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sistpotycrimsun: no problem... nobody received bug mails (and I was not delayed in watching movies actually *g*)12:14
crimsunsistpoty: 1ubuntu2 is available as of ~40 mins ago, which resolves it12:15
sistpotycool, thx!12:15
crimsunsistpoty: you just need to rerun asoundconf set-default-card12:15
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crimsunI wonder how evil it would be to parse /home and spit out a list of users that would need to execute that command.12:16
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sistpotynice idea *g*12:17
Nafallocrimsun: how can I tell if I need to run something? :-)12:24
crimsunNafallo: if you've ever run asoundconf set-default-card, you need to rerun it.12:24
NafalloI haven't :-)12:24
Nafallogood12:24
LaserJockheh, pbuilder login takes 11s in my vmware edgy on my intel imac12:34
nixternalbah pbuilder12:34
LaserJockit takes like 60s or so on my laptop at home :/12:34
crimsundoesn't top the "takes 28 minutes to resolve build dependencies for vlc"12:34
Nafalloomg12:35
LaserJockuggg12:35
Nafallowith 100% CPU during that time? :-)12:35
LaserJockthat's one you only want to do once12:35
crimsunI -heart- test-building vlc.12:35
LaserJockor actually none at all12:35
nixternalpbuilder didn't do my christmas packages, so i am upset at it12:35
LaserJockummm12:35
nixternalpbuilder-feisty build moms_present12:35
nixternaldidn't work :)12:35
nixternalso i had to actually buy gifts :)12:35
LaserJockit's awfully hard to blame pbuilder for not building PEKAC12:36
nixternalahh, you think you are funny and think that acronym would have gotten through ey ;p12:36
nixternalok, ok, i see how you play now12:36
nixternaland it is <acronym>PEBKAC</acronym> btw12:37
crimsunhe means that if you removed the key and the chair, it would have worked.12:37
crimsun=)12:37
nixternalhahaha12:37
LaserJocklol12:37
LaserJockso12:37
LaserJockon the lighter side of things12:37
nixternalsew buttons on your underwear12:38
LaserJockI was chating from my parents house over christmas12:38
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LaserJockand my little brother walks in and reads some -motu12:38
nixternaland now he is scarred for life?12:38
LaserJockand he says "LaserJock? ... that just sounds like jockstrap to me" and walks out12:39
nixternalit wasn't me12:39
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nixternalhahahahhaa12:39
Nafallolol12:39
nixternalJockStrap, the new MOTU Mastah12:39
nixternalshoot, my brother read mine as urinal so don't feel to bad12:39
nixternaland now when he calls he asks for "The Urinal"12:40
LaserJockI was actually trying to find some Laser Jock stickers to show you guys I'm not making it up12:40
LaserJockthere is one on one of our old Fedora machines12:40
nixternalhehe12:40
nixternalnixternal@ubuntu, how the hell do you get urinal out of that? i know my brother isn't the brightest bulb in the box, but still12:41
Nafallo:-)12:41
=== Nafallo feel sorry for nixternals brothers stupidity ;-)
nixternalheh, even worse is how they say ubuntu and joke about it12:42
nixternalnow i know why kids do what they do to their families and make it on tv12:42
nixternalone sec, let me go make some news :)12:42
nixternalhaha12:42
nixternali can see it now "32yo Chicago Wannabe Hacker Hacks Family Up With Ubuntu CDs Officials Say"12:43
Kamping_KaiserROFL12:43
nixternali wonder what my prison nickname would be?12:43
LaserJocknixternal: they better be Kubuntu CDs12:43
nixternaloh no, I wouuld never damage a Kubuntu CD12:44
LaserJockotherwise people might get the wrong impression ;-)12:44
Nafallo:-)12:45
LaserJockI wonder how much bandwidth Mirco Mller has, all his latest planet posts have like 3 or 4 ogg files12:46
nixternal"32yo Wannabe Hacker Dubbed The HackKillah Escapes From Prison Officials Say" - reports just now coming in, black corvette spotted in and around the MOTU Mastah area in Nevada. Officials say be on the lookout as the suspect is Armed and Dangerous12:47
nixternalarmed with a box of ShipIts, a mouse and a keyboard12:47
Nafallowith his finger on the enter-trigger for yet another upload...12:48
Nafallo:-)12:48
nixternalhe definitely has been posting some interesting oggs too12:48
nixternalmuhehehe12:48
LaserJock"The HackKillah"'s side kick, "JockStrap", is armed with several pistols and a Feisty pbuilder. Consider them armed and extremely nerdy12:49
Nafallolol12:49
Kamping_Kaiserlol12:49
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nixternali wish someone would remove the Ubuntu Bugs from Bug #112:50
UbugtuMalone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/112:50
LaserJock*sigh* if only I had any artistic ability whatsoever I'd do a MOTU comic12:50
nixternalya Ubugtu we know what that is already12:50
nixternalheh, now a MOTU comic would be funny12:50
Nafallolol12:51
LaserJockthe Golden Ponies were fun, but need more visual appeal12:51
LaserJock;-)12:51
nixternalahh, the Golden Ponies12:51
Kamping_Kaiserhow is ichthux ubuntu bug xx1?12:51
Kamping_Kaiser:/12:51
LaserJockKamping_Kaiser: it's also a bug for Ichthux12:51
nixternalhey, don't talk bad about Ichthux in my present12:51
nixternals/present/presence12:52
LaserJockKamping_Kaiser: as well as lots of other derivatives/projects12:52
nixternaljeesh12:52
nixternali say rm -rf that bug already12:52
Kamping_KaiserLaserJock, yes, but i would have thought here it defaults to 'bug in ubuntu', not 'bug  in otherdistro'12:52
nixternalframe it and get it out of here12:52
nixternalBug #uno is nothing but a gigantic forums post now12:52
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nixternalit is KDE done right :)12:53
Kamping_Kaiserah, hehee12:53
LaserJockKamping_Kaiser: it defaults to "bug in <whatever was last to add a task>"12:53
LaserJocknixternal: heh, I wouldn't have put it that way ...12:53
Kamping_KaiserLaserJock, oh :|12:53
nixternalor actually, KDE stalled at the moment until raphink gets his ball-and-chain12:53
nixternalya, I meant Kubuntu done right, for both, but KDE slipped12:54
nixternalerrr12:54
nixternalUbuntu12:54
nixternalok, im going to stick my head in a toilet. if im not back in 30 minutes call a plumber12:54
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LaserJocknixternal: look at what you did now12:55
Kamping_Kaiser:|12:55
nixternalhah12:55
Kamping_Kaiser^W does something different in xchat from irssi :|12:55
nixternallol12:55
Nafallolol12:55
nixternalthought you wre going to window 12 ey12:55
Kamping_Kaiserno, thought i was deleting a word12:56
Nafallo;-)12:56
Kamping_Kaiser:P12:56
NafalloALT != ^ :-)12:56
nixternalerr, ya ctrl not alt12:56
Kamping_KaiserNafallo, you almost have a regex going there ;)12:56
nixternalheh12:57
Nafallohaha12:57
LaserJockKamping_Kaiser: did you find Ichthux?12:57
Kamping_KaiserLaserJock, i think so. found a .com12:58
nixternalhehe12:58
LaserJockyeah, that's it12:58
Nafallooh. it's commercial ;-)12:58
LaserJockyeah, just like Ubuntu12:59
LaserJock:p12:59
Nafallo:-)01:00
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crimsunsomerville32: SRU uploaded.01:02
NafalloKamping_Kaiser: not me :-)01:03
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Kamping_KaiserNafallo, :)01:03
LaserJockKamping_Kaiser: surrounded?01:05
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Kamping_KaiserLaserJock, i recognised names, every time i look at a distro it seems to have people i know from ubuntu. usually a largeish number01:06
LaserJockKamping_Kaiser: yeah, there are a lot of MOTUs and DDs involved with Ichthux to some extent or another01:07
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LaserJockand even occasionally some of those silly doc people01:08
LaserJock;-)01:08
crimsunthose crazy MOTUs. err01:08
Kamping_Kaiserhehe01:08
LaserJockdoes that make me silly and crazy? :/01:08
Kamping_KaiserLaserJock, they're not a mutually exclusive01:09
