[12:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77884 in apt-listbugs (universe) "Too many bug reports make apt-listbugs exit badly, prevents any updates" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77884
[12:07] <Shadow42> Hey, it works!
[12:07] <Shadow42> Oh, that's a funny one
[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77885 in sysv-rc-conf (universe) "Minor: sysv-rc-conf inconsistency displaying rcS.d or not" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77885
[12:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77890 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "ubuntu fails to start unless sis5513 module is blacklisted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77890
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77307 in hplip (main) "hp-setup fails with setupform import" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77307
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77886 in nautilus (main) "Using a keybinding for nautilus --no-desktop has unexpected behaviour" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77886
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77887 in wammu (universe) "SE T610 -- crash by using SMS upload" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77887
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77888 in greasemonkey (universe) "Redundant package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77888
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77889 in kdegames (main) "knetwalk crashes at the end of the game" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77889
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77891 in kdebase (main) "Kcontrol doesn't open the system services module" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77891
[01:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77893 in Ubuntu "Microphone not working on intel sound card" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77893
[01:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77894 in Ubuntu "wbsd doesn't detect SD card on feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77894
[01:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77895 in ubiquity (main) "Grubinstaller crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77895
[01:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #73428 in kdelibs (main) "/var/crash/_usr_bin_kdeinit.1000.crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/73428
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77897 in linux-meta (main) "/usr/src/linux symlink missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77897
[02:06] <bddebian> Boo
[02:06] <Shadow42> Aa!
[02:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> gday
[02:07] <bddebian> Heh, heya Shadow42, Kamping_Kaiser
[02:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77898 in Ubuntu "Edgy PPC when time is grossly incorrect system does not function" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77898
[02:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> isnt that for any unix....?
[03:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77903 in cfengine (universe) "Please remove cfengine from the archive" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77903
[03:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77902 in ruby-defaults (main) "ruby objects randomly become fixnums" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77902
[03:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77892 in language-support-de (main) "depends on openoffice.org-l10n-de which conflicts with openoffice.org-core (>= 2.0.4.1) " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77892
[03:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63199 in ubuntu-website "Ubuntu web site should list vendors with Ubuntu-preinstalled laptops (dup-of: 63192)" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/63199
[04:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77904 in gnome-app-install (main) "Add/Remove Applications crashed after trying to install a program" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77904
[04:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77905 in firefox (main) "firefox crashed when opening a tab that caused a number of fd:// errors popping up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77905
[04:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77906 in linux-meta (main) "Crash on accessing ESPN web site with Firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77906
[04:18] <Nafallo> ehh
[04:19] <Nafallo> how can that be linux-metas fault? :-)
[04:23] <Hobbsee> wrong place, i'll bet
[05:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77907 in bibletime (universe) "No drop down on Book control." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77907
[05:37] <dthacker> Hi,  Is the ubuntu-bugsquad mailing list an appropriate place to ask a question about triaging?
[05:38] <somerville32> Just ask here :)
[05:38] <Hobbsee> dthacker: sure, or here
[05:43] <dthacker> If upstream says wontfix, should I reject or resolve?
[05:44] <lifeless> "It depends"
[05:44] <lifeless> its really a case by case thing
[05:45] <lifeless> sometimes we will fix it ourselves and carry a patch
[05:45] <lifeless> sometimes we'll accept the upstreams point and follow suite - in which case reject.
[05:46] <dthacker> since this was more feature request than bug,  I will reject
[05:47] <lifeless> what bug # is it ?
[05:47] <dthacker> ubugtu: bug 77768
[05:47] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 77768 in beagle "should not store indexes in ~" [Unknown,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77768
[05:48] <dthacker> hah, I was beaten to it
[05:48] <lifeless> I'll be thats wasabi :)
[05:48] <dthacker> what a learning experience
[05:49] <dthacker> oh well, if wasn't doing anything I wouldn't make mistakes, right?
[05:49] <somerville32> :] 
[06:06] <dthacker> ubugtu: bug 51502
[06:07] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 51502 in util-linux "hardware clock overrides time set by ntpdate on boot" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/51502
[06:07] <dthacker> Based on more info, I'm ready to confirm this.  Do I remove myself as owner?
[06:10] <Hobbsee> dthacker: as owner?
