[12:12] superm1: you around? === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin [n=ubuntu@lns-bzn-31-82-252-247-156.adsl.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-97-229.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.218.165] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] lophyte, i'm here [01:01] lophyte, just got back from new years celebrations [01:04] superm1: hehe, nice.. how was your holidays/ [01:04] very good [01:04] and you? [01:04] pretty good [01:05] so whats up? 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I've just uploaded a new version of my application, GFCEU, to the revu. It sports some new features and critical bug fixes, and I really hope to see it get into fiesty! If you have the chance, please review it! http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3930 [04:16] you'll have better luck later in the week, I suspect [04:18] lukaswayne9, err, is there no use of the new Python policy? [04:18] Alright [04:18] new? Newer since edgy? === dous [n=dous@124.105.152.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:18] lukaswayne9, are you using python-support or python-central? [04:19] Oh damn, I built this on edgy :-\ I've been out of the building scene for a while... [04:19] it should only be a very quick change [04:19] What change? [04:21] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPythonFAQ === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:25] After reading the FAQ, I'm still not clear on what needs to be changed [04:26] well, are you going to use pysupport or pycentral? [04:26] (note you're not build-depending on one) [04:27] pysupport i suppose [04:27] well, you have to do it explicitly (i.e., add it), because neither is implicit [04:27] Alright. WIll I still need to include python-dev? [04:29] you'll want to change that to python-all-dev [04:30] And with the depends... I should change ${python:Depends} to python, python-support ? [04:33] no, that remains [04:33] So where does python-support come into play? Just add it to the depends list? [04:35] you'd b-d on it [04:35] okay [04:35] alright, uploaded again [04:35] thanks a lot [04:36] make sure you added the dh_pysupport invocation prior to dh_python in debian/rules [04:36] http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/python-policy/ap-packaging_tools.html#s-pysupport [04:37] Adri2000: Just so you can stop bothering me, please look at Debian Mentors which do this sort of thing. [04:39] crimsun: okay, reuploaded === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:53] lukaswayne9, in the future, please be careful with debian/changelog [04:53] the two latest entries don't have update timestamps [04:53] updated, even [04:55] lukaswayne9, uploaded. [04:56] rexbron, some misspellings in debian/changelog [04:56] uug [04:56] im owned [04:56] let me re-read it, then kick myself [04:58] crimsun: alright! thank you === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:00] crimsun: fixed to and relevent, any others? === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@unafilliated/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] rexbron, the very first bit is awkward: "Removed rule to related to config.guess" [05:02] crimsun: question, should I just remove all references to that rule, or rephrase [05:03] rexbron: more detail will make it less awkward [05:03] ok [05:03] rexbron: i.e. 'stop deleting config.guess inappropriately' [05:03] or whatever [05:04] ok [05:05] crimsun, lifeless: anything else before I upload? [05:05] now's as good as any [05:09] umm, I am uploading it but forgot to add in the changelog, that I fixed typos (I did not think it warrented it, was I wrong?) [05:09] err, well, that was the point of the upload ;) [05:10] so it is going to show up as ubuntu4 [05:10] that's fine [05:10] ok [05:10] when it's finally uploaded to Ubuntu it'll be -0ubuntu1 [05:10] i see === Kamping_Kaiser doesnt get the naming stuff [05:12] what specifically about the naming scheme? [05:12] Kamping_Kaiser: _-ubuntu [05:13] the bit where ubuntu version gets attached [05:14] baisically, if a ubuntu person makes a change to make it work with ubuntu (or any change for that matter) we up our own version nimber [05:14] *number [05:14] -0ubuntu1 right on the first case [05:14] its suddenly much clearer :\ [05:15] it means that packaging version is not in Debian, but yes, the Ubuntu packaging version is 1 [05:15] what if debian now package it, does ubuntu have the option to keep its version (0ubuntux), or to sync in debians? (1ubuntux) [05:16] a sync is when debian changes match ubuntu chagnes [05:16] otherwise it is a merge [05:16] Kamping_Kaiser, in that case we have a skew, and a decision has to be made whether to "fakesync" (use Debian's packaging infrastructure) or to continue with Ubuntu's [05:17] rexbron: sometimes we talk all the changes, but still cannot sync [05:17] because having changed the version number, dependencies in other packages also changed. [05:17] s/talk/take/ [05:17] ok [05:18] crimsun, i think i see :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-97-229.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.105.152.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jane [n=jane@202.79.37.177] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stgraber [n=stgraber@client80-83-51-125.abo.net2000.