[12:01] <bruenig> _sandy_, I am not familiar with what /proc/partitions does but could it just be a list of mounted partitions
[12:01] <vinboy> why my ubuntu automatically log itself out once awhile?
[12:01] <MN> hello, i run xchat on linux ubuntu and i want to download script when i open xchat and connect on some server and i want to have script for auto login ( auto msg ) can somebody give me that plugin or script a ?
[12:01] <aoupi> svish: what config file?
[12:01] <_sandy_> no
[12:01] <bruenig> MN, #xchat
[12:02] <MN> bruenig: there dont have helpers
[12:02] <nikin> i have found a page about udev blacklisting but i cant figure out what rc.conf does it meen : http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev  this is the link
[12:02] <_sandy_> /proc/partitions are all partitions probed for udev to create device nodes for
[12:02] <svish> aoupi: dont know. did it through Configuration Editor. apps/metacity/global_keybindings and keybinding_command
[12:02] <MN> and i need help here
[12:02] <MetaBookfoziS> hy all
[12:02] <bruenig> MN, there should be a place to put a password to identify yourself in xchat if that is what you are wanting
[12:02] <MetaBookfoziS> how can i convrt pdf to txt?
[12:02] <bruenig> automatically identify*
[12:02] <_sandy_> connection reset by queer, or erection reset by queer
[12:03] <aoupi> svish: ctrl+alt+backspace will restart X and therby reload the metacity conf files
[12:03] <svish> aoupi: followed the http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560 B thingy, but key doesnt work. so I guess it doesnt know about the change yet
[12:03] <svish> aoupi: ok ill try that..
[12:03] <MN> k
[12:03] <_sandy_> aoupi: got any words
[12:03] <asqueella> what is 'distribution upgrade' ubuntu wants me to run? (apparently it can't upgrade xserver-xorg package the normal way)
[12:03] <_sandy_> or anybody really
[12:03] <aoupi> _sandy_: was thinking of fsck but since theyr not in /dev....
[12:04] <snowdon> hi everybody
[12:04] <bruenig> asqueella, do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:04] <_sandy_> well, their SFS partitions (dynamic volumes for NT) but I was able to mount them the other day... :(
[12:04] <_sandy_> I don't think that makes any difference though because I've had this stupid problem with linux and hard drives before
[12:04] <snowdon> Does anyone know where I can find a list of the apps that come with ubuntu live, i've searched their website but haven't found anything.
[12:05] <_sandy_> and they weren't nt partitions
[12:05] <foob> i have most of my music on my /media/hda1 (windows parition). what do you think is better, to copy all of it to my /home/foob/Desktop/Music/ or to just make symlinks to my ubuuntu desktop?
[12:05] <kejup> metabookfoxiS: I think there is a program "pdf2txt"
[12:05] <bruenig> snowdon, a total list probably not, it has pretty much whatever you want and you can install stuff via repos even on live cd
[12:05] <h3xis> snowdon, is there a particular app that you are wanting to know if it's in the livecd?
[12:05] <Admiral_Buttercr> OK, I got Windows XP working, but Ubuntu still goes to Busy Box
[12:05] <_sandy_> foob: cat /dev/sda1 > /dev/dsp
[12:05] <amir> bruening. like gaim, it starts up every time i start my comp
[12:05] <bruenig> at least whatever you would want from a live cd
[12:05] <Hyde> if im having trouble with wine on ubuntu is this the right place?
[12:05] <mwe> asqueella: using apt-get dist-upgrade also 'intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages'
[12:05] <_sandy_> you can listen to your music that way, sorta
[12:05] <Falstius> foob: move all of the music to linux, reformat the windows partition and then just use it for storing music.
[12:06] <snowdon> h3xis: just a browser with the java runtime environment
[12:06] <aoupi> _sandy_: :D
[12:06] <snowdon> kejup: there are actually quite a few if you google.
[12:06] <bruenig> amir, go to system>preferences>sessions, then to the startup commands tab, then take gaim out
[12:06] <_sandy_> heh
[12:06] <kmasta> i keep getting an error that I have a duplicate repo enabled. it shows me two repos. Should i just de-activate one of them?
[12:06] <h3xis> snowdon, it has firefox on there and i'm not sure if java is included but a monkey can install it :)
[12:06] <amir> bruenig thanks
[12:06] <_sandy_> aoupi: I usually cat urandom to dsp to test if my sound works ;)
[12:06] <kejup> snowdon: yeah, but how many in the repo?
[12:06] <foob> so easy a caveman can do it?
[12:06] <snowdon> h3xis: Thanks
[12:07] <snowdon> kejup: don't know sorry.
[12:07] <aoupi> _sandy_: me too
[12:07] <h3xis> foob, even better
[12:07] <mwe> _sandy_: turning down the volume first I hope ;)
[12:07] <asqueella> mwe: do I understand it correctly that it can't install the updated xserver package because soemthing else depends on its older version?
[12:07] <_sandy_> uh yeah
[12:07] <_sandy_> lol
[12:07] <asqueella> mwe: what kind of 'intelligent handling' can fix that?
[12:07] <asqueella> and what happens if I click 'distribution upgrade'?
[12:08] <mwe> asqueella: updating those as well
[12:08] <_sandy_> grr I'm gonna go try stuff, I'll come back and let you guys know if I find out anything
[12:08] <bruenig> asqueella, but if you are using dapper, it will try to update you, I think, to edgy
[12:08] <mwe> asqueella: unless your repos are broken dis-upgrade should work
[12:08] <Some_Person> If I format the useless FAT32 partition on my drive (shown first in gparted, but mounts as /dev/hda2), will it destroy other partitions by formatting with cfdisk?
[12:08] <mwe> asqueella: yeah with dist-upgrade
[12:08] <aoupi> _sandy_: good luck
[12:08] <nikin> can anyone help me with udev blacklisting of modules?
[12:08] <asqueella> (I'm using edgy)
[12:08] <amir> -inurl: (htm|html|php) intitle:"index of" "last modified" "parent
[12:08] <amir> directory" description size (wam|mp3) "50 cent"
[12:08] <Shadowpillar> quick question
[12:09] <asqueella> and I think it can't upgrade the package due to some xgl/whatever packages I installed earlier
[12:09] <aoupi> nikin: if it is a kernel module you can blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:09] <asqueella> not that it's willing to tell me
[12:09] <Shadowpillar> how do I re-install grub after installing windows XP
[12:09] <mwe> asqueella: as I said use apt-get dist-upgrade ;) apt-get update first though. see if it works.
[12:09] <asqueella> okay
[12:09] <nikin> aoupi: ty
[12:09] <Flannel> !grub | Shadowpillar
[12:09] <ubotu> Shadowpillar: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:09] <Some_Person> will it?
[12:09] <Falstius> nikin: do you want to blacklist modules or devices?  you can use /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist to blacklist modules
[12:09] <Hyde> i have wine installed through the terminal but i cannot use it
[12:10] <Hyde> anyone have suggestions?
[12:10] <bruenig> Hyde, what do you mean you can't use it
[12:10] <Hyde> i tried to execute a .exe file
[12:10] <Hyde> and i dont have to option to use it
[12:10] <mwe> asqueella: if you installed something from third party repos it could have broken things
[12:10] <asqueella> I know :)
[12:10] <bruenig> Hyde, do wine "/path/to/exe"
[12:10] <Some_Person> exe needs wine
[12:10] <asqueella> what I'm concerned about is the cryptic dialog
[12:11] <asqueella> which doesn't make it obvious what Distribution upgrade button does
[12:11] <Hyde> i have wine checked in my synaptic package manager
[12:11] <asqueella> does it run apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:11] <Hyde> bruenig, is that thru the terminal?
[12:11] <nikin> Falstius: yep modules... t
[12:11] <nikin> y
[12:11] <Shadowpillar> I need to restore grub but in the chroot environment, /dev/sda doesnt appear
[12:11] <Some_Person> then go to terminal and type wine '/path/to/something.exe'
[12:11] <bruenig> Hyde, yes, when someone says do, that means terminal
[12:11] <Shadowpillar> can anyone help?
[12:12] <bimberi> 2 (aligned) helpers is better than 0 :)
[12:12] <tonyyarusso> Shadowpillar: is there and sdb, sdc, or hda?
[12:12] <Hyde> its frustating because yesturday wine worked fine
[12:13] <Hyde> and i used #sudo aptitude update
[12:13] <bruenig> Hyde, what is the problem
[12:13] <bruenig> Hyde, wine "/path/to/your.exe"
[12:13] <Hyde> its just not there
[12:13] <bruenig> Hyde, what happens when you do that
[12:13] <Hyde> alright, let me try that
[12:13] <Hyde> in the parenthesis is jsut the path to exe
[12:13] <bruenig> Hyde, yes
[12:13] <bruenig> and those are quotes
[12:14] <sleepy007> how to change the starting day of the week ?
[12:14] <Shadowpillar> tonyyarusso: nope
[12:14] <tonyyarusso> Shadowpillar: so it sees no disks at all?
[12:14] <Shadowpillar> tonyyarusso: however, in the livecd's environment, there is, but in the chroot environment, nada
[12:15] <tonyyarusso> Shadowpillar: Oh.  um...
[12:15] <Hyde> well, it did something
[12:15] <registered99> Hi, can someone help me get a DLink DWL-G510 Marvell chipsetted wireless card to work with ubuntu 6.06 using ndiswrapper?
[12:15] <tonyyarusso> Shadowpillar: You could try doing it outside of chroot if you know the drive number
[12:15] <Hyde> still unable to open the exe however
[12:15] <bruenig> Hyde, what is the output when you do that command
[12:16] <Hyde> VisualBoyAdvance.exe
[12:16] <Hyde> sorry
[12:16] <Hyde> that wasnt all of it
[12:16] <Hyde> give me a sec
[12:16] <Hyde> wine /home/peter/My Games/Visual Boy Advance/VisualBoyAdvance.exe
[12:16] <bruenig> Hyde, put quotes around the path
[12:16] <Hyde> i guess you guys know what im trying to run ^^
[12:16] <Flannel> Hyde: you'll need to escape the spaces (\ ), tab completion will take care of that for y though
[12:17] <Hyde> alright, dinner time
[12:17] <Hyde> i'll have to figure this out later
[12:17] <[g2] > Hyde type wine "/home/peter/M and then tab complete it
[12:17] <asqueella> is there any way I can convince apt to tell me /why/ it doesn't want to upgrade something?
[12:18] <bruenig> asqueella, it should tell you
[12:18] <killown> how I do to use vmplayer in fullscreen mode
[12:18] <registered99> Hi, can someone help me with Dlink DWL-G510 wireless cards working with ndiswrapper in ubuntu?
[12:18] <svish> the Super_L key doeSnt work! I put <Super_L> with a letter in the global_keybindingS, but it only work without the Super_L :(
[12:18] <wylde> ubuntu is based on debian, right? So would packages designed for ubuntu work in debian and vice cersa?
[12:18] <wylde> *versa
[12:18] <asqueella> "The following packages have been kept back: xserver-xorg"
[12:18] <asqueella> not much info here
[12:18] <killown> I want to run system in vmplayer mode fullscreen how do it?
[12:18] <[g2] > anyone know what the hw autodectection package is ? I've debootstrapped Xubuntu since there's no CDROM on the device and the sound isn't setup
[12:18] <aoupi> !visualboyadvance | Hyde
[12:18] <ubotu> visualboyadvance: a full featured Game Boy Advance emulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.7.2-6 (edgy), package size 581 kB, installed size 2260 kB
[12:19] <bruenig> asqueella, try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[12:19] <bimberi> ubotu: tell svish about winkey | via /msg
[12:19] <oldab> hi! i wanted to install compiz on edgy. unfortunately the system is complaining about the wrong openglcore version
[12:19] <bruenig> !compiz | oldab
[12:19] <ubotu> oldab: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:19] <MTecknology> I'm trying to use gparted off of a live CD to make an extra partition to transfer data between Ubuntu and Windows. GParted seems to go through the motions of resizing the ext3 partition but doesn't actually resize it. Anybody know why?
[12:20] <bruenig> do you hit apply
[12:20] <svish> bimberi: aaaaah.. im SuppoSed to uSe <mod4>? not <Super_L>?
[12:20] <mi6uel> holas
[12:20] <mi6uel> o.O
[12:20] <bruenig> !es
[12:20] <MTecknology> bruenig, ya
[12:20] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:20] <bimberi> svish: yes
[12:20] <oldab> obotu: thank you. I'll have a look
[12:20] <bruenig> !thanks | oldab
[12:20] <ubotu> oldab: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[12:20] <asqueella> okay, it decided to install all the video drivers it could find (?!)
[12:20] <asqueella> which is weird, but I don't mind
[12:21] <svish> bimberi: thank youu hehe
[12:21] <MooUK> Hmmm. I can't find a media player that suits me yet. I think I need to keep trying them...
[12:21] <asqueella> heh, apt-get install xserver-xorg did the trick
[12:21] <bimberi> svish: np :)
[12:22] <asqueella> so I totally don't understand what the problem was, but it appears to be fixed
[12:22] <asqueella> thanks bruenig, mwe
[12:22] <bimberi> ha!
[12:22] <svish> nice!! the winkey shortcuts are working :D
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[12:23] <registered99> I'm having trouble with getting a Dlink DWL-G510 wireless card to work with ndiswrapper in Ubuntu 6.06. Can someone please help me?
[12:24] <oldab> ubotu: a bot?
[12:24] <Orby> hi, i just purchased a new computer that has a Pentium D 64bit, but i cant find the intel 64bit version of ubuntu, do i just use the amd64 or do i have to stick with the i386 one ?
[12:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:24] <svish> hehe... ubotu trying to explain away that he is a bot..
[12:24] <registered99> ubotu: DWL-G510 wireless?
[12:24] <MTecknology> I'm trying to use gparted off of a live CD to make an extra partition to transfer data between Ubuntu and Windows. GParted seems to go through the motions of resizing the ext3 partition but doesn't actually resize it. Anybody know why?
[12:25] <bruenig> ubotu: bot
[12:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:25] <registered99> ubotu: DWL-G510?
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DWL-G510? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <MAJKU-MU> ConvertOne I still have problem with that disabling irq #201 when try to dial using modem or to pick-up line
[12:26] <svish> why is 3ddesk inverted in colors? and how can I remove the huge green number over the cube?
[12:26] <registered99> I'm having trouble with getting a Dlink DWL-G510 wireless card to work with ndiswrapper in Ubuntu 6.06. Can someone please help me?
[12:26] <hjmills> how can i get a score for my pc which i can compare to another pc? prefereable divided into diff things - hdd, cpu, memory, gfx etc
[12:27] <Orby> to use a pentium D 64bit to its fullest which version of ubuntu do i need ?
[12:27] <roflarn> 64bit
[12:27] <Orby> yes i know that part... but i cant find it
[12:27] <Orby> theres only amd64 and i386
[12:28] <brianski> wtf. google autosuggest - type spiritus international, it suggests "spice anal" ... uh....
[12:28] <jonah1980> hi guys just updated to feisty, only now my wireless card won't work. it was on ath0 in edgy, since rebooting in feisty it's not there! can anyone please help me?
[12:28] <hjmills> Orby: amd64 - its only called that because intel were slow getting out 64bit support - tho i think its changing to x86_64
[12:28] <aoupi> hjmills: cat /proc/cpuinfo will give you info about the cpu, cat /proc/meminfo will give you info about memory df -h will give you info about partition size(only mounted partitions)
[12:28] <Orby> hjmills: oh ok, thanks :D
[12:29] <hjmills> aoupi: thanks but i was more looking for a test that would give a rating of how good it is in practice - something like the time it takes to run a certain command
[12:29] <Orby> venigma: you following me ;)
[12:29] <aoupi> hjmills: time command :)
[12:29] <hjmills> aoupi: of course that command would have to be identical on every pc - so what command can i time?
[12:29] <svish> !3ddesk
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3ddesk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <bruenig> !info 3ddesktop
[12:30] <registered99>  I'm having trouble with getting a Dlink DWL-G510 wireless card to work with ndiswrapper in Ubuntu 6.06. Can someone please help me?
[12:30] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 448 kB
[12:30] <registered99> !info DWL-G510
[12:30] <ubotu> Package dwl-g510 does not exist in any distro I know
[12:30] <aoupi> hjmills: hm there problably is some benchmark apps in synaptic
[12:30] <jazzrocker> http://pastebin.ca/303783
[12:30] <hjmills> aoupi: as far as i know time will just tell you how long a command takes - so what command could i get to do big maths calcs for example? something to calculate the first 100 or 1000 primes?
[12:30] <jazzrocker> any idea why i get that error?
[12:31] <bimberi> registered99: your question is a bit vague.  tell the channel a bit more about what you've tried and what error you're getting
[12:31] <Hyde> alright, my wine is not working
[12:31] <Hyde> and i followed these directions
[12:31] <Hyde> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/wine
[12:31] <aoupi> hjmills: apt-cache searh benchmark too see if you find any good ones soo you don't have to write one yourself
[12:31] <ikonia> jazzrocker: that are you trying to do
[12:31] <jazzrocker> ikonia, i'm trying to use sudo
[12:31] <bruenig> Hyde, did you see that what you are trying to use through wine exists in the ubuntu repos
[12:31] <ikonia> and I suspect you are changing that error
[12:32] <bimberi> jazzrocker: your /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname files don't have the same name.  You can fix it by booting into recovery mode
[12:32] <bimberi> !hostname
[12:32] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly
[12:32] <Hyde> its my second day with linux
[12:32] <bruenig> !info visualboyadvance
[12:32] <Hyde> =\
[12:32] <jazzrocker> bimberi, thanks
[12:32] <ubotu> visualboyadvance: a full featured Game Boy Advance emulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.7.2-6 (edgy), package size 581 kB, installed size 2260 kB
[12:32] <HighLife> hey does anyone know of a media player that will also sort video with the cover artwork and everything?
[12:32] <ikonia> Hyde: don't care
[12:32] <bruenig> Hyde, have you enabled the extra repos?
[12:32] <hjmills> aoupi: thanks
[12:32] <Hyde> yeah
[12:32] <bruenig> Hyde, ignore ikonia
[12:32] <jazzrocker> ikonia, i suspect you have nothing useful to say
[12:32] <Hyde> i made them universal and community enabled
[12:32] <registered99> bimberi: Hi, I have a DWL-G510 card. I'm trying to install it through ndiswrapper. I have tried all results on google.
[12:32] <ikonia> there is enough "noise" in this busy channel
[12:32] <bruenig> Hyde, ok, then do sudo apt-get install visualboyadvance
[12:33] <ikonia> its supposed to be support
[12:33] <svish> Does anyone have experience with 3ddesk? It is inverting the colors for some reason... it looks weird :|
[12:33] <ikonia> jazzrocker: you suppose wrong
[12:33] <registered99> bimberi: Yet, ndiswrapper -l doesn't seem to result in anything but "driver installed"
[12:33] <jazzrocker> ikonia, nice retort :)
[12:33] <bruenig> svish, best way to fix that, sudo apt-get remove 3ddesktop
[12:33] <hjmills> !info vigor
[12:33] <ubotu> vigor: nvi with the evil paperclip. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.016-8 (edgy), package size 261 kB, installed size 680 kB
[12:33] <svish> bruenig: and then install it again?
[12:33] <bruenig> svish, nah, just leave it uninstalle
[12:33] <bimberi> registered99: Unfortunately I know nothing about ndiswrapper (I did say to ask the channel)
[12:34] <svish> bruenig: lol... but thats no fun :p
[12:34] <bimberi> registered99: (ie. no need to prepend with a nick)
[12:34] <helpmeplease> I NEED HELP
[12:34] <bruenig> !info ndisgtk
[12:34] <ubotu> ndisgtk: graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 120 kB
[12:34] <ikonia> helpmeplease: no need to use caps
[12:34] <bruenig> !justask
[12:35] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:35] <hjmills> !grue
[12:35] <ubotu> The grue is a sinister, lurking presence in the dark places of the earth. Its favorite diet is adventurers, but its insatiable appetite is tempered by its fear of light. No grue has ever been seen by the light of day, and few have survived its fearsome jaws to tell the tale. Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_%28monster%29 and !seveas
[12:35] <bruenig> !caps
[12:35] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:35] <helpmeplease> MY PARTITION TABLE IS "INVALID"
[12:35] <ikonia> just ask your question
[12:35] <jbroome> helpmeplease: the caps lock is the key on the left side of the kb
[12:35] <helpmeplease> I CANT BOOT
[12:35] <Rprp`>   Karverkasta L Rprp Somethief TBot Xe_BNC
[12:35] <ikonia> helpmeplease: stop using caps
[12:35] <registered99> Does anyone know why ndiswrapper might not detect a DLink DWL-G510 revision A1 card? I can't get my card to be detected by Ubuntu. Ndiswrapper reports the driver to be installed, but it doesn't report the hardware being seen.
[12:35] <hjmills> !caps | helpmeplease
[12:35] <bruenig> !caps | HellDragon2
[12:35] <ubotu> helpmeplease: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:35] <ubotu> HellDragon2: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:35] <bruenig> damn
[12:35] <jazzrocker> ok, so /etc/hostname has "foobar.org" while /etc/hosts only has an entry for localhost, i'm guessing i should add the mapping from my IP to my hostname in the /etc/hosts file y/n?
[12:35] <helpmeplease> just quick help me
[12:35] <ikonia> helpmeplease: fdisk -l $yourdevice name
[12:35] <helpmeplease> i'm on ubuntu live
[12:35] <jazzrocker> this is a regular dev server, live, through SSH
[12:35] <hjmills> helpmeplease: and the problem is on your main ubuntu install?
[12:36] <bruenig> !freshinstall
[12:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freshinstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <helpmeplease> my whole HD
[12:36] <helpmeplease> i have a dualboot
[12:36] <jbroome> ownage
[12:36] <hjmills> helpmeplease: backup everything from the main hdd if you can from the live system
[12:36] <helpmeplease> ohhh
[12:36] <ikonia> helpmeplease: do fdisk -l /dev/$your_hard_disk_name
[12:36] <helpmeplease> am i very likely to lose data?
[12:36] <helpmeplease> i know the partitions data is still there (except hda2, dont know why)
[12:37] <ikonia> helpmeplease: fdisk -l /dev/hda2
[12:37] <ikonia> oops
[12:37] <ikonia> helpmeplease: fdisk -l /dev/hda
[12:37] <helpmeplease> ok\
[12:37] <bimberi> jazzrocker: the line for 127.0.0.1 should have the same name on it as what's in /etc/hostname
[12:37] <hjmills> helpmeplease: surely thats why you do regular backups and keep them in a fireproof safe at an off site location and test them to make sure the backups work?
[12:37] <helpmeplease> it says "Partition table entries are not in disk order"
[12:38] <jazzrocker> bimberi, ala: 127.0.0.1    localhost localhost.localdomain foobar.org
[12:38] <jazzrocker> bimberi, ?
[12:38] <bimberi> hjmills: .0001% of the population :)
[12:38] <helpmeplease> now, after the fdisk, is it fixed?
[12:38] <chupie> i just got ubuntu installed.. and currently the screen resolution is 1280x1024, when i goto lower it.. it takes me back to the login screen, then when i log back in, it tells me i need to reboot.. which i do, then nothing has changed
[12:38] <helpmeplease> i see a list of my partitions
[12:38] <ikonia> helpmeplease: so that means there is a partition table
[12:38] <bimberi> jazzrocker: hm, maybe just "foobar".  give me a minute to check one of my servers...
[12:39] <helpmeplease> it says its invalid on boot
[12:39] <jazzrocker> bimberi, or should that be in replacement of localhost
[12:39] <bruenig> ikonia, yeah, looks like format and fresh install will have to do
[12:39] <hjmills> bimberi: i know - i dont even count myself in that - but when i get round to it then i do actually plan on doing that. (without the off site fireproof safe bit)
[12:39] <helpmeplease> when i boot, it says its invalisd
[12:39] <bimberi> jazzrocker: nono.  leave localhost
[12:39] <jazzrocker> bimberi, btw, just as a TIAS i added the hostname on the next line with the eth0 ip
[12:39] <helpmeplease> so how do i fix it
[12:39] <ikonia> bruenig: if he's not done anything, probably best
[12:39] <svish> how do I start a program from the terminal, but kick it out so I can keep using the terminal?
[12:39] <jazzrocker> bimberi, but that didn't change the sudo problem
[12:39] <ikonia> nothing to lose
[12:39] <hjmills> i remember at my old school our fireproof safe was a cardboard box and the off site location was a bungalow in the school grounds
[12:39] <bruenig> helpmeplease, format then fresh install
[12:39] <helpmeplease> NO
[12:39] <sinisterguy> what file do i have to edit to add a kernel module to be loaded at boot
[12:39] <bruenig> ok
[12:39] <bruenig> well bye
[12:40] <hjmills> and at the place i work now we have a fireproof safe but its for another companies tapes
[12:40] <helpmeplease> please i dont want to lose data
[12:40] <hjmills> sinisterguy: /etc/modules
[12:40] <sleepy007> svish, alt F2
[12:40] <jazzrocker> helpmeplease, i want a pony
[12:40] <helpmeplease> aall the darn files are still there
[12:40] <soweto76> svish: please clarify
[12:40] <bruenig> helpmeplease, if you don't have a partition table, you cannot mount any of your partitions, therefore you cannot get your data, I mean what else do you want
[12:40] <jbroome> i'll knit you a pony out of puppies
[12:40] <helpmeplease> i can mount them
[12:40] <helpmeplease> in livecd
[12:40] <bimberi> jazzrocker: ok, my server has both foobar and foobar.org (and no line with the eth0 address)
[12:40] <hjmills> helpmeplease: sorry but you are going to have to face it - you probably will lose data - the best you can hope for is to not lose too much
[12:40] <sinisterguy> hjmills: thanks
[12:40] <Flannel> helpmeplease: then mount them and copy them off
[12:40] <jazzrocker> holy lolomfgbbq @ jbroome
[12:41] <sinisterguy> .quit
[12:41] <bruenig> helpmeplease, ok, I am not interpreting your comments correctly
[12:41] <helpmeplease> but when i try to boot up, it says the partition table is invalid
[12:41] <crimsun> jazzrocker: http://sc.tri-bit.com/images/2/23/pony.jpg
[12:41] <hjmills> helpmeplease: then go mount them, copy the data off and get on with your life surely?
[12:41] <jazzrocker> bimberi, in addition to the localhost bit?
[12:41] <svish> knew about alt+f2, but someone showed me something to write before the command or something. the program is kate. and when I write kate in the terminal, it opens, but keeps putting debugmessages or something in the terminal
[12:41] <jazzrocker> bimberi, sorry to be pedantic, just wanna make sure
[12:41] <hjmills> helpmeplease: so just use the live cd - grab a cd burner and a ton of cds and copy everything from the mounted partitions to cds - then try and fix the problem
[12:42] <helpmeplease> i dont want to format :( :( :(
[12:42] <ikonia> why ?
[12:42] <ikonia> do you have loads of data ?
[12:42] <jazzrocker> he's got too much warez
[12:42] <bruenig> you cannot burn from the live cd unless I guess you have two cd burners
[12:42] <helpmeplease> yes, gigs and gigs of stuff
[12:42] <bruenig> which would be impressive
[12:42] <ikonia> helpmeplease: then back it up
[12:42] <helpmeplease> i dont
[12:42] <Flannel> bruenig: only one burner, two drives.  which is common.
[12:42] <ikonia> whats all your data
[12:42] <jazzrocker> bruenig, or unless you have one ROM and one Burner
[12:42] <ikonia> what type it is
[12:42] <helpmeplease> back it up to what?
[12:42] <jazzrocker> bruenig, like me
[12:42] <jbroome> i knew crimsun would be summoned by mention of ponies
[12:42] <bruenig> Flannel, oh yeah didn't think of that
[12:42] <ikonia> what type of data is it
[12:42] <hjmills> bruenig: isnt the live cd system loaded to ram - also you only need one cd burner and a cd reader
[12:42] <helpmeplease> i have 1 drive
[12:43] <jazzrocker> bruenig, in fact that's usually the best way to go, then you don't wear out your burner playing DVD's
[12:43] <soweto76> svish: man xterm  --  xterm -e command, perhaps
[12:43] <bimberi> jazzrocker: yes, for example mine is: "127.0.0.1  foobar.org foobar localhost localhost.localdomain"
[12:43] <hjmills> and as dvd burners aren't that expensive anymore you could have 2 quite feasibly
[12:43] <hjmills> helpmeplease: an external drive over usb?
[12:43] <jazzrocker> bimberi, hmm, ok then, i'll try it... one sec
[12:43] <helpmeplease> i dont have one
[12:43] <hjmills> helpmeplease: a memory stick - then to another pc
[12:43] <svish> soweto76: no nothing like that. it was a single character of some sort..
[12:43] <bruenig> cheap ones are about 60 dollars
[12:43] <ikonia> helpmeplease: what type of data is it
[12:43] <helpmeplease> lots of stuff
[12:43] <hjmills> helpmeplease: just get the really important stuff off with a floppy disk
[12:43] <ikonia> like what
[12:44] <bimberi> ikonia: is it important?
[12:44] <bruenig> helpmeplease, maybe some usb flash drives
[12:44] <helpmeplease> ive got a 69 gig partition almost full
[12:44] <ikonia> yes
[12:44] <ikonia> helpmeplease: what sort of stuff ?
[12:44] <hjmills> bruenig: i can get them for about 20 which is about 40 us dollars
[12:44] <MasterShrek> porn
[12:44] <MasterShrek> haha
[12:44] <soweto76> svish:   xhcat &  when run from an xterm will do what you wany maybe -- see job control.
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[12:44] <svish> soweto76: thanks
[12:44] <hjmills> helpmeplease: could you backup to another pc to backup
[12:44] <helpmeplease> its logal and not porn
[12:44] <bruenig> hjmills, well the lowest I could fine was 60 bucks
[12:45] <helpmeplease> i only have one pc
[12:45] <ikonia> helpmeplease: so what is it then
[12:45] <ikonia> why won't you answer
[12:45] <MasterShrek> u dont have to lie helpmeplease
[12:45] <MasterShrek> we can see through u
[12:45] <MasterShrek> through the lies
[12:45] <jazzrocker> ikonia, um... fourth amendmeht?
[12:45] <raid_synch_speed> hello everyone. could I ask someone some help with a raid1 array which is resynching very slooowly? thank you.
[12:45] <LameBMX> ty MasterShrek
[12:45] <ikonia> but he's asking for help
[12:45] <hjmills> bruenig: us dollars? odd - normally stuff here in the uk is more expensive - try www.ebuyer.com - i think it does the us as well
[12:45] <jazzrocker> ikonia, probably fith :)
[12:45] <bruenig> fourth amendment protects from unreasonable search and seizure
[12:45] <MasterShrek> im jus messin
[12:45] <MasterShrek> no hard feelings
[12:45] <helpmeplease> lots of stuff, files for work mostly
[12:45] <ikonia> helpmeplease: what type of data is it
[12:45] <ikonia> what type of files ?
[12:45] <jarrod10> !ask | raid_synch_speed
[12:45] <ubotu> raid_synch_speed: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:46] <helpmeplease> i cant afford to lose it
[12:46] <jazzrocker> bruenig, ummm yeah... in other words: privacy
[12:46] <ikonia> ok - you can't afford to lose it
[12:46] <ikonia> so what type of data is it
[12:46] <ikonia> you are dodging the question
[12:46] <LameBMX> i missed his question ... first thing i saw when i looked in here was: <helpmeplease> its logal and not porn
[12:46] <bruenig> jazzrocker, in other words: protection from abuse of government power
[12:46] <jazzrocker> bruenig, he doesn't have to disclose anything about the files on his computer
[12:46] <helpmeplease> mostly world and excel stuff
[12:46] <LameBMX> geez gotta luv irc
[12:46] <jazzrocker> bruenig, whatever, it was just a devils advocate moment
[12:46] <ikonia> you've got 69 gig of word and excel stuff on an ubuntu disk
[12:46] <Music_Shuffle> LameBMX, Lol. Agreed.
[12:46] <ikonia> ?
[12:46] <Peres> and what are u, from RIAA ikonia?
[12:46] <jazzrocker> bruenig, i don't really care lol
[12:46] <MasterShrek> helpmeplease u can always get the porn back via bittorrent
[12:46] <Peres> :)
[12:46] <hjmills> helpmeplease: you could try taking it to a professional data recovery firm - NOT a high street shop - they will probably assume its windows only and b0rk it entirely
[12:47] <helpmeplease> if i lose ubuntu its not a big loss
[12:47] <jazzrocker> ok, well i added said stuff to my /etc/hosts file
[12:47] <ikonia> mastershrek thats what I was trying to figure out if it could be compressed/and if its not re-sourceable
[12:47] <jazzrocker> but i still get the sudo error
[12:47] <ikonia> helpmeplease: just re-install ubuntu
[12:47] <hjmills> helpmeplease: they prob wont get back the win stuff either
[12:47] <helpmeplease> i cant lose my windows partition
[12:47] <jazzrocker> i logged out and back in with the non-root account
[12:47] <LameBMX> well helpmeplease whats up sit the drive ...
[12:47] <bruenig> helpmeplease, yeah I was trying to install gentoo on another partition and lost all of my stuff, music, videos, everything, many gigs of stuff. Only took a few weeks to get it all back, just find those torrents and get them back
[12:47] <Gosha> isn't there something like KShutDown for only ubuntu?
[12:47] <helpmeplease> and my darn partition table is "invalid", but i can mount my drives thru ubuntu
[12:47] <ikonia> 69 gig of word documents.....yeah yeah
[12:47] <bimberi> jazzrocker: is the output of the command 'hostname' on the 127.0.0.1 line (and it only)?
[12:47] <hjmills> helpmeplease: trust me - i work in one and the boss knows loads about windows but got confused trying to install something on linux when he couldnt find the program on the website
[12:48] <Gosha> !times_shutdown
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about times_shutdown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <Gosha> !timed_shutdown
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about timed_shutdown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <ikonia> helpmeplease: what are you doing that tells you your partition table is invalid
[12:48] <Gosha> !shutdown
[12:48] <Flannel> Gosha: what do you need to know?
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shutdown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <helpmeplease> booting up
[12:48] <martin__> 
[12:48] <bruenig> !fishing
[12:48] <jazzrocker> bimberi, no, i copied exactly what you have
[12:48] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:48] <martin__> 
[12:48] <genben> hi
[12:48] <ikonia> booting windows or linux
[12:48] <helpmeplease> before i get the selector
[12:48] <jazzrocker> bimberi, 127.0.0.1 foo.org foo localhost localhost.localdomain
[12:48] <LameBMX> Gosha, shutdown (-r -h) then time in seconds
[12:48] <Gosha> .. i want to shutdown ubuntu after a specified time
[12:48] <aN1> any1 use beryl?
[12:48] <Gosha> .. ?
[12:48] <helpmeplease> it stops there
[12:48] <jazzrocker> bimberi, all on the same line, and with my actual domain substituted for foo
[12:48] <ikonia> re-install ubuntu
[12:48] <Gosha> ooh
[12:48] <LameBMX> Gosha, sutdown -r now .... re boots the computer now
[12:48] <hjmills> helpmeplease: what did you do just before it became invalid?
[12:48] <genben> what is the name of the package that lets you enter alpha/num chars using the mouse (for the paranoid)?
[12:49] <sleepy007> aN1, yes
[12:49] <Gosha> .. so, no -r?
[12:49] <helpmeplease> nothing
[12:49] <jazzrocker> bimberi, in other words, 'foo.org' is the output of hostname
[12:49] <ikonia> I bet grub is looking on the wrong partition for menu.lst or something like that
[12:49] <Flannel> Gosha: yeah, just use the "shutdown" command, it's got built in time stuff.  man shutdown for formats on the times
[12:49] <LameBMX> gosha .. shutdown -h 6000
[12:49] <ekasad> Hello
[12:49] <bruenig> Gosha, sudo shutdown -h time
[12:49] <aN1> sleepy007,  omg plz help me i was messing around
[12:49] <LameBMX> Gosha, turns it off in ten minutes
[12:49] <bruenig> or should I say time elapsed
[12:49] <aN1> no i don't have cube anymore i have a pentagon
[12:49] <Gosha> ... time, in what?
[12:49] <helpmeplease> can i just write a new partition table?
[12:49] <hjmills> helpmeplease: this may help -
[12:49] <LameBMX> Gosha, seconds
[12:49] <bruenig> aN1, that is pretty impressive
[12:49] <bimberi> jazzrocker: ok, right.  then I'm starting to struggle
[12:49] <ikonia> helpmeplease: reinstall ubuntu
[12:49] <hjmills> helpmeplease: not without losing EVERYTHING
[12:49] <aN1> sleepy007,  how do i get back to a cube?
[12:49] <LameBMX> gosha also do 'man shutdown'
[12:49] <helpmeplease> wont help
[12:49] <hjmills> helpmeplease: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[12:49] <aN1> sleepy007, lol i don't want the pentagon
[12:49] <jazzrocker> bimberi, aight, well thanks anyway
[12:50] <ikonia> how do you know ?
[12:50] <Gosha> ... man shutdown?
[12:50] <Gosha> oh
[12:50] <jazzrocker> !hostname
[12:50] <Gosha> manual
[12:50] <bruenig> aN1, you went from a three dimensional object to a 2 dimensional object?
[12:50] <LameBMX> most ?'s can be answered by reading the man page and program --help
[12:50] <ikonia> re-install ubuntu
[12:50] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly
[12:50] <MTecknology> I'm trying to use gparted off of a live CD to make an extra partition to transfer data between Ubuntu and Windows. GParted seems to go through the motions of resizing the ext3 partition but doesn't actually resize it. This is the log when I run it from command line - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/401/ Anybody know why?
[12:50] <helpmeplease> reinstalling ubuntu wont help
[12:50] <LameBMX> Gosha, yea ..
[12:50] <helpmeplease> its in the partition table
[12:50] <sleepy007> aN1, beryl settings
[12:50] <ikonia> helpmeplease: then don't ask for help
[12:50] <jazzrocker> honestly, that doesn't really make sense
[12:50] <hjmills> !info testdisc
[12:50] <ubotu> Package testdisc does not exist in any distro I know
[12:50] <ikonia> then this isn't an ubnutu problem - get out
[12:50] <jazzrocker> /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname *cant* match
[12:50] <jazzrocker> not identically
[12:50] <helpmeplease> i get this before i get the selector screen for os
[12:50] <aN1> bruenig, no i had a 3d cube before now i have a 3 d pentagon without top and bottom
[12:50] <ikonia> helpmeplease: this isn't an ubuntu roblem
[12:50] <aN1> sleepy007,  yeah but which one?
[12:50] <bimberi> ikonia: for goodness sake
[12:50] <hjmills> helpmeplease: there is a program to fix it - http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[12:50] <ikonia> bimberi: well - he's not listening
[12:50] <MasterShrek> aN1 change ur settings so u have 4 sides
[12:51] <jazzrocker> well, ok it makes sense, but it's not very specific and it doesn't have a link
[12:51] <helpmeplease> its a partition table problem, and i'm in livecd
[12:51] <ikonia> I bet its the "invalid partition" warning from grub
[12:51] <aN1> MasterShrek,  where is dat?
[12:51] <ikonia> not invalid partition table
[12:51] <aN1> i looked every where
[12:51] <helpmeplease> grub isnt in mbr
[12:51] <aN1> can't find it anymore
[12:51] <ekasad> Is there anyone here that can offer any insight as to why the problem explained here occurs when trying to boot ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1964055
[12:51] <LameBMX> helpmeplease, its possible to rewrite the partitoin table .. did you back that up? if not the good luck with that one
[12:51] <sleepy007> aN1, wait
[12:51] <helpmeplease> no
[12:51] <MasterShrek> aN1 i couldnt tell u, ive never used it in ubuntu before
[12:51] <aN1> sleepy007, kk thx
[12:51] <aN1> ok
[12:51] <hjmills> helpmeplease: use one of these because you cant boot: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Livecd
[12:52] <ikonia> helpmeplease: so let me get this straight.
[12:52] <ikonia> you've not got grub
[12:52] <jazzrocker> ikonia, so kick him if you're an op (which you're not) or just /ignore him
[12:52] <ikonia> jazzrocker: this channel has so much noise
[12:52] <bimberi> ikonia: perhaps, but better just to say you can't help any more
[12:52] <helpmeplease> grub is not in the mbr
[12:52] <jazzrocker> ikonia, ungracious help is worse than no help
[12:52] <ikonia> why is someone asking for hardware help
[12:52] <LameBMX> aN1, whats up .. got a desktop pentagon instead of a cube?
[12:52] <xfrost>  How can I enable/disable boot-up services from the command line?.
[12:52] <helpmeplease> would putting it there make it boot?
[12:52] <meow^> i'm installing windows/ubuntu right now and i'm considering the same thing. if i were to partition a drive using fat32 would both os be able to write to it without having ot install extra software for ubuntu?
[12:53] <bimberi> xfrost: using the update-rc.d command
[12:53] <aN1> LameBMX,  yeah i want my cube back
[12:53] <ikonia> bimberi: I'd put money its not the partition table
[12:53] <aN1> lol
[12:53] <tritium> jazzrocker, ikonia: is there a problem?
[12:53] <jazzrocker> meow^, yeah but Fat32 sucks
[12:53] <Gosha> so .. lets see .. i wan to shutdown after 6 hours .. that's .. 60 * 60 * 6 , right?
[12:53] <LameBMX> an1 which version ..
[12:53] <ikonia> he can mount the partitions
[12:53] <ikonia> therefore there must be a partition table
[12:53] <aN1> LameBMX, 1.4
[12:53] <Gosha> want to*
[12:53] <ikonia> its probably the invalid partitoin warning
[12:53] <helpmeplease> i can mount them
[12:53] <kmasta> i just tried installing beryl and now my desktop is uber slow
[12:53] <ikonia> exactly !
[12:53] <helpmeplease> it says table
[12:53] <bimberi> tritium: s'ok (at present)
[12:53] <Peebo> 62% through downloading Ubuntu server CD and Firefox died. The .part file is still here, is there anyway to start the download from where it stopped
[12:54] <hjmills> helpmeplease: ok - mount anything you can and backup everything you need - grab a friends external hdd if you need to  then go here (http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page) and download that then go here (http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk) and learn to use test disc then boot from the SystemRescueCD and try and use TestDisc to recover the partition.
[12:54] <jazzrocker> meow^, there's really no good solution to that problem as of yet
[12:54] <tritium> bimberi: aye ;)
[12:54] <MasterShrek> Peebo start firefox up and look at your downloads
[12:54] <bimberi> ikonia: :)
[12:54] <MasterShrek> it might still show up
[12:54] <jazzrocker> meow^, i just run NTFS
[12:54] <ikonia> bimberi: pardon ?
[12:54] <jarrod10> helpmeplease: use an ipod as an hdd
[12:54] <svish> how do I find out what window manager im using?
[12:54] <jazzrocker> meow^, you can get write support for NTFS it's just extra... read support is default though, should be
[12:54] <ikonia> bimberi: missed the gag - sorry
[12:54] <Gosha> .. so i should do .. 'sudo shutdown -h -P 21600' right?
[12:54] <xfrost> bimberi, tnks a lot.
[12:54] <Peebo> It started from 0%
[12:54] <ikonia> the channels moving ar warp speed with random chatter
[12:54] <bimberi> ikonia: sorry, i was going to say something then i responded to tritiums post :/
[12:54] <jazzrocker> meow^, e.g. you'll have to download/install it separately
[12:54] <jazzrocker> !ntfs
[12:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:55] <bimberi> ikonia: without backspacing :)
[12:55] <ikonia> bimberi: totally missed it
[12:55] <Gosha> svish: check the about in help menu
[12:55] <ikonia> not to worry
[12:55] <meow^> i couldnt get fuse to work :(
[12:55] <jazzrocker> meow^, honestly i usually compile my own kernel and usually compile in NTFS write support, so i don't usually think about that
[12:55] <bazsl> I am trying to configure Samba on a machine with two network cards. Am I correct that I need two interface entries in smb.conf such as interfaces = eth0 and interfaces = eth1?
[12:55] <ikonia> bimberi: there is no way that was a partition table error if he could mount the partitions
[12:55] <LameBMX> an1 beryl settings manager ; general options ; main tab ; scroll down to "horizontal virtual size' and set that to 4 .. and it will be a cube .. or any other number if you want to play
[12:55] <Peres> and once again, its time...for off the hook
[12:55] <jazzrocker> meow^, there should be a kernel module somewhere iirc, for one of the default ubuntu kernels
[12:56] <svish> Gosha: what help menu?
[12:56] <aN1> LameBMX,  thank you soo very much
[12:56] <aN1> hehe
[12:56] <meow^> that sounds too advanced for me :)
[12:56] <ikonia> bimberi: thoughts
[12:56] <jazzrocker> meow^, did you check !ntfs-3g yet?
[12:56] <ikonia> ?
[12:56] <kmasta> why won't beryl work!
[12:56] <bimberi> ikonia: i agree (from the little i know about it)
[12:56] <maddash> how do I stop the kernel from auto-loading a certain module?
[12:56] <ikonia> bimberi: thats what was getting frustrating
[12:56] <LameBMX> np anytime ...
[12:56] <aN1> LameBMX i wish beryl will write a documentation soon
[12:56] <ikonia> he wouldn't listen
[12:56] <ikonia> he knew everything and wouldn't do anything
[12:56] <jazzrocker> meow^, bah, if you're using linux you really should get over the whole "i'm a dummy" complex, you won't get very far otherwise
[12:56] <LameBMX> fun setting to play with
[12:56] <ikonia> thats why I was getting frustrated
[12:56] <meow^> !ntfs-3g
[12:56] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:56] <Gosha> svish, in the window manager
[12:56] <bimberi> ikonia: fair enough :)  I just wanted to stop you boiling over :)
[12:57] <LameBMX> aN1, i really advise to keep the finger off the wheel when playing with settings ...
[12:57] <svish> Gosha: um.. lol.. where is that?
[12:57] <LameBMX> an1 that changes things really fast ...
[12:57] <aN1> LameBMX yeah that must been wut i have done
[12:57] <Gosha> svish, oh wait .. maybe nvm :P
[12:57] <aN1> always back up rite?
[12:57] <ikonia> bimberi: this channel is busy enough with random noise, then someone comes in asking for help - then says its not ubuntu - should he really be in here if he doesn't want to listen
[12:57] <ikonia> I know its harsh but this channel is filled with random noise
[12:57] <ikonia> some good problems get missed
[12:57] <svish> Gosha: lol, what??
[12:58] <Gosha> svish nvm nvm, thought you asked about the file manager
[12:58] <ikonia> I hope you see where I was coming from
[12:58] <LameBMX> an1 yea i hit the scroll wheel on water viscosity ... and my desktop turned into jello in the electric chair
[12:58] <jazzrocker> ikonia, and here you are futher contributing to the "noise" you so dislike by bitching about something when you could have used /ignore and been done with it...
[12:58] <ikonia> jazzrocker: thats a fair point
[12:58] <ikonia> just frustrating when you can see the problem
[12:58] <MasterShrek> ur all a bunch of whiners
[12:58] <LameBMX> aN1 .beryl/beryl-config or something like that if it gets fubared
[12:58] <aN1> LameBMX haha i can't imagine how u got it back to hormall
[12:58] <maddash> is it possible to disable the autoload of certain modules?
[12:59] <genben> hi, what is the name of the package that lets you enter alpha/num chars using the mouse (for the paranoid)?
[12:59] <jazzrocker> maddash, yes, modules.conf i beleive
[12:59] <Gosha> can i .. reinject the CD i just ejected?
[12:59] <Gosha> !inject
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inject - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <ikonia> jazzrocker: can you blacklist in modules.conf ?
[12:59] <Gosha> !fishinf
[12:59] <LameBMX> an1 .beryl/settings ... then .beryl-managerrc (advanced beryl options in the drop down menu)
[12:59] <Gosha> !fishing
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fishinf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:59] <aN1> LameBMX yeah thx a whole bunch, can't wait they release 7.04 with beryl already built in
[12:59] <CHiNiLLo> buenas
[12:59] <LameBMX> ah
[12:59] <ikonia> aN1: you'll get some great help on xgl/beryl in ubuntu-xgl
[12:59] <aN1> LameBMX and seriously beryl team needs to do more documentation
[12:59] <Peres> irc://irc.2600.net/offthehook
[12:59] <ikonia> some really clued up gues on it
[12:59] <jazzrocker> maddash, mmm, dunno, it's been a while for me on *nix, i've got bits of FreeBSD and RedHat running around mixed in with Debian and Slackware lol
[01:00] <maddash> jazzrocker: /etc/modules.conf?
[01:00] <LameBMX> tech supportin that will be a pain .. i suggested in their dev channel to kill the scroll bar ... too easy to make things unusable
[01:00] <Peebo> !beryl
[01:00] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:00] <jazzrocker> maddash, if i'm not mistaken yes
[01:00] <aN1> ikonia, yeah i no i should ask there but im new to irc so i don't even know how to connect there lol
[01:00] <ikonia> jazzrocker: not sure you can blacklist modules in modules.conf
[01:00] <ikonia> just force load
[01:00] <maddash> jazzrocker: don't have it there
[01:00] <ikonia> aN1: "join ubuntu-xgl" same way you did for this chanel
[01:00] <LameBMX> an1 i dont find the documentation lacking ... everything seems straight forward to me ...
[01:01] <LameBMX> an1 and i just play with things and see what they do lol
[01:01] <ikonia> aN1: that should read "/join #ubuntu-xgl"
[01:01] <kmasta> can some one please help me with beryl, i don't think my 3D accelleration is working
[01:01] <tritium> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist is where you can blacklist modules
[01:01] <ikonia> kmasta: the beryl support channel is #ubuntu-xgl
[01:01] <aN1> ikonia,  hehe thx
[01:01] <ikonia> tritium: thats the one
[01:01] <LameBMX> kmasta, glxinfo | grep direct ... just like in the howto
[01:01] <LameBMX> !beryl
[01:01] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:01] <ikonia> didn't think you could do i in modules.conf
[01:01] <raid_synch_speed> !raid
[01:01] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:02] <Mamasan> Hey, can anyone help me with some USB issues I'm having?
[01:02] <maddash> that's b/c there is no modules.conf
[01:02] <daviey> Hi, anybody using bluetooth to share files from pc to mobile/cell?
[01:02] <raid_synch_speed> !speed_limit_min
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about speed_limit_min - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <raid_synch_speed> !speed_limit_max
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about speed_limit_max - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <Flannel> raid_synch_speed: please stop fishing.  If you really want to, do it in a query with ubtou
[01:03] <tritium> !fishing > raid_synch_speed
[01:03] <Mamasan> !usb
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <tritium> *sigh*
[01:04] <ikonia> tritium: welcome to tonights frustration
[01:04] <ikonia> although I vented it badley
[01:04] <jakob> What's the difference between $ and # in the terminal?
[01:05] <Nvening> hi
[01:05] <raid_synch_speed> Flannel, sorry
[01:05] <MasterShrek> hi Nvening
[01:05] <crimsun> normally, an unprivileged user's and a root user's prompt, respectively, jakob
[01:05] <MasterShrek> whats up
[01:05] <Nvening> Is the max file size limit of ext3 16GB??
[01:05] <cyphase> the recent firefox upgrade is incompatible with the themes from firefox-themes-ubuntu
[01:05] <MTecknology> how do I mount /dev/hda as read/write??
[01:05] <jakob> crimsun how do I change it to #?
[01:05] <crimsun> jakob: sudo -i
[01:05] <ikonia> jakob: PS1=#
[01:06] <Mamasan> Hey, I just installed ubuntu.  When I boot up now, my usb keyboard and mouse arn't being initilized.  Any ideas?
[01:06] <aN1> LameBMX,  hehe u proved me wrong there are alot of posts t.t put down again
[01:06] <jakob> thanks, how do I change it back?
[01:06] <MasterDirk> I tried the live-cd, it didn't work at all. What's a good next move?
[01:06] <ikonia> PS1=$
[01:06] <MTecknology> MasterDirk, what happened?
[01:06] <h3xis> LameBMX, tirus89 show his face in here yet?
[01:06] <Nvening> ikona, help me please :)
[01:06] <ikonia> Nvening: whats up
[01:06] <LameBMX> roflmao
[01:06] <MasterDirk> It said X (?) didn't initialise
[01:06] <ikonia> MasterDirk: using ATI video card ?
[01:06] <Nvening> what is the max file size limit of ext3?
[01:07] <MasterDirk> yes
[01:07] <Nvening> i google it but got mixed results
[01:07] <MTecknology> how do I mount /dev/hda as read/write??
[01:07] <ikonia> Nvening: not sure of the top of my head, but its something silly like 24 gig
[01:07] <Nvening> well wikipedia says 16gm
[01:07] <h3xis> MTecknology, in fstab add the "rw" option
[01:07] <ikonia> thats possible, but I thought it was bigger
[01:07] <Nvening> see its form media so it needs to be considered
[01:07] <MTecknology> h3xis, never used fstab
[01:07] <aN1> Nvening in fstab change default to unmask=0222
[01:08] <LameBMX> no i havent seen tirus
[01:08] <h3xis> MTecknology, you should learn to use it, it's quite important. it's in /etc/fstab
[01:08] <LameBMX> h3xis, ^
[01:08] <h3xis> ah
[01:08] <h3xis> im sure he'll be in
[01:08] <sleepy007> MTecknology, , what file system
[01:08] <LameBMX> i hope so ...
[01:08] <LameBMX> kinda
[01:08] <h3xis> "liek omg you guys i got edgy to workk!"
[01:08] <h3xis> if he says that
[01:08] <Nvening> aN1, what will that do?
[01:08] <h3xis> i'll kill him
[01:08] <LameBMX> roflmao
[01:08] <MTecknology> sleepy007, I want to mount to whole disk so I can change the partitions.
[01:08] <aN1> ? omg sorri i typed it to wrong guy
[01:08] <LameBMX> i dont that it will be that way though ... but i could still be wrong
[01:08] <Nvening> kk
[01:08] <aN1> he was asking how to mount something read and write
[01:08] <aN1> lol
[01:09] <Nvening> ok then, the ext3 driver on windows, is that stable??
[01:09] <ikonia> Nvening: I've got a note here that says 36gb
[01:09] <Nvening> i see, well 16GB is fine anyway!
[01:09] <MasterDirk> so, I can't use a Live-CD with an ATI card?
[01:10] <Nvening> ye u can
[01:10] <MasterShrek> u should be able to MasterDirk
[01:10] <Nvening> it includes OS drivers
[01:10] <Nvening> but
[01:10] <Nvening> u can get jerking issues
[01:10] <aN1> Masterdirk hold on
[01:10] <MTecknology> h3xis, there is no /etc/fstab
[01:10] <aN1> i know how to do it but i forgot the location
[01:10] <MasterDirk> holding :)
[01:10] <Nvening> so i use the official ones once installed
[01:10] <h3xis> MTecknology, there is.
[01:11] <MasterDirk> Is there any site where I can check whether any other HW I have will have issues? It'd be nice to know before installing (kind of why I wanted to try the live-cd)
[01:11] <MegaTrousers> Can anyone help me a moment? My virtual consoles all appear corrupt when I ctrl-alt-F_ to them. When I run fglrxinfo, I get "OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 Generic". I am running this on Ubuntu Edgy 6.10 on an ASUS A7J laptop. Hardware acceleration appears to work under virtual window f7, the gui, when I run tuxracer and the like.
[01:12] <agent> anyone know of software that creates tutorials/presentations of *software*? looking to create a tutorial on how to use a program. like wink, but foss?
[01:12] <aN1> MasterDirk,  go to terminal type sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:12] <MegaTrousers> agent: Checkout OpenOffice Presentation
[01:12] <MegaTrousers> Ok
[01:12] <nikin> MasterDir: the best is to google everything.
[01:12] <ikonia> Nvening: its 2 TB
[01:12] <aN1> MasterDirk, under device change the driver to vesa
[01:12] <ikonia> just read it from the kernel
[01:12] <aN1> MasterDirk,  that will get u the graphic desktop
[01:12] <MegaTrousers> MasterDirk: Ok
[01:12] <MTecknology> h3xis, nope - but I am on ubuntu live
[01:13] <aN1> then search around to install ati oss drivers for good performance
[01:13] <h3xis> MTecknology, might be why
[01:13] <MegaTrousers> MasterDirk: But won't my ATI driver be gone?
[01:13] <MegaTrousers> oss is for sound, not video?
[01:13] <jakob> can someone tell me what this means "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[01:13] <MTecknology> h3xis, but I can't edit partitions that i'm working on
[01:13] <agent> MegaTrousers: oo presentation is just a normal slideshow presentation software... im trying to create a video presentation with nice popup messages on how to use a particulare piece of software
[01:13] <aN1> MasterDirk, if that still fails try to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg
[01:13] <MegaTrousers> This happened as soon as I ugraded from dapper to edgy
[01:13] <aN1> maybe u have ur mointor set up wrong
[01:13] <sleepy007> jakob, run tahat
[01:13] <MasterDirk> OK, I'll write those down and try. Thanks
[01:13] <Nvening> oh cool ikona,i shouldnt have any problems with that!!!!!
[01:13] <sleepy007> jakob, run that and wait
[01:14] <sleepy007> jakob, it will fix itself
[01:14] <MasterDirk> Can't really have it set up wrong, it's a laptop :)
[01:14] <agent> jakob: that means some piece of software did not finish configuring itself when you updated or installed it
[01:14] <aN1> MasterDirk,  worst come to worst get the alternative install cd it will install ubuntu using text mode
[01:14] <sleepy007> jakob, yes
[01:14] <nikin> MasterDir: Laptops are Evil
[01:14] <ikonia> Nvening: I date you to utilise that !
[01:14] <mnoir> jakob: it prolly means that dpkg was interrupted and to fix it you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a'.
[01:14] <ikonia> s/date/dare
[01:14] <MasterDirk> Laptops are sweet. Wouldn't want things to be easy, would you?
[01:15] <aN1> ikonia fruodian slip
[01:15] <MegaTrousers> MasterDirk: I don't want to replace my ATI driver with VESA. That isn't fixing the problem, just replacing it with a generic driver.
[01:15] <darwinuse> hey
[01:15] <MegaTrousers> MasterDirk: Any ideas?
[01:15] <MasterDirk> hm? Asking me? I'm the newbie here :)
[01:15] <jakob> sleepy007, agent and mnoir I end up with some EULA for VMWARE each time I run that.
[01:15] <maddash> hey, it's h3xis
[01:15] <darwinuse> anyone hear about the FSF anti-microsoft run they started last month
[01:15] <darwinuse> its awesome
[01:16] <stoan>  /nick recon
[01:16] <h3xis> omg maddash
[01:16] <mnoir> jakob: so?
[01:16] <Flannel> darwinuse: #ubuntu-offtopic for general chit-chat, thanks.
[01:16] <MasterShrek> MegaTrousers go to ati's website and download the driver
[01:16] <darwinuse> sorry
[01:16] <nikin> MasterDir: i have 2 laptops... i know :D but i came across some weird things. Like the BIOS operating system setting.
[01:16] <rukuartic> Hey all. I'm looking to drop windows back on my laptop for a lan party... I've got a 4th partition for it so Ubuntu'll still stick there, but I know windows scrubs the MBR. How would I install GRUB again?
[01:16] <MegaTrousers> MasterShrek: I already have it installed...
[01:16] <Flannel> !grub | rukuartic
[01:16] <ubotu> rukuartic: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:16] <MegaTrousers> aN1: I don't want to replace my ATI driver with VESA. That isn't fixing the problem, just replacing it with a generic driver.
[01:16] <agent> jakob: why are you trying to install vmware? vmware is not freedom software.... try qemu or, must faster than vwmware or qemu, xen
[01:16] <nikin> MasterDirk: but it will be fine :D
[01:16] <rukuartic> Flannel: Awesome! Thank you.
[01:16] <MasterShrek> and it still doesnt work MegaTrousers ?
[01:16] <MegaTrousers> MasterShrek: That's right
[01:17] <MasterShrek> use an older driver
[01:17] <aN1> MegaTrouser u have the lastes driver and tiz not workin?
[01:17] <recon> rukuartic: I'd recommend making a grub boot disk, then running grub-install on ubuntu once you finish the install.
[01:17] <jakob> agent how do I get rid of it? I'm trying to install java, but each time I end up with the vmware
[01:17] <MegaTrousers> aN1: That's right. Latest that come with Ubuntu
[01:17] <aN1> MegaTrousers,  u have proprietary driveR?
[01:17] <aN1> MegaTrousers,  ubuntu doesn't pack with the lastest
[01:17] <MegaTrousers> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[01:17] <MegaTrousers> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 Generic
[01:17] <MegaTrousers> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6011 (8.28.8)
[01:17] <darwinuse> I want to install Ubuntu 6.10 onto my pc with windows on it already, I have the DVD in shipment to me atm but is it safe to put Ubuntu 6.10 on now? someone told me it takes a year to be cooked with each update?
[01:17] <aN1> MegaTrousers, let me give u a link
[01:17] <agent> jakob: find out the package name of vmware (may be just vmware) and try: sudo apt-get remove --purge vmware
[01:18] <MegaTrousers> I have installed the ATI driver from their website before on Debian, but won't that conflict with the one that comes with Ubuntu?
[01:18] <Astaroth_> i was trying to build my own kernel, was using this manual: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158 | when i boot my kernel it stops at " Begin: Waiting for root file system..." the thread says i gotta activate s-ata support, which i did, but its still stopping there
[01:18] <agent> jakob: if that does not work, try: sudo apt-get -f install
[01:18] <zenwhen> o
[01:18] <Nvening> is that agent from hexus?
[01:18] <aN1> MegaTrousers,  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[01:18] <ikonia> Astaroth_: you sure it says "waiting"
[01:18] <MegaTrousers> Thanks
[01:18] <aN1> follow this link it should work the graphic one is here
[01:18] <ConvertOne> good night................................................................
[01:18] <agent> Nvening: no
[01:19] <Nvening> gah
[01:19] <MegaTrousers> aN1: And so I should not worry about the one that comes with Edgy?
[01:19] <Astaroth_> ikonia: yep, but after a minute or two it says it could not be loaded
[01:19] <Nvening> well we still have ikona :)
[01:19] <MegaTrousers> Just follow the instructions as is and they will overwrite?
[01:19] <jakob> agent I tried the remove, but it gave me this again "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.". And if I run that I get the wmvare EULA again
[01:19] <MegaTrousers> aN1: That ok?
[01:19] <ikonia> Astaroth_: can you get the exact error
[01:19] <aN1> MegaTrousers,  u can uninstall the restricted module first
[01:19] <MegaTrousers> What is it called?
