[12:01] <bobbyd> pike_: yes, like I said, I think something is broken :(
[12:01] <MuffY> cmon mwe , play with me
[12:01] <crimsun> adam_, what's the issue with that? (You'll have to switch it to the onboard in the sound selector first)
[12:01] <mwe> MuffY: heh
[12:01] <Tann> _Snatch_: i don't have it
[12:01] <GoodSoft> I can't install Canon MP160 on Ubuntu
[12:01] <MuffY> it's simple
[12:01] <mwe> pong?
[12:01] <hjmills> Slart: as long as it has width and height in im happy basically
[12:01] <MuffY> |    .
[12:01] <MuffY> . |
[12:01] <MuffY> etc etc
[12:01] <mwe> |   .
[12:02] <MuffY>                      .           |
[12:02] <pike_> bobbyd: mind pasting your sources.list ?
[12:02] <arrenlex> MuffY: How about playing that in a private message instead?
[12:02] <mwe> lol
[12:02] <mnoir> sharp15: you trying anything fancy?
[12:02] <pike_> !paste | bobbyd
[12:02] <ubotu> bobbyd: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:02] <LinTux> thanks everybody, sorted now
[12:02] <MuffY> sorry arrenlex
[12:02] <sharp15> mnoir: except they were working fine yesterday and i haven't changed anything.
[12:02] <MuffY> i've done to much today, i'm a bit in a strange mood
[12:02] <MuffY> too much**
[12:03] <sharp15> mnoir: nothing fancy.  sshd is allowing a user with a local account to login remotely, proftpd is sharing a couple of files, both only for my home network.
[12:03] <_Snatch_> Tann: use gtkwifi
[12:03] <mwe> MuffY: after you showed me that game I won't need quake4 or something like that anymore ;)
[12:03] <AidanL> It would appear that I have failed again with Ubuntu:( Damn Wireless.
[12:03] <mnoir> sharp15: i dunno then.  the fact that both are screwing up is a clue
[12:03] <cge> I'm trying to transfer some large files from an Ubuntu server to an Ubuntu laptop connected with 100Mb ethernet. For some reason, the maximum transfer rate I'm getting is around 1 MiB/s. Is there some way I can speed this up? I'm having trouble locating the bottleneck, but it seems like it is on the receiving end.
[12:03] <pike_> AidanL: ?
[12:04] <jasin> http://gtkwifi.sourceforge.net/
[12:04] <jasin> http://gtkwifi.sourceforge.net/
[12:04] <mnoir> sharp15: i am having problems coming up with the common thing
[12:04] <AidanL> Pike: I can't get my wireless working. I had trouble with my last wireless adaptor and my new one still won't work with it lol.
[12:04] <pike_> AidanL: not a usb adaptor right?
[12:04] <mwe> MuffY: actually the solitaire games beat the windows ones
[12:04] <AidanL> It is a USB adaptor.
[12:04] <jasin> !wifi
[12:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:04] <hjmills> Slart: I think compare -size would work but i cant get it to work on the whole fir
[12:05] <MuffY> GNOME Robots is a game where you try and avoid a band of marauding robots which are, for no adequately explained reason, trying to kill you.<< omg, i'm going to play this for hours
[12:05] <_Snatch_> AidanL: guess youre having the same problm as Tann
[12:05] <Tann> _Snatch_: i don't have gtkwifi either
[12:05] <hjmills> s/fir/dir
[12:05] <sharp15> mnoir: i'll try removing xinetd from the runlevel and rebooting.  that's the last thing i changed.
[12:05] <jasin> !wifi | AidanL
[12:05] <ubotu> AidanL: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:05] <mwe> MuffY: good luck
[12:05] <MuffY> ty mwe
[12:05] <mnoir> sharp15: pls let me know
[12:05] <cge> MuffY: Enjoy it now, as it is quite possible that it will be removed from gnome-games in the near future.
[12:05] <_Snatch_> install it using a package manager
[12:05] <AidanL> Ill take a look.
[12:05] <sharp15> mnoir: will do.
[12:05] <MuffY> do you also have a spare laser gun or something?
[12:06] <jasin> supertux was removed :(
[12:06] <Tann> ok
[12:06] <adam_> crimsun... ok, here we go. ICH5 on alsa mixer. p5p800 asus motherboard. Analog devices ad1985 on oss mixer. Have changed to alsa. In the tests I don't here anything. I have done this before but can't any longer.
[12:06] <cge> MuffY: No. You have nothing except a teleporter. You have to get the robots to run into each other.
[12:06] <_Snatch_> AidanL: was your wireless usb adaptor by Belkin??
[12:06] <Q_Continuum> Any wiki page on which identifying the proper kernel to install?  (Have an AMD-64 FX-60 - dual core, so need SMP)
[12:06] <crimsun> adam_, pastebin your ``amixer''
[12:07] <arrenlex> Q_Continuum: The -generic kernel is all you need.
[12:07] <AidanL> Yes it was. - SNATCH
[12:07] <mwe> !info supertux
[12:07] <ubotu> supertux: Classic 2D jump 'n run sidescroller with Tux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.3-1.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 228 kB, installed size 548 kB
[12:07] <_Snatch_> Tann: so can you open gtkwifi
[12:07] <Q_Continuum> arrenlex, no benefit to running any other, for a desktop?
[12:07] <cntb> games ? check billardGL
[12:07] <MuffY> cge: i read that in the description, but a laser gun could come in handy
[12:07] <mwe> jasin: appearently supertux is still around ^^
[12:07] <Q_Continuum> or does it auto-detect now?
[12:07] <MuffY> so if anyone has one collecting dust in the basement...
[12:07] <adam_> sorry crimsun, not with ya there....
[12:07] <arrenlex> Q_Continuum: Not really. There's more information about pros\cons here:
[12:07] <arrenlex> !generic | Q_Continuum
[12:07] <ubotu> Q_Continuum: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[12:08] <Q_Continuum> thanks
[12:08] <jasin> mwe, yes, its installable via apt-get
[12:08] <cge> MuffY: There are variants of the robots game, like torus on the sdf server, that allow you to blow up robots.
[12:08] <AidanL> snatch: Does that make a huge difference if my adaptor is made by Belkin?
[12:08] <hjmills> Slart: don't worry - i did it the manual way with nautilus...
[12:08] <jasin> apt-get install supertux
[12:08] <Slart> hjmills, identify works better
[12:08] <mwe> jasin: but you said it was removed ?
[12:08] <_Snatch_> AidanL: my belkin  usb adapter works fine
[12:08] <Tann> _Snatch_: not there
[12:08] <mwe> jasin: you mean from your computer ?
[12:08] <Slart> hjmills: hehe.. ok :)
[12:08] <cge> Does anyone know of a quick benchmark for writing speed and for network throughput?
[12:08] <AidanL> I see.... How is yours configured?.
[12:08] <cntb> where in kUbuntu can I tune current color depth ?
[12:09] <fiendskull9> hey!
[12:09] <jasin> mwe, it is, it was removed from kde games or gnomes games, forget which one
[12:09] <fiendskull9> anyone familiar with the quota and edquota commands?
[12:09] <_Snatch_> AidanL: i use kUbuntu
[12:09] <AidanL> Ooo I see.
[12:09] <Tann> _Snatch_: not there
[12:09] <pike_> !kubuntu
[12:09] <AidanL> Is itj ust plug 'n' play on there?
[12:09] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[12:09] <_Snatch_> the wireless assistant is diferent
[12:09] <mwe> jasin: I see. I think I just did sudo aptitude install supertux
[12:09] <_Snatch_> AidanL: mostly
[12:09] <crimsun> adam_, paste the output from ``amixer'' onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and tell me the URL
[12:09] <Tann> What should i do?
[12:09] <lumaQQ> can anyone tell me how to make a partition ?  i cant seem to do it ////
[12:09] <AidanL> I see...
[12:09] <kyncani> cge: for dsl, google for dsl bandwidth
[12:10] <Tann> _Snatch_: What should i do?
[12:10] <_Snatch_> Tann: I DONT KNOW!!
[12:10] <Tann> _Snatch_: ok
[12:10] <pike_> lumaQQ: resize existing or just delete/create new partitions?
[12:10] <mwe> lumaQQ: sudo cfdisk
[12:10] <danny> guys what is the best way to install mplayer
[12:10] <_Snatch_> can u open gtkwifi
[12:10] <danny> in ubuntu ?
[12:10] <_Snatch_> ??
[12:10] <ComputinChuck> i have a little video capture box that hooks up to my computer via firewire, how can i get something like VLC or mplayer to play the stream?
[12:10] <noiesmo> !mplayer | danny
[12:10] <ubotu> danny: mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[12:10] <ubotu> danny: For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[12:10] <lumaQQ> create ~~~~~
[12:10] <cntb> where in kUbuntu can I tune current color depth ?
[12:10] <AidanL> I am going to leave it for a bit. Kinda getting a bit annoying after 2 days of constant research lol. C ya'll
[12:10] <mwe> lumaQQ: sudo cfdisk
[12:10] <_Snatch_> Tann can u open gtkwifi
[12:11] <jasin> mwe, its on http://supertux.info/ too
[12:11] <jasin> hehe
[12:11] <mwe> I see
[12:11] <Tann> no
[12:11] <pike_> lumaQQ: what mwe said.  'sudo cfdisk' or 'sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb' and whatnot
[12:11] <Tann> i dont have that
[12:11] <adam_> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/175/
[12:11] <lumaQQ> ok  how to i create in this?
[12:11] <lumaQQ> ???
[12:11] <lumaQQ> there is no create option
[12:11] <mwe> lumaQQ: it's says on the interface
[12:12] <mwe> lumaQQ: you need to delete something or highlight free space
[12:12] <lumaQQ> nope  there is no create option at all MWE
[12:12] <mwe> lumaQQ: you need to delete something or highlight free space
[12:13] <mwe> lumaQQ: use the arrow keys to highlight your free space. then it will be available
[12:13] <coreymon77> guys, can you please help Tann out, i dont want him to use ndiswrapper if he doesnt need to but i dont know anything about ubuntu
[12:13] <crimsun> adam_, amixer set 'IEC958' off
[12:13] <_Snatch_> have you downloaded it??
[12:13] <pike_> lumaQQ: remember anything you do will not take affect until you select 'write' so make the changes then write then quit
[12:13] <kupesoft> So what's the good mid-upper laptop that has good to great ubuntu support to get?
[12:13] <lumaQQ> ok
[12:13] <jasin> mwe, have fun :p
[12:13] <_Snatch_> Tann: have you downloaded it??
[12:13] <mwe> jasin: you too
[12:13] <lajene> how do i change from kde to gnome?
[12:14] <lumaQQ> is there anyway i can just select CREATE and make a new one.. i just want to test another distro out to see if its good.. ~
[12:14] <mwe> lajene: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop then choose gnome at the login screen
[12:14] <Tann> _Snatch_: download from where
[12:14] <coreymon77> apt
[12:14] <cntb> sudo apt-get install planetpenguin-racer
[12:14] <pike_> kupesoft: i like the some of the asus laptops pretty well.  id say get one w/nvidia graphics or intel not ati
[12:14] <_Snatch_> a package manager
[12:14] <kupesoft> Why not ATI?
[12:14] <mwe> lumaQQ: please elaborate
[12:14] <kupesoft> pike_: Poor driver support?
[12:15] <pike_> kupesoft:yep
[12:15] <adam_> should I turn that off, or what do you mean? Sorry... bit quick for me
[12:15] <Slart> hjmills: for future references =)   for i in $(ls);do identify -format "%i %w %h" $i;done   will give you a list of filename, width, height   see http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#format for format options
[12:15] <jasin> Mother thinks Tux is cute :)
[12:15] <Innomen> Tann: keep in mind these people are strange, sometimes when they say "download" they basicly mean "install from the CD by typing this command"
[12:15] <lumaQQ> mwe  wel i want to make a small partition  but it seems that this sudo cfdisk dont ofer me anything to CREATE a partition....   i have loads of free space but no option...
[12:15] <lumaQQ> its there no simpler way to do it?
[12:15] <Slart> hjmills: I've only tested it in bash.. I have no idea how other shells interpret that..
[12:16] <_Snatch_> Innomen: shutup
[12:16] <jasin> ati works on linux just not as well as nvidia
[12:16] <noiesmo> !qparted
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <lhkjhkjh> hello
[12:16] <Innomen> _Snatch_: am i wrong? :P
[12:16] <mwe> lumaQQ: if you hightlight the free space, new will be available
[12:16] <lhkjhkjh> i need some helpwith ubuntu please
[12:16] <jasin> !ati
[12:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:16] <Innomen> !ask
[12:16] <lhkjhkjh> would anyone please help me
[12:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:16] <_Snatch_> im not weird
[12:16] <mwe> lumaQQ: use the up and down keys to highlight it
[12:16] <MuffY> mmm partitions
[12:16] <lhkjhkjh> oh thanks ubotu
[12:16] <Innomen> _Snatch_: lol
[12:16] <xtknight> nobody will help you unless you ask a question :P
[12:16] <lhkjhkjh> i downloaded the cd from the web site
[12:16] <lhkjhkjh> and burned into iso
[12:16] <lhkjhkjh> and then i tried to install it
[12:17] <lhkjhkjh> but when i boot from cd and
[12:17] <cntb> lhkjhkjh: this aint no serious nick
[12:17] <jasin> ubotu is a bot
[12:17] <lhkjhkjh> durning the process
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <_Snatch_> xDDDDDDDDD
[12:17] <MuffY> lumaQQ: are you using gparted right now?
[12:17] <cntb> chg nick /nick tatata
[12:17] <Innomen> jasin: he dosent have to thank me, i just know when to type "!ask"
[12:17] <lhkjhkjh> and then i get this
[12:17] <lumaQQ> mwe  have two options  one is the ubuntu one  and the other is.....hda5 with like a few megs of space..
[12:17] <noiesmo> lumaQQ, have you got spare partition or just free space in a partition
[12:17] <Slart> !enter | lhkjhkjh
[12:17] <mwe> jasin: a stupid one too ;)
[12:17] <ubotu> lhkjhkjh: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:17] <lhkjhkjh> soft lock up
[12:17] <jasin> lol
[12:17] <lumaQQ> no option for anything else
[12:17] <jasin> mwe, yeah
[12:17] <pike_> ubotu: no you are a bot
[12:17] <lhkjhkjh> i get this error code soft cpu lock up #0
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about no you are a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <_Snatch_> ubotu is a bot
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <_Snatch_> HAHAHAHAHA
[12:17] <lhkjhkjh> soft lock up cpu#0
[12:17] <_Snatch_> ubotu is a bot
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <queequeg> I used to use TortoiseSVN on windows for my SVN client, but haven't found a good one for when I'm using ubuntu (so far I don't like rapidsvn or kdesvn)  anyone know of any other options?
[12:18] <Slart> lhkjhkjh: you downloaded the normal install CD? the one with a live CD on it too. right?
[12:18] <lhkjhkjh> can anyone please help me with it
[12:18] <Innomen> so anywho
[12:18] <noiesmo> !gparted | lumaQQ
[12:18] <ubotu> lumaQQ: gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[12:18] <lhkjhkjh> i downloaded the one from the website
[12:18] <_Snatch_> ubotu is a bot
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <_Snatch_> ubotu is a bot
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <_Snatch_> ubotu is a bot
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <mwe> lumaQQ: you need to move the highlight to the free space with the up and down keys. I suppose the free space is at least listed in cfdisk, right ?
[12:18] <_Snatch_> xDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[12:18] <pista> ubotu point of life
[12:18] <lhkjhkjh> hey slart
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about point of life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <cntb> where in kUbuntu can I tune current color depth ?
[12:18] <lhkjhkjh> slart please help me T.T
[12:18] <lhkjhkjh> i downloaded the one from ubuntu.com
[12:18] <lumaQQ> MWE  i told you before   there is no FREE space on there.   i dont kno where it is...
[12:18] <Pan7h3r> lmao _Snatch_
[12:18] <Slart> lhkjhkjh: ok, I haven't seen that particular error before but there is an alternat install cd that perhaps works better
[12:18] <pike_> they made a decision (probably correct) that anyone shouldnt be able to train him so hes not too bright
[12:19] <lhkjhkjh> where do i download the cd?
[12:19] <Innomen> how do i start up the gonme network manager, how do i connect the applet or whatever to the task bar, how do i make it go? :P
[12:19] <lhkjhkjh> i downloaded the cd from the ubuntu.com
[12:19] <mwe> lumaQQ: then you need to delete something first or it's broken
[12:19] <lhkjhkjh> and it gets me this ERROR: SOFT L
[12:19] <Slart> lhkjhkjh: I don't have the url.. but it's on the offical ubuntu site
[12:19] <lumaQQ> :(
[12:19] <lhkjhkjh> SOFT LOCK UP CPU#0
[12:19] <Slart> !alternate
[12:19] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[12:19] <mwe> lumaQQ: cfdisk usually does a decent job seeing free space and stuff
[12:19] <lhkjhkjh> aternate cd?
[12:19] <cntb> where in kUbuntu can I tune current color depth ?
[12:19] <lhkjhkjh> so u want me to download alternate cd?
[12:19] <lumaQQ> MWE then i dont know ..... there is just nothing on there....
[12:19] <adam_> crimsun: the biggest problem I'm having is really understanding what all the different things do on my card. there seems to be way too many options for a card with three connections....
[12:19] <cntb> !alternate
[12:19] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[12:19] <_Snatch_> ubotu is a bot
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <Slart> lhkjhkjh: mm.. as I said.. I don't what that that error means.. but you could try the alternate install cd... it solves problems for a lot of people
[12:20] <lhkjhkjh> alternate install cd?
[12:20] <Innomen> _Snatch_: thats getting old man
[12:20] <hjmills> Slart: wow! thanks so much
[12:20] <mwe> lumaQQ: weird. try deleting something then create a partition. it wont write the changes until you press W
[12:20] <lhkjhkjh> hey slart
[12:20] <mwe> lumaQQ: capital W that is
[12:20] <lumaQQ> ok
[12:20] <lhkjhkjh> so if i download the alternate cd
[12:20] <cntb> _Snatch_: why ???
[12:20] <adam_> crimsun: i set it to off... didn't seem to do much though.
[12:20] <lhkjhkjh> would it gonna able me to install berly and xgl?
[12:20] <lumaQQ> hang on im DL gparted   right now...
[12:20] <cntb> where in kUbuntu can I tune current color depth ?
[12:20] <lumaQQ> see if this works
[12:21] <Slart> lhkjhkjh: then perhaps it works.. perhaps...can't promise anything
[12:21] <mwe> cntb: xorg.conf
[12:21] <lumaQQ> cntb try #kubuntu dude...
[12:21] <lhkjhkjh> but
[12:21] <lhkjhkjh> i use
[12:21] <crimsun> adam_, ok, now: amixer set 'Headphone Jack Sense' off
[12:21] <lhkjhkjh> intel 3945 wireless
[12:21] <stephans> does anyone know why Xorg ignores the modelines in xorg.cong
[12:21] <bruenig> lhkjhkjh, beryl and xgl have nothing to do with how you install it
[12:21] <mwe> cntb: it's not kubuntu specific
[12:21] <stephans>  Modes      "1920x1200" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[12:21] <bruenig> lhkjhkjh, those are post-install add ons
[12:21] <jasin> !color depth
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about color depth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <jasin> !colordepth
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about colordepth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <checkmate> can anyone recommend a good RTS for ubuntu
[12:21] <bruenig> !fishing | jasin
[12:21] <ubotu> jasin: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:21] <stephans> it chooses 1280
[12:21] <jasin> that bot is stupid
[12:22] <lhkjhkjh> how do i download the alternate cd?
[12:22] <der0b> Heya folks, is there any place I can read about proposed updates to ubuntu.  I'd really like to know when we'll see the latest security updates for firefox posted to the repos and I'd like to know why a security update is taking so long.
[12:22] <cntb> tyvm all
[12:22] <lhkjhkjh> !ask soft lock up
[12:22] <bruenig> lhkjhkjh, go to ubuntu.com
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask soft lock up - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <stephans> I know that my screen 1080p
[12:22] <jasin> !bot
[12:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:22] <stephans> its a tc
[12:22] <stephans> tv
[12:22] <lhkjhkjh> !softlockup
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about softlockup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <lhkjhkjh> !3945
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3945 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <bruenig> !fishing | lhkjhkjh
[12:22] <ubotu> lhkjhkjh: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:22] <lhkjhkjh> !stupidbot
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stupidbot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <jasin> lol
[12:22] <Slart> lhkjhkjh: here's one link.. http://ftp.ds.karen.hj.se/pub/os/linux/ubuntu-iso/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[12:22] <funkja> lhkjhkjh: on the same page you downloaded the cd the first time - there is an alternate cd download
[12:22] <adam_> now I have sound... how about that! I thought that option told the card to guess weather I had phones in or not.... wrong?
[12:23] <lhkjhkjh> thank you slart
[12:23] <lhkjhkjh> waht's the different betwwen them?
[12:23] <lhkjhkjh> just normal cd and alternate cd?
[12:23] <Slart> lhkjhkjh: there are probably faster mirrors closer to you.. but then you'll have to check the site yourself... this one is in sweden
[12:23] <cntb> and chill lhkjhkjh and chg nick
[12:23] <Slart> lhkjhkjh: only difference is that this one is text-based.. no live cd.. and it mostly works ;)
[12:23] <zcherus> can someone help me out with configuring proftpd for site-to-site transfer on ubuntu edgy
[12:23] <adam_> crimsun: when I try to open up.wav I get a long error message saying it can't find my omega now.... in the gui everything looks fine... and I can here things....
[12:23] <bruenig> I would just get  the torrent
[12:24] <lhkjhkjh> nick softlockup
[12:24] <jasin> edit the xorg.conf file
[12:24] <lhkjhkjh> nickname softlock up
[12:24] <bike42> Looking for help with sound juicer
[12:24] <Slart> lhkjhkjh: as I said.. I can't guarantee this will fix your problem.. but it's worth a try
[12:24] <bruenig> lhkjhkjh, what are you trying to do?
[12:24] <jasin> edit the xorg.conf file, set the color depth there
[12:24] <jasin> http://www.ubuntux.org/reset-xwindows-color-depth
[12:24] <lhkjhkjh> trying to change the nick name
[12:24] <crimsun> adam_, what was the output from asoundconf list?
[12:24] <bruenig> lhkjhkjh, /nick newnickname
[12:24] <elbeto> Hi guys, I have a big problem. My ubuntu doesn't start after login in, I need help.
[12:25] <jasin> you probably dont have pico so use kwrite instead
[12:25] <adam_> ICH5, UART
[12:25] <ikonia> if you use gnome to mount a samba share - where is the actual file system mounted, there is nothing in /media
[12:25] <funkja> what happelsn elbeto
[12:25] <pike_> elbeto: what does it do?
[12:25] <ikonia> just a shortcut on the desktop
[12:25] <Slart> elbeto: newest ubuntu? try disabling external USB-thingies.. see if that makes it work
[12:25] <arrenlex> jasin: pico == nano, and everyone has it. It's part of ubuntu.
[12:25] <elbeto> nothing, is a blank screen
[12:25] <drivingmenuts> hey slart
[12:25] <drivingmenuts> there is website about the
[12:25] <danny> !mplayer
[12:25] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[12:25] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[12:25] <drivingmenuts> soft lock up cpu#0
[12:26] <elbeto> It was working fine but when I reboot I couldn't get ubutu to work
[12:26] <bike42> When I go to extract using Sound Juicer I get a file not found error
[12:26] <drivingmenuts> it's related to switch kill for wireless
[12:26] <Innomen> can someone please post a screen cap chain somewhere showing me where to click to get gnome to start?
[12:26] <Slart> drivingmenuts: ok.. but just write it all on one line.. I get dizzy trying to put your sentences together =)
[12:26] <drivingmenuts> not sure how to install ubuntu
[12:26] <drivingmenuts> ok
[12:26] <elbeto> I tried to reconfigure the xserver-xorg but it dind't help
[12:26] <Slart> drivingmenuts: do you have the url?
[12:26] <drivingmenuts> when i install the cd and boot from it i get this soft kill switch off shit like that and it says soft lockup
[12:26] <elbeto> didn't
[12:26] <funkja> drivingmenuts: we told you to try the alternate cd
[12:26] <pike_> elbeto: the login screen comes up but when you login it freezes?
[12:26] <drivingmenuts> yes im downloading from the link u gave me
[12:27] <VerdRousseau> Alright so after having troubel getting network manager to work I decided to go back to gtkwifi, I installed it but dont know where that icon is on the desktop...
[12:27] <elbeto> it doesn't freeze it's just a blank screen
[12:27] <hjmills> how do i grep for .jpg or .gif or .png files?
[12:27] <bruenig> hjmills, ls | grep *.jpg
[12:27] <Slart> hjmills: ls | grep \.jpg   perhaps?
[12:28] <bruenig> or without the *
[12:28] <drivingmenuts> so what's the different betwwen ubuntu alternate cd?
[12:28] <bruenig> just ls | grep .jpg
[12:28] <hassan2a> join #ubuntu-fr
[12:28] <xtknight> a recursive grep would be `grep -R ./* *.jpg`   i think
[12:28] <pike_> elbeto: well you could try ahh.. alt-ctrl-f2 then login then type 'rm -fr .g*' then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart  if its a gnome thing that should work
[12:28] <hassan2a> re
[12:28] <Davo_Dinkum> How can I restart my sound server?
[12:28] <drivingmenuts> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63418
[12:28] <bruenig> drivingmenuts, I am starting to think you are a troll, but one more time, alternate cd is a text based installer, the regular one is a live cd with an installer
[12:28] <Slart> bruenig: doesn't that match myjpg.tif aswell? since . is any character in reg exp?
[12:29] <drivingmenuts> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63418 this is the link for my problem can anyone help me
[12:29] <hjmills> bruenig and Slart: but how do i do a grep for everything that ends in either .jpg, .gif, .png
[12:29] <adam_> crimsun: in sound preferences I have autodetect now. This seems to choose ICH5 when playing sinuses. But if I use ALSA i get the same message as before... resource not available or busy...
[12:29] <der0b> Heya folks, is there any place I can read about proposed updates to ubuntu.  I'd really like to know when we'll see the latest security updates for firefox posted to the repos and I'd like to know why a security update is taking so long.
[12:29] <Innomen> !network-manager
[12:29] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[12:29] <Davo_Dinkum> No sound is coming out when I play a video
[12:29] <lumaQQ> ok   i still cant make a partition
[12:29] <elbeto> pike:when I should try alt-ctrl-f2?
[12:29] <pike_> Davo_Dinkum: all your services are under /etc/init.d/ 'ls /etc/init.d' to see then just sudo /etc/init.d/service restart or stop or start
[12:29] <bds> hjmills: Are you searching a directory?
[12:29] <Slart> hjmills: give me 2 minutes to figure it out =)
[12:29] <crimsun> adam_, you haven't answered my question
[12:29] <pike_> elbeto: whenever
[12:29] <jasin> lets see how stupid that bot is hehe
[12:29] <drivingmenuts> help T.T https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63418 this is the problem i get
[12:29] <pike_> elbeto: once computer has booted up
[12:29] <bds> hjmills: Are you searching a directory?
[12:30] <Davo_Dinkum> pike_: How will I know which is the service for sound?
[12:30] <drivingmenuts> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63418 help anyone? please.. i can't even get ubuntu to install
[12:30] <jasin> !bot | ubotu
[12:30] <ubotu> ubotu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:30] <elbeto> pike: I will try that, thanks
[12:30] <hjmills> bds: yes - its the script Slart gave me - im making it more fool proof by only acting on image files
[12:30] <lumaQQ> using Gparted and i wont give me an option to make a new partition but shows 50G free space..
[12:30] <adam_> sorry, I did, but maybe you missed it: ICH5, UART
[12:30] <_Snatch_> dudes, do not miss this: http://www.ogame.org
[12:30] <jasin> !ubuntu
[12:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[12:30] <_Snatch_> dudes, do not miss this: http://www.ogame.org
[12:31] <crimsun> adam_, I'm much too busy to read every line; if you don't preface a statement with my nick, I'm likely to miss it entirely
[12:31] <jasin> !ubuntu | drivingmenuts
[12:31] <ubotu> drivingmenuts: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[12:31] <pike_> Davo_Dinkum: well they didnt name it someting easy like sound i guess.. not sure im in an older version than you
[12:31] <adam_> CRIMSUN... sorry. my bad....
[12:31] <crimsun> adam_, please execute ``asoundconf set-default-card ICH5''
[12:31] <Two-Six> HELLLPPPPP
[12:31] <Two-Six> I need help
[12:31] <Two-Six> really really need help
[12:31] <crimsun> Two-Six, that's great. Try telling us with -what- you need assistance.
[12:31] <drivingmenuts> how do i download the alternate cd for north america
[12:31] <bruenig> ask your question
[12:31] <Q_Continuum> Issue with nvidia-glx: version available in repository is: 2.6.17.6 but current kernel version is 2.6.17.10 ....
[12:32] <noiesmo> !ask | Two-Six
[12:32] <ubotu> Two-Six: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:32] <drivingmenuts> please help mememememe
[12:32] <danny> !codecs
[12:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:32] <Two-Six> wireless stuff and compiling drivers
[12:32] <bds> hjmills: You could use the find command
[12:32] <lumaQQ> PARTITIONING NEEDING help ~~  using gpart  ~ wont give me an option o creTE new  but shows about 50G of free space.  did try using terminal too but that didnt work either ...  whats going on does anyone have an idea?
[12:32] <crimsun> Two-Six, that's too vague.
[12:32] <Innomen> once again, how do I initate network-manager-gnome?
[12:32] <drivingmenuts> ah t.t
[12:32] <Two-Six> ok
[12:32] <bruenig> drivingmenuts, you are doing a very good troll, keeping it right on the line so as not to be completely obvious. You have mastered it, good job
[12:32] <hjmills> bds how?
[12:32] <bds> hjmills: find . -name ".*jpg"
[12:32] <Innomen> !network-manager-gnome
[12:32] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.3-2ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 245 kB, installed size 1608 kB
[12:32] <drivingmenuts> can anyone help me with soft lock up issue please!!!!!!!!!1
[12:32] <adam_> CRIMSUN: perfekt! thx. now I've learned a few things.
[12:32] <bds> hjmills: would find all .jpg in the current directory
[12:32] <crimsun> adam_, now is sound audible?
[12:33] <Two-Six> well I am trying to get wireless networked with Ubuntu to my WPA encrypted router
[12:33] <funkja> Innomen: network-admin
[12:33] <Tann> How do i setup a network connection using iwconfig?
[12:33] <drivingmenuts> crimsun can u please help me
[12:33] <Innomen> Two-Six: good luck i'm there too
[12:33] <crimsun> drivingmenuts, with?
[12:33] <Two-Six> on my laptop and pc but am finding this realy hard
[12:33] <hjmills> bds but that doesnt help me get all the images - not just the jpegs
[12:33] <pike_> Tann: encryped of open?
[12:33] <drivingmenuts> i get this
[12:33] <bds> hjmills: find / -name ".*jpg" would find all starting in the root directory
[12:33] <Innomen> they wont even tell me how to start network-manager-gnome
[12:33] <drivingmenuts> error about soft lock up cpu#0
[12:33] <pike_> Tann: sorry or open
[12:33] <Tann> encrypted
[12:33] <Innomen> like "there's not a button, but it says its installed" isnt doing it for them :P
[12:33] <lumaQQ> Anyone???
[12:33] <bruenig>  /ignore *!*@36-0-56.home1.cgocable.net
[12:33] <funkja> Innomen, i just did. network-admin from the terminal or System -> Admin -> Network
[12:33] <bruenig> woops
[12:33] <adam_> crimsun: now it works with alsa chosen as well. Perfect.  lots of sound audible!
[12:34] <drivingmenuts> i can't even get ubuntu to be install due to this error. i searched about the websites about this bug it told me it was about ipw3945 kill switch something like that
[12:34] <pike_> Tann: i think just 'sudo iwconfig ath0 essid whatevername key 123456567'
[12:34] <crimsun> adam_, great
[12:34] <pike_> Tann: assuming wep
[12:34] <bruenig> forgot the d
[12:34] <Tann> no
[12:34] <Tann> wpa-psk
[12:34] <DanglyBits> can anyone help with getting a logitech quickcam for notebook pros working in edgy?
[12:34] <crimsun> adam_, please pastebin ``lspci -nv''
[12:34] <Nrbelex> Hi, how does one get into GNOME's advanced VNC settings?
[12:34] <maddash> why should I install dapper?
[12:34] <bds> hjmills: You need to format the regex, let me see what I can find
[12:34] <crimsun> maddash, as opposed to?
[12:34] <bds> hjmills: pardon the pun
[12:34] <hjmills> bds - thanks - regexps confuse me
[12:34] <drivingmenuts> !alternatecd
[12:34] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[12:34] <maddash> crimsun: breeeeeeeezy.
[12:34] <Innomen> funkja: it's "networking" and what comes up looks nothing like this "http://www.linux.org.mt/node/82 "
[12:35] <VerdRousseau> anyone know where to find gtkwifi on the desktop?
[12:35] <crimsun> maddash, newer software, LTS
[12:35] <xtknight> Is there a documented way to update the kernel for the installer on a LiveCD/DVD or alternate CD/DVD of Ubuntu to add support for newer hardware?
[12:35] <maddash> crimsun: thanks, I'll go reboot now
[12:35] <Innomen> in fact, now nothing comes up
[12:35] <maddash> crimsun: dapper, here I come!
[12:35] <drivingmenuts> crimsun please help me about the error soft lock up cpu#0
[12:35] <cntb> Ctrl Alt + ( X resol ) does not work .what to do ?
[12:36] <Innomen> no error, just a box in the task bar "starting netowrking" and then it disapears
[12:36] <Innomen> is there an error log somewhere?
[12:36] <drivingmenuts> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63418
[12:36] <Innomen> !error log
[12:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about error log - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <crimsun> drivingmenuts, does it occur with dapper (6.06), too?
[12:36] <Innomen> !error
[12:36] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[12:36] <adam_> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/178/
[12:36] <xtknight> innomen: a wireless error log exists using the command 'iwevent'
[12:36] <drivingmenuts> no i never tried installing dapper
[12:36] <crimsun> adam_, thanks.
[12:36] <Innomen> thanky
[12:37] <Rezistik> Hello
[12:37] <cntb> Ctrl Alt + ( X resol ) does not work .what to do ?
[12:37] <drivingmenuts> can i install beryl and xgl with dapper too?
[12:37] <Innomen> fuck
[12:37] <Two-Six> so I have got to the bit where I need to do a make command to "compile"??? an ndiswrapper but the command doesn't work because the make command can't find the path to my kernel headers or something
[12:37] <crimsun> adam_, if you'd like me to credit you in the changelog, please msg me your contact details
[12:37] <adam_> CRIMSUN: may I ask what that is? adn how it may help?
[12:37] <Innomen> the whole thing must be hosed because that does nothing as well
[12:37] <Music_Shuffle> !language
[12:37] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:37] <Rezistik> i want to switch to ubuntu but im afraid ill lose a lot of windows applications
[12:37] <xtknight> Two-Six: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:37] <Rezistik> is there a good windows emulator?
[12:37] <elbeto> Pike: after I typed rm bla bla bla i typed what you told me but it didn't do anything, I have to restart or what?
[12:37] <crimsun> adam_, I needed the pci id for your onboard sound device to add it to a quirk list
[12:37] <Innomen> !what are you 12?
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what are you 12? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <keithg> Is there some sort of a ink saving option I can turn off when it comes to printing?  It seems that I'm not using the correct amount of ink when I'm printing.  So everything is somewhat faded.  (New cartridge.)
[12:38] <xtknight> Rezistik: there is a program called wine and there is also the freely available VMware Server
[12:38] <DanglyBits> can anyone help with getting a logitech quickcam for notebook pros working in edgy?
[12:38] <drivingmenuts> !error
[12:38] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[12:38] <Rezistik> will wine work on every program
[12:38] <adam_> CRIMSUN: credit me? I havn't done much here! but i have adam.casserly@gmail.com
[12:38] <Rezistik> including games?
[12:38] <funkja> Innomen: let me install network-manager really quick
[12:38] <Q_Continuum> Running "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" returns "Error! Unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your kernel." - Kernel is 2.6.17.10, whereas linux-restricted & nvidia-glx is 2.6.17.6 - how can I get this working?
[12:38] <kramer3d> ok hi
[12:38] <kramer3d> ya um
[12:38] <drivingmenuts> !softlockup
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about softlockup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <elbeto> Hi guys, I have a big problem. My ubuntu doesn't start after login in, I need help.
[12:38] <cntb> Rezistik: dont lose ! Add ! install dual boot ! ;-)
[12:38] <pike_> elbeto: just alt-f7 then when back to gui alt-ctrl-backspace. if that doesnt work maybe reboot would be easier.
[12:38] <drivingmenuts> !softlockupcpu
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about softlockupcpu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <Innomen> !the prudish babies who can ignore you till you curse
[12:38] <Rezistik> whats dual boot
[12:38] <drivingmenuts> hlhl
[12:38] <xtknight> Rezistik: no it will not work perfectly with every program, but games can run on it.  i suggest using google for further information now that you know what the emulator is called
[12:38] <ubotu> the: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (edgy), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB
[12:38] <drivingmenuts> ljlkj;kll;j
[12:38] <drivingmenuts> awgh
[12:38] <cntb> Rezistik: get alternate CD
[12:38] <kramer3d> I am trting to install ubuntu and then I get this error saying like cannot start X interface
[12:38] <cntb> !alternate
[12:38] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[12:38] <Innomen> that woulda been neato heheh
[12:38] <drivingmenuts> can i install edgy after install dapper?
[12:38] <Innomen> funkja: thank you very much
[12:38] <drivingmenuts> can i install edgy after installing dapper?
[12:39] <pike_> kramer3d: see alternate cd above
[12:39] <kramer3d> i tried  installing from safe graphics mode, does same thing =[
[12:39] <drivingmenuts> like upgrade function or something
[12:39] <Innomen> funkja: i think this might just be too much for this laptop
[12:39] <Two-Six> xtknight  whats the sname -r thing in sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:39] <Slart> hjmills: hmm.. bash and grep interferes with each other..I'm still trying..
[12:39] <drivingmenuts> i can't even fuckjing get to install fuction
[12:39] <xtknight> Two-Six: it replaces `uname -r` with your kernel version.
[12:39] <cntb> Ctrl Alt + ( X resol ) does not work .what to do ?
[12:39] <elbeto> Thanks Pike, it still doing the same thing, blank screen after login.
[12:39] <kramer3d> ok
[12:39] <kramer3d> I will try that
[12:40] <Two-Six> OK, I have tried to do this with a d=link drive and madwifi too the make command can'#t find my kernel
[12:40] <drivingmenuts> where is the link for alternate cd for 6.10
[12:40] <Innomen> drivingmenuts: i'll find it, hold on
[12:40] <jasin> bbl
[12:40] <pike_> elbeto: youll have to try reconfigure again i guess.
[12:40] <wsjunior> why ubuntu for amd64 has this super ugly back and white bootsplash?
[12:40] <pike_> elbeto: you are using vesa driver?
[12:41] <elbeto> I tried to reconfig with the sudp dpkg -reconfigure, etc etc but it didn't do anything
[12:41] <Nrbelex> How does one get into GNOME's advanced VNC settings?
[12:41] <Innomen> http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.10/
[12:41] <Q_Continuum> Running "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" returns "Error! Unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your kernel." - Kernel is 2.6.17.10, whereas linux-restricted & nvidia-glx is 2.6.17.6 - how can I get this working?
[12:41] <xtknight> Nrbelex: well, basic ones are at `vino-preferences`
[12:41] <pike_> elbeto: try again real quick alt-ctrl-f2 then login then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:41] <elbeto> After that command it recognized my video card and everything but it didn't help anyway
[12:41] <pike_> elbeto: choose vesa for driver
[12:41] <Innomen> didja catch that drivingmenuts ?
[12:41] <pike_> elbeto: ah
[12:42] <kramer3d> desktop CD requires restart ?
[12:42] <wsjunior> how do i change the ubuntu boot splash? it is black and white here on my amd64 but id like to have the colored version as the 32bit ubuntu.. is there any way?
[12:42] <Nrbelex> xtknight, thanks but I need things like display numbers and ports
[12:42] <Nrbelex> which are not in the that menu
[12:43] <kramer3d> desktop CD requires restart ?
[12:43] <iGama> hello
[12:43] <xtknight> Nrbelex: /etc/vnc.conf ??
[12:43] <oidia> kramer3d: when booting into the installed, yes?
[12:43] <kramer3d> crud
[12:44] <drivingmenuts> hasdfahjkf
[12:44] <drivingmenuts> help
[12:44] <drivingmenuts> help
[12:44] <drivingmenuts> help
[12:44] <drivingmenuts> help
[12:44] <drivingmenuts> help
[12:44] <drivingmenuts> help ahrhrhrhrhrh
[12:44] <bds> hjmills: You still there?
[12:44] <adam_> crimsun: sorry to bother, but where should I file the bug did you say?
[12:44] <drivingmenuts> driving me nuts
[12:44] <flyinghippo_> Constantly repeating lines won't get you help, Drivingmenuts.
[12:44] <oidia> drivingmenuts: ask or sut up?
[12:44] <crimsun> adam_, on launchpad.net
[12:44] <hjmills> bds: yes - trying to learn regexps now
[12:44] <oidia> shut*
[12:44] <drivingmenuts> noone freaking asnwering
[12:44] <adam_> CRIMSUN: under what? I'm on launchpad now, first time user
[12:44] <flyinghippo_> drivignmenuts: Ask politely and someone will answer.
[12:44] <oidia> drivingmenuts: what?
[12:44] <drivingmenuts> noone even knows about the error soft cpu lock up
[12:44] <xtknight> Nrbelex: also use 'man vnc.conf' for command documentation
[12:45] <bds> hjmills: http://dmiessler.com/study/nix/commands/find/
[12:45] <flyinghippo_> Drivingmenuts: If no one answers, just try again later.  ^_^
[12:45] <hjmills> Slart: thanks - it seems its the pipe char but as you say - bash interferes
[12:45] <Innomen> drivingmenuts: i asnwered you
[12:45] <drivingmenuts> would anyone please help me about this error please
[12:45] <drivingmenuts> SOFT CPU LOCK UP
[12:45] <Nrbelex> xtknight, thanks
[12:45] <hjmills> !flood
[12:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:45] <oidia> drivingmenuts: the alternate cd is at the mirrors?
[12:45] <Innomen> you asked where to download the installer
[12:45] <drivingmenuts> i can't even get ubuntu to be installed
[12:45] <bds> hjmills: towards the bottom of that link will work
[12:45] <drivingmenuts> alternate cd won't help
[12:45] <kramer3d> IF i USE photoshop through Wine, is it slower ?
[12:45] <Innomen> which one are you installing? use the alternate
[12:45] <drivingmenuts> this is the https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63418 bug code about mine
[12:45] <xtknight> kramer3d: yes, by a little
[12:45] <Slart> hjmills: yes.. It's most annoying.. I have found some examples on the web.. but they don't work either as supposed
[12:45] <kramer3d> k
[12:45] <funkja> Innomen, I can't figure it out either. Have you tried restarting?
[12:46] <flyinghippo_> After installing KDE on Ubuntu, I am unable to control my volume, including from my volume control panel that's built into my laptop.  However, I was able to do so in GNOME.  Does anyone know of a way to change the volume?
[12:46] <Two-Six> OK tried that headers coulodn't be found
[12:46] <xtknight> kramer3d: but i got photoshop cs2 running in wine just fine
[12:46] <kramer3d> xtknight, do you know if it supports wacon tablet?
[12:46] <xtknight> kramer3d: i did have to adjust some registry setting for it to work
[12:46] <kramer3d> *wacom
[12:46] <bds> hjmills: find . -name "*.jpg" -o -name "*.png"
[12:46] <Innomen> funkja: yea, i think this laptop is just too weak
[12:46] <kramer3d> ok
[12:46] <Innomen> its runnign out of memory or something
[12:46] <kramer3d> ^
[12:46] <funkja> okay
[12:46] <Nrbelex> xtknight, my real problem is that I can't view my linux computer through the java interface
[12:46] <Two-Six> I am using 2.6.15-27-686
[12:46] <xtknight> kramer3d: ubuntu and the X server supports wacom, wine should too
[12:46] <Innomen> winxp worked fine on this laptop
[12:46] <kramer3d> k tight
[12:46] <Q_Continuum> Innomen: how much ram?
[12:46] <drivingmenuts> how do we check the kernel version?
[12:46] <willys_fueguino> happy new year for everyone!
[12:46] <Innomen> so ubuntu is more demanding than xp
[12:46] <drivingmenuts> please help anyone god T.T
[12:46] <Slart> hjmills: I would expect something like this to work.. ls | grep "(\.jpg|\.tif)"   but it doesn't
[12:46] <Innomen> Q_Continuum: under 200
[12:46] <drivingmenuts> please T.T please i beg u ppl
[12:47] <drivingmenuts> please T.T            i beg you
[12:47] <cntb> >  Ctrl Alt + ( X resol ) does not work .what to do ?
[12:47] <cntb> > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/179/ there yu have my xorg.conf
[12:47] <andre> hello gents
[12:47] <Q_Continuum> drivingmenuts: sudo uname -a
[12:47] <drivingmenuts> i beg you please help me
[12:47] <elbeto> i'll be back later, thanks
[12:47] <Slart> !patience | drivingmenuts
[12:47] <funkja> Innomen, try nm-applet
[12:47] <ubotu> drivingmenuts: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:47] <drivingmenuts> q continuum please help me
[12:47] <xtknight> Nrbelex: hmm..i'm not sure if the bundled 'gnome vnc' (aka vino) allows that.  u may have to install another VNC server and configure it...what you're looking for is really a Xvnc server
[12:47] <bds> hjmills: Did you get that link?
[12:47] <sharp15> mnoir: uhh. removing xinetd didn't work.
[12:47] <Q_Continuum> drivingmenuts, Applications->Accessories->Terminal then type "sudo uname -a"
[12:47] <Q_Continuum> it will prompt for your password, then give you the kernel version.
[12:47] <drivingmenuts> oh thanks
[12:48] <drivingmenuts> q continuum would u please help me
[12:48] <SuPeRhAm> hai all
[12:48] <drivingmenuts> about the error? please
[12:48] <hjmills> Slart: bds has found a find command that doesnt use reg exps that does the job but i would have thought grep would be the tool to use for filtering a list
[12:48] <Innomen> wow yea
[12:48] <hjmills> bds: yes- thank you very much
[12:48] <Innomen> my machine wont even start the terminal now
[12:48] <Slart> bds, hjmills : ah.. which command?
[12:48] <funkja> Innomen, strange :)
[12:48] <drivingmenuts> my machine can't even install the ubuntu
[12:48] <Q_Continuum> drivingmenuts, I'm not great with the kernel myself, still a newbie as well
[12:48] <protection> I cant get w32codecs to install, i'm using the ubuntu guide and it's not working, can anyone help ?
[12:48] <hjmills> Slart: find . -name "*.jpg" -o -name "*.gif" -o -name "*.png"
[12:48] <drivingmenuts> my machine can't even install the ubuntu aggggggggg
[12:48] <Innomen> i wish someone would giv me a ghost image of an install
[12:48] <Nrbelex> xtknight, alright, thanks
[12:49] <bds> Slart: http://dmiessler.com/study/nix/commands/find/
[12:49] <drivingmenuts> T_t
[12:49] <drivingmenuts> T_T
[12:49] <Slart> hjmills: nice.. well I guess any way that works is all good =)
[12:49] <drivingmenuts> slart
[12:49] <hjmills> so find in the current dir named "*.jpg" or named "*.gif" etc
[12:49] <Innomen> it took like 10 hours to install
[12:49] <drivingmenuts> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63418
[12:49] <drivingmenuts> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63418
[12:49] <drivingmenuts> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63418
[12:49] <Innomen> no kidding
[12:49] <bds> Slart: towards the bottom of hte page
[12:49] <drivingmenuts> please anyoen
[12:49] <crimsun> adam_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
[12:49] <Innomen> wow
[12:49] <hjmills> Slart: yeah - thanks for all the help - you have been great
[12:49] <crimsun> drivingmenuts, stop spamming
[12:49] <Two-Six> I need to download kernel headers for 2.6.15-27-686 I can't seem to do this
[12:49] <Innomen> drivingmenuts: SHUT UP
[12:49] <drivingmenuts> adhashrhar
[12:49] <drivingmenuts> god
[12:49] <Two-Six> so that a make command will work
[12:49] <bds> hjmills: I thought regex would be a better way to go
[12:49] <drivingmenuts> noone knows about bug
[12:49] <funkja> drivingmenuts: listen. no one here knows why it isn't working. The bug report hasn't been resolved so no one there knows either. We told you to install from the alternate cd. That might work. Please try that now.
[12:49] <crimsun> drivingmenuts, did you answer my question regarding dapper (6.06)?
[12:49] <Slart> hjmills: no problem.. these things are good to know.. I learned as much as you did =)
[12:49] <drivingmenuts> dapper?
[12:49] <bds> hjmills: and find supports it but since we are both weak on regex, it *works* o_o
[12:50] <drivingmenuts> can i ask u a question crimsun
[12:50] <drivingmenuts> what's the different between dapper and edgy
[12:50] <hjmills> bds: yeah - i would have thought so but evidently not - im just lookin to make it ignore case now - thanks again
[12:50] <hjmills> drivingmenuts: same as the diff between win2k and winxp - just less pronounced
[12:50] <drivingmenuts> can i install beryl and xgl on dapper as well?
[12:51] <Two-Six> terminal said this:
[12:51] <hjmills> !beryl | drivingmenuts
[12:51] <ubotu> drivingmenuts: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:51] <Two-Six> root@LinuxPC:/home/gareth# sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`2.6.15-27-68`-r bash: 2.6.15-27-68: command not found
[12:51] <Two-Six> Reading package lists... Done
[12:51] <Two-Six> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:51] <Two-Six> E: Couldn't find package linux-headers--r
[12:51] <Two-Six> root@LinuxPC:/home/gareth#
[12:51] <funkja> drivingmenuts, yes
[12:51] <jasin> hi
[12:51] <crimsun> drivingmenuts, dapper is an older stable release with a longer support period
[12:51] <xtknight> Two-Six: you need to type exactly this with the tildes included and everything: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:51] <Two-Six>  Couldn't find package linux-headers--r
[12:51] <funkja> drivingmenuts: have you tried the alternate cd?
[12:51] <Two-Six> so what's that all about them
[12:51] <hjmills> !paste | Two-Six
[12:51] <ubotu> Two-Six: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:51] <bds> hjmills: No problems, regex will work and should give you more flexablity but I don't think I can help you much with that
[12:51] <AdamKili> y does ubuntu 6.10 have problems with Intel Celeron processors?
[12:51] <drivingmenuts> im downloading the alternate cd.. thanks T.T
[12:51] <Q_Continuum> Running "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" returns "Error! Unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your kernel." - Kernel is 2.6.17.10, whereas linux-restricted & nvidia-glx is 2.6.17.6 - how can I get this working?
[12:52] <hjmills> bds - no - Slart was trying but bash kept interfering
[12:52] <drivingmenuts> can i install XGL on the dapper too?
[12:52] <hjmills> !paste | Q_Continuum
[12:52] <ubotu> Q_Continuum: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:52] <hjmills> !xgl | drivingmenuts
[12:52] <ubotu> drivingmenuts: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:52] <drivingmenuts> thank you
[12:53] <jasin> Why do you people have so much trouble with linux?
[12:53] <drivingmenuts> cuz it doesn't support the core 2 duo
[12:53] <xevil> drivingmenuts: what kernel type did you choose on your install?  i.e. i386, i686, K7
[12:53] <jasin> lol
[12:53] <Xorlev> Yes it does, drivingmenuts.
[12:53] <bds> hjmills: hrm, oh well, good luck :)
[12:53] <sharp15> anyone know if openssh-server and proftpd were updated recently?
[12:53] <drivingmenuts> i386
[12:53] <NET||abuse> hey guys,,, from a fairly default setup, no X, just terminal,, how do i add ~/bin/ to $PATH for all users? including root?
[12:53] <jasin> linux runs on core 2 duos
[12:53] <drivingmenuts> ok linux doens't run on intel 3945 wireless laptops
[12:53] <Xorlev> drivingmenuts: It works just fine with prescott march.
[12:54] <roman> pisze kto tutaj po polsku ?:)
[12:54] <drivingmenuts> i guess noone can help me with my error eh T.T darn...
[12:54] <mnoir> !pl
[12:54] <Xorlev> Which was confirmed by an Intel dev as the correct march. Pentium-M'd probably work just fine too.
[12:54] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:54] <sharp15> jasin: some use unstable software (XGL), others like me have Windows-ish problems. (nothing changed on the system but stuff isn't working)
[12:54] <NET||abuse> i'm looking into ~/.bashrc for each user, or into /etc/bash.bashrc ,, and i'm not sure how to right the line in to do it
[12:54] <Two-Six> what is a kernel header
[12:54] <bimberi> NET||abuse: the default setup does that (last bit of ~/.bash_profile)
[12:54] <drivingmenuts> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63418 this website told me replease the ipw3945.ko with something else but how can i freaking replease it when i can't even get it to install
[12:55] <sharp15> Two-Six: header file?
[12:55] <Two-Six> yep
[12:55] <Two-Six> kernel header whats that
[12:55] <roman> ubotu piszesz po polsku ?
[12:55] <xtknight> Two-Six: it's the source code for your kernel, you need it to compile modules
[12:55] <Two-Six> why do you need to compile a module
[12:55] <NET||abuse> bimberi: i don't see it there at all :(
[12:55] <mnoir> !pl | roman
[12:55] <ubotu> roman: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:55] <Two-Six> what is a module
[12:55] <sharp15> Two-Six: header files are used to define functions.  they keep code organized.
[12:55] <arrenlex> NET||abuse: This line works for me. Maybe it will help you. export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/base/mine/bin
[12:55] <xtknight> Two-Six: a module is a driver
[12:55] <cntb> ubotu bot
[12:55] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:55] <cntb> !bot
[12:55] <NET||abuse> arrenlex: thanks
[12:56] <drivingmenuts> bot stupid
[12:56] <Two-Six> so why doesn't that command work
[12:56] <sharp15> Two-Six: needs compiled because someone doesn't want to distribute binaries.
[12:56] <jasin> sharp, yea
[12:56] <Slart> ok, can anyone figure this out.. I have three files in a directory "washington", "winnipeg" and "edmonton". when I type ls | grep "^w" I get 2 matches.. but when I type ls | grep "(^w|^e)" I get no matches at all.. shouldn't I get 3 matches?
[12:56] <bimberi> NET||abuse: hm, I'm using Dapper here.  Edgy could be different.  I'll pastebin the relevant bit ...
[12:56] <NET||abuse> nope, i'm on dapper here too
[12:56] <andre> hello gents a have a quick question to ask?
[12:56] <xtknight> Two-Six: what are you trying to do?
[12:56] <arrenlex> Slart: grep ^[we] 
[12:57] <Two-Six> ok, so when you compile a module then you use the make file and that looks at the install file in you unpacked thing diorectory
[12:57] <cntb> !ask | andre
[12:57] <ubotu> andre: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:57] <jasin> why you runing dapper?
[12:57] <andre> How do you install an upgrade to amsn
[12:57] <andre> untar and install the package upgrade
[12:57] <bimberi> NET||abuse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/180/   (last 4 lines of my ~/.bash_profile)
[12:57] <jasin> andre, apt-get install amsn
[12:58] <Two-Six> xt knight make my wifi cards work
[12:58] <xtknight> Two-Six: oh, youre compiling ndiswrapper right?
[12:58] <arrenlex> Slart: Got it?
[12:58] <Slart> arrenlex: bah.. =) made my example to easy.. how to check for things with either "ash or mon" in the name? ls | grep "(ash|mon)" ? doesn't work here
[12:58] <andre> a have amsn but it needs to be upgraded hoe do you do that
[12:58] <Two-Six> yep and I have tried to compile a madwifi thing
[12:58] <jasin> My wifi card is supported in the kernel
[12:58] <Two-Six> and also a d-link driver
[12:58] <Two-Six> or something
[12:58] <sharp15> jasin: who was "why you runing dapper?"  directed at/
[12:58] <Zambezi> I accidently erased files with rm -r /backup/ /mnt/hdd2/ when I forgot to delete /mnt/hdd2/ in the command after running cp -r. Is there any chance I can get some files back on /mnt/hdd2/?
[12:58] <xtknight> Two-Six: can you post the exact error message you're getting into pastebin?
[12:58] <xkhing> Anyone here get this error before " the process for the file protocol died unexpectedly?" while booting up KUBUNTU live cd?
[12:58] <adam_> crimsun: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/77647 here is a link to the bugreport.... give me some critic, first time posting, if you have time
[12:59] <Two-Six> probably not right now
[12:59] <jasin> sharp, anyone runing it.
[12:59] <Two-Six> but it just couldn't find the headers for my kernal
[12:59] <funkja> !kubuntu | xkhing
[12:59] <ubotu> xkhing: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[12:59] <wayco> can anyone recommend a webcam that works easily with ubuntu?
[12:59] <xtknight> Two-Six: if you had them installed i dont see why not...perhaps it needs to be pointed to the correct directory
[12:59] <Two-Six> just said  Couldn't find package linux-headers--r
[01:00] <Two-Six> I can see a folder where it looks like they are in
[01:00] <xtknight> Two-Six: type this exactly as it is after the colon (tildes and all.  u didnt type it right the first time): sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[01:00] <xkhing> hmm .. that kind of didnt help me
[01:00] <crimsun> adam_, triaging now
[01:00] <Slart> arrenlex: ah. .found it.. should have used egrep instead.. then it works..
[01:00] <Two-Six> and replace the uname -r with what?
[01:00] <xtknight> xkhing: i think hes telling u to go to #kubuntu for kubuntu support
[01:00] <sharp15> i'm really confused.  my ssh and ftp servers were barely running as it was.
[01:00] <xkhing> oh im sorry ..
[01:01] <xtknight> Two-Six: dont replace it with anything.  the PC processes uname -r and replaces it itself
[01:01] <arrenlex> Slart: This seems to work: grep ["ash""mon"] 
[01:01] <arrenlex> Slart: No it doesn't xD ignore me
[01:01] <Two-Six> OK will try it, whats the past bin thing
[01:01] <xtknight> !pastebin
[01:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:01] <jasin> uname -r is a command, it points to your kernel version
[01:01] <Two-Six> ok that's doing stuff
[01:01] <pike_> Two-Six: $() or `` indicates a command
[01:01] <jasin> !uname
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uname - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <Two-Six> dunno what tho'
[01:02] <Two-Six> :-)
[01:02] <Two-Six> waaheyyy it doing stuff
[01:03] <Two-Six> OK thats done something.  want to have the URL of the instructions I am following?
[01:03] <xtknight> Two-Six: that would be helpful
[01:03] <jasin> two-six, yes
[01:03] <Two-Six> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21589
[01:03] <xtknight> Two-Six: also type xtknight: at the front of your post so i can see your messages more easily
[01:03] <Two-Six> OK
[01:04] <Two-Six> I get to the make command bit and it stops doing stuff
[01:04] <andre> how do you install and upgraded version of amsn
[01:04] <TWD> Hi
[01:05] <phr34ck> What's the best resolution for a 15.4" screen ?
[01:05] <xtknight> Two-Six: u mean at the 'sudo make install' step?
[01:05] <TWD> It depends on the monitor.
[01:05] <sharp15> phr34ck: the native one.
[01:05] <arrenlex> phr34ck: An LCD screen? The native resolution
[01:05] <xtknight> phr34ck: 1920x1200 is the biggest resolution for a 15.4, but some are lower
[01:05] <Moosebuntu> how can I use cp to copy recursive subdirectories also?  -r doesn't seem to work.
[01:05] <IndyGunFreak> phr34ck, lot of variales to that question
[01:05] <phr34ck> Man, I'm having hard times.
[01:05] <arrenlex> Moosebuntu: -r should work.
[01:06] <TWD> Can someone help me set up RAID 5 during the Ubuntu Server install?
[01:06] <phr34ck> Any of you using 15.4"?
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> phr34ck, i'm running 19in LCD, 75hz at 1280x1024, and it looks great
[01:06] <arrenlex> Moosebuntu: Confirmed that -r works.
[01:06] <Moosebuntu> arrenlex> I'm trying to do this: sudo cp -r /home/asenn/Data/q3wf/extracted/WFA35Engine /usr/local/games/quake3
[01:06] <Slart> hjmills: ok.. should have used egrep instead of grep.. egrep understands more regular expressions.. here's a new version      for i in $(ls | egrep "(\.jpg|\.tif|\.gif|\.bmp)"); do identify -format "%i %w %h" $i; done
[01:06] <linuxnewbie756> how can i update firefox to 2.0.0.1? i know how to download the tar.gz and use it, but i want to update my system, is it possible, and is it safe?
[01:06] <phr34ck> !ecplise
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ecplise - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <Slart> !eclipse
[01:06] <Moosebuntu> arrenlex> there are two subdirs in WFA35Engine that are not copying
[01:06] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> phr34ck,  i'd say try 1028x764
[01:06] <phr34ck> The problem with this LCD is that it's 15.4", which means wild screen.
[01:07] <phr34ck> wide*
[01:07] <xtknight> lol
[01:07] <VerdRousseau> when does fiesty official release
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> oh, a wide screen
[01:07] <Two-Six> XT KNIGHT: ITS DOING MORE STUFF
[01:07] <phr34ck> so it sucks big time man.
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> VerdRousseau, probably around 5mo I'd guess
[01:07] <Moosebuntu> I am tempted to sudo Nautilus just to get them copied
[01:07] <xtknight> phr34ck: you can increase font size in eclipse preferences
[01:07] <phr34ck> I cannot find anything comfortable.
[01:07] <linuxnewbie756> how can i update firefox?
[01:07] <phr34ck> xtknight, it's eclipse, firefox ... you name it ;p
[01:07] <Slart> hehe.. I have to ask if they have wild screens next time I'm at the local computer shop... ;)
[01:08] <tsoler> hello
[01:08] <phr34ck> Some websites are totally unreadable because of the font.
[01:08] <Two-Six> xtknight: IT'S STILL DOING STUFF
[01:08] <EvilMike> I'm not exactly sure how to get my sound card working. lspci shows "04:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS" but I don't actually know how to make it work
[01:08] <xtknight> Two-Six: good :P
[01:08] <bds> Moosebuntu: try -R
[01:08] <xtknight> phr34ck: well firefox has a font option heheh
[01:08] <cybercod> hello again everyone
[01:08] <jughead> hello howdy
[01:08] <Two-Six> XTKnightWhat's it doing
[01:08] <EvilMike> Also I've disabled the integrated audio that comes with the motherboard
[01:08] <xtknight> phr34ck: aside from firefox and eclipse, increase DPI using Fonts preferences
[01:08] <EvilMike> since that never worked anyway
[01:08] <xtknight> Two-Six: it should be compiling your module (wireless driver)
[01:08] <Moosebuntu> bds> trying now
[01:08] <arrenlex> Slart: Why not just ls *.jpg *.tif *.gif *.bmp
[01:08] <tsoler> does google earth has new drivers for ubuntu?
[01:09] <xtknight> tsoler: google earth doesnt have drivers
[01:09] <vulcanius> EvilMike: have you messed with your volumes?
[01:09] <EvilMike> yeah ;p
[01:09] <theflyingfool> does google have any other programs than google earth that are linux native
[01:09] <xtknight> tsoler: it uses NVIDIA/ATI/Intel/xorg drivers
[01:09] <Slart> arrenlex: hehe.. don't ruin it now.. but sure.. that might work
[01:09] <xtknight> theflyingfool: they have Picasa but it is not linux native
[01:09] <Slart> arrenlex: the find-command also works
[01:09] <phr34ck> xtknight, what font are you using ?
[01:09] <Moosebuntu> bds> that copied the folder ITSELF to the destination directory.  I only want to copy the CONTENTS to the dest.  How can I do this?
[01:09] <cybercod> i heard they were gonna bring google desktop ... but it hasn't happened yer
[01:09] <cybercod> *yet
[01:09] <Two-Six> XTKnight: that did loads of stuff.....
[01:10] <Slart> cybercod: doesn't beagle offer the same features?
[01:10] <EvilMike> vulcanius: The speakers are on. Also if I go into the sound volume control it's fine, but my sound card doesn't even show up there in the sound devices
[01:10] <xtknight> phr34ck: i'm running 1680x1050 widescreen 20.1", font family: "Sans" size 10 for all the listboxes, subpixel LCD smoothing
[01:10] <linuxnewbie756> picasa works if you install the deb, but techically it uses wine
[01:10] <bds> Moosebuntu: Can you please paste the command you are using again?
[01:10] <andre> im trying to install and upgrade to amsn from 0.95 to 0.96 how do i install the upgrde and the package what command do i use, i already have amsn on but not the upgrade?
[01:10] <tsoler> ive noticed that it doesnot promp me anymore for imporer video driver
[01:10] <Nighthawke> how can i change my video cards and drivers in a 6.10 enviro
[01:10] <vulcanius> EvilMike, join #vulcanius
[01:10] <theflyingfool> How well does edgy run on laptops?
[01:10] <bds> Moosebuntu: I think this is what you want
[01:10] <xtknight> Two-Six: it does indeed do a lot of stuff, just wait till its all done
[01:10] <Moosebuntu>  sudo cp -R /home/asenn/Data/q3wf/extracted/WFA35Engine /usr/local/games/quake3
[01:11] <cybercod> what are the main benefits of edgy over dapper?
[01:11] <arrenlex> cybercod: Dapper isn't getting any new versions of packages. Just bugfixes.
[01:11] <cyber_brain_mfkg> ok! i'm using gentoo but i've heard that some ubuntu users had same problem as i have!actually after some updates i've lost SHUTDOWN button in Gnome Menu!anybody has solution???
[01:11] <Moosebuntu> bds> The contents of the source dir need to be output directly, without the folder name from the source.
[01:11] <Slart> cyber_brain_mfkg: can't you edit the menu and put it back?
[01:11] <bds> Moosebuntu: cp -R /home/asenn/Data/q3wf/extracted/WFA34Engine/* /usr/local/games/quake3
[01:11] <cybercod> good to know
[01:12] <Moosebuntu> bds> ok i'll try
[01:12] <bds> Moosebuntu: I think you need the astrisk to copy all files
[01:12] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Slart, nope!
[01:12] <linuxnewbie756> when is 7.10 supposed to come out? fiesty fawn isn't it?
[01:12] <Moosebuntu> bds> heck yea!  That worked!  Thank you much!
[01:12] <bds> Moosebuntu: np :)
[01:12] <Moosebuntu> bds> will *.* work too?
[01:13] <andre>  how do you install and upgraded version of amsn
[01:13] <bimberi> !feisty | linuxnewbie756
[01:13] <ubotu> linuxnewbie756: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[01:13] <andre>  im trying to install and upgrade to amsn from 0.95 to 0.96 how do i install the upgrde and the package what command do i use, i already have amsn on but not the upgrade?
[01:13] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Slart, u had same problem?
[01:14] <binarydigit> andre: did you download the package ?
[01:14] <linuxnewbie756> how hard will it be to upgrade to fiesty fawn? will we have to install from a disk, or can we just dl an upgrade using synaptic, or the like?
[01:14] <Slart> cyber_brain_mfkg: well.. not menu-items.. but I've had buttons die on me.. but I could just launch a little panel-editor thingy and put them back (ubuntu 6.10)
[01:14] <bds> Moosebuntu: I am not sure I understand *.*
[01:14] <binarydigit> linuxnewbie756: you'll be able to just upgrade using synaptic
[01:14] <pike_> cyber_brain_mfkg: System >> Administration >> Login Window. Then make sure that "Show Actions Menu" is checked  first maybe
[01:14] <TWD> I need someone to walk me through setting up RAID 5 using the parition utility during the install.
[01:14] <arrenlex> linuxnewbie756: feisty isn't even released yet. Why do you want it?
[01:14] <bimberi> linuxnewbie756: Using the Update Manager I expect
[01:14] <Moosebuntu>  sudo cp -R /home/asenn/Data/q3wf/extracted/WFA35Engine/*.* /usr/local/games/quake3
[01:14] <andre> yes a tarz.bz2 is that that write one for ubuntu
[01:15] <linuxnewbie756> i don't want it, just looking forward to another lts
[01:15] <compengi> andre, if you got a new version as a source then you need to compile it
[01:15] <linuxnewbie756> i tried 6.10, it didn't work so well for me
[01:15] <compengi> andre, yeah it's a source package then you need to extract it and compile it
[01:16] <bimberi> linuxnewbie756: I doubt that 7.04 will be LTS
[01:16] <bds> Moosebuntu: I believe that would copy all files/folders which had a dot in the name
[01:16] <linuxnewbie756> really...i heard about an upcoming version that will be lts. is it 7.10? if so, thats farther away
[01:16] <cyber_brain_mfkg> pike_, it wasn't checked!i've checked it!
[01:16] <bds> Moosebuntu: I think folders are treated as files in Linux
[01:16] <Moosebuntu> bds> ok, thx :)
[01:16] <cyber_brain_mfkg> pike_, what now?
[01:16] <pike_> cyber_brain_mfkg: hopefully that was it
[01:16] <darksmiley> hey guys, how can you UNDELETE files on EXT3?
[01:16] <darksmiley> is it possible?
[01:17] <pike_> cyber_brain_mfkg: logout/backin
[01:17] <bimberi> linuxnewbie756: 7.10 would make more sense (every 18 months)
[01:17] <genius314> Is there a good anti-virus and/or firewall for linux?
[01:17] <pike_> cyber_brain_mfkg: or just pkill gnome-panel maybe
[01:17] <andre> how do you compile a package
[01:17] <nick_p> I am one happy ubuntu user. Got it to work today on my Mac, booting off external USB :-) Yay.
[01:17] <gizmo_the_great1> hi. Trying to burn a DVD using GnomeBaker. I have several files, all of which are 3.9Gb. Whenever I try to drag them to the Data DVD project area, nothing happens. But if I try with some other files, it works OK. As I type I am using Nautilus to burn the DVD instead but I would like to know what the problem might be?
[01:17] <bds> nick_p: what type of mac?
[01:17] <phr34ck> hey, can I download ecplise via apt-get ?
[01:17] <linuxnewbie756> ok. what is it with 6.10, anyone besides me have trouble with it? i tried it, switched back to 6.06
[01:17] <nick_p> bds: MacBook
[01:17] <darksmiley> genius314: both are available on synaptic... iptables with firestarter UI is good for a firewall
[01:17] <xtknight> phr34ck: yes
[01:18] <Two-Six> XT Knight: Tried to  sudo ndiswrapper -l and it says:
[01:18] <Two-Six> wg311v2 : invalid driver!
[01:18] <genius314> darksmiley: Thanks.
[01:18] <bds> nick_p: congrats, I asked earlier if anyone had done it
[01:18] <java_probs> anybody here know why java would freeze up firefox
[01:18] <cyber_brain_mfkg> pike_, that was it! thanx man!
[01:18] <xtknight> Two-Six: what step are you on
[01:18] <phr34ck> what's the name of the package?
[01:18] <phr34ck> ecplise is not found
[01:18] <pike_> cyber_brain_mfkg: np :)
[01:18] <bds> nick_p: thinking of buying a macbook
[01:18] <xtknight> phr34ck: apt-cache search eclipse
[01:18] <Two-Six> when I try to sudo ndiswrapper -i wg311v2.inf  it says driver wg311v2 is already installed
[01:18] <darksmiley> can you UNDELETE on EXT3?
[01:19] <xtknight> phr34ck: its just called eclipse, u may need universe or multiverse
[01:19] <java_probs> I just installed it, but when it goes to load on the page, it displays the java picture sometimes, then after a minute firefox freezes
[01:19] <compengi> andre, you should first extract it and then with the terminal enter the folder using "cd" command... then when you are in the folder of the source package you need to type the following commands "./configure" then "make" then "make install"
[01:19] <phr34ck> nothing is returned ...
[01:19] <bimberi> darksmiley:
[01:19] <Two-Six> XT KNight STEP 5
[01:19] <bimberi> darksmiley: no
[01:19] <xtknight> !repositories | phr34ck
[01:19] <ubotu> phr34ck: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[01:19] <xevil> darksmiley: it ain't going to happen,,,
[01:19] <darksmiley> it's actually impossible?
[01:19] <phr34ck> xtknight, I know that.
[01:19] <phr34ck> I have them all opened.
[01:19] <darksmiley> the thing is, i actually deleted some files that i should have shredded
[01:19] <gizmo_the_great1> darksmiley: not with file recovery software like EnCase, Access Data's Forensic Toolkit etc
[01:19] <pike_> darksmiley: e2undel  but im not sure if it works with journaling
[01:19] <phr34ck> Main, Universe, Multiverse and the other one.
[01:19] <xtknight> phr34ck: try `sudo apt-get update`
[01:19] <nick_p> bds: the only unusual thing was to do apt-get install 915resolution to get the native resolution support in X. Wireless works, using it now. However, for some reason it didn't associate for a while...
[01:19] <java_probs> I installed from respritories then I tried to install the version off of the sun website
[01:19] <xevil> darksmiley: http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html
[01:20] <java_probs> all installs successed, but it still does not work right in firefox
[01:20] <gizmo_the_great1> darksmiley: not without file recovery software like EnCase, Access Data's Forensic Toolkit etc
[01:20] <darksmiley> so, if the files are actually 100% unrecoverable, then it doesn't really matter
[01:20] <darksmiley> because they are gone anyway
[01:20] <xtknight> Two-Six: well it looks like youre about done, try rebooting?
[01:20] <maddash> what are shadow passwords?
[01:20] <phr34ck> I do that all the time, but will do it now.
[01:20] <bimberi> darksmiley: i've seen a procedure written somewhere, iirc it begins with powering off the computer immediately
[01:20] <maddash> are they simply hashed text files?
[01:20] <xtknight> Two-Six: well do step 6 and 7 and the nreboot
[01:20] <Two-Six> XTknight: so why does the test fail, needs a re-boot
[01:20] <gizmo_the_great1> darksmiley: for security reasons wipe the disk using shred or something. They cannot be recovered easily, but they can be recovered
[01:20] <xtknight> phr34ck: do you have dapper or edgy?
[01:20] <bds> nick_p: sweet, I am looking to buy a macbook pro and load ubuntu on it in the spring
[01:20] <nick_p> bds: and most important test of all: porn videos work
[01:21] <phr34ck> dapper
[01:21] <darksmiley> i can't wipe the disk it is my main disk
[01:21] <bds> nick_p: schwing :)
[01:21] <xtknight> Two-Six: im not sure, i've never used ndiswrapper sorry
[01:21] <darksmiley> i thought though, if i were to copy and paste a file over and over until the entire disk was full, and then remove all those files, it would cover up the deleted data right?
[01:22] <Two-Six> XT knight do you know anything about madwifi?  What are the diffrences between ndiswrapper, aceros drivers, mad wifi drivers??
[01:22] <binarydigit> darksmiley: you could run a free space secure wipe
[01:22] <xtknight> darksmiley: that's basically correct but people with way too much time on their hands can still recover it using the hard drive's magnetics
[01:22] <smo> hi
[01:22] <java_probs> so nobody knows anything about java problems in firefox?
[01:22] <smo> http://pastebin.com/849266   what s wrong with ati !!!
[01:22] <compengi> andre, if you got some missing packages while compiling then you should run "sudo apt-get build-dep amsn"
[01:22] <xtknight> Two-Six: sorry, i'm not sure, all i know is that ndiswrapper converts Windows drivers to linux ones, and the other two are native drivers
[01:22] <darksmiley> rofl xtknight
[01:23] <cyber_brain_mfkg> i have problem installing nvidia drivers(and nvidia-settings)! actually it says that cannot find .config in kernel source(something like that):S !!!someone?(i'm running  gentoo)!
[01:23] <darksmiley> what is a free space secure wipe? where can i get a program to do that?
[01:23] <Two-Six> XTknight: are they all drivers that do almost the same thing but with better support for different chipsets?
[01:23] <gizmo_the_great1> darksmiley: use 'shred'
[01:23] <xtknight> Two-Six: that's very likely.  what wireless card do you have?
[01:23] <gizmo_the_great1> darksmiley: altrhough that will wipe everything
[01:23] <darksmiley> oh, it has parameters for that?
[01:23] <andre> thanks will try
[01:24] <darksmiley> this is annoying! those files are tiiiiiny... lol
[01:24] <gizmo_the_great1> xtknight: not just people with spare time on their hands...forensic computing investigators too :-)
[01:24] <Two-Six> XTknight: well I have a Netgear WG311v2 and a D-Link PCMCIA DWL-G650+ hardware version B1
[01:24] <phr34ck> Guys, any good alternatives for gaim ?
[01:25] <AoA> hello, I was trying to compile and istall modem driver for intel 537 and this is my errors :http://pastebin.ca/299995 , can somebody help me ?
[01:25] <Two-Six> I really want to use aircrack,
[01:25] <doviende> phr34ck: which protocols do you use?
[01:25] <pike_> darksmiley: well like cat /dev/urandom > file; rm file. but id just make the stuff thats sensitive on a ext2 partition and use wipe or something to del.  ive never really worked with sensitive company stuff or anything myself
[01:25] <homemaus> \join
[01:25] <binarydigit> darksmiley: check out bcwipe
[01:25] <phr34ck> doviende, what do you mean ?>
[01:25] <binarydigit> it has a freespace secure wipe
[01:25] <darksmiley> thanks both of you, give me a moment to try
[01:25] <doviende> phr34ck: msn, icq, aol, jabber?
[01:26] <Two-Six> XTknight: But getting wifi radar to work right now would be good
[01:26] <phr34ck> owh hehe .. msn
[01:26] <_Neil_> Can someone help me? I want to install Ubuntu.
[01:26] <doviende> phr34ck: ok, there's a program called "amsn" that works pretty well
[01:26] <xtknight> Two-Six: i dont have much experience with wireless cards but i assume by radar you mean what detects access points?
[01:26] <phr34ck> doviende, thanks .. will give it a try
[01:27] <Two-Six> XTknight: yep, it's a native Ubuntu App
[01:27] <andre> compengi i dont understand about cd
[01:27] <Two-Six> wifi radar
[01:27] <phr34ck> Do you know how can I "clean" up my system?
[01:27] <derrik> _Neil_: Sure have you downloaded it?
[01:27] <phr34ck> After all those updates, installations and the like.
[01:27] <andre> sorry newbie
[01:27] <doviende> phr34ck: why, do you see something that's wrong?
[01:27] <bds> Two-Six: You can scan with 'sudo iwlist scan eth1'
[01:27] <compengi> andre, to enter a folder using a terminal you need to type "cd folder" in order to enter it
[01:28] <adorablepuppy> Need help.
[01:28] <phr34ck> doviende, no .. but I feel like I need to do something ... It's like I'm downloading 2, 3 programs for the same job
[01:28] <bds> Two-Six: Sorry that should be 'sudo iwlist eth1 scan'
[01:28] <doviende> !justask | adorablepuppy
[01:28] <fildo> hey guys if ive installed gnome by default. n wish to switch to kde, for default Desktop enviroment . would it be as simple as apt-get kubuntu-desktop . and how could i remove gnome
[01:28] <ubotu> adorablepuppy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:28] <andre> so it would be cd amsn-0.96
[01:28] <wastrel> !mp3
[01:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:28] <phr34ck> In windows, I used to clean the system with registry stuff and the like.
[01:28] <andre> in a terminal
[01:28] <compengi> andre, yeah
[01:28] <phr34ck> What do I do with Ubuntu >
[01:29] <andre> ok
[01:29] <Two-Six> BDS: I think I should change to eth1 to wlan or something
[01:29] <doviende> phr34ck: if you see some programs you don't want, then you can remove them
[01:29] <tritium> phr34ck: you don't have to do anything
[01:29] <doviende> personally i think you might be too paranoid ;)
[01:29] <phr34ck> doviende, I don't know how to remove programs ;p
[01:29] <bds> Two-Six: Sorry whatever your wireless adapter is
[01:29] <bds> Two-Six: for me it is eth1
[01:29] <phr34ck> yeah I know ;p
[01:29] <doviende> phr34ck: ok, what did you use to install programs?
[01:29] <adorablepuppy> I'm trying to use beryl. However, when I start it, it gives me errors even though my glxinfo | grep rendering says direct rendering: Yes.
[01:29] <phr34ck> Been using Windows all my life.
[01:29] <VerdRousseau> I just installed gtkwifi and its up on my panel but its having trouble connecting to my network (wireless works fine without applet)
[01:30] <superjoe> does anyone have time to help me w a wireless problem
[01:30] <phr34ck> apt-get
[01:30] <trev__> does anyoen here play vegastrike?
[01:30] <doviende> phr34ck: you can do    "apt-get remove somepackage" to remove it
[01:30] <maddash> frak me, where's h3xis?
[01:30] <Two-Six> BDS: no scanning supported right now
[01:30] <phr34ck> Here comes the tricky part ... I don't remember what I have on my system. That's why I want to clean. It's odd, I know.
[01:30] <phr34ck> So how do I know what programs I have installed ?
[01:31] <binarydigit> phr34ck: open synaptic and look through which are installed
[01:31] <adorablepuppy> You can use Synaptic package manager
[01:31] <bds> Two-Six: Is your wireless device working?
[01:31] <hendrickvp> HHHEEELLPPPP! I was using mysql admin, the program on my mac, and I accidently deleted my MySQL user database!
[01:31] <doviende> phr34ck: you could browse through stuff with a graphical program like Synaptic
[01:31] <superjoe> anyone hp laptop broadcom802.11 g wireless w linksys wrt54g cant connect
[01:31] <Two-Six> BDS: NO!!!! :-)
[01:31] <phr34ck> doviende, doesn't synaptic gives me the packages installed?
[01:31] <doviende> phr34ck: or in text mode you can do "dpkg -l" to list every single package installed
[01:31] <bds> Two-Six: Doh, sorry :0
[01:31] <Two-Six> BDS: sssssssssssOK
[01:31] <rendo> I'm currently using no-ip to have a dns resolver for my IP to host a MUD,  I'm wondering if anyone knows a way to get a URL redirecter to work with my IP as well?
[01:31] <compengi> phr34ck, yeah it does
[01:31] <doviende> phr34ck: yes, synaptic lists the packages installed, and can install new ones or remove stuff
[01:32] <hendrickvp> does anyone know how to recover the schema
[01:32] <adorablepuppy> anyone to help me with my beryl issues?
[01:32] <phr34ck> doviende, so programs are packages in herE>
[01:32] <phr34ck> each package is a program ?
[01:32] <binarydigit> hendrickvp: best bet might be the mysql channel
[01:32] <hendrickvp> k
[01:32] <Two-Six> BDS: I have been trying all week..But I might have cracked it, or something anyway, I did a thing and my PC did a thing and apparently if I re-boot it might do some more stuff
[01:32] <compengi> phr34ck, true
[01:32] <pike_> phr34ck: i do cat /var/lib/dpkg/status | grep Package:| sed 's\Package:\\' i think
[01:32] <adorablepuppy> Nobody answers in the beryl channel
[01:33] <superjoe> can anyone help w a wireles problem
[01:33] <doviende> phr34ck: packages are a nice way to keep track of all of the programs and libraries that are installed.   it's like "Add/Remove Programs" in windows, but better
[01:33] <pike_> phr34ck: dpkg is little more sensible though :)
[01:33] <Two-Six> super joe: fraid not
[01:33] <phr34ck> pike_,  I don't even know what dpkg is ;p
[01:33] <arrenlex> !dpkg | phr34ck
[01:33] <ubotu> phr34ck: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[01:33] <drbreen> anyone can tell me where to find builds (deb packages) of OLPC sugar for {k|x}ubuntu ? i have isdn and an 133mhz cpu so compiling is out.
[01:33] <doviende> phr34ck: sometimes in windows, you install a program and it doesn't show up in "Add/Remove Programs".  in ubuntu, if you always install software using packages, then it's very easy to remove it later too
[01:34] <superjoe> anyone else hp laptop broadcom 802.11g w linksy wrt54g v6
[01:34] <pike_> lol im always cat'ing | grep instead of just grep
[01:34] <doviende> superjoe: just ask your question
[01:34] <doviende> superjoe: having trouble getting your broadcom working?
[01:34] <tim167> i'm trying to simply print a small photo, it's driving me NUTS! can someone help me get printer settings right ? thanks
[01:34] <MisterRoper> Anyone know why emacs is only displaying block characters?
[01:34] <wastrel> my xmms is broken
[01:35] <doviende> MisterRoper: "block characters"?
[01:35] <superjoe> no works great in windows xp, just dont know how to connect in kubuntu
[01:35] <Two-Six> superjo:  I have been having lots of stress getting my linux machines to wirelessly network, it's a HORRIBLY tricky
[01:35] <MisterRoper> doviende: It's just displaying boxes for all the characters
[01:35] <djm62> tim167: what's going wrong?
[01:35] <phr34ck> I See.
[01:35] <arrenlex> !doesn't work | tim167
[01:35] <ubotu> tim167: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[01:35] <doviende> MisterRoper: perhaps a font problem?
[01:36] <phr34ck> so apt uses dpkg to install stuff.
[01:36] <doviende> MisterRoper: what version of emacs?
[01:36] <linuxnewbie756> http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10803 ,look at the bottom where it mentions system requirments, when you download it, its a rpm, but it says ubuntu "6.6" is supported
[01:36] <arrenlex> phr34ck: Correct
[01:36] <arrenlex> !alien | linuxnewbie756
[01:36] <ubotu> linuxnewbie756: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[01:36] <zRaf> hello, I'm trying to getting work mod_rewrite in Ubuntu  with Apache2, but I can't. I have symlinked rewrite.load to mods-enabled, I have created a .htaccess with RewriteEngine On, an nothing seems to work, please help
[01:36] <MisterRoper> doviende: version 21.4.1
[01:36] <tim167> i need the photo to be printed small, i can only det it to print small when i print from Gimp, but there are no settings for the print quality, it automatically prints in draft quality, i can find these settings nowhere (HP PSC1510)
[01:36] <doviende> phr34ck: ya, apt knows how to find packages on the ubuntu website and download them, and then technically uses dpkg behind the scenes
[01:36] <phr34ck> I see.
[01:37] <doviende> MisterRoper: and you just installed it?  or did it just start doing this recently?
[01:37] <linuxnewbie756> so, what happens if it alien doesn't work out quite right? whats the worse that could happen?
[01:37] <Two-Six> XTknight-BDS:  Thanks.  GOing to re boot now and see what stuff I can do afterwards.
[01:37] <phr34ck> yeah, I did configure the /etc/apt/sources.list once.
[01:37] <tim167> if I print the photo from the default picture viewer in ubuntu it prints the photo on a full page, which also isnt what I need
[01:37] <linuxnewbie756> if the packages don't work, can't i just uninstall the package?
[01:37] <phr34ck> I wanted to list my external hdd in there, but I couldn't figure it out
[01:37] <arrenlex> linuxnewbie756: The worst that could happen is that the program won't work.
[01:37] <arrenlex> linuxnewbie756: Yes you can.
[01:37] <doviende> tim167: maybe use gimp to scale the picture down to lower resolution?
[01:37] <MisterRoper> doviende: It started doing it recently, it was working fine
[01:37] <zRaf> A very strange way to work of my apache is the next: If I have a http://myFile.php and I write down http://myFile (without extension), Apache2 shows me myFile.php :O why?
[01:37] <Davo_Dinkum> When I play XVID encoded files in VLC 0.8.6, I get sound but no video. How can I fix this? Error messages here: http://pastebin.com/849279
[01:38] <linuxnewbie756> sudo apt-get install alien?
[01:38] <hassan2a> ya des franais ?
[01:38] <arrenlex> !fr | hassan2a
[01:38] <ubotu> hassan2a: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:38] <tim167> doviende: i did try to set 'print size' in Gimp and save the pic, but it still prints pull page
[01:38] <doviende> MisterRoper: my bet is that it's either a font problem or an encoding problem (like unicode or something)
[01:38] <doviende> MisterRoper: maybe ask in #emacs?
[01:38] <hassan2a> arrenlex i have a problem with windows so.
[01:38] <arrenlex> Davo_Dinkum: Please don't ever use pastebin.com again.
[01:38] <superjoe> doviende, how do I connect to the internet via wireless router
[01:39] <MisterRoper> doviende: Ok I'll check in #emacs thanks
[01:39] <arrenlex> hassan2a: Then why are you in #ubuntu?
[01:39] <pike_> superjoe: using command line?
[01:39] <tim167> doviende: i'll try to downscale the picture itself, but still i need to set the printer to print at highest quality, not draft, because there are horizontal lines in the photo like this
[01:39] <hassan2a> lol
[01:39] <doviende> superjoe: ok, open a terminal and type "sudo iwlist scanning" and tell me if it detects any access points there
[01:39] <phr34ck> So why dpkg is not standarized for Linux ?
[01:40] <darksmiley> HOORAY! i found a disk free space wiping tool! for any of you that might also be interested, it's called Scrub, and is available at sourceforge
[01:40] <doviende> tim167: ya, figure out the resolution of the printer, and then change the number of pixels in the photo to be the right amount
[01:40] <darksmiley> later duuuudes =)
[01:40] <nilsl> phr34ck: Because it's for Debian.
[01:40] <tim167> what program lets me change ALL settings for my printer (hp PSC1510 ) before printing ?
[01:40] <wastrel> is there a way to tell why these mp3's i just ripped don't play in xmms while other mp3's do?
[01:40] <phr34ck> Debian is a unix distro., no ?>
[01:40] <doviende> tim167: if you set the dpi for what the printer has, then you can resize the photo using the size rulers in gimp
[01:40] <arrenlex> phr34ck: The fact that the acronym comes from "debian package" might give you a hint. :)
[01:40] <wastrel> file says it's an mp3 file...
[01:40] <Davo_Dinkum> arrenlex: Why not?
[01:40] <arrenlex> !debian | phr34ck
[01:40] <nilsl> phr34ck: A linux distro.
[01:40] <ubotu> phr34ck: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[01:40] <arrenlex> Davo_Dinkum: Because it doesn't work.
[01:40] <doviende> tim167: if it knows the dpi then you can size it by inches or whatever
[01:41] <arrenlex> Davo_Dinkum: It's still loading for me.
[01:41] <phr34ck> and I thought that Debian is unix ... silly me.
[01:41] <arrenlex> Davo_Dinkum: Use pastebin.ca or ubuntu's pastebin
[01:41] <Music_Shuffle> arrenlex, loaded for me.
[01:41] <Music_Shuffle> Except, I have no idea what his error is, so I can't help any. :X
[01:41] <Music_Shuffle> Or rather, how to fix it*
[01:41] <Davo_Dinkum> arrenlex: OK
[01:41] <doviende> phr34ck: unix gets used as a generic term.  so linux is sorta like a type of unix
[01:41] <linuxnewbie756> so, after i install alien, how do i convert these two packages?
[01:41] <superjoe> doviende says interface doesnt support scanning for everthing
[01:42] <phr34ck> doviende, I know that Linux is a decended of Unix. Since Unix is used on servers.
[01:42] <tim167> doviende: yes I can figure that out i guess, but i also need to set the printer to highest quality (slowest) printing, and i dont find any setting for that in Gimp nor in imageviewer
[01:42] <doviende> superjoe: ok, then you have a driver problem of some kind
[01:42] <arrenlex> doviende: That's totally wrong. Linux is a clone of unix. It is NOT a unix, as SCO found out the hard way.
[01:42] <Davo_Dinkum> arrenlex: Better?: http://pastebin.ca/300028
[01:42] <doviende> tim167: are you using gnome?
[01:42] <arrenlex> Davo_Dinkum: Lots, but I'm not familiar with VLC, so I can't help you much anyway :) Is this only one file or any xvid file?
[01:42] <tim167> doviende : yes
[01:42] <doviende> tim167: maybe try gnome-cups-manager or something
[01:43] <gizmo_the_great1> I have some avi files on my computer. Some play, while others do not and Ubuntu is unable to generate a thumbnail either. I have installed codecs etc in line with suggestions at ubuntuforums.org. But still no go. Any ideas?
[01:43] <Gunnar> Q: Anyone gotten kernel 2.6.19.1 to work?  I get a strange message on boot, then after a little while a Busybox prompt? Ideas?
[01:43] <pike_> phr34ck: linux was built with unix in mind but isnt a direct decendant. theyre like fraternal twin cousins by marriage :)
[01:43] <arrenlex> Davo_Dinkum: You could also try mplayer because it prints a lot of very helpful debugging information.
[01:43] <timo901> How dose one use wine. i am not used to this kind of wine is new to me
[01:43] <doviende> tim167: System -> Printing or something
[01:43] <Davo_Dinkum> arrenlex: Any XVID file I think
[01:43] <phr34ck> pike_,  that's a good expression ;p
[01:43] <arrenlex> Davo_Dinkum: Is this file available for download? I'd like to see if I can play it.
[01:43] <kitche> timo901: type wine /path/to/exe
[01:43] <java_probs> how do you delete a file from the command prompt?
[01:43] <arrenlex> java_probs: rm <file>
[01:44] <drbreen> timo901: wine myprogram.exe
[01:44] <java_probs> arrenlex: thanks
[01:44] <xtknight> Gunnar: i'm running 2.6.19.1 now on Edgy
[01:44] <phr34ck> so when I create a file on my desktop, in which folder is it created?>
[01:44] <phr34ck> /usr/ something >?
[01:44] <arrenlex> phr34ck: ~/Desktop
[01:44] <timo901> Ok i will try it agian
[01:44] <tim167> doviende: gnome-cups-manager looks like  what i need, but no quality selections at first sight...
[01:44] <phr34ck> ~ = ?
[01:44] <kitche> phr34ck: /home/<use>
[01:44] <arrenlex> phr34ck: ~ = home
[01:45] <arrenlex> phr34ck: So like /home/bob if you were bob
[01:45] <markus_nagler> anyone familiar with Murrine in here? I get an error trying to compile it.
[01:45] <Gunnar> xtknight: Where did you find the deb files?  or did you complie your self?
[01:45] <gizmo_the_great1> I have some avi files on my computer. Some play, while others do not and Ubuntu is unable to generate a thumbnail either. I have installed codecs etc in line with suggestions at ubuntuforums.org. But still no go. I have also tried using Totem, MPlayer and VLC. None of them can play several of these avi's, while others are fine? Any ideas?
[01:45] <superjoe> doviende, I have package installed called windows wireless network drivers,
[01:45] <phr34ck> I see.
[01:45] <arrenlex> phr34ck: Don't tell me you've been typing "/home/bob" in the shell every time? :)
[01:45] <tim167> doviende: oops, yes its there thanks...now I'm getting somewhere
[01:45] <xtknight> Gunnar: i compiled them myself but i have the debs here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326343
[01:45] <phr34ck> arrenlex, hehehehe.
[01:45] <linuxnewbie756> how does one use more than one of them little things in terminal? for example, -k keeps version, -s includes scripts, i want to do both, would it be -ks, or -k -s
[01:45] <phr34ck> Of course not ;p
[01:45] <timo901> XEROX-ICUTE:~$ wine GTR2.exewine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\GTR2.exe": Module not found
[01:45] <phr34ck> I was wondering where they're located.
[01:45] <superjoe> doviende should I use this to install new driver or configure network
[01:45] <Gunnar> xtknight : Thanks will check them out.
[01:45] <nn531> how big of a bitch is it to configure my ipod in ubuntu?
[01:45] <doviende> superjoe: if you have a broadcom card then you probably have to go to ubuntuforums.org an search for broadcom
[01:46] <pike_> gizmo_the_great1: the command "file whatever.avi" might give you more info on the file type
[01:46] <arrenlex> linuxnewbie756: They're called command switches, and either way will work for most programs.
[01:46] <gizmo_the_great1> pike_: i will try that and come back..
[01:46] <phr34ck> how can I echo the path of the current directory ?
[01:46] <arrenlex> !ipod | nn531
[01:46] <doviende> superjoe: it seems that many people are having problems with broadcom cards, but there are some step-by-step instructions on ubuntuforums.org
[01:46] <ubotu> nn531: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[01:46] <xtknight> Gunnar: you can just download the debs and disregard the rest of the core 2 duo info if youre not using a Core 2 Duo system
[01:46] <gizmo_the_great1> phr34ck: pwd
[01:46] <xtknight> Gunnar: they should function normally on other systems
[01:46] <tim167> doviende: so if i make settings in this cups-manager, will every program that wants to print use these settings ?
[01:46] <nolimitsoya> timo901, you need to be in the same dir as the file you want to execute
[01:46] <Davo_Dinkum> arrenlex: No it's not sorry :(
[01:46] <phr34ck> so is that like a Linux command or bash >?
[01:46] <doviende> tim167: i think so.  cups is the printer management system that sends things to the printer
[01:47] <timo901> nolimitsoya:ok thanks
[01:47] <doviende> tim167: so everything should go through that i thnk
[01:47] <wastrel> sound juicer isn't working
[01:47] <arrenlex> phr34ck: The ~ thing? It's simply notation. It means "home of the current user".
[01:47] <Gunnar> xtknight : OK Will do.
[01:47] <arrenlex> phr34ck: It has to mean that in any posix-compliant shells.
[01:47] <tim167> doviende: trying now, i'll let you know ... :p
[01:47] <nolimitsoya> timo901, or, you can use a path: wine path/to/the/file/you/want.exe
[01:47] <phr34ck> I was talking about the pwd command./
[01:47] <Davo_Dinkum> arrenlex: Besides the file is 175MB
[01:47] <arrenlex> phr34ck: Oh, pwd is part of Linux. It's a command.
[01:48] <timo901> i see ,
[01:48] <dead_im> hi
[01:48] <gizmo_the_great1> pike_: Does this tell you anything? "NewYear06003.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 720 x 576, 25.00 fps,"
[01:48] <phr34ck> Any idea on where I can find a list of useful commands?
[01:48] <arrenlex> Davo_Dinkum: I could help you if you installed mplayer-nogui and tried to play that file, and pastebinned all the output.
[01:48] <gizmo_the_great1> phr34ck: linuxcommand.org
[01:48] <phr34ck> gizmo_the_great1, meh !
[01:48] <arrenlex> Davo_Dinkum: But I'm really not familiar with VLC< sorry.
[01:48] <Davo_Dinkum> arrenlex: apt-get mplayer-nogui then?
[01:48] <Zambezi> Is it a bad idea to chose Yes here? http://pastebin.ca/300042
[01:48] <arrenlex> Davo_Dinkum: It's in multiverse. You'd need that repo.
[01:49] <timo901> XEROX-ICUTE:/media/window/GTR2$ wine gtr2.exe
[01:49] <timo901> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[01:49] <timo901> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[01:49] <tim167> doviende: finally, it worked, thanks!!
[01:49] <timo901> ok paste bin next time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:49] <arrenlex> timo901: That is an aesthetic error which is an artefact of the incompleteness of open-source drivers, and can be safely ignored.
[01:49] <Davo_Dinkum> arrenlex: Why does it need to remove mplayer?
[01:49] <xtknight> holy netsplit batman
[01:50] <Davo_Dinkum> arrenlex: Also it suggested thse packages: Suggested packages: w32codecs libdvdcss
[01:50] <arrenlex> ...you have mplayer installed?! xD Well then why are we doing this?! Play it with mplayer and pastebin the output
[01:50] <gizmo_the_great1> has the IRC server just rebooted or something? I have pages of people quitting and then rejoining?
[01:50] <superjoe> doviende, thanks, I look into the forum and see how it works
[01:50] <arrenlex> !netsplit | gizmo_the_great1
[01:50] <ubotu> gizmo_the_great1: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[01:51] <xtknight> gizmo_the_great1: its an irc server lag problem, disregard it
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> gizmo_the_great1, has to
[01:51] <arrenlex> DUDE
[01:51] <arrenlex> "when two IRC servers of the same network disconnect from each other" totally reminds me of the birds&bees talk o__o
[01:51] <xtknight> lol
[01:51] <Gunnar> xtknight :  Rebooting now.   Hope for the best!!!
[01:51] <xtknight> Gunnar: you can always use your old kernel if it fail..... never mind hes gone :P
[01:52] <timo901> arrenlex: i see but my gtr2.exe still hasn't launched
[01:52] <arrenlex> timo901: Sorry, what were we talking about?
[01:52] <Headcrab> HOLY DAMN!
[01:52] <Headcrab> there's alot of ppl here
[01:52] <arrenlex> Headcrab: It's actually pretty small for #ubuntu. We just had a netsplit.
[01:53] <arrenlex> Headcrab: Usually > 900.
[01:53] <Headcrab> O.O
[01:53] <Headcrab> wow
[01:54] <timo901> arrenlex:its ok i will just use windows xp pro for my gaming seems more easy :-D
[01:54] <arrenlex> timo901: Good plan.
[01:55] <timo901> arrenlex:thanks
[01:56] <cybercod> timo901... thats about all its good for with me... games
[01:56] <linuxnewbie756> ok, i converted the lightscribe files to deb. they seem to be ok. the program detects the drive and the disk in it. when i go to print, it says 'printing requires root priveleges" how is this fixable?
[01:56] <VerdRousseau> can anyone recommend a good wireless GUI besides net manager and gtkwifi
[01:56] <pike_> VerdRousseau: ive heard people recommend wifi-radar but never used it
[01:56] <cybercod> Verd, you could try the kde ones..
[01:57] <VerdRousseau> would the kde ones work okay on gnome
[01:57] <pike_> VerdRousseau: whats wrong with iwlist iwconfig dhclient? without the frontends :)
[01:58] <clearzen> If you have a directory full of zipped files and you want to unzip all of them recursively and then delete the source file what command would I use to accomplish that?
[01:58] <VerdRousseau> I like to have nice to look at :)
[01:58] <clearzen> in the terminal??
[01:58] <noiesmo> VerdRousseau, kde apps will work in gnome you will just have extra packages installed on system
[01:58] <cybercod> verd, yes, they'd just load the kde libraries for the duration of their use
[01:58] <VerdRousseau> you think its worth it for me to also install kde
[01:58] <cybercod> verd, you used kde before?
[01:59] <VerdRousseau> In backtrack I have
[01:59] <noiesmo> VerdRousseau, upto you I prefer kde but its a personnal choice
[01:59] <cybercod> then its up to you...
[01:59] <VerdRousseau> naiesmo- do you have it on ubuntu
[01:59] <VerdRousseau> or do u have kubuntu
[01:59] <VerdRousseau> also didnt really get to fool around it on backtrack
[01:59] <cybercod> installing kubuntu-desktop meta package give you essentially the same thing
[02:00] <drivingmenuts> hello
[02:00] <pike_> clearzen: for i in ls; do unzip $i;rm $i; done or something
[02:00] <drivingmenuts> what's the difference betwwen dapper and edgy
[02:00] <lufis> drivingmenuts: Dapper is more stable
[02:00] <VerdRousseau> if I went about installing kde would I install the kubuntu package or just kde
[02:00] <noiesmo> VerdRousseau, I installed edubuntu originally then just added the extra's the base systems are the same for (*)ubuntu
[02:00] <arrenlex> drivingmenuts: dapper isn't getting any new package versions. Just bugfixes.
[02:00] <drivingmenuts> what would be better?
[02:00] <drivingmenuts> beryl and xgl?
[02:00] <lufis> drivingmenuts: depends on what you want
[02:00] <cybercod> verd... kubuntu-desktop package installs all needed packages for kde
[02:00] <arrenlex> drivingmenuts: Depends what you need. For a server, dapper. For a desktop, edgy.
[02:00] <Tann> I still need help
[02:01] <drivingmenuts> beryl and xgl?
[02:01] <pike_> clearzen: sorry for i in `ls`; do whatever done;
[02:01] <cybercod> verd.  then you change your session at the login
[02:01] <VerdRousseau> the extra desktop doesnt take up much space so I guess its worth it to have on the system
[02:01] <clearzen> pike_: Thanks
[02:01] <Tann> How do you setup a network connction using ndiswrapper
[02:01] <drivingmenuts> does beryl and xgl function same on daper and edgy?
[02:01] <diskus> drivingmenuts: yes and no
[02:01] <drivingmenuts> huh
[02:01] <Headcrab> tar: test1.so: Cannot change ownership to uid 1000, gid 100: Operation not permitted
[02:01] <noiesmo> drivingmenuts, edgy has aiglx by default but you can add xgl
[02:01] <cybercod> tann... ndiswrapper just installs the hardware drivers, you still need to set up the network settings in "Networking"
[02:02] <Headcrab> hey, I get this:tar: test1.so: Cannot change ownership to uid 1000, gid 100: Operation not permitted and I am root, so I dunno what is causing it.
[02:02] <diskus> drivingmenuts: it's alpha state software, sometimes people can't get it to work at all
[02:02] <wastrel> !mp3
[02:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:02] <Tann> sorry, bad wording
[02:02] <Headcrab> hey, I get this:tar: test1.so: Cannot change ownership to uid 1000, gid 100: Operation not permitted and I am root, so I dunno what is causing it.
[02:02] <Tann> umm
[02:02] <kitche> !repeat|Headcrab
[02:02] <ubotu> Headcrab: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:02] <drivingmenuts> does anyone know about error soft lock up cpu#0?
[02:02] <Headcrab> !patience
[02:02] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:02] <Headcrab> -.- g2g
[02:02] <kitche> Headcrab: anyways what is that library for usually libraries are just owned by root
[02:03] <VerdRousseau> http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[02:03] <cybercod> Tann?
[02:03] <Tann> how do you setup a connection to a wireless network using hardware that was installed through ndiswrapper
[02:03] <Gunnar> xtknight:  I tried to install the NVIDIA software (the one that you download from nvidia.com) and it gave me some errors and didn't install.  I did find the version I had previously installed.  Ideas?
[02:03] <cybercod> tann.  ubuntu or kubuntu?
[02:03] <drivingmenuts> does anyone know about error code soft lock up?
[02:03] <Tann> ubuntu
[02:04] <noiesmo> Gunnar, sounds like you dont have kernel headers to match your current running kernel
[02:04] <jeff_>  such a program for hotpluging eth0 in 6.10
[02:04] <drivingmenuts> does anyone know about error soft lock up cpu#0?
[02:04] <cybercod> tann  once the hardware is installed, you will have a wireless device showing up in "Networking"   ..... wlan0
[02:04] <noiesmo> !envy | Gunnar
[02:04] <ubotu> Gunnar: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[02:04] <lufis> drivingmenuts: in what context?
[02:04] <drivingmenuts> in any fix?
[02:04] <Gunnar> noiesmo : Thanks I look there.
[02:04] <drivingmenuts> help for fixing it?
[02:05] <jeff_> just got my ACER 5101  Atheros AR5005G wireless working in 6.1!
[02:05] <jeff_> laptop
[02:06] <lufis> woot
[02:06] <jrattner> Question: When I "Suspend" my laptop does my Internet connection remain active?
[02:06] <drivingmenuts> does anyone use wireless 3945abg?
[02:06] <jeff_> took a little time but its working like a champ
[02:06] <kitche> jrattner: no it doesn't even remind active in windows
[02:06] <jrattner> Is there a way to make it remain active
[02:06] <jeff_> is there a program that does a HOTPLUG thing with ETH0
[02:07] <drivingmenuts> can anyone help me how to intall beryl on dapper?
[02:07] <jeff_> Ive seen ifplugd but not availabe in Ubuntu
[02:07] <drivingmenuts> is there any picture following installations?
[02:07] <lufis> drivingmenuts: there are lots of guides on ubuntuforums.org
[02:07] <drivingmenuts> lufis
[02:07] <drivingmenuts> may i ask u a question
[02:07] <lufis> drivingmenuts: one sec, lemme see if i can find one
[02:07] <crimsun> !ifplugd
[02:07] <ubotu> ifplugd: A configuration daemon for ethernet devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.28-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 57 kB, installed size 280 kB
[02:08] <noiesmo> drivingmenuts, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Main_Page
[02:08] <drivingmenuts> it gives the codes right
[02:08] <wastrel> oookeydokey
[02:08] <drivingmenuts> what do i do with them?
