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| praetor | goldenear: hehe, I particularly like the way the EU uses the word choice in their FAQ, under the question "What kind of player do I need to view the live streaming media..?" | 12:39 |
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| praetor | "The users have the choice between Microsoft Media Player 6.4 and higher" | 12:39 |
| praetor | as someone else pointed out in that /. thread, it is a little ironic given that the EU forced Microsoft to sell a version of Windows without media player | 12:40 |
| goldenear | exactly... that's really a non sense | 12:42 |
| ryanakca | lol | 12:48 |
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| praetor | heh even dell offer their videos in ogg theora as well as wmv | 12:54 |
| praetor | http://www.direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/category/1021.aspx | 12:54 |
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| goldenear | if they wanted a multiplatforms free software streaming solution they should have use VLC imho | 01:01 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 02:48 |
| nixternal | boo | 02:49 |
| bddebian | ahh | 02:49 |
| nixternal | now look at boogs, i reversed ya | 02:49 |
| bddebian | heh | 02:49 |
| nixternal | damn, almost 8pm and I haven't eaten yet | 02:50 |
| nixternal | fo0d time :) | 02:50 |
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| Jucato | Hobbsee: where do I go to ask questions about signing the CoC and PGP keys stuff? | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | !gpg | 03:34 |
| ubotu | gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: anywhere on IRC. what was your question? | 03:34 |
| Jucato | do I really need to follow those steps about getting the key signed? | 03:35 |
| Jucato | "Locate someone that lives near you and can meet with you to verify your ID. Sites like [WWW] http://www.biglumber.com/ are useful for this purpose" | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | not to sign the COC | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | if you want to go for MOTU, yes. it's also good to do it | 03:35 |
| Jucato | aaah. so I only have to create a key for signing the CoC, no need to get the key signed? | 03:36 |
| Jucato | heh.. I'm nervous about making keys and stuff... well, here goes nothing | 03:37 |
| Lathiat | Jucato: just don't lose the key, and make a backup fo it & the revoc cert :) | 03:44 |
| Jucato | oh not losing it will probably be the biggest problem lol | 03:44 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:44 |
| Hobbsee | leave it on your system, and dont lose your system :P | 03:45 |
| Jucato | oh *that* is an even bigger problem lol | 03:45 |
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| Hobbsee | Jucato: haha, yeah. they're not hard to revoke, either | 04:38 |
| === Hobbsee has revoked 1 | ||
| Jucato | :) | 04:38 |
| === Lathiat ahs revoked 1 and has liek 3 others he lost the keys for | ||
| Jucato | Hobbsee: so in that wiki page, I only have to follow up to the Uploading the Key step? | 04:38 |
| Lathiat | back when i was nieve about these things | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | Lathiat: heh, yes | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | !gpg | 04:39 |
| ubotu | gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: you can ignore 5, do the rest | 04:40 |
| Jucato | ah thanks. I'll be signin the CoC soonish | 04:40 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 04:43 |
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| Jucato | hm.. the key-id is the public key, right? | 04:59 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 05:00 |
| Jucato | and the private key would be where/what? | 05:00 |
| Jucato | er.. so what *is* the key? the key-id? | 05:04 |
| Hobbsee | gpg --list-keys | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: which? the public or the private? | 05:05 |
| Jucato | um... what is being referred to when they talk about keys in general? the public? | 05:06 |
| Hobbsee | both public and private | 05:06 |
| Jucato | ah | 05:06 |
| Hobbsee | you dont give out your private key | 05:06 |
| Hobbsee | oh, and you upload your public key to LP | 05:06 |
| Hobbsee | iirc | 05:06 |
| Jucato | in the --list-keys output, which is the private key? the sub line? | 05:06 |
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| Hobbsee | yep | 05:07 |
| Jucato | aah | 05:08 |
| Jucato | ok.. :) | 05:08 |
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| Jucato | Hobbsee: last question... when pasting the codeofconduct.asc... do I need to put in my full name, or is the PGP signature enough? | 05:27 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: gpg sig is enough | 05:29 |
