[02:48] <bddebian> Boo
[02:49] <nixternal> Heya
[02:49] <bddebian> I'm soo confused :)
[02:50] <nixternal> hehe
[04:10] <TLE> Hey everybody. I'm trying to triage bug 72379. It should be really easy to confirm but I need a 64 bit installation to do it.
[04:10] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 72379 in openoffice.org "Can't drag cells in OpenOffice.org Calc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72379
[04:11] <TLE> The bug is reported on a 64 bit edgy, the first time on an upgraded version from dapper and the second time installed from an alternate cd.
[04:12] <TLE> So it would be nice to test it with one of those options, but also just on a regular 64 edgy install.
[04:13] <TLE> So does anybody have like 2 minutes to spare ?
[04:14] <somerville32> I'm 32bit, sorry
[04:23] <TLE> Oh by the way I have a question. Can I have a bug assigned to med even though I'm not yet in the QA team ?
[04:36] <TLE> Oh never mind that, I just couldn't fint the function. It's all good now
[11:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> is debootstrap only working with ubuntu a bug or a feature?
[11:16] <lifeless> wrong channel
[11:17] <lifeless> thats a question for -devel or -motu
[11:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok, i'll try -motu, thanks
[11:28] <giskard> ciao
[01:27] <Hobbsee> palski: ping?
[01:47] <palski> Hobbsee: pong :)
[01:47] <Hobbsee> palski: heya.  youv'e got some patches on u-u-s that were incorrect, that you were going to fix.  have you done so yet?  :)
[01:48] <palski> hmmm, what patches?
[01:49] <Hobbsee> palski: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kopete/+bug/68442 for one
[01:50] <palski> was that incorrect?
[01:52] <Hobbsee> yeah, you're patching the source directly
[01:53] <palski> there was no patching system in that package
[01:53] <Hobbsee> add it
[01:53] <palski> well someone said that it should not be added
[01:54] <Hobbsee> not for a previous release, no
[01:54] <Hobbsee> but for the next ones...
[01:55] <Hobbsee> palski: was that the "dont change the build system for a stable release" discussion?
[01:57] <palski> Hobbsee: no, I added a patching system to some package (dont remember which) and somebody said I have to remove. Then I asked about this ubuntu open week and answer was that I should not add any patching system if the fix is simple.
[01:57] <Hobbsee> hrm...
[01:57] <Hobbsee> i mean, once you have one patch, you tend to need another, etc
[02:00] <neutrinomass> can somebody please take a look at bug 77413 and see if it was rightly marked as a dupe ?
[02:00] <Hobbsee> bug 77413
[02:00] <Hobbsee> Seveas: looks like Ubugtu's dead
[02:01] <palski> Hobbsee: it was pitti who said that
[02:01] <palski> 20:36 < pitti> palski: if it's an one-line patch, the delta for the patch system would be much bigger than the patch itself
[02:02] <palski> 20:36 < pitti> i. e. harder to merge with Debian
[02:02] <palski> 20:36 < pitti> palski: but if there are more patches, or a larger one, then adding the three lines to debian/rules (plus the buid depdendency) can't hurt
[02:02] <Hobbsee> right, true
[02:03] <Hobbsee> it would...but i'd still consider it easier than modifying the source, then having to merge that....
[02:04] <Hobbsee> neutrinomass: that shouldnt be a dupe
[02:05] <neutrinomass> Hobbsee: Thanks a lot... I was a bit reluctant to do that given it's my bug in the first place :)
[02:06] <Hobbsee> palski: have you sent that to the kopete-meanwhile guy?
[02:06] <Hobbsee> palski: my main concern is that that will be lost in merging, most likely
[02:06] <Hobbsee> where a patch is harder to miss
[02:08] <palski> Hobbsee: probably I haven't :(
[02:09] <Hobbsee> !revu
[02:09] <ubotu> REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU
[02:15] <Hobbsee> !sru
[02:15] <ubotu> Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates for main and restricted, while https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU is for universe and multiverse.
[02:16] <palski> Hobbsee: now I have
[02:16] <Hobbsee> palski: :)
[02:26] <dthacker> bug #77768
[02:29] <dthacker> Hi.  I'm leaning towards rejecting 77768 as a feature request.  Would someone take a peek and see if they agree?
[02:36] <neutrinomass> dthacker: Why do you want to reject it? Looks like a reasonable request ...
[02:37] <neutrinomass> dthacker: Unless you meant "tell the user to write a spec" .... a spec is probably not ideal for this as this concerns upstream stuff, not ubuntu-specific.... imho this should be forwarded to upstream beagle developers ...
[02:37] <dthacker> I ask because I'm new.  What criteria do you use to decide when a request should pass through?
[02:39] <dthacker> Should I ask him to open a bug upstream as well?
[02:39] <neutrinomass> dthacker: Well, generally it goes like: If this is something that is related to Ubuntu and not the upstream software, write a spec (this is usually the case when many upstream packages are affected in a similar way, when new software has to be written etc.). If it is a feature request about a specific package, then unless it's a  totally unreasonable request , let the upstream developers decide.
[02:40] <neutrinomass> dthacker: It would be better if you would forward it upstream (what's the point of users filing bugs in launchpad if we then have them report bugs upstream as well)..... if you can't be bothered, I'll do that for you :p
[02:42] <dthacker> no problem, I can get it forwarded.
[02:43] <neutrinomass> dthacker: Great!