[01:19] <aN1> MegaTrousers,  but u will loose gui
[01:19] <ikonia> Astaroth_: don't forget you have to build disk drivers into the kernels - not modules
[01:19] <aN1> if itz ok with u
[01:19] <recon39> hello everyone I am trying to install mythtv on ubuntu but gdebi won't install it does anyone know how to install package on ubuntu
[01:19] <MegaTrousers> aN1: Ok
[01:20] <MegaTrousers> aN1: What is it called?
[01:20] <aN1> here is a graphic one with alot of pix http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html
[01:20] <xfrost> How can I enable/disable boot-up services on the command line?.
[01:20] <Astaroth_> ikonia: its drivers, but how can i make sure i activated the sata thing?
[01:20] <jakob> agent, tried the "sudo apt-get -f install" it gave me the same output
[01:20] <darwinuse> anyone? I want to install Ubunti 6.10 with windows xp, i have been told its not wise because Ubuntu updates takee  a year to cook, is that the case?
[01:20] <MasterShrek> recon39 compile it from source
[01:20] <darwinuse> is it wise?
[01:20] <ikonia> Astaroth_: build sata drivers into the kernels
[01:20] <ikonia> not as modules
[01:20] <aN1> MegaTrousers,  just use the two links i gave u it should work im no ati user so can only help u dis much and wuts wut calleD?
[01:20] <Nvening> is journaling the only difference between ext2 and ext3, no differences in fiel size limits?
[01:20] <agent> darwinuse: why are you trying to cook your computer?
[01:20] <Nvening> *file
[01:20] <ikonia> Nvening: I think there is
[01:20] <ikonia> ext2 smaller
[01:20] <agent> darwinuse: are you out of food?
[01:20] <ikonia> but I'm not certain
[01:21] <darwinuse> lol
[01:21] <MegaTrousers> aN1: The package for the driver I am using?
[01:21] <Astaroth_> ikonia: yeah i did, is it just the "support for sata" thing?
[01:21] <recon39> mastershrek I don't know how to compile it from source could you fill me in please
[01:21] <darwinuse> seriously is it smart to install 6.10 now? or 6.06 and install the updates?
[01:21] <xfrost> How can I enable/disable boot-up services on the command line?.
[01:21] <klees> can someone help me write a script that modifies /etc/fstab with the results from blkid??
[01:21] <ikonia> no
[01:21] <ikonia> Astaroth_: no
[01:21] <Astaroth_> ikonia: because the description says there are two sata drivers
[01:21] <ikonia> Astaroth_: you need to include the correct chipset
[01:21] <Astaroth_> cant find the second
[01:21] <MasterShrek> heh, recon39 thats probably not your best bet really, u shold see if its located in a repo somewhere
[01:21] <Astaroth_> ikonia: so?
[01:21] <Nvening> well basically i need my media drive acessable in both ubuntu and in windows
[01:21] <becky_> Hi everyone, I am in a terminal at the moment, trying to execute a .jar file, but all I am getting is an error: "Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from...2
[01:22] <becky_> Hi everyone, I am in a terminal at the moment, trying to execute a .jar file, but all I am getting is an error: "Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from..."*
[01:22] <aN1> Megatrousers, : ati-driver-installer-8.32.5-x86.x86_64.run
[01:22] <ikonia> Nvening: ext is not a good idea
[01:22] <Nvening> why?
[01:22] <ikonia> Astaroth_: so have you built in the correct sata chipset
[01:22] <ikonia> Nvening: ext reading from windows is weak
[01:22] <nikin> darwinuse.. erase XP :D  bytheway  think a clean 6.10 would be better, but thats just my opinion
[01:22] <Nvening> right
[01:22] <Nvening> ok
[01:22] <Astaroth_> ikonia: i dunno, where are they?
[01:22] <rukuartic> klees: Can't you just put it in normally?
[01:22] <Nvening> better ideas?
[01:22] <recon39> I don't know alot about ubuntu i am new at this i have been on windows too long
[01:22] <Ralith> in Xubuntu, is the default suspend action suspend to disk, or suspend to ram?
[01:22] <darwinuse> nikin i use xp for call of duty 2 and other stuff lol
[01:22] <ikonia> Astaroth_: in the kernel drivers section
[01:22] <agent> jakob: what about: sudo dpkg --purge vmware
[01:23] <ikonia> Astaroth_: why are you building your own kernel
[01:23] <agent> jakob: and why did you try to install vmware!
[01:23] <klees> rukuartic: that's what im doing right now but i would like to automate my "restore" process
[01:23] <Nvening> i setup ntfs in ubuntu but i hear thats weak too
[01:23] <rukuartic> klees: I'm not too swift at perl... sorry. :( There's ways to do it though.
[01:23] <ikonia> Nvening: there isn't really a cross platform file system thats stable yet
[01:23] <agent> jakob: do you use automatix or some other software like it?
[01:23] <nikin> darwinuse... i ame just now installing guildwars on ubuntu... i hope it works :D maybe there is a way to get call of Duty to :D
[01:23] <logivision> I'm looking to use PC Anywhere on a linux machine. On their website they say they only support Red Hat, SuSe, and a couple other distributions but NOT Ubuntu. Will it still work if I install it, or is there a way to get it to work ?
[01:23] <rukuartic> klees: /msg me and let me see what I can do. I might be able to patch something
[01:23] <sleepy009> ntfs-3g ext2fs work for me good
[01:23] <Nvening> how stable is fat32?
[01:23] <klees> rukuartic: i was wondering of a bash script
[01:23] <DaveOst> hi all
[01:23] <aN1> Astaroth u shouldn't build ur own kernel unless some specific hardware u use needs kernel to be configured a certain way
[01:23] <Astaroth_> ikonia: i want my bootup to be faster, also my sound doesnt work, i want alsa to be built in
[01:24] <jakob> agent, yes I did
[01:24] <ikonia> Astaroth_: a custom kernel won't boot faster
[01:24] <agent> !automatix | jakob
[01:24] <ubotu> jakob: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:24] <aN1> Astaroth_,  if u compile ur own u will loose supprot from ubuntu updates
[01:24] <Nvening> let me look at ntfs-3g hang ob
[01:24] <mnoir> Nvening: fat32 is pretty good
[01:24] <DaveOst> hey, anyone here, that speaks german_
[01:24] <ikonia> why do you want alsa built in
[01:24] <darwinuse> yeah but I was told that I can't use certain irc clients on ubuntu 6.10 if I install it
[01:24] <becky_> Does anyone know how to execute a .jar file from the terminal?
[01:24] <aN1> the kernel part atleast
[01:24] <ikonia> and we can fix your sound card with the ubuntu kernel
[01:24] <ikonia> Nvening: I really wouldn't
[01:24] <Astaroth_> so well
[01:24] <ikonia> for a stable system Nvening
[01:24] <Astaroth_> i'm using the generic kernel
[01:24] <hyperb0lix> becky_: I'm sure the java program can do that
[01:24] <ikonia> its ood but buggy
[01:24] <ikonia> Astaroth_: why is that a problem
[01:25] <jakob> agent, how about the add/remove mentioned in the programs tab
[01:25] <ikonia> the generic kernel is good
[01:25] <agent> jakob: try the automatix channel, but don't tell them automatix broke your install (even though it did) because they all have very big egos and will not help you
[01:25] <Astaroth_> sound was working while i used the 386 kernel
[01:25] <darwinuse> astaroth for you to be able to even make a kernel is better than i'll ever make it to
[01:25] <Flannel> becky_: java
[01:25] <becky_> hyperb0lix: I did 'java -jar thejar.jar' and it returned that error ^^^
[01:25] <ikonia> I'm sure we can fix your sound issues
[01:25] <hyperb0lix> becky_: Ooh, error... what was the msg?
[01:25] <DaveOst> somebody there who helps a newbie with a big login problem?
[01:25] <Nvening> hmmmmmmmmmmm
[01:25] <jakob> agent, lol. I think I might have fixed it, I tried uninstalling it through automatix and though it gave me an error it seems it's now gone
[01:25] <agent> jakob: not sure which add/remove you are talking about, but you can always try it.... you have to realize that synaptic and add/remove both use apt-get
[01:25] <Astaroth_> but smp wasnt, nvidia driver were not working, now i fixed it and i can boot with the generic kernel
[01:26] <logivision> Dave0st: don't ask for help, just ask your questions.
[01:26] <becky_> hyperb0lix: "Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from theJarfile.jar"
[01:26] <mnoir> DaveOst: not if you do not ask a real question
[01:26] <Astaroth_> but since the first boot sound doesnt work anymore
[01:26] <agent> jakob: do yourself a favor and remove automatix before you break something else :)
[01:26] <DaveOst> okey :P
[01:26] <aN1> Astaroth to have smp u need to pic the write cd to install from but there is another way
[01:26] <Astaroth_> i'm using a terratec aureon 5.1 usb mkii / usb-audio
[01:26] <becky_> hyperb0lix: It's not the jar file either, it happens with all of them, from multiple sources.
[01:26] <aN1> hold on i have a post deep somewhere
[01:26] <nikin> compiling wine is a fine and long coffe break :D
[01:26] <Astaroth_> aN1: it already works now
[01:26] <dredhammer> hello i recently upgraded to Edgy from Dapper and now my dvd movies  dont play all the way through they stop at accessing the second layer and i get a message about not having libdvdcss
[01:26] <ikonia> aN1: no you don't
[01:26] <dredhammer> which i do have installed
[01:26] <rukuartic> nikin: Agreed!
[01:26] <hyperb0lix> becky_: Hmm, not sure - I'll google what I can
[01:26] <ikonia> aN1: the livecd will install an smp kernel
[01:26] <becky_> hyperb0lix: Thanks
[01:27] <Nvening> i have an idea
[01:27] <Astaroth_> the generic kernel supports smp, so that problem is solved
[01:27] <rukuartic> dredhammer: apt-get install libdecss2 perhaps
[01:27] <ikonia> Astaroth_: exactly
[01:27] <dv_> I still want SATA hotswappong.
[01:27] <darwinuse> i tried to put wine on darwin , didn't work out well
[01:27] <hyperb0lix> becky_: You're using the java that's installed...?
[01:27] <rukuartic> dredhammer: Sorry, libdvdcss2
[01:27] <Astaroth_> there's just my sound issue remaining
[01:27] <hyperb0lix> becky_: It's the java-common package, if I can recall correctly
[01:27] <becky_> hyperb0lix, yep.
[01:27] <ikonia> whats the problem with the sound - is the device there, can apps see the sound card, is alsamixer working etc etc
[01:27] <hyperb0lix> becky_: I just install the JDK from Sun's site
[01:27] <jakob> agent, do you know how I get to the automatix channel?
[01:28] <agent> jakob: also, run sudo apt-get -f install and then sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:28] <becky_> hyperb0lix: I'll give that a go. Hand about.
[01:28] <becky_> hang*
[01:28] <Astaroth_> the sound config in gnome recongnizes the soundcard but there's just no sound output
[01:28] <dredhammer> what repository do i have to enable for that?
[01:28] <agent> jakob: not sure what it is, but you can try typing in /j #automatix
[01:28] <Astaroth_> i'm getting error messages, sec
[01:28] <aN1> Astaroth, sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp
[01:28] <n2diy> ! automatix | jacob
[01:28] <ubotu> jacob: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:28] <agent> jakob: #automatix is the channel that i am guessing and /j is short of /join
[01:28] <jakob> agent, I finally got it fixed. Apparantly I was able to click ok within the vmware text and click don't accept
[01:28] <maddash> can someone tell me how to disable the autoload of particular kernel modules
[01:29] <aN1> Astaroth, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85917
[01:29] <Astaroth_> aN1: i'm using the generic kernel, no need for a patch, but thanks ;)
[01:29] <darwinuse> does anyone else not like katie couric besides me?
[01:29] <darwinuse> lol
[01:29] <aN1> ok
[01:29] <jakob> thanks for your help agent =)
[01:29] <Slart> maddash: there is a blacklist.. I used it for ipv6
[01:29] <darwinuse> *turns CBS news off*
[01:29] <agent> jakob: now just run what i mentioned above to make sure everything is clean and remove automatix :)
[01:29] <ikonia> maddash: titanium told you earlier
[01:29] <sleepy009> becky_, java -server -jar name.jar
[01:29] <maddash> slart: where?
[01:29] <Slart> maddash: it's something like /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:29] <agent> jakob: friends don't let friends run automatix
[01:29] <agent> :)
[01:29] <zan_d> hello
[01:29] <maddash> ikonia: I pressed "ctrl+d" and my log erased itself
[01:29] <Astaroth_> i'm getting a message like "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Couldn't open resource for writing" when i test alsa
[01:30] <DaveOst> ive installed ubuntu for the first time, when I executed the "sudo oem-config-prepare" i gave my account a wrong loginname.  Then I tried to correct it. and i gave my account a wrong location to store my personal data (i dont know how you call this folder in english)   But my problem ist, that i cant login anymore
[01:30] <zan_d> so i have a laptop with busted cd drive, i installed ubuntu on the HD in a desktop machine
[01:30] <zan_d> but now my video settings are screwed, so i can't startx
[01:30] <LameBMX> Astaroth_,
[01:30] <ikonia> is your user in the audio group
[01:30] <aN1> Jakob, haha soo funny friends don't let friends run automatix
[01:30] <recon39> does anyone know how to install a package that gdebi won't install
[01:30] <aN1> yeah use easyubuntu
[01:30] <ikonia> recon39: apt-get
[01:30] <mnoir> DaveOst: are you logged in now?
[01:30] <aN1> dpkg -i
[01:31] <dredhammer> where can i find libdvdcss2?
[01:31] <bimberi> maddash: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:31] <becky_> hyperb0lix/sleepy009: installing JDK fixed it, I now ever have an option when right clicking the file to run in java runtime environment, thanks all for help - Becky out.
[01:31] <DaveOst> i am running the live cd
[01:31] <Astaroth_> ikonia: sure, sound was working with the 386 kernel
[01:31] <ikonia> dredhammer: check the wiki for "restricted formats"
[01:31] <mnoir> oic
[01:31] <recon39> is that through the terrmanal
[01:31] <Flannel> !libdvdcss
[01:31] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:31] <hyperb0lix> becky_: np
[01:31] <becky_> cheers
[01:31] <aN1> recon39, yeah
[01:31] <nikin> DaveOst: do you have any other logins?
[01:31] <recon39> thanks
[01:31] <aN1> np
[01:31] <DaveOst> no, just this one
[01:31] <DaveOst> and mayebe root
[01:31] <DaveOst> but i dont now a password for root
[01:31] <LameBMX> Astaroth_,  ... suco nano /etc/group        ... and append your name to audio ... like : audio:*:29:lamebmx
[01:32] <zan_d> can i reinstall without a cd
[01:32] <mnoir> DaveOst: what do you mean wrong? please give more detail
[01:32] <maddash> bimberi: should I create one b/c it doesn't exist in /etc/modprobes.d
[01:32] <zan_d> i do have internet connection on it
[01:32] <DaveOst> hm
[01:32] <nikin> DaveOst: there is no root by default in Ubuntu
[01:32] <LameBMX> Astaroth_, thats sudo nano
[01:32] <Astaroth_> yeah i know
[01:32] <jj1> hey ,i have a huge issue here i cant log on to windows, its a boot loaer issue
[01:32] <Nvenin1> what a linux alternative to MS publisher?
[01:32] <DaveOst> wait a minute please, its not easy to write in english :)
[01:32] <mnoir> Nvenin1: pub is a sore point for conversion
[01:32] <LameBMX> Astaroth_, thats what fixed that error for me ...
[01:32] <Astaroth_> my name is on the list
[01:32] <sleepy009> Nvenin1, scribus
[01:32] <kingace> jjl: whats the issue
[01:32] <bimberi> maddash: yes, and add lines like "blacklist modulename" to it
[01:32] <squidly> lol english is not easy for thoes who speak it! lol ^^
[01:32] <Nvenin1> is it any good?
[01:33] <Slart> Nvenin: scribus is good.. don't know if it's the perfect replacement
[01:33] <ikonia> Nvening: its ok
[01:33] <LameBMX> you can also try editing the menus to have gksudo in front of them
[01:33] <mnoir> Nvenin1: there is no auto conversion - we manually converted
[01:33] <ikonia> good for basic use
[01:33] <kingace> Nvenin1: not if your looking for all the built in templates
[01:33] <ikonia> I can't use it in advanved ways
[01:33] <squidly> Slart: replacement for what?
[01:33] <Nvenin1> no templates here
[01:33] <Slart> squidly: MS publisher
[01:33] <agent> DaveOst: what language do you write in well?
[01:33] <kingace> Nvenin1: for example if you want it to generate 100 thank you cards from templates, not happening
[01:33] <squidly> Slart: ahh
[01:33] <mnoir> Nvenin1: but oo write does everything and more than pub
[01:33] <dredhammer> anyone on Edgy having problems with commercial dvd playback? When the second disk  layer has to be read i get an error about not having libdvdcss which is installed
[01:33] <jj1> kingace:i done some thing with a partition in windows, now it wont boot
[01:33] <IndyTim> Quick fstab question.. I'm running Kubuntu Edgy and I want to duplicate one of my mounted partitions and assign something more meaningful than sdb3 (ie LinuxBU).  Can I dup the fstab line for the sdb3 and assign it to a newly created folder in /media  (dazed and confused over the uuid=)?
[01:33] <Astaroth_> LameBMX: so this still doesnt solve this issue
[01:34] <ikonia> dredhammer: check the wiki I sent you
[01:34] <Nvenin1> i just basically use it like word, i prefer text boxes system etc unless im writing an essay
[01:34] <kingace> jjl: what did you do
[01:34] <nikin> DaveOst: thats a problem.. if you realy dont know the root passwd
[01:34] <ikonia> it tells you how to set it all up
[01:34] <LameBMX> did you just change it Astaroth_
[01:34] <LameBMX> or was it already like that
[01:34] <kingace> what software do you guys use to design website mockups?
[01:34] <Astaroth_> it was already there
[01:34] <amir> How do I get my surround 5.1 to work?
[01:34] <DaveOst> if you install unbuntu for the first time, the folder where your personal data is stored is named "oem".  I renamed my folder without creating it. Now ubuntu tells me, that my folder is not exsisting.
[01:34] <Slart> dredhammer: mm.. I'm having problems with multi-language discs... but it's watchable.. most of the time
[01:34] <DaveOst> i never created a root account nikin
[01:35] <ikonia> Astaroth_: thats very strange
[01:35] <foomanchew> anyone running Halflife 2 on Ubuntu ?
[01:35] <logivision> I want to use some software called PC Anywhere on some linux machines. It says that it's only suports Red Hat, SuSe, as well as a couple other distributions. Is there a way to get it to work on Ubuntu ???
[01:35] <rukuartic> foomanchew: I wish I could :3
[01:35] <Astaroth_> ikonia: indeed
[01:35] <hyperb0lix> foomanchew: I wish, but Cedega can
[01:35] <jj1> kingace:i used to have ubuntu in that drive and i removed it , but ever thing was booting from a floppy including the old ubuntu i did not use
[01:35] <ikonia> logivision: depends if there is an ubuntu pacakge
[01:35] <maddash> bimberi: just curious, is there anyway for me to delete the module itself? would that prevent it from loading at all?
[01:35] <castoff> IndyTim you can but the find command will not like it
[01:35] <ikonia> maddash: don't delete the module
[01:35] <logivision> ikonia: If there isn't, am I S.O.L ?
[01:35] <kingace> jjl: does grub boot ubuntu?
[01:35] <ikonia> logivision: yes
[01:35] <foomanchew> hyperb0lix, what about wine ?
[01:35] <agent> DaveOst: you chose (by accident) to install oem version of ubuntu.... first rename your folder back to oem and then find the oem configuration program and configure it to your username, etc.
[01:35] <hyperb0lix> foomanchew: eh, not sure it could
[01:35] <logivision> ikonai: damn... wish they would just support _linux_ in general, and give you the option to build it./
[01:36] <bimberi> maddash: take ikonia's advice :)
[01:36] <jj1> kingace:grub dosent come up and i cant choose a OS
[01:36] <ikonia> why should they do that
[01:36] <hyperb0lix> foomanchew: if possible, you'd have to do a lot of configuring
[01:36] <IndyTim> I'm more concerned with bootup problems if I dup the uuid to another fstab entry?
[01:36] <sleepy009> how can i change the starting day of the week ?
[01:36] <dredhammer> ikonia i didnt get a message
[01:36] <kingace> jjl: ok, i actually know how to fix this
[01:36] <maddash> bimberi, ikonia: why?
[01:36] <svish> So, I have tried out 3ddesktop. kinda fun and useless :D any other fun and useless fancy impressive programs people here can recommend?
[01:36] <kingace> jjl: im gonna pm you cause i dont feel like trying to sort thrrough other covnersations
[01:36] <ikonia> the kernel won't know the object physically gone
[01:36] <DaveOst> okey, but how... i am not able to login
[01:36] <Astaroth_> ikonia: when i try "alsamixer" it responses: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[01:36] <ikonia> putting it simple
[01:36] <LameBMX> Astaroth_, try doing aplay /usr/share/sounds/shutdown.wav
[01:36] <LameBMX> does that play
[01:36] <nikin> agent: but how will he do that without the capability to log in? or did i misunderstood something?
[01:36] <DaveOst> agent: okey, but how... i am not able to login
[01:36] <mnoir> DaveOst: wo you have a lot of time used already?  maybe reinstall using desktop instead is a better way to fix
[01:36] <ikonia> Astaroth_: check /dev ofr the device
[01:37] <jj1> kingace:im on a live cd right now
[01:37] <mnoir> wo=do :)
[01:37] <ikonia> dredhammer: check the wiki for "restricted formats"
[01:37] <kingace> jjl: alright open up a terminal and type grub
[01:37] <dredhammer> ok
[01:37] <recon39> I have a file name mythtv in my temp folder what do i need to type in the termanal to install it
[01:37] <maddash> ikonia: so how do I tell it that it's "physically gone"?
[01:37] <agent> nikin: i did not read the loging problem
[01:37] <ikonia> you don't
[01:37] <ikonia> don't delete a module
[01:37] <Slart> svish: beryl would be one I guess... but that's some way to go.. just for the ooo and the aaahh s =)
[01:37] <Astaroth_> ikonia: should it be called "usb-audio" or something like that?
[01:37] <tyme-> ay shawty what it isssss
[01:37] <klees> any ATI card users?
[01:37] <ikonia> Astaroth_: is your audio card ausb device
[01:37] <tyme-> i use ATI cards
[01:37] <Astaroth_> yep
[01:37] <ikonia> pooh
[01:37] <sleepy009> kless yes
[01:38] <jj1> kingace:its doen
[01:38] <foomanchew> klees, yes
[01:38] <agent> DaveOst: if worse comes to worse, use your livecd to fix the problem: just load the livecd, mount the partition with your folder and rename it back to oem (or whatever it was)
[01:38] <maddash> ikonia: thanks for not answering me
[01:38] <tyme-> !ati
[01:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:38] <jj1> done*
[01:38] <bimberi> maddash: by recompiling the kernel with a config that says not to compile that module
[01:38] <rukuartic> recon39: Thats rather ambiguous... Are you looking to install mythtv?
[01:38] <ikonia> maddash: I did
[01:38] <DaveOst> mnoir:  i reinstalled unbutu twice today (because i tried to install an ati card driver, that doesent work(
[01:38] <Astaroth_> i told you that before :p
[01:38] <klees> any 9800 users??
[01:38] <ikonia> did you miss it
[01:38] <kingace> jjl: what are you seeing now
[01:38] <ikonia> Astaroth_: sorry - I missed that earlier
[01:38] <jj1> grub >
[01:38] <sleepy009> 9600 pro
[01:38] <mnoir> DaveOst: oic :(
[01:38] <ikonia> maddash: don't delete the module
[01:38] <ikonia> maddash: did you see that
[01:38] <ikonia> ?
[01:39] <recon39> yes i am looking to install mythtv just can't get in to install
[01:39] <jj1> kingace:Minimal bash-like line is supported ..............
[01:39] <klees> ATI users:  did ur GL screensavers lose acceleration after the latest patches??
[01:39] <maddash> ikonia: sarcasm
[01:39] <kingace> jj1: ok cool. type "root (hd0,1)" replacing hd?,? with the proper numbers for you
[01:39] <rukuartic> recon39: You should be able to install it through apt-get... One moment please.
[01:39] <ikonia> maddash: errr why ?
[01:39] <Astaroth_> ikonia: i was doing what the usb-audio manual at www.alsa-project.org says
[01:39] <klees> *latest Ubuntu patches
[01:39] <sleepy009> no
[01:39] <kingace> jj1: then press enter
[01:39] <castoff> DaveOst couldn't you just copy the old X config back to fix?
[01:39] <ikonia> Astaroth_: I hate usb audio devices, don't know much about it
[01:39] <recon39> ok
[01:39] <maddash> bimberi: I thought the kernel modules were swap-out/in-able. after all, if I have to recompile the kernel, then how do modprobe -r  and rmmod work?
[01:39] <ikonia> Astaroth_: they are a real pain
[01:39] <klees> are you using the 8.32.5 drivers??
[01:39] <Astaroth_> ikonia: its my first one, my internal device just doesnt work at all
[01:40] <rukuartic> recon39: Try typing "sudo apt-get install mythtv" in the terminal (if you can't get one open, Alt+F2 and type in "gnome-terminal")
[01:40] <ikonia> maddash: have you recompiled the kernel
[01:40] <ikonia> ?
[01:40] <sleepy009> klees, wait
[01:40] <DaveOst> agent: hm, so there is no "easy" solution for this... ... i think no other chance for me than to reinstall
[01:40] <jj1> kingace:i only have one drive as master im asuming its hdb1?
[01:40] <recon39> ok thanks
[01:40] <DaveOst> :)
[01:40] <rukuartic> recon39: No problem. Let me know how it goes!
[01:40] <cafuego_> jj1: hdb is NEVER a master
[01:40] <kingace> jj1: no actually its just hd0
[01:40] <ikonia> maddash: kernel modules can be loaded/unloaded but not swapped between kernels
[01:40] <jj1> hda?
[01:40] <sleepy009> kless, 8.28.8
[01:40] <ikonia> does that make better sense ?
[01:40] <sleepy009> from ubuntu servers
[01:40] <jj1> kingace:ok i see
[01:40] <kingace> jj1: you do hd and then a number referring to which drive it is
[01:41] <agent> DaveOst: that depends on what you think is "easy".... for me fixing your problem would be considered very easy and only take about 1-3 minutes :)
[01:41] <kingace> jj1: like the order
[01:41] <jakob> are there no java plugins for mozilla on ubuntu x64?
[01:41] <kingace> jj1: and then comma, ubuntu partition
[01:41] <cafuego_> jakob: Nope. Run ia32 if you need that.
[01:41] <jakob> cafuego_ how do I do that?
[01:41] <maddash> ikonia: that wasn't my question
[01:41] <cafuego_> jakob: reinstall using 32bit.
[01:41] <ikonia> sorry - what was your question
[01:41] <jj1> Error 22: No such partition
[01:41] <agent> !java | jakob
[01:41] <ubotu> jakob: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:41] <ikonia> I must have missunderstood what your asking
[01:41] <sleepy009> jakob, 32 bit
[01:42] <kingace> jj1: alright try setup (hd0,0)
[01:42] <agent> jakob: that pages has instructions on java amd64
[01:42] <maddash> ikonia: I'm asking why modprobe-r and rmmod worked while on the other hand I couldn't disable (as opposed to blacklist) the loading of certain modules.
[01:42] <ctothej> need some help getting ubuntu to recognize my creative live usb as a sound device. any help?
[01:42] <DaveOst> agent: yes, but i am a long-time windows user, and today seen linux for the first time, then english is not my motherlanguage, and i dont know how to work with linux... ...i think its better for us two, if i reinstall the whole system ^^
[01:42] <ikonia> maddash: you disable module loading by blacklisting
[01:43] <ikonia> you can't "disable" a module
[01:43] <Mamasan> I installed Ubuntu and now after booting my usb keyboard and mouse are dead.  any idea of where I can start?
[01:43] <kingace> i have a hard drive that no matter how many times i format i cannot partition
[01:43] <Astaroth_> DaveOst: just the word "motherlanguage" tells me you're german :p
[01:43] <kingace> it says error creating disk label in gparted
[01:43] <DaveOst> rofl, yes
[01:43] <jj1> kingace: root (hd0) worked
[01:43] <agent> DaveOst: maybe it is better.... i did not say it was not :) what is your mother language?
[01:43] <n2diy> DaveOst: what is your native language?
[01:43] <ikonia> maddash: is that a better response
[01:43] <DaveOst> german
[01:43] <Astaroth_> its mothertongue or native language ;)
[01:43] <ikonia> make more sense
[01:43] <kingace> jj1: what did it say
[01:43] <jj1> nothing
[01:43] <DaveOst> wooof
[01:44] <kingace> jj1: then i dont think it worked
[01:44] <cmt^^> away
[01:44] <DaveOst> i remember from school /./
[01:44] <n2diy> ! german | DaveOst
[01:44] <kingace> jj1: its worth a shot though
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about german - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <agent> DaveOst: you know there is a ubuntu german channel
[01:44] <agent> !german | DaveOst
[01:44] <jj1> kingace:grub> root (hd0)
[01:44] <jj1> grub>
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about german - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <agent> err
[01:44] <kingace> jj1: now type setup (hd0)
[01:44] <nikin> !gr
[01:44] <Astaroth_> DaveOst: try http://www.ubuntuusers.de
[01:44] <mnoir> !de
[01:44] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[01:44] <DaveOst> that would be helpful
[01:44] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:44] <jakob> agent, I have java installed, I just need a plugin for mozilla
[01:44] <n2diy> ! German | DaveOst
[01:44] <svish> Slart: what is beryl?
[01:44] <Astaroth_> or #ubuntu-de
[01:44] <agent> !de | DaveOst
[01:44] <kingace> jj1: no promises though
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about German - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <ubotu> DaveOst: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:45] <LameBMX> Astaroth_,  cat /usr/share/sounds/warning.wav > /dev/dsp
[01:45] <DaveOst> thanx
[01:45] <castoff> if you don't want a module to load add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:45] <agent> DaveOst: ^^ auf deutsch
[01:45] <agent> :)
[01:45] <Slart> svish: it's a fancy desktop window manager thingy.. with woobly windows, desktops zooming in and out etc etc.. the chicks love it ;)
[01:45] <ikonia> maddash: does that make it clearer ?
[01:45] <maddash> ikonia: blacklisting makes the kernel do double the work - it'd find the module and load it, then unload it after reading "blacklist"
[01:45] <cschees> Has anyone had any luck installing Open office 2.1 on Edgy?
[01:45] <Slart> !beryl | svish
[01:45] <ubotu> svish: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:45] <AWOSDev> I want to buy a wireless network card that works on Dapper
[01:45] <Styles> is anyone here good at regexp i'd like a regexp that changes for example "hi" to "hello" in all files in all subdirectories
[01:45] <ikonia> no it doesn't load then unload it
[01:45] <ikonia> and its not really "work"
[01:45] <ikonia> as at that point nothing is really running
[01:45] <AWOSDev> Will the MSI MP54G5 work?  I know the G4 is compatibile, are they close enough?
[01:46] <pianoboy3333> How do I change what LAN network I'm on?
[01:46] <Astaroth_> LameBMX: cool that works, but not with /dev/dsp ; its /dev/dsp1
[01:46] <svish> Slart: oo... thats a good thing ;) lol. is it installed with synaptic like 3ddesktop? or is it some weird hard difficult way?
[01:46] <Astaroth_> LameBMX: btw.. how can i stop that? :D
[01:46] <jj1> kingace:Remember im trying to get into winows not linux, i have linux on other drive not connect to the computer
[01:46] <n2diy> ! hardware
[01:46] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:46] <Astaroth_> ah, did already
[01:46] <hyperb0lix> AWOSDev: ndiswrapper?
[01:46] <ikonia> maddash: is blacklisting a problem for you ?
[01:46] <kingace> jj1: yeah but you can still use grub to boot
[01:46] <mnoir> pianoboy3333: what do you mean?
[01:46] <LameBMX> Astaroth_, ctrl-c or it should stop on its own ...
[01:46] <AWOSDev> hyperb0lix don't even say that WORD around me
[01:46] <jj1> kingace:ok
[01:46] <hyperb0lix> AWOSDev: :P
[01:46] <n2diy> ! hardware | AWOSDev
[01:46] <ubotu> AWOSDev: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:46] <AWOSDev> hyperb0lix don't even think it  it is EVIL.
[01:47] <jj1> kingace:setup (hd00 you sed ?
[01:47] <Astaroth_> LameBMX: so my problem is that there's no /dev/dsp, just a /dev/dsp1
[01:47] <kingace> jj1: it might be easier to load up your windows cd and use recovery mode and type fixboot
[01:47] <LameBMX> Astaroth_,  well that should say your driver is working .. but im pretty sure things send the info to /dev/dsp1
[01:47] <AWOSDev> n2diy -- yes I have the Wiki up right now.  the G2 and G4 are listed but not the G5
[01:47] <pianoboy3333> mnoir: ummm... like Places -> Network Servers, how do I join another, instead of the one I'm on
[01:47] <maddash> ikonia: yep. I'm a super slow computer and even the server install has proven to be too slow to boot.
[01:47] <hyperb0lix> AWOSDev: I haven't really worked with it - any warnings would be appreciated :P
[01:47] <LameBMX> Astaroth_, do you have onboard sound?
[01:47] <kingace> jj1: ok, you definitely need something in root (hd0,?)
[01:47] <kingace> sooo
[01:47] <ikonia> that should only be a few seconds at worst
[01:47] <Astaroth_> LameBMX: nope, external usb card
[01:47] <ikonia> even on a slow computer
[01:47] <jj1> kingace:i feard youd say that
[01:47] <AWOSDev> hyperb0lix well for my card it connected but didn't work and it took down the Ethernet requiring me to reboot my computer
[01:47] <n2diy> AWOSDev: then the G5 would be a gamble.
[01:47] <Slart> svish: haven't installed it myself.. but I hear lots of questions about it.. do a google.. look at the page ubotu gave you. There's tons of tutorials about it
[01:47] <kingace> just try 0, then 1, then 2
[01:47] <ikonia> and if the computer is THAT slow that just booting is a problem then to be honest, nothing you can do will change that
[01:47] <kingace> until one works
[01:47] <LameBMX> Astaroth_, hmmm thats a good ? does dsp exist?
[01:47] <kingace> or
[01:47] <ikonia> if you see what I mean
[01:48] <kingace> try typing root (hd0, and then hitting tab
[01:48] <AWOSDev> jj1: trying to install GRUB?
[01:48] <kingace> sometimes it gives you advice
[01:48] <ikonia> if loading a module takes that long - then you've got no chance of doing anything with it
[01:48] <kingace> yes he is
[01:48] <zan_d> i'm trying to install ubuntu from a unix/linux system
[01:48] <AWOSDev> jj1: or repair?
[01:48] <Astaroth_> LameBMX: yeah its not bad, terratec aureon 5.1 usb mkii.. but there's no /dev/dsp
[01:48] <zan_d> and it asks me to use ar -xf
[01:48] <zan_d> but ar was not found
[01:48] <zan_d> this is kubuntu breezy
[01:48] <AWOSDev> is it already installed and you just are upgrading/repairing it, jj1?
[01:48] <jj1> AWOSDev:i would say install
[01:48] <LameBMX> i dont see what it would just goto 1 ... and all i was curious was if you driver was working or however that goes ..
[01:48] <AWOSDev> jj1 if you have Linux installed and have a /boot folder
[01:48] <jj1> AWOSDev:it used to be on a floppy drive
[01:48] <LameBMX> Astaroth_, http://linuxgazette.net/109/john.html thats info about how sound works
[01:48] <AWOSDev> jj1 oh okay
[01:48] <Astaroth_> thx
[01:49] <AWOSDev> jj1 you can install it to the MBR by just using (hd0)
[01:49] <jj1> AWOSDev:there a twist in the story
[01:49] <AWOSDev> uhoh
[01:49] <jj1> AWOSDev:i feel i should tell you all of it
[01:49] <AWOSDev> Oh-kay.
[01:49] <maddash> ikonia: oh-kay.
[01:49] <ikonia> maddash: see what I'm saying
[01:49] <LameBMX> from what i rmember driver takes dev/dsp and put it to hardware .. and alsa just pipes the info into dev/dsp ...
[01:49] <ikonia> insmod is super light
[01:49] <ctothej> can someone help me with getting ubuntu to load my creative usb device as a sound card?
[01:49] <LameBMX> but thats well beyone my level for how to switch those around lol
[01:49] <ikonia> and if thats taking ages, that machine is pretty unusable (trying to make it clearer)
[01:49] <AWOSDev> jj1 go ahead and tell me
[01:50] <Astaroth_> LameBMX: so can i just rename dsp1 to dsp?
[01:50] <LameBMX> i dk
[01:50] <Astaroth_> i cant.
[01:50] <nikin> Astaroth: creating a symlink is a better way
[01:50] <ikonia> Astaroth_: check your udev rules
[01:50] <pianoboy3333> How do I change what LAN network I'm on?
[01:50] <ikonia> add a rule in udev
[01:50] <AWOSDev> Astaroth_ if you don't already have a /dev/dsp you can create a softlink
[01:50] <Slart> ctothej: I don't have a usb soundcard myself but have you tried googling for the soundcard model name and ubuntu to see if there are tutorials out there?
[01:50] <LameBMX> Astaroth_,  u can try .. but its a dev folder so all that should be auto created .. even if it works it prolly wont survive a reboot or logout
[01:50] <AWOSDev> Astaroth_ type      sudo ln -s /dev/dsp1 /dev/dsp
[01:50] <Mamasan> Can someone help me?  After I boot to ubuntu, my mouse and keyboard go dead....anyone know where I can start to see what's going wrong?
[01:50] <LameBMX> and yea symlink sounds better .. less nasty
[01:50] <Astaroth_> ln -s /dev/dsp1 /dev/dsp?
[01:51] <ikonia> AWOSDev: better to do a udev rule
[01:51] <LameBMX> Astaroth_, that makes a simlink
[01:51] <ikonia> so it doesn't need to be done every time
[01:51] <Astaroth_> so whats a soft link?
[01:51] <AWOSDev> ikonia ah okay
[01:51] <AWOSDev> ikonia he could just put it in the startup script
[01:51] <LameBMX> it links two things ..
[01:51] <mnoir> pianoboy3333: places -> network servers are places you can connect to by clicking them - not really the place to define your own identity or membership in them - what are you interested in actually doing?
[01:51] <Slart> Mamasan: dmesg | grep keyboard perhaps?.. that is.. if you can type
[01:51] <ikonia> dsp is his onboard sound card, thats why his usb one is dsp1
[01:51] <AWOSDev> ahhhhh
[01:51] <crimsun> Astaroth_: lsmod |grep ^snd_pcm_oss
[01:51] <nikin> ikonia: why is an udev rule better? just asking...
[01:51] <pianoboy3333> mnoir: How do I change what Windows Server I'm on then, that's what it is
[01:51] <n2diy> Mamasan: did you try unplugging them, and then plugging them back in?
[01:51] <kingace> gparted giving me "Error while setting new disklabel" --> why??
[01:51] <Mamasan> Slart: Can't type.  Keyboard is dead after I boot
[01:51] <ctothej> Slart, yes, ive been searching the web and found only solutions where the usb device is already recognized. one option I have not exhausted is to rebuild alsa with the usb driver module into the kernel.
[01:51] <Mamasan> N2diy: Tried that, no luck
[01:52] <LameBMX> you can make a simlink point to a folder .. and its contents will appear there ... to summerize it its the FM principal .. or fuzzy logic
[01:52] <Astaroth_> crimsun: tobi@ubuntu:/dev$ lsmod | grep ^snd_pcm_oss
[01:52] <Astaroth_> snd_pcm_oss            47232  0
[01:52] <mnoir> pianoboy3333: that should be your samba definitions
[01:52] <Slart> Mamasan: can you type in BIOS settings?
[01:52] <mnoir> !samba | pianoboy3333
[01:52] <ubotu> pianoboy3333: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:52] <ikonia> because udev is what controls the devices, and assigns the correct permissions and will change dynamiclly. On reboot the /dev file system is destroyed so he'll have to re-create the link, if he creates a udev rule, udev will create the device on bootup
[01:52] <pianoboy3333> mnoir: where can I edit those/is there a gui?
[01:52] <fingerz> Hello All
[01:52] <jj1> AWOSDev:i had ubuntu install in this hard drive (master) with winodws ,ubuntu was installed last and i set it to boot from (fd0) and every thing worked great i could even get to winodows.When i was in winodws i decided to remove ubuntu so i deleted the partion (it was not an NTFS one) When i tryed to log on to windows the fd0 grub would not louad and i didnt get the choise to choose OS like it would normally do.
[01:52] <crimsun> Astaroth_: asoundconf list
[01:52] <Mamasan> Slart: Yes, Both the mouse and keyboard have power until ubuntu starts to boot
[01:52] <Slart> ctothej: ok, then I won't be of much help, ubuntu has always found all my usb-thingies... sorry
[01:52] <Astaroth_> Names of available sound cards:
[01:52] <Astaroth_> Audio
[01:52] <mnoir> !samba | pianoboy3333
[01:52] <ubotu> pianoboy3333: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:52] <Astaroth_> so wtf
[01:52] <Nvening> hi
[01:53] <LameBMX> Astaroth_, read ikonia stuff there about udev rule .. sounds like a better hack
[01:53] <nikin> ikonia: ty for the info :D now i understand
[01:53] <Nvening> erm not good
[01:53] <fingerz> I cannot get my ATI All In Wonder 9600 running....can someone help????
[01:53] <Slart> Mamasan: other usb-things work?
[01:53] <pianoboy3333> mnoir: you can say taht as much as you want, but that's not answering my question...
[01:53] <Astaroth_> LameBMX: i dunno much about udev
[01:53] <pianoboy3333> *that
[01:53] <ctothej> Slart, know how I can blacklist a module from loading?
[01:53] <Mamasan> Slart: I have no other usb devices plugged in
[01:53] <crimsun> Astaroth_: now is Audio your usb or your onboard?
[01:53] <sleepy009> jj1, how many partitions do you have
[01:53] <Nvening> i just got this: fsck died with exit status 8
[01:53] <AWOSDev> jj1 so you deleted Ubuntu -- why not just put the Windows boot loader back on?
[01:53] <ikonia> Nvening: file system messed up
[01:53] <crimsun> Astaroth_: (easiest way to tell: cat /proc/asound/modules )
[01:53] <Nvening> indeed
[01:54] <LameBMX> jj1, put in your windows cd ..l select advanced recovery .. type in fixmbr at the command line .. reboot
[01:54] <jj1> many, and they are not named, im on a ubuntu live cd right now
[01:54] <Nvening> is it fixable?
[01:54] <castoff> Slart: if you don't want a module to load add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:54] <Slart> ctothej: add the module name in the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist I think there has to be a blacklist before the name too "blacklist mymodulename"
[01:54] <ikonia> use fsck - see
[01:54] <tyme-> !xgl
[01:54] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:54] <tyme-> !beryl
[01:54] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:54] <maddash> !modules
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modules - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <Astaroth_> crimsun:  1 snd_usb_audio
[01:54] <Nvening> windows ran a fdisk when i started it up
[01:54] <zan_d> anyone familiar with video settings?
[01:54] <sleepy009> put in your windows cd ..l select advanced recovery .. type in fixmbr at the command line .. reboot
[01:54] <ikonia> windows never runs fdisk on startup
[01:54] <ikonia> or do you mean chkdisk
[01:54] <zan_d> i installed an install of ubuntu on a desktop machine, then moved the HD over to my laptop
[01:54] <Nvening> ye sos
[01:54] <ikonia> maddash: still not clear on the modules ?
[01:54] <crimsun> Astaroth_: at any time this boot, have you unplugged the usb device without first unloading snd-usb-audio?
[01:54] <zan_d> but the video settings are messed up, so even the CLI scrolls too far
[01:54] <ikonia> Nvening: chkdisk shouldn't effect linux partition
[01:55] <ikonia> it can only run on windows partitions
[01:55] <Slart> Mamasan: hmm.. I'd look for usb trouble first..but I'm not sure how to troubleshoot without a keyboard..
[01:55] <jj1> LameBMX:yeh i think its best i do that , thou i read it can mass up the partions
[01:55] <ikonia> so thats not a reason
[01:55] <Nvening> yep, but shows something is messed up mabe?
[01:55] <LameBMX> well it will for the nix ones
[01:55] <Astaroth_> crimsun: as far as i know i haven't ever unplugged this thing
[01:55] <ikonia> Nvening: not really
[01:55] <Mamasan> Slart: ok, thanks
[01:55] <maddash> ikonia: what does /proc/modules do?
[01:55] <ikonia> chkdisk normally runs when you've not powred down he machien cleanly
[01:55] <Nvening> i see
[01:55] <crimsun> Astaroth_: ok, well, nothing's wrong; it's all functioning appropriately.
[01:55] <ikonia> maddash: logs which modules are loaded
[01:55] <LameBMX> but i dont know ...i just know the tool exists
[01:55] <Rio> what directory does applications typically get installed in? i just installed a program expecting the shortcut to the executable to appear in the applications drop down menu.....
[01:56] <Nvening> ye, i was ina  rush, and stressed, long story, wont happen again
[01:56] <sleepy009> jj1, you can install windows on parttiton on who you dont have windows
[01:56] <sleepy009> and it will fix
[01:56] <ikonia> maddash: and the memory address they are used
[01:56] <crimsun> Astaroth_: you have an index 1, so the corresponding oss emulation device is /dev/dsp1
[01:56] <n2diy> zan_d: if you can run xorg.conf, you have a chance at getting things working.
[01:56] <Nvening> so what do i do to repoair ubuntu?
[01:56] <AWOSDev> ikonia actually if the MBR's end sector count is messed up it COULD overwrite Ubuntu -- but the odds of that are 1000000 to 1
[01:56] <Astaroth_> crimsun: i just plugged in my sound system, with aplay bla > /dev/dsp i just get noise, not the sound i want
[01:56] <ikonia> AWOSDev: smarty !
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> Rio: They're split up.  Trying running the name of the program as a command in the terminal.
[01:56] <ikonia> Nvening: use fsck
[01:56] <crimsun> Astaroth_: if you -only- want to use that device, you need to remove a line from /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[01:56] <AWOSDev> ikonia, I've written hard disk drivers.  My brain is programmed to think that way :D
[01:56] <maddash> ikonia: ok, so /etc/modules does the exact opposite with /etc/modprobe.r/blacklist, right?
[01:56] <sleepy009> jj1, i use that always
[01:56] <AWOSDev> maddash yes
[01:56] <nn531> anyone good with aireplay?
[01:57] <Nvening> wiki link please ;)
[01:57] <ikonia> maddash: pretty much
[01:57] <Nvening> lol
[01:57] <Astaroth_> crimsun: with only you mean disabling the onboard sound?
[01:57] <ikonia> Nvening: just man fsck
[01:57] <fingerz> I hate ATI!
[01:57] <Nvening> ill find it myself
[01:57] <ikonia> its just one command needed
[01:57] <Nvening> what>
[01:57] <AWOSDev> bye all!
[01:57] <jj1>  sleepy009:sorry i missed that ?
[01:57] <ikonia> Nvening: fsck
[01:57] <maddash> ikonia: /etc/modules doesn't list the other modules that are in lsmod. is there another list that covers the rest of those modules?
[01:57] <Nvening> but how do i run it, ubuntu wont start
[01:57] <Rio> tonyyarusso ahh.. thanks... i guess it didnt appear there because there was something wrong with teh installation
[01:58] <jj1> so do i typr fixmbr ?
[01:58] <Nvening> u mean do it in recovery mode?
[01:58] <zan_d> where is xorg.conf?
[01:58] <crimsun> Astaroth_: I presume you didn't disable it, since your usb device is not index 0
[01:58] <svish> hmmmmm... Beryl looked reeeaaally interesting.. but a bit scary innstalling.. lol
[01:58] <tonyyarusso> zan_d: /etc/X11/
[01:58] <ikonia> maddash: simpley summery - the kernel boots, udev gets event triggers for devices, the kernel loads modules for drivers it knows about. the modules.conf is used to pass options/mappings for certain modules
[01:58] <Slart> zan_d: in /etc/X11/  .. capital X
[01:58] <jj1> zan_d:/etc/x11/.org/
[01:58] <ikonia> so modules.conf doesn't do all modules, just forces certain configurations of certain modules
[01:58] <ikonia> udev deals with the modules
[01:58] <sleepy009> jj1, if you are afraid of fixmrb the is a safer way
[01:58] <ikonia> see what I mean
[01:59] <zan_d> there's no .org directory in there
[01:59] <crimsun> Astaroth_: on the other hand, if you want your usb audio device's oss emulation device to be /dev/dsp, you need to remove one line from /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, as I mentioned above, then unload and reload the alsa drivers
[01:59] <Slart> svish: but it's really cool when it works.. don't know if you can ever do anything serious with the computer with that running.. but it's cool
[01:59] <jj1> sleepy009:whts that ?
[01:59] <mnoir> zan_d: /etc/X11
[01:59] <Astaroth_> crimsun: i'll try to do the stuff at the usb-audio manual from alsa now again
[01:59] <Nvening> do i do it in recovery mode the ikona?
[01:59] <ikonia> Nvening: good call
[01:59] <Nvening> *ikonia
[01:59] <crimsun> Astaroth_: it's much easier
[01:59] <zan_d> mnoir, i'm there, but no xorg.conf
[01:59] <svish> Slart: is it easy to deactivate/activate?
[01:59] <Nvening> ok, ill try
[01:59] <nikin> Slart: dont think so much the Vista way.... okok i know Vista isnt even cool
[01:59] <Nvening> thanks!!!
[01:59] <jj1> sleepy009:i was about to install ubunt agian just so it can fix my grub problem
[01:59] <ikonia> ok
[01:59] <crimsun> Astaroth_: I'll walk you through it, but first you need to tell me if you only want to use the usb audio device.
[01:59] <svish> Slart: I mean, when its already installed
[01:59] <mnoir> zan_d: stolen??
[01:59] <sleepy009> jj1, install windows on some partition
[01:59] <Plecebo> how can i figure out why my dvd drive is not mounting when i put in a disc? I can play some movies through mplayer, and some wont work, i've had no luck with totem
[01:59] <Slart> svish: I have no idea.. check the forums..
[01:59] <zan_d> stolen?
[01:59] <ikonia> maddash: was that a clear explaination ?
[01:59] <Astaroth_> crimsun: yes.
[01:59] <zan_d> hah
[01:59] <zan_d> breezy
[02:00] <Slart> nikin: huh?
[02:00] <mnoir> zan_d: what install - desktop?
[02:00] <jj1> sleepy009:winodws takes too long to install sleepy009:
[02:00] <crimsun> Astaroth_: open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base in an editor with root privileges
[02:00] <maddash> ikonia: yes
[02:00] <ikonia> super
[02:00] <zan_d> kubuntu
[02:00] <nimak> My friend can't get X to work on his iMac G5
[02:00] <ikonia> its a complex topic
[02:00] <zan_d> kde
[02:00] <Astaroth_> check
[02:00] <svish> Slart: have you installed it on ubuntu before? cant find any install instructions or files or anything..
[02:00] <ikonia> just wanted to be sure I'd got it across
[02:00] <mnoir> zan_d: w8 - in breezy is xfree
[02:00] <crimsun> Astaroth_: then remove the "options snd-usb-audio index=-2" line, save it, and close the file
[02:00] <ctothej> Can someone with a working snd-usb-audio device pastebin their /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base ?
[02:00] <nikin> Slart: just about having a system that looks cool, but isnt realy usefull
[02:00] <Slart> svish: never even tried.. but google for tutorials.. they are out there
[02:00] <sleepy009> jj1,  you want to get back the windows boot manager ?
[02:00] <mnoir> uuh - xfree86 i mean
[02:00] <Astaroth_> crimsun: yep
[02:01] <jj1> sleepy009:i just whant to be able to boot into windows
[02:01] <n2diy> mnoir: zan_d installed on a desktop, and moved the HD into a laptop.
[02:01] <zan_d> i just used grub to get into recovery mode
[02:01] <zan_d> and it works
[02:01] <crimsun> ctothej: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/406/
[02:01] <Slart> nikin: ah =)... well... perhaps beryl will be useful and cool once it's finished..
[02:01] <Astaroth_> crimsun: so i restarted alsa, now it works, lol
[02:01] <zan_d> but that seems dirty
[02:01] <mnoir> n2diy: that usually doesnt change the location of files :)
[02:01] <mangojambo_> how can I register my nick ?
[02:02] <crimsun> Astaroth_: yep.
[02:02] <Astaroth_> mangojambo_: /ns register email pw
[02:02] <Music_Shuffle> mangojambo_, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[02:02] <sleepy009> jj1, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation
[02:02] <ikonia> maddash: anything else you want to know ?
[02:02] <Music_Shuffle> Hah. Or that.
[02:02] <ikonia> on the topic
[02:02] <n2diy> mnoir: no it shouldn't, is xorg.conf mia?
[02:02] <ctothej> crimsun, thx
[02:02] <Astaroth_> mangojambo_: forget the email thing
[02:02] <nikin> Slart: lets hope so.... but i will never use eyecandy stuff :D i just dont like it...
[02:02] <tsoler> connect to a vpn?
[02:02] <Astaroth_> crimsun: so now i have a further question
[02:03] <mnoir> n2diy: i think he said he is running breezy?  i think that used xfree86, not xorg...
[02:03] <tsoler> anyone here knows how to connect to a vpn?
[02:03] <n2diy> mnoir: ok.
[02:03] <nikin> mangojamb: '/msg nickserv register PASSWORD'  if i remebre good
[02:03] <maddash> ikonia: with regards to modules - ubuntu takes the most time when "Calculating module dependencies" - any way to fix this?
[02:03] <ikonia> tsoler: use a vpn client
[02:03] <Peebo> Where are the region settings for Ubuntu, how do I get rid of the stupid Yank date format
[02:03] <Astaroth_> crimsun: i'm now using esd for sound output because i dont have hardware mixing
[02:03] <mnoir> zan_d: pastebin ls -l of /etc/X11
[02:03] <ctothej> Astaroth_, how did you restart alsa?
[02:03] <tsoler> ikonia:  like ?
[02:03] <ikonia> maddash: no - thats udev (I think udev) working out what modules are needed
[02:03] <ikonia> tsoler: no idea
[02:04] <Astaroth_> ctothej: sudo /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
[02:04] <sleepy009> Peebo, i alo want to know
[02:04] <maddash> ikonia: I'm loading all the same modules everytime, so is there some way to cache this?
[02:04] <ikonia> no
[02:04] <Slart> nikin: as long as it doesn't affect usability or drains power to much it's ok... otherwise we'd all be uninstalling gnome/KDE etc to just run a console.. =)
[02:04] <ikonia> the point of udev is is dynamic
[02:04] <Astaroth_> crimsun: when i use esd with amarok the sound is just a bit delayed and sometimes stops for a sec
[02:04] <n2diy> Peebo: right click on your clock and select prefrences?
[02:04] <ikonia> if you add /remove a device udev will react
[02:04] <crimsun> Astaroth_: don't use esd, use alsa directly.
[02:04] <ctothej> crimsun, Astaroth_, I get " /etc/init.d/alsasound: command not found" <-- is this a problem?
[02:05] <crimsun> Astaroth_: you'll need to create an asoundrc if you wish to dmix usb audio
[02:05] <Peebo> n2diy that does not change it
[02:05] <ikonia> I know what your saying - servers having dyamic /dev has been a hot topic scince udev was introduced
[02:05] <crimsun> ctothej: no, we don't ship that initscript
[02:05] <nikin> Slart: uninstalling X is not an option, but using Xfce or TWM or WM is one :D
[02:05] <ikonia> maddash: sorry - that was for you
[02:05] <Astaroth_> ctothej: just type "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa[press tab twice here] "
[02:05] <tarmath> hello, i want to install imagemagick on my ubuntu server for the coppermine photo gallery but it requires x11, is there a way to install imagemagick without x11?
[02:05] <Astaroth_> there should be something else afaik
[02:06] <ikonia> tarmath: no
[02:06] <Astaroth_> crimsun: so what do i have to type in there?
[02:06] <ubuntu1980> who knows what happened with gnome-file-types-properties in ubuntu?
[02:06] <maddash> ikonia: thanks.
[02:06] <vinboy_> should I use skype or skype-static?
[02:06] <crimsun> Astaroth_: type what where?
[02:06] <tyme-> anyone know why after installing ATI drivers it's still using Mesa ? Ubuntu Edgy
[02:06] <ikonia> maddash: am I on the right lines to what your asking
[02:06] <Astaroth_> crimsun: in that asoundrc
[02:06] <Slart> nikin: hehe.. indeed
[02:06] <svish> !AIGLX
[02:06] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
 <Music_Shuffle> , thank you ... by the way, if a register in freenode the works into Ubuntu server ?
[02:07] <Slart> tyme-: do you use the new drivers? have you edited xorg.conf?
[02:07] <Nvenin1> ikonia, it says its a mounted partition and it could cause serious damage?
[02:07] <Music_Shuffle> Yeah.
[02:07] <ctothej> Astaroth_, got it thanks
[02:07] <Music_Shuffle> :)
[02:07] <sleepy009> tyme-, did you try to change xorg.conf from ati fo fglrx
[02:07] <sleepy009> ?
[02:07] <tonyyarusso> tyme-: You could run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and tell it to use the new one.
[02:07] <ikonia> Nvenin1: yeah, never run it on mounted partitions
[02:07] <tyme-> sleepy: yes, i followed the !ati guide exactly
[02:07] <jrattner> .server irc.a0hell.org
[02:07] <ikonia> if its mounted though its fixed
[02:07] <tarmath> ikonia: ok thank you
[02:07] <Slart> tyme-: restarted the xserver?
[02:07] <Nvenin1> er? so what do i do
[02:07] <tyme-> Slart:  yea used aticonfig --initial to edit xorg.conf
[02:07] <Nvenin1> u mean it should be working now?
[02:07] <ikonia> if its mounted
[02:08] <tyme-> Slart:  yes. off course =)
[02:08] <jj1> how can i make it so that when i run "fdisk -l" so that i can see my hard drive ?
[02:08] <Nvenin1> ill try lol
[02:08] <jj1> im on live cd
[02:08] <nikin> my wine build is compleete :D hurray
[02:08] <tyme-> it was simple for Suse but i guess Debian has trouble
[02:08] <svish> !ati |svish
[02:08] <ubotu> svish: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:08] <sleepy009> time, resarted the x ?
[02:08] <Slart> tyme-: =) just checking... anything in the logs?
[02:08] <tyme-> of course sleepy009
[02:08] <tyme-> where would the logs be?
[02:08] <tyme-> /var/log
[02:08] <tyme-> sec
[02:08] <Slart> tyme-: there are system logs, kernel logs and X11 logs
[02:08] <ceacro> hello room
[02:08] <sleepy009> view the etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:09] <tyme-> sleepy009:  xorg.conf has fglrx enabled
[02:09] <Slart> tyme-: I'd start with the X11 logs.. might be called xorg something.. in /var/logs/
[02:09] <Peebo> Can anyone help the backward Yank date format is incredibly annoying.
[02:09] <ceacro> Is there anyone who has installed flashplayer into a 64 bit operating system ubuntu???
[02:10] <tyme-> sec reading the logs
[02:10] <ikonia> ceacro: its a real pain
[02:10] <Slart> ceacro: I think you can install 32-bit firefox and then install 32 bit flash on that
[02:10] <n2diy> Peebo: take a look at "man date"
[02:10] <Peebo> ceacro: I have but it don't work right
[02:10] <ikonia> Slart: its not that simple
[02:10] <aN1> ceacro
[02:10] <Slart> ikonia: who said it was simple =)
[02:10] <aN1> yeah there are several ways
[02:10] <ikonia> true
[02:10] <ikonia> you made it sound easy
[02:10] <ceacro> Can anyone help me to install it
[02:10] <ceacro> ?
[02:10] <svish> Is it as scary as it seems to install ati drivers?
[02:11] <ceacro> I read that there is a way using wine
[02:11] <bruenig> ceacro, look it up on the forum, there is a script that does it all for you, very easy
[02:11] <aN1> ceacro, u need the 32bit lib
[02:11] <ikonia> ceacro: check the wiki
[02:11] <jj1> what th emaster hard drive name ? hda?
[02:11] <ikonia> there is a good guide
[02:11] <aN1> ceacro u don't need to do dat
[02:11] <ikonia> bruenig: didn't know it was scripted
[02:11] <aN1> ceacro one sec
[02:11] <bruenig> nspluginwrapper
[02:11] <bruenig> that will do it too
[02:11] <sleepy009> tyme-, 	Driver      "fglrx"   , if you you ahve this it should work
[02:11] <bruenig> or so I am told
[02:11] <Slart> ikona, ceacro: ok. sorry.. I'll try again.... You don't want to do it, it'll kill your inner child and probably let your dog out.. but I've heard of a mysterious way to install firefox and flash as 32 bit instead of 64 bit.. but it's horrible horrible horrible... =)
[02:11] <ceacro> I like the way you help me
[02:12] <ikonia> ceacro: cool
[02:12] <aN1> ceacro, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191205
[02:12] <phasegen> how do I recover the mbr I'm going to lose in about 30 minutes???
[02:12] <svish> Should I install atidrivers from ati.com or from ubuntu repositories?
[02:12] <bruenig> phasegen, why are you going to lose it
[02:12] <ikonia> phasegen: dd it off
[02:12] <sleepy009> svish, ubuntu
[02:12] <tyme-> sleepy009:  Slart, and anyone else - my Xorg log - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/408/
[02:12] <jj1> sleepy009:would it help if i can get to my boot.ini file ?
[02:12] <svish> sleepy009: is it easy to reverse if I screw up? lol
[02:12] <mnoir> !mbr | phasegen
[02:12] <ubotu> phasegen: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:12] <aN1> ceacro, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537 follow dis u install 32bit firefox then flash then java
[02:12] <phasegen> my windows partition is messed up and I have to reinstall it
[02:13] <sleepy009> jj1, no
[02:13] <ceacro> So is better to install ubuntu 32 bits in a 64 bits processor??
[02:13] <tyme-> sleepy009:  Slart, and anyone else - my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/409/
[02:13] <jj1> sleepy009:im confussed
[02:13] <ikonia> ceacro: its easier
[02:13] <ceacro> noooooooooooo
[02:13] <ikonia> why noooooooooooo
[02:13] <ceacro> I screw up
[02:13] <aN1> ceacro, do u have 64bit already installed?