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tyme- [n=tyme@128-43.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === daya [n=daya@202.79.37.177] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.105.152.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jozo- [i=jozo@viola.uninea.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:22] opa [06:24] o_0 === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.105.152.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lupine_85 [n=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron_ [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-72-133-223-147.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.105.152.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-157.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.105.152.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:26] zomg [07:26] can someone bring in alpine and alpine-pico from debian?? [07:26] alpine eh === Amaranth needs to do a vala package [07:29] vala? [07:29] it's a new programming language [07:30] well, sort of [07:30] it's like pyrex [07:30] http://vala.paldo.org/ === mayday_jay [n=jason@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron_ [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-065-060.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.105.152.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu__ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-147-182.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.105.152.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.105.152.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:01] we need a "verify these $release-proposed SRU" day === imbrandon_ agrees === Fujitsu also agrees. === Fujitsu attacks this erlang build. === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === macogw [n=mack@c-24-3-144-4.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stgraber [n=stgraber@client80-83-51-125.abo.net2000.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === macogw [n=mack@c-24-3-144-4.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === enyc [n=enyc@1337.whitehorse.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.105.152.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rytmisk [n=irc@81-231-105-125-no27.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.105.152.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-e1b91b55bd80608c] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-131-105.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:41] Hello. [10:45] hello jenda [10:45] hello === jenda has a question, just waiting for someone to pastebin somethnig. [10:47] The/a dev of KDEnlive and MLT has created deb packages, and the question got to me, but I am clueless, as usual... [10:48] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/216/ [10:48] there [10:50] it's unclear what the question(s) is(are). [10:50] is he looking for Web hosting? Source package review? Both? [10:52] I'm not sure really... [10:52] I don't think he knows the process to get them included [10:52] crimsun: more like - what do you do if you want to make your deb package available to Ubuntu users. [10:53] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New and the link(s) in the topic. [10:53] the last link in the topic is most immediately relevant === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-62-176.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.14] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:05] crimsun, fowlduck: ok, thanks. [11:05] np [11:07] yeah, glad to help (although crimsun did all the heavy lifting, as usual) === TMM [n=hp@ip5650d1ab.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin_ [n=ubuntu@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@vc-196-207-32-235.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slytherin [n=root@203.199.147.101] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:31] Can anyone tell me who review packages uploaded to REVU? === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-6b3d7df2bccb7b4d] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:33] slytherin, anyone can [11:33] however, only members of ubuntu-dev have advocate votes that matter [11:33] currently two advocate (positive) votes are required to upload a new source package to the current development version [11:34] crimsun: Thanks. === Lutin__ [n=ubuntu@lns-bzn-32-82-254-23-66.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin__ is now known as Lutin === rytmisk [n=irc@81-231-105-125-no27.tbcn.telia.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-06550bd3c8c9d752] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ailean [n=ailean@82-40-205-105.stb.ubr07.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-253-170.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@dialin104178.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:10] Amaranth, let me know if your alsa issue is still relevant in 2.6.20-3.4 (now available) [12:13] not yet here crimsun we just got the libc6-dev for 2.6.20-3 [12:13] linux-libc-dev i mean [12:13] it's definitely available from archive.uc [12:13] I just rebooted into 2.6.20-3-lowlatency [12:14] i guess im waiting for the meta than -generic hasnt hit archive.ubuntu.com [12:14] in updates atleast [12:18] ah i see it in repos just no restricted-modules for it yet (assuming thats one reason it hasnt been sent to updates yet === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-254-208.