[12:14] crimsun: no problem... nobody received bug mails (and I was not delayed in watching movies actually *g*) [12:15] sistpoty: 1ubuntu2 is available as of ~40 mins ago, which resolves it [12:15] cool, thx! [12:15] sistpoty: you just need to rerun asoundconf set-default-card === sistpoty upgrades [12:16] I wonder how evil it would be to parse /home and spit out a list of users that would need to execute that command. === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] nice idea *g* [12:24] crimsun: how can I tell if I need to run something? :-) [12:24] Nafallo: if you've ever run asoundconf set-default-card, you need to rerun it. [12:24] I haven't :-) [12:24] good [12:34] heh, pbuilder login takes 11s in my vmware edgy on my intel imac [12:34] bah pbuilder [12:34] it takes like 60s or so on my laptop at home :/ [12:34] doesn't top the "takes 28 minutes to resolve build dependencies for vlc" [12:35] omg [12:35] uggg [12:35] with 100% CPU during that time? :-) [12:35] that's one you only want to do once [12:35] I -heart- test-building vlc. [12:35] or actually none at all [12:35] pbuilder didn't do my christmas packages, so i am upset at it [12:35] ummm [12:35] pbuilder-feisty build moms_present [12:35] didn't work :) [12:35] so i had to actually buy gifts :) [12:36] it's awfully hard to blame pbuilder for not building PEKAC [12:36] ahh, you think you are funny and think that acronym would have gotten through ey ;p [12:36] ok, ok, i see how you play now [12:37] and it is PEBKAC btw [12:37] he means that if you removed the key and the chair, it would have worked. [12:37] =) [12:37] hahaha [12:37] lol [12:37] so [12:37] on the lighter side of things [12:38] sew buttons on your underwear [12:38] I was chating from my parents house over christmas === agent [n=agent@pool-71-120-187-51.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:38] and my little brother walks in and reads some -motu [12:38] and now he is scarred for life? [12:39] and he says "LaserJock? ... that just sounds like jockstrap to me" and walks out [12:39] it wasn't me === ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-97-229.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:39] hahahahhaa [12:39] lol [12:39] JockStrap, the new MOTU Mastah [12:39] shoot, my brother read mine as urinal so don't feel to bad [12:40] and now when he calls he asks for "The Urinal" [12:40] I was actually trying to find some Laser Jock stickers to show you guys I'm not making it up [12:40] there is one on one of our old Fedora machines [12:40] hehe [12:41] nixternal@ubuntu, how the hell do you get urinal out of that? i know my brother isn't the brightest bulb in the box, but still [12:41] :-) === Nafallo feel sorry for nixternals brothers stupidity ;-) [12:42] heh, even worse is how they say ubuntu and joke about it [12:42] now i know why kids do what they do to their families and make it on tv [12:42] one sec, let me go make some news :) [12:42] haha [12:43] i can see it now "32yo Chicago Wannabe Hacker Hacks Family Up With Ubuntu CDs Officials Say" [12:43] ROFL [12:43] i wonder what my prison nickname would be? [12:43] nixternal: they better be Kubuntu CDs [12:44] oh no, I wouuld never damage a Kubuntu CD [12:44] otherwise people might get the wrong impression ;-) [12:45] :-) [12:46] I wonder how much bandwidth Mirco Mller has, all his latest planet posts have like 3 or 4 ogg files [12:47] "32yo Wannabe Hacker Dubbed The HackKillah Escapes From Prison Officials Say" - reports just now coming in, black corvette spotted in and around the MOTU Mastah area in Nevada. Officials say be on the lookout as the suspect is Armed and Dangerous [12:47] armed with a box of ShipIts, a mouse and a keyboard [12:48] with his finger on the enter-trigger for yet another upload... [12:48] :-) [12:48] he definitely has been posting some interesting oggs too [12:48] muhehehe [12:49] "The HackKillah"'s side kick, "JockStrap", is armed with several pistols and a Feisty pbuilder. Consider them armed and extremely nerdy [12:49] lol [12:49] lol === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:50] i wish someone would remove the Ubuntu Bugs from Bug #1 [12:50] Malone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [12:50] *sigh* if only I had any artistic ability whatsoever I'd do a MOTU comic [12:50] ya Ubugtu we know what that is already [12:50] heh, now a MOTU comic would be funny [12:51] lol [12:51] the Golden Ponies were fun, but need