> also active directory :(
[12:43] <flaccid> well are you sure they are migrating that to sql, ForgeAus?
[12:43] <ForgeAus> no
[12:43] <ubuntu> hello
[12:43] <flaccid> active directory has nothing to do with WIM :)
[12:43] <ForgeAus> I don't know if the indexing service will be related to WinFS or not
[12:43] <flaccid> then why say it all :)
[12:44] <ForgeAus> i think this is more a metadata database or something?...
[12:44] <fowlduck> winfs is still being made?  I thought they ditched that
[12:44] <ForgeAus> fowl, did they?... it didn't make the cut for Vista I know that much
[12:44] <ForgeAus> but I'm not sure if they're still developing it or not
[12:44] <flaccid> ForgeAus: maybe. still not good from a theory pov :)
[12:44] <ForgeAus> it has been in the works since like win 95 or something
[12:44] <flaccid> it got the cut
[12:45] <flaccid> who knows when its coming
[12:45] <flaccid> it was due 10 years ago
[12:45] <ForgeAus> I'm assuming they're still workingo n it
[12:45] <flaccid> ForgeAus: and do you know what you might get from a new FS ?
[12:45] <ForgeAus> I still think they should have a Media center upgrade for XP pro (standard vers not MCE)
[12:45] <ForgeAus> a new FS?... no idea
[12:46] <flaccid> exactly
[12:46] <flaccid> nothing
[12:46] <flaccid> at best you won't have to defrag. but thats at best
[12:46] <ForgeAus> but its bad enough with the range of FS's there already is
[12:46] <flaccid> not really
[12:46] <flaccid> windows only supports m$ FSs
[12:46] <ForgeAus> I'm more interested in kernel development
[12:46] <flaccid> so you are already cut down
[12:46] <ForgeAus> and the hopes that Hurd might evolve into something good!
[12:46] <flaccid> ForgeAus: what in particular
[12:48] <ForgeAus> in theory its got all the structural goodies desired in a kernel... pity it hasn't sofar worked so well in practice yet... but hen I don't know a whole lot about it...
[12:49] <ForgeAus> any other promising alternatives?
[12:49] <flaccid> alternative to what
[12:49] <mf_debian> nexenta, ubuntu with solaris kernel
[12:50] <ForgeAus> thats itneresting.. I found there are a few debians with alternative kernels for solaris, (bsd?) or hurd kernels...
[12:51] <flaccid> i don't see the point
[12:52] <mf_debian> flaccid: me neither
[12:52] <ForgeAus> flaccid, well assuming they improve the distro in some way its all good.. right?...
[12:53] <ForgeAus> but I guess these things aren't improvments?
[12:53] <flaccid> nope
[12:53] <flaccid> these things create issues
[12:53] <flaccid> i gtg out
[12:54] <ForgeAus> ok kewl
[12:54] <ForgeAus> catch u round
[12:54] <ForgeAus> hav fun
[12:55] <ubuntu> hfghsfb
[12:55] <ubuntu> ;lkdfgjls
[12:55] <ubuntu> dsfgsdfg
[12:55] <ubuntu> dfgkmds
[12:55] <ubuntu> sdfg
[12:55] <ubuntu> sdf
[12:55] <ubuntu> s
[12:55] <ubuntu> f
[12:55] <ubuntu> dfg
[12:55] <ubuntu> df
[12:56] <ubuntu> dfh
[12:56] <ubuntu> f
[12:56] <ubuntu> gh
[12:56] <ubuntu> gfh
[12:56] <ubuntu> fg
[12:56] <ubuntu> hfs
[12:56] <ubuntu> hgfg
[12:56] <ubuntu> g
[12:56] <ubuntu> sfh
[12:56] <ubuntu> gffs
[12:56] <ubuntu> s
[12:56] <ubuntu> fs
[12:56] <ubuntu> hfhptkhrsp
[12:56] <ubuntu> 43563332
[12:56] <ubuntu> 645
[12:56] <ubuntu> 256
[12:56] <ubuntu> 255y5
[12:56] <ubuntu> trh
[12:56] <ubuntu> gf
[12:56] <HymnToLife> !ops
[12:56] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist or LjL
[12:56] <ubuntu> hf
[12:56] <ubuntu> g
[12:56] <ubuntu> fuck
[12:57] <mehdi> hello
[12:57] <ForgeAus> hey
[12:57] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: your script needs a conditional :P
[12:57] <mehdi> do you knwo where i can find chanel irc for shrewall ?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> yep :(
[12:58] <gnomefreak> shorewall as in the firewall?
[12:58] <mehdi> shorewall
[12:58] <mehdi> yes
[12:58] <gnomefreak> mehdi: did you try #shorewall?
[12:58] <mehdi> not yet i try
[12:58] <gnomefreak> as much of a pita it is to set up they better have a channel
[12:58] <mehdi> #shorewall
[12:59] <mehdi> thx very much
[12:59] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:59] <mehdi> it' wokr
[01:02] <VSpike> I find Akregator very slow ... is that just the way it is, or do I have a problem?
[01:03] <VSpike> It seems to take several seconds of 100% CPU load to switch to a new feed.
[01:04] <VSpike> 7 seconds there to switch to Planet Ubuntu feed.
[01:07] <chillian> hallo
[01:07] <MilhousePunkRock> how come sound was playing fine on the live cd but does not anymore now that kubuntu is installed?
[01:11] <chillian> I'm using kubuntu now, because XP crashed ;)
[01:14] <Jucato> does anyone know what package allows Krita to save/export to GIF?
[01:14] <Jucato> I already have libungif4g installed...
[01:15] <makuseru> are there any programs for capturing video of the desktop?
[01:15] <Jucato> makuseru: screenkast, but it's not in the repos, afaik
[01:15] <makuseru> afaik?
[01:15] <Jucato> afaik = as far as I know
[01:15] <makuseru> oh, ok
[01:18] <VSpike> Jucato: Mine does OOTB
[01:18] <VSpike> Jucato: version 1.5.2
[01:19] <ForgeAus> back
[01:19] <MidMark> guys is there a way to configure monitor under kubuntu without gui?
[01:19] <Jucato> VSpike: hm... must be something I don't have installed...
[01:19] <MidMark> a command line configurator I mean
[01:20] <ForgeAus> or a curses one MidMark?
[01:20] <Jucato> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[01:20] <MidMark> Jucato: and it resets the monitor frequencies also?
[01:21] <Jucato> yep
[01:21] <siddiqui> hello all
[01:21] <Jucato> basically, you can also edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[01:21] <siddiqui> I am a new bie to Ubuntu
[01:21] <ubuntu> heloo
[01:22] <siddiqui> anybodu can tell me where to download windows xp virtuall appliance ?
[01:22] <MidMark> Jucato: I've done it, but without success, I've set frequencies for a monitor (nec multisync m500) but xorg seems to doesn't care about my mods
[01:22] <ForgeAus> siddiqui from microsoft of course
[01:22] <ForgeAus> except its probably going to require some converting
[01:23] <Jucato> MidMark: you have restarted X, I presume?
[01:23] <siddiqui> well i went to their website they ask for a genuine windows validation !
[01:23] <MidMark> Jucato: yep
[01:23] <ForgeAus> yeah it does
[01:23] <ForgeAus> its meant to
[01:23] <siddiqui> and i am on kubuntu
[01:23] <siddiqui> how come i can let it check genuine validation ?
[01:23] <ForgeAus> um siddiqui only way to get past that is either have a legal XP copy or use p2p to d/l it?
[01:24] <ForgeAus> siddiqui because microsoft havn't built wga in a way that makes sense :) lol
[01:24] <ForgeAus> doesn't detect your using a non-microsoft OS it assumesy our a windows user
[01:24] <Jucato> MidMark: you've tried the dpkg-reconfigure command?
[01:24] <MidMark> Jucato: I set for example HorizSync to: 51-72 and another monitor tried say I was on 78 so seems that xorg goes out of range that I specifed... do you know why?
[01:24] <ForgeAus> I almost had WGA validating under kubuntu onnce...
[01:24] <ForgeAus> was funny
[01:24] <ForgeAus> there was a time where you could
[01:24] <Jucato> MidMark: no, sorry... I'm quite clueless when it comes to hardware...
[01:24] <siddiqui> i have a bitTorrent client installed by default on kubuntu will that work for a p2p ?
[01:25] <MidMark> Jucato: I will try the command, now I haven't the monitor on my hands
[01:25] <MidMark> thanx
[01:25] <ForgeAus> siddiqui if you like torrents sure I guess... I ahvn't tried it
[01:25] <ForgeAus> persoanlyl I prefer gift or gnutella
[01:25] <siddiqui> nops i dont like torrent i like clean http downloads or ftp transfers...
[01:26] <gan|y|med> hi
[01:26] <chillian> hello
[01:26] <diego> Ola tem lagum brasileiro aqui????
[01:26] <Jucato> !br | diego
[01:26] <ubotu> diego: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:27] <gan|y|med> a friend of mine has a problem. he wants to start the kubuntu live-cd (dapper) on a notebook (the same that i have) and the cd seems not to be recognised during boot-up. the boot order is set up properly, the image is burned with nero. the same procedure works with me (same nb model) any ideas?
[01:28] <gan|y|med> other distros don't work either, so it seems to be image unrelated
[01:29] <siddiqui> ok me leaving have to went out for a work
[01:29] <siddiqui> ForgeAus i will be back for guidence
[01:29] <siddiqui> thanks
[01:32] <malik_> hi guyz...........i have kmldonkey installed and everything works oki after i start the core by doin "sudo mlnet" ...........but when i start or restart the comp n boot my edgy i get an error msg which says MLDonkey core terminated unexpectedly what can i do to make this message go away?
[01:32] <cloakable> I've just installed zinf, and I'm getting an error when I try to run it.
[01:34] <MidMark> gan|y|med: what do you mean for "recognized"?
[01:34] <gan|y|med> malik_: sounds strange, but restart. start kmldonkey, if it still complains try connecting to the core manually. and don't use any other file sharing programmes before starting kml (like ktorrent). that was the issue with my edgy install at least
[01:35] <gan|y|med> MidMark: it just skips booting from cd. the winxp cd works without issues
[01:35] <chillian> I'm a noob in Linux, with wich program can i play music?
[01:35] <gan|y|med> amarok
[01:35] <chillian> thx
[01:35] <gan|y|med> for example
[01:35] <gan|y|med> you are on kubuntu?
[01:35] <chillian> yes
[01:36] <chillian> Can I also play america's army, are is this only for windows
[01:39] <gan|y|med> ok, why don't you read the (k)ubuntu docs and the wikis. irc is the wrong place to ask those quesitons, i am afraid
[01:39] <eilker> hi, lets say i am downloading " wget -c www.foo.com/foo.iso " how can i make it stop and restart again (after some minutes)...?
[01:39] <eilker> !wget
[01:39] <ubotu> wget: retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 226 kB, installed size 1952 kB
[01:40] <malik_> gan|y|med: i just restarted the comp from cold n it gave me the same msg, now if  i start kmldonkey it asks for core so normally  i start core manually by doing sudo mlnet n the prompt stops after telling me the core is started but doesnt go to the dollar sign so i just normally close the terminal and then start kmldonkey n then it connects with all the servers i want it to and do whatever i need...........i just want to get rid of that annoyin
[01:40] <malik_> message.........if u want i can paste it on pastebin ?
[01:41] <gan|y|med> i am not sure if i can help. but you can try
[01:42] <gan|y|med> just my experience. but seems to be different, as for me i couldn't use mlnet at all (core didn't start)
[01:43] <MidMark> gan|y|med: if cd is not booting is burned in a wrong way or the media is broken
[01:44] <gan|y|med> specify wrong way, pls
[01:45] <MidMark> the right way is to download the iso and burn the iso with iso burning function, wrong way can be do manually add all files
[01:45] <malik_> gan|y|med: one reason cud be that core is in /usr/bin  so i have to sudo it plus when few wk ago i installed it n later un installed it i set the option as starting mlnet as deamon but i didnt allow it to restart automatically i think thats where the problem is
[01:46] <gan|y|med> of course, it is not manually burned
[01:46] <MidMark> tried other media?
[01:46] <malik_> but i cant find the option to make it start automatically as deamon any more
[01:46] <eilker> !kppp
[01:46] <ubotu> kppp: modem dialer and ppp frontend for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 667 kB, installed size 3688 kB
[01:46] <MidMark> another thing can be a bios bug, try to update it
[01:46] <gan|y|med> so why don't you do dpkg-reconfigure mlnet (or whatever the package is called) and switch back from daemon
[01:47] <gan|y|med> or to
[01:47] <gan|y|med> dpkg-reconfigure package
[01:51] <gan|y|med> ok, thx a lot for your help. i'm going to try it. no cd image can prevent me from gaining another community member :)
[01:51] <gan|y|med> sounds a bit scary, doesn't it?
[01:52] <gan|y|med> cu
[01:59] <chillian> does the extension .exe also exsists in Linux?
[01:59] <fowlduck> sure, but it's meaningless
[02:00] <fowlduck> in linux a file is executable if it has the executable bit set
[02:00] <chillian> thx, how can I see that?
[02:01] <fowlduck> ls -l
[02:02] <chillian> thx fowlduck
[02:02] <fowlduck> np
[02:03] <sivaji_2009> "The process for the system protocol died unexpectedly" how to handle this
[02:03] <sivaji_2009> i cannt open any folder
[02:07] <sivaji_2009> #ubuntu
[02:08] <cloakable> Can anyone help me with Zinf?
[02:10] <Zoomby> Anyone here who is using a KVM switch connected to 2 computers ?
[02:13] <cloakable> Not I
[02:17] <fowlduck> i did
[02:17] <fowlduck> with kubuntu and ubuntu and windows
[02:17] <gaki333> hi everybody
[02:22] <Zoomby> fowlduck: you did ? had any problems ? I have one problem, not a major one, but it's annoying...
[02:23] <fowlduck> no problems
[02:24] <fowlduck> except windows and Xorg display their screens slightly off, but the monitor i used had an auto-adjust button so it took less than a couple seconds to fix
[02:25] <Zoomby> I have one Kubuntu and one XP connected to the switch. Often when I switch over to the XP machine, the Kubuntu machine starts to log the following message (30 times per sec...):
[02:25] <Zoomby> kernel: [17412588.980000]  keyboard.c: can't emulate rawmode for keycode 240
[02:25] <Zoomby> the syslog and kern.log gets pretty big after a while :-)
[02:26] <KaIxOk> qualcuno parla italiano ?
[02:26] <Jucato> !it | KaIxOk
[02:26] <ubotu> KaIxOk: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:36] <calvarez> hello! I have a fresh install of Kubuntu Edgy, and I want to put a share up so other Windows machines can connect.
[02:36] <calvarez> how do I go about it?
[02:37] <MidMark> share what? hdd?
[02:37] <gaki333> Use samba
[02:39] <calvarez> I was looking about samba, but for some reason the window machine will not connect
[02:39] <calvarez> it sees the computer on the network, but it does not see the share
[02:41] <Zoomby> are you sure that the sambaserver is in the same workgroup as the windows machine ?
[02:41] <Zoomby> do your defined share has the the right access privileges ?
[02:41] <calvarez> they should be, the Windows machine can browse the group and find the Kubuntu box
[02:41] <calvarez> I think it is
[02:41] <Zoomby> ok, hmm
[02:41] <calvarez> I'm not sure how to set up things in samba
[02:42] <calvarez> I am using the Sharing module in System Settings in KDE
[02:42] <Zoomby> there should be a samba-HOWTO somewhere, Google for it
[02:42] <calvarez> I am not editing /etc/samba/smb.conf by hand
[02:42] <Zoomby> ok, well, maybe you should, after reading the HOWTO :-) GReat way to learn the stuff
[02:42] <calvarez> Zoomby, I found this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Samba_Server
[02:43] <calvarez> with no luck
[02:43] <calvarez> well, the main problem is that I don't quite understand it
[02:44] <calvarez> the steps to do things are there, but I am not sure which steps are the ones necessary to do what I want
[02:44] <hyper_ch> !swat
[02:44] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:44] <hyper_ch> !swat | calvarez
[02:44] <ubotu> calvarez: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:45] <Zoomby> yes, swat can be helpful to you, check it out
[02:45] <VSpike> I would recommend swat too.
[02:46] <hyper_ch> *smile*
[02:47] <calvarez> and in one of those links it says the KDE samba tool is broken :) no wonder
[02:47] <calvarez> I'll take a look at swat
[02:47] <calvarez> thanks
[02:47] <Zoomby> you will also need a user account on the samba server for every user connecting to it
[02:47] <Zoomby> then you map them in smbusers and smbpasswd
[02:48] <VSpike> You can use password level access too, for simple sharing
[02:50] <VSpike> Oh BTW to get SWAT working you have enable the root account
[02:50] <calvarez> Zoomby, I need a linux user account for every user that wants to connect, is that what you meant?
[02:50] <hyper_ch> VSpike: you're positive about that?
[02:51] <hyper_ch> calvarez: no, you can create own sambausers
[02:51] <Zoomby> yes, IF you enable security=user in smb.conf
[02:51] <VSpike> hyper_ch: I wouldn't swear that there may not be other ways :) but I googled and that was the solution for me
[02:51] <hyper_ch> VSpike: I'll check my knowledge base :)
[02:51] <blackleclare> hello somebody speak spanish?
[02:52] <hyper_ch> !es | blackleclare
[02:52] <ubotu> blackleclare: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:52] <calvarez> Zoomby, hyper_ch, I am the root user in the linux box and I am the only user of the windows box that will be connecting to the linux box through samba
[02:52] <blackleclare> hola hyper
[02:52] <calvarez> I was thinking that simply using the user account should suffice
[02:52] <Zoomby> well, make an account on the linuxbox with the same name as the windows user
[02:52] <hyper_ch> I don't think a user account is even needed
[02:53] <hyper_ch> but it's been ages since I setup my samba server
[02:53] <VSpike> it's not. set share level access
[02:53] <blackleclare> ok gracias
[02:53] <Zoomby> then make sure that their passwords are syncronized and map the whole thing in smbusersd and smbpasswd
[02:53] <VSpike> then make the IP of the windows box the only permitted one for extra security
[02:53] <calvarez> VSpike, you meant doing "security = share"?