Kamping_Kaiser:)01:09
LaserJocksure, but I wondered if it would mean being tossed out of deity status ;-)01:09
Kamping_Kaiserok. out to work. have a good day all. should be back asking more anoying questions tonight ;)01:10
crimsunZeus wasn't deemed sane01:10
LaserJockdarn01:10
crimsunso I see no reason why they're orgothonal01:10
LaserJockcya Kamping_Kaiser 01:10
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LaserJockEtch hasn't been released yet, has it?01:46
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somerville32crimsun: Thanks01:50
crimsunLaserJock: no.01:50
LaserJockhmm, are they on the brink?01:51
LaserJockseems like it was supposed to be in Dec.01:51
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gnomefreakLaserJock: i would look more towards fall of this year (fall == sept-dec)02:02
Kamping_Kaiserlol02:03
Kamping_Kaiserit was supposed to be dec 402:03
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bddebianHeya gang02:06
sistpotyhi bddebian02:07
bddebianHi sistpoty02:07
LaserJockhi bddebian 02:07
LaserJocksistpoty: rpy is waiting for ubuntu-archive to let it in02:08
sistpotyLaserJock: ah, thx02:08
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bddebianHi LaserJock02:09
crimsun'night keescook 02:11
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zulajmitch around?02:17
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LaserJockalrighty then, I'm going home02:21
zulsee you in a couple of minutes...we know that you love us02:21
LaserJockheh02:21
Nafallo:-)02:27
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ryanakcahow do I fix http://pastebin.ca/303034 ? (it's only been happening since I've been using gpg-agent...)02:49
Nafallois anyone working on new xchat? :-)02:53
sistpotyryanakca: did you enter anything? because of "gpg: cancelled by user"02:53
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ryanakcanope02:53
sistpotyryanakca: can you enter your passphrase there?02:53
ryanakcapinentry-qt doesn't even pop up...02:53
ryanakcait runs right threw... doesn't give me a prompt or anything02:54
xerxassistpoty:  I have problems uploading to revu 02:54
xerxascan you help me please ? 02:54
sistpotyxerxas: sure02:54
xerxasUploading to revu (via ftp to revu.tauware.de):02:55
xerxas  libtapioca-cil_0ubuntu1-1.dsc: 02:55
xerxasError '553 Could not create file.' during ftp transfer of libtapioca-cil_0ubuntu1-1.dsc02:55
sistpotyryanakca: how about deinstalling gpgagent?02:55
xerxasand then I have a note that says I can use dcut 02:55
sistpotyxerxas: give me a sec, I'll take a look at incoming02:55
sistpotyxerxas: nope, revu doesn't accept dcut commands *g*02:55
xerxasok 02:55
sistpotyxerxas: but it accepts rm -f commands from me on the shell *g*02:55
xerxas:)02:55
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sistpotyxerxas: file deleted02:56
xerxasbut maybe you don't need to remove it ? but I don't see it on the webpage 02:56
xerxasok 02:56
xerxasthanks 02:56
sistpotynp...02:56
xerxassistpoty:  what happened ? so that I don't bother you again 02:57
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sistpotyxerxas: if the file was only half-uploaded, there is no other option than to ask a revu admin to remove the file02:57
xerxasok 02:57
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sistpotyxerxas: if the file is fully there in ftp incoming, you can simply put the other files of the upload there too, with the changes file last02:57
sistpotyxerxas: (an upload is considered complete, if the changes file is there)02:57
xerxasso if I have problems uploadnig with ftp , then I need to ask you to remove files ? 02:58
xerxasok 02:58
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sistpotyxerxas: not necessarily, but if your connection breaks in the middle of a file transfer yes02:58
sistpotyxerxas: dput transfairs 4 files (.dsc, .diff.gz, .orig.tar.gz and finally .changes)02:58
xerxask02:59
xerxassistpoty:  currently I'm trying to upload 02:59
xerxasUploading to revu (via ftp to revu.tauware.de):02:59
xerxas  libtapioca-cil_0ubuntu1-1.dsc: 02:59
xerxasit's stuck here 02:59
xerxas$ du -sh *dsc 02:59
xerxas4,0K    libtapioca-cil_0ubuntu1-1.dsc02:59
xerxasI'm waiting for 2 minutes probably already 02:59
sistpotyxerxas: the dsc looks like it's complete on the server side...03:00
sistpotyxerxas: are you behind a firewall?03:00
xerxasyep 03:00
xerxasa nat routeur 03:00
xerxasI use dput -P 03:00
sistpotyhm...03:00
xerxasrouter , routeur is in french :) 03:01
xerxashey ! 03:01
xerxasdone ! 03:01
xerxasand the diff.gz: done also 03:01
xerxasok , uploaded ! :) 03:02
sistpotynice...03:02
xerxassistpoty:  did you change something ? 03:02
sistpotyxerxas: no03:02
xerxasdo you have an idea why is it so long to start uploading the first file, and the it goes fast ?03:02
xerxass/the/then/03:02
sistpotyxerxas: not really03:03
sistpotyxerxas: the vsftpd log doesn't show anything unusual also03:04
xerxasok , nevermind, I don't upload to often on revu :) 03:04
xerxasnext try I'll add a -d 03:04
sistpotyhehe03:04
sistpotymight as well be a dns lookup, though I'm not really sure how the ftp server of tiber is configured03:05
xerxasok ok 03:07
xerxascan be dns, right 03:07
xerxaswhen things are slow, it's often a dns problem :) 03:07
sistpotyhehe03:08
xerxasmy lintian report says I have .svn directories 03:08
xerxashow do I re-upload when I corrected the problem ? 03:08
sistpotyxerxas: simply dput again...03:09
xerxasok03:09
xerxasthx03:09
xerxas03:08 AM , gone sleep ! :)03:09
sistpotyxerxas: every 10 minutes a cronjob runs, and moves valid uploads to revu, so incoming is cleared again03:09
xerxasok 03:09
xerxasgot it 03:09
sistpoty(unless the upload is not valid, than the cronjob leaves some trash behind) 03:09
xerxasok 03:09
xerxasthanks for everything 03:10
xerxasbye ! 03:10
sistpotycya03:10
bddebianlaterz03:11
ryanakcasistpoty: back, sorry, I was helping my mum out with her kubuntu live CD ;)03:15
ryanakcasistpoty: ok, if I uninstall gpgagent, I can't use GPG in KMail / Kontact...03:16
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sistpotyryanakca: you could try to use -us -uc as dpkg-buildpackage arguments, to not have your packages signed03:20
sistpotyryanakca: and then use debsign to sign the stuff you want to upload03:20
sistpotyryanakca: though it looks that somehow debsign is invoked there in the first place03:21
ryanakcahmm... kk, I'll try that...03:21
ryanakcaoh?03:21
sistpotyryanakca: I'm not really familiar with gpgagent... doesn't make any problems for me at last :)03:21
ryanakcaand you're running it?03:22
sistpotyryanakca: I have it installed, but it doesn't look like I'm running it03:22
ryanakcakk... dpkg-buildpackage -us and dpkg-buildpackage -uc both give me:03:23
ryanakcadpkg-buildpackage: source package is solseek03:23
ryanakcadpkg-buildpackage: source version is 0.8a-0ubuntu103:23
ryanakcadpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Ryan Kavanagh <ryanakca@gmail.com>03:23
ryanakcadpkg-buildpackage: host architecture i38603:23
ryanakcadpkg-buildpackage: source version without epoch 0.8a-0ubuntu103:24
ryanakca debian/rules clean03:24
ryanakcatest -x debian/rules03:24
ryanakcatest "`id -u`" = 003:24
ryanakcamake: *** [testroot]  Error 103:24
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sistpotyryanakca: -rfakeroot?03:24
sistpotyryanakca: how did you build the package in the first place? with debuild?03:24
ryanakcayeah03:25
sistpotyryanakca: you can simply pass dpkg-buildpackage arguments to debuild as well03:25
sistpotyryanakca: e.g. debuild -us -uc03:25
ryanakcaumm... why is it running threw the whole configure?03:26
ryanakcaand make... I just want to create the .dsc...03:27
crimsunprobably timestamp skew.03:27
crimsunerr, do you mean in the clean target?03:27
ryanakcatimestamp skew?03:27
sistpotyryanakca: debuild -S -us -uc?03:27
