[12:03] <cafuego_> gnomefreak: make the netsplit go away!
[12:03] <gnomefreak> maddash: netsplit
[12:03] <maddash> seveas see?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> lol cafuego_ :)
[12:03] <cafuego_> gnomefreak: thanks! ;-)
[12:03] <vlt> normmac: Now the prompt should have changed from "$" to "#".
[12:03] <Seveas> !netsplit | maddash
[12:03] <HymnToLife> !netsplit | maddash
[12:03] <ubotu> maddash: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[12:03] <HymnToLife> ow
[12:03] <logivision> thoreauputic: okay I think i got it. so a tarball is just like a zip file ?
[12:03] <maddash> seveas, gnomefreak: oh, sorry.
[12:03] <TheGateKeeper> tirus89, how did you format your disk?
[12:03] <Kesman> thoreauputic: ok, in the readme of the file it says "compiling: ./config , make , make install"
[12:03] <thoreauputic> logivision: try right click, extract
[12:03] <normmac> vlt ok done
[12:03] <Kesman> thoreauputic: when I type make, it does nothing
[12:03] <eyalw> Agent_137: i'm leaving now, thanks alot : )
[12:03] <Kesman> thoreauputic: maybe I'm missing something :P
[12:03] <Agent_137> eyalw, hope i helped.
[12:03] <maddash> seveas, gnomefreak: I'm relatively new to this irc stuff...but I've gone through about 5 of these #ubuntu attack already
[12:03] <kitche> maddash: do this /ignore #ubuntu +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS will make it easier for you :)
[12:03] <jewbilee> does anyone know a way to make the icons on GAIM smaller/
[12:03] <vlt> unload ndiswrapper: `rmmod ndiswrapper`
[12:03] <thoreauputic> Kesman: you need the build-essential package
[12:03] <tirus89> TheGateKeeper, i used Cute Partition and deleted the partitions
[12:03] <maddash> kitche: thanks. again.
[12:03] <Seveas> maddash, it isn't an attack
[12:03] <Seveas> maddash, it's a server malfunction
[12:03] <thoreauputic> logivision: a tarball is like a zip, sort of , yes
[12:03] <vlt> normmac: If there's no output it worked, otherwise no such module was loaded before.
[12:03] <maddash> seveas: roger that.
[12:03] <nubbins> ignore #ubuntu +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS
[12:03] <Polysics> solved the pgp problem: apparently the first mirror is dead, but with nslookup i got the second and got the key off it with the ip
[12:03] <Kesman> thoreauputic: I have it
[12:03] <Polysics> just so you know :-)
[12:03] <Seveas> nubbins, put a / in front of that :)
[12:03] <gnomefreak> dont forget the /
[12:03] <nubbins> lol
[12:03] <Kesman> thoreauputic: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[12:03] <tirus89> TheGateKeeper, now what?
[12:03] <chris99> Hi I have been trying to configure the wireless card on my IBM laptop all day but no luck, tried Ubunutu wiki and help pages found googlig, still no luck. Would anyone like to help me config this from scratch?  Am using Edgy distro, had no problems with previous Hoary
[12:03] <normmac> vlt ERROR: Module ndiswrapper does not exist in /proc/modules
[12:03] <thoreauputic> Kesman: is there a configure script in the dir? Did you run it?
[12:03] <evildrummer> How can I change what starts up from terminal?
[12:03] <Kesman> yes
[12:03] <logivision> thoreauputic: The ReadMe says I have to Make it
[12:03] <Kesman> thoreauputic: wait a sec
[12:03] <thoreauputic> !compile
[12:03] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:03] <brainformat> ubuntu-hr
[12:03] <maddash> Seveas: are you the owner of that little tutorial on fglrx?
[12:03] <logivision> thoreauputic:  how do i go about "making" it
[12:03] <Seveas> maddash, no
[12:03] <gnomefreak> Seveas: is there an easy way to debug initramfs-tool causing a fail to boot without any errors
[12:03] <Seveas> gnomefreak, not that I know of
[12:03] <gnomefreak> i was afraid of that
[12:03] <maddash> seveas: this (http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/dists/dapper-seveas/drivers/) isn't yours?
[12:03] <thoreauputic> logivision: *sigh* read ubotu's link about compile
[12:03] <gnomefreak> ty
[12:03] <logivision> thoreauputic:  sorry, it's my seond day
[12:03] <TheGateKeeper> tirus89, well if you have no partitions you probable need to select manual partitioning create a swap 2x size of your RAM and ext3 partition, see if that works any better
[12:03] <logivision> !ubotu compile
[12:03] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:03] <normmac> vlt did you get my last post?
[12:03] <thoreauputic> !compile > logivision
[12:03] <Seveas> maddash, that's not a tutorial :)_
[12:03] <evildrummer> How can I change what starts up from terminal?
[12:03] <logivision> thoreauputic:  my way worked too!
[12:03] <tirus89> TheGateKeeper, got a program with a bootable cd for that?
[12:03] <logivision> !compile
[12:03] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:03] <logivision> !ubotu compile
[12:03] <iratsu> what does enabling LAN printer detection do?
[12:03] <thoreauputic> logivision: compling on your second day is probably not a good idea :)
[12:03] <logivision> or mabe not...lol
[12:03] <logivision> thoreauputic: haha, i have no choice, it's a project for work.
[12:03] <NaPsTeR> only when i play music the sound is messed
[12:03] <NaPsTeR> wat can i do?
[12:03] <TheGateKeeper> tirus89, yep gparted liveCD http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[12:03] <vlt> normmac: What happens when `modprobe ndiswrapper`?
[12:03] <brainformat> hi! i have one big problem. i have installed ubuntu 6.04 on my hp laptop, but it doesn't want to start gdm... how can i set it up? 10x
[12:03] <tirus89> TheGateKeeper, wait, i got a prog
[12:03] <gnomefreak> 6.04?
[12:03] <PatrickMay16> brainformat, what happens when it tries to start gdm?
[12:03] <__Ace__> why isnt the same .screenrc loaded in ubuntu6.10 when its just coming from 6.06?
[12:03] <tirus89> TheGateKeeper, what do I want, Swap or Ext2/Ext3Reiser?
[12:03] <normmac> vlt i'll do it again
[12:03] <jbinder> http://www.youtube.com/stream?s=47120385
[12:03] <NaPsTeR> someone plz help
[12:03] <TheGateKeeper> tirus89, swap & ext3
[12:03] <__Ace__> whats up with that annoyance?
[12:03] <chris99> anyone know how get wireless card working in Edgy, seems to be a common problem amongst Edgy users, I have generic card and laptop but cannot get it to work
[12:03] <__Ace__> stupid screen
[12:03] <TheGateKeeper> tirus89, I got to go, sure the others would help
[12:04] <ikonia> define generi card
[12:04] <jewbilee> I need help with the configure step of compiling Software, I've untarred the files, but I cant figure out what to do with configure
[12:04] <normmac> FATAL ERROR inserting ndiswrapper invalid argument
[12:04] <TheGateKeeper> tirus89, most linux distros use ext3 these days
[12:04] <Polysics> wow, compiz is good .-P
[12:04] <tirus89> TheGateKeeper, so just ext3?
[12:05] <NaPsTeR> i reallyu need help
[12:05] <tirus89> TheGateKeeper, and how much should I partition it
[12:05] <jewbilee> I need help with the configure step of compiling Software, I've untarred the files, but I cant figure out what to do with configure
[12:05] <TheGateKeeper> tirus89, swap x2 of your RAM & the rest ext3 should be good
[12:05] <normmac> vlt i have to go eat diner i'll be back
[12:05] <tirus89> TheGateKeeper, ok
[12:05] <thoreauputic> jewbilee:  ./configure in teh directory it made
[12:05] <ikonia> jewbilee: you where just given a link
[12:05] <kitche> jewbilee: ./configure is what you just run will install to /usr/local/bin usually
[12:05] <jewbilee> it says No Such File or Directory
[12:06] <NaPsTeR> i am completely stuck. plz will someone help me
[12:06] <thoreauputic> jewbilee: read the README or INSTALL file
[12:06] <arkanhell> i need help plis... not open folder /.wine/  ....   bash: cd: /.wine/: No existe el fichero  directorio (in spanish plis XD lol)
[12:06] <theflyingfool> is disabilying ipv6 worth it or just superstiion
[12:06] <ikonia> NaPsTeR: stop asking
[12:06] <bimberi> !sound | NaPsTeR
[12:06] <ubotu> NaPsTeR: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:06] <kitche> jewbilee: what is this source code for?
[12:06] <thoreauputic> !es
[12:06] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:06] <n2diy> !es
[12:07] <cafuego_> arkanhell: ~/.wine. not /.wine/
[12:07] <arkanhell> grax
[12:07] <n2diy> ! es
[12:07] <n2diy> ! spanish
[12:07] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:07] <jewbilee> I've read the readme and it doesnt contain anything of use
[12:08] <ikonia> jewbilee: you where sent a readme on how to build software
[12:08] <thoreauputic> n2diy:  ubotu didn't respond to !es because I just triggered it before you
[12:08] <ikonia> the URL explained it
[12:08] <tirus89> What boot flag do i want first, ext3 or swap?
[12:08] <jewbilee> ikonia: yea, i know, and the configure step isnt working
[12:08] <iratik> Still Failed ... after running ./install.sh -u
[12:08] <n2diy> thoreauputic: ah, I was wondering what was 'wrong'?
[12:08] <ikonia> jewbilee: show me the output of "pwd"
[12:08] <thoreauputic> jewbilee: tha's unusual - is there a configure script in the dir?
[12:08] <logivision> how do  you log into root...
[12:08] <iratik> Initializing LDAP...Failed (256) Any Ideas?
[12:08] <theflyingfool> do most people disable ipv6?
[12:08] <iratik> logivision: sudo -s
[12:09] <arkanhell> cafuego  cd  ~/.wine. bash: cd: /home/arkanhell/.wine.: No existe el fichero  directorio :(
[12:09] <kitche> theflyingfool: yes it slows down net if you don't use it
[12:09] <rickympl> my keyboard volume control keys don't control the sound, even if i change the channel and sound card on the preferences in the panel icon
[12:09] <logivision> iratik: thanks@
[12:09] <jewbilee> ikonia: /home/ian     but I cant find the dirrectory that untarring it made
[12:09] <tirus89> help, what do i want to boot flag first, ext3 or swap??????
[12:09] <ikonia> you probably didn't untar it
[12:09] <bimberi> theflyingfool: mostly if there are network performance issues
[12:09] <ikonia> tar untaring it again
[12:09] <iratik> I've already tried the main IP and the LAN ip address in hosts ... none made a difference
[12:09] <thoreauputic> jewbilee: you need to find the directory :)
[12:09] <n2diy> ! spanish | arkanhell
[12:09] <ubotu> arkanhell: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:09] <ikonia> you won't find a configure script in your homedir
[12:09] <jewbilee> ikonia: i have
[12:09] <jewbilee> ikonia: where would I find it?
[12:09] <ikonia> what command are you using to untar it
[12:10] <ikonia> you've not even read the URL you where sent
[12:10] <jewbilee> tar -zvxf
[12:10] <thoreauputic> jewbilee: the dir name is usually similar to the tarball name
[12:10] <jewbilee> ikonia: i did read ;)
[12:10] <ikonia> then you'll know what to do
[12:10] <paul_> hi guys
[12:10] <bimberi> ikonia: whoa there.  say it to yourself :)
[12:10] <logivision> Anybody willing to take me through the steps of installing a program from source? (making it!)
[12:10] <thoreauputic> jewbilee: it isn't magic :) You have to cd to the directory that has the configure script in it
[12:11] <brainformat> it says that gdm isn't set and to set it up
[12:11] <brainformat> but i don't know how...
[12:11] <paul_> I'm making audio cd's on linux cuzz i have nothing better to do
[12:11] <paul_> lol
[12:11] <jewbilee> thoreauputic: i figured but i cant find the directory, where would it be?
[12:11] <maddash> brainformat: sudo aptitude install gdm?
[12:11] <ikonia> bimberi: just frustating "help me help me help me" sure heres a URL "what do I do, what do I do"
[12:11] <brainformat> i'll try...
[12:11] <postal> this may be a noob question but i was wondering if there were any tutorials on setting up a simple dual boot system with ubunutu
[12:11] <ikonia> thoreauputic: the url I sent him explains all that
[12:11] <ikonia> the one he's read
[12:11] <ikonia> in less than 30 seconds
[12:12] <maddash> postal: it's trivial. what do you need?
[12:12] <paul_> 30
[12:12] <paul_> 29
[12:12] <paul_> 28
[12:12] <thoreauputic> jewbilee: when you ran tar xvzf tarballname.tar.gz did you see a lot of stuff scroll by ?
[12:12] <paul_> 27
[12:12] <paul_> 26
[12:12] <paul_> 25
[12:12] <paul_> 24
[12:12] <maddash> uh
[12:12] <paul_> 23
[12:12] <kitche> ikonia: it's also annoying for people to think that some people can understand just by reading\
[12:12] <maddash> stop spamming
[12:12] <paul_> 22
[12:12] <ikonia> postal: there is a good one on the wiki
[12:12] <paul_> 21
[12:12] <paul_> 20
[12:12] <LameBMX> !dualboot
[12:12] <tirus89> stop spamming
[12:12] <paul_> 19
[12:12] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[12:12] <tonyKUN> i did it! Ubuntu installation complete! =D
[12:12] <paul_> 18
[12:12] <jewbilee> thoerauputic: yes, all the files
[12:12] <kitche> !ops
[12:12] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[12:12] <paul_> 17
[12:12] <ikonia> paul_: shut up
[12:12] <paul_> 16
[12:12] <maddash> good god
[12:12] <paul_> 15
[12:12] <paul_> 141
[12:12] <postal> Gracias ubotu!
[12:12] <tirus89> stop spamming
[12:12] <maddash> milla de grazie!
[12:12] <ikonia> kitche: yeah, I know, but say that rather than "I've read it"
[12:12] <LameBMX> !op
[12:12] <PatrickMay16> postal: I found a site on google that seems to have an ubuntu/windows dual boot setup guide
[12:12] <iratsu> !printing
[12:12] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:12] <LameBMX> !ops
[12:12] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[12:13] <maddash> uh
[12:13] <PatrickMay16> http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/ There's the link if you still need it
[12:13] <LameBMX> well its always worth a try lol
[12:13] <ikonia> iratsu: who asked for help with printing
[12:13] <tritium> LameBMX: ?
[12:13] <maddash> don't abuse ops...
[12:13] <kitche> LameBMX: your kinda late there eh :)
[12:13] <postal> thanks PatrickMay16
[12:13] <maddash> he's gone lol
[12:13] <LameBMX> sorry had to try
[12:13] <Seveas> don't
[12:13] <iratsu> ikonia: i did
[12:13] <LameBMX> its in my nature .. i cant help it
[12:13] <Seveas> next time will be a ban
[12:14] <LameBMX> its cool .. im not gonna try and take over the chan or anything
[12:14] <tirus89> install wont work, i get a black screen with "*Preparing restricted drivers"
[12:14] <maddash> you realize that banning would do nothing if the abuser were using dial-up or something, rah?
[12:14] <ikonia> LameBMX: then why do Ops ?
[12:14] <LameBMX> ikonia, my nature ... if a button says dont press this .. i press it ... insatiable curiosity
[12:14] <Seveas> maddash, we are creative banners ;)
[12:14] <ikonia> then you should be banned
[12:14] <LameBMX> what do you think drew me to linux
[12:14] <kitche> jewbilee: join #kitchetech and I'll walk you though compiling that exact program
[12:14] <LameBMX> lol
[12:15] <theflyingfool> why doesnt edgy include the gnome partion manager but dapper did
[12:15] <tirus89> can someone help me, install wont work
[12:15] <logivision> How do you run the "make" command to make a program?
[12:15] <alex-weej> theflyingfool: install it
[12:15] <ikonia> tirus89: whats the problem
[12:15] <Seveas> !make | logivision
[12:15] <ubotu> logivision: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:15] <arkanhell> cafuego, Thank you very much, you have solved my problem, it was a mistake of syntax
[12:15] <theflyingfool> tirus: did you check your disc for defects
[12:15] <ikonia> logivision: the wiki has a guide to making software from source
[12:15] <Seveas> LOQUILLO_, a new Ubuntu release ;)
[12:15] <logivision> Seveas: i'm reading that, it doesn't help very much !!
[12:15] <brainformat> maddash: it said -  action "reload"failed
[12:15] <alex-weej> !gparted | theflyingfool
[12:15] <ubotu> theflyingfool: gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[12:15] <maddash> has anyone ever managed to get fglrx working on breezy? and I'm not talking about the caveman version from ubuntu repos (ver 8.16.20, I think)
[12:15] <chris99> anyone know how to get Edgy to recognise my wireless card (IBM laptop), instructions in Ubuntu wiki didnt help or googling info, thanks
[12:15] <thoreauputic> logivision: you have been told to read that URL at least 3 times....
[12:15] <alex-weej> !ntfsprogs | theflyingfool
[12:15] <brainformat> compax nx6310
[12:15] <ubotu> ntfsprogs: tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 1.12.1-1 (edgy), package size 205 kB, installed size 532 kB
[12:16] <maddash> brainformat: do you have synaptic?
[12:16] <logivision> thoreauputic:  and i've read it over and over and it's not helping
[12:16] <tirus89> ikonia, the install wont work and i partitioned the drive with 1012mb of swap and the rest with ext3 like TheGateKeeper said and i tried installing and it wont work.
[12:16] <logivision> thoreauputic:  that's why i've been asking for help to go through it
[12:16] <maddash> brainformat: in a command-line, type in "sudo synaptic"
[12:16] <ikonia> define won't work
[12:16] <daniel1988> hi everyone! uname -r gives this: 2.6.17-10-generic. $ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx >> The following NEW packages will be installed:  linux-image-2.6.17-10-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386 nvidia-glx.... why it tries to install another kernel? or what?
[12:16] <ikonia> logivision: its a long URL
[12:16] <thoreauputic> logivision: then google "compiling linux howto " ;p
[12:16] <ikonia> you've only taken about 2 minutes to read it
[12:16] <brainformat> ok
[12:17] <maddash> dependencies, daniel1988.
[12:17] <vlt> Hello. `tanscode -y divx5` gives me "transcode]  warning : failed to init DivX 5.0 Codec". What package do I need to create DivX 5 movies?
[12:17] <thoreauputic> logivision: if others can work it out, so can you :)
[12:17] <tirus89> ikonia, i get a ubuntu screen with a bunch of stuff OK'ed at the bottom, then i get a black screen with preparing restricted something
[12:17] <vlt> s/tanscode/trnscode/
[12:17] <vlt> f*
[12:17] <vlt> s/tanscode/transcode/
[12:17] <ikonia> you need to be exact with your error messages if you want help
[12:17] <logivision> ikonia: thoreauputic gave me the link about 10 minutes ago, and i've read through the hole thing once, then started actually trying the process. I'm not lazy, if somebody gives me a link i'm going to try it.
[12:18] <ikonia> logivision: whats the package you're trying to build ?
[12:18] <tirus89> preparing restricted drivers
[12:18] <logivision> ikonia: it's a program called No-Ip
[12:18] <thoreauputic> logivision: normally you run ./configure, then make  ( assuming no errors in the configure step)
[12:18] <brainformat> maddash: it won't start synaptic... im running it on recovery mode...
[12:18] <ikonia> tirus89: run the cd checker
[12:18] <tirus89> ikonia, ?
[12:19] <ikonia> tirus89: when you boot it there is an option to check media
[12:19] <logivision> thoreauputic: but i don't just go into terminal and type ./configure, what's the proper format ?
[12:19] <ikonia> run that
[12:19] <tirus89> ?
[12:19] <ikonia> logivision: the dynamic address client ?
[12:19] <ikonia> tirus89: boot from the cd and look at the menu options
[12:19] <ikonia> there is one to check the media
[12:19] <ikonia> run that
[12:19] <maddash> brainformat: huh? your kernel's in recov mode?
[12:19] <logivision> ikonia: http://www.no-ip.com
[12:19] <LameBMX> logivision, try nano README and nano INSTALL for directions
[12:19] <daniel1988> maddash: sure, but why it tries to install linux-image-2.6.17-10-386 if it already has installed linux-image-2.6.17-10-genteric ?
[12:19] <tirus89> oh
[12:19] <maddash> brainformat: why? what's your problem?
[12:19] <thoreauputic> logivision: oh dear - did you look for the package?
[12:20] <val__> ikonia. tried it again. same result
[12:20] <thoreauputic> !info no-ip
[12:20] <ubotu> no-ip: A second-generation Linux client for dynamic DNS service. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 128 kB
[12:20] <LameBMX> but generally make && make install
[12:20] <ikonia> val__: I can't remember your issue
[12:20] <maddash> brainformat: why are you in recov mode, I mean.
[12:20] <thoreauputic> logivision: it's in Ubuntu
[12:20] <LameBMX> or ./installer options
[12:20] <tirus89> ikonia, why would there be defects, i just got the cd today in the mail
[12:20] <Ralth> Hello!  I am running Ubuntu 6.10 on a laptop.  I can't seem to get my internal wireless network card to work.  Any suggestions?
[12:20] <ikonia> LameBMX: you should never just do that blind
[12:20] <val__> ikonia. configuring the nvidia card
[12:20] <logivision> thoreauputic: what do you mean did i look for the package ? ...please tlel me your kidding ?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> logivision: in the universe repo
[12:20] <ikonia> val__: yes, I said I didn't want to help you as you where not listening
[12:20] <logivision> thoreauputic:  did i mention i hate life ?
[12:20] <LameBMX> what read the readme and install file
[12:20] <brainformat> i have installed 6.04 and when it restarted it, it couldnt run gdm
[12:20] <vlt> tirus89: What chip?
[12:20] <ikonia> tirus89: I don't know - just check it
[12:20] <maddash> daniel1988: there's a package called "linux-image-[...] -generic"?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> logivision: enable universe, use the package manager
[12:20] <bimberi> !info no-ip
[12:20] <vlt> tirus89: sorry.
[12:21] <tirus89> vlt, intel, dont know anymore, old comp
[12:21] <ubotu> no-ip: A second-generation Linux client for dynamic DNS service. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 128 kB
[12:21] <logivision> thoreauputic: thank you.... jeez
[12:21] <thoreauputic> logivision: *always* look first in the packages
[12:21] <thoreauputic> logivision: I mean *always*
[12:21] <tirus89> vlt, intel p3
[12:21] <logivision> thoreauputic: didn't even think to, i've never heard of the program anywhere else, it's a tiny little company from what I've heard
[12:21] <PatrickMay16away> Ralth: look at the output of the "dmesg" command. Are you able to do this?
[12:21] <bimberi> oops, thoreauputic already did that (of course!)
[12:21] <vlt> Ralth: What chip?
[12:21] <LameBMX> ikonia, i said to nano README and nano INSTALL first ... then gave general options i have seen ...
[12:21] <logivision> thoreauputic:  but thanks for the tip
[12:21] <logivision> thoreauputic:  tips**
[12:21] <maddash> daniel1988: if you meant plain old  "linux-image-[...] ", it's a virtual package, I think...you still need the "linux-image-[386/686/k7/etc] "
[12:21] <grigora> does anyone know why K3B still has permission issues ? thanks
[12:21] <daniel1988> maddash: there is already installed kernel source generic, why it needs 386
[12:22] <tirus89> someone help me please....
[12:22] <daniel1988> maddash: anyway, should I let it install them?
[12:22] <Ralth> I'm not sure what chip, but it's the default dell card for the Inspiron laptops.
[12:22] <maddash> daniel1988: I don't think you have a choice...
[12:22] <brainformat> maddash:  i have installed 6.04 and when it restarted it, it couldnt run x.... now it asks me to set gdm and restart it.
[12:22] <vlt> tirus89: (That what for Ralth's internal wifi -- I read the wrong line)
[12:22] <thoreauputic> logivision: repeat after me "I shall enable the repositories and I shall always search in the package manager before compiling" ;p
[12:22] <daniel1988> maddash: ok, thx
[12:22] <vlt> Ralth: Welcome to hell. I'm on an Inspiron 6400 right now .
[12:22] <tirus89> someone help me...
[12:22] <maddash> brainformat: ok, try rebooting into the regular kernel...and try "startx"...
[12:22] <talisein> Hi, for some reason anytime I try to write anywhere up-tree from /home/, it says No space left on device, even though du reports only 10% is used
[12:22] <val__> ikonia i just followed all the instructions. dont know what to do
[12:23] <maddash> daniel1988: np.
[12:23] <Ralth> vlt - So do you have any suggestions on getting it to work?
[12:23] <ikonia> val__: why are you still talking to me after I've told you two times, you didn't listen to me, I don't want to help
[12:23] <grigora> does anyone know how to set the permissions for k3b to properly burn cds?
[12:23] <__Ace__> how do I solve this:  (13)p\r\xe5\xbf\xd0\xf6\xf7\xb73d\x05\b\xd0\x0e\xe5\xbf: exec of '/usr/lib/cgi-bin/test.pl' failed ?
[12:23] <brainformat> maddash: i have tried it. i repeats the same thing...
[12:23] <__Ace__> apache2 thing
[12:23] <ikonia> __Ace__: fix the perl script
[12:23] <tirus89> can someone help me....
[12:23] <vlt> Ralth: lspci
[12:24] <anderbubble> (edgy) what happened to the partition manager program that let you set up mount points?
[12:24] <maddash> brainformat: ok. so when you boot into the reg. kernel, you're stuck in command line, right?
[12:24] <logivision> thoreauputic: I shall enable the repositories and I shall always search in the package manager before compiling
[12:24] <ikonia> tirus89: have you done the media check
[12:24] <logivision> toreauputic: I shall enable the repositories and I shall always search in the package manager before compiling!
[12:24] <brainformat> maddash: y
[12:24] <vlt> Ralth: 0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)?
[12:24] <thoreauputic> logivision: good lad :)
[12:24] <tirus89> ikonia, yesh, and its clean
[12:24] <maddash> brainformat: if that's the case, try "sudo apt-cache update"....
[12:24] <ikonia> no you didn't
[12:24] <ikonia> man - why lie
[12:24] <Markive> hi all
[12:24] <ikonia> it takes longer than that
[12:24] <maddash> brainformat: followed by "sudo aptitude install gdm"
[12:24] <Markive> happy new year and all
[12:24] <talisein> ls
[12:24] <brainformat> maddash: ok. i will.
[12:24] <tirus89> ikonia, na, its done
[12:25] <ikonia> its it edgy ?
[12:25] <maddash> brainformat: remember, do the apt-cache update in normal mode, not recov mode
[12:25] <thoreauputic> maddash: erm, I think you meant  sudo apt-get update
[12:25] <Shocka311> does anybody know anything about creating and editing hard drive partitions using a graphic interface not console.
[12:25] <tirus89> ikonia, its draper drake
[12:25] <ikonia> Shocka311: gparted
[12:25] <maddash> brainformat, thoreauputic: it's "sudo apt-get update"
[12:25] <ikonia> tirus89: look at the boot options, try some of the safe modes
[12:25] <Ralth> vlt - I'll check that, but I have a dual boot system in windows now, so I'll be back in a bit.
[12:25] <svish> I have installed sun-java-5 with synaptics.. but when I write java --version in terminal, it says version 1.4.2? how can i fix this?
[12:25] <grigora> tirus89: draper ? dapper
[12:25] <anderbubble> Shocka311, you can use gparted. It seems to work really well.
[12:25] <IntuitiveNipple> Q: If I boot from the desktop liveCD, load dmraid to read/write SoftRAID volumes, and then install Edgy from gnome, will it install dmraid and grub such that Edgy can boot from the softRAID volume?
[12:25] <Markive> does anyone know if it posible to look in my ntfs partition on this dualboot lappy?
[12:25] <Shocka311> ikonia: what is gparted?
[12:25] <maddash> thoreauputic - good catch.
[12:25] <tirus89> grigora, sure
[12:25] <blind> I just installed a window manager from source, but im not sure how to create an entry for it in my session list for my gdm login..
[12:25] <thoreauputic> maddash: :)
[12:25] <ikonia> a graphical tool
[12:25] <ikonia> just like you asked for
[12:25] <anderbubble> however, does anyone know how to set up mount points in a gui interface?
[12:26] <vlt> Ralth: You can open windows system settings ...
[12:26] <Shocka311> how do I access it
[12:26] <talisein> Hi, creating files in /home reports "No space left on device", even though df reports only 10% is used. What's wrong?
[12:26] <ikonia> jesus
[12:26] <thoreauputic> !gparted
[12:26] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[12:26] <ikonia> you just type gparted
[12:26] <ikonia> once you've installed it
[12:26] <anderbubble> shocka311, it's not installed by default, but if you run synaptic, you can install it.
[12:26] <ikonia> or look on the gome menu
[12:26] <ikonia> gome menu
[12:26] <ikonia> gnome
[12:26] <Markive> i need to mount my ntfs partition
[12:26] <anderbubble> shocka311, it will be in the system menu then
[12:26] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[12:26] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[12:26] <Markive> somehow.. i can't find a way to see t
[12:27] <Markive> it
[12:27] <thoreauputic> Markive: see ubotu above
[12:27] <Shocka311> i will try cause it won't let me edit my HD partitions in the disks menu>
[12:27] <Markive> thanks i'll have a lookey
[12:27] <ikonia> what does it say
[12:27] <ikonia> when you try to edit
[12:27] <Shocka311> it doesn't say anything, it just doesn't give me the option.
[12:27] <MooUK> When I installed Edgy, it got all my windows partitions right first time
[12:27] <MooUK> by itself
[12:27] <MooUK> which was nice :)
[12:28] <Ralth> vlt - it's a Dell Wireless 1370 WLAN Mini-PCI Card
[12:28] <blind> how can i create an entry in my sessions list in gdm?
[12:28] <talisein> Hi, creating files in /home reports "No space left on device", even though df reports only 10% is used. What's wrong?
[12:29] <ikonia> talisein: do you have space
[12:29] <ikonia> the error messsage is pretty helpful
[12:29] <talisein> yes
[12:29] <vlt> Ralth: What does `lspci` say?
[12:29] <tirus89> !install
[12:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:29] <talisein> I have 23 free Gigs
[12:29] <ikonia> on /home ?
[12:29] <talisein> yes
[12:29] <Rprp>   ChanServ Eggdrop Global MemoServ NickServ OperServ Rprp
[12:29] <ikonia> df -h /home
[12:29] <talisein> /dev/md0               25G  2.4G   23G  10% /home
[12:29] <Ralth> vlt - I have to execute that command under linux and not windows, right?
[12:30] <Markive> man that looks hard to do
[12:30] <ikonia> touch /home/test
[12:30] <vlt> Ralth: Er, yes right ;-)
[12:30] <talisein> touch: cannot touch `test': No space left on device
[12:30] <Shocka311> Ikonia: I need to free up a little space on my master hard drive cause i'm installing windows on my slave HD but the instalation menu says I HAVE to install the startup files on my master to run the setup program, but I have to creat a win compatable partition.
[12:30] <logivision> thoreauputic: how do i enable universe,,
[12:30] <tirus89> someone help me with install
[12:30] <vlt> Ralth: Can you access network while running Linux on Dell?
[12:30] <tritium> !universe
[12:30] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:30] <ikonia> Shocka311: you have to install windows on your master drive
[12:30] <ikonia> tirus89: I told you to install from safe/recovery mode
[12:31] <tirus89> ikonia, i dont know how to do that if you dont tell me
[12:31] <ikonia> talisein: show me the mount options for /home
[12:31] <rickympl> is there any way i can change the creation or modification date of n files adding 1 month to the files date?
[12:31] <Ralth> I don't know.  I haven't tried my wired network card.  I guess I'll do that too.
[12:31] <vlt> Ralth: Maybe another machine?
[12:31] <Tigerwraith> hello all
[12:31] <Markive> is there not an easy gui type program to help me so i can see in my ntfs xp partition?
[12:31] <ikonia> tirus89: I did - look at the boot options from the cd
[12:31] <Ralth> vlt: Maybe.  I'll see what I can do. :)
[12:31] <Shocka311> Ikonia: I cant have linux on my master and win on my slave?
[12:31] <ikonia> no
[12:31] <talisein> ikonia, just ext3 defaults. mount only shows (rw)
[12:32] <tirus89> ikonia, ok, there is start, safe graphics check memory and boot hd
[12:32] <Ralth> vlt: thanks for the help!
[12:32] <Tigerwraith> lol win loves to be the master
[12:32] <Tigerwraith> doenst like shareing it with anything else
[12:32] <ikonia> talisein: nothing silly  like md0 has a dead disk so its gone read only
[12:32] <ikonia> although that error message doesn't look good
[12:32] <talisein> ikonia, mdadm reports md0 is fine
[12:32] <Tigerwraith> anyone here that can help me with a new install of 6.06 server
[12:32] <ikonia> how strange
[12:32] <talisein> i know
[12:32] <Shocka311> Ikonia: well in that case can you tell me how I can transfer all my linux software to my slave?
[12:32] <ikonia> Tigerwraith: you have to ask a question
[12:32] <ikonia> Shocka311: no - sorry
[12:32] <ikonia> Shocka311: can't be bothered
[12:33] <Markive> lol
[12:33] <tirus89> ikonia, i tried the starrt, i get a freeze, then i tried safe, i get a freeze, i checked for defects, its clean, i did a memory test, its fine, i bootted from hd, theres nothing there
[12:33] <rickympl> anyone
[12:33] <Markive> what ricky?
[12:33] <anderbubble> There used to be a graphical program (volume manager?) that let you edit your mounts. What happened to this program in edgy?
[12:33] <Tigerwraith> well im not sure what my question is, all i know is that after i install and go to boot from the HD the computer reboots itself
[12:33] <ikonia> rickympl: fugde the clock and touch them
[12:33] <ikonia> Tigerwraith: sounds like a hardware error from the VERY little info you have given
[12:34] <tirus89> ikonia, so what now?
[12:34] <ikonia> tirus89: got to be honest, I'm losing interest. If its freezing, sounds like a hardware error
[12:34] <vlt> Hello. `transcode -y divx5` gives me "[transcode]  warning : failed to init DivX 5.0 Codec". What package do I need to create DivX 5 movies?
[12:34] <andre> who i auto reconfigure xorg.conf ??
[12:34] <Markive> i need a quick easy way to view my ntfs partition on theis dualboot lappy help.
[12:34] <ikonia> try pressing alt+F2 to look at the console
[12:34] <rickympl> ikonia, the files were created on different dates, but one month behind, i wanna add a month to each file, but its a lot of files
[12:34] <ikonia> andre dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:34] <Shocka311> does anybody know if I unplug my HD's and switch my master with linux on it to my slave HD will linux still run?
[12:35] <vlt> Markive: mount -t ntfs
[12:35] <talisein>  ikonia, using tune2fs to change the reserved blocks count doesn't make any difference either.
[12:35] <ikonia> Shocka311: no it won't
[12:35] <Markive> i di'll try that
[12:35] <ikonia> talisein: that shouldn't matter, but I see what your trying
[12:35] <ExploWare[NL] > ANYONE: is there an option to disable automatic USB mouse detection? Ubuntu (xorg mouse driver) is not detecting it's X-axis, and some buttons are read as keyboard keys.
[12:35] <ExploWare[NL] > its a 9 button wireless mouse, and I want to use it as a remote control for my tv
[12:35] <Tigerwraith> im sorry ikonia im just not sure, ive installed debian before with no problems and i went through the ubuntu install just fine, but on reboot right after the boot menu goes to 0 it trys to load but then reboots ill go look and see if i can catch any errors
[12:35] <andre> ikonia, thanks!
[12:35] <Polysics> wheee! compiz is cool and much stabler :-) now to the serious business .-P
[12:35] <logivision> ikonia: toreauputic said that the no-ip was in the package thing.... but i can't find it. I think I set it to check the universe but i'm not sure if i did it right, how do you make it check the universe ?
[12:36] <vlt> Markive: Maybe it's already mounted in /media somewhere ...
[12:36] <imbecile> wb bruenig
[12:36] <Polysics> !freenx
[12:36] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[12:36] <ikonia> logivision: if you enable the univserve repo, do a apt-get update then an apt-cache search it will check universe
[12:36] <IdleOne> !universe | logivision
[12:36] <ubotu> logivision: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:36] <Markive> hmm... i'm very very new to this.. sorry
[12:36] <ikonia> talisein: what file system is on it ?
[12:37] <ikonia> are there any files on it
[12:37] <Markive> i wanna be able to stay on linux most of the time.. i just need to get in my xp folders
[12:37] <logivision> ikonia: how do you enable the universe repo ?
[12:37] <ikonia> Markive: then just mount them
[12:37] <talisein> ikonia, ext3
[12:37] <Shocka311> is there any way to run my HD with linux on it as a slave and intsall an empty one as master to run Windows???
[12:37] <ikonia> logivision: there is a graphical tool, or edit apt/sources.lst
[12:37] <vlt> Markive: No problem. What Linux/Ubuntu version are you running and did you install it after Windows?
[12:37] <ikonia> Shocka311: no
[12:37] <ikonia> told you
[12:37] <IdleOne> logivision: follow this link to enable universe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[12:38] <logivision> IdleOne: Thanks
[12:38] <logivision> ikonia: thank you too! i know i'm a pain, thanks for putting up with all my questions
[12:38] <ikonia> logivision: not a problem
[12:38] <Shocka311> then why do all these books I read say I can run them both on seprate HD's and run my PC as dual boot?
[12:38] <logivision> ikonia: luckily, i'm a ask once then remember forever type of person
[12:38] <ikonia> you ask questions that can be answered
[12:38] <Markive> i did at first, but i just reinstalled xp yesturday, got through loosing grub. etc.. that took me 6 hours off googling to fix
[12:38] <ikonia> Shocka311: you need windows to be on a master disk
[12:38] <ikonia> thats the only rule
[12:38] <MooUK> The problem people are those of us who find novel problems that nobody has a clue about :)
[12:38] <Markive> hmm
[12:39] <mikEE> hi ubuntu guys! (<--- irc n00b)
[12:39] <Markive> i think its 6.10
[12:39] <Tigerwraith> ok this is all i can see as soon as the kernel says boot the system reboots
[12:39] <ikonia> MooUK: the most common thing is that people ask crap questions
[12:39] <Markive> how do i find out
[12:39] <MooUK> ikonia: Well, that too, of course
[12:39] <LinTux> If I install KDE or XFCE my video goes out of sync at lgoin and the screen pages with mouse movement to the top or bottom along with side to side, anybody got any cures for this?
[12:39] <lufis> What happens when I press ctrl+alt+F1 and how do I get back to the gui?
[12:39] <vlt> Markive: ;-) What does `mount` say (type that into a terminal window)?
[12:39] <Markive> yup 6.10 edgy
[12:40] <vlt> Markive: (without the `` signs)
[12:40] <Markive> lots
[12:40] <Tigerwraith> errr now i know why ubuntu wont boot
[12:40] <n2diy> lufis: ctrl+alt+F7
[12:40] <Tigerwraith> its due to my cpu
[12:40] <lufis> n2diy: ok, thanks
[12:41] <ExploWare[NL] > ANYONE: is there an option to disable automatic USB mouse detection? Ubuntu (xorg mouse driver) is not detecting it's X-axis, and some buttons are read as keyboard keys.
[12:41] <Markive> in pm vlt
[12:41] <Tigerwraith> i thought my AMD K6-3 400 was 686
[12:41] <ExploWare[NL] > or better, a specific mouse, my other mouse is also USB :S
[12:41] <eve> HI
[12:42] <n2diy> ExploWare[NL] : Explore hotplug.
[12:42] <ikonia> talisein: is there any data on it
[12:42] <LinTux>  If I install KDE or XFCE my video goes out of sync at login and the screen pages with mouse movement to the top or bottom along with side to side, anybody got any cures for this?
[12:42] <kitche> Tigerwraith: k6 as 686? that's more like an i386
[12:42] <ikonia> LinTux: we saw it 25 seconds ago when you last asked
[12:42] <talisein> ikonia, sure. My Desktop, .gconf files etc
[12:42] <Tigerwraith> no wonder debian sarge worked on it
[12:43] <LinTux> ikonia: sorry m8
[12:43] <ikonia> talisein: I'm probably wrong but I want to say its got to be a read only problem with a bad error message
[12:43] <talisein> ikonia, the logs show gconf errors starting yesterday afternoon from there being no room, but there are no log messages prior to them starting
[12:43] <ikonia> have you unmounted it and fsck'd it
[12:43] <talisein> ikonia, hmm let me try
[12:43] <ikonia> I'm being a bit random
[12:43] <Ralth> vlt: I'm back, and I'm running ubuntu.  I'm connected via wired internet.
[12:44] <vlt> Ralth: Become root on a terminal: `sudo -s`
[12:44] <ExploWare[NL] > n2diy: isn't hotplug replaced by udev?
[12:44] <Ralth> vlt: done
[12:45] <n2diy> ExploWare[NL] : could be?
[12:45] <ExploWare[NL] > I couldn't  find anything there...:(
[12:45] <rickympl> ikonia, is there no way to get a files date, add 1 to the month, and touch the file with the "updated date"
[12:45] <vlt> Ralth: `lspci` and look for network, broadcom, ...
[12:45] <lufis> Is my /etc/inittab supposed to be empty? :-/
[12:45] <ikonia> rickympl: I told you what to do. Break the clock on your machine, touch all the files so they get the new date, then set the clock back
[12:45] <ikonia> you can also use touch to fake dates
[12:45] <ikonia> but thats more complex
[12:45] <ExploWare[NL] > is there a specific IRC channel where I can ask such questions?
[12:46] <Ralth> vlt: 02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[12:46] <ikonia> ExploWare[NL] : what is your question
[12:46] <wweasel> I'm having an issue with my Ubuntu ftp server. I set it up per instructions on the forum, and it works via a local ip.  After forwarding the proper port (I use 2121), it works somewhat via my WAN ip, but hangs at "List -aL" ("Receiving file names..." in gFTP)
[12:46] <ikonia> wweasel: did you open both control and data ports ?
[12:46] <rickympl> ikonia, thanks
[12:46] <vlt> Ralth: Two ways: An open source driver or the windows driver plugged in by "ndiswrapper".
[12:46] <ikonia> rickympl: no problem
[12:47] <IntuitiveNipple> Is it possible to stop ide drives being probed during boot but probe/load them from the cmd-line?
[12:47] <ExploWare[NL] > ikonia: : is there an option to disable automatic USB mouse detection? Ubuntu (xorg mouse driver) is not detecting it's X-axis, and some buttons are read as keyboard keys.
[12:47] <Ralth> vlit: which do you recommend?
[12:47] <trinitrogen> Quick question (though I realize how open ended it is), I switched to Ubuntu yesterday and installed the 32 bit version, should I have installed the 64bit version (I have an Athlon 64 3000)
[12:47] <wweasel> ikonia: What does that mean? In protoftpd.conf I have "Port   2121" and on my router I have the forwarded to the local PC.
[12:47] <ikonia> ExploWare[NL] : don't know
[12:47] <cafuego_> Ralth: avoid windows
[12:47] <ExploWare[NL] > ikonia: ok :)
[12:47] <ikonia> wweasel: ftp uses 2 ports, a data and a control port
[12:47] <BlackOmen> Hello everybody, I was hoping somebody will be able to help me with a device problem?
[12:47] <ikonia> you need both
[12:48] <ikonia> trinitrogen: no - you shouldn't bother
[12:48] <wweasel> ikonia: Ok, so is 2121 my data or my control port, and how do I find out the other one?
[12:48] <IdleOne> BlackOmen: what problem?
[12:48] <maddash> how do I stop ubuntu from synchronizing the clock at boot time? I don't want to purge the system of the synch program (ntpdate?), I just want it to run when I tell it to...and not at boot time.
[12:48] <vlt> Ralth: You could first try the open source one. There's a pkg "bcm43xx". You have to install it via `aptitude install bcm43xx`
[12:48] <trinitrogen> ikonia any reason?
[12:48] <cafuego_> Ralth: I'd try the open source version first; I have a bcm43xx firmware package that contains the firmware files needed to make it work (they don't come with Ubuntu)
[12:48] <cafuego_> vlt: It's in the kernel already.
[12:48] <ikonia> trinitrogen: because if you have to ask, you won't know how to get the benifits
[12:48] <Ralth> vlt: where do I get bcm43xx?
[12:49] <cafuego_> Ralth: You already have it.
[12:49] <ikonia> wweasel: look at the ftp entries in /etc/services and it might make sense
[12:49] <BlackOmen> IdleOne: While my system has no problem booting from a cd, I can't use my usb keyboard as an input
[12:49] <trinitrogen> ikonia okay, simple enough
[12:49] <ikonia> rather than me explain it
[12:49] <n2diy> maddash: disable the ntpd, and then when you want to update, use ntp pool.ntp.org
[12:49] <vlt> cafuego, Ralth: Yes, right. But you might need bcm43xx-fwcutter ...
[12:49] <ikonia> trinitrogen: just the truth
[12:49] <BlackOmen> Idleone: so I can't do anything with an install cd
[12:49] <cafuego_> Ralth: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/edgy-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb
[12:49] <nosferatu> hi i'm new to this could some one tell me how to install something from an archive file i've downloaded
[12:49] <cafuego_> Ralth: Fetch and install that deb file.
[12:49] <kitche> vlt: you don't need it if there is already a package for the firmware
[12:49] <wweasel> trinitrogen: I second ikonia's opinion that 32 bit was the right choice. It's mush easier to manage, and the benefits of doing 64 bit are negligible.
[12:49] <ikonia> nosferatu: depends on the file
[12:50] <cafuego_> kitche: Well, the firmware isn't in Ubuntu as such.
[12:50] <delaney> dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig..   it usedta give me a blue screen to allow bitmapped fonts etc.  no longer does.  wahts the new command structure?
[12:50] <IdleOne> BlackOmen: hence the reason why I use all wired peripherals :/
[12:50] <Ralth> Ok, it's installing... jas
[12:50] <cafuego_> kitche: But thousands of users aparently like it.
[12:50] <lufis> Every article I come across says inittab is in /etc, but on my system that file doesn't exist. Where is it?
[12:50] <kitche> cafuego_: yeah I keep forgetting some people bcm don't work by defautl I m one of the lucky ones :)_
[12:50] <crimsun> delaney, dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config
[12:50] <BlackOmen> IdleOne: Is there something I can do so that I can use the install disc?
[12:50] <delaney> crimsun, AAAAH YES!
[12:50] <cafuego_> kitche: Yours works without firmware?
[12:50] <vlt> Ralth: So try to `modprobe bcm43xx` and then look at the last lines of `dmesg` output.
[12:50] <n2diy> lufis: locate inittab
[12:51] <lufis> n2diy: ok, thanks
[12:51] <maddash> n2diy: stupid question # 2:  "sudo aptitude remove ntpd"?
[12:51] <wweasel> ikonia: ftp-data is port 20. Are you saying that I should be forwarding that port as well?
[12:51] <kitche> cafuego_: it needs firmware to use natively but it works by default in ubuntu
[12:51] <nosferatu> file is called pspvc-install-0.2.1.tar.gz has an install.sh file in it
[12:51] <IdleOne> BlackOmen: Im sure there is someone in here who can help you with that ask again in a couple minutes and soon as someone knows they will help
[12:51] <ikonia> if thats what you've set up
[12:51] <cafuego_> Ralth: You may actually need to unload bcm43xx firm, it may have auto-loaded during bootup.
[12:51] <n2diy> maddash: not sure, give it a try?
[12:51] <ikonia> (you've probably setup data - not control by the way)
[12:51] <BlackOmen> IdleOne: Alright - Thanks for your time
[12:52] <jewbilee> !compiled
[12:52] <jewbilee> damn
[12:52] <ikonia> wweasel: is there any reason you're using random ports ?
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiled - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <jewbilee> whats the thing for comiled software?
[12:52] <ikonia> rather than the ones that applications know to use
[12:52] <astronouth7303> how can I get my windows computer to connect to my ubuntu computer?
[12:52] <arrenlex> !compile | jewbilee
[12:52] <ubotu> jewbilee: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:52] <wweasel> ikonia: ftp servers are more secure when taken off port 21.
[12:52] <ikonia> astronouth7303: samba
[12:52] <astronouth7303> ok
[12:52] <ikonia> wweasel: not really
[12:52] <ikonia> its the same application
[12:52] <astronouth7303> samba is installed
[12:52] <ikonia> so if it can be broke - on 21 it can be broke on 23094823042
[12:53] <ikonia> you just make it harder for applications that expect 21 to work
[12:53] <astronouth7303> when I try to browse to it in windows, it asks for a username/password
[12:53] <BlackOmen> Hello Everyone!  I was hoping somebody could help me with this problem:  My USB keyboard works at boot, until the system is done counting memory, and then doesn't work again until I boot into windows.  I'm trying to work with a ubuntu boot disc, but once I boot from the disc my USB keyboard won't work as an input.  WHat's up?
[12:53] <wweasel> ikonia: Security through obscurity. Yes, i know it's fallacious...
[12:53] <ikonia> that theory was thrown out ages ago, if you are claiming security - why use ftp
[12:53] <ikonia> just run it on a normal port
[12:53] <martin_> salu
[12:54] <kitche> wweasel: script kiddies are actually starting to scan higher ports now
[12:54] <Ralth> Ok, the package is installed.  Now, it says I have to run ndiswrapper -l, then ndiswrapper -e <driver>.  When I try that, it says command not found.  What's up?
[12:54] <ikonia> kitche: exactly
[12:54] <vlt> !fr | martin_
[12:54] <ubotu> martin_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:54] <martin_> merde j=chui sur un truc anglais
[12:54] <BlackOmen> Ikonia: I only have usb ports
[12:54] <BlackOmen> Ikonia: sorry, usb keyboard*
[12:54] <ikonia> BlackOmen: why are you telling me that ?
[12:54] <n2diy> Ralth: run it with sudo?
[12:54] <BlackOmen> Wait, when you said just run it on a normal port, were you talking to me?
[12:54] <ikonia> BlackOmen: no
[12:54] <BlackOmen> Sorry
[12:55] <arrenlex> !who | ikonia
[12:55] <ikonia> no problem
[12:55] <ubotu> ikonia: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[12:55] <astronouth7303> after samba is installed (it is by default), how can I get my windows computer to connect to my ubuntu system?
[12:55] <ikonia> arrenlex: yup, typo
[12:55] <ikonia> astronouth7303: check the wiki for how to configure it
[12:55] <Ralth> I did sudo -s, so I have root now. (I think)  It says root@....
[12:55] <ikonia> and come back with a specific question
[12:55] <doofy> when I update to the latest kernel my hdd/partition is incorrect in grub... will change groot to the correct drive/partition in /boot/grub/menu.lst correct this?
[12:55] <bimberi> astronouth7303: only the client is installed, not the server
[12:55] <bimberi> !samba | astronouth7303
[12:55] <ubotu> astronouth7303: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:55] <ikonia> doofy: how can it be incorrect if the system has booted
[12:56] <astronouth7303> bimberi: thanks
[12:56] <bimberi> astronouth7303: np :)
[12:56] <ikonia> doofy: apt doesn't change the root path - just hte image name
[12:56] <doofy> ikonia: i change it when i boot.
[12:56] <ikonia> then you've installed it wrong
[12:56] <ikonia> you'll need to re-install grub
[12:56] <ikonia> and change menu.lst
[12:56] <doofy> ikonia: ubuntu does it wrong
[12:56] <ikonia> depending on your exact grub error
[12:57] <doofy> well it has root (hd2,0) in grub, the correct is (hd0,0)
[12:57] <ikonia> change menu.lst
[12:57] <doofy> i do, but when a new kernel is installed the root for that entry is incorrect
[12:57] <coffeegrinds> can some one gimme a quick hand with GRUB? Like how do REconfigure it from the live CD
[12:57] <ikonia> re-install grub with the correct "root" option
[12:57] <s1> hi, can I set the group to sticky in a folder, so that all files created in the folder inherits the same group?
[12:57] <martin_> hi i have Beryl with ati radeon 7200 (all in wonder) and in 1280x1024  the X bug ( the right of screen bug) sorry for my langage u'am french!
[12:58] <doofy> ikonia: changing groot isnt sufficient?
[12:58] <n2diy> ! fr
[12:58] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:58] <ikonia> martin_: you'll get better support from the beryl / compiz channel
[12:58] <talisein> Anyone know about how many inodes should be in a 25G partition?
[12:58] <ikonia> doofy: no idea what groot is
[12:58] <arrenlex> ikonia: grub root.
[12:58] <arrenlex> ikonia: The drive on which grub is installed.
[12:58] <talisein> ikonia, I was using all available inodes, but not all available blocks
[12:58] <ikonia> talisein: ahhhhhh thats interesting
[12:58] <tonyKUN> How do I configure GRUB to autoboot Windows if within the timelimit neither Windows or Linux was picked
[12:59] <BULLE> talisein: it all depends on what settings was used when the filesystem was created
[12:59] <ikonia> tonyKUN: change the default in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:59] <vlt> tonyKUN: There's a "default" entry in menu.list
[12:59] <doofy> arrenlex: would changing groot affect the default root entry when a new kernel entry is created
[12:59] <BULLE> talisein: df -i
[12:59] <martin_> thank for all i go to the french chat
[12:59] <BULLE> talisein: will tell you how many inodes the fs has, and how many are free
[12:59] <ikonia> doofy: I told you to change that in menu.lst and you said you had
[12:59] <arrenlex> doofy: Changing groot would affect grub being able to load at all.
[01:00] <Ralth> vlt:  I installed it, but the network card is still not showing up in "Network tools".
[01:00] <iratsu> what are "Detect LAN printers" and "Share printers" supposed to do in the printers administration tool?
[01:00] <tonyKUN> under Ubuntu there is "savedefault" should i move that to windows?
[01:00] <talisein> BULLE, thanks. It seems I need another couple order of magnatudes of inodes. Do you know any options to throw at tune2fs?
[01:00] <ikonia> doofy: do a dirty hack and create a map file
[01:00] <AdamKili> can i configure a second wireless-g router to connect to my first one and act as a wi-fi card?
[01:00] <arrenlex> doofy: You're looking for kopt=
[01:00] <ikonia> talisein: you can't use tune
[01:00] <talisein> i cry
[01:00] <ikonia> talisein: you need to move the data, and re-create th efile system
[01:00] <ikonia> you can only change on lvm
[01:00] <kitche> AdamKili: yes just turn the second router into an AP
[01:00] <cafuego_> AdamKili: Some of them you can, check the manual, it'll say.
[01:01] <talisein> ok, it should be so bad actually
[01:01] <doofy> arrenlex: So i shuldnt change groot even though (hd2,0) isnt the drive grub is on?
[01:01] <n2diy> iratsu: enable printing over a network.
[01:01] <vlt> Ralth: Did you `modprobe bcm43xx`?
[01:01] <vlt> Ralth: What does `dmesg` say?
[01:01] <tonyKUN> under Ubuntu there is "savedefault" should i move that to windows?
[01:01] <iratsu> n2diy: hmm i tried to enable them, but nothing happens
[01:01] <AdamKili> kitche and cafuego_: thank you
[01:01] <arrenlex> doofy: If grub is on /dev/sdc1, your groot is correct.
[01:01] <ikonia> tonyKUN: no
[01:01] <tonyKUN> nevermind windows has that too
[01:01] <ikonia> change the "default" option
[01:01] <n2diy> iratsu: are you on a network?
[01:01] <iratsu> n2diy: are there additional steps i must take?
[01:01] <doofy> arrenlex: it is on /dev/sda1
[01:01] <bruenig> In gnomebaker, I click create audio cd, then in the little built in file manager, I go to where I have some oggs in a directory and it doesn't show any of them, but when I open up the real file manager and then drag and drop it works...
[01:01] <iratsu> n2diy: yes
[01:01] <arrenlex> doofy: Although I doubt you have three drive.
[01:01] <talisein> bbl
[01:01] <Ralth> vlt: [17179811.176000]  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.
[01:02] <doofy> arrenlex: i have 4 :P
[01:02] <arrenlex> doofy: Then you should have 0,0
[01:02] <arrenlex> xD
[01:02] <ikonia> doofy: just make a map file
[01:02] <doofy> arrenlex: thats what i thought... it is incorrect
[01:02] <arrenlex> doofy: Are you sure that's the drive where your /boot/grub/menu.lst file actually is?
[01:02] <n2diy> iratsu: is the network functioning?
[01:02] <vlt> Ralth: The firmware is not installed. You need to install the fw.
[01:02] <doofy> arrenlex: 100% positive
[01:02] <doofy> im on it right now :)
[01:02] <svish> how can I find out if my cpu supports mmx?
[01:02] <svish> is there a command in linux or something for it?
[01:02] <ikonia> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:02] <ikonia> svish: why does that matter
[01:03] <vlt> Ralth: There's a pkg called bcm43xx.fwcutter. Installed already?
[01:03] <doofy> heres the bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/8497
[01:03] <arrenlex> svish: "cat /proc/cpuinfo". Last line.
[01:03] <ikonia> please don't tell me you want to use compile flags
[01:03] <Ralth> how do I do that?  I downloaded it and opened the self-installer.
[01:03] <svish> cool
[01:03] <iratsu> n2diy: well i can ping the other computer
[01:03] <Ralth> vlt: I don't know if it's installed.  how do I check?
[01:03] <tonyKUN> well there is "default		0"
[01:03] <doofy> arrenlex: pata = ide
[01:03] <Peres> pata? just ide man
[01:03] <ikonia> tonyKUN: so change that to match the NUMBER of the windows option
[01:03] <n2diy> iratsu: hmm, not sure, I never configured a network printer.
[01:04] <arrenlex> doofy: Oh, nevermind. xD
[01:04] <ikonia> svish: why did you want to know if your cpu supported mmx
[01:04] <thugren> Hello
[01:04] <vlt> Ralth: From console: `aptitude show bcm43xx-fwcutter`
[01:04] <arrenlex> doofy: What's sudo fdisk -l say?
[01:04] <thugren> Hey anyone know any sudo repair tips?
[01:04] <Ralth> vlt: E: Unable to locate package bcm43xx-fwcutter
[01:04] <tonyKUN> I dont see a loader for it
[01:04] <ikonia> thugren: just tell us the problem instead of skipping around it
[01:04] <arrenlex> thugren: What seems to be the problem?
[01:04] <iratsu> anyone else know what "Detect LAN printers" and "Share printers" are supposed to do?
[01:04] <doofy> arrenlex: what part do you want to know?
[01:04] <tonyKUN> number**
[01:04] <vlt> Ralth: State: ???
[01:05] <bimberi> thugren: yes, but what's the problem?
[01:05] <vlt> Ralth: Oops
[01:05] <svish> so when mmx is there among flags, it is supported?
[01:05] <tonyKUN> title		Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
[01:05] <tonyKUN> root		(hd0,0)
[01:05] <tonyKUN> savedefault
[01:05] <tonyKUN> makeactive
[01:05] <tonyKUN> chainloader	+1
[01:05] <tonyKUN> thast what i see
[01:05] <arrenlex> doofy: Uh, if it looks correc,t I guess. xD
[01:05] <ikonia> svish: what are you trying to do
[01:05] <ikonia> as it can depend
[01:05] <vlt> Ralth: You have to edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list and add uni- or multiverse.
[01:05] <doofy> arrenlex: everything appears fine.
[01:05] <n2diy> ! enterh
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enterh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <n2diy> ! enter
[01:05] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:05] <vlt> Ralth: `nano /etc/apt/sources.list`
[01:05] <arrenlex> doofy: I guess it's a bug; sorry...
[01:05] <thugren> Okay.. Problem is I keep get a sudo error of sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu.nar.example.com via gethostbyname()
[01:05] <cafuego_> svish: Let me put is this way: if your PC doesn't do MMX and it not a PPC, it's time for new hardware.
[01:06] <doofy> arrenlex: im just going to change groot and install a new kernel... if it doesnt work ill go from there
[01:06] <bimberi> !hostname | thugren
[01:06] <ubotu> thugren: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly
[01:06] <doofy> arrenlex: im just really lazy and dont want to change 3 numbers every time i install a new kernel :)
[01:06] <Ralth> vlt: ok, it's open.  Now what?
[01:06] <arrenlex> doofy: Wait, what? Grub doesn't look at groot for that.
[01:06] <ikonia> svish: what are you trying to do ?
[01:06] <arrenlex> doofy: That would be your kopt= line.
[01:06] <svish> cafuego: lol, ok. no im just installing ogle or something.. and in synaptics there was an ogle and an ogle-mmx and an ogle-gui
[01:07] <theflyingfool> does gmail use ssl or tsl in evolution
[01:07] <bimberi> thugren: you need to boot into recovery mode to fix it
[01:07] <arrenlex> doofy: Oh, you mean the "root". Okay.
[01:07] <theflyingfool> for recieving
[01:07] <kitche> theflyingfool: probably ssl but it uses pop3 if you enabled it
[01:07] <vlt> Ralth: Either add "universe" behind "edgy main restricted" or find the "universe" line and remove the leading "#"
[01:07] <pengo> hie
[01:07] <Peres> hi
[01:08] <doofy> arrenlex: im talking about update-grub
[01:08] <pengo> of kopete is lock the pc
[01:08] <pengo> on dapper
[01:08] <doofy> arrenlex: isnt that what is run when a new kernel is installed?
[01:08] <svish> ikonia: i am installing ogle o something. and I found ogle, ogle-gui and ogle-mmx. which one should I install? my book used ogle and ogle-gui. but shouldnt I use ogle-mmx since I have that or something?
[01:08] <ikonia> doofy: just type "grub" and configure it from the grub shell
[01:08] <arrenlex> doofy: Yes it is. What three numbers are you changing.
[01:08] <ikonia> svish: I doubt (not certain) that oogle-mmx referese to mmx flags on the processor
[01:08] <pengo> can i do something for kopete's problem?
[01:08] <bimberi> theflyingfool: SSL (ref: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution )
[01:09] <Ralth> vlt: done.  uncommented two universe lines.  Now what?  How do I save the file?
[01:09] <Peres> anyone noticed problems with libc6 with edgy release?
[01:09] <vlt> Ralth: Hit F2
[01:09] <vlt> Ralth: Y
[01:09] <HymnToLife> !ogle-mmx
[01:09] <ubotu> ogle-mmx: DVD player with support for DVD menus. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2-5 (edgy), package size 245 kB, installed size 824 kB
[01:09] <doofy> arrenlex: well groot=(hd2,0) so when update-grub is run doesnt that mean that root on a new kernel will be (hd2,0)?
[01:09] <svish> ikonia: "This is the version optimized for MMX CPU extensions, as found on all current i386 compatible CPUs."
[01:09] <vlt> Ralth: `aptitude update`
[01:09] <ikonia> you'll be fine for that then
[01:09] <theflyingfool> and outgoing is tsl?
[01:09] <doofy> ikonia: what do you mean?
[01:09] <pengo> or how can i use webcam chat in dapper?
[01:09] <Ralth> vlt: Error writing /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[01:09] <vlt> Ralth: Didn
[01:09] <bruenig> Ralth, you have to open it with sudo
[01:09] <arrenlex> doofy: I think so, yes.
[01:09] <n2diy> Peres: what is the problem with lib6c, that is a major library?
[01:10] <ikonia> doofy: type "grub" which puts you into the grub shell, then configure your grub install correctly
[01:10] <vlt> Ralth: Didn't you open a root shell?
[01:10] <AdamKili> kitche and cafuego_: Is there another name for what I'm trying to do besides "AP"? I searched manual, found nothing
[01:10] <arrenlex> doofy: Does it even boot if you change that value?
[01:10] <vlt> Ralth: `sudo -s`
[01:10] <bruenig> vlt, ubuntu doesn't usually do root shells, generally
[01:10] <doofy> arrenlex: i'm not sure, ill try it real quick
[01:10] <bruenig> vlt, or at least most of the users don't
[01:10] <kitche> AdamKili: Access Point if that's what you want
[01:10] <Ralth> I did, but closed it by mistake, and forgot to root the new shell.  jas.
[01:10] <doofy> ikonia: alright, never dont that but ill try :)
[01:10] <vlt> bruenig: I should have called it "root shell" ;-)
[01:10] <Peres> n2diy: oke, i had problems earlier this day getting oracle calander to work
[01:10] <bimberi> theflyingfool: TLS, yes (same ref)
[01:10] <theflyingfool> thanks a bunch
[01:11] <vlt> bruenig: I told him before ...
[01:11] <doofy> ikonia: what command do i use to change groot?
[01:11] <arrenlex> doofy: What's the output of "mount | head -n1"?
[01:11] <ikonia> root (hd0)
[01:11] <chris99> can anyone help me configure laptop wireless card please?
[01:11] <arrenlex> doofy: Use a text editor.
[01:11] <ikonia> or what ever
[01:11] <ikonia> chris have you looked at the wiki how to
[01:11] <vlt> bruenig: ;-)
[01:11] <doofy> arrenlex: well i was but he said to use grub
[01:11] <gameover> hi! my build in wireless card(detected as eth1) is not working... its a broadcom.. do you recommend to isntall bcm43xx-fwcutter?
[01:11] <BlackOmen> ENG: Hello Everyone!  I was hoping somebody could help me with this problem:  My USB keyboard works at boot, until the system is done counting memory, and then doesn't work again until I boot into windows.  I'm trying to work with a ubuntu boot disc, but once I boot from the disc my USB keyboard won't work as an input.  WHat's up?
[01:11] <gameover> somene?
[01:11] <arrenlex> doofy: If you think he knows what he's talking about...
[01:11] <gameover> someone?
[01:11] <n2diy> Peres: hmm, I don't know what to tell you?
[01:11] <Ralth> vlt: root@sean-laptop:~# update aptitude
[01:11] <Ralth> bash: update: command not found
[01:11] <ikonia> gameover: I recommend not uing broadcom
[01:12] <imbecile> bruenig,  hey can you help me setup network manager to use my wireless card?
[01:12] <pox> salve mi serve una mano con dvb-t
[01:12] <arrenlex> Ralth: do you mean aptitude update?
[01:12] <bruenig> imbecile, no
[01:12] <doofy> arrenlex: i thought i knew, i just wanted to verify :)
[01:12] <houman> !rules
[01:12] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:12] <vlt> Ralth: apt... upd...
[01:12] <ikonia> doofy: be careful
[01:12] <Peres> n2diy : get it to work by commenting LD ASSUME KERNEL=2.2.5
[01:12] <ikonia> you have to know your layout and know what your doing
[01:12] <gameover> mmm..
[01:12] <ikonia> the grub shell is not a learning thing
[01:12] <Ralth> vlt: ok, running.
[01:12] <Peres> n2diy: in the callin source script from oracle calander
[01:12] <doofy> arrenlex: /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[01:12] <gameover> what can i use instead?
[01:12] <doofy> ikonia: i dont really care what happens to this install
[01:12] <n2diy> Peres: hmm, maybe you should file a bug report?
[01:13] <chris99> ikonia: I checked Ubuntu wiki, followed instructions, didnt work
[01:13] <ikonia> gameover: not broadcom, try a supported card
[01:13] <arrenlex> doofy: And your /boot is on the same partition?
[01:13] <houman> hi guys, i have a vnc related question, why are all the vnc guides ask you to install vnc4server eventhough ubuntu has its own vnc server which you can enabled through the system -> preferences menu
[01:13] <arrenlex> doofy: mount | grep boot returns nothing?
[01:13] <Peres> n2diy: i will do that, on the ubuntu site?
[01:13] <vlt> chris99: What chip?
[01:13] <gameover> but, its a laptop...
[01:13] <vlt> chris99: `lspci`
[01:13] <doofy> arrenlex: i dont believe it is, whats default?
[01:13] <n2diy> Peres: yep.
[01:13] <gameover> i dont hove more choices
[01:13] <ikonia> we need an #ubuntu-wirless channel
[01:13] <vlt> gameover: What chip?
[01:13] <gameover> broadcom?
[01:13] <chris99> vlt: one sec
[01:13] <doofy> arrenlex: actually it is
[01:13] <arrenlex> doofy: What's the output of mount | grep boot
[01:14] <kitche> houman: because vino isn't that great
[01:14] <vlt> ikonia: FACK
[01:14] <thugren> brb
[01:14] <doofy> arrenlex: nothing, so i just have a / and swap
[01:14] <ikonia> FACK ?
[01:14] <Rappermas> hey, why would azureus core dump on launch?
[01:14] <Ralth> vlt: aptitude update done.  What now?
[01:14] <arrenlex> doofy: Okay...
[01:14] <chris99> vlt: 02:02.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev
[01:14] <chris99> 01)
[01:14] <chris99>         Subsystem: Actiontec Electronics Inc Unknown device 0406
[01:14] <chris99>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
[01:14] <chris99>         Memory at ec000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K] 
[01:14] <chris99>         Capabilities: <access denied>
[01:14] <houman> kitche: thanks,alot
[01:14] <ikonia> Rappermas: panic - thats why its a core
[01:14] <BULLE> Rappermas: i would guess it has to do with broken swt install
[01:14] <ikonia> send it off to the developers or debug it yourself
[01:14] <vlt> !paste | chris99
[01:14] <ubotu> chris99: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:14] <doofy> arrenlex: ill be right back im just gonna see if this works
[01:15] <Rappermas> i think i might have to upgrade the JRE
[01:15] <BULLE> Rappermas: nah
[01:15] <pox> i NEED HELP FOR DVB-T
[01:15] <BULLE> Rappermas: what JRE are you using +'
[01:15] <vlt> Ralth: `aptitude install bcm43xx-fwcutter`
[01:15] <ikonia> pox: you need capslock help first
[01:15] <houman> kitche: also the vino thing asks me if i wanna allow the remote vnc connection or not, which is kinda silly cuz i will use vnc when im away from my computer so how can i press "allow", am i missing something?
[01:15] <Rappermas> umm...1.4.2
[01:15] <n2diy> ! caps
[01:15] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:15] <chris99> no problems with Hoary, seems to be a very common problem with Edgy after spending the day googling and reading wikis
[01:15] <BULLE> Rappermas: should be fine
[01:15] <Rappermas> yeah, i would think
[01:15] <pox> ok
[01:15] <gameover> vlt, that package for me?
[01:15] <Rappermas> it launches and everything
[01:15] <chris99> have a thinkpad, built in wireless card, never a problem before
[01:16] <Ralth> vlt: done.  It seems to have installed ok
[01:16] <evilghost> houman:  Enable the password option and disable the "ask for confirmation"
[01:16] <houman> evilghost: thank you sooo much
[01:16] <tonyKUN> my ubuntu wont let me save menu.lst because of some permission thing, and some permissions thing won't let me copy a folder into /usr
[01:16] <evilghost> houman:  It's in the System->Prefs->Remote Desktop
[01:17] <arrenlex> !sudo | tonyKUN
[01:17] <pox> pleeeaaaase
[01:17] <ubotu> tonyKUN: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:17] <BULLE> Rappermas: if you get a core dump, it indicates the problem isnt in the actualy java code, so that leaves the SWT part
[01:17] <ikonia> tonyKUN: use sudo
[01:17] <Ralth> vlt: done.  It seems to have installed ok.  What now?
[01:17] <ikonia> pox: shut up !
[01:17] <vlt> Ralth: `/usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh`
[01:17] <pox> ikonia fuck
[01:17] <ScreaminIke> is there an irc equivalent to sounder?
[01:17] <BULLE> Rappermas: its a commmon problem that you get when you are using a build of swt that isnt realy suited to your system
[01:17] <doofy> arrenlex: boots up just fine with a change in groot... im gonna install a new kernel and see if it did the trick
[01:17] <arrenlex> !language | pox
[01:17] <ubotu> pox: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:17] <pox> or suck
[01:17] <siv0x> could anyone walk me through on partitioning my harddrive to install a duel boot of windows and ubuntu?
[01:17] <tonyKUN> !sudo
[01:17] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:17] <arrenlex> doofy: Did you run update-grub after doing that?
[01:17] <pox> ubotu
[01:17] <pox> tnx
[01:17] <houman> evilghost: thank you , i found it :)  would you recommend vnc4server over this vino as well? which server do you use?
[01:17] <martin_> #ubuntu-fr
[01:17] <vlt> gameover: What chip?
[01:18] <doofy> arrenlex: no... haha that would make a difference
[01:18] <arrenlex> doofy: Then you didn't really do anything. xD
[01:18] <gameover> how can i know the chip?
[01:18] <trinitrogen> Whats a good program for RARs?
[01:18] <pox> but there aren't people
[01:18] <chris99> vlt: any ideas?
[01:18] <ikonia> trinitrogen: unrar
[01:18] <BULLE> houman: take a look at NX before settling for vnc, its WAY WAY faster then vnc, and works just as well
[01:18] <arrenlex> doofy: Of course. It's on a commented line. Those are only read by update-grub to create the automagic kernel list
[01:18] <evilghost> houman:  I just use vino, I ssh into my box and use port redirection (ssh -L) and connect via vino with vino.  This enables me to wrap the session over SSH which is secure and not plain-text.
[01:18] <doofy> arrenlex: well a new kernel install should do that right? so we'll see once that happens
[01:18] <Rappermas> that weird
[01:18] <gameover> i think 4311
[01:18] <Ralth> vlt:  Done, seems ok.  Now what?
[01:18] <Rappermas> i'd think that if i installed from repos it would work
[01:18] <Rappermas> all standard
[01:19] <vlt> chris99: Sorry, don't know this card. MAybe you should try ndiswrapper ...
[01:19] <Rappermas> azureus launches and everything--the GUI comes up for a second, then core dumps
[01:19] <BULLE> Rappermas: i think its wierd to
[01:19] <vlt> Ralth: `modprobe ndiswrapper` again.
[01:19] <arrenlex> doofy: Hold on. Groot sets what appears on your kernel lines... so it should be (hd2,1)... so you shouldn't be able to boot those kernels. How did you manage to boot them?
[01:19] <chris99> vlt: thanks, tried bu no luck, might go back to Hoary, had no problems with that
[01:19] <Rappermas> i should pastebin the output
[01:19] <houman> evilghost: yes but this is for connecting from windows, but youre right ssh tunneling is much safer i heard,
[01:19] <Rappermas> cuz it's not exactly trivial
[01:19] <vlt> Ralth: And again look at dmesg.
[01:19] <evilghost> chris99:  What kind of card are you running, if it's one of the newer BCM43xx's you'll need to use ndiswrapper-1.9 instead of the older ndiswrapper.  I use ndiswrapper over the fwcutter because of support for 54Mbit.
[01:19] <gameover> Broadcom 4311, the bcm43xx doesnt work for me?
[01:19] <doofy> arrenlex: i edited within the boot menu of grub
[01:20] <arrenlex> doofy: Edited what?
[01:20] <evilghost> chris99:  Also, ndiswrapper worked better, I had dropouts with fwcutter and had to ifdown/ifup the wlan interface sporadically.
[01:20] <doofy> arrenlex: u can press e on an entry then edit it line by line
[01:20] <houman> BULLE: is it possible to get a client for windows though? i need to connect from a windows machine, but i doubt there is a freenx client on windows, or is there?
[01:20] <arrenlex> doofy: I know.
[01:20] <BULLE> houman: there is
[01:20] <Rappermas> check this out  http://pastebin.ca/301787
[01:20] <vlt> gameover: Me too. You need the ndiswrapper way.
[01:20] <doofy> arrenlex: i edited root to be (hd0,0) instead of (hd2,0)
[01:20] <chris99> evilghost: will try ndiswrapper
[01:20] <ernz> Hi everyone, I have a slight emergency here regarding DATA RECOVERY. I need to undelete or scan for all recoverable files on a windows NTFS hard disk. Can someone please point me in the direction of a tool that can help, with a GUI if possible.
[01:20] <IdleOne> houman: yes there is
[01:20] <evilghost> houman:  Putty will support SSH redirection
[01:20] <kitche> houman: freenx works on windows and linux
[01:20] <BULLE> houman: just use the nomachines client, its freely avalable for windows, on their homepage
[01:20] <evilghost> chris99:  Make sure you try the ndiswrapper-1.9 version
[01:20] <ernz> I am running Edgy myself.
[01:20] <chris99> evilghost: thanks
[01:20] <arrenlex> doofy: Yeah; you should be able to safely edit groot on your system.
[01:21] <houman> BULLE: nomachines is an nx client?
[01:21] <evilghost> chris99:  I'm a BCM4306 and my wife's machine is BCM4311, I'm using ndiswrapper 1.9 with both.
[01:21] <arrenlex> doofy: Change it to (hd0,0) and run update-grub.
[01:21] <want2ubunt2> Hello all
[01:21] <vlt> gameover: I needed to uninstall the (broken) ubuntu pkg and compile the latest ndiswrapper. Then it worked.
[01:21] <n2diy> ernz: use your Ubuntu live disk.
[01:21] <Rappermas> i'm thinking that upgrading the VM would do it
[01:21] <robtp> hi im having a problem with xchat-gnome locking up a lot
[01:21] <doofy> arrenlex: good thats what i did... but i forgot to run update-grub, so ill just let the kernel update do that
[01:21] <arrenlex> !hi | want2ubunt2
[01:21] <ubotu> want2ubunt2: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:21] <ScreaminIke> anyone knw if there is an irc equivalent to sounder? it est... an ubuntu off-topic chanel?
[01:21] <Ralth> vlt: modprobe ndiswrapper returned no error, but no other output either.  I still get '[17179811.176000]  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.'  from dmesg
[01:21] <BULLE> houman: http://www.nomachine.com/
[01:21] <houman> evilghost: btu how will i hook up putty to my vnc viewer on windows :| becaus therye 2 seperate programs on windows
[01:21] <logivision> Is there any way to get a Window's Program (a .exe) running on linux without 1) Installing it or 2) Running the execuable ?
[01:21] <laz0r> hi, does anybody in here have a clue how to create an initramfs that will mount an evms root? i just bootstrapped edgy on an evms volume and tried booting, with the gentoo-generated kernel+initramfs i could boot ubuntu, but i would prefer a working ubuntu method
[01:21] <houman> BULLE: thanks, im checking it out
[01:21] <arrenlex> ScreaminIke: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:21] <ikonia> logivision: wine
[01:21] <logivision> Like can you extract it and just copy the files over? or do you ahve to use a program like Wine or Codeweavers
[01:21] <ScreaminIke> thx
[01:21] <logivision> ikonia: Wine isn't working..
[01:22] <evilghost> chris99:  Sorry, ndiswrapper 1.8, not 1.9, there are packages in the edgy repos.  Named "ndiswrapper-utils-1.8"
[01:22] <ikonia> cross-over - or your screwed
[01:22] <robtp> does anyone know why xchat-gnome would lock up a lot... i can click different channels and the title changes in gnome-panel to whatever that channel is so its kinda working
[01:22] <vlt> Ralth: Is this a new msg? Can you repeat modprobing it and check dmesh again?
[01:22] <houman> BULLE: why none of these are in the repositories?
[01:22] <doofy> do old kernel images stay on your machine forever?
[01:22] <ernz> n2diy: I am using Ubuntu at the moment on this PC, the drives are from another computer, and the drive has been formatted (YES - FORMATTED!) however, there are tools for windows for file recovery, is there a similar one for Linux/Ubuntu?
[01:22] <BULLE> houman: i just downloaded the win client from there, and use it in windows, on the linux side i use freenx, works like a charm
[01:22] <ikonia> doofy: depends if you clean / remove them
[01:22] <want2ubunt2> Can someone take pity on a complete noob before he totally screws up a 6.10 install???
[01:22] <ikonia> want2ubunt2: just ask the question
[01:22] <doofy> ikonia: whats the method to doing that?
[01:22] <BULLE> houman: no idea to be honest
[01:22] <evilghost> houman:  Just get a VNC viewer client, like tightvnc, ultravnc, realvnc, etc.  You SSH into the machine using putty with port redirection, then you VNC to your local machine on the listening port (which redirects to the server).
[01:22] <ikonia> apt-get remove
[01:22] <vlt> Ralth: When there's no dmesg line there's no error ;-,)
[01:22] <houman> BULLE: yea i figured, i will go for that then, seems like the best option
[01:22] <evilghost> houman:  Better to have SSH open than VNC>
[01:22] <n2diy> ernz: I don't know?
[01:23] <ScreaminIke> what is the irssi command to close a conversation?
[01:23] <IdleOne> logivision: only way for you to run that POS software is to get the company that sold it to you to support it in linux. you might be able to run it with Wine or Codeweavers
[01:23] <svish> quick dumb question.. what do you call a non-laptop computer in english? a regular one with a screen and box. lol.. seriously cant remember the word..
[01:23] <BULLE> evilghost: nx uses ssh
[01:23] <doofy> ikonia: will it remove the entries in menu.lst?
[01:23] <ikonia> yup
[01:23] <kitche> ScreaminIke: /part /query
[01:23] <aoupi> svish: desktop
[01:23] <Ralth> vlt:  last three lines of dmesg: [17179811.220000]  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.
[01:23] <Ralth> [17179813.412000]  eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[01:23] <Ralth> [17182316.524000]  ndiswrapper version 1.22 loaded (preempt=no,smp=yes)
[01:23] <svish> aoupi: thanks! lol
[01:23] <BULLE> evilghost: so if you use nx instead of vnc, you dont need to have any extra ports open etc
[01:23] <tonyKUN> how can i set my own account to have all permissions?
[01:23] <ScreaminIke> what if it's a pm?
[01:23] <houman> evilghost: ok i gotcha, but who is gonna eavesdrop on my connection :(
[01:23] <ikonia> it does
[01:23] <kitche> ScreaminIke: /query
[01:23] <doofy> ikonia: so like apt-get remove linux-image-2.....
[01:23] <ikonia> tonyKUN: it does, you use sudo
[01:23] <ernz> OK, thanks. Anyone have an idea what I might use? This is a total dead end as far as I am seeing, but I'm positive there are tools that will do the job. Even a mention of something use have used in the past might help.
[01:23] <ScreaminIke> thx
[01:23] <n2diy> svish: box?
[01:23] <ikonia> doofy: yup
[01:23] <ScreaminIke> :)
[01:23] <doofy> ikonia: thanks :)
[01:24] <gameover> RTS : off Fragment: off (yes, i already turn it on) any clue? the driver maybe?
[01:24] <ikonia> no problem
[01:24] <evilghost> BULLE:  10-4, I'm not familiar with nx, I just use SSH and on the rare occasion I need VNC I use it over an SSH wrapped port so only SSH is listening on the external interface (with alternate port and public key authentication)
[01:24] <ikonia> doofy: well done for working it through
[01:24] <tonyKUN> i dont understand sudo
[01:24] <doofy> arrenlex: thank you for helping clarify that, i wasnt sure if that would do the trick
[01:24] <ikonia> tonyKUN: read up on it
[01:24] <want2ubunt2> I want to install 6.10 to a USB external HD. When I get to step 5 it rells me that Grub will be installed to hd0. What drive is this???
[01:24] <bds> kitche: does /win c work as well?
[01:24] <BULLE> evilghost: nx is basicly vlc like, but uses ssh and public key auth, and is WAY WAY faster then vlc
[01:24] <ikonia> want2ubunt2: thats the primary boot drive
[01:24] <houman> evilghost: i mean if you think its necessary then ill do that
[01:24] <bds> kitche: I just switched to ircsii from BitchX
[01:24] <svish> n2diy: case, whatever :p im norwegian :p
[01:24] <logivision> IdleOne: The installation freezes during the installation in wine, when I use CrossOver it gets to a part where you need to point to the Window's based server. But the program automatically looks for "My Network Neighbourhood" so I can't go anyfarther. It won't let me browse either. The company said that people have got it to work on Linux but they don't support it so they won't pass us any info.
[01:24] <evilghost> houman:  Your choice man, I'd always rather err on the side of caution.
[01:25] <arrenlex> tonyKUN: In Linux there are regular users and super users. Regular users can only do what they're allowed to do. Super users can do anything. Sudo allows you to execute commands as super user.
[01:25] <evilghost> BULLE:  Thanks for the info, I'll check out nx now.
[01:25] <svish> n2diy: the box with the motherboard and all the other stuff
[01:25] <doofy> i just used the new installer for the first time, its a lot better than the old one
[01:25] <kitche> bds: you mean irssi? since ircii is a different client /window close works also
[01:25] <svish> n2diy: what do you call it?
[01:25] <logivision> IdleOne: So I was just wondering if there was any other way that it could be done besides CrossOver (Codeweavers) or Wine
[01:25] <n2diy> svish: I just use box, but you could use tower, desktop?
[01:25] <gameover> RTS : off Fragment: off (yes, i already turn it on) any clue? the driver maybe? help, plz
[01:25] <want2ubunt2> OK, but is that sda?? or one of my 2 ntfs formatted XP drives???
[01:25] <Sumit> room, I cant mount my newly formated fat32 partion, HELP!!!
[01:25] <houman> BULLE: so youre saying NX is faster AND safer than vnc?
[01:25] <ikonia> want2ubunt2: depends what you bios says it is
[01:25] <IdleOne> logivision: ask them to put you in contact with one of the people who got it working and that you will sign a release if they like
[01:25] <svish> n2diy: ok
[01:25] <arrenlex> !doesn't work | Sumit
[01:25] <ubotu> Sumit: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[01:25] <bds> kitche: yeah, I meant irssi :)
[01:26] <Sumit> really
[01:26] <ikonia> hd0 is your primary boot drive
[01:26] <ikonia> and where you want grub to be
[01:26] <Sumit> I wanted to share a partion in windows, and linux
[01:26] <vlt> Ralth: The third last msg is 40 minutes older that the last ;-)
[01:26] <logivision> IdleOne: Thanks. Unfortunitally the only guy we can talk to is on holidays untill the 6th. I was hopeing to get it up and running today or tomrrow, I'll have to wait though i guess. Thanks for all your help though,
[01:26] <Sumit> so I formated it in windows, thinking ubuntu, would mount it and access it automaticall
[01:26] <Sumit> automatically
[01:26] <IdleOne> logivision: Im sure that there is a linux friendly software that you can use instead of this windows only program
[01:27] <genius314> Hey, can anyone help me connect to my Windows network? I already have an internet connection.
[01:27] <Ralth> vlt: lol!  I didn't realize it was a log.
[01:27] <arrenlex> !samba | genius314
[01:27] <ubotu> genius314: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:27] <houman> evilghost: im looking at NX too, here is a howto on the ubuntu forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1968
[01:27] <Ralth> vlt: So what's the next step?
[01:27] <want2ubunt2> yess - but does it realize that I want the usb drive to be the primary or is it going to reformat my XP install on my ata drives???
[01:27] <tonyKUN> "sudo adduser $user admin" does this command do the job?
[01:27] <ikonia> no
[01:27] <Sumit> i tried it in disk management (in linux) but it does not allow me to enable the drive
[01:27] <arrenlex> tonyKUN: What are you trying to do?
[01:27] <BULLE> houman: yes
[01:28] <Sumit> Wat I'm I doing wrong
[01:28] <tonyKUN> allow my account to edit menu.lst and copy folders into filesystem
[01:28] <cwillu> !wab
[01:28] <logivision> IdleOne: There might be.  Unfortunitally it's a program for work and we have a license to sell it. It's the program our company know's and supports so switching to somethign else is a _huge_ deal.
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <evilghost> houman:  Thanks, I'm reading that howto now as well.
[01:28] <cwillu> !outlook
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about outlook - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <houman> BULLE: thanks again, ill install it
[01:28] <ernz> Someone please help? - NTFS data recovery from ubuntu?
[01:28] <vlt> Ralth: It should work now. So what does `iwconfig` say?
[01:28] <arrenlex> tonyKUN: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:28] <aoupi> houman: WOA thanks for that link, saw it months ago but never couldn't find it again :)
[01:28] <arrenlex> tonyKUN: sudo cp -r <source> <dest>
[01:28] <arrenlex> tonyKUN: or sudo nautilus for a GUI
[01:29] <houman> aoupi: i have a fodler in my bookmarks for ubuntu howtos, this way i wont miss anything :P
[01:29] <LinTux>  If I install KDE or XFCE my video goes out of sync at login and the screen pages with mouse movement to the top or bottom along with side to side, anybody got any cures for this?
[01:29] <erudified> Any nvu users here? I'm hunting for the ultimate web design setup =)
[01:29] <Sumit> Any Ideas, how to access this newly formated drive???
[01:29] <IdleOne> logivision: whats the program?
[01:29] <evilghost> Sumit:  Have you mounted it?
[01:29] <Sumit> ??? no, what do i use
[01:29] <tonyKUN> is there a way to do everything without being sudo?
[01:29] <vlt> Question: `transcode -y divx5` gives me "[transcode]  warning : failed to init DivX 5.0 Codec". What package do I need to create DivX 5 movies?
[01:29] <mnoir> !fat32 | Sumit
[01:29] <tonyKUN> root*
[01:29] <ubotu> Sumit: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[01:30] <Ralth> vlt: Well, it recognizes it finally!  Now it says 'Access Point: Invalid'
[01:30] <Sumit> used to point and click
[01:30] <arrenlex> tonyKUN: Why?
[01:30] <Sumit> lets see
[01:30] <evilghost> Sumit:  What is the drive name?  /dev/hda1?  /dev/hdb1?  /dev/sda1?  etc?
[01:30] <arrenlex> tonyKUN: Sudo is the way to do it.
[01:30] <Sumit> hda6
[01:30] <evilghost> Sumit:  mkdir -p /media/fat32
[01:30] <evilghost> Sumit:  sudo mkdir -p /media/fat32
[01:30] <BULLE> vlt: i have no real clues on your particular problem, but divx is a commercial application, but its basicly just an mpeg4 implementation
[01:30] <want2ubunt2> Can I install 6.10 to a USB external HD without using space or wrecking my XP install on hd0 - my XP ntfs boot drive?????
[01:30] <tonyKUN> so no way for my account to be sc?
[01:30] <tonyKUN> su**
[01:30] <vlt> Ralth: I'm on Kubuntu and really like "knetworkmanager" for finding and accessing APs ... Don't know _the_ gnome tool ...
[01:30] <BULLE> vlt: so just use xvid instead, its basicly the same
[01:31] <arrenlex> tonyKUN: WHY?
[01:31] <evilghost> Sumit:  sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda6 /media/fat32
[01:31] <tonyKUN> kind of a hassle to do all the sudo stuff
[01:31] <Prez__> hello all...
[01:31] <Ralth> vlt: how does Kbuntu differ?
[01:31] <Prez__> the one thing i can't get working in ubunty, edgy eft is the password to default keyring
[01:31] <bds> vlt: I think it is network-manager-gnome
[01:31] <IdleOne> tonyKUN: maybe you need to try mandriva or Suse they have a root account if it is so important
[01:31] <Sumit> Evilghost, after I reformated it in linux, I think its fat, does it make a huge difference in the cmd
[01:31] <arrenlex> tonyKUN: You mean you want to run as root permanently? Please don't.
[01:31] <tonyKUN> so sudo all the way?
[01:32] <theflyingfool> using F-spot, where is the "photo" folder if i select the copy to photo folder when importing
[01:32] <evilghost> Sumit:  You can let mount guess the format based on the partition type, just leave out the "-t vfat" part
[01:32] <IdleOne> tonyKUN: sudo rocks
[01:32] <Prez__> Ubuntu asks me everytime for keyring password to store wep keys, but i can't store them, don't know where to change that password, I have my regular gpg keyring, and I don't know how to make that one the default
[01:32] <Sumit> lets try it
[01:32] <cafuego_> tonyKUN: 'sudo -s' gives you a root shell like 'su'. 'sudo -i' gives you one like 'su -'
[01:32] <mnoir> tonyKUN: ppl smarter than us think sudo is a good idea
[01:32] <arrenlex> tonyKUN: it a) provides better security, and b) stops you from screwing everything up
[01:32] <vlt> BULLE: normally I use xvid, but my hardware player doesn't like that much. So I think I should try divx again.
[01:32] <tonyKUN> Ii guess those are pretty good reasons
[01:32] <BULLE> vlt: www.divx.com then i guess
[01:32] <imbecile> Prez__,  I'm looking to get there right now
[01:32] <tonyKUN> btw what irc clients do you use?
[01:33] <IdleOne> tonyKUN: sudo protects you from doing something stupid to your system. everytime you type sudo you will remember that I better know what Im doing cause this might break everything :)
[01:33] <vlt> Ralth: Kubuntu is the the same but uses KDE instead of Gnome as default Desktop Environment.
[01:33] <n2diy> ernz: take a look at: http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Best/ntfs-file-edit.html
[01:33] <tonyKUN> btw is there a way to view my windows harddrive?
[01:33] <Ralth> vlt:  I've used KDE before, and like it.  Is there a way to get that now that I have the standard ubuntu installed?
[01:33] <houman> BULLE: dang, the NX client from nomachine.com has to be installed on the windows machine, but i need to remote accedd my linux box from public windows machines that dont give you admin privilages, so you cant install anything
[01:33] <Sumit> Evil ghost, its says mount point does not exist
[01:33] <vlt> Ralth: [01:31]  <bds> vlt: I think it is network-manager-gnome
[01:33] <arrenlex> Ralth: Sure. apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:33] <Prez__> imbecile, let me know if u figure it out.. drives me nuts
[01:34] <vlt> Ralth: Yes, You can just install one pkg.
[01:34] <vlt> Ralth: Have to look up the name ...
[01:34] <mnoir> Ralth: just instal kubuntu-desktop
[01:34] <houman> BULLE: but the vnc viewer client thingie can be downloaded from realvnc as a single exe file that doesnt require any installation
[01:34] <arrenlex> !ntfs | tonyKUN
[01:34] <ubotu> tonyKUN: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[01:34] <vlt> Ralth: Yes.
[01:34] <ernz> n2diy: Are these not all Windows applications?
[01:34] <BULLE> houman: oh well, then vnc it is for you then
[01:35] <imbecile> Prez__,  I'm just trying to get my wireless card setup so i can get to the keyring
[01:35] <mnoir> Ralth: be patient - it is a meta package and installs many packages
[01:35] <Ralth> mnoir: I see that.  It may take awhile, but that's ok. :)
[01:35] <houman> BULLE: thanks for youre help though, and happy new year
[01:35] <mnoir> kde is big but nice
[01:35] <imbecile> im about to scrap ubuntu because i'm not getting any help with it
[01:36] <n2diy> ernz: schroll down and take a look at the Paragon program.
[01:36] <BULLE> imbecile: better scrap all linux, or buy a service contract then
[01:36] <h3xis> imbecile, that's not going to spite anyone but yourself
[01:36] <vlt> Ralth: btw, I had to install knetworkmanager separately
[01:36] <tonyKUN> !ntfs
[01:36] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[01:36] <tonyKUN> !fuse
[01:36] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:36] <mnoir> imbecile: maybe we will all follow you
[01:36] <Ralth> Thank you all so much for all your help with this!  It's the only reason a newbie to linux like myself can handle it. :)
[01:36] <imbecile> well i need my wireless working
[01:36] <ernz> n2diy: That is $70 and it only reads NTFS, it doesn't recover raw data from a formatted disk
[01:36] <cjones> where is the config file for grub ?
[01:36] <mnoir> Ralth: snot that hard....
[01:36] <arrenlex> Hey, guys, what's the difference between ntfs-3g and fuse?
[01:36] <h3xis> imbecile, what chipset do you have
[01:36] <imbecile> thats the most anyone has said to me all day
[01:36] <BULLE> imbecile: ubuntu isnt special, you just need hardware that has linux support
[01:36] <mnoir> cjones: /boot/grub
[01:37] <bimberi> cjones: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:37] <imbecile> my hardware does work
[01:37] <kitche> arrenlex: fuse can do sshfs and other filesystems
[01:37] <Ralth> mnoir: No, not hard.  Just new.
[01:37] <cjones> thank you
[01:37] <mnoir> Ralth: :)
[01:37] <imbecile> im running ipw3945 card
[01:37] <arrenlex> kitche: In the context of !ntfs recommending !fuse versus !ntfs-3g. Why?
[01:37] <h3xis> imbecile, it works out of the box.
[01:37] <kitche> arrenlex: from what I been reading ntfs-3g will be int he linux kernel sometime soon
[01:38] <arrenlex> kitche: Then shouldn't it be recommended, rather than fuse?
[01:38] <imbecile> h3xis,  I know i cannot pick up anything with network manager though
[01:38] <imbecile> h3xis,  it says eth1 is active
[01:38] <cello_rasp> how can i convert from pdf to a series of images?
[01:38] <h3xis> imbecile, edgy?
[01:38] <Ralth> I have to head to dinner, so I'll be back after KDE finishes installing. :)
[01:38] <imbecile> h3xis,  dapper drake
[01:38] <LinTux>  If I install KDE or XFCE my video goes out of sync at login and the screen pages with mouse movement to the top or bottom along with side to side, anybody got any cures for this?
[01:39] <kitche> arrenlex: I would recommand ntfs-3g since I onyl use fuse for sshfs
[01:39] <h3xis> imbecile, can you activate it through the terminal?
[01:39] <cjones> is everybody hear still anti-automatix
[01:39] <mnoir> cjones: yeah pretty much
[01:39] <n2diy> ! automatix
[01:39] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:39] <normmac> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (lib/modules/2.6.17-10generic/kernal/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[01:39] <normmac> anyone?
[01:40] <cjones> thanx just thought id ask
[01:40] <martin_> #ubuntu-fr-testing
[01:40] <Prez__> what is default keyring password?  i never remeber setting it
[01:40] <vlt> normmac: You were on 6400 too, right?
[01:40] <Prez__> and Nm-applet keeps asking on every wep network
[01:41] <imbecile> h3xis,  not sure.. I have only been using linux for a week.. I had it working last time and i reformatted because i was increasing my linux partition size now i cant get the dang thing going
[01:41] <normmac> vlt didn't realize you where still here
[01:41] <arrenlex> kitche: So what reason is there that !ntfs recommends !fuse? Should I suggest changing it in the -ops channel? Are there good reasons for it, or is it an oversight?
[01:41] <evilghost> normmac:  sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[01:41] <h3xis> imbecile, why arent you using edgy?
[01:41] <Sumit> No, still cant access it!!
[01:41] <normmac> vlt 6400?
[01:41] <imbecile> h3xis,  someone told me that there was more support for dapper drake
[01:41] <h3xis> imbecile, BS.
[01:42] <mnoir> arrenlex: it may be arbitrary in which case they might add it - try it and see
[01:42] <fabriciocscte> alguem sabe me dizer porque eu no posso mudar minhas aprties do gparted..o menu fica desabilitado....
[01:42] <h3xis> imbecile, i have a 3945 and when i ran edgy for a week on my sys it worked fine with it
[01:42] <arrenlex> kitche: Whoa, it just got changed. xD Nevermind.
[01:42] <arrenlex> kitche: The wise ones are listening >__>
[01:42] <vlt> normmac: Sorry, we had two other wireless in between ... ;-)
[01:42] <mnoir> arrenlex: now see what you've done!
[01:42] <imbecile> h3xis,  So do you think if i nstall edgy it may be easier?
[01:42] <n2diy> imbecile: h3xis, 6.06 works, why fix it? How many people here are complaining about broken systems with 6.06?
[01:43] <normmac> vtl: well i'm using a Broadcom Corporation bcm4306 802.11b/g wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[01:43] <normmac> vlt and i can't get it to work for the life of me
[01:43] <evilghost> normmac, see my post.
[01:43] <vlt> normmac: Ok, what did you try?
[01:43] <evilghost> normmac:  sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[01:43] <GhostFreeman> How does I chmod a .sh file to run?
[01:43] <h3xis> n2diy, why bother troubleshooting this problem on 6.06 if all he has to do is upgrade to edgy and have it work without any problems?
[01:43] <cello_rasp> is there any way of having a 'virtual printer', so that stuff printed is saved to image files?
[01:43] <bimberi> arrenlex: it's me.  let me know what you think :)
[01:43] <evilghost> normmac:  Your ndiswrapper didn't get updated when you went form 6.06 to 6.10
[01:43] <Sumit> wat m I doing wrong here --> jethwa@ToshibaMachin:~$ sudo mount -t fat /dev/hda6 /media/media
[01:43] <Sumit> mount: mount point /media/media does not exist
[01:44] <h3xis> imbecile, yes. it will work out of the box. network-manager-gnome will see it
[01:44] <arrenlex> bimberi: Thank you :)
[01:44] <normmac> i just clean installed
[01:44] <evilghost> normmac:  I'm running a BCM4306 card now with ndiswrapper 1.8
[01:44] <evilghost> normmac:  Oh, try ndiswrapper 1.8, I can send you the drivers as well that I'm using.
[01:44] <arrenlex> Sumit: The directory you're mounting to has to exist
[01:44] <imbecile> h3xis,  it sees it it just doesnt connect
[01:44] <mnoir> sumit - the mountpoint has to exist - make it using mkdir
[01:44] <normmac> evilghost i'm new to linux and ubuntu, i just ran that command i'd love thos drivers
[01:44] <h3xis> imbecile, in terminal run sudo ifup eth1
[01:44] <n2diy> h3xis: I wasn't following the thread, but how do you know edgy won't break something else? It is a crap shoot.
[01:44] <bimberi> GhostFreeman: no need.  Just use 'sh file.sh'
[01:44] <evilghost> normmac:  NP, let me tgz them.
[01:45] <Dislo> anybody have any experience with smbldap-install
[01:45] <h3xis> n2diy, i suppose it's worth a try :P
[01:45] <h3xis> imbecile, what kind of sys do you have?
[01:45] <taliesin_> Hello all... I'm a complete noob and I'm a little lost. I installed Edgy Eft and left windows Xp on my hard disck too. I can't access windows from the menu because the keyboard won't work until Ubuntu loads. Do you think this is a hardware problem or is there an issue with the install of Ubuntu causing the problem?
[01:45] <K1k4> goodevening
[01:45] <genius314> Hey how do I get MIDI to work?
[01:45] <n2diy> h3xis: Backup, backup, and backup.
[01:45] <Sumit> Whooooopy, it workEDD!!!!
[01:45] <arrenlex> genius314: Do you have a hardware midi mixer?
[01:45] <bouncing> A serial device should appear on /dev/ttyS0, right?
[01:45] <imbecile> gateway mx6920
[01:46] <h3xis> n2diy, what is this backup you speak of
[01:46] <imbecile> h3xis, gateway mx6920
[01:46] <genius314> arrenlex: I guess
[01:46] <h3xis> imbecile, k, just curious
[01:46] <arrenlex> Sumit: This folder will be lost at next rbeoot. If you want that to be done every time, you'd have to add it to fstab.
[01:46] <imbecile> h3xis, ifup: interface eth1 already configured
[01:46] <mnoir> Sumit: tell us how you REALLY feel :)
[01:46] <bimberi> bouncing: yes, if that's the first (or only) serial port
[01:46] <arrenlex> genius314: Oh, then I can't help you. Sorry. :(
[01:46] <Sumit> I feel so HIGH
[01:46] <evilghost> normmac:  Trying to DCC you the drivers now
[01:46] <n2diy> h3xis: Backup, your data, in case the upgrade fails, and you have to do a re-install.
[01:46] <h3xis> n2diy, do you know the command to have a wireless interface connect to an AP off hand?
[01:46] <genius314> arrenlex: What is a hardware midi mixer?
[01:46] <Sumit> now does this happen automatically?
[01:47] <bouncing> bimberi: I'm having trouble getting gpsbabel to identify my gps on a serial port, but I'm not sure if it's really using the right /dev file
[01:47] <arrenlex> genius314: Uh... like, your sound card is capable of playing midi files, I think.
[01:47] <h3xis> n2diy, i know :P i have webmin backup my stuff to my servers
[01:47] <normmac> evilsghost: i might need more help i'm completely new to this
[01:47] <genius314> arrenlex: Then yeah, I have that.
