Zzzot | help | 12:21 |
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Zzzot | I am trying to improve the performance of my kubuntu6.10 system. some tips/tricks that I have read say to remove unneeded ttys from /etc/inittab how would i do this with upstart? | 12:25 |
Zzzot | would I remove the files from /etc/event.d? for example: /etc/event.d/tty6? | 12:26 |
Md | it will not help unless you are *horribly* tight on RAM | 12:26 |
Zzzot | Do I have the idea correct? would I remove the files from /etc/event.d? for example: /etc/event.d/tty6? | 12:35 |
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gnutz | /msg nickserv link gnutz workhard | 05:54 |
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Keybuk | gnutz: you may want to change your password ;) | 05:55 |
gnutz | LOL | 05:55 |
gnutz | Im a dame nubie | 05:55 |
gnutz | damm | 05:55 |
AlexExtreme | heh | 05:55 |
gnutz | So I guess I just exploted my user account | 05:56 |
gnutz | LOL | 05:56 |
AlexExtreme | yeah | 05:56 |
gnutz | So is this an Ubuntu room? | 05:56 |
AlexExtreme | /msg nickserv set password will help | 05:56 |
AlexExtreme | gnutz, it's for the init program used in Ubuntu | 05:56 |
gnutz | ok thx | 05:56 |
gnutz | init? | 05:57 |
gnutz | what is that? | 05:57 |
AlexExtreme | gnutz, init is the program which boots up a linux system | 05:57 |
wasabi | I'm curious how you managed to join the channel. | 05:57 |
gnutz | o the Kernal? | 05:57 |
AlexExtreme | gnutz, no, it's the thing that's run once the kernel is loaded | 05:57 |
gnutz | wasabi try /list then click | 05:58 |
gnutz | Ok like a gnome / xsever type of thing? | 05:59 |
AlexExtreme | no | 05:59 |
gnutz | Never mind sorry Ill google it | 05:59 |
AlexExtreme | gnutz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Init might help you understand what init does | 05:59 |
gnutz | Cool Im reading up on it | 06:01 |
gnutz | Hey I do have a relitive question | 06:02 |
gnutz | I have dual boot XP ntfs on fisrt part then EXT3 with Unbuntu on the 2nd part | 06:02 |
gnutz | some times I'll boot outta XP and into Ubuntu and it will freeze | 06:03 |
AlexExtreme | XP freezes? or Ubuntu? | 06:03 |
gnutz | then I'll hard boot and Ubuntu will finale boot up | 06:03 |
gnutz | Ubuntu | 06:03 |
AlexExtreme | strange | 06:04 |
gnutz | Im wondering if Ubuntu is corrpting the MBR | 06:04 |
gnutz | or its a NTFS issue | 06:04 |
AlexExtreme | you should probably ask in #ubuntu | 06:04 |
AlexExtreme | just type /j #ubuntu | 06:04 |
gnutz | cool Alex thnx | 06:04 |
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Keybuk | http://einit.sourceforge.net/ | 06:10 |
Keybuk | No real shell scripts, no inittab, no runlevels and a configuration file in XML | 06:10 |
Keybuk | nice to see people refer to upstart :) | 06:11 |
AlexExtreme | Keybuk, strange, I was just reading that at the exact same time as you... :P | 06:11 |
Keybuk | http://einit.sourceforge.net/documentation/users/introduction-differences-upstart.html | 06:11 |
Keybuk | heh | 06:12 |
Keybuk | I'd be interested to see how it's "partially event-based" | 06:12 |
AlexExtreme | yes... I don't quite get how that would work | 06:12 |
Keybuk | I guess it's actually as event-based as upstart | 06:13 |
Keybuk | actually, it looks rather strange | 06:15 |
Keybuk | to my eyes, anyway; I guess it makes sense to the author | 06:15 |
AlexExtreme | It must do, otherwise he/she wouldn't have written it | 06:16 |
Keybuk | the embedded market does seem to be the focus | 06:18 |
Keybuk | e.g. having just one config file for every single job/task/service/module/mode | 06:18 |
Keybuk | makes it hard for a distribution though, as packages can't extend it | 06:18 |
AlexExtreme | yes | 06:19 |
AlexExtreme | the first design flaw that will make it difficult for a distro to adopt it ;) | 06:19 |
Keybuk | I doubt their aiming for that | 06:19 |
AlexExtreme | interesting.... there's a file in it's source called "bitch.c" | 06:19 |
AlexExtreme | with a "bitch" function | 06:19 |
Keybuk | dpkg has an ohshit() function | 06:20 |
Keybuk | and an onshite() function | 06:20 |
Keybuk | the difference being that onshite() appends strerror() to the error message :p | 06:20 |
AlexExtreme | really? :) | 06:20 |
Keybuk | I'm hardly in a position to diss someone for NIHing an init daemon <g> | 06:20 |
Keybuk | I wish them well | 06:20 |
AlexExtreme | may I ask, what does NIH stand for? | 06:21 |
Keybuk | Not Implemented Here | 06:21 |
Keybuk | or Not Invented Here | 06:21 |
AlexExtreme | ah | 06:21 |
Keybuk | it's usually used in a derogative sense if someone goes and reinvents a wheel | 06:22 |
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Keybuk | or writes code themselves that already existed elsewhere | 06:22 |
Keybuk | the focus really does seem to be writing everything in C | 06:26 |
Keybuk | cf. the modules subdir | 06:26 |
Keybuk | it has C code to do things like set the hostname, mount a filesystem, fork getty, etc. | 06:26 |
Keybuk | whereas we'd use shell code for that | 06:26 |
AlexExtreme | Keybuk, question: when do you think the current specifications for upstart be implemented? just so I know if upstart will be ready for Frugalware 0.6, or whether I'll need to delay inclusion of upstart until 0.7 | 06:28 |
Keybuk | I'm aiming for over the next two weeks | 06:29 |
AlexExtreme | hmm# | 06:29 |
AlexExtreme | would be in time for rc1, if I work hard on the jobs... but after rc1 will have to be delayed | 06:30 |
AlexExtreme | mental note: stop thinking out loud | 06:30 |
Keybuk | heh | 06:30 |
Keybuk | nothing wrong with thinking out loud, I do it all the time | 06:30 |
AlexExtreme | :p | 06:30 |
Keybuk | it's been delayed a bit from my original plan because I've changed roles at Canonical | 06:30 |
Md | what are you working on now/ | 06:31 |
Md | ? | 06:31 |
Keybuk | I'm a manager now; in charge of one of the two teams that develop Ubuntu | 06:32 |
AlexExtreme | ah | 06:33 |
Keybuk | I'll be still doing a fair amount of development work as well, ie. initramfs/udev/upstart | 06:33 |
Keybuk | but the transition meant that I didn't get as much chance as I'd've liked before xmas | 06:33 |
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