crimsunobviously if you use ``debuild -us -uc'' it'll configure && make ...03:28
sistpotyryanakca: otherwise debuild will build a binary package03:28
ryanakcaah... you learn something new every day :)03:28
=== ryanakca thought you meant use -us -uc instead of -S -sa :)
sistpotyryanakca: nope... -us -> don't sign .dsc -uc -> don't sign changes file03:28
sistpoty-S -> build source package -sa -> include orig.tar.gz03:29
sistpoty(or the other way round)03:29
ryanakcakk03:29
ryanakcaso, debuild -us -uc -S -sa03:29
bddebianno03:29
sistpotyyep... or dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -S -sa -us -uc 03:29
bddebianyep?03:30
sistpotyno?03:30
bddebian aren't -us -uc and -sa antithetical?03:30
crimsun-us -uc are only signing-related03:30
bddebianYeah03:30
sistpotybddebian: no, I use dpkg-buildpackage that way quite often ;)03:30
ryanakcakk, thanks... now I can stick something into pbuilder to warm up my CPU on this chilly winter night :)03:31
sistpotynp03:32
bddebianDoh, I always thought -sa was "sign ..." doh03:35
Nafallolol03:36
Nafallobddebian: good one ;-)03:36
bddebianWell I was actually thinking like sign all but OK ;-)03:37
crimsunbddebian's kids have been putting the good stuff into his coffee again.03:37
Nafallocrimsun: lol03:38
bddebian:'-(03:38
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DallerWho do I contact when I have a driver (for a tablet) that I would like to get into universe, or even installed per default?03:49
DallerBTW: It's GPL!03:50
LathiatDaller: is it a kernel driver or what?03:51
DallerNot an in-kernel driver - No!03:51
DallerSee this:03:51
Dallerhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetupWizardpen03:51
DallerIt's a ".so" driver to be placed in "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/"03:52
DallerI have hundreds of people contacting me about the guide, and it would be great to be able to cut down, or even remove the "download and install" part...03:54
Lathiathrm03:55
Lathiatfile a wishlist bug against Xorg i guess03:55
Lathiator well you could probably package it independently03:55
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DallerOh, great idea... I could be installed alongside xorg and all the other modules...03:56
DallerThx03:56
DallerIs there a good guide to get started with packaging?03:57
Hobbsee!packagingguide03:57
ubotuThe packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources03:57
DallerA file and a destination should be quite easy :D ?03:57
DallerWell, Thx... I'm on my way to bed anyway...03:59
DallerWell, now that I'm here, and you have links to both the wiki and the doc.facility - what exactly is the difference between the wiki, help.ubuntu.com and the doc.facility?04:01
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LaserJockzul: it was more than a few minutes04:17
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sistpotygn8 everyone04:24
Hobbseenight sistpoty 04:24
somerville32Can we strongly encourage people to add links to package long descriptions? :)04:32
Hobbseesomerville32: yes.  dont let it thru REVU without it04:33
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somerville32The script I uses extracts links from the long description so it helps make Feisty Changes in the UWN a whole lot easier :)04:36
somerville32(as we have to hunt down the changelog)04:36
Hobbseeah :)04:37
rexbronwhat is the policy on revu when two people package the same version of software?04:52
Hobbseerexbron: pick the better one?  or take the fixes, adn combine them?04:53
Hobbseedunno if it's happened before04:53
Hobbseeseeing as it's explicitly said to check revu before making a new package04:53
rexbronthink is there are no fixes just a new upstream release04:53
rexbronthe only difference is that I used CDBS and he used the regular debhelper04:54
rexbron*thing04:54
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Hobbseerexbron: which is it?04:58
rexbronmurrine04:58
rexbronill get the upid04:58
Hobbseethanks04:58
rexbronHobbsee: 3953 for the latest (I am listed and andy.hunter@rogers.com). Mine is two behind it.04:59
rexbronI am working with the ubuntu studio project and crimsun04:59
Hobbseerexbron: -murrine (0.40.1-0ubuntu1) feisty; urgency=low is yours, then?05:01
rexbronya05:01
rexbronthe other one does not follow ubuntu versioning05:01
rexbronunless it has been added to debian in the last 24 hours05:01
Hobbseeyou're correct there, and wrong release ,etc05:02
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somerville32Actually, Hobbsee, want to help me finish pyNeighborhood?05:03
Hobbseerexbron: do you know if Matteo Giordano <ilmalteo@gmail.com> is on irc?05:03
rexbronnope05:03
rexbronHe is not with Ubuntu Studio...05:04
Hobbseesomerville32: not overly :P05:04
rexbronafaik05:04
somerville32Hobbsee, Ca'mon! We might learn something :D05:04
rexbronlearning is fun05:04
rexbronand painful at times05:04
Hobbseerexbron: true.  i think i'll take yours, looking at this.  he's uploaded it hours later than you have, and clealry hasnt checked REVU first05:05
rexbronHobbsee: ok05:05
rexbronglad I was able to get an official opinion on this05:05
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somerville32Hobbsee, Do I have to compress the changelog?05:06
Hobbseerexbron: i wouldnt bet on it being official :P05:07
Hobbseesomerville32: sorry?05:07
rexbron"official"05:07
somerville32E: pyneighborhood: changelog-file-not-compressed changelog.Debian05:07
somerville32E: pyneighborhood: changelog-file-not-compressed changelog05:07
somerville32E: pyneighborhood: changelog-file-not-compressed Changelog05:07
bddebianYes, you have to compress them, I just ran into that :-(05:07
somerville32Wait... am I suppose to use linda or lintian?05:07
bddebianBoth05:07
somerville32Are some of the warnings permissible?05:08
bddebianThe NMU ones :-)05:08
somerville32define: NMU05:08
bddebianNon-Maintainer Upload05:08
somerville32Please elaborate :)05:08
bddebianIf you don't have an error about NMU, don't worry about it :-)05:09
somerville32W: pyneighborhood; The command /usr/bin/gksudo /usr/bin/pyneighborhood listed in a menu file does not exist.05:09
somerville32Is that permissible?05:09
Hobbseerexbron: there you go :)05:10
bddebianHmm, possibly.  I'm not sure about that one05:10
rexbronHobbsee: thanks05:10
somerville32What does this one mean? W: pyneighborhood; File /usr/lib/pyenighborhood/config.py contained in /usr/lib of Architecture: all package.05:11
rexbronHobbsee: Sugestions on how to version the condenced changelog?05:12
minghuathat mean the config.py file should go to /usr/share/ instead05:13
bddebiansomerville32: Try running lintian -i, it should give you clues05:13
rexbronHobbsee: also, Andrew is mentioned in the copyright file. I can add him else where if you deem it approprate05:13
Hobbseerexbron: i'd just do it in the changelog. as well *shrug*05:15
Hobbseesure05:15
rexbronHobbsee: My issue is with how to name it? reupload with all of the 0.31 stuff added to the 0.40.1 changelog?05:16
Hobbseerexbron: actually, you could probably put "new upstream version, original packaging by andrew mitchell" or something - i dont think you need to include the rest05:16
Hobbseeoh, yeah05:16
Hobbsee  * Added clean rule to remove config.guess and config.status <-- you probably want to keep that in05:17
rexbronthat is fixed05:17
Hobbseerexbron: hrm.  basically, leave the stuff that might be useful to people who look to hack on it in future, but axe the rest05:17
rexbronok05:17
Hobbseeall you really need in there is "initial release, original packaging by..."05:18
somerville32Do I need the dh_py* scripts if I'm not compiling the python source?05:24
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lifelessyes05:25
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lifelessthe dh_py scripts dont compile python source05:26
somerville32What do they do?05:26
lifelesspython modules are compiled at install time05:26