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === harrisony1 [n=harrison@r125-63-139-147.cpe.unwired.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slytherin [n=root@203.199.147.101] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === battlesquid [n=anders@cm-84.208.241.068.chello.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:29] I clicked the first link in the topic expecting to find how to actually make a .deb. I'm 6 links further and still not the wiser. [12:30] i'd like to recommend gruler be added to a ubuntu repository, because kruler doesn't work well (with borders!) in gnome [12:30] you missed the Ubuntu Packaging Guide completely. [12:30] ^ finalbeta [12:31] I see, the wiki has some issues. Now that I press back, I did see the kubuntu packaging guide. [12:32] Ok, cewl, thnx. Will try this. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:33] UPG is available from help.ubuntu.com, or if you're using GNOME, System> Help> System Documentation> Contributing to Ubuntu> Maintaining Ubuntu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feb6fb00-217.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === engla [n=ulrik@kr-lun-116-144-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] libavahi-common3 0.6.10-0ubuntu3.3 <- how can you have .3 of an upload? does that just mean "made a slight change"? [12:57] it's the 3rd update to a "stable" package === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:58] Kamping_Kaiser, the versioning scheme is different for updates, as geser mentioned [12:58] so you will get x.x in -updates and -security? [12:58] generally, yes [12:58] thanks both [12:58] and x.x~proposed1 to $release-proposed [12:59] and possibly x.x~$release# for backports [12:59] there is method to the madness [12:59] this gets complex fairly fast. at least its organised madness === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-022-142.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@81.56.214.84] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-5eabe4df6aacf616] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-fc0fde5c2d744b57] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:21] does anyone here use firefox? can you look at the man page in OPTIONS? i think its missing an F... i just want to know its not just my setup. === Kamping_Kaiser muses. #u-bugs was probably a better place for that [01:23] Where in the OPTIONS section? [01:24] A summary of the options supported by irefox is included below. [01:24] Nope, your setup. === dous [n=dous@124.107.251.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:24] I get a nice bolded lowercase `firefox' === Kamping_Kaiser gives firefox a beady look [01:24] might be a fixed-after-dapper bug [01:30] Kamping_Kaiser: security releases [01:31] Lathiat, cheers. wonder why i havent picked it up :/ === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.107.251.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-128-045.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] in a debian/rules file, if i want to echo into another file, do i need to escape all the special charactesr? <>;" [02:00] slomo: two things about liferea on feisty: I don't know what liferea-bin is supposed to do, do you? anyway it segfaults here. also, since I'm on feisty, my liferea is in english instead of french, I tried whith other locales and it doesn't seem to work either [02:03] slomo: hello, can I merge prj2make-sharp? === MehdiHassanpour [i=50bf163b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-6f704657be8d268e] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:04] Hi Motu developers [02:05] I've asked for ttf-freefarsi package to be add in Feisty universe [02:06] It's been added to Debian's unstable === dous [n=dous@124.107.251.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=PriceChi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] hey PriceChild [02:08] Hobbsee: !!!!!! :D [02:09] how're you? [02:09] good [02:09] MehdiHassanpour: doing it [02:09] Hobbsee: Thanks :-) === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:11] gd gd === PriceChild disappears === Lutin_ [n=ubuntu@lns-bzn-32-82-254-23-66.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] i dont see this covered in ubuntus packaging guide (but perhaps i just didnt read the right bit). i'm trying to make a derived package from firefox (just changing a few settings), and i get this error. i renamed the source dir, if thats useful info: [02:14] dpkg-source: warning: source directory `./firefox-1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.8karl0' is not - `firefox-1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.8' [02:14] dpkg-source: warning: .orig directory name firefox-1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.8karl0.orig is not - (wanted firefox-1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.8.orig) === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:16] the .orig.tar.gz has still the old directory name hence the warning [02:16] so