| Jucato | ah kool | 05:29 |
| Hobbsee | found another source of spam :( | 05:31 |
| Jucato | aw... :( | 05:31 |
| Jucato | oooh yay!! now an ubuntero!!! :D | 05:31 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 05:32 |
| Jucato | now to join the ops ML... | 05:32 |
| Jucato | and LP group.. :O | 05:32 |
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| Riddell | hi Hobbsee, we should organise a kubuntu meeting for next week | 12:23 |
| Hobbsee | hey Riddell! OK, what are we discussing? | 12:23 |
| === Hobbsee has to witness something, be right back | ||
| Riddell | dunno, anything :) | 12:24 |
| === Hobbsee has witnessed. yay. | ||
| Hobbsee | Riddell: right. | 12:26 |
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| === Hobbsee looks at the day | ||
| Hobbsee | Jucato: Hawkwind mhb got anything to add to the meeting? | 12:27 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: i'll cover it. | 12:30 |
| Hobbsee | (hte meeting) | 12:30 |
| Hobbsee | @time est | 12:32 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in EST: January 03 2007, 06:32:29 | 12:32 |
| Riddell | someone just e-mailed me this http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/foo.jpg | 12:32 |
| Riddell | an interesting way to report a bug | 12:32 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: hahaha, nice :) | 12:33 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: sounds like an easy fix is to create an empty file there :P | 12:33 |
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| Jucato | Hobbsee: sorry I was afk. | 01:02 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: it's fine. | 01:02 |
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| Riddell | imbrandon_ is still alive! | 01:37 |
| imbrandon_ | riddell hehe yea | 01:38 |
| imbrandon_ | i've been alive, just been away from irc | 01:38 |
| imbrandon_ | heheh :) | 01:38 |
| Jucato | ooh hi imbrandon_!!! | 01:39 |
| imbrandon_ | i'm still kickin and workin | 01:39 |
| imbrandon_ | heya jucato | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | yay, imbrandon_! | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: of course he is, he uploaded kdepim for me | 01:39 |
| Jucato | imbrandon_: Sho_ was asking about you. (and your nightly konvi builds :) ) | 01:39 |
| imbrandon_ | oh snap i bet they stoped when i redid the server | 01:39 |
| imbrandon_ | i'll get on that today | 01:39 |
| imbrandon_ | heya hobbsee | 01:40 |
| === imbrandon_ has a fever and is sick from work today | ||
| Hobbsee | imbrandon_: argh, what do i do about libdvdread? | 01:40 |
| imbrandon_ | as in ? libdvdcss2 script? | 01:40 |
| Jucato | imbrandon_: oh.. better get well first. he was just curious, since he hasn't seen you in #konversation for quite some time | 01:40 |
| imbrandon_ | jucato , i just took a break from irc , i'm still always on jabber and still working as much as ever ;) | 01:41 |
| imbrandon_ | jucato , ahh i just have a small fever, better to be on the computer trying to break it then in bed :) | 01:41 |
| Jucato | imbrandon_: aah. nice to hear. we (Sho and I) were getting a bit worried :) | 01:41 |
| Jucato | hahah! | 01:42 |
| Hobbsee | bugmail's starting again | 01:42 |
| Jucato | I was also sick during new year... colds/coughs/asthma.. not a great way to start the year | 01:42 |
| Hobbsee | :( | 01:43 |
| Jucato | hm... what package allows Krita to save/export to GIF? I installed kde-core so I'm not sure if I got the correct package(s). I got libungif4g... I can only save to GIF in digiKam | 01:50 |
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| Jucato | Hobbsee: bug 73003, any chance of being fixed in Edgy? (Feisty is still almost 4 months away) | 02:34 |
| Jucato | ugh.. | 02:34 |
| Jucato | bug #73003 | 02:34 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: URL? | 02:34 |
| === Hobbsee hands Jucato the SRU rulebook | ||
| Jucato | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/73003 you just commented on it :) | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | well, tell me which i'ts on, at least :P | 02:35 |
| Jucato | korganizer does not start from K Menu -> run dialog | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | "just" | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | i did that days ago :P | 02:35 |
| Jucato | lol just got the e-mail notification today... | 02:35 |
| apokryphos | Ubugtu: bug bug #73003 | 02:35 |
| apokryphos | Ubugtu: bug #73003 | 02:35 |