[02:53] <VSpike> calvarez: yes
[02:53] <MidMark> samba need a user when from windows you have to access to linux
[02:53] <hyper_ch> VSpike: you don't need root access for swat
[02:53] <Zoomby> thats the easiest way I think. then you will not be forced to enter password when you mount from windows
[02:54] <hyper_ch> VSpike: I just checked my konwledge base but that's in gemran only
[02:54] <VSpike> you also don't have to create a new account. You can alias account names
[02:54] <hyper_ch> Zoomby: if you have win xp pro - then you can save username/pwd for the network drive login
[02:54] <VSpike> hyper_ch: So what's the solution? When I used my user/pass I get the view only mode
[02:54] <hyper_ch> VSpike: you're right
[02:54] <VSpike> hyper_ch: besides, enabling the root account in not really hard :)
[02:54] <hyper_ch> VSpike: you have to login as root :)
[02:55] <calvarez> VSpike, hyper_ch, Zoomby, I am not too concerned with security, I only have these two boxes (windows and kubuntu) behind a router that is protected
[02:55] <hyper_ch> VSpike: well, setting up works without root... but not logging in :)
[02:55] <calvarez> I just want the simplest configuration possible
[02:55] <hyper_ch> simplest way:
[02:55] <calvarez> since I am not very familiar with samba
[02:55] <hyper_ch> that's this:
[02:55] <hyper_ch> sudo apt-get install samba
[02:55] <calvarez> check
[02:56] <calvarez> got samba and smbfs installed
[02:56] <hyper_ch> calvarez: then sudo nano apt-get /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:56] <hyper_ch> calvarez: wait :)
[02:56] <calvarez> sudo kedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:56] <hyper_ch> first:  sudo cp /etc/samba/smb.con /etc/samba/smb.conf.old
[02:56] <VSpike> heh
[02:56] <calvarez> yea, I made a backup first
[02:56] <hyper_ch> calvarez: first make a copy of the original file
[02:56] <calvarez> I did
[02:56] <hyper_ch> then edit
[02:56] <hyper_ch> calvarez: then paste this:  http://www.phpfi.com/189763
[02:57] <hyper_ch> set workgroup to your workgroup
[02:57] <hyper_ch> host deny is that those can't access the samba share (normally routers)
[02:57] <hyper_ch> and then you have entries for a read-only and rw folder
[02:57] <hyper_ch> make changes as you need them
[02:58] <hyper_ch> then save the config
[02:58] <hyper_ch> and reload samba :)
[02:58] <hyper_ch> calvarez: then add a new user:   sudo add NEW_USER
[02:58] <Zoomby> correction: 10.x.x.x are ip-adress range reserved for home/closed networks
[02:58] <hyper_ch> calvarez: then add a new user:   sudo useradd NEW_USER
[02:59] <hyper_ch> Zoomby: 10.0.0.1 is the router that connects to my cable modem... that's the gateway to the internet in my network setup
[02:59] <hyper_ch> Zoomby: so I don't wanna anyone outside my network accessing samba
[02:59] <Zoomby> the 10.0.0.1 is in your ISP domain, not internet
[03:00] <Zoomby> doesnt matter
[03:00] <calvarez> hmm, so 10.0.0.1 is the router?
[03:00] <hyper_ch> Zoomby: 10.0.0.1 is my router - my gateway to the itnernet...
[03:00] <calvarez> that's supposed to be the gateway as well?
[03:00] <calvarez> in my case that is 192.168.1.1
[03:00] <hyper_ch> calvarez: well, I don't want anyont outside my network have access to samba
[03:01] <Zoomby> I usually bind samba to the interface it should listen too, that closes off anything else
[03:01] <Zoomby> interfaces = 192.168.0.3/255.255.255.0
[03:01] <Zoomby> in my case
[03:02] <hyper_ch> Zoomby: each one his own :)
[03:02] <Zoomby> :-) true. I do this too:  bind interfaces only = true
[03:02] <hyper_ch> calvarez: anyway, after that reload samba and add a new user:    sudo useradd NEW_USER
[03:03] <calvarez> so, I can't use the same user account I have>
[03:03] <hyper_ch> calvarez: sure you can
[03:03] <VSpike> if you just have one machine, you could put its IP in hosts allow
[03:03] <calvarez> like, if my linux user account was calvarez, I can simply put calvarez in "force user"
[03:03] <calvarez> ?
[03:03] <Zoomby> if that is what the windows user is gonna map to, yes
[03:03] <hyper_ch> calvarez: yes, that force user and force group will be used for the permissions of files there
[03:03] <calvarez> cool
[03:04] <VSpike> i've not used force user before.. does that mean you just don't get any authentication request?
[03:04] <Zoomby> whats the username of the windows user on the windows machine ?
[03:04] <calvarez> it's the same one than the linux one
[03:04] <Zoomby> good
[03:05] <calvarez> does it matter if the Windows one start with capitol letter?
[03:05] <calvarez> the linux one doesn't
[03:05] <hyper_ch> the final step is now creating a samba user:  sudo smbpasswd -a calvarez
[03:05] <Zoomby> then you can map calvarez -> calvarez and set a password via smbpasswd
[03:05] <Zoomby> make life easy and set the same :-)
[03:05] <Zoomby> then you can mount without give a password every time
[03:06] <hyper_ch> Zoomby: or if you have winxp pro you give password once
[03:06] <hyper_ch> :)
[03:07] <Zoomby> hyper: are you running the samba server in a domain ?
[03:07] <calvarez> aha! it works!
[03:07] <Cklausz>  Hello there,
[03:07] <Cklausz> In Ubuntu 6.10 the xdg-utils package by Freedesktop Foundation's Portland Project is not installed by default. Will this change in further releases of Ubuntu?
[03:07] <hyper_ch> Zoomby: if I knew what you mean by that I could answer :)
[03:07] <calvarez> thanks guys :)
[03:07] <calvarez> much obliged
[03:07] <Zoomby> np calvarez. good luck
[03:07] <hyper_ch> calvarez: just a small tipp: make notes of what you did to achieve something :) next time you can just look when needed
[03:08] <Zoomby> hyper: samba can be set to be part of Windows network domain
[03:08] <hyper_ch> I use egroupware's knowledge management to do that for me
[03:08] <hyper_ch> Zoomby: no, I don't do that
[03:08] <Zoomby> ok
[03:08] <hyper_ch> Zoomby: don't know too much about windows networking and stuff :)
[03:09] <Zoomby> I wondered because you you said something about having XP Pro, it can share password with the samba server on a network level
[03:09] <VSpike> No, it's just that XP Pro will remember a user/password of a network resource for you, but XP home will not
[03:09] <hyper_ch> Zoomby: no, in winxp pro you can save username and password upon first connection and then when you assign it as network drive it won't ask next time naymore
[03:09] <Zoomby> for that I think you need to be part of a Windows domain, just having a workgroup wont suffice
[03:09] <VSpike> even though Windows 98 did.
[03:09] <calvarez> XP home is lame
[03:09] <VSpike> they just broke it deliberately in XP home
[03:09] <VSpike> yeah, it sucks
[03:10] <Zoomby> well, thats why we run Linux right ? .-)
[03:10] <prophitinc> hey how do i get a list of all the channels on here
[03:10] <hyper_ch> I'm looking forward for all those cool new features in Vista *lol*
[03:10] <calvarez> hehe
[03:10] <VSpike> you can get around it by putting a script in your startup folder.  I've made XP Home machines play on a domain before
[03:10] <Zoomby> hehe
[03:10] <hyper_ch> like I'm going to buy a new computer just because of a new OS
[03:10] <hyper_ch> what's the term... bloatware?
[03:10] <calvarez> Even though I like some Microsoft products, I am definetely NOT excited about Vista
[03:11] <VSpike> something like "net use \\server\share /user:domain\myname xyzpassword /persistent:no
[03:11] <Zoomby> gottago. nice chatting with you guys
[03:11] <hyper_ch> I think MS Excel is quite nice....
[03:11] <hyper_ch> but that's about it
[03:11] <calvarez> I like VS 2005
[03:11] <bobleny> I've liked a couple MS games but thats it! I don't like MS
[03:11] <calvarez> well, I like VS.NET 2003 much better
[03:11] <VSpike> Yeah VS 2005 is good
[03:11] <calvarez> VS 2005 is buggy
[03:11] <hyper_ch> does it run in wine? ^^
[03:12] <calvarez> it screws up the manifest files
[03:12] <VSpike> I've only used the express versions
[03:12] <bobleny> Hey, I have a question....
[03:12] <hyper_ch> bobleny: just ask :)
[03:12] <bobleny> I'm working on it
[03:12] <bobleny> I forgot the word though....
[03:12] <Cklausz> Don't you have any idea?
[03:12] <hyper_ch> oh, that's going to be a big question :)
[03:13] <hyper_ch> in 2 months I'll start working :(
[03:13] <bobleny> When you install programs om linux and you have to do it your self, it's called something
[03:13] <VSpike> build?
[03:13] <VSpike> make?
[03:13] <VSpike> compile?
[03:14] <bobleny> Hmmm...
[03:14] <calvarez> bobleny, a couple of things:
[03:14] <calvarez> 1)yes, much of the software for linux is given as source code, that needs to be compiled and built
[03:14] <calvarez> 2)if you use ubuntu/kubunt, you don't have to
[03:15] <VSpike> 2*) mostly
[03:15] <hyper_ch> 2**) don't forget xubuntu
[03:15] <calvarez> simply use a program called apt-get, which will automatically connect to several servers, see what software is up for download there, download it and install it for you
[03:15] <calvarez> even easier than in Windows
[03:16] <Deadcake> hello, i need help, i'm just trying to install on my pc this fantastic distribution..
[03:16] <hyper_ch> something must have happened... a couple of police cars just went by... normally it's only the firefighters
[03:16] <VSpike> bobleny: or use synaptic, or aptitude
[03:16] <Cklausz> I'll try it again:
[03:16] <Cklausz> Hello there,
[03:16] <Cklausz> In Ubuntu 6.10 the xdg-utils package by Freedesktop Foundation's Portland Project is not installed by default. Will this change in further releases of Ubuntu?
[03:16] <hyper_ch> Deadcake: just go ahead :)
[03:16] <hyper_ch> Cklausz: gonna ask this in every #?
[03:16] <Cklausz> yes
[03:16] <calvarez> apt-get is a comman line program, if you are not comfortable with it, you can install a program called synaptic or one called adept-installer which have buttons and will show you a list of sofwtare
[03:16] <hyper_ch> hiho abattoir
[03:16] <bobleny> Yes, but many of the prgrams I want arent in that apt program thingy...
[03:17] <hyper_ch> Cklausz: no straight answer yet on that issue? and what is it actually?
[03:17] <VSpike> bobleny: for instance?
[03:17] <hyper_ch> bobleny: what do you need?
[03:17] <Deadcake> but when i boot up my computer with the kubuntu cd i enter on "start or install kubuntu" it starts the splash screen and nothing happens...sorry for my english..
[03:17] <calvarez> lol, connection dropped
[03:17] <calvarez> bobleny, do you have synaptic installed?
[03:17] <bobleny> Like, LAMP, or PCB are the 2 I'm thinking of right now
[03:18] <calvarez> bobleny, lamp is available
[03:18] <bobleny> And yes i do have synaptic installed
[03:18] <calvarez> what is pcb?
[03:18] <hyper_ch> Deadcake: you try with the life-CD or alternate cd?
[03:18] <Deadcake> mh no
[03:18] <bobleny> It is a programe for designeing PCBs...
[03:18] <VSpike> Deadcake: Have you tried the failsafe option? I can't remember the exact name of it
[03:18] <calvarez> bobleny, I assure you, you'll have a hard time finding a program that is not available in apt-get/synaptic
[03:18] <calvarez> bobleny, I don't know what PCBs are
[03:19] <calvarez> what does that abbreviation stand for?
[03:19] <hyper_ch> bobleny: lamp is a acronym for linux apache mysql php.... there are a few nice sites that will tell you how to properly setup those... I recommed www.howtoforge.com
[03:19] <MidMark> calvarez: I have a lot of programs that aren't in synaptic
[03:19] <bobleny> Ok
[03:19] <calvarez> bobleny, I set up my lamp server using synaptic only
[03:19] <hyper_ch> MidMark: do you have universe / multiverse as repos enabled?
[03:19] <MidMark> calvarez: mandvd, bpmdj are the first two
[03:19] <calvarez> just the other day, and I also installed mod_python together with it
[03:19] <lenscape> ! pydcop
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pydcop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <MidMark> hyper_ch: for sure
[03:20] <Deadcake> i know because it happens even with other distribution, and always i write on the boot line "acpi=off vga=normal" because my motherboard has problems with acpi devices, but when i do this i see on screen "kernel panic: not syncing: attempted to kill init!"
[03:20] <Cklausz> hyper_ch: I just got this answer: "Cklausz: I doubt it, not until it is tested in Debian at least"
[03:20] <Cklausz> Is there any "official" place where I can request this?
[03:20] <bobleny> I have downloaded PCB alredy I just need to compile it. Thats what my question was... Does compiling programs diffrer from one linux distro to the next?
[03:21] <lenscape> anyone know which package pydcop is in?
[03:21] <hyper_ch> Deadcake: what cd are you trying to boot from? Live or alternate?
[03:21] <Deadcake> mh i don't exactly know
[03:21] <Deadcake> i just downloaded
[03:21] <Deadcake> from the kubuntu site
[03:21] <hyper_ch> bobleny:  pcb - printed circuit board (pcb) design program
[03:21] <bobleny> Yeah
[03:21] <hyper_ch> bobleny: it is available in some sources... question is only which
[03:22] <Deadcake> i think it's live...that cd that boots system and then you can install it from an icon..
[03:22] <[Amigo] > I have dapper, nvidia 7600GS, driver 9631, beryl & emerald-themes. How to enable to work beryl?
[03:22] <hyper_ch> Deadcake: if you sure you want to install then it's better NOT to use the live-cd... much better to use the alternate
[03:23] <Deadcake> :( sorry....but now i have lost 1 cd :(
[03:23] <Deadcake> there's not a way to make that work?
[03:23] <[Amigo] > If I run beryl, kdm now restarting :(
[03:23] <hyper_ch> bobleny: do you know how to add univers and multivers as repositories?
[03:24] <hyper_ch> Deadcake: you can download the alternate cd....
[03:24] <Deadcake> ok....i'll do that :(
[03:24] <Deadcake> but how can i boot the failsafe mode?
[03:24] <hyper_ch> Deadcake: why the sad smiley?
[03:24] <Deadcake> because i lost 1 empty cd
[03:25] <bobleny> Yeah, I added all of them...
[03:25] <hyper_ch> Deadcake: oh.... hmmm, you have no 700mb RW cds?
[03:25] <Deadcake> no :(
[03:25] <Deadcake> i haven't
[03:25] <hyper_ch> how can I find out in what repo a package is?
[03:25] <hyper_ch> Deadcake: oh :(
[03:25] <hyper_ch> Deadcake: I'd adivce you to get 2-3 700 MB RW cds :)
[03:26] <Deadcake> i'll do that as soon as possible ..
[03:26] <hyper_ch> Deadcake: so you can download iso anytime and test them... without requiring burning cds all the time :)
[03:26] <hyper_ch> Deadcake: took me also some time until I did that
[03:26] <Deadcake> :)
[03:27] <hyper_ch> bobleny: can you pastebin the content of your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[03:27] <bobleny> can you give me a link to the pastebin thing?
[03:27] <hyper_ch> www.phpfi.com
[03:28] <hyper_ch> bobleny: you're using Dapper (6.06)?
[03:28] <bobleny> no edgy eft
[03:28] <bobleny> 1.10
[03:28] <calvarez> 6.10
[03:28] <hyper_ch> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=pcb&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[03:29] <hyper_ch> pcb is in the universe repository... so either you have not (yet) enabled that or not updated after enabling :)
[03:31] <Jucato> !pastebin | bobleny
[03:31] <ubotu> bobleny: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:32] <Deadcake> hyper_ch there's no alternative way? such as usb drive?or network? (i'm writing from another pc in a network)
[03:33] <hyper_ch> Deadcake: I haven't tried any other way... the most simple thing would really be get the alternate install cd if the live-cd has problems
[03:34] <hyper_ch> Deadcake: I never had any problems with either... but quite a few people have with the live cd
[03:34] <hyper_ch> Deadcake: the alternate cd will directly install it... not like the live-cd first boot up and show you what it is and then give you an option for install
[03:35] <Deadcake> and it will not have problem with acpi or kernel panic ecc ecc?
[03:35] <bobleny> Here the link I think... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/246/plain/
[03:35] <hyper_ch> Deadcake: I don't know.... I never had problems
[03:36] <hyper_ch> bobleny: well, you have the universe enabled... no please enter into the console:   sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search pcb
[03:36] <hyper_ch> or pbc
[03:36] <hyper_ch> or whatever the correct name was :)
[03:38] <bobleny> Error!!!
[03:38] <bobleny> Wah!
[03:38] <bobleny> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:38] <hyper_ch> what error?
[03:38] <hyper_ch> ok, execute:  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:38] <bobleny> I got this error earllior too when I tried to run synaptic
[03:39] <bobleny> What that do?
[03:39] <hyper_ch> bobleny: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:40] <bobleny> Already did
[03:40] <bobleny> What it do?
[03:40] <hyper_ch> bobleny: again:   sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search pcb
[03:40] <bobleny> again?
[03:41] <bobleny> Ok
[03:41] <bobleny> I did
[03:41] <hyper_ch> again error?
[03:41] <bobleny> no more error
[03:41] <bobleny> thanks
[03:41] <bobleny> GTG
[03:41] <bobleny> bye
[03:41] <hyper_ch> bobleny: wait:   sudo apt-get install pcb
[03:41] <bobleny> I do that later...
[03:42] <bobleny> I GTG
[03:42] <hyper_ch> cya
[03:42] <bobleny> bye
[03:45] <VSpike> If I get crashes from KDE apps like kicker or basket, what should I do.  Just ignore them and carry on? Or try and report the crash somehow?
[03:45] <hyper_ch> VSpike: I would change to xubuntu :)
[03:45] <VSpike> hyper_ch: are you in the wrong channel? ;)
[03:46] <hyper_ch> VSpike: not necessarily... I have tons and tons of KDE appz instaled
[03:46] <hyper_ch> even /sysinfo  in Konversation says that I run kde...
[03:47] <VSpike> I was just thinking that... to run KDE apps you pretty much have to install all of KDE, no?  Even if you don't actually use KDM and the window manager stuff
[03:47] <Jucato> VSpike: 1) try to see if there's already a bug report about the crash or 2) you can make a backtrace by clicking on the tab in the crash dialog box (requires gdb to be installed), or 3) you just ignore it
[03:47] <VSpike> Jucato: To do that, does it pretty much have to be repeatable?
[03:48] <Jucato> yep
[03:48] <VSpike> Thought so
[03:48] <Jucato> reproducible :)
[03:48] <VSpike> yeah
[03:49] <VSpike> I've not noticed any real pattern to it.  That's a bitch anyway, because of course race conditions and deadlocks are almost impossible to reproduce.
[03:49] <VSpike> Then again, have been on the other side of the fence and been the programmer taking bug reports, unless it's reproducible it's almost impossible to do anything
[03:51] <Jucato> sort of... that's why I hate intermittent errors/crashes... can't reproduce them... no sense in reporting them...
[04:06] <VSpike> wow.  the AMD support website sucks hugely
[04:07] <aljosa> is there a java (ant,tomcat,...) repository for ubuntu?