[01:47] <Sumit> I;ve put it into pmount,all???
[01:47] <n2diy> h3xis: not sure, ifup wlan0?
[01:47] <imbecile> h3xis,  when i click on network manager i dont get the drop down of wireless networks like i should
[01:47] <arrenlex> genius314: ...I really don't know much or anything about midi. Wikipedia will tell you what a hardware mixer is.
[01:47] <genius314> arrenlex: Ok.
[01:47] <h3xis> imbecile, go into Networking in the gnome menu
[01:47] <h00t> can anyone tell me why in the latest ubuntu i don't have the same level of flexibility in gnome desktop as in previous release and/or debian why can i put 2 panels on one side of the screen (one left other right)  or why do i have only 2 (instead of 4) workspaces
[01:47] <h3xis> n2diy, he tried, all it said was that it's already active
[01:48] <imbecile> h3xis,  ok
[01:48] <normmac> evilsghost: i'm not getting a dcc can you put it on sendpsace or something?
[01:48] <h3xis> imbecile, see your card?
[01:48] <normmac> evilsghost: or ftp
[01:48] <h3xis> h00t, you can configure that yourself. that's not ubuntu's doing ;)
[01:48] <genius314> Can someone help me get MIDI to work?
[01:48] <fowgre> I'm new to Linux and more than a bit intimidated and confused after looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingCompilers and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java. Can you point me to some docs or a discussion board where I can find out more about the pros/cons of Sun java, Free java, GNU java, etc. on Ubuntu?
[01:48] <n2diy> h3xis: start pinging stuff.
[01:48] <imbecile> h3xis,  yes and it is active
[01:48] <bimberi> bouncing: you could try /dev/ttyS1...  or use a terminal program such as minicom to send some data to various ports and see if there's a response
[01:48] <h3xis> imbecile, okay is there a properties button or something? (i'm not in linux atm)
[01:49] <mnoir> hoot - i just made 4 panels with like 3 mouse cliks
[01:49] <arrenlex> fowgre: Sun java has been released under the GPL, so in a very short time sun java WILL be free java.
[01:49] <arrenlex> fowgre: I strongly advise you to install sun java. It actually, you know, works.
[01:49] <bouncing> bimberi: ttyS{1,2,3} actually can't be opened as far as I can tell.
[01:49] <mnoir> h00t: right click the 2 desktops and add more.
[01:49] <trev__> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:49] <h00t> h3xis, i'm used to configuring it from the desktop as w/ every other distro do i have to edit txt files now manually
[01:49] <imbecile> h3xis,  yes i have all the info in there already
[01:49] <cello_rasp> how do i print to image?
[01:49] <bouncing> bimberi: If I try catting them, I get an I/O error
[01:49] <trev__> sorry
[01:49] <trev__> wrong command
[01:49] <h3xis> h00t, no, just right click on panels and play around with stuff
[01:49] <BULLE> arrenlex: well, as it already IS released, it IS free java, the source is there for you to download, if you want =)
[01:49] <bimberi> bouncing: hm, probably something else then
[01:50] <DarkLegacy> Hey guys
[01:50] <Sumit> Rite, so I can now access it, But it does not appear on the desktop, nor in mycomputer, how do I sort that out PLEASE
[01:50] <DarkLegacy> I'm hosting a FEAR Dedicated server
[01:50] <DarkLegacy> and for the updated punkbuster file
[01:50] <h3xis> imbecile, isnt there a drop down box that shows APs around you?
[01:50] <DarkLegacy> It's a .run file
[01:50] <mnoir> h00t: everything you mention i changed in the last 3 seconds
[01:50] <DarkLegacy> pbsetup.run
[01:50] <DarkLegacy> How do "run" it?
[01:50] <arrenlex> BULLE: Yes, I know. (17:49:05) arrenlex: fowgre: Sun java *has been* released
[01:50] <bouncing> bimberi: Perhaps gpsbabel doesn't know how to talk to my device
[01:50] <imbecile> h3xis,  nope thats the problem im having
[01:50] <BULLE> arrenlex: oh, sorry
[01:50] <kitche> arrenlex BULLE: I wish Sun Java will be open source Java and not just the implmentation
[01:50] <arrenlex> BULLE: "short time" was just referring to the fact that it's not in the repositories yet.
[01:50] <DarkLegacy> How do I run a .run file?
[01:50] <h00t> mnoir, where is the "2 deskops" i should r-click on to add more ...
[01:50] <Chousuke> DarkLegacy: sh file.run
[01:50] <arrenlex> DarkLegacy: chmod +x <file.run> && ./<file.run>
[01:50] <DarkLegacy> Perfect thanks
[01:50] <Chousuke> or ./file.run
[01:50] <h3xis> imbecile, sounds like something is broken. i would advise that you back up anything that you may have and install edgy.
[01:50] <bimberi> bouncing: possibly
[01:51] <bimberi> h00t: on the switcher applet
[01:51] <BULLE> kitche: not sure what you mean with that
[01:51] <arrenlex> Chousuke: That's iffy. .run may not be a script
[01:51] <DarkLegacy> Cool
[01:51] <DarkLegacy> that worked
[01:51] <Chousuke> arrenlex: true, but usually they are :P
[01:51] <svish> What general movie player do you recommend for linux?
[01:51] <mnoir> h00t: the applet that shows the mini desktops is in the lower right on my panel
[01:51] <BULLE> kitche: its under GPL, so any "interlectual property" is licenced with it basicly
[01:51] <kitche> BULLE: the java language is not open source only Sun's implmentation of it is
[01:51] <arrenlex> mplayer!
[01:51] <h3xis> svish, vlc
[01:51] <imbecile> h3xis,  I had it working last week.. think something got messed up in installation?
[01:51] <h00t> mnoir,  got it
[01:51] <bimberi> totem :P
[01:51] <Terminus> svish: i haven't had problems with totem-xine. =)
[01:51] <Chousuke> kitche: the language? o
[01:51] <h3xis> imbecile, it's possible. could be anything.
[01:51] <BULLE> kitche: the lang specs are all freely available for you to use
[01:52] <Chousuke> kitche: what do you mean with "open source language"?
[01:52] <svish> totem-xine.. is that the same as totem?
[01:52] <BULLE> kitche: sun has never stoped people from doing their own java implementations
[01:52] <svish> Totem Movie Player?
[01:52] <bimberi> svish: totem can use either gstreamer or xine at the backend (Ubuntu installs totem-gstreamer by default)
[01:52] <kitche> BULLE: yes implemntations
[01:53] <gianzil> hi, which is the best rad tool for python? i'm new to this language. thanks
[01:53] <h00t> ok ...now how can i put 2 panels on one side of the desktop ... in properties it only gives me 4 orientations (top, bottom, left, right)  i want to put 2 on one side that way i have more space ... i know i did this before
[01:53] <svish> ok
[01:53] <h3xis> imbecile, if you just recently installed 6.06 and cant get wireless to work and it's not a big deal i would just download the edgy ISO and reinstall. i guarantee your wireless will work in it. edgy is stable enough to run as feisty fawn
[01:53] <thunder_storm> hi everybody
[01:53] <BULLE> kitche: you can add whatever you want to yoru implementations aswell, new language constructs, whatever
[01:53] <h3xis> imbecile, as feisty fawn is approachine
[01:53] <BULLE> kitche: sun has no controll of that whatsoever
[01:53] <svish> bimberi: so xine version is better or?
[01:53] <mnoir> h00t: try dragging a panel across?
[01:53] <bds> kitche: Java is now GPL
[01:53] <thunder_storm> i'm a german guy and have a little question...
[01:53] <modplug> i can't get my wireless network to show up in administration -> networking... how can i make it find it
[01:53] <modplug> ?
[01:54] <harrisony> svish, it makes totem use the xine backend
[01:54] <Chousuke> As far as I know, Java is as free as C is now.
[01:54] <h3xis> thunder_storm, it is what?
[01:54] <BULLE> Chousuke: it is
[01:54] <imbecile> h3xis,  thanks for your help
[01:54] <mnoir> h00t: worked on mine
[01:54] <svish> ok
[01:54] <genius314> Can someone help me with sound problems? Audacity, Rosegarden, and Creox give me errors.
[01:54] <bimberi> svish: in my experience totem-xine is more stable and plays more formats.  Others' mmv.
[01:54] <BULLE> Chousuke: only diff might be that sun actualy have the name "java" trademarked, but im not sure
[01:54] <thunder_storm> h3xis: i'm searchin' for a little card-game and a board-game
[01:54] <Chousuke> except C is standardised and Java isn't (correct me if I'm wrong)
[01:54] <h3xis> thunder_storm, what kind
[01:54] <fowgre> arrenlex: I've used Sun java under Win but I was under impression that noobs like me are dissuaded from software that has to be manually installed instead of a Synaptic package?
[01:54] <kitche> Chousuke BULLE: the java language is still under license of JCP
[01:55] <thunder_storm> h3xis: the german word is "maumau" for the card-game
[01:55] <Chousuke> kitche: what do you mean with the "Java language"?
[01:55] <h3xis> thunder_storm, k i'll look
[01:55] <taliesin_> Hello, I'm having a problem with Mozilla or with Ubuntu. When I go online I can only surf a few pages before the browser will freeze and it will continuosuly load a web page but never actually load it. Then if you try it again it says there is a problem with the network. This happens every time...
[01:55] <h00t> mnoir, how do i grab ... the shit that's "on" the panel is taking up and overlaping the panel itself
[01:55] <Chousuke> kitche: you can create your own version of Java if you want.
[01:55] <imbecile> h3xis,  how do i install on the top of dapper drake? I dont want to have to reinstall windows as I am running a dual boot system
[01:55] <Chousuke> kitche: Java the language that is, not the VM implementation
[01:56] <h3xis> imbecile, is dapper running on the first or second partition?
[01:56] <mnoir> h00t: ya gotta find a blank space to grab - it can be a challenge :)
[01:56] <kitche> Chousuke: Java is a programming language which is under JCP still according to Sun due to 3rd party property
[01:56] <bimberi> fowgre: sun java is available via synaptic (in the multiverse repository)
[01:56] <h3xis> imbecile, what i mean is, which did you install first, windows or dapper?
[01:56] <Chousuke> Just like you could create your own variant of C
[01:56] <mnoir> h00t: btw, mentioning shit is frowned upon
[01:56] <Chousuke> kitche: how can a programming language be under some licence?
[01:56] <imbecile> h3xis,  its the first os that shows up in grub
[01:56] <genius314> Rosegarden gives me an error: "Sequencer startup failed: MIDI subsystem has failed to initialise"
[01:56] <Chousuke> kitche: I can understand if libraries are.
[01:56] <Chousuke> or compiler implementations
[01:57] <Chousuke> but a language?
[01:57] <h3xis> imbecile, did you install windows first, though, before you installed dapper?
[01:57] <imbecile> h3xis,  i installed windows first
[01:57] <bds> Sun is open sourcing all of its Java platform implementations under same license (called GPL Version 2) used by the GNU/Linux operating system.
[01:57] <_bt> does anyone offer updated kernel packages for ubuntu?
[01:57] <Dislo> anybody have any experience with smbldap-install
[01:57] <BULLE> Chousuke: its realy a mooth point as i understand it, as its under GPL now
[01:57] <bds> http://www.sun.com/software/opensource/java/faq.jsp
[01:57] <h3xis> imbecile, wont be a problem then. just tell the ubuntu installer in edgy to use dapper's already partitioned space and it wont touch windows
[01:57] <Chousuke> BULLE: yeah, all the libraries and the VM, right?
[01:57] <BULLE> Chousuke: and gpl requires you to grant interlectual property rights aswell, to the stuff used in teh code
[01:57] <BULLE> Chousuke: ye
[01:57] <imbecile> h3xis,  nice thanks
[01:57] <mnoir> Chousuke: programming languages are perfectly good intellectual property
[01:58] <kitche> BULLE: is th at why Java is under the exemption part of GPL
[01:58] <svish> will synaptics remove installed dependencies when they are not used anymore?
[01:58] <BULLE> mnoir: in the countries where interlectual proeprty even exist
[01:58] <Chousuke> it's a buzzword to me :/
[01:58] <h3xis> svish, no
[01:58] <bimberi> svish: no
[01:58] <imbecile> lol i just realized the way ubuntu versions are based on english alphabet
[01:58] <mnoir> Chousuke: if you create it, it's yours.
[01:58] <mnoir> BULLE: :)
[01:58] <Chousuke> that's copyright.
[01:59] <svish> so its just like in windows? the more programs I install and uninstall, the messier it will be?
[01:59] <bds> IP is a concept that encompasses patent, trademark, and copyright law
[01:59] <h3xis> imbecile, not really :P warth warthog - hoary hedgehog - etc
[01:59] <arrenlex> fowgre: You can install java from synaptic.
[01:59] <arrenlex> !sun-java5-jre | fowgre
[01:59] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7279 kB, installed size 16132 kB
[01:59] <michaelfavia> anyone know of webcams that are supported out of the box by ubuntu?
[01:59] <LadyNikon> hey.. can you do a non graphical install from the live cd?
[01:59] <mnoir> Chousuke: a license is very specifically the explanation of rights, granted or not
[01:59] <mnoir> and that is all
[01:59] <imbecile> h3xis,  oh i thought cuz Dapper,Edgy,Fiesty
[01:59] <eitan> Hi guys, I would love some help about configuring my TI FlashMedia internal SD card reader on a Sony Vaio Laptop using Ubu 6.06.  I believe it requires the modules tifm_7xx1, tifm_core, and tifm_sd but I don't have those modules installed no know where to get them.  Thanks!
[01:59] <modplug> what is wmaster?
[01:59] <arrenlex> LadyNikon: No. You'd need the alternate CD.
[02:00] <arrenlex> !alternate | LadyNikon
[02:00] <h00t> mnoir, check this out ... it worked but the problem is that since you cannot specify right/left the panels (if both not hidden) arrange on top of each other... they will though hide in 2 seperate corners BTW i guarantee you this was a feature taken out by ubuntu ppl to have "sensible defaults" as they put it ... BS i tell you BS
[02:00] <modplug> i've got both wmaster and wlan0
[02:00] <ubotu> LadyNikon: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[02:00] <h3xis> LadyNikon, not sure (greetings from #2600 btw) the alternate cd might
[02:00] <LadyNikon> arrenlex: uh thanks..
[02:00] <LadyNikon> hi h3xis
[02:00] <mnoir> h00t: maybe - complain to them...
[02:00] <genius314> Audacity gives me this error: "There was an error initializing the audio i/o layer."
[02:00] <genius314> Rosegarden gives me this error: "Sequencer startup failed: MIDI subsystem has failed to initialise"
[02:00] <genius314> And Creox just says: "Error:" When I try to click Play.
[02:00] <fowgre> IRC noob also and having trouble keeping up with all the msgs... logging responses for later review... thx 2 all
[02:01] <mnoir> h00t: mine are side by side and both are not hidden
[02:02] <svish> WOW. Vlc is having BIG trouble with mp4, lol. and wmv didnt get any picture..
[02:02] <Sumit> Room this is my last question, please help evilghost,kitche, I cant write to the new drive/mount point, how do I change the access rites?
[02:02] <arrenlex> !w32codecs | svish
[02:02] <genius314> Can anyone help me?
[02:02] <ubotu> svish: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:02] <Chousuke> Like apple does with OS X
[02:02] <kitche> Sumit: you need to use umask
[02:02] <svish> arrenlex: they are already installed, hehe
[02:02] <arrenlex> Chousuke: I'm sure
[02:02] <arrenlex> Chousuke: java's slow
[02:03] <Sumit> umask???
[02:03] <arrenlex> Chousuke: n
[02:03] <arrenlex> Chousuke: e
[02:03] <h00t> mnoir, right click on the panels properties and tell me if both say the same orientation (ie "bottom")
[02:03] <arrenlex> Chousuke: ess will pose n
[02:03] <arrenlex> Chousuke: o problemEXCEPTION
[02:03] <svish> arrenlex: ... so should work imo..
[02:03] <Chousuke> arrenlex: ?
[02:03] <Sumit> it didn;t do much kitche??
[02:03] <Chousuke> oh, right.
[02:03] <arrenlex> !kidding | arrenlex
[02:03] <ubotu> arrenlex: You may think your joke is funny, but you may confuse new users or irritate people who actually start answering your question :)
[02:03] <arrenlex> Sorry arrenlex. :(
[02:03] <Chousuke> Java's not necessarily slow.
[02:04] <eitan> Hi guys, I would love some help about configuring my TI FlashMedia internal SD card reader on a Sony Vaio Laptop using Ubu 6.06.  I believe it requires the modules tifm_7xx1, tifm_core, and tifm_sd but I don't have those modules installed no know where to get them.  Thanks!
[02:04] <mnoir> h00t: yes - both say right
[02:04] <Chousuke> I mean, people are using interpreted languages and no-one's complaining about their slowness.
[02:04] <kitche> Chousuke: well it'll be hard without the API and the specifications being open sourced
[02:04] <bds> Java is just big boned
[02:04] <h00t> which ubuntu are you using
[02:04] <Chousuke> kitche: err?
[02:04] <Chousuke> kitche: the whole VM is open source. and the libraries.
[02:05] <Chousuke> You don't need anything else.
[02:05] <mnoir> h00t: i made them different widths so i could tell them apart
[02:05] <kitche> Chousuke: you mean the classpath's and no they aren't open source
[02:05] <Chousuke> kitche: er, weren't they open sourced just recently?
[02:05] <h00t> mnoir, which version of ubuntu are you using
[02:05] <taliesin_> I have two problems that I can't make sense of. #1 I can't select windows XP from the boot menu because the keyboard won't work until Ubuntu starts up. #2 When I web surf with FireFox I can only surf a few web sites before the browser stops loading web pages and tells me there is a problem with the network, this happens repeatedly. If  I restart Ubuntu it operates as stated previously.
[02:05] <jpopesku> hey all -- I'm having an issue getting my Canon n640p ex scanner up and running.  The SANE site says this scanner works/compatible, but when I open xsane, it doesn't find the scanner.  Instead, it finds my ATI TV Wonder pro card (video0)...   anyone have a problem like this?
[02:05] <Chousuke> I mean, they weren't at first, but as far as I know they are now.
[02:05] <jadacyrus> How do I change my grub splash screen and the ubuntu loading screen..?
[02:05] <mnoir> h00t: this issue i am testing on 6.10
[02:06] <h00t> me too
[02:06] <mnoir> hmm
[02:06] <Rynoo> jadacyrus: very carefully.
[02:06] <mnoir> i know i have no pending updates
[02:06] <jadacyrus> Rynoo: what files are they
[02:06] <sandy16> my master volume is being set to pcm rather than master. how can i change that to control master?
[02:06] <Rynoo> jadacyrus: the correct ones?
[02:07] <jadacyrus> obviously
[02:07] <h00t> mnoir, i swear to you i can't get them to be unhidden next to each other on the bottom only on top of each other
[02:07] <mnoir> h00t: there may be a bug - maybe worth reporting.  for me, no since i do not like so many panels anyway
[02:08] <mnoir> h00t: i do believe you - linux works in mysterious ways
[02:08] <taliesin_> Will some one please help me?
[02:08] <svish> is there a way to search and remove unused dependencies then?
[02:08] <h3xis> taliesin_, with what
[02:08] <h3xis> svish, nope
[02:08] <h00t> mnoir, well thanx for you help and testing ... i'll try to look for some help on gnome pages
[02:08] <svish> grrrreat :)
[02:08] <mnoir> svish: there is an orphan finder
[02:08] <h00t> mnoir, seriously thanx
[02:08] <bimberi> svish: yes, with debfoster
[02:08] <mnoir> don't remember the name
[02:09] <h3xis> haha svish, i mean you could go through synaptic and manually throw the ones you dont need out haha
[02:09] <kitche> Chousuke: according to sun.com/software/opensource/java/faq.jsp the classpath's are under GPL exemption which means that they are not GPL licensed
[02:09] <jadacyrus> How do I change my grub splash screen and the ubuntu loading screen..?
[02:09] <mnoir> h3xis: yes - exactly
[02:09] <taliesin_> When I boot up the computer I cant get to Windows xp because the keyboard won't work untill ubuntu loads
[02:09] <gnomefreak> !grub | jadacyrus
[02:09] <ubotu> jadacyrus: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:09] <set1> hep me.. hep me!! I can't select 1600x1200
[02:09] <h3xis> taliesin_, is it usb or ps2?
[02:09] <bimberi> !usplash | jadacyrus
[02:09] <ubotu> jadacyrus: usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[02:09] <Chousuke> kitche: hmmh
[02:09] <svish> h3xis: well... that is sort of what I wanted to not have to do :P thing is I now have installed alot of junk because i dont know what anything is in this linux world lol
[02:09] <gnomefreak> taliesin_: unplug keyboard and plug it back in does that help?
[02:09] <taliesin_> usb
[02:10] <bimberi> !splash | jadacyrus
[02:10] <ubotu> jadacyrus: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image using !gconf-editor
[02:10] <Chousuke> kitche: it seems to me that it only talks about the specs. ie. the documentation.
[02:10] <tritium> set1: I would hep you if I knew what it meant to hep ;)
[02:10] <svish> h3xis: and not sure if I want to reinstall linux already :p
[02:10] <h3xis> taliesin_, er...not so sure then :<
[02:10] <taliesin_> I've tried unplugging it
[02:10] <gnomefreak> bimberi: he said grub splash and i gave him link already
[02:10] <Chousuke> kitche: so you have the source code, which is GPL
[02:10] <h3xis> svish, what do you mean "unused" deps?
[02:10] <Chousuke> kitche: and you can look at it and document it yourself.
[02:10] <gnomefreak> taliesin_: hook up another keyboard
[02:10] <mnoir> svish - the pkg is called gtkorphan or deborphan
[02:10] <eitan> Hi guys, I would love some help about configuring my TI FlashMedia internal SD card reader on a Sony Vaio Laptop using Ubu 6.06.  I believe it requires the modules tifm_7xx1, tifm_core, and tifm_sd but I don't have those modules installed no know where to get them.  Thanks!
[02:10] <bimberi> gnomefreak: "ubuntu loading screen"
[02:10] <Chousuke> kitche: but sun is not helping you it seems.
[02:10] <kitche> Chousuke: well I m looking at the faq
[02:11] <gnomefreak> bimberi: i saw him ask about grub
[02:11] <taliesin_> You think it's a hardware problem
[02:11] <gnomefreak> taliesin_: yes i do
[02:11] <svish> h3xis: I mean that a lot of the programs I have installed with synaptics, have popped up a message with "these will also be installed because this software needs them". usually things starting with lib
[02:11] <Sumit> taliesin, have you tried going into bios, and selecting legecgy keyboard support
[02:11] <taliesin_> I don't have one to test with right now
[02:11] <Sumit> or something like it
[02:11] <gnomefreak> keyboard doesnt depend on anything outside of the port on your pc unless you want special things to work
[02:11] <Chousuke> it says "we are not open sourcing the java programming language" but I have no clue what that encompasses.
[02:11] <Sumit> cheers room,
[02:11] <h3xis> svish, yeah. well, it doesnt hurt to have them and they probably dont take up too much space. i guess try using that app that someone here just suggested :P
[02:11] <set1> how can I choose 1600x1200 please?
[02:12] <Chousuke> they _are_ open sourcing the implementation. which has to mean the libraries.
[02:12] <bruenig> !fixres
[02:12] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:12] <taliesin_> Sumit: No how would I do that
[02:12] <kitche> Chousuke: the libraries was always open sourced just not GPL'd
[02:12] <gnomefreak> taliesin_: you cant because you cant get into bios without a working keyboard
[02:12] <Edgy_marti> ubuntu-fr
[02:12] <Edgy_marti> #ubuntu-fr
[02:13] <gnomefreak> Edgy_marti: /j #ubuntu-fr
[02:13] <taliesin_> That's what I figured
[02:13] <Chousuke> kitche: right. but making them GPL is quite an improvement.
[02:13] <taliesin_> I'll just have to wait untill I get a new keyboard
[02:13] <gnomefreak> taliesin_: do the lights flash on keyboard when pc boots?
[02:13] <taliesin_> I haven't checked
[02:13] <AdamKili> why does ubuntu have such trouble with intel celeron processors? I can't upgrade to 6.10 from 6.06 cause the graphical or terminal mode never comes up after upgrading.
[02:14] <eitan>  Hi guys.  Which repository has the modules tifm_7xx1, tifm_core, and tifm_sd?  I need those for my internal SD card, and I cannot find them anywhere
[02:14] <nowhere> AdamKili: ubuntu doesn't like cheap people
[02:14] <taliesin_> gnome: could you help with another problem?
[02:14] <gnomefreak> taliesin_: if not you need a new keyboard most likely if they flash than its up in the air. are you not using a keyboard now?
[02:14] <ramin> how would you know
[02:14] <gnomefreak> taliesin_: depends what it is
[02:16] <barbarella> nowhere:nice...and it came from nowhere!!
[02:16] <set1> !fixres from a terminal?
[02:16] <taliesin_> well, when I surf with fire fox it'll stop loading pages after a while and will continue to do this even if I restart FireFox but if I reboot it work for a while then does the same thing
[02:16] <svish> do the windowsbutton do anything in linux btw?
[02:16] <h3xis> set1, you need to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. there's a section on adding resolutions and you need to add yours
[02:16] <gnomefreak> taliesin_: sounds like a memory leak
[02:16] <mnoir> set1: look at the links provided in the fixres response from ubotu
[02:16] <bimberi> !winkey | svish
[02:16] <ubotu> svish: To use the windows key in keyboard shortcuts as a modifier (like ALT): Run 'xmodmap' and see what Super_L corresponds to.  Then follow method B at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560 and use <mod4> (or whatever Super_L corresponded to with 'xmodmap') as the modifier. For example, a shortcut to use windows key + d would look like '<mod4>d'
[02:17] <taliesin_> what can I do
[02:17] <gnomefreak> taliesin_: what version of ff on what version of ubuntu?
[02:17] <taliesin_> Unsure
[02:17] <Pelo> svish, you can program then,  I use them to open the terminal  : ))
[02:17] <AdamKili> nowhere: thanks that helps a ton
[02:17] <tirus89> help on install
[02:17] <gnomefreak> apt-cache policy firefox (will tell you firefox version) lsb_release -a will tell you ubuntu version
[02:17] <svish> bimberi: cool, thanks :)
[02:17] <LinTux> When in GIMP I get a mouse trail, how do I get rid of it?
[02:17] <Pelo> tirus89,  more details
[02:17] <falco_> hello, I'm French !
[02:18] <taliesin_> It's the version that came with Edgy
[02:18] <bimberi> svish: np :)
[02:18] <gnomefreak> !fr | falco_
[02:18] <ubotu> falco_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:18] <Pelo> falco_,  #ubuntu-fr
[02:18] <mnoir> falco_: hello - I'm not!
[02:18] <tirus89> pelo, i start the live cd, and then all the ok stuff happens, then i get a black screen with a _ frozen and then nothing happens
[02:18] <Phuzion> Is there an easy way to permanently leave a one line terminal or something like it in the top of my gnome?
[02:19] <Pelo> tirus89, sounds like a borked cd,  make another one and try again
[02:19] <IntuitiveNipple> eitan: have you seen this forum post? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311914
[02:19] <bimberi> tirus89: tried the safe graphics mode boot option?
[02:19] <tirus89> pelo, got this one in the mail from ubuntu
[02:19] <tirus89> bimberi, yesh, i get the same thing but with errors flashing on the screen
[02:19] <taliesin_> gnome: It's the version that came with Edgy
[02:19] <Pelo> tirus89,  ouch !!,  but all the same, try dling it from a torrent
[02:19] <tirus89> pelo, um torrent?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> Phuzion: there is an applet for gnome panel (cant think of the name) or you can use kauke :)
[02:20] <svish> bimberi: hm.. it wont make any with Super_L in the keyboard shortcuts
[02:20] <gnomefreak> taliesin_: are you using edgy?
[02:20] <taliesin_> Yes
[02:20] <Pelo> tirus89,  bittorrent , just a bit eaiser then ftp
[02:20] <set1> is there a script that modifies /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[02:20] <svish> bimberi: well, I can make one, which is Super_L but it wont let me have anything after that :(
[02:20] <Phuzion> gnomefreak: any idea of where to find this applet?
[02:20] <gnomefreak> taliesin_: i would file a bug report on malone.
[02:20] <h3xis> set1, no you use an editor to do it as sudo
[02:20] <lupine_85> set1: modifies it in what way?
[02:20] <gnomefreak> Phuzion: hold on let me see if i have it installed
[02:20] <Phuzion> ok
[02:20] <tirus89> can you just give me a link so i can download the iso and then tell me how to burn on cd
[02:20] <lupine_85> you can use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to generate a whole new one
[02:20] <bimberi> svish: yes, you need to use the procedure described in that factoid
[02:20] <mnoir> Phuzion: you might check out yakuake
[02:21] <taliesin_> whats malone
[02:21] <svish> bimberi: aha, lol
[02:21] <bruenig> !burniso
[02:21] <ubotu> To burn an ISO image of a CD in Linux, Mac OS or Windows, read the howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[02:21] <Genrl_Zod> apparently on knoppix bootcd there is a utility that fixes, the ntfs.sys error the sum win xp users may enounter was wondering, anyone know the name of this utility and can save me downloaded the 700mb cd
[02:21] <Pelo> tirus89, http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[02:22] <mnoir> Phuzion: sorry yukuake is for kde and might not be worth installing due to the other stuff you would need unless you run other kde stuff
[02:22] <gnomefreak> Phuzion: no im not sure i would search gnome in synaptic
[02:22] <tirus89> pelo, wow, 40 mins for the download
[02:23] <Phuzion> gnomefreak, thanks anyways
[02:23] <Pelo> tirus89,  lucky you
[02:24] <svish> how does debfoster work with synaptics? will they work against eachother sort of?
[02:25] <mnoir> svish: they all use the same apt config
[02:25] <bimberi> svish: no
[02:25] <bruenig> svish, debfoster tracks oprhaned dependencies, it is fine
[02:25] <set1> i did sudo -e /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it wouldn't let me write changes
[02:25] <tirus89> Pelo, i checked the cd, it says 0 checksums failed
[02:25] <svish> ok
[02:25] <gnomefreak> svish: they both use dpkg so you can only run one at a time. if you remove things with debfoster it will remove them from system so synaptic will show them as not installed
[02:25] <svish> ill try it out then :)
[02:25] <bruenig> svish, with edgy, apt-get has apt-get autoremove so debfoster seems obsolete
[02:25] <taliesin_> gnome: whats malone
[02:26] <gnomefreak> !bugs | taliesin_
[02:26] <h3xis> set1, try sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:26] <ubotu> taliesin_: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[02:26] <svish> gnomefreak: yeah, but what if I install something with synaptics. will defoster remove it again?
[02:26] <h3xis> set1, then press the letter "i" on your keyboard to start editing
[02:26] <set1> ty all
[02:26] <gnomefreak> svish: depends on what you tell it to do
[02:26] <svish> ok
[02:26] <svish> well, ill try it out
[02:26] <svish> lol
[02:26] <bimberi> !malone | taliesin_
[02:26] <ubotu> taliesin_: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[02:27] <tirus89> whats the termanal command to install
[02:27] <h3xis> sudo apt-get install?
[02:27] <tirus89> thx
[02:28] <set1> is there a trick to adding text with vim?
[02:28] <h3xis> set1, no. you press "i" and then just start typing and editing stuff
[02:28] <lupine_85> set1: yeah. you exit vim and use nano instead :D
[02:28] <h3xis> it should say INSERT in bold letters on the bottom if youre doing it right
[02:28] <h3xis> nano can suck it. vim > *
[02:28] <stonarmusic> anyone know why my fullscreen video looks weird? when I go to full screen it goes black, then when it comes back the screen is squashed and only half of the window is showing
[02:28] <lupine_85> h3xis: yeah, if you know how to use it
[02:29] <h3xis> haha
[02:29] <lupine_85> although I quite like kate for dev stuff
[02:29] <taliesin_> Ok thanks guys ;-) I'll check out the links
[02:29] <mnoir> set1: vim is a modal editor with many commands.  it will take some time to learn.  nano is simpler, gedit better still for a quick edit when you do not know vi very well
[02:29] <tirus89> i did the install command and it says reading package lists....done, and segmentation faulty tree 50%, what now?
[02:30] <stonarmusic> it's only like that with mplayer and openarena, totem plays fullscreen perfectly
[02:30] <taliesin_> Appreciate the help gnomefreak
[02:30] <lupine_85> tirus89: panicking is usually a good start :/
[02:30] <lupine_85> apt should not segfauly
[02:30] <lupine_85> segfault*
[02:30] <h3xis> haha
[02:30] <tirus89> wha?
[02:30] <tirus89> someone help me out on this one
[02:30] <h3xis> segfaults in apt-get would make me cry
[02:30] <mnoir> set1: make darn sure to copy your file prior to editing as you may need to restore it
[02:30] <val__> laptop question....hardware detection in ubuntu seems to only recognise my chipset...which integrates video and wifi and so forth,,,is that common
[02:30] <trinitrogen> Im trying to rdesktop to my win2003 machine but the screen seems to be stuck blue, are there any known issues with Beryl?
[02:30] <tirus89> what i do now?
[02:31] <set1> i never used vim looks like either vim or nano would have worked
[02:31] <h3xis> tirus89, hide.
[02:31] <lupine_85> trinitrogen: beryl + rdesktop will be painful
[02:31] <tirus89> im serious about this, what do I do now?
[02:31] <trinitrogen> lupine_85 any alternatives?
[02:31] <mnoir> set1: have you changed the file yet?
[02:31] <Pelo> tirus89,  relax , go make some coffee, wait for the  iso to finish downloading, and install from your new cd
[02:31] <lupine_85> trinitrogen: yeah. kwin or metacity
[02:31] <tirus89> Pelo, im not downloading that iso
[02:31] <realitychx> anyone know a visio alternative for my buntu box
[02:31] <realitychx> tia
[02:32] <h3xis> realitychx, haha ive been looking for one for weeks to no avail
[02:32] <lupine_85> tirus89: make sure your sources.list is sane then run apt-cache gencaches ?
[02:32] <lupine_85> that might fix it
[02:32] <realitychx> sucks
[02:32] <Pelo> g'night folks
[02:32] <IntuitiveNipple> realitychx: I think Dia is similar
[02:32] <realitychx> have u used it?
[02:33] <IntuitiveNipple> Let me check - i download so much stuff to try i forget the names
[02:33] <tirus89> lupine, invalid operation gencaches
[02:33] <trev__> i found a stream labeled RTSP protocol in firefox and advertised as a podcast on a webpage, does anyone know how to open it ?
[02:33] <IntuitiveNipple> realitychx: http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/
[02:34] <IntuitiveNipple> And yes I used it and preferred it to Visio
[02:34] <mnoir> realitychx: look at inkscape, xfig, kivio.  do not expect a 1 for 1 replacement
[02:34] <realitychx> yea i've heard
[02:34] <IntuitiveNipple> yeah, i tried inkscape too, but preferred dia
[02:35] <mnoir> realitychx: visio seems to be one for which a real good replacement is challenging
[02:35] <realitychx> thanks for all the help guys
[02:35] <tirus89> ok, i did the sudo install and now its "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[02:35] <h3xis> tirus89, sounds good
[02:35] <tirus89> h3xis, now what?
[02:35] <h3xis> tirus89, idk you tell me
[02:35] <val__> laptop question....hardware detection in ubuntu seems to only recognise my chipset...which integrates video and wifi and so forth,,,is that common
[02:36] <h3xis> val__, yeah, sometimes
[02:36] <tirus89> h3xis, fuck man, i dont know, ima mac/windows guy, i dont know what the fuck to do in linux
[02:36] <trinitrogen> lupine_85 I switched over to metacity but its not doing anything either...
[02:36] <h3xis> tirus89, what are you wanting to do?
[02:36] <val__> h3, does that make it impossible to change the video configuration etc?
[02:36] <h3xis> val__, i dont know
[02:36] <mnoir> tirus89: one suggestion - get the soap in yer mouth and wash
[02:36] <tirus89> h3xis, i want to know what the hell that read out means and what to do now, restart, what!?!?!
[02:36] <LameBMX> lol @ tirus89 and h3xis
[02:37] <h3xis> val__, i think
[02:37] <h3xis> tirus89, i have no idea what the hell youre even trying to do. im just catching some of your questions every now and then
[02:37] <LameBMX> tiredbones, no need to restart
[02:37] <LameBMX> err tirus89
[02:37] <tirus89> mnoir, im sorry, but my frustration with the irc channel is beyond my limit
[02:37] <tirus89> LameBMX, so what do I do, i have a black screen and a bunch of white words
[02:38] <mnoir> tirus89: it is a tough world.  sorry. what do you want to do with linux
[02:38] <canllaith> hey, is anyone using a bluetooth mouse with ubuntu ?
[02:38] <LameBMX> whats so frustrating tirus89 the fact you have to decide and not have everything done for ya
[02:38] <set1> i edited xorg.conf but still I cannot choose 1600x1200 though i added "1600x1200" to the 24 bit color res list
[02:38] <LameBMX> tirus89, what are you doing
[02:38] <tirus89> mnoir, i want to get to the desktop
[02:38] <mnoir> irc is no good for telling you what you want to do, only helping you do it
[02:38] <LameBMX> install .. etc etc
[02:38] <tirus89> i just want to get to an interface and install
[02:38] <LameBMX> create a server .. a desktop .. a gaming right
[02:38] <h3xis> set1, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and see if you can choose it through there
[02:39] <LameBMX> well where are you tirus89  CLI on install ... recovering a crash ...
[02:39] <tirus89> thats what i want to do, i want to write over my windows install and get to linux
[02:39] <h3xis> tirus89, are you in edgy dapper or what
[02:39] <tirus89> Lame, im in the termanal i guess
[02:39] <stonarmusic> even if i change to 800 x 600, when i try to play openarena in fullscreen, i see my desktop on the bottom half of the screen, and the game in a squashed box on the top half, anyone know why?
[02:39] <LameBMX> tirus89, did X (windows) ever work
[02:40] <tirus89> Lame, the interface?
[02:40] <h3xis> tirus89, then what's the problem? all you have to do is pop the CDs in and install
[02:40] <LameBMX> install correct ?
[02:40] <tirus89> h3xis, i did pop in the cd, then all these black screens with errors poped up
[02:40] <h3xis> tirus89, what did they say
[02:40] <LameBMX> try this one "xinit gdm"
[02:40] <mnoir> tirus89: did the live cd work without installing ever?
[02:40] <cornell> I'm trying to install Flashplayer plugin in Firefox on a 64 bit machine running ubuntu.  The installer doesn't work for 64 bits.  The instructions for manual installation are to copy a .so and .xpt file to the plugins directory, or the .xpt to components, depending upon the instructions ones follows.  Can anybody help?
[02:41] <tirus89> h3, they flashed off and on, then went blank with a _ and it didnt move
[02:41] <h3xis> cornell, yeah. you should be given a .so file
[02:41] <HymnToLife> cornell, have you tried doing what it says ?
[02:41] <LameBMX> tirus89, xinit == starts up Xserver ... gdm == Gnome Display manager .. its the option you are passing to X
[02:41] <h3xis> cornell, you copy that to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins and there you go
[02:41] <barbarella> tirus89:linux is all about reading, windows is making money from the mindless ;-)
[02:41] <LameBMX> tirus89, im an edgy user and a n00b ... and you are gonna have to bear with your install .. its not a windows install
[02:41] <tirus89> lol
[02:41] <tirus89> i know its not a windows install
[02:41] <LameBMX> tirus89, you get lots of choices on what you want to do
[02:41] <tirus89> ok
[02:42] <tirus89> hold on
[02:42] <LameBMX> yea im sure thats obvious by now
[02:42] <tirus89> lets start all over
[02:42] <set1> is vesa appropriate with a intel 945 graphics board?
[02:42] <stonarmusic> anyone?
[02:42] <pianoboy3333> What's the best thing for unencrypting the vob's on a dvd, and copying all the bup and ifo files off of it, along with decrypted vobs...
[02:42] <h3xis> set1, it will work, but you should get the intel drivers to work
[02:42] <LameBMX> well ur on IRC so you most likely have X working already
[02:42] <tirus89> ok, currently, at this point in time, i have a black screen with white words on it and i typed in "man sudo_root"
[02:43] <LameBMX> tirus89, what are you in the irc server on?
[02:43] <LameBMX> a different computer .. same computer
[02:43] <SpacePuppy> lol
[02:43] <tirus89> Lame, im on a working windows box with ff 2.0 running with chatzilla
[02:43] <set1> so i810 is my best bet?
[02:43] <brussel> How do you change the screen resolution to something that is not a default value in system/preferences/screenresolution?
[02:44] <Francisco> Hello Everyone
[02:44] <Francisco> Anyone tried installing 7.04 ?
[02:44] <LameBMX> okay .. tirus89 and you linux box .. it just booted up to a terminal and no gui?
[02:44] <h3xis> set1, i know nothing about video card drivers for intel but if you want X to work 100% choose vesa and then when you get your resolution working the way you want you can search google or ask here about intel drivers
[02:44] <tirus89> Lame, correct, i havent seen a gui since i looked at screenshots on the web
[02:45] <Francisco> h3xis this isnt because of the resolutions ?
[02:45] <cafuego_> set1: 915 should work fine with a 945 chip.
[02:45] <h3xis> Francisco, what?
[02:45] <LameBMX> okay which cd did you put in ... alternative or live?
[02:45] <Francisco> the question about the vesa driver ?
[02:45] <cafuego_> set1: Sorry, 810 it is :-)
[02:46] <tirus89> LameLame, how do I get to the gui
[02:46] <LameBMX> Francisco, be glad its not 830 .. just plain could not get that one to work
[02:46] <Francisco> :)
[02:46] <h3xis> Francisco, he was asking about changing his resolutions and he is running the xorg config and wanting to know which vid card drives to go with. i said vesa would work indeff but wasnt sure about the intel ones
[02:46] <tirus89> Lame, sorry i used live
[02:46] <crazy_bus> I'm not sure if I'm going crazy or not.  But I just reinstalled ubuntu, and Gnomtris seems to be different.  The way the pieces seem to move seems to be different.  Does anyone know anything about this?
[02:46] <LameBMX> okay .. and you did the default boot options right
[02:46] <Francisco> well if he has the same problem as i did with my hp laptop all he has to do is get from synaptic the 915resolution package
[02:46] <cafuego_> The only thing I haven't hard working properly on a 945 has been 3d acceleration
[02:46] <LameBMX> tirus89,  didnt touch anything at the first screen (grub fyi)
[02:47] <cornell> h3xis:  I've got libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins and flashplayer.xpt in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components.   I had had both in plugins, as per the enclosed Readme.txt
[02:47] <brussel> How do you change the screen resolution to something that is not a default value in system/preferences/screenresolution?
[02:47] <imbecile> hey im thinking of upgrading from dapper drake to edgy, would thye edgy live cd let me know of possible hardware conflicts before i install?
[02:47] <tirus89> Lame, correct, i used my enter key to select the install
[02:47] <h3xis> cornell, the components directory is irrelevant. you just need the .so file in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins and it should work henceforth. does it?
[02:47] <Francisco> Guys ... has anyone installed the Feisty Fawn Release with success ?
[02:47] <cornell> No, h3xis, it doesn't work
[02:48] <LameBMX> tirus89, type in xinit gdm
[02:48] <LameBMX> and let me know what happens
[02:48] <h3xis> cornell, try copying the .xpt file to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins too
[02:48] <cornell> I've restarted firefox.  I've chmoded them to 777
[02:48] <tirus89> Lame, i typed in "man sudo_root" , now im at the end of the manuel, how do I get out
[02:48] <h3xis> anyone here know the plugins directory for firefox?
[02:48] <LameBMX> tirus89, hit q
[02:48] <cafuego_> cornell: There are Ubuntu packages for flash9. Go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl and find where to grab it.
[02:49] <h3xis> dont use the ubuntu packages
[02:49] <h3xis> there's no need to
[02:49] <castoff> h3xis /usr/lib/firefox
[02:49] <castoff> h3xis /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[02:49] <h3xis> okay
[02:49] <LameBMX> tirus89, also what are your system specs .. cpu .. chipset .. vid card .. harddrives ? and pata/sata drives
[02:49] <crimsun> h3xis: what's wrong with the Ubuntu packages in -backports?
[02:49] <h3xis> cornell, see if /usr/lib/firefox/plugins is a valid directory and stick the .so and .xpt files in there
[02:49] <imbecile> h3xis,  do you think i would be able to tell what  problems my lappy may have with changing to edgy  via the live disk?
[02:49] <Francisco> :'(
[02:50] <h3xis> crimsun, why use those when it's just as easy to use the adobe one?
[02:50] <h3xis> imbecile, yes
[02:50] <tirus89> cpu=intel p3, chipset, dunno, vid card=onboard, harddrive=10gig
[02:50] <crimsun> h3xis: why use Ubuntu when it's just as easy to use LFS?
[02:50] <h3xis> imbecile, the live cd has xchat on it
[02:50] <chris99> hi can someone tell me if I can reinstall dapper and backport from edgy, too many problems with wireless support in Edgy, thanks
[02:50] <Francisco> LameBMX .... can i have your attention for one second ?
[02:50] <imbecile> h3xis,  nice thanks, you have been very helpful
[02:50] <LameBMX> sure
[02:50] <h3xis> crimsun, idk personal preference i guess
[02:50] <LameBMX> Francisco, sure .. sorry forgot ur name there and its busy in here
[02:50] <cornell> h3xis: Yes, and they're there.  I think they're aliased
[02:51] <tirus89> Lame, i typed in the thing and now it says "refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing and im back at the termanal
[02:51] <brussel> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
[02:51] <brussel> sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum'
[02:51] <brussel> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:51] <Francisco> LameBMX ..have you seen anyone around who actualy installed 7.04 with success ?
[02:51] <h3xis> cornell, you said you restarted firefox right?
[02:51] <cornell> Right
[02:51] <LameBMX> tirus89, do xinit gdm again then
[02:51] <brussel> is that what you need to do for 6.10 too?
[02:51] <h3xis> cornell, 64 bit roo?
[02:51] <h3xis> too*
[02:51] <LameBMX> Francisco, not a clue
[02:51] <tblaine> Flannel are you available for consultation?
[02:51] <cornell> And did ps aux | egrep fire, to check that it was actually not running
[02:51] <tirus89> Lame, same thing
[02:51] <cornell> 64 bit, yes
[02:51] <LameBMX> Francisco,  7.04 - feisty right
[02:51] <Francisco> LameBMX .. it's busting my chops saying that the install CD isnt there
[02:51] <h3xis> cornell, i guess get flash9 from the PLF repo then as crimsun said
[02:51] <Francisco> Yeah
[02:52] <h3xis> and see if that works
[02:52] <tirus89> Lame, what now
[02:52] <pianoboy3333> What's the best way to find what the biggest files are in my home directory?
[02:52] <Francisco> when i try to mount it on the console i go mount /dev/scd0 /mnt and it goes invalid argument
[02:52] <LameBMX> Francisco, im about half feisty on a edgy install .. but just got edgy up and working
[02:52] <Francisco> basicly it's not picking up the cd
[02:52] <Francisco> :)
[02:52] <LameBMX> tirus89, what vid card etc do you have?
[02:52] <barbarella> Francisco:it is alpha...so tell us!
[02:52] <Francisco> barbarella .. i will ;)
[02:53] <tirus89> Lame, no vid card
[02:53] <castoff> pianoboy3333 du -sh *
[02:53] <Francisco> as soon as i find out
[02:53] <LameBMX> Francisco, did ya try the fun thing of rebootin with the cd in and boot from the cd ..
[02:53] <Francisco> LameBMX .. funny ;)
[02:53] <AaronfromChina> join #ubuntu-cn
[02:53] <Francisco> it goes all past the cd detection routine
[02:53] <LameBMX> tirus89, you have to have a video adapter ... otherwise you wouldnt see the terminal
[02:53] <Francisco> but it wont mount it
[02:53] <chris99> anyone.... how can I wind back to Dapper, thanks
[02:53] <tirus89> Lame, i guess its onboard then
[02:54] <LameBMX> Francisco, that is well beyond me man ... i dont have a clue
[02:54] <h3xis> LameBMX, possibly magic?
[02:54] <Francisco> LameBMX .. thanks .. i'll be busting chops :P
[02:54] <cornell> h3xis: are you referring to (20:48:53) cafuego_: cornell: There are Ubuntu packages for flash9. Go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl and find where to grab it.
[02:54] <tirus89> but when i type that one thing, it comes up with a grey screen with a white box, then it goes to the termanal again
[02:54] <LameBMX> tirus89, do 3 seperate commands after each other .. as seperated with a | (pipe)
[02:54] <h3xis> cornell, i guess. maybe? i'm not familiar with ubuntu's repos.
[02:54] <davidj_> I'm trying to get a usb serial device working with ubuntu 6.06.  But there's no /dev/usb/ in ubuntu.  Anybuddy got any tips or clues ? TIA's.
[02:54] <h3xis> crimsun, where are those flash9 drivers again?
[02:55] <h3xis> er
[02:55] <h3xis> plugins
[02:55] <tirus89> Lame, what are the commands
[02:55] <martin_> #ubuntu-fr-testing
[02:55] <crimsun> h3xis: in -backports
[02:55] <LittLeLives> Umm, I'm an idiot to Linux and I'd like to ask if it was okay I burned Ubuntu 6.10 as a bootable CD instead of as an image. I did this prior to reading the burning instruction given at the installation forum.
[02:55] <LittLeLives> If not, I can make a new CD.
[02:55] <h3xis> crimsun, does it tell you how to get to them in that link you suggested a while back that cornell was talking about?
[02:55] <LameBMX> tirus89, never mind i will seperate them with a , cuz the commands have pipes in them ... oh and a pipe ( | ) passes the output of one command to another command ... sorry if your gonna be stuck in a terminal for a while these are really handy things to learn ... any ways commands are next
[02:56] <crimsun> h3xis: in !backports
[02:56] <h3xis> !backports | cornell
[02:56] <ubotu> cornell: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[02:56] <daerogami> does anyone know how to fix the NVIDIA render problem
[02:56] <castoff> h3xis if you are using the flashdrivers package it may install them in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins so link them
[02:56] <h3xis> castoff, this isnt for me. it's for cornell
[02:56] <castoff> h3xis ok sorry
[02:56] <h3xis> castoff, but he did do that
[02:56] <crimsun> castoff: did you mean the backport of 9 in -backports?
[02:57] <LameBMX> tirus89, first just do lspci ... then after seeing all that garbage learn the power or piping to grep with: lspci | grep ati , lspci | grep intel , lspci | grep nvidia
[02:57] <castoff> crimsun no i just installed the regular flashplugins deb
[02:57] <val__> i just found out from nvidia that thereacpi are some known problems with hardware recognition due to
[02:57] <LameBMX> tirus89, then let us know which one gets responses
[02:57] <cornell> Ok, thanks h3xis and crimsun, I'll check there, I'm guessing add the repositories and apt-get flash9?
[02:57] <lufis> How do I quit an application in the command line?
[02:57] <eitan>  Hi guys.  Which repository has the modules tifm_7xx1, tifm_core, and tifm_sd?  I need those for my internal SD card, and I cannot find them anywhere.  I need them for Ubu 6.06
[02:58] <h3xis> cornell, or apt-cache search flash9 if that doesnt turn anything up
[02:58] <barbarella> davidj_:can you be more specific about this usb serial device.
[02:58] <crimsun> cornell: enable backports and install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:58] <tirus89> Lame, isnt there a way to message each other without all this other stuff?
[02:58] <LameBMX> lufis, hit ctrl-C if nothing else works
[02:58] <daniel1988> hi everyone! need help with nvidia drivers... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/305/   What this means? GF4 MX460GO isn't listed in those who need legacy drivers from nvidia. TIA
[02:58] <Ralth> Hello everyone!  Where might I find the config file for GRUB?
[02:59] <lufis> LameBMX: Thanks! I've been using linux for 8 months now, wondering how to do that... :P
[02:59] <LameBMX> tirus89, yea ... but id really advise to just keep your eyes open in here
[02:59] <PeDePano> Ralth, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:59] <tirus89> my eyes are burning
[02:59] <lufis> tirus89: go to a hospital??
[02:59] <h3xis> tirus89, soak them in ice water
[02:59] <Ralth> PeDePano: Thanks!
[02:59] <barbarella> Ralth:/boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:59] <PeDePano> Ralth, u r welcome
[02:59] <LameBMX> tirus89, just be glad the burning is not lower
[02:59] <linuxnewbie756> how can i enable aac playback in amarok 1.3.9?
[03:00] <tirus89> Lame, i dunno, im so confused
[03:00] <tirus89> lufis, not insurance
[03:00] <daerogami> Does anyone recall how to fix the 3d rendering with the NVIDIA drivers. It had something to do with renaming nv to nvidia
[03:00] <LameBMX> tirus89, its all good what did you get from them commands from earlier
[03:00] <tirus89> h3xis, ice water up here to cold
[03:00] <val__> is there a way to get ubuntu to detect my hardware again without having to reinstall?
[03:00] <LameBMX> tirus89, if you scroll up the screen stops moving till you scroll back to the bottom
[03:00] <lufis> tirus89: well... um... did you get something in them, or what?
[03:00] <cornell> added debhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntudapper-backportsmainuniversemultiverserestricted to sources.list.  apt-cache search flash9 returns nothing
[03:01] <h3xis> tirus89, is it snowing where you are? you could possibly go ram your head into the ground outside in the snow
[03:01] <crimsun> cornell: it's flashplugin-nonfree as I mentioned above.
[03:01] <daniel1988> hi everyone! need help with nvidia drivers... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/305/   What this means? GF4 MX460GO isn't listed in those who need legacy drivers from nvidia. TIA... anyone?
[03:01] <lufis> linuxnewbie756: did libxine-extracodecs not do the trick?
[03:01] <daerogami> can anyone redirect me to the ubuntu vga room?
[03:01] <cornell> Sorry, crimsun, trying to do the suggested stuff, and the room goes by fast ;-)
[03:02] <val__> danieli,,,,,did you turn acpi off?
[03:02] <LameBMX> tirus89, sounds like your gonna be un-n00bed by the time you see a desktop ..
[03:02] <lufis> cornell: "It's like level 10 tetris!" :P
[03:02] <linuxnewbie756> didn't seem to, i gotta get off, i will fix it tommorow
[03:02] <cornell> apt-cache search flashplugin-nonfree yeilds no hit
[03:02] <davidj_> [barbarella]   Its a usb-serial cable for connecting to an Icom radio scanner.  Uses the pl2303 kernel module which is loaded.  How do I point the software to /dev/usb/ttyUSB0 when it doesn't exist ?  Does ubuntu put that device someplace else ?
[03:02] <LameBMX> tirus89, but dont sweat the first time is always the hardest
[03:02] <h3xis> lufis, high level multiplayer notepad
[03:02] <LameBMX> wow
[03:02] <tirus89> Lame, i got a read out on the lspci grep ati
[03:02] <martin_> #ubuntu-fr
[03:02] <LameBMX> i havent heard irc described like that in a long time
[03:02] <tirus89> h3xis, that would be great
[03:02] <LameBMX> what was it tirus89
[03:03] <h3xis> XD
[03:03] <tirus89> Lame, what was what?
[03:03] <LameBMX> tirus89, while you are at it
[03:03] <LameBMX> tirus .. what was the readout .. and while you are back there do lsmod ... then pipe it through grep for ati
[03:03] <lufis> h3xis: notepad? heck no. gedit!
[03:03] <LameBMX> tirus89, and then for radeon ... and then for fglrx
[03:04] <tirus89> lame, comannd fo all of that
[03:04] <daniel1988> val__: <val__> danieli,,,,,did you turn acpi off? if this was related to me? no, how to do that?
[03:04] <h3xis> lufis, vim.
[03:04] <LameBMX> lufis, i think irc predates gedit
[03:04] <lufis> h3xis: even better ;)
[03:04] <LameBMX> lufis, i wouldnt be surprised if it predates the linux kernal
[03:04] <h3xis> lufis, high level multiplayer vim with color coding
[03:05] <cornell> h3xis, crimsun: did apt-cache search flash, found swf-player - SWF (Macromedia Flash) player
[03:05] <cornell> Is that useful?
[03:05] <crimsun> cornell: no, flashplugin-nonfree
[03:05] <h3xis> ^
[03:05] <crimsun> cornell: did you ``sudo aptitude update''?
[03:05] <LameBMX> tirus89, lsmod | grep ati
[03:06] <cornell> DANG!!!
[03:06] <con-man> omg. 157 ppl in the queue on WoW server khaz modan
[03:06] <h3xis> LameBMX, what is tirus89 trying to do now
[03:06] <tirus89> h3xis, hes making me cry
[03:06] <h3xis> haha
[03:06] <val__> danieli,,,,,im finding some of same problem with nvidia
[03:06] <tblaine> A problem with my MBR popped up when I removed Linux from my secondary hard drive, GRUB gave me error code 21 during Stage 1.5, I rewrote the MBR with Acronis MBRautowrite, now it appears WinXP is attempting to start, but doesn't finish. Is there another fix? WinXP Pro was preinstalled and I do not have a recover disk
[03:06] <cornell> Yes, crimsun, I did, and still no hit
[03:06] <bobbyd_> hi
[03:06] <LameBMX> h3xis, im tryin to find out if his vid driver loaded up correctly .. and try to teach him some command line tools that come in handy
[03:06] <Agent_137> tirus89, cry more
[03:06] <LameBMX> like | grep to filter out junk you dont wanna read through
[03:06] <val__> danieli i looked at this  http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/nforce/1.0-0306/KnownProblems.html
[03:07] <h3xis> tirus89, dont go emo because you cant use the easiest distro ;)
[03:07] <bobbyd_> how do I force my laptop to run at the slowest clock speed when on batteries?
[03:07] <cornell> Searched for plugin, got libflash-mozplugin - GPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatible plugin
[03:07] <LameBMX> roflmao
[03:07] <tirus89> EASY!?!?!!? if it was easy i would have Wine installed by now with steam working
[03:07] <cornell> How about that, crimsun?
[03:07] <h3xis> hahaha
[03:07] <barbarella> davidj_:not /dev/ttyUSB0
[03:07] <agent> tirus89: ?
[03:07] <chico> I have no sound whenever i open youtube, but if i shut down and open up my computer, i hear the welcoming sound, what is wrong with my ubuntu
[03:07] <tirus89> wet trout?
[03:07] <LameBMX> tirus89, its an irc thang
[03:07] <LameBMX> roflmao
[03:07] <h3xis> chico, sounds like you've got a problem with flash player
[03:08] <tirus89> not you agent, Agent_137
[03:08] <Agent_137> 'Imposters!
[03:08] <tirus89> oh god, what do I do now!?!?!
[03:08] <crimsun> cornell: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree |grep 500
[03:08] <tirus89> all i wanted to do was install and write a book
[03:08] <h3xis> tirus89, you should like join us leet kids and use debian.
[03:08] <tirus89> or read a book, i havent desided
[03:08] <LameBMX> well the way this is going your install will fill a book
[03:08] <cornell> crimsun: W: Unable to locate package flashplugin-nonfree
[03:08] <tirus89> FCK!
[03:08] <Agent_137> tirus89, what's your deal?I imssed it.
[03:08] <chico> h3xis:  even though i can play the video? the issue i am encountering is the sounds
[03:08] <svish> tirus89: isnt openoffice installed already when you install ubuntu?
[03:09] <h3xis> chico, yes. that's a common problem
[03:09] <LameBMX> tirus89, what did you get from lsmod
[03:09] <h3xis> chico, what version of flash player plugin are you using
[03:09] <crimsun> cornell: and you're sure you added the line to /etc/apt/sources.list and executed ``sudo aptitude update''?
[03:09] <tirus89> cpufreq_conservative 7332    0
[03:09] <chico> how can i check that
[03:09] <h3xis> chico, type about:plugins in firefox and it'll tell you
[03:09] <LameBMX> huh tirus89 which grep caught that
[03:10] <tirus89> the lsmod | grep ati
[03:10] <LameBMX> tirus89, lsmod | grep radeon
[03:10] <chico> Shockwave Flash
[03:10] <chico>     File name: libflashplayer.so
[03:10] <chico>     Shockwave Flash 7.0 r68
[03:10] <svish> okey.. debfoster has now removed stuff I selected.. but how can I adjust the list?
[03:10] <barbarella> davidj_:nothing?
[03:10] <LameBMX> tirus89, okay conservATIve
[03:10] <tirus89> lsmod | grep radeon wit nothing
[03:10] <davidj_> [barbarella]   yes, found 'em.  there's /dev/ttyUSB0 AND /dev/ttyUSB1  How do I know which is mouse, and which is cereal cable ?
[03:10] <LameBMX> it caught that
[03:10] <chico> is that it h3xis?
[03:10] <h3xis> chico, yes, but you should use version 9
[03:11] <chico> oh
[03:11] <tirus89> What now LameBMX
[03:11] <LameBMX> tirus89, do lspci .. and this time you will have to find the short section where it refers to your ati device
[03:11] <Asc> Okay... I'm trying to install GRUB manually, hopefully to eventually make a standard Edgy install.  There is no initrd.gz in /boot on the drive.  Should I use the one from the livecd?
[03:11] <chico> do i get that from the repository
[03:11] <barbarella> davidj_:trial and error ;-)
[03:11] <cornell> crimsun: Yes, just double checked... debhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntudapper-backportsmainuniversemultiverserestricted is in /etc/apt/sources.list, did aptitude update (and apt-get update)
[03:11] <chico> or from some special website
[03:11] <svish> and why is sudo accepting my password, but su isnt??
[03:11] <svish> arnt those sort of the same thing?
[03:11] <jbroome> because they're different
[03:11] <bimberi> davidj_: 'lsusb' might help
[03:11] <h3xis> chico, you should get them from backports since it would be easier for you.
[03:11] <svish> but how do I use su then?
[03:12] <h3xis> !backports | chico
[03:12] <ubotu> chico: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[03:12] <stoorty> !apm
[03:12] <cornell> (technically, I didn't sudo, I'm su'ed)
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <davidj_> [barbarella]  Ok, standby.  (How does you make my 'puter "beep" on reply ?)
[03:12] <LameBMX> asc initramfs will make one for you ... goto the fakeraid howto in the wiki and at the end it tells how to make the initramfs
[03:12] <tirus89> LameBMX, VGA, PCI, ISA, IDE, USB, SMBus, Host bridge, which one?
[03:12] <bimberi> svish: they aren't the same, su needs the password of the user you are becoming (eg. root)
[03:12] <stoorty> !battery power
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about battery power - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <LameBMX> tirus89, this time you have to kinda physically look for where it says ati
[03:12] <stoorty> !power management
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power management - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <jbroome> !acpi | stoorty
[03:13] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[03:13] <svish> bimberi: so how do I use the root abilities i thought my user already have?
[03:13] <LameBMX> tirus89,  after doing lspci
[03:13] <Asc> lamebmx, okay, will try.
[03:13] <LameBMX> whats so funny h3xis
[03:13] <barbarella> !powersave
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powersave - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <tirus89> VGA compatible controller?
[03:13] <bimberi> svish: using sudo. eg. 'sudo -i' gets you a root shell
[03:13] <barbarella> !kpowersave
[03:13] <h3xis> LameBMX, at some point tirus89 is going to assplode
[03:13] <ubotu> kpowersave: frontend to powersave for setting user specific policies. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.2-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 3216 kB, installed size 4984 kB
[03:13] <LameBMX> tirus89, yea that one sounds good
[03:14] <xtknight> what are some applications for designing GNOME dialogs?  Glade is pretty frustrating for me since i'm used to visual basic
[03:14] <tirus89> h3xis, i think im going to have a shit-hemerage
[03:14] <h3xis> ahahaha
[03:14] <xtknight> lol
[03:14] <LameBMX> h3xis, if he dont though he will be well on his way to dealing with things linux style
[03:14] <h3xis> this is true
[03:14] <tirus89> sorry for foul use of language, but my brain is going to explode
[03:14] <Mace68> lo all
[03:15] <tirus89> Lame, what now?
[03:15] <pianoboy3333> What's the best thing for unencrypting the vob's on a dvd, and copying them to my hard drive?
[03:15] <IntuitiveNipple> money :p
[03:15] <h3xis> pianoboy3333, like what dvd shrink does on windows?
[03:15] <davidj_> [barbarella]  dmesg tells me its connected to ttyUSB0.  Standby.
[03:16] <pianoboy3333> h3xis: no idea what that is
[03:16] <h3xis> pianoboy3333, it just rips the content from dvds
[03:16] <LameBMX> tirus89, k .. try this one ...
[03:16] <pianoboy3333> h3xis: yep, but I need it decoded too
[03:16] <LameBMX> tirus89, apt-get install radeon
[03:16] <pianoboy3333> libdvdcss will do that
[03:16] <LameBMX> !radeon
[03:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radeon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:16] <h3xis> pianoboy3333, not sure about the decoding part but there is a dvd shrink for linux
[03:16] <LameBMX> !driver
[03:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about driver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:16] <tirus89> !crying
[03:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crying - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:16] <svish> is there a start->run equivalent on linux? with a keyboardshortcut?
[03:17] <balutix> hey i got a problem when i try to run Wow with wine. "fglX11AllocateManagedSurface: __FGLTexMgrAllocMem failed!!" im not sure it has anything with wine or not. but it seems like the game runs but i cant get any grapics, how do i check if it is the correct driver running? and if opengl is running.
[03:17] <pianoboy3333> h3xis: ..... anything open source?
[03:17] <h3xis> man LameBMX you should be given 2 cookies after your efforts
[03:17] <tirus89> !crying over installing linux
[03:17] <h3xis> pianoboy3333, i think it is open source
[03:17] <xtknight> LameBMX: are you looking for the radeon open source driver or radeon proprietary?
[03:17] <pianoboy3333> h3xis: ok
[03:17] <bimberi> svish: alt-F2
[03:17] <Mace68> I am wanting to switch from fedora to ubuntu. I have 3 partitons: /boot /swap and / (with /swap and / being part of a LVM volume). Could i boot with the live cd, remove the fedora system files while leaving my home dir intact and install kubuntu to the existing / partition?
[03:17] <LameBMX> tirus89, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[03:17] <cornell> h3xis, crimsun: thanks for trying... gotta head out now
[03:17] <tirus89> um LameBMX, it kinda froze on the dependency tree
[03:17] <xtknight> Mace68: with a little bit of work yes
[03:17] <LameBMX> you may want to look that guy up ...
[03:18] <LameBMX> tirus89, hit numlock and let me know if your light still works on the keyboard
[03:18] <tirus89> LameBMX, no, NOO!!!!!!
[03:18] <xtknight> Mace68: just have it mount your home partition as /home but do not choose to format it.  it should preserve what's in there, but you will have to make sure your username in ubuntu is the same as ur username under fedora for the /home to register
[03:18] <h3xis> ahahahaha
[03:18] <chico> h3xis:  anything easier
[03:18] <chico> lol
[03:18] <LameBMX> xtknight, dont really matter does it .. it hasnt even been installed yet .. something fast and easy to get this poor soul to a desktop
[03:18] <xtknight> LameBMX: oh ok :P
[03:19] <h3xis> chico, that's as easy as it gets
[03:19] <LameBMX> tirus89, dont restart
[03:19] <Mace68> xtknight: so live cd will recognize my LVM setup?
[03:19] <LameBMX> tirus89, this is nix not windows ..
[03:19] <LameBMX> tirus89, hit alt-F2
[03:19] <xtknight> Mace68: LVM? hmm i am pretty sure it will.  ubuntu should support lvm and raid
[03:20] <LameBMX> unless they disabled multiple terminals
[03:20] <tirus89> nothing LameBMX
[03:20] <LameBMX> gah them bastards
[03:20] <tirus89> restart?
[03:20] <LameBMX> tirus89, yea restart
[03:20] <xtknight> !lvm
[03:20] <LameBMX> this time ..
[03:20] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:20] <LameBMX> tirus89, wait
[03:20] <tirus89> sht, what?
[03:20] <Mace68> xtknight: good, I like this community a lot better... thanks for actually answering me :)
[03:21] <LameBMX> when you restart and you get to the grub load screen ... hit F6 ... and back space over quiet splash --
[03:21] <eitan> anyone help me set up my internal SD memory card in Ubu 6.06??
[03:21] <LameBMX> then hit enter
[03:21] <tirus89> ok
[03:21] <xtknight> eitan: sure, what happens when you insert the SD card?
[03:21] <LameBMX> and watch the screen for error messages
[03:21] <LameBMX> tirus89, good thing you got a couple computers
[03:21] <scott> i have a question too, when someone has time
[03:21] <h3xis> scott, what is it
[03:21] <Uberriffic> I just installed beryl, and it ran great, but then it died, and now X won't start. I am running Edgy 6.10, with latest updates
[03:21] <Uberriffic> Has anyone else seen this?
[03:21] <numist> gah
[03:22] <Mace68> the un-knowledgeable seem to get ignored elsewhere
[03:22] <LameBMX> !havequestion
[03:22] <eitan> xtknight: nothing happens, that's the problem!
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about havequestion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <carkeys> hello.  cna anybody help me with my /etc/fstab file?
[03:22] <LameBMX> !question
[03:22] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:22] <davidj_> [barbarella]   /dev/ttyUSB0 just causes the software to hang.  http://parnass.com/tk5/ in case you're interested (not).  Seems like I've gotta try WindoZe instead. D'oh.
[03:22] <svish> WOHOO!!! think I figured out debfoster :D
[03:22] <LameBMX> yea
[03:22] <LameBMX> rw stays
[03:22] <tirus89> Lame, why could we do this before?
[03:22] <xtknight> eitan: could you please post the output of the dmesg command to a pastebin
[03:22] <xtknight> !pastebin | eitan
[03:22] <ubotu> eitan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:23] <ctothej> can someone help me configure a creative usb sound card for alsa?
[03:23] <tirus89> LameBMX, if this works and you got me to do all that command sht, ima shoot h3xis
[03:23] <pianoboy3333> What's the best thing for unencrypting the vob's on a dvd, and copying them to my hard drive? dvd::rip didn't do crap for me
[03:23] <eitan> xtknight: my card is here..000:08:03.2 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments 5-in-1 Multimedia Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO/xD)
[03:23] <LameBMX> roflmao
[03:23] <h3xis> wait wait
[03:23] <h3xis> if it doesnt work
[03:23] <h3xis> you shoot LameBMX
[03:23] <h3xis> noooo
[03:24] <scott> hi h3xis - my uestion is this.. When I go to the "Places" menu and select "Connect to Server"... then try to enter an "FTP (with Login)"... I'm having trouble. I think it's not using an active connection (as opposed to passive). I know when I use other clients, I need to select "active". Can I do this with .. um.. i guess it's called Nautilis. I'm pretty new to ubuntu.
[03:24] <tirus89> you got time, dont owrry
[03:24] <h3xis> :<
[03:24] <xtknight> eitan: ok , dmesg will tell us if the kenrnel registers the device at all.  it could just need to be mounted but we need to know what's at the end of dmesg
[03:24] <LameBMX> tirus89, dont feel too bad .. mine has too boot between 10-15seconds for some reason i havent figured out .. too fast and my cpu has an error .. too late and my usb freezes things :/
[03:24] <eitan> ok
[03:24] <h3xis> scott, not that i know of. ive never used "connect to server" :/
[03:24] <scott> o
[03:24] <h3xis> carkeys, what problem
[03:24] <scott> well, thanks anyway
[03:24] <LameBMX> tirus89, what are you "no"ing
[03:24] <bds> ctothej: have you tried alsamixer?
[03:25] <chico> i should have stayed with Microsofts :|
[03:25] <chico> this ubuntu thing is hard for me
[03:25] <LameBMX> tirus89, does that mean it went to gui for ya
[03:25] <carkeys> h3xsis: i reinstalled vista, and now my sda2 partition (where vista is) wont automount.
[03:25] <chico> thanks h3xis for the help
[03:25] <h3xis> chico, sorry :/
[03:25] <chico> its ok
[03:25] <frustratedOfToro> hi all - this must be easy but i've wasted an hour or two searching without result. i want to find files that contain some substring, but they are within .zip archives, so i can't use "find" or "sagasu" (it seems). a gui would be nice but i'd settle for anything that works right now. can anyone point me at something? thanks
[03:25] <chico> this is just not for me
[03:25] <h3xis> carkeys, and it's in your fstab?
[03:25] <eitan> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/308/
[03:25] <ctothej> bds: yes. i have noticed that aplay -l does not show my usb sound card
[03:25] <carkeys> h3xsis: and now, when i try this command (mount -t nfs-3g /dev/sda2 /media/sda2) it says that its not a valid ntfs filesystem
[03:25] <svish> chico: quite different from windows yeah?
[03:26] <bimberi> frustratedOfToro: zgrep
[03:26] <h3xis> carkeys, i know nothing about vista. what is nfs-3g?
[03:26] <LameBMX> frustratedOfToro, have you tried grepping /
[03:26] <tirus89> LameBMX, no my screen is just randomly showing diffrent colors and stuff when your tv is on, but not the cable
[03:26] <eitan> xtknight: The latter stuff I believe is it reading the card through my external USB reader, but I'm trying to get it to work wih my internal TI SD card reader
[03:26] <xtknight> frustratedOfToro:  unzip -l | grep *pattern*
[03:26] <ctothej> bds: neither does /proc/asound/cards
[03:26] <carkeys> ntfs-3g, is the mtfs read/write kernel module
[03:26] <h3xis> ah
[03:26] <Uberriffic> hahaha, X kept quitting with no errors. I was set to run kde on startx, i ran gnome, quit and then started kde, and it works now... go figure!
[03:26] <crimsun> ctothej: what model card is it?
[03:26] <scott> jesus
[03:26] <frustratedOfToro> thanks so much guys, that sounds like what i'm looking for. :)
[03:26] <xtknight> frustratedOfToro: unzip -l someFile.zip | grep *pattern*
[03:26] <LameBMX> tirus89, but its trying to start .. didnt just stop at the term login correct
[03:26] <IntuitiveNipple> eitan, did you read that forum thread i posted about 45 minutes ago?
[03:26] <h3xis> carkeys, it is still experimental
[03:26] <xtknight> eitan: ill have a look at your dmesg in a second
[03:26] <chico> its ok, just thought that if ubuntu/linux turns out to be more userfriendly, it will get more user
[03:27] <ctothej> crimsun: based on the creative live external
[03:27] <agent> !offtopic | tirus89
[03:27] <ubotu> tirus89: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:27] <tirus89> LameBMX, i dont have a login screen
[03:27] <curs0r> liflg don't work very well on ubuntu do they?
[03:27] <tirus89> sorry agent
[03:27] <h3xis> chico, pm me and i'll see if i can get you sorted out
[03:27] <Agent_137> tirus89, hey, hey, i'm all in other windows and shit, and you're sucker kicking me?
[03:27] <carkeys> h3xis: yes, i know... it *was* working, and it sorks for me on my other xp partitions
[03:27] <bds> ctothej: Eek, sorry I wish I could offer more. I know my alsa card was muted by default but it appears that your problem is more than that :(
[03:27] <crimsun> ctothej: I need ``lsusb -v'' pastebinned
[03:27] <eitan> IntuitiveNipple: yeah i did...i dled the TIFM 0.6 from the german site but it wouldnt compile on my computer
[03:27] <Agent_137> tirus89, don't make me break out the manhammer.
[03:27] <LameBMX> tirus89, but its in a graphical mode (even if it is screwed up correct)
[03:27] <xtknight> eitan: by internal do you mean the one embedded in your PC case, or one embedded in a monitor?
[03:27] <agent> tirus89: no problem.... #ubuntu is very busy (as you can see) so please only support questions/answer
[03:27] <ctothej> crimsun, bds: lsusb gives me a line Bus 003 Device 012: ID 041e:3051 Creative Technology, Ltd
[03:27] <IntuitiveNipple> LameBMX: how about getting tirus to boot without "quiet splash" and see if there's some reports to help here?
[03:27] <tirus89> LameBMX, correct
[03:27] <ctothej> ohh, do you need the whole thing?
[03:27] <eitan> xtknight: it's embedded in my laptop system, so the computer itself
[03:27] <tirus89> Yes Agent_137, yes
[03:28] <crimsun> ctothej: no, that'll suffice.
[03:28] <LameBMX> IntuitiveNipple, already had him do that
[03:28] <IntuitiveNipple> Lame: ok
[03:28] <tirus89> so what now LameBMX
[03:28] <IntuitiveNipple> lame: tried boot command line vga=771 too ?
[03:28] <svish> what do you people recommend for downloading torrents? i see there is a bittorrent thingy here already... any good? how do I use it?
[03:28] <barbarella> davidj_:do you want to access your sd on your mobile?
[03:28] <LameBMX> tirus89, did anything look out of the ordinary while it was booting ..
[03:28] <ctothej> bds: its ok, thanks
[03:28] <tirus89> ahhh
[03:28] <h3xis> svip, it's lame. i suggest azureus
[03:29] <h3xis> svish*
[03:29] <tirus89> my internet crashed
[03:29] <tirus89> hello?
[03:29] <IntuitiveNipple> hello
[03:29] <h3xis> tirus89, did you back it up?
[03:29] <carkeys> hahah
[03:29] <davidj_> [barbarella]   No thanks.
[03:29] <LameBMX> gimme a second .. tirus89 ping google.com .. if it works hit ctrl-c
[03:29] <tirus89> wha?
[03:29] <svish> h3xis: isnt that the slooow java client? tried it on windows and almost went crazy, lol. guess its what i get for falling in love with uTorrent, hehe
[03:30] <tirus89> ping, that number for counter-strike?
[03:30] <IntuitiveNipple> I think tirus needs a channel to himself, right now :)
[03:30] <xtknight> eitan: hmm.  take the SD card out, wait 5 seconds, and then insert it again.  does dmesg have any new information?
[03:30] <h3xis> svish, i hear utorrent works in wine
[03:30] <LameBMX> are you at a terminal tirus89
[03:30] <chico> does ubuntu have some sort of Retrieval system
[03:30] <chico> or restore
[03:30] <tirus89> LameBMX, no, its flashing colors
[03:30] <curs0r> anyone familiar with liflg? specifically mohaa, sof2, jedi academy, and call of duty
[03:30] <h3xis> chico, nope
[03:30] <LameBMX> tirus89, yea ping shows your latency ..
[03:30] <LameBMX> tirus89, hit ctrl-alt-F1
[03:30] <chico> i want to go back to the state when i first installed my linux
[03:30] <tirus89> on the linux or windows box
[03:30] <eitan> xtknight: it shows nothing new at the tail of dmesg
[03:30] <svish> h3xis: how do wine work? do programs run much slower?
[03:30] <LameBMX> tirus89, all  this will be on the nix box
[03:30] <eitan> xtknight: I tried both a 1gb and 2gb card
[03:31] <chico> ok
[03:31] <h3xis> svish, big ones dont run exactly up to snuff but utorrent should do well since it's rather small
[03:31] <tirus89> LameBMX, ok, now what
[03:31] <xtknight> eitan: alright.  type 'mount'.  it looks like sdb is your SD card.  is /dev/sdb listed under mount?
[03:31] <LameBMX> tirus89, did it break out of X
[03:31] <LameBMX> the colors
[03:31] <tirus89> Lame, yesh
[03:31] <LameBMX> and kinda drop you to a terminal tirus89
[03:31] <crimsun> ctothej: I'm doing a checkout atm, wait.
[03:31] <svish> h3xis: cool. ill check it out :)
[03:31] <eitan> it's not there
[03:31] <tirus89> yesh BMX
[03:31] <LameBMX> tirus89, k so you are at a normal terminal correct
[03:31] <eitan> xtknight: /dev/sdb is not there
[03:31] <ctothej> crimsun: ok will do
[03:32] <tirus89> Yesh, but it goes back to the colors after awhile
[03:32] <xtknight> eitan: does the SD card have anything on it yet?  has it been formatted?
[03:32] <eitan> oh wait
[03:32] <eitan> /dev/sdb1 on /media/NIKON D50 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[03:32] <xtknight> eitan: /dev/sdbX is a valid qualifier too, anything that starts with /dev/sdb under the `mount` command
[03:32] <xtknight> eitan: ok, is that the proper one or is it another SD card youre looking for
[03:32] <LameBMX> hmmm
[03:32] <crazy_bus> I just reinstalled ubuntu and was installing all the updates when something happened and I had to reboot.  As I was in the middle of installing the updates I was wondering if my computer was broken or if it could be fixed?
[03:32] <eitan> that is the one through my USB reader
[03:32] <eitan> the internal one is not in "mount"
[03:32] <LameBMX> tirus89, now at the terminal try to apt-get install radeon
[03:32] <tirus89> kk
[03:33] <xtknight> eitan: what model of notebook do you have?
[03:33] <h3xis> crazy_bus, should be fine, just re do what you were doing and it should go back to where it left off
[03:33] <bimberi> crazy_bus: should be ok, just resume the updates
[03:33] <tirus89> LameBMX, no type
[03:33] <LameBMX> tirus89, if it dont stop we will just reboot and select the safe mode option ..
[03:33] <carkeys> GAH.. ok, anybody know how to fix this.  i use beryl, and it radomly jsut decided to switch to metalacity
[03:33] <LameBMX> did you hit ctrl-c
[03:33] <tirus89> ima restart and go to the safe
[03:33] <LameBMX> tirus89, hit ctrl-c till it gives you a prompt
[03:33] <eitan> xtknight: It's a sony vaio, the reader is TI, so I was looking for the tifm_core, tifm_7xx1, and tifm_sd modules for 6.06 but am out of luck so far
[03:33] <tirus89> ima go to the safe mod thing LameBMX
[03:33] <LameBMX> cool coo
[03:34] <IntuitiveNipple> eitan - did you read that forums thread i posted here for you earlier?
[03:34] <xtknight> eitan: ahh so both the internal and external are TI?
[03:34] <tirus89> ok, i got some music going, in a half hour or some, ima call it quits till tomorrow
[03:34] <eitan> IntuitiveNipple: I did but I could not compile the tifm 0.6 programs I dled from the german site...it wouldn't let me "make" anything
[03:34] <h3xis> ha i dont get shot!
[03:34] <crazy_bus> I went to the update manager, and there were only four updates, and there were still more to install than four when it restarted.  Also when I clicked on install updates.  It came up with an error saying type 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'.  I typed that and its now installing things.  Will that fix my computer?
[03:35] <IntuitiveNipple> okay... just checking :)
[03:35] <eitan> xtknight: the external is generic I believe
[03:35] <xtknight> eitan: unplugging your external one may make the debugging easier.  it's pretty hard to differentiate when it says 'usb reader'
[03:35] <h3xis> :<
[03:35] <frustratedOfToro> errr... nope, i'm still stuck, sorry. zgrep will search, what, one file(?) for some substring, right? i need to recurse into subfolders, recurse into the many files stored in each archive found there (some zip, some rar), and search each file found for the substring. i've no doubt that's _possible_ with some combo of zips greps and finds, but i've no idea where to start! is someone willing to help me constru
[03:35] <h3xis> X_X
[03:35] <eitan> xtknight: ok
[03:35] <eitan> its out
[03:35] <h3xis> crazy_bus, yes
[03:35] <xtknight> eitan: you may have to reboot to wipe the dmesg so we can see everything detected again at startup.  then we will see if anything related to usb mass storage is detected
[03:35] <tirus89> all i wanted out of today was to use linux for the first time, but no, i have to have the hard crapy comp
[03:35] <eitan> xtknight: ok, should I reboot with the card in the slot?
[03:36] <h3xis> tirus89, it's not linux in general. it might be dapper. if you had edgy things might have went well
[03:36] <xtknight> eitan: yes, card in the internal one's slot.  external one disconnected, and reboot
[03:36] <tirus89> h3xis, shhhh
[03:36] <eitan> xtknight: ok, will do...brb
[03:36] <tirus89> h3xis, shhhhh
[03:36] <tirus89> h3xis, dont speek such things
[03:36] <LameBMX> tirus89, hard computers tend to do a lot better after an install ... mine was a 2 week bish ... but its super quick now
[03:36] <xtknight> frustratedOfToro: did you try unzip -l somefile.zip | grep *pattern*
[03:37] <tirus89> LameBMX, if you didnt know, i dont get to sit around all day and mess with this comp, i gotta go to school
[03:37] <svish> are my hardware drivers updated with synaptics? for instance my graphics card?
[03:37] <h3xis> tirus89, take it to school
[03:37] <LameBMX> tirus89, is it back up again
[03:37] <h3xis> tirus89, we can help you during lunch time
[03:38] <tirus89> h3xis, its a huge peice of sht, i ant takin to school
[03:38] <h3xis> hahahaha
[03:38] <barbarella> eitan:you don't have to reboot, look at /var/log/syslog
[03:38] <tirus89> LameBMX, it froze on configing X
[03:38] <LameBMX> k that was the safe mode right
[03:38] <Q_Continuum> what can I use to unpack RAR archives?
[03:38] <tirus89> h3xis, its like a comp from the dmv, cep its not a lct, its a crt
[03:38] <frustratedOfToro> xtnight: yes, that searches in a single zip file for a file named with *pattern*, right? i need to search in many zip/rar files in subfolders for a file containing *pattern* :)
[03:38] <LameBMX> tirus89, what other boot options does it give you .. its been a while
[03:38] <tirus89> LameBMX, yesh
[03:38] <h3xis> tirus89, that's hot
[03:39] <bimberi> !rar | Q_Continuum
[03:39] <ubotu> Q_Continuum: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:39] <xtknight> eitan: ill have to be right back, my p cis acting up right now
[03:39] <tirus89> h3xis, what, no, shhhh
[03:39] <Q_Continuum> !info unrar-free | Q_Continuum
[03:39] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[03:39] <eitan> ok
[03:39] <eitan> ill be here
[03:39] <Intangir> hey guys, what version of firefox comes with ubuntu 6.10 64
[03:39] <Intangir> i cant tell if its 64bit or 32bit
[03:39] <h3xis> Intangir, i think 2?
[03:39] <tirus89> LameBMX, start/install, start safe, check cd, memory, boot hd
[03:40] <svish> um... how do I use wine??
[03:40] <LameBMX> do F6 on start safe
[03:40] <tirus89> svish, wine fun, mess with it
[03:40] <LameBMX> tirus89, and tell me what the string is
[03:41] <LameBMX> svish, wine /path/to/windows/exe
[03:41] <tirus89> Lame, the whole thing
[03:41] <h3xis> svish, there is a command that you use to configure wine. i think it's like wineconf or something?
[03:41] <bimberi> winecfg
[03:41] <svish> tried to run it and I got among others a long list with err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color! ending with some file created successfully :|
[03:41] <jpoeta> hola
[03:41] <Q_Continuum> Intangir, Firefox 2 is currently the default
[03:41] <tirus89> LameBMX, i got the quiet splash thing, delete?
[03:41] <jpoeta> donde estoy?
[03:42] <h3xis> svish, you run winecfg?
[03:42] <LameBMX> tirus89, yea delete that
[03:42] <xtknight> eitan: sorry, pc froze
[03:42] <eitan> xtknight: its cool
[03:42] <svish> root@tb-laptop:~# winecfg
[03:42] <svish> err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[03:42] <svish> err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[03:42] <svish> err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[03:42] <svish> err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[03:42] <svish> Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[03:42] <svish> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[03:42] <tirus89> LameBMX, termanl with stuff
[03:42] <xtknight> eitan: need the new dmesg at pastebin though
[03:42] <svish> .. help??
[03:42] <svish> lol
[03:43] <LameBMX> tirus89, what kinda stuff
[03:43] <eitan> roger, the page is loading slowly..
[03:43] <tirus89> LameBMX, weird sht i dont want to type, and the console has a blinking _ and i no can type
[03:43] <kingace> has anyone here ever used Macromedia Fireworks?
[03:44] <h3xis> kingace, yes
[03:44] <tirus89> kingace, yesh
[03:44] <LameBMX> tirus89, whats the last line that is says
[03:44] <h3xis> tirus89, do you have broadband?
[03:44] <wayco> can anyone recommend an easy to set up, inexpensive webcam for ubuntu?
[03:44] <xtknight> how do i permanently remove a module from the kernel?  ide_cd is causing me problems, if i rmmod it it just comes back 2 seconds later
[03:44] <kingace> h3xis and tirus89: in your experience, what linux program comes closest to being a suitable alternative.. in terms of being used for stuff like a web design mockup
[03:44] <h3xis> i always used inkscape and gimp
[03:44] <tirus89> the last line is drivers/usb/imput/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver LameBMX
[03:45] <LameBMX> kingace, can you let tirus89 get linux installed first lol
[03:45] <LameBMX> ah tirus reboot it
[03:45] <kingace> LameBMX: i just got here 1 minute ago, havent been following the conversation
[03:45] <tirus89> no rebooting on nix eh LameBMX
[03:45] <h3xis> tirus89, do you have broadband?
[03:45] <kingace> my humble apologies...
[03:45] <LameBMX> unless your at a line like ubuntu@ubuntu
[03:45] <tirus89> h3xis, yesh sir
[03:45] <barbarella> xtknight:blacklist it
[03:45] <h3xis> tirus89, why are you using dapper?
[03:45] <xtknight> barbarella: ahh yes that's a good idea
[03:45] <LameBMX> kingace, i have no clue
[03:46] <h3xis> LameBMX, has tirus89 been able to get X?
[03:46] <tirus89> because ima lazy mope and i wanna use this ok
[03:46] <eitan> xtknight: the pastebin page won't load...still trying..
[03:46] <tirus89> h3xis, no
[03:46] <LameBMX> h3xis, nope .. dont even want to boot
[03:46] <kingace> h3xis: did you find that there was quite a learning curve?
[03:46] <h3xis> tirus89, might/will save you some trouble. it might boot and work and everything!
[03:46] <NkuMike> Hey I just installed samba... do i need to do anything to the conf file to allow my windows machine to see this machine?
[03:46] <h3xis> kingace, not really.
[03:46] <xtknight> barbarella: it doesnt matter which /etc/modprobe.d file i use does it (For blacklisting)?  as long as its in one of the blacklist* files?
[03:46] <h3xis> NkuMike, yes
[03:46] <tirus89> h3xis, unless you want to download and send me a cd, ok then
[03:46] <daerogami> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[03:46] <daerogami> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[03:46] <kingace> h3xis: inkscape i can understand but gimp makes me want to puke
[03:46] <h3xis> NkuMike, you need to set shares and add the workgroup
[03:46] <h3xis> kingace, it is ugly, i agree
[03:47] <NkuMike> should that be pretty visibil in the conf file?
[03:47] <xtknight> barbarella: thanks, that fixed it, i put it in blacklist-pata
[03:47] <daerogami> does the above message i sent look familiar to anyone?
[03:47] <h3xis> tirus89, why? it wont take long to download if you have broadband
[03:47] <kingace> yup, and therein lies the learning curve
[03:47] <h3xis> NkuMike, yes, if you need any help just ask
[03:47] <xtknight> eitan: that's fine
[03:47] <NkuMike> thanks
[03:47] <xtknight> eitan: ill be around here for quite a while yet
[03:47] <LameBMX> tirus89, u on dialup?
[03:47] <tirus89> the dapper would take 1 hour, whats going to make the other faster?
[03:47] <vanRijn_> re, all
[03:47] <tirus89> LameBMX no
[03:47] <fus> I know it's probably not the preferred way to install ubuntu, and that feasty is probably not the most advisable target, but here it goes... today, I tried to go from Debian unstable to Ubuntu feisty. After some level of work, it all seemed to work very nicely, except that I hadn't rebooted it yet. Now it doesn't boot, and although I've found some similar problems in Launchpad and Ubuntu Forums, none of them seem to be the very same, considering none of 
[03:47] <LameBMX> ahhh
[03:47] <h3xis> tirus89, edgy might have a fix that dapper doesnt have
[03:47] <vanRijn_> anyone using ubuntu on a powerbook?
[03:47] <h3xis> tirus89, you should give it a try
[03:48] <bimberi> NkuMike: You can use the GUI via System -> Administration -> Shared Folders.
[03:48] <fus> (I tend to think this message was cut. can anyone tell me where it stopped? :)
[03:48] <LameBMX> lmfao @ Linash's quit msg
[03:48] <xtknight> fus: ... considering none of
[03:48] <IntuitiveNipple> at the end, of course:)
[03:48] <fus> considering none of the proposed workarounds work. It basically hangs at "Waiting for root file system". Can somebody please give me a hand?
[03:48] <NkuMike> bimberi: thank you so much gotta love gui's
[03:48] <fus> thanks, xtknight
[03:48] <LameBMX> hmmmm
[03:49] <cypruser> How do I type the symbol for pi?
[03:49] <tirus89> h3xis, its a 1 and a half hour download, no thank you, i'll work with what i got
[03:49] <bimberi> NkuMike: np :)
[03:49] <vanRijn_> I am trying to get the alt key to work with ubuntu, my powerbook, and opera, but for some silly, crazy reason, opera's alt+left and alt+right (back and forward) just simply do not work.  it seems like it's a generic Qt + powerbook + linux problem, but I can't imagine what it would be.
[03:49] <h3xis> tirus89, youve been in here longer than that. you could have d/l it and had ubuntu up and running
[03:49] <NkuMike> Do I need to set samba to be a WINS server?
[03:49] <IntuitiveNipple> ] [ ?
[03:49] <h3xis> NkuMike, no
[03:49] <NkuMike> alright thanks!
[03:49] <tirus89> h3xis, i like to work with what i got, im asian, i have to, its in my blood
[03:49] <fus> I've read something from BenC on launchpad, but the workaround didn't work and I'd really like to boot my system, heh
[03:49] <h3xis> tirus89, omg. download it and stop being retarded!
[03:50] <tirus89> um LameBMX, i got to a red screen with a mouse, but it no move
[03:50] <tirus89> h3xis, no, i have to do it my way
[03:50] <LameBMX> tirus89, nice
[03:50] <h3xis> tirus89, youre stubborn.
[03:50] <tirus89> LameBMX, it wont move
[03:50] <IntuitiveNipple> sounds like the mouse is, too
[03:50] <LameBMX> tirus89, hit ctrl-alt-F1
[03:50] <tirus89> h3xis, and thats why im so damn lovable
[03:50] <tirus89> LameBMX, ok, nuttin
[03:51] <h3xis> tirus89, being asian is no excuse. i know one who has gentoo up on his toaster and he didnt have that big of a hard time.
[03:51] <Dot-Communist> who knows anything about xcompmgr
[03:51] <daerogami> Can noone help me?
[03:51] <tirus89> h3xis, well his toaster is new
[03:51] <Dot-Communist> is there an option for it to ignore gdesklets
[03:51] <h3xis> yeah
[03:51] <h3xis> it is
[03:51] <tirus89> oh god, nose bleed
[03:51] <svish> should I have a virus program running in linux?
[03:51] <LameBMX> h3xis, can he just emerge jam on it
[03:51] <svish> f so, which one do you recommend?
[03:51] <h3xis> LameBMX, he prefers marmalade
[03:51] <h3xis> svish, no.
[03:52] <daerogami> tirus89 seek tissues
[03:52] <Dot-Communist> because in gdesklets
[03:52] <kyncani> svish: no, you should keep your system up to date
[03:52] <Dot-Communist> the startbar looks bad with a shadow
[03:52] <tirus89> daerogami, got um
[03:52] <Dot-Communist> so is there a way for xcompmgr to ignore gdesklets
[03:52] <daerogami> tirus89 yeah i just had a nose bleed
[03:52] <crazy_bus> When did the firefox globe disappear, and the normal logo appear again in the corner of Fire-fox?
[03:52] <h3xis> tirus89, you do realize that edgy offers more support for more hardware and fixes certain issues that dapper has in the installation?
[03:53] <svish> kyncani: so antivirus is sort of inside ubuntu? or isnt there any virus threat on linux like on windows?
[03:53] <Dot-Communist> can anyone help me with xcompmgr
[03:53] <h3xis> svish, there's not a threat
[03:53] <tirus89> h3xis, no, i no wanna download, i want this, im stubborn
[03:53] <Who_> #beryl
[03:53] <h3xis> omg
[03:53] <bimberi> !virus | svish
[03:53] <svish> h3xis: alrighty then :) I can live with that, hehe
[03:53] <ubotu> svish: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:53] <LameBMX> tirus89, did it get u dropped to a terminal yet
[03:53] <maddmartigan> hello
[03:53] <elbeto> hi guys
[03:53] <tirus89> LameBMX, na, had to restart
[03:53] <daerogami> svish, i prefer to think of ubuntu invulnerable to viruses except for the errors it cinfuzzles itself with
[03:53] <kyncani> svish: security bugs are fixed and available in ubuntu before any virus+antivirus can be created/updated
[03:53] <xtknight> eitan: any luck?
[03:54] <h3xis> kyncani, not really
[03:54] <eitan> not yet..
[03:54] <LameBMX> tirus89, if its only an hour and a half .. id just dl and burn edgy man
[03:54] <svish> ah cool
[03:54] <eitan> something up with my wireless...
[03:54] <h3xis> kyncani, it's not just ubuntu. it's linux
[03:54] <elbeto> I have a problem, Ubuntu freeze after a couple of minutes of using it, anyone has any idea what can cause that?
[03:54] <maddmartigan> bad hardware
[03:54] <LameBMX> tirus89, if you can get it back up ... to a terminal ... lspci | grep Radeon
[03:54] <tirus89> LameBMX, if i no get working by weekend, then i download
[03:54] <h3xis> elbeto, sounds like a hardware issue
[03:54] <tirus89> wait, moving mouse
[03:54] <h3xis> ahahahha
[03:54] <LameBMX> and you should see something there about what type of vid card you have
[03:54] <tirus89> and red screen
[03:55] <maddmartigan> question for anyone willing to answer
[03:55] <elbeto> could be, but I don't know exactly what
[03:55] <daerogami> svish, go to a porn site, or some pop up sites. I guarantee no popus or viruses just to prove it
[03:55] <kyncani> h3xis: well, some distro do not apply security updates in a timely manner i think
[03:55] <h3xis> tirus89, that's the red screen of death
[03:55] <xtknight> elbeto: do you have a dual core CPU or Core 2 Duo system?
[03:55] <NkuMike> Hey I set up the samba, and I restarted just to make sure but my windows machine will not pick up the drive... it sees the computer on the network but when i click the plus sign next to it it shows no drives
[03:55] <h3xis> kyncani, such as?
[03:55] <svish> daerogami: lol
[03:55] <LameBMX> h3xis, dont scare the poor guy
[03:55] <tirus89> X is running
[03:55] <h3xis> hahaha
[03:55] <elbeto> no, it's an old computer, but it didn't happen before
[03:55] <LameBMX> tirus89, did you get a desktop
[03:55] <vanRijn_> does anyone use ubuntu on a powerbook?
[03:55] <tirus89> see h3xis, just got to wait through the bad stuff
[03:55] <maddmartigan> I'm looking for something that is not only an alternative to PrintMaster Gold but is also able to open it's source files or at least import them
[03:55] <tirus89> YESH DESKTOP!!!!!!!!
[03:55] <daerogami> svish, seriously when i saw the magic of linux's invulnerability to internet stupidity, i was bought
[03:55] <maddmartigan> Scribus is sweet but it lacks a bit
[03:56] <tirus89> is it installed now?
[03:56] <kyncani> h3xis: don't remember, but ubuntu applies updates pretty quickly (from the papers i've seen on the subject)
[03:56] <h3xis> loser
[03:56] <h3xis> i hope it explodes
[03:56] <h3xis> and dies
[03:56] <h3xis> and burns
[03:56] <tirus89> NO, dont say such things
[03:56] <spartas> vanRijn_, i use to use ubuntu on my powerbook, but i prefer os x
[03:56] <svish> daerogami: nice
[03:56] <h3xis> kyncani, as far as i know, all distros do that
[03:56] <carkeys> how can in install this pm file.. rpm -i wont work because of dependincies
[03:56] <Dot-Communist> anyone have ANY knowlage of xcompmgr
[03:56] <pokesmot> how can i tell what kind of video card i have?
[03:56] <LameBMX> tirus89, no its not installed
[03:56] <tirus89> wait, no drop down on the applications
[03:56] <carkeys> rpm*
[03:56] <LameBMX> but run that installer icon on the desktop ..
[03:56] <xtknight> !alien | carkeys
[03:56] <ubotu> carkeys: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[03:56] <h3xis> !rpm | carkeys
[03:56] <daerogami> does anyone know a list of ubuntu channels or linux channels in general?
[03:56] <maddmartigan> hmmmm...guess no one knows or cares or anything
[03:56] <vanRijn_> sparklehistory: okay.  don't suppose you happened to figure out how to get your alt key working (alt+left for back in browsers) with linux on your powerbook?
[03:57] <wasabi_> Dot-Communist: I believe xcompmgr is pretty deprecated.
[03:57] <LameBMX> tirus89, and jot down how you got it too boot
[03:57] <KingPest> has anybody else had trouble with banshee on 6.10?
[03:57] <daerogami> maddmartigan
[03:57] <Dot-Communist> whatever
[03:57] <Dot-Communist> idk
[03:57] <daerogami> what the problem?
[03:57] <maddmartigan> I'm looking for something that is not only an alternative to PrintMaster Gold but is also able to open it's source files or at least import them
[03:57] <Who_> Dot-Communist: is there any reason you don't want to use copmiz?
[03:57] <maddmartigan> Scribus is sweet but it lacks a bit
[03:57] <tirus89> LameBMX, um i did the install option with F6 and deleted the splash thingy
[03:57] <Dot-Communist> it dont work on my gfx card
[03:57] <xtknight> maddmartigan: what does printmaster gold do?
[03:57] <Dot-Communist> i have tried and tried
[03:57] <KingPest> will not play audio, synaptic doesn't appear to have installed all the plugins
[03:57] <daerogami> thats what im thinking
[03:57] <h3xis> xtknight, desktop publishing
[03:57] <tirus89> SHT, NO BUTTONS WORKING!!!!
[03:57] <h3xis> lols @ tirus89
[03:57] <maddmartigan> it's a simple print shop type program for cards, flyers, posters, calendars, etc
[03:58] <xtknight> hmm...nothing in openoffice is suitable right?
[03:58] <maddmartigan> xtknight?
[03:58] <crazy_bus> Has anyone elses gnometris changed.  For some reason after a ubuntu reinstall.  Gnometris controls differently.  The pieces dont seem to move as smothly.  Does anyone know anything about this?
[03:58] <Dot-Communist> and had an hour session with DBO in the xgl irc
[03:58] <maddmartigan> well, this is for my wife....I'm going to try to get her off of Windows completely
[03:58] <scott> Does anyone happen to know how to use the joy2key program?
[03:58] <maddmartigan> and that's the last thing there is to worry about
[03:58] <tirus89> so close, maybe restart work....
[03:58] <carkeys> how can in install this rpm file.. rpm -i wont work because of dependencies
[03:58] <seanj> still, a malfunctioning gnometris is distressing
[03:58] <h3xis> tirus89, watch out. it'll blow up
[03:58] <h3xis> carkeys, you cant install rpms on ubuntu
[03:58] <carkeys> oh.
[03:59] <seanj> you can actually
[03:59] <h3xis> carkeys, what are you trying to install
[03:59] <h3xis> you can but you shouldnt
[03:59] <carkeys> gaim beta 5
[03:59] <Falstius> maddmartigan: wine might be a solution for a single app.
[03:59] <seanj> that's true
[03:59] <seanj> some stuff isn't available any other way
[03:59] <h3xis> carkeys, what's wrong with what's in ubuntu's repos?
[03:59] <seanj> that's what alien is for, right?
[03:59] <daerogami> maddmartigan, have you tried scribbus?