more visual appeal [12:51] ;-) [12:51] ahh, the Golden Ponies [12:51] how is ichthux ubuntu bug xx1? [12:51] :/ [12:51] Kamping_Kaiser: it's also a bug for Ichthux [12:51] hey, don't talk bad about Ichthux in my present [12:52] s/present/presence [12:52] Kamping_Kaiser: as well as lots of other derivatives/projects [12:52] jeesh [12:52] i say rm -rf that bug already [12:52] LaserJock, yes, but i would have thought here it defaults to 'bug in ubuntu', not 'bug in otherdistro' [12:52] frame it and get it out of here [12:52] Bug #uno is nothing but a gigantic forums post now === Kamping_Kaiser goes to find out what ichthux is [12:53] it is KDE done right :) [12:53] ah, hehee [12:53] Kamping_Kaiser: it defaults to "bug in " [12:53] nixternal: heh, I wouldn't have put it that way ... [12:53] LaserJock, oh :| [12:53] or actually, KDE stalled at the moment until raphink gets his ball-and-chain [12:54] ya, I meant Kubuntu done right, for both, but KDE slipped [12:54] errr [12:54] Ubuntu [12:54] ok, im going to stick my head in a toilet. if im not back in 30 minutes call a plumber === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@unafilliated/kgoetz] has left #ubuntu-motu [""Admiral] === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@unafilliated/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] nixternal: look at what you did now [12:55] :| [12:55] hah [12:55] ^W does something different in xchat from irssi :| [12:55] lol [12:55] lol [12:55] thought you wre going to window 12 ey [12:56] no, thought i was deleting a word [12:56] ;-) [12:56] :P [12:56] ALT != ^ :-) [12:56] err, ya ctrl not alt [12:56] Nafallo, you almost have a regex going there ;) [12:57] heh [12:57] haha [12:57] Kamping_Kaiser: did you find Ichthux? [12:58] LaserJock, i think so. found a .com [12:58] hehe [12:58] yeah, that's it [12:58] oh. it's commercial ;-) [12:59] yeah, just like Ubuntu [12:59] :p [01:00] :-) === Kamping_Kaiser feels surounded by ichthux's atm. [01:02] somerville32: SRU uploaded. [01:03] Kamping_Kaiser: not me :-) === WildRover [n=ceuric01@dpc6747181121.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:03] Nafallo, :) [01:05] Kamping_Kaiser: surrounded? === fowlduck [n=nate@75-130-31-23.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:06] LaserJock, i recognised names, every time i look at a distro it seems to have people i know from ubuntu. usually a largeish number [01:07] Kamping_Kaiser: yeah, there are a lot of MOTUs and DDs involved with Ichthux to some extent or another === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:08] and even occasionally some of those silly doc people [01:08] ;-) [01:08] those crazy MOTUs. err [01:08] hehe [01:08] does that make me silly and crazy? :/ [01:09] LaserJock, they're not a mutually exclusive [01:09] :) [01:09] sure, but I wondered if it would mean being tossed out of deity status ;-) [01:10] ok. out to work. have a good day all. should be back asking more anoying questions tonight ;) [01:10] Zeus wasn't deemed sane [01:10] darn [01:10] so I see no reason why they're orgothonal [01:10] cya Kamping_Kaiser === fowlduck [n=nate@75-130-31-23.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === WildRover [n=ceuric01@dpc6747181121.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ThiefOfBaghdad [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:46] Etch hasn't been released yet, has it? === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:50] crimsun: Thanks [01:50] LaserJock: no. [01:51] hmm, are they on the brink? [01:51] seems like it was supposed to be in Dec. === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-157.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ThiefOfBaghdad [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mruiz [n=mruiz@201-220-113-8.bk10-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:02] LaserJock: i would look more towards fall of this year (fall == sept-dec) [02:03] lol [02:03] it was supposed to be dec 4 === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:06] Heya gang [02:07] hi bddebian [02:07] Hi sistpoty [02:07] hi bddebian [02:08] sistpoty: rpy is waiting for ubuntu-archive to let it in [02:08] LaserJock: ah, thx === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:09] Hi LaserJock [02:11] 'night keescook === cr3 [n=marc@74.12.210.57] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:17] ajmitch around? === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:21] alrighty