[04:08] <oem> hi
[04:08] <oem> can i run widows exe files on kubuntu
[04:11] <Bubba_Gump> how do i set programs to run as root through kde menu editor?
[04:12] <Bubba_Gump> !wine | oem
[04:12] <ubotu> oem: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:12] <oem> can i run windows exe file in kubuntu
[04:15] <Jucato> Bubba_Gump: you can either use "kdesu" with the command or check the "Run as a different user" (leave the username blank) in the menu editor
[04:16] <malik_> how do i add amazon search engine into konqi?
[04:20] <malik_> i want to add amazon into the search engine list like other ones there already like google and dictionary n stuff
[04:20] <malik_> how do i go abt it?
[04:24] <sivaji_2009> i cant access my cd drive
[04:24] <sivaji_2009> i dont get icon in desktop when  i put my cd
[04:32] <VSpike> malik_: it's actually quite easy
[04:33] <VSpike> Go to Settings->Configure Konqueror and select "Web Shortcuts".
[04:33] <malik_> oki.....im there but there is no amazon there
[04:33] <VSpike> You need to add a new one of those.  The URI I've used is:
[04:33] <VSpike> http://www.amazon.co.uk/s?field-keywords=\{@}
[04:34] <VSpike> Not sure if that's exactly right but it seems to work
[04:34] <malik_> aaaaaaaah oki thats what i was looking for thanx mate
[04:34] <VSpike> NP
[04:34] <VSpike> Make sure you tick the checkbox next to it to activate it
[04:35] <Jucato> it's quite easy to do if the search engine has a search url like that...
[04:35] <uaxe> hi guys
[04:35] <zhabik> hi
[04:36] <zhabik> wer weisst das
[04:36] <cs_> hi @ all
[04:39] <malik_> seems like a slow day or hr rather i shud say here
[04:39] <Jucato> probably....
[04:39] <VSpike> yeah does a bit
[04:40] <Jucato> yeah, and you'll get -Jucato in a few minutes :P
[04:40] <malik_> are there actually 303 ppl in here or most of em are bots?
[04:40] <Jucato> no
[04:40] <Jucato> just parked or afk
[04:40] <zhabik> who know that, "mhdd" to linux. Bad-blocks repair?
[04:40] <Admiral_Chicago> like I just came back from afk
[04:40] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago! :)
[04:41] <malik_> ah admiral is back
[04:41] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato!!
[04:41] <zhabik> how can i repair bad-blocks in hard-disk?
[04:41] <zhabik> in *nix?
[04:41] <Jucato> fsck?
[04:42] <Admiral_Chicago> that's a good question, I don't know myself
[04:42] <malik_> oki i ll fire one question........every time i start my computer ai get an error msg saying that kmldonkey core terminated unexpectedly...........how do i make it go away
[04:42] <zhabik> this is on win
[04:42] <Admiral_Chicago> i though fsck but I'm not sure
[04:42] <zhabik> mhdd
[04:42] <zhabik> best programm is mhdd
[04:42] <zhabik> but only for win
[04:42] <zhabik> i need to linux
[04:43] <malik_> ?
[04:43] <zhabik> my harddisk has bad-blocks
[04:43] <paolo> Hi. I'm trying to install an nvidia driver trhough a sh script. when I launch the script it says that I must stop X server. I tried to stop it, but with no results: i've tried both /sbin/init 3  and killall X.....
[04:44] <zhabik> ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:44] <Admiral_Chicago> paolo: then log into fail safe terminal
[04:44] <malik_> otherwise everything is working fine coz i normally sudo mlnet to start the core n then start kmldonkey n then take it from there its just that this annoying msg doesnt go away no matter what i do
[04:44] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get install sformat zhabik i think
[04:45] <zhabik> sformat? thnx
[04:45] <Admiral_Chicago> that's the output of an "apt-cache search bad block"
[04:45] <Jucato> paolo: Ctrl+Alt+F1, login, "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop". that will stop the X server
[04:45] <YeLkcoS> wenas
[04:45] <Admiral_Chicago> no thats for SCSI drives
[04:45] <YeLkcoS> alquien me puede decir que tal va la 3.5.5 de KDE?
[04:46] <uaxe> what do you exatcly need, admiralchicago?
[04:46] <zhabik> i have no scsi. ide only
[04:46] <Admiral_Chicago> !es | YeLkcoS
[04:46] <ubotu> YeLkcoS: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:46] <paolo> well, i'm collecting too  much and differents tips
[04:46] <YeLkcoS> ok sorry
[04:46] <paolo> let's try each one
[04:46] <Admiral_Chicago> uaxe: actually its zhabik that is trying to repair a bad block
[04:46] <uaxe> a bad block? what filesystem is?
[04:47] <zhabik> ntfs
[04:47] <uaxe> can't you use win to repair it?
[04:47] <zhabik> i want to format to ext3
[04:47] <zhabik> but fsck write: "bad blocks"
[04:48] <uaxe> ... mmm... i had a similar problem...
[04:48] <uaxe> i solved it with
[04:48] <uaxe> a block check
[04:48] <uaxe> if you do : mkfs.ext3 -h
[04:48] <uaxe> you'll most likely find the right
[04:48] <uaxe> option
[04:48] <uaxe> i don't remember actually
[04:49] <zhabik> under win is a best programm "mhdd" to repair bad-blocks, but i have,nt windows now
[04:49] <uaxe> a bad block can be only repaired by marking it as 'non allocable' space!
[04:49] <uaxe> you can even do this with an ext3 format
[04:50] <zhabik> how can i do it?
[04:50] <VSpike> hard drives used to come with a bad block table in their firmware.  I wonder if they still do that?  I'm think of ST502 drives
[04:50] <uaxe> .. mkfs.ext3 -h... i'm doing it now, wait a moment and I'll tell you the exact option
[04:50] <zhabik> i'm waiting..
[04:51] <VSpike> -c
[04:51] <zhabik> mkfs.ext3 -h -c
[04:51] <zhabik> right?
[04:51] <uaxe> -h is for the small help
[04:51] <zhabik> ok
[04:51] <uaxe> i'm searching on google...
[04:51] <zhabik> thnx
[04:52] <zhabik> i probe this
[04:52] <VSpike> hmm.. man badblocks
[04:52] <uaxe> fsck.ext3 -h
[04:52] <VSpike> that's useful to know
[04:52] <laurentiu> sal
[04:53] <uaxe> fsck.ext3 should help you
[04:53] <VSpike> uaxe: he left :/
[04:54] <uaxe> oooh... sorry... i found it too late
[04:54] <laurentiu> ym have a problem
[04:54] <VSpike> uaxe; not your fault, he was just impatient :)
[04:55] <uaxe> Vspike: tnx ;)
[04:55] <uaxe> i have a little question
[04:55] <morten_> Dows anyone know what might make my computer freeze at the Running/init-top script?
[04:55] <superkirbyartist> I have problems with installing Criawips http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/250/
[04:58] <VSpike> It seems odd that a standard user can insert a flash disk or other similar device, and the system will mount it for them.  They can then read and write it.  But they can't check the fs on it, because they must have root permissions to unmount it.  Is that right?
[04:59] <fdoving> VSpike: no, regular users can unmount too. but they need to use the 'pumount' command.
[05:00] <VSpike> fdoving: hey, that's useful
[05:00] <VSpike> I'm glad I asked that question :)
[05:00] <fdoving> VSpike: of course, they can also use the unmount-dialogs in KDE too. right-click -> safely remove.. or what it's nameed.
[05:00] <Jucato> yep, Safely Remove...
[05:01] <fdoving> hi jucato. :)
[05:01] <VSpike> fdoving: Good point
[05:01] <Jucato> hi fdoving! :)
[05:01] <VSpike> I was thinking that just did a sync, rather that umount, but you're quite right
[05:02] <sivaji_2009> what is the command to shutdown in consol
[05:02] <VSpike> sivaji_2009: shutdown -h now
[05:02] <fdoving> sivaji_2009: or 'halt'
[05:05] <VSpike> wish I could stop running XP in VMWare
[05:05] <VSpike> I hate the way it keeps grabbing the focus and keyboard input
[05:05] <Jucato> ctrl+alt doesn't free the mouse/keyboard?
[05:06] <ber_>    ?
[05:06] <aloyarc> i need to downgrade wine, how ?
[05:06] <jps> Anyone likes to install both ubuntu and kubuntu? Is there a way to customize kmenu so it shows only K*programs?
[05:07] <malik_> which one is better?...........VMware/wine/xen?
[05:07] <fdoving> malik_: depends on your needs.
[05:07] <Jucato> yep
[05:07] <Jucato> when it comes to virtualization, wine is out of the picture
[05:07] <VSpike> Jucato: It's not that..it's just like when I'm using something like Kubuntu, suddenly VMWare will just grab the focus.  I've never quite worked out what the trigger is
[05:08] <Jucato> VSpike: hm... that's weird..
[05:08] <VSpike> Jucato: Yes, very
[05:09] <VSpike> I'd like to get rid of it really.  But I have no solution that will work with my Pocket PC other than XP + Outlook + ActiveSync
[05:10] <malik_> the day i ll figureout how to install my webcam n tv tuner card in kubuntu i ll ditch win xp 4ever
[05:11] <bibek> this is really not the place to ask this but is DSL .deb based?
[05:11] <fdoving> damn small linux?
[05:11] <jps> I have ditched my xp... and I don't regret it
[05:11] <fdoving> i belive so.
[05:12] <lacin> hi,
[05:12] <bibek> oh, i have an old horse, P3 and kubuntu is way too slow with eclipse
[05:13] <bibek> will be trying dsl soon
[05:13] <lacin> I installed Ubuntu and now I want add KDE, Can I use Kubuntu CD as a Standard APT cd?
[05:13] <fdoving> bibek: dsl IS .deb based, i just checked.
[05:14] <jps> lacin> I tryed to do that... got no good results... if you have broadband, i sugest using apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:14] <bibek> fdoving: thanks, does it take debian repos?
[05:14] <jps> its a ~150mb download
[05:15] <fdoving> bibek: i belive so, you can transform it into debian, it says.
[05:15] <lacin> jps, In fact I want Install KDE in my workplace and there I have 56K! limited account.
[05:15] <bibek> fdoving: thanks, another question, how do i boot into init 1 from grub
[05:15] <fdoving> lacin: you can use the alternate cd. as a repo cd. the desktop/livecd is useless for that purpose.
[05:16] <fdoving> bibek: select recovery mode.
[05:16] <lacin> fdoving, TNX
[05:16] <bibek> fdoving: ah TNX too
[05:18] <Xen0l> !shell
[05:18] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:19] <str> Hi all
[05:20] <Xen0l> hey is there any way i can switch between tabs in konqueror with keyboard and not by mouse?
[05:21] <aseigo> alt+,.
[05:21] <Dr_willis> Xen0l,  i recall there being a way.. but i forget how. :)
[05:22] <aseigo> er, ctrl+,.
[05:22] <fdoving> Xen0l: ctrl+, and ctrl+. here
[05:22] <fdoving> :)
[05:22] <aseigo> also, ctrl+pageup/pagedown
[05:22] <tonino> hi all
[05:22] <Xen0l> thx :D
[05:23] <tonino> xenol suck my big cock you and your problem..bastard
[05:23] <Dr_willis> 0_o?
[05:23] <uaxe> ehi tonino, i have a problem
[05:23] <Xen0l> !language
[05:23] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:23] <Xen0l> so tonino GTFO
[05:24] <tonino> hi all..
[05:25] <fdoving> !language | tonino
[05:25] <ubotu> tonino: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:25] <fdoving> thanks for understanding.
[05:25] <tonino> ok...
[05:25] <tonino> ok..
[05:25] <uaxe> tonino, please be friendly
[05:25] <uaxe> this is a serious
[05:25] <uaxe> forum
[05:25] <tonino> uaxe....god.................
[05:25] <uaxe> ?? tonino what is your problem?
[05:27] <uaxea> ehi tornino, can you help me?
[05:27] <tonino> uaxe, i have a photo on my desk..i think that it is you..
[05:27] <uaxea> oooooh... and what kind of photo
[05:27] <uaxea> it is
[05:28] <tonino> it is a big pig.... :)
[05:28] <Jucato> hm...
[05:28] <uaxea> tonino??????????
[05:28] <Jucato> uaxea, tonino: -offtopic
[05:28] <uaxea> what are you telling???????
[05:28] <tonino> i have a problem.......
[05:28] <uaxea> yes tonino
[05:28] <uaxea> i know
[05:28] <uaxea> you have
[05:28] <uaxea> a big
[05:28] <uaxea> mental problem
[05:28] <Xen0l> lol
[05:28] <fdoving> tonino: this channel is for support only, general chatter happens in #kubuntu-offtopic.
[05:28] <uaxea> you should suck my umid dic
[05:28] <fdoving> uaxea: that applies to you too.
[05:28] <tonino> foving me???
[05:29] <Jucato> both of you stop it
[05:29] <tonino> fdoving me???
[05:29] <uaxea> tonino sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:29] <fdoving> tonino: yes. you.
[05:29] <uaxea> let's stop
[05:29] <tonino> uaxea....
[05:29] <uaxea> this
[05:29] <uaxea> tonino where are
[05:29] <uaxea> you from?!
[05:29] <tonino> from san francisco..
[05:30] <uaxea> oooooh... i'm from dallas
[05:30] <uaxea> shall we meet
[05:30] <fdoving> uaxea, tonino, go to #kubuntu-offtopic please. if you have some question, ask it, everything else happens in #kubunut-offtopic
[05:30] <uaxea> ?
[05:30] <Jucato> #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:30] <tonino> uaxea, a gay party???
[05:30] <uaxea> tonino FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUu
[05:31] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:31] <Jucato> oh great :P
[05:31] <Dr_willis> Business as usual eh?
[05:32] <fdoving> hi slow-motion.
[05:32] <slow-motion> hi fdoving
[05:32] <Xen0l> tonino aint u drunk?
[05:32] <Jucato> heh sorry... kinda new to this :P
[05:32] <Jucato> Xen0l: he won't be able to answer :)
[05:32] <Xen0l> :)
[05:32] <Xen0l> ah
[05:32] <Xen0l> just realized
[05:33] <fdoving> you'll have to move the offtopic chatter to #kubuntu-offtopic.
[05:33] <mindspin> anyone here a wine expert?
[05:33] <HymnToLife> !anyone | mindspin
[05:33] <ubotu> mindspin: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:34] <mindspin> HymnToLife: If nobody would reply.I'd know nobody is an expert ....
[05:34] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[05:34] <Jucato> mindspin: or those who are experts aren't here or unavailable
[05:34] <mindspin> yup
[05:34] <Jucato> in any case, you could also try asking in #winehq if things don't work out here
[05:35] <mindspin> hanx Jucato
[05:35] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: I'm not an expect either :P
[05:36] <BluesKaj> trying to get the open source ATI driver to work again but I get this message: "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"... I'm wondering what xlib is missing to make it work , can't tell what i need from the descriptions in adept or synaptic
[05:37] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj: you can fix that in your xorg.conf iirc
[05:37] <BluesKaj> I tried adding GLX to extensions in xorg.conf, but no luck so far
[05:37] <Admiral_Chicago> ah that would have been my suggestion
[05:38] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  its possible the Open source driver dont support that?
[05:39] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, i had it working but after a kernel upgrade I lost the driver somehow
[05:39] <Dr_willis> ahh. interesting.
[05:40] <thelinuxguy> you need to add Option "Composite" "Disable" in xorg.conf, in section extentions
[05:40] <Dr_willis> well in the past when updating the kernels - ive had to reinstall the fglrx stuff..but you are not using fglrx.. so. not sure what to tell ya. :)
[05:40] <bibek> problem!! when booting, the kubuntu with progressbar starts
[05:40] <BluesKaj> fgl_glxgears generates the above error
[05:40] <VSpike> I find Akregator very slow ... is that just the way it is, or do I have a problem?
[05:40] <thelinuxguy> thank you, Dr_willis ;-)
[05:40] <bibek> but after sometime, the screen is filled with numbers like 400:1234 etc etc in rows and cols
[05:40] <VSpike> It seems to take several seconds of 100% CPU load to switch to a new feed.
[05:41] <BluesKaj> yeah that's done  Dr_willis
[05:41] <bibek> and after some time, kdm start
[05:41] <VSpike> 7 seconds to switch to Planet Ubuntu feed, for example
[05:41] <bibek> is anyone familier with this problem?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> bibek,  but it runs fine?
[05:41] <bibek> yeah
[05:41] <bibek> kdm starts fine
[05:41] <Dr_willis> bibek,  sounds like some normal kernel messages and so on.. check 'dmesg' out put perhaps.
[05:41] <Admiral_Chicago> VSpike: never happened to me
[05:41] <bibek> also at tty1 i get strange messages
[05:41] <bibek> like eax .....
[05:41] <bibek> i forgot
[05:42] <Dr_willis> I tend to disable the splash screens and so forth - so i always see ll the purty messages
[05:42] <bibek> how do i do that?
[05:42] <thelinuxguy> bibek, do you unmount open partitions when you quit using your computer ?
[05:42] <Jucato> Dr_willis: you can have the splash screen plus some purty messages :)
[05:43] <Jucato> remove the "quiet" option in menu.lst
[05:43] <VSpike> Admiral_Chicago: interesting. There are a lot of articles in that feed.  Do you have any with a lot of articles like that?  I have archiving disabled.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  ive noticed more disrtos having that 'logo at top' and 'messages at bottom' sort of splash stuff now a days. :)
[05:43] <bibek> i dont
[05:43] <bibek> but should they be automatically dismount?
[05:43] <Admiral_Chicago> I had ~30 feeds, keep them about a week old at most
[05:43] <Dr_willis> I use 'nosplas nofb verbose' (i think)
[05:43] <Jucato> Dr_willis: yes. and they have better bootsplash programs/engines :)
[05:44] <Jucato> yes, I almost forgot :)
[05:44] <thelinuxguy> bibek, yes, they *should* unmount by themselves, but don't always do :-)
[05:44] <Jucato> I thought the new year would bring in a new Dr_willis :P
[05:44] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, does this tell you anything ?   Error: couldn't get an RGBA, Double-buffered visual
[05:44] <bibek> thelinuxguy: they were detected during kubuntu installation
[05:44] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  well i may be getting a New Wife.. (well getting rid of the old one)
[05:44] <bibek> thelinuxguy: i didn't add them in fstab myself
[05:45] <Jucato> :O
[05:45] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis: yea just throw her out
[05:45] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  she left allready
[05:45] <bibek> How do i take screenshot of the errors :-D
[05:45] <Admiral_Chicago> :(
[05:45] <thelinuxguy> bibek; alright, so you get strange messages on your screen. try to watch from wich point they start to appear...