[02:08] <erudified> How can I get rid of the black outline that shows up when I launch an application? (6.10, Gnome)
[02:08] <jeff_> ubotu, thanks
[02:08] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:08] <VerdRousseau> with KDE is the chat, word processors, and other stuff gonna be different
[02:09] <lufis> erudified: the animation?
[02:09] <jeff_> ubotu, ok BOT
[02:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok BOT - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:09] <jeff_> never mind
[02:09] <drivingmenuts> lufis
[02:09] <drivingmenuts> lufis are u a bot
[02:09] <drivingmenuts> is everyone here a bot?
[02:09] <lufis> drivingmenuts: lol no. are you?
[02:09] <drivingmenuts> oh.;
[02:09] <erudified> lufis, yeah, it expands to the size of the window
[02:09] <arrenlex> drivingmenuts: I think you're nuts.
[02:09] <drivingmenuts> yeah thanks
[02:09] <lufis> :P
[02:09] <drivingmenuts> is there anyway to install dapper first
[02:09] <wastrel> i am annoyed
[02:09] <lufis> drivingmenuts: what do you mean?
[02:10] <jeff_> sort of like a telephone with menus, never a human to talk too
[02:10] <drivingmenuts> then upgrade to edgy?
[02:10] <drivingmenuts> cuz i can't even boot up with edgy to start install it
[02:10] <lufis> drivingmenuts: hmm
[02:10] <erudified> drivingmenuts, something like apt-get dist-upgrade? =P
[02:10] <lufis> drivingmenuts: what happens when you boot?
[02:10] <drivingmenuts> like when i try to install it by booting it from cd
[02:10] <drivingmenuts> i get this error code SOFT LOCK UP CPU#0
[02:10] <drivingmenuts> and it freeze
[02:11] <sergio_> anyone using faisty?
[02:11] <drivingmenuts> so i can't even boot to install
[02:11] <jeff_> how do you add component universe to ubuntu?
[02:11] <jeff_> dont see it?
[02:11] <lufis> drivingmenuts: i don't know myself, but i've had some problems with edgy. you'd probably be better off with dapper
[02:11] <drivingmenuts> dapper?
[02:11] <drivingmenuts> but i want cool effects like
[02:11] <lufis> drivingmenuts: the eyecandy runs on dapper too
[02:11] <timo902> im timo901 whats going on ?
[02:11] <drivingmenuts> beryl
[02:11] <drivingmenuts> oh ok
[02:11] <drivingmenuts> so just dapper eh
[02:11] <drivingmenuts> i se
[02:12] <FreshPrince> hi guys
[02:12] <lufis> drivingmenuts: yeah, it'd be the safe bet
[02:12] <FreshPrince> where do i start ssh ?
[02:12] <drivingmenuts> lufis
[02:12] <drbreen> eyecandy dapper howto ?
[02:12] <FreshPrince> which path ?
[02:12] <hassan2a> Hello all
[02:12] <hassan2a> happy holidays
[02:12] <lufis> FreshPrince: /usr/bin?
[02:12] <hassan2a> hello lufis
[02:12] <kitche> FreshPrince: the sshd or ssh
[02:12] <FreshPrince> lufis, huch?
[02:13] <FreshPrince> sshd
[02:13] <lufis> FreshPrince: what?
[02:13] <phr34ck> sudo -K
[02:13] <FreshPrince> something like
[02:13] <drivingmenuts> hey lufis
[02:13] <phr34ck> meh, wrong window ;p
[02:13] <lufis> drivingmenuts: yes?
[02:13] <drivingmenuts> lufis how do i install beryl on the dapper
[02:13] <FreshPrince> /etc/blabla/ssh start
[02:13] <drivingmenuts> like im not sure waht to do
[02:13] <kitche> FreshPrince: /etc/init.d/sshd start should start it should start on bootup
[02:13] <lufis> drivingmenuts: I don't know right off the top of my head :P let me find a guide
[02:13] <welly> Hi all.. I want to upgrade from breezy to the latest ubuntu release.. what will i need to do?
[02:13] <arrenlex> !upgrade | welly
[02:13] <FreshPrince> kitche, bingoooo thats it thanks
[02:13] <ubotu> welly: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:13] <drivingmenuts> thanks lufis
[02:13] <welly> cheers! :)
[02:14] <kitche> welly: you will have to update to dapper unless you want some breakage
[02:14] <welly> ok
[02:14] <welly> i don't want breakage :)
[02:14] <lufis> drivingmenuts: ok, try this http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/AiGLX
[02:14] <welly> can i then upgrade dapper to edgy afterwards?
[02:14] <lufis> welly: yes
[02:14] <welly> cool
[02:14] <wastrel> bah sound juicer is useless
[02:15] <drivingmenuts> lufis still waiting for guide buddy
[02:15] <lufis> drivingmenuts: i just linked you to one
[02:15] <drivingmenuts> oh thank you
[02:15] <drivingmenuts> im blind
[02:15] <lufis> :)
[02:15] <drivingmenuts> i can't read english
[02:15] <drivingmenuts> damn thanks
[02:15] <lufis> it's ok
[02:15] <drivingmenuts> i want to install beryl with xgl T.T
[02:15] <`Vision> for someone completely new to linux, would you recommend edgy or dapper? It's going to be used as a lamp server
[02:16] <BiNz> i need help mounting my ipod
[02:16] <drivingmenuts> lufis can u please link me the beryl with xgl?
[02:16] <lufis> vision: you'd be better off with dapper
[02:16] <lufis> drivingmenuts: just use google
[02:16] <Headcrab> Is there a better flavor of linux for a server - running in a 733MhZ w/ 256MB ram - than Ubuntu that anyone know?
[02:16] <drivingmenuts> what do i do with all the codes?
[02:16] <`Vision> thanks lufis
[02:16] <wastrel> !best
[02:16] <lufis> drivingmenuts: what do you mean? the commands?
[02:16] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:16] <BiNz> how do i find out what my mount point is for my ipod?
[02:16] <drivingmenuts> yes
[02:16] <drivingmenuts> what do i do with all the commands from that link u gave me
[02:17] <Headcrab> !bestdistro
[02:17] <lufis> drivingmenuts: copy and paste them into the terminal
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bestdistro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <Headcrab> !bestlinux
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bestlinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <drivingmenuts> ok thanks man
[02:17] <lufis> no prob
[02:17] <arrenlex> How do I use dd to copy 500kb of a file to another file?
[02:17] <arrenlex> Or other common utility?
[02:17] <kitche> Headcrab: slackware more advance though is good for servers
[02:17] <lufis> drivingmenuts: the terminal is under Applications > Accessories
[02:17] <kitche> arrenlex: probably cat file >> otherfile
[02:17] <arrenlex> kitche: I only want the first 500kb
[02:17] <wastrel> arrenlex:  head
[02:18] <kitche> arrenlex: hmm then not sure
[02:18] <drivingmenuts> thanks lufis
[02:18] <drivingmenuts> i love you baby
[02:18] <arrenlex> wastrel: How would I use head in that?
[02:18] <lufis> love you too
[02:18] <dev> man head
[02:18] <dev> :D
[02:18] <kitche> since dd won't help you either probably arrenlex
[02:18] <wastrel> there's args to give it the # of bytes or # of chars or # of lines, etc.
[02:18] <drivingmenuts> wanna make out lufis
[02:18] <ernz> Hello, can someone please explain why Totem is no longer able to play content over network shares, and how I might fix it?
[02:18] <lufis> drivingmenuts: not here ;)
[02:18] <drivingmenuts> hahah
[02:19] <drivingmenuts> so do i just type all that commands?
[02:19] <drivingmenuts> and it's gonna work?
[02:19] <lufis> drivingmenuts: well, paste them. typing would take forever
[02:19] <lufis> drivingmenuts: it should
[02:19] <drivingmenuts> ok
[02:19] <wastrel> i guess not the # of chars.
[02:19] <wastrel> theres -n for lines and -c for bytes
[02:19] <drivingmenuts> so can i install xgl and beryl all those stuff on dapper?
[02:19] <lufis> drivingmenuts: yep
[02:19] <arrenlex> wastrel: cat tigs.mp3 | head -c 500k tigs.mp3 > tigsshort
[02:19] <arrenlex> wastrel: Works for me.
[02:19] <ernz> Anyone know why that might be?
[02:19] <arrenlex> wastrel: But is there a better way?
[02:19] <drivingmenuts> so is it gonna work same way as in edgy?
[02:19] <Gunnar> Thanks all.  I am up and running 2.6.19.1 with Nvidia.
[02:20] <lufis> drivingmenuts: I don't know, eyecandy isn't really my thing. the guide i linked you to is official though, it should work fine
[02:20] <wastrel> you don't need the cat, head will read the file fine
[02:20] <drivingmenuts> waht's eye candy?
[02:20] <lufis> drivingmenuts: effects like beryl
[02:20] <name> hey
[02:20] <rendo> Can anyone direct me to a WORKING mysql setup guide because everyone I go to doesn't work and it gives me the same stupid errors of error: 'Access denied for user
[02:20] <drivingmenuts> oh ok
[02:20] <drivingmenuts> thanks baby
[02:20] <lufis> np
[02:20] <BiNz> hot chicks are eye candy
[02:20] <name> how can i disable the automounter
[02:20] <numist> ozzloy: HI!
[02:20] <name> and that "Blank disk inserted" dialog
[02:21] <arrenlex> wastrel: Ah... sorry, habit when using head. Thanks :)
[02:21] <ernz> Someone has to have seen this problem too?! It has only been a problem since I "upgraded" to Edgy from Dapper
[02:21] <lufis> ernz: I don't know, you might try VLC
[02:21] <name> ernz: you actually downgraded
[02:22] <ernz> name: I am starting to think so.
[02:22] <name> :)
[02:22] <name> http://segfaulthunter.se.ohost.de/bdisc.jpg
[02:22] <name> this annoys me
[02:22] <drivingmenuts> lufic
[02:22] <drivingmenuts> lufis
[02:22] <lufis> yah?
[02:22] <drivingmenuts> do u have msn?
[02:22] <drivingmenuts> messenger?
[02:22] <lufis> drivingmenuts: YES
[02:22] <name> real geeks use jabber
[02:22] <lufis> whoops, caps
[02:22] <drivingmenuts> can u add me?
[02:22] <lufis> sure
[02:22] <drivingmenuts> hiphop_mania@hotmail.com
[02:22] <drivingmenuts> thanks
[02:23] <drivingmenuts> do u have beryl installed on ur linux?
[02:23] <ernz> lufis: It has something to do with Samba, the only solution I can find is to mount that specific location and run it from the local mount dir - but this solution SUCKS!!!! and shouldn't be required at all.
[02:23] <lufis> drivingmenuts: nope. i did, but my hardware is too old for it
[02:23] <lufis> ernz: ah, sorry about that.
[02:23] <user-land> Hello, how can i take a screenshot of a contextual menu ?
[02:23] <name> noone can tell me how to disable that annoying crap? :)
[02:23] <ernz> lufis: No probs, anyone else have an idear?
[02:23] <lufis> user-land: the print screen button??
[02:24] <user-land> what crap ?
[02:24] <name> http://segfaulthunter.se.ohost.de/bdisc.jpg
[02:24] <Oni-Dracula> anyone know how to fix keyboard volume control doing nothing but displaying the on-screen volume bar?
[02:24] <drivingmenuts> lufis
[02:24] <drivingmenuts> u didn't add me yet
[02:24] <drivingmenuts> please add me baby
[02:24] <drivingmenuts> hiphop_
[02:24] <wastrel> name: system > preferences > removable drives and media
[02:24] <AoA> I have Edgy Eft and as I can see on packages.ubuntu.org I see there is package hddtemp, but there is no on my dvd ubuntu 6.10
[02:24] <drivingmenuts> thanks man
[02:24] <lufis> drivingmenuts: i did add you
[02:24] <drivingmenuts> what's ur email?
[02:24] <lufis> i authorized you
[02:24] <drivingmenuts> thanks
[02:25] <user-land> lufis, in xchat, when you control-click on a user and hover over the first entry, the nickname, to see the info, print-screen does not open the save dialogue for me.
[02:25] <name> thanks
[02:25] <lufis> user-land: gimp has a screenshot feature. try that i guess?
[02:25] <name> and one more thing
[02:25] <name> how to disable the auto update thing?
[02:26] <bieb> headcrab you can also use xubuntu for your server
[02:26] <user-land> oh, right, name, that dialogue is annoying :-)
[02:26] <wastrel> the synaptic applet thingy?  just right-click and remove it from the panel
[02:26] <linuxnewbie756> has anyone ever even heard of someone actually getting lightscribe to work correctly in ubuntu?
[02:26] <wastrel> hm no i'm wrong that's a systray thing.
[02:26] <user-land> lufis, how would that work while i am in xchat ?
[02:26] <wastrel> how about update notifier i think it's called
[02:26] <welly> oops.. just did an apt-get dist-upgrade and got - Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:26] <welly>  /var/cache/apt/archives/lvm2_2.02.02-1ubuntu1.2_i386.deb
[02:26] <welly> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:26] <lufis> user-land: it has a delay option
[02:26] <wastrel> !startup
[02:26] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[02:26] <user-land> aha, thanks lufis :-)
[02:27] <computermc> where can I download a OS X theme for Ubuntu?
[02:27] <arrenlex> welly: That's not good news.
[02:27] <lufis> user-land: click acquire, then screenshot, then set the amount of time you want it to wait
[02:27] <welly> arrenlex, i suspected not.. is it something to do with the repository perhaps?
[02:27] <arrenlex> welly: Run "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/lvm2_2.02.02-1ubuntu1.2_i386.deb" which will give you more verbose output. Pastebin that output.
[02:27] <name> hm
[02:27] <name> one more thing ;)
[02:27] <wastrel> name:  system > preferences > sessions > startup programs  remove update-notifier
[02:28] <name> how to disable that HTTP thing that is started sometimes?
[02:28] <lufis> computermc: there are lots of mac os theming guides on ubuntuforums.org, just do a search
[02:28] <lufis> name: http cache cleaner?
[02:28] <name> yes
[02:28] <lufis> name: i would like to know myself :P
[02:28] <name> bad
[02:28] <welly> arrenlex, http://rafb.net/p/GSyv7188.html
[02:29] <name> lufis: you found out which file it is?
[02:29] <name> the launcher?
[02:29] <timo902> any one know why i cant cd into a directory called  Program Files
[02:29] <lufis> name: i think it has something to do with running kde apps in gnome
[02:29] <name> how do you cd?
[02:29] <lufis> name: i only get it when i'm running amarok
[02:29] <timo902> cd /media/window/Program Files/
[02:29] <name> lol
[02:29] <timo902> what
[02:29] <name> cd "/media/window/Program Files/"
[02:29] <arrenlex> welly: Do you need lvm?
[02:29] <name> either
[02:29] <name> cd /media/window/Program\ Files/
[02:29] <spiggott> or put a backslash in frontof the space
[02:29] <name> or
[02:30] <welly> arrenlex, i couldn't tell you what lvm is so probably not
[02:30] <timo902> i see program/files ?
[02:30] <arrenlex> welly: Try removing it. It's broken. apt-get remove lvm2
[02:30] <name> lufis: you know im not sure about debian or ubuntu
[02:30] <name> need to re set the pc
[02:30] <name> for the file system is doown
[02:30] <lufis> name: why?
[02:30] <timo902> cd /media/window/Program\ Files/
[02:30] <timo902> didnt work
[02:30] <name> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[02:30] <user-land> great, lufis, it works, when selecting the whole screen, thanks :-)
[02:31] <lufis> user-land: yay, no problemo :)
[02:31] <welly> arrenlex, ok cool.. that looks like it's continuing the dist-upgrade now
[02:31] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[02:31] <welly> or did
[02:31] <SilentDis> !tor
[02:31] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[02:31] <dark_light> how can I make the default keyboard at console a.. default? i am configuring with sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data, but each time i reboot i have to reconfigure again!
[02:31] <timo902> cd "/media/window/Program Files/" worked :)
[02:31] <Hugh> hello
[02:31] <name> is there any tool like gentoo's rc-update?
[02:32] <name> it owns
[02:32] <flac0x> hello
[02:32] <spiggott> update-rc.d ?
[02:32] <SilentDis> timo902, you can also escape the space with a \.  (cd /media/window/Program\ Files/) :)
[02:32] <name> its a tool for managing the runlevels
[02:32] <name> rc-update add default [program] 
[02:32] <SilentDis> name:  what does that tool do?
[02:32] <name> or
[02:32] <name> rc-update del default [program] 
[02:32] <name> i loved it :)
[02:32] <spiggott> name: update-rc.d does essentially the same thing in debian and ubuntu
[02:32] <LameBMX> timo901, id get used to the \[space]  technique .. cuz it works with everything lol
[02:32] <name> ohh
[02:33] <name> good to know dude
[02:33] <spiggott> I've always thought it was stupid that it ends in .d -- that to me always implies a directory
[02:33] <timo901> LameBMX: it didnt work for me
[02:33] <ernz> lufis: Hey, y'know what? Mounting network locations is not a bad idea at all. Now I can just set up nautilus launchers in my panel to all my Movies, Music, Documents and Share locations on various computers. Not bad at all....
[02:33] <LameBMX> thats really odd
[02:33] <timo901> cd "/media/window/Program Files/" works fo me
[02:33] <lufis> ernz: :)
[02:33] <name> but
[02:34] <ernz> 1 thing though... does ANYONE know how I can edit something called my "fstab" to add a mount option
[02:34] <name> if i add it to the startup will it be auto added to the shutdown/
[02:34] <spiggott> vi /etc/fstab
[02:34] <spiggott> as root
[02:34] <wastrel> !fstab
[02:34] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[02:34] <name> ernz: sudo [editor]  /etc/fstab
[02:34] <welly> ok.. looks like this upgrade has completed.. how can i check the distro version?
[02:34] <spiggott> substitute your favorite editor for "vi"
[02:34] <Hugh> or sudi gedit /etc/fstab
[02:34] <Hugh> *sudo
[02:34] <name> 53%
[02:34] <Hugh> sudo gedit /etc/fstab/ ;)
[02:34] <name> gonna fall asleep
[02:35] <PoLL> hello, i have lil question: i have a movie server running in the basement and id like to watch the movies over the network ... samba is up and running & a can acces all the files via nautilus, but mplayer vls and co can't play them
[02:35] <Hugh> sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf
[02:35] <SilentDis> PoLL, do you get an error when you open the file?
[02:35] <PoLL> yes
[02:35] <name> PoLL: codec?
[02:35] <wastrel> hi
[02:35] <Hugh> that is a really good substitute for rc-update
[02:35] <Hugh> sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf
[02:35] <cybercod> !nvidia
[02:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:35] <LameBMX> if i got a p4 desktop .. do i really need powernowd?
[02:36] <PoLL> i installed all the codecs
[02:36] <name> maybe it's a win only cod
[02:36] <SilentDis> PoLL, what is the error?
[02:36] <PoLL> no its avi
[02:36] <ernz> thanks spiggott/name: I am told here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311633&highlight=could+-read+from+resource >> to add the mount command  "sudo mount -t smbfs //aPC/toShare /media/theShare"
[02:36] <name> loool
[02:36] <name> avi
[02:36] <name> there are many "sorts" of avi
[02:36] <PoLL> xvid
[02:36] <name> better
[02:36] <name> and error
[02:36] <ernz> spiggott/name: Do I add the entire lot, or .. what?
[02:37] <PoLL> can't read from smb:// .....
[02:37] <name> exact error?
[02:37] <name> paste it
[02:37] <SilentDis> !enter | PoLL
[02:37] <ubotu> PoLL: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:37] <name> but i g2g soon
[02:37] <arrenlex> PoLL: I don't believe mplayer can read smb shares using the smb:// protocol. Mount the device.
[02:37] <kurisutofuaa> I am having problems getting my iPod to mount for me it is a U2 B&W click wheel (and yes a have used to forums but they didn't work)... It anyone would help me I would be great-full for the help.
[02:37] <name> plz stop that botting, it annoys me ^^
[02:37] <SilentDis> PoLL, can you give us the EXACT error you're getting, on one line?
[02:37] <timo901> Wellcome to the ubuntu help Desk !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:37] <PoLL> arrenlex: yes thats an idea
[02:38] <spiggott> enrz, that's how you mount it manually form the command prompt
[02:38] <DarkLegacy> Hey guys
[02:38] <name> you are nearly as bitchy as the reputation of the #debian.de guys
[02:38] <spiggott> what you enter in the file is a little different
[02:38] <DarkLegacy> I've got an application I want to install that's in RPM form
[02:38] <SilentDis> !language | name
[02:38] <ubotu> name: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:38] <DarkLegacy> How can I install a .rpm?
[02:38] <ernz> PoLL: We are totally having the same problem here! There is a solution to this bug at this web page: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311633&highlight=could+-read+from+resource
[02:38] <name> meee
[02:38] <SilentDis> !alien | DarkLegacy
[02:38] <ubotu> DarkLegacy: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:38] <name> can't stand that bot
[02:38] <arrenlex> name: #ubuntu? Really? From what I've seen on #debian they are total jerks. At least you can ASK things here.
[02:39] <PoLL> ernz: thx 4 the link
[02:39] <DarkLegacy> Ok, well how about the application in a .tar .gz
[02:39] <ernz> spiggott: Different how so?
[02:39] <arrenlex> If your question doesn't include anything in hexadecimal on #debian you get laughed at.
[02:39] <name> arrenlex: talking about .de
[02:39] <spiggott> give me a second
[02:39] <kitche> name: the bot is there so we don't have to anwser the same questions over and over in the same day
[02:39] <DarkLegacy> How can I install something from a .tar.gz?
[02:39] <ernz> PoLL: No probs, gimme a shout if you get stuck, and sorting out the fine points of it now.
[02:39] <ernz> spiggott, sure./
[02:39] <SilentDis> arrenlex, eh, i don't consider anyone "total jerks" in any FOSS community... some groups simply have a higher expectation of user knowledge ;)
[02:39] <name> kitche: but im annoyed of the enter, language etc things  ^^
[02:39] <Kingsqueak> DarkLegacy: what are you trying to install specifically?
[02:39] <spiggott> ernz, there is a commented line at the top of /etc/fstab that tells you what order to put things in
[02:39] <DarkLegacy> VMWare Tools
[02:39] <PoLL> SilentDis: this was the error gnome gave me, but i think ernz got the right link 4 me
[02:39] <spiggott> separated by spaces
[02:39] <kitche> DarkLegacy: tar -xvzf <file>.tar.gz it's mostly likely source code that you have to compile
[02:39] <name> I just said bitchy and bang bot's spamming again
[02:40] <name> it wastes more lines than my "enters"
[02:40] <DarkLegacy> I successfully installed Ubuntu and everything I wanted so far on it except for the VMWare Tools which are in a .tar.gz
[02:40] <DarkLegacy> Everything else comes in a .deb and is self-installing
[02:40] <SilentDis> PoLL, great, so long as someone was able to help you :)
[02:40] <ernz> spiggott: I don't know what all that stuff means, sorry :)
[02:40] <nolimitsoya> name, those are regular netiquette things. get used to it. its valid in every social situation
[02:40] <DarkLegacy> Cool, thanks Kitche
[02:41] <SilentDis> DarkLegacy, usually, a .tar.gz package has a make or install script bundled.  check if there's any README files in there, they'll explain it (each is different, there's no real 'standard')
[02:41] <timo901> i will now teach you how to cd into a directory , SO .... cd Desktop , You have now successfully cd onto the desktop :-D
[02:41] <nolimitsoya> name, may i also point out that the pupouse of keeping querys on one single line is to make things easy to follow, not simply keeping the number of posted lines to a minimum
[02:41] <ernz> spiggott: I am thick as hell, there was a link further down detailing the fine points: //servername/sharename /mountdirectory smbfs username=windowsuserename,password=windowspassword 0 0
[02:41] <spiggott> ernz: given your example, the line in /etc/fstab should read "//aPC/toShare /media/theShare smbfs rw 0 0"
[02:42] <spiggott> that's better
[02:42] <spiggott> I didn't have an example handy for smb logins
[02:42] <spiggott> that looks good, ernz
[02:42] <spiggott> (probably more appropriate than what I typed)
[02:42] <name> omg, anyway im out resetting computer, one last question, what FS would you suggest me, no NOT ext3, for gods sake not ext3
[02:42] <Headcrab> Finally - HL2DM server installing
[02:42] <ernz> Spiggott, apart from the login options, can I omit them?
[02:43] <name> im totally mad of ext3, it ruined my / partition
[02:43] <nolimitsoya> name, depends on your needs
[02:43] <SilentDis> name, what problems are you having with ext3?  seriously?  i've tried RiserFS, and while fast, a crash can sure ruin your day :P
[02:43] <name> it crashed
[02:43] <name> it ruined my /
[02:43] <name> I/O errors and stuff
[02:43] <spiggott> ernz, your smb server needs to know what you're logging in as, so I'd go with their example
[02:43] <name> and that happens the 2. time
[02:43] <ernz> spiggott: Double-LOL.... <i> Once again the username and password are only needed if the Windows share is set up to require them. </i>
[02:43] <nolimitsoya> name, i seriously doublt ext3 was at fault
[02:43] <name> what else, eh?
[02:44] <name> my /home is all right
[02:44] <nolimitsoya> name, user error or malfunctioning hardware
[02:44] <name> ext3 too
[02:44] <SilentDis> name, i'm in agreement with nolimitsoya on that one.  usually, it's something rather serious during the crash that writes goofy data to the drive
[02:44] <spiggott> leaving...
[02:44] <DarkLegacy> SilentDis, it's got an install script but how do I run it?
[02:44] <name> nolimitsoya: i can produce I/O's, cool!
[02:44] <Q_Continuum> Device Manager only shows 1 Processor, I'm running a dual-core system, and the Live CD (prior to install) registered 2 - what do I need to do to get the second CPU enabled?
[02:44] <name> the disk had a fault
[02:44] <name> but i fixed it and it doesn't complain
[02:44] <arrenlex> Q_Continuum: Install the -generic kernel, if you're on edgy.
[02:45] <name> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[02:45] <arrenlex> Q_Continuum: I also remember talking to you about -generic before. :)
[02:45] <SilentDis> DarkLegacy, the readme file should have info... but after it's unpacked, usually it's something like going into the directory you unpacked it into, then sh ./make install or some such, as I said, the readme will tell you what to type :)
[02:45] <doviende> Q_Continuum: uname -a     does it say SMP right before the date?
[02:45] <nolimitsoya> name, you obviously didnt, and may i remind you of the !enter thing ;)
[02:45] <Q_Continuum> doviende, it does not
[02:45] <Q_Continuum> I ran with the default kernel
[02:45] <name> *holding back aggression* :P they damn fs made me damn angry :)
[02:46] <doviende> Q_Continuum: then that's a problem.  you need a different kernel with SMP enabled
[02:46] <arrenlex> doviende: What does that show, exactly? I run a system with only one processor, with a kernel that does not have smp support, and I have SMP there.
[02:46] <name> oh sorry, !language
[02:46] <arrenlex> Q_Continuum: apt-get install linux-kernel-generic
[02:46] <doviende> arrenlex: if you have "SMP" in the uname part, then the kernel you're running has SMP support
[02:46] <ernz> Hey PoLL, If you are also looking to have this network location permanently available, have a look'see at this page: http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Filesystems/Mounting_smbfs_Shares_Permanently.html >>> There is a section a little ways down about adding a line to your fstab file, this will mount the locations on boot, and from what I read the login fields are not necessary, depending on the config of your Winblows shares. - Hope this helps, credit to spiggott a
[02:46] <ernz> nd name for assistance.
[02:46] <DarkLegacy> It's a .pl
[02:46] <DarkLegacy> A perl script I think
[02:47] <DarkLegacy> It just tells me to "run it from terminal or a X session as a super user"
[02:47] <kurisutofuaa> I am having problems getting my iPod to mount for me it is a U2 B&W click wheel (and yes a have used to forums but they didn't work)... It anyone would help me I would be great-full for the help.
[02:47] <SilentDis> name, you seem rather upset at all this.  we're here to help, no need to take out your aggressions on the channel/people/rules here.  I sincerely doubt that a problem on the disk could be attributed to ext3, it's just about the most stable FS for linux out there right now.  If you really want to, you can jump back to ext2 and loose journalizing though
[02:47] <michaelpo> how to setup thunderbird so that when reply there will not be a > at the beginning of every line?
[02:47] <webmaren> part
[02:47] <Q_Continuum> arrenlex, generic *is* installed; I haven't installed anything else.
[02:47] <arrenlex> Q_Continuum: What's the output of uname -a
[02:47] <Q_Continuum> I ran the update, but didn't switch kernel versions/types
[02:47] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, what does 'uname -r' give you?
[02:48] <Davo_Dinkum> arrenlex: OK, X is still working fine with the new radeon driver
[02:48] <Q_Continuum> Linux FX60-hornet 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Tue Dec 5 22:26:18 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:48] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, the -generic kernel might not be the generic kernel, if that makes sense :P
[02:48] <doviende> Q_Continuum: ya, you're not currently running -generic then
[02:48] <arrenlex> Q_Continuum: You need to boot into the generic kernel. You're not running it right now.
[02:48] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, then you are not running the -generic kenrel :)
[02:48] <Q_Continuum> ....
[02:48] <Q_Continuum> alrighty
[02:49] <doviende> Q_Continuum: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[02:49] <doviende> Q_Continuum: does it say the generic one in there somewhere?
[02:49] <Q_Continuum> Yes
[02:49] <bds> doviende: As of Edgy are all kernels generic?
[02:49] <Q_Continuum> second and third entries, out of 3.
[02:49] <doviende> ok, so it's not set as the default in grub or something
[02:49] <doviende> bds: he's running a -386 kernel
[02:49] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, just do the 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic' and reboot
[02:49] <arrenlex> bds: -386 is available or emergencies.
[02:49] <DarkLegacy> Nvm
[02:49] <DarkLegacy> got it to work
[02:49] <DarkLegacy> ./ means "current directory"
[02:49] <andrew_> Anyone know of a good C programming app for ubuntu with a GUI interface
[02:50] <bds> ah
[02:50] <lufis> bds: i don't think so. i think it picks an optimized one
[02:50] <DarkLegacy> It was like "What executable?"
[02:50] <DarkLegacy> Lol
[02:50] <spliffy> hi. i have problem with files >2gb. i can't get them per ftp with nautilus, ftp cmdline client, ncftp. but my filesystem supports large files. i use ext3 and there's enough space left. does anyone have an idea what it could be?
[02:50] <doviende> nolimitsoya: except he has it installed already he says
[02:50] <andrew_> I'm really not into text base
[02:50] <nolimitsoya> doviende, oh, i missed that :)
[02:50] <DarkLegacy> Linux comes with free C tools I think
[02:50] <Q_Continuum> I installed off the CD, default kernel; ran the update and then installed the nvidia binary driver.
[02:50] <linuxnewbie756> what is the command to show the little gear things to test graphics?
[02:50] <SilentDis> andrew_, give me a moment to sift through something right quick, coulda swore I just saw a tool listed over on gnomefiles...
[02:50] <Q_Continuum> linuxnewbie756, glxgears
[02:50] <bds> !generic | me
[02:50] <ubotu> me: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[02:50] <doviende> Q_Continuum: run  update-grub
[02:50] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, yes, the depends for the nvidia-glx package are broken
[02:51] <andrew_> yes gcc but I'm looking for something like Qt but for C
[02:51] <linuxnewbie756> how do you tell how many fps?
[02:51] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, before you do anything else, you must install linux-restricted-modules-generic, or you wont be able to start x with the default kernel
[02:51] <arrenlex> linuxnewbie756: glxgears -printfps
[02:51] <doviende> nolimitsoya: oh, good call
[02:51] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, when thats done, you can just uninstall all the -386 or -686 kernels
[02:52] <linuxnewbie756> while its running, or after i run it?
[02:52] <spliffy> don't nautilus and wget support files >2gb by default on ununtu?
[02:52] <Nrbelex> How do I make it so a Kannel server launches on startup
[02:52] <Q_Continuum> linux-restricted-modules-generic installed; required for the nvidia drivers
[02:53] <nolimitsoya> spliffy, they should, but older versions does not have >2gb support.
[02:53] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, then you should be fine
[02:53] <arrenlex> linuxnewbie756: Use that command to run the gears so that they print fps.
[02:53] <Q_Continuum> ran grub-update; should I simply attempt a reboot into the generic kernel?
[02:53] <doviende> Q_Continuum: ya, give it a shot
[02:53] <DarkLegacy> Quick question
[02:53] <Q_Continuum> (and will that break the nvidia driver?)
[02:53] <DarkLegacy> Why doesn't the Ubuntu log in screen go with the selected theme?
[02:54] <DarkLegacy> Like if I chose a blue theme, the login stays brown
[02:54] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, no it shouldnt. before you reboot, you could remove the kernels you dont want :)
[02:54] <doviende> if nvidia drivers require linux-restricted-modules-generic then it should work with the -generic kernel
[02:54] <DarkLegacy> Is there like a "login_use_theme == 1" somewhere?
[02:54] <linuxnewbie756> 573, that seem too many, i am using onboard graphics, how many do people with 256MB cards get?
[02:54] <Nrbelex> How do I make it so a Kannel server launches on startup?
[02:54] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, its usualy no problem to remove even the running kernel, since youll be rebooting anyway :)
[02:54] <Q_Continuum> DarkLegacy: System->Preferences->Login WIndow
[02:54] <doviende> Q_Continuum: no, don't remove any kernels yet
[02:54] <DarkLegacy> thx
[02:54] <doviende> wait til you know it works
[02:54] <kaoz> hello ubuntu
[02:54] <SilentDis> andrew_, it must have slipped off the end of my feeds.  check out gnomefiles.com to see if there's anything there that suits your needs.  very nice updated GTK software listing site :)
[02:54] <doviende> keep the working setup ;)
[02:54] <andrew_> thanks man
[02:55] <kaoz> can someone please help me with some modem problems i am having?
[02:55] <nolimitsoya> doviende, wheres your sense of danger? :/
[02:55] <SilentDis> andrew_, er, gnomefiles.org, sorry
[02:55] <doviende> always keep spare working kernels around, just in case ;)
[02:55] <Q_Continuum> I wasn't planning on removing anything.  I simply want smp, and the nvidia drivers, on the same boot.  (dual monitors)
[02:55] <doviende> nolimitsoya: haha.  it's very active ;)
[02:55] <Q_Continuum> rebooting; will select the generic kernel...
[02:55] <kaoz> anyone know anything about programming.... compiling or pctel modems?
[02:56] <nolimitsoya> !anyone | kaoz
[02:56] <ubotu> kaoz: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:56] <Bakefy> what is the key stroke to see hidden files?
[02:56] <SilentDis> i seem to remember seeing a 'step by step' of setting up tor for ubuntu edgy....  might anyone have the link for that here?
[02:56] <nolimitsoya> Bakefy, ctrl+h
[02:56] <nolimitsoya> at least it is in thunar...
[02:56] <Flannel> Bakefy: ls -a
[02:56] <SilentDis> nolimitsoya, same in nautilus. :)
[02:56] <kaoz> for some reason my makefile for compiling my drivers is giving me errors and the module wont load... any ideas
[02:57] <nolimitsoya> SilentDis, i thought so, but i wasnt sure :)
[02:57] <Bakefy> nolimitsoya:  I am having trouble seeing directories that I create from my windows machine on my Samba shared folders
[02:57] <arrenlex> !doesn't work | kaoz
[02:57] <ubotu> kaoz: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[02:57] <nolimitsoya> !build | kaoz
[02:57] <ubotu> kaoz: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:57] <SilentDis> kaoz:  what errors?
[02:57] <Rupie> If I want to write a driver for a printer, where would I start?
[02:57] <kaoz> the only deps the readme and howtos say i need is build-essential and headers
[02:57] <danny> guys I just want to know if theres a better client BT client availaible than Azureus in ubuntu ?
[02:57] <arrenlex> Q_Continuum: WB
[02:57] <Q_Continuum> Sweet, that did the trick.  Now, I forget the easiest way to change grub default.
[02:57] <nolimitsoya> danny, torrent through wine
[02:57] <Flannel> danny: the built in one.  But, really "better" is a matter of personal opinion
[02:58] <kaoz> i have BE and headers installed....... then it just says to run ./setup
[02:58] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, the easies way it to remove the kernels you dont want :P
[02:58] <Flannel> Q_Continuum: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the "default" number
[02:58] <kaoz> did that then it finds modm and errors out
[02:58] <Q_Continuum> Then my second question, and I always forget, non-X session resolutions - what's the kb page on that?
[02:58] <danny> and utorrent really works trough wine ?
[02:58] <danny> without any bug ?
[02:58] <Bakefy> danny, it works for me
[02:58] <SilentDis> kaoz, you'll need to tell me what error you got.  I MIGHT have a solution then ;)
[02:58] <linuxnewbie756> i have on of them nifty microsoft wireless keyboards, and was wondering if i could get the media keys to work
[02:58] <nolimitsoya> danny, well, i get some bugs related to minimizing with the button instead of clicking the icon, but fine otherwize :)
[02:59] <danny> the speed is great ?
[02:59] <dan2> .j #c++
[02:59] <danny> and what about bitcomet ?
[02:59] <SilentDis> linuxnewbie756, now that I saw recently.  *goes off to dig through gnomefiles*
[02:59] <Flannel> !shortcuts | linuxnewbie756
[02:59] <ubotu> linuxnewbie756: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[02:59] <Flannel> linuxnewbie756: there's also a wiki page, although I don't have it handy
[02:59] <DarkLegacy> Hm
[02:59] <kaoz> silent can i PM u the error so i dont spam?
[02:59] <Q_Continuum> How do I set Terminal resolution (when running in a non-X-based session)?
[02:59] <DarkLegacy> I tried to install xchat but it failed some dependency
[02:59] <SilentDis> linuxnewbie756, check out a program called keytouch as well.  might be what you are looking for.
[03:00] <SilentDis> !paste | kaoz
[03:00] <ubotu> kaoz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:00] <danny> okey thanx all
[03:00] <DarkLegacy> libdbus-1-2
[03:00] <n2diy_> How can I run my basic programmes with linux?
[03:00] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, id like to know as well. highlight me if you find out, please? :)
[03:00] <SilentDis> n2diy_, what program are you trying to run?
[03:01] <FreshPrince> n2diy_, what programm?
[03:01] <Q_Continuum> nolimitsoya, will do
[03:01] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, thanks :)
[03:01] <DarkLegacy> How can I get xchat to work on Ubuntu?
[03:01] <nolimitsoya> DarkLegacy, sudo apt-get ?
[03:01] <tonyyarusso> DarkLegacy: Install it with synaptic
[03:01] <kaoz> silent i posted on paste
[03:01] <FreshPrince> DarkLegacy, just install it with apt-get :)
[03:01] <Flannel> DarkLegacy: just install it through the repositories, xchat-gnome is in main, xchat is in universe
[03:01] <n2diy_> All, I just want to run my old Qbasic stuff, nothings specific.
[03:01] <kaoz> under the name kaoz
[03:01] <tonyyarusso> !software | DarkLegacy
[03:01] <ubotu> DarkLegacy: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents and !Offline
[03:01] <nolimitsoya> kaoz, paste the link
[03:02] <kaoz> posted contents of make.log and of error i get
[03:02] <DarkLegacy> Great thankd
[03:02] <DarkLegacy> Thank you
[03:02] <FreshPrince> n2diy_, then jsut type it in the term
[03:02] <linuxnewbie756> where can i find the xine nonfree codecs?
[03:02] <kaoz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/185/
[03:02] <nolimitsoya> !codecs | linuxnewbie756
[03:02] <ubotu> linuxnewbie756: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:02] <name> ode
[03:02] <Bakefy> anyone know why my linux does not see all of the files in a directory? I know there are more because my windows sees them all
[03:02] <Bakefy> I have a samba shareing my linux directory
[03:03] <Flannel> n2diy_: there's a few BASIC interpreters in the repositories.  I haven't used any of them much, and thusly have no suggestions.  Search for them, try them until you get one that works ;)  They should have hardly any dependencies, so removing later shouldn't leave any shrapnel
[03:03] <n2diy_> FreshPrince:  I'd rather not re-enter it, will it work if copy it?
[03:03] <SilentDis> kaoz, do a less <name of makefile>.  i'm gonna bet that first line reads #!/bin/sh, doesn't in ;)
[03:03] <nolimitsoya> Bakefy, anything beginning with a . is a hidden file in linux
[03:03] <danny> and to download mp3s, the best p2p client, besides Bit torrent protocal ? what is it ?
[03:03] <kaoz> what do u mean do a less? im not that good at linux yet hehe
[03:03] <nolimitsoya> Bakefy, to see them, use ctrl+h for nautilus and thunar :)
[03:03] <n2diy_> Flannel: roger that.
[03:03] <nolimitsoya> probably konki as well...
[03:03] <Bakefy> it doesnt even show under hidden
[03:03] <danny> is Frostwire any good ?
[03:03] <SilentDis> kaoz, less is the name of a program.  type "less <name of makefile>", without the quotes :)
[03:04] <klees> my custom linux-2.6.19 folder has over 460M in size...  how can i see which files are taking the most space??
[03:04] <nolimitsoya> Bakefy, what sort of files are they?
[03:04] <linuxnewbie756> those are all for gstreamer, i want xine codecs
[03:04] <Bakefy> directories
[03:04] <nolimitsoya> Bakefy, elaborate please
[03:04] <arrenlex> klees: du | sort
[03:04] <Bakefy> i created them in windows.  they are not showing on linux (visually)
[03:05] <nolimitsoya> Bakefy, can you navigate them through the terminal; did you refresh the filemanager?
[03:05] <kaoz> ok i did a less likle u said and i just got what looks like the output of the make.log
[03:05] <name> hello again
[03:05] <name> from the live cd ;)
[03:05] <Bakefy> HA!
[03:05] <Bakefy> refresh worked
[03:05] <SilentDis> kaoz, ok, what does the first line say?
[03:05] <klees> arrenlex: that didn't do it
[03:05] <danny> ohhh and guys to manage my wirelles connection, im on a laptop, the best is it wifi-radar ?
[03:06] <Bakefy> my bad
[03:06] <arrenlex> klees: du | sort -g
[03:06] <DarkLegacy_> Hah
[03:06] <dabaR> !nm-applet
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nm-applet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <DarkLegacy> Synpatic worked
[03:06] <DarkLegacy> Thank you very much guys, I'm on Ubuntu now with Xchat :)
[03:07] <kaoz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/186/
[03:07] <dabaR> !networkmanager > danny
[03:07] <klees> arrenlex: i think that worked thanks
[03:07] <arrenlex> klees: yw
[03:07] <kaoz> ok i posted what less make.log says there
[03:07] <kaoz> its at the bottom
[03:07] <oldab> hi
[03:07] <danny> !networkmanager
[03:07] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[03:07] <oldab> i just installed 6.10
[03:08] <tlanfer> why am i not allowed to run an xserver as a normal user in ubuntu?
[03:08] <majortom> what package are iwconfig and iwlist in? or are they in one package?
[03:08] <SilentDis> kaoz, oops, wrong file.  i assume the file you're running to get that error is called "make", right?
[03:08] <oldab> after setting up my printer, it doesn't print
[03:08] <arrenlex> tlanfer: You are.
[03:08] <kaoz> oh haha
[03:08] <n2diy_> OK, how do I program and display "Hello World" with a fresh Ubuntu install?
[03:08] <kaoz> i thought u wanted the less of the error log...my bad
[03:08] <dabaR> find iwconfig
[03:08] <arrenlex> n2diy_: In what language?
[03:08] <kaoz> the name of the file in my src dir is makefile
[03:08] <SilentDis> kaoz, the command you want to run is "less make", so we can read it :)
[03:08] <dabaR> !find iwconfig
[03:08] <ubotu> File iwconfig found in wireless-tools, zsh-beta
[03:09] <majortom> thanks dabar
[03:09] <dabaR> !find iwlist
[03:09] <tlanfer> arrenlex: when i run "startx" i get "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting"
[03:09] <SilentDis> kaoz, ok, then it'll be "less makefile" (without quotes, of course)
[03:09] <ubotu> File iwlist found in wireless-tools
[03:09] <majortom> thanks again dabar
[03:09] <SilentDis> kaoz, and I only need the first line of text :)
[03:09] <majortom> exit
[03:09] <majortom> grrr
[03:09] <n2diy_> arrenlex: I don't care, as long as it works out of they box.
[03:10] <arrenlex> n2diy_: echo "Hello world".
[03:10] <arrenlex> :)
[03:10] <BHSPitMonkey> My resolution (both in gdm and after login) is stuck at 640x480. My xorg.conf is set correctly, and in System>Prefs>Screen Res., it only offers 640x480.
[03:10] <tim167> n2diy: python; print 'Hello World'
[03:10] <BHSPitMonkey> :S
[03:10] <linuxnewbie756> how do i get xine nonfree codecs for amarok? what is the best way to get codecs for amarok?
[03:10] <arrenlex> !fixres | BHSPitMonkey
[03:10] <ubotu> BHSPitMonkey: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:11] <n2diy_> arrenlex: That isn't a program, woulld that work from a Bash file?
[03:11] <dabaR> kaoz: and you have `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386'
[03:11] <kaoz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/187/
[03:11] <kaoz> ok there is less Makefile
[03:11] <arrenlex> n2diy_: Yes. A shell script.
[03:11] <arrenlex> n2diy_: That would look like this:
[03:11] <arrenlex> #!/bin/sh
[03:11] <arrenlex> echo "Hello world"
[03:11] <kaoz> yes i have build essentials and the linux headers
[03:11] <arrenlex> n2diy_: That file would be executable just like a program.
[03:11] <tlanfer> arrenlex: do i have to change something first to allow an user to run an own X server without using sudo?
[03:11] <arrenlex> n2diy_: ./file
[03:12] <arrenlex> tlanfer: Are you trying to run startx from inside an X session?
[03:12] <BHSPitMonkey> arrenlex, no good.
[03:12] <n2diy_> arrenlex: Roger that, cool, and I'm cool wiith shell scripts.
[03:12] <SilentDis> kaoz, hmm... you're running dapper I assume, on an i386 kernel?  that script looks VERY custom to a very particular install
[03:12] <tlanfer> arrenlex: yes, i am. I want to start games on a seperate xserver
[03:12] <kaoz> that is the file i got from all the how-tos for pctel modems
[03:13] <kaoz> i dloaded the file straight from pctels website
[03:13] <arrenlex> tlanfer: You can't do it like that. xD
[03:13] <welly> i'm trying to compile apache 2.2 on my recently upgraded dapper server. It looked to be going fine until - libtool: link: `util_charset.lo' is not a valid libtool object
[03:13] <welly> any ideas?
[03:13] <SilentDis> kaoz, are you running edgy?  just looking at it doesn't look like it'll do all that great for you is all.
[03:13] <lucas9000> how can i make it so that i have just one toolbar in gnome (ubuntu edgy)?
[03:13] <name> nearly done :)
[03:13] <moktod> lucas: remove one of them
[03:14] <kaoz> no im runnin  dapper
[03:14] <tlanfer> arrenlex: some time ago on gentoo i always did. startx "/my/directory/foo" -- :1 worked pretty good
[03:14] <SilentDis> lucas9000, you can remove one, but I'd recommend pulling the tool items back to the other one first :)
[03:14] <lucas9000> ok let's see what happens :)
[03:15] <Q_Continuum> Grrr.  Grub isn't liking the vga= option I'm passing to the boot line :-/
[03:15] <tlanfer> arrenlex: and it still does work, except that i have to put a "sudo" in front of it, which is annoying, because i dont want to run games with root-permissions
[03:15] <Shadow_mil> how can I setup ubuntu login automatically on boot?
[03:15] <arrenlex> tlanfer: Do that from a virtual console.
[03:15] <timo901> can any one see this web site ? its complaining about flash     http://www.cnettv.com/9710-1_53-25345.html?tag=vid&autoplay=true#mgallery
[03:15] <SilentDis> kaoz, from what I can tell from that script, it'll only work on 2.6.15-26-368 kernel.  type uname -r, and show us the output please :)
[03:15] <kaoz> i would rather use my us robotics modem... but dont have a way of buying the linuxant drivers full version
[03:15] <arrenlex> tlanfer: Press ctrl+alt+f1 to get to one. ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to X. ctrl+alt+f8 to get to your new X.
[03:15] <moktod> how can I find a newer version of a package (gqview 2.1.5)
[03:15] <timo901> i use opera
[03:15] <moktod> using aptitude...
[03:15] <tlanfer> arrenlex: But then how could i have items in my panel to run a game in a seperate xserver?
[03:16] <nolimitsoya> moktod, you cant.
[03:16] <kaoz> 2.6.15-26-386
[03:16] <nolimitsoya> moktod, youll have to download and build the latest version yourself, if you cant find a deb
[03:16] <kaoz> there is the output
[03:17] <arrenlex> tlanfer: Why can't you be satisfied with virtual desktops like everyone else? xP
[03:17] <kaoz> i had this working just great... then i tried to install some ntfs tools so i could write to my ntfs part and it crashed ubuntu
[03:17] <kaoz> therefore i reloaded and updated everything... now i cant get modem to work again and dont remember what i did the foirst time
[03:17] <kaoz> it just started working
[03:17] <noiesmo> !xnest | tlanfer
[03:17] <ubotu> xnest: Nested X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.1.1-0ubuntu12 (edgy), package size 1295 kB, installed size 3436 kB
[03:18] <kaoz> also i had it running on breezy b4
[03:18] <con-man> how do I move the contents of a folder and not the folder
[03:18] <con-man> mv moves the folder
[03:18] <foob> how can i tell which sound device i'm using (alsa, oss, esd, etc)?
[03:18] <tlanfer> arrenlex: Because it worked like that for about a year on gentoo. Now i changed to ubuntu because i want to be lazy. And being lazy doesnt go together very well with what you are telling me :P
[03:18] <nolimitsoya> what image viewer would let me view animated gif:s?
[03:18] <arrenlex> con-man: mv <folder>/* <somewhere>
[03:18] <SilentDis> kaoz, ok, you are running it all correctly (i assume there was a step you did BEFORE that actually created that makefile then, no worries).  it looks like they have a FAQ file included with those drivers, and in that file they have a 'dedicated' support forum for help with it.
[03:18] <lucas9000> ty SilentDis and moktod
[03:18] <kaoz> ok let me read faqs
[03:18] <SilentDis> lucas9000, nt :)
[03:19] <lucas9000> have a good night all
[03:20] <nolimitsoya> whats the default imageviewer for ubuntu; does it support animated gif:s?
[03:21] <maddash> uh, I can't get "sudo" working - did an server install of dapper. any ideas?
[03:21] <Nontitle> what??? does irc.ubuntu.com link to irc.freenode.net or something? the #ubuntu in freenode and ubuntu.com have the exact same number of people
[03:21] <nolimitsoya> maddash, check your sudoers list
[03:21] <welly> does anyone know why i might be getting this error when i compile apache 2.2.3 on dapper? libtool: link: `util_charset.lo' is not a valid libtool object
[03:21] <Madpilot> Nontitle, same channel
[03:21] <SilentDis> nolimitsoya, i'm checking the name now... but i am sure it supports animated gifs
[03:21] <Madpilot> Nontitle, icr.ubuntu.com is a forward or whatever to irc.freenode.net
[03:21] <chopchop_> how to mount c drive in linux ?
[03:21] <maddash> nolimitsoya: thanks. I did "su" , then "visudo"...what am I looking for?
[03:21] <Q_Continuum> Trying to change my terminal resolution to 1600x1200, the ChangeTTYResolution page isn't working; grub returns "You passed an undefined mode number" when I use the chart listed.
[03:22] <nolimitsoya> SilentDis, thank you :)
[03:22] <Madpilot> maddash, sudo is the command
[03:22] <nolimitsoya> maddash, you username :)
[03:22] <nolimitsoya> *r
[03:22] <Nontitle> cool
[03:22] <Madpilot> ubotu, sudo | maddash
[03:22] <ubotu> maddash: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:22] <maddash> nolimitsoya: all I have is the "Defaults ********" and then, "root ALL=(ALL)ALL"
[03:22] <SilentDis> nolimitsoya, the default one is called Eye of GNOME - http://live.gnome.org/EyeOfGnome :)
[03:23] <nolimitsoya> maddash, that should be fine...
[03:23] <Madpilot> SilenceGold, is EoG still the default in Dapper/Edgy/onward?
[03:23] <nolimitsoya> SilentDis, thank you :)
[03:23] <asdf_> how do I make totem not useless? i.e. allow me to watch .wmv and quick time movies?
[03:23] <Madpilot> SilentDis, that was for you ^^^
[03:23] <Madpilot> ubotu, restricted | asdf_
[03:23] <ubotu> asdf_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:23] <Q_Continuum> nolimitsoya, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution - change terminal resolution.  I was only able to change my 20" LCD (native 1600x1200) to 1280x1024, any higher and grub pukes so far
[03:23] <SilentDis> Madpilot, not sure if it will be in fiesty, but it is in edgy, and was in dapper :)
[03:24] <nolimitsoya> Q_Continuum, thank you. :) whats up with grub?
[03:24] <Madpilot> SilenceGold, ah, thought it was gThumb - but then, I switched to gThumb way back in Hoary...
[03:24] <Q_Continuum> nolimitsoya, I think its more a VESA/VGA issue than grub, some cards/monitors don't support higher res until the OS kicks in it seems :-/
[03:24] <Q_Continuum> but 1280x1024 is MUCH better than 640x480 or whatever the default is.
[03:24] <maddash> notlimitsoya: the file was not "fine." was missing an entire line.
[03:24] <cassidy> hey quick question, can i use mismatch memory in ubuntu? Like 1024 mb ddr2-800 OCZ and 512mb ddr2-667 Corsair?
[03:24] <cassidy> or woudl that be bad
[03:25] <Q_Continuum> cassidy, as long as the hardware works, linux doesn't care - so whatever the board requires.
[03:25] <cassidy> hmm, how do you find that out?
[03:25] <particleman> ah...looks like you're dealing with the same issue I am
[03:25] <particleman> just got a widescreen monitor
[03:25] <particleman> works fine in terminal mode
[03:25] <cassidy> like i got a ga 965p s3
[03:25] <particleman> as soon as X starts up I get a blank screen
[03:25] <Q_Continuum> cassidy, board runs at 667 I assume?
[03:25] <particleman> I have an ATI Radeon 9200
[03:26] <particleman> I can give the model number of my monitor/tv if you wish
[03:26] <cassidy> well right now i'm using the ocz ddr2-800 so that
[03:26] <cassidy> if thats what your asking
[03:26] <maddash> in my server install of dapper, ALT+F2 does nothing...isn't it supposed to bring up some "Run app" dialog? how do I get this working?
[03:26] <particleman> running Dapper
[03:26] <SilentDis> cassidy, DDR memory will 'downclock' itself to the lowest stuff you're running.  the compatibility and ability for that to happen is more dependant on your motherboard than the OS :)
[03:26] <Q_Continuum> cassidy, if the board runs at 667, it should be fine - you can run higher speed ram (800) at a slower speed (667) but not run a slower at faster speeds (vice versa) so you'd have to check the board you're running.
[03:26] <siccccness> I just put in a CISCO Aironet card, and Xubuntu read it... how do I configure it?
[03:26] <siccccness>  im in network settings I see <wireless connection> eth1 and <wireless connection> wifi0
[03:26] <siccccness>  which one do i configure?
[03:26] <particleman> I edited my xorg.conf file to delete any reference to 1280x1024, which the monitor manual says it doesn't support
[03:26] <particleman> but that didn't help
[03:26] <particleman> any ideas?
[03:27] <lufis> particleman: have you tried reconfiguring x?
[03:27] <particleman> how?
[03:27] <welly> does anyone know why i might be getting this error when i compile apache 2.2.3 on dapper? libtool: link: `util_charset.lo' is not a valid libtool object
[03:27] <cassidy> so if i'm overclocking my cpu at 1:1 ratio prolly not a good idea as it might downgrade my ddr2-800 and mess things up?
[03:27] <lufis> particleman: in the terminal: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:27] <particleman> ah
[03:27] <particleman> no I haven't :)
[03:27] <particleman> one sec
[03:27] <lufis> :)
[03:27] <SilentDis> Q_Continuum, i'm still running PC2100 DDR ram in this box, heh.  one is a stick of PC2700 as I got it cheap.  it downclocked fine.  obviously, if I stuck something SLOWER in there, everything would run that slow from then on.
[03:28] <elbeto> Hey guys I have a big problem, my ubuntu doesn't start after login in
[03:28] <lardarse> how do i find out which device my joystick is, so i can use jstest ?
[03:28] <lufis> elbeto: can you give some more details?
[03:28] <jad> anybody from bogota?
[03:29] <con-man> is there a line of code I can put in to show uptime of my box in a webpage?  Im running apache2
[03:29] <elbeto> I logged into ubuntu after a restart and I get a blank screen
[03:29] <lovloss> !imgseek
[03:29] <ubotu> imgseek: Image viewer and manager with content based query. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-1 (edgy), package size 279 kB, installed size 1356 kB
[03:29] <lovloss> i downloaded that, and now i cant find it!
[03:29] <lufis> elbeto: does the compute respond to any key presses?
[03:29] <con-man> you know how you type uptime in console
[03:29] <con-man> I want that value on my website
[03:29] <kaoz> hi silent ok 1 more thing
[03:29] <elbeto> lufis: I've tried to reconfigure the xserver-xorg but it didn't help. After login it freeze
[03:30] <kaoz> i got everything to compile...make and make install with no errors
[03:30] <nolimitsoya> SilentDis, doesnt seem to play gif:s...
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> con-man: http://yarusso.no-ip.org/uptime.html, and /uptime.sh, hooked up to cron.
[03:30] <SilentDis> kaoz, cool, what was wrong?
[03:30] <VerdRousseau> Is it just me or does KDE feel less organized as gnome?
[03:30] <Beck> Umm... hey, I need some help.
[03:30] <kaoz> now i get an error trying to use modprobe
[03:30] <lovloss> i just switched. it is less organized... but it does give you a bit of extra freedom in that way
[03:30] <SilentDis> nolimitsoya, really.  i coulda swore it did, my bad, and my apologies then :(
[03:30] <lufis> elbeto: so it's a graphics problem, you think?
[03:30] <kaoz> no errors were given during the compile process though
[03:30] <kaoz> can u give me that link to paste again so i can show u?
[03:30] <nolimitsoya> SilentDis, no biggie, just thought id let you know :)
[03:30] <kaoz> its 3 lines
[03:30] <Fireal> hey all, I wanna pull pics off a razr phone, any suggestions?
[03:31] <elbeto> I was thinking that the graphics is what caused the problem but the usual suspect didn't saave my day
[03:31] <kaoz> WARNING: Error inserting linmodem (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/misc/linmodem.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:31] <kaoz> WARNING: Error inserting pctel_hw (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/misc/pctel_hw.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:31] <kaoz> FATAL: Error inserting pctel (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/misc/pctel.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:31] <lufis> elbeto: was everything working before you tried reconfiguring xorg?
[03:31] <SilentDis> kaoz, i think you might do best with either the help forums they setup (check that FAQ), or someone else.  I've never used that modem before, so I won't know how to best help you from here out
[03:31] <con-man> tonyyarusso: where do I put uptime.sh
[03:31] <kaoz> there is the message silent
[03:31] <armando> algun venezolano
[03:31] <Beck> I have the Ubuntu live CD and I was wondering if I could install it WITHOUT starting the LiveCD... and if so, how would I do that?
[03:31] <kaoz> does that message mean anything to you
[03:32] <nolimitsoya> kaoz, did you pass the command as su?
[03:32] <tonyyarusso> con-man: Anywhere you want, just make sure your cronjob points to it, and that it runs as a user with permissions to modify the page on the site.
[03:32] <kaoz> yup
[03:32] <kaoz> thats what i get when i type sudo modprobe pctel
[03:32] <SilentDis> kaoz, could be permissions.  sudo <command>.  outside that, I can't say, sorry :(
[03:32] <con-man> do I copy the contents of uptime.sh into my webpage code?
[03:32] <elbeto> I did it because after a restart I started to have problems, but before I tried to change resolutions and I played a little bit and I thik I messed up something for sure. There was not real reason for a reboot.
[03:32] <armando> algun venezolano
[03:32] <Beck> Bah.
[03:32] <lufis> elbeto: oh, hm
[03:32] <armando> necesito ayuda
[03:33] <armando> help
[03:33] <HymnToLife> !es | armando
[03:33] <ubotu> armando: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:33] <meleeglow> hey does anyone know a  direct link to grub
[03:33] <kaoz> does it mean anything to you nolimit?
[03:33] <con-man> tonyyarusso: do I copy the contents of uptime.sh into my webpage code?
[03:33] <tonyyarusso> con-man: Into a file on the server, not the page.
[03:33] <armando> graciasass
[03:33] <con-man> oh ok
[03:33] <HymnToLife> meleeglow, define "GRUB"
[03:33] <meleeglow> \the dualboot p[rogram or whatever
[03:33] <lufis> elbeto: try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:34] <SilentDis> !grub | meleeglow
[03:34] <ubotu> meleeglow: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:34] <Beck> None of you can even help someone that wants to use Ubuntu but can't install it.
[03:34] <con-man> tonyyarusso: im afraid im a bit lost
[03:34] <lufis> Beck: are you having trouble running the livecd?
[03:34] <SilentDis> Beck, i missed your problem description, what problem are you having?
[03:35] <tonyyarusso> con-man: Okay - what step is losing you?
[03:35] <Beck> The LiveCD runs, BUT I think my CD drive is a little too slow for it.
[03:35] <Beck> And I was wondering if I could install it WITHOUT starting the LiveCD... and if so, how would I do that?
[03:35] <lufis> Beck: you can use the text-only installer
[03:35] <michael117> I would like to convert my Ubuntu hard drive to use LVM. Would I just dd my current partition over to another hard drive while booted into a live cd and then whip the drive clean, create the PV, VG, and LV and dd back the partition from the other hard drive? How does Grub do with LVM root partitions?
[03:35] <Soccrmastr> hey guys i need some printer driver help 0.o
[03:35] <con-man> tonyyarusso: i have the .sh file, you said something about it being tied to crons?
[03:35] <SilentDis> Beck, you'll need to use the 'alternate' or 'dvd' version of the ubuntu CD.
[03:35] <Beck> Lufis: Where would that be?
[03:35] <lufis> Beck: what SilentDis said
[03:35] <welly> hi all, am trying to compile apache 2.2.3 and it keeps failing with this error: libtool: link: `util_charset.lo' is not a valid libtool object. I've just upgraded from breezy to dapper and wondering if the upgrade didn't work correctly?
[03:36] <lufis> Beck: you'll have to reburn a cd
[03:36] <Soccrmastr_> eh sorry
[03:36] <Soccrmastr_> hey guys i need some printer driver help 0.o
[03:36] <Beck> Okay, umm.
[03:36] <Beck> Which files would I burn to it?
[03:36] <lufis> Beck: on the ubuntu download page, there is an alternative installer iso
[03:36] <tonyyarusso> con-man: Yeah.  For any user with write priviledges to the web server files (member of www-data group), edit their crontab ('crontab -e') and add a line to run uptime.sh, with the full path to wherever you put it, every hour or however often you want to update.
[03:36] <Beck> Oh... I'm in the text mode on the CD now.
[03:36] <particleman> ok...
[03:37] <SilentDis> Beck, remember when you downloaded the Ubuntu Live CD before?  go back to that same spot (http://www.ubuntu.com/) and download the ALTERNATE CD, and follow the same steps you did before :)
[03:37] <particleman> how do I kill the default bootup of x and restart?
[03:37] <particleman> or do I have to reboot?
[03:37] <Beck> I didn't DL it
[03:37] <lufis> particleman: no need to reboot, just restart x with ctrl alt backspace
[03:37] <Soccrmastr_> i am going to install ubuntu on my sisters laptop (on it now) and she has an HP photosmart 2750 all in one series printer (with bluetooth) and I cant find anywhere to download the drivers, and even if I did find them i wouldnt know how to install them and wouldnt be sure if it supports the bluetooth
[03:37] <Beck> I got it from a field day thing.
[03:37] <SilentDis> Beck, someone handed you a CD?
[03:37] <particleman> whoah
[03:37] <particleman> it works!
[03:37] <particleman> sweet!
[03:37] <lufis> woot :)
[03:37] <particleman> thank you
[03:37] <lufis> no problemo
[03:38] <Beck> Hmm
[03:38] <particleman> now...I am gonna want to get 1360x768 working
[03:38] <nolimitsoya> particleman, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:38] <con-man> tonyyarusso: ok i did crontab -e, and I got a weird page
[03:38] <particleman> though I don't know if my graphics card will support that
[03:38] <Beck> "Ubuntu 6.10, the newest Ubuntu release: If you would like to benefit from the latest Ubuntu features, this is the release for you
[03:38] <Beck> 
[03:38] <Beck> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, Ubuntu with long-term support: Choose this to benefit from the long support life-cycle of the 6.06 LTS release. This version is supported for 3 years on the desktop and 5 years on servers.
[03:38] <Beck> "
[03:38] <SilentDis> Beck, ahhh.  i was gonna recommend you go back to the good samaritan and let them know that you need the 'alternate' cd.  but, barring that, you can download and burn your own (broadband and a CD burner are the only requirements) :)
[03:38] <Beck> Which do I choose?
[03:38] <tonyyarusso> con-man: Yes.  If you've never used cron before, you may want to read up on it.
[03:38] <Beck> I have both. :D
[03:38] <michael117> Is anyone here familiar with LVM at all?
[03:38] <particleman> michael-some
[03:38] <Soccrmastr_> so can ne1 help me?
[03:38] <waxblood> What's the file to  stop services started with rc.local?
[03:39] <particleman> though honestly I find it a pain the arse :)
[03:39] <nolimitsoya> michael117, for big elaborate topics the mailingslist would probably work better...
[03:39] <Beck> Okay... do I get the one with the long term support?
[03:39] <con-man> i just want my website to show my computers uptime at the bottom
[03:39] <lufis> Beck: it depends on what you want
[03:39] <SilentDis> Beck, let me grab you a direct link.  are you looking for the long-term support version (dapper) or the 'newest' stuff (edgy)?  if this is your first install, i'd recommend dapper for now, you can upgrade later :)
[03:39] <Beck> I have the LiveCD with long term support currently.
[03:40] <michael117> I'm just wondering if it is possible for Grub to use boot ubuntu if the entire disk is LVM
[03:40] <fatlip> ooo i just picked up a new monitor today.. beautiful :)
[03:40] <cafuego_> con-man: Well easy, write a file at bootup and calculate from the file creation time whenever someone hits the site.
[03:40] <fatlip> now i gotta figure out how to get 1440x900 reso on ubuntu\
[03:40] <nolimitsoya> Beck, if you are not planning to upgrade within the next five years, use the lts. if you are, use edgy
[03:40] <cafuego_> fatlip: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:40] <con-man> cafuego_: easier said than done
[03:40] <fatlip> yeah
[03:40] <fatlip> doesnt that reset everything i have?
[03:40] <EvilMike> A few hours ago I came here because my sound wasn't working. I got help and was able to get something to load on startup so the soundcard would work. Unfortunately, I just discovered it doesnt work completely yet. I can play music and videos, but system sounds wont work
[03:40] <lufis> fatlip: no, it lets you reconfigure default values
[03:41] <Beck> Well, I dunno, I don't think that far ahead. :P
[03:41] <fatlip> oh sick
[03:41] <fatlip> :)
[03:41] <nolimitsoya> Micksa, hearsay is that booting lvm isnt trouble free...
[03:41] <EvilMike> For example no sound plays when I log in or log out, gaim doesnt make any sound when I send/recieve messages, etc
[03:41] <SilentDis> Beck, http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#lts
[03:41] <lufis> fatlip: well, in a way, it does reset... but for the better :P
[03:41] <particleman> ok...
[03:41] <particleman> hmm
[03:41] <nolimitsoya> michaek771, hearsay is that booting lvm isnt trouble free...
[03:41] <con-man> cafuego_: and why go to that trouble, cant I just pull off of the "uptime" command we use in terminal
[03:41] <nolimitsoya> >_<
[03:41] <cafuego_> con-man: ssh server touch /some/dir/boot.stamp
[03:41] <Beck> 700MB... I might have to ask the parents about that one. ;)
[03:41] <nolimitsoya> michael117,
[03:42] <lufis> EvilMike: are you using alsa?
[03:42] <particleman> it seems like the resolution values I enabled in the reconfigure aren't available in the gnome display settings manager
[03:42] <cafuego_> con-man: I'm assuming the web server is not the same box you want the uptime from, right?
[03:42] <Neostar-san> hello
[03:42] <con-man> it is
[03:42] <EvilMike> lufis: I think so
[03:42] <Beck> Hmm.
[03:42] <con-man> i want my website to show the uptime of the box its running off of
[03:42] <SilentDis> Beck, here's a DIRECT link to the distro you want: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[03:42] <particleman> and I can't adjust the refresh rate either
[03:42] <Neostar-san> hi people
[03:42] <particleman> I mean I'm happy I'm in and all
[03:42] <particleman> but still :)
[03:42] <Beck> Silent... is there any way to do it with my current one?
[03:43] <particleman> now I want it to work well :P
[03:43] <cafuego_> con-man: Oh well, that's easy.
[03:43] <con-man> what is it?
[03:43] <cafuego_> con-man: Write a small wrapper script and enable server side includes.
[03:43] <SilentDis> Beck, no, the liveCD you have doesn't have the same options available
[03:43] <Neostar-san> well erm see ya ..bye
[03:43] <cafuego_> con-man: Put the wrapper in the cgi-bin dir
[03:43] <lufis> particleman: when you were reconfiguring X, did you input the correct values for refresh rates?
[03:43] <Beck> Sorry, I just dunno if my parents would be too pleased with about a gig of downloads. :P
[03:43] <tonyyarusso> cafuego_: That sounds more intelligent than my cheap hack :P
[03:43] <cafuego_> and call <!--#exec virtual="/cgi-bin/wrapper"-->
[03:43] <con-man> cafuego_: whats a wrapper?
[03:44] <particleman> lufis...not sure
[03:44] <cafuego_> con-man: A bash script that calls /usr/bin/uptime
[03:44] <Beck> Damn... I have on my screen now "boot : "
[03:44] <lufis> particleman: one sec, let me link you to a guide
[03:44] <particleman> I entered the range specified in the manual for the vertical refresh rate
[03:44] <lufis> particleman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269052
[03:44] <cafuego_> con-man: Do you just want the entire output of `uptime`?
[03:44] <particleman> not sure about the horizontal rate though
[03:44] <particleman> lufis
[03:44] <particleman> I'll check-thanks
[03:44] <lufis> :)
[03:45] <con-man> cafuego: well the "time" part of it, yes
[03:45] <fatlip> ahhh yesss
[03:45] <fatlip> there we go
[03:45] <fatlip> thanks :)
[03:45] <nolimitsoya> how can i - with a terminal command - add/edit text on a given line of a text document?
[03:45] <Pie-rate> are there any *good* f/oss games?
[03:45] <nolimitsoya> Pie-rate, tremoulus
[03:45] <tonyyarusso> !games | Pie-rate
[03:45] <ubotu> Pie-rate: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[03:45] <Beck> Errr.
[03:46] <Pie-rate> i've looked around, they're either complete and suck or they're incomplete and look sorta cool if only they were finished
[03:46] <SilentDis> cafuego_, con-man:  if i may interrupt a bit... con-man, if you're running a server with PHP enabled...  this little script might do it for you - http://www.4webhelp.net/scripts/php/uptime.php
[03:46] <kaoz> another questions... how do i add additional kernel choices to boot to?
[03:46] <nolimitsoya> !grub | kaoz
[03:46] <ubotu> kaoz: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:46] <Beck> Hmmm.
[03:46] <kaoz> but how do i get the kernel is what i am asking?
[03:47] <nolimitsoya> kaoz, apt-get
[03:47] <kaoz> do i need to reconfigure anything or can i just dload it from synaptic?
[03:47] <hat1> would anyone here be kind enough to help me fix my resolution?
[03:47] <nolimitsoya> helpme | hat1
[03:47] <lufis> hat1: i'll try. shoot
[03:47] <nolimitsoya> !helpme
[03:47] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:47] <HymnToLife> !resolution | hat1
[03:47] <ubotu> hat1: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:47] <kaoz> like i wanna add Ubuntu-2.6.15-23-386 where do i need to start?
[03:48] <nolimitsoya> kaoz, apt-cache search 2.6.15-23-386
[03:48] <elbeto> I will try that phigh thing
[03:48] <kaoz> i am dloading linux-image-2.6.15.23 now form synaptic
[03:48] <nolimitsoya> kaoz, then you are all done
[03:48] <elbeto> lufis: soryy I had to do something
[03:48] <lufis> elbeto: no prob
[03:48] <bruenig> kaoz, it will be added automatically to the menu.lst and so you will just need to reboot when done
[03:49] <kaoz> is there anything else i need to do to get it to show up in grub?
[03:49] <elbeto> I'm gettinh a fatal error message now
[03:49] <miguel> alguien habla espaol
[03:49] <kaoz> sweet that rocks... appearantly the version of the drivers i have for my modem are precompiled for .23
[03:49] <cafuego_> con-man: or via cgi/ssi:  echo -ne '#!/bin/sh\n/usr/bin/uptime | awk "{print \$3}" | sed s/,// \n' > wrapper.cgi
[03:49] <SilentDis> !es | miguel
[03:49] <ubotu> miguel: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:49] <bruenig> kaoz, no it will show up automagically
[03:49] <kaoz> that is great... ok will be back if it dont work hehe
[03:49] <cafuego_> con-man: ... which does essentially the same as the php script.
[03:49] <lufis> elbeto: i'm sorry, what was your problem again?
[03:49] <jessid> hello. I am reading the man page for wget, but I cant find an option to specify a name for the download...some of you know what is it?  thanks
[03:49] <lufis> :P i forgot
[03:50] <kitche> jessid: what do you mean the name of the download is whatever the name of the file your getting is
[03:50] <SilentDis> cafuego_, sorry, i do some php programming from time to time, couldn't help but interject that one heh
[03:51] <HymnToLife> kitche, maybe he precisely want to chage that
[03:51] <miguel> alguien habla espaol
[03:51] <jessid> kitche i am trying to download java from sun web site, but when i use wget, it says that is cant write because it is a very long name
[03:51] <SilentDis> !es | miguel
[03:51] <ubotu> miguel: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:51] <cafuego_> /usr/bin/uptime | awk -F 'up' '{print $2}' | awk -F',' '{print $1}'
[03:52] <cafuego_> That does *exactly* the same as the php script :-)
[03:52] <kitche> jessid: well to even download the java thing you have to agree to their license anyways
[03:52] <HymnToLife> jessid, wget http://foo/bar -O - > baz
[03:52] <cafuego_> SilentDis: I wonder if it would be quicker in PHP to parse the contents of /proc/uptime rather than spawning a shell.
[03:52] <kitche> jessid: so techinally you can't use wget to grab it
[03:53] <lufis> hat1: :(
[03:53] <HymnToLife> kitche, why not ?
[03:53] <hat1> !resolution
[03:53] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:53] <HymnToLife> changing the name of the output file is pretty easy
[03:53] <Pie-rate> ./rushing_bender: error while loading shared libraries: libaviplay-0.7.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:53] <particleman> hmm...
[03:53] <SilentDis> cafuego_, good point.  I only found a need to do that once, and that script satisfied it.  never needed to display uptime, other than to sysadmins at 'control consoles' and the like ;)
[03:53] <kitche> HymnToLife: you have to agree to their license on their webpage to grab the java tarball
[03:53] <particleman> are horizontal sync and vertical refresh ranges usually the same?
[03:53] <HymnToLife> oh, right
[03:53] <HymnToLife> I'll take your word for it :p
[03:54] <lufis> particleman: i don't know, it depends on the monitor
[03:54] <lufis> it should be in the manual
[03:54] <jessid> HymnToLife yes you are right...now it is working
[03:54] <olihah> Hi all.
[03:54] <HymnToLife> Paavo, I've neve ever seen a monitor with the same HorizSync and VertRefresh
[03:54] <jessid> kitche yes, i have already agreed...
[03:54] <HymnToLife> particleman*
[03:54] <olihah> Happy New Year everyone!
[03:54] <cafuego_> SilentDis: Hmmyes, but it'll add the timezone offset to your uptime :-)
[03:55] <jessid> kitche listen to HymnToLife, jejeje  thanks both of you...
[03:55] <SilentDis> cafuego_, lmao
[03:55] <particleman> damnit...can't find the h-refresh
[03:56] <kitche> jessid: well if you have then you have to grab from their website you can't use wget to grab it I have tried
[03:56] <cafuego_> particleman: You shouldn't need to enter those, just pick "Simple" in the screen config.
[03:56] <SilentDis> particleman, you know... i remember checking the BACK of my monitor once for that info...  stupid as it sounds, it was there.  lol
[03:56] <Ace2016> Anyone know an app that'll let me plugin my phone into my computer and text from here? its faster just to type on here
[03:56] <bruenig> email...
[03:56] <Ace2016> na i want to text
[03:56] <Pie-rate> I have a problem with the game "rushing bender," when i run it it gives the following error: "./rushing_bender: error while loading shared libraries: libaviplay-0.7.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[03:56] <HymnToLife> kitche, I've tried id and it works.. using a FF plugin to download with whget :)
[03:56] <jessid> kitche I will tell you in a while...
[03:57] <particleman> cafuego-thing is it's blinking like the refresh rate isn't right
[03:57] <elbeto> lufis: I reinstalled the xerver and I will see if that helps
[03:57] <cafuego_> hrm
[03:57] <bruenig> !info gammu
[03:57] <ubotu> gammu: Mobile phone management utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.07.00-1 (edgy), package size 281 kB, installed size 1032 kB
[03:57] <jessid> HymnToLife it is dowloading . I dont know if i have installed that plugin...
[03:57] <lufis> elbeto: No, don't do that.
[03:57] <bruenig> !info smssend
[03:57] <ubotu> smssend: Utility to send SMS messages to GSM mobile phones. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 87 kB, installed size 688 kB
[03:58] <clouseau_> I am running Ubuntu 6.06 on Parallels and would like to mount an OS X directory
[03:58] <SilentDis> take care all.  off to make dindin :)
[03:58] <clouseau_> I have Windows File Sharing on on OS X
[03:58] <kitche> HymnToLife: hmm Instead -o log that's according to man wget it just makes a log
[03:58] <elbeto> lufis:too late :(
[03:58] <particleman> hmm
[03:58] <lufis> elbeto: it's ok, i was just going to suggest something easier :P
[03:58] <particleman> what happens if I leave the h-refresh blank?
[03:58] <lifepositive> i have a Error window poped up and now I cant close it!  Any solutions please?
[03:58] <drivingmenuts> does anyoen know about ATA ERROR
[03:59] <clouseau_> I'm trying to do mount -t smbfs //my.ip.address/ but no dice
[03:59] <kitche> HymnToLife: where can I get this wget plugin for firefox?
[03:59] <drivingmenuts> does anyone know about XLDR ATA ERROR?
[03:59] <elbeto> Lufis: I take any advice because it didn't help neither
[03:59] <lufis> particleman: don't. google your monitor model and the word "specifications"
[03:59] <HymnToLife> kitche, it's callef FlashGot, you can get it from mozilla.com
[04:00] <lufis> elbeto: Did you try reconfiguring X?
[04:00] <HymnToLife> callef*
[04:00] <HymnToLife> called*
[04:00] <Pie-rate> jschall@jon:~/rushing_bender$ ./rushing_bender.sh
[04:00] <Pie-rate> ./rushing_bender: error while loading shared libraries: libaviplay-0.7.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:00] <Pie-rate> jschall@jon:~/rushing_bender$ sudo find / -name *libaviplay*
[04:00] <Pie-rate> jschall@jon:~/rushing_bender$ apt-cache search libaviplay
[04:00] <Pie-rate> jschall@jon:~/rushing_bender$
[04:00] <name> is there a program to cut a region out of a window?
[04:00] <kitche> HymnToLife: hmm hen I put in wget on the extension part I got DownloadWith
[04:00] <HymnToLife> (it actually doesn't use wget directly but can use gwget, which is a GUI for wget)
[04:00] <Pie-rate> googled the error, nothing about it
[04:01] <hat1> okay.  i have an Intel 945GM/GMS/940GML video card.  How. the. hell. do i change the resolution?
[04:01] <HymnToLife> !915resolution | hat1
[04:01] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[04:01] <hat1> FUCK I TRIED THAT IT WON'T INSTALL
[04:01] <HymnToLife> !caps
[04:01] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:01] <bruenig> !caps
[04:01] <Pie-rate> !ohmy
[04:01] <HymnToLife> !language
[04:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:01] <bruenig> !language
[04:01] <sIc> !help
[04:01] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:01] <StunBo> I installed mandriva and the 3d effects are awesome....can i get that under ubuntu?
[04:01] <particleman> not helping....
[04:02] <hat1> okay.  how do i download the 915resolution package?
[04:02] <lufis> particleman: do you mind if i PM you?
[04:02] <Pie-rate> StunBo: try beryl, http://beryl-project.org
[04:02] <HymnToLife> hat1, sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[04:02] <kitche> HymnToLife: hmm seems liek it grabs all the links on a page :(
[04:02] <hat1> that didn't work for me before but i'll try again
[04:02] <HymnToLife> kitche, it can grab just one too
[04:02] <bruenig> hat1, it is in universe make sure you have that enabled
[04:02] <particleman> lufis no prob
[04:03] <lufis> ok
[04:03] <HymnToLife> if you right clich on a link, you have "FlashGot link"
[04:03] <hat1> how do i make sure it's enabled?
[04:03] <particleman> sorry...I'm probably doing something dumbass here
[04:03] <StunBo> I tried beryl but it crashed the whole system
[04:03] <HymnToLife> it also appears when you click on a file, with Open / Save as
[04:03] <bruenig> hat1, are you using edgy or dapper?
[04:03] <alexander> hey all
[04:03] <hat1> i think edgy
[04:03] <lufis> particleman: did you get my pm?
[04:03] <alexander> can someone help me out? im kinda new... :(
[04:03] <bruenig> hat1, copy and paste the following in the terminal, the whole thing: sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/edgy universe/edgy universe multiverse/g' -e 's/edgy-security universe/edgy-security universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[04:03] <particleman> hmm
[04:03] <particleman> no
[04:04] <HymnToLife> alenax, just ask your question and we'll try :)
[04:04] <HymnToLife> alexander*
[04:04] <hat1> workin now! thanks
[04:04] <StunBo> How do you get your screen to rotate like a cube?
[04:04] <alexander> HymnToLife, well i installed firestarter
[04:04] <welly> does anyone have any suggestions to my problem re: apache 2.2.3?
[04:05] <alexander> HymnToLife, now im trying to get the thing to start automaticly when i log in
[04:05] <hat1> Patch mode 5c to resolution 1280x800 complete
[04:05] <hat1> 915resolution.
[04:05] <jessid> ubotu, I am just curious...do you feel unconfortable just if some one writes in UPERCASES?
[04:05] <hat1> if i restart will it be in 1280?
[04:05] <alexander> HymnToLife, i went and found the page were i have to make the changes (under the FAQ) but for some reason i cant get the thing to work
[04:05] <VerdRousseau> do most people have both kde and gnome installed?
[04:05] <jessid> oh my god, i am talking to a robot, jejeje
[04:05] <particleman> lufis-I just tried private chatting you
[04:06] <particleman> not working either?
[04:06] <bruenig> alexander, there are many threads at ubuntuforums.org about that. Just search for: firestarter startup
[04:06] <HymnToLife> VerdRousseau, I used to, until I realized I never used GNOME :p
[04:06] <klees> is there a way to have Amarok start faster??
[04:06] <bruenig> klees, no
[04:06] <HymnToLife> klees, get more RAM
[04:06] <VerdRousseau> Yeh cause just installed KDE and I have all these things in my apps
[04:06] <bruenig> klees, get faster cpu
[04:06] <klees> or better yet, have Kdeinit and Klauncher start before Gnome starts up?
[04:07] <bruenig> wow he answered his own question
[04:07] <bruenig> klees, get listen: http://listengnome.free.fr/
[04:07] <kkerwin> Hi. I can't find /proc/config.gz or anything in /etc that resembles a kernel config. How might I find the original kernel config for the default ubuntu kernel?
[04:07] <alekzandr> i have edgy installed, and want to try kubuntu, what do i need to install to do that?
[04:07] <bruenig> alekzandr, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:08] <lufis> particleman: are you getting my messages?
[04:08] <alekzandr> thanks
[04:08] <HymnToLife> alekzandr, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[04:08] <bruenig> alekzandr, after that massive thing finishes, just log out and then you should be able to pick between a gnome and kde session
[04:08] <particleman> lufis-no
[04:08] <bruenig> apt-get
[04:08] <HymnToLife> (aptitude instead of apt-get makes it easier to remove it if you even want to)
[04:08] <lufis> particleman: huh. one sec, sorry
[04:08] <particleman> wierd
[04:08] <bruenig> apt-get now has autoremove so it is no different
[04:08] <particleman> *sigh*
[04:09] <lufis> particleman: are you on any other im networks?>
[04:09] <lufis> particleman: my pm's aren't going thru i don't guess
[04:09] <alekzandr> edgy is working perfectly on my notebook, better than breezy, i rarely boot into windows anymore
[04:10] <klees> bruenig: what's the latest stable version of Listen?
[04:10] <bruenig> klees, it is in the repos. .4 I think, but .5 beta is much better.
[04:10] <klees> bruenig: .5 beta is not in the repos
[04:10] <amk> what kind of lappy alekzandr?
[04:10] <bruenig> klees, they have a repo on that site, let me find it
[04:11] <kkerwin> Hi. I need to take a look at the default ubuntu kernel config to see if a driver was either built statically into the kernel, or as a module. Where can I find the kernel config? It doesn't appear in /proc/config.gz.
[04:11] <particleman> lufis-bugger
[04:11] <klees> bruenig: yeah saw it
[04:11] <particleman> aim is part1cle
[04:11] <particleman> Y!im is particle_mann
[04:11] <alekzandr> hp livestrong
[04:11] <lufis> ok
[04:11] <particleman> take your pick :)
[04:11] <lufis> :P okay
[04:11] <bruenig> klees, yeah get that dapper unstable repo
[04:11] <alekzandr> the only thing i cannot do now is get my blackberry to work as a modem under linux
[04:11] <bimberi> kkerwin: /boot/config*
[04:11] <kkerwin> bimberi: Thank you.
[04:12] <alekzandr> i would pay money for that
[04:12] <carkeys> hey all.  just one quick question: whats the name of the next ubuntu release and when does it coe out (apromimently)
[04:12] <carkeys> come*
[04:12] <bimberi> kkerwin: np :)
[04:12] <bruenig> klees, or if you just want the deb, it is here http://theli.free.fr/packages/pool/listen-unstable/l/listen/listen_0.5-beta1-7_i386.deb
[04:12] <jbroome> !release | carkeys
[04:12] <ubotu> carkeys: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[04:12] <klees> bruenig: thanks
[04:12] <carkeys> jbroome/ubotu... thanks
[04:12] <tickeshe> hello pipz
[04:13] <tickeshe> happy new year to all
[04:13] <alekzandr> does anyone know who to contact about getting support for a blackberry as a usb device?
[04:13] <arrenlex> tickeshe: *hic*
[04:14] <carkeys> so the next verison of ubuntu wont be out until arround april?
[04:14] <bimberi> carkeys: yes
[04:14] <arrenlex> !feisty | carkeys
[04:14] <ubotu> carkeys: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[04:14] <tickeshe> does anyone know how to make dialup connection faster? i tried to install this driver from linuxant and it only give me a 14kbps speed
[04:14] <bruenig> what would be a good low resource music player. All I have are ogg so a whole bunch of support for internet radio and stuff isn't necessary
[04:15] <Madpilot> bruenig, try Muine
[04:15] <arrenlex> bruenig: ogg123
[04:15] <CzarAlex> Is there a nifty SSH client with an address book and stuff thats in the edgy repos?
[04:15] <arrenlex> bruenig: Actually music123
[04:15] <carkeys> one last question then. would i be better off useing x64 or x86? (i would like beryl support and i have a nvidia 7800)
[04:15] <fatlip> quick question
[04:15] <fatlip> how do i change my screen resolution?
[04:16] <fatlip> 75 is my only option
[04:16] <fatlip> but i want 60
[04:16] <carkeys> fatlip:
[04:16] <carkeys> thats in the xorg.conf file
[04:16] <alexander> hey does anyone know a DVD making tool? like for making home style DVD of birthdays and stuff?
[04:16] <fatlip> i'm looking at xorg
[04:16] <tickeshe> fatlip: try xrandr
[04:16] <name> that's not the resolution
[04:16] <name> lol
[04:16] <fatlip> and i dont see it
[04:16] <carkeys> if it cant be chaned from the prefrences
[04:16] <bimberi> CzarAlex: putty
[04:16] <carkeys> name is right... thats teh refresh rate
[04:16] <ao_guest_190> hi everyone
[04:17] <Madpilot> fatlip, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:17] <fatlip> 	VertRefresh	50-160
[04:17] <alexander> hey does anyone know a DVD making tool? like for making home style DVD of birthdays and stuff?
[04:17] <tickeshe> fatlip: /etc/X11
[04:17] <carkeys> fatlip: no, you have to specify individual video modes
[04:17] <CzarAlex> alexander: like to edit them and create them?
[04:17] <tickeshe> does anyone know how to make dialup connection faster? i tried to install this driver from linuxant and it only give me a 14kbps speed
[04:18] <carkeys> one last question then. would i be better off useing x64 or x86? (i would like beryl support and i have a nvidia 7800)
[04:18] <name> do you have x64?
[04:18] <carkeys> yes
[04:18] <name> there are less pkgs afaik but
[04:18] <alexander> CzarAlex, ya... like i have some clips and pictures off of my Digital camera, and know I want to make a DVD off of it. like with menus and titles
[04:18] <carkeys> i would *like* to get my moneys worth and use all of the porc
[04:18] <arrenlex> carkeys: You are better off using 32-bit. For desktops, you will not notice a performance difference, and 32-bit is more compatible.
[04:18] <VerdRousseau> In Kde does anyone know what the difference between a Shell, terminal, and konsole are
[04:18] <carkeys> but... if it will save me the hassle, ill stick to x86
[04:18] <CzarAlex> VerdRousseau: I believe they're all the same.
[04:19] <ao_guest_190> i just bought a archos 80GB 504 this month and i would like to know its hidden features or something like that u know like a emulator for some roms or something like that, who ever can help me please private me plz thank you
[04:19] <kkerwin> VerdRousseau: They are all the same.
[04:19] <VerdRousseau> thats wierd how they give you all teh same thing
[04:19] <arrenlex> VerdRousseau: Your shell is the program that executes commands. i.e. /bin/sh
[04:19] <name> is there a grapical recoding tool
[04:19] <CzarAlex> alexander: I recently tried to search for just that kinda thing. I was unable to find one i liked but some names to search for are kino and diva
[04:19] <name> for videos?
[04:19] <arrenlex> VerdRousseau: Your terminal is whatever is running the shell, be it a text console or a console emulator.
[04:19] <klees> bruenig: does Listen support Equalizer?
[04:19] <arrenlex> VerdRousseau: konsole is a terminal. It is a console emulator.
[04:19] <CzarAlex> Anyone know of an SSH client with an address book?
[04:20] <carkeys> arrenlex: ive used a x64 desktop and with multiple applications i was a tad faster and much more responsive than a 32 bit mchine
[04:20] <kitche>  CzarAlex only one that I know is putty
[04:20] <bruenig> klees, don't know what that is
[04:20] <arrenlex> carkeys: Placebo.
[04:20] <alexander> CzarAlex, Ty... ill take a look... TY alot!
[04:20] <klees> bruenig: Presets
[04:20] <CzarAlex> kitche: Thanky.
[04:20] <CzarAlex> alexander: no prob!
[04:21] <carkeys> arrenlex: i have a feeling your right. however, w/ ~ 15 applications open, they jsut seemed faster (and i timed a few of them loading... faster than 32 by a few sec)
[04:21] <bruenig> klees, I don't know, I used it for a while, worked great, but it have very little RAM. Just try it out and see, at the very worse, all you have to do is sudo apt-get remove listen
[04:21] <bruenig> but I have*
[04:21] <arrenlex> carkeys: If you were looking at two identical machines, one 32-bit and one 64-bit, and explored each one, running the same applications and messing with the desktop, there is no way in hell you'd guess which was witch.
[04:21] <budluva> hey anyone here tried openarena yet?
[04:22] <arrenlex> carkeys: Even if you look at sites that feature comparisons of 32-bit vs. 64-bit computers doing the same operations, you'll see about half the things are faster and half are slower.
[04:22] <jessid> kitche yes. it is done...I downloaded jdk using wget... good bye...happy new year!
[04:22] <budluva> just wondering if regular q3a mods work for openarena
[04:22] <arrenlex> carkeys: Further, because of bloated memory addresses, your executables will be larger.
[04:23] <carkeys> arrenlex: your right about that.. it does depend on the specific application, and i use 32bit vista instead of 64 because of the smaller memory addresses
[04:23] <clouseau_> where do you find the "Places" menu?
[04:23] <particleman_> am I back?
[04:23] <arrenlex> carkeys: It's not to say that 64-bit poses no advantages. But you'd have to write your programs to make use of them. If you just compile a program with a 64-bit instruction set, which is what's currently done, there are no benefits.
[04:23] <clouseau_> is there a package I need to install for the Places menu to show up?
[04:24] <klees> under Synaptic Package Manager how can i search for multiple packages?
[04:24] <carkeys> arrenlex: im not a developer (i do web pages, not comp aps.), ill take your word for it; it probably is jsut a placebo
[04:24] <m0dY> why when i mount a dir to another dir as a read-only by using the -o ro,usrquota --bind flag it is still mounted as re-writeable ?
[04:26] <hat1> !java
[04:26] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:27] <amk> what does the flag in /proc/sys/kernel/ctrl-alt-del control?
[04:27] <amk> just a random questions...
[04:27] <amk> -s
[04:28] <particleman_> great...I'm ghosting
[04:28] <clouseau_> is there even a Places menu in the default Ubuntu install?
[04:28] <particleman_> lufis-you still around?
[04:28] <clouseau_> or are the docs outdated?
[04:28] <particleman_> I think I got booted a while back
[04:29] <kitche> clouseau_: yes check under System
[04:29] <m0dY> why when i mount a dir to another dir as a read-only by using the -o ro,usrquota --bind flag it is still mounted as re-writeable ?
[04:29] <clouseau_> kitche: no Places under System
[04:30] <kitche> m0dY: I m just guessing here but probably because the other directory is rw
[04:31] <fatlip> okay i got how to change the refresh rate
[04:32] <elbeto> I logged into ubuntu after a restart and I get a blank screen
[04:32] <fatlip> how do i find my monitors HSync? i dont see it in the manual, just vsync
[04:32] <carkeys> fatlip: it might be displayed through the OSD
[04:32] <fatlip> ahh yes
[04:32] <fatlip> nope
[04:32] <carkeys> hmm
[04:32] <fatlip> only whats in use via vsync
[04:33] <carkeys> what monitor do you have?
[04:33] <fatlip> i just got it
[04:33] <m0dY> kitche, i think it's something with the mount command !?!?
[04:33] <fatlip> lemme see the model
[04:33] <fatlip> LG L194WT
[04:33] <mebaran151> where could I go to vlc advice
[04:33] <mebaran151> I want to watch a wmv3 movie, but it complains about fourcc
[04:33] <particleman_> fatlip-you and I are having the same problem
[04:33] <fatlip> i'm trying to drop my refresh rate to 60
[04:34] <fatlip> so beryl runs smooth ;)
[04:34] <particleman_> I've got a Toshiba DVD/tv/monitor combo that doesn't want to work right
[04:34] <elbeto> I logged into ubuntu after a restart and I get a blank screen
[04:34] <carkeys> fatlip: i cnat find it either.
[04:34] <carkeys> cant*
[04:34] <carkeys> jsut use default in xorg.conf ?
[04:35] <fatlip> i'm gunna have to
[04:36] <fatlip> time to test
[04:36] <m0dY> kitche, checked chmod'ing folder to 000 and mounted and nothing changed
[04:37] <elbeto> I logged into ubuntu after a restart and I get a blank screen, I'm in deep shit, help!
[04:37] <carkeys> elbeto: what did oyu do before you logged out
[04:37] <carkeys> you*
[04:39] <elbeto> I was doing a lot of things, I was playing with the system, one of the things I've tried was to change the resolution but it didn't work. I already tried to reconfigure xserver-xorg and it didn't work. I tried to reinstall the xserver and i'm agetting an error message
[04:39] <carkeys> wat error msg?
[04:39] <carkeys> and did you backup your xorg.conf file?
[04:40] <pr0gress0r> Hi all, Happy New Year, Im installing ubunto after a failed fedora 6 system. Quick question. Can I get the latest software for kde, firefox etc etc from certain apt repos or am i going to need to install from each site?
[04:41] <carkeys> pr0gres.: ya. most of that should automacally update
[04:41] <amk> I've come across tons of kde software in the repos
[04:41] <elbeto> Car: I think it backed up automatically. After I tried to reinstall the xserver I typed startx and I'm getting Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0
[04:41] <pr0gress0r> well ive done the dist-upgrade and its only at kde 3.5.2 ( i wanted 3.5.5 ) and firefox 1.5
[04:41] <carkeys> why did yo utry to reinstall it?
[04:41] <fatlip> okay i tried to reconfigure xorg, and i manually did it
[04:41] <pr0gress0r> maybe i dont have all the apt repos configured
[04:41] <fatlip> still no dice
[04:41] <kitche> pr0gress0r: ubuntu edgy has firefox 2.0
[04:41] <carkeys> pr0: what version of ubuntu did you install?
[04:41] <fatlip> wont drop below 75
[04:41] <fatlip> i need 60 :(
[04:42] <elbeto> Becuasu I though that something got screwed up and it will be better to reinstall it
[04:42] <Dasnipa`> pr0gress0r, well its 'latest' actually. the packages are frozen to the versions available at release for instance gaim is version 2.0 beta 3 despite gaim currently being at beta5
[04:42] <pr0gress0r> ive got ubuntu 6.06.1
[04:43] <carkeys> fatlip: i get that too: the ubuntu system preferences says my resolution is at 1024. but its 19 x 12
[04:43] <eztk_> fatlip i had a similar problem with nvidia card and dell LCD monitor, it needed to be on 60 but the damn thing was stuck on 75 hz or something
[04:43] <carkeys> as long as it works in xorg.conf file it should be fine
[04:43] <eztk_> fatlip: i had to edit xorg.conf to make it work
[04:43] <Dasnipa`> pr0gress0r, yes the packages are updated every 6 months corresponding with the newest release
[04:43] <fatlip> i did
[04:43] <fatlip> mine says vsync is 60
[04:43] <pr0gress0r> can I tell this thing to upgrade to the latest ubunto version?
[04:43] <fatlip> but in ubuntu options its 75
[04:43] <eztk_> fatlip: i did that as well.. it wont work. let me pastebin.ca my xorg.conf, ok?
[04:44] <eztk_> fatlip: you have to do a bit more
[04:44] <carkeys> albeto: it sounds like you didnt fully uninstall the first version. i doont know how to help you with that
[04:44] <fatlip> alright
[04:44] <pr0gress0r> can I do a update to get to the latest ubunto kernel and dist?
[04:45] <Dasnipa`> pr0gress0r, yes you can
[04:45] <Madpilot> ubotu, upgrade | pr0gress0r
[04:45] <ubotu> pr0gress0r: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:45] <Dasnipa`> let me get a url for you.
[04:45] <pr0gress0r> Dasnipa`: excellent.
[04:45] <pr0gress0r> thanks a ton!
[04:45] <Madpilot> Dasnipa`, the URL the bot just provided? ;)
[04:45] <Dasnipa`> Madpilot, yes of course i was a second away from typing that
[04:46] <jengc0il> hello world
[04:46] <Dasnipa`> though i would have used the > output operator instead of the pipe but thats just personal preference
[04:46] <SyncopatedFool> how do i run windows media files on mozilla in linux?  what packages do i need?
[04:46] <eztk_> fatlip: http://pastebin.ca/300379
[04:46] <bruenig> !info mozilla-mplayer
[04:46] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 1616 kB
[04:46] <SyncopatedFool> ty bruenig
[04:46] <eztk_> fatlip: note the last few lines ok? the subsection with  Modes "1280x1024_60.00" in it
[04:47] <fatlip> yes i see
[04:47] <fatlip> is that what i have to do?
[04:47] <eztk_> fatlip: after you added those lines for the subsection (make sure it matches what i show you), you have to restart your window manager
[04:47] <eztk_> fatlip: some people do ctrl+backspace or something
[04:48] <SyncopatedFool> wait, i already have that installed, i'm pretty sure this is not the only package i need to install, because i remember having to install multiple packages on my friend's box the other week, i just forgot the printed list there
[04:48] <eztk_> fatlip: it worked for me after much struggling! lol
[04:48] <carkeys> fatlip: yes, ctrl + alt +bkspce works to reset the windos manager
[04:48] <eztk_> fatlip: dont forget to do the uncommenting above it as well ... # >> uncommenting
[04:49] <fatlip> okay i'm gunna try it out now
[04:49] <eztk_> fatlip: good luck
[04:49] <fatlip> brb!
[04:49] <fatlip> NICE!
[04:50] <fatlip> it worked!! thanks :)
[04:50] <SyncopatedFool> !info restricted-formats
[04:50] <ubotu> Package restricted-formats does not exist in any distro I know
[04:50] <eztk_> fatlip, no problem :)
[04:50] <fatlip> now lets see if beryl runs smoother
[04:50] <eztk_> fatlip: i find disabling a few options makes beryl smoother. vsync and refresh rate something or another....
[04:50] <exs> guys, what's the best way to speed up windows xp under vmware?
[04:51] <jroes_> how can I execute a command like "sudo iwconfig ra0 essid networkname" on startup?
[04:51] <Dasnipa`> 'speed up windows'? get the devs to build a better OS
[04:51] <doviende> exs: ask on a windows channel?
[04:51] <kitche> exs probably give it more ram
[04:51] <eztk_> fatlip: also do not be confused by this XGL thing like I was... default gnome on ubuntu (at least on 6.10) gives built in aiglex
[04:51] <eztk_> aiglx i mean
[04:51] <doviende> haha, ya, give it a ton of ram
[04:51] <eztk_> that will support direct rendering
[04:51] <fatlip> yeah originally i was using xgl and it was smooth and everything
[04:52] <fatlip> then i did a reinstall of ubuntu
[04:52] <eztk_> i found xgl didnt allow nvidia driver to do direct rendering
[04:52] <fatlip> used aiglx, and now its kinda choppy
[04:52] <eztk_> fatlip: i will dump my xorg.conf in full for you, ok?
[04:52] <kitche> eztk_: well it does but xgl doesn't allow any card to
[04:52] <eztk_> kitche: ok
[04:52] <fatlip> what'd you change?
[04:52] <eztk_> fatlip: i will give u a link
[04:53] <linuxeatswindows>  I <3 beryl
[04:53] <xtian> if i wanted to echo something in 2 lines, how would i put a new line character in string to be echoed?
[04:53] <eztk_> fatlip: http://pastebin.ca/300387
[04:53] <mebaran151> grabbing a new torrent
[04:53] <levander> Apparently, I used to have java-gcj on my system.  It's purged now, but there are still some files it left on the file system: /etc/alternatives/rmic.1.gz which is a link to a file which does not exist, /usr/bin/java which is a link to /etc/alternatives/java which is a link to a file in /usr/lib that does not exist.  I hate messing with files that are part of the "base" system and not use the package manager.  But, would you guys just
[04:53] <levander> go ahead and delete these files?
[04:53] <klees> is there a way to have Kdeinit and Klauncher start before Gnome starts up???
[04:53] <mebaran151> of FLCL to reproduce the rip from my friend
[04:54] <eztk_> fatlip: i turned on things like triple buffering
[04:54] <mebaran151> stupid wmv9 complex profile that isn't compatible
[04:54] <doviende> levander: use "update-alternatives" to mess with the symlinks
[04:54] <fatlip> what card you got?
[04:54] <fatlip> i'm running a 5500
[04:54] <eztk_> fatlip: you may want to also check out #beryl
[04:54] <eztk_> fatlip: im running an fx5200, so i use the latest nvidia drivers
[04:54] <eztk_> fatlip: the wiki for beryl is very good, explains what you need to do
[04:55] <doviende> levander: it lets you have multiple versions of something, like java or x-terminal-emulator, and you use update-alternatives to pick your preferred one
[04:55] <xtian> how do i get echo to print text on more than one line?
[04:55] <xtian> nvm, its -e and then \n
[04:56] <fatlip> #
[04:56] <fatlip>     Option         "NoLogo"
[04:56] <kitche> xtian: do echo text \ echo text if that's the way you want or is it the same text?
[04:56] <fatlip> whats that?
[04:56] <fatlip> whoops sorry, bad paste
[04:56] <eztk_> fatlip: stops the nvidia logo coming up
[04:56] <eztk_> fatlip: when u start Xor
[04:56] <eztk_> xorg
[04:56] <fatlip> oh mine doesnt show up anyway lol
[04:56] <eztk_> lol .. hmmm
[04:57] <Bhaskar> zorro:why not totem can nt play .dat,.mp3 file?
[04:57] <eztk_> fatlip: means you are running defaul legacy drivers!!
[04:57] <fatlip> addargbglglxvisuals
[04:57] <eztk_> fatlips: thats why its slow
[04:57] <fatlip> yeah i am
[04:57] <fatlip> i didnt download the new ones
[04:57] <kitche> fatlip: what card do you have?
[04:57] <levander> doviende: I just used update-alternatives for rmic.1.gz with the --remove-all option.  Does that do anything other than "rm /etc/alternatives/rmic.1.gz"?
[04:57] <fatlip> 5500
[04:57] <xtian> kitche, i just wanted to be able to print something like "You are using Ubuntu\nWelcome!"
[04:57] <kitche> fatlip: ok get the nvidia-glx you don't need the legacy driver
[04:57] <fatlip> k
[04:57] <eztk_>    Driver         "nvidia"    <<< change nv to nvidia (as it is here now) after u install nvidia drivers
[04:58] <eztk_> fatlip,, do what kitche told you.. it will make things fly
[04:58] <fatlip> it is set to 'nvidia' now
[04:58] <xtian> kitche, but echo was just printing the \n. I just needed to use the -e option
[04:58] <fatlip> but i guess its not referring toanything
[04:58] <eztk_> and the logo will come on
[04:58] <xtian> kitche, thanks anyways
[04:58] <eztk_> unless u disable it
[04:58] <doviende> levander: uhh....i don't know exactly what it does in a certain situation, i just trust it blindly :)
[04:58] <eztk_> no, leave as nv until u install the propriety drivers from nvidia
[04:58] <fatlip> nvidia-glx is already the newest version.
[04:59] <eztk_> ok maybe u already have it
[04:59] <eztk_> then leave as nvidia
[04:59] <eztk_> was it on nv before ?
[04:59] <fatlip> it was nvidia
[04:59] <eztk_> hmmm
[04:59] <fatlip> i might have done it through automatix2 .. i dont fully remember
[04:59] <eztk_> its odd because you didnt see the logo come up
[04:59] <fatlip> should i get the beta drivers?
[04:59] <eztk_> people here hate automatix  dude, but i understand why u use it.. its easier...