[03:59] <maddmartigan> yeah, I've thought of that....I may give it a shot....I hate to stick to windows when it's not necessary
[03:59] <bruenig> !info alien
[03:59] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.64 (edgy), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[03:59] <carkeys> i jsut want beta 5... few changes that i perfer
[03:59] <h3xis> seanj, it converts it to a deb but sometimes this can cause stuff to fubar
[03:59] <h3xis> tirus89 <3
[03:59] <seanj> I've had that happen yeah...
[03:59] <bruenig> carkeys, there is gaim beta 5 deb
[03:59] <brainformat> can anyone tell me the what to write in terminal to see current distribution i have installed. i was doing some upgrades, but now i'm not sure if i have done it well... 10x
[03:59] <maddmartigan> I've tried Scribus but it doesn't allow me to import anything....I can probably convert her stuff to .png and import that way but it would then lose all of the layers
[03:59] <xtknight> maddmartigan: there is also vmware which is more reliable than wine but it's also more like windows
[04:00] <h3xis> carkeys, i guess you could check backports or build it from source
[04:00] <carkeys> brueng: in the repos? how do i get it...
[04:00] <Falstius> maddmartigan: here is the wine page on print master, looks like it mostly works: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=678
[04:00] <carkeys> h3: i dont wana build from source
[04:00] <maddmartigan> yeah, I'm running VMware on my laptop so I can tune my car....(rather proud of myself for that)
[04:00] <eitan> xtknight: here it is..http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/313/
[04:00] <maddmartigan> cool....thanks.
[04:00] <h3xis> carkeys, i guess check backports
[04:00] <atarinox_> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/not_really_into_pokemon.png
[04:00] <LameBMX> tirus89, dont restart .. if you get a desktop and it dies .. try ctrl-alt-backspace to log out .. and then log back in
[04:01] <carkeys> h3: what is a backport ?
[04:01] <maddmartigan> I was able to pass my USB car chip through to VMware and tune it that way
[04:01] <h3xis> !backports | carkeys
[04:01] <ubotu> carkeys: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[04:01] <tirus89> LAMEBMX, why you tell me this now
[04:01] <carkeys> oh
[04:01] <carkeys> i didnt know we had abot in this chan
[04:01] <maddmartigan> on 6.06 of course....6.10 seems buggy
[04:01] <carkeys> thaks ubot
[04:01] <seanj> lol
[04:01] <normmac> can anyone help get a Broadcom Corporation bcm4306 802.11b/g wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) working
[04:01] <h3xis> 6.10 isnt buggy :O
[04:01] <daerogami> brainformat: sudo -V
[04:01] <maddmartigan> normmac: yeah
[04:01] <kyncani> h3xis: don't remember, but ubuntu applies updates pretty quickly (from the papers i've seen on the subject)
[04:01] <daerogami> i think
[04:01] <kyncani> h3xis: sorry
[04:02] <maddmartigan> normmac: NDISwrapper
[04:02] <bruenig> carkeys, do the following: sudo bash -c "echo 'deb  http://repository.debuntu.org/ edgy multiverse' >> /etc/apt/sources.list" && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:02] <Falstius> h3xis: no, it is just a pain :)
[04:02] <butterflywifemay> Hello i need to know how to get my faces back on my computer
[04:02] <normmac> i've tryed i haven't been successful
[04:02] <xtknight> eitan: hmm, it looks like it's not being detected at all.  you may need another kernel module.  what's the exact model of your laptop?  Sony Vaio ...?
[04:02] <kyncani> h3xis: might not be true, but this is what i meant : http://lwn.net/Articles/150543/
[04:02] <maddmartigan> normmac: do a search on the forums for broadcom wireless
[04:02] <h3xis> kyncani, application updates yes, i agree with you there.
[04:02] <eitan> Sony Vaio VGN-N103G
[04:02] <normmac> ok, anyone else that has one who can help
[04:02] <bruenig> butterflywifemay, faces?
[04:02] <h3xis> kyncani, however as for security updates they're all pretty up to snuff
[04:02] <daerogami> brainformat: did it work?
[04:02] <seanj> butterflywifemay: faces? smilies? wallpaper? not sure what you mean
[04:02] <xtknight> eitan: actually i should have said, could you post that lspci line of your TI reader again?
[04:02] <bruenig> butterflywifemay, you mean in the login window?
[04:02] <butterflywifemay> yes
[04:02] <eitan> yea
[04:02] <maddmartigan> normmac: I have one and I'm typing from it now
[04:02] <Falstius> normmac: I have one and I used ndiswrapper.  It works fine.
[04:03] <seanj> I only ever saw faces with Mandriva...
[04:03] <h3xis> tirus89, give it up. d/l edgy. you know you want to
[04:03] <normmac> can i get your drivers maybe? and which version of ndiswrapper?
[04:03] <noiesmo> !lsusb
[04:03] <eitan> xtknight: 0000:08:03.2 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments 5-in-1 Multimedia Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO/xD)
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lsusb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <maddmartigan> normmac: you have to use NDISWrapper to make it work and you can find a howto on the forums
[04:03] <xtknight> eitan: i recommend leaving the external disconnected until we get the internal one working
[04:03] <seanj> Which would be adding different users for the computer
[04:03] <LameBMX> tirus89, let me guess you rebooted .. its all good
[04:03] <tirus89> h3xis, no, thish weekend, then i give
[04:03] <eitan> it is disconnected
[04:03] <xtknight> eitan: but ill see what i can find for the TI
[04:03] <xtknight> eitan: yeah i know ;)
[04:03] <h3xis> !ndiswrapper | normmac
[04:03] <eitan> oh okay
[04:03] <ubotu> normmac: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:03] <bruenig> carkeys, did that work?
[04:03] <tirus89> LameBMX, i've rebooted like 12 times now
[04:03] <maddmartigan> normmac: want me to find the thread for you?
[04:03] <eitan> i think i need those TIFM modules
[04:03] <Falstius> normmac: if you use ubuntu dapper it is okay, for some reason edgy defaulted to a broken ndiswrapper.
[04:04] <normmac> maddmartigan i've been all over the forums and the wiki
[04:04] <seanj> !adduser
[04:04] <ubotu> To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo
[04:04] <h3xis> Falstius, he could always build it from source :P
[04:04] <eitan> xtknight: but i coudlnt find...i think they're a part of newer kernels, I am running 6.06 updated
[04:04] <maddmartigan> normmac: be right back....
[04:04] <normmac> ohhh thats my problem then
[04:04] <Falstius> h3xis: he could, but he shouldn't have to.
[04:04] <xtknight> eitan: ok, well you may need a new kernel.  have you built a kernel before?
[04:04] <normmac> h3xis how do i do that?
[04:04] <h3xis> normmac, you need to have the kernel headers installed on your system
[04:04] <h3xis> then you need to obtain the source from the ndiswrapper site
[04:04] <normmac> i have the source
[04:05] <normmac> fromt eh site
[04:05] <h3xis> okay
[04:05] <wayco> can anyone recommend an easy to set up, inexpensive webcam for ubuntu?
[04:05] <eitan> xtknight: no i havent
[04:05] <h3xis> normmac, run uname -r in terminal
[04:05] <bruenig> !webcam
[04:05] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:05] <Falstius> normmac: you can explicitly install the right version of ndiswrapper using apt in edgy too.  (or compile it yourself if you want to learn something usefull)
[04:05] <daerogami> wayco, my creative webcam from walmart works
[04:05] <Wavesonics> hey i just changed monitors and now I cant change my resolution above 800x600, any ideas y?
[04:05] <kyncani> eitan: maybe upgrading to edgy would bring a suitable kernel ?
[04:05] <bruenig> !fixres
[04:05] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:05] <normmac> well how can i uninstall 1.22 and get the lates
[04:05] <seanj> I have a Logitch Quickcam that works well
[04:05] <xtknight> eitan: would you like to try that to fix the problem?  it is a fairly big operation but it's not too hard with the right guides
[04:05] <normmac> whats my best bet to get it working
[04:06] <h3xis> normmac, sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper
[04:06] <h3xis> normmac, i recommend building it from source, it's not hard at all
[04:06] <tirus89> omfg, i got a window manager up and it freezes
[04:06] <xtknight> eitan: it's mainly the CPU doing a lot of work compiling, but it is only a few commands
[04:06] <Falstius> normmac: I'll have to look it up, I run dapper on most of my machines :)
[04:06] <eitan> yeah I want to
[04:06] <h3xis> tirus89, it's fate that you install edgy
[04:06] <maddmartigan> normmac: sorry....I went back to dapper because edgy didn't like my wireless broadcom nic
[04:06] <eitan> so it'll work with 6.06, or will it upgrade to 6.10?
[04:06] <mad_tom> lets talk creative nomad zen extra
[04:06] <ctothej> crimsun: still with me bro?
[04:06] <mad_tom> ubuntu wont reconize it, it says its a camera
[04:06] <xtknight> eitan: the new kernel will work with 6.06.
[04:06] <tirus89> h3xis, SHUT IT ABOUT EDGY
[04:06] <jbroome> no one likes broadcom nics
[04:06] <mad_tom> lies i tell you
[04:06] <h3xis> ahahahahaha
[04:07] <h3xis> tirus89, you will kiss my feet when you get it installed.
[04:07] <maddmartigan> well, when it's integrated that's what you have
[04:07] <bruenig> hmmm
[04:07] <xtknight> eitan: the same kernel can be used for suse 10, fedora core, ubuntu etc.  kernel is just an underlying portion so by updating that you are not changing the distribution
[04:07] <tirus89> edgy is my last resort
[04:07] <eitan> xtknight:  oky
[04:07] <sparklehistory> vanRijn_: Sorry, not sure what you're talking about
[04:07] <eitan> okay
[04:07] <maddmartigan> I also tried a Netgear 802.11g nic and it didn't work either
[04:07] <eitan> can I see if the tifm module is included in the updated kernel?
[04:07] <maddmartigan> pc card of course
thanks for the info
[04:07] <xtknight> eitan: refer to this guide.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158  then report back after you complete step 5 (applying the 2.6.19.1 patch)
[04:08] <normmac> i just tryed to uninstall ndiswrapper and i got e: couldn't find package ndiswrapper
[04:08] <bruenig> !thanks | wayco it was me not bruenig
[04:08] <ubotu> wayco it was me not bruenig: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[04:08] <xtknight> eitan: actually we may want to check for support before we even bother
[04:08] <h3xis> normmac, then you dont have it
[04:08] <eitan> xtknight: okay
[04:08] <h3xis> normmac, so run uname -r
[04:08] <seanj> lol bruenig :)
[04:08] <xtknight> eitan: ill see what i can find, i know i saw one vaio with the TI card reader working, it was gentoo but we can use whatever kernel we need
[04:08] <normmac> 2.6.17-10generic
[04:08] <mad_tom> no takers on my ahem...creative...dilema?
[04:09] <eitan> xtknight: okay
[04:09] <h3xis> normmac, okay sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic
[04:09] <want2ubunt2> Total noob question:  Got 6.10 to install to an external usb hd, rebooted. Now all I get is"GRUB>" - what now ?
[04:09] <fus> seems unlikely that I'll get any help now
[04:09] <fus> will try later
[04:09] <h3xis> want2ubunt2, type "boot" and hit enter
[04:09] <h3xis> tirus89, you will.
[04:10] <Falstius> want2ubunt2: I didn't think grub worked with usb hds.
[04:10] <normmac> it is already newest
[04:10] <tirus89> h3xis, not yet, and i wont give you credit
[04:10] <LameBMX> tirus89, have you gotten back to a terminal yet
[04:10] <tirus89> LameBMX, i thought you left, how do i get to termanal
[04:10] <h3xis> normmac, cool. now you need to download the latest ndiswrapper source, which you say you have?
[04:10] <normmac> h3xis whats next
[04:10] <LameBMX> where are you on the boot
[04:10] <svish> looks like it is quite easy to upgrade to the next ubuntu release.. but can you downgrade after that? or is that impossible or really hard?
[04:10] <tirus89> WAIT
[04:10] <LameBMX> did you make it to a desktop?
[04:10] <normmac> h3xis yea
[04:10] <theblue> Hi all, is there any program that gives a Web-based interface to a console for the server edition of dapper?
[04:10] <tirus89> O GOT A LOGIN SCREEN
[04:10] <tirus89> NO
[04:10] <want2ubunt2> h3xis: tried that - says must load kernel first - ???
[04:10] <tirus89> IT LEFT
[04:10] <theblue> Or some other kind of administration?
[04:11] <tirus89> WAIT, ok, now what
[04:11] <h3xis> want2ubunt2, not sure then :/
[04:11] <h3xis> normmac, okay, are the contents extracted?
[04:11] <LameBMX> tirus89, where are you .. ubuntu@ubuntu or desktop
[04:11] <normmac> h3xis yea
[04:11] <tirus89> what do i do at the login screen
[04:11] <h3xis> k normmac have you tried to compile it from source before?
[04:11] <xtknight> eitan: the 2.6.19.1 kernel i have has support for TIFM, but it is not enabled by default.  enabling it is easy.
[04:11] <normmac> h3xis no completley new to linux
[04:11] <barbarella> theblue:webmin
[04:12] <h3xis> normmac, okay
[04:12] <LameBMX> tirus89,  username ubuntu no password
[04:12] <xtknight> eitan: if you think TIFM is the right one we can try enalbing tifm in the new kernel
[04:12] <xtknight> eitan: so complete the guide and then after youre done with step 5 report back
[04:12] <tirus89> no work
[04:12] <theblue> barbarella: That's not in APT, though.
[04:12] <theblue> barbarella: Is there anything in APT that could do that?
[04:12] <eitan> okay
[04:12] <eitan> will do, thanks!
[04:12] <h3xis> normmac, enter the ndiswrapper directory
[04:12] <LameBMX> tirus89, is this in gui or text mode
[04:13] <tirus89> gui
[04:13] <normmac> h3xis ok
[04:13] <LameBMX> and its asking for a username correct
[04:13] <tirus89> i think i got it to work, but error human gui
[04:13] <h3xis> normmac, type ./configure
[04:13] <h3xis> normmac, and hit enter
[04:13] <pedro> hi
[04:13] <normmac> h3xis just a sec
[04:13] <bruenig> !hi | pedro
[04:13] <ubotu> pedro: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:14] <pedro> anyone know the equivalence to urpmq in ubuntu?
[04:14] <h3xis> pedro, apt-get install <package_name>
[04:14] <svish> how can I search with apt-get?
[04:14] <h3xis> pedro sudo apt-get install <package_name> sorry
[04:14] <normmac> h3xis ok where do i type ./compile
[04:14] <normmac> *configure
[04:14] <h3xis> svish, apt-cache search packagename
[04:14] <pedro> ummm but i wnto to list all the package
[04:14] <LameBMX> pedro atp-cach search <package name>
[04:14] <tirus89> LameBMX, it loads the login, then i get a red screen then back to loging
[04:14] <h3xis> normmac, in the terminal in the ndiswrapper directory
[04:15] <normmac> h3xis how do i change the directory
[04:15] <pedro> filtering qiht a regular expression
[04:15] <LameBMX> tirus .. do the ctrl-alt-F1 and ctrl-c thing again to get ya to a desktop
[04:15] <barbarella> theblue:webmin is really easy to install from 'source'
[04:15] <ctothej> can someone help me configure a creative usb sound card for alsa? the usb sound device is not being loaded (ie. it is not in /proc/asound/cards )
[04:15] <h3xis> normmac, use "cd"
[04:15] <bruenig> pedro, yeah apt-cache search foo
[04:15] <ProN00b> i need a new computer, are there any recent setups that have prooven themselfes with ubuntu ?
[04:15] <normmac> h3xis ok i must have typed wrong
[04:15] <pedro> like this .............      urpmq -Y -r libgtk
[04:15] <theblue> barbarella: I understand that, but then why does ubotu say "Please avoid it."?
[04:15] <tirus89> h3xis or LameBMX, i got to login, then red screen, then back to login, what do I do?
[04:15] <Wavesonics> i just tried restarting my X server, didnt go so well
[04:15] <kyncani> pedro: apt-cache search    or   aptitude search
[04:15] <pedro> ok thanks
[04:15] <Wavesonics> had to restart from tty1
[04:15] <mad_tom> soo...noone knows anything about the creative zen xtra adn why it wont recognize?
[04:16] <LameBMX> tirus89, do the ctrl-alt-F1
[04:16] <noiesmo> theblue, webmin is know to be a security risk
[04:16] <Wavesonics> how else an i fix my resolution problem?
[04:16] <LameBMX> get to a terminal ... hit ctrl-C to break outta x and down to something usable
[04:16] <theblue> noiesmo: Ah.
[04:16] <kyncani> pedro: aptitude search is somehow more complicated
[04:16] <kyncani> though
[04:16] <normmac> h3xis ok
[04:16] <h3xis> normmac, you get it?
[04:16] <h3xis> normmac, alright youre in the ndiswrapper directory?
[04:16] <theblue> noiesmo: Is there any other program with similar functionality?
[04:16] <normmac> h3xis yea
[04:16] <theblue> noiesmo: Or that could give a console display?
[04:16] <h3xis> normmac, okay type ./configure and hit enter
[04:16] <tirus89> LameBMX, that doesnt work, just resets the user login time
[04:17] <noiesmo> theblue, I just use ssh to admin server's
[04:17] <Wavesonics> ./configure
[04:17] <emun> i do not see a parallel port in device manager in ubuntu 6.10, what can i do
[04:17] <theblue> noiesmo: Ideally, I would do that too, but in some cases, an SSH cliet can't be used.
[04:17] <normmac> no such file or directory
[04:17] <LameBMX> k then .. tirus89 hit ctrl-alt-F2
[04:17] <h3xis> normmac, type pwd and hit enter and paste here what you get back
[04:17] <barbarella> theblue:when you use linux, and don't know how, everything is a risk
[04:17] <Crescendo_> Are there any Lego CAD tools available for Ubuntu?
[04:17] <LameBMX> tirus89, and go through the F buttons till you find a terminal
[04:18] <tirus89> ok, i get "user not know to the underlying authentication module
[04:18] <normmac> h3xis i can't paste it's a diff computer
[04:18] <theblue> barbarella: I'm not going to honor that with a response.
[04:18] <h3xis> normmac, okay type make then and hit enter
[04:18] <noiesmo> theblue, k
[04:18] <normmac> ./home/oem/desktop
[04:18] <LameBMX> gah
[04:18] <h3xis> normmac, that's not where ndiswrapper is so type cd ndiswrapper* just like that and hit enter
[04:19] <tirus89> LameBMX, i get to a terminal, but no typey
[04:19] <Lunch> I've got a second Ubuntu box. Is transferring all my settings to the second box as simple as copying over the hidden directories in my home directory?
[04:19] <LameBMX> hit ctrl c
[04:20] <normmac> ./home/oem/desktop/ndiswrapper-1.32
[04:20] <h3xis> normmac, good, now type ./configure and hit enter
[04:20] <tirus89> LameBMX, nothing
[04:20] <LameBMX> does it have a lil # to the lfet
[04:20] <LameBMX> left
[04:20] <normmac> no such file or directory
[04:20] <h3xis> normmac, k type make and hit enter
[04:20] <emun> help please , there is no parallel port showing up in my device manager , what can i do
[04:20] <noiesmo> Lunch, pretty much
[04:21] <Lunch> noiesmo, thanks
[04:21] <normmac> h3xis ok it's doing somethink
[04:21] <normmac> h3xis ok it's doing something
[04:21] <h3xis> normmac, alright
[04:21] <tirus89> LameBMX, no, nothing to left
[04:21] <LameBMX> hmmm well try typing in bash and hitting enter
[04:21] <LameBMX> maybe its off the screen
[04:21] <normmac> h3xis 2 errors
[04:21] <kyncani> Lunch: yep, except admin settings and you'll have to install additional packages
[04:21] <LameBMX> prolly not but which F button got you this terminam tirus89
[04:21] <h3xis> normmac, what do they say?
[04:22] <tirus89> F6
[04:22] <normmac> h3xis make[1] : *** [loadndisdriver]  error 1
[04:22] <LameBMX> yea thats valid
[04:22] <LameBMX> hmmm
[04:22] <normmac> h3xis make[1] : *** [all]  error 2
[04:22] <h3xis> normmac, k one sec
[04:23] <Crescendo_> Are there any Lego CAD tools available for Ubuntu?
[04:23] <LameBMX> well i dont know what ubuntu has goin on with terminals ... something i wanted to play with .. but a later day ... after i find out how to link xkbbell to audio so i can make the water splash around on my desktop to my music lol
[04:23] <h3xis> normmac, type sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:23] <chico> I got my sound now
[04:24] <h3xis> chico, that's awesome, howd you get it
[04:24] <chico> what program will make my Audio CD works
[04:24] <Tyler> I don't suppose anyone here knows of a site where I can enter in a couple hundred domain names at once and check their registration status?
[04:24] <h3xis> chico, you mean play them?
[04:24] <chico> i dont know, i download those aoss then reboot
[04:24] <Tyler> Like to see if any are available?
[04:24] <tirus89> LameBMX, cant login, incorrect username and password
[04:24] <normmac> h3xis done
[04:24] <LameBMX> tirus89, with ubuntu
[04:25] <chico> i am playing it using this rhythmbox
[04:25] <LameBMX> and no password
[04:25] <chico> it says playing but no sounds
[04:25] <chico> lol
[04:25] <tirus89> LameBMX, yesh
[04:25] <chico> another sound problem
[04:25] <LameBMX> try ubuntu ubuntu ... or look in the forums for what to use
[04:25] <h3xis> normmac, type make clean; make
[04:25] <emun> can newbies get on here, is theere a problem with parallel ports in ubuntu
[04:25] <xtknight> emun: what problems are you having with the parallel port?
[04:26] <serpentine> hi all
[04:26] <ctothej> how do I load the snd-usb-audio alsa driver?
[04:26] <normmac> h3xis done
[04:26] <xtknight> ctothej: sudo modprobe snd-usb-audio
[04:26] <rghisi> hi all, does anybody here have any experience with ubuntu on Mac PowerBook G4?
[04:26] <h3xis> normmac, any errors?
[04:26] <LameBMX> well tirus89 im tired n time to hit the sack ...
[04:27] <emun> xtknight , ubuntu does not list my parallel port in device manager port works in winxp
[04:27] <tirus89> LameBMX, nothing on forums
[04:27] <chico> what other program can i use to play my audio cd
[04:27] <ctothej> xtknight, thats what I htough. thanks. its loaded, but still no sound
[04:27] <sh4rk> !nvidia
[04:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:27] <h3xis> chico, audacious. sudo apt-get install audacious
[04:27] <xtknight> emun: well are you sure the parallel port doesnt work?  it may not be listed since it's a very primitive thing
[04:27] <normmac> h3xis nope
[04:27] <h3xis> normmac, cool. okay do sudo make install
[04:27] <xtknight> ctothej: alsa does require some extra config, but beyond that i dont know how to configure usb cards, sorry
[04:28] <normmac> h3xis done
[04:28] <ctothej> xtknight, all good. thx
[04:28] <tirus89> LameBMX, dont leave me hanging, please
[04:28] <h3xis> normac okay type sudo ndiswrapper and hit enter. it should give you some kind of output back just so you know the command works
[04:28] <h3xis> normmac*
[04:28] <emun> how will it be listed and is there a command i can use to make sure, i do not see it though
[04:28] <vintage-vinnie> Hello everyone
[04:29] <xtknight> emun: other than using the parallel port for a printer, etc im not sure how to verify that it works
[04:29] <normmac> h3xis wroks
[04:29] <vintage-vinnie> I have a quick question is any one willing to tackle it?
[04:29] <wasabi_> no
[04:29] <h3xis> normmac, okay. do you have the .inf file for your wireless card?
[04:29] <h3xis> vintage-vinnie, we can try
[04:29] <vintage-vinnie> thank you
[04:29] <normmac> yea
[04:29] <chico> h3xis:  it says Could not find ..
[04:29] <normmac> and i just tryed to -i it
[04:30] <normmac> and it said it's installed
[04:30] <h3xis> normmac, alright. and it says the driver is present and stuff?
[04:30] <tirus89> LameBMX, its crashing because of the background wont load
[04:30] <emun> well that is the problem ubuntu is not detecting my lexmark printer on the port
[04:30] <h3xis> chico, alright try xmms. sudo apt-get install xmms
[04:30] <vintage-vinnie> I have an old box sitting around that office that I'm going to setup to run a local lamp for testing as well as samba to be the file server for all our comps
[04:30] <normmac> invalid driver it says
[04:30] <vintage-vinnie> here's the hard part for me anyways
[04:30] <xtknight> emun: ah alright. well i had a lot of trouble with my lexmark too.  what model?
[04:30] <normmac> h3xis i tryed a new one
[04:30] <nicholaspaul> Hi :) I screwed up my home folder ownerships and can't login, but I can get to a failsafe terminal. How do i change the home folder ownerships back to what it should be?
[04:30] <normmac> h3xis let me try the old
[04:30] <h3xis> normmac, alright you need to remove the bad one
[04:31] <xtknight> !lexmark
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lexmark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <vintage-vinnie> I want to be able to access the shares from home (ie. outside the natted network)
[04:31] <tirus89> !login
[04:31] <ubotu> login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.16-2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 306 kB, installed size 2776 kB
[04:31] <emun> model z11, i found some drivers for after no success with my 2 canon printers
[04:32] <normmac> ok driver installed
[04:32] <tirus89> !login names
[04:32] <h3xis> normmac, says it's present and working?
[04:32] <tirus89> !login help
[04:32] <ubotu> login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.16-2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 306 kB, installed size 2776 kB
[04:32] <xtknight> emun: try 'sudo modprobe ppdev' and then try 'gnome-cups-add'....thats a known bug that u have to do ppdev for some printers
[04:32] <IdleOne> performing upgrade to edgy :)
[04:33] <Nontitle> i have installed kubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu and have removed quiet from the grub menu.lst, now when the text shows up underneath it's blue. is there a way to change that?
[04:33] <chico> h3xis: should the file be in .cda format
[04:33] <normmac> yea
[04:33] <h3xis> chico, no
[04:33] <h3xis> normmac, okay, did you remove the bad one?
[04:33] <ozzloy> i'd like to trade files back and forth, i have an account on a server and i don't want to give out the username/pw, how would i do that?
[04:33] <normmac> h3xis yes
[04:33] <chico> coz the file in my cds are in .cda
[04:33] <vintage-vinnie> I have an old box sitting around that office that I'm going to setup to run a local lamp for testing as well as samba to be the file server for all our comps, I want to be able to access the shares from home (ie. outside the network).... anyone?
[04:33] <chico> i dont know if that makes any different
[04:33] <h3xis> normmac, okay type sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:33] <chico> difference
[04:33] <tirus89> h3xis, i was abbandoned by LameBMX, help me
[04:33] <ozzloy> i'd like to give limited accounts to someone else for upload
[04:33] <emun> ok , i will try your suggestion , i see it is hell with printers in ubuntu
[04:33] <normmac> h3xis done
[04:33] <h3xis> tirus89, what's wrong
[04:33] <h3xis> chico, did you get xmms going
[04:33] <chico> i did
[04:34] <chico> its running without music
[04:34] <tirus89> h3xis, i got to login, and then it wouldnt login
[04:34] <daerogami> Does any one know the ubuntu glx channel? i dont think #ubuntu-glx works
[04:34] <arcus> hola
[04:34] <chico> sound*
[04:34] <h3xis> normmac, okay do you have a light for your wlan lit up?
[04:34] <xtknight> daerogami: #beryl ?
[04:34] <normmac> it didnt come on and i tryed Fn F2
[04:34] <daerogami> xtknight no
[04:34] <h3xis> chico, in xmms you click Add then Dir and then locate your cd to listen to. i think it's /media/cdrom or something
[04:34] <barbarella> vintage-vinnie:you want to have a vpn connection..like openvpn or others?
[04:34] <xtknight> daerogami: well they may be able to answer xgl questions.  im not sure of another xgl channel
[04:34] <h3xis> normmac, okay
[04:35] <ozzloy> the server has php, perl, ruby, python, does anyone know of a web-app that would do what i'm looking for?
[04:35] <vintage-vinnie> yes barbarella
[04:35] <daerogami> k
[04:35] <h3xis> normmac, type sudo iwconfig. does it say there are any wireless extensions?
[04:35] <h3xis> tirus89, i dont know man.
[04:35] <vintage-vinnie> and be able to access everything from a windows computer
[04:35] <tirus89> h3xis, ima cry
[04:35] <h3xis> tirus89, i dont know where to start
[04:35] <h3xis> tirus89, install edgy god dammit
[04:35] <normmac> h3xis eth0 has stuff
[04:35] <tirus89> h3xis, not, not yet
[04:35] <h3xis> ...
[04:35] <IdleOne> h3xis lol chill dude
[04:35] <chico> it is running without sound
[04:35] <chico> grr
[04:35] <h3xis> normmac, what does it say?
[04:36] <h3xis> IdleOne, it's a long story :)
[04:36] <tirus89> yesh
[04:36] <IdleOne> h3xis yeah I know
[04:36] <barbarella> vintage-vinnie:nice..i'am doing it right now, with openvpn
[04:36] <ozzloy> anyone know of a project that can be run as a regular user, allows creation of limited accounts with upload/download abilities?
[04:36] <xtknight> doh it was #ubuntu-xgl not #ubuntu-glx
[04:36] <normmac> IEE 802.11b/g ESSID:"" Nickanem "Broadcom 4306"
[04:36] <vintage-vinnie> awesome
[04:36] <h3xis> normmac, awesome
[04:36] <vintage-vinnie> thanks barbarella!
[04:36] <vintage-vinnie> brb
[04:36] <normmac> Mode:Managed
[04:36] <h3xis> normmac, okay are you in dapper?
[04:37] <normmac> no Edgy
[04:37] <h3xis> normmac, even better
[04:37] <h3xis> okay
[04:37] <tirus89> h3xis, i know what your going to say
[04:37] <h3xis> normmac, see the network manager icon near the system tray?
[04:37] <h3xis> haha
[04:37] <tirus89> h3xis, dont you mention edgy
[04:37] <normmac> h3xis no
[04:37] <h3xis> i didnt say anything :P
[04:37] <chico> when playing my audiocd i hear no sounds, what could be the error
[04:37] <fangorious> what font controls menu fonts (panel, gaim, xchat-gnome)?
[04:37] <Uberriffic> I have Edgy installed, and I install linux-image-2.6.17-10-386, previously i have 2.6-15-26-386 installed. It installed, updated my /boot/grub/menu.lst, and updated my /vmlinuz symlink
[04:37] <val__> can anyone tell me how to change boot options. from reading on the web forums it appears that
[04:37] <barbarella> vintage-vinnie:if you need some answers, let me know
[04:37] <h3xis> normmac, okay are you on wired connection right now?
[04:37] <tirus89> or ima go over the edgy and shoot my comp
[04:38] <Uberriffic> but when i reboot it boots 2.6.15, and I don't see 2.6.17 as an optionin grub's boot menu
[04:38] <normmac> h3xis no different computer on wireless
[04:38] <h3xis> chico, run sudo alsamixer and check your volume controls. mainly "Aux"
[04:38] <val__> that power management settings are interfering with hardware recognition on an hp laptop
[04:38] <h3xis> normmac, okay in the terminal type nm-applet and see what happens
[04:39] <IdleOne> val__ probably need to hit delete when starting the machine that will take you into bios and in there you can change your boot options
[04:39] <normmac> bash nm-applet:command not found
[04:39] <LameBMX> tirus89, edgy would be down by morning
[04:39] <h3xis> normmac, okay try sudo nm-applet
[04:39] <normmac> h3xis that was to you
[04:39] <LameBMX> :P
[04:39] <aircraft> hey, has anyone here built their own notebook?
[04:39] <fangorious> val__: when the grub menu comes up hit 'e' to go into the edit menu for the currently selected kernel
[04:39] <normmac> h3xis same
[04:39] <val__> idle one,,,but it works fine with windows,,,,i was talking more about booting linux
[04:39] <tirus89> LameBMX, you know what, now you've turned on me?
[04:39] <h3xis> normmac, okay type sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[04:39] <nicholaspaul> aircraft: no, my IQ is pitifully in three digits
[04:39] <tirus89> h3xis, LameBMX, i see how it is, ok...*sniff*
[04:40] <aircraft> nicholaspaul: <3
[04:40] <fangorious> val__: did you mean kernel boot options, or hardware/bios boot options?
[04:40] <nicholaspaul> :)
[04:40] <h3xis> tirus89, i dont know how to help you or where to start. LameBMX worked his ass off and couldnt get it to work. you know my answer.
[04:40] <normmac> h3xis done
[04:40] <nicholaspaul> aircraft: have you found any leads saying it might be possible?
[04:40] <val__> i meant the kernel boot options
[04:40] <h3xis> normmac, k type nm-applet
[04:40] <h3xis> normmac, wait
[04:40] <Falstius> aircraft, a friend of mine did and I consulted with him on it, what is your question?
[04:40] <arcus> any one here from egypt ?  :)
[04:40] <tirus89> h3xis, fine, i conceed
[04:40] <aircraft> yep. asus, msi (msi only does whitebooks), aopen
[04:40] <h3xis> normmac, type nm-applet &
[04:40] <emun> xtknight, it opened the add printer dialog it detected only a pdf printer
[04:40] <h3xis> tirus89, haha.
[04:41] <nicholaspaul> aircraft:  oo i wanna see:)
[04:41] <aircraft> I was thinking of building my own ubuntu notebook
[04:41] <fangorious> val__: so after the bios screens you get the grub menu, where you can pick which kernel/os to boot
[04:41] <tirus89> h3xis, you have worn me down
[04:41] <normmac> h3xis its doing something, just flashign the curor right now
[04:41] <Falstius> aircraft, why?
[04:41] <SurfnKid> !postfix
[04:41] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[04:41] <fangorious> val__: you use the up/down arrow keys to select a kernel/os, hit 'e' and you enter the edit menu
[04:41] <ctothej> how can I recompile alsa usb driver into the kernel?
[04:41] <h3xis> normmac, sounds good
[04:41] <SurfnKid> besides postifx, what else is there to receive e-mail?
[04:41] <aircraft> Falstius: coolness factor, compatability
[04:41] <xtknight> emun: pdf printer? Hmm odd
[04:41] <h3xis> tirus89, if it doesnt work you can stone me to death
[04:41] <normmac> h3xis should it take a while
[04:41] <tirus89> h3xis, deal
[04:42] <h3xis> normmac, no.. :/
[04:42] <h3xis> normmac, what did you type
[04:42] <nicholaspaul> aircraft: 'Cos its there' :)
[04:42] <aircraft> but some of those pre-built asus notebooks are twaddling my tweedle.
[04:42] <Falstius> aircraft: it tends to be more expensive and getting warranty support can be a big hastle (warranties are more important on laptops than desktops generally).
[04:42] <normmac> nm-applet
[04:42] <val__> fangorious yes ive gone that far. but i need to know what to change,,,,from what i read the nvidia chipset
[04:42] <fangorious> val__: select the kernel line and hit 'a' or 'e' (not sure which one) use backspace as expected, or just type in the new option, hit enter to return to the edit menu
[04:42] <normmac> and it's clashign the terminal cursor
[04:42] <h3xis> normmac, okay hit ctrl+c and then type nm-a &
[04:42] <aircraft> Falstius, I've noticed.
[04:42] <normmac> but a network thing did pop up on the task bar
[04:42] <fangorious> val__: then hit 'b' to boot
[04:42] <aircraft> tirus89, this isn't a text adventure. :)
[04:42] <h3xis> normmac, that's it
[04:42] <val__> i have and the present kernel area  bit problematic due to apic/acpi issues
[04:42] <h3xis> normmac, but hit ctrl+c anyway
[04:43] <tirus89> aircraft, its a long story, im almost done here
[04:43] <normmac> h3xis now it went away
[04:43] <h3xis> normmac, and then run nm-applet &
[04:43] <h3xis> normmac, yes
[04:43] <normmac> h3xis after ctrl c
[04:43] <h3xis> it should have
[04:43] <h3xis> you need it running as a background process
[04:43] <fangorious> val__: do you know what option you're trying to add/edit/remove? you might try noacpi or noapic
[04:43] <nicholaspaul> How do i set the ownership of my home folder to default?
[04:43] <normmac> h3xis [1]  18339
[04:43] <aircraft> anyway, msi only sells whitebooks, and I believe they have a warrenty.
[04:43] <h3xis> normmac, good and the icon is back?
[04:43] <normmac> yes
[04:43] <aircraft> wee!
[04:43] <emun> xtknight , it is like there is a problem with the ubuntu detecting printer on the port
[04:43] <wylde> I can't turn my laptop off, what might be the matter? I can do init 6 and then just push the power button before it loads again, but I'd like to be able to do it the right way. any help? (I also cannot put it into hibernation. It gives me an error about some hal daemon)
[04:43] <h3xis> normmac, okay, click on the icon, do you see any access points?
[04:44] <normmac> h3xis but with a !
[04:44] <normmac> h3xis grey
[04:44] <Falstius> nicholaspaul: sudo chown -R `whoami`:`whoami` /home/`whoami`
[04:44] <xtknight> emun: that's most likely it.  it just doesnt have a printer driver.  i bet the parallel port itself is fine though.  ubuntu does have lots of trouble with printers
[04:44] <h3xis> normmac, okay...does it say what the problem is?
[04:44] <svish> um... why do I have two batterythings on my panel thing up north?
[04:44] <val__> fangorious i have noapic already...but linux does not recognise my video card and several other pieces of hardware
[04:44] <normmac> h3xis no network correction
[04:44] <h3xis> normmac, alright
[04:44] <svish> I can only remove one of them..
[04:44] <normmac> and the light on the front of my computer isn't on yet
[04:44] <ice63> jest do at root shutdown -h now :)
[04:45] <nicholaspaul> Falstius: thanks!!
[04:45] <Falstius> nicholaspaul: np.
[04:45] <h3xis> normmac, go into Networking in the gnome menu. is your wireless card listed?
[04:45] <fangorious> val__: the noapic option breaks them? or they're just not recognised regardless?
[04:45] <h3xis> tirus89, probably
[04:45] <tirus89> h3xis, i dunno, the drive is really hot, and the cd, is like weird looking now, lol
[04:45] <h3xis> hahaha
[04:45] <normmac> h3xis it says wireless connection
[04:45] <emun> i found a driver ,,, lexmark-z11-lz11-v2.ppd which i thought i had installed
[04:45] <tirus89> h3xis, instal prob found maybe?
[04:46] <val__> fangorious. noapic is making it run bettter, but still doesnt recognise much o fmy hardware
[04:46] <h3xis> normmac, ok click on it and click edit or properties or whatever
[04:46] <wylde> I can't turn my laptop off, what might be the matter? I can do init 6 and then just push the power button before it loads again, but I'd like to be able to do it the right way. any help? (I also cannot put it into hibernation. It gives me an error about some hal daemon)
[04:46] <h3xis> tirus89, what?
[04:46] <xtknight> emun: oh?  did you put it in the proper place?
[04:46] <wylde> help?
[04:46] <svish> Why do Wine configuration close when I click the Audio tab??
[04:46] <tirus89> h3xis, weird cd melting prob of install?
[04:46] <emun> maybe not any suggestions
[04:46] <h3xis> tirus89, i doubt it
[04:46] <xtknight> emun: try forcing it to use the parallel port for the printer.  and then click next and select the new ppd driver.  i guess it still wont autodetect properly
[04:46] <normmac> h3xis settings for interface eth0
[04:46] <ice63> wylde: ^^
[04:46] <normmac> h3xis which is what it's on
[04:46] <tirus89> h3xis, i dunno
[04:47] <h3xis> normmac, okay there should be a check box for "enable this connection" or something
[04:47] <wylde> yes ice63
[04:47] <tirus89> h3xis, i give up, i got the edgy dl'ing now
[04:47] <emun> i will try that and see
[04:47] <h3xis> tirus89, :)
[04:47] <tirus89> h3xis, 4 hour download
[04:47] <normmac> h3xis it was checked from ebfore so i unchecked it and checked it again
[04:47] <LameBMX> tirus89, :)
[04:47] <h3xis> tirus89, what's your down speed for your isp?
[04:47] <ice63> wylde: jest do at root shutdown -h now
[04:47] <fangorious> val__: bummer, it's not for the faint, but you might also look at compiling a custom DTD for acpi problems.
[04:47] <h3xis> normmac, okay, click Activate
[04:47] <tirus89> h3xis, 3mb a sec
[04:47] <h3xis> normmac, actually
[04:47] <val__> custom dtd?
[04:47] <xtknight> what's a DTD? :O
[04:47] <h3xis> tirus89, okay
[04:47] <LameBMX> k so i need food before sleep
[04:48] <Wavesonics> I just installed the firegl drivers for my ATI card from the repository, and my resolution is fixed, but my refresh rate still sux, how can i get more options?
[04:48] <h3xis> normmac, there should be a box that shows access points around you
[04:48] <wylde> ice63: what'll that do?
[04:48] <xtknight> val__: sorry i havent followed.  what chipset are you trying to get working ?
[04:48] <normmac> h3xis where?
[04:48] <h3xis> normmac, in the properties
[04:48] <normmac> h3xis i dont think my card is turned on or something because the light is still off
[04:48] <LameBMX> tirus89, the edgy release will have more up to date drivers and hopefull will get x up for ya
[04:48] <ice63> wylde: shutdown :)
[04:48] <emun> do i use lpt#1 , i see a canon sitting in parallel port
[04:48] <val__> xtknight, the hp 9008 laptop it has the mc51
[04:48] <h3xis> normmac, sometimes that happens
[04:48] <wylde> ice63: oh, uhh... i knew that
[04:48] <xtknight> emun: so the canon works or no?
[04:49] <tirus89> LameBMX, i hope so, if no, ima stone h3xis
[04:49] <i7ch> hi, does anyone know a good HOWTO/guide for becoming a maintainer of an official ubuntu package?
[04:49] <fangorious> xtknight: it's the file that tells about all the acpi devices on the system
[04:49] <xtknight> emun: use lpt#1 for lexmark i guess.  do u have another canon attached now?
[04:49] <normmac> h3xis what now?
[04:49] <h3xis> normmac, in the properties there should be a drop down box of some sort. can you see your local access point in the list?
[04:49] <fangorious> val__: i haven't done it in a few years, so you'll have to google it, or ask on ubuntuforums.org
[04:49] <normmac> h3xis not seeing it
[04:50] <val__> ok fangorious, thanks so much
[04:50] <h3xis> normmac, seeing any others?
[04:50] <emun> no way it a usb printer , i do not know why is there and epson is also tere
[04:50] <fangorious> val__ good luck
[04:50] <Tyler> Anyone here good with scripting? I have an issue where I'm needing to check about 5,000 .com domains against the verisign registry.
[04:50] <xtknight> val__: hmm... mc51 is that the name of the north brdige or the south bridge?  or is that the whole chipset (northbridge+southbridge on one die)?
[04:50] <normmac> h3xis Network name, password /type, connection settings (automatic)
[04:50] <val__> xtknight, its the nvidia chipset, let me check again to make double sure,,,,thanks
[04:51] <eitan> xtknight: okay I'm on step #6 now
[04:51] <h3xis> normmac, okay back in the terminal type sudo iwlist eth0 scan
[04:51] <emun> i think i may have to "purge "all these printers from my computer none works
[04:51] <xtknight> eitan: good job.  ok do step 6 actually and then report back after that.  after step 6 we need to edit the config
[04:51] <eitan> okay
[04:52] <normmac> eth0 interface doesn't support scanning : no such device
[04:52] <fangorious> what font (gnome/gtk, System->Preferences->Fonts) controls menu items (panel, nautilus, xchat-gnome, gedit, gaim)? I set the Application Font and only Firefox menus seem to use it
[04:52] <h3xis> normmac, okay... what chipset is it again?
[04:52] <xtknight> emun: could you prefix your messages with "xtknight: " so it highlights them on my screen?  thanks.  anyway so you mean the canon is in the printers or is it detecting a canon now?  do you have a canon connected now?  only one parallel port right?
[04:52] <h3xis> tirus89, how much longer it got?
[04:52] <eitan> xtknight:  I am asked this... IPC Namespaces (IPC_NS) [N/y/?]  (NEW)
[04:52] <tirus89> torrent on edgy
[04:52] <normmac> Broadcom Corporation bcm4306 802.11b/g wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[04:53] <tirus89> h3xis, got a torrent for me, me no want 3 hour dl
[04:53] <h3xis> normmac, okay one sec let me look it up
[04:53] <xtknight> eitan: hold down enter for like 10 seconds until all the messages disappear..itll take a while and it sounds cheesy but that's what you need to do ;)
[04:53] <eitan> got it =)
[04:53] <h3xis> tirus89, okay, how much longer does it have
[04:53] <h3xis> tirus89, you mean get?
[04:53] <tirus89> 3-4 hours
[04:53] <svish> well well.. time for bed. thanks for all the help everyone! good night!
[04:53] <tirus89> h3xis, torrent or no?
[04:53] <emun> xtknight , only lexmark connected to parallel port now
[04:53] <h3xis> tirus89, you can use a torrent
[04:53] <val__> xtknight its the nvidia mcp51
[04:54] <tirus89> h3xis, i need a torrent
[04:54] <Wavesonics> I'm using ATI drivers for dual monitor, how do I change where the virtual monitor attatches?
[04:54] <h3xis> tirus89, alright hold on
[04:54] <tirus89> h3xis, you got 6 mins
[04:54] <h3xis> omg hold on jesus
[04:55] <xtknight> eitan: a config dialog should be up after that.  find MMC/SD card support in the list at the left
[04:55] <eitan> xtknight: qconf opened
[04:56] <h3xis> normmac, i havent forgotten about you im still looking
[04:56] <eitan> xtknight: and I get some wierd stuff in terminal
[04:56] <emun> xtknight , maybe this could be from when i tried to install my two  usbcanon printers unsuccessfully last week
[04:56] <normmac> h3xis ok
[04:56] <eitan> xtknight: Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[04:57] <chiklit> I've been trying to install Cinelerra, but now it appears I'm stuck between libmjpegtools packages. apt-get won't let me remove libmjpegtools0c2a or install libmjpegtools0 and now it won't let me upgrade or install anything because it says I have unmet dependencies.
[04:57] <xtknight> val__: weird, i think mcp51 is just the south bridge ? im not sure
[04:57] <xtknight> eitan: disregard that, those are rather routine warnings youll get
[04:57] <h3xis> tirus89
[04:57] <dennister> g'evening pppl
[04:57] <h3xis> tirus89, http://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=ubuntu
[04:57] <tirus89> h3xis, yesh?
[04:57] <h3xis> tirus89, do the first one
[04:57] <dennister> anyone know if breezy is still being supported? can't seem to install dapper on this old Pentium II
[04:57] <val__> c51 is the host bridge,,,,mcp51 ontrols all sort of functions including the wlan and video
[04:58] <svanness> hi all.  new to ubuntu, so pardon what might be a silly question.  Installed Ubuntu on a Dell 700m laptop.  Have a wired connection working as well as a wireless connection.  However, I can only get it to work on one wireless connection.  Network selector can see other networks, but for I can't actually get them to connect.  Any advice/intro tutorials that might help with this problem?
[04:58] <xtknight> val__: well what types of problems are you having?
[04:58] <chiklit> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[04:58] <chiklit>  is the error I get.
[04:58] <eitan> xtknight: okay...I found the MMC/SD and I checked "TIFM support", is there any others I should check? there is MMC Debugging that is uncheck, and everything else is checked
[04:58] <zezu> /j #ps3dev
[04:58] <zezu> /j #ps3dev
[04:58] <zezu> oops
[04:58] <fangorious> svanness: are the other networks encrypted?
[04:58] <svanness> no
[04:58] <xtknight> eitan: i think from your dmesg that your cardbus (host controller for internal components) was supported.  let me just see
[04:59] <val__> xtknight the video card and wlan are not recognised and no matter what im doing i cant get linux to accept the nvidia drivers...
[04:59] <val__> reading on forums tends to suggest that acpi/apic maybe to blame
[04:59] <tirus89> h3xis, 4 hours, just as long
[04:59] <xtknight> val__: are they even listed in lspci
[04:59] <fangorious> svanness: have you installed network-manager?
[04:59] <h3xis> tirus89, it will go faster
[04:59] <tirus89> h3xis, thanks for the help, you too LameBMX, i'll be back tomorrow
[04:59] <Crescendo_> Are there any Lego CAD tools available for Ubuntu?
[04:59] <h3xis> tirus89, alright
[05:00] <emun> xtknight when i try to install drivers for lexmark i get message... the ppd /usr/share/ppd/custom/lexmark-z11-lz11-v2.ppd is already installed
[05:00] <val__> they are listed as mcp51 devices
[05:00] <minerale> what is the name of the package that holds a file with all the english words ?
[05:00] <i7ch> minerale: i dunno about specific packages, but those are normally called "dictionary files"
[05:00] <normmac> h3xis any thoughts
[05:00] <h3xis> normmac, still sifting through google. broadcom cards are always tricky :/
[05:01] <nomasteryoda> h3xis, you having bcm issues?
[05:01] <val__> xtknight...for example    PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
[05:01] <val__> 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a2)
[05:01] <val__> 00:09.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
[05:01] <h3xis> nomasteryoda, no, normmac is. he has ndiswrapper working and it sees his bcm4306 but it wont see any APs
[05:01] <SpacePuppy> !bcm43xx
[05:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:01] <xtknight> eitan: also look under Misc Devices, theres another TIFM thing
[05:01] <emun> xtknight, did you see the message i get
[05:01] <h3xis> wireless documentation is not needed
[05:02] <xtknight> eitan: that is, specific to SD cards it looks like
[05:02] <nomasteryoda> ah, i've seen that with ndiswrapper
[05:02] <n4r0zA633k> I need Ubuntu install floppy disk images. Anyone know where I can get them?
[05:02] <xtknight> emun: yes , hmm im realy not sure how to fix it.  how did you go about installing the driver?
[05:02] <eitan> xtknight: roger, it is checked
[05:02] <eitan> xtknight: along with the one in mmc/sd menu
[05:02] <xtknight> eitan: alright, save the config and exit the config program
[05:02] <malt> say i buy two 500 gb hard drives, can i link them two hard drives in ubuntu to make 1000gb?
[05:03] <normmac> normasteryoda: any ideas?
[05:03] <IntuitiveNipple> malt, yes, using RAID striping
[05:03] <xtknight> val__: that is pretty odd.  sorry im not sure where to go from there
[05:03] <h3xis> normmac, okay we're going to try something
[05:03] <fangorious> malt: you could look at lvm, or evms
[05:03] <normmac> ok
[05:03] <h3xis> normmac, that does not use ndiswrapper
[05:03] <normmac> ok
[05:03] <h3xis> normmac, do sudo remmod ndiswrapper
[05:03] <SpacePuppy> i could only get my bcm card working with the bcm43xx project.. ndiswrapper people told me to use that instead of their product.
[05:03] <n4r0zA633k> malt, you should probably set up RAID when you partition the drives
[05:03] <nomasteryoda> normmac, listen to h3xis
[05:03] <h3xis> SpacePuppy, yeah that's what we're getting ready to do
[05:03] <malt> oh :D
[05:03] <normmac> ok
[05:03] <val__> xtknight,,,,would it be ok to put acpi=off and noapic in my boot options?
[05:04] <Falstiu1> malt: yes, there are lots of ways.  Which you should use depends on what you want to do.
[05:04] <h3xis> normmac, you do that command?
[05:04] <xtknight> val__: sure you can try it.
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> my solution is to use the kernel's built in firmware method.. which makes the card go into "b" mode
[05:04] <eitan> xtknight: done...should I continue the guide?
[05:04] <xtknight> eitan: yes
[05:04] <normmac> h3xis command not found
[05:04] <IntuitiveNipple> eitan: what's the URL of the guide you're following? It might help me too.
[05:05] <val__> right now i have no idea what those commands do,,,so im hesitant to change anything in the bios
[05:05] <h3xis> normmac, ummm
[05:05] <h3xis> hey anyone know the command to remove a module off hand?
[05:05] <h3xis> is it remmod?
[05:05] <emun> xtknight , i used add printer and since it was not detected by ubuntu , i chose lpt#1 and selected the ppd i had downloaded onto my desktop
[05:05] <h3xis> rmmod?
[05:05] <h3xis> or what?
[05:05] <eitan> IntuitiveNipple: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[05:05] <Jordan_U> rmmod
[05:05] <h3xis> thx
[05:05] <IntuitiveNipple> modprobe -r or rmmod
[05:05] <h3xis> normmac, sudo rmmod ndiswrapper
[05:05] <normmac> got it
[05:05] <xtknight> val__: it doesnt change your bios.  noapic acpi=off cant cause damage and i doubt itll cause any software issues if u boot up the next time without it.  its just a debugging option that u pass to the kernel
[05:06] <fangorious> modprobe -r should remove any now-unused other modules, I think
[05:06] <n4r0zA633k> Ubuntu installation floppy images, anyone?
[05:06] <val__> xtknight and i would put those option in the kernel line of the boot file?
[05:06] <h3xis> normmac, do sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[05:06] <SpacePuppy> h3xis: one last thing.. use the script to install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh get the firmware if you can.. much better then messing with fwcutter.
[05:06] <h3xis> haha
[05:06] <h3xis> alright
[05:06] <h3xis> normmac, dont
[05:06] <h3xis> normmac, scratch that
[05:07] <h3xis> SpacePuppy, where is that again?
[05:07] <ON> hi
[05:07] <SpacePuppy> sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[05:07] <xtknight> val__: yes, google acpi=off noapic for an example, youll see where people put it
[05:07] <fangorious> ON: hello
[05:07] <xtknight> val__: but actually dont put it in the grub config yet
[05:07] <h3xis> SpacePuppy, it's already built in o.o
[05:07] <normmac> h3xis a little lost
[05:07] <h3xis> normmac, hold on
[05:07] <h3xis> XD
[05:07] <val__> ok thanks so much
[05:08] <xtknight> val__: you can specify it when you boot up.  its like a safe mode, except you can edit the parameters on boot up.  just add noapic acpi=off to the kernel command line ( i think u press E on the grub screen to edit the line, or something)
[05:08] <xtknight> emun: so you double clicked the ppd and it tried to reinstall the driver?
[05:08] <h3xis> normmac, try sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[05:08] <eitan> xtknight: alright it's compiling...let's see how fast it takes on this core duo ;)
[05:08] <xtknight> eitan: core 2 duo?
[05:08] <h3xis> SpacePuppy, is there a decent guide that you know of that uses your preferred method?
[05:08] <eitan> yah
[05:08] <val__> yes thats where i was going to do that
[05:08] <xtknight> eitan: same here, im surprised ur linux works at all with that cpu lol
[05:09] <eitan> oh really?
[05:09] <ON> can somebody help me??
[05:09] <ON> can somebody help me??
[05:09] <eitan> it even has scaling
[05:09] <h3xis> ON, what
[05:09] <SpacePuppy> h3xis: lol... nope just use the one i posted earlier
[05:09] <xtknight> eitan: amazing, i had trouble with getting freq scaling to wrok
[05:09] <emun> xtknight, yes
[05:09] <fangorious> !anyone
[05:09] <eitan> xtknight: it cuts the speed to 50% when idle, right out of the box
[05:09] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:09] <h3xis> SpacePuppy, that command?
[05:09] <normmac> command not found
[05:09] <chico> my mp3 files wont play .. HELP
[05:09] <val__> but would that stay the same or do i have to change it every time i boot
[05:09] <eitan> its running full now
[05:09] <h3xis> normmac, k
[05:09] <chico> err. its no longer mp3
[05:09] <xtknight> eitan: core 2 duo T or E series?  T2700/etc or E6300/..?
[05:09] <chico> its .cda
[05:09] <h3xis> SpacePuppy, he says it cant find the command
[05:09] <SpacePuppy> h3xis: but >read< it carefully.. it's not as clear as it could be.
[05:09] <chico> .ogg
[05:09] <fangorious> ON: just ask your question, if anyone here knows they will answer
[05:09] <h3xis> SpacePuppy, was it a site?
[05:09] <n4r0zA633k> Where can I get Ubuntu install floppy images?
[05:10] <xtknight> emun: hmm so if u add a LPT#1 printer and try to find the ppd in the list what happens?  do sudo gnome-cups-add, use LPT#1 and then look at the drivers for vendor Lexmark. see if you see it
[05:10] <SpacePuppy> breezy?
[05:10] <h3xis> edgy
[05:10] <eitan> xtknight: it's a T series
[05:10] <xtknight> eitan: ahh no wonder.  notebook right?
[05:10] <eitan> 1.6 GHZ
[05:10] <eitan> yah
[05:10] <h3xis> SpacePuppy, everything im looking at says to use the fwcutter
[05:10] <eitan> notebook
[05:10] <SpacePuppy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[05:10] <h3xis> SpacePuppy, thx
[05:11] <xtknight> eitan: it's the E series with all the problems :O
[05:11] <emun> xtknight, ok
[05:11] <SpacePuppy> arf!
[05:11] <IntuitiveNipple> n4r0zA633k: look in /install/floppy/boot.img
[05:12] <eitan> ahh
[05:12] <eitan> xtknight: is that the desktop ver?
[05:12] <h3xis> normmac, sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[05:12] <xtknight> eitan: yeah.  it's an awesome cpu though.  its not really the cpu that has issues with linux, its the accompanying mainboards.  though frequency scaling does not work with the c2d eXXXX out of the box
[05:12] <djm62> excuse me, I'm trying to file a stack trace with debugging information for bug #351972.  apart from epiphany-browser-dbgsym and epiphany-browser-extensions-dbgsym, what else should I install to maximise the benefit of the report?
[05:13] <fangorious> h3xis: did ON actually ever ask anything?
[05:13] <eitan> xtknight: oh i see
[05:13] <xtknight> eitan: mine reached 97C in temperature today though so they get hot...lol
[05:13] <h3xis> fangorious, hell if i know
[05:13] <normmac> h3xis couldnt' find package
[05:13] <eitan> xtknight: wow really?  I thought the C2D were low temp due to the smaller die
[05:13] <h3xis> normmac, k
[05:13] <h3xis> normmac, hold on
[05:14] <xtknight> eitan: well at least not with my setup.  but the cpu fan was running at 0 rpm for some reason (intel quiet feature?) so maybe i shouldnt blame the c2d.
[05:14] <eitan> hmm
[05:14] <pokesmot> Question: How can I query info on my video card in ubuntu?
[05:14] <eitan> thats pretty dangerous
[05:14] <furryballs> Anyone know how to fix this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1943833
[05:14] <h3xis> pokesmot, lspci -vv
[05:14] <xtknight> pokesmot: what type of info?  model?  command: lspci | grep VGA
[05:15] <h3xis> normmac, you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:15] <xtknight> eitan: yeah, i was shocked.  it couldnt even read the temperature for cpu1.  maybe it shut off.  at least this kernel was smart enough to detect that the temperature was out of line and it did throttle the clock.  but it wont throttle the clock for idling
[05:15] <normmac> ok how?
[05:15] <h3xis> normmac, type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:15] <emun> xtknight, it gives a warning 2 ppds have driver....lex5700 among a lot of of other messages
[05:16] <xtknight> eitan: if it weren't for another system fan right next to the cpu it might have been damaged
[05:16] <normmac> h3xis ok it opened the list
[05:16] <pokesmot> h3xis: thanks
[05:16] <xtknight> eitan: i dont know how it survived wtih just the heatsink :P
[05:16] <h3xis> pokesmot, ^^
[05:16] <h3xis> normmac, see the line "edgy main" anywhere
[05:16] <tonyKUN> !sudo
[05:16] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:17] <xtknight> emun: disregard warnings in the terminal.  it prints it just for debugging.... just try as hard as you can and ignore all errors you see.  can you load the lexmark driver to lpt#1 in any way?
[05:17] <normmac> h3xis yes
[05:17] <normmac> edygy main restricted
[05:17] <h3xis> normmac, do you see "universe" anywhere?
[05:17] <eitan> xtknight: Im surprised your mobo didnt shut it down after reaching such a high temp...there should be some temp threshold it looks for
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> no more TUX magazine ... :-(
[05:17] <h3xis> normmac, okay, add universe and multiverse after restricted
[05:17] <normmac> h3xis yea
[05:17] <normmac> universe is after some of them
[05:18] <h3xis> make sure it's after them all
[05:18] <xtknight> eitan: indeed.  i set it to 60C, the cpu has gone above that and nothing happens.  i think i need Gigabyte's software for anything to happen.  the threshold for the cpu is like 75C.  im surprised the CPU didnt shut down itself.  i was running coretemp and it reported 97C for cpu0.  rebooted, bios reported 75C (idle)
[05:18] <emun> xtknight, i think it tells me they are already loaded to lpt#1
[05:18] <jessid> hello friends....I as always having little questions...I have downloaded some drivers for nvidia, but now not even screensavers work, jejeje...some idea where can I find info about installing nvidia drivers?
[05:18] <xtknight> eitan: but on a good day at idle it's 27C...varies a ton.  at load it's 60C now that i put the fan on 100% all the time (or so i think i did)
[05:18] <h3xis> !nvidia
[05:18] <jbroome> !nvida | jessid
[05:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvida - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <xtknight> emun: interesting.  well does the printer work?
[05:19] <ircusr1> hi
[05:19] <h3xis> !nvidia | jessid
[05:19] <ubotu> jessid: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:19] <normmac> h3xis done
[05:19] <fangorious> ircusr1: hi
[05:19] <jbroome> i tried to tab complete !nvidia
[05:19] <h3xis> normmac, k save
[05:19] <ircusr1> Wassup?
[05:19] <xtknight> eitan: what's your c2d T run at (temperature)?  do you know of the coretemp.c program?
[05:19] <eitan> actually no, i havent checked yet
[05:20] <normmac> h3xis done
[05:20] <jessid> h3xis what is what you wrote?
[05:20] <emun> xtknight, no the printer does not work a lot of jobs in qeue
[05:20] <wweasel> How do I tell gFTP to use FTPS? This is stupid, but I just don't see how.
[05:20] <h3xis> normmac, in terminal run sudo apt-get update; apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[05:20] <eitan> xtknight: the laptop doesnt ever feel hot
[05:20] <xtknight> emun: im afraid i cant be of any more help.  googling lexmark and linux should yield tons of possible resolutions though
[05:20] <h3xis> jessid, it's a command for the bot to tell you what to do
[05:21] <normmac> couldn't find package
[05:21] <levander> xtknight: I've got a C2D e6300, it only fluctuates betweens 20.5 and 21.5C for temps.
[05:21] <xtknight> eitan: the core 2 duo is supposed to run a lot more efficient than the core duo.  My hp core duo feels pretty hot at the bottom (the 'breathing' holes)
[05:21] <djm62> Is this the best place to ask questions about filing bug reports?
[05:21] <xtknight> levander: nice.  but that's idle right?  custom heatsink?
[05:21] <h3xis> normmac, k one sec
[05:21] <pokesmot> Can anyone recommend the best way to go about 3D acceleration?
[05:21] <eitan> xtknight: although right now i can feel heat from the fan outlet since it's been running at full power for the past 5 min
[05:21] <levander> xtknight: retail heatsink
[05:21] <emun> xtknight, thanks, were you able to install your lexmark
[05:21] <jessid> h3xis  where are those commands and how can i test them without bothering to anyone here?
[05:21] <h3xis> jessid, i dont know test them on yourself
[05:22] <xtknight> emun: no.  it wasnt actually a lexmark but it was a free Dell printer that had lexmark elecytronics.  it was a z600 though and i never got it to print in linux but i didnt try for that long.  it wasnt that great of a printer
[05:22] <jessid> h3xis jaja ok!
[05:22] <levander> xtknight: well, almost idle
[05:22] <levander> xtknight: it's been awhile since i've really stressed this machine
[05:22] <h3xis> normmac, i'm going to show you a sources.list that should look like yours
[05:22] <xtknight> levander: interesting.  im using the retail heatsink/thermal strips as well with my e6300 but it gets no lower than 27C idle
[05:22] <normmac> k
[05:22] <xtknight> levander: do you have any linux issues with your c2d system?
[05:23] <eitan> xtknight: i'll check the temp in the future, it is interesting to see...I did see benchmarks between CD and C2D laptop temps and the C2D were lower only by a few deg C
[05:23] <levander> xtknight: originally, it was running at 70C.  But, I removed the heatsink and found a hair in between the heatsink and the CPU.
[05:23] <Music_Shuffle> ...lol
[05:23] <wweasel> How do I tell gFTP to use FTPS? This is stupid, but I just don't see how.
[05:23] <levander> xtknight: Plus, I'm not sure I had the mounting posts pushed down in the holes correctly.
[05:23] <xtknight> hehe
[05:23] <levander> xtknight: Are you running a Core Duo, or a Core *2* Duo?
[05:23] <normmac> h3xis my dcc might not work
[05:23] <emun> xtknight, i think the thing that will drive me away from ubuntu will be this headache with printers
[05:23] <xtknight> levander: core 2 duo desktop system, mainboard: gigabyte ga-965p-ds3
[05:24] <h3xis> normmac, is there a way that you can get on here on that other computer?
[05:24] <Soccrmastr> someone plz tell me how I can disable the Ubuntu CD source
[05:24] <jbroome> emun: don't blame ubuntu/linux for closed driver win-printers
[05:24] <Soccrmastr> im trying to install printer drivers and it says I must disable the ubuntu CD source
[05:24] <h3xis> !backports
[05:24] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[05:24] <normmac> no itnernet
[05:24] <h3xis> normmac, i thought it had a wired connection
[05:24] <jessid> what is the name of ubuntu 6.10?
[05:24] <normmac> i can transfer through flashcard
[05:25] <h3xis> jessid, edgy eft
[05:25] <normmac> no thats a wireless card
[05:25] <xtknight> emun: well if u devote a lot of time to it u may be able to get it working.  then make a howto so everyone else doesnt have to go through the same thing :P
[05:25] <jessid> h3xis thanks
[05:25] <emun> jbroom , do  you ] have a printer installed with your ubuntu
[05:25] <h3xis> normmac, okay you can do that then. get this file: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/bcm43xx-fwcutter/bcm43xx-fwcutter_20060501-5_i386.deb
[05:25] <levander> xtknight: One thing I figured out when I remounted the heatsink.  There are like these white posts on the bottom of the heatsink.  Then, you push these black posts get pushed down through the middle of the white posts.  You have to make sure to put the white posts into the holes on the motherboard.  And then, after the white posts are inside the holes, then you push the black posts down inside the white posts and the holes.
[05:25] <xtknight> my HP deskjet 722c works fine after modifying pnm2ppa (dapper) and sudo modprobe ppdev (edgy)
[05:25] <h3xis> normmac, install it when you get it transferred
[05:25] <xtknight> took some research.
[05:26] <levander> xtknight: I'm not positive I did that right the first time I mounted the heatsink.
[05:26] <jbroome> emun: a laser and two ink jets
[05:26] <levander> xtknight: And, are you sure cpu scaling isn't working out of the box for your C2D?  It did for me.
[05:26] <xtknight> levander: ya you have to make sure stuff snaps.  im pretty sure i did though
[05:27] <normmac> h3xis how do i install it
[05:27] <xtknight> levander: uhh i dont see any messages that would indicate it.  and i see no way of configuring how it occurs.
[05:27] <levander> xtknight: Yeah, it's hard to remember, but if you reseat it, I'd make sure to do what I mentioned above.
[05:27] <xtknight> levander: but i did see a reduced frequency in my cpuinfo some times
[05:27] <emun> jbroom, which models , and did you have them before installing ubuntu
[05:27] <jbroome> Soccrmastr: comment out the deb line in /etc/apt/sources.list that has the cd as an install source
[05:27] <xtknight> levander: i also need to find a way to control the fan speed
[05:27] <h3xis> normmac, double click on the file
[05:27] <n4r0zA633k> Where are Ubuntu installation floppy images?
[05:27] <levander> xtknight: 'cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "cpu MHz"'
[05:27] <xtknight> levander: mine got hot cuz my fan was at 0 rpm (intel qst feature apparently or maybe just fan failure)
[05:27] <jbroome> emun: you need to use my full nick if i'm going to see your questions in this flurry
[05:27] <wweasel> Guys, could you please help me? How do I tell gFTP to connect to an ftp server using FTPS?
[05:27] <eitan> xtknight: oh yeah, the heatsink exhaust is heating up now
[05:28] <h3xis> n4r0zA633k, i dont think there are any
[05:28] <xtknight> eitan: that happens during kernel compiles ;)
[05:28] <normmac> h3xis done
[05:28] <levander> xtknight: Yeah, I read about your fan not spinning.
[05:28] <levander> xtknight: What's the output of the above command?
[05:28] <eitan> xtknight: yeah Im looking at my cpu usage and its just maxing out
[05:28] <jbroome> n4r0zA633k: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies
[05:28] <xtknight> levander: 1866.670, seems to be full frequency now but ive seen it at 600 before
[05:28] <xtknight> levander: oh i disabled intel qst maybe thats why the fan is at full and the frequency is at full.  it must not be software controlled
[05:29] <n4r0zA633k> h3xis, that's good enough for me. How hard Is a TFTP-style network install?
[05:29] <levander> xtknight: Yeah, that's full frequency.  Mine's at 1596.000.
[05:29] <h3xis> normmac, okay you need the file bcwl5.sys
[05:29] <levander> xtknight: The 1596 I read is the lowest it goes.
[05:29] <normmac> got it
[05:29] <h3xis> n4r0zA633k, no idea :/
[05:29] <levander> xtknight: You definitely have something wierd.
[05:29] <jbroome> emun: hp LJ 5p, deskjet 955, and a photosmart 7900
[05:29] <levander> xtknight: What is gst?
[05:29] <xtknight> levander: maybe it was 1600 i cant remember
[05:29] <n4r0zA633k> jbroome, thanks for the link
[05:29] <jbroome> n4r0zA633k: np
[05:29] <xtknight> levander: that is, the reduced one.  600 or 1600 i dont know
[05:30] <levander> xtknight: I see, if you disabled scaling in the BIOS, yeah, it's probably not scaling because of that.
[05:30] <xtknight> levander: QST is intel's quiet thing like amd cool n quiet.  it activates speedstep and controls fan speed/frequency.  it was in my bios
[05:30] <h3xis> normmac, run sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/2.6.17-10-generic <location_of_bcwl5.sys>
[05:30] <levander> xtknight: That's probably also why your temps are hotter than mine.  You're running at a higher clock speed.
[05:30] <xtknight> levander: no, QST was on when it was at 97C. i think QST was underestimating or something.  i have no idea why the fan stopped though
[05:31] <emun> jbroome , sorry typo, that is interesting because i came to the cionclusion that hp is the way to go with ubuntu , i learnt it the hard way
[05:31] <xtknight> levander: well i dont know i take that back.  it was at auto, im not sure if QST was on or not
[05:31] <levander> xtknight: It was at 97C because the fan wasn't running I'm assuming.
[05:31] <xtknight> levander: meh i cant remember ;)
[05:31] <levander> xtknight: Turning on QST making the fan stop almost sounds like a bug in your BIOS.  Have you tried reflashing?
[05:31] <h3xis> oh my god jolly rancher gummies are so good
[05:32] <xtknight> levander: three times.  f7 bios->f8 bios->f9 bios now
[05:32] <xtknight> levander: but i dont know ill see how the F9 bios works
[05:32] <xtknight> levander: it happened on the F8 bio
[05:32] <levander> xtknight: And, you can reproduce this, turn off GST and the fan stops?
[05:32] <xtknight> levander: not reproducable at the moment.  only had it happen once but i dont really want to reproduce it
[05:32] <atarinox_> does anyone know how i change my default browser?
[05:32] <normmac> h3xis lib/firmware/2.6.17-generic/bcm43xx_microcode2.fw: No such file or directory
[05:32] <bruenig> atarinox_, what are you trying to change it to?
[05:32] <atarinox_> right now all the links i try to open in gaim open in the console browser
[05:33] <atarinox_> bruenig: firefox
[05:33] <levander> xtknight: Well, next time you play with it... You may just have had the fan plugged in wrong and that's why the fan stopped...
[05:33] <xtknight> atarinox_: system->preferences->preferred applications
[05:33] <h3xis> atarinox_, in the gnome menu somewhere there is Preferred Applications. there is a section for default browsers there. change it there
[05:33] <normmac> h3xis but it did cut the firmware it says
[05:33] <bruenig> atarinox_, sudo update-alternatives --set x-www-browser /usr/bin/firefox
[05:33] <h3xis> normmac, alright, sounds good enough for me
[05:33] <levander> xtknight: I understand not wanting to mess with it again since it's working, but running the computer for 20 seconds without the fan on won't kill it.
[05:33] <normmac> h3xis so did that error mean anything?
[05:33] <levander> xtknight: And, the fan should kick on right when you turn on the computer.
[05:33] <bruenig> atarinox_, also in gaim there is an option in preferences where you are supposed to set your browser
[05:33] <wweasel> !ftp
[05:33] <h3xis> normmac, no idea XD
[05:33] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[05:33] <h3xis> normmac, we'll move on
[05:34] <normmac> h3xis what now
[05:34] <normmac> h3xis ok
[05:34] <levander> xtknight: If it doesn't kick on right when you hit the switch you have a problem and can turn it off.
[05:34] <xtknight> levander: it's under my impression that running it 2 seconds without the fan would overheat the cpu...  that's just what i've read
[05:34] <xtknight> levander: it does work at full when i turn the pc on
[05:34] <levander> xtknight: Nah, it's not that bad.
[05:34] <h3xis> normmac, sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[05:34] <levander> xtknight: Head to #hardware, they'll tell you the same thing and may even be able to point you to doc.'s.
[05:35] <xtknight> levander: how would it work at all if it wasnt plugged in properly though?
[05:35] <normmac> h3xis temporary failure in name resolution
[05:35] <levander> xtknight: Well, if it was working some, then you're right, it wasn't how it was being plugged in.
[05:35] <levander> xtknight: Did you see the fan actually not spinning?
[05:35] <atarinox_> bruenig: i don't see that option in my version of gaim. and im on xfce, so there's no system>preferences...
[05:36] <h3xis> normmac, one sec
[05:36] <bruenig> atarinox_, in gaim, it is tools>preferences, then the browser tab
[05:36] <h3xis> normmac, zless /usr/share/doc/bcm43xx-fwcutter/README.gz
[05:36] <bruenig> atarinox_, did you run that command
[05:36] <xtknight> levander: i didnt actually bother to listen or open the case.  i should have.  but i saw 0 rpm in the bios reading and 75C on CPU.  that's a record for idle temp but that was just a few seconds after it was 97C and cpu was at 100% so it could have just been cooling down
[05:36] <atarinox_> yeah i ran the command...
[05:37] <atarinox_> oh ok found the browser tab
[05:37] <bruenig> atarinox_, also preferred applications is in applications>settings>preferred applications in xubuntu
[05:37] <xtknight> levander: i turned the pc off immediately after i saw 75C and waited 3 mins before powering on again, it was 60C and went down from there
[05:37] <bruenig> or xfce
[05:37] <atarinox_> thanks
[05:37] <normmac> no such file or dir
[05:38] <h3xis> normmac, k one sec
[05:38] <jessid> !nvidia | jessid
[05:38] <ubotu> jessid: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:39] <xtknight> levander: cpu0 and cpu1 are at 54 C right now with 0% cpu
[05:39] <xtknight> levander: this coretemp program may be buggy though.  it subtracts a value  from tjmax and this program assumes 85.  some are 100 (or maybe its vice versa)
[05:39] <jessid> !536EP
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 536EP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <cafuego_> xtknight: What is the ambient temperature in the room there?
[05:40] <xtknight> cafuego: around 66 F
[05:40] <cafuego_> What is that in real units?
[05:40] <jessid> !who
[05:40] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:40] <xtknight> cafuego: we dont use real units ;p
[05:41] <levander> xtknight: If it happens again, I'd try reseating your heatsink.  Make sure the mounting posts are on tight and that there is nothing in between the CPU and the heatsink.
[05:41] <jessid> !applets
[05:41] <ubotu> To add useful applets to your panel, right click on the panel and choose "Add applet"
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> cafuego_: (66 - 32) * 5 / 9, of course
[05:41] <xtknight> cafuego: 18.8 C
[05:41] <bruenig> Fahrenheit = arbitrary awesomeness
[05:41] <levander> Nothing except for the thermal paste.
[05:41] <cafuego_> 18.9C - ok Check yer cpu fan.
[05:41] <Hazuki> C = ((F-32)*5)/9
[05:41] <jessid> chao!
[05:41] <xtknight> levander: roger
[05:41] <cafuego_> tonyyarusso: You forgot the +273.15 ;-)
[05:42] <levander> xtknight: Do you have the lm-sensors package installed so you can check the temps from the desktop?
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> cafuego_: Oooo, you wanted those units!
[05:42] <Hazuki> cafuego, that's Kelvin...only physics majors measure their case temp in Kelvin
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> :P
[05:42] <levander> xtknight: With lm-sensors you don't have to go into the BIOS to check the temps.  Can just check it from Linxu.
[05:42] <xtknight> levander: not sure, i probably have lm-sensors but im using coretemp.c, some file i found on google to read core duo temperatures.  it uses the on-die DTS (digital tmeperature sensor).  it measures the hottest part of the cpu so the bios may be retrieving something else
[05:43] <normmac> h3xis still looking?
[05:43] <h3xis> normmac, download this file: http://sidulus.textdrive.com/bcmwl5sys.zip unzip it, and store it on the desktop of the computer
[05:43] <cafuego_> xtknight: I've found more c2d chipsets aren't properly supported yet by lm_sensors :-(
[05:43] <cafuego_> h3xis: ubuntu.cafuego.net has a firmware .deb
[05:43] <h3xis> isnt lm_sensors deprecated?
[05:43] <levander> xtknight: Well, the motherboard has sensors on it.  This coretemp.c can't add sensors onto the motherboard, it's just software.  It's got to be using the same sensors the BIOS is I'd think.
[05:43] <xtknight> cafuego: the on-die DTS should be supported .  i dont know which sensor my board uses
[05:44] <h3xis> cafuego, i know but that .sys file is needed
[05:44] <cafuego_> h3xis: No, just in the kernel these days
[05:44] <dennister> How come I can't find breezy to download anywhere? can anyone link me...?
[05:44] <h3xis> dennister, it might not be supported :/
[05:44] <bruenig> dennister, why do you want that
[05:44] <bruenig> oh and it should still be supported for 4 more months
[05:44] <xtknight> i mean maybe the BIOS is reading the Natl Semi/etc sensor on the motherboard in another place, and coretemp is reading the on-die sensor.  i have a hunch that theyre both using the on-die sensor though
[05:45] <dennister> i was told it was...cause I'm trying to install it on an old Pentium II that won't handle dapper
[05:45] <levander> After running install-css.sh and installing all the bad, ugly, and ffmpeg codecs, do you then have to reboot to watch DVD's with totem?
[05:45] <normmac> h3xis extracted?
[05:45] <Hazuki> dennister, do you have 128+ MB of RAM in there?
[05:45] <Hazuki> you might want Xubuntu otherwise
[05:45] <bruenig> dennister, install xubuntu
[05:45] <dennister> it's a loaner for some kids who just got their first apartment...have 256 mb ram
[05:45] <h3xis> normmac, yeah, extract it. it should have the .sys file in it
[05:45] <levander> xtknight: Yeah, okay.  Maybe there is more than one set of sensors on the motherboard...
[05:45] <cafuego_> h3xis: if you use the deb you need no extraction, it contains all firmware parts that are needed
[05:45] <bruenig> dennister, dapper will run on 256
[05:45] <Hazuki> dennister, xubuntu might be a better idea anyway...you have the RAM for Gnome but the cpu is a little underpowered
[05:46] <bruenig> dennister, but xubuntu will run more smoothly
[05:46] <dennister> well it's been sitting there for over an hour, doing nuthin
[05:46] <normmac> h3xis got it
[05:46] <mitrovarr> anyone have aiglx/beryl going on a nvidia 8800?  linux support on them is a bit buggy still
[05:46] <levander> cafuego_: I actually misread something you said above.  66F isn't bad.  I thought you meant 66C.
[05:46] <h3xis> cafuego, i dont know where it would put the firmware parts
[05:47] <cafuego_> levander: ambient, not cpu temp.
[05:47] <mitrovarr> my graphics card idles at 60c
[05:47] <Hazuki> good Lord
[05:47] <mitrovarr> I understand that's typical for that model, though.
[05:47] <cafuego_> h3xis: In /lib/firmware, where they need to be <heh>
[05:47] <xtknight> levander: 66F (18.9C) is the temperature of my AC so it should roughly be my ambient room temp
[05:47] <h3xis> cafuego, i dont know man. im just going by a guide.
[05:47] <levander> mitrovarr: How do you know the temperature of your graphics card?
[05:47] <cafuego_> h3xis: I created the .deb, it works fine on my iBook and PC laptop.
[05:47] <Hazuki> my CPU usually idles at room temp and I've seen it hit 43 C when pegged for hours straight...
[05:48] <levander> xtknight: you keep it cold in your room...
[05:48] <mitrovarr> levander:  It has a sensor.  Also, you can feel the second slot on the back of the computer (it's a two-slotter) and it is nice and toasty.
[05:48] <cafuego_> Hazuki: My wife's core 2 seems to be running at 68C
[05:48] <xtknight> levander: i have good circulation :P
[05:48] <h3xis> normmac, sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware <path_to_the_bcwl5.sys_file>
[05:48] <cafuego_> (idle)
[05:48] <levander> mitrovarr: What card is it that has a sensor?  I've been trying to figure out the temp on my graphics card.
[05:48] <mitrovarr> I hear these cards burn 220-280W at load and not much less idle.
[05:48] <Hazuki> cafuego, I've never used a Core 2 Duo, but that sounds really hot for what's supposed to be an energy-efficient CPU
[05:48] <xtknight> you can use NVclock to read graphics card temp
[05:48] <mitrovarr> levander:  8800gts.
[05:48] <levander> mitrovarr: How do you read the sensors? With what program?
[05:48] <xtknight> 7800gt also has a temp sensor
[05:48] <drano> i'm having some problems with the nvidia driver. whenever gdm starts, x fails to start because there is a mismatch between the nvidia kernel module and the nvidia xorg module. however, if i rmmod nvidia && modprobe nvidia and then start gdm, it works. any ideas?
[05:49] <normmac> same error
[05:49] <xtknight> and 6800 series
[05:49] <levander> mitrovarr: Ah, I've got a 7300.
[05:49] <mitrovarr> levander:  The drivers, but I'm a dual-booter and that's just something I recall from windows.
[05:49] <levander> mitrovarr: Maybe I just don't have a sensor.
[05:49] <cafuego_> Hazuki: Well, the util is somewhat old, so I don't know if it reports correctly at all.
[05:49] <xtknight> levander:  7300 may also have a temp sensor.. have u tried nvclock?
[05:49] <cafuego_> Hazuki: At the same time my amd64 is running at ambient +1 atm
[05:49] <stub1> firefox crashes just after loading many web sites
[05:49] <mitrovarr> levander:  I'll check the nvidia server conrol panel.
[05:49] <levander> xtknight: This box is Linux only, does nvclock run on Linux?
[05:49] <normmac> h3xis same error from the one we jsut moved on from
[05:49] <xtknight> levander: yup
[05:49] <mitrovarr> levander:  It does indeed have a core temperature monitor, even in linux.
[05:49] <h3xis> normmac, hm
[05:50] <h3xis> cafuego, where do i find that .deb you were speaking of?
[05:50] <mitrovarr> levander:  69 deg. C, just sitting here rendering in 2d.
[05:50] <Hazuki> cafuego, do you mind compiling customized kernels? You may be able to find the specific i2c support for the Core 2 Duo in the 2.6.19 kernel
[05:50] <dennister> this is wild...was able to get breezy installed before on this same machine when it still had only 128 MB ram...now bought 256 MB and nada
[05:50] <Hazuki> dennister, do the RAM speeds and types match up?
[05:50] <xtknight> Hazuki: i have the 2.6.19.1 kernel and a core 2 duo.  what i2c support do you mean?
[05:50] <dennister> Hazuki: ram types?
[05:51] <cafuego_> Hazuki: Supposedly, but I'ev not found it - also not in 2.6.20-rc2
[05:51] <mitrovarr> levander:  If you did a manual install from the nvidia site (I had to, 8800 drivers are brand new) you'll have an icon for 'Nvidia X Server Settings' somewhere.  Go into there, check under 'GPU 0', there should be a setting for 'Thermal Monitor'.
[05:51] <Hazuki> xtknight, i2c is a sensor type. If you know your mobo, check to see if the kernel supports is sensors
[05:51] <xtknight> oh true
[05:51] <normmac> h3xis i honestly have no idea, it still is showign up under eth0 so you know
[05:51] <Hazuki> dennister, RAM for a P2 should probably SDRAM at 100 MHz
[05:51] <xtknight> Hazuki: ah so you mean for motherboard sensors (not the on-die CPU sensor)?
[05:51] <h3xis> normmac, yeah.
[05:51] <h3xis> normmac, i'm still looking
[05:51] <mitrovarr> levander:  The shutdown threshhold is 110 deg. C, frighteningly enough.  If it got that hot, it could theoretically boil the coolant in a water-cooled system.
[05:52] <levander> mitrovarr: nvidia-gtk is in the repositories.  I just installed it, but don't see a temperature reading in the UI.
[05:52] <Hazuki> xtknight, I think they're basically covered by the same options in the kernel...not too sure
[05:52] <cafuego_> Hazuki: If it's a sub-300MHz it'll use 66MHz
[05:52] <h3xis> normmac, get this and put it on the desktop
[05:52] <dennister> Hazuki: yes, and that's what I bought today: 168-pin pc100 simms, which is what a PII needs
[05:52] <xtknight> Hazuki: the on-die one is stored in a MSR so no new kernel needed
[05:52] <h3xis> normmac, http://boredklink.googlepages.com/wl_apsta.o
[05:52] <normmac> i have that
[05:52] <h3xis> you do?
[05:52] <mitrovarr> levander:  You don't see a thermal monitoring section in the menu that pops when you run 'nvidia-settings'?
[05:52] <levander> mitrovarr: Under "Graphics Processor" it does say "Unknown Nvidia card"
[05:52] <cafuego_> normmac: Lets make your life a bit easier.
[05:52] <h3xis> cafuego_, halllppp
[05:53] <xtknight> levander: nvidia repo drivers or latest nvidia ones?  u may need the latest
[05:53] <normmac> h3xis i have it from trying on my own
[05:53] <h3xis> oh
[05:53] <stub1> how do I keep firefox from crashing
[05:53] <levander> mitrovarr: nvidia-settings is a different program, hold on...
[05:53] <normmac> cafuego_ please do
[05:53] <h3xis> stub1, switch to a diff browser :)
[05:53] <cafuego_> normmac: Download and install http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/edgy-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb
[05:53] <dennister> I actually bought some 64MB simms for this same pc over ayear ago, b4 i bought my new 64-bit system
[05:53] <cafuego_> normmac: it will put the firmware parts where they need to go.
[05:53] <Hazuki> wow, simms...I haven't seen those in ages
[05:53] <dennister> yeah...they're pretty old
[05:53] <levander> mitrovarr: Great! There it is.  I'm running at 55C now.
[05:54] <normmac> cafuego_ ok
[05:54] <dennister> finding a place that still sold them wasn't easy
[05:54] <levander> mitrovarr: What's the program to check it under Windows?  I've got another Windows box running a 6200 card.
[05:54] <mitrovarr> Levander:  Sweet.  Guess you have a bit less of a space-heater going there than I do.
[05:54] <xtknight> my 7800gt idles at 44C :P
[05:54] <mitrovarr> levander:  Um, it's in the new control panel, under thermal monitoring.
[05:54] <dennister> mitrovarr: did u get nvidia-settings working?
[05:54] <cafuego_> as systems blow up, you invariable end up with spare rem :-)
[05:55] <mitrovarr> dennister:  Yes, works great.  I have to use it because the KDE configurator forces me to retarded refresh ratings (51 or 59 hz.)
[05:55] <dennister> cafuego_: great, ship em over :)
[05:55] <mitrovarr> dennister:  err, refresh rates.
[05:55] <normmac> cafuego_ i'm using edgy is that ok
[05:55] <levander> mitrovarr: It's a fanless 7300.  I buy them because they are silent.  I always get the low end graphics card without a fan.  I don't do any real 3D work on my PC.  Probably the most is Screensaver.
[05:55] <aN1> anyone has a kiba-dock-amd64.deb that they can share with me?
[05:55] <aN1> i tried to make but always some problem
[05:55] <cafuego_> normmac: yup, np.
[05:55] <levander> mitrovarr: What's the Windows program to check the temp on an Nvidia card?
[05:55] <mitrovarr> levander:  Ah.  Mine is a serious gaming graphics card, that has adaptive fan management.  The temp is always high but never seems to go up much.
[05:55] <h3xis> cafuego_, after normmac does this then what?
[05:55] <cafuego_> dennister: They're not worth the postage cost <heh>
[05:55] <mitrovarr> levander:  It's an option in the control panel
[05:55] <normmac> h3xis done
[05:55] <cafuego_> h3xis: Reboot, use wifi.
[05:56] <mitrovarr> levander:  The Nvidia control panel.
[05:56] <h3xis> k
[05:56] <h3xis> normmac, reboot
[05:56] <normmac> cafuego_ reboot it?
[05:56] <normmac> ok
[05:56] <levander> mitrovarr: Yeah, if you play games, you got to have a big graphics card... I just don't.  Spend too much time on my PC without games.
[05:56] <dennister> lol...yeah, but i could see the freenet needing some real bad
[05:56] <normmac> rebooting
[05:56] <cafuego_> normmac: Yeah, that;'s the easiest way to unload various module and load them properly.
[05:56] <cafuego_> where properly == with firmware
[05:56] <mitrovarr> levander:  Of course.  At least you have something discreet, not one of those integrated crimes agaist humanity.
[05:57] <dennister> i have a meeting with the freenet's exec director tomorrow, and the city gave them 2000 PII's and PIII's they want to sell at incredibly low rates as a fundraiser
[05:57] <mitrovarr> dennister:  Wow, that's cool.  Are they going to linux them up?
[05:57] <dennister> we may be installing ubuntu on them
[05:57] <Hazuki> *the* freenet, the anonymous network?
[05:57] <xtknight> make a beowulf cluster
[05:57] <dennister> but we'll need breezy...and if i can't find a download site...
[05:57] <levander> mitrovarr: I love having a quiet computer.  If I did start playing games, I'd have to cough up the cash for one of those heatpipe coolers for my video card...
[05:58] <Hazuki> you probably want to run, ardon my bias, one of the BSDs or Gentoo on that cluster
[05:58] <Hazuki> gentoo will take forever to compile though
[05:58] <Hazuki> even with 2000 machines in distcc >>
[05:58] <mitrovarr> levander:  Ah,  Mine is like a jet taking off; I had 12 fans at last count.
[05:58] <mitrovarr> levander:  performance is nice, though.
[05:58] <levander> mitrovarr: I hope you keep that thing under your desk and not on it.
[05:58] <normmac> cafuego_ YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
[05:58] <normmac> thanks for all the help guys
[05:58] <cafuego_> Hazuki: Even better, sell them on ebay and buy decent hardware for the profit. Ends up same performance, but far less power use and heat output ;-)
[05:59] <dennister> if i can't get dapper to load up on this PII, we won't be doing these low-income people any favours trying to sell them breezy if it's not going to be supported in a few months
[05:59] <levander> Maybe under the desk is even a bad place, could catch the carpet on fire
[05:59] <mitrovarr> levander:  Oh, no, it's right in plain sight (and hearing.)  I just turn up the music a little.  You get used to it (or your hearing gets worse; not sure.)
[05:59] <h3xis> normmac, it work?
[05:59] <Hazuki> cafuego, would someone really buy that many?
[05:59] <normmac> h3xis thanks
[05:59] <h3xis> yeah
[05:59] <normmac> working google loaded up
[05:59] <h3xis> sorry i couldnt get it to work before :/
[05:59] <normmac> i'll be back from ubuntu
[05:59] <cafuego_> normmac: yay :-)
[05:59] <normmac> question
[05:59] <xtknight> i don't see why ubuntu wouldn't work on a P2
[05:59] <xtknight> very old, linux works great with old stuff
[05:59] <dennister> well, i can't get it to load for some reason
[05:59] <mitrovarr> dennister:  Breezy is the one that with long term support, right?  I'm sure there's lots of downloads for it.
[05:59] <cafuego_> xtknight: Dapper with Gnome likes ram.
[05:59] <normmac> if i reformat at somepoint can i use that last deb i downlaoded to make it work right away
 anyone has a kiba-dock-amd64.deb that they can share with me?
 i tried to make but always some problem
[06:00] <cafuego_> normmac: Yes.
[06:00] <Hazuki> A machine like a P2 probably would do best running a really minimal Slackware or Feather Linux distro, or one of the BSDs
[06:00] <xtknight> cafuego_: true.  itll work, just slow.  that's what xubuntu is for though :)
[06:00] <Random_Transit> hey, i'm having a huge problem with a broken package
[06:00] <Hazuki> preferably OpenBSD if it's being used as a router
[06:00] <mitrovarr> I think ubuntu on a P2 would be pushing it.  Working but slow.
[06:00] <dennister> no, there are lots of downloads for dapper, with long term support, breezy seems to be gone from ubuntu.com site
[06:00] <cafuego_> normmac: Have a look at http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/edgy-cafuego/bcm43xx/  - it has some instructions on how to automatically get updates.
[06:00] <mitrovarr> I'd do Xubuntu or maybe even a minimalistic linux like DSL.
[06:01] <Hazuki> *nods* I've used Xubuntu on my girlfriend's PC (yes, girlfriend, deal with it). It works wonderfully
[06:01] <Random_Transit> i just used update-manager to upgrade to edgy....but it stopped part way between
[06:01] <normmac> wow just awesome
[06:01] <dennister> yes, xubuntu is a possibility...i like kubuntu myself, but that would take even more hardware than ubuntu
[06:01] <Random_Transit> and now i have a broken package that i can't get rid of
[06:01] <h3xis> normmac, a suggestion would be to run sudo apt-get update
[06:01] <Random_Transit> can anyone help???
[06:01] <Hazuki> Random_Transit, the upgrade from drake to edgy is a nightmare
[06:01] <h3xis> normmac, and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:01] <Hazuki> you'd be best off reinstalling
[06:01] <xtknight> dapper->edgy worked flawless for me but i had a clean install
[06:01] <Random_Transit> hazuki....thanks, but can you help me with this??
[06:02] <mitrovarr> I'm having some issues with aiglx/beryl.  Specifically, it freezes up when I try to run it.  Any ideas?
[06:02] <Hazuki> Random_Transit, I'm actually a Gentoo specialist so I've never done the dapper -> edgy upgrade
[06:02] <normmac> h3xis ok i did
[06:02] <Hazuki> but having as close to a clean install as possible is a good idea
[06:02] <h3xis> normmac, cool
[06:02] <Asc> DSL seems pretty reasonable if you need something really light.  It's even Debian based - there's an option in the menu to install synaptic and everything.
[06:02] <Hazuki> if you have a separate /home partition just nuke the rest of the drive with the installer
[06:02] <normmac> is there support for ati mobility radeon 9600
[06:02] <Random_Transit> hazuki, not for me it isn't
[06:02] <Random_Transit> i don't feel like reinstalling all my apps
[06:02] <dennister> isn't that neat tho? 2000 complete PC's (with monitor and 6 mths internet connectivity, etc.) running a variant of ubuntu...for less than $100-$150, for low-income people,
[06:02] <h3xis> normmac, yeah but i dont know anything about it :/
[06:02] <h3xis> !ati | normmac
[06:02] <ubotu> normmac: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:02] <mitrovarr> yes, that's really cool.
[06:03] <normmac> thanks
[06:03] <Random_Transit> so can anyone here help me??
[06:03] <mitrovarr> dennister:  How are you doing the internet?  do they all have linux-capable modems, or you doing some sort of broadband?
[06:03] <Hazuki> Random_Transit, did you set up /home on a separate partition?
[06:03] <Random_Transit> hazuki, yes, but i want to avoid a clean install
[06:04] <eitan> xtknight: okay, finished...rebooting, which me luck
[06:04] <dennister> the city of Toronto gave these pc's to the Toronto FreeNet, so there's dialup to dsl modes available from the FreeNET
[06:04] <xtknight> eitan: good luck and have fun
[06:04] <Random_Transit> i know that sounds strange, but that's just how i'm doing things
[06:04] <Hazuki> Random_Transit, I'm not sure since I'm not an Ubuntu specialist, but at least you won't lose all your home files and settings if you have to clean install; just don't nuke /home
[06:04] <mitrovarr> dennister:  Yes, but if you haven't checked out the hardware, odds are a lot of the modems are winmodems that are not usable.
[06:04] <Random_Transit> i know that Hazuki
[06:05] <Random_Transit> so can anyone here help??
[06:05] <Hazuki> Random_Transit, have you tried the forums?
[06:05] <dennister> that's after all, what the FreeNET is: a publicly funded ISP/charity
[06:05] <nomasteryoda> Random_Transit, i would backup your /home, then do clean install .. .really would make much more sense.. i've experienced your pain and learned
[06:05] <xtknight> this is really pushing me over the edge.
[06:05] <Random_Transit> nomasteryoda, it's just a broken package
[06:05] <xtknight> accompanied by random freezes, any ideas?  [ 7372.794222]  hdf: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01). Trying to recover by ending request.
[06:05] <dennister> yes, we'll definitely be checking out the hardware, of course...they're still on skids
[06:05] <nomasteryoda> ok
[06:05] <nomasteryoda> well, Random_Transit then in that case, dpkg-reconfigure 'packagename"
[06:05] <mitrovarr> dennister:  Ah, that's good.  Maybe the ones without modems can be used to set up computing centers or used with libraries.
[06:05] <Random_Transit> nomasteryoda, ok
[06:06] <nomasteryoda> but there are more commands to fix broken install
[06:06] <Random_Transit> nah, the install seems to have gone fine so far
[06:06] <mitrovarr> So, anyone have any idea how to fix an aiglx/beryl install that freezes up whenever I try to run that window manager?
[06:06] <dennister> since they came from the city government's offices, I'm sure they all have nics
[06:06] <dennister> and probably modems
[06:06] <Hazuki> mitrovarr, you may need to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[06:06] <[shroom] > There are PIII systems with CRT monitor for $100 or less on at least the Vancouver Craig's List.
[06:07] <nomasteryoda> [shroom] , nice
[06:07] <mitrovarr> Hazuki:  I already edited it per http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AIGLX
[06:07] <nomasteryoda> those are good enough
[06:07] <nomasteryoda> mitrovarr, what card?
[06:07] <xtknight> how do i permanently remove a module from the kernel? ide_cd keeps coming back and my jmicron controller is giving me hell so im trying to remove it for now to avoid freezes.  i put it in blacklist_pata, worked first time but now its coming back again.
[06:07] <Random_Transit> nomasteryoda, the offending package wasn't fixed through dpkg
[06:07] <Hazuki> mitrovarr, not sure what you can do then...try updating to the latest driver version, the 9xxx series?
[06:07] <mitrovarr> nomasteryoda:  nvidia 8800gts
[06:07] <nomasteryoda> ah
[06:07] <nomasteryoda> Random_Transit, what package?
[06:07] <mitrovarr> Hazuki:  drivers are the absolute newest, installed from the nvidia website package.
[06:07] <dennister> remember, back when PII's and PIII's were common, broadband hardly existed...all dialups
[06:08] <Random_Transit> nomasteryoda, courier-authdaemon
[06:08] <Hazuki> mitrovarr, I don't know what to do then...try starting the X server from the commandline with a debug option
[06:08] <mitrovarr> dennister:  You were lucky to get all those nics, then, although good nics are cheaper than good modems.
[06:08] <nomasteryoda> well, what happens with apt-get install courier-authdaemon ?
[06:08] <Random_Transit> nomasteryoda, i've tried doing an apt-get install -f and other methods...and they all freak out
[06:08] <dennister> we'll see once we open the skids...or via the manifest
[06:08] <[shroom] > xtknight: delete the module. :)
[06:08] <Hazuki> kill gdm for good, put the line exec dbus-launch gnome-session in /home/(you)/.xinitrc, and type startx from the command prompt
[06:08] <mitrovarr> Hazuki:  How would I do that, exactly?
[06:09] <xtknight> [shroom] : actually that doesnt sound so bad now lol.  ill just move it
[06:09] <mitrovarr> Hazuki:  thanks, said that before I saw your message
[06:09] <fotoflo_> hey ive got a question about vnc
[06:09] <VMT2007> How do I get Firefox 2.0.0.1 to look right in KDE?
[06:09] <Hazuki> mitrovarr, no problem ^^
[06:09] <nomasteryoda> apt-get remove?
[06:09] <fotoflo_> ive got it working
[06:09] <dennister> now I'm just wondering why I can't get dapper to load on THIS PII...:(
[06:09] <Random_Transit> nomasteryoda, tried that too
[06:09] <nomasteryoda> k
[06:09] <h3xis> dennister, why dapper?
[06:09] <Hazuki> dennister, go with Xubuntu. You can install Gnome later if you want
[06:09] <nomasteryoda> just sec
[06:09] <fotoflo_> but im controlling the screen of the user logged in on the destkop
[06:09] <mitrovarr> Hazuki:  unfortunately killing KDM on this machine causes it to freeze up completely
[06:09] <Random_Transit> nomasteryoda, can i PM you, so as to get away from the crowd?
[06:09] <fotoflo_> can i set it up to log in a new user ?
[06:09] <dennister> cause i can't find breezy anywhere
[06:09] <bimberi> dennister: what specs (RAM in particular)?
[06:09] <Hazuki> mitrovarr, that sounds like something more serious than an xgl/aiglx problem
[06:09] <levander> Okay, when I put a DVD movie in the drive and totem is opened automatically, the DVD plays fine.  However, if after the DVD is already in the drive, I start Totem and choose from the menus Movie -> Play Movie, I get the error: "Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it."  Anybody know how to play Totem movies after the DVD is already in the drive?
[06:10] <dennister> 256 MB ram, 20G hdd, asus mb. cdrom, floppy
[06:10] <spike723> anyone know how to get a program so it can use the root window?  I'm using 6.10
[06:10] <Hazuki> ugh, brb
[06:10] <mitrovarr> Hazuki:  It does have a bit of bugginess.  I had to do a manual install of the new drivers from nvidia the minute I installed kubuntu just to run X.
[06:10] <basis> anyone gotten a ppc mac w/ bluetooth keyboard to work?
[06:11] <dennister> it just hangs at step 2: loading root filesystems
[06:11] <bimberi> dennister: hm, looks ok
[06:11] <family> hey, how do I make a different user than the initial one ALSO have root sudo powers?  I want to have both my personal account and the family one install applications
[06:11] <nomasteryoda> Random_Transit, look at this thread about half-way down... https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/courier-authlib/+bug/64615
[06:11] <nicholaspaul> Is there a good reason why ORAGE, a kde app, won't work in Gnome?
[06:11] <nomasteryoda> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/courier-authlib/+bug/64615/comments/5
[06:11] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  Maybe you don't have the kde libraries?
[06:11] <dennister> i'll try xubuntu
[06:11] <bimberi> dennister: try the alternate CD
[06:11] <levander> family: There's some group you have to add the user to I believe.  The groups name will be in the /etc/sudoers file.
[06:11] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr: do i synaptic for 'kde lib' ?
[06:11] <Random_Transit> nomasteryoda, i'm going to PM you the error i get from apt-get, ok?