i should rename the diff, dsc, orig.tar.gz and the source dir, not just source dir? [02:16] Kamping_Kaiser: but you can ignore it, if it's a warning [02:17] Hobbsee, i prefer not to ignore warnings, they always come back to haunt me :) [02:17] the diff and dsc get the new names automatically once you build a new source package [02:17] thanks. [02:18] the old dir name is inside the orig.tar.gz (use tar tzf to see it) [02:18] Kamping_Kaiser: heh. you can ignore that one though [02:19] Kamping_Kaiser: if you really want to get rid of the warning, you have to unpack the orig.tar.gz, rename the dir and tar it up again [02:19] Hobbsee, :) [02:19] is that ok, with the 'dont mess with orig.tar.gz' rule? [02:20] Kamping_Kaiser: Don't change upstream version, if there is no need to change it. [02:21] hm [02:21] thanks for explaining this btw geser and folk === Lutin_ is now known as Lutin === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas [n=r67894@AGrenoble-257-1-8-133.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:44] Hi ! [02:45] Happy new year to all of you [02:48] geser: sure [02:48] Adri2000: well... it should work ;) [02:52] slomo: liferea-bin or locales? or both? === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:53] Heya gang [02:54] hey mate :) [02:54] Heya Kamping_Kaiser [02:54] :) [02:55] hello bddebian [02:55] Hello Lutin [02:57] slomo: there is no .mo files in the .deb [02:57] bddebian: do you have 5 min to help me with the allegrogl pkg, on revu ? [02:57] Adri2000: it's in the language packs [02:57] Adri2000: once they're updated again... [02:57] ahhhh yes it's in main now [02:57] okay :) [02:58] ademan: and liferea-bin should work normally... well, does "liferea" work for you? ;) [02:58] Adri2000* :p liferea works yes but liferea-bin segfaults [02:58] Adri2000: probably mozilla-madness *shrug* ;) [03:06] bddebian: actually I don't konw what to do whith the lib .... lintian says it's a sharedlib, but i provides no .so.x.x, has no soversion ... would be great if you had a clue :) [03:07] Yeah, it would be :) === giskard [n=giskard@62-101-126-218.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:09] lol [03:10] ciao [03:13] Heya giskard [03:14] Lutin: Actually, I believe the -dev package should have .so.X.X [03:15] bddebian: that means I'd have to patch the makefile to actually generate it ? [03:17] Give me a sec [03:17] What the heck is the objdump parameter to get the SONAME? [03:21] -p or -x [03:21] Hmm, I didn't know -x did SONAME. Thx geser [03:22] -x includes -p [03:22] Ahh === bddebian bows to geser 's greatness :) [03:23] Lutin: I wonder if that lib has issues. I believe libs should have an SONAME [03:24] bddebian: what should I do then ? [03:27] Lutin: what gives "objdump -p libagl.so | grep SONAME"? [03:28] geser: give me 5 min, I have to build it on this pc :) === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:31] geser: Nothing [03:32] the point is, as it's intended to be a plugin to allegro, it's not build like a sharedlib i guess [03:33] Well it's building libagl.so [03:39] so, I should ask upstream to modify the autofoo stuff to provide soname and lib.so.x.x, (or do it myself) ? === apokryphos [n=francis@84.13.229.243] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] Upstream would probably be preferred. But I may be wrong about this. I'm certainly no library expert.. [03:41] Lutin: if it's a plugin, does it get installed into /usr/lib/allegro or something? [03:42] Yes, /usr/lib/libagl.so [03:42] so, no :) [03:43] So no, what? [03:43] if it's a plugin, it has no business getting put into /usr/lib [03:43] Oh. heh sorry [03:43] it should get put into a subdirectory where allegro can find it [03:43] and plugins don't count as libraries, so no soname issues [03:43] Ah, OK, thx [03:47] azeem: ok [03:47] azeem: and still should be updated to have a soname and such ? [03:47] Lutin: So, just stick it in /usr/lib/allegro/libagl.so or so and make sure allegro can find it :-) [03:48] bddebian: ok [03:48] Lutin: No, not for a plug-in apparently [03:48] bddebian: some software rely on that plugin, such as the ta3d game, so I wonder if it's only a plugin [03:48] Lutin: no, check out other allegro plugins for package naming conventions, if any [03:49] something like allegro-plugin-ag or whatever would be more suiteable in this case I guess [03:49] Lutin: how does ta3d rely on it? [03:49] check whether objdump -x ta3d |grep NEEDED lists it [03:50] azeem: ok [03:50] azeem: if it does, what does that means ? === hub [n=hub@moodiegate.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:51] Lutin: then it would mean libag1 is a true library and not a plugin [03:52] Is there any problem with REVU ? [03:52] my upload appears to be stuck in the FTP [03:53] Here is where the allegro arts plugin puts it: [03:53] usr/lib/allegro/4.2/alleg-artsdigi.so === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:55] bddebian: ok, thanks === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:02] azeem: currently building ta3d, I'll check the objdump thing asap === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jorgp [n=jorgp@adsl-70-234-108-24.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-130-254.