[05:46] <bibek> thelinuxguy: the splash screen starts, at some point before it completes,
[05:46] <dwidmann> bibek: the printscreen key
[05:46] <bibek> dwidmann: does it work in CUI mode?
[05:46] <dwidmann> I really doubt it
[05:47] <thelinuxguy> bibek: start up your pc without "quiet" in your kernel-option line.
[05:47] <thelinuxguy> so you can watch all messages go by
[05:47] <bibek> thelinuxguy: alright, by editing grub conf file?
[05:47] <thelinuxguy> press "e" during the grub screen to alter the line
[05:47] <thelinuxguy> press then "b" to boot...
[05:47] <bibek> thelinuxguy: thanx i got it
[05:48] <bibek> thelinuxguy: i wish i could get screenshots
[05:48] <thelinuxguy> not easy during boot to do anything ;-)
[05:49] <bibek> thelinuxguy: how do distros put screenshots of their boot screens ???
[05:49] <Jucato> bibek: vmware probably.... or something
[05:49] <thelinuxguy> they install the distro in VMware or something other Xen-like environment
[05:50] <bibek> ic
[05:50] <bibek> i'll reboot and try to copy some error lines
[05:50] <thelinuxguy> so they boot that distro while still running there main - operating system
[05:50] <Xen0l> which piece of software has same features or similar to notepad in win xp? kate in kde?
[05:50] <thelinuxguy> bibik; alright, good luck !
[05:51] <Dr_willis> gee.. notepad.. one of the most lacking in features text editor out....
[05:51] <dwidmann> wait, since when did notepad have features?
[05:51] <thelinuxguy> XenOl: gedit ?
[05:51] <Admiral_Chicago> Xen0l: correct! but kate is better
[05:51] <Xen0l> so kate also make hmtl php script and more?
[05:51] <Dr_willis> text editors are text editors....
[05:51] <dwidmann> kedit is probably closer to notepad really
[05:51] <Jucato> Kate > Kwrite (simplified Kate) > Kedit
[05:52] <Admiral_Chicago> vim ftw...not
[05:52] <Jucato> :p
[05:52] <Jucato> nano, vim, emacs...
[05:54] <Dr_willis> cream, fte, mcedit,
[05:54] <Dr_willis> scite
[05:54] <Admiral_Chicago> man i just log into a terminal and don't use a GUI
[05:54] <Admiral_Chicago> pshh, who needs X
[05:54] <Admiral_Chicago> just kidding
[05:55] <Dr_willis> fte is a very nice editor for the console
[05:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:55] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll keep that in mind
[05:55] <Admiral_Chicago> bbl
[05:56] <bibek_> hi
[05:57] <bibek_> i could see exactly when the problem started since the message covered my screen very fast
[05:57] <bibek_> the errors were like this
[05:57] <bibek_> 370:4c/0a,   371:44/40, 372:52/75 .......................
[05:58] <bibek_> and other similar numbers
[05:58] <bibek_> any idea
[05:58] <bibek_> ?
[05:58] <Admiral_Chicago> bibek_: when did this start?
[05:58] <Dr_willis> theres a big differance between 'errors' and 'warnings/information'  :)
[05:58] <Dr_willis> dmesg - may show some info on the specifics
[05:58] <bibek_> well lets say its unknown text
[05:58] <thelinuxguy> bibek: they were *just* numbers, no text beside them ?
[05:58] <bibek_> no
[05:59] <bibek_> there were 5 columns with plenty of rows filling my whole screen
[05:59] <bibek_> it started before my hd check
[05:59] <bibek_> yes there was test
[05:59] <Admiral_Chicago> bibek_: might be a improperly configured X. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if it is
[05:59] <bibek_> at the last
[05:59] <bibek_> it said
[05:59] <bibek_> Not Automatically fixing this
[05:59] <Admiral_Chicago> but i'll leave you to these fine gents. i have to go
[05:59] <thelinuxguy> bibek: I'm sorry, I've never seen that happening before...
[06:00] <SharkPaul> hi to all
[06:00] <gothard_> root@gothard-laptop:~# tail -f /var/log/dmesg
[06:00] <SharkPaul> and happy new year
[06:00] <bibek_> it shouldn't be x coz x starts only after it has mounted my hdisks and all
[06:00] <gothard_> [17179591.376000]  lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).
[06:00] <thelinuxguy> Bibek: are you *sure* you don't have problems with your harddisk or partition ?
[06:00] <gothard_> [17179591.428000]  SCSI subsystem initialized
[06:01] <gothard_> [17179591.440000]  ieee1394: sbp2: Driver forced to serialize I/O (serialize_io=1                            )
[06:01] <bibek_> well its causing no problem yet
[06:01] <gothard_> [17179591.440000]  ieee1394: sbp2: Try serialize_io=0 for better performance
[06:01] <bibek_> no i dont
[06:01] <gothard_> [17179591.492000]  fuse init (API version 7.6)
[06:01] <gothard_> [17179591.528000]  Adding 714852k swap on /dev/disk/by-uuid/055ab876-2f67-4c4f-83                            ad-8d6ba622c454.  Priority:-1 extents:1 across:714852k
[06:01] <gothard_> [17179591.600000]  EXT3 FS on hda3, internal journal
[06:01] <gothard_> [17179591.696000]  NET: Registered protocol family 17
[06:01] <gothard_> [17179592.648000]  NET: Registered protocol family 15
[06:01] <gothard_> [17179594.232000]  serial8250: too much work for irq4
[06:01] <gothard_> why did i have it?
[06:01] <bibek_> i can access them all, ah
[06:01] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste | gothard_
[06:01] <ubotu> gothard_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:01] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: wait i might have problem
[06:01] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: sometimes my root partitioned HD doesn't get detected by bios so i have to restart
[06:01] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: is it dieing?
[06:02] <SharkPaul> Could anybody help me?
[06:02] <dwidmann> probably
[06:02] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: and one of the pins in its ide port just broke :-(
[06:02] <Xen0l> and plz which program can work wwith virtual drives and images audner linux?
[06:02] <thelinuxguy> bibek: I can't tell that from here, of course, but it strikes me as odd...
[06:02] <dwidmann> bibek_: broken pins aren't good
[06:03] <thelinuxguy> bibek: I think you just solved your problem....
[06:03] <bibek_> dwidmann: yeap, i know, will backup by files tonight,
[06:03] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: wow im genius :-D, anyways, have no other functional problems yet
[06:03] <SharkPaul> bibek_:can you help me?
[06:04] <bibek_> SharkPaul: whats ur problem,
[06:04] <thelinuxguy> bibek: just make sure you backup your stuff a.s.a.p. !
[06:04] <bibek_> SharkPaul: we're all here to ease ur pain
[06:04] <SharkPaul> well,when i insert an audio cd in my pc
[06:04] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: yeah
[06:04] <SharkPaul> and I go in the mount point of the cd
[06:04] <SharkPaul> It seems there arent any files!
[06:05] <SharkPaul> Why?
[06:05] <dwidmann> probably isn't mounted
[06:05] <Xen0l> !virtual drive
[06:05] <bibek_> SharkPaul: u should mount it first
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtual drive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <SharkPaul> no,it's mounted
[06:05] <bibek_> SharkPaul: r u sure?
[06:05] <SharkPaul> becouse with data cd this doesn't happen
[06:05] <SharkPaul> how can I control if a device is mounted?
[06:06] <dwidmann> SharkPaul: might as well double check, pull up konsole and put this in: mount /media/cdrom
[06:06] <bibek_> SharkPaul: well in my kubuntumoster, if i dont click Open, then it wouldn't mount
[06:06] <bibek_> SharkPaul: yeah please follow dwidmann
[06:06] <SharkPaul> No,the Cd is mounted
[06:07] <thelinuxguy> SharkPaul: you just can't mount audio-cd's, you just play them :-)
[06:07] <thelinuxguy> fire up any cd-playing program and press "play"...
[06:07] <SharkPaul> This is normal,but in the folder there doesn't appears any file
[06:07] <SharkPaul> thelinuxguy:i 've just tried
[06:08] <thelinuxguy> and ?
[06:08] <SharkPaul> and when I've runned Amarok
[06:08] <dwidmann> after mounting, there is a neat virtual toy in the audio cd folder, you can drag and drop the folders (each having the name of a different audio format), and it will automatically rip & encode them :)
[06:08] <SharkPaul> It said:
[06:08] <SharkPaul> one moment...
[06:08] <bibek_> i thought fstab was the solution to all the worlds mounting problems
[06:08] <bibek_> but with USB , fstab is not so useful
[06:09] <thelinuxguy> no bibek; audio files are not regular files and therefore you can't "mount" a music cd...
[06:09] <SharkPaul> no,it's solved!
[06:09] <SharkPaul> strange,but it's so
[06:09] <SharkPaul> :P
[06:09] <bibek_> thanks guys
[06:10] <dwidmann> and how was it solved SharkPaul
[06:10] <thelinuxguy> your're most welcome....
[06:10] <bibek_> its strange but its true, i also didn't see any files on the cd
[06:10] <bibek_> either
[06:10] <SharkPaul> thanx for the (littlesupport,
[06:10] <thelinuxguy> :-P
[06:10] <bibek_> but with rightclick the cdrom folder and click play, its solved
[06:10] <SharkPaul> yes,if I play the cd,it's solved
[06:10] <bibek_> how to mount usb media?
[06:11] <SharkPaul> but if I want to see the files in the cd,it isn't possible
[06:11] <SharkPaul> why?
[06:11] <dwidmann> It *should* do that for you automatically bibek_, else, it's probably going to mount as /dev/sd?#
[06:12] <SharkPaul> so,i must go
[06:12] <bibek_> dwidmann: yeah but say i just want to mount usb and not open in knoqueror
[06:12] <dwidmann> (the letter and the number will differe, for me it's sdc1)
[06:12] <SharkPaul> Thanx again
[06:12] <bibek_> dwidmann: i want to do this for cdroms too
[06:12] <SharkPaul> Bye
[06:12] <eMaX> hi all
[06:13] <kraut> !xgl
[06:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:13] <bibek_> dwidmann: if i switch to fluxbox, i have to go to xterm and do pmount /dev/sda
[06:13] <dwidmann> *nod*
[06:14] <eMaX> anyone knows how to copy a vcd with ubuntu?
[06:14] <HymnToLife> eMaX, define "copy"...
[06:14] <dwidmann> I'm wondering why KDe isn't automounting it for you though bibek, that's weird ...
[06:14] <eMaX> write from cd rom to a .iso file and then later write back
[06:14] <dwidmann> eMaX: if it can be done, the best place to look would be k3b
[06:15] <bibek_> dwidmann: it automounts alright
[06:15] <bibek_> dwidmann: but i use fluxbox sometimes, so mounting is pain in the a**
[06:16] <eMaX> k3b apparently cannot do it
[06:16] <thelinuxguy> bibek: please type "man mount" in a terminal to learn howto mount a disk.... any disk ! :-)
[06:16] <soulrider> sometimes my hard drive light stays on and kubuntu freezes, i cant even move the mouse, restart x or anything. Any ideas ?
[06:16] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: mount only mounts for entries in fstab or by becoming root i can do mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[06:17] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: or something similar
[06:17] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: but like kde does, its really cool
[06:17] <thelinuxguy> eMax: k3b can copy anything I trow at it here... what's youre prob ?
[06:17] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: it mounts my USB stick to /media/BIBEK since label is BIBEK
[06:17] <eMaX> I have a video cd (vcd) and it cannot copy it apparently
[06:17] <thelinuxguy> bibik; right...
[06:17] <eMaX> (not a dvd)
[06:17] <dwidmann> !uuid
[06:17] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[06:18] <HymnToLife> eMaX, just dump an ISO using dd
[06:18] <dwidmann> maybe it will let you do it with the uuid .... hmmmm
[06:18] <HymnToLife> ans burn it with k3b
[06:18] <HymnToLife> and*
[06:18] <bibek_> ok, leave this anyways
[06:18] <bibek_> one last question
[06:20] <eMaX> well doesn't work Input/output error
[06:20] <eMaX> seems to have 2 tracks, one short one of 2 megs and a 450 meg one
[06:20] <thelinuxguy> bibek: I'm getting hungry, please post you're question....
[06:20] <dwidmann> haha thelinuxguy .... thanks for reminding me that I was hungry too ...
[06:20] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: wont keep u hungry for long
[06:21] <thelinuxguy> :-P
[06:21] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: :-) when i put my usb stick, i get the KDE Daemon with options
[06:21] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: Open in New Window, Digikam and Do Nothing
[06:21] <eMaX> bibek_ wow. I even get it twice
[06:21] <ubuntu> yeeeey
[06:21] <ubuntu> first time linux
[06:21] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: if i dont click Open in New Window it wont mount
[06:21] <Xen0l> i have downloaded tar.bz2 of FF2 how need i install it? ./configure, make and make-install ?
[06:22] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: but i dont use Konqueror, i use krusader
[06:22] <thelinuxguy> bibek: that's normal...
[06:22] <dwidmann> bibek_: even if I click open in new window it doesn't like to mount sometimes ...
[06:22] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: so is there a way i can put Mount option so that the device is just mounted
[06:22] <thelinuxguy> I'm using krusader too.... ;-)
[06:22] <dwidmann> flakey
[06:23] <dwidmann> bibek_: I remember there is a way to change the default file manager if you want to, can't recall how, the all knowing google surely knows, I've consulted google for that before ;)
[06:23] <thelinuxguy> bibek: is your usb device listed in fstab ?
[06:23] <bibek_> nop
[06:23] <eMaX> if damn skype would support video conferences I could convince everyone here to stop using windoze. I hate installing xp just for that.
[06:23] <ubuntu_> yeeehaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:23] <thelinuxguy> add it to fstab and the system will mount it for you if you're define "auto"
[06:24] <ubuntu_> i like linux
[06:24] <ubuntu_> but it seems to hate me
[06:24] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: yeah that seems decent option, then i can mount umount using krusader itself
[06:24] <ubuntu_> or my computer
[06:24] <thelinuxguy> bibek: right on....
[06:25] <ubuntu_> got no sound, computer is laming, all my data lost,...
[06:25] <eMaX> ubuntu_ so you are happy you got a backup
[06:25] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: but that will give problem, coz some hardwares have sda and some have sda1 for the usb disk
[06:25] <ubuntu_> right
[06:26] <hinork> it's italian channel of kubuntu?
[06:26] <thelinuxguy> bibek: use in fstab a line like : (example) /dev/sda1 /media/extern_data  auto  auto,users,owner,rw 0 0
[06:26] <HymnToLife> !it | hinork
[06:26] <ubotu> hinork: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:26] <ubuntu_> well.. im going to hack my self right now
[06:26] <hinork> thanks very much
[06:26] <ubuntu_> have a got time! cza!
[06:26] <thelinuxguy> bibek: you use different usb sticks ?
[06:27] <bibek_> yeah
[06:27] <bibek_> i got a mp3 player and a usb drive
[06:28] <[GuS] > Hi guys!... which tool i could use to convert .uif images files to .iso.. or just extract it?
[06:28] <thelinuxguy> bibek: so define a line in fstab for *both*, no prob I'm sure ?
[06:28] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: yeah, im just a little lazy, hehe
[06:29] <esaym> anyone got a good website for grub commands? i need to disable acpi and apm and stuff like that
[06:29] <thelinuxguy> done the same thing here on this machine and it works like a charm....
[06:29] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: everything is fine in kde, works like charm, but since im on either xfce or fluxbox most of the time, i have hell of a time mounting the drives
[06:29] <esaym> after my machine boots the kernel it reboots.... :(
[06:29] <thelinuxguy> so, don't use xfce or fluxbox and you're problem is over ! :-)
[06:30] <esaym> im thinking disable acpi but i dont know how to pass the commands to grub
[06:30] <thelinuxguy> just kidding, bibek... :-)
[06:30] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: hehe i have p3 with 384 mb ram and i need to run tomcat and eclipse at the same time
[06:31] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: u can imagine :-D
[06:31] <thelinuxguy> esaym: just add -noacpi in your kernel options line
[06:31] <eMaX> bibek_ thou shalt forget about that
[06:31] <esaym> where do i add it?
[06:31] <Xen0l> plz wat commands i need to write in konsole in order to isntall firefox 2 from tarball?
[06:31] <thelinuxguy> bibek: I can see you're problem....
[06:31] <esaym> press "e" or something at the grub menu?
[06:32] <thelinuxguy> bibek: didn't santa-claus bring you a new pc ? ;-)
[06:33] <Xen0l> !installing from tarball
[06:33] <esaym> well brb
[06:33] <bibek_> thelinuxguy: yeah but hes smart as hell and asks for money, i dont have any :-(
[06:33] <bibek_> well guys nice having conversation with you
[06:34] <bibek_> in my part of the world its 11:20pm so i need to doze off
[06:34] <bibek_> gnit all
[06:34] <thelinuxguy> bibel: good night...
[06:34] <thelinuxguy> bibek: i'm going to diner now... :-)
[06:35] <thelinuxguy> linux guy signing off.
[06:35] <Xen0l> plz can someone gimme advices about hot to install FF 2 from tar.bz?
[06:36] <bibek_> Xen0l:
[06:36] <bibek_> why r u compiling
[06:36] <bibek_> u can get the binary in tar.bz from getfirefox
[06:37] <bibek_> Xen0l: ??
[06:37] <Xen0l> i dl it and wat next?
[06:37] <bibek_> did u extrace it?
[06:37] <bibek_> tar -xvf filename.tar.bz
[06:37] <Xen0l> not yet
[06:38] <Xen0l> wat else? ./configure and make and last make-install?
[06:39] <bibek_> Xen0l: what is the filename? i think u might have binary version
[06:39] <bibek_> try ./firefox
[06:39] <Xen0l> filename is firefox-2.0.0.1.tar.gz
[06:39] <Xen0l> i extracted but how do i need to install it?
[06:40] <bibek_> Xen0l: did u do ./firefox
[06:40] <Xen0l> nop
[06:40] <bibek_> Xen0l: or as i remember ./firefox-bin
[06:40] <bibek_> Xen0l: try it
[06:40] <aloyarc> yes, yes, yes, artrage2 works under wine in kubuntu edgy
[06:40] <Xen0l> no such file for ./firefox-bin
[06:40] <Xen0l> and firefox is folder for ./firefox
[06:41] <bibek_> go inside firefox
[06:41] <Xen0l> bibek_  i extracted it and need to install how to do it? not make and make-install?
[06:41] <bibek_> Xen0l: wait a minute
[06:41] <bibek_> Xen0l: let me search
[06:41] <Xen0l> k
[06:41] <bibek_> Xen0l: i think u have downloaded a binary package
[06:42] <bibek_> Xen0l: not a source package
[06:42] <bibek_> Xen0l: so there is already a firefox executable
[06:42] <bibek_> Xen0l: no need to compile
[06:42] <bibek_> Xen0l: can u confirm that?