[06:11] <nomasteryoda> k
[06:11] <dennister> ok...will try that, too :)...these kids need a pc, goddangit!
[06:11] <bimberi> family: sudo adduser <user> admin
[06:12] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  Well, if you did a synaptic/apt install of the application, it should have had them as dependancies and installed them automatically.
[06:12] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  However, perhaps it missed one, or something along those lines.
[06:12] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr:  yea i did do that.
[06:12] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr:  should it run by typing 'orage' from terminal?
[06:12] <dennister> hell, w2k will run on it, no probs...did with only 64 mb ram, but I don't want to give them winblows...
[06:12] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  Good idea, that way, you can see if the program throws up any complaints.
[06:13] <tonyKUN> what folder does the "wget" command place the files in?
[06:13] <bimberi> tonyKUN: whereever you run it
[06:13] <tonyKUN> terminal
[06:13] <levander> tonyKUN: current working directory, can be overridden with -o option
[06:13] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr:  when i do that it says "** (orage:2322): WARNING **: Orage xfical_add_timezone: no location defined
[06:13] <nicholaspaul> ** Message: Orage build alarm list: Processed 0 events. Found 0 alarms of which 0 are active. (Searched 0 recurring alarms.)
[06:13] <tonyKUN> what about default?
[06:13] <tonyKUN> and what irc clients do you guys use?
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> xchat
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> the real one
[06:14] <theflyingfool> are there any good reasons for me to leave ipv6 enabled, i dont think i actully use it
[06:14] <bimberi> tonyKUN: the default is the directory you run the command in (type 'pwd' to see that)
[06:14] <bimberi> theflyingfool: not really ...
[06:14] <bimberi> !ipv6 | theflyingfool
[06:14] <ubotu> theflyingfool: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[06:14] <normmac> what the best solution for using my ipod with ubuntu edgy
[06:14] <tonyKUN> how do you do the [name] : thing?
[06:14] <bimberi> !ipod | normmac
[06:14] <ubotu> normmac: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[06:15] <kaoz> can anyone help me with some wine questions?
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> just use amarok
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> it works well
[06:15] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  Unless I'm mistaken, isn't Orage for XFCE, not KDE?
[06:15] <kaoz> i have wine installed and i need to install the x11 drivers
[06:15] <flaco> hi all.. there is someone expert in networks ?
[06:15] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr: oh darn .yea you're right... oopsy!
[06:15] <bimberi> tonyKUN: type bim<TAB>
[06:15] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr:  so, xfce libs are missing?
[06:15] <[shroom] > tonyKUN: irssi.
[06:15] <kaoz> not quite sure what all i need to install with dapper though
[06:16] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  I just looked it up.  That changes which libraries you need, and makes it a little iffier in terms of running; I know gnome/kde have great compatibility but xfce?  I have no idea.
[06:16] <tonyKUN> AHH! thanks
[06:16] <bimberi> flaco: just ask
[06:16] <tonyKUN> bimberi, thanks =D
[06:16] <bimberi> tonyKUN: :)
[06:16] <fotoflo_> hey does anyone know how to setup vnc so it logs into its own session, rather then hijacking the current desktop session?
[06:16] <flaco> there is a special hardware to create a VPN network?
[06:16] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  Are you sure it's not running?  If it's a calandar for XFCE, it might tie into the XFCE desktop, which means it might run in other windows managers but not show up at all on the screen.
[06:16] <tonyKUN> anyone know how i install codecs?
[06:17] <bimberi> fotoflo_: install a vnc server (vncserver, vnc4server or tightvncserver)
[06:17] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr: i see. I'm running gnome so praps thats the problem. well, i'll just try to find another calendar.
[06:17] <bimberi> !codecs | tonyKUN
[06:17] <ubotu> tonyKUN: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:17] <nomasteryoda> fotoflo_, something like vncviewer ... 5100:1 or some such
[06:17] <tonyKUN> thanks
[06:17] <fotoflo_> bimberi, is that different from vino?
[06:17] <Elazar> I'm running Edgy in VMware Player and I'm having trouble getting networking to work. ifconfig output (http://bluelyte.sytes.net/screenshot.png) seems right, but I can't get a ping response from machines inside or outside the LAN. Connection works fine on the Windows installation running VMware Player, though. Suggestions?
[06:18] <bimberi> fotoflo_: yes, vino only works for the existing desktop session
[06:18] <xtknight> fotoflo_: vino specifically hijacks your current session
[06:18] <fotoflo_> oh ok
[06:18] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr:  thx for the help :)
[06:18] <_3uG_> does anyone know to fix packages that have errors in the post-installation script (thus preventing the installation of other packages)? it's really annoying
[06:18] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  I hope it was competant.  I don't know for sure that you couldn't use orage, but finding one for your windows manager is probably a better idea, or a cross-manager one.
[06:18] <xtknight> _3uG_: i believe you can tell dpkg to ignore post install scripts
[06:19] <fotoflo_> cook thanks guys
[06:19] <_3uG_> xtknight, i'll have to see what i can do.. thanks
[06:19] <fotoflo_> do i have to turn one off to use the other?
[06:19] <xtknight> _3uG_: other than that youll have to extract the package and fix them yourself.  were these converted with alien or something?
[06:19] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr: that makes sense. Well, i'll go off and see what i can find. Thx again mate.
[06:19] <_3uG_> nope, official ubuntu ttf-opensymbol package
[06:20] <xtknight> _3uG_: hmm that's odd.  Edgy?
[06:20] <_3uG_> xtknight, yup
[06:20] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  I think the outlook-replacement evolution has a good reputation, but I haven't used it myself.  You might want to try it.
[06:20] <_3uG_> xtknight, apparently a lot of other people have had a similar problem
[06:20] <xtknight> _3uG_: i have it installed now (i guess by stock).  did you have to reinstall iT?
[06:20] <bimberi> fotoflo_: no, they use different ports.  vino uses 5900, *vnc*server uses 5901, 5902 ...
[06:20] <mitrovarr> So, anyone else have the issue where if they restart KDM (or GDM) it freezes up?  Any idea what causes that?
[06:20] <_3uG_> xtknight, it was updated the other day through the ubuntu-update thing
[06:20] <fotoflo_> cool
[06:22] <_3uG_> xtknight, i can't seem to find the dpkg switch that ignores scripts
[06:22] <xtknight> _3uG_: maybe i was dreaming
[06:23] <_3uG_> xtknight, it seems like there should be something.. reading the man file now
[06:23] <Clinton__> is there any way to run apps when the X considers itself "idle" ?
[06:25] <fotoflo_> bimberi: after i install a package (aka tightvncserver) how do i find out where it is?
[06:25] <Clinton__> fotoflo_: dpkg -L tightvncserver
[06:25] <evil_> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu, I'm on the live disc right now. I selected "resize partition and use freed space", but the installation gets "stuck" when I click forward
[06:25] <mitrovarr> could my aiglx/beryl problems be due to running 64 bit?
[06:26] <fotoflo_> Clinton__,  thanks
[06:26] <bimberi> fotoflo_: yep, dpkg -L, or there is a file list in the package properties in synaptic
[06:26] <spike723> ls -arlt
[06:27] <huck> I'm trying to setup xdmcp to use from a 1386 laptop to my 64bit ubuntu desktop... i'm getting a black screen with an X when I try to run it from the laptop... will it not work?
[06:27] <evil_> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu, I'm on the live disc right now. I selected "resize partition and use freed space", but the installation gets "stuck" when I click forward
[06:28] <n2diy_> evil_: how much ram do you have?
[06:28] <evil_> 512
[06:28] <spike723> anyone know how to get compiz going in 6.10?
[06:29] <n2diy_> evil_: that's good, laptop or desktop?
[06:29] <Tigerwraith> can someone help me to get apt to find proftpd
[06:29] <evil_> n2diy: desktop
[06:29] <red> evil_ what kind of pc do you have
[06:29] <jbroome> !info proftpd
[06:29] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[06:29] <drano> spike723: good luck
[06:29] <_3uG_> spike723, i believe that automatix bleeder (getautomatix.com) may install compiz
[06:29] <n2diy_> evil_: name brand or generic?
[06:29] <ireneshusban1> Is there an up-to-date and comprehensive list of linux-supported webcams? What I've found is incomplete, out-of-date, or just plain confusing.
[06:29] <erisco> aside from totem... what other video players are there?
[06:29] <Tigerwraith> when i apt-get install proftpd it cant find it
[06:29] <spike723> how about getting a program to use the root window?
[06:29] <evil_> n2diy: its a Dell
[06:29] <red> evil_ what kind of pc do you have?
[06:30] <jbroome> you enable the universe repo Tigerwraith ?
[06:30] <fotoflo_> bimberi: cool i got it working
[06:30] <red> evil_ dell 1501?
[06:30] <huck> Tigerwraith: do you have the repositories listed in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:30] <evil_> dell Dim. e310
[06:30] <Tigerwraith> hugh@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install proftpd
[06:30] <Tigerwraith> Reading package lists... Done
[06:30] <Tigerwraith> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:30] <Tigerwraith> E: Couldn't find package proftpd
[06:30] <Tigerwraith> hugh@ubuntu:~$
[06:30] <red> evil_ i had the same problem with my dell 1501
[06:30] <Mir> hello all
[06:30] <bimberi> fotoflo_: great :)
[06:30] <evil_> red: How did you go about fixing it?
[06:31] <levander> Has anyone seen this on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs - "You can enable playback of encrypted DVDs with MPlayer, xine and Totem-xine by installing libdvdcss2. Note that Totem-gstreamer can only play a DVD automatically when it is inserted into the DVD drive, but cannot navigate the DVD nor play it by selecting Movie -> Play Disc 'DVD Name' or otherwise. "
[06:31] <Mir> i need some help
[06:31] <jbroome> !repos | Tigerwraith
[06:31] <ubotu> Tigerwraith: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:31] <levander> Why wouldn't you be able to navigate to play the movie?
[06:31] <fotoflo_> bimberi, err but its a blank x terminal without a regular terminal or an ubuntu desktop
[06:31] <fotoflo_> ughh
[06:31] <red> check the forums i have a thread there added pci=nomsi to boot param
[06:31] <Mir> can anyone tell me how to write to the dircetory usr/local/
[06:31] <Clinton__> is there any way to run apps when X considers itself "idle" ?
[06:32] <Mir> by draggin and dropping
[06:32] <levander> Mir: you probably need root permission
[06:32] <red> evil_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299929
[06:32] <Tigerwraith> ok thats not telling me why it cant find proftpd
[06:32] <huck> anyone here good with remote desktop? XDMCP specifically?
[06:32] <_3uG_> Mir, run gksudo nautilus
[06:32] <Mir> so do i have to login as root?
[06:32] <Tigerwraith> do i have to change the source.list
[06:32] <huck> Tigerwraith: probably
[06:32] <ireneshusban1> Mir, you can operate as root by typing "sudo su" at the command prompt
[06:32] <bimberi> fotoflo_: ugh indeed.  That means that it isn't starting things up when the vnc session starts.
[06:32] <Jordan_U> Mir: But be sure to close the window when you are done
[06:32] <Tigerwraith> hmm ok where is source.list in ubuntu
[06:33] <huck> Tigerwraith: you will need to add the deb to your sources list so it knows where to look to find the package
[06:33] <n2diy_> Clinton__: what do you mean by X being idle?
[06:33] <ireneshusban1> There are other ways as well
[06:33] <Tigerwraith> i didnt find it in /etc/init.d
[06:33] <_3uG_> Tigerwraith, /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:33] <huck> Tigerwraith: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:33] <Tigerwraith> ahh ok thanks
[06:33] <huck> _3uG_: your quick
[06:33] <fotoflo_> bimberi: any suggestions?
[06:33] <Mir> o ok thanks
[06:33] <jbroome> Tigerwraith: are you listening to us at all.  enable the universe repo
[06:33] <fotoflo_> bimberi, maybe ill just stick to vino
[06:33] <_3uG_> huck, nice echo =-)
[06:33] <bimberi> fotoflo_: I'm not sure although I can say that the vncserver package seemed to work straight away for me (in Dapper)
[06:33] <levander> Mir: you need to do some reading  if you don't know what sudo is: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[06:33] <huck> :D
[06:33] <Mir> can i drag and drop now?
[06:33] <ireneshusban1> Mir, type "exit" when you are finished
[06:33] <_3uG_> huck, i've had to type that path a million times.....
[06:33] <Tigerwraith> jbroome enable what?
[06:34] <fotoflo_> k
[06:34] <huck> Tigerwraith: type: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and you'll see what we're talking about
[06:34] <bimberi> fotoflo_: otherwise it's digging into the tightvncserver config, which I don't know much about sorry
[06:34] <Tigerwraith> ok
[06:34] <Clinton__> n2diy: when X has not been used for 15 minutes, and wants to start the screensaver, I'd like to run some apps, and then kill them when X becomes un-idle
[06:35] <fotoflo_> bimberi, could it because i've already got a vino session open?
[06:35] <fotoflo_> s/it because/it be because/
[06:35] <Tigerwraith> sorry ive been trying to get ubuntu to work all day and i finally got it working just got frustrated when it wouldnt install
[06:35] <Mir> i am trying to install the latest JRE
[06:35] <Mir> jre 1.6
[06:35] <n2diy_> Clinton__: I have no idea how to do something like that.
[06:35] <huck> Tigerwraith: n/p... there's a learning curve
[06:35] <_3uG_> argh i love the debian package system, but i HATE when it breaks
[06:35] <Clinton__> n2diy_: neither does google...
[06:35] <Jordan_U> Mir: Why do you need to move files then?
[06:35] <bimberi> fotoflo_: i wouldn't think so, but give that a try (disable via Sys -> Prefs -> Remote Desktop)
[06:36] <Clinton__> n2diy: xautolock seems to have promise, but not quite what I'm looking for..
[06:36] <fotoflo_> no go
[06:36] <ireneshusban1> Anyone know about webcams? Is there are popular budget-priced webcam on the market that works well with Linux?
[06:36] <n2diy> Clinton__: The Seti At Home project does stuff like that, maybe you can get ideas from them?
[06:36] <fotoflo_> bimberi, but it appears to be defaulting to desktop 1 instead of 0
[06:37] <Tigerwraith> aye huck there is, but ive been using debian now for a coupel of years, its why i went with ubuntu cause its debian based
[06:37] <bimberi> fotoflo_: what is? vino?
[06:37] <Mir> in sun website
[06:37] <Clinton__> n2diy: they check load values and cpu percentage (I already checked them)
[06:37] <Mir> they says if i wanna install the jre system wide
[06:37] <Tigerwraith> just i found out today that my AMD K6-3 is why alot of distros besides debian sarge woudlnt work for me
[06:37] <Mir> than i have to install it in usr/local
[06:37] <fotoflo_> no tightvncserver
[06:37] <IdleOne> just completed upgrade to edgy. seemed to go well, machine restarted and I saw the ubuntu splash screen then heard the drums and now I have a black screen. what do I do now?
[06:38] <Jordan_U> !webcam | ireneshusban1
[06:38] <ubotu> ireneshusban1: webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:38] <fotoflo_> bimberi, no tightvncserver
[06:38] <bimberi> fotoflo_: yes, that's normal
[06:38] <huck> Tigerwraith: oh... well welcome to the club!
[06:38] <huck> :D
[06:38] <Tigerwraith> ok just the universe debs or backports as well
[06:38] <n2diy> Clinton__: Good luck, maybe there is an X programmers channel?
[06:38] <ireneshusban1> Ubotu, thanks I'll check it out
[06:38] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: Completely black or with text on it?
[06:38] <Clinton__> n2diy: not a bad idea, I can always try
[06:38] <jbroome> Tigerwraith: universe to get proftpd
[06:39] <Tigerwraith> yep i put togeather a P3 550 and now ubuntu is working
[06:39] <IdleOne> Jordan_U all black
[06:39] <huck> Tigerwraith: I enabled all of mine... just to have them. you never know.
[06:39] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: What happens when you try to switch to a tty ( ctrl+alt+F1 ) ?
[06:39] <huck> Tigerwraith: but that might enable the upgrades of unstable packages... not sure
[06:39] <IdleOne> Jordan_U lemme try
[06:40] <IdleOne> Jordan_U get a shell prompt
[06:40] <Tigerwraith> dont want to do that, did that and it broke my debian sarge today
[06:40] <huck> Tigerwraith: do what jbroome said then... just the universe
[06:40] <huck> i gotta run... good luck with that!
[06:40] <ireneshusban1> Jordan_U, thanks
[06:41] <pokesmot> Question:  How do i get rid of all the ugly brown bootup, startup and splash screens?
[06:41] <bimberi> !tell pokesmot about usplash
[06:41] <bimberi> !tell pokesmot about splash
[06:42] <n2diy> ! splash
[06:42] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image using !gconf-editor
[06:42] <Tigerwraith> sorry jbroome that link you gave me at first sent me to how to inable services using GUI and im not using a GUI this is just a at home webserver
[06:42] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: Good, try running: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup && sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh ( after logging in of course )
[06:42] <pokesmot> thanks bimberi
[06:43] <fotoflo_> bimberi, well how do i get a terminal or a menu or something?
[06:43] <n2diy> pokesmot: your welcome. :)
[06:43] <Jordan_U> !sh | fotoflo_
[06:43] <ubotu> fotoflo_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:43] <bimberi> fotoflo_: does right-click work
[06:43] <bimberi> ?
[06:44] <pokesmot> thanks n2diy
[06:44] <Tigerwraith> ok why is it asking me to put in a CD
[06:44] <Tigerwraith> shouldnt it be getting the package from the web?
[06:44] <n2diy> pokesmot: nada.
[06:44] <bimberi> Tigerwraith: if the CD repository is still enabled it will be preferred, to save you bandwidth
[06:44] <Jordan_U> Tigerwraith: You probably need to take your CD out as a source in your sources.list
[06:44] <Tigerwraith> ok will do
[06:45] <Mir> hi guys i need some help
[06:45] <Mir> how should i install the the jre 1.6??
[06:46] <nethurd> what module does ubutu use for the new MAC framebuffer fonts and resolutions?
[06:47] <Gruppy> whats the ubu equivalent of windows update?
[06:47] <IdleOne> Jordan_U ok done
[06:47] <Jordan_U> Gruppy: Update-manager
[06:47] <MTecknology> I'm having trouble with Gaim - http://www.geocities.com/mtecknology/Untitled.png - I'm trying to use Gaim Beta 5, only MSN accounts won't work.
[06:47] <bimberi> Gruppy: update-manager
[06:48] <bassinboy> does the livecd have memtest86?
[06:48] <Jordan_U> Gruppy: Or sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:48] <IdleOne> yes
[06:48] <n2diy> bassinboy: yes.
[06:48] <Gruppy> thx
[06:48] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: now try: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[06:49] <lanxu> Firefox 2.0.0.1 update broke support for themes in package firefox-themes-ubuntu?
[06:49] <bassinboy> n2diy: didn't see it in any options, how can i boot to it?
[06:49] <IdleOne> Jordan_U with the ? or gdm?
[06:50] <n2diy> bassinboy: it should be an option from the boot prompt, maybe hit escape to get to it?
[06:50] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: Either one, since ? means wildcard in a regular expression either will work ( and with ? it works for KDE users also :)
[06:50] <n2diy> bassinboy: what version are you trying to boot with?
[06:50] <IdleOne> Jordan_U ok trying
[06:50] <Gruppy> how do you remote desktop onto a ubu box from an XP desktop?
[06:51] <linuxgoober> Gruppy install vncserver
[06:52] <Gruppy> k
[06:52] <levander> Is a DVD title does say on the box, is it usually wide-screen or full-screen?
[06:52] <linuxgoober> will need to install vncsoftware on the xp machine than not sure what i installed on dads computer
[06:52] <IdleOne> Jordan_U is this a permanent fix or will I need to this next time a boot up? and btw thanks dude it looks great :)
[06:53] <Gruppy> vncserver requires a client to installed on XP box tho?
[06:53] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: That is a permanent fix :)
[06:53] <IdleOne> :)
[06:53] <bassinboy> n2diy: 5.04
[06:53] <IdleOne> Ubuntu Edgy Love Jordan_U be back in a minute
[06:55] <n2diy> bassinboy: ok, I've only played with 5.10, and 6.06. Both of which has memtest86.
[06:55] <MTecknology> I'm having trouble with Gaim - http://www.geocities.com/mtecknology/Untitled.png - I'm trying to use Gaim Beta 5, only MSN accounts won't work.
[06:55] <lasindi> Hi all, if you have a .deb package, is there a way to get it to install and install all of its dependencies automatically? According to dpkg's man page, there's no way to get it working ...
[06:55] <n2diy> bassinboy: They do have there own website, where you can DL it.
[06:56] <h3xis> MTecknology, you need ssl
[06:56] <Jordan_U> lasindi: It should do that by default if the dependencies are available in the repos.
[06:56] <MTecknology> h3xis, I have ssl libraries installed
[06:56] <h3xis> MTecknology, then that's why it's beta ;P
[06:56] <MTecknology> h3xis, is it something I need to specify when I 'make' it?
[06:56] <h3xis> not that i know of
[06:57] <MTecknology> well, i installed then installed more ssl packages
[06:57] <MTecknology> I'll try to rebuild it
[06:58] <aN1> supernoob question how to u make the terminal background black with white words?
[06:58] <Jordan_U> MTecknology: Did you apt-get build-dep it?
[06:58] <cmt^^> Can anyone help me with a script to automatically unpack any .rar-files from a directory with multiple subdir's containing rar-archives?
[06:58] <idleone> Jordan_U: again thanks for the help :)
[06:58] <MTecknology> Jordan_U, no
[06:59] <MTecknology> Jordan_U, i dloaded the tarball and ./configue make checkinstall
[06:59] <Jordan_U> MTecknology: I would try that to be sure you have everything
[06:59] <MTecknology> Jordan_U, how do I do that?
[06:59] <Falstius> cmt^^: find . -name '*.rar' -exec unrar e \{} \;
[06:59] <Jordan_U> MTecknology: sudo apt-get build-dep gaim
[07:00] <Jordan_U> MTecknology: It will get all of the build dependencies for the newest version in the repos which is likely the same as those for the beta
[07:00] <cmt^^> Falstius - so where do I put that to be able to run it at any time, in a .sh-file?
[07:01] <Gruppy> ok,  ETH0 on DHCP picks up the right DNS server address, but only has an ip6 address    (ip4 lan)    ??
[07:01] <MTecknology> Jordan_U, so do that, then rebuild the beta?
[07:01] <Jordan_U> MTecknology: Yes
[07:01] <Tigerwraith> errrr proftpd is going to give me a headache
[07:01] <Falstius> cmt^^: you could just type it in ... replace '.' with the base directory you want to unrar files in.
[07:01] <Gruppy> Where do you set IP4 vs IP6?
[07:01] <MTecknology> Jordan_U, thanks
[07:01] <Jordan_U> MTecknology: np :)
[07:02] <cmt^^> Well yeah, but what if I want a bash command to do that at any time, without having to remember that particular line
[07:02] <lasindi> Jordan_U: oh, ok, then I have an issue with install python-gtk2; I'm trying this on the server version. Is there a reason why this isn't possible to install on the server version?
[07:02] <Falstius> cmt^^: if you want to make it a script, just put this in a .sh file in your path (/usr/local/bin or ~/bin if you've added that): find $1 -name '*.rar' -exec unrar e \{} \;
[07:02] <cmt^^> thank you
[07:03] <Tigerwraith> anyone ever seen this after installing proftpd
[07:03] <Tigerwraith> root@ubuntu:/etc# proftpd
[07:03] <Tigerwraith> ubuntu - fatal: Socket operation on non-socket
[07:03] <Tigerwraith> ubuntu - (Running from command line? Use `ServerType standalone' in config file!)
[07:03] <Jordan_U> lasindi: What exactly happens when you try to install it?
[07:03] <Falstius> cmt^^: but really, you should learn to use find -exec, it is useful in many many many situations.
[07:04] <Falstius> cmt^^: oh, and don't forget to make the file executable (chmod a+x filename)
[07:04] <munjay> hai......
[07:04] <Madpilot> anyone else getting incredibly slow downloads from the main Ubuntu repos right now? I'm down to 22Kb/s...
[07:04] <lasindi> Jordan_U: I get a whole bunch of errors like "Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.10.3) but it is not going to be installed"
[07:05] <lasindi> There are a lot more like that with different packages.
[07:05] <aN1> question how do I make the terminal (in gui) background black with white words?
[07:05] <Jordan_U> lasindi: python-gtk2 is available in the Ubuntu repositories, why are you trying to install from a .deb file?
[07:06] <Jordan_U> aN1: Edit -> Profiles... _> Edit -> Colors
[07:06] <lasindi> Jordan_U: this is my own .deb that I've packaged, but even trying to get python-gtk2 using apt-get directly doesn't work.
[07:06] <n2diy> aN1: right click on the terminal window.
[07:07] <Jordan_U> lasindi: have you tried running sudo apt-get -f install ?
[07:07] <n2diy> aN1: and edit current profile.
[07:08] <jroes> anyone know where I can go for some help with ubuntu-ppc?
[07:08] <jroes> there are a bunch of issues I'm having with my powerbook g4
[07:08] <n2diy> ! ppc
[07:08] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[07:08] <lasindi> Jordan_U: Ah, it works now, thanks for the help
[07:08] <Gruppy> figured it out,  if virtual server has the nic disabled, then ubu will used a cached ip4 DNS value and makeup an ip6 host addresss
[07:09] <jroes> n2diy: guess you were hoping for a ppc support chan in there? :)
[07:09] <Paragawadhiya> i cant login to my ubuntu system
[07:09] <Paragawadhiya> but i can login as root
[07:09] <linuxgoober> authentication problem?
[07:09] <Paragawadhiya> I tried recovery mode
[07:09] <n2diy> jroes: roger on that.
[07:09] <Paragawadhiya> nono
[07:09] <levander> Why when I play widescreen movies on my widescreen monitor does it not fill up the whole screen?
[07:09] <Paragawadhiya> if it was so,it gives msg invalid usr name pass.
[07:10] <fotoflo_> here is the ultimate question:  how do you sudo in life?
[07:10] <aN1> sorri i was asking how to make the terminal black backgroung with white words any ideas? i asked before but i got disconnected
[07:10] <cmt^^> I just created a bash-script and put in /usr/bin/ but I can't run it.. what to do?
[07:10] <Paragawadhiya> on recovery mode with root login startx command worked well
[07:10] <Jordan_U> jroes: I used to have a powerbook G4 running Ubuntu, what problems are you having?
[07:10] <fotoflo_> is that what the buddha did?
[07:10] <jroes> Jordan_U: well, I can't get my wireless to connect and the contrast and sound keys don't work :)
[07:10] <n2diy> aN1: right click on the terminal window, and edit current profile.
[07:10] <fotoflo_> is enlightenment like.... logging into life as root?
[07:11] <Paragawadhiya> but when i tried with my own user name and gave startx command it says user not allowed to use this command
[07:11] <blanky> GUYS!?!
[07:11] <aN1> n2diy and then?
[07:11] <MTecknology> Jordan_U, should I use make install, checkinstall, or somethign else?
[07:11] <Paragawadhiya> but its recovery mode
[07:11] <Paragawadhiya> 1
[07:11] <Paragawadhiya> all features dont work
[07:11] <blanky> My GNOME doesn't have the borders and stuff, I typed gtk-window-decorator --replace & but it didnt work, what's going on?!
[07:11] <n2diy> aN1: follow your instincts.
[07:11] <Paragawadhiya> though root login
[07:11] <linuxgoober> don't think recovery mode lets startx
[07:11] <blanky> please? :'(
[07:11] <Paragawadhiya> worked for root
[07:11] <Paragawadhiya> 1
[07:11] <Jordan_U> jroes: For wireless use fwcutter , for the others I don't know :( there is a PPC section on Ubuntu forums though, you might search / ask there
[07:11] <aN1> n2diy oh i need to turn beryl off?
[07:12] <Jordan_U> MTecknology: checkinstall
[07:12] <Paragawadhiya> can anyone help me?
[07:12] <blanky> nevermind... *sigh* I fixed it
[07:12] <n2diy> aN1: I don't know anything about beryl.
[07:12] <blanky> Paragawadhiya: what's the problem?
[07:12] <Valmarko> I would lik a little help from you. Some people say that KFE is better then GNOME (the one i'm using). What do you have to say about it?
[07:12] <Paragawadhiya> login problem
[07:12] <aN1> n2diy ok thx got it
[07:12] <aN1> sweet
[07:12] <Paragawadhiya> I cant login to my ubuntu system
[07:12] <blanky> Valmarko: it's KDE, and you can try it out yourself :) sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:12] <blanky> Paragawadhiya: can you please be more specific?
[07:13] <Jordan_U> Valmarko: It is all a matter of personal preference :)
[07:13] <Valmarko> blanky, shoudl I?
[07:13] <blanky> Valmarko: it's the only way you'll know if YOU like it
[07:13] <Paragawadhiya> I can login as root in recovery and use startx to get into GUI
[07:13] <blanky> becuase after all, like Jordan_U said, it is personal preference
[07:13] <Valmarko> tanks :)
[07:13] <Paragawadhiya> but startx aint working for my user name
[07:13] <blanky> Valmarko: it's a big package (meta-package), so it'll take a while to download!
[07:13] <Jordan_U> Valmarko: Wait a second though...
[07:13] <Valmarko> ok
[07:14] <blanky> Paragawadhiya: login as root? you activated the root acount?
[07:14] <elbeto> i don;t kow if you have this problem but checkgmail doesn't work
[07:14] <n2diy> tanks? Who called in the tanks? :)
[07:14] <elbeto> checkgmail doesn't work
[07:14] <elbeto> for me
[07:14] <Maz> hmm would anyone be able to help me?
[07:14] <Jordan_U> Valmarko: If you are using Dapper or below you should use aptitude install though so that it is easier to remove if you decide you don't like it
[07:14] <jroes> is bcm43xx-fwcutter what you're talking about, and how can I point it to my CD?
[07:14] <blanky> elbeto: Hmm...Sorry I Wouldn't know what to say
[07:14] <elbeto> thanks blanky
[07:15] <n2diy> Maz: not unless we know what your problem is?
[07:15] <MTecknology> Jordan_U, Is that error a problem? - I used checkinstall w/o sudo
[07:15] <MTecknology> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/318/
[07:15] <blanky> elbeto: Maybe you can try to google 'checkgmail'
[07:15] <Valmarko> Jordan_U, ok my friend :) tanks
[07:15] <Maz> Yeah its really kind of weird
[07:15] <Maz> i am running a mythtv box and have the ati drivers installed with 3d acceleration on my 9600 Pro
[07:15] <Maz> but there are small green lines across the screen
[07:15] <elbeto> No, I had a problem and I was forced to reinstall gnome and since then some thing don't work as supposed
[07:16] <Maz> anyone know what would be causing this?
[07:16] <blanky> elbeto: ah okay, did you install checkgmail AFTER you reinstalled gnome?
[07:16] <n2diy> Maz: I have no experience with mythtv.
[07:16] <Jordan_U> jroes: Yes, I mean bcm43xx-fwcutter, What I did was install using ethernet ( which should "just work" ).
[07:17] <Maz> its iin ubuntu to
[07:17] <Maz> at the login screen
[07:17] <jroes> I popped in my ethernet cable just now...  working on getting an IP
[07:17] <Jordan_U> MTecknology: You need to use either sudo or fakeroot I bleive.
[07:17] <elbeto> it was installed before and it worked fine, but after reinstalling gnome didn't work again. I've uninstalled ans reinstalled but it still not working
[07:17] <n2diy> Maz: diagonial green lines?
[07:17] <Tigerwraith> anyone here having trouble getting proftp to work
[07:17] <jroes> haha, that's great.  sudo dhclient -1 showed "failed to get attributes of /etc/resolv.conf: no such file or directory"
[07:17] <jroes> it got an IP, but still, that's interesting ;)
[07:18] <madman91> SSH------- How can I check if users can ssh into my computer ?
[07:18] <Maz> horizontal
[07:18] <Maz> the higher the res the smaller they are
[07:18] <madman91> SSH------- What port does ssh use?
[07:18] <Maz> and when i slap my ati rage in its perfect
[07:18] <Tigerwraith> is there another ftp program that i can use besides proftpd
[07:18] <Tigerwraith> ss
[07:18] <Tigerwraith> err 22 madman
[07:18] <Jordan_U> jroes: Do you already know how to use bcm43xx-fwcutter?
[07:18] <madman91> Tigerwraith: use gftp
[07:18] <elbeto> Ubuntu can be a pain in the ass sometimes
[07:18] <n2diy> Maz: lower left to upper right, or vice vesus?
[07:18] <MTecknology> Jordan_U, I jlove you buddy - it's working great now, thanks
[07:18] <Tigerwraith> yes im learning that
[07:18] <jroes> Jordan_U: nope, and for some reason it can't find the package... :/
[07:19] <Maz> n2diy: right to left
[07:19] <jarrod10> you can always go vista elbeto haha
[07:19] <jroes> I need to add extra repos
[07:19] <madman91> SSH------- How can I check if users can ssh into my computer ?... I want to check if ssh works on my computer ..
[07:19] <elbeto> No way Jarrod, I say i love it but sometimes it's painful
[07:19] <n2diy> Maz: I think your monitor needs servicing, I've seen that on regular TVs too.
[07:20] <spartas> madman, try ssh-ing into localhost from the same machiine you want to connect to
[07:20] <elbeto> checkgmail doesn't work
[07:20] <Tigerwraith> madman you can use PuTTY
[07:20] <Maz> n2diy: nope other ati card works perfectly
[07:20] <kaoz> can someone help me with some opengl drivers
[07:20] <n2diy> Maz: then use the other card?
[07:21] <kaoz> i dloaded the newest ati driver for my radeon 9550 on dapper
[07:21] <lasindi> Jordan_U: whoops, I understand what happened now: If I try "apt-get install python-gtk2", it works. If I try "dpkg -i onasow.deb" (onasow is the name of my app), it tells me about a dependency error, and then apt-get doesn't work anymore. I have to do "dpkg -r onasow" before apt-get will work again, and I'm back at square one.
[07:21] <kaoz> compiled the deb fir and the xorg files as the wiki described
[07:21] <Maz> n2diy: the other card does not have dvi out which i am wanting to use
[07:21] <elbeto> checkgmail doesn't work, any ideas why?
[07:21] <Jordan_U> jroes: I used this guied ( and this guides firmware ) to install and it worked http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[07:21] <Jordan_U> * guide
[07:22] <jroes> cool, thanks Jordan
[07:22] <kaoz> everything seemed to install just fine... rebooted and ran the fglrxinfo command and it is showing my card as a mesa
[07:22] <young_> Hi anybody has the problem with firefox after watching flash video?
[07:22] <elbeto> Nope
[07:22] <n2diy> Maz: ok, I don't know what more to suggest.
[07:22] <Maz> ok thanks anyways
[07:23] <Mazus> anyone had experiance with ati 9600 pro?
[07:23] <mitrovarr> alright, now I'm trying to run beryl through xgl, and I get 'Beryl caught deadly signal 11'.  Any ideas?
[07:23] <young_> my firefox always stuck after watching video in youtube
[07:23] <n2diy> Maz: maybe google on your video card and linux would turn up something useful?
[07:23] <young_> and no sound???
[07:23] <kaoz> is there a wine channel?
[07:23] <kaoz> or an ati channel?
[07:24] <Jordan_U> mitrovarr: First, are you sure that your card does not support AIGLX? ( if it does you shouldn't use XGL )
[07:24] <Valmarko> I still dont understand why some people say KDE is better then GNOME. Gnome is really nice and stable
[07:24] <keeganX> Does anyone know if it is possible to install Linux onto a non-modified REGULAR Xbox?
[07:24] <mitrovarr> Jordan_U:  Attempts to use AIGLX (and Nvidia) were even less successful, resulting in full system lockups.
[07:25] <Hatty> keeganX: there is an exploit in the original Mech assault (or some other mech game) which allows you to load executable data as saves
[07:25] <kaoz> i think suse has been installed..... however if u have a slayers evox cd there is a bios boot option to install linux on and xbox
[07:25] <keeganX> Hatty: So I am going to need mech assault to even try it?
[07:26] <Tigerwraith> is gftp a GUI ftp program
[07:26] <Hatty> keeganX: Yeah, and it has to be the original, not the newer one
[07:26] <keeganX> Dang it, I'm screwed then :(
[07:26] <Valmarko> I know. Graphics and personalization :) Just ge t gnome-art :) eh eh
[07:26] <Hatty> keeganX: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=94776
[07:26] <mitrovarr> Jordan_U:  video card is a 8800gts.
[07:26] <Valmarko> GNOME is that sh*t
[07:27] <Tigerwraith> any other ftps out there besides gftp and proftpd
[07:27] <Tigerwraith> for some reason after installing them my ftp client cant connect
[07:27] <jroes> sweet
[07:28] <strabes> hello all. I have a strange problem. I have it set to log me in automatically in system -> administration -> login window -> security.  On boot up gdm logs in perfectly, but if I try to log out and log in again, gdm freezes and just my mouse operates.
[07:28] <jroes> thanks Jordan_U, I've got wireless working now
[07:28] <strabes> restarting gdm does not fix it
[07:28] <strabes> only restarting the computer
[07:30] <kaoz> no one knows about setting up ati cards for opengl?
[07:30] <therealnanotube> Tigerwraith: gftp is a client, proftpd is a server... what exactly are you doing?
[07:30] <strabes> kaoz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Video
[07:31] <blanky> kaoz: what do you mean
[07:31] <kaoz> i dloaded the newest drivers and i am trying to get opengl setup
[07:31] <kaoz> kind of a newb so havin a problem
[07:32] <Tigerwraith> errr anyone here using ubuntu 6.06 as a server
[07:32] <strabes> kaoz: don't use the drivers from the ati site
[07:32] <kaoz> i read the wiki on ati cards and driver install... did exactly as it said
[07:32] <sean> kaoz: i won't even pretend to know what i'm talking about, or even have more than a vague idea of what openGL is, but i think there's an openGL thing in the add/remove software online database thingie... package manager is it called? (see, i dunno what i'm talking about)
[07:32] <spartas> tigerwraith, running it here
[07:32] <kaoz> so which should i use?
[07:32] <Tigerwraith> what ftp are you using spartas
[07:33] <therealnanotube> Tigerwraith: using it as desktop, but run an ssh serv on it ;)
[07:33] <Tigerwraith> i cant seem to get proftpd or gftp to work
[07:33] <Mazus> anyone using a 9600 with ubuntu?
[07:33] <Jordan_U> !ati | kaoz
[07:33] <ubotu> kaoz: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:33] <kaoz> i have a 9550 mazus
[07:33] <Mazus> kaoz can i pm you?
[07:33] <blanky> hey guys, i loaded up the updates manager and it's saying 'not all updates can be installed' and it's giving me an option to do a distribution upgrade. this wont upgrade me to feisty fawn right?
[07:33] <sean> kaoz: try looking in the add/remove programs thing for an openGL accelerator - i saw that when i was trying to install drivers last night, maybe that's what you're looking for...
[07:33] <kaoz> and i know it works because i had it working... then i crashed ubntu
[07:33] <blanky> ?
[07:33] <spartas> tiger, not using any ftp on the server, but i previously was using pro for serving ftp
[07:34] <curs0r> the liflg people are dead wood, anyone know what this could mean? /usr/local/bin/sof2sp: 25: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[07:34] <therealnanotube> Tigerwraith: i had proftpd running, and it was working, some time ago. but i turned it off since ssh was doing just fine for me, and is more secure...
[07:34] <kaoz> yes mazus
[07:34] <Tigerwraith> hmmm not sure how you can copy files through putty
[07:34] <kaoz> thanks sean
[07:34] <Mazus> koaz @ pm
[07:34] <therealnanotube> Tigerwraith: putty also comes with sftp
[07:34] <Jordan_U> blanky: I see no reason it would, but to be sure could you post your sources.list ?
[07:34] <Jordan_U> *pastebin
[07:34] <Tigerwraith> ubuntu - fatal: Socket operation on non-socket
[07:34] <Tigerwraith> ubuntu - (Running from command line? Use `ServerType standalone' in config file!)
[07:34] <therealnanotube> Tigerwraith: so does tho regular ssh client that comes with ubuntu
[07:35] <blanky> Jordan_U: oh, I understand, so only if I had feisty fawn sources right? no I don't, thanks Jordan_U
[07:35] <sean> kaoz: you're welcome to as much of my useless information as you want...
[07:35] <kaoz> yes mazus i am there
[07:35] <compaq> Hey guys, I am not new to Ubuntu, but I am working on switching my mom's PC over from Windoze. Can someone point me where to go to get 3d on a radeon 7200, as even google has not been helpful. I know this would not go here, but I know not who else to ask
[07:35] <kaoz> thanks sean
[07:36] <Mazus> did anyone get green horizontal lines across thier sceen with ati cards?
[07:36] <pokesmot> Q: Can anyone tell me how to view and change VGA color settings,?
[07:36] <cmt^^> How do I get this: "find $1 -name '*.rar' -exec rar e \{} \;
[07:36] <Jordan_U> blanky: I believe that update manager only upgrades between distros if the next distro is stable, if you want to be absolutely sure though run: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade because it never touches your sources.list
[07:36] <roscar> I recently added a new harddrive to my computer and it will no longer boot. I suspect this is grub's doing but I'm unsure how to resolve the situation. can anybody help?
[07:36] <cmt^^> to search in subdirs as well?
[07:36] <blanky> Jordan_U: cool, thanks
[07:37] <Jordan_U> blanky: I mean LTS, not stable
[07:37] <blanky> Jordan_U: thanks
[07:37] <roscar> I'm currently using the live cd to boot the machine. both harddrives appear in "places" so I don't think I broke them.
[07:38] <pokesmot> Q: If i wanted to change from 256 colors to 32K colors, how would i do that?
[07:38] <freeride> hello
[07:38] <blanky> Jordan_U: er, in this 'distribution upgrade' it's telling me it's going to 'remove compiz-freedesktop-gnome', thing is i dont want this removed, oh wait, i see that it's going to install compiz-gnome, could this be a replacement?
[07:38] <therealnanotube> cmt^^: hm, find should search subdirs recursively already... that's not happening for you?
[07:38] <blanky> nevermind I think they are replacements
[07:38] <pokesmot> Q: Can anyone tell me how to view and change VGA color settings,?
[07:38] <pokesmot> Q: If i wanted to change from 256 colors to 32K colors, how would i do that?
[07:39] <compaq> pokesmot, ATi or NVidia?
[07:39] <Jordan_U> blanky: probably, that is what dist-upgrade is for, allowing older packages to be removed if they have been replaced with a different package ( whereas plain upgrade never removes anything )
[07:39] <pokesmot> ati, i think
[07:39] <pokesmot> compaq, ati i believe
[07:40] <blanky> thanks
[07:40] <therealnanotube> pokesmot: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, there are config lines for color depth (starting with "Depth") look around there
[07:40] <pokesmot> compaq: all i really want is to know what the current settings are
[07:40] <pokesmot> thanks therealnanotube, i'll try that
[07:41] <compaq> anyone know about my old ATI card? I don't know what driver to use, as the proprietary won't help me; my card's too old.
[07:41] <roscar> can anybody guide me on how to reinstall grub from the live cd?
[07:41] <freeride> linux b hurd
[07:41] <Mazus> Does anyone know why there are green lines across the screen with my ati card? drivers are installed
[07:41] <freeride> it make brain hert
[07:41] <therealnanotube> pokesmot: there should be also a line "defaultdepth" that should be helpful :)
[07:41] <mitrovarr> compaq:  Old radeons use the driver 'radeon' not any of the fgl ones.
[07:41] <Jordan_U> !grub | roscar
[07:41] <ubotu> roscar: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:42] <compaq> mitrovarr, will that give me 3d?
[07:42] <mitrovarr> compaq:  Yep.
[07:42] <mitrovarr> compaq:  Well, it did for me.  YMMV.
[07:42] <normma1> i have a folder with read-only permissions, how do i delete it (sorry i am completely new to this)
[07:42] <mitrovarr> compaq:  It doesn't work for all radeons, though.  What is yours?
[07:42] <therealnanotube> compaq: you might have to change the xorg.conf settings to enable it though, if it's not enabled by default...
[07:43] <therealnanotube> normmal: first, make sure you really want to delete it. :) what is this folder you are trying to kill?
[07:43] <compaq> R100 QD (7200), a real piece. and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does not offer that driver
[07:43] <normma1> i just accidentally installed java to my desktop
[07:43] <mitrovarr> compaq:  You need the xserver-xorg-video-ati package to get the radeon driver.\
[07:44] <mitrovarr> compaq:  You might have to edit the xorg.conf yourself.
[07:44] <compaq> mitrovarr, thats no problem. i could have done this a million times for nvidia :)
[07:44] <Tigerwraith> finally figured out what i did wrong
[07:44] <therealnanotube> normmal: run "sudo rm -rf /home/username/Desktop/yourjavadir", but substitute your actual username for "username" and the actual java directory name on your desktop for "yourjavadir". that will remove that folder. sudo will ask you for your user passwd.
[07:45] <roscar> ubotu: thanks, I'll give that a go. Hopefully Yi won't be coming back
[07:45] <Tigerwraith> i think i may go and do a reinstall just so i get rid of alot of packages that got downloaded that i dont need
[07:45] <normma1> ahh thanks
[07:46] <Mazus> mitrovarr are you running an ati card?
[07:46] <compaq> mitrovarr, that package was not found. is it in non-free?
[07:46] <spartas> Tigerwraith: dpkg --get-selections may help (lists the installed packages for you)
[07:47] <spartas> ah, too late
[07:47] <mitrovarr> Mazus:  Not anymore.  I used to use a radeon 7500 on a different computer I used to administrate.  Current computers are running nvidia 8800gtx, nvidia 6600gt, and nvidia 4400ti.
[07:47] <Mazus> ahh Cool
[07:47] <mitrovarr> compaq:  Hmm.  I'm pretty sure it's free.  maybe the name is off.
[07:48] <mitrovarr> err, 8800gts
[07:48] <Mazus> mitrovarr you ever heard of green lines on the screen with an ati card?
[07:48] <snak3> your next one is a 10000xxx i guess :)
[07:48] <mitrovarr> compaq:  I'm showing it being called "xserver-xorg-video-ati" and it's got the little ubuntu icon, and was installed on my system despite not needing it (I bet it's automatic)
[07:49] <compaq> mitrovarr, how would i check?
[07:49] <mitrovarr> Mazus:  I had some wierd visual corruption with the 7500, but it didn't preclude use.  3d was accelerated, the visual corruption was in 2d.... little lines, like you said.
[07:49] <_aa_> hello
[07:49] <_aa_> i had a quick question i was hopin someone may be able to enlighten me on
[07:49] <Mazus> mitrovarr did you manage to fix the problem?
[07:50] <mitrovarr> Mazus:  no... but it was a minor enough problem I didn't feel the need.  Just a minor irritation.  Is yours worse?
[07:50] <_aa_> fyi, i've never used *nix... anyways i just got ubuntu up n runnin last night, real easy install, in the process of getting my wireless nic card to work but of course i dont have the drivers... i've been googling like madsauce and found that i probably should use ndiswrapper but i had a question on the install b/c i don't have net access on this other pc and i'll be installing ndiswrapper hopefully from my usb flash drive...
[07:50] <_aa_> right; so i dl'd the tar.gz file which if i remember right is the *nix equivalent of a zip file... i was curious tho if the install file was going to try to dl the package from the net?
[07:50] <Bepo> hey guys I have a little problem here: originally had ubuntu installed and decided to create a partition for windows. SO i resized my Ubuntu hard drive with the live cd and proceeded with installing Windows, but it looks like it got rid of the Grub. SO I cannot run Ubuntu now, it only loads WINdows. How do I fix this?
[07:51] <Mazus> mitrovarr im using dvi out on my 9600 for mythtv and well livetv is playing the lines go through everything
[07:51] <Mazus> *when
[07:51] <n2diy> Bepo: re-install ubuntu.
[07:51] <mitrovarr> Mazus:  I did escape the issue but that's because when I got my 8800gts, the 6600gt went into my next best computer, and its 4200ti went into the one that had the radeon.   It's been retired (actually it lives in a small, experimental openbsd box that lives in my basement.)
[07:51] <Bepo> n2diy: :( lol is that the only option i got here?
[07:52] <mitrovarr> Mazus;  I wish I could help, but my experience was with ancient 7500 ati cards.  The 9600 probably uses the ati proprietary drivers, which I know nothing about.
[07:52] <FunnyMan3595> Bepo: Have you tried booting off a live CD?
[07:52] <Mazus> ahh thats cool thanks for the help
[07:52] <FunnyMan3595> Bepo: If you can see the linux partition from a live CD, there's hope.  If not, Windows probably ate it.  :(
[07:52] <mitrovarr> compaq:   I'd probably go 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati'.  It'll tell you if you have it and get it if you don't.
[07:53] <Bepo> FunnyMan3595: ah ok... if it did see it what do I do?
[07:53] <n2diy> Bepo: I don't know if it is the only option, but it is the only one I'm aware of. Never install Winders on top of anything.
[07:53] <Bepo> ah sad times...
[07:53] <Bepo> :::shakes fist at Microsoft:::
[07:54] <FunnyMan3595> Bepo: In that case, you'll need to find a way to force a grub reinstall.  If you've got inet access from the livecd, sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub    should work
[07:54] <mitrovarr> It is pretty annoying how bad Windows is about nuking other OSs boot sectors.
[07:54] <blanky> I work at microsoft
[07:54] <blanky> I'm a janitor
[07:54] <compaq> mitrovarr, is that available in breezy? the only references to that are on Edgy and I have not upgraded this box there yet,
[07:54] <spartas> !RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows | Bepo
[07:54] <cmt^^> How come I can't run scripts from my ~/scripts-dir even though I put that path in to my PATH variable?
[07:54] <blanky> I'm using ubuntu as a way to fight back at their low wages
[07:55] <n2diy> ! enter | blanky
[07:55] <ubotu> blanky: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:55] <Bepo> ah ok a so exactly: sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub ?
[07:55] <mitrovarr> compaq:  oh, I didn't think about that!  It's xserver-xorg-driver-ati for you.
[07:55] <theflyingfool> what media player does everyone use
[07:55] <blanky> n2diy: how dare you ubotu me
[07:55] <normma1> what is the easiest way to install things like azures and java rte
[07:55] <blanky> theflyingfool: vlc :)
[07:55] <tenju> wena
[07:55] <blanky> theflyingfool: for music, amarok
[07:55] <tenju> y wea
[07:55] <tenju> jajaja xD
[07:55] <n2diy> blanky: sorry, not. :)
[07:56] <Madpilot> theflyingfool, depends - I use several, for different things
[07:56] <blanky> :(
[07:56] <blanky> :'(
[07:56] <theflyingfool> madpilot: music
[07:56] <compaq> mitrovarr, this will give me 3d? i only get ~200fps in glxgears
[07:56] <Madpilot> theflyingfool, Muine
[07:56] <blanky> I been with ubuntu since 4.04, back when i stole the CD from a magazine at barnes and nobles
[07:56] <theflyingfool> i love barnes and nobles
[07:56] <compaq> stealing free software, that's sad.
[07:56] <blanky> I wasn't actually stealing, I was actually making the magazine (linux) a favor, BECASUE i stole it, i fell in love with ubuntu :)
[07:56] <cmt^^> Anyone has any ideas for why I can't run shell-scripts even though I added the path of my scripts-dir to the $PATH?
[07:56] <mitrovarr> compaq:  I think so.  I'm sure using the radeon driver is a necessary step to getting 3d.
[07:56] <blanky> compaq: :')
[07:57] <FunnyMan3595> Bepo: No guarantees, but theoretically, that should force the livecd to fix your boot system.  Can't say for sure, but the worst I'd predict would be a no-op.
[07:57] <gameover> hi
[07:57] <spartas> blanky, actually 4.10 was the first ubuntu release
[07:57] <blanky> oh
[07:57] <gameover> i need help with ndiswrapper
[07:57] <blanky> spartas: help me here...
[07:57] <mitrovarr> just out of curiousity, how do you get fps readouts in glxgears?  I want to see what mine is.
[07:57] <blanky> Yeah I meant 4.10 that's right
[07:57] <spartas> 5.04 maybe?
[07:57] <blanky> no, 4.10
[07:57] <compaq> xserver-xorg-driver-ati is already the newest version.
[07:57] <compaq> , mitrovarr. but the driver is still not available...? what the hell.
[07:57] <spartas> oh, okay
[07:57] <n2diy> FunnyMan3595: Bepo quit.
[07:57] <blanky> I remember it was 4 point something :)
[07:58] <FunnyMan3595> n2diy: So I saw... after I said that.
[07:58] <gameover> driver installed,hardware present
[07:58] <blanky> i wubuntu :)
[07:58] <mitrovarr> compaq:  What's it say?
[07:58] <spartas> blanky, same here; i just happened to install it at a linux install-fest soon after its release
[07:58] <gameover> but i cant find any interface with wireless extensions
[07:58] <blanky> spartas: cool, I had tried all these other distros trying to be 1337, but I was such a noob, then I found ubuntu 4.10, wait, 'found', and I fell in love with it :')
[07:59] <blanky> I was what made ubuntu so popular
[07:59] <compaq> mitrovarr, what is it that you want to know? what does it say where
[07:59] <blanky> it's me guys, give me some credit!
[07:59] <spartas> riight
[07:59] <n2diy> gameover: what does ifconfig tell you?
[07:59] <Madpilot> blanky, if you just want to chat, #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere, please. Not here, this is a support channel...
[07:59] <gameover> just eth0 and lo
[07:59] <blanky> Madpilot: sorry man, im hyper
[07:59] <mitrovarr> compaq:  When you try to run 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati' and 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-ati'
[08:00] <n2diy> gameover: and "ifup wlan0" ?
[08:00] <theflyingfool> is frostwire in repos?
[08:00] <gameover> no such device
[08:01] <n2diy> gameover: hmm, it ain't working.
[08:01] <Madpilot> theflyingfool, no
[08:01] <Madpilot> !frostwire
[08:01] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:01] <cmt^^> I have the following setup: a directory in my home-dir called 'scripts' where I store my .sh-scripts and i've set done 'export PATH="$PATH:~/scripts" ' but my scripts won't run, what can be the problem?
[08:01] <gameover> any clue on how to make it work?
[08:02] <n2diy> gameover: logout, and back in again, and see if you can bring it up.
[08:02] <e1> is there a channel for file sharing like bitorrent and stuff?
[08:03] <compaq> http://www.pastebin.us/10923, mitrovarr
[08:03] <mitrovarr> heh
[08:03] <mitrovarr> I get 25000 fps in glxgears
[08:03] <cmt^^> How do I set my path to work?
[08:04] <compaq> god damn it. even google has not helped me and this is making my mom want her windows back lol
[08:04] <mitrovarr> compaq:  "xserver-xorg-driver-ati is already the newest version."
[08:04] <mitrovarr> compaq:  Go into your xorg.conf and change your driver line to radeon
[08:04] <compaq> omg, duh lol
[08:05] <theflyingfool> is the compression on .ogg worse then that of .mp3?
[08:05] <ootput> theflyingfool: no?
[08:05] <compaq> theflyingfool, i like it better IMHO
[08:05] <ootput> theflyingfool: there are different settings for both encoders
[08:06] <n2diy> how can I change my keyboard layout in a console, without X running?
[08:06] <mitrovarr> theflyingfool:  .ogg is generally considered to have a better compression rate/quality ratio than mp3.
[08:06] <ootput> theflyingfool: iirc, it takes less cpu to decode ogg for playback
[08:06] <keeganX> Anyone know a good distro that fits on a floppy?
[08:06] <ootput> theflyingfool: hence better power consumption?
[08:06] <theflyingfool> oh, the files just seem to be larger after i switched them out of mp3 into ogg
[08:06] <mitrovarr> keeganX:  I don't think there's any but tomsrbt
[08:07] <keeganX> tomsrbt have a gui or no?
[08:07] <blanky> theflyingfool: there's different compression levels
[08:07] <Slart> Is there a good alternative to DVD shrink for linux/ubuntu?
[08:07] <blanky> you probably chose the lowest, which gives you higher quality
[08:07] <mitrovarr> keeganX:  I sincerely doubt it.
[08:07] <blanky> Slart: kmpg2 (http://www.kde-apps.org
[08:07] <ootput> Slart: not on par with dvdshrink (which is a fantastic app, btw)
[08:07] <mitrovarr> keeganX:  Actually it's tomsrtbt.  http://www.toms.net/rb/
[08:07] <n2diy> keeganX: your luck to get a kernel on a floppy, let alone X.
[08:07] <ootput> and no, there's no linux development for it
[08:08] <Slart> blanky: thanks, I'll check it out
[08:08] <blanky> Slart: let me know if you find it, at least that's what I think the name is
[08:08] <Slart> ootput: yes.. but I'm sure something will pop up
[08:08] <keeganX> I have no problem using more than one floppy
[08:08] <blanky> Slart: I have also heard people use dvdshrink under wine just as well
[08:08] <mitrovarr> keeganX:  I honestly don't know why you'd use linux-on-a-floppy, with CD boot distros and USB stick boot distros.
[08:08] <blanky> Slart: http://www.winehq.org
[08:08] <blanky> mitrovarr: school probably
[08:08] <keeganX> My laptop doesn't have a CDrom drive
[08:08] <blanky> keeganX: in that case, does it have internet?
[08:09] <keeganX> No internet
[08:09] <blanky> oh, nevermind
[08:09] <Slart> blanky: that would be one way.. I'll just check the kde app first.. I'd rather go native than through wine
[08:09] <mitrovarr> blanky:  Unless he's using it for comp-sci experiments, I think a livecd would be way more practical.
[08:09] <ootput> there's linux on a floppy
[08:09] <n2diy> ootput: with X?
[08:09] <blanky> Slart: alright, though kmpg2 (as far as I know) isn't as dvdshrink where you simply put in the dvd and it does it all for you, it's easy, but I use it for converting things such as divx videos to dvd format (and in dvd size)
[08:09] <blanky> mitrovarr: he said he has no cd drive
[08:10] <keeganX> http://www.geocities.com/dueze/compaqlte475.html
[08:10] <keeganX> Thats the same laptop I have and he installed slack 7.1 on it
[08:10] <VMT2007> oh my god
[08:10] <VMT2007> 666 newly installed packages with one apt-get
[08:10] <VMT2007> :X
[08:10] <VMT2007> bad premonition about this
[08:10] <n2diy> ! enter | VMT2007
[08:10] <ubotu> VMT2007: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:10] <mitrovarr> keeganX:  Does it have a USB port?  You could use a usb flash drive.
[08:11] <Slart> blanky: hmm.. can't find kmpg2 in the repositories.. it goes by another name?
[08:11] <cmt^^> My path contains every dir I want it to, but my scripts still can't be found, what might be wrong?
[08:11] <keeganX> No USB port :(
[08:11] <Rob-West> does anyone know how to start the FTP daemon
[08:11] <keeganX> I give up :(
[08:11] <mitrovarr> keeganX:  Ok, I guess floppys are your best option.
[08:12] <n2diy> cmt^^: are you in there directory when you try to run them?
[08:12] <FunnyMan3595> Okay...  I've got a dual-monitor setup under edgy with an ATI Radeon 9200 SE.  I started under dapper, and it was working fine.  After the (reccommended method) edgy upgrade I started having the main problem below.  After attempting to fix it seven ways from Sunday (with no success and often causing problems), I'm now using this config: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/319/ .  Looks to me like I ended up with both vesa and fglrx in different places, and 
[08:12] <VMT2007> Rob-West: depends, which daemon
[08:12] <cmt^^> n2diy - yes and no, i've tried both in and out of that dir
[08:12] <Rob-West> FTP
[08:12] <blanky> Slart: hold on
[08:12] <n2diy> cmt^^: ok, when you are in the directory you need to use ./filename to run them.
[08:13] <cmt^^> n2diy - in what directory?
[08:13] <cmt^^> :)
[08:13] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: Same one as the program.
[08:13] <n2diy> cmt^^: the directory where your files are, ./ basically tells the system to look here, not in the path.
[08:14] <Slart> blanky: well. there's an installer on the official site.. I'll try that
[08:14] <cmt^^> n2diy - well it still doesn't work
[08:14] <blanky> Slart: you probably didn't search correctly, http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29587
[08:14] <blanky> I said kmpg2
[08:15] <n2diy> cmt^^: and these are bash scripts?
[08:15] <cmt^^> n2diy - josef@josef:~/Film...Serier/serier/Over There$ ./movehere
[08:15] <cmt^^> bash: ./movehere - Command not found
[08:15] <cmt^^> shellscripts
[08:15] <cmt^^> .sh
[08:15] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: Try ls -l movehere
[08:15] <Slart> blanky: apt-cache search kmpg2 gives me nothing.. but I found the homepage.. I'll get it there..
[08:15] <cmt^^> don't know the difference
[08:16] <cmt^^> FunnyMan3595 - i've done chmod a+x movehere.sh if that's what you're wondering
[08:16] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^ You need the extension on the file name when you try to run it.
[08:16] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: Yup.
[08:16] <blanky> Slart: I told you to look in kde-apps.org, http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29587
[08:16] <n2diy> cmt^^: I didn't think spaces where legal in naming a directory? And the $ is suspect too.
[08:17] <cmt^^> n2diy - well that's hardly the issue here, is it?
[08:17] <FunnyMan3595> n2diy, cmt^^: Spaces are legal but can cause problems.
[08:17] <Dasnipa`> n2diy, spaces are legal only if they are \'ed
[08:17] <berent> how to check ram properties in ubuntu
[08:17] <Dasnipa`> this\ is\ a\ space
[08:17] <cmt^^> that doesn't seem to be the problem though I don't think.. spaces or not, the system still can't find the .sh-file
[08:17] <berent> how to check ram properties in ubuntu
[08:18] <cmt^^> even when doing ./movehere.sh
[08:18] <n2diy> Dasnipa`: shouldn't that be this \ \ is a space?
[08:18] <Dasnipa`> n2diy, yeah well...
[08:18] <Dasnipa`> cmt^^, will you pastebin your script?
[08:18] <cmt^^> sure
[08:18] <Dasnipa`> i have a thought
[08:19] <seanj> berent: i usually use the 'free' command
[08:19] <berent> seanj : free shows              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[08:19] <berent> Mem:        255424     248576       6848          0      10152     111596
[08:19] <berent> -/+ buffers/cache:     126828     128596
[08:19] <berent> Swap:       979924       1124     978800
[08:20] <FunnyMan3595> !pastebin | berent
[08:20] <ubotu> berent: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:20] <berent> sorry
[08:20] <berent> oops
[08:20] <n2diy> ! pastebin | berent
[08:20] <FunnyMan3595> No problem, just remember it later.
[08:20] <cmt^^> Dasnipa` - http://pastebin.se/5362
[08:20] <Mir> hi could anybody plz help me?
[08:20] <cmt^^> oh
[08:20] <cmt^^> FunnyMan3595 - http://pastebin.se/5362
[08:20] <Mir> i am stuck
[08:20] <cmt^^> :)
[08:20] <ootput> Mir: tried using grease?
[08:21] <berent> seanj : i wanna know the make and other properties of RAM
[08:21] <berent> is there any command
[08:21] <Mir> hi ootput
[08:21] <ootput> berent: I don't think that's coded into the ram
[08:21] <Mir> what is grease?
[08:21] <cmt^^> it's a lubricant
[08:21] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: Hmm...  Try: ls /bin/bash
[08:21] <berent> ootput : valid point
[08:21] <n2diy> cmt^^: Loose the line numbers!
[08:22] <FunnyMan3595> n2diy: Artifact of pastebin, I believe.
[08:22] <berent> then is there no way to get into the device
[08:22] <VMT2007> what?
[08:22] <n2diy> FunnyMan3595: Ah ok. ?
[08:22] <Mir> how should i install the jre 1.6?
[08:22] <cmt^^> FunnyMan3595 - and look for what?
[08:22] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: If it gives anything but an error, that's good.
[08:22] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: Though a directory listing would be bizarre.
[08:23] <cmt^^> it just displays the /bin/bash
[08:23] <user2008> anyone know how to disable the <shift> backspace logout issue?
[08:23] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^ Okay, so that's definitely there...
[08:23] <cmt^^> well yeah
[08:23] <cmt^^> the script has worked occasionally
[08:23] <Dasnipa`> cmt^^, are you about to run it locally with ./ ?
[08:23] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: O.o
[08:23] <berent> exit
[08:23] <n2diy> FunnyMan3595: cmt^^, how does bash play with blank lines?
[08:24] <cmt^^> I think you guys were right
[08:24] <cmt^^> it's the spaces that mess everything up
[08:24] <blanky> hey guys, how do I move a window to another wordspace?
[08:24] <blanky> nevermind I got it
[08:24] <cmt^^> i tried tab-completing moveh<tab> from a non-spaced dir
[08:24] <cmt^^> and it worked
[08:24] <grndslm> can somebody help me figure out why my new monitor won't work...ACER AL2216W with Intel i815 graphics??  i've tried using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it autodetects and all...i've tried using all resolutions and all different bits...
[08:24] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: Hmm.
[08:25] <VMT2007> time to see if I can get this stupid wireless adapter working
[08:26] <cmt^^> FunnyMan3595 - Now to the real problem
[08:26] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: Try a hello world script in the same location, just as a sanity check.  If that works, it's something internal to the script that needs to be encased in double quotes or otherwise safeguarded against spaces.
[08:26] <Dasnipa`> cmt^^, yes, when passed as a parameter the space would mean the next word is in $2 and not $1
[08:26] <mitrovarr> is beryl better than compiz?  I've been trying to get them working today
[08:27] <ootput>  Is there a way to remove subtitles from subtitled AVI's?
[08:27] <cmt^^> how do I collect all files of a specified type, say *.avi, and move them to the dir where the script is run from?
[08:27] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: On second thought, Dasnipa`s probably got it...
[08:27] <cmt^^> FunnyMan3595 - I just did mv Over\ There/ Over.There
[08:27] <cmt^^> :)
[08:27] <ootput> cmt^^: use locate?
[08:28] <cmt^^> FunnyMan3595 - how about it, any ideas?
[08:28] <cmt^^> FunnyMan3595 - can I priv-msg you?
[08:29] <n2diy> cmt^^: we're trying to nail down your problem, and now it is a moving target! ;)
[08:29] <Dasnipa`> it would have to be something like for $a in locate *.avi do mv $a .
[08:29] <cmt^^> well
[08:29] <blanky> ootput: doubt it, if the subtitles are already in the AVI, well, consider them part of the frames I guess
[08:29] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: I'd have no problem with that, but that moves it off the record, which is searchable in case someone else needs to do it later.
[08:29] <Acidic`> Hi, im having trouble with the GRUB bootloader, I'm unfamiliar with the interface and It's not recognizing my windows installation
[08:29] <cmt^^> find worked just fine when locating .rar-files in any subfolder and extracting them
[08:29] <blanky> Acidic`: gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:30] <blanky> no wait
[08:30] <blanky> Acidic`: no wiat
[08:30] <cmt^^> i have a script for that
[08:30] <Acidic`> ok
[08:30] <blanky> hey guys, hwat's that one command to make grub 're-check' the partitions
[08:30] <blanky> you know, to check which ones are there and what not
[08:30] <cmt^^> shouldn't I be able to rebuild it to move files instead of un-raring them?
[08:30] <blanky> Acidic`: you're sure you didn't erase it accidentally?
[08:30] <macogw> in /etc/grub/device.map you mean?
[08:30] <blanky> Acidic`: do you know if it's still there?
[08:30] <mneptok> blanky: grub-install
[08:30] <blanky> macogw: nah I mean, someone once told me this command, yea hthat mneptok
[08:30] <Acidic`> blanky: i haven't touched the disk that it was on
[08:30] <blanky> Acidic`: try grub-install
[08:30] <Acidic`> its on a seperate SATA drive
[08:31] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: Yeah, but be warned that duplicate file names will collide when moving in from separate directories.
[08:31] <mneptok> blanky: +sudo
[08:31] <blanky> Acidic`: that might be the problem, unfortunatel I have no experience with SATA drives
[08:31] <elyon> Could someone please help me install GimpShop from a tarbell?
[08:31] <blanky> Acidic`: Ask "Can someone help me make grub recognize my Windows install on my seperate SATA drive?"
[08:31] <icheyne> why aren't my settings being saved between sessions? When I reboot, I have to reopen all my apps and change my screen resolution.
[08:31] <Acidic`> Can someone help me make grub recognize my  Windows install on my seperate SATA drive?
[08:31] <Acidic`> blanky: ty :)
[08:32] <FunnyMan3595> elyon: It's tarball, and you should tell us what stage you're at.
[08:32] <blanky> IceTox: gnome?
[08:32] <blanky> Acidic`: no problem, just hope people help you
[08:32] <FunnyMan3595> elyon: Have you tried anything with it yet?
[08:32] <blanky> icheyne: gnome?
[08:32] <icheyne> blanky: what do you mean?
[08:32] <elyon> FunnyMan3595 - no.  I just downloaded the archive and opened it... lots of files.
[08:32] <blanky> icheyne: what are you running, GNOME?
[08:32] <icheyne> blanky: yes I am
[08:32] <elyon> ...FunnyMan3595 - but I found an INSTALL file in it :/
[08:32] <blanky> icheyne: ah okay, hmm...you only have one user?
[08:32] <mitrovarr> Acidic':  What exactly do you mean?  Is there not an entry for it in the menu?  Or does it not work?
[08:33] <Acidic`> mitrovarr: no entry
[08:33] <icheyne> blanky: no, three, but I only use this one
[08:33] <blanky> icheyne: hmm, do you have the same problems with the others?
[08:33] <FunnyMan3595> elyon: Read it.
[08:33] <icheyne> blanky: dunno
[08:33] <FunnyMan3595> elyon: It's just a text file.
[08:33] <icheyne> blanky: should I check?
[08:33] <cmt^^> FunnyMan3595 - well how do I do it? :| The unpack.sh-script looks like this: http://pastebin.se/5363
[08:34] <blanky> icheyne: Sorry, I'm not sure, that might help, checking I mean, see if there are conflicts, though I Doubt it, honestly I don't know, maybe try asking in #gnome? or try asking here again
[08:34] <elyon> FunnyMan3595 - Yeah, I opened it right after I asked the question in here... I was premature asking for help... just with so many files I didn't see it at first.  Sorry.
[08:34] <cmt^^> How do I modify it to move files rather than unpack?
[08:34] <blanky> Acidic`: and you tried 'sudo grub-install' right?
[08:34] <icheyne> ok thanks blanky I'll ask at #gnome
[08:34] <mitrovarr> Acidic':  You could just make one.  The menu is stored in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:34] <FunnyMan3595> elyon: No problem.  Speak up if you have problems.
[08:34] <Acidic`> blanky: yes, but there is no execution.. it needs extra parameters
[08:34] <blanky> mitrovarr: he's using SATA drives, and I doubt he knows how to edit that file
[08:34] <mitrovarr> blanky:  I was going to tell him :-)
[08:35] <Acidic`> mitrovarr: Ok, im very unfamiliar with boot loaders though. How will I be sure of what to do?
[08:35] <Lithe>  
[08:35] <blanky> mitrovarr: o sorry :(
[08:35] <blanky> Lithe: ?
[08:35] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: *hasn't forgotten you*
[08:35] <cmt^^> Sweet.
[08:35] <cmt^^> :}
[08:35] <elyon> FunnyMan3595 - Well, the install file says NOT to build the software myself unless I'm experienced with it - which I'm obviously not lol
[08:36] <[Lithe] > help
[08:36] <FunnyMan3595> elyon: That means one of two things.  a: It's actually hard.  b: The maintainer doesn't want to deal with anyone who needs help.
[08:36] <[Lithe] > ..    )
[08:36] <[Lithe] > -man
[08:37] <[Lithe] > man irc =)))
[08:37] <jdhoreotg> i have a question: i used XGL/Compiz (i think) on a Kororaa Live CD (about 6-9 months old) with my NVidia Geforce 420 Go card and it worked flawlessly...i try to run it on Ubuntu and it runs like crap...why?
[08:37] <Acidic`> mitrovarr: I'm looking at the general syntax of the entries in menu.lst, and im not entirely sure how to add a partition from a sata drive that would work
[08:37] <[Lithe] > it's russian chanel ?
[08:37] <jdhoreotg> *Ubuntu HD Install
[08:37] <elyon> FunnyMan3595 - well, its telling me to install a bunch of stuff I don't know how to do.  So maybe I'll just struggle through learning Gimp
[08:38] <FunnyMan3595> elyon: There's apparently a package for it for debian
[08:38] <FunnyMan3595> !gimpshop | elyon
[08:38] <ubotu> elyon: gimpshop is a hack that makes The Gimp look and feel more like Photoshop.  A .deb for Ubuntu is available via http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294
[08:38] <elyon> FunnyMan3595 - oh, thank you!
[08:38] <mitrovarr> Acidic':  The entry in my menu.lst that boots my windows partition (on a SATA drive) is http://pastebin.com/850101
[08:38] <Bepo> Hey guys I got grub loading but it now doesnt see my Windows parition. I originall installed Ubuntu then installed Windows. But it got rid of my grub menu. Went in and reinstalled grub. But now it doesn see my windows parition, and therefore I can't boot into windows.
[08:39] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: Okay, as long as the directory is getting passed in as one parameter (i.e. spaces protected), $1 should work.
[08:39] <mitrovarr> Acidic':  The main thing is to get the root entry correct.  I don't think there's anything special you need to do in the entry because the drive is SATA; at least, I didn't have to.
[08:39] <Acidic`> mitrovarr: How does GRUB distinguish that from the others (on mine it has hd0,0 as all the other ones.
[08:40] <elyon> FunnyMan3595 - Well, I installed that package and now ALL my Graphics software is missing from my menus...
[08:40] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: It should probably be encased in double-quotes, though.  I think it'll lose the escaping when you pass it onwards.
[08:40] <mitrovarr> Acidic':  Are all of those entries on the same partition and the same drive?
[08:40] <Bepo> Any ideas guys?
[08:40] <elyon> I was able to add them back in with Edit Menus, but there's no sign of Gimpshop...
[08:40] <Acidic`> mitrovarr: NVM i was being silly. All the ubuntu entries are hd0,0
[08:40] <cmt^^> ok..?
[08:40] <mitrovarr> Acidic':  If your linux drive is hd0,0 and your windows drive is on another physical drive, probably you want hd1,0
[08:40] <n2diy> ! grub | Bepo
[08:40] <ubotu> Bepo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:40] <Acidic`> mitrovarr: How would i be able to find out the equivalent to hd0,0 for my windows partition?
[08:41] <FunnyMan3595> elyon: Hmm...  Try 'which gimpshop' from a command line.
[08:41] <FunnyMan3595> elyon: Sans quotes, naturally.
[08:41] <elyon> FunnyMan3595 - returned nothing.
[08:41] <mitrovarr> Acidic':  Is it on the first (or only) partition on the only other drive in your system?
 i have a question: i used XGL/Compiz (i think) on a Kororaa Live CD (about 6-9 months old) with my NVidia Geforce 420 Go card and it worked flawlessly...i try to run it on Ubuntu and it runs like crap...why?
[08:42] <Acidic`> mitrovarr: I'm not 100% sure, but i believe so. since it was the first one made on that disk..
[08:42] <Acidic`> mitrovarr:  and yes, that is the only other hard drive on my computer.
[08:42] <mlalkaka> jdhoreotg: did you use the same versions of XGL and Compiz?
[08:42] <mitrovarr> Acidic':  You can hit 'e' to edit lines in your grub while you're in the grub menu, and 'b' to boot the modified version.  So you can try others if you want.  The changes you make like that aren't saved.
[08:42] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: Okay, looks like -exec makes find run a command once for each thing it finds.
[08:43] <Acidic`> mitrovarr: I dont understand, im editing menu.lst with gedit right now
[08:43] <mitrovarr> Acidic':  In that case, I'd be very surprised if it's not hd1,0 (and if not that hd1,1)
[08:43] <jdhoreotg> mlalkaka: i believe i used newer versions of XGL/Compiz (cuz i got them from apt-repos)
[08:43] <cmt^^> FunnyMan3595 - agreed
[08:43] <mitrovarr> Acidic':  Changes you make to menu.lst are permanent.  While you are in your grub menu during booting, you can hit 'e' to edit entries (or maybe it's c, I forget) during booting.  Then, you hit 'b' to boot the modified version.
[08:43] <Erb> Is there a way to sort readdir entries without putting the entries into an array?
[08:44] <Acidic`> mitrovarr: ok, well I won't be editing the original entries
[08:44] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: So the changes to try would be "$1" and -exec<font size="3"> mv \{} "$1" \;</font>
[08:44] <Acidic`> if worst comes to worst ill just reinstall ubuntu (I have a fresh install right now so no harm done)
[08:44] <mitrovarr> Acidic':  So if you create a windows entry and it doesn't work, you can do a quick edit of the line and try booting a different root drive.  I had to do that to save my last install; the install CD got the drives in my system exactly wrong (thought hd0 was hd1 and vice versa)
[08:45] <Acidic`> mitrovarr: thanks, that'll come in handy
[08:45] <elyon> FunnyMan3595 - I tried reinstalling the Gimpshop package and watched the Terminal this time.  After "Unpacking Gimpshop" it just stops and says it was installed.
[08:45] <Acidic`> ill finish this edit up and try it out
[08:45] <toulouse> hey guys, which other linux os should i try?
[08:45] <toulouse> i want to just try something different
[08:45] <Bepo> n2diy: I did that guide. But now Windows wont boot... or isnt in the menu
[08:45] <jdhoreotg> Debian!
[08:45] <pritisd> hi all
[08:45] <Acidic`> brb!
[08:45] <cmt^^> FunnyMan3595 - uhm... font size?
[08:45] <jdhoreotg> toulouse: Debian
[08:45] <mitrovarr> Acidic':  Oh, if you mess up the menu.lst too badly, it'll break the system... so be careful.
[08:46] <toulouse> debian, lol (ubuntu is debian)
[08:46] <mitrovarr> bad timing there.
[08:46] <jdhoreotg> i knoew
[08:46] <n2diy> Bepo: what version of Winders is it?
[08:46] <pritisd> i have a query regarding ubuntu boot on sata hard disk
[08:46] <jdhoreotg> but Debian is faster, lighter and more like Linux than Ubuntu
[08:46] <jdhoreotg> Ubuntu even removed friggin Init!
[08:46] <FunnyMan3595> elyon: Sounds like it's failing to put shortcuts in, but the program itself may be installed in its usual place (wherever that is).
[08:46] <chico> help
[08:46] <pritisd> it hangs on the msg "starting hotplug subsystem"
[08:46] <Bepo> n2diy: WIndows XP
[08:46] <beck> I finally got Ubuntu to install on my computer! :D 7 hours for a 700MB download of the alternate installer.
[08:46] <toulouse> ok, but i wanna try something totally diffferent
[08:46] <chico> earlier, i can watch youtube with sounds
[08:46] <chico> but now, no more sounds
[08:47] <Bepo> n2diy: XP PRO to be exact
[08:47] <chico> whats wrong
[08:47] <n2diy> Bepo: hmm, can't help you, ask away.
[08:47] <jdhoreotg> the FreeBSD or Gentoo
[08:47] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: Hmm?
[08:47] <cmt^^> 08:45:38 < FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: So the changes to try would be "$1" and -exec<font size="3"> mv \{} "$1" \;</font>
[08:47] <toulouse> chico: it could be which sound server your computer is set on, or a conflicting app
[08:47] <beck> Audio drivers?
[08:47] <toulouse> chico !sound
[08:47] <toulouse> !sound
[08:47] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:47] <n2diy> jdhoreotg: so you can't do sudo init 1 now?
[08:47] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: Ah, kill the HTML tags, they were an artifact of my copy-paste.
[08:48] <cmt^^> :)
[08:48] <Bepo> guys having trouble with Grub menu, i had to reinstall grub through live cd and terminal, but now windows wont boot from Grub menu... like it doesnt even show up
[08:48] <jdhoreotg> no, for startup, Ubuntu, in Edgy removed Init scripts...it doesn't bother me too much though
[08:48] <n2diy> Bepo, and you did a new install of Ubuntu too, right?
[08:48] <toulouse> guys, openSuse is almost cetching us ubuntu users on distrowatch.com
[08:48] <toulouse> we need new members
[08:48] <jdhoreotg> noooo
[08:49] <Bepo> Ubuntu is working now
[08:49] <toulouse> i know, cant let that happen right
[08:49] <Bepo> it loads into Ubuntu, but not WIndows... I can't see it in the Grub menu
[08:49] <beck> Are there any other Australian users here? :S
[08:49] <jdhoreotg> exactyl, toulouse
[08:49] <elyon> FunnyMan3595 - I did a search of the File System for 'gimpshop' and it returned a few results ALL in the tmp directory
[08:50] <FunnyMan3595> elyon: What'd you search with?  Locate doesn't always know about all files, unless you've just updated its database.
[08:50] <n2diy> ! oz
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <FunnyMan3595> !wizard?
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wizard? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <Bepo> anybody know what I can dO?
[08:50] <n2diy> FunnyMan3595: you are a funny man. :)
[08:51] <elyon> FunnyMan3595 - Places => Search for Files...
[08:51] <Wavesonics> hey i need some help with Beryl
[08:51] <FunnyMan3595> n2diy: I try.
[08:51] <elyon> FunnyMan3595 - When I searched, I disabled the fast search.
[08:51] <toulouse> Wavesonics: check the beryl wiki? anyways, these guys can probly help you, i got mine working of the wiki, and it's freaking awesome
[08:51] <FunnyMan3595> elyon: Okay, not knowing the specifics, I'll assume it does a full search.
[08:51] <Wavesonics> thanks toulouse
[08:52] <Polysics> good morning/whatever it is for you to all! :-)
[08:52] <Polysics> i'm still struggling with that remote desktop thingie
[08:52] <kittyguy> Can someone tell me what is a nubuntu?
[08:52] <n2diy> ! nubuntu
[08:52] <Wavesonics> I got Beryl working before, but when I installed my FireGL drivers, I started using dual head display, and now Beryl crashes
[08:52] <toulouse> nubuntu? maybe a ubuntu newb
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <Polysics> VNC has weird problems, i'd like to try FreeNX but all the repos seem somewhat unreachable
[08:52] <jdhoreotg> Nubuntu is a live distro based on Ubuntu with netowking tools
[08:52] <toulouse> oh lol
[08:52] <kittyguy> jdhoreotg: thanks
[08:53] <jdhoreotg> the support channel is at: irc.kaffeinenet.net #nuubuntu
[08:53] <Tyler> Hey there folks.
[08:53] <jdhoreotg> i actually know the team leader of nUbuntu
[08:53] <Bepo> pretty please someone help me here?
[08:53] <elyon> FunnyMan3595 - Synaptic shows gimpshop to be installed, though.
[08:53] <chico> does it make a lot of difference if i change distro
[08:53] <chico> from breezy to something else
[08:53] <elyon> FunnyMan3595 - I'll try removing that and reinstalling.
[08:53] <toulouse> ok so i want to try freebsd, what name should i search guys?
[08:53] <Polysics> Wavesonics, my personal opinion is that compiz-freedesktop is far superior to beryl
[08:53] <FunnyMan3595> elyon: You can just force a reinstall.
[08:53] <Bepo> Trying to get Windows to load in grub menu
[08:53] <Tyler> I've looked around a bit and I haven't found a solid tutorial on getting Nginx/Mongrel/Postgres/Rails up and running clean and smoothly. Anyone have any suggestions for sites?
[08:53] <FunnyMan3595> elyon: Same net effect.
[08:53] <toulouse> Polysics: is that a fork of beryl?
[08:54] <Polysics> stabler, less useless effects... but that's totally my opinion
[08:54] <Wavesonics> no
[08:54] <Wavesonics> other way around
[08:54] <Wavesonics> beryl is a fork of compiz
[08:54] <Polysics> toulouse, actually, beryl is a fork of compiz :-)
[08:54] <elyon> FunnyMan3595 - Synaptic doesn't give me the option to reinstall... only remove and complete removal.
[08:54] <Polysics> i had all kind of problems with beryl... maybe it's the card, but it is actually fairly new
[08:54] <toulouse> Polysics: oh! whoops
[08:55] <Polysics> Tyler, i'll be in that process this afternoon :-)
[08:55] <toulouse> anyways, my berly compiz works
[08:55] <toulouse> buggy, but it works
[08:55] <Polysics> now that compiz works smoothly, ppl ask me to use my pc just so they can see the effects :-)
[08:55] <Tyler> Oh yeah Polysics? Awesome. :)
[08:55] <FunnyMan3595> elyon: Hmm...
[08:55] <Polysics> basically, beryl/compiz owns Vista so badly i think people could switch on that alone
[08:56] <Fireal> Quick question:  does your swap partition need to be next to your / partition? (i.e. your home partition is not inbetween them)  I seem to remeber something like that but I am not for sure.
[08:56] <Polysics> it's true that the most useless things win with the street man :-)
[08:56] <FunnyMan3595> elyon: Let me grab the gimpshop tarball and see how hard it actually is to compile.
[08:56] <mitrovarr> A pity games don't work better on Linux.  It's really the only thing tying me to windows.  It'd be nice if they worked on macs too.
[08:56] <Polysics> btw, have you heard that Vista cripples playback of multimedia so they can sell you "rights" to see videos and listen to music?
[08:56] <Gruppy> 6.10 won't even install on virtual server  at 800*600*16      no splash   :(
[08:57] <Polysics> ah well, i got myself a Wii and solved that too :-)
[08:57] <elyon> mitrovarr - You'll be happy to know that I've been able to run any of my Windows games (including intense 3d) without a problem in Linux ;)
[08:57] <cmt^^> Does anyone know how to find all files of a specific type in all sub-dirs, and move them to a specified folder, using bash scripting?
[08:57] <mitrovarr> elyon:  Some games have native ports, but believe me, I've had nothing but misery trying to run stuff in wine and cedega
[08:58] <Bepo> Anyone know how to get WIndows to showup in the grub menu? I can't boot into Windows but I can boot in to Ubuntu. The grub menu only gives option to go into Ubuntu not Windows
[08:58] <elyon> mitrovarr - ahh, I use Wine right now... haven't had a problem.  Been using Linux for over a week now and see no reason whatsoever to go back to Windows...
[08:58] <n2diy> Bepo, how many boot options are you offered?
[08:59] <FunnyMan3595> mitrovar, elyon: I've had mixed results with wine.  Works well sometimes, badly others.
[08:59] <elyon> mitrovarr - even my computer illiterate family has migrated to Linux with absolute ease (of course, I sweat and toiled to get it working right for them)
[08:59] <Bepo> nsdiy: just Ubuntu
[08:59] <mitrovarr> elyon:  No doubt.  It depends on what you want to run, I think.
[08:59] <n2diy> Bepo, how many boot options are you offered? One ubuntu, two ubuntu?
[08:59] <toulouse> grub must be a fortune teller, it can see that windows sucks and ubuntu is better
[08:59] <FunnyMan3595> elyon: Which version of gimpshop source did you get?
[08:59] <mitrovarr> elyon:  I did migrate my mother to Linux.  Linux is easy to use, it's just much harder for people at the 'just enough knowledge to be dangerous' stage; it's harder to install third-party programs, hardware, etc.
[08:59] <elyon> FunnyMan3595 - I'll be honest, I haven't tried a LOT of my Windows games in Linux, but the ones I have were just fine.
[09:00] <Bepo> n2diy: oh hmmm severl ubuntus actually. Some say recovery, one says mem test
[09:00] <Bepo> n2diy: none say Windows
[09:00] <spike723> my clock is an hour off, anyone know how to turn off / on daylight savings time?
[09:00] <spike723> I'm running 6.10
[09:00] <elyon> FunnyMan3595 - I got the BZ2 version from gimpshop.net
[09:00] <FunnyMan3595> Bepo: I can hand you the usual magic formula for launching windows, it might work.
[09:00] <elyon> spike723 - right-click the clock and select "Adjust time and date"
[09:00] <Bepo> Funnyman3595: really? isn there a way to edit the menu?
[09:00] <chico> Earlier my YOUTUBE videos do HAVE sounds while my audio cd DOES NOT, now it is the other way around.
[09:01] <toulouse> chico: you in gnome or kde?
[09:01] <mitrovarr> elyon:  I wish they'd make a synaptic-like program for third-party software, so it'd be easy for companies to sell commercial software for linux; a lot of stuff will probably never have good OSS equivilents, like greeting card software, etc. that no one wants to code.
[09:01] <chico> How do i switch them alternate, when needed
[09:01] <FunnyMan3595> Bepo: Certainly.
[09:01] <nn> omg
[09:01] <chico> i dont know the difference really
[09:01] <nn>           TX packets:469667 errors:1143 dropped:1143 overruns:0 carrier:0
[09:01] <nn>           collisions:11196 txqueuelen:1000
[09:01] <chico> how do i know
[09:01] <nn> anyone else with rt2500 have that?
[09:01] <FunnyMan3595> Bepo: Take care, though, it's possible to screw things up if you edit the file wrong.
[09:01] <Bepo> FunnyMan3595: please please help :(
[09:01] <elyon> mitrovarr - they don't need greeting card software.  use Scribus ;)
[09:01] <toulouse> chico: is the bacground brown or blue
[09:01] <chico> brown
[09:01] <Bepo> FunnyMan3595: what was your solution?
[09:02] <mitrovarr> elyon:  Well, that was just an example
[09:02] <toulouse> ok, your in gnome
[09:02] <elyon> mitrovarr - aside from games, I've been able to find a native linux app for everything I used in Windows... EVERYTHING.
[09:02] <toulouse> chico: go to applications>sound and video
[09:02] <chico> then
[09:02] <spike723> elyon: I did that but I see no checkbox to indicate daylight savings
[09:02] <toulouse> then look for gnome alsa mixer or "alsa mixer
[09:02] <Fireal> does it matter where the swap partition is on a hard drive?
[09:02] <FunnyMan3595> Bepo: Okay, step one is to figure out what /dev/hdX the windows partition is.
[09:02] <toulouse> is it there
[09:02] <toulouse> ?
[09:02] <elyon> spike723 - do you have the proper time zone selected?
[09:03] <Acidic`> Can someone help me mount my SATA drive using ubuntu livecd? :/
[09:03] <Bepo> FunnyMan3595: and how do I do that?
[09:03] <chico> I dont have those
[09:03] <VMT2007> ugh
[09:03] <VMT2007> I can't get my wireless driver working
[09:03] <toulouse> chico: ok, go to applications>add/remove
[09:03] <spike723> elyon: yep
[09:04] <mitrovarr> elyon:  Yeah, but there's some things that don't have equivilent programs.  Photoshop, and desktop publishing software, is the best example; GIMP is nowhere near that level, and I don't know of any wysiwyg desktop publishing software that is remotely competitive.
[09:04] <elyon> Okay, I have a really lame question - is there a faster way in XChat to copy a user's name to the input box?  I'm tired of having to type out someone's complete name everytime I talk to them.\
[09:04] <Bepo> FunnyMan: found it /dev/sda2
[09:04] <xip> hi
[09:04] <toulouse> chico
[09:04] <mitrovarr> Acidic':  Did that menu.lst change work?
[09:04] <elyon> mitrovarr - what DTP do you use in Windows?
[09:04] <chico> yes
[09:04] <Bepo> FunnyMan: its actually seen in the System<Admin<Disks
[09:04] <chico> i am here
[09:04] <xip> I'm using an old ububtu but gaim keeps crashing whenever I sign into msn and dont know how to fix/upgrade gaim can someone help me out?
[09:04] <toulouse> ok
[09:04] <chico> i am waiting for instruction
[09:04] <mitrovarr> elyon:  I don't use anything anymore, but when I did, it was Quark.
[09:04] <FunnyMan3595> Bepo: *nods*
[09:04] <toulouse> go to apps>add/remove
[09:04] <n2diy> elyon: use the tap key for auto-completion.
[09:04] <elyon> mitrovarr - hmm... the only thing I ever used in Windows was MS Pub...
[09:05] <chico> ok
[09:05] <n2diy> tap/tab
[09:05] <FunnyMan3595> Bepo: Was about to direct you there, but that is... hiding in edgy.  O.o
[09:05] <chico> what do you want me to add or remove
[09:05] <FunnyMan3595> Bepo: For me, at least.  *glowers*
[09:05] <toulouse> chico: then type in "alsa" in the search and hit enter
[09:05] <elyon> n2diy, Awesome!  Thanks... so simply, yet I was sitting here typing everyone's name :)
[09:05] <mitrovarr> elyon:  MS Pub was not considered even up to the level of other commercial windows DTPs when I worked in that field, and I don't know of any OSS equivilent to that, even.
[09:05] <Bepo> FunnyMan: haha, so what to do next?
[09:05] <n2diy> elyon: yep that is a PITA.
[09:05] <elyon> mitrovarr, yeah, I wasn't exactly using it for professional reasons.  But I've heard Scribus is quite good.
[09:06] <toulouse> chico: there will be a "gnome alsa mixer" thingybob, click that
[09:06] <chico> no return
[09:06] <toulouse> oh
[09:06] <FunnyMan3595> Bepo: Okay, the one I've got is /dev/hda2, which maps to (hd0,1).  Assuming I understand the naming convention, that should make yours (sd0,1)
[09:06] <toulouse> hmmm..
[09:06] <elyon> mitrovarr, as far as Photoshop goes, apparently Gimp is getting closer to that level all the time.  And with GimpShop (something I'm struggling to install) it supposedly mimicks the PhotoShop environment pretty well.
[09:06] <Gruppy> Whats changed between 5.10 and 6.10 to geld   video detection?
[09:06] <mitrovarr> elyon:  I'll check it out.  I would LIKE to discover an OSS DTP that was worthwhile, I just haven't.
[09:06] <nicholaspaul> hey mitrovarr , you still up ;) ?
[09:06] <FunnyMan3595> So make that change in what I'm about to pastebin, and add that on to the very bottom of your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[09:07] <mitrovarr> elyon:  No, it doesn't.  The interface, even with gimpshop, makes me want to drive an icepick into my temple.
[09:07] <Gruppy> virtaul serrver is going interlaced in vga mode
[09:07] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr:  i dunno if you know anything about ownerships, but you were so helpful before :D
[09:07] <cmt^^> FunnyMan3595 - got it to work!
[09:07] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  file ownerships?   A little bit.
[09:07] <elyon> mitrovarr, well, that would be unfortunate ;)
[09:07] <FunnyMan3595> Bepo: You can change the comment too, for clarity.  :)
[09:07] <toulouse> chico: have you tried closing any music related programs and then tried restarting firefox?
[09:07] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: *cheers and applauds*
[09:07] <chico> i will try it ok
[09:07] <mitrovarr> elyon:  the GIMP interface is utterly humiliated even by something like Paint Shop Pro.  It's just terrible.
[09:07] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: Please enlighten us for posterity.
[09:07] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr: i messed up my Home folder and cant login. How do i set the home folder to default owner (says 'permission denied' )
[09:08] <elyon> mitrovarr, I'll be honest, though.  Using The Gimp drives me nuts too because that whole multiple window interface is the stupid fricken thing I've ever heard of.
[09:08] <cmt^^> FunnyMan3595 - find -name "*.avi" -exec mv \{} . \;
[09:08] <cmt^^> such.
[09:08] <toulouse> my linux can only run one sound program at once "dont know why tho"
[09:08] <VMT2007> dmesg | grep ndiswrapper shows a bunch of errors
[09:08] <Bepo> FunnyMan: thanks soorry wheres the pastebin?
[09:08] <chico> not working
[09:08] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  What did you do, exactly?  Changing it isn't hard but it might not be the right solution.
[09:08] <VMT2007> i used a million different versions of the same driver
[09:08] <toulouse> chico: !sound
[09:08] <mitrovarr> elyon:  That's the most obvious and egregious problem, but there's a lot else wrong with it too.
[09:08] <toulouse> !sound
[09:08] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:09] <FunnyMan3595> Bepo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/320/
[09:09] <chico> lol
[09:09] <chico> it is just weird
[09:09] <FunnyMan3595> Bepo: Had to go put it up.  :)
[09:09] <chico> coz earlier it works the other way around
[09:09] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr I was trying to copy files with samba, and via ssh changed permissions on ~/  I cant remember exactly to what tho.
[09:09] <toulouse> chico: i know, i had a shiite load of trouble with my sound after i plugged in a usb headset
[09:09] <chico> that is, i can listen to Youtube while watching, but not play the audiocd
[09:09] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr: it was either chown or chmod
[09:09] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  Ah.
[09:09] <FunnyMan3595> Bepo: The real "magic words" there are the root and chainloader line.  Root says "Use this file system", chainloader says, "And let it boot itself!"
[09:10] <chico> i am guessing that probably, by tomorrow it will work again
[09:10] <Wavesonics> I'm having some trouble with Beryl and FireGL drivers, anyone here think they can help me?
[09:10] <toulouse> chico: lol you never know with linux
[09:11] <Bepo> FunnyMan: do i put it at the very botthem after "### End Debian Automagic kernels list" ?
[09:11] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  well, if you only changed the ownership of your home directory, go to /home and 'sudo chown nicholaspaul nicholaspaul'.   Or whatever your user name was.  I think that's what to do, but would someone else confirm?
[09:11] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr:  i can do that with Failsafe Terminal?
[09:11] <cmt^^> FunnyMan3595 - wtc.. Now it seems it's not working again
[09:12] <xi1> Im not used to ubuntu how can I upgrade gaim ... since it seems to crash everytime I sign onto msn
[09:12] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  I certainly think so.
[09:12] <FunnyMan3595> Bepo: Yup!
[09:12] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: *feels your pain*
[09:12] <toulouse> xil: it just knows that it's open source and microshaft sucks, therefore it wont let you connect to msn (seriously i dont know why tho)
[09:13] <xi1> hm?
[09:13] <Bepo> FunnyMan: its definitely missing though: the windows part that is
[09:13] <kittyguy> protocol changes maybe?
[09:13] <FunnyMan3595> cmt^^: Could be worse.  You could have just proudly shown it to your grader/boss/target audience.
[09:13] <Bepo> Funnyman: crossing fingers ><
[09:13] <FunnyMan3595> Bepo: Good luck!
[09:13] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  you can use ls -l to see file permissions and ownership, if you want to check your permissions after that.
[09:13] <Bepo> FunnyMan: I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!
[09:14] <n2diy> ! love
[09:14] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[09:14] <owh> ROTFL
[09:14] <n2diy> ?
[09:14] <nn> ice weasels rock
[09:14] <Bepo> FunnyMan: lol thank you thank you soooo much. I can finally sleep...hahaha
[09:14] <mitrovarr> That must be why ubotu never does anything but hang out on this channel - it's traumatized.
[09:14] <nn> Anyone have rt2500 card? (linksys)
[09:14] <Gruppy> 6.10    how do you get it into text mode to set a screen size??
[09:14] <FunnyMan3595> Bepo: *smiles*  You're welcome, glad I could help.
[09:14] <nn> mitrovarr: or a bot :)
[09:14] <n2diy> Bepo: congrats.
[09:14] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr: thx (running to check...)
[09:15] <nn>           collisions:11580 txqueuelen:1000
[09:15] <nn>           RX bytes:354617463 (338.1 MiB)  TX bytes:34972270 (33.3 MiB)
[09:15] <Bepo> Thanks!
[09:15] <levander> Does anyone know how to record flash flv movies from the web?
[09:15] <Bepo> :)
[09:15] <nn> all hell is happen with this card
[09:15] <mitrovarr> nn:  It knows far too much about love to be a bot.
[09:15] <FunnyMan3595> n2diy: Cute macro, have to remember that.
[09:15] <nn> mitrovarr: my bot loved people :P
[09:15] <mitrovarr> nn:  Sounds like a good way to get a computer virus.
[09:15] <nn> mitrovarr: in fact it was channel services
[09:15] <n2diy> FunnyMan3595: hey, I get bored sitting on the sidelines, so I play with the bot. :)
[09:15] <[nige] > hi all
[09:15] <nn> mitrovarr: but Smurf was friendly, unless your nick was "Cosmo"
[09:15] <kittyguy> what is gnome-bluez? bluetooth?
[09:16] <nn> then she would at a random probability deop, kick, kickban, or nick collide you
[09:16] <owh> For those bored ones: http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/26730.html
[09:16] <nn> mitrovarr: one of my first experiments in AI and IRC :)
[09:16] <[nige] > is there an easy way to backup cds to iso?
[09:16] <nn> she developed a dislike of 'cosmo'
[09:16] <nn> [nige] : yea, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso
[09:16] <nn> very simple
[09:16] <[nige] > nn, I will give it a go
[09:16] <dimitri> hi all, how can i check what my Internet address is? i connect to a router with firewall so when i type ifconfig i just get my lan address. thanks
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> dimitri: whatismyip.com
[09:17] <owh> dimitri: In what context do you need to know, that is, what do you need the information for?
[09:17] <FunnyMan3595> n2diy: I flabbergasted someone with it a while back.  They thanked the bot, so I sent !ubotu.  They pointed out they should still thank it, so I sent !thanks.  The reply was to the effect of "Does that bot have a response for EVERYTHING?"  The answer, apparently not.  It doesn't know anything about !kitchensink.
[09:18] <[nige] > hmmm
[09:18] <toulouse> someone got mad at me for trying something on accident with the bot
[09:18] <toulouse> i was like wtf does it matter
[09:18] <Gruppy> hey, is ubuntu 6.10's safemode  == text or low GUI ?? cos it goes interlaced either way
[09:18] <kittyguy> !gnome-bluez
[09:18] <n2diy> FunnyMan3595: hey, I talked to the bot a couple of times, before it was pointed out to me, it was a bot. :)
[09:18] <FunnyMan3595> toulouse: If you're trying to see what the bot knows, use /msg
[09:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-bluez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:18] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr: cani check one folder with ls -l?
[09:19] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  Sure, it'll list one file or folder.
[09:19] <FunnyMan3595> n2diy: *cackles*  I caught on from the name, and the fact that it kept replying right after someone went BANG.  Er... !
[09:19] <dimitri> owh, i got a job at a IT place, but they use Window$, so i want to ssh into my home pc from work. so ill need my IP every day before i leave, since its a dynamic IP
[09:19] <n2diy> !!
[09:19] <xi1> lol
[09:19] <nn> oh NOES
[09:19] <mitrovarr> dimitri:  I wonder if something like dyndns would help you
[09:19] <owh> dimitri: Not really.
[09:19] <nn> I found my ex on youtube
[09:19] <toulouse> nn: sucks
[09:19] <xi1> yeah dyndns should work for him
[09:19] <dark> hi
[09:19] <nn> toulouse: Its funny
[09:20] <nn> she has big Uh..yeas.
[09:20] <owh> dimitri: Of course you could just boot from a LiveCD :)
[09:20] <nn> and is dancing to a song
[09:20] <s34n> I just stuck in a 2nd harddrive with some LVM volumes. How do I discover and mount them in ubuntu?
[09:20] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr: i get a bunch of question marks where the 'dwrx---' should be
[09:20] <xi1> Static IPs for the win!
[09:20] <n2diy> FunnyMan3595: roger that, I've only been playing with IRC for a couple of weeks, so I wasn't expecting to be talking to bots.
[09:20] <nn> toulouse: like stupi :)
[09:20] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  Wow, odd.
[09:20] <toulouse> hey guys, if i download this iso of freebsd, it says the install is text only, will that be hard to do for a newb like me?