[02:13] <ceacro> yeah
[02:13] <aN1> ceacro yeah don't uninstall
[02:13] <jj1> sleepy009:i know my winodows is on the partition 1
[02:13] <aN1> just follow the link i gave u
[02:14] <ceacro> I think it runs faster in a 64 bits
[02:14] <jj1> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows
[02:14] <aN1> ceacro, i have 64bit installed and im running flash flawless ley
[02:14] <aN1> cearcro very true
[02:14] <ceacro> what is that?
[02:14] <Nvening> ikonia, it still wont work
[02:14] <vinboy_> how to make my console colorful?
[02:14] <Slart> tyme-: hmm.. I seem to remember sometihng about commenting the line about DRI... but that was a nvidia card
[02:15] <aN1> ceacro http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537
[02:15] <Nvening> it gets a third through the bar, then freezes
[02:15] <ikonia> Nvening: boot from the live cd
[02:15] <ikonia> bed time
[02:15] <tyme-> meh. :\
[02:15] <jj1> sleepy009:im going to boot in to winodws cd and type fixmbr
[02:15] <Nvening> then after a second the logo changes, still the logo but different colours
[02:15] <aN1> ikonia nite
[02:15] <Nvening> ye me too ikonia
[02:15] <tyme-> !dualboot
[02:15] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[02:15] <Nvening> ill sort it tomos
[02:15] <sleepy009> jj1, ok try
[02:15] <Asc> If you set up multiple monitors, how do they behave?  Everything I've seen in guides indicates that they act like a single, large desktop.  Are there other options?
[02:15] <aN1> u guys in europe?
[02:16] <tyme-> !dualboot | jjl
[02:16] <ubotu> jjl: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[02:16] <svish> how do I find my cpu architecture?
[02:16] <Slart> tyme-: try commenting out the line in xorg.conf  "Load DRI" and restart
[02:16] <Nvening> what cpu do u have?
[02:16] <aN1> svish, u name-r
[02:16] <tyme-> restart or log out of x?
[02:16] <aN1> uname-r
[02:16] <Nvening> its probablt x86 svish
[02:16] <shn_> isnt it uname -m?
[02:16] <Slart> tyme-: just restart X.. ctrl alt backspace
[02:17] <Nvening> i386
[02:17] <aN1> oh yeah
[02:17] <aN1> sorri
[02:17] <svish> its a mobile intel or something. so 386?
[02:17] <Slart> tyme-: or ctrl alt f1, sudo /etc/gdm restart
[02:17] <marcus_> hello. was wondering if i need smp for centrino duo or not to use both cores?
[02:17] <svish> uname -m returne i686
[02:17] <tyme-> k brb restarting
[02:17] <Slart> tyme-: oh.. if you try the ctrl alt f1 thingy.... to get back it's ctrl alt f7
[02:17] <shn_> svish: i think then its x86
[02:18] <aN1> marcus, smp = symetric multi processor
[02:18] <jj1> whats hd0 ?
[02:18] <svish> so when uname -m returns i686, what do I write for sudo apt-get install linux-$arch?
[02:18] <aN1> yeah so u need it plus it has HT built in
[02:18] <shn_> marcus_: i think yes
[02:18] <svish> sudo apt-get install linux-386 or 686?
[02:18] <shn_> hmm
[02:18] <mnoir> svish: 6.06 or 6.10 ?
[02:19] <svish> 6.06
[02:19] <mnoir> then 686
[02:19] <svish> alright, thanks
[02:19] <mnoir> in 6.10 that all goes away in favor of generic
[02:20] <Rio> how do you set it up so that firestarter starts on when the computer is booted?
[02:20] <aN1> svish
[02:20] <aN1> 386  the default kernel in Ubuntu is the 386 kernel (but I hear its really a 486 kernel). What that means is that its the most compatible kernel because it supports the oldest tech. Here is wiki page to learn more:
[02:20] <aN1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_80386
[02:20] <aN1> 686  The kernel that is recommended for use with any Intel Processors in a computer that are more recent then a Pentium Pro. So even old Pentium 2s and 3s can get in on the act. Installing this kernel with may improve performance.
[02:20] <svish> aN1 cool :)
[02:21] <Peebo> aN1: R U using 6.10 when you say you have Flash on x64 working
[02:21] <Music_Shuffle> !U
[02:21] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[02:21] <Thuggernaut> yo guys i need a bit of help selecting a new graphics card to prepare for fiesty
[02:21] <grigora> hi, I have a setup in my Gnome desktop environment so that when I press both Alt buttons together my keyboard layout changes, however when I write/test code I prefer to work in FVWM and am not sure how to change the keyboard layout there. Does anyone know of a command line way of changing the keyboard layout to various languages? many thanks!
[02:21] <Arigato> what is the terminal command to stop apache2?
[02:21] <bruenig> !info linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic
[02:21] <aN1> Peebo yes
[02:21] <ubotu> linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic: Linux kernel image for version 2.6.17 on x86/x86_64. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.1-10.34 (edgy), package size 22444 kB, installed size 65968 kB
[02:21] <aN1> Peebo,  i have flash and java
[02:21] <tyme-> meh
[02:21] <tyme-> still doesnt work
[02:21] <aN1> Peebo, plus real
[02:21] <aN1> Peebo but real player is choopy
[02:21] <mnoir> Arigato: /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[02:21] <Jbirk> Hello, I would like to use Firefox 2 for Ubuntu Dapper, how can I install it
[02:22] <marcus_> aN1: Does processor = core?
[02:22] <Jbirk> Basically, I need the spell check feature
[02:22] <Slart> tyme-: well.. it was worth a try... try finding another tutorial on the net.. see if you've missed something
[02:22] <grigora> Arigato: /etc/init.d/apache2 stop or wherever your apache is install (apache2 could also be apachectl)
[02:22] <Peebo> Hmm ok I'll read that page you pointed the other bloke to
[02:22] <bruenig> Jbirk, get the tar.gz from getfirefox.com, extract it into /opt or wherever else you want and then run the firefox script inside the extracted directory
[02:22] <Slart> !ati
[02:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:22] <aN1> marcus u can have more than 1 core in a processor
[02:22] <aN1> hence mutlicore processors
[02:22] <con-man> !ubotu
[02:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:22] <sleepy009> !localedef
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about localedef - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <sleepy009> !locale
[02:23] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[02:23] <marcus_> an1: Okay. I get it. Thanks.
[02:23] <Asc> Connection dropped; if anybody replied I'd appreciate a repeat.
[02:23] <Thuggernaut> hey guys, i need some advice on what graphics card to get, to upgrade for fiesty
[02:23] <sleepy009> nvidia not ati
[02:23] <Thuggernaut> it has to be AGP and my budget is 100 bucks
[02:23] <Slart> Thuggernaut: a big expensive one.. they usually work best =)
[02:23] <sleepy009> 6600 agp
[02:23] <nikin> what is a segmentation fault?
[02:23] <tyme-> !ati
[02:23] <n2diy> ! hardware | Thuggernaut
[02:23] <Slart> Thuggernaut: oh.. nevermind then =)
[02:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:23] <ubotu> Thuggernaut: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:23] <Jbirk> Geforce 6200 would be okay
[02:24] <Thuggernaut> hrm i dunno, that seems like a pretty weak one
[02:24] <svish> isnt it a bit scary that it needs to install the kernel drivers? shouldnt they be installed from before sort of??
[02:24] <sleepy009> 6600 is also under 100
[02:24] <mnoir> nikin: usually the result of a buggy pgm or a massive mis-configuration
[02:24] <Jbirk> AGP is expensive
[02:24] <Thuggernaut> you think that is enough for the new compositing window managers?
[02:24] <nikin> mnoir: ok ty
[02:24] <Jbirk> Tom's Hardware had an article on it
[02:24] <mnoir> nikin: in other words - it broke
[02:24] <Music_Shuffle> Thuggernaut, 6600?
[02:25] <Jbirk> http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/26/the_best_gaming_video_cards_for_the_money/
[02:25] <Jbirk> I recomend reading that article
[02:25] <Thuggernaut> aight thanks, i'll check it out
[02:25] <grigora> anyone?
[02:25] <Jbirk> It lists cards based on their features and performance
[02:25] <fromvega> Hello
[02:25] <Peebo> Ok looks like          apt-get install mozilla-plugin-gnash               is going to work.
[02:25] <mnoir> brun
[02:25] <bruenig> !hi | fromvega
[02:25] <ubotu> fromvega: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:25] <mnoir> bruenig:
[02:25] <Peebo> I like 1 line fixes
[02:25] <mnoir> bruenig: ok - for you it means no workey no more until you fixee
[02:25] <bruenig> Peebo, gnash sucks
[02:26] <mnoir> :)
[02:26] <bruenig> Peebo, unless you like seeing flash banner ads, gnash serves no other purpose
[02:26] <Jbirk> Geforce 6600 looks like your best bet
[02:26] <aN1> Peebo do u need flash for 64bit?
[02:26] <fromvega> I have installed an application with apt-get, and it installed some libraries and other dependencies. Now I want to remove the application with all the installed libraries but I do not remember all the libraries installed. How can I do that?
[02:26] <bruenig> fromvega, are you on edgy or dapper?
[02:26] <fromvega> bruenig, 6.10
[02:27] <bruenig> fromvega, sudo apt-get remove whatever && sudo apt-get autoremove
[02:27] <Slart> fromvega: use synaptic.. uninstall the application.. apt/synaptic will remove the things you dont need
[02:27] <Thuggernaut> ok thanks for the advice guys
[02:27] <Spaghetti_Knife> I downloaded a .mov file, and mplayer says that I don't have the necessary decoder. Where do I find it?
[02:27] <Slart> fromvega: or apt-get.. whatever you prefer
[02:27] <bruenig> fromvega, fill whatever with the package that you originally installed the autoremove will knock out the dependencies
[02:27] <Jbirk> I read this right here
[02:27] <fromvega> bruenig, nice
[02:27] <Jbirk> http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/26/the_best_gaming_video_cards_for_the_money/page5.html#best_agp_card_for_under_100
[02:27] <fromvega> Slart, tks
[02:28] <Jbirk> They have not really released any more new AGP cards to push the technological edge
[02:28] <Jbirk> Besides you are looking for under $100
[02:28] <Jbirk> Leave it to Tom's Hardware :-)
[02:28] <Spaghetti_Knife> Where do I get the .mov decoder?
[02:28] <Slart> fromvega: oh..and check the purge-option.. for removing config files etc aswell
[02:28] <Jbirk> There is also the Radeon, but I suggest Nvidia if you want to use Linux.  It just seems like less hastles.
[02:28] <Thuggernaut> i can't upgrade to pci-e, i would have to replace everything
[02:28] <fromvega> Slart: I don't have synaptic installed, just apt-get and aptitude
[02:28] <Slart> fromvega: but be careful... I once uninstalled nearly my whole debian installation using that =)
[02:29] <bruenig> synaptic = yawn
[02:29] <Thuggernaut> this is a socket 754 rig
[02:29] <Slart> fromvega: purge is an option for apt-get
[02:29] <Spaghetti_Knife> How do i play quicktime movies on my computer?
[02:29] <fromvega> Slart: heheh how?
[02:29] <eitan> hey guys, wondering if this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/68540 has been solved yet for 6.10
[02:29] <bruenig> !quicktime | SpacePuppy
[02:29] <ubotu> SpacePuppy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:29] <bruenig> !quicktime | Spaghetti_Knife
[02:29] <ubotu> Spaghetti_Knife: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:29] <fromvega> Have someone of you ever installes ejabberd?
[02:30] <eitan> xtknight: i ended up installing 6.10
[02:30] <cjavier> fromvega: yes I do
[02:30] <Slart> fromvega: I did an apt-get remove logrotate or something like that.. and then it wanted to remove my mail mta (which needs logrotate).. and without a mta.. no debian system.. so it started removing stuff ..eating away =)
[02:30] <Thuggernaut> you guys think i could take a risk on a used card from ebay or some such place?
[02:30] <Slart> fromvega: now I use the simulate switch first =
[02:30] <bruenig> Slart, you should know not do rm -rf /
[02:30] <bruenig> not to do*
[02:30] <fromvega> cjavier: with success? I'm trying to install it but It's complaining about the hostname- /etc/init.d/ejabberd start
[02:30] <Slart> bruenig: well.. I've done that too.. but that time it was apt-get killing me
[02:30] <sleepy009> ThiefOfBaghdad, if you have 80 buck for 6600 why risk buy new
[02:31] <fromvega> cjavier: returns Starting jabber server: ejabberdhostname: Unknown host
[02:31] <Spaghetti_Knife> How do i play .mov files?
[02:31] <bruenig> Spaghetti_Knife, what is your deal
[02:31] <bruenig> Spaghetti_Knife, listen to ubotu
[02:31] <Thuggernaut> i need to get as cheap as possible though
[02:31] <Slart> rm -rf on a mounted drive when I really wanted to remove the mount point..*nggh*.. *sob*.. so many files.. the screams...
[02:31] <cjavier> fromvega: have you configured /etc/ejabberd/ejabberd.cfg
[02:31] <test333> @Spaghetti_Knife VLC will play pretty much anything you need
[02:32] <Spaghetti_Knife> test333 Thanks.
[02:32] <sleepy009> Spaghetti_Knife, or Mplayer
[02:32] <fromvega> cjavier: yes, I the hostname option I put the hostname of the machine (not a domain but a local hostname, configured in the hosts file)
[02:32] <bruenig> The only thing like that I have done is when I was trying to remove all the mp3's I did rm * .mp3, accidentally putting a space in between the * and .mp3 and it removed everything
[02:32] <svish> !ati
[02:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:32] <bruenig> but bittorrent solved that fast
[02:32] <Slart> bruenig: hehe.. all the classics =)
[02:32] <theflyingfool> When are they going to get openoffice up to version 2.1 with updates
[02:32] <Thuggernaut> btw one more question, does anyone get lock-ups with firefox 2.0.0.0?
[02:32] <agent> anyone know of a free temp file storage place that does not require registration ala imageshack but for bigger files?
[02:32] <Thuggernaut> i had to switch to mozilla to stop it from locking up
[02:33] <bruenig> it was kind enough to tell me that it couldn't find a file named .mp3
[02:33] <s0nix> hi
[02:33] <Thuggernaut> hey
[02:33] <bruenig> !hi | s0nix
[02:33] <ubotu> s0nix: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:33] <eitan> hey guys, wondering if this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/68540 has been solved yet for 6.10
[02:33] <Slart> Thuggernaut: sometimes.. when opening many new pages mostly.. then it freezes
[02:33] <bruenig> !repeat | eitan
[02:33] <ubotu> eitan: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:33] <s0nix> anyone use VMWare here?
[02:33] <fromvega> cjavier: I also have tryied "localhost" but no success
[02:33] <bruenig> !anyone | s0nix
[02:33] <Slart> bruenig: always so helpful =)
[02:33] <ubotu> s0nix: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:33] <Thuggernaut> Slart: ah okay that's what happened to me
[02:33] <Rackbreaker> join linuxeando
[02:33] <J_-> what do I need to get my logitech webcam working?
[02:33] <s0nix> im searching how fix the USB support (Device not recognized) for VMware Server 1.0.1 build-29996
[02:33] <Thuggernaut> the new 2.0.0.1 seems to be good so far
[02:34] <J_-> !webcam
[02:34] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:34] <s0nix> im running it under ubuntu for windows
[02:34] <Slart> Thuggernaut: I haven't found a solution.. but I enabled session saver.. so you kill it, restart and move on
[02:34] <cjavier> fromvega: that odd, althouhg I think thaterror have something to do with ejabberd node configuration
[02:34] <Slart> well.. I'm off to bed now.. good night
[02:34] <Thuggernaut> Slart: when mine locks up, the whole rig is unresponsive, i can't even get keystrokes
[02:34] <cjavier> which I never touch, is always localhost
[02:34] <mchao1> Hello guys, I have a problem with my wireless slowing down my boot up time i wonder if anyone can help
[02:34] <Thuggernaut> ah ok peace slart
[02:35] <fromvega> cjavier: very frustrating
[02:35] <svish> !fglrx
[02:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:35] <svish> !whatis fglrx
[02:35] <xtknight> eitan: ah, so tifm is detected now?
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whatis fglrx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <eitan> xtknight, yeah in 6.10 it works
[02:35] <bruenig> !fishing | svish
[02:35] <ubotu> svish: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:36] <xtknight> eitan: stock kernel or 2.6.19.1??
[02:36] <cjavier> fromvega: I'm thinking what you can check, but don't see anything usefull fro you, maybe you should purge ejabberd and start from pint cero
[02:36] <eitan> xtknight, dunno what kernel ver Im running right now.  What I hate about 6.10 is the touchpad driver is sketchy
[02:36] <eitan> xtknight, whatever came with 6.10
[02:36] <fromvega> cjavier: what's pint cero?
[02:36] <theflyingfool> does anyone know when they plan on putting openoffice 2.1 in the repos
[02:36] <Thuggernaut> no idea flyingfool
[02:36] <bruenig> theflyingfool, feisty
[02:36] <cjavier> sorry, point cero, I mean from start
[02:36] <bruenig> theflyingfool, openoffice is such a pain
[02:36] <balutix> how can i make a shortcut that opens an application in a particular workspace? e.g open xmms in workspace 3.
[02:36] <Thuggernaut> damn, that's a long time
[02:36] <svish> !compulsary
[02:36] <eitan> xtknight, i cant wait for 7.04, since I heard the touchpad problems will be solved (as it uses bash like Dapper)
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compulsary - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <bruenig> !fishing | svish
[02:37] <ubotu> svish: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:37] <theflyingfool> bruenig: what is better then openoffice
[02:37] <bruenig> !fishing > svish
[02:37] <eitan> xtknight, although if you could help me solve the bug, it is the one described here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/68540
[02:37] <bruenig> !ubotu, tell svish about fishing
[02:37] <bruenig> ubotu, tell svish about fishing
[02:37] <bruenig> !info abiword
[02:37] <ubotu> abiword: WYSIWYG word processor based on GTK2. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2458 kB, installed size 6876 kB
[02:37] <svish> um...sorry!
[02:37] <Thuggernaut> abiword is nice
[02:37] <bruenig> abiword is awesome
[02:38] <sleepy009> abiword is fast
[02:38] <xtknight> what does it mean when they say "regression from edgy"?
[02:38] <n2diy> Does Abiword play with Gnumeric?
[02:38] <Thuggernaut> how much benefit would i get if i upgrade from 512mb of memory to 1024mb?
[02:38] <fromvega> cjavier: I do not know this Erlang stuff, but when I type  "erl -name qqq" I get errors... do you know anything about it?
[02:38] <bruenig> when would they need to play
[02:39] <xtknight> eitan: no idea, i only have one laptop in this house and it has dapper installed
[02:39] <bruenig> xtknight, depends on who "they" is and what context it is in, I could see where someone would call edgy a backslide relative to dapper
[02:39] <n2diy> bruenig: create a chart in gnumeric, and then import it into abiword.
[02:39] <freshburn> hi all
[02:39] <Thuggernaut> yo
[02:39] <JulieJulie> Hi there all.
[02:39] <Thuggernaut> yo
[02:39] <cjavier> fromvega: sorry but no, my ejabberd installation has been all with out a glitch
[02:39] <bruenig> n2diy, I will have to admit, I have not yet created a chart
[02:39] <bruenig> !hi
[02:39] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:39] <freshburn> i have a default install of hoary that i just finished
[02:40] <bruenig> hoary, wow
[02:40] <Spaghetti_Knife> How do i activate dvd decoding? I read the wiki, and I typed what they wanted into the command line, but it didn't work.
[02:40] <bruenig> where does one even get hoary
[02:40] <Spaghetti_Knife> I even went through the directories and found install-css.sh, but I don't know what to do with it.
[02:40] <bruenig> !info libdvdcss
[02:40] <Flannel> freshburn: hoary is no longer supported, seeing you just installed, I'd recommend downloading something more recent (dapper, or edgy, if you'd prefer), and reinstalling.
[02:40] <sleepy009> wow
[02:40] <freshburn> x wont load the gui and i need to use the su command but the password isnt <blank> admin or ubuntu
[02:40] <gizmo_the_great1> When you try to install a dpkg package, and it halts due to dependancy problems, how to you solve it?
[02:40] <ubotu> Package libdvdcss does not exist in any distro I know
[02:40] <Thuggernaut> spaghetti knife try automatix
[02:40] <Spaghetti_Knife> Thuggernaut, automatix?
[02:40] <Thuggernaut> it can install the codecs you need
[02:40] <Flannel> freshburn: use sudo, not su.  Ubuntu disables the root account
[02:40] <bruenig> !automatix
[02:40] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:40] <freshburn> yeah im dl edgy now
[02:40] <nikin> Spaghetti: what program are you using?
[02:41] <Flannel> Thuggernaut: please don't recommend automatix.
[02:41] <xtknight> what about easyubuntu?  is it any better?
[02:41] <cjavier> fromvega: just 'sudo aptitude install ejabberd' and edit admin and hosts options  in /etc/ejabberd/ejabberd.cfg
[02:41] <freshburn> flannel: so there is no root user in ubuntu, (im very much a newbie to linux)
[02:41] <bruenig> !easyubuntu
[02:41] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[02:41] <Flannel> !sudo | freshburn, this will explain it better
[02:41] <ubotu> freshburn, this will explain it better: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:41] <balutix> Hey, anyone who could please tell me how i could make a shortcut/script whatever its called, to open an application in a certain workspace, E.G. open xmms in workspance 3
[02:41] <omavikes> hi guys.
[02:41] <sidny4> freshburn: no, there is no root user by default, you can however enable the root account if you want to
[02:41] <Thuggernaut> yo
[02:42] <xipietotec> is there something like tag2find for linux? Something that allows you to add tag attributes to files and folders and use that to find files?
[02:42] <fromvega> cjavier: I've done that
[02:42] <freshburn> doesnt sudo require a password also or is it set up to work only with the first user account created during install?
[02:42] <GuerrillaWon> Here's a softball question, if I want to run a program from my account as an administrator, what would I have to do?
[02:42] <gizmo_the_great1> freshburn: and you can login as root using 'su root'
[02:42] <theflyingfool> does anybody know why i dont have sound with youtube but i have video
[02:42] <GuerrillaWon> I'm not sure of the proper command line.
[02:42] <sleepy009> xipietotec, beagle search
[02:42] <whitehawk1966> Hello
[02:42] <Spaghetti_Knife> Okay, so how do I activate dvd encoding?
[02:42] <bruenig> gizmo_the_great1, no you can't not by default
[02:42] <Spaghetti_Knife> I read the wiki.
[02:42] <sidny4> freshburn: yes, sudo uses a password too.
[02:42] <xipietotec> theflyingfool: do you have restricted codecs installed?
[02:42] <bruenig> Spaghetti_Knife, encoding or decoding
[02:42] <JulieJulie> Im having trouble installing it.  It boots up and then it will go through the all that black screen and just stops.
[02:42] <LameBMX> kay .. what am i missing to get xp in vmware to axx a samba share .. im sure its something n00bish n dumb
[02:42] <Spaghetti_Knife> And I got to install-css.sh, but I don't know waht to do.
[02:43] <Spaghetti_Knife> bruenig: Decoding.
[02:43] <freshburn> and the password for sudo is?
[02:43] <theflyingfool> i think i have the restricted codecs but im not sure if i have the right ones
[02:43] <bruenig> Spaghetti_Knife, copy that install-css.sh line
[02:43] <gizmo_the_great1> bruenig: well I can and I cant remeber changing anything?
[02:43] <nikin> Spaghetti: encoding or decoding?
[02:43] <sidny4> freshburn: whatever the password for your account is
[02:43] <xipietotec> sleepy009: you can use beagle to add tag attributes to files?
[02:43] <JulieJulie> It says there is some type of error.  And just stays there.  I know that is very not specfic but I was hping someone understood it kind of?  Heh
[02:43] <freshburn> ah ty
[02:43] <burepe> !lamp
[02:43] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[02:43] <bruenig> Spaghetti_Knife, it should install something
[02:43] <bruenig> in fact it should install css
[02:43] <Darxus> I'm thinking about installing ubuntu on a friend's old computer, does it have a non-graphical install option?
[02:43] <bruenig> .sh
[02:43] <whitehawk1966> Apart from Gimp - how can I create cool graphixs?
[02:43] <Spaghetti_Knife> bruenig: How should it install something? It just names a file.
[02:43] <Thuggernaut> ya it does darxus
[02:44] <Thuggernaut> get the alternate install CD
[02:44] <theflyingfool> does anyone know which codecs are needed for youtube,
[02:44] <nikin> Darxus: with the Alternate CD yes
[02:44] <bruenig> Spaghetti_Knife, just copy and paste it, it runs a script which installs it
[02:44] <freshburn> so should i run the newest 6.10 or stick with 6.06 being a newbie, it will be connected to my home net with 2 xp pcs a modded xbox with gentoo on it and my tivo box
[02:44] <Darxus> Thuggernaut/nikin: thanks
[02:44] <Spaghetti_Knife> bruenig: I even tried just typing that line, and it didn't work.
[02:44] <bruenig> Spaghetti_Knife, put it in the terminal
[02:44] <Thuggernaut> np
[02:44] <sidny4> theflyingfool: Flash I believe
[02:44] <Flannel> Thuggernaut: flash
[02:44] <bruenig> Spaghetti_Knife, did you do the commands above that first?
[02:44] <Thuggernaut> ?
[02:44] <Flannel> theflyingfool, not Thuggernaut.
[02:44] <theflyingfool> i have flash im just not getting sound
[02:44] <xipietotec> theflyingfool: flash for one, but you'll also need the sound codecs
[02:44] <xipietotec> !seveas
[02:44] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:44] <jazzrocker> dang this channel goes way too fast
[02:44] <Peebo> aN1: Can you check out this website for me. The screen refresh is very bad on my Ubutu with the flash plugin I have.
[02:44] <theflyingfool> which sound codecs do i need
[02:44] <Spaghetti_Knife> bruenig: oh, it worked.
[02:44] <gnomefreak> theflyingfool: get flash9 that was fixed in 9
[02:44] <Toma-> What app would be best for extracting a small part of video out of a dvd?
[02:44] <xipietotec> theflyingfool: w32codecs
[02:44] <Spaghetti_Knife> bruenig: Thanks. I just left out the "examples" part.
[02:45] <Peebo> http://www.abc.net.au/children/
[02:45] <theflyingfool> i have w32installed
[02:45] <Spaghetti_Knife> bruenig: Then it worked.
[02:45] <JulieJulie> Or could there be a website or a help forum that I could possibly read to see what it could mean?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> theflyingfool: or run ff with aoss firefox
[02:45] <freshburn> so should i run the newest 6.10 or stick with 6.06 being a newbie, it will be connected to my home net with 2 xp pcs a modded xbox with gentoo on it and my tivo box
[02:45] <bruenig> Spaghetti_Knife, you can highlight text and then click with the mouse wheel to paste, just an fyi, cool linux thing
[02:45] <Darxus> the alternate install is standalone (doesn't require another cd)?
[02:45] <Peebo> !tivo
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tivo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <Flannel> Darxus: correct
[02:45] <gnomefreak> Darxus: right
[02:45] <Spaghetti_Knife> bruenig: Thanks.
[02:45] <Thuggernaut> freshburn i think you should go with 6.06, i've been having tons more problems with edgy
[02:45] <xipietotec> theflyingfool: make sure you have your default player and alsa configured properly
[02:45] <freshburn> ty
[02:46] <Thuggernaut> np
[02:46] <Darxus> nice
[02:46] <freshburn> l8tr all
[02:46] <Thuggernaut> peace
[02:46] <gizmo_the_great1> I have just written a couple of avi files to DVD using Nautilus. It loads fine on a Windows XP laptop, but my DVD player (that is connected to the TV) cannot recognise the disk. Does nautilus use a standard DVD format, like Joliet or some such, in which case my DVD just does not recognise the files (it is a few years old), or is it not likely to play on a more modern player either?
[02:46] <svish> When installing the ati drivers, it said that I should find Driver "fglrx" under the "Device" section.. but there is two "Device" sections?? What do I do?
[02:46] <bruenig> gizmo_the_great1, it probably just wrote it as data
[02:47] <bruenig> gizmo_the_great1, or I don't know. I always used tovid to encode to dvd and then made an iso and burned that
[02:47] <whitehawk1966> GRaphics?
[02:47] <sleepy009> svish, that is because you have 2 outputs on your vga card
[02:47] <gizmo_the_great1> bruenig: That is what I thought, and hoped. My DVD player is about 3 or 4 years old so probably just cannot play avi
[02:47] <jackson3246> if I sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop when I'm using regular ubuntu, will I be able to uninstall ALL of KDE with a sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop?
[02:47] <svish> sleepy009: oooh... thanks :)
[02:47] <jackson3246> or should I just install the kde package
[02:48] <sleepy009> svish, fglrx under both
[02:48] <bruenig> gizmo_the_great1, well search for a tovid howto on the forums, I used that plus wrote some scripts to automate it and it works fine
[02:48] <Vuen> jackson3246: you would apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop, then apt-get autoremove
[02:48] <whitehawk1966> lookin for a graphic program for slick graphics
[02:48] <gizmo_the_great1> bruenig: cheers
[02:48] <Flannel> jackson3246: kubuntu-desktop is probably a better meta package than kde
[02:48] <Vuen> jackson3246: or aptitude, whichever you want to use
[02:48] <jackson3246> Vuen, Flannel: thanks! :)
[02:49] <Darxus> oh, this is for a server, is the server install non-graphical?
[02:49] <Vuen> Darxus: it should ask you whether you want a gui
[02:50] <Darxus> oh duh it says it won't install a gui
[02:50] <tonyyarusso> Darxus: of course :)
[02:50] <fromvega> bruenig: "apt-get remove ejabberd && apt-get autoremove" did not remove all the installed stuff. I've downloaded almost 40mb and now it will just free 2mb... :\
[02:50] <derrik> Darxus: you can install a gui desktop from the command line after installing the server that's what i did
[02:51] <Thuggernaut> or you can use the alternate install
[02:51] <Flannel> derrik: just make sure you switch your kernel off the -server one
[02:51] <bruenig> fromvega, of course it will
[02:51] <bruenig> fromvega, the first little prompt is only talking about ejabberd
[02:51] <derrik> Flannel: why's that?
[02:51] <val_> ndiswrapper on a hp laptop.  i get s far as selecting the inf file and it tells me that no hardware is present for that driver
[02:51] <bruenig> then you should have another one after that
[02:51] <fromvega> bruenig: ok...  so there will be more prompts?
[02:52] <Flannel> derrik: the -server kernel has some server optomizations that make it less suitable for desktop processing
[02:52] <n2diy> bruenig: fromvega, I've found that libs that were needed for the install don't get removed.
[02:52] <Peebo> Any one running 64bit Ubuntu and firefox
[02:52] <Samus_Aran> does anyone know if the Ubuntu 6.06 install CD has write support for NTFS (such as Captive NTFS)
[02:52] <derrik> Flannel: i'll look into that, thanks!
[02:52] <Samus_Aran> ?
[02:52] <GuerrillaWon> I am.
[02:52] <Flannel> Samus_Aran: no.
[02:52] <bruenig> Samus_Aran, it does not
[02:52] <Thuggernaut> i dun think it has write support
[02:52] <GuerrillaWon> Err Peebo I am.
[02:53] <Music_Shuffle> Write to NTFS = Fuse
[02:53] <bruenig> Flannel doesn't know if it has write support, seems like he would. Usually is up on things like that
[02:53] <GuerrillaWon> But I literally just installed like 2 hours ago, I'm a new born Ubuntu baby.
[02:53] <Peebo> Can you go to this web site and tell me how it works 4 you      http://www.abc.net.au/children/
[02:53] <Darxus> derrik: I figured that was possible, thanks (but I'm pretty sure he won't want the gui)
[02:53] <Flannel> bruenig: "no" means, no it does not.  If I wasn't sure, I wouldn't say anything.
[02:53] <GuerrillaWon> Looks like it loads missing the body.
[02:54] <derrik> Flannel: when and where would i switch the kernel?
[02:54] <GuerrillaWon> I've got the top, and bottom, but the middls is just bubbles I guess.
[02:54] <Thuggernaut> aight guys thanks for the advice, peace out
[02:54] <Peebo> GuerillaWon Ok you have no flash player installed
[02:54] <fromvega> bruenig: oh god, now it can't remove ejabberd. dpkg: error processing ejabberd (--remove): / Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:54] <GuerrillaWon> ahh yes
[02:54] <fromvega> bruenig: do you have any idea?
[02:54] <GuerrillaWon> That's true.
[02:54] <Peebo> Any one running 64bit Ubuntu and firefox with a Flash player installed
[02:54] <GuerrillaWon> Sorry for not helping at all hah! I forgot I haven't updated flash etc. yet
[02:54] <Peebo> pref 6.10
[02:55] <Flannel> derrik: just install the appropriate non-server linux-image, probably -generic (well, I suppose it depends on what version of ubuntu you're using), then reboot, just like upgrading kernel versions.
[02:55] <Peebo> No pob
[02:55] <Peebo> No prob
[02:56] <nikin> anyone tryed to install GuildWars on ubuntu?
[02:56] <GuerrillaWon> I'm going to install and restart.
[02:56] <Music_Shuffle> Nope.
[02:56] <GuerrillaWon> Gimme a second.
[02:56] <bruenig> fromvega, snope
[02:56] <dredhammer> hello again  i installed libdvdcss2 new and still my commercial dvds refuse to play past the first layer i just recently upgraded from dapper to edgy
[02:56] <bruenig> fromvega, that is package specific, my command had nothing to do with it
[02:56] <J_-> has anyone got gyachi enhanced working with a webcam in ubuntu?
[02:56] <dredhammer> is there something wrong with this version of libdvdcss2
[02:56] <fromvega> bruenig: does apt-get consult the application before uninstalling it?
[02:57] <bruenig> fromvega, I don't know, perhaps
[02:57] <nikin> dreadhammer: you have no problems with sigglelayer(4,7GB) DVDs?
[02:58] <val_> ndiswrapper on a hp laptop.  i get s far as selecting the inf file and it tells me that no hardware is present for that driver. does this mean that its going to be impossible to get wireless?
[02:58] <GuerrillaWon> brb peebo
[02:59] <maul555> I am looking for help with enabling hardware acceleration in games.....
[02:59] <QMario> What is the command for configuring the X.org server in Ubuntu from a terminal?
[03:00] <maul555> QMario: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:00] <GuerrillaWon> Peebo says my architecture isn't supported. Sorry man I gota figure out how to install flash first heh
[03:00] <maul555> I am looking for help with enabling hardware acceleration in games.....
[03:01] <Jordan_U> !ati | maul555
[03:01] <ubotu> maul555: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:01] <maul555> yep, ati
[03:01] <maul555> i allready installed the drivers
[03:01] <maul555> past that
[03:01] <maul555> ...
[03:01] <Jordan_U> maul555: Edgy?
[03:01] <reema> i'm trying to iterate through a list of filenames in a bash script using a for loop. but the file names have spaces in them. how can i do this? the problem i am facing is that a single file name is being separated into multiple tokens at the spaces
[03:01] <maul555> no,  6.06
[03:02] <fnord_> trying to setup a linksys wireless g router,some help with the setup would be nice,like what packages i have to install or whatever
[03:02] <Jordan_U> maul555: Can you pastebin your xorg.conf ?
[03:02] <vbgunz> Anybody here have any idea why Nautilus does not show my / directory ? if I cd / in the cli and ls everything is there but Nautilus doesn't show it. wtf is that?
[03:03] <maul555> fnord_:   you should need nothing to setup your router except a browser...
[03:03] <maul555> Jordan_U:   ill try
[03:03] <fnord_> maul,how do i find the addy for it?and its :8080 right?
[03:03] <burepe>  I installed drupal in my server and when I go to the main page I get the text from the index.php file not the sign in page. I think php is not working. Can anyone help me out?
[03:04] <J_-> Is there a cross-platform webcam/chat program that runs on linux, and Windows that'll communicate between both system types?
[03:04] <Flannel> burepe: do you have libapache2-mod-php5 installed?
[03:04] <burepe> skype
[03:04] <roach_> anyone know how I might be able to (effectively) repartition my HDDs to move (at least) /boot out of the RAID1/LVM?
[03:04] <maul555> fnord_:   find out what the default IP for your router is, and navigate your browser to that..  log in with the default  username/pass and setup your options
[03:04] <burepe> but I don't know if it does webcam under linux
[03:04] <maul555> fnord_:   it will work just like a webpage
[03:04] <sleepy009> J_-, aMSN
[03:04] <fnord_> maul555: how do i find the defult
[03:05] <maul555> fnord_:  sometimes it says on the bottom of the router, otherwise, google it
[03:05] <NkuMike> hey does anyone have a samba conf(that works with windows ) that has no passwords and usernames that they can send me so I can just overwrite mine?
[03:05] <J_-> hmm k thanks
[03:05] <oleen> having trouble getting my wireless up and running from boot. iwconfig... from cmd works great, but want to automate it
[03:05] <burepe> Flannel I had orginally installed php5 but drupal needs php4 so I just installed that stuff now. I think that is where the problem lies. Do I need that if I need php4?
[03:05] <zhimsel> NkuMike: Yeah, I would like one too:)
[03:05] <Samus_Aran> Flannel, bruenig: thank you
[03:06] <NkuMike> I followed all of the directions and just nothing!
[03:06] <Flannel> burepe: ah, right.  I remember that requirement.  Yeah, you'll need libapache2-mod-php4, which is in universe.  and then you'll need to a2enmod (Apache2 ENable MODule) php4
[03:06] <fnord_> maul555: i examaned the router,and all i found out was that teh little rubber feet taste bad if you lick them,so ill try google for more data,thanks
[03:07] <TWD> Hey when I installed a program with apt-get it asked me all sorts of configuration questions, but I answered one wrong, how can I get back into that configuration screen?
[03:07] <maul555> Jordan_U:   what do you mean by pastebin???  ive got it open in front of me...
[03:07] <burepe> flannel what is the command for the second part?
[03:07] <Flannel> J_-: ekiga (formely gnomemeeting) does H.323 and all that fun standards stuff.  And can communicate with MS Netmeeting/etc
[03:07] <burepe> I think I just did both of thoes and still nothing Flannel
[03:07] <Flannel> burepe: sudo a2enmod php4, once you have libapache2-mod-php4 installed
[03:08] <Julie_Julie> Im getting this when im trying to install ubuntu its a black screen with the final line saying this?  Buffer i/0 error on device sr0, logical block 266424
[03:08] <PurpleBlue> I recently switched camps from Win XP to Ubuntu.  In the past 3 days my computer has frozen 7 times.  I am not a super nerd and not able to debug or read my own system logs.  I was wondering what is the best way to go about resolving what ever issue maybe?
[03:08] <zhimsel> On another note, I am having a problem when Ubuntu starts. I moved the gdm init script last because HAL wasn't loading in time. But now it get "stuck" on loading the system logger and kernel logger. It takes about 4~6minutes to load, then everything continues normally
[03:08] <burepe> Flannel it says "already enabled1"
[03:08] <burepe> "already enabled!"
[03:09] <Flannel> burepe: alright, then you have it.  (theoretically anyway), does /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ have php4.conf and .load?
[03:09] <ceacro> hello pals again
[03:09] <Jordan_U> !paste maul555
[03:09] <ceacro> hi jordan
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste maul555 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <maul555> AAAAAAHHHH
[03:09] <maul555> !ati
[03:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:10] <ceacro> ey gays
[03:10] <Jordan_U> !paste | maul555
[03:10] <ubotu> maul555: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:10] <burepe> Flannel: there are many .load files
[03:10] <maul555> hrmm...
[03:10] <ceacro> I have to reinstall linux again
[03:10] <ceacro> with 30 bits
[03:10] <Flannel> burepe: right, you're looking for php4.load and php4.conf
[03:10] <ceacro> 32
[03:10] <maul555> Jordan_U:  awsome, give me a min
[03:10] <svish> umm...HELP!!! im am now live from ubuntu livecd, because I cant get back into ubuntu after installing the ati drivers!
[03:10] <zhimsel> I am having a problem when Ubuntu starts. I moved the gdm init script last because HAL wasn't loading in time. But now it get "stuck" on loading the system logger and kernel logger. It takes about 4~6minutes to load, then everything continues normally
[03:10] <ceacro> everything works well
[03:10] <burepe> Flannel: yeah
[03:10] <zhimsel> can anyone help?
[03:11] <capiira> hmmmm hi i would like to know if a ubuntu version upgrade usually works well?
[03:11] <burepe> Flannel: then what is going on... hmm
[03:11] <maul555> svish: calm down, i had the same thing happen yesterday
[03:11] <burepe> Flannel www.ekoshi.net/1/
[03:11] <svish> maul555: what do I do. the splash screen with all it is loading goes ok, but then the screen goes black after that and just doesnt do anything
[03:12] <maul555> svish: just boot into recovery and put this into the terminal:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:12] <Flannel> burepe: open up php4.conf and make sure it's got an AddHandler directive in it
[03:12] <maul555> svish: also  typing  aticonfig should work
[03:12] <bruenig> !xconfig
[03:12] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:12] <fromvega> When I type 'hostname' it prints 'linux-server' but I have changed it (or have tried) in /etc/hosts file. There is no 'linux-server' there. And when I type hostname -a it prints 'Unknow host". Could you help-me fix that?
[03:13] <burepe> Flannel: what does an addhandler look like?
[03:14] <Flannel> burepe: "AddHandler ... " with some stuff about php
[03:14] <m4jqp> how do i install an older version of a package?
[03:14] <zhimsel> can anyone help with an init/hal/syslog/ksyslog boot problem? thanks!
[03:14] <maul555> Jordan_U:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/412/
[03:14] <svish> thanks! pretty new to linux.. will try it out
[03:14] <maul555> write it down
[03:14] <burepe> Flannel: this? AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3
[03:14] <roach_> My Ubuntu (6.10/AMD64) system used to boot, but now I get "L99 99 99 99..." - which is a problem with the LILO second stage bootloader.  I have everything under RAID1+LVM, so now I have no clue how to fix this...
[03:15] <Styles> how can i make multiple bash for loops in one loop to get more variables? like: for (A in ``; B in ``); do ; done ?
[03:15] <roach_> I tried switching to GRUB2, but it won't compile on AMD64.  :(
[03:15] <capiira> hmmmm does breezy upgrades well to edgy, or will i need to do a clean install ?
[03:15] <chico> how do i update my firefox
[03:16] <GuerrillaWon> How do I switch to the root account to change file ownership?
[03:16] <Flannel> burepe: oh, have you restarted apache?
[03:16] <bruenig> chico, what do you have now
[03:16] <Flannel> GuerrillaWon: sudo
[03:16] <zhimsel> chico: sudo apt-get upgrade firefox
[03:16] <chico> 1.5
[03:16] <chico> ty
[03:16] <FordPrefect> sucks that sun-java-5 is stuck at _08 even in Edgy
[03:16] <FordPrefect> because the compiler has a nasty bug
[03:16] <bruenig> chico, that command won't work
[03:16] <zhimsel> np
[03:16] <zhimsel> bruenig: why not?
[03:16] <chico> oh
[03:16] <chico> yeah
[03:16] <chico> it is not
[03:16] <GuerrillaWon> II've tried that, logged in, and I think once you do you stay root for a bit.
[03:16] <bruenig> if he has 1.5 he is in dapper
[03:16] <FordPrefect> thus you have to manually install which sucks too :-)
[03:16] <zhimsel> :)
[03:16] <GuerrillaWon> But I still see $
[03:16] <zhimsel> sorry
[03:16] <Peebo> burepe: Mornin
[03:16] <GuerrillaWon> No #, is that normal?
[03:16] <bruenig> chico, you will need to get it from getfirefox.com
[03:17] <fnord_> maul555: google said: 192.168.1.245 (subnet 255.255.255.0).     so i typed the first ip into my browser and it didint work?
[03:17] <Flannel> GuerrillaWon: sudo [command]  will run [command]  as the super user
[03:17] <chico> i have it now placed in my desktop
[03:17] <bruenig> chico, extract it
[03:17] <Flannel> GuerrillaWon: ubuntu doesn't use the root account by default
[03:17] <burepe> hey
[03:17] <chico> i just want to replace the old one
[03:17] <Flannel> !sudo | GuerrillaWon, fo rmore information
[03:17] <ubotu> GuerrillaWon, fo rmore information: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:17] <Peebo> burepe: U running 64 bit ?
[03:17] <bruenig> chico, then just run the firefox script inside the extracted directory
[03:17] <zhimsel> bruenig: the only thing is that it is a pain in the ass replacing the libraries
[03:17] <GuerrillaWon> Thank you.
[03:17] <burepe> Flannel: I did still won't work
[03:17] <zhimsel> since the script didnt work for me
[03:17] <burepe> peebo no
[03:17] <bruenig> zhimsel, you don't need to do that just symlink /usr/bin/firefox to the new one
[03:17] <chico> which script
[03:17] <GuerrillaWon> So I'd assume sudo chown something in order to change directory ownerships?
[03:17] <maul555> fnord_:   you have your router plugged in, your computer plugged into it, and the router has been reset??  also youll need to iether renew your ip from the router or manualy set it to match...
[03:18] <Peebo> Hmm Bugga
[03:18] <zhimsel> i know... thats what I did, but I ran into problems later and couldnt remember which lib was which
[03:18] <Flannel> burepe: I haven't dabbled in apache in a while, I can't remember, you might try asking in #apache
[03:18] <bimberi> GuerrillaWon: you got it :)
[03:18] <Peebo> burepe: What apache info you need
[03:18] <burepe> thanks
[03:18] <zhimsel> i had /usr/lib/{firefox,firefox-1.5,firefox2,firefox~} :)
[03:19] <GuerrillaWon> Thanks for the help!
[03:19] <bruenig> zhimsel, I would just put it in /opt
[03:19] <bruenig> then symlink the plugins and /usr/bin/firefox
[03:19] <Jordan_U> maul555: According to your xorg.conf you are still using the "ati" driver instead of the "fglrx" driver
[03:19] <zhimsel> that works too :) didn't think of that
[03:19] <bruenig> and everything should go
[03:19] <burepe> I installed drupal and when I go to the sign in page I get the text of the index.php file only instead. So I thought php wasn't working but it seems to be fine
[03:20] <t4dyce> sound only works on primary account.  what rights do I need to set to enable sound on regular user accounts?
[03:20] <burepe> Peebo: http://www.ekoshi.net/1/
[03:20] <magic_ninja> whenever i put a game cdrom in the cd drive and try to mount it it mounts fine, but whenever i try to mount any other type of cd it works, any ideas?
[03:20] <maul555> Jordan_U:   why are all my 3d games sooooo slow, im getting like below 5 fps... i have a 2ghz computer, and a 128mb 3d ati card,.. these games should be better even with software rendering
[03:20] <zhimsel> bruenig, do you know anything about the boot process?
[03:20] <crimsun> t4dyce: add the user(s) to the 'audio' group, then have them log out and back in
[03:20] <bruenig> not really, not enough to troubleshoot at least
[03:20] <zhimsel> oh
[03:20] <Jordan_U> t4dyce: I belive they need to be part of the audio group
[03:20] <magic_ninja> maul555: you need to install your video drivers
[03:21] <magic_ninja> maul555: make sure you got your glx stuff installed too
[03:21] <zhimsel> I'm having a hard time troubleshooting mine :) thanks.
[03:21] <Peebo> GuerrillaWon: Dewd how you going with Flash ??
[03:21] <kaoz> can someone help me get openGL setup?
[03:21] <t4dyce> thanks I will give it a shot
[03:21] <kitche> kaoz: what video card?
[03:21] <kaoz> ati radeon 9550
[03:21] <maul555> magic_ninja:   i installed the ati drivers....  even had to configure them to keep my computer from blanking the screen upon boot
[03:21] <zhimsel> can anyone help with an init/hal/syslog/ksyslog boot problem? thanks!
[03:21] <GuerrillaWon> Peebo: I didn't see you responding anymore so I moved onto my own problems again :P
[03:21] <Peebo> burepe: I take it that it's not supposed to prompt me to save that file
[03:22] <GuerrillaWon> Peebo: Give me a few minutes to sort some things out and I'll give it another go.
[03:22] <pokesmot> damn, theres a lot of friggin channels on freenode
[03:22] <kitche> !ati|kaoz this should help since I m not an ATI user
[03:22] <ubotu> kaoz this should help since I m not an ATI user: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:22] <magic_ninja> are you running a native linux game/
[03:22] <burepe> yeah
[03:22] <Music_Shuffle> !xconfig
[03:22] <Peebo> GuerrillaWon: No worries mate. I'm wandering all over the place at the moment.
[03:22] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". Append " --phigh" to configure only the driver and resolution information.
[03:22] <kaoz> !ati
[03:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:22] <maul555> magic_ninja:  yeah... from the games menu on ubuntu
[03:22] <Peebo> burepe: Let me check it out for a sec.
[03:22] <magic_ninja> try enemy-territory
[03:22] <magic_ninja> hmmm
[03:23] <magic_ninja> i don't really know man
[03:23] <kitche> kaoz: in that link it has all the steps you need since I won't touch ATI and linux together since they are more of a pain then nvidia
[03:23] <Jordan_U_> maul555: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh and choose "fglrx" as the driver when asked ( not "ati" ) then restart X ( ctrl+alt+bkspace ) and your games should run full speed
[03:23] <magic_ninja> see there is a true pro
[03:23] <kaoz> thanks kitche i think i tried that sitre last nite and to no avail i still have no 3d rendering
[03:23] <Music_Shuffle> !xconfig
[03:23] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". Append " --phigh" to configure only the driver and resolution information.
[03:23] <Music_Shuffle> Jordan_U, --, not -, no?
[03:24] <maul555> jordan_U:   wow... that seems oposite to me...    why is it like that?  lol...
[03:24] <zhimsel> Does anyone know If it would be bad if I disabled the system and kernel logs from starting at boot? Or at least moved them to the end of the rc order?
[03:24] <Jordan_U_> Music_Shuffle: - it is just p for priority then high so I think it is only one dash
[03:24] <Darby> zhimsel - It may be difficult to diagnose boot problems.  But, other than that, do what you want.  ;-)
[03:24] <Darby> zhimsel - I mean, this isn't a production server or anything, is it?
[03:24] <Peebo> burepe: What is PHTML ?
[03:24] <Darby> zhimsel - Worst comes to worst, you can just reinstall your OS, right?
[03:25] <roach_> is there such a thing as a rescue disk for LILO?  like the Super GRUB Disk?
[03:25] <Roscar> Hi everybody, I recently tried installing the ati binary drivers and I'm not happy with the result. How can I restore the originals?
[03:25] <zhimsel> darby: No, it's not. It's my personal laptop.
[03:25] <Darby> zhimsel - Then experiment away!  :-D
[03:25] <zhimsel> darby: yes I could, for the 3rd time
[03:25] <burepe> Peebo: no idea
[03:25] <kitche> roach_: nope since with lilo you have to chroot into the partition then run lilo to update lilo
[03:25] <zhimsel> since windows f***ed it up :)
[03:25] <cafuego_> roach_: Just boot the box from the CD with root=... option.
[03:25] <Peebo> burepe: I thought this was something you where making
[03:25] <tritium> Roscar: you installed the ubuntu packages?
[03:26] <tito_linux> How can I change the default GRUB entry?
[03:26] <Roscar> tritium: as far as I know I did.
[03:26] <tito_linux> I have three kernels installed and Generic isn't the default
[03:26] <burepe> it is a drupal installation
[03:26] <Jordan_U_> maul555: the "ati" driver is the open source one, ATI named their proprietary driver "fglrx", why they did that I have no idea :)
[03:26] <Peebo> !drupal
[03:26] <ubotu> drupal: fully-featured content management/discussion engine. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.5.8-2 (edgy), package size 478 kB, installed size 1944 kB
[03:26] <maul555> jordan_U_:  I just ran "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"   and it asked me to pick a resolution and then exited
[03:26] <tritium> Roscar: change fglrx back to ati in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:26] <disastorm> hey does anyone know why my startup programs doesn't save
[03:26] <burepe> Peebo: I have installed it like 10 times never had anything like this happen.
[03:27] <zhimsel> disastorm, startup from GNOME or from the system (i.e. init)
[03:27] <zhimsel> ?
[03:27] <disastorm> startup from gnome
[03:27] <Jordan_U_> maul555: That is strange, there is a command specifically to do it, aticonfig or something I'll ask what it is.
[03:27] <maul555> ill try aticonfig.. i think thats it
[03:27] <disastorm> system/ preferences/ session/startup programs doesnt save for me
[03:27] <zhimsel> What happens exactly
[03:28] <disastorm> if i add something clsoe it and open it again its not there anymore
[03:28] <disastorm> ive been trying to add the xscreensaver daemon to start but it wont save
[03:28] <zhimsel> You mean from a saved session?
[03:28] <GuerrillaWon> How do I chown a dir and subdirs to userx?
[03:28] <GuerrillaWon> I can't get the proper command line. :/
[03:28] <cafuego_> chown user:group dir -R
[03:28] <disastorm> i dont have any sessions under "Sessions:"
[03:28] <bruenig> sudo chown user:group -R dir
[03:28] <disastorm> do i need one there
[03:28] <GuerrillaWon> Thanks again.
[03:28] <bruenig> or the -R may be before
[03:28] <maul555> errr, nm  aticonfig didnt quite give me that option
[03:28] <bruenig> not sure
[03:29] <cafuego_> the -R may be anywhere after chown
[03:29] <zhimsel> No, that's just your saved sessions.
[03:29] <cafuego_> (but only on Linux)
[03:29] <Roscar> tritium: so I've edited my xorg.conf. if I just restart my x server with ctrl-alt-bksp will that load the new driver?
[03:29] <GuerrillaWon> Yea the -r means subdirs included right?
[03:29] <bruenig> zhimsel, that is not the case, disastorm it is odd that it isn't saving
[03:29] <tritium> Roscar: yes
[03:29] <GuerrillaWon> I can only figure these things out 70%
[03:29] <GuerrillaWon> ehh
[03:29] <bruenig> GuerrillaWon, yes the -R, it is case sensative
[03:29] <bds> GuerrillaWon: r=recursive
[03:29] <bruenig> sensitive*
[03:29] <disastorm> i found one or two people with the same problem on the forums but no one ever replied to their posts
[03:29] <zhimsel> To add a startup item, go to the third tab in that window and add the binary/script/etc of the program you want to run
[03:30] <cafuego_> GuerrillaWon: 'R' not 'r'
[03:30] <Jbirk> I installed firefox 2
[03:30] <GuerrillaWon> ahh ok thanks
[03:30] <Jbirk> But, the spell checker doesn't work
[03:30] <pokesmot> Make war on machines, and in particular the sterile machines of corporate death and the robots that guard them.
[03:30] <disastorm> after i close the window the script or program i added is no longer there
[03:30] <maul555> jordan_U_: found it.. i opened up a root terminal and entered "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and there it was
[03:30] <disastorm> it doesnt save when i close the window
[03:30] <bruenig> disastorm, figure out where it is saving them
[03:30] <zhimsel> hmmm...
[03:30] <bruenig> disastorm, or where it is supposed to save them
[03:30] <maul555> jordan_U_:  second question though  should i use the kernel frame buffer device interface?
[03:30] <kaoz> ok the reconfigure of my xserver did not work
[03:30] <bruenig> disastorm, should be in one of the hom . directories
[03:31] <bruenig> home*
[03:31] <kaoz> i did as shown and chose fglrx and still no rendering
[03:31] <bruenig> I am in xubuntu or I would look
[03:31] <pokesmot> The duty of a revolutionary is to make love and that means staying alive and free. That doesn't allow for cop-outs. Smoking dope and hanging up Che's picture is no more a commitment than drinking milk and collecting postage stamps.
[03:31] <bruenig> !offtopic | pokesmot
[03:31] <ubotu> pokesmot: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:31] <kaoz> when i run fglrxinfo command at terminal i get info about a mesa gl direct driver or something
[03:31] <zan_d> yeah
[03:31] <zan_d> missing xorg.conf
[03:32] <Peebo> burepe: Working on this for U mate should have an answer soon
[03:32] <zan_d> oh, now is there
[03:32] <tirus89> h3xis, you here?
[03:32] <h3xis> yes i am
[03:32] <kaoz> anyone with an ati card here that can helpout?
[03:32] <bruenig> then this is cheating
[03:33] <tirus89> h3xis, um, whats the command to restartX
[03:33] <pokesmot> i dont even know what kind of card i have
[03:33] <burepe> Peebo: thanks
[03:33] <h3xis> tirus89, ctrl alt backspace
[03:33] <Jordan_U__> maul555: You need to run: sudo aticonfig --initial && sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv ( sorry, my wireless connection keeps cutting out )
[03:33] <tirus89> h3xis, i might have gotten dapper working...i dunno
[03:33] <h3xis> "might"?
[03:33] <h3xis> did it boot?
[03:34] <Jetrii> Hello, is anyone here familiar with hot swapping on Linux?
[03:34] <tirus89> hexis, yesh, but if edgy dont work, ima stone you
[03:34] <Jbirk> Why won't the inline spellchecker work?
[03:34] <disastorm> so u guys dont know how to fix my startup programs not saving
[03:34] <tirus89> h3xis, it booted but X seems to be screwed
[03:34] <maul555> jordan_U_:  well, i ran the --initial allready..    and i just selected that driver you wanted me to use..   should i restart and see if that did it before trying the --overlay thingy?
[03:34] <h3xis> hm
[03:34] <h3xis> tirus89, did edgy finish d/l?
[03:34] <bruenig> disastorm, I just told you to look for the config file that goes with it, it should be in the home directories, in one of those . directories
[03:35] <tirus89> h3xis, na, my dad got on the comp and  freaked out on me so i had to stop it
[03:35] <h3xis> hahaha
[03:35] <h3xis> "edgy eft! what?! this is satan's OS!"
[03:35] <zhimsel> bruenig, i'm trying to find it, i can't remember where it is :)
[03:35] <Jordan_U__> maul555: Sure, I don't actually know what each command does specifically as I never use them
[03:35] <kaoz> ok i just got this message "aticonfig: Writing to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. Bad file descriptor.
[03:35] <kaoz> ssage
[03:35] <ctothej> ive tried everything i can think of. can someone help me troubleshoot getting my usb sound card recognized? it worked in dapper...
[03:35] <tirus89> h3xis, no, he was like WTF WITH THE FCKING BITTORRENT AHAFIGAFTA
[03:35] <zan_d> but even the cli is messed up
[03:35] <maul555> ok, thx.... restarting.. brb
[03:35] <Peebo> burepe: We need to find out what handles PHTML
[03:35] <zan_d> where is screen info kept for the cli?
[03:35] <Peebo> !phtml
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phtml - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:36] <tirus89> !xubuntu
[03:36] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[03:36] <bruenig> in xubuntu it is ~/.config/autostart
[03:36] <bruenig> maybe that helps
[03:36] <zhimsel> disastorm, it saves it in ~/.config/autostart
[03:36] <zhimsel> each item should be a *.desktop file
[03:36] <Peebo> burepe: Ok it's PHP by another name
[03:36] <kaoz> anyone have any idea what htat means?   aticonfig: Writing to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. Bad file descriptor.
[03:36] <burepe> ok
[03:36] <zhimsel> check the permissions of the dir, maybe something is not letting access?
[03:37] <Peebo> burepe: That should make it easy
[03:37] <Peebo> Hang tight
[03:37] <disastorm> all i see in .config/autostart is beagled.desktop
[03:37] <kaoz> oh yeah hehe forgot to sudo
[03:37] <zhimsel> what's the name of the app you want to launch?
[03:37] <bruenig> disastorm, yeah open it up in gedit and make it right
[03:39] <Roscar> tritium: oh my that didn't work. I did more than that to the file apparently. in case you're wondering, you can regenerate the xorg.conf with the command dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg. that was listed in the file.
[03:39] <DarkLegacy> Hey guys
[03:39] <DarkLegacy> I think I want to use Ubuntu full time
[03:39] <DarkLegacy> But I want to dual boot
[03:39] <DarkLegacy> Can you guys please link to a guide or something for dual booting /w Ubuntu?
[03:39] <tritium> Roscar: yes, you certainly can ;)
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> !dualboot | DarkLegacy
[03:39] <ubotu> DarkLegacy: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[03:39] <Peebo> burepe: Locate php.conf  and add these lines      AddHandler php5-script .phtml                                              AddType text/html .phtml
[03:39] <DarkLegacy> Thank you Tony
[03:40] <bruenig> disastorm, just to make sure you have the right permissions and stuff do these two things, sudo chmod 755 ~/.config/autostart/* && sudo chmod username -R ~/.config/autostart/*
[03:40] <marcus_> !beryl
[03:40] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:40] <bruenig> disastorm, change usename for your own
[03:40] <eitan> hey guys, wondering if this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/68540 has been solved yet for 6.10
[03:40] <bruenig> !repeat | eitan
[03:40] <ubotu> eitan: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:40] <bruenig> ubotu, tell eitan about repeat
[03:40] <bruenig> !repeat > eitan
[03:40] <Peebo> burepe: AddHandler php5-script .phtml
[03:40] <Peebo> AddType text/html .phtml
[03:40] <tirus89> h3xis, ok, reinstall of bit torrent and resumed download
[03:40] <kaoz> ok i ran aticonfig  --initial and the other one... still no rendering though
[03:41] <h3xis> tirus89, k
[03:41] <kaoz> and when i run fglrxinfo i still get mesa3d crap instead of fglrx or ati
[03:41] <tirus89> h3xis, yay, 3 hours!
[03:41] <h3xis> better than 4
[03:41] <tirus89> h3xis, if this works, ima not stone you
[03:41] <h3xis> tirus89, it will
[03:42] <kaoz> how cna i uninstall anything to do with opengl or video..... then reinstall from the deb files that the ati install program creates?
[03:42] <GuerrillaWon> Hmm how do I check user groups?
[03:42] <burepe> peebo nothing changed
[03:42] <zhimsel> !patience
[03:42] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:42] <zhimsel> lol
[03:42] <disastorm> chmod: invalid mode: `disastorm'
[03:42] <disastorm> Try `chmod --help' for more information.
[03:43] <GuerrillaWon> I thought I found them but apparently the usergroup I'm thinking it is, isn't.
[03:43] <Peebo> burepe: did you restart Apache
[03:43] <disastorm> the autostart folder is under root permissions
[03:43] <Jordan_U> kaoz: Are you using XGL? Could you post your xorg.conf? I doubt that uninstalling everything video related will do any good
[03:43] <burepe> eyah
[03:43] <GuerrillaWon> oh who
[03:43] <bruenig> disastorm, my fault the last command should be chown not chmod
[03:43] <GuerrillaWon> Forgot about that.