[06:42] <Xen0l> i donwloaded from www.mozilla.org
[06:42] <bibek_> Xen0l: go inside the folder and see if there is any file called firefox
[06:43] <Xen0l> yel
[06:43] <Xen0l> yep is
[06:43] <bibek_> Xen0l: run the file
[06:44] <ubuntu> are there anybody from turkey
[06:44] <Xen0l> bibek_ nothing happens
[06:44] <aloyarc> Ubuntu i can find someone
[06:44] <bibek_> Xen0l: goto konsole
[06:44] <bibek_> Xen0l: go inside firefox folder
[06:44] <Xen0l> i am in folder of FF
[06:44] <bibek_> Xen0l: type ./firefox
[06:45] <bibek_> Xen0l: what does it say?
[06:45] <Xen0l> firefox is opened
[06:45] <bibek_> Xen0l: ?? is it working??
[06:45] <Xen0l> yes
[06:45] <aloyarc> installing windows firefox on a linux system ?  why ?
[06:45] <Xen0l> lol no
[06:46] <Xen0l> i am DL tar.bz from i686 linux
[06:46] <bibek_> Xen0l: what do u mean by firefox is opened?
[06:46] <Xen0l> page opened
[06:47] <Xen0l> i can vies webn
[06:47] <Xen0l> view web
[06:47] <aloyarc> Ubuntu try ubuntu-tr
[06:47] <Xen0l> !tr
[06:47] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[06:47] <Xen0l> !hu
[06:47] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[06:47] <Xen0l> !sk
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <bibek_> Xen0l: so that means firefox works
[06:48] <bibek_> Xen0l: ??
[06:48] <Xen0l> yeah
[06:48] <ubuntu> turkeyyyyyy
[06:48] <bibek_> Xen0l: ur problem solved?? Congrats
[06:48] <Xen0l> i want to know how can i add it to kmenu under internet?
[06:48] <Xen0l> bibek_ ty
[06:48] <bibek_> Xen0l: :-) ahhh should have said that earlier
[06:49] <bibek_> Xen0l: u should do that manually,
[06:49] <Xen0l> bibek_ i will write and tell me if t is possible
[06:49] <Xen0l> i will DL 1.5.0.9 from apt-get isntall firefox
[06:49] <bibek_> Xen0l: rightclick any item on the menu and click "Edit Menu"
[06:49] <bibek_> Xen0l: KDE Menu Editor will open
[06:50] <bibek_> Xen0l: following me?
[06:50] <Xen0l> yea
[06:50] <bibek_> Click Internet
[06:50] <bibek_> goto File > New Item
[06:50] <bibek_> Type Firefox as ItemName
[06:51] <bibek_> in right side, in Command browse for the extracted folder/firefox file
[06:51] <bibek_> and firefox should be there in the menu
[06:52] <bibek_> Xen0l: does it work?
[06:52] <Xen0l> yes
[06:52] <Xen0l> but that firefox fodler must be in my home fodler?
[06:52] <bibek_> Xen0l: happy?
[06:52] <Xen0l> aint it possible to move it to /?
[06:52] <bibek_> yeah, but why?
[06:53] <bibek_> Xen0l: does anyone else use the computer?
[06:53] <ubuntu> k'mse varmi
[06:53] <Xen0l> yes
[06:53] <Xen0l> using one account
[06:53] <Xen0l> for all
[06:53] <bibek_> Xen0l: you can put it in /opt
[06:53] <bibek_> and change the permission
[06:54] <Xen0l> bibek_ i want to know it is possible to update isntalled 1.5.0.9 FF though adept update somehow to FF2 or not
[06:54] <bibek_> yeah ofcourse
[06:54] <bibek_> that is the best way,
[06:54] <Xen0l> but how
[06:54] <Xen0l> ?
[06:55] <bibek_> Xen0l: sudo apt-get update firefox
[06:55] <Xen0l> but in apedt i cant see version 2.0.0.1 only 1.5.0.9 aitn in official repos
[06:55] <bibek_> Xen0l: wait let me check
[06:56] <bibek_> Xen0l: what is ur kubuntu version?
[06:56] <Xen0l> 6.06.1
[06:56] <bibek_> did u update?
[06:56] <Xen0l> i DL iamge and made fresh isntall no update or anything
[06:56] <bibek_> Xen0l: well i have 6.10 and firefox 2 is by default
[06:56] <bibek_> oh wait then
[06:57] <Xen0l> i have problems isntalling 6.10
[06:57] <Chousuke> Xen0l: Why do you need 2.0?
[06:57] <Chousuke> Dapper's 1.5 works just fine.
[06:57] <Xen0l> chousuke mayb cause i am used to it want to use new features
[06:57] <Chousuke> if you want a newer one, you should update to edgy.
[06:58] <Chousuke> Xen0l: Hm.
[06:58] <intelikey> dappers foomatic-db is broken
[06:58] <Chousuke> Most of the new features on 2.0 are not visible to the user though.
[06:58] <bibek_> Xen0l: can u do sudo apt-get update
[06:58] <Xen0l> bibek_ ofc gimme few sec
[06:58] <Xen0l> secs
[06:59] <bibek_> Chousuke: FF2 does sound cool, 1.5 sounds ol :-)
[06:59] <Chousuke> Xen0l: If you want to have a stable Ubuntu system, you must learn to live with the fact that you won't always have the latest and the greatest.
[07:00] <Chousuke> installing packages from outside the distro introduces potential instability and "taints" the distribution.
[07:00] <bibek_> Chousuke: Drapper doesn't have FF2 in main repos?
[07:00] <Chousuke> that's correct, as far as I know.
[07:00] <Chousuke> !info firefox
[07:00] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 28588 kB
[07:00] <intelikey> !ff
[07:00] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[07:01] <Chousuke> hmm
[07:01] <bibek_> Chousuke: ah, i use edgy so i didn;t know
[07:01] <Chousuke> !info firefox dapper
[07:01] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.8-0ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 7746 kB, installed size 22952 kB
[07:01] <Xen0l> bibek_  update done and no new updates avaiable
[07:01] <Chousuke> yeah, dapper has 1.5.0.8
[07:01] <bibek_> hmmmmm
[07:01] <intelikey> and 2.0
[07:01] <Chousuke> with security updates, of coutse.
[07:01] <Chousuke> course*
[07:01] <intelikey> see the link on latest
[07:01] <Xen0l> any repo from mozilla.org?
[07:02] <intelikey> see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion  <^
[07:02] <Chousuke> hm
[07:02] <Chousuke> that method looks unclean
[07:02] <Chousuke> and you lose automatic updates.
[07:03] <Chousuke> which is a bad thing.
[07:03] <intelikey> which is a bad thing.   IF  the installed version is faulty    but a good thing when the update breaks things  as has happened many times.
[07:03] <Xen0l> why the f*** devs cant do .deb of firefox 2 on dapper?
[07:04] <Chousuke> Xen0l: because dapper's versions are frozen
[07:04] <Chousuke> there will be no new versions of software for it.
[07:04] <bibek_> ah
[07:04] <Xen0l> so they only making for edgy ?
[07:04] <Chousuke> yeah.
[07:04] <intelikey> no
[07:04] <Chousuke> though edgy is frozen now too.
[07:04] <Xen0l> i would like have edgy too
[07:04] <bibek_> Chousuke: no kidding?
[07:04] <intelikey> for the newer fisty
[07:05] <Xen0l> but problem is i cant isntall
[07:05] <Chousuke> you can "backport" packages, but that's unofficial usually
[07:05] <Chousuke> Xen0l: can't you upgrade dapper to edgy?
[07:05] <Chousuke> what happens?
[07:05] <bibek_> what if u download firefox2 .deb for edgy and dpkg it?
[07:05] <Xen0l> if i try to instal it from live cd and installion starts my monitor turns off and and when i cpress something it again turns on and isntallation crashed
[07:06] <Xen0l> so afaik i dont know wat to do
[07:06] <Xen0l> i wans thinking about afresh isntall of dapper
[07:06] <Xen0l> no codecs, no isntalling into it
[07:06] <intelikey> use the alternate install cd
[07:07] <Chousuke> are w32codecs even needed nowadays?
[07:07] <Xen0l> alternate is possible to isntall from USB?
[07:07] <Chousuke> since vlc and mplayer support wmv anyway
[07:07] <intelikey> never were needed
[07:07] <Xen0l> i dont use vlc or mplayer
[07:07] <Chousuke> what do you need nonfree codecs for anymore.
[07:07] <Chousuke> Xen0l: well, totem should support them too.
[07:07] <Chousuke> or whatever you use.
[07:07] <Xen0l> hh i am using kaffeine
[07:08] <Xen0l> and i dont like GNOME
[07:08] <Xen0l> so nothing from ti
[07:08] <Xen0l> it
[07:08] <Chousuke> though I don't know if the support is in Dapper yet.
[07:08] <apokryphos> xine can play almost anything
[07:08] <apokryphos> and recent versions of ffmpeg can play wmv 9
[07:08] <Xen0l> dapper is LTS version
[07:08] <Chousuke> apokryphos: yeah.
[07:08] <Xen0l> so it should be till 2009
[07:09] <apokryphos> all the info is on the RestrictedFormats page
[07:09] <apokryphos> Xen0l: yeah, but in 2009 it will be ooooold news =)
[07:09] <apokryphos> well, dapper is already old news :P
[07:09] <Xen0l> so one question if devs dont make deb for dapper how can be dapper LTS?
[07:09] <apokryphos> LTS = Long Term Support
[07:10] <intelikey> apokryphos yes 6 months old    that's ancient
[07:10] <Xen0l> it is for security updates?
[07:10] <apokryphos> it will get security fixes and maybe large bugfixes
[07:10] <Xen0l> ah
[07:10] <apokryphos> intelikey: exactly; it hurts =)
[07:10] <intelikey> lol
[07:10] <apokryphos> even edgy hurts ;-)
[07:10] <Xen0l> edgy is old too? :p
[07:11] <intelikey> an i was just considering installing hoary over the top of dapper so my printer would work
[07:11] <apokryphos> just kidding. Edgy is ok, if not entirely solid enough.
[07:11] <Xen0l> aint edgy kinda buggy?
[07:11] <apokryphos> intelikey: yeouch. Hoary is crazy old :)
[07:11] <Ash-Fox> Gah, I can't remember what that command was for setting 'default' alsa devices (the device that takes first place). I know there is a method todo it via asound.conf and kernel module tricks, but I'm pretty sure I used a command in the past. I can't remember what it was
[07:11] <apokryphos> Xen0l: I'd say it wasn't a great release, but it did have its share of good things.
[07:11] <intelikey> yeah over a year
[07:12] <Xen0l> so if i want stable system i should use dapper?
[07:12] <apokryphos> edgy isn't that unstable. It's just not great to upgrade to (problematic for quite a few), and a little rough around the edges
[07:13] <apokryphos> it's good enough to use though, for sure
[07:13] <Xen0l> so someone tell me
[07:13] <Xen0l> forget about dapper and move to edgy?
[07:13] <apokryphos> sure, why not
[07:13] <intelikey> but the way i look at it as long as the software is newer than the hardware why upgrade,    and if the software is crap because it is a version or two behind the latest, then why should one think the latest to be any good; for surely in a few days it's makers will be calling it crap also....
[07:13] <apokryphos> backup your relevant stuff and upgrade (if you're brave) or fresh install
[07:14] <fyrewol> hello
[07:14] <apokryphos> intelikey: so never upgrade =)
[07:14] <Xen0l> with upgrading dapper to edgy can be problems?
[07:14] <apokryphos> intelikey: newer doesn't always necessitate less stable
[07:14] <apokryphos> Xen0l: yes. You're safer if you follow the guide completely
[07:15] <fyrewol> Does anyone know any good programs for file sharing on Kubuntu?
[07:15] <apokryphos> I did it and it was fine, but there have been a few problems around
[07:15] <intelikey> no but older doesn't by default mean worth less either
[07:15] <vbgunz> anybody here use karamba? what the hell do you do with it? I've man karamba and karamba --help-all  and it has got to be the most pointless help ever :(
[07:15] <Xen0l> wat kinds of problems?
[07:15] <apokryphos> ubotu: info superkaramba
[07:15] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 515 kB, installed size 1408 kB
[07:15] <vbgunz> I just want weather on my panel *but* I'll settle if I can get it on my desktop
[07:15] <apokryphos> vbgunz: eyecandy, basically.
[07:15] <vbgunz> not superkaramba
[07:15] <apokryphos> Xen0l: /topic
[07:15] <apokryphos> vbgunz: karamba is an older version of superkaramba
[07:16] <vlad_ri> hello, everybody! Happy New Year!
[07:16] <vbgunz> oh, really I thought it was dead
[07:16] <dwidmann> superkaramba = an app to display python scriptable desktop widgets
[07:16] <HymnToLife> !superkaramba
[07:16] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[07:17] <Xen0l> apokryphos: i know wat i will do remove everything, sell PC and i will have no problems :p
[07:17] <vbgunz> anybody know where I can get more panel applets? I tried kdetoys *but* the weather applet there is dead :(
[07:17] <apokryphos> python scriptable, but the themes themselves don't require you knowing python (necessarily)
[07:17] <vlad_ri> can someone help me? i have a problem with the screen resolution...
[07:17] <apokryphos> vbgunz: well, what are you looking for?
[07:17] <apokryphos> vlad_ri: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[07:17] <HymnToLife> no, you can download premade ones
[07:17] <intelikey> ok this is another (hopefully less offencive) way of saying the same thing.     software does not decay with age, contrary to popular belief.  :)
[07:17] <fyrewol> how do I download and install superkaramba
[07:17] <HymnToLife> but knowing a bit helps to tweak them to your needs :)
[07:17] <angasule> intelikey: what? bit rot is real!
[07:18] <dwidmann> http://www.kde-look.org
[07:18] <apokryphos> superkaramba is in the repos
[07:18] <apokryphos> use adept to install it from there
[07:18] <apokryphos> ubotu: adept
[07:18] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:18] <vbgunz> I would like a weather applet... the one that comes in kdetoys is broken, it keeps complaining no station found... so, I'll settle for weather on the desktop and kde-look led me to karamba... but I man and begged for help and that was pointless :(
[07:18] <apokryphos> vbgunz: kicker comes with a built-in kweather; don't think that's from kdetoys...
[07:18] <dwidmann> vbgunz: look up liquidweather, if you don't mind having it on the desktop
[07:18] <HymnToLife> vbgunz, just sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[07:18] <apokryphos> vbgunz: past that, SK is of course the most popular with LW
[07:18] <vlad_ri> i run kubuntu 6.10. when it starts the logon screen is in the lowest resolution, then after logon it change to my default 1280x1024
[07:19] <HymnToLife> and then install your applet in it
[07:19] <vbgunz> I just installed superkaramba
[07:19] <vbgunz> I hope it isn't as ill as the other
[07:19] <vbgunz> one sec
[07:19] <vlad_ri> how can i change this behavior, that it start with the default 1280x1024?
[07:19] <apokryphos> vlad_ri: in the X configuration remove all resolutions apart from the one that you want
[07:19] <HymnToLife> !resolution | vlad_ri
[07:19] <ubotu> vlad_ri: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:19] <vbgunz> ahh... superkaramba actually does something :)
[07:20] <intelikey> so is there any chance that the broken database in foomatic-db dapper  will be patched ?
[07:20] <vbgunz> apokryphos, kweather didn't come with kubuntu-desktop... I got from kdetoys
[07:20] <apokryphos> vbgunz: kweather is part of kicker. Right-click -> add to panel
[07:20] <vbgunz> I would much rather have my weather in the panel but I guess the desktop is fine too
[07:21] <vbgunz> apokryphos, it wasn't available and is the only reason I went looking for something to enhance it... I found kdetoys
[07:21] <apokryphos> hm, ok
[07:22] <intelikey> vbgunz kde has a wether feed in it's taskbar by default    no?
[07:22] <intelikey> weather  that is.
[07:23] <intelikey> could add  wmweather or wmweather+  to that also
[07:23] <intelikey> kweather - weather display applet for KDE
[07:23] <vbgunz> intelikey, no, I wish it did, I went nuts looking for it... its the only reason I went to kdetoys for it, then it shows up but it's broke, so that led me to karamba which led me here
[07:24] <intelikey> well kubuntu may not   but kde does
[07:24] <apokryphos> ubotu: info kweather
[07:24] <ubotu> kweather: weather display applet for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1213 kB, installed size 2268 kB
[07:24] <apokryphos> doesn't look like that's attached to kdetoys
[07:25] <dwidmann> kweather is a dependency of the kdetoys metapackage
[07:25] <vbgunz> im new to kde
[07:26] <angasule> kweather has been broken for at least a year
[07:26] <angasule> I'm pretty sure I filed a bug on it, but I guess it's not a priority
[07:28] <soulrider> !es
[07:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:28] <intelikey> angasule hmmm what's broken about it ?
[07:28] <gaki333> hi every body
[07:28] <gaki333> i need your help
[07:29] <vbgunz> man if it aint one thing it's another :(
[07:29] <soulrider> gaki333: whats up ?
[07:29] <gaki333> about some problems when i launch any programs as kate
[07:29] <angasule> intelikey: it doesn't work? I mean, you select where you are, and nothing happens
[07:29] <gaki333> i have in konsole the error
[07:29] <gaki333> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[07:30] <gaki333> Xlib: No protocol specified
[07:30] <vbgunz> I click install on the superkaramba install for liquidweather and it takes me to a webpage with nothing else todo :(
[07:30] <gaki333> kdeinit: Can't connect to the X Server.
[07:30] <gaki333> kdeinit: Might not terminate at end of session.
[07:30] <gaki333> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[07:30] <gaki333> Xlib: No protocol specified
[07:30] <gaki333> kded: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[07:30] <gaki333> DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-6910' to 'kded'
[07:30] <gaki333> kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
[07:30] <gaki333> but kate works
[07:30] <intelikey> angasule never had that problem here.   have you tried selecting from the list ?
[07:30] <dwidmann> vbgunz: one sec, I'll grab a download link for ya ;)
[07:31] <gaki333> so any idea ?
[07:31] <intelikey> you may have to select something near but not exactly where you are.   not all locations have a noah feed   (or simular)
[07:31] <vbgunz> dwidmann, I got it but Konquerer insist it immediately opens the link in kate... seriously, whats up with that? no choice :(
[07:32] <dwidmann> That's odd, it did that to me before once too, forget how I dealt with that
[07:32] <angasule> intelikey: I go to 'Weather Service' and add my city, click on 'update all', it updates the little icon (to rain, which is obviously wrong) but in 'Display' I get nothing new
[07:32] <intelikey> hmmm
[07:33] <vbgunz> only firefox insisted on opening it... I think the links at the site might be at fault too as firefox did open one of the mirrors right in the browser but konq, opened all of them in kate :(
[07:34] <stivani> !wireless me
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireless me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <intelikey> angasule you are in  ARGENTINA ?   does your city have a public service weather feed  ?