[04:59] <eztk_> easyubuntu is also out there
[04:59] <eztk_> nah u dont need beta
[05:00] <Music_Shuffle> !automatix
[05:00] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:00] <Music_Shuffle> xD
[05:00] <fatlip> i actually hate automatix but i decided to give it a chance
[05:00] <kitche> xtian: with echo \n will be outputed you have to make a small script to do it with scho on both lines
[05:00] <fatlip> ANOTHER chance
[05:00] <asmcoder8> hi everyone!!!!!
[05:00] <eztk_> heh
[05:00] <fatlip> broke my X once, but then automatix2 came out
[05:00] <eztk_> the thing is, many people coming from windows etc dont want too much hassle with command prompt stuff
[05:00] <eztk_> so automatix was born i gues
[05:00] <fatlip> ehh i dont mind command line
[05:01] <fatlip> but i was in a rush
[05:01] <fatlip> ;)
[05:01] <Ahadiel> Could anyone explain to me how I link folders?
[05:01] <xtian> kitche, if you invoke the -e option, it interprets \n as a newline, rather than literally
[05:01] <jeff_> just finished installing 6.1 on a ACER 5100 with ATI Xpress 1100, cant seem to get Beryl to stop crashing everytime I do something, anybody have success?
[05:01] <eztk> fatlip: well its strange you dont see the nvidia logo when u restart the window manager... and you find slow performance
[05:01] <Bhaskar> who can say totem player is not supporting .dat/.mp3 file why???
[05:01] <doviende> Ahadiel: what do you mean by link?   could you say what you want to happen?
[05:01] <eztk> eztk: worth making sure blur effects are off
[05:02] <eztk> oops to fatlip
[05:02] <fatlip> heh it is off
[05:02] <Ahadiel> doviende: I have proftpd running on ubuntu, and I also have Apache2 running
[05:02] <kitche> xtian: hmm let me switch over to bash
[05:02] <Ahadiel> Proftpd using local users as login info
[05:02] <jarrod10_> could an ubuntu livecd resize the volume of my osx HFS+ volume on my macbook harddrive?
[05:02] <Ahadiel> and I'm trying to link a folder in someone's /home dir to link to /var/www
[05:03] <jeff_> Ahadiel, ln -s /home/folder /other/folder
[05:03] <doviende> Ahadiel: oh, you might have to turn on a "followsymlinks" option or something
[05:03] <fatlip> maybe its becuase i didnt add triple buffer this time
[05:03] <eztk> fatlip: well keep sticking at it, the rewards are great :)
[05:03] <Ahadiel> deviende how do I turn it on =/
[05:03] <fatlip> i mean its not THAT choppy
[05:03] <kitche> xtian: with e it does the same thing
[05:03] <fatlip> but its slower than it was with xgl on my old install
[05:03] <eztk> fatlip: its gone 4am in the UK, so im off to bed! lol
[05:03] <fatlip> thanks for the help :)
[05:03] <doviende> Ahadiel: have you already made a symlink that you need?   like jeff_ just said?
[05:03] <Ahadiel> I can ln -s folders, but it gives me an error when I try to access it
[05:03] <jeff_> just finished installing 6.1 on a ACER 5100 with ATI Xpress 1100, cant seem to get Beryl to stop crashing everytime I do something, anybody have success?
[05:03] <eztk> fatlip: dont forget to join #beryl channel...
[05:03] <eztk> fatlip: they helped me a lot too
[05:03] <Ahadiel> yes I've done that
[05:04] <jeff_> Ahadiel, permission
[05:04] <Ahadiel> I'm root =/
[05:04] <eztk> fatlip: this is what the linux community is about.. helping , sharing, etc :)
[05:04] <fatlip> thats what i love about it :)
[05:04] <doviende> Ahadiel: ya, usually server programs like proftpd and apache don't allow users to get out of certain directories through symlinks
[05:04] <eztk> fatlip: you're welcome. good luck :)
[05:04] <doviende> Ahadiel: it's a security feature
[05:04] <eztk> fatlip: im glad to hear it. tell your friends and enemies too ;)
[05:04] <doviende> Ahadiel: so somewhere in the settings file, you need to allow it to follow symlinks
[05:04] <Ahadiel> k
[05:04] <CzarAlex> When I hold any key on the keyboard, I can't click with my mouse, or move it. Thus I can't hold shift and select a group of object, or hold CTRL and select objects.. suggestions?
[05:04] <eztk> fatlip: see you on here sometime. bye.
[05:05] <Ahadiel> Lets say I did, ln -s /home/dude/www /var/www/dude
[05:05] <Bhaskar> eztk: u know abt totem player
[05:05] <Ahadiel> if I went to /var/www/dude I get an error
[05:05] <Ahadiel> when tryign to CD into it
[05:05] <Ahadiel> trying**
[05:05] <eztk> bhaskar: yeah
[05:05] <Ahadiel> (In bash)
[05:05] <doviende> oh, in bash?
[05:05] <Ahadiel> yes
[05:05] <doviende> Ahadiel: are they on different filesystems?
[05:05] <Ahadiel> "Devel: too many levels of system links"
[05:06] <doviende> Ahadiel: can't symlink across filesystems
[05:06] <Ahadiel> heh?
[05:06] <doviende> Ahadiel: like different partitions
[05:06] <eztk> bhaskar: you may have to ask the channel. i need sleep.. 4.06am here ;)
[05:06] <Bhaskar> eztk: my totem player can not play .dat and .mp3 file why??
[05:06] <Ahadiel> its on the same partition
[05:06] <fatlip> well that was it
[05:06] <fatlip> i needed triplebuffer
[05:06] <doviende> Ahadiel: oh, did you get that message from bash?  about the levels of system links?
[05:06] <Ahadiel> yes
[05:06] <eztk> !mp3
[05:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:07] <doviende> Ahadiel: crazy...i haven't seen that before
[05:07] <eztk> !mp3 | bhaskar
[05:07] <doviende> Ahadiel: google the error?
[05:07] <ubotu> bhaskar: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:07] <Ahadiel> k
[05:07] <eztk> bhaskar: i hope that helps. i'd hang around but I need sleep. bye!
[05:07] <theflyingfool> i have been trying to reinstall edgy for the last hour and for what ever reason it keeps failing
[05:07] <xtian> kitche, not for me, try     echo -e "this is ubuntu\nwelcome"
[05:08] <kitche> xtian: ah your putting it in quotes see I am not
[05:08] <doviende> theflyingfool: got a specific problem to tell us?
[05:08] <doviende> theflyingfool: we can't read minds ;)
[05:08] <kitche> xtian: I m use to the no quote way that's why :P
[05:08] <enigma32> I've got a specific problem
[05:08] <theflyingfool> it keeps coming with broken packages
[05:08] <jeff_> seems #beryl is quiet, real quiet, are thay on break?, haha
[05:08] <theflyingfool> so i tested the cd and it said it was fine
[05:09] <xtian> kitche, gotcha, i was using it to generate a shell script without an editor, just adding a few lines to a file using redirection
[05:09] <zacharypruckowsk> complicated question.  Anyone have a second?
[05:10] <doviende> xtian:   cat >> myfile.txt
[05:10] <doviende> xtian: then type stuff
[05:10] <doviende> xtian: hit enter if you want
[05:10] <theflyingfool> i have tried with two differnt edgy cds with the same problems
[05:10] <doviende> xtian: then ctrl-d when you're done
[05:10] <kitche> xtian: you mean liek echo -e "Welcome to Ubuntu\nWelcome >> file
[05:10] <ianthepetrock> I have just installed webalizer from apt, how do i access it?
[05:10] <madman91> does Ubuntu hate debian?
[05:10] <jbroome> do you hate freedom?
[05:10] <kitche> doviende: you don't even need to do cat for what he wants
[05:10] <kitche> !debian|madman91
[05:10] <ubotu> madman91: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[05:10] <Madpilot> madman91, no. Ubuntu couldn't exist without Debian...
[05:11] <zacharypruckowsk> if I install Ubuntu in a virtual machine, is it going to matter that I'm using an unsupported DVD drive?
[05:11] <xtian> kitche, oh youre right! haha, i completely forgot about that
[05:11] <elbeto> Problem here: nothing happen after login. Brown screen, can move the mouse but nothing else happens
[05:11] <xtian> kitche, good call on that one
[05:12] <kitche> xtian: not sure if it will put the echo -e part in it though
[05:12] <elbeto> After some gdm restarting and reconfiguring it changed my resolution
[05:12] <ianthepetrock> I have just installed webalizer from apt, how do i access it?
[05:12] <enigma32> Question:  I'm trying to install 6.10 and it keeps crashing at various points during the install... usually with the disc spinning and no control of the machine. Tried the alternate install but get a white screen that looks like a display driver issue....
[05:13] <madman91> Madpilot: i know.. but when i googled ubuntu vs debian . there is some major hate going n
[05:13] <tehArtist> Hey everyone, just wanted to say, I got my Disc Drive problem fixed with Ubuntu, and finally got the LiveCD install working..now I'm stuck in the install (this is my first *nix install in a long time). I have an unallocated amount of space on the HDD set aside for Ubuntu...
[05:13] <Madpilot> madman91, well, there's some awfully silly things being said
[05:13] <kitche> xtian: nope it doesn't
[05:13] <elbeto> Problem here: nothing happen after login. Brown screen, can move the mouse but nothing else happens
[05:13] <madman91> madman91: does shuttleworth ever come into #ubuntu :D ?
[05:13] <xtian> kitche, to be exact, i was adding a few lines to a file, using echo -e "date\necho \"Users Currently Logged In\"\nwho" >> whoson
[05:13] <tehArtist> I'm not sure how to do the swap/root stuff...
[05:13] <NickGarvey> madman91, talking to yourself? :)
[05:14] <elbeto> Problem here: nothing happen after login. Brown screen, can move the mouse but nothing else happens
[05:14] <xtian> kitche, im new to linux, and am reading a book and just doing examples for myself, no real problems to conquer, yet
[05:14] <madman91> NickGarvey: yes ,, yes i am
[05:14] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, swap is part of your hard drive that is used as RAM
[05:14] <madman91> Madpilot:  does shuttleworth ever come into #ubuntu :D ?
[05:14] <doviende> xtian: ya, i tihnk it'd be easier to just do    cat >> whoson
[05:14] <Madpilot> tehArtist, depends on how much space you've got to play in. I'd got w/ 5-10 Gb for root, maybe 1Gb for /swap
[05:14] <doviende> xtian: and then type stuff
[05:14] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, root is similar to C:\ in windows
[05:14] <Madpilot> madman91, not #ubuntu, no, but he is on other Ubuntu irc channels
[05:14] <kitche> xtian: I haven't done vig bash programming in a while
[05:14] <kitche> vig/big
[05:15] <tehArtist> Well, I have set aside 75.10 GiB since I have such a large HDD
[05:15] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, 75 for swap or for root?
[05:15] <madman91> Madpilot: thats crazy
[05:15] <xtian> kitche, yea, cat would definitely be the best way to go. vig?
[05:15] <tehArtist> I need to split that 75.10 and set aside 1Gib for Swap
[05:15] <tehArtist> correct?
[05:15] <madman91> Madpilot: the linux word is so small... try getting B. Gates on a channel
[05:15] <Madpilot> madman91, yeah, it's cool
[05:15] <kitche> xtian: vig was suppose to be big
[05:15] <doviende> tehArtist: probably 300MB of swap is lots, unless you need more for laptop hibernation
[05:15] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, yeah, sounds good, you might do 1.5G if you don't have much RAM
[05:15] <xtian> kitche, oh gotcha, thanks for the help
[05:15] <Madpilot> tehArtist, you should have a seperate / (root) partition too
[05:16] <tehArtist> I have 1 gig of ram
[05:16] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, If you have n Mb of ram, you need between n and 2*n Mb of swap.
[05:16] <doviende> tehArtist: are you on a laptop that needs to suspend-to-disk?
[05:16] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, If you have a disk big enough, just put 2*n Mb swap
[05:16] <kitche> tehArtist: hmm swap isn't needed unless you want suspend or hibrate
[05:16] <doviende> NickGarvey: that's an old recomendation
[05:16] <doviende> NickGarvey: taht's from the days of 32MB of ram
[05:16] <NickGarvey> doviende, fix the !swap article then heh
[05:16] <tehArtist> no, I have ubuntu on my laptop running great
[05:16] <tehArtist> my desktop is an OEM
[05:17] <tehArtist> and being a pain in the arse about taking the ubuntu install
[05:17] <kitche> doviende: actually it's still recommended linux cna go into swap storms
[05:17] <theflyingfool> during install why would files come up corrupt
[05:17] <theflyingfool> after testing the disc
[05:17] <theflyingfool> and it saying its fine
[05:17] <tehArtist> ok..I'm gonna set the Swap file to 2Gib like NickGarvey has reccomended
[05:17] <doviende> whatever gets put into swap has to get read back out again.  if you've got more than a few hundred MB of stuff in swap it's gonna take forever to read it out anyway.
[05:17] <NickGarvey> theflyingfool, did you try to install again?
[05:17] <po0f> doviende: Do you really need to shave that 1G of swap down to 512MB on your 250G HD?  ;P
[05:17] <theflyingfool> i am trying right now
[05:17] <doviende> if you haev 1G of ram and you fill up 1G of swap then you just havea  RAM problem ;)
[05:18] <doviende> po0f: ok, true
[05:18] <doviende> but on my laptop i only haev 80G, so it doesn't make sense to make a 2G swap
[05:18] <tehArtist> OK, haha, everyone is confusing me...1G or 2G of swap?
[05:18] <NickGarvey> doviende, yeah that would be overkill
[05:18] <kitche> doviende: really swap is needed for some stuff now like core dumps and such more advance linux admining things
[05:18] <tehArtist> or 512MB?
[05:18] <po0f> doviende: I go with the "you never need it til you need it" philosophy and have a 2G swap partition.
[05:18] <doviende> tehArtist: k, 1G is fine if you have lots of HD space
[05:18] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, if you have a huge HD then I'd do 2g
[05:18] <tehArtist> I have plenty of HD space
[05:19] <tehArtist> its a 250G HDD
[05:19] <tehArtist> space isn't an issue
[05:19] <kitche> tehArtist: also you have plenty of ram so you should even get near swap
[05:19] <doviende> tehArtist: your machine would still run just fine with zero swap, so whatever you think is good will also be just fine
[05:20] <NickGarvey> (rand() * 2)
[05:20] <doviende> hehe
[05:20] <NickGarvey> thats how much swap ;)
[05:20] <tehArtist> ok, I have my 1G swap file now...
[05:20] <jewbilee> lets hope that his rand does not generate a .01
[05:21] <tehArtist> when I create my new Partion, I set it as a ext3 partition correct?
[05:21] <NickGarvey> yeah, a MB of swap would be a little useless
[05:21] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, yes
[05:21] <enigma32> Question: Can't install 6.10 on my laptop. Freezes at various points during the install. Text-only install seems to have a display driver issue. Any other way to install?
[05:21] <tehArtist> k
[05:21] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, if that is your root partition
[05:21] <NickGarvey> enigma32, display driver?
[05:21] <tehArtist> and thats a primairy partition?
[05:21] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, yes
[05:21] <theflyingfool> Anybody know what could cause things to go currupt during install
[05:22] <NickGarvey> theflyingfool, try installing again, it might be a one time thing
[05:22] <enigma32> NickGarvey: yes. If I try to do any of the options on the alternate version CD then I get a splotchy white screen
[05:22] <tehArtist> SOB!!!
[05:22] <tehArtist> haha
[05:22] <theflyingfool> i have tried about 10-15 times tonight with the same error in differnt places all night
[05:22] <tehArtist> I figured out my error and why i was having such a hard time
[05:22] <tehArtist> newbie me was typing /root
[05:22] <tehArtist> haha
[05:22] <NickGarvey> enigma32, while installing?
[05:22] <tehArtist> instead of just leaving the "/" and clicking forward
[05:22] <NickGarvey> tehArtist, yeah that would do it :)
[05:23] <po0f> tehArtist: We've all been there..  ok, maybe not "there".
[05:23] <Menisk> Do belkin WiFi cards work with ubuntu?
[05:23] <tehArtist> HAHA
[05:23] <carkeys> mensik: depends on chipset
[05:23] <tehArtist> I havent used a Linux Distro of any kind since XP sp2 was released
[05:23] <enigma32> NickGarvey: As soon as I leave the boot menu on the CD. The regular liveCD will boot and run fine but will die at different places inthe install (always before copying any data)
[05:23] <Menisk> Will the arthros chipset work?
[05:23] <NickGarvey> Menisk, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[05:23] <theflyingfool> did edgy have a live cd released, i think im going to try and install off a live cd for once instead of the alternative i use most of the time
[05:23] <tehArtist> And *nix has changed...A LOT since then...
[05:23] <carkeys> IIRC,it should
[05:23] <cafuego_> Menisk: yes
[05:23] <carkeys> what card do youhave?
[05:23] <Music_Shuffle> Edgy has a LiveCD.
[05:23] <po0f> tehArtist: Geez, what took you so long to come back?
[05:23] <NickGarvey> theflyingfool, yes
[05:23] <Menisk> Thanks nickgarvey
[05:24] <sladen> enigma32: you can use text-only *and* disable the framebuffer
[05:24] <Menisk> Thanks cafuego
[05:24] <NickGarvey> cafuego_, your answer was better heh
[05:24] <tehArtist> Well, I develop mostly in 3ds MAX, and that is DX native...
[05:24] <cafuego_> Menisk: Well, to the best of my knowledge all atheros chipsets work. Mine do anyway :-)
[05:24] <tehArtist> but now I'm switching to maya..and since thats openGL
[05:24] <NickGarvey> mine does too
[05:24] <jewbilee> Is it possible to use programs meant for KDE in Gnome?
[05:24] <Menisk> :P
[05:24] <tehArtist> I would get better performance in *nix
[05:24] <po0f> jewbilee: Yes.
[05:24] <NickGarvey> jewbilee, yes, install it just like you normally would
[05:24] <theflyingfool> has anyone tried the x64 version
[05:24] <bruenig> jewbilee, sudo apt-get install whatever you want
[05:25] <VMT2007> jewbilee: it won't look nicely but it'll run well
[05:25] <NickGarvey> theflyingfool, I did, it worked, but I suggest the 32 bit
[05:25] <cafuego_> theflyingfool: only yesterday, yes.
[05:25] <ianthepetrock> I have just installed webalizer from apt, how do i access it?
[05:25] <tehArtist> and Ubuntu just seemed like the best alternative for me to 're-educate' myself in the *nix environment
[05:25] <bruenig> it looks fine
[05:25] <jewbilee> Alright, just wondering, what media player do you all use for music?
[05:25] <VMT2007> Banshee
[05:25] <NickGarvey> jewbilee, mplayer
[05:25] <madman91> can I UMOUNT my /home partition and use gparted to make it bigger ... while being logged in?
[05:25] <bruenig> default rhythmbox woo
[05:25] <po0f> madman91: Use the GParted live CD instead.
[05:25] <enigma32> sladen: How do I disable the framebuffer? Is it a command line option when loading the kernel?
[05:25] <NickGarvey> madman91, you can't umount a partition you need to use, try a live cd
[05:25] <maheanuu_> theflying fool, I am running the 64 bit alternate version now
[05:25] <NickGarvey> madman91, gparted cd is good, like po0f said
[05:25] <bruenig> jewbilee, you should try listen if you are thinking of amarok, http://listengnome.free.fr/
[05:26] <madman91> NickGarvey: I will just use the ubuntu live cd..
[05:26] <VMT2007> banshee is awesome
[05:26] <madman91> thanks po0f and NickGarvey
[05:26] <jewbilee> yes, amarok was what i was hoping for
[05:26] <tehArtist> Its taken me 2 freaking days to get the HP m7160n Media Center to accept this Ubuntu install..but it looks as if its finally gonna make it =D
[05:26] <jewbilee> Also, I was able to make mp3s work, but I am unaware what I actually did....
[05:26] <Clinton__> Alright, how do I prevent shift and backspace from resetting X?
[05:26] <jewbilee> Is there anyway I can check?
[05:26] <po0f> Clinton__: Don't use beryl.  ;P
[05:26] <NickGarvey> Clinton__, just shift and backspace?
[05:26] <NickGarvey> ah
[05:27] <VMT2007> Clinton__: is Obama going to be you running mate after all?
[05:27] <Clinton__> po0f: I don't have beryl installed
[05:27] <Clinton__> NickGarvey: yes, just shift and backspace
[05:27] <po0f> Clinton__: Really?  That's weird; have you used it at any point?
[05:27] <jewbilee> Does anyone know how I can check what I did that made mp3s work?
[05:27] <theflyingfool> what is a debootstrap warning??
[05:27] <Clinton__> po0f: a friend of mine might have tried to install it, but I don't think it worked
[05:27] <VMT2007> jewbilee: did you install mpg123
[05:28] <NickGarvey> jewbilee, you probably installed the package
[05:28] <Clinton__> po0f: what packages can I look for to see if it is installed?
[05:28] <jewbilee> How can I check that?
[05:28] <elbeto> Problem here: nothing happen after login. Brown screen, can move the mouse but nothing else happens
[05:28] <noiesmo> Clinton__, Add this to your code after gnome-window-decorator & in your start up script  > xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace Terminate_Server"
[05:28] <po0f> Clinton__: beryl-core off the top of my head, there are like 10 other pakcages though.
[05:28] <Clinton__> dpkg -l | grep -i beryl results in .. nothing
[05:29] <elbeto> Problem here: nothing happen after login. Brown screen, can move the mouse but nothing else happens
[05:29] <Clinton__> noiesmo: what exactly does that do?
[05:29] <joink> hi, i cant install any program
[05:29] <NickGarvey> elbeto, did you try the failsafe?
[05:29] <enigma32> How do I disable the framebuffer on the text-mode install?
[05:29] <VMT2007> joink: what are you trying to install
[05:30] <joink> am trying to install iptalbes and another packs but i cant
[05:30] <po0f> joink: Error?
[05:30] <NickGarvey> enigma32, it is probably a boot switch, it would be under one of the menus at the start I would think-
[05:30] <VMT2007> uh
[05:30] <VMT2007> it comes with iptables
[05:30] <theflyingfool> i am so close to throwing my desktop out a window
[05:30] <VMT2007> did you download RPM packages or something
[05:30] <joink> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:30] <noiesmo> Clinton__, thats the shift backspace fix for beryl/compiz > xmodmap
[05:30] <po0f> theflyingfool: What a waste, donate it instead.
[05:30] <Clinton__> noiesmo: ah OK, just checking ( I like to know )
[05:30] <jewbilee> How can I check if i've installed mpg123?
[05:30] <elbeto> failsafe? There are two kinds of failsafe so which one should I use?
[05:31] <VMT2007> yes they need as many useless machines in the build pool as they can get
[05:31] <gili> hello. Happy new year
[05:31] <VMT2007> yes I said that
[05:31] <doviende> joink: what command did you type?
[05:31] <bruenig> jewbilee, do sudo apt-get install mpg123
[05:31] <NickGarvey> gili, you too :)
[05:31] <maheanuu_> What are you running flying fool?
[05:31] <gili> i have a question about SoundJuicer...
[05:31] <Clinton__> noiesmo: there's jsut one problem, I don't start beryl anywhere, I start gdm
[05:31] <joink> apt-get install XXXXX
[05:31] <NickGarvey> Clinton__, beryl would start automatically
[05:31] <gili> does anyone use that?
[05:31] <noiesmo> Clinton__, aah ok thought you had beryl my mistake :(
[05:31] <doviende> joink: try   sudo apt-get -f install
[05:31] <NickGarvey> gili, ask your question, maybe someone will know even if they don't use it
[05:31] <doviende> joink: that could fix some problems
[05:32] <gili> ok
[05:32] <NickGarvey> !justask
[05:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:32] <Clinton__> noiesmo: no problem, what might the next option be?
[05:32] <NickGarvey> :)
[05:32] <jewbilee> bruenig: It installed it, so what made mp3's work before hand?
[05:32] <joink> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/200/
[05:32] <tehArtist> man..they have made *nix/Ubuntu soo idiot proof...
[05:32] <bruenig> jewbilee, well it wasn't mpg123
[05:32] <po0f> jewbilee: gst-plugins-ugly?
[05:32] <VMT2007> tehArtist: not really
[05:32] <bruenig> jewbilee, yeah one of the gstreamers
[05:32] <gili> ok ok i get it keep your nickers on geesh.....i want to get mp3 and mpc support for sound juicer
[05:32] <jewbilee> poOf: how can I check?
[05:32] <tehArtist> I'm just waiting for the Mac smiley face/frown face to pop up if i do something I shouldn't lol
[05:32] <maheanuu_> theflyingfool, what hardware and distro are you using / trying to use?
[05:33] <jewbilee> I dont know how to check if they are installed
[05:33] <VMT2007> anyone who messes around with the `dd` command as root is going to be in for a surprise
[05:33] <joink> i used but he tryes to install and after broke
[05:33] <bruenig> !restricted | jewbilee
[05:33] <ubotu> jewbilee: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:33] <idleone> !mp3 | gili
[05:33] <ubotu> gili: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:33] <po0f> jewbilee: Just search for it in Synaptic.
[05:33] <bruenig> jewbilee, that page, the first one should tell you
[05:33] <noiesmo> Clinton__, in gnome maybe change options in but not 100% sure sorry System > Preferences > Keyboard > Layout Options
[05:33] <jewbilee> bruenig: thanks, but ive read that a lot
[05:33] <Clinton__> noiesmo: alright, I'll give that a shot
[05:33] <elbeto> Nick: when I try to use the failsafe it says Could not find GNOME installation. Running the "Failsafe xterm" instead
[05:34] <gili> idleone: i said mp3
[05:34] <jewbilee> i understand whats going on and why I need to do this, and ive attempted in the past, but I dont remember what i did that worked
[05:34] <bruenig> !info gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly.
[05:34] <ubotu> Package gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly. does not exist in any distro I know
[05:34] <VMT2007> why in the hell does sensible-browser default to firefox, ugh
[05:34] <bruenig> !info gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[05:34] <ubotu> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly: GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.4-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 197 kB, installed size 512 kB
[05:34] <po0f> jewbilee: If you can get MP3s to play, you have liblame installed.
[05:34] <VMT2007> galeon rather
[05:34] <theflyingfool> does anybody have any idea why libgcrypt11 would be currupt
[05:34] <jewbilee> poOf: is that a package?
[05:34] <idleone> gili: ubotu gave you a link that will help you to get mp3 working
[05:34] <gili> i have mp3 working
[05:35] <po0f> jewbilee: I don't know the exact package name, but it's close.
[05:35] <gili> that wasnt my question
[05:35] <jewbilee> po0f: alright, thanks
[05:35] <carutsu> hello, i need Arial font, how can i install it?
[05:35] <jewbilee> Now, can anyone explain the difference between Edgy and Dapper?
[05:35] <idleone> gili:  then I did not understand your question. sorry. and keep your knickers on :P
[05:35] <gili> i want to get soundjuicer to rip mp3's......do i need to add it manually
[05:36] <bruenig> !info msttcorefonts
[05:36] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[05:36] <gili> :-)
[05:36] <stephans> hi
[05:36] <idleone> gili:  use gnomebaker or K3B for that
[05:36] <po0f> jewbilee: 'liblame0' for Edgy.
[05:36] <stephans> how am i supposed to keep clam av up to date in ubuntu
[05:36] <stephans> ?
[05:36] <noiesmo> !freshclam
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freshclam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <jewbilee> po0f: what is edgy?
[05:37] <carutsu> oh, ok thanks
[05:37] <po0f> jewbilee: Ubuntu 6.10
[05:37] <VMT2007> jewbilee: ubuntu 6.10
[05:37] <gili> yeah....i guess thats an option...i just like the soundjuicer interface... was hoping to keep using that
[05:37] <bruenig> stephans, are you running a server or something
[05:37] <jewbilee> so what does that make dapper?
[05:37] <stephans> clam says that I need to update the program version from finction level 6 - 9
[05:37] <gili> i use ripperX
[05:37] <po0f> 6.06
[05:37] <stephans> server yes...
[05:37] <jewbilee> alright
[05:37] <po0f> jewbilee: Or 6.06.1 for LTS
[05:37] <jewbilee> so what is 6.2
[05:37] <stephans> bruenig: yes i have ubuntu server
[05:37] <VMT2007> unedgy
[05:37] <VMT2007> or not
[05:37] <po0f> jewbilee: It's Y.MM release versioning for ubuntu.
[05:38] <bruenig> stephans, yeah my hope was that you said no you weren't and then I could tell you that it probably wasn't important, but yeah you see how that worked out for me
[05:38] <stephans> and clam is complaining in the log files...
[05:38] <carutsu> after that where can i get the fonts from?
[05:38] <jewbilee> po0f: what do you mean?
[05:38] <stephans> bruenig: what happened to you?
[05:38] <po0f> jewbilee: There is no Ubuntu 6.2
[05:38] <slicky> i have problem in bash, cant make it sound like farting
[05:39] <jewbilee> po0f: woops
[05:39] <stephans> bruenig: that did not work out?
[05:39] <gili> has anyon here had luck gett thi TI built in card reader to work....
[05:39] <bruenig> stephans, nevermind, I have no idea how to fix your problem, I have never used any antivirus
[05:39] <po0f> jewbilee: The first number is the last digit of the year the release was released, the last two digits are the month.
[05:39] <jewbilee> po0f: and you are correct, i do have liblame0 installed
[05:39] <slicky> stickyicky:  ;D
[05:39] <gili> sorry.....has anyone had luck getting the TI card reader working...? I have followed the links on the guide page to no avail
[05:39] <stephans> bruenig: well it is a mail server and server windows users... so the need some extra protection
[05:39] <glyn> how do I change my system clock?
[05:40] <po0f> stephans: Let evolution take it's course.  ;)
[05:40] <bruenig> carutsu, well the actual fonts are located at /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[05:40] <jewbilee> po0f: i just launched mozilla and i says welcome to 6.06, i thought i had 6.10
[05:40] <ImBrian> has anyone here experienced an "API mismatch" when using NVidia's driver (as opposed to the ones in the apt repository)?  I get that error for X after each reboot.
[05:40] <stephans> po0f: he!
[05:40] <carutsu> bruenig so they are already there?
[05:40] <bruenig> carutsu, did you do sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[05:40] <bruenig> !version
[05:40] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[05:40] <bruenig> jewbilee, do what ubotu just said
[05:41] <carutsu> bruenig yep its installing it
[05:41] <jewbilee> thanks
[05:41] <MBohrer14> I'm trying to figure out which HD to install ubuntu on, the only problem is that the 2 hd's i have are the same name.... how can I tell which is which?
[05:41] <glyn> Anyone able to help me change my system clock please?  it is off
[05:41] <VMT2007> what's with the subcodenames
[05:41] <jewbilee> yea, im running dapper
[05:41] <VMT2007> like "eft"
[05:41] <VMT2007> "elk"
[05:41] <po0f> bruenig: Or, just remember what version you installed.  :D
[05:41] <jewbilee> is it necessary to upgrade to edgy?
[05:41] <gili> I have the TI PCIXX21 card reader....trying to get it to read
[05:41] <jewbilee> or suggested atleast
[05:41] <po0f> jewbilee: If it's not broke, don't fix it.
[05:41] <bruenig> jewbilee, I think it is actually suggested that you don't
[05:41] <elkbuntu> VMT2007, codenames can consist of more than two words, you know
[05:42] <jewbilee> hahah
[05:42] <jewbilee> ok
[05:42] <VMT2007> sure if you want to download a hundred packages from synaptic
[05:42] <jewbilee> thanks a lot guys!
[05:42] <elkbuntu> s/two/one/
[05:42] <gili> i have followed the guide but cant get the system to pick up my old SM card....has anyone succeeded in doing this...???
[05:42] <bruenig> although I have had a great time with edgy, lot of bad stories have come out
[05:42] <carutsu> bruenig does it install them by itself?
[05:43] <glyn> Anyone able to help me change my system clock please?  it is off would appreciate any help
[05:43] <bruenig> carutsu, yeah
[05:43] <theflyingfool> would having network enabled during install have any effect on how well the process goes or not
[05:43] <carutsu> bruenig thank you
[05:43] <carutsu> glyn how do you want to change the clock if the pc is off?
[05:44] <po0f> theflyingfool: Yes.  You get up-to-date packages with a network install.
[05:44] <VMT2007> i hope they call the next one ferret.
[05:44] <gili> idleone:I have the TI PCIXX21 card reader....trying to get it to read using the guid...but no luck...do u kow anyhthing about that
[05:44] <po0f> VMT2007: Feisty fawn.
[05:44] <glyn> I Just want to set it right
[05:44] <idleone> gili: no clue what that even is sorry :/
[05:44] <theflyingfool> po0f could using networking during install be causing my problems or not
[05:44] <glyn> but I don't know how
[05:44] <VMT2007> :\
[05:44] <gili> ok
[05:44] <gili> thanks
[05:45] <passwordissaman> hi, how do i know if i have my video card driver installed
[05:45] <po0f> theflyingfool: I had no problems browsing the forums during my install.
[05:45] <idleone> gili: try google might be a forum post or something on it
[05:45] <passwordissaman> when i move the page it is pretty edgy, and laggy...
[05:45] <theflyingfool> im not using a livecd,
[05:45] <meleeglow> can anyone tell me were to get the nvidia drivers for ubuntu
[05:45] <idleone> !nvidia
[05:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:45] <levander> passwordissaman: it's installed if you have a picture on your monitor
[05:45] <cybercod> meleeglow... you want the proprietary ones?
[05:45] <sladen> glyn: System->Adminstration->Time and Date
[05:45] <gili> alright////cheers
[05:45] <glyn> thanks
[05:45] <gili> happy new years to all......
[05:45] <jewbilee> I was able to install amarok using synaptic and its looks great!
[05:45] <levander> passwordissaman: actually, you need an X-windows picture on your monitor
[05:46] <LameBMX> lol
[05:46] <levander> jewbilee: you are using kubuntu, or you decided to use amarok on top of GNOME?
[05:46] <jewbilee> Gnome
[05:46] <bruenig> jewbilee, no listen?
[05:46] <meleeglow> didn't work gave me a page of code then I save it and then ubuntu couldn't open it
[05:46] <levander> jewbilee: you like amarok better than whatever the standard GNOME one is?
[05:47] <jewbilee> bruenig: i couldn't figure out what to do ^^;;
[05:47] <levander> jewbilee: how come?
[05:47] <e1> how do i have a transparent background for the panel bar
[05:47] <po0f> bruenig: Isn't Listen Mono ewwiness?
[05:47] <bruenig> well whatever works I guess
[05:47] <levander> e1: i think you need beryl for that
[05:47] <e1> i have beryl on tho
[05:47] <e1> how do i set it in beryl
[05:47] <levander> e1: no idea
[05:47] <bruenig> it might be mono I don't know
[05:47] <e1> k
[05:47] <jewbilee> levander: the first distro of linux i use was mandriva which used KDE and i just got used to amaroK, so I'm used to it
[05:47] <po0f> e1: I'm guessing it depends on your theme.
[05:47] <levander> jewbilee: ah, i see
[05:48] <jewbilee> yea
[05:48] <levander> jewbilee: i'm fighting in my head between KDE and GNOME, so I was just curious.
[05:48] <jewbilee> levanger: same with me
[05:48] <enigma32> Just for reference, to disable the framebuffer on the text-mode install, use the kernel option:    debian-installer/framebuffer=false
[05:48] <jewbilee> levander: i like gnome so far though, it's very clean
[05:48] <levander> jewbilee: yeah, exactly
[05:48] <passwordissaman> how do i know what kernal im running?
[05:48] <bruenig> kde has the best apps but is blindingly eye candied up
[05:48] <bruenig> passwordissaman, uname -r
[05:48] <po0f> passwordissaman: uname -r
[05:49] <po0f> *cries*
[05:49] <levander> jewbilee: GNOME seems cleaner.  But, KDE has a better API and more applications.  The API being a particularly bitter point because of the whole Mono thing in GNOME.
[05:49] <levander> jewbilee: That's my impression anyway.
[05:49] <jewbilee> levander: What do you mean by better API?
[05:49] <bruenig> I say xfce vs. kde that is the better battle
[05:49] <carutsu> lavander: i used GNOME but its too restrictive for me, i love KDE
[05:49] <levander> jewbilee: As a long time KDE user, you would personally say GNOME is cleaner?
[05:49] <carutsu> lavender, i just love the customizable KDE is
[05:49] <jewbilee> levander: hahaha if by long time you mean about a week, yes
[05:49] <po0f> levander: If by "cleaner" you mean "dumbed down", then yes GNOME is "cleaner" than KDE.  :)
[05:49] <enigma32> ...I'm still an enlightenment fan :-)
[05:50] <levander> bruenig: I'm about to try XFCE on a HTPC I'm building not there yet.
[05:50] <doviende> po0f: hahah
[05:50] <jewbilee> levander: i abandoned linux once, then came to ubuntu, then left again, and am now back
[05:50] <cybercod> meleeglow  this page has an excellent script for installing proprietary nvidia drivers
[05:50] <cybercod> http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[05:50] <carutsu> levander: GNOME is faster i think, but its also less powerfull at my point of view
[05:50] <doviende> i'm noticing that a lot of gnome applets just show things, but you can't get any details from them and you can't set much
[05:50] <levander> carutsu: I went to install a theme in KDE, and there were like five different places you had to put files and stuff.  carutsu: In GNOME, there's one.  That's what we mean by cleaner.
[05:50] <theflyingfool> has anyone ever had an install cd where when you first burn it and check for defects it works, and then like a month later it fails
[05:50] <levander> carutsu: You wouldn't agree that GNOME is cleaner?
[05:50] <jewbilee> levander: what do you mean KDEs API is better?
[05:51] <bruenig> jewbilee, for developers
[05:51] <po0f> theflyingfool: It might be bad media.  What brand do you use?
[05:51] <jewbilee> bruenig: like, programming specifically for KDE?
[05:51] <carutsu> levander: well it is actually better planned or as you said cleaner
[05:51] <bruenig> jewbilee, creating kde apps
[05:51] <levander> jewbilee: KDE is written on the Qt library.  Which bases a lot of its ideas on what is now Apple's Cocoa.  It's very object oriented.
[05:51] <theflyingfool> the disc that was on was a stables disc
[05:51] <carutsu> levander but you are very restricted, in that it felt like windows to me
[05:51] <jewbilee> What language is it written in?
[05:52] <po0f> jewbilee: Qt/KDE == C++
[05:52] <levander> jewbilee: GNOME's GTK API has tons of little parameters for every method call, they don't use default values enough.
[05:52] <jewbilee> Im in AP Computer Science at my high school, and looking to do computer science for a major at college so anything programming interests me
[05:52] <carutsu> levander: however didn't you used the installer for the themes? its really easy that way
[05:52] <levander> carutsu: Which one is restricted, GNOME or KDE?
[05:52] <jewbilee> I was accepted to RIT for computer science
[05:52] <carutsu> GNOME
[05:52] <po0f> jewbilee: use Qt4 to learn, Qt3 sucks.
[05:52] <carutsu> levander:GNOME
[05:52] <carkeys> jewbilee: what HS do you go too?
[05:53] <jewbilee> ill stick with Java for now ;)
[05:53] <levander> carutsu: What installer?  I just found some instructions that came with a couple of themes.
[05:53] <jewbilee> Cape Henry Collegiate School
[05:53] <po0f> jewbilee: ...
[05:53] <peanutb> does anyone know how to correctly configure a Matrox 550 Graphics card on edgy correctly?
[05:53] <jewbilee> po0f: ?
[05:53] <carkeys> hmm
[05:53] <passwordissaman> when you guys move your screens around really fast, is it smooth?
[05:53] <carkeys> yes
[05:53] <carutsu> levander, eh? let me see
[05:53] <po0f> jewbilee: Oh, nothing...
[05:53] <kitche> passwordissaman: yes if I don't use vesa
[05:53] <jewbilee> po0f: its what the AP Computer Science course uses, I have no preference since it's the only one i Know
[05:53] <levander> carutsu: I personally thought KDE felt more like Windows, with its Start menu and System Settings that seemed a lot like Windows' Control Panel to me.
[05:54] <po0f> jewbilee: Java's nice enough I guess.  For a really good time, look into Jython.
[05:54] <bruenig> yeah, if I am going to make a break and evangelize about linux, I want it to look different
[05:54] <levander> peanutb: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" - I think you need the mga driver.
[05:54] <carutsu> levander: yes, but unlike windows you can do whatever you want, want it OS like? done, GNOME like? done
[05:54] <maheanuu_> I also am beginning to see that Gnome is a much more restricted desktop than Kde,
[05:54] <levander> Did I miss any comments on the GNOME vs. KDE thing that I didn't comment on?  I'm interested in that stuff right now.
[05:54] <jewbilee> anyone wanna tell me how to make a shortcut to my "My Documents" folder from my windows partition onto my ubuntu desktop
[05:55] <peanutb> levender, tried that many times, no avail, dapper works great though
[05:55] <levander> maheanuu_: How is it restricted?
[05:55] <peanutb> levander, tried that many times, no avail, dapper works great though
[05:55] <po0f> jewbilee: Create a launcher with `nautilus /windows/mount/point` as the command.
[05:55] <bruenig> jewbilee, right click on the desktop, create launcher, then make the command "nautlus /path/to/wherever/your/my/documents/folder/is"
[05:55] <bruenig> 1-1
[05:55] <maheanuu_> I am not finding the codecs, wether it is just me and the newness, I am not sure, but so far I cannot do very much in Gnome
[05:56] <po0f> ;D
[05:56] <bruenig> nautilus*
[05:56] <po0f> maheanuu_: The DE has nothing to do with your inability to find codecs.
[05:56] <VMT2007> oh god
[05:56] <levander> peanutb: You could try learning to configure Xorg.conf by hand.  Peanutb, or how about just copying your Xorg.conf from dapper into edgy?  Make sure to keep a safe copy if you do that though, in case it gets clobbered on Edgy later.
[05:57] <bruenig> kde looks too much like a fisher price OS
[05:57] <levander> peanutb: no way to recreate it on edgy, so need a good backup
[05:57] <VMT2007> you know that force quit thing that says "Click on a window to force the application to quit. To cancel press <ESC>." thing?
[05:57] <carutsu> see ya guys
[05:57] <Ashton_Ke> Okay, 2 questions.
[05:57] <base_16> bruenig: there's nothing to stop you from changing the theme to get away from that
[05:57] <VMT2007> It's stuck open above ALL OF MY WINDOWS. Is there any way to get rid of it?
[05:57] <enigma32> OK... new question:  The partitioner keeps failing saying that it can't mount my windows partition. It won't let me finish the installation because of this. Any ideas?
[05:57] <ImBrian> anyone using the NVidia driver on Ubuntu?
[05:57] <bruenig> can I get rid of those damn dragons
[05:57] <peanutb> levander, ok ill try that, thanks
[05:57] <maheanuu_> Again, I am only a new user, even tho I have been passing out distros since warty was released, When I go home, I carry at least a hundred CD's home and pass them out, really ticks off the microsoft and apple dealerships when they see free os's being handed out
[05:57] <jewbilee> KDE had too many visual bells and whistles to me
[05:57] <levander> maheanuu_: there's a RestrictedFormats page on wiki.ubuntu.com that tells you how to install the codecs for GNOME
[05:57] <bruenig> I hate those dragons
[05:57] <Ashton_Ke> It appears, that my onboard sound worked with Edgy (straight from the disc), but the upgrades killed it. Any suggestion?
[05:57] <hope13> does Ubuntu have Ruby Installed by default?
[05:57] <hope13> !ruby
[05:57] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[05:57] <carutsu> hope13 np
[05:58] <carutsu> no
[05:58] <TheLance> well
[05:58] <po0f> VMT2007: What's the hung program in question?
[05:58] <bruenig> !info ruby1.9
[05:58] <ubotu> ruby1.9: Interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby 1.9. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.0+20060609-1 (edgy), package size 228 kB, installed size 316 kB
[05:58] <VMT2007> no, no, I cancelled the force quit operation but the thing is stuck.
[05:58] <TheLance> brian I am
[05:58] <TheLance> they work fine
[05:58] <carutsu> why are the icons in OOo diferent in linux than in Windows?
[05:58] <ImBrian> TheLance, For some reason, I have to reinstall the driver upon every boot.
[05:59] <ImBrian> giving an API Mismatch error
[05:59] <TheLance> i have been having problems gettting SLI to work though
[05:59] <VMT2007> carutsu: different version perhaps
[05:59] <VMT2007> or a different OOo theme
[05:59] <bruenig> carutsu, ask the open office people about that
[05:59] <TheLance> thats weird
[05:59] <ImBrian> I'm not using SLI
[05:59] <TheLance> do you have a .deb
[05:59] <po0f> ImBrian: You didn't try using beta NVIDIA drivers now, did you?
[05:59] <TheLance> well i'm just saying
[05:59] <TheLance> or did you make one?
[05:59] <ImBrian> po0f, no
[05:59] <carutsu> VMT2007 no, actually the same 2.0.4
[05:59] <jewbilee> bruenig: I keep getting an error with the launcher
[05:59] <TheLance> how did you install it?
[05:59] <ImBrian> sudo ./NVidia-whatever from their site
[05:59] <carutsu> bruening actually i though it was an ubuntu related topic like the iconbs in firefox...
[05:59] <po0f> ImBrian: ...
[05:59] <TheLance> well try the update manager
[06:00] <TheLance> and install the driver from there first
[06:00] <TheLance> then install the nvdia drivers
[06:00] <Ashton_Ke> Other question, anyone know of any good software to run RAID 1 (preferably so that it'd be hot-swappable, in case of disc failure)
[06:00] <TheLance> if you update it might revert back
[06:00] <ImBrian> I'd rather not use the driver in the repo
[06:00] <po0f> ImBrian: You just broke a whole bunch of symlinks.
[06:00] <bruenig> jewbilee, what are you putting for the command
[06:00] <maheanuu_> I will not be going home until around June, but have downloaded all the latest Ubuntu discs and am sending 10 copies of each with my wife when she goes home in feb. to pass on to a nephew who is a comp. sci grad from our university in Papeete
[06:00] <jewbilee> nautilus /hdc1/Documents and Settings/Ian/My Documents/
[06:00] <niru> hello all
[06:00] <TheLance> well just install the driver in the repo for now
[06:01] <TheLance> and hten install the nvidia
[06:01] <bruenig> jewbilee, yeah linux doesn't like spaces
[06:01] <jewbilee> bruenig: suggestion?
[06:01] <bruenig> jewbilee, practice in the terminal until you figure out the command
[06:01] <TheLance> cause i bet its an updating issue thats causing the installation at every reboot
[06:01] <po0f> jewbilee: Try `nautilus "/hdc1/Documents and Settings/Ian/My Documents"
[06:01] <ImBrian> TheLance, I think by running the NVidia driver installer, it breaks things for the driver in the repo though
[06:01] <Red-Sox[away] > I really need to get iTunes running in Ubuntu
[06:01] <bruenig> or you can put \ before all of the spaces
[06:01] <TheLance> yeah thats why you have to install it at every boot
[06:01] <Red-Sox[away] > Wine works not
[06:01] <ImBrian> I tihnk that I have remnants of the restricted driver that are trying to load
[06:01] <po0f> ImBrian: Do you remember what version of the driver you installed?
[06:02] <TheLance> because ubuntu is having some issues with it
[06:02] <VMT2007> anyway that damn force quit dialog is hung on my desktop
[06:02] <ImBrian> 1.0-9746
[06:02] <bruenig> Red-Sox[away] , why do you need ituns running
[06:02] <bruenig> itunes*
[06:02] <carutsu> Red-Sox[away]  have you tried wine?
[06:02] <po0f> ImBrian: That's beta, AFAIK.
[06:02] <TheLance> well does anyone have an answer to why my ubuntu box is taking longer to boot then normal
[06:02] <po0f> ImBrian: Anyways, do you want to stick with this driver or use the one from the repos?
[06:02] <TheLance> its stuck ath the boot screen for the longest time
[06:02] <ImBrian> nei, it's not beta
[06:02] <Red-Sox[away] > bruenig: Because it has the best music store I've seen
[06:02] <VMT2007> Red-Sox[away] : try an alternative
[06:02] <Red-Sox[away] > carutsu: Yeah, ti doesn't work
[06:02] <ImBrian> I'd def. prefer using the ones from NVidia
[06:02] <VMT2007> Banshee has an iTunes Store plugin
[06:02] <bruenig> oh you buy your music, gotcha
[06:03] <Red-Sox[away] > VMT2007: Does it support gift cards?
[06:03] <VMT2007> no clue
[06:03] <carutsu> Red-Sox[away]  why do you need iTunes? there are plenty other players actually
[06:03] <VMT2007> I don't buy my music through iTunes, rofl.
[06:03] <TheLance> i still cant get banshee to connect to my ipod though
[06:03] <slicky> how do i make an exact copy of a dvd in to a iso file?   without shrinking it?  something with dd:  in bash.. cant remeber :$
[06:03] <TheLance> i cna't put any songs on it
[06:03] <Red-Sox[away] > carutsu: I know but I really like the music store
[06:03] <VMT2007> I buy it through other channels... "Buy"
[06:03] <po0f> ImBrian: You'll have to apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx* linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` then.
[06:03] <TheLance> as a matter of fact i haven't been able to do hat with my ipod in linux ever
[06:03] <carkeys> real quick:how do i enable the root account?
[06:03] <VMT2007> Red-Sox[away] : iTunes doesn't even run that well in Wine
[06:03] <Red-Sox[away] > VMT2007: ZOMG IRAA IS KNOCKING AT YOUR DOOR
[06:03] <Red-Sox[away] > >.>
[06:03] <Red-Sox[away] > VMT2007: I know
[06:03] <VMT2007> They stopped publishing the Linux version
[06:03] <bruenig> slicky, maybe dd if=/dev/hd? of=~/whatever.iso
[06:03] <tyme-> Anyone know where the Dbus service is located?
[06:03] <Red-Sox[away] > VMT2007: It doesn't run in wine
[06:04] <VMT2007> You COULD find an old version of iTunes for Linux
[06:04] <jewbilee> Alright, using a combination of escaping the spaces using \ and adding /media/ before the /hdc1/ it worked
[06:04] <carutsu> Red-Sox[away]  er well im afraid i cant help you but you should not buy there all the music is protected and will be a pain if you try to play it on other players
[06:04] <VMT2007> but you'd probably have to install it with alien
[06:04] <slicky> bruenig:  yes thanks :D
[06:04] <Red-Sox[away] > carutsu: I'm strictly an iPod fan
[06:04] <VMT2007> yeah DRM crap
[06:04] <carkeys> how do i enable teh root account?
[06:04] <TheLance> stupid DRM
[06:04] <tyme-> login to root
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> !root | carkeys
[06:04] <VMT2007> carkeys: no need, use sudo
[06:04] <ubotu> carkeys: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:04] <TheLance> you log in
[06:04] <Red-Sox[away] > DRM is understandable
[06:04] <carutsu> Red-Sox[away]  well is very much like linux or firefox fan
[06:04] <h3xis> carkeys, run sudo makepasswd and create a password. then you can run su from then on
[06:04] <bruenig> Red-Sox[away] , you know there is something called bittorrent, it has a pretty good music collection last time I checked
[06:04] <tyme-> Anyone know where the Dbus service is located?
[06:05] <carkeys> TheLance: no, i mean for terminal use (not sudo, i need su)
[06:05] <VMT2007> Red-Sox[away] : I'm sorry but you may not be able to even run iTunes with Wine
[06:05] <carutsu> bruening or Ares or aMule or...
[06:05] <VMT2007> Apple does not have a Linux version anymore
[06:05] <bruenig> those are spare
[06:05] <Red-Sox[away] > bruenig: Dad's a lawyer...:P
[06:05] <bruenig> Red-Sox[away] , and...
[06:05] <TheLance> has anyone been having issues with their ubuntu box getting stuck ath te boot screen for a longer period of time then usual?
[06:05] <Red-Sox[away] > bruenig: and he'd get mad, I'd get in trouble?
[06:05] <Red-Sox[away] > kekeke
[06:05] <po0f> Red-Sox[away] : My mom's a doctor but I get hurt all the time.  ;)
[06:05] <TheLance> it takes way longer for my machine ot boot up now
[06:05] <bruenig> Red-Sox[away] , how would he know
[06:05] <VMT2007> Red-Sox[away] : hide it from him? :)
[06:05] <TheLance> i don't know how to fix it
[06:05] <TheLance> this is something that should happen in windows
[06:05] <TheLance> not linux
[06:06] <Red-Sox[away] > Guys
[06:06] <VMT2007> keep it in your user folder, make a different account for him
[06:06] <Red-Sox[away] > No
[06:06] <bruenig> put it in a . directory, he won't even see those
[06:06] <carutsu> Red-Sox[away]  well you are in a problem now
[06:06] <Red-Sox[away] > I wanna get iTunes running in linux, not use BitTorrent
[06:06] <VMT2007> the RIAA hasn't caught any of us yet
[06:06] <kitche> but anyways Itunes works in wine
[06:06] <VMT2007> http://appdb.winehq.org/
[06:06] <Red-Sox[away] > kitche: No it doesn't
[06:06] <VMT2007> search iTunes
[06:06] <ChesMan> Question: When i install a program, trough synaptic or wherever, i can run when i type the name throguh the command line, but how can i set that program up with an icon so i dont have to type it everytime?
[06:06] <Red-Sox[away] > I've tried
[06:06] <tyme-> TheLance:  defragment? have too many services starting at boot possibly?
[06:06] <VMT2007> Well man most of us are free-software fanatics who couldn't see ourselves installing iTunes.
[06:06] <bruenig> ChesMan, there should be a menu entry for all graphical programs
[06:06] <h3xis> ChesMan, on panel, desktop, or what?
[06:06] <TheLance> how do you defrag? and how do i stop services?
[06:07] <coolhat> is this the right place to get some ubuntu support?
[06:07] <tyme-> ChesMan:  create an entry on panel or desktop
[06:07] <TheLance> i don't know
[06:07] <ChesMan> thanks Guys :)
[06:07] <h3xis> TheLance, you dont defrag on ext3/reiserfs
[06:07] <TheLance> just lately its been way slower then usual
[06:07] <VMT2007> h3xis: or even ext2 for that matter
[06:07] <VMT2007> or ufs
[06:07] <ChesMan> and im useing rythembox for the first time now,a nd well, i love it better then Itunes, none of that panel with the istore on it you cannot get rid of
[06:07] <TheLance> it started yesterday
[06:07] <TheLance> i didn't even install or touch the box for like a week
[06:07] <h3xis> VMT2007, i know, but he is more than likely using either of those
[06:07] <hope13> !GTK2.8
[06:07] <TheLance> all of a sudden it takes forever to boot
[06:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about GTK2.8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <VMT2007> very very likely ext3 though
[06:07] <carutsu> Red-Sox[away]  well it should woek http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1347
[06:07] <klees> how do i uninstall gtk2 themes i installed?
[06:07] <hope13> !GTK
[06:07] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[06:07] <carutsu> *worn
[06:08] <carutsu> lol *work
[06:08] <tyme-> !ext3
[06:08] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[06:08] <VMT2007> You could just boot to Windows whenever you feel like shelling $1 for every song
[06:08] <po0f> klees: rm -rf ~/.themes/<theme name>
[06:08] <hope13> is GTK 2.8 installed by default in ubuntu?
[06:08] <maheanuu_> bruenig, does bittorrent have catagories like hawaiian music, polynesian music,  music from oceania??
[06:08] <kitche> Red-Sox[away] : odd how Itunes 6 runs
[06:09] <kitche> Red-Sox[away] : but 7 itunes doesn't
[06:09] <Sensae> Hi
[06:09] <tyme-> maheanuu: bittorrent has EVERYTHING
[06:09] <po0f> hope13: Dapper or Edgy?
[06:09] <jewbilee> Would someone mind helping me configure my wireless card?
[06:09] <hope13> Edgy
[06:09] <po0f> hope13: 2.10.somthing then.
[06:09] <tyme-> jewbilee:  configure it how?
[06:09] <VMT2007> jewbilee: brand?
[06:09] <NickGarvey> jewbilee, have you read the docs?
[06:09] <klees> po0f: thanks that worked
[06:09] <hope13> >,>
[06:09] <hope13> 2.8 is newer?
[06:09] <hope13> lol
[06:09] <jewbilee> Nick: probably not
[06:10] <coolhat> Can anyone tell me what edgy raid support is like? Can i for example, boot off the cd, create some MD devices with mdadm and then install onto them??
[06:10] <po0f> hope13: No it's not.
[06:10] <VMT2007> jewbilee: broadcom?\
[06:10] <hope13> so 2.10 is newer?
[06:10] <doviende> VMT2007: don't swear
[06:10] <doviende> hehe
[06:10] <hope13> sweet
[06:10] <po0f> hope13: Yes.
[06:10] <hope13> thx again pro0f
[06:10] <jewbilee> VMT: yea, Dell TruMobile 1400? i think it is
[06:10] <hope13> po0f
[06:10] <VMT2007> doviende: I didn't swear
[06:10] <tyme-> ipw2200?
[06:10] <tyme-> bg
[06:10] <tyme-> is fully supported
[06:10] <doviende> VMT2007: you said Br*****m ;)
[06:10] <VMT2007> oh lol
[06:10] <jarrod10> hi. can ubuntu merge HFS+ volumes?
[06:11] <kitche> broadcom is sorta stable might drop the connection during some points
[06:11] <jewbilee> thats fine
[06:11] <VMT2007> rofl, broadcom isn't worth crap
[06:11] <jewbilee> but I try to activate the connection
[06:11] <jewbilee> and its doesnt
[06:11] <jarrod10> anyone know if HFS+ is writable by ubuntu?
[06:11] <doviende> lots of people get broadcom cards working, but it takes extra effort and fussing around
[06:12] <jewbilee> and as far as broadcom is concerned, ive run it on windows with no problem, is it different on linux?
[06:12] <doviende> jarrod10: if it's writeable by any linux, it's writeable by ubuntu
[06:12] <kitche> doviende: umm I just grab the broadcom firmware and it works
[06:12] <VMT2007> rofl, you need to use ndiswrapper
[06:12] <VMT2007> kitche: not in my case, I have a CRAP broadcom card
[06:12] <jewbilee> god i hate that
[06:12] <jarrod10> !hfs+
[06:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:12] <jewbilee> i think i triad that once..
[06:12] <robtp> !fuse
[06:12] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:12] <kitche> VMT2007: actually you don't but depending on the version of the chip you have you might
[06:12] <doviende> kitche: ya, some people are lucky.  depends on the model
[06:12] <kitche> VMT2007: I know the newer broadcom's don't work as easy
[06:12] <VMT2007> cheap POS laptops like mine come with broadcom adapters
[06:13] <coolhat> so no one knows anything about raid on ubuntu?
[06:13] <kitche> doviende: yeah I have a motorola wirless card
[06:13] <jewbilee> my dell had a broadcom wireless card built in
[06:13] <Asc> Will GRUB let me boot from an CD in a USB drive?
[06:13] <coolhat> or ubuntu on raid rather
[06:13] <kitche> coolhat: I don't use raid that much or I would help
[06:13] <seanj> !samba
[06:13] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:13] <doviende> Asc: depends on if your bios supports it i think
[06:13] <kitche> Asc should
[06:13] <LameBMX> asc the real question is will your motherboard support booting from usb cd
[06:13] <peanutb> VMT2007, i would suggest getting a pcmcia wifi card based on the atheros chipset.
[06:13] <VMT2007> peanutb: extra battery drain
[06:13] <Asc> doviende, it doesn't
[06:14] <kitche> doviende: huh when you use grub you don't have to worry about the bios
[06:14] <VMT2007> then I also have to worry about my VIA display adapter
[06:14] <doviende> kitche: if your bios can't boot USB things, then it doesn't matter what you do to grub
[06:14] <Asc> The modular bay hdd is broken, and I need to reinstall :p
[06:14] <coolhat> guess not then, thx anyway
[06:14] <Asc> or modular bay cd
[06:14] <VMT2007> I just put windows back on the thing, linux on it isn't worth the effort
[06:14] <kitche> doviende: my computer doesn't support usb booting but with grub it does :P
[06:14] <Asc> my cd drive is hdd for some reason....
[06:15] <NickGarvey> Asc, that is fine
[06:15] <NickGarvey> Asc, mine is hdc
[06:15] <doviende> kitche: maybe if the kernel is on the HD and you use the USB as the root
[06:15] <VMT2007> FreeBSD 6.2 will have improved ndis conversion so I'm waiting for that
[06:15] <doviende> kitche: grub doesn't have usb drivers ;)
[06:15] <LameBMX> asc and kitche when in grub you are no booting so to speak .. well its the very last step of the boot process ... asc ...
[06:15] <coolhat> BTW on another note: when i boot from the edgy cd after going 'install or boot//' it goes to some screen with a grey logo and a messed up loading screen, then sits around for a while, then starts spiting out erros about /hda
[06:15] <LameBMX> asc you need to clarify what you are asking
[06:15] <doviende> so it either uses BIOS support or it gets the linux kernel from another device first and then just mounts a filesystem from the usb after it has a kernel
[06:15] <coolhat> whats with that, all my disks report no erros according to sea gate disk tools
[06:16] <jewbilee> oh yea, does KDE take a lot out a of a laptop battery? or was that just Mandriva in general
[06:16] <kitche> LameBMX: I know :P that's why I use grub to use my slax usb drive
[06:16] <jewbilee> or linux in general
[06:16] <Asc> LameBMX: I want to boot from a USB cd drive.  My BIOS does not support booting from a usb drive.
[06:16] <VMT2007> jewbilee: running CLI will give you very minimal battery drain :P
[06:16] <NickGarvey> jewbilee, depends on what you do...
[06:16] <jarrod10> hi guys, let me describe my problem, i have a macbook and the main partition is an hfs+ volume upon which osx is installed. i want to merge freespace and my previous linux partitions back to the hfs+ volume. how could i manage this with an edgy livecd?
[06:16] <LameBMX> booting from a cd drive meaning the bootstrap program is on the cd?
[06:16] <jewbilee> VMT: what is CLI?
[06:16] <seanj> is there some way to make my Ubuntu machine accesible to Windows hosts via Swat?
[06:16] <coolhat> command line interface
[06:17] <VMT2007> jewbilee: regular command line interface
[06:17] <somerville32> !cli | jewbilee
[06:17] <peanutb> jewbilee, i find it gives me better battery life.
[06:17] <ubotu> jewbilee: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:17] <coolhat> is cli
[06:17] <VMT2007> no not terminal
[06:17] <NickGarvey> jarrod10, delete the free linux partition and and resize the hfs+ to take up the extra space
[06:17] <LameBMX> asc okay .. if bios dont support it and u want to use grub on a cd then it will not boot
[06:17] <jewbilee> lol
[06:17] <NickGarvey> jarrod10, although I don't know why you would ever want to do that
[06:17] <jewbilee> i got it
[06:17] <jarrod10> this can be done with the livecd NickGarvey?
[06:17] <coolhat> and lameBMX, where u talking to me?
[06:17] <VMT2007> ctrl+alt+f1 -- that's your CLI -- don't do that unless you know how to go back to the GUI
[06:17] <LameBMX> no asc
[06:17] <somerville32> BMT2007: A terminal is a CLI as well
[06:17] <LameBMX> coolhat, ^
[06:17] <seanj> so far when I log into Swat with my username and pass I can only view options, not edit them
[06:17] <jewbilee> VMT: i dont so i wont
[06:17] <Asc> lamebmx: GRUB is on /dev/hda1; I want to use it to boot from the CD.
[06:17] <NickGarvey> jarrod10, yeah, gparted is on it I think
[06:17] <somerville32> *VMT2007
[06:17] <somerville32> VMT2007: Thats a tty
[06:18] <VMT2007> somerville32: I was referring to the TTY though
[06:18] <LameBMX> nope
[06:18] <coolhat> ok sry
[06:18] <Ashton_K1> Curses, Ubuntu froze...
[06:18] <Asc> Hmm.
[06:18] <LameBMX> asc i dont think that will work either .. usb devices get taken care of by the kernal .. there right after you hit enter in grub
[06:18] <seanj> this reminds me of trying to configure CUPS with the web interface; Broken a la Ubuntu :(
[06:18] <Asc> Will netboot let me do a server install?  Because doing that over 56K is going to suck.
[06:18] <Ashton_K> My router is going down the can too.
[06:18] <LameBMX> asc though i could be wrong ...
[06:18] <kalifonria909> hello everyone
[06:18] <seanj> maybe i should have used an easier distro
[06:19] <VMT2007> seanj: like?
[06:19] <LameBMX> and you could play some tricks with devices MAYBE
[06:19] <seanj> like MDK or something
[06:19] <LameBMX> seanj, i dont think you get much easier lol
[06:19] <peanutb> seanj, it seems to be a debian thing to strip all web interfaces of their usefullness.
[06:19] <seanj> it seems that way, peanutb
[06:19] <VMT2007> sure if you like the horridness of RPM packaging
[06:19] <kalifonria909> can anyone help me with a duel booting issue
[06:19] <Ashton_K> Or worse, rpath.
[06:19] <Ashton_K> :P
[06:19] <Asc> I guess I'll try and fiddle with it a bit.
[06:19] <seanj> All I want is to let Windows hosts access stuff via Samba
[06:19] <Ashton_K> Oh, networking.
[06:19] <seanj> I don't need anything else that might lead to RPM-hell
[06:20] <coolhat> so does edgy even have mdadm?
[06:20] <Ashton_K> There is never an "easy" when talking about mixing Linux and Windows on a network.
[06:20] <VMT2007> system > administration > shared folders
[06:20] <kalifonria909> does anyone duel boot over a raid array
[06:20] <seanj> it was easy with Mandriva...
[06:20] <seanj> so I guess I'll stop wasting our time and install it
[06:20] <seanj> cheers
[06:20] <Ashton_K> Usually the issues are on the Windows side, but whatever.
[06:20] <VMT2007> idiot
[06:20] <kitche> Asc: there is many how-tos on the net to make computers boot to usb that can't in the bios
[06:21] <Ashton_K> Since Windows hates Samba, but whatever.
[06:21] <LameBMX> Ashton_K, so far i havent had much issues ... though i would advise putty available on the windows boxes till you get everything workin good
[06:21] <jewbilee> alright guys, im out for tonight, Ill be back if I have anymore problems..
[06:21] <kitche> Asc: I know slax have a cd that does it if you install slax to usb and your computer can't boot to usb
[06:21] <VMT2007> he sacrifices security, not our problem
[06:21] <Asc> kitche: Okay, I'll look into those
[06:21] <Ashton_K> Well, networking isn't my bag.
[06:21] <Ashton_K> So, *shrug*
[06:21] <LameBMX> but im limited to gameservers and sharing files
[06:21] <maheanuu_> seanj, nothing good comes easy, we had an old saying in the nav, the amount of knowledge gained is equal to the months of 24 hour repairs  times the cube of the numbers of equipment destroyed
[06:21] <Ashton_K> Although my router is dying.
[06:21] <Asc> kitche: Well, i can't use a CD to boot.
[06:21] <VMT2007> Maheanuu: he left to install mandriva
[06:21] <coolhat> sooooo anyone know if edgy has mdadm?
[06:21] <Ashton_K> maheanuu, seanj left.
[06:21] <Ashton_K> :P
[06:21] <Ashton_K> !mdadm
[06:21] <LameBMX> Maheanuu, do os's count as equipment
[06:21] <ubotu> mdadm: tool to administer Linux MD device arrays (software RAID). In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.1-6ubuntu5.2 (edgy), package size 149 kB, installed size 456 kB
[06:22] <coolhat> u will need to be root
[06:22] <coolhat> to run mdadm
[06:22] <Ashton_K> While I'm at it.
[06:22] <Ashton_K> !RAID
[06:22] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:22] <kitche> Asc: true but slax might have something that might work for you
[06:22] <Ashton_K> That was easy.
[06:22] <maheanuu_> only if they can destroy the physical devices I guess,
[06:22] <Sensae> pastebin.com/849385 Can someone tell me what might be wrong with my crontab? It complains about a bad minute, and when it was working before it wasn't doing what it should.
[06:22] <coolhat> so if anyone here is on edgy atm, can u just type sudu mdadm and see if the command exists??
[06:23] <Ashton_K> Anyone have an ADI AD1888 soundcard on their motherboard? It worked with Edgy, until I updated.....
[06:23] <Sensae> Hm, actually now it's installing. But instead of logging my user out and locking his account it restarts the system.
[06:23] <LameBMX> kinda tough to destroy a physical device in a computer ....
[06:23] <doviende> LameBMX: get a hammer?
[06:23] <Ashton_K> coolhat, "apt-get install madadm"
[06:23] <LameBMX> all ive ever managed to do is make a 2.4a have a lot of hiccups
[06:23] <Ashton_K> Try that.
[06:23] <po0f> LameBMX: Thermite; also, sledgehammer.
[06:24] <maheanuu_> Being a retired chief et and a old retired Sperry Univac Ceta (tech rep) I defanitly spent my 24/48/72 hr daze wurkin on electronics and puter systems back in the main frame daze
[06:24] <doviende> coolhat: sudo aptitude install mdadm
[06:24] <LameBMX> no way am i gonna sledge hammer my computer
[06:24] <peanutb> seanj, this might be of interest http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#Samba_Server
[06:24] <Ashton_K> Why, oh why, doesn't HTTP like me today?
[06:24] <Ashton_K> peanutb, he left
[06:24] <Ashton_K> :P
[06:24] <coolhat> i cant install mdadm
[06:24] <coolhat> if i havent installed ubuntu yet
[06:24] <Ashton_K> sudo apt-get install madadm
[06:24] <coolhat> i need to use mdadm BEFORE i install
[06:24] <Ashton_K> Hold on.
[06:24] <Sensae> Anyone know much about crontabs? pastebin.com/849385
[06:24] <Ashton_K> Ohhh.
[06:24] <Ashton_K> Might be able to install it on the live CD.
[06:24] <LameBMX> i about wet myself the day i got my 9800xt ... and put it in ... and the waterblock peed all over it :/
[06:24] <coolhat> to set up the raid devices to install on to
[06:24] <tyme-> !halp .... -> checking for DBUS... no ; anyone have any idea why it's not finding DBUS? I have all the packages installed.. libdbus, dbus etcetc
[06:25] <LameBMX> but i was patient and let it dry for a couple days and it was fine
[06:25] <Ashton_K> Argh!
[06:25] <LameBMX> coolhat, what are you trying to do
[06:25] <peanutb> Sensae, what about them?
[06:25] <LameBMX> fakeraid install?
[06:25] <kitche> LameBMX: yeah that's how keyboards are cleaned you have to let them dry or else boom no more keyboard
[06:25] <coolhat> i am trying to use mdadm to build some raid devices to install on to
[06:25] <jarrod10> hey
[06:25] <Sensae> peanutb: Can you take a look at this crontab? pastebin.com/849385 It's restarting the machine.
[06:25] <jarrod10> im on the ubuntu live cd but it wont resize the hfs+ partition
[06:26] <LameBMX> coolhat, fakeraid or nix raid
[06:26] <tyme-> !halp tyme
[06:26] <jarrod10> can someone help me figure out why?
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about halp tyme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <coolhat> i did it ok with fc6, but for some reason my FS performance is super bad, and i think it may be an FC issue
[06:26] <coolhat> so i want to try ubuntu
[06:26] <po0f> jarrod10: Have you tried th GParted live CD?
[06:26] <coolhat> nix raid
[06:26] <coolhat> as in mdadm
[06:26] <coolhat> not mobo fake-raid
[06:26] <LameBMX> ahhh nvm then ..
[06:26] <jarrod10> its the same thing isnt it po0f?
[06:26] <LameBMX> yea well they are both kinda software .. i just got a fakeraid install up and working lol
[06:27] <LameBMX> and neither wiki guide helped individually lol
[06:27] <coolhat> well i dont have any fakeraid anyway
[06:27] <coolhat> gigabyte ds3 here
[06:27] <coolhat> and i would much rather use mdadm
[06:27] <coolhat> it's more pwoerfull
[06:27] <LameBMX> abit ic7-max3
[06:27] <po0f> jarrod10: The GParted one is more up-to-date, and is probably a better choice when having other OSs to consider.
[06:27] <coolhat> u cant even do raid5 with most fakeraid controllers
[06:27] <LameBMX> dual boot and hance the fake raid
[06:28] <kalifonria909> i have a raid array im trying to duel boot off of
[06:28] <LameBMX> ah .. raid0 baby .. and a couple 250's to store extra junk on
[06:28] <coolhat> well i dont use windows on any of these disks
[06:28] <LameBMX> yea thats what sticks me
[06:28] <coolhat> raid 0 is terrible
[06:28] <Sensae> Can anyone give me a hand with this crontab? http://www.pastebin.com/849385
[06:28] <kalifonria909> ubuntu see's the two disks but not as a raid array how do i fix that
[06:28] <tyme-> !halp .... -> checking for DBUS... no ; anyone have any idea why it's not finding DBUS? I have all the packages installed.. libdbus, dbus etcetc
[06:28] <coolhat> is one disks fails you loose everything
[06:28] <Ashton_K> !RAID
[06:28] <coolhat> *if
[06:28] <jarrod10> ah, i looked it up, parted can only shrink hfs+
[06:28] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:28] <jarrod10> i need an alternative
[06:28] <kalifonria909> !raid
[06:28] <po0f> tyme-: What are you trying to do?  Compile something?
[06:28] <LameBMX> raid0 is a 120 and 160 ... and i split them one for nix one for windows .. but i cant bear windows in non raid
[06:29] <tyme-> po0f, yes.
[06:29] <po0f> tyme-: Try libdbus-dev.
[06:29] <Ashton_K> No wonder, my dad left Azureus seeding, my ACK signals couldn't get out.
[06:29] <LameBMX> and nix was a lot slower on its own drive too
[06:29] <phiwum> Howdy.  Is there any special magic to getting crontabs to work on ubuntu?
[06:29] <kalifonria909> has anyone played with an a7n8x board and duel booting
[06:29] <tyme-> po0f:  have it
[06:29] <phiwum> I just created a crontab, but cron seems to be ignoring it.
[06:29] <LameBMX> kalifonria909, maker ...
[06:29] <kalifonria909> ??
[06:29] <Sensae> I've got a crontab working, but it isn't doing what I want.
[06:30] <seanj> It turns out all I had to do was break the rules and create a root password
[06:30] <maheanuu_> see you all in the morning, lots of runnin to complete
[06:30] <phiwum> Sensae: In what sense?
[06:30] <LameBMX> a7n8 .. that amd 64bit mobo right ... nvidia nforce 8 chipset correct
[06:30] <coolhat> that raid config is NOT for using mdadm
[06:30] <coolhat> thats for fakeraid
[06:30] <tyme-> po0f:  i have everything that's libdbus*
[06:30] <coolhat> which i am NOT doing
[06:30] <LameBMX> maybe not 64bit
[06:30] <kalifonria909> a7n8 is 32 bit with nforce 4
[06:30] <kalifonria909> amd board
[06:30] <LameBMX> yea fakeraid was a bitch
[06:30] <phiwum> I could use cron.hourly, but I want things to run when I want them to run.
[06:30] <Sensae> phiwum: You can see it here http://www.pastebin.com/849385 I did a sudo crontab -e to create it. The crontab executes, but it restarts the computer instead of locking the perosn out
[06:30] <LameBMX> yea .. who makes the motherboard
[06:31] <kalifonria909> asus
[06:31] <Ashton_K> Wow, that raid article is old....
[06:31] <DeCaelo> anyone seen Burgundavia around recently?
[06:31] <po0f> tyme-: Just to make sure: sudo aptitude install libdbus0-dev
[06:31] <LameBMX> and what are you attempting to do kalifonria909 softraid .. coolhat could prolly help you .. fakeraid i can prolly help you
[06:31] <kalifonria909> to boot to the raid array i have to tell the bios to boot to scsi
[06:31] <phiwum> Sensae: Thanks, I'll have a look.  One difference: I want a cron as a user, not as root.
[06:31] <po0f> tyme-: Note, the above is for Edgy.
[06:31] <LameBMX> so you gots a scsi controller ... thats not me
[06:31] <LameBMX> i can only help with what ive learned so far
[06:32] <peanutb> Sensae, is that user currently logged in?
[06:32] <Ashton_K> Anyone here have an ASUS board with an ADI AD1888 sound card? If so, does yours work?
[06:32] <LameBMX> what kinda scsi controller
[06:32] <kalifonria909> its a raid chipset
[06:32] <Sensae> peanutb: Yes, the point is to log him out at midnight and lock his account, and then reactivate it in the morning
[06:32] <phiwum> Sensae: Well, not sure why cron is killing your computer, but the syntax is just as I expected it.  No differences there.
[06:32] <kalifonria909> but in bios it has to be set to scsi
[06:32] <LameBMX> so fakeraid then
[06:32] <Sensae> peanutb: Erm at 1 am
[06:32] <LameBMX> or no
[06:32] <tyme-> po0f:  i have everything installed correctly
[06:32] <kalifonria909> well windows is on the raid array
[06:33] <idleone> !aoss
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aoss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <kalifonria909> and ubuntu is on a seperate hdd
[06:33] <po0f> tyme-: Can you pastebin the ./configure output?
[06:33] <Sensae> :/
[06:33] <phiwum> idleone: aoss is an alsa utility for older apps.
[06:33] <LameBMX> k .. did you install a board into motherboard and attach scsi harddrives to it
[06:33] <Sensae> As a note, this crontab worked absolutely fine on Ubuntu. I moved to Kubuntu 6.06 and it no longer works
[06:33] <kalifonria909> they are serial ata hard drives in a raid controller chip
[06:33] <tyme-> po0f:  it's GAIM
[06:33] <LameBMX> ahhh
[06:34] <tyme-> po0f:  lots to paste, but it checks for DBUS and cant find it.
[06:34] <simon_> sysinfo
[06:34] <po0f> tyme-: I don't use GAIM, you're going ot have to help me help you.
[06:34] <simon_> arg
[06:34] <LameBMX> kalifonria909, check pm
[06:34] <po0f> tyme-: Just the part where it fails, and ~20 lines above it.
[06:34] <schmity> heya
[06:34] <schmity> im a mac user but wish to buy a cheap peecee and install ubuntu on it
[06:34] <LameBMX> kalifonria909, reg so you can get pm's
[06:34] <LameBMX> if need be
[06:35] <schmity> whats the cheapest laptop i can find for under about 600$ thats good?
[06:35] <schmity> refurbished is fine
[06:35] <Rothbuntu> Computer: simon-laptop | Distro: Ubuntu 6.10 "edgy" | Processor: 2x @ 1.00Ghz | Model: Intel CPU T2300 @ 1.66GHz | Memory: 1009MB Free: 874MB []  | Diskspace: 89.50GB Free: 67.20GB | Video: ATI Radeon Mobility X1400 @ 1280x800 (24 bpp) | Net: Down: 0.62MB Up: 0.17MB | Battery: 94%
[06:35] <Rothbuntu> yeee
[06:35] <peanutb> Sensae, you porbably have to logout that user somehow.
[06:35] <tyme-> po0f:  pm.
[06:35] <h3xis> schmity, check the usual pc manufacturing sites
[06:35] <kalifonria909> im register bmx
[06:35] <peanutb> !good
[06:35] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[06:35] <peanutb> sorry define good
[06:35] <Sensae> peanutb: How would that affect it? Why wouldn't a killall -u polaris be sufficient?
[06:36] <kalifonria909> how do you pm again
[06:36] <kalifonria909> i forgot a lot of my mirc commands
[06:36] <Sensae> kalifonria909: /query or /msg
[06:36] <kalifonria909> ty sensae
[06:37] <peanutb> Sensae: i dont really know, but i think this is the problem.
[06:37] <coolhat> hmm i give up, gonna try gentoo
[06:37] <peanutb> Sensae, have you tried running the commands when polaris is logged in from the terminal?
[06:37] <Sensae> peanutb: Lemme do some testing
[06:37] <Youbuntu> can anyone help me on configuring nvidia's gcard driver? i have gotten a strange problem: have to reinstall the driver(downloaded from nv's website) at anytime after the system is rebooted, or i couldn't enter X.
[06:38] <Sensae> peanutb: How so?
[06:38] <kyncani> !nvidia | Youbuntu
[06:38] <ubotu> Youbuntu: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:38] <peanutb> Sensae, like sudo killall -u polaris
[06:38] <samuel> sup all
[06:39] <Sensae> peanutb: Opening a console and doing that? Lemme log out my main user from VNC and test that
[06:39] <fildo> !fonts
[06:39] <phiwum> Sensae: So you didn't have to do anything special to create that crontab?  Just crontab -e, right?
[06:39] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[06:39] <Sensae> phiwum: Yes
[06:39] <samuel> where can i get an smp kernel for 6.10 x386? or why is my computer not showing both CPUs, just one?
[06:39] <phiwum> Sensae: Because I just can't seem to get cron to notice my crontabs!
[06:39] <Youbuntu> thx, ubotu
[06:39] <h3xis> samiam, it should be showing both :/
[06:39] <h3xis> er samuel
[06:40] <kyncani> !botsnack
[06:40] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:40] <samuel> hmmm....
[06:40] <Sensae> phiwum: I've never tried to create a user one, only root
[06:40] <h3xis> samuel, what kind of cpu
[06:40] <samuel> h3xis, any tests I can do to check?
[06:40] <h3xis> samuel, not that i know of
[06:40] <samuel> AMD opteron
[06:40] <h3xis> hm
[06:40] <samuel> 2*
[06:40] <samuel> 1 core each
[06:40] <uval> hello
[06:40] <h3xis> i think an smp patch may be out
[06:40] <phiwum> Sensae: I tried to create a root one, too.  No difference.
[06:40] <h3xis> you can check
[06:40] <phiwum> Sensae: Cron just doesn't care about me.
[06:41] <phiwum> Sensae: Not even when I'm pretending to be root.
[06:41] <h3xis> samuel, if not just build a custom kernel :P
[06:41] <phiwum> Sensae: (sniff)
[06:41] <Blodhevn> How do I know what 'file' a USB device is? Such as /dev/whatever.. ?
[06:41] <uval> im the lord of darknes
[06:41] <Raythiest> hello
[06:41] <doviende> samuel: if you type "uname -a" does it say "SMP" in the middle?
[06:41] <kyncani> Blodhevn: hal-device-manager can tell you i think
[06:41] <NickGarvey> Blodhevn, dmesg will do it I think
[06:42] <uval> ubuntu i don"t like
[06:42] <Blodhevn> I know the other sort of address in the format 0x46d:0x8ca
[06:42] <Raythiest> can someone point me to the link for the fglrx installation for 6.10?
[06:42] <samuel> doviende, nop
[06:42] <doviende> samuel: ok, that's the problem then
[06:42] <kitche> !ati|Raythiest
[06:42] <ubotu> Raythiest: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:42] <kyncani> !botsnack
[06:42] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:42] <Raythiest> thanks a bunch kitche
[06:42] <doviende> samuel: you probably want to install linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic
[06:42] <uval> samuel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, fuck you
[06:43] <NickGarvey> mm no ops..
[06:43] <samuel> doviende, im running that kernel now
[06:43] <samuel> uval, ???
[06:43] <doviende> samuel: he's a troll, ignore him
[06:43] <samuel> oh
[06:43] <Sensae> phiwum: Not sure what to say, I'm here for crontab help too
[06:43] <phiwum> Sensae: Weird!  I killed and restarted the cron daemon and the little bugger finally noticed my jobs.
[06:43] <pinchmesh> what's the best way to get the areca driver in the install program?? for kubantu??
[06:43] <kalifonria909> is there a way to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 without having to burn the image. my burner is fubar
[06:44] <Sensae> lol
[06:44] <doviende> samuel: "uname -r" says 2.6.17-10-generic ?
[06:44] <SurfnKid> will linux or ubuntu ever have proprietary software
[06:44] <pinchmesh> the 2.6.19 kernel is supposed to have it
[06:44] <doviende> SurfnKid: it does already
[06:44] <SurfnKid> sort of what microsoft has been doing
[06:44] <samuel> doviende, is it possible a cpu has failed? 2.6.17-10-386
[06:44] <SurfnKid> doviende, no but
[06:44] <doviende> SurfnKid: like the nonfree flashplugin
[06:44] <tonyyarusso> SurfnKid: It does already.  Wireless card firmware, for instance.
[06:44] <samuel> oh
[06:44] <idleone> SurfnKid: I sure hope not like Microsoft has been doing
[06:44] <SurfnKid> CPRM, DRM type
[06:44] <doviende> samuel: aha, you have a different kernel
[06:45] <SurfnKid> where they control every move
[06:45] <peanutb> SurfnKid, Microsoft is makeing office for linux sometime in the near future
[06:45] <SurfnKid> that would be a disaster
[06:45] <phiwum> Sensae: Very strange.  It doesn't notice changes unless I restart it.
[06:45] <doviende> samuel: if you install the -generic kernel, it has SMP support
[06:45] <kyncani> !upgrade | kalifonria909
[06:45] <ubotu> kalifonria909: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:45] <regeya> after struggling to move my root partition contents to an lvm2 volume, I think I have some stuff to reportas bugs when I'm more awake/aware, but debian and ubuntu have rockin' tools to make things go so much smoother, how awesome.
[06:45] <peanutb> SurfnKid, glad someone agrees with me
[06:45] <phiwum> Sensae: Or perhaps at some  other times?
[06:45] <SurfnKid> peanutb, yeah
[06:45] <tyme-> Can anyone suggest an APP like Windows Media Connect? -- Allows me to stream music from my computer to xbox360 / media center
[06:45] <kitche> SurfnKid: well considering that Linus doesn't want to make an OS probably not
[06:45] <earthen> kalifonria909, you can just change all your repo's in your sources.list file to edgy one's and hope fot the best
[06:45] <samuel> doviende, i was wondering why it was slow... thanks :=)
[06:45] <phiwum> Sensae: Not what I've come to expect from Slackware's cron daemon.
[06:45] <cactaur> kalifronria909: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_upgrade_from_Hoary_Hedgehog_-.3E_Breezy_Badger_-.3E_Dapper_Drake <--that'll help you
[06:46] <Asc> Anybody tried to use a floppy to do a PXE network boot?
[06:46] <kalifonria909> thank you everyone
[06:46] <SurfnKid> Ill quit using computers if the money followers tweak linux so they can control what ppl see watch or do online
[06:46] <peanutb> ok, i know this is sort of a stupid question, but how do i tell what processor is in the current computer?
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> peanutb: 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'
[06:47] <kitche> SurfnKid: well distros can do what they want but Linus already said he's more open to the users
[06:47] <mhiku> what package is libnut
[06:47] <pinchmesh> peanutb, type "dmesg |less"
[06:48] <SurfnKid> kitche, so even with another distro, someone could easily make one (or even myself) without junk or so
[06:48] <doviende> pinchmesh: heh, that's the long way
[06:48] <pinchmesh> ?
[06:48] <kitche> SurfnKid: making a distro isn't really hard it's if it gets big then it becomes harder
[06:48] <mhiku> what package is libnut? its a prereq that i cant find
[06:49] <kitche> SurfnKid: it's more time consuming more then anything
[06:49] <SurfnKid> i see
[06:49] <atarinox> is there a reason i can't view any streaming video in firefox?
[06:49] <SurfnKid> hope open source software stays free forever
[06:49] <phiwum> Sensae: I guess my problem was transient.  Sorry, I've never tried to log someone out via cron jobs, so I'm not sure I can help you.
[06:49] <SurfnKid> but knowing the capitalistic roaches, theyre gonna twist laws
[06:49] <SurfnKid> which sucks
[06:49] <phiwum> Sensae: But have you tried your approach "by hand"?
[06:49] <h3xis> no theyre not
[06:50] <Sensae> Sok
[06:50] <h3xis> you cant make open source not free
[06:50] <idleone> !multimedia | atarinox
[06:50] <ubotu> atarinox: For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:50] <Sensae> phiwum: Just trying it now, the system's in another room, I can't log him out because he isn't part of sudo, though I can log myself in as only user and try it, brb
[06:50] <kitche> h3xis: well techinally you can look at Apple :)
[06:50] <SurfnKid> thats what I was afraid of
[06:50] <pinchmesh> AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ stepping 02
[06:50] <pinchmesh> that's from dmesg
[06:50] <kyncani> mhiku: which package prereqs libnut ??
[06:50] <h3xis> kitche, touche
[06:50] <jarrod10> just so everyone knows, parted cna only shrink hfs+ not grow it
[06:50] <amicrawler> where do i get bearyl for edgy ?
[06:51] <h3xis> kitche, i meant OS in general :P
[06:51] <idleone> !beryl | amicrawler
[06:51] <ubotu> amicrawler: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:51] <enigma32> Anyone out there with the 6.10 ALTERNATE iso on their windows XP machine that can tell me how many bytes it is on their machine?
[06:51] <somerville32> enigma32, Use checksums
[06:51] <enigma32> um, I don't see a checksum listed where I downloaded the file
[06:52] <enigma32> and the disc fails the software test when burned. So I don't know if it's the iso or the burn
[06:52] <somerville32> !verify | enigma32
[06:52] <ubotu> enigma32: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:52] <Bhaskar> where can i found ubuntu software package for installation
[06:52] <somerville32> !software | Bhaskar
[06:52] <ubotu> Bhaskar: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents and !Offline
[06:52] <enigma32> somerville32: ah. I see them all in one file. Thanks.
[06:53] <somerville32> np
[06:53] <amicrawler> i thought there was  bearyl in .deb files not tar.gz
[06:53] <peanutb> does anyone know why a dual processor computer would appear as only haveing one in bot windows and ubuntu?
[06:54] <veronica> good question
[06:54] <Bhaskar> ubotu: i want to add some additional package in ubuntu but how ?
[06:54] <h3xis> something sounds borked
[06:54] <kitche> !beryl|amicrawler use beryl's official repo
[06:54] <ubotu> amicrawler use beryl's official repo: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:54] <kitche> Bhaskar: sudo apt-get install <package>
[06:54] <h3xis> peanutb, in your bios does it say youre taking advantage of both cores?
[06:54] <mneptok> down there they're rounding a posse to ride.
[06:55] <peanutb> h3ris, its not a core issue, its two processors.
[06:55] <h3xis> peanutb, ahhh okay nevermind then XD
[06:55] <kitche> peanutb: you might not be using smp kernel for linux
[06:55] <doviende> peanutb: ok, are there two processors recognized in the boot messages?
[06:55] <pinchmesh> dual core and dual processors both use smp
[06:55] <pinchmesh> dmesg |grep SMP
[06:55] <tyme-> how do i edit my enviorment paths?
[06:56] <jarrod10> does anyone here know how to grow hfs+?
[06:56] <Sensae> peanutb: If there's a single user on and they get killall'd it just drops to the login screen like I want
[06:56] <peanutb> yes, it says it has two p3 processors, at 550 MHZ
[06:56] <kitche> peanutb: and with windows it's been such a long time since I messed with two processors in that since High school
[06:56] <kitche> peanutb: what does cat /proc/cpuinfo tell you to make sure
[06:56] <robtp> __mikem: fyi, that tutorial is a bit incomplete in parts
[06:56] <Raythiest> !java
[06:56] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:56] <mneptok> jarrod10: not recommended, if even possible
[06:56] <phiwum> Sensae: Sounds good...
[06:56] <robtp> __mikem: its pretty complete so far, and quality
[06:57] <doviende> peanutb: also, do "uname -a" and look for "SMP" in the middle
[06:57] <Sensae> brb testing again
[06:57] <__mikem> robtp, yes, if you ever need any help, you can ask me
[06:58] <Raythiest> !multiverse
[06:58] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:58] <FFForever> how do i cast to a shoutcast server?
[06:59] <peanutb> doviende, nope nothing like that, it says it has a Seimens Multiprocessor Interrupt Controller, does that have anything to do with it?
[06:59] <doviende> peanutb: do "uname -a" and paste it here
[06:59] <peanutb> doviende, in gnome device manager
[06:59] <EvilMike> In an epic struggle to try to get my sound card working, I discovered it's a piece of crap and the integrated sound with my motherboard is probably a lot better. So I re-enabled the onboard sound through the bios. Unfortunately now ubuntu has no sound of all.
[06:59] <peanutb> Linux p3-dual 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:59] <FFForever> anyone?
[06:59] <h3xis> FFForever, you should probably ask that on the shoutcast forums or channel (if there is one) since this is specifically ubuntu-related
[07:00] <EvilMike> I THINK it's because both the creative and integrated sound kernel modules are loaded
[07:00] <doviende> peanutb: ok, your kernel can't do multiprocessors
[07:00] <EvilMike> But I'm not sure
[07:00] <FFForever> im on ubuntu
[07:00] <FFForever> so wouldnt it he asked in here?
[07:00] <doviende> peanutb: you need to upgrade
[07:00] <peanutb> doviende, how do i ?
[07:00] <doviende> peanutb: are you on dapper?
[07:00] <peanutb> yes
[07:00] <pinchmesh> upeanut, it needs to say "SMP"
[07:00] <kitche> FFForever: you need to get the shoutcast dj tools
[07:00] <doviende> anyone know which dapper kernel has SMP?
[07:00] <h3xis> FFForever, not really. i mean it wont hurt to ask but this chan is more about the distro itself. not specific apps
[07:01] <Tron_> can anyone tell me how to get libc6 2.4 so i can install vmware
[07:01] <FFForever> i thought the dj plugin was for winamp
[07:01] <FFForever> a windows program
[07:01] <doviende> peanutb: you can do "aptitude search linux-image" to find which kernel packages are available
[07:01] <EvilMike> Is there any way I can tell ubuntu not to use my sound card (and have it only load the driver for the motherboard sound)?
[07:01] <kitche> FFForever: that's for winamp shoutcast has a seperate program for djing for windows and linux
[07:01] <Damn> hello
[07:01] <Damn> sombody can tell me if a can put some display pic using gaim msn messenger
[07:01] <doviende> peanutb: and then "sudo aptitude install linux-image-whatev-12345" once you decide on one to install
[07:01] <h3xis> Damn, yes
[07:02] <FFForever> ohhh really?, can you link me?
[07:02] <pinchmesh> EvilMike,  check in the bios
[07:02] <peanutb> doviende, thanks
[07:02] <kitche> FFForever: shoutcast.com go to downloads then be a dj
[07:02] <doviende> peanutb: np
[07:02] <pinchmesh> some allow you to choose there
[07:02] <robtp> __mikem: got one for you: when you print out a memory address (&var) with the %d format char, will that be the base 10 representation of the hex value you get with the %p formatting char?
[07:02] <Tron_> im having a problem installing vmware, it wants libc6 2.4-1 or greater and i only have 2.3 can anyone tell me how to upgrade?
[07:03] <kitche> Tron_: what ubuntu you on?
[07:03] <EvilMike> pinchmesh: unfortunately there wasn't anything in the bios I could find that would let me disable it :/
[07:03] <FFForever> when did they write there own tool?
[07:03] <kyncani> peanutb: you can check http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/allpackages
[07:03] <kitche> FFForever: umm they had that for years
[07:03] <pinchmesh> k
[07:03] <__mikem> robtp, depends on weather you use %d or %x, %x does hexidecimal representation
[07:03] <EvilMike> now granted I COULD just go in and unplug it manually, but I'd have to get out of my chair to do that
[07:03] <kitche> FFForever: before winamp was good
[07:03] <FFForever> they didnt have it when i was a server/dj for my home sound (2years ago) they only had the winamp
[07:03] <Damn> how man?
[07:03] <FFForever> atleast on there site :/
[07:03] <robtp> __mikem: the doc uses %p, is that essentially the same as %x?
[07:03] <Raythiest> !w32codecs
[07:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:04] <kitche> FFForever: the winamp plugin has nothing to do with shoutcast themselves it was a plugin for winamp made by winamp
[07:04] <davey486> How can i tell what ports are open?
[07:04] <kyncani> !w64codecs
[07:04] <h3xis> Damn, in your "accounts" click on your msn one and click Modify. there should be am "open" button referring to a display pic.
[07:04] <__mikem> robtp, never heard of %p, just use %x
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w64codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <kyncani> :'(
[07:04] <peanutb> ok, im installling linux-image-686
[07:04] <drivera90> Is there Winamp on Ubuntu?
[07:04] <FFForever> wow never knew that :D
[07:04] <FFForever> win(windows)amp
[07:04] <robtp> __mikem: %p and %x look to be the same except in that %p prepends the 0x
[07:05] <davey486> I'm try to get a news reader to work and i can't
[07:05] <FFForever> so uhhhh get wine?
[07:05] <h3xis> drivera90, audacious
[07:05] <peanutb> drivera90, xmms is like it
[07:05] <kitche> drivera90: something close called streamtuner or xmms you choose streamtuner is good
[07:05] <enigma32> drivera90: try xmms
[07:05] <__mikem> robtp, let me throw togeather some code and try it out
[07:05] <drivera90> Bah. I'm alright as is, I just miss whipping the llama's ass.
[07:05] <kitche> drivera90: streamtuner can do shoutcasts and such without you hunting for the link to play the stream
[07:05] <Damn> how can i put it brother
[07:06] <drivera90> I don't really know what *casts are. I got left behind in that media movement.
[07:06] <drivera90> I'm still all about P2P and mp3s.
[07:06] <robtp> __mikem: if you wanna save a few seconds http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/209/
[07:06] <kitche> drivera90: shoutcast is streaming audio or movies it's been around since the 90's or so
[07:06] <kitche> anyways I m going to bed now :)_
[07:06] <pinchmesh> "netstat -p" lists the sockets
[07:07] <__mikem> robtp, I already had the program compiled by the time you posted that link. Yes, for printing pointer values, %p seems to work fine
[07:07] <drivera90> And blogs have been around for 15 years, but they became cool like 5 years ago :)
[07:07] <Sensae> peanutb: Now I can't get the cron job to do anything
[07:08] <Sensae> Bah I give up for now.
[07:08] <peanutb> Sensae, i really am not the person to ask about cron.
[07:08] <pinchmesh> "man cron"
[07:09] <Trixsey> Is the broken "Azureus 2.5.0.0"-package in the repos fixed?
[07:09] <pr0gress0r> greetings - finally back after upgrading to 6.10 - nice and neat.
[07:09] <peanutb> Sensae, you might try a shell script that execuits the commands, and is initiated by cron?
[07:09] <ken> .
[07:10] <pr0gress0r> why is there no 'nvidia' driver listed on the hardware display setting config? It is set at 'nv' now but i needed 'nvidia' to get the 1680x1050
[07:10] <pinchmesh> another great tool is apropos, eg "apropos cron"
[07:10] <Tron_> anyone know how to upgrade libc6 for ubuntu dapper, i need 2.4 for vmware
[07:10] <kyncani> !nvidia | pr0gress0r
[07:10] <ubotu> pr0gress0r: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:10] <pr0gress0r> thanks
[07:10] <CarCase928> i have installed Ubuntu on my laptop, but i need to update the nvidia driver, and i forgot how, how do i do it?
[07:10] <pinchmesh> which ubantu has the 2.6.19 kernel natively??
[07:11] <pinchmesh> need it for an areca controller
[07:11] <h3xis> maddash my heerooo
[07:11] <davey486> i need help getting pan newsreader to work it say "Connection to news, port 119 failed: success any ideas?
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> pinchmesh: Feisty is using 2.6.20 now, but is NOT STABLE OR RELEASED.  (devel branch)
[07:11] <IntuitiveNipple> davey, can you telnet to the same port?
[07:11] <doviende> pinchmesh: edgy has 2.6.17.   2.6.19 came out in november i think.
[07:12] <davey486> i don't know how to do that
[07:12] <pinchmesh> bah, where can i get it?? 2.6.19 that is
[07:12] <doviende> pinchmesh: you could borrow a 2.6.19 package from a feisty repository i suppose, or build your own
[07:12] <kyncani> CarCase928: you don't upgrade just nvidia, you upgrade the entire distro
[07:12] <maddash> h3xis!! my subject!
[07:12] <h3xis> ^^
[07:12] <CarCase928> how do i do it?
[07:12] <kyncani> !upgrade | CarCase928
[07:12] <ubotu> CarCase928: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:12] <IntuitiveNipple> Davey: this might help you test it - http://www.osix.net/modules/article/?id=628
[07:13] <pinchmesh> is there an EASY way to get 2.6.19 on the install cd???
[07:13] <doviende> changing the install CD is probably a real pain
[07:13] <davey486> thanks 4ur help
[07:13] <pinchmesh> yeah. it prolly is
[07:13] <CarCase928> does this mean installing a new version of Ubuntu? i have the latest version, 6.10
[07:13] <Tron_> im having a problem installing vmware, it wants libc6 2.4-1 or greater and i only have 2.3 can anyone tell me how to upgrade?
[07:13] <xtknight> i would love to know how to change the install CD, personally.  it's a real pain to install on my core 2 duo system
[07:13] <kyncani> pinchmesh: well, 1) feisty has 2.6.19
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> pinchmesh: not very easy, no.  Using a non-standard kernel requires a little bit of effort.
[07:14] <kyncani> pinchmesh: or 2) you could use debootstrap
[07:14] <tyme-> !sources
[07:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:14] <tyme-> !EasySource
[07:14] <CarCase928> !nvidia
[07:14] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:14] <kyncani> pinchmesh: or do both, i needed 2.6.18 or later, so i installed feisty and debootstrap'ped debian sid from ubuntu feisty
[07:15] <pinchmesh> k, thanks.. i'm dnlding 6.2 now, guess i need to get fiesty
[07:15] <maddash> does anyone here use ubuntu on a laptop? maybe even a thinkpad? I just did a server install of dapper in expert mode - an error in my part, it now seems. for now, I'm trying to get suspend/hibern working. I've installed acpid and acpi, but to no avail. when I installed the "hibernate" package and issued "sudo hibernate", a message told me that my kernel (which i replaced with a 2.6.12-27 686 version) didn't support suspend. told me some
[07:15] <IntuitiveNipple> Is there a way to probe for hard drives *after* booting, when the boot-probe was skipped using "hde=noprobe hdf=noprobe" ?
[07:15] <Tron_> anyone know how to upgrade libc6 for ubuntu dapper, i need 2.4 for vmware
[07:15] <doviende> maddash: well firstly, you might want something newer than 2.6.12
[07:16] <pinchmesh> i used freebsd for years, and tried suse 10.2 cause of the all the hardware driver issues with freebsd. what's there is great, just not the drivers i need
[07:16] <doviende> maddash: any chance you could just install edgy desktop version?
[07:16] <maddash> good god - not 2.6.12, I meant the 2.6.15-27
[07:16] <doviende> heh
[07:16] <maddash> my current kern is 2.6.15-27 686
[07:16] <xtknight> Tron_: what version of vmware and what version of ubuntu
[07:17] <doviende> i think 2.6.17 has the userspace suspend code in it
[07:17] <pr0gress0r> is it recommended to set the repository for universe? open community software? mine is not selected.
[07:17] <IntuitiveNipple> I installed Edgy Eft on a sony Vaio and the suspend/hibernate worked ok most of the time
[07:17] <doviende> maddash: i'm using edgy on my laptop
[07:17] <kyncani> maddash: i would try a more recent packages : i would try edgy and see
[07:18] <maddash> doviende: is there a list of packages that are installed via the desktop setup option?
[07:18] <kyncani> well, at least everyone agree here :)
[07:19] <doviende> maddash: uhh....probably somewhere, but i dunno
[07:19] <doviende> sorry
[07:19] <newbuntu> is anyone here on KDE that can help with an  xsession problem?
[07:19] <doviende> maddash: but really, you should try to get the 2.6.17-10-generic kernel installed
[07:19] <cyphase> where are the nautilus notes stored?
[07:19] <maddash> doviende: what's wrong with the 686 kernel?
[07:19] <VMT2007> Heh, some idiots offered kernel.org $50,000 for permission to take a snapshot of the kernel sources for subsequent conversion to a BSD license
[07:20] <veronica> hehehe
[07:20] <nevron> is there a channel for programing?
[07:20] <newbuntu> I have 2 or 3 xsessions running in task manager and it takes about 10 minutes for my desktop to show up after boot
[07:20] <doviende> maddash: edgy has a generic kernel, and 2.6.17 has better suspend support
[07:20] <doviende> nevron: you want to learn basic stuff?
[07:20] <lovloss> *passes out cake for a new year of ubuntu*
[07:20] <nevron> yes doviende
[07:20] <HellDragon2> hi
[07:20] <doviende> nevron: IRC channels for programming are usually very specific
[07:21] <newbuntu> I believe ive screwed up my xorg.conf and its back up
[07:21] <maddash> kyncani, doviende: I don't think versioning is the problem. I've used breezy on this very same laptop, and susp/hiber works right out of the box - b/c I installed right out of the box...
[07:21] <doviende> nevron: i suggest finding a "learning python" website or something like that
[07:21] <lovloss> nevron: New to programming? :3
[07:21] <nevron> i am reading a very basic python guide right now
[07:21] <nevron> the name is dive into python
[07:21] <amicrawler> oh shit  i don't want to have to compile bearyl  from src  is there any  bin or .deb that work >?
[07:22] <DarthLappy> !ohmy | amicrawler
[07:22] <ubotu> amicrawler: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:22] <IntuitiveNipple> Best way to learn coding is to read other peoples code and work out what its doing
[07:22] <po0f> nevron: 'Byte of Python' is even basicerererer.
[07:22] <lovloss> nevron: Best way to learn is to do it. Lots of good programs for that. I suggest eclipse
[07:22] <xtknight> has anyone here made a gnome applet?
[07:22] <hyphenated> newbuntu: in a shell, run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:22] <davey486> doviende: I was able to connect to a news server at port 119
[07:22] <amicrawler> compiling from src does not work all the time
[07:22] <doviende> nevron: there's probably a python channel here, and they could help you with problems...but if you learn the general basic ideas of programming on a webpage or a book then that will help
[07:22] <nevron> ok is there a gui based compiler for python?
[07:22] <DarthLappy> !beryl | amicrawler
[07:22] <ubotu> amicrawler: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:22] <davey486> but a can't get a newsgroup lost from my program
[07:22] <po0f> nevron: You don't compile Python.
[07:22] <doviende> maddash: ok, so this same laptop has worked in the past?
[07:23] <arrenlex> nevron: a) WTF is a GUI compiler? And why? What would you show? b) Python isn't compiled.
[07:23] <DarthLappy> amicrawler: There's a howto on the Wiki somewhere...
[07:23] <nevron> po0f does it work like html
[07:23] <maddash> doviende: yep. w/breezy
[07:23] <Tron_> im having a problem installing vmware, it wants libc6 2.4-1 or greater and i only have 2.3 can anyone tell me how to upgrade?
[07:23] <po0f> nevron: You can think of it like a Bash script.
[07:23] <arrenlex> nevron: Python is interpreted. Like a shell script.
[07:23] <DarthLappy> amicrawler: Mentions repos you'll need as well as pre- and post- setup.
[07:23] <doviende> nevron: if you want a big GUI thing, maybe try "eclipse"
[07:23] <po0f> nevron: But like, times 23,000.
[07:23] <function1> what toolkit does audacity use? is there any way you can get a new theme for it? because audacity, and other applications are absolutely ugly. (edgy)
[07:23] <doviende> nevron: many people like using "emacs" for programming too
[07:23] <arrenlex> Dammit, po0f, stop stealing taking the words out of my mouth! >=||
[07:23] <lovloss> eclipse is good just because it keeps track of everything you do
[07:23] <doviende> nevron: i prefer emacs to all those GUI environments
[07:24] <enigma32> function1: audacity uses wxWidgets... which uses either gtk or x or whatever else
[07:24] <xtknight> function1: it just uses motif i believe
[07:24] <arrenlex> function1: Audacity < 1.3.0? wxwidgets.