| apokryphos | on holiday, it seems | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, bugmail was broken | 02:36 |
| Jucato | btw, it might also be connected to the other KOrganizer bug, the one that korganizer window doesn't get restored/raised if you click on the icon in system tray | 02:36 |
| Jucato | ah no wonder... bugmail :) | 02:37 |
| Hobbsee | branches/KDE/3.5/kdepim/korganizer | 02:38 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: just http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdepim/korganizer/korganizer.desktop?rev=595238&r1=590357&r2=595238&makepatch=1&diff_format=h ? | 02:39 |
| Jucato | hmm... | 02:40 |
| Jucato | heh what a simple solution :) | 02:40 |
| Hobbsee | !sru | Jucato | 02:40 |
| ubotu | Jucato: Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates for main and restricted, while https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU is for universe and multiverse. | 02:40 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 02:40 |
| Hobbsee | it'll need to be the main one | 02:40 |
| Jucato | oh.. which will make it harder to include... but I thought it made it through the last batch of KDE updates... | 02:41 |
| Jucato | I guess it didn't... | 02:41 |
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| Hobbsee | kde 3.5.5 never got into edgy, did it? | 02:41 |
| Hobbsee | oh wait, that should have... | 02:41 |
| Jucato | it's the default | 02:41 |
| Hobbsee | so isnt that fixed? | 02:41 |
| Jucato | let me try again | 02:41 |
| Jucato | nope. let me try that (heh) patch :) | 02:42 |
| === Jucato wonders why the MimeType line was also removed | ||
| Jucato | kool. that patch seems to have fixed both bugs | 02:46 |
| Jucato | relevant KDE bug report: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135513 | 02:47 |
| Ubugtu | KDE bug 135513 in general "Korganizer won't open from system tray" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 02:47 |
| Jucato | heh it's working again | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 02:48 |
| === Jucato checks his KDE 3.5.5 SVN build... | ||
| Jucato | oh krap! I don't have kdepim installed there lol | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 02:49 |
| Jucato | only kdebase... now's a good time to build it :) | 02:49 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: making patches for Kubuntu is not the same as making patches for KDE, is it? (in KDE, you usually just submit the patch/diff to a mailing list or the maintainer) | 02:53 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: you can take the kde patch, and apply it to kubuntu | 02:53 |
| Hobbsee | it's fairly close | 02:54 |
| Jucato | it's in the packaging guide, right? | 02:54 |
| Jucato | but since it's in KDE SVN already... and KDE 3.5.6 is out in a few weeks... | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | yeah - may not be worht fixing | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | well, seeing as most will move to 3.5.6 | 02:54 |
| Jucato | :) | 02:55 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt like the long SRU process | ||
| === Hobbsee whines at people who send her crappy patches | ||
| Jucato | I guess devs are too traumatized by what happened with the previous xorg update... | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | true that | 02:56 |
| === Jucato wonders... | ||
| Jucato | bah nvm :P | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | what? | 03:00 |
| nixternal | moin | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | hey nixternal! | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: got anything to add to the meeting agenda? | 03:01 |
| nixternal | when is the meeting? | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | next week sometime | 03:01 |
| nixternal | ahhh, i am sure i can make something up to annoy everyone with :) | 03:01 |
| Jucato | :P | 03:02 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:02 |
| === Jucato wonders if the konqueror profiles thing should be brought up in a meeting.. if it wasn't brought up before... | ||
| nixternal | heh, i have a new error when trying to update, and it seems whoever made the error either had something else in mind, or they can't spell worth a crap | 03:02 |
| nixternal | Segmentation faultsts... 0% | 03:02 |
| nixternal | wth is that? | 03:02 |
| Jucato | lol | 03:02 |
| Riddell | it's one message on top of another | 03:03 |
| nixternal | i can't update :( | 03:03 |
| Hobbsee | woot, my pbuilder wont update, due to a bug in vimtiny... | 03:04 |
| nixternal | hehe, i can't stand vim-tiny, i need the full | 03:07 |
| nixternal | it has a bunch of annoyancies that i am just used to doing | 03:07 |