somerville32Right05:26
somerville32Ok05:26
lifelessthey move things in to the right place and add the right postinst hooks etc to make it work05:26
somerville32So if I don't have any python modules, do I need dh_py* scripts?05:26
lifelesslets not play twenty questions ok05:27
lifelesstell me what you have05:27
somerville32I'm trying to package pyNeighborhood05:27
somerville32It has a Makefile that compiles the source code and installs it using install05:27
somerville32So I created a patch to disable compiling the source code05:28
somerville32There are no modules05:28
lifelessis the source C or .py ?05:28
somerville32py05:28
lifelesswhen you say there are no modules, what is there05:29
lifelessgimme a clue05:29
somerville32Just a bunch of py files in the top level of the package05:29
lifelessand where are they installed 05:29
somerville32        install -d $(DESTDIR)/$(PREFIX)/share/pyNeighborhood/src05:30
somerville32        install --mode=644 *.py $(DESTDIR)/$(PREFIX)/share/pyNeighborhood/src05:30
lifelessdoes it work when it installed ?05:30
somerville32Yes.05:30
lifelessvia the package ?05:30
somerville32Yes. I've installed my package and I can launch it from the menu05:31
lifelessweird05:31
bddebianAye05:31
lifelesswell yes, you do have python modules05:31
lifelessthats whats known as private modules, because no other python program can get at them05:31
lifelessand IIRC python policy has a means to handle them too for the many python versions issue05:31
superuserhello all05:32
somerville32But there is no __init__.py file 05:32
lifelessso in short, if you install .py files, you need dh_py* - or do what they do by hand - if you can figure that out05:32
lifelesssomerville32: so what ?05:32
bddebianHello superuser05:32
lifelesssomerville32: a __init__.py file makes a directory into a python package, nothing to do with the module-or-not status of .py files.05:33
superuserbddebian i wanted to askk you how hurd was05:33
somerville32Ok... so I'll just leave the dh_py* stuff05:33
bddebiansuperuser: In here? :)05:33
superuserbddebian that was where you told me you ran it :p05:34
bddebianAh05:34
bddebianWell it's slow going as usual but there has finally been some gnumach work lately05:34
harrisonyi have a question about pbuilder everytime i create a package will it have to download and create an environment every time i create a package05:35
superuserah ok that is good i probably want to test it05:35
bddebianharrisony: I don't quite understand your question05:35
lifelessharrisony: no it wont05:36
lifelessharrisony: it will cache05:36
rexbronHobbsee: new upload with changes is on its way (same version as before)05:36
Hobbseerexbron: yay :005:36
rexbronmight take some time (for some reason REVU always does)05:37
Hobbseeyeah, it only processes uploads every 5 min, iirc05:37
rexbronthat is understandable, its why my uploads are slower than normal (high load maybe)05:38
Hobbseedunno, shouldnt be.05:38
LaserJocksomerville32: in general if you run lintian -i on the .dsc and .deb it'll give you more diagnostic info05:44
rexbronHobbsee: Ok, its up on revu. If you would be so kind05:44
rexbronHobbsee: ping05:53
Hobbseerexbron: heya05:53
rexbronHobbsee: see above?05:54
rexbronit would be much appreciated05:54
Hobbseerexbron: yep05:54
rexbronthanks05:54
Hobbseerexbron: testbuilding05:56
rexbronno issues I hope?05:58
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Hobbseerexbron: looks good to me06:01
rexbronyay06:01
rexbron(I had some Ubuntu Studio people test it out no problem, so this is good)06:02
Hobbseerexbron: advocated. 06:03
Hobbseebddebian: poke06:03
rexbronthanks Hobbsee, you made my evening!06:05
rexbronand now for sleep06:05
Hobbsee:)06:05
Hobbseerexbron: i'm hoping someone will be around to give the second ack06:06
bddebianHobbsee: Yo06:10
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Hobbseebddebian: did you want to review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3956 ?06:10
Hobbseebddebian: it looks good to me06:11
bddebianHobbsee: Sure, I'll check it in the morning.  It's almost beddy bye time here :-)06:12
Hobbseebddebian: awww06:12
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bddebianalright, alright, I'm looking at it.. Sheesh :-)06:13
Hobbseehehe06:15
Hobbseegood bddebian :)06:15
bddebianheh06:16
bddebianHobbsee: This means you have to look at my pegsolitaire for me then ;-P06:17
Hobbseebddebian: do i now?06:17
Hobbseebddebian: where is it?06:17
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bddebianShould be on REVu06:17
bddebianHobbsee: OK, looks good to me.  Upload away :-)06:20
Hobbseebddebian: OK06:22
Hobbseebddebian: excellent!06:23
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Hobbseerexbron: uploaded :)06:23
Hobbseerexbron: you should get an email, and it should go thru NEW sometime in the next millenium :P06:23
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bddebianHobbsee: Only about 1000000000 to go ;-P06:26
Hobbseehehe06:27
Hobbseeawww, drat06:29
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LaserJockHobbsee: can/did you email ubuntu-motu with a REVU: email?06:33
bddebianDamn you two are slave drivers ;-P06:34
HobbseeLaserJock: nope.  damn.06:35
HobbseeLaserJock: what do i put in it?06:35
Hobbseejust "murrine is uploaded?"06:35
Hobbseedone06:36
LaserJockdarn it, she left06:46
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crimsunarg06:52
crimsunI should have asked for murrine to -not- be uploaded until I had reviewed it06:52
crimsunguess that's what happens when people are overzealous to get their source package in06:53
bddebiancrimsun: Something wrong with it?06:54
crimsun/usr/{s,}bin should not be in dirs06:55
bddebianTrue but it's not problematic is it?06:55
crimsunno, but neither is not having the licenses clarified, no?06:56
bddebianclarified?06:56
crimsunit's to be the default engine in UbuntuStudio, and I wanted to make sure everything was covered06:57
bddebianOh, I wasn't aware of that.  But from what I see, the license appears to be OK06:58
crimsunah, I see.06:59
crimsunCREDITS should be added to docs.07:00
StevenKcrimsun: Ask an archive admin to kill it from NEW?07:00
crimsunthat was the remaining point, since I know we had issues with murrine's pedigree not being cited07:00
bddebian:-(07:00
crimsunStevenK: will do07:01
StevenKAnd then lambast away on REVU? :-)07:01
bddebiancrimsun: Sorry man07:07
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crimsunbddebian: not your fault, 'night07:07
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nixternaloh no, jmantha is here, everyone hide07:37
crimsunnah, it's ok, it's just the laserjock imposter07:38
nixternalwhew07:39
nixternalthought it was an invasion07:39
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LaserJockanybody happen to know what mozilla-config is?08:02
crimsunprobably pkgconfig script/info.08:03
harrisony!info mozilla-config08:04
ubotuPackage mozilla-config does not exist in any distro I know08:04
LaserJockI can't figure out which package would provide it08:06
crimsunnone, afaik08:07
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LaserJockbah, gotta get to bed08:11
crimsunright, so substitute firefox-config for mozilla-config08:11
LaserJockI'll have to figure it out tomorrow08:11
LaserJockh08:11
LaserJockah08:11
crimsunand b-d on firefox-dev08:11
LaserJockk08:11
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palskiCould someone sponsor the Bug #74862 and upload the debdiff to egdy-proposed?09:15
UbugtuMalone bug 74862 in kxdocker "[SRU]  kxdocker doesnt open in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7486209:15
crimsunuploaded, u-a subbed.09:25
crimsunnote the SRU versioning change09:25
palskicrimsun: thank you, and yes I forgot that new versioning style, sorry about that09:29
imbrandon[309:43