then, I'm going home [02:21] see you in a couple of minutes...we know that you love us [02:21] heh [02:27] :-) === caravena [n=caravena@41-45-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:49] how do I fix http://pastebin.ca/303034 ? (it's only been happening since I've been using gpg-agent...) [02:53] is anyone working on new xchat? :-) [02:53] ryanakca: did you enter anything? because of "gpg: cancelled by user" === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:53] nope [02:53] ryanakca: can you enter your passphrase there? [02:53] pinentry-qt doesn't even pop up... [02:54] it runs right threw... doesn't give me a prompt or anything [02:54] sistpoty: I have problems uploading to revu [02:54] can you help me please ? [02:54] xerxas: sure [02:55] Uploading to revu (via ftp to revu.tauware.de): [02:55] libtapioca-cil_0ubuntu1-1.dsc: [02:55] Error '553 Could not create file.' during ftp transfer of libtapioca-cil_0ubuntu1-1.dsc [02:55] ryanakca: how about deinstalling gpgagent? [02:55] and then I have a note that says I can use dcut [02:55] xerxas: give me a sec, I'll take a look at incoming [02:55] xerxas: nope, revu doesn't accept dcut commands *g* [02:55] ok [02:55] xerxas: but it accepts rm -f commands from me on the shell *g* [02:55] :) === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:56] xerxas: file deleted [02:56] but maybe you don't need to remove it ? but I don't see it on the webpage [02:56] ok [02:56] thanks [02:56] np... [02:57] sistpoty: what happened ? so that I don't bother you again === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:57] xerxas: if the file was only half-uploaded, there is no other option than to ask a revu admin to remove the file [02:57] ok === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:57] xerxas: if the file is fully there in ftp incoming, you can simply put the other files of the upload there too, with the changes file last [02:57] xerxas: (an upload is considered complete, if the changes file is there) [02:58] so if I have problems uploadnig with ftp , then I need to ask you to remove files ? [02:58] ok === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:58] xerxas: not necessarily, but if your connection breaks in the middle of a file transfer yes [02:58] xerxas: dput transfairs 4 files (.dsc, .diff.gz, .orig.tar.gz and finally .changes) [02:59] k [02:59] sistpoty: currently I'm trying to upload [02:59] Uploading to revu (via ftp to revu.tauware.de): [02:59] libtapioca-cil_0ubuntu1-1.dsc: [02:59] it's stuck here [02:59] $ du -sh *dsc [02:59] 4,0K libtapioca-cil_0ubuntu1-1.dsc [02:59] I'm waiting for 2 minutes probably already [03:00] xerxas: the dsc looks like it's complete on the server side... [03:00] xerxas: are you behind a firewall? [03:00] yep [03:00] a nat routeur [03:00] I use dput -P [03:00] hm... [03:01] router , routeur is in french :) [03:01] hey ! [03:01] done ! [03:01] and the diff.gz: done also [03:02] ok , uploaded ! :) [03:02] nice... [03:02] sistpoty: did you change something ? [03:02] xerxas: no [03:02] do you have an idea why is it so long to start uploading the first file, and the it goes fast ? [03:02] s/the/then/ [03:03] xerxas: not really [03:04] xerxas: the vsftpd log doesn't show anything unusual also [03:04] ok , nevermind, I don't upload to often on revu :) [03:04] next try I'll add a -d [03:04] hehe [03:05] might as well be a dns lookup, though I'm not really sure how the ftp server of tiber is configured [03:07] ok ok [03:07] can be dns, right [03:07] when things are slow, it's often a dns problem :) [03:08] hehe [03:08] my lintian report says I have .svn directories [03:08] how do I re-upload when I corrected the problem ? [03:09] xerxas: simply dput again... [03:09] ok [03:09] thx [03:09] 03:08 AM , gone sleep ! :) [03:09] xerxas: every 10 minutes a cronjob runs, and moves valid uploads to revu, so incoming is cleared again [03:09] ok [03:09] got it [03:09] (unless the upload is not valid, than the cronjob leaves some trash behind) [03:09] ok [03:10] thanks for everything [03:10] bye ! [03:10] cya [03:11] laterz [03:15] sistpoty: back, sorry, I was helping my mum out with her kubuntu live CD ;) [03:16] sistpoty: ok, if I uninstall gpgagent, I can't use GPG in KMail / Kontact... === geser [n=michael@dialin106050.