[09:21] <s34n> toulouse: no
[09:21] <levander> not necessarily hard just because its test
[09:21] <levander> text*
[09:21] <owh> toulouse: That depends on your ability to read :-)
[09:21] <toulouse> ok
[09:21] <toulouse> lol
[09:21] <FunnyMan3595> n2diy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA
[09:21] <dark> I would like to know what are the best audio drivers for an Centrino Duo tablet pc, because while the sound is working on ubuntu, the sound quality is the greatest while on my desktop is far better, and I know that my tablet can produce a better sound since Ive used it under windows, thanx for help !
[09:21] <Dasnipa`> n2diy, hehe 2 week irc newbie hehe
[09:21] <Gruppy> I wish Ubu supported text, video detection is so bad compared with XP
[09:21] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  Does it list the owner?  And who is it?
[09:21] <n2diy> toulouse: and how wel you know your system.
[09:21] <dimitri> owh, i dont think they will let me do that. they have their own in-house software that they use & its needs windows. i want to ssh into my home pc so i can carry on building my linuxfromscratch... which isnt going to good so far :(
[09:21] <owh> Gruppy: It does.
[09:22] <owh> dimitri: During office hours, hmm, who is your employer?
[09:22] <toulouse> n2diy: i know which partition i want to put it on, so i  guess im set right?
[09:22] <n2diy> Dasnipa`: yep, but having a lot of fun.
[09:22] <FunnyMan3595> n2diy: There was a variant of that which someone let loose on AIM or similar.  Most people didn't figure it out.
[09:22] <Gruppy> owh, no it doesn't, safe mode  tries vga and craps out
[09:22] <owh> toulouse: You're only set if you did a backup first, given that BSD uses a different partition naming scheme and you might make a mistake :-)
[09:22] <dimitri> mitrovarr, im looking at that. thanks :)
[09:22] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr: each line just says '?--------- ? ? ? ?       ? nick/foldername'
[09:22] <Dasnipa`> n2diy, yeah it sticks to ya... ive used irc since i was uh about 12, and im 22 now
[09:23] <n2diy> toulouse: you'll need to know your video card info, monitor info, etc...
[09:23] <toulouse> oh crap, never mind guys
[09:23] <toulouse> i like the linux live cd idea
[09:23] <toulouse> where i pop in a cd and off it goes to install where i tell it
[09:23] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr: and when i cd nick, it says 'permission denied'.
[09:23] <dimitri> owh, its iBurst >>> www.iburst.co.za <<< its in South Africa
[09:23] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul: Are you doing ls -l in /home
[09:24] <n2diy> FunnyMan3595: roger eliza.
[09:24] <owh> Gruppy: There is a text mode installer for Ubuntu AFAIK, indeed, I suspect that you can select it from the LiveCD startup screen. Alternatively you might consider trying the alternate install CD.
[09:24] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr: oh i guess that would help, hey... ok, NOW i get 'drw-r--r-- 21 nick 4096 20070102 19:04 nick'
[09:24] <n2diy> Dasnipa`: I wish I'd know about this when you where twelve! :)
[09:24] <SurfnKid> is there a command
[09:24] <Gruppy> F4   -startup screen only gives VGA and higher
[09:24] <SurfnKid> to get 10 files from an index website
[09:24] <n2diy> know/known
[09:25] <SurfnKid> instead of clicking on all of them??
[09:25] <SurfnKid> like wget?
[09:25] <owh> dimitri: I wasn't expecting an answer. You should think very hard about doing work at home during office hours. It may be the last work you do. Consider asking your employer to allow you do do it locally and learn from it.
[09:25] <owh> SurfnKid: Yes, wget, run the command man wget and you will find out what you need.
[09:26] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  Heh.   Well, ownership is right.  Permissions are a bit odd, but I don't know if you set those that way on purpose for security.  I think mine are 755, but I could be wrong.
[09:26] <dimitri> owh, i know what you mean, but i might be working a grave yard shift, from 11pm to 7am & none of the bosses will be in so i think i can get away with it
[09:26] <dimitri> ill have to see how it goes
[09:26] <nn> i learned some engrish today
[09:26] <Dasnipa`> n2diy, well back in those days i was playing the original half-life lol the TFC mod so i was introduced to irc thru that it took me awhile to transfer to linux and to a server like this one
[09:26] <nn> On phone, by power of gecko, i enquire  youtube for wonders!
[09:26] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr: no, this is a brand new system, and i dont worry about security How can i change it back ?
[09:27] <owh> dimitri: Consider the fact that you're online right now, you're talking on IRC and this session is likely logged in many places. Perhaps permission would be a smart move on your part.
[09:27] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  chmod 755 nick
[09:27] <n2diy> Dasnipa`: roger that, I came here looking for an answer, and found I could give some too, that was cool.
[09:27] <toulouse> ok guys, im off to bed, im downloading a dreamlinux iso, so i'll let it down-a-away as i saw logs, report back to yall as to how cool it is compared to ubuntu
[09:27] <nn> you can chmod nicks?
[09:27] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr: well i can cd to the folder now...
[09:27] <SurfnKid> owh, so if i have a website http://x.com how would i download 10 files from there without telling it to, from a VT
[09:27] <Wavesonics> I'm having some trouble with Beryl and my FireGL drivers, it's saying that a certain GL extension is missing "beryl: glXBindTexImageEXT is missing" any 1 know about this?
[09:27] <SurfnKid> would you know/
[09:28] <Gruppy> dimitri,   take care some places run IDS (SNORT/WireSHark) and/or Proxys  that'll pick up you SSH'ing and flag it
[09:28] <SurfnKid> if not ill read up on it
[09:28] <nn> Gruppy: thats why i have GPRS and a usb modem cable for my phone ;)
[09:28] <owh> SurfnKid: I know the answer, but I'm not a free oracle. You are here to learn. I suggested a learning path. That's all I'll do.
[09:28] <Dasnipa`> n2diy, thats what its all about. you give help when ya can and then when ya need help then maybe someone else will know
[09:28] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  You can just leave it if you want and see if it works.  I don't know if the files in a folder inherit its permissions or not.
[09:28] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr: i think that did the trick. :D
[09:29] <nn> of course, i really could IRC nicely from my phone if i port gtk :)
[09:29] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr:  oh - is ther ea recursive option?
[09:29] <toulouse> oh crap guys i have a problem: that iso im downloading is 702 mb's instead of 700 (the size of my cd ima burn it onto) what should i do???
[09:29] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  for files, certainly.
[09:29] <n2diy> Dasnipa`: yep, open source is cool.
[09:29] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  it's -R
[09:29] <owh> nn: Which phone, I'm still working up to running Linux on my Treo 650 :-)
[09:29] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr:  ahh...
[09:29] <SurfnKid> owh, I suggested wget look back
[09:29] <n2diy> who's playing with gprs?
[09:29] <dimitri> Gruppy, is there a way for me to check that once i got to work to morrow? or am i pushing my luck here :)
[09:29] <SurfnKid> you answered later
[09:29] <SurfnKid> pffft
[09:29] <nn> owh: one i'm building
[09:29] <SurfnKid> thanks anyway
[09:30] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr: well i gave it a shot.
[09:30] <owh> SurfnKid: I suggested the 'man wget' command.
[09:30] <nn> n2diy: I do GPRS from an old ass motorola v220 on tmobile often
[09:30] <toulouse> owh: there is linux for treo's already i believe
[09:30] <Dasnipa`> n2diy, it is also cool when you are able to contribute to a project... just recently i made my first patch for the Gaim project... pretty cool thing
[09:30] <SurfnKid> i was already reading that
[09:30] <nicholaspaul> i have to say that I'm LOVING XFCE Edgy - its amazing!
[09:30] <nn> owh: I busted a few 650's
[09:30] <SurfnKid> i just needed a hint
[09:30] <SurfnKid> but that is all right
[09:30] <SurfnKid> thanks anyway
[09:30] <SurfnKid> :)
[09:30] <toulouse> hey guys, i have a 702 mb iso i need to get onto a 700mb disk
[09:30] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  No luck?
[09:30] <toulouse> what should i do
[09:30] <n2diy> nn: are you using Xastir?
[09:30] <nn> toulouse: overburn
[09:30] <Dasnipa`> toulouse, overburn
[09:30] <toulouse> ok
[09:30] <owh> SurfnKid: Then the next step is a for; done loop with an seq command :-)
[09:30] <toulouse> in k3b
[09:30] <nn> n2diy: Xastir?
[09:30] <toulouse> ?
[09:30] <nn> wtf's that?
[09:30] <n2diy> Dasnipa`: roger that.
[09:30] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr: I'm in :) woohoo!!
[09:30] <nicholaspaul> Thanks mitrovarr :)
[09:31] <nn> n2diy: that's for APRS, not GPRS
[09:31] <n2diy> nn: check it out in Synaptic.
[09:31] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  Sweet!  I'd try modifying a file in your home directory real fast to make sure it'll write; just make a new text doc or something.
[09:31] <nn> absolutely unreleated
[09:31] <toulouse> !overburn
[09:31] <n2diy> nn: what is the difference?
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about overburn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr:  ok
[09:31] <Gruppy> dimitri  ASK THE ADMIN,   the good stuff like WIRESHARP runs passively and unless you fingerprint the network and other suspicious behavour you won't pick it up
[09:31] <nn> n2diy: GPRS is General Packet Radio Service, an extension to the GSM system for transporting low-rate (up to 84kbit/sec i believe) data over existing GSM infrastructure
[09:32] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr: yea, works fine!
[09:32] <owh> nn: You're building a phone? I think I don't understand what you're saying :0)
[09:32] <nn> APRS is ham radio stuff
[09:32] <ademan> how can i rip the audio from a video file?  (in this case avi if that matters) can mencode do it?
[09:32] <mitrovarr> nicholaspaul:  Glad to help!
[09:32] <Gruppy> if you ask the site admin, they will yes/no  ,  if you go ahead, not realising the answers No by default,  you could lose your job and get your home box seized in an IP lawsuit
[09:32] <nn> owh: i am building phone
[09:32] <n2diy> nn: ah, I should have known that, I'm a Ham.
[09:32] <nicholaspaul> mitrovarr: Thanks again... now i need to sleep.Busy day tomorrow! Gnite!
[09:32] <nn> owh: design and outsource to .jp for build :)
[09:32] <nn> then make money and buy japanese wife.... ahhhh sooo beautiful
[09:33] <owh> nn: That must be an interesting project.
[09:33] <paolo> Hi. in wich dirs can I find the kernel source? thnks
[09:33] <nn> owh: Oh yes
[09:33] <mitrovarr> man
[09:33] <doctormo> hey all, I'm looking for a program where is the best place to ask?
[09:33] <n2diy> ! kernel
[09:33] <nn> owh: right now im playign with various evaluation boards for the chipsets i want
[09:33] <owh> nn: Can you talk about specifics or not?
[09:33] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:33] <mitrovarr> I've been working on beryl and compiz all day and STILL neither works.  Gah.
[09:33] <nn> Looks like it's going to be a dual Xscale :)
[09:34] <Wavesonics> I just installed the FireGL drivers as dual head, how do I revert to single monitor?
[09:34] <owh> nn: Linux based, or proprietary?
[09:34] <nn> second processor is a media processor, normally kept in an inactive state until needed then quickly brought to required speed
[09:34] <nn> owh: bsd
[09:34] <owh> Hmm
[09:34] <nn> as parts of the kernel drivers have to be closed source
[09:34] <nn> but the rest, very open :)
[09:34] <owh> nn: GSM/CDMA/HCDMA ?
[09:35] <nn> owh: GSM/EDGE
[09:35] <SuPeRhAm> http://bbswebsite.redirectme.net/upload/xorg.conf - can someone please tell me what i did wrong with setting up ati drivers for my X800 GTO? :( please
[09:35] <n2diy> ! ati
[09:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:35] <nn> http://www.arcom.com/devkit-linux-pxa270-zeus.htm that's actually what i'm doing a fair bit of the software dev on
[09:36] <nn> owh: it's not gonna ever make to market im sure, its a hobby project, mainly bc im irritated by existing phones
[09:36] <nn> and want something that can beat them up and show me the wonders of internet porn while away from hom
[09:36] <nn> home
[09:36] <SuPeRhAm> n2diy, ive looked at that already, it got me in a worse spot
[09:37] <nn> owh: but isnt that the point of all smart phones?
[09:37] <mitrovarr> anyone have a good troubleshooting guide for compiz/beryl?
[09:37] <n2diy> SuPeRhAm: Sorry to hear that, otherwise I can't help.
[09:37] <owh> nn: :-)
[09:37] <SuPeRhAm> its ok, maybe one of the other nice bright ppl in here can help :D
[09:37] <mitrovarr> anyone have beryl or compiz going on a nvidia 8800?
[09:37] <n2diy> SuPeRhAm: yep, good luck.
[09:38] <nn> owh: it's a very slow process, balancing horsepower and fuel usage, ya know?
[09:38] <nn> I compare it to building a 70's muscle car from parts at the junkyard.. anyone with enough time and persistance can certainly do it.. However, is it going to be worth it to you when you're done?
[09:38] <owh> nn: On a side note, I have carried a 6310i with a Clie for many years and only recently (a year or so ago) started with a Treo 650. For me the pay-off was having ssh, web, email, addresses and diary in one place, but it's still very poorly integrated.
[09:38] <nn> To me, the
[09:39] <marcus_> Hi. I'm still frustrated about gnome and kde mixing together. Is having ubuntu and kubuntu in different instances the only way to keep this from happening?
[09:39] <nn> the treo 650 irritates me because it's fragile and PalmOS point blank sucks
[09:39] <mitrovarr> SuPeRhAm:  What's wrong?  Will X not let you in at all?  No 3d accel?
[09:39] <nn> as much as i hate amy form of windows, i have to say it beats palmos by many orders of magnitude
[09:39] <owh> nn: The later versions of PalmOS do indeed and I agree about the fragility of the Treo.
[09:40] <owh> nn: Not enough to convince me yet.
[09:40] <xi1> O_o
[09:40] <xi1> "You have5568messages"
[09:40] <nn> after how many years and they still fail to add a multitasking mechanism?
[09:40] <xi1> damnit
[09:40] <nn> I find it offensive, honestly
[09:40] <SuPeRhAm> mitrovarr, i dont have 3D accel, i go into the ati control pannel and it says im still using messa (indirect)
[09:40] <nn> I paid 450$ for one when they first came out
[09:40] <owh> nn: I agree with you there.
[09:41] <nn> broke 2 of them and got screwed because the screen broke on the second one
[09:41] <s34n> how do you detect and mount lvm volumes?
[09:41] <nn> cost 100$ to replace first one, second i was SOL
[09:41] <owh> nn: So, in this development of yours, are you doing this on your lonesome, or with a team.
[09:41] <spasti> i hate ubuntu
[09:41] <nn> owh: just a few friends
[09:41] <nn> spasti: well it hates you, go die.
[09:41] <mitrovarr> SuPeRhAm:  Your Device and Monitor lines in your screen section don't match your Device and Monitor lines elsewhere; I think they're supposed to.
[09:41] <nn> owh: mainly we're cool with dropping like 1500$ into a very unique device  :)
[09:42] <mitrovarr> SuPeRhAm:  Oh, nevermind, you have two screen sections
[09:42] <nn> owh: something that we can sport and everyone be like "Wow, that's sooo cool. i want one" "Sorry dude, only 5 exist"
[09:42] <n2diy> spasti: why?
[09:42] <SuPeRhAm> yeh i have dual screens
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> Don't feed it n2diy ...
[09:42] <Wavesonics> I installed the fglxr drivers for ATI and I ran: fglrxinfo to check the install and the info is wrong
[09:43] <mitrovarr> SuPeRhAm:  Ah.  I feel silly for not noticing that yet.
[09:43] <n2diy> tonyyarusso: 10-4
[09:43] <SuPeRhAm> np :)
[09:43] <Wavesonics> my OpenGL vendor string should say ATI but instead it says:  Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[09:43] <Wavesonics> how can I fix this?
[09:43] <owh> nn: Well, I know a surface mount guy with a plant locally, so if this comes off, you may be able to build more than 5 :-)
[09:44] <mitrovarr> SuPeRhAm:  I wish I could help, but I haven't messed with dual screens on ATI systems.  I only spoke up because I noticed the odd screen config.
[09:45] <spasti> n2diy:it's hard to use
[09:45] <owh> nn: Any interest in making a dual mode GSM/CDMA hand-set?
[09:45] <SuPeRhAm> mitrovarr thnk you for ur time :)
[09:45] <nn> owh: that'd be awesome but very difficult im sure
[09:45] <nn> owh: problem as is lies in stuffing everything on the board
[09:45] <Wavesonics> hey whats the command to rebuild my xorg.conf if i totally fuck it?
[09:45] <n2diy> spasti: so was learning how to walk!?
[09:45] <nn> owh: we're still in the experimenting with chipsets we want phase
[09:45] <owh> nn: Well, I'm guessing that the GSM module is just a fancy modem, and ditto for the CDMA module.
[09:46] <owh> nn: I understand what you're saying :-)
[09:46] <nn> owh: basically.. I really want to do SIP over data :)
[09:46] <SuPeRhAm>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg - Wavesonics
[09:46] <nn> owh: that way you can continue to say browse while on the phone
[09:46] <Q_Continuum> Where does Firefox store its profiles in Ubuntu?
[09:46] <owh> nn: So, now it would be nice if it did 802.xx as well :0-)
[09:46] <Wavesonics> both CDMA and GSM are protocols, not hardware necessarily
[09:46] <nn> then start kissing tmobile's ass for coverage
[09:46] <userundefine> ~/.firefox/profiles
[09:47] <nn> Wavesonics: 99% of the time, they're handled in hardware simple because of IP licensing
[09:47] <n2diy> Q_Continuum: look in ~/.mozzila-firefox
[09:47] <Wavesonics> thats superham
[09:47] <Q_Continuum> Thanks, found it - ~/.mozilla/firefox/
[09:48] <nn> Wavesonics: you can buy a little black chip that speaks them much cheaper than specs or source :)
[09:48] <nn> anyone with interest in them is surely a competitor to the big players who control the standards
[09:48] <owh> Wavesonics: It reminds me a little of the Macintosh 660AV which had a co-processor capable of generating modem frequencies in software, the idea being that when the protocol got updated, you installed a new piece of software and it would do the new speed. The problem was that it never really worked.
[09:48] <nn> owh: sounds like a winmodem :P
[09:49] <owh> nn: In tone yes, in spirit no.
[09:49] <mitrovarr> ugh
[09:49] <mitrovarr> I spent all day trying to make beryl/compiz work on a 8800, now I found out they just DON'T
[09:49] <nn> Oh now im pissed off
[09:49] <owh> nn: I came across some Siemens GSM modules a while back, while I was looking for some gear to do satellite positioning.
[09:50] <nn> owh: yea, they exist
[09:50] <nn> Who dares cover sublime and SUCK doing it?!
[09:50] <owh> Huh?
[09:50] <nn> that band might be thankful i live in NYC not seattle
[09:50] <nn> or i'd smack every member of the band
[09:50] <owh> Ah
[09:50] <nn> owh: oh, some offensive sucky cover on youtube
[09:50] <owh> nn: You could of course not download it :-)
[09:50] <nn> one of my coolest childhood memories was meeting sublime
[09:51] <nn> I was like 10
[09:51] <Wavesonics> oh god... im busy destroying my xorg.conf....
[09:51] <dcfoste> anybody know how to fix a NAT problem with azureus on ubuntu 6.1?
[09:51] <Wavesonics> i just want fdlrx to work :(
[09:51] <Wavesonics> cross your fingures, it's XServer restart time ;)
[09:52] <FliG> Ok my sound works on Ubuntu but i cant use my mic
[09:52] <FliG> can anyone helps me
[09:52] <n2diy> How do I change my keyboard layout in a terminal, not through X?
[09:52] <mypapitfx> FliG: i had the same problem too
[09:52] <mypapitfx> :(
[09:52] <fnf> Will anyone tell me how to disable nautilus to be the desktop manager ?
[09:53] <FliG> i am trying to talk on teamspeak/ventrilo and no one can hear me but i can hear them
[09:53] <FliG> anyone got a fix?
[09:53] <n2diy> fnf: nautilus is a file manager.
[09:54] <fnf> n2diy: Sure, but it doesn manage desktop icons too, I personally don't use any of these icons so it's better not to let them hog the system resources.
[09:54] <dimitri> i am trying to ssh into my pc from my dad's (all using ubuntu) i have no problem using the lan IP but it refuses the internet IP. i typed ssh username@internetIP ... am i supposed to specify a port or open a port in my router?
[09:54] <SurfnKid> owh, thanks for the encouragement
[09:55] <SurfnKid> got it
[09:55] <owh> SurfnKid: Did you figure it out?
[09:55] <SurfnKid> :)
[09:55] <n2diy> dimitri: check router port forwarding
[09:55] <owh> SurfnKid: I wasn't trying to be a PITA.
[09:55] <fnf> n2diy: Normally nautilus runs all the time, even without any file browser window openning.
[09:55] <n2diy> fnf: ok, so maybe you don't want X to run at all?
[09:55] <SurfnKid> owh, just needed to look some more but the man file was huge
[09:56] <SurfnKid> but it was worth it, instead of being told, like you said we're all here to learn
[09:56] <SurfnKid> :)
[09:56] <SurfnKid> ok gotta sleep now nite
[09:56] <nn> ENOSLEEP? :)
[09:56] <n2diy> ! sleep
[09:56] <SurfnKid> :P
[09:56] <fnf> n2diy: Probably if not for Epiphany/Firefox :)
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sleep - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <n2diy> fnf: not familiar with Epiphany but you'll need X for Firefox.
[09:59] <Merijn> hi, can anyone help me with changing the refresh rate of x?
[09:59] <fnf> n2diy: I mean I wouldn't be running X if I don't use Firefox for browsing :-P so I turned off many eyecandy features for smoother experiences.
[10:00] <n2diy> fnf:  roger that. Don't know what else to tell you.
[10:00] <fnf> n2diy: There's a few people managed to disable nautilus's icon managing features here. They don't seem to be online though.
[10:00] <n2diy> Merijn: why do you want to do that, and how well do you know your system?
[10:00] <fnf> n2diy: Thanks anyway.
[10:01] <Merijn> i know my system quite well
[10:01] <mitrovarr> woohoo!  Right after I found that thing that said it didn't work at all on 8800, I found a fix!
[10:01] <Merijn> i want to do that because I'd like to fiddle around with the live cd
[10:01] <mitrovarr> beryl on a 8800gts!  yay!
[10:01] <Merijn> but can't boot it since my panel goes out of sync
[10:01] <n2diy> Merijn: do you know the specs for your monitors h and v sync?
[10:02] <erUSUL> !fixres | Merijn
[10:02] <ubotu> Merijn: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:02] <Merijn> not by heart, i've been trying from this post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299810&highlight=2007fp
[10:02] <Merijn> I have the same panel as this guy
[10:03] <cmt^^> How come my scripts won't run? The bash says "Command not found" although my script-dir is in the path and everything
[10:04] <n2diy> Merijn: include my nick in your replies, or they won't get highlighted. You need to know that stuff to configure X.
[10:04] <erUSUL> cmt^^: have you made them executable? 'chamod +x script.sh'
[10:05] <Wavesonics> I really could use some help with my ATI drivers
[10:05] <n2diy> ! ati
[10:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:05] <Wavesonics> right, well I installed them, and configured them, but the OpenGL implementation i still set to mesa
[10:06] <nn> if i can stop drooling, we'll be all good
[10:06] <Merijn> n2diy i'm looking up the specs now
[10:06] <FliG> could anyone help?
[10:06] <n2diy> Merijn: ok, and you'll need the make, and model of your video card, and how much ram it has onboard.
[10:06] <FliG> i have Device Description	Type
[10:06] <FliG> SiS 7012 Audio Device	PCI
[10:07] <n2diy> ! enter | FliG:
[10:07] <ubotu> FliG:: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:07] <Tajmox> How do I share internet connection with my networked ubuntu computer?  I already got vnc, nfs, ftp, etc working.  But no internet =\   Where do I start?
[10:08] <FliG> weird
[10:08] <FliG> was ur internet pluged in when u installed
[10:08] <FliG> ubuntu
[10:08] <FliG> cause i installed mine just today and i already had internet when i got it installed
[10:08] <Tajmox> Flig, I'm networking 2 ubuntu computers
[10:09] <FliG> ahh
[10:09] <Tajmox> I want the other to get internet from this one.   Like Internet Connection Sharing
[10:09] <harp> I need a mp3 player. What is the player you suggest me?
[10:09] <crazy_bus> How do you open up a folder to edit the gnome menu, instead of going into "Edit menu"?
[10:09] <Tajmox> I saw firestarter has something, but it didn't seem to ...work
[10:09] <Vizio> im dual booting my laptop
[10:10] <Vizio> and have problems installing it from my cd
[10:10] <Tajmox> harp: ipod has tons of features
[10:10] <Vizio> the installer crashes
[10:10] <harp> Tajmox thx I'll try it
[10:10] <Tajmox> Anyone know how to share internet connection via ethernet?
[10:11] <n2diy> Tajmox: VNC?
[10:11] <Tajmox> eth0: 192.168.0.2 is this computer (getting wifi internet) and 192.168.0.3 wants internet
[10:11] <Merijn> n2diy I have my specs, I tried editting xorg.conf before but I probably did something wrong
[10:11] <Tajmox> n2diy: i can vnc to the other computer, yes
[10:11] <harp> Tajmox I think you should install and config gateway
[10:12] <Tajmox> gateway?  sounds good =] 
[10:12] <FliG> I have a SiS 7012 Audio Device and i can hear people but my microphone doesnt work, can anyone help?
[10:12] <n2diy> Merijn: so you set everything up according to spec, and it still doesn't work. Hmmm?
[10:12] <levander> Can mplayer play swf or flv files?
[10:12] <aN1> levander nope for sure
[10:12] <Merijn> n2diy I prolly configured xorg.conf wrong
[10:12] <Tajmox> levander that would be cool
[10:12] <n2diy> Tajmox: ok, your farther along then I've ever been, good luck.
[10:12] <Merijn> n2diy i tried adding a modeline, but I might have done that wrong
[10:13] <n2diy> ! modeline
[10:13] <ubotu> A Modeline is a configuration line in the X server configuration file that provides information about a connected computer monitor or television and how to drive it at a specified display resolution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFree86_Modeline for more details. Here is 2 links to generate modelines which fit your monitor: http://www.bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/ and http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[10:13] <Tajmox> n2diy: i also set up sambafs and nfs and ftp server on it, works great locally but it cant surf the web
[10:13] <Merijn> n2diy I tried one of those
[10:13] <levander> Tajmox: aN1: I'm wanting to capture an FLV file off the web, any way to do it on Linux?
[10:13] <appen> How do you get ubuntu to connect to a NT domain name?
[10:13] <Merijn> n2diy but I think I've put it at the wrong place in xorg.conf
[10:13] <Tajmox> levander: look in your cache directory?
[10:13] <n2diy> Merijn: ok, I'm out of tricks here.
[10:14] <Tajmox> levander: then you can use some sort of converter program to make it viewable in mplayer
[10:14] <Merijn> n2diy i'm looking at the website you just gave, giving it another try
[10:14] <aN1> levander sorri i don't no
[10:14] <n2diy> Merijn: good luck.
[10:15] <Merijn> n2diy tx :) my panel can only do 60 for vertical refresh
[10:15] <Merijn> n2diy should I do VertRefresh 60-60 ?
[10:15] <appen> How do you get ubuntu to connect to a NT domain name?
[10:15] <Vizio> plz could anyone solve my problem
[10:15] <Flannel> appen: most likely via samba
[10:15] <HeathenDan> can i use a vfat partition to mount as /home?
[10:16] <n2diy> Merijn: yes, and for horz. stay at the low end of your spec.
[10:16] <Vizio> i need to boot the installer from aything other tahn cd
[10:16] <Tajmox> vizio: can it boot from another flavour of ubuntu?   maybe try burning the cd again?
[10:16] <Flannel> !install | Vizio, first link has plenty of options
[10:16] <ubotu> Vizio, first link has plenty of options: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:16] <Tajmox> vizio: is there an error message when you try to boot?
[10:16] <Vizio> something about gnome
[10:16] <aN1> levander just do a search for flv and youtube on forum
[10:17] <aN1> i think the easiest is to get videodownloader
[10:17] <aN1> an extenstion to ff
[10:17] <appen> Flannel: I installed Samba and Winbind
[10:17] <n2diy> Tajmox: you may have a router config. issue?
[10:18] <Flannel> Vizio: "something about gnome" doesn't tell us much.  However, if it's a GUI problem, there's one solution I can guarentee will work: using the Alternate CD instead of the Desktop CD
[10:18] <Tajmox> n2diy hmm im not using a router.
[10:18] <Merijn> n2diy can I just do startx when I've changed the xorg.conf file?
[10:18] <_aibot_> levander: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/download-and-watch-youtube-videos-from-linux-shell-prompt.html
[10:18] <tijn> how do i add an route? like route add 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.3.1
[10:18] <Tajmox> tijn ip forwarding
[10:18] <n2diy> Merjin: maybe, If that doesnt' work log out and back in again.
[10:19] <Merijn> n2diy you mean reboot?
[10:19] <Vizio2> sorry
[10:19] <tijn> Tajmox: ah so i should not use route but iptables?
[10:19] <n2diy> Tajmox: how are you connecting your boxes then, crossover cables?
[10:19] <a_linux_virgin> quick question: i'm trying to install ndiswrapper b/c the version on the cd i got from ubuntu is outdated and gave me an error when tryin to install my wireless driver... so im doing a 'make' and i get the error 'Cant't find kernel to build files in /lib/modules/2.6.15_23_386/build give the path to kernel build directory with KBUILD=<path> argument to make
[10:19] <aN1> Merijn, Log off and ctrl alt backspace
[10:19] <n2diy> Merjin: nope.
[10:19] <Vizio2> i cant boot from koroora either
[10:20] <elyon> Is it possible to switch between Gnome and KDE on the fly?  ... and still maintain all installed software/settings/etc.?
[10:20] <n2diy> Merjin: reboot is a windows fix, not a linux fix. ;)
[10:20] <SuPeRhAm> !find GL
[10:20] <Vizio2> maybe its got something to do with my cdrom drive
[10:20] <Merijn> n2diy so what then, there is nothing running at tty7 atm (so I assume X is gone)
[10:20] <ubotu> Found: aspell-gl-minimos, beagle, beagle-dev, debconf-english, eagle-usb-data (and 323 others)
[10:20] <Flannel> Vizio2: how are you burning the CDs?
[10:20] <SuPeRhAm> !find open-GL
[10:20] <levander> _aibot_: That script just uses mplayer.
[10:20] <Vizio2> yes
[10:20] <ubotu> Package/file open-gl does not exist in edgy
[10:20] <Vizio2> 2 times
[10:21] <SuPeRhAm> !find open GL
[10:21] <ubotu> Found: console-tools, dictionaries-common, libcurl3-openssl-dev, libopenais-dev, libopenais2 (and 313 others)
[10:21] <n2diy> Merjin: ok, so try startx.
[10:21] <Flannel> Vizio2: How?  full speed? or what?  4x is recommended.
[10:21] <Vizio2> verified checksum each of them
[10:21] <_aibot_> levander: it converts the video too
[10:21] <_aibot_> to an mpg
[10:21] <Merijn> n2diy monitor still goes out of sync :|
[10:21] <Vizio2> oh no
[10:21] <Vizio2> 8x
[10:21] <Vizio2> and thats not good i suppose?
[10:21] <fotoflo_> hmm why cant i watch a streaming video over vino?
[10:22] <n2diy> Merjin: is it still cooking, or did it error out and drop you back at the command prompt?
[10:22] <Flannel> Vizio2: depends on your burner.  You might try burning something at 4x.  I recommend the Ubuntu Alternate ISO.
[10:22] <Merijn> still cooking
[10:22] <Tajmox> n2diy yes crossover cables.   i've done it before in ubuntu but i ... forgot how
[10:22] <Merijn> n2diy still cooking
[10:22] <n2diy> Merjin: let her cook.
[10:23] <Vizio2> ive run the check cd thing
[10:23] <Vizio2> check integrity
[10:23] <n2diy> Tajmox: you didn't keep notes!? Bad Tajmox! :)
[10:23] <Vizio2> and it came out 0 checksums failed
[10:23] <Flannel> Vizio2: then it's not the CD, and 8x was fine.
[10:23] <Vizio2> yeah
[10:24] <Vizio2> everytime i boot the installer crashes
[10:24] <Vizio2> and the cd wont eject
[10:24] <cyphase> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Starting_Beryl_gracefully_in_Gnome
[10:25] <aN1> Don't ever run glxgear in beryl u will be sorri
[10:25] <Vizio2> koroora also crashes
[10:25] <Tajmox> n2diy im such a bad note-taker
[10:26] <n2diy> Tajmox: notes are an investment in your time, and they pay dividends in the future. But I bad doing them too.
[10:27] <przemek_>  #octave
[10:27] <Tajmox> i took nots but i got good and drunk one nite and formatted my partition, thinking i had backed everything up
[10:27] <Merijn> n2diy is there any way to find out what resolution / refresh rate X is running now?
[10:27] <n2diy> Tajmox: stuff happens! :) Been there, done that.
[10:28] <n2diy> Merijn: X is running!?
[10:28] <Merijn> yes
[10:28] <aN1> Merijin its in ur var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:28] <kraut> moin
[10:28] <Peebo> Woh ! I haven;t done IRC in years. Hello all.
[10:28] <n2diy> Merijn: I don't know, but who cares?
[10:29] <SuPeRhAm> n2diy, you still around
[10:29] <Merijn> n2diy i do, because my panel is still out of sync
[10:29] <Merijn> aN1 what should i look for?
[10:29] <Peebo> I'm new to Debian distros, how do you restart a service
[10:29] <n2diy> SuPeRhAm: Yes, but not for long.
[10:29] <n2diy> Merijn: So it isn't usable?
[10:29] <aN1> Merijin let me check
[10:29] <Merijn> n2diy yep
[10:29] <SuPeRhAm> ive got a screenshot of the ati control pannel
[10:30] <Merijn> n2diy when I switch to tty7 my panel goes out of sync
[10:30] <n2diy> Merijn: :/ I'm running out of tricks then.
[10:30] <ttheikkila>  About TV, HowTo get Airsat 2 digital dvb-t-receiver to function in 6.10?
[10:30] <Vizio2> so is there anyway i can do to boot linux installer from other than cd
[10:30] <SuPeRhAm> http://bbswebsite.redirectme.net/upload/
[10:30] <Merijn> n2diy hmmm :|
[10:30] <AlexC_> Hey guys
[10:30] <Merijn> aN1 there is a line in the log file which says something about V and H refresh which doesn't comply with what I've put in xorg.conf
[10:30] <AlexC_> with the latest updates for Edgy, Firefox will not open now
[10:31] <duh> whois duh
[10:31] <n2diy> Merijn: Does ctrl+alt + + or ctrl+alt + - help you?
[10:31] <Peebo> I'm new to Debian distros, how do you restart a service
[10:31] <Merijn> n2diy while at tty7 i assume?
[10:31] <aN1> Merijin the only thin i can think of is dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg
[10:32] <n2diy> Merijn: yep
[10:32] <aN1> and when u get to monitor
[10:32] <Merijn> n2diy yes it does!
[10:32] <aN1> set it with advanced options
[10:32] <n2diy> Merijn: Damn!
[10:32] <Merijn> n2diy though now I have tiles instead of pixels
[10:32] <Merijn> n2diy can I see or change anything from within X better?
[10:32] <Scouse> hey
[10:32] <AlexC_> hello
[10:33] <n2diy> Merijn: what version are you running?
[10:33] <keeganX> Has anyone ever heard of a FTC lock for an RCA TV
[10:33] <Merijn> aN1 so I should do dpkg-reconfigure xserver.org from command line?
[10:33] <SurfnKid> mm
[10:33] <aN1> yeah
[10:33] <aN1> then u have to restart
[10:33] <duh> whats a good program to rip mp3's from cds
[10:33] <duh> ?
[10:33] <Merijn> aN1 can't restart, I'm using the live cd :)
[10:34] <aN1> ok how about u change it
[10:34] <aN1> then do /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:34] <Merijn> n2diy dmn, actually not sure about dapper edgy
[10:34] <Merijn> n2diy trying to figure out
[10:34] <duh> ???????/
[10:34] <n2diy> Merijn: can you click on System-pref-screen resolution?
[10:35] <Merijn> n2diy just did
[10:35] <duh> whats a good program to rip mp3's from cds
[10:35] <aN1> duh go to ubuntuguide.org
[10:35] <aN1> they have all ur program needs coverd
[10:35] <Merijn> n2diy it's taking ages though
[10:36] <Merijn> n2diy bear with me :)
[10:36] <aN1> n2diy is da man!!
[10:36] <Peebo> Well thanx for nothing, I picked up what i needed    - /etc/init.d/name of service restart
[10:36] <n2diy> Merijn: let her cook. :)
[10:36] <aN1> Merijin wut u cookin?
[10:37] <AlexC_> Peebo: if someone doesn't know the anwser, they you wont get an anwser - doesn't mean were ignoring you. but I'm glad you got it sorted now =)
[10:37] <Merijn> aN1 tyring to access screen resolution thing from within X (tip from n2diy) I'll try your advice later
[10:37] <AlexC_> s/they/then
[10:37] <n2diy> aN1: you mean damned right? :)
[10:37] <aN1> hehe
[10:38] <Peebo> Someone typed the answer in another anser to someone else
[10:39] <Peebo> I just needed the syntax I have never used Debian based distro's before always been RedHat
[10:39] <duh> so get goobox to rip cds?
[10:40] <Merijn> sorry guys, I have to go (work)
[10:40] <aN1> merijn work sucks
[10:40] <gansinho> please, does anyone uses deskbar over there?
[10:40] <Merijn> i'll try some with the tips you gave me so far and maybe check back in later
[10:40] <aN1> call in sick : )
[10:40] <n2diy> ! work
[10:40] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[10:41] <Merijn> i actually like my job :)
[10:41] <Vizio2> no help i suppose?
[10:41] <Peebo> What is the best DVD ripper for duplicating DVD's
[10:41] <n2diy> Merijn: so take your box to work with you!
[10:41] <gansinho> Peebo, try K3B
[10:41] <duh> acidrip Peebo
[10:42] <Peebo> I have acidrip but will it do whole dvd's menus and all
[10:42] <aN1> Vizio2, i no ubuntu can be installed on usb
[10:42] <Merijn> n2diy i work at home, so it is here, just need the monitor for something else :)
[10:42] <aN1> so im pretty sure u can boot off dat
[10:42] <duh> what's the best cd ripping ?
[10:42] <Merijn> n2day does X have a vnc server running by default?
[10:42] <duh> goobox?
[10:42] <n2diy> Merijn: cool, so your box takes you to work! :)
[10:42] <erUSUL> duh: grip
[10:42] <gansinho> does anyone know how to activate google search in deskbar by any means?
[10:42] <Vizio2> my laptop cant reboot from usb
[10:42] <duh> how do i get that?
[10:43] <Merijn> n2diy something like that :)
[10:43] <n2diy> Merijn: roger that, gettin a little late here.
[10:44] <erUSUL> duh: synaptic?
[10:44] <erUSUL> !synaptic | duh
[10:44] <ubotu> duh: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[10:44] <Vizio2> is it possible to boot from an ntfs hd
[10:44] <Vizio2> just the installer
[10:44] <Vizio2> then i can install to another partition
[10:44] <gansinho> Peebo, try DVD shrink over wine, works fine here
[10:45] <Peebo> using wine defeats the purpose or having Linux
[10:45] <n2diy> ! enter | Vizio2
[10:45] <ubotu> Vizio2: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:45] <SurfnKid> !terminal
[10:45] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:45] <gansinho> Peebo, DVD shrink is open source
[10:45] <gansinho> Peebo, it just doesn't have a linux version
[10:45] <Peebo> It runs on Windoze
[10:46] <Tajmox> it runs good on wine i hear
[10:46] <gansinho> Works really good, I'm using here
[10:46] <Vizio2> one line, good
[10:46] <duh> does goobox do cddb?
[10:46] <Tajmox> hey what abouot burning dvd's?   I have mpegs and avi's i'd like to burn.  what's a good app?
[10:46] <Peebo> The idea here is to do away with Windoze. I run Linux native only
[10:47] <aN1> vizio2, i think u mite want to check out super grub
[10:47] <aN1> it install on floppy
[10:47] <gansinho> Peebo, I don't know any app that works like DVD shrink
[10:47] <aN1> i think u can boot usb then
[10:47] <Merijn> n2diy I've opened the screen resolution thing, I see it has the wrong resolution / refreshrate combination
[10:47] <Tajmox> peebo: you don't need windows to use wine.
[10:47] <Vizio2> i guess its grub for dos
[10:47] <Peebo> I know that, but its' the same thing to me.
[10:48] <Tajmox> vizio2 : vmware?
[10:48] <Tajmox> dosbox?
[10:48] <n2diy> Merijn: I thought you were going to work!? Anyway tweak it, and see if it plays.
[10:48] <aN1> lol installing ubuntu on vmware
[10:48] <vinboy> i have a wireless network at home, but I do not want to get into the fuss of setting up wireless card on my pc. Is there a component that will receive the wireless signal and connect to my LAN card on my pc?
[10:48] <Merijn> n2diy ssst! I am at work, but cheating a little (meanwhile someone on the phone) :p
[10:49] <Merijn> n2diy but I don't understand why it displays the wrong refresh rate, I can't change it here
[10:49] <elyon> how do I change the resolution used for the login manager screen?
[10:49] <Peebo> An ethernet to wireless adapter, woh !
[10:50] <ubuntu> [okpok
[10:50] <Tajmox> elyon : change the order in the bottom of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf       i think
[10:50] <Vizio> sorry i disconnected again
[10:50] <n2diy> Merijn: I don't either, which rate? Don't sweat the horz. rate, but keep the vert. rate as low as you can.
[10:50] <Merijn> n2diy i can only choose 65 for vert. rate, but I need 60
[10:50] <Merijn> n2diy i've put 60 in xorg.conf
[10:51] <linux1> hiya ppl trying to install ubuntu from alt cd ,setting it up on my intel raid ,but there is no device-mapper module loaded or when i try modprobe dm_mod it say there no module avilable ,where can i get this module from
[10:51] <n2diy> Merijn: I got that backwards, sweat the horz, and not the vertical.
[10:52] <Vizio> about this super grub
[10:52] <Merijn> n2diy it really seems the vertical rate is wrong
[10:53] <duh> bah i cant deal with linux no more. back to unix later
[10:53] <n2diy> Merijn: is your display scrolling bottom to top?
[10:53] <Merijn> can I easily start a VNC server when booted from the live cd?
[10:53] <Merijn> n2diy yes
[10:53] <LinTux>  If I install KDE or XFCE my video goes out of sync at login and the screen pages with mouse movement to the top or bottom along with side to side, anybody got any cures for this?
[10:53] <Merijn> n2diy and left to right :p
[10:54] <n2diy> Merijn: ok, something is messed up with both your v and h sync. When you made your changes, did you save the file?
[10:54] <Merijn> yes
[10:54] <Merijn> n2diy but i'll double check
[10:55] <n2diy> Merijn: yes, double check your settings.
[10:55] <Wavesonics> holy monkey brains my XServer and vid drivers are EFED
[10:55] <Wavesonics> i'm trying to use the wiki but things arent going well
[10:55] <Wavesonics> anyone here who can help?
[10:56] <n2diy> ! enter | Wavesonics
[10:56] <ubotu> Wavesonics: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:56] <Merijn> n2diy HorizSync 30-81
[10:56] <Wavesonics> sorry :/
[10:56] <Merijn> n2diy VertRefresh 60-60
[10:56] <n2diy> Merijn: ok, set both of them as low as you can.
[10:57] <Vizio> so is there anyone willing to help? i'm not gonna ask the same question again
[10:57] <Merijn> n2diy like horizsync 30-30 ?
[10:57] <n2diy> Merijn: yep
[10:57] <harrisony> !search super grub
[10:57] <ubotu> Found: recoveringgrub,grub,karamba,boot,lilo,sudo,bootfloppy,winkey,grubrepair,superkaramba
[10:58] <Merijn> how can I close X without rebooting?
[10:58] <beuno> Merijn: control + shift + backspace
[10:58] <Vizio> its me Vizio2
[10:58] <n2diy> Merijn: ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:58] <Merijn> tx
[10:58] <vrt> Merijn: stop the display manager, /etc/init.d/{gkx}dm stop
[10:58] <beuno> sorry, alt
[10:59] <NevroPus> does anyone here a asus laptop with a built in cam and can tell me how to make it work in ubuntu?
[10:59] <n2diy> beuno: go find your own problem! :)
[11:00] <beuno> n2diy: lol
[11:00] <Tajmox> NevroPus built in webcam?  that sucks
[11:00] <dibblego> !wifi
[11:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:00] <NevroPus> I know Tajmox :P
[11:00] <n2diy> beuno: I got a lot of time invested in this fix, and we are almost there, I think.
[11:01] <n2diy> beuno: :)
[11:01] <Merijn> n2diy still same problem, can't get it of 65 Hz
[11:01] <beuno> :|
[11:01] <n2diy> Merijn: of/off?
[11:01] <Merijn> n2diy off :)
[11:02] <n2diy> Merijn: And it is still scrolling?
[11:03] <n2diy> Merijn: ?
[11:03] <Merijn> n2diy wait, I just think we've had a miscommunication about scrolling
[11:03] <Merijn> n2diy you mean scrolling as in wrong refreshrate?
[11:03] <n2diy> Merijn: No, is it staying in place, or rolling off the screen?
[11:03] <Merijn> n2diy like desktop is 1600x1200, viewport is 800x600?
[11:04] <n2diy> Merijn: No, is it staying in place, or rolling off the screen?
[11:04] <Merijn> n2diy it's staying in place, but i do have to scroll to reach top and bottom
[11:04] <Merijn> aN1 dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg doens't work
[11:05] <Merijn> aN1 "package 'xserver.xorg' is not installed and no info is available
[11:05] <n2diy> Merijn: Ok, so the h sync problem is solved, play with ctrl+alt+ + or - to see if you can get want you want.
[11:05] <Tajmox> ctrl alt + disabled in ubuntu
[11:06] <Merijn> n2diy I still can't set the rigth refresh rate it the resolution I want
[11:06] <Tajmox> by default
[11:06] <n2diy> Tajmox: not here, using 6.06.
[11:06] <Merijn> n2diy I can only choose 65 Hz, and I need 60 Hz
[11:07] <n2diy> Merijn: what does ctrl+alt+ + do?
[11:08] <Tajmox> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:08] <Tajmox> not . its -
[11:08] <beuno> Merijn: it's:     sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:08] <beuno> ;D
[11:08] <n2diy> X is working, we don't need to re-configure it, I hope.
[11:08] <Merijn> aN1 tx
[11:09] <n2diy> Merijn: what does ctrl+alt+ + do?
[11:09] <Merijn> n2diy trying now
[11:09] <n2diy> Merijn: thank you.
[11:10] <Merijn> n2diy it just lowers the resolution
[11:11] <Merijn> which does work
[11:11] <n2diy> Merijn: what does ctrl+alt+ - do?
[11:11] <Merijn> but I'd liek to run at 1600x1200
[11:11] <linux1> hiya trying to install from alt cd for my raid setup ,having a few problem there does not seem to be any device-mapper modules load or one to load
[11:11] <Merijn> n2diy that make the resolution higher, but doesn't hcange the refresh rate
[11:11] <Merijn> n2diy problem is that as soon as X runs in 1600x1200 it chooses the wrong refresh rate
[11:11] <zax1> i have a regular home adsl connection, no firewalls, no proxy servers. but the talk back agent fro firefox , which is trying to report a crash cant connect, ad asks me to loook at my proxy settings. what can this be ?
[11:12] <n2diy> Merijn: what does ctrl+alt+ - do? Do it again!
[11:12] <Merijn> n2diy it makes resolution higher until it reaches 1600x1200, then it goes out of sync
[11:12] <Tajmox> reconfiguring will let you type in the refresh rate i think
[11:13] <n2diy> Merijn: Ok, but X is usable?
[11:13] <Merijn> n2diy yes, but at the wrong refresh rate
[11:13] <beuno> Merijn: have you played with the config file in:    /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[11:13] <n2diy> Merijn: Is that a problem?
[11:14] <Merijn> beuno yes, but whatever I put there, I can't choose the right refresh rate for preferred resolution
[11:14] <Tajmox> bueno xorg.conf doesnt have refresh rate settings.
[11:14] <Merijn> n2diy problem is a big word, annoying is more appropriete
[11:14] <Tajmox> does your video drivers have a configuration tool ?
[11:14] <Merijn> n2diy appro... whatever (english not native language)
[11:14] <n2diy> Merijn: Roger that.
[11:14] <beuno> ok, I'll step back, hope you nail it,    g'night!
[11:14] <linux1> any idea ppl
[11:14] <Ace_NoOne> Hi there! I'm about to install Kubuntu on my laptop, just for testing purposes though (to get to know Linux). How much space should I reserve for that partition; 5 GB should be enough for starters, right?
[11:15] <n2diy> beuno: gn
[11:15] <Tajmox> ace_noone yes 5-20 for starters
[11:16] <Ace_NoOne> Tajmox: 5-20 is quite a range ;) how much does Kubuntu occupy by default?
[11:16] <KenSentMe> When configuring WEP encryption in wpa_supplicant there is a wep_key0 and wep_key1 and wep_tx_keyidx=0. I only have one 64 bit wep key. What should i do with the other options?
[11:16] <Tajmox> you'll be ok with 5
[11:16] <Tajmox> it comoes to like 1.4gb after install i think
[11:16] <Ace_NoOne> thanks
[11:16] <n2diy> Merijn: So X is up and running, as long as your refresh/sync rates are close, your good to go.
[11:17] <Kim^J> More like 2.9GB after a few days.
[11:17] <Tajmox> n2diy he cant get to his highest resolution, that's the problem.
[11:17] <Tajmox> he thinks changing refresh rate will fix it
[11:17] <n2diy> Tajmox: You can't always get what you want. :)
[11:18] <Tajmox> but if you try sometimes
[11:18] <Tajmox> you just might find, you get what you need
[11:18] <n2diy> ! enter | Tajmox
[11:18] <ubotu> Tajmox: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:18] <Merijn> Tajmox I'm actually quite sure it will fix it
[11:20] <Peebo> Any ideas on how to get a Flash Player installer for x64 Unbutu
[11:21] <Peebo> Any ideas on how to get a Flash Player installer for x64 Ubuntu
[11:22] <Flannel> !chroot | Peebo
[11:22] <ubotu> Peebo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[11:22] <NoEvidenZ> I've been using this computer for Windows XP for a few months now, and I've just installed Ubuntu on another drive. I'm wondering how to set up a dual boot for the two systems. Do I have to use GRUB?
[11:23] <Flannel> NoEvidenZ: No, there are other alternatives.  Yes, grub is the preferred method.
[11:23] <Peebo> Hello fellow Aussie
[11:23] <tachyon> Peebo,  hi
[11:23] <Peebo> Hows Vic
[11:23] <tachyon> hehe. its hot
[11:23] <Merijn> tx for all the help so far
[11:24] <tachyon> Peebo: my friend picked up an old Dell server
[11:24] <Peebo> Cool here in Bris only 26 today, some drizzle and short bursts of actual rain
[11:24] <Peebo> and ?
[11:25] <tachyon> i have convinced  him to install Dapper 6.06 on it soon
[11:25] <NoEvidenZ> Are there any guides to installing grub that you could refer me to?
[11:25] <Flannel> NoEvidenZ: grub is installable from the ubuntu CD, and unless you opted out of it, was already installed, anyway...
[11:25] <Flannel> !dualboot
[11:25] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[11:25] <Flannel> !grub
[11:25] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:25] <Shadowpillar> what's the program that burns cd's besides nautilus?
[11:25] <Shadowpillar> I forgot the name
[11:25] <HeathenDan> gnomebaker?
[11:26] <johns^> Shadowpillar: k3b
[11:26] <Shadowpillar> that's it
[11:26] <Flannel> the former talks about some caveats, the latter (first link), will get you set up to install grub, using the CDs you have, assuming you haven't it already installed.
[11:26] <NoEvidenZ> I didn't opt out of it, but my computer booted back into XP anyway.
[11:26] <tachyon> so this server has a tape backup unit in it..
[11:26] <Peebo> I've just install my first Ubuntu 6.10 always used redhat before but got fed up with the very steep upgrade process
[11:26] <Peebo> Tape and Linux goa long way back
[11:26] <tachyon> Peebo, yeah redhat threw me for a while too
[11:26] <tachyon> now i know how to use Yum
[11:27] <Peebo> I've used it for 10 years almost, mostly severs
[11:27] <tachyon> so what is the software that will do the backup to tape?
[11:27] <johns^> !chat > Peebo
[11:27] <johns^> ;)
[11:28] <Flannel> johns^: I think you meant !offtopic (in that #ubuntu-offtopic is for chatting, #ubuntu is for support), the chat factoid lists chat clients
[11:28] <Peebo> tar stands for tape archive
[11:29] <tachyon> Peebo, i mean i want to schedule backups, like Dantz Retrospect
[11:29] <tachyon> hopefully with a nice GUI
[11:29] <johns^> Flannel: no I thought some info about IM clients would be useful :)
[11:29] <Peebo> in the good old days you would tar all your files and pipe it to the tape device
[11:30] <Flannel> !backup
[11:30] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[11:30] <Peebo> Never done tape with Linux yet
[11:30] <Peebo> looking into it tho
[11:30] <johns^> backup to harddisks is getting more popular these days. At least that's what I heared
[11:30] <brianski> johns^: backup to disk is the only way to go
[11:30] <Flannel> Peebo: tape is just one more device, nothing special.  Just a different mount point
[11:31] <Peebo> I'm developing a number of systems to replace windoze for good
[11:31] <johns^> brianski: the only way I do it anyway
[11:31] <brianski> disk has too high an initial cost to justify the slightly lower costs over time
[11:31] <johns^> rsync has been my dear old friend for years :)
[11:31] <brianski> and it's slower and generally more of a pain
[11:31] <Peebo> I have developed a complete disk based backup system using hotswap SATA drives
[11:32] <Peebo> disk is so much cheaper that tape intially it's not funny
[11:32] <Peebo> quicker and easyer
[11:32] <tachyon> uhh, nothing can be cheaper than this server... it was $free
[11:33] <Peebo> I just bought a terabyte of disk space for $400 AU
[11:33] <n2diy> tachyon:  no it wasn't, how did you find it ? How did you get it?
[11:34] <jeckyl__> hi
[11:34] <tachyon> n2diy, my friend got it from work
[11:34] <Marzocchi> Can help my with an unrar issue?
[11:34] <Marzocchi> anyone*
[11:34] <n2diy> tachyon:  What did it cost you to bring it home? Everything has a cost.
[11:34] <johns^> Marzocchi: what issue
[11:34] <tachyon> n2diy, it was going to be thrown away, so he took it home. it was free
[11:34] <jeckyl__> does ubuntu server edition have the madwifi drivers or only the desktop one?
[11:34] <Peebo> I just bought the wife a P4-2gig full computer with new 17" CRT for $200 AU
[11:35] <tachyon> Peebo, now THATs a good deal
[11:35] <n2diy> tachyon:  So he has his time, and fuel costs invested in it.
[11:35] <Marzocchi> I have a .rar in /media/music/ so in the terminal I did unrar e /media/music/ but I can't seem to find where the files went
[11:35] <Marzocchi> I saw them extracting, but I can't find them anywhere
[11:36] <johns^> Marzocchi: normally in a subdir of /media/music/
[11:36] <Peebo> There is a ex-gov / corporate wholesaler here, I can get those any time I want
[11:36] <Marzocchi> Nope, no subdir was created
[11:36] <johns^> hm
[11:36] <Mortal> Hey all. Is resizing a fat32 partition safe using the live installer?
[11:36] <jeckyl__> anyone??
[11:36] <Flannel> jeckyl__: on the CD? or what? what are they called?
[11:36] <jeckyl__> Flannel: they are in the linux-restricted package
[11:37] <jeckyl__> i've tried the desktop edition, but i want to use the server oriented one to avoid the GUI bloat....
[11:37] <Mortal> How do I resize my "extended" partition - I haven't used it all
[11:37] <Flannel> jeckyl__: they look to be identical in terms of that, yes.
[11:37] <Peebo> BBL
[11:38] <Flannel> jeckyl__: you might also be interested in the Alternate CD, depending on what you're using the GUiless system as.
[11:39] <snoops> but alternative still installs the a gui? Just no graphical installer
[11:39] <jeckyl__> Flannel: as a wireless router (i just want madwifi+quagga for routing, and probably some network services, dns, ntp, http etc.)
[11:39] <Flannel> snoops: there's options in the alternate CD, a "server" install (from the alternate CD), installs a desktop system sans gui
[11:39] <jeckyl__> the alternate cd installs gnome afaik
[11:39] <Flannel> jeckyl__: then you're probably best off with the server CD proper
[11:39] <jeckyl__> :)
[11:40] <Mortal> can you install a desktop system with gui from the alt cd?
[11:40] <Flannel> Mortal: yep
[11:40] <Mortal> I tried it once, couldn't figure it out
[11:40] <Flannel> if it were for a normal desktop system, I'd say the alternate CD, with a server install.  Since you probably already have it, and it's nice not having to change the kernel over.
[11:41] <jaalto> How can I ceck why apt-get tries to use port 88 for HTTP?
[11:41] <Flannel> not that the kernel shift requires a whole lot of work, but it's one less reboot.
[11:41] <jaalto> ....Could not connect to www.nic.funet.fi:88 (193.166.3.3). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[11:41] <jaalto> I do not have port settings in sources.list
[11:42] <jaalto> I assume that there is some problem that got there during update to feisty
[11:42] <Simplechat> do you know where i could find a windows version of grep?
[11:42] <Flannel> Mortal: the normal desktop system is the default installation option, from the alternate CD
[11:42] <Mortal> well, anyway, that wouldn't help me much - I still need to resize either my extended partition or one of my vfats - is it safe to resize a vfat - and is it possible to resize an extended?
[11:42] <jeckyl__> Simplechat: google "grep.exe" :-)
[11:45] <fluvvell> since I updated about 1 week before christmas, my cups printing over the network acts in a bizzare and refuses to print client sent files.  Local files are fine.
[11:45] <fluvvell> in a bizzare way that is. Any cups users noticed this?
[11:46] <Peebo> apt-get is sooooooooo much better than yum, how long has Ubuntu been around
[11:47] <fluvvell> Peebo: a couple of years now. its been big since versioin 5.04 in my opinion
[11:47] <Peebo> I've always used RedHat but I can tell you I'm not going back
[11:47] <fluvvell> Peebo: Ive been there too.
[11:48] <Peebo> I had Fedora Core 6 on this box for a day, and threw it out the window. Downloaded Ubuntu on my Windoze box yesterday. Soo kewl
[11:49] <levander> Peebo: Big reason I like Ubuntu is that the repositories have more applications.
[11:49] <fluvvell> Peebo: havn't seen anything fresher than Core 4, so couldn't comment.  Have you partitioned and installed?
[11:49] <fluvvell> elyon: cool name.
[11:50] <Peebo> Oh yeah ran it from the CD for an hour and had to have it installed
[11:50] <tachyon> also the Suse fans are pretty adamant their distro is cool
[11:50] <dibblego> what reasons would prevent my wireless card from showing up in lspci?
[11:50] <ttheikkila> should I install mythtv or try dvb-utils with my DVB-T -card on Ubuntu 6.10?
[11:51] <fluvvell> ttheikkila: which brand of card is it?
[11:51] <Peebo> I think I'll put my DVB-T card in this box tomorrow and give it a whirl
[11:52] <burepe> how can I open 40 zip tar.gz files without opening 40 windows?
[11:52] <Peebo> burepe: CLI
[11:53] <Peebo> BBL
[11:53] <burepe> Peebo: what is cli?
[11:53] <fluvvell> somthing like                tar zxvf *     should do it
[11:54] <fluvvell> burepe:  its the terminal application
[11:54] <dibblego> why can;t I get a wireless NIC to show up in lspci? I have bought two cards - both refuse to show up
[11:54] <ttheikkila> fluvvell: it is airsat2 dvb-t -card with flexcop -chip, recognized by the system.
[11:54] <G-net|gilnim> gilnim: GO HOME!
[11:55] <fluvvell> ttheikkila: I'd lean towards myth-tv, but there is a bit to do in the setup.
[11:55] <tachyon> bye4now
[11:55] <burepe> fluvvell: How would I set up the command with 40 file names?
[11:55] <AlexC_> burepe: * means all,
[11:56] <AlexC_> burepe: you could do *.tar.gz    that would do all tar.gz files
[11:56] <fluvvell> burepe:  assuming you can cd to the directory concerned and that only the tar.gz files were in there, the * wildcard should do it.
[11:56] <fluvvell> burepe, as in     tar zxvf *
[11:56] <AlexC_> burepe: so "tar zxvf *.tar.gz" should extract all of them
[11:56] <burepe> ok
[11:56] <burepe> thanks
[11:56] <burepe> I see
[11:56] <Simplechat> :(
[11:57] <fluvvell> AlexC_, if the directory only contains the tar.gz files, I'd skip the .tar.gz part
[11:58] <AlexC_> fluvvell: yeah you could do
[11:58] <Peebo> Sorry burepe, was on another desktop, CLI is Command Line Interface. I still love my Amigas
[11:59] <Peebo> L8r
[12:01] <Zaggynl> My usb device keeps resetting, what could cause this?
[12:01] <ttheikkila> Myth-tv, there are also different combinations to choose- like what is the choice for multi-use pc, will the frontend-backend combination do the trick?
[12:02] <compengi> how can i send a file using scp to a windows pc if the pc is on a network and i know the real ip and the computer name?
[12:02] <Zaggynl> compengi, use winscp from the windows machine
[12:03] <compengi> Zaggynl, no i want to send a file from my linux from here to windows's
[12:04] <Zaggynl> compengi, you could set up a share at the windows machine, or set up an ftp server
[12:04] <compengi> Zaggynl, but i can't send a file to that user using scp?
[12:05] <Zaggynl> compengi, not that I know
[12:06] <burepe_> What is the command to get to the command line screen and the one to get out of it again?
[12:07] <levander> Anybody know why even though I have a widescreen monitor, and I'm viewing a widescreen DVD, that I still have black bars at the top and bottom?
[12:08] <burepe_> does a widescreen monitor mean "widescreen movies" widscreen? or just a wide screen?
[12:08] <compengi> Zaggynl, do you know how to install an ftp serveR?
[12:08] <Juhaz> just because they're both "wide" doesn't mean they have same aspect ratio
[12:08] <netcom8> #jakarta
[12:08] <burepe_> !lamp
[12:08] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:08] <Zaggynl> compengi, yes, but I advise you to set up a share at the windows machine
[12:08] <netcom8> join #jakarta
[12:09] <netcom8> #join jakarta
[12:09] <Flannel> netcom8: / infront
[12:09] <beck> Can someone help me out? I need some help with Rhythmbox... how do I get MP3's, WMA's, etc to work?
[12:09] <Zaggynl> !mp3
[12:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:10] <beck> Thanks. xD
[12:10] <burepe_> say I have 200 package managers open that are causing my comp to not respond, how would I kill them all?
[12:11] <burepe_> it was an accident
[12:11] <burepe_> I thought they would all open in one
[12:12] <beck> Um...
[12:12] <beck> Zaggynl?
[12:12] <Zaggynl> beck, yeah?
[12:12] <beck> That's not helping, I don't get it.
[12:12] <beck> I can't see the boxes I'm supposed to check.
[12:13] <beck> Oh, hang on... missed a step.
[12:13] <BenjaminB> does anyone know of an apt repo, where i can get php5.2?
[12:13] <Flannel> burepe_: killall would be what you'd use.
[12:14] <beck> "Install the packages. While you could install packages individually using Synaptic, here is one case where any Ubuntu user can save a lot of time by using the command line. Click Application -> Accessories -> Terminal  and paste the following command" Install the packages? O_O
[12:14] <Zaggynl> :)
[12:14] <burepe_> Flannel I need a file name though right?
[12:14] <beck> Really, really confused.
[12:14] <beck> Oh
[12:14] <beck> Damnit.
[12:14] <beck> I should read ahead.
[12:14] <Zaggynl> take it slow :)
[12:15] <burepe_> Flannel: -g for process group, ok? what is that command to see all the processes?
[12:15] <Zaggynl> burepe, ps aux
[12:15] <Flannel> burepe_: you need a process name, yeah.
[12:15] <ubuntux> i have a problem, suddenly my sound doesnt work anymore. Can someone help me with this?
[12:15] <noiesmo> burepe, also pkill <processname>
[12:15] <Flannel> BenjaminB: 5.2 is in feisty
[12:16] <BenjaminB> k thx
[12:16] <beck> What does "Hit" mean in the packages thing mean?
[12:16] <owh> I have a client on the other end of the phone with a Ubuntu boot screen that says: lilo 22.6.1 ebda big kernal setup stack overlaps second stage -- any suggestions?
[12:16] <beck> Just out of curiousity.
[12:16] <Zaggynl> beck, good question, never bothered to look that up :D
[12:16] <Flannel> BenjaminB: of course, feisty is still super alpha.  Are you sure you need 5.2?
[12:16] <beck> LMAO.
[12:17] <BenjaminB> yep, is just for a dev server to try it out
[12:17] <burepe_> Flannel noisemo I can't seem to scroll up on the out put of ps aux so I can't see the package manager process name? Any suggestions?
[12:17] <Flannel> burepe_: ps aux | less
[12:18] <ubuntux> can someone please help me fix my sound problem?
[12:18] <burepe_> ubuntux: say they problem. If anyone knows they will help
[12:18] <beck> So... how old is everyone? o.o
[12:19] <ubuntux> ok
[12:19] <Flannel> beck: for chit-chat, we have #ubuntu-offtopic, #ubuntu is support related chatter only.  Thanks.
[12:19] <ubuntux> in dmesg it says
[12:19] <ubuntux> [17179587.440000]  AC'97 1 does not respond - RESET
[12:19] <ubuntux> [17179587.440000]  AC'97 1 access is not valid [0xffffffff] , removing mixer.
[12:20] <ubuntux> its an onboard sound card
[12:20] <tuna-fish-> How can I tell the apt system to just shut up and leave a perfectly correctly working package that has a broken dependency as it is?
[12:20] <ubuntux> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[12:20] <ubuntux> card 0: M5455 [ALi M5455] , device 0: Intel ICH [ALi M5455] 
[12:20] <ubuntux>   Subdevices: 1/1
[12:20] <ubuntux>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[12:20] <ubuntux> card 0: M5455 [ALi M5455] , device 2: Intel ICH - IEC958 [ALi M5455 - IEC958] 
[12:20] <ubuntux>   Subdevices: 1/1
[12:20] <ubuntux>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[12:20] <Flannel> !paste  | ubuntux
[12:20] <ubotu> ubuntux: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:21] <Flannel> tuna-fish-: if its got a broken dependency, it won't be completely working.
[12:22] <tuna-fish-> Flannel: Yes it will, becuase all the files that exist in tahat dependency do exist in my system, but under a different package name,
[12:22] <erUSUL> ubuntux: if it worked before and now it doesn't it may be a hardware faliure or maybe you changed bios settings... (provided you hadn't changed your kernel)
[12:22] <ubuntux> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/326/
[12:22] <burepe_> sweet. Think I killed it. file-roller. Anyone tell me the command to get back to the gui? I am in the "alt+shift+f2" or whatever it is to get to a command line
[12:22] <ubuntux> well thats the strangest thing, i didnt change anything
[12:22] <burepe_> !dvd
[12:22] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:23] <Flannel> burepe_: f7 will get you back (ctrl-alt-f7)
[12:23] <ubuntux> can i reinstall the kernel again or something, to clear that out?
[12:23] <burepe_> Flannel thanks
[12:23] <beck> I see that.
[12:23] <burwaco> hello everyone
[12:23] <Zaggynl> 'lo
[12:24] <burepe_> got it. thanks ya'll
[12:24] <burwaco> I have a problem, I tried to install the latest ATI drivers from ATI, but now I don't hae direct rendering anymore...
[12:24] <burwaco> does anyone know how I can fix this ?
[12:24] <burepe_> that was more satisfiying then doing the "hold powerbutton and restart" windows solution
[12:24] <Zaggynl> I keep seeing the following line in my /var/log/messages: ' usb 5-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2', is my hardware going bad?
[12:26] <burwaco> [Error]  Kernel Module : No kernel module build environment
[12:26] <beck> Have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in
[12:26] <beck> ?
[12:27] <beck> Yay!
[12:27] <spago_ok> hi everybody
[12:27] <beck> My music!
[12:28] <Zaggynl> beck, oh yeah, plenty
[12:29] <burepe> AlexC_: I did this command in the directory tar zxvf *.tar.gz but I am getting errors that a bunch of archives don't exist. Any ideas?
[12:29] <beck> Have you tried em in different ports?
[12:30] <beck> Just sayin', coz the port could be screwed.
[12:30] <spago_ok> i would like to make a fool question: what is the most lite and performant between kde and gnome?
[12:30] <spago_ok> i'm using ubuntu on a laptop
[12:31] <Zaggynl> beck, I could give that a whirl
[12:31] <AlexC_> burepe pastebin the output
[12:31] <beck> Me too, spago.
[12:32] <AlexC_> spago_ok: try them and see,
[12:32] <beck> Okay. I have another question.
[12:32] <spago_ok> actually i'm using gnome,but i don't know which is is the best
[12:33] <Acidic`> Hello, I am in need of assistance with setting GRUB up to dual boot my Windows XP and Ubuntu Os's.
[12:33] <beck> A plugin for Kopete to show the currently playing song.
[12:33] <spago_ok> beck,on kopete's options
[12:33] <beck> Oh and why isn't my music shuffling in Rhythmbox? >_>
[12:33] <spago_ok> sorry
[12:33] <spago_ok> setting's
[12:33] <spago_ok> :D
[12:33] <beck> :P
[12:34] <spago_ok> setting's men,choose plugins settings
[12:34] <Acidic`> Can anyone assist me with configuring GRUB?
[12:34] <spago_ok> now here you can select some plugins
[12:34] <beck> Plugins settings... *looks for it*
[12:35] <spago_ok> sorry form my evil english,but i'm italian
[12:35] <spago_ok> :D
[12:35] <SPUCK_> hi there
[12:35] <spago_ok> on  kopete's main window
[12:35] <yuesefa> how can i remove the Computer and Deleted Items from my desktop?
[12:35] <beck> ...Ummm... there is no Plugins menu. xD
[12:35] <SPUCK_> an easy step by step on how to run XGL on my Ubuntu?
[12:35] <beck> Oh, got it
[12:35] <spago_ok> kopete's contacts list window
[12:35] <erUSUL> !xgl
[12:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:36] <SPUCK_> thanks ubotu ^_^
[12:37] <beck> Argh to Rhythmbox!
[12:37] <beck> It's not even shuffling my musci.
[12:37] <beck> *music
[12:37] <spago_ok> i'm using amarok
[12:37] <beck> Okay... that's messed up.
[12:37] <spago_ok> it's so lovely
[12:37] <Zaggynl> beck, there sure is a shuffle option
[12:37] <spago_ok> :D
[12:37] <beck> Yeah, Kopete doesn't have the plugin for Rythmbox
[12:38] <beck> Yeah, but clicking it makes it play in order.
[12:38] <Zaggynl> click it again?
[12:38] <beck> Yeah... now it's playing shuffled. *shakes head*
[12:38] <Zaggynl> heheh
[12:38] <spago_ok> ^^
[12:38] <Acidic`> Can anyone assist me with installing GRUB?
[12:39] <beck> Okay... is there a way to make the song appear in Kopete if I'm using Rhythmbox?
[12:39] <burwaco> hello everyone
[12:39] <compengi> beck, install xmms :D
[12:39] <beck> I have it.
[12:39] <beck> Okay, whatever. I don't mind which I used, I figured Rhythmbox would be easier to organise.
[12:40] <burwaco> I have found the problem for my ATI driver in a logfile, but don't know what to do about it, can anyone look in #flood to see the error ?
[12:40] <beck> 200 songs is not easy thing to organise.
[12:40] <spago_ok> it's like to organize my 1400 mp3's directory
[12:40] <spago_ok> :D
[12:41] <burwaco> Kernel module does not match driver...
[12:41] <compengi> beck, i had to organize my 4000 songs :)
[12:41] <beck> Wow. xD
[12:41] <spago_ok> ^^
[12:41] <beck> It's hard to organise in XMMS.
[12:41] <compengi> beck, so 200 is rubbish compared to it
[12:41] <Peebo> I have 15 gigs of MP3's
[12:41] <compengi> beck why?
[12:42] <beck> *shrugs* *has always used Windows before now*
[12:42] <compengi> Peebo, 15GB doesn't say anything about the number of songs :D
[12:42] <spago_ok> however,i was using xmms,but i tryed amarok and it's so easy to organize
[12:42] <Peebo> their MP3's of good quality about 4to4.5 Meg a song
[12:43] <beck> I'll install amarok
[12:43] <Peebo> My guess about 3500
[12:43] <compengi> Peebo, what can you say about that i have 17.6GB song and they are 4000 song
[12:44] <compengi> songs*
[12:44] <dark_> guys what are ALL the essential tools to compile from source in ubuntu ?
[12:44] <dark_> thanx for
[12:44] <dark_> help
[12:44] <Peebo> sound right to me
[12:44] <beck> [:
[12:44] <noiesmo> beck, for amarok and mp3's you'll need multiverse and these to packages "libmad0 libxine-extracodecs"
[12:44] <compengi> dark_, you need to install the dependencies then to compile it
[12:44] <Peebo> 4.5 x 17600 = 3911
[12:44] <pdedecker> how can I change file associations?
[12:45] <compengi> nope
[12:45] <burepe> AlexC_: Pastebin doesn't like japanese. It is in Japanese so it says "can't find inside of archive" for each line. There is a bunch of these lines "tar: xtracker-4.7.x-1.x-dev.tar.gz: 
[12:45] <burepe> "
[12:45] <pdedecker> i'm using gnome; how can I change file associations?
[12:46] <beck> You wanna help me with that, noiesmo? :x
[12:46] <beck> I'm new to Ubuntu. ._.
[12:46] <pdedecker> I accidentally associated .exe files with file-roller; what can I do?
[12:46] <Peebo> beck: Me 2
[12:46] <compengi> beck, what do you need help in?
[12:47] <burwaco> how can I know the version of my X-server ?
[12:47] <beck> [22:44]  <noiesmo> beck, for amarok and mp3's you'll need multiverse and these to packages "libmad0 libxine-extracodecs"
[12:47] <Peebo> I can't get a flash player to work right with firefox
[12:47] <compengi> burwaco, uname -a
[12:47] <beck> I got it to work.
[12:47] <noiesmo> beck, open a terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" then add universe and multiverse to your repo's
[12:47] <compengi> burwaco, in your terminal
[12:47] <compengi> oh
[12:47] <beck> You've gotta read the read me, Peebo
[12:47] <Peebo> beck: How ?
[12:47] <beck> Gah.
[12:48] <compengi> burwaco, it should be the same as the kernel version
[12:48] <beck> Have you downloaded the flash player thing manually?
[12:48] <burwaco> compengi, that doesn't reveal the version of my xserver, thats kernel info...
[12:48] <beck> When it's downloaded, go to where it downloaded to.
[12:48] <compengi> burwaco, yeah and x server is the same version of the x server
[12:48] <beck> And read the readme, coz it'll help. Alot.
[12:49] <burwaco> compengi, but what is it 7.1 or 7.2 ???
[12:49] <Peebo> the official Abobe one is not for x64
[12:49] <beck> Oh, then I dunno.
[12:49] <beck> It worked without a problem for me.
[12:49] <Peebo> I'm running 64 bit Ubuntu
[12:50] <beck> Ohh
[12:50] <Angelus> hi there guys! :)
[12:50] <beck> An Australian!
[12:50] <beck> :D
[12:50] <beck> Hii
[12:51] <Peebo> Aussies don't say the G word mate !
[12:51] <LinuxWorld> helloo
[12:51] <beck> No, we don't.
[12:51] <Angelus> was wondering, if I'm using ubuntu and I want to install software, what should I be downloading, an ARM file or a x386 file?
[12:51] <burwaco> how can I find out the version  of x.org I use ?
[12:51] <logomancer> x386
[12:51] <beck> ARM file? *giggles*
[12:51] <Peebo> apt-get install "package name"
[12:52] <Peebo> Angelus: apt-get install "package name"
[12:52] <Angelus> the reason I ask is because I need to use a meta frame presentation server client for linux
[12:52] <Angelus> whatever that means lol
[12:52] <beck> I was lost on the first word.
[12:53] <Angelus> where I work it allows me to connect to my machine in the office remotely through citrix
[12:53] <ra21vi> hi frinds
[12:53] <Peebo> apt-get will retrieve all dependencies and needed software you type it into your CLI
[12:53] <biotrox> !info KDE in Ubuntu
[12:54] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[12:54] <ra21vi> a quick help.... yea its dummy question I know
[12:54] <ra21vi> i installed nvidia card right now
[12:54] <Angelus> but I don't really know what the application name is
[12:54] <Angelus> lol
[12:54] <ra21vi> and then my defualt is i915
[12:54] <Angelus> it's just telling me I need the file
[12:54] <Peebo> apt-cache search "best guess"
[12:54] <ra21vi> so I m getting Xserrver error, what to do to install its modules and drivers
[12:55] <ra21vi> when trying apt-get install nvidia-glx , its giving error
[12:55] <burwaco> ok, so the answer to my question is $X -version
[12:55] <Angelus> don't forget, if I'm in the help room, I have no idea what I'm doing lol
[12:55] <Angelus> also, how will I run the .x386 file?
[12:56] <Peebo> OPen a terminal and type       apt-cache search     followed by a part of the package name your after
[12:57] <beck> Oh god. xD
[12:58] <beck> I just tried to paste a conversation from Kopete into Terminal. *shakes head*
[12:58] <d-brane> hello:)happy new year!:)In x-chat-gnome how can i connect to more that one network?
[12:58] <yacc> Any tips for an app that rips Audio CDs and names the mp3 files correctly, perhaps even with the right embedded tags?
[12:58] <yacc> d-brane: Just connect via the server tab.
[12:58] <Peebo> :-D
[12:58] <biotrox> yacc | grip
[12:58] <yacc> d-brane: Ctrl-T might work also
[12:58] <d-brane> where is this?:)
[12:58] <Peebo> Sorry don't buy CD's
[12:59] <biotrox> !grip | yacc
[12:59] <ubotu> yacc: grip is a ripping player and has a minor bug which can be solved by doing this "sudo ln -s /dev/hdX /dev/cdromN" where X is your hard drive and N a number
[12:59] <elifed> Peebo there is always the public library :D
[12:59] <incorrect> i am looking for a replacement for the bsmtp client, (bacula email client)
[12:59] <yacc> biotrox: What's that minor bug?
[12:59] <yacc> biotrox: guess that's not a cmdline tool?
[12:59] <Peebo> You mean go outside ! ! !
[01:00] <elifed> haha
[01:00] <elifed> good point
[01:00] <incorrect> ideally i would like a command line email client that can takes a similar format
[01:00] <kenthomson> Hello everyone!!!
[01:00] <elifed> you could coordinate it with the day you shop for toilet paper
[01:00] <biotrox> yacc | haven't try grip in ubuntu but when i used mandriva i used grip for ripping CDs
[01:00] <Peebo> The day star is to big it will cook me.
[01:00] <yacc> d-brane: did the Ctrl-T shortcut work for you?
[01:00] <elifed> yeah that bright orange thing kicks my butt too
[01:01] <beck> Need some help
[01:01] <elifed> don't look at it if you value your retinas
[01:01] <beck> How do I unlock Amarok?
[01:01] <ra21vi> any1 know wqat 2 do
[01:01] <Peebo> Yoh ! beck
[01:01] <kenthomson> !ask | beck
[01:01] <ubotu> beck: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:01] <elifed> unlock?
[01:01] <Angelus> sorry I'm a little slow. I have the files now from the download, how do I install it?
[01:01] <beck> Yeah
[01:01] <elifed> beck, what do you mean?
[01:01] <Angelus> the files are in .386 form
[01:01] <beck> As in... allow MP3s and WMAs to be played.
[01:01] <kenthomson> Angelus, what have you downloaded?
[01:02] <elifed> ah
[01:02] <elifed> that is easy
[01:02] <kenthomson> !mp3 | beck
[01:02] <ubotu> beck: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:02] <elifed> Kubuntu or Ubuntu beck?
[01:02] <ra21vi> is there any officiak kernel for i68 optimized
[01:02] <Angelus> it's a file to use with Citrix
[01:02] <beck> Ubuntu
[01:02] <ismail> ibuntu
[01:02] <kenthomson> you-ubuntu? ")
[01:02] <burwaco> winbuntu  ?
[01:02] <ra21vi> webuntu
[01:02] <kenthomson> you-buntu? :)
[01:02] <burwaco> *dives*
[01:02] <ismail> allbuntu
[01:03] <beck> e.e
[01:03] <burwaco> winbundows
[01:03] <kenthomson> bubuntu?
[01:03] <kenthomson> cubuntu
[01:03] <elifed> beck actually I'm not sure in that case if it uses Ubuntu or Kubuntu dependancies for Amarok
[01:03] <kenthomson> dubuntu
[01:03] <Peebo> Kde is all squishy round the edges, feels to much like windoze
[01:03] <elifed> but...
[01:03] <ra21vi> eubutu
[01:03] <kenthomson> Peebo, you hit a point
[01:03] <ismail> sadambuntu
[01:03] <elifed> Peebo: don't all DE's?
[01:03] <kenthomson> ra21vi, please continue on
[01:03] <elifed> WIMP is WIMP
[01:03] <kenthomson> ismail, peace!
[01:03] <ismail> hahaha
[01:04] <LinTux> When I load KDE or XFCE my screen goes out of sync and moves according to the mouse, does not happen in Gnome?
[01:04] <ra21vi> hi ken, wats the new draft for C
[01:04] <LinuxWorld> wis there a download manager like FlashGet for Linux?
[01:04] <Peebo> some are winpyer than others
[01:04] <kenthomson> ra21vi, ???
[01:04] <ra21vi> nothing
[01:04] <elifed> beck
[01:04] <biotrox> !grip
[01:04] <ubotu> grip is a ripping player and has a minor bug which can be solved by doing this "sudo ln -s /dev/hdX /dev/cdromN" where X is your hard drive and N a number
[01:04] <beck> Yeeeeees?
[01:04] <elifed> has anyone turned you on to this URL yet?
[01:05] <ra21vi> Any official i686 kernel release?
[01:05] <elifed> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:05] <Peebo> !dvdrip
[01:05] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.1-0.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 2084 kB
[01:05] <beck> Yeah they have.
[01:05] <beck> Gah. Laggy.
[01:05] <n2diy> LinTux: disable your scroll lock key?
[01:05] <yacc> Any idea for a cmdline audiocd->mp3 ripper?
[01:05] <ra21vi> !linux
[01:05] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[01:05] <elifed> beck okay, which have you installed?
[01:05] <burwaco> I get this error while running ATI installer, can anyone help? cp: cannot stat `x710/usr/X11R6/bin/*': No such file or directory
[01:05] <beck> I installed Amarok.
[01:05] <Peebo> !Amarok
[01:05] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[01:05] <LinTux> n2diy: I will give it a go
[01:06] <beck> That's kinda annoying me. x_x
[01:06] <biotrox> yacc | the minor bug I think that grip cannot identify cdrom if it mounted as hdx
[01:06] <elifed> beck, I'd install the Kubuntu stuff
[01:06] <elifed> beck: you've already enable multiverse and universe repositories?
[01:06] <burepe> can someone give me a command to extract all the tar.gz files in a directory?
[01:06] <beck> Yep
[01:07] <Peebo> tar -zxvf *.gz
[01:07] <biotrox> !midi player
[01:07] <Peebo> | burepetar -zxvf *.gz
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about midi player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <biotrox> !radius
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radius - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <biotrox> !hotspot
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotspot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <beck> Oh, it's already activated. *tries playing a file*
[01:08] <Peebo> !sex
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <biotrox> !routing
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about routing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <elifed> beck: edgy?
[01:08] <elkbuntu> !botabuse
[01:08] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:08] <burepe> Peebo: I am getting this error. It says can't find contents of file tar: taxonomy_ezfilter-4.7.x-1.x-dev.tar.gz: 
[01:09] <burepe> I get one for everyfile in the directory
[01:09] <elifed> beck: I'd try installing libxine-extracodecs
[01:09] <Peebo> Is that Chinese yours too
[01:09] <beck> Nah dapper
[01:09] <burepe> japanese
[01:09] <Peebo> sound like a corrupt archive
[01:09] <burepe> yeah
[01:09] <beck> It's okay, my music is working. =] 
[01:09] <burepe> there are 200 of them
[01:10] <Peebo> Hmm
[01:10] <n2diy> LinTux: ?
[01:10] <burepe> that i downloaded individually so I don't think it can be
[01:10] <BloodNinja> how would you go about installing ubuntu on a computer that only has a floppy drive?
[01:10] <burepe> If I use the gui one by one they work
[01:10] <elifed> beck: to play .wma. follow the instructions here
[01:10] <elifed> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[01:10] <burepe> !netinstall
[01:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:11] <Peebo> # tar -zxvf    filename gives what error ?
[01:11] <BloodNinja> it's a really old laptop without en eth port
[01:11] <elifed> beck: ok, it's working now then?
[01:11] <Peebo> get a realy old PCMCIA card for it.
[01:11] <beck> Yes.
[01:11] <beck> Jeez.
[01:11] <beck> xD
[01:11] <elifed> excellent
[01:12] <BloodNinja> it has a pcmcia card
[01:12] <BloodNinja> but I can't get it to work with debian
[01:12] <burepe> It gives the error I typed up there "can't find contents of archive" or something similar
[01:12] <beck> And I just asked someone using MSN messenger if they could see it, and they can, so it's good. :D
[01:13] <Peebo> can you send me one of those files
[01:13] <pschulz01> !locales
[01:13] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[01:13] <burepe> I have to sign in my nic
[01:13] <liberion> Peebo, morning
[01:13] <burepe> hold on
[01:14] <Peebo> Morning
[01:14] <beck> =] ] ] 
[01:14] <burepe> what is the nick identify command?
[01:14] <Peebo> 10:13PM here
[01:14] <yuesefa> how can i remove the Computer and Deleted Items from my desktop?
[01:14] <yuesefa> never use them
[01:15] <burwaco> I there anyone that can help me a little with ATI 8.32.5 driver install ?
[01:15] <Peebo> I haven't used IRC in about 5 years and this is my first day with this client
[01:15] <burepe> ok
[01:15] <liberion> burepe, what r your computer specs
[01:15] <burepe> found it
[01:15] <burepe> burwaco not me
[01:16] <Peebo> What IRC client U using
[01:16] <beck> Alright. I'm gonna go now. :)
[01:16] <beck> Thanks for the help!
[01:16] <martin__> #ubuntu-fr
[01:17] <burepe> Peebo I identified, I just sent it. Are you getting it>
[01:17] <Peebo> I said yes to recieve it but it aint started yet
[01:18] <Jaak_> how do i figure out what the irq and i/o of my serial port is
[01:18] <Peebo> Ahh crap my firewall may be getting in the way
[01:18] <martin__> #ubuntu-fr-testing
[01:18] <burepe> I just downloaded it from drupal
[01:18] <Peebo> does IRC use a different port for file transfers
[01:19] <Peebo> do you have a URL for that file
[01:19] <cratuki> What's the package for changing resolution in tty?
[01:19] <compengi> burwaco, X -version in your terminal for x server version
[01:20] <cratuki> frame buffer! that's it
[01:21] <Peebo> OK got it from there
[01:21] <burwaco> compengi, thx
[01:21] <compengi> burwaco, np
[01:21] <burepe> Peebo: anyone on this bage will do http://drupal.org/project/Modules/category/89
[01:22] <ra21vi> ] bingo
[01:22] <Peebo> tar -zxvf taxonomy_ezfilter-4.7.x-1.x-dev.tar.gz                         extracted perfectly
[01:22] <tchado> hi
[01:22] <martin__> #ubuntu-fr-testing
[01:22] <Peebo> root@Saffron:/home/craig-griffis/Desktop/1# tar -zxvf taxonomy_ezfilter-4.7.x-1.x-dev.tar.gz
[01:22] <Peebo> taxonomy_ezfilter/
[01:22] <Peebo> taxonomy_ezfilter/LICENSE.txt
[01:22] <Peebo> taxonomy_ezfilter/taxonomy_ezfilter.module
[01:22] <Peebo> root@Saffron:/home/craig-griffis/Desktop/1#
[01:24] <burepe> Peebo I have 200 or more files so one by one they are ok but I want to find a quick way to do all of them but i get the errors
[01:24] <ra21vi> is there a\ny1, who can help me.. keywords:nvidia|xorg|aiglx|best performance...
[01:25] <Peebo> I don't know why tar -zxvf *.gz   would not work
[01:25] <eth0> Where can I get themes for ubuntu, so that I can install through system -> prefrences -> theme?
[01:25] <burepe> Strange huh
[01:25] <ra21vi> ehto : gnome themes ... search google
[01:26] <burwaco> Ok, I found out what the problem is with the ATI fglrx driver, but I don't know how to solve it, the kernel module is 8.28.8 and the driver is 8.32.5, so I getan error like  Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.(EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work, how can I solve this ?
[01:26] <Peebo> can you copy and paste what you typed on the CLI
[01:27] <burepe> The pastebin doesn't like the Japanese.
[01:27] <Peebo> What the hell is the Japanese, why is it there
[01:27] <tchado> when i start my comp with edgy, i've to make a Ctrl+alt+backspace either my system freeze. then i reconnect and have a message like board is busy. with htop i see the process gnome-panel use 99% cpu, i kill it and restart gnome-panel, to begin work. Someone can help me ?
[01:28] <eth0> Well I go to sites off of google, and I don't know what to select..Theres too many options like GTK themes, applications, logon screens...but no THEMES
[01:29] <Riot777> is there any possibility to ran Gnome "keybinding command gconf key" (/apps/metacity/keybinding_commands/command_X like this) by some tool as a bash command ?
[01:29] <burepe> peebo http://extraball.sunsite.dk/notepad.php?ID=77664
[01:30] <zaleth> hey does anyone here know what happened to irc.box.sk ?
[01:31] <burepe> Peebo all that junk says "can't find archive contents" in Japanese. It is misreading the charecters
[01:31] <Peebo> Ah ok wondered bout that
[01:32] <Music_Shuffle> eth0, gnome-look.org
[01:33] <eth0> Music_Shuffle: I've been there.
[01:33] <Music_Shuffle> And....
[01:33] <eth0> I don't know what to get..I just want my desktop to look cool..I don't know what to select, GTK2, GTK1, etc
[01:34] <Peebo> Thinking
[01:34] <burepe> its ok. I think I just got to do it one by one
[01:34] <burepe> thanks though
[01:36] <Peebo> put a -w in the tar options and see what it says
[01:36] <Peebo> tar -wzxvf
[01:36] <LinuxWorld> anyone can recommend me a dreamweaver clone for Linux or whats the best web authoring tool for linux?
[01:36] <Peebo> -w, --interactive, --confirmation
[01:36] <Peebo>               ask for confirmation for every action
[01:36] <seamus_ie> LinuxWorld: vim
[01:36] <logomancer> LinuxWorld: Screem and nvu
[01:37] <LinuxWorld> this 3 ones yes?
[01:37] <LinuxWorld> which one is outstanding..near to dreamweaver
[01:38] <logomancer> nvu is probably closest
[01:38] <burepe> peebo I am halfway done so I will try it after. Thanks
[01:38] <Peebo> I code all my pages with nano. Check out http://www.mode66.com
[01:38] <LinuxWorld> ok...i will try it out...dreamweaver under Linux..anyone tried it?
[01:38] <Peebo> Ok mate
[01:38] <LinuxWorld> with Wine...
[01:39] <LinuxWorld> peebo..also a good one..but in my case i work since version 1.0 with dreamweaver..
[01:39] <Peebo> I don't like the taste of wine I prefer Vodka
[01:39] <LinuxWorld> now i deleted windows from my computer and want to use DW under Linux
[01:40] <LinuxWorld> peebo: hehe sure
[01:41] <nunu> when will the next version be out?
[01:41] <bimberi> !feisty
[01:41] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[01:42] <nunu> thanks you
[01:42] <bimberi> np :)
[01:42] <Peebo> burepe: what are you doing in Japan
[01:43] <mwe> I they drunk when they come up with the code names ;)
[01:43] <burwaco> Ok, I found out what the problem is with the ATI fglrx driver, but I don't know how to solve it, the kernel module is 8.28.8 and the driver is 8.32.5, so I getan error like  Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.(EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work, how can I solve this ?
[01:43] <burwaco> How can I install the right kernel module ?
[01:43] <mhiku> what software uses mailer.conf
[01:44] <mwe> !ati | burwaco
[01:44] <ubotu> burwaco: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:44] <burepe> I live and learn and teach
[01:44] <Peebo> Where U from originally
[01:45] <burepe> us
[01:45] <burwaco> mwe, thx
[01:45] <mwe> yw
[01:45] <Peebo> I spent 7 months in Cambodia in 2006
[01:45] <burepe> peebo doing what?
[01:45] <Gosha> !lamp
[01:45] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:46] <Peebo> Taught some English to make a few dollars. Waiting for my wife's Visa to come through
[01:46] <burepe> I have some friends that did I bike ride there called peppy
[01:47] <mhiku> who uses mailer.conf in eselect mailer list?
[01:47] <Peebo> Hang foul for a sec
[01:48] <auTONYmous> yo!
[01:49] <auTONYmous> I need a hand with ATI dual-head setup...anybody here know how?
[01:52] <HymnToLife> !away | logomancer
[01:52] <ubotu> logomancer: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[01:53] <Peebo> :burepe: check this out click the image for a closer look  http://lost-photos.blogspot.com/2006/03/lost-photos-found-in-cambodia.html
[01:53] <byk> hello
[01:53] <byk> Anyone know where I can download Ubuntu DVD 6.10?
[01:53] <VMT2007> I can't see my mouse cursor in KDM
[01:53] <VMT2007> byk: that isn't available through FTP for bandwidth reasons I believe, you'd have to torrent it
[01:54] <VMT2007> http://nginyang.uvt.nl/edgy/
[01:54] <Peebo> It fits on a CD
[01:54] <VMT2007> extra packages
[01:54] <Peebo> BKY: It fits on a CD
[01:54] <byk> thanks a lot
[01:54] <VMT2007> Anyway, I can't see my mouse cursor in KDM
[01:55] <burepe> Peebo: that is a funny story. The picture of you and your wife is beautiful.
[01:55] <Peebo> For anyone in Aussie land Ubuntu is available from aarnet.edu.au very fast D/Ls
[01:56] <Peebo> Yeah I still have the photo's and the SD card for that matter
[01:56] <Peebo> She is truley a living angel mate
[01:57] <edgymarti> #ubuntu-fr
[01:58] <burepe> I orginally studied japanese art and became an exchange student so I like that
[01:58] <burepe> traditional clothes and things
[01:58] <burepe> I don't know anything about cambodia though
[01:58] <bimberi> !dvdiso | byk
[01:58] <ubotu> byk: DVD ISOs are available via http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/
[01:59] <seamus_ie> Hey all, I'm looking for the 32 bit windows drivers for my broadcom 4310 wifi card. Has anyone here got this card working or know where I can find the 32 bit drivers so I can use ndiswrapper with them?
[01:59] <Peebo> BTW anyone who checked out http://www.mode66.com   I own the company and no I don't any more Techs yet
[01:59] <sam_uk> i have installed gnome-main-menu it is great but the nework icon displays that it has no net connection - when it in fact does. anyone help me to troubleshoot please?
[02:00] <Peebo> Cambodia great place, crap goverment. People still go missing over there for saying "I don't like the government"
[02:01] <nunu> ubotu, what is in the dvd iso that is not in the cd one?
[02:03] <apokryphos> nunu: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[02:03] <Peebo> wils0n: another Craig, Hello mate
[02:04] <Jaggz-> anyone know where I can get vim 7 .deb packages?
[02:04] <Jaggz-> I'm under hoary hedgehog still
[02:05] <boulkn> how do i bind multiple IP's to the same nic ?
[02:05] <boulkn> the interfaces docs are confusing on this
[02:06] <Jaak_> how do i figure out what the io/irq of a device is, like my com port where i connected my IR device...?
[02:08] <nunu> thx apokryphos
[02:08] <bimberi> boulkn: sudo ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.2.1
[02:08] <bimberi> (for example)
[02:09] <AllesMeins> Hi - since yesterday i noticed an annoying behavior (on edgy). The screensaver starts while watching movies in fullscreen (tried it in totem, gxine and mplayer) - this was not the case a few days ago, but i didn't change much besides the installation of the nvidia drivers. Any hints how to fix this problem without having to manually deactivate it every time?
[02:11] <robdeman> hi gang
[02:12] <Peebo> Guday
[02:12] <robdeman> i am trying to compile mencoder on my 6.06 LTS Ubuntu server
[02:12] <g2for> when i execute x86cfg i get command not found, can somebody help me
[02:12] <robdeman> it says 'GCC 2.96 IS NOT AND WILL NOT BE SUPPORTED BY US !'
[02:12] <robdeman> and '*** Please downgrade/upgrade C compiler to version gcc-2.95, 3.x or 4.x! ***'
[02:13] <Hit3k> Are there e17 packages for ubuntu?
[02:17] <Peebo> Hows it go-in burepe
[02:17] <bimberi> !xconfig | g2for
[02:17] <ubotu> g2for: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:18] <IdleOne> bimberi: how do I get version of application  with apt-cache search?
[02:18] <IdleOne> is it even possible
[02:19] <bimberi> IdleOne: apt-cache show package (not sure about search though)
[02:19] <burepe> peebo just takin a break
[02:20] <IdleOne> well I can search for package and when I have the name then I can show . thanks bimberi
[02:20] <bimberi> IdleOne: np :)
[02:20] <Peebo> Yeah I thinkin of a Coffee
[02:21] <Peebo> So do you have a Japanese girlfriend, how long you been there.
[02:21] <Music_Shuffle> Uhh...what?
[02:23] <burepe> I did. we broke up a little while ago. we met in the us after I came back from Japan. I came as an exchange student 6 years ago for one year then came back 3 years ago.
[02:24] <Peebo> I used to have a thing for Japanese girls. I used to be a tour guide in the Northern Territory of Australia.
[02:27] <boulkn> im migrating my old server to ubuntu .. i've copied some of the old entries in /etc/passwd
[02:27] <burepe> they are nice aren't they
[02:28] <NESFreak> what kind a server?
[02:28] <fotoflo_> hi all
[02:29] <boulkn> how do i set passwd for users .. cos /etc/shadow doesn't exist
[02:29] <LameBMX> passwd username fotoflo_
[02:29] <LameBMX> then enter tha pass in
[02:29] <J_P> hey, how I change date from one file ?
[02:30] <fotoflo_> im trying to setup a samba server and ive got a very simple question that applies to lots of thigns: iver got a /etc/samba/smb.conf and a /user/share/samba/smb.conf how do i know which one to edit?
[02:30] <boulkn> i think removing the :x: solves stuff
[02:30] <boulkn> works now
[02:30] <Peebo> Very Very
[02:31] <martii> hi
[02:31] <martii> I'd like to run netboot install
[02:31] <NoEvidenZ> Hi again.. I'm having trouble with my wireless network card.
[02:31] <martii> I downloaded this small image
[02:31] <martii> cd image
[02:31] <Peebo> I have shagged almost every nationality and Japanese girls rate very very high.
[02:31] <LameBMX> !samba
[02:31] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:31] <martii> now question is: is there ssh available?
[02:32] <martii> and is installer capable of using socks proxy
[02:32] <NoEvidenZ> LameBMX: Will that help if I'm trying to connect directly to my router?
[02:32] <Peebo> So damn sexy to look at too
[02:33] <idleone> Peebo: lol
[02:33] <idleone> Peebo: family friendly channel here
[02:34] <NoEvidenZ> IdleOne: You saying japanese chicks aren't friendly?
[02:34] <Peebo> well to the yanks a shag is a kind of dance, you have to be Aussie to know it's real meaning
[02:34] <LameBMX> NoEvidenZ, that was for someone else in the chan ... as for wifi i dont have a clue .. i got a usb adapter and it was easier to move the router closer to the computer lol
[02:34] <IdleOne> NoEvidenZ: hahahaha that isnt what Im saying. just saying that perhaps japanese chicks are better discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:34] <NoEvidenZ> LameBMX: Argh.. my router's at the other end of the house. For a reason..
[02:35] <LameBMX> Peebo, i love that dance
[02:35] <Music_Shuffle> !offtopic
[02:35] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:35] <Peebo> I try to dance that dance at least 6 times a week
[02:35] <LameBMX> NoEvidenZ, so was mine lol .. but im not gonna play with my lappy outside till summer so that gives me a few months to play without having a 50' ethernet cable strung throughout my apartment
[02:35] <Jaggz-> what's hoary hedgehog's package-making facility called?
[02:36] <LameBMX> Peebo, my love of that dance depends strictly on how good my partner is
[02:36] <Jaggz-> I just compiled/installed vim7.0 into ~/temp/vim70/  and I want to make a package of that that I can uninstall
[02:36] <NoEvidenZ> LameBMX: Damn.. It's the only way I can connect to my network, too. =/
[02:36] <SPUCK_> ** Where can i see XGL in action? some video to watch around?
[02:36] <LameBMX> NoEvidenZ, does ur wireless card show up ...
[02:36] <LameBMX> ie is this lets get the card to work .. or lets configure the card
[02:37] <Peebo> I'm very lucky there, married 2 years now, this time round
[02:37] <IdleOne> SPUCK_: search google Im sure there is a preview somewhere
[02:37] <Jaggz-> I'm coming up on my 14th anniversary with my chick!
[02:37] <Music_Shuffle> .!has nothing to do with support
[02:37] <LameBMX> nice nice ...
[02:37] <J_P> hey, how I change datetime from one file ?
[02:37] <NoEvidenZ> Well it shows up as ath0, but it's appearing as "Unknown Interface", and I can't get it to connect to my router.
[02:38] <SPUCK_> ok IdleOne, i just wanted to ask if someone could let me see how they have configured theirs ;)
[02:38] <cypher1> SPUCK_, there are lot of videos in youtube
[02:38] <NoEvidenZ> So i'm not sure if it's the card not working or the configuration.
[02:38] <Peebo> 7 years first wife, 3 years single, 7 years defacto, 2 years single, 2 years married(current)
[02:38] <Jaggz-> how do I make a package out of a path?
[02:38] <LameBMX> well sounds like its there and just needs configured ...
[02:38] <LameBMX> !wifi
[02:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:38] <Peebo> use a lot of string
[02:38] <NoEvidenZ> Thanks
[02:39] <phatlip> hey guys, running ubuntu dapper, with nvidia drivers installed - but i get artifacting when i drag windows around or minimise them, or drag internal frames larger or smaller.
[02:39] <phatlip> is this normal or is something not set-up correctly?
[02:39] <LameBMX> NoEvidenZ, you will prolly have to edit /etc/network i think it is and put in your routers essid etc
[02:39] <Music_Shuffle> phatlip, no its not.
[02:39] <Music_Shuffle> I had that issue when pushing my RAM timings too quick, but I dunno if you're overclocking or not.
[02:40] <phatlip> should be stock, anyway to know for sure?
[02:40] <paolo1>  hi. I can't hear audio from my sound card, but it appears installed. How should I proceed? thnks...