[03:43] <kaoz> ok 2 questions cus im a noob... what is xgl and can i get a link to pastebin?
[03:43] <bruenig> disastorm, the rest is the same
[03:43] <bruenig> !paste
[03:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:43] <kaoz> !paste
[03:43] <bruenig> !xgl
[03:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:44] <maul555> Jordan_U_:  Its better, but i dont think its doing what its supposed to still...
[03:44] <marcus_> i just installed air core. is there anything else i should do?
[03:44] <disastorm> the permissions wont seem to change lol
[03:44] <disastorm> its still under root
[03:44] <Peebo> burepe: I don't have Apache installed on Ubuntu. I have it on  FedoraCore 4 box and a RedHAt nine box. Where did you find php.conf file
[03:45] <GuerrillaWon> Hey, seriously thank you guys for the help, from everyone such as myself, it's truly appreceated.
[03:45] <bruenig> disastorm, chown username ~/.config/autostart/*
[03:45] <bruenig> disasm, that should work
[03:45] <kaoz> Jordan here is my pastebin url for my xorg.conf file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/413/
[03:45] <Jbirk> I need help with firefox 2 on Dapper
[03:45] <burepe> peebo /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[03:46] <Jbirk> The spell checker doesn't wprl
[03:46] <Jbirk> please help
[03:46] <bruenig> Jbirk, it only works in text fields
[03:46] <Jbirk> I know
[03:46] <Jbirk> textarea
[03:46] <bruenig> Jbirk, so if you are searching in google or something, it won't work
[03:46] <Jbirk> right?
[03:46] <burepe> Jbirk: spell checker in firefox?
[03:46] <Jbirk> It is not working for me
[03:46] <Jbirk> no red underlins
[03:46] <disastorm> the files in autostart are under my permission but not the folder
[03:46] <bruenig> Jbirk, where are you trying to do it
[03:46] <Peebo> burepe: It has that option
[03:47] <Jbirk> I want firefox to put a red underline under any word I mispell
[03:47] <Jbirk> that is all I am after
[03:47] <bruenig> disastorm, do the folder then chown username -R ~/.config/autostart
[03:47] <burepe> Jbirk: google toolbar will do that too
[03:47] <Jbirk> I hate toolbars
[03:47] <jmworx_> Does anyone know what's in the latest Dapper Firefox update and why going to the mailman interface to my list (lists.xiph.org/mailman/admindb/speex-dev) makes it crash now?
[03:47] <kaoz> if you want to chmod a full folder and all subs to 77 use the command chmod -R 777 then folder location
[03:47] <Jbirk> I just want firefox 2 to do it
[03:47] <Jbirk> why doesn't it work?
[03:47] <Jbirk> I followed these instructions
[03:47] <Peebo> burepe: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php.conf    <-   does httpd.conf have an include for this directory ?
[03:47] <burepe> Jbirk: i just have it hidden and it does my spell checking
[03:47] <SurfnKid> hi anyone know where OpenOffice saves temporary files?
[03:48] <bruenig> it is a bad idea to chmod 777 the config directories, I did that once and it wouldn't let me boot
[03:48] <bruenig> or rather wouldn't let me start a gnome session
[03:48] <Jbirk> http://www.debianadmin.com/install-firefox2-in-ubuntu-and-list-of-recomended-addons.html
[03:48] <kaoz> hehe oh didnt know he was tryin to mod a config dir
[03:48] <SurfnKid> !openoffice
[03:48] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[03:48] <tritium> bruenig: don't do that
[03:48] <maul555> !ati
[03:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:48] <burepe> Peebo: where is httpd.conf
[03:48] <bruenig> tritium, yes I know, I am advocating against it
[03:48] <kaoz> jordan is it ok if I PM you?
[03:48] <svish> WOW. that was a loooooooong list of choices I have NO idea what meant, lol
[03:48] <Peebo> burepe try locate httpd.conf on Fedore it's /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf
[03:49] <Jordan_U> kaoz: It is fine with me but I believe it is against #ubuntu guidelines
[03:49] <svish> well... some of them I know.. but yeah... how do I know that I havent messed up my ubuntu?
[03:49] <tirus89> h3xis, is edgy the same as dapper?
[03:49] <tritium> Peebo: look under /etc/apache or /etc/apache2
[03:49] <h3xis> tirus89, um sort of.
[03:49] <tritium> tirus89: no
[03:50] <tirus89> h3xis, give me some minor things
[03:50] <h3xis> tirus89, supported hardware for one
[03:50] <tirus89> ok
[03:50] <jasin> hi
[03:50] <AnthonyG> It's been erm, A month or two.
[03:50] <burepe> Peebo: no it doesn't
[03:50] <tirus89> h3xis, will edgy still install xubuntu?
[03:50] <burepe> should I just add that line?
[03:50] <AnthonyG> I still haven't got that modem working XD
[03:50] <svish> !ati
[03:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:50] <jasin> I can't view quicktime video
[03:51] <Peebo> burepe your looking for a line:     Include somepath/*.conf
[03:51] <h3xis> tirus89, xubuntu is a diff distro
[03:51] <ctothej> what is /proc/asound/modules supposed to have?
[03:51] <kitche> tirus89: edgy is pretty much just updated software and there is a xubuntu-desktop for edgy
[03:51] <tritium> tirus89: xubuntu is available in edgy, sure
[03:51] <GuerrillaWon> I do I see account user groups
[03:51] <GuerrillaWon> ?
[03:51] <tirus89> i can still do the "upgrade" through edgy right?
[03:51] <h3xis> yes
[03:51] <tirus89> sweet
[03:51] <tritium> h3xis: no, xubuntu-desktop will give him xubuntu
[03:51] <kitche> h3xis: well it's not a diff distro actually just the desktop environment is different
[03:51] <burepe> Peebo: that line is not there
[03:51] <tirus89> cause this comp is crap
[03:51] <h3xis> kitche, well yeah
[03:51] <kaoz> !ok jordan i sent you a pm
[03:52] <jasin> Thw Ati x server is in the add/remove, applications .. add/remove
[03:52] <Peebo> try adding this line to http.conf                             Include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.conf
[03:52] <tirus89> the environment is diff, cause doesnt xubuntu use the kde desktop?
[03:52] <kitche> tirus89: that's kubuntu
[03:52] <bruenig> xubuntu - xfce
[03:52] <h3xis> it uses xfce
[03:52] <Peebo> !gnome
[03:52] <jasin> xubuntu usses xfce
[03:52] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[03:52] <No1Bri> anyone know how to fix xserver failed to load when installing 6.10?
[03:52] <tritium> Peebo: that's not how you should enable mods in debian/ubuntu
[03:52] <Jordan_U> kaoz: I didn't get it, I think you need to register your nick
[03:52] <kaoz> jasin was that directed at me?
[03:52] <tirus89> oh, ok, then all the 40 laptops at my school got kubuntu
[03:52] <kaoz> how do i register?
[03:53] <svish> is it possible to somehow.. do the autoconfigstuff that the ubuntuinstaller did?
[03:53] <bruenig> kaoz, /msg Nickserv register password
[03:53] <tritium> Peebo: there are subdirectories under /etc/apache for available modules and enabled modules
[03:53] <tirus89> !kde
[03:53] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[03:53] <jasin> yep
[03:53] <Peebo> tritium he's not trying to eanble modules
[03:53] <tirus89> !Xfce
[03:53] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[03:53] <Soshan> Hi, I would liek to remove flashplayer 7 but I do not know what is the exact name of the package to be able to remove it with apt0get. How can i find the package name ?
[03:53] <Peebo> tritium: HE told me that was the path to php.conf
[03:53] <No1Bri> im trying to do a fresh install and I cant because xserver keeps failing to load and I dont know what to do :(
[03:53] <tritium> Peebo: okay
[03:54] <jasin> kubuntu usses kdem, not xubuntu
[03:54] <jasin> !kubuntu
[03:54] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[03:54] <bruenig> what the hell is usses
[03:54] <tritium> bruenig: easy there
[03:54] <mcphail> Peebo: php.ini, surely?
[03:54] <shooters> HI, I would like to combine the 1st cluster of a file with the remaining clusters of another file (first cluster is corrupted, so I need to retrieve it from a partial file)... How do I do that?
[03:54] <kitche> Soshan: it's flash-nonfree
[03:55] <gop> !kde
[03:55] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[03:55] <jasin> !kubuntu
[03:55] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[03:55] <Soshan> Kitche: alright ill try that. thanks
[03:55] <tirus89> im hoping linux has something similar to notepad right?
[03:55] <jasin> gop, yep :)
[03:55] <gop> yep what
[03:55] <gop> hi
[03:55] <h3xis> tirus89, yes
[03:55] <jasin> tir, gedit is just like notepad
[03:55] <Peebo> mcphail: maybe I've been a RedHAt/Fedora user for 10 years and slackware for 1 year before that. Debian/Ubuntu user for 2 days.
[03:55] <meow^> hello, i've got a fresh install of ubuntu and it mounts my ntfs partitions. however i can no longer boot windows. i'm trying to edit the menu.lst following the wiki for 6.10 but how do i find out the hda number to use. whats the command?
[03:55] <GuerrillaWon> tirus - gedit
[03:55] <tirus89> h3xis, how similar?
[03:55] <jasin> !gedit
[03:55] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[03:56] <xtknight> does anyone here have a jmicron controller and is having problems with their CD drives causing ubuntu to freeze?
[03:56] <Soshan> kitches: couldnt find package flash-nonfree. Any other idea ?
[03:56] <h3xis> tirus89, um well you can type stuff
[03:56] <tritium> Soshan: flashplugin-nonfree is the name
[03:56] <tirus89> h3xis, good enuf for me
[03:56] <Soshan> Tritium: ok ill try that
[03:56] <magic_ninja> my cdrom won't read any cd type but cds i have burned...do you guys have any ideas?
[03:56] <jasin> !gedit | tirtium
[03:56] <ubotu> tirtium: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[03:56] <gop> !c++
[03:56] <tritium> jasin: ?
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <Peebo> burepe: do a   #locate php.ini
[03:56] <magic_ninja> !html
[03:56] <jasin> tritium, yes?
[03:56] <Vuen> !gcc>gop
[03:56] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[03:57] <tirus89> whats the advantages of edubuntu?
[03:57] <tritium> jasin: see your comment above (!gedit | tirtium)
[03:57] <gop> oh I see
[03:57] <gop> thanks
[03:57] <jasin> its locate not #locate
[03:57] <Peebo> burepe: Also grep http.conf for php.ini
[03:57] <magic_ninja> tirus89: edubuntu is for classroom use primarily
[03:57] <tirus89> oh ok
[03:57] <Soshan> Getting an error message while running apt-get remove. somthing about l3 permission.
[03:57] <Soshan> don't wanna spam the chat with it hehe
[03:57] <tritium> Soshan: right, use pastebin
[03:57] <h3xis> Soshan, you using sudo?
[03:57] <kitche> Soshan: you remembering to use sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree?
[03:57] <gop> why does vmware dhcp keep asking me question
[03:58] <jasin> tritium, thats a bot command, it brought up:  tirtium: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly).
[03:58] <Soshan> yes i am using sudo
[03:58] <gop> about setting up a network everytime I do a apt
[03:58] <gop> apt-get install
[03:58] <gop> or use gui to install updates
[03:58] <tritium> jasin: I'm familiar with ubotu's commands, but why did you pipe it to me?
[03:58] <burepe> Peebo: there are a lot of the php.ini files
[03:58] <jasin> tritium, you asked about notepad
[03:58] <Soshan> Tritium pastebin ?
[03:58] <xtknight> oh man my CPU temps are 98C, what the..
[03:58] <tritium> jasin: no, I did not
[03:58] <Soshan> kitches: that is exzaclty what i type yup
[03:58] <tirus89> h3xis, yesh, 1 hour
[03:58] <burepe> Peebo: alos I am not familar with grep can you give me the command. grep http.conf ?
[03:58] <Peebo> burepe: how did the Include line I gave you for the httpd.conf file go ?
[03:58] <tritium> !pastebin > Soshan
[03:58] <jasin> xtknight, wow
[03:58] <h3xis> kk
[03:59] <xtknight> this happened again!
[03:59] <xtknight> 97C yesterday
[03:59] <jasin> xtknight, you better get a new heatsink/fan
[03:59] <gop> !blackbox > gop
[03:59] <jasin> tritium, ok
[03:59] <xtknight> jasin: sigh, yup i had better
[03:59] <Peebo> burepe:    grep php.ini httpd.conf               cd to the httpd.conf directory first
[03:59] <Soshan> !pastebin > Soshan
[03:59] <xtknight> probably zalman cnps 9500, i think itll do better
[03:59] <magic_ninja> xtknight: and a good thermal paste, pay the extra money its worth it
[03:59] <jasin> tritium, tirus did
[03:59] <xtknight> i regret not putting artctic silver 5 on it
[04:00] <magic_ninja> heatsink/fan is not something to skimp on
[04:00] <xtknight> i forgot to order it
[04:00] <burepe> I was asking if I should add it but you didn't say for sure so I didn't. So i should add  that line to httpd.conf?
[04:00] <mcphail> Peebo: what is it you are trying to do, exactly?
[04:00] <xtknight> so i wont make the same mistake tihs time
[04:00] <tritium> jasin: yep
[04:00] <jasin> tirus, check out gedit.
[04:00] <xtknight> brb cooling down
[04:00] <gop> what version of ubuntu is good for a 1.2 ghz amd 128 mb 64 mb video
[04:00] <gop> computer
[04:00] <jasin> xtknight, you better get a new heatsink/fan
[04:00] <jdhoreotg> Xubuntu
[04:00] <Soshan> !pastebin
[04:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:00] <gop> 128 mb of ram
[04:00] <xtknight> jasin: will do
[04:00] <magic_ninja> gop the latest should run fine
[04:00] <burepe> Peebo: sorry I missed that line
[04:00] <gop> jdhoreotg,  does it come with office
[04:00] <gop> and gaim
[04:00] <jasin> gop, ubuntu 6.10 eddgy
[04:00] <jdhoreotg> no, but you can apt-get it
[04:00] <magic_ninja> gop: yes sir
[04:00] <adam989712> #ubuntu
[04:01] <Peebo> burepe grep will list every line of httpd.conf that has a line that icludes the text php.ini    if it does not return anything the is no php.ini line in the file
[04:01] <jdhoreotg> hey, adam
[04:01] <Peebo> burepe:    grep php.ini httpd.conf               cd to the httpd.conf directory first
[04:01] <jasin> gop, if you want speed try xubuntu, even though ubuntu will work with those specs
[04:01] <adam989712> yo jeff
[04:01] <gop> jasin,  even with 128 mb
[04:01] <gop> jasin,  so gnome will run good
[04:01] <jasin> gop, yep
[04:01] <gop> Some throw away such a system in my condo
[04:01] <adam989712> what is a good screen capture (video) program??
[04:01] <gop> and I going to fix it up and give to a friend
[04:01] <tritium> gop: xfce would run better
[04:01] <burepe> Peebo: It says there are not any of that file
[04:01] <tritium> gop: (i.e., try xubuntu)
[04:02] <Peebo> mcphail: burepe has a web site that has phtml in it but apache does not know how to hadle it so asks the client to save it to disk
[04:02] <zero_one> I am having some troubles with the side scroll bar on my Dell Inspiron 6000, running Edgy. For a while it would work and I could use the bottom and right sides of my touchpad to scroll rather than moving the mouse cursor, but suddenly (i think after installing some updates) it no longer worked anymore and my touchpad moved so slow that it was rendered essentially useless. I read up on the forums and was able to configure my xorg.conf so that the mouse moves
[04:02] <zero_one>  at a different speed but now my side scrolls still don't work. Whenever I try to run gsynaptics, i get the error that it couldn't initialize and to set SHMConfig to true or XF86Config to use GSynaptics. In xorg.conf, SHMConfig is set to true. How can I modify xorg.conf to make my touchpad work. Is there some way to automatically have ubuntu reset the xorg.conf and generate a new one?
[04:02] <gop> tritium,  I will do so
[04:02] <tritium> zero_one: cut taht out
[04:02] <jdhoreotg> adam989712, vnc2swf and democorder can both do it, but they barely work
[04:02] <tritium> s/taht/that
[04:02] <Soshan> Alright here's my error message for those interested http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/414/
[04:02] <mcphail> Peebo: "sudo a2enmod php4" will sort that. Restart apache after that
[04:02] <gop> and what up it working with an ipod
[04:02] <gop> like if said friend wanted to use his ipod
[04:02] <mcphail> Peebo: (or php5)
[04:02] <gop> and put music
[04:03] <burepe> Peebo I did that commadn and it just returned
[04:03] <Peebo> burepe: that's ok
[04:03] <gop> k thanks
[04:03] <Peebo> burepe did you get mcphails msg to me ?
[04:03] <Peebo> burepe: "sudo a2enmod php4" will sort that. Restart apache
[04:03] <Peebo> or hph5
[04:03] <Peebo> or php5
[04:04] <gop> my last question
[04:04] <gop> why does vmplayer
[04:04] <gop> keep asking me this
[04:04] <gop> The file /etc/vmware/vmnet8/dhcpd/dhcpd.conf that this program was about to
[04:04] <gop> install already exists.  Overwrite?
[04:04] <gop> everytime I do apt-get install
[04:04] <Lierodeath> Hey there
[04:04] <gop> it probes for unused subnet is so annoying
[04:04] <Lierodeath> Anyone willing to lend a hand to an Ubuntu noob?
[04:05] <rbil> !ask
[04:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:05] <Lierodeath> Ok
[04:05] <burepe> peebo sorry I got lost in there. You want me to add this line    Include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.conf to httpd.conf or http.conf?
[04:05] <Peebo> mcphail: Ideas on how to change the backward Yank date format! to DDMMYYYY
[04:05] <Aggrav8d> hello.  i've run apt-get update but I still can't install sendmail in Edgy - claims there is no installation candidate.  Anyone know why?
[04:05] <Peebo> burepe: STOP ALL   try this
[04:05] <Lierodeath> I just installed Edgy Eft on the box I put together earlier today. Everything worked fine, but the screen res and refresh was low
[04:06] <ikehack> Going mad, what is the next version of Ubuntu called, I cant remember?
[04:06] <Peebo> burepe: "sudo a2enmod php4" will sort that. Restart apache:                 or php5 instead of 4
[04:06] <Lierodeath> So I installed the standard 64-bit nVidia drivers. Which killed X
[04:06] <Aggrav8d> ikehack - edgy is the latest release
[04:06] <MarcC> Lierodeath: is it possible that Edgy eft doesn't know your monitor's horizontal and vertical refresh settings?
[04:06] <ikehack> I know I use it
[04:06] <ikehack> but I heard something about a new one
[04:06] <blameless> ikehack: fiesty fawn?
[04:06] <ikehack> YEAH
[04:06] <lwizardl> hi
[04:06] <ikehack> Fiesty
[04:06] <tritium> blameless: feisty
[04:06] <blameless> oh yes
[04:06] <zero_one> can someone help me with my xorg.conf?
[04:06] <burepe> Peebo: that is done. I did it before and it didn't fix the problem
[04:06] <burepe> those 2 commands
[04:06] <Lierodeath> MarcC: Would that stop X from booting?
[04:07] <ikehack> its OpenGL?
[04:07] <Peebo> OK hold
[04:07] <ikehack> effects?
[04:07] <MarcC> Lierodeath: usually if X doesn't boot and you installed NVidia drivers, it means there is a kernel/driver version mismatch or such
[04:07] <mcphail> burepe: does /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.conf have the line "AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3"?
[04:07] <lwizardl> I have a couple folders that refuse to delete from within ssh what command from within terminal as root do I need to remove a folder and all files inside
[04:07] <MarcC> Lierodeath: which X error did you get?
[04:07] <Lierodeath> MarcC: What can I do to fix this?
[04:08] <lwizardl> my old joomla cms folder keeps telling me permission denied
[04:08] <kitche> lwizardl: rm -r dir
[04:08] <ikehack> Im downloading the DVD ISO for this Distro called "sabayon linux" because it has Beryl pre-installed
[04:08] <MarcC> Lierodeath: how did you install the nvidia drivers?
[04:08] <Aggrav8d> I've run apt-get update but I still can't install sendmail in Edgy - claims there is no installation candidate.  Anyone know why?
[04:08] <_aa-> hello
[04:08] <ikehack> and honestly ive done everything in my power to get it running on Ubuntu and i cant seem to
[04:08] <kitche> lwizardl: if it says permission denied they probably permissions are wrong on it
[04:08] <Lierodeath> MarcC: Can we take this off channel?
[04:09] <lwizardl> kitche: thanks but its already been chmodded to 777
[04:09] <gaten> is there anyway to tell if the mysql server is linked statically in the LAMP installation on ubuntu server?
[04:09] <MarcC> Lierodeath: done, check query
[04:09] <kitche> lwizardl: umm doesn'tmean your the owner of it though
[04:09] <_aa-> if anyone has a second i have a question regarding configuring a wireless USB device (figuring out which piece of hardware i have)
[04:09] <Peebo> burepe: Did you get mcphails last msg ?
[04:09] <mikkafi> for nvidia hardware acceleration do "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" + sudo nvidia-glx-config enable! =)
[04:09] <GuerrillaWon> If a process freezes up how do I kill it?
[04:09] <ikehack> xkill?
[04:10] <burepe> no
[04:10] <GuerrillaWon> Not sure. I'd assume identify process id then kill that id.
[04:10] <GuerrillaWon> But can't remember or find exact commands.
[04:10] <mcphail> GuerrillaWon: "kill PID". If that doesn't work, "kill -9 PID"
[04:10] <tritium> kill and pkill work
[04:10] <burepe> Peebo had to identify
[04:11] <mikkafi> i am thinking about getting a hd-installable media box. what is the best choice today?
[04:11] <Peebo> OK Mcphail has the low down on Ubuntu setup  look for his messages
[04:11] <gaten> GuerrillaWon:  sudo ps aux|grep <name>
[04:11] <Peebo> mcphail: burepe: does /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.conf have the line "AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3"?
[04:11] <tritium> gaten: pkill is more efficient for that
[04:11] <jasin> insert the cd, click in stall
[04:11] <GuerrillaWon> How do I list pids?
[04:11] <rbil> GuerrillaWon: if u know the name of the program running, u can do a killall <progname>
[04:11] <jasin> its just that simple, it really is
[04:11] <tritium> GuerrillaWon: ps
[04:11] <GuerrillaWon> ahh ok
[04:11] <GuerrillaWon> Thanks again.
[04:11] <keir> is there any way to figure out what flags an edgy package is compiled with? i need to find out of the edgy myth packages have lirc native support built in
[04:12] <Aggrav8d> I've run apt-get update but I still can't install sendmail in Edgy - claims there is no installation candidate.  Anyone know why?
[04:12] <Peebo> GuerrillaWon: if that don't work do a killall -9 process name
[04:12] <svish> What is "kernel framebuffer device interface"?
[04:12] <kitche> !sendmail
[04:12] <ubotu> sendmail: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.13.8-2 (edgy), package size 191 kB, installed size 248 kB
[04:12] <tritium> keir: lirc is separate from mythtv
[04:12] <GuerrillaWon> hmm can't find the process name
[04:12] <kitche> Aggrav8d: do you have universe enabled
[04:12] <Aggrav8d> universe?
[04:12] <Flav> anyone know a guide for upgrading sarge to dapper drake?  so far i only found one thread where a guy said trying the "normal" route of just apt.sources changes and update/upgrade/dist-upgrade broke for him with a busted python
[04:12] <mikkafi> svish i think it has something to do with your graphics card
[04:12] <Peebo> GuerrillaWon: ps auxw |less
[04:13] <tritium> Flav: that's not a recommended upgrade path
[04:13] <Aggrav8d> !universe
[04:13] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:13] <Aggrav8d> kitche - universe is not on by default?
[04:13] <Flav> tritium: what, if any, ubuntu version is recommended as an upgrade from sarge?
[04:13] <kitche> svish: makes terminal nice and easy to read without it the terminal is sorta plain and it's need to use usplash and other splash
[04:13] <rbil> GuerrillaWon:  u can also kill a process within top. see man top for info
[04:13] <Peebo> GuerrillaWon: If you can't work out the porcess name do a kill "process-id"   whithout the quotes
[04:13] <kitche> Aggrav8d: no
[04:13] <svish> mikkafi: yes it does. the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg asks me about it
[04:13] <mikkafi> svish but even in console those commands i just wrote will give you true hardware acceleration with nvidia drivers which accomplice the boot bc
[04:13] <tritium> Flav: none
[04:13] <mikkafi> cd
[04:13] <jasin> you can get sendmail off of synaptic
[04:14] <keir> tritium, there is a compile option to add native lirc support to myth with no external programs
[04:14] <kitche> jasin: he knows he doesn't have universe enabled
[04:14] <svish> kitche: so I should answer yes when it asks me if I want to use it?
[04:14] <keir> tritium, independent of irxevent
[04:14] <Peebo> or kill -9     if it refuses to die
[04:14] <keir> tritium, i just want to find out if the edgy packages have that turned on
[04:14] <jasin> kitche, that son him then.
[04:14] <jasin> kitche, thats on him then.
[04:14] <tritium> keir: you can always apt-get source mythv, and check for yourself
[04:14] <rbil> GuerrillaWon: u can also use System Monitor to have a gui listing of processes and end a process in there
[04:14] <Peebo> burepe: where U at with Apache
[04:14] <rbil> GuerrillaWon: many ways to kill a process
[04:14] <lwizardl> kitche: thanks for the help
[04:14] <mikkafi> svish and solve a possible xorg drivers contradiction
[04:14] <GuerrillaWon> ok got it
[04:14] <GuerrillaWon> thanks
[04:15] <Peebo> :)
[04:15] <kitche> svish: well that's up to you but I usually have it on
[04:15] <burepe> Peebo: what do you mean. just here same thing.
[04:15] <Aggrav8d> kitche - found the doccos on universe, updating now.  thanks!
[04:15] <Peebo> mcphail: U still here ?
[04:15] <DanaG> *** stack smashing detected ***: nvclock_gtk terminated
[04:15] <DanaG> Aborted (core dumped)
[04:15] <svish> What should I write for "Please selevt the XKB rule set to use." ?
[04:15] <mikkafi> danag so you wanna overclock your card? bad idea.
[04:16] <DanaG> No, I just want to watch the temperature.
[04:16] <DanaG> nvidia-settings gives me nothing.
[04:16] <mikkafi> svish nodeadkeys will do
[04:16] <svish> mikkafi: what does that do?
[04:16] <DanaG> Oh, and why is there no US-International nodeadkeys?
[04:16] <vinboy> i use vmware-workstation 5.5, how do I create a network bridge for the guest OS on the wireless ethernet??
[04:16] <keir> tritium, but how? i've never compiled packages; for me, you do ./configure --with-compile-flagX --with-compile-flag-Y --...., and the flags are not actually saved.
[04:16] <Peebo> burepe: does /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.conf have the line "AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3"?
[04:17] <wunderbar> hey all, I have a question/problem with the 6.10 live CD.
[04:17] <mikkafi> svish i think that was the keyboard variant, sorry, but you really dont need anything special there
[04:17] <tritium> keir: inspect the source after you download it
[04:17] <rbil> vinboy: with vmplayer I use NAT, so that should work in WS 5.5
[04:17] <Flav> tritium: if you don't mind, i'm kinda curious - why is the upgrade path from sarge so broken/difficult/impossible?
[04:17] <mikkafi> svish a new keyboard is pc105 in europe
[04:17] <wunderbar> I'm trying to run it on my desktop, but when it's loading gnome, it hangs.
[04:17] <vinboy> rbil: oh ic.. let me try that.. thank  you
[04:17] <burepe> Peebo: yeah
[04:17] <svish> mikkafi: I have a laptop, so.. what keyboard then? norwegian
[04:18] <Peebo> burepe: did it include the .phtml bit ?
[04:18] <tritium> Flav: they're different distributions, with different package versions and dependencies.  It'll just get messy.
[04:18] <wunderbar> the gnome/ubuntu splash screen is distorted, and it won't load the gui
[04:18] <brainformat> has anyone tried to set philips SAA7133/SAA7135  tv card on ubuntu ?
[04:18] <mikkafi> svish the options are pc101 for old american, pc102 for modern american, pc 103 for standard europe and pc105 for modern europe..i think 105 would work
[04:19] <_aa-> anyone know much about getting wireless devices to work with ndiswrapper? i am convinced i know which driver i need but after i install the driver it can't find the hardware
[04:19] <svish> mikkafi: ok. What about the variant then?
[04:19] <burepe> Peebo: yeah
[04:19] <DanaG> Hmm, about ndiswrapper:
[04:19] <DanaG> make sure ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 is installed.
[04:19] <Lierodeath> MarcC: Did you get the stuff I sent you off-channel?
[04:20] <DanaG> For some reason Edgy doesn't install it.
[04:20] <Peebo> burepe: try adding .PHTML
[04:20] <MarcC> Lierodeath: nope, sorry?
[04:20] <mikkafi> svish that is the variant and the rule set needs not much but nodeadkeys might improve the keyboard..for me the tilde needs alt+2 keys without it
[04:20] <_aa-> ok lemme try that DanaG
[04:20] <_aa-> DanaG: utils is installed
[04:20] <Lierodeath> Marc: You asked if I was there. I assume you can't see anything I PMed you?
[04:20] <DanaG> I'm sure there's a how-to somewhere.
[04:20] <brainformat>  has anyone tried to set philips SAA7133/SAA7135  tv card on ubuntu ?
[04:21] <svish> mikkafi: yeah, but if I have nodeadkeys, will I be able to write  for instance? or ?
[04:21] <DanaG> And you may have to blacklist the 'normal' driver for the wireless card family.
[04:21] <MarcC> Lierodeath: have you registered your IRC nick/signed in?
[04:21] <burepe> Peebo: ok
[04:21] <MarcC> Lierodeath: if not I won't see your pms
[04:21] <Lierodeath> MarC: I haven't registered my nick - I didn't realise I needed to. As for signing in, what do you mean?
[04:21] <mikkafi> svish are you instaling debian perharps?
[04:21] <Lierodeath> Oh. Ok
[04:21] <Lierodeath> How do I do that?
[04:21] <Lierodeath> my bad
[04:21] <MarcC> Lierodeath: /msg nickserv identify typepasswordhere
[04:21] <Flav> tritium: i had upgraded from woody to warty fine in the past (on a different machine
[04:21] <_aa-> DanaG: Ya I'm looking at it-- I know my device ID is 1915:2234 b/c I just compared a lsusb with it in and out and found it that way... how do you blacklist a driver and how could I find which driver that would be?
[04:22] <Peebo> burepe: no that didn't work either
[04:22] <Flav> tritium: ) so it just kinda surprised me.  thanks, though
[04:22] <MarcC> Lierodeath: just pick any password
[04:22] <DanaG> lsmod can tell you what modules are loaded.
[04:22] <Lierodeath> Done
[04:22] <Lierodeath> Now what?
[04:22] <MarcC> try PMing me again
[04:22] <burepe> Peebo: naw
[04:22] <Lierodeath> "(16:22:24) NickServ: (notice) The nickname [Lierodeath]  is not registered"
[04:22] <DanaG> But I don't know how to find which module claims a certain device.
[04:22] <MarcC> Lierodeath: /join #aoi
[04:22] <svish> mikkafi: no, im going through the reconfigure server-xorg thingy. my ubuntu flipped out after atidrivers. so I had to go through it in the revovery mode, but I have no idea if I did it right. im in again as I should be, but I go through it again to be sure I did right. Cause I dont know what half of them settings is..
[04:23] <_aa-> ok
[04:23] <_aa-> i'll do some googling
[04:23] <_aa-> thanks DanaG
[04:23] <Peebo> burepe: I know Apache and RedHat. I've only been 2 days with the Ubuntu debian distro and there are lots of differences.
[04:23] <DanaG> !ndiswrapper
[04:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:23] <Peebo> burepe: Once I install it myself on an Ubuntu box I'll know more.
[04:23] <burepe> Its ok. I think I am gonna give up for the time being. thanks though
[04:24] <marcus_> how does one upgrade distributions?
[04:24] <meow^> i'm having trouble editting grub menu.lst to add my windows partition
[04:24] <Peebo> burepe: the Ubuntu server CD just finished downloading so I may try it tonight or on Saturday
[04:24] <tritium> Flav: it _can_ work, but it can also go very badly
[04:24] <marcus_> !upgrade
[04:24] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:24] <svish> And with a laptop touchpad... how do I know if ImPS/2 or ExplorerPS/2 describes my mouse the best??
[04:24] <meow^> its on hda5 so i use (hd0,4) but i get an error 13
[04:24] <Peebo> burepe: Keep an eye in here. When I have success I'll let you know.
[04:25] <mikkafi> svish good now i think you are home free
[04:25] <Peebo> Ok gotta go do some wurk.  Doh !
[04:25] <meow^> it seems to be an extended partition, any ideas on what i should be using?
[04:25] <Flecha> Hi, What code i need to use in shell to select java ? (i want to install Looking Glass)
[04:25] <NkuMike> Hey does anyone know of a remote desktop app ?
[04:25] <svish> mikkafi: no I dont know what to choose for the mouse
[04:25] <mikkafi> svish ps/2 should work for anything to gues
[04:25] <svish> both are ps/2, hehe. one is ImPS/2 and the other is ExplorerPS/2
[04:25] <mikkafi> svish try it out
[04:26] <Flav> tritium: cool - the machine's just a server (no X/GNOME/KDE/etc) so I'm going to give it a shot.  Thanks for the warning :)
[04:26] <DanaG> I use evdev in xorg.
[04:26] <DanaG> Mosue is Logitech MX700.
[04:26] <mikkafi> svish intellimouse is just a basic microsoft model for a mouse. does your mouse say "intellimousee" on top, lol =)
[04:27] <marcus_> !upgrade
[04:27] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:27] <mikkafi> svish for example i have the wireless intellimouse optical 2.0
[04:27] <svish> mikkafi: its a touhpad :P it doesnt say anything lol. so Explorer is what I should go for then? Im is IntelliMouse?
[04:28] <svish> mikkafi: those two are the only two choices you see... =/
[04:28] <burepe> Peebo: thanks
[04:28] <adam98971> ok everyone whats your favorite ubuntu game !!!
[04:28] <adam98971> go!!
[04:28] <Ice_Wewe> can anyone tell me which QT package I have to install to be able to make xconfig?
[04:28] <Ice_Wewe> 6.10, Edgy Eft
[04:28] <mikkafi> svish do a man xorg.conf and do experement
[04:29] <Ice_Wewe> I've already installed almost every package that is even remotely related to QT, and it still won't make the xconfig!
[04:29] <svish> mikkafi: didnt know confs had manpages O.o
[04:29] <svish> mikkafi: wow that was a LONG one
[04:30] <mikkafi> svish some do
[04:30] <Flecha> Hi, What code i need to use in shell to select java ? (i want to install Looking Glass) (i am from brasil and dont know write english well)
[04:30] <DanaG> Evdev is rather simple to set up.
[04:30] <Ice_Wewe> anyone know what QT package actually contains QT?
[04:30] <DanaG> Just 4 lines.
[04:31] <DanaG> Identifier, driver, sendcoreevents (if applicable), and Option "Name"
[04:31] <blanky> !java | Flecha
[04:31] <ubotu> Flecha: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:31] <cafuego_> Ice_Wewe: libqt3-mt
[04:31] <DanaG> Section "InputDevice"  ||  Identifier     "Logitech Mouse"  ||  Driver         "evdev"  ||  Option         "SendCoreEvents" "true"  ||  Option         "Name" "Logitech *"  ||  EndSection
[04:31] <cafuego_> or perhaps libqt4-core
[04:31] <Ice_Wewe> cafuego: thanks
[04:31] <DanaG> Note that || denotes line break.
[04:32] <Flav> anyone remember the name of the program/script that tells you which lib* dpkg's you have installed aren't needed any more?
[04:32] <Flav> ah, deborphan
[04:32] <Ice_Wewe> cafuego: thank you so much! It was the former that I needed. The latter was already installed.
[04:33] <opteek> i have an onboard sound card and an sblive platinum ct4760p which im using, /dev/dsp is my onboard, how can i find out which device corresponds to my sblive card?
[04:33] <rubbrduckie> anyone know anything about vncrack?
[04:33] <cafuego_> opteek: /dev/dsp1
[04:33] <cafuego_> opteek: Mind you, Ubuntu uses ALSA, which is controlled via the SOund prefs and Mixer prefs.
[04:34] <DanaG> opteek: aplay -l
[04:34] <DanaG> (lowercase L)
[04:34] <Ice_Wewe> opteek: the /dev/dsp is just an alsa dummy for applications that still use ALSA
[04:34] <Ice_Wewe> opteek: sorry, ...for applications that still use OSS
[04:34] <svish> mikkafi: ok I just cant figure anything out in the manpage.. so went for the explorer one.. do you know which server modules I should choose then? all is marked except record and dbe..
[04:35] <twisties> !beryl
[04:35] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:35] <beck_> Hey...
[04:35] <opteek> awesome, ty cafuego and Ice_Wewe
[04:35] <beck_> Need some help.
[04:36] <beck_> !Java
[04:36] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:37] <svish> mikkafi: did you answer me? irc closed on me... is it smart to attempt monitor autodetection?
[04:37] <mrcucumber> I have a bluetooth mouse (logitech mx900) that I can sucessfully use in linux by typing "sudo hidd --search" and holding down the search button on the mouse, but after the mouse goes to sleep it disconnects untill I do the same opperation, I have it previously automatically paring in dapper before, but I don't remeber how to do it.
[04:37] <markoutthere> Hey all, quick question. I am trying to connect to a share on my Ubuntu box from XP Pro, I created the share and installed SAMBA. What is the format I should use to connect to the share, I am new to the linux world
[04:37] <Flecha> i have 2 java... 1 is the sun-java5-jre and the other is j2re... i need select the sun-java5.... but dont know how
[04:38] <pussfeller> !xgl
[04:38] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:38] <eimajenthat> how do I flush the dns cache?
[04:38] <beck_> Hmmm.
[04:38] <bimberi> Flecha: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:38] <guillote_GNU> markoutthere, u mean the protocol? it uses smb
[04:39] <Flecha> bimberi thanks
[04:39] <bimberi> Flecha: yw :)
[04:40] <eimajenthat> I'm trying to ping my web site, but the ping is pointed at the old IP.  I want it to clear the DNS and get the domain to point to the right ip.  How do I clear the dns cache?
[04:40] <markoutthere> guillote_GNU No I mean from windows to windows I would type \\ipaddress\share followed by domain\username and the password I am just not sure what to use in linux language
[04:41] <mikkafi> svish why not. if you dont happen to have horizontal+vertical refresh rates, resolution and graphics driver name listed
[04:41] <mikkafi> svish a little breather
[04:41] <svish> mikkafi: Write monitor sync ranges to configuration file?
[04:42] <beck_> What does ALT+CTRL+DEL do in Ubuntu? I don't want to do it in case it does something bad. xD
[04:42] <TangBaBa> Hi ya. Can anyone help me with setting gxine as the default media player? I believe my configuration currently has Totem as the default.
[04:42] <DanaG> ctrl-alt-del reboots.
[04:42] <beck_> TangBaBa: Go to preferences
[04:42] <DanaG> Though it does do normal shutdown first.
[04:42] <computer> i tried to download flightgear from synaptic, it's going at 3kb/sec, why is it this slow
[04:42] <computer> e1
[04:42] <computer> oops
[04:42] <beck_> Then Preferred applications
[04:43] <TangBaBa> Ah! Thanks!!
[04:43] <beck_> :)
[04:43] <LameBMX> h3xis, did that dude come back lol
[04:43] <DanaG> Another thing for default apps:
[04:43] <DanaG> right-click some file of the type you want to set, and select properties.
[04:44] <DanaG> That's where you set what opens it.  It actually makes more sense than Windows, if you think about it.
[04:44] <bimberi> beck_: c-a-d does nothing here (Dapper)
[04:44] <computer13137> Hi.
[04:44] <Becky> Ah.
[04:44] <LameBMX> thanx gw-bush ... i can get an EIN number without residence .. place of business or office in any US state
[04:45] <LameBMX> !offtopic | lamebmx
[04:45] <ubotu> lamebmx: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:45] <guillote_GNU> anyone here uses subversion version of fluxbox?
[04:45] <lightup> Is it possible to get dual monitors set up with an ati graphics card (x1600 pro) and the latest drivers from Alberto Milone's repository?  I had it working with my old nvidia card but have no idea how to set it up with ATI.
[04:46] <Ice_Wewe> lightup: I believe it's possible using Xinrama, but I'm not sure
[04:46] <TangBaBa> Thanks DanaG!
[04:46] <Becky> Is there a way of making Ubuntu division bandwidth so it doesn't use all the bandwidth on my network just downloading updates?
[04:46] <Ice_Wewe> lightup: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors#ATI
[04:47] <computer13137> Becky:  Not that I know of, but you might be able to setup bandwidth limits in your router if you have bandwidth limits like QoS.
[04:47] <Becky> QoS?
[04:48] <Becky> It slows down the other (Windows) computer's internet speed as well as my own.
[04:48] <mikkafi> svish the sync rates are hor+ver and should be described in the conf
[04:48] <computer13137> Becky:  If you don't mind my asking, why does it matter how much bandwidth the downloads use?  Wouldn't it be logical to let them go and get all the updates possible in the shortest time period?
[04:48] <Ice_Wewe> lightup: use that guide. Gentoo guys have to do everything. I used that guide when I was setting up the dual displays on my 6600GT, and later on my 7900GTX
[04:48] <h3xis> LameBMX, yes
[04:48] <Bhaskar> i have install 6.06 ubuntu, and want to install other program but ./configure, make and make install is not functioning why??
[04:49] <LameBMX> h3xis, did it work for him
[04:49] <computer13137> Bhaskar: Try doing a "sudo apt-get install make"
[04:49] <kitche> Bhaskar: did you install build-essential
[04:49] <computer13137> Bhaskar: Sometimes make doesn't seem to come by default.
[04:49] <lightup> Ice_Wewe: That's just what I was looking for, thanks!
[04:49] <Becky> I'm trying to be courteous to the rest of my family. :)
[04:49] <h3xis> LameBMX, he doesnt have edgy d/l yet
[04:49] <Ice_Wewe> Bhaskar: probably because you haven't installed development tools
[04:49] <Ice_Wewe> lightup: hey, Google is your friend
[04:49] <aN1> Gentoo is leet
[04:49] <kitche> computer13137: ubuntu doesn't install any compile tools by default
[04:49] <aN1> too bad im too scared to try it
[04:49] <computer13137> Becky: Suggestion... download at night. :P
[04:49] <Ice_Wewe> lightup: I typed in 'dual display X ATi' and it popped up
[04:50] <Ice_Wewe> aN1: Gentoo is haxx0r
[04:50] <minerale> is video.google.com ?
[04:50] <Becky> Family uses the computer at night as well. :)
[04:50] <lightup> Ice_Wewe: I'd been scouring the ubuntu forums
[04:50] <Becky> I'm 15, so I'm usually not allowed to be up till 3am. xD
[04:50] <LameBMX> h3xis, ahhh ... well at least he popped in ... i have some crappy good memory ..
[04:50] <Ice_Wewe> lightup: yeah, anytime you have a real linux problem, use the Gentoo Wiki
[04:50] <h3xis> haha
[04:50] <LameBMX> well becky in a few years you can bring it over here
[04:50] <Ice_Wewe> Becky: your family uses Linux on it's computer?
[04:50] <[corn] > Hi
[04:51] <lightup> Ice_Wewe: Will do, cheers
[04:51] <Ice_Wewe> lightup: later
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[04:51] <Becky> Ice_Wewe: Nope, I installed it on my laptop yesterday. We have two computers.
[04:51] <Ice_Wewe> pengulord: thanks, you don't want to know what I listen too, please don't tell the rest of the channel
[04:51] <pengulord> lol stfu
[04:52] <Ice_Wewe> Becky: what kind of laptop is it? Ubuntu Edgy is horrible on a PB G4
[04:52] <pengulord> unless a op or hop tells me i wont
[04:52] <pengulord> but ill be nice
[04:52] <[corn] > I'll find out
[04:52] <pengulord> ok tell me what you listen to
[04:52] <Ice_Wewe> pengulord: Matt Darey
[04:52] <Becky> It's a Sony VAIO PCG-FR820, changed to Ubuntu because Windows sucked on it.
[04:52] <pengulord> o ok
[04:52] <Ice_Wewe> pengulord: www.mattdarey.com
[04:52] <pengulord> i think i heard him
[04:52] <LameBMX> Becky, ewwwwwww
[04:52] <Ice_Wewe> pengulord: Armin van Buuren
[04:52] <Becky> And I'm using Dapper anyway.
[04:53] <Ice_Wewe> Becky: I'm not a fan of Sony Vaio's, but if it works.
[04:53] <Ice_Wewe> Becky: Dapper wouldn't install on my PowerBook
[04:53] <LameBMX> sorry one of my contractors has sony warranty work ... did it need a mobo swap yet
[04:53] <LameBMX> :))
[04:53] <Ice_Wewe> Becky: glad to see it works well for you
[04:53] <Becky> It's the best I've got. =)
[04:53] <Ice_Wewe> Becky: I've been using Ubuntu on this PC for 7 months
[04:53] <LameBMX> Becky, actually i dont know offhand if its one of the lines that has mobo issues :/
[04:54] <Becky> Sweet. Two days. I do all the upkeep on this computer.
[04:54] <Becky> Mobo?
[04:54] <Ice_Wewe> Becky: tonight is the first time Edgy went live. I would have used it earlier, but a nasty usb bug sorta kept me back on Dapper
[04:54] <mikkafi> so again, if i would install to hd a linux media center, what is the choice today?
[04:54] <computer13137> Becky: Mother board
[04:54] <Becky> Ah
[04:54] <LameBMX> Becky, motherboard .. part everything plugs into on the inside
[04:54] <Becky> I don't think so... it's battery just sucks
[04:54] <Ice_Wewe> LameBMX: vaguer
[04:54] <Becky> I know what a motherboard is. DUH.
[04:54] <Becky> I might be 15 but I'm not dumb.
[04:54] <LameBMX> Ice_Wewe, what do you mean went live
[04:54] <pengulord> LOL
[04:54] <pengulord> i didnt say you where
[04:55] <LameBMX> Ice_Wewe, and whats that usb bug?
[04:55] <computer13137> Becky?  You can't get PM's?
[04:55] <Ice_Wewe> LameBMX: I mean it was on the HDD, but I wasn't using it
[04:55] <pengulord> but you dumb compared to me lol
[04:55] <LameBMX> Becky, you said mobo?
[04:55] <aN1> Becky get Slax
[04:55] <computer13137> Becky: You have AIM, MSN, or YIM?
[04:55] <LameBMX> i thought it was a question
[04:55] <Ice_Wewe> LameBMX: you unplug or plug in a USB device, and the kernel module khubd goes absolutely bizerk and uses up all your CPU time
[04:55] <LameBMX> ahhhh
[04:55] <Becky> Yeah, I have all those
[04:55] <Ice_Wewe> LameBMX: which is why I'm not touching any of my USB devies
[04:55] <Ice_Wewe> devices*
[04:55] <zhimsel> Does anyone know If it would be bad if I disabled the system and kernel logs from starting at boot? Or at least moved them to the end of the rc order?
[04:55] <computer13137> Becky: What is one?
[04:56] <LameBMX> Ice_Wewe,  oh i got this thing if i wait more than 15sec in grub my boot crashes at USB
[04:56] <Beckeh> *shrugs*
[04:56] <Ice_Wewe> computer13137: yeah, cause she/he is gonna tell the whole room
[04:56] <computer13137> Then I'll tell you.
[04:56] <computer13137> Mine is this name. :P
[04:56] <Beckeh> I'm a she.
[04:56] <Ice_Wewe> LameBMX: you're booting from a USB device?
[04:56] <LameBMX> Ice_Wewe, its a nice complement to the cpu error if i boot it faster than 10 seconds in grub lol
[04:56] <computer13137> All three of them.
[04:56] <mikkafi> i have no problems at all with my a-link wlag54usb adapter, in knoppix that is . someone should make the network graphical interface _work_ again
[04:56] <Ice_Wewe> Beckeh: yeah, I figured with the name
[04:56] <LameBMX> Ice_Wewe, no from a fakeraid array
[04:56] <computer13137> Just stick an <@hotmail.com> after it for MSN.
[04:56] <Ice_Wewe> computer13137: you wanna get her email addr so she'll be sorry she ever talked to you, please do it in a PM
[04:57] <aN1> yeah ino
[04:57] <aN1> lol
[04:57] <Beckeh> xD
[04:57] <aN1> dis is not a dating service
[04:57] <Ice_Wewe> LameBMX: so why don't you just set your grub timer to be less that than
[04:57] <LameBMX> lol
[04:57] <Beckeh> I don't care who has my email address. If I hate them, I'll block em.
[04:57] <LameBMX> its set at 13
[04:57] <Ice_Wewe> aN1: yeah, cause otherwise you would've gotten laid before 32
[04:57] <LameBMX> :)
[04:57] <mikkafi> and what was that stuff about rt2570 buggy in release distro? bad mistake
[04:58] <Ice_Wewe> aN1: (sorry, couldn't resist)
[04:58] <aN1> no no
[04:58] <LameBMX> but that dont change the fact i shouldnt have to boot within a 5 second period of time lol
[04:58] <aN1> that was good i was lauffing hella hard
[04:58] <islan> I'm having an issue with cfdisk deleting a partition but not deleting the files on that partition; how can you reformat it to delete everything?
[04:58] <Beckeh> I think my VAIO is fine for its mobo, back to the other topic. :P
[04:58] <screach> any one know where I can find a different tut for installing wifi on ubuntu I have a dwl-G650  fresh install of 5.10
[04:58] <james296> what file would I have to reinstall to make all the text show in Ubuntu Help Centre as it once was originally from installation?
[04:58] <LameBMX> !wifi | screach
[04:59] <Ice_Wewe> Beckeh: got my PB mobo replaced 11months into owning it. Whenever there was HDD activity, it would make this god aweful squealing noise
[04:59] <ubotu> screach: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:59] <mikkafi> screach saves you lots of trouble to get knoppix and dl suse 10.2 on it and bye bye ubuntu for wireless
[04:59] <Ice_Wewe> leaky capacitor, I think
[04:59] <Beckeh> Oh, yuck.
[04:59] <Ice_Wewe> Yeah.
[04:59] <Ice_Wewe> Hey everyone
[04:59] <Ice_Wewe> I'm a Mac owner
[04:59] <Ice_Wewe> shoot me
[04:59] <Beckeh> Nah, the worst thing about my computer is the RAM and the battery power.
[04:59] <maul555> I need to "Disable fglrx in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common"   but i dont know how
[05:00] <james296> well???
[05:00] <Ice_Wewe> Beckeh: oh yeah, got Apple to replace my defective (also NOT in recall) battery after 11months also... :D
[05:00] <Ice_Wewe> Beckeh: didn't even have to pay shipping
[05:00] <krypto84sv> mmm
[05:00] <Beckeh> Awesome.
[05:00] <maul555> anybody:  I need to "Disable fglrx in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common"   but i dont know how
[05:00] <Jordan_U> maul555: Just comment it out
[05:01] <maul555> its a read only file
[05:01] <Ice_Wewe> so YDL 5.0 for the PS3 includes E17, when is Ubuntu gonna start including my favourite window manager in binary form?
[05:01] <somerville32> !repeat | maul555
[05:01] <Clinton__> !w32codecs
[05:01] <ubotu> maul555: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:01] <screach> ubotu and makkafi ok  thanks for the tips i will see if any of this helps  I am two days and three reinstalls on this
[05:01] <ubotu> and: Auto Nice Daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.2-1.1 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 132 kB
[05:01] <Ice_Wewe> Beckeh: is your battery in the Sony recall?
[05:01] <kitche> Ice_Wewe: when e17 is stable anyways enlightenment is in the repos already
[05:01] <Ice_Wewe> kitche: yeah, but E17 and enlightenment are 2 different beasts
[05:01] <Beckeh> Nah. My parents watched that news report to make sure.
[05:01] <Beckeh> It's not one of the ones that will explode into flames. ;D
[05:01] <DanaG> I got my Gateway notebook as a gift (it HAD to be that brand).  I would've preferred HP.
[05:01] <Jordan_U> maul555: Sorry, I mean add it in the quotes where you see: DISABLED_MODULES=""
[05:02] <Ice_Wewe> kitche: and E17 is stable. Well it was 8 months ago when I was running it on Mandrake
[05:02] <tritium> maul555: you mean you want to blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, or simply not load it at boot, or what?
[05:02] <Ice_Wewe> Beckeh: yeah, well I still think you'd better drop it while running, just to make sure
[05:02] <kitche> Ice_Wewe: I run e17 right now and it still crashes at some points but anyways e17 is enlightenment just the next version of it
[05:02] <Beckeh> What do you mean?
[05:02] <maul555> hang on a sec... leme try something
[05:02] <Ice_Wewe> Beckeh: that's how a lot of the battery accidents happen
[05:02] <tritium> maul555: or, do you just need to revert back to the "ati" driver in your xorg.conf?
[05:03] <Ice_Wewe> Beckeh: lithium in the batteries reacts violently to air
[05:03] <Beckeh> When you drop it? Hell no.
[05:03] <tirus89> h3xis, 15 mins
[05:03] <slicky> hey, i have trubble getting ddclient to update my ip.. it just dosent update.. the config seams right and so..   can it be that dyndns.org wont allow me to update that often?
[05:03] <tirus89> !burniso
[05:03] <ubotu> To burn an ISO image of a CD in Linux, Mac OS or Windows, read the howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[05:03] <Ice_Wewe> Beckeh: if the cell is broken, it will "explode" which basically means 'will vent very very hot gases and other material until the catalyist is used up'
[05:03] <maul555> Jordan_U: I am trying to add it in the quotes where i see disabled moduloes..   but I cant save the changes, and i have no idea how to bring it up from the command line...
[05:03] <Beckeh> Um... right.
[05:04] <DanaG> I'd hope if I ever had battery issues I'd have enough time to eject the battery and throw it somewhere (such as in the bathtub --, with no water, of course.)
[05:04] <Ice_Wewe> Beckeh: some company a couple years back was boasting that you could drive over their cells and they wouldn't blow up...
[05:04] <Jordan_U> tritium: I belive he is following the guide here which has that step https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:04] <h3xis> tirus89, k
[05:04] <h3xis> tirus89, you know how to burn isos right?
[05:04] <mikkafi> see u all later
[05:04] <Ice_Wewe> Beckeh: they even had some lab video of a hammer smashing the competition (it blew up) and smashing their battery (it just shorted out)
[05:04] <Beckeh> But if I drop it, it'll break. And I really can't afford a new battery. =D
[05:04] <tirus89> h3xis ^_^, i will soon
[05:04] <tritium> Jordan_U: but where did he come up with his idea?
[05:04] <screach> is it true that madwifi is preinstalled in ubuntu
[05:04] <Ice_Wewe> Beckeh: how much are new Sony batteries?
[05:04] <slicky> anyone?
[05:05] <Jordan_U> maul555: gksudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[05:05] <Ice_Wewe> screach: I believe it is included with the 2.6.17 kernel
[05:05] <maul555> woah...
[05:05] <tirus89> h3xis, ima dl'ing the iso burner
[05:05] <Beckeh> I have no idea, but if the RAM and the computer itself is anything to go by? Expensive.
[05:05] <h3xis> tirus89, k
[05:05] <e1> what's the firefox extension that downloads youtube videos?
[05:05] <maul555> there needs to be a help file or something to tell people how to do the basic stuff that the help manuals tell you to do
[05:05] <Ice_Wewe> Beckeh: does your laptop use DDR, or DDR2?
[05:05] <Jordan_U> tritium: It is a step in the instructions, he quoted it verbetum, it isn't "his" idea
[05:05] <Beckeh> In its time it probably cost about $2000, it's also second hand, so we got it for $300
[05:05] <Ice_Wewe> does anyone know why K3B still doesn't support DVD DL?
[05:05] <nfl2k2> first time ubuntu installer here -- on step 5/6 where i choose swap space. there is no option to set swap space, what shoud i do?
[05:05] <Beckeh> Um... not sure.
[05:06] <screach> Ice_Wewe is there any way that I can check to see if it is installed before I reinstall again
[05:06] <Beckeh> I think it's just DDR
[05:06] <Ice_Wewe> screach: modprobe madwifi?
[05:06] <screach> ok
[05:06] <rbil> kitche: is there a deb for e17?
[05:06] <Ice_Wewe> Beckeh: yeah, DDR SODIMMS have gone through the roof in prive
[05:06] <Ice_Wewe> price*
[05:06] <kitche> rbil probably think elive is based on ubuntu now but not sure
[05:06] <Beckeh> Yeah
[05:06] <Ice_Wewe> Beckeh: even regular desktop DDR is going through the roof
[05:06] <Beckeh> How're you doing the red text? xP
[05:07] <rbil> kitche: only enlightenment version in the repos here is e16
[05:07] <kitche> nfl2k2: did you make a partition for swap?
[05:07] <Ice_Wewe> Beckeh: 6 months ago, the 2GB dual channel kit I bought was $220 from Newegg with shipping to Hawaii. Now it's $285 before taxes and shipping.
[05:07] <DanaG> Beckeh: lookie on newegg.com
[05:07] <Beckeh> Lazy. :D
[05:07] <DanaG> er, I'm too slow...
[05:07] <nfl2k2> id like to use the partition im installing to, possible?
[05:07] <krypto84sv> alguien programa con mono?
[05:07] <maul555> Jordan_U:  Thx, it worked...   im gona reboot now, wish me luck...
[05:07] <Ice_Wewe> Beckeh: type the first letters of the persons name,then hit tab
[05:07] <kitche> rbil: nope elive is built on debian
[05:07] <Beckeh> Ice_Wewe: Red texttt?
[05:07] <Beckeh> o.o
[05:07] <Beckeh> Didn't work.
[05:07] <Beckeh> xD
[05:07] <Ice_Wewe> holy sweet honey, could this kernel compile any slower?
[05:07] <kitche> rbil: and ubotu doesn't have a link for it either
[05:07] <rbil> kitche: yes, I once ran elive
[05:07] <Ice_Wewe> Beckeh: it did for me
[05:08] <tritium> Jordan_U: oh, I thought he was following the preferred method
[05:08] <Ice_Wewe> Beckeh: it only highlights the text for hte people whos names are mentioned
[05:08] <Beckeh> Ohhh.
[05:08] <Beckeh> I see. xD
[05:08] <Ice_Wewe> Beckeh: which means when I include your name in somehting, it highlights the text for that user
[05:08] <n0yd> Hiya, I just added a printer to my Ubuntu router/file server (6.06) and want to share it out with samba (Already configured to share files), is there a wiki page on doing this? I can't find one... And the piece on ubuntuguide.org didn't work for me (I think it's wrong)
[05:08] <kitche> nfl2k2: well there is you will just have to skip the swap part of the install
[05:08] <Beckeh> Ice_Wewe: Sweet.
[05:09] <Ice_Wewe> n0yd: try this: http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2003-July/070300.html
[05:09] <Ice_Wewe> n0yd: whoops, not gonna help you
[05:09] <Ice_Wewe> n0yd: just use google
[05:09] <n0yd> ya...
[05:09] <n0yd> heh
[05:09] <Jordan_U> tritium: The Ubuntu wiki doesn't even give instructions for installing through apt which is surprising to me as it is so much easier / less error prone
[05:09] <n0yd> I did google ;)
[05:10] <tritium> Jordan_U: it does (scroll down on that same wiki page)
[05:10] <Ice_Wewe> n0yd: then can't help. Don't use samba, don't have any Windows machines
[05:10] <tritium> In fact, that's all it used to say.
[05:10] <tirus89> h3xis, yesh, 5 mins!!!
[05:10] <h3xis> yay
[05:11] <Ice_Wewe> arrugh... this kernel could NOT take any longer to compile
[05:11] <Jordan_U> tritium: Ah, don't know how I missed that, I really think those instructions should be listed first, I may change it ( is there a discussion page ? )
[05:11] <Ice_Wewe> hey, since the NVidia drivers are included in binary form with the packaged kernel, will I have to recompile them for the custom kernel?
[05:11] <tritium> Jordan_U: I agree!
[05:11] <n0yd> Ice_Wewe: not a big deal, I'll figure it out
[05:11] <Astrozombie> Hello, does anyone know hoe to make a wireless acess point..
[05:12] <Ice_Wewe> Astrozombie: what brand?
[05:12] <Astrozombie> *how
[05:12] <Jordan_U> Ice_Wewe: Yes
[05:12] <Astrozombie> I want to make a ICS accesspoint
[05:12] <Ice_Wewe> Astrozombie: can't help, sorry
[05:12] <Astrozombie> :o
[05:12] <Ice_Wewe> darn darn darn
[05:12] <Astrozombie> So there isnt a way to use my laptop as a wireless access point?
[05:12] <Ice_Wewe> unforntunatle
[05:13] <tritium> Astrozombie: perhaps with hostap
[05:13] <Ice_Wewe> Astrozombie: have you tried network-config utility?
[05:13] <Astrozombie> I heard MAc books can do it.
[05:13] <Ice_Wewe> Astrozombie: no they can't
[05:13] <Astrozombie> Yeah, you can use ICs to share your wifi and ethernet, to make an access point.
[05:13] <tritium> Astrozombie: the hostap package is what you want
[05:13] <Astrozombie> Ill prove it.
[05:13] <n0yd> sudo gedit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[05:13] <DanaG> try firestarter for internet sharing?
[05:14] <Astrozombie> I have that. but i dont know how to install a tar bal.
[05:14] <n0yd> sudo gedit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[05:14] <Astrozombie> I have Intel Modded firmware too and i dont know how to install that tarball.
[05:14] <Ice_Wewe> Astrozombie: that's great, how about sharing the love with a PB G4 owner so he can use his wireless
[05:14] <maul555> Jordan_U:   Thanks man,  your help was invaluable..  I now have full 3d hardware acceleration...
[05:14] <tritium> Astrozombie: use the ubuntu package
[05:15] <Astrozombie> whats the Command for the Hostap package?
[05:15] <tritium> to install it?
[05:15] <Astrozombie> yep.
[05:15] <tritium> sudo aptitude install hostap
[05:16] <Astrozombie> also, i need to install the Firmware for my card to use hostap.
[05:16] <tritium> sorry, the packages available are hostap-source, hostap-utils, and hostapd
[05:16] <Astrozombie> so which one do i use?