[06:11] <dthacker> assignee, sorry.  more coffee!
[06:12] <dthacker> Hobbsee: I'm not going to fix it, so I should no longer be assignee, correct?
[06:12] <Hobbsee> dthacker: yes.  why were you the assignee anyway?
[06:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77909 in stardict (universe) "stardict under gnome crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77909
[06:17] <dthacker> Hobbsee: The triage guide says to assign to "me" when you are setting the bug to more info
[06:17] <Hobbsee> hrm, OK....
[06:19] <dthacker> Hobbsee: does that cause a workflow problem?
[06:19] <dthacker> or is there some reason to not follow the guide?
[06:19] <Hobbsee> dthacker: no.  i just saw it, and thought it was odd
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77911 in Ubuntu "Sound card configuration is a complete mess" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77911
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77912 in gaim (main) "Gaim crashes when trying to fetch info for ICQ contact" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77912
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77913 in opencv (universe) "cvSetIdentity problem in 0.9.7 fixed in 1.0.0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77913
[07:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77915 in anjuta (universe) "[feisty]  anjuta some plugins cannot be loaded" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77915
[07:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77916 in xen-tools (universe) "xen-image-create fails to boot image." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77916
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77917 in xchat-systray (universe) "[feisty]  xchat-systray spawns 2 systray icons" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77917
[08:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77919 in apt (main) "[feisty]  apt removes openoffice if trying to install openoffice-help-x" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77919
[09:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77920 in Ubuntu "GEdit freezes on open when launched with (gk)sudo" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77920
[09:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77921 in xchat (universe) "xchat has two systray icons" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77921
[09:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77922 in initramfs-tools (main) "After upgrading from breezy, the system will not boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77922
[09:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77923 in Ubuntu "NTP synchronization triggered by if-up.d in Ubuntu-Server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77923
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77924 in gnome-keyring (main) "Nautilus won't remember passwords for samba shares" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77924
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77926 in libapache-mod-auth-mysql (main) "libapache2-mod-auth-mysql depends on apache2-common in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77926
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77927 in lincity-ng (universe) "Lincity Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77927
[10:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #76393 in kde-guidance (main) "displayconfig-restore crash" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/76393
[10:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77928 in Ubuntu "xorg handling of "special" keys inconsistant" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77928
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77929 in Ubuntu "usb.ids instaled in several copies to the system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77929
[11:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77930 in beagle (main) "beagled crashes on startup (0.2.9-1ubuntu3)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77930
[11:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77931 in acpid (main) "Edgy crashes when switching power supply on Asus A2500D" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77931
[11:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77932 in kdebase (main) "On system logout all fat 32 partitions become unmounted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77932
[11:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77935 in mono (main) "mono crashed when i turned on the pc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77935
[11:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77934 in cssed (universe) "using padding (all) dialog box - program crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77934
[11:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77936 in python-defaults (main) "var/crash/_usr_bin_python.1000.crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77936
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77937 in nautilus (main) "CD with UDFS aren't readable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77937
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77938 in firefox (main) "Segmentation fault after upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77938
[12:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77939 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "fglrx 3d rendering fails in kernel 2.6.20-3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77939
[12:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77940 in Ubuntu "gst-plugins-ugly0.10 crash in firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77940
[12:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77941 in firefox (main) "Segfault since upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77941
[12:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77942 in ubiquity (main) "installing OS" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77942
[12:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77943 in openssh (main) "blacklist hosts after 3 wrong password" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77943
[12:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77944 in nautilus (main) "nautilus shows folder twice" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77944
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77945 in xkeyboard-config (main) "Windows key producing <Mod4><Hyper> instead of just <Mod4>" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77945
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77946 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77946
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77947 in Ubuntu "wifi lights not working on dell inspiron 6000" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77947
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77948 in mesa (main) "Slow scrolling with aiglx/compiz" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77948
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77949 in evolution (main) "I want Evolution to removed deleted mails fom server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77949
[02:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69291 in Ubuntu "Slow boot in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/69291
[02:15] <joachim-n> what's the package for software update?