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poningru_whats the process of having a package imported from debian?10:15
StevenKA sync10:15
poningru_link?10:15
StevenKIf you're no MOTU, you can't do it anyway. Which package?10:16
poningru_alpine10:16
tepsipakkialpine is already in debian?10:16
StevenKThat doesn't even look to be in Debian.10:16
poningru_my friend just uploaded it10:18
StevenKI see that10:18
poningru_he just wanted to help with getting it into ubuntu10:18
tepsipakkiwhere can it be found?10:18
tepsipakkiit's still buggy, btw :)10:19
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StevenKIt has interesting dependancies.10:19
poningru_http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/alpine10:19
StevenKYes, I'm looking at that now.10:19
poningru_the other one is http://packages.debian.org/unstable/otherosfs/ccd2iso10:20
tepsipakkiStevenK: interesting in what sense?10:20
StevenKlibc6 (>= 2.3.5-1) [not alpha, i386, ia64] , libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) [i386] , libc6.1 (>= 2.3.5-1) [alpha, ia64] 10:21
tepsipakkiah10:21
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poningru_blargh?10:22
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poningru_:)10:25
poningru_this guy is the packager ^^^10:25
poningru_paulproteus10:25
paulproteusHey now everybody now. (-:10:25
poningru_StevenK, tepsipakki ^^10:26
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tepsipakkicool, I'll try to compile alpine on dapper10:29
paulproteusAwesome.10:29
StevenKDapper!?10:29
tepsipakkithat's what we have10:29
tepsipakki220+ workstations10:29
StevenKGive me a tick and I'll try it on Feisty.10:30
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tepsipakki(we = Helsinki University of Tech.)10:30
poningru_woah nice10:30
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StevenKI think it was.10:31
tepsipakkiyep10:31
paulproteustepsipakki, FYI, Alpine is in alpha still, but I use it daily and I've had no problems with 0.81.10:31
StevenKWhy can I only get 8KB/s to mirror.pacific.net.au, I have no idea.10:31
tepsipakkipaulproteus: I tried 0.8 the day it got out, but had some issues with it..10:31
tepsipakkiminor, though10:32
paulproteus0.81 fixes some bugs I experienced (crashes on weird character set stuff, headers couldn't be ^k ^u'd).10:32
tepsipakkibut we have also Tru64, Solaris, MacOSX to take care of..10:32
StevenKTru64. *shiver*10:32
tepsipakkiheh10:33
tepsipakkiI'm a certified Tru64&Trucluster admin, mind you ;)10:33
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tepsipakkiwell, it's being used less and less10:35
poningru_eek10:35
poningru_crazy people10:35
tepsipakkibut one of our two general purpose shell-servers is a Tru64 machine (ES40), the other is a Solaris (V880)10:36
paulproteusNice, an ES40!10:36
tepsipakkithey can handle ~1000 users without much trouble10:37
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tepsipakkinormally around 800 each10:37
tepsipakkiunique id's10:37
poningru_damn10:38
paulproteusWell, it's way late, and I'm going to finally go to bed.10:40
paulproteusA warning re: alpine: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=40535010:40
UbugtuDebian bug 405350 in alpine "alpine: implicit pointer conversions" [Important,Open]  10:40
tepsipakkidapper pbuilder went fine10:41
tepsipakkion alpine10:41
paulproteusI haven't tried using it on e.g. amd64, so I'd appreciate some feedback on if that autogenerated bug is correct.10:41
paulproteustepsipakki, I had my fingers crossed. (-:10:41
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StevenKI'm about to build it on amd6410:41
tepsipakkipaulproteus: have you forwarded that upstream?10:42
paulproteustepsipakki, I did, but they didn't seem to care.10:42
paulproteusThat was only a day or two ago, so maybe they're going to work on it behind the scenes and just didn't get back to me.10:42
StevenKWhy, because sizeof(void *) == sizeof(int) on the arches they care about?10:42
tepsipakkiah, there it was10:42
paulproteusStevenK, Well, pine historically runs on every freaking thing on the planet, so I imagine they care about most architectures/OS setups.10:43
paulproteusMaybe they use the function pointer in a way that works but the compiler doesn't see that it'll work.10:44
paulproteusI don't know, I'm going to bed for now.  Good night, all! (-:10:44
siretart*gulp* there are still ppl using pine and elm?10:44
StevenKThere's still people using Windows 95. Perhaps they're all masochists.10:45
StevenKsmtp.c:178: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size10:46
StevenKOh, bozos.10:46
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StevenKThis thing *really* needs a hard run under valgrind and gcc -pedantic10:49
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StevenKThere's more lines of warnings than gcc calls.10:49
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tepsipakkiheh10:53
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tepsipakkican a pkg.install -file have exclude-rules in it?10:57
StevenKI don't think so, but the dh_install command line can.10:58
tepsipakkiyes, that I knew10:58
tepsipakkidarn10:58
tepsipakkiit would be cool10:58
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Hobbseecrimsun: OK11:39
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crimsunHobbsee: there's no need to "stay away from REVUing further" :)11:43
Hobbseecrimsun: why?11:44
Hobbseecrimsun: is there some sort of checklist, for all the required stuff?   and dont tell me debian maintainers guide :P11:44
crimsunHobbsee: because it's not your fault the packager didn't do his job11:44
Hobbseecrimsun: it's my fault that i didnt know better to point it out though.11:45
crimsuneh, none of us are perfect; we're all learning through it11:45
crimsunexcept for maybe imbrandon, bddebian, and laserjock11:45
Hobbseebddebian was the second ack :P11:46
xerxas_Hi all 11:46
xerxas_http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/libtapioca-cil-0701032100/lintian11:46
xerxas_the only thing I need to take into account is that I need to remove .svn directories, right ?11:47
crimsunyou could do that, certainly11:48
crimsunyou may also want to clean up debian/control11:48
crimsunand tweak debian/changelog's version11:49
xerxas_clean debian/control ? 11:49
crimsunyes, as in check the build-dependencies11:50
crimsuncdbs being listed twice, etc.11:51
xerxas_oops 11:51
xerxas_didn't saw that 11:51
crimsunyou may also wish to reformat debian/copyright; those lines are in excess of 72 characters for certain11:51
xerxas_crimsun, the upstream url is more than 72 chars11:53
xerxas_what should I do ? 11:53
Hobbseetinyurl it?11:54
xerxas_it's an svn url 11:55
tepsipakkihow long do tinyurls work11:55
xerxas_I mean my upstream url is "svn co http://[...] " 11:55
xerxas_anyway, that should work with svn , but I don't want to have tinyurl for that package 11:56
LutinI though the limit was 80 char in copyright11:57
xerxas_indeed, it seems to be 8011:58
xerxas_crimsun, what do you mean by "tweak the debian/changelog's version" ? 12:01
xerxas_add the svn suffix ? 12:01
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Hobbseexerxas_: current version is wrong, it sounds like12:04
xerxas_Hobbsee,  why ? 12:04
Hobbseelibtapioca-cil (0ubuntu1-1) feisty; urgency=low12:05
Hobbseewhat's the upstream version?12:05
xerxas_it's an svn version 12:06
xerxas_(I'm gone, people are waiting for me for lunch) 12:06
crimsunxerxas_: it's not the URL that matters; it's the upstream license text that will cause wrapping12:07
crimsunxerxas_: if the svn version is truly 0, then you'd still want 0-0ubuntu1 (which looks -really- odd); I kinda doubt that's the case, though, so the standard practise is to use 0.svnYYYYMMDD-0ubuntu1 or something of that sort12:09
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xerxas_crimsun, ? 01:52
xerxas_how do I change the version ? 01:52
xerxas_directly within debian/changelog ? 01:52