[05:17] <tirus89> h3xis, writing now, ^_^
[05:17] <h3xis> tirus89, k
[05:17] <tritium> Astrozombie: hostapd, and then if you need drivers, you may need to compile from the other packages
[05:17] <tirus89> h3xis, how long should burn take?
[05:17] <rbil> Astrozombie: I assume you have a prism based wireless card?
[05:17] <h3xis> tirus89, idk maybe 5 min
[05:17] <tirus89> h3xis, hopefully
[05:17] <Astrozombie> I dunno, the intell website said there is a modded Hostap for intel.
[05:18] <Astrozombie> i have all the files, but i dunt know how to install them.
[05:18] <tritium> Astrozombie: don't use the tarballs when ubuntu packages are available
[05:18] <Astrozombie> but the drivers, are modded for Intel.
[05:18] <Astrozombie> so where can i get those for ubuntu
[05:19] <madman91> OMG HELP... i set up vfstpd .. i started the service.... how do i access my computer as an ftp server?
[05:19] <Aggort> Hey everyone. I am using Ubuntu now via Live CD mode. But it's slow. Really slow. Even the itnernet is slow. Is this because it's the live CD?
[05:19] <tritium> yes, Aggort
[05:19] <madman91> Aggort: probably
[05:19] <tritium> definitely
[05:19] <Ice_Wewe> Aggort: how much RAM do you have?
[05:19] <Aggort> Thank god
[05:19] <Aggort> lol
[05:20] <Aggort> 1 gig
[05:20] <Ice_Wewe> Aggort: then yeah, it's the live CD
[05:20] <Aggort> lol ok
[05:20] <madman91> can you run it to ram?
[05:20] <madman91> booot the cd into ram
[05:20] <Astrozombie> Your, going by the read speed of your CD-rom thats why.
[05:20] <Aggort> Alright, well I want to install this thing
[05:20] <Aggort> lol
[05:20] <madman91> Aggort: there is an "install" icon conveniently located on the deskto
[05:21] <Aggort> So is it necessary to defragment my PC first?
[05:21] <madman91> vsftpd-=-=-=-=-- I set it up ... how can i see if it works?
[05:21] <Ice_Wewe> Aggort: ummm, no
[05:21] <Aggort> madman91: I knew that
[05:21] <Astrozombie> Oi, where can i get those Intel non Tarball firmware?
[05:21] <Aggort> Ice_Wewe: It's not?
[05:21] <Ice_Wewe> Aggort: it requires a free partition
[05:21] <Astrozombie> Cuz thats what i found On Intels site.
[05:21] <Aggort> The guides I read said to
[05:21] <madman91> Astrozombie: do tar balls bother you?
[05:21] <Aggort> Well I can create the partition via the install can't I?
[05:22] <Astrozombie> I dont know how to work Tar balls
[05:22] <madman91> Aggort: yes
[05:22] <Ice_Wewe> Aggort: yeah
[05:22] <madman91> Astrozombie: install 'checkinstall'
[05:22] <Ice_Wewe> Aggort: but you'll loose all your data on the HDD
[05:22] <Aggort> See I had an issue with this before. When I installed Ubuntu it didn't work and I ended up losing everything on Windows!
[05:22] <madman91> Astrozombie: it will make a .deb out of your .tar.gz
[05:22] <Ice_Wewe> Aggort: yeah, you need a free partition, otherwise, plan on loosing all your data
[05:22] <Astrozombie> Cool.
[05:22] <madman91> Ice_Wewe: >??!?!!?
[05:22] <Aggort> Well can't I create a free partition?
[05:22] <madman91> Ice_Wewe: why is that .. why cant you shrink and make a new
[05:22] <Aggort> with the install?
[05:23] <madman91> Aggort: i say you can.. Ice_Wewe says you cant.. we are resolving :D
[05:23] <Aggort> oh
[05:23] <Ice_Wewe> madman91: well if he's trying to create a partition out of his windows partition, obviously he's going to loose data when he resizes his Windows patition
[05:23] <Jordan_U> Aggort: Ice_Wewe No, you can resize and create partitions from the install, you can have the installer do it automatically even
[05:23] <Aggort> I shouldn;t ahve to resize the windows partition
[05:23] <Aggort> I have pelnty of room on this hd
[05:23] <Astrozombie> Hey HOw do i use this checkinstall.
[05:23] <Ice_Wewe> I think we're agreeing on the same thing
[05:23] <e1>  does anyone know why all of a sudden my synaptic is downloading at 200 BYTES per second, sooooo slow, actually i doubt it's downloading, i'm trying to get flightgear from synaptic
[05:23] <madman91> Ice_Wewe: you cant resize ntfs? yes you can
[05:23] <tritium> !checkinstall
[05:23] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[05:24] <Astrozombie> thanx
[05:24] <Ice_Wewe> madman91: if you plan on Windows being happy afterwards, you wouldn't. That's probably why some1 told hin to defrag
[05:24] <Jordan_U> Aggort: If you have unpartitioned space then all you need to do is make a new partition for Ubuntu ( you can do this from the installer )
[05:24] <madman91> Ice_Wewe: sweet
[05:24] <snowdon> icewewe: if you want to resize your ntfs partition just go to control panel > admin tools > computer management then in the tree on the left hand side go to disk management and then it will list the partition in the rightside of the biplane
[05:24] <madman91> game time
[05:24] <Aggort> I did that before and it ruined everything
[05:25] <zekesmz> Aggort: I recently repartitioned a Thinkpad Laptop with XP on it and installed Edgy - it worked fine
[05:25] <madman91> zekesmz: w00t
[05:25] <madman91> Ice_Wewe: take that
[05:25] <Ice_Wewe> snowdon: points to the living guinea pig of what happens when you take your advice... *points to Aggort*
[05:25] <zekesmz> It even kept the IBM recovery partition that came with the machine. no problems
[05:25] <madman91> Ice_Wewe: points to zekesmz
[05:25] <Ice_Wewe> madman91: look at what I just wrote
[05:25] <madman91> Ice_Wewe: points at zekesmz
[05:25] <jazzrocker> hi i'm still having the "can't gethostbyname" problems when trying to use sudo
[05:25] <Jordan_U> !dualboot
[05:25] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:25] <jazzrocker> /etc/hostname says foo.org
[05:26] <Ice_Wewe> madman91: let's just agree to disagree
[05:26] <jazzrocker> /etc/hosts says 127.0.0.1 foo.org localhost localhost.localdomain
[05:26] <madman91> Ice_Wewe: sure.. not like it matters.. i dont have windows anymore :D
[05:26] <jazzrocker> is this not correct? do i need to reboot when i change this?
[05:26] <Ice_Wewe> Aggort: it is HIGHLY reccomended that you backup all data you'd wish to keep in the event of a format failure
[05:26] <Aggort> OK so I can run the install and from this CD and the partition will be fine
[05:26] <Ice_Wewe> madman91: I've never had windows
[05:26] <Ice_Wewe> whatever
[05:26] <Aggort> I know Ice_Wewe I know
[05:27] <tritium> Aggort: it's always wise to backup any data you have on partitions you attempt to resize
[05:27] <zekesmz> aggort: yes - backup is very wise
[05:27] <Ice_Wewe> trinitrogen: not just ones you attempt to resize, it's good to have a backup before you do any partition changes
[05:28] <Ice_Wewe> trinitrogen: call me paranoid, but it's saved my butt many times
[05:28] <Astrozombie> I have to get another program to use checkinstall?
[05:28] <Astrozombie> Weird.
[05:28] <Aggort> I know
[05:29] <Aggort> What step will it ask me to partition?
[05:29] <Aggort> That is my last newb question and then I am going to go backup everything I swear lol
[05:29] <Aggort> ...
[05:29] <Aggort> Did I kill everyone with my newbness
[05:29] <twisties> Anyone explain "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:29] <twisties> " to a newbie?
[05:30] <Aggort> ?
[05:30] <nanda> hi
[05:30] <Music_Shuffle> twisties, use sudo?
[05:30] <Music_Shuffle> Or rather
[05:30] <Jordan_U> twisties: you have another program trying to install something, close it first
[05:30] <Music_Shuffle> Close the other program.
[05:30] <Music_Shuffle> Lol.
[05:30] <nanda> is there a way to auto insert a "/" into filenames in a bash script? (for use with mv)
[05:30] <Music_Shuffle> You can't run >1 update program at once.
[05:30] <twisties> would that be synaptic?
[05:30] <nanda> to escape the spaces
[05:30] <Music_Shuffle> What else are you running twisties?
[05:30] <tritium> twisties: it could the be update-manager running in the background
[05:31] <Jordan_U> nanda: Use quotes instead ?
[05:31] <twisties> =o it is the update manager.
[05:31] <twisties> didnt even see it
[05:31] <nepa> rapid_, (scim-panel-gtk:2701): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[05:31] <twisties> thank you ;)
[05:31] <Jordan_U> nanda: That would make things easier IMHO
[05:31] <nepa> what is this error,
[05:32] <nanda> Jordan_U: the problem is that the filenames are read by the script so I can't insert anything easily myself
[05:32] <mnemone> weird, i can't start programs that use X, i straced them and they hang trying to read a /tmp/.ICE-unix file...
[05:32] <nepa> i am trying to install nepali keyboard  layut
[05:32] <nepa> any idea?
[05:32] <Jordan_U> nanda: Why not, just concatinate a quote before and after the string
[05:33] <nanda> not sure I get what you mean, could you give a small example?
[05:33] <Astrozombie> when i type ./configure it doesnt work.
[05:34] <jazzrocker> anyone?
[05:34] <heatxsink> hello all, anyone in here know when Mono1.2 will hit edgy?
[05:34] <jazzrocker> i need to get sudo working, why wouldn't it be working... i've got the hostname in the /etc/hosts file
[05:34] <rbil> jazzrocker: do you have localhost in the hosts file?
[05:35] <NoEvidenZ> Hey, I'm trying to run Edgy from the live cd. When I try to boot from it, it loads into that screen where you can choose to start up or install, start in safe mode or something, then when i select "Start or Install Ubuntu" it goes to the screen, but the Ubuntu logo and text is grey, and there's no loading bar like there was with Dapper, and there's none of the little "Loading Drivers  > OK" things
[05:35] <jazzrocker> rbil, yes i do
[05:35] <NoEvidenZ> Basically, it doesn't look like the Dapper one did, and I'm not sure whether it's just taking a while, or whether it's actually frozen.
[05:36] <jazzrocker> rbil, if you scroll up you'll see what i said
[05:36] <jazzrocker> this chan goes *way* to fast
[05:36] <RancidLM> hey all i need some wifi help, im using ndiswrapper and for some reason when i use system->administration->Networking and try to configure my wifi my ESSID doesn't show up and my networking doesn't work.. the only way to get my wifi working is to use Wifi-radar but then my other network devices stop working.. can some one please help?
[05:36] <jazzrocker> rbil, 127.0.0.1 foo.org localhost localhost.localdomain
[05:36] <mnemone> well, they start if i use --sm-disable
[05:36] <Astrozombie> how do i get ./configure to work?
[05:36] <NoEvidenZ> RancidLM: Are you using Dapper?
[05:36] <mnemone> methinks i need to restart gnome
[05:37] <RancidLM> NoEvidenZ: 6.10 Edgy
[05:37] <dlehman> noevidenz they changed the themes on it so it will look different but the live cd never works for me any way I have to do an alternate install
[05:37] <madman91> Astrozombie: read the INSTALL file
[05:37] <NoEvidenZ> dlehman: How do I do that?
[05:37] <Astrozombie> there is none.
[05:37] <theflyingfool> does anybody know any overly fun games in the repos on edgy
[05:38] <Jordan_U> theflyingfool: xmoto
[05:38] <computer13137> Hey
[05:38] <bruenig> !frozen-bubble
[05:38] <ubotu> frozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-6ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 356 kB
[05:38] <NoEvidenZ> dlehman: Or do I have to download something else?
[05:38] <computer13137> How do I update Ubuntu through the GUI?  Upwards from Breezy
[05:38] <bruenig> !supertux
[05:38] <ubotu> supertux: Classic 2D jump 'n run sidescroller with Tux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.3-1.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 228 kB, installed size 548 kB
[05:38] <theflyingfool> i love supertux
[05:38] <dlehman> noevidenz you need to download the alternate iso for ubuntu
[05:38] <harrisony> if i stopped a program running in terminal (ctrl-z) can i start it again were it left off
[05:38] <Jordan_U> Astrozombie: What are you trying to install
[05:38] <Jordan_U> ?
[05:38] <NoEvidenZ> dlehman: Gah.. I just got the bloody live one! >.<
[05:39] <Jordan_U> harrisony: type "bg" to get it back
[05:39] <Astrozombie> Intel firmware.
[05:39] <bruenig> harrisony, ctrl + c stops the program ctrl + z only runs it in the background
[05:39] <twisties> NoEvidenz: If you didnt live so far away Id lend you my Live CD. Ive installed off it and it works fine
[05:39] <harrisony> computer13137, you would need to upgrade to dapper and then to edgy
[05:39] <bimberi_> !upgrade | computer13137
[05:39] <ubotu> computer13137: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:39] <Jordan_U> Astrozombie: Can you be more specific?
[05:39] <harrisony> Jordan_U, bruenig thanks
[05:39] <tirus89> h3xis, burnt, and going to try
[05:39] <NoEvidenZ> twisties: Oh, hi. Yeah.. But maybe it'd happen with yours anyway.
[05:39] <Astrozombie> Intel BG 2200 AP Linux Firmware.
[05:39] <h3xis> tirus89, k
[05:39] <dlehman> noevidenz someone else might know more but for me the live cd just didn't work well or if id did load it was very slow because it loads everything in ram
[05:39] <theflyingfool> has anyone upgraded google earth to the premum one
[05:40] <tirus89> h3xis, dont forget, it no worky, you get stoned
[05:40] <twisties> NoEvidenz: Are you trying it on your own computer or another one?
[05:40] <computer13137> That site doesn't exist.
[05:40] <h3xis> tirus89, im ready x_x
[05:40] <NoEvidenZ> twisties: my own
[05:40] <Jordan_U> Astrozombie: I have never used it myself but try autoapt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoApt
[05:40] <NoEvidenZ> dlehman: I'll just get the alternate one, thanks.
[05:40] <madman91> VFSTPD--HELP! ... I set it up.. started the vfstpd service... how do i access it ?
[05:41] <dlehman> no problem noevidenz
[05:41] <NoEvidenZ> I just can't see why the Dapper one would work and the Edgy one wouldn't.
[05:41] <soleblaze> has anyone here setup an afp server with edgy?  It won't accept my username/password
[05:42] <cafuego_> soleblaze: If you use it with OSX only (not Classic) I reckon you're probably better off using samba.
[05:42] <soleblaze> cafuego_: I'm using it for different reasons.  I use nfs mostly to move files
[05:42] <soleblaze> it's the easiest way for me to keep track of free space
[05:43] <twisties> >< install of Beryl failed to fetch a file. "try apt-get update" I DID THAT B4              help?
[05:43] <cafuego_> soleblaze: Then I can't really help, I've only really used afp on Debian
[05:43] <cafuego_> soleblaze: .. and not for  afew years now.
[05:43] <soleblaze> yeah..I used it on gentoo before..a year ago..and this is setup the same as I did then..but it just tells me my login is invalid..meh
[05:44] <cafuego_> soleblaze: nothing in /var/log/auth.log?
[05:44] <madman91> how do i setup an ftp server on ubuntu ?!?!?!?1 11
[05:44] <dude> who can help me whith a java issue
[05:44] <HymnToLife> !ftp | madman91
[05:44] <ubotu> madman91: FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[05:44] <crazy_bus> I would like to install jahshaka.  But the only package I can find for it is for dapper.  Is it safe to install a dapper package on edgy?
[05:44] <HymnToLife> !vsftpd
[05:44] <cafuego_> madman91: pick one to install, install it!!!!!!!11
[05:44] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 109 kB, installed size 408 kB
[05:44] <soleblaze> nothing useful.
[05:44] <madman91> cafuego: !!!!111111!!!!111 i did ... vfstpd ... how do i login into it?/!? !!!111111
[05:44] <tirus89> h3xis, the integrity is running smooth, it just might work
[05:45] <h3xis> :)
[05:45] <tirus89> ^_^
[05:45] <HymnToLife> madman91, with your username and password, methinks
[05:45] <tirus89> h3xis, its a gewd cd
[05:45] <dude> can anyone help me with a java issue
[05:45] <HymnToLife> !helpme | dude
[05:45] <ubotu> dude: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:45] <HymnToLife> @time Paris
[05:45] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Paris: January 04 2007, 05:45:56
[05:45] <cafuego_> madman91:  edit the config file (/etc/vsftpd.conf) to allow non-anonymous logins, then retsart vsfdtpd!!!1111!!!!
[05:46] <HymnToLife> all right, I'm off to bed :p
[05:46] <Astrozombie> ./configure still doesnt work.
[05:46] <twisties> >< install of Beryl failed to fetch a file. "try apt-get update" I DID THAT B4              help?
[05:46] <slicky> do i need to reboot the box if iv installed linux-image-server ?
[05:46] <h3xis> tirus89, work?
[05:47] <h3xis> tirus89, what's it giving you?
[05:47] <anorexicpillow> is there a way i can have my windows firefox book marks update to my bookmarks i have on linux?
[05:47] <tirus89> h3xis, unable to mount
[05:47] <h3xis> tirus89, mount what?
[05:47] <somerville32> anorexicpillow, export from windows and import to linux
[05:47] <tirus89> h3xis, diff on this time, crc error --system halted
[05:47] <anorexicpillow> is there a way it can do that automatically on boot up?
[05:47] <h3xis> oh lovely
[05:48] <jazzrocker> is this channel officially for Dapper?
[05:48] <dude> i am trying to install sakai on edubuntu 6.10 but from what i know i need to have jre but when i check my version of my java it says that it is free java. but i think i need the real jre  so to get tomcat and maven running i am wondering how would i get it to work with free java
[05:48] <h3xis> anorexicpillow, what? there's no need to. you go in windows and export the file and then import it in linux
[05:48] <tirus89> h3xis/me stones hexis
[05:48] <h3xis> tirus89, no command promot?
[05:48] <jazzrocker> "sudo unable to lookup via gethostbyname password postdrop" i've googled for this error up and down but nothing has fixed it
[05:48] <tirus89> h3xis, ima do a no splash thing on this one, i'll try that
[05:48] <jazzrocker> i've edited my /etc/hosts file six ways to sudnday
[05:48] <cyphase> *sigh* I hate patents
[05:48] <jazzrocker> but i *still* can't fucking get this to work, this is SO retarded
[05:48] <h3xis> tirus89, k it should show any errors you might get
[05:48] <cafuego_> anorexicpillow: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8761
[05:49] <tritium> *sigh* I hate the use of the non-word "ima"
[05:49] <Peebo> anorexicpillow: You could run a cron job or a startup script in Linux to copy the file from the windoze box to linux. You need to share the directory that has your bookmaks in it on the windoze box
[05:49] <jazzrocker> the only solution people say is "make sure /etc/hostname matches /etc/host" well it fucking does! now what?
[05:49] <cafuego_> anorexicpillow: have  aread of that, it's an article on using  ashare dpartition to hold the firefox profile data.
[05:49] <black_13> i have just built the kernel and after trying to boot said kernel i get "VFS: cannot open root device "hda2" or unknown-block(0,0) >>> Please append a correct "root=" boot option >>> Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS:
[05:49] <black_13> how do i fix this?
[05:49] <tritium> jazzrocker: watch your languagge
[05:49] <tirus89> h3xis, it just gave me like 20 errors, i dunno anymore, i think i should just get a toaster and install gentoo
[05:49] <jazzrocker> sorry
[05:49] <tritium> language, even
[05:49] <jazzrocker> tritium, any ideas?
[05:49] <anorexicpillow> okay will do
[05:49] <slicky> if i put a line in rc.local.. will it exicute the line everytime i restart the box?
[05:49] <h3xis> tirus89, youre not dropped to console?
[05:49] <cafuego_> black_13: Reconsifure the kernel and add support for IO controller and root filesystem.
[05:49] <tritium> jazzrocker: no
[05:50] <jazzrocker> crap
[05:50] <jazzrocker> !hostname
[05:50] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly
[05:50] <slicky> !rc.local
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rc.local - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <jazzrocker> ^--- did this already
[05:50] <slicky> anyone?
[05:50] <tirus89> h3xis, nope, tried the safe, and /bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off
[05:50] <madman91> cafuego: HymnToLife : ... no .. how do i logi n?
[05:50] <h3xis> tirus89, wtf kind of hardware do you have?
[05:50] <tirus89> h3xis, now i got a console with (initramfs)
[05:50] <dude> anyone
[05:50] <tritium> slicky: don't fish, please.
[05:50] <cafuego_> madman91: start an ftp program, connect to the ftp server.
[05:51] <LameBMX> tirus89, welcome back
[05:51] <LameBMX> u on edgy now
[05:51] <h3xis> tirus89, okay ummm run dmesg | less and look through that for errors
[05:51] <h3xis> LameBMX, yes, it boots this time but no mount :/
[05:51] <tirus89> LameBMX, no install for edgy
[05:51] <LameBMX> no mount ...
[05:51] <ubuntu> Alright, I have everything backed up, I defragmented on New years, and I am ready to install.... what step will it ask me to partition?
[05:51] <Mightily-Oats> hey all, about to install edgy (going to take a crack at it again), and was wondering if someone could help me out. the problems i have had are, when in vim, the keys on the keyboard dont work as they do in dapper (this happens only when using vim in sudo), and also, i was wondering, how i change the boot splash res, and disable the window manager logon?
[05:51] <LameBMX> tirus you got a raid goin on dont ya
[05:51] <LameBMX> if i remember correctly
[05:51] <LameBMX> or am i thinkin of someone else
[05:51] <tirus89> not me
[05:52] <tirus89> no such thing of raid when this comp made, atleast for this brand
[05:52] <NoEvidenZ> LameBMX: Would you know anything about the Edgy Live CD? Mine doesn't appear to be working.
[05:52] <LameBMX> tirus89, u got a desktop up or just terminal
[05:52] <Aggort> Alright, I have everything backed up, I defragmented on New years, and I am ready to install.... what step will it ask me to partition?
[05:52] <tirus89> Lame, define terminal
[05:52] <Aggort> there we go
[05:52] <marcus_> hello i got beryl to work,but cant seem to get the cube. can anybody tell me how?
[05:52] <madman91> cafuego_: what is the address?
[05:52] <cafuego_> madman91: localhost
[05:53] <h3xis> Aggort, i cant remember but why do you need to know which step?
[05:53] <tirus89> right now ima in the console with (initramfs)
[05:53] <NoEvidenZ> marcus_: hit x or something.
[05:53] <madman91> cafuego: ?
[05:53] <madman91> cafuego_:
[05:53] <LameBMX> well if you have an app open on a desktop with a terminal .. then ur at the desktop ... otherwise all you have is a black screen with ubuntu@ubuntu and nothing else
[05:53] <cafuego_> marcus_: atl-alt-click-hold on the desktop and drag the mouse
[05:53] <Aggort> h3xis: I want to make sure it asks me and I don't miss it
[05:53] <cafuego_> madman91: localhost
[05:53] <h3xis> Aggort, you wont miss it. you'll know
[05:53] <dude> i am trying to install sakai on edubuntu 6.10 but from what i know i need to have jre but when i check my version of my java it says that it is free java. but i think i need the real jre  so to get tomcat and maven running i am wondering how would i get it to work with free java
[05:53] <h3xis> Aggort, if you pay attention to the install :P
[05:53] <LameBMX> marcus .. hit ctrl-alt then click ur mouse and move it
[05:53] <tirus89> h3xis, not found
[05:53] <Aggort> I jsut wanted to make sure
[05:53] <NightWolf> i need some help on how to setup dual monitor in ubuntu i've tried just about everything i can find in google but nothing i've found has been of any use to me
[05:54] <h3xis> tirus89, uh... type pwd
[05:54] <LameBMX> marcus_, ctrl-alt .. click mouse .. move around
[05:54] <tirus89> h3xis, gave me a slash
[05:54] <madman91> cafuego_: how would i login from another location ?
[05:54] <h3xis> tirus89, k do ls
[05:54] <LameBMX> marcus_, also look in the bindings tab in beryl-settings .. it tells what activates what
[05:54] <dude> !beryl
[05:54] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:54] <madman91> cafuego_: do you mean localhost = my ip?
[05:54] <black_13> cafuego also i want to mention that this machine is a dual boot machine with the first partion is ntfs and the second is ext3
[05:54] <tirus89> h3xis, gave me some stuff
[05:54] <cafuego_> madman91: Find your ip address (ifconfig should show you)
[05:54] <NightWolf> i need some help on how to setup dual monitor in ubuntu i've tried just about everything i can find in google but nothing i've found has been of any use to me
[05:54] <tirus89> h3xis, root now?
[05:55] <h3xis> tirus89, you can try
[05:55] <madman91> cafuego_: 192.168.1.4
[05:55] <Astrozombie> :o
[05:55] <madman91> cafuego: that doesnt tell me anything
[05:55] <h3xis> tirus89, type startx as non-root
[05:55] <tirus89> h3xis, no found
[05:55] <marcus_> okay i got it to move but how do i see multiple faces of the cube at once?
[05:55] <cafuego_> madman91: That will only work on the LAN
[05:55] <bonehead> hi, I had to boot with noapic and am installing, will i need apic later on for something?
[05:55] <LameBMX> so h3xis where we at wit tirus89 ... im kinda busy doin my books .. but i had to do my install via terminal cuz o the fake raid ..
[05:55] <madman91> cafuego_: yea.. how do i make a www ftp serveR?
[05:55] <madman91> cafuego_: well.. one i can access from anywhere
[05:55] <tirus89> h3xis, um well, nothing, ima reboot
[05:55] <Astrozombie> Hey can some one tell me how to install the firmware?
[05:55] <LameBMX> marcus_,  as i said .. click on the diamond .. goto settings .. look on the bindings tabs ..and play away
[05:56] <h3xis> tirus89, okay tell LameBMX what happens
[05:56] <marcus_> okay thank you
[05:56] <LameBMX> marcus_, winkey == super
[05:56] <cafuego_> madman91: Yopu'll need to set up port forwarding on your modem/router. How to do that would depend on the model and should be in the manual.
[05:56] <jazzrocker> weird... well sudo technically "still works" even though it gives me that error
[05:56] <jazzrocker> that's really fubar
[05:56] <tirus89> LameBMX, ok, i get screwed on the edgy boot
[05:56] <NoEvidenZ> LameBMX: My Edgy Live Cd doesn't seem to be working. I can tell it to "Start or Install Ubuntu", it goes to the next screen, has Ubuntu and the symbol, but it looks different than it did on the Dapper Live CD, and it doesn't seem to load anything, it's like it just freezes there. Anything I'm doing wrong, or do I just have to get the alternate cd?
[05:56] <madman91> cafuego_: lets say.. i portforward.. what port ?
[05:56] <tirus89> LameBMX, i get the same thing as NoEvidenZ
[05:57] <Aggort> Does the installer automatically detect the free space on my hard drive?
[05:57] <IntuitiveNipple> Anyone installed Edgy 6.10 to encrypted file-systems?
[05:57] <NightWolf> i need some help on how to setup dual monitor in ubuntu i've tried just about everything i can find in google but nothing i've found has been of any use to me
[05:57] <h3xis> Aggort, yes
[05:57] <LameBMX> sorry NoEvidenZ tirus89 was up first + im doing my company books :/
[05:57] <twisties> can someone run me through beryl configuration? Im following http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA
[05:57] <Aggort> And how much space should I leave for Ubuntu?
[05:57] <tirus89> h3xis, crc error --system halted
[05:57] <castoff> bonehead: it is built into the kernel so once installed it will be there unless you specify otherwise
[05:57] <NoEvidenZ> LameBMX: Haha, no problem.
[05:57] <LameBMX> k .. and what do you get when you remove quit splash ?
[05:57] <cafuego_> madman91: port 80 for www, 20 and 21 for ftp (active mode ftp) passive mode ftp needs 21 plus some magic in the router - it may or may not be able to.
[05:57] <h3xis> tirus89, let me google it
[05:57] <tritium> !beryl > twisties
[05:57] <Aggort> really?! Wow the first time I installeed Ubuntu a bout 4 motnhs ago it didn't and I lsot Windows
[05:57] <Aggort> How much space should I use then?
[05:57] <NightWolf> does anyone want to help me with my delima?
[05:57] <tirus89> LameBMX, crc error --system halted on install with splash
[05:58] <bonehead> castoff: so am i maybe Ok after install, or do i need to add the noapic option?
[05:58] <madman91> cafuego_: ok .. i forward 21 to my x.x.x.4 address (assuming i am always x.x.x.4) .. then what ip do i tesT? the ifconfig one?
[05:58] <Aggort> About 40 gigs good?
[05:58] <LameBMX> NoEvidenZ, you get the same thing
[05:58] <LameBMX> ?
[05:58] <NoEvidenZ> I haven't tried it.
[05:58] <twisties> i did !beryl it gives the link that i posted above
[05:58] <tirus89> LameBMX, ok, i erased the splash, then then i get read outs and freeze
[05:58] <cafuego_> madman91: No, the external one.. the modem/rouyter should show you what that is too (note that it may change if you reconnect to the net).
[05:58] <twisties> i need help with part of it
[05:58] <Aggort> Please? Cus I don't want to ruin this again
[05:58] <LameBMX> tirus89, what about after removing quiet and splash ..
[05:58] <castoff> bonehead: if it doesn't boot add the apic=off at the linux prompt
[05:59] <h3xis> tirus89, this isnt a problem with edgy.
[05:59] <LameBMX> where does it freeze?
[05:59] <h3xis> tirus89, either the disc is bad or you have something wrong with hardware
[05:59] <bonehead> castoff: thanks, is that going to messup anything, i mean do i need apic
[05:59] <castoff> bonehead: then add it to the grub.conf
[05:59] <LameBMX> h3 i was kinda guessin its a hardware issues
[05:59] <madman91> cafuego_: yeah... so then i login .. and wabam?
[05:59] <Aggort> I don;t want resizing IDE1 ruinign Windows
[05:59] <tirus89> h3xis, wow, omfg, i hate this
[05:59] <bonehead> castoff: OK
[05:59] <cafuego_> madman91: in theory :-)
[05:59] <tirus89> h3xis, ima going to explode
[05:59] <NightWolf> i need some help on how to setup dual monitor in ubuntu i've tried just about everything i can find in google but nothing i've found has been of any use to me
[05:59] <madman91> cafuego_: can i make a static location?
[05:59] <castoff> bonehead: not really unless it is a laptop
[05:59] <h3xis> tirus89, ive googled that error and everyone has said that either the install cd was bad or their HDD was bad
[05:59] <madman91> cafuego_: i signed up for dydns.org .. if you know what that is
[05:59] <h3xis> tirus89, it's just not meant to be -_-
[05:59] <madman91> ?
[06:00] <Aggort> I really need some help with jsut installing TOTAL noob here
[06:00] <cafuego_> madman91: Yup, then if your dyndns client is running you should be fine - just use the dyndns address.
[06:00] <tirus89> h3xis, i dunno, i cant get another hd, and the other ones are like totally gay like 256 mb
[06:00] <LameBMX> but it dont matter ... h3 if we can get him to a terminal with broadband axx .. it can be installed from there .. the big thing is suing live cd to find a workaround for the hardware issues before he has to dl a bunch of junk or somehting ...
[06:00] <NoEvidenZ> Aggort: Installing Ubuntu?
[06:00] <Aggort> Yes
[06:00] <bonehead> castoff: No, i just put together a new amd64 duo with an asus A2 mobo. Im wondering if i should run 64 bit install also, thanks again
[06:00] <h3xis> LameBMX, this is true
[06:00] <Aggort> NoEvidenZ: Yes
[06:00] <NoEvidenZ> Aggort: What have you got so far?
[06:01] <h3xis> tirus89, can you run sudo ifconfig
[06:01] <h3xis> sudo_maddash muh hero
[06:01] <tirus89> LameBMX, h3xis, THE GMD USER gmd does not exist.
[06:01] <sudo_maddash> h3xis: dun dun duuun!
[06:01] <tirus89> h3xis, where should i run that
[06:01] <h3xis> tirus89, console
[06:01] <tirus89> h3xis, give me a button press to get to it
[06:01] <madman91> cafuego_: explain
[06:01] <Aggort> NoEvidenZ: the partioning step and I want to make sure I get this right!
[06:02] <madman91> cafuego_: dydns client?
[06:02] <madman91> me?
[06:02] <h3xis> tirus89, uhhh try ctrl alt f2
[06:02] <LameBMX> tirus89, here is one ... just do sudo -i .. then it will say root@ubuntu ... and save you from typing sudo 50 billion times
[06:02] <Astrozombie> are there any easy programs that can turn my Laptop as a router.
[06:02] <cafuego_> madman91: The dyndns client needs to run on your Linux machine, it will inform dyndns of the external ip address.
[06:02] <Aggort> NoEvidenZ: Last time about 4 months ago I lsot eveything
[06:02] <bonehead> castoff: i can always try ubuntu 64 on a seperate drive i guess, only thing i worry about is real player for BBC
[06:02] <NoEvidenZ> Tell me about your hard drives. How are they set up right now?
[06:02] <tirus89> LameBMX, no dice
[06:02] <h3xis> Astrozombie, uh...how will you do that with just 1 ethernet port?
[06:02] <jcruzlara> I need help trying to install mythtv on ubuntu 6.1 i get the this error main:2247: FATAL: failed to open '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0': 2 No such file or directory
[06:02] <jcruzlara> when i do this :/home/javier# scan /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-t/au-sydney_north_shore > /root/.tzap/channels.conf please help
[06:02] <LameBMX> tirus89, im talkin about when you make it to the terminal
[06:03] <Aggort> NoEvidenZ: I have jsut 1 120 gig
[06:03] <Astrozombie> My laptop has one ehternet port, and one Wifi card
[06:03] <madman91> cafuego_: what client ? is it from their site?
[06:03] <cafuego_> madman91: Install 'sudo apt-get install ddclient' or somesuch (your modem or router might have builtin dyndns support too)
[06:03] <tirus89> LameBMX, i cant get to a working termanal
[06:03] <Astrozombie> So i shall use the wifi as a router
[06:03] <NoEvidenZ> Aggort: Is it partitioned in any way?
[06:03] <LameBMX> again
[06:03] <Aggort> NoEvidenZ: Nope jsut has Windows XP installed
[06:03] <h3xis> Astrozombie, you mean AP. i don't have any experience with that part. if nobody here knows i would suggest googling how to build an AP with linux
[06:04] <LameBMX> h3xis,  you helpin on this? .. if so how about we all join #tirus ... cuz i have no hope of keeping track here
[06:04] <h3xis> alright
[06:04] <bonehead> well that was fast 11 minutes and installed
[06:04] <bonehead> compared to 4 hours for media center
[06:04] <Astrozombie> I have AP firmware for my Wifi card but in dont know how to install it through linux
[06:04] <tirus89> h3xis, LameBMX, i dunno maybe its a fake raid, i dunno, more work tomorrow, hungry and thristy
[06:04] <h3xis> hey!
[06:04] <jcruzlara> please anyone
[06:04] <h3xis> it's not my fault your hardware sucks
[06:04] <Aggort> lol
[06:05] <Astrozombie> dont dis hardware
[06:05] <Astrozombie> that the first lesson of being an IT
[06:05] <Aggort> I jsut need to amke sure I get this right
[06:05] <h3xis> tirus89, what kind of hardware is it?
[06:05] <tirus89> h3xis, you say it works, it no work, so  you get stoned
[06:05] <h3xis> Astrozombie, i dis all kinds of hardware.
[06:05] <NoEvidenZ> Aggort: To install another OS, you should have a seperate partition. So you need atleast two. And when you partition a drive that already has information on it, odds are you'll lose anything important. So back everything up, then partition it in atleast 2 partitions. I'd recommend 25gig for the windows drive, 20 for the Ubuntu drive, and then the rest as a drive for everything else.
[06:05] <Astrozombie> you dis other peoples hardware because your hardware is lacking.
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> Um, how do you set automatic chmod on upload in vsftp?
[06:05] <tirus89> h3xis, i dont know anymore, its a gateway that was made in like 2000
[06:05] <h3xis> Astrozombie, my hardware is not lacking.
[06:06] <tirus89> h3xis, LameBMX, more tomorrow, i gots to go
[06:06] <tritium> h3xis, Astrozombie: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic,please
[06:06] <h3xis> ugh.
[06:06] <Aggort> But doesn't the installation create a partition?
[06:06] <Astrozombie> :o
[06:06] <h3xis> yeah yeah w/e
[06:06] <Astrozombie> How Do install this firmware plz.
[06:06] <tritium> h3xis: I'm serious
[06:06] <h3xis> tritium <3
[06:06] <Aggort> NoEvidenZ: If not shoudl I through Windows? What is safer?
[06:06] <NoEvidenZ> Aggort: Yes, it can. But you need to back everything up first, because you'll lose everything you've got.
[06:07] <Aggort> NoEvidenz: Why?
[06:07] <Aggort> NoEvidenZ: If it's free space?
[06:07] <NoEvidenZ> Aggort: I have no idea. You could ask a techie who would tell you exactly why, all i know is that it happens.
[06:07] <Aggort> NoEvidenZ: Is there anyway to create a partition safely then? Without losing anything
[06:08] <NoEvidenZ> Aggort: Install another harddrive if you can, then install Ubuntu on that. Otherwise, burn everything you want to keep to dvd's or put them on another computer.
[06:08] <Aggort> NoEvidenZ: Say using the free version of Alcohol?
[06:08] <NoEvidenZ> Nothing's guaranteed.
[06:08] <Aggort> NoEvidenZ: Wish I could
[06:08] <NoEvidenZ> So do I.
[06:08] <Aggort> uggh
[06:08] <Aggort> So how did you instal it?
[06:09] <NoEvidenZ> I put in a spare hard drive.
[06:09] <Aggort> oh
[06:09] <Aggort> Can I create a partition thorugh Windows?
[06:09] <NoEvidenZ> But if I didn't have one, I would've had to reformat, repartition and then install windows and ubuntu all over again.
[06:10] <NoEvidenZ> Er.. Probably can, but I'm not sure how. I usually only do it when I'm installing windows.
[06:10] <NoEvidenZ> And it's got a thing on the install cd.
[06:10] <Aggort> Yea I wish I had
[06:10] <dannydrifffft> im trying to install ubuntu 6.10 on my system with xp sp2 already on it (on a different partition). i put the cd in, choose to install ubuntu, it loads, i get the orange background screen (im guessing to start the installation) but nothing ever pops up to install. the background is a little choppy with black spots in some places. might this be that my hardware is not compatible?
[06:10] <Aggort> Well I'll be back to let you know how it turnes out
[06:11] <nolimitsoya> dannydrifffft, not as such... many people have problems booting the live cd without having any problems running once its installed :)
[06:11] <NoEvidenZ> Aggort: Don't forget to back everything up.
[06:11] <nolimitsoya> dannydrifffft, did you try the safe graphics mode?
[06:11] <IntuitiveNipple> danny: Boot the CD again, and when the menu shows press F6 so the boot command line can be edited. Then remove "quiet splash" and hit Enter to boot... you'll see the boot messages then and can work out the issue
[06:11] <NoEvidenZ> Aggort: I don't want to be to blame for you losing anything/everything. :P
[06:11] <sudo_maddash> danndrifffft: add "vga=771" to the "boot: " at the start
[06:11] <dannydrifffft> nolimitsoya, i think i have. ill try that
[06:11] <sudo_maddash> dannydrifffft: add "vga=771" to the "boot: " at the start
[06:11] <twisties> Ahh, fixed my problems myself. Beryl now working and my god it looks cool
[06:12] <dannydrifffft> IntuitiveNipple, ill try that as well. thank you
[06:12] <NoEvidenZ> twisties: I hate you. I freakin' hate you.
[06:12] <dannydrifffft> sudo_maddash, i cant even get anywhere to type anything in
[06:12] <NoEvidenZ> I can't even install Edgy. =/
[06:12] <IntuitiveNipple> danny: good luck - I'm dealing with the same kind of thing myseld, its become vital :D
[06:12] <sudo_maddash> dannydrifffft:
[06:12] <NoEvidenZ> CD won't boot, and now i'm sitting around waiting for the alternate install to download.
[06:12] <twisties> NoEvidenZ: Now I need cedega working properly and I can boycott windows :)
[06:12] <sudo_maddash> dannydrifffft: at the very start, before you hit "enter", add the "vga=771"
[06:13] <dannydrifffft> okay i will. i'll be back in a few minutes if it doesnt work, thanks everyone
[06:14] <sudo_maddash> does anyone have an unusually long delay (~10 sec or more) between "Loading GRUB stage2..." and the appearance of the GRUB menu?
[06:14] <NoEvidenZ> Not I.
[06:15] <elyon> I would like to try out the KDE environment.  How would I go about installing that and allowing me to choose which to use when I logon?  And if I do logon to KDE instead of Gnome, will I still have GUI access to all my installed packages?
[06:15] <nolimitsoya> elyon, sudo apt-get install kde-core, and select it from the sessions menu of gdm
[06:15] <LameBMX> i like that ? elyon i was thinkin the same thing about like xfce or kde lol
[06:15] <h3xis> !kde | elyon
[06:15] <ubotu> elyon: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[06:15] <elyon> maddash:  Ever since installing Ubuntu, I've had a VERY slow BIOS load and then a very long delay between GRUB stages, yes.
[06:15] <maddash> grub has an unusually long delay...any ideas?
[06:15] <maddash> elyon: whoa. did you do a server install?
[06:16] <elyon> maddash:  no.
[06:16] <nolimitsoya> elyon, i wouldnt recommend installing kubuntu-desktop... youll end up with tons of stuff, not just kde :)
[06:16] <elyon> nolimitsoya:  Yeah, I'm just interested in trying it out the interface of it, I don't need all the software
[06:18] <elyon> nolimitsoya:  Am I going to have icons for my currently installed software in KDE, though?
[06:18] <LameBMX> nolimitsoya, will it be auto added to the sessions in gdm
[06:18] <LameBMX> ?
[06:18] <theflyingfool> does anyone know how to play nighthawk
[06:19] <Jbirk> Hi
[06:20] <elyon> Hmm... for some reason my mouse doesn't point at the right places in the login manager.
[06:20] <Jbirk> I have a problem with Firefox 2 inline spelling not working.  Please help
[06:20] <elyon> Must have something to do with the wacky resolution it forces me to use?
[06:20] <Jbirk> Would it be better to just update to Edgy?
[06:21] <nevron> jbirk i am not sure if itis related with your issue but firefox just got updated
[06:22] <elyon> I can't select any of the session options on the login manager because my mouse cursor doesn't actually point where Linux THINKS its pointing.
[06:22] <elyon> hehe... what a sad attempt at crashing the channel.
[06:22] <nevron> elyon try using tab and space for making selections?
[06:23] <jbroome> i was willing to accept huge boobs
[06:23] <elyon> nevron:  I haven't tried that... but could you help me fix the problem?  The resolution isn't what I want it to be for the login manager.
[06:23] <vinboy> how do I install gkrellm themes?
[06:24] <nevron> elyon i have had the sama issue and couldnt resolve it instead i used the keyboard to make selections
[06:24] <maddash> lol "hugeboobs"
[06:24] <elyon> hmm... I don't understand why Ubuntu chose such a crazy resolution for the LM anyway
[06:24] <maddash> !ops
[06:24] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[06:24] <maddash> geez
[06:24] <elyon> haha
[06:24] <Pan7h3r> hmmm
[06:24] <roach_> I'm installing Ubuntu, I'm a n00b, and I'm confused about the hostname.  The prompt says "The hostname is a single word...", but I'm wondering if it should be "mybox" or "mybox.mydomain.mytld"...?
[06:24] <Hobbsee> Seveas: he's klined
[06:25] <maddash> haha 0wn3d
[06:25] <Hobbsee> Seveas: well, one is
[06:25] <Pan7h3r> stupid h..boobs
[06:25] <theflyingfool> does anyone know how to play nighthawk
[06:25] <maddash> poor seveas....has to go through each ip and ban it
[06:25] <nevron> elyon i think it happens when you ctrl alt backspace and kill the x server running and when you try to logon to a new x session like xgl
[06:25] <elyon> roach_:  Just one word... don't bother with the periods.  It can be anything you want it to be.
[06:25] <numist> judging from the idiocy of the bot (and the fact that it hit gentoo's channel earlier), you might be ok with a nickname ban on hugeboobs*!*@*
[06:25] <elyon> nevron:  No... even after rebooting or anything its been like that.
[06:26] <nalioth> maddash: no, he doesn't. they all got klined
[06:26] <madman91> cafuego_: HELP!... when i setup a static ip for myself (under my router) .. my connection gets really slow ... and that includes other computers on my NETwork
[06:26] <nevron> elyon than that is a diffirent issue and i have no clue howto resolve it either :(
[06:26] <roach_> elyon - that's what I figured, but I wasn't clear on the repercussions...  will (e.g.) "hostname --fqdn" still work?
[06:26] <Sutur> Hello, simple question: using gnome-system-manager, ext3 filesystems are reporting "available" space as only 800mb, while 12000mb are "free" - why is this?
[06:26] <elyon> roach_:  Now that's more than one word ;)
[06:26] <LameBMX> manny0, howdy neighbor
[06:27] <elyon> Okay... could ANYONE explain to me how to change the resolution used for GDM?
[06:27] <elyon> no GDM... I mean the login manager.
[06:27] <freshbrnt> ok lets see if i can get flamed for this newb question what is the ls equivelant of dir |more or dir /p
[06:27] <NoEvidenZ> ls
[06:28] <bimberi_> freshbrnt: ls | less
[06:28] <elyon> freshbrnt:  You don't need one.  You can scroll in the console ;)
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> elyon: depends on the console
[06:28] <NoEvidenZ> Oh, read it wrong.
[06:28] <elyon> tonyyarusso:  Good point.
[06:28] <freshbrnt> so it only shows one screen at a time, my technique of trying to hit the scroll lock key at the right time is starting to try my patience
[06:28] <freshbrnt> lol
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> | less would be perfect though.
[06:29] <freshbrnt> and how exactly do i do that
[06:29] <Winter-1> does anyone have a report on neptunium
[06:29] <freshbrnt> gdm wont start because of my generic on board video (S3)
[06:29] <madman91> cafuego_: i portforwarded .. now what
[06:29] <bimberi> freshbrnt:   ls | less
[06:30] <Sutur> Hello, simple question: using gnome-system-manager, ext3 filesystems are reporting "available" space as only 800mb, while 12000mb are "free" - why is this?
[06:30] <concept10> !beagle
[06:30] <ubotu> beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.9-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 804 kB, installed size 3160 kB
[06:30] <freshbrnt> so i login with my created account and was trying to learn CLI basics but cannot seem to get the screen to "scroll" back up but the tut i was reading said that it supported that
[06:30] <NoEvidenZ> freshbrnt: couldn't you grep?
[06:30] <madman91> Sutur: i am having the same problem..
[06:30] <elyon> OKay.  Tried doing the workaround of using TAB in the login manager (since no one seems to know how to fix the resolution)... but it just tells me I'm entering my information wrong (as if I was pressing enter instead of tab)
[06:30] <roach_> so, stupid question, but if hostname is a single word, where/how does "hostname --fqdn" get the domain from?
[06:31] <Sutur> madman91: What are your findings?\
[06:31] <freshbrnt> whats that? im VERY new to linux
[06:31] <bimberi> freshbrnt: if you pipe to less you can scroll up with the "b" key
[06:31] <madman91> Sutur: i didnt find anything.. i just follow the "free" column.. i ignore the "available"
[06:31] <freshbrnt> i speak fluent dos and win api tho
[06:31] <elyon> grr
[06:31] <tonyyarusso> freshbrnt: Grep is a search / results limiter tool, 'man grep' for detailed info
[06:31] <LookTj> I deleted the mysql script from /etc/init.d with the rm command and have no idea how to recover it
[06:31] <madman91> Sutur: i didnt look into it .. if you find anything then please tell me
[06:32] <freshbrnt> so why less? like what does the less signify exactly?
[06:32] <Sutur> madman91: Is it then an issue with gnome-system-manager alone?
[06:32] <elyon> freshbrnt:  Have you tried that command yet?  Seeing is believing.
[06:32] <madman91> Sutur: you can check... run df -h
[06:32] <bimberi> freshbrnt: do a 'man less' and you will see (near the top) :)
[06:32] <madman91> Sutur: ' df -h ' will show disk usage
[06:32] <maddash> LookTj: are there any backups?
[06:33] <freshbrnt> ty
[06:33] <nevron> elyon what is the real problem ?
[06:33] <maddash> Looktj: ie, with the name "***~"
[06:33] <timfrost> Sutur: some space is reserved for the system, and the df command subtracts that from the 'free' figure so you will see used + free < total.
[06:33] <elyon> nevron:  The problem is that I can't select Session options from the login screen.  Not with my mouse OR with TAB.
[06:33] <Aggort> Does anyone know a safe way to partition a Windows XP drive?
[06:33] <LookTj> maddash: no
[06:33] <elyon> Aggort: fdisk -r ;P
[06:34] <madman91> timfrost: he is seeing... more free than available
[06:34] <Aggort> I have 150 gigabyte hard drive all NTFS right now but I don;t want to ruin XP
[06:34] <nevron> did you try using alt?
[06:34] <freshbrnt> using package installers like apt get and such are decent even with dialup or are there other options like d/l somewhere with fast access and transfer to linux system?
[06:34] <Sutur> timfrost: Understood, but why is there 12GB of space reserved for a filesystem?
[06:34] <nevron> and you also this is not a fix as you can see
[06:34] <madman91> Aggort: boot into winxp.. download partition magic... then shrink winxp .. boot back into ubuntu.. wala
[06:34] <nevron> i am just guessing things
[06:34] <doctorshim> do fingerprint readers on laptops work in ubuntu?
[06:34] <elyon> nevron:  Yeah.  Its treating my TAB key like ENTER.  Every time I press TAB it tells me that I'm entering my login information wrong.
[06:34] <spike723> can someone help me get compiz going?
[06:34] <Aggort> I don;t have ubuntu installed
[06:34] <freshbrnt> aggort: go to start-programs-admin tools-computer management and then select drives
[06:34] <Aggort> and partition magic isn't free
[06:34] <freshbrnt> or logical drive manager
[06:35] <madman91> Aggort: use gparted live cd
[06:35] <Aggort> I only habe 1 mb of unallocated space
[06:35] <elyon> nevron:  Hey, I'll take any advice you can give... everyone else has been ignoring my question on this for a week.
[06:35] <madman91> Aggort: google " gparted live cd "
[06:35] <Aggort> madman91: Last tiem I sued gparted it ruined my winodws partition
[06:35] <Aggort> used* time*
[06:35] <maddash> anyone know the package that installs "X11/Xlibs.h"?
[06:36] <Jordan_U> madman91: The Ubuntu install CD already has Gparted
[06:36] <Sutur> timfrost: ?
[06:36] <nevron> i see elyon bur i still cant understand the real problem is there any other graphics related problems when you can enter a gnome session
[06:36] <madman91> Jordan_U: isnt the gparted standalone livecd better?
[06:36] <LookTj> any other ideas?
[06:36] <Aggort> Anyone else have a clue
[06:36] <Aggort> cus I really want to install ubuntu
[06:36] <madman91> Aggort: then use partition magic.. get it by any means nessseccary
[06:36] <maddash> x-dev and x11proto-core-dev does squat
[06:36] <Aggort> but I am filled with Windows
[06:36] <bimberi> maddash: do a contents search on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[06:37] <Jordan_U> madman91: In what way? It may contain a newer version but that is about it AFIK
[06:37] <elyon> nevron:  Okay... the problem basically is my mouse cursor doesn't match up to where my mouse actually IS.  By that I mean if I click on a button, nothing happens.  But if I move my mouse cursor to just the right BLANK screen space, the tool tip for that button shows up and I can click that.
[06:37] <freshbrnt> an alternative to part magic if you want to dual boot is BootIt next gen boot manager
[06:37] <christian1222> hi, what is a good program to use to transfer files via ftp?
[06:37] <madman91> Jordan_U: i read the comments and people said it resizes ntfs fine
[06:37] <madman91> christian1222: an ftp client ?
[06:37] <madman91> !ftp
[06:37] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[06:37] <Aggort> Ok any legal fee ways to resize this partition
[06:37] <christian1222> madman91: sure
[06:38] <madman91> christian1222: !ftp
[06:38] <maddash> bimberi: doh! thanks
[06:38] <christian1222> madman91: thanks
[06:38] <LameBMX> no ioftpd or drftpd :P
[06:38] <madman91> christian1222: np
[06:38] <Aggort> anyone?
[06:38] <timfrost> Sutur: no idea.   Can you pastebin the output of the command 'df -k'?
[06:38] <nevron> ok elyon the same thing happens when i quit my session and try to get to another session like xgl on top of gnome but when i log in to the xgl session everything works fine
[06:39] <freshbrnt> www.bootdisks.com get the nt bootdisk and use fdisk but it will be destructive to data on the disk i.e. must reformat
[06:39] <madman91> christian1222: did you get anything when i wrote !ftp ?
[06:39] <elyon> nevron:  Everything works perfectly once I'm actually logged in.  This problem only shows up on the login screen.
[06:39] <Jordan_U> Aggort: IMHO parted is more reliable than any other partitioner
[06:39] <madman91> !help
[06:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:39] <christian1222> madman91: i didnt, but that may be because you did it right before that
[06:39] <christian1222> madman91: or its because you didnt pipe it
[06:39] <christian1222> madman91 | !ftp
[06:39] <Aggort> Jordan_: Will it mess up my windows partition if I resize C:\ ?
[06:39] <christian1222> madman91: did that work?
[06:39] <freshbrnt> elyon: just claim it is an added security feature for logging in and patent the technology you'll make millions lol
[06:39] <madman91> !tell christian1222 about ftp
[06:39] <Sutur> timfrost: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215177
[06:40] <madman91> christian1222: no... did that?
[06:40] <Sutur> madman91: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215177
[06:40] <nevron> im my case the cursor seems three or four lines over the actual place it should be
[06:40] <christian1222> madman91: nope
[06:40] <christian1222> !ftp | madman91
[06:40] <ubotu> madman91: FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[06:40] <christian1222> madman91: how about htat?
[06:40] <_aa-> wow! only 3 days for my ubuntu-virgin ass to get my damned wireless device working...
[06:40] <madman91> nope
[06:40] <elyon> freshbrnt:  I'd rather just find someone that knows how to change the resolution... but I'll definitely consider such an opportunity once my problem is fixed :P
[06:40] <nevron> elyon did you try using different resolutions?
[06:41] <elyon> nevron:  Don't know HOW to change it... and neither does anyone else in here.
[06:41] <christian1222> madman91: really, it shows that it did on my screen
[06:41] <elyon> nevron:  Like I said, I've asked this several times for over a week and get ignored every time :(
[06:41] <marcus_> !restrictedformats
[06:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:41] <Jordan_U> Aggort: You can never guarentee that but yes, run chkdisk ( or whatever the command is in windows ) first because rezising an already corrupted partition will obviously lead to bad things :)
[06:41] <madman91> christian1222: yea it did
[06:41] <nevron> no i meant using different resolution in your session actually
[06:41] <freshbrnt> i messed with the settings that allow you to change the background for the login manager does anyone know of a setting in it that could fix his problem?
[06:41] <madman91> !ftp christian1222
[06:41] <ubotu> ftp: The FTP client. In component main, is standard. Version 0.17-16 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 152 kB
[06:41] <madman91> ! christian1222  ftp
[06:41] <The_Jack_of_Club> how come linux works so crappy with a docking station when windows works so well with it?
[06:42] <elyon> nevron:  In my session works perfectly at the resolution I set it to.  Now sure how changing that would work.  but for some reason the login manager refuses to use any resolution OTHER than 1280x[something] 
[06:42] <maddash> jackofclub: define crappy
[06:42] <nevron> like change your resolution of your desktop than restart x by usin ctrl alt backspace if that resolves the issue maybe someone else can tell you what to do next
[06:42] <christian1222> madman91: the one '!ftp christian1222' worked, but it didnt send it to me, it sent to everyone
[06:42] <The_Jack_of_Club> madmad91 i think its "!ftp | christian1222"
[06:42] <elyon> The_Jack_of_Club:  Operator's error, most likely.
[06:42] <madman91> christian1222: yeah.. i read this
[06:42] <nevron> hmm i see
[06:42] <Jordan_U> The_Jack_of_Club: Probalby because all of the drivers for it had to be reverse engeneered ( the maker of it won't release any specifications for it )
[06:42] <madman91> christian1222:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:42] <madman91> christian1222: that didnt help
[06:43] <christian1222> madman91: so you got that one then?
[06:43] <christian1222> The_Jack_of_Club: thanks
[06:43] <nevron> ok i am almost sure that this will be a useless act but can you somehow paste bin your xorg.conf to somewhere?
[06:43] <Aggort> This drive isn't corrupted
[06:43] <madman91> christian1222: yea
[06:43] <Aggort> so now what?
[06:43] <elyon> nevron:  Mine?
[06:43] <christian1222> madman91: good stuff :)
[06:43] <nevron> yes elyon
[06:43] <The_Jack_of_Club> msddish it crashes xserver it resets my resolutions it freaks with the change in network card and it comes up with so many hardware errors
[06:43] <nevron> and also are you using dual screens?
[06:43] <freshbrnt> aggort: what exactly are you trying to do?
[06:43] <Sutur> timfrost: sutur@Muspell:~$ df -k |grep Storage
[06:43] <Sutur> /dev/hdb1            240365208 227295456    859828 100% /media/Storage
[06:44] <christian1222> madman91: that might be the first time i've ever actually helped someone else on here (well kinda)
[06:44] <elyon> nevron:  Nope... just one little ol' monitor.
[06:44] <madman91> christian1222: i love just randomly testing this in a chat room :D
[06:44] <nevron> ok elyon let me have a look at your xorg.conf
[06:44] <madman91> christian1222: yeah.. it was a testing process
[06:44] <Aggort> I am trying to resize C:\ to a smaller ammount to create more unallocated space for ubuntu to install on
[06:44] <christian1222> madman91: haha
[06:44] <elyon> nevron:  What's the path to that again?
[06:44] <freshbrnt> without disturbing you windowsxp on c:\
[06:44] <Jbirk> is it easy to update to Edgy?
[06:44] <madman91> christian1222: so what was it ? ...
[06:44] <h00t> can anyone point me to a good url w/ some tips on how to make ubuntu faster or more responsive
[06:45] <christian1222> !ftp | madman91
[06:45] <ubotu> madman91: FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[06:45] <nevron> ok open a terminal and write "sudo gedit /etc/xorg.conf"
[06:45] <Aggort> freshbrnt: I am trying to resize C:\ to a smaller ammount to create more unallocated space for ubuntu to install on
[06:45] <LameBMX> !xubuntu | h00t
[06:45] <ubotu> h00t: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[06:45] <LameBMX> lol
[06:45] <christian1222> madman91: just pipe the standard output to the user
[06:45] <madman91> christian1222: yup
[06:45] <h00t> i like gnome
[06:45] <freshbrnt> is apt-get picky of connection speed? i have crappy dialup
[06:45] <elyon> nevron:  wow...that gave me a lot of errors.  Never seen that when running gedit before.
[06:46] <Jordan_U> h00t: Gnome is what is most likely slowing things down
[06:46] <madman91> freshbrnt: test it out:
[06:46] <LameBMX> h00t, sorry first thing i could think of off the top of my head lol
[06:46] <nevron> :)
[06:46] <elyon> nevron:  it also says my xorg.conf file is completely empty!
[06:46] <LameBMX> i used to run gentoo + fluxbox for a while .. that was ubber fast
[06:46] <Aggort> someone plz help
[06:46] <Jordan_U> elyon: Are you sure you have the path correct?
[06:46] <elyon> nevron:  Wasn't it supposed to be in an X11 folder?
[06:46] <nevron> elyon i am sorry
[06:46] <dannydrifffft> im having a problem where i get the orange background with black choppiness. i get the sound when the installation menu comes up, but the window never comes up. i've tried the vga=771, tried the safe graphics mode, tried the 640x480x16 and still the same results. does anyone else have any other suggestions?
[06:46] <h00t> gnome is a nice middle of the road between simple beauty of xfce & bloated kde
[06:47] <nevron> the path actually is" sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[06:47] <twisties> !teamspeak
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about teamspeak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <LameBMX> elyon, sudo first? .. /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:47] <freshbrnt> have to get it to recognize my network first, one xp machine just sits there connected to net, goes to linksys router to xbox via wire, another xp via wire, ubuntu pc via wire, and laptop via 802.11g
[06:47] <elyon> LameBMX:  Yeah... he just forgot the X11 part ;)
[06:47] <nevron> :P
[06:47] <elyon> Still gave me a ton of errors in the console, but now at least I have a file with info in it.
[06:47] <LameBMX> elyon, or sudo nano /e<tab>X<tab>xo<tab>
[06:47] <freshbrnt> cant get ubuntu to use the network, too many windows boxes on it prolly
[06:47] <nevron> i have the same errors gtk is complaning about some pixmap engine
[06:48] <maddash> lamebmx: you actually compiled gentoo?
[06:48] <elyon> nevron:  Exactly.
[06:48] <elyon> nevron:  I've never seen that before.
[06:48] <nevron> i think that we are encountering a similar bug
[06:48] <LameBMX> maddash 2005.0
[06:48] <Jordan_U> elyon: Not all output is an error, is it just coming from stdout?
[06:48] <freshbrnt> !fluxbox
[06:48] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[06:48] <elyon> Jordan_U:  Its a GTK warning...
[06:48] <LameBMX> back when they still had stage3 on disc n stuff ... before the silly gui ...
[06:49] <LameBMX> fluxbox rocks
[06:49] <Aggort> This whole partition thign is really bugging me
[06:49] <elyon> Jordan_U:  "(gedit:29061): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap","
[06:49] <nevron> asame thing here elyon exactly the same lines
[06:49] <timfrost> Sutur: Those numbers indicate that there is 5% (=12Gb) still reserved, despite your attempting to set the reserved size to zero.
[06:49] <Jordan_U> Aggort: Just use Gparted
[06:50] <freshbrnt> what are the main differences in xfce gnome and kde are they just visual or does it behave/contain different things?
[06:50] <Aggort> Jordan_U: What if it ruins my NTFS and thus ruinign Windows?
[06:50] <freshbrnt> reinstall ms virii i mean windows
[06:50] <dannydrifffft> im having a problem where i get the orange background with black choppiness. i get the sound when the installation menu comes up, but the window never comes up. i've tried the vga=771, tried the safe graphics mode, tried the 640x480x16 and still the same results. does anyone else have any other suggestions?