[07:34] <dwidmann> http://www.message.co.nz/~matt-sarah/lwp-13.5.1.skz
[07:34] <HymnToLife> stivani, just pm the bot
[07:34] <angasule> intelikey: I have no idea, but why is the city on the list if there is no feed?
[07:35] <angasule> intelikey: I also don't see how to manually add a feed (not that I would know where to find one)
[07:35] <intelikey> angasule select us new york city    and see if it works.... at least that will tell you if the app is working correctly or not
[07:36] <manchicken> Where is the global KDE menu stored?
[07:36] <dwidmann> vbgunz: wget this url - http://www.message.co.nz/~matt-sarah/lwp-13.5.1.skz
[07:36] <intelikey> manchicken /usr/share/kde3/something iirc
[07:36] <vbgunz> dwidmann, thanks man, I already got through firefox, now I need imagemagick
[07:36] <manchicken> No kde3 path...
[07:36] <intelikey> kde* then
[07:37] <angasule> intelikey: I added NY and now I get to select my own city on the 'display' (but NY is not available), the weather report is not my city's (maybe NY's?)
[07:38] <manchicken> I'm installing some games from source for my wife.
[07:38] <manchicken> Trying to put them in the games menu for her.
[07:38] <intelikey> yeah angasule maybe   temp about 0 C
[07:38] <angasule> intelikey: now I added doha, and now instead of just my city, I have my city, NY and doha, basically, the applet is screwed up
[07:38] <angasule> intelikey: nope, I was getting 16C
[07:38] <manchicken> kmenuedit doesn't work for the global menu.
[07:39] <intelikey> 16C != ny today
[07:39] <lauthiamkok> testing
[07:39] <intelikey> lauthiamkok beep.
[07:39] <lauthiamkok> :)
[07:40] <angasule> intelikey: now I can get what I guess is the proper weather for NY, but my city's weather is bogus, it says 16C and storms, and there's a clear sky and 32C
[07:41] <angasule> intelikey: the fact that I have to add extra cities, accept the config, open config, select my city on display, remove other cities, close config, shows that the applet is broken, even beyond the feed issues there might be
[07:41] <intelikey> angasule that sounds more like the location selected at fault than the polling app   you should see if you can find out more about your local public services     a weather app relies solely on public service postings/feeds  for it's info.
[07:42] <soulrider> i find wather applets/widgets to be rather useless.... =/
[07:43] <angasule> soulrider: why? because they don't work?
[07:43] <soulrider> no, htey do work
[07:43] <soulrider> but i just have no use for them
[07:43] <soulrider> i dont see the point of having them when you can just look outside your window: P
[07:44] <angasule> soulrider: my room is 20 meters away from the front door, and I can't go outside half-dressed to check the weather, can I? :P
[07:45] <vbgunz> soulrider, can you look at your window today and tell whats it gonna be like on Friday? if so, give me handle so we can be best friends!
[07:45] <vbgunz> heh
[07:45] <soulrider> vbgunz: i had mad weather forecast powers
[07:45] <angasule> soulrider: just looking out the window doesn't tell much here, the sky can look the same whether it's 51C (31/12/06) or 25C
[07:46] <vbgunz> oosome :)
[07:46] <angasule> vbgunz: even meteorologists can't tell that reliably for my city anyway :P
[07:46] <vbgunz> :)
[07:46] <angasule> this city is on a line, sometimes we get the weather from the pampas, sometimes from the patagonia
[07:48] <angasule> and it's a very clear line, on the 31st, in less than a second it changed from a very light rain to a storm that tore down trees and went to cero visibility (I was driving at the time)
[07:49] <vbgunz> for those real familiar with superkaramba, I have a question... will all applets most likely have contradicting themes?
[07:49] <vbgunz> cause the liquid weather applet is looking great... I never had a desktop applet this before :)
[07:51] <braddoro> is edgy able to write to an ntfs drive?
[07:51] <unix_infidel> !ntfs
[07:51] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[07:51] <braddoro> thanks
[07:51] <apokryphos> braddoro: no
[07:51] <apokryphos> only read
[07:52] <angasule> vbgunz: is liquid weather included in superkaramba?
[07:53] <apokryphos> no, but you can use the get new stuff button to get it
[07:53] <vbgunz> angasule, no
[07:54] <vbgunz> angasule, yeah, I had to click install, go to a web page, click on the download link and use superkaramba to open a theme... heh, or wget it from the link above
[07:54] <vbgunz> http://www.message.co.nz/~matt-sarah/lwp-13.5.1.skz
[07:54] <angasule> vbgunz: thanks :)
[07:55] <vbgunz> :)
[07:55] <vbgunz> anybody here use gnome? there is an applet that when you click on it, it turns into a crosshair and when you click on an app, it kills it on the spot... anything like that for KDE?
[07:56] <la> sometimes i like gnome
[07:56] <la> ;p
[07:57] <unix_infidel> vbgunz: xkill?
[07:57] <unix_infidel> !info xkill
[07:57] <ubotu> xkill: X client - xkill. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 60 kB
[07:57] <adz21c> vbgunz: depending on ur key set up ctrl+alt+esc
[07:57] <unix_infidel> adz21c: that's not what he wants.
[07:57] <adz21c> ok
[07:57] <la> when i instal my language package why i still have english
[07:58] <vbgunz> xkill?
[07:58] <bank> Hello guy, I have some problem. Who can help me, please
[07:59] <vbgunz> yeah xkill was it :)
[08:00] <vbgunz> I killed my desktop too :(
[08:00] <vbgunz> it seems there is no escape once it is set into motion :(
[08:00] <unix_infidel> just restart kde
[08:00] <unix_infidel> no big deal.
[08:01] <dwidmann> easier option: pull up konsole: type kdesktop and hit enter
[08:01] <vbgunz> kdesktop did it!
[08:02] <vbgunz> man, I've been on Ubuntu for over a year... I swore by Gnome everyday... then, thanks to PCBSD, I saw the power in KDE. hence my upgrade from Gnome to KDE... still experimenting though
[08:02] <vbgunz> thanks fellas!
[08:02] <dwidmann> I still want to try pcbsd, it actually looks like something interesting
[08:03] <vbgunz> dwidmann, it's awesome imho, though this is what happened... the more I used it the more I fell in love with KDE. The more I fell in love the more I got scared...
[08:04] <dwidmann> hahaha
[08:04] <angasule> vbgunz: cool, got it working, it's great :)
[08:04] <vbgunz> I am just scared because I have a whole year+ of configs and work saved under Gnome... I am dreading moving it over and purging Gnome
[08:04] <vbgunz> I mean KDE frigging rocks and you guys are all alright!
[08:05] <dwidmann> the work should be easy to transfer, the configs might take longer to redo
[08:07] <vbgunz> I am trying to redo my panels... I forgot the name of the Gnome app that bites the Mac entry bar... the one you enter text and get a popup of choices...
[08:07] <vbgunz> currently I found katapult
[08:09] <dwidmann> katapult is lovely
[08:10] <vbgunz> holy crap, my tomboy notes :O
[08:10] <dwidmann> after hitting alt+space you have somethign that can open any personal document/music/video/bookmark/etc file, a calculator, and a calculator all in one :)
[08:11] <vbgunz> heh
[08:12] <caminante> buenas tardes
[08:12] <vbgunz> for the hackers, anyone know if it is possible to customize the icons on the desktop so that the text aligns to it's right? the same way you would see it in a file browser in detail view?
[08:12] <vbgunz> I ask because I beginning to think KDE can feed the poor :P
[08:12] <vbgunz> heh
[08:13] <dwidmann> hahaha ... I don't know of any way of doing it
[08:13] <manchicken> I still can't figure out how to change the global menu.  This is getting annoying.
[08:14] <dwidmann> global menu?
[08:14] <manchicken> Yeah.
[08:14] <manchicken> The KDE menu for all users.
[08:15] <aseigo> manchicken: you need to edit the .menu files in the system dir.. which, if you look in /etc/kderc is in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/ for kubuntu
[08:17] <manchicken> aseigo: Would doing a `KDEHOME='/usr/share/.../default' sudo kmenuedit` help me?
[08:18] <aseigo> manchicken: hm... that should work, yes
[08:19] <aseigo> ah, wait.. it might not anymore now that we use the .menu files
[08:19] <aseigo> since it'll store them in .config, etc...
[08:19] <manchicken> I see no .menu files in the kde-profile/default.
[08:19] <aseigo> manchicken: look in /ext/xdg/menus ...
[08:21] <manchicken> Okay, that points me to kde-games.directory (trying to add an entry for a game), and kde-games.directory is empty.
[08:21] <manchicken> Nothing but strings and icons defined.
[08:23] <manchicken> And I can't find a single piece of accurate documentation on this.
[08:29] <vbgunz> I switched into Gnome, I am talking about Deskbar... Does Kubuntu have something like this?
[08:30] <vbgunz> or is katapult the deal here?
[08:48] <ebiven> Anyone know how I get Kubuntu to stop updating my motd file for me?
[08:48] <fdoving> ebiven: edit /etc/motd.tail instead of /etc/motd directly.
[08:59] <denis> was ist denn das fr ein Deutsch??
[08:59] <denis> das TOPIC????
[08:59] <jewbilee> Hi, I accidently hit the menu bar while using amaroK, can anyone tell me how to bring it back?
[08:59] <denis> boah kotz
[08:59] <zorglu_> !de|denis
[08:59] <ubotu> denis: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:59] <denis> ?
[08:59] <denis> aha
[09:00] <zorglu_> denis: i dont speak german :)
[09:00] <denis> trotzdem ist es falsches Deutsch
[09:00] <denis> ok
[09:00] <jewbilee> can anyone help me?
[09:00] <denis> sso who wrote it?
[09:00] <denis> whatever
[09:00] <denis> but I also have a problem with the kicker
[09:00] <zorglu_> denis: the help sentence ? someone who did speak german :)
[09:00] <zorglu_> oh you can speak english :)
[09:01] <zorglu_> ok which one
[09:01] <denis> off course
[09:01] <zorglu_> !anyone | jewbilee
[09:01] <ubotu> jewbilee: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:01] <denis> you can st it up so that it disappers after some time
[09:01] <denis> set it up
[09:01] <zorglu_> ok
[09:02] <zorglu_> oh is that your question ?
[09:02] <zorglu_> you wanna know how to do it ?
[09:02] <jewbilee> While using amaroK, I accidently hit the menu bar, how do I bring it back
[09:02] <denis> and you can also set it up the way that it disappears but returns when your mouse goes over it, like in windows
[09:02] <denis> no, I want my kicker back! ;-)
[09:03] <denis> isnt there a shortcut for the K like the windows key on the keyboard?
[09:03] <zorglu_> jewbilee: try 'ctrl+m'
[09:03] <effo> Ctrl+M toggles the bar
[09:03] <jewbilee> thank you
[09:03] <effo> varsegod ;)
[09:04] <zorglu_> denis: you set it up and now you can no more access it, correct ?
[09:04] <denis> right
[09:04] <denis> ctrl+M only works in this program
[09:04] <denis> no, in konqueror too
[09:04] <zorglu_> i guess you tried putting the mouse close tto the usual location ?
[09:05] <denis> but not on the desktop
[09:05] <denis> sorry, I dont understand your assumption
[09:05] <zorglu_> your kicker is usual at the bottom of the screen ?
[09:05] <denis> right
[09:06] <denis> I was there with the mouse, right
[09:06] <zorglu_> and nothing happened, i guess
[09:06] <effo> does anybody know how to enable sub-pixel rasterisation in edgy?
[09:06] <zorglu_> do you see any arrow icon on the bottom/left/right of the screen ?
[09:06] <denis> no
[09:06] <dwidmann> effo, pull up systemsettings, go to appearance,->fonts
[09:07] <dwidmann> I think it's in there anyway effo
[09:07] <zorglu_> denis: another possibility would be to delog/relog in the hope it comes back, have you tried ?
[09:07] <denis> yes, I have
[09:07] <cavediver> Hello. I have ubuntu installed and wanted to try Kubuntu, so I installed the kubuntu-desktop package but the package wvdial refused to install ( I waited 10 min) It doesn't seem to work as the package depends on kubuntu-desktop and thus is not itself installed. Anyone have a possible solution ?
[09:07] <denis> it didn t help
[09:07] <zorglu_> pfff :)
[09:08] <zorglu_> ok let me think :)
[09:08] <denis> I have time ;-)
[09:08] <effo> I have tried it, its in the font settings, but when I use xdpyinfo it tells me the sub-pixel order is set to unknown :(
[09:08] <zorglu_> "ps auxwww| grep kicker" <- denis put this in a terminal and tell me if the process is running :)
[09:08] <denis> ok, one second
[09:09] <zorglu_> !font | effo
[09:09] <ubotu> effo: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[09:09] <denis> what do you mean with "running" if it helped?
[09:09] <denis> this is my result
[09:10] <zorglu_> effo: unsure it is related, but just in case it helps...
[09:10] <denis> denis@Opteron:~$ ps auxwww| grep kicker
[09:10] <denis> denis     5002  0.1  2.1  32764 16652 ?        S    17:06   0:15 kicker [kdeinit                                                           ] 
[09:10] <denis> denis     5772  0.0  0.1   2924   828 pts/1    S+   21:09   0:00 grep kicker
[09:10] <zorglu_> denis: shoot
[09:10] <zorglu_> denis: ok the 5002, the first is the kicker process running
[09:10] <denis> ah ok
[09:10] <zorglu_> so it is there, just it doesnt appears on the screen
[09:10] <denis> ok
[09:11] <denis> it s nowhere
[09:11] <denis> not on the left, nor on the right nor on the left nor top
[09:11] <denis> that sucks
[09:11] <zorglu_> ok here 2 possibiilities: 1. remove wildly the config of kicker to remove your setting 2. finding another cleaner way to change your setting
[09:12] <effo> the setting is on in my .fonts.conf but it look like the xserver doesn't care about it
[09:12] <denis> ok, but I m a rookie, so how will I get a new config file?
[09:12] <zorglu_> denis: ok lets see about the second first
[09:12] <denis> ok
[09:12] <zorglu_> denis: go in a terminal, launch "kcontrol"
[09:12] <zorglu_> denis: in kcontrol, choose "desktop->panel"
[09:12] <denis> done
[09:13] <zorglu_> effo: it may require to relaunch x... so delog/relog or even reboot
[09:13] <zorglu_> denis: the goal is to set it up to make it appears again :)
[09:14] <denis> hehe, your good ;-)
[09:14] <zorglu_> denis: thinking about it, the 'default' button may be good too
[09:14] <effo> zorglu_: i believe i have tried that, but I will try once again
[09:14] <zorglu_> i know :):)))))
[09:14] <denis> ah, good idea
[09:15] <zorglu_> effo: i remember having trouble when i setup the font at first
[09:15] <denis> well, I pushed it
[09:15] <zorglu_> denis:  i havent told but the 'hiding' tab is the one interesting :)
[09:15] <denis> but no kicker
[09:15] <zorglu_> and ?
[09:15] <denis> hiding?
[09:16] <zorglu_> denis: ok you are in 'desktop->panel" ?
[09:16] <zorglu_> denis: we will do it step by step
[09:17] <denis> I am in the control center
[09:17] <denis> thank you
[09:18] <zorglu_> ok go in 'desktop->panel'
[09:18] <zorglu_> you should see 'tab' with 'arrengement/hiding/menus/appearance'
[09:18] <zorglu_> on the right
[09:19] <effo> *sigh* xdpyinfo still report 'sub-pixel order Unknown' :(
[09:19] <xst> I've just bought a new monitor that cannot handle the same display settings as my old monitor. How do I make (k)ubuntu re-probe my monitor and configure X accordingly?
[09:20] <denis> hmm
[09:20] <zorglu_> denis: still there ?
[09:20] <denis> is there something with kicker?
[09:20] <denis> yes
[09:20] <denis> but I m not sure if its the same in german
[09:20] <zorglu_>  ok go in 'desktop->panel'
[09:20] <denis> i am there
[09:21] <denis> 1., 2. or 3. tab?
[09:21] <denis> or later?
[09:21] <zorglu_> ok there is 4 tab "arrangement/hiding/menus/appearance". likely very similar word in german
[09:21] <zorglu_> you want 'hiding'
[09:21] <zorglu_> the one which is controling the hiding/nonhiding of kicker
[09:22] <denis> aaahhhh I found it!
[09:22] <zorglu_> nice :)
[09:22] <denis> halelujah
[09:22] <zorglu_> ok once you selected the 'hiding' tab, you press 'default' button and then you press 'apply'
[09:23] <denis> incrredible
[09:23] <zorglu_> and it should come back :)
[09:23] <denis> yes right, thank you veryyy much
[09:23] <zorglu_> it worked ?
[09:23] <denis> yees!
[09:23] <denis> :-)
[09:23] <zorglu_> we did it ! :)
[09:23] <zorglu_> cool :)
[09:23] <denis> you did it
[09:23] <jerp> xst, in a terminal enter:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:24] <denis> well, as I said , I m new ;-.)
[09:24] <denis> by trhe way
[09:24] <denis> as I am already here
[09:24] <zorglu_> denis: cool we are ehere to help
[09:24] <denis> do you know easyubuntu?
[09:24] <denis> great job
[09:25] <zorglu_> denis:  i dont use it, but glad you like it :)
[09:25] <denis> well
[09:25] <xst> jerp: But that forces me to enter a lot of stuff manually. Kubuntu usually detects these things itself automatically when booting from CD. Can't I make it discover the hardware again in the same way on a HD install?
[09:25] <denis> it should help to install these "problematic" drivers
[09:25] <denis> I thoink yo know that
[09:25] <denis> you
[09:26] <zorglu_> i heard of it :) but it fails to find my drivers which are a lot more problematic:)
[09:26] <zorglu_> my graphic card is no more supported by ati :)
[09:26] <denis> yees, it also failed to install java
[09:26] <denis> upps, must be a new one ;-)
[09:27] <denis> aand
[09:27] <jerp> xst, I don't know if there is a process to recover something like that through a cd rescue
[09:28] <denis> well, I dont know if it only failed to link the java plzugin to the browser or it completely failed
[09:28] <zorglu_> denis:  i have looked at the java sutff for a while
[09:28] <zorglu_> !java
[09:28] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:28] <zorglu_> in theory it is explained here, i dunno how uptodate it is
[09:29] <denis> ah, multiverse repository I think I should find that
[09:29] <notech> don't forget to restart the browser
[09:29] <denis> but how do I know if easy ubuntu failed to install java or only failed to link?
[09:29] <denis> ok
[09:29] <elrik> hey
[09:30] <denis> yes?
[09:30] <zorglu_> hmm
[09:31] <zorglu_> denis: 'dpkg -l java' <- will provide unclear output but a 'ii' at the begining mean 'installed'
[09:31] <coreymon77> its my birthday
[09:31] <zorglu_> and im wrong on this one :)
[09:31] <zorglu_> happy birthday coreymon77! :)
[09:31] <coreymon77> !!!