[02:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77950 in kvpnc (universe) "kvpnc crashes with SIGSEGV when trying to import a Cisco .pcf file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77950
[02:16] <joachim-n> nm, found it
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77951 in firefox (main) "can't restart firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77951
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77952 in update-manager (main) "cancelling software update install causes a rescan and forgets my selection" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77952
[02:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77953 in initrd-tools (universe) "Edgy (i386 desktop) install fails to boot when installed to a SCSI disk  (initrd missing aic drivers)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77953
[02:32] <Hobbsee> bug 49963
[02:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 49963 in firefox "cannot "add action" permanently when opening files " [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/49963
[02:32] <Hobbsee> yay :D
[02:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #76504 in gnome-power-manager (main) "gnome-power-manager crashes on close" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/76504
[02:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77954 in sysvinit (main) "cleanup scripts confused about cleaning /var/run and /var/lock" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77954
[03:33] <giskard> ciao
[03:38] <the_mug> hello friends.
[03:39] <the_mug> I keep getting this on a fresh edgy install: lsof: WARNING: can't stat() tmpfs file system /dev/shm/var.run
[03:41] <dthacker> the_mug: what is your question?
[03:44] <the_mug> dthacker: I kept losing my ifstate file so I had to recreate /var/run/network/* yesterday how can I tell whether my tmpfs is correctly setup.
[03:44] <the_mug> I don't get the above error on my other fresh edgy install
[03:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77957 in linux-meta (main) "GDM gets stuck at login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77957
[03:46] <dthacker> the_mug: that would be a support request :)  Please ask in #ubuntu or on the ubuntu forums for mailing list.  This channel is for discussing bug reports.
[03:47] <dthacker> sorry that was forums or mailing list.
[03:48] <bddebian> Boo
[03:50] <dthacker> boo
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77958 in firefox (main) "incompatible themes against firefox2.0.0.1 from edgy-security" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77958
[03:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77959 in control-center (main) "preferred application for calendar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77959
[04:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77961 in syncropated (universe) "syncropated can not start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77961
[04:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77962 in sysvinit (main) "sendsigs calls usplash_down without checking if it exists" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77962
[04:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77964 in ubiquity (main) "Should warn about insufficient disk space (automatic partitioning)" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77964
[04:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77966 in ubiquity (main) "Should warn about insufficient disk space (manual partitioning)" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77966
[04:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #76450 in openoffice.org (main) "Open Office shipped with Ubuntu is broken." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/76450
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77968 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "linux-image-2.6.20-4-generic package doesnt configure when installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77968
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77970 in firefox (main) "firefox crash after closing totem in a tab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77970
[05:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77971 in Ubuntu "usb flash drive not working. Lsusb hangs with no output." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77971
[05:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77972 in initramfs-tools (main) "mkinitramfs does not bulid a xen-friendly initrd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77972
[05:43] <beerockxs> against which package would I report a Xinerama bug?
[05:44] <keescook> beerockxs: I'd use "xorg", that's probably reasonable, and if not, it can be changed.  :)
[05:44] <beerockxs> keescook: well, the problem is that the mousecursor does not change on the secondary monitor when you hover over a link or try to drag a window around
[05:45] <keescook> that may be video-driver specific...
[05:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77973 in gtkpod-aac (multiverse) "Crash when selecting Playlists pulldown" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77973
[05:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77974 in tar (main) "manual page outdated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77974
[05:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77175 in eog (main) "eog crashes in nautilus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77175
[05:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77174 in xine-ui (universe) "Xine-ui creates two menu entries "Xine Movie Player" on kubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77174
[05:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77303 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes when Xorg color depth set to 16" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77303
[05:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77302 in ubiquity (main) "ntfsresize cannot shrink XP without leaving ~300MB of wasted disk; gparted unhelpful. " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77302
[06:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77298 in ubiquity (main) "Installer cant install GRUB" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77298
[06:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77299 in network-manager (main) "Password dialog appears on the wrong desktop when multiple users are logged on" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77299
[06:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77308 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed when opening a yahoo email." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77308
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77975 in amaya (universe) "amaya crashed while opening http://www.cbc.ca" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77975
[06:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77976 in mediawiki (universe) "mediawiki: overlaps an earlier Alias" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77976
[06:32] <gnomefreak> mvo_: we cant do much with edgys apt/autoremove since its been released right?