[02:43] <palski> Hobbsee: and now the fix is in upstream developer source tree :)
[02:48] <Hobbsee> palski: woot :)  going to package the new version?
[02:50] <palski> He didn't say that
[02:57] <dthacker> neutrinomass: ping
[02:58] <neutrinomass> dthacker: at your service :-)
[03:00] <dthacker> I'm not sure how to fill in the "Add affected product to bug" section. Do I use the latest beagle in Feisty or what was in Edgy or .....?
[03:02] <neutrinomass> dthacker: In upstream bugzilla ?
[03:03] <dthacker> no, on malone.   I've opened http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=392307 on upstream bugzilla already
[03:03] <Ubugtu> Gnome bug 392307 in General "Beagle should not store indexes in users home directory" [Normal,Unconfirmed] 
[03:03] <neutrinomass> ahh ok
[03:03] <neutrinomass> "also affects upstream" -> product: beagle -> <add the link there>
[03:03] <neutrinomass> usually you don't need to enter the 'product' but in this case beagle apparently has not been registered with LP
[03:05] <dthacker> I'm getting the error the LP does not know beagle.  Is that ok?
[03:05] <neutrinomass> dthacker: yeah, I guess so...
[03:06] <ogra> are you at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug ? or whgere do you try to file it ?
[03:06] <ogra> beagle surely has a sourcepackage in ubuntu and thus should be foiund there
[03:06] <neutrinomass> ogra: adding an upstream task for beagle, which hasn't been registered with kp
[03:06] <ogra> *found
[03:06] <neutrinomass> *lp
[03:06] <ogra> right, first file an ubuntu bug and then add the task
[03:07] <ogra> (and connect it to an upstream bug or whatever you want)
[03:07] <dthacker> ah, there it is (via search) and I've attached correctly.
[03:07] <neutrinomass> dthacker: yep, it's ok :) well done !
[03:08] <dthacker> tnx
[03:12] <Hobbsee> hey ogra
[03:12] <dthacker> neutrinomass and ogra: tnx for your help
[04:00] <bddebian> Boo
[04:00] <marnanel> boo
[04:00] <ogra> bee
[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77843 in hotkey-setup (main) "hotkeys not working on Samsung P10 laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77843
[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77844 in kde-guidance (main) "displayconfig-restore.py can crash kde login with ZeroDivisionError" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77844
[08:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77847 in linux-meta (main) "kernel 2.6.20-3.4 not bootable on amd64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77847
[08:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77849 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "acx driver in feisty doesn't support wireless extensions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77849
[08:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69041 in beagle (main) "Beagle: German translation incomplete" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/69041
[08:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77850 in Ubuntu "Random White-Out after a few minutes of use (Feisty Herd 1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77850
[08:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77852 in gossip-telepathy (universe) "No desktop file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77852
[08:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77851 in gnome-launch-box (universe) "crash when typing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77851
[08:47] <yuriy> ping sfllaw
[08:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75408 in gdm (main) "Stopping GDM - Could spy the root password" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/75408
[08:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #76361 in Ubuntu "KDE minipager not saving settings " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/76361
[08:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77854 in hal (main) "Feiya DAP not recognized as DAP" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77854
[09:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77855 in silky (universe) "silky does not respond" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77855
[09:12] <Seveas> sfllaw, this time backlog won't be displayed in the channel - launchpad broke ubugtu
[09:13] <Seveas> but new bug reports are flowing in again
[09:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77857 in Ubuntu "no floppy in the drive crashed installer (grub-install fd0)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77857
[09:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77858 in foff (universe) "Crash when changing to folder" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77858
[09:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77859 in firefox (main) "Firefox: saved passwords causes crash with Mailman admin page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77859
[09:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77860 in Ubuntu "no updates  no repositories" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77860
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77861 in kdesvn (universe) "libsvnqt2 is not in the repository, but kdesvn depends on it." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77861
[09:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77862 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "program crash on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77862
[09:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77863 in ubiquity "installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77863
[09:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77864 in Ubuntu "theme crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77864
[10:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77865 in gcc-4.1 (main) "-nostdlib should imply -fno-stack-protector" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77865
[10:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77866 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "BUG: scheduling while atomic: hald-addon-stor/" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77866
[10:07] <Nafallo> hmm
[10:07] <Nafallo> looks like a bug I've had.
[10:07] <Nafallo> have even
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77867 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "ACPI: EC: evaluating _Q09 spam in dmesg" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77867
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77868 in Ubuntu "QTDIR not set properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77868
[10:35] <sfllaw> Seveas: Hurray!
[10:35] <sfllaw> Seveas: Thanks for your update.
[10:39] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77869 in Ubuntu "no menu icon for basket application" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77869
[10:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77870 in gnash (universe) "GNASH SEGFAULT in Firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77870
[11:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77871 in Ubuntu "[Sync request] Sync sonata from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77871
[11:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77872 in apport (main) "apport-gtk crash (on_button_reportbug_clicked)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77872
[11:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77873 in speedcrunch (main) "Speedcrunch segfault after equal, backspace, evaluate, operator" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77873
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77874 in frozen-bubble (universe) "After Update, Program Crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77874
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77875 in kdeadmin (main) "ksysv "start at boot" does not know about rcS.d" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77875
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77876 in python2.4 (main) "Python 2.4 crash when run Bittornado" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77876
[11:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77879 in glibc (main) "iconv man page is not formatted properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77879
[12:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77881 in samba (main) "Samba 3.023d installs on Feisty, but NO smbmount no smbclient" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77881