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] ryanakca: you could try to use -us -uc as dpkg-buildpackage arguments, to not have your packages signed [03:20] ryanakca: and then use debsign to sign the stuff you want to upload [03:21] ryanakca: though it looks that somehow debsign is invoked there in the first place [03:21] hmm... kk, I'll try that... [03:21] oh? [03:21] ryanakca: I'm not really familiar with gpgagent... doesn't make any problems for me at last :) [03:22] and you're running it? [03:22] ryanakca: I have it installed, but it doesn't look like I'm running it [03:23] kk... dpkg-buildpackage -us and dpkg-buildpackage -uc both give me: [03:23] dpkg-buildpackage: source package is solseek [03:23] dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 0.8a-0ubuntu1 [03:23] dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Ryan Kavanagh [03:23] dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture i386 [03:24] dpkg-buildpackage: source version without epoch 0.8a-0ubuntu1 [03:24] debian/rules clean [03:24] test -x debian/rules [03:24] test "`id -u`" = 0 [03:24] make: *** [testroot] Error 1 === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:24] ryanakca: -rfakeroot? [03:24] ryanakca: how did you build the package in the first place? with debuild? [03:25] yeah [03:25] ryanakca: you can simply pass dpkg-buildpackage arguments to debuild as well [03:25] ryanakca: e.g. debuild -us -uc [03:26] umm... why is it running threw the whole configure? [03:27] and make... I just want to create the .dsc... [03:27] probably timestamp skew. [03:27] err, do you mean in the clean target? [03:27] timestamp skew? [03:27] ryanakca: debuild -S -us -uc? [03:28] obviously if you use ``debuild -us -uc'' it'll configure && make ... [03:28] ryanakca: otherwise debuild will build a binary package [03:28] ah... you learn something new every day :) === ryanakca thought you meant use -us -uc instead of -S -sa :) [03:28] ryanakca: nope... -us -> don't sign .dsc -uc -> don't sign changes file [03:29] -S -> build source package -sa -> include orig.tar.gz [03:29] (or the other way round) [03:29] kk [03:29] so, debuild -us -uc -S -sa [03:29] no [03:29] yep... or dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -S -sa -us -uc [03:30] yep? [03:30] no? [03:30] aren't -us -uc and -sa antithetical? [03:30] -us -uc are only signing-related [03:30] Yeah [03:30] bddebian: no, I use dpkg-buildpackage that way quite often ;) [03:31] kk, thanks... now I can stick something into pbuilder to warm up my CPU on this chilly winter night :) [03:32] np [03:35] Doh, I always thought -sa was "sign ..." doh [03:36] lol [03:36] bddebian: good one ;-) [03:37] Well I was actually thinking like sign all but OK ;-) [03:37] bddebian's kids have been putting the good stuff into his coffee again. [03:38] crimsun: lol [03:38] :'-( === Daller [n=daniel@0x5552c254.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:49] Who do I contact when I have a driver (for a tablet) that I would like to get into universe, or even installed per default? [03:50] BTW: It's GPL! [03:51] Daller: is it a kernel driver or what? [03:51] Not an in-kernel driver - No! [03:51] See this: [03:51] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetupWizardpen [03:52] It's a ".so" driver to be placed in "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/" [03:54] I have hundreds of people contacting me about the guide, and it would be great to be able to cut down, or even remove the "download and install" part... [03:55] hrm [03:55] file a wishlist bug against Xorg i guess [03:55] or well you could probably package it independently === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:56] Oh, great idea... I could be installed alongside xorg and all the other modules... [03:56] Thx [03:57] Is there a good guide to get started with packaging? [03:57] !packagingguide [03:57] The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources [03:57] A file and a destination should be quite easy :D ? [03:59] Well, Thx... I'm on my way to bed anyway... [04:01] Well, now that I'm here, and you have links to both the wiki and the doc.facility - what exactly is the difference between the wiki, help.ubuntu.com and the doc.facility? === mwolson [i=mwolson@pool-72-69-3-36.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Daller [n=daniel@0x5552c254.adsl.cybercity.dk] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Kopete] [04:17] zul: it was more than a few minutes === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-073-025.