[07:24] <SyncopatedFool> i'm having problems getting different keyboard layouts to work in kde, i'm trying to set up korean input, any help?
[07:24] <xtknight> i agree it is ugly, like xmms since they don't use the gtk
[07:24] <po0f> arrenlex: ?
[07:24] <poningru> !restricted formats
[07:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:24] <arrenlex> function1: You can skin it by using a gtk+ skin.
[07:24] <doviende> maddash: ok, i guess we need to find some error messages in the logs then
[07:24] <veronica> syn
[07:24] <Tron_> no one can help me?
[07:24] <xtknight> Tron_: what version of vmware and what version of ubuntu
[07:24] <arrenlex> function1: audacity >= 1.3.0 uses GTK2. You can skin it by using a GTK2 skin
[07:24] <doviende> maddash: do you get errors when you "sudo hibernate"?
[07:24] <function1> arrenlex: skin audacity or skin wxwidgets?
[07:24] <amicrawler> there is  bearly  in the src  in the depo  @http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ but does not work
[07:24] <veronica> SyncopatedFool: have you tried changing layout in control center?
[07:24] <Tron_> vmwareworkstation_5.5.3-34686_i386
[07:25] <po0f> Tron_: Upgrading libc6 is a pain, and probably not doable at all in Ubuntu; you're better off upgrading to Edgy.
[07:25] <doviende> maddash: might want to check in dmesg too
[07:25] <pepe> hello. I have a configuration problem with my ubuntu. I installed djk1.5 through apt, and it set a default path to it, which i would like to change, but i can't find where it is noted.
[07:25] <Tron_> how can i update?
[07:25] <arrenlex> function1: Audacity -> wxwigets -> gtk+, so adding a gtk+ theme changes the look of audacity.
[07:25] <function1> ah
[07:25] <xtknight> Tron_: please answer, what ubuntu are you using?
[07:25] <Tron_> Linux debian-desktop 2.6.15-27-386
[07:25] <JustNew> HI all. I've got a HP C5180 all in one printer on my local network. (ie, the printer is actually connected via ethernet. Any ideas how to get her going in Ubuntu?
[07:25] <maddash> doviende: yep - here's the hibernate return msg I told you about before:
[07:25] <lovloss> I dont think it makes sense to program without a gui when the really good ones can keep total track of every single function, class, whateevr you do. For someone like me who loses his wallet every day, thats great
[07:25] <SyncopatedFool> veronica: yes.  I clicked on the flag on the tray, and it switches to the layout, but when i try to type, it gives me english characters instead of korean.
[07:25] <Tron_> i dunno just what uname reports
[07:25] <Tron_> Linux debian-desktop 2.6.15-27-386
[07:25] <nevron> arrenlex:  a compiler that can help me see actually what i am doing because i am just starting to code how would i show anything if i have been coding for only 5 seconds?
[07:25] <doviende> maddash: heh, sorry, i forgot about it
[07:25] <Tron_> i think its dapper
[07:25] <xtknight> Tron_: lsb_release -a
[07:26] <veronica> SyncopatedFool: Just a sec
[07:26] <maddash> doviende: Your kernel does not appear to have Software Suspend2 compiled in...
[07:26] <drivingmenuts> hello
[07:26] <ozoneco> how do i tell drive usage?
[07:26] <drivingmenuts> can anyone help me
[07:26] <xtknight> nevron: you're speaking of an Integrated Development Environment (IDE).  IDEs call compilers and linkers
[07:26] <Tron_> Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[07:26] <po0f> ozoneco: df -h
[07:26] <Kvek> hello
[07:26] <Tron_> yeah its dapper
[07:26] <ozoneco> ty
[07:26] <drivingmenuts> im trying to upgrade dapper to edgy
[07:26] <doviende> maddash: ahh, ok
[07:26] <drivingmenuts> and i keep getting this error
[07:26] <function1> arrenlex: looks like i have 1.2.4b. latest version in the repos for edgy
[07:26] <arrenlex> nevron: ...again, this time in English. o_O A compiler would help you see what you were doing how? Doing what? Show anything of what?
[07:26] <doviende> maddash: so maybe it's just the way that dapper sets up the kernel
[07:26] <arrenlex> function1: Strongly advise you to get the new beta. It's purty.
[07:26] <doviende> maddash: have you ever compiled a kernel before?
[07:27] <drivingmenuts> failed to fetch http://ubuntu.beryl-project
[07:27] <enigma32> offtopic: What is Audacity 1.3.0+ using?
[07:27] <__lonewolf> I'm compiling mine right now
[07:27] <function1> still gtk theme the way to go? is this the same as a gnome theme?
[07:27] <xtknight> Tron_: vmware is telling you you need a newer libc?
[07:27] <po0f> nevron: Use GEdit, it has syntax highlighting by default available for Python.
[07:27] <Tron_> yeah
[07:27] <maddash> doviende: nope - why?
[07:27] <Tron_> says i need 2.4-1
[07:27] <nevron> arrenlex i think you are very rude and absolutely not helping at all
[07:27] <arrenlex> function1: Yes it is, and no it isn't, respectively.
[07:27] <Tron_> i only have 2.3 something
[07:27] <xtknight> Tron_: very odd, ive installed vmware numerous times on everything and ive never seen that message.  could you post the whole error log on pastebin so i can see what else is going on?
[07:27] <Kvek> I need some help please
[07:27] <IntuitiveNipple> Programming: Beginners Guide: http://www.guidetoprogramming.com/component/option,com_/Itemid,0/option,content/task,view/id,20/
[07:27] <doviende> maddash: well, if you had, then it might be the easiest way to fix this ;)
[07:27] <maddash> doviende: I didn't compile this kernel myself, if that's what you're asking...
[07:27] <function1> k i will have a peek then
[07:27] <Tron_> yes one sec
[07:27] <arrenlex> nevron: I'm trying to understand what you're saying. Is this impolite?
[07:27] <doviende> maddash: if not, then we need to get you a new kernel through apt-get
[07:28] <maddash> doviende: easy is good - what should I do?
[07:28] <xtknight> arrenlex: he means an IDE
[07:28] <arrenlex> xtknight: OH!
[07:28] <arrenlex> Okay. xDD
[07:28] <veronica> SyncopatedFool: i know you have tried the flag but have you tried settings>regioal>keyboard layout and have you localized for the language?
[07:28] <doviende> maddash: well, i don't have time to guide you through your first kernel install tonight
[07:28] <pepe> please, can anyone tell me where the default PATH and primary is set?
[07:28] <maddash> doviende: hold on, I'm going to try the 386 kernel
[07:28] <po0f> arrenlex: Duh, you're 'sposed to be psychic.  ;P
[07:28] <doviende> maddash: ya, try that
[07:28] <nevron> there will always be people like you arrenlex but i am getting better learning to communicate with your kind
[07:28] <drivingmenuts> can anyone tell me how to check the kernel version?
[07:28] <arrenlex> po0f: I know. Something's wrong with me. :(
[07:28] <pepe> "default and primary PATH", sorry
[07:29] <IntuitiveNipple> pepe - in bash?
[07:29] <__lonewolf> uname -r
[07:29] <xtknight> pepe: echo $PATH  ?
[07:29] <__lonewolf> drivingmenuts, uname -r
[07:29] <Kvek> how long should it take to install ubuntu 6.06?
[07:29] <enigma32> arrenlex: what is audacity 1.3.0+ using instead of wxwidgets?
[07:29] <drivingmenuts> thanks lonewolf
[07:29] <arrenlex> nevron: People like me? I'm trying to understand what you're saying to see if I can help you.
[07:29] <pepe> intuitivenipple:yes
[07:29] <__lonewolf> drivingmenuts, no probs
[07:29] <lovloss> >.<
[07:29] <drivingmenuts> lonewolf
[07:29] <IntuitiveNipple> pepe: read http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/postlfs/profile.html
[07:29] <pepe> xtnight: nope, the place where it is set
[07:29] <drivingmenuts> do u know how to replace the file?
[07:29] <Tron_> xtknight: http://rafb.net/p/lA9qwy57.html
[07:29] <arrenlex> enigma32: I'm going to go out on a limb and say it uses gtk2 directly, just like a normal gnome program. Please, please don't quote me on that.
[07:29] <__lonewolf> drivingmenuts, which file do you want to replace?
[07:30] <nevron> arrenlex we both know that it is not the case
[07:30] <n2diy_> pepe: that is how you set it too.
[07:30] <IntuitiveNipple> PATH: usually etc/profile and then the user's profile
[07:30] <drivingmenuts> one sec.
[07:30] <enigma32> arrenlex: thanks. maybe I'll look more into it.
[07:30] <SyncopatedFool> veronica: yes, that's how i set up the keyboard layouts.  was i supposed to install the internationalization files in synaptec?  i did go into Settings/Regional/Region/Country and Language to set that
[07:30] <drivingmenuts> i want to replace
[07:30] <arrenlex> nevron: No, actually, that is exactly the case. You were talking about a compiler helping you code, and I was trying to find out what exactly you were looking for.
[07:30] <drivingmenuts> this ipw3945.ko
[07:30] <drivingmenuts> with the filei downloaded
[07:30] <xtknight> Tron_: where did you get the deb file?  vmware's site?  that must be the  edgy version i guess but my package has always been an extracted one
[07:30] <Kvek> I need some help on installing ubuntu on my pc
[07:31] <xtknight> Kvek: what issues are you having?
[07:31] <Tron_> can i upgrade to edgy easily?
[07:31] <xtknight> Tron_: yes,
[07:31] <xtknight> !upgrade
[07:31] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:31] <Kvek> well every thing works fine just would like to know how long it takes to install
[07:31] <nevron> ok i am new to linux and i have seen visual basic compilers and used them does python have anything like that?
[07:31] <Tron_> thanks for your help
[07:31] <__lonewolf> drivingmenuts, I'm not sure if you can just replace a file like that
[07:31] <veronica> SyncopatedFool: i think you would need localization files to type in the language
[07:31] <po0f> nevron: Basically, Python isn't compiled.  You write your script/program into a file ending in the *.py extension and run it with `python file.py`.
[07:31] <arrenlex> nevron: This is like calling a motorcycle a "car" when you're buying a vehicle, and then getting mad at the salespersons because they keep asking you how you expect to do wheelies.
[07:31] <xtknight> Kvek: depends on your PC and internet connection
[07:32] <__lonewolf> drivingmenuts, but if you need to copy it, use the cp command. Are you new to Linux/Unix?
[07:32] <Kvek> i have ubuntu 6.06 disk
[07:32] <mister_roboto> po0f: i think he's looking for an IDE like visual studio
[07:32] <SyncopatedFool> veronica: let me check to see that i installed it
[07:32] <po0f> nevron: You can use any text editor to write it, but use one with syntax highlighting.  GEdit has syntax highlighting on by default for Python.
[07:32] <nevron> ok it is not compiled i understand that but what should i use as an editor? what do you people use when you are writing python stuff
[07:32] <xtknight> does the Ubuntu CD download stuff off the net or am i thinking of Debian?
[07:32] <veronica> SyncopatedFool: Okay
[07:32] <nevron> ok po0f thank you
[07:33] <pepe> intuitivenipple: does not look to be what i needed. i might have asked the wrong question.
[07:33] <xtknight> Kvek: i dont think it wuold take more than 2 hours on any machine
[07:33] <IntuitiveNipple> xt - the CD doesn't download anything during install, but it can after once you install additional packages
[07:33] <drivingmenuts> does upgrading to edgy will change the kernel version?
[07:33] <xtknight> Kvek: but configuring it is another story
[07:33] <po0f> mister_roboto: I know, but it's not really what he wants.
[07:33] <Kvek> what do i need to do during the install process
[07:33] <pepe> intuitivenipple: i would like to find where the path to my jvm is set upon boot
[07:33] <drivingmenuts> does upgrading to edgy will change kernel version?
[07:33] <Tron_> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/source/Sources.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[07:33] <pepe> intuitivenipple: and i thought it was directly done into bash scripts
[07:34] <Tron_> got that when i tried to upgrade
[07:34] <pepe> intuitivenipple: but it is not.
[07:34] <xtknight> drivingmenuts: yes edgy uses a new kernel
[07:34] <drivingmenuts> kk
[07:34] <drivingmenuts> cool
[07:34] <Asc> On the livecd, if I extract the contents of /casper/filesystem.squashfs to a partition with no files on it, the result will be a bootable partition, right?
[07:34] <__lonewolf> drivingmenuts, no it won't. If you can, try a fresh install of Edgy instead of upgrading it. Upgrading to Edgy has a lot of problems.
[07:34] <IntuitiveNipple> pepe - those ARE bash scripts
[07:34] <__lonewolf> xtknight, I don't think it will upgrade. A friend of mine tried and it didn't.
[07:35] <SyncopatedFool> veronica: yeah, i'm an idiot, i missed that. let's see if that helps
[07:35] <xtknight> __lonewolf: upgrade dapper->edgy you mean?
[07:35] <__lonewolf> xtknight, yes
[07:35] <xtknight> __lonewolf: oh, kernel version?
[07:35] <Kvek> so what do i need to do during the install process?
[07:35] <veronica> SyncopatedFool: noone is an idiot
[07:35] <__lonewolf> xtknight, he was asking if the kernel version would be upgraded too.
[07:35] <xtknight> __lonewolf: i dont know to be honest i did it a couple days ago and it kept my kernel, but it was a custom compiled 2.6.19.1 one
[07:35] <__lonewolf> Ah okay
[07:35] <pepe> intuitivenipple: true, but the info is not in them. i found nothing related to my jdk/jvm in them. I expected to find a set PATH=BLABLA/usr/lib/jvm/.... but noting
[07:35] <xtknight> i am pretty sure theres a newer kernel than dapper in the edgy repositories isnt there?
[07:35] <drivingmenuts> i can't freshly install edgy man
[07:35] <SyncopatedFool> veronica: i know, self-depracation helps me pass the time faster. :-)  not working still
[07:36] <drivingmenuts> cuz edgy gives me this error
[07:36] <xtknight> and when you do dist-upgrade im not sure how it would gloss over that
[07:36] <drivingmenuts> soft lock up cpu#0 does anyone know about this?
[07:36] <__lonewolf> dist-upgrade broke many friends' systems :)
[07:36] <drivingmenuts> soft lock up cpu#0 does anyone know about this error?
[07:36] <__lonewolf> that is, dist-upgrade to Edgy
[07:36] <xtknight> i used the gksu update manager -c app myself
[07:36] <drivingmenuts> i did that too
[07:37] <IntuitiveNipple> pepe  your user path is added in the  ~/.bash_profile
[07:37] <veronica> SyncopatedFool: so you installed the local file for the language and changed the keyboard layout so far?
[07:37] <isede> both Firefox and Opera seem to have problems with https. is there a system-wide library i should reinstall?
[07:37] <xtknight> isede: really?  https works fine here
[07:37] <pepe> intuitivenipple yes, i looked there too. i fact i also tried grep-R jvm * ;)
[07:37] <isede> no
[07:37] <isede> i man , on my system
[07:37] <pepe> intuitivenipple at lots of places
[07:37] <isede> i mean
[07:37] <Tron_> how do i fix this error?
[07:37] <SyncopatedFool> veronica: let me double check the keyboard layout
[07:37] <Kvek> so it takes 2hrs to install via the live cd?
[07:37] <Tron_> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/source/Sources.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[07:37] <__lonewolf> isede, I think you should enable crypt-something in your kernel?
[07:38] <xtknight> isede: wow, sorry, i wasnt being sarcastic, im obviously too tired tonight lol
[07:38] <IntuitiveNipple> pepe - does that path already contain what you're looking for, and you just want to find out where its set?
[07:38] <drivingmenuts> does anyone know this error soft lock up cpu#0???????????????????????????????///
[07:38] <isede> it was working till yestrday, i killed firefox couple of times and now nothing https is loading on any browser
[07:38] <veronica> SyncopatedFool: if you changed the keybord layout and no response try putting the language in locale under the default one.
[07:39] <pepe> intuitivenipple: yes
[07:39] <IntuitiveNipple> pepe: for Java, if i understand you correctly, see: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/essential/environment/paths.html
[07:39] <__lonewolf> isede: run firefox from the shell and note it if throws any errors on the console/shell
[07:39] <drivingmenuts> would someone please help me?
[07:40] <isede> <__lonewolf: ok
[07:40] <isede> __lonewolf: no, no errors
[07:40] <drivingmenuts> soft cpu lock up tt.t.t.t.............
[07:40] <IntuitiveNipple> drivingmenuts: have you Googled for that error and read the various reports to see if you have a similar scenario?
[07:40] <drivingmenuts> yes
[07:40] <pepe> intuitivenipple: thanks a lot. RTFMing..
[07:41] <drivingmenuts> in fact it tells me to replace the file
[07:41] <drivingmenuts> but i can't even boot
[07:41] <IntuitiveNipple> did you see any reports mentioning the same hardware devices you have, maybe?
[07:41] <drivingmenuts> yes
[07:41] <Tron_> how do i disable this inactive repository so i can upgrade?
[07:41] <Tron_> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/source/Sources.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[07:41] <drivingmenuts> ipw3945 kill switch
[07:41] <passwordissaman> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable -> error Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[07:41] <SyncopatedFool> veronica: still not going anywhere
[07:41] <function1> arrenlex: k, how to switch gtk2 theme?
[07:41] <SyncopatedFool> still typing in english
[07:41] <xtknight> Tron_: it's in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:41] <isede> __lonewolf: in partcular, neither firefox nor opera wants to open gmail
[07:41] <arrenlex> function1: It's your gnome theme. Are you running gnome?
[07:41] <Tron_> can i just remove it?
[07:41] <Asc> Now this is why I love linux.  I'll just install DSL on my swap partition, boot that, and use ssh to copy Ubuntu to the main partition.
[07:42] <IntuitiveNipple> drivingmenuts: have you got SD or flash cards in a reader during boot?
[07:42] <__lonewolf> isede: Start it in the console and go to any https site
[07:42] <Tron_> i dont know why its not working
[07:42] <function1> yea gnome
[07:42] <drivingmenuts> no
[07:42] <isede> __lonewolf: it opens the page but nothing is displayed
[07:42] <passwordissaman> can i revert the x configuration?
[07:42] <__lonewolf> Oh
[07:42] <Tron_> everything else works fine but that address is messing up
[07:42] <veronica> SyncopatedFool: Let me check one more thing
[07:42] <arrenlex> function1: Do you know how to change your gnome theme?
[07:42] <isede> __lonewolf: i just did
[07:42] <xtknight> Tron_: i wouldnt suggest it but try modifying it to use another dapper-updates mirror
[07:42] <function1> yah
[07:42] <isede> __lonewolf gmail
[07:42] <isede> __lonewolf: yahoo
[07:42] <drivingmenuts> hey inu niple
[07:42] <arrenlex> function1: There you go. :)
[07:42] <drivingmenuts> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/60053
[07:42] <drivingmenuts> this is the website
[07:42] <kalifonria909> does dapper do a good job with xg
[07:42] <kalifonria909> xgl
[07:42] <isede> __lonewolf: everyhting is fine until HTTPS kicks in
[07:42] <passwordissaman> I screwd up my X configuration, how do i revert it?
[07:42] <__lonewolf> isede: I had that same problem sometime back, and all I had to do was enable crypt-something (forgot what it was) in the kernel and recompile the kernel
[07:43] <isede> __lonewolf: you think i corrupted kerner when halting the system/?
[07:43] <isede> __lonewolf: kernel
[07:43] <__lonewolf> isede: Do you know how to create a stock kernel? Actually I'm surprised its not there in yours.
[07:43] <drivingmenuts> hey inuitive nipple help?
[07:43] <__lonewolf> isede: what did you do to halt it?
[07:43] <IntuitiveNipple> drivingmenuts: check this bug report? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63418
[07:43] <function1> arrenlex: it didnt make audacity look any better though it still looks clunky and gross with non-antialiased fonts. it never matched my gnome 'human' theme
[07:43] <isede> __lonewolf: i typed "halt"
[07:43] <drivingmenuts> yeah
[07:43] <drivingmenuts> that's the bug i have
[07:43] <drivingmenuts> i sent u link
[07:44] <__lonewolf> isede: halt -n should work, it won't corrupt the kernel
[07:44] <kalifonria909> is xgl worth the pain to install with the new distro's
[07:44] <arrenlex> function1: Are you sure you're running audacity 1.3.0beta?
[07:44] <maddash> can someone help me get suspend/hibern working on my laptop? I've done a server install of dapper, so I think I'm missing the necessary packages...
[07:44] <Q_Continuum> Azureus quits as soon as it opens and launches the initial setup wizard - any ideas?  (Just tried logging out and back in in case it was already running)
[07:44] <isede> __lonewolf: perhaps i could just reinstal the kernel ?
[07:44] <function1> oh no i havent installed that yet
[07:44] <arrenlex> function1: Oh! That's different.
[07:44] <arrenlex> function1: gtk+ themes are harder.
[07:44] <SyncopatedFool> veronica: i do remember on my old redhat and mandrake machines that to type in korean, i physically switched the entire environment to korean, but i honestly don't want to do that, it's not my native language, so it gets confusing
[07:44] <drivingmenuts> inuitive now what do i do?
[07:44] <__lonewolf> isede: Yes you could, do you know how to do it?
[07:44] <function1> ahh ok i will google for gtk+ theme switching
[07:45] <__lonewolf> isede: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:45] <arrenlex> function1: Why not just install the beta?
[07:45] <veronica> SyncopatedFool: Only other thing I can suggest is to try scim
[07:45] <__lonewolf> isede: apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r`
[07:45] <doviende> SyncopatedFool: ya, that's annoying
[07:45] <SyncopatedFool> scim?
[07:45] <arrenlex> __lonewolf: Won't the second command just try to install the kernel you're currently running?
[07:45] <drivingmenuts> hey intuitive nipple?
[07:45] <drivingmenuts> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/60053 anything?
[07:46] <__lonewolf> arrenlex: I generally use both
[07:46] <veronica> SyncopatedFool: it's an alternate language input program. link to info is here.................http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[07:46] <function1> arrenles: i generally like to use the stuff from the repos. not that im scared of compiling and using checkinstall, but it just feels less official. if i cant get anywhere with the gtk+ themes ill get audacity 1.3. so it uses gtk2 then?
[07:46] <IntuitiveNipple> drivingmenuts: the usual practice is to strip the PC down to bare minimum hardware, boot, test, and then slowly add each deice back until you see the error - then you know what is causing it - if it is hardware-related
[07:46] <__lonewolf> arrenlex: Oh, the linux-headers is for creating your custom kernel. You're right.
[07:46] <veronica> SyncopatedFool: That may be just what you are looking for.
[07:46] <isede> __lonewolf: thsank you very much, i'll try now
[07:47] <drivingmenuts> it's about ipw3945 kill switch
[07:47] <__lonewolf> isede: Just install linux-image-`uname -r`
[07:47] <drivingmenuts> which is wireless
[07:47] <drivingmenuts> plus i have a laptop
[07:47] <arrenlex> __lonewolf: No, I'm serious. You're trying to install the kernel you're already running. Why?
[07:47] <veronica> SyncopatedFool: not sure if there is an edgy or dapper version though
[07:47] <IntuitiveNipple> ahhh, well if you're sure you know the cause, and there's no fix, the polite phrase is, I think, "you're foooked!"
[07:47] <function1> arrenlex: not arrenles. sorry. msg for you ^^
[07:47] <arrenlex> __lonewolf: It's like trying to install "synaptic" from inside synaptic.
[07:48] <po0f> arrenlex: Sometimes redundancy is a good thing.
[07:48] <SyncopatedFool> veronica: there is.  i somehow have it installed?  now the $100,000 question is how i get it running
[07:48] <__lonewolf> arrenlex: He wants to reinstall his kernel
[07:48] <arrenlex> __lonewolf: That will just say it's already installed, then. You should be using apt-get install --reinstall
[07:48] <veronica> SyncopatedFool: check the link i gave you. it explains it im pretty sure
[07:49] <__lonewolf> arrenlex: Oh, thanks! I thought apt-get install would do a reinstall
[07:49] <arrenlex> __lonewolf: Nope. That's why I was confused. Sorry. :)
[07:49] <pr0gress0r> ok, i have now enabled the nvidia driver. Now whats the trick to get sceptre monitors to show up?
[07:49] <veronica> SyncopatedFool: looking over the page it seems to be pretty complete
[07:49] <__lonewolf> arrenlex: I moved over from Gentoo. I used to do emerge for install/reinstall. :)
[07:49] <arrenlex> __lonewolf: See? em@sam:~$ sudo apt-get install kedit
[07:49] <arrenlex> kedit is already the newest version.
[07:50] <__lonewolf> arrenlex: Yes
[07:50] <po0f> __lonewolf: Have you recovered yet?  ;)
[07:50] <james296> how can you remove NIC support in Ubuntu? cuz I think after enabling that it caused a error message to come up everytime I boot up that says it says to execute HAL!
[07:50] <__lonewolf> po0f: Actually not yet! I still keep  typing emerge blah blah and then change it to apt-get :)
[07:51] <kalifornia909> what program should i use to burn iso's
[07:51] <veronica> hehehehe
[07:51] <james296> can someone plz help me?
[07:51] <po0f> __lonewolf: It's a long road, but you'll get through just fine.
[07:51] <veronica> kalifornia909: k3b :)
[07:51] <Q_Continuum> Azureus is broken out of the box.  Installed, also have the Java 5.0 runtime installed.  Start it up, it triggers the new user wizard, and closes immediately.
[07:51] <po0f> kalifornia909: I use GnomeBaker.
[07:51] <arrenlex> !iso | kalifornia909
[07:51] <ubotu> kalifornia909: To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning.
[07:51] <__lonewolf> po0f: I hope so, I used to use Debian 64-bit in 2004 until I switched to Gentoo 64 in 2005
[07:51] <arrenlex> kalifornia909: Nevermind, that factoid wasn't as useful as I thought it was.
[07:52] <po0f> __lonewolf: Actually, if I was using a 64-bit box, I'd use gentoo.
[07:52] <pepe> intuitivenipple: i almost found what is my problem. i need to call update-java-alternatives and give the path to my prefered jdk, but... the script is not installed...
[07:52] <james296> well??
[07:52] <po0f> james296: What's the problem exactly?
[07:52] <james296> plz I need to head for bed I have classs in the morning and I want to solve this problem
[07:52] <__lonewolf> po0f: I did a Stage 2 install. Gentoo was faster than Debian (pure)
[07:53] <james296> I dont know I just get an error message at boot up that says it faled to execute HAL device or whatever
[07:53] <james296> I dunno why
[07:53] <VMT2007> ooh, 2.6.20
[07:53] <james296> maybe because I enabled NIC support
[07:53] <veronica> kalifornia909: it should be could always use gnome baker
[07:53] <po0f> james296: How did you enable 'NIC support'?
[07:53] <__lonewolf> ifup eth0?
[07:53] <james296> I used that custom installer from the unofficial Ubuntu guide
[07:54] <__lonewolf> ifdown eth0 I mean
[07:54] <kalifornia909> i love automatix
[07:54] <james296> it wasnt automatix lol
[07:54] <po0f> kalifornia909: You're playing Russian roulette with your install.
[07:54] <Mackasha> hello
[07:55] <james296> its called install.sh
[07:55] <arrenlex> !hi
[07:55] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:55] <Mackasha> anyone here?
[07:55] <n2diy_> !Hi
[07:55] <arrenlex> Mackasha: There are 843 people here right now. :)
[07:55] <veronica> SyncopatedFool: any luck there?
[07:55] <__lonewolf> Mackasha: Everyone is high on caffeine right now
[07:55] <koyo001> i need to write a file
[07:55] <veronica> hi Mackasha
[07:55] <james296> so can someone help??
[07:55] <koyo001> dont know how to do it
[07:55] <Flannel> koyo001: what do you mean?
[07:55] <__lonewolf> koyo001: Use nano <filename>
[07:56] <timfrost> koyo001: what kind of file?
[07:56] <po0f> james296: There are a lot of install.sh scripts out there, you'll have to be more specific.  :)
[07:56] <manchicken> Hey folks.  Are there any games similar to the popular "The Sims" games that you all know of?
[07:56] <james296> ok opoof
[07:56] <james296> poof*
[07:56] <james296> hold on
[07:56] <xtknight> anyone ever use kernel 1.0? does it work with ubuntu? ;)
[07:56] <drivingmenuts> is there howto install guide beryl for n
[07:56] <Flannel> !beryl | drivingmenuts
[07:56] <ubotu> drivingmenuts: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:57] <koyo001> __lonewolf:  "/etc/network/interfaces"
[07:57] <manchicken> mmm... beryl....
[07:57] <Flannel> drivingmenuts: in the topic of #ubunu-xgl, there should be links
[07:57] <james296> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[07:57] <james296> there poof
[07:57] <manchicken> Beryl is turning out to be quite neat.
[07:57] <james296>  Another script to install additional programs
[07:57] <__lonewolf> koyo001: Yes
[07:57] <koyo001> __lonewolf: dont know how to write in a file
[07:57] <james296> wget http://www.iki.fi/kuparine/comp/ubuntu/install.sh
[07:58] <__lonewolf> koyo001: Try this: nano -w /etc/network/interfaces
[07:58] <Flannel> koyo001: what problems are you running into?  it's read only? or do you not know how to open it? or what?
[07:58] <__lonewolf> koyo001: if it is read-only, maybe you should put a sudo before it
[07:58] <__lonewolf> koyo001: sudo nano -w /etc/network/interfaces
[07:58] <koyo001> did that
[07:58] <pepe> anyone knows how to install update-java-alternatives script?
[07:58] <computer13137> Hello
[07:58] <veronica> hello
[07:58] <deckard> hello
[07:59] <n2diy_> hi
[07:59] <computer13137> Can someone tell me how to upgrade Ubuntu Breezy to Edgy using the install CD?  I read a few things on google that didn't work.
[07:59] <somerville32> hi
[07:59] <koyo001> __lonewolf: humm will try that
[07:59] <__lonewolf> koyo001: and then Ctrl+O (letter O for orange) and Ctrl +X to save it
[07:59] <Flannel> computer13137: you'll need to go breezy > dapper > edgy
[07:59] <cafuego_> pepe: There is no such script is there? You're supposed to run 'sudo update-alternatives --config java'
[07:59] <deckard> wow ndiswrapper works really good now
[07:59] <james296> well?
[07:59] <computer13137> Flannel: well how do I upgrade to Dapper using wget?
[07:59] <Flannel> computer13137: but, with the Alternate CD, you can use apt-cdrom to add the CD, then upgrade from that
[07:59] <Flannel> computer13137: wget? that's.... ugly.  apt-get you mean?
[08:00] <computer13137> Apt-get I'm sorry
[08:00] <computer13137> lol
[08:00] <Flannel> !upgrade | computer13137
[08:00] <ubotu> computer13137: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:00] <__lonewolf> lol
[08:00] <deckard> computer13137, apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:00] <Flannel> computer13137: there'll be instructions there, you'll want the "command line" instructions, obviously.
[08:00] <pepe> cafuego: yes, that's what i will try.. but i read otherwise here... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201378  and here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_JRE_v5.0_Update_10
[08:00] <koyo001> __lonewolf: thanks seem to have worked now just need to rewrite it
[08:00] <computer13137> It... didn't do anything.
[08:00] <__lonewolf> koyo001: Kewl
[08:00] <computer13137> Says 0 upgraded.
[08:00] <pepe> cafuego: as they say , there ought to be such a script.. but thnaks, i'll try yours right now
[08:00] <Flannel> computer13137: read that link, the one ubotu gave you
[08:00] <computer13137> Ah OK
[08:01] <Q_Continuum> Azureus is broken out of the box.  Installed, also have the Java 5.0 runtime installed.  Start it up, it triggers the new user wizard, and closes immediately.  If I sudo start it, it doesn't kill.
[08:01] <deckard> anyone using open vpn to connect to cisco concentrator 3000 ?
[08:01] <drivingmenuts> i have a question
[08:02] <Flannel> Q_Continuum: azureus is not maintained, nor supported by ubuntu, I suggest you ask azureus people about the errors, they'd be much better suited to help you
[08:02] <drivingmenuts> do i have to install nvidia graphic card driver before installing eyecandies>?
[08:02] <veronica> drivingmenuts: ask it
[08:02] <po0f> drivingmenuts: Beryl?
[08:02] <drivingmenuts> yeah stuff like that
[08:02] <drivingmenuts> xfl
[08:02] <drivingmenuts> xgl beryl
[08:03] <po0f> drivingmenuts: If you're using Dapper, don't bother.
[08:03] <james296> WELL???
[08:03] <seanj> Stuff llike that makes me wish I'd bought a video card that DRI supports instead of damn Nvidia
[08:03] <Flannel> !repeat | james296
[08:03] <ubotu> james296: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:03] <seanj> james296: patience please... these people are super busy if you watch
[08:03] <n2diy_> !patience
[08:03] <drivingmenuts> hey poof
[08:03] <po0f> seanj: I had no problems running it.
[08:03] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:03] <drivingmenuts> poff what u mean?
[08:03] <drivingmenuts> dapper doesn't work with beryl?
[08:03] <drivingmenuts> beryl doesn't work on dapper?
[08:03] <__lonewolf> !beryl
[08:03] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:03] <seanj> Yeah I'm wondering too
[08:03] <po0f> drivingmenuts: It does, but you have to run Xgl ontop of X.
[08:04] <drivingmenuts> ok
[08:04] <drivingmenuts> im upgrading to dgy now
[08:04] <po0f> drivingmenuts: Edgy has built-in AIGLX, no hacks required.  :)
[08:04] <deckard> beryl + AIGLX +ATI = works great
[08:04] <drivingmenuts> hey poof
[08:04] <drivingmenuts> ok so with edgy
[08:04] <deckard> yeah use edgy
[08:04] <drivingmenuts> do i need to install nvidia driver?
[08:05] <po0f> drivingmenuts: You'll have to install drivers outside of the official repos.
[08:05] <Flannel> james296: we don't have any idea what the script does, (I'm still looking for it on ubuntuguide), the Wiki (help.ubuntu.com) is generally a better, safer to look for stuff, in the future.  So, which script did you use? what was the point of it?
[08:05] <drivingmenuts> poof
[08:05] <drivingmenuts> i have no idea what u are saying
[08:06] <po0f> Flannel: Ctrl-F, search for install.sh.  Looks to be some sort of Automatix clone.
[08:06] <seanj> manchicken: I agree. Long wait I imagine
[08:06] <james296> Im not sure I gave you the link to it though
[08:06] <drivingmenuts> hey poof
[08:06] <james296> and it just adds extras in it I guess
[08:06] <drivingmenuts> do u have msn?
[08:06] <drivingmenuts> msn messenger?
[08:06] <po0f> drivingmenuts: I don't IM, and I rarely IRC.  :)
[08:06] <seanj> It's best to ask in the channel so anyone else with the same problem can benefit
[08:06] <manchicken> seanj: Not if we get a good team of hackers together in secret to reverse-engineer drivers.
[08:07] <seanj> manchicken: I'm sure that's already happening :)
[08:07] <drivingmenuts> god
[08:07] <seanj> I'm not a coder, otherwise I'd help
[08:07] <drivingmenuts> linux is so hard
[08:07] <drivingmenuts> imma gonna give up
[08:07] <Flannel> james296: right, generally those sorts of scripts are dangerous.  Automatix, for example, breaks stuff beyond repair.  It's literally less hassle to reinstall your system then to attempt to back out of what it's done.
[08:07] <n2diy_> )
[08:07] <crimsun> it's called "noveau"
[08:07] <drivingmenuts> god driving me nuts
[08:07] <seanj> So is Windows, at first
[08:07] <pepe> cafuego: the way you indicated me works partially. it does not update everything. :s still looking for the update-java-alternatives install
[08:07] <Menisk> Do either dapper or edgy support d-link cards with the Ralink chipset?
[08:08] <Menisk> Belkin sorry*
[08:08] <po0f> drivingmenuts: Search the forums.  I believe someone has a repo set up with beta NVIDIA drivers available.
[08:08] <__lonewolf> !nvidia
[08:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:08] <seanj> Nvidia drivers are available by default; apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:08] <nowhere> hi, anyone happens to know if there is a channel for openoffice?
[08:09] <CarCase928> hello, every time i boot ubuntu on my laptop, just before the desktop appears, some strange colors start to appear then changes color, and then the desktop appears, when i move any app window, it's sluggish, do i need to update/install my video card drivers?
[08:09] <drivingmenuts> really?
[08:09] <james296> yes, but I have already reformatted my harddrive alot, and am doin my best not to do that again because I dont want to damage it, and also Im trying to use as little bandwidth usage as possible because my internet provider is allowing me to use a max of 50gb bandwidth
[08:09] <Flannel> james296: now, that doesn't mean your issue requires a reinstall, Do you have errors, or anything like that?
[08:09] <po0f> seanj: Beryl-friendly drivers.  :)
[08:09] <seanj> Ohh I see. Sorry, my mistake
[08:09] <koyo001> having problems with a braodcom
[08:09] <__lonewolf> CarCase928: I have the same problem; I am not sure if its with the framebuffer or the usplash
[08:09] <james296> just a error at boot up that says it is unable to determine my HAL! device or whatever...
[08:09] <koyo001> sorry broadcom
[08:09] <james296> somethin like that
[08:09] <james296> you know what I mean
[08:09] <SyncopatedFool> veronica: disgusting, i can't even get it to do anything at all, nor can i kill the app.
[08:10] <Flannel> nowhere: #OpenOffice, it appears
[08:10] <manchicken> seanj: I hope so.
[08:10] <Menisk> Do either dapper or edgy support belkin WiFi cards using the ralink chipset?
[08:10] <manchicken> seanj: I'm tired of bloody incompatability.
[08:10] <koyo001> i have a instruccion manual
[08:10] <drivingmenuts> i won ndivia geforce go 7300 help with installing driver?
[08:10] <seanj> manchicken: Same. I'm inclined to learn C just to pitch in
[08:10] <seanj> Rather than use non-free software
[08:10] <koyo001> but not really sure what corresponds
[08:10] <veronica> SyncopatedFool: that was the last thing that i could think of.
[08:11] <seanj> nowhere: you might try channel #users.openoffice.org
[08:11] <koyo001> if someone knows anything about this
[08:11] <nowhere> thanks a lot seanj
[08:11] <po0f> drivingmenuts: `sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx`, then run the command afterwards it tells you to.
[08:11] <seanj> No problem :)
[08:11] <CarCase928> __lonewolf: i was experiencing the same problem on mdesktop, but i was able to get the problem fixed, thanks to this chat room but i completely forgot to fix this problem, i have an nvidia GeForce graphics card
[08:12] <CarCase928> __Lonewolf: on my desktop
[08:12] <veronica> SyncopatedFool: i understand the disgust too. i wonder if it is a font issue now that i am thinking about it.
[08:12] <__lonewolf> CarCase928: Thats nice. So is it fixed now?
[08:13] <gerald> is there a way to allow my soundcard to work with more than 1 running program?
[08:13] <drivingmenuts> hey poof
[08:13] <drivingmenuts> so that;s only thing i have to type on the terminal that it will install driever?
[08:13] <chable> mornong
[08:13] <manchicken> seanj: C is the easy part.  Learning how to write 3d drivers is the hard part.
[08:13] <chable> morning* even
[08:13] <seanj> :(
[08:13] <po0f> drivingmenuts: Yes.
[08:14] <manchicken> seanj: I've been hacking C for years now.  I still would have no idea where to begin with hacking a 3d driver.
[08:14] <CarCase928> __lonewolf: this happened sevral weeks ago on my desktop before i bought my laptop, but now i am experiencing this problem on my new laptop, which is built by the same company that made my desktop.
[08:14] <__lonewolf> CarCase928: Oh okay
[08:14] <chable> anyone can tell me why xorg crashes if i install the drivers from nvidia`s website ?
[08:14] <seanj> manchicken: That's a bummer... that also means it would be years before I could contribute, becuase I hardly know C :(
[08:14] <crimsun> C is one of the easiest languages to pick up
[08:14] <seanj> I hope so :)
[08:15] <pk> anyone here use microprocessors?
[08:15] <elkbuntu> and there's more ways to contribute to FLOSS than just coding
[08:15] <n2diy_> seanj: than learn PERL
[08:15] <seanj> PERL looks fun
[08:15] <IntuitiveNipple> is there a way to prevent the pdc202xx module being loaded at boot time on Edgy?
[08:15] <elkbuntu> seanj, what are you good at? being loud, doing art?
[08:15] <po0f> Perl?  Look fun?
[08:15] <__lonewolf> Its Perl, not PERL
[08:16] <chable> lol
[08:16] <drivingmenuts> god damn it
[08:16] <seanj> elkbuntu: I can draw with or without a computer, I talk about GNU/Linux a lot, and I can write docs I'm sure
[08:16] <mneptok> pk: i use macroprocessrs. chicks dig guys with big die size.
[08:16] <drivingmenuts> i just want to use beryl for like 5 minutes
[08:16] <po0f> drivingmenuts: Language.
[08:16] <drivingmenuts> and erase this linux
[08:16] <drivingmenuts> god
[08:16] <n2diy_> whatever. :)
[08:16] <drivingmenuts> linux is so hard
[08:16] <seanj> I'm pretty sure it's PERL
[08:16] <drivingmenuts> driving menuts
[08:16] <manchicken> Perl (not PERL) is fun ^_^
[08:16] <__lonewolf> Perl rules!
[08:16] <pk> mneptok, which one do you use
[08:16] <chable> drivingmenuts, u have driver problems too
[08:16] <chable> ?
[08:16] <po0f> Perl (looks) fun(ny)!
[08:16] <crimsun> oh no, mneptok's got the macroprocessor of DOOM
[08:17] <seanj> lol po0f
[08:17] <elkbuntu> seanj, ok then, there's various ways to help. #ubuntu-docs is the ubuntu doc irc channel
[08:17] <seanj> ok elkbuntu :)
[08:17] <manchicken> (looks funnier 'lisp)
[08:17] <n2diy_> Portable Extraction and Reporting Language.
[08:17] <kel> anyone know which app do I use to view .BIN video files?
[08:17] <CarCase928> __lonewolf: the only difference is, my laptop did not display those strange colors, it was only sluggish when i attempt to move an app window, but that was fixed, it was something to do with updating the nvidia driver, i am attempted to install the nvidia driver for my laptop, but that didn't solved my problem, and i can't use ubuntu until i get this sluggish problem to be fixed and those strange colors to disappearge
[08:17] <seanj> as in PERL. hehe
[08:17] <__lonewolf> * Practical, not Portable
[08:17] <po0f> kel: MPlayer.
[08:17] <CarCase928> __lonewolf: disappear
[08:17] <manchicken> seanj: It's Perl, not PERL ^_^
[08:17] <n2diy_> Whoops
[08:17] <chable> im gonna google
[08:17] <elkbuntu> seanj, and for something arty but non-ubuntu http://openclipart.org/ :)
[08:17] <manchicken> The language is older than that acronym ^_^
[08:17] <CarCase928> __lonewolf: i meant the desktop did not show the colors
[08:17] <__lonewolf> CarCase928: Oh, I know what you mean. That means your nVidia driver is not installed, thats all.
[08:17] <kel> po0f, Mplayer says seek failed
[08:17] <manchicken> Just ask Larry Wall ^_^
[08:18] <po0f> manchicken: It must be that "there's more than one way to do it" philosophy shining through.
[08:18] <seanj> Okay ... you win by sheer volume lol
[08:18] <seanj> I'm outvoted
[08:18] <po0f> :P
[08:18] <Menisk> Is the ralink ra2561 chipset supported in ubuntu 6.10
[08:18] <seanj> Thanks elkbuntu :)
[08:18] <manchicken> seanj: Know any neat free-software games?
[08:18] <mneptok> pk: all of my base instructions are offloaded to the Girlfriend Co-Processor for prioritazation and scheduling ;)
[08:18] <elkbuntu> seanj, no problem, join us in #ubuntu-offtopic some time for non-support discussion :)
[08:18] <seanj> elkbuntu: Aweome, I'll do that
[08:19] <po0f> manchicken: Wesnoth is supposed to be good, I want to try 1.2 actually.
[08:19] <seanj> manchicken: I'm into first-person-shooters like OpenArena and Nexuiz
[08:19] <CarCase928> __lonewolf: i installed the driver from synaptic, but those colors still show, and moving app windows, scrolling web pages....ect are still sluggish
[08:19] <__lonewolf> CarCase928: If thats the only problem, apt-get install nvidia-glx should do. And if it doesn't work out, get the latest drivers from nvidia.com
[08:19] <Bhaskar> how can i do C and java. programming in ubuntu
[08:19] <mneptok> seanj: clothing optional
[08:19] <seanj> manchicken: Unfortunately they both require 3d acceleration
[08:19] <seanj> mneptok: lol
[08:19] <elkbuntu> po0f, if it's any consellation, my brother is addicted to it now, bwaha :)
[08:19] <__lonewolf> CarCase928: Did you restart X after updating the driver?
[08:19] <CarCase928> __lonewolf: no, i didn't, and i don't remember how
[08:20] <__lonewolf> CarCase928: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:20] <koyo001> NEED TO WRITE IN A FILE
[08:20] <__lonewolf> CarCase928: Go to a text  console with Ctrl F1 and run it from there.
[08:20] <po0f> elkbuntu: Guess I'll be AFK compiling it then.  :)
[08:20] <seanj> koyo001: need to turn off caps lock :P
[08:20] <koyo001> DOES SOMEONE KNOW HOW TO DO THIS
[08:20] <DarthLappy> !caps | koyo001
[08:20] <ubotu> koyo001: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:20] <CarCase928> __lonewolf: ok, i'll try it, thanks
[08:21] <__lonewolf> CarCase928: Good luck.
[08:21] <koyo001> dont consider it shouting
[08:21] <CarCase928> __lonewolf thanks
[08:21] <elkbuntu> mneptok, hehe
[08:21] <seanj> koyo001: Almost everybody does
[08:21] <__lonewolf> koyo001 is a newbie
[08:21] <__lonewolf> CarCase928: no probs
[08:21] <Bhaskar> who can suggest me: how can i do C and java. programming in ubuntu
[08:21] <seanj> koyo001: Go to Applications -> Accessories -> Text Editor
[08:21] <koyo001> of course i am a newbie
[08:21] <n2diy_> We're all newbies!
[08:22] <seanj> I'm still a newbie
[08:22] <Kasbahn> Hear hear n2diy_!
[08:22] <po0f> int main(void) {return 0;}
[08:22] <DarthLappy> n2diy_: No we're not!
[08:22] <seanj> or maybe just a pseudonewbie
[08:22] <veronica> psssseudonewbie
[08:22] <elkbuntu> mneptok, um.. try keep this channel family friendly
[08:22] <__lonewolf> I'm a newbie, to Ubuntu
[08:22] <seanj> veronica: lol
[08:22] <drivingmenuts> how do i check kernel version again?
[08:22] <jbroome> uname -a
[08:22] <__lonewolf> uname -r
[08:22] <elkbuntu> __lonewolf, we all were once
[08:22] <po0f> drivingmenuts: uname -r
[08:22] <__lonewolf> elkbuntu: Yes :)
[08:23] <n2diy_> DarthLappy: then you haven't been around long enough, or you've been around to long! :)
[08:23] <veronica> becoming endeared to etch though :)
[08:23] <DarthLappy> n2diy_: I don't think 2 years is either.
[08:23] <mneptok> elkbuntu: sorry, typed "branch" and got cut off. but you can't argue with results >:)
[08:23] <n2diy_> DarthLappy: I'm cooking on 7.
[08:24] <drivingmenuts> hey ppl
[08:24] <DarthLappy> n2diy_: 7'd make me 6 when I started...
[08:24] <drivingmenuts> how do i replace the file from the lib/modules/...
[08:24] <elkbuntu> mneptok, i believe you, really, but millions wouldnt
[08:24] <drivingmenuts> like i donwloaded this file from the website
[08:24] <n2diy_> DarthLappy: Roger on that!
[08:24] <__lonewolf> Finally created my custom kernel, need to reboot. BRB.
[08:25] <po0f> drivingmenuts: If you can't figure out how to do it, I don't suggest manually installing NVIDIA drivers.
[08:25] <drivingmenuts> and i have to replace it from the file i already have on my /lib/module/2.6.17-generic/kernel/driver/net/wireless/
[08:25] <DarthLappy> n2diy_: Anyway, I'm back to lurking for people to comment to/factoid against ^_^
[08:25] <po0f> drivingmenuts: Trust me, I'm saving you a headache later on.
[08:25] <drivingmenuts> poof can u please tell me
[08:25] <veronica> what about easybuntu?
[08:25] <drivingmenuts> poff please tell me
[08:25] <n2diy_> DarthLappy: Roger on that!
[08:25] <__lonewolf> drivingmenuts: Use the cp command
[08:25] <drivingmenuts> ok how -_-;
[08:25] <drivingmenuts> what do i do
[08:25] <po0f> drivingmenuts: I don't have a wireless card.
[08:26] <drivingmenuts> im noob
[08:26] <drivingmenuts> i downloaded this file and it's on my desktop
[08:26] <n2diy_> man cp
[08:26] <drivingmenuts> and i have to change it
[08:26] <drivingmenuts> what do i do after typing cp"?
[08:26] <kraut> moin
[08:27] <DarthLappy> drivingmenuts: cp <from file> <to file> (obviously use the real filenames and lose the brackets)
[08:27] <drivingmenuts> thank you darthlappy
[08:28] <Bhaskar> darthlappy: how can i do C / java programming in ubuntu
[08:28] <po0f> Bhaskar: What's your level of knowledge?
[08:29] <n2diy_> How can I switch between the QWERTY and DVORAK keyboards, at the CLI?
[08:29] <crimsun> n2diy_, setxkbmap
[08:29] <Bhaskar> poOf: i m graduate
[08:29] <po0f> Bhaskar: I meant with programming.
[08:30] <Bhaskar> poOf: medium level
[08:30] <n2diy_> crimsun: what if I'm not running X?
[08:30] <veronica> who uses floppies anymore? just curious......
[08:30] <lupine_85> Bhaskar: kate/vim/gvim with gcc
[08:30] <DarthLappy> veronica: People who need boot disks? :)
[08:30] <lupine_85> :)
[08:30] <po0f> Bhaskar: Install 'build-essential' and start hacking then.
[08:30] <crimsun> n2diy_, setupcon
[08:30] <lupine_85> kdevelop if you want your makefiles autogenerated
[08:30] <drivingmenuts> is there anyway to install nvidia drivers poof?
[08:31] <drivingmenuts> like not manual way?
[08:31] <Bhaskar> poOf: build essential is any software?
[08:31] <po0f> drivingmenuts: Like I said before, `sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx`.
[08:31] <lupine_85> drivingmenuts: how poof is poof?
[08:31] <lupine_85> it's like two commands
[08:31] <n2diy_> crimsun: interesting, will that run from X?
[08:31] <po0f> lupine_85: ?
[08:32] <crimsun> n2diy_, sure
[08:32] <lupine_85> oops
[08:32] <lupine_85> d'oh :D
[08:32] <drivingmenuts> hey poof
[08:32] <drivingmenuts> so it's done?
[08:32] <drivingmenuts> after typing that?
[08:32] <drivingmenuts> so it's done installing driver?
[08:33] <po0f> drivingmenuts: Did it tell you to run a command afterwards?
[08:33] <drivingmenuts> what commands?
[08:33] <drivingmenuts> what's the commands i have to run?
[08:33] <koyo001> i need to edit a file
[08:33] <drivingmenuts> would u please tell me?
[08:33] <computer13137> Hey
[08:33] <koyo001> i am a newbie
[08:33] <po0f> drivingmenuts: Did you read what it said after you typed that 1sudo ...` command in?
[08:33] <computer13137> How do I ask Ubuntu for version information?
[08:33] <computer13137> Like a command?
[08:34] <noiesmo> I'm trying to run Legends and I keep getting an error related to fonts but i have installed lots of fonts anyone had this problem
[08:34] <n2diy_> crimsun: setupcon, command not found, even for sudo.
[08:34] <crimsun> computer13137, version info for what?
[08:34] <drivingmenuts> yes
[08:34] <lupine_85> drivingmenuts: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and edit the resulting file. There's a "section "Device"" with a Driver line that you need to change to use "nvidia"
[08:34] <po0f> computer13137: lsb_release -a
[08:34] <koyo001> i know how to edit it with the text editor
[08:34] <CarCase928> __lonewolf: it didn't work
[08:34] <computer13137> Thanks.
[08:34] <computer13137> bbl
[08:34] <crimsun> n2diy_, lsb_release -r
[08:34] <po0f> drivingmenuts: Did it not tell you to run `nvidia-xconfig` or something
[08:34] <po0f> ?
[08:35] <drivingmenuts> no
[08:35] <n2diy_> crimsun: ?
[08:35] <po0f> drivingmenuts: What does `grep nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf` output?
[08:35] <crimsun> n2diy_, which Ubuntu release are you using?
[08:35] <n2diy_> crimsun: 6.06
[08:35] <veronica> real quick what is the konsole command to reset the root password?
[08:36] <crimsun> n2diy_, setupcon is a binary in the console-setup package only in 6.10 (edgy) and newer
[08:36] <drivingmenuts> it out puts driver nv
[08:36] <lupine_85> veronica: sudo passwd
[08:36] <drivingmenuts> hey poof it out puts driver nv
[08:36] <n2diy_> crimsun: Roger that.
[08:36] <po0f> drivingmenuts: gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:36] <drivingmenuts> Driver nv
[08:36] <po0f> Change the "nv" to "nvidia".
[08:36] <crimsun> n2diy_, for older Ubuntu releases, you need to dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[08:36] <drivingmenuts> Driver "nv"
[08:36] <lupine_85>  drivingmenuts: then sudo sed -i "s/nv/nvidia/" /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:36] <lupine_85> much faster :)
[08:36] <veronica> lupine_85: thanks.
[08:37] <po0f> lupine_85: If it was already nvidia, it would change it to nvidiaidia.  :)
[08:37] <n2diy_> crimsun: Roger that. Atcually I want to set up some kiosks, so this is getting off track.
[08:37] <lupine_85> po0f: but the grep showed that it wasn't :)
[08:38] <po0f> lupine_85: And should it be sed -i -e?
[08:38] <drivingmenuts> it still says nv
[08:38] <drivingmenuts> after what lupine told me
[08:38] <veronica> okay one more question. is there a way if using gnome and installing kde to prevent the kde apps from showing up in the gnome menu and visa versa?
[08:38] <bruenig> drivingmenuts, sudo sed -i 's/nv/nvidia/g' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:39] <drivingmenuts> kk
[08:39] <drivingmenuts> now it says driver nvidia
[08:39] <drivingmenuts> now what do i do
[08:39] <bruenig> usually I would do sudo sed 'expression' -i file, but I guess you can put it before the expression
[08:40] <drivingmenuts> now is that done for nvidia?
[08:40] <deckard> anyone using vpnc
[08:40] <drivingmenuts> hey poof
[08:40] <drivingmenuts> now what do i do?
[08:40] <po0f> drivingmenuts: Ctrl-Alt-backspace to restart X.
[08:41] <drivingmenuts> kk
[08:41] <drivingmenuts> blackscreen
[08:41] <po0f> drivingmenuts: Give it a sec.
[08:41] <drivingmenuts> k
[08:41] <bruenig> drivingmenuts, what does your screen look like?
[08:41] <drivingmenuts> nvidia
[08:41] <drivingmenuts> comes out
[08:41] <po0f> drivingmenuts: Log in screen now?
[08:41] <drivingmenuts> yes
[08:41] <po0f> drivingmenuts: Your done.
[08:41] <drivingmenuts> oh thank you
[08:42] <po0f> You're*
[08:42] <bruenig> oh you're, I was trying to figure out what you were saying
[08:42] <drivingmenuts> thank you poof
[08:42] <po0f> bruenig: It's still a little early, I've only had one cup of coffee.  :)
[08:42] <drivingmenuts> now do i install beryl? xgl?
[08:43] <bruenig> tis 1:42 here
[08:43] <bruenig> !xgl
[08:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:43] <po0f> bruenig: 2:43A here.  ;)
[08:43] <CarCase928> how do i restart the x server?
[08:43] <bruenig> drivingmenuts, by the way, from what I understand beryl is better
[08:43] <bruenig> po0f, so I guess I win
[08:43] <veronica> what opengl version is required?
[08:43] <bruenig> CarCase928, ctrl alt backspace
[08:43] <drivingmenuts> how do i install beryl?
[08:43] <CarCase928> brueing: thanks
[08:44] <po0f> bruenig: If you call being more tired when it's time to go to work winning, then yes.
[08:44] <drivingmenuts> poof
[08:44] <bruenig> although ctrl alt backspace just makes my xubuntu freeze and so does logging out
[08:44] <drivingmenuts> how do i install beryl?
[08:44] <bruenig> work hah
[08:44] <bruenig> still on vacation
[08:44] <po0f> bruenig: Darn, I'm off today as well also.
[08:44] <po0f> bruenig: I was hoping to rub it in your face.  :)
[08:44] <n2diy_> drivingmenuts: apt-get install beryl
[08:45] <java_blues> does anybody know how to competly get rid of java?
[08:45] <stiv2k> can the 64-bit ubuntu liveCD run on my AMD athlon-64x2 laptop?
[08:45] <bruenig> java_blues, how did you install it?
[08:45] <java_blues> I think I have a ton of different versions, and I want to start with a clean slate to try to fix my java blues
[08:45] <veronica> isnt it a national holiday today?
[08:45] <java_blues> well, I have had versions through the resp
[08:45] <po0f> veronica: Not that I know of.
[08:45] <java_blues> and I did a manual install from suns site
[08:46] <veronica> because of fords death and all
[08:46] <java_blues> the resp installs are easy enought to take care of
[08:46] <Oni-Dracula> anyone know how to fix keyboard volume control doing nothing but displaying the on-screen volume bar?
[08:46] <bruenig> java_blues, well here are somethings you can do, sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-bin, sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-jre, sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-plugin, sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-jdk
[08:46] <bruenig> oh
[08:46] <bruenig> manual
[08:46] <bruenig> well those won't do anything then
[08:46] <java_blues> ok
[08:46] <stiv2k> can the 64-bit ubuntu liveCD run on my AMD athlon-64x2 laptop?
[08:46] <bruenig> sudo apt-get remove j2re1.4
[08:47] <bruenig> that is one
[08:47] <bruenig> stickyicky, try it out
[08:47] <po0f> java_blues: Does it not install itself nocely into one directory that you can rm -rf?
[08:47] <bruenig> stiv2k, try it out
[08:47] <veronica> question any way to install kde without the icons mixing in with gnome?
[08:47] <po0f> nicely*
[08:47] <stiv2k> bruenig: it doesn't boot
[08:47] <java_blues> now let me ask one more question, has anybody else had a problem with java applets completly locking up all browsers
[08:47] <java_blues> I have to force quit anytime I goto yahoo games
[08:47] <bruenig> java_blues, no
[08:47] <Azul> do rm -rf /* then you know for sure it is removed
[08:47] <java_blues> now, I did get on earlier
[08:48] <java_blues> but, it may have something to do with having multiple computers on the site at one time, maybe?
[08:48] <bruenig> java_blues, do ls /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/ tell me what the output is
[08:48] <java_blues> k, one sec
[08:48] <koyo001> i just wrote a file
[08:49] <koyo001> and i want to replace an existing one
[08:49] <java_blues> libjavaplugin_oji.so
[08:49] <koyo001> i want to know hoow to do it
[08:49] <po0f> koyo001: What's the name of the file you want to replace?
[08:49] <koyo001> could someone please help me\
[08:49] <bruenig> java_blues, then you have the write plugin it would seem
[08:49] <bruenig> right*
[08:49] <alyssum> i am trying to setup a personal web server for development...  everything is mostly working right now, but i got some issues about setting up permissions and directories in the 'right way' or the conventional way at least.  can anyone point me to an online guide or msg me?
[08:50] <java_blues> i tried viewing that file earlier with "sudo gedit /path/to/file" but it did nothing
[08:50] <koyo001> po0f: interfaces
[08:50] <koyo001> po0f: its in network
[08:50] <Azul> koyo001, what do you mean replace the existing one
[08:50] <po0f> koyo001: What's the full path?
[08:50] <bruenig> java_blues, well it is binary so I would bet so
[08:51] <koyo001> po0f: /etc/network/interfaces
[08:51] <po0f> koyo001: sudo cp -f /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.bak && sudo cp -f <my_file> /etc/network/interfaces
[08:51] <java_blues> hrm
[08:51] <computer13137> Thanks for your help ealier guys
[08:51] <computer13137> :)
[08:51] <java_blues> I just spent 2 1/2 days getting my wireless to work
[08:51] <computer13137> :)
[08:51] <computer13137> bbl
[08:52] <computer13137> G'night to you all
[08:52] <tyme-> ouch.
[08:52] <java_blues> now I am have been on this java issue most of today
[08:52] <CarCase928> how do i disable the x server?
[08:52] <tyme-> it took me 0 seconds to get mine to work :P
[08:52] <java_blues> I just suck at linux I guess
[08:52] <tyme-> I know howit is java_blues, i installed opensuse and spend half a day grinding to get itto work
[08:53] <koyo001> po0f: how do i give it the directory where i saved it??
[08:53] <CarCase928> !xserver
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <tyme-> !xorg
[08:53] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:53] <java_blues> I have tried different browsers, different java versions, opening ports on router
[08:53] <java_blues> I am just lost I guess
[08:53] <po0f> koyo001: Replace <my_file> with the file you saved.  Did you save it to your desktop?
[08:53] <bruenig> fresh install is always an option...
[08:53] <Trixsey> What happened to the Azureus repo for ubuntu (edgy)? It's not working as it should
[08:53] <koyo001> yep
[08:54] <koyo001> po0f: yep
[08:54] <bruenig> Trixsey, what is the repo, give me the deb line
[08:54] <java_blues> bruenig: thought of that, really dont want to do that for the 4th time
[08:54] <po0f> koyo001: Replace <my_file> with ~/Desktop/interfaces then in the above command.
[08:54] <Kuwait> hello everyone
[08:54] <harrisony1> !hi | Kuwait
[08:54] <ubotu> Kuwait: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:54] <java_blues> I had to downgrade to 6.06 to get my wireless to work
[08:54] <n2diy_> !hi
[08:54] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:54] <kanedaddy> hey
[08:55] <Montaro-q8> how ya all doin?
[08:55] <bruenig> java_blues, i must have done it 7 times when I started
[08:55] <java_blues> n2diy_: how are you?
[08:55] <kanedaddy> dunno
[08:55] <java_blues> n2diy_: got my wireless working
[08:55] <n2diy_> java_blues: tired, and you?
[08:55] <koyo001> po0f: will try that and see if it works thanks
[08:55] <n2diy_> java_blues: cooooolll!
[08:55] <Trixsey> bruenig, 2.5.0.0-0bunutu2
[08:55] <harrisony1> Trixsey: mine pastebining your sources.list
[08:55] <java_blues> n2diy_: singing the blues, and not the centennial blues either, haha
[08:55] <Montaro-q8> finally got ubuntu installed!
[08:55] <bruenig> !paste | Tristan
[08:55] <ubotu> Tristan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:55] <harrisony1> Montaro-q8: YAH!
[08:56] <Trixsey> harrisony1, I use the official repos
[08:56] <bruenig> Tristan, /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:56] <harrisony1> ok well thats a package problem
[08:56] <bruenig> Tristan, paste that
[08:56] <java_blues> n2diy_: I downgraded to 6.06 and then went from there, went pretty smooth actually
[08:56] <harrisony1> bruenig: dont you means Trixsey
[08:56] <Trixsey> yes, ok
[08:56] <java_blues> I have gotten pretty familiar with iwconfig, ifconfig, and some basic linux commands
[08:57] <n2diy> java_blues: roger that, happy new years.
[08:57] <bruenig> yeah
[08:57] <java_blues> n2diy: you too, hope this year turns out good for you
[08:57] <bruenig> tab complete is not donig me well
[08:57] <bruenig> doing*
[08:57] <java_blues> I love linux, but sometimes I wonder why I am so into wanting to run it
[08:58] <n2diy> ?
[08:58] <java_blues> before I get too far into the java problem, does anybody know of an app that converts openoffice docs to ms office docs
[08:58] <java_blues> I need to submit my school work in ms office format
[08:58] <bruenig> java_blues, open office can save to .doc
[08:58] <koyo001> po0f: should i put the < before and after the path>
[08:58] <bruenig> java_blues, you just have to tell it to
[08:58] <po0f> koyo001: No.
[08:58] <koyo001> po0f: ok
[08:58] <n2diy> java_blues: open office does that.
[08:58] <po0f> koyo001: That does something else entirely.
[08:59] <java_blues> ok cool
[08:59] <java_blues> thanks guys
[08:59] <Trixsey> bruenig, http://pastebin.ca/300589
[08:59] <java_blues> I guess I am office to banish any trace of java from ubuntu
[08:59] <n2diy> java_blues: save file as:
[08:59] <Trixsey> harrisony1, http://pastebin.ca/300589
[08:59] <michael117> java_blues: If you feel so inclined, you could also use crossover office if you want to run MS Word through wine
[08:59] <bruenig> Tristan, run the following, all of it at once: sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/edgy universe/edgy universe multiverse/g' -e 's/edgy-security universe/edgy-security universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[08:59] <bruenig> Trixsey*
[08:59] <java_blues> michael117: dont have a legal office version
[08:59] <bruenig> Trixsey, that should give you all your repos
[09:00] <koyo001> po0f: thanks seems to have worked
[09:00] <Trixsey> I want to keep my old repos tho
[09:00] <java_blues> michael117: would rather do things atleast half way legal from now on
[09:00] <Trixsey> like the beryl repo I have
[09:00] <java_blues> one reason I am moving to linux
[09:00] <Trixsey> will it remain?
[09:00] <michael117> I myself prefer the Word interface, but I like the stability of open office in linux
[09:00] <bruenig> Trixsey, it does, it only adds repos
[09:00] <bruenig> Trixsey, it doesn't delete any
[09:00] <Trixsey> ok cool
[09:00] <harrisony1> Trixsey: what error does it give when you install it?
[09:00] <java_blues> anybody recommend a specific version of java to run?
[09:00] <Trixsey> it doesn't give errors on install
[09:00] <java_blues> or a jvm
[09:00] <Trixsey> it crashes
[09:01] <Trixsey> but 2.5.0.0 (from sourceforge) doesn't crash
[09:01] <michael117> jr2 something or other
[09:01] <Trixsey> so its a repo error
[09:01] <java_blues> ok guys
[09:01] <harrisony1> Trixsey: so it crashes when you run
[09:01] <n2diy> java_blues: do you really _need_ it?
[09:01] <java_blues> everybody have a good new year, hope to see you around
[09:01] <harrisony1> same to you java_blues
[09:01] <java_blues> n2diy: Yahoo Games. man
[09:01] <michael117> java_blues: doing things legally should be the least of reasons for moving to linux
[09:02] <smithveg> how can i install the microsoft project in ubuntu
[09:02] <java_blues> michael117: I have a lot of reasons, but I really like linux
[09:02] <n2diy> java_blues: Good luck, it broke my system, so I'm not touching it anymore.
[09:02] <Trixsey> bruenig,
[09:02] <java_blues> n2diy: what problems did you have?
[09:02] <harrisony1> smithveg: you mean program to run windows programs
[09:02] <bruenig> Trixsey,
[09:02] <harrisony1> !wine | smithveg
[09:02] <ubotu> smithveg: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:02] <michael117> java_blues: Ahh... don't worry about it
[09:02] <java_blues> n2diy: browser lock ups?
[09:02] <Trixsey> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:02] <Trixsey> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:02] <Trixsey> :(
[09:02] <homer> !easyubuntu
[09:02] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[09:02] <bruenig> Trixsey, close synaptic
[09:02] <Trixsey> ooo
[09:02] <Trixsey> lol
[09:03] <smithveg> wine cannot
[09:03] <apokryphos> Trixsey: pretty self-explanatory. Close anything using dpkg; i.e. syntaptic, adept, apt.
[09:03] <michael117> java_blues: Java is okay to install, just a few more steps. I have it running on my home debian server with azureus going just fine
[09:03] <harrisony1> smithveg: well what do you mean microsoft project
[09:03] <smithveg> harrisony1. i try wine, but i stop the installation..
[09:03] <n2diy> java_blues: Well it wasn't Java, it was the plug ins that killed me, total system crash, I' still re-building.
[09:03] <harrisony1> smithveg: what program
[09:03] <java_blues> michael117: what is azureus?
[09:04] <harrisony1> http://appdb.winehq.org has all the programs that will run under wine
[09:04] <smithveg> harrisony1, i means it prompt me the error, microsoft project is a software use to manage the project schedule
[09:04] <michael117> java_blues: popular bit torrent client
[09:04] <harrisony1> !azureus
[09:04] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[09:04] <Trixsey> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://se.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/se.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)
[09:04] <java_blues> n2diy: I have a problem with the browser locking up anytime there is a java applet on the page
[09:04] <Ha1> Hey all
[09:04] <danny> guys what is the best way to get vga out on a laptop in ubuntu ?
[09:04] <harrisony1> smithveg: try look in http://appdb.winehq.org and search to see if it works if not well try in #winehq
[09:04] <harrisony1> !hi | Ha1
[09:04] <ubotu> Ha1: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:05] <Trixsey> bruenig, this shouldnt be a problem though?
[09:05] <Trixsey> dupe repos?
[09:05] <bruenig> Trixsey, woops, my fault, it shouldn't be a problem, but you can fix this
[09:05] <Ha1> I have recently downloaded both OpenArena and OpenDoom at .tar.gz [Tarball?] 
[09:05] <Ha1> I have no clue as to how I actually get these to the point where I can play then
[09:05] <n2diy> java_blues: I saw you  post that earlier, I don't know the fix?
[09:05] <Ha1> them*
[09:05] <smithveg> #winehq
[09:05] <Trixsey> bruenig, ok how? :)
[09:05] <michael117> java_blues: Well, that's java for you... shitty all the way
[09:05] <Ha1> Does anyone here feel like walking me through doing whatever I need to do?
[09:05] <Trixsey> and sometimes I get "Launching KNotify", what is this?
[09:05] <harrisony1> Ha1: errr lets see
[09:05] <bruenig> Trixsey, do sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.backup /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:05] <java_blues> n2diy: ok, just wish somebody would make a euchre game in flash
[09:05] <harrisony1> Trixsey: you use kde
[09:06] <Trixsey> I use gnome
[09:06] <Trixsey> :P
[09:06] <Trixsey> and it launches on its own, every now and then
[09:06] <harrisony1> well why in the world do you have Knotify as thats a kde program?? hmm
[09:06] <bruenig> Trixsey, then, just do sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[09:06] <java_blues> michael117: I dont have a lot of problems on my windows machine, I still have problems, but it works most of the time anyway
[09:06] <harrisony1> Ha1: have you extracted the tar.gz's
[09:06] <bruenig> Trixsey, I didn't see the multiverse repos you had at the top
[09:06] <Ha1> Not yet. Should I do it now?
[09:07] <Trixsey> hm
[09:07] <Trixsey> ok
[09:07] <bruenig> Trixsey, but do those two commands and all should be well
[09:07] <Trixsey> burepe, but if I do rm I'll loose my old repo right?
[09:07] <Trixsey> I will loose the beryl repo then ? :(
[09:07] <bruenig> Trixsey, no I backed up your sources.list in the first command
[09:07] <harrisony1> Trixsey: then add it again!
[09:07] <bruenig> Tristan, see ls /etc/apt/
[09:07] <Ha1> Harrisony:: I havent, should I do it now?
[09:07] <harrisony1> Ha1: yes please and just remeber to say my name as well!
[09:07] <bruenig> Tristan, there shuld be /etc/apt/sources.list.backup which was exactly how you had it before that other command
[09:08] <Trixsey> yeah but I still have to move some repos over manually?
[09:08] <Trixsey> from backup to new file?
[09:08] <michael117> I'm planning to do a backup of my Ubuntu system and would like back up program settings, system settings, etc so that once I reformat my partition to take up the entire disk, I want it to appear as it does now. Are /etc, /var/local, /home, /usr, all I need to backup?
[09:08] <bruenig> Trixsey, just run those two commands, all your woes will be gone, you will have all your repos plus one that you were missing
[09:09] <Trixsey> ok, done
[09:09] <michael117> java_blues: Generally when you work with java virtual machine on any OS you are going to have little kinks here and there
[09:09] <fowlduck> jvm is evil
[09:09] <michael117> word
[09:09] <fowlduck> but on its way to being good
[09:09] <harrisony1> its becoming open source
[09:09] <michael117> like hell itis
[09:09] <bruenig> Trixsey, ok, so no errors is good. I had accidentally added the multiverse repo when you already had it, but you didn't have the universe repo so now you do
[09:09] <fowlduck> i mean, as long as sun allows code contributions and input from the community
[09:09] <bruenig> !info azureus
[09:09] <ubotu> azureus: BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 6922 kB, installed size 7780 kB
[09:09] <michael117> it's still running pre-compiled code through some other shitty software that interprets that... wtf!?
[09:10] <bruenig> and azureus is in universe so that is why you couldn't see it
[09:10] <drivingmenuts> hello
[09:10] <drivingmenuts> is poof still here
[09:10] <drivingmenuts> after install the beryl and
[09:10] <michael117> no
[09:10] <michael117> go away
[09:10] <drivingmenuts> running it
[09:10] <drivingmenuts> my screen gets fucked up
[09:10] <harrisony1> po0f: ping! from drivingmenuts
[09:10] <Trixsey> bruenig, ok thx
[09:10] <michael117> Oh... details?
[09:10] <drivingmenuts> all the graphics are broken
[09:11] <harrisony1> !language | drivingmenuts
[09:11] <ubotu> drivingmenuts: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:11] <drivingmenuts> whole screen became green and stuff
[09:11] <Ha1> Harrisony1:What do I do now?
[09:11] <drivingmenuts> really weird
[09:11] <michael117> drivingmenuts: does it become white?
[09:11] <harrisony1> and drivingmenuts try #ubuntu-xgl all the beryl nerds hang out there
[09:11] <harrisony1> Ha1: do you know if its compiled
[09:12] <michael117> drivingmenuts: check your drivers to be sure you have them from the ATI or nvidia and then check the xorg.conf
[09:12] <drivingmenuts> um
[09:12] <drivingmenuts> my screens are messe dup
[09:12] <drivingmenuts> how can i check?
[09:12] <Ha1> Harrisony: Not a clue, mate. Iam a total newbie.
[09:12] <benrob_> hi all, anyone know how to transfer a photo/video from an ubuntu system into the Media folder on palm? I have gpilot working fine to sync evolution, but dont know if there is a drag-and-drop location I can put media files for transfer.
[09:12] <po0f> drivingmenuts: I just want to note I suggested _not_ installing beryl.
[09:13] <po0f> (Sorry was AFK.)
[09:13] <michael117> drivingmenuts: Be sure to check the output of glxinfo in terminal and it should say direct rendering enabled when you are running in a normal gnome session without beryl/xgl/compiz installed
[09:13] <smithveg> someone guide me to install the microsoft project 2003
[09:13] <po0f> drivingmenuts: How did you start it?
[09:14] <Ha1> Harrisony1:Not a clue mate, Iam a total newbie at this.
[09:14] <drivingmenuts> like the howto said
[09:14] <veronica> question any way to install kde without the icons mixing in with gnome?
[09:14] <harrisony1> Ha1: ok
[09:14] <po0f> drivingmenuts: Alt-F2 then `beryl-manager`?
[09:14] <harrisony1> veronica: as in..
[09:14] <Ha1> Harrisony1:Thanks for this, by the way
[09:14] <Trixsey> Sometimes I get "Launching KNotify", what is this? First of all I run gnome, second it's odd that the program starts running on its own!
[09:14] <drivingmenuts> yes
[09:14] <drivingmenuts> beryl manager
[09:14] <drivingmenuts> !beryl
[09:14] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:14] <michael117> drivingmenuts: If you want to get any decent help, you have to be more descriptive of your problems rather than just saying "screen messed up" or "how it said to"
[09:14] <harrisony1> Ha1: mind talking a screenie of some of the folders and put on http://imageshack.us
[09:15] <xipietotec> Trixsey: if you have a program that uses knotify and it crashes or encounters a bug, it will launch knotify
[09:15] <drivingmenuts> like as soon as runniong the beryl
[09:15] <veronica> harrisony1: Everytime i use gnome and install a kde app like koffice it mixes up the icons. kde stuff shows up in gnome menu. that kind of thing.
[09:15] <drivingmenuts> my screen all becomes green
[09:15] <po0f> drivingmenuts: Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to a vitrual console, log in then run: killall -9 beryl-manager && metacity &
[09:15] <drivingmenuts> and all the graphics are broken
[09:15] <Ha1> Harrisony1: Ok
[09:16] <CarCase928> i am having trouble with the nvidia GeForce 6200 graphics card, i am running a laptop, i tried installing all available linux restricted modules for my nvidia card, i tried the lagact drivers first, that didn't work, so i tried the drivers for newer cards, and that didn't work, is there a way to fix my problem?
[09:16] <michael117> drivingmenuts: Do you specifically remember installing the drivers for your video card?
[09:16] <harrisony1> veronica: well that happens and kde programs use kde icons and kde and gnome acess the same menu all i can reccomend is have one partition /home one kubuntu and one ubuntu
[09:16] <drivingmenuts> ues
[09:16] <drivingmenuts> yes
[09:16] <benrob_> hi all, anyone know how to transfer a photo/video from an ubuntu system into the Media folder on palm? I have gpilot working fine to sync evolution, but dont know if there is a drag-and-drop location I can put media files for transfer.
[09:16] <drivingmenuts> and mine says it can render 3d graphics
[09:16] <harrisony1> CarCase928: can you be more descriptive like the screen shows a evil monkey dancing or its pink
[09:16] <po0f> CarCase928: The regular drivers (nvidia-glx) should work for that card, what's the problem?
[09:16] <veronica> harrisony1: let me guess you need all the kde crap fpr koffice right?
[09:17] <CarCase928> po0f: it's sluggish when i move an app window, scroll through web pages.....ect, and strange colors show up just before the desktop loads when i boot ubuntu
[09:17] <nuke> .
[09:17] <Trixsey> Azureus fromt he repos is still broken :P
[09:18] <harrisony1> veronica: no just go sudo apt-get install koffice and it will install the kde librarys but not the whole kde
[09:18] <harrisony1> Trixsey: maybe the problem is the JRE or the package it self
[09:18] <Trixsey> no
[09:18] <Trixsey> when I download Azureus from the homepage it works just fine
[09:19] <Trixsey> when I download from repos it fucks up
[09:19] <drivingmenuts> hello
[09:19] <veronica> harrisony1: i only use 2 kde programs anyway. koffice and kopete. im just getting the idea it will try to install the whole thing
[09:19] <harrisony1> !hi
[09:19] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:19] <drivingmenuts> poof
[09:19] <drivingmenuts> can u help me
[09:19] <drivingmenuts> reinstall the driver
[09:19] <harrisony1> dont ask to ask!
[09:19] <drivingmenuts> i think driver is messed up
[09:19] <Trixsey> which driver? lol
[09:19] <po0f> drivingmenuts: Did you run the command I posted?
[09:19] <harrisony1> be more descriptibe
[09:19] <drivingmenuts> graphic driver
[09:19] <Trixsey> drivingmenuts, card?
[09:19] <CarCase928> po0f and/po0f: it's sluggish when i move an app window, scroll through web pages.....ect, and strange colors show up just before the desktop loads when i boot ubuntuor harrisony1:
[09:19] <CarCase928> poof and/or harrisony1
[09:19] <drivingmenuts> geforce go 7300
[09:20] <harrisony1> !nvidia
[09:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:20] <SurfnKid> !libmp3lame.so
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libmp3lame.so - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <harrisony1> tried them ^^
[09:20] <harrisony1> !lame | SurfnKid
[09:20] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[09:20] <veronica> next where in gnome will it tell me what my video card is?
[09:20] <SurfnKid> ahh
[09:20] <benrob_> anyone know how to transfer picture files to palm using gpilotd?
[09:20] <SurfnKid> thx
[09:20] <drivingmenuts> hey
[09:20] <harrisony1> benrob_: is there a sync folder?
[09:20] <drivingmenuts> poof
[09:20] <drivingmenuts> the command u told me
[09:21] <drivingmenuts> ctrl F11 thing
[09:21] <Ha2> Harrisony1: http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oascreenieen0.png - screenshot
[09:21] <harrisony1> drivingmenuts: its po0f, lol
[09:21] <drivingmenuts> just made my screen blank
[09:21] <veronica> harrisony1: will try apt get and see if it works thanks
[09:21] <K^Holtz> im having an issue when i try to run Software Updates
[09:21] <drivingmenuts> my screen is black and can't do anything to it
[09:21] <CarCase928> harrisony1: i tried what ubotu said, that didn't work
[09:21] <benrob_> harrisony1: not that i can find... it syncs fine with evolution though.
[09:21] <K^Holtz> i think my repositories are wrong.. cuz its saying Cannot Download from blahblah
[09:21] <harrisony1> K^Holtz: can you post the full error
[09:22] <K^Holtz> ttp://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/edgy/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[09:22] <harrisony1> benrob_: sorry bro i dont have a palm
[09:22] <K^Holtz> harrisony1: thats one of the repositories it wont download from
[09:22] <harrisony1> !plf | K^Holtz
[09:22] <ubotu> K^Holtz: PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[09:22] <bruenig> how do I check a files size from command line
[09:22] <benrob_>  harrisony1: :(
[09:22] <michael117> du
[09:22] <harrisony1> K^Holtz: go to the 2nd site
[09:22] <drivingmenuts> hey poof
[09:22] <Ha2> Harrisony1: http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oascreenieen0.png - screenshot
[09:22] <drivingmenuts> ur virtual machine think just made my screen black
[09:22] <drivingmenuts> and it's blank
[09:22] <harrisony1> drivingmenuts: its po0f when you say his name in full it makes a sound
[09:23] <K^Holtz> harrisony1: thats not the only one.. theres also: http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/edgy/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[09:23] <harrisony1> like HARRISONY1 dosent make a sound but harrisony1 does!
[09:23] <drivingmenuts> can anyone help me with
[09:23] <drivingmenuts> graphic driver?
[09:23] <harrisony1> drivingmenuts: try #ubuntu-xgl
[09:23] <drivingmenuts> graphic driver geforce go 7300?
[09:23] <michael117> bruenig: du shows how much folders and files are taking up and I forgot what the option was for ls to do the same, but you can just put in man ls and find it
[09:23] <harrisony1> and K^Holtz 1 moment!
[09:23] <drivingmenuts> noone is there man
[09:23] <veronica> how can i find out what my video card is in gnome please?
[09:23] <drivingmenuts> noone is answer
[09:23] <drivingmenuts> noone is even talking
[09:23] <K^Holtz> AND http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/edgy/free/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found AND http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/edgy/non-free/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[09:23] <harrisony1> drivingmenuts: try the forums
[09:23] <po0f> drivingmenuts: Are you still in the terminal?
[09:23] <drivingmenuts> yes
[09:23] <K^Holtz> np harrisony1
[09:24] <drivingmenuts> i just restarted my computer
[09:24] <po0f> drivingmenuts: DISPLAY=:0 metacity &
[09:24] <Ha2> Harrisony1: http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oascreenieen0.png - screenshot [I am ha1, internet issues] 
[09:24] <po0f> drivingmenuts: Or `DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace &`
[09:24] <harrisony1> Ha2: Ha1 try run i0quake3.i386
[09:24] <drivingmenuts> ok
[09:25] <drivingmenuts> i restarted the computer so beryl is not running
[09:25] <po0f> drivingmenuts: If you already rebooted your computer you shouldn't have to run those commands.
[09:25] <drivingmenuts> yeah
[09:25] <drivingmenuts> but when i run beryl
[09:25] <drivingmenuts> my screen turns green
[09:25] <drivingmenuts> and all the graphics are broken up
[09:25] <po0f> drivingmenuts: The driver from the repos won't work with Beryl, you'll have to use the beta drivers.
[09:25] <harrisony1> K^Holtz: replace packages.free... with deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free and deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free
[09:25] <Ha2> Harrisony1: My screen dhows a small OpenArena windows, then goes black, [like its working] , and then it just goes back to norma;
[09:26] <drivingmenuts> how do i use the beta drivers
[09:26] <harrisony1> try run it in terminal and see what errors it spits out
[09:26] <Ha2> How do I do that?
[09:26] <K^Holtz> harrisony1: im not sure how to do that
[09:27] <K^Holtz> im gonna check the guide
[09:27] <harrisony1> K^Holtz: see my personal message
[09:27] <bruenig> michael117, thanks, ls -lh will do it
[09:27] <drivingmenuts> how do i install the nvidia drivers that work for beryl?
[09:28] <Commander-Crowe> doviende, thanks for your help earlier
[09:28] <po0f> drivingmenuts: http://albertomilone.com/driver.html for beta drivers.  I haven't used this method so I can't comment if it works or not.
[09:28] <CarCase928> i am getting and i am about to uninstall ubuntu if i don't get any real help, so far, i am going around and around in circles, going nowhere, i apologize if i am acting rude and acting like a parrot, but it's late, and i really want this problem fixed, my problem is that it refreshes very slow when i move an app window, scroll through web pages, and so on, and strange colors show up just before the desktop loads every time
[09:28] <CarCase928>  i boot up ubuntu.
[09:28] <CarCase928> i am getting angry
[09:28] <bruenig> !attitude
[09:28] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:28] <Commander-Crowe> doviende, but I can't seem to find the broadcom 4306 driver anywhere online and dell doesn't have it on there site
[09:28] <po0f> CarCase928: Are you running widescreen or anything weird?
[09:28] <Ha2> Harrisony1: My screen shows a small OpenArena window, then goes black, [like its working] , and then it just goes back to normal
[09:28] <veronica> isnt broadcom 43xx support built in?
[09:29] <CarCase928> po0f: i believe it's a wide screen, but i am not sure
[09:29] <benrob_> anyone know how to transfer picture files to palm using gpilotd?
[09:29] <po0f> CarCase928: What's the resolution? 1400x900?  1680x1050?
[09:30] <Ha2> Harrisony1: My screen shows a small OpenArena window, then goes black, [like its working] , and then it just goes back to normal
[09:30] <Trixsey> My volume control in Ubuntu is not working, I'm getting "Failed to start Volume Control: Failed to execute child process "gnome-volume-control" (No such file or directory)"
[09:30] <Trixsey> Any ideas on how to fix?
[09:30] <chable> finally
[09:30] <CarCase928> po0f: not sure, but maybe it's 1024x800, but it could be 1400/900, but i have no idea
[09:31] <po0f> Trixsey: Run `which gnome-volume-control` from the terminal.
[09:31] <matti> Morning!
[09:31] <Trixsey> po0f, I got nothing
[09:31] <Trixsey> no reply from that command :(
[09:31] <po0f> CarCase928: Can you change it to a 4:3 resolution?  (1024x768)
[09:31] <Ha2> Harrisony1: My screen shows a small OpenArena window, then goes black, [like its working] , and then it just goes back to normal
[09:31] <CarCase928> po0f: i don't know how
[09:32] <gunavara> hey everybodi, can someone tell me how to make visible the nicknames in   xchat-gnom, cause i don't see them :( ?
[09:32] <po0f> Trixsey: Try reinstalling gnome-media.
[09:32] <chable> how do i install httpd on ubuntu desktop ?
[09:32] <Ha2> Harrisony1: My screen shows a small OpenArena window, then goes black, [like its working] , and then it just goes back to normal
[09:32] <harrisony1> Ha2:  1 moment
[09:32] <CarCase928> po0f: all i know is, it's a 16:9
[09:32] <harrisony1> !apache | chable
[09:32] <ubotu> chable: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:32] <Trixsey> po0f, I don't want all of those programs included in the package :(
[09:32] <veronica> yay Damp
[09:33] <chable> uhm
[09:33] <po0f> Trixsey: No other package contains gnome-media, sorry.
[09:33] <po0f> s/gnome-media/gnome-volume-control/
[09:33] <chable> cheers harrisony1
[09:34] <chable> same procedure for edgy too ?
[09:34] <harrisony1> ye
[09:34] <CarCase928> po0f: i thought it was a 16:9, and it looks like it, but it's actually a 4:3
[09:34] <po0f> CarCase928: System->Preferences->Screen Resolution
[09:34] <chable> ok
[09:35] <benrob_> does anyone know how to transfer picture files to palm using gpilotd?
[09:35] <Ha2> Harrisony1: My screen shows a small OpenArena window, then goes black, [like its working] , and then it just goes back to normal
[09:35] <CarCase928> po0f: how come i can't change the refresh rate to beyond 0hz?
[09:35] <harrisony1> Ha2: ok lets see open terminal and type/copy paste " ./OA/ioquake3.i386" without the quotes
[09:35] <po0f> CarCase928: 0Hz?
[09:35] <po0f> CarCase928: Do you mean 60?
[09:35] <harrisony1> and Ha2 sorry i had to do something quickly
[09:35] <CarCase928> po0f: there is no option to change it to 60, only "0"
[09:36] <harrisony1> drivingmenuts: so you are tryung to install beryl
[09:36] <po0f> CarCase928: Can you pastebin xorg.conf?
[09:36] <CarCase928> po0f: i'll try
[09:36] <veronica> god updating takes forever
[09:36] <CarCase928> po0f: do i need sudo to pastebin xorg.conf?
[09:37] <Admiral_Chicago> no just visit this site
[09:37] <harrisony1> veronica: you on dial up or
[09:37] <chable> veronica whats your bw ?
[09:37] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste | CarCase928
[09:37] <ubotu> CarCase928: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:37] <po0f> CarCase928: You don't need sudo to read xorg.conf.
[09:37] <chable> Fetched 1282kB in 1s (805kB/s)
[09:37] <chable> :)
[09:37] <Ha2> Harrisony: ...WARNING: could not set the given mode (3)
[09:37] <Ha2> ----- CL_Shutdown -----
[09:37] <Ha2> RE_Shutdown( 1 )
[09:37] <Ha2> -----------------------
[09:37] <Ha2> Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[09:37] <SurfnKid> can any1 help compile lame?
[09:37] <chable> i love speed
[09:38] <harrisony1> SurfnKid: why compile lame
[09:38] <harrisony1> !copmiling | SurfnKid
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about copmiling - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <bruenig> ha
[09:38] <bruenig> !compile
[09:38] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:38] <harrisony1> yeah!
[09:38] <CarCase928> po0f: where do i find pastebin.conf?
[09:38] <[miles] > morning #ubuntu , guys is there a channel dedicated to ubuntu server?
[09:38] <bruenig> !paste
[09:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:38] <SurfnKid> harrisony1, well i got lame installed, but i have to compile libmp3lame.so
[09:39] <bruenig> compiling an so
[09:39] <po0f> CarCase928: In a web browser, goto pastebin.ca and just paste in your xorg.conf.
[09:39] <SurfnKid> how do i know if the compiler is installed
[09:39] <veronica> im on broadband just running multi applications at the same time. that could be the trouble yes?
[09:39] <harrisony1> .so dont need to be compiled??
[09:39] <SurfnKid> bruenig, yep
[09:39] <po0f> SurfnKid: gcc -v
[09:39] <CarCase928> po0f: i meant where do i find xorg.conf?
[09:39] <bruenig> SurfnKid, noyou do not compile .so
[09:39] <harrisony1> at least i have never but always installing drivers
[09:39] <bruenig> no you*
[09:39] <po0f> CarCase928: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:39] <bruenig> those are binary, those are done, there is no compiling them
[09:39] <SurfnKid> right
[09:40] <SurfnKid> how does one get libmp3lame.so then
[09:40] <SurfnKid> by installing lame?
[09:40] <bruenig> !restricted
[09:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:40] <harrisony1> !lame
[09:40] <po0f> bruenig: How would I turn all these .c files into an .so then?  :P
[09:40] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[09:40] <bruenig> SurfnKid, pretty much just install lame
[09:40] <SurfnKid> I did
[09:40] <harrisony1> po0f: ./configure && make
[09:40] <harrisony1> SurfnKid: then it should be in (1 sec
[09:40] <SurfnKid> let me check the restricted media section
[09:41] <po0f> harrisony1: Was being sarcastic.  :)
[09:41] <bruenig> lol
[09:41] <bruenig> wow
[09:41] <cens0red> hey what package contains wx-config ?
[09:41] <harrisony1> po0f: thought you looked a bit to advance
[09:41] <po0f> cens0red: wx-2.6-dev?
[09:42] <cens0red> po0f thanks.
[09:42] <veronica> this may be an out of topic question but anyone know if vmware can run composites?
[09:42] <po0f> cens0red: That's wrong, hold on.
[09:42] <CarCase928> po0f: i am getting confused, what do i need to do with the xorg.conf?
[09:42] <po0f> CarCase928: Paste it on that site.
[09:42] <po0f> CarCase928: So we all can see it to see if something's wrong with it.
[09:43] <chable> im dancin
[09:43] <harrisony1> SurfnKid: lame is installed in /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0
[09:43] <chull> if i wanted to find software for different things.. a supermarket of things to download to try which will run on ubuntu.. where would i go?
[09:43] <CarCase928> po0f: i forgot what the site is, can you tell me the site?
[09:43] <po0f> pastebin.ca
[09:43] <CarCase928> thanks
[09:43] <bruenig> !pastebin
[09:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:43] <bruenig> paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:43] <harrisony1> !synaptic | chull
[09:43] <ubotu> chull: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:43] <SurfnKid> harrisony1, ah! found it
[09:43] <SurfnKid> thx
[09:44] <harrisony1> !packages | chull
[09:44] <ubotu> chull: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[09:44] <harrisony1> chull: that url there
[09:44] <SurfnKid> harrisony1, thing was, in Synaptic it didnt say it installed it there, but i guess it did
[09:44] <bruenig> less than 20000
[09:44] <harrisony1> lol
[09:44] <slicky> !webcam
[09:44] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:44] <cens0red> po0f ?
[09:44] <chull> harrisony1, ty :)
[09:44] <Binja> dev
[09:44] <harrisony1> yah i got my eyetoy as a webcam working! chull, anytime
[09:45] <harrisony1> Binja: can we help you?
[09:45] <po0f> cens0red: I think it's libwxgtk2.6-dev.
[09:45] <bruenig> wx-common
[09:45] <bruenig> it has wx-config.1.gz
[09:45] <SurfnKid> harrisony1, whats with the 0 at the end. do i remove that?
[09:45] <bruenig> but that looks like a man page
[09:45] <cens0red> po0f thanks. There should be a way of finding out this stuff.
[09:45] <harrisony1> look in that directory if it has a 0 leave if not take the 0 off
[09:45] <Binja> harrisony1: ah, was trying to join the companies local dev channel in the wrong window ;)
[09:45] <cens0red> should be a database of all packaged files somewhere.
[09:45] <CarCase928> po0f: here it is, http://pastebin.ca/300653
[09:46] <po0f> cens0red: Yeah, it's called packages.ubuntu.com, but for some reason it doesn't think wx-config belongs to any package.
[09:46] <fowlduck> http://goodcyber.ytmnd.com/
[09:46] <SurfnKid> ok
[09:46] <po0f> cens0red: I'm assuming it belongs in the library dev package, that would make the most sense.
[09:47] <bruenig> well apt-file search indicates that it is in wx-common
[09:47] <bruenig> but it was listed as a man page
[09:47] <slicky> anyone know if easywebcam supports a panasonic nv-gs-11 dv cam.. using it usb for webcam?
[09:47] <cens0red> po0f cheers. I'll just install everything that has "wx" and "dev" in it.
[09:47] <po0f> cens0red: I guess brute-force works as well.  :)
[09:47] <po0f> cens0red: I would try libwxgtk2.6-dev first though, just to make sure.
[09:48] <po0f> bruenig: I have that command, is there any way I can find out what package installed it on my box?
[09:48] <bruenig> !webcam
[09:48] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:48] <bruenig> po0f, apt-file is install by doing sudo apt-get install apt-file
[09:50] <cens0red> po0f ok installed it. did a "locate wx-config" and got nada.
[09:50] <smithveg> heyhey
[09:51] <smithveg> i have install the planner from synaptic
[09:51] <smithveg> i do want to know is the file is create in planner can be open in ms project?
[09:51] <bruenig> smithveg, what is your original language
[09:52] <CarCase928> !nvidia | carcase928
[09:52] <ubotu> carcase928: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:52] <po0f> cens0red: If you're looking for the location of a command, `which` is better than `locate`.
[09:52] <bruenig> whereis is even better
[09:52] <bruenig> not really
[09:52] <cens0red> po0f yeah thanks. It's in there.
[09:53] <drivingmenuts> um
[09:53] <drivingmenuts> hey poof
[09:53] <drivingmenuts> installing beta driver
[09:53] <drivingmenuts> fixed the graphic
[09:53] <drivingmenuts> problem
[09:53] <drivingmenuts> everything work fine
[09:53] <drivingmenuts> except for the terminal
[09:53] <bruenig> !enter
[09:53] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:53] <hexidigital> !enter
[09:53] <drivingmenuts> when i open terminal it's just white screen
[09:53] <po0f> drivingmenuts: What's wrong with it?
[09:53] <drivingmenuts> terminal is just blank white window
[09:53] <bruenig> drivingmenuts, do alt+f2, then run xterm
[09:55] <po0f> bruenig: That's weird, apt-file doesn't know what package it belongs to either.
[09:55] <bruenig> po0f, what are you talking about
[09:55] <po0f> bruenig: I'm interested in knowing what package `wx-config` comes from.
[09:56] <crimsun> cens0red, libwxgtk2.6-dev doesn't ship wx-config. Debian renamed its equivalent to /usr/lib/wx/config/gtk2-unicode-release-2.6
[09:56] <bruenig> po0f, does it exist at all
[09:56] <drivingmenuts> umm
[09:56] <crimsun> po0f, bruenig, see above.
[09:56] <drivingmenuts> after running the beryl
[09:56] <drivingmenuts> i can't move the windows
[09:56] <po0f> bruenig: wx-config?  I've got right here.
[09:56] <bruenig> then it doesn't
[09:56] <drivingmenuts> does anyone know how to to fix i can't move windows after running berygl
[09:56] <crimsun> we don't ship wx-config
[09:57] <veronica> am i understanding that if i install konq or kopete that kde goes in too?
[09:57] <bruenig> veronica, no, but to install them you need to install their dependencies which includes a lot of kde libs
[09:58] <smithveg> bruenig, hehe... sorry
[09:58] <Sonne> hi
[09:58] <bruenig> smithveg, I only ask because ubuntu has many language specific rooms
[09:58] <Sonne> http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-powerpc.iso
[09:58] <bruenig> !hi | Sonne
[09:58] <ubotu> Sonne: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:58] <Sonne> is this good as a live too?
[09:58] <veronica> bruenig: okay that helps
[09:58] <CoRnJuLiOx> what do i use to open up .rar archives? xarchiver doesn't work
[09:58] <bruenig> Sonne, no that is not live, it is a textual install
[09:59] <Sonne> CoRnJuLiOx, maybe you need to install unrar
[09:59] <smithveg> i meant, can i create a file, in 'planner' then open it in my friends pc who using microsoft project 2003
[09:59] <Sonne> bruenig, so i should use desktop-powerpc.iso?
[09:59] <bruenig> Sonne, this is live http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-powerpc.iso
[09:59] <Sonne> okay
[09:59] <veronica> i think i might get irritated when it installls kde base
[09:59] <bruenig> Sonne, if you want live, you can go textual if you wish, I happen to prefer text
[09:59] <Keeguon> Hey I've just compiled deskbar applet in Edgy but there's no Google Extensions in Preference why?
[09:59] <Sonne> bruenig, all i need is a good live distro
[09:59] <Sonne> possibly running gnome
[10:00] <Sonne> since my ibook has a dead hd
[10:00] <veronica> fedora?
[10:00] <harrisony1> Keeguon: google extension?
[10:00] <Sonne> if you know a live system with even more stuff than ubuntu, tell me :)
[10:00] <harrisony1> sone
[10:00] <bruenig> Sonne, well I am not to sure how many exist for powerpc
[10:00] <Sonne> yeah that's the problem
[10:00] <Keeguon> harrisony1: yes the one who let you search on google with the applet
[10:01] <bruenig> Sonne, linux mint, if you can find that is basically ubuntu with all the codecs and multimedia stuff installed by default, so that might be better
[10:01] <harrisony1> did you get that extension
[10:01] <bruenig> if you are only using it as live cd
[10:01] <Sonne> bruenig, codecs and stuff?
[10:01] <smithveg> bruenig, how ar?...
[10:01] <Sonne> i bet it's for x86 32bit hw...
[10:01] <Sonne> let's check anyway
[10:01] <Sonne> yeah it's just x86
[10:02] <Admiral_Chicago> bruenig & Sonne, mint however gets into issues of legality
[10:02] <paolo> hi all. when a package is marked as x86_64, does it mean that it work ONLY for 64bit cpus, or for 32bit too? thnks
[10:02] <bruenig> Admiral_Chicago, yawn
[10:02] <Admiral_Chicago> paolo: 64 bit
[10:03] <paolo> ok thnks
[10:03] <mcquaid> is there a better editor out there than avidemux?  I just want to do simple cuts from existing video files i have
[10:03] <Sonne> well, not that i usually give a darn about legality issues... :p
[10:03] <Admiral_Chicago> mcquaid: kino ?
[10:04] <bruenig> Sonne, yeah that appears to only be i386
[10:04] <mcquaid> sorry maybe i should be more specific.  I want to chop bits out of various files I have (most being xvid in avi containter, some being mpgs) none are dv source
[10:04] <mcquaid> which I believe kino only supports
[10:04] <Admiral_Chicago> that's really a discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic but meh, I'm going to bed soon and don't have the energy
[10:04] <Admiral_Chicago> goodnight all
[10:08] <spacing_guild> How do I get Open Office and other programs to type in Japanese? I already have the language packs downloaded.
[10:11] <noiesmo> spacing_guild, I used this how to to set up on a friends debian system http://dspnet.fr.eu.org/~lonewolf/LinuxJapan/Howto_English_Japanese.html
[10:14] <goggles> #gnewsense
[10:14] <goggles> oops ;)
[10:18] <isede> i am running kubuntu and it sems that everyhting related to cryptography stopped working - HTTPS in firefox and opera, also SSH. what did i screw up?
[10:19] <rohan> anyone here having acer laptop, please tell me how do i get the acer orbicam workin in (k)ubuntu ?
[10:20] <Li`lEndian> does anyone know how to set kmail to download only the msg headers similar to thunderbird?
[10:22] <spacing_guild> what program do I use to edit sources.list?
[10:22] <po0f> spacing_guild: GEdit.
[10:22] <Jan18> Hello! Someone knows how i can fix this? jan@ubuntu:~$ debian/rules updateconfigs
[10:22] <Jan18> -bash: debian/rules: No such file or directory
[10:22] <po0f> spacing_guild: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:22] <spacing_guild> poof: thanks
[10:23] <fowlduck> Jan18: it doesn't appear that there is a debian/rules file that exists.  Are you doing packaging of some sort?
[10:23] <Jan18> fowlduck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - I try to get 1000HZ (/boot/config-...)
[10:25] <fowlduck> Jan18: can you paste the result of ls -la from your current directory?
[10:25] <Jan18> jan@ubuntu:~$ ls -la
[10:25] <Jan18> total 28
[10:25] <Jan18> drwxr-xr-x 3 jan  jan  4096 2007-01-02 17:36 .
[10:25] <Jan18> drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 2006-12-15 01:17 ..
[10:25] <Jan18> -rw------- 1 jan  jan   251 2007-01-02 17:19 .bash_history
[10:25] <Jan18> -rw-r--r-- 1 jan  jan   220 2006-12-14 06:52 .bash_logout
[10:25] <Jan18> -rw-r--r-- 1 jan  jan   414 2006-12-14 06:52 .bash_profile
[10:25] <Jan18> -rw-r--r-- 1 jan  jan  2227 2006-12-14 06:52 .bashrc
[10:25] <Jan18> drwx------ 2 jan  jan  4096 2007-01-02 17:36 .irssi
[10:26] <fowlduck> Jan18: in the future, try to paste in the pastebin
[10:26] <fowlduck> ack!
[10:26] <linux_user400354> my processor speed should be 2 ghz, but it is only showing as 1 ghz. i did a command to get it to 2 ghz. after i reboot, it is back 1 ghz again. why does that happen?
[10:26] <Jan18> sorry..
[10:26] <fowlduck> linux_user400354: is your processor a dual-core processor?
[10:26] <apokryphos> !paste | Jan18
[10:26] <ubotu> Jan18: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:26] <linux_user400354> fowlduck: yes
[10:26] <po0f> linux_user400354: CPU scaling.  If there's no need to run full-steam it will throttle back.
[10:27] <Alzi2> Hey. With the old version of Bittorrent Ubuntu has, how to configure the port number?
[10:27] <Jan18> fowlduck: Know what i have to do?
[10:27] <linux_user400354> po0f: then my applications dont open as quick?
[10:27] <fowlduck> linux_user400354: it's rather common for dual-core processors especially to throttle back to save power.  it kicks back up to the speed if it needs it, and it is transparent when it does it
[10:27] <po0f> linux_user400354: It will htrottle back up when load gets high.
[10:27] <po0f> throttle*
[10:28] <fowlduck> Jan18: please pastebin the results of ls -la in that directory (pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:28] <linux_user400354> po0f: if i open 65 firefoxes (i have done it before) then will it go back to its max speed on its own?
[10:28] <po0f> linux_user400354: It should.
[10:28] <linux_user400354> po0f: okay, one moment
[10:28] <fowlduck> linux_user400354: if 65 firefoxes are considered a heavy enough load, then yes (I would suspect it is)
[10:29] <spacing_guild> is there someone out there that's configured their computer to type in Japanese that can guide me through the setup?
[10:29] <Alzi2> With the old version of Bittorrent Ubuntu has, how to configure the port number?
[10:29] <Jan18> fowlduck: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/212/plain/
[10:29] <linux_user400354> how many firefoxes is a heavy load for AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
[10:29] <fowlduck> spacing_guild: while i don't have experience with this, if I were to google I would use "ubuntu change keymap japanese" or "ubuntu change keymap"
[10:30] <spacing_guild> fowlduck: thanks, I'll look
[10:30] <fowlduck> linux_user400354: i don't know that anyone can positively identify how many are, but i could be wrong
[10:30] <fowlduck> Jan18: you're trying to run debian/rules but there is no debian directory in your current directory
[10:31] <linux_user400354> 32 firefoxes opened and more
[10:31] <benrob_> does anyone know how to transfer picture files to palm using gpilotd?
[10:31] <po0f> linux_user400354: Just run this from a terminal: `while true; do echo; done` and monitor your CPU speed; it should go up.  Ctrl-C to kill the command.
[10:31] <linux_user400354> po0f: it is already up to 2 ghz now
[10:32] <po0f> linux_user400354: Ok, then no worries.
[10:32] <Alzi2> With the old version of Bittorrent Ubuntu has, how to configure the port number?
[10:32] <linux_user400354> po0f: cpu MHz         : 2000.000
[10:32] <fowlduck> Jan18: looks like you need to navigate to the directory where you extracted or downloaded the kernel source
[10:33] <linux_user400354> po0f: how long will it take to go back down to 1ghz?
[10:33] <linux_user400354> oh, nevermind, that was quick
[10:33] <Forgacius> someone should make an eubuntu! (kinda like kubuntu but enlightenment based lol!)
[10:33] <Forgacius> and a bubuntu, with beryl!
[10:34] <po0f> linux_user400354: It depends on what speed governor you have activated.
[10:34] <fowlduck> linux_user400354: you should look into the various power-saving features of the newer processors if you want to know more
[10:35] <linux_user400354> po0f: if i use the gnome applet "CPU Frequencey Scaling Monitor", I can keep it at 2 ghz all the time
[10:35] <VMT2007> you could govern it to just meet demand
[10:35] <po0f> linux_user400354: I'd let it throttle back at idle.