[06:50] <proppy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cvs/+bug/71089 still valid
[06:50] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 71089 in cvs "cvs broken on edgy live cd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[06:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77977 in evolution-jescs (universe) "typo in evolution-jescs-2.8.2/debian/rules" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77977
[06:57] <mvo_> gnomefreak: to a certain extend we can, it depends on the problem. what bug/problem do you have in mind?
[07:03] <gnomefreak> mvo_: autoremove
[07:04] <gnomefreak> mvo_: someone is claiming installing jokosher wants to remove all kde apps
[07:05] <gnomefreak> i see it as listing the apps to remove with autoremove (atleast i know feisty fixed this for most part.) but i have yet seen proof of it just removing them
[07:06] <mvo_> gnomefreak: that line made it to #gnome-hackers. I guess I should disable the ai in autoremove ,)
[07:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77978 in ubiquity (main) "Crash before partitioning" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77978
[07:07] <mvo_> gnomefreak: do we have some more data on the bug? someone to talk to how can reproduce it? it seems to be mostly happening on kubuntu system and I wonder why
[07:07] <gnomefreak> mvo_: that sounds fine. i just keep getting ALOT of complaints about autoremove in edgy but i dont mind it too much :)
[07:07] <gnomefreak> mvo_: this was a kubuntu system
[07:08] <gnomefreak> i cant see why its only kubuntu except maybe the amount of packages?
[07:08] <mvo_> gnomefreak: can you see a matter in the reports? or some bugreport that can be used as a starting point to explore the problem
[07:08] <gnomefreak> i will look today for as much info i can find on it
[07:09] <mvo_> I was suspecting that there is something wrong in the way that kubuntu-desktop is installed. if it is install as "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" and it brings in a load of dependencies, those dependencies will be auto-removed once kubuntu-desktop is removed for some reason
[07:09] <mvo_> the other thing I have seen was people installing "kde" (a meta-package)
[07:09] <mvo_> and later removing it again
[07:09] <gnomefreak> true
[07:10] <mvo_> but given the amount of reports, it certainly needs closer investigation :/
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77979 in Ubuntu "installer crashed upon installing grub on usb drive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77979
[07:11] <gnomefreak> only -desktop package i dont have installed is edubuntu so i cant really test with that one but i will look for some bugs with info for you to look at in the morning(afternoon for you)
[07:11] <mvo_> gnomefreak: I don't want to hold you from lunch  :) let me know (irc/mail/what-you-wnat) if you find something interessting that can be used as a starting point
[07:11] <mvo_> great, thanks a lot!
[07:11] <gnomefreak> i have one of update-manager bugs open i cant remmber why :(
[07:11] <gnomefreak> bug
[07:12] <mvo_> oh? I will do some bug triage on the update-manager problems tomorrow I think
[07:12] <gnomefreak> oh i looked at the logs and hp* packages were broken from what i see but hes complaining about update-manager wanting to update held back packages.
[07:12] <gnomefreak> bug 75332
[07:12] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 75332 in update-manager "Held back packages not ignored" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/75332
[07:13] <gnomefreak> maybe you can make heads or tails of what he means. from the logs the erlang package installed fine
[07:13] <mvo_> gnomefreak: thanks, I think I have a idea where to start looking
[07:13] <gnomefreak> ok cool
[07:14] <gnomefreak> thank you for your time ill be back later after lunch
[07:14] <mvo_> thank you!