| Hobbsee | argh..... | 03:10 |
| Hobbsee | no vi to edit what it's broken.. | 03:10 |
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| Hobbsee | hey allee | 03:55 |
| Hobbsee | @now utc | 03:57 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in Etc/UTC: January 03 2007, 14:57:28 | 03:57 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 04:00 |
| Jucato | hi bddebian | 04:00 |
| === Hobbsee emails the ML | ||
| bddebian | Heya Jucato | 04:00 |
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| damaltor | hello everybody | 04:01 |
| damaltor | can anybody tell me if (k)ubuntu 6.10 supports hfs+ file systems, used by apples ipod? | 04:02 |
| Riddell | I have no idea, user questions best in #kubuntu or #ubuntu | 04:03 |
| damaltor | hmm... k thx | 04:04 |
| === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Hobbsee] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Happy Newness! | Merge ! http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+specs | Please add to the agenda - we want to have a meeting next week! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings | ||
| Hobbsee | anyone done a psycoanalytical test for a job before? | 04:07 |
| Hobbsee | <offtopic> | 04:07 |
| apokryphos | heh, nope | 04:08 |
| === Hobbsee already works for the company, dammit :P | ||
| Hobbsee | just a different section of it | 04:09 |
| bddebian | Hobbsee: I've done several and of course they all say I'm insane :-) | 04:10 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: hah. you're getting larted later, fyi | 04:10 |
| bddebian | Great | 04:10 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: over https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/feisty-changes/2007-January/002892.html | 04:10 |
| bddebian | Hobbsee: I didn't "do it", I just uploaded it, why what's the matter with it? | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: changelog entry. i've been told off for such things too :( | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: shoulda made adri2000 fix it, apparently | 04:13 |
| bddebian | ?? | 04:13 |
| Hobbsee | ?? to which? | 04:13 |
| bddebian | What's wrong with it? | 04:13 |
| Hobbsee | you have to list all the changes | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | "keep all ubuntu changes" doesnt suffice | 04:14 |
| bddebian | He has the 1.5 entry in there. | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, i know :( | 04:14 |
| bddebian | Oh, well, that's news to me :-) | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:14 |
| === Hobbsee beds | ||
| Hobbsee | bddebian: ah well, just a FYI | 04:15 |
| bddebian | So fire me ;-P | 04:16 |
| bddebian | Gnight | 04:16 |
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| Hobbsee | bddebian: nah, then who would do all the uploading? :) | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: and bug fixing? | 04:18 |
| Jucato | night Hobbsee! | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | oh yeah, was going to bed | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | yay, member-to-be Zerlinna :) | 04:18 |
| Zerlinna | Hobbsee: I hope this mean you'll vote for me :D | 04:20 |
| Zerlinna | +s | 04:20 |
| Hobbsee | Zerlinna: hehe. well, i cant cheer for you, that's certain :P | 04:20 |
| Hobbsee | (being part of the voting team) | 04:20 |
| Zerlinna | Hobbsee: it's enough if you vote :P | 04:20 |
| Hobbsee | Zerlinna: haha | 04:20 |
| Hobbsee | Zerlinna: you're on the kubuntu-devel ML? | 04:20 |
| Zerlinna | Hobbsee: yes I lurke there, too ;) | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | just checking | 04:21 |
| === Hobbsee pokes Jucato - same question | ||
| Jucato | wow everyone's becoming a member nowadays | 04:21 |
| Jucato | ML? yep. kubuntu-devel and kubuntu-users :) | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: heh. we havent had any in a while, iirc | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | :) neat | 04:21 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: fancy e-mailing everyone who has applied to be a kubuntu member and ask if they're still interested? | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: could be a plan. the next question is "interested in what?" or "interested in doing what?" | 04:22 |
| Zerlinna | Jucato: I hope I'll be a member... though I'm not a dev :-/ | 04:22 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: also, do we keep the renewals the same as ubuntu memberships? | 04:22 |
| Jucato | Zerlinna: oh you'll be one... Hobbsee seems to have your back :) | 04:22 |
| === Hobbsee couldnt say :P | ||
| Zerlinna | Hobbsee: does your gpg-kmail work now? | 04:22 |