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:07] azeem: NEEDED libagl.so [04:08] seems that it's a true librairy [04:10] Ack === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] so I have to ask to upstream to provide the lib.so.x.x and a soname/soversion [04:19] is there a mplayer 1.0rc1+ planned for multiverse? === esaym [n=esaym@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.173.92] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pirast [n=martin@p508B1FC5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:58] bddebian: did you see the liballegro4.2 source package ? all fixed by the debian maintainer. seems the upstream is not wanting to use libtool ^^ [04:59] joy === Cashel [n=doc@70-57-122-174.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.107.251.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@moodiegate.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:07] Can anyone check why uploads got stuck on the FTP and doesn't appear on REVU ? === truz_`24 [n=truz_`24@74-129-166-232.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === martin__ [n=martin@p508B00F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:17] How do I best do docbook2man in a CDBS package? === PriceChild [n=PriceChi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:23] bddebian: I don't understand what exactly means those linda warnings on kayali :/ [05:24] Lutin: Me either [05:26] bddebian: lol [05:26] I can't get what's wrong with having a 775 chmod on a script [05:27] err. 755 [05:29] it's missing a she-bang === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Philosophise] [05:32] heya everybody [05:32] happy new year === dous [n=dous@124.107.251.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:34] Heya Toadstoo1, to you also [05:35] geser: Hey, do you know how I can get a docbook to a manpage in a CDBS package? [05:36] bddebian: no [05:36] have you tried to use one of the several cdbs hooks? [05:37] why the heck was my nick Toadstoo1? :p [05:37] I hate nickserv ^^ [05:38] bddebian: can I "merge" msttcorefonts? ("" because it's really an easy merge :p, updated merge) [05:41] geser: Yeah, I found it, thanks [05:42] Adri2000: Go for it, thanks [05:42] ok, I will need someone for uploading, and that's the bigger part of the job for this merge :P [05:43] but first, pbuilding... === Lutin__ [n=ubuntu@lns-bzn-32-82-254-23-66.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin__ is now known as Lutin [05:56] -> http://adrishost.homeip.net/~adri2000/ubuntu/toupload/msttcorefonts_1.6ubuntu1.debdiff (from 1.6), I hope my changelog is ok... === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-147-182.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.107.251.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ingar [n=saltvik@ti500720a080-9468.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:18] does anyone know what that linda warning acutally means ? [06:18] W: kayali; Executable /usr/share/kayali/MaximaParserTokenTypes.txt with perms 0755 is not an ELF file or script. [06:19] err. .py, not.txt === geser [n=michael@leary.ping.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:22] Lutin: It's telling you that you have executable "rights" on a non-script or ELF file [06:23] bddebian: ok === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@81.56.214.84] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:27] Lutin: which in this particular case means that you should either change the rights on this file or add a shebang if it is supposed to be executed [06:27] Toadstool: hay ! [06:28] hi Lutin [06:28] (thanks a lot) how are you ? [06:28] good, how are you? [06:29] fine, thanks :) === dous [n=dous@124.107.251.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:30] hi there [06:30] Toadstool: hi ! [06:31] heya Sp4rKy === geser [n=michael@leary.ping.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:35] alright, time to show my newbiness [06:35] how do i do this revu thing? :) === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar_ is now known as jaldhar === xerxas [n=xerxas@mut38-5-82-246-190-19.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rasman [n=rasmusse@rrcs-67-52-254-234.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:45] Amaranth: Upload or reviewing? [06:45] upload [06:46] dput revu foo*.changes :-) [06:46] starting from scratch, i've never used it in any form [06:46] kAmaranth: Watcha doin'? [06:46] Ahh [06:46] somerville32: vala [06:46] http://vala.pardo.org [06:46] Is it a programming language, kAmaranth? [06:46] yeah [06:46] and stop that :P [06:47] What do you mean kAmaranth? :) [06:47] is it a kde programm? === Amaranth smacks somerville32 [06:47] geser: nope [06:48] Should be [06:48] more GNOME related, it's a programming language that leans on glib (specifically gobject) to convert a C#-like syntax into C then compile it [06:49] Interesting [06:49] very [06:51] ugh, pbuilder is so slow [06:51] just realized i never updated it for feisty [06:52] Amaranth: I have a 333mhz [06:53] oh, it's http://vala.paldo.org btw [06:53] typos ftw === giskard [n=giskard@62-101-126-218.