xerxas_or with dh_make ? 01:53
Hobbseexerxas_: run dch02:00
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xerxas_Hobbsee,  ahh ,right ! 02:00
xerxas_thanks :)02:00
xerxas_Hobbsee,  dch is only modifying debian/changelog ? 02:03
azeemxerxas_: yes02:04
xerxas_This package has a Debian revision number but there does not seem to be02:05
xerxas_an appropriate original tar file or .orig directory in the parent directory;02:05
xerxas_(expected libtapioca-cil_0.14.svn20070104.orig.tar.gz or tapioca-sharp-0.14.svn20070103-0ubuntu1.orig)02:05
xerxas_continue anyway? (y/n)02:05
xerxas_I must create the directory to have diffs ? 02:06
xerxas_so I need to svn co , then find . -name ".svn" |xargs rm {} \; 02:06
xerxas_then mv tapioca-sharp tapioca-sharp-0.14.svn20070103-0ubuntu1.orig02:06
xerxas_is that right ? 02:06
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xerxas_can someone have a look at my package ?02:21
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xerxas_http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=395502:22
cypherbiosxerxas_: I recommend to remove the subversion control dirs, (aka .svn directories)02:25
cypherbiosxerxas_: it from original tarball, of course02:25
xerxas_cypherbios,  it's already done 02:25
cypherbiosxerxas_: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/libtapioca-cil-0701032100/lintian02:25
xerxas_xerxas@xerxas-laptop:~/contrib/tapioca-sharp$ find . -name ".svn"02:26
xerxas_xerxas@xerxas-laptop:~/contrib/tapioca-sharp$02:26
xerxas_I don't understand then 02:26
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xerxas_that's right, yesterday I uploaded some .svn , but now, I think there aren't anymore any .svn directories, or I don't understand where it comes from02:26
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cypherbiosxerxas_: try it02:27
cypherbiosxerxas_: find . -type d -iregex '.*\.svn$$'  -print | xargs rm -rf02:27
xerxas_xerxas@xerxas-laptop:~/contrib/tapioca-sharp$ find . -type d -iregex '.*\.svn$$'02:28
xerxas_xerxas@xerxas-laptop:~/contrib/tapioca-sharp$02:28
xerxas_I don't master "find" as you do :) 02:28
xerxas_what are those iregex ? 02:28
xerxas_tar tvf libtapioca-cil_0.14.svn20070104.orig.tar.gz |grep \/\.svn02:29
xerxas_I need to grep for '/.svn' since my version contains svn in the name 02:30
cypherbiosxerxas_: so try one directory uppon: find ... -type d -iregex '.*\.svn$$'  -print | xargs rm -rf02:30
cypherbiosops02:30
xerxas_.. 02:30
xerxas_got it 02:30
cypherbiosxerxas_: yeah, exactly02:30
xerxas_but anyway , I'm in the directory where all files are 02:30
xerxas_I have nothing in .. 02:30
xerxas_I mean , in the directory I am I have my source tree, my dsc, my orig.gz ... 02:31
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cypherbiosxerxas_: another thing...02:34
cypherbiosxerxas_: what is the version of your package?02:34
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xerxas_cypherbios,  http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/libtapioca-cil-0701040815/lintian02:37
xerxas_we weren't looking at the correct lintian 02:37
xerxas_cypherbios,  the version is 0.14.svn20070104-0ubuntu102:38
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cypherbiosxerxas_: oh, sure. You gave the old link :)02:38
xerxas_ahh ok , I gave the wrong upid , ok :)02:39
cypherbiosxerxas_: ah, much better now :)02:40
xerxas_:)02:40
xerxas_cypherbios,  sth more ? 02:43
xerxas_or are you currently looking at it ? 02:43
cypherbiosxerxas_: ah, sorry. I'm not an reviewer, I just taking a look for curiosity :)02:44
xerxas_ok 02:44
xerxas_some to review my package here ? 02:44
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cypherbiosxerxas_: the Standard-Version on debian/control should be 3.7.2.202:46
cypherbiosStandards-Version: 3.7.2.202:46
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xerxas_cypherbios,  this standards-Version was generated by dh_make I think02:54
cypherbiosxerxas_: yes, but you need to change to 3.7.2.202:55
xerxas_ok , no problem 02:55
cypherbiosxerxas_: someone said it for me, bddebian or Hobbsee I think :)02:55
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cypherbiosHobbsee: :)03:01
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giskardciao03:33
xerxas_Hi giskard  03:39
xerxas_giskard,  I have a package that seems to work for tapioca-sharp 03:39
xerxas_next step landell 03:39
giskardxerxas, cool! 03:39
xerxas_giskard,  I need to make tapioca-sharp reviewed 03:39
xerxas_(giskard, happy new year and best wishes) 03:40
giskardwhere is the package? (thank you, same to you :) )03:40
xerxas_http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=396103:40
xerxas_I have a bzr branch also in the telepathy team for tapioca-sharp 03:41
xerxas_can someone review my package ? 03:41
xerxas_http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=396103:41
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bddebianHeya gang03:48
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xerxas_Hi 03:53
xerxas_bddebian,  you're a motu, right ? 03:53
bddebianSome might debate that but sure :-)03:54
xerxas_bddebian,  :) 03:56
xerxas_could you review my package ?03:56
xerxas_http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=396103:57
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Lutinxerxas_: I think b-ds are not all correct, you should check the mono packaging policy on alioth ;)04:00
xerxas_b-ds ? 04:00
Lutinxerxas_: build-dependancies04:00
xerxas_ok 04:00
xerxas_I think I followed the cli packaging policy 04:01
LutinI think you're also forgetting a depends: field (I think something like cli:Depends exists)04:01
xerxas_but maybe I misread some stuff 04:01
Nafallosiretart: ping transitional -extracodecs04:01
Lutinxerxas_: and iirc debian/docs is useless as the docs you listed in are automagically packaged when using debhelper.mk in debian/rules04:02
mr_pouitxerxas, I am not sure, but I think it should at least B-D on mono-gmcs (>= 1.1.8) | c-sharp-2.0-compiler, cli-common-dev (>= 0.4.4) ;)04:03
xerxas_Lutin,  thanks for your comments 04:03
xerxas_mr_pouit, you're not sure ? 04:03
Lutincli-common-dev (>= 0.4.0) according to the policy draft04:03
mr_pouitxerxas, I re-read cli policy each time I need it ^^04:03
xerxas_mr_pouit,  ok 04:04
xerxas_xerxas@xerxas-laptop:/usr/lib/tapioca-sharp$ ls -l04:04
xerxas_total 5604:04
xerxas_-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 41472 2007-01-04 14:20 INdT.Tapioca.dll04:04
xerxas_-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  7168 2007-01-04 14:20 NDesk.DBus.GLib.dll04:04
xerxas_-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   232 2007-01-04 14:20 NDesk.DBus.GLib.dll.config04:04
xerxas_how do I set those file not executable ? 04:04
Lutinxerxas_: see http://pkg-mono.alioth.debian.org/cli-policy/ch-packaging.html point 3.1.4 for the b-ds04:04
xerxas_oops 04:04
xerxas_it's written in the doc 04:04
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Lutinxerxas_: the doc also says you have to use some dh_cli stuff in rules iirc04:05
siretartNafallo: ?04:05
Lutinxerxas_: http://pkg-mono.alioth.debian.org/cli-policy/ch-appendix.html#s-cdbs-example04:06
Nafallosiretart: ah. I think I will need some coffee :-)04:06
siretartNafallo: I just upgraded my ws remotley, it upgraded -extracodecs to -ffmpeg as expected04:07
siretartNafallo: we may now start to argue that users will loose the arts and the esd plugin04:07
Nafallosiretart: yea. I forgot I have to upgrade to see the deps in synaptic :-)04:07
siretartNafallo: the thing is, that actually what I wanted, so it doesn't need to be installed where it's needed, and it's impossible to detect if it is04:08
Nafalloyepp. I like it :-)04:08
siretartNafallo: so we have 2 options: ignoring the issue or adding -kde to kubuntu-desktop and -gnome to ubuntu-desktop04:08
siretartI tend to ignore this for now, but I'm open for suggestions04:08