[02:40] <VMT2007> paolo1: is it a laptop?
[02:40] <k0> anyone else get this on edgy the boot on system check keeps on hanging
[02:40] <LameBMX> Music_Shuffle, thanx for remindin me ... things seems stable in my os ... time to oc some
[02:40] <LameBMX> :0
[02:41] <Music_Shuffle> phatlip, check in the BIOS? Assuming its OEM, it should be stock.
[02:41] <NoEvidenZ> Thank you, LameBMX, I think I just found the problem.
[02:41] <Peebo> paolo: go to System menu then preferences then sound and check the settings and do the test
[02:41] <Music_Shuffle> In which case...its a memory/GPU issue.
[02:41] <VMT2007> haha, gnome
[02:41] <NoEvidenZ> I'll let you know if i did.
[02:41] <LameBMX> NoEvidenZ, thats good to hear .. anytime thats what we are here for
[02:41] <LameBMX> fine then leave
[02:42] <LameBMX> lol
[02:42] <Peebo> I don't think he heard you Lame
[02:42] <Peebo> lol
[02:42] <VMT2007> does the mouse cursor usually show in KDM
[02:42] <Music_Shuffle> ....yes.
[02:42] <VMT2007> damn it
[02:42] <VMT2007> doesn't for me
[02:42] <phatlip> Music_Shuffle: no, i built the system but on windows i ran a nvidia app that 'optimised' the settings.
[02:42] <Music_Shuffle> They -are- supposed to do that. :X
[02:43] <k0> where is the boot logs?
[02:43] <phatlip> maybe i'll try resetting to defaults.
[02:43] <Music_Shuffle> phatlip, err...yeah.
[02:43] <paolo1> Peebo: all is correctly set. but if I test it with test sound, it doesn't work
[02:43] <Music_Shuffle> That's what's done it then.
[02:43] <paolo1> VMT2007: it's a PC
[02:43] <VMT2007> paolol: AC97 sound?
[02:43] <yellowbee> www.myspace.com/doggerdan <---- New myspace XSS exploit PoC (proff of concept)
[02:44] <paolo1> VMT2007: what's AC97?
[02:44] <Music_Shuffle> !offtopic
[02:44] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:44] <VMT2007> eh, what sound card do you have?
[02:44] <paolo1> VMT2007: wait a sec
[02:44] <zzz5433> hi is there anyway to check if OpenGL is enabled, I just upgraded nvidia drivers
[02:44] <xipietotec> It's funny, I don't feel bad using software from the mid 70's....but somehow I have a problem using an audio codec from 1997
[02:44] <phatlip> yellowbee: i'd like to assume that no one here uses myspace
[02:44] <VMT2007> zzz5433: try running a GL screensaver
[02:45] <VMT2007> idiot
[02:45] <phatlip> zzz5433: nvidia-settings
[02:45] <Music_Shuffle> ....lol.
[02:45] <paolo1> VMT2007: Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[02:45] <VMT2007> hmm
[02:45] <VMT2007> gee that should work just fine
[02:45] <Peebo> paolol: I have 5 selections in preferences for my sound card 2 with the same name but on works a whole lot better than the other
[02:45] <VMT2007> did you check with alsamixer
[02:46] <paolo1> VMT2007: notice that I've got the card's name with lspci
[02:47] <VMT2007> well
[02:47] <paolo1> VMT2007: what's alsamixer?
[02:47] <zzz5433> phatlip, I see nvidia settings, what am I looking for
[02:47] <VMT2007> go into a terminal
[02:47] <VMT2007> run alsamixer
[02:47] <Jaggz-> I'll talk to you guys later.. :)
[02:47] <Music_Shuffle> 'OpenGL: enabled' is what you're looking for.
[02:47] <VMT2007> !sound
[02:47] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:47] <Music_Shuffle> Or something along those lines.
[02:47] <Peebo> seezyalaidher
[02:47] <VMT2007> Where do I post a howto?
[02:47] <pawlix82> hello
[02:48] <Music_Shuffle> !hello | pawlix82
[02:48] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[02:48] <IdleOne> VMT2007: wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:48] <Music_Shuffle> Err...
[02:48] <Music_Shuffle> !welcome | pawlix82
[02:48] <ubotu> pawlix82: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[02:48] <Music_Shuffle> There we go xD
[02:48] <Peebo> ubotu has humour
[02:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about has humour - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <paolo1> VMT2007: in the sound icon, it appears KMIXER
[02:48] <paolo1> not alsamixer
[02:49] <phatlip> !windows
[02:49] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:49] <phatlip> haha
[02:49] <Peebo> lol  good one
[02:50] <VMT2007> HEY GUYS I CAN'T RUN MIRC WITH WINE, CAN ANYBODY HELP. :x
[02:50] <Music_Shuffle> !caps
[02:50] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:50] <Music_Shuffle> :P
[02:50] <jpotex> Still no offical DVD of the new version?
[02:50] <VMT2007> there is no offical one
[02:50] <VMT2007> or official
[02:50] <Peebo> The very first RedHat I had a bought the manual for and int eh Index under Microsoft it said "See Evil Empire", under Evil Empire it gave the lowdown on Microsnot
[02:50] <VMT2007> god why do I taste beer...
[02:51] <jpotex> VMT2007: Ok :( Do you know when there will be one? I'm tierd of all cdversions
[02:51] <VMT2007> jpotex: why do you really need a DVD version
[02:51] <Peebo> You taste beer you guzzle it
[02:51] <VMT2007> the entire OS (even Kubuntu) fits on one CD
[02:51] <zzz5433> Music, where in Kubuntu is an open gl screensaver?
[02:51] <jpotex> VMT2007: I haven't bought cds for burning for like 1 year now
[02:52] <Peebo> What the CD does not have apt-get install will fix
[02:52] <VMT2007> burn the ISOs to DVDs
[02:52] <VMT2007> easy :)
[02:52] <jpotex> Err. No. NERO doesn't like my tries to burn on a dvd
[02:52] <jpotex> SONIC either
[02:52] <VMT2007> well
[02:52] <VMT2007> try this
[02:53] <VMT2007> you're on windows...?
[02:53] <VMT2007> damn man I'll mail you a copy lol
[02:53] <jpotex> Hehe :) Yes
[02:53] <VMT2007> or you can buy it
[02:53] <VMT2007> or you can go and steal some CD-Rs from your neighbors
[02:53] <jpotex> Nah
[02:53] <jpotex> I don't buy things I can download
[02:53] <VMT2007> well
[02:54] <VMT2007> CD-Rs are damn cheap, why can't he just buy some...
[02:54] <VMT2007> lol
[02:54] <Anton99> Please help!!! Win98 setup is formatted all my disk :( and now i can't create more than 1 primary partition :( how i can restore my data? i use gParted (sorry for gramatical errors)
[02:54] <vali75> hy
[02:54] <Peebo> jpotex: it will be great when we can download hardware
[02:54] <Music_Shuffle> Uhh. If your HDD is formatted over, you're sorta...in trouble.
[02:54] <vali75> i need help
[02:54] <Music_Shuffle> !anyone
[02:54] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:54] <Music_Shuffle> !ask
[02:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:55] <vali75> how can i install KDE in ubuntu
[02:55] <vali75> ?
[02:55] <VMT2007> vali75: sudo apt-get install kde
[02:55] <VMT2007> :)
[02:55] <Music_Shuffle> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[02:55] <vali75> 10x
[02:55] <VMT2007> if it's a fresh install you could just install kubuntu
[02:55] <VMT2007> Music_Shuffle: bad idea
[02:55] <Peebo> Anton99: there is software that will recover your data
[02:55] <vali75> loged in GUI?
[02:55] <Anton99> Music_Shuffle, but this is a quick fofmat
[02:55] <VMT2007> Peebo: that's very risky
[02:56] <Music_Shuffle> Anton99, doesn't change it much.
[02:56] <vali75> then how?
[02:56] <Peebo> Anton99: You need to put another drive in the PC to recover the data to tho
[02:56] <Music_Shuffle> !kde | vali75
[02:56] <ubotu> vali75: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[02:56] <Music_Shuffle> See? Factoid votes with me! :P
[02:56] <VMT2007> yeah and you can also render your hdd useless
[02:57] <Anton99> Peebo, but what software can restore my data? PC is guarantied and i haven't  rights to open this pc cover :(
[02:57] <VMT2007> Anton99: if it's still running 98 I'm surprised it's still under warranty
[02:57] <Vizio> !install
[02:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:57] <VMT2007> !botabuse
[02:57] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:57] <Peebo> Anton99:  Dewd ur in the sh*t
[02:57] <Music_Shuffle> Anton99, you're pretty limited in your options.  Programs that allow you to recover, or a professional service to do so, are the only options.
[02:58] <VMT2007> they let you open the machine while it's under warranty in most cases now
[02:58] <Music_Shuffle> Or option 3: Forget the data and hope nothing was too important.
[02:58] <Anton99> Music_Shuffle, i have LiveCD and from that i can run Linux programs (Linux Ubuntu 6.06 LiveCD)
[02:58] <Peebo> Music: that;'s about the size of it.
[02:58] <vali75> me2
[02:58] <VMT2007> now, why did you install Windows 98, lol
[02:59] <phatlip> Anton99: try spinrite from grc.com
[02:59] <Music_Shuffle> Ok. But...the data is still...ka-boom, ka-poof, ker-splunk.
[02:59] <Music_Shuffle> If you're formatted the disk.
[02:59] <Music_Shuffle> you've*
[02:59] <vali75> windows is a..........i don`t can say.:)
[02:59] <SPUCK_> to recover deleted files on Ubuntu, what program should i use?
[03:00] <Music_Shuffle> !delet
[03:00] <Music_Shuffle> !delete
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about delet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <SPUCK_> xDDD
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about delete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <Music_Shuffle> Hmm, doesn't exist? Bother.
[03:00] <Anton99> This is Win98 :) BUT THIS WILL BE A QUICK FORMAT! cat /dev/hda shows all my data
[03:00] <Peebo> I don't know of any Linux recovery programs. I have a Windows PE (similar to Linux Live) disc and have incorporated some recover software in it.
[03:00] <phatlip> oh right, throw new FailedToReadQuestionException()
[03:00] <zzz9393> how can i test is open gl is active
[03:00] <nauj27> zzz9393: glxinfo
[03:00] <vali75> yah
[03:00] <Music_Shuffle> Anton99, unless you're formatting a blank partition, the data is going away. Simple.
[03:00] <nauj27> zzz9393: look for Direct rendering line
[03:01] <Peebo> Anton99: have you got an external drive firewire or USB2
[03:01] <SPUCK_> !recover deleted files
[03:01] <ubotu> recover: Undelete files on ext2 partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3c-10 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB
[03:01] <vali75> how can i change resolution in ubuntu?
[03:01] <Music_Shuffle> !resolution | vali75
[03:01] <ubotu> vali75: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:01] <martin__> #ubuntu-fr
[03:01] <Music_Shuffle> ./join channelname
[03:01] <Peebo> !screen
[03:01] <zzz9393> direct rendering: Yes
[03:01] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[03:01] <Music_Shuffle> zzz9393, then you're set.
[03:02] <sparkicks> can anyone help me with an odd problem im getting... the wifi internet works when i boot from live cd but not when i bott from the installed version on the hdd ive tried to reinstall but it doesnt make a difference...
[03:02] <robdeman> hey folks
[03:02] <nauj27> zzz9393: great, now try glxgears   :)
[03:02] <zzz9393> thanks!
[03:02] <sparkicks> boot*
[03:02] <Music_Shuffle> !welcome | robdeman
[03:02] <ubotu> robdeman: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[03:02] <Music_Shuffle> GL :D
[03:02] <VMT2007> sparkicks: what wireless card do you have
[03:02] <robdeman> how can I search my complete machine for files ending with *.mov ?
[03:02] <kane77> hi
[03:02] <sparkicks> no idea took it out of an old comp
[03:02] <Peebo> Anton99: Without a second drive you are not recovering anything useful
[03:02] <VMT2007> robdeman: locate .mov
[03:02] <Anton99> Music_Shuffle, but i have only one FAT16 partition (size 74.12 GB)
[03:02] <VMT2007> sparkicks: lspci
[03:03] <Music_Shuffle> Uhh, then make another and move your data to it.
[03:03] <sparkicks> is there any reason why it wouldnt work on the hdd boot and would on the live cd...?
[03:03] <Music_Shuffle> Unles...you want the stuff gone.
[03:03] <VMT2007> sparkicks: could be several
[03:03] <Peebo> Anton99: NDD if you can find it, on floppy
[03:03] <VMT2007> sparkicks: do lspci in a terminal and look for your adapter
[03:03] <sparkicks> k
[03:03] <Anton99> Peebo, ok, but where i can download this NDD?
[03:03] <k0> is e2fsck safe to use?
[03:04] <kane77> I'd like to do this advanced thing: I have a lot of .zip and .rar files... I would like to unzip all of .psd files that are inside the archives to one directory and name them according to archive they were in... is it possible??
[03:04] <VMT2007> man unzip
[03:04] <Peebo> Norton Disk Doctor for DOS, try P2P. I have it buried somewhere maybe still in Darwin, 3000Kms away.
[03:05] <sparkicks> ok got it texas instruments  acx 100 22Mmbps wireless interface
[03:05] <Peebo> Your looking at 10 year old +   software
[03:06] <Alakazamz0r> l33t
[03:06] <Anton99> Peebo: but on this disk i have LICENCED vmware, NeroLinux and other pay soft... :(
[03:06] <VMT2007> http://acx100.sourceforge.net/
[03:06] <VMT2007> sparkicks: you may want to also download the linux headers
[03:06] <VMT2007> since you're compiling a kernel module in this case
[03:06] <sparkicks> yea but that doesnt really explain why it will work on live cd...
[03:06] <selinuxium> hi all, why is it that in Terminal Services XDMCP is greyed out? I can connect by switching user and starting XDMCp from there...
[03:06] <Peebo> Without a second hard drive NDD on Fat 16 is your only hope
[03:07] <sparkicks> is there anything that isnt by default installed that you can install manually? like extra list of drivers or osmething
[03:07] <kane77> VMT2007, but what about renaming them to their originating archive?
[03:07] <VMT2007> oh wait
[03:07] <VMT2007> sparkicks: ubuntu comes with acx100 drivers
[03:07] <VMT2007> are you SURE it doesn't detect them
[03:07] <sparkicks> but are they installed by default?
[03:07] <Alakazamz0r> peter norton is a waaaankkkkerrrrr
[03:08] <VMT2007> kane77: as in preserving directory names
[03:08] <VMT2007> ?
[03:08] <sparkicks> i nvr said it didnt detect them i just said hte internet wont work this is my first time using linux
[03:08] <sparkicks> the*
[03:08] <robdeman> can anybody help me with a simple Apache location thing?
[03:08] <Anton99> Peebo: can i use Partition Magic for this? (Data recovery)? and where i can get Win32 Live CD?
[03:08] <Music_Shuffle> !inappropriate | Alakazamz0r
[03:08] <ubotu> Alakazamz0r: The current discussion topic is inappropriate for this channel. Please stop.
[03:08] <robdeman> my default site is in /home/rob/www/
[03:08] <SPUCK_> Windows PE?
[03:08] <Alakazamz0r> sorry
[03:08] <vali75> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf there are some line that says
[03:08] <vali75> SubSection "Display"
[03:08] <vali75> 		Depth		24
[03:08] <vali75> 		Modes		"1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480" "640x400"
[03:08] <vali75> 	EndSubSection
[03:08] <vali75> EndSection
[03:08] <robdeman> but I need /files to point to /home/rob/files/
[03:08] <Peebo> The clock just turned over to another day here so I'm off to bed. The wife is 15 years younger than me so I have to keep her happy. Night All O:-)
[03:08] <robdeman> outside the www dir
[03:08] <Music_Shuffle> !pastebin | vali75
[03:08] <ubotu> vali75: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:08] <Nvening> what data do you need recovered?
[03:09] <VMT2007> !networkmanager | sparkicks
[03:09] <ubotu> sparkicks: networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[03:09] <Music_Shuffle> Night Peebo
[03:09] <Peebo> You don't get it you make it from your your existing XP disk and the BArt PE utility
[03:09] <Peebo> Night Music_
[03:09] <vali75> should i modify tjhe first lines with 1024x768?
[03:09] <sparkicks> it seems to be connected which is strange... it has a tick beside the wireless setting in the window
[03:09] <Music_Shuffle> Nvening, he wants to reformat his disk to get Win98 running and still keep his data, I have no idea what to tell him at this point.  I went through the obvious solutions already.
[03:10] <VMT2007> sparkicks: just install network-manager
[03:10] <kane77> VMT2007, no I would like to name the files according to archive they come from so file anything.psd that's packed in something.zip would become something.psd...
[03:10] <VMT2007> it handles the wirless stuff for you
[03:10] <Peebo> If I had a faster uplink I'd send an ISO to you but it's only 128K up
[03:10] <Nvening> does he want to dual boot with ubuntu then?
[03:10] <VMT2007> kane77: oh that's not possible without a shell script or something
[03:10] <Music_Shuffle> Nvening, no, he seems to want to recover data post-reformat. >.>
[03:10] <kane77> VMT2007, ok... thanx
[03:10] <Nvening> oh
[03:10] <kane77> VMT2007, I'll try to write one :D
[03:11] <vali75> it works?
[03:11] <VMT2007> kane77: good luck with that, rofl
[03:11] <Nvening> well i ahve done that before
[03:11] <Peebo> Ok I'm off like week old cheese in the sun.   Night all, Happy new year (belatedly)
[03:11] <Nvening> u use get data back from runtime.org
[03:11] <Nvening> but its not free
[03:11] <Nvening> good though
[03:11] <the_mug> howdy all.
[03:11] <vali75> to change the resoluton from 1600x... to 1024?
[03:11] <Anton99> Nvening: all data from /dev/hda Also i need Windows PE
[03:11] <Nvening> and can be loaded onto a bartpe
[03:11] <Music_Shuffle> Well, he needs to know that, I don't plan to muck about with it :P
[03:12] <Nvening> do you have a copy of windows on disk then?
[03:12] <kane77> VMT2007, wouldnt it be possible to unzip the files from something.zip to directory named something and then renaming all the files in that directory (if multiple files are extracted) to something.psd, something-1.psd etc...?
[03:12] <Nvening> so this is your data which has been stored on your computer while using ubuntu?
[03:12] <the_mug> I'm getting this: ifdown: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: No such file or directory when I do a `sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart` any ideas why?
[03:12] <IntuitiveNipple> Anyone got extensive experience in altering (NTFS) partition sizes using fdisk, and specifically what boundaries to align partitions on?
[03:13] <the_mug> obviously the statefile is _not_ there... the question is why? :-/
[03:13] <Anton99> Nvening, no... in this disk i have only Linux Ubuntu 6.06 & SWAP Space, but i have Win98 & WinXP Install disks
[03:13] <VMT2007> kane77: not with a huge command line and I'm not that keen with that
[03:13] <Nvening> so you have accidentally formatted your data or what?
[03:13] <sparkicks> network manager cant be installed on this system (i386)
[03:14] <VMT2007> sparkicks: are you joking?
[03:14] <sparkicks> nope
[03:14] <VMT2007> what error does it show
[03:14] <sparkicks> that is the error
[03:14] <VMT2007> did you install it with aptitude/synaptic
[03:14] <sparkicks> and "either the aplication requires special hard ware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type"
[03:14] <IdleOne> wow
[03:14] <IdleOne> that is odd
[03:14] <VMT2007> sparkicks: do ifconfig -a and pastebin the resulst
[03:14] <Anton99> Nvening, win98 setup is formatted this disk to fat16, but witch quick formkat (cat /dev/hda shows all my data)
[03:14] <VMT2007> results
[03:15] <FLiPeR> anyone used Qemu......?on Dapper Drake?i need a tip on what SDL library to install.....Cuz i get a "cannot open SDL display...:D
[03:15] <VMT2007> as in don't paste it to the channel
[03:15] <VMT2007> !pastebin | sparkicks
[03:15] <ubotu> sparkicks: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:15] <sparkicks> btw just to say im using a idfferent pc to access irc
[03:15] <VMT2007> oh boy
[03:15] <sparkicks> lol how do you think i got on :p
[03:15] <VMT2007> ethernet
[03:15] <VMT2007> :)
[03:15] <sparkicks> im trying at least to access the router but i cant get it
[03:15] <VMT2007> hmm
[03:16] <VMT2007> just go to the machine and do iwconfig
[03:16] <fotoflo_> !swatr
[03:16] <Nvening> what do you mean it shows all your data??
[03:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swatr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:16] <sparkicks> ROFL
[03:16] <sparkicks> ipconfig cmd not found
[03:16] <Nvening> even if you quick format it will delete it
[03:16] <VMT2007> not ipconfig
[03:16] <VMT2007> iwconfig
[03:16] <k0> anyone know how u can change amount of mounts before a system check is executed
[03:16] <k0> ??
[03:16] <sparkicks> oh..
[03:16] <Enurom> Bonjour  tout le monde :)
[03:16] <VMT2007> ipconfig is windows :)
[03:17] <sparkicks> yea thats waht im used to
[03:17] <Anton99> Nvening, but grub still can load linux kernel...
[03:17] <sparkicks> well -a no device found just iwconfig brings up a lot.. want me to type it in?
[03:17] <Nvening> lol, i think i am missing some information now
[03:17] <Nvening> brb
[03:17] <VMT2007> do they all say "no wireless extensions"
[03:17] <fotoflo_> !swatt
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swatt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <VMT2007> if not one of your wireless adapters is working
[03:18] <sparkicks> no
[03:18] <sparkicks> wlan0 has stuff up
[03:18] <fiandre> I have this pci sound card: Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01). Unfortunately it's onboard on a very "windows friend" motherboard and therefore it doesn't work correctly.  So: do you know where I can find the drivers? thnks
[03:18] <VMT2007> good
[03:18] <k0> anyone help me please?
[03:18] <VMT2007> that's your adapter
[03:18] <sparkicks> sit0 has no wireless  extensions
[03:18] <VMT2007> now, is it ubuntu or kubuntu
[03:18] <YodaCane> !list
[03:18] <VMT2007> or *sigh* xubuntu
[03:18] <fiandre> VMT2007: after rebooting it worked. but it works badly
[03:18] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:18] <sparkicks> ubuntu
[03:18] <Nvening> anton
[03:18] <fotoflo_> !swat
[03:18] <fotoflo_> whoops
[03:19] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:19] <VMT2007> fiandre: err?
[03:19] <FLiPeR> anyone used Qemu......?on Dapper Drake?i need a tip on what SDL library to install.....Cuz i get a "cannot open SDL display...:D
[03:19] <Nvening> anton99, it think its best you create a post on ubuntuforums.org so you can explain thhttp://www.eclipsecomputers.com/product.aspx?code=MOB-2225S1W&af=50roblem in full
[03:19] <sparkicks> it hquality 60 str 48 so it is getting something
[03:19] <sparkicks> quality*
[03:19] <fiandre> VMT2007: i was formerly known as paolo1:)
[03:19] <VMT2007> sparkicks: system > administration > networking
[03:20] <Nvening> erm that link wasnt supposed to go there lol
[03:20] <sparkicks> ok ive already configed the network key right and the ips
[03:20] <VMT2007> god what was I helping you with again
[03:20] <fotoflo_> ok i just installed swat and samba but nothing happens when i http to localhost:901
[03:20] <Nvening> well i mean if you want a cheap 22" tft then have a look http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/product.aspx?code=MOB-2225S1W&af=50
[03:20] <Anton99> Nvening, I badly know English... :(
[03:21] <VMT2007> i'm not logging
[03:21] <k0> where is the conf for the amount of mounts before a system check is done??
[03:21] <Nvening> where are you from then?
[03:21] <gerhard> Anton99 sprichst du deutsch?
[03:21] <Anton99> gerhard, nein :)
[03:21] <Nvening> good
[03:22] <gerhard> soll ich bersetzen?
[03:22] <k0> someone please!
[03:22] <k0> its not that hard is it!
[03:22] <Nvening> i dont knowk0
[03:22] <Nvening> say it again
[03:22] <VMT2007> latvia
[03:22] <VMT2007> ...
[03:22] <rich8495> My computer won't turn off when I select turn off computer, what could it be?
[03:22] <IdleOne> k0: what is the problem you saying please help me 10 times doesnt tell us what you need help with
[03:22] <Anton99> Nvening, i am from Latvia, but can speak polish, russian, latvian...
[03:22] <k0> lol
[03:22] <rich8495> I recently downloaded automatix2, could that be the problem
[03:22] <Nvening> rich, mabe a hardware problem
[03:22] <robdeman> why is /var/logs/apache2/access.log empty
[03:22] <Lynoure> k0: it's in tune2fs
[03:22] <robdeman> ??
[03:22] <gerhard> rich8495 try sudo shutdown -h now
[03:22] <VMT2007> spanish?
[03:23] <Nvening> rich, what happens when you press it
[03:23] <k0> cheers mate
[03:23] <VMT2007> Anton99: try rusnet
[03:23] <k0> well some1 was paying attention
[03:23] <VMT2007> i _THINK_ they have an ubuntu channel there
[03:23] <trinitrogen> I just went though the process of mounting network shares in fstab, I did a test one first (used the IP address), and then I changed the entry from IP address to the machine name and ran mount -a and the old mount is still on my desktop, how can I remove it?
[03:23] <Nvening> anton99 sopeaks german lol, we estabilshed that
[03:23] <Lynoure> k0: but the repeating was getting annoying :)
[03:23] <sparkicks> lol i can see your pretty busy but no ideas? take your time though
[03:23] <Nvening> it depends what you have installed with automatix
[03:24] <k0> i understand but its annoying wen u ask a question and no answer
[03:24] <Nvening> but i cant think of anything
[03:24] <VMT2007> sparkicks: network-manager really won't install?
[03:24] <VMT2007> do sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[03:24] <sparkicks> nope... but networking does just fine
[03:24] <k0> i guess i shud jjust repeat the question
[03:24] <wildchild> hello all
[03:24] <Lynoure> k0: Maybe, but not more than possibly once in 30min.
[03:25] <IdleOne> 1 in 15 minutes would be ok also
[03:25] <IdleOne> :)
[03:25] <wildchild> I changed some settings for monitor in system settings monitor and now after reboot kubuntu doesn't come into graphic mode :SS
[03:25] <k0> reasonable
 where is the conf for the amount of mounts before a system check is done??
[03:25] <Lynoure> k0: People here are volunteers, they help if they can
[03:25] <sparkicks> btw i assume default pass for root is nothing right?
[03:25] <vinboy> how do I make my console colorful?
[03:25] <sparkicks> asked me for pass just pressed enter and just got console again..
[03:26] <VMT2007> enter YOUR password
[03:26] <IdleOne> vinboy: open a console click edit and edit current profile or create a new profile
[03:26] <vinboy> VMT2007: what?
[03:26] <rich8495> is there a way to find out what packages I installed today
[03:26] <VMT2007> sudo is used as a way to keep the password out of greedy rooters' hands :)
[03:26] <k0> check man tune2fs
[03:26] <sparkicks> couldnt find package network-manager gnome
[03:26] <VMT2007> sparkicks: network-manager-gnome
[03:26] <VMT2007> just like that
[03:26] <sparkicks> yea sry network-manager-gnome
[03:27] <Duesentrieb> hi all
[03:27] <VMT2007> oh
[03:27] <sparkicks> couldnt find that
[03:27] <Duesentrieb> for some reason, my battery/ac monitor has stopped working
[03:27] <VMT2007> you need to enable all the repositories
[03:27] <Duesentrieb> as far as i can see, acpi doesn't have such a device any more.
[03:27] <sparkicks> :S
[03:27] <k0> Lynoure, is it a bad idea to change the default number of mounts to something higher
[03:27] <Duesentrieb> how can that happen?
[03:27] <Duesentrieb> how can i fix it?
[03:27] <Duesentrieb> any ideas?
[03:27] <rich8495> I can't remember a package I installed today, is there a way to search?
[03:28] <timbobsteve> hi all. I wanted to test FreeNX, so I was adding the seveas-edgy repo's and had to add a key using apt-key, but now after I try to apt-get update, even my normal repos tell me "PASS failed, server said: login incorrect"... how can I rescue it and get my normal repos working again?
[03:28] <Lynoure> k0: Depends on your use and motivation.
[03:28] <VMT2007> sparkicks: go to the synaptic package manager
[03:28] <VMT2007> options > repositories
[03:28] <VMT2007> enable multiverse
[03:28] <VMT2007> and restricted while you're at it
[03:29] <k0> Lynoure, well on these e2fsck checks the system keeps on hangin so
[03:29] <Lynoure> k0: and of course on how high...
[03:29] <sparkicks> is that add/remove programs?
[03:29] <VMT2007> no
[03:29] <sparkicks> got it
[03:29] <VMT2007> system > administration > synaptic package manager
[03:29] <VMT2007> settings > repositories
[03:30] <Lynoure> k0: It should not be the end of the world to have it a tad higher, but I would not recommend changing magnitudes
[03:30] <k0> Lynoure, turn the system check off shud be good i guess
[03:30] <VMT2007> check the first four under Ubuntu 6.10
[03:30] <VMT2007> or whatever you use
[03:30] <anaconda> ciao a tutti
[03:30] <VMT2007> if you're not using edgy just don't talk to me
[03:30] <IdleOne> lol VMT2007
[03:31] <anaconda> qualcuno potrebbe aiutarmi?
[03:31] <Lynoure> k0: Turning it all off can work, if you do it manually when you need to.
[03:31] <IdleOne> I upgraded to edgy last night so that means I can talk to you now
[03:31] <IdleOne> !it | anaconda
[03:31] <ubotu> anaconda: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:31] <sparkicks> ok enabled em all
[03:31] <k0> Lynoure, cheers dude.
[03:31] <VMT2007> good
[03:32] <VMT2007> close
[03:32] <VMT2007> click reload
[03:32] <mortal> when a configure-script asks for "X includes", what package is that? I have libx11-dev already.
[03:32] <mortal> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[03:32] <Lynoure> k0: you are welcome, miss :)
[03:32] <mortal> I already have libx11-dev and build-essentials
[03:32] <sparkicks> tries to download some
[03:32] <k0> miss???
[03:32] <RaSta_NN> hi all!
[03:32] <IdleOne> mortal:  what script?
[03:32] <sparkicks> everything just fails
[03:32] <mortal> ./configure
[03:33] <Lynoure> k0: I thought to try to find something as applicable as dude was to me :)
[03:33] <IdleOne> mortal: I mean what are you trying to install
[03:33] <mortal> for k3b
[03:33] <VMT2007> mortal: xorg-dev?
[03:33] <mortal> perhaps
[03:33] <k0> lol
[03:33] <k0> im sry jus automatically thought u know
[03:33] <IdleOne> mortal: sudo apt-get install k3b should do it for you and wont need to compile
[03:33] <Lynoure> k0: It's ok :)
[03:33] <mortal> VMT2007, didn't have that, downloading and installing now
[03:34] <mortal> IdleOne, I'm installing xorg-dev now
[03:34] <k0> Lynoure, thx miss ; )
[03:34] <IdleOne> k
[03:35] <gerhard> anyone who can help me with wine?
[03:35] <mortal> VMT2007, it worked! Now it needs some other libs, but I'll find them myself. Thanks.
[03:35] <zzz7433> is there a way to check the latest packages to install?
[03:35] <mortal> IdleOne, xorg-dev was what I needed! thanks anyway
[03:35] <IdleOne> mortal: yup
[03:36] <sparkicks> btw when i do iwconfig it goes rx invalid something 3 times does that mean anything to you?
[03:36] <robdeman> hi all.. when I set chmod 0744 to my directory I can access it from my browser - when I set 0644 it says Access denied...?
[03:37] <rogier> hello?
[03:37] <fdr> hello... sorry if the question is silly.... with xchat-gnome how do I get a side panel showing the list of the people in the channel? thank you!
[03:37] <rogier> at the right side
[03:37] <rogier> you can drag it out
[03:37] <rogier> if you now what i mean
[03:37] <IdleOne> hate to say this but Firefox is really blowing chunks lately...runs better on windows then on ubuntu :( crashes on me and when it doesnt crash it takes forever to load pages
[03:38] <rogier> do you understand frd?
[03:38] <fdr> rogier: i understand what you mean but can't find the panel
[03:38] <kane77> IdleOne, works fine for me...
[03:38] <pag> fdr, I think it's impossible in xchat-gnome.
[03:38] <rogier> i'm absolutly no expert
[03:38] <IdleOne> fdr:  in the settings I believe you need to enable nicklist
[03:38] <fdr> rogier: does it matter that i'm using xchat-gnome and not xchat?
[03:39] <gerhard> i need help with wine, who can I ask?
[03:39] <rogier> i dont know
[03:39] <gerhard> is there a help channel?
[03:39] <kane77> IdleOne, what version you use? (of firefox and ubuntu)
[03:39] <rogier> this is my first time using irc
[03:39] <IdleOne> gerhard: #winehq
[03:39] <space> Internet Related Question: I have a laptop, fresh install of Ubuntu 6.10 installed. When I put the ethernet cable in,nothing happens it doesnt even detect it. Im a complete novice with Linux but relatively computer literate. How can I get the internet working? Cheers
[03:39] <sselemanluos> which ruby bindings do people suggest? (tk,gtk, or qt are the ones I know of)
[03:39] <gerhard> fdr, there are slight differences
[03:39] <IdleOne> kane77:  6.10 firefox2.0
[03:39] <rogier> i use xchat
[03:39] <Nvening> i use gaim
[03:40] <fdr> IdleOne: where exactly in settings do I enable nicklist please?
[03:40] <basvg> hi guys.. I just upgraded dapper=>breezy and now my camorama (webcam viewer) doesn't work anymore... it clains there is no device. Any suggestions ?
[03:40] <rogier> can anyone help me with a problem with kmail
[03:40] <rogier> ?
[03:40] <queuetue> Hi.  Is there a simple tool that would make is easy for 'admin' types to manage FTP user accounts? (So they can add and remove clients that want to drop off files.)
[03:40] <IdleOne> fdr: poke around I dont use xchat-gnome but it should be in there .. probable under display
[03:41] <queuetue> By admin, I mean administration people, not system administrators. :)
[03:41] <rogier> i want to use gmail (pop) under kmail
[03:41] <rogier> but it gives a error
[03:41] <rogier> (edgy)
[03:41] <IdleOne> kane77:  thanks for offering but I have to run...catch you later tonight maybe and we can work this out :)
[03:41] <zzz7433> everything was fine and now my computer won't shut off
[03:41] <DStr0y> hello
[03:43] <jopy> basvg: you mean an upgrade to edgy?
[03:44] <laszlok> im going to be buying a new graphics card soon. Is there a page somewhere that lists which ones work well with ubuntu?
[03:44] <robdeman> hi folsk I need a SMTO server in my Ubuntu server... which one should I get?
[03:44] <robdeman> SMTP that is
[03:44] <rogier> i get "Could not start process pop3s." when i try to get my mial (from gmail) in Kmail, anyone can help my?
[03:45] <kbrosnan> IdleOne: one thing to try would be the firefox standard diagnostic http://kb.mozillazine.org/Standard_diagnostic_-_Firefox
[03:47] <jopy> if you want a original ubuntu cd, you have to buy edgy on shipit for 10 euro, will the next LTS release be free again? Or will all versions be paid?
[03:47] <basvg> does easycam2 not work with edgy? it doesn't seem tobe in the edgy repository
[03:48] <tenco> hi
[03:48] <hhanne> hi there. i've got some problems with ddclient. after a day or so, there are more instances of ddclient in the output of ps aux, how can I solve that problem?
[03:49] <tenco> my apt-get segfaults while parsing packages lists
[03:49] <tenco> right at the beginning
[03:49] <minikoma> *
[03:50] <Nvening> lts is free now isnt it?
[03:50] <Nvening> u have to pay for non LTS only right?
[03:51] <svr> hi
[03:51] <Nvening> hi
[03:51] <CheshireViking> anybody had problems with firefox in ubuntu after the latest update with pages with embedded flash objects causing it to crash? I've fixed mine using the "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" fix from the ubuntu guide
[03:52] <jopy> Nvening: I don't kno
[03:52] <jopy> *w
[03:52] <CheshireViking> i'd put it in originally to solve the problem before update, but after the update the problem came back & the line had been removed from the firefox file in /usr/bin
[03:52] <space> Hi Could somebody help me please with an internet connection related question
[03:53] <tenco> so, i am the only one who has that problem?
[03:54] <minikoma> hi
[03:54] <minikoma> [ihi hi hi
[03:54] <sroecker> hi
[03:54] <DrJohnston> hi
[03:54] <aoupi> tenco: that sounds very bad, does synaptic work?
[03:55] <kbrosnan> CheshireViking: that would make sense as the firefox update would likely overwite that file
[03:55] <tenco> aoupi, no, segfaults, too
[03:55] <sroecker> does the feisty initramfs include libgcc.so? I can't boot newer kernels
[03:55] <aoupi> tenco: does apt-get clean work?
[03:56] <tenco> aoupi, yes, it only segfaulst when it tries to parse package lists (afaics)
[03:56] <CheshireViking> kbrosnan: thought thats all it was, bit of a pain tho, just glad i remembered what to do
[03:57] <aoupi> tenco: have you tried apt-get update?
[03:58] <tenco> aoupi, yes.
[03:59] <jpoeta> frost
[03:59] <jpoeta> eres tu?
[03:59] <frost> si
[03:59] <frost> :D
[03:59] <jpoeta> cual era el link
[03:59] <frost> no as entrado a #linuxeando.org
[03:59] <frost> :P
[03:59] <jpoeta> del chat
[04:01] <DrJohnston> how can i reformat my girlfriend
[04:01] <DrJohnston> she's a bitch
[04:01] <frst> lol
[04:01] <fotoflo_> ok ive got samba installed and the server appears in my network browser on windows, but i cant log in - it dosnt even ask for a password
[04:02] <fotoflo_> anyone know how to fix this?
[04:02] <aoupi> tenco: http://www.techiegroups.com/t121933-segmentation-fault-in-aptget-update.html
[04:04] <unimatrix9> hi there
[04:04] <rogier> is there a dutch ubuntu chanel?
[04:04] <unimatrix9> any one using feisty right now
[04:04] <IdleOne> DrJohnston: lmfao you cant all you can do is see if you can upgrade
[04:04] <unimatrix9> ubuntu-nl
[04:04] <unimatrix9> rogier
[04:04] <damaltor> hello everybody
[04:04] <unimatrix9> so its channel #ubuntu-nl
[04:05] <rogier> thanks
[04:05] <unimatrix9> np
[04:05] <unimatrix9> might meet you there later...
[04:05] <unimatrix9> :)
[04:05] <k0> any good packet editors app
[04:05] <unimatrix9> also dutch over here...:P
[04:05] <k0> ?
[04:06] <Alakazamz0r> ima keeeeel you
[04:06] <tenco> aoupi, sudo rm -r /var/cache/apt/*.bin solved the problem. thanks!
[04:06] <Wanderer> anyone know if there's a sources repository for more advanced alsa drivers/binaries ?
[04:08] <DrJohnston>  i have 3 hard drives in my system.   if i boot up ONLY with the system drive the drive is recognized properly as sda1. although, if i plug in my backup drive it takes the assignment sda1 and i can't boot
[04:08] <linuxnewbie756> using dapper drake, how can i enable dapper backports?
[04:08] <DrJohnston> anyone know how i can fix this
[04:08] <apokryphos> linuxnewbie756: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[04:09] <tenco> aoupi: anyway, this leaves me wondering how that happened
[04:09] <castoff> DrJohnston have you tried swapping the cables?
[04:09] <gerhard> hi, I miss direct rendering and DRI. how must I set up my card properly?
[04:09] <gerhard> i have an x200 onboard chip by ati
[04:10] <tenco> aoupi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/73062/comments/20 looks interesting
[04:10] <DrJohnston>  i have 3 hard drives in my system.   if i boot up ONLY with the system drive the drive is recognized properly as sda1. although, if i plug in my backup drive it takes the assignment sda1 and i can't boot
[04:10] <aoupi> tenco: you problably hadn't mooed enough (apt-get moo)
[04:10] <Ferret> DrJohnston: It's a good job you repeated that, my 90 second memory was about to fail
[04:10] <IdleOne> hehe
[04:10] <gerhard> please, anyone!
[04:10] <unimatrix9> DrJohnston, there is an easy solution to this
[04:11] <linuxnewbie756> when it tells me to "uncomment", does that mean remove #
[04:11] <DrJohnston> unimatrix9 ?
[04:11] <gerhard> i need that graphics
[04:11] <IdleOne> linuxnewbie756: yes
[04:11] <unimatrix9> build in the backup drive in an usb external case
[04:11] <DrJohnston> i can't . they are in hot-swappable sata bays
[04:12] <DrJohnston> any other suggestions?
[04:13] <unimatrix9> Drjohnston : could be the following, the drive is on cable select and should be on slave? could you check?
[04:13] <gerhard> I miss direct rendering and DRI. how must I set up my card properly?
[04:13] <DrJohnston> the drives are SATA
[04:13] <DrJohnston> there are no cable select
[04:13] <unimatrix9> and salve /master?
[04:13] <unimatrix9> slave..
[04:13] <DrJohnston> no such thing
[04:13] <unimatrix9> :)
[04:14] <unimatrix9> hmm
[04:14] <DrJohnston> sata drives don't have the same thing..
[04:14] <castoff> DrJohnston is the hotswap with a scsi backplain?
[04:14] <unimatrix9> what about bios settings, that order the bootsequence?
[04:14] <DrJohnston> i'd have to double check...
[04:14] <Ferret> gerhard: Try http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide -- it has a setup, verifying, and troubleshooting section
[04:14] <gerhard> thx
[04:14] <castoff> DrJohnston if so look at the scsi id's
[04:15] <unimatrix9> who has feisty fawn running?
[04:16] <unimatrix9> i like to know some things about it
[04:16] <apokryphos> ubotu: feisty | unimatrix9
[04:16] <ubotu> unimatrix9: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[04:16] <IntuitiveNipple> DrJ: is it a simple case of interface order? as in, when the 'backup' drive is in place its on the '1st' interface (and gets sda), but when not there its skipped and the 'system' drive is assigned to sda ?#
[04:17] <svr> DrJohnston: i've also a problem with my sata drives...hd(0,0) is /dev/sdb in ubuntu an hd(1,0) is /dev/sda...make that sense?
[04:17] <unimatrix9> hehe, i mean user expirience...
[04:17] <svr> suse is doing this correkt
[04:17] <Ferret> svr: There isn't a 'correct' way
[04:17] <DrJohnston> Thanks for the suggestiosn guys i'm checkign right now
[04:18] <svr> Ferret: ok but how may i change this?
[04:18] <Ferret> svr: If you have a tendency to swap disks around while your system is off you can always use id notation, use the nodes in /dev/disk/ instead of /dev/[sh] d*, etc.
[04:19] <IntuitiveNipple> oooo disk experts!
[04:19] <IntuitiveNipple> lets try my Q again :)....
[04:19] <Ferret> no need for that
[04:19] <IntuitiveNipple> Any partition/fdisk gurus about? specifically with experience of resizing NTFS partitions and getting the correct boundary alignments on LBA disks?
[04:19] <Ferret> IntuitiveNipple: use cfdisk, it uses sensible notation
[04:20] <Ferret> Also, I have a nice link for that kind of partition resizing somewhere...
[04:20] <svr> Ferret: well if that work it will be engouth for me
[04:20] <xmOD> hey
[04:20] <damaltor> FORGET resizing ntfs partitions... just kicked off my 250G hdd...
[04:20] <aleksa> need little help
[04:20] <xmOD> am completely new to ubuntu and need some help
[04:20] <xmOD> can anybody help?
[04:20] <nalioth> xmOD: just ask your question  :)
[04:20] <IntuitiveNipple> not the issue, ferret. My issue is that, after ntfsresize of a 2nd primary partition, if i resize the partition entry Windows has problems booting (except in safe mode) although it CAN chkdsk and read the contents of the shrunk file system
[04:21] <canc> hello, is there somebody here who know the kmobiletools ?
[04:21] <Menisk> I need major help, my apt-get has broken weirdly. I tried "sudo apt-get install no-ip" and the it said "Segmentation fault"?
[04:21] <Ferret> IntuitiveNipple: Yeah, the guide I'm looking for tells you why that happens and how to stop it happening. ;p
[04:21] <koko__> hi
[04:21] <Menisk> Xmod, what do you need?
[04:21] <IntuitiveNipple> I've been playing about with different partition settings with fdisk, but as soon as I change the partition entry Windows 2003 Server has the problem - kinda strange, because if i set the partition to the original size but leave the file-system shrunk, it boots fine.
[04:21] <aleksa> I need help to :)
[04:22] <kyncani> !ask | xmOD
[04:22] <ubotu> xmOD: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:22] <fotoflo_> ditto
[04:22] <IntuitiveNipple> I know all about cylinder/track boundaries, but so far that hasn't solved it
[04:22] <IntuitiveNipple> Ferret: whats the document you're looking at?
[04:22] <nobodyLV> Are there any posibility to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty?
[04:22] <xmOD> well.. i wanted to setup the psp toolchain on ubuntu for programming but when i try to run the toolchain.sh it sez please make sure svn is installed.. can somebody tellme how to set up svn ?
[04:22] <nalioth> nobodyLV: join #ubuntu+1
[04:23] <Ferret> IntuitiveNipple: There are various possibilities such as resizing to an incorrect multiple in fdisk, forgetting to reset the Boot flag (probably not an issue here), and making sure to run chkdsk in a certain way once you boot... it's just a matter of working out which one to do.
[04:23] <nobodyLV> nalioth: tnx...
[04:23] <IntuitiveNipple> I've tried aligning the partition on the next track, and the next cylinder boundary, without success.
[04:23] <Ferret> IntuitiveNipple: Hrm, annoying... I'll see if I can find it.
[04:23] <Menisk> Dunno xmOD
[04:23] <xmOD> u dont know how to install svn?
[04:23] <Menisk> I need major help, my apt-get has broken weirdly. I tried "sudo apt-get install no-ip" and the it said "Segmentation fault"?
[04:23] <kyncani> !info subversion | xmOD
[04:23] <ubotu> subversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.2-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 203 kB, installed size 3020 kB
[04:23] <IntuitiveNipple> chkdsk is done, by default... this is purely the altered upper partition boundary. I'm beginning to wonder if its caused by a 3rd party app within Windows 2003 server
[04:24] <xmOD> i din get you kycani
[04:24] <dllh> xmOD: sudo apt-get install subversion
[04:24] <nalioth> xmOD: open synaptic and make sure all your repositories are enabled
[04:24] <nalioth> !tell xmOD about repos
[04:24] <IntuitiveNipple> Whats weird is, I can boot into 2003 fine with the shrunken file-system, but with the partition entry set to the original (larger) size.
[04:24] <Ferret> IntuitiveNipple: I don't think I'm going to be able to find the really neat and thorough document I'm thinking of; I have the link on my machine at home but I'm still away on holiday right now.
[04:25] <xmOD> sudo apt-get install subversion... so if i try this in terminal then svn is gonna install?
[04:25] <theorem71> gdm crash each boot...
[04:25] <Ferret> IntuitiveNipple: That's not particularly weird, depends on the filesystem
[04:25] <IntuitiveNipple> any keywords you can remember that i might Google for?
[04:25] <nalioth> xmOD: after you have confirmed all your repositories are enabled, 'search' for "subversion" and select it to be installed (also install cvs while you're at it)
[04:25] <Ferret> IntuitiveNipple: The filesystem driver doesn't usually look at the partition layout, it looks at its own idea of what the filesystem's extent is
[04:25] <kyncani> xmOD: you can also use synaptic, a graphical app to install packages
[04:25] <xmOD> @nalioth: how do i enable all repos?
[04:25] <IntuitiveNipple> thats it, which is why i find the current issue so weird
[04:26] <nalioth> xmOD: ubotu should have sent you a private message
[04:26] <Ferret> IntuitiveNipple: Did chkdsk run automatically after you rebooted, or did you have to do it manually?
[04:26] <xmOD> yeh sent me a msg
[04:26] <IntuitiveNipple> *something* in server 2k3 is having a problem with the partition upper boundary (or LBA size)
[04:26] <xmOD> well how do i get synaptic?
[04:26] <svish> sdfsdfwe
[04:26] <IntuitiveNipple> yeah, chkdsk is done and fine
[04:26] <nalioth> xmOD: synaptic comes with every Ubuntu system
[04:26] <svr> Ferret: /dev/disk/my-id dose'nt list my raid ...very strange
[04:26] <kyncani> xmOD: it's already installed, somewhere in a system menu
[04:26] <eitan> xtknight: u there
[04:27] <IntuitiveNipple> I've been working on this issue for 2 days now, so I've amassed a LOT of experience of it.
[04:27] <lonet_> HELP
[04:27] <Ferret> svr: What's the /dev/[hs] d* entries for your raid?
[04:27] <xmOD> ok i've opened synaptic.. now how to enable all the repos?
[04:27] <DrJohnston> 947 people in here buddy
[04:27] <Ferret> IntuitiveNipple: Well, the only obvious thing I can think of is that you're sticking the wrong numbers into fdisk and therefore ending up with a cut-off partition...
[04:27] <svr> Ferret: /dev/sda
[04:28] <nalioth> xmOD: ubotu should have sent you a URL.  the URL has pictures of how to do it  :)
[04:28] <xmOD> thx buddy
[04:28] <IntuitiveNipple> unfortunately, its not that! that'd be the simple answer!
[04:28] <xmOD> gonna try it and post the results
[04:28] <Ferret> svr: try 'ls -lR /dev | grep sda' to see if you have any persistent links anywhere (hopefully in /dev/disk)
[04:28] <svr> Ferret: under /dev/disk/by-path i found them
[04:28] <nalioth> xmOD: ubotu is a helpbot so that we don't have to repeat ourselves (and folks can help themselves)
[04:29] <IntuitiveNipple> With fdisk i've tried setting the partition size to the exact size of the file-system, to the next track boundary, and the next cylinder boundary. Very weird.
[04:29] <Ferret> IntuitiveNipple: Well, you said setting the partition bigger works, and setting it the correct size doesn't... how about setting it somewhere in between?
[04:29] <dosmanak> Hello, where i can get HOMAM3 for linux??
[04:29] <IntuitiveNipple> no, what i said was, setting the partition size to the ORIGINAL (larger) size before I shrank the file-system works.
[04:29] <aleksa1> Need help to setup network printer
[04:29] <rjp> ola
[04:30] <IntuitiveNipple> any other size seems to cause this lock-up during 2K3 boot (around the point the video drivers are initialized)
[04:30] <rjp> ola
[04:30] <rjp> tem alguem ai
[04:30] <Ferret> IntuitiveNipple: Are you sure it's any other size? Have you tried setting it to just below the original size?
[04:30] <eitan> need help building new kernel...I get  Begin: Waiting for root file system... error after doing this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158 , I need to know which "SATA options" to enable in qconf
[04:30] <DrJohnston> ah this makes no freakin sense
[04:31] <xmOD> also i dont have the disks program in the system>administration .. wat went wrong and how do i enable it?
[04:31] <Ferret> IntuitiveNipple: (for diagnostic purposes; because that would be absolute confirmation of either the resize failing or some annoying win2k3 program caching the partition layout)
[04:31] <IntuitiveNipple> I have, yes, but I know what you're getting at. It doesn't take me much to try other sizes... this is all makign me feel in my gut there's something during windows boot that is bothered by this
[04:32] <kyncani> xmOD: disks program ?? what's this ?
[04:32] <cperez> hello
[04:32] <VMT2007> Hmm
[04:32] <IntuitiveNipple> xmOD: I noticed that too! I assumed the doc was out of date
[04:32] <VMT2007> I have a Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical, 5btn
[04:32] <svr> Ferret: unter /dev/disk/by-path der are links to /dev/sda but i can't really work with that string all the time...is'nt there a posibility to change on boot hat hd0,0 is /dev/sda an hd1,0 is /dev/sdb and so on
[04:32] <VMT2007> I want to use the extra two buttons as back and forward buttons for web browsing
[04:32] <xmOD> @Apple: so wat do i do now?
[04:33] <VMT2007> on KDE
[04:33] <Ferret> IntuitiveNipple: Well, one place to check would be in services.msc in win2k3... there's a columnar layout there, and IIRC one of the columns can be set to 'manufacturer' -- look for any of them that aren't Microsoft; they're more likely to be to blame
[04:33] <VMT2007> Can anyone refer me to some docs?
[04:33] <Ferret> svr: I think that's possible but it's probably more difficult -- I'll have a look
[04:33] <vali75> yjredugf
[04:33] <svr> Ferret: thanks
[04:33] <IntuitiveNipple> Yeah, I've been examining the boot.log but it hasn't yielded any clues - I ALWAYS get the weird problems!
[04:34] <cperez> I not speeak in englis
[04:34] <IntuitiveNipple> I thought of a possible work-around earlier, about to try it...
[04:34] <cperez> alguien habla en espaol?
[04:34] <kyncani> !ubuntu-es
[04:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <cperez> soy espaola
[04:35] <kyncani> !es
[04:35] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:35] <IntuitiveNipple> ...  do the ntfsresize to shrink the file-system from Linux, fdisk to shrink the partition to the exact size of the file-system, then boot into Windows safe-mode and use diskpart to EXTEND the file-system by 1GB - hopefully Win2K3 would set the new partition size safely that way
[04:36] <cperez> k tal estais
[04:36] <IntuitiveNipple> After all, all i'm atttempting to do is free enough space so I can actually install Ubuntu!
[04:37] <trinitrogen> whats the command to find out what directory Im in
[04:37] <Menisk> VMT2007, which docs?
[04:37] <dllh> trinitrogen, pwd
[04:37] <iulian_> hello
[04:38] <John^Lennon> pwd
[04:38] <iulian_> who can help me to install a dns on ubuntu 6.06
[04:38] <iulian_> ?
[04:38] <svr> iulian_: apt-get install bind9
[04:39] <iulian_> after this :)
[04:39] <svr> iulian_: go to /etc/bind9 and look to the sample files
[04:39] <michael117> Is anyone else having trouble trying to visit the getautomatix.com homepage?
[04:40] <xmOD> my downloading speed is really really slow in ubuntu.. its about 7000 bytes/sec although i should get about 900kb/s .. wats wrong?
[04:40] <Ferret> svr: Not finding anything... grrr, wish I was on my home system where all my docs and saved links are. :)
[04:40] <IntuitiveNipple> xmOD: that can sometimes be caused by DNS resolution being slow/failing. check your resolv.conf
[04:40] <Ferret> svr: I'm thinking there must be some other way around this... how many different disk configurations do you boot up with?
[04:40] <michael117> xm0D: What are you downloading and where are you downloading it from?
[04:41] <svr> Ferret: may u can mail me if you are back home?
[04:41] <xmOD> its with all downloads ... nothing in particular
[04:41] <IntuitiveNipple> xmOD: do transfers seem to take a while to get initialised, too?
[04:41] <svr> Ferret: i tried everythink...as i say suse is doing this "right"
[04:41] <Falstius> anyone know the command to read back all of the hardware identification strings?  (not lspci)
[04:42] <nalioth> Falstius: console > sudo lshw
[04:42] <xmOD> yeah a little time
[04:42] <IntuitiveNipple> xmOD: that points to the slow/failing DNS resolution i metioned
[04:42] <mortal> does Ubuntu obey region codes? I can't read this DVD.
[04:42] <xmOD> how do i correct it?
[04:42] <Ferret> svr: suse uses the same kernel from the same place... it's just circumstantial resolution that it works for suse and not for ubuntu; it could easily be the other way around
[04:42] <IntuitiveNipple> check the DNS resolvers listed in your resolv.conf are working properly
[04:42] <Falstius> nalioth: thanks, it isn't quite what I used before but it works :)
[04:43] <nalioth> !tell mortal about dvd
[04:43] <xmOD> umm.. where is the resolv.conf.. sorry but i don know much, i jus installed 2 hrs ago
[04:43] <nalioth> IntuitiveNipple: he's brand new to Ubuntu. give him a minute or 3
[04:43] <Ferret> svr: An easy alternative I can think of that isn't great but will work is: to have two entries in your bootloader configuration, one for if you have only the main disk plugged in, and one for if you have both
[04:44] <michael117> xm0D: Most configuration files are located in /etc
[04:44] <svr> Ferret: i have a system disk suse and ubuntu on it (should be my booting disk)
[04:44] <IntuitiveNipple> xmOD: useful hint for this kind of thing. When unable to find files, use "find / -iname xyz*" to find possible candidates
[04:44] <svr> Ferret: and a RAID for containing data
[04:44] <xmOD> thx apple
[04:44] <IntuitiveNipple> xmOD: so, for this case, try: "find / -iname resolv.*
[04:44] <Falstius> xmOD: slocate is also good for finding files (and doesn't take a few hours)
[04:45] <IntuitiveNipple> slocate requires a pre-built database though, doesn't it? often needs installing additionally?
[04:45] <xmOD> ok found it
[04:45] <IntuitiveNipple> xmOD: I think you'll find it as /etc/resolv.conf
[04:45] <xmOD> now it shows my dafult dns server
[04:45] <svr> Ferret: i have every time this config...i don't change the disks
[04:45] <xmOD> these worked in windows perfectly but am not quite sure about ubuntu
[04:46] <Falstius> IntuitiveNipple: slocate should be installed and update nightly by default in Ubuntu and system config files have been around long enough to be in the database.
[04:46] <IntuitiveNipple> xmOD: ok, so use either nslookup or dig with that DNS server and see if there are problems resolving DNS names you give it
[04:46] <nalioth> xmOD: i think they are making a moutain out of a molehill
[04:46] <IntuitiveNipple> Falstius: oh, thanks - I've been working on FC4/FC5 servers where its not there by default
[04:46] <svr> Ferret: so there is no need for 2 bootloader....i just wonder why ubuntu "thinks" my RAID sould be /dev/sda
[04:46] <nalioth> xmOD: the repos can be slow at times
[04:46] <aoupi> xmOD: if you are filesharing limit your upload speed to around 80% of your max upload
[04:47] <Falstius> IntuitiveNipple: I always try it first, it is very fast, and then find if slocate fails.  It is good for someone to know both.
[04:47] <nalioth> xmOD: best in here, to persue one quest at a time
[04:47] <xmOD> its not just with repos.. but most downloads.. i'll try changing the dns servers
[04:48] <IntuitiveNipple> xmOD: what i usually do is install bind locally, and then set it as the nameserver in resolv.conf
[04:49] <aoupi> does anyone here know how to modify keyboard layouts?
[04:49] <xmOD> now i dont know wats bind lol ... i hate being new to things!
[04:50] <MarcN> xmOD: bind9 is a DNS server.  Usually you don't need to install it.
[04:51] <xmOD> oh and also i want to be able to dualboot to windows from GRUB.. any ideas on how to do it.. i cant change the file directly in text editor cause it has permissions set up so how do i edit it?
[04:51] <reagleBRKLN> running kubuntu edgy: beagle/kerry weren't indexing MS Word files evidently, installed wv, but now what?
[04:51] <StFS> is there any good reason why the "postgresql" packages installs version 7.x while there are packages for pg 8.1 available?
[04:51] <erisco> is there a way to get FireFox 2.0.0.1 for Ubuntu 6.06?
[04:52] <oidia> erisco: update?
[04:53] <xmOD> YAY! got my psp toolchain working! and also changed my nameservers! now the only thing left is how to show up windows in GRUB?
[04:53] <oidia> StFS: do you get it from the repositories?
[04:53] <erisco> oidia, no... you sure it is in the repositories?
[04:53] <xmOD> menu.lst is not editable in text editor
[04:53] <oidia> erisco: yes, i got it today
[04:53] <erisco> oidia, from what repository?
[04:54] <fotoflo_> how do i chmod to get "lrwxrwxrwx" ?
[04:54] <Falstius> fotoflo_: chmod a+rwx
[04:54] <erisco> fotoflo_, chmod 777 ?
[04:54] <aoupi> fotoflo_: the 'l' in the begining means it is a link
[04:54] <oidia> www.ubuntuguide.org erisco
[04:54] <fotoflo_> oh ok
[04:54] <aoupi> fotoflo_: links are always 777 on the rest
[04:54] <oidia> the ones mentioned there
[04:54] <xmOD> anybody gonna answer my last ques of dualbooting windows?
[04:54] <IntuitiveNipple> xmOD: try reading this article: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/05/08/dual-boot-laptop.html?page=last
[04:55] <erisco> oidia, I said 6.06, not 6.10
[04:55] <oidia> erisco: o, sorry
[04:55] <xmOD> ok apple
[04:55] <oidia> erisco: then i guess it will take some time..
[04:55] <xmOD> thx
[04:55] <IntuitiveNipple> erisco: Can't you simply update Firefox from the firefox download site?
[04:55] <erisco> oidia, I could download the rpm from the mozzila site maybe?
[04:56] <oidia> erisco: maybe.. or is it posible to upgrade the system?
[04:56] <theidiotthatisme> xmOD: To edit your grub you need root permission. To edit it under root try opening a terminal and typing sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:56] <oidia> erisco: dist-upgrade?
[04:56] <erisco> oidia, I would have to reformat... I just haven't gotten around to upgrading yet
[04:57] <oidia> erisco: i think "apt-get dist-upgrade" or "apt-get update" "apt-get upgrade" whould do it?
[04:57] <tuna-fish-> Is there a simple program for linux that uses all available GPU power like "yes" does to cpu power?
[04:57] <oidia> but im not shure
[04:57] <erisco> oidia, I don't trust that..
[04:57] <oidia> erisco: now... that is weary tricky..
[04:58] <erisco> oidia, I would just reformat, and I will eventually
[04:58] <kyncani> !upgrade
[04:58] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:58] <oidia> erisco: i have ben forced to reformat more then one in that whay..
[04:58] <oidia> way*
[04:58] <erisco> how do you install an rpm archive? I forget the exact procedure..
[04:58] <xmOD> ok now even the dualboot problem is solved
[04:58] <xmOD> thx again guys!
[04:59] <FlowingBug> Tere!
[05:00] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[05:00] <erisco> don't you use dpkg or something?
[05:00] <IntuitiveNipple> yes, erisco
[05:00] <erisco> sorry this isn't an rpm, it is a tar
[05:01] <erisco> IntuitiveNipple, could you remind me the steps again?
[05:01] <rysiek|pl> need some help with upstart - I am setting an encrypted partition, and upon being mounted it asks for a passphrase; now, seems like upstart feeds it some random stuff and the partition does not get mounted properly
[05:01] <erisco> IntuitiveNipple, I am trying to take the tar for firefox 2.0 and install it
[05:01] <IntuitiveNipple> for a debian package, simply dpkg -i package.deb
[05:01] <erisco> IntuitiveNipple, it isn't a debian package... but can I make it one? I think that was one of the steps
[05:02] <IntuitiveNipple> hmm, not sure, never needed to do that myself. Have you Googled for articles showing how to do it?
[05:02] <rysiek|pl> upstart seems to just make it impossible for a startup script to be interactive
[05:02] <Falstius> erisco: you use "alien" to turn rpms into .deb file ... but it doesn't always work very well.
[05:03] <rysiek|pl> Falstius: well, I had no problems with aliening rpms into debs
[05:03] <erisco> Falstius, it was my mistake, it is a tar
[05:03] <rysiek|pl> erisco: is it a source tar archive? what are you trying to do?
[05:04] <frojnd> k3b did not find a suitable writer you will only be able to create an image! But I wanna make DVD data project
[05:05] <frojnd> anybody know how to resolve this prob?
[05:05] <erisco> rysiek|pl, install firefox 2.0
[05:05] <rysiek|pl> erisco: what version of ubu are you using
[05:05] <PRAEDO> hello
[05:06] <erisco> rysiek|pl, 6.06
[05:08] <gili> which plugin do i neeed to have installed to play streamed video of sites like cnn.com
[05:08] <xhost> well, i want to know how can i start console mouse services on ubuntu
[05:09] <erisco> !easyubuntu gili
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easyubuntu gili - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <PRAEDO> how can i remove a package together will all dependencies it installed?
[05:09] <PoLL> hello, do u guys know which 'update_checker' ubuntu gnome uses ? i need ne name of the binary
[05:09] <erisco> dang.. what is the name
[05:09] <gili> can you give me a simpler answer?
[05:09] <Soir> xhost: sudo /etc/init.d/gpm start
[05:09] <erisco> !medibuntu
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about medibuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <erisco> gili, http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[05:10] <erisco> gili, it is in the repositories too... just a second
[05:10] <Falstius> !easyubuntu
[05:10] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[05:10] <NoEvidenZ> So i still can't figure out my network problems.
[05:10] <Falstius> last I checked it didn't work well with edgy however (and flast installation via easy ubuntu was broken)
[05:10] <NoEvidenZ> !wifi
[05:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:10] <erisco> gili, no it is not in the repositories, but there is a guide right on the site to use it
[05:11] <erisco> !tell gili about easyubuntu
[05:11] <erisco> I think that is how it works... the bot...
[05:11] <TheGateKeeper> gili: what do you want to install?
[05:11] <LameBMX> !virtual machine
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtual machine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <LameBMX> !vmware
[05:11] <Falstius> gili: I like to use mozilla-plugin-vlc for streamed media.
[05:11] <ubotu> vmware is VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[05:12] <gili> TheGateKeeper: thankyou for paying attention.....
[05:12] <rysiek|pl> erisco: sorry, have to do smthng, brb with you
[05:12] <gili> i have seent he easyubuntu...dont need all that....just want to stream the video from firefox...used to work before...not sure if i missed a plugin
[05:12] <gili> do i need to install xinte-totem
[05:13] <gili> *xine-totem
[05:13] <gili> Falstius: Thank you...i will try that now
[05:13] <TheGateKeeper> gili: I would say so, are you using Firefox 2? I read there was a problem
[05:13] <erisco> gili, easyubuntu just installs the libraries for you
[05:13] <erisco> gili, that is all it does
[05:13] <Soir> PoLL: /usr/bin/update-notifier
[05:14] <gili> erisco: i know...its just tha I have most of these librarries installed already
[05:14] <TheGateKeeper> gili: using edge or dapper?
[05:14] <gili> edge
[05:14] <gili> i use VLC so i will try the mozilla plugin
[05:15] <gili> erisco: thank you for the info...
[05:16] <Falstius> I just wish vlc was as good at skipping through videos as mplayer.
[05:16] <rysiek|pl> erisco: as for Ff2.0 install - here's a howto, try the section "Installing Firefox - Quick and dirty": https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:16] <xtknight> eitan: i am now
[05:16] <erisco> rysiek|pl, thanks very much... I am taking a look now
[05:16] <TheGateKeeper> gili: lots of bits & pieces here, much better than using automated scripts that will b0rk your system
[05:16] <TheGateKeeper> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[05:16] <TheGateKeeper> ^^^^
[05:17] <rysiek|pl> erisco: nop
[05:18] <gili> TheGateKeeper:yes indeed!!
[05:19] <Gosha> !lamp
[05:19] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:23] <cld2> is there a doc or key word for ubotu dealing with the OSS ati driver?
[05:25] <mortal> What type should I enter in fstab for a vfat mount?
[05:25] <mortal> third parameter
[05:25] <HymnToLife> vfat :)
[05:25] <mortal> ah, cool
[05:26] <eitan> xtknight: I had the error  "Begin: Waiting for root file system..." so i enabled the intel SATA PIIX driver and Sata support, hope it works now, it's compiling
[05:26] <rysiek|pl> ok, so anyone with the upstart problem?
[05:26] <xtknight> eitan: hmm.  that's odd
[05:27] <xtknight> eitan: we used the same config as your then-current kernel
[05:27] <rizwaan>  error: linux/namespace.h: No such file or directory
[05:27] <PRAEDO> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/nfs-common: file does not exist
[05:27] <PRAEDO> dpkg: error processing nfs-common (--configure):
[05:27] <PRAEDO>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:27] <PRAEDO> i removed the init file manually
[05:27] <xtknight> eitan: aside from enabling two TIFM options
[05:27] <PRAEDO> and now i want to install it again
[05:27] <PRAEDO> how can i force it to install the init file again?
[05:29] <PriceChild> hey Neomysis :)
[05:29] <PriceChild> you made it :)
[05:29] <Neomysis> Hey Hey....
[05:29] <Neomysis> Yeah.. It's not big deal ;)
[05:30] <Neomysis> So.. I have problems with a speed touch USB modem
[05:30] <Neomysis> is someone that could help me please...
[05:30] <Neomysis> I follow a lot of menuals, but is still not working
[05:30] <NET||abuse> hey guys,, i've been trying to repair my da's hard drive, it's ntfs, so i was gonna run spinrite6 on it,, now, i tried to use their "create a boot disk" option and made spinrite boot off my usb stick,, now when i try to boot from it, my laptop says Operating System Missing
[05:31] <NET||abuse> what's the beef with that?? how can i see why its not booting up?
[05:31] <PriceChild> Neomysis: I think I might be able to help :)
[05:31] <NET||abuse> spinrite loads up a versin of freedos i believe
[05:31] <mortal> NET||abuse, maybe the MBR broke
[05:31] <xtknight> NET||abuse: probably a corrupted Master Boot Record or boot sector
[05:31] <Neomysis> Oh.. thanks!!
[05:31] <NET||abuse> xtknight, how can i check the mbr? i have the disk mounted
[05:31] <mortal> NET||abuse, is it Windows?
[05:31] <NET||abuse> mortal, same question
[05:32] <mortal> mounted to your linux box?
[05:32] <NET||abuse> :) i have the disk loaded up on my laptop now, i'm in ubuntu
[05:32] <Neomysis> I'm fighting with this for a few days and I just can't make it work
[05:32] <rizwaan> where is the "namespace.h" in linux 2.6.20 kernel...?
[05:32] <mhiku> how to have domainkey?
[05:32] <NET||abuse> disk=memory stick :)
[05:32] <mortal> you'll need to install grub or Windows' own mbr in it
[05:32] <xtknight> NET||abuse: so you have the disk connected to the laptop and you're on linux?
[05:32] <mortal> I don't know how to install grub on a remote drive
[05:32] <NET||abuse> xtknight, right now yeh
[05:32] <xtknight> NET||abuse: do you know the device id for it ( /dev/sdx or /dev/hdx)?
[05:33] <mortal> NET||abuse, try inserting a Windows CD, go into repair mode or whatever the command line is called, enter fixmbr
[05:33] <NET||abuse> /dev/sda1
[05:33] <eitan> xtknight: okay rebooting...i'll let you know if i get anything fishy again
[05:33] <NET||abuse> it's on /dev/sda1
[05:33] <xtknight> eitan: ok
[05:33] <xtknight> NET||abuse: if you want to install grub on that, grub-install /dev/sda1
[05:33] <xtknight> wait
[05:33] <mortal> indeed
[05:33] <xtknight> NET||abuse: scratch that
[05:33] <xtknight> NET||abuse: grub-install /dev/sda (without the sda1)
[05:33] <xtknight> NET||abuse: but this is a windows drive or what
[05:34] <NET||abuse> mortal, no, the mbr on the hard drive is fine, the machine wont go into windows, there's corrupt files,, it's when i try to boot up from the usb stick which was supposed to be prepared by spinrites freedos setup it isn't booting
[05:34] <xtknight> NET||abuse: either use grub on /dev/sda  , and then fixboot under xp recovery console.  or, just use fixmbr AND fixboot under xp recovery console
[05:34] <mortal> ah
[05:35] <Gosha> how do i- oh
[05:35] <Gosha> !apache
[05:35] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:35] <NET||abuse> well, it's booting up under safe mode in windows ok,, but there's some corruption on the rest of the system that stops it booting at all in fully enabled windows mode
[05:35] <xtknight> NET||abuse: wait so does it say NTLDR is corrupt, config is corrupt, or did it say Operating System Unloadable?
[05:35] <xtknight> NET||abuse: oh ok
[05:35] <Gosha> how do i make a apache user, that i can acces via http://localhost/~user ?
[05:35] <NET||abuse> so i just want to run spinrite on that laptop
[05:36] <xtknight> NET||abuse: when does the OS error occur (operating system unloadable/etc)?
[05:36] <NET||abuse> when i try to boot from my usb stick which is freedos w/ spinrite
[05:36] <HymnToLife> Gosha, create a public_html dir in the user's home dir
[05:36] <HymnToLife> and put the file in there
[05:36] <HymnToLife> files*
[05:36] <Gosha> okay, thanks
[05:36] <xtknight> NET||abuse: oh.  what motherboard do you have?  are you sure it supports USB booting?  do you have legacy USB support enabled in the BIOS and the USB at the first boot order (or are you selecting USB mass storage at a boot menu)?
[05:37] <Neomysis> So.. Could you help my with the modem??
[05:37] <NET||abuse> xtknight, well, i'm just testing the boot up from usb on this fully working laptop here, my da's laptop which windows is busted on is after i ensure that the usb stick will successfully boot on this machine
[05:37] <NET||abuse> and yeh, i've enabled usb stick booting on this laptop.. it's an old compaq evo N610c
[05:38] <xtknight> NET||abuse: so you are trying to repair his XP with spinrite?
[05:39] <NET||abuse> xtknight, i'm trying to do a full spinrite run to see if it will repair any corruption and if that rescues his xp install then fandoodly tastic :), other wise i'll find another option, but this is the firt thing i'm gonna try
[05:39] <PriceChild> Neomysis: is it adsl or other?
[05:39] <NET||abuse> i've done the dell filesys diagnostics too, but that's pretty lame
[05:39] <xtknight> NET||abuse: hmm.  did he lose any files?  if not i would not bother with spinrite but instead do a reinstall or repair of xp.  spinrite is not likely to fix anything if the hard drive was not damaged or corrupted
[05:39] <Neomysis> ADSL
[05:39] <Neomysis> It is recognised by my ubuntu
[05:40] <NET||abuse> xtknight, well, there's a buncha files on his machine, and software he'd haave a hard time reconfiguring
[05:40] <VMT2007> wow something's wrong with my chat window
[05:40] <PriceChild> Neomysis: its usb but still recognised?
[05:40] <VMT2007> the last few messages don't show
[05:40] <Neomysis> but I can't make the default
[05:40] <NET||abuse> so i am trying my best to get the current install back on it' feet
[05:40] <xtknight> NET||abuse: boot into the recovery console on his PC and do chkdsk and see if it reports errors.  if not, spinrite will not fix anything.  if chkdsk does find errors it should be able to fix them.  spinrite is usually for fixing physically damaged hard drives, not for damaged file structures
[05:40] <Neomysis> conection.. So, when I start my firefox, never find any page
[05:40] <xtknight> NET||abuse: tell you what, try chkdsk first see if that fixes anything
[05:40] <klm-> what's the default server.met -serverlist address for amule?
[05:41] <xtknight> NET||abuse: sorry though i'm really not sure why the USB is not booting properly
[05:41] <NET||abuse> xtknight, well, the xp cd is in his attick somewhere :), so it's try this today, or wait 3 days till he gets back over to me with the xp cd ;)
[05:41] <PriceChild> Neomysis: where does it detect it? :S
[05:41] <NET||abuse> unless the xp cd from my moms laptop will do it.... i'm not sure
[05:41] <PriceChild> Neomysis: i'm confused as my usb adsl required 3rd party drivers
[05:41] <xtknight> NET||abuse: probably can (doesnt matter if its OEM or retail for recovery console)
[05:42] <NET||abuse> i hate windows..... stupid cd version shinanigans
[05:42] <VMT2007> NET||abuse: you installed XP on a hard drive with an existing linux partition?
[05:42] <NET||abuse> I want all the family members i support to run ubuntu
[05:42] <Neomysis> I follow some tips that I fing on google
[05:42] <xtknight> NET||abuse: ah alright.  will the USB stick boot on any PC in the house?
[05:42] <NET||abuse> xtknight, i'll try the other laptop,, one sec
[05:42] <Neomysis> so, finally it's sopouse to be recognized by my ubuntu
[05:42] <VMT2007> NET||abuse: why? forcing linux down  people's throats isn't linux advocacy
[05:42] <Neomysis> but.. I stop there.. I don't know the next step
[05:43] <Neomysis> I don't have any experience with ppp
[05:43] <Neomysis> y Alwais use rj45
[05:43] <Neomysis> of wifi
[05:43] <Neomysis> this is my first time with adsl over usb
[05:43] <VMT2007> Neomysis: you really shouldn't even bother with that, use the ethernet interface
[05:43] <NET||abuse> VMT2007, oh of course i don't force it on them,, just i wish they could,, but of course there's a few things that would just be awkward to get going that way for thenm
[05:43] <VMT2007> and get a router or a hardware firewall
[05:44] <Gosha> should i "Hack 52. Enable 3-D Video Acceleration" <-- do that?
[05:44] <xtknight> Gosha: i'd recommend it
[05:44] <Bohemian> any ops here?
[05:44] <VMT2007> http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/accessories/75f3/
[05:44] <VMT2007> you could definitely find that at a lower price since ThinkGeek likes to step the prices up twentyfold
[05:45] <VMT2007> NET||abuse: besides, does anyone in your family game?
[05:45] <NET||abuse> well i do :)
[05:46] <NET||abuse> but not really anyone else
[05:46] <NET||abuse> and even then, i don't even live with em
[05:46] <lynyrd> I've got a problem with iptables. "iptables -A INPUT -d 192.168.1.16 -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport 80 -j DROP" if I add this rule to the tables, nmap tells me, the host may be down. There is no other rule in iptables.
[05:46] <Neomysis> did you get my problem?
[05:46] <VMT2007> wine is still not advanced enough for gaming
[05:46] <NET||abuse> ok, i set the boot order for my ma's laptop for usb above hdd, it didn't boot up on usb stick again
[05:46] <VMT2007> Neomysis: ubuntu doesn't recognize your modem?
[05:46] <NET||abuse> so this thing just isn't booting properly
[05:46] <NET||abuse> that's 3 pcs' i've checked
[05:46] <xtknight> NET||abuse: problem with the usb stick.  im not sure, ive never made a bootable usb stick
[05:47] <NET||abuse> my lappy, my ma's lappy and my da's borked windows lappy
[05:47] <VMT2007> NET||abuse: it doesn't have a boot menu?
[05:47] <lynyrd> i tried to recreate the problem, on ubuntu 6.10, but everythings running well. my sever has ubuntu 6.06.1
[05:47] <Neomysis> PriceChild: Are you there? Do you undertand?
[05:47] <NET||abuse> ;) well, i wonder how i can inspect the usb sticks mbr to see how it's configured and see if there's something wrong
[05:48] <VMT2007> Neomysis: i'd be surprised if you could find drivers for your ADSL modem
[05:48] <PriceChild> Neomysis: yeah I'm here...
[05:48] <VMT2007> what brand is it?
[05:48] <VMT2007> 2wire?
[05:49] <Neomysis> and do you undertand?
[05:49] <VMT2007> tu hablas espanol?
[05:49] <eitan> phew
[05:49] <xtknight> :P
[05:49] <Neomysis> VMT2007 por?
[05:49] <iulian_> about bind
[05:49] <Neomysis> si estan por todas partes
[05:49] <iulian_> ..
[05:49] <eitan> xtknight: same error....i think it tries to use the SATA drivers but fails
[05:50] <xtknight> eitan: that's really weird.  you still have your original kernel and ur in that now right?
[05:50] <Neomysis> VT es un speedyouch 330
[05:50] <iulian_> when i type bind9 stop in /etc/init.d/
[05:50] <iulian_> nothing happens
[05:50] <eitan> yeah
[05:50] <eitan> Im in my old kernel now
[05:50] <VMT2007> francamente no pienso que vas a poder encontrar controladores para tu modem
[05:50] <VMT2007> que marca es?
[05:50] <xtknight> eitan: what i dont understand is how that one boots but the new one fails
[05:50] <Neomysis> VMT2007 pero su ya hice que lo reconociera
[05:51] <Neomysis> Pero ahi quedo, no se como activarlo para usarlo
[05:51] <xtknight> eitan: did you copy the config from your current kernel into the new kernel before editing options?
[05:51] <VMT2007> ah, ya entiendo tu problema
[05:51] <VMT2007> teclea `ifconfig -a` en el terminal
[05:51] <Neomysis> no se como se usan los dispositios PPPoE, siempre he usado Eth0 (RJ) y wifi
[05:51] <Ash-Fox> Is it just me who cannot resolve security.ubuntu.com ?
[05:51] <Neomysis> y luego de eso?
[05:51] <xtknight> eitan: it should have been in step 5 on the 'master kernel guide' thread
[05:51] <VMT2007> aparace tu modem ahi?
[05:51] <Neomysis> pero creo que no tengo instalado ifconfig
[05:51] <xtknight> eitan: or maybe that's not the problem, i dont know.  seems weird
[05:52] <Neomysis> no lo se.. ahora estoy en mierdows
[05:52] <Ash-Fox> !es
[05:52] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:52] <Neomysis> OK...
[05:52] <Ash-Fox> I'm hoping I guessed the language write
[05:52] <Neomysis> VMT do you you want to go to ubuntu-es ?
[05:52] <Ash-Fox> *right
[05:52] <VMT2007> sure
[05:52] <VMT2007> Ash-Fox: no we were speaking klingon but good try
[05:52] <Neomysis> ok.. thank!! I'm going
[05:53] <Ash-Fox> P'tak!
[05:53] <Neomysis> TukOk
[05:53] <eitan> xtknight: yeah I followed the guide by doing cut/paste
[05:53] <Gosha> "Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for a line that says something like:     Driver          "nv"   Edit it to specify the nvidia driver:               Driver     "nvidia"" <--- is that neccessary?
[05:53] <eitan> xtknight: a lot of ppl in that thread had that error though
[05:53] <xtknight> eitan: which error message did you get when u tried to boot the new kernel?
[05:54] <PriceChild> Neomysis: the only drivers supported on linux http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/modems.php there
[05:54] <eitan> xtknight:  Begin: Waiting for root file system...
[05:54] <xtknight> eitan: well i could try compiling a kernel for you and you could see if that works.  would be nice if we figured out what was wrong with yours though
[05:55] <eitan> xtknight: the thing is...a lotof ppl in this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158 had that problem even though they copied their old config over
[05:55] <xtknight> eitan: reading now
[05:56] <sexcopter8000m> hi, does anyone else find that clicking the scroll feature in firefox when you press the mouse-wheel button doesn't work?
[05:56] <sexcopter8000m> i'm not sure exactly how to call it
[05:57] <pokesmot> Hey all, im running a dual boot here, and something wiped out the windows entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst ...  windows is on the first partition so what should i put back in there to get it on my list?
[05:57] <joakim> Hi
[05:57] <joakim> I have some problems with dual-boot
[05:57] <kbrosnan> sexcopter8000m: you need to updated the mouse section of your xorg.conf, give me a few min to find the details
[05:58] <Music_Shuffle> !dualboot
[05:58] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:58] <jugUT> I have a question about grub (I think) I have 2 hard drives (hda and hdb).  hda has windows and hdb has ubuntu. would like to transfer hdb to another pc to format and install ubuntu for a new pc.  how will I fix grub on the windows pc?
[05:58] <xtknight> eitan: ok try my kernel here (just to try 2.6.19.1).  it doesnt have TIFM in it but we'll see if 2.6.19.1 works at all for you.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326343&highlight=core+2+duo
[05:58] <xtknight> eitan: this one: 32-bit kernel (2006-12-28 update)
[05:58] <Intelligitimate> Can I safely uninstall OpenOffice Database, Spreadsheet and Presentation without affecting the Word Processor? That is all I use of the Open Office software, and I need a little more room on my hard drive.
[05:58] <xtknight> eitan: unless you have 64bit
[05:59] <eitan> ok, will try
[05:59] <eitan> will it work with my hardware though?
[05:59] <aoupi> hi, I have an apple keyboard and I want to use the command key as modifier key instead of right-alt in my keyboard layout, how do I do that?
[05:59] <xtknight> eitan: sure, it's stock with a couple more sata things enabled for core 2 duo systems
[05:59] <xtknight> eitan: the arch for your current kernel is x86_64 or i386/i686?
[06:00] <eitan> 386 i believe?
[06:00] <eitan> its a core 1 duo, not 2 duo btw
[06:00] <xtknight> eitan: ahh. the 32bit will work with any intel or amd cpu though.  type `uname -m` to get the current architecture
[06:01] <pokesmot> Hey all, im running a dual boot here, and something wiped out the windows entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst ...  windows is on the first partition so what should i put back in there to get it on my list?  I'm sure all i need to do is hack menu.lst, and all  i need is a typical first partition entry for windows example.
[06:01] <eitan> xtknight: i.686
[06:01] <Wavesonics> hi, I'm running the "ATI" drivers (not fglrx) for my readon9800pro and they are fine, but I want to set up a dual head display with them. Are there any example xorg.conf files to look at?
[06:01] <xmOD> hey can somebody help me run vino?
[06:01] <rysiek|pl> guys, anybody with ideas on the upstart problem?
[06:01] <xtknight> eitan: ok, get the 32bit/2006-12-28 kernel on that page
[06:01] <xtknight> xmOD: sure
[06:01] <joakim> I'm playing WoW under Wine for a while, and I'm tired of laggy games, so I decided to run dual-boot, so I install Windows with a long installing of NTFS. When it was finished, I put the Live-CD into the tray and booted it up. And when it booted up, I started the installation of Ubuntu. When I came to the partitioning, I chose the resize option, and clicked next, and then it stopped. Just loading
[06:01] <eitan> xtknight: how would I install it?
[06:01] <xmOD> how do i get started xt?
[06:01] <joakim> May the cause of this be the NTFS?
[06:02] <Intelligitimate> joakim, try defragging
[06:02] <HymnToLife> joakim, resizing a NTFS can take some time
[06:02] <xtknight> eitan: download the deb files to a directory.  goto that directory then: sudo dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.19.1_c2d_i386.deb; sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-2.6.19.1_c2d_i386.deb
[06:02] <Ralth> Hello everyone!  I've been installing KDE on the standard ubuntu, and a few of the files failed to download.  What's the best way to get just the files that are missing?  Is there a command to use for that?  I would rather not wait for the whole thing to download again.
[06:02] <Intelligitimate> Can I safely uninstall OpenOffice Database, Spreadsheet and Presentation without affecting the Word Processor? That is all I use of the Open Office software, and I need a little more room on my hard drive.
[06:02] <anny> JOIN #SBP
[06:02] <xtknight> xmOD: is vino enabled yet?
[06:03] <HymnToLife> Ralth, just run your apt-get again
[06:03] <rysiek|pl> gtg, cu later, guys
[06:03] <HymnToLife> il will download only the files that were not previously downloaded
[06:03] <xmOD> how do i enable it xt? i'm new to linux
[06:03] <Ralth> Ok.  I seem to have misplaced the command for that.  Do you have it?  (the install command for KDE)
[06:03] <xtknight> xmOD: go to a terminal and type 'vino-preferences' to open the vino configuration dialog.  you can also go to system->preferences->remote desktop
[06:04] <adam98971> compiz or beryl
[06:04] <HymnToLife> Ralth, there are more than one
[06:04] <HymnToLife> the most comon is    sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:05] <Ralth> Hymn: yes, I think that was it.  Thanks!
[06:05] <xmOD> @xtknight: how do i see the ip address that my new is running on? i mean the internal ip not public..
[06:05] <archie> hi how to remove wine installed application fronm "Applications" menu ?
[06:06] <HymnToLife> xmOD, ifconfig
[06:06] <archie> ..and all other places too
[06:06] <xmOD> thx
[06:06] <xtknight> xmOD: ifconfig eth0   if eth0 is your interface
[06:06] <Intelligitimate> Can anyone help me with what I guess is a simple question?
[06:06] <xmOD> yep got it !
[06:06] <xtknight> xmOD: network adapters are denoted by 'ethX' identifier, where X is the number of your interface (starts at zero)
[06:07] <xmOD> yeah eth0 is my net adp
[06:07] <xmOD> now i see it
[06:07] <xtknight> xmOD: now i assume you want to know how to connect to your vino server, right?
[06:07] <archie> sorry .. but .. how to remove wine installed application from "Applications" menu ?
[06:07] <joakim> I think I will erase the entire disk and install Windows after Ubuntu
[06:07] <xmOD> nope.. got it connected!! i wanted to do vnc from my PSP and its working now..! thx for the help m8!
[06:08] <xtknight> xmOD: no problem
[06:08] <joakim> And install Grub afterwards
[06:08] <jugUT> I have a question about grub (I think) I have 2 hard drives (hda and hdb).  hda has windows and hdb has ubuntu. would like to transfer hdb to another pc to format and install ubuntu for a new pc.  how will I fix grub on the windows pc?
[06:09] <xtknight> jugUT: you are moving hdb to the other PC or copying it over to another disk on the new pc?
[06:09] <archie> INSTALL BOOT MAGIC
[06:09] <Intelligitimate> Can I safely uninstall OpenOffice Database, Spreadsheet and Presentation without affecting the Word Processor? That is all I use of the Open Office software, and I need a little more room on my hard drive.
[06:09] <archie> it will rewrite mbr
[06:09] <jugUT> xtknight, I'm moving the hard drive to another pc.
[06:10] <xtknight> jugUT: ok.  you dont want grub on the windows machine at all though, correct?
[06:10] <xtknight> jugUT: if you're not using linux you should use windows's bootloader
[06:10] <jugUT> is there a way to install the windows bootloader without a windows cd?
[06:10] <xtknight> jugUT: yes but i am not sure what the easiest program is
[06:11] <jugUT> I guess that's a windows question... this is a dell and the only disk (that I can't find) is the all-in-one system recovery disk
[06:11] <Licky> ubuntu is great! ;D
[06:11] <archie> i say install boot magic ...
[06:11] <xmOD> i have a question similar to jugUT .. i have 2 HDD's and i want GRUB to be able to show me choices on wat OS to start at boot.. so ubuntu is installed on hd0 (thats wat menu.lst says) .. so wat would be the partition for windows if its on another hdd ?
[06:11] <xtknight> jugUT: ok.  you can leave grub on there and it'll be fine.  all you have to do is remove the linux entries from grub
[06:11] <xmOD> hd1,0?
[06:11] <eitan> xtknight: okay rebooting
[06:11] <xtknight> jugUT: windows will boot fine after you remove hdb
[06:11] <xtknight> eitan: ok
[06:11] <xtknight> jugUT: windows will boot fine if grub is on the /dev/hda MBR
[06:11] <jugUT> ok xtknight I was wondering if I could edit out the linux entries and keep grub
[06:11] <xtknight> jugUT: yes you can
[06:11] <archie> if u will try another way to ull kill everything
[06:12] <fiandre> i'm searching for a package such as hsfmodem_{version}_{arch}.deb ... which could be the repository? thnks
[06:12] <fiandre> (hi all)
[06:12] <Licky> anyone who can answer that -why- winecfg keeps removing the D: partition that's mount to /mnt/D, when I apply? It doesn't allow me to map D to D..!!
[06:12] <xtknight> xmOD: yeah (hd1,0).  but grub usually auto detects windows.  you have to use a chainloader command
[06:12] <xmOD> title		Windows XP SP2
[06:12] <xmOD> root		(hd1,0)
[06:12] <xmOD> makeactive
[06:12] <xmOD> chainloader	+1
[06:12] <xtknight> fiandre: you can check packages.ubuntu.com or google if its a third party repo
[06:12] <xmOD> this is okay?
[06:13] <xtknight> xmOD: yup fine.  does it work?
[06:13] <xtknight> !pastebin | xmOD
[06:13] <ubotu> xmOD: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:13] <xmOD> din try yet
[06:13] <xmOD> jus added that to menu.lst till now
[06:15] <jonah1980> is anyone using feisty yet? just wondered what you think and how it's shaping up? will it break everything if i update?
[06:16] <gili> i have a question about totem-xine vs totem-gstreamer......having some issues.////can someone help?
[06:16] <archangelpetro> Is anyone of any software for graphically constructing Yourdon/Ward/Mellor method diagrams?
[06:16] <archangelpetro> aware^
[06:17] <Music_Shuffle> !feisty
[06:17] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[06:17] <gili> I am trying to play video from a webiste...say "cnn" and i can only manage to do this from within firefox if i have the totem-xine installed...
[06:18] <Licky> #wine
[06:18] <gili> but once i do this all video files, including vids, avis, dvds etc. are all really bright and white...
[06:18] <gili> anyone?
[06:18] <ismoreno> ola
[06:19] <poorenglish> ismoreno: english plz, /kick X-)
[06:20] <cooltux> exit
[06:20] <gili> i have a question about totem-xine vs totem-gstreamer......having some issues.////can someone help?
[06:20] <gili> I am trying to play video from a webiste...say "cnn" and i can only manage to do this from within firefox if i have the totem-xine installed...
[06:20] <ismoreno> eo
[06:20] <gili> but once i do this all video files, including vids, avis, dvds etc. are all really bright and white...
[06:20] <ismoreno> hello
[06:20] <eitan> xtknight: I get an error with your kernel files when dpkging them
[06:21] <eitan> xtknight: dependancy problems
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[06:22] <ismoreno> egfuiughggg
[06:23] <ismoreno> tghrkulflkd-
[06:23] <ismoreno> jggbzk.sgfis-f
[06:23] <ismoreno> dgv-zuo gre
[06:23] <ismoreno> zd.kugvz-sogzsr
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[06:23] <ismoreno> mvjfx-hggur-jtgzjhrg
[06:23] <xtknight> eitan: hmmm.  what's the error?
[06:23] <Music_Shuffle> !ops
[06:23] <ubotu> Help! PriceChild, zenrox, byen, frodon, KiwiNZ, zenwhen, jdong, KingBahamut, nocturn, ubuntugeek, ubuntu_demon, darkmatter_, Brunellus, BuffaloSoldier, panickedthumb, jenda or k_mandla!
[06:24] <PriceChild> oh dear.....
[06:24] <eitan> Unpacking replacement linux-headers-2.6.19.1 ...
[06:24] <eitan> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-headers-2.6.19.1:
[06:24] <eitan>  linux-headers-2.6.19.1 depends on libc6 (>= 2.4-1); however:
[06:24] <eitan>   Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.
[06:24] <eitan> dpkg: error processing linux-headers-2.6.19.1 (--install):
[06:24] <eitan>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:24] <PriceChild> Music_Shuffle: i'
[06:24] <Music_Shuffle> O_o.  Did that ops list just completely change?
[06:24] <PriceChild> Music_Shuffle: i'll sort this out
[06:24] <PriceChild> Music_Shuffle: yeah.... hobbsee's broken it :P
[06:24] <eitan> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:24] <eitan>  linux-headers-2.6.19.1
[06:24] <Music_Shuffle> Roflmao.
[06:24] <Music_Shuffle> !pastebin | eitan
[06:24] <ubotu> eitan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:24] <Intelligitimate> Can I safely uninstall OpenOffice Database, Spreadsheet and Presentation without affecting the Word Processor? That is all I use of the Open Office software, and I need a little more room on my hard drive.
[06:25] <xtknight> eitan: weird.  i had thought the kernel would have worked on dapper :/
[06:26] <xtknight> eitan: i could try compiling a 2.6.19.1 kernel on my dapper VM
[06:26] <eitan> xtknight: why isn't it compiling correctly on my computer though?
[06:27] <PriceChild> Intelligitimate: yes
[06:27] <eitan> xtknight: I wish i knew which SATA driver to check-mark...I think that's what solves the original problem
[06:27] <xtknight> eitan: that's what i'm not sure about.  i could watch as you do it to make sure everything is going ok.  it might be something weird that the guide doesnt cover
[06:28] <Intelligitimate> How do I go about doing that, PriceChild?
[06:28] <eitan> xtknight: that error is a part of the "troubleshooting" section though..
[06:28] <PriceChild> Intangir: sudo apt-get remove "package"
[06:28] <PriceChild> Intangir: i think there's "openoffice-bas"
[06:28] <PriceChild> *base
[06:28] <Intangir> bah
[06:28] <Intangir> stop mistelling to me
[06:29] <PriceChild> argh
[06:29] <PriceChild> sorry Intangir
[06:29] <Intangir> ;)
[06:29] <PriceChild> Intelligitimate: ^^^^
[06:29] <xmO1> ok i used the GRUB and it still does'nt boot into windows
[06:29] <xmO1> if my windows HDD is connected at boot then windows boots up
[06:29] <xtknight> eitan: hmm, it doesn't make sense to me.  meanwhile we can try to find which sata driver your controller uses
[06:30] <xaaax> Hi. With grub loaded, how can I enter command line before X?
[06:30] <eitan> xtknight: okay sounds good
[06:30] <xtknight> eitan: i mean, we copied your old kernel config.  if your old kernel worked it had sata enabled and i dont know why the new one would suddenly be missing sata drivers for your board
[06:30] <xtknight> xaaax: recovery mode
[06:30] <xtknight> eitan: you know what, how about you post both your old kernel's config and then your new kernel's config to pastebin
[06:31] <antiPo5ix> I am running Ubuntu 6.10 it defaults to runlevel 2.  How do I disable X.  I want just a console at boot
[06:31] <xtknight> antiPo5ix: recovery mode
[06:31] <xtknight> antiPo5ix: well if you want to disable X for every day usage, then apt-get remove gdm  i guess
[06:31] <twisties> does recovery mode require non-Live CD? < Linux noob
[06:31] <antiPo5ix> xtknight: what script invokes gdm
[06:31] <xtknight> antiPo5ix: /etc/init.d/gdm   ?
[06:32] <antiPo5ix> xtknight:  its not linked in /etc/rc2.d/
[06:32] <xtknight> twisties: yes
[06:32] <martin__> #ubuntu
[06:32] <antiPo5ix> oh, yes  it is
[06:32] <MasterShrek_work> twisties recovery mod is an option on your grub menu
[06:32] <xtknight> twisties: but you can install a command line system using the alternate isntall disc
[06:32] <MasterShrek_work> mode*
[06:32] <antiPo5ix> xtknight: thanks
[06:32] <adinsx> hi :)
[06:33] <twisties> seeing as I know very little about linux can someone PM me with what to do?
[06:33] <foobarian> anyone experiencing weird display errors with new xorg?
[06:33] <xmO1> anyone can solve my windows/linux boot problem?
[06:34] <xmO1> i posted my question above
[06:34] <NoEvidenZ> post again so i can see it
[06:34] <MasterShrek_work> post it again xmO1 i wasnt here
[06:35] <seekHelp> hello can anybody please help me i want tu use sim-icq but i cannot save my profile why??
[06:35] <adinsx> I have a problem with the proprietary ati drivers on my X31 thinkpad, I am using version 8.28.1 because its the default for ubuntu, I followed the instructions on the wiki but when restarting X I get a "no screens found" error, it seems like my card isn't supported even though it is listed, the card is a Mobility Radeon 9000
[06:35] <MasterShrek_work> adinsx use an older driver
[06:36] <adinsx> older?
[06:36] <NoEvidenZ> xm01: send your problem again so we can see it.
[06:36] <briguyd> i can no longer access my cd and/or dvd drives
[06:36] <martin__> #ubuntu
[06:36] <martin__> #ubuntu-fr
[06:36] <adinsx> whats the best way to install an older driver if it isn't avaliable through apt-get?
[06:36] <martin__> sorry
[06:36] <MasterShrek_work> use an older propreity driver
[06:37] <MasterShrek_work> i cant spell today
[06:37] <xmO1> while installing ubuntu i disconnected the HDD on which i had windows cause i thought that i could mess up my windows installation.. so after installing ubuntu on another HDD, now i wanna br able to boot into windows as well as ubuntu through grub.. how do i do that? at the moment, if i connect my windows HDD then windows autoboots without the grub even appearing.. so everytime i wanna boot into ubuntu, i have to disconnect my windows HDD.. i wanna get rid of thi
[06:37] <seekHelp> hello can anybody please help me i want tu use sim-icq but i cannot save my profile why??
[06:38] <sirmis> hi
[06:38] <sirmis> howto add dhclien to get ip to wlan0 at startup ?
[06:38] <NoEvidenZ> xm01: You need to go into your BIOS find the drive with Ubuntu installed, and then set it as the boot drive. Then set the Windows one as secondary. The grub bootloader should detect windows for you.
[06:38] <hjmills> can i use a 20pin atx connector on a 24pin mobo? (skt am2)
[06:38] <phr34ck> Hey, do you recomand using SeaMonkey ?
[06:39] <sirmis> hjmills: yes you can
[06:39] <adinsx> yes you need an adaptor though hjmills
[06:39] <xaaax> when I load ubuntu in recovery mode, this is some kind of limited environment or its a regular system just on command line?
[06:39] <adinsx> oh wait no you don't
[06:39] <adinsx> you need one for the other way around
[06:39] <sirmis> adaptor is not needed allways
[06:39] <hjmills> adinsx and sirmis: thanks - will it affect performance?
[06:40] <xmO1> anybody got the answer to my prob?
[06:40] <sirmis> i don't think so
[06:40] <briguyd> can somebody help me, my cd and dvd drives are no longer showing up in the device manager, yet they work under my windows partition
[06:40] <seekHelp> hello can anybody please help me i want tu use sim-icq but i cannot save my profile why??
[06:40] <NoEvidenZ> xm01: You need to go into your BIOS find the drive with Ubuntu installed, and then set it as the boot drive. Then set the Windows one as secondary. The grub bootloader should detect windows for you.
[06:40] <xtknight> xmO1: you probably shouldn't have unplugged it , but if you want to fix that, you need to know the block device of your first hard disk
[06:40] <VMT2007> hm
[06:40] <MasterShrek_work> xmO1:  add this to the end of your /boot/grub/menu.list
[06:40] <VMT2007> you know when you cat a binary file by accident
[06:40] <MasterShrek_work> title Windows XP
[06:41] <phr34ck> Hey, do you recomand using SeaMonkey ?
[06:41] <VMT2007> your whole terminal shows funky characters... how do you fix that again?
[06:41] <hjmills> sirmis: thanks
[06:41] <MasterShrek_work> rootnoverify (hd0,0)      or maybe (hd1,0) if its a different drive
[06:41] <MasterShrek_work> chainloader +1
[06:41] <NoEvidenZ> xm01: does it actually boot to grub, or does it go straight into windows?
[06:41] <MasterShrek_work> so a total of three lines
[06:41] <xtknight> wait a minute now.  he doesn't even have grub on his MBR
[06:41] <hjmills> VMT2007: exit with ctrl+c?
[06:41] <hjmills> VMT2007: try and cat /dev/urandom
[06:41] <MasterShrek_work> oh i assumed he did, i thought he couldnt boot win
[06:41] <NoEvidenZ> i assumed the opposite :P
[06:41] <xmO1> it goes straight to windows id the windows drive is connected
[06:41] <xmO1> *if
[06:42] <xtknight> xmO1: yes, you need to overwrite the MBR on that windows drive so it loads grub instead.
[06:42] <MasterShrek_work> yea
[06:42] <xmO1> well how?
[06:42] <sinisterguy> does anyone happen to have the candido engine ubuntu package?
[06:42] <xtknight> xmO1: type 'sudo fdisk -l'
[06:42] <NoEvidenZ> You can change the bios to boot the other hard drive before the windows one.
[06:42] <xtknight> xmO1: then put the output in pastebin
[06:42] <MasterShrek_work> take that windows drive, and throw it out the window
[06:42] <MasterShrek_work> solve all your problems
[06:42] <NoEvidenZ> Lol
[06:42] <Duesentrieb> xtknight: to do that, he'd have to disconnect the drive, boot linux, then reconnect the driove while the box is running - not a good idea...
[06:43] <BTR> Hi, i want to try gnome instead of kde, how do i download gnome via adept?