[10:35] <VMT2007> doesn't centrino do that anyway
[10:35] <fowlduck> linux_user400354: is this a laptop?
[10:36] <Jan18> fowlduck: "locate debian" gives no match..
[10:36] <isede> i am running kubuntu and it sems that everyhting related to cryptography stopped working - HTTPS in firefox and opera, also SSH. what did i screw up?
[10:36] <danage> hi! how can i make the bt-applet appear under edgy? it's invisible by default
[10:36] <VMT2007> isede: OpenSSL perhaps
[10:37] <fowlduck> Jan18: ok, can you pastebin the contents of your current terminal so I can see all that you have done so far with this whole kernel compile?
[10:37] <Forgacius> whats a bt applet?
[10:37] <isede> VMT2007: i reinstaled it and ssh, but nothing have changed
[10:37] <isede> VMT2007: is there anyhting else that can have system-wide effects?
[10:37] <fowlduck> Jan18: also, no offense intended, but if you can't locate the file to run, you may want to reconsider compiling a new kernel until you understand the linux system and command line a little better..
[10:38] <VMT2007> isede: i'd be lying if I said I knew
[10:38] <isede> VMT2007: thanks anyway
[10:38] <danage> Forgacius: the bluetooth applet that comes with the bluez utils
[10:39] <fowlduck> isede: that's really weird btw, that's a new problem to my ears :)
[10:39] <VMT2007> anyone know about linksys befw* routers?
[10:39] <danage> it used to aggravate people, then i saw a bug report called "die, applet, die", and now they did a pretty good job at hiding it
[10:40] <Jan18> fowlduck: I only want to change the HZ from 250 to 1000. Not recompil the kernel.. Thought i could do it with "debian/rules updateconfigs"-command.
[10:40] <isede> fowlduck: i halted the system couple of times, i thought it's safe. could there be anyhting in kernel modules thta got corrupted?
[10:40] <fowlduck> isede: hmm, that should be safe, but i suppose some software could have been messed up.
[10:40] <fowlduck> Jan18: you mean MHz?
[10:40] <isede> fowlduck: what do you think i should reinstall?
[10:41] <CoRnJuLiOx> can someone tell me the proper usage for unrar? i've tried unrar -e -x ARCHIVE.rar & unrar -e -x ARCHIVE.rar /home/mydir/Desktop, but neither work
[10:41] <fowlduck> isede: I'm really not qualified to give that advice, but I can tell you that if I were in your place, I would
[10:41] <po0f> CoRnJuLiOx: Try either -x or -e, not both.
[10:41] <Jan18> fowlduck: No. I mean CONFIG_HZ=1000
[10:42] <jasin> hi
[10:42] <CoRnJuLiOx> po0f: nope, doesn't work :-(
[10:42] <Jan18> In /boot/config-2.6.15-27-686..
[10:42] <fowlduck> Jan18: I don't think I know what you're doing, or that you're aware of the possible and probably ramifications of changing the kernel configuration without knowing precisely what you're doing
[10:44] <CoRnJuLiOx> good grief is there an easier way to get a rar archive open?
[10:44] <fowlduck> Jan18: what makes you think the 250 isn't the proper configuration?
[10:44] <apokryphos> !rar | CoRnJuLiOx
[10:44] <ubotu> CoRnJuLiOx: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[10:44] <jasin> you change the kernel config with make menuconfig not manually
[10:44] <Forgacius> rars are usually easy
[10:45] <fowlduck> howdy again ForgeAus, btw
[10:45] <ForgeAus> ditto fowl :)
[10:46] <jasin> !info unrar-free | coRnJuLiOx
[10:46] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[10:47] <po0f> CoRnJuLiOx: Try it without the -: unrar e file.rar
[10:47] <jasin> that bot is stupid
[10:48] <ForgeAus> is there a file manager or archiver with built-in rar compression for *nix? or do they all require an unrar program separate?
[10:48] <jasin> why would any manually edit the kernel config file?? Good grief
[10:48] <apokryphos> jasin: if you find a problem, please compile a bug report
[10:48] <ForgeAus> jasin, just for the fun of it? lol
[10:48] <imbecile> hey how do i list hidden files/folder in archive manager?
[10:48] <jasin> Forge, lol
[10:48] <jasin> apokry, I will
[10:49] <Jan18> fowlduck: all my other servers with 5.04 (this is 6.x) has 1000 HZ. 250 HZ gives me wrong FPS at counter-strike servers..
[10:49] <apokryphos> !tab | jasin
[10:49] <ubotu> jasin: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[10:49] <jasin> lol
[10:49] <jasin> I know how to do that
[10:49] <ForgeAus> imbicile? in an archive manager? konqueror you can show them the archive manager I guess you'd need to check the preferences/options of the program... I'm not sure the particular one your using will have such an option
[10:49] <apokryphos> jasin: then please do :)
[10:49] <jasin> yes father
[10:49] <jasin> LOL
[10:50] <apokryphos> thanks
[10:50] <imbecile> ForgeAus,  thanks
[10:50] <daviey> Hi, is anybody here using HULA?
[10:50] <jasin> apokryphos, , whatever
[10:50] <jasin> apokryphos,  whatever
[10:51] <jasin> Hula is a wonderful dance
[10:51] <ForgeAus> imbecile and if you need to see if theres a kio-slave around for the archive format your using.. makes things easier (handles the archive like its a folder)
[10:51] <jasin> :)
[10:51] <ForgeAus> another good filemanager/archiver is krusader which does both.. mostly...
[10:51] <danage> hi! how can i make the bluetooth-applet appear under edgy? it's invisible by default
[10:51] <daviey> jasin, helpful
[10:51] <raddim> siemak
[10:51] <ForgeAus> they're just options
[10:51] <raddim> jest kto z polski :D
[10:51] <apokryphos> !pl
[10:51] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:51] <fowlduck> Jan18: ok, well that makes sense, to change your kernel config is something I'm not experienced with on Ubuntu, and I'm afraid you have now stepped outside of my area of expertise, sorry
[10:51] <jasin> apokryphos,  whatever
[10:52] <apokryphos> jasin: please stop repeating.
[10:52] <raddim> POLAND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:52] <jasin> apokryphos,  say what?
[10:52] <n2diy_> !polish
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about polish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <apokryphos> !polish is <alias> pl
[10:52] <ubotu> I'll remember that, apokryphos
[10:52] <apokryphos> jasin: which part of my sentence was confusing?
[10:52] <jasin> apokryphos,  you got pms or something?
[10:52] <po0f> Oh geez.
[10:53] <apokryphos> jasin: no, I got three highlights from you saying "whatever".
[10:53] <koyo001> how do i upgrade the kernel?????
[10:53] <jasin> two is three?
[10:53] <raddim> n2diy where you from ??
[10:53] <fowlduck> jasin: I saw three
[10:53] <jasin> someone needs to go back to kindergarten
[10:53] <jasin> lol
[10:53] <koyo001> does anyone know
[10:53] <jasin> fowlduck, get new glasses
[10:53] <fowlduck> jasin: someone needs to scroll up
[10:53] <n2diy_> raddim: Pa.
[10:53] <raddim> Pa??
[10:54] <n2diy_> raddim: Pa., actually NJ, but now I'm in Pa
[10:54] <raddim> oh lol :)
[10:54] <koyo001> i need to upgrade the kernel
[10:54] <n2diy_> raddim: Why?
[10:54] <koyo001> i downloaded the file
[10:54] <apokryphos> !behaviour | jasin
[10:54] <ubotu> jasin: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:54] <po0f> koyo001: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[10:54] <raddim> who have some programs to connect at ftp ??
[10:55] <imbecile> ForgeAus,  what i'm trying to do is install gkrellm themes
[10:55] <raddim> programs for linux
[10:55] <xevixlaptop> i can't find libbzip2 in ubuntu repositories, but i need it to compile something, and from what i can tell online there should be a package for it, help?  i have bzip2 installed
[10:55] <po0f> koyo001: What file?
[10:55] <koyo001> that does it automatically????
[10:55] <ForgeAus> imbecile what kind of archive format are they?
[10:55] <fowlduck> raddim: gftp is fairly nice.  Nautilus has some functionality for that as well, I believe.
[10:55] <cens0red> anyone had any experience compiling audacity?
[10:55] <n2diy_> raddim: you don't need programs, just use ftp at the CLI
[10:55] <cens0red> I'm trying to make it recognize that I have jackd installed. And it won't.
[10:55] <koyo001> po0f: got kernel 2.6.19.1
[10:56] <jr> hello, where can I find help installing "Xgl/ Compiz"
[10:56] <po0f> cens0red: ./configure --help
[10:56] <crimsun> cens0red, why not use the version in the repository?
[10:56] <danage> hi! how can i make the bluetooth-applet appear under edgy? it's invisible by default
[10:56] <fowlduck> n2diy_: not everyone likes to ftp using the command line
[10:56] <imbecile> ForgeAus,  tar.gz
[10:56] <raddim> n2diy: yes but i need total commander :P
[10:56] <cens0red> crimsun because the one in the repos is obviously compiled without jack support.
[10:56] <fowlduck> n2diy_: however powerful :)
[10:56] <cens0red> po0f the only reference I can find in the help is something called JACK_CFLAGS. Not sure what that means.
[10:57] <ForgeAus> hmmm imbecile um is there a gnome equivalent of kinstall?
[10:57] <n2diy_> fowlduck: that wasn't the question. :)
[10:57] <fowlduck> n2diy_: true :)
[10:57] <po0f> cens0red: There's no '--enable-jack' or '--with-jack=' options?
[10:57] <crimsun> cens0red, you could have asked me to enable it.
[10:57] <jr> hello, where can I find help installing "Xgl/ Compiz"
[10:57] <koyo001> po0f: if i put the command you just put will it upgrade to the latest kernel
[10:57] <imbecile> ForgeAus,  not sure i only have a week of linux experience
[10:57] <apokryphos> jr: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[10:57] <ForgeAus> or you could just type tar --help on the command line?
[10:57] <po0f> koyo001: It will upgrade to the latest kernel in the repos.
[10:57] <cens0red> po0f no. All I know is I have used audicity with jack before .. and when I run the ./configure script it says "searching for jack ... No "
[10:58] <johan^pirate> morning :P
[10:58] <raddim> hey look this site : http://www.czarne-smoki.info/strona%20socu.html
[10:58] <jr> thankyou.
[10:58] <ForgeAus> (in konsole or wahtever terminal program you have)
[10:58] <cens0red> crimsun you compiled the audacity that's in the repos?
[10:58] <mrlegume> hi, i'm having problems installing flashplayer 7 via apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:58] <crimsun> cens0red, just install libjack0.100.0-dev
[10:58] <linlin> anyone know how to shopw the current quota usage for a perticular user from a command line?
[10:58] <crimsun> cens0red, I'm in charge of it.
[10:58] <po0f> cens0red: Do you have JACK's header files?
[10:58] <gnomefreak> mrlegume: are you on 64bit 32bit or ppc?
[10:59] <cens0red> crimsun thanks! I'll give it a try.
[10:59] <ForgeAus> lots of options with extracting a tarball (ie tar.gz files) I'm not so sure about the installation of them or placement of where they're meant to go or how your menat to run them after extraction, depending on the files in it I guess... and if they have documentation to explain what to do or not
[10:59] <mrlegume> gnomefreak, 32bit
[10:59] <Slart> linlin: I think du has a switch to show files owned by a certain user
[10:59] <mrlegume> it says Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.68~ubuntu3)
[10:59] <cens0red> po0f I'm not much of a coder. Not sure what that means. Can u elaborate?
[10:59] <mrlegume> but then "automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes"
[10:59] <gnomefreak> mrlegume: enable multiverse repo than sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:59] <crimsun> cens0red, I gave you the command to resolve that issue.
[11:00] <cens0red> crimsun " checking for JACK... yes"
[11:00] <cens0red> thankyou.
[11:00] <mrlegume> gnomefreak, no it's not that
[11:00] <gnomefreak> ah i see
[11:00] <po0f> cens0red: When you installed JACK (either directly or as a dependency), you got just the library.  To do any development, you have to install the *-dev package for it as well, which will give you the header files to use that library.
[11:00] <gnomefreak> is that the onoly error you get?
[11:00] <gnomefreak> mrlegume: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:01] <gnomefreak> and please pastebin any errors you get
[11:01] <cens0red> po0f thanks for that explanation. I just installed the appropriate -dev package, as per crimun's suggestion.
[11:01] <mrlegume> which is the official pastebin?
[11:01] <Torn> Im new to ubuntu, and im trying to figure out what its saying to uncomment repository's, im trying to enable the universe section of the Ubuntu repository
[11:02] <gnomefreak> !pastebin | mrlegume
[11:02] <ubotu> mrlegume: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:02] <mrlegume> gnomefreak, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/849442
[11:02] <fowlduck> cens0red: when compiling applications this is a common problem, installing the application and not the dev package, you should note this for future problems :)
[11:02] <mrlegume> ok i used the other one
[11:02] <gnomefreak> mrlegume: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[11:02] <fowlduck> !apt-sources
[11:02] <mrlegume> 6.10
[11:02] <mrlegume> edgy
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-sources - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <n2diy> legumes? yum.
[11:03] <gnomefreak> crimsun: is there a problem with flash's site when installing flash on edgy
[11:03] <n2diy> Yep
[11:04] <johan^pirate> i followed this guide  ---> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85917 but i cannot choose the kernel SMP in the grub menu :S whats wrong
[11:04] <cens0red> fowlduck thanks. It's often the problem of not knowing which -dev packages to install though.
[11:04] <mrlegume> gnomefreak, i think the problem is that the apt script can't download the flash package, probably due to moved/broken url
[11:04] <crimsun> gnomefreak, for the version in edgy, yes, it's known. The suggested workaround is to use edgy-backports's.
[11:04] <gnomefreak> mrlegume: please enable the backports repos and try it
[11:04] <n2diy> johan^pirate: maybe it was the default? what does 'cat /proc/cpuinfo tell you?
[11:05] <gnomefreak> ty crimsun
[11:05] <crimsun> np
[11:06] <johan^pirate> n2diy: model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+
[11:06] <fowlduck> cens0red: indeed, but searching for dev packages that include something similar to what you need support for can often turn up fixes.  I didn't mean this as a criticism of your problem solution abilities, I just meant it to help you to recognize the issue in the future, and so that you can help others.
[11:06] <mrlegume> gnomefreak, that's strange.. i've installed flash successfully on my laptop running 6.10 and it didn't require the backports repo
[11:06] <n2diy> johan^pirate: that's it?
[11:06] <gnomefreak> mrlegume: im guessing this is a new issue that arised
[11:06] <fowlduck> !repositories | Torn
[11:06] <ubotu> Torn: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:07] <mrlegume> why would enabling backports help?
[11:07] <gnomefreak> mrlegume: maybe the package for flash 7 is broken
[11:07] <johan^pirate> n2diy: pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/220/
[11:07] <cens0red> fowlduck oh my problem solution abilities are woefull. I'm way out of my depth.
[11:07] <n2diy> johan^roger the pastebin
[11:07] <gnomefreak> mrlegume: the package from flash site not in repos
[11:08] <fowlduck> cens0red: the only way to learn to swim ;-)
[11:08] <mrlegume> gnomefreak, ic ok
[11:08] <crimsun> gnomefreak, mrlegume, the 7.0.68 package has known issues (read: problems coping with broken downloads)
[11:08] <mrlegume> crimsun, so what's the solution?
[11:08] <crimsun> mrlegume, I outlined it o
[11:08] <crimsun> above.
[11:08] <gnomefreak> mrlegume: enable backports and install flash 9
[11:08] <imbecile> how do i fix this error "The file /etc/vmware/vmnet8/dhcpd/dhcpd.leases~ that this program was about to install already exists.  Overwrite? [yes] "
[11:09] <mrlegume> crimsun, ok sorry i'm blind
[11:09] <mrlegume> crimsun, thanks
[11:09] <n2diy> johan^pirate: your cooking, cpu o and cpu1 are going.
[11:10] <johan^pirate> n2diy: what do you mean with cooking ? (my english is so bad) :P
[11:10] <fowlduck> imbecile: it looks like you're installing some application (vmware of some sort) and you already had it installed.  this doesn't look like it's a real problem, but I could be wrong
[11:11] <n2diy> johan^pirate:  It is working cpu0 and cpu1 are workingy!
[11:11] <n2diy> johan^pirate:  It is working cpu0 and cpu1 are working!
[11:11] <Menisk> What are the minimum system requirements of ubuntu 6.10?
[11:11] <imbecile> fowlduck, its not letting me install stuff with synaptic because of it
[11:12] <phr34ck> How can I remove FireFox ?
[11:12] <johns^> Menisk: I guess a i386 ;)
[11:12] <fowlduck> imbecile: is vmware running?
[11:12] <phr34ck> I downloaded the 2.0 version, and I want to remove the one that comes with Ubuntu.
[11:12] <gnomefreak> phr34ck: you try not to if using ubuntu  kubuntu you can safely
[11:12] <gnomefreak> phr34ck: dont
[11:12] <johns^> Menisk: an reasonably comfortable from a Pentium 2 with enough memory
[11:13] <phr34ck> gnomefreak,  why not?
[11:13] <fowlduck> imbecile: and can you take a look at the contents of that file and see if it's critical to keep?
[11:13] <phr34ck> I'm not using it.
[11:13] <gnomefreak> phr34ck: it will remove things you need with it
[11:13] <phr34ck> gnomefreak, I see.
[11:13] <imbecile> fowlduck,  i'll try uninstalling it
[11:13] <gnomefreak> phr34ck: 3-4 packages you need will be removed and than your just looking at problems
[11:13] <Menisk> johns^,How would a pentium 3 and 256mb of ram go?
[11:13] <phr34ck> Owh yeah.
[11:13] <gnomefreak> !ff | phr34ck
[11:13] <ubotu> phr34ck: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:13] <johan^pirate> n2diy: but if i boot which the generic kernel i must reinstall the nvidia modules every time :S
[11:13] <fowlduck> imbecile: umm, you could try just deleting that file :/
[11:14] <gnomefreak> phr34ck: it says it on the newversion link
[11:14] <phr34ck> owh man, I was just asking about plugins ;p
[11:14] <fowlduck> imbecile: which is why I recommended taking a look at the contents, to make sure it's not critical to the operation of vmware.  I suspect it isnt
[11:14] <phr34ck> Im trying to install Flash player, but it's not working.
[11:14] <n2diy> johan^pirate:  I don't know anything about that, but both your CPUs are cooking, roger?
[11:14] <phr34ck> Do you know why ?
[11:14] <gnomefreak> phr34ck: for 2.0?
[11:14] <phr34ck> yeah
[11:15] <phr34ck> it always say Installation failed.
[11:15] <imbecile> fowlduck,  I'm not even using vmware yet so i'll just try a reinstall
[11:15] <johan^pirate> n2diy: jupp my both processors i going :P
[11:15] <gnomefreak> phr34ck: edgy?
[11:15] <phr34ck> daper or something ;p
[11:15] <fowlduck> imbecile: ok, well, i mean, delete that file and try
[11:15] <phr34ck> 6.06
[11:15] <gnomefreak> phr34ck: lsb_release -a
[11:15] <phr34ck> dapper
[11:15] <gnomefreak> phr34ck: can you pastebin the full errors please
[11:15] <linlin> waht can i run on the command line to return the username of the current user?
[11:15] <n2diy> johan^pirate:  what is your native language?
[11:16] <johan^pirate> n2diy: swedish :)
[11:16] <phr34ck> It's very simple. I choose "Install missing plugins", then when I starts to install it says "Installation fails, please choose manual installation"
[11:16] <n2diy> !swedish
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swedish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <po0f> linlin: whoami
[11:16] <johns^> Menisk: should work. However, gnome and kde are heavy
[11:16] <gnomefreak> there is a sweden chanel i think its sw
[11:16] <gnomefreak> !sw
[11:16] <n2diy> !se
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[11:16] <gnomefreak> or se :)
[11:16] <linlin> thankyou po0f
[11:16] <LumaQQ> ?
[11:16] <johan^pirate> n2diy: im alredy in the ubutnu-se but noone is awake :P
[11:17] <Menisk> I'm only doing the base as it is a server installation.
[11:17] <johns^> Menisk: but I run Debian Etch (similar to Edgy I guess) on a 500MHz Celeron laptop with 64MB
[11:17] <computer> what's ubuntu se for
[11:17] <Polysics> hello all!
[11:17] <johns^> Menisk: with WindowMaker :)
[11:17] <Polysics> newbie back at work :-)
[11:17] <e1> what's windowmaker
[11:17] <johns^> Menisk: for a server that's more than enough
[11:17] <gnomefreak> compengi: swedish channel
[11:17] <n2diy> johan^pirate:  roger that, I should be asleep too!
[11:17] <Menisk> johns^ Awesome.
[11:17] <johns^> e1: a window manager
[11:17] <Menisk> Thanks
[11:17] <e1> o
[11:17] <compengi> gnomefreak, ?
[11:17] <Polysics> how would i go about doing something similar on what Remote Desktop does on Windows?
[11:18] <gnomefreak> compengi: ?
[11:18] <johan^pirate> n2diy: hehe :)
[11:18] <liquiddoom> Polysics: VNC
[11:18] <johns^> Polysics: vnc
[11:18] <johan^pirate> FOOD! :P
[11:18] <e1> !Remote Desktop
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Remote Desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <e1> u can have vnc on windows too right
[11:18] <johan^pirate> brb
[11:18] <liquiddoom> Polysics: Yep.
[11:18] <e1> i think i was using it
[11:18] <compengi> gnomefreak, you where talking to me?
[11:18] <koyo001> need to operate this command
[11:18] <liquiddoom> Er, oops.
[11:18] <gnomefreak> compengi: nope
[11:18] <koyo001> sudo make menuconfig
 compengi: ?
[11:18] <compengi> lol
 compengi: swedish channel
[11:18] <Polysics> liquiddoom, VNC requires a session open on the "server" side as far as i got it
[11:18] <johns^> Polysics: or ltsp :)
[11:18] <keneida> hello, is there some repository where i can find packages which are debug enabled?
[11:18] <n2diy> Food, whatz that?
[11:18] <harrisony1> !vnc | Polysics
[11:18] <ubotu> Polysics: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[11:18] <koyo001> po0f: are you stillon
[11:19] <e1> does VNC work if my comp is hooked up wirelessly to a router that i can't control
[11:19] <gnomefreak> the swedish thing was a autocomplete mistake
[11:19] <po0f> koyo001: Yes.
[11:19] <Polysics> !FreeNX
[11:19] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[11:19] <johns^> Polysics: or enabling gdm for remote logins
[11:19] <harrisony1> e1: hmmmm might be hard
[11:19] <imbecile> how do i uninstall vmware in terminal?
[11:19] <koyo001> need to menuconfig
[11:19] <fnf> !midi
[11:19] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[11:19] <Polysics> johns^, that would requre being on a linux client tho, woudln't it?
[11:19] <koyo001> po0f: need to write in menuconfig
[11:20] <e1> harrisony1 cuz i don't think i know what my ip is, even if i do, it's a little wierd, any one know? setting up VNC that is
[11:20] <johns^> Polysics: or a x-server that runs on windows
[11:20] <po0f> koyo001: Did you copy over the old config and `make oldconfig` first?
[11:20] <Polysics> my problem is not that i can't connect, is that having to go and log a user on before i can use the remote on VNC sort of defeats the point
[11:20] <koyo001> po0f:  nop
[11:20] <Polysics> i'll check out freeNX
[11:20] <harrisony1> e1: well ifs setup right it can be setup and forget
[11:20] <e1> !freeNX
[11:20] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[11:20] <Menisk> !wpa
[11:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:21] <keneida> !packages
[11:21] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[11:21] <fnf> Is there anyone here using "pmidi" to play MIDI files ?
[11:21] <koyo001> po0f: so what am i suposed to do??
[11:21] <imbecile> how do i remove vmware in terminal?
[11:21] <Polysics> anyone has the OpenDNS addresses handy, please? totally OT but my provider's DNS sucks currently :-)
[11:21] <imbecile> or how do i remove vmware at all?
[11:21] <johns^> imbecile: depends on how you installed it
[11:21] <koyo001> po0f:  man linux is complicated
[11:22] <fnf> imbecile: I'm not sure if yours is a stock vmware, for the standard source package, invoke vmware-uninstall
[11:22] <e1> !openDNS
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openDNS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <koyo001> po0f: at least for a transition from windows
[11:22] <fnf> imbecile: D'oh :) the debian vmware should be apt-get removed.
[11:22] <e1> !OpenDNS
[11:22] <harrisony1> !opendns
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about OpenDNS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opendns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <po0f> koyo001: sudo cp /boot/config-`uname -r` /path/to/kernel/source/.config && cd /path/to/kernel/source && make oldconfig
[11:23] <fnf> Anyone has used pmidi to play MIDI files before, please ?
[11:23] <koyo001> po0f:  No such file or directory
[11:24] <koyo001> po0f:  this is the error that it reads
[11:24] <mrlegume> thanks too gnomefreak
[11:24] <Polysics> wow, FreeNX sounds great
[11:24] <fowlduck> Polysics: I have heard wonderful things about it
[11:24] <po0f> koyo001: Run the commands individually; which one does it error out on?
[11:25] <e1> does freeNX work if i'm behind wireless router, as in VNC doesn't work cuz i don't have proper ip i don't think, and i use dhcp
[11:25] <Polysics> fowlduck, i'll have a better informed opinion as soon as this crap ISDN line lets me :-)
[11:25] <e1> !ISDN
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ISDN - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <fowlduck> e1: there are ways around that, for example, set up port forwarding and dynamic dns
[11:26] <Polysics> no, the ISDN line works, it's just hilariously slow :-)
[11:26] <e1> fowlduck those things has to be done on the router right
[11:26] <Polysics> FreeNX works over SSH, i think VNC can be made to do that too
[11:26] <stjepan> I made a new compiz/beryl plugin!
[11:26] <koyo001> po0f: cp: missing destination file operand after `/boot/config-2.6.15-27-386'
[11:26] <koyo001> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[11:26] <stjepan> video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8276968601342553636
[11:26] <e1> Polysics do i still have to do port forwarding for freeNX?
[11:27] <fowlduck> e1: yes
[11:27] <dv5237> how can i get dvd playback support on dapper?
[11:27] <liquiddoom> e1: Yes, you do. You need to do it for the SSH port, though.
[11:27] <fowlduck> e1: but don't take my word for it :/
[11:27] <po0f> koyo001: Did you type in: cp /boot/config-`uname -r` /path/to/kernel/source/.config ?
[11:27] <imbecile> when i try to remove vmware in synaptic i get this error "E: vmware-player: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" any suggestion
[11:27] <slytherin> !tell dv5237 about restricted
[11:27] <e1> fowlduck i don't have access to the router lol, it's school router
[11:27] <e1> fowlduck does that mean no remote desktop then =((
[11:27] <phr34ck> the reload button in Synaptic is equivalent to : apt-get upgrade, or update?
[11:28] <fowlduck> e1: sorry then, what you're looking for is one of the remote desktop pay services
[11:28] <slytherin> imbecile: looks like preinstall script is broken for that package
[11:28] <stjepan> phr34ck, update
[11:28] <po0f> phr34ck: update
[11:28] <fowlduck> e1: they act as a middle man for both machines to connect to
[11:28] <stjepan> phr34ck, "upgrade all" is dist-upgrade
[11:28] <koyo001> po0f:  no  sudo cp /boot/config-`uname -r`
[11:28] <e1> fowlduck how does pay services work around this problem, do they give me an ip or something, i know that sounds wierd
[11:28] <phr34ck> owh, so upgrade searches for updates?
[11:28] <e1> fowlduck i c
[11:28] <imbecile> slytherin,  how do i fix it?
[11:28] <e1> fowlduck cool
[11:28] <Polysics> i think you can use one of these commercial remote thingies, no idea about the price
[11:28] <fowlduck> e1: yes, if you like to pay
[11:28] <po0f> koyo001: You need to give it a destination; where's cp going to copy it to?
[11:28] <e1> fowlduck no i don't like to pay =)
[11:29] <slytherin> imbecile: No idea. Never used vmware player
[11:29] <Polysics> e1, they make you pay for the service of having a middle machine relaying between the two
[11:29] <e1> !VMware
[11:29] <ubotu> vmware is VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[11:29] <Polysics> it's a legit service
[11:29] <koyo001> po0f:  where do i need to send it????
[11:29] <e1> Polysics cool thx
[11:29] <fowlduck> e1: that's too bad, because i like to be paid ;)
[11:29] <imbecile> slytherin,  i'm just trying to get it uninstall
[11:29] <po0f> koyo001: /pat/to/kernel/source/.config
[11:29] <gnomefreak> lastlog phr34ck 3
[11:29] <e1> fowlduck lol but how much would u like to be paid =)
[11:29] <Polysics> fowlduck, you work for one of those services?
[11:29] <e1> fowlduck i have 1 cent hehe
[11:29] <po0f> koyo001: Wherever you untarred the kernel sourc at.
[11:29] <HeavyJay> I'm trying to use a crappy GE usb webcam.  The camera knows it's connected to a PC, but I guess I docn't have drivers for it.  dmesg tells me there's a "new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 7."  Any ideas on how to get Ubuntu to recognize it?
[11:29] <dv5237> slytherin: yeah bit thats edgy support when i add the line in /etc/apt/sources.list i get a error about the server
[11:30] <Polysics> i could use a reliable service for something like that at times
[11:30] <fowlduck> Polysics: no, but if he was in a paying people randomly mood ;)
[11:30] <slytherin> imbecile: That is the next step to install. Isn't it? I never even tried installing it.
[11:30] <e1> fowlduck but u'd have to pay shipping for me to send that penny =) lol just kidding
[11:30] <fowlduck> e1: hehe ;)
[11:30] <slytherin> dv5237: what is error?
[11:30] <koyo001> po0f: but i didn' t untar it i just used command
[11:30] <dv5237> slytherin: one moment please ill look it up
[11:30] <e1> what's vmware, i saw the introduction of it on google search, didn't really mean anything to me =)
[11:31] <koyo001> po0f: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[11:31] <phr34ck> gnomefreak, and then ?
[11:31] <Polysics> i'm starting out on Ruby on Rails, boy, how complicated but how powerful this is :-)
[11:31] <po0f> koyo001: Didn't you say you downloaded the source for 2.6.19.1?  Untar it then.
[11:31] <gnomefreak> phr34ck: than what? what was last thing you did?
[11:31] <koyo001> po0f: i did download it but someone told me to run this command and that it did the same
[11:32] <fowlduck> e1: https://secure.logmein.com/go.asp?page=home
[11:32] <phr34ck> I see list of commands and in the last tab : ***Never logged in***
[11:32] <nayyar_off> howcan i enable overwrite option in vsftpd? i mean ftp user can overwrite files?
[11:32] <fowlduck> e1: http://www.hamachi.cc/
[11:32] <po0f> koyo001: I said that the command would update you to the latest kernel in the repos, which is not the same as the latest kernel.
[11:32] <fowlduck> e1: free services tht get around this
[11:32] <gnomefreak> phr34ck: what was last thing you ran?
[11:33] <fowlduck> Polysics: http://www.hamachi.cc/
[11:33] <koyo001> po0f:  ah so i need to untar it to wich dir
[11:33] <gnomefreak> phr34ck: im still waiting for you to pastebin the errors
[11:33] <Polysics> fowlduck, is that what you work at?
[11:33] <po0f> koyo001: Wherever you want.
[11:33] <fowlduck> Polysics: https://secure.logmein.com/go.asp?page=home
[11:33] <fowlduck> Polysics: no
[11:33] <phr34ck> gnomefreak, which one? about the flash thingie ?
[11:33] <fowlduck> Polysics: I work for a technical college
[11:33] <gnomefreak> phr34ck: yes
[11:33] <fowlduck> Polysics: but those are free services that help you get around that
[11:33] <phr34ck> I read the link that ubotu gave me, downloading the packages now.
[11:34] <po0f> koyo001: I really can't step-by-step you through a kernel compile.
[11:34] <Polysics> and you like getting paid too? lol
[11:34] <Polysics> i work in education too, but they never pay me :-)
[11:34] <gnomefreak> phr34ck: link ubotu gave you?
[11:34] <e1> fowlduck: thx so much for the links, they're really helpful =), Polysics: what do u mean Ruby on Rails
[11:34] <koyo001> po0f: its hard???
[11:34] <Polysics> e1, RoR is a web application framework, OT here, i was just plugging it :-)
[11:35] <fowlduck> e1: http://www.rubyonrails.org
[11:35] <gnomefreak> Polysics: its not the easiest thing to compile
[11:35] <e1> what's OT
[11:35] <phr34ck> yeah, you wrote !ff | phr34ck
[11:35] <e1> fowlduck thx for the links again =)
[11:35] <phr34ck> there was a link for plugins.
[11:35] <fowlduck> e1: np :)
[11:35] <gnomefreak> e1: OT == offtopic
[11:35] <Polysics> gnomefreak, you mean RoR isn't easy to compile?
[11:35] <phr34ck> so I went there, and I'm downloading the approriate packages now.
[11:35] <gnomefreak> Polysics: kernel
[11:36] <Polysics> gnomefreak, then you have the wrong person :-P
[11:36] <gnomefreak> phr34ck: i need to know if flash installed first
[11:36] <po0f> koyo001: For a beginner, yes.
[11:36] <gnomefreak> oops
[11:36] <gnomefreak> koyo001: kernel isnt the easiest thing to compile
[11:36] <phr34ck> tis not installed.
[11:36] <HeavyJay> I found a Windows driver for the webcam, but no Linux driver...is it possible to get the Windows driver installed?
[11:36] <phr34ck> I never touched flashe
[11:36] <phr34ck> flash*
[11:36] <gnomefreak> phr34ck: i need to see the errors
[11:37] <phr34ck> gnomefreak, okay
[11:37] <Polysics> kernel ain't that bad, just remember to keep the old one :-)
[11:37] <koyo001> po0f: my problem is my wireless card i just bought a dell inspiron 6400 and i really wanted to make the switch from windows to linux
[11:37] <adam_> hi everyone! Problems with JACK... getting this message...  Could not connect to JACK server as client. Please check the messages window for more info.  How fix?
[11:38] <po0f> I'm sure you don't need to compile a whole new kernel to get your card to work.
[11:38] <koyo001> po0f: but without wireless connection linux is useless all the info is online
[11:38] <Ferret> adam_: Are you specifically trying to use jack for something, or is this just a random message?
[11:38] <gnomefreak> !wireless | koyo001
[11:38] <ubotu> koyo001: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:38] <Menisk> koyo001, don't the dells use the broadcom card? I got a brand new inspiron 1501 and thats what it uses?
[11:39] <po0f> koyo001: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158 for kernel compilation.
[11:39] <adam_> Ferret: I am trying to start jack. worked yesterday.
[11:39] <e1> fowlduck does log me in work on kubuntu?
[11:39] <Polysics> koyo001, i ended up getting those closed source drivers from Linuxant... worst part is understanding WHICH darn model of card you have :-)
[11:39] <phr34ck> How can I deleted everything in the terminal? Clear just scrolls down. I want to delete everything .. is it possible ?
[11:39] <fowlduck> e1: i dunno
[11:39] <gnomefreak> phr34ck: clear
[11:39] <koyo001> Polysics: does that work
[11:39] <e1> fowlduck looked like an .exe but i'm not sure, i'll look around some more and add things in this channel if i find something new
[11:39] <QwertyM> root!
[11:40] <gnomefreak> phr34ck: than close it and restart a terminal
[11:40] <koyo001> Polysics: hey if i get the wireless to work i am homefree
[11:40] <Ferret> adam_: ah, right.  Was just checking, 'cos some people get this because they don't have jack, and it's not really a problem.  I assume you've tried sudo /etc/init.d/jackd restart (or jack; whatever it's called0?
[11:41] <Polysics> koyo001, those work, but obviuosly if you have the right chipset
[11:42] <koyo001> i am pretty sure i have the model in the manual booklet
[11:44] <paolo> Hi. I can see my network card listed in lspci as "unknown network controller". however it doesn't appear as eth0: what should I do?
[11:44] <koyo001> Polysics: can i scan trough the command line my hardware???
[11:44] <koyo001> Polysics: to make sure of design spec
[11:45] <fowlduck> lspci?
[11:45] <po0f> koyo001: lspci
[11:45] <adam_> Ferret: still not working... couldn't find it in init.d but jackd is found anyway.... worked yesterday as I said, anymore ideas?
[11:45] <erUSUL> paolo: do 'sudo update-pciids'
[11:45] <paolo> erUSUL: and what does it do?
[11:46] <imbecile> how do i configure my wireless card with network manager?
[11:46] <paolo> (thanks for the info, anyway)
[11:46] <erUSUL> paolo: update the pci id database so when you use lspci again you can see what network controler is
[11:46] <Menisk> imbecile, does ubuntu have driver for your card?
[11:47] <koyo001> po0f: man if i would have known they had the upgrade option for wireless to intel3945 i really would not have been messing with all this\
[11:47] <imbecile> Menisk,  yeah
[11:47] <imbecile> Menisk,  its active i just need to get it set up
[11:47] <Menisk> It should appear in the network manager.
[11:47] <VEDbMAK>  
[11:47] <VEDbMAK> )
[11:47] <[2007] bI> VEDbMAK->  :))))))
[11:47] <VEDbMAK>  ?)
[11:47] <atlant> ubuntu sucks
[11:47] <po0f> koyo001: Sorry I couldn't help you more.  I didn't know a wireless card was your problem and even if I did know, I wouldn't have known how to solve it.
[11:48] <[2007] bI> atlant-> lol ^)))
[11:48] <VEDbMAK> atlant  :)))))))))
[11:48] <[2007] bI> :))
[11:48] <[2007] bI> 
[11:48] <VEDbMAK>  860 
[11:48] <[2007] bI> 
[11:48] <atlant> arch the best
[11:48] <VEDbMAK>    ?)
[11:48] <[2007] bI> mandriva rulit ))
[11:48] <atlant> VEDbMAK: lol speak endlish
[11:48] <atlant> VEDbMAK: lol speak english
[11:48] <koyo001> po0f: thanks for the help and tiem you did help me with
[11:48] <VEDbMAK> )
[11:48] <[2007] bI> :)
[11:48] <erUSUL> !ops
[11:48] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[11:48] <gnomefreak> erUSUL: ?
[11:49] <Ferret> o.o
[11:49] <imbecile> Menisk,  i dont see the connection or the keyring option
[11:50] <paolo> erUSUL: the command doesn't work, since it tries to connect to a http url
[11:50] <Ferret> adam_: Did you 'killall jackd' before re-running jackd?
[11:50] <erUSUL> paolo: yes, to dl the new db
[11:50] <Menisk> imbecile, I'm not sure then. I'm in the middle of installing ubuntu 6.10 to do the same thing. I'll let you know when I work it out.
[11:50] <erUSUL> paolo: anyway you can check what network card do you have in the mb manual or specs
[11:51] <imbecile> Menisk,  ok thanks
[11:51] <paolo> erUSUL: after checking it what can I do?
[11:51] <adam_> Ferret: just says no process killed...
[11:51] <paolo> i have to make it work as eth'
[11:51] <paolo> i have to make it work as eth0
[11:52] <erUSUL> paolo: and now how it appear as?
[11:52] <erUSUL> paolo: eth1?
[11:52] <paolo> erUSUL: no. it doesn't appear as eth0 or eth1
[11:52] <paolo> if I launch ifconfig I can't see it
[11:53] <paolo> now i'm using another pc
[11:53] <erUSUL> paolo: 'dmesg | grep eth' shows anything ?
[11:53] <paolo> let's try
[11:53] <imbecile> anyone see this?
[11:54] <Ferret> nopes
[11:54] <Ferret> adam_: Hrm, well, the error message isn't very clear... must be some switch or option to get it to be more verbose about it...
[11:56] <ibanzajoe> how do i generate a UUID for a partition?
[11:57] <harrisony1> veronica, was it you with the beryl and KNotify problem
[11:58] <ppd> hi. how can I set the "run_command" entry in metacity's gconf entry to a special key, not only to e.g "<ctrl>a"?
[11:59] <unfun> How do I remove gnome from my system?
[11:59] <harrisony1> unfun, as in you want just kde or just terminal
[11:59] <ppd> sudo apt-get remove gnome*?
[11:59] <ppd> + sudo apt-get autoremove
[11:59] <tchado_> hi, i have a problem, when i start my computer i need to make : ctrl+alt+backspace (if no, the system is completly freeze). I start again and i have a message " a board is busy", i start a xterm, htop, see that gnome-panel use 99% of cpu, kill this, and i type gnome-panel, the session stop, i connect again, and its ok, i can work. Someone can help me ?
[12:00] <unfun> I want just kde, I have both installed but i want to remove gnome
[12:00] <harrisony1> ok try sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop
[12:00] <harrisony1> but if that wrecks everything dont blame me
[12:00] <Torn> lol
[12:01] <nn> how would i go about contributing my parallel branch of ubuntu based on FreeBSD to the ubuntu project? :)
[12:01] <unfun> If everything dies I will not be able to fix it :P
[12:01] <harrisony1> !development
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about development - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <e1> is there a game forum
[12:01] <kidbuntu> "Requested audio codec family[mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not available, enable it at compilation" its an mplayer error
[12:01] <J-_> I was in that same vote a couple minutes ago with fvwm :S heh luckily nothing messed up that I *know* of
[12:01] <harrisony1> unfun, worst comes worst you wont be able to log in and only get terminal
[12:01] <e1> is there a game forum, not sure if this is the first time i sent this msg, i just logged in
[12:01] <kidbuntu> "Requested audio codec family[mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not available, enable it at compilation" its an mplayer error
[12:01] <kidbuntu> please help
[12:01] <nn> im slowly working on autoated scripts that build Freebuntu and Openbuntu (my internal names for my fork of ubuntu using {free,open}bsd
[12:02] <harrisony1> kidbuntu, you have w32codecs
[12:02] <nn> eventually i wanna do a NetBSD-current based ubuntu build as well
[12:02] <kidbuntu> nope
[12:02] <paolo> erUSUL: dmesg | grep eth doesn't show anything
[12:02] <harrisony1> nn, try #ubuntu-devel
[12:02] <kidbuntu> harryisony1:nope
[12:02] <kidbuntu> harryisony1: is that the problem
[12:02] <harrisony1> kidbuntu, can you pastebin your sources.list
[12:03] <kidbuntu> harryisony1: ok
[12:03] <CoRnJuLiOx> can someone tell me what the /usr/share folder is for?
[12:03] <kidbuntu> harryisony1: please give me a link for the pastebimn
[12:03] <kidbuntu> harryisony1: please give me a link for the pastebin
[12:03] <harrisony1> CoRnJuLiOx, 1 momenyt
[12:03] <CoRnJuLiOx> its taking up 1 gig right now, and i'd like to know if theres any way to clear it
[12:04] <tchado_> kidbuntu > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:04] <kidbuntu> .
[12:04] <oldab> hi!
[12:04] <harrisony1> CoRnJuLiOx, man hier
[12:04] <harrisony1> !hi
[12:04] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:04] <harrisony1> !pastebin | kidbuntu
[12:04] <ubotu> kidbuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:04] <tim167> how can I play a wmv file on ubuntu ? (mplayer says "Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x33564D57" )
[12:04] <oldab> I am running 6.10 and damaged my dpkg/available
[12:05] <nn> tim167: win32-codecs package
[12:05] <ailean> install the bad and ugly codecs tim167
[12:05] <oldab> apparently there is one colon too much
[12:05] <harrisony1> tim167, w32codecs google it :)
[12:05] <harrisony1> ailean, he uses mplayer which uses w32codecs
[12:05] <ailean> harrisony1, okay, my mistake
[12:06] <tim167> nn, ailean, harrisony: thanks! i'll install the windoze codecs (without ethousiasm)
[12:07] <dimitri> hi all, how can i mount a 2nd ext3 hdd @ boot time? thanks
[12:08] <kidbuntu> harrisony1: please give me a link to the pastebin
[12:08] <CoRnJuLiOx> can anyone tell me what the /usr/share folder is for and if i can delete it or the stuff in it because its taking up 1 whole gigabyte out of my 17 gb partition, and i'm almost out of space
[12:08] <harrisony1> !pastebin | kidbuntu
[12:08] <ubotu> kidbuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:09] <harrisony1> CoRnJuLiOx, man heir < run in terminal and read
[12:09] <glyn> does anyone know how to get webcams working on GAIM?
[12:09] <threw> hi all ! and happy new year !
[12:09] <glyn> or if I could ever use yahoo with webcams
[12:09] <threw>  does anyone know a software in order to make mechanics (physics) schematics please ?   not in order to solve the problem, just for making an image in order to represent "reality" with vectors, and all this stuff :)
[12:09] <CoRnJuLiOx> harrisony1: oh, i thought you were speaking in german the first time
[12:09] <CoRnJuLiOx> no manual entry for heir
[12:10] <harrisony1> CoRnJuLiOx, heehhehe german, try man hier
[12:10] <kidbuntu> harrisony1: please give me a link to the pastebin
[12:10] <harrisony1> sorry
[12:10] <harrisony1> !pastebin | kidbuntu  |its there
[12:10] <ubotu> kidbuntu  |its there: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:10] <harrisony1> " The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org"
[12:11] <CoRnJuLiOx> ok so i can't necessarily delete it
[12:11] <tim167> nn, ailean, harrisony1: ok win32codecs is a folder with .dll, .ax, and .acm files in it, what do I do to use these for video playback ?
[12:11] <harrisony1> tim167, didnt you get the deb
[12:11] <tim167> harrisony1: no...
[12:11] <harrisony1> 1 sec
[12:12] <HymnToLife> tim167, copy all the files to /usr/lib/win32
[12:12] <HymnToLife> (create the dir before if it doesn't exist already)
[12:12] <ailean> nononono
[12:12] <glyn> does anyone know how to get webcams working on Ubuntu and what programs you can use with it?
[12:12] <ailean> tim167, don't do that
[12:12] <ailean> install it using synaptic
[12:12] <HymnToLife> rubbish
[12:12] <harrisony1> tim167, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/
[12:12] <HymnToLife> it will do exactly the same thing
[12:13] <tim167> HymnToLife, ailean: I cant find it in synaptic
[12:13] <ailean> tim167, enable multiverse and universe repos
[12:13] <harrisony1> tim167, it aint in synaptic use ^^
[12:13] <HymnToLife> tim167, it's not in Ubuntu repos, that's why I install them manually so I don't have to bother adding 3rd party repos
[12:13] <kidbuntu> "requested audio codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not available. enable it at compilation" mplayer error
[12:14] <HymnToLife> I think it's in !seveas
[12:14] <threw> any idea for my question please ?
[12:14] <harrisony1> kidbuntu, i just said pastebun your sources.list
[12:14] <harrisony1> and try http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/ as wekk
[12:14] <Menisk> Is it normal for the ubuntu 6.10 alternate install to take a lifetime to "Clean up"
[12:14] <kidbuntu> harrisony1: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/849466 here its is
[12:15] <tim167> ok i'll try http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/, the instructions are for breezy, will that work for edgy too ?
[12:16] <tim167> hmm, deb: command not found
[12:16] <harrisony1> kidbuntu, remove deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ edgy-plf free non-free
[12:17] <harrisony1> tim167, add deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free to your sources.list
[12:17] <harrisony1> and then you can install w32codecs
[12:17] <kidbuntu> harrisony1: should i change the breezy to edgy, cause i'm on edgy?
[12:17] <tim167> harrisony: ok add the line as in copy / paste, now i get it
[12:18] <harrisony1> kidbuntu, go sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[12:18] <harrisony1> if that gives an error tell us
[12:19] <gnomefreak> harrisony1: w32codecs isnt in the official repos
[12:19] <gnomefreak> ah nvm i see you gave him a repo
[12:19] <harrisony1> gnomefreak, i know they had plf in there sources.list
[12:19] <tchado_> i have a problem with gnome see here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/225/  thx
[12:20] <harrisony1> yeah
[12:20] <harrisony1> hehe
[12:21] <mypapit> yeah
[12:21] <j0sh0> hi  all, just hoping someone could help me with a problem i'm having with 6.06. I could display 1024x768 res in winxp, but ubuntu wont let me select it, and when i edit the file gdm doesn't load. I've tried reconfiguring and installing the 915hack but to no avail (laptop, intel integrated 810 chipset). please help 800x600 is painful!
[12:22] <harrisony1> j0sh0, what gfx card
[12:22] <gnomefreak> j0sh0: did you install the intel drivers?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> erUSUL: too many commands ;)
[12:22] <j0sh0> harrisony1: intel 810 from what i can work out...
[12:23] <j0sh0> gnomefreak: where would I find these drivers?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> erUSUL: wget bleh.bleh && sudo dpkg -i w32codecs...
[12:23] <gnomefreak> !intel | j0sh0
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <gnomefreak> grrrrrr
[12:23] <harrisony1> j0sh0, you make have better luck from using edgy i know some people did, any reason not to use edgy
[12:24] <gnomefreak> j0sh0: i dont remember the name of the but there are 810 drivers in repos
[12:24] <kidbuntu> harrisony1: after doing the sudo apt-get update whats next?
[12:24] <glyn> how do I get wmv files to work in Totem?  AVIs seem to work but not wmv
[12:24] <j0sh0> harrisony1:just coz my laptop would be about 3yrs old, i thought LTS from 6.06 would be better..?
[12:24] <harrisony1> sudo apt-get install w32codecs, kidbuntu
[12:24] <dimitri_> bbl
[12:24] <finalbeta> How does one start making a .deb file? Created a Java program. Would like to create a .deb from it. It also only runs on Java 6. So I would need to check for that.
[12:25] <MooUK> j0sh0: Unless you need the long term support bit, edgy will probably be more useful to you
[12:25] <harrisony1> j0sh0, ahh i ran edgy on the worst box ever imaginable and ran fine  so try upgrading to edgy and see what happens
[12:25] <gnomefreak> finalbeta: ask in #ubuntu-motu
[12:25] <finalbeta> ok
[12:25] <j0sh0> is upgrading from 6.06 difficult?
[12:26] <gnomefreak> j0sh0: no but that depends what you have installed on system
[12:26] <drumline> Why upgrade to 6.06?   6.10 is out.
[12:26] <phr34ck> Hey, I'm having this error: Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (9.0.21.78.2ubuntu1~dapper1) ...
[12:26] <phr34ck> Downloading... download failed
[12:26] <phr34ck> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[12:26] <glyn> could someone tell me how to get WMV format to give me video playback?
[12:26] <gnomefreak> j0sh0: gksudo "update-manager -c"
[12:26] <MooUK> a 3-year-old box should easily run the up-to-date linux distros. Possibly not XGL but who cares about that?
[12:26] <gnomefreak> phr34ck: enable backports and try it again
[12:26] <j0sh0> thanks guys i'll give that a go! cheers for the help!
[12:26] <harrisony1> glyn, add deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free to your sources.list
[12:26] <gnomefreak> phr34ck: ther eis a problem with the 7.xx drivers from adobe
[12:27] <glyn> will that work even though I'm on Hoary?
[12:27] <phr34ck> I see.
[12:27] <kidbuntu> harrisony1: E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[12:27] <harrisony1> any reason your on hoary
[12:27] <gnomefreak> glyn: i doubt it
[12:27] <glyn> it's the only thing I could get running for some reason
[12:27] <harrisony1> glyn, your chances are near impossible
[12:27] <glyn> I had it working before
[12:27] <glyn> I Just forget how to do it
[12:28] <phr34ck> Backports are enabled.
[12:28] <harrisony1> kidbuntu change deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free to deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free
[12:28] <battlesquid> how can i suggest a utility to be added to the ubuntu repos?
[12:28] <glyn> does anyone have a list to the hoary repository to get wmv's running?
[12:28] <harrisony1> #ubuntu-motu battlesquid  maybe
[12:29] <gnomefreak> battlesquid: ask in #ubuntu-motu
[12:29] <battlesquid> thanks
[12:29] <gnomefreak> you can download flash here phr34ck http://www.youmortals.com/ubuntu/packages/
[12:29] <zeax_> oh my "/etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom" was missing, is here anyone who could send me one?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> harrisony1: w32codecs is there also
[12:30] <glyn> does anyone know the link to the hoary repository for w32 codecs and other things required for wmv files?
[12:30] <gnomefreak> glyn: grab the w32codecs package from http://www.youmortals.com/ubuntu/packages/
[12:31] <glyn> alright
[12:32] <gnomefreak> good afternoon Hobbsee ;)
[12:33] <glyn> gnome freak I got a dependency problem
[12:33] <glyn>  w32codecs depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1); however:
[12:34] <glyn> Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu15.
[12:34] <Hobbsee> hey gnomefreak
[12:34] <gnomefreak> glyn: ah than you probably wont get w32codecs on that system
[12:34] <zeax_> hi anyone could send me "/etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom" via email?
[12:35] <glyn> I used to have them
[12:35] <eilker> hi, which log file shows my last shut-down time ? i cant find it...
[12:35] <glyn> why couldn't I get them now?
[12:35] <gnomefreak> glyn: i havent built it for anything under edgy
[12:35] <gnomefreak> glyn: you most likely got them from plf but there have been issues with plf and support for them
[12:35] <imbecile> dang i hate this router
[12:36] <gnomefreak> glyn: give me a sec
[12:37] <imbecile> can anyone see this?
[12:37] <Slart> Any tips for a good photo album organizer? is gthumb/f-spot the best?
[12:37] <jhaig> imbecile: No, I don't see it.  :-)
[12:38] <imbecile> ok
[12:38] <imbecile> hehe
[12:38] <Slart> or.. best is perhaps not a good thing to ask for.. but.. any recommendations.. apart from those two?
[12:38] <hyphenated> Slart: I use digikam (a KDE program), because it works well with my camera
[12:38] <Slart> hyphenated: digikam.. I'll check it out.. thanks
[12:39] <gnomefreak> glyn: try this. type this commmand in terminal: wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[12:39] <hyphenated> Slart: if all else sucks, get picasa for linux (an app from google). I didn't like it much, but you might
[12:40] <gnomefreak> glyn: when that is done type: sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[12:40] <gnomefreak> glyn: let me know if it installed
[12:40] <gnomefreak> installs
[12:40] <Slart> hyphenated: mm, I've used that with windows.. wasn't to fond of it but I guess it's ok, if all else fails
[12:40] <glyn> K
[12:40] <glyn> it's downloading right now
[12:40] <gnomefreak> glyn: you are on 32bit ubuntu right?
[12:41] <hyphenated> Slart: ot
[12:41] <glyn> I think so
[12:41] <hyphenated> sorry
[12:41] <hyphenated> Slart: it's what I use in windows
[12:41] <gnomefreak> glyn: ok try it let me know. im gonna run outside for a minute
[12:42] <glyn> k
[12:42] <Menisk> How do I use WPA with ubuntu the wiki how to doesn't work for me.
[12:46] <glyn> the w32 codecs installed
[12:46] <gnomefreak> glyn: good
[12:46] <glyn> but it still doesn't play wmv's
[12:47] <gnomefreak> WMV files encoded with DRM (Digital Rights Management) cannot be played with this package.
[12:47] <glyn> I've tried 6 different ones heh
[12:47] <glyn> don't think they would all have that
[12:47] <gnomefreak> glyn: try mplayer or gxine
[12:47] <gnomefreak> glyn: hold on a sec
[12:48] <imbecile> glyn,  try vlc player I bet ya it will work
[12:48] <gnomefreak> glyn: you have gstreamer codecs installed right?
[12:48] <pianoboy3333> I have an issue with lsdvd... my drive is at like /dev/hdb, and lsdvd says can't open disc /dev/dvd... help?
[12:48] <glyn> I'm not sure, it plays AVIs
[12:48] <gnomefreak> glyn: there is a fix for it
[12:49] <gnomefreak> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1649012  replace you gstreamer version of the 0.10
[12:49] <pianoboy3333> nm, bot it
[12:52] <phr34ck> I know this has nothing to do with Ubuntu, but what's the integral for sin(x/2) ?
[12:52] <apokryphos> !offtopic | phr34ck
[12:52] <ubotu> phr34ck: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:52] <glyn> gnomefreak:so I just type what it says in code?
[12:52] <glyn> rm rf ~/.streamer-0.1.0
[12:52] <glyn> gst-inspec-0.10
[12:53] <glyn> and that's it?
[12:53] <dimitri> how can i remove a directory from the command line? i have tried sudo rmdir /home/dimitri/temp, but it complains that it is not empty
[12:53] <apokryphos> dimitri: rm -rf /some/directory
[12:53] <oidia> rm -r
[12:53] <gnomefreak> glyn: yes if you had gstreamer0.1.
[12:53] <gnomefreak> 0.10
[12:54] <dimitri> thanks
[12:54] <apokryphos> dimitri: -r = recursive (if you're deleting a directory with things inside, you have to also delete all its contents), and -f is force, so it doesn't prompt you i.e. if it's read-only etc
[12:54] <glyn> I don't have a /.gstreamer directory
[12:55] <gnomefreak> glyn: than install them
[12:55] <dimitri> apokryphos, thanks, i should have read man rm first... but i see now :)
[12:55] <glyn> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer-0.10
[12:55] <Menisk> I need help configuring WPA in edgy
[12:55] <gnomefreak> glyn: the ones you need  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:55] <gnomefreak> !wpa | Menisk
[12:55] <ubotu> Menisk: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:56] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: that is correct you remember correctly :)
[12:57] <bsharitt> Just curious, when I try to play the ubuntu.ogg file in the Examples folder in either Totem or VLC, Gnome crashes. Is this a feature or bug?
[12:57] <Madeye> bsharitt, HAHAH feature or a bug? LoL
[12:58] <warlock> How to see the load average on the CPU?
[12:58] <glyn> odd must have added repositories 5 times already
[12:58] <bsharitt> Well it seems like and odd feature, so I'm guessing bug
[12:58] <glyn> just added them again
[12:59] <glyn> Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[12:59] <Madeye> bsharitt, are you talking about exerpeince ubuntu.ogg or ubuntu Sax.ogg?
[12:59] <glyn> that's after I clicked the universe and non-free boxes
[12:59] <bsharitt> the experience ubuntu.ogg
[12:59] <glyn> apt-get update?
[12:59] <warlock> How to see the load average on the CPU's in total?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> glyn: becasue your version may not be 0.10
[01:00] <n2diy> warlock: top
[01:00] <gnomefreak> glyn: remember your on a version of ubuntu we dont support anymore
[01:00] <glyn> how do I install gstreamer?
[01:00] <glyn> it just keeps telling me it can't find it
[01:00] <warlock> n2diy, how to list the processes by the usage?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> glyn: use synaptic to find your versions of the ones listed on that link i gave you
[01:01] <glyn> k
[01:01] <n2diy> warlock: proc?
[01:01] <matt_> warlock| you can use ps -axf aswell
[01:01] <glyn> I have gstreamer0.8 installed
[01:01] <matt_> well "ps axf"
[01:02] <warlock> 30356 ? S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start -DSSL
[01:02] <warlock> is that normal?
[01:02] <glyn> I swear I Had it working before on hoary just don't remember what I did
[01:03] <warlock> um nvm
[01:03] <warlock> that's the pid, I wanted to list them by the cpu usage they take? :)
[01:04] <bsharitt> Yep, it is indeed the experience ubuntu.ogg, though I didn't try the other, so it could be all ogg theora videos, but I don't feel like crashing Gnome again
[01:04] <pexi> hi, someone had problems with the lastest fglrx drivers version??
[01:05] <pexi> like freeze gdm???
[01:05] <n2diy> warlock: top can list them by cpu usage.
[01:05] <bsharitt> pexi: Does it only do this after updating the drivers?
[01:05] <pexi> yes
[01:06] <pexi> if i use the ald drivers all work good
[01:06] <warlocky> Load Averages 4.45 7.16 8.21 - does this not look much? :o
[01:06] <glyn> how do I install mplayer?
[01:06] <bsharitt> Well after updating to Edgy, gdm pretty much freezes for me, so I have to use kernel 2.6.15-23 from dapper
[01:07] <pexi> i will try this
[01:07] <pexi> maybe is because of this
[01:07] <pexi> bsharitt, thanks
[01:08] <bsharitt> I recompiled the latest Edgy kernel and vanilla kernel, and both times It still freezes
[01:08] <glyn> did everyone forget what they knew about Hoary?  lol
[01:08] <Menisk> I need to setup WPA in ubuntu and the wiki is majorly confusing me.
[01:08] <bsharitt> pexi: is the Ubuntu loading screen gray distorted?
[01:08] <bsharitt> instead of brown
[01:09] <pexi> bsharitt, no, only gdm image
[01:09] <dimitri> has anyone tried to do a LFS? www.linuxfromscratch.org , im a little stuck :( & i cant connect to their irc
[01:09] <bsharitt> pexi, you may have an unrelated problem then
[01:09] <pexi> yes, i think so
[01:10] <dtofre> dimitri, whats your problem?
[01:10] <bsharitt> but I do have 2.6.15-23 with the latest ATI drivers and it works
[01:10] <pexi> ok, i'll try with other kernel
[01:10] <bsharitt> pexi, did you remember to disable the default ubuntu fglrx module?
[01:11] <DarthLappy> dimitri: I don't think you'll get much help here.
[01:11] <dimitri> dtofre, its a simple problem... i cant create a directory. on page 5.3.1
[01:11] <glyn> does anyone know how to install mplayer?
[01:11] <dimitri> mkdir -v ../binutils-build
[01:11] <dimitri> cd ../binutils-build
[01:11] <glyn> or what repositories I need to enable?
[01:11] <dimitri> those 2 commands dont do anything
[01:11] <dimitri> even when i try sudo
[01:11] <j2daosh> Anyone know of a place i can get a text doc with a list of all the words in the english language? i want to write a dictionary app but i REALLY dont want to have to write all the words and definitions i know lol
[01:11] <mrqueen> hello
[01:11] <pexi> glyn, try with www.getautomatix.com
[01:12] <DarthLappy> !automatix
[01:12] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:12] <dtofre> dimitri, i'd assume that those aren't installed then
[01:12] <Menisk> How do I use WPA in ubuntu 6.10 the wiki isn't working for me.
[01:12] <j2daosh> lol
[01:12] <dtofre> dimitri, as they're GNU programs, and not particularly on the linux kernel, it wouldn't suprise me.
[01:12] <dimitri> j2daosh, ubuntu has a dirctionary, ill look for tis location & get back 2 u
[01:12] <n2diy> j2daosh: It has already bean done, google dictionary.
[01:12] <dtofre> Realise that linux isn't an OS ;)
[01:13] <dtofre> It's merely a kernel
[01:13] <j2daosh> n2diy: yeah i know it has been done, but im going to real do it and make it a commandline one
[01:14] <n2diy> j2daosh:ok, good luck.
[01:14] <lipe_> Hi, i need some help to install QT 4.1.4 in Ubuntu ... please ... ! :D
[01:15] <Crypt> hi, can anyone answer a pre-installation question for me?
[01:15] <makuseru> are there any programs for capturing video of the desktop?
[01:15] <pexi> Crypt, ask
[01:15] <lipe_> Hi, i need some help to install QT 4.1.4 in Ubuntu ... please ... ! :D
[01:15] <Alex> G'morning all, anyone know of a jabber server that has group contact lists?
[01:15] <Crypt> since PPC support seems to be like it wont be supported anymore, is it still worth dual booting Ubuntu and OSX?
[01:17] <pexi> Crypt, i think that for ppc maybe is better use debian
[01:17] <j2daosh> crypt, depends on if you have the new dualcore
[01:17] <j2daosh> if you do then ppc isn't an issue for you
[01:17] <Crypt> Dual Core = Intel. I'm running a Powerbook with a G4 PPC processor
[01:17] <pexi> but for now you can try ubuntu, and later go to other distro
[01:18] <lipe_> Hi, i need some help to install QT 4.1.4 in Ubuntu ... please ... ! :D
[01:19] <j2daosh> well you dont be able to do the updates and such... but it shouldn't be a problem really since there wont be anymore ppc systems made...
[01:19] <dtofre> lipe_: www.ubuntuguide.org
[01:19] <glyn> does anyone know the link to the repository I need to add to install mozilla-mplayer for hoary?
[01:19] <n2diy> Crypt: PPC is available from Ship It.
[01:19] <Crypt> I dualbooted with Ubuntu before, but removed it as I wasn't getting as much use and functionality out of it as I thought, but it has come a long way since, but now reading that PPC support will be dropped, I don't know what to do. *Want to try something other than OSX*
[01:20] <j2daosh> crypt, there is a ppc version available for download... but like i said... mac isn't building ppc systems anymore so getting the ppc build should last a while
[01:21] <Crypt> alright, thanks
[01:21] <j2daosh> its not like you can really take your mac apart and replace things since its pretty proprietary, and now they have started using x86 cores so i doubt much change will occur for ppc now
[01:21] <dimitri> j2daosh, goto /usr/share/dict , there is a American & British dictionary's. maybe more if you install in other languages
[01:22] <glyn> guess everyone forgot what they knew about hoary
[01:22] <konsumkind84> hi, and happy new year. how do i install a skin for xmms?
[01:23] <MooUK> OK, I'm getting annoyed with the number of ways I keep finding to restart X by accident :)
[01:23] <makuseru> are there any programs for capturing video of the desktop?
[01:24] <Pensa`MIA> makuseru try istanbul
[01:24] <n2diy> makuseru: mythtv?
[01:24] <makuseru> MooUK: besides ctrl+alt+backspace what else is there
[01:24] <MooUK> well, shift-that-key-next-to1 seems to do it, or somehting close to that
[01:24] <MooUK> and I keep doing it by accident when trying to use exclamation marks
[01:25] <lipe_> Hi, i need some help to install QT 4.1.4 in Ubuntu ... please ... ! :D
[01:25] <lipe_> dtofre: brigadao
[01:25] <MooUK> unless, of course, that combination is doing something else somewhere which breaks X.
[01:25] <dtofre> lipe_: que?
[01:26] <n2diy> !esl
[01:26] <oidia> what lib package dous ioquake requier?
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <n2diy> !es
[01:26] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:26] <phr34ck> Why does Chmod command works, eventhough I'm not using sudo ?
[01:27] <phr34ck> shouldn't be a superuser program ?
[01:27] <makuseru> MooUK: shift+tilda does nothing
[01:27] <dimitri> i just added a new user, but i want to know, if i switch users will all my programs running when i am loged n as this user still be running, so i can swithc back to them? thanks
[01:27] <j2daosh> phr34ck: that depends, are you the owner of the file?
[01:27] <phr34ck> erm, yes
[01:28] <j2daosh> thats why
[01:28] <MooUK> I'm sure I'll find out what exactly I pressed in a bit
[01:28] <j2daosh> you can change your application
[01:28] <phr34ck> I see, thanks.
[01:28] <j2daosh> try it on someone elses file or a systemfile and you will find you need sudo
[01:28] <phr34ck> j2daosh, thanks.
[01:28] <j2daosh> np
[01:28] <phr34ck> That makes sense ;p
[01:28] <gan|y|med> hi
[01:28] <Menisk__> Is anyone here using WPA with ubuntu dapper or edgy? I need help.
[01:28] <gan|y|med> a friend of mine has a problem. he wants to start the kubuntu live-cd (dapper) on a notebook (the same that i have) and the cd seems not to be recognised during boot-up. the boot order is set up properly, the image is burned with nero. the same procedure works with me (same nb model) any ideas?
[01:28] <gan|y|med> other distros don't work either, so it seems to be image unrelated
[01:29] <j2daosh> exact same notebook as you
[01:29] <j2daosh> same disc used in both
[01:29] <j2daosh> works for you and not him
[01:29] <phr34ck> gan|y|med, are you sure you bored the image correctly ?
[01:29] <j2daosh> boot order is set correctly
[01:29] <j2daosh> that should be it
[01:30] <cens0red> jeez
[01:30] <cens0red> how does anybody ever use ardour?
[01:30] <MooUK> Damaged CD drive, gan|y|med?
[01:30] <cens0red> the documentation is incomplete, incomprehensible and outdated.
[01:32] <gan|y|med> yes. another distro does not work either
[01:32] <gan|y|med> the cd drive is not damaged (would be charming the ubuntu image), but sadly (or gladly for him) the winxp cd works
[01:33] <j2daosh> ok i was just about to ask if windows worked
[01:33] <j2daosh> what type of system is it?
[01:33] <j2daosh> and what version of ubuntu you using?
[01:33] <j2daosh> it might not be compatible with some of the hardware, happened with my new c2d system
[01:33] <j2daosh> doesn't like the jmicron raid controller and locks up on loading the livecd
[01:36] <gan|y|med> dapper
[01:36] <gan|y|med> he has the exact same notebook that i have and it works for me
[01:36] <gan|y|med> straight away. bios issue?
[01:36] <j2daosh> doubtful
[01:37] <j2daosh> the only thing that should need to be messed with is the boot order
[01:37] <gan|y|med> but what else could it be. i mean, on this low level everything should be exactly the same
[01:37] <gan|y|med> the cd drive comes first (see winxp cd)
[01:37] <j2daosh> ok
[01:37] <j2daosh> you put the cd in
[01:37] <luiX_> hi
[01:37] <j2daosh> how far does it get?
[01:38] <j2daosh> what does it do?
[01:38] <gan|y|med> nothing
[01:38] <gan|y|med> just starting windows
[01:38] <luiX_> does anyone know what library is needed for using the ipod with listen?
[01:38] <hyphenated> gan|y|med: what type of CD was used? CD-R or CD+R? it's possible his bios doesn't support one of those
[01:39] <j2daosh> hyphenated: he says it is the exact same system and using the exact same cd works
[01:40] <j2daosh> gan|y|med: just for kicks, go into the bios and disable the hard drive from booting
[01:40] <gan|y|med> yes, that is correct. i am on edgy right now
[01:40] <hyphenated> in that case, I'd blame the drive, then the media
[01:40] <j2daosh> then make sure that the cd is the only thing booting
[01:40] <gan|y|med> of course, that is an idea. but i am not sure, that this is possible. but will try
[01:40] <j2daosh> hyphenated: he says the windows disc works
[01:41] <hyphenated> j2daosh: saw that. I'd still blame the drive first, then the media
[01:41] <j2daosh> it should be... where you see the hard disk, just change that to none
[01:41] <j2daosh> then it wont look for it
[01:42] <hyphenated> I don't have any proof whatsoever, but a gut feeling tells me pressed discs are easier for a drive to read than burned ones, which would explain a windows disc working and a burned ubuntu one not working
[01:42] <j2daosh> pressed discs are easier, so maybe he should just get a ship it disc and try
[01:43] <AoA> can somebody paste me cdrom line from sources.list
[01:43] <gan|y|med> you think the windows disk is pressed?
[01:43] <j2daosh> im positive it is
[01:43] <gan|y|med> i am not
[01:43] <j2daosh> as will the "ship-it" discs will also be
[01:43] <hyphenated> gan|y|med: well, we don't know about the one you're using, but in general they are
[01:44] <j2daosh> unless you burned a pirate copy, its pressed
[01:44] <gan|y|med> could we pls skip this topic. i am on linux for a reason
[01:44] <gan|y|med> and i am constantly trying to "convert" people
[01:44] <j2daosh> and that is fine
[01:44] <gan|y|med> god, if i got paid for this
[01:44] <j2daosh> we are trying to figure out why
[01:44] <dtofre> gan|y|med, wow
[01:45] <gan|y|med> ???
[01:45] <kenthomson> My greeting to all! Good <whatever_part_of_day_you_are_in> ! :)
[01:45] <gan|y|med> which was impossible until ubuntu came out, btw
[01:45] <gan|y|med> likewise
[01:46] <hyphenated> gan|y|med: well, if you're going to rule out the drive and the media, then it only leaves planetary alignment, sunspots, blue moons and fungus
[01:46] <maddash> yay, I made it
[01:47] <maddash> hi, does anyone here use fglrx in concert with breezy?
[01:47] <maddash> does anyone here use breezy with the fglrx driver?
[01:47] <kenthomson> how do i check the IRC logs of #ubuntu?
[01:47] <kenthomson> maddash, not me
[01:47] <AoA> can somebody paste me cdrom line from sources.list
[01:47] <gan|y|med> well, that is what i told myself as well. you understand my despair?
[01:47] <thegve> I have a question about SSH. When I am logged in to a server using SSH, line wrapping works a bit strange. All commands remain on one line, I want to just go further on the next line, for better readability.
[01:48] <hyphenated> thegve: try a different terminal emulator
[01:48] <thegve> like?
[01:48] <gan|y|med> AoA: won't help you
[01:48] <gan|y|med> you have to add it with apt-cdrom add
[01:49] <AoA> thanks
[01:49] <hyphenated> thegve: xterm. if it doesn't work right in that one, it could be settings on the remote server affecting how it displays
[01:49] <gan|y|med> np
[01:51] <kenthomson> Where do i get the logs for #ubuntu?
[01:51] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys, In "sessions > Startup programs" it does not seem to save an entry e.g. check-gmail, beryl-manager ...etc can anyone tell me why this is??
[01:51] <gan|y|med> thx a lot. have to work
[01:51] <gan|y|med> cu
[01:52] <thegve> hyphenated: Using xterm it's normal again, thanks for the help. I just used the default gnome-terminal. Strange that the default settings are wrong then. On my local machine (no SSH) gnome-terminal works fine too..
[01:53] <Login7> what is nubuntu?
[01:53] <MeMeMe> ya
[01:53] <MeMeMe> what's this
[01:53] <Paddy_EIRE> !nubuntu
[01:53] <MeMeMe> all about
[01:53] <kenthomson> Paddy_EIRE, those are the programs that are automatically executed/run at startup
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <MeMeMe> eh
[01:53] <hyphenated> thegve: if it annoys you enough, search for a nice pretty one and install that :-)
[01:53] <hyphenated> (xterm is ugly)
[01:53] <thegve> I know
[01:53] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell kenthomson about logs
[01:53] <MeMeMe> are these all bots in here
[01:53] <MeMeMe> or users
[01:53] <Paddy_EIRE> kenthomson: i know this, although it wont remember them
[01:53] <amccausl> thegve: you could try adding -X after the ssh command in the standard gnome terminal
[01:54] <dtofre> MeMeMe, do you have a requirement
[01:54] <hyphenated> MeMeMe: mostly users without anything to say
[01:54] <grimboy> I have several usb external hard drives and I would like them to be mounted to the same place in whatever order they are plugged in.
[01:54] <MeMeMe> and where are the phreakin ops?
[01:54] <kenthomson> grimboy, manually?
[01:54] <Login7> so
[01:54] <kenthomson> !ops | MeMeMe
[01:54] <ubotu> MeMeMe: Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[01:54] <grimboy> KenSentMe, Yeah, with fstab.
[01:54] <hyphenated> MeMeMe: on freenode, people only become ops when they need to be
[01:54] <DBO> yes?
[01:55] <MeMeMe> where is the @ sign
[01:55] <Hobbsee> MeMeMe: what?
[01:55] <kenthomson> DBO, MeMeMe> and where are the phreakin ops?
[01:55] <MeMeMe> ah
[01:55] <DBO> MeMeMe, watch your language please
[01:55] <Madpilot> lots of ops present. MeMeMe, did you have an actual question?
[01:55] <DBO> so Hobbsee...
[01:55] <kenthomson> Hobbsee, :)
[01:55] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:55] <DBO> good miss
[01:55] <hyphenated> I think he was just new to freenode
[01:55] <DBO> MeMeMe didnt use !ops, kenthomson did
[01:55] <Hobbsee> hyphenated: yeah, i just invited him
[01:56] <VMT2007> I have a question about the GPL.
[01:56] <Hobbsee> oh, should i remove him too?
[01:56] <kenthomson> DBO, Hobbsee why do you guys hide?
[01:56] <DBO> kenthomson, we like to pounce
[01:56] <VMT2007> Well, I'll address that elsewhere, meh
[01:56] <Hobbsee> kenthomson: it changes the channel if we're with @'s
[01:56] <kenthomson> DBO, MeMeMe> and where are the phreakin ops?,"what should i have done?"
[01:56] <grimboy> oop, I meant kenthomson
[01:56] <Madpilot> kenthomson, because there's no point in staying op'd when it's not needed
[01:56] <Hobbsee> kenthomson: say "they're around, watching" or something
[01:56] <kenthomson> DBO, :)
[01:56] <Login7> ssssssssssssssss
[01:56] <kenthomson> Hobbsee, Hmm...
[01:56] <hyphenated> VMT2007: it's probably answered better and more accurately on a website somewhere than a person in an IRC channel could answer it
[01:57] <Hobbsee> it's Trevinho!
[01:57] <thegve> amccausl: Strange, now it doesn't happen anymore, even in gnome-terminal (logged out, logged in with -X, was OK, logged out, logged in without -X) I have this problem much more often...
[01:57] <VMT2007> hyphenated: yeah
[01:57] <MooUK> If it's about the GPL in general, VMT2007, the FSF's website probably answers it.
[01:57] <MooUK> and if not, ask them.
[01:58] <Trevinho> Hobbsee: :o
[01:58] <grimboy> Is there a way to mount a device in a specific place based on a hardware id?
[01:58] <grimboy> (i.e. a device specific id)
[01:58] <frying_fish> grimboy: yes
[01:58] <frying_fish> edgy does it by default
[01:58] <kenthomson> HELP: I want to use shockwave with Firefox. and i have read (!shockwave) and done what they said there, still it doesn;t help!
[01:59] <grimboy> frying_fish, I have some usb hard disks. How do I find out their id?
[01:59] <grimboy> s
[01:59] <frying_fish> google udev rule creation, and look for how to use udevinfo, it will give everything you need.
[02:00] <grimboy> Thank you
[02:00] <kenthomson>  HELP: I want to use shockwave with Firefox. and i have read (!shockwave) and done what they said there, still it doesn;t help!
[02:03] <fromvega> Hello!
[02:04] <kenthomson> No-one can help me set shockwave?
[02:04] <cafuego_> Linxu doesn't do shockwave, only flash.
[02:05] <matti> Shockwave is to shocking for linux ;p
[02:06] <kenthomson> matt_, make that ;p ---> :(
[02:06] <fromvega> I have configure a server with iptables and squid proxy. The problem now is that I can't access a URL: "https://www.voegol.com.br/boleto/santander/boleto.exe?pger=USSUP\RVQSPT&datadoc=". I thought it might be because of HTTPS but I can access other HTTPS urls. Do you have any idea? Is it SQUID or IPTABLES fault?
[02:07] <I_am_the_nick> Hi from a new ubuntu-user!
[02:08] <sivaji_2009> " The process for the system protocol died unexpectedly" i cant open any folder
[02:08] <domanna> hi. i`m looking for native english language speaker that uses skype. i don`t want only to talk about linux
[02:09] <I_am_the_nick> Right now I'm "playing" with the live-CD and it seems to be working perfectly!
[02:09] <MooUK> Excellent, I_am_the_nick
[02:09] <sivaji_2009> " The process for the system protocol died unexpectedly" i cant open any folder
[02:09] <I_am_the_nick> I'm using firefox/chatzilla, just like on Windows
[02:10] <Rainbyte_> hi! I have a problem with a tv card
[02:10] <I_am_the_nick> So bye bye Windows, HALLO Linux !!!
[02:10] <Rainbyte_> its an enltv and its based on saa7134
[02:11] <Rainbyte_> but when i load saa7134, xvideo stop working properly
[02:11] <kenthomson> domanna, most of the people here talk english
[02:12] <MooUK> I_am_the_nick: you always keep learning. That's perhaps one of the best bits of life. :)
[02:12] <I_am_the_nick> Agreed :)
[02:12] <kenthomson> MooUK, and Linux :)
[02:13] <I_am_the_nick> I have put off migration to Linux for too long already ...
[02:13] <I_am_the_nick> ... so it's about time.
[02:13] <kenthomson> NO-one can help me with shockwave?
[02:14] <MooUK> Aha!
[02:14] <MooUK> Now I know exactly what it was I was pressing :)
[02:14] <grimboy> kenthomson, All you can do is use wine/cxoffice or send something to adobe. Shockwave is dead.
[02:14] <MooUK> shift-backspace.
[02:14] <MooUK> now... is that supposed to restart X, or is it breaking something?
[02:14] <kenthomson> grimboy, i am using wine and following (!shocwave's instructions) but still i am stuck somewhere, if you have done the config, maybe you could help me
[02:14] <QwertyM> Anyone have a good link on configuring DCC to work properly in XChat? I just cant transfer files over IRC :(
[02:15] <AfterDeath> QwertyM: you probably need to set up port forwarding
[02:15] <grimboy> MooUK, ctrl-alt-backspace restarts X.
[02:15] <QwertyM> AfterDeath, and that'd do?
[02:15] <MooUK> I knew that, grimboy. However, shift-backspace appears to be as well.
[02:16] <Rainbyte_> kenthomson, i'm using shockwave with firefox and wine, and it works
[02:16] <MooUK> and I keep accidentally pressing shift-backspace
[02:16] <grimboy> Really? I'll have a test.
[02:16] <MooUK> and it definitely is that this time
[02:16] <AfterDeath> QwertyM: it would forward the ports that X-Chat needs open for DCc - it's a need to configure your router
[02:16] <grimboy> MooUK, Not for me.
[02:16] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, Could you please help me? I am stuck.
[02:16] <MooUK> hmm
[02:16] <MooUK> which suggests that somewhere something is set to respond to shift-backspace and is breaking.
[02:16] <kenthomson> !x > ken
[02:16] <QwertyM> AfterDeath, okay, I'll forward the ports and try, thanks :)
[02:16] <Rainbyte_> did you try with wine?
[02:17] <kenthomson> !shockwave
[02:17] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[02:17] <grimboy> MooUK, Look at gnome's keyboard shortcuts.
[02:17] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, i tried WINE and everything that is given in the write-up at the above link, still it doesn't work
[02:18] <newbie07> I'm still not sure whether to install Ubuntu or Debian ...
[02:18] <newbie07> Ubuntu is probably better for a newbie ...
[02:18] <Rainbyte_> ok, i installed wine, an then i download firefox for windows and intalled it with wine
[02:18] <fowlduck> yeah
[02:18] <MooUK> Can't see anything there, grimboy, that uses shift-backspace
[02:19] <VincentMX> hi
[02:19] <fowlduck> ubuntu is an easier debian, pretty much
[02:19] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, yeah i did that too
[02:19] <MooUK> there's a logout option but it's disabled.
[02:19] <fowlduck> with a larger and more friendly community
[02:19] <Rainbyte_> then i download shockwave and installed it too
[02:19] <newbie07> yeah, I'll go for Ubuntu
[02:19] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, I installed WINE, downloaded a Firefox.exe, and installed that through wine, than i opened the windows version of firefox through wine, and went to a site requiring shockwave and downloaded and installed it
[02:19] <newbie07> works perfectly right now ...
[02:19] <grimboy> newbie07, Hurrah!
[02:20] <Rainbyte_> yes i did the same
[02:20] <dooglus> can somebody help me get my 3rd speaker working with ubuntu please?
[02:20] <dooglus> this laptop has 3 speakers, but only 2 of them work
[02:20] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, what did you do afterwards?
[02:21] <grimboy> dooglus, Not saying nobody in here can/will help but hardware specific stuff like that really is a google job. Actually, check the ubuntu wiki first.
[02:21] <Rainbyte_> when i enter to a page that required shockwave, firefox installed the plugin without my help
[02:21] <grimboy> dooglus, Search for the laptop model.
[02:23] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, Did you install the shockwave plugin in the firefox running through WINE or the ubuntu's firefox
[02:24] <Rainbyte_> running through wine
[02:25] <Rainbyte_> for me the difficult part was installing wine, because i'm usingkubuntu for amd64
[02:25] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, after that you closed the wine's firefox and all the firefoxes that are there :). Is there anything that you did after that?
[02:25] <phr34ck> !eclipse
[02:25] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[02:26] <kenthomson> phr34ck, "!eclipse > phr34ck " would have been better :)
[02:26] <phr34ck> kenthomson, indeed.
[02:26] <phr34ck> but I cannot find the package, why is that?
[02:26] <Rainbyte_> i closed wine's firefox and i didn't do anything more
[02:26] <phr34ck> I have all repo. enabled.
[02:26] <kenthomson> phr34ck, "sudo apt-get install eclipse"
[02:26] <phr34ck> when I write: sudo apt-get install ecplise, it says that the package does not exist.
[02:27] <phr34ck> that's what I'm writting yes.
[02:27] <PeDePano> phr34ck, have you tried aptitude install eclipse?
[02:27] <phr34ck> ahh silly me, typ ;p
[02:27] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, So now if you open anything in ubuntu's firefox that required shockwave, how do you (automatically) switch to wine's firefox? Or what do you do to run something that requires shockwave?
[02:27] <phr34ck> tupo*
[02:27] <dooglus> grimboy: there's nothing on the ubuntu wiki about it
[02:27] <dooglus> grimboy: the laptop's model is "W1J"
[02:28] <phr34ck> owh dear ... 117 mb of downloads.
[02:28] <phr34ck> That will take a day ;p
[02:28] <Rainbyte_> no no, when i need shockwave or flash i use wine's firefox
[02:28] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, i want that task automated
[02:28] <idleone> phr34ck: you sure you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[02:29] <MooUK> well, I guessed that it could have been some random compix.XGL shortcut that was breaking somewhere. but I've searched all the config options and found nothing using that.
[02:29] <MooUK> (the problem, again: shift-backspace appears to be restarting X and shouldn't be)
[02:29] <Rainbyte_> i you want to use shockwave with ubuntu's firefox you need crossoffice 6
[02:30] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, according the the guide at (!shockwave), they use something called mozplugger in ubuntu that makes the task of opening wine's firefox automated when anything requiring shockwave is loaded
[02:30] <snoops> hey - I'm looking at getting a bluetooth dongle and wanted to know if there are any prefered brands etc to go for?
[02:31] <MooUK> aha!
[02:31] <MooUK> I tried googling again and found the answer; shift-backspace restarts XGL.
[02:31] <dooglus> is there some way to find out what sound card is inside my laptop?
[02:32] <snoops> there's a quick fix for that MooUK
[02:32] <MooUK> yup
[02:32] <MooUK> found it in the same place.
[02:32] <Rainbyte_> i didn't try with mozplugger
[02:33] <stefg> dooglus: see what lspci tells you
[02:33] <jasin> hi
[02:34] <Rainbyte_> kenthomson, so you have firefox installed with wine, and it works, but you cant open shockwave animations with ubuntu's firefox?
[02:34] <dooglus> stefg: lspci tells me "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)" - but it's not fully working, and I guess that's because lspci has guessed wrongly - could it be?
[02:35] <stefg> sounds plausible
[02:35] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, ya
[02:35] <adam98971> i have a question if anyone cars to answer it i have 512 ram should i wait till i get more to set up XGL/Compiz
[02:35] <dooglus> stefg: Windows tells me it's a Realtek something
[02:35] <adam98971> cares
[02:35] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, and according to that article WINE's firefox should be automatically opened when something with shockwave is encountered in Ubuntu's FF
[02:36] <Some_Person> Ok, I now have Ubuntu set up to my liking, now, whats something cool to do with it?
[02:36] <Rainbyte_> dooglus, intel ich7 uses realtek's chips
[02:36] <stefg> dooglus: win calls it be chipset, linux by pci-id... that's no contradiction
[02:36] <adam98971> 3ddek or XGL/Compiz
[02:36] <dooglus> ok, so now I know what it is, how can I get the center speaker to work?
[02:37] <MooUK> Some_Person: Well, what sort of things do you want your computer for? Games? Work? Music? Just think of something and you can then spend a while wokring out how to do it on ubuntu :)
[02:37] <Some_Person> no games i have work with ubuntu
[02:37] <Some_Person> work? i
[02:37] <Some_Person> i'm 13 years old
[02:37] <jasin> dooglus, sounds like you got things hooked up wrong because it should just work.
[02:37] <oidia> Some_Person: not all games work with ubuntu...
[02:37] <Rainbyte_> kenthomson, did you set the correct path to wine's firefox?
[02:37] <Some_Person> music? yes, i've got rhythmbox set up like itunes on windows
[02:38] <dooglus> jasin: I didn't hook anything up, I just installed from a CD
[02:38] <jasin> gaming is linux is spares/
[02:38] <dooglus> jasin: it's the same if I install debian, too
[02:38] <stefg> !sound | dooglus
[02:38] <ubotu> dooglus: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:38] <jasin> dooglus, speakers have to be hooked up
[02:38] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, I don't know how to do that, so i just copied-pasted what they give me at that articel
[02:38] <dooglus> jasin: it's a laptop
[02:38] <jasin> dooglus, I see.
[02:38] <oidia> how do i change keymap in eterm?
[02:38] <dooglus> jasin: the speakers are built in
[02:38] <jasin> and you got a center speaker on the laptop? Nice
[02:38] <Rainbyte_> dooglus, did you try with .asoundrc in your homes directory?
[02:39] <dooglus> jasin: there's a sub-woofer on the bottom of the case
[02:39] <jasin> dooglus, nice, what kind of laptop is this?
[02:39] <dooglus> Rainbyte_: try what with it?
[02:39] <dooglus> jasin: it's http://www.funponsel.com/blog/archives/2006/06/24/asus-w1j-laptop-with-integrated-tv-tuner/
[02:39] <Karbaaros> Urf.  I've been trying to get this webcam working for hours
[02:39] <jasin> dooglus, do as they are saying, make sure alsa is installed and working properly, make sure its enabled if its already installed.
[02:39] <jasin> dooglus, sounds heavy
[02:40] <Some_Person> its funny how upgrading to edgy made networking magically work, while in dapper, i couldnt get it to work
[02:40] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, it actually is "/home/ken/.wine/drive_c\Program\ Files/Mozilla\ Firefox/firefox.exe"
[02:40] <howieson27> !de
[02:40] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:40] <dooglus> jasin: it's quite light.  the case is carbon fibre I think
[02:40] <adam98971> some person: for most games to work like WOW ur going to need Cedega its 5 dollars a month for 3 months ask your parents for the money i really think its the easiest way http://www.transgaming.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&file=index&func=display&ceid=29
[02:41] <Rainbyte_> kenthomson, yes, the path is ok
[02:41] <jasin> some_person, eddgy has better hardware support
[02:41] <jasin> dooglus, nice :)
[02:41] <HeavyJay> Does anybody know of any drivers that work for quite a few USB webcams?  I don't know the model (it has a GE logo on it, but apparently it wasn't made by GE), so I've tried quickcam and spca5xx
[02:41] <dooglus> jasin: both left and right speakers work with alsa, esd, arts, oss or whatever else I try.  but the volume control is labelled 'front', rather than 'pcm' which I'm used to seeing on other installs
[02:41] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, should i put that in "etc/mozpluggerrc"?
[02:41] <HeavyJay> No positives so far
[02:42] <dooglus> jasin: the fact that it knows there's a "front" speaker makes me think it's somehow just got it's "wires crossed"
[02:42] <IdleOne> !webcam | HeavyJay
[02:42] <ubotu> HeavyJay: webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:43] <Some_Person> its just like upgrading from breezy to dapper magically made my sound card work
[02:43] <Rainbyte_> replace wine "C:\\Program Files\\Mozilla Firefox\\firefox.exe" with wine /home/ken/.wine/drive_c\Program\ Files/Mozilla\ Firefox/firefox.exe
[02:43] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, currently when i visit any site with shockwave, wine's version of firefox automatically opens and asks me "You have chose to open 01f5abc2d01, whic is a:application/octet-stream, from Z:\home\ken\mozilla\firefox\sqthajiy.defaukt\cache, what should firefox do with this file? open with, save to disk ?"
[02:43] <dooglus> Rainbyte_: what are you suggesting I should do with .asoundrc?
[02:44] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, Are you sure that, THAT file can understand forward slashes"/" like you are suggesting instead of the ones given at the ubuntu site, which are "\"?
[02:44] <Rainbyte_> kenthomson, open
[02:44] <newbie07> how do I play .wmv files?
[02:45] <IdleOne> !multimedia | newbie07
[02:45] <ubotu> newbie07: For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[02:45] <Rainbyte_> dooglus, i modified .asoundrc to use 5.1 with my sound card
[02:45] <newbie07> cheers!
[02:45] <dooglus> Rainbyte_: using asoundconf?  or how?
[02:46] <dooglus> Rainbyte_: I currently don't even have a .asoundrc file, you see
[02:46] <kenthomson> kenthomson, what is "open"?
[02:46] <Rainbyte_> no, you have to open or create a file in your home's directory called .asoundrc
[02:46] <bsharitt> When ever I try Edgy, the boot screen is gray and distorted and then it freezes when gdm starts. It still works on my Dapper kernel. Any thoughts?
[02:46] <Rainbyte_> kenthomson, wine understand / and \
[02:47] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, ok :), let me change and see
[02:47] <Rainbyte_> dooglus, try to create a file called .asoundrc and add this lines to it:
[02:47] <Rainbyte_> pcm.!default {
[02:47] <Rainbyte_> 	type plug
[02:47] <Rainbyte_> 	slave.pcm surround51
[02:47] <Rainbyte_> 	slave.channels 6
[02:47] <Rainbyte_> 	route_policy duplicate
[02:47] <Rainbyte_> }
[02:48] <jasin> dooglus, could be but I bet its something funny like how you got the speakers confiqured
[02:48] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, in a terminal i on doing "cd <that_path_i_mentioned>", get " No such file or directory"
[02:48] <dooglus> jasin: I've not got the speakers configured - they're inside the case, and I can't get to them at all
[02:49] <IdleOne> did a fresh install last night. got all codecs installed but still no sound from mozilla browser. any suggestions? ( also installed alsa-oss package )
[02:49] <Rainbyte_> kenthomson, try CD /home/ken/.wine/drive_c\Program\ Files/Mozilla\ Firefox/
[02:49] <burepe> I am trying to change the default port in rtorrent but I am having some trouble. Anyone have experience with rtorrent
[02:49] <burepe> ?
[02:49] <Rainbyte_> sorry, cd /home/ken/.wine/drive_c\Program\ Files/Mozilla\ Firefox/
[02:50] <jasin> dooglus, naw, how you have them confiqured in linux, I bet you need ti enabe full duplex and surround sound.
[02:50] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, "no such file or dir"
[02:50] <Vorbote> burepe: changing the port in rtorrent is a simple matter of setting it in ~/.rtorrentrc
[02:50] <Rainbyte_> kenthomson, and with  cd /home/ken/.wine/drive_c
[02:51] <burepe> Vorbote: oh
[02:51] <burepe> I will try it
[02:51] <dooglus> jasin: heh, ok, I'll do that then.
[02:51] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, "no such file or dir"
[02:51] <dooglus> !enable-full-duplex-and-that
[02:51] <chris> Hi, I am struggling to configure my wireless card on IBM T23 laptop, can anyone help?
[02:52] <stefg> !wifi | chris
[02:52] <ubotu> chris: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:52] <biotrox> hello all
[02:52] <chris> ok thanks, will check that
[02:52] <biotrox> happy new year
[02:52] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, when i manually navigate to that folder in firefox and do a "pwd" i get "/home/ken/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Mozilla Firefox"
[02:52] <Vorbote> burepe: do rean the man page, I'm not recalling the exact name. It is important to note, though, that the port is defined as a range, If you want to use a single port only, just repeat the number as in "1000-1000"
[02:52] <jasin> dooglus, try like rain said, that should force alsa
[02:53] <bsharitt> When ever I try Edgy, the boot screen is gray and distorted and then it freezes when gdm starts. It still works on my Dapper kernel. Any thoughts?
[02:53] <Rainbyte_> kenthomson, try cd ~/.wine
[02:53] <adam98971> how much ram should i have for XGL/Compiz
[02:54] <IdleOne> !xgl | adam98971
[02:54] <ubotu> adam98971: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:54] <jasin> http://alsa.opensrc.org/.asoundrc
[02:54] <UnholyGodn> hey
[02:54] <burepe> Vorbote: I am not seeing that in the man page. It has commands for settings which I tried and didn't seem to work
[02:54] <jasin> !asoundrc
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asoundrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <IdleOne> adam98971: read that link from ubotu it might tell you what is recommended
[02:54] <jasin> !alsa
[02:54] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:54] <biotrox> can ubuntu be a hotspot server..?
[02:54] <biotrox> like mikrotik..?
[02:54] <biotrox> !hotspot
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotspot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <Vorbote> burepe: What I did was to copy the global file in /etc and edit it to my liking.
[02:55] <adam98971> idleone: it does not
[02:55] <jasin> !alsa  | dooglus
[02:55] <ubotu> dooglus: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:55] <IdleOne> adam98971: 512mb ram should be sufficient I would guess
[02:55] <UnholyGodn> Hey I'm a total Linux noob and I just installed Ubuntu 6.10and it all works perfect, I installed the latest Video Drivers and it all seems fine, but when i try and open the Confirguration program from the menu I get the error "Details: Failed to execute child process "fireglcontrolpanel (No such file or directory)"
[02:55] <jasin> 512 is plenty
[02:55] <dooglus> !info alsa
[02:55] <ubotu> Package alsa does not exist in any distro I know
[02:55] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, this works "cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Mozilla\ Firefox". Should i add it to "/etc/mozpluggerrc"? And do you have any idea why "/home/ken/*" didn'y work?
[02:55] <adam98971> idleone: thank you im going to try to set it up now i will tell u guys (and girls) the results
[02:56] <Vorbote> burepe: but do take note of the settings file name. I can't recall if the personal settings file is called .rtorrentrc or .rtorrent.rc :-)
[02:56] <IdleOne> adam98971:  :)
[02:56] <HeavyJay> Cam isn't supported by easycam2...guess I'm screwed
[02:56] <Rainbyte_> kenthomson, yes, try to add that
[02:56] <kenthomson> adam98971, remove "(girls)" from that string :)
[02:56] <HeavyJay> IdleOne, I appreciate your help though
[02:56] <UnholyGodn> Can someone please help me? I've tried google and I couldn't find anything that helped :(
[02:56] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, ok, lets see, thank you for your help, it is much appreciated :)
[02:56] <IdleOne> HeavyJay: np sorry to hear. cams are pretty cheap though see if you cant get one that is supported
[02:57] <kenthomson> UnholyGodn, what program exactly?
[02:57] <UnholyGodn> the ATI Control
[02:57] <UnholyGodn> thats what it's called on the menu
[02:57] <burepe> Vorbote: thanks
[02:57] <Vorbote> burepe: you're welcome
[02:58] <Rainbyte_> did anyone try the modules of linuxtv? (v4l-dvb)
[02:58] <kenthomson> UnholyGodn, Sorry i don't know
[02:59] <UnholyGodn> Damn :(
[02:59] <kenthomson> UnholyGodn, Did you read this?
[02:59] <kenthomson> !ati
[02:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:59] <burepe> Vorbote: I cant find the file at ~/ is there another place it might be?
[02:59] <UnholyGodn> it installed perfectly and is working perfect
[02:59] <UnholyGodn> just the control thing wont open
[02:59] <kenthomson> UnholyGodn, maybe you messed up one of the config steps, try re-reading it to see if there's workaround in that wiki
[02:59] <kenthomson> UnholyGodn, best of luck!
[03:00] <Vorbote> burepe: that's a shorcut for the root of your hoem directory (most shells understand it)
[03:00] <Rainbyte_> unholygodn, try this:
[03:00] <Rainbyte_> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page
[03:00] <UnholyGodn> it was a pretty simple process thats why I cant work out what I did wrong :/
[03:01] <PeDePano> !br
[03:01] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:01] <Menisk> How do I connect to my wep encrypted network in ubntu 6.10?
[03:01] <stefg> !wifi | Menisk
[03:01] <ubotu> Menisk: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:02] <GZT> hello everyone
[03:02] <kenthomson> !hi | GZT
[03:02] <ubotu> GZT: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:02] <Vorbote> burepe: just copy /etc/rtorrentrc to your home directory, edit it and rename it to ".rtorrentrc" (or is it ".rtorrent.rc" when you are done (I haven't used rtorrent for a long while now, rather using Torrent under wine, the latest version from the official repositories, btw)
[03:02] <Rainbyte_> hi GZT
[03:02] <GZT> thanks =)
[03:02] <GZT> I have questions, rather advanced ones
[03:03] <stefg> !ask
[03:03] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:03] <GZT> concerning andLinux but since it's Xubuntu it should work :)
[03:03] <IdleOne> stefg: other night you helped me out with sound in browser. told me to install aoss and then I needed to edit a line in a file cant remember what file it was.
[03:03] <Vorbote> GZT, you don't need to ask permission to ask and we are not psychic. Just shoot your questions to the air and someone will answer if he/she know.
[03:03] <Menisk> Thanks stephg
[03:03] <GZT> :P
[03:03] <Vorbote> knows
[03:03] <GZT> so anyway, first one:
[03:03] <GZT> I don't like running as root
[03:04] <IdleOne> stefg: least I think it was you
[03:04] <GZT> I've set up a regular user acct
[03:04] <stefg> IdleOne: it might have been setting up an env-variable FIREFOX_DSP in .bashrc
[03:04] <IdleOne> stefg:  nope that wasnt it :/
[03:04] <GZT> now I need to be able to log IN
[03:05] <stefg> !root | GZT
[03:05] <ubotu> GZT: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:05] <IdleOne> stefg:  all I did was install alsa-oss and then changed "none" to "aoss" in a file but what file I dont remember
[03:05] <GZT> so what I'm asking is what file should I modify to display the login screen when I fire it up
[03:05] <GZT> < stefg > that easy?
[03:05] <GZT> lol
[03:05] <Vorbote> GZT: ubuntu by default has a disabled root account. That is no password. The first account created during install has access to sudo for admin work.
[03:06] <GZT> right, but remember that this is andLinux and a lot of stuff is automated
[03:06] <Cklausz> Hello there,
[03:06] <Cklausz> In Ubuntu 6.10 the xdg-utils package by Freedesktop Foundation's Portland Project is not installed by default. Will this change in further releases of Ubuntu?
[03:06] <GZT> I'm basically trying to manually hack the startup stuff so I can get it to do things normally
[03:06] <Vorbote> GZT: on logging in as root. That's entirely overrated.
[03:07] <GZT> right, and I hate it
[03:07] <GZT> I'd rather use a normal acct
[03:07] <GZT> problem is, andLinux automatically logs in as root
[03:07] <GZT> I want to figure out how to change that
[03:08] <burepe> Vorbote: Yeah I got the location but I can't find the file.
[03:08] <Vorbote> GZT: What do you mean? Are you selecting the reacue mode line in grub or somehting like that? That's single user mode...
[03:08] <GZT> no, here's what happens:
[03:08] <GZT> andLinux is that Xubuntu that runs on top of windows
[03:08] <GZT> modified kernel, etc
[03:09] <GZT> it does a LOT of things automatically that I dont like
[03:09] <GZT> like logging in as root
[03:09] <Vorbote> burepe: do a "dpkg -L rtorrent" That'll give you the list of installed files. Perhaps the packaging version you have dropped a copy in /usr/share/rtorrent or similar.
[03:09] <GZT> starting xfce without other things like xfwm4
[03:09] <GZT> I need to basically know which file is responsible for startup stuff
[03:10] <GZT> and setting things in the 'sessions' dialog does nothing
[03:10] <burepe> Vorbote: nice
[03:10] <GZT> including that annoying auto-login
[03:11] <burepe> /usr/share/doc/rtorrent/examples/rtorrent.rc
[03:11] <GZT> too bad LordDavon dosen't frequent the forums much anymore, I'd ask him
[03:11] <GZT> he's the maintainer for andLinux
[03:11] <Vorbote> GZT: I see what you mean, but your perception (or at least your description of it) is incorrect. What starts up at boot time is the session manager, gdm in the case of x/ubuntu, And the session manager does need to run as root, but it is not accessible remotely by default.
[03:12] <GZT> problem is, the wm wont load automatically
[03:12] <GZT> I have to manually load it after it's booted up
[03:12] <Shay-ubuntu> I have a noobish question... would appriciate your help
[03:12] <GZT> until I do, I have no window decorations, controls, etc
[03:12] <Cklausz> Don't you have any idea?
[03:12] <ndlovu> hi all. I can make a bluetooth connection to my mobile phone, but it seems to die after like a second. any ideas why?
[03:13] <Vorbote> GZT: that sonds like there is a problem with the installation. Have you tried a "sudo apt-get install -f"? That would fix any broken package.
[03:13] <GZT> yes, and all seems well
[03:13] <GZT> no errors
[03:13] <GZT> like I said, it's Xubuntu with a modded kernel
[03:14] <GZT> made to run on top of windows
[03:14] <biotrox> hexidigital | vino is just for server only, if for remote only..?
[03:14] <jengc0il> help
[03:14] <jengc0il> how to open vcd
[03:14] <jengc0il> in ubuntu
[03:14] <Rainbyte_> gzt, did you try to run sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager?
[03:14] <GZT> its very cool and just about everything works, just I need to know the primary startup file to modify
[03:14] <GZT> hey, that might work :D
[03:14] <GZT> I'll try it
[03:15] <cyber_brain_mfkg> some suggestions for cd catalog(for gnome)???i want to organize my discs!
[03:15] <hexidigital> !vncviewer
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vncviewer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <jengc0il> nothlit: help me
[03:15] <hexidigital> biotrox::  vncviewer
[03:15] <Vorbote> GZT: yup alternatives are the bane of my existence...
[03:15] <GZT> heh
[03:15] <Cklausz> I'll try it again:
[03:15] <Cklausz> Hello there,
[03:15] <Cklausz> In Ubuntu 6.10 the xdg-utils package by Freedesktop Foundation's Portland Project is not installed by default. Will this change in further releases of Ubuntu?
[03:16] <biotrox> hexidigital | GUI base vncviewer...? like KRDC
[03:16] <GZT> I'm launching it now, it'll just take a sec :D
[03:16] <hexidigital> biotrox::  no, vncviewer is the name of the gnome app
[03:16] <Rainbyte_> jengc0il, did you try with totem?
[03:16] <Vorbote> Cklausz: I doubt it, not until it is tested in Debian at least.
[03:16] <hexidigital> biotrox::  i dont remember the command to connect since i haven't used it in quite some time
[03:17] <biotrox> hexidigital | that's ok
[03:17] <blekos> happy new year
[03:17] <hexidigital> biotrox::  lemme google, brb
[03:17] <blekos> got a slight problem with the nvidia drivers
[03:17] <Vorbote> Cklausz: Although it is an interesting idea, LSB 3.2 ain't finished yet.
[03:17] <blekos> i've install the glx
[03:18] <cyber_brain_mfkg> some suggestions for cd catalog(for gnome)???i want to organize my discs!???
[03:18] <blekos> but when I try to install the nvidia-settings it probs me to remove the nvidia-glx
[03:18] <hexidigital> biotrox::  are you in gnome now?
[03:18] <biotrox> hexidigital | yes
[03:19] <hexidigital> biotrox::  the command is "vncviewer {host_ip}:1" without quotes
[03:19] <hexidigital> biotrox::  ie, vncviewer myserver.com:1
[03:19] <biotrox> hexidigital | ooo oke, many many thanks
[03:19] <hexidigital> biotrox::  you're welcome
[03:20] <humbolto> how to best install ruby on rails on an ubuntu system?
[03:20] <humbolto> which packages should I use gem for and for which dpkg?
[03:20] <QwertyM> anyone on a nforce 430 here?
[03:21] <Menisk> I'm having trouble getting my WEP encryted network to work under ubuntu 6.10 and the wikis are not helping much.
[03:21] <ba5e> does anyone know where the Java Console Log file is saved?
[03:22] <hexidigital> biotrox::  also give this a look... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[03:22] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, now that i changed that path, when i visit any shockwave sites, WINE doesn't even open firefox.exe, but before it used to open firefox.exe, and open a dialog box asking me what to do with a <numbers_here> object?