| Hobbsee | Zerlinna: members arent fully devs. but we could get you dev'ing :P | 04:22 |
| mhb | hi all | 04:23 |
| Hobbsee | Zerlinna: no idea. i'm kinda limited in that, as i'm only running imap email, and kmail has a rather critical bug, where doing most things with imap mail makes kmail sigseiv. | 04:23 |
| Zerlinna | Hobbsee: that's what I'm afraid of :D | 04:23 |
| Hobbsee | hey mhb! | 04:23 |
| Jucato | hi mhb | 04:23 |
| Hobbsee | Zerlinna: hahaha. you'll cope :P | 04:23 |
| Zerlinna | Hobbsee: sorry I couldn't help you with that :-/ | 04:23 |
| Jucato | dev'ing is fun! (I think lol!) | 04:23 |
| Hobbsee | Zerlinna: yeah, didnt think so :( | 04:23 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: yes, same as ubuntu, renewals should be done every two years I think, and it shouldn't need anyone turning up at a meeting | 04:24 |
| === Hobbsee is waiting for that to be fixed before seriously looking at it | ||
| mhb | so who's this mystical Zerlinna ? :o) | 04:24 |
| Zerlinna | mhb: mystical? | 04:24 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: right. last i heard, sivang was asking about it, and the CC hadnt decided. of course, the CC hasnt been decided yet either, iirc. | 04:24 |
| === Zerlinna <------- is everything but mystical, lol | ||
| === Hobbsee points at Zerlinna fearfully, and runs away :P | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:24 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: yeah, we'll just follow whatever they come up with | 04:24 |
| Zerlinna | Hobbsee: silly girl :P | 04:24 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: OK. will attempt to follow up | 04:25 |
| mhb | Zerlinna: sure, because I've not found your wiki page and I've never talked to you here, so you're rather mystical for me :o) | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | Zerlinna: *grin* | 04:25 |
| Zerlinna | Riddell: is there a decision yet about how to approve Kubuntu-locos? | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: adding it to my todo in icons | 04:26 |
| Hobbsee | Zerlinna: do they exist? | 04:26 |
| === Hobbsee wasnt aware of any of them | ||
| Riddell | Zerlinna: nothing has changed, I just add them to kubuntu.org/support.php if they seem sane | 04:26 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: do they get hosting from canonical though? and/or do the ubuntu ones? | 04:26 |
| Zerlinna | mhb: https://launchpad.net/~waeckerlin | 04:27 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: yes, both can | 04:27 |
| Jucato | hm... mystical == mysterious? | 04:27 |
| mhb | Zerlinna: toll! | 04:27 |
| Zerlinna | Hobbsee: our german kubuntu community wants to get officially approved | 04:27 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: right | 04:27 |
| Hobbsee | Zerlinna: ahh. --> agenda may be a good place for that, unless Riddell wants to handle it now (and the hosting, if required)? | 04:28 |
| Zerlinna | Hobbsee: we do the hosting ourself... we have just a little problem with the domain, but riddell and jono are taking care of it | 04:29 |
| Zerlinna | I hope :D | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | ah :) | 04:29 |
| Zerlinna | mhb: naja ;) | 04:29 |
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| Zerlinna | Riddell: official loco-teams also get shipit... it would be cool if that applied to kubuntu-locos, too | 04:32 |
| mhb | Zerlinna: maybe it would be better to insert a link to your launchpad profile/wiki page next to your IRC nick on the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings page | 04:32 |
| Riddell | Zerlinna: true | 04:32 |
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| mhb | Hobbsee|Remote: I thought showing status via your nick isn't the way to go... | 04:33 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: i plan to quit this client | 04:33 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: but you're right | 04:33 |
| Zerlinna | mhb I hadn't seen yet that Hobbsee added me to the list! | 04:33 |
| Zerlinna | mhb: I fear I have to upate my wikipage :D | 04:33 |
| Hobbsee | Zerlinna: i so didnt :P | 04:33 |
| === Hobbsee only saw it there | ||
| === Zerlinna scratching her head.. did I? | ||
| Hobbsee | seems so... | 04:34 |
| Hobbsee | check the history of the page if you think you didnt | 04:34 |
| Zerlinna | Hobbsee no I didn't | 04:35 |
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| === Hobbsee now curious... | ||
| Zerlinna | it's true that I wanted to do it.. but it wasn't me... :D | 04:35 |
| mhb | Zerlinna: how big is the German Kubuntu community (I mean the active,administrative part, not the users) ? Is there enough people to do a separate shipit etc? | 04:35 |