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:00] Do I have to do something special when I have an xml docbook file to create the manpage? === apokryphos [n=francis@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:05] bddebian: could you upload the msttcorefonts merge please? http://adrishost.homeip.net/~adri2000/ubuntu/toupload/msttcorefonts_1.6ubuntu1.debdiff [07:05] has anybody heard anything about ubuntu abandoning the powerpc port? [07:07] bddebian: docbook2man? [07:08] Aye, I'm using that. Well docbook-to-man. I'm not sure of the difference between docbook2man and docbook-to-man [07:08] But I get: [07:08] W: pegsolitaire; Manual page /usr/share/man/man1/pegsolitaire.1.gz failed to run through lexgrog. [07:14] How do I keep cdbs from installing files I don't want it to install? Do I have add an install/package:: target and rm the files manually? === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:21] bddebian: .la files? [07:22] Q-FUNK: ?/ === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121g89.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:37] Adri2000: Uploaded [07:39] thanks === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@moodiegate.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:57] No, THANK YOU :) === giskard [n=giskard@adsl-82-176.38-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@moodiegate.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === giskard_ [n=giskard@81-208-74-176.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zorglu_ [n=zorglub@219.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@206.174.196.147] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:57] hi MOTU Land [09:00] hey LaserJock [09:00] hi zul_ === Cimi [n=Cimi@host191-176-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:01] Heya LaserJock [09:02] bddebian! === ubuntu_demon [n=ubuntu_d@ubuntu/member/ubuntudemon/-x-12083] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.205] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:11] bddebian: didn't you apply for ubuntu-core-dev? [09:11] bddebian: TB Meeting going on right now [09:12] oh, it is? [09:13] right now, yes [09:13] am I the only one unable to upgrade feisty pbuilder because of vim? [09:14] Setting up vim-tiny (7.0-164+1ubuntu1) ... [09:14] update-alternatives: unable to make /usr/share/man/ru.KOI8-R/man1/vi.1.gz.dpkg-tmp a symlink to /etc/alternatives/vi.ru.KOI8-R.1.gz: No such file or directory [09:14] dpkg: error processing vim-tiny (--configure): [09:14] subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 [09:14] pbuilder update fails with that [09:16] siretart: A long time ago. I gave up. They don't want me :-) [09:19] bddebian: eh! === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@81.56.214.84] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK [n=kitterma@static-72-81-252-22.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === TheGods [n=bip@unaffiliated/tsmithe] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:41] howdy [09:41] hi [09:42] hi [09:42] does anyone here know anything about cinelerra? [09:43] when I use this line in debian/rules, the build fails. does anyone see what's wrong ? [09:43] TheGods: not much. it's currently being worked on by the Ubuntu Studio folks [09:43] for file in `find -name "*.py"`; do [ -n "`head -n 1 $file | grep #!`" ] && chmod 755 $file; done [09:44] LaserJock, i am one of those folks ;) [09:44] ah Toby [09:44] there's a problem with ffmpeg licencing that the cinelerra people include in their sources [09:44] indeed [09:44] i just wanted to find out the details such that i could post to their mailing list [09:44] what's wrong with it? === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:45] Lutin: have you tested this line with dash or bash only? [09:45] LaserJock, i'm not sure - that's why i'm asking ;) [09:46] TheGods: well, I'm not really sure what the question is though [09:46] oh of course! [09:46] TheGods: siretart can tell you a lot about ffmpeg right now ;-) [09:46] ok [09:46] thanks [09:48] this is some of what i posted in #cinelerra: "Cinelerra uses a version of ffmpeg where free distribution is limited (perhaps only in the US, perhaps not). However, as a result, we cannot have the software in the Ubuntu repositories, which means we cannot include it in our release. This isn't what we'd like to be the case, and I would love to see this change." [09:48] that's what i've been told, at least [09:48] TheGods: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionFFmpeg [09:48] geser: yes, seems to work with bash [09:48] siretart, thanks muchly [09:49] Lutin: test also with dash as dash is /bin/sh [09:49] TheGods: so cinelerra ships it's own copy of ffmpeg? [09:49] yes [09:49] and it's different then our ffmpeg? [09:49] *sigh* - another one :/ [09:50] that's what i hear. and although it's (l)gpl, i've heard it's not freely distributable in the usa [09:50] the license is indeed not the problem [09:50] yes, indeed [09:51] TheGods: does cinerella modify ffmpeg in any way? [09:52] TheGods: I sure don't envy you guys. Multimedia is awful to work with [09:52] thanks :P [09:53] siretart, i'll have to ask [09:53] geser: ok with dash as well [09:54] oh no, weird [09:54] exit code is 1 [09:54] TheGods: if they don't please make the package build against the ubuntu ffmpeg package. this way, we share bugs and security issues [09:54] that's what i'm asking [09:54] apparently their build system is horrendous :( [09:57] geser: ok, I know why it fails [09:57]