[06:50] <maddash> lamebmx: openbox is faster
[06:50] <elyon> Aggort:  There are risks involved with installing a new OS or partitioning.  Make a backup, then go for it.
[06:51] <Jordan_U> Aggort: Then you restore from your backup :)
[06:51] <vbgunz> kubuntu
[06:51] <LameBMX> freshbrnt, best way to describe the difference would be to try them out .. ive only played with kde a lil bit ... a lot with fluxbox .. and now gnome
[06:51] <LameBMX> blackbox .. maddash
[06:51] <Aggort> What I mean is how does Gprarted repartiti?on?
[06:51] <timfrost> freshbrnt: The 3 different display managers have different appearances, and different sets of preferred applications.
[06:51] <jordo23> Everytime I try to install a package (apt-get install) I get a message stating that the following dependent packages are installed and no longer required. Then a list of essential packages on my system are listed. Apt-get autoremove does not want to fix this....any ideas?
[06:51] <maddash> lamebmx: :P how long did the compile take? were you able to install deb packages?
[06:51] <nevron> jordan partition your drives in windows it is easier
[06:51] <freshbrnt> which one is fluxbox? kde?
[06:51] <LameBMX> lol .. but fluxbox had that lovely left click menu .. it was nice
[06:51] <Aggort> Will it know to keep my NTFS safe and intact?
[06:51] <elyon> grrr... why can't I just go ONE day without Firefox forcing me to restart just to run it!?!
[06:51] <freshbrnt> or is it a fourth
[06:51] <LameBMX> fluxbox is its own freshbrnt
[06:52] <christian1222> so this might sound kind of wierd, but is there a way to sort of "mount" an ftp site somewhere so you can access the files that way?
[06:52] <madman91> !beryl  | madman91
[06:52] <ubotu> madman91: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:52] <christian1222> i dont know what im doing with ftp generally
[06:52] <Jordan_U> nevron: I don't have windows but I don't see how it could be any easier than gparted
[06:52] <nevron> aggort just use acronis or some other graphic user interfaced partitioner on your windows
[06:52] <LameBMX> i wonder how flux and beryl would get along ...
[06:52] <nevron> it will be easier for you
[06:52] <maddash> haha
[06:52] <Aggort> nevron: free?
[06:52] <maddash> flux was slow as hell for me
[06:52] <elyon> oh grr... I give up for now.
[06:52] <Sutur> timfrost: Luckily I have this hard drive mirrored with an identical one. Tonight I will juggle the data from one to the other while formatting both drives from ext3 to ext2. I don't think I need journalling on storage drives anyway.
[06:53] <elyon> I'll just try asking again tomorrow, I guess.
[06:53] <nevron> i am sorry aggort of course it is not free it works on windows :)
[06:53] <Pan7h3r> Hmmm
[06:53] <LameBMX> huh ... what did you do to it .. it flew for me .. had to try to break 220MB used ram lol
[06:53] <freshbrnt> aggort just break down and find the torrent for partition magic
[06:53] <LameBMX> well 200ish ..
[06:53] <Aggort> true
[06:53] <freshbrnt> use emule or azerius
[06:53] <LameBMX> doubled the 2 and not the 0
[06:53] <nevron> just download a cracked version from wemule
[06:53] <Aggort> yea yea
[06:53] <Aggort> I can get one from a friend of mine
[06:54] <Aggort> willthe downlaod take long though
[06:54] <kirk> How do you make special (accented) characters in Ubuntu. I know on my previous install I had it set up so that I could do it by holding my right alt key and then pressing the accent and the letter, but it dosen't work now
[06:54] <Pan7h3r> Ok
[06:54] <nevron> aggort do you have msn i can send it to you if you do have an msn account
[06:54] <Jordan_U> Aggort: There is no program which will guaretntee resizing won't F*** things up, not even partition magic
[06:54] <Aggort> no sorry
[06:54] <freshbrnt> if you start emule, finish your doctorate, rewrite the software yourself from scratch then the d/l will finish
[06:54] <maddash> lamebmx: 200-ish alone? w/o anything but flux running?
[06:54] <freshbrnt> j/k
[06:54] <freshbrnt> but emule is slow
[06:54] <EmmJayKay> So, uh, how do I join as a developer?
[06:54] <LameBMX> maddash .. no with lots of things running ...
[06:54] <elyon> freshbrnt:  That's why I love torrents ;)
[06:55] <LameBMX> maddash, that and its so anti explorer feeling
[06:55] <maddash> lamebmx: when I installed flux, I had wdm launch it, via .xsession ("exec fluxbox")....and I didn't configure anything
[06:55] <elyon> Back in my piracy days, I'd download tons of stuff over night...
[06:55] <vbgunz> When you click on an applications icon, and go to Advanced, whats the difference between "special window settings" AND "special application settings"? they don't seem different at all?
[06:55] <Spinnaker> Good morning everybody!
[06:55] <Aggort> What is different than gparted and partition magic?
[06:55] <bimberi> !motu | EmmJayKay
[06:55] <ubotu> EmmJayKay: motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[06:55] <LameBMX> maddash .. i didnt have a wm like that .. it launched from startx :)
[06:56] <maddash> lamebmx: I can't, for the life of me, bring down "sudo free" to < 200 mb used phys mem
[06:56] <freshbrnt> aggort, ok here is the end all be all, go to www.9down.com and search for partition magic, there should be a rapid share link for it or just search thier site for the word partition
[06:56] <EmmJayKay> Ah
[06:56] <EmmJayKay> Then that's where I will go
[06:56] <n2diy> Aggort: gparted is free?
[06:56] <maddash> lamebmx: wdm is like gdm/xdm - login manager
[06:56] <Aggort> is that it?
[06:56] <nevron> elyon if you happen to see DBO he will probably be able to resolve your issue
[06:56] <Jordan_U> Aggort: pretty much
[06:56] <Aggort> n2diy: That's it do they do the same thing?
[06:56] <Aggort> uggh
[06:56] <Aggort> then what;'s the sue
[06:56] <LameBMX> ummm maddash .. i dont think thats possible .. been a long while but i think true free is free - cached
[06:56] <whyameye> what plugin should I download for .dcr in firefox?
[06:56] <Aggort> use*
[06:57] <LameBMX> maddash .. i didnt have a login manager
[06:57] <Jordan_U> Aggort: People who don't know about FOSS buy partition magic
[06:57] <n2diy> Aggort: from what I hear yes, I have never used gparted, and haven't used PM in years.
[06:57] <elyon> nevron:  I'm sure there are a lot of people here that could.... but they don't :/  Cursed for being a noob.
[06:57] <nevron> :(
[06:58] <Aggort> ok so I'll use Gparted how?
[06:58] <Lierodeath> Can anyone here give me help setting up a Belkin f5d7050 wireless USB adaptor?
[06:58] <freshbrnt> !FOSS
[06:58] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[06:58] <n2diy> Aggort: have you ever used that or PM?
[06:58] <Aggort> I used PM
[06:58] <Aggort> in school
[06:58] <LameBMX> maddash, nvm .. this free tells it like it is
[06:58] <Mr-NONO> HI, does ubuntu support multi monitors?
[06:58] <Aggort> But How do I instal gparted?
[06:58] <elyon> Aggort:  Then you'll be fine with gparted :
[06:59] <maddash> lamebmx: what do you mean, "true free is free - cached"?
[06:59] <nevron> Mr-MONO it does
[06:59] <Aggort> Install it on hard drive or msut it boot?
[06:59] <Jordan_U> Aggort: Either using the gparted LiveCD http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php Or just follow the instructions when you install Ubuntu ( ubuntu uses gparted )
[06:59] <n2diy> Aggort: Ok, so you know the first three things to do, is backup, backup, and backup right?
[06:59] <Aggort> yup
[06:59] <Mr-NONO> nevron, how can i accomplish this?
[06:59] <LameBMX> back when i was playin with that stuff .. free showed used and cached .. and free was shown as total - used
[06:59] <maddash> lamebmx: well, I do notice that the numbers returned by "free" after I run and close synaptic are way of the charts - like 330mb or so
[06:59] <nevron> Mr-NONO what graphics card are you using?
[06:59] <n2diy> Aggort: once your done doing that, go for it.
[06:59] <Mr-NONO> geforce fx 5200
[07:00] <Aggort> DO I jsut put the CD in and reboot or jsut put the CD in?
[07:00] <LameBMX> since cached isnt locked and can be overwritten
[07:00] <Jordan_U> Aggort: you need to reboot
[07:00] <Aggort> that's what worries me
[07:00] <Aggort> lol
[07:00] <Jordan_U> Aggort: Why?
[07:00] <nevron> Mr-NONO i think there is a setting in your xorg.conf you can use xinerama option or the twinview but i really dont know about nvidia cards i am using ati
[07:00] <Aggort> That's what I did last time and I lsot everything
[07:01] <nevron> let me search for it in the forums Mr-NONO
[07:01] <LameBMX> maddash, dont know ... maybe synaptic requests more ram when you run it so it has some to start installs .. kinda like how the windows ram free'ers workd
[07:01] <Mr-NONO> oh ok, thx nevron, i will come ehere after i install ubuntu i guess
[07:01] <n2diy> Aggort: What happened to your backups?
[07:01] <nevron> ok NONO
[07:01] <Mr-NONO> is there a beta version of next release available?
[07:01] <Jordan_U> Aggort: It is safest to resize partitions when they are unmounted, If you are booted off of it it is kind of hrd to unmount it :)
[07:02] <Jordan_U> *hard
[07:02] <freeride> hey, anyone use the superkaramba hmail theme?
[07:02] <n2diy> Aggort: What happened to your backups?
[07:02] <maddash> lamebmx: no, this is after I close everything - including X.org
[07:02] <Aggort> They failed
[07:02] <maddash> ach
[07:02] <freeride> anyone use the superkaramba hmail theme?
[07:03] <n2diy> Aggort: Then you need to test them before doing something like this.
[07:03] <Aggort> I did
[07:03] <Aggort> I hope this works
[07:04] <n2diy> Aggort: And if it doesn't, I hope your backups work!
[07:04] <Bakefy> can anyone point me to a link on how to use ndswrapper on a wireless card?
[07:04] <Aggort> lol if not I have a lot of reinstalling
[07:04] <lieaaon> !ndiswrapper
[07:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:04] <n2diy> Aggort: yep, been there done that, recently.
[07:04] <Aggort> Ouch
[07:04] <lieaaon> Bakefy: ^^
[07:04] <Aggort> well hey at least if I have to reinstall I can create the partition
[07:04] <Aggort> lol
[07:05] <Pan7h3r> Hmmm
[07:05] <Bakefy> thanks lieaaon
[07:05] <Aggort> be back soon
[07:05] <Aggort> I hope
[07:05] <n2diy> Aggort: :) You couldn't have this much fun with Winders.
[07:05] <Aggort> nope
[07:06] <Pan7h3r> OK
[07:06] <lieaaon> Bakefy: np, I've spent the last 3 days getting my damned wireless usb device up and running... so lemme know if those aren't helpful
[07:06] <LameBMX> k kde seems nice
[07:06] <elyon> Aggort - You use Windows - you should be USED to reinstalling ;)
[07:06] <dannydrifffft> im having a problem where i get the orange background with black choppiness. i get the sound when the installation menu comes up, but the window never comes up. i've tried the vga=771, tried the safe graphics mode, tried the 640x480x16 and still the same results. does anyone else have any other suggestions?
[07:06] <n2diy> LameBMX: what is the meaning of "k"?
[07:07] <linux1> getting a error using xnest or xephyr on 6.10, Fatal server error, server is already active, how do i fix this?
[07:07] <Lethargy_4> anyone use lcdproc
[07:07] <llama32> is there any trouble in terms of ubuntu/linux/tools/media players/... support for the zen neeon 2 range?
[07:07] <Bakefy> lieaaon, I have airlink that I have never had luck with on linux.  it will show the wireless acess points, but never really conect
[07:07] <elyon> Someone PLEASE help me - I need to change the resolution that is used for the login screen!
[07:07] <h3xis> llama32, what is the zen neeon 2 range? i have a zen neeon and it works fine
[07:08] <linux1>  getting a error using xnest or xephyr on 6.10, Fatal server error, server is already active, how do i fix this
[07:08] <Pan7h3r> Hmmm
[07:08] <lieaaon> Bakefy: which one specifically?
[07:08] <llama32> h3xis: http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/459c995b080d63e22741c0a87f9c06fe/Product/View/A4953 i don't know if there's any real difference to normal zen neeon
[07:08] <Bakefy> it looks like a thumb driver
[07:09] <Bakefy> I will give you the serial number... lieaaon
[07:09] <Bakefy> lieaaon: AWLL3026
[07:09] <LameBMX> k == ok
[07:09] <n2diy> LameBMX: what is the meaning of "k"?
[07:09] <Pan7h3r> OK
[07:09] <n2diy> LameBMX: ok.
[07:10] <lieaaon> Bakefy: Have you tried looking up to see if theres a different driver for it?
[07:10] <h3xis> llama32, okay mine cant play videos. i would assume they work the same but i mount mine like it's a flash drive and im able to transfer music and stuff to it, there's just no front end application or anything to organize or create playlists
[07:10] <LameBMX> well beryl crashed out kde .. but dont wanna start on xfce
[07:10] <LameBMX> :/
[07:10] <Bakefy> lieaaon: It shows it on my network settings, how can I tell if it is connected?
[07:10] <linux1>  getting a error using xnest or xephyr on 6.10, Fatal server error, server is already active, how do i fix this
[07:10] <Bakefy> lieaaon: no, I am fairly new with linux
[07:10] <frenchfry929> I'm dual booting windows and ubuntu on my laptop.... I'm wanting to get rid of windows and resize ubuntu to take up windows former space.... any suggestions?
[07:10] <n2diy> ! enter | linux1
[07:10] <ubotu> linux1: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:10] <llama32> h3xis: sweet. better than only having a frontend application and no direct mounting, anyway
[07:11] <n2diy> whoops
[07:11] <h3xis> yeah
[07:11] <lieaaon> Bakefy: You say you can see wireless networks in your network settings?
[07:11] <Pan7h3r> Cool!
[07:11] <brussel> How do I tell ubuntu the type of mouse I have?
[07:11] <linux1>  getting a error using xnest or xephyr on 6.10, Fatal server error, server is already active, how do i fix this?
[07:11] <Bakefy> lieaaon: wireless connection
[07:12] <frenchfry929> how can I add free space on to ubuntu's partition?
[07:12] <n2diy> brussel: click on system-preferences-mouse?
[07:12] <lieaaon> Bakefy: The Ubuntu wiki page says it should work out of the box, so, you might want to make sure that when you open 'Network' you enable the wirless device, and disable all others
[07:12] <Pan7h3r> Yeah
[07:12] <lieaaon> Bakefy: 'activate' rather
[07:13] <Bakefy> okay, so I will uncheck the wired connection and see if I get a connection
[07:13] <lieaaon> Bakefy:  ok
[07:13] <Pan7h3r> No
[07:13] <elyon> Someone PLEASE help me - I need to change the resolution that is used for the login screen!
[07:14] <frenchfry929> how do I add free space onto Ubuntu's partition?
[07:14] <lieaaon> Bakefy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessNetworking  <- this might help too if that doesn't work
[07:14] <brussel> n2diy, that simply allows me to customize the speed of the mouse and such, but I have a mouse with many buttons that I'd like to set.
[07:14] <Bakefy> test
[07:14] <ElReyPeste> hmmm... im kind of losing my temper with the kubuntu edgy install CD. I start the computer, and after the initial menu it keeps sending me directly to the command line...
[07:14] <n2diy> ! hardware | brussel
[07:14] <ubotu> brussel: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:14] <Bakefy> yeah, didnt really work..
[07:15] <JulieJulie> hey there all
[07:15] <frenchfry929> how do I add free space onto Ubuntu's partition?
[07:15] <JulieJulie> Im not able to install Ubuntu 6.10 should I try 6.6 is it?
[07:15] <twisties> Anyone know how to setup sound for use with TeamSpeak?
[07:15] <Pie-rate> is there any reason to switch to x86-64?
[07:15] <Bakefy> lieaaon: where did you see that it would work right out of the box?
[07:15] <brussel> I want to tell it the type of mouse I have so it knows that I have extra buttons. There's nothing in the menus that allow me to tell it the mouse I have?
[07:15] <n2diy> JulieJulie: 6.06, by all means yes.
[07:16] <JulieJulie> Its just getting tedious cause it is stopping at the command prompt of an error of trying to free free buffer
[07:16] <maddash> when I enter in "shutdown" as a regular user, bash returns "command not found." but when I do, "sudo shutdown", it works fine. any ideas why bash couldn't even find shutdown without sudo?
[07:16] <IntuitiveNipple> elyon: have you looked in the Ubuntu forums?
[07:16] <frenchfry929> how do I add free space onto Ubuntu's partition?
[07:16] <noiesmo> maddash, only root can shutdown a system from commandline
[07:16] <IntuitiveNipple> elyon: read this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151192
[07:16] <noiesmo> frenchfry929, is it already partition and formated
[07:17] <n2diy> JulieJulie: a lot of the problems seen here are related to 6.10, 6.06 is the current stable LTS.
[07:17] <JulieJulie> n2diy : I can just download it and make another image and see how it goes?
[07:17] <maddash> noiesmo: that wasn't my question.
[07:17] <frenchfry929> how do I add free space onto Ubuntu's partition?
[07:17] <n2diy> JulieJulie: go for it.
[07:17] <maddash> noiesmo: read the last part of my question
[07:18] <JulieJulie> n2diy: heh easy enough I'll see how it goes.
[07:18] <maddash> when I enter in "shutdown" as a regular user, bash ***returns "command not found."*** but when I do, "sudo shutdown", it works fine. any ideas why bash **couldn't even find shutdown** without sudo?
[07:18] <brussel> n2diy, ubotu: Ok, checked out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMouseLogitech and discovered there's not much support there.
[07:18] <n2diy> maddash: user aren't allowed to shutdown a system.
[07:18] <lieaaon> Bakefy:  see your PM
[07:19] <n2diy> JulieJulie: good luck.
[07:19] <Bakefy> lieaaon: I can't see a pm
[07:19] <maddash> n2diy: that wasn't my question
[07:19] <elyon> IntuitiveNipple:  I looked at that post, but my xorg.conf file makes NO mention of 1280 resolution (but that is the resolution my login screen uses)
[07:19] <n2diy> brussel: good luck then, and Ubotu is the robot, so you don't need to reply to "him". :)
[07:19] <lieaaon> Bakefy:  type /msg lieaaon test
[07:20] <maddash> when I enter in "shutdown" as a regular user, bash ***returns "command not found."*** but when I do, "sudo shutdown", it works fine. any ideas why bash **couldn't even find shutdown** without sudo (ie, bash returns "SHUTDOWN: COMMAND NOT FOUND" instead of "you must be root" etc)
[07:20] <n2diy> maddash: you asked the wrong question, the user couldn't find the file, because he isn't allowed to use it.
[07:20] <Bakefy> I don't have a seperate window with you in there lieaaon
[07:20] <maddash> n2diy no, that's not true. in my previous breezy install, I could do "shutdown"
[07:21] <brussel> n2diy, lol, didn't realize that's a robot. I just wish hardware vendors would go the extra mile and supply support to the top 20 platforms.
[07:21] <Bakefy> lieaaon: I am using xchat
[07:21] <maddash> n2diy: and bash would return, "you must be root to do that!"
[07:21] <brussel> Why does linux use bash instead of ksh?
[07:21] <n2diy> maddash: roger all that, apparently things have changed?
[07:21] <lieaaon> Bakefy: In your Networking menu can you see any networks on the drop down list?
[07:22] <maddash> n2diy: how?
[07:22] <maddash> n2diy: I know it has to do w/some config file...
[07:22] <n2diy> maddash: What are you running now, Dapper?
[07:22] <Bakefy> no
[07:22] <maddash> n2diy breezy-server.
[07:22] <timfrost> maddash: shutdown is in /sbin.  That appears to *not* be in your default path, but is available via sudo.
[07:22] <Bakefy> lieaaon: No
[07:22] <Bakefy> lieaaon: I assume you mean the ssid
[07:23] <lieaaon> Bakefy: Have you installed ndiswrapper? Yes I meant the ssid
[07:23] <maddash> timfrost: nice  one. can I just sudo mv it back to /usr?
[07:23] <Bakefy> I don't think so
[07:23] <n2diy> maddash: Maybe it is a config file, but at the moment, I'm not sure what to tell you?
[07:23] <Bakefy> I will try
[07:23] <maddash> timfrost: er I mean't /usr/bbin
[07:23] <marcus_> having problem seeing my windows network in ubuntu
[07:23] <maddash> timfrost: er geez I meant /usr/bin
[07:23] <lieaaon> Bakefy: ok, do you have the installation CD?
[07:23] <n2diy> ! shutdown
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shutdown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <maddash> n2diy: the problem is not just shutdown
[07:24] <maddash> n2diy: i just picked shutdown as an example
[07:24] <Bakefy> no, i am just going to grab it from the synaptic
[07:24] <timfrost> maddash: it may be easier to add /sbin to your path.  Probably by editting ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc
[07:24] <Bakefy> lieaaon ^^
[07:24] <killermach__> I noticed there is no PDF printer, I installed cups-pdf and still do not have a PDF printer when I click File->Print, any hints??
[07:24] <maddash> n2diy all the programs you would run in sudo are relocated into sbin
[07:24] <n2diy> maddash: server is CLI only right?
[07:24] <maddash> timfrost: thanks a million
[07:24] <elyon> IntuitiveNipple:  Yeah... still no luck.
[07:25] <maddash> n2diy: no, I added openbox and xdm
[07:25] <n2diy> maddash: I lean towards a permission, group problem, and not a config problem.
[07:25] <maddash> timfrost: I'm using xterm...and bashrc doesn't exist...should I just create it? what syntax do I use? xml?
[07:25] <Bakefy> lieaaon: I am installing.
[07:26] <marcus_> having problem seeing my windows network in ubuntu
[07:26] <n2diy> maddash: If your running a server, you don't want just anybody to be able to shut it down.
[07:26] <maddash> n2diy: plain "e2fsck" returns a command-not-found. "sudo e2fsck" does.
[07:26] <elyon> Okay... is there another support channel for Ubuntu?
[07:26] <vbgunz> is it possible to dynamically change a Windows class?
[07:26] <lieaaon> Bakefy: ok, I think you might need a few other things I'm looking for them right now. What linux flavor are you using?
[07:26] <vbgunz> or role?
[07:26] <Bakefy> lieaaon: edgy
[07:27] <timfrost> maddash: try 'echo "PATH=\$PATH:/sbin;export PATH" >> ~/.bashrc'
[07:27] <n2diy> maddash: and if your running a server, do you want users running file system checks on it?
[07:27] <timfrost> maddash: that is bash (or bourne) shell syntax, whixhg is needed in .bashrc
[07:27] <maddash> timfrost: million thanks
[07:27] <ElReyPeste> ok, maybe you can help me, i have a dell dimension 5150, i dont use the integrated graphic card, when I run the kubuntu install cd it doesnt detect any monitor and doesnt start X, is there any way to make it work?
[07:28] <maddash> n2diy: timfrost's fix did it. shutdown returns the appropriate "you must be root" msg now.
[07:29] <n2diy> maddash: ok, I learned something, is it secure?
[07:29] <n2diy> ! whixhg
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whixhg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <maddash> n2diy: "whixhg" typo for "which"
[07:30] <maddash> n2diy: very. to the point where I have to manually configure everything that is done by default in ubuntu-desktop
[07:30] <NoEvidenZ> Is there a known compatibility issue between Dapper and 128bit WEP encryption?
[07:30] <lieaaon> Bakefy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[07:31] <n2diy> maddash: roger that, I knew I never heard of it! :)
[07:31] <lieaaon> that should be a good walk through
[07:31] <Bakefy> lieaaon: thank you
[07:31] <lieaaon> Bakefy: no problem, gotta run, good luck with that
[07:32] <n2diy> maddash: roger, I realized it was secure after re-reading your post, and it was prompting you for a password.
[07:32] <NoEvidenZ> Anyone know..?
[07:33] <n2diy> Is there a way to change keyboard layouts in a terminal?
[07:34] <cjones> what file is the background at login ?
[07:34] <maddash> n2diy: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[07:34] <maddash> cjones: depends on your login program
[07:34] <n2diy> maddash: with out using X.
[07:35] <cjones> maddash just the default
[07:35] <n2diy> maddash: and without answering 64 questions about the system. :)
[07:36] <Seta-San> ok, when i try to install ubuntu it sits on a loading screen and doesn't do anything
[07:36] <n2diy> ! keyboard
[07:36] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[07:36] <Seta-San> i'm sure i'm doing something stupid and wasy to fix
[07:36] <n2diy> ok
[07:36] <Seta-San> faqs don't really say much about it
[07:36] <Seta-San> this is a 6.10 disc i'm trying to install from
[07:36] <maddash> cjones: google "change gdm login background"
[07:36] <cjones> seta-san what ver are you useing
[07:37] <Seta-San> 6.10
[07:37] <maddash> cjones: your login manager is gdm
[07:37] <cjones> try the alt install disk
[07:37] <cjones> maddash thank you
[07:37] <n2diy> Seta-San: what screen does it get stuck on? How much RAM is installed?
[07:37] <Seta-San> OS: Windows 2003 Professional 5.2 SP1 (Build #3790) CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+, 2.01 GHz, 512KB Video: NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT (1440x900x32bpp 60Hz) Sound: SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [AC00]  Memory: Used: 575/1024MB Uptime: 10m 33s HD: Free: 158.99 GB/217.88 GB Connection: NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller - Packet Scheduler Miniport @ 100.0 Mbps (Rec: 20.02MB Sent: 19.02MB)
[07:37] <mzuverink> whichis responsible for battery power control? apmd or acpid?
[07:38] <n2diy> uh oh?
[07:38] <maddash> cjones: np
[07:38] <Seta-San> it's a gigabyte
[07:38] <n2diy> Seta-San: ok, that is plenty of RAM, what install screen does it stall on?
[07:39] <ElReyPeste> i am getting stuck also, after the kubuntu logo, i get a command line, i tried running xinit there, and it exits on "no screens found"
[07:39] <Seta-San> the one that says "UBUNTU" that has underlines
[07:39] <xmOD> is there any need for an antivirus for linux?
[07:39] <Seta-San> it's right after you hit hit enter for install on the disc's boot menu
[07:39] <n2diy> Seta-San: a terminal/command prompt type screen, or a GUI?
[07:39] <Seta-San> xmOD not unless you're running a mail server afaik
[07:39] <Acidictadpole> with irssi, when I get disconnected is there a way to rejoin all the channels automatically?
[07:40] <Acidictadpole> because all the windows are still there, is there any way to just tell them to reestablish themselves with a single command?
[07:40] <n2diy> ! nick
[07:40] <Seta-San> i guess gui... it just has a crappy VGA image of the Unbuntu script
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <killermach__> ok.. I added a Generic -> Color PostScript printer named PDFPrinter and I printed to it, but my job is still in the queue, cupsd is running, and I restarted it,.. but no PDF yet.. any hints??
[07:41] <mzuverink> apmd or acpid.. which is responsible for battery stuff?
[07:41] <IntuitiveNipple> Seta-San: try disabling the splash screen and quiet mode whilst it boots... to do that, at the Ubuntu boot menu, press F6 then remove "quiet splash" from the boot command line, then press Enter to continue booting. You'll get to see all the hardware device probes and where it gets stuck, hopefully.
[07:41] <IntuitiveNipple> mzuverink: apm
[07:41] <concept10> Someone tell me why thunar is soooo much faster than nautilus?
[07:41] <n2diy> Seta-San: ok, the installer is having trouble determining your video hardware, at the boot prompt, check out your options using F2 and F3
[07:42] <ElReyPeste> hello? maybe somebody wants to help me? (sorry if im being to naggy, im a bit frustrated)
[07:42] <Seta-San> http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9720/w2u218vo.png
[07:42] <Seta-San> it's at that screen
[07:42] <mzuverink> IntuitiveNipple, thanks
[07:42] <elyon> Okay, forgive me, but I'm really starting to get pissed off here.  I still need to fix my resolution problem with the login screen.  I've read a lot of what the forums have to say (about editing the xorg.conf) but NONE has helped.  My xorg.conf file doesn't even LIST the resolution that the login screen is using, so how can I move a different resolution in front of it?
[07:42] <Seta-San> except instead of getting a progress bar it has a couple verticle bars... that's perhaps a graphics distortion
[07:42] <xmOD> wat client can i use to access IRC on ubuntu besides GAIN
[07:42] <xmOD> *GAIM
[07:42] <LameBMX> elyon, what rez is your login screen running?
[07:43] <n2diy> ElReyPeste: try startx instead of xinit.
[07:43] <totall_6_7> xmOD: xchat, kvirc, mirc
[07:43] <Seta-San> it says nothing under the ubuntu logo
[07:43] <timfrost> !irc | xmOD
[07:43] <ubotu> xmOD: irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[07:43] <xmOD> xchat shows me a dependency issue
[07:43] <n2diy> Seta-San: ok, the installer is having trouble determining your video hardware, at the boot prompt, check out your options using F2 and F3
[07:43] <ElReyPeste> thanks n2diy, I still get the same error "no screens found"
[07:44] <Seta-San> n2diy what should i be looking for?
[07:44] <maddash> is it just me, or is gentoo starting to seem appealing?
[07:44] <LameBMX> maddash .. nah .. not since they moved to a windows-esque installer
[07:44] <elyon> LameBMX:  It appears to be running at 1280x1024.
[07:44] <IntuitiveNipple> Seta-San: you can try adding "vga=771" to the boot command line, too
[07:44] <maddash> oops. wrong window. let me retract my statement before I get banned.
[07:45] <elyon> LameBMX:  My xorg.conf only lists 1024x768 (which is what I want) and lower.
[07:45] <LameBMX> elyon, and this is a problem beeeccccaaauuuussseee?
[07:45] <noiesmo> when using aptitude to reslove dependancy problems, it gives me a score whats the go with that, is the higher the number worse than a lower number
[07:45] <maddash> elyon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:45] <LameBMX> ahhh ... ummm gimme a sec here elyon
[07:45] <elyon> LameBMX:  Because I have a 17 inch monitor AND because that resolution screwed up my mouse.
[07:45] <elyon> maddash:  Tried that too... no help.
[07:45] <LameBMX> nah maddash .. i know what it is
[07:45] <LameBMX> well 90% sure
[07:45] <Seta-San> ok i'll try i guess
[07:45] <maddash> lameBmx: :P
[07:46] <maddash> geez, i wanna install gentoo, but I'm going to lose all my friends here
[07:46] <maddash> wow that sounded lame
[07:46] <elyon> maddash:  poor widdle maddash gonna woose his fwends?
[07:47] <crimsun> maddash: why? Install it in a xen image/chroot running on a Ubuntu host.
[07:47] <n2diy> ElReyPeste: ok, your having a similiar problem as Seta-San is, explore your options at the boot prompt, with F2 and F3. Seta-San, I don't know?
[07:47] <LameBMX> elyon, go here and about halfway down you will see a box to set ur framebuffer resolution .. http://www.oreilly.com/pub/h/3124
[07:47] <tomcatt> !ubotu mouse
[07:47] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[07:47] <maddash> !image/chroot
[07:47] <maddash> !xen
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about image/chroot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[07:48] <LameBMX> elyon, test it first by changing the grub boot options with e on the os select and adding in vga=795 (for me)
[07:48] <LameBMX> elyon, if that fixes it add it to your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:48] <maddash> crimsun: no xen for me, I'm running breezy
[07:48] <Winter-1> anyone know why kopete and gaim dont work
[07:49] <n2diy> Any Ops around? Could Ubotu be upgraded to explain how to use nicks in replies?
[07:49] <elyon> LameBMX:  You lost me, bud...
[07:49] <LameBMX> elyon, i had the exact opposite issue .. 17" lcd ... looks like crap on anything but 1280x1024 .. doing that option force FB to 1280x1024 .. which forced the login manager to the FB rez .. which
[07:50] <LameBMX> elyon, you know how during grub you can edit a line by pressing "e"
[07:50] <NoEvidenZ> !help
[07:50] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:50] <elyon> LameBMX:  No, I didn't know
[07:50] <NoEvidenZ> !help > NoEvidenZ
[07:51] <LameBMX> elyon, look up on grub a bit .. cuz this is a bit tough to explain when you havent done it .....
[07:51] <n2diy> NoEvidenZ: you broke the bot! :)
[07:51] <NoEvidenZ> Orly?
[07:51] <Aggort> Well guys
[07:51] <Aggort> I sued gparted
[07:51] <Aggort> partitioned that drive
[07:51] <Aggort> and used*
[07:51] <Bakefy> can anyone assist me with ndiswrapper
[07:51] <NoEvidenZ> Aggort: How'd you go?
[07:52] <Aggort> and well now I have a disk read error problem
[07:52] <Aggort> and can;t access Windows
[07:52] <n2diy> ! enter | Aggort
[07:52] <ubotu> Aggort: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:52] <Aggort> lmao
[07:52] <Aggort> sorry
[07:52] <Aggort> I am just a bit on edge no pun intended
[07:52] <Aggort> Are there any fixes for this or did I just lose all my data?
[07:53] <LameBMX> ndiswrapper .. it precedes a hip-hop artists accomplishments at the bet music awards
[07:53] <maddash> ??
[07:53] <Aggort> anyone because nwo I REALLLLY need help
[07:53] <NoEvidenZ> Aggort: I have no idea. I'd say that you could recover it by mounting the drive in Linux or something, but er..
[07:53] <n2diy> Aggort: pray your backups are good.
[07:53] <NoEvidenZ> I did tell you to back up everyhting.
[07:53] <Aggort> lmao
[07:53] <maddash> aggort: mount the windows partition in a live cd
[07:53] <Aggort> I was afraid you'd say that
[07:54] <NoEvidenZ> You didn't back it up, did you Aggort?
[07:54] <Aggort> Well I can't use my back ups because they are on CD
[07:54] <Aggort> and I get the disk read error message so
[07:54] <Aggort> How do I mount the partition?
[07:54] <LameBMX> hmmm linux seems to have one edge on windows ... with windows .. if something gets really screwed linux tools can fix it .. but not the other way around
[07:54] <n2diy> Aggort: do you have a floppy drive?
[07:54] <Aggort> Yea
[07:54] <NoEvidenZ> LameBMX: How very very true.
[07:55] <Aggort> why?
[07:55] <n2diy> Aggort: do you have a boot floppy?
[07:55] <michael20la> is there a way i can extract all the files from an iso without mounting it?
[07:55] <Aggort> for XP?
[07:55] <maddash> aggort: it'll be mounted automatically if you use the livecd
[07:55] <NoEvidenZ> LameBMX: The hard drive on my dad's laptop went apeshit. I put in a live cd, mounted the drive, got on the network and backed everything up.
[07:55] <Aggort> no
[07:55] <maddash> aggort: you could also use fdisk
[07:55] <maddash> aggort: boot up from an xp install cd and run fdisk
[07:55] <n2diy> Aggort: :/
[07:55] <Aggort> maddash: I can't
[07:55] <Aggort> I get a disk read error
[07:55] <maddash> aggort: why not?
[07:56] <IntuitiveNipple> LameBX - a Windows Live CD is just as good
[07:56] <maddash> aggort: your cd doesn't work?
[07:56] <NoEvidenZ> Ok, i'm off to fix my own problem. Wish me luck!
[07:56] <IntuitiveNipple> depends on the issues, though
[07:56] <LameBMX> yea
[07:56] <maddash> aggort: your cd drive doesn't work?
[07:56] <Aggort> It just keeps sayign disk read error
[07:56] <Aggort> It says booting from CD .....
[07:56] <maddash> aggort: huh? you can't boot from a cd?
[07:56] <Aggort> and then disk read error
[07:56] <n2diy> Aggort: :Try the Winders CD.
[07:56] <LameBMX> the tools of harddrive recovery .. network ... linux ... freezer .. gravity
[07:57] <Aggort> Only from ubuntu or something it's odd
[07:57] <maddash> aggort: do it w/the windows cd
[07:57] <Aggort> I TRIED
[07:57] <Aggort> lol
[07:57] <timfrost> michael20la: Yes,  nautilus can open an ISO so that you can browse its contents, and copy them
[07:57] <IntuitiveNipple> I had an issue yesterday where the kernel got stuck in a loop, and the only way to fix was to boot a DOS floppy with Norton diskedit on it! I hadn't used that floppy in years
[07:57] <maddash> aggort: what can you boot from right now?
[07:58] <LKC> what does fakeroot do?
[07:58] <n2diy> Aggort: Hmm, so you can't boot from floppy or a cd, yuck.
[07:58] <LameBMX> it fakes root
[07:58] <maddash> !fakeroot
[07:58] <Aggort> Wehn I try to pen the resized NTFS partition it jsut says UnableTo Mount Slelected  Volume
[07:58] <LKC> does that mean its a bit like sudo?
[07:58] <ubotu> fakeroot: Gives a fake root environment. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.9ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 92 kB, installed size 376 kB
[07:58] <LameBMX> well i think its tools so apps can use root without there actually being a root acct
[07:58] <michael20la> timefrost: what about if im using kde desktop?
[07:58] <LameBMX> yea see ..
[07:59] <LameBMX> thax
[07:59] <Aggort> error: device /dev/hda1 is not removable
[07:59] <Aggort> error: could not execute pmount
[07:59] <LameBMX> man i wish mirc would just run in linux ... that chan sounds prone to fun scripts ...
[07:59] <LKC> in this line of command where would i put the file path?
[07:59] <n2diy> Aggort: So the system is attempting to read the HD, can you boot with Winders safe mode?
[07:59] <LKC> fakeroot sh ./ati-driver-installer-<version>.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy
[07:59] <IntuitiveNipple> does mirc not work with wine?
[07:59] <maddash> lamebmx: like what?
[07:59] <Aggort> shit I wonder
[07:59] <Aggort> I dunno
[08:00] <timfrost> michael20la: I believe that konqueror can open ISO images,  but I don't have KDE installed, so can't test it.
[08:00] <michael20la> timefrost: thx
[08:01] <LKC> im trying to set up my ati drivers so i need a little bit of help
[08:01] <n2diy> ! ati | LKC
[08:01] <ubotu> LKC: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:01] <xmOD> i need libdbus 1-2 for xchat.. where can i download it from? its not in synaptic...
[08:01] <Aggort> Why is my NTFS partition unmounted anyway?
[08:02] <LameBMX> on *:TEXT:*:#ubuntu:{ if ($nick == ubotu ) {write $1 triggers.txt} elseif ( $1 isin triggers.txt ) {.msg #ubuntu ! $+ $1 | $nick }}
[08:02] <LameBMX> like that maddash ^
[08:02] <LameBMX> need a smidgen of cleanin ... like i know you would need ascii for the pipe
[08:02] <Aggort> Anyone?
[08:02] <LameBMX> !dontexist
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dontexist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <n2diy> Aggort: Who cares, focus on the problem, can you boot into rescue/recovery mode?
[08:03] <LKC> im on that page and thats where that line came from but i have put the .run file some where and i want to know where in this line of code the folders url would go
[08:03] <tyme-> !wine | LameBMX
[08:03] <Aggort> I don;t know
[08:03] <ubotu> LameBMX: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:03] <LKC> fakeroot sh ./ati-driver-installer-<version>.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy
[08:03] <LameBMX> and a check so it dont rewrite triggers it knows
[08:03] <Seta-San> it didn't work
[08:03] <LameBMX> tyme-, i know this .. it dont run right under wine
[08:03] <tyme-> why not?
[08:03] <maddash> lamebmx: trying to flood ubotu?
[08:03] <LameBMX> just dont
[08:03] <xmOD> i need libdbus 1-2 for xchat.. where can i download it from? its not in synaptic...
[08:03] <Seta-San> F2, F3 are related to language and region
[08:03] <tyme-> xmOD:  yes it is.
[08:04] <Seta-San> and VGA=771 made it look more messed up
[08:04] <xmOD> i don see it tyme
[08:04] <LameBMX> maddash, i said it needed tweaking ... that caoncept popped into my head and that script hit the fingers lol
[08:04] <LKC> in this line where is the file path ? fakeroot sh ./ati-driver-installer-<version>.run --buildpkg
[08:04] <tyme-> use apt-get?
[08:04] <xmOD> libdbus 1-3 is there
[08:04] <Seta-San> does it make a difference it seems that i have the LIVE disc?
[08:04] <tyme-> !google | xmOD
[08:04] <ubotu> xmOD: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[08:04] <LameBMX> tyme-, but socket scripting and such dont seem to work too consistent under wine ... and more advanced scripts that axx the system
[08:04] <ElReyPeste> n2diy: I checked all options, and also the forum... it seems that it has to do with the graphics card, it doesnt get recognized... when i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it seems to get everything right, but as I am running the live-cd the settings dont get saved and I am stuck with the problem
[08:05] <tyme-> so create a perl/python script for xchat
[08:05] <Seta-San> ubuntu has problems with video options?
[08:05] <tyme-> although i too enjoy mirc's scripting engine.
[08:05] <tyme-> well.. enjoyed
[08:05] <LameBMX> never played with those
[08:05] <n2diy> ElReyPeste: can you google on your cards make, model and amount of ram, and Ubuntu, or Debian for a fix?
[08:06] <Seta-San> mirc is probably the best irc program
[08:06] <LameBMX> though i hear python is really powerfull stuff ... kinda scary cuz i had and ftp client / server / racer script a buddy of mine wrote
[08:06] <jdhoreotg> how can i convert OGG video (in Linux) to anything else (AVI, MPEG4, MPEG2, WMV, whatever)?
[08:06] <curs0r> anyone else having ansolutely no luck with liflg?
[08:06] <tyme-> Seta-San:  matter of !opinion
[08:06] <curs0r> absolutely*
[08:06] <DanaG> ogm is a container, not a codec.
[08:06] <jdhoreotg> i know
[08:07] <DanaG> One thing I've tried is avidemux.
[08:10] (DeadlyNinja/#ubuntu) how do i make apt ask me more questions when setting up packages?
[08:10] (Seta-San/#ubuntu) probably a dependancy isnt' there
[08:11] (n2diy/#ubuntu) Bhaskar: did you install the development package(s)
[08:11] (cdubya/#ubuntu) Bhaskar, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:11] (n2diy/#ubuntu) cdubya: thank you, I was drawing a blank on there name.
[08:11] <cdubya> np
[08:12] <Seta-San> can anyone give me any other options for getting ubuntu to work on my system?
[08:12] <Bhaskar> n2diy:ya
[08:12] <tyme-> Seta-San:  broad question
[08:12] <n2diy> Bhaskar: and build-essential installed without errors?
[08:12] <DanaG> Oh, is there any benefit to using ntfs-3g in read-only versus ntfs (old) in read-only?
[08:13] <LKC> how do i check if my drivers have installed?
[08:13] <Seta-San> it's not installing. it gets to the ubuntu logo and stops
[08:13] <n2diy> LKC: lsmod.
[08:13] <tyme-> LKC: fglrxinfo
[08:13] <Seta-San> there's supposed to be a progress bar there but there's not
[08:13] <tyme-> for ati
[08:13] <LKC> th
[08:13] <LKC> thx
[08:13] <LameBMX> DanaG, well the obvious ability to remount with write ability and not have to wait on it to install
[08:13] <Seta-San> instead there is a few verticle bars under the logo
[08:13] <Seta-San> and it stays frozen
[08:14] <tyme-> which part of the install process?
[08:14] <IntuitiveNipple> Seta-San: is this during booting the CD, or during Install of Ubuntu to the hard disk?
[08:14] <tyme-> booting to live cd? or in livecd
[08:14] <curs0r> anyone? liflg advice para me por favor?
[08:14] <Bhaskar> n2diy: i have install  development packages, then i compile other software but not working with ./configure,make and make install
[08:14] <kraut> moin
[08:14] <tyme-> are you using './configure, make and make install'
[08:14] <Seta-San> this is right after hitting the "Run or Install Ubuntu" option on the discs boot menu
[08:14] <tyme-> or ./configure && make && make install ?
[08:14] <n2diy> Bhaskar: are you in the directory where the make file is?
[08:14] <tyme-> Seta-San:  bad cd?
[08:15] <Seta-San> i had it check itself
[08:15] <tyme-> bad iso image?
[08:15] <Seta-San> it seems fine
[08:15] <tyme-> or hardware errors
[08:15] <LameBMX> Seta-San, first off .. hit F6 and backspace over quiet splash --
[08:15] <LameBMX> Seta-San,  and then boot it and see where it errors out at
[08:15] <Seta-San> and i'm having basically the same problem with mandriva
[08:15] <Bhaskar> n2diy: i am in /home
[08:16] <Seta-San> ok. F6 it is
[08:16] <n2diy> Bhaskar: is that where you un-archived the files?
[08:16] <LameBMX> Seta-San, you may have to hit F1 and read through that .. but im pretty sure its F6
[08:16] <maddash> god I can't stand it anymore. I must join the dark side. I've gotta install gentoo.
[08:16] <n2diy> Bhaskar: did you un-archive the files?
[08:16] <LameBMX> lol @ maddash
[08:16] <SaudiLinux> hi
[08:16] <LameBMX> how is that the darkside
[08:16] <SaudiLinux> 6.10 rules
[08:17] <Bhaskar> n2diy: i have un-achieve file in /usr
[08:17] <SaudiLinux> V. good work
[08:17] <n2diy> Bhaskar: then run your commands from there.
[08:17] <maddash> b/c it's tempting. b/c it'll get me kicked from #ubuntu. b/c it'll run demonically FAST.
[08:17] <tyme-> SaudiLinux:  i agree 6.10 rocks =] 
[08:18] <LameBMX> maddash, well my buddy swears by it ...
[08:18] <n2diy> 6.10, not on this box,!
[08:18] <tyme-> ubuntu > gentoo =] 
[08:18] <tyme-> n2diy:  why not?
[08:19] <LameBMX> dk if id go that far tyme- .... but with my experience with gentoo .. if installin ubuntu is rought .. then you may want to avoid gentoo lol
[08:19] <SaudiLinux> tyme : it is my favorate and the only linux distro i will use :)
[08:19] <n2diy> tyme-: because a lot of the problems we see here are 6.10 related, my 6.06 is working, and I'm on dial up.
[08:19] <tyme-> LameBMX:  no idea what you meant to say.
[08:19] <LameBMX> maddash, emerge -sync takes a lot longer than apt-get update though ...
[08:20] <cdubya> heh, yeah, I saw it breaking lots of folks' stuff it seemed like, so I hadn't been in a rush to 6.10
[08:20] <tyme-> n2diy:  all versions of any distro has problems, it all depends on YOU the user ;P
[08:20] <LameBMX> tyme-, my computer is the worlds worst to install an operating system on ... :/ ...
[08:20] <mneptok> maddash: i just like feeling secure that my machines waste *no* resources because my address book was compiled specfically for my hardware. :)
[08:20] <LameBMX> tyme-, exactly
[08:20] <n2diy> tyme, roger that, and I learned a long time ago, thanks to DOS 6.0, that bleeding edge will make you bleed. :)
[08:21] <LameBMX> i like that one n2diy
[08:21] <LameBMX> lol
[08:21] <tyme-> I went from Suse 10.1 to Ubuntu 6.10. Never used any versions of Ubuntu till now. It's insanely faster than Suse, WAY better package handling / update system
[08:21] <n2diy> LameBMX: TNX :)
[08:21] <LameBMX> and what i remember of gentoos support was geared to a really advanced user
[08:21] <mneptok> tyme-: and the employees are far sexier.
[08:21] <maddash> mneptok: haha. too bad, I don't use an addr book...I just play quake and starcraft, whilst watching the latest battlestar via totem or whatnot
[08:22] <LameBMX> not good to have 20 tabs open tryin to figure out one document
[08:22] <tyme-> mneptok:  definately. =] 
[08:22] <mneptok> maddash: http://funroll-loops.org
[08:23] <allien> is there a way to get the page count or last time the toner was changed from a command line program?
[08:23] <tyme-> If you've ever used YaST you know why i dumped Suse
[08:23] <tyme-> :P
[08:23] <DanaG> ntfs-3g-nautilus-tools does not exist in Trevino's Edgy repo.
[08:23] <Dope> can anyone help me with steam and wine in 6.10?
[08:23] <n2diy> I played with so many distros I can't remember them all, but I found a home with Ubuntu.
[08:24] <DanaG> The only thing I've compiled from source on my Ubuntu is the kernel.
[08:24] <cdubya> n2diy, same here
[08:24] <DanaG> mmm, make -j4 (actually, CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=4 make-kpkg...) on dual core.
[08:25] <n2diy> cdubya: And that is why we are here, right?
[08:25] <cdubya> heh
[08:25] <tyme-> n2diy:  That's why we're all here now :) -- i've a limited experience of linux distros (4) and Ubuntu is the only one that I was completely amazed by.
[08:25] <DanaG> The previous distro I used was SuSE, but then I tried Ubuntu and loved the style.
[08:25] <LKC> to do a total upgrade is it sudo apt update. sudo apt upgrade?
[08:25] <tyme-> Mandrake, Red Hat, Suse, Debian -> Ubuntu <3
[08:26] <maddash> LOL mneptok, what's a 90hp import?
[08:26] <DanaG> The only major thing I miss from SuSE is the great consistency from Grub to bootsplash/fbsplash to gdm/kdm to gnome/kde splash to openoffice splash ... and so on.
[08:26] <cdubya> n2diy, I've installed Fedora, Mepis, yellow dog, SuSE, Mandrakiva, yada, yada, yada........I found Ubuntu quite superior in many respects, and it just works.
[08:26] <DanaG> Oh, and the fact that the DHCP client worked with my router.
[08:26] <curs0r> ok i'll reprhase, has anyone successfully used a liflg installer?
[08:26] <Seta-San> it still won't work
[08:27] <DanaG> I love the Ubuntu orange.  I'd never go back to 'OMG Blue!'
[08:27] <cdubya> the orange rocks
[08:27] <cdubya> :)
 Hi all. I have to install an unknown PCI modem. In the lspci it appears as 01:01.0 Communication controller: Conexant Unknown device 2f30 (rev 01). Using the product's and vendor's ids, I've found a driver and installed it. But the modem still appears as "unknown" in the pci list. what should I do to test it?
[08:27] <DanaG> The only blue thing I use now is the Eminence theme in Windowblinds, when I'm in Windows.
[08:27] <LKC> how do i do a total system update?
[08:27] <n2diy> cdubya: yep, and I have one box deployed in the 'wild" with no problems, call backs etc...
[08:27] <cdubya> sweet
[08:27] <DanaG> Oh yeah, I used gnome-color-chooser to make the metacity be the same color as the progress bars.
[08:28] <timfrost> ! upgrade | LKC
[08:28] <ubotu> LKC: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:28] <eNons3nse> what is the command line program that i use to join files with .001 .002 .003 .004 etc...  after their extensions?
[08:28] <DanaG> Too bad I can't convince my parents to try it.
[08:28] <Seta-San> fiandre> <- it's a winmodem
[08:28] <DanaG> Too set on "don't touch my stuff, don't change my settings!"
[08:28] <fiandre> Seta-San: yes
[08:29] <cdubya> lol at DanaG
[08:29] <Seta-San> http://linmodems.org/
[08:29] <Seta-San> that site probably best resource
[08:29] <cdubya> "and for heaven's sakes, don't take Windows off of there...."
[08:29] <n2diy> cdubya: But I'll never forget Mandrake 7.0, installed and online with an old Pentium 100 mhz, my first functional linux box. And I won't forget RH 5.2, six months of frustration, and never did get X to work on it.
[08:29] <LameBMX> DanaG, have you thought about puttin the livecd in and gettin it all setup nice
[08:30] <cdubya> "now when you install this linux stuff, that's what you called it right, now I'll still be able to use Print Shop Deluxe, right?"
[08:30] <LameBMX> and leave it there so when they goto use it its running ...
[08:30] <LameBMX> dana and flip them out like crazy
[08:30] <cdubya> n2diy, first serious one for me I think was a RH 6.1 server install
[08:30] <maddash> ok ok, so I negotiated with my evil side and settled for installing debian, instead of gentoo
[08:30] <Seta-San> mandrake 7.1 for me was first serious attempt
[08:30] <maddash> so maybe I won't get kicked out of here just yet
[08:31] <LKC> timfrost that page is useless and all i want to is do an update not a upgrade (eg dapper update, not dapper to edgy
[08:31] <Seta-San> i don't know if i'll be able to use ubuntu though
[08:31] <Seta-San> installer borks
[08:31] <cdubya> LKC, System > Administration > Update Manager
[08:31] <timfrost> LKC, the apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade sequence is what you want in that case
[08:32] <n2diy> Seta-San: Now is a good time to go hunting for test boxes, you can find some good stuff on the curb this time of year. I always keep a test/backup box around here.
[08:32] <cdubya> timfrost, he's just wanting to check for updates to dapper, not a dist-upgrade, I don't think
[08:33] <Seta-San> i have only one box to spare but it doesn't have any drives
[08:33] <Seta-San> it's a pentium3
[08:33] <Seta-San> with 192 mb ram
[08:33] <cdubya> n2diy, I'm running one 6.06 install on a PII
[08:33] <cdubya> heh
[08:33] <cdubya> with methinks 128mb
[08:33] <cdubya> :-P
[08:33] <cdubya> just for serving some stuff up locally on my lan
[08:34] <DanaG> Oh yeah, where's the best place to look for stuff?
[08:34] <cdubya> and testing out configurations
[08:34] <n2diy> Seta-San: Go curb cruizing, it is amazing what people throw away after Xmas.
[08:34] <cdubya> DanaG, what kind of stuff
[08:34] <Seta-San> trash isn't til tomarrow
[08:34] <Seta-San> i guess tomarrow i go curb cruising
[08:34] <DanaG> What I need most is a new ATX PSU.
[08:34] <tyme-> curb cruising?
[08:34] <tyme-> wow
[08:34] <cdubya> heh
[08:35] <tyme-> just goto a good will or a flea market
[08:35] <n2diy> cdubya: This box is an 1996 Pentium? with dual CPUs an 256 megs of ram, the entire system cost $150.
[08:35] <cdubya> n2diy, kewl.
[08:35] <cdubya> mine cost about 50 I think
[08:35] <tyme-> video card > cpu
[08:35] <tyme-> :P
[08:35] <DanaG> I have an Athlon XP with 512 of RAM, but the PSU died violently, at the same time as the halogen light on my wall.
[08:35] <cdubya> it does OK for what I need it for.
[08:36] <DanaG> Gotta love the smell of 'magic smoke
[08:36] <DanaG> '
[08:36] <cdubya> can't figger out what's up with the print setup, though
[08:36] <Tajmox> How do I install themes for xubuntu?   It doesn't have the "install theme" button
[08:36] <DanaG> Oh, and I used it with a crappy PSU after that, but the crappy PSU crapped out after a while.
[08:36] <tyme-> only theme you need son is Human.
[08:36] <tyme-> ;}
[08:36] <n2diy> cdubya: And I have two of them, the other one is my test/backup box, she is ready to go as soon as I can cable her up, and boot up.
[08:36] <cdubya> n2diy, very kewl
[08:36] <cdubya> I have 6.06 on this lappy, and then the PII
[08:36] <Seta-San> by months end i'll have linux working or Vista
[08:37] <n2diy> cdubya: I hate down time!
[08:37] <cdubya> heh
[08:37] <cdubya> me too
[08:37] <Tajmox> tyme- but im trying to change my cursor.   is that ok ?
[08:37] <DanaG> There's one GOOD thing Vista does for Linux:
[08:37] <Seta-San> what's that?
[08:37] <cdubya> recruits new users?
[08:37] <DanaG> It forces manufacturers to actually FOLLOW ACPI 3.0 standards.
[08:37] <cdubya> heh
[08:37] <DanaG> So we get standardized LCD brightness controls, and such.
[08:37] <Seta-San> lol
[08:37] <Seta-San> BIOS updates!!!
[08:38] <DanaG> Google for 'ACPI in Windows Vista'
[08:38] <tyme-> Microsoft Linux
[08:38] <tyme-> got a ring to it.
[08:38] <DanaG> without quotes.
[08:38] <johnw188> lol
[08:38] <n2diy> I don't like the idea of M$ forcing anybody to do anything, that is why I'm here.
[08:38] <tyme-> Linux version of Microsoft OS = downfall of linux distros? :P
[08:38] <cdubya> heh
[08:39] <Seta-San> when it comes to forcing standards i don't mind
[08:39] <tyme-> it's going to happen. one day.
[08:39] <n2diy> tyme-:  no way, we have to much momentum.
[08:39] <Seta-San> i think microsoft might take linux, but only the kernel
[08:39] <tyme-> n2diy:  that momentum can easily be killed by microsoft with it's own version
[08:39] <tyme-> but it wont be free :P
[08:39] <Seta-San> they would make it look like windows
[08:40] <n2diy> tyme-:  not as long as Linus has the copywrite.
[08:40] <tyme-> How could he stop it?
[08:40] <tyme-> They just couldnt have 'Linux' in the name
[08:41] <Seta-San> microsoft will probably end up doing what apple did. take the kernel, hide it for most people, and put their own interface on it
[08:41] <n2diy> tyme-:  M$ can't copy the code, with all of us eyes patrolling it.
[08:41] <Seta-San> and there's no crime in that
[08:41] <n2diy> us/our
[08:42] <tyme-> GPL is a joke =[
[08:42] <tyme-> well it has been for awhile
[08:42] <roach_> stupid n00b question - once my DVD drive spins up under Ubuntu (say I browse the contents), it seems to keep spinning indefinitely - or at least the access light stays on.  I can hit the eject button, and the disc will pop out, but I'm wondering why the drive doesn't spin down sooner...  has anyone seen this before?
[08:42] <n2diy> And who is going to pay for M$ linux, when Ubuntu, et al, are free?
[08:42] <tyme-> it's always stepped on/over.
[08:42] <tyme-> gamers? users who enjoy using better pnp drivers?
 And who is going to pay for M$ linux, when Ubuntu, et al, are free? <- people who don't know better and people who are comfortable with microsoft's interface and brandname
[08:43] <tyme-> i would.
[08:43] <wheelswitch> i have an ntfs partition that windows is on, i want o tformat this partition to ext3, however my ntfs partition has the bootable flag. is this going to wreck my grub?
[08:44] <tyme-> I would want to run Counter-Strike / other games without running wine
[08:44] <n2diy> tyme-:  and how big a market is the gamers? plus M$ has serious competion there.
[08:44] <Seta-San> windows isn't that bad
[08:44] <Jbirk> Please hlep me
[08:44] <tyme-> or never have to worry about the crappy ALSA sound drivers
[08:44] <Jbirk> I just installed Edgy
[08:44] <Jbirk> Now, Ndiswrapper doesn't work
[08:44] <tyme-> n2diy:  gaming market is HUGE
[08:44] <tyme-> PC gaming is HUGE
[08:44] <Jbirk> I had to bridge a widnows ethernet connection and connect a cable
[08:44] <Jbirk> How can I fix ndiswrapper?
[08:45] <livia> hello
[08:45] <Seta-San> n2diy> tyme-:  and how big a market is the gamers? plus M$ has serious competion there. <- BIG!!!! and more over linux suffers from a sort of dependancy hell which makes installing programs a pain alot of the time
[08:45] <livia> i've a question
[08:45] <jmg> can anyone reach informationclearinghouse.info?
[08:45] <n2diy> tyme, and M$ is trying to break into it. they don't dominate it.
[08:45] <tyme-> uh.. they do dominate it
[08:45] <tyme-> when have you gone to a store to buy a PC game and it was Linux/mac only?
[08:45] <lieaaon> i think i'd be glad if ms used the linux kernel
[08:45] <tyme-> Have you ever heard of Xbox or Xbox360
[08:45] <tyme-> ?
[08:46] <livia> plz
[08:46] <Seta-San> i used to be a mac fanboy and i know what it's like to unreasonably hate microsoft
[08:46] <n2diy> Playstation?
[08:46] <livia> i wanna report a bug
[08:46] <tyme-> MS dominates PC and a huge part of the console market
[08:46] <Seta-San> i killed the fanboy in me when i was forced into using windows and realized it was actually quite good
[08:46] <n2diy> livia: what is your question?
[08:46] <n2diy> ! bug
[08:46] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:46] <Rageagainstthis> i have a question its not linux related.  Is there a site where i calculate the power that my pc needs.  I am looking to get the lowest possible psu for my system to save energy
[08:46] <n2diy> ! bug | livia
[08:46] <ubotu> livia: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:47] <Seta-San> what video card are you getting rage?
[08:47] <Rageagainstthis> well nothing sli
[08:47] <Rageagainstthis> at the moment i have an ati 9800 pro
[08:47] <Seta-San> if you're using onboard gfx i'd say 350 to 450 watts should be good
[08:47] <livia> n2diy thank u
[08:47] <tyme-> also, MS wouldnt take linux kernel. MS kernel is far superior than Linux minus a few areas
[08:47] <Seta-San> depending on how many drives your using
[08:48] <Rageagainstthis> 1 dvd-rw and 1 320 gb sata
[08:48] <n2diy> livia: nada
[08:48] <Rageagainstthis> i have a file server to host anything bigger
[08:48] <Seta-San> ya
[08:48] <livia> n2diy =]  brasileiro?
[08:48] <Seta-San> 350 or 400 watt should be more than enough
[08:48] <PORDO> what's the official link to the live cd?
[08:48] <tyme-> go with 450
[08:48] <Seta-San> 400watt if you want to absolutely ensure your system has enough
[08:48] <n2diy> livia: ? pocito?
[08:48] <Rageagainstthis> alright that sounds good.  I will be running an opteron x2 @ 1.8 if that makes a difference
[08:49] <tyme-> go with 450
[08:49] <Seta-San> ya
[08:49] <n2diy> ! brazil | livia
[08:49] <livia> n2diy haha nevermind
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brazil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <n2diy> ! br | livia
[08:49] <ubotu> livia: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[08:49] <PORDO> i just need the edgy live CD, for testing purposes, because i have a bad sound issue.
[08:49] <Rageagainstthis> ok sounds good.  Thanks for your help
[08:50] <livia> n2diy the thing is: they ask me to register to report a bug... and i wanna help but i dont wanna spend time registering on launchpad... that makes bug reporting difficult
[08:50] <tyme-> 'How do you know if you have herpes?'
[08:50] <tyme-> loll
[08:50] <livia> it should be easier
[08:50] <ozzloy> when i plug in my webcam, dmesg shows a driver being loaded for it, but there's no /dev/video*, where is the device?