| mhb | Zerlinna: I just wonder ... | 04:35 |
| Hobbsee | oh drat, it doesnt show all revisions... | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | Zerlinna: i didnt, anyway | 04:36 |
| === Hobbsee really beds! | ||
| Hobbsee | anything else, i'll look thru the remote client when i wake up again | 04:36 |
| Zerlinna | mhb: we have 18 active team-members | 04:36 |
| Zerlinna | mhb: and about 5000 registered users | 04:37 |
| mhb | Zerlinna: interesting. What do team-members do? | 04:37 |
| mhb | Zerlinna: usually | 04:37 |
| === mhb just wonders | ||
| Zerlinna | mhb everything :D | 04:39 |
| Zerlinna | mhb we're just starting out.. the community started like one month ago when the forums from kubuntu.de had to move | 04:39 |
| Zerlinna | mhd so we moved the forums, changed the board software, registered the domain, now we're deciding on the future cms, creating a design and theme | 04:42 |
| mhb | Zerlinna: cool. If there are some people that want to test new versions (and report bugs&stuff), maybe they can consider the kubuntu-testers team | 04:42 |
| Zerlinna | mhd personnally I'm more into translating (we translated uwn24 and uwn 25) and news | 04:43 |
| mhb | Zerlinna: sure, but it seems you have a fairly large user base | 04:43 |
| mhb | Zerlinna: and some users prefer to run the "cutting edge" versions | 04:43 |
| Zerlinna | mhd oh yes and we have our own archive (packages.czessi.org) | 04:44 |
| Zerlinna | mhb: we have to settle down first and get all the website-stuff done.. but when we'll have a little more time, sure, why not :) | 04:45 |
| === Zerlinna is still broding if she added herself... | ||
| mhb | Zerlinna: nope | 04:48 |
| mhb | Zerlinna: If I understand the diffs correctly Riddell added you | 04:49 |
| mhb | Zerlinna: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings?action=info | 04:50 |
| Zerlinna | mhb: I think I've found it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings?action=diff&rev1=210&rev2=209 | 04:51 |
| Zerlinna | mhb: anyway, I wanted to do it so it's fine.. I just thought I can't be THAT oblivious :D | 04:52 |
| mhb | Zerlinna: ein Blog auf Deutsch! another chance to practice my German. | 04:58 |
| Zerlinna | mhb: 90% of it is in English.. but when I write about the german community I tranlsate it into german | 05:00 |
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| Zerlinna | mhb: but you're invited to read only the german part ;) | 05:01 |
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| mhb | Zerlinna: thanks. Good luck with the data transfer and such ... see you at the meeting, if not earlier | 05:04 |
| Zerlinna | mhb: see ya :) | 05:12 |
| Riddell | Zerlinna: yay, jono e-mailed! | 05:13 |
| Riddell | I wonder what excuse juliux will find this time | 05:13 |
| === Zerlinna wonders that too! | ||
| Zerlinna | ah, here's the mail... good :D | 05:14 |
| mhb | Riddell: good afternoon. Remember bug 47181 ? A lot of translations will get fixed if you rename adept.mo into adept_manager.mo . I'll do some more research and report later today. | 05:14 |
| mhb | hmm... is ubugtu broken somehow? | 05:16 |
| Jucato | for malone bugs, it seems so | 05:16 |
| mhb | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/47181 -- broken localisation support in Adept | 05:17 |
| Riddell | mhb: will that break the other parts of adept? | 05:18 |
| mhb | Riddell: no | 05:21 |
| mhb | Riddell: it's actually a separate issue | 05:22 |
| mhb | Riddell: when you have adept.mo , no app loads it | 05:22 |
| mhb | Riddell: so adept_manager is even less translated | 05:22 |
| mhb | Riddell: when you rename it to adept_manager.mo, Adept Manager gets translated, but there's still the issue of not loading libept.mo that I want to fix | 05:23 |
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| Riddell | but we want all the adept programmes to load it | 05:24 |
| Riddell | so we probably want something in the code to say "load adept.mo" | 05:24 |
| mhb | Riddell: Yes. I'll read some API docs of the klocale.h and report later. | 05:26 |
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| Riddell | ooh, new beryl from imbrandon_ | 05:46 |
| fdoving | Riddell: with dualscreen support or?.. | 06:07 |
| sebas | If it's somewhat recent, yes. | 06:08 |
| === sebas is running Beryl 0.1.4, which has good dualscreen support. | ||
| fdoving | the one in feisty ~2weeks ago didn't work well with my two screens. | 06:08 |
| sebas | Well, I'm running kwin, but I've Beryl installed. | 06:08 |
| Riddell | ooh, sebas, did you get to Edinburgh? | 06:09 |