[06:43] <Duesentrieb> but i suppose jumpering it to slavce could work too
[06:43] <xmO1> i need to have my windows drive connected to comp when using the command right? and i hope that does'nt format my comp
[06:43] <xmO1> lol
[06:43] <xtknight> Duesentrieb: i dont think any disconnection is needed
[06:43] <phr34ck> Anyone familiar with Anjuta in here>
[06:43] <xtknight> Duesentrieb: just overwrite the MBR on /dev/hda and then grub can point to /dev/hda1 (windows) and /dev/hdb1( linux)
[06:43] <Duesentrieb> xtknight: <xmO1> it goes straight to windows id the windows drive is connected
[06:44] <xtknight> yes, that would mean the windows mbr is present on first sector.  we need to put grub on the first sector.  then grub can load both OSes
[06:44] <Adam123Z> Does anyone know where I can download the Lexmark Z600 printer driver from ? The lexmark website 404's :(
[06:44] <xtknight> windows boot loader will still be present at the start of the partition
[06:45] <xmO1> fdisk -l did not return any output
[06:45] <xtknight> xmO1: you need to put sudo in front of it
[06:45] <twisties> When I installed Ubuntu (live CD) grub installed to the first sector but I got disk errors when trying to boot windows
[06:45] <xmO1> oh sorry wrong command
[06:46] <stoorty> twisties: run fixboot i think it is
[06:46] <phr34ck> Hey I installed a program using wine, how can I uninstall it?
[06:46] <xtknight> xmO1: you should hook the windows drive up and then goto your boot menu and boot linux.  otherwise we can't do anything now
[06:46] <stoorty> or fixmbr
[06:46] <amir> after formating my computer my sound won't work, how do I get it to work again?
[06:46] <xtknight> xmO1: sorry, i forgot about that
[06:46] <xmO1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/345/plain/
[06:46] <adinsx> what is the best way to install older fglrx drivers?  I am getting a ./ati-installer.sh: 163: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[06:46] <twisties> I ran fixmbr in the windows console.
[06:46] <adinsx> is there a specific old driver that is best with mobility radeon 9000s?
[06:47] <twisties> now I can only get to my Linux through Grub boot disk. Id prefer grub to work off the hd
[06:47] <VMT2007> I have a question -- I have a five-button mouse, and I want to use the extra two buttons for web browsing
[06:47] <VMT2007> Anyone know about doing that?
[06:47] <ika> hi :)
[06:47] <MasterShrek_work> VMT2007 no, but if u figure it out, pm MasterShrek on it haha
[06:47] <xtknight> xmO1: alright.  shut down, put the windows drive in then go in your BIOS.  set first booting HD to your linux drive so that linux boots with windows HD in there, and then report back
[06:48] <BTR> PLease help me,  i want to try Gnome instead of KDE, but i dont know what package i should download via apt?
[06:48] <stefg> adinsx: in edgy it might be necessary to run the installer with 'bash ./ati-installer'
[06:48] <xtknight> !gnome
[06:48] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[06:48] <ika> any of you guys know "ed tha slayer"?
[06:48] <xtknight> !ubuntu-desktop
[06:48] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[06:48] <MasterShrek_work> BTR install ubuntu-desktop for gnome, kubuntu-desktop for kde
[06:48] <amir> !hda
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <xmO1> well the problem is that BIOS does not show second HDD for adding as a boot device.. it shows only the one with windows
[06:48] <BTR> Ohh, i was looking for Gnome-Desktop.. thanks!
[06:48] <amir> How do I get my sound to work ?
[06:49] <stefg> !sound | amir
[06:49] <xtknight> xmO1: umm.  well it should show the second device even if there's no master boot record at all, so something is awry with your bios setup
[06:49] <ubotu> amir: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[06:49] <adinsx> stefg you mean 'bash ati-installer' and then the version number and what not?
[06:49] <adinsx> no dice
[06:49] <xmO1> cant i edit the boot.ini in windows to point to the linux installation? so that instead of grub i can use windows boot loader to boot into linux????
[06:49] <Duesentrieb> VMT2007, MasterShrek_work: http://www.google.com/search?q=linux%20five-button-mouse
[06:49] <xtknight> xmO1: yes but it's pretty tricky
[06:50] <xtknight> xmO1: here's an idea
[06:50] <xmO1> wat?
[06:50] <xtknight> xmO1: put both HDs  in, use your ubuntu liveCD and come to this channel and i can tell you what to do next
[06:50] <stefg> adinsx: yes... edgy uses a different shell by default. To explicitly use bash, you got to invoke the installer with 'bash .... .sh'
[06:50] <Ralth> Hello guys!  Running kubuntu here, on an Inspiron 1300 laptop.  I know my monitor is capable of 1200x800, but the only option in the "Monitor & Display" settings is 1024x768.  Am I missing a driver, maybe?
[06:50] <adinsx> wouldn't it make more sense to use a more recent version?
[06:50] <xmO1> yep i can do that
[06:50] <adinsx> oh im almost positive im using bash
[06:50] <ika> hey, how can i put ubuntu on my macbook? haha
[06:50] <adinsx> adinsx@Cyberspace-Seven:/var/log$ echo $SHELL
[06:50] <adinsx> /bin/bash
[06:50] <Duesentrieb> Ralth: edit /etc/X/xorg.conf and add your resolution.
[06:50] <ika> if i partition the hard drive
[06:51] <xmO1> ok so i boot through live cd and then open up gaim to come to the channel right?
[06:51] <normmac> hey everyone, i just got ubuntu up and running with your help, but is it supposed to be so difficult to install application, even ones such as JRE 1.5?
[06:51] <xtknight> ika:  you need the ppc architecture of ubuntu for macs, or i386 for intel macs
[06:51] <Ralth> thanks!
[06:51] <Duesentrieb> Ralth: that's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:51] <stefg> adinsx: ok, then look somwhere else... was just an idea
[06:51] <xtknight> xmO1: correct, do that with both HDs connected and boot thru the livecd
[06:51] <Ralth> Dues: ok, got it.
[06:51] <xmO1> cool
[06:51] <adinsx> oh i know i don't mean to be rude
[06:51] <eitan> xtknight: here's my old kernel config.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/346/
[06:51] <xmO1> gimme a min
[06:51] <xtknight> k
[06:52] <normmac> can anyone point me in a direction to try to get accustom to this being difficult since i am coming from winxp
[06:52] <adinsx> ok, another question, will the "radeon" driver offer better performance than the "ati" driver, is there a difference?
[06:52] <xtknight> eitan: need the new one also
[06:52] <adinsx> im getting nothing but bad reviews for the proprietary driver
[06:53] <eitan> xtknight: roger, it's coming
[06:53] <adinsx> ya i dont have a choice, laptop and all :(
[06:53] <adinsx> its a fantastic laptop otherwise
[06:53] <eitan> xtknight: I'm compiling the kernel again with just the TIFM modules being extra
[06:53] <ika> xtknight, where can i find this?
[06:53] <ika> i have an intel mac.
[06:55] <xtknight> ika: just use the normal x86 ubuntu liveCDs
[06:55] <Ralth> Duesentrieb: I'm looking at that file, and 1200x800 seems to already be in there:
[06:55] <Ralth> SubSection "Display"
[06:55] <Ralth> 		Depth		24
[06:55] <Ralth> 		Modes		"1280x800"
[06:55] <Ralth> 	EndSubSection
[06:55] <Ralth> Any idea what's wrong?
[06:55] <xtknight> eitan: hmm
[06:55] <nikin> hy... i have a problem.... i tryed to install 6.10 on my "new" desktop system (Intel 85G chipset based ASrock Motherboard) and it halts with kernel panic
[06:55] <west_coast> anyone from greece?
[06:55] <adinsx> argh looking at ati.com im not even sure the mobility 9000 is supported
[06:55] <xtknight> eitan: you mean modules instead of builtin to kernel?
[06:55] <nikin> any ideas what to do?
[06:55] <adinsx> <:(
[06:55] <nikin> i used the alternate CD
[06:56] <xtknight> !ubuntu-gr
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-gr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <xtknight> hmm
[06:56] <twisties> Is it possible to shutdown x-server while in ubuntu? I cant seem to find any info regarding Ubuntu ditros
[06:56] <stefg> !gr
[06:56] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[06:56] <xtknight> ahhh
[06:56] <eitan> xtknight: oh i meanjust checking them in the config...i dunno what thats called
[06:57] <twisties> tried ctrl-alt-backspace but it goes back to gui login?
[06:57] <nikin> twist: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:57] <xmOD> ok i'm now on live cd
[06:57] <xtknight> eitan: well do you still have the kernel configuration you used for the last new kernel you built?
[06:57] <xtknight> xmOD: alright.  type sudo fdisk -l
[06:58] <eitan> yes
[06:58] <xtknight> eitan: ok ill need that on pastebin
[06:58] <Gosha> !jp
[06:58] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[06:58] <eitan> xtknight: although i think it's from your kernel
[06:58] <xmOD> wats the url to pastebin?
[06:58] <xmOD> sorry forgot
[06:58] <xtknight> !pastebin | xmOD
[06:58] <ubotu> xmOD: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:58] <Ralth> Duesentrieb: the resolution seems to be in that file, but it's not working.
[06:58] <xtknight> eitan: oh..hmm.  well can you post the config of the one youre buildng now?  /usr/src/linux/.config
[06:59] <eitan> yes
[06:59] <vintage-vinnie> I'm having samba problems can someone help me?
[06:59] <xmOD> here the link to the output..  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/348/plain/
[06:59] <NoEvidenZ> !samba
[06:59] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:59] <xtknight> vintage-vinnie: describe your problem in more detai
[07:00] <Gosha> ragnarok = fails on ubuntu via wine?
[07:00] <mortal> How do I get info about Linux version, Ubuntu version, etc on the command line?
[07:00] <xtknight> xmOD: great.  that's what we want.  type this: sudo grub-install /dev/sda        (NOT /dev/sda1)
[07:00] <vintage-vinnie> xtknight: I can see my ubuntu shares on the network on the windows computers but i can't access them. I need a password i would like to disable having to use a password
[07:01] <stefg> mortal: uname -r , cat /etc/issue
[07:01] <mortal> thanks
[07:01] <xtknight> vintage-vinnie: there may be an option under Shared Folders to control that
[07:01] <Ralth> Perhaps I should restate my problem ... I'm running kubuntu here, on an Inspiron 1300 laptop.  I know my monitor is capable of 1200x800, but the only option in the "Monitor & Display" settings is 1024x768.  I've checked xorg.conf, and the resolution seems to be there.  Any ideas?
[07:01] <eitan> xtknight: old one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/346/ new one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/349/
[07:01] <Duesentrieb> Ralth: it should be in all subsections (there's one subsection for each possible bit-depth)
[07:01] <noodles12> i downloaded and installed the new java runtime, but my school's star terminal program still says i need a plugin, what is wrong?
[07:01] <Duesentrieb> Ralth: you should also be seeing the other resolutions that are supported.
[07:02] <xmOD> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/350/plain/
[07:02] <xtknight> eitan: interesting.  did you not use the .1 patch for 2.6.19?
[07:02] <Duesentrieb> also, to take effect, you must restart the X-Server
[07:02] <xtknight> xmOD: ok.  hmm give me a sec
[07:02] <xmOD> sure
[07:02] <stefg> !fixres | Ralth
[07:02] <ubotu> Ralth: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:02] <xtknight> xmOD: does your linux drive appear mounted on the livecd anywhere?
[07:02] <eitan> xtknight: I followed the guide, althugh it did ask me q's about patching the kernel
[07:02] <NoEvidenZ> how do you restart the X-Server?
[07:03] <xtknight> eitan: hmm.  it had you apply the 2.6.19.1 patch by default right?
[07:03] <stefg> NoEvidenZ: have a read obove
[07:03] <vintage-vinnie> xtknight there is no option there
[07:03] <HymnToLife> NoEvidenZ, the easy way is Ctrl+Alt+BkSpc
[07:03] <xtknight> vintage-vinnie: hmm, not sure, sorry
[07:03] <xmOD> no
[07:03] <xtknight> eitan: not a big problem just wondered, but ill compare the two
[07:03] <nikin> my system crashes when trying to get info about CPU for acpid (the begining of the boot) ... what should i do?
[07:03] <HymnToLife> you can also switch to a tty and do sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[07:03] <bmd> anyone notice that www.getautomatix.com is down?
[07:03] <LeeJunFan> kind of OT: windows client connecting pptp to ubuntu router, there are multiple subnets on the private network and I'm not sure how to get windows to add routes for multiples subnets because lame windows uses it's own IP as GW in ptp setting.
[07:03] <xmOD> it does'nt show
[07:03] <eitan> xtknight: okay
[07:04] <xtknight> xmOD: alright.  `sudo mkdir -p /mnt/linux` .. then `sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/linux`
[07:04] <nikin> how can i start the system without ACPI?
[07:04] <xmOD> theres a space between sdb1 and /mnt right?
[07:04] <KenSentMe> Can i use network-manager-gnome for connecting to a wireless network that uses peap and mchap?
[07:04] <xtknight> eitan: ahh alright i think they redid the whole SATA architecture in the new kernel.  perhaps thats why.
[07:05] <xtknight> xmOD: yes
[07:05] <xmOD> ok both commands done
[07:05] <xmOD> now?
[07:05] <eitan> xtknight: okay...so im back in the config file now using qconf, which things should I select?
[07:05] <xtknight> eitan: i think you need CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA  enabled
[07:05] <xtknight> eitan: under ATA/ATAPI/MFM..
[07:05] <Ralth> Duesentrieb: Here is that section of xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/352/
[07:05] <xtknight> xmOD: alright. one sec
[07:05] <Ralth> Duesentrieb: Does it look as it should?
[07:06] <dave__> does ubuntu support 16:10 ratio monitors? ie: widescreen?
[07:06] <xtknight> xmOD: try this:      grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/linux/boot /dev/sda
[07:06] <xtknight> dave__: yes
[07:06] <HymnToLife> dave__, yes, if there are proper drivers for your graphics card
[07:06] <xmOD> no sudo right?
[07:06] <xtknight> xmOD: oh, yes sudo , sorry
[07:06] <dave__> hmmmm kickass
[07:07] <xmOD> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/linux/boot /dev/sda
[07:07] <xmOD> right?
[07:07] <xtknight> xmOD: correct
[07:07] <HymnToLife> xmOD, no, it should be /mnt/linux for root-dir
[07:07] <nikin> my system crashes when trying to get info about CPU for acpid (the begining of the boot) ... what should i do?
[07:07] <eitan> xtknight: should I do that in the text file or through qconf?  B.c. I cant find that setting in qconf, I'm looking in ATA/ATAPI.. menu
[07:07] <xtknight> oh?
[07:07] <nikin> how can i start the system without ACPI?
[07:07] <xmOD> i already put in the command
[07:07] <xmOD> its probing for devices
[07:07] <xtknight> xmOD: ok how did it go?  it may need to be /mnt/linux  .  it didnt hurt anything if we did it wrong the first time
[07:08] <xtknight> eitan: ok, uhh its labeled differently
[07:08] <NoEvidenZ> "Just work". I now know where it comes from.
[07:08] <xtknight> eitan: just a sec
[07:08] <stefg> !boot
[07:08] <twisties> ok. How do I go about setting up nVidia display drivers to work with a 7900gs?
[07:08] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[07:08] <xmOD> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[07:08] <xmOD> its at that
[07:08] <xmOD> still doing
[07:08] <HymnToLife> !nvidia | twisties
[07:08] <ubotu> twisties: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:08] <NoEvidenZ> The sobbing that you've sunken to by the end of the night. "Just work".
[07:08] <xmOD> i din get the promt again
[07:08] <xmOD> can i cancel it?
[07:08] <Ralth> Duesentrieb: Here is that section of xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/352/
[07:08] <Ralth> Duesentrieb: Does it look as it should?
[07:08] <HymnToLife> xmOD, yes, with Ctrl+C, I wouldn't do it though
[07:09] <xtknight> eitan: never mind, look under "Serial ATA (prod).."
[07:09] <xtknight> xmOD: dont cancel but what's happening now?
[07:09] <xtknight> eitan: please post your lspci -vv output to pastebin
[07:09] <xmOD> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/353/plain/
[07:09] <cavediver> Hi there, is there some plans for packaging Asterisk 1.4 to Ubuntu ?
[07:09] <xmOD> thats the output
[07:09] <xmOD> i did not cancel
[07:09] <xtknight> xmOD: ok we need to do this instead
[07:09] <stefg> cavediver: that's dealt with in #ubuntu-motu
[07:10] <xtknight> xmOD: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/linux /dev/sda
[07:10] <cavediver> stefg: ok-
[07:10] <xmOD> sure this time
[07:10] <Duesentrieb> Ralth: i would have expected to see the other resolutions there, too - but 1280x800 should work, as far as i see. unless the driver or hw doesn't actually support it. But there may be other problems i don't know about. not an expert for this stuff, sorry.
[07:10] <xtknight> xmOD: ya
[07:10] <gameover> help with ndiswrapper... driver installed hardware present but the wlan0 says no device found
[07:10] <xmOD> damn
[07:10] <bieb> I hate dialup.......
[07:10] <xmOD> dev/sdb1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[07:10] <xtknight> hmm
[07:10] <Ralth> Duesentrieb: Could it be that I have the wrong driver?
[07:11] <HymnToLife> gameover, maybe it's not wlan0, do   sudo iwconfig            to find out what the IF name is
[07:11] <xtknight> xmOD: you did sudo?
[07:11] <xmOD> dont u think it should be /dev/sda1
[07:11] <xmOD> yeh
[07:11] <xtknight> xmOD: no
[07:11] <Ralth> Duesentrieb: I know that the monitor supports 1200x800, at least under windows.
[07:11] <xtknight> xmOD: that will overwrite windows boot loader completely
[07:11] <xaaax> How can i change vga resolution on the command line?
[07:11] <xmOD> oh
[07:11] <xtknight> xmOD: we just need to overwrite first part of it
[07:11] <gameover> i have no card with wireless extension in iwconfig
[07:11] <eitan> xtknight: here's lspci -vv http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/354/
[07:11] <xtknight> xmOD: well it may boot anyway.  just it's messy with /mnt/linux/boot/boot
[07:11] <stefg> xaaax: you don't
[07:11] <xmOD> so now wat?
[07:11] <gameover> help plz!! =S
[07:12] <HymnToLife> gameover, then your wireless is not detected
[07:12] <bieb> here is the issue I am having... I converted my father over to Ubuntu, I am trying to configure his modem for dialup connection. I have downloaded and installed sl-modem-daemon, but wvdial keeps failing
[07:12] <xtknight> xmOD: can you try the last command one more time?
[07:12] <HymnToLife> gameover, have you done           sudo depmod -a && sudo modprobe ndiwsrapper         ?
[07:12] <xmOD> hm.. ok
[07:12] <bieb> I have had no luck with gnome-ppp either
[07:12] <gameover> but ndiswrapper says hardware present
[07:12] <xmOD> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/linux /dev/sda
[07:12] <xtknight> xmOD: and then post the whole error into pastebin
[07:12] <xtknight> xmOD: yes
[07:12] <xmOD> this one right?
[07:12] <xmOD> ok
[07:12] <gameover> yep i did
[07:13] <stefg> !modem | bieb
[07:13] <ubotu> bieb: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[07:13] <xtknight> eitan: enable "Intel PIIX/ICH SATA Support" and "AHCI SATA Support"...and then ill check and see if there anything else needed
[07:13] <eitan> xtknight: okay
[07:13] <xtknight> eitan: enable "Generic ATA support"
[07:13] <xmOD> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/356/plain/
[07:13] <bieb> Stefg, that is where I got the info for sl-modem-dialup
[07:13] <xmOD> thats our whole attempt
[07:13] <xtknight> eitan: and enable the rest of the intel stuff you see
[07:13] <Duesentrieb> Ralth: 1200x800 or 1280x800?...
[07:13] <bieb> sl-modem-daemon I mean
[07:13] <twisties> ubotu: #
[07:13] <twisties> In the package manager, select the Settings menu, then Repositories.
[07:13] <twisties> #
[07:13] <twisties> In the Software Preferences dialog that comes up, click the Add button.
[07:13] <twisties>          - There is no add button :S
[07:14] <xtknight> xmOD: odd.  can you post the output of 'sudo fdisk -l` again
[07:14] <xmOD> its in the paste
[07:14] <xmOD> see the top
[07:14] <eitan> xtknight: there's 2 other intel things about PATAs
[07:14] <stefg> bieb: try the -386 kernel and -386 restricted packages... My laptops internal ltmodem works with -386, but fails with -generic
[07:14] <xtknight> xmOD: yeah we need to do it again to see if the layout changec
[07:14] <Ralth> Duesentrieb: AH!  That could be the problem.  I didn't notice that difference.
[07:14] <xtknight> eitan: enable those too, cant hurt, they are small modules
[07:14] <bieb> for the sl-modem-daemon?
[07:15] <georgy> gameover : you find ndiswrapper when you do the lsmod command ?
[07:15] <stefg> !linux-image-386
[07:15] <eitan> xtknight: should I select "support for SATA (deprecated)" in the ATA/ATAPI... menu too?
[07:15] <ubotu> linux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[07:15] <xmOD> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/357/plain/
[07:15] <xtknight> eitan: no
[07:15] <stefg> !linux-restricted-modules-386
[07:15] <eitan> xtknight: okay
[07:15] <ubotu> linux-restricted-modules-386: Restricted Linux modules on 386.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[07:15] <Zta> How do I make my box use ipv4 instead of ipv6?
[07:15] <eitan> xtknight: going to compile it
[07:15] <xtknight> xmOD: well reboot and see if it works
[07:15] <gameover> yes
[07:15] <xtknight> eitan: ok
[07:15] <xmOD> u think it'll work?
[07:15] <bieb> stefg, I installed 6.05
[07:15] <bieb> 6.06
[07:15] <xtknight> xmOD: most likely.  if not u can still use the livecd
[07:16] <Zta> Can I simply add "ipv6" to the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ?
[07:16] <xtknight> !ipv6
[07:16] <KenSentMe> Can i use network-manager-gnome for connecting to a wireless network that uses peap and mchap?
[07:16] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:16] <stefg> bieb: wjhat does uname -r tell you?
[07:16] <Zta> thanks
[07:16] <xmOD> and if it does'nt work then u want me to boot through the live cd? otherwise if i have to boot into ubuntu then i'd have to disconnect the windows HDD
[07:16] <xtknight> xmOD: correct , boot thru livecd
[07:16] <bieb> 2.6.15-27-386
[07:16] <gameover> :S
[07:17] <gameover>  ndiswrapper (load_sys_files:215): couldn't prepare driver 'bcmwl5'
[07:17] <gameover> thats what dmesg says
[07:17] <stefg> bieb: ok... so you have linux-restricted-modules-386 installed?
[07:17] <gameover> any clue?
[07:17] <bieb> stefg.. how can I verify?
[07:17] <Aggort> Is it wise or safe at all to install Ubuntu on the same hard drive as Windows?
[07:18] <xtknight> Aggort: no
[07:18] <xtknight> Aggort: well not the same partition
[07:18] <xtknight> Aggort: same hd diff partition fine
[07:18] <Aggort> Well duh
[07:18] <stefg> bieb: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-386
[07:18] <nikin> i have problems installing Edgy on an Asrock i845G  based motherbord... with windows it just runs fine. but with Ubuntu it hangs at the boot process
[07:18] <Aggort> lol
[07:18] <Aggort> I know that
[07:18] <xtknight> haha
[07:18] <Aggort> I am not a total noob
[07:18] <twisties> !nvidia
[07:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:19] <bieb> stefg... say it is already the newest version
[07:19] <stefg> nikin: you'll have to pass the acpi=off parameter at boot
[07:20] <nikin> stefg: i tryed that, but didnt work. but i try it again
[07:20] <stefg> bieb: so the slmodem daemon is run at bootup? Is /dev/modem created?
[07:21] <Aggort> Let me explain... I hate Windows much like anyone else. I have a macbook but want to start running Linux for quicker access and a faster OS than Windows. But, when I installed Ubuntu on the same hard drive over another partition before Ubuntu realy screwed up. I cou;dn't acvcess Ubuntu at all it'd get to the login screena nd when I'd login it would lock up. Next I tried accessing Windows and...
[07:21] <Aggort> ...it wouldn't load. It'd take me to a blue screen flash and reboot. So I've been nervous to install Ubuntu ever again. But now I want to try with 6.10 and all and wanted to get some better help before trying to install it all alone!
[07:21] <theyaga_> hi everyone :) .We in our GLUG intend to build a custom distribution based on debian ,can anyone point to me some nice HOW-TO`s to build a debian based distro
[07:21] <Aggort> I'd love to install it on ym ahrd drive instead of jsut using the live CD cus I assume it's much faster.
[07:22] <nikin> tefg: the Kernel panics and i get a calltrace
[07:22] <xmOD> PROBLEM!
[07:22] <bieb> stefg.. as far as I can tell it runs at startup, and there is a /dev/modem
[07:22] <xmOD> can i talk to you in chat xtkight?
[07:22] <xtknight> xmOD: sure
[07:22] <Aggort> So any advice?
[07:22] <xtknight> Aggort: not sure.  i have never installed linux on a mac
[07:22] <bieb> if I run gnome-ppp and in the config I tell it to locate modem it finds it, it lists ttySL0
[07:22] <Aggort> No no this is on a windows PC
[07:22] <fox_> has anyone tryed to install a teamspeak server ??
[07:22] <jugUT> how can I install grub from the 6.10 ubuntu livecd?
[07:23] <stefg> bieb: ok, so the common stuff is checked... since ltmodem runs nicely out of the box with 386-kernels i never had to troubleshoot..
[07:23] <Aggort> It's an AMD64 processor, Nvidia 6600 graphics card and a gig of RAM 80 gig hard drive.
[07:23] <bieb> This is why I hate dialup
[07:24] <jugUT> xtknight; it looks like I had grub installed to my second hdd... it won't boot windows without the second hdd.  Do you remember helping me a little bit ago?
[07:24] <Aggort> I want to install it but withou messing up my Windows partition again
[07:24] <Ralth> It looks like I have the i815 driver for my Intel 915 graphics card.  How do I get the right driver?
[07:24] <xtknight> jugUT: i think so *hallucinating*...
[07:24] <bieb> any other modem/dialup gurus here?
[07:24] <xtknight> jugUT: you may have to debrief me on it briefly again
[07:25] <Music_Shuffle> Aggort, on the macbook install, did you use...the PPC edition? O_o
[07:25] <Aggort> I never tried with my macbook
[07:25] <Music_Shuffle> Ahh. ok.
[07:25] <Aggort> it was my PC I tried it on lol
[07:25] <Music_Shuffle> To not messup your WIndows partition...
[07:25] <Music_Shuffle> !dualboot | Aggort
[07:25] <ubotu> Aggort: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[07:25] <jugUT> I have 2 hard drives hda with windows and hdb with ubuntu.  I took out the ubuntu entries in /boot/grub/menu.lst and tried to boot without hdb being present.  it did not work
[07:26] <jugUT> I get grub error 21
[07:26] <stefg> Aggort: Given that your partition table isn't broken already ubuntu should install just fine side by side with win... and in case you want your original MBR back, all you have to do is bootup the win-install-CD to rescue-console and 'fixmbr'
[07:26] <xtknight> jugUT: hmmmm, odd.
[07:26] <twisties> Anyone feel like running me through setting up nVidia driver? seeing the ubuntu documentation page shows incorrect steps
[07:26] <nikin> i get Kernel Panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt
[07:26] <Aggort> Stefg: Yea, I learned that this time around.
[07:26] <jugUT> stefg; I need to do something like that, but I do not have an xp cd - is there an alternative?
[07:26] <albert> ubuntu-fr
[07:26] <Ralth> It looks like I have the i815 driver for my Intel 915 graphics card.  How do I get the right driver?
[07:27] <gameover> trying to compile ndiswrapper i get this error:
[07:27] <gameover> bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: not found
[07:27] <xtknight> can you replace a UUID= with a block device to boot on Edgy?
[07:27] <houman> hi there, does anyone know what the "&" does when you run a command in bash with the "&" after it?
[07:27] <gameover> someone can help?
[07:27] <stefg> jugUT: yes... format the win partiton and get a OS on the free space :-)
[07:27] <Aggort> Would it be a good idea to run the Live CD first to see if Ubuntu will actually load this time?
[07:27] <nikin> houman: it detaches the program from the console
[07:28] <jugUT> ohh no stefg... it's my g/f's comp she would kill me and then there would be one less linux advocate in the world
[07:28] <houman> nikin: do you know whats the equivalent in DOS? i need to write a batch script with the commands running simultanouesly like in bash with the "&" but the "&" doesnt work there
[07:28] <jugUT> it's a silly dell and she doesn't know where the recovery cds are anyway
[07:29] <stefg> jugUT: you need a bootable rescue medium for Windows... even a win98 bootfloppy can do fdisk /mbr
[07:29] <jugUT> is there a way to fix grub on the mbr throgh a live cd?
[07:29] <donnatello> hi everyone we at our GLUG would want to build on a distro based on ubuntu/debian.can anyone throw up some useful pointers to it ?
[07:29] <nikin> houman: DOS is a sigle user single task OS so forget it
[07:29] <jugUT> I'm ok with using grub just without linux being present
[07:29] <xtknight> How do I get the UUID for a block device?
[07:29] <west_coast> ANYONE FROM GREECE?
[07:29] <stefg> !grub
[07:29] <houman> nikin: yes but i am running it inside windows, its not a real DOS environment,
[07:29] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:29] <xtknight> !gr | west_coast
[07:29] <ubotu> west_coast: #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[07:29] <stefg> !gr | west_coast
[07:30] <Aggort> Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the file I want for my PC? ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[07:31] <twisties> can anyone help with nVidia driver install? Ubuntu guide seems to have wrong steps :(
[07:31] <stefg> Aggort: consider 32-bit if you want to avoid trouble
[07:31] <georgy> Aggort : try the alternte cd
[07:31] <nikin> houman: i ame not a real windows geek , so i dont know... sorry
[07:31] <Aggort> stefg: K
[07:31] <stefg> Aggort: 6.06.1-alternate-i386
[07:32] <xtknight> !pastebin
[07:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:32] <Aggort> stefg: But I have AMD processor
[07:32] <burwaco> hello everyone
[07:32] <Aggort> AMD64
[07:32] <burwaco> Is there a way to display pictures with elinks ? without an Xserver ?
[07:32] <stefg> Aggort: which is a flavor of i386
[07:33] <Aggort> stedg: Why the alternate? I don't want to install right away, I want to make sure that the live version is going to run first. If that doesn't then there really isn't a reason for me to install right?
[07:33] <stefg> !links2 | burwaco
[07:33] <ubotu> burwaco: Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[07:33] <stefg> !info links2 | burwaco
[07:33] <ubotu> links2: Web browser running in both graphics and text mode. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1pre23-1 (edgy), package size 2009 kB, installed size 3224 kB
[07:33] <nikin>  i did acpi=off and my kernel still panics with "not syncing Fatal exception in interrupt" EIP is at clear_local_APIC+0x21/0xC0
[07:33] <xaaax> Is is possible to divide the command line in small buffers like vim or emacs
[07:33] <xaaax> ?
[07:34] <xtknight> nikin: you need to disable apic maybe not acpi
[07:34] <Aggort> stefg: Why the alternate? I don't want to install right away, I want to make sure that the live version is going to run first. If that doesn't then there really isn't a reason for me to install right?    lol I typoed
[07:34] <xtknight> nikin: `noapic nolapic` paramters
[07:34] <nikin> ok 1 sec
[07:34] <NoEvidenZ> !nvidia
[07:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:35] <Aggort> I mean what is the difference between Alterante and the regular Decktop CD?
[07:35] <stefg> Aggort: ok, the take Desktop... but the Desktop installer is not as good and fast as the alternate one. But in for a testdrive the Desktop will do
[07:35] <sa_morenita> ola!!
[07:35] <stefg> !es
[07:35] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:36] <stefg> !ct
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ct - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <Aggort> stefg: Thank you! Am I correct though by saying that if the Live Desktop doesn't work than the installed version won't either?
[07:36] <stefg> hehe... no catalan
[07:37] <stefg> Aggort: that depends... might be your graphics isn't auto-setup correctly, but the in the installed version you can fix that... itb really depends on /wht's/ not working
[07:37] <Aggort> Oh I understand
[07:38] <nikin> xtknight: noapic and lopaic doesnot work... i get the same error
[07:38] <kampret77> [need assistance Dapper Wireless M2n Asus] 
[07:38] <Aggort> Well before it was my log in. I couldn't get past the desktop. All that would load was the tan background and nothing else. It sucked
[07:38] <nikin> oh sorrys
[07:38] <xtknight> nikin: nolapic not lopaic ;)
[07:38] <gameover> bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: not found
[07:38] <gameover> help?
[07:39] <Aggort> I still ahve no clue why that happened
[07:39] <kampret77> [need assistance to set up WLAN in dapper] 
[07:39] <nikin> not the same... this time: Kernel Panic: not syncing: Atempted to kill init the EIP is the same
[07:39] <Ralth> Has anyone used 915resolution before?
[07:39] <stefg> !wifi | kampret77
[07:39] <ubotu> kampret77: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:39] <kampret77> yup yup yup
[07:39] <xtknight> nikin: hmm not sure.  what type of machine do you have?
[07:39] <nikin> xt: i have writen that.. sry i did here a typo
[07:39] <kampret77> I am aware but I face something strange
[07:39] <killown> anyone know any simulator guitar effects software?
[07:40] <xtknight> nikin: oh.  ok try `acpi=off noapic nolapic`  (all of those)
[07:40] <nikin> intel 845G based ASrock, with a 2,8Ghz Celeron
[07:40] <burwaco> well that didn't really help, my question was: how can I display images in webpages without an x-server
[07:40] <xtknight> nikin: or try disabling apic and acpi in the bios if that doesnt work
[07:40] <sleepy5432> My computer wont't turn off when I try to turn it off, it goes black and the computer is stilll running, any suggestions?
[07:40] <killown> anyone know any simulator guitar effects software?
[07:41] <NoEvidenZ> !fixres
[07:41] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:41] <kyncani> sleepy5432: reboot and check the logs /var/log/syslog
[07:41] <NoEvidenZ> Does ubuuntu support widescreen resolutions, or would i need new drivers for that or something?
[07:42] <roler> How can I make Edgy's Firefox 2.0 Form buttons and text fields look like that of my Gnome's GTK2 desktop?
[07:42] <nikin> it hangs.... but no error message... it didnt freezes just it does nothing more.
[07:43] <xtknight> nikin: what type of PC do you have?
[07:43] <nikin> intel 845G based ASrock, with a 2,8Ghz Celeron
[07:43] <xyzzyx> anywone seen this with mplayer? Xlib:  extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:44] <houman> nikin: thanks ok :) i dont use windows either, its for a school computer, i couldnt find a solution so i made two bash files instead of one, thanks for your help
[07:44] <xyzzyx> believe it is when using latest xorg distribution that something has changed name
[07:44] <xyzzyx> xorg.log shows (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[07:44] <nikin> houman: np
[07:44] <xyzzyx> so, no XFree86 at the start
[07:45] <roflarn> ello i followed the vnc tutorial ( http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/12/xubuntu-remote-desktop-with-vnc4server.html ) , does anyone know how i can switch it so it uses the active session on the pc?
[07:46] <gregcha117> can someone tell me how to get quicktime media working in firefox?
[07:46] <bieb> stefg... what else can I try for dialup? I have tried wvdial and gnome-ppp
[07:46] <svish> !c++ | svish
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <svish> alrighty then...
[07:47] <svish> !compiler
[07:47] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:48] <disasm> whats the best way to upgrade sarge to ubuntu with only 1 reboot? I was thinking of removing almost all packages from sarge, changing repositories update; dist-upgrade, install ubuntu-desktop, run bash script to add any custom packages and make any custom changes, but hardest part with that is removing all the packages I possibly can without breaking apt
[07:50] <garret> looking for help with packaging, we have an application that is a deb package and needs mysql access, how do we create it so that it ask the pertinant infos and creates the database?
[07:50] <stephank> Hello. (In feisty) does anyone know how to launch azureus with the console UI? Simply running "azureus --ui=console" briefly shows the swt UI and then closes with no traceback.
[07:50] <kyncani> disasm: you don't upgrade from debian to ubuntu, just install ubuntu
[07:50] <HymnToLife> disasm, that's pretty much equivelent to a reinstall to me
[07:51] <svish> hmm.. that didnt help... how do I compile simple sourcecode?
[07:51] <HymnToLife> but far more troublesome
[07:51] <svish> c++
[07:51] <HymnToLife> !compile
[07:51] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:51] <svish> HymnToLife: that didnt help me. it said make. I wrote the cpp file myself. dont have any make
[07:52] <aoupi> svish: g++ -o appname source.cpp
[07:52] <svish> thanks :)
[07:52] <garret> any help from anybody in creating a deb package?
[07:52] <aoupi> no problem
[07:53] <Jaak_> how do i change the kubuntu look in ubuntu
[07:53] <shreeve> is there a channel for fiesty talk?
[07:53] <Jaak_> for example how do i make kaffeine look human-gnomisch?
[07:54] <philip__> shreeve, #ubuntu+1
[07:54] <javb> Installed Ndiswrapper, installed my wifi card (Broadcom 4311) and started using it with no problem. But, after  a minutes.. it just STOPS working. any ideas guys ?
[07:54] <sleepy5432> kynconi, I can't even reboot my pc
[07:54] <m0dY> how to get a command auto executed everytime i chroot to a jail'd environment
[07:55] <nikin> i have a system, and i cant boot up linux ( intel 845G based ASrock, with a 2,8Ghz Celeron), (the setup from the alternate CD went allright....) i turned off acpi, apic and lapic but it still freezes. any ideas?
[07:56] <disasm> kyncani, HymnToLife: yes, I know a reinstall would be better, but I have to do this to 75 computers, all of which have custom fstabs and network setups. I'm doing this on a pilot machine so I can see how hard it will be to make the switch. with the recent debian holdup on etch my boss gave me the go ahead to start working on a migration path
[07:56] <xmOD> can i customize the terminal so that it always starts at the desktop so that i can jus do cd and change to folders? casue right now i have to do cd 4 times to get to the desktop to access stuff
[07:57] <phiqtion> im trying to convert a file from rpm to deb and alien tells me the file isnt in the desktop, im running ubuntu inside vmware, any help?
[07:58] <PriceChild> phiqtion: you need to find out where it is then
[07:58] <Flannel> xmOD: there's a package "nautilus-open-terminal", which will add a "open terminal" command to your right click menu, allowing you to open a terminal at any folder
[07:58] <xmOD> thx flannel
[07:58] <phiqtion> PriceChild, it's right on my desktop
[07:58] <gregcha117> how can i get quicktime files to play in firefox?
[07:58] <kyncani> disasm: i suppose you could play with debfoster, maybe
[07:58] <xmOD> but is'nt there any bash script which controls where the terminal starts form?
[07:58] <PriceChild> PhilKC: so "cd Desktop"
[07:58] <PriceChild> argh
[07:59] <Riyo> I type su, and it asks for a password, what is it? I put my password, and it doesnt work
[07:59] <PriceChild> phiqtion: so "cd Desktop" then "alien <<filename>>"
[07:59] <warkruid> xmOD: yes .bashrc, but it doesn't get parsed right under ubuntu
[07:59] <Flannel> Riyo: the root password, which doesn't exist.  use sudo instead.
[07:59] <_aibot_> root password
[07:59] <xmOD> ok
[07:59] <javb> Installed Ndiswrapper, installed my wifi card (Broadcom 4311) and started using it with no problem. But, after  a minutes.. it just STOPS working. any ideas guys ?
[07:59] <Ferret> warkruid: You mean, it does do it right, but the right way is unintuitive. ;p
[07:59] <PriceChild> !root | Riyo
[07:59] <nikin> error message is : "Kernel Panic: not syncing: Atempted to kill init!", the EIP is clear_local_APIC
[07:59] <PriceChild> bah
[07:59] <PriceChild> ubotu's gone hasn't it
[08:00] <nikin> i have a system, and i cant boot up linux ( intel 845G based ASrock, with a 2,8Ghz Celeron), (the setup from the alternate CD went allright....) i turned off acpi, apic and lapic but it still freezes. any ideas?
[08:00] <shreeve> #ubuntu+1
[08:00] <Riyo> wha?
[08:00] <shreeve> philip__ - thanks!
[08:00] <PriceChild> nikin: where does it fail/
[08:00] <warkruid> Ferret: no it doesn't work right period.
[08:00] <xmOD> @Flannel: the nautilus-open-terminal is not listed in synaptic
[08:00] <Riyo> the password is root password?
[08:00] <Flannel> xmOD: it's in universe
[08:00] <disasm> warkruid: .bashrc is for login shells, .bash_profile is for non-login shells (xterm, gnome-terminal) iirc
[08:00] <stoorty> riyo your passowrd is the root password
[08:00] <PriceChild> Riyo: nothing sorry, we normally have a bot here with some nice easy to show links.... its in for repairs right now and will be back soon
[08:00] <Ferret> warkruid: Explain.
[08:00] <stoorty> use sudo
[08:00] <phiqtion> PriceChild, shouldn't i convert the rpm file first to deb?
[08:00] <Flannel> Riyo: su wants the root password (which doesn't exist).  sudo wants your password.  Ubuntu uses sudo instead of su.
[08:01] <nikin> Price Child: just a min
[08:01] <PriceChild> Riyo: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:01] <dhq> i need help with mldonkey
[08:01] <xmOD> @Flannel: wats universe? sorry am new to linux
[08:01] <seanj> unless you want to use SWAT >:|
[08:01] <disasm> phiqtion: have you tried alien?
[08:01] <Riyo> Well sudo su works for me :p
[08:01] <PriceChild> phiqtion: first yuou have to "cd" to the folder where it is
[08:01] <Ferret> warkruid: I'm given the impression that under linux the rc files for shells depend upon whether they're logged into on real consoles (login shells) or not.  Are you saying there is some other problem, or bug, in ubuntu?
[08:01] <warkruid> Ferret: opening the terminal doesn't automatically parse the .bashrc.
[08:01] <phiqtion> disasm, im trying to install vmware tools
[08:01] <Flannel> Riyo: use sudo -i instead.  read about it here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:02] <josh__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mBDQXWflbM&eurl=
[08:02] <PriceChild> josh__: not in here thanks
[08:02] <Ferret> warkruid: That's because it isn't a login shell, probably.  That's normal and correct.
[08:02] <nikin> PriceChild: at "Starting Kernel Even Manager...."
[08:02] <xmOD> @Flannel: wats universe? sorry am new to linux
[08:02] <k010> on edgy anyway to adjust the brightness on a laptop??
[08:02] <Flannel> xmOD: it's a separate repository for packages, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[08:02] <PriceChild> xmOD: all the community supported packages
[08:02] <Flannel> xmOD: that page will walk you through how to add universe
[08:02] <Draiden> Good evening
[08:02] <PriceChild> xmOD: I.e. not supported by Canonical
[08:03] <Ferret> warkruid: Or perhaps because it parses .bash_profile instead and that file is wrong.  Or both.  It's one or the other.
[08:03] <_aibot_> K010: You should have a "Fn" button on your laptop somewhere ?
[08:03] <dhq> !kmldonkey
[08:03] <sleepy5432> What can be causing my computer to not respond to Turn off or any other command that turns off my ubuntu?
[08:03] <eitan> xtknight: okay rebooting..
[08:03] <nikin> PriceChild: i get "BUG: uable to handle kernel paging reqest at virtual adress...."
[08:03] <disasm> warkruid: add source .bashrc to your .bash_profile
[08:03] <k010> _aibot_, they dont work
[08:03] <PriceChild> yay they're back :)
[08:03] <warkruid> Ferret: tnx
[08:03] <Draiden> /j ##ubuntu-nl
[08:03] <disasm> warkruid: err, source ~/.bashrc
[08:03] <PriceChild> nikin: i'm not sure sorry, was just asking for more information for others to be able to help, your initial description was pretty vague :)
[08:04] <Draiden> woops sorry
[08:04] <k010> _aibot_, the fn key does not wotk
[08:04] <_aibot_> k010: As far as I know the Fn key is functioned by your laptop and not Ubuntu
[08:04] <Ferret> k010: There's a /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness file you can cat or echo to, but hardly any laptops actually support that feature
[08:04] <gregcha117> can someone help me get quicktime videos to work?
[08:05] <PriceChild> !mp3 | gregcha117
[08:05] <ubotu> gregcha117: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:05] <hnbc34> ok..sorta new to this, so her eis my question ,and it seems simple as a lot of people probably have this problem but i cannot seem to find the answer. i get no video when i put the live cd in once gnome starts. is there a way around this? because i would really like to use it on my laptop
[08:05] <PriceChild> hnbc34: tried safe graphics mode?
[08:05] <Ferret> _aibot_: Sometimes they're done by software drivers because those (higher-level drivers) are easier to write. :/
[08:05] <xmOD> i dont know why but i dont have any "System" > "Administration" > "Software Properties"
[08:05] <hnbc34> hmmm
[08:05] <xmOD> and its not in the menu settings eithe
[08:05] <hnbc34> that seems to simple
[08:06] <Flannel> xmOD: what version of ubuntu are you running? (that's most likely the cause for the name differences)
[08:06] <Ferret> _aibot_: I hate laptop manufacturers that make core functionality of the system rely on win32 drivers.  That's why the volume buttons on this laptop don't work
[08:06] <xmOD> the newest one.. 6.10
[08:06] <nikin> PriceChild: imho there is a problem with the interrupt clear_local_APIC, wich is strange coz apic is turned off
[08:06] <_aibot_> My laptop runs fine. I am lucky I guess.
[08:06] <PriceChild> nikin: still no idea sorry :)
[08:06] <k010> wasnt there a brightness applets for gnome
[08:07] <roflarn> ello i followed the vnc tutorial ( http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/12/xubuntu-remote-desktop-with-vnc4server.html ) , does anyone know how i can switch it so it uses the active session on the local pc rather than creating a new one?
[08:07] <nikin> my laptop runs fine to... just this ***** desktop brings me 6 feet under
[08:07] <_aibot_> k010: http://www.liquidx.net/gnome-vaiolcd/
[08:07] <hnbc34> my laptop worked like a charm
[08:07] <hnbc34> i meant desktop
[08:07] <xmOD> the newest one.. 6.10
[08:07] <hnbc34> every other thing i have found the answer in like 2 mins
[08:08] <nikin> !apic
[08:08] <k010> yeah all the hotkeys on my laptop dnt function
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <k010> !apic
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <_aibot_> nikin: Do you mean apci ?
[08:08] <nikin> k010: the numpad ones to?
[08:09] <_aibot_> acpi*
[08:09] <k010> i dont have a num pad fo rmy laptop
[08:09] <Ferret> hnbc34: Explain what you mean by no video when gnome starts.  Do you mean everything is fine right up until gnome comes up, then the screen goes entirely blank?  Could it be that it's trying to use a resolution your monitor doesn't support
[08:09] <k010> its a 15"
[08:09] <Flannel> xmOD: I'm not entirely sure what the text is for that under edgy.  It's under administration though.
[08:09] <nikin> _aibot_ nope... my error message is about: clear_local_APIC
[08:10] <_aibot_> nikin: ok my bad >.<
[08:10] <hnbc34> yeah once gnome starts in just goes black..so i know it is a video card issue
[08:10] <xmOD> ok got it flannel
[08:10] <hnbc34> had the issue with cards on my desktop
[08:10] <brasko> what package should I install to get a program to help me generate a pgp key?
[08:10] <xmOD> its called software sources
[08:10] <hnbc34> changed the card and it worked fine
[08:10] <_aibot_> hnbc34: What video card do you have ?
[08:10] <k010> _aibot_, would that applet work under a toshiba laptop
[08:11] <hnbc34> the laptop is a ati pieceof crap
[08:11] <hnbc34> don't even know the chipset
[08:11] <Ferret> brasko: have you tried using this page?: http://packages.ubuntu.org/
[08:11] <Ferret> It's very nifty
[08:11] <kampret77> [I cant turn on  IPW 2100 wlan device] 
[08:11] <Ferret> search features and things
[08:11] <_aibot_> k010: I will check.
[08:11] <k010> _aibot_, thx
[08:11] <brasko> well, I tried 'apt-cache search pgp' but nothing stuck out
[08:12] <kampret77> Someone can help me to sett up my wlan to connect to AP
[08:12] <kampret77> I already install ndiswrapper
[08:12] <kampret77> and set all the settings
[08:12] <TyRiOn-MX> hi :)
[08:12] <kampret77> but i cant connect to router
[08:13] <_aibot_> k010: Not sure but its worth a try ?
[08:13] <Flannel> brasko: the Free version of that is gpg
[08:13] <k010> _aibot_, any inside on how to fix my fn keys?
[08:13] <brasko> I see
[08:14] <brasko> Flannel: thanks
[08:14] <Ferret> brasko: I meant try something like this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=bin/pgp
[08:14] <phr34ck> any good alternatives of amsn ?
[08:14] <Ferret> Therein lies niftiness
[08:14] <nikin> i have a system, and i cant boot up linux ( intel 845G based ASrock, with a 2,8Ghz Celeron), (the setup from the alternate CD went allright....) i turned off acpi, apic and lapic but it still freezes. any ideas?
[08:14] <somerville32> !welcome | iratsu
[08:14] <ubotu> iratsu: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[08:14] <nikin> error message is : "Kernel Panic: not syncing: Atempted to kill init!", the EIP is clear_local_APIC
[08:14] <Ferret> phr34ck: There are a lot of programs that do MSN without trying to look exactly like MSN, such as gaim, centericq, bitlbee
[08:14] <Flannel> brasko: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto for all the gorey details
[08:14] <nikin> it hepens at "Starting Kernel Event Manager...."
[08:15] <gregcha117> does anyone know how to get totem to recognize rtsp:// when playing quicktime files, all the other protocols work fine?
[08:15] <gregcha117> i keep getting There is no input plugin to handle the location of this movie
[08:15] <phr34ck> Ferret,  what do you recommand? I have tried gaim and amsn so far ... none worked as I hoped.
[08:15] <Ferret> Flannel: Gnu Privacy Guard (GPG) and Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) are the same thing?
[08:15] <phr34ck> They're just plain rubbish.
[08:15] <Ferret> phr34ck: Well, what do you want? :)
[08:15] <brasko> Flannel: thank you very much
[08:16] <phr34ck> An alternative of MSN, since I can't use that on Ubuntu.
[08:16] <Flannel> Ferret: PGP is a standard, GPG is a Free (as in speech) implementation of the OpenPGP standard
[08:16] <georgy> phr34ck : amsn, gaim, kopete,...
[08:16] <k010> phr34ck, try aMSN
[08:16] <V-Feez> with jabber you could use msn
[08:16] <_aibot_> k010: Might have a look around http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[08:16] <hnbc34> ok...so in safe graphics mode i got video although it said there were problems with themes and crap which doesn't matter to me
[08:16] <TyRiOn-MX> i installed vmware-player from sources, after a week it seems it was not working well, so i tried "apt-get remove vmware-player" but it tells that vmware-player was not installed , so i did "apt-get install vmware-player" but it failed the config procedure, and the installer exited with "error code 1", so i tried to launch the uninstall script found on the vmware-player sources directory, but however i can't use my vmplayer ... what can i do
[08:16] <TyRiOn-MX> for fix it? thx
[08:16] <sleepy5432> How can I  track down a problem I have. I can't reboot my computer or turn it off, I have to press the PC button manually. This never happened before
[08:16] <Flannel> Ferret: PGP and GPG do the same thing, that is.  when talking about PGP as a program.
[08:16] <phr34ck> k010, I'm using it now ... it's plain super dupper rubbish.
[08:16] <Ferret> phr34ck: Do you need it to be able to do all the silly features of MSN (like multiplayer paint etc.), or would you rather have something usable that fits in with the rest of the linux thing? For example, there are some excellent text-based clients
[08:16] <k010> _aibot_, cool bruv
[08:16] <meow^> hello, I had ubuntu working properly up until i installed windows xp on another partition. Is there any way for me to reinstall grub through the live cd rather than reinstalling the whole os
[08:17] <phr34ck> The worst program I have ever used.
[08:17] <phr34ck> Ferret, I'm looking for the "silly" features of MSN.
[08:17] <k010> phr34ck, gaim is nice
[08:17] <svish> yeah, gaim is nice :)
[08:17] <TyRiOn-MX> meow^: yes, insert the cd, skip to the "grup installer step" reinstall it and reboot
[08:17] <K_Mandla> hello all
[08:17] <marc\cba> sleepy5432 - if you type "shutdown -h now" into a console, what is the response?
[08:17] <Flannel> sleepy5432: does "sudo shutdown now" work to shutdown your computer?
[08:17] <Ferret> phr34ck: gaim is the closest you'll get then.  AFAIK it has the closest approximation of MSN's "features"
[08:17] <phr34ck> k010,  GAIM is eating my contacts, that's why I didn't like it. And the interface is like ... *sighs*
[08:18] <sleepy5432> it just spams $
[08:18] <Flannel> !grub | meow^, first link
[08:18] <ubotu> meow^, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:18] <meow^> grub installer step?
[08:18] <sleepy5432> then goes blank
[08:18] <TyRiOn-MX> no one can help me?
[08:18] <phr34ck> define AFAIK.
[08:18] <Ferret> phr34ck: Fix the former and change the latter, then
[08:18] <IntuitiveNipple> meow: its possible to add the ubuntu partiton as a bootable OS in Windows C:\boot.ini - check Google
[08:18] <meow^> i've using the 6.10 i386 cd
[08:18] <phr34ck> I seriously need to search for something .. I'm just being lazy ;p
[08:18] <marc\cba> sleepy5432.... that is processes and daemons ending
[08:18] <Flannel> meow^: that's fine.  That link will give you all your options, regardless of which CD you have
[08:18] <_aibot_> k010: Got to go, good luck. You might want to search and post at the Ubuntu Forums too ...
[08:19] <meow^> that might be a better idea. thanks nipple
[08:19] <k010> phr34ck, use kde kopete
[08:19] <Ferret> phr34ck: No, seriously, none of the other programs do all the silly crap^W"features"
[08:19] <k010> some people like that
[08:19] <Ferret> phr34ck: For some reason there isn't a big demand among linuxy types for Nudge etc.
[08:19] <IntuitiveNipple> lol
[08:19] <sleepy5432> what do I do about it marc?
[08:19] <IntuitiveNipple> much more fun in real life, isn't it?
[08:19] <phr34ck> I'm not looking for nudges, at least I need the camera thingie.
[08:20] <nikin> ok i think i just reinstall windows :(((
[08:20] <Alakazamz0r> lolol
[08:20] <Alakazamz0r> lolol
[08:20] <georgy> phr34ck : so you have to use amsn or kopete
[08:20] <k010> nikin, just boot up the livecd
[08:20] <nikin> ko10 the live CD fails to
[08:21] <Music_Shuffle> 'Reinstall Windows' is the worst solution ever to any *Nix issue. Ever.
[08:21] <nikin> with the same problem
[08:21] <k010> nikin, when u go thru the install process just skip to grub install
[08:21] <N3rg4r> can someone please link me to a dial-up guide
[08:21] <sleepy5432> shutdown doesn't work, it just spams $ all the way down and my pc is left on
[08:22] <Ferret> phr34ck: OK, MSN clients that support webcam that I can find: aMSN, Kopete, gaim
[08:22] <Ferret> Maybe add MSN in wine to that list too, I dunno about that
[08:22] <nikin> Music_Shuffle: i know, i know.. but what else can i do if i want to use this system today?
[08:23] <Music_Shuffle> I missed your issue, but I bet there's a solution that doesn't involve going back to Windows. :)
[08:23] <Ferret> In fact, the gaim fork for webcam (gaim-vv) only actually does viewing
[08:23] <MrGeek> hm..
[08:23] <MrGeek> hello all
[08:23] <nikin> Music Shuffle:
[08:23] <nikin> i have a system, and i cant boot up linux ( intel 845G based ASrock, with a 2,8Ghz Celeron), (the setup from the alternate CD went allright....) i turned off acpi, apic and lapic but it still freezes. any ideas?
[08:23] <nikin> error message is : "Kernel Panic: not syncing: Atempted to kill init!", the EIP is clear_local_APIC
[08:23] <nikin> it hepens at "Starting Kernel Event Manager...."
[08:24] <maddash> can I remove mdadm the ubuntu-standard package without brick-ing my system?
[08:25] <ikonia> depends if your using mdadm
[08:25] <warkruid> Ferret: Problem was in gnome-terminal startup. needed extra argument "login"
[08:25] <ootput> hi guys, how do i restore the default edgy gnome session? I've tinkered with using openbox in the past, but now, when i choose gnome as my session type, nothing happens
[08:26] <Ferret> warkruid: Excellent. :)
[08:26] <stefg> ootput: already tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm ?
[08:26] <phr34ck> Hey I installed java JDK 1.4, and then installed JDK 1.5 "I thought that it will replace the old version" but it never did. What should I do to remove the 1.4 ?
[08:26] <maddash> ikonia: I'm on a laptop. I'm definitely not using mdadm
[08:26] <Flannel> phr34ck: how did you install the old version?
[08:26] <ikonia> then you can remove it
[08:26] <N3rg4r> can someone please link me to a dial-up guide or wiki
[08:26] <k010> nikin, u tryd booting into recovery mode
[08:26] <phr34ck> Flannel, I downloaded it manually ...
[08:26] <stefg> !modem | N3rg4r
[08:26] <phr34ck> I then knew that I could use "apt-get"
[08:26] <Flannel> phr34ck: right, but downloaded what? a deb? a bin?
[08:26] <nikin> k010 yep... the same
[08:26] <ubotu> N3rg4r: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[08:26] <ikonia> N3rg4r: https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:27] <Ferret> maddash: It's part of te base system.  It runs whether you like it or not, unless you've told it not to
[08:27] <phr34ck> Flannel, I think deb ... I can't remember. Is there a way to find out ?
[08:27] <N3rg4r> thanx stef!
[08:27] <maddash> Ferret: on synaptic, it's Ubuntu-standard that depends on it, not ubuntu-minimal
[08:27] <Ferret> maddash: As for your question... If the init script isn't running, I doubt it's being used, so removing it shouldn't kill anything
[08:27] <N3rg4r> thanx ikonia
[08:27] <Flannel> phr34ck: dpkg -l  will list all the packages you have installed.  um, depending on what the package name was: dpkg -l | grep jre or mayvbe dpkg -l | grep java
[08:28] <maddash> Ferret: ok...just worried about killing off ubuntu-standard
[08:28] <Flannel> maddash: it's just a metapackage
[08:28] <Heavenquake> where can I find a detailed overview of drivers included in the kernel?
[08:28] <KenSentMe> Can i use network-manager-gnome for connecting to a wireless network that uses peap and mchap?
[08:28] <Ferret> maddash: Well, if you've already successfully removed it from the init process, then what's the worst that can happen? ;p  You'll have to reinstall it if it's needed
[08:28] <jonty_rocks3> hi
[08:28] <jonty_rocks3> i need a suggestion
[08:28] <Ferret> maddash: I've successfully stopped mdadm running here on boot and nothing appeared to break o.o
[08:28] <ikonia> with what
[08:28] <ikonia> just ask
[08:29] <maddash> Ferret: mille de grazie
[08:29] <phr34ck> It only shows the 1.5 version ....
[08:29] <phr34ck> so I can delete the 1.4 folder ?
[08:29] <jonty_rocks3> I have a laptop (toshiba satellite 4090CDS) 400mhz and 64mb RAM. Which Ubuntu will fit on it?
[08:29] <maddash> Ferret: many thanks
[08:29] <stefg> jonty_rocks3: fluxbubntu
[08:29] <ikonia> well, you've not told us how bit the disk is - so how do I know
[08:29] <linuxnewbie756> anyone know of any free ubuntu stragedy games that are actually worth playing?
[08:29] <jonty_rocks3> is that official ubuntu?
[08:29] <stefg> !fluxbuntu | jonty_rocks3
[08:29] <ubotu> jonty_rocks3: fluxbuntu is a LPAE-standard compliant, Ubuntu-based derivative that maintains the goal of running on a wide range of mobile devices and computers (low-end & high-end). It is lightweight, swift and efficient. | Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/
[08:30] <roflarn> linuxnewbie756: openttd!
[08:30] <Flannel> phr34ck: if you installed it from a bin, then it's been strewn all around your system (to where everything is supposed to go), it's exactly like installing from source.  If it's a deb, then you can remove it cleanly with normal package management
[08:30] <jonty_rocks3> ok thnx
[08:30] <Heavenquake> Did you guys see my question, or did it drown? :o) (Sorry for the impatience)
[08:30] <ikonia> I didn't see it
[08:30] <phr34ck> Flannel, thanks man.
 where can I find a detailed overview of drivers included in the kernel?
[08:30] <phr34ck> I'm having problems in download/installing/uninstalling these stuff. I still didn't get the hang of it
[08:30] <ikonia> in the kernel readme/docs
[08:30] <stefg> jonty_rocks3: xubuntu might run, but forget openoffice anyway, and at do yourself a favor and don't fill your ram with clutter
[08:31] <Heavenquake> ikonia, online?
[08:31] <jonty_rocks3> stefg is it good for beginners?
[08:31] <ikonia> don't think there is a kernel source docs on line
[08:31] <Flannel> jonty_rocks3: install a GUI-less ubuntu, then add whatever WM you want (or stick with a gui-less).  Although, unless you're hell bent on using ubuntu, there are better distros out there, specifically for old hardware (De
[08:31] <linuxnewbie756> i was thinking more of the "war" type stragety games
[08:31] <cerridwen> /usr/src/ . . .
[08:31] <Flannel> jonty_rocks3: (DeliLinux is one, there are others)
[08:31] <ikonia> linuxnewbie756: no - the games all suck
[08:31] <linuxnewbie756> i know...
[08:32] <stefg> jonty_rocks3: yes, if they want to lear linux 'the good'ol fashioned way' ... :-)
[08:32] <Ralth> Hello!  I'm having trouble with my screen resolution.  Everything seems to be right, but I can't set it higher than 1024x768 in the system settings.  Any ideas?
[08:32] <xaaax> I'm trying to install via netboot. I downloaded netboot.tar.gz. What do I do with this file? decompress and create iso or just create iso with that file inside?
[08:32] <jonty_rocks3> is it GUI?
[08:32] <ikonia> Ralth: what version of ubuntu, what video card, what monitor
[08:32] <ikonia> xaaax: read up on netbooting
[08:32] <linuxnewbie756> alright, any other good games that aren't stratgety based?
[08:32] <ikonia> its clear you've read nothing
[08:32] <jonty_rocks3> stefg is it GUI?
[08:32] <Ferret> linuxnewbie756: freecnc?
[08:32] <ikonia> read up - then ask a specific question
[08:32] <Flannel> xaaax: why are you installing via netboot?  no CDrom drive? or just don't want to download a huge iso?
[08:32] <jonty_rocks3> i dont like command line too much
[08:32] <nikin> i have a system, and i cant boot up linux ( intel 845G based ASrock, with a 2,8Ghz Celeron), (the setup from the alternate CD went allright....) i turned off acpi, apic and lapic but it still freezes. any ideas?
[08:33] <xaaax> ikonia: actually i'm on that page, it just lacks information in my specific situation
[08:33] <stefg> jonty_rocks3: why not click the link ubotu spit out?
[08:33] <nikin> error message is : "Kernel Panic: not syncing: Atempted to kill init!", the EIP is clear_local_APIC
[08:33] <Ferret> linuxnewbie756: freecraft? http://www.math.sfu.ca/~cbm/cd/
[08:33] <nikin> it hepens at "Starting Kernel Event Manager...."
[08:33] <Ralth> ikonia: kubuntu, Intel 915, dell 15.1 inch flatscreen (It's an inspiron 1300)
[08:33] <ikonia> well consideing you don't know what to do with the gzipped file - you've not read anything
[08:33] <ikonia> Ralth: kubuntu - which version
[08:33] <ikonia> 6.0.6 ?
[08:33] <Ralth> ikonia: I believe it is 6.0.10
[08:34] <phr34ck> Automatix is not available in the repo. ?
[08:34] <xaaax> Sorry, this is not netboot. I'm trying to do a minimal cd instalation
[08:34] <mortal> How do I shut down the computer (halt) from a terminal without requiring root access like halt does?
[08:34] <Flannel> phr34ck: automatix is not safe, and definately not official.
[08:34] <ikonia> Ralth: there are tons of problems with the i810 driver in xorg 7.1.1
[08:34] <Flannel> xaaax: Download the mini.iso, then burn it to a CD, and boot.
[08:34] <phr34ck> Flannel, how so?
[08:34] <ikonia> you've really got to try to configure xorg manually
[08:34] <Heavenquake> phr34ck, no. www.getautomatix.com will tell you everything.
[08:34] <ikonia> or use the modesetting driver
[08:34] <Heavenquake> phr34ck, but beware
[08:34] <nikin> mortal give right to the user to halt :D
[08:34] <Ralth> ikonia: What is the modesetting driver?
[08:35] <Flannel> phr34ck: when it breaks, it does so beyond repair
[08:35] <mortal> nikin, how do I do that?
[08:35] <phr34ck> umm, I see.
[08:35] <Flannel> !automatix | phr34ck
[08:35] <ubotu> phr34ck: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:35] <linuxnewbie756> ferret, where can i get the original red alert game?
[08:35] <ikonia> Ralth: a new dev driver - a bit early to use
[08:35] <linuxnewbie756> says i need the orignal files...
[08:35] <phr34ck> I liked the name while I was searching for a C++ IDE.
[08:35] <jonty_rocks3> stefg will the fluxbuntu-nbuild1-rev2-desktop-i386.iso be OK?
[08:35] <Heavenquake> phr34ck, it rarely breaks, but when it happens, you're done for. The only bad thing I experienced was that I was not able to upgrade properly from Dapper to Edgy.
[08:35] <Gosha> i have an external HD that uses NTFS .. and i can read perfectly fine from it .. but writing to it doesn't work .. is this because it's NTFS or because i'm not root or something?
[08:36] <stefg> jonty_rocks3: i don't *know* (because i never used it) but from the nomenclature used in ubuntu it's right
[08:36] <Ferret> linuxnewbie756: Ahh, yeah.  Buy it at a shop.  It's probably about $5
[08:36] <IntuitiveNipple> Gosha: the standard ntfs driver doesn't support writing, even though it reports the drive as rw
[08:36] <Ralth> ikonia:  I'm pretty sure I have xorg configed the right way ... and I've tried 915resolution ... nothing seems to be working.
[08:36] <jonty_rocks3> ok tyvm stefg =))))
[08:36] <nikin> mortal in the /etc/sudoers file.... see 'man sudoers'
[08:36] <IntuitiveNipple> there's an enhanced driver around that does - ntfs-3g
[08:36] <mortal> okay, thanks nikin
[08:36] <linuxnewbie756> do you have it? could you mirror the files or something? its porobably 700mb, but is it somehow possible for you to send them to me/
[08:37] <sleepy5432> is automatix known to break turn off or reboot butttons?
[08:37] <stefg> !easyubuntu
[08:37] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[08:37] <ikonia> Ralth: I've got similar problems with a 915. First try the intel driver, then hang on for a while. I'm working on a driver fix for the 810 driver and the modesetting driver that I'm trying to push upstream
[08:37] <Ferret> linuxnewbie756: Yea sure I have like a car and a PS3 and a fish tank you could have too
[08:37] <linuxnewbie756> REALLY! lol, guess i'll look at it at a used cd store
[08:38] <Ralth> ikonia: how do I install the intel driver?
[08:39] <ikonia> do a dpkg-reconfigure and select the intel driver
[08:39] <nikin> i have tryed to run two other live CDs now... Ubuntu 6.06 and Puppy Linux... both stopped by agpgart with error (no prelocated videomemory detected) and(AGP aparature size is 128M @ 0xd0000000) /my videocard is 64M/
[08:39] <Gosha> so i can write to ntfs if i get a new ntfs driver?
[08:39] <IntuitiveNipple> Gosha: yes
[08:39] <stefg> nikin: agp aperture and amount of vram are different things
[08:40] <Ralth> ikonia:  I'm new to linux ... you're saying to run "dpkg-reconfigure" from root?
[08:40] <nikin> stefg: what is the dif?
[08:40] <blanky> hey guys what's up, i'm open for questions
[08:40] <ikonia> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:40] <TyRiOn-MX> can anyone help me pls :P
[08:40] <TyRiOn-MX> http://rafb.net/p/p8m5fC35.html
[08:40] <Ralth> ikonia: thanks, I'll give it a try
[08:40] <blanky> er, back
[08:41] <ikonia> ok
[08:41] <blanky> anyone need any help with anything?
[08:41] <blanky> maybe I can help :)
[08:41] <nikin> blanky:
[08:41] <nikin> i have tryed to run two other live CDs now... Ubuntu 6.06 and Puppy Linux... both stopped by agpgart with error (no prelocated videomemory detected) and(AGP aparature size is 128M @ 0xd0000000) /my videocard is 64M/
[08:41] <nikin> i have a system, and i cant boot up linux ( intel 845G based ASrock, with a 2,8Ghz Celeron), (the setup from the alternate CD went allright....) i turned off acpi, apic and lapic but it still freezes. any ideas?
[08:41] <jcaceres> hello, i enabled madwifi in my ubuntu32, but i am compiling the package in ubuntu for amd and it doesnot work???
[08:42] <SanDayGoDom> hello all
[08:42] <nikin> error message is : "Kernel Panic: not syncing: Atempted to kill init!", the EIP is clear_local_APIC
[08:42] <nikin> it hepens at "Starting Kernel Event Manager...."
[08:42] <jcaceres> kernel version is 2.6.27
[08:42] <blanky> nikin: how much system memory do you have
[08:42] <jcaceres> correcting 2.6.17 uppss
[08:42] <nikin> 512M
[08:42] <blanky> I suggest you lower your aperture size, nikin (To 64)
[08:42] <Gosha> !ntfs
[08:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:42] <blanky> nikin: maybe that will help, though I'm not entirely sure, doesn't hurt to try
[08:42] <nikin> i use an AGP card, not the internal one
[08:43] <blanky> nikin: so...?
[08:43] <SanDayGoDom> Folks is there a way to have ubuntu and Windows on the same HD WITHOUT using lilo
[08:43] <HymnToLife> [20:42]  <jcaceres> kernel version is 2.6.27<= isn't it rather 2.6.17 ?
[08:43] <magical_trevsky> is it safe to remove 'enterprise volume management system' from my dapper system, or is it important?
[08:43] <blanky> nikin: how much memory does your agp card have
[08:43] <SanDayGoDom> I really do not want to change my MBR
[08:43] <nikin> blanky it was set to 64
[08:43] <Gosha> .. so what drives do i need?
[08:43] <nikin> 64M
[08:43] <jcaceres> 4HymnToLife,  yes
[08:43] <blanky> nikin: it was, and why'd you change it? Maybe that's causing problems?
[08:43] <Gosha> !fuse
[08:43] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:43] <jcaceres>  i said it was a mistake
[08:43] <SanDayGoDom> and I might need to erase the linux partition later to make it availible again to windows
[08:43] <Gosha> why is it unsafe?
[08:44] <roflarn> i wouldnt say its unsafe tbh used it for quite some time now
[08:44] <blanky> nikin: either way, I'm not sure if the live cd will use your video card, it might just use your onboard video card since you don't have drivers for the video card
[08:44] <magical_trevsky> Gosha, i've been writing to ntfs with fuse for 6 months without a problem
[08:44] <blanky> or even yet...
[08:44] <blanky> no wait that shouldn't matter
[08:44] <stefg> magical_trevsky: as long as your disks are not using evms or lvm2 its safe to remove
[08:44] <nikin> blanky: the problem was there all the time... i just tryed to set 128 coz Linux said its 128
[08:44] <luca> iv just installed my ubuntu... but.... where is the grub.conf file?
[08:44] <magical_trevsky> stefg, how do I know if they are using it?
[08:44] <Flannel> luca: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:44] <roflarn> luca: /boot/grub/
[08:44] <HymnToLife> luca, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:44] <stefg> magical_trevsky: sud fdisk -l
[08:44] <stefg> magical_trevsky: sudo fdisk -l
[08:44] <mwe> I'm trying to compile something and get 'Can't find X includes.'. What do I need to install? I tried libx11-dev and xserver-xorg-dev without luck :|
[08:44] <luca> okokok
[08:44] <luca> thanks a lot
[08:44] <nikin> i set it back then
[08:44] <Heavenquake> Which laptop brands, apart from Lenovo, is known for good Linux-support and working this-and-that out of the box in Ubuntu?
[08:44] <Gosha> kay, then it shouldn't be a problem i guess
[08:45] <_aibot_> dell
[08:45] <HymnToLife> Heavenquake, HP stuff usuallt has great Linux compatibility
[08:45] <Shaba1> hello fold
[08:45] <_aibot_> k010: find anything usefull?
[08:45] <stefg> Heavenquake: all the Compaq/HP stuff
[08:45] <Gosha> what's the worst that can happen?
[08:45] <Shaba1> hello folks
[08:45] <svish> my hp compaq works fine :)
[08:45] <mortal> nikin, is there really a flag I can set in sudoers to allow a user to halt without having to enter their password?
[08:45] <Shaba1> Folks is there a way to have ubuntu and Windows on the same HD WITHOUT using lilo
[08:45] <HymnToLife> I'm perfectly happy with the Asus I have currently, too
[08:45] <Shaba1> and I might need to erase the linux partition later to make it availible again to windows
[08:45] <mwe> I'm trying to compile something and get: Can't find X includes. What do I need to install? I tried libx11-dev and xserver-xorg-dev without luck.
[08:45] <Heavenquake> ok, thank you :o)
[08:45] <k010> _aibot_, no jus doing some googling
[08:45] <blanky> nikin: and you say this has happened on all the live cd's you've tried?
[08:45] <nikin> mortal: no flag, but yes there is
[08:46] <k010> with beryl running it even harder
[08:46] <nikin> blanky: yep
[08:46] <mortal> nikin, okay, I'll keep on lookin'
[08:46] <nikin> ty
[08:46] <k010> coz with beryl running none of my shortcut works
[08:46] <_aibot_> k010: What do you mean ?
[08:47] <k010> _aibot_, u know u can define ur shortcuts within "keyboard shortcuts"
[08:47] <_aibot_> Yeah
[08:47] <FredDC> hi guys
[08:47] <k010> well wen im using just the metacity manager the shortcut works but with xgl they dont
[08:48] <k010> not sure why
[08:48] <k010> i mean with the beryl manager
[08:48] <_aibot_> k010: Maybe some key bindings in xgl are overriding your shortcuts ?
[08:48] <FredDC> i just made my new years resolution come through, throw out window and install linux once and for all. It was about time...
[08:49] <k010> cud be the case
[08:49] <nikin> mortal: here is a sample file to look at: http://www.gratisoft.us/sudo/sample.sudoers
[08:49] <nn531> anyone know why my pages load so slow now that Im using linux? my dl's are the same but my load time is terrible
[08:49] <k010> but how do i check it out
[08:49] <sleepy5432> Can someone help me, my Turn off computer button and reboot button don't work, they leave me with a blank screen and I have to manually shut down computer
[08:49] <mortal> thanks nikin
[08:49] <xmOD> wats the command to delete a directory?
[08:49] <xmOD> lol
[08:49] <Gosha> "bash:~$ sudo modprobe fuse" <-- why does it say "bash:~" ? should i do it in a special way
[08:49] <Gosha> ?
[08:49] <georgy> xmOD, : rm -R directory
[08:50] <_aibot_> k010: Open the beryl manager and just go though and check if any of the plugins are using keys you set.
[08:50] <xmOD> i wanna delete the directory /media/windows
[08:50] <ikonia> thats normally a mount point
[08:50] <k010> boy that gona take time
[08:50] <beuno> xmOD: rm /media/windows -R
[08:50] <xmOD> sudo rm -R /media/windows?
[08:50] <beuno> yeap
[08:50] <beuno> sudo helps
[08:50] <beuno> xmOD: also, make sure it's no mounted or it won't delete
[08:50] <mortal> xmOD, you could also just umount it
[08:51] <Dramenia> hello
[08:51] <xmOD> how?
[08:51] <Shaba1> Ok no help here??
[08:51] <mortal> $ umount /media/windows
[08:51] <beuno> xmOD: sudo umount /media/windows
[08:51] <mortal> Shaba1, what about grub?
[08:51] <Dramenia> how can i instal the drivers for nvidia?
[08:51] <xmOD>  sudo unmount /media/windows
[08:51] <xmOD> that din work
[08:51] <Heavenquake> xmOD, umount not unmount
[08:51] <IntuitiveNipple> umount, not unmount
[08:52] <FredDC> I'm a C/C++ developer, can anyone point me to a list of development environments for linux? so i can see which one I'd like to have a look at?
[08:52] <xmOD> oh sorry
[08:52] <mortal> ubotu tell Dramenia about nvidia
[08:52] <Shaba1> I have no idea what or who grub is.
[08:52] <Shaba1> I am a windows admin
[08:52] <IntuitiveNipple> FredC - how about Eclipse IDE for C/C++ ?
[08:52] <mortal> Shaba1, it's the default bootloader that comes with Ubuntu
[08:52] <IntuitiveNipple> Grub is the boot loader
[08:52] <Shaba1> I just started investigating linux/ubuntu lat wek
[08:52] <mnoir> !grub
[08:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:53] <blanky> FredDC: what's the problem?
[08:53] <FredDC> intnipple: i've never programmed under linux before, so i wouldn't know which one i'd like, but i'll install that one and have a look
[08:53] <mortal> Shabal, if you install Ubuntu on a partition on the same harddrive as Windows, grub will most likely find Windows and add it to the boot menu when it installs
[08:53] <blanky> FredDC: ah, a list of IDEs?
[08:53] <blanky> FredDC: I can help you, I've been through that road
[08:53] <FredDC> blanky: great!
[08:53] <blanky> FredDC: Let me find you a nice list of them, and then I'll give you my take on them
[08:54] <mortal> blanky, keep it in here, I'll like to listen too
[08:54] <FredDC> blanky: much appreciated!
[08:54] <blanky> mortal: sure
[08:54] <mortal> :)
[08:54] <blanky> FredDC: Here ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6762) is a list of what ubuntu users like
[08:54] <robdeman> hi gang... under Windows I was using FileMon to monitor whatever the filesystem was doing. Is there such a thing for Linux/Ubuntu? My php script complains it cannot find a certain Class... but the file is there and the owner/file rights are set to 0777
[08:54] <robdeman> the /var/logs/apacje2/error.log does not show anything
[08:54] <stefg> !lsof
[08:54] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:55] <blanky> FredDC: you say you're using C/C++ right? Well, there's Eclipse ( www.eclipse.org ) with the CDT plugin ( http://www.eclipse.org/cdt/downloads.php )
[08:55] <ikonia> Hmmm quadrata's been on quataum
[08:55] <stefg> ????
[08:55] <_aibot_> robdeman: whats the exact error ?
[08:55] <ikonia> oops
[08:55] <robdeman> _aibot_ Fatal error: Class 'Favorite' not found in /home/outloud/www/outloud2/app_controller.php on line 217
[08:55] <FredDC> blanky : c/c++ yes. i'll have a look at eclipse
[08:55] <blanky> FredDC: there's also Anjuta ( http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/ ), as well as KDevelop ( http://www.kdevelop.org/ )
[08:55] <blanky> blanky: make sure you do 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' first
[08:55] <blanky> er, what the heck
[08:55] <blanky> that was directed to FredDC
[08:56] <_aibot_> robdeman: whats on that line ?
[08:56] <robdeman> _aibot_ but the file /models/favoriate.php exists...
[08:56] <blanky> FredDC: that will give you the necessary build tools such as gcc (the compiler suite), make, and other stuff
[08:56] <robdeman> _aibot_ line #217 $Favorite = new favorite;
[08:56] <_aibot_> Your trying to call 'Favorite' but your class is called favorite.
[08:56] <_aibot_> ?
[08:57] <_aibot_> I cant tell unless I see the files. Upload them to pastebin.
[08:57] <robdeman> _aibot_ it did read $Favorite = new Favorite;
[08:57] <blanky> FredDC: I personally never have tried Eclipse with CDT in a real world environment, it seemed alright, but the IDE was difficult for me to master, not to mention it wasn't really built for C/C++ programming
[08:57] <Tajmox> If I want to use this computer as the internet source for a router, do I use NAT or ipmasq ?
[08:57] <robdeman> _aibot_ thanks for the help I need to go outsude :)
[08:57] <_aibot_> Ok :)
[08:57] <blanky> FredDC: I only tried Anjuta for a while, and I don't really remember. My friend uses it and he seems to like it a lot
[08:58] <blanky> FredDC: I have tried KDevelop a lot, and I really like it. But it's all personal preference
[08:58] <FredDC> blanky: it's a matter of personal taste mostly but at least now i have some names of apps to check out
[08:58] <blanky> FredDC: not to mention there's a lot more, but those are the most popular as far as I know
[08:59] <blanky> FredDC: I usually see myself just using something simple as Gedit ( GNOME Text Editor ) or Kate ( KDE Advanced Text Editor ) with terminal gcc/make
[08:59] <nikin> blanky i changed to the internal VGA and it seems to work now
[08:59] <red_> anyone know how to change the amarok splash screen?
[08:59] <blanky> FredDC: so I suggest you at least get somewhat acquainted with the gcc tools, as well as any other you might be using (make)
[08:59] <eyalw> hi, u know a simple but extesive tutorial for assembly?
[08:59] <blanky> nikin: :P
[08:59] <blanky> red_: to a different image?
[08:59] <blanky> red_: /join #amarok
[08:59] <red_> blanky yes a have the image
[09:00] <blanky> red_: I guess it should be as easy as locating the image and replacing it
[09:00] <nikin> blanky: X server isnt working but the system starts
[09:00] <FredDC> blanky: i was planning on getting to know gcc as well, but i was wondering about an editor
[09:00] <blanky> nikin: hmm, let me think
[09:00] <nikin> blanky: i try now to get x server with the internal VGA
[09:00] <blanky> FredDC: most IDE's are just that, IDE's, they all typically use gcc
[09:01] <blanky> FredDC: gcc is pretty extensive and complicated, I'm not saying learn it all, just enough to survive if you want to do your own little things/edits
[09:01] <nikin> blanky: ok i got Xserver or internal VGA
[09:01] <blanky> nikin: sorry? 'or' ?
[09:02] <nikin> now the problem is that i need my AGP card :)
[09:02] <blanky> hmm...I'm thinking
[09:02] <blanky> nikin: what's your card brand/model ?
[09:02] <christopher> I just installed ubuntu server, but when I ran sudo apt-get install postgresql, it said that it was not available, is this normal?
[09:02] <nikin> Nvidia Geforce 4 MX 440
[09:02] <nn531> anyone ever use airsnort?
[09:03] <Gosha> why can i not change the permissions for /media/sda1 ( where i mounted my exHDDthat is NTFS )
[09:03] <christopher> nn531, yeah I did
[09:03] <TuxCrafter> christopher: dit you enable all the repost
[09:03] <sleepy5432> my Turn off Computer button and reboot button don't work, only thing that works is alt+sysrq+b, it worked fine before, what can I do to solve this
[09:03] <TuxCrafter> christoper /etc/apt-get/sources.list or something like that
[09:03] <nikin> index.hu
[09:03] <enyc> Gosha: regardless of mount permissions... NTFS is not writable driver basically
[09:04] <nikin> sry.. wrong keyb :)
[09:04] <christopher> TuxCrafter, what do you mean, "all the respos"?
[09:04] <christopher> TuxCrafter, oooohhh, right
[09:04] <stefg> !fuse
[09:04] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:04] <christopher> TuxCrafter, yeah of course, thanks.
[09:04] <nn531> christopher: did you have any problesm with it becasue I cant seem to get it to display anything when i hit start
[09:04] <enyc> Gosha: erm... the linux kernel implementation of ntfs cannot writo to ntfs except simple safe operations changing contents of file woithout changing size...  I undorstand that with NTFS-3G you can write to NTFS fairly well...
[09:05] <frogzoo_> !ntfs | Gosha
[09:05] <ubotu> Gosha: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:05] <enyc> Gosha: the real problem being that ntfs in proprietary
[09:05] <fuoco> does ubuntu support bluetooth out of the box?
[09:05] <christopher> nn531, naw was a while ago, but I had no problems. did you run it off a terminal?
[09:05] <nn531> tried
[09:05] <Tajmox> If I want to use this computer as the internet source for a router, do I use NAT or ipmasq ?
[09:05] <Gosha> !ntfs-3g
[09:05] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:06] <blanky> Hey guys how do I use debhelper, I mean, I have it installed apparently, I did 'debhelper' and it says commadn not found
[09:06] <nn531> christopher: I tried and I get an error
[09:06] <nikin> nvidia.com
[09:06] <stefg> enyc: deb http://ntfs-3g.sitesweetsite.info/ubuntu dapper main main-all
[09:06] <nikin> again wrong keyb.... argh
[09:06] <Shaba1> Hello can somone give me that second grub link again
[09:06] <christopher> nn531, what was it?
[09:06] <stefg> !grub
[09:06] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:07] <Shaba1> the one about reclaming the space for windows
[09:07] <nn531> christopher: /sbin/wlanctl-ng eth1 lnxreq_wlansniff enable=true channel=9 keepwepflags=false prismheader=false > /dev/null
[09:07] <nn531> sh: /sbin/wlanctl-ng: not found
[09:07] <g333k_work> Hi, is there any *.doc files reader? (just reader, not editor)
[09:07] <Gosha> seems troublesome :P
[09:07] <nn531> christopher: I am very new to ubuntu by the way
[09:07] <stefg> !antiword
[09:07] <ubotu> antiword: Converts MS Word files to text and ps. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.37-1 (edgy), package size 141 kB, installed size 752 kB
[09:07] <christopher> nn531, look in sbin, see what there actually is in there.
[09:07] <KenSentMe> Where does NetworkManager save it's settings?
[09:08] <nikin> !nvidia
[09:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:08] <Tajmox> blanky man debhelper
[09:08] <nn531> christopher: nothin.. well not nothin but not that file
[09:08] <g333k_work> stefg, most of my users use just doc files
[09:08] <blanky> Tajmox: thanks
[09:08] <Tajmox> blanky, no prob.     man any command =)
[09:09] <christopher> nn531, see if you can see something else in there that would correspond to what you are looking for
[09:09] <stefg> g333k_work: so pipe them through antiword to your preferred ps-viewer
[09:09] <svish> I have written an ultra simple c++ app with a main.cpp, Cube.h and Cube.cpp.. how do I compile this? g++ -o TestApp main.cpp doesnt seem to work..
[09:09] <Shaba1> thamlks
[09:09] <christopher> nn531, or just try a bunch
[09:09] <nn531> hmm I need wlanctl-ng
[09:09] <blanky> svish: what happens?
[09:09] <nn531> I cant search
[09:09] <blanky> svish: it says gcc: command not found ?
[09:10] <blanky> svish: If so, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:10] <Tajmox> apt-get install build-essential
[09:10] <Tajmox> =] 
[09:10] <blanky> beat you to it
[09:10] <blanky> :P
[09:10] <svish> blanky: I get an error about undefined reference to Cube::Cube()
[09:10] <blanky> svish: oh, nevermind haha
[09:10] <bieb> stefg... still fighting with the modem here... I can connect, but no webpages.. in the howto it says: If you connect successfully but your Internet applications do not function (eg. web pages do not load in Firefox), you might need to add replacedefaultroute as a new line in the pppd option file.   what goes after replacedefaultroute?
[09:10] <svish> blanky: among others.. hehe
[09:10] <blanky> svish: maybe it's a code problem?
[09:10] <blanky> svish: ohh, here
[09:11] <blanky> g++ -o TestApp main.cpp cube.cpp
[09:11] <christopher> nn531, ohhh, are you sure you installed it right?
[09:11] <Tajmox> svish you might be missinng a dependency
[09:11] <blanky> er, capitalized letters of course
[09:11] <svish> blanky: its the example from http://www.functionx.com/cpp/examples/simpleclass.htm
[09:11] <nn531> I installed it from the synaptic thing
[09:11] <surreal> part
[09:11] <christopher> nn531, you shouldn't have to type /sbin/ before
[09:11] <dragon> bieb: nothing goes after replace defaultroute
[09:11] <blanky> svish: try what I said
[09:11] <christopher> nn531, at least i didn't
[09:11] <bieb> ok.. so just add that line to /etc/ppp/options?
[09:11] <stefg> bieb: I can't really answer that, but my first check would be if the DNS is set correctly? /etc/resolv.conf has a tendency to get overwritten in ubuntu :-\
[09:12] <martin__> ubuntu-fr
[09:12] <martin__> #ubuntu-fr
[09:12] <nn531> christopher: my bad, I searched for wlanctl-ng and I didnt find anything
[09:12] <n2diy> ! fr
[09:12] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:12] <svish> ah
[09:12] <roflarn> ! no
[09:12] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[09:12] <christopher> nn531, if you're installing from source, remember to use make install.
[09:12] <trinitrogen> does anybody have any experience with hellanzb?
[09:12] <martin__> #ubuntu-fr-testing
[09:12] <dragon> martin__: /join #ubuntu-fr
[09:12] <nn531> gaaa
[09:12] <nn531> christopher
[09:12] <christopher> nn531, or you computer will never find it
[09:13] <svish> blanky: thanks, that worked. so in other words when compiling from terminal I have to compile all cpp manually sort of?
[09:13] <nn531> christopher: k, so what should I do?
[09:13] <bieb> Dragon....ok.. so just add that line to /etc/ppp/options?
[09:13] <trinitrogen> or perhaps suggest a good nzb downloader
[09:13] <nn531> christopher: reinstall it?
[09:13] <blanky> svish: or use make (or automake/autoconf)
[09:13] <christopher> nn531, download the source, unpack, read the readme and the install file, type ./configure, then make then make install. (I'm not sure about the configure)
[09:13] <svish> blanky: im used to pressing F-key in visual studio, so this is kind of new, hehe :p
[09:13] <dragon> bieb: well that is the option file :)
[09:14] <nn531> k
[09:14] <blanky> svish: yeah I love visual studio as well haha
[09:14] <blanky> svish: there's IDEs you can use; Eclipse with CDT, KDevelop, Anjuta
[09:14] <blanky> make programming easier (typically using automake/autoconf)
[09:14] <blanky> they still use gcc typically
[09:14] <svish> blanky: is there ANYTHING that even comes close to vs in linux?
[09:14] <bieb> Dragon.. I knew it was the option file, just didnt know if there were any other things I would have to add with the replacedefaultroute
[09:14] <blanky> svish: nope, haha
[09:14] <blanky> svish: maybe you'll like kdevelop though
[09:15] <svish> blanky: im reeeaaally missing IntelliSense lol
[09:15] <blanky> same here
[09:15] <christopher> svish, i know EXACTLY how you feel, when I program in linux and encounter a hard problem i debug on windows lol
[09:15] <svish> lol
[09:15] <dimitri_> where is the history file or log for the gnome terminal?
[09:15] <blanky> svish: trust me it makes you a better programmer though, without it, but most already have somewhat of intellisense
[09:15] <svish> how do that work?
[09:15] <kitche> svish: yes all over but then again visual studio is mroe for .net anyways anymore
[09:15] <blanky> svish: some/most already have intellisense
[09:15] <blanky> svish: try kdevelop
[09:15] <svish> ok
[09:15] <svish> apt-get install kdevelop?
[09:15] <blanky> svish: there is one though, that's almost identical to visual studio in some terms
[09:16] <christopher> svish, use netbeans, I've tried them all, at netbeans is the closest thing to vs.net
[09:16] <blanky> svish: but it's for mono/.net programming (C# for example), MonoDevelop
[09:16] <blanky> svish: true
[09:16] <svish> isnt netbeans c++?
[09:16] <blanky> svish: +sudo
[09:16] <xmOD> which player can i use in ubuntu to play mp3 audio files and MP4 video files?
[09:16] <blanky> svish: I'm not sure, I thought it was for java
[09:16] <stefg> !vlc
[09:16] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:16] <christopher> svish, yeah it is, i thought that's what you wanted, sorry
[09:16] <nn531> christopher: /sbin/wlanctl-ng:
[09:16] <blanky> !mp3 | xmOD
[09:16] <ubotu> xmOD: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:16] <stefg> !info vlc
[09:16] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[09:16] <Gosha> !fps
[09:16] <ubotu> To display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal.
[09:16] <nn531> christopher: whoops.. i meant "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:16] <nn531> "
[09:17] <vleon> how do i close xorg?
[09:17] <svish> christopher: sorry, java is no problem. the incredibly messy c++ is my problem :S
[09:17] <kitche> vleon: to the command line?
[09:17] <christopher> svish, netbeans has a C++ module
[09:17] <vleon> well yes i want to install nvidia drivers
[09:17] <kitche> vleon: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:17] <vleon> thanx
[09:17] <svish> christopher: cool.. is it hard to install?
[09:17] <stefg> !nvidia | vleon
[09:17] <ubotu> vleon: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:17] <Gosha> 2222 fps :D
[09:17] <christopher> svish, no, they have binaries
[09:18] <Gosha> .. why does it get higher when i dont have the focus on the glxgears window?
[09:18] <christopher> svish, just like windows installers :P
[09:18] <vleon> and in xfce? :)
[09:18] <christopher> nn531, sorry I'm out of time
[09:18] <kitche> vleon: you have to stop gdm in a terminal
[09:18] <Draiden> anyone has installed the Ubuntu 6.10 AMD64 Server edition?
[09:19] <svish> christopher: but are they safe in linux? tried installing sun java from their site before I new about synaptics and packaged... and wow... messy!!
[09:19] <vleon> yes but how do i do it in xfce, it doesnt use gdm doest it?
[09:19] <nikin> blanky: i am folowing the binaray driver howto... do you know anything i should look out for?
[09:19] <svish> reinstalled linux? yeah I think so...
[09:19] <christopher> nn531, just read, and get used to ubuntu, once you get the hang of linux in gereral airsnort is not hard
[09:19] <nn531> k
[09:19] <kitche> vleon: yes it uses gdm
[09:19] <_bt> hi, i upgraded my kernel last night and now everything is running super fast.
[09:19] <nn531> christopher
[09:19] <nn531> thanks
[09:19] <vleon> ok
[09:19] <blanky> nikin: for nvidia, things are typically easier
[09:19] <_bt> like the RTC is broken or seomthing
[09:19] <kitche> vleon: gdm can be used on kde and anything
[09:19] <_bt> any idea what could cause this?
[09:19] <trinitrogen> How do I open nzbs with pan?
[09:20] <blanky> nikin: And since I'm on ATI, I honestly don't remember, but if you have any problems just let us know
[09:20] <kitche> _bt: what do you mean running fast?
[09:20] <nikin> blanky: then i am lucky on that side.... you think this driver can solve my problem?
[09:20] <christopher> svish, yeah I still dont' understand the install from the java site. I actually used automatix (look it up it's really worth it). but once you have a JRE you should have no problem
[09:20] <christopher> svish, I'm going, see yo later
[09:20] <blanky> nikin: well, if it's a live cd I doubt it
[09:20] <blanky> nikin: but having the driver installed helps either way
[09:20] <_bt> kitche: things that flash , flash faster, if i adjust date and time and watch the seconds count up, its going like 3 seconds advancing in 1 second of real time
[09:21] <svish> christopher: ok, thanks, bye :)
[09:21] <nikin> it isnt.... it is a nice fresh 6.10 install
[09:21] <marcus_> im thinking of installing ubuntu on my pavilion dv5220 for dual processor management and composites any insight as to whether it would be worth it?
[09:21] <Flannel> christopher: please don't recommend automatix here.
[09:21] <_bt> kitche: so when i got back from work my clock said thurs 4 jan 6:10am!
[09:21] <vleon> it writes me that a command is not found :\
[09:21] <kitche> _bt: hmm maybe your bios is running fast
[09:21] <blanky> nikin: I thought you were having live cd problems
[09:21] <kitche> vleon: what command?
[09:21] <vleon> gdm
[09:22] <blanky> installing a driver on an install I doubt would help a live cd problem
[09:22] <_bt> kitche, how would i check?
[09:22] <blanky> as they're not related, but hey doesn't hurt to try
[09:22] <kitche> vleon: it says /etc/init.d/gdm can't be found?
[09:22] <nikin> blanky: nope.. just the same problems on HDD and on Live CD
[09:22] <vleon> yes
[09:22] <nn531> does anyone how I should  go about fixing? "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:22] <nn531> "
[09:22] <vleon> i use xubuntu if it helps
[09:22] <blanky> nikin: ah okay
[09:22] <kitche> vleon: try this sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop or xdm stop
[09:23] <blanky> nikin: in that case, might help :)
[09:23] <vleon> ok
[09:23] <_bt> nn531, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:23] <Flannel> nn531: you need "build-essential"
[09:23] <stefg> !build | nn531
[09:23] <ubotu> nn531: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:23] <blanky> nikin: ouch, wait, so you're reading the wiki through links or something similar? I thought you said you couldn't start xserver
[09:23] <vleon> same results
[09:23] <nn531> _bt: so I type  sudo apt-get install build-essential "then filename?"
[09:23] <vleon> maybe /usr/etc or something?
[09:24] <kitche> _bt type this hwclock --show and see if it matches up to your sys time
[09:24] <_bt> nn531, type that command and press enter. it will prompt for your passowrd then press enter
[09:24] <nn531> _bt aha
[09:24] <_bt> kitche, Thu 04 Jan 2007 06:07:34 GMT  -0.399741 seconds
[09:24] <kitche> _bt: what's your sys time though you can find that out with date
[09:25] <_bt> kitche: Thu Jan  4 06:17:38 GMT 2007
[09:25] <svish> !automatix
[09:25] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:25] <kitche> _bt hmm yeah that looks off :)
[09:25] <mharding> Hello
[09:25] <vleon> !WorksForMe
[09:25] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:25] <svish> !worksforme
[09:25] <_bt> any ideas?
[09:26] <Mathersen> hi @ all
[09:26] <svish> vleon: hehe..
[09:26] <kitche> _bt: you can either set date by hand or use a ntpd server to do it
[09:26] <Karark> in XFCE, my window borders disappeared... wtf>?!
[09:26] <nikin> re
[09:26] <EDinNY> I just connected my generic camera to the usb.  I know that in other machines the os just finds it...ubuntu does not seem to.   There are other reports of this on the interenet, but no course of action...any ideas?
[09:26] <mharding> can someone help me with an error
[09:26] <nikin> sorry i pressed ctrl+alt+bckspc on wrong keyb... argh
[09:27] <stefg> Karark: /j #xubuntu and restart xfwm4
[09:27] <nn531> _bt: wondering if you could help me with one more thing
[09:27] <tmorton> Is there a way to tell apt-get to install the package that provides a filename?
[09:27] <mharding> I am trying to install a dell 1390 wlan driver
[09:27] <Mathersen> doas anybody know if there is a beta iso of feisty?
[09:27] <mharding> mharding@mharding-laptop:~$ sudo echo blacklist bcm43xx >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[09:27] <mharding> bash: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist: Permission denied
[09:27] <stefg> !feisty
[09:27] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[09:27] <_bt> kitche: this is not a problem with the clock being out specifically. the system as running at a really enhanced speed
[09:27] <Flannel> tmorton: you'll have to search, packages.ubuntu.com has a search feature for installed packages (scroll down)
[09:27] <EDinNY> help me connect my camera before I am forced to use a windows machine!
[09:27] <_bt> which is making the clock go out as the first noticable thing
[09:27] <kitche> Mathersen: yes there is an alpha iso no beta though sicne it's not at beta yet
[09:27] <_bt> and typematic is faster
[09:28] <_bt> and everything is just running super speed!
[09:28] <mharding> can someone please help me out
[09:28] <tmorton> Flannel, thanks
[09:28] <_bt> nn531, whats up
[09:28] <kitche> _bt: well the kernel might have realtime in it but not sure what kernel do you have?
[09:28] <tmorton> there's no more automatic way?
[09:28] <EDinNY> mharding, just ask!
[09:28] <AlexC_> Morning all
[09:28] <_bt> Linux rosie 2.6.20-3-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 26 02:36:13 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:28] <mharding> I need helo
[09:28] <Mathersen> @ubotu: Thanks. My mistake :-)
[09:28] <mharding> why am I getting this error
[09:28] <mharding> mharding@mharding-laptop:~$ sudo echo blacklist bcm43xx >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[09:28] <mharding> bash: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist: Permission denied
[09:28] <kitche> EDinNY: what camera and you just using the camera itself intot he computer?
[09:29] <Flannel> tmorton: no, due to the nature of apt-get, you only know what files are provided locally, after installing them
[09:29] <AlexC_> mharding: because you don't have permission, use sudo infrom of the command
[09:29] <nn531> _bt: k the install file I have is telling me to do "./configure" did that after doing the build-essential it worked, then it told me to do "make" and I get "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."
[09:29] <kitche> _bt: hmm that might have realtime built in hard ot say without looking at it's config file
[09:29] <g333k_work> stefg, I do $antiword file.doc | evince, but I see a blank file in evince
[09:29] <stefg> _bt: ermm.... i guess this is an unsupported kernel
[09:29] <AlexC_> mharding: woops, didn't see you are using sudo
[09:29] <vdepizzol> How can I mount partitions in ubuntu edgy? In dapper I go to System > Administration > Disks... but this option isn't on edgy
[09:29] <Music_Shuffle> !chmod
[09:29] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[09:29] <_bt> stefg: its in the repos
[09:29] <Music_Shuffle> That was @whoever had the 'can't write to' deal.
[09:29] <EDinNY> kitch, I plugged my "SVP" camera into the usb port and expected it to find it as a storage device
[09:29] <aoupi> mharding: try sudo -i then do the echo thing then exit
[09:29] <Mathersen> Is there a .deb package for Java 6?
[09:30] <mharding> k
[09:30] <Mathersen> On the official site i didn't found any
[09:30] <stefg> !linux-image-generic
[09:30] <kitche> EDinNY: depends if the camera acts like a storage device some don't
[09:30] <ubotu> linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[09:30] <Kalagaraz> hmm
[09:30] <_bt> nn531, configure must have not successfully completed. what was the last output of that command?
[09:30] <Shaba1> So if I decide to take a linux partition off my hd can the space be recovered by windows without reinstalling windows and formating again
[09:30] <EDinNY> kitche: It found the device and the log says "usb 1-1.3: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices"
[09:30] <nn531> _bt: " Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[09:30] <nn531> "
[09:30] <mharding> worked
[09:30] <mharding> thanks so much
[09:30] <aoupi> no problem
[09:30] <Flannel> mharding: sudo echo blacklist bcm43xx | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.b/blacklist
[09:30] <PoLL> hello does some one know the name the update notifier which pops up in gnome on start ?
[09:30] <EDinNY> kitch, before that it said "scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices"
[09:31] <Kalagaraz> DCC SEND SECURITYOVERRIDE
[09:31] <_bt> nn531, sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[09:31] <EDinNY> kitch, it never assigned it a device name or mounted it
[09:31] <sinisterguy> does anybody happen to have the candido engine package from berlios?
[09:31] <kitche> !ops
[09:31] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:31] <EDinNY> kitch, it works fine in windows with not extra drivers
[09:31] <gnomefreak> kitche: ??
[09:31] <nn531> _bt: couldnt find package
[09:31] <Seveas> kitche, no need to call ops
[09:31] <Seveas> such morons are k-lined automatically
[09:32] <gnomefreak> ah dcc?
[09:32] <nn531> _bt: whoops forgot the v
[09:32] <kitche> I have quits and stuff ignored so forgot lol
[09:32] <Mace68> lo all, how hard is it to install and boot kubuntu from an external usb drive? does the latest version install usb support in initrd?