[03:22] <Genrl_Zod> sup geeks check this shit out
[03:22] <Genrl_Zod> http://spikedhumor.com/articles/76054/Office_Wanker_Caught_On_Tape.html
[03:22] <Genrl_Zod> funny as hell.
[03:23] <jengc0il> Rainbyte_: yeah but error with decoder
[03:24] <ba5e> anyone know the Java console log file location??
[03:24] <Menisk> I'm having trouble getting my WEP encryted network to work under ubuntu 6.10 and the wikis are not helping much can someone help?
[03:25] <Rainbyte_> jengc0il, maybe you need codecs
[03:25] <kenthomson> !wifi | Menisk
[03:25] <ubotu> Menisk: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:25] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, Did you read my query?
[03:25] <Rainbyte_> kenthomson, wine "C:\\Program Files\\Mozilla Firefox\\firefox.exe"
[03:25] <Menisk> kenthomson, the wikia aren't helping.
[03:25] <sint> hey, i have an nvidia riva 128. can i use the nivida driver with this card?
[03:25] <sint> the system is using another one
[03:25] <Rainbyte_> like in the howto
[03:25] <kenthomson> Menisk, please don't address me, i don't know anything
[03:26] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, that was what was in the howto, and that was what i did, before trying anything else, but that didn;t work
[03:26] <Menisk> Kenthomson, sorry I've just been working on this for a while and want to throw the computer through the window.
[03:26] <RingDonut> Hi
[03:26] <Cypher> hi any one have Anonymous proxy website
[03:27] <Cypher> hi any one have Anonymous proxy website
[03:27] <kenthomson> Menisk, be considerate about people down in the street :)
[03:27] <RingDonut> http://www.7eth.com is a good proxy
[03:27] <RingDonut> Hi, can I ask a question?
[03:27] <Menisk> kenthomsan, I am. Everyone wants a free computer.
[03:27] <Menisk> :P
[03:28] <RingDonut> Anyone here heard of reconstructor?
[03:28] <Rainbyte_> kenthomson, i don't have anwsers for the problem
[03:28] <Cypher> its blocked
[03:28] <Cypher> is ther any free shell servers
[03:28] <RingDonut> Cypher; trying to evade school filters? lol
[03:28] <hexidigital> !justask | RingDonut
[03:28] <ubotu> RingDonut: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:29] <Cypher> RingDount: yeah
[03:29] <Cypher> RingDount: they block the good stuff
[03:29] <hexidigital> RingDonut::  sorry, wrong person/channel
[03:29] <KenSentMe> I use wpa_supplicant.conf to connect to my wireless network at work. Is there a gnome tool that i can use to connect to this network with the settings in wpa_supplicant.conf?
[03:29] <PRAEDO> hello
[03:29] <RingDonut> Cypher: try Googling Free Proxy
[03:29] <PRAEDO> anyone here?
[03:29] <PRAEDO> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:29] <PRAEDO> i get this
[03:29] <Rainbyte_> kenthomson, wait, maybe if you change "file://Z:$file"  with "$file"
[03:29] <PRAEDO> what package am i missing?
[03:29] <ba5e> TOR
[03:29] <RingDonut> Where can I get usplash-dev?
[03:29] <Cypher> a.out the default output
[03:30] <jengc0il> !easyubuntu
[03:30] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[03:30] <adam98971> were do i put the startup script for compiz plugins
[03:31] <RingDonut> So I can get usplash-dev from EasyUbuntu?
[03:31] <RingDonut> Because I REALLY need usplash-dev
[03:31] <chris> Hi I am struggling to configure wifi card on IBM T23, have tried ubuntu wifi wiki and googled various things, still no luck.
[03:32] <Cypher> thanx man
[03:32] <alecjw> chris: what card is it?
[03:32] <RingDonut> Cypher: its OK
[03:32] <RingDonut> ; )
[03:33] <chris>  Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01)
[03:33] <chris> worked fine with hoary
[03:33] <chris> am using edgy now
[03:33] <Rainbyte_> jengc0il, http://www.guia-ubuntu.org/index.php/Instalar_codecs_multimedia
[03:33] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, And can you tell me what "change "file://Z:$file"  with "$file"" will do?
[03:33] <alecjw> chris: dunno anything about prisms. sorry :(
[03:33] <chris> ok
[03:33] <chris> np
[03:33] <abramhollon> i have a 'stupid user' mistake
[03:34] <abramhollon> i removed my trash can from the desktop
[03:34] <alecjw> abramhollon: right click on the panel where you want it, and click on add to panel and click on trash can.
[03:34] <Keeguon> I compiled banshee from svn but I can't play any songs, when I double-click on a song the play icon appears but the timeline doesn't move... any ideas?
[03:34] <RingDonut> Argh! Can I use usplash-dev from edgy for dapper?
[03:35] <levander> When I leave firefox up and going for a long time, like for a couple of days, it crashes on me and I get some Gnome dialog asking me if I want to re-open it.  Does anyone else get this?
[03:35] <Keeguon> RingDonut: I don't think so
[03:35] <abramhollon> hehehe
[03:35] <abramhollon> that  was easy
[03:35] <RingDonut> Keeguon: There is this custom ISO maker called Reconstructor and I need usplash-dev to run it
[03:36] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, on doing that "The wine's firefox opens, in the embedded space on the web page where there actually should be a shockwave video"!!
[03:36] <alecjw> RingDonut: sudo aptitude install usplash-dev
[03:36] <chris> anyone have a suggestion for configuring laptop wifi card? have tried ubuntu wiki but no luck. Card worked fine with hoary, doesnt want to play with Edgy.
[03:37] <Keeguon> no one for my banshee problem?
[03:37] <compengi> !webcam
[03:37] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:37] <Menisk> chris, when you open netowrking in the admin menu does your card show up?
[03:38] <RingDonut> alecjw: "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "usplash-dev"
[03:38] <RingDonut> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed."
[03:38] <Rainbyte_> kentomson, sorry, can you repeat the last sentence (sorry, i'm learning english)
[03:38] <Luc1> hi
[03:38] <Keeguon> RingDonut: are you sure all your repositories are active?
[03:38] <RingDonut> Keeguon: aha
[03:39] <alecjw> RingDonut: that's starnge. it works fine for me...
[03:39] <alecjw> and it's in main
[03:39] <Luc1> Is any different between grub-install /dev/hda and /dev/hda1?
[03:39] <RingDonut> alecjw: are you using Ubuntu 6.06?
[03:39] <alecjw> RingDonut: nope. edgy
[03:39] <RingDonut> Keeguon: it seems so
[03:40] <ba5e> Luc1: YES!!!!!!!!!
[03:40] <RingDonut> alecjw: I'm using dapper. Maybe that is the problem...
[03:40] <ba5e> Luc1: BIG difference
[03:40] <KenSentMe> I use wpa_supplicant.conf to connect to my wireless network at work. Is there a gnome tool that i can use to connect to this network with the settings in wpa_supplicant.conf? I use wpa_gui, but i tells me could not get status from wpa_supplicant'
[03:40] <Keeguon> RingDonut: well try the edgy one but I don't think it'll work...
[03:40] <Luc1> Where is boot loader when I use /dev/hda1?
[03:40] <alecjw> Luc1: i think that /dev/hda1 will only install it on partition 1, not the mbr, making it useless
[03:40] <`m0> hello
[03:40] <`m0> I am trying to reinstall ubuntu by CD, and it is always stuck at 14% on Loading Linux Kernel, what may have cause this
[03:41] <Menisk> How do I connect to a WEP encrypted network with ubuntu? The wikis have not helped
[03:41] <Keeguon> `m0: maybe your CD?
[03:41] <alecjw> `m0: how much ram?
[03:41] <kenthomson> `m0, Did you check the CD for checksum?
[03:41] <Vorbote> RingDonut: It is better to backport it. I use pbuilder for such things. (There is a good how-to in the wiki).
[03:42] <alecjw> Luc1: you want to install it to /dev/hda (or hd0), then run teh command sudo update-grub
[03:42] <RingDonut> Vorbote: backport? pbuilder? What do they do? Where can I find them?
[03:42] <kenthomson> `m0, there is a option in the main menu before the livecd opens, for checking checksum, do that to verify the data on cd is intact
[03:42] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, ITS DONE!!!!!!!!! Thank you so so so much :) [though if only i would have carefully read !shockwave, i would have saved you and me countless minutes, or wait is that hours?]  :)
[03:43] <Vorbote> RingDonut: pbuilder is a developer tool to create dpkg packages (a.k.a. .deb files) in a chroot environment. Helps you prevent breaking your work system.
[03:44] <aidehua> Is there an Ubuntu bugs FAQ?
[03:44] <aidehua> Something I can search in for "LVM".
[03:44] <Rainbyte_> kenthomson, its good that you solve your problem
[03:44] <Menisk> How do I connect to a WEP encrypted wireless netowrk in ubuntu
[03:44] <Luc1> When I have boot loader in MBR(/dev/hda) I dont have to set boot flag in cfdisk? I am only curious.
[03:45] <`m0> kenthomson: I have done that, still stuck on 14%
[03:45] <`m0> kenthomson: I will reburn the CD
[03:45] <RingDonut> Vorbote: you are going to have to guide me through this :S
[03:45] <Vorbote> RingDonut: a backport is a newer version of an application that is packaged for a later OS version that you create to install in an older version.
[03:45] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, though if you load a shockwave game in Ubuntu's firefox, should wine's firefox open in a next window and display the game, or should it appear as a embedded object in the same (ubuntu's firefox) window?
[03:45] <kenthomson> `m0, please do that
[03:45] <RingDonut> Vorbote: so how would I create a backport of usplash-dev?
[03:46] <`m0> I wish I didn't reinstall :x
[03:46] <`m0> Thanks, I will keep you posted if works
[03:46] <`m0> My CD drive was *ticking*
[03:46] <Rainbyte_> kenthomson, i dont know, you have to try it a then tell us
[03:46] <kenthomson> `m0, what caused you to re0iinstall?
[03:47] <RingDonut> Vorbote: OK, I just installed pbuilder. Now what?
[03:47] <`m0> I messed up upgrading from dapper to edgy
[03:47] <alecjw> RingDonut: wouldn't it be easier to upgrade to edgy?
[03:47] <`m0> lots of power faults, and incomplete packages, and lots of problems at the end
[03:47] <adam98971> for no aprent reason some of my compiz plugins just dont work any advice?
[03:48] <robert_> linux locks up whenever I try to use my TV-in card
[03:48] <Vorbote> RingDonut: Go to packages.ubuntu.com search for usplash in edgy and grab the source files (.dsc, diff and orig). Run "sudo pbuilder build on the .dsc file.
[03:48] <Keeguon> adam98971: which ones?
[03:48] <er4z0r> hi
[03:48] <Vorbote> RingDonut: when it finishes you'll have your .deb files in /var/cache/pbuilder/result
[03:48] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, the test site (adobe's) displays in a animated screen that shockwave is installed, but when i load any game requiring shockwave (yes it loads as a embedded object), i can't play/interact with the game
[03:49] <RingDonut> alecjw: Vorbote: I'm actually only doing this so I can use the program to make a custom distro then upgrade to xubuntu
[03:49] <thegve> We received an "abuse" mail from an ISP of one our servers (an internet cafe in the Gambia), they included a log which seams to tell our server tried a brute force attack to another linux SSH server. chkrootkit gives nothing. Checking some logs gives nothing interesting. Would a brute-force attempt with a spoofed IP make sence for an attacker, don't think so myself... Or would it be more likely that one of the internet cafe guests finds himself a 1337 h4x0r.
[03:49] <Vorbote> RingDonut: just download the xubuntu alternate cd and upgrade with that.
[03:49] <thegve> The load is to high at the moment (cafe is full) to to a virusscan
[03:49] <Vorbote> RingDonut: It's a lot easier.
[03:49] <er4z0r> can anyone help me with this: I need to retrieve files matching a certain pattern from  a diretory-listing but I need them without the file-extension
[03:50] <thegve> It's a thin-client server, so 1 ip...
[03:50] <Rainbyte_> kenthomson, try to open the game with wine's firefox to be sure that it works well
[03:50] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, basically, it doesn't work :(, though the test site says so
[03:50] <aidehua> Is LVM2 support broken in Edgy's kernel?
[03:50] <adam98971> keeguon:relfection, blur ,miniwin,state,trailfocous, showdesktop
[03:50] <Cypher> the proxy works fine but i cant log in forums
[03:50] <Cypher> why
[03:50] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, you man manually open "wine firefox.exe" and than navigate to that site? That is bound to work, or i shall riot at ubuntu's HQ :)
[03:50] <RingDonut> Vorbote: but this program makes a custom distro, not xubuntu
[03:51] <PRAEDO> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:51] <PRAEDO> what package am i missing?
[03:51] <RingDonut> Vorbote: ah, forget it
[03:51] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, *mean
[03:51] <Keeguon> adam98971: hmm you're using compiz-quinn no?
[03:52] <Rainbyte_> yes
[03:52] <[lynx] > I have just mounted my second harddrive, but I can't write or open anything on it. I don't have the premissions. How can I change that?
[03:52] <Rainbyte_> kenthomson, try to navigate to that site with wine's firefox
[03:53] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, that works
[03:53] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, all this headache is to automatise the task
[03:53] <Menisk> I am having trouble setting up WEP encrypted WiFi, can someone help me.
[03:53] <Menisk> !WEP
[03:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:53] <Vorbote> aidehua: no as far as I can tell. OTOH, the installer won't install the lvm userspace tools unless you install to an LVM2 partition or there is an already existing LVM partition in your system.
[03:54] <Vorbote> aidehua: (If we are speaking edgy and later, of course).
[03:56] <Rainbyte_> kenthomson, yes i know
[03:56] <k0> does anyone know  of any opganziers to keep everyday events
[03:56] <k0> like a dairy?
[03:56] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, can you suggest some games that require shockwave to run? I tried searching, but can't find reliable ones
[03:57] <phr34ck> hey, when I minimize a program, it just disapear and I use to ALT+TAB to switch in between. Is there no way to make them minimize to the taskbar like in Microsoft Windows ?
[03:57] <Some_Person> yay! itunes 4.9 works on linux!
[03:57] <k0> anyone!
[03:57] <kenthomson> k0, use evolution which is ubuntu's default email + personal manager + planner + calendar all in one
[03:58] <kenthomson> phr34ck, that's unusual
[03:58] <kenthomson> phr34ck, Do you have a launch bar at the bottom of the screen
[03:58] <Rainbyte_> kenthomson, i don't know many games, but i can ask my sister, wait a minute
[03:58] <k0> kenthomson: other than
[03:58] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, that would help :)
[03:59] <kenthomson> k0, try using evolution, it's extremely synchronised in all its facilities and clean in its interface, and i don't know anything else
[03:59] <phr34ck> I have 2 bars. One of which i have shortcuts and menus, the other holds some information "like cpy current speed" and the workspace
[03:59] <kenthomson> k0, go to System>add/remove and type calendar, you may find something
[03:59] <k0> cheers mate i'll give it a go
[03:59] <kenthomson> k0, :)
[04:00] <`m0> kenthomson: alright it worked :)
[04:00] <phr34ck> ahh I just added it to the panel =)
[04:00] <kenthomson> phr34ck, that was what i was typing, now
[04:00] <alecjw> k0: and i think that evolution works with that calendar at the top right of your screenj
[04:00] <kenthomson> phr34ck, :)
[04:00] <kenthomson> `m0, :)
[04:00] <phr34ck> I feel stupid sometimes ;p
[04:00] <RingDonut> join #xubuntu
[04:00] <Rainbyte_> kenthomson, no, she doesn't know :(
[04:00] <kenthomson> `m0, made a new cd
[04:01] <k0> does it like pop up with certain events on login
[04:01] <kenthomson> Rainbyte_, never mind, you helped me enough for today :)
[04:01] <k0> like a task list sorta thing
[04:01] <kenthomson> k0, on first run a wizard is automatically run to allow you to add a POP/IMAP/whatever email
[04:02] <kenthomson> k0, once you set a single email id (you can add more by edit>preferences>add), than you have "mail", "contacts", "calendar", "contact", "tasts" as buttons in the left panel, which you can click to add appointments/whatever
[04:02] <k0> nice!
[04:03] <k0> i always thought it was jus an email manager
[04:03] <Menisk> Does ubuntu 6.10 support the ralink rt61 chipset?
[04:03] <kenthomson> k0, moreover in the date at top-right of the screen (eg. Tue Jan 2, TIME), when you click it a calender opens, and you can double click a date, and evolutions calendar opens to allow to add notes for that day
[04:03] <LucidFox> is LightScribe still broken in Edgy?
[04:03] <minerale> all the suddenn my audio has stopped working, how can I see which process is hanging my audio device?
[04:03] <LucidFox> or is there a workaround?
[04:03] <trinitrogen> I switched to pure Ubuntu yesterday, installed the Nvidia beta drivers and Beryl, but theres something thats killing me, how can I increase my resolution beyond 1024x768? I see forum posts that suggest editing my xorg.conf is this the route I should take?
[04:04] <kenthomson> minerale, double click, volume icon, File>change devie> Is alsa mixer selected?
[04:04] <jbroome> trinitrogen: what were you on before "pure ubuntu"?
[04:04] <k0> any help on how to setup hotmail account
[04:04] <trinitrogen> Pure Windows
[04:04] <k0> their server is IMAP
[04:04] <kenthomson> !nvidia | trinitrogen
[04:04] <ubotu> trinitrogen: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:04] <trinitrogen> jbroome Im not a total noob though
[04:05] <k0> kenthomson, u by any change know ther server conf
[04:05] <jbroome> !resolution | trinitrogen
[04:05] <ubotu> trinitrogen: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:05] <trinitrogen> kenthomson I used the ubuntu guide for installing the drivers yesterday, was that wrong?
[04:05] <jbroome> trinitrogen: see if that helps
[04:05] <kenthomson> trinitrogen, if you followed the route here, and got not enough resolutions in your xorg.conf, than consider editing it but before it backup it by "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[04:05] <k0> would it jus be hotmail.com
[04:06] <IdleOne> how do I add more radio stations in rythmbox?
[04:06] <kenthomson> k0, i would consider using hotmail.com's HELP site, just type POP/IMAP in help search and it should give you their ingoing and outgoing servers
[04:06] <LucidFox> minerale> lsof | grep /tmp/alsa
[04:06] <kenthomson> k0, i have two yahoo servers setup (pop.mail.yahoo.com, smtp.mail.yahoo.com) and one gmail (pop.gmail.com, smtp.gmail.com)
[04:07] <LucidFox> minerale> or
[04:07] <LucidFox> lsof /tmp/alsa*
[04:07] <k0> great help thx
[04:07] <minerale> lucidfox: oh that worked, thanks, gold! (i'll need to make a note of that)
[04:07] <kenthomson> k0, np :)
[04:09] <kenthomson> LucidFox, what does that command do?
[04:10] <alecjw> k0: i dont htink hotmail supports pop/imap, unless you pay
[04:10] <aljosa> is there a java (ant,tomcat,...) repository for ubuntu?
[04:10] <phr34ck> hotmail uses what server type?
[04:10] <phr34ck> I'm configuring evolution.
[04:11] <mnoir> kenthomson: (self help) type man lsof to get doc on command
[04:11] <alecjw> phr34ck: hotmail doesnt work in evolution. you have to pay for that. i reccokmed gmail instead. want an invite?
[04:11] <phr34ck> I already have a gmail account, was just wondering how to setup such programs.
[04:11] <kenthomson> mnoir, man pages are the most incoherent things for me, i need a tutorial for reading man pages, i simply need to know the BASIC syntax, and the man page spits out so much info that i get completely lost
[04:11] <phr34ck> I have never used an e-mail client before.
[04:12] <kenthomson> phr34ck, for gmail i can give you info
[04:12] <mnoir> kenthomson: sorry :)
[04:12] <alecjw> phr34ck: you'll have to keep using hotmail's webmail with the annoying ads and the gneral slowness. or use gmail :)
[04:12] <dev> man man!
[04:12] <dev> :D
[04:12] <phr34ck> It's okay, thanks anyway.
[04:12] <mnoir> first line of manpage: lsof - list open files
[04:13] <phr34ck> alecjw, I've been using this hotmail account since like 7 years or so.
[04:13] <kenthomson> k0, i heard that you can't get offline mail for hotmail, you required paid account at hotmail
[04:13] <phr34ck> It's way too hard to switch to another e-mail account, eventhough I have a lot of them.
[04:13] <k0> u need hotmail http access
[04:13] <alecjw> phr34ck: i happen to have writen a guide on how to configure gmail with evolution, in case you're interested
[04:13] <kenthomson> phr34ck, you can set hotmail to auto-forward everything to gmail, and set gmail for pop access, and use evolution
[04:13] <phr34ck> alecjw, sure. Where can I find it?
[04:13] <k0> i think only mirosoft apps only have this
[04:14] <alecjw> phr34ck: http://alecjw.googlepages.com/configureevolutionwithgooglemail
[04:14] <lkarim> hello
[04:14] <phr34ck> kay, will look at it
[04:14] <aidehua> I'm having some trouble creating a new PV and extending a VG in Ubuntu.  Creation of the PV alternately claims to work then fails, pvscan doesn't find the PV and vgextend says the PV hasn't been initialised.
[04:14] <RingDonut> How do I burn an ISO with Gnomebaker?
[04:15] <trinitrogen> Alright, editing xorg.conf didn't quite work. I tried to use the new resolution 1280x1024 but when it switched the screen got most garbled
[04:15] <kenthomson> k0, i think there is a program that fetches all your yahoo/gmail/hotmail emails, and gives you to a email client (although the email service provider doesn't allow offline access), let me look for it
[04:15] <k0> cheers mate
[04:16] <k0> anyway i can get a gmail account?
[04:16] <RingDonut> Help me!
[04:16] <kenthomson> k0, want a invite?
[04:16] <IdleOne> k0: I can send invite if you like
[04:16] <erUSUL> k0: you can get one without invitation now
[04:16] <biotrox> !gparted
[04:16] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:16] <RingDonut> !gnomebaker
[04:16] <ubotu> gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 991 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[04:16] <kenthomson> erUSUL, is it?
[04:16] <k0> can u know
[04:16] <k0> its still in beta
[04:17] <IdleOne> RingDonut: just click on burn image
[04:17] <RingDonut> Burn iamge?
[04:17] <RingDonut> Where is that?
[04:17] <kenthomson> k0, :
[04:17] <kenthomson> k0, ?
[04:17] <IdleOne> RingDonut: gimme a sec
[04:17] <jbroome> burn a mage?  that's not nice
[04:17] <k0> kenthomson, i wud liek yes
[04:17] <RingDonut> Ah, gnomebaker has crashed on me.
[04:17] <stelki> racist
[04:18] <kenthomson> k0, u want a gmail invite?
[04:18] <Q-FUNK> gaim keeps on auto-closing the conversation window at random, often even while i'm typing in it.  is there any preference I can set to never auto-close?
[04:18] <IdleOne> RingDonut: burn CD Image under Actions
[04:18] <alecjw> k0: you need to text them or get an invite. tell me your emkail and i'll send you an invite. i've also written a guide on configuring gmail with evolution
[04:18] <k0> yes please
[04:18] <jasin> everything crashes in linux it seems
[04:18] <RingDonut> IdleOne: it just crashed
[04:18] <IdleOne> heh well
[04:18] <stelki> linux is just unstable by nature
[04:18] <kenthomson> k0, IdleOne alecjw, they will send you a invite :)
[04:18] <jasin> You all must have crap systems
[04:18] <IdleOne> seems xchat just crashed also
[04:18] <kenthomson> stelki, ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
[04:19] <jasin> stelki, only if you got a crapy system
[04:19] <stelki> Dont take it personally, we all get random crashes 24/7 in linux
[04:19] <alecjw> kenthomson: but you need to text them, don't you?
[04:19] <jasin> I dont
[04:19] <kenthomson> alecjw, "text them" what is that?
[04:19] <alecjw> k0: http://alecjw.googlepages.com/configureevolutionwithgooglemail <--- useful if you have gmail and evolution
[04:20] <stelki> why not just use outlook express
[04:20] <RingDonut> Gnomebaker just crashed again
[04:20] <IdleOne> stelki: why not use evolution?
[04:20] <RingDonut> At exactly 50% baked
[04:20] <RingDonut> I mean, it only took 1 second to bake it to 50%
[04:21] <jasin> thats what happens when people buy cheap ass ram
[04:21] <alecjw> kenthomson: as in an SMS
[04:21] <stelki> lol.
[04:21] <RingDonut> And now it's died
[04:21] <k0> alecjw, did u get mine address
[04:21] <jasin> their system crashes
[04:21] <RingDonut> lol
[04:21] <alecjw> k0: no
[04:21] <RingDonut> !kernel panic
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel panic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <IdleOne> jasin: anything constructive to add or you just going to keep bashing other ppl's machines?
[04:21] <k0> its l4v4_f10w@hotmail.com
[04:21] <Solarion> RingDonut: any error messages
[04:21] <stelki> I suppose linux just requires more expensive hardware to run
[04:22] <Solarion> ?
[04:22] <RingDonut> Solarion: nope, just crashes
[04:22] <jasin> idleone, why not, when I have problems its what you all do.
[04:22] <Solarion> RingDonut: can you run dmesg?
[04:22] <stefg> stelki, would you mind stop trollimg, :-)
[04:22] <RingDonut> Solarion: dmesg? what's that?
[04:22] <stelki> stefg: but :(
[04:22] <jasin> ringdonut, you need to run a memtest and an fsck
[04:22] <kenthomson> alecjw, for sending a invite to anyone, log into a gmail account, there is a small box on left side saying "send invite", enter someone's email address in there, and click send invite, and you are done, or alternatively you can ask him to mail you, and from gmail, open that mail, there is a option "invite <name_of_person> to gmail.
[04:22] <Solarion> RingDonut: a command to tell you what the kernel has been saying
[04:23] <IdleOne> jasin: I never put down anybodies hardware. and if thats what ppl do to you then perhaps it stems from your attituded towards them
[04:23] <RingDonut> Solarion: "cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
[04:23] <RingDonut> "
[04:23] <IdleOne> -d
[04:23] <alecjw> kenthomson: yeah. i'm trying to get his email address theough.
[04:23] <Solarion> RingDonut: if your CD-ROM drive is spazzing out, it would say things like "/dev/hdc not responding" and stuff
[04:23] <jasin> IdleOne, I give what I get.
[04:23] <kenthomson> stefg, :)
[04:23] <k0> its l4v4_f10w@hotmail.com
[04:23] <RingDonut> No, it says "cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
[04:23] <RingDonut> "
[04:23] <IdleOne> jasin:  apperently :)
[04:23] <kenthomson> alecjw, <k0> its l4v4_f10w@hotmail.com
[04:23] <k0> thats rite
[04:24] <alecjw> ok
[04:24] <RingDonut> [17184600.812000]  cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
[04:24] <RingDonut> [17184871.664000]  scsi: unknown opcode 0x01
[04:24] <jasin> IdleOne, yeah so its not me then.
[04:24] <kenthomson> alecjw, interesting site, post some more things there! :)
[04:24] <IdleOne> jasin: nope it isnt you. it must be everyone else around you
[04:24] <jasin> ideleone, now, do you have anything crunstructive to say or you jst going to keep ragin on me?
[04:24] <jasin> constructive*
[04:25] <RingDonut> Solarion: any suggestions?
[04:25] <kenthomson> k0, here you go that program is called MrPostman "MrPostman is a java program that allows you to access Yahoo Mail, Hotmail and other webmail services directly from your favorite mail client."
[04:25] <IdleOne> jasin: not raggin on you and yes I do have something constructive to say. maybe you should try being a little more positive towards other people and they will return the favor
[04:25] <alecjw> kenthomson: yay! thanks. i just make a page whenever i think of somethign woth making a page about. :)
[04:25] <Solarion> RingDonut: if that's the only message you get (it's normal, meaning that there is no data on the disc), then I'm not sure what's causing the problems
[04:25] <jasin> IdleOne, just stop talking to me, please.
[04:25] <kenthomson> alecjw, atleast that keeps your thoughts and interested documented :)
[04:25] <Solarion> RingDonut: are you running out of free space on your hard drive, by any chance?
[04:26] <kenthomson> alecjw, *interests
[04:26] <IdleOne> jasin: sure np have a good day :)
[04:26] <RingDonut> Solarion: nope, 75GB left
[04:26] <Solarion> RingDonut: is it all one filesystem, or do you have it split up?
[04:26] <sselemanluos> as a fairly simple question (i hope) how does one add a second e-mail account to evolution
[04:26] <jasin> Ring, try a new cd
[04:26] <RingDonut> Solarion: I think it's all in one
[04:26] <k0> is it within ubuntu packages
[04:26] <alecjw> k0: i've sent the invite
[04:26] <Solarion> RingDonut: hmm
[04:27] <k0> thanks dude
[04:27] <kenthomson> k0, NO
[04:27] <k0> i'llfind thx 4 ur help
[04:27] <kenthomson> k0, it's a java program so shouldn't cause any problems
[04:27] <Solarion> RingDonut: is gnomebaker the burner built into nautilus?
[04:27] <RingDonut> k0: If you gots any problems just ask me
[04:27] <RingDonut> Solarion: I don't know
[04:28] <Solarion> RingDonut: looks like it's not.  Hmm.
[04:28] <Solarion> RingDonut: what are you tying to burn?
[04:28] <jasin> RingDonut, why's your system keep crashing?
[04:28] <RingDonut> Solarion: I'm trying to burn Xubuntu ISO Alternate CD
[04:29] <dalani> cli syntax to check services on hoary????
[04:29] <k0> will i use xgl
[04:29] <dalani> net services
[04:29] <k0> so i guess it will have some problems
[04:29] <kenthomson> k0, here you go http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=68124&package_id=66673&release_id=383373, go there download the first-or-second .jar file, and simply execute it in ubuntu. I presume you have JRE installed if not first do that. Once Mr.postman is installed it will fetch all your yahoo/hotmail/whatever emails, than you can ask evolution/outlook/whatever to look for emails from MrPostman, and there you have treaked M$ to give you i
[04:29] <kenthomson> ndirect access to your mails offline :)
[04:30] <kenthomson> !java | k0
[04:30] <ubotu> k0: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:30] <RingDonut> k0: if you need anymore invites just email me, k?
[04:30] <dtofre> whats ubuntu's default torrent client
[04:30] <k0> thx mate
[04:30] <Solarion> RingDonut: you're running gnome?
[04:30] <RingDonut> Solarion: yes
[04:30] <[miles] > guys, can anyone tell me the equvilient to chkconfig in Ubuntu Server 6.06 please?
[04:30] <RingDonut> Solarion: "write track data: error after 1333248 bytes"
[04:31] <jasin> dtofre, there isn't one, use bittornaddo or azureus.
[04:31] <RingDonut> Solarion: "Sense Key: 0x4 Hardware Error, Segment 0"
[04:31] <dalani> miles I think its lcpci
[04:31] <kenthomson> I really like this community although it ends up using a lot of my time :)
[04:31] <[miles] > dalani, ?!
[04:32] <RingDonut> Solarion: "v"
[04:32] <dalani> to check your config?
[04:32] <RingDonut> Solarion: "Min drive buffer fill was 84%
[04:32] <RingDonut> Fixating...
[04:32] <RingDonut> cdrecord: faio_wait_on_buffer for writer timed out."
[04:32] <Solarion> RingDonut: interesting
[04:32] <[miles] > dalani, if you mean lspci, thats nothing to do with chkconfig
[04:32] <[miles] > dalani, im refering to controlling the init scripts
[04:32] <dalani> what you trying to do?
[04:32] <Solarion> RingDonut: looks like your drive is spazzing out.  Could be a bad disc or a batch of bad discs.
[04:32] <wayco> anybody found an easy to use, easy to set-up webcan for unbuntu?
[04:32] <RingDonut> Solarion: reckon I should use my Windows :( PC to burn it?
[04:32] <linuxnewbie756> i have had this problem before, after i install ubuntu on a system, sometimes when i install amarok its the new version, and sometimes on a different freshly installed ubuntu, amarok installs as the old version. currently, this is trying to install the old version
[04:32] <dalani> which run level?
[04:32] <Solarion> RingDonut: Do you have more discs?
[04:33] <RingDonut> Solarion: yes
[04:33] <k0> thx dudes, im out 4 now
[04:33] <RingDonut> I g2g for lunch
[04:33] <Solarion> RingDonut: put a fresh one in, and do the following:
[04:33] <[miles] > dalani, well, all... I need just wondered if there is a tool to edit them without having to mess with the symlinks
[04:33] <Solarion> RingDonut: 1) right-click on the ISO
[04:33] <Solarion> [in Nautilus] 
[04:33] <RingDonut> ok
[04:33] <ubuntu> hk
[04:33] <Solarion> RingDonut: 2) Select "Write to Disc..."
[04:33] <RingDonut> OK...
[04:33] <dalani> oh you mean those initrd files
[04:33] <Solarion> RingDonut: Now try writing it
[04:33] <ubuntu> hallo
[04:33] <RingDonut> KK
[04:34] <RingDonut> Solarion: I g2g for lunch, so seeya in a bit
[04:34] <Solarion> i.e. click the Write button
[04:34] <RingDonut> Bye!
[04:34] <Solarion> RingDonut: I gots to go
[04:34] <[miles] > dalani, yes
[04:34] <RingDonut> Solarion: it just popped up
[04:34] <dalani> miles back up for intit files first to roll back if needed
[04:34] <Solarion> RingDonut: looks like something is making your CD drive spaz out.  the Nautilus burning route may provide more information.
[04:34] <jcapote> how well does banshee support MTP
[04:34] <RingDonut> Solarion: Failed burning image.
[04:34] <tc_75> my housemate tends to go to sleep with my computer on... is there an easy way to tell it to always shutdown after 2am if it's on?
[04:34] <Solarion> RingDonut: otherwise, you may wish to try a different drive/disc combo.
[04:34] <[miles] > dalani, I'll hit the wiki... ;-) but thanks
[04:35] <Solarion> Wodner if they're the cheap discs.  I've had problems with them.
[04:35] <dalani> no prob
[04:35] <markvandenborre> anyone out here with php skills willing to have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/support.points.map/+bug/77694 ?
[04:35] <dalani> anyone know or use internet superserver??
[04:35] <Solarion> I tend to buy trusted, name-brand discs (on sale ;) for that reason.  I've had problems with the cheap discs causing my overly-sensitive drive to spaz.
[04:35] <dalani> Ie. have internet running at boot up??
[04:36] <wayco> anybody found an easy to use, easy to set-up, not too expensive webcam for unbuntu?
[04:37] <madmantm> hey ppl sup
[04:39] <dalani> anyone have their internet running at boot up??
[04:40] <phr34ck> hey, how can I supply my password when I create bash functions?
[04:41] <dalani> anyone have their internet running at boot up?? anyone??
[04:41] <phr34ck> Like, I'm creating a function that will change the mac address automatically, however, i need sudo to do so ... how can put my password inside the function?
[04:42] <doughboy> help. I just got edgy eft installed to perfection and later I rebooted with the sadness of gnome not starting. I get the username and password screen just fine ut after that I get a brown screen with gnome not loading. Whats up with that?
[04:42] <fr500> hello
[04:42] <erUSUL> phr34ck: just make it executed by root in the init process (changing owner and group to root first)
[04:42] <finalbeta> phr34ck, "read -e COLOR"
[04:43] <dalani> fr500: internet running at boot up??
[04:43] <tc_75> hi can i put 'shutdown -h' in my crontab?
[04:43] <paolo> Hi. I'm trying to install an nvidia driver trhough a sh script. when I launch the script it says that I must stop X server. I tried to stop it, but with no results: i've tried both /sbin/init 3  and killall X.....
[04:43] <phr34ck> The function I'm writing is in the .bash_profile.
[04:43] <erUSUL> paolo: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:43] <winmutt> hi im getting all kinds of errors aobut my LOCALE settings any clue what are the correct ones for en_US? LANG, LC_ALL, LANGUAGE env?
[04:44] <paolo> erUSUL: let's try
[04:44] <biotrox> hey
[04:44] <biotrox> i have ABIT A17 with SATA HDD
[04:44] <biotrox> can i install ubuntu ?
[04:44] <phr34ck> what does the "read -e COLOR" do ?
[04:45] <Trinitrogen> Uh oh, I used that change resolution guide you guys suggested, and after I used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, now I can't log into my machine. I put in my username/password, screen goes black then kicks me back to the login screen :(
[04:45] <biotrox> !info ubuntu in SATA
[04:45] <ubotu> Package ubuntu does not exist in edgy
[04:45] <jbroome> !sata | biotrox
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <dalani> anyone have their internet running at boot up??
[04:45] <jbroome> dalani: dial up or cable/dsl?
[04:45] <doughboy> guess no help today. I was hoping someone knew what was up or had similiar experience with edgy. Guess it is back to dapper until edgy gets fixed
[04:45] <IdleOne> dalani: what do you mean exactly by internet running at boot up?
[04:45] <Trinitrogen> only thing that works is the terminal
[04:45] <dalani> jb dial up
[04:46] <jbroome> ugh, no.  i haven't done dialup in a while.
[04:46] <dalani> idle when I start up te internet is accessible
[04:46] <jbroome> right.
[04:46] <dalani> Mine works jsut has issues with ping and traceroute
[04:46] <IdleOne> !dialup | dalani
[04:46] <ubotu> dalani: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[04:47] <dalani> its Ok I use wvdial ppp
[04:47] <dalani> I can't send emails via evolution can receive though
[04:48] <fr500> hmmm windows aren't being redrawn after maximizing with beryl
[04:48] <dalani> jb does your box connect at boot up??
[04:49] <kenthomson> HELP!!!!!!: Windows computer = PC, Macintosh Computer = Max, Linux Computer = <what>???? :)
[04:49] <kenthomson> Linux 'box', that sounds so UGLY :(
[04:49] <IdleOne> Linux Computer = Freedom!
[04:50] <kenthomson> IdleOne, what do i call it?
[04:50] <dalani> kent how about: linux machine
[04:50] <kenthomson> IdleOne, FOr eg. my PC is two years old, what do we say that for a linux computer?
[04:50] <RingDonut> Solarion: Hello again
[04:50] <kenthomson> dalani, linux-box, linux-machine are so ugly and unconventional
[04:50] <dalani> ugly? you want poetry?
[04:50] <IdleOne> kenthomson: alot of ppl use linux box but depending who you are talking to you may want to just say linux computer
[04:50] <radioman_> hey
[04:51] <kenthomson> IdleOne, ok
[04:51] <kenthomson> dalani, i am a poet :)
[04:51] <RingDonut> Solarion: well, I have tried the way you told me earlier
[04:51] <dev> or depending on who you're talking to "the thing other than windows" box
[04:51] <dalani> me too
[04:51] <RingDonut> !nikto
[04:51] <LinAsH> kenthomson, Windows !=PC !!!
[04:51] <ubotu> nikto: web server security scanner. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.35-1 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 868 kB
[04:51] <IdleOne> kenthomson: and if it is someone who has no clue then just say computer because explaining what Linux is to someone who doesnt know takes forever lol
[04:51] <kenthomson> LinAsH, please say that again and be a little more explanative
[04:51] <kenthomson> IdleOne, :)
[04:52] <RingDonut> Windows = PC, Linux = Box
[04:52] <dalani> how about computer? everything else is amateur
[04:52] <LinAsH> windows is an OS dor PC like linux is (and also for many more architectures)
[04:52] <kenthomson> dalani, thats the most feasible option us 'poor' (as in lack of proper words) Linux users have
[04:52] <kenthomson> RingDonut, that sounds so ugly "linux box"
[04:53] <superkirbyartist> !criawips
[04:53] <ubotu> criawips: A Presentation application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.11-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 176 kB
[04:53] <dalani> so its settle a computer runs linux otherwise it's not
[04:53] <RingDonut> !linux
[04:53] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[04:53] <dalani> settled
[04:53] <kenthomson> LinAsH, windows is an OS dor PC like, what is "dor"?
[04:53] <RingDonut> !hack
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <kenthomson> dalani, :) :) :)
[04:53] <LinAsH> I mean for
[04:54] <dalani> now does your computer connect to the net at boot-up???
[04:54] <kenthomson> ok
[04:54] <RingDonut> Mylinux box just ate my disc
[04:54] <kenthomson> Bye all
[04:54] <IdleOne> kenthomson: I prefer to call my "Linux Box" by it's name " Ubuntu :)
[04:54] <kenthomson> :) :) :)
[04:54] <RingDonut> "Cannot eject."
[04:54] <superkirbyartist> I have problems with installing Criawips http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/250/
[04:54] <kenthomson> IdleOne, now that's a word Way to Go! :)
[04:54] <RingDonut> "The selected volume is busy."
[04:54] <jasin> !ubuntu
[04:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[04:54] <kenthomson> RingDonut, Feed it well and everything shall go fine
[04:55] <RingDonut> !xubuntu
[04:55] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[04:55] <kenthomson> jasin, consider using !ubuntu > jasin
[04:55] <RingDonut> kenthomson: lol
[04:55] <jasin>  !ubuntu > jasin
[04:55] <RingDonut> !opensuse
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opensuse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <RingDonut> !suse
[04:55] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[04:55] <kenthomson> RingDonut, "sudo eject"
[04:55] <jasin> kentho, tryign to find the download link
[04:56] <IdleOne> jasin: www.ubuntu.com
[04:56] <kenthomson> RingDonut, consider using !suse > RingDonut
[04:56] <IdleOne> !google | jasin
[04:56] <ubotu> jasin: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[04:56] <jasin> IdleOne, no no, nevermind
[04:56] <RingDonut> It ejected then my PC ate it again
[04:56] <IdleOne> RingDonut: you arent feeding it enough then lol
[04:56] <RingDonut> Darn
[04:56] <RingDonut> It keeps munching this bad disc
[04:57] <kenthomson> RingDonut, A Case of extreme starvation, dont tell it to the Human-rights commision
[04:57] <jasin> RingDonut, sounds like you need a new computer :p
[04:57] <Nontitle> lol this isnt msn
[04:57] <jasin> msn? wtf
[04:58] <Nontitle> [05:58]  * superkirbyartist has just sent a nudge!
[04:58] <kenthomson> jasin, http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download, and select a location closer to you, in the middle of the web-page
[04:58] <superkirbyartist> Yeah but did anyone read the pastebin?
[04:58] <kenthomson> ?
[04:58] <jasin> kenthom, wont help, I cant do www right now.
[04:58] <IdleOne> superkirbyartist: how about you give us the link again
[04:58] <Nontitle> i think i got here after you sent the pastebin
[04:58] <superkirbyartist> Buzz is Yahoo.
[04:58] <superkirbyartist> I have problems with installing Criawips http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/250/
[04:58] <Nontitle> oh
[04:59] <RingDonut> Frazzlin hell
[04:59] <RingDonut> My box just keeps eating the disc
[04:59] <RingDonut> Aha
[04:59] <kenthomson> Bye!
[04:59] <RingDonut> Gotcha
[05:00] <RingDonut> !dev
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <superkirbyartist> Anyone read the pastebin?
[05:00] <RingDonut> !myself
[05:00] <DarthShrine> RingDonut, Get a paperclip and stab it into the little hole?
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <Nontitle> lol
[05:00] <superkirbyartist> !ubotu | ubotu
[05:00] <ubotu> ubotu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:00] <superkirbyartist> !ubotu
[05:00] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:00] <visualnets> hello everyone
[05:00] <RingDonut> Ah, NOW it writes to the cD
[05:01] <RingDonut> AFTER I wasted 6 DVDs
[05:01] <dalani> anyone know about ifupdown to configure interfaces???
[05:01] <IdleOne> superkirbyartist: sudo apt-get install libdbus-1-2
[05:01] <visualnets> RingDonut,what about u say
[05:01] <Nontitle> libdbus-1.2
[05:02] <RingDonut> Please don't crash, o-mighty disc
[05:02] <RingDonut> :S
[05:02] <RingDonut> Please!
[05:02] <superkirbyartist> See what happens when we nudge in IRC ;)?
[05:02] <IdleOne> superkirbyartist: nothing
[05:02] <Nontitle> well, i'm using edgy and im trying to get the boot splash screen so it says what it's doing, like in dapper. In menu.lst, am i supposed to get rid of the first quiet or the second "quiet"?
[05:02] <superkirbyartist> IdleOne: The package is already the latest version.
[05:03] <carlos_> hi, who else is having problems using remote desktop to connect to a  windows box
[05:03] <RingDonut> "You have inserted WIN_XP. Would you like to...
[05:03] <carlos_> i keep getting  a internal protocol error
[05:04] <IdleOne> superkirbyartist: sudo apt-get install -f might fix it. i really not sure
[05:04] <RingDonut> 1: DownGrade 2: Eject and destroy"
[05:04] <mnoir> Nontitle: any quiet in a stanza for a specifickernel will affect the boot of that kernel
[05:04] <visualnets> who can use Ubuntu to create a webserver
[05:04] <RingDonut> OK Everyone, I'm going to do it
[05:04] <Nontitle> oh ok
[05:04] <Nontitle> thanks
[05:04] <visualnets> I learning use Ubuntu create a webserver
[05:05] <mnoir> so it depends on what you want quiet :)
[05:05] <superkirbyartist> I have problems with installing Criawips http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/250/
[05:05] <LinAsH> visualnets, and ...
[05:05] <Nontitle> superkirbyartist: wouldn't you be able to use an older version of criawips, possibly?
[05:06] <visualnets> LinAsH,hello
[05:06] <nauj27> hi
[05:06] <superkirbyartist> Nontitle: Hmmm. how?
[05:06] <visualnets> sorry for my english
[05:06] <Nontitle> i'm not sure... i think theres an option in synaptic where you can force a certain version
[05:07] <superkirbyartist> Nontitle: Synaptic hogs my laptop.
[05:07] <Nontitle> oh
[05:08] <Nontitle> then i'm not sure what to do
[05:08] <mnoir> in synaptic: Package -> force version
[05:08] <RingDonut> The best use
[05:08] <RingDonut> !nikto
[05:08] <mnoir> try man apt-get to discover how to do it at the command line.  It should have a parm for that
[05:08] <ubotu> nikto: web server security scanner. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.35-1 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 868 kB
[05:08] <RingDonut> !nmap
[05:08] <ubotu> nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.10-1 (edgy), package size 702 kB, installed size 2436 kB
[05:09] <RingDonut> lolz
[05:10] <RingDonut> !tux
[05:10] <ubotu> tux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/
[05:10] <RingDonut> All heil Tux!
[05:10] <BigToe> What package do I need to be able to play WMV 9 videos in Xine (firefox plugin)?
[05:10] <Ebagen02> okay I have no OS to speak of, no network cable, a non functional CD rom drive and I'd like to install ubuntu... any one got any ideas?
[05:11] <Nontitle> tux is da bomb! he is awesome
[05:11] <RingDonut> !qwerty
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qwerty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <mnoir> the /etc/apt/preferences file can be used to pin old releases
[05:11] <IdleOne> RingDonut: go to #ubuntu-bots if you want to play with ubotu
[05:11] <RingDonut> kk
[05:11] <IdleOne> RingDonut: /msg ubotu searchterm is also good :)
[05:11] <Nontitle> Ebagen02: good luck, i have no clue
[05:11] <Ebagen02> damn
[05:11] <Nontitle> !the back of my hand
[05:11] <ubotu> the: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (edgy), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB
[05:11] <BigToe> What package do I need to be able to play WMV 9 videos in Xine (firefox plugin)?
[05:11] <Ebagen02> anyone know of a way to bootsrap ubuntu?
[05:12] <Nontitle> darn
[05:12] <Ebagen02> bootstap w/ floppies?
[05:12] <Nontitle> !"the back of my hand"
[05:12] <Nontitle> agh, never mind, ubotu
[05:12] <jps> bitoe> mplayer, mplayerplugin
[05:12] <seifip> Hi all!
[05:13] <seifip> Is it possible to install more that 4 languages to ubuntu?
[05:13] <gregcha117> i installed azureus with "sudo apt-get install azureus" and it goes to the splash screen and then closes immediately afterwards
[05:13] <seifip> I mean to the Layout selector...
[05:13] <LinAsH> seifip, yes
[05:13] <seifip> LinAsH: How?
[05:14] <LinAsH> seifip, install the language-support-xx fore each language
[05:15] <LinAsH> seifip, there is a tool for this in the system menu
[05:15] <jps> How do I customize kmenu? Is there a menu editor like alacarte for gnome?
[05:15] <Amaranth> jps: kmenuedit
[05:16] <LinAsH> gregcha117, you should have better success with the sun jre
[05:16] <jps> thankd amarath
[05:16] <fromvega> Hi room.. I'm setting some crontabs, and i have to set one, to execute a script each minute. i've tried this: crontab -e   and there I added this line: 1 * * * * /path/to/script   and, passed more than 1 minute and i'm waiting until now! =P  could you help me?
[05:16] <IdleOne> gregcha117: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre then try running azureus again
[05:16] <seifip> LinAsH, thnx... I'll try it...
[05:17] <cybrjoe> fromvega, you have to specify every minute you'd like the script to run
[05:17] <BigToe> What package do I need to be able to play WMV 9 videos in xine?
[05:17] <gregcha117> idleone: it says its already the newest version
[05:17] <fromvega> so, how do i do it? =)
[05:17] <cybrjoe> fromvega, ie: 1,2,3,4
[05:17] <cybrjoe> fromvega, from what i understand
[05:17] <fromvega> i need to run this script every minute.
[05:18] <jps> bigtoe> I told you, mplayer , mplayerplugin
[05:18] <fromvega> cybrjoe i need to run this script every minute.
[05:18] <BigToe> oh
[05:18] <BigToe> I missed that
[05:18] <BigToe> sorry
[05:18] <cybrjoe> fromvega,  right, and that tells cron to run it on the first minute, the second minute, etc
[05:18] <jps> bigtoe> but use easyubuntu or automatix... its easyer
[05:18] <Martiini> howto install linux from iso image .. anyone, please
[05:18] <cybrjoe> someone else might have a better solution
[05:18] <IdleOne> !automatix | BigToe
[05:18] <ubotu> BigToe: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:18] <cybrjoe> it didn't make sense to me, i did the same thing
[05:18] <LameBMX> Martiini, burn it and stick it in
[05:18] <cybrjoe> i*
[05:18] <LinAsH> gregcha117, 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' and choose the sun jre
[05:19] <BigToe> !WorksForMe
[05:19] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:19] <jps> bigtoe>> easyubuntu is better...
[05:19] <Martiini> howto install linux from iso image without burning it or any other stuff .. anyone, please
[05:19] <BigToe> oh, ok
[05:19] <BigToe> !easyubuntu
[05:19] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[05:19] <fromvega> cybrjoe, but the way ur saying, i need to type like 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.....,58,59 ???
[05:19] <str> hi all!
[05:19] <str> anyone here has set up a "trac"  in ubuntu?
[05:19] <rizo_> Hi
[05:20] <rizo_> I need some help i can't boot into linux through grub
[05:20] <cybrjoe> fromvega, sorry, if you want every minute, just use * in the minute column
[05:20] <IdleOne> !grub | rizo_
[05:20] <ubotu> rizo_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:20] <jps> bigtoe> One problem i had with this thing is thart since theres a plugin for totem inside firefox... the mplayerplugin seemed to handle the same media formats
[05:20] <maheanuu_> IaOrana good morning and happy new year to all
[05:20] <BigToe> ah, jps
[05:20] <LinAsH> fromvega> it's * * * * * for every minutes
[05:20] <fromvega> cybrjoe, thanks! ;) i'll try dude! thanks for ur help.
[05:21] <fromvega> humm. understood :P
[05:21] <fromvega> let's test! hehehe
[05:21] <rizo_> I recently insattled windows on the first partition of the drive, however there was an error during installation now i can't boot the dirve
[05:21] <IdleOne> rizo_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:22] <NaPsTeR> hey all
[05:22] <rizo_> its amde the drive undetectable by some programs
[05:22] <NaPsTeR> i need help
[05:22] <rizo_> made?
[05:22] <NaPsTeR> im very new to linux and ubuntu
[05:22] <fromvega> cybrjoe, do i have to restart something after the settings changing?
[05:22] <NaPsTeR> i installed it yesterday
[05:22] <NaPsTeR> from using windows since i was a kid
[05:22] <IdleOne> NaPsTeR: whats up?
[05:22] <cybrjoe> fromvega, no, if you used crontab -e you should be all set
[05:23] <eitan> hey guys...is it possible to install 6.06 on top of 6.10 while retaining the programs already installed?
[05:23] <NaPsTeR> when i go into certain web pages the display is all messed up
[05:23] <NaPsTeR> things arent where they supposed to be
[05:23] <NaPsTeR> wat can i do
[05:24] <cybrjoe> NaPsTeR, did you use IE on windows?
[05:24] <hotti> do iw and ifconfig settings stay as they are now if i boot?
[05:24] <NaPsTeR> yes
[05:25] <NaPsTeR> then i swapped to mozilla recently
[05:25] <NaPsTeR> didnt use it for long
[05:25] <cybrjoe> NaPsTeR, some pages don't render the same depending on the browser
[05:25] <AdamKrier> can anyone tell me why Eye of Gnome/gThumb do not recognize .jpg but do recognize .jpeg? and how to fix it?
[05:26] <cybrjoe> NaPsTeR, it isn't usually a linux or ubuntu thing
[05:26] <kane77> hi
[05:27] <NaPsTeR> so it could genuinly just be the browser for the particular page?
[05:27] <LinAsH> AdamKrier, set the default application in the properties windows of a .jpg file
[05:27] <kbrosnan> NaPsTeR: what is the page?
[05:27] <cybrjoe> NaPsTeR, exactly all the pages i viewed under win/ff look exactly the same under lin/ff ... its usually the pages fault
[05:28] <NaPsTeR> at the moment www.stickcricket.com
[05:28] <NaPsTeR> i clicked 1 player
[05:28] <NaPsTeR> and just underneath it the buttons are all messed up
[05:29] <dev> is there a way to make evolution notify you of new mail via a popup window or something, similar to outlook2003/2007 when new mail arrives?
[05:29] <kbrosnan> NaPsTeR: that uses flash, is that installed?
[05:30] <kbrosnan> NaPsTeR: you can type about:plugins in the adderss bar to see if flash is listed
[05:30] <AdamKrier> LinAsH, it is currently set as "Image Viewer" i tried changing it to eog and gThumb, but it still does not work -- i have more written about it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=329875
[05:30] <NaPsTeR> it should be
[05:30] <BTR> Hi, i used apt to download and install gnome-desktop, then i restarted, now when i try logging in it fails and go back to the loginscreen (both when i try gnome,kde and failsafe), how do i  solve that?
[05:30] <NaPsTeR> listen thnx for the help
[05:30] <NaPsTeR> i gotta go now
[05:30] <NaPsTeR> but ill be back lata
[05:30] <NaPsTeR> i have ,many more questions
[05:31] <str> anyone here has set up a "trac"  in ubuntu?
[05:31] <eitan> hey guys...is it possible to install 6.06 on top of 6.10 while retaining the programs already installed?
[05:32] <HymnToLife> eitan, yes
[05:32] <HymnToLife> don't expect it to work, though :p
[05:33] <seifip> Please, how can I install more than 4 keyboard layouts to ubuntu?
[05:33] <poorenglish> seanj: buy a new hand
[05:33] <seifip> I have tryed it using different methods, no result :(
[05:34] <kane77> *going to play tremulous for a bit
[05:36] <AdamKrier> can anyone tell me why Eye of Gnome/gThumb do not recognize .jpg but do recognize .jpeg? and how to fix it?
[05:37] <adinsx> hi
[05:37] <hjmills> i followed a guide here: http://www.tiny.cc/SfWVB but it just gives me a permissions error - any ideas?
[05:37] <Tron2> can anyone help me with this http://rafb.net/p/vf3Ggm25.html
[05:37] <phr34ck> hey, can I use 2 apt-get at the same time?
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> phr34ck:
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> no
[05:38] <phr34ck> meh, why not?
[05:38] <psynaps3> Hi, is there a way i can change the master gnome-keyring password?
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> because you can't use too things in /lock
[05:38] <adinsx> because it locks a file so you don't have two processes modifying the same file
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> two* blah my spelling is off
[05:38] <eitan> is it possible to install 7.x on top of 6.06?
[05:38] <adinsx> you cant even use the add/remove tool and apt-get at the same time
[05:39] <hjmills> phr34ck: because almost all of the apt programs lock the dir when open and def lock it when they are actually working
[05:39] <Admiral_Chicago> eitan: first you have to go to 6.10
[05:39] <adinsx> i have a question though with apt-get, I'm trying to install build-essential
[05:39] <phr34ck> I see.
[05:39] <Admiral_Chicago> then 7.X
[05:39] <eitan> so when 7.x get's released, can i update to 6.10 then quickley to 7.x?
[05:39] <zerokarmaleft> vim7's saying :syntax isn't an available command...wtf happened
[05:39] <adinsx> so i run sudo apt-get install build-essential and it asks me to put in the cd, which i dont have with me, how do i get it to install from an online repository?
[05:39] <phr34ck> but that's kinda stupid. What if I want to download packages and remove other packages at the same time?.
[05:40] <DeCaelo> not really stupid, i'd say it's quite a good feature.
[05:40] <Admiral_Chicago> phr34ck: thats what a link is for. like sudo apt-get install firefox && sudo apt-get remove gaim
[05:40] <adinsx> because apt-get wouldn't know if you were removing the same thing you were downloading or something, or removing something that the thing you were downloading depended on
[05:40] <Tron2> why would i get that error while installing vmware?
[05:40] <Tron2> http://rafb.net/p/vf3Ggm25.html
[05:40] <phr34ck> Admiral_Chicago,  you just said that I cannot use 2 apt-get at the same time.
[05:40] <iratik> How do you hang up the modem -- i'm dialing in but its coming up busy! ??
[05:40] <adinsx> && means it will preform that task after the first one completed
[05:41] <Admiral_Chicago> phr34ck: correct, but you can link commands with &&
[05:41] <phr34ck> I see.
[05:41] <DeCaelo> <3's &&
[05:41] <phr34ck> well that's good.
[05:41] <phr34ck> but still, the system has to wait for one command to finish, in order to execute the other.
[05:41] <psynaps3> Is there a way i can change the master gnome-keyring password?
[05:41] <DeCaelo> What's wrong with that?
[05:41] <hjmills> eitan: just to warn you - make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed before you upgrade and BACKUP EVERYTHING FIRST
[05:41] <mnoir> of course if the first fails and they are linked with && then the second will not even run...
[05:41] <hjmills> sorry for shouting but its important - you can easily bork your install
[05:42] <eitan> is 7.4 out right now?
[05:42] <TheRingmaster> I can vouch for that
[05:42] <eitan> as a beta?
[05:42] <phr34ck> waste of time, if he were downloading something really big, for example, I'm downloading eclipse and I've been downloading it since this morning .. I have  a bad connection.
[05:42] <Admiral_Chicago> eitan: no
[05:42] <eitan> ok
[05:42] <eitan> i want to go back to 6.06
[05:42] <phr34ck> now apt-get is totally locked "so you said" and I cannot do anything else.
[05:42] <eitan> i have 6.10 now
[05:42] <eitan> but i want to upgrade later to 7.4
[05:42] <Admiral_Chicago> it's in beta still, it'll come out Around April 19th
[05:42] <eitan> okay
[05:43] <mnoir> eitan: that is a rare action - it is usually less labor to reinstall when downgrading
[05:43] <DeCaelo> If you have a bad connection, why would you want to download from more repositories while you download Eclipse, though?
[05:43] <eitan> i probably will reinstall if i go to 6.06
[05:43] <iratik> Admiral_Chicago: My modem won't hang up - simple way of issuing a command to reset the modem other than restarting the whole server ?
[05:43] <DeCaelo> It'll just kill your speed, and well, consuming more of your time, which you are trying to save
[05:43] <eitan> ill use the live cd to make sure everything is working
[05:43] <Tron2> anyone here has installed vmware on ubuntu?
[05:43] <Tron2> i get this strange error
[05:43] <Tron2> http://rafb.net/p/vf3Ggm25.html
[05:43] <adinsx> so does anyone know how to force apt-get to install from online sources?  I don't have the ubuntu cd handy... i dont even have an internal cd drive
[05:44] <Admiral_Chicago> iratik: sorry, I'm no good with modems (pppoe connection ??)
[05:44] <phr34ck> DeCaelo, I wouldn't, but I was giving an example. If my connection was a little bit faster I would have done it, eventhough it will get a little slower.
[05:44] <iratik> Tron2: try #vmware
[05:44] <eitan> will 6.06 be updated indefinitely?
[05:44] <ded_afanasiy> holy cow this chan is enormous
[05:44] <phr34ck> adinsx, comment the line of the CD
[05:44] <dmslack_> i am trying to set up a printer that uses a 'network print port', i have found a few sites online that report success doing this but i can't get it to work even following the steps they list
[05:44] <mnoir> adinsx: so just comment the cd in yer sources
[05:44] <Admiral_Chicago> adinsx: you may have to change your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:44] <phr34ck> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:44] <Tron2> iratik, okay thanks
[05:44] <phr34ck> put # before the first line I guess.
[05:44] <adinsx> ah i see
[05:44] <adinsx> alright gotcha
[05:44] <DeCaelo> Ahh, I see. I dunno, it's kind of a pain but one of those 'necessary evils' to prevent interdependencies from messing with eachother.
[05:44] <iratik> Anyone know how to manually hang up a modem in ubuntu ?
[05:45] <phr34ck> DeCaelo, I understand.
[05:45] <zerokarmaleft> not to mention very difficult to implement
[05:45] <phr34ck> Don't you think it's kinda limited?
[05:45] <Admiral_Chicago> iratik: what kind of modem? are you using dailup?
[05:45] <BTR> Hi, i used apt-get to download and install gnome, but it messed it all up. I can get to the loginscreen, but the screen turns black and go back to the loginscreen, i have triede to chooseboth kde, gnome and failsafe. how do i fix it?
[05:45] <phr34ck> I mean, they could have inserted more coding, where it scans all the packages and dependencies and then they let you delete whatever you're not using.
[05:46] <Admiral_Chicago> BTR: your X server is probably configured improperly
[05:46] <dmslack_> what do i need to do to set up a printer attached with a print server?
[05:46] <adinsx> fantastic, this works
[05:46] <iratik> Admiral_Chicago: Its actually for a fax server concerning hylafax ... i looked for the daemon using ps ax | grep fax ... nothing in init.d that i could reset
[05:46] <zerokarmaleft> phr34ck: deborphan does that
[05:46] <DeCaelo> I do think it is somewhat limited, however. As said above however, it would save you god knows how many headaches. If you still a huge program, that takes, say 4 hours to install, and during those 4 hours, you removed 5-10 other apps, and those apps had a dependency in the huge package you're installing.. it's just a headache man.
[05:46] <BTR> Admiral_Chicago: Im a total newbeginner in linux, how do i configure it?
[05:46] <phr34ck> Speacking of which, do you know any way of listening all the packages installed on a system, and the dependencies of each package?
[05:46] <DeCaelo> (sorry bout big post)
[05:46] <phr34ck> I would like to know what I have on my system.
[05:47] <jannu1> any idea wich driver will work with my R 9500 pro, (ati,radeon,xglrx) with direct rendering and Xinerama
[05:47] <jannu1> im now using "ati" driver and xinerama work fine but no direct rendering
[05:48] <LinAsH> jannu1, with dapper or edgy ?
[05:48] <jannu1> edgy
[05:48] <Aidy> hi
[05:48] <mn3> hi there i need some help with the ubuntu network connection
[05:49] <mn3> its really really slow any idea why ?
[05:49] <Aidy> i've got a problem, my friend (doesn't know much about linux) has a nforce 430 chipset, and those aren't supported by the .17 kernel, so he needs a newer one
[05:49] <DeCaelo> phr34ck: dpkg --get-selections > file-name, it will dump a list of repositories to 'file-name' so just replace with what file you wanna dump it to
[05:49] <BTR> Admiral_Chicago: How  do i configure my x propely, so i can use either kde or gnome?
[05:49] <Aidy> so how do you properly and easely do this in ubuntu?
[05:49] <jannu1> mn3 put your dns server manually
[05:49] <DeCaelo> err (by repository, sorry)
[05:49] <Aidy> could i get the feisty kernel image maybe?
[05:50] <Aidy> how's it called
[05:50] <jannu1> LinAsH u have any idea?
[05:50] <phr34ck> DeCaelo, like how ?
[05:50] <LinAsH> jannu1, try Option          "RenderAccess"          "true" and Option          "RenderAccel"           "true" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section "Device"
[05:50] <phr34ck> could you give me an example ?
[05:50] <anushsh> Hello
[05:50] <jannu1> LinAsH thx ill try
[05:50] <Aidy> what are the kernel packages in ubuntu called
[05:50] <Admiral_Chicago> BTR: wait, your log in screen is all black?
[05:50] <psynaps3> duh, what's the point in adding a keyring manager if you can't change the keyring password later? this is so not cool :)
[05:51] <Rookie_> !paste
[05:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:51] <BTR> Admiral_Chicago: no, it looks just lake it allways did, colourfull:)
[05:51] <LinAsH> jannu1, and see the /var/log/Xorg.0.log and look for errors
[05:51] <Admiral_Chicago> BTR: so when you log in, it's all black?
[05:51] <lemoniceblock> Hello~
[05:51] <BTR> Admiral_Chicago: yes for a second,then turns back to the loginscreen
[05:51] <Zaggynl> My usb device keeps resetting, what could cause this?
[05:52] <Admiral_Chicago> BTR: log into a fail safe terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:52] <lemoniceblock> I'm following the instructions here: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List (item #21)
[05:52] <BTR> Admiral_Chicago: ok, is it then  automated from there on?
[05:52] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[05:52] <anushsh> i havent been able install python-libuser on ubuntu Dapper
[05:52] <Admiral_Chicago> just follow the default options (hit enter)
[05:53] <anushsh> its gives some libc5 error
[05:53] <anushsh> can anyone help me about this
[05:53] <BTR> Admiral_Chicago: I will try it:) thanks!
[05:53] <Admiral_Chicago> BTR: gotta run, poke in #kubuntu-offtopic it helps
[05:54] <psynaps3> hey, need some help with this nm-applet (wireless), how can i prevent this utiliy from trying to automatically connect to the wireless network upon login?
[05:54] <jannu1> lets see what happens ->
[05:55] <seifip> How can I install more than 4 keyboard layouts in ubuntu?
[05:55] <madman2> how can you access another linux box to see their files?
[05:55] <IdleOne> !samba | madman2
[05:55] <ubotu> madman2: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:55] <zerokarmaleft> strange...vim-common is installed by default but not vim
[05:55] <Mike__> Can anyone tell me how to fix this. I am trying to go to monteryaquarium.or and veiw the cams and I am getting this message "No URI handler implemented for "mmsh"."
[05:56] <madman2> i meant between linux boxes.
[05:56] <zerokarmaleft> madman2: i use sshfs
[05:56] <LinAsH> seifip, how many keyboards do you have ??
[05:57] <seifip> I have one keyboard
[05:57] <madman2> i will try it zerokarmaleft
[05:57] <zerokarmaleft> just gotta have openssh-server on each box you want access to
[05:57] <madman2> this is common in linux file sharing?
[05:58] <LinAsH> seifip, why do you want more than one layout ?
[05:58] <Rookie_> !nfs
[05:58] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:58] <zerokarmaleft> madman2: i dunno how widespread it is, i just prefer it
[05:58] <IdleOne> Mike_: you need mplayerpluggin
[05:58] <Rookie_> if it is filesharing between 2 nix boxes, use nfs
[05:58] <madman2> good
[05:58] <jannu1> LinAsH still no direct render, what log i should look?
[05:58] <zerokarmaleft> madman2: nfs is also viable
[05:59] <iturk_> hi there i am trying to add a network printer using "Printers" in Gnome !! I am not shore what type of printer it is only that i know is that its in 10.10.22.174 IP and its a Samsung something Laser !! I know that in Windows i just give an IP and everythink falls from the sky !! Which type of printer should i select in order to just give the IP ??
[05:59] <seifip> LinAsH, I want to be able to write in English, Czech, Russian, French, German and Danish... just as I do in Windows
[05:59] <LinAsH> jannu1, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:59] <Mike__> IdleOne, ok. I will look for it.. Thanks
[05:59] <psynaps3> Jesus... whoever came up with this network manager interface should be shot :)
[05:59] <IdleOne> !multimedia | Mike_
[05:59] <ubotu> Mike_: For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:00] <IdleOne> Mike_: thanks for the cool link btw :) really nice
[06:00] <iturk_> psynaps3: is there anyone better ??
[06:00] <jannu1> hmm.. what kinda information i should look at :>
[06:00] <jannu1> (WW) RADEON(0): Option "RenderAccess" is not used
[06:00] <psynaps3> iturk_: i have no idea. though i think this is going to be the default in the next ubuntu release
[06:01] <zerokarmaleft> wow
[06:01] <zerokarmaleft> sudo apt-get remove --purge  --no-seriously-piss-off-with-your-broken-terminal-support  vim-tiny
[06:01] <jannu1> (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration unsupported on Radeon 9500/9700 and newer.
[06:01] <jannu1> (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration disabled
[06:01] <LinAsH> seifip, try scim or uim (I'm not really sure that can do the job)
[06:01] <jannu1> thats wierd
[06:01] <jannu1> weird*
[06:01] <SiR-HaCk> hi!
[06:01] <psynaps3> it doesn't even give the user the option to disable automatically connecting to the network
[06:01] <SiR-HaCk> Hi people!
[06:01] <iturk_> psynaps3: so i need to use it !! i would like to know how to identify the type of printers !!
[06:02] <jannu1> i have R 9500 pro
[06:02] <psynaps3> iturk_: printers? are we on the same page???
[06:03] <LameBMX> jannu1, where did you get those errors
[06:03] <LinAsH> jannu1, could you pastebin your xorg.conf
[06:03] <iturk_> psynaps3: my friend how do i know if the printer in 10.10.22.174 address is a samba a unix or cups printer ??
[06:03] <VMT2007> Is installing the Kubuntu meta package in regular Ubuntu safe
[06:03] <lufis> Is there any way to refresh gnome's menu without restarting gnome?
[06:03] <seifip> LinAsH, what is scim and uim? I'm quite new to Linux :/
[06:03] <jannu1> sec.
[06:04] <LinAsH> seifip, they are "input method module library supporting various languages"
[06:04] <tuna-fish-> dumb pipe-related question: how can I send just a single "spacebar press" to a pipe from command line? echo adds a newline...
[06:05] <LameBMX> tuna-fish-, did ya try "\" it
[06:05] <Mike__> IdleOne, ok. installed the player. however I am still getting the same message
[06:05] <tuna-fish-> hmm
[06:05] <VMT2007> Like, can I do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop on my regular (GNOME) Ubuntu installation without having to do a major rehaul of my system settings?
[06:05] <lufis> VMT2007: yes
[06:05] <VMT2007> Thanks
[06:06] <oldab> hi! is it possiblie to avoid automounting of all partitions during boot?
[06:06] <IntuitiveNipple> Any boot-time kernel ide-probe (PDC202xx) experts in right now?
[06:06] <gnutz> Hello got a qusetion
[06:06] <VMT2007> And I do not need to remove ubuntu-desktop, right?
[06:06] <IdleOne> Mike_: what is the exact error?
[06:06] <IntuitiveNipple> oldab - yes, by editing the /etc/fstab file I believe
[06:06] <dmslack_> what do i need to do to set up a printer attached with a print server?
[06:06] <lufis> VMT2007: do you want to install kde alongside gnome?
[06:06] <VMT2007> yes
[06:07] <oldab> IntuitiveNippel: did that with the "noauto" option - no success
[06:07] <lufis> VMT2007: then no, just install kde and select "kde" from the sessions menu in the login screen
[06:07] <Mike__> IdleOne,  Totem could not play 'mmsh://plankton.mbayaq.org/Kelp?MSWMExt=.asf'.
[06:07] <LinAsH> jannu1, you have two video-cards ? why two device section ?
[06:07] <gnutz> Can someone please help me
[06:07] <Mike__> IdleOne,  No URI handler implemented for "mmsh".
[06:07] <lufis> gnutz: don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[06:07] <gnutz> I have dual boot XP ntfs on fisrt part then EXT3 with Unbuntu on the 2nd part
[06:07] <jannu1> LinAsH 1 card, 2 displays, 19" 1280x1024 and second 17" 1024x768
[06:08] <gnutz> some times I'll boot outta XP and into Ubuntu and it will freeze
[06:08] <sjust1216> Hi all I am trying to copy my ubuntu install to a new drive
[06:08] <LinAsH> jannu1, ok I don't thinks dual screen is supported with 3D rendering
[06:08] <IdleOne> Mike_: did you look at the link ubotu gave you a few minutes ago? there is a section there on streaming video that might help. sorry dont know what else to suggest
[06:09] <jannu1> not even main display?
[06:09] <gnutz> Lifis is that the grub corrpting the MBR?
[06:09] <Mike__> I missed the link.. I will scroll back for it.. thanks
[06:09] <lufis> gnutz: if everything is booting fine, probably not
[06:09] <gnutz> what do u think that might be
[06:09] <lufis> gnutz: if ubuntu is just crashing it sounds like a software problem
[06:10] <gnutz>  I have used the recovery mode everything seems fine
[06:10] <lufis> gnutz: I don't know, does it freeze at any particular step in booting? like when x loads, etc.?
[06:10] <sjust1216> I used gparted to format and copy but when I went to resize it it gave an error and now it says that the partition is 95% full
[06:10] <jannu1> is there any other drivers that support dual display and direct rendering
[06:10] <gnutz> Im useing gnome and it just seems like it boogs about half way in the middle of the boot
[06:11] <gnutz> rec mode everything seems fine
[06:11] <lufis> gnutz: hmm
[06:11] <gnutz> but after booting in rec mode I dont know the bash commands to start gnome
[06:11] <RingDonut> Hi
[06:11] <LinAsH> jannu1, or try to adapt from this http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2006/04/23/3d-on-dual-head-ati-radeon-9200-se-on-ubuntu-breezy/
[06:11] <RingDonut> I need urgent help
[06:11] <lufis> gnutz: startx
[06:12] <gnutz> duuuh
[06:12] <jannu1> LinAsH thx ill try
[06:12] <madman2> how do i modify easily netgroups?
[06:12] <gnutz> I should know that
[06:12] <gnutz> Now I feel stupid
[06:12] <lufis> gnutz: don't :P
[06:12] <IntuitiveNipple> Can someone switch the forums back on!
[06:12] <gnutz> \So startx works for gnome?
[06:12] <RingDonut> My keyboard doesn't do anything until Ubuntu has booted!
[06:12] <lufis> gnutz: yes, gnome depends on Xorg
[06:12] <gnutz> ok
[06:12] <lufis> gnutz: if x isn't started gnome can't start
[06:13] <RingDonut> Can someone please help me?
[06:13] <gnutz>  I was a Kanotix user but I switched to Ubuntu because thier devs had major broblems with Xorg and upgraging useing Synaptic
[06:13] <RingDonut> Can someone please help me?
[06:13] <gnutz>  ext..
[06:13] <lufis> RingDonut: sure, what's the problem? :)
[06:13] <gnutz>  Ubuntu is way user friendly
[06:13] <gnutz>  Love it
[06:13] <IdleOne> RingDonut: what do you want it to do before ubuntu boots?
[06:13] <lufis> gnutz me too :)
[06:14] <madman2> i love it too
[06:14] <madman2> i just need to get rid of this windows addiction :s
[06:14] <RingDonut> lufis: I want to go into my BIOs by pressing DEL
[06:14] <jewbilee> ive only had experience with Mandriva 2006 and Ubuntu but Ubuntu seems much better
[06:14] <RingDonut> lufis: But the keyboard doesn't do anything
[06:14] <madman2> mandriva is so bad :s
[06:14] <jewbilee> lol
[06:14] <aiduciukas> Hi! I have problems with ubuntu dapper and ntfs-fuse, I did all operationt written i ubuntuguide.org and restarted computer, when I went to /media/windows it's empty
[06:14] <madman2> bloated i may add.
[06:14] <lufis> RingDonut: does it respond when the os is booted up?
[06:14] <jewbilee> I didnt really like KDE
[06:14] <HymnToLife> mandriva is evil
[06:15] <bunewb> hey i have a system with one sata drive and one ide drive, when installing installer wants to place grub on hda0, however i would like to place it on the sata drive, i entered sda but this failed, should i enter sda0 ? sda1 is my ext3 target install partition
[06:15] <aiduciukas> but it wrtites 12,7 GB free
[06:15] <gnutz> So does anyone know any good tweeks for making Gnome look somewhat like the docking bay in OSX?
[06:15] <RingDonut> lufis: Fine
[06:15] <jewbilee> ewwww osx :s
[06:15] <IdleOne> jewbilee: I run both mandriva 2007 and Ubuntu ( mainly ubuntu ) prefer ubuntu but Mandriva is nice also
[06:15] <madman2> lol
[06:15] <HymnToLife> in Mandriva 2007 there are ads during the install !
[06:15] <lufis> RingDonut: hm, i don't know.
[06:15] <HymnToLife> even M$ didn't go that far
[06:15] <madman2> serious?
[06:15] <madman2> damn
[06:15] <bunewb> !grub
[06:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:15] <BTR> Admiral_Chicago: it doesnt work:(
[06:15] <IdleOne> HymnToLife: what ads?
[06:15] <RingDonut> lufis: But before boot I can't even make the CAPS LOCK light go on
[06:16] <lufis> lufis: weird. try another keyboard maybe?
[06:16] <concept10> gnutz, its easy, just make it big
[06:16] <aiduciukas> Hi! I have problems with ubuntu dapper and ntfs-fuse, I did all operationt written i ubuntuguide.org and restarted computer, when I went to /media/windows it's empty
[06:16] <aiduciukas> but it wrtites 12,7 GB free
[06:16] <HymnToLife> IdleOne, for Cedega, CrossoverOffice and other software you have to pay for
[06:16] <gnutz> what do u mean Concept
[06:16] <gnutz> ?
[06:16] <madman2> :)
[06:16] <IdleOne> HymnToLife: yeah your right forgot about those ads hehe
[06:17] <madman2> is fluxbox popular?
[06:17] <concept10> gnutz, http://pastie.caboo.se/paste/asset/21490/Screenshot-2.png
[06:17] <IdleOne> madman2: yeah and it uses your capacitor to it's full potential
[06:17] <k0> aiduciukas, have you tryd using the terminal under root
[06:18] <RingDonut> How do I install Xubuntu?
[06:18] <madman2> capacitor ? lol
[06:18] <IdleOne> lol
[06:18] <aiduciukas> k0 yes
[06:18] <psynaps3> Gnome keyring manager feels like a toy, it should never have been included with edgy! waste piece of software
[06:18] <k0> aiduciukas, and yet u still cant see any files?
[06:18] <IdleOne> RingDonut: sudo apt-get install xfce4 then log out and chose xfce at login under sessions
[06:18] <aiduciukas> yes
[06:19] <RingDonut> IdleOne: I want to install it from a disc I burned
[06:19] <RingDonut> IdleOne: so it formats my hard drive at the same time
[06:19] <IdleOne> RingDonut: you want to do a fresh install of xubuntu?
[06:19] <brasko> any reason ntpdate isn't run when the machine is started?
[06:19] <k0> aiduciukas, i thought it might have been a permission problem but maybe ur fstab is wrong
[06:19] <RingDonut> IdleOne: Yep
[06:19] <IdleOne> then pop in the cd and reboot
[06:19] <brasko> or from the ntp-server script?
[06:19] <aiduciukas> k0, btw it writes my linux partition free space ;)
[06:19] <IdleOne> RingDonut: bios set to boot from cd first
[06:20] <RingDonut> IdleOne: I can't
[06:20] <madman2> any clues on why azureus crashes :s
[06:20] <aiduciukas> k0, here's my fstab: /dev/hdc1    /media/windows    ntfs-fuse    auto,gid=1002,umask=0002    0    0
[06:20] <aiduciukas> not all
[06:20] <madman2> i start it and closes automatically
[06:20] <RingDonut> IdleOne: my keyboard won't work until Ubuntu boots
[06:20] <bunewb> ok to rephrase my question, if i one wants to install grub to the only sata drive, would it be (sd0) during the installer? i would like to install to the mbr and not the superblock of the target partition of sda1, so far tried (sda) but installer errored
[06:20] <concept10> madman2, the version in the repository sucks, use the regular version
[06:20] <BTR> Can i uninstall gnome-desktop via apt?
[06:20] <gnutz> \COncept nice one
[06:20] <madman2> will do
[06:20] <madman2> thanks
[06:21] <gnutz> I know hoto tweek KDE big time but a lil lost in Gnome
[06:21] <gnutz>  I like it way better though because its way more stable
[06:21] <k0> aiduciukas, giv me a sec dude im kinda new soo jus gona check sometin out
[06:21] <RingDonut> IdleOne: any suggestions?
[06:21] <IdleOne> RingDonut: maybe you need to hit ESC instead of delete
[06:22] <IdleOne> some machines are different
[06:22] <concept10> gnutz, if you want it simple, just make icons in the bottom dock, and make it transparent
[06:22] <AmBAr>  I'm trying redirect a connection to other port with NETCAT , netcat -l -p 2323 -vv -c netcat 127.0.0.1 2222  , but this dont work :(
[06:22] <RingDonut> IdleOne: no, even the CAPS LOCK light doesn't come on until ubuntu has booted
[06:22] <DeCaelo> anyone seen Burgundavia around lately?
[06:22] <IdleOne> !seen burgundavia
[06:23] <ubotu> I haven't seen burgundavia recently
[06:23] <phr34ck> Any of you know a good compiler for C++? I want something like Microsoft Visual C++
[06:23] <HymnToLife> !gcc
[06:23] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:23] <RingDonut> IdleOne: it's like theres no power going to the keyboard
[06:23] <LinAsH> phr34ck, you mean a good IDE ?
[06:23] <nilsl> HymnToLife: Is taht like MS Visual C++?
[06:23] <nilsl> *that
[06:23] <nilsl> ...
[06:23] <IdleOne> RingDonut: sounds like your in a pickle. not sure what to tell you. maybe try a diff keyboard see if it makes a difference
[06:23] <phr34ck> I tried Anjuta, but I didn't like it.
[06:23] <HymnToLife> no, but it's a "good compiler for C++" :)
[06:23] <phr34ck> I don't know, it's way too not familiar.'
[06:23] <edlead> take eclipse
[06:24] <edlead> with cdt plugin
[06:24] <nilsl> HymnToLife: Yes, but he didn't ask for that. ;)
[06:24] <DeCaelo> Phr34ck: Eclipse is great.
[06:24] <phr34ck> I already have g++
[06:24] <RingDonut> TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
[06:24] <RingDonut> TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
[06:24] <HymnToLife> !ops
[06:24] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[06:24] <RingDonut> oOPS
[06:24] <madman2> i love linux :)
[06:24] <HymnToLife> lmao
[06:24] <phr34ck> DeCaelo, that's what I'm downloading, but it's taking forever.
[06:24] <DeCaelo> Worth the wait amigo :)
[06:24] <HymnToLife> DBO, sorry, just some keyb testing I guess :)
[06:24] <IdleOne> DBO: I dont think he meant to do that
[06:25] <sjust1216> would any one know why gparted would fill a partition after an error
[06:25] <DBO> oh I see
[06:25] <IdleOne> welcome back RingDonut
[06:25] <RingDonut> Why was I kicked?
[06:25] <DeCaelo> sjust1216: whenever i install ubuntu on my SATA, i get an error after each partition but its fine after lol
[06:25] <DBO> RingDonut, thought you were spamming
[06:25] <IdleOne> because of all them T's
[06:25] <phr34ck> Lets hope ecplise does the job.
[06:25] <nilsl> T
[06:25] <RingDonut> I leant on my keyboard
[06:25] <nilsl> \o/
[06:25] <RingDonut> :(
[06:25] <IdleOne> lmfaO
[06:25] <nilsl> RingDonut: Don't you EVER do that again here! :D
[06:25] <phr34ck> I'm going to get heart attack if it didn't work .. I've been downloading it since this mornig
[06:26] <RingDonut> nilsl: :S
[06:26] <Gosha> is there no flash player 8 for linux?
[06:26] <sjust1216> but it shows the partition as 95% full and this is a 120 gig drive
[06:26] <nilsl> Gosha: Sure is.
[06:26] <RingDonut> lol
[06:26] <jewbilee> Why is totem playing quitely despite my system volume being up all the way?
[06:26] <nilsl> Gosha: Oh, wait ... Is there? Hm ...
[06:26] <Gosha> !flash
[06:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:26] <laforge> Is there a "task manager" for ubuntu?
[06:26] <aiduciukas> gnome-system-monitor
[06:27] <RingDonut> Of course
[06:27] <HymnToLife> GoodSoft, not that I know of, but there's Flash 9 :)
[06:27] <Gosha> laforge, of course
[06:27] <concept10> laforge, htop
[06:27] <k0> aiduciukas, sry man dnt think i be able to help
[06:27] <sjust1216> I am trying to copy my ubuntu install to a lager hard drive
[06:27] <fowlduck> sjust1216: dd
[06:27] <fowlduck> :)
[06:28] <[GuS] > Hi guys!... which tool i could use to convert .uif images files to .iso.. or just extract it?
[06:28] <IdleOne> sjust1216: man dd for info
[06:28] <aiduciukas> k0 what ever, thanks dude ;)
[06:28] <sjust1216> can I do that from inside ubuntu
[06:28] <IdleOne> sjust1216: yes
[06:29] <fowlduck> from a live cd
[06:29] <sjust1216> ok I will get rid of what I have done and try that
[06:29] <sjust1216> thanks
[06:29] <fowlduck> dd won't work well from the running system if you're trying to copy the running system
[06:29] <fowlduck> i seriously wouldn't recommend it
[06:29] <IdleOne> hmm yeah I was just thinking that
[06:29] <fowlduck> seriously
[06:30] <madman2> what is the program that monitors cpu  and disk space, not gkrellm...
[06:30] <fowlduck> the real question is why wouldn't you just reinstall, since it's so fast and trivial?  then you can just copy over your home directory, pretty much, but hey, do as you like
[06:30] <Skyrail> Rhythmbox has crashed but now it won't open the interface, I have a feeling it may still be running in the background, how can I kill it?
[06:30] <laforge> If I set up a IRC server how do I connect to with?  Like since you have to connect to "FreeNode"
[06:30] <oldab> exit
[06:30] <yukio> Can someone tell me what kind of packages can i exactly find in Backports repo?
[06:31] <mnoir> !backports
[06:31] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[06:31] <k0> Skyrail, command "killall"
[06:31] <concept10> gnutz, http://pastie.caboo.se/paste/asset/30701/Screenshot.png
[06:31] <Skyrail> k0: what will that close though?
[06:31] <psynaps3> does anyone know how i can prevent network manager from autoconnecting at bootup?
[06:31] <IdleOne> laforge: command would be /server whatever.you.named-the-server.com
[06:32] <RingDonut> !usplash
[06:32] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[06:32] <laforge> IdleOne, Ok Thanks
[06:32] <k0> Skyrail, killall and rhy autotab
[06:32] <Skyrail> ok thanks
[06:32] <k0> shud auto tab
[06:32] <Skyrail> worked thanks k0
[06:33] <RancidLM> hey all, i installed ubuntu and used ndiswrapper to get my wifi working but it seems that my System->administration->Networking  doesn't work now... the only way i can administer my networking is threw wifiradar is there a way to get the networking Tool working again so i can configure a wired network?
[06:34] <DeCaelo> Happy New Year to all Ubuntu users! If you use Windows, well...
[06:34] <madman2> deCaelo if i dual boot? am i included lol
[06:34] <DeCaelo> hrmmm good question. To be, or not to be.
[06:35] <IntuitiveNipple> RancidLM: Aren't they mutually exclusive? I'm pretty sure I recall it was either/or
[06:35] <madman2> lol
[06:35] <Phil2> hi all: anyone else running dapper getting gzip errors today with synaptic software repository on the main/binary-i386 channel?
[06:35] <DeCaelo> *dramatic pose*
[06:35] <laforge> Where would the config file be located for ircd-hybrid?
[06:35] <RancidLM> IntuitiveNipple: well i had to go the rout of wifiradar because the Networking tool wasn't picking up the Ndiswrapper wifi card
[06:35] <jewbilee> Can someone help me get my wireless card working?
[06:35] <Mike__> ubotu, I am still lost after reading the information of why I can't view a cam on the montery website
[06:36] <IntuitiveNipple> Rancid - had a similar experience recently with Edgy Eft and a Vaio notebook
[06:36] <httped> how do you add a command to /etc/rc.local which requires sudo to run?
[06:36] <Mike__> oops
[06:36] <yukio> Sorry, how can i open .rar files?
[06:36] <RingDonut> !flash
[06:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:36] <madman2> in ubuntu 6.10, i got a cpu monitor that tells me my cpu is running @ 800mhz?
[06:37] <laforge> httped, try "sudo gedit /etc/rc.local"
[06:37] <RingDonut> lol
[06:37] <IntuitiveNipple> I was trying to get the internal Hermes II card to work with WPA2 - I used NDISwrapper to support a Linsys PC-Bus card with WPA2 successfully, but never got it to support the Hermes II.
[06:37] <Phil2> madman2, what cpu do you have and what kernel are you running?
[06:37] <madman2> Pentium M @ 2ghz
[06:37] <jewbilee> Can someone help me get my wireless card working?
[06:37] <IntuitiveNipple> But, Network Manager handled the NDISwrapper card automagically without radar, etc
[06:37] <madman2> how do i find what kernel version i got
[06:37] <Phil2> madman2, run uname -r
[06:37] <httped> laforge, I do not want to edit it. I want to add a command into it but ubuntu does not execute it when the system rebooted since it requires root priv
[06:37] <bunewb> if i want to install grub to my sata (system has one sata, one ide drive, bios is set to boot from sata) during the installer, which label do i need to enter? installer automatically selects hd0 (ide drive) however target partition is sda1 and would like to install grub to the mbr of the sata drive
[06:37] <IntuitiveNipple> madman2: uname -r, or uname -a
[06:38] <madman2> 2.6.17-10 generic
[06:38] <laforge> httped, heh sorry then way beyond what I know ):
[06:38] <httped> laforge, I have already added the command.
[06:38] <bunewb> i tried sda, and sda0 within the installer, both failed with fatal error, now unplugged the ide drive and hoping it will auto detect
[06:38] <Phil2> madman2, it doesn't say "386" or "686" or something like that?
[06:38] <madman2> no
[06:38] <eternal_p> good afternoon all...i'm just wondering, does anyone know how to disable the splash screen from Beryl on startup?
[06:38] <madman2> i686
[06:38] <madman2> sorry wrong uname option
[06:39] <madman2> Linux madman 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:39] <Phil2> madman2, the i686 is the proper kernel, so you're good there
[06:39] <yukio> Sorry, how can i open .rar files?
[06:39] <Phil2> madman2, let me think for a minute...
[06:39] <madman2> thanks
[06:39] <Soir> yukio: unrar is good
[06:40] <castoff> i have an install hanging at 87% where does the install dump its logs so i can see what is failing?
[06:40] <yukio> Can i use the default archiver to open .rar files?
[06:40] <mnoir> yukio: 1.  probably not.  2. tias
[06:40] <Phil2> madman2, i wonder if it's reporting the fsb instead of the fsbXmultiplier?
[06:40] <RingDonut> How do I burn an ISO image into a bootable disc?
[06:41] <mnoir> !iso
[06:41] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[06:41] <madman2> hmm
[06:41] <Keeguon> !burn
[06:41] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[06:41] <madman2> should be 533mhz
[06:41] <mnoir> !burn | RingDonut
[06:41] <madman2> as a fsb.
[06:41] <ubotu> RingDonut: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[06:41] <Phil2> madman2, fsb is 533?
[06:41] <madman2> yes
[06:41] <pete_> ayup
[06:42] <castoff> anyone know where the installer places its logs?
[06:42] <pete_> how do I install kernel headers?
[06:42] <Phil2> madman2, you got me stumped on this one.  maybe someone else can help.
[06:42] <madman2> thanks :)
[06:42] <pete_> and build essentials?
[06:42] <mnoir> pete_: use apt-get, synaptic
[06:42] <Vigo> Greetings
[06:42] <pete_> thankyou
[06:42] <mnoir> pete_: same answer
[06:43] <mnoir> for build-essentials
[06:43] <pete_> thankyou mnoir
[06:43] <mnoir> np :)
[06:43] <RingDonut> how do I delete my custom away messages that I made on GAIM
[06:43] <RingDonut> ???
[06:43] <madman2> how you guys got rid of your windows addiction? seriously. :s
[06:43] <Soir> castoff: if you can get to them with a half-installed system, it should be /var/log
[06:43] <mnoir> madman2: replaced with linux addiction
[06:43] <aloyarc> yes, yes, yes, artrage2 works under wine in *buntu !
[06:43] <madman2> :)
[06:43] <madman2> always got that
[06:43] <Soir> madman2: windows is only an addiction if you think there's no other way :)
[06:44] <castoff> i was hoping i could tail it during another install attempt...i'll look there
[06:44] <madman2> i am working on that :)
[06:44] <pete_> mnoir; "E: Invalid operation synaptic
[06:44] <pete_> "
[06:44] <mnoir> one dat at a time?
[06:44] <mnoir> pete_: apt-get and synaptic are two different ways of installing anything
[06:44] <mnoir> !software
[06:44] <ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents and !Offline
[06:45] <pete_> oh I see
[06:45] <Vigo> If my system no longers offers me a boot screen to , win2k ,ubuntu , reinstall will repair? cause I spent like a week getting ATI to work....
[06:45] <mnoir> :)
[06:45] <pete_> whats the atp-get comaand for headers and b.e?
[06:45] <mnoir> Vigo: does anything boot at all?
[06:45] <madman2> i just need to take it one step @ a  time
[06:46] <Ace2016> Hi all
[06:46] <hjmills> Vigo: no - you just need to reinstall grub - the boot loader
[06:46] <hjmills> !grub > Vigo
[06:46] <Vigo> mnoir: Nothing, the drive is still listed
[06:46] <pete_> !headers
[06:46] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[06:46] <hjmills> !grub | Vigo
[06:46] <ubotu> Vigo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:46] <Vigo> Thank you
[06:46] <Ace2016> Is there a replacement for make which can do make --resume, because its annoying when compiles stop or beryl crashes and if its an app like firefox being compiled
[06:46] <linda777> I'm working through the "Ubuntu Unleased" book with 6.06. There seem to be several important commands missing from my shell. I can't use "which" or "Path" or "user" commands, though the book says they are integral to what I'm going to e doing.
[06:47] <linda777> Is there something I don't have installed correctly?
[06:47] <mnoir> Ace2016: make should always resume at an appropriate point
[06:47] <hjmills> linda777: what is Path meant to do?
[06:47] <linda777> Set the default location of executables, etc.
[06:47] <pete_> !build essentials
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build essentials - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <Ace2016> mnoir: oh, so mine must restarted since the last time it finished it finished with an error
[06:48] <pete_> !buildessentials
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessentials - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <hjmills> linda777: thats all in the PATH variable which is set on system startup from /etc/environment - try reading that file using "less /etc/environment"
[06:48] <IdleOne> !build-essential | linda777
[06:48] <ubotu> linda777: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:48] <hjmills> linda777: press q to quit less
[06:48] <Vigo> Ubuntu has to be the best Linux Distro I have ever used yet.
[06:49] <mnoir> Ace2016: make looks at the work that is done and is supposed to determine what is useable.  if you alter something to fix an error it may back up to a point further back than you expect
[06:49] <linda777> What about "Which" and some of these other commands I don't have?
[06:49] <linda777> I also don't have "tree"
[06:49] <newbuntu> hello
[06:49] <mnoir> !info tree
[06:49] <ubotu> tree: displays directory tree, in color. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.0-2 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 92 kB
[06:49] <hjmills> linda777: i dont have tree or user either
[06:49] <IdleOne> linda777: sudo apt-get install tree
[06:49] <aoupi> linda777: it's case sensitive, make sure you enter 'which' not 'Which'
[06:49] <linda777> My question is, why are these things no installed with the shell by default?
[06:49] <mnoir> linda777: same reason the sky is blue
[06:50] <hjmills> check you are using the version of ubuntu the book was written for?
[06:50] <Vigo> I use that other pad thing for playing with the Terminal.
[06:50] <Ace2016> mnoir: oh i get it, i just wanted to avoid the list of entering and leaving directories it prints out while its doing that
[06:50] <linda777> mnoir: I am certain it's not that.
[06:50] <mnoir> somebody liked it that way
[06:50] <hjmills> mnoir: because light at that end of the wavelength refracts more than light at the other end?
[06:50] <linda777> But the reference I have indicates that these are installed by default.
[06:50] <hawk> mnoir: Refraction?
[06:50] <linda777> I am typing "which" all lower case.
[06:50] <mnoir> Ace2016: if that annoys you you can pipe it to a file
[06:50] <tiede> Not to important. But has it's purposes... How do you make a panel Auto-hide horizontally, when it's orientation is either Down or Up? The manual hide buttons do what I want, but autohide doesn't do nothing. Except if it is at the bottom of the screen, it hides it vertically.... They are setup like sliders, so vertically hiding them won't work. I need them to be hidden horiontally. Any idea how I can make that happen?
[06:50] <hjmills> linda777: btw - tree is cool!
[06:50] <IdleOne> linda777: because if everything was installed by default you would have a 48 cd install fior ubuntu :)
[06:50] <linda777> I heart tree.
[06:50] <newbuntu> I was wondering if someone could please help me with a problem ... I was trying to get fglrx working for tv-out on an ati card on my PC, now when I boot it takes KDE 5 to 8 minutes to show my desktop after logging in and I have 2 xsessions running in task manager
[06:51] <linda777> IdleOne: I know, but these are basic shell things...
[06:51] <mnoir> Ace2016: or discard, which i do not recommend
[06:51] <fotoflo2> hey
[06:51] <fotoflo2> is VNC the thing to use if i want to do remote desktop?
[06:51] <aoupi> what does tree do, is it like du but without all the filesizes?
[06:51] <hjmills> linda777: tree isnt - its just a gui program that is almost the same as ls -lR i think
[06:51] <mnoir> linda777: tree aint basic to me - ive never used it
[06:51] <Vigo> fotoflo2 Yes
[06:51] <newbuntu> What I believe is that ive screwed up my xorg.conf , and its backup because ive tried reverting back to the orignal
[06:52] <hjmills> mnoir: its $(ls -R) with indentation
[06:52] <linda777> It's just frustrating, b/c "Unleasing Ubuntu" came with a distro disk, and half the stuff in the first few chapters are not included in the distro they use.
[06:52] <IdleOne> linda777: install it. sudo apt-get install tree
[06:52] <Soir> linda777: basic because the book says so, or because a channel of dedicated users think so? :)
[06:52] <Soir> linda777: weirdness on the part of the book then
[06:52] <mnoir> hjmills: there you go - not only useless to me but available without 'tree' :)
[06:52] <linda777> Good point, Soir. I thought this was a pretty standard text...
[06:52] <hjmills> mnoir: im sure a v simple bash script could give you that indentation if you REALLY needed it
[06:53] <linda777> It's like somebody took a fedora book and just did a search and replace...
[06:53] <mnoir> linda777: welcome to unix :)  land of a thousand standards
[06:53] <pete_> howto shutdown xserver?
[06:53] <newbuntu> Now what I want to do is transfer the PC's files to my laptop and install edgy (the pc has dapper), what is the easiest way to transfer files from a PC (ubuntu) to a laptop (ubuntu) ?
[06:53] <Mike__> Does anyone else know how to fix this error  Totem could not play 'mmsh://plankton.mbayaq.org/Kelp?MSWMExt=.asf'.
[06:53] <hjmills> linda777: how much does it use tree?
[06:53] <aoupi> pete_: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:53] <linda777> Just for a few pages, I can live without it.
[06:53] <pete_> thanks
[06:53] <Mike__>   No URI handler implemented for "mmsh".
[06:53] <linda777> Besides, the cover is really pretty, and it's heavy enough to kill a rat.
[06:53] <hjmills> linda777: also - if you haven't found it yet - tab completion is your friend
[06:53] <hjmills> !tabcompletion
[06:53] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:53] <newbuntu> is FTP an option through a LAN cord?
[06:53] <linda777> Yeah, but tab completion only works if I *have* what I'm trying to complete.
[06:53] <linda777> A bunch of this junk isn't there.
[06:54] <tiede> So no one knows of some hidden Gconf key or script that can force a panel to autohide horizontally?
[06:54] <hjmills> linda777: but it can also find u programs that may do what you want - you said user was missing so try user<tab><tab> and it will list all the progs beginning with "user" so you can see if they work
[06:54] <Soir> newbuntu: you could ftp, you could network and use nfs, you could use dvds or external hard drives or other media... lots of ways :)
[06:54] <mnoir> hjmills: the fanct autocomplete is da bomb as far as I am concerned
[06:54] <mnoir> it autocompletes like everything
[06:54] <winston> Hi, is there a way to change the screen gamma?
[06:54] <Moofius> were can I find the ubuntu live-cd (that also have the option to install ubuntu from it)?
[06:55] <hjmills> fanct>
[06:55] <hjmills> ?
[06:55] <linda777> I see, I've got a handful of user commands.
[06:55] <mnoir> fancy*
[06:55] <hjmills> mnoir:  ah ok - is that what im using?
[06:55] <Vigo> winston: Yes
[06:55] <mnoir> hjmills: ya gotta enable it - look in yer bashrc for a clue
[06:55] <IntuitiveNipple> Moofius: It's on the Ubuntu download web pages as an ISO
[06:55] <Wanderer> !dpkg kernel
[06:55] <ubotu> dpkg: package maintenance system for Debian. In component main, is required. Version 1.13.22ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 1587 kB, installed size 4892 kB
[06:55] <Vigo> !gamma correction
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gamma correction - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <Vigo> !gamma
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gamma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <Wanderer> !build kernel
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build kernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <Moofius> IntuitiveNipple: where?
[06:56] <Vigo> Oh well
[06:56] <winston> cunning name :)
[06:56] <fotoflo2> do i need to install a vnc server on ubuntu or does one already exist? if i need to install one, whats the best one?
[06:56] <mnoir> hjmills: look for programmable completion
[06:56] <jewbilee> Can anyone suggest a good site to learn the basics of terminal use?
[06:56] <Moofius> I only get to a country-selection and then three choices
[06:56] <jewbilee> I feel as though Im not using linux properly because I don't know how to use the terminal
[06:56] <Vigo> winston: I am not on it, butr it is in the Settings
[06:56] <winston> chrs
[06:56] <aoupi> jewbilee: http://linuxcommand.org/
[06:56] <mnoir> !basic
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about basic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <daedra> jewbilee: terminal r0x0rz
[06:57] <mnoir> !bash
[06:57] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:57] <jewbilee> daedra: thats why im trying to learn hahah
[06:57] <linda777> jewbilee: I've got an Ubuntu book that's full of mythical terminal commands.
[06:57] <jewbilee> mythical?
[06:57] <linda777> Yes. Some exist, some do not, it really adds an element of excitement to the CLI
[06:57] <Vigo> !screen setting
[06:57] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5.6.10 (edgy), package size 570 kB, installed size 976 kB
[06:58] <jewbilee> linda: thats quite funny, i bet the suspense is killer when you find one that works
[06:58] <Moofius> Service Temporarily Unavailable
[06:58] <Moofius> The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.
[06:58] <Vigo> winston: wich version are you useing?
[06:58] <Moofius> on ubuntu.com
[06:58] <logivision> Hey all. I have a window's program I need to get working on Ubuntu. What's the best way ?
[06:58] <mnoir> linda777: many will be installable packages
[06:58] <linda777> It's a big payoff when one works, I'll tell you... Thanks for the tree info guys, that's working now.
[06:58] <newbuntu> Soir how would you do it to connect the pc to laptop to transfer a bunch of files...
[06:58] <Moofius> is the ubuntu-site closed?
[06:58] <winston> edgy
[06:58] <linda777> Thanks mnoir.
[06:58] <Soir> logivision: the 'best' way is to find a linux program ;) but if you can't do that, try wine
[06:58] <Moofius> and why?
[06:59] <IdleOne> logivision: what program?
[06:59] <linda777> I'm guessing I can also search for them in Synaptec?
[06:59] <IntuitiveNipple> Moofius: Yes, it looks like it is
[06:59] <mnoir> Moofius: nobody likes ubuntu anyway - nobody uses it :)
[06:59] <Vigo> !wine
[06:59] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:59] <IntuitiveNipple> The forums were down for maintainance earlier, too
[06:59] <Moofius> mnoir: well, what to use then?
[06:59] <Vigo> !beryl
[06:59] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:59] <newbuntu> linda777 apt-cache search <program>
[07:00] <DeCaelo> Except Mark Shuttleworth.
[07:00] <epitron> mnoir: nobody likes jokes why would anyone make a joke
[07:00] <fotoflo2> do i need to install a vnc server on ubuntu or does one already exist? if i need to install one, whats the best one?
[07:00] <Ash-Fox> !alsa
[07:00] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[07:00] <Soir> newbuntu: Well, either both to each other via crossover or wireless, or both to a hub/switch/similar via normal cable
[07:00] <DeCaelo> I always found it'd be funny if we heard news of him knocking out Gates in a bar or something.
[07:00] <Vigo> I love a go0od joke!
[07:00] <IntuitiveNipple> Moofius: try this mirror http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/
[07:00] <logivision> Soir: There isn't a linux version. It's a Point Of Sale program. We've been told there is a way to get it to work on linux, but the company doesn't support it. I'm trying to use CrossOver but It's not able to work with it. CrossOver is a better version of Wine, correct ?
[07:00] <linda777> newbuntu: Is there a way to force it to search for an exact string?
[07:00] <epitron> Vigo: i guess mine wasn't a good joke ;)
[07:00] <epitron> I'll try harder next time!
[07:01] <mnoir> linda777: you might find synaptic easier to use to search packages
[07:01] <newbuntu> linda777 you got me there, but yes probably
[07:01] <aoupi> linda777: I usualy do: apt-cache search blaha | grep blaha, since it searches in the description and name but only prints the name and short description
[07:01] <Vigo> All jokes are good, some do not allow the laughter to flow, tghere problem, not mine.
[07:01] <Soir> logivision: crossover is a version of wine tailored to use with specific programs by ms and adobe; you're better off with real wine
[07:02] <mnoir> Vigo: unfortunately, in a multi-cultural, multi-language group, jokes do not work....
[07:02] <mnoir> uuh - SOME jokes
[07:02] <DeCaelo> Except Bush jokes ;)
[07:02] <Ash-Fox> logivision, I use crossover and wine together.
[07:02] <IntuitiveNipple> oh i dunno, tryin saying "Windows" and you'll hear a lot of laughter :D
[07:02] <logivision> Soir: Thanks. I'm not sure how familiar  you are with the program but I'm going to need to access a MS server during installation and everyday use.
[07:03] <Vigo> True, chicken crossed the road is allways a funny one
[07:03] <xtknight> doh...ubuntuforums.org is down...any idea when it will be back up?
[07:03] <bazsl> I am new to Linux, have installed Ubuntu server and am trying to configure networking. What is the easiest most intuitive text editor to use to edit /etc/network/interfaces?
[07:03] <logivision> Soir: The program automatically looks for "My Network Neighbourhood" which is the problem.
[07:03] <IdleOne> bazsl: nano
[07:03] <mnoir> bazsl: you like gui or commandline
[07:03] <IdleOne> bazsl: gedit
[07:04] <aoupi> linda777: apt-cache --names-only search appname
[07:04] <EnsignRedshirt> Anyone here using a Wacom tablet?