[08:50] <Seta-San> i would have liked support for EFI in vista... is it supported in linux?
[08:50] <LKC> ! herpes
[08:50] <n2diy> livia roger that, never reported one myself.
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about herpes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <LKC> lol
[08:51] <LKC> sorry tyme i tried
[08:51] <livia> n2diy =[ that's sad.. it should be something automagically. hihi
[08:52] <ozzloy> Seta-San: yes linux supports efi with elilo
[08:52] <ozzloy> Seta-San: some version of gentoo was the first os to dual boot on the intel macs
[08:52] <n2diy> livia roger, but I guess they need a way to keep things under control, and I'm sure marketing likes to know stuff like that too.
[08:52] <livia> i just came here to know if there is some other place i could do a bug report without having to fuckin register myself.. =p
[08:53] <Seta-San> 'fraid not
[08:53] <n2diy> ! curse
[08:53] <LKC> how many ppl here are linus nconverts from windows?
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about curse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <slicky> gah.. how do i install java sdk on my server?  iv downloaded the .bin file.. ran it..but java is not installed..
[08:53] <Seta-San> not a convert
[08:53] <n2diy> ! cursing
[08:53] <allien>  is there a way to get the page count or last time the toner was changed from a command line program?
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cursing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <slicky> !java
[08:53] <Seta-San> i respect linux and windows equally
[08:53] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:53] <Seta-San> in the end they are just tools
[08:53] <slicky> !java SDK
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java SDK - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <slicky> !SDK
[08:53] <n2diy> ! foul
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SDK - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about foul - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <n2diy> ! family
[08:54] <LKC> ! microsoft
[08:54] <Seta-San> !jre
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about family - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <cdubya> heh, that was a great response
[08:54] <livia> =/
[08:54] <cdubya> "please visit ##
[08:54] <n2diy> ! f??k
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about f??k - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <n2diy> ?
[08:54] <cdubya> windows or your nearest mental health institute
[08:54] <cdubya> heh
[08:54] <PORDO> the ubuntu live cd...anyone?
[08:55] <Seta-San> it's not working for me
[08:55] <livia> they should be worried about fixing bugs.. not keeping things under control... =p
[08:55] <LKC> !equivalents
[08:55] <Seta-San> it freezes where it should be installing
[08:55] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[08:55] <Seta-San> i want an equaviliant for gator
[08:55] <LKC> ! linux
[08:55] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[08:56] <LKC> ! BSD
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about BSD - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <n2diy> livia: who is "they"?
[08:56] <LKC> ! spam
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:57] <Seta-San> i want to murdur the people who comes up with these retarded acronyms
[08:57] <Seta-San> GINF (Ginf is not Frontpage)
[08:57] <Seta-San> wine = wine is not an emulater
[08:57] <livia> they = developers or whoever cares about bug fixing... ehhe
[08:58] <n2diy> livia: windows, or Ubuntu?
[08:58] <livia> ubuntu
[08:58] <n2diy> Gnu = Gnu is Not Unix.
[08:58] <Seta-San> ya
[08:58] <Seta-San> all those are retarded
[08:58] <livia> in windows if some program crashes, u can send a bug report automatically...
[08:58] <NoEvidenZ> But do you?
[08:59] <NoEvidenZ> And do they ever get back to you and help you?
[08:59] <Seta-San> heck yes
[08:59] <Seta-San> and heck no
[08:59] <JulieJulie> hey there all.
[08:59] <NoEvidenZ> So there you go, it's pretty damn useless, isn't it?
[08:59] <n2diy> livia: and then you wait a year or two, or three, and it gets fixed, and you have to pay for it!
[08:59] <Seta-San> no
[08:59] <livia> of course not, but i assume they hire programmers to fix those things
[08:59] <Seta-San> it's not useless
[08:59] <LKC> is fiesty going to come with proprietory software eg mp3 codec or 3d drivers?
[08:59] <JulieJulie> n2diy: the installation was a success with 6.06 heh.
[08:59] <Seta-San> they get thousands of those a day
[09:00] <Seta-San> you can't expect that they get back to you
[09:00] <n2diy> JulieJulie: cool, welcome back.
[09:00] <livia> what about windows updates?? all the time, new updates.. for free
[09:00] <JulieJulie> n2diy: thanks heh but do you mind if I ask you another thing?
[09:00] <barata> hallo Amarok user ... how can I install flac plugin?
[09:00] <barata> what shall I do?
[09:00] <n2diy> JulieJulie: go for it.
[09:00] <Seta-San> every second tuesday of the month new patches for windows
[09:00] <livia> i'm talking about basics applications that MS owns...
[09:01] <JulieJulie> n2diy:  for gaim when I try to sign into MSN part of it it does the whole process opens says I have three emails and then just goes away?
[09:01] <spacing_guild> I get the following error when I try to run the command 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper', can anyone tell me what this ->(Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument) means?
[09:01] <livia> if i were a developer i'd LOVE to know what didn't work and why...
[09:01] <LKC> barata maybe search adept for the codec?
[09:01] <jmg> can anyone look up informationclearinghouse.info
[09:02] <NoEvidenZ> So anyway, I was having trouble with the Edgy Live CD for amd64. It gets to the screen where it's meant to load everything, and just freezes.
[09:02] <n2diy> JulieJulie: What process? Can you open a terminal and type "mail"?
[09:02] <livia> when i used to program in C (i know it is nothing but..) i used to appreciate finding out why stuff didnt work
 So anyway, I was having trouble with the Edgy Live CD for amd64. It gets to the screen where it's meant to load everything, and just freezes. <- i'm having same problem
[09:02] <Seta-San> you hit the Run or Install ubuntu option
[09:02] <Seta-San> and then it gives the ubuntu logo with a couple verticle bars under it and does nothing?
[09:02] <NoEvidenZ> So I got the alternate Edgy CD for amd64, and tried to install that using the text thinger, and it says that it's loading the kernal, or bootin the kernal, then it doesn't do anything.
[09:03] <NoEvidenZ> Seta-San: exactly.
[09:03] <Seta-San> w00T
[09:03] <Seta-San> same problem
[09:03] <PORDO> is the ubuntu 6.10 CD a live CD?
[09:03] <Seta-San> officially not a problem on my end!
[09:03] <PORDO> or is there a specific CD that is live?
[09:03] <Seta-San> yes!
[09:03] <NoEvidenZ> Yeah, there's a live cd for edgy.,
[09:03] <JulieJulie> n2diy: totally new this this lol not too sure what terminal is?  I just went to applications and opened it up put my account stuff and then it opens up very briefly that I have 3 new emails and then goes off.
[09:03] <PORDO> NoEvidenZ link?
[09:03] <leros> i thought all the Ubuntu cds were live
[09:04] <NoEvidenZ> The Dapper one worked for me yesterday, but I'm trying to reformat in reinstall Edgy
[09:04] <Seta-San> noevidenz - what hardware you have?
[09:04] <Seta-San> nforce 4?
[09:04] <n2diy> JulieJulie: click on apps-assecories-terminal, it is command prompt.
[09:04] <mauser> I have installed two copies of 6.06 and the one on my laptop has the "Places->Desktop Folder|Desktop" entry and the one one desktop simply has "Places->Desktop", anyone aware of this situation?
[09:05] <NoEvidenZ> http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/ubuntu-releases/edgy/
[09:05] <NoEvidenZ> nvidia 7600gt
[09:05] <JulieJulie> n2diy: Oh i see, heh i understand heh.  So that has opened up.
[09:05] <Seta-San> Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT
[09:05] <NoEvidenZ> But even when i tried to run it in the safe graphics mode it still didn't work
[09:06] <JulieJulie> I really wished I would have went to classes this semester lol I took computer programming so this should have been on my laptop months ago hah.
[09:06] <cypher1_> NoEvidenZ: why do not you upgrade from dapper to edgy ?
[09:06] <Seta-San> me too
[09:06] <NoEvidenZ> cypher1_: Because I don't know how.. How?
[09:06] <n2diy> JulieJulie: ok, then you _can_ type mail, to see what you have, but be prepaired for a crude interface.
[09:06] <hjmills> does the gnomad in edgy support libmtp devices?
[09:06] <cypher1_> No1Viking: System -> Administration -> Update-Manager
[09:06] <cypher1_> sorry
[09:07] <Seta-San> i'm going to kick myself in the ass if i can intsall from windows
[09:07] <livia> n2diy i think she wanna know about the email she got on Hotmail. hihi
[09:07] <cypher1_> NoEvidenZ: : System -> Administration -> Update-Manager
[09:07] <n2diy> livia: she just did an install, is hotmail configured already?
[09:07] <JulieJulie> n2diy: slightly confused what am I supposed to type
[09:08] <livia> n2diy: if she had configured an account in Gaim.. for msn
[09:08] <n2diy> JulieJulie: mail
[09:08] <NoEvidenZ> cypher1_: Do i need to be connected to the net?
[09:08] <livia> then the emails she has on Hotmail they show up in a popup and puff. hihi
[09:08] <cypher1_> NoEvidenZ: yep
[09:08] <n2diy> livia: it is a virgin install1?
[09:08] <n2diy> 1?=!?
[09:08] <NoEvidenZ> cypher1_: The reason I'm trying to install Edgy is because I can't get my network working.
[09:08] <JulieJulie> n2diy: i have typed it in and says its not a command?
[09:08] <leros> How do you install Flash? I downloaded the archive from the Adobe website
[09:08] <Seta-San> at least i know that this problem is an ubuntu issue and not me or my computer
[09:09] <cypher1_> NoEvidenZ: ah
[09:09] <JulieJulie> n2diy: heh sorry im so new to this
[09:09] <cypher1_> NoEvidenZ: wired or wireless ?
[09:09] <NoEvidenZ> cypher1_: I'm having problems with my 128bit WEP on wireless.
[09:09] <livia> fairy@estrelinha:~$ mail
[09:09] <livia> bash: mail: command not found
[09:09] <n2diy> JulieJulie: So... what app is telling you, you have mail? Don't worry about being a newbie.
[09:09] <NoEvidenZ> It will work when there's no encryption, but not when i've got 64bit / 128bit WEP on
[09:09] <livia> n2diy: r u saying that or asking me? ehhe
[09:09] <cypher1_> No1Viking: thats 16 byte WEP key right ?
[09:10] <NoEvidenZ> It's really long.
[09:10] <NoEvidenZ> I know that much.
[09:10] <n2diy> livia: I don't know, now I'm not sure!? :)
[09:10] <NoEvidenZ> Yeah, probably about 16 bytes
[09:10] <cypher1_> NoEvidenZ: i had run wireless with a 10 byte WEP key
[09:10] <cypher1_> NoEvidenZ: in dapper
[09:10] <n2diy> JulieJulie: is Winders on this box too?
[09:10] <livia> n2diy: im confused. eheh
[09:11] <n0cturnal_> is there any way to re-probe hardware in a machine? The hard disk for this PC died and I replaced it with a backup I had on another disk which I created with dd a few weeks ago.
[09:11] <leros> Can somebody help me install flash?
[09:11] <n0cturnal_> I now don't have an eth0 :(
[09:11] <NoEvidenZ> I've tried all the different WEP things I can. It just won't work when Encryption is turned on.
[09:11] <JulieJulie> n2diy it says when i type mail in
[09:11] <livia> JulieJulie: Are u connected to MSN ?
[09:11] <cypher1_> !flas
[09:11] <cypher1_> !flash
[09:11] <n2diy> livia: hey, welcome to IRC?
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:11] <JulieJulie> n2diy - there is windows on this laptop as well
[09:11] <mneptok> leros: sudo aptitude install flashplayer-nonfree
[09:12] <leros> mneptok: thank you
[09:12] <macd> anyone in here used xen-tools on edgy?
[09:12] <JulieJulie> livia: as far as i know im only connected to irc right now because when i typed in password and email in in gaim it opens up says i have 3 emails hten closes
[09:12] <n2diy> JulieJulie: Ok, what is telling you, you have three emails?
[09:12] <mneptok> leros: oops ... "flashplugin-nonfree"
[09:12] <macd> JulieJulie, when your connecting to yahoo?
[09:12] <livia> NoEvidenZ: try spliting the WEP KEY with a -  like  xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-
[09:13] <n2diy> ! mail
[09:13] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[09:13] <cdubya> bah, still can't get this stupid printer to setup right. Ugh. think I'll have to either look at it tomorrow, or, (cough/hack/cough) use win2k for it again
[09:13] <cypher1_> mnemone: enable universe and multiverse and apt-get install the plugin
[09:13] <livia> n2diy: no, i'm just trying to make sure she have configured the stuff cause i'm so confused. eheheh
[09:13] <macd> cdubya, what printer?
[09:13] <n0cturnal_> anyone?
[09:13] <cypher1_> mneptok: : enable universe and multiverse and apt-get install the plugin
[09:14] <JulieJulie> n2diy: Yeah it says I have three emails but like you can barely catch it.  and then it goes away its not even at the task after it closes.
[09:14] <cdubya> macd, Samsung ML-1710
[09:14] <cypher1_> arghhh so many similar nicks
[09:14] <cdubya> macd, works fine from the 6.06 box it's attached to.....
[09:14] <macd> cdubya, does the cups local http server say anything?
[09:14] <Seta-San> i might try fedora core but installing simple audio and video codecs is a pain
[09:14] <macd> http://localhost:631
[09:14] <cypher1_> mneptok: sorry
[09:14] <mdious> cdubya:  there was an article that looked good on setting up a printer in ubuntu at freesoftwaremagazine...
[09:14] <mneptok> cypher1_: thanks, but i'm all set :)
[09:14] <Polysics> hi all
[09:14] <Polysics> i'm officially starting to hate VNC
[09:14] <n2diy> JulieJulie: livia, Julie, I don't understand what you are  doing?
[09:15] <allien> how do I get advanced information about my printers from the command line? (like how many pages have been printed, when the toner was last replaced, etc.)
[09:15] <Polysics> anyone is using freeNX? i'd happily try it, but i can't seem to get the packages!
[09:15] <allien> Polysics: I've used it before, it rules
[09:15] <macd> allien, 'man cupsd'
[09:15] <thegve> Polysics: No, I'm using the commercial NX though
[09:15] <JulieJulie> n2diy : im so confused as well.  this is literally what I did.  I go to apps then open up gaim.  sign in like usual then it opens and closes.  Thats really all that happens lol and Im wondering how to keep it there so I can use it?
[09:15] <cdubya> macd, not at that box right now.....and if I try to connect via http://IP_O'_the_box:631/, I get an error
[09:16] <macd> JulieJulie, are you connecting to yahoo or ?
[09:16] <allien> Polysics: full video on 80kiB up/down
[09:16] <mneptok> allien: what printer? ask the manufacturer. there's no magic Linux app that can query any make or model of printer
[09:16] <JulieJulie> macd: im connecting to MSN>
[09:16] <macd> yeah cdubya you can only connect via localhost
[09:16] <Polysics> allien, could you please point me at the repository you were using?
[09:16] <Polysics> wow, that's performance :-)
[09:16] <cypher1_> JulieJulie: did you check the taskbar above.. gaim sometimes becomes an icon in the taskbar
[09:16] <Seta-San> god linux is such a pain to install
[09:16] <macd> JulieJulie, ohhh, then you need to sign into msn via your windows live ID and just click to your account page, then login to gaim Ive seen that happen before.
[09:16] <allien> Polysics: sorry, I was using it on gentoo before I switched to a (stable) binary distro
[09:16] <Polysics> my problem with VNC is that it is perfectly ok for maintenance, but i need to work on the remote machine 8 hrs a day :-)
[09:16] <n2diy> JulieJulie: livia, ok, that isn't mail, that is instant messaging, not sure what to tell you now?
[09:17] <macd> Seta-San, yeah cliocking the install icon to hard?
[09:17] <livia> n2diy: is the gaim stuff
[09:17] <Seta-San> it's not installing
[09:17] <Seta-San> it's freezing!
[09:17] <macd> Seta-San, on the disk partitioning?
[09:17] <Polysics> Seta-San, i've never had problems installing from RH5 and up :-)
[09:17] <Seta-San> and it's rare when i find a linux distro that ever works right
[09:17] <macd> well were here to help not to bash linux.
[09:17] <Seta-San> last linux distro that worked right for me was mandrake 10.1
[09:17] <JulieJulie> macd: so sign on using firefox?  like usual email?  then it should let me?
[09:17] <Polysics> lol, we have all kinds of opinions here :-)
[09:18] <n2diy> JulieJulie: livia, what is stuff? It is instant messaging, and I know nothing about it.
[09:18] <Polysics> Seta-San, you know i don't have windows on my new laptop? :-)
[09:18] <macd> JulieJulie, yeah like signin to passport.net , then signin to gaim
[09:18] <JulieJulie> n2diy: heh sorry maybe wasn't clear.
[09:18] <livia> n2diy: JulieJulie i've just logged with Gaim on my MSN account and a Window pops:  New Mail  -  You have mail!  bababababa@hotmail.com has 44 new messages
[09:18] <Seta-San> that's nice
[09:18] <livia> an then CLOSE button and OPEN buttun
[09:18] <macd> JulieJulie, one time outta fix the problem forever
[09:18] <Seta-San> but i never really have good luck with linux
[09:18] <hjmills> does the gnomad in edgy support libmtp devices?
[09:18] <mnemone> cypher1_: got fooled by tab completion, did you?
[09:18] <Polysics> nor am i getting anywhere near vista, linux is the only alternatifve after xp gets phased out
[09:18] <Seta-San> install hardly ever goes right, if at all
[09:18] <cypher1_> mnemone: more than once :-)
[09:18] <phr34ck> How can I know what ports are opened on my system ?
[09:18] <macd> Seta-San, odd hardware? or?
[09:18] <Seta-San> that's just my personal expereience
[09:19] <Polysics> Seta-San, my 2 cents, get standard hardware and try Ubuntu, you'll be surprised
[09:19] <macd> phr34ck, you can use netstat , or nmap yourself
[09:19] <Seta-San> i've got nforce4
[09:19] <livia> n2diy: is like Kopete for Gnome....
[09:19] <mnemone> cypher1_:  who hasn't :-)
[09:19] <Seta-San> OS: Windows 2003 Professional 5.2 SP1 (Build #3790) CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+, 2.01 GHz, 512KB Video: NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT (1440x900x32bpp 60Hz) Sound: SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [AC00]  Memory: Used: 561/1024MB Uptime: 1h 35s HD: Free: 154.60 GB/217.88 GB Connection: NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller - Packet Scheduler Miniport @ 100.0 Mbps (Rec: 282.26MB Sent: 230.52MB)
[09:19] <Seta-San> that's my hardware
[09:19] <macd> Seta-San, my desktop has nforce MCP and its fine
[09:19] <Seta-San> nothing out of the ordinary
[09:19] <n2diy> JulieJulie: livia, ok, I don't understand what is going on, I'm going to sit back and watch the show. ;)
[09:19] <Polysics> the only REAL problem linux has today is device support, and it's not even "linux's" fault
[09:19] <cypher1_> mnemone: :)
[09:19] <phr34ck> Kay, thanks.
[09:19] <johnw188> hey all
[09:19] <Polysics> Seta-San, looks like perfectly normal stuff
[09:20] <macd> Seta-San, Id use the 32bit version, 64bit linux in userland I consider to be a "msess" still
[09:20] <phr34ck> Another question. How can I change my password from the console ?
[09:20] <livia> phr34ck: nmap YOUR IP
[09:20] <macd> phr34ck, passwd
[09:20] <johnw188> use passwd
[09:20] <Polysics> Seta-San, yes, run 32bit, there's no reason for 64 :-)
[09:20] <JulieJulie> macd:  I tried signing into the passport.net then signed in and it did that same thing.  Heh.  I could always do the usual restarting of the computer? lol fixes much?
[09:20] <n2diy> phr34ck: passwd
[09:20] <phr34ck> Okay fellas, thanks.
[09:20] <macd> JulieJulie, well you shouldnt have to restart :/
[09:20] <johnw188> I had a quick question, regarding beryl - I'm pretty sure I'm doing someting stupid, and ubuntu-xgl is kind of dead at the moment
[09:20] <macd> you should be able to kill gaim processes and then start gaim again
[09:20] <Seta-San> why did i get a 64bit computer if i'm only gong to run 32bit programs?
[09:21] <macd> Seta-San, b/c you bought in to the hype to early?
[09:21] <macd> 64bit windows isnt any better.
[09:21] <mdious> cdubya:  http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/printing_ubuntu might help with your printing....just has basic steps to setting up a printer
[09:21] <n2diy> Seta-San: it was your money, why are you asking us?
[09:21] <Seta-San> 64bit windows is great
[09:21] <macd> I'll hold my tongue on that
[09:21] <johnw188> so I went through the berylonedgy tutorial, and now I have the emerald icon in the upper right, just as it says I should
[09:22] <Seta-San> nothing afaik can is broke by it
[09:22] <livia> too fast for me.. i can't deal with iRC anymore. ahahah
[09:22] <johnw188> but when I try to change my window manager to beryl, it flickers a bit, and then reverts to gnome
[09:22] <phr34ck> is there a global variable for my IP ?
[09:22] <Seta-San> i get a slightly newer version of the kernel
[09:22] <Seta-San> and things load faster
[09:22] <leros>  how can i check to see if I have installed flash correctly.
[09:22] <macd> johnw188, your window manager should be emerald not beryl
[09:22] <macd> err, no it shouldnt
[09:22] <Polysics> Seta-San, 64 bit processors are built to get 32 bit stuff going faster atm
[09:22] <ndlovu> when I rip to mp3 from sound juicer, it doesn't add ID3 tag information - is that something I need to set in my GNOME audio profile>
[09:22] <n2diy> livia: just scroll up a line or two, and everything freezes for you.
[09:22] <macd> my mistake
[09:22] <NoEvidenZ> livia: You mean put the dashes in? I looked at "iwconfig ath0" and it displays it as already having the dashes..
[09:22] <johnw188> lol
[09:22] <ndlovu> ?
[09:22] <Polysics> so you are really using 64 bit anyway
[09:22] <johnw188> I have three options there
[09:22] <johnw188> beryl, gnome, and kde
[09:23] <johnw188> its on gnome right now
[09:23] <Seta-San> Operating System: Windows 2003 Professional 5.2 SP1 (Build #3790)
[09:23] <Seta-San> that's really windows xp pro 64bit edition
[09:23] <livia> n2diy: i do that but it takes ages for me to read everything.. hihi
[09:23] <phr34ck> nmap <-- command not found ?
[09:23] <macd> well you should check your logs johnw188
[09:23] <macd> phr34ck, sudo apt-get install nmap
[09:23] <n2diy> !enter | john188,
[09:23] <ubotu> john188,: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:23] <Polysics> anyway, my last 2 cents is simply: install the 32 bit Ubuntu, then compile whatever you like as native
[09:23] <macd> what fun is that uboto ;P
[09:24] <macd> you silly bot.
[09:24] <phr34ck> Sometimes I think about installing everything !
[09:24] <n2diy> livia: roger that, a lot of traffic here.
[09:24] <Polysics> i think that is the accepted way of leveraging 64 bit hw right now
[09:24] <phr34ck> Anyone familiar with wine in here? I installed a software, and now I want to uninstall it ... any ideas how ?
[09:24] <macd> phr34ck, delete it.
[09:24] <leros> I ran the flash plug-in installer in the terminal and youtube videos will still not work. Any ideas?
[09:24] <macd> leros, restart firefox?
[09:24] <mdious> dpkg --purge might help if you got it as a deb
[09:25] <phr34ck> macd, I don't know where it's located ;p ... speacking of which, can I search for directory names?
[09:25] <macd> leros, what browser are you using?
[09:25] <Seta-San> kubuntu is just ubuntu except with kde right?
[09:25] <macd> Seta-San, yes.
[09:25] <phr34ck> from the console that is.
[09:25] <mdious> phr34ck:  slocate wine, find /usr wine etc might help....
[09:25] <livia> NoEvidenZ: hmm  kinda.. that solved for me.. i couldn't connect to my router then i tried the KEY WITH the dashes in like:
[09:25] <livia> iwconfig eth1 essid "HOME" ap auto rate auto mode managed key open xxxx-91C8-xx-0xA9-B783-xxxx-CC txpower on
[09:26] <Polysics> at last i got a worgin FreeNX repository! rejoice :-)
[09:26] <cooltux> kubuntu =ubuntu - gnome + kde
[09:26] <Polysics> *working
[09:26] <macd> I usualy install ubuntu server, then install ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop
[09:26] <phr34ck> I thinking about deleting everything that has wine in it .... what do you think?
[09:26] <macd> but thats my 2cents
[09:26] <macd> phr34ck, I dont think much of that idea ;P
[09:26] <Polysics> beerbuntu coming next?
[09:26] <mdious> phr34ck:  how did you install wine in the first place...where did you get it from?
[09:27] <leros> macd: im using firefox
[09:27] <phr34ck> apt-get
[09:27] <n2diy> beer1?
[09:27] <n2diy> beer!?
[09:27] <phr34ck> I added its url to sources.list
[09:27] <leros> macd: i closed firefox and opened it again. Is that enough?
[09:27] <mdious> phr34ck:  then all you have to do is type:  dpkg --purge wine
[09:27] <livia> phr34ck: open SYNAPCT and search for it....
[09:27] <Polysics> the distribution with free beer included! THAT would win some ppl over to Linux! :-)
[09:27] <mdious> phr34ck:  assuming wine is the package name....example if you typed apt-get install wine then you would do dpkg --purge wine
[09:27] <Polysics> mdious, --purge wine looks like someone drank too much :-P
[09:27] <phr34ck> awesome !!
[09:28] <phr34ck> awesome.
[09:28] <phr34ck> It worked !
[09:28] <tyme-> wine blows =[
[09:28] <macd> leros, ok do this: in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins  do you see a libflashplayer.so
[09:28] <mdious> Polysics:  sorry was that wrong, i forgot to mention i'm a moron
[09:28] <phr34ck> but there are still some files that are related to wine, example: /home/phr34ck/.wine/*
[09:28] <phr34ck> Those are all for wine.
[09:28] <phr34ck> I should remove them, yes ?
[09:28] <tyme-> now errbody in the club with a spiffyy
[09:29] <macd> spliffy ;P
[09:29] <mdious> phr34ck:  yup you can get rid of that
[09:29] <leros> macd: no
[09:29] <tyme-> spliffy*
[09:29] <phr34ck> how can I remove a folder and ALL it's subdirectories ?
[09:29] <tyme-> typo =] 
[09:29] <macd> ok leros, do this "sudo locate -u"
[09:29] <phr34ck> rm -R /home/phr34ck/.wine/* ?
[09:29] <mdious> lower case r...
[09:29] <macd> leros, when its done, type locate libflashplayer.so
[09:30] <mdious> phr34ck:  rm -r /home/phr34ck/.wine
[09:30] <macd> leros, then copy that result into the directory form above
[09:30] <phr34ck> man I'm getting good ;p
[09:30] <mdious> you might want to use a -i switch so it goes interactive and prompts you...or is that on by default with ubuntu?
[09:30] <n2diy> Anybody know a good kiosk frontend?
[09:30] <macd> n2diy, kiosk for what?
[09:30] <macd> internet browsing...ecommerce....etc
[09:30] <leros> macd: "bash: libflashplayer.so: command not found"
[09:30] <n2diy> macd: umm, a public library?
[09:31] <phr34ck> that won't remove my home directory ?
[09:31] <macd> leros, you need to type 'locate libflashplayer.so'
[09:31] <mdious> phr34ck:  if you want to be safe, cd /home/phr34ck then type rm -r .wine
[09:31] <macd> after youve run "sudo updatedb"
[09:31] <Polysics> mdious, i was just kidding :-)
[09:31] <phr34ck> I didn't realise that I was in the home directory ;p
[09:32] <macd> so who wants to answer my question ;P
[09:32] <Polysics> anyway, i DIDN'T find a working FreeNX repo
[09:32] <n2diy> ! kidding | Polysics
[09:32] <ubotu> Polysics: You may think your joke is funny, but you may confuse new users or irritate people who actually start answering your question :)
[09:32] <Polysics> looks like seveas' packs have disappeared from the mirrors
[09:32] <macd> you have to use his repo now ;)
[09:32] <mdious> Polysics:  no worries, sorry if i sounded snappy :P
[09:33] <Polysics> macd, so only the main repo has the packs? oh darn
[09:33] <livia> =/
[09:33] <macd> yeah
[09:33] <leros> macd: ok, im not sure what was supposed to happen. The command seemed to have worked, but nothing happened.
[09:33] <macd> leros, correct, now type locate libflashplayer.so
[09:33] <livia> i think they should put a Linux Basics Quick Course on every distro.. when they first log in they'd see it and they'd read it!! heheh
[09:34] <leros> i did
[09:34] <leros> macd: i did, and nothing happened. what should have happened?
[09:34] <cdubya> man, I just don't understand.....
[09:34] <macd> it should have given you a result
[09:34] <Polysics> macd, they are apparently even not on the main server!
[09:34] <macd> apparently your flash didnt install
[09:34] <crazy_bus> Im trying to use gnu debugger, however while it used to work it has stopped working.  I type gdb <program> . Then run, however it comes up with this error; No executable file specified.
[09:34] <crazy_bus> Use the "file" or "exec-file" command.
[09:34] <mdious> livia:  tldp has great stuff for beginners...like the intro to linux...all good stuff...
[09:34] <Polysics> gogo unfindable files! :-)
[09:34] <livia> i'm serious... i mean: how to install /uninstall, how to do basic stuff.. u know? =] 
[09:34] <macd> leros, ones minute I'll give you the exact package you need.
[09:35] <livia> !tldp
[09:35] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[09:35] <n2diy> livia: take a look at this:  http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz
[09:35] <macd> leros,  http://www.adobe.com/go/fp9_update_b2_installer_linuxplugin
[09:36] <macd> then when thats downloaded, run it, then run the sudo updatedb, then locate libflashplayer.so then copy it into the appropriate directory.
[09:36] <macd> anyone used xen-tools on edgy yet?
[09:36] <livia> n2diy: mdious: I know there's plenty of docs but they don't look for it....
[09:37] <livia> they should put a basic TOUR for linux.... like they do on first use after install on Windows
[09:37] <leros> macd: how do i run it? sry i'm a newb
[09:37] <fredl> hi, anybody know if the eclipse WTP is packaged?
[09:37] <macd> leros from console, tar zxvf thefileyoudownloadedhere then cd to its directory and run the install
[09:38] <livia> something that pop on their face.... windows users r lazy... they r made that way... not in a bad sense...
[09:38] <tortho> join /launchpad
[09:38] <jsjc> hello I am looking foward to update my madwifi drivers in ubuntu because... my atheros card is not working but I know that it works in linux because it works with backtrack distro
[09:38] <cdubya> WTP?
[09:38] <fredl> Web Tools Platform
[09:38] <cdubya> ah
[09:38] <n2diy> livia: documentation is one of linux's weak points, what I just posted is the best I've found, even if it is RH orientated.
[09:38] <macd> leros, actualy just run the tar zxvf fileyoudownloaded
[09:38] <fredl> http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/
[09:38] <mdious> livia:  maybe the docs could start coming...although it would be easier doing it your way
[09:38] <macd> then copy libflashplayer.so into the above directory we talked about
[09:38] <snowdon> n2diy: whats the docu about?
[09:38] <n2diy> snowdon: linux
[09:39] <cdubya> I've always done most of that stuff through eclipse's update manager
[09:39] <n2diy> snowdon: linux :)
[09:39] <snowdon> n2diy: Be a little more specific please.
[09:39] <livia> n2diy: definitely.. =] 
[09:39] <snowdon> n2diy: i just got here and saw the last bit of what you said.
[09:39] <macd> fredl, dont use the ubuntu eclipse package its shite.
[09:39] <macd> just install from eclipse.org
[09:39] <fredl> macd - LOL, I just installed it :P
[09:39] <macd> well get ready for trouble ;P
[09:39] <n2diy> snowdon: anything I can imagine I'll ever need.
[09:40] <fredl> macd - it, and a LOT of packages it depends on
[09:40] <macd> apt-get remove
[09:40] <snowdon> n2diy: share the link?
[09:40] <macd> then apt-get autoremove
[09:40] <macd> easy peasy
[09:40] <livia> mdious: yeah.. i mean something extraordinary user friendly for tottaly beginners to linux... =] 
[09:40] <Polysics> i don't particularly like linux, but ONE look at the upcoming windows "upgrades" made me run here like a bullet :-)
[09:40] <NoEvidenZ> edgy doens't want to boot on my system
[09:40] <n2diy> snowdon: : take a look at this:  http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz
[09:40] <fredl> autoremove? never heard of that, what does it do?
[09:40] <fredl> autoclean?
[09:41] <macd> removes packages that were installed for dependancies, and dont have thier "parents" installed anymore
[09:41] <NoEvidenZ> Edgy doens't want to boot on my system. It just sits there on the black screen with the silver Ubuntu title, a few vertical lines.
[09:42] <NoEvidenZ> And I'm not the only one having this problem. Can anyone help?
[09:42] <snowdon> n2diy: thanks
[09:42] <Gyro54> on a stand alone computer - which is the correct Mythtv setup instruction to use? Is it the Backend-frontend and desktop instruction we should follow?
[09:42] <NoEvidenZ> !edgy
[09:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[09:42] <fredl> wow that's neat, but it doesn't even say that in the help page :P
[09:42] <fredl> macd, you use eclipse a lot?
[09:42] <n2diy> snowdon: nada
[09:42] <macd> fredl, I live in eclipse
[09:43] <mdious> i'm off, thanks for the company everyone
[09:43] <fredl> so as an Eclipse beginner that just wants to be able to edit WSDL files for now, would I still have lots of problems with Ubuntu's eclipse package?
[09:43] <atarinox> hi...has anyone heard of any problems with wireless connection dropping out in edgy?
[09:44] <atarinox> seems like it happens a few times  a day to me...
[09:44] <livia> atarinox: never! ahaheh joking
[09:44] <atarinox> or more
[09:44] <livia> atarinox: how is the signal?
[09:44] <NoEvidenZ> atarinox: I couldn't get mine to connect on Dapper, and now I can't boot Edgy.
[09:44] <atarinox> livia: strong...bunch of windows lappy users around me w/ no problems
[09:45] <leros> how do I copy a file into usr/lib/firefox/plugins, it says I do not have permissions to write to that directory.
[09:45] <fredl> macd, so as an Eclipse beginner that just wants to be able to edit WSDL files for now, would I still have lots of problems with Ubuntu's eclipse package?
[09:45] <macd> leros sudo cp
[09:45] <harp> why the error (broken cache) occurs if I install some package?
[09:45] <pyrohotdog> How do I mount an external USB drive...?
[09:45] <atarinox> i'm connected fine for awhile, then suddenly it drops and i have to go deactivate, then reactivate my wireless card
[09:46] <zoexii> hello!  does anyone know where I can find instruction for creating a bootable usb-flash for PPC?  I am having terrible install problems with a PowerBook Pismo.
[09:46] <macd> fredl, nah outta work fine, just dont attempt to install any plugins or update it
[09:46] <livia> NoEvidenZ: after what?
[09:46] <livia> atarinox: sorry i've no clue. it never happened to me
[09:46] <NoEvidenZ> livia: What do you mean?
[09:46] <fredl> macd, hehe but I need to install this WTP plugin, awe heck I'll just give it a try on the distro's Eclipse
[09:46] <atarinox> ah alright
[09:47] <NoEvidenZ> I used the CD to upgrade to Edgy, now it just sits at the loading screen and won't do anything.
[09:47] <macd> fredl, if is works I'll be surprised
[09:47] <fredl> well somebody on #eclipse is helping me out how to install this plugin....
[09:47] <macd> NoEvidenZ, reboot, hit esc for grub menu and select your old kernel.
[09:47] <macd> then boot and rerun your upgrade
[09:47] <livia> NoEvidenZ: u said u cant boo
[09:47] <livia> t
[09:48] <NoEvidenZ> Ah bugger it. I'm reformatting back to Dapper and going from there.
[09:48] <zoexii> hello!  does anyone know where I can find instruction for creating a bootable usb-flash for PPC?  I am having terrible install problems with a PowerBook Pismo.
[09:49] <cdubya> !ppc
[09:49] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[09:49] <cdubya> heh
[09:49] <cdubya> guess ubotu thought I needed that more than the install
[09:50] <macd> NoEvidenZ, I just told you howto fix it.
[09:50] <n30n> How do i send console messages.
[09:50] <snowdon> Are any manufacturers making Power PC's these days? apart from ibm?
[09:50] <zoexii> snowdon, they power the new xbox
[09:51] <cdubya> zoexii, doesn't look like you can with ubuntu.....http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28326
[09:51] <snowdon> I'm going to argue that an xbox is a computer but is more like a smart & dumb terminal.
[09:52] <NoEvidenZ> macd: it's one in a long line of problems.
[09:53] <n30n> Is that user list for freenode or just this room
[09:54] <Seta-San> linux continues to not be able to boot on my sytem
[09:54] <Seta-San> system *
[09:54] <macd> just this room.
[09:54] <hhanne> hi, i'm sitting behind a firewall, how can I tunnel svn?
[09:55] <macd> leros, did that solve your problem?
[09:55] <NoEvidenZ> Seta-San: It's something to do with Edgy. You could probably install Dapper, but I'm having wireless troubles with that
[09:55] <Seta-San> dapper?
[09:55] <Seta-San> an older version?
[09:55] <NoEvidenZ> the previous version, yeah.
[09:56] <Seta-San> i'm going to see how kubuntu works
[09:56] <NoEvidenZ> Heh, righto.
[09:56] <livia> i luv edgy.. ihihi although i never tried dapper
[09:56] <n30n> NoEvidenZ: I'm having wireless problems with all versons
[09:56] <NoEvidenZ> n30n: Using WEP encryption?
[09:56] <livia> but i've tried kubuntu and I HAteddd! jesus. eheheh
[09:56] <n30n> NoEvidenZ: none.
[09:56] <NoEvidenZ> None?
[09:56] <fredl> macd, I'm installing the WTK plugin and all of it's dependancies (HUGE!) through the Update Manager right now, at least the installation procedure seems to be working so far.
[09:56] <n30n> NoEvidenZ: no key
[09:56] <NoEvidenZ> I could get it to work without encryption, but not with.
[09:57] <zoexii> cdubya, hey, just read that thread.  That poster was mistaken, many but NOT ALL macs cannot boot from USB.  Regardless, Ineed a way to intall without optical drive...
[09:57] <macd> fredl, I wait for an error ;P
[09:57] <NoEvidenZ> n30n: make sure the ESSID name is the same as the one your router has.
[09:57] <n30n> NoEvidenZ: My lappy wont go wireless but i managed to get a desktop to run wirelss on the old 5.10
[09:57] <macd> Ive had wifi troubles since dapper as well
[09:57] <NoEvidenZ> Pain in the arse.
[09:57] <cdubya> zoexii, eww
[09:57] <macd> and I use an atheros based card
[09:57] <NoEvidenZ> Yeah, mine's Atheros based.
[09:57] <n30n> I tried ndiswrapper but failed
[09:58] <cdubya> zoexii, you have a firewire drive?
[09:58] <NoEvidenZ> macd: anything you'd suggest?
[09:58] <macd> yeah network-manager
[09:58] <NoEvidenZ> Besides turning off encryption, of course.
[09:58] <macd> I dumped WEP for WPA and its fine now in dapper/edgy/feisty
[09:58] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[09:58] <macd> slightly more compilcated setup, but it doesnt drop every 45 seconds
[09:58] <livia> i've had no problems at all.. with kubuntu was almost automatic. hihi
[09:59] <NoEvidenZ> I've got other things that require WEP though.
[09:59] <livia> and i've a complicated key. eheh
[09:59] <livia> and i'm in a lappy
[09:59] <macd> livia, some keys are wierd, like the dashes have to be removed in config
[09:59] <macd> odd "quirks"
[09:59] <livia> i have a Broadcom
[09:59] <SilentDis> !ubuntu+1
[09:59] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:00] <Seta-San> too late
[10:00] <Seta-San> by the end of this month
[10:00] <Seta-San> linux or vista will be on my computer
[10:00] <fredl> how do I check which Ubuntu version is on my computer
[10:00] <fredl> ?
[10:01] <livia> NoEvidenZ: u should try to get it working with the key but also, u can put the router to restrict access by MAC address. =]  i've both
[10:01] <macd> fredl, cat /etc/lsb-release outta do it
[10:01] <fredl> cool
[10:01] <macd> yes I use WPA and mac filters
[10:01] <macd> I wouldnt "fly" any other way
[10:02] <NoEvidenZ> I suppose I could try just using a MAC filter if all else fails.
[10:02] <livia> macd: what do u mean? i HAD to put the dashes in the KEY in the script for it to work
[10:03] <mcquaid> I can't remember the name of the gnome program.  Isn't there a program that list alll your hardware (video card, printer ram cpu etc)
[10:03] <macd> well sometimes you have to take them out
[10:03] <NoEvidenZ> Does network-manager come with dapper?
[10:03] <mcquaid> it's not device manager, I remember another program can't recall the name though
[10:04] <livia> macd: i dont think it is necessary  but... my brother is obssessed. ahahah
[10:04] <livia> macd: these tricky things that drives us all crazy and make some people go away from linux.. =/
[10:04] <NoEvidenZ> macd: Does network-manager come with Dapper,  or do i have to download it?
[10:04] <SilentDis> i lost my usplash screen a while ago, and have tried reinstalling it, but no good.  the machine works just fine, of course, but no pretty usplash.
[10:05] <macd> you can install it with apt-get
[10:05] <NoEvidenZ> so just apt-get install network-manager?
[10:05] <FisherP> Hi does anyone know how to set up a LAMP server with php?
[10:05] <SilentDis> !lamp | FisherP
[10:05] <ubotu> FisherP: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:05] <macd> yep@ NoEvidenZ
[10:06] <NoEvidenZ> I learned how to use apt-get. I'm so proud.
[10:06] <dreamer> :D
[10:06] <livia> i like using Synaptic
[10:06] <livia> aheheh
[10:06] <macd> NoEvidenZ, try out apt-cache search ;P
[10:06] <macd> its a whole new world of luvin
[10:06] <dreamer> in knoppix right now, don't know if I can do anything
[10:06] <dous> has anyone successfully used selenium-rc on edgy?
[10:06] <livia> once in red hat i f*cked up with my database with the rpm stuff... in the command line.. hihi
[10:07] <e1> SilentDis isn't upsplash old, and ur supposed ot use splashy, i'm not sure, i haven't installed any bootsplash screens yet, just hoping to contribute =)
[10:07] <livia> i luv the gui interface.. =] 
[10:08] <e1> livia of what
[10:08] <NoEvidenZ> macd: It sounds scary. ='[
[10:08] <dreamer> I think I can't boot because I mounted an usb'drive yesterday, but I mounted it in an unregular way (well, not like I used to, don't know how though) now I can't get past boot, don't know what the error was though, some kind of kernel panic
[10:08] <livia> e1: of every option in the console =]  mainly synapctic
[10:08] <Pie-rate> god i hate that LAMP acronym
[10:08] <dreamer> haha
[10:09] <Pie-rate> stupid buzzwords
[10:09] <SilentDis> el, it's refered to as 'usplash' in edgy, i believe.  I remember mucking around with one (i THINK it was the ubuntu satanic one), uninstalled it, and ever since then, no more pretty usplash on start.  not sure what it's issue is, i'm unsure what log to check to see if there's an error kicked out
[10:09] <opteek> why
[10:09] <e1> livia you have synaptic in console?
[10:09] <livia> e1: duh
[10:09] <e1> livia i thought synaptic has a gui
[10:09] <livia> e1: ahehe i guess u know what I mean
[10:09] <e1> livia o so u were saying u like synaptic in gui =)
[10:10] <e1> livia misunderstood
[10:10] <SilentDis> livia, synaptic - gui.  apt-get - command line, aptitude - command line w/ 'pretty' interface option :)
[10:10] <dreamer> anybody know how I can fix my boot? safemode didn't work either
[10:10] <livia> SilentDis: exactly
[10:10] <frogzoo>                                                     /11
[10:10] <fredl> macd - it's STILL downloading and I don't have a slow internet connection :P
[10:11] <livia> e1: i mean that i prefer the Gui options to solve stuff instead of the command line.. =] 
[10:11] <crazy_bus> I'm trying to load programs over ssh.  What program's do I need to install
[10:11] <SilentDis> livia, give that time.  soon, you'll find that a quick sudo aptitude install <package> is a LOT faster for you ;)
[10:11] <e1> SilentDis it's e1 (e-one), i'm just saying so msgs can be highlighted with red =) anyways, if u uninstalled it, doesn't the wallpaper get uninstalled with it too, that might be the problem, but u prolly thought of that already tho, i'm not sure
[10:11] <kokos> :)
[10:12] <FisherP> SilentDis: Ive done everything by the book, everything is installed and I have removed the comments from the lines "AddType application/x-httpd-php .php" and  "ddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps" and I've issued "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart"
[10:12] <livia> SilentDis: i know but i like. hehehee i'm old to linux.. believe.. =] 
[10:12] <fredl> macd - the whole install seems to have worked fine!
[10:12] <sethly> is there an EASY way to make 1600x1200 my screen res?
[10:12] <NexusL> atleast it is working for someone,lol
[10:12] <e1> sethly do u use nvidia?
[10:12] <HellRazor> Can someone help me get my internet working? I'm connected from a cable modem to a hub, then out to two computers. One's getting internet, one's not even getting an IP.
[10:12] <sethly> no intel
[10:12] <sethly> e1: no intel
[10:13] <SilentDis> e1, i had, yes.  reinstalled the orignal usplash package, also.  sorry about the name thing, btw.  it's 0312 here, and i'm yawning more than breathing right now
[10:13] <phr34ck> how can I empty the garbage bin from the terminal ?
[10:13] <FisherP> SilentDis: sounds like bed time to me :-)
[10:13] <e1> sethly o nvm sorry, but just for reference, if it were in nvidia, i think u can do nvidia-xconf --screen_mode = 1600x1200, something equivalent is prolly there for intel
[10:13] <frogzoo> phr34ck: cat /dev/garbage | /dev/null
[10:14] <SilentDis> FisherP, I have yet to experiment with LAMP on Ubuntu.  I've still got everything all setup on my little bsd server in my closet rofl
[10:14] <HellRazor> Got your pm NexusL, should I just pick a random IP, or is there a specific one?
[10:14] <sethly> cd /home/username/.Trash and rm * ???
[10:14] <e1> i forget the exact line for nvidia configuration tho, i'm just saying there's a line like that that'll do it
[10:14] <FisherP> SilentDis: It's OK, I will persist :-|
[10:14] <FisherP> SilentDis: It's OK, I will persist >:-|
[10:14] <e1> SilentDis o this is just a random name i made up cuz i was too lazy to type, i don't usually use this screen name anyway, i was only saying cuz i almost missed ur msg =) sorry about that
[10:14] <HellRazor> So without a router, I can't split my connection?
[10:14] <phr34ck> /dev/garbage <--- No such file or directory
[10:15] <NexusL> HellRazor: check your PMs please
[10:15] <stefg> HellRazor: That's the whole reason of existence for routers :-)
[10:15] <n2diy> sethly: rm * ??? that is dangerous.
[10:15] <frogzoo> HellRazor: you can use your linux box to do NAT
[10:15] <HellRazor> I do, NexusL, but I've even tried to plug the modem directly to the computer with no luck.
[10:15] <FisherP> HellRazor: you can make one computer a server.. it's what I do
[10:15] <HellRazor> How would I go about doing that FisherP
[10:16] <NexusL> yeah i got nothing on that one
[10:16] <fredl> macd, when I try to open a WSDL file I was already working on however....java.lang.ClassCastException: org.eclipse.ui.internal.editors.text.JavaFileEditorInput cannot be cast to org.eclipse.ui.IFileEditorInput
[10:16] <NexusL> i would say it would be easier to just get a router
[10:16] <macd> fredl, thats the error.
[10:16] <fredl> :)
[10:16] <HellRazor> Shouldn't when I plug in the modem directly to the computer though, I have internet? Because even in that scenario, I still don't grab an IP
[10:16] <phr34ck> how can I empty the garbage bin from the terminal ?
[10:16] <macd> its b/c your mixing a distro build with eclipse.org updates + plugins
[10:16] <sethly> n2diy: is rm * dangerous or rm * ???
[10:16] <livia> ok, it was very nice to play with u guys but i'm leaving! ahehe
[10:16] <FisherP> HellRazor: but then I send everything through dansguardian.  Well, the server has two network cards and the other one plugs in.
[10:16] <fredl> so much for write once, run anywhere huh? :)
[10:17] <macd> yeah..hehe
[10:17] <fredl> or am I being overly cynical then? :)
[10:17] <NexusL> or take a older PC and use somethin glike what is it cotoyelinux? HellRazor what do you mean you plug the computer in and still no internet are you sure your modem is even hitting the net?
[10:17] <n2diy> sethly: rm * ??? that is dangerous.
[10:17] <NexusL> n2diy: yeah i agree
[10:18] <FisherP> HellRazor:each to thier own. The other computer is for the kids, so I want them protected against all the greeblies out there. If you don't need that sort've functionallity then get a router
[10:18] <sethly> without the question marks phr34ck
[10:18] <HellRazor> Yes, I'm sure, because when I run it through the hub, I'm using the internet it's connected to on this computer. It's my other computer on the network that's left in the dark. But when I even go DIRECTLY from the cable modem to the computer that's not working, I can't grab an IP or get on the net.
[10:18] <phr34ck> sethly, what ?
[10:18] <NexusL> HellRazor: bad NIC?
[10:18] <stefg> HellRazor: your LAN is ethernet, while the DSL line is usually PPPOE
[10:18] <FisherP> HellRazor: what about NAT forwarding.. I would assume it's switched on?
[10:19] <sethly> phr34ck: i think you can go to /home/username/.Trash and rm *
[10:19] <SilentDis> hmm... where does the boot process log to?
[10:19] <sethly> can anyone verify?
[10:19] <xmOD> how would i access my ftp from ubuntu??
[10:19] <NexusL> ok wait, HellRazor Cable modem of DSL?
[10:19] <phr34ck> sethly, okay.
[10:19] <HellRazor> It worked yesterday, and it blinks to show that it is recieving. I don't have NAT forwarding on my computer.
[10:19] <xmOD> to upload files
[10:19] <HellRazor> Cable NexusL
[10:19] <NexusL> cable or DSL rather
[10:19] <NexusL> ok, just makign sure
[10:19] <stefg> !ftp
[10:19] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[10:19] <phr34ck> sethly, thanks.
[10:19] <NexusL> so WITH the hub, your able to connect from one computer(compA) and not the second(compB)
[10:19] <xmOD> does'nt ubuntu have nautilus built in?
[10:19] <FisherP> I'm out Have Fun
[10:19] <NexusL> right/
[10:20] <NexusL> later FisherP
[10:20] <n2diy> SilentDis: /var/log/dmesg.
[10:20] <had0c> heh i have a little ''newbie'' questuin of someone have the time, how do you boot W/O X in Ubuntu * need to know fot installing 3d card drives
[10:20] <HellRazor> Right, but even without the hub, I can't connect from the modem to the computer (b) and get an IP or access the net.
[10:20] <SilentDis> xmOD, yes.  you can just type an ftp addy right into the nautilus address bar, and go :)
[10:20] <SilentDis> n2diy, thanks :)
[10:20] <n2diy> SilentDis: nada
[10:20] <xmOD> @SilentDis : and i can upload files also?
[10:20] <NexusL> HellRazor: and that is just compB right, the other computer CompA is fine, about to connect,right?
[10:21] <HellRazor> Right.
[10:21] <SilentDis> xmOD, yep :)
[10:21] <stefg> had0c: you dont need to retstart. g to a text-terminal by ctrl-alt-f1, login there and give 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' ... your X is down then, you can install new drivers
[10:21] <NexusL> HellRazor: i say, check the port on the hub, check cable from compB to hub and check the compB network card
[10:21] <xmOD> and now how do i access nautilus? lol...
[10:21] <had0c> ahh so its that easy?
[10:22] <SilentDis> xmOD, if you need to use a username/password for the ftp site, type it in like this:  ftp://username@server.address.com/
[10:22] <NexusL> xmOD: i believe it is a terminal program no/
[10:22] <HellRazor> Done all of the above NexusL. The problem is in Ubuntu, because AFAIK, I should be able to run my cable directly from my modem to the computer and get the net. I can't even get that far.
[10:22] <SilentDis> xmOD, Places > Connect To Server will make it all VERY easy, as well :)
[10:22] <stefg> had0c: in case youre just about to make the mistake and try to install Nvidia-Drivers not by synaptic... read !nvidia
[10:23] <NexusL> HellRazor: how did you confirm it was not the card?
[10:23] <had0c> !nividia
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nividia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <stefg> !nvidia | had0c
[10:23] <ubotu> had0c: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:23] <n2diy> ! ati
[10:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:23] <HellRazor> NexusL: I used another connection on it this morning, and I can tell it's recieving data beccause ifconfig shows it. I'm just not capable of accesssing the web or getting an IP for some reason.
[10:24] <NexusL> ubotu: THANK YOU
[10:24] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[10:24] <n2diy> ?
[10:24] <had0c> sek reading
[10:24] <SilentDis> !envy | had0c - If you're looking to go with the binary blobs for your nvidia card, and want a very easy way to install them try this -
[10:24] <ubotu> had0c - If you're looking to go with the binary blobs for your nvidia card, and want a very easy way to install them try this -: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[10:24] <NexusL> HellRazor: then i got nothing
[10:24] <NexusL> HellRazor: may try like someone else suggested make a little PC router
[10:25] <HellRazor> I could make a router, or I'd even pick up one to replace the hub, but until the problem of the computer not recieving an IP is solved, my internet problem won't be fixed.
[10:25] <xmOD> OK that worked! I can log in now! thx
[10:26] <SilentDis> xmOD, nt :)
[10:26] <NoEvidenZ> ok, so apt-get network-manager says it can't find the package 'network-manager'
[10:27] <stefg> HellRazor: you are aware of the difference in being connected to a router or to a DSL modem directly?
[10:27] <n2diy> oh well
[10:27] <NexusL> we tried
[10:27] <NexusL> now i get to retry this install on a inspiron 6400
[10:27] <xmOD> will installing the zip package from synaptic also enable me to open rar compressed files?
[10:27] <n2diy> :) yep
[10:28] <stefg> !rar
[10:28] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[10:28] <fredl> macd - you familiar with PDT?
[10:28] <had0c> well it is a geforce 5600 fx card, so i dont know if that is an old one now a days or not ;)
[10:28] <SilentDis> woo, dizy from moving my head now.  that's bad.  it's bed time lol
[10:28] <SilentDis> g'night all :)
[10:28] <n2diy> NexusL: good luck.
[10:28] <stefg> had0c: 'old' means geforce 2 :-)
[10:29] <macd> fredl not so much
[10:29] <macd> I dont do much php
[10:29] <NexusL> n2diy: i will need it, my issue always starts with xserver
[10:29] <had0c> so that phyton ''thing'' is notting for me then i guess ;)
[10:29] <NoEvidenZ> macd: apt-get install network-manager didn't work. What now?
[10:29] <n2diy> NexusL: 6.10 and ati/nividia?
[10:29] <fredl> macd, so I'm seeing all these nice eclipse plugins on eclipse.org, like PDT... they all have download links, but couldn't I install them all from within Eclipse?
[10:30] <marshall> hey guys
[10:30] <marshall> how do you play a video on another computer over your samba home network?
[10:30] <fredl> macd, like I just did for this WTP
[10:30] <macd> NoEvidenZ, try network-manager-gnome
[10:30] <NoEvidenZ> ok, thanks
[10:30] <macd> yeah you can install them from the update menu
[10:30] <oidia> marshall: mount it, then play it?
[10:30] <stefg> had0c: sudo apt-get install linux-retricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable.  Type this in a terminal, restart your X and you're done
[10:30] <NexusL> n2diy: no to be honest i am a retard can can;t figure out how to burn a iso on XP worth the life of me,lol i am using a order 5.4 CD but yes it is ATI
[10:30] <fredl> macd, only problem is though, where the heck to I find PDT in the update menu
[10:31] <marshall> ive found the video on nautilus and opened it in totem, but totem buffers the video and pauses
[10:31] <marshall> oida, wha?
[10:31] <oidia> marshall: try "vlc"
[10:31] <marshall> oidia, the video is on the downstairs XP machine
[10:31] <n2diy> ! at i NexusL
[10:31] <marshall> oidia, ok
[10:31] <ubotu> at: Delayed job execution and batch processing. In component main, is standard. Version 3.1.10ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 41 kB, installed size 208 kB
[10:31] <Seta-San> just beat portrait of ruin!!
[10:31] <macd> fredl, you have to add the location to the update menu... then add new software
[10:31] <n2diy> ! ati | NexusL
[10:31] <ubotu> NexusL: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:32] <stefg> marshall: vlc is the thing to look at
[10:32] <jfletcher> quit
[10:32] <NexusL> ubotu: yes that is what i was sayign Thank You For
[10:32] <stefg> !me
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <stefg> !ubotu
[10:33] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:33] <n2diy> NexusL, Uboutu is the robot, I told him to tell you that. ;)
[10:33] <had0c> did not work
[10:33] <NexusL> what is a edit request?
[10:34] <n2diy> him/her?
[10:34] <stefg> had0c: what did not work? there was a typo inthe line i gave you
[10:34] <had0c> could not find the packets linux-restricted-moudules-Bladibladiblah
[10:34] <stefg> had0c: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable.  Type this in a terminal, restart your X and you're done
[10:35] <fredl> macd, there's a 'The Eclipse Project Update' site in my 'Sites to include in search'
[10:35] <outlaw> Does anyone here now, why after installing connection-manager connection to network is established... only problem is that it doesn't opens web pages
[10:35] <macd> fredl, yeah you have to add more sites
[10:35] <fredl> macd, and I see PDT on download.eclipse.org
[10:35] <NoEvidenZ> macd: do i need to be on the net for this?
[10:35] <had0c> ok now it works
[10:35] <n2diy> outlaw: did you set up DNS?
[10:35] <outlaw> n2diy i typed dns
[10:35] <fredl> macd, well there's plenty more but I imagined the eclipse project update site might ehr... well n/m
[10:36] <outlaw> and it is also in resolve.conf
[10:36] <had0c> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[10:36] <had0c> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[10:36] <macd> hehe
[10:36] <n2diy> outlaw: didi it go/work?
[10:36] <outlaw> n2diy noup :S
[10:36] <macd> good luck fredl
[10:36] <n2diy> ! dns
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <n2diy> ! DNS
[10:37] <NexusL> i shall return
[10:37] <stefg> had0c: sudo depmod -ae
[10:37] <outlaw> the thing is... that it works if i am connected with cable
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DNS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <n2diy> outlaw: I think you need to configure your DNS serves.
[10:37] <had0c> rebot now or ;) ?
[10:37] <n2diy> serves/servers
[10:37] <stefg> had0c: sudo/etc/init.d/?dm restart
[10:38] <outlaw> hm
[10:38] <Phlosten> does nautilus' right click share folder option actually work?
[10:38] <outlaw> what exactly to be reconfigured
[10:39] <n2diy> outlaw: system-networking, and then edit whatever interface you are using to connect with.
[10:40] <n2diy> outlaw: system-networking, and then edit whatever interface you are using to connect with. ??
[10:40] <outlaw> n2diy ok
[10:41] <n2diy> ! DNS
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DNS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <n2diy> ! you are sorry
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you are sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <n2diy> ?
[10:44] <jonah1980> hi guys, when i try install or remove anything in synaptics i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/421/    can anyone please help me out fixing it?
[10:44] <NoEvidenZ> !sex
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <NoEvidenZ> Well I thought it was funny..
[10:45] <Snakesonatrain> Can someone explain to me how to make my computer get an address from my cable modem?
[10:46] <n2diy> jonah1980: why are you going to paste? What happens when you click on system-admin-synaptic?
[10:46] <had0c> well it basicly says now that it cant  find linux-retricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386
[10:46] <stefg> !dsl
[10:46] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[10:46] <had0c> like the last time ;o
[10:47] <stefg> !cable
[10:47] <jonah1980> n2dily,  synaptic just loads up as normal
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <Snakesonatrain> LOL, no love for those on the coax
[10:47] <n2diy> jonah1980: so, where is the problem?
[10:47] <Ali_24_Oman> Hello There
[10:48] <Skyrail> When I switch on my PC it loads up and the Ubuntu loading screen comes up, but when it finishes loading it just goes to a black screen. The little tune places to tell me I've reached the logon screen so I just type my name and password and login but I can't actually see anything until the window in the middle appears and loads the desktop things like Nautilus etc. Anyone any ideas what the problem is? After I login it it's all fine and I can see everythin
[10:48] <Snakesonatrain> All I can get is the loopback address
[10:48] <jonah1980> n2dily, the problem is when i try to install something or remove something and i get this error: E: python-dictclient: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[10:48] <Ali_24_Oman> are you all americans
[10:48] <Seta-San> probably
[10:48] <stefg> Snakesonatrain: are you familiar with dhcp? How's your setup suppsed to work? Do you have to get an IP from your ISP by dhcp?
[10:48] <Seta-San> i am
[10:49] <jonah1980> Ali_24_Oman, no we not all americans - ubuntu is global...
[10:49] <Seta-San> what does t matter if we're americans anyway?
[10:49] <Ali_24_Oman> Is a stupid question
[10:49] <Ali_24_Oman> is'nt
[10:49] <n2diy> jonah1980: yuck, I don't know what to tell you?
[10:49] <Snakesonatrain> stefg: I know my modem has DHCP, it's supposed to receive the IP from the cable company and assign it to whatever it's plugged into. Problem is, ubuntu is ignoring that and not pulling an IP
[10:49] <jonah1980> n2dily,  weird huh?
[10:50] <n2diy> jonah1980: n2diy, thank you. :)
[10:50] <stefg> Snakesonatrain: any success by manually issuing a dhcp-request by 'sudo dhclient' after boot? Sometimes there are timing issues involved
[10:50] <n2diy> Ali_24_Oman: who cares, do you want help or not?
[10:50] <Snakesonatrain> Nope, all it finds is subnet masks. 255.255.255.0
[10:50] <jonah1980> n2dily, no, thank you
[10:51] <jonah1980> n2dily, so is that something you've seen before? i've no idea how to fix it...
[10:51] <Peebo> Hey all back again: Just ran my Ubuntu desktop CD on my laptop, can anyone tell me why it has defaulted to to displaying on the external monitor and not the LCD screen and how do I fix this if I install it.
[10:51] <daviey> Hi, anybody here using hula?