[09:32] <Music_Shuffle> Demonically PriceChild? :P
[09:32] <bieb> stefg... resolv.conf has the correct nameservers.. but still no luck
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 ah dcc?
[09:32] <PriceChild> Music_Shuffle: the k-line :)
[09:32] <Music_Shuffle> Hehe
[09:32] <mharding> I am using a core 2 duo... do I need a different kernel then the generic one that is installed
[09:32] <PriceChild> Music_Shuffle: just a few lines below
[09:32] <g333k_work> stefg, any clue for me?
[09:33] <[lynx] _> How do I update beryl?
[09:33] <ikonia> [lynx] _: same as every other package
[09:33] <vdepizzol> How can I mount partitions in ubuntu edgy? In dapper I go to System > Administration > Disks... but this option isn't on edgy
[09:33] <mrgreen> how do I install edubuntu?
[09:33] <Music_Shuffle> Heh
[09:33] <mawe> hi all. what is the recommended way to start a server/daemon process on system startup under a non-root uid, if the daemon itself doesn't provide that feature?
[09:33] <adaptr> [lynx] _: which repo do you use for it ?
[09:33] <ikonia> mrgreen: download the cd
[09:33] <AlexC_> mrgreen: sudo aptitude install edubuntu-desktop    I think,
[09:33] <gnomefreak> mrgreen: sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[09:33] <[lynx] _> adaptr : let me check
[09:33] <kitche> EDinNY: does mount say anything for a device that wasn't mounted before
[09:33] <mrgreen> cheers
[09:33] <Mathersen> @mrgreen: like the live cd?
[09:33] <AlexC_> gnomefreak: isn't using aptitude for such a big package better?
[09:34] <mrgreen> no I'm in unbuntu
[09:34] <gnomefreak> AlexC_: sometimes
[09:34] <EDinNY> kitche: not sure what you mean...it mounts my mp3 player with no problem
[09:34] <gnomefreak> AlexC_: it depends on the person really. aptitude installs all recommends and suggested packages that a user may not want
[09:35] <AlexC_> gnomefreak: true, but it's easier to uninstall the whole lot afterwards with aptitude, no?
[09:35] <kitche> EDinNY: if you type mount in a terminal pastebin what you see
[09:35] <gnomefreak> AlexC_: apt now has autoremove so you can remove all depends with the meta package
[09:35] <AlexC_> gnomefreak: ahhh never knew that!
[09:35] <EDinNY>  kitche, I don't know what device to mount
[09:35] <mharding> I need help with the kernel being smp
[09:35] <stefg> g333k_work: no input, except the ususal 'read the documentation'.. i don't know how well antiword handles the newer .doc-formats
[09:35] <ikonia> mharding: what help
[09:35] <ikonia> mharding: are you "matt harding"
[09:35] <EDinNY> kitche: I expect it to install a new device, then mount it
[09:35] <mrgreen> no edubntu-desktop does not work
[09:35] <kitche> EDinNY: should be /dev/sda1 if it didn't automount
[09:36] <mharding> yup
[09:36] <bieb> g33k.. doesnt OpenOffice work?
[09:36] <[lynx] _> adaptr : deb http://beryl-mirror.pricechild.co.uk edgy main
[09:36] <mharding> who are you
[09:36] <kitche> EDinNY: it might have automounted and you didn't know
[09:36] <ebe-1> I dual boot. I need to get some files on my Windows, NTFS partition. CD writing is not an option right now, nor is uploading to the net (the files I need to get are drivers). I just need to write some files to the NTFS volume. Is this possible?
[09:36] <adaptr> [lynx] _: and that does not upgrade ?
[09:36] <gnomefreak> mrgreen: enable universe repo
[09:36] <mrgreen> ta
[09:36] <PriceChild> [lynx] _: pinging me :P
[09:36] <stefg> bieb: i'd have a close look at www.linmodems.org
[09:36] <EDinNY> kitche: it did not automount and there is no /dev/sd*
[09:36] <gnomefreak> [lynx] _: what version of beryl do you have?
[09:36] <[lynx] _> Well, maybe... just, what is the command?
[09:36] <[lynx] _> 0.1.4
[09:36] <[lynx] _> isnt it a newer one?
[09:36] <bieb> thanks stefg
[09:36] <gnomefreak> [lynx] _: thats the latest
[09:36] <IntuitiveNipple> What's Edgy's support for dual-monitors like (Matrox G450 twinhead) from the Desktop Live CD?
[09:36] <adaptr> [lynx] _: no, that's pretty much state of the art
[09:37] <PriceChild> [lynx] _: adaptr please use the main mirror instead of me... it will mean if we pull my mirror down from bandwidth errors you don't lose beryl packages :)
[09:37] <[lynx] _> hmm... too bad. I have some difficulties with the workspaceindicators not changing
[09:37] <adaptr> PriceChild: is that a SVN repo you run ?
[09:37] <ikonia> IntuitiveNipple: poor
[09:37] <PriceChild> [lynx] _: adaptr deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy main
[09:37] <mharding> I have a dual core cpu and want to know if the gerneric kernel is good
[09:37] <PriceChild> adaptr: no, I host official beryl ubuntu packages
[09:37] <ikonia> mharding: matt darcy - don't know where I know you from
[09:37] <PriceChild> mharding: yes
[09:37] <ikonia> mharding: the generic kernel is fine
[09:37] <adaptr> PriceChild: what I thought.... [lynx] _ I use http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn
[09:37] <EDinNY> kitche: when I do "ls /dev/ |grep sd" it returns ptysd and ttysd, I don't think either of them is my camera device
[09:38] <ikonia> adaptr: why are you using svn when you have no idea what your doing ?
[09:38] <mrgreen> gnomefreak: Thanks!
[09:38] <gnomefreak> mrgreen: yw
[09:38] <adaptr> ikonia: how do you know *what* I am doing ? thanks for nothing
[09:38] <nikin> :(:(:(:(
[09:38] <ikonia> adaptr: because your asking how you update it ?
[09:38] <gnomefreak> adaptr: please take beryl issues/questions to #ubuntu-xgl
[09:39] <ebe-1> Can I write to an NTFS volume?
[09:39] <kitche> EDinNY: what is the exact model of your camera?
[09:39] <mharding> anyone know if they fixed the fn and the arrows keys to change the brightness of the screen
[09:39] <apokryphos> ebe-1: no
[09:39] <gnomefreak> ebe-1: not safely
[09:39] <stefg> !ntfs | ebe-1
[09:39] <ubotu> ebe-1: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:39] <adaptr> ikonia: read some context in the future.. it might save us all some time
[09:39] <EDinNY> kitche: SVP Digi-Shot
[09:39] <sri> greetings.
[09:39] <ikonia> adaptr: pardon ?
[09:39] <jannu1> im using winXP and ubuntu wiht ntfs-3g with no promblem
[09:39] <jannu1> with*
[09:39] <ikonia> mharding: fixed in what ?
[09:39] <ebe-1> When you say not safely, what do you mean? I just have some simple files that I need to put on a Windows accessible area of my harddrive.
[09:39] <gnomefreak> jannu1: its not proven to be safe
[09:40] <sri> does anybody know if I can get anything like decss and basically the stuff from seveas for feisty
[09:40] <sri> I know feisty isn't released yet
[09:40] <stefg> ebe-1: get ntfs-3g
[09:40] <sri> but it'st he only thing that works for my core 2 duo setup
[09:40] <gnomefreak> sri: no extras for feisty yet
[09:40] <dIsOrdEr> still not stable..I especially wouldn't use it for manually writing drivers to an NTFS partition
[09:40] <adaptr> gnomefreak, ikonia: *i did not ask for anything*.. I asked [lynx] _specifically what repo HE was using
[09:40] <sri> gnomefreak: okay, thanks.
[09:40] <mharding> I know it worked in 6.06 but not in 6.10
[09:40] <dIsOrdEr> the permissions might not be correct
[09:40] <mharding> why not
[09:40] <gnomefreak> sri: please keep feisty topics in #ubuntu+1
[09:40] <adaptr> it's nice, all these people paying close attention
[09:40] <mharding> is there something that I can do to turn it on
[09:40] <dIsOrdEr> and your windows OS might no longer be stable
[09:40] <ikonia> adaptr: I thought it was you who said "how do I update beryl"
[09:40] <sri> I could not seem to install edgy  on my core 2 set up.. no idea why
[09:40] <ikonia> I apologise
[09:40] <sri> gnomefreak: is that the devs channel?
[09:41] <adaptr> ikonia: and I know it was not.. that's what that screen-thingy in front of you is for...
[09:41] <gnomefreak> sri: no thats the feisty channel
[09:41] <mharding> I have 6.10 installed on a core 2
[09:41] <m12> WGET doesn't seem to allow for wildcards (*), are there any similar downloaders which do?
[09:41] <sri> gnomefreak: ah, thank you.
[09:41] <kitche> EDinNY: hmm can't find anything about that camera at all in Linux
[09:41] <vdepizzol> How can I mount partitions in ubuntu edgy? In dapper I go to System > Administration > Disks... but this option isn't on edgy
[09:41] <EDinNY> m12, I like "lftp"
[09:41] <ikonia> adaptr: there is that much random chatter in this channel - I linked your name to the question. I apologise
[09:41] <sri> anyways, sorry for the non-edgy spam.
[09:41] <kitche> m12: sure it does
[09:41] <adaptr> ikonia: no problem, I'm over it :)
[09:41] <adaptr> ikonia: agree about the noise, though
[09:42] <EDinNY> kitche: it seems that other people have problems with cameras on edgdy
[09:42] <mharding> how can I check to see if I have my video drivers intalled
[09:42] <m12> kitche:  not for me.  it tries to download a file with a * character in it.  downloads a non-existant 0kb file.
[09:42] <ebe-1> Okay, there's something else I want to do. How do I create a FAT32 partition on my harddrive? All the space is taken up. Is it possible to resize something? I can at least write to the FAT partition, and it will be accessible from within Windows and Ubuntu.
[09:42] <stefg> vdepizzol: edgy uses a diffrent way of knwing partitions by UUID instead of /dev/ devices. The old dapper applet doesn't work no more so bravely 'man fstab'
[09:42] <dIsOrdEr> you can READ from ntfs from linux
[09:42] <dIsOrdEr> just not write
[09:42] <vinboy> how to unhide a directory?
[09:42] <ebe-1> That's not what I want to do.
[09:42] <gnomefreak> vinboy: ctrl+h
[09:43] <mwe> you can write to ntfs from linux with !ntfs-3g
[09:43] <stefg> !fuse
[09:43] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:43] <gnomefreak> vinboy: depends on how you are trying to veiw them
[09:43] <dIsOrdEr> yes, but it is not stable
[09:43] <mwe> !ntfs-3g
[09:43] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:43] <vinboy> gnomefreak: i want to unhide the whole folder, not just viewing them
[09:43] <mwe> ntfs-3g is a lot safer and faster
[09:43] <vinboy> i want to mark the folder as VISIBLE
[09:43] <vdepizzol> stefg, there is any plan for a "disks-admin" like app for feisty?
[09:43] <ikonia> vdepizzol: there are tons of disk tools
[09:43] <conner> oops joined the channel by accident
[09:44] <kitche> EDinNY: all I get when I search for your camera in linux is one page and it's a shop
[09:44] <mwe> ntfs-3g is supposedly twice as fast as windows native for some operations
[09:44] <humbolto> how would I create an encrypted partition in dapper?
[09:44] <gnomefreak> vinboy: what do you mean your trying to unhide it? if its hidden you want to see it use ctrl+h in nautilus
[09:44] <mharding> anyone have a starter guide for ubuntu
[09:44] <mharding> to get all the programs setup
[09:44] <ikonia> mharding: wiki.ubuntu.org
[09:44] <gnomefreak> vinboy: you cant open what you cant see ;)
[09:44] <ikonia> ubuntu.com sorry
[09:44] <stefg> vdepizzol: i don't know, because the reason for disk-admin being removed from edgy was AFAIK there's currently no maintainer for it
[09:44] <mharding> thanks
[09:44] <humbolto> mwe: and concerning ntfs-3g is this actually available and working properly in dapper?
[09:45] <mwe> humbolto: yes
[09:45] <ebe-1> Well can I just resize a partition, to make room for a FAT partition? Ubuntu, and Windows can read and write to that, right?
[09:45] <gnomefreak> humbolto: its unsafe
[09:45] <mwe> read the link uboty supplied
[09:45] <ebe-1> I just wanna pull some files over.
[09:45] <conner> before I go, scopeboy <3 ubuntu http://www.scopeboy.com
[09:45] <conner> exit
[09:45] <dIsOrdEr> you know there are safe drivers that you can read ext2/ext3 partitions from windows from right?
[09:45] <humbolto> gnomefreak: the later version which are in edgy and will be in feisty are save?
[09:45] <mwe> gnomefreak: why do you think it's unsafe? I read ntfs-3g has been extensively tested without causing errors.
[09:45] <gnutz> hello eveyone
[09:46] <vinboy> gnomefreak: what i mean is I want to permanently mark the folder as NOT hidden..
[09:46] <dIsOrdEr> so why move files around unnecessarily
[09:46] <ebe-1> lmao. But I have to get those drivers on to Windows.
[09:46] <stefg> ebe-1: true... but remeber that 4GB file size limit, and the inefficiency of fat32 on large drives... ntfs-3g isn't so bad
[09:46] <dIsOrdEr> copy them to a usb drive, it's usually fat32 formatted
[09:46] <gnomefreak> humbolto: there is no version we can call safe because windows will never release the ntfs info people need to make a safe one
[09:46] <gnutz> Got an extraction question
[09:46] <john_07> where i can find some dvds with all software of ubuntu ???
[09:46] <nikin> so i have an Asrock I845G based Motherboard with an internal VGA and an AGP port... if i use the internal VGA then everything is just fine... but if i try to use the Geforce4MX 440 in the AGP slot, then it freezes on boot
[09:46] <gnutz> anyone?
[09:46] <gnomefreak> vinboy: not sure if you can do that never tried
[09:47] <stefg> !DVD
[09:47] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:47] <vinboy> gnomefreak: thanks :D
[09:47] <ebe-1> I don't have a USB drive. All I want to do is get a couple of files. Some drivers specifically...for ethernet, so I can use the net on my Windows.
[09:47] <gnomefreak> yw
[09:47] <ebe-1> This is not long term.
[09:47] <kitche> vinboy: just mv the folder so it doesn't have a . in front
[09:47] <nikin> the binary drivers are installed
[09:47] <mwe> well supposedly ntfs has been extensively tested running on millions of files on different system without causing errors. at least that's what I read
[09:47] <gnomefreak> gnutz: ask your question please
[09:47] <mwe> ntfs-3g*
[09:47] <john_07> where i can find some dvds with all software of ubuntu ???
[09:47] <humbolto> gnomefreak: microsoft is about to shovel their own grave. just like ford and GM did.
[09:47] <john_07> isos of dvd!!
[09:47] <gnutz> k Gnome
[09:47] <humbolto> gnomefreak: it is so funny to watch, isn't it.
[09:48] <adaptr> john_07: you can order them, or download them from the mirrors, or get a torrent - have you heard of google ?
[09:48] <gnutz> I am trying to properly extract XXAMP into Ubuntu and File roller keeps poping up
[09:48] <humbolto> does anybody know anyone actually running vista or wanting to run vista?
[09:48] <foobarian> humbolto: why is everyone saying ford is going bankrupt, was there some news about this?
[09:48] <stefg> !offtopic
[09:48] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:48] <gnutz> the File Roller says I dont have perms to extract into the /opt file
[09:48] <Shaba1> did I miss the answer on recovering partitions
[09:48] <Shaba1> ??
[09:48] <nikin> humbolto: yep i know someone.
[09:48] <gnutz>  what da hell?
[09:49] <yukio> Is there a DC++ client for Ubuntu?
[09:49] <gnomefreak> gnutz: you you need to use sudo (your best bet is to do it from command line)
[09:49] <humbolto> foobarian: ford is building cars they can sell nowhere else than in the states
[09:49] <adaptr> Shaba1: what was the question ? not asked in the last 50 lines or so
[09:49] <xtknight> yukio: yes, although the name escapes me.  just search for it in synaptic
[09:49] <xtknight> !DC++
[09:49] <nikin> so i have an Asrock I845G based Motherboard with an internal VGA and an AGP port... if i use the internal VGA then everything is just fine... but if i try to use the Geforce4MX 440 in the AGP slot, then it freezes on boot
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DC++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <gnutz> nome I understand that
[09:49] <gnomefreak> gnutz: you might beable to open file roller with gksudo but never seen it
[09:49] <john_07> yes..i have found some dvd but there are 2 kind of dvd: ubuntu dvd and kubuntu dvd. I'm interested to download all software of ubuntu beacuse in this way i can install all software on a pc not connect to the internet
[09:49] <gnutz>  what is the bash command for manual extraction
[09:49] <gnutz> ?
[09:49] <humbolto> foobarian: and even their other companies build better cars
[09:50] <gnomefreak> gnutz: tar -C /opt/whatever  file.tar.gz
[09:50] <yukio> xtknight, already done, nothing :\
[09:50] <humbolto> driving a ford is like running windows 2.0
[09:50] <kitche> gnutz: extraction for what?
[09:50] <stefg> john_07: read about local apt-repositories in the apt-howto
[09:50] <xtknight> gnutz: unzip <file.zip>    unrar -x <file.rar>   tar -xzvf <file.tar.gz>  gunzip -d <file.gz>     tar -xjvf <file.tar.bz2>
[09:50] <gnutz> for  XXAMP
[09:50] <gnomefreak> gnutz: why not just untar it where it is and sudo mv to /opt
[09:50] <stefg> !apt | john_07
[09:50] <ubotu> john_07: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:50] <gnutz> I want to make sure that install it right
[09:50] <gnomefreak> gnutz: what are you installing?
[09:51] <Flannel> gnomefreak: why XAMPP? when LAMP is literally a half dozen commands away, and under package management?
[09:51] <gnutz> what is sudo mv
[09:51] <gnomefreak> Flannel: im not installing anything :)
[09:51] <gnutz>  Im just not use to sudo yet
[09:51] <adaptr> john_07: you ...can't, there is probably 100Gb of software available, how many dvd's do you have ?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> mv == move
[09:51] <Flannel> gnutz, that's for you.
[09:51] <mwe> http://www.ntfs-3g.org/quality.html#testmethods <-- looks pretty convincing ;)
[09:51] <Shaba1> adaptr I asked if after I made a linux/ubuntu partition on my hd
[09:51] <john_07> i have 50 dvds...
[09:51] <nikin> so i have an Asrock I845G based Motherboard with an internal VGA and an AGP port... if i use the internal VGA then everything is just fine... but if i try to use the Geforce4MX 440 in the AGP slot, then it freezes on boot , i have installled the binary drivers... The EIP is smp_apic_timer_interrupt
[09:51] <humbolto> foobarian: everywhere but in the US Ford is known to be the worst car you can possibly buy.
[09:51] <jannu1> is there any program witch i can bind my media buttons on keyboard for xmms?
[09:52] <Shaba1> Then decicded I need room for windows
[09:52] <john_07> i have to use apt-on-cd ??
[09:52] <yukio> Anyone know how to get a working DC++ client for Ubuntu?
[09:52] <adaptr> !xbindkeys | jannu1
[09:52] <Shaba1> How hard is it to recover that space and have windows to recognize it again without reinstalling windows or reformating
[09:52] <ubotu> xbindkeys: Associate a combination of keys or mouse buttons with a shell command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 148 kB
[09:52] <Natalita> hola
[09:52] <mwe> xtknight: hey ;)
[09:53] <humbolto> foobarian: so how will they survive with 15 years old technology they can only sell in the US in a globalized market?
[09:53] <jannu1> adaptr thx ill try
[09:53] <Mace68> has anybody ever installed and booted ubuntu from an external usb drive?
[09:53] <Flannel> Shaba1: you'll have to reformat that partition
[09:53] <xtknight> mwe: hello
[09:53] <Shaba1> damn
[09:53] <IntuitiveNipple> Is there a guide to installing /boot /home etc to separate partitions/drives using 6.10 from the Desktop Live CD
[09:53] <Natalita> parece q nadie me entiende o si?
[09:53] <Shaba1> Oh well LIVECD only
[09:53] <adaptr> Shaba1: that's a Windows question, obviously... under Ubuntu, changing partition layouts is quite simple, but Windows may completely break depending on how you set it up in the first place
[09:53] <Music_Shuffle> While Ford's troubles are interesting I'm sure, how do they relate to support for Ubuntu?
[09:53] <bieb> Shaba, with disk manager, you can just format the partition to NTFS and your done
[09:53] <nn531_> can anyone help me with airsnort.. im completely retarded
[09:53] <Music_Shuffle> !es | Natalita
[09:53] <ubotu> Natalita: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:54] <xtknight> yukio: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/quality.html#testmethods
[09:54] <xtknight> yukio: err, wrong url
[09:54] <xtknight> yukio: for linux DC++ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28378
[09:54] <dIsOrdEr> best bet, install windows first on the first partition, then install your distro..
[09:54] <john_07> can compiz run well on an ATI RADEON 7000 ??
[09:54] <dIsOrdEr> otherwise windows complains and fails and breaks often
[09:54] <yukio> thanks xtknight
[09:55] <xtknight> !dc++
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dc++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <xtknight> is there any way to add stuff to ubotu?
[09:55] <name> i have multiple versions of python installed, how do i set the one that's linked against "/usr/bin/python"
[09:55] <dIsOrdEr> symlink?
[09:55] <nikin> so i have an Asrock I845G based Motherboard with an internal VGA and an AGP port... if i use the internal VGA then everything is just fine... but if i try to use the Geforce4MX 440 in the AGP slot, then it freezes on boot , i have installled the binary drivers... The EIP is smp_apic_timer_interrupt
[09:55] <mwe> xtknight: yes.
[09:55] <name> there was i program
[09:55] <name> dIsOrdEr:
[09:56] <xtknight> name:  ln -s /actual/file  /usr/bin/python
[09:56] <xtknight> mwe: yes to what?  :)
[09:56] <mwe> xtknight: ubotu: foo is bar. then it must be reviewed by an op to be accepted
[09:56] <name> wasn't there a prog?
[09:56] <xtknight> mwe: oh
[09:56] <xtknight> mwe: foo is bar?  whaddya mean by that
[09:57] <mwe> xtknight: that would add the factoid foo causing ubotu to answer "foo is bar" for !foo
[09:57] <Music_Shuffle> ...as in...you say: "ubotu: dog is cat", and its submitted to the ops, and if they approve, then whenever you say !dog, it says cat.
[09:57] <xtknight> mwe: i see, so 'is' is the delimiter?
[09:57] <mwe> xtknight: right.
[09:58] <mwe> xtknight: see !usage
[09:58] <n2diy> ! ubotu
[09:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:58] <xtknight> !usage
[09:58] <Shaba1> bieb then I would have two ntsf partitions?
[09:58] <bieb> yeah
[09:58] <Shaba1> I mean I could not make the recovered one merge back into window some way without reformating?
[09:58] <Shaba1> Is what I meant
[09:59] <mwe> xtknight: the !ubotu factoid is the same that's why it didnt repeat the answer
[09:59] <bieb> hmmm.. I dont think Windows allows "expansion" of an existing volume
[09:59] <Flannel> Shaba1: I'm not sure if windows formatters can expand your partition like that.  It'd come down to what you were using, and what they supported.
[09:59] <nikin> Shabal: you can try use PQ magic.... but i ame realy not sure that it will work
[09:59] <IntuitiveNipple> bieb - yes it does, XP or 2003, you use the Diskpart.exe program, and the EXTEND command
[09:59] <xtknight> yukio: maybe this is a better url http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193984&page=1
[09:59] <bieb> Shaba1... take a look at Partition Magic for Windows
[10:00] <IntuitiveNipple> diskpart.exe, select disk X, select partition Y, extend <additional space to use in MB>, exit
[10:00] <bieb> IN.. cool.. thanks for that info. I didnt know you could do that
[10:00] <xtknight> ubotu: dc++ is DC++ is a Direct Connect file sharing program.  For instructions on how to set up Linux DC++, visit http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193984&page=1
[10:00] <IntuitiveNipple> the command are typed as I showed them there: "select disk 2"
[10:00] <IntuitiveNipple> "select partition 2"
[10:00] <nikin> so i have an Asrock I845G based Motherboard with an internal VGA and an AGP port... if i use the internal VGA then everything is just fine... but if i try to use the Geforce4MX 440 in the AGP slot, then it freezes on boot , i have installled the binary drivers... The EIP is smp_apic_timer_interrupt [intel_agp]  any ideas?
[10:01] <mwe> xtknight: you wouldn't do that. dc++ is DC++ is ;)
[10:01] <IntuitiveNipple> "extend 2000" will add 2GB from empty space on the disk that isn't used by other partitions
[10:01] <xtknight> mwe: really?  but I do want 'DC++ is' in the text it returns ;O
[10:01] <xtknight> or is it imperative that 'foo is' always be returned
[10:01] <mwe> xtknight: it would say dc++ is DC++ is ...
[10:01] <Shaba1> Ok I guess just live cd for now
[10:01] <nikin> xtknight: as you see i ame a bit further with my problem... still not solved tho :(
[10:01] <Shaba1> but that seems so cheesy
[10:02] <xtknight> LOL i give up ;)
[10:02] <mwe> ubotu: no, dc++ is a Direct Connect file sharing program.  For instructions on how to set up Linux DC++, visit http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193984&page=1
[10:02] <xtknight> thanks :P
[10:02] <mwe> ;)
[10:02] <xtknight> nikin: umm haven't really been following
[10:02] <xtknight> nikin: isnt that what you got last time or is that a different eip
[10:02] <Linuturk> !fiesty
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fiesty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <Sonat> could anybody tell me why doesn't my num-keyboard work after i installed beryl? :P
[10:03] <nikin> i know... just i wanted to tel :D
[10:03] <killown> how I do to create virtual machine for to run in vmware player?
[10:03] <Sonat> nobody :D
[10:03] <adaptr> killown: the player cannot create machines
[10:03] <Music_Shuffle> !Fiesty
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Fiesty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <adaptr> heh
[10:03] <xtknight> killown: use vmware server (also free) or download a premade vmware image at http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/
[10:03] <toM|vendettA> hi, i currently have Ubuntu Edgy installed, but I want to install windows xp also so that I can use photoshop and a few other programs, are there any tutorials on how to install winxp and linux? I found a few tutorials but they all assume you have windows installed first, and i dont.
[10:03] <mwe> xtknight: you can use <reply> to have ubotu not prepend what you add with "blah is" I think
[10:03] <Music_Shuffle> There's no entry for Fiesty? Odd.
[10:03] <Valmarko> More games like Nexuiz ? anyone knows?
[10:03] <killown> thanks
[10:03] <adaptr> !feisty
[10:03] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:04] <nikin> i am afraid that maybe the agp driver has a problem... i use i386 kernel, is that ok?
[10:04] <svish> do you use cp to copy a directory and its contents too? or is there an other command for that?
[10:04] <xtknight> nikin: i386 ? yes should be fine for all x86 cpus (well all modern ones)
[10:04] <Music_Shuffle> adaptr, wow. Spelling ftl.
[10:04] <adaptr> svish: cp can do anything
[10:04] <hjmills> toM|vendettA: you will need to reinstall grub after installing windows - apart from that you are fine
[10:04] <Music_Shuffle> Thanks for that. xD
[10:04] <feryana> Hi guys!
[10:04] <svish> adaptr: cool.
[10:04] <xtknight> svish: cp -a
[10:04] <toM|vendettA> hjmills: so i can just install windows and it'll work fine? or what =s
[10:04] <feryana> I would like to save al my e-mailfolders from Evolution, and put all of them in other evolution. How can I do that?
[10:05] <xtknight> svish: cp does not recurse subdirectories.  cp -a does.
[10:05] <nn531_> does anyone know why my firefox is really slow?
[10:05] <svish> ok
[10:05] <adaptr> svish: if the last argument to cp ends in a slash it will be taken to be a directory, even if it does not exist - there is a switch you can use to make it create the destination directory
[10:05] <hjmills> toM|vendettA: windows will - but you need to reinstall grub to get linux working again
[10:05] <xtknight> svish: but if you cp one folder it will copy that folder AND its contents (minus its subdirectories) -a will do its subdirs/their files/subdirs/etc as well
[10:05] <jannu1> adaptr thx for xbindkeys, its awesome. is xbindkeys auto loaded in boot or should i do something?
[10:05] <nikin> !agp
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about agp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <nn531_> !airsnort
[10:05] <ubotu> airsnort: WLAN sniffer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7e-1.1 (edgy), package size 49 kB, installed size 180 kB
[10:05] <mwe> nn531_: how is it slow? loading the pages slowly or what?
[10:06] <adaptr> jannu1: the official site should tell you all it can do, I found the Ubuntu bits on ubuntuguide.org (may be .com)
[10:06] <jannu1> ok
[10:06] <toM|vendettA> hjmills: okay, i was on the grub website and it was a little shady as to what it did and i wasnt sure. grub just takes control of the computer when i start up and it lets me choose which operating system I want to go into?
[10:06] <nn531_> mwe: yeah the pages are loading really slow, but the downloads are still fast, I dont know wath the problem is
[10:06] <nn531_> mwe: it just seems like it isnt as responsive as it was when I was running windows
[10:06] <hjmills> toM|vendettA: grub either starts the win xp boot process or it loads the linux kernel and gives it a shove to get it going
[10:06] <svish> adaptr: so.. how would I do this: I have a directory called TestApp with some c++ sourcefiles. I want to copy them to new dir called TestApp2 or something
[10:07] <mwe> nn531_: I heard disabling ipv6 might help. let me find a link
[10:07] <Flannel> !ipv6
[10:07] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:07] <feryana> how can I save all my e-mail folders from Evolution? I would like to  make a whole backup of it, because I have several filters and important e-mails that I don't want to lose!!!
[10:07] <hjmills> toM|vendettA: when you rinstall windows it will put the windows boot loader (the equivalent of grub for windows) into the right place to start windows - unfortunatly this means grub is over written so you cant boot linux
[10:07] <xtknight> maybe ubotu's drunk, he just now added my dc++ request.
[10:07] <adaptr> svish: as said previously, use cp - a ("archive") to make a complete backup (or clone) of a directory including all permissions etc.
[10:08] <xtknight> or said he forwarded it over  :P
[10:08] <svish> ok
[10:08] <mwe> nn531_: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/72363-firefox-swiftfox-slow-down.html
[10:08] <svish> thanks :)
[10:08] <adaptr> svish: man cp for all details
[10:08] <Flannel> mwe: there's an ubotu link, just so you know for the future: ipv6
[10:08] <hjmills> toM|vendettA: as grub can boot windows as well you can boot from the ubuntu cd and run a few commands to install grub and grub will autodetect windows and you get a menu on startup to let you choose which you want
[10:08] <mwe> Flannel: oh
[10:09] <xtknight> does `cp -rf` not copy hidden files (files starting with .)?
[10:09] <xtknight> i noticed it did not, but -a did, last time i tried
[10:09] <toM|vendettA> okay, thanks for the help hjmills
[10:09] <feryana> !evolution
[10:09] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 5022 kB, installed size 38204 kB
[10:09] <mwe> xtknight: I think -a also preserves perms and links correctly though -r might as well on newer systems
[10:10] <svish> adaptr: what is the create directory switch?
[10:10] <hjmills> toM|vendettA: sure - just come back if you need help
[10:10] <nn531_> mwe: holy christ that is fast now
[10:10] <nn531_> thank you so very much
[10:10] <nikin> ah i got fancy new error message :( it tends to be that the problem is in agpgart ... it detects my chipset right, but then i get "No prelocated video memory detected" and "AGP apreture size is 128M @ 0xD0000000"
[10:10] <mwe> nn531_: yw
[10:10] <mwe> xtknight: supposedly -a is the same as -dpR
[10:10] <xtknight> mwe: yeah
[10:10] <adaptr> svish: man cp does not tell you this ?
[10:11] <xtknight> mwe: i think because my cp -rf was lacking the p that hidden files did not get <p>reserved
[10:11] <svish> adaptr: cant find anything there no
[10:11] <feryana> how can I make a backup of an entire program with all the configurations and options (such filters on Evolution) Thanks
[10:11] <mwe> xtknight: probably
[10:11] <nikin> !agpgart
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about agpgart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <mwe> xtknight: I thought -r did copy . files though
[10:11] <Agrajag> feryana: all of your configuration for every program exists in your home directory. Back up your home directory.
[10:12] <n2diy> feryana: are you in X?
[10:12] <feryana> n2diy I have dapper drake 6.10
[10:12] <adaptr> svish: you're right - that's odd, I thought it was in there
[10:13] <n2diy> feryana: click on places-home folder.
[10:13] <xtknight> mwe: youre right it does.  i guess i wasnt doing ls - al and only ls when i thought i had missing ones.  i just tested it and rf copies hidden ones
[10:13] <Agrajag> feryana: 6.10 is edgy eft
[10:13] <feryana> Agrajag, so I copy .evolution folder to an external hard drive, and all my mails and configs will be done?
[10:13] <k6> hi all
[10:13] <adaptr> svish: no worries - the target dir will always get created
[10:13] <Agrajag> config, yes. I don't know for sure if it keeps your mail there.
[10:13] <diazamet> I am trying to get a Ralink RT61 wireless card working but I can't get onto the ralink website to download the firmware.  Anyone know anywhere else to get it?
[10:13] <feryana> ok...
[10:13] <feryana> and also
[10:13] <hjmills> !grue
[10:13] <ubotu> The grue is a sinister, lurking presence in the dark places of the earth. Its favorite diet is adventurers, but its insatiable appetite is tempered by its fear of light. No grue has ever been seen by the light of day, and few have survived its fearsome jaws to tell the tale. Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_(monster)
[10:13] <k6> i tried to upgrade hoary to edgy but it didn't work ! i rebooted and now i don't have a xserver anymore :(
[10:13] <k6> what shoudl i do ?
[10:13] <xtknight> feryana: ideally you cuold use evolution's export functions
[10:13] <adaptr> svish: I just tested this - if the source is an entire directory, just running "cp -a sourcedir destdir" will work like you would expect it to
[10:14] <Agrajag> feryana: looks like evolution keeps your mail in .evolution/mail
[10:14] <svish> adaptr: cp TestClass/ TestMake/ -a returned cp: target 'TestMake/' is not a directory: No such file or directory
[10:14] <feryana> can I make a backup of my entire system, wilth all my files? I would like to copy all of this to other pc
[10:14] <Agrajag> feryana: so yeah, back up that folder
[10:14] <adaptr> svish: leave the slashes off
[10:14] <feryana> Agrajag ok thanks a lot!
[10:14] <\lart> So, I've read over the (absurdly long) thread on the forums about disabling ipv6.  And I'm just curious - why kill a fly with a sledgehammer?  Seems pretty clear that it's an application config problem, and not the underlying OS, since simply disabling the ipv6 dns queries in FF makes the problem vanish...
[10:14] <svish> adaptr: ah.. without those..
[10:14] <svish> adaptr: doh :p
[10:14] <n2diy> feryana: use my nick when you reply, so it is highlighted for me. Ok, can you see your /.evolution directory?
[10:14] <Agrajag> feryana: best thing you could do is back up your entire home directory.
[10:14] <Flannel> k6: you can't upgrade straight from hoary to edgy.  You need to go hoary > breezy > dapper > edgy.  As for what to do now, depends on what's broken.
[10:14] <xtknight> sounds like a long process.  why not just install edgy?  hehe
[10:15] <feryana> n2diy yep I copied the entire folder .evolution
[10:15] <xtknight> feryana: you can test your backup by creating another user and then seeing if it sees the mail
[10:15] <nikin> so i have an Asrock I845G based Motherboard with an internal VGA and an AGP port... if i use the internal VGA then everything is just fine... but if i try to use the Geforce4MX 440 in the AGP slot, then it freezes on boot , i have installled the binary drivers... The EIP is smp_apic_timer_interrupt [intel_agp]  any ideas?
[10:15] <nikin> ah i got fancy new error message :( it tends to be that the problem is in agpgart ... it detects my chipset right, but then i get "No prelocated video memory detected" and "AGP apreture size is 128M @ 0xD0000000"
[10:15] <feryana> Agrajag, how do I do that? Just copy / paste?
[10:15] <n2diy> feryana: ok, that isn't what I wanted you to do, try right clicking on the folder, and select archive.
[10:15] <kyncani> k6: do you have a separate /home ?
[10:16] <mwe> \lart: appearently there's a wiki explaining it which is not absurdly long ;)
[10:16] <feryana> ok.
[10:16] <feryana> wait
[10:16] <mwe> \lart: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:16] <mharding> hello
[10:16] <xtknight> nikin: is that the last thing you see (the AGP message)??
[10:16] <xtknight> mharding: hi, do u have a question?
[10:16] <mharding> does anyone in here have a dell laptop that has a dell 1390 wireless card
[10:16] <nikin> yep... then it freezes
[10:17] <n2diy> feryana: whoops, create archive.
[10:17] <feryana> n2diy create archive? I don't have an "archive" option
[10:17] <svish> adaptr: how do a delete a non empty directory then? rmdir says its not empty. which I know. but I would like to delete it with all of its contents, hehe
[10:17] <mharding> I can't get mine to connect
[10:17] <feryana> haha ok
[10:17] <karl> can anyone tell me how to make eth0 (wired ethernet) be the default interface, instead of eth1 (wireless) ? They both seem to have the same link metric, and it's choosing the wireless link first every time.
[10:17] <n2diy> feryana: yes.
[10:17] <xtknight> svish: rm -r /dir/ec/to/ry
[10:17] <gregcha117> is there anyway i can access the partitioning thing that created the ubuntu partition for me on install and resize it again, i want to increase my ubuntu partition because i dont use windows very often anymore
[10:17] <feryana> n2diy? tar.gz extension?
[10:17] <\lart> mwe, yes, that seems to be the sledgehammer method.  absolutely no need to blacklist ipv6 if you don't have v6 available.  just change the ff config so it doesn't do ipv6 dns lookups..
[10:17] <n2diy> feryana: yes.
[10:17] <feryana> ok
[10:17] <xtknight> mharding: it's a Dell card or is it rebranded?
[10:18] <pibarnas> hi folks... I'm trying to make a bash script for backup. In a parent  directory I have foo1 foo2 foo3 foo4... directories. How can I count [foo]  [numbers]  separately? I've tried with wc and ls {1..68}, but don't succeed... :( Does anyone can help me?
[10:18] <svish> adaptr: thanks! will try not to bother you for a while now :p
[10:18] <mwe> \lart: um it explain how to disable ipv6 just in mozilla as well
[10:18] <xtknight> mharding: type lspci -vv and post it on pastebin please
[10:18] <xtknight> !pastebin | mharding
[10:18] <ubotu> mharding: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:18] <mwe> \lart: that works for firefox too
[10:18] <adaptr> svish: you might want to use -i with that, as one wrong move will screw you *bad*
[10:18] <feryana> n2diy OK is working :)
[10:18] <gysomogyi> hallo
[10:18] <svish> adaptr: -i? what does -i do?
[10:18] <rublind> is it possible to install ubuntu via floppy?
[10:18] <adaptr> svish: -interactive, asks you confirmation
[10:18] <\lart> mwe, yes, but the first part of the help tells you to kill ipv6 for the whole system.  do you not see that?
[10:18] <nikin> xtknight: i got the new error message using acpi=off noapic nolapic
[10:18] <gysomogyi> i have a question about apache+php
[10:18] <feryana> wow.... I must have thousands of files... it takes time :P
[10:18] <mwe> \lart: I did
[10:19] <svish> adaptr: aha. cool. yeah.. didnt do that, but think I survived, lol
[10:19] <hjmills> !php | gysomogyi:
[10:19] <ubotu> gysomogyi:: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:19] <svish> scary stuff..
[10:19] <adaptr> svish: please get into the habit of reading man pages whenever you need to use a command.. it helps everybody
[10:19] <n2diy> feryana: ok, now that file is a compressed tar ball of all your evolution stuff, you could move it to a USB stick for safe keeping.
[10:19] <mwe> \lart: the second method wont work for konqueror for example
[10:19] <mharding> can someone help me get my wireless card working
[10:19] <xtknight> nikin: gee well if u cant boot with acpi=off noapic nolapic then i dont know whta youll be able to boot with.  "irqpoll" maybe, or something else.
[10:19] <jeff2> I added Option XLeds "1 2 3" to my xorg.conf, and the Xorg.0.log file shows that this setting is read correctly, but xset led still does not change my caps and numlock. why?
[10:19] <\lart> mwe, that sounds like an application problem again - not a system problem..
[10:19] <xtknight> mharding: type lspci -vv and post it on pastebin please
[10:19] <feryana> cool, thanks n2diy, I'm buying soon a new pc and I want to have everything like now, but the most importante are the e-mails
[10:20] <nikin> oki i try
[10:20] <mwe> \lart: if you don't need ipv6 why not just disable it to avoid the problems it can cause?
[10:20] <svish> adaptr: yeah, sorry bout that. but I did try actually, just looked at rmdir instead of rm..
[10:20] <pibarnas> hey folks, do you know a bash script channel on this net?
[10:20] <Astaroth_> i'm trying to build my own kernel, when typing "sudo make" it runs for ~5min then it says "drivers/built-in.o: In function `imacfb_probe':
[10:20] <Astaroth_> imacfb.c:(.init.text+0x4aa): undefined reference to `efi'
[10:20] <Astaroth_> make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1]  Fehler 1
[10:20] <Astaroth_> "
[10:20] <Astaroth_> whats that efi?
[10:20] <xtknight> Astaroth_: something else is obviously wrong with your kernel source tree.
[10:20] <\lart> mwe, why mess with the OS to mask an application config problem?
[10:20] <n2diy> feryana: ok, If you want to save all/most of your stuff, go up a directory, and archive feryana.
[10:21] <Flannel> !kernel | Astaroth_
[10:21] <rublind> ubuntu install via floppy anyone?
[10:21] <ubotu> Astaroth_: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:21] <gregcha117> is there a way to resize my ubuntu partition without reinstalling it ?
[10:21] <kyncani> pibarnas: ... like #bash ??
[10:21] <n2diy> feryana: that will include .evolution too.
[10:21] <adaptr> svish: rmdir.. not actually that useful
[10:21] <\lart> Sounds like going to the doctor because you've got a broken finger, and he amputates your arm.  There, you don't have a broken finger any longer.
[10:21] <xtknight> gregcha117: resizing a partition can be dangerous but gparted can do it.  making it larger is not as dangerous
[10:21] <Flannel> Astaroth_: efi is macs replacement for BIOS
[10:21] <feryana> n2diy OK. Then when I install Ubuntu on the new pc, when I move that folder I will have all already installed?
[10:21] <Astaroth_> xtknight: how can i fix that; find out where it is?
[10:21] <mwe> \lart: IMO you don't "mess with the OS" by disabling ipv6
[10:21] <feryana> I don't thing so, right? Or I will?
[10:21] <gregcha117> i just want to make it larger, how do i go about doing that?
[10:22] <mbb> !firestarter
[10:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[10:22] <\lart> mwe, disabling kernel modules is most certainly messing with the OS.
[10:22] <Astaroth_> Flannel: do i need it?
[10:22] <n2diy> feryana: nope, move the file back to where it belongs, then right click on it, and extract it.
[10:22] <nikin> xtknight: i got the same with irqpoll
[10:22] <mharding> where is pastebin
[10:22] <xtknight> Astaroth_: umm, i recommend starting over and following the Master Kernel Thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[10:22] <svish> adaptr: it should say stuff like that in the man or the --help :P rmdir --help -> not useful, use rm instead, lol
[10:22] <gregcha117> xtknight: im not sure how to make it larger using gparted
[10:22] <xtknight> nikin: sorry dude i really have no clue, search for stuff on google regarding your PC/laptop's model.
[10:22] <Astaroth_> xtknight: k
[10:22] <mwe> \lart: can we agree that we don't agree? ;)
[10:22] <xtknight> gregcha117: you cant resize a mounted partition
[10:23] <feryana> n2diy I know that, I mean, when I extract all to it place, all the software will be installed again? Or I must start from 0 doing the synaptics stufff and all of that
[10:23] <\lart> mwe, clearly..  you go ahead making sweeping changes to the OS, I'll go on fixing application configurations. :)
[10:23] <adaptr> svish: well, most man pages are ancient.. they tend not to get updated after having been out-developed
[10:23] <jeff2> how can I make my computer turn on at a given time?
[10:23] <nikin> xtknight: ty anyway.... i tried that before.. didnt find any info
[10:23] <slyboots> Hello
[10:23] <xtknight> nikin: ok what's the model again?  sorry... 865g ... ??
[10:23] <nikin> 845G
[10:23] <xtknight> nikin: you are trying a livecd, correct?
[10:23] <xtknight> nikin: what mainboard?
[10:23] <gregcha117> xtknight: how would i go about making it larger then ?
[10:23] <mwe> \lart: yeah I'll change linux operating system by not loading the ipv6 module
[10:23] <gysomogyi> thanks, i will try out LAMP
[10:24] <xtknight> gregcha117: what file system is the partition in which you're trying to enlarge?
[10:24] <xtknight> not loading the ipv6 module is harmless
[10:24] <Agrajag> linux isn't an operating system, it's a kernel.
[10:24] <adaptr> a partition is in a file system ?
[10:24] <xtknight> and not modifying anything
[10:24] <gregcha117> xtknight: its ubuntu so ext3 i think
[10:24] <slyboots> libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.5 for DVD access
[10:24] <slyboots> libdvdread: Could not open /dev/hda with libdvdcss.
[10:24] <xtknight> as long as you dont use ipv6 that is
[10:24] <n2diy> feryana: you'll probably have to use synaptic again, unless you can also back up /var, /usr/local, and /etc, even then, you won't be guarnteed a full back up.
[10:24] <xtknight> it's just semantics to argue that it's any major modi
[10:24] <gregcha117> xtknight: i want to make ubuntu's portion larger and decrease my windows
[10:24] <xtknight> gregcha117: are both on the same hard disk?
[10:24] <feryana> ok. Thanks a lot :P Ya better I just backup feryana
[10:25] <mharding> Hello
[10:25] <\lart> mwe, clearly you have no understanding of the context.  You're making changes to the way the system loads its kernel.  That's not the same thing as modifying kernel sources, which you seem to be under the impression that I'm suggesting you're doing.
[10:25] <mharding> can someone please help me to get my wireless card working
[10:25] <\lart> best of luck.
[10:25] <xtknight> mharding: duuude...did you post lspci -vv to pastebin or what?
[10:25] <gregcha117> xtknight: yeah its just the one hard drive
[10:25] <mwe> \lart: you were the one who said I would make "sweeping changes to the OS" ;)
[10:25] <xtknight> mharding: sorry, we need that to be able to help you though and we asked three times :)
[10:25] <nikin> xtknight: no lice CD.... installed 6.10 and maybe i found something on google ... try to figure it out ... mainboard is Asrock i845G
[10:26] <mharding> what is pastebin
[10:26] <adaptr> !Pastebin
[10:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:26] <mharding> !pastebin
[10:26] <xtknight> gregcha117: ok you will need to decrease the size of the ntfs one first...ummm make sure you backup your data that's all i can say.  things SHOULD work but humans make programs so things can go wrong
[10:26] <nikin> i found something on the net, that i have to disable the AGP support, and use Nvidias Internal one
[10:26] <slyboots> you could try helping me :D
[10:26] <xtknight> nikin: oh thats a good clue as to how to fix it
[10:27] <mick_> hello, i have 2 questions that should be fairly starightforward. 1) is there a syntax of the tar command that will allow me to extract the contents of all the archived files within a folder to single specific folder?
[10:27] <gregcha117> xtknight: alright thanks i think i know what to do now
[10:27] <mharding> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/378/
[10:27] <slyboots> Trying to play a authentic DVD in Ubuntu, but when I try to play it in VLC or Totem I get libdvdccs2 failues (Unable to access /dev/hda)
[10:27] <slyboots> (/dev/hda is my DVD-drive)
[10:27] <mharding> xtknight: I have it done http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/378/
[10:27] <Draiden> anybody has experience with Ubuntu 6.10 Raid 0 on an MSI motherboard
[10:27] <Draiden> ?
[10:27] <xtknight> mharding: thanks, one sec
[10:28] <tonyKUN> I installed Beryl and I'm wondering how do I use the wrokspace cube thing?
[10:28] <mharding> k
[10:28] <Sleepy_|> slyboots : have you try mplayer ?
[10:28] <nikin> how can i change the runlevel i want in grub?
[10:28] <xtknight> mharding: well, this may require a kernel recompile.  linux does no detect your broadcom
[10:28] <mwe> tonyKUN: middle-click and drag
[10:29] <xtknight> mharding: or we could use ndiswrapper.  but i like the builtin one.
[10:29] <tonyKUN> mwe, thanks'
[10:29] <slyboots> Sleepy_|, Yes It loads the DVD, determins there are several video tracks and subtitles, then ouputs the message "DVD successfully opened" But does nothing else after that
[10:29] <mwe> tonyKUN: or ctrl-alt + click and drag
[10:29] <n2diy> ! init
[10:29] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[10:29] <mharding> ok, so how do I do this
[10:29] <xtknight> !ndiswrapper | mharding
[10:29] <gumpish> Does Dapper have NTFS read support enabled by default?
[10:29] <ubotu> mharding: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:29] <xtknight> gumpish: yes, not write support though
[10:29] <computermc> mysql-admin keeps crashing when I try to administer users. On Ubuntu 6.10, what can I do to fix that?
[10:29] <Sleepy_|> slyboots: i have installed easyubuntu and everything works
[10:30] <ignacio> join #grulic
[10:30] <ignacio> ups
[10:30] <mharding> what broadcom do I have
[10:30] <slyboots> Sleepy_|, All that wll do is install the libdvdccs script, Which I've already done
[10:30] <AoA> I installed kernel header and linux source but when I try to compile some modem driver it tells me I dont have linux source, please install
[10:30] <mwe> gumpish: ntfs-3g should be safe enough according to the tests, though
[10:30] <Sleepy_|> sly: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/index.html
[10:30] <xai> looking for an ASUS  AMD-dual core mobo that is well supported under ubuntu. Any suggestions?
[10:31] <xtknight> mharding: Broadcam, device ID 4311.  it is not recognized but ill see if i can pull up a chipset
[10:31] <xtknight> xai: any should work under ubuntu
[10:31] <slyboots> Sleepy_|,  I would rather not run scripts like that I've heard reports of them trashing systems
[10:31] <xtknight> xai: none will really work better than the other.  it's the amd dual core part that you should be worried about, although i think ubuntu can glide through that just fine too
[10:31] <Sleepy_|> sly: ok
[10:32] <xtknight> mharding: this is a good place to start: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=broadcom+4311&btnG=Google+Search
[10:32] <feryana> wow, everything is in Feryana, well almost everything.... 49 gigs
[10:32] <feryana> plugging external drive...
[10:32] <feryana> lol
[10:32] <robdeman> _aibot_ you still here?
[10:32] <rance> im having trouble with an acer AL1706 lcd monitor, it keeps saying that the input type is not supported sometime in the boot process, even after I modified the boot prompt from the rescue cd to add a vga=ask line
[10:32] <computermc> mysql-admin keeps crashing when I try to administer users. On Ubuntu 6.10, what can I do to fix that?
[10:32] <xtknight> mharding: what version of ubuntu?
[10:33] <xtknight> mharding: i set up a card with the same chipset the other day.
[10:33] <mharding> 6.10
[10:33] <mharding> can you help any
[10:33] <xtknight> mharding: type 'sudo modprobe bcm43xx'
[10:33] <Sleepy_|> how do i change the GDM clock to be 24 hour not AM PM
[10:33] <Sleepy_|> ?
[10:33] <xtknight> Sleepy_|: right click on clock, preferences
[10:33] <n2diy> Sleepy_|: right click on it, then prefrences.
[10:33] <Arigato> what does system load measure? what does a system load mean?
[10:34] <mharding> ok
[10:34] <mharding> what was that suppose to do
[10:34] <val__> bios question,,,,is linux a pnp os?
[10:34] <xtknight> mharding: now post the output of 'dmesg' into pastebin please
[10:34] <xtknight> mharding: it was supposed to load a driver
[10:34] <Sleepy_|> xtknight: not gnome clock  works ok , but the login window clock !
[10:34] <val__> xtknight thanks for your help last night
[10:34] <xtknight> Sleepy_|: hmmm
[10:35] <xtknight> val__: no problem, pretty sure u can enable PNP OS in bios for linux tho, i dont even know what the diff is, i wouldnt touch it unless ur having issues
[10:35] <n2diy> Sleepy_|: sudo date?
[10:35] <mharding> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/379/
[10:35] <xtknight> he means before you login to gnome, there's a timer
[10:35] <xtknight> i didnt know that
[10:36] <xtknight> mharding: well it looks like the driver may not have found your device
[10:36] <daxxar> Sometimes gnome-power-manager just stops updating. (Says I'm running on battery and at 3%, when I'm above that and connected to the outlet)
[10:36] <xtknight> mharding: In Ubuntu Edgy and the 2.6.17 kernels, the kernel module is enabled by default, but that kernel module does NOT provide stable support for the 4311 chipset.
[10:36] <daxxar> Anyone know why, and how to fix it?
[10:36] <val__> didnt know if its a pnp os  maybe disabling that would assign irq better. with nforce430 chipset
[10:36] <mharding> when I do sudo iwlist scanning
[10:36] <xtknight> mharding: follow this guide: http://wiki.waningsun.net/index.php?title=Dell_E1405_%26_Linux_HOWTO
[10:37] <mharding> it picks up my card
[10:37] <xtknight> mharding: oh..iwlist does something?
[10:37] <xtknight> mharding: it may, but it has buggy support.
[10:37] <kejup> Hi everyone
[10:37] <mharding> ok
[10:37] <xtknight> mharding: you have to go thru the above guide to get stable support for it even tho its detected
[10:37] <kejup> I just tried a fresh install of Edgy, but it won't let me login. I'm getting the error message "Incorrect username or password".
[10:38] <mharding> oh reallly
[10:38] <AoA> how to export kernel source path so installation programs can find it ?
[10:38] <kejup> Does anyone know how to fix this problem with edgy?
[10:38] <n2diy> kejup: logins are case sensitive.
[10:39] <xtknight> kejup: you're sure you didn't leave the liveCD in there when u rebooted right?
[10:39] <kejup> n2diy: I know, I'm pretty sure this is a problem with edgy, as google reveals many people with the same problem.
[10:39] <Sleepy_|> how to change the starting day of the week from sunday to monday ?
[10:39] <val__> xtknight does it matter that the broadcom driver for windows has been updated? there is a new one on the hp site i noticed
[10:39] <paradizelost> quick question, is there anything that can be used besides minicom for connecting to COM ports?
[10:39] <kejup> xtknight: Nope, I don't even have the cd drive in anymore.
[10:39] <pchilds> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to enable surround sound 5.1 in dapper?  Edgy Eft can do it but isn't stable enough for my pc.
[10:39] <daxxar> Say I have a parallell install of Windows on this machine. How can I best use Wine to run an application installed under that Windows?
[10:39] <xtknight> val__: um i dont know.  ndis wrapper extracts firmware from the windows ones so that in turn could be an update for linux
[10:39] <mharding> I have do that one
[10:40] <mharding> that is what I just did to get this far
[10:40] <karl> anyone know how to change the metric of my wireless interface so that the wired ethernet port gets chosen first?
[10:40] <arrenlex> daxxar: You can't. You'd have to install them under Wine.
[10:40] <karl> or alternately, why my wireless has metric 1 as well?
[10:40] <mharding> it says that my card is disconnected
[10:40] <daxxar> arrenlex, darn. :-(
[10:40] <n2diy> kejup: ah, another reason to avoid it. So you'll have to log in with recovery mode, or whatever it is called.
[10:40] <ogor> for some weeks "sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade" gives "0 packages ...".how is this possible?
[10:40] <NevroPus> is there any plugin I can use to make banshee play wma files?
[10:40] <xtknight> mharding: what do you mean?  are you going through the guide (removing bcm43xx), etc?
[10:41] <xtknight> NevroPus: probably the gstreamre good bad and ugly codec packs available in synaptic
[10:41] <xtknight> NevroPus: gstreamer*
[10:41] <val__> kejup i think i had that problem. try logging in as oem for the username and then your password
[10:41] <xtknight> ogor: there have been no updates
[10:41] <kejup> n2diy: Eh, I'd prefer to avoid hacks on a fresh install, I'd rather just reinstall, but I'm afraid it will just happen again.
[10:41] <nikin> how can i determine what port is my card plugged in? PCI:?:?:?
[10:41] <mharding> I did that guide before I got on to this channel
[10:41] <arrenlex> nikin: lspci
[10:41] <NevroPus> thanks xtknight
[10:41] <hjmills> nikin: lspci
[10:41] <xtknight> nikin: probably agp if ur having agpgart issues
[10:41] <mharding> what am I not doing right
[10:41] <nikin> but i dont get this format with lspci
[10:41] <n2diy> kejup: its not a hack, just resetting the password.
[10:42] <arrenlex> nikin: That's what the first column is.
[10:42] <xtknight> mharding: i'm not sure.  are you having trouble with the guide
[10:42] <ogor> xtknight: really? it's on a dapper installation.sometimes i got 20 new packages in a week.
[10:42] <mharding> nope
[10:42] <xtknight> ogor: same here, they all come at once but sometimes theres a drought
[10:42] <mharding> troble getting my card to work
[10:42] <arrenlex> nikin: See? em@sam:~$ lspci | grep -i audio
[10:42] <arrenlex> 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[10:42] <JayRoe> evening gents
[10:42] <ogor> xtknight : ok thanks :) i just thought it was strange.many thanks
[10:42] <arrenlex> nikin: i.e. PCI:00:11.5
[10:42] <kejup> val__: no go, I tried both "oem" and "OEM"
[10:43] <mharding> eth1 scans and brings up my wireless setting
[10:43] <xtknight> mharding: sorry i guess i dont understand what you are trying to do to get it operating now.  you got bcm43xx loaded but that won't do you any good because bcm43xx is not reliable for your particular model.  you have to go through that guide to remove it and install another driver instead
[10:43] <nikin> arrenlex i get: "03:00.0 VGA comp........" so that means PCI:3:0:0 ?
[10:43] <arrenlex> nikin: Yep.
[10:43] <Sleepy_|> how to change the starting day of the week from sunday to monday ?
[10:43] <xtknight> mharding: or did you already get finished with the guide and now are STILL having trouble?
[10:43] <nikin> ok ty
[10:44] <mharding> yes I am finished and still having trouble
[10:44] <Draiden> can I ask a question?
[10:44] <JayRoe> can someone tell me how I can use my maxtor one touch?
[10:44] <xenakis> network suddenly died. ifconfig returns absolutely nothing! Dapper.
[10:44] <val__> xtknight if i change a setting in boot options does linux automatically recognise the new hardware? it doesnt pop up and tell you there is new hardware, right/
[10:44] <xtknight> mharding: oh alright.  well bring up one terminal and type 'sudo iwevent' .  that will bring up a log
[10:44] <hamiii> I've an AR5001. The modules loaded fine. I can iwlist ath0 scan and see the access points but iwconfig ath0 ap any or by address does nothing. any ideas?
[10:44] <kejup> n2diy: yeah, but 1. it could be the username 2. whatever screwed up the password the first time might have screwed something else up too
[10:44] <disasm> well i think I got it working.... This is a crazy hack... I did a debian sarge minimal install and got a package list of all packages in the base install, i grep -v all those out of dpkg -l and | to cut -d' ' -f3 > source, then I edit source with vi (will probly write sed script to automate) and remove all line breaks and header, add in #!/bin/bash apt-get --purge remove <list of files>, then after that script is run, I remove the running kernel and initrd-to
[10:44] <xtknight> val__: setting in boot options? what do you mean... linux doesnt scream at you like windows does but you can see the hw detected at boot up in dmesg
[10:45] <n2diy> kejup: so reset them both.
[10:45] <arrenlex> !ask | Draiden
[10:45] <ubotu> Draiden: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:45] <xtknight> mharding: im afraid ill have to continue later, but all you should need to do now is make the wireless card access your access point (no pun intended0
[10:45] <xtknight> ./away
[10:45] <stiv2k> how do i get network-manager-gnome to show wireless networks with ndiswrapper?
[10:45] <val__> ok i havent checked that lately, but i really didnt know what i was lookng for in there
[10:45] <mharding> ah shit
[10:45] <Rydekull> So... What is it in ubuntu that would protect against this?. I have a binary that is setuid. But for some reason it wont let itself be called from another program. If I try it on debian/slackware for example it works fine.
[10:45] <disasm> thanks to all for telling me this was a crazy idea and I should just reinstall ;-) that helped me come up with this hairbrained scheme...
[10:45] <arrenlex> !ohmy | mharding
[10:45] <ubotu> mharding: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:45] <mharding> sorry
[10:46] <Rydekull> selinux is disabled
[10:46] <val__> xtknight, i meant in dmesg i didnt know to check that
[10:46] <MarcN> Which is better for getting mail from MS Exchange -- imapcopy or imapsync?   I'd like to use offlineimap, but it has issues with Exchange.  Comments?
[10:46] <xaaax> ~how can i change my terminal background color to white and text to black?
[10:46] <arrenlex> disasm: harebrained. =P
[10:46] <JayRoe> how do I enable vfat in ubuntu?
[10:46] <mharding> how to use ndiswrapper
[10:46] <noldon> hi i need help
[10:46] <noldon> one of the partition on my harddrive have dissapeard
[10:46] <disasm> arrenlex: yeah, waht you said ;-)
[10:46] <svish> alright!! I make'd a program! so... what is automake and these someone mentioned up here somewhere? are they easier? simpler? faster? or something?
[10:46] <arrenlex> JayRoe: It's included in the kernel. Just mount a partition as vfat
[10:47] <stiv2k> how do i get network-manager-gnome to correctly show wireless networks if i have ndiswrapper (and a broadcom chipset)?
[10:47] <JayRoe> arrenlex, I've tried with my maxtor one touch but it doesn't mount it
[10:47] <arrenlex> !doesn't work | JayRoe
[10:47] <ubotu> JayRoe: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[10:47] <disasm> arrenlex: sorry, 5 debian installs later staring at a monitor with dist-upgrades, my head hurts to much to type grammatically ;-)
[10:47] <n2diy> xaaax: right click on it, and edit current profile.
[10:47] <svish> !make | svish
[10:47] <ubotu> svish: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:47] <kejup> n2diy: I don't know everything done during an ubuntu installation and I'm not comfortable with manually overriding it. Sure, 9/10 little hacks like you are suggesting work, but every once in a while they foobar some special script in the distro which ends up screwing up your upgrade a year down the road.
[10:47] <backz> Hi, I'm trying to boot Ubuntu 6.06 LTS on a Mac mini machine, what must I press to force this machine boot my ubuntu from cd and dont boot Mac OS X from HD?
[10:47] <svish> !automake | svish
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <xaaax> n2diy: I'm not running X
[10:48] <disasm> backz apple c
[10:48] <backz> disasm, ok... I'm gonna try
[10:48] <n2diy> kejup: do what ever you want, my 'hack" involves on command.
[10:48] <JayRoe> I have a Maxtor One Touch II and for some reason I'm not able to mount it in Ubuntu, but it does show up in devices.
[10:48] <gr0k3m> anyone know the diff between setting up subversion in a 'sites-enabled' file vs putting the config in dav_svn.conf ?
[10:48] <kejup> does anyone know when/why Edgy is screwing up the initial login?
[10:48] <n2diy> on/one
[10:48] <val__> kejup check caps lock/num lock
[10:48] <n2diy> xaaax: don't know, good luck.
[10:48] <oidia> i cant seam to get the ioquake installatin to work..
[10:49] <arrenlex> JayRoe: Oh, the GUI. Sorry, can't help you there... I'm a command line person.
[10:49] <stiv2k> how do i get network-manager-gnome to correctly show wireless networks if i have ndiswrapper (and a broadcom chipset)?
[10:49] <disasm> JayRoe: i'm not much one for gui stuff, but the multi-user cli way of doing things, is to add to /etc/fstab and set auto
[10:49] <nikin> where can i find the hotplug blacklist in Edgy?
[10:49] <val__> so for ndiswrapper, should i use the latest driver for windows that hp has available?
[10:50] <Rydekull> Hrm, im going to try and rephrase: I have a setuid binary, that is called upon from another program. This fails dramatically. When executed directly it'll work. I've tried the same under debian/slackware which works fine. So, there must be something in ubuntu protecting against this. Any idea of what? (SELinux is disabled)
[10:50] <val__> ie it is more recent than what i have installed on windoze
[10:50] <JayRoe> arrenlex and disasm I read on ubuntuforums that people were having similar problems as mine and that it was cause by vfat not being present in /proc/filesystems.
[10:50] <kejup> n2diy: and how do you know that command doesn't circumvent some other initialization that was supposed to be performed by the ubuntu install? Something is borked with the Edgy install, I'd like to figure out what it is instead of working around it.
[10:51] <Sleepy_|> how to change the starting day of the week from sunday to monday  in the gnome clock?
[10:51] <n2diy> kejup: why would adduser and passwd do that?
[10:51] <backz> disasm, Must I press apple + c after or before apple logo show on screen?
[10:51] <arrenlex> JayRoe: What's the output of "grep vfat /proc/filesystems  | wc -l"?
[10:52] <n2diy> kejup: do what ever you want.
[10:52] <JayRoe> arrenlex "0"
[10:52] <blackfenix> hello and help me
[10:52] <arrenlex> JayRoe: Weird. It's not there.
[10:52] <nikin> !hotplug
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <arrenlex> JayRoe: Well, I don't even run ubuntu, so I dunno... good luck! xD
[10:52] <stiv2k> how do i get network-manager-gnome to correctly show wireless networks if i have ndiswrapper (and a broadcom chipset)?
[10:53] <kejup> n2diy: there could be some installtion script that first generates the username/pass and then does something else. If it failed to generate the username it probably didn't do the something else. If I generate the username manually then it still won't do the something else.
[10:53] <JayRoe> arrenlex is it possible to save changes to filesystems or it a dynamic list?
[10:54] <n2diy> kejup: could be?
[10:54] <Peebo> !thunderbird
[10:54] <nikin> what does edgy use if not hotplug, and how can i blacklist modules in edgy?
[10:54] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[10:54] <foobarian> JayRoe, what filesystems, /etc/fstab?
[10:54] <Peebo> !FOSS
[10:54] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[10:54] <burner> nikin: udev is used instead of hotplug?
[10:55] <kejup> n2diy: yeah, could be......and I don't want to find out 4 months from now when I try to install/upgrading something and my whole system gets borked because of the missing "something else".
[10:55] <karl> what manages the automatic network config when cables are plugged in and unplugged?
[10:55] <JayRoe> foobarian /proc/filesystems
[10:55] <kejup> has anyone used the automatic keyboard detection?
[10:55] <[g2] > i've debootstrapped xubuntu-desktop (there's no CD drive on the system it's a laptop).  How do I add the user to all allow adminsitration ?
[10:55] <nnacht> hi anybody uses Cisco VPN Client under edgy?
[10:56] <n2diy> kejup: so then why are you playing with Edgy in the first place, Dapper is the stable LTS version.
[10:56] <Peebo> sudo -i gives you a root console
[10:56] <kejup> do you say yes or no for the double quote character on the automatic keyboard detection? I said yes, but I'm not absolutely sure that is the right answer.
[10:56] <kejup> n2diy: I'm a glutten for punishment :)
[10:56] <n2diy> kejup: well, your getting it! :)
[10:57] <Peebo> Do cisco make it for Linux
[10:57] <nikin> burner: can you tell me how can i blacklist modules in udev?
[10:57] <nnacht> Peedo, yes there is a linux version, but I have problem with compiling the module, it works under dapper
[10:58] <Peebo> Only ever used the Windoze version. Don't plan on connecting to any more Cisco boxes.
[10:58] <iratik> where can i get information on a package?
[10:58] <JayRoe> foobarian can you tell me if the /proc/filesystems is a dynamic list or if it's something I can edit and save?
[10:58] <hamiii> If I iwconfig ath0 ap address and then iwconfig ath0 there is no access point associated, but iwlist scan shows the 3 access points. The card is Atheros 5212
[10:59] <nnacht> peebo, yeah, but the uni uses only cisco
[10:59] <n2diy> iratik: click on system/admin/synaptic, and then search for your package.
[10:59] <Peebo> U awake burepe ?
[10:59] <iratik> n2diy : i mean on the web.. i'm running 6.10 server
[10:59] <nnacht> Or does somebody use vpnc?
[10:59] <matt5> hi, I'm downloading ubuntu via bittorrent. My connection is slow - I'm about 60% done, I'm thinking to download rest at my university. .. but I'll have a different ip, bittorrent won't have too many problems with that, right? :s
[10:59] <Peebo> Yeah I might try it, is it available from the Cisco web site
[10:59] <n2diy> iratik: google for it?
[11:00] <iratik> i guess i could do "ubuntu egroupware"
[11:00] <ToHellWithGA> hi james
[11:00] <james> hello!
[11:00] <Peebo> !groupware
[11:00] <nalioth> hi james
[11:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about groupware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:00] <n2diy> iratik: worth a try.
[11:00] <james> hi can any-one here help a noob with a install error seemingly not found on the web
[11:00] <iratik> thanks
[11:00] <PriceChild> hey james, you made it! :)
[11:00] <ToHellWithGA> james: if you describe your problem in here folks can help you with 6.10
[11:00] <Peebo> !egroupware
[11:00] <ubotu> egroupware: web-based groupware suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-105.dfsg-1 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB
[11:00] <PriceChild> !anyone | james
[11:01] <ubotu> james: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:01] <james> ownloaded latest ubuntu (6.10) to install on my old windows machine... It's a pentium 3 3GHz 512mb thing and when i try to install i can boot and select the installation process
[11:01] <JayRoe> Can someone tell me how I add vfat to the list in /proc/filesystems?
[11:01] <matt5> ok, whoever answers my questions gets a kiss from me. gogogo
[11:01] <james> however after this i simply get the ubntu loading bar and then a few white flashes before a small black x arrives
[11:01] <james> [21:55]  <ToHellWithGA> this channel supports 7.04, the pre-release version
[11:01] <burepe> peebo yaeh
[11:01] <james> however after this i simply get the ubntu loading bar and then a few white flashes before a small black x arrives
[11:01] <james> i can;t find any help with this anywere else?
[11:02] <james> any suggestions?
[11:02] <strabes> james: happened to me a few times - restart your computer and try it a couple more times
[11:02] <Peebo> Just a quick drop in before breakfast BBL, I'm hungry
[11:02] <n2diy> james: that sounds like a normal boot to me.
[11:02] <strabes> james: you can also hit ctrl+c when it freezes i believe
[11:02] <james> lol tried doing that a couple of times, thought it was the disk at first
[11:02] <strabes> james: did you check the disk for defects?
[11:02] <james> so the white X on the black screen of death is a normal thing?
[11:03] <james> yea, i downloaded 2 copies from different sources on 3 disks lol
[11:03] <n2diy> james: that is your cursor/mouse loading.
[11:04] <cokewithlime> Could anyone help with a dual-boot problem with Ubuntu?
[11:04] <james> it seems to stay on the screen forever (left it thinking it was loading for up to an hour)
[11:04] <james> i can;t move it either
[11:04] <[g2] > cokewithlime what are you dual-booting ?
[11:04] <cokewithlime> Windows XP and Ubuntu
[11:04] <n2diy> james: for an hour, ok, it is locked up.
[11:04] <james> the funny thing is i can install Kubuntu (running it now tlking to u guys)
[11:05] <[g2] > cokewithlime that should be pretty straight forward no ?
[11:05] <cokewithlime> well it was
[11:05] <james> that proccess ran straight thru no probs
[11:05] <[g2] > are you running on a Duo Core 2 ?
[11:05] <cokewithlime> negative
[11:05] <n2diy> james: so it sounds like a Gnome problem, Kubuntu uses KDE.
[11:05] <MAJKU-MU> does somebody maybe know what does this means : insmod: error inserting './Iinsmod: error inserting './Intel537.ko': -1 Operation not permitted , I do this from rootntel537.ko': -1 Operation not permitted
[11:05] <james> i never selected which GUI?
[11:05] <[g2] > cokewithlime so what's the "it was" part
[11:06] <n2diy> james: Ubuntu defaults to Gnome.
[11:06] <james> can i change it?
[11:06] <Peebo> Gnome rules why change
[11:06] <hmsteiner> hidihooo
[11:06] <n2diy> james:yes, install Kubuntu. :)
[11:07] <james> i was intending to install the LAMP (hence wanting the insall ubuntu)
[11:07] <Peebo> KDugly sucks :-P
[11:07] <cokewithlime> I installed Ubuntu and it ran fine, I beleive the boot program is grub (sorry I am linux newbie), and I could boot either windows or ubuntu fine, then I tried booting windows at a later time and it wouldnt let me so I had to do a recover, now it does not prompt me for which OS I want to boot, instead booting directly to windows, I dont wont to re-install ubuntu if I dont have to as I already had it configured for me nicely, any advice?
[11:07] <regeya> KDugly.  How clever.
[11:07] <hmsteiner> can anybody help me with "wlan interface issues"? =)
[11:07] <n2diy> ! LAMP
[11:07] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:07] <regeya> Gnobloat
[11:07] <feg> hello. on my pc, rhythmbox doesn't start when i try to open files in nautilus. it starts only the second time i try to open the same [mp3|ogg|wav]  file. why?
[11:07] <alecjw> hi. i have a quick question. where's my super key?
[11:07] <regeya> Gnombloat
[11:08] <james> i know what lamp is
[11:08] <ToHellWithGA> james: if you have kubuntu working you could apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:08] <james> i've done servers before, just never linux
[11:08] <Rydekull> I have a setuid binary, that is called upon from another program. This fails dramatically. When executed directly it'll work. I've tried the same under debian/slackware which works fine. So, there must be something in ubuntu protecting against this. Any idea of what? (SELinux is disabled)
[11:08] <n2diy> james: I'm glad you do, I didn't! LAMP shouldn't care whether Gnome or KDE is running.
[11:08] <james> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[11:09] <alecjw> james: yeah, but sudo it. and i reccomend aptitude rather than apt-get
[11:09] <james> lol it just seems a nice easy way instaed of downloading all these things invidually
[11:09] <karl> anyone know how to set one network interface to be primary?
[11:09] <alecjw> so does anyone know where my super key is?
[11:09] <karl> I want to use my wired ethernet when it's plugged in, not th eflaky wireless
[11:10] <ToHellWithGA> james: yeah, if you open a terminal and "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" it should get all of the stuff for ubuntu
[11:10] <james> whats that mean (sorry total linux noob... i spent about 2 hours this afternoon trying to run it in dos mode lol)
[11:10] <n2diy> ! kubuntu | james
[11:10] <svish> um... there are 4 versions of automake in synaptics. which one do I choose? I would guess the latest one, but it says something about failing to work in a number of situations in all but the earliest one??
[11:10] <ubotu> james: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[11:10] <ToHellWithGA> james: unless the overlap between kubuntu and ubuntu is nastily incompatible, you should be able to use either window manager
[11:11] <mharding> how can I check if my nvidia drivers are installed right
[11:11] <rance> james: you can use both window managers (not at the same time of course, they can be installed next to each other no problem
[11:11] <alecjw> !superkey
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about superkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <alecjw> !super
[11:11] <karl> svish: go with the default, 1.4, but you'll end up with more than one installed at some point
[11:11] <ubotu> super: Execute commands setuid root. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.26.1-1 (edgy), package size 122 kB, installed size 852 kB
[11:11] <james> i get an error : E: couldn;t find package Ubuntu-desktop
[11:11] <alecjw> damn
[11:11] <karl> svish: update-alternatives automake is a useful tool
[11:12] <bruenig> james, ubuntu-desktop not Ubuntu-desktop
[11:12] <alecjw> james: you sudo aptitude update'ed lately?
 insmod is for adding a module to a running kernal and intel 537 is a modem chip, are you trying to install a new soft modem??
[11:12] <Toran> How can I make my many-buttoned mouse's extra buttons work in a game such as Enemey Territory?
[11:12] <svish> karl: what is the differences?
[11:12] <rance> alecjw: what is your porblem, you don't need a root password
[11:12] <alecjw> james: oh yeah, and it's case sensititve
[11:12] <svish> karl: what is update-alternatives automake?
[11:12] <xtknight> Toran: you may have to map the mouse buttons to keys and then bind the keys under ET
[11:12] <james> yea thats wat i did (all lowercase ... sorry)
[11:12] <karl> svish: well, if you just say, "install automake" you'll get 1.4, and it will mostly work just fine
[11:12] <karl> if you find something that doesn't
[11:12] <karl> you install a newer one :)
[11:12] <xtknight> Toran: as to how to map them to keys, i have no idea but theres a logitec hguide
[11:12] <karl> update-alternatives is a neat shell script that gives you a little menu to choose what is the default
[11:12] <james> never updated sudo-appditude no idea what it is lol
[11:12] <alecjw> rance: ? sorry, have'n a clue what you're taling about :D
[11:13] <karl> for various apps (automake being one of them)
[11:13] <Toran> woops, sorry, didn't mean to PM, xtknight
[11:13] <svish> karl: oh
[11:13] <Toran> I don't know why it doesn't work
[11:13] <rance> thats ok, ive been watching the bot whispers about super
[11:13] <rance> seemed to be coming from you
[11:13] <Toran> I think the game gets its input differently than, say, my desktop
[11:13] <xtknight> Toran: um so when you press one of the extra keys at the desktop in a text box what happens
[11:13] <n2diy> ! enter | rance
[11:13] <ubotu> rance: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:13] <Toran> xtknight: It puts the text in
[11:13] <xtknight> Toran: yet when u bind it in ET it doesn't work?
[11:14] <Toran> That is correct
[11:14] <Toran> it doesn't bind it to anything
[11:14] <Toran> ET doesn't think any button's been pushed
[11:14] <xtknight> Toran: odd.  what happens if you pull down the console in ET and then pres it
[11:14] <james> hello?
[11:14] <rance> I didnt press enter in my message, apparently my chat client is doing that on my behalf
[11:14] <Toran> Didn't try that
[11:15] <Toran> At any rate, I don't want those mouse buttons bound to keys when I'm not in the gam
[11:15] <Toran> e
[11:15] <Toran> and ET won't sense modifier+key combinations
[11:15] <Toran> much less single-letter ones
[11:15] <xtknight> Toran: yeah, well i have no clue.  you could map the buttons to something beyond ASCII
[11:15] <toM|vendettA> in windows when i click down my scroll wheel, it brings up a little arrow/scroller thing that lets me scroll around the window my moving the mouse, is this possible in ubuntu
[11:16] <james> OK... anyone know how i can install LAMP in Kubuntu
[11:16] <bruenig> toM|vendettA, it depends on the application, in firefox it will work but in xchat it won't so application by application
[11:16] <cablesm102> no. Unix OS's use the middle button for other things
[11:16] <cablesm102> but really depends on the app
[11:16] <cablesm102> usually it's used to paste
[11:16] <bruenig> cablesm102, it can be used to paste and scroll
[11:16] <n2diy> james: the same way you would in ubuntu.
[11:17] <bruenig> they are exclusionary
[11:17] <toM|vendettA> =| it doesnt work in firefox
[11:17] <bruenig> not*
[11:17] <xtknight> !lamp | james
[11:17] <ubotu> james: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:17] <computermc> what can I do to fix the bug that makes mysql-admin freeze/lock up when I try to administer the users?
[11:17] <bruenig> toM|vendettA, yeah that is a problem, there is something wrong with your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:17] <toM|vendettA> oh. maybe its cause i have a razer copperhead?
[11:18] <bruenig> hmmmm, those are poisonous
[11:18] <toM|vendettA> yeah :P
[11:18] <toM|vendettA> um another thing, this was happening on my microsoft intellimouse too
[11:18] <Admiral_Buttercr> Does anyone know why most Linux apps off of the web, i.e. Teamspeak won't install (open)?
[11:18] <ikonia> computermc: you cant its a bug
[11:18] <bruenig> Admiral_Buttercr, define "linxu app off the web"
[11:18] <aoupi> toM|vendettA: the firefox thing, make sure autoscrolling is enabled prefs->advanced->general
[11:18] <ikonia> Admiral_Buttercr: they do - teamspeak is in rpm format I think
[11:18] <toM|vendettA> kk aoupi
[11:19] <stapel> Hi, my Tomboy icon has disappeared! Tomboy is still running though, because if I press ALT+F12 it pops up, but the icon is missing...any ideas?
[11:19] <computermc> ikonia: what admin program should I use, instead of phpmyadmin?
[11:19] <ikonia> your choice
[11:19] <ikonia> I don't use one
[11:19] <toM|vendettA> ah ty aoupi
[11:19] <bruenig> stapel, right click on the panel, add to panel, find tomboy and add it
[11:19] <Admiral_Buttercr> bruenig, I was downloading Teamspeak from www.goteamspeak.com, and it says it cant read it or something. The package manager has a bunch of languages to choose from like Unicode-UTF8
[11:20] <ikonia> Admiral_Buttercr: get the exact message
[11:20] <Admiral_Buttercr> k
[11:20] <toM|vendettA> when i press the left mouse button, and the right mouse button my computer takes that to mean scroll wheel click. so in games if i press mouse1 (left mouse/shoot) and mouse2 (right mouse/jump) it will not do either of them and it will do mouse3 (scroll click/throw grenade)
[11:20] <toM|vendettA> is there anyway i can stop this?
[11:20] <bruenig> Admiral_Buttercr, those are tarballs, you have to extract and compile
[11:20] <ikonia> what a dick
[11:21] <bruenig> hmmm
[11:21] <aoupi> toM|vendettA: in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf find Emulate3Buttons change true to false
[11:21] <Admiral_Buttercr> tar.bz2?
[11:21] <MAJKU-MU> < ConvertOne > yes, I am trying to install soft modem
[11:21] <mharding> how do I test my nvidia card
[11:21] <bruenig> Admiral_Buttercr, right, that is a tarball
[11:21] <roniez> When i try to change the resporites or the source.list in etc/apt/ with sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list i get "timestamp to far in future"
[11:21] <bruenig> Admiral_Buttercr, open up a terminal, and then cd to wherever it is
[11:21] <Admiral_Buttercr> bruenig, could you bring me up to speed on how to handle them?
[11:22] <ikonia> roniez: your clock is sweced
[11:22] <Admiral_Buttercr> k
[11:22] <ikonia> Admiral_Buttercr: read the docs
[11:22] <bruenig> Admiral_Buttercr, right, "cd whatever" then do tar xf ts2_client_rc2_2032.tar.bz2
[11:22] <roniez> ikonia: but shoulnt it be put to sweden when i am sitting there?
[11:22] <stapel> bruenig: You make me look stoopid...but rightly so! Thanks, it worked.
[11:22] <BTR> Is there any place where i can get the Drivers for Intel Corporation 82852/855GM vga card?
[11:22] <ikonia> roniez: what ?
[11:22] <Mazus> hmm
[11:22] <Mazus> anyone running mythtv?
[11:23] <ikonia> Mazus: yes
[11:23] <bruenig> Admiral_Buttercr, then do cd ts2_client_rc2_2032/
[11:23] <Mazus> you using tv-out?
[11:23] <Mazus> * ikonia
[11:23] <ikonia> yes
[11:23] <ikonia> no
[11:23] <ikonia> sorry
[11:23] <ikonia> dvi
[11:23] <toM|vendettA> ty for that aoupi
[11:23] <Mazus> hmm
[11:23] <bruenig> Admiral_Buttercr, then do ./setup.sh
[11:23] <Mazus> i get a blue screen on my tv and the actual livetv is playing on my monitor
[11:24] <claudio-> Hi--I'm trying to setup Xen on dapper, following the wiki instructions. everything works fine (using their kernel, for which i built an initrd image) except /dev/hdb1 (my /home) will not mount. Has anyone found a fix for this?
[11:24] <Mazus> any ideas what would cause this?
[11:24] <blanky> hey guys, in ssh how can i configure it so it doesnt kick me if im idle for a while
[11:24] <ikonia> Mazus: re-configure X
[11:24] <blanky> i mean, disconnect
[11:24] <ramvi> Hi there! I'm not allowed to run a script for some reason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/383/ What do I do?
[11:24] <ikonia> its using the wrong card output
[11:24] <aoupi> toM|vendettA: no problem, you will have to restart the xserver for the change to apply (ctrl+alt+backspace) (all you running apps will quit and you'll come to the login screen)
[11:24] <blanky> ramvi: sudo sh yourscript ?
[11:24] <x1alpha> Is there any way to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 without having to reinstall ? thanks
[11:24] <ikonia> ramvi: make it executable
[11:24] <Mazus> ikonia thanks alot
[11:24] <Mazus> ill look into it
[11:25] <ActivE> When trying to access computers on my network that are running xp somtimes get an error "the location is not a folder". Usually after this is fixes and the icon changes back to normal and i can access the computers shares. Any ideas what might cause this?
[11:25] <johns^> x1alpha: use the update manager
[11:26] <bruenig> !upgrade
[11:26] <PhatHippoBot> bruenig: Error: "upgrade" is not a valid command.
[11:26] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:26] <Admiral_Buttercr> bruenig, how do i get to the desktop in terminal?
[11:26] <johns^> Admiral_Buttercr: cd ~/Desktop
[11:26] <ryanakca> how do I fix http://pastebin.ca/303034 ? (it's only been happening since I've been using gpg-agent...)
[11:26] <Admiral_Buttercr> johns, thanks
[11:27] <johns^> np
[11:27] <bruenig> Admiral_Buttercr, teamspeak can apparently be installed with a gui. So says the readme
[11:27] <Admiral_Buttercr> hmmm
[11:27] <Admiral_Buttercr> archive manager?
[11:27] <ikonia> Admiral_Buttercr: read the docs on https://wiki.ubuntu.com
 Where are things going wrong?? Installing or Using???
[11:27] <bruenig> Admiral_Buttercr, which one did you get, the client or the server?
[11:27] <Admiral_Buttercr> bruenig, client
[11:28] <johns^> Admiral_Buttercr: a .bz2 file yes?
[11:28] <bruenig> Admiral_Buttercr, ok right click on the tar.bz2, then click extract here. Then open up the folder, and double click on setup.sh
[11:28] <ikonia> or read the docs
[11:29] <Admiral_Buttercr> run in terminal?
[11:29] <bruenig> Admiral_Buttercr, no
[11:29] <Admiral_Buttercr> display
[11:29] <bruenig> Admiral_Buttercr, the readme, says that you should be able to do it by gui
[11:29] <Admiral_Buttercr> or run?
[11:29] <protocol1> what is the name of the program in Ubuntu that detects the extra buttons on my laptop?
[11:29] <bruenig> it says to launch setup.sh
[11:29] <Admiral_Buttercr> so run?
[11:29] <ikonia> read the docs you lazy son of a
[11:29] <Admiral_Buttercr> ikonia, shut your hole
[11:29] <bruenig> Admiral_Buttercr, double click it, that should work
[11:29] <ikonia> just read the docs
[11:30] <ikonia> why do you need it spoon fed to you
[11:30] <aoupi> protocol1: pbbuttons I think, but I'm not sure
[11:30] <Admiral_Buttercr> bruenig, it gives me options
[11:30] <protocol1> ok
[11:30] <bruenig> ikonia, execute
[11:30] <bruenig> Admiral_Buttercr, execute
[11:30] <ryanakca> how do I fix http://pastebin.ca/303034 ? (it's only been happening since I've been using gpg-agent...)
[11:30] <Admiral_Buttercr> shibby
[11:30] <bruenig> Admiral_Buttercr, when I double click it I get a little install shield wizard looking thing
[11:30] <Admiral_Buttercr> i was trying to do it in archive manager
[11:31] <Admiral_Buttercr> yeah
[11:31] <Admiral_Buttercr> i got it too
[11:31] <Admiral_Buttercr> thnks
[11:31] <bruenig> Admiral_Buttercr, archive manager archives and unarchives that is it
[11:31] <protocol1> aoupi, you mean pbbuttonsd right?
[11:31] <MAJKU-MU> < ConvertOne > now, I installed modem driver and loaded and I get this : message from syslogd@alejak-desktop-at Wed Jan 3 23:17 2007 ... # alejak-desktop kernel: [17182397.952000]  Disabling IRQ #201
[11:31] <aoupi> protocol1: I'm not sure but that sounds right :)
[11:32] <protocol1> ok thx
[11:32] <atomusk> hello
[11:32] <ramvi> blanky, I get a new error when using sudo sh azureus
[11:32] <Admiral_Buttercr> bruenig, thanks for your help. it makes sense now
[11:32] <ramvi> blanky, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/384/
[11:32] <ikonia> ramvi: make it executable
[11:32] <blanky> ramvi: what are you trying to do?
[11:32] <ikonia> thats just bad scripting
[11:32] <ramvi> ikonia, thanks!
[11:33] <atomusk> my sound just stoped working all of a sudden
[11:33] <blanky> ramvi: is it a script or a program
[11:33] <violot> How do I change the default startup applications in Xfce?
[11:33] <blanky> ramvi:  chmod +x azureus
[11:33] <atomusk> but it works for other users accounts
[11:33] <blanky> ramvi: ./azureus
[11:33] <aoupi> violot: menu->Settings->autostarted something
[11:33] <violot> All my Gnome ones start even though I unchecked the box
[11:33] <kandinski> I have changed moved the cards around in my desktop, and I think tvtime does not find the tv card now: how do I make dapper to rescan the hardware?
[11:34] <Admiral_Buttercr> Does anyone know where i can get a good walkthrough on using the terminal?
[11:35] <ramvi> blanky, thanks :)
[11:35] <aoupi> Admiral_Buttercr: http://linuxcommand.org/
[11:35] <Admiral_Buttercr> aoupi, thanks
[11:35] <atomusk> my sound stoped working
[11:35] <atomusk> but it works on other accounts
Have a read of this (hhtps://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto), and if evrything is correct get back to me....
[11:37] <aoupi> atomusk: run 'groups' then run 'groups user_sound_works_for' is the other user in the audio group but not you?
[11:37] <admin___> so i got a question hope someone can help me out i have searched the forums and cant find anything
Going on ET for a bit, so give me 30mins or so... Or try adminATdalley-webDOTorgDOTuk
[11:38] <MAJKU-MU> ConvertOne no problem , thanks
[11:38] <admin___> i have mplaer with the firefox plugin but when i try and play wmv files like www.mlgpro.com it dls buffers after the buffer it says playing then after it says that goes back to dling/buffering and repeats 4 times b4 it says stoped
[11:39] <atomusk> thank aoupi
[11:40] <arkygeek> hi.  any instructions for loading ubuntu onto an imac 350 slot load computer?
[11:40] <simp> can someone give me the stuff about swap from fstab?
[11:41] <aoupi> arkygeek: yea, how far have you come?
[11:42] <PWizard> greetings.  Any syslinux gurus in here?
[11:42] <oidia> i get: /usr/local/games/ioquake3/ioquake3recursive error after: User Interface is version 3, expected 6recursive error after: User Interface is version 3, expected 6recursive error after: User Interface is version 3, expected 6recursive error after: User Interface is version 3, expected 6Sys_Error: recursive error after: User Interface is version 3, expected 6Sys_Error: recursive error after: User Interface is version 3, expected 6recursive error a
[11:42] <arkygeek> aoupi: havent done a thing yet.
[11:42] <aoupi> arkygeek: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=300122&page=3
[11:42] <oidia> when trying to run ioquake, sorry it only shows ones..
[11:42] <arkygeek> thanks man!
[11:43] <aoupi> arkygeek: I had a bit of problem intsalling, but that sollution worked for me
[11:44] <arkygeek> aoupi: how is performance with ubuntu compared to os9?
[11:44] <bosozoku> d.net
[11:44] <oidia> Sys_Error: recursive error after: User Interface is version 3, expected 6, when installing ioquake, any ideas?
[11:44] <aoupi> arkygeek: with ubuntu it's problably not much better, but with xubuntu it is noticably faster
[11:45] <aoupi> arkygeek: my clock battery was dead soo I had to set the date before I could run the installer (if you get some crazy error when running the installer try setting the date)
[11:45] <nikin> where can i find the rc.conf file?
[11:45] <NChief> How can I play .asf files?? I get sound, but no picture...
[11:46] <MarcN> arkygeek: os9 as the real time kernel?
[11:46] <svish> !xbindkeys
[11:46] <PhatHippoBot> svish: Error: "xbindkeys" is not a valid command.
[11:46] <ubotu> xbindkeys: Associate a combination of keys or mouse buttons with a shell command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 148 kB
[11:46] <Nippoo> hrm. I'm getting "ls: reading directory .: Input/output error" errors every time I try to read certain (really important) directories.
[11:46] <SpacePuppy> lol has anybody tried this under Ubuntu? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_Skinny_Elephants_Is_Utterly_Boring
[11:46] <nikin> !rc.conf
[11:46] <PhatHippoBot> nikin: Error: "rc.conf" is not a valid command.
[11:46] <Nippoo> Can anyone advise?
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rc.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <arkygeek> MarcN: ummm, dont know (???)
[11:46] <svish> PhatHippoBot: yes t is?
[11:46] <PhatHippoBot> svish: Error: "yes" is not a valid command.
[11:46] <svish> oooh keey...
[11:47] <Admiral_Buttercr> Please tell me someone here is experienced with having Linux and Windows XP on one machine, I have a SERIOUS problem!
[11:47] <svish> Could someone help me get started with xbindkeys?
[11:47] <ikonia> yes I have both on my laptop
[11:47] <Nippoo> !ask | Admiral_Buttercr
[11:47] <PhatHippoBot> Nippoo: Error: "ask" is not a valid command.
[11:47] <ubotu> Admiral_Buttercr: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:47] <svish> I have installed it with synaptics and made the .xbindkeysrc. but how do I use it?
[11:47] <aoupi> PhatHippoBot: ls
[11:47] <PhatHippoBot> aoupi: Error: "ls" is not a valid command.
[11:47] <Admiral_Buttercr> ...
[11:47] <wheelswitch> im running drapper, any way i can allow writing to nfts?
[11:47] <wheelswitch> !nfts
[11:47] <PhatHippoBot> wheelswitch: Error: "nfts" is not a valid command.
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nfts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <wheelswitch> !ntfs
[11:48] <PhatHippoBot> wheelswitch: Error: "ntfs" is not a valid command.
[11:48] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:48] <ikonia> could an op kick PhatHippoBot
[11:48] <aoupi> uhm can someone please take away the phathippobot?
[11:48] <ikonia> we don't need two bots
[11:48] <Flannel> !ops
[11:48] <PhatHippoBot> Flannel: Error: "ops" is not a valid command.
[11:48] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[11:48] <jbroome> 'tardbot!
[11:48] <svish> !winkey | svish
[11:48] <PhatHippoBot> svish: Error: "winkey" is not a valid command.
[11:48] <ubotu> svish: To use the windows key in keyboard shortcuts as a modifier (like ALT): Run 'xmodmap' and see what Super_L corresponds to.  Then follow method B at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560 and use <mod4> (or whatever Super_L corresponded to with 'xmodmap') as the modifier. For example, a shortcut to use windows key + d would look like '<mod4>d'
[11:49] <ikonia> !kick PhatHippoBot
[11:49] <PhatHippoBot> ikonia: Error: You don't have the #ubuntu,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
[11:49] <Admiral_Buttercr> My Windows XP will get right before the blue welcome screen, ill have a black screen with cursor, and Linux is going to Busybox or some thing. it says /bin/sh:can't access tty; job control turned off
[11:49] <Seveas> which moron put that bot in here?
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> what on earth..
[11:49] <wheelswitch> !ntfs-3g
[11:49] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:49] <ikonia> Admiral_Buttercr: you've borked your install
[11:49] <wheelswitch> !fuse
[11:49] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[11:49] <ikonia> don't know what you've installed with busy box
[11:49] <Mazin> !ntfs
[11:49] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:50] <Admiral_Buttercr> borked?
[11:50] <Mazin> !beryl
[11:50] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:50] <ikonia> but once grub has started booting windows its impossible to start loading linux
[11:50] <Nippoo> I'm getting "ls: reading directory .: Input/output error" errors every time I try to read certain (really important) directories. Can anyone help on how to recover them?
[11:50] <superm1_> hey guys, i've been running into some major instabilities with a new motherboard and processor that i just picked up from newegg.  I'll get kernel oops's left and right with edgy.  Could someone point me to some help in identifying if i've got a bad board or bad bios options or whats going on here? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/389/
[11:50] <ikonia> superm1_: whats the processor
[11:51] <superm1_> AMD 64 3800+
[11:51] <ikonia> whats the disk controller
[11:51] <hjmills> superm1_: skt 939 or am2?
[11:51] <superm1_> 939
[11:51] <Nippoo> hahah.
[11:51] <superm1_> its a biostar NF4st-a9 board
[11:51] <hjmills> superm1_: join the club.... :D
[11:51] <superm1_> nforce 4
[11:51] <Nippoo> I was wondering why !ask wasn't a valid command.
[11:52] <Admiral_Buttercr> what is busybox>?
[11:52] <superm1_> hjmills, really...... well i'm wondering if i should just send it back to newegg
[11:52] <ikonia> superm1_: that looks like a laptop for for some reason
[11:52] <ikonia> Admiral_Buttercr: a linux environment
[11:52] <hjmills> Nippoo: what files/folders
[11:52] <Admiral_Buttercr> ikonia, like command prompt
[11:52] <Nippoo> hjmills: some documents on /dev/sda3
[11:52] <ikonia> no
[11:52] <ikonia> a linux environment
[11:52] <superm1_> ikonia, for sure a desktop board
[11:52] <Nippoo> (mounted to /media/sda3)
[11:52] <Ranbee> hi, does anyone know how to make gedit open a file with an english charactor set? i have a file it's opening with chinese charactors when it should be in english! other text editors open it correctly.
[11:52] <hjmills> Admiral_Buttercr: a linux window manager like metacity
[11:53] <Admiral_Buttercr> ikonia, any way to get to Ubunutu?
[11:53] <Nippoo> the folder is /media/sda3/Max/
[11:53] <superm1_> hjmills, i had better luck with the bios update they provided, but this thing is just a mess to be using right now
[11:53] <hjmills> Admiral_Buttercr: its better for older pcs
[11:53] <ikonia> Admiral_Buttercr: do you not get the grub prompt when you first power on
[11:53] <hjmills> superm1_: i would say its more likely to be the mobo
[11:53] <Admiral_Buttercr> yes i do
[11:53] <ikonia> superm1_: have you ran a media check on the cd
[11:53] <kejup> n2diy: I just finished reinstalling. This time I didn't use the automatic keyboard selection (I just used the default US keyboard). I also used a password without any special characters. Not sure which one fixed the problem.
[11:53] <superm1_> ikonia, this is after i got installed.  running off the hard drive
[11:53] <ikonia> but if its hardware I'd guess memory
[11:54] <ikonia> try booting from the cd agian
[11:54] <ikonia> again
[11:54] <superm1_> memory tests fine
[11:54] <superm1_> i ran memtest overnight
[11:54] <superm1_> dft tested the hard drives fine
[11:54] <superm1_> so i was just wondering if there are some known bios options that dont work well
[11:54] <Admiral_Buttercr> is there a cammand i can give busy box to start Ubuntu?
[11:54] <nikin> i have found a page about udev blacklisting but i cant figure out what rc.conf does i meen : http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev  this is the link
[11:55] <ikonia> Admiral_Buttercr: why dont you listen and respond
[11:55] <kejup> FYI, I was having a problem logging in on a fresh edgy install. When I bypassed the automatic keyboard selection (picked the default US keyboard instead) and used a password without special characters the problem went away.
[11:55] <ikonia> do you get the grub boot prompt ?
[11:55] <ikonia> or menu
[11:55] <Admiral_Buttercr> where it has OS lisings?
[11:55] <ikonia> yes
[11:55] <Admiral_Buttercr> yes
[11:55] <ikonia> have you selected ubuntu from it ?
[11:55] <Admiral_Buttercr> yes
[11:55] <sidny4> is there a way to see what process/programs are running? kinda like windows task manager
[11:55] <ikonia> does it boot ?
[11:56] <Admiral_Buttercr> i get the ubuntu logo, with the orange loading bar, but then it opens busybox
[11:56] <ikonia> you said thats what it did when you booted windows
[11:56] <Admiral_Buttercr> let me try one more time] 
[11:56] <Admiral_Buttercr> no
[11:56] <amir> How do I prevent gaim from starting when I start my computer?
[11:56] <ikonia> yes you do - you said just before the blue welcome screen
[11:56] <kejup> sidny4: you could run "ps -ax" on the command line
[11:56] <Admiral_Buttercr> Ubuntu gives me busybox
[11:56] <aoupi> sidny4: run top in terminal or start system monitor(somewhere in the menues)
[11:57] <ikonia> Admiral_Buttercr: go back to using windows
[11:57] <Admiral_Buttercr> Windows is getting stuck at a black screen wight when the welcome screen should appear
[11:57] <sidny4> ok, thanks
[11:57] <Falstius> sidny4: you can also use ps aux (although it is much more cryptic)
[11:57] <kejup> sidny4: or you could go to system->administration->system monitor (on edgy)
[11:57] <Admiral_Buttercr> ok
[11:57] <_sandy_> hey guys, I have a rather peculiar problem with a hard disk and it's partitions
[11:57] <Admiral_Buttercr> its at the windows logo
[11:57] <_sandy_> 1. I'm able to see that the partitions exist in cfdisk
[11:58] <Admiral_Buttercr> and the blue loading bar
[11:58] <_sandy_> 2. /proc/partitions does not show them
[11:58] <_sandy_> any ideas?
[11:58] <Falstius> Admiral_Buttercr: blue loading bar?  You're running win2k?
[11:58] <Admiral_Buttercr> no
[11:58] <Admiral_Buttercr> XP
[11:58] <_sandy_> XP pro
[11:58] <_sandy_> now
[11:58] <Admiral_Buttercr> XP home
[11:58] <Admiral_Buttercr> OMFG now it wants to work
[11:58] <svish> do I need to restart the computer when I have edited global_keybindings? or is there a faster way to get them to work?
[11:59] <Admiral_Buttercr> But Ubuntu is still fed up
[11:59] <ikonia> Admiral_Buttercr: you talk crap
[11:59] <_sandy_> svish: format and install windows, if you can (linux is such a monopoly)
[11:59] <Admiral_Buttercr> ikonia explain?
[11:59] <svish> _sandy_: um...what?
[11:59] <ikonia> you talk rubbish
[11:59] <Admiral_Buttercr> ikonia, what rubbish?
[11:59] <ikonia> all of it
[11:59] <_sandy_> svish: I have a hard drive whose partitions can be seen with cfdisk but not in /proc/partitions
[11:59] <amir> How do I prevent programs from starting when I start my computer?
[12:00] <_sandy_> hence there are no device nodes created for them
[12:00] <_sandy_> anyone understand this problem?
[12:00] <bruenig> amir, like what
[12:00] <Admiral_Buttercr> ikonia, I have no clue what your problem is
[12:00] <ikonia> you
[12:00] <aoupi> _sandy_: do they show up in /dev?
[12:00] <_sandy_> they're SFS partitions, I was able to read them the other day and reinstalled linux and it doesn't create device nodes now
[12:00] <ikonia> talking rubbish
[12:00] <_sandy_> aoupi: no, they don't they're not in /proc/partitions but I can see them with fdisk
[12:01] <svish> how can I restart so that configfiles get read? do I need to restart the computer, or is there a linux command for it?