[09:31] <elrik> happy birhtday corey
[09:33] <coreymon77> its also very close to my kbirthday
[09:33] <jerp> corey, congratulations, "almost a new years day baby"
[09:33] <CaBlGuY> wuttup peeps..  oi/
[09:33] <CaBlGuY> O/
[09:33] <CaBlGuY> :p
[09:33] <elrik> how old corey ?
[09:33] <zorglu_> denis: " java -showversion" put that in a terminal, and see if it output somethin g
[09:34] <zorglu_> denis: if yes, java is installed
[09:34] <CaBlGuY> anyone know of a good BT client to use that don't crash..  :/
[09:34] <coreymon77> kbirthday being the day i started with kubuntu
[09:34] <zorglu_> CaBlGuY: azureus/ktorrent ?
[09:34] <coreymon77> 16
[09:34] <CaBlGuY> zorglu_:  used both, both crash..
[09:34] <CaBlGuY> Oh yea..
[09:34] <denis> java version "1.4.2"
[09:34] <zorglu_> well try again :)
[09:35] <CaBlGuY> whats the deal with Falsh 9..   are they workin to make it stable or what?
[09:35] <denis> it  installed but I will try it later
[09:35] <zorglu_> denis: wow this seems pretty old. but at least you got ont
[09:35] <zorglu_> ont=one
[09:35] <denis> I wiull comeback, see you later, thanks for your help
[09:35] <zorglu_> denis: 1.5 is like 2 years old and 1.6 is out recently
[09:35] <zorglu_> denis: ok see ya :)
[09:35] <denis> yes in know
[09:35] <CaBlGuY> anyone?
[09:36] <zorglu_> !flash9
[09:36] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[09:36] <denis> its from easy ubuntu
[09:36] <denis> bye
[09:36] <zorglu_> !info flash9
[09:36] <CaBlGuY> yea, umm  I already know that zorglu_   I was wanting a more specific answer..   but thanks.. ;)
[09:36] <ubotu> Package flash9 does not exist in any distro I know
[09:36] <zorglu_> i think you know too much for me :)
[09:36] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[09:36] <zorglu_> see ya people :)
[09:37] <notech> that's the usual procedure of a beta, to continue to make it a stable
[09:37] <ubuntu> hello, im trying to install grub on my mbr to use a dual boot system, but what is wrong here -> http://rafb.net/p/fk5zTo68.html
[09:37] <bobby__> ubotu try gentoo :)
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about try gentoo :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <cox377> does anyone here have the fuji finepix F30 or similar fuji camara?
[09:37] <bobby__> can someone tell me how i can get the trash can on the desktop?
[09:38] <bobby__> lol he even answerd me
[09:39] <intelikey> bobby__ drag and drop
[09:39] <cox377> bobby__: create a new location with 'trash:/' in the location field
[09:39] <cox377> intelikey: that doesnt work under kubuntu does it?
[09:39] <cox377> fuji anyone?
[09:39] <bobby__> ok ty cox377
[09:40] <intelikey> cox377 yes
[09:40] <cox377> doesnt work for me
[09:40] <intelikey> does for me
[09:40] <soulrider> does anyone know of a good RPG for linux ?
[09:41] <cox377> intelikey: damn.. u boys running 6.10?
[09:41] <cox377> !camera
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <cox377> !fuji
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fuji - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <intelikey> cox377 6.6 here mate
[09:42] <intelikey> soulrider good  meh   wesnoth  teeters on the edge   there are others
[09:42] <cox377> intelikey: very weird, everytime i try to click n drag it just shows the trash options
[09:42] <intelikey> soulrider apt-cache search game | less
[09:43] <cox377> i've just got a new camera, connected it via usb and when the folder opens which u would expect the images to be in it just has
[09:43] <soulrider> im so bored... i need some games...
[09:43] <soulrider>  i think i gonna have to install windou$
[09:43] <cox377> a folder within a folder * 100000 names 'usb ptp class camera' but no pirccies
[09:43] <cox377> intelikey: lol what u mean starts a gui?
[09:44] <cox377> soulrider: why so?
[09:44] <intelikey> cox377 starts a gui means   ah starts a gui    what part of that is difficult to grasp ?
[09:45] <notech> sounds like whatever app it is isn't configured for a ptp camera
[09:46] <soulrider> cox377: i want to be able to play some games
[09:46] <cox377> intelikey: fair enough, but as of yet i havent run any apps without a gui.. and sarcasm is the lowest form of wit ; )
[09:46] <soulrider> and its impossible for me to get the linux versions of quake or UT
[09:46] <cox377> soulrider: got me there
[09:46] <cox377> soulrider: why is it impossible?
[09:47] <soulrider> becuase they dont even sell windows games here :P let alone linux
[09:47] <cox377> here?
[09:47] <notech> then what good does it do to install winodws either?
[09:47] <intelikey> cox377 you ought not accuse,  i wasn't being sarcastic.    i run a gui for two things.   if there should arise something that i can't seem to do in the console   or to answer someones question about it....  this is the second of those.
[09:48] <soulrider> notech: its easier to get copies of windows games ;)
[09:48] <notech> oh, i'm out of a piracy discussion
[09:49] <cox377> soulrider: where are you that makes it so difficult to get games?
[09:49] <soulrider> Uruguay
[09:49] <bobby__> do pentium 3 processors have speedsteping?
[09:49] <intelikey> bobby__ cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:50] <cox377> intelikey: what does your gui tell yah?
[09:50] <bobby__> intelikey: tnx
[09:51] <intelikey> tells me i didn't have kde installed yet on this box on this installation    but i'm getting there.
[09:51] <soulrider> anyone know if theres a loki installed for farcry? =/
[09:52] <bobby__> soulrider UT is no problem at all quake3 and quake4 are ported to linux too
[09:53] <soulrider> bobby__: yeah... but i cant get them
[09:53] <bobby__> you need the windows cds/ dvds
[09:53] <soulrider> oh
[09:53] <soulrider> well
[09:53] <soulrider> UT is boring ithout online play
[09:53] <bobby__> you can play it online
[09:53] <bobby__> i do it all the time on linux
[09:54] <soulrider> yes.. if you bought it :P
[09:54] <bobby__> ut classic and ut2005
[09:54] <bobby__> ut classic i have not bought
[09:54] <bobby__> ut2004 i do own
[09:54] <soulrider> pparently theres a loki installer for knights of the old republic
[09:54] <soulrider> let me find my ut 2004 CDs
[09:54] <bobby__> so your problem is that your cheap not whether linux suports it
[09:55] <soulrider> no
[09:55] <soulrider> i CANT get them here
[09:55] <soulrider> they dont sell PC games
[09:55] <soulrider> at least not original
[09:55] <bobby__> where is here?
[09:55] <soulrider> ./whois soulrider
[09:55] <intelikey> Uruguay
[09:57] <bobby__> anyway there are no packages for it in ubuntu or am i blind?
[09:57] <intelikey> it which ?
[09:57] <bobby__> ut
[09:58] <bobby__> and ut2004
[09:58] <soulrider> damn, i got ut 2003 not ut 2004
[09:58] <bobby__> ut2003 is also ported to linux i think let me check
[09:58] <intelikey> doesn't seem to be in the repos
[09:58] <soulrider> ut was ported i think
[09:59] <bobby__> soulrider: yes ut2003 is ported too
[10:00] <soulrider> i ant play online anyways
[10:00] <bobby__> check www.unrealtournament.com/ut2003/downloads.html
[10:00] <soulrider> i would install farcry but it will probably go berserk with wine and an nvidia card
[10:01] <bobby__> just download the installer and run it as root
[10:01] <ctothej> Trying to update apt-get and I get this: "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" Any suggestions?
[10:01] <bobby__> nvidia cards are well suported but im not a fan of running games in wine
[10:01] <soulrider> yes, i dont like the idea of wine either
[10:01] <soulrider> and farcry has trouble with nvidia cards
[10:03] <soulrider> maybe ill try serious sam
[10:03] <bobby__> i had trouble with ati nd farcry
[10:03] <soulrider> it runs natively
[10:03] <cox377> intelikey: i've managed to get to the images by installing digikam but i really wanted it to act as a mass storage device like my other camara, so it just saw it was a flash device if you like
[10:03] <soulrider> i think im just gonna make room for windows
[10:04] <bobby__> i use windthe ows for most games (not
[10:04] <soulrider> im in usch a bad mood today... sorry if i offended anyone todayt
[10:04] <bobby__> i use windows for most games (not tn
[10:05] <bobby__> for fuck sake that keyboard is anoying
[10:05] <bobby__> i use windows for most games (not the ported ones) and linux for serious stuff
[10:05] <jerp> soulrider, if you can't buy UT2007.  I've got UT2003 and 2004, both are capable to be played on Linux and I'd send you mine if I had your address.   but you can buy UT2004 for $15 ....... on ebay
[10:05] <intelikey> soulrider kudoes    good luck to your penguin    moods are like fecies  they pass.
[10:05] <jerp> http://cgi.ebay.com/Unreal-Tournament-2004-Apple-Mac-OS-X-Game-LIKE-NEW_W0QQitemZ180069894679QQihZ008QQcategoryZ62053QQcmdZViewItem
[10:06] <soulrider> i went to bed at 7 am
[10:06] <soulrider> and my mom got me up before 11
[10:06] <soulrider> and tis SO hot here
[10:06] <tiax> How does KDE determine which charset it will use for filesystems? I have an XFS drive and can't enter directories that have German umlauts
[10:06] <soulrider> i look like my sister with PMS
[10:07] <soulrider> jerp: i really dont wanna spend my savings on a game that i wont have too much time to play
[10:07] <jerp> this one is @ $5 .......   http://cgi.ebay.com/Unreal-Tournament-2004-New_W0QQitemZ140070225239QQihZ004QQcategoryZ80328QQcmdZViewItem
[10:07] <soulrider> once the summer is gone, i dont be able to play
[10:08] <soulrider> and
[10:08] <soulrider> what if they copied the CDs
[10:08] <soulrider> and still keep the CDkey
[10:09] <andreasw> Hi can someone tell me why kubuntu uses eth2 instead of eth1 for my network device
[10:09] <andreasw> the LiveCD uses eth1
[10:09] <soulrider> andreasw: i get eth0 =/
[10:09] <bobby__> how can i check what apt-get is going to install but not install it yet
[10:10] <andreasw> soulrider: well ok I also have 1 eth0
[10:10] <andreasw> soulrider: Overall I have two network devices eth0 and eth2
[10:10] <dwidmann> bobby__: apt-get -s
[10:10] <bobby__> ty
[10:10] <andreasw> soulrider: but why isn't eth2 eth1 which it normally should be
[10:10] <intelikey> cox377 ok that is unilateral.    sorry for the misinfo.   you can drag the trash from the desktop to the pannel  but not in reverse.   my bad.
[10:10] <Quad64bit> Hey, do any of you guys know if they added fan controls to the kernel for PPC G5's?
[10:11] <Quad64bit> to keep the fans from running at 100% all the time?
[10:11] <jerp> soul, ehh, yeah it's chancey but that seller's 'reputation' link is 100% good, selling since 8/2002.
[10:13] <jerp> w/ 59 comments
[10:13] <soulrider> jerp: its not that i dont wanna spend my money, but i find it so retarded that i have to import such a known game
[10:13] <soulrider> becaus ethey dont sell sh*t here
[10:13] <soulrider> and when they do they friggin rob you
[10:14] <soulrider> i think im gonna try and install kotor
[10:14] <soulrider> thats knights of the old republic
[10:14] <cox377> intelikey: np
[10:14] <jerp> yeah, and five buck uraguay is what?  an arm and a leg?
[10:14] <jerp> bucks
[10:15] <soulrider> lol
[10:15] <soulrider> not that much
[10:15] <soulrider> but yeah
[10:15] <soulrider> i could sepdn those 5 on something else
[10:15] <cox377> soulrider: actually i do take it for granted that in the west you just order what you like from where you like and it turns up the next day
[10:15] <intelikey> a trash folder must be for those that frequently delete things that they wanted to keep.
[10:16] <cox377> soulrider: whats it like getting hold of hardware?
[10:16] <soulrider> indeed intelikey
[10:16] <joe_> can someone help me out with Firefox?
[10:16] <soulrider> well, you cant get the latest hardware
[10:16] <soulrider> if you do it can be very expensibe
[10:16] <soulrider> expensive*
[10:16] <jerp> yes and america is to advanced  we should atleast have to wait 6-8 weeks like anyone else
[10:16] <soulrider> but it has been getting a lot cheaper
[10:17] <soulrider> cox377: i run a pretty good computer and it was too expensive
[10:17] <intelikey> jerp
[10:17] <soulrider> actually, i think my dad bought from the importers lol
[10:17] <jerp> yes sir?
[10:17] <jerp> off-topic?  sorry
[10:17] <soulrider> i like this irc channel.....
[10:17] <soulrider> lol
[10:18] <joe_> can someone help me with Firefox crashing? i Googled it, but im really new at this, and dont know what any of that means
[10:18] <intelikey> !ff | joe_
[10:18] <ubotu> joe_: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[10:18] <soulrider> damn intelikeyyou allways beat me!
[10:18] <cox377> joe_: when does it crash?
[10:19] <soulrider> brb
[10:19] <joe_> its Firefox 2.0, and it crashes... apparently whenever it tries to load java or imgs
[10:19] <intelikey> curse me not dear friend, you have but to ask and i would hesitate
[10:20] <intelikey> !java
[10:20] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:20] <intelikey> !Multiverse
[10:20] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:21] <soulrider> im back
[10:22] <soulrider> intelikey: if i split one of my partitions, will kubuntu get screwed up like it did before ?
[10:22] <soulrider> i once did that and it went berserk
[10:24] <HymnToLife> define "split"
[10:24] <soulrider> i ave a partition
[10:24] <soulrider> and i wanna split it in 2
[10:25] <dope> what's a program i can use to put songs on an ipod?
[10:25] <soulrider> like a cake :P
[10:25] <cloakable> dope: Amarok
[10:25] <dope> it's not recognizing my ipod
[10:25] <cloakable> Ahh
[10:25] <HymnToLife> soulrider, with date on it ?
[10:25] <cox377> !ptp
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ptp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <HymnToLife> I mean like, your partition has 20 Gigs of data and you want 2x10 Gigs ?
[10:25] <HymnToLife> I don't think it's possible
[10:26] <soulrider> well
[10:26] <dope> any ideas why it wouldn't recognize it?
[10:26] <soulrider> i gto a 90 gb partition
[10:26] <soulrider> i want one with 60 and one with 30
[10:26] <soulrider> one with 30 for windiws
[10:26] <HymnToLife> but how many free space is there on it ?
[10:26] <cox377> !Picture Transfer Protocol
[10:26] <HymnToLife> much*
[10:26] <cox377> !Picture Transfer Protocol
[10:27] <soulrider> i can make free space
[10:28] <intelikey> again i'm reminded why i refuse to use kde anymore.   i'll not have the days of the week changed thank you very much.   the week begins on sunday ends on saturday, don't mess with it!
[10:29] <Theory> starts on monday here...
[10:29] <copter> hi! does anyone know a program that can copy specified files from cd/dvd ignoring read errors?
[10:29] <cox377> is it possiuble to convert .gz files to .deb so i dont have to install via command line?
[10:29] <intelikey> Theory they you have let them change it.   not my fault.
[10:29] <Theory> it started on monday before I even heard of kde :-)
[10:30] <intelikey> and you are how old ?
[10:31] <sorush20> I have samba running onmy computer but whn I try to access the shared folder on from a win xp computer on the network I keep getting the message to enter a user name and password into to be able to get access.. any ideas?
[10:31] <HymnToLife> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week#Days_of_the_week
[10:33] <intelikey> good post HymnToLife
[10:35] <intelikey> i liked especally the part about all three monothiest religions knowing exactly when the seventh day of a week is....   :)
[10:35] <intelikey> and to whom else would it matter ?
[10:36] <tony_> hello .. is there a way to install limewire ? i have limwire for linux, and converted that to deb.. i installed the program but nothing seems to work
[10:36] <tony_> is there other stuff that ihave to install before installing limewire?
[10:36] <pipboy> try using gtk-gnutella
[10:36] <pipboy> worked for me
[10:37] <tony_> is that in repo ???
[10:37] <pipboy> dunno
[10:37] <pipboy> probably no
[10:37] <tony_> or do i have to go with aptget -install
[10:37] <pipboy> byt if you want to use limewire you have to install java
[10:37] <intelikey> !frostwire | tony_
[10:37] <ubotu> tony_: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:37] <tony_> im not sure if i have java installed
[10:37] <pipboy> gtk-gnutella - download sources and compile
[10:38] <tony_> lol. im way to knew to linux to compile source
[10:38] <tony_> :)
[10:38] <pipboy> or find ind adept
[10:38] <faLUCE> I have a switch with an adsl modem and a pc. therefore, I connect my pc to the modem trhough the switch. Now, I would like that my PC does routing, so I can connect another PC to the switch... how can I do?
[10:38] <pipboy> the only trouble with compiling is the dependencies
[10:38] <xst_> I have bought a new nice monitor and am now using a display mode of 1920x1200. But the Pager in the menu has suddenly become extremely narrow. Can I somehow enlarge it? Or does anyone know of an alternative pager?
[10:39] <slow-motion> n8
[10:39] <intelikey> xst_ set the fonts ?
[10:39] <jerp> intelikey, jews/saturday, Christians/saturday (it's said christ had to get into the grave before the sabbath and rose on the first day of the week)  Islam/I don't know.
[10:39] <tony_> how can i tell , if JAVA has been installed on my linux
[10:40] <pipboy> run adept and check - the easiest way
[10:40] <intelikey> jerp yes.   i didn't mean to open a discussion on world religions  just commenting on the wikipedia mosting that HymnToLife posted  ^  :)
[10:41] <jerp> ok
[10:42] <xst__> intelikey: The fonts look great. Its just the desktop squares that has becom very narrow
[10:42] <tony_> the only JAVA installation is  libjline-java :|
[10:42] <pipboy> have you updatet the sources.list?
[10:42] <aloyarc> how do i set the minimum password length in *buntu from the cli ?
[10:42] <intelikey> xst__ idk.     is it the whole desktop to narrow for the display ?
[10:46] <tony_> i think i have to install sun-java5-jre ?? it seems this is the right one .
[10:46] <intelikey> yes
[10:46] <faLUCE> another question: my pc is connected to a switch and I have ipmasq installed. if I launch ipmasq, can I connect another pc to the same switch and use the first pc as a gateway?
[10:46] <enzy> hi , i have a problem with my fonts. They all seem to be verry blurry. Only when the fonts are in bold they are ok. Can someone help me out pls
 you have to use your 1st pc as a ruter and the 2nd as i client
[10:48] <pipboy> use firestarter
[10:49] <intelikey> hmmm missing something... this is blurting out null key errors:  grep: /usr/share/zoneinfo/zone.tab: No such file or directory
[10:50] <faLUCE> pipboy: if I launch ipmasq, does the first pc works automatically as a router?