[07:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71442 in ubiquity (main) "partman exited with code 10" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/71442
[07:16] <gnomefreak> mvo_: if you run out of things to do bug 75068 is one of the autoremove bugs that i happen to have sitting here at desk
[07:16] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 75068 in apt "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required" [Low,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/75068
[07:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77980 in mtop (universe) "A package failed to install (apt, dpkg)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77980
[07:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77981 in nedit (universe) "nedit crashes at startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77981
[07:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77983 in Ubuntu "$LANG is defined in 2 places: /etc/environment and /etc/default/locale" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77983
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77984 in gdm (main) "Changing display brightness kills GDM" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77984
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77985 in gaim (main) "reading error, closes unexpecded at start or after a while. Sometimes i can be loggen in with one account and the other crashes, sometimes neither." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77985
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77986 in kdebase (main) "stopping kdm leaves the Virtual Terminals invisible" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77986
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77987 in Ubuntu "Missing links in Edgy 64 /usr/lib32 - easy to fix. (please fix on Feisty!)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77987
[08:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77988 in Ubuntu "no sound after Kubuntu/Ubuntu switching" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77988
[08:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77989 in firefox-themes-ubuntu (main) "[Edgy]  themes incompatible with firefox 2.0.0.1 after security update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77989
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77990 in gnome-mount (main) "[feisty]  cdrom double entries" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77990
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77991 in gdm (main) "user security compromised when switching users" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77991
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77992 in python-defaults (main) "PyAlaMode crashes if view ingredients of numpy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77992
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77993 in kdenetwork "kget crashes after pausing files in Edgy" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77993
[08:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77616 in firefox (main) "FF crashed when trying to download from NFL.com" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77616
[08:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77172 in hplip (main) "hp-makeuri reports "error: Unable to connect to hpiod." while the printer is powered up." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77172
[09:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77301 in beryl-manager "When I log in, it doesn't load the desktop anymore" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77301
[09:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77698 in firefox (main) "crashefor no reason" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77698
[09:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77300 in wacom-tools (main) "wacom driver is far from adequate on Volito2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77300
[09:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77994 in gnutls13 (main) "libgnutls13 should Provides: libgnutls" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77994
[09:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77995 in kdebase (main) "Konsole "Tip of the day" sometimes forgets it's settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77995
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77997 in iptables (main) "IPtables blocking unintentional ICMP" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77997
[09:36] <localverb> Hi
[09:36] <localverb> I need your help
[09:36] <localverb> I get this message in the add/remove menu in ubuntu 6.10
[09:36] <localverb> PROGRAM_NAME cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type.
[09:36] <localverb> This is written under almost all the applications in the menu
[09:36] <localverb> I updated my system and I also googled it....but no use
[09:36] <localverb> what's the solution ?
[09:36] <localverb> and thanks in advance
[09:37] <localverb> Hello?
[09:37] <localverb> guys anybody please help!
[09:38] <localverb> :(
[09:38] <stgraber> looks like you are trying to install a software for a different architecture
[09:38] <localverb> no
[09:39] <stgraber> did you try installing one of those softwares directly from command line ?
[09:39] <localverb> it's under all programs
[09:39] <localverb> it is impossible for it to be under all programs
[09:39] <localverb> for example Azureus should run on this CPU I am sure
[09:39] <localverb> no
[09:40] <stgraber> yes, but maybe you are using a mirror that only provides packages for amd64, ppc or whatever
[09:40] <stgraber> and then doesn't have the i386 ones
[09:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77998 in firefox (main) "Application Quits on specific URL" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77998
[09:40] <localverb> How can I know mate?
[09:40] <stgraber> well, try : sudo apt-get install <the package name>
[09:40] <stgraber> where <the package name> is one of the software you see with that message
[09:41] <localverb> sudo apt-get install Azureus
[09:41] <localverb> for example ?
[09:41] <stgraber> azureus
[09:41] <stgraber> but yes
[09:41] <stgraber> sudo apt-get install azureus
[09:42] <localverb> ok
[09:42] <localverb> I will try it rightaway
[09:42] <localverb> Thank for taking the time and trouble to help me  stgraber :)
[09:43] <stgraber> no problem :)
[09:43] <localverb> I get this :
[09:43] <localverb> Password:
[09:43] <localverb> Reading package lists... Done
[09:43] <localverb> Building dependency tree
[09:43] <localverb> Reading state information... Done
[09:43] <localverb> E: Couldn't find package azureus
[09:44] <stgraber> hmm
[09:44] <stgraber> ok, so go to : System -> Administration -> Software sources
[09:45] <localverb> ok I am there
[09:45] <stgraber> check : universe, multiverse, restricted and main
[09:46] <stgraber> for example azureus is in universe
[09:46] <stgraber> so if universe isn't checked you won't be able to install it
[09:46] <localverb> they are all checked except multiverse
[09:47] <stgraber> ok, that's really weird ...
[09:47] <stgraber> could you paste the content of /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:48] <localverb> yeah
[09:48] <localverb> I've googled it and it appeared to be a gnome bug and the solution was to update
[09:48] <localverb> I updated but it still exist
[09:48] <localverb> ok
[09:51] <localverb> Which syntax should I choose?