[10:51] <n2diy> jonah1980: n2diy, n2diy, n2diy, not n2dily, ok? simple no?
[10:51] <Peebo> !hula
[10:51] <ubotu> hula: integrated mail & calendar system with simple interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0+svn379-2.1 (edgy), package size 3081 kB, installed size 8452 kB
[10:52] <jonah1980> n2diy, haha ok sorry - i slept in, blurry vision - didn't mean to be ignorant
[10:52] <n2diy> jonah1980: np
[10:53] <jonah1980> n2diy, so is there anything i can try to fix it?
[10:53] <Ali_24_Oman> Soory, I did'nt mean anything by my question
[10:53] <Ali_24_Oman> I just was trying something here
[10:53] <n2diy> jonah1980: yuck, I don't know what to tell you?
[10:53] <Ali_24_Oman> Bye
[10:54] <jonah1980> Ali_24_Oman, didn't mean anything by response, bye
[10:54] <daviey> Peebo, do you use hula?
[10:54] <Peebo> Neva heard of it until I !hula
[10:54] <jonah1980> n2diy, how would i reisntall it from terminal cos it won't let me in synaptic
[10:54] <Snakesonatrain> Any clue stef?
[10:55] <n2diy> jonah1980: apt-get?
[10:55] <dreamer> I get this error on boot (since I mounted an usb-drive): [42949374.470000]  Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on un known-block(0,0)
[10:55] <Domhnall>  does anybody here know about installing ubuntu as a virtual OS under vmware workstation? it stops responding while testing network repository
[10:55] <boldore> hi, noob question: what doest ! mean? for example !hula ?
[10:55] <jonah1980> n2diy, yeah - what' s the reinstall command and what do i need to reinstall do you think?
[10:55] <stefg> !dhcp-client | Snakesonatrain
[10:55] <ubotu> dhcp-client: DHCP Client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 102 kB, installed size 284 kB
[10:55] <Peebo> it asks the channel bot a question
[10:56] <boldore> a ok
[10:56] <boldore> thx
[10:56] <Angelus> hi everyone!
[10:56] <Domhnall> forget that! it decided to work now
[10:56] <Peebo> like What is xxxxxxx
[10:56] <mneptok> Snakesonatrain: were you using a different machine with this ISP recently?
[10:56] <n2diy> jonah1980: I'd go for synanaptic.
[10:56] <Snakesonatrain> Yes mneptok.
[10:56] <Peebo> !Samba
[10:56] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:56] <stefg> Snakesonatrain: readv the description of the package :-) http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/net/dhcp-client
[10:56] <n2diy> jonah1980: I'd go for synaptic.
[10:56] <jonah1980> n2diy, it won't let me reinstall anything in there
[10:57] <dreamer> anybody on my boot-problem? (edgy btw)
[10:57] <n2diy> jonah1980: try apt-get install synaptic?
[10:57] <Peebo> Just ran my Ubuntu desktop CD on my laptop, can anyone tell me why it has defaulted to to displaying on the external monitor and not the LCD screen and how do I fix this if I install it.
[10:57] <mneptok> Snakesonatrain: power cyle the modem for ~5 minutes. your ISP has probably done a MAC address assignment.
[10:57] <Skyrail> When I switch on my PC it loads up and the Ubuntu loading screen comes up, but when it finishes loading it just goes to a black screen. The little tune places to tell me I've reached the logon screen so I just type my name and password and login but I can't actually see anything until the window in the middle appears and loads the desktop things like Nautilus etc. Anyone any ideas what the problem is? After I login it it's all fine and I can see everythin
[10:57] <Snakesonatrain> Definitely sounds useful stef...
[10:57] <Angelus> does anyone know of a program to use with a nokia mobile phone?
[10:57] <Aki> hello, would anyone be able to spare a total newcomer to linux a few minutes to help me out?
[10:57] <jonah1980> n2diy, no i mean it won't let me reinstall python-dictclient , synaptic itself is working ok, but something wrong with that package
[10:58] <Peebo> Skyrail is this on a LAptop
[10:58] <snowdon> peebo: is the monitor it defaulted to using a vga connector?
[10:58] <xmOD> !zip
[10:58] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:58] <Peebo> snowdon: Yup
[10:58] <stefg> Skyrail: the default resolution for gdm is borked. Sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:58] <snowdon> Peebo: Is the LCD using DVI ?
[10:58] <n2diy> jonah1980: ah, ok, I don't know what to tell you then?
[10:59] <Peebo> The LCD is built into the LAptop
[10:59] <jonah1980> n2diy, ok well thanks anyway
[10:59] <n2diy> jonah1980: nada, good luck.
[10:59] <Snakesonatrain> Tried cycling the modem.. nadda
[10:59] <boldore> Angelus , I am a noob too, but if you have a question tell it. You will get help here
[10:59] <Peebo> snowdon: The LCD is built into the Laptop
[10:59] <snowdon> Peebo: Disconnect the external monitor, while your machine is shutdown. Then boot it up, and then plug in the external monitor once the laptop has recognized its own built-in one as the default.
[11:00] <snowdon> Try that otherwise i don't really have any ideas
[11:00] <mneptok> Snakesonatrain: youi need to turn the modem and any machines connectedi to it off. for 5 minutes.
[11:00] <n2diy> snowdon: don't hook up the
[11:00] <Peebo> snowdon: I never had the external monitor plugged in when I first turned it on. I had to plug it in to diagnose the issue with a black screen
[11:01] <n2diy> external monitor on a live system!
[11:01] <Snakesonatrain> Tried that mneptok.. didn't work.
[11:01] <Snakesonatrain> Even had them clean it out
[11:01] <boldore> Angelus: the ubuntu wiki is also very good. wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:01] <Angelus> cool thank you
[11:02] <boldore> I found everything I needed
[11:02] <boldore> and I am a total linux/newbie
[11:02] <stefg> Snakesonatrain: as i read you need the dhcp-clinet pacvkage installed.. it's in universe, this means it's not installed by default
[11:03] <n2diy> boldore: and ??
[11:03] <mneptok> Snakesonatrain: so ask your ISP what is wrong with their DHCP
[11:03] <Peebo> n2diy: I had to plug in the external monitor on my live system to get an image
[11:03] <boldore> n2diy?
[11:03] <mneptok> stefg: all the DHCP client tools necessary to get a leaseare in the default install
[11:03] <n2diy> Peepo, don't do that live, or you can kill your monitor.
[11:04] <Aki> all the information i am finding at the moment is far more in depth than is useful to me, can anyone suggest a site that will help answer the most basic of questions regarding ubuntu OS and linux in general?
[11:04] <Cameron|lappy> someone please translate lol this is way off topic but whoa translate
[11:04] <Cameron|lappy> Your attractions are currently buried within the safety net of your own rationalizations.
[11:04] <boldore> n2diy : I told Angelus about ubuntu wiki and that it helped me very well
[11:04] <Cameron|lappy> its from my horoscope
[11:04] <mneptok> Aki: such as?
[11:04] <Snakesonatrain> stef, I've got it installled, but it still isn't working on that computer. mneptok, they say their server is all good
[11:04] <mneptok> Snakesonatrain: "they say"
[11:04] <n2diy> boldore: welcome, do you have a question, or just want to hang out?
[11:04] <stefg> mneptok: i know, but the description of the dhcp-client package explicitly mentions that it's necessary for cable-connections
[11:04] <Seta-San> torrents are nice and all... but they kill your router
[11:04] <Peebo> MSI laptop with ATI X700 dedicated video AMD Turion 64 cpu
[11:04] <mneptok> Snakesonatrain: you have evidence it is not
[11:05] <mneptok> stefg: not true
[11:05] <Cameron|lappy> what would safety net of rationalizations mean?
[11:05] <boldore> thx it runs well at the moment ...
[11:05] <Cameron|lappy> what you mean bt kills ur router?
[11:05] <n2diy> boldore: ok, I missed something, I'm getting tired and should go to bed. :)
[11:05] <Aki> mneptok: well, considering i know next to nothing, my first question is whether i will be able to get this OS to run on my current machine, which has always been a  windows os
[11:05] <Snakesonatrain> I have evidence that their DHCP works fine though as my buddies computer (the one I'm using) is on the same service and working fine.
[11:05] <Seta-San> internet crawls to snail pace
[11:05] <Seta-San> webpages take forever
[11:05] <mneptok> stefg: thousands of Ubuntu usere use cable modems with the included tools
[11:06] <Peebo> nunu is having an identity crisis
[11:06] <Cameron|lappy> i guess they can but not if you limit ur upstream to a few KB less than ur actual cap
[11:06] <Cameron|lappy> i use bt like 24/7
[11:06] <Seta-San> i've got a linksys router running linux through dd-wrt
[11:07] <Peebo> How do I tell Ubuntu which monitor to use an a dual-head system
[11:07] <mneptok> Snakesonatrain: that logic is somewhat flawed
[11:07] <Snakesonatrain> Yeah, my box used to love my connection.. now it doesn't even recognize the IP.. :sobs:
[11:08] <n2diy> logic?
[11:08] <Snakesonatrain> What commands are there to get the thing to even  hunt for an IP?
[11:08] <mneptok> Fanxrfbangenva: fvapr v pna ernq guvf, lbh boivbhfyl unir n oebxra zbavgbe ;)
[11:08] <n2diy> ! logic
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <n2diy> ?
[11:09] <mneptok> Snakesonatrain: sudo dhclient eth0
[11:09] <Peebo> !sex
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <Snakesonatrain> That one I've tried mneptok, but all it finds is the subnet mask\
[11:09] <Peebo> !anything
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <Peebo> :)
[11:10] <mneptok> Snakesonatrain: it. is. the. ISP.
[11:10] <boldore> Peebo??
[11:10] <mneptok> +a
[11:10] <stefg> Snakesonatrain: may be it's worth pasting your /etc/network/interfaces to the pastebin
[11:10] <n2diy> ! Peebo
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Peebo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <Skyrail> stefg: ah thanks :) I'll try that, will it get rid of my current resolution on my desktop? I'd already spent ages trying to sort out resolution problems
[11:10] <Peebo> :)
[11:10] <Snakesonatrain> Well, I can't paste it, but I can sum it up, only way to paste it would be to get the connection on the other pc working
[11:10] <stefg> !fixres | Skyrail
[11:10] <ubotu> Skyrail: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:11] <daviey> I want to have a webmail interface that can be used concurrently with evolution.... any ideas?
[11:11] <ademan> what can be used to play *.flv files?
[11:11] <n2diy> We're going to get booted if we keep this up.
[11:11] <eXistenZ> What is ubuntu french?
[11:11] <ademan> !french
[11:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:11] <n2diy> ! fr
[11:11] <Seta-San> no mandriva is french
[11:11] <Skyrail> stefg: thanks
[11:11] <Seta-San> ubuntu is african isn't it?
[11:12] <pogoj> Hello all
[11:12] <boldore> lol
[11:12] <harp> )
[11:12] <Peebo> !Australian
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Australian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <boldore> ubuntu is global ;)
[11:12] <Peebo> !Australia
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Australia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <harp> !ubuntu
[11:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[11:12] <n2diy> ! au
[11:12] <mneptok> Peebo: stop
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about au - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <Peebo> Ignorant bot !
[11:12] <stefg> Seta-San: yes, it's an old african saying, meaning:' I can't configure Debian' :-)
[11:12] <Seta-San> well, the word ubuntu has it's origins in african anyway?
[11:12] <Snakesonatrain> stefg: I've got it open, it shows autolo, iface lo loopback, and then it has a looback address and a sub mask, then all the interfaces listed.
[11:12] <Soraa> is there a ididots guide to Ubuntu online?
[11:12] <mneptok> n2diy: you too, please
[11:12] <gebruiker_> where can I find more info on preseed?
[11:12] <pogoj> stefg: Haha
[11:13] <n2diy> mneptok: 10-4
[11:13] <mneptok> Snakesonatrain: ls /dev/eth*
[11:13] <stefg> Snakesonatrain: and the interfaces (eth0, eth1) are set to auto?
[11:13] <Angelus> how do I navigate to the directories in th root
[11:13] <Peebo> !preseed
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about preseed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <Angelus> for example I want to create a file in usr\bin
[11:14] <Snakesonatrain> Yes stefg
[11:14] <Snakesonatrain> just a sec mneptok
[11:14] <daviey> stefg, ubuntu is a defintion for, why should i bother configuring debian when ubuntu does it out of the box
[11:14] <stefg> Snakesonatrain: so i tend to second mneptok in yelling at your isp
[11:14] <mneptok> Angelus: we use forward slashes like real humans in Linux ;)
[11:15] <Peebo> 3rded
[11:15] <Snakesonatrain> So I should yell at them, and say what exactly? They don't like linux very much
[11:15] <Angelus> ok but I can't get to that directory
[11:15] <Peebo> Snakes..: Tell them you use Windoze and pretend to everything they ask.
[11:15] <Angelus> it doesn't show me
[11:16] <Snakesonatrain> And it's definitely a problem on their end even if I take and plug the connection from the modem to another computer running ubuntu and it automatically works?
[11:16] <Peebo> Snakes..: No
[11:16] <Snakesonatrain> That's why I was thinking it's my box's fault.
[11:16] <stefg> Snakesonatrain: Time for the '3 inch method' on the non-working box :-)
[11:17] <Snakesonatrain> What's that?
[11:17] <mneptok> Snakesonatrain: "Your DHCP server seems to expect certain clients, namely Windows. My money goes to companies that support standards, not break them. Please use RFC-compliant DHCP or lose my business."
[11:17] <stefg> lift it three inches and let it drop
[11:17] <Pie-rate> how would i change the default application used to open all video files?
[11:17] <mneptok> Snakesonatrain: ls /dev/eth*
[11:17] <Soraa> i went to the Top 20 questions and this page does not exitst it says :: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XglHowto ::
[11:17] <boldore> Angelus: you can
[11:17] <Pie-rate> or all audio files?
[11:17] <Snakesonatrain> mneptok: that dir doesn't exsist on my machine
[11:18] <Angelus> I'm trying to follow the instructions to get my bluetooth working but it asks me to create a file in a directory
[11:18] <mneptok> Snakesonatrain: what kind of NIC?
[11:18] <Angelus> I can't get to the directory through terminal
[11:18] <mneptok> Angelus: cd /usr/bin
[11:18] <Angelus> and it wont let me create the file through the file manager
[11:18] <Snakesonatrain> LOL stefg.. I just don't get the logistics. It works on this computer fine, I plug it into mine and nothing. Basically same hardware and all. And mneptok it's an onboard intel nic
[11:18] <mneptok> Angelus: / and NOT \
[11:19] <mneptok> Snakesonatrain: what kind?
[11:19] <Angelus> thank you!!!! much appreciated
[11:19] <washbear> what are the top three *low*-memory desktops?
[11:19] <Angelus> is there a way that you can see the directory in the terminal?
[11:19] <snowdon> Snake: Whats the problem?
[11:19] <Snakesonatrain> mneptok: Intel nic. Tha'ts about all I know.
[11:19] <pogoj> desktops?
[11:19] <stefg> Snakesonatrain: it might be a stupid hardware problem, like broken cable, or the NIC sitiing loose in the socket
[11:19] <qubit> I need to pull a laptop drive from a dead iBook and get data off of it (I have a USB enclosure) -- will I need to recompile my kernel to get HFS support?
[11:19] <mneptok> Snakesonatrain: if the drivers for that NIC are binary blobs, then the drivers are not installed
[11:20] <washbear> pogoj - well, window maker if you want
[11:20] <pogoj> washbear: You mean window manager yes?
[11:20] <Snakesonatrain> Well I know the drivers work for the card, I used a DSL connection on it the other night. I've checked the cables and all stef.. that was my first line of thought.
[11:20] <stefg> Snakesonatrain: so if you have two nearly identical setups, one works, one doesn't your are actually in a godd position for troubleshooting
[11:20] <mneptok> washbear: xfce balances resources and usability well, imo
[11:20] <Soraa> is xgl included in Ubuntu?
[11:21] <stefg> !xgl
[11:21] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:21] <washbear> mneptok - with apt-get xubuntu-desktop ?
[11:21] <Snakesonatrain> Only thing different about mine and his is from where his yanked the DHCP up, picked the name serv, etc, whereas mine got jack crap. I tried manually editing it and got crap to show for my effort.
[11:21] <boldore> Angelus: do you mean ls ?
[11:21] <pogoj> washbear: I'd recommend fluxbox for a very lightweight wm
[11:22] <Soraa> thx ubotu
[11:22] <mneptok> washbear: +install ;)
[11:22] <washbear> hehe
[11:22] <pogoj> xfce isn't too bad either :)
[11:22] <abstruck> hi, anyone using python2.5? on another pc i've experienced some problems during the transition... e.g. python-central gave errors
[11:22] <evolus> !compiz
[11:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:23] <pogoj> !ratpoison
[11:23] <ubotu> ratpoison: keyboard-only window manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.4.0.dfsg-4 (edgy), package size 157 kB, installed size 464 kB
[11:23] <pogoj> w00t
[11:23] <NoEvidenZ> Ok, i've installed network-manager but it's not detecting my network card O.o
[11:23] <Angelus> yes but when I do ls it just shows Desktop
[11:23] <Peebo> !little green men wearing frilly underwear
[11:23] <Snakesonatrain> To confirm rather the nic works or not, whenever I plug in the cable, the lights turn green.
[11:23] <compengi> is there a program from which i can call?
[11:23] <mneptok> Peebo: last warning
[11:23] <Snakesonatrain> That does mean it works right?
[11:23] <stefg> Peebo: #playground is next door, please
[11:23] <jerp> when someone is doing a chroot32 and come to the command 'mount -a' and get a reply "mount: not a directory' what is the trouble?
[11:23] <mneptok> Snakesonatrain: no
[11:24] <boldore> Angelus: yes this would be the content of your home directory
[11:24] <Snakesonatrain> So what's the process of testing the nic?
[11:24] <mneptok> jerp: PEBKAC
[11:25] <jerp> mneptok, like that's suppose to mean something to me?
[11:25] <Peebo> Sorry mn couldn't help myself. In the good old days of Unix you could type  #find god and the system would reply     #god does not exist
[11:25] <Snakesonatrain> Problem exsists between keyboard and chair.
[11:25] <frogzoo> Snakesonatrain: if you can ping yahoo, the nic works
[11:25] <kwtm> I'm trying to remember the name of a Linux arcade game I saw before; it might be a KDE game.  A number of balls bounce around in a rectangular space, and you have to keep dividing that space in half at the right instant so that all the balls are trapped in the same half of the space.  Anyone know the name of the game, so I can apt-get install it?
[11:25] <compengi> is there a program for linux from which i can make international calls?
[11:25] <Snakesonatrain> Ping gives a network unavailable command
[11:25] <Snakesonatrain> response that is
[11:25] <Peebo> or #cat tin food        and you'd get  # cat can't open tin food
[11:26] <stefg> !ekiga | compengi
[11:26] <ubotu> ekiga: H.323 and SIP compatible VOIP client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 3582 kB, installed size 12568 kB
[11:26] <snowdon> snakesonatrain: pebkac
[11:26] <Snakesonatrain> !skype compengi
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skype compengi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <mneptok> Peebo: it's still your last warning. stop playing with the bots.
[11:26] <n2diy> compengi: skype?
[11:26] <kwtm> compengi: you mean something like gnomemeeting, where the recipient also has a similar program?  Or phoning.  Oh, I see someone else has answered.
[11:26] <snowdon> www.skype.com
[11:26] <jerp> !chroot
[11:26] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[11:26] <Peebo> mneptok: Is there more than one
[11:26] <compengi> yeah
[11:26] <Snakesonatrain> Try again snowdon.. this isn't a simple prob.. this one's actually difficult to work with..
[11:26] <Pie-rate> how would i change the default application used to open all video files? how would i change the default interface used by VLC? (it always starts using wxwidgets currently)
[11:27] <kwtm> Oh, right, ekiga is the new nam,e for gnomemeeting?
[11:27] <gnomefreak> kwtm: yes
[11:27] <compengi> stefg, but fro, where i can buy an account for ekiga?
[11:27] <kwtm> Pie-rate: could help you if kubuntu; not as familiar with GNOME.
[11:27] <snowdon> Snakesonatrain: try ping 127.0.0.1
[11:28] <n2diy> ping, cool lets play.
[11:28] <Snakesonatrain> Got a repsonse by pinging the loopback snow
[11:28] <mneptok> you always will
[11:28] <mneptok> lo != eth*
[11:28] <xmOD> !mp4
[11:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:28] <n2diy> umm, what was the response?
[11:28] <bimberi> compengi: you can't.  it's free :).  you can sign up using the client or go to http://www.ekiga.net/ and click on Subscribe!
[11:29] <kwtm> No one knows the name of the bouncing balls game?  Okay.  Will look around elsewhere.  Bye, guys!
[11:29] <pogoj> Peace
[11:29] <compengi> bimberi, you mean i can make free calls to what ever country i want?
[11:29] <Snakesonatrain> mneptok: .. bash lo command not found
[11:30] <mneptok> Snakesonatrain: lo is the name of the loopback interface ;)
[11:30] <ademan> lo is a network interface not a command
[11:30] <KenSentMe> Can i use network-manager-gnome for connecting to a wireless network that uses peap and mchap?
[11:30] <Snakesonatrain> So pinging myself doesn't mean the nic is good
[11:30] <bimberi> compengi: you can make free calls to other voip users, wherever they are.  Not to landlines/mobiles though.
[11:30] <snowdon> Snakesonatrain: It means the nic works
[11:30] <frogzoo> compengi: no - voip still needs some way to connect to a phone at the other end, but you can make voice connections to other pcs
[11:30] <bimberi> *mobiles known as cellphones in many places* :)
[11:30] <snowdon> Snakesonatrain: You can't ping yahoo that means dns/firewall
[11:30] <mneptok> Snakesonatrain: you're not pinging the NIC. you're pinging lo.
[11:31] <Arafangion> What is a good portable planner to use?
[11:31] <Arafangion> (Gantt charts adn the like)
[11:31] <n2diy> Snakesonatrain: we have to make sure you can play with lo, before we play with anything else.
[11:31] <Peebo> bimberi: so it's useless. I want something to call mobile phones in Cambodia
[11:31] <snowdon> mneptok so your saying if i remove all nics i can still ping localhost?
[11:31] <frogzoo> Arafangion: there is 'planner' which is gui, but for serious proj mgt - Task Juggler
[11:31] <mneptok> snowdon: no, read again.
[11:31] <compengi> frogzoo, but i what i wanted is to make international mobile or landline calls
[11:31] <Snakesonatrain> Well, pinging the lo does work. It's about all that I can ping currently
[11:31] <Peebo> Snow..: you should be able to.
[11:32] <Pie-rate> how would i change the default application used to open all video files?
[11:32] <snowdon> mneptok: Afaik tcp/ip doesn't ping localhost if their is no nic.
[11:32] <mneptok> snowdon: if you remove all NICs you can still ping the loopback.
[11:32] <snowdon> Peebo: It would be interesting to test it out.
[11:32] <bimberi> Peebo: well there's skype(out) and there would be others
[11:32] <hoelk_> international calls to landlines is also quite cheap with skype
[11:32] <hoelk_> to mobiles not so cheap
[11:32] <mneptok> snowdon: localhost is a name, not an interface.
[11:32] <hoelk_> at least here in austria
[11:32] <snowdon> Snakesonatrain: Do the equivalent of an ipconfig /all to find out whether you can see the nick and what its ip address is.
[11:32] <Pie-rate> there MUST be a way to change the default application used to open all video files.
[11:33] <Snakesonatrain> so ifconfig
[11:33] <Peebo> bimberi: Is there skype for Linux
[11:33] <snowdon> mneptok: yes...
[11:33] <hoelk_> yes
[11:33] <snowdon> peebo: yes there is www.skype.com
[11:33] <Arafangion> frogzoo: I haven't heard of Juggler :)
[11:33] <bimberi> !skype | Peebo
[11:33] <ubotu> Peebo: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[11:33] <stefg> Pie-rate: just open yur eyes and use your iagination :-)
[11:33] <hoelk_> theres native skype, even with ubuntu package
[11:33] <hoelk_> :)
[11:33] <n2diy> Pie-rate: system-preferred-applications?
[11:33] <frogzoo> Arafangion: it's hard core
[11:33] <Snakesonatrain> ifconfig shows lo and eth0. lo has an inet address, eth0 doesn't.
[11:33] <Peebo> Kewl I'll look into that.
[11:34] <Arafangion> frogzoo: How so?
[11:34] <Pie-rate> n2diy, nope, doesn't work
[11:34] <n2diy> stefg, ?
[11:34] <snowdon> snakesonatrain: ok nic isn't installed properly or your having issues with dhcp.
[11:34] <milk777> !kdesu
[11:34] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[11:34] <Peebo> snowdon: #ifconfig    should show you everything
[11:34] <NexusL> so anyone know how to get xorg to work with a dell inspiron 6400
[11:34] <n2diy> Pie-rate: hmmm?
[11:34] <stefg> !laptop
[11:34] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[11:34] <Arafangion> frogzoo: I'm also considering GanttProject, and Planner
[11:34] <Pie-rate> stefg, i've been fucking with everything in the preferences menu and nautilus for ages. i can't find anything. How would my imagination help?
[11:35] <Snakesonatrain> Well I know the nic is in fine. It worked with my DSL connection at another place just this morning. DHCP, I need to knwo how to fix.
[11:35] <stefg> !language | Pie-rate
[11:35] <frogzoo> Arafangion: it pretty much manages your resourcing issues for you, you can set constraints on the availability of most resources, & it creates the optimal time line
[11:35] <ubotu> Pie-rate: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:35] <snowdon> pie-rate try solataire for 5 mins and then go back to it :)
[11:35] <Pie-rate> how would that help?
[11:35] <frogzoo> Arafangion: planner is a toy by comparison
[11:35] <snowdon> distraction from problem obsession mind relaxs = easier to think
[11:35] <Snakesonatrain> It isn't the ISPs DHCP or my friends computer cant use the same connection and modem and have it work. It's gotta be ubuntu... somewhere...
[11:35] <NexusL> lcor more directly anyone know how to get xorg to work with a Intel Graphics media Accellarator 950?
[11:35] <Angelus> how do you edit a file in terminal when you are not the root user?
[11:35] <Angelus> do you use vim?
[11:35] <NexusL> Angelus: sudo
[11:36] <snowdon> snake are you at home or friends?
[11:36] <frogzoo> Angelus: sudo vim FILE
[11:36] <Peebo> Pie-rate :  Common knowledge, leave it alone and come back to it later and you find the answers
[11:36] <outlaw> n2diy ah now after reboot neither connection works ... do you have any suggestion what would be best to use for connection settings + wireless
[11:36] <snowdon> snake lets dcc chat
[11:36] <Pie-rate> There HAS to be a way.
[11:36] <Angelus> beauty thank you
[11:36] <Snakesonatrain> Okay snowdon, how do we?
[11:36] <snowdon> click accept
[11:36] <mneptok> Pie-rate: you're trying to change default handlers?
[11:36] <Pie-rate> I want the answer now though, I don't want to leave it alone and i hate solitare.
[11:36] <n2diy> Pie-rate:  it gets your mind off the imediate problem, and lets it open up for other solutions. The same thing as "sleeping on it".
[11:36] <Pie-rate> yes
[11:36] <Arafangion> frogzoo: Given that we are a team of 3, I'm thinking that we probably only need GanttProject.
[11:36] <stefg> Pie-rate: there is, and it's so simple that nobody wants to put shame on you by telling it :-)
[11:36] <Arafangion> frogzoo: Planner is not a toy - that's GanttProject ;)
[11:37] <frogzoo> Arafangion: ok :)
[11:37] <mneptok> Pie-rate: find one of the files with a type you want to change
[11:37] <NexusL> ! graphics cards
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics cards - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <n2diy> Pie-rate:  we can't always get what we want.
[11:37] <snowdon> snakesonatrain #pie join it
[11:37] <jerp> when someone is doing a chroot32 and come to the command 'mount -a' and get a reply "mount: not a directory' what is the trouble?
[11:37] <Pie-rate> mneptok, no. i'm not finding a file of EVERY SINGLE VIDEO FORMAT and right clicking it.
[11:37] <mneptok> ok
[11:38] <Arafangion> frogzoo: I actually prefer planner, but planner only works on linux :(
[11:38] <Arafangion> frogzoo: 1/3 of the team doesn't run linux.
[11:38] <mneptok> then have one of the other GNOME Foundation sysadmins help you :P
[11:38] <frogzoo> Arafangion: Task Juggler - same deal
[11:38] <Arafangion> frogzoo: I'm thinking of giving that person a hard drive to install linux on ;)
[11:39] <Arafangion> frogzoo: For a birthday present ;)
[11:40] <jerp> welp I gave it a shot, I'm gonna find another distro
[11:40] <n2diy> Arafangion: It probably wouldn't work, your hardware won't match his.
[11:40] <gebruiker_> what does exit 0 mean?
[11:41] <compengi> can you check please if this link for ekiga working? https://www.diamondcard.us/exec/voip-login?act=sgn&spo=ekiga
[11:41] <frogzoo> gebruiker_: means exit, and return 0 = usually indicates success
[11:41] <Pie-rate> is there a control panel that has every file type and its default handler? i distinctly remember this on an older version of ubuntu
[11:41] <gnomefreak> compengi: the link opens fine
[11:42] <compengi> =/
[11:42] <compengi> gnomefreak, hi
[11:42] <Arafangion> n2diy: You'd be surprised.
[11:42] <compengi> gnomefreak, it says Firefox can't find the server at www.diamondcard.us.
[11:42] <Peebo> How do I tell Ubuntu which monitor to use in a dual-head system it defaults to the wrong one.
[11:42] <schultzconsult> Hi, I have a desktop computer with Ubuntu and would like to do a remote dekstop or connect to gdm from a windows xp box, any suggestions?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> works for me in firefox. (try a differnet browser maybe
[11:43] <n2diy> Arafangion: I am, but I forgot what 'm surprised at ?
[11:43] <n2diy> "m/I'm
[11:43] <Pie-rate> i'm right on the edge of saying "screw gnome" and installing kubuntu-desktop
[11:44] <compengi> gnomefreak, even www.diamondcard.us doesn't work =/
[11:44] <compengi> gnomefreak, maybe i need a us proxy?
[11:44] <outlaw> n2diy ah now after reboot neither connection works ... do you have any suggestion what would be best to use for connection settings + wireless
[11:44] <schultzconsult> no problem with reaching www.diamondcard.us from ubuntu in firefox
[11:45] <gnomefreak> compengi: i suggest filing a bug on ff and using a different browser. (or wait to see if it fixes itself)
[11:45] <n2diy> outlaw: sorry, no I don't
[11:45] <Arafangion> n2diy: Linux distros with default kernels tend to be very good at moving between different computers.
[11:45] <gnomefreak> compengi: i have no problems at all opening the link so i would try maybe copy and pasting the link or using another browser
[11:46] <bimberi> schultzconsult: you can control an existing session once you enable System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop using a vnc client on the windows box
[11:46] <Pie-rate> ahfkajhgfkjadhsfkjadsfaljdflkajdslfkjasldfklajsdfkljasd;klfj this is really annoying me.
[11:46] <compengi> gnomefreak, i will try it with socks
[11:46] <n2diy> Arafangion: cool, but what does that have to do with me, I'm answering questions, not asking them.
[11:46] <Peebo> !dual head
[11:46] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead
[11:46] <Peebo> Kewl
[11:47] <n2diy> yes
[11:47] <outlaw> does anyone else maybe know what would be best way to configure statis ip address wireless connection + wpa key
[11:48] <Arafangion> n2diy: Well, your "probably won't work" was flat out wrong :)
[11:48] <Tenen> anyone available to help me?
[11:49] <bimberi> Tenen: ask away
[11:49] <balsamic_chicken> can anyone see this
[11:49] <Pie-rate> ok i played solitare for 30 seconds, as requested. now i expect 30 answers for my pain. first question: how do i change the default handler for all video files? -OR- how do i get a list of filetypes and their default handlers?
[11:49] <compengi> gnomefreak, the same result with or without socks =/
[11:49] <n2diy> Arafangion: ? Ok, wouldn't be the first time.
[11:49] <Tenen> k thanks , ummm im a total linux newb, my issue is getting my windows drives to have root permission, i dont like typing sudo nautilus to use em
[11:49] <bimberi> balsamic_chicken: yes, it's called nickspam
[11:49] <[corn] > hello
[11:50] <Tenen> also , how do i install programs, how do i "makefile"
[11:50] <balsamic_chicken> bimberi i was just testing to see if i need to login to my nick before i can use it
[11:50] <frogzoo> Peebo: you can /msg the bot
[11:50] <gnomefreak> compengi: notice i didnt say try it with socks i said try another browser
[11:50] <frogzoo> balsamic_chicken: see what?
[11:50] <compengi> gnomefreak, yeah i know but just to make sure
[11:51] <Peebo> frogzoo: Yup found that out.
[11:51] <Tenen> so can anyone msg me and help me out?
[11:51] <balsamic_chicken> frogzoo what i was typing, i was just testing to see if i can msg the channel before i actually log in to my nickname
[11:51] <[corn] > out of interest
[11:51] <compengi> gnomefreak, i have a windows pc with IE i will try it there
[11:51] <bimberi> !compile | Tenen
[11:51] <ubotu> Tenen: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:51] <Tenen> well like i wish to compile kismet and shit like that, so i must visit that url?
[11:52] <Pie-rate> How do I get a list of filetypes and their default handler programs?
[11:52] <Pie-rate> Simple question. Should have a very simple answer.
[11:52] <Peebo> Ahhhhhhhh   IE is EVIL... EVIL I tell you......    Back, back damned spot
[11:52] <ademan> Tenen: why do you want to compile it yourself?
[11:52] <n2diy> Pie-rate: google.
[11:53] <bimberi> Tenen: kismet is available in the universe repository, also swearing isn't necessary
[11:53] <Pie-rate> n2diy: been googling, screwing with every menu i could find. NOTHING.
[11:53] <snowdon> ie 7.0 is a resource hog its like taking a beautiful car stripping its engine converting it into a carriage and then hooking a horse up to it.
[11:53] <NoEvidenZ> Hey, I've installed network-manager and it doesn't seem to detect my network card. Could anyone help me out?
[11:53] <frogzoo> bimberi: it can be highly cathartic
[11:53] <Peebo> snowdon: You just described Windoze to a tee !
[11:53] <n2diy> Pie-rate: you wanted a simple answer, here it is.google.
[11:53] <ademan> Pie-rate: i believe all that is found in Gconf
[11:53] <Tenen> well as i said im a total linux newb, i dont know how to get software to work, i want to use kismet but im used to windows and a simple .exe file to run, how do i get stuff like that to work?
[11:53] <Peebo> snowdon: A very very VERY OLD horse
[11:54] <ademan> Tenen: go to system->administration->synaptic package manager, from there you can install many many programs
[11:54] <snowdon> Peebo: One with a muscular disease
[11:54] <Tenen> my machine isnt online, my linux machine
[11:54] <bimberi> frogzoo: lol (and I had to look it up) ;)
[11:54] <ademan> Tenen: hrm, that makes it harder
[11:55] <NoEvidenZ> Anyone..?
[11:55] <ademan> but the install cd can function as a repository, i'm sure another type of cd could do so as well
[11:55] <snowdon> Tenen: Really suggest you read some books, the most you will get out of a help channel is RTFM (Read the Frakking Manual)
[11:55] <Peebo> snowdon: and blind in both eyes and suffering severe flatulence
[11:55] <NoEvidenZ> I've installed network-manager and it doesn't detect my network card.
[11:55] <Tenen> well like i wanna install kismet and some other wirless utils, and ademan your confuzzing me , im a real real real linux newb
[11:55] <VMT2007> NoEvidenZ: what card is it
[11:55] <snowdon> Peebo: Did i mention tendonitis as well?
[11:55] <snowdon> Tenen: Really suggest you read some books, the most you will get out of a help channel is RTFM (Read the Frakking Manual)
[11:55] <n2diy> snowdon: isn't that read the fine manual? :)
[11:56] <Pie-rate> n2diy, i've been asking about this for... 37 minutes now. do you think i haven't been googling as well? If you think you're better at google than me, i challenge you to find the answer.
[11:56] <NoEvidenZ> WPN311, atheros based i believe. I'm trying to get my wireless router to work with Dapper, but i'm having trouble with the encryption. (128bit WEP)
[11:56] <rioghal> n2diy, I like that one better 
[11:56] <beck> !aMSN
[11:56] <VMT2007> NoEvidenZ: but you said NetworkManager doesn't detect it at all
[11:56] <ademan> Tenen: on ubuntu software that you install is stored in packages, these packages are kept on a special server called a repository.  You can install software from repositories through system->administration->synaptic package manager, or from the command line
[11:56] <Tenen> well what books am i supposed to read, i thought ubuntu was supposed to be user friendly, guess i was wrong
[11:56] <beck> Dangit.
[11:56] <beck> !AMSN!
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about AMSN! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <beck> !aMSN
[11:56] <n2diy> Pie-rate: if we had answers, don't you think we would tell you?
[11:57] <snowdon> tenen: you can't get in a car and learn to drive it to easily without doing any reading.
[11:57] <Peebo> !microsoft
[11:57] <frogzoo> !docs | Tenen
[11:57] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[11:57] <ubotu> Tenen: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[11:57] <gnomefreak> beck: use /msg ubotu
[11:57] <snowdon> tenen: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz
[11:57] <n2diy> rioghal: TNK. :)
[11:57] <Tenen> well ademan as i said the linux machine with ubuntu on is offline, i have the .tar.gz files for these packages i extracted them, but how do i get them to install, they have "install"
[11:57] <Tenen> and "makefile" files
[11:57] <snowdon> actually don't read that bad book
[11:57] <NoEvidenZ> No, it doesn't seem to. THe network tool from System > Admin > Networking detects it, whenever I try to set it up, it works without encryption, but if I turn encryption on it doesn't work.
[11:57] <VMT2007> Tenen: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:58] <beck> I'm just trying to find out if aMSN allows current music track display.
[11:58] <snowdon> er that book isn't suitable
[11:58] <VMT2007> when that finishes
[11:58] <VMT2007> read the "INSTALL" file
[11:58] <frogzoo> Tenen: kismet installs from the repositories - don't dick about with source tar files
[11:58] <VMT2007> it's plaintext :)
[11:58] <NoEvidenZ> Someone told me to install NetworkManager and give it a shot. But NetworkManager doesn't detect it.
[11:58] <VMT2007> NoEvidenZ: go into a console
[11:58] <VMT2007> type `iwconfig`
[11:58] <ademan> Tenen: a better bet would be to get the packages off of a repository with your internet enabled computer, burn them to a cd or thumb drive or whatever, bring them over to your linux box and install.   *.tar.gz are not encouraged
[11:58] <Tenen> well when i open the insall file it runs in some notepad type editor thing, but i dont see a compile button or something like that
[11:58] <VMT2007> and see if it finds your wireless adapter
[11:58] <NoEvidenZ> it does.
[11:59] <VMT2007> weird
[11:59] <Tenen> how would i do that ademan?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> Tenen: hint read it for instructions on how to compile it
[11:59] <Tenen> read what?
[11:59] <ademan> Tenen: do which part?
[11:59] <VMT2007> Tenen: kismet? just look for a package
[11:59] <compengi> gnomefreak, same =/
[11:59] <ademan> VMT2007: his ubuntu box isn't connected to the net
[11:59] <VMT2007> oh
[11:59] <gnomefreak> compengi: i dont know it works here just fine
[11:59] <VMT2007> download the .deb and install it :)
[11:59] <Tenen> well i went to the kismet site and it downloaded some shitty .tar.gz , how the hell do i install these things, im getting fed up and am just gonna format ubuntu
[11:59] <ademan> VMT2007: yeah, my thoughts exactly
[12:00] <Tenen> its a huge waste of my time and i cant get anything to work
[12:00] <ademan> Tenen: you don't install tar.gz, you install packages...
[12:00] <zoexii> hello!  I have a crazy hardware question that needs answering...  I believe there are 2 standard voltages used within a computer, 12v and 5v no?  I am looking for an AC/DC converter that provides both thru a plug that looks similar to an S-Video plug.  Is anyone familiar with this?  Does it have a name?  I need to find one, but after much searching I find nothing...
[12:00] <ademan> i already said that
[12:00] <VMT2007> Tenen: you are not going to get answers by trolling
[12:00] <NoEvidenZ> VMT2007: whoa, hang on. `iwconfig` shows lo, eth0 and sit0. iwconfig does show my ath0 though.
[12:00] <gnomefreak> kismet is in the repos iirc
[12:00] <Tenen> im not freaking trolling, im looking for bloody help
[12:00] <ademan> packages have the extension *.deb
[12:00] <gnomefreak> !info kismet
[12:00] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2006.04.R1-1.1 (edgy), package size 964 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[12:00] <Tenen> and i dont know how to use linux
[12:00] <snowdon> tenen: you are not going to get answers by yelling your frustrations at those trying to provide some guidance.
[12:00] <VMT2007> NoEvidenZ: does it say "ath0" has "no wireless extensions"
[12:00] <gnomefreak> Tenen: sudo apt-get install kismet :)
[12:00] <Pie-rate> Can't find it in gconf.
[12:00] <ademan> gnomefreak: no internet on that box
[12:01] <ademan> Pie-rate: hold on i thought it was in there lemme check
[12:01] <Tenen> well telling me im trolling is a bit bloody harsh when i genuinly want help
[12:01] <VMT2007> Tenen: did you download 6.10 or 6.06
[12:01] <Tenen> i have 6.1
[12:01] <snowdon> Tenen: heres a start http://www.linuxhelp.net/newbies/
[12:01] <Tenen> 6.10
[12:01] <boldore> zoexil: what do you want to connect?
[12:01] <Peebo> Tenen: Ubuntu is the easiest Linux in the world to install software on, I've used Linux for 10 years I know.    #apt-get install name of package
[12:01] <VMT2007> alright
[12:01] <frogzoo> Tenen: there's a steep learning curve, and probably ubuntu's not what you need in a quick fix
[12:01] <gnomefreak> ademan: than go to packages.ubuntu.com and download it and all depends save to usb stick and poof
[12:01] <bimberi> Tenen: It will be easier if you can get the machine online.  Any chance of that?
[12:01] <NoEvidenZ> VMT2007: `iwconfig` says "bash: ath0: command not found
[12:01] <VMT2007> NoEvidenZ: err?
[12:01] <ademan> gnomefreak: i said that, but there's a huge misunderstanding going on and i'm not seeing it just yet
[12:02] <Tenen> ok where do i got to get these .deb packages and oncei  have them how do install them with the "synaptic package manager"
[12:02] <JayRoe> What does this mean: "reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address"?
[12:02] <Peebo> Tenen: Sorry jumped in in the middle didn't know the bozx is not online.
[12:02] <boldore> zoexil: you are right with standard voltages
[12:02] <VMT2007> Tenen: actually you just double click them
[12:02] <NoEvidenZ> VMT2007: it lists lo, eth0 then sit0, then says "bash: ath0: command not found" at the end
[12:02] <VMT2007> :)
[12:02] <VMT2007> oh weird
[12:02] <Tenen> so where can i find them?
[12:02] <VMT2007> Tenen: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:02] <ademan> Tenen: ubuntu.com, lemme grab you the direct link
[12:02] <n2diy> Tenen, synaptic does all that for you!
[12:02] <ademan> ah VMT2007 beat me
[12:02] <Tenen> because most things i try and downlokad are .tar.gz and i dont know what to do with those
[12:02] <Pie-rate> !kismet
[12:02] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2006.04.R1-1.1 (edgy), package size 964 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[12:02] <VMT2007> n2diy: no internet on that box
[12:02] <NoEvidenZ> n2diy: he's not on the net.
[12:02] <ademan> n2diy: he doesn't have an internet connection there
[12:02] <ademan> lol
[12:03] <snowdon> tenen .tar.gz are compressed files like .zip files.
[12:03] <Tenen> my internet connection is on a windows box
[12:03] <VMT2007> Tenen: Wireless configuration on Linux is no walk in the park
[12:03] <n2diy> Roger that :/
[12:03] <EvilMike> I just completely screwed up my keyboard shortcuts in ubuntu
[12:03] <Pie-rate> Tenen, open a terminal (Applications->Accessories->Terminal), and paste in this command: sudo apt-get install kismet
[12:03] <Tenen> yeah i know snow, but they contain "makefile" and "install" files which when i click on them just open in a text editor and i have no clue how to compile them
[12:03] <EvilMike> the configuration tool said press backspace to clear
[12:03] <ademan> Pie-rate: sorry it's gonna be a sec, i gotta install the gconf editor, dunno why i don't have it on this install
[12:03] <ademan> Tenen: you shouldn't be touching a *.tar.gz at all
[12:03] <Tenen> pierate this box is offline, would that work?
[12:03] <VMT2007> I had to compile ndiswrapper, install it, block the kernel driver, etc.
[12:03] <EvilMike> but all I did was make backspace be a shortcut. So now I cant backspace
[12:03] <JayRoe> What does this mean: "reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address", anyone?
[12:03] <EvilMike> how do I reset to defaults?
[12:03] <snowdon> tenen: it needs to be online
[12:04] <VMT2007> Tenen: additionally Ubuntu does not come with the build tools by default
[12:04] <Pie-rate> Tenen: no
[12:04] <VMT2007> it'd be best if you could simply move that machine and connect it to a router directly
[12:04] <n2diy> Tenen, download the packages, and cp th the .deb files?
[12:04] <Pie-rate> Tenen: what kind of wireless card do you have?
[12:04] <bimberi> VMT2007: they're on the CD though
[12:04] <Tenen> cp ?
[12:04] <n2diy> copy
[12:04] <VMT2007> bimberi: but the package may have an assload of dependencies
[12:05] <n2diy> probably
[12:05] <bimberi> VMT2007: I was referring to build-essential
[12:05] <ademan> Tenen: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/net/kismet   get the *.deb from there, transfer it by whatever means over to your linux box, double click it to install
[12:05] <Tenen> what was that package link again?
[12:05] <VMT2007> ademan: he's going to have fun if it has extra dependencies :P
[12:05] <Tenen> thanks
[12:05] <Tenen> does that have other popular software on the package link
[12:06] <VMT2007> Tenen: yeah but once you configure your wireless adapter you can use synaptic :P
[12:06] <JayRoe> can someone help me use my maxtor one touch in linux?
[12:06] <rioghal> I see that kismet has, as deps, ethereal-common and libpcre3
[12:06] <snowdon> jayroe: sorry its a maxtor no touch so i cannot.
[12:06] <ademan> VMT2007: yeah i was looking at the dependancies... this won't end well will it
[12:06] <rioghal> That's what synaptic says anyway
[12:07] <VMT2007> ademan: probably not
[12:07] <ademan> Pie-rate: it seems i was mistaken, the url-handlers and thumbnailers are in gconf, but not the programs they actually open with
[12:07] <JayRoe> snowdon, are maxtors particularly bad?
[12:07] <snowdon> jayroe: i was joking mate ;)
[12:07] <Pie-rate> ademan: so where can i find that?
[12:07] <Tenen> so i cant use that link ademan?
[12:07] <VMT2007> man that's why I just connected my laptop to my router
[12:07] <snowdon> jayroe: i'd say they are ok since they bought out quantum
[12:07] <VMT2007> and downloaded the necessary stuff
[12:08] <JayRoe> my bad snowdon, do you know who I should ask?
[12:08] <n2diy> ! kidding | snowdon
[12:08] <ubotu> snowdon: You may think your joke is funny, but you may confuse new users or irritate people who actually start answering your question :)
[12:08] <ademan> Tenen: no you can, but it seems kismet requires other packages
[12:08] <Tenen> snoreeee
[12:08] <Tenen> so what happens i download all those packes then what?
[12:08] <snowdon> jr: no, sorry.
[12:08] <ademan> Tenen: is it possible to just transfer your internet connection to your ubuntu box for a bit?  This would be solved with one command if you were connected
[12:08] <snowdon> cyas.
[12:08] <ademan> literally one command...
[12:08] <EvilMike> Can anyone help me with the keyboard shortcuts thing? I jusst want to set everything to the original defaults, because a bug killed my backspace and I have to be very careful typign now
[12:09] <Tenen> no :( the net connection i use isnt at home :(
[12:09] <NoEvidenZ> So does anyone here have a foolproof way of setting up a wireless network? ;)
[12:09] <EvilMike> although this is funny in a way
[12:09] <VMT2007> Tenen: err?
[12:09] <sethly> where does xine on ubuntu look for codecs? /usr/lib/win32?
[12:09] <VMT2007> NoEvidenZ: what device is it, specifically
[12:10] <NoEvidenZ> It's a Netgear WPN311, trying to connect to a Netgear WPN824 wireless router using 128bit WEP encryption
[12:10] <VMT2007> sethly: err... no
[12:10] <Peebo> jayRoe: The maxtor one touch external drives are fine until you try and mess with the one touch button then they cause all sorts of headaches even for Windoze
[12:10] <gizmo_the_great1> any1 know what 'gij-4.1' process is? It's been running for the last 15 minutes using nearly 100% CPU cycles!
[12:10] <ademan> Tenen: well after you get all of the dependancies, you'd install all of them, then the kismet package, to install a package you'd just have to double click on it and hit install.  The only problem is, some of kismet's dependancies might have more dependancies.  That's the beauty of synaptic, it handles all that for you, it downloads all of the required files and installs them all.
[12:10] <Tenen> Is my wireless card automatically installed i type iwconfig and see ath0 , which i presume is my wifi card, does that mean its working?
[12:11] <ademan> Tenen: for example if you decided to install kismet through synaptic, it would go and download all of the dependancies for kismet, install them, then install kismet, all automatically
[12:11] <Tenen> hmmm ademan
[12:11] <VMT2007> oh this is awesome, stupid mouse wheel isn't scrolling anymore
[12:11] <Tenen> maybe i need to drag my box to someones house
[12:11] <Ruri-ko> hi
[12:11] <fiandre> hi all. I can start a remote login session with kdm. therefore, the remote desktop become the MAIN window. I ask: is it possible to start this session as a separate window?
[12:11] <n2diy> Tenen: try wlan(
[12:11] <Valmarko> I'm using the open source driver for my ati graphics card. The latest release of  ATI Proprietary Linux x86 Display Driver is 8.32.5 . Should I install it?
[12:11] <n2diy> wan0
[12:12] <ademan> Tenen: literally, if you had a net connection you would have been done about an hour ago :-) and i'm pretty sure we haven't been working that long
[12:12] <NoEvidenZ> wlan0
[12:12] <JayRoe> peebo, thanks for your reply peebo, I haven't used the one touch button, I honestly don't know what it's good for as I've never used it. I haven't been able to use my maxtor in linux since I installed it couple of days ago, but the harddrive works perfectly in windows and chkdsk shows no errors.
[12:12] <Slart> Valmarko: depends on what you do with your computer and how new your ati card is
[12:12] <n2diy> crap wanl0
[12:12] <ademan> Tenen: i'll brb for a sec though
[12:12] <NoEvidenZ> n2diy: give up.
[12:12] <Michael2> Hi
[12:12] <Tenen> k
[12:12] <Slart> Valmarko: if it's new and you need 3d performance.. games and such.. sure go ahead
[12:12] <Valmarko> Ati Radeon 9550 .
[12:13] <Pie-rate> this is getting stupid, i've been trying to figure out how to do this (should be) incredibly simple task for almost an hour now. google says nothing, which i take as "go to #ubuntu", and #ubuntu says "OMG GOOGLE NOOB"
[12:13] <Peebo> jayroe: when you plug it in what happens
[12:13] <Slart> Valmarko: that qualifies as new
[12:13] <NoEvidenZ> Apparently i'm meant to have wlan0, but I don't. All I have is eth0, lo and ath0
[12:13] <Michael2> Anyone who knows how to format the whole Hard drive.  Want only to have Linux op. system on it
[12:13] <n2diy> NotEvidenZ, 10-4
[12:13] <Valmarko> Tanks
[12:13] <VMT2007> Pie-rate: what are you trying to do
[12:13] <Ruri-ko> is there a way to install all the games from a terminal?
[12:13] <Slart> Pie-rate: hehe.. what are you trying to do?
[12:13] <n2diy> NotFvidenZ, 10-4
[12:13] <Slart> Ruri-ko: sudo apt-get install nameofmygamepackage
[12:13] <NoEvidenZ> n2diy: Just type NoE and hit tab.
[12:13] <JayRoe> nothing, but "dmesg | tail" returns this: root@ubuntu:~# dmesg | tail
[12:13] <JayRoe> [12273.163808]  usbcore: registered new driver libusual
[12:13] <JayRoe> [12273.446503]  Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[12:13] <JayRoe> [12273.447433]  scsi4 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[12:13] <JayRoe> [12273.447518]  usb-storage: device found at 17
[12:13] <JayRoe> [12273.447520]  usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[12:13] <JayRoe> [12273.447532]  usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
[12:14] <JayRoe> [12273.447536]  USB Mass Storage support registered.
[12:14] <JayRoe> [12278.443243]  usb-storage: device scan complete
[12:14] <JayRoe> [12284.050066]  usb 2-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 17
[12:14] <NoEvidenZ> oh god.
[12:14] <gnomefreak> JayRoe: please dont paste in here
[12:14] <JayRoe> [12290.425268]  usb 2-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 17
[12:14] <Hobbsee> !paste
[12:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:14] <Ruri-ko> Slart: and i need to type in all of them?
[12:14] <Slart> Michael2: boot using the ubuntu live cd, use gparted to remove all partitions.. install
[12:14] <JayRoe> so gnomefreak, didn't know it had this effect. I'm a bit new to irc.
[12:14] <Michael2> I have
[12:14] <Michael2> Sorry I haven't
[12:14] <Slart> Ruri-ko: oh.. yes, I guess you'll have to.. I haven't heard of a shortcut to install *all* games
[12:14] <gnomefreak> JayRoe: use pastebin please (it says it in the topic of the channel)
[12:14] <Ruri-ko> it's really boring to  check all in synaptic thought there is a faster way
[12:14] <n2diy> NotFvidenZ, Only works if I get No working
[12:15] <Michael2> Slart. So when I run the Cd and choose install I shall select "format whole hard drive" (option 2)
[12:15] <Pie-rate> VMT2007, Slart: I'm trying to get a list of filetypes and their default handlers under gnome.
[12:15] <Peebo> jayroe: Do you get an Icon on your desktop
[12:15] <daviey> Hi, anybody here using roundcube?
[12:15] <Ruri-ko> thnx anyway
[12:15] <Peebo> !roundcube
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roundcube - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <JayRoe> peebo, no.
[12:15] <Peebo> daviey: what is it
[12:15] <Slart> Michael2: oh.. yes.. you can do that.. I haven't used that installer myself but if that's what you want it to do, sure..
[12:15] <daviey> another webmail solution
[12:16] <Slart> Pie-rate: hmm.. ehm.. tried google? ;)... because I have no idea.. sorry
[12:16] <Peebo> jayroe: does this keep repeating          [12290.425268]  usb 2-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 17
[12:16] <VMT2007> Pie-rate: wait
[12:16] <coz_> have a client that wants to disable "recent documents" edgy/gnome.. i wold like to do thids myself... have already googled with few results that make sense    andy suggestions
[12:16] <VMT2007> MIME types
[12:16] <Pie-rate> Slart: i've been googling and being told to "GOOGLE NOOB" on irc for the last hour
[12:17] <Michael2> So did you mean I can aactually do it now without re-installing, re-formating the whole lot
[12:17] <Pie-rate> (02:17:38 AM) Pie-rate: how would i change the default application used to open all video files?
[12:17] <linuxboy> will ubuntu use beryl or compiz?
[12:17] <Hobbsee> linuxboy: undecided
[12:17] <Pie-rate> it will be 3:17:38 in 3 seconds
[12:17] <gnomefreak> linuxboy: yes please join #ubuntu-xgl for help with it
[12:17] <Ruri-ko> bye
[12:17] <Michael2> (I'm just goen over to Ubuntu. Was too much hassle for a lot of money with Win.)
[12:17] <JayRoe> peebo, it seems so
[12:17] <n2diy> Pie-rate: not here, you weren't .
[12:17] <schultzconsult> It seems, that the last Firefox update is breaking firefox
[12:17] <Slart> Pie-rate: breathe in.. breathe out.. think of puppies... green grass.. computer store sales... there.. I was just kidding.. but I don't know the answer to your question =)
[12:18] <SAngeli> Hi, I have both this pc and a iMac pc on the same lan and wish to migrate some files from my ubuntu to my new iMac. How can I set my ubuntu up to do so?
[12:18] <linuxboy> gnomefreak: I just want to know which ubuntu will use
[12:18] <coz_> Pie-rate, I just got here didn't see your question, would you repeat it, maybe  (maybe) i can help ??
[12:18] <ademan> schultzconsult: no problems here
[12:18] <gnomefreak> linuxboy: by default?
[12:18] <ademan> linuxboy: i believe beryl is the winner between the two
[12:18] <Peebo> jayroe: there seems to be an issue with the Maxtor and the Ubuntu driver
[12:18] <gnomefreak> ademan: it hasnt been decided
[12:18] <ademan> but metacity will remain an option (the default GNOME wm)
[12:18] <JayRoe> peebo, is there a way to update the driver?
[12:18] <ademan> gnomefreak: last i heard beryl was winning, how bout that
[12:18] <Peebo> jayroe: do you have a usb key-disk
[12:19] <schultzconsult> adman: I just updated firefox and now my homebank does not work, it crashes firefox
[12:19] <Tenen> shit  i need to get my linux machine online :(
[12:19] <gnomefreak> Tenen: please watch your language
[12:19] <Tenen> are you serious?
[12:19] <Pie-rate> coz_: i want to change the default handlers for a bunch of filetypes (video files) without actually having a file for every single filetype to right click
[12:19] <gnomefreak> ademan: i havent heard that. as of right now compiz is more stable than beryl anyway
[12:19] <gnomefreak> Tenen: yes very
[12:19] <JayRoe> peebo kind of, I have 2 gb in my SE phone, but it requires drivers to be install, at least that's the case in windows.
[12:20] <Tenen> you guys get paid to give support?
[12:20] <coz_> Tenen, this is designated as one of the family friendly channels no swearing
[12:20] <bimberi> Tenen: no, all volunteers
[12:20] <gnomefreak> Tenen: no
[12:20] <Peebo> jayroe plug it in a see what Ubuntu does
[12:20] <Michael2> Slart: So can I run the live CD now and start it, or do I have to run it from srat up
[12:20] <Tenen> k
[12:20] <frogzoo> Tenen: some people in here get very anal about it, not sure why we have to pander to their sensitivities, but it's a given
[12:20] <JayRoe> peebo, are the numbers to the left time stamps?
[12:20] <coz_> Pie-rate, ok I am not real clear on that, if you wold expand the explanation ? :)
[12:21] <Slart> Michael2: I don't think you can format the drive while still running the system from that hard drive so you'll have to boot from the live cd, yes
[12:21] <schultzconsult> ademan: which firefox version do u use? I use 1.5.0.9
[12:21] <Pie-rate> coz_: I'd like all video files to open in VLC, and I can't find a way to do that without having a file of every single video format.
[12:21] <Pie-rate> coz_: currently some of them open in vlc and some of them open in totem.
[12:21] <Peebo> jayroe: not sure
[12:21] <VMT2007> alright
[12:21] <coz_> Pie-rate, ok so you want only vlc to open the video files right?
[12:21] <Pie-rate> coz_: yes
[12:21] <VMT2007> Pie-rate: check your mime types
[12:21] <hemantsolanki> how do i add a "universe" repository in synaptic in order to download and install vlc
[12:21] <Pie-rate> VMT2007: how?
[12:21] <bimberi> !universe | hemantsolanki
[12:21] <ubotu> hemantsolanki: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:21] <Slart> Pie-rate: hmm.. this sounds good.. I want this too... I just haven't bothered trying so far
[12:22] <VMT2007> Pie-rate: I'm going to hate to say this, but...
[12:22] <VMT2007> Google?
[12:22] <VMT2007> I don't mess with that stuff myself
[12:22] <afd_> hi guys! I
[12:22] <Tenen> so there is no way i can get an installer like in windows for packages i want?
[12:22] <VMT2007> Tenen: debian/ubuntu have superior package management to windows
[12:22] <JayRoe> peebo, that's impressive. It works right away.
[12:22] <coz_> piok that s not hard if I understadn  you,, simply right click on one of the files that wyoun vlc to open, go to the open with tab... then choose  vlc
[12:22] <Slart> Tenen: you can download the packages directly if you want.. that would be like an installer
[12:22] <Juhaz> Pie-rate, there isn't any good way to do that.
[12:23] <afd_> I'm getting a problem after a recent OS update. I use Plone as CMS which uses the Kupu visual editor. When copy pasting from Writer to Firefox, Writer crashes. Anyone else got this?
[12:23] <Michael2> Slart: Sorry to b e a bugger. Just gone over from WIn. So run the Ubuntu CD, and choose install. Then I got three options. Opt.1: The CD automaticly give me a partition suggestion. Opt2: Use the whole lot. Opt 3 : Do partitions myself.
[12:23] <Slart> Tenen: but if they are in the repositories... why?
[12:23] <coz_> Pie-rate, sorry right click on one fo the files go to the oepn with tab,, choose vlc
[12:23] <VMT2007> !justask | Michael2
[12:23] <ubotu> Michael2: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:23] <JayRoe> peebo, it keeps disconnecting the phone.
[12:23] <Michael2> Ubotu: Message received.
[12:23] <Slart> Michael2: hehe, no worries. I'd go with 2 if it's just a home system
[12:23] <Peebo> jayroe: most things do. i just ran Unbuntu live on my laptop and it picked up my bluetooth,wireless card, sound everything works. Except it defaults to the external monitor connection instead of the LCD screen :)
[12:24] <Michael2> Slart: Its a hoem system
[12:24] <Pie-rate> I'm about 5 minutes away from sudo ln -s /usr/bin/vlc /usr/bin/totem
[12:24] <coz_> Pie-rate, if I understood you correctly ,,, that will change the default application those files lpen with
[12:24] <VMT2007> Pie-rate: very bad idea
[12:24] <Slart> Michael2: then go with "format the whole lot"
[12:24] <JayRoe> peebo, how come it keeps disconnecting?
[12:24] <coz_> Pie-rate, was my sugestion not what you needed?
[12:24] <Pie-rate> coz_: yes, but i want to get them all out of the way so none of them open with totem.
[12:25] <Slart> Pie-rate: shouldn't there be some kind of file somewhere with applications and mime-types? perhaps in gconf
[12:25] <Peebo> jayroe: what keeps disconnecting
[12:25] <coz_> Pie-rate, that will do that
[12:25] <