[10:50] <faLUCE> pipboy: if I launch ipmasq, does the first pc work_ automatically as a router?
[10:50] <ironfroggy_LT> i have a my laptop running a cloned desktop to my TV via s-video
[10:50] <ironfroggy_LT> but it seems to be a smaller resolution, can i scale it or something?
[10:51] <ironfroggy_LT> or, even better, can i just run it non-cloned?
[10:51] <xst__> intelikey: The whole desktop is 1920x1200 and thus wider than tall. But the desktop grid is taller than wide - which is wrong
[10:51] <cox377> right, i think the problem lies with my camara using ptp protocol rather than the old mass storage protocol
[10:51] <cox377> does anyone know how to make it work as a mass storage?
[10:52] <ironfroggy_LT> what id really like is if i could configure xine such that if the other monitor is available, it plays on that. can that be done?
[10:52] <enzy> hi , i have a problem with my fonts. They all seem to be verry blurry. Only when the fonts are in bold they are ok. Can someone help me out pls
[10:53] <ironfroggy_LT> enzy: probably just antialiasing
[10:53] <ironfroggy_LT> its that or they are all jagged
[10:53] <ironfroggy_LT> the blurring is to make the rounded edges appear round and soft, not jagged.
[10:53] <enzy> even when i put antialiasing on they are fucked :x
[10:53] <intelikey> cox377 lots of cameras have an option in the menu to choose storage/ptp
[10:53] <intelikey> or disk/ptp
[10:53] <tony_> ohh shoot. instaling java , my adapt got stuck .. in deatail it shows the " configuring sun java " and there is ok button that i have press , which in this mode aint working
[10:53] <cox377> intelikey: dammit, appears this one doesnt
[10:54] <tony_> what the hell should i do withough damaging my linux
[10:54] <DBO> !ohmy | enzy
[10:54] <ubotu> enzy: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:55] <aseigo> tony_: try running apt-get upgrade from the command line .. it'll give you a command line for (iirc) dpkg which should get you running again
 you have to run installation from console not from adept
[10:55] <intelikey> tony_   kill adept and run this in a konsole   sudo dpkg --configure -a ;sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[10:55] <pipboy> exactly
[10:55] <tony_> how to canacel from adapt .. ???
[10:55] <mateo> hello la room
[10:55] <aseigo> tony_: ctrl+alt+esc .. gives you a skull 'n crossbones
[10:55] <tony_> should i just close adapt ???
[10:55] <aseigo> tony_: click on the window
[10:55] <tony_> thanks.
[10:56] <pipboy> /192.168.0.1/upload /media/upload smbfs rw
[10:56] <pipboy> can someone tell me what is wrong?
[10:56] <pipboy> not mounting at all
[10:56] <intelikey>  //
[10:56] <pipboy> i've got //
[10:57] <intelikey> pipboy doesn't smb require // on it's mounts
[10:57] <mateo> i d'ont find unrar on the depot
[10:57] <intelikey> !unrar-free
[10:57] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[10:57] <intelikey> !unrar
[10:57] <ubotu> unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[10:58] <mateo> unrar free arent on depo
[10:58] <intelikey> unrar-free is In component universe  ^   see above.
[10:58] <mateo> i look thx
[10:59] <jerp> aseigo, after you do the ctrl+alt+esc on your desktop, how do you get it to come back?
[10:59] <intelikey> !universe | mateo
[10:59] <ubotu> mateo: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:59] <ironfroggy_LT> anyone here using ATI Mobility with dual screens?
[10:59] <aseigo> jerp: good question. =) do you have a konsole handy?
[10:59] <tony_> using consol , i still get that screen to accept the licenening ..
[10:59] <fdoving> ironfroggy_LT: yes. i do.
[10:59] <ironfroggy_LT> specifically, using the s-video output?
[10:59] <jerp> yes
[10:59] <tony_> lol
[11:00] <aseigo> jerp: if not.. what you can do is right click on the panel, add applet, add the run command applet and run kdesktop from there
[11:00] <intelikey> jerp sudo dpkg --configure -a ;sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[11:00] <tony_> i did that
[11:00] <ironfroggy_LT> can i get the 2nd screen to stop scrolling around?
[11:00] <intelikey> and it installed ok
[11:00] <intelikey> ?
[11:00] <fdoving> jerp: can't you use alt+f2 to get the run-command dialog? i belive that is kwin, isn't it?
[11:00] <aseigo> jerp: ah, you do... then just run kdesktop from a konsole
[11:00] <tony_> using sudo apt get . i get the licencing  agrement at the end . but i can not click on OK
[11:00] <aseigo> fdoving: nope. kdesktop
[11:00] <fdoving> aseigo: roger.
[11:00] <aseigo> fdoving: in kde4 it's its own app though
[11:00] <aseigo> (for precisely reasons like these)
[11:00] <jerp> I used the konsole and it's back
[11:01] <fdoving> aseigo: nice :)
[11:01] <aseigo> currently if it crashes it restarts, but that can be foiled (as there are safties in place to prevent constant respawning, etc) ... so dbus auto-activation will cover even the pathological cases where it crashes and doesnt' come back
[11:01] <mateo> i find unrar thx a lot
[11:02] <intelikey> hmmm missing something... this is blurting out null key errors:       because >>>  grep: /usr/share/zoneinfo/zone.tab: No such file or directory
[11:02] <mateo> bye c u
[11:02] <jerp> yeah that works....
[11:02] <sjrextor> hello
[11:02] <intelikey> anyone know what package is missing ?
[11:02] <ironfroggy_LT> fdoving: anyt ideas, by chance?
[11:03] <sjrextor> how can I install a canon pixma ip1600 onto kubuntu 606
[11:03] <sjrextor> ?
[11:03] <fdoving> ironfroggy_LT: yes. do you use xinerama or mergefb?
[11:03] <ironfroggy_LT> no, this is the first ive had this setup
[11:04] <fdoving> ironfroggy_LT: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[11:04] <ironfroggy_LT> yeah
[11:05] <fdoving> intelikey: tzdata.
[11:05] <intelikey> k ty
[11:06] <aseigo> sjrextor: apparently using the ip2200 printer driver. give it a whirl. plug it in and fire up the printer configuration dialog
[11:06] <ironfroggy_LT> http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/3106
[11:06] <intelikey> not a package name in dapper tho fdoving
[11:07] <fdoving> intelikey: locales in dapper.
[11:07] <intelikey> ooooh yuch  no wonder it's missing.    ok thanks.
[11:08] <boggystudios> has anyone here compiled a low latency kernel for 6.06?
[11:08] <intelikey> lox latency ?
[11:08] <intelikey> what do you mean prezactly ?
[11:08] <boggystudios> for pro audio recording
[11:08] <fdoving> ironfroggy_LT: you use clone-mode right?
[11:09] <ironfroggy_LT> yes but i wouldnt mind avoiding it
[11:09] <intelikey> boggystudios not for that reason but i've build a few custom kernels.
[11:09] <ironfroggy_LT> id actually ideally like to just play movies on the second display. i dont even want a desktop there.
[11:09] <fdoving> intelikey: low latency, fully preempted and so on. patched for audio work and such
[11:10] <intelikey> yes fully preempted  but no special patching
[11:10] <boggystudios> yeah I was wondering if anyone could point me to some info regarding compiling my kernel for audio work
[11:10] <fdoving> ironfroggy_LT: ok, i don't know how to do that, but i can help you add it as an extra screen that you can have apps on.
[11:10] <boggystudios> if anyone here has done that
[11:10] <ironfroggy_LT> fdoving: thats plenty good enough
[11:12] <intelikey> boggystudios i don't have any special url's for you  but i can comment that the 2.6 kernel source has a nice configurator  and compiles like a dream
[11:12] <intelikey> boggystudios junst install build-essential    and grab the source.
[11:13] <intelikey> now as to the special needs i'll have to bow out on that issue.
[11:13] <boggystudios> intelikey: thanks I will try that
[11:14] <intelikey> np.
[11:14] <intelikey> i'm gone.   back me later
[11:14] <fdoving> ironfroggy_LT: you're using the fglrx driver, i know nothing about that. I use the ati opensource ati driver.
[11:15] <Quad64bit> anyone here play with xgl?
[11:15] <Quad64bit> guess not... :(
[11:16] <fdoving> ironfroggy_LT: however, you can look at my xorg.conf to see how I use the ati driver to do laptop 1024x768+ external 1280x1024: http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/xorg.conf
[11:16] <FisherPrice> Hi, is anyone an NVIDIA install expert ???
[11:17] <fdoving> !nvidia | fisherprice
[11:17] <ubotu> fisherprice: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:17] <gnomefreak> FisherPrice: what is the issue?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> dont really need to be an expert to install nvidia
[11:17] <FisherPrice> gnomefreak I've done all the usual.. apt-get install nvidia-glx... even gone to all the sites
[11:18] <gnomefreak> FisherPrice: and?
[11:18] <gnomefreak> FisherPrice: what errors are you getting?
[11:18] <FisherPrice> gnomefreak I've done this before, but my hdd crashed and i didn't keep the backup:(
[11:19] <gnomefreak> FisherPrice: only packages you need are nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy and linux-restricted-modules$'uname -r'
[11:19] <FisherPrice> gnomefreak well, I can get the nvidia driver to work sort've.. it doesnt' come up with the nvidia splash
[11:19] <gnomefreak> FisherPrice: ok do you get a blue screen?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> blue screen wiht greyish color box with text in it
[11:20] <gnomefreak> with even
[11:20] <FisherPrice> gnomefreak depends. if i follow the standard instructions i get a black screen, but i add a few extra lines and everything is fine but no splash
[11:20] <FisherPrice> and i can't start a program with OpenGL
[11:20] <gnomefreak> splash as in usplash?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> FisherPrice: what version of nvidia-glx is installed?
[11:37] <chillian> hi
[11:38] <jerp> chillian, hello
[11:42] <holotone> for some reason, the volume control in my system tray does not work
[11:42] <holotone> but opening kmix and adjusting the PCM level does
[11:42] <endo602> hello
[11:42] <endo602> can someone help me setup an ident id?
[11:42] <vikke> is there any way to hide the statusfield in konqueror?
[11:42] <_Snatch_> hi
[11:42] <endo602> I am using pidentd right now
[11:42] <holotone> how do I make the simple volume control in the system tray work? It's annoying to have to open kmix to adjust the volume every time instead of just mousewheeling over the speaker icon
[11:42] <endo602> I dont know how to use it
[11:42] <_Snatch_> endo602: hahaha, me neither
[11:42] <_Snatch_> hey, people, can anyone tell me how to configure my webcam??????????
[11:44] <genii> Has anyone gotten Conexant HSF/HCF modem drivers compiling under Edgy or Feisty yet?
[11:45] <_Snatch_> hey, people, can anyone tell me how to configure my webcam??????????
[11:46] <endo602> Can someone help me write a script that when I open it up it types a command in konsole?
[11:46] <Lynoure> In katapult, can I somehow configure what documents are in the Document catalog?
[11:47] <genii> endo602 Shouldn't something like "command here | konsole" work?
[11:47] <endo602> could be
[11:47] <_Snatch_> hey, people, can anyone tell me how to configure my webcam??????????
[11:47] <endo602> but
[11:47] <endo602> I need it to move to s certain directory and type  a command
[11:48] <endo602> ie. cd JJJ/
[11:49] <endo602> ./JJJ
[11:49] <genii> endo602 so the "cd /path/here && command | konsole"
[11:49] <_Snatch_> hey, people, can anyone tell me how to configure my webcam??????????
[11:49] <_Snatch_> hey, people, can anyone tell me how to configure my webcam??????????
[11:51] <_Snatch_> please!
[11:51] <Lynoure> _Snatch_: I bet they saw you on the first and second time already
[11:51] <_Snatch_> im desperate!
[11:51] <stdin> !repeat | _Snatch_
[11:51] <ubotu> _Snatch_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:52] <stdin> if no one answers, no one knows
[11:52] <Lynoure> _Snatch_: how about starting with telling which of the gazillion webcams you have?
[11:52] <genii> stdin Hey, hi :)
[11:52] <stdin> he genii :D
[11:52] <_Snatch_> Quickcam
[11:52] <_Snatch_> by logitech
[11:52] <stdin> s/he/hey
[11:52] <Lynoure> _Snatch_: That's the most exact model? No numbers or letters after that?
[11:52] <_Snatch_> hold on
[11:52] <endo602> genii what sort of file do i create to use it .sh?
[11:53] <_Snatch_> Lynoure: its called: Logitech (r) QuickCam (r) Chat
[11:53] <stdin> endo602: as long as it's executable the extention don't matter
[11:53] <endo602> ?
[11:53] <genii> endo You can just make a desktop launcher and use as the command "cd /wherever && command | konsole" Then I imagine it will open Konsole in the right dir with the command inserted
[11:53] <genii> But sh would be default type yeah
[11:53] <endo602> cool
[11:53] <vbgunz> what is Kubuntus equivalent to Gnomes deskbar app?
[11:53] <endo602> thanks man
[12:03] <endo602> is there a way to specify the width the konsole opens
[12:03] <stdin> what is with all the netsplits?
[12:03] <Lynoure> vbgunz: Do you know a lot on Katapult? I'm trying to figure out how to 1) get it to deal with names that start the same and 2) How to get it to find my documents
[12:03] <gnomefreak> stdin: freenode just moving people around (maybe they are board ;))
[12:03] <vbgunz> Lynoure, I am asking for something equivalent to Gnomes Deskbar... coming from Gnome, the Deskbar applet was one of my fav panel applets
[12:03] <stdin> gnomefreak: maybe :P
[12:03] <sorush20> I'm not automounting the cdrom for some reason could someone help please?
[12:03] <genii> endo602 About the width of konsole etc I dunno :(
[12:03] <Lynoure> vbgunz: I guess that means "no"...
[12:03] <endo602> some reason it isnt executed
[12:03] <endo602> ?
[12:03] <chillian> hi
[12:03] <genii> endo602 Hangon let me try it here, I'm on an Edgy box
[12:03] <sorush20> should I have the umountroot service running?
[12:03] <chillian> I want to instal flash
[12:03] <sorush20> umountroot
[12:03] <sorush20> !umountroot
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umountroot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <stdin> sorush20: what are you trying to do?
[12:03] <sorush20> when I load a cd into a drive I don't get the auto mount logo..
[12:03] <sorush20> dialogue
[12:03] <endo602> do i need to put ; at end of line?
[12:03] <chillian> but if I put "./flash-installer in the command box, nothing happens? can someone help
[12:03] <stdin> sorush20: do you get an icon on the desktop?
[12:03] <sorush20> no
[12:03] <chillian> nope
[12:03] <gnomefreak> in what box??
[12:03] <sorush20> and when I go to the directory media I don't see any other mounted icons..
[12:03] <gnomefreak> ther eis no ~/.flash-installer file
[12:03] <chillian> commando uitvoeren
[12:03] <stdin> sorush20: can you mount it manually?
[12:03] <sorush20> stdin: I think I can but only as root
[12:03] <genii> endo602 Interesting, it's not behaving as I would have thought by inserting the command into Konsole
[12:03] <stdin> sorush20: you should be able to mount it as the normal user
[12:03] <sorush20> I have to do sudo mount /dev/had /media/cdrom0, but then there are no viewable files there at ..
[12:03] <genii> (At least by way of making a launcher as I described above)
[12:03] <chillian> file:///tmp/kde-chillian/arkoHNpJW/install_flash_player_7_linux/flashplayer-installer
[12:03] <gopp> hey
[12:03] <gopp> is thier
[12:03] <sorush20> do you have the umountroot process running ?
[12:03] <gopp> a means to get more different kde theme
[12:03] <sorush20> stdin:
[12:04] <chillian> I dont think so
[12:04] <gopp> !theme
[12:04] <genii> endo602 Hangon I'll look for another solution
[12:04] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[12:04] <endo602> thanks
[12:04] <vbgunz> what is Kubuntus equivalent to Tomboy note taking applet?
[12:04] <fdoving> vbgunz: basket is good.
[12:04] <stdin> sorush20: no
[12:05] <stdin> sorush20: that script is only run at shutdown and reboot
[12:05] <sorush20> I can only mount things with sudo .. how do I change this
[12:06] <stdin> sorush20: in /etc/fstab there should be a line with your cd device on it, and it should have the word 'user' near the end
[12:06] <chillian> I always used windows, so I'm real noob in Linux ;)
[12:06] <stdin> sorush20: mine says: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[12:07] <sorush20> user noauto
[12:08] <stdin> that should let you mount it as a normal user
[12:08] <foob> what app do you use to take screenshots in kubuntu
[12:08] <stdin> foob: ksnapshot
[12:08] <foob> oh duh
[12:09] <stdin> :)
[12:09] <foob> how come when i move apps to other desktop workspaces they still are seen minimized in kicker?
[12:09] <sorush20> here is mine
[12:09] <gopp> is thier a way to install kde themes
[12:09] <gopp> like apt-get install kde-themes didn't help
[12:09] <sorush20> http://pastebin.com/849883
[12:09] <foob> kmenu->system settings->appearance?
[12:09] <gopp> !changethemes
[12:09] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[12:10] <murchadh_bhaba> endo602: At a prompt => echo 'cd /the/path/to/dir ;./executable' >> myfirstscript, then chmod +x myfirstscript
[12:10] <stdin> foob: right click the task bar, go to configure panel, then to taskbar, and uncheck "show windows from all desktops"
[12:11] <endo602> ?
[12:11] <endo602> aha
[12:11] <endo602> ol
[12:11] <sorush20> do I need to reload the fstabs?
[12:12] <foob> thanks
[12:12] <sorush20> I think I managed to fix it
[12:12] <stdin> sorush20: how come you have 2 entry's for hda and hdb?
[12:12] <murchadh_bhaba> endo602: The echo places anything within quotes on a line in the file myfirstscript, the chmod +x makes it executable. Try it!
[12:12] <sorush20> stdin: I got rid of the first two by #
[12:12] <sorush20> It worked now..
[12:12] <endo602> ok
[12:12] <stdin> sorush20: that's was why it wasn't working then :P
[12:13] <sorush20> I have no idea how that go there
[12:13] <vbgunz> fdoving, basket is quite nice
[12:13] <vbgunz> fdoving, thank you!
[12:13] <Oscar__> A question. How come usb-devices aren't mounted with the "sync" option? That would make a lot more sense. Wouldn't you agree?
[12:13] <BTR> Is it possibly to install gnome in kubuntu?
[12:14] <fdoving> vbgunz: you're welcome, i like it too :)
[12:14] <stdin> BTR: yes, just install ubuntu-desktop
[12:14] <Oscar__> BTR: Sure, but that would make it ubuntu.