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superuser [n=joejaxx@ubuntu/member/joejaxx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty is off to bed now [04:24] gn8 everyone [04:24] night sistpoty [04:32] Can we strongly encourage people to add links to package long descriptions? :) [04:33] somerville32: yes. dont let it thru REVU without it === somerville32 nods. [04:36] The script I uses extracts links from the long description so it helps make Feisty Changes in the UWN a whole lot easier :) [04:36] (as we have to hunt down the changelog) [04:37] ah :) [04:52] what is the policy on revu when two people package the same version of software? [04:53] rexbron: pick the better one? or take the fixes, adn combine them? [04:53] dunno if it's happened before [04:53] seeing as it's explicitly said to check revu before making a new package [04:53] think is there are no fixes just a new upstream release [04:54] the only difference is that I used CDBS and he used the regular debhelper [04:54] *thing === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:58] rexbron: which is it? [04:58] murrine [04:58] ill get the upid [04:58] thanks [04:59] Hobbsee: 3953 for the latest (I am listed and andy.hunter@rogers.com). Mine is two behind it. [04:59] I am working with the ubuntu studio project and crimsun [05:01] rexbron: -murrine (0.40.1-0ubuntu1) feisty; urgency=low is yours, then? [05:01] ya [05:01] the other one does not follow ubuntu versioning [05:01] unless it has been added to debian in the last 24 hours [05:02] you're correct there, and wrong release ,etc === somerville32 is in the mood to package something non-python. :) === daya [n=daya@202.79.37.177] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:03] Actually, Hobbsee, want to help me finish pyNeighborhood? [05:03] rexbron: do you know if Matteo Giordano is on irc? [05:03] nope [05:04] He is not with Ubuntu Studio... [05:04] somerville32: not overly :P [05:04] afaik [05:04] Hobbsee, Ca'mon! We might learn something :D [05:04] learning is fun [05:04] and painful at times [05:05] rexbron: true. i think i'll take yours, looking at this. he's uploaded it hours later than you have, and clealry hasnt checked REVU first [05:05] Hobbsee: ok [05:05] glad I was able to get an official opinion on this === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:06] Hobbsee, Do I have to compress the changelog? [05:07] rexbron: i wouldnt bet on it being official :P [05:07] somerville32: sorry? [05:07] "official" [05:07] E: pyneighborhood: changelog-file-not-compressed changelog.Debian [05:07] E: pyneighborhood: changelog-file-not-compressed changelog [05:07] E: pyneighborhood: changelog-file-not-compressed Changelog [05:07] Yes, you have to compress them, I just ran into that :-( [05:07] Wait... am I suppose to use linda or lintian? [05:07] Both [05:08] Are some of the warnings permissible? [05:08] The NMU ones :-) [05:08] define: NMU [05:08] Non-Maintainer Upload [05:08] Please elaborate :) [05:09] If you don't have an error about NMU, don't worry about it :-) [05:09] W: pyneighborhood; The command /usr/bin/gksudo /usr/bin/pyneighborhood listed in a menu file does not exist. [05:09] Is that permissible? [05:10] rexbron: there you go :) [05:10] Hmm, possibly. I'm not sure about that one [05:10] Hobbsee: thanks [05:11] What does this one mean? W: pyneighborhood; File /usr/lib/pyenighborhood/config.py contained in /usr/lib of Architecture: all package. [05:12] Hobbsee: Sugestions on how to version the condenced changelog? [05:13] that mean the config.py file should go to /usr/share/ instead [05:13] somerville32: Try running lintian -i, it should give you clues [05:13] Hobbsee: also, Andrew is mentioned in the copyright file. I can add him else where if you deem it approprate [05:15] rexbron: i'd just do it in the changelog. as well *shrug* [05:15] sure [05:16] Hobbsee: My issue is with how to name it? reupload with all of the 0.31 stuff added to the 0.40.1 changelog? [05:16] rexbron: actually, you could probably put "new upstream version, original packaging by andrew mitchell" or something - i dont think you need to include the rest [05:16] oh, yeah [05:17] * Added clean rule to remove config.guess and config.status <-- you probably want to keep that in [05:17] that is fixed [05:17] rexbron: hrm. basically, leave the stuff that might be useful to people who look to hack on it in future, but axe the rest [05:17] ok [05:18] all you really need in there is "initial release, original packaging by..." [05:24]