| sebas | Riddell: Yeah, even returned :-) | 06:09 |
| fdoving | I use the free ati driver, on ppc, i ask for trouble :) | 06:09 |
| sebas | Riddell: Nice city, I like Cockburn Street and Frankenstein most, I think | 06:10 |
| sebas | For shopping / drinking at least | 06:10 |
| Riddell | I can just see you hanging out with the goths on Cockburn Street | 06:11 |
| Riddell | shame I wasn't around | 06:11 |
| ryanakca | has anybody worked on SolSeek? or shall I finish my package for it? | 06:12 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: I've not heard of anyone doing so | 06:12 |
| ryanakca | kk, ty | 06:12 |
| sebas | Riddell: Eh, yeah :> | 06:13 |
| imbrandon_ | Riddell, hehe yea new beryl | 06:13 |
| sebas | We were pretty lucky actually, not one drop of rain during our stay | 06:13 |
| === sebas is working on proper UUID and LABEL support in mountconfig right now, by the way. | ||
| imbrandon_ | they are cleaning up some lic issues with soem of the plugins then i'll be uploading again | 06:14 |
| Riddell | sebas: it never rains in Edinburgh, that's what we have Glasgow for | 06:14 |
| Riddell | sebas: ooh, cookl | 06:14 |
| sebas | Riddell: Heh | 06:14 |
| imbrandon_ | lol | 06:14 |
| sebas | Is that why aKademy is in Glasgow? | 06:14 |
| sebas | I think we had enough rain ... | 06:15 |
| nixternal | ooh new beryl of crap! i know a few people who will wet their pants with that news | 06:16 |
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| imbrandon_ | yup and aquamarine ( the kde kwin replacement ) shouldent segfault now either :) | 06:18 |
| nixternal | i have a guy on Ubuntu Chicago that is a freaking fanatic of beryl | 06:18 |
| ryanakca | lol | 06:18 |
| jdong | does the kicker/pager react properly to switching desktops yet? | 06:18 |
| nixternal | i think every other hour i am quoted for telling him "composite is crap" | 06:19 |
| imbrandon_ | bleh, i could honestly care less aobut it, but no one else wanted to package it corectly and i did it for the last few releases sooo | 06:19 |
| === ryanakca tried beryl... I liked it... just slowed my computer down too much | ||
| === jdong has computers that run beryl just fine | ||
| jdong | and I've not spent > $30USD for any of my video cards :) | 06:19 |
| === nixternal tried beryl, and all of a sudden got the urge to either slit his wrists or go buy ms vista (both serve no purpose) | ||
| imbrandon_ | anything that dosent use onboard video and is over 2.5ghz, under that its a no go | 06:20 |
| jdong | Sempron64 2800+ & Geforce4 MX400 is my lowest box running beryl | 06:20 |
| imbrandon_ | running and useable are totaly diffrent | 06:20 |
| imbrandon_ | ;) | 06:20 |
| nixternal | hehe | 06:21 |
| nixternal | bingo buddy | 06:21 |
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| nixternal | useable and useful are totally different as well | 06:21 |
| nixternal | there is nothing useful about beryl | 06:21 |
| jdong | :) | 06:21 |
| jdong | it was simpler to set up than compiz for me | 06:21 |
| imbrandon_ | bah there are some nice things aobut it, but not much | 06:21 |
| jdong | that was my excuse :) | 06:21 |
| fdoving | beryl is usefull, it can convert users to linux. :) | 06:21 |
| imbrandon_ | jdong, its exactly the same as compiz to setup | 06:21 |
| fdoving | .. those who like that kind of stuff... :) | 06:22 |
| imbrandon_ | i mean exaclty | 06:22 |
| jdong | imbrandon_: compiz refuses to start on one of my boxes | 06:22 |
| nixternal | fdoving: and then it can send right back to windows after their 300 crashes or bug reports as well | 06:22 |
| jdong | maybe I should attempt a newer compiz | 06:22 |
| imbrandon_ | nixternal, actualy its stablized a tad , still buggy as hell but ALOT better than when i was at UDS | 06:22 |
| nixternal | i don't know, just doesn't appeal to me | 06:23 |
| imbrandon_ | but then again imho kwin is buggy and un useable too , so its evil either way you go | 06:23 |
| imbrandon_ | imho | 06:23 |
| nixternal | reminds me of the kids who put $15k into their Hondas and still run slower than a station wagon | 06:23 |
| crimsun | but it's -shiny-! | 06:23 |
| imbrandon_ | thats what great about linux, choice, just choose not to run it, i may run it i may not, depends on the day and machine | 06:24 |
| nixternal | crimsun: my grandfather always told me that it is a waste of time polishing a turd, so no shiny for me :) | 06:24 |
| imbrandon_ | but i dont bash it for the sake to bash it | 06:24 |
| nixternal | i do :) | 06:24 |
| nixternal | haha | 06:24 |
| imbrandon_ | i bash it because it suxors | 06:24 |
| imbrandon_ | :) | 06:24 |
| === nixternal will wait for kwin to do it for him | ||