Nafalloif totem-xine is standard for ubuntu-desktop we could do that, but it isn't :-P04:09
siretartright04:09
siretartbut I think it is for kubuntu and xubuntu04:09
Nafallohmm, maybe a dep of totem-xine? :-)04:09
siretartnot totem, but stuff depending on xine04:09
siretartlike, say, amarok04:09
bddebianxerxas_: So don't review it?04:10
xerxas_bddebian,  not for now :)04:10
xerxas_thanks anyway 04:10
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bddebianNP.  Apparently I'm a lousy reviewer anyway :-)04:10
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Lutinbddebian: if you have 5 min, could you review kayali ? :)04:11
xerxas_bddebian,  :)04:12
jikanterIs there a way to build a package locally without uploading?  when I use dh_builddeb it seems to upload automatically.04:12
xerxas_${cli:Depends} is a b-ds ? 04:14
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Lutinxerxas_: no, it's a Depends:04:16
xerxas_yep 04:16
xerxas_found it in an other package :)04:17
xerxas_thanks, anyway 04:17
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bddebianLutin: I still get all those permission errors :-(04:38
Lutinbddebian: really ?04:40
Lutinbddebian: weird... I chacked on my system and everything was fine04:41
bddebianYou ran linda on the .deb?04:41
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Lutinbddebian: yep04:41
bddebianHmm04:41
Lutinbddebian: no linda warinings here04:42
Lutin(edgy system though)04:42
bddebianWhat's the date?  I have Jan 2 here04:42
Lutinbddebian: seems to be the same04:43
LutinI rebuild it to make sure it's ok on my box and then re-upload it04:43
Nafalloit's Jan 4 today...04:43
Nafallo:-P04:43
LutinNafallo: I uploaded it two days ago, that makes sense :p04:44
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Lutinbddebian: should be ok now, I just checked the version I uploaded and it semmes to be ok04:48
Lutinat least, no linda W: 04:49
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bddebianLutin: OK04:54
bddebianLutin: Looks good, nice job05:07
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Lutinbddebian: thanks :)05:10
Lutinbddebian: btw, gfaim was rejected by the archive-admins dur to some problems. I reuploaded it to revu, could you have a look at it to see if it's ok when you'll have some time ?05:13
bddebianLutin: Do you know why they rejected it?05:20
Lutinbddebian: orig tarball was containing the binary and no license information in english (was french only)05:21
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Lutinand an issue with a copyright file, as I created a per-package copyright file which seems to be wrong  :)05:22
bddebianah05:25
LutinI commented it in the upload05:26
bddebianOK05:28
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Nafallois MoM stopped?05:56
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nixternalanyone have some time to do bug #7705705:57
UbugtuMalone bug 77057 in smb4k "Please sync smb4k (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7705705:57
Nafallonixternal: what about it for us to do?05:59
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bddebianNafallo: Several weeks ago06:00
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Nafallobddebian: damn :-(06:00
gesernixternal: ubuntu-archive needs some time to catch up after the holidays06:02
xerxashttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=396606:02
xerxascan someone review that ?06:02
xerxasplease06:03
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xerxasbddebian:  you can review my package now 06:08
Nafallowave-look would be good to have reviewed... ;-)06:08
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bddebianxerxas: OK06:16
bddebianNafallo: So get reviewing ;-P06:16
xerxas:)06:16
Nafallobddebian: some other day. I need to do those other first :-)06:19
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Riddellwho runs UbuntuSt1ts?06:21
bddebianNo clue06:21
bddebianWow, I didn't know Riddell lowered himself enough to be in -motu? ;-P06:21
Riddellbddebian: I've always been in -motu, I go anywhere that's important to Kubuntu06:23
bddebianI'm just giving you a hard time :)06:24
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somerville32Riddell: Why da ya want to know? :)06:28
Riddellsomerville32: wanted to know what it did, but found out.  http://ubuntustats.homelinux.org/ubuntu-motu/06:29
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somerville32:)06:29
somerville32Oh wow. I'm on the list of most active people.06:29
zorglu_me too :)06:30
zorglu_i dont get the 'lastdays' number tho06:31
somerville32My nick is the most used word in x-devel, lol. crazy06:33
somerville32Anyhows... 06:33
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bddebianman, laserjock really is sick :-)06:37
bddebianxerxas: Still a couple of linda/lintian warnings06:37
Riddellzorglu_: how much talk there has been in each of the last 30 days06:38
zorglu_Riddell: oh ok, so the 0 column being today06:39
zorglu_thanks06:39
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xerxasbddebian:  do you have an idea how can I fix that ? 06:55
xerxasI have a target install in debian/rules 06:55
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LaserJockmorning MOTU people07:07
hubam I the only to have problem update the feisty pbuilder because the vim package is *broken*?07:08
LaserJockhmm, let me check07:09
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hubsince yesterday07:10
hubfiled a launchpad bug07:10
LaserJockI created a new feisty pbuilder last night and it went ok07:10
hubI think installing the package for the first time works07:11
LaserJockI'm updating my other feisty pbuilder right now to see07:11
LaserJockand vim is in the list of packages to update07:11
hubhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vim/+bug/7772607:11
UbugtuMalone bug 77726 in vim "can't upgrade vim" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  07:11
LaserJockit should be easy to use an apt-cacher with pbuilder right?07:13
LaserJockhub: mine updated but it did spit out a couple of warnings07:16
hubmine didn't07:16
LaserJock4 lines like: dpkg: warning - unable to delete old directory `/usr/share/man/ru.UTF-8/man1': Directory not empty07:16
LaserJockall related to ru07:16
LaserJockother then that it was a clean update07:17
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hubin my case it fsck up07:17
hubis there somebody to specifically triage bugs in launchpad?07:17
LaserJockwhat do you mean?07:18
LaserJock #ubuntu-bugs and sfflaw07:18
hubbug that stay forever with any comment07:19
hubfrom anybody07:19
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hubrecreating the pbuilder07:21
hubthat should solve it07:21
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whiteFujitsu: hi :)10:31
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FujitsuHi white.10:33
whiteFujitsu: are you subscribed to  10:35
whitedebian-melb@taz.net.au10:35
FujitsuYep.10:35
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whiteah great, i was thinking about producing some nice when i am coming back to home210:35
whites/nice/noise/10:36
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FujitsuWhen will you be back?10:36
white7. februrary10:37
white*narf*10:37
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whitei wanna have a spellchecker for my irssi10:38
FujitsuOK.10:38
FujitsuHeheh.10:38
whiteFujitsu: are you going to study this year at one of melb's unis?10:39
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FujitsuNo, this'll be another year of year 12; I've split my subjects over two years.10:39
jdongFujitsu: what's the status on Azureus? :)10:39
whiteright, so i have one more year to convince you to come to la trobe :)10:39
jdongI don't see anything in proposed or fiesty yet, I might be just retarded though10:39