[07:04] <Vigo> nano and gedit are great, OpenOffice has some also
[07:04] <jewbilee> can anyone tell me a way to change the color of the terminal font and background?
[07:04] <hjmills> mnoir: thanks - what are the main differences? I dont wanna read that long /etc/bash_completion script to try and work it out?
[07:05] <bazsl> mnoir: Ubunto server does not have X installed AFAIK so it must be a command line editor.
[07:05] <jewbilee> Wait, i think i found it
[07:05] <linda777> jewbilee: Right click the window and change the profile
[07:05] <Vigo> jewbilee: Settings>Monitor>somewhere in there
[07:05] <EnsignRedshirt> I'm considering getting a tablet (possibly the Graphire4 4x5"),  but I want to be sure it will work in Ubuntu.
[07:05] <fotoflo2> !ping jaist.dl.sourceforge.net
[07:05] <linda777> jewbilee: It's "edit the profile"
[07:05] <mnoir> bazsl: i prefer vim
[07:06] <IdleOne> jewbilee: in terminal Edit > Current profile will give you a window with plenty of options
[07:06] <linda777> bazsl: pico is really easy to use.
[07:06] <keithhhhh> sorry but can someone tell me how to install fonts  :( I cant seem to.
[07:06] <aoupi> pico
[07:06] <Ash-Fox> Gah, I can't remember what that command was for setting 'default' alsa devices (the device that takes first place). I know there is a method todo it via asound.conf and kernel module tricks, but I'm pretty sure I used a command in the past. I can't remember what it was
[07:06] <linda777> bazsl: vi is reallly confusing if you're not used to it.
[07:06] <aoupi> pico = nano in ubuntu
[07:07] <HymnToLife> !fonts | keithhhhh
[07:07] <ubotu> keithhhhh: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:07] <mnoir> hjmills: they have attempted to build completion for anything that it makes sense fo.
[07:07] <mnoir> fo=for
[07:07] <xai> looking for an ASUS  AMD-dual core mobo that is well supported under ubuntu. Please advise. so far i've been steered towards M2V K8T890.
[07:07] <mnoir> hjmills: basically, whenever i am in terminal i hit tab alot and discover stuff :)\
[07:07] <Vigo> Ok, the path is fixed, am I permitted to test Fiesty with apt get? or do I download?
[07:08] <jewbilee> how do I know if im logged in as root?
[07:08] <aoupi> jewbilee: there is a # at the end of the prompt in the terminal
[07:08] <mnoir> Vigo: not sure what you are asking - feisty repos work just like others
[07:08] <aoupi> jewbilee: or just enter whoami
[07:08] <Vigo> mnoir: Thank you
[07:08] <mnoir> jewbilee: hopefully you are not, but id is the command
[07:09] <jewbilee> aoupi: if whoami return my name as opposed to root im ok right?
[07:09] <aoupi> jewbilee: yea
[07:09] <jewbilee> aoupi: ok
[07:09] <aoupi> jewbilee: try sudo whoami to see difference
[07:09] <jewbilee> aoupi: ahh, thanks
[07:11] <calvarez> how do I install wordpress in ubuntu?
[07:11] <linda777> Wordpress has an incredibly clear "5 minute install" calvarez
[07:11] <aoupi> calvarez: sudo apt-get install wordpress
[07:12] <Moofius> http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/ <- but were can I find the live-cd?!?!
[07:12] <apokryphos> Moofius: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[07:12] <linda777> Moofius: The desktop CD is also the live CD. Burn the iso.
[07:12] <rtking> moof try yeah that
[07:12] <Moofius> but I do not have so much ram
[07:13] <linda777> Then the live CD isn't going to help you...
[07:13] <peanutb> it seems the ubuntu website is giving out 503 errors
[07:13] <Moofius> I tested the other, but it was some strange blue thingyes
[07:14] <Moofius> just some big blue dots were floating around and then just lots of flickering
[07:14] <hjmills_> mnoir: he wants intuitive and vim - though i love it and it rocks - isnt that intuitive - nano is better on that front
[07:14] <rtking> linda might i as to msg me?
[07:15] <hjmills_> mnoir: oops - that was meant to be sent a while back - sorry
[07:15] <mnoir> hjmills_: :) but I find nano less intuitive :)  simpler but less intuitive
[07:15] <Vigo__> http://www.kubuntu.org/ is up
[07:16] <mnoir> hjmills_: my finger memory has vi imprinted on it
[07:16] <hjmills_> mnoir: how come? i think vim would be more confusing to the average user with the modal design - i remember trying to quit it when a forum post told me to use it...
[07:16] <hjmills_> mnoir: oh ok - lol
[07:17] <mnoir> :)
[07:17] <EnsignRedshirt> nano would be even nicer if the control keys matched either the linux or windows conventions.  Ctrl-O to save? sheesh.
[07:18] <linda777> rtking: Check your pm window...
[07:18] <rtking> yeah i know i am banned from prv asking you
[07:19] <rtking> Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but
[07:19] <Moofius> But were can I find the right one for me, I am using parallels on mac and I plan to use 64 mb memory, the alternate just makes the parallels-window flicker (choosed linux/debian, 64 mb memory, otherwise the original settings)
[07:19] <HymnToLife> !register | rtking
[07:19] <ubotu> rtking: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:20] <Moofius> it flickers and shows some strange colors
[07:20] <linda777> THis pm is getting so built up now...
[07:20] <jewbilee> how can I go about changing the source for a program like amaroK?
[07:20] <rtking> thanks anyway
[07:20] <rtking> did you see my q?
[07:21] <mnoir> jewbilee: d/l source, change,recompile, be happy
[07:21] <HymnToLife> jewbilee, either get the source package from the repos or get it from http://amarok.kde.org
[07:21] <linda777> Nope, ask away.
[07:21] <Vigo____> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ Site is up
[07:22] <rtking> can i dcc the full disc to whoever asks in room or is that not allowed?
[07:22] <cello_rasp> what's a good, simple replacement for xmms?
[07:22] <calvarez> ok, I have mysql installed, when I try to run it from the CLi I get the following error: "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)"
[07:22] <linda777> You can ask, my official rank is that I am the 975th most knowledgable person currently in this channel.
[07:22] <cello_rasp> rtking: use bit torrent if it is legal
[07:23] <winston> 975th, lol
[07:23] <linda777> Well, 976th now.
[07:23] <rtking> i know ubuntu is legal
[07:23] <MarcN> calvarez: is mysqld started?
[07:23] <linda777> Someone else came on.
[07:23] <ambimom> linda777: that's about a million higher than me rofl
[07:23] <cello_rasp> rtking: if it is already available then why not use the existing torrent?
[07:23] <calvarez> MarcN, I haven't started it, I just installed the packages through synaptic
[07:23] <yukito> ambimom, there aren't that many people in this channel
[07:24] <calvarez> MarcN, I had the impression that after apt-getting it, the daemon would start automatically
[07:24] <MarcN> calvarez: first time startup may take a minute or two.  It needs to create some initial tables.
[07:24] <ambimom> yukito:  in knowledge I'm at the bottom them
[07:24] <michael117> What is a good size for a /boot partition?
[07:24] <calvarez> MarcN, oh, how do I start it?
[07:24] <cello_rasp> rtking: or the existing direct download
[07:24] <IdleOne> how do I set rythmbox as default player instead of soundjuicer?
[07:24] <HymnToLife> michael117, depends how many distros you want to run with it
[07:25] <cello_rasp> boot? it is so small as to un-necessessary to make a sep. partition
[07:25] <hjmills> linda777: you may not be the most knowledgable person in the room but you have a book and a desire to learn and that counts for a lot
[07:25] <MarcN> calvarez: check if it is up,     ps auwx|grep mysqld         Manually start is sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[07:25] <ambimom> IdleOne:  system/preferences/multimedia
[07:25] <HymnToLife> the biggest thing in /boot is kernel images so it depends how many of them you have
[07:25] <HymnToLife> cello_rasp, a separate /boot makes it way easier to run several distros
[07:25] <jewbilee> IdleOne: right click the file and under properties, change Opens with to rhythmbox
[07:25] <michael117> HymnToLife: I will be just running ubuntu on this machine and I need a separate /boot partition because I want to LVM the rest of the disk.
[07:26] <HymnToLife> hen you'll be fine with 32 megs
[07:26] <ambimom> IdleOne:  scratch that....just go to the media you want and right click ...open with...always
[07:26] <HymnToLife> then*
[07:26] <calvarez> MarcN, there is no "mysqld" in /etc/init.d/
[07:26] <calvarez> this is odd
[07:26] <michael117> HymnToLife: How big are kernel images usually?
[07:26] <floating> hiz. I have a movie in a .bin format. file thisfile.bin says it is a data file only. When I try open it with vlc player, it won't play. The file is good, it works on windows machine
[07:26] <jewbilee> What kind of file is a .h file?
[07:26] <aoupi> michael117: around 8M counting both initrd and kernel
[07:27] <calvarez> MarcN, nevermind, I realized I had the client but not the server, rofl
[07:27] <HymnToLife> michael117, the kernel image + initrd is about 5 megs here on Debian
[07:27] <MarcN> calvarez: mysql
[07:27] <mnoir> jewbilee: a c language header usually
[07:27] <calvarez> jewbilee, it is a C or C++ header file
[07:27] <wayco> can anybody suggest an inexpensive easy to use and set-up webcam for ubuntu?
[07:27] <HymnToLife> should be more or less the same in Ubuntu
[07:27] <jewbilee> thanks
[07:27] <IdleOne> ambimom: I dont have either ofthe options you suggested
[07:27] <rtking> cello : no i had extra hard time finding the full dl's and torrents were so slow it made me think you all need more help but then i got all x . k . edu and u all versions and wanted to "give back as what says on all 4 web pages
[07:28] <michael117> HymnToLife: My home debian server boot partition seems to be much large for some weird reason... But anyway, for an Ubuntu desktop, 32MB is more than enough, you say?
[07:28] <juliosaucedo> hello, I have problems changing the id of 2 users in my computer, using System->Admin->Users window
[07:28] <mnoir> juliosaucedo: changing the id??
[07:28] <ambimom> IdleOne:  you can't right click on the media file to open it????? what are you trying to do?
[07:28] <juliosaucedo> the user id
[07:28] <_ceed_> Hi,
[07:28] <mnoir> juliosaucedo: you cannot
[07:29] <IdleOne> ambimom: I want rythmbox to startup when I put in a music cd instead of soundjuicer
[07:29] <HymnToLife> michael117, definitely, on my Debian desktop, /boot is 10,7 MB
[07:29] <ExM3th1x> hi together
[07:29] <jewbilee> in C, are :: used instead of . in Java?
[07:29] <fotoflo2> I went to synapic and searched for VNC and found that I have vino installed - how to i know if its workign? how do i get to it?
[07:29] <ambimom> then open up rhythmbox first...then load the cd
[07:29] <juliosaucedo> mnoir: there is not some way to do that?
[07:30] <IdleOne> ambimom: I was hoping to automate that part :P
[07:30] <PRAEDO> hello
[07:30] <mnoir> juliosaucedo: no - add the different name and rename the home dir and change the ownership of the files
[07:30] <ExM3th1x> i have bought a D-link dwl 122 rev.c1 usb wlan stick and want to use this driver instead of the ubuntu edgy inculeds
[07:30] <_ceed_> When I connect my Zen Micro MP3 player to my Ubuntu laptop the device manager says it's a camera and try to download pictures. Why is that?
[07:30] <ExM3th1x> http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php?title=Rt2x00_beta
[07:30] <PRAEDO> if i su to a non priviledged user i get a shitty bash
[07:30] <juliosaucedo> ok, thanks
[07:30] <PRAEDO> how can i have the same bash as with root?
[07:30] <apokryphos> ubotu: language | PRAEDO
[07:30] <ubotu> PRAEDO: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:30] <juliosaucedo> by the way, i'm a unix newbie, what command can i use to manage users?
[07:30] <ExM3th1x> i mean this driver: rt2570
[07:30] <PRAEDO> what do you mean?
[07:30] <apokryphos> juliosaucedo: no need to use the command, use the programs in the menus
[07:31] <mnoir> PRAEDO: not only bad language, but also a poor description
[07:31] <freeeeeez> hello, i got some home movies in avi format.. how can i change avi to vob files and burn them to play on dvd? or do i have to burn to vob? i just want them to play on dvd players
[07:31] <ExM3th1x> could somebody tell me how to set up this and how to delete edgys inculdet driver?
[07:31] <HymnToLife> juliosaucedo, define "manage" :)
[07:31] <juliosaucedo> yes, i know, but only want to know the command to investigate more about that
[07:31] <mnoir> PRAEDO: there is only one 'bash'
[07:31] <PRAEDO> the bash i have doesn't support back key
[07:31] <winston> avoid the commandline at all costs :)
[07:31] <PRAEDO> and if i'm root i can use back key
[07:31] <kkrusty> how do you folks manage to type your passwords again and again because of no su?
[07:32] <aoupi> kkrusty: sudo -s ;)
[07:32] <kkrusty> i mean you cant login as root
[07:32] <rtking> cello?
[07:32] <apokryphos> or sudo -i, more appropriately
[07:32] <ambimom> Idleone:  It's been a while, but I seem to remember that when you click on the actual music file, which is on
[07:32] <juliosaucedo> winston: mmm, ubuntu is almost close to do that, but it continue being linux
[07:32] <apokryphos> kkrusty: you can get into a root jailed session, of course.
[07:32] <apokryphos> kkrusty: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[07:32] <mnoir> kkrusty: i set the timeout to 1 hour and have no problems at all
[07:32] <ambimom> Idleone:  CD too, it gives you the option of making that player the default automatically
[07:33] <darich> hello all
[07:33] <apokryphos> nice safe system ;-)
[07:33] <ambimom> Idleone:  if you load cd, then right click on it (should appear on the desktop) and make whatever media player you want as the "open with"
[07:33] <apokryphos> kind of defeats the object if your sudo timeout is so long
[07:33] <darich> I have a problem, well my sister has a problem
[07:33] <bmhm> gi all
[07:33] <bmhm> *hi
[07:33] <darich> we've removed network manager from her laptop
[07:33] <mnoir> apokryphos: i use sudo more to remind me to think
[07:33] <darich> and reset the network interfaces file
[07:34] <IdleOne> ambimom: I dont get that option " open with " when I right click
[07:34] <bmhm> Am I the only one who cannot access the Ubuntu.com webpage?
[07:34] <darich> and it won't let her login properly
[07:34] <ambimom> Idleclick:  what do you get?
[07:34] <freeeeeez> can anyone help me?
[07:34] <rtking> no page is under construction
[07:34] <IdleOne> ambimom: I have Open but no open with
[07:34] <mnoir> apokryphos: i am double natted on a home network so i feel the security risk is acceptable
[07:34] <kkrusty> but working with KDE. You'd have to type the password again and again right?
[07:34] <ambimom> IdleOne:  it's under Open
[07:34] <p3t3rZ> how do i make a dir usin terminal?
[07:34] <darich> just a white box in the corner and then it freezes
[07:35] <apokryphos> kkrusty: what? Why? Did you read the FAQ?
[07:35] <ambimom> IdleOne Look one line below Open
[07:35] <eternal_p> p3t3rZ: l
[07:35] <eternal_p> or ls -l
[07:35] <aoupi> p3t3rZ: mkdir name
[07:35] <eternal_p> which is my prefence
[07:35] <HymnToLife> P3L|C4N0, mkdir
[07:35] <bmhm> Am I the only one who cannot access the Ubuntu.com webpage?
[07:35] <rtking>  i had extra hard time finding the full dl's and torrents were so slow it made me think you all need more help but then i got all x . k . edu and u all versions and wanted to "give back as what says on all 4 web pages
[07:35] <IdleOne> ambimom: I understand what you are saying. it is not there
[07:35] <mnoir> p3t3rZ: mkdir
[07:35] <eternal_p> bmhm ubuntu.com seems to be down
[07:35] <hjmills> _ceed_: probably linux reads it as a normal usb disk and see's pictures so it decides its a camera and looks to see what program to use on a camara - if you dont use the camera program with any normal camera you can change that
[07:35] <ambimom> IdleOne:  You don't get a menu that says :  Open, Open With, Scripts, etc.????
[07:35] <kkrusty> apokryphos: skimmed through. ill ask anything after reading
[07:35] <dmslack_> what do i need to do to set up a printer attached to the network with a print server?
[07:35] <bmhm> ty eternal_p
[07:36] <eternal_p> ...and the forums are under maintance
[07:36] <hjmills> _ceed_: can you add music to it normally or do you need to use gnomad2 with libmtp?
[07:36] <IdleOne> ambimom: my right click menu says Open browse folder ...
[07:36] <ambimom> IdleOne:  If you don't get a full menu, I'm stumped....I don't have enough technical knowledge to tell you why you don't....sorry
[07:36] <eternal_p> does anyone here know how to get rid of the splash screen on Beryl?
[07:36] <NaPsTeR> hi
[07:36] <ambimom> IdleOne:  then open the browse folder....
[07:36] <ambimom> IdleOne, you'll see a lot of music files...
[07:36] <mnoir> !beryl
[07:36] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:36] <hjmills> eternal_p: yes- run beryl-manager and change the beryl settings so it doesnt load the splash plugin
[07:36] <ambimom> IdleOne:  right click one of those files....
[07:37] <eternal_p> hjmills: that much I figured
[07:37] <NaPsTeR> i need help
[07:37] <eternal_p> I cannot find that setting though
[07:37] <NaPsTeR> i am a noob 2 linux and ubuntu
[07:37] <hjmills> eternal_p: can you open beryl-manager?
[07:37] <IdleOne> ambimom: when I click browse folder it starts soundjuicer
[07:37] <eternal_p> yup
[07:37] <NaPsTeR> i need to be able to listen to all my music from windows
[07:37] <ambimom> then stop soundjuicer
[07:37] <p3t3rZ> how do i change permissions on a dir using terminal
[07:37] <NaPsTeR> i have mp3s and wmas
[07:37] <hjmills> eternal_p: sorry - beryl-settings?
[07:37] <NaPsTeR> wat do i do
[07:37] <NaPsTeR> plz help
[07:37] <mnoir> eternal_p: there is a whole channel eager to serve you: #ubuntu-xgl
[07:38] <ambimom> Idleone:  and look for the CD in your "Places"
[07:38] <aoupi> p3t3rZ: chmod --help
[07:38] <eternal_p> hjmills: I'm in
[07:38] <roler> I am writing a theme for Gnome - GTK2 and need to know if there is a reference to all of the style properties available...
[07:38] <hjmills> eternal_p: then if you have the latest beryl stuff there should be a series of expandable stuff on the right
[07:38] <hjmills> eternal_p: expand "Toys and such"
[07:38] <NaPsTeR> anyone?
[07:38] <jannu1> whats good program for adjust subtitles for ubuntu?
[07:38] <ambimom> IdleOne, once you've found CD, there should be way to look at the tracks on the CD
[07:38] <eternal_p> i'm there
[07:38] <hjmills> eternal_p: uncheckthe mark next to Splash in that column
[07:39] <tazer> Are there any other graphical tools for extracting RAR files? The default thingy in gnome (dapper drake) doesnt show a progress bar. That would be nice.. cheers.
[07:39] <eternal_p> oh crap..
[07:39] <aoupi> jannu1: mplayer is very configurable
[07:39] <hjmills> eternal_p: what you done now?
[07:39] <eternal_p> i've been looking at that for two weeks and didn't see that
[07:39] <eternal_p> ty :)
[07:39] <dmslack_> what do i need to do to set up a printer attached to the network with a print server?
[07:39] <NaPsTeR> plz
[07:39] <hjmills> eternal_p: sure :D
[07:39] <jannu1> well ill try it
[07:39] <linda777> Thanks for all the help, y'all. See you soon. :)
[07:39] <hjmills> linda777: bye
[07:39] <hjmills> dmslack_: have you plugged the printer in?
[07:39] <mnoir> rtking: by answering questions?
[07:40] <hjmills> dmslack_: then i would think you could add it as a network printer by just giving its ip address
[07:40] <k0> have a problem with my mplayer it works wen played using terminal but not wen i open it within desktop
[07:40] <EnsignRedshirt> rtking: Help NaPsTeR play his music
[07:40] <PRAEDO> how can i have the same bash as with root?
[07:40] <PRAEDO> the bash i have doesn't support back key
[07:40] <rtking> lol
[07:40] <hjmills> dmslack_: no, sorry the ip of the print server
[07:40] <k0> it says error opening video output
[07:40] <dmslack_> hjmils: it's an existing printer on the network, but it is attached by a print server, it doesn't have an ethernet port by default
[07:41] <dmslack_> hjmills: so it doesn't have an ip address assigned
[07:41] <k0> anyone too help me with mplayer
[07:41] <jfried> hi, happy new year to all :)
[07:41] <aoupi> jannu1: r and t adjusts position and z and x adjust delay
[07:41] <jfried> does anyone know, how i can customize the gnome "System > Logout" command?
[07:41] <pchilds> I wish to know if there is anyway to get surround sound to work in dapper the same way edgy does?
[07:41] <mnoir> PRAEDO: try google 'bash backspace' and read - there is a lot of material to help
[07:41] <hjmills> dmslack_: the print server should have an ip address
[07:42] <jannu1> i wish is there some progarm so i can modify .srt and .sub files
[07:42] <dmslack_> hjmills: i agree, but it only seems to work over like ipx
[07:42] <mnoir> PRAEDO: watch out for locale related things
[07:42] <jannu1> so i dont need adjust every time i watch again
[07:42] <hjmills> dmslack_: sorry - i dont know enough about network printers - i was just kinda logicking it out - try the wiki if it is up? anybody know if it is?
[07:42] <quantum_world> !rtfm
[07:42] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[07:43] <bmhm> lol quantum_world ^^
[07:43] <dmslack_> hjmills: s'ok... the forums are down unfortunately
[07:43] <rtking> what about network printer?  can all compters ping the printer ip addy?
[07:43] <hjmills> dmslack_: is the wiki?
[07:43] <hjmills> !wiki | dmslack_
[07:43] <ubotu> dmslack_: wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[07:43] <NaPsTeR> i really need help
[07:43] <NaPsTeR> will anyone help mwe?
[07:44] <desper> haloo
[07:44] <rtking> napster what is it?
[07:44] <Malachi> I'm having problems opening specific files with specific applications.
[07:44] <hjmills> !ask | NaPsTeR
[07:44] <ubotu> NaPsTeR: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:44] <NaPsTeR> i just starting using linux and ubuntu yesterday so im pretty clueless
[07:44] <hjmills> Malachi: what files and what apps?
[07:44] <mnoir> Malachi: like specifically what?
[07:44] <hjmills> !specific
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about specific - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <NaPsTeR> i need to be able to listen to all my music from windows
[07:45] <Malachi> Like, for example, mnoir and hjmills, .exe files. They're set to open with wine, but they don't.
[07:45] <NaPsTeR> i have only mp3's and wma's
[07:45] <Gosha> !server
[07:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[07:45] <NaPsTeR> nono
[07:45] <Gosha> !http
[07:45] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[07:45] <NaPsTeR> just music
[07:45] <desper> use audicious
[07:45] <Gosha> !bot
[07:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:45] <Gosha> ..
[07:45] <desper> audacious
[07:45] <Gosha> where is that bot
[07:45] <hjmills> NaPsTeR: ok - you need to install all the gstreamer stuff
[07:45] <hjmills> !gstreamer
[07:45] <Gosha> .. i mean the channel with ubtu on
[07:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:45] <NaPsTeR> from where?
[07:45] <Gosha> ubotu*
[07:45] <NaPsTeR> how?
[07:45] <mnoir> Malachi: do they work if executed in another way?
[07:45] <desper> apt-get
[07:45] <quantum_world> !restricted
[07:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:46] <p3t3rZ> is it possible to allow the root account to login to the graphic interface?
[07:46] <k0> help please, mplayer doesnt seem to play when opened directly but plays just fine wen done using terminal
[07:46] <Malachi> mnoir: Right-click and open with wine.
[07:46] <NaPsTeR> ??
[07:46] <hjmills> !restricted | NaPsTeR
[07:46] <ubotu> NaPsTeR: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:46] <rtking> byte fur now
[07:46] <hjmills> thanks quantum_world
[07:46] <k0> i have changed the video out, but no luck
[07:46] <NaPsTeR> wat?
[07:46] <p3t3rZ> is it possible to allow the root account to login to the graphic interface?
[07:46] <quantum_world> np
[07:46] <bmhm> Hi - I need Adobe Reader for Ubuntu 6.10 amd64
[07:46] <bmhm> Hi - I need Adobe Reader for Ubuntu 6.10 amd64
[07:46] <NaPsTeR> hjmills: wat do i do?
[07:46] <hjmills> NaPsTeR: that is information about how to get it working
[07:46] <aoupi> k0: try starting through gmplayer instead of mplayer or the opposite :)
[07:47] <quantum_world> p3t3rZ, yes
[07:47] <Jowi> p3t3rZ, yes. you set it up in gdmsetup
[07:47] <quantum_world> just type startx as root
[07:47] <NaPsTeR> wat must i do though
[07:47] <hjmills> NaPsTeR: you click on the first link and follow the instructions on that web page
[07:47] <mnoir> Malachi: i understand what you are saying.  Do they work correctly if opened in another way like by invoking wine from the cmd line?
[07:47] <Malachi> Yes.
[07:47] <quantum_world> or what Jowi said
[07:47] <Malachi> mnoir: http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/9701/screenshotgg5.png
[07:47] <EnsignRedshirt> NaPsTeR: For various reasons, Ubuntu does not play mp3 files "out of the box". You will have to install some more programs.  The links explain how to do that.
[07:47] <hjmills> NaPsTeR: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:48] <hjmills> NaPsTeR: or run the following command (without the quotes) "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs"
[07:48] <Malachi> mnoir: But even so, http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/8289/screenshotgb4.png
[07:48] <EnsignRedshirt> hjmills: Are those in the main repository?
[07:49] <mnoir> hmm - i do not know wine - but it wants to give you a hard time....
[07:49] <Gosha> how do i install LAMP on edgy?
[07:49] <Dirtbag> Goodevening/morning/please fill in your time :)
[07:49] <Gosha> !LAMP
[07:49] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:49] <Dirtbag> I have a problem burning video DVD's
[07:49] <hjmills> EnsignRedshirt: oh - good point - he needs multiverse and universe repos
[07:49] <k0> aoupi, Couldn't open: /dev/mga_vid
[07:49] <k0> Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
[07:49] <k0> i get this error
[07:50] <Dirtbag> I tried to today, and it won't let me, or more likely I don't understand how
[07:50] <aoupi> k0: weird, my graphical mplayer seems broken too :(, haven't noticed since I always start playback from terminal
[07:50] <aoupi> k0: tell me if you find a way to fix it :)
[07:50] <rtking> back
[07:50] <mnoir> Malachi: i advise you to yell (quietly) for wine help.  other extensions acting wrongly?
[07:50] <rtking> !rules
[07:50] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:50] <Malachi> mnoir: Yes.
[07:51] <k0> well i fixed a problem similar to this by editing the mplayer.conf
[07:51] <k0> and changing the vo output
[07:51] <Malachi> mnoir: Movie Player is set to open .rm files, but a similar dialogue box opens.
[07:51] <k0> but this time it doesnt seem to work
[07:51] <aoupi> k0: when i set gmplayer to use xv (as it uses in terminal) it startet playing but started complaining about missing audio codecs
[07:52] <aoupi> I thought gmplayer was just a frontend
[07:52] <rtking> !downloads
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about downloads - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <k0> aoupi, wheres the conf file for gmplayer
[07:53] <Zyphern>  I had a problem with my network when using ubuntu. someone told me I needed to make ubuntu act as a DHCP Client in order for it all to work. Looking in the packages section there are 3 different ones. dhcp-client (2.0pl5-19.5ubuntu2) /// dhcp3-client (3.0.4-12ubuntu1) /// dhcpcd (1:2.0.3-1). Which one should I use?
[07:53] <rtking> i dint do that did i???
[07:53] <mnoir> Malachi: looks like a protective mechanism of some kind that i have never seen.
[07:53] <mnoir> dunno
[07:53] <bmhm> Hi - I need Adobe Reader for Ubuntu 6.10 amd64
[07:53] <Malachi> mnoir: Okay.
[07:54] <maddash> !seen
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <rtking> or is that a netsplit --- been away from irc for 10 yrs
[07:54] <bmhm> Hi - I need Adobe Reader for Ubuntu 6.10 amd64
[07:54] <maddash> damn where's h3xis?
[07:54] <mnoir> Malachi: i am sure it can be altered.  one thing clear - the reason i asked the question - mime seems to be working and recognizing it
[07:54] <rasman> Zyphern, there should be dhcp3-client installed by default for desktop installations
[07:54] <Malachi> mnoir: Right.
[07:54] <Malachi> mnoir: I'm googling again for an answer. Thanks.
[07:55] <aoupi> k0: in ~/.mplayer
[07:55] <aoupi> there's a bunch there I just found
[07:55] <k0> yeh dnt seem to work
[07:55] <mnoir> Malachi: linux is still a complicated big thing - divide and conquer :)
[07:55] <rasman> Zyphern, the command you need to run is "sudo dhclient eth0" if your network adapter is eth0.
[07:55] <Zyphern> home.cogeco.ca/~justin.vanderheide/status.png
[07:56] <Zyphern> Thats the screenshot I showed in #linux and they told me to get dhcpcd
[07:56] <rtking> what ever happened to ed k x ????
[07:56] <k0> aoupi, yeh i works within terminal when u specify the vo
[07:56] <maddash> anyone here running breezy? with fglrx?
[07:57] <apokryphos> ubotu: anyone
[07:57] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:57] <xeno_> how do I make an irc bot?
[07:57] <maddash> psht.
[07:57] <httped> xeno_, eggdrop
[07:57] <maddash> silly bot
[07:57] <httped> google it
[07:57] <apokryphos> xeno_: supybot is good to play with
[07:57] <apokryphos> ubotu: info supybot
[07:57] <ubotu> supybot: robust and user friendly Python IRC bot. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.83.2-1 (edgy), package size 448 kB, installed size 2892 kB
[07:57] <apokryphos> blootbot is another popular one
[07:57] <rasman> Zyphern, run 'ifconfig'  Dhcp should be automatically used unless you changed the configuration
[07:57] <apokryphos> ubotu: info blootbot
[07:57] <ubotu> blootbot: a severely modified infobot for IRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-5 (edgy), package size 242 kB, installed size 972 kB
[07:58] <xeno_> hmm tnx apokryphos
[07:58] <maddash> what do you guys have for glxgears -printfps?
[07:58] <rtking> hmmmmmmmmm
[07:59] <apokryphos> xeno_: supybot/blootbots are good for factoid-bots and useless other stuff, eggdrops are for channel guarding
[07:59] <apokryphos> not that widely used on Freenode
[07:59] <Zyphern> Rasman, it is, I go into the administrator network settings and it says DHCP in the dropdown list
[07:59] <rtking> what ever happened to channels Edubuntu xubuntu kubuntu?
[07:59] <EnsignRedshirt> maddash: 9171 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1834.029 FPS
[07:59] <xeno_> which one do you recommend apokryphos ?
[07:59] <Zyphern> My subnet mask is 255.255.254.0
[07:59] <apokryphos> rtking: they're all still there
[07:59] <Music_Shuffle> rtking, they still exist.
[07:59] <rtking> really?
[07:59] <apokryphos> xeno_: ubotu and Ubugtu here are supybots; I'd say they're the best.
[08:00] <rtking> did i miss spell?
[08:00] <apokryphos> but of course it depends on what you want and what you're looking for really
[08:00] <Music_Shuffle> rtking, yarly. /join #kubuntu
[08:00] <maddash> ensignredshit: holy crap. what resolution are you in? what's your hardware stats? is fglrx  in there?
[08:00] <rtking> heheh i forgot #  lol
[08:00] <xeno_> one last thing apokryphos m8 - how do I get supybot?
[08:00] <apokryphos> xeno_: install it like any other package
[08:00] <Music_Shuffle> maddash, his result isn't that insane...
[08:00] <apokryphos> xeno_: it takes some time to configure though, on the commandline.
[08:00] <Dirtbag> I can't burn a videodvd, I just tried burning a audio cd and that did work, guids I found said I need to use growsiofs, but I don't know how, also when I tried burning with gnomebaker produces a error that could be transloated into " makeisofs can't be found"
[08:01] <EnsignRedshirt> maddash: 1600x1200.  nvidia card, 5600 something-or-other (sorry, I'm not really a hardware guru).
[08:01] <rasman> Zyphern, we still need to see the output of 'ifconfig' from a command line.  Application --> Accessories --> Terminal
[08:01] <xtknight> how do I control the fan speed of my CPU?
[08:01] <name> what the crappy hell?
[08:01] <Zyphern> Rasman, I have that somewhere hold on
[08:01] <sinisterguy> i've been having some trouble playing vob files from my DVD archives under ubuntu. no matter what media player i use its all jittery. the audio's usually fine, but this video doesn't even play successive frames. any suggestions?
[08:01] <name> i can't delete "update-notifier" from the startup progs
[08:02] <Zyphern> I have the output of "ifconfig -a" upstairs on my other computer
[08:02] <maddash> music_shuffle: his stats make mine - ~780 fps - look anachronic... even though I'm running fglrx
[08:02] <Music_Shuffle> What are YOU running in the way of a gfx card?
[08:02] <coe> sinisterguy, Make sure that DMA is turned on.
[08:02] <maddash> laptop. ati radeon x300.
[08:03] <sinisterguy> coe: on my HD?
[08:03] <xai> looking for an ASUS  AMD-dual core mobo that is well supported under ubuntu. Any ideas?
[08:03] <Zyphern> Aswell rasman, every computer in the house loses its internet connectivity when I boot ubuntu
[08:03] <coe> sinisterguy, No, DVD drive
[08:03] <aoupi> k0: rm -rf ~/.mplayer worked :)
[08:03] <aoupi> k0: it still gives me warnings but it plays
[08:04] <sinisterguy> coe: i'm not playing it from the DVD drive
[08:04] <EnsignRedshirt> maddash: I've been told that glxgears is not a reliable measure of graphics performance.
[08:04] <rtking> wow that channel is as slow as the dl torrenets
[08:04] <coe> sinisterguy, Oh my mistake. Thought you were playing a regular DVD
[08:04] <xeno_> apokryphos:  i successfully installed supybot, any hints how to configure it pls? tnx
[08:04] <maddash> ensignredshit: it isn't. but it gives a half-decent approximation.
[08:05] <maddash> ensignredshirt***
[08:05] <maddash> geez
[08:05] <apokryphos> xeno_: read the documentation :)
[08:05] <bmhm> !rtfm
[08:05] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[08:05] <bmhm> @ apokryphos
[08:05] <bmhm> ;)
[08:05] <sinisterguy> coe: another bizare thing happens though, when i "play" the dvd drive with totem-xine it works fine, but if i try to play the .vob file directly from the DVD it goes jittery
[08:05] <ExM3th1x> does somebody here have a dwl 122 (c1) working?
[08:06] <ExM3th1x> i need a driver that is working with aircrackng
[08:06] <tonyKUN> I need help before installing Ubuntu for the first time
[08:06] <tonyKUN> What file system should my harddrive be? ext3? ntfs?
[08:06] <apokryphos> bmhm: not even remotely similar
[08:06] <apokryphos> 8)
[08:06] <jbroome> ext3 will be fine
[08:06] <EnsignRedshirt> tonyKUN: ext3 is good. Definitely not ntfs.
[08:06] <bmhm> tonyKUN: reiserFS :)
[08:06] <rasman> Zyphern, it sounds like ubuntu is running as a dhcp server.
[08:06] <Jowi> tonyKUN, ext3 is recommended. for the linux partitions that is.
[08:06] <bmhm> I prefer reiser
[08:06] <m1n1st3r> wow, this place is a zoo, could somebody plz point the way to a ubuntu server help channel?
[08:07] <jbroome> m1n1st3r: this is it
[08:07] <Malachi> XD
[08:07] <m1n1st3r> thx
[08:07] <kmaynard> bmhm, dont leave any sharp objects near your pc
[08:07] <jbroome> bmhm: careful, it'll kill your files and hide them somewhere. :P
[08:07] <tonyKUN> one more question, since im going to dualboot, can i set windows as my default if i don't pick within the timelimit
[08:07] <bmhm> jbroome: kmaynard lol its so amazing fast... :)
[08:07] <maddash> tonykun: sure.
[08:07] <kmaynard> :-D
[08:07] <tonyKUN> how?
[08:07] <maddash> tonykun: what's your primary bootloader?
[08:07] <bmhm> do you know whats funny about ubuntu?
[08:07] <bmhm>  they want users to use ogg instead of mp3. Ok, i can accept that.
[08:07] <jbroome> tonyKUN: yeah, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to point to windows
[08:07] <bmhm> but why the hell did they include preview playback for mp3, but not for ogg?
[08:07] <m1n1st3r> anybody here experienced with vmware server install, if so, i'd appreciate a moment of your time
[08:08] <bmhm> this is wired
[08:08] <EnsignRedshirt> bmhm: reiser is supposed to be good, too, but I got burned once when I tried to resize a reiser partition.
[08:08] <k0> yep u can fix it by just editing the ~/.mplayer to use xv vo
[08:08] <maddash> tonykun: ntldr? grub?
[08:08] <bmhm> EnsignRedshirt: don't resize it... havent made a backup? your fault :
[08:08] <rasman> Zyphern, you can verify by running 'dpkg -l dhcp*' and see if dhcpd has ii as the first two characters (it stands for commanded to install and installed successfully)
[08:08] <maddash> tonykun: it' it's grub, you can sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:08] <tonyKUN> maddash: haven't installed ubuntu yet, so don't know what your talking about
[08:08] <tonyKUN> ok
[08:08] <tonyKUN> thanks guy
[08:08] <EnsignRedshirt> bmhm: *Now* I now that!  But the resize program gave no warning...
[08:08] <tonyKUN> off to install
[08:08] <maddash> tonykun: just don't install to the mbr
[08:09] <tonyKUN> dont install to mbr?
[08:09] <rasman> Zyphern, you will want to uninstall the dhcp server with 'sudo apt-get uninstall dhcpd'
[08:09] <bmhm> EnsignRedshirt: it was not coded for a DAU ;)
[08:09] <tonyKUN> what do you mean by that?
[08:09] <maddash> tonykun: ...well, it's up to you, really...I prefer to retain the windows bootloader as the primary
[08:09] <tonyKUN> i made a partition already
[08:09] <maddash> tonykun: MBR = Master boot record
[08:10] <tonyKUN> how do i not install to it
[08:10] <maddash> tonykun: if you allow grub to install to the MBR, then you'll see grub the first thing everytime you turn on your computer
[08:10] <EnsignRedshirt> \me is not ashamed to admit that he is a DAU.
[08:10] <maddash> tonykun: the installer will ask you whether you want grub in the master boot record...
[08:10] <maddash> ensignredshirt: isn't it "/me"?
[08:11] <tonyKUN> so say no
[08:11] <maddash> tonykun: it's up to you
[08:11] <tonyKUN> whats recommended
[08:11] <maddash> ensignredshirt: of course not! slashes are slanted. haha.
[08:11] <tonyKUN> because ill probably still be using windows alot more frequently
[08:12] <mnoir> tonyKUN: most folks let grub be the primary anyway - it is known to be reliable
[08:12] <maddash> tonykun: don't install to the mbr, b/c if you do, it'll be rather difficult to change your mind later on
[08:12] <kakakoka> ..
[08:12] <tonyKUN> ok
[08:12] <tonyKUN> thanks guys
[08:12] <maddash> tonykun: just install grub to the bootsector of your ubuntu partition. it'll ask you for something like, "/dev/hda1"
[08:13] <tonyKUN> ok
[08:13] <tonyKUN> thanks maddash
[08:13] <borg> how do i install firefox .jar themes?
[08:13] <maddash> tonykun: anytime.
[08:13] <newbuntu> If your Xorg.conf is screwed up and its backup , how can you reinstall it ?
[08:13] <duncan_> hello. How can I patch things in linux? I need to patch wine and there is only link to edited file (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=3012&action=view). How can I apply this?
[08:13] <Ponsjuh22> basic question
[08:13] <kbrosnan> borg: drag and drop to the theme mananager in firefox
[08:13] <maddash> newbuntu: do, "sudo apt-get remove apt"
[08:13] <maddash> newbuntu: j/k don't do that
[08:13] <mwe> newbuntu: you have to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:13] <Ponsjuh22> how can i change my keyboard settings to type the " without pressing the spacebar
[08:14] <maddash> newbuntu: you could find a default xorg.conf on google
[08:14] <newbuntu> its frustrating, it takes 10 minutes from login to make my desktop appear
[08:14] <mwe> newbuntu: that will create a new one
[08:14] <Wanderer> Anyone know the proper way to build a kernel from source using the ubuntu way?
[08:14] <Wanderer> I looked at the KernelCustomBuild but that isn't complete it seems
[08:14] <mnoir> !fixres |newbuntu
[08:14] <ubotu> newbuntu: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:14] <borg> kbrosnan, kthx
[08:14] <Wanderer> I just need to get the sound working on this toshiba satalite
[08:15] <maddash> has anyone here got fglrx running on breezy?
[08:15] <Dirtbag> Can someone help me with a problem I have with burning videodvd?
[08:15] <mnoir> !kernel | Wanderer
[08:15] <ubotu> Wanderer: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[08:15] <newbuntu> in task manager it says that I have 2 xsessions running and 3 kdestart
[08:16] <mnoir> Wanderer: sorry - i didn't see you had already been there
[08:16] <Wanderer> yeah, reading that,  the recomended method isn't working
[08:16] <Wanderer> np, appreciate the suggestion
[08:16] <Ponsjuh22> anyone
[08:16] <Zyphern> Who was helping me earlier? I have the ifconfig readout
[08:16] <Ponsjuh22> in windows it's the keyboard input
[08:16] <Ponsjuh22> but in ubuntu it doen't work
[08:17] <mnoir> Wanderer: btw, as long as you are using the ubuntu header and source packages, the generic build process is the same as any debian kernel
[08:17] <daedra> !ask
[08:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:17] <newbuntu> it sucks because im in dapper on this machine and recovery login doesnt take me to a prompt where I could kill the processes
[08:17] <mnoir> Wanderer: so any howto should work
[08:17] <Ponsjuh22> really need the " key working without the " + [space] 
[08:17] <stefg> Zyphern: put your outpout to the pastebin mentioned in the /topic and post the link in here
[08:17] <Zyphern> alright
[08:18] <Wanderer> mnoir: well, I tried using the suggested method so I can do it "right" instead of by hand as I used to
[08:18] <whileimhere> How do you read an ebook (lit) file?
[08:18] <Wanderer> it fails on the "AUTOBUILD=1......" line
[08:18] <newbuntu> if I get a standard xorg.conf I guess I have to fill in all the info, or will bootup fill all that in?
[08:19] <elyon> What is the partition manager in Ubuntu?
[08:19] <maddash> newbuntu: use dpkg-reconfigure as mwe suggested
[08:19] <stefg> !fixres | newbuntu
[08:19] <ubotu> newbuntu: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:19] <Zyphern> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/264/
[08:19] <gameover> hi
[08:19] <gameover> problem with my wireless
[08:20] <gameover> someone help?
[08:20] <newbuntu> thanks
[08:20] <mwe> whileimhere: AFAIK you have to convert the .lit file
[08:20] <maddash> !ask | gameover
[08:20] <ubotu> gameover: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:20] <stefg> !wifi | gameover
[08:20] <ubotu> gameover: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:21] <gameover> ok... i have a laptop hp pavillion with a build in broadcom card
[08:21] <Zyphern> stefg: Did you get the link?
[08:21] <gameover> ubuntu reconozi a card with wireless extension on eth1
[08:21] <stefg> gameover: read the link ubotu gave you
[08:21] <Ponsjuh22> my "-key (shift+') doen't give me a " until i press space...need this solved so i  have to press only shift+' to get the "
[08:22] <jodok> hi, i need to rebuild glibc with -mno-tls-direct-seg-refs (xen nptl support) - any idea how to do this?
[08:22] <gameover> ok.. i read it before ask :) thanks
[08:22] <stefg> Zyphern: yeah, i got the link, but since i'm not the person originally helping you i don't know what the question is
[08:22] <Zyphern> ohh okay
[08:22] <jodok> it says something about modifying CFLAGS in the debian/rules file...
[08:23] <duncan_> hello. How can I patch things in linux? I need to patch wine and there is only link to edited file (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=3012&action=view). How can I apply this?
[08:23] <stefg> Zyphern: wireless trouble? then read !wifi
[08:23] <Zyphern> unfortunately its not
[08:23] <RickyRay> does ubuntu support raid 1 during install?
[08:23] <RickyRay> and sata
[08:24] <Deja-Vu> ufff ne kadar cok ubuntu kullanicisi varmis
[08:24] <IntuitiveNipple> Ricky: depends on the controller and existing RAID config
[08:24] <neuratix> !wifi
[08:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:24] <Ponsjuh22> i've got it
[08:24] <mnoir> duncan - you are going to need to learn to build from source
[08:24] <Ponsjuh22> thnx everone :D :P
[08:24] <stefg> Zyphern: so your ifconfig looks sane so far, wht's not working?
[08:24] <mnoir> !build | duncan_
[08:24] <ubotu> duncan_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:24] <Zyphern> I am using an SMC Barricade. Whenever I boot Ubuntu every computer in my house loses it's internet connectivity, however I can still connect to my router (192.168.2.1) (see: http://home.cogeco.ca/~justin.vanderheide/status.png). I have the networking set to DHCP yet I still have no internet.
[08:24] <jbroome> !tr | Deja-Vu
[08:24] <ubotu> Deja-Vu: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[08:25] <RickyRay> intutivenipple, can you help me setup my system if i tell you how i'd like the raid?
[08:25] <duncan_> thx
[08:25] <Jowi> duncan_, get the source code for the program you want to patch. apply the patch to the source code. compile the source. install it. (quick guide that one)
[08:25] <Deja-Vu> ubotu saol tesekkurler
[08:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about saol tesekkurler - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:25] <IntuitiveNipple> Ricky: you'll need to work it out for yourself, like the rest of us. Its very much a trial-an-error and lots of RTFM
[08:25] <Zyphern> I was told I need to get DHCPCD or another DHCP Client daemon, then I was also told that DHCP3 Client came with Ubuntu and to run "sudo dhclient eth0"
[08:25] <Zyphern> So I'm not sure what I should do
[08:25] <stefg> Zyphern: the reason for all other computers losing their 'net might be that the ubuntu-box is grbbing the routers IP
[08:25] <Zyphern> stefg: How do I stop that?
[08:26] <Zyphern> Someone suggested that ubuntu was trying to act as the DHCP Server
[08:26] <stefg> But , thinking further, that's unlikely... .100 is not a typical router ip
[08:26] <mnoir> Zyphern: how does it get it's net address?
[08:27] <Zyphern> my router?
[08:27] <desper> how can i set software preferred, say, use audacious to open all the mp3s by double clicking?
[08:27] <mnoir> Zyphern: is it configured correctly to do that?
[08:27] <Zyphern> to do what?
[08:27] <lufis> desper: right click on the file and click the tab "Open with"
[08:27] <lufis> desper: in the properties of thefile
[08:28] <evildrummer> is there anyway to install gnome on an ubuntu server, I have tried 'apt-get install gnome' but I get an error
[08:28] <desper> o!
[08:28] <desper> 3x
[08:28] <mnoir> Zyphern: get it's address through the router
[08:28] <IntuitiveNipple> evil - i think its ... install desktop, or close to that
[08:28] <evildrummer> @In ill try that
[08:28] <stefg> ! ipv6 | Zyphern
[08:28] <ubotu> Zyphern: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:28] <Zyphern> ipv6?
[08:28] <stefg> Zyphern: this is just a guess, but maybe it helps
[08:28] <Zyphern> Alright I'll try it
[08:29] <evildrummer> 'couldnt find package' for 'apt-get install desktop'
[08:29] <mnoir> Zyphern: that is unlikely to be your issue
[08:29] <EnsignRedshirt> Zyphern: Is the router the DHCP server for the other computers on your network?  Or do they have static IPs?
[08:30] <Zyphern> I am with cogeco, it is technically a dynamic IP However I am always assigned a certain one
[08:30] <Zyphern> and I think it is the DHCP server, seeing as it says
[08:30] <Zyphern> DHCP Status: REady
[08:30] <Zyphern> on my router status screen
[08:30] <mnoir> Zyphern: could you diagram your local network?
[08:30] <evildrummer> when I try 'apt-get install gnome' the whole error is: 'Package gnome is not available, but is referred to by another package, This may mean the package is missing or etc etc etc
[08:30] <evildrummer> any ideas?
[08:30] <newbuntu> Heres a basic question I have a pc on ubuntu and a laptop on ubuntu, I have one LAN cable, I want to move the files off the PC and over to the Laptop... what is the best method to do this , i tried ftp but I cant find each ip number using ifconfig, is there a good way to move the files from A to B ?
[08:30] <Zyphern> How would I do that mnoir?
[08:30] <EnsignRedshirt> Zyphern: Is your Ubuntu computer configured to use DHCP, or does it have a static IP address?
[08:31] <Zyphern> I haven't configured anything
[08:31] <mnoir> Zyphern: describe how all of your machines connect to the internet
[08:31] <stefg> evildrummer: obviously there's no simple 'gnome'-metapackage.. what are you trying to achhieve?
[08:31] <Zyphern> Okay, I have my SMC Barricade, I have three computers, all of the computers are plugged into the router, and the router is connected directly to the internet
[08:32] <robtp> newbuntu: open nautilus and select what you want to share, then share files in the right click context menu
[08:32] <mnoir> Zyphern: ok
[08:32] <mnoir> Zyphern: i know the barricade - used to use one
[08:32] <evildrummer> at stefg im just trying to get a desktop environment for my ubuntu srver
[08:32] <robtp> robtp: let me know how that goes, you may have to install some packgaes
[08:32] <newbuntu> robtp how do connect the computers  , via LAN cable ?
[08:32] <Zyphern> mnoir, awesome :)
[08:32] <mnoir> Zyphern: is the barricade enabled for dhcp?
[08:32] <jasin> hi
[08:33] <stefg> evildrummer: any desktop? or specifically gnome?
[08:33] <mwe> evildrummer: sudo aptitude install gnome works here. sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop will get some other stuff as well
[08:33] <rasman> Zyphern, sorry I dissapeared
[08:33] <Zyphern> mnoir, it indicates it is here: http://home.cogeco.ca/~justin.vanderheide/status.PNG
[08:33] <evildrummer> just trying to get a desktop
[08:33] <CaptSmokey6> !nvidia
[08:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:33] <robtp> newbuntu: can you connect both of them to the internet, say via a router?
[08:33] <Zyphern> that's okay Raskall
[08:33] <jasin> my touchpad quit
[08:33] <Zyphern> rasman rather
[08:33] <newbuntu> I wish .. but I only have one LAN cable
[08:33] <robtp> newbuntu: you cant connect a cat5 cable from one to the other and be able to transfer anything unless its a special kind of cable
[08:33] <mwe> evildrummer: and I suggested two possibilities ;)
[08:34] <RickyRay> does linux come with a firewall turned on?
[08:34] <mnoir> Zyphern: that is the display from barricade?
[08:34] <evildrummer> ok
[08:34] <RickyRay> i mean ubuntu
[08:34] <rasman> Zyphern, did you uninstall the dhcpd application?
[08:34] <newbuntu> okay i get it
[08:34] <robtp> RickyRay: no, but you can install one
[08:34] <Zyphern> mnoir: that is the status screen
[08:34] <RickyRay> ahh, nah i got a router anyhow
[08:34] <Zyphern> rasman: I have not uninstalled anything
[08:34] <robtp> RickyRay: its not really necessary though
[08:34] <newbuntu> I just need another LAN cable to use the router
[08:34] <jasin> Ricky, it comes with iptables, its built into the kernel.
[08:34] <I-kido> Hi there, Disk1: sda1 sda2 sda3,  do I need to make the same partiotions with same size on Disk2 for RAID-0 ?
[08:34] <mnoir> Zyphern: is dhcpd running on your ubuntu now?
[08:35] <jasin> Ricky, it snot really all that configured .. you have to do that yourself.
[08:35] <RickyRay> what language is linux written in?
[08:35] <mwe> c
[08:35] <newbuntu> hebrew
[08:35] <rasman> Zyphern, right now you have  ubuntu and your router acting as competing dhcp servers.  You can temporarily disable dhcpd with a 'sudo /etc/init.d/dhcpd stop'
[08:35] <RickyRay> c++?
[08:35] <mwe> no
[08:35] <mwe> c
[08:35] <PRAEDO> how can i have the same bash as with root?
[08:35] <jasin> rick, many, c,c++
[08:35] <newbuntu> finnish actually
[08:35] <apokryphos> Ancient Greek
[08:35] <PRAEDO> and if i'm root i can use back key
[08:35] <Trinitrogen> I just installed Ubuntu yesterday, along with the Nvidia drivers for my 6600GT, and Beryl, and all was working but I couldn't get the resolution didn't go as high as I wanted (1280x1024), so I read some guides that suggested sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and restarted, but now when I log in the screen goes black and kicks me back to the log in
[08:35] <Zyphern> rasman, will that fix it?
[08:35] <RickyRay> what about c #?
[08:35] <mwe> the linux kernel is C
[08:35] <daedra> lol hebrew/greek
[08:35] <apokryphos> and a little bit of javascript
[08:35] <mwe> RickyRay: that for windows crap
[08:35] <newbuntu> conratulations Trin
[08:36] <Trinitrogen> newbuntu: Now I just need to get my resolution right :)
[08:36] <evildrummer> mwe: I tried the first thing you suggested but it didnt work and the second command is still running
[08:36] <rasman> Zyphern, eventually you will need to uninstall it from ubuntu.  if you run the last command, you will stop it until the next time ubuntu restarts
[08:36] <Trinitrogen> that 1024x768 just wont do
[08:36] <mwe> evildrummer: yeah
[08:36] <mnoir> Zyphern: i am giving up - you cannot listen to two ppl at the same time
[08:36] <craig__> can anybody access http://www.ralinktech.com
[08:36] <mwe> evildrummer: it will probably take a while to install
[08:36] <rasman> Zyphern, the command to uninstall dhcpd is 'sudo apt-get uninstall dhcpd'
[08:36] <Zyphern> mnoir, okay, thanks for your help though mnoir
[08:36] <mwe> evildrummer: are you running the latest ubuntu version?
[08:36] <mwe> !info gnome
[08:36] <ubotu> gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.14.2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 44 kB
[08:37] <lufis> Trinitrogen: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg , it will reset the xorg.conf file
[08:37] <evildrummer> mwe: no 6.06
[08:37] <rasman> mnoir, sorry, I didn't mean to step on your toes
[08:37] <Zyphern> Okay, thanks everyone I have 2 new things I will try
[08:37] <I-kido> http://www.ralinktech.com  is dead...
[08:37] <mwe> evildrummer: it probably didn't work because you have not enabled universe
[08:37] <Trinitrogen> lufis: will that fix my resolution problem too, or just load the saved conf back in
[08:37] <jasin> rick, the linux kernel, the heart of linux, is written in c, c++, and machine.
[08:37] <evildrummer> mwe: What would you suggest? I have the 6.06 server disk and thats it
[08:38] <mwe> !universe | evildrummer
[08:38] <ubotu> evildrummer: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:38] <lufis> Trinitrogen: Well, if x isn't working at all, it will at least let you use the gui
[08:38] <rasman> Zyphern, you will also have to make sure that your /etc/network/interfaces file has a dhcp address defined instead of a static address
[08:38] <lufis> Trinitrogen: i doubt it will fix the issue though
[08:38] <daedra> I-kide: try http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/
[08:38] <mwe> evildrummer: the page ubotu suggested explains how to enable universe. go ahead and do that
[08:38] <dnite> does anyone know of a (perferablly free) program that can recover a recently deleted file in ubuntu edgy??
[08:38] <daedra> I-kido: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/
[08:38] <Trinitrogen> lufis, thanks I know how to bring it back, just trying to fix my resolution problems
[08:38] <lufis> Trinitrogen: ah, sorry
[08:38] <I-kido> daedra tnx
[08:38] <Trinitrogen> thanks though
[08:38] <stefg> !fixres
[08:38] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:38] <xtknight> dnite: apt-cache search undelete ; apt-cache search recover
[08:39] <Zyphern> rasman, How can I ensure that?
[08:39] <mwe> evildrummer: ubuntu-desktop is fine. just let it install but you will probably want to enable universe anyway
[08:39] <dnite> xtknight, thanks
[08:39] <daedra> why isn't universe enabled by default?
[08:39] <evildrummer> mwe: Which page link was that?
[08:39] <stefg> daedra: politics!
[08:40] <mwe> !universe | evildrummer
[08:40] <ubotu> evildrummer: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:40] <xtknight> daedra: it's not officially supported by ubuntu
[08:40] <EnsignRedshirt> Zyphern: I'm running breezy, so it might not be the same on your computer, but I would use System->Administration->Networking
[08:40] <Zyphern> ohh okay
[08:40] <rasman> Zyphern, run 'sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces' and verify that you have a 'iface eth0 inet dhcp'
[08:40] <Zyphern> I;ve gone in there before
[08:40] <jasin> Linux is written in that version of the C programming language which is supported by GCC (which has introduced a number of extensions and changes to standard C), together with a number of short sections of code written in the assembly language (in GCC's "AT&T-style" syntax) of the target architecture. Because of the extensions to C it supports, GCC was for a long time the only compiler capable of correctly building Linux.
[08:40] <stefg> Zyphern: post your pastebin link again
[08:40] <knoppix> hello, im trying to install grub on the mbr, but he cant read stage1 correctly, what is the problem there? http://rafb.net/p/YB6Hz186.html
[08:40] <daedra> don't want to get 'official' with linux...
[08:41] <EnsignRedshirt> Zyphern: In the window that pops up, I select the Ethernet connection, and click on Properties.
[08:41] <daedra> but I see ubuntu as an all good thing :)
[08:41] <juliosaucedo> what is the command for add users?
[08:41] <Zyphern>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/264/
[08:41] <stefg> !bash | juliosaucedo
[08:41] <ubotu> juliosaucedo: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:41] <knoppix> juliosaucedo: useradd
[08:41] <IdleOne> juliosaucedo: useradd
[08:41] <xtknight> daedra: mainly because Canonical can't support it, i guess
[08:41] <jasin> ubuntu is for all
[08:41] <I-kido> Disk1: sda1 sda2 sda3,  do I need to make the same partiotions with same size on Disk2 for RAID-0 ?
[08:41] <mwe> jasin: I think other compilers can build the kernel as well. at some
[08:41] <craig__> can anybody access http://www.ralinktech.com
[08:41] <mnoir> juliosaucedo: adduser but there is a gui for it that is much easier
[08:42] <Jowi> juliosaucedo, "sudo adduser usernameyouwanttoadd"
[08:42] <daedra> craig__: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/
[08:42] <evildrummer> how can I edit "/etc/apt/sources.list" with the command prompt server
[08:42] <jasin> mwe, yes, they can, but the kernel is written for gcc.
[08:42] <daedra> craig__: seriously, I have tried to compile the official ralink linux drivers, and http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/ are way better
[08:42] <Tron_> anyone know how i can use  linux-image-k7 instead of the default
[08:42] <brian123456> how can i figure out what driver ubuntu is using for my wireless adapter?
[08:42] <Tron_> i installed it but its not booting with it
[08:42] <w3ccv> I-kido, I think not, raid 0 concateates disks.  you will just be making one larger.
[08:42] <mwe> brian123456: lsmod might help
[08:42] <evildrummer> how can I edit "/etc/apt/sources.list" with the command prompt server
[08:42] <Zyphern> get the link stef?
[08:43] <craig__> daedra: I do not need the drivers, they are built into 6.06 for rt61, but I need the firmware
[08:43] <stefg> Tron_: don't worry, you won't gain anything by that
[08:43] <juliosaucedo> Jowi: and if the useriwanttoadd is Administrator? and want to assign the user id?
[08:43] <w3ccv> I-kido, Raid 1 is mirroring - mirrors can only be as large as the smallest one.
[08:43] <Tron_> ?
[08:43] <Zaggynl> evildrummer, "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:43] <EnsignRedshirt> evildrummer: If you really need to edit it by hand, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:43] <mwe> evildrummer: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list. back it up first though, in case you screw it up
[08:43] <Tron_> its using p3 optimizations
[08:43] <Tron_> and its sluggish
[08:43] <Tron_> i want to use the althlonxp stuff
[08:43] <sedra> hello how to install ATI driver on ubuntu?
[08:43] <I-kido> w3ccv, i got 2x80 gb
[08:43] <jasin> for speed use striping
[08:43] <craig__> daedra: I accessed the site before, but I just do a reinstall to try to clear out some java issues I was having, but I need the firmware to get my wireless back up
[08:43] <xtknight> !ati
[08:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:43] <mwe> !gksudo
[08:43] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[08:43] <mnoir> juliosaucedo: you may be happier with the gui user manager
[08:43] <w3ccv> I-kido, do you want 160GB or 80
[08:44] <EnsignRedshirt> evildrummer: If you are just trying to enable, say, universe or multiverse, you can do that with Synaptic.
[08:44] <Tron_> i dont see how it wouldnt help to use the kernel tuned for my processor instead of one thats outdated by 7-8 years
[08:44] <Jowi> juliosaucedo, adduser --uid idnumber nameofuser
[08:44] <I-kido> w3ccv i wanrt the fastest option :p
[08:44] <juliosaucedo> Sure I would, but is not working
[08:44] <mwe> EnsignRedshirt: but he doesn't have X running yet
[08:44] <Jowi> juliosaucedo, all options are in "man adduser"
[08:44] <daedra> craig__: site doesn't work for me then :(
[08:44] <craig__> daedra: hope its not down long
[08:44] <EnsignRedshirt> mwe, evildrummer: I see. Nevermind the comment about Synaptic.
[08:44] <jasin> RAID can increase performance in certain applications. RAID levels 0, and 5-6 all use variations on striping, which allows multiple spindles to increase sustained transfer rates when conducting linear transfers
[08:44] <craig__> guess I will work on java issues
[08:45] <I-kido> tnx jasin
[08:45] <craig__> after a fresh install, should I install all java packages, or do I just need jre or jvm
[08:45] <jasin> welcome
[08:45] <I-kido> tnx w3ccv
[08:45] <w3ccv> I-kido,  raid-0 will give you a possible 160GB disk with the 'data' spread out over both, if you loose one you might loose both.Raid 1 is mirroring, not as fast but you will have 80GB and if one does south you will be working off the other as a backup
[08:45] <mwe> craig__: jre for the runtime or jvm to get the compiler as well
[08:45] <mwe> !java
[08:45] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:46] <I-kido> w3ccv u recommend raid 1?
[08:46] <craig__> ok, thanks guys
[08:46] <Jowi> juliosaucedo, if you need the user to be able to function as an administrator he/she needs to be added to the admin group
[08:46] <IntuitiveNipple> RAID 1 is 'safer' because you have a 2 copies of your filesystem
[08:47] <I-kido> :) k tnx
[08:47] <stefg> Tron_: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html
[08:47] <sedra> Multiverse! what's that?
[08:47] <IntuitiveNipple> if you have enough drives, RAID 1+0 gives safety and a modest performance boost
[08:47] <I-kido> tnx all....... laterz
[08:47] <mnoir> !multiverse | sedra
[08:47] <ubotu> sedra: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:47] <daedra> craig__: hmm ping www.ralinktech.com has strange behaviour..
[08:48] <jasin> Linux kernel raid10 is not nested
[08:48] <Jowi> juliosaucedo, you do this with "sudo adduser Administrator admin" to add user "Administrator" to the "admin" group
[08:48] <linuxnewbie756> whats the worst that could happen from using automatix?
[08:48] <mnoir> linuxnewbie756: ya screw up your system
[08:48] <linuxnewbie756> how bad?
[08:48] <IdleOne> !automatix | linuxnewbie756
[08:48] <ubotu> linuxnewbie756: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:48] <jasin> linuxnewbie, not much
[08:48] <craig__> I get a proxy error when I try to visit site, and I dont have a proxy
[08:48] <mwe> linuxnewbie756: that you screw up the system and have to reinstall
[08:49] <mnoir> linuxnewbie756: bad enough to require reinstall
[08:49] <daedra> craig__: don't worry I get the same error
[08:49] <shwouchk> hi
[08:49] <Tron_> stefg, interesting
[08:49] <IdleOne> linuxnewbie756: easy answer is dont use it
[08:49] <mnoir> linuxnewbie756: do you feel lucky? :)
[08:49] <linuxnewbie756> uh, i have installed ubuntu twice today, so i guess i am ok with that
[08:49] <sedra> !WorksForMe
[08:49] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:49] <craig__> daedra: thanks for checking for me
[08:49] <Jowi> need to go. cu all
[08:49] <IntuitiveNipple> dmraid supports RAID1+0 on supported controllers/metadata
[08:49] <Tron_> i wonder how i can optimize it a bit so its not so slugish then
[08:49] <jasin> linuxnewbie, their paranoid, I use automatix without any problems whatsoever.
[08:49] <shwouchk> how do I enable sites I put in /etc/apache/sites-available/?
[08:49] <linuxnewbie756> i have used it before, didn't notice it breaking anything, it seemed perfect
[08:49] <craig__> daedra: I think I will have to wait until they figure out the problem over there
[08:49] <mwe> linuxnewbie756: why not use easyubuntu instead?
[08:50] <Tron_> 2ghz with 1gb of ram shouldnt have screen lag i wouldnt think?
[08:50] <linuxnewbie756> is easyubuntu supposed to be better?
[08:50] <RickyRay> during install, what is LVM?
[08:50] <linuxnewbie756> or "safer"
[08:50] <sedra> Logical Volume Manager
[08:50] <Flannel> jasin: please don't recommend automatix here.
[08:50] <RickyRay> should i use none, lvm or lvm encrypted?
[08:50] <mwe> RickyRay: you don't need to worry about that if you don't know what it is
[08:50] <EnsignRedshirt> linuxnewbie756: Worst case: Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
[08:50] <jasin> Flannel, where did I do that? Please, do tell me.
[08:51] <linuxnewbie756> ok, and automatix is going to cause that?
[08:51] <IdleOne> jasin: when you said you use it without problems
[08:51] <mnoir> linuxnewbie756: every other way of installing is safer
[08:51] <jasin> Idle, that snot a recomendation.
[08:51] <juliosaucedo> thanks
[08:52] <jasin> Idle, thats my personal expierences with the product.
[08:52] <IdleOne> jasin: then it's a one in a milluion experience
[08:52] <IdleOne> million
[08:52] <jasin> Idle, so you say.
[08:52] <ctothej> Is there still a resolution limit for ATI cards with XGL/Compiz/Beryl ??
[08:52] <mnoir> linuxnewbie756: seriously, it has a bad rep.  In risk management you learn whether a risk is worth the reward.  in this case, most folks do not feel it is.
[08:52] <mwe> !worksforme
[08:52] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:53] <m1n1st3r> anywhere here have experience using the Web-based VMware Management Interface ?
[08:53] <m1n1st3r> er...anyone...
[08:54] <mwe> it doesn't seem so
[08:54] <IdleOne> jasin: seems to me you are hell bent on disrupting this channel and the new Ubuntu user by giving them bad opinions 973 other ppl in this room agree that automatix is not a good tool
[08:54] <jasin> Idle, you dont speak for every single person who's ever used automatix nor could you.
[08:54] <sedra> i agree :)
[08:54] <m1n1st3r> nwe: yeah, guess not, oh well, thx anyways
[08:54] <mwe> m1n1st3r: I haven't had the need
[08:54] <jasin> Idle, only one being a disruption is you.
[08:55] <jasin> Idle, so back off.
[08:55] <mwe> cool down guys ;)
[08:55] <IdleOne> jasin:  I speak from experience automatix has broken my system 1 time because I listened to someone like you and I have learned that I should probably listen to the people telling me to take the safe route rather then the automatix route
[08:55] <Flannel> jasin: we've seen plenty of people coming here with broken installs, having used automatix.
[08:55] <floppyears> hi
[08:55] <m1n1st3r> mwe: yeah pretty niche application, running stupid winblows 2k3 installs in a vm
[08:56] <floppyears> could somebody suggest me a fast good wm that has the blackbox feel to it, but is not as minimalistic ?
[08:56] <IdleOne> jas my name is IdleOne  not Idle
[08:56] <mad_tom> i found that installing java prior to anything with automatix fixes any problem
[08:56] <EnsignRedshirt> Whatever tool you use, it is best to know what it does, and how to undo whatever it does.  The "undo" part is important.
[08:56] <IdleOne> oops I meant jasin
[08:56] <rtking> wow
[08:56] <IdleOne> mwe:  np
[08:56] <mwe> floppyears: I like fluxbox. that is minmalistic but can be made as bloated as you like ;)
[08:57] <jasin> Flannel, i'm sure you do, but some stupid script that's just merely an interface for apt-get is hardly going to take down someone's system.
[08:57] <linuxnewbie756> personally, i have used it twice, it seemed ok, but i ended up reinstalling for other reasons, so i don't know whether it would have eventually needed reinstalling anyway because of automatix. the idea is good, if automatix doesn't work safely enough, someone should make a "safe" program like it
[08:57] <mad_tom> even using the java installer in automatix works, you just have to restart and let it become a broken package, then finish the install (usually involving clicking accept on its TOS)
[08:57] <mnoir> mwe - howzit compae to my fave bloat - KDE?
[08:57] <mnoir> compare i mean
[08:57] <floppyears> mwe: hmm, I think I once tried fluxbox, is it a wm that has a huge man page making it almost unreadable ?
[08:57] <mag_> hey... do you know how to do a data server ?
[08:57] <mwe> mnoir: different ;)
[08:57] <mad_tom> in other news...
[08:57] <Flannel> jasin: it's not an interface for apt-get, and it does take down systems.  However, this is offtopic, if you'd like to continue to discuss this, we can do it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:57] <jewbilee> Hi, I accidently hid the menu bar in amaroK's playlist window, does anyone know how to bring it back?
[08:57] <mnoir> mwe - so am i but i meant can you give it as much eye candy?
[08:58] <mad_tom> my spaeakers are really really static and i cant fathom why, any takers?
[08:58] <mwe> mnoir: not quite but close
[08:58] <mnoir> mwe - izzit as stable?
[08:58] <mad_tom> *speakers
[08:58] <jasin> Flannel, like I told idle, so you say.
[08:58] <linuxnewbie756> jewbilee, what version of amarok are you using?
[08:58] <mwe> mnoir: if you put some work into it
[08:58] <EnsignRedshirt> jewbilee: Someone here might know, but you could also try asking in #kubuntu.
[08:58] <mnoir> mwe - ic
[08:58] <mwe> mnoir: it's plenty stable
[08:58] <phr34ck> what can I do with .bin files?
[08:58] <rasman> mad_tom, what power cables are close to your speakers or wires to your speakers
[08:58] <jewbilee> linuxnewbie: not sure, i believe the newest one
[08:58] <rtking> is channel discussion usually this red?
[08:58] <jasin> Flannel, and yes it is, it modifies sources.lst
[08:58] <phr34ck> I downloaded Java 1.5, and it's .bin file.
[08:58] <mwe> mnoir: I use it on low spec machines
[08:58] <mad_tom> tons...let me relocate them
[08:59] <Flannel> jasin: I could care less if you continue to use it.  But do NOT recommend it here.
[08:59] <IdleOne> phr34ck: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[08:59] <mag_> si ta bueno
[08:59] <mag_> 13:03 < Rainbyte> mag, fijate aqui
[08:59] <mag_> 13:04 < si ta bueno
[08:59] <mag_> 13:03 < Rainbyte> mag, fijate aqui
[08:59] <mag_> 13:04 <  -!- tam [n=tam@ineed2.co.uk]  has joined #ubuntu
[08:59] <mag_> 13:04 < mag_> si ta bueno
[08:59] <mag_> 13:04 < mag_> 13:03 < Rainbyte> mag, fijate aqui
[08:59] <mnoir> mwe: i have a different goal - i cannot give up some kde apps but want a different base
[08:59] <phr34ck> IdleOne,  but I have it, why do I need to do that?
[08:59] <rasman> phr34ck,  Make sure you trust the source of the *.bin file!  Otherwise: 'chmod +x file.bin' to make it executable and then './file.bin'
[08:59] <stefg> mad_tom: do google search for 'ground loop'
[08:59] <linuxnewbie756> when you started up amarok, the splash screen, was it all blue or was it a little guy with headphones?
[08:59] <tam> not very ubuntu specific but, can anyone tell me if theres a good firefox form password saver?
[08:59] <phr34ck> How can I execute the .bin file?
[08:59] <tam> ./file.bin
[09:00] <RickyRay> is it normal for the 700mb image of ubuntu to take extra long to burn?  almost 13 minutes now :S
[09:00] <IdleOne> phr34ck: you trying to install java right? or I missed something you said
[09:00] <mwe> mnoir: yeah. you can run kde apps in fluxbox if you like
[09:00] <RickyRay> usually 700mb discs only take 9 mins max
[09:00] <phr34ck> tam, firefox has a built in feature to save  your passwords.
[09:00] <mnoir> mwe - yep...
[09:00] <jewbilee> linuxnewbie: yes
[09:00] <phr34ck> no, I said I have a .bin file ... what should I do with it?
[09:00] <mad_tom> no dice, still static
[09:00] <phr34ck> What's the use of .bin files?
[09:00] <mwe> mnoir: I don't think KDE _has_ to be bloated though. it can be made sane I think
[09:00] <tam> phr34ck: i don't like it though, i'm just trying to see if theres any other external plugins that i might like better
[09:00] <mad_tom> they worked once, during the first install ever
[09:00] <mad_tom> when i was installing it, running from cd
[09:00] <k0> hmmm amarok seems to loader slower for sum reason
[09:01] <k0> anyone notice this too
[09:01] <rasman> phr34ck, it is similar to function of an *.exe file in windows.
[09:01] <mnoir> mwe - maybe - i do not usually do the work as it is just disk space anyhow and i have plenty
[09:01] <phr34ck> tam, Google what you need. I'm sure you'll find plenty.
[09:01] <jewbilee> i need the menu bar from amarok >.< can anyone help me bring it back lol
[09:01] <phr34ck> so I just double click it?
[09:01] <tam> phr34ck: true, was really only after suggestions. cheers anyway
[09:01] <logivision> I'm looking to use PC Anywhere on my Ubuntu machine but it doesn't support it, it only supports SuSe and Red Hat, is there a way to make it work on Ubuntu Anyways ?
[09:01] <mwe> mnoir: I like the fact that every part of KDE is easily customized
[09:01] <rtking> is channel discussion usually this (red) upsetting??
[09:01] <mnoir> mwe - :)
[09:01] <k0> hmmm amarok is faster when used under xgl
[09:01] <phr34ck> Google is your best friend =)
[09:01] <mnoir> mwe - the component nature is very well thought out as well
[09:02] <mad_tom> BTW, im using an audigy gamer card
[09:02] <mwe> mnoir: yeah
[09:02] <Flannel> rtking: almost never, but occassionally we get people in here who feel they know more than everyone else, and are stubborn about it.  We don't appreciate people giving out bad information.
[09:02] <k0> and alot slower when used with the metacity manager
[09:02] <mnoir> rtking: no
[09:02] <Trinitrogen> how can I get to a pure terminal?
[09:02] <stefg> logivision: any particular reason to not use VNC ?
[09:02] <mnoir> that was an unusual blast
[09:02] <hjmills> mnoir: i dont like the fact that when one bit doesnt work - the whole system is b0rked
[09:02] <Flannel> Trinitrogen: ctrl-alt-f1 (f1-f6 is a terminal, f7 beings you back to your GUI)
[09:02] <rasman> logivisionk, you could try to use alien to convert the rpm to deb but it probably won't work with the ubuntu kernel because ours is usually newer than the those other 2 distro's
[09:02] <logivision> stefg: No, I'm just looking to use a program that doesn't require the client to accept a connection
[09:03] <KenSentMe> I want to file a bug. What package is behind System - Preferences - Sound?
[09:03] <elyon> Could someone please tell me what I should use to repartition my Windows disk (to get more space for Linux)?
[09:03] <rtking> ok thanks (see i am an internet tech and i really HEAR my share of it lol
[09:03] <flo> !pastebin
[09:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:03] <mwe> elyon: gparted
[09:03] <rasman> logivision, you might also want to look at nomachine and freenx for an RDP type service for Linux
[09:03] <linuxnewbie756> i have never had luck with alien, just hope one day they give us a deb
[09:03] <stefg> logivision: although i don't fully understand it might be helpful to look at vino
[09:03] <mnoir> hjmills: reminds me of my first boss who wouldnt install dual density disk drives on the theory ya would lose 2x in a disk crash :)
[09:03] <elyon> mwe - is that a GUI interface?  If not, is there a GUI alternative?
[09:03] <stefg> !vino
[09:03] <ubotu> vino: VNC server for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.0-0ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 173 kB, installed size 1956 kB
[09:04] <mwe> elyezer: it is GUI
[09:04] <elyon> mwe - thank you.
[09:04] <EnsignRedshirt> elyon: I have heard good things about Partition Magic.
[09:04] <mwe> elyezer: you won't find anything easier for linux
[09:04] <mad_tom> is there another channel i can go to that deals perticularly with sound adn its devices?
[09:04] <elyon> EnsignRedshirt - that's what I've used for Windows... didn't know they had a Linux version.
[09:04] <IdleOne> elyon: backup windows before you resize
[09:04] <mnoir> rtking: also the ops are very strict here
[09:04] <xtknight> elyon: gparted should be able to resize ntfs
[09:04] <rasman> linuxnewbie756, alien works when the binaries would work.  I have always gotten a deb but usually the deb doesn't do what I want it to do :)
[09:04] <elyon> IdleOne - Windows is basically my backup partition now ;)
[09:04] <hjmills> mnoir: lol - i also generally prefer gnome - otherwise i would probably learn how to fix it - it just seems to break more than gnome does but that may just be me
[09:04] <EnsignRedshirt> elyon: I was thinking you could resize in windows :)
[09:04] <xtknight> elyon: but ntfs resizing isnt perfectly reliable so backup anything important
[09:05] <elyon> IdleOne - I don't see any reason to use it anymore.
[09:05] <IdleOne> elyon: :)
[09:05] <logivision> stefg: I need a program that I can connect to computers to remote desktop. The clients that I will be connecting to don't have the ability to accept the incoming connection. So I need to be able to install the program, and set permissions so when I try to connect to them, it automatically loads up without requiring them to "Accept" the incoming connection.
[09:05] <linuxnewbie756> what is that program for edeting the data in mp3's called (it is used to change trackname/artist/so on)
[09:05] <mnoir> hjmills: i run gnome on my wife's desktop an my support machine but i like the menuing and slaves too well in kde to give them up
[09:05] <elyon> IdleOne - yeah, I had always heard its a good idea to keep it around for things Linux can't handle... just haven't found such a thing yet ;)
[09:05] <KenSentMe> I've set System - Preferences - Sound and then Music and movies to use my second sound device. I tested it, and it worked. How come that not even totem uses it when i play a video?
[09:05] <mad_tom> soo...no?
[09:06] <elyon> IdleOne - of course, I've only been using Linux full-time for a week now.
[09:06] <xtknight> linuxnewbie756: well, that is called the ID3 tag but i dont know of any apps off the top of my head
[09:06] <madman2> linux.
[09:06] <mnoir> madman2: good point
[09:06] <IdleOne> elyon: always a good idea to make a backup just in case
[09:06] <elyon> IdleOne - understood.
[09:06] <stefg> logivision: i don't get you, but teh vncviewer for win is a tiny dinary, which doesn't even need to be installed
[09:06] <rasman> logivision, does this need to reverse a tunnel over NAT?
[09:06] <tonyKUN> I need help, again
[09:06] <Trinitrogen> Im doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg right now to try and get my resolution up to 1280x1024 on my GF 6600GT and Dell 1740FPT monitor, shoulw I say yes to using the kernel framebuffer device interface?
[09:07] <welly> hi all, i'm trying to tighten up the security on my VPS web server.. i've got it all working as I want (it's running ubuntu 6.06 with apache 2.2.3) however I seem to be doing tasks using the root user, which i understand isn't ideal
[09:07] <mnoir> stefg: how do you run w/o installing?
[09:07] <RickyRay> the ubuntu installer asked me if it was going to scan the mirror, i said yes. now for 14 minutes it's been sitting there
[09:07] <tonyKUN> when installing ubuntu, it asks for mount points and paritions i dont know what to do there
[09:07] <elyon> IdleOne - but in that case... what burner software would you recommend?
[09:07] <RickyRay> 20%, then 40%, now 60%
[09:07] <logivision> Rasman: I'm not sure what that means, this is my second day using Linux
[09:07] <welly> essentially I've got apache and subversion running on it (not interested in anything else on this server)
[09:07] <mnoir> welly: well stop it and use sudo... :)
[09:07] <rasman> Trinitrogen, use the default for framebuffer.  It is usually only necessary for oddball devices
[09:07] <welly> mnoir, well ideally i won't need to ssh into it that often
[09:08] <Flannel> welly: what are you doing as root?
[09:08] <elyon> tonyKUN - that's the very important part that you don't want to mess up.  Do you have a Windows install that you don't want to lose?
[09:08] <Trinitrogen> rasman thanks
[09:08] <linuxnewbie756> if it edits id3 tags, will it work on mp4's
[09:08] <welly> Flannel, basically editing apache conf files
[09:08] <mnoir> welly: i even dont allow root ssh  :)
[09:08] <rasman> logivision, will you have the ability to open ports to the machines like port 22?
[09:08] <welly> mnoir, oh ok :)
[09:08] <mad_tom> so i seemed to have reduced some static with ALSA, but there is still alot of unwanted noise. how can i eliminate it?
[09:08] <Shin_Gouki> hi anyone here who can help me with installing ubuntu 6.10 on a USB Harddisk?
[09:08] <tonyKUN> well i made a ext3 partition for the ubuntu already
[09:08] <welly> oh yeah, i have mysql 5 on it too
[09:08] <IdleOne> elyon: gnomebaker in ubuntu is good also K3B and a few others might be able to recommend something. in windows I use nero
[09:08] <Flannel> welly: oh, that's fine.  Are you actually running as root? or just sudoing for the editor one at a time?
[09:08] <welly> Flannel, have sshed in as root
[09:08] <joss> can someone help a newbie?
[09:08] <welly> Flannel, i suppose it's more about permissions
[09:08] <mnoir> welly: i come from the days when ya telnet in as yourself and su to root - even that is wildly unsecure :)
[09:09] <elyon> tonyKUN - okay.  You need to create a swap partition for Linux too (ext3, you'll select it for Swap later)
[09:09] <rasman> logivision, next question; do you need the ability to work on the desktop for extended periods of time or just a quick gui from time to time
[09:09] <logivision> Rasman: ALl i need to be able to do is remotely connect to a pc, and be able to control their desktop. The only other requirment is that the computer i'm connecting to doesn't require ANY user activity
[09:09] <tonyKUN> does it matter if i make the partition off a slave harddrive?
[09:09] <Flannel> welly: oh.  Er, disable root, then defintaely disable remote root logins.  SSH in as yourself, then use sudo to get permissions
[09:09] <joss> how do i delete a file on a windows partition? it seems to be read only
[09:09] <elyon> IdleOne - and gnomebaker does everything?  Images, data, music, etc?
[09:09] <welly> ok i'll do that then, that's a start!
[09:09] <IdleOne> elyon: yes
[09:09] <Flannel> !fuse | joss
[09:09] <ubotu> joss: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:09] <mnoir> Flannel: that is the correct way!
[09:09] <logivision> Rasman: it depends. what happens is if somebody calls me and has a problem, i need to be able to connect to 1) see what they are doing and 2) fix it if i can
[09:09] <elyon> tonyKUN - it shouldn't, but some of the more experienced people here may be able to answer that better for you.
[09:10] <logivision> Rasman: I can be connected at times from anything from 1 minute to 2 hours
[09:10] <rasman> logivision, will you need to share the screen with a user on the other end?
[09:10] <mad_tom> at least tell me i am not being ignored...
[09:10] <elyon> tonyKUN - I know with Windows its better to have the swap file on a completely seperate hard disk.  not sure if the same applies for Linux.
[09:10] <Flannel> welly: you want to use passwd -l (lower case L) to lock the root account
[09:10] <EnsignRedshirt> joss: I think the short, safe answer is: you don't.
[09:10] <joss> huh?
[09:10] <logivision> Rasman: No, I just need to see theirs.
[09:10] <joss> it's just a file
[09:11] <joss> will that mess things up?
[09:11] <logivision> Rasman: I also need to be able to move the mouse, and use the keyboard. File transfer would be nice but not necessary by any means.
[09:11] <tonyKUN> i have windows right now
[09:11] <cavediver> Is there an easy way to install a Ubuntu live-cd onto a USB-stick =
[09:11] <Flannel> joss: not necessarily, but NTFS writing (that includes deleting) is still in beta state
[09:11] <elyon> Joss - if you've determined its absolutely okay to delete the file, right-click on it and select "Properties"  Then, choose "Permissions" and remove the tick from "Read ONly"
[09:11] <joss> okay
[09:11] <joss> well
[09:12] <soon> Lend me some advice: I want to automatically create a backup of my USB memory stick every time I plug it in ... in general terms how would I do this? BASH script, cron task, or some other thing?
[09:12] <elyon> joss - but trust Flannel too :P  He knows a lot more than me.
[09:12] <joss> i thought i might be able do delete some nasty windows shit
[09:12] <mad_tom> ugh
[09:12] <EnsignRedshirt> joss: Is the windows file system NTFS?
[09:12] <joss> anyway, thanks
[09:12] <rasman> logivision, the easiest way would be to use Gnome's VNC server: System --> Preferences --> Remote Desktop
[09:12] <joss> it is
[09:12] <ar2k7> hey how do you change wallpaper on top of the beryl cube thingy?
[09:12] <tonyKUN> elyon - so make a swap off a separate harddrive (my slave) and set it as swap, but what do i set my partition to install linux to?
[09:12] <rasman> logivision, make sure that you set the password and don't require confirmation
[09:12] <elyon> ar2k7 - is that the technical term? ;)
[09:12] <PSIplus> EnsignRedshirt: NTFS == New Technology File System, the FS found in Windows NT (Windows 2000, XP, Vista, ...)
[09:12] <logivision> Rasman: Is there any way to make this program automatically run on the clients end when the computer turns on?
[09:13] <PSIplus> EnsignRedshirt: I recommend to use ntfs-3g driver
[09:13] <ar2k7> elyon, is that the technical answer ;)
[09:13] <mnoir> joss: make sure you back up the whole ntfs partition prior unless you do not mind losing things which might happen
[09:13] <amonkey> i'm using ssh to log on to my edgy box, and i'd like gnome to start azureus so that i can close the ssh session and it won't quit. It crashed and I want to start it up again.
[09:13] <ctothej> How do I pipe the output of a command into a text file?
[09:13] <rasman> logivision, before or after their account is created?
[09:13] <elyon> tonyKUN - your partition for the actual Linux install is whichever partition you made for Ubuntu (non-swap)
[09:13] <EnsignRedshirt> joss: My knowledge might be out of date here, but in the not-too-distant past, Linux didn't handle writing or deleteing files in NTFS.
[09:13] <joss> nothing important on that partition, but thanks anyway
[09:13] <logivision> Rasman: After. I'll be building the PC here, installing linux, creating the user and installing the software, then sending the PC to the client
[09:14] <Flannel> logivision: check out the OEM installation
[09:14] <tonyKUN> elyon - what do i put the mount point as? "/", "/boot", "/user", etc
[09:14] <elyon> Another question for the gurus - when I setup a server (simple web server) in Linux, will it be running even when no one is logged in?
[09:14] <aoupi> ctothej:  command > file.txt or command >> file.txt to ad at end of file
[09:14] <Flannel> elyon: yep
[09:14] <logivision> Flannel: Not sure what that is.... This is my second day using Linux
[09:14] <hassan2a> hello all
[09:14] <EnsignRedshirt> elyon: Yes.
[09:14] <ctothej> aoupi: thanks
[09:15] <elyon> tonyKUN - I could be wrong here, but I used "/" and haven't had any problems.
[09:15] <EnsignRedshirt> elyon: (not that I am a guru :)
[09:15] <sharperguy> when i scan my amarok collection it tells me theirs a problem with taglib and i should replac ot
[09:15] <elyon> tonyKUN - I believe that using "/user" will store all the user home directory info on that partition.
[09:15] <tonyKUN> elyon - what would happen if it is wrong
[09:15] <sharperguy> when i scan my amarok collection it tells me there's a problem with taglib and i should replace it, how do i do this?
[09:15] <amonkey> how can i use ssh to start azureus on my desktop without having it close when i close my terminal?
[09:15] <mnoir> no - /home is where user things are
[09:15] <Trinitrogen> okay I just reconfigured xorg, and added the resolution that I want, and when I try and change to it, the screen gets kinda garbled. I can see my desktop in the top right corner (its presumabley 1024x768 pixels wide) but the area outside that is a garbled mess of the desktop. I try to click the return to previous resolution button, but my mouse cursor doesn't seem to be pointing where the computer registers Im click (if that m
[09:15] <logivision> Rasman: Also, is there a way to make a certain account automatically logon when the computer turns on ?
[09:15] <Flannel> logivision: OEM install lets you do all your tweaking, installing, etc, then run a command, and on next startup of the computer, it'll ask  (presumably the real owner) for the final setup steps (timezone, username, password, etc), and delete the temporary OEM user
[09:15] <rasman> logivision, this should work.  I would also look into x11vnc
[09:16] <elyon> mnoir - I was referring to the Ubuntu install when it is setting up partitions.
[09:16] <elyon> tonyKUN - well, honestly... things could go very wrong :P
[09:16] <mnoir> elyon: so am i
[09:16] <elyon> mnoir - Then I stand corrected :)
[09:16] <mnoir> :)
[09:16] <Gosha> is there anything like 'fruity loops' for linux/ubuntu?
[09:16] <jasin> lol
[09:16] <rasman> logivision, go to System --> Admin --> Login Window and set up an autologon account either by time (ie. 10 seconds) or everytime
[09:17] <flugheim> hi i have a problem, i cant login with gdm, it just goes to the loginscreen when i try to login.. I can login to the computer using recovery mode (shell)..
[09:17] <mnoir> elyon: you should try my eggs - when the fox doesn't get the chickens...
[09:17] <Riyonuk> Can someone tell me what that program is that shows the firefox browsers on the desktop? http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=193852672444a4ccd0d0a84&m=screen
[09:17] <Flannel> flugheim: can you login using safe mode? (it's an option under sessions, at GDM)
[09:17] <borg> how come when i install some GTK2.0 themes, the images of them dont register and the theme failes to render them?
[09:17] <flugheim> anyone who knows how to fix this?
[09:17] <tonyKUN> elyon - well this makes me feel at ease
[09:18] <flugheim> Flannel: no, it wont work
[09:18] <flugheim> no modes works
[09:18] <rasman> logivision, also make sure that you get ssh access to the computers.  That way you can modify the remote settings.
[09:18] <elyon> One more question, which Rasman reminded me about just now.  How would I go about setting up my login screen to present a list of user names to choose from (similar to WinXP)?  This is for my less-literate family members that I've forced into using Linux.
[09:18] <welly> how do i stop the root user from sshing in?
[09:18] <Flannel> logivision: see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuDownUnder/BOFs/OEMInstaller but moreso https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview for an overview of what they do
[09:18] <dragon> elyon: xdm does that
[09:18] <elyon> tonyKUN - You asked... I answered to the best of my ability.  I used "/" without problems :)
[09:18] <ctothej> What is the difference between overlay types Xv and opengl for ATI cards?
[09:18] <Alpha1> hi
[09:18] <mnoir> welly: you need to alter /etc/ssh/sshd config
[09:19] <welly> mnoir, ok thanks!
[09:19] <rasman> elyon, Choose the Happy Gnome with browser login theme
[09:19] <mnoir> that is not exact file name
[09:19] <tonyKUN> elyon - should the partitions be logical or primary?
[09:19] <elyon> tonyKUN - primary.
[09:19] <logivision> Rasman: How do i get Remote Desktop to automatically start up with the computer ?
[09:19] <tonyKUN> both?
[09:19] <jojoman02> what is the best tutorial for installing on a macbook?
[09:19] <linuxnewbie756> does anyone know how to install amarok VERSION 1.4.3 on dapper?
[09:19] <Alpha1> I'm running gnome - and when I try to use kflickr to auth against the flickr website, it opens the html in bluefish instead of firefox (f-spot opens the site in firefox though) - any ideas?
[09:19] <mnoir> welly: and restart after modding
[09:19] <elyon> rasman - I've been looking for different themes for Gnome and haven't had much luck...
[09:19] <logivision> Rasman: What is this SSHU Acces you speak of!
[09:19] <mnoir> restart sshd
[09:19] <Alpha1> is there some weird kde association with bluefish?
[09:19] <flugheim> Flannel: anymore ideas?
[09:19] <rasman> flugheim, do you have space still on your hard drive?
[09:20] <amonkey> how can i tell a command to start on a different desktop? the --???=:0 thing,
[09:20] <flugheim> nope
[09:20] <aristoteles> is there someone here who owns the gatewatch 2 fancontroller
[09:20] <aristoteles> ?
[09:20] <flugheim> it is full
[09:20] <Gosha> !audio
[09:20] <marshall> linuxnewbie756, sudo apt-get install amarok
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <flugheim> Flannel: thanks
[09:20] <RickyRay> why does my installation of ubuntu freeze when i press enter on the install/run ubuntu when i boot from the cd
[09:20] <xst> I've just bought a new monitor that cannot handle the same display settings as my old monitor. How do I make (k)ubuntu re-probe my monitor and configure X accordingly?
[09:20] <rasman> logivision, ssh or openssh.  It is an encrypted command line method that gives you the keys to the kingdom
[09:20] <mnoir> Alpha1: when you installed bluefish it added itself as the primary app
[09:20] <lufis> xst: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:20] <RickyRay> a little tiny little small green streak appears underneath the slider bar when it freezes
 I need to give user 'alex' read permissions to that location using the command line
[09:21] <linuxnewbie756> yes, but its weird, i have did this before "sudo apt-get install amarok", and it installs 1.4.3, but NOW,on a freshly installed system, it tries to install 1.3.9
[09:21] <elyon> RickyRay - sounds to me like a video problem...
[09:21] <flugheim> Flannel: i forgot that i had this problem once before.. :)
[09:21] <flugheim> bye
[09:21] <desp> Hi freinds
[09:21] <xst> lufis: Thanks! I'll give it a try
[09:21] <RickyRay> i'll try the video safe mode?
[09:21] <rasman> logivision, In fact, I would suggest that you encrypt your remote desktop sessions over it.  Otherwise any keystroke typed and video received will be transmitted in the clear
[09:21] <marshall> xst, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:21] <jewbilee> Can anyone tell me how to install a program that is .tar.gz-ed?
[09:21] <logivision> Rasman: Thank you. I'll look into it. But for a now, Is it possible to make this Remote Desktop automatically start when the user logs on?
[09:21] <marshall> xst, and you'll be pretty safe just accepting all the defaults it gives you
[09:21] <BigToe> this friend of mine has a file in /usr/local/lib and he wants to give user alex read permissions using the command line, how?
[09:21] <elyon> RickyRay - try that.  If that works, then there's your answer :)
[09:21] <mnoir> !build | jewbilee
[09:21] <ubotu> jewbilee: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:21] <lufis> xst: no prob... you'll need your new montor's specs
[09:21] <desp> I had a problem befor with installing ubuntu on USB-Hd on a laptop
[09:22] <tblaine> how do you remove GRUB from the system after uninstalling Linux?
[09:22] <tonyKUN> elyon - what kind of probelms can happen if mount point goes wrong?
[09:22] <logivision> Rasman: Also, Is it possiblle to login to it from a window's based machine? with TightVNC or something of the sort ?
[09:22] <desp> now I installd it and I need to make mountpoints plz
[09:22] <BigToe> this friend of mine has a file in /usr/local/lib and he wants to give user alex read permissions using the command line, how?
[09:22] <rasman> logivision, just enable it and make gnome automatically login with a user.
[09:22] <mnoir> jewbilee: or untar it and read the instructions
[09:22] <Alpha1> mnoir: that sucks
[09:22] <Alex> BigToe: stop repeating yourself.
[09:22] <elyon> tonyKUN - you could lose your ability to boot your computer.  You will still be able to use the Ubuntu Live CD to boot and try to fix the problem.
[09:22] <rasman> logivision, yup.  I like tightvnc
[09:22] <logivision> Rasman: Thanks, i'm going to go up and try to connect. WIsh me luck!
[09:23] <Alpha1> how do I make firefox the primary app? double clicking on .html files opens them in firefox though
[09:23] <roler> My Firefox 2.0 is not using my gnome GTK2 theme buttons or input fields. How can I make it so it does?
[09:23] <BigToe> why? it's the only way people read the questions I ask :\
[09:23] <mnoir> Alpha1: i prefer quanta+ but this problem is not that hard to fix
[09:23] <DeMan> hi. I have two files which I want to run in a cron. I want each one of them, to run every 30 minutes, but I want them to have 15 minutes between each other.
[09:23] <lufis> Alpha1: try system > preferences > preferred applications
[09:23] <elyon> tonyKUN - and remember, with the Live CD, you can come in here and get more help.  But I'm pretty sure you're safe with the advice I gave you.
[09:23] <jasin> Alpha, make is the default browser
[09:23] <tonyKUN> so what do you people think, that mounting point should I choose for the harddrive that i'm installing ubuntu to?
[09:23] <Alpha1> ta
[09:23] <desp> anyone can help me please
[09:23] <RickyRay> graphics safe mode produces the same thing
[09:23] <mnoir> Alpha1: right click and look for file associations a lot like in windows, i think
[09:23] <RickyRay> it could be because i'm trying to use raid 1, but that's what i need
[09:24] <rasman> BigToe, 'chgrp alex /usr/local/lib'  && 'chmod g+r /usr/local/lib'
[09:24] <BigToe> thanks
[09:24] <xst> lufis: Hmm, (k)ubuntu usually detects that keyboard/monitor/graphics card itself when booting from the CD. Can't I make it re-autoprobe these settings instead of the somewhat un-userfriendly dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg trick?
[09:24] <Alpha1> okie dokie (I've got firefox under prefered apps already)
[09:24] <logivision> Rasman: Sorry, last question for at least a few minutes. A noob one to end off. How do i check my IP ?
[09:24] <lufis> xst: I don't know, i've just always used that
[09:24] <mnoir> Alpha1: remove bluefish?
[09:24] <Alpha1> lol k
[09:24] <Alpha1> bbl
[09:25] <lufis> xst: it isn't difficult really... the only thing you have to input on are the monitor's sync specs
[09:25] <desp> guys
[09:25] <mnoir> Alpha1: i mean from the mime define, not the machine!
[09:25] <rasman> logivision, ifconfig -- also before sending these computers out.  Make sure to install openssh-server if you have a strong admin password.
[09:25] <rasman> logivision, you'll thank me later on :)
[09:25] <Alpha1> ok
[09:25] <linuxnewbie756> what are some good music players? i want to be as close to itunes as possible
[09:25] <hassan2a> re
[09:25] <hassan2a> re
[09:25] <hassan2a> re
[09:25] <desp> I need to creat mount points
[09:25] <hassan2a> e
[09:25] <desp> any idea
[09:25] <hassan2a> er
[09:25] <hassan2a> re
[09:25] <hassan2a> e
[09:25] <lufis> linuxnewbie756: amarok definitely
[09:25] <hassan2a> e
[09:26] <mnoir> !ops
[09:26] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[09:26] <hassan2a> re
[09:26] <logivision> Rasman: thank you. Thank you for all of your help so far too.
[09:26] <rasman> logivision, you can use putty from windows and ssh from a linux client
[09:26] <Alpha1> mnoir: where is the mime stuff?
[09:26] <hassan2a> !op
[09:26] <hassan2a> !deop
[09:26] <hassan2a> !ops
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about deop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <linuxnewbie756> i love amarok,
[09:26] <linuxnewbie756> lufis, what version are you using?
[09:26] <rasman> linuxnewbie756, amarok is supposed to be pretty good, but I like banshee
[09:26] <lufis> linuxnewbie756: 1.4.4 i think
[09:26] <Alpha1> I like beep-media-player
[09:26] <linuxnewbie756> lufis, how did you install it?
[09:26] <jasin> alpha1, To make Firefox your default web browser, select Tools > OptionsEdit > PreferencesFirefox > Preferences
[09:26] <jasin>   and click the Check Now button in the Main panel.
[09:26] <lufis> linuxnewbie756: compiled it
[09:27] <tblaine> I installed linux to a second hard drive, needed to remove it to install on the drive in a second machine, now I cannot access my WinXP Pro that was originally in the first system, how do I remove or bypass the GRUB? I keep getting Loading Stage 1.5 then the error code 21
[09:27] <linuxnewbie756> lufis, from source? can you show me how?
[09:27] <Alpha1> ta
[09:27] <desp> Guys anyone csn see me ?
[09:27] <tonyKUN> desp - ya
[09:27] <desp> nice
[09:27] <lufis> linuxnewbie756: sure... do you have an IM handle elsewhere? freenode is weird about pm's
[09:27] <roler> My Firefox 2.0 is not using my gnome GTK2 theme buttons or input fields. How can I make it so it does?
[09:27] <linuxnewbie756> tblaine, search the web for a program that will modify your MBR
[09:27] <tonyKUN> whats a good irc client that works with unbuntu
[09:27] <IdleOne> xchat
[09:28] <lufis> tonyKUN: gaim?
[09:28] <linuxnewbie756> i do. what do you have?
[09:28] <markus_nagle1> irssi
[09:28] <lufis> linuxnewbie756: aim, msn, jabber
[09:28] <cowmix> anyone know of a graphical text editor that support 'large' files like TextPad for windows?
[09:28] <welly> hmm.. usermod -Gwww-data username should add username to the group www-data right?
[09:28] <linuxnewbie756> lets go with msn
[09:28] <Flannel> tblaine: you'll need to use 'fixmbr' to reinstall your windows bootloader
[09:28] <h3xis> xchat
[09:28] <desp> no support with mount points or something ?
[09:28] <dragon> roler: you can't since firefox has it's own themes unless you do a lot of editting of course
[09:28] <lufis> linuxnewbie756: okay... samuella@gmail.com
[09:28] <Flannel> cowmix: SciTE, Notepad++, there are lots
[09:28] <cowmix> Notepad++ is for linux?
[09:28] <tblaine> Flannel I don't have the install CD it was preloaded on the system
[09:29] <linuxnewbie756> whoa, is that your msn name?
[09:29] <Flannel> cowmix: er, you said for windows?
[09:29] <lufis> linuxnewbie756: YES
[09:29] <lufis> yes*
[09:29] <linuxnewbie756> how can you use a gmail name with msn? how hard is that to set up, you using gaim?
[09:29] <Flannel> cowmix: all text editors should support larger files.  Some more than others.  They all surpass notepads size constraint
[09:30] <lufis> linuxnewbie756: It doesn't involve gaim...  msn allows you to register non-microsoft emails
[09:30] <dragon> linuxnewbie756: yuo can use yahoo address with msn also
[09:30] <roler> dragon, I thoughts that what the firefox-gnome-support package was for?
[09:30] <daniel1988> hi everyone! I've just installed Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft).  I want to have that amazing 3d desktop running. Is this howto ok? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851   Assuming that I have gf4 mx460 go on my laptop. TIA
[09:30] <tblaine> linuxnewbie756 I've tried, but can't find one, or misreading the directions
[09:30] <sff> DBO
[09:30] <sff> [a] freebsd_fan
[09:30] <sff> [BTF] Chm0d
[09:30] <sff> [H5N1] 
[09:30] <sff> [L30N] 
[09:30] <sff> [lynx] 
[09:30] <theflyingfool> hey my class is trying to get ubuntu running on a bunch pentum 2s any advise
[09:30] <Flannel> tblaine: you'll need to track down a copy of a bootdisk, or keep grub around on a small /boot partition
[09:31] <DBO> what is this, year of the idiot?
[09:31] <lufis> theflyingfool: that's a little broad, don't you think :P
[09:31] <IdleOne> theflyingfool: install xubuntu
[09:31] <Alpha1> I'm thinking KDE things html files are associated with bluefish
[09:31] <Flannel> theflyingfool: get the alternate CD, do a "server" install from the alternate CD, then work up a GUI from there (fluxbox, blackbox, whatever)
[09:31] <jasin> daniel1988, if you have an nvida card that will work.
[09:31] <Alpha1> while gnome knows its firefox
[09:31] <Alpha1> s/things/thinks/g
[09:31] <theflyingfool> when doing a server will it still have all the repos
[09:32] <rasman> daniel1988, that looks good.  I also use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[09:32] <daniel1988> jasin: it's Nvidia GF4 MX 460GO
[09:32] <Gosha> "GStreamer and outputs them in Ogg Vorbis, FLAC, or WAV format, or MP3 format if you have the GStreamer lame plugin" <-- is the GStreamer bad in any way?
[09:32] <rtking> what is in ubuntu and what is the difference between x k u and ed?
[09:32] <Flannel> theflyingfool: yes, it'll be a normall ubuntu system, just with only a command line, at first
[09:32] <jasin> daniel, ok
[09:32] <pi-meson> i'm trying to install 6.10 on a new machine with a GeForce 8800 GTX using the standard (not alternate) CD, and getting an error saying X can't start
[09:32] <marshall> Alpha1, System> Preferences> Preferred Applications
[09:32] <rasman> theflyingfool, are you using xubuntu?
[09:32] <tblaine> Flannel how do I reinstall just the GRUB? I tried reinstalling Linux but it now hangs when I try choose load Windows option
[09:32] <Flannel> rtking: their default WM, they can all be installed on the same system.
[09:33] <logivision> Rasman: Thanks. It's working great!
[09:33] <kitche> rtking: ubunt has gnome as a desktop environment kubuntu has kde and xubuntu has xfce and ed is for education
[09:33] <Flannel> tblaine: you'll need to make a small /boot partition for your grub files, then get the grub CD, and install grub.
[09:33] <theflyingfool> what are the min sys requirements for xubuntu
[09:33] <Shin_Gouki> hello! someone here who is able to help me with installing ubuntu 6.10 on a USB Harddisk?
[09:33] <KenSentMe> I've installed network-manager-gnome, but i only sees my wired network, although my wireless drivers work and i have a wpa_supplicant.conf file configured. How can i get the applet to see my wireless connection?
[09:33] <pi-meson> is there any way to tell the installer "just do standard VGA for the x-session" (with a vesa driver) or something similar?
[09:33] <Flannel> !grub | tblaine
[09:33] <ubotu> tblaine: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:33] <theflyingfool> shin_gouki: does your bios support booting from usb
[09:33] <aristoteles> is there someone here who owns the gatewatch 2 fancontroller?
[09:33] <Flannel> theflyingfool: the first link there has a link to a grub CD (scroll all te way down)
[09:33] <pi-meson> (for the record, the "safe" graphics installer fails in an identical manner)
[09:33] <Gosha> !kubuntu | rtking
[09:33] <ubotu> rtking: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[09:34] <Gosha> !xubuntu | rtking
[09:34] <ubotu> rtking: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[09:34] <Shin_Gouki> theflyingfool , yes it does im ablt to boot live CD from usb DVD burner
[09:34] <hjmills> if i create a launcher with "gnome-terminal -x <command>" how do i get it to show the output for 5 secs?
[09:34] <Gosha> !eduubuntu | rtking
[09:34] <Gosha> :D
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eduubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <hjmills> currently the terminal window closes instantly
[09:34] <tblaine> !grub
[09:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:34] <tonyKUN> what mount point should i set target partition to?