| imbrandon_ | nixternal, the funny thing is if you have ever tried to program a theme for kwin its just as much hell | 06:25 |
| imbrandon_ | ;) | 06:25 |
| imbrandon_ | its just been arround longer | 06:25 |
| nixternal | oh i have TRIED :) | 06:25 |
| nixternal | hehe | 06:25 |
| imbrandon_ | anyhow back to my esx install | 06:26 |
| imbrandon_ | bbiab | 06:26 |
| nixternal | no way, another school shooting in the US! | 06:26 |
| nixternal | jeesh | 06:26 |
| imbrandon_ | yea the kid died on the way to the hospital | 06:26 |
| nixternal | that sucks | 06:26 |
| imbrandon_ | anyhow brb | 06:26 |
| Jucato | :O | 06:27 |
| nixternal | i used to love the fist fights and hair pulling back when i went to high school. now you have to wear a bullet proof vest and pack | 06:27 |
| nixternal | the stoners every now and then would pull a knife, but didn't know how to use them half of the time | 06:27 |
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| Zerlinna | Riddell: is the date for the next meeting definit (january 11th 12:00 UTC) ? | 06:44 |
| Riddell | Zerlinna: nope | 06:50 |
| Zerlinna | Riddell: ok thanks | 06:51 |
| Riddell | Zerlinna: any plans for a Kubuntu stall at linuxtag this year? | 07:03 |
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| mhb | hmm, 12:00 UTC is not a good time for me | 07:05 |
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| mhb | Riddell: http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/kdeqt/kde3arch/kde-i18n-howto.html <-- a useful HOWTO indeed :o) | 07:48 |
| mhb | Riddell: the result: | 07:49 |
| mhb | Riddell: KLocale::setMainCatalogue("adept"); // this loads adept.mo as the base catalog -- the HOWTO recommends to put it in main.cpp | 07:50 |
| mhb | Riddell: KGlobal::locale()->insertCatalogue(libept); // then import any secondary catalogs like libept through this method | 07:51 |
| mhb | Riddell: the results seem to be promising, I'll send you the patch after I finish some other stuff | 07:52 |
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| fdoving | oh my, i'm already in love with the new run command dialog in kde4. | 08:03 |
| bddebian | heh | 08:05 |
| Riddell | mhb: excellent | 08:06 |
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| yuriy | hah i see the bug mail came through | 08:20 |
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| Lure | Riddell: any news regarding digikamimageplugins? | 08:39 |
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| jdong | whee, ktorrent 2.1rc1 :) | 09:32 |
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| jdong | can someone sponsor http://buntudot.org/people/~jdong/ktorrent/2.1rc1/ktorrent_2.1~rc1-0ubuntu1.dsc into feisty? | 09:57 |
| jdong | tested and confirmed working in pbuilder and chroot | 09:58 |
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| crimsun | Uploading via ftp ktorrent_2.1~rc1-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done. | 10:08 |
| crimsun | Successfully uploaded packages. | 10:08 |
| jdong | crimsun: thanks! :) | 10:14 |
| jdong | and I promise this one won't harm baby jesus | 10:14 |
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| mhb | imbrandon: what version of beryl have you packaged? | 11:14 |
| fdoving | 0.1.2 i guess. | 11:20 |
| fdoving | http://imbrandon.com/packages/dists/feisty/beryl/ | 11:20 |
| mhb | fdoving: that's what I thought too, but current beryl version seems to be 0.1.4 | 11:21 |
| fdoving | hum.. | 11:22 |
| fdoving | i'm not up2date on beryl. might try to get it to work on ppc+dualscreen some time. | 11:23 |
| fdoving | i have 0.1.1, works on one monitor, not both. | 11:24 |
| mhb | fdoving: I have 0.1.1 too, but I have some issues with rendering on my Intel card, so I wanted to test the newest one | 11:26 |
| ryanakca | jdong: so you got ktorrent working, eh? | 11:27 |
| praetor | i couldn't get 0.1.3 to work on dual-screen | 11:27 |
| jdong | ryanakca: credit goes to Tonio for working ktorrent :) | 11:36 |
| jdong | I just updated his work to rc1, released today | 11:36 |
| jdong | now ktorrent can find lan peers via zeroconf and also exchange peers with utorrent | 11:37 |
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| ryanakca | nice | 11:39 |
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| mhb | imbrandon: thanks for the beryl - it seems 0.1.2 fixed the only bug that was bothering me | 12:01 |
| Riddell | Lure: good question, let me ask | 12:10 |
| nixternal | Lure: i added my keys to your wiki page btw | 12:12 |
| nixternal | some of the keys don't provide numbers :( | 12:12 |
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