FujitsuAbout to upload to Feisty, basically.10:40
jdongok10:40
Fujitsuwhite: What course are you doing there?10:41
whiteFujitsu: Arts10:44
whiteFujitsu: like ancient history, ancient language(s) and kind of biblical history10:44
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FujitsuAha.10:45
white:)10:45
Toadstoolheya everybody!10:45
FujitsuHi Toadstool!10:45
Toadstoolhey Fujitsu 10:45
Lutinheya Toadstool, how are you ?10:45
Toadstoolhi Lutin10:46
Toadstooli'm alright, how are you guys doing?10:46
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Lutinalright too :)10:46
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sistpotyhi folks10:47
Toadstoolhi sistpoty 10:47
sistpotyhi Toadstool10:47
Lutinpackaging some stuff for feisty ;)10:47
Lutinhi sistpoty10:47
sistpotyhi Lutin10:47
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bddebianHeya sistpoty, Toadstool10:48
sistpotyhi bddebian10:48
Toadstoolhey bddebian!10:48
ToadstoolLutin: what packages are you working on?10:50
whiteFujitsu: isn't that something you want to do as well? :)10:51
LutinToadstool: I'm working on kayali and libmlt10:51
LutinToadstool: also gfaim, I'm currently checking if I can update it to use gtk210:52
Fujitsuwhite: Pardon?10:52
whiteFujitsu: Arts :)10:52
FujitsuAh, not particularly. Not quite sure what I'm going to do :/10:52
ToadstoolLutin: oh bddebian already advocated kayali :)10:53
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LutinToadstool: yep, and gfaim was uploaded bur rejected by the archive admins ^^10:53
Toadstoolwhy?10:53
Lutinsome issues with the licensing info, I just fixed them10:54
viciouslimehi10:54
enycBah!10:55
enycSomebody please tell me howto set me as the 'ssignee' of a bug....10:55
enycerr 'assignee'10:55
enycI can't quite work this out...10:55
Nafalloklick on the packagename10:55
Nafalloclick even10:56
viciouslimei was wondering if someone might be able to help me? I have uploaded a package to revu and a comment was made with chnages required, i have made them and then gone to reupload. however, after doing so I received and e-mail saying "Rejected:10:56
viciouslimeSigner has no upload rights at all to this distribution."10:56
Lutinnice, seems that the gtk1 funcs used in gfaim are 1:1 api-wise with gtk2 :)10:56
Fujitsuviciouslime, seems like you uploaded to Ubuntu instead.10:56
FujitsuMake sure you run `dput revu X.dsc'10:56
viciouslimelol oops, thank you!10:56
enycNafallo: ok.. im at the +viewstatus page....... but I dont seee assignee change method10:58
Fujitsuenyc, sounds like you're not logged in.10:58
Fujitsu(and with that, I'm off to work)10:59
enycFujitsu: I am logged in now ;-)10:59
enycFujitsu: but I dont see howto set assignee10:59
FujitsuGo back to the bug overview page, and click on the package name againl10:59
Nafalloenyc: do you got the privilegies to do so? :-)10:59
FujitsuNafallo, what privileges?11:00
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NafalloFujitsu: not everyone can change those things... ubuntu-devs and the bugsquad can AFAIK11:00
enycNafallo: drrrm.... well I set me as an assignee on a previous SRU request11:00
enycNafallo: after sistpoty said that I should....11:01
LutinToadstool: want to review some packages ? ;)11:01
Nafallohmm, then you probably should have :-P11:01
enycNafallo: but I can't remember how I did that11:01
enycNafallo: aaaah now I have a +editstatus link !11:01
Nafalloenyc: +editstatus, as I was just about to write ;-)11:02
ToadstoolLutin: I am taking a look at kayali right now but I can't promise you I'll advocate it or comment on it before tonight or tomorrow since I am at work and I don't have a feisty box here11:03
LutinToadstool: thanks :)11:04
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enycNafallo: oh well now there are 3 bugs reported by me, and 1 bug confirmed by me....11:09
Nafalloenyc: :-)11:11
enycNafallo: though 2 of them are SRU proposals w/ patch for the first bug... lol11:12
enychrrm what do I do now... in  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qpsmtpd/+bug/77485  anyway?11:18
UbugtuMalone bug 77485 in qpsmtpd "[SRU]  request: edgy:qpsmtpd fix for bug #72602" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  11:18
enycthere are at least 3 "+1" 's given..... and the debdiff is there ready...11:19
enycsince this doesnt need a complex upload prepared...11:21
joejaxxToadstool: do you know how i can find out if my gpg key has been added to revu already?11:23
chillywillyis there a meta package or what not that will include everything that you need for a minimal debian-based (or ubuntu) system?11:30
sistpotyjoejaxx: what's your keyid, i can look it up11:30
joejaxxchillywilly: ubuntu-minimal11:30
joejaxxsistpoty: B6A4EB3311:30
chillywillywhat about for debian?11:30
joejaxxchillywilly: i do not know for debian11:31
joejaxxi will look11:31
sistpotyjoejaxx: yep, in revu's keyring11:31
Nafallochillywilly: packages absolutly needed are marked essential11:31
Nafalloubuntu-minimal isn't really needed stuff...11:31
chillywillyis there a simple way I can search for "essential" packages?11:33
bddebiangrep-dctrl probably11:33
joejaxxNafallo: debootstrap pulls ubuntu-minimal does it not?11:33
Nafallojoejaxx: yes. based on the script for the distro in question.11:34
joejaxxyes11:34
joejaxxsistpoty: hmm that is interesting11:34
sistpotyjoejaxx: why?11:35
sistpotyjoejaxx: or better what's the interesting part ;)11:35
joejaxxsistpoty: i wonder how that happened haha11:35
Lutincould anyone there tell me what compile flags I should use with a gtk2 program that #include <gtk/gtk.h>11:36
Lutin?11:36
sistpotyjoejaxx: probably you joined ubuntu-universe-contributors on lp, and someone requested a keyring resync. 11:36
joejaxxsistpoty: oh ok11:36
sistpotya keyring resync simply adds all keys from ubuntu-universe-contributors to revu's keyring11:36
joejaxxsistpoty: oh ok11:37
geserLutin: afaik pkg-config --cflags gtk2.0 can tell you11:39
bddebianLater gang11:39
Nafallobddebian: *hugs*11:39
sistpotycya bddebian11:39
Lutingeser: that's it..I use pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0. the weird thing is that I have make errors with undefined references to GTK_TEXT, which is defined though :/11:41
Lutinactually all the gtk_text stuff seems to be undefined ... weird11:42
chillywillywhich field in the control file would contain the word essential?11:45
Lutinchillywilly: priority11:45
Lutinchillywilly: but only a few core packages are marked as essential11:46
chillywillywhy isn't libc6 marked as "essential"?11:46
LutinI don't know the exact meaning of essential, can't say11:47
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Toadstoolchillywilly: essential packages have a special field Essential: yes11:48
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Lutinuh ... that is really weird. using pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0, include <gtk/gtk.h>, gcc tells me that GTK_TEXT is an undeclared symbol ... what is that Oo11:49
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Lutindo you know what the GTK_ENABLE_BROKEN define means ?11:53
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geserLutin: I would guess the source needs to be updated to use the current widgets12:01
Lutingeser: no, thats not the point12:01
Lutinit's 1:1 api-wise12:01
Lutinbut the gtktext.h header is not included unless I compile it with -DGTK_ENABLE_BROKEN12:02
Lutinand I'd really like to know what it actually means =)12:02
geserif you need to define GTK_ENABLE_BROKEN you are using some old parts12:02
ToadstoolLutin: http://developer.gnome.org/dotplan/porting/ar01s09.html <-- Deprecation section12:02
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LutinToadstool, geser: ok, thanks12:04
Lutinhum ... I see ^^. those funcs were in the 'deprecated' section of the gtk2.0 devel doc. didn't catch that12:05
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