[09:34] <rasman> pi-meson, there is an alternate install cd that will install with a text based wizard
[09:34] <KenSentMe> I've installed network-manager-gnome, but i only sees my wired network, although my wireless drivers work and i have a wpa_supplicant.conf file configured. How can i get the applet to see my wireless connection?
[09:34] <Flannel> rtking: edubuntu is ubuntu with some educational oriented games/etc, but it also is a client/server sort of thing, allowing teachers to control the kids screens and stuff.  Which most people don't want, if you want edubuntu sorts of things, install ubuntu, then install the edubuntu games and themes and stuff
[09:34] <tblaine> thanks Flannel
[09:35] <Gosha> !edubuntu | rtking
[09:35] <ubotu> rtking: Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[09:35] <jasin> You can reinstall grub with: grub-install /dev/hda
[09:35] <pi-meson> rasman: I know, but I don't have a burner and am not near one :( I was hoping there was some other way -- it just seems like installing should work in the safe mode
[09:35] <rtking> wow thanks all!!
[09:36] <Gosha> ... ? is that sarcastiv?
[09:36] <hjmills> and does anybody know vba? i know its awful but i found some code i certainly did not create and im getting worried...
[09:36] <Gosha> c*
[09:36] <jasin> hda should be your mbr.
[09:36] <rasman> pi-meson, i thought there was a way to trick the installer to drop into a text mode but I can't remember it
[09:36] <Flannel> rasman, pi-meson, no there isn't
[09:36] <mike0002> having a problem with networking
[09:36] <kitche> hjmills: you mean visual basic for applications?
[09:36] <hjmills> rasman: label the alternate install cd as the desktop install cd?
[09:36] <mike0002> i can connect to things on the local network but nothing on the outside network works
[09:36] <hjmills> kitche: yeah
[09:36] <mike0002> eth0 is configured correctly but nothing seems to be using it
[09:37] <kitche> hjmills: well unless you have Office installed VBA can't do anything
[09:37] <rasman> Flannel, Thanks
[09:37] <mike0002> restarting networking does nothing
[09:37] <mwe> mike0002: what does ifconfig say? is the gateway set etc?
[09:37] <hjmills> kitche: it has a load of stuff including an "Application.Run "utility.wlib_AutoDial", stDialString
[09:37] <Gosha> system load: 6.84  <- what does that number mean?
[09:37] <mwe> Gosha: 6.84 %
[09:38] <mike0002> ip is 192.168.0.3
[09:38] <rasman> pi-meson, have you tried running the installer with noacpi options?
[09:38] <mike0002> gateway is .1
[09:38] <Gosha> okay, then .. why is the bar showing red all the way to the top?
[09:38] <hjmills> kitche: its on the win xp partition on my laptop and it does have office installed - im only worrying because its stuff i havent writen on a button i didnt know existed
[09:38] <mike0002> mask is x.x.255.0 etc
[09:38] <Shin_Gouki> hello! someone here who is able to help me with installing ubuntu 6.10 on a USB Harddisk?
[09:38] <mike0002> standard setup
[09:38] <mike0002> i can recieve stuff from other computers on the network and browse other computers
[09:38] <mike0002> but cant get it to connect to the interet
[09:39] <mike0002> and other computers on the same network can connect to the internet
[09:39] <pi-meson> rasman: no, I'll try that now
[09:39] <mwe> mike0002: are the nameservers set?
[09:39] <mike0002> i never unset them
[09:39] <mike0002> so i would assume they would be
[09:39] <mwe> mike0002: did you set them?
[09:39] <robtp> mike0002: does sudo dhclient3 (your connection) work for anything?
[09:39] <mike0002> it worked yesterday and today it just stopped working
[09:39] <mwe> mike0002: cat /etc/resolv.conf to confirm
[09:39] <mwe> odd
[09:39] <hjmills> kitche: it seems as if something has added it to dial something - and I NEVER want my database to dial ANYTHING so its probably bad
[09:40] <mike0002> nameserver 192.168.0.1
[09:40] <hjmills> mike0002: thats ok then
[09:40] <theflyingfool> has any one installed dsl on a Ipod Suffle with the usb conection
[09:40] <hjmills> theflyingfool: a new one? isnt music enough for you?
[09:40] <robtp> mike0002: try deleting /etc/resolv.conf and then cycle the connection
[09:41] <nny> meh ##linux is dead, might as well rename it
[09:41] <viller> hi
[09:41] <mike0002> how do i cycle the  connection
[09:41] <viller> what's the name of the theme changer app in GNOME?
[09:41] <robtp> sudo ifdown (connection - probably eth0) followed by sudo ifup eth0
[09:41] <nny> at least in #ubuntu people know how to carry on conversations minus the arrogance
[09:41] <robtp> viller: gnome-theme-manager
[09:41] <hjmills> nny: what was ##linux for?
[09:41] <borg> how come my gtk themes dont work?
[09:42] <borg> in gnome
[09:42] <BigToe> because
[09:42] <nny> ##linux i dunno, supposed to be linux support, but it is more of a hodgepodge of people
[09:42] <borg> they just look ugly and the images of the theme arent being used
[09:42] <theflyingfool> is there a diffrent linux you can run on usb thats more reliable
[09:42] <rtking> byte fur now
[09:42] <logivision> Is there a GUI for Wine ?
[09:42] <mike0002> now nothing resolves
[09:42] <nny> LVm.. i always wondered why i dont like it
[09:42] <sinisterguy> i need help with playing vob files in ubuntu. no matter what media player i use, the video is really jittery and only plays one frame about very 5-30 seconds
[09:43] <robtp> mike0002: not even locally?
[09:43] <nny> anyone used LVM more than I? I am not used to dealing with it
[09:43] <robtp> sinisterguy: whats the cpu usage when youre playing?
[09:43] <mwe> theflyingfool: you could try slax
[09:43] <Rick_Timmis> sinisterguy are you running Xgl or AIGLX ?
[09:43] <mike0002> locally it still works
[09:43] <mike0002> but pinging google now says unknown host instead of timing out
[09:44] <theflyingfool> i heard slax is hard to set up
[09:44] <robtp> mike0002: resolv.conf is empty?
[09:44] <sinisterguy> Rick_Timmis: nope i'm just running regular old xorg
[09:44] <seanj> slax is about as hard as slackware, and there are tons of how-to's to be found online
[09:44] <phr34ck> so I clicked a .bin file and it's listed in the process tree .. what is it doing?>
[09:44] <robtp> mike0002: try sudo dhclient eth0 (assuming you already cycled)
[09:44] <Shin_Gouki> anyone here with experince with: installing ubuntu on a USB - Harddisk??
[09:44] <kitche> theflyingfool: well slax is just a live cd
[09:44] <phr34ck> the file is JDK 1.5
[09:45] <robtp> phr34ck: its running apparently, why didnt you install through apt?
[09:45] <mwe> Shin_Gouki: I installed ubuntu on the hdd from a stick
[09:45] <sinisterguy> robtp: cpu usage is about 10%
[09:45] <seanj> phr34ck: also, all the output is in text/terminal mode
[09:45] <robtp> sinisterguy: what app(s) have you been using
[09:45] <mike0002> it put me to 192.168.0.102
[09:45] <mike0002> i want .0.3
[09:45] <kitche> phr34ck: probably installing something
[09:45] <viller> what's the name of the app you can change gdm themes with?
[09:45] <Shin_Gouki> mwe, on a USB harddisk?
[09:46] <phr34ck> shouldn't it be installing packages for the JDK 1.5 ?
[09:46] <mwe> Shin_Gouki: no ide
[09:46] <mike0002> how do i change it back to static ip
[09:46] <robtp> phr34ck: it might be, you need to run it from a terminal
[09:46] <Shin_Gouki> nwe... see i want to install on a USB hard disk :)
[09:46] <nny> anyone here know hwo to check sata with smartctl?
[09:46] <phr34ck> well, it's already running now. I'll wait a little and see what will happen
[09:46] <kitche> phr34ck: .bin doesn't install packages it just extracts the java binaries to the fodler that you ran the bin from
[09:46] <Eruantalon> Why doesnt grub find any devices when i run the livecd(edgy) while trying to recover from a windows install
[09:46] <robtp> mike0002: go to Administration > Network, select the connection, properties, then use static ip
[09:47] <phr34ck> kitche,  and that means ?
[09:47] <mwe> Shin_Gouki: I assume the process would be the same though. I hear there are some problems installing to usb hdds in general, though. I don't know the current status for that
[09:47] <sinisterguy> robtp: i tried xine, vlc and totem-xine
[09:47] <robtp> Eruantalon: i can understand, a windows install can be traumatizing
[09:47] <phr34ck> well, it's extracting the necessary "stuff" so I can develop using JDK 1.5, yes?
[09:47] <robtp> sinisterguy: will it play in totem (i have no idea what a vob is)
[09:47] <carlito_> salut
[09:47] <logivision> I have a program that's frozen. How do I kill it?>
[09:47] <kitche> phr34ck: exactly as a I said you have to move the foldrs in the right spot to use it
[09:47] <Shin_Gouki> mwe ,thats the prob... i installed on a usb hdd but.. when i but up GRUB fails...
[09:47] <viller> what's the name of the app you can change gdm themes with?
[09:47] <daedra> logivision: ps -x
[09:47] <mwe> logivision: kill or xkill
[09:47] <daedra> logivision: then kill PROCESS_NUMBER
[09:47] <phr34ck> kitche, and how do I know the right spot ?
[09:48] <logivision> daedra: how do i get the process number!
[09:48] <sinisterguy> robtp: a vob file is the mpeg-2 video file that's on a dvd
[09:48] <pinchmesh> type "top"
[09:48] <mwe> Shin_Gouki: yeah. I don't know how to solve it generally. what is the error?
[09:48] <arrenlex> logivision: Just use "killall <programname>"
[09:48] <sinisterguy> robtp: i'm trying to play it off my hard drive
[09:48] <arrenlex> logivision: or xkill and click on it
[09:48] <Eruantalon> robtp: What it does to your mbr is traumatizing but with other distros it was very easy to fix. I am guessing it cant be done in ubuntu edgy eft
[09:48] <pinchmesh> process numbers are listed in top
[09:48] <daedra> logivision: look at the number on the far right after ps -x
[09:48] <seanj> phr34ck: look around for a directory that it made, such as jdk-blah-blah.. you'll have to move it around, etc, to use it... and you're better off installing sun-java5-jdk from apt repos
[09:48] <amonkey> how do i get a program to open up on another x desktop?
[09:48] <Shin_Gouki> mwe grub error 21 ;)
[09:48] <daedra> logivision: sorry far left :)
[09:48] <mwe> logivision: you can just killall <name> or xkill or use ps -e to locate the pid
[09:49] <mwe> Shin_Gouki: that's informative ;)
[09:49] <daedra> haha
[09:49] <robtp> Eruantalon: i didnt read your problem, but i bet grub-install (hd0) [or whatever you use]  would fix it
[09:49] <phr34ck> well, I'm not going to download it again, my connection is very slow
[09:49] <seanj> :(
[09:49] <robtp> sinisterguy: i dunno, you got me, is mem use high?
[09:49] <viller> what's the name of the app you can change gdm themes with?
[09:49] <daedra> I can't believe torvalds name for Linux was Phreax
[09:50] <Eruantalon> robtp it would except grub cant find any devices
[09:50] <mwe> Shin_Gouki: is it correctly configured? error 21 means the disk does not exist (or grub thinks so)
[09:50] <Eruantalon> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[09:50] <Shin_Gouki> mwe see :D , i read it up and it said.. that the adress of the hdd could not resolved... seems that is a problem how to dress the usb harddisk on start up... grub ... :/
[09:50] <robtp> Eruantalon: sorry, youre beyond me
[09:50] <Eruantalon> Ubuntu is beyond me
[09:50] <Eruantalon> dam
[09:51] <pinchmesh> Eruantalon, did you set the drive as bootable in the bios (the bios settings IN the os when you installed)
[09:51] <sinisterguy> robtp: nope, its normal
[09:51] <mwe> Shin_Gouki: all I know at least a year ago booting from a usb hdd was supposed to be a pain. I don't have personal experience installing to usb hdds
[09:51] <robtp> try vlc... thats my best guess sorry
[09:52] <Eruantalon> pinchmesh: No idea. I am running Edgy. Didnt not do it
[09:52] <Ult_Ubuntu> hi everyone!
[09:52] <phoenixfire425> hello all. i need help connecting my new install of ubuntu to the internet. i can see my network and everything just fine but i cannot see the internet? any idea?
[09:52] <Umbrellajack> Hi
[09:52] <pinchmesh> ah, ok
[09:52] <Shin_Gouki> mwe , it still is i found a 12 step tutorial on the forums 12 steps where .... i m stuck at every step :/
[09:52] <pinchmesh> i'm on suse right now
[09:52] <Eruantalon> pinchmesh: Do you mean like in partition editor_
[09:52] <viller> what's the name of the app you can change gdm themes with?
[09:52] <ctothej> Why am I getting the message: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)?
[09:52] <daedra> phoenixfire425: try typing sudo dhclient
[09:52] <robtp> phoenixfire425: try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart after you try what daedra suggested
[09:52] <pinchmesh> downloading the 2.6.19 version
[09:52] <phr34ck> people, my processor is going crazy ... I ran the top command and there is nothing there.
[09:52] <Shin_Gouki> mwe its involded with a lot manual filelist editing and such..
[09:52] <linux1> hiya ppl im trying to install on a raid array and i get dmraid runninf but i dont have anything in /dev/mapper  , not even control i dont even have a mapper directory
[09:52] <seanj> that's scary
[09:53] <phr34ck> It says that the top command is taking 97% of the CPU .....
[09:53] <phr34ck> that's od.d
[09:53] <mwe> Shin_Gouki: oh
[09:53] <phr34ck> odd.*
[09:53] <mwe> phr34ck: indeed ;)
[09:53] <phoenixfire425> thank you very much i will go try that.
[09:53] <Shin_Gouki> mwe here thats it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811
[09:53] <Umbrellajack> Hi, I just installed edgy and I'm having trouble connecting wirelessly to my network. The network card (which is a linksys USB) works with my neighbors connections but not mine
[09:53] <Riyonuk> Does anyone know of a WAMP or LAMP in this case that has a little icon, like wampserver.com in your taskbar?
[09:53] <svish> a tool on my panel is saying that my cpu is running at 600 MHz.... can I adjust that somehow?
[09:53] <linux1> could i be missing the device mapper module
[09:54] <Umbrellajack> Anybody have any experience with networking issues?
[09:54] <arrenlex> !anyone | Umbrellajack
[09:54] <ubotu> Umbrellajack: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:54] <robtp> phr34ck: it might take that much for a brief moment
[09:54] <robtp> phr34ck: top, that is
[09:54] <Atlas95> hello
[09:54] <arrenlex> !hi
[09:54] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:55] <Umbrellajack> arrenlax, I already did, nobody responded
[09:55] <arrenlex> Umbrellajack: What was your question?
[09:55] <Atlas95> sommeone have a pctv hybrid pro stick (pctv 330e) ? please
[09:55] <pinchmesh> Umbrellajack, what's the actual problem??
[09:55] <mwe> Shin_Gouki: well did you aquire the alternate install cd?
[09:55] <xtknight> how do I control the fan speed of my CPU?
[09:55] <floppyears> hi, I'm using a window manager
[09:55] <Shin_Gouki> mwe , i guess "USB" harddisk user are not seen as a general user so ... the developement in this deirection is slow or rather 0
[09:55] <arrenlex> floppyears: So am I! :D
[09:55] <floppyears> what's the name of the program that gets called when you hit alt+f2 ?
[09:55] <floppyears> arrenlex: nice :)
[09:55] <mwe> xtknight: acpi in most cases. not all hw is supported though
[09:55] <viller> what's the name of the app you can change gdm themes with?
[09:55] <Shin_Gouki> mwe not not yet what advantages i would have then with thaT?
[09:55] <Umbrellajack> arrenlax, I can connect to other wireless networks but not my own. It says packets are flowing back and forth but I can't get on the internet
[09:56] <daedra> floppyears: I'm not :D
[09:56] <pinchmesh> some motherboards will NOT boot to a usb drive... the motherboard bios doesn't allow it
[09:56] <Fobia> Need help please, with Ubuntu CD
[09:56] <daedra> exludes?
[09:56] <mwe> Shin_Gouki: the guide tells you to use that one as I understand it. it says not the live cd
[09:56] <daedra> ahem.
[09:56] <Flannel> !ask | Fobia
[09:56] <ubotu> Fobia: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:56] <Fobia> ;)
[09:56] <Fobia> oki doki
[09:56] <pinchmesh> Umbrellajack, what's the #'s to the gateway??
[09:56] <Umbrellajack> arrenlax, I can connect, with internet access, to my neighbor's network
[09:56] <Umbrellajack> but not my own
[09:56] <daedra> ahhh! is phobia spelt fobia in america?!
[09:57] <arrenlex> Umbrellajack: I don't have experience with wireless networking, sorry.
[09:57] <Shin_Gouki> mwe the guide is too complex too many points of error :/ i think i cant configure GRUB by hand...
[09:57] <pinchmesh> "route add default  <the numbers>"
[09:57] <daedra> oh lol
[09:57] <tritium> daedra: no
[09:57] <arrenlex> daedra: No! At least not yet.
[09:57] <jonah1980> hey guys, i'm freaking out here! i tried elive out and it's so awesome. i've been an ubuntu user for a while, is it safe to also put elive on my system?
[09:57] <Umbrellajack> 69.118.100.1
[09:57] <daedra> sulfur sticks
[09:57] <Fobia> I get Ubuntu.iso from ubuntu website. I burn it on a CD, the PC boot from it. but when I give the install command, he load some bar or something, then it gets stocked. blocked. it crushes and it remain a black screen. What can I do ?
[09:57] <floppyears> anbody who knows of the name of the program that is xrun ?
[09:57] <daedra> *sulphur ;)
[09:57] <kitche> jonah1980: just install enlightenment you won't get e17 though
[09:57] <Flannel> Fobia: check the md5 of the iso, burn at 4x
[09:57] <xtknight> mwe: thanks, do you have any idea how to adjust intel speedstep?
[09:57] <Eruantalon> How do I recover from a windows install. I would like to install grub as my bootloader. I am writing from edgy livecd!
[09:58] <pinchmesh> try "route add default 69.118.100.1"
[09:58] <mwe> Shin_Gouki: then you probably have to give up or get someone to do it for you
[09:58] <viller> what's the name of the app you can change gdm themes with?
[09:58] <madman_> how can i know what takes so much memory, in TOP i get 2gb used and i have 2gb of memory
[09:58] <Fobia> I did burn it
[09:58] <paul_> huy guys
[09:58] <xtknight> madman_: memory used is different than memory allocated
[09:58] <svish> Yeah I wonder about that too, how can I adjust my intel cpu speed? it is running on 600 MHz and I dont want that right now...!!
[09:58] <arrenlex> madman_: cat /proc/meminfo
[09:58] <pinchmesh> the number needs to be the number to your gateway
[09:58] <jonah1980> kitche, problem is i tried enlightenment and the dock doesn't work and things don't quite behave right, in elive it's all cool... also wouldn't i have to have two home folders and two desktops and stuff, seems confusing
[09:59] <paul_> can anyone help me and tell me why my computer only will install linux with a install image and not a live CD?
[09:59] <madman_> hmm
[09:59] <mwe> svip: it clocks up if the cpu gets loaded
[09:59] <arrenlex> madman_: Nevermind, that's not as useful as I thought it was.
[09:59] <Fobia> Flannel I did burn it at 4x. I used all the instructions to burn it from a website that someone from this channel gived to me few weeks ago. But the fact is that my PC can boot from it, but it crashes at some moment. May I tell you my PC configuration so maybe the PC components arent good or something... ?
[09:59] <madman_> okay
[09:59] <svish> and also, is it possible to lock the panel and taskbar in place?
[09:59] <paul_> can anyone help me and tell me why my computer only will install linux with a install image and not a live CD?
[09:59] <madman_> thanks
[09:59] <pinchmesh> your modem might have a number assigned, or if you have a gateway box, use that number
[09:59] <paul_> can anyone help me and tell me why my computer only will install linux with a install image and not a live CD?
[09:59] <ctothej> Trying to update apt-get and I get this: "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" Any suggestions?
[09:59] <paul_> can anyone help me and tell me why my computer only will install linux with a install image and not a live CD?
[09:59] <aG-Derek[staff] > Can you repeat that please?
[09:59] <paul_> can anyone help me and tell me why my computer only will install linux with a install image and not a live CD?
[09:59] <LameBMX> Fobia, where does it crash
[09:59] <mwe> xtknight: you want to run the CPU at a fixed clock speed
[09:59] <aG-Derek[staff] > I was disconected.
[09:59] <xtknight> well i believe my intel cpu throttles the clock. i dont have ASUS AI NOS/etc enabled to dynamically speed up the cpu, i just want it running full at all times
[09:59] <mwe> xtknight: ?
[09:59] <xtknight> mwe: yeah
[09:59] <Flannel> !repeat | paul_
[09:59] <ubotu> paul_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:00] <xtknight> mwe: sort of, but id like control over fan speed also
[10:00] <xtknight> mwe: my cpu reached 97C today :P
[10:00] <Flannel> Fobia: it's probably not hardware related.  Might have to do with bad drivers for your video card.  Do you want to isntall linux? or try out the liveCD?  if it's the former grab the Alternate ISO, and burn an alternate CD.  That should install no problem
[10:00] <mwe> xtknight: why though? it clocks if there is demand for cpu power
[10:00] <kitche> jonah1980: your probably thinking of e17 the one in the ubuntu repos is e16 but if you install elive it's a total different distro
[10:00] <paul_> can anyone help me and tell me why my computer only will install linux with a install image and not a live CD?\m
[10:00] <mwe> xtknight: oh
[10:00] <Fobia> LameBMX it crushes after i press Enter at "Start & Install". It appears a loading bar, like Xp has. then after the bar is completed, it cruses
[10:00] <Fobia> crushes*
[10:00] <DarkLegacy> Hey guys quick question
[10:00] <mwe> xtknight: that doesn't sound healthy ;)
[10:00] <DarkLegacy> In display, it says that my display is 51 hz
[10:00] <DarkLegacy> But my monitor supports 75 hz
[10:00] <paul_> lol
[10:00] <tritium> paul_: the edgy live cd is also the install cd
[10:00] <ctothej> paul_: i couldnt use a live cd either. i think because of my video card.
[10:00] <adinsx> hello do you think someone could help me install the xorg-driver-fglrx driver?
[10:00] <DarkLegacy> How can I switch it from 51hz to 75 hz?
[10:00] <paul_> this is a busy server
[10:00] <xtknight> mwe: fan speed is a higher priority than running at full speed.. i guess i dont really care about the latter that much, id just like to know just for the sake of knowing
[10:01] <daedra> paul_: I swear, many, many linux pros are staring blankly at their screen until a problem they can solve appears :)
[10:01] <Shin_Gouki> mwe why is this prcess so complicated? mount points, GRUB configuration... the GUI support is lwo to zero , WHY?
[10:01] <ctothej> i used the alternate install cd
[10:01] <arrenlex> !someone | adinsx
[10:01] <Fobia> Flannel my video card is integrated and has 16 MB
[10:01] <ubotu> adinsx: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:01] <jonah1980> kitche, it was e17 i tried out cos that's the flashy looking one
[10:01] <LameBMX> Fobia,  okay hit F6 ... and backspace over quiet and splash options
[10:01] <Eruantalon> adinsx: All i can say is give up now!
[10:01] <LameBMX> and see where it errors after that
[10:01] <Eruantalon> Personally i Think they are to buggy to use
[10:01] <paul_> i know, i have broken the kernel 20 times, lol, :D
[10:01] <willgt09> hey anyone willing to PM me - i have a quick question?
[10:01] <arrenlex> !pm | willgt09
[10:01] <kitche> jonah1980: well e16 and e17 are both flashy just that e17 looks more like a desktop environment then e16 does
[10:01] <ubotu> willgt09: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[10:01] <pinchmesh> Dark, you set that in the "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" file
[10:01] <xtknight> willgt09: just ask out in the open if its not anything private
[10:01] <DarkLegacy> Thanks pinch
[10:01] <pinchmesh> sec, i'll check the path
[10:01] <Swiftfeet8> Is anyone available to help with a Java issue in Ubuntu/Linux in general?
[10:01] <paul_> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[10:01] <LameBMX> Fobia,  sorry i just read ur message ... sounds like its crashing at X
[10:01] <adinsx> Eruantalon: the default drivers don't really offer good desktop preformance, I'm using "ati" included with the installation
[10:02] <paul_> this server is bbbbbbbbbbbbbuuuuuuuuuuusssssssssssyyyyyyyyyy
[10:02] <Flannel> Fobia: for something as seldom done as installation, burning an alternate CD is a lot easier and simpler than trying to debug the Desktop CD with your hardware.
[10:02] <adinsx> are there any better alternatives?
[10:02] <xtknight> Swiftfeet8: sure, whats your question?
[10:02] <willgt09> oh, ok - i'm having a little trouble installing ubuntu on my dell inspiron 8600
[10:02] <paul_> i give up
[10:02] <tritium> paul_: please stop
[10:02] <pinchmesh> yep, that's it
[10:02] <gili> who uses netowrk-manager?
[10:02] <Eruantalon> adinsx: Nvidia...
[10:02] <Flannel> paul_: what do you mean by linux-image?
[10:02] <daedra> paul_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:02] <Fobia> Flannel I dont understand
[10:02] <adinsx> I am on a laptop
[10:02] <paul_> *leaves the server*
[10:02] <adinsx> x31 thinkpad
[10:02] <Eruantalon> adinsx: What ati card is it?
[10:02] <mwe> xtknight: for ibm-acpi you echo <number> > /proc/acpi/ibm/fan
[10:02] <adinsx> ati mobility radeon 9000
[10:02] <arrenlex> adinsx: What problems are you having?
[10:02] <Swiftfeet8> I am trying to use java version 1.4.0, but Ubuntu comes with 1.4.2
[10:02] <LameBMX> on *:TEXT:someone:#ubunt*:.msg $chan !someone
[10:02] <mwe> xtknight: it's somewhat involved
[10:02] <LameBMX> :))
[10:02] <jonah1980> kitche, i tried e17 and the engage dock wouldn't work... and stuff was allover the place cos i've got ubuntu underneath but desktop icons and stuff weren't there. when i tried project looking glass it knew where my ubuntu gnome stuff was like desktop etc for me
[10:02] <gili> who uses netowrk-manager applet?
[10:02] <willgt09> whenever i select "resize IDE1...: on step 5 of 6, the installer just sits there
[10:02] <mwe> xtknight: unfortunately
[10:02] <nrbelex> Hi, pinchmesh. Could you repeat that?
[10:03] <pinchmesh> repaet what?
[10:03] <Swiftfeet8> I am not having luck installing the older version of java...but 5.0 installs great
[10:03] <Eruantalon> adinsx: I have a 9100 radeon. When i finally get it working it chrases constantly
[10:03] <LameBMX> on *:TEXT:someone*:#ubunt*:.msg $chan !someone
[10:03] <nrbelex> I was disconnected, sorry.
[10:03] <adinsx> well i followed the instructions in the guides, i didn't get any error messages while installing the packages, but when i restart x it dosnt work
[10:03] <pinchmesh> repeat what??
[10:03] <xtknight> mwe: thanks i found some info in /proc/acpi/processor/*.... e.g. ./CPU0/throttling
[10:03] <Flannel> Fobia: there's two CDs, the Desktop CD which you have (GUI liveCD installer), and the Alternate CD (textmode installer, quick, painless, rock hard, not 'pretty')
[10:03] <LameBMX> eh missed one ... man i need to get mirc running
[10:03] <nrbelex> something about the gateway for my wireless network.
[10:03] <daedra> gili: not me - to my ralink card network-manager is eeeevil
[10:03] <arrenlex> !doesn't work| adinsx
[10:03] <ubotu> adinsx: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[10:03] <madman_> is there some basic file sharing guide to share files between two linux box
[10:03] <mwe> xtknight: you would change the governor to get a fixed clock
[10:03] <Gunnar> Q: Anyone gotten the ALC's working with squid?
[10:03] <gili> daedra: what do you use instead?
[10:03] <Swiftfeet8> xtknight, I am trying to install an older version of java but not having luck
[10:03] <xtknight> mwe: the governor? lol
[10:03] <adinsx> it... dosn't load, it has a problem with the xorg.conf file and i have to revert back to my old one
[10:03] <willgt09> anyone experience this>
[10:03] <pinchmesh> darned, almost a thousand people in this channel
[10:03] <willgt09> ?
[10:03] <Fobia> Flannel at ubuntu.com there was only the Desktop / server / others
[10:03] <Eruantalon> have you tried modprobe fglrx?
[10:04] <daedra> gili: scripts
[10:04] <arrenlex> adinsx: What error does it give, exactly?
[10:04] <gili> right
[10:04] <xtknight> Swiftfeet8: like java 1.4x?
[10:04] <harrisony1> madman_, there is some thing called xmb i think
[10:04] <Flannel> Fobia: there's an alternate one.  It's not the server, and not the Desktop.  I promise you it's there ;)
[10:04] <harrisony1> !filesharing
[10:04] <Eruantalon> How do I recover from a windows install. I would like to install grub as my bootloader. I am writing from edgy livecd! If I follow the guides from the wiki grub won't install because it says it can't find any devices!?
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filesharing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <Swiftfeet8> xtknight, yes 1.4.0 to be exact
[10:04] <Fobia> ok
[10:04] <Fobia> be back
[10:04] <daedra> then again I don't boot into desktop ;)
[10:04] <arrenlex> !grub | Eruantalon
[10:04] <ubotu> Eruantalon: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:04] <DarkLegacy> Ok there we go
[10:04] <nrbelex> Pinchmesh: I am able to connect to other wireless networks but not my own even though there's packet flow both ways
[10:04] <adinsx> ill try to save the exact error message to a file or something
[10:04] <DarkLegacy> Thanks
[10:04] <tritium> harrisony1: please query ubotu in private
[10:04] <xtknight> !java
[10:04] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:04] <adinsx> and maybe come back later, thanks for the help
[10:04] <mwe> xtknight: right ;)
[10:05] <gili> ok so.... who uses netowrk-manager applet? is this applet problematic/////!!!
[10:05] <gili> ?
[10:05] <Eruantalon> arrenlex: Been there done that
[10:05] <xtknight> mwe: ive heard of that before...i believe there were presets much like Windows' power settings under screensaver?
[10:05] <daedra> gili: it all depends on your NIC
[10:05] <arrenlex> Eruantalon: Fine. Can you tell me where you've gotten to right now?
[10:05] <Eruantalon> Well there are like 10 different way of doint it
[10:05] <paul_> my dad wants to know how to install a DVD veiwer on linux
[10:06] <tritium> !dvd > paul
[10:06] <scott> using ubuntu?
[10:06] <daedra> paul_: try mplayer or vlc
[10:06] <mwe> xtknight: cd  /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ then ls
[10:06] <xtknight> Swiftfeet8: umm, jdk or jre?
[10:06] <paul_> he's tried that
[10:06] <Swiftfeet8> xtknight, jre
[10:06] <xtknight> !restrictedformats
[10:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:06] <mwe> xtknight: cat scaling_governor
[10:06] <gili> daedra: yes....i am figuring this out now....i use it on both my realtek ethernet card and my atheros wifi
[10:06] <phr34ck> hey is there a book about Linux and includes ubuntu as well?
[10:06] <paul_> k
[10:06] <gili> the latter seems to give me some issues
[10:06] <Eruantalon> arrenlex: It seems as if the right one to use would be Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader
[10:06] <Eruantalon> but
[10:06] <Swiftfeet8> xtknight, I just need the runtime for a browser based GUI that doesn't like newer versions of java
[10:06] <Flannel> phr34ck: there are ubuntu books
[10:07] <daedra> gili: atheros is well supported under the madwifi drivers methinks
[10:07] <computermc> should I use Parallels or Vmware? Which one is the best?
[10:07] <gili> oh yes
[10:07] <phr34ck> Flannel, guide my way.
[10:07] <gili> the netowrk-manager applet itself seems to be cutting out every so often.....
[10:07] <kitche> phr34ck: not really there is the ubuntu book there isn't really one single linux book about linux since linux is not really an OS per say
[10:07] <mwe> xtknight: then echo userspace > scaling_governor or performance if you want the highest clock
[10:07] <xtknight> mwe: i dont have that file but i have /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0...no cpufreq directory, heres the contents of cpu0: cache  thermal_throttle  topology
[10:08] <pinchmesh> the best way to make a dvd is with growisofs
[10:08] <mwe> xtknight: odd
[10:08] <xtknight> mwe: i have a core 2 duo e6300
[10:08] <pinchmesh> "man growisofs"
[10:08] <arrenlex> Eruantalon: ...but?
[10:08] <Swiftfeet8> xtknight, I might have found something brb
[10:08] <phr34ck> so now Linux is not an OS ?
[10:08] <scott> Try http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Main_Page for DVD caps on ubuntu
[10:08] <arrenlex> phr34ck: Linux was never an OS. Linux is a kernel. Ubuntu is an OS.
[10:08] <xtknight> linux is a unix clone
[10:08] <Flannel> phr34ck: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Official_Ubuntu_Book  there are others, of course
[10:08] <Umbrellajack`> So let me re-ask my question... I am having trouble with a wireless network. I can connect to my neighbors routers and the internet but not through my own router. I see packet flow when I use my SSID but can't load any webpages.
[10:08] <phr34ck> Flannel, thanks.
[10:08] <Eruantalon> arrenlex: This is really weird it seems to be working now... Maybe it was because of something else i did while doing one of the other guides
[10:08] <pinchmesh> actually, unix is a bsd clone
[10:08] <phr34ck> for me, an OS is the kernel.
[10:08] <pinchmesh> (hides)
[10:08] <phr34ck> everything else are just addons.
[10:09] <Alex> phr34ck: Your definition of an operating system is incorrect, then. ;)
[10:09] <mwe> xtknight: oh
[10:09] <kitche> pinchmesh: lol unix was out before BSD
[10:09] <xtknight> mwe: `locate scaling` produced no pertintent results
[10:09] <arrenlex> phr34ck: I'd love to see you try to run the Linux kernel as an operating system. xPP
[10:09] <phr34ck> All you need is a kernel and a shell to speak with the kernel, and voila, you have an Os.
[10:09] <Flannel> phr34ck: that's useful for learning abut how to do stuff with ubuntu, if you want a book about linux in general, down to the nitty gritty, there are linux books out there (there's also a good deal of stuff online)
[10:09] <xtknight> mwe: i am on a desktop also not a laptop
[10:09] <mwe> xtknight: maybe it not cpu0 then. not sure
[10:09] <arrenlex> Eruantalon: Er... have fun?
[10:09] <pinchmesh> you  think so? unix sued bsd; saying that the code belonged to them
[10:09] <Eruantalon> Could it be that it was necessary  that my root parttion was marked boot?
[10:09] <mwe> xtknight: try sudo find /sys/devices/system/cpu/|grep scaling_gov maybe
[10:09] <phr34ck> The problem with the Online stuff is that there is no consistency, they just talk about stuff here and there.
[10:10] <_tristan> phr34ck, you cant do much with a shell if you dont have GNU libc
[10:10] <phr34ck> It's not helpful for newbies, like myself.
[10:10] <pinchmesh> cept, bsd was the dovelopment form from berkley
[10:10] <pinchmesh> unix ended up "donating" the code to bsd
[10:10] <Umbrellajack`> pinchmesh, do you remember what you were telling me about a gatewat switch? I got disconnected.
[10:10] <xtknight> mwe: hmm nothing, interesting.  maybe im missing a kernel option
[10:10] <mwe> xtknight: did you build your own kernel?
[10:10] <xtknight> mwe: yeah, 2.6.19.1
[10:10] <phr34ck> an OS, by definition, is nothing but a layer between you and the hardware.
[10:10] <Umbrellajack`> *gateway
[10:10] <mwe> xtknight: ah
[10:11] <Gunnar> Q: Anyone gotten the ALC's working with squid?
[10:11] <Eruantalon> arrenlex: Wouldn't it make more sense to have the livecd related guides at the top. I am guessing most people have those rather than the alternate?
[10:11] <pinchmesh> try "route add default 69.118.100.1"
[10:11] <xtknight> mwe: i copied the stock edgy config and enabled support for my jmicron controller, thats about it
[10:11] <computermc> should I use Parallels or Vmware? Which one is the best?
[10:11] <mwe> xtknight: you need to make sure CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP_CENTRINO=y in .config
[10:11] <arrenlex> Eruantalon: I didn't write it.
[10:11] <tritium> !best > computermc
[10:11] <_tristan> phr34ck, you cant interface with your hardware only using a kernel though
[10:11] <arrenlex> Eruantalon: Hell, I haven't even read it. :)
[10:11] <mwe> xtknight: I think. not sure about core duo
[10:11] <Flannel> computermc: they're completely different.  the former effectively dualboots, the latter runs one OS inside another
[10:12] <xtknight> mwe: CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP_CENTRINO=m, CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP_CENTRINO_ACPI=y, # CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP_LIB is not set
[10:12] <daedra> lollilops
[10:12] <arrenlex> Eruantalon: You're right, it would make a lot more sense.
[10:12] <phr34ck> A kernel and a shell is all you need.
[10:12] <mwe> xtknight: modprobe it then
[10:12] <svish> is there a default shortcut for changing workspace? or do I have to click the tiny icon down to the right everytime?
[10:12] <Umbrellajack`> pinchmesh, I get bash root command not found
[10:12] <nn531> what is the deal with the wireless in ubuntu? i cant get it to work
[10:12] <Eruantalon> arrenlex: Hmm well that explains some. It seems very messy. I will rectify this now
[10:12] <_tristan> phr34ck, a shell doesnt come with the kernel
[10:12] <arrenlex> phr34ck: Without libraries?
[10:12] <seanj> a kernel and a shell isn't all I need :P
[10:12] <_tristan> a shell is a whole lot of GNU
[10:12] <mwe> xtknight: I have it builtin so I'm not sure of the module name
[10:12] <_tristan> and libraries
[10:12] <_tristan> charsets
[10:12] <pinchmesh> you logged in as root?
[10:12] <imbecile> someone point me to a "working" setup for network manager? i cant get eth1 setup
[10:12] <seanj> you can compile the shell to be static!
[10:12] <pinchmesh> type "id" to see
[10:12] <phr34ck> true, I was talking about what you need to talk with your hardware.
[10:12] <daedra> GNU/Linux is all I need :D
[10:13] <xtknight> mwe: odd.... FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino (/lib/modules/2.6.19.1/kernel/arch/x86_64/kernel/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko): No such device
[10:13] <ctothej> Trying to install software and all i get is this message: "This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'azureus' the conflicting software must be removed before. Switch to the advanced mode to resolve this conflict." HELP please.
[10:13] <_tristan> seanj, sure, against GNU libraries
[10:13] <mwe> xtknight: yeah
[10:13] <_tristan> staticly
[10:13] <xtknight> mwe: but with other module names it just flat out saysmodule not found
[10:13] <xtknight> mwe: this one it looks like something is missing
[10:13] <mwe> xtknight: core duo is not centrino
[10:13] <phr34ck> you need something that translates your code to the kernel, so the kernel can translate that so your hardware understands it.
[10:13] <seanj> _tristan: this is what I get for hopping halfway into a conversation
[10:13] <seanj> I'm just babbling, sorry
[10:13] <_tristan> heh :)
[10:13] <_tristan> phr34ck, thats not entirely true either
[10:13] <xtknight> mwe: i didnt even know centrino was a cpu
[10:13] <_tristan> phr34ck, userspace applications can access the hardware directly
[10:14] <phr34ck> _tristan, how so?
[10:14] <mwe> xtknight: you're missing something though
[10:14] <_tristan> phr34ck, user space applications are byte code and assembly instructions
[10:14] <mwe> xtknight: look at the options for the CPU and power in the kernel config
[10:14] <_tristan> they can access hardware registers and such
[10:14] <salty-horse> how can I disable bug-buddy in a bug-buddy bound app? I want to get a real core dump
[10:14] <daedra> which is then translated into machine code
[10:14] <pinchmesh> hardware access can be compiled into the kernel or loaded as a module
[10:14] <nn531> can anyone help me set up my wireless? ubuntu recognizes my card and I could get it to automatically connect before but now it doesnt work for some reason
[10:14] <phr34ck> user space is a higher layer.
[10:14] <pinchmesh> sometimes, you actually need both, but i dunno why that is
[10:15] <_tristan> phr34ck, yes, you need libc to make calls to the kernel from userspace
[10:15] <nny> hey kids (and all of the above) anyone wanna rap about ext3 and non ciritcal data? got a server here that is 90% surveillence video, constantly getting overwirtten, and having to sit through fscks on that data is painful
[10:15] <_tristan> phr34ck, calls like read/write/ioctl
[10:15] <Umbrellajack`> pinchmesh, how do you log in as root through the terminal?
[10:15] <pinchmesh> type "su root"
[10:15] <tritium> pinchmesh: no, sudo -i
[10:15] <nny> or better yet, is there a way i can mark the filesystem as ok and just let it boot for now?
[10:15] <pinchmesh> then, the password
[10:15] <_tristan> phr34ck, by convention its better to make a kernel module interface to a hardware device, for resource control & security issues
[10:16] <tritium> please don't advise enabling the root account
[10:16] <phr34ck> I know, that's why I love Linux.
[10:16] <seanj> i had to do that to configure samba :/
[10:16] <xtknight> mwe: X86_SPEEDSTEP_CENTRINO : ... This means Intel Pentium M (Centrino) CPUs
[10:16] <xtknight> or 64bit enabled Intel Xeons. ... hmm.  there's that and theres amd powernow, im pretty sure my core 2 duo uses the speedstep one
[10:16] <mwe> xtknight: power management->cpu frequency scaling
[10:16] <_tristan> phr34ck, but the kernel is essentially "only the scheduler" and alot of modules to access hardware
[10:16] <pinchmesh> nny, as a "single user", run "fsck -f -y"
[10:16] <xtknight> mwe: i also have all the governors enabled
[10:16] <pinchmesh> it fixes messed up file systems
[10:16] <mwe> xtknight: you still need to load the right kernel module
[10:16] <nny> pinchmesh, running it.. what is -f -y?
[10:17] <_tristan> phr34ck, sorry, theres memory management too ofcourse
[10:17] <Umbrellajack`> pinchmesh, I get "SIOCADDRT: no such device"
[10:17] <seanj> fix, yes. lol
[10:17] <pinchmesh> "man fsck"
[10:17] <xtknight> mwe: oh, was the speedstep module telling me i didnt have a supported device?
[10:17] <phr34ck> _tristan, those are the jobs of the kernel .. purly.
[10:17] <nny> pinchmesh kk fine, stuck at single user.. question i have is, this data is not critical, can i just tell it to drop the whole fsck and boot?
[10:17] <Umbrellajack`> pinchmesh, no manual entry for fsk
[10:17] <pinchmesh> if you leave off the -y, it can take a couple hours to run (hehe)
[10:17] <mwe> xtknight: I believe so
[10:17] <pinchmesh> not fsk, "fsck"
[10:18] <godtvisken> When I add the two lines, clear Mod2 and add Mod2 = Mode_switch to my Xmodmap file, the Num lock key no longer functions. What is happening?
[10:18] <seanj> i think nny just wants to disable boot-up filesystem checks
[10:18] <sadhomma> hi
[10:18] <mwe> xtknight: but I don't think core 2 duo likes the centrino driver
[10:18] <seanj> Not sure how that's done
[10:18] <_tristan> phr34ck, yes those are the jobs of the kernel, just a few of the many many jobs that need doing to operate your system
[10:18] <seanj> hi sadhomma :)
[10:18] <Umbrellajack`> pinchmesh, this is a fresh install
[10:18] <nny> seanj, yeah more or less.. like i said, 90% of the r/w data is non ciritcal
[10:18] <tengil> anyone compile miracl for fish on an amd64?
[10:18] <seanj> nny: I know the feeling... just not sure how to disable them
[10:18] <phr34ck> yeah, what are we discussing here ;p ?
[10:18] <pinchmesh> see if you can ping the gateway
[10:18] <sadhomma> hi seanj
[10:18] <xtknight> mwe: odd, because i have seen linux spit out messages like this.  something must be loaded : [160047.131052]  CPU1: Temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 8608)
[10:18] <Umbrellajack`> pinchmesh, or am I mixing your advice to someone else and me?
[10:19] <pinchmesh> "ping <numbers>"
[10:19] <pinchmesh> i dunno
[10:19] <mnoir> nny: just use tune2fs to set a long period tween checks.  not advisable but available
[10:19] <jonah1980> does anyone in here use enlightenment desktop e17? i don't get why my engage won't work properly
[10:19] <xtknight> mwe: or maybe that is just fatal temperature detection and not actually clock scaling based on cpu usage
[10:19] <mwe> xtknight: yeah that's a warning I don't think it's directly related
[10:19] <phr34ck> hey I have JDK 1.4 installed and I'm currently downloading JDK 1.5 "using apt-get" ... will it replace 1.4 or no ?
[10:19] <_tristan> phr34ck, we were talking about: <phr34ck> for me, an OS is the kernel. <phr34ck> everything else are just addons.
[10:19] <_tristan> heh
[10:20] <nny> mnoir, ok i understanf the not advisable, but this system is a videos urv. system and 310 out of the 320 gigs is non critcal data that could all go to crap and not hurt anyones feelings
[10:20] <kitche> jonah1980: probably because e17 is alpha software
[10:20] <fulper> When i start Azureus in Ubuntu 6.10 it just closes again after the loading splash, if someone can help me please /q me
[10:20] <_tristan> phr34ck, so you understand I had to jump to the defense of all the rest of the free software in the GNU/Linux system :)
[10:20] <mwe> xtknight: you should have the files in /sys if the right driver is loaded I believe
[10:20] <nny> mnoir, problem now is i am forced to sit throught the fsck, the original run stopped at 58% and dropped to single user with an error, but didnt say what error
[10:20] <pinchmesh> to get the settings on the cpu, type "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[10:20] <phr34ck> I did the jump as well, I did the jump as well !!
[10:21] <jonah1980> kitche, so if you install dr16/e16 that's as cool? and engage?
[10:21] <xtknight> mwe: supposedly core 2 duo supports 'enhanced speedstep'. maybe i just need to add device IDs but it would probably be a better idea to wait for the kernel devs to do that and to verify compatibility
[10:21] <Swiftfeet8> xtknight, It doesn't appear that 1.4.0 is installing on my system.  I have followed the directions from Sun.  5.0 installs fine, but I can't get 1.4.0 to.
[10:21] <pinchmesh> nny, you have to run fsck as single user, or it won't work correctly
[10:21] <mwe> xtknight: isn't core 2 duo a P4 cpu?
[10:21] <mnoir> nny: disks are not 101% reliable - that's why we check them :)  like i said - tune2fs can change the fsck behavior or eliminate it
[10:21] <xtknight> Swiftfeet8: what's the error and what method did you use
[10:21] <xtknight> mwe: no, it is based on the new Core architecture (not netburst)
[10:21] <nny> pinchmesh, k.. well i'll wait through this fsck..
[10:21] <xtknight> mwe: it's the one made in israel
[10:22] <pinchmesh> k
[10:22] <mwe> xtknight: oh
[10:22] <Umbrellajack`> Let me try this again --- My wireless card will connect to my neighbors' networks and give me internet but not my own. When I use my own SSID, I get packet flow but no internet
[10:22] <EmxBA> hi
[10:22] <mwe> xtknight: my knowledge on recent cpus is not quite up to date I see
[10:22] <Swiftfeet8> xtknight, I don't get any errors.  I am using the bin file
[10:22] <wilde> hello is there anyone from poland ??
[10:22] <pinchmesh> Umbrellajack`, shhhh!
[10:22] <xtknight> mwe: well this is the first time intel has surpassed amd in performance in years
[10:22] <mnoir> !pl
[10:22] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:22] <arrenlex> !anyone | wilde
[10:22] <ubotu> wilde: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:22] <pinchmesh> just use his
[10:22] <mwe> xtknight: I read that yeah
[10:22] <nny> mnoir, pinchmesh for future refernce, i may seperate the /dev/ partition (where the video is stored) and the root filesystem/ etc. and just do the tune2fs to the /dev partition so if it is disabled, it is at alesser frequency
[10:22] <xtknight> Swiftfeet8: no errors? what happens?
[10:22] <wilde> thx
[10:23] <ephemeros> an operator, please
[10:23] <Umbrellajack`> pinchmesh, sorry, I'm a bit desperate, it's kinda important
[10:23] <pinchmesh> nny, it shouldn't mess up at all
[10:23] <madman_> can i with samba share files with two linux boxes
[10:23] <tengil> i get loads of errors while trying to compile miracl to install fish on my amd64. anyone have any suggestions
[10:23] <borg> where are the theme images for GTK gnome themes kept?
[10:24] <Swiftfeet8> xtknight, everything installs fine but when I go to a site to see what version I am running it says the latest version.  If I remove the latest version and try using just the old version I get nothing.
[10:24] <Mike__> can anyone tell me where to find the wallpaper with a pic of tux setting fire to the windows logo?
[10:24] <madman_> yeah
[10:24] <xtknight> Swiftfeet8: hmm...so you are trying to install the jre 1.4 and firefox plugin, correct?
[10:24] <mnoir> borg: if you do not get a better answer, synaptic or apt-get can be used to find them
[10:24] <pinchmesh> "/opt/gnome/lib64/gtk/themes"
[10:25] <mnoir> pinchmesh: sounds like a better answer :)
[10:25] <phr34ck> !books
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about books - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <phr34ck> I lost the link for the books ...
[10:25] <nny> pinchmesh, mnoir i agree.. but i have seen this 2 or 3 times ont he same installs with different hardware.. i dunno what the reasoning is.. it does record 20 hours of video footage x 6 cameras, so what if it doeshave 1 or 2 erros
[10:25] <mwe> xtknight: on intels site it says it's a centrino
[10:25] <xtknight> !guide
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <borg> there's NOTHING in my /opt folder, so no that's not it
[10:26] <pinchmesh> you have gnome installed??
[10:26] <tritium> borg: /opt is not used for system-installed software
[10:26] <xtknight> mwe: yup, centrino can be either pentium-M, core duo, core 2 duo apparently
[10:26] <nny> pinchmesh, anyway (-v?) to get some kind of status report ont he fsck other than "pass 1: etc."
[10:26] <mnoir> nny: actually, your plan for dividing off dev is not a bad one - what you want is to check your root often and your data as often or not as you think necessary :)
[10:26] <mwe> xtknight: what happened when you tried loading speedstep_centrino module again?
[10:26] <pinchmesh> borg, you have "locate" installed/setup?
[10:26] <borg> no i dont think so
[10:27] <mnoir> !locate
[10:27] <Swiftfeet8> xtknight, yes I am putting a soft link to the plugin in the plugins directory under mozilla
[10:27] <ubotu> locate is a command-line utility, but to keep the cache up-to-date you will have to run: sudo updatedb
[10:27] <xtknight> mwe: FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino (/lib/modules/2.6.19.1/kernel/arch/x86_64/kernel/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko): No such device
[10:27] <imbecile> can someone point me to a "working" setup for network manager? i cant get eth1 setup
[10:27] <xtknight> mwe: nothing else in dmesg
[10:27] <nny> mnoir, i wonder if there is way to do that with LVM (yuck) without reinstalling the whole thing
[10:27] <Swiftfeet8> !jre
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <pinchmesh> type "updatedb" as root, then "locate themes |grep gtk"
[10:27] <Swiftfeet8> !jdk
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <xtknight> !java | Swiftfeet8
[10:27] <ubotu> Swiftfeet8: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:27] <tritium> pinchmesh: /opt should not contain anything installed from an ubuntu package
[10:27] <madman_> can i speak to someone about windows/linux networking :) please
[10:27] <mnoir> nny: ooh - i dunno - maybe
[10:28] <xtknight> Swiftfeet8: sorry i dont have much experience with java, try looking at the above guide.  it mentions blackdown 1.4 java
[10:28] <pinchmesh> i'm on suse at the moment
[10:28] <mwe> xtknight: odd. perhaps you need to load something else first. modprobe is supposed to take care of that, though
[10:28] <Swiftfeet8> xtknight, ok thanks for the help
[10:28] <nny> madman_, whats the question?
[10:28] <HymnToLife> mnoir, why not ask in here ? the more people will read your questions, the more likely you'll get an answer :)
[10:28] <madman_> how do i share files over a network with two linux boxes.
[10:28] <madman_> both are ubuntu
[10:28] <phoenixfire425> ok still having problems.. now i get the errors... after i did sudo dhclient and sudo /stc/init.d/networking restart..... errors say.. SIOCIFADDR: no sucj device,  wlan0: error while getting interface .. : no such dev, BIND socked to interface: no such device, and Failed to Bring Up Wlan0
[10:28] <masura> How can I disable the window animation in gnome
[10:28] <HymnToLife> madman_*
[10:28] <tritium> pinchmesh: universally, /opt should be reserved as a place for sysadmins to install stuff locally only
[10:29] <tritium> system software has no place in /opt
[10:29] <pinchmesh> i was using freebsd, but went back to suse to have additional hardware support, and am downloading ubuntu to get a distro with the 2.6.19 kernel cause it has areca controller support
[10:29] <kitche> tritium: actually /usr/local is used for that /opt is for optional software kde and java really
[10:29] <xtknight> mwe: i found cpufreq* modules: cpufreq_conservative  cpufreq_powersave     cpufreq_userspace   cpufreq_ondemand      cpufreq_stats
[10:29] <pinchmesh> maybe so Trinitrogen
[10:29] <pinchmesh> maybe so tritium
[10:29] <tritium> kitche: yes, better explanation
[10:30] <mwe> xtknight: can you load them?
[10:30] <pinchmesh> the link i posted is from the computer, it's an actual file
[10:30] <mwe> xtknight: with modprobe
[10:30] <pinchmesh> err, directory
[10:31] <xtknight> mwe: all loaded successfuly, but centrino speedstep will still not load after loading all the cpufreq modules
[10:31] <xtknight> mwe: same error, no such device
[10:31] <mwe> xtknight: what did they load as dependencies? lsmod. anyway look in /sys now
[10:32] <xtknight> mwe: freq_table, thats it
[10:32] <pinchmesh> <- has become a kde fan
[10:32] <mnoir> pinchmesh, tritium :  actually http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ has the actual standard definition of what goes in opt...
[10:32] <pinchmesh> faster cpus and more stable code made it so
[10:32] <madman_> how do i share files over a network with two linux boxes.? Thanks!!
[10:33] <mwe> xtknight: look in /sys/devices/system/cpu/* now
[10:33] <xtknight> mwe: hmm locate 'CPU0' is returning nothing now.  maybe my updatedb isnt indexing it
[10:33] <pinchmesh> madman, try ssh
[10:33] <nny> madman_, you can use scp/ssh
[10:33] <mwe> xtknight: locate doesn't work for that
[10:33] <madman_> between two boxes?
[10:34] <mwe> xtknight: the locate database only works for places like /usr/bin and such and is only updated once a day or so
[10:34] <xtknight> mwe: what was i looking for in cpu0?  its the same as last time though, i dont see anything new
[10:34] <pinchmesh> xtknight,  try "dmesg |less"
[10:34] <phoenixfire425> hello all, ok still having problems.. now i get the errors... after i did sudo dhclient and sudo /stc/init.d/networking restart..... errors say.. SIOCIFADDR: no sucj device,  wlan0: error while getting interface .. : no such dev, BIND socked to interface: no such device, and Failed to Bring Up Wlan0
[10:34] <mnoir> madman_: yes provided they are networked...
[10:34] <mwe> xtknight: cat /proc/cpuinfo. what does that say?
[10:34] <madman_> yes
[10:34] <nny> madman_, basically go to PLaces, connect to server, (type ssh) type in other ubuntu box IP address, user name pass and it'll put a shortcut on your desktop to the filesystem on the other box
[10:34] <xtknight> pinchmesh: what would i be looking for in dmesg? nothing new at the end
[10:34] <madman_> i know windows networking a lot but i am new to linux :(
[10:34] <mwe> xtknight: what is the number of the processor? is it 0 even?
[10:35] <nny> madman_, i use that to access my home dir on a box 1000 miles from here
[10:35] <pinchmesh> just browse it, or you can grep it..
[10:35] <pinchmesh> cpu0 and cpu1
[10:35] <xtknight> mwe: wow this is the first time my CPU has actually reported 1863mhz+ (its full speed) in cpuinfo
[10:35] <pinchmesh> or whatever..
[10:35] <xtknight> mwe: two procesors
[10:35] <xtknight> mwe: model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6300  @ 1.86GHz
[10:35] <mwe> xtknight: yeah
[10:35] <phr34ck> eclipse doesn't seem to accept JDK 1.5 ...
[10:35] <phr34ck> what should I do?
[10:35] <xtknight> pinchmesh: [   26.619610]  ACPI: Processor [CPU0]  (supports 2 throttling states)
[10:35] <tritium> mnoir: yeah, it's generally for extra or 3rd party stuff
[10:35] <xtknight> pinchmesh: [   26.619626]  ACPI: Processor [CPU1]  (supports 2 throttling states)
[10:35] <phoenixfire425> hello all, ok still having problems.. now i get the errors... after i did sudo dhclient and sudo /stc/init.d/networking restart..... errors say.. SIOCIFADDR: no sucj device,  wlan0: error while getting interface .. : no such dev, BIND socked to interface: no such device, and Failed to Bring Up Wlan0
[10:35] <mwe> xtknight: what does processor: say?
[10:35] <phr34ck> It's not accepting: import static javax.swing.JOptionPane.*;
[10:36] <mnoir> tritium: i actually found that def a bit vague...
[10:36] <xtknight> mwe: processor       : 0 for first core, processor       : 1 for second core
[10:36] <Mike__> did i miss the reply?  can anyone tell me where to find the wallpaper with a pic of tux setting fire to the windows logo?
[10:36] <mwe> xtknight: type find /sys/devices/system/cpu/|grep governor still nothing?
[10:36] <nny> Mike_ no offense but did you try google images?
[10:36] <mwe> xtknight: because I wonder why it doesn't if the scaling modules loaded
[10:36] <tritium> mnoir: agreed
[10:36] <xtknight> mwe: still nothing
[10:36] <cherva> can someone wisper me what are the diferences between ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu and xubuntu ?
[10:36] <pinchmesh> phoenixfire425, try "ifconfig -a" as root to see what the current settings are
[10:36] <Mike__> I tried.. but did not see anything.. that is why I came here
[10:37] <mwe> xtknight: odd.
[10:37] <nny> Mike_ http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=tux+windows&btnG=Search
[10:37] <xtknight> !pastebin
[10:37] <mnoir> cherva - psssst - go to their web pages and read   ....
[10:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:37] <phoenixfire425> pinchmesh:  they came up to have the DHCP info in it. i can see my network but i cannot ping or connect to anything.
[10:37] <xtknight> mwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/283/
[10:37] <cherva> k
[10:37] <irvken> I'm trying to clear a directory with rm * but I'm getting the error "Arguement List Too Long", I've not seen this before?
[10:38] <pinchmesh> utto
[10:38] <mnoir> irvken: i have - the cure is to use find
[10:38] <nny> Mike_ normally i'd say something about this channel being more for support issues and less where to get wallpaper, but the cause seemed just :D
[10:38] <nny> i am gonna invent bash games to play while fsck runs..
[10:38] <mnoir> irman find to learn how to use -exec
[10:38] <pinchmesh> you can use ifconfig to set the numbers, or add them into /etc/hosts (if linux uses that?.. sec)
[10:39] <madman_> if the other linux box i get connection refused.
[10:39] <ephemeros> European open source guys, please invite yourselves and friends to sign the petition: http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10879 against proprietary codecs for official eu clips
[10:39] <mwe> xtknight: appearently someone says you need to make sure the bios is updated for speedstepping to work on core 2 duo
[10:39] <pinchmesh> yep , you can edit /etc/hosts
[10:39] <BULLE> irvken: find . -name * -exec echo {} \;
[10:39] <mnoir> nny: another idea - divide the data into smaller filesystems and fsck on different schedules
[10:39] <nny> madman_, hmm go to the other box and type ssh 127.0.0.1 in a terminal or do an /etc/init.d/sshd start... n
[10:39] <pinchmesh> use ipv4 though
[10:39] <xtknight> mwe: interesting, though i am using the latest bios for the gigabyte ga-965p-ds3 rev 2.0 (F8).  i will check my bios settings and look for any speedstep/etc options
[10:39] <tblaine> Flannel I found a program to write to the MBR, do I want it to write 0s?
[10:40] <nny> mnoir, yeah that'd be good... eh box shouldn't ever be shut down anywyas
[10:40] <phoenixfire425> pinchmesh:  they came up to have the DHCP info in it. i can see my network but i cannot ping or connect to anything.
[10:40] <NickGarvey> xtknight, I have a mobo pretty close to that
[10:40] <NickGarvey> xtknight, what was your question?
[10:40] <xtknight> NickGarvey: i'm wondering how to control fan speed and/or clock throttling for my core 2 duo
[10:40] <NickGarvey> xtknight, oh my motherboard has that stuff in the bios
[10:40] <pinchmesh> you have dhclient running??
[10:40] <NickGarvey> xtknight, but I ALWAYS got memory erros when I overclocked the smallest amount
[10:41] <xtknight> NickGarvey: gigabyte 965g?
[10:41] <madman_> nny i get the same thing on the box ;s
[10:41] <NickGarvey> so 2.133 ghz for me
[10:41] <mwe> xtknight: what does uname -a say?
[10:41] <fruymen> hi all
[10:41] <siv0x> Can anyone help me.. i've tried everything that i could think of.. Does anyone have CS:S working on linux, with sound, steam working good, etc?
[10:41] <xtknight> mwe: Linux andy-desktop 2.6.19.1 #1 SMP Thu Dec 28 01:08:25 EST 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:42] <pinchmesh> i dunno what it's called in linux though.. it might be handled by something else
[10:42] <mnoir> irvken: i just noticed i garbled my last msg - man find to learn how to use -exec
[10:42] <nny> madman_, kk that makes sense than
[10:42] <NickGarvey> siv0x, I'm sure there are loads of articels on google for that game
[10:42] <NickGarvey> being as popular as it is
[10:42] <phoenixfire425> pinchmesh:  they came up to have the DHCP info in it. i can see my network but i cannot ping or connect to anything.
[10:42] <nny> madman try sudo apt-get install sshd (open-ssh) on it
[10:42] <colinkern> siv0x: Are you using Wine?
[10:42] <siv0x> NickGarvey: yeah i'm running the game with wine, it runs fine, just as good as it would on linux, except i cant figure out how to get sound to work on it. :\
[10:42] <pinchmesh> kinda odd, sec
[10:42] <El_TeKi> Hi people
[10:43] <nny> madman_, we need to install ssh server on it in order for it to allow connections
[10:43] <siv0x> colinkern: yes, cs works fine, but no sound..
[10:43] <El_TeKi> i ve got a problem
[10:43] <pinchmesh> you have a firewall running??
[10:43] <El_TeKi> very extrange
[10:43] <fruymen> I have a iptables configuration I made, it works fine but it doesn't start at boot. Can anyone help me with this?
[10:43] <madman_> k
[10:43] <El_TeKi> plis help me
[10:43] <madman_> sudo apt-get install ssh-server?
[10:43] <El_TeKi> please
[10:43] <nny> madman_, if you want to connect to the other box you have, from the first box, you'll need to do it on both
[10:43] <NickGarvey> !ask | El_TeKi
[10:43] <ubotu> El_TeKi: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:43] <mnoir> El_TeKi: not unless you ask a real question
[10:43] <colinkern> siv0x: Which sound driver are you using in winecfg?
[10:43] <El_TeKi> ok
[10:43] <madman_> so we need two ssh servers on both boxes
[10:44] <pinchmesh> madman_, yep
[10:44] <nny> madman_, yeah too go back and forth
[10:44] <madman_> openssh?
[10:44] <pinchmesh> that's good
[10:44] <nny> madman_, if you are just trying to connect to box B's files and edit them on boxA, than only boxB needs it
[10:44] <phoenixfire425> no firewall no nothign.. my windows client on the same pc works just fine.
[10:44] <nny> yeah
[10:44] <HymnToLife> !openssh-server
[10:44] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 212 kB, installed size 552 kB
[10:44] <siv0x> colinkern: OSS
[10:44] <madman_> i understand
[10:45] <madman_> so i get openssh?
[10:45] <siv0x> colinkern: my problem is (i think) is that i dont have the ALSAs OSS Emulator working correctly
[10:45] <El_TeKi> mi problem is that i have Ubuntu 2.7 kernel and the sound of for example when i play a song it doesnt function(it doesnt hear) but if i connect the mobile phone to the auxiliar it hears
[10:45] <HymnToLife> -server if you want a server
[10:45] <pinchmesh> setting up ssh and using it can be a pain in the butt
[10:45] <colinkern> siv0x: I had a lot of trouble with sound in Wine, myself.  I think I ended up installing JACK and using that driver
[10:45] <nny> pinchmesh, how so?
[10:45] <pinchmesh> it's worth it though
[10:45] <HymnToLife> the client should be aalready there so no need to dio anything if you want to connect to an SSH server - in Ubuntu at least
[10:45] <colinkern> siv0x: Have you tried the other drivers?
[10:46] <mwe> xtknight: can you pastebin the entire output of /proc/cpuinfo?
[10:46] <pinchmesh> that's some of the commands
[10:46] <siv0x> colinkern: yes, but the only driver cs:s will work properly under is OSS.
[10:46] <madman_> well both clients are not communicating
[10:46] <madman_> i get connection refused everywhere.
[10:46] <madman_> both linuxboxes has credentials
[10:46] <siv0x> colinkern: any information you could share with me would help alot.. i have been at this for 3 days. and i really dont wanna go back to windows.
[10:46] <borg> where are the themes stored for gnome and kde? their images are definitely not stored in /home/$username/.themes or /usr/share/themes only their gtkrc files are
[10:46] <nny> pinchmesh, although, out of the box, it installs, adds itself to init, and generates its key... if you do what good admins do and change the port, than yeah some conf editing is required
[10:46] <nny> madman_, did you install ssh-server on one box?
[10:47] <madman_> installing open-ssh
[10:47] <barnetod> hey anyone got time to help me
[10:47] <colinkern> siv0x: I've never used the ALSA OSS emulator, sorry.
[10:47] <HymnToLife> !helpme | barnetod
[10:47] <ubotu> barnetod: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:47] <nny> madman_, once done it should start the server and that conn refuse would go away
[10:47] <siv0x> colinkern: did you ever run any game under wine? or what emulator are you using now?
[10:47] <mnoir> barnetod: not unless you ask a real question
[10:47] <barnetod> im typing it
[10:47] <barnetod> lol
[10:47] <xtknight> mwe: this looks quite helpful: http://rffr.de/acpi
[10:47] <pinchmesh> i just installed suse 10.2, and it's the easiest install i've ever done... betcha ubuntu is the same
[10:47] <imbecile> can someone point me to a "working" setup for network manager? i cant get eth1 setup
[10:47] <xtknight> mwe: yeah i will pastebin that
[10:47] <screemo> hi there
[10:48] <colinkern> siv0x: I was playing Warcraft 3 and Diablo 2 under Wine.  I haven't played any other Windows games on Linux.
[10:48] <barnetod> I am having a problem with ubuntu freezing on start up,  It goes through log in but stays at the tan screen as if it were going to load the OS but won't
[10:48] <phoenixfire425> if anyone can help me with my issue please PM me or whisper
[10:48] <nny> madman_, the reason the connection is refused is cause the service that is supposed to listening on that port (ssh) ist not running/installed/in existence
[10:48] <barnetod> Cause this possibly be a start up program issue or something else I need to look at?
[10:48] <imbecile> can someone help me setup my wireless using network manager?
[10:48] <screemo> can anyone help me with sed ? I need to filter just the version number out of this string: "audit4.12.16nordic3"
[10:48] <xtknight> mwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/287/
[10:49] <nny> barnetod, first thing to do is to turn off quiet mode at boot
[10:49] <screemo> thats 4.12.16
[10:49] <siv0x> colinkern: so how do i install this JACK that you were telling me about? maybe that will work.
[10:49] <nny> barnetod, so at leats you can see what crappens :D
[10:49] <nny> least*
[10:49] <dooglus> imbecile: Only devices that are *not* listed in /etc/network/interfaces or which have
[10:49] <barnetod> how do i do that?
[10:49] <dooglus> been configured "auto" and "dhcp" (with no other options) are managed by NM.
[10:49] <nny> barnetod, looking, it's called quietmode in grub (the boot screen) one sec
[10:49] <christiane> !bot
[10:49] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:49] <colinkern> siv0x: Look on the ubuntu forum HOWTOs for it, I think that's where I found it.  It was months ago, so I don't really remember.
[10:50] <imbecile> dooglus,  I had it going before i reformatted i just cant remember how i set it up
[10:50] <dooglus> imbecile: here's the total of my setup for wireless:  "iface eth0 inet dhcp" and "auto eth0"
[10:50] <Moofius> Why cant I change my screen-resolution?!
[10:50] <xtknight> mwe: i think i need the userspace governor to control performance states but i load it and cpufreq still does not appear in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0
[10:50] <madman_> thanks
[10:50] <mwe> xtknight: try what it suggests though I don't understand why centrino modules complain when it's a centrino cpu ;)
[10:50] <madman_> it worked :)
[10:50] <siv0x> colinkern: k
[10:50] <nny> madman_, yw.. :)
[10:50] <mnoir> !fixres | Moofius
[10:50] <ubotu> Moofius: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:51] <mwe> xtknight: appaerently that dude is using apci_cpufreq instead
[10:51] <madman_> feels cool to learn some new stuff :)
[10:51] <nny> barnetod, looking.. is this a fresh install?
[10:51] <barnetod> nny well it was a month ago
[10:51] <madman_> but ssh is the standard to get files and info from servers in linux?
[10:51] <xtknight> mwe: hmm well i have acpi_cpufreq=m
[10:51] <barnetod> i havent added anything but network manager
[10:51] <barnetod> and xgl stuff
[10:51] <frank_> d
[10:51] <barnetod> well beryl
[10:51] <Sumit> how secure/reliable is unbuntu accessing FAT32 partionions???
[10:51] <barnetod> which may be the problem
[10:51] <nny> (BTW) if anyone wants to chime in with the grub parm to disable quiet mode (quiet=no?) lemme know
[10:51] <barnetod> im trying to see if i can get to Gnome with it de activate
[10:51] <dooglus> screemo: "sed 's/audit4[.] 12[.] 16nordic3/auditnordic3/g'" will remove the version
[10:51] <xtknight> mwe: ahh i see.  FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq (/lib/modules/2.6.19.1/kernel/arch/x86_64/kernel/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko): No such device
[10:51] <mwe> xtknight: try loading it see what happens
[10:51] <mnoir> barnetod: you might want to take a trip to #ubuntu-xgl
[10:51] <mwe> blah
[10:52] <kitche> Sumit: very reliabled sicne fat32 has been around for years
[10:52] <Moofius> And why cant I see anything when I start my computer, it takes like 60 sec before I see the login-screen (some text flickers before, but I dunno what it says)
[10:52] <barnetod> im not sure it is xgl
[10:52] <xtknight> :o
[10:52] <barnetod> i have used it multiple times just no idea
[10:52] <barnetod> ill try asking a few q's
[10:52] <nny> madman_, ssh is a secure shell to your linux box, it can be used to transfer files, admin the box.. i guess telnet on steroids is a good DOS comparison
[10:52] <dooglus> Moofius: the virtual consoles aren't working.  that's common in ubuntu
[10:52] <dooglus> Moofius: you can try using a different 'vga' setting in your boot manager
[10:52] <mnoir> barnetod: 1. i said you 'might' 2. it is the last thing you changed....
[10:52] <nny> !ssh
[10:52] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:52] <Sumit> So it its alrite to store linux files on it??
[10:53] <Moofius> boot manager, console, ok, I am a noob, but what the hell?
[10:53] <kitche> Sumit: yes
[10:53] <barnetod> is there a way to boot the gui in recovery mode?
[10:53] <barnetod> without loading xgl?
[10:53] <Sumit> cheers mate, getting used ubuntu, its kinda kewl
[10:53] <Sumit> Oh!!!!
[10:54] <dooglus> Moofius: in /boot/grub/menu.lst you'll see "vga=..."
[10:54] <Sumit> in windows the alternate menu selection... you say you wanna select a different spelt word in office using the keyboard, doesn't seem to work in openoffice, is there another key for it
[10:54] <Moofius>  / ?
[10:54] <Swiftfeet8> Could someone help me with installing Java jre 1.4.0?
[10:54] <bmhm> n8 @ll
[10:55] <TWD> How can I set up unbuntu server to use DHCP after the install?
[10:55] <dsnyders> Merry New year!
[10:55] <bmhm> dsnyders:  blessed new year!
[10:55] <nny> barnetod, disable X? if you think it is getting to xserver try ctrl, alt and f2 to get to a terminal
[10:55] <Flannel> tblaine: no, you wnt to write the windows bootloader to it
[10:55] <Flannel> tblaine: or, if you're going the grub route, write grub to it, with an associated tiny /boot partition
[10:56] <dsnyders> I am looking for a tool to merge two folders
[10:56] <mwe> xtknight: hmm cpuinfo looks good enough
[10:56] <The_Jack_of_Club> quick question: how do i change my linux hostname?
[10:56] <dooglus> dsnyders: what do you want it to do when the same file exists in both?
[10:56] <mnoir> dsnyders: ??
[10:56] <imbecile> why cant network manager detect any access points? my card is working i am just not getting the dropdown that says the different connections while clicking on the network manager button
[10:56] <phr34ck> Guys, something wrong is going on. The command top is making my processor goes made, and each time I kill it, it comes back.
[10:56] <phr34ck> what am I suppose to do?
[10:56] <Swiftfeet8> The_jack_of_clubs, type "sudo hostname NAME" where NAME is your new hostname
[10:56] <dsnyders> dooglus, one copy in the target directory
[10:56] <dooglus> dsnyders: which copy?
[10:56] <Flannel> !hostname | The_Jack_of_Club, Swiftfeet8
[10:56] <ubotu> The_Jack_of_Club, Swiftfeet8: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly
[10:57] <Sumit> cheers room
[10:57] <Moofius> dooglus: I have found the line with vga in it, it has ## infront
[10:57] <The_Jack_of_Club> thanks
[10:57] <dsnyders> dooglus, wait... Do you mean identical files, or two dissimilar files with the same name
[10:57] <xtknight> mwe: i guess cpufreq just does not support core 2 duo yet..
[10:57] <phr34ck> Guys, something wrong is going on. The command top is making my processor goes made, and each time I kill it, it comes back.
[10:58] <dooglus> dsnyders: it's possible you'll have 2 different files with the same names, right?
[10:58] <madman_> how can i change a user and put him in the root group in console mode
[10:58] <TWD> Is there a utility in ubuntu that will set up my networking for DHCP or whatever?
[10:58] <Moofius> ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
[10:58] <TWD> a way to set up my networking other than editing /etc/networking/interfaces
[10:58] <pinchmesh> phr34ck, get the pid of top, then "kill -9 <pid>"
[10:58] <TWD> cuz that's not working :(
[10:58] <oxygenthief> can anyon tell me how to get a via gaphic card to work
[10:58] <thoreauputic> madman_: you don't put users in the root group
[10:58] <xtknight> mwe: hmmmm this is interesting: http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:WPqb2950MWoJ:forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3602555.html+cpufreq+core+2+duo&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=8
[10:58] <xtknight> mwe: i dont have the enhanced-speedstep module though
[10:58] <madman_> i am soryr
[10:58] <pinchmesh> it's unconditional 1st degree murder
[10:59] <dooglus> Moofius: remove the # and the e.g., so the line starts with 'defoptions'
[10:59] <_tristan> TWD, did you try System->Admin->... ?
[10:59] <ubuntu> hi
[10:59] <TWD> Erm I don't have the gui installed?
[10:59] <nny> madman_, what are you trying to get to?
[10:59] <phr34ck> It came back :S
[10:59] <phr34ck> what the hell ....
[10:59] <Moofius> dooglus: I can not save to the file
[10:59] <DrJohnston> How do i get a list of mountable drives?
[11:00] <nny> DrJohnston, fdisk -l
[11:00] <oxygenthief> can anyon tell me how to get a via gaphic card to work
[11:00] <Moofius> I get a bit "not"-sign
[11:00] <dooglus> Moofius: use "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" to edit it
[11:00] <pinchmesh> if users aren't in the root group, the user can't su to root
[11:00] <calle_> greetings
[11:00] <_tristan> TWD, then I am unsure - I had to use a GUI tool to tell GDM not to put -nolisten on the X command line
[11:00] <_tristan> that kindof pissed me off
[11:00] <thoreauputic> madman_: it would make more sense to say what you are trying to do rather than doing something silly like trying to add users to the root group :)
[11:00] <TWD> hrm :(
[11:00] <christiane> Hello. Which pkg do I need to transcode to DivX 5?
[11:00] <mneptok> TWD: pastebin the /etc/network/interfaces you tried?
[11:00] <madman_> yes indeed
[11:00] <TWD> Like the server works I can see out and other people can SSH into it and all, but the DNS isn't working so if I want to like ping google.com or something it doesn't work.
[11:00] <madman_> my apologies.
[11:00] <_tristan> I tried editing xinitrc, startx and all the usual suspects
[11:01] <_tristan> and ended up with some gdmconfig thingy
[11:01] <madman_> in windows we have a administrative group
[11:01] <dsnyders> dooglus, yeah.  I suppose.  I have a bunch of folders that are copies of each other.
[11:01] <oxygenthief> can anyon tell me how to get a via gaphic card to work
[11:01] <madman_> generally we add users in there so they get all the rights.
[11:01] <_tristan> that neglected to update my config files
[11:01] <_tristan> haha
[11:01] <TWD> Ok let me pastebin it.
[11:01] <nny> madman_, if you are having a hard time accessing file a (permissions are not allowing you) than it is better to create permissions that do allow rather than just granting admin to evrything
[11:01] <DrJohnston> Anyone here else running hot-swappable sata drives ?
[11:01] <thoreauputic> madman_: your first user is in admin and authorised to use sudo
[11:01] <DrJohnston> i have ac ouple i'd like to use
[11:01] <nny> madman_, in windows, this is called "a security hole"
[11:01] <madman_> i know
[11:01] <thoreauputic> !sudo | madma
[11:01] <ubotu> madma: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:01] <dsnyders> dooglus, I suppose, leave the different file behind
[11:01] <mneptok> TWD: what DNS server(s) are being assigned via DHCP?
[11:02] <thoreauputic> !sudo | madman
[11:02] <ubotu> madman: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:02] <nny> madman_, heh bck up though, what are you trying to do
[11:02] <nny> enough with !sudo he knows :D
[11:02] <christiane> !divx
[11:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:02] <TWD> Well I looked on the router settings and it had 205.171.3.65 in there.
[11:02] <madman_> hold on
[11:02] <madman_> i will try something else :p
[11:02] <TWD> What I'm trying to do is set up unbuntu so that it will get the DNS from DHCP and the IP will be static.
[11:03] <pinchmesh> twd, that's kinda hard to do
[11:03] <xtknight> mwe: well this bug was rejected for some reason : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7532
[11:03] <mneptok> TWD: on the Ubuntu machine try "nslookup cnn.com 205.171.3.65" (no quotes)
[11:03] <dooglus> dsnyders: I don't know of a tool which can do it, but you can string together a few shell commands to do it
[11:03] <madman_> gmm
[11:03] <xtknight> mwe: maybe it's because the option was in the bios, i will reboot and check that now, thanks a lot for the help thus far
[11:03] <madman_> i am trying to create and copy files to the other user /home
[11:03] <pinchmesh> dhcp "assigns" addresses, and if you set it up to do it, names
[11:03] <madman_> should i just work with chmod ?
[11:03] <mwe> xtknight: yeah yw
[11:03] <dooglus> dsnyders: or investigate packages like:
[11:04] <dooglus> !info xxdiff
[11:04] <ubotu> xxdiff: a graphical file and directories comparison and merge tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.1-5 (edgy), package size 391 kB, installed size 1168 kB
[11:04] <mickotoole> How's it going all?
[11:04] <ozzloy> how do i find out the difference between the packages "subversion" and "subversion-tools"?
[11:04] <TWD> mneptok that returns a bunch of stuff but it seems to me that it did what it should.
[11:04] <dsnyders> dooglus, thanks.  I'll look into it.
[11:04] <nny> madman_, kk that makes sense
[11:04] <christiane> !codecs
[11:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:04] <TWD> gave me a bunch of IP adresses for cnn
[11:04] <nny> madman_, i assume box B user is different than box A?
[11:04] <siv0x> would codega be better then wine?
[11:04] <mickotoole> Anyone here any good with Remote backups of mySQL?
[11:04] <madman_> exactly
[11:04] <mneptok> TWD: the best way to do that is to set a static IP associated with the MAC address of the card in the machine
[11:05] <dooglus> dsnyders: I ran "apt-cache search merge directories" to get a list of possibilities
[11:05] <nny> siv0x, i use cedega, easier is a better term
[11:05] <christiane> Hello. Which pkg do I need to transcode to DivX 5?
[11:05] <dooglus> dsnyders: see also 'meld' and 'kdiff3'
[11:05] <dsnyders> dooglus, I have made backups of hard drives, and of installs by copying to various folders.   So now I have copies of copies of copies that I want to sort out.
[11:05] <TWD> Here is the file contents http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/289/
[11:05] <nny> madman_, well if you chmod the files to 777 than anyone in the world can access them.. normally, on a box you and your sister/brother/cousin uses that would be ok
[11:05] <TWD> So why doesn't DNS work.  Did I not set up something right?
[11:05] <madman_> k
[11:05] <nny> madman_, alternaitvely, you can use groups to fill that gap
[11:05] <madman_> what is the best practice then?
[11:06] <dsnyders> dooglus, meld sounds interesting.  Thanks for the suggestions.
[11:06] <nny> madman_, are you familiar with permissions ?
[11:06] <madman_> groups on folders?
[11:06] <mneptok> TWD: if nslookup works when being given the nameserver's IP, then the problem is with DHCP not setting it correctly
[11:06] <madman_> a little bit
[11:06] <nny> madman_, groups on everything
[11:06] <siv0x> nny: do you know if cs:s runs good on it?
[11:06] <dooglus> dsnyders: if you have 2 very similar directories, running a simple "diff -r dir1 dir2" will tell you what's different between them
[11:06] <nny> madman_, linux uses owner/group/everyone permissions
[11:06] <TWD> Yeah but I don't think the box is set up to use DHCP at all yet.
[11:06] <madman_> k
[11:06] <D3vil_> Hi
[11:06] <mneptok> TWD: check the router's config
[11:06] <nny> madman_, if you right click a file or do a ls -la /folder in terminal, you can see these permissions
[11:07] <mickotoole> Christiane try http://www.theorie.physik.uni-goettingen.de/~ostreich/transcode/
[11:07] <Moofius> why does ubuntu never shut down?
[11:07] <madman_> yes i saw that.
[11:07] <bruenig> Moofius, it shuts down
[11:07] <TWD> I mean the DHCP works for every other machine on the network, but I don't think the server is looking for DHCP at all or anything.
[11:07] <mneptok> TWD: Ubuntu uses DHCP by default
[11:07] <Moofius> you need to do a hard shutdown to shut it down
[11:07] <nny> should say d(dir?)rwxrwx--- or rwxr--r--
[11:07] <bruenig> Moofius, open a terminal, and do sudo shutdown -h now
[11:07] <madman_> my account on the other box has the same group has the main account on the box
[11:07] <Moofius> bruenig: no, I have seen this black screen fr 5 min now
[11:07] <mickotoole> No one can hook me up with some mySQL help then?
[11:07] <D3vil_> German Support for Ubuntu?
[11:07] <Lynoure> !de | D3vil_
[11:07] <ubotu> D3vil_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:07] <nny> the second one would be owner=r/w/e (read write execute) groups read everyone read
[11:07] <TWD> mneptok: When I was doing the install and it started to look for DHCP I hit cancel and entered all the info in manually.
[11:07] <Moofius> How can I open something when I cant see anything?!
[11:07] <mneptok> !de | D3vil_
[11:08] <D3vil_> THX
[11:08] <mneptok> keine probleme :)
[11:08] <dooglus> Moofius: you could 'ssh' from another machine?
[11:08] <D3vil_> have a nice day/night...bye
[11:08] <dooglus> Moofius: or 'putty' if it's a windows box
[11:08] <bruenig> Moofius, before you get to the point where you can't see anything
[11:09] <ubuntu> hello
[11:09] <Moofius> dooglus: how to ssh from mac osx?
[11:09] <dooglus> Moofius: since your virtual consoles aren't working, it's possible it's hanging while trying to shut something down.  you could try hitting control c?
[11:09] <nny> the second one would be owner=r/w/e (read write execute) groups read everyone read
[11:09] <hotti> what should i put to /etc/network/interfaces if i wish to get essid and wep-key for my wlan-device (ath0)?
[11:09] <ubuntu> ingles de mierda
[11:09] <ikonia> guys, I've just done a clean edgy install on my laptop as the 6.06 --> 6.10 update broke a few things (screen savers etc)
[11:09] <Moofius> ctrl+c dont do anything
[11:09] <nny> madman_, try this http://www.zzee.com/solutions/linux-permissions.shtml
[11:09] <madman_> thanks
[11:09] <ikonia> now my mouse touchpad with "scroll wheel" isn't working
[11:10] <dooglus> Moofius: I guess OS/X has ssh, but I don't know for sure
[11:10] <ikonia> the scoll wheel isn't working
[11:10] <ikonia> (although its not a wheel)
[11:10] <ikonia> whats the trick for the touchpad scroll wheel
[11:10] <Moofius> "ssh *ip*" does something for sure, it atleast spins the fan up :s
[11:11] <nny> madman np.. overall the idea you'll have is add a group (shared) for example, add user a and b to shared and then allow r/w/e or whatever you choose to on the fie(s) group permission
[11:11] <Moofius> baah,
[11:11] <xtknight> mwe: well, i didnt see options for EIST, but C1E and TM2 were enabled in the bios.  i even expanded the bios options by pressing ctrl+f1,  i still dont see options related to intel eist or speedstep
[11:11] <asX> if i'm starting beryl it only show's "beryl: Couldn't open display", can some one tell me what i'm making false?
[11:11] <gordon> Hi everybody, new user here.  How do I mount windows partition?
[11:11] <gordon> I RTFM and it said; Open System->Administration->Disks, but "Disks" isnt there :( (6.10)
[11:11] <nny> madman_, BTW #1 source of "problems" for new linux users? permissions based, IMHO
[11:11] <ikonia> asX: you'll get better help in the ubuntu-beryl channel
[11:12] <ikonia> asX: it sounds like your xgl display isn't configured
[11:12] <dooglus> Moofius: good idea :)
[11:12] <asX> hm
[11:12] <IntuitiveNipple> gordon: something like mkdir /media/windows    then    mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[11:13] <Moofius> I dunno why anybody use ubuntu, it has like 5000 bugs or something >_<
[11:13] <gordon> in a shell? I'll give it a try...
[11:13] <IntuitiveNipple> Sounds a lot less than most humans, moofius :)
[11:13] <imc_> Hey there; X problem on apt-get dist upgrade to edgy from Dapper on a HP Compaq desktop. Fat fingered X server config - can someone alk me through?
[11:13] <fowlduck> Moofius: wow, troll
[11:13] <dooglus> Moofius: the alternatives have similar numbers, and at least with ubuntu you can fix them if they bother you enough
[11:13] <imc_> s/alk/walk
[11:13] <fowlduck> !ops
[11:13] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[11:13] <IntuitiveNipple> gordon, yes... that's the manual way. Depending on circumstances you might to do "sudo su" first
[11:14] <Moofius> I thought ubuntu was a os for those non-techy, but I had wrong
[11:14] <DBO> oops im already crowned
[11:14] <apokryphos> Moofius: please don't troll
[11:14] <DBO> Moofius, trolling elsewhere
[11:14] <Moofius> troll?
[11:14] <apokryphos> Moofius: wikipedia.org/wiki/troll
[11:14] <ikonia> Moofius: provoke pointless debate
[11:14] <DBO> Moofius, this is a support channel, please limit everything to support questions only
[11:14] <mwe> xtknight: so ?
[11:15] <dooglus> Moofius: they're thinking that because you have something negative to say, you must not be sincere, and are just trying to provoke an argument
[11:15] <xtknight> mwe: you must have missed my last msg
[11:15] <xtknight> mwe: well, i didnt see options for EIST, but C1E and TM2 were enabled in the bios.  i even expanded the bios options by pressing ctrl+f1,  i still dont see options related to intel eist or speedstep
[11:15] <mwe> xtknight: the bug report was rejected because it turned out to be a BIOS issue. Appearently a BIOS update fixed it
[11:15] <hotti> what should i put to /etc/network/interfaces if i wish to get essid and wep-key for my wlan-device (ath0)?
[11:15] <mwe> oh
[11:15] <Moofius> troll = strange creature living in the woods
[11:15] <xtknight> mwe: ill see if there's any new bios updates for my board
[11:15] <apokryphos> Moofius: specifically, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
[11:15] <Moofius> well, bye!
[11:15] <trinitrogen> Im trying to listen to music and play movies that are shared on my windows machine, but when I open the share then choose the file, Movie Player doesn't do anything. If I drag them locally it works, but not over the share. Whats my best option?
[11:15] <TWD> AHA figured it out I need to edit /etc/resolv.conf with the DNS too!
[11:16] <dooglus> hotti: interfaces isn't for getting essid.  you get that by scanning, or asking the guy who set up the access point
 why u want to install older java version?
[11:16] <mwe> xtknight: yeah. i'd google linux+mobo name as well ;)
[11:16] <fowlduck> apokryphos: thanks
[11:16] <Shin_Gouki> f
[11:16] <dooglus> trinitrogen: if you mount the windows share using smbfs then it'll work
[11:16] <andy___> hi all, has anyone been successful in installing the Nvidia 8800???
[11:16] <ikonia> yup
[11:16] <val__> good afternoon. i need some help with setting up my nvidia card. followed the instructions and i get broken graphics. had to restore'
[11:16] <trinitrogen> dooglas I'll try that
[11:17] <ikonia> define broken graphics
[11:17] <hotti> dooglus: oh sorry, i meant if i know the essid and key allready and wish to put them to my device
[11:17] <val__> ikonia. well colors were all off and flashing
[11:17] <dooglus> trinitrogen: if you don't, only certain apps will be able to access the shared drive.  but if you mount the shared drive, its contents will appear as if they're local files
[11:17] <ikonia> what driver are you using ?
[11:17] <TuxOtaku> quick question guys....can i use an Edgy install CD to upgrade from Dapper, without destroying all the programs i currently have installed??
[11:17] <dooglus> hotti: it's WEP, not WPA?
[11:18] <val__> ikonia, i was using the default installation and trying to upgrade to the nvidia binary
[11:18] <ikonia> TuxOtaku: there is an upgrade guide in the wiki
[11:18] <xtknight> mwe: there is a new bios, i guess ill give it a try.  gigabyte is rather brief on their bios changelogs and all they say is 'update cpu id' and 'fsb 1333mhz support'. ill hope they fixed irq routing or maybe EIST
[11:18] <hotti> dooglus: yes wep
[11:18] <ikonia> val__: have you installed and configured the nvidia drivers
[11:18] <trinitrogen> if the share is has to words in its name (i.e. Music Videos) what should I put when the guide tells me "sudo mkdir /media/sharename"
[11:18] <dooglus> hotti: I've only ever used WPA.  isn't WEP effectively useless?
[11:18] <val__> ikonia, yes that is what i was trying to do, but that was my result
[11:18] <xtknight> mwe: brb
[11:18] <ikonia> have you installed the nvidia drivers ?
[11:19] <christiane> Hello. I tried `transcode -y divx5` but got "transcode]  warning : failed to init DivX 5.0 Codec". I think the codec isn't installed. Which pkg do I need?
[11:19] <hotti> dooglus: everything else works just fine but everytime i boot my workstation i have to manually put the essid and key to ath0 by iwconfig -commands
[11:19] <svish> hi! Why cant I remove the ekiga ipphone software? I wont be using it, but it says something is dependant on it??
[11:19] <val__> yes i did
[11:19] <eyalw> Hi
[11:19] <ikonia> how did you install them
[11:19] <hotti> dooglus: and my adsl-router suppors only wep
[11:19] <borer> server irc.irc-hispano.org
[11:19] <val__> with synaptic
[11:19] <ikonia> what package did you install
[11:19] <val__> the nvidia binary drivers
[11:19] <dsnyders> trinitrogen, Is it possible to rename the folder so that there are no spaces?
[11:19] <svish> it was installed
[11:19] <passwordissaman> i installed "3dDesktop" , but it does not work
[11:19] <svish> just installed ubuntu
[11:20] <ikonia> val__: what was the package name
[11:20] <passwordissaman> when you install stuff on ubuntu do you have to activate it in the command line each time?
[11:20] <svish> and it was here already
[11:20] <trinitrogen> dsnyders haha, but that would make it so much easier ;)
[11:20] <dooglus> hotti: here's how I did it for WPA: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/interfaces.txt - maybe it'll help you figure it out
[11:20] <val__> let me take a look i dont remember the exact name'
[11:20] <val__> nvidia glx
[11:20] <trinitrogen> dsynders yes I can but that would mean I'd have to change a couple scripts and stuff on the other machine
[11:24] <dsnyders> trinitrogen, you could try mkdir '/path with spaces'
[11:32] <Subhuman> big netsplit...
[11:34] <kitche> harrisony: hmm not me since I tend to only do security updates
[11:35] <normmac> dooglous i did that command
[11:35] <kitche> time to ignore joins and such I guess
[11:35] <asX> pwned
[11:35] <svish> !upgrade
[11:35] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:36] <Nvenin1> ye, how do i do that?
[11:36] <dooglus> normmac: and did it really spell kernel wrongly?
[11:36] <normmac> no
[11:36] <harrisony> " If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show." good on ya ubotu
[11:37] <normmac> i was typing it from my laptop
[11:37] <ikonia> Nvenin1: look at /help ignore
[11:37] <christiane> normmac: I missed some lines ... What wireless chip is it?
[11:37] <normmac> jsut a sec i have to look it up again
[11:38] <kitche> Nvenin1: what client are you using?
[11:38] <passwordissaman> how do you run xbindkeys?
[11:38] <nubbins> thanks gain, it looks like that will work
[11:38] <passwordissaman> to bind to something..
[11:38] <harrisony> !bind
[11:38] <jsuther> is PHP 5 available in 6.0.6 Server? I don't have a ubuntu box handy to check at the moment.
[11:38] <normmac> it's a broadcom bcm3406
[11:38] <ubotu> bind: Internet Domain Name Server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:8.4.6-1 (edgy), package size 888 kB, installed size 2092 kB
[11:38] <christiane> normmac: I had some problems getting my Broadcom 4311 working. I had to uninstall and manually compile the latest ndiswrapper.
[11:38] <ikonia> jsuther: yes
[11:38] <christiane> normmac: Did you run fw-cutter?
[11:38] <normmac> no i didn't i'm new to ubuntu and linux in general
[11:39] <Nvenin1> does sound jucer automatically get track info for cds?
[11:39] <Kesman> How could I mount a directory on an ftp-server to my /home-directory?
[11:39] <passwordissaman> so if i wanted to bind it to 3d desktop with the key * i would go xbindkey bind! (name of command)?
[11:39] <harrisony> !php | jsuther
[11:39] <ubotu> jsuther: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:39] <christiane> normmac: Can you look at the output of `dmesg` after trying to load the module ndiswrapper?
[11:39] <christiane> normmac: Do you know how to do this?
[11:39] <thoreauputic> !fuse| Kesman
[11:39] <ubotu> Kesman: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[11:39] <normmac> no i'm sorry
[11:39] <normmac> i'm really new to this
[11:39] <madman_> how can one get tightvnc for ubuntu
[11:39] <thoreauputic> bah fuse does other stuff besides ntfs
[11:39] <thoreauputic> :(
[11:39] <christiane> normmac: Open a terminal.
[11:39] <Nvenin1> i have ntfs full support under ubuntu
[11:40] <Nvenin1> and it works fien for me
[11:40] <stefg> !tightnvc
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tightnvc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <ikonia> madman_: look in the repo's
[11:40] <emun> parallel port does not show in device manager , what is wrong?
[11:40] <Kesman> thoreauputic: fuse's ftp module isn't compiled to ubuntu
[11:40] <stefg> !tightnvc4
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tightnvc4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <normmac> i have it open
[11:40] <Soir> madman_: Is there not a package for it?
[11:40] <madman_> i am searching for it
[11:40] <harrisony> !vnc | stefg
[11:40] <ubotu> stefg: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[11:42] <thoreauputic> Kesman: right, but the fuse module is there - you just need to look for an ftp filesystem to use with it
[11:42] <christiane> Type `dmesg` (w/o the ``). That prints out kernel (error) messages.
[11:42] <thoreauputic> Kesman: I use sshfs here
[11:42] <iturk> hi there anyone knows how to play freeciv online ?? i am still trying to enter some game which commands should i do ??
[11:42] <madman_> xtightvncviewer
[11:42] <thoreauputic> Kesman: to mount sftp/ssh
[11:42] <Soir> madman_: apt-cache search finds a package in my list, anyway..
[11:42] <normmac> did it
[11:42] <Kesman> thoreauputic: i would if I could, but hte server doesn't support ssh
[11:42] <christiane> normmac: Can you see lines containing "broadcom" or similar?
[11:42] <madman_> okay
[11:42] <xtknight> mwe: don't know, still don't see any options.  i'll just have to wait till an update is out i guess or ill mess with it later on
[11:42] <emun> is there a way to check the parallel port
[11:42] <svish> what is the difference between remove and complete removal in synaptics package manager?
[11:42] <Kesman> thoreauputic: do you mean curlftpfs as the FUSE extension?
[11:42] <madman_> !vnc
[11:42] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[11:42] <tirus89> hi, i need help installing
[11:42] <christiane> normmac: (one of the last lines ;-)
[11:42] <stefg> !install
[11:42] <xtknight> svish: complete removal removes program configuration files as well as the program itself
[11:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:42] <madman_> !freemx
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freemx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <madman_> !freenx
[11:42] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[11:42] <normmac> it's got a few about ndiswrapper
[11:42] <svish> xtknight: so in other words, that is what I should use usually?
[11:42] <thoreauputic> Kesman: google ftp fuse filesystem
[11:42] <xtknight> svish: yup
[11:42] <svish> xtknight: thanks :)
[11:42] <eyalw> Hi, i'm interested in buying a Lenovo notebook, widescreen, 14.1" but they all come with a motherboard built in graphics card - (Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900) and I know that an external one (e.g. GeForce) is considered much better. my question is how much noticable is the difference?
[11:42] <normmac> wrapper_init:129): loadndiswrapper failed (32512)
[11:42] <thoreauputic> Kesman: there was a recent article - hang on I 'll look...
[11:42] <andy___> ikonia, I am following the nvidia wiki tut, and after install nvidia-glx, I try entering "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable".  This returns an error that my Xconfiguration has been altered.  Is this a problem, or should I continue?
[11:42] <ikonia> normmac: have you checked the wiki - for the ndis wrapper howto/guide
[11:42] <ikonia> nope, not a problem
[11:43] <kitche> eyalw: the graphics are just bater but with an Intel 9xx they are as good but not as great as an nvidia one though
[11:43] <normmac> yea i installed it from the disc
[11:43] <ikonia> but I would also check the config manually
[11:43] <kitche> eyalw: bater/better : )\
[11:43] <Agent_137> eyalw, are you going to be running any new games?
[11:43] <ikonia> making sure that the dri lines have been removed
[11:43] <Agent_137> eyalw, if not running any newer games, then you'll be fine with the crappy notebook graphics card.
[11:43] <andy___> ikonia, o I should go right on to restarting X?
[11:44] <Nvenin1> why does it do all that logging in and out at the same time?
[11:44] <evildrummer> ok I need help. I must have gone wrong in the installation of beryl and now it starts on auto login then logs-user out, what is wrong or how can I stop it?
[11:44] <ikonia> did check the config as I suggested
[11:44] <Polysics> hello ppl!
[11:44] <NoBug> can someone tell me in short, what is the advantage using rsyncd instead of just using the rsync command?
[11:44] <christiane> normmac: type `ndiswrapper -l` and please write my nick (I'll change it to "vlt" for easier typing) in your posts, it's really hard to follow ...
[11:44] <Agent_137> eyalw, Sad thing is, you really have no choice. If you want heavy duty graphics intensive games on a notebook, you have to shell out some serious cash for one of the dell XPS or alienware notebooks.
[11:44] <ikonia> Nvenin1: netsplit, an irc server has died
[11:44] <Polysics> how come i can't get keys from the pgp site?
[11:44] <Polysics> anyone having same problem?
[11:45] <NevroPus> can anyone tell me about a good DVD-player for linux?
[11:45] <Agent_137> Polysics, you can't get any? I got one earlier today.
[11:45] <Polysics> i'm using this command: gpg --keyserver hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 0x483170E9
[11:45] <andy___> ikonia, check the Xorg config?  What do I look for?
[11:45] <ikonia> andy___: never mind, I told you less than a minute ago
[11:45] <vlt> normmac: Any output from `ndiswrapper -l`?
[11:45] <kitche> Polysics: because you might be using the wrong server?
[11:45] <gilnim> hi - i need a way to give each computer in my network just a limited bandwidth of my internet connection. Some suggestions?
[11:45] <ikonia> I can't be bothered
[11:45] <Polysics> basically, terminal says to be getting the key, then nothing happens :-)
[11:45] <thoreauputic> Kesman: http://linuxgazette.net/134/appaiah.html
[11:45] <PatrickMay16> Anyone here use a wireless network card that uses the "acx" module?
[11:46] <Polysics> it's copy-pasta off a compiz howto :-P
[11:46] <normmac> christiane: Installed ndis drivers bcml5 driver present hardware present
[11:46] <Agent_137> NevroPus, ive heard xine with some 3rd party codecs is good for DvDs, no experience with it though
[11:46] <andy___> ikonia, nothing is showing of such a reccomendation on my screen, could the split have messed that up?
[11:46] <evildrummer> ok I need help. I must have gone wrong in the installation of beryl and now it starts on auto login then logs-user out, what is wrong or how can I stop it?
[11:46] <kitche> Polysics: yes that just gets the key but doesn't check the public key to make sure it's signed correctly
[11:46] <pinchmesh> areca card??
[11:46] <stefg> wondershaper | gilnim
[11:46] <stefg>  !wondershaper | gilnim
[11:46] <ikonia> evildrummer: there is a
[11:46] <ikonia> oops
[11:46] <ubotu> wondershaper: Easy to use traffic shaping script. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1a-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 80 kB
[11:46] <gilnim> thanks
[11:46] <LameBMX> evildrummer, logon in safe mode .. and remove beryl from your session
[11:46] <ikonia> evildrummer: there is an xgl/beryl ubuntu channel
[11:46] <Polysics> gpg says "keyserver receive failed: keyserver error"
[11:46] <gilnim> !wondershaper
[11:46] <eyalw> Agent_137:  well i'm not interested in gaming...
[11:47] <Polysics> i hate beryl, i just want a little glitz off compiz .-)
[11:47] <vlt> normmac: And `ndiswrapper -v`? (I'm "vlt" now, btw ;-)
[11:47] <Kesman> thoreauputic: lets see...
[11:48] <normmac> vlt what did you want to know from ndiswrapper -v
[11:48] <eyalw> kitche: i'm not interested in gaming, but i am interested in beryl working smooth and high quality
[11:48] <Polysics> beryl is still way too unstable, at least on my setup
[11:48] <vlt> normmac: (Aah, you can't paste ...) The version number.
[11:48] <thoreauputic> Kesman: that article apparently shows how to use curftpfs or whatver it is :)
[11:49] <evildrummer> LameBMX: how do I logon in safe mode?
[11:49] <yemu> hi, anyone managed to print two pages on one sheet in evince
[11:49] <yemu> ??
[11:49] <Polysics> having to run it with -d 2-3 times before it's sorted ain't that pretty
[11:49] <iratik> sigh..... sorry to ask such a basic question .. how do you remove a symbolic link (yes i did man ln and tried rm) ?
[11:49] <kivio> unlink iratik
[11:49] <yemu> it worked in dapper but it doesnt work in edgy
[11:49] <iratik> thankyou
[11:49] <vlt> normmac: utils and driver version
[11:49] <thoreauputic> iratik: you just rm the link
[11:49] <Kesman> thoreauputic: yeah, but I still don't know it is supported by ubuntu
[11:49] <Umbrellajack`> Hi, I can't gey my wireless card to connect to my router properly. It connects to my neighbors' without any issues. When I connect to my own, bytes are sent back and forth and the router sees the card's MAC address but can't find its host name. No matter what I try I can't get the internet goin.
[11:51] <LameBMX> clcik the button that says sessions at the bottom left of the session screen evildrummer
[11:51] <normmac> vlt doesn't say i'm using ndiswrapper 1.22
[11:51] <thoreauputic> Kesman: well, I don't see why not
[11:51] <yemu> hi, anyone managed to print two pages on one sheet in evince?
[11:51] <thoreauputic> Kesman: if sshfs works I would expect that to work too
[11:52] <stefg> !wifi | Umbrellajack`
[11:52] <ubotu> Umbrellajack`: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:52] <NaPsTeR> hi
[11:52] <NaPsTeR> my sound is funny
[11:52] <ikonia> what the heck is the name of the gdm config tool. I had it in 6.0.6
[11:52] <NaPsTeR> i just installed ubuntu
[11:52] <ikonia> can't see it in 6.10
[11:52] <vlt> normmac: "doesn't" ??? What else?
[11:52] <NaPsTeR> it is just sounding very wierd
[11:52] <NaPsTeR> wat do i do?
[11:52] <tirus89> um, after i boot from the cd and choose to install/live boot from the cd and then i get a "*preparing restricted drivers..." then nothing happens
[11:52] <Polysics> anyhoo, looks like the key server ain't working :-/
[11:52] <pinchmesh> Umbrellajack`, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+networking&btnG=Google+Search
[11:52] <normmac> vlt -v shows me the different commands
[11:52] <ikonia> tirus89: do you have an ati card
[11:52] <tirus89> no
[11:52] <NaPsTeR> so
[11:52] <LameBMX> NaPsTeR, stop sucking the helium out of ballons and you will sound normal
[11:52] <maddash> I did a server install of breezy. the system is quite fast, but the startup time is still slower than XP on the same comp. One of the things that slows breezy down is the e2fsck that is invoked during *every* boot. how can I disable it?
[11:52] <ikonia> shouldn't be looking at restricted drivers then
[11:52] <NaPsTeR> haha
[11:52] <eyalw> Agent_137: i won't have any problems with the intel graphic card?
[11:52] <NaPsTeR> no really
[11:52] <NaPsTeR> wat can i do?
[11:52] <ikonia> maddash: don't
[11:52] <tirus89> ikonia, i dont know, im new to this whole linux thing
[11:53] <ikonia> eyalw: you may do
[11:53] <LameBMX> !sound
[11:53] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[11:53] <Agent_137> eyalw, Oh, you mean, ubuntu not recognizing it? that's possible, I've heard ubuntu isn't friendly with nvidia.
[11:53] <Polysics> !beryl
[11:53] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:53] <ikonia> Agent_137: thats nosense
[11:53] <kitche> maddash: you probably have to change how many times it runs probably you can do that with tune2fs look at it's man page
[11:53] <yemu> hi, anyone managed to print pdf with  two pages on one sheet in evince??
[11:53] <NaPsTeR> wheres ALSA?