[09:51] <localverb> and what's next when I paste it?
[09:52] <stgraber> give me the url plz
[09:52] <stgraber> syntax choose text
[09:52] <localverb> ok
[09:53] <localverb> Here it is:
[09:53] <localverb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/476/
[09:54] <stgraber> it looks good
[09:54] <stgraber> try : sudo apt-get update
[09:54] <localverb> ok
[09:54] <stgraber> and tell me if there is an error
[09:54] <localverb> ok
[09:54] <stgraber> (but as your sources.list looks correct it shouldn't)
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77999 in gnucash (universe) "MDL currency absent" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77999
[09:56] <localverb> it doesn't give any errors
[09:56] <localverb> but there is a line that says:
[09:56] <localverb> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[09:56] <stgraber> hmm
[09:57] <stgraber> can you paste the result of the apt-get update to paste.ubuntu-nl.org as well
[09:57] <localverb> right away
[09:58] <localverb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/478/
[09:59] <stgraber> ok, is the "Source code" case checked in the Software Sources ?
[10:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78000 in mc (universe) "mc crashed while ftp connection was running" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78000
[10:01] <localverb> it was checked with a " - "
[10:01] <localverb> I unchecked it and checked it again and it became a check mark
[10:01] <stgraber> ok, uncheck it
[10:01] <localverb> ok
[10:02] <localverb> it's unchecked now
[10:02] <stgraber> it appears that's your current problem, the sources aren't available on the mirror or there is a bug there
[10:02] <stgraber> sudo apt-get update
[10:02] <stgraber> again
[10:02] <localverb> ok
[10:02] <stgraber> and check if the errors are gone
[10:03] <localverb> it seems similar to the previous result
[10:03] <stgraber> hmm, do : sudo gedit /etc/sources.list
[10:05] <localverb> ok it's opened
[10:05] <localverb> but it's empty !
[10:06] <stgraber> indeed, I did a mistake :)
[10:06] <stgraber> close it and do : sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:06] <localverb> ok
[10:06] <localverb> now it's not :)
[10:08] <localverb> it's open now
[10:08] <stgraber> ok, do you have uncommented deb-src lines ?
[10:09] <localverb> No, they are all commented
[10:10] <stgraber> ok, I'll write a small sources.list that should work for you, maybe that's just you local mirror that's buggy
[10:11] <localverb> Maybe
[10:11] <localverb> I  already heat the internet in my country :)
[10:11] <localverb> sorry
[10:11] <localverb> hate*
[10:11] <localverb> no heat :)
[10:12] <stgraber> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/480/
[10:12] <stgraber> put that instead of your current sources.list content
[10:12] <stgraber> that's from the main Ubuntu mirror so it should work
[10:12] <localverb> ok
[10:12] <localverb> I hope so :)
[10:13] <stgraber> then another : sudo apt-get update :)
[10:13] <localverb> OK should I replace all the previous content?
[10:15] <stgraber> yep
[10:16] <localverb> ok
[10:22] <localverb> it is downloading
[10:22] <localverb> it seems to work
[10:22] <localverb> but I also get that line that says:
[10:22] <localverb> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:22] <localverb> but I am sure it is different from the previous attempt , because it took sometime to download
[10:23] <localverb> can I try : sudo apt-get install azureus
[10:25] <stgraber> copy/paste the errors to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:25] <localverb> ok
[10:25] <stgraber> you can try apt-get install azureus but I doubt it will work
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78002 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "BUG: scheduling while atomic: fsck/0x20000000/5262" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78002
[10:25] <gnomefreak> localverb: feisty?
[10:26] <stgraber> edgy
[10:26] <localverb> yeah edgy
[10:27] <gnomefreak> try changing the mirror you use instead of archive.ubuntu.com use gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:27] <localverb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/484/
[10:27] <gnomefreak> the uk mirrors werent working this morning so i changed it and it worked
[10:28] <localverb> stgraber changed them for me
[10:28] <localverb> and I got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/484/
[10:28] <gnomefreak> try using de
[10:28] <stgraber> localverb: try changing them from archive.ubuntu.com to gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:28] <gnomefreak> its almost always working
[10:29] <stgraber> gnomefreak: he was using sa.archive.ubuntu.com but they look to be the same as archive.ubuntu.com
[10:29] <gnomefreak> i know gb is working right now
[10:29] <localverb> ok
[10:29] <localverb> I will try
[10:29] <gnomefreak> they may be
[10:29] <stgraber> he has problem like that : Failed to fetch http://sa.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[10:29] <localverb> I've been with this bug a while
[10:29] <localverb> it spoiled my edgy experience :(
[10:32] <stgraber> any difference with gb.archive.ubuntu.com instead of archive.ubuntu.com ?
[10:33] <localverb> just a sec
[10:33] <localverb> my connection is a little bit slow
[10:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78003 in widelands (universe) "crash during tut 1 level" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78003
[10:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78004 in ubiquity (main) "installer fails to launch in Feisty Herd 1 on amd64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78004
[10:39] <localverb> all it returns is "could not resolve gb.ubuntu......."
[10:40] <stgraber> gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:40] <stgraber> not gb.ubuntu.com
[10:40] <localverb> :)
[10:40] <localverb> Sorry
[10:40] <localverb> I will do it now
[10:42] <localverb> Err http://sa.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages
[10:42] <localverb>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[10:42] <localverb> but not finished yet
[10:42] <localverb> Err http://sa.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[10:43] <stgraber> but why a sa.archive.ubuntu.com line ?
[10:43] <stgraber> do you still have some sa.archive.ubuntu.com lines in your sources.list ?
[10:43] <localverb> I don't know why it still insists on this mirrir although I am sure I changed it
[10:44] <localverb> the output is mixed
[10:44] <localverb> some URLs are gb and little are sa
[10:44] <localverb> but the sources.list file contains only gb
[10:44] <stgraber> weird
[10:45] <stgraber> sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*edgy*
[10:45] <stgraber> it'll clean the lists cache of apt
[10:45] <localverb> Yeah
[10:45] <localverb> If only I had a fast connection I could have reomte desktop :(
[10:45] <localverb> ok
[10:46] <localverb> ok
[10:46] <stgraber> then try a new : sudo apt-get update
[10:46] <localverb> ok
[10:47] <localverb> I canceled it
[10:47] <localverb> it still contains sa
[10:47] <localverb> Man! this sa is killing me. Why doesn't it die!
[10:48] <localverb> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[10:48] <localverb> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[10:48] <localverb> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse
[10:48] <localverb> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
[10:48] <localverb> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:49] <localverb> This is what I have in sources.list
[10:49] <stgraber> is your computer directly reachable from the net or behind a nat ?
[10:50] <localverb> yes it is behind a NAT
[10:50] <localverb> behind a modem/router at the same time
[10:50] <localverb> adsl modem
[10:50] <davmor2> localverb: what can you ping
[10:50] <localverb> sorry ?
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78005 in qpsmtpd (universe) "[SRU]  request: dapper:qpsmtpd fix for bug #72602" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78005
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78006 in beagle (main) "/etc/cron.daily/beagle-crawl-system fails to work because of "set -e"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78006
[10:51] <davmor2> try : ping 192.168.1.1 or whatever your router is
[10:51] <davmor2> then try http://www.google.com
[10:51] <localverb> ok
[10:52] <localverb> I tried google
[10:52] <localverb> but it's no use
[10:53] <davmor2> what about your router?
[10:54] <localverb> I am pinging my modem and it's properly reachable
[10:54] <localverb> it's speedtouch 585i
[10:54] <stgraber> localverb: can you read my private messages ? (I turned my un-registered restriction off but don't know if that works)
[10:54] <localverb> yeah I can read it
[10:55] <davmor2> is your machine in the router dmz
[10:57] <davmor2> if so you may need to change your default dns server ip address to that of the isps
[10:58] <davmor2> /quit
[10:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77173 in firefox (main) "Edgy Firefox 2.0: slow, now just crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77173
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78007 in gnome-media (main) "Control de volumen 2.16.1 -no responde al primer click de cierre" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78007
[11:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #76531 in apport (main) "crash during system log in (dup-of: 77872)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/76531
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78008 in Ubuntu "Typo in installer partitioning" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78008
[11:49] <localverb> stgraber >>>>go to private
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78009 in dvd-slideshow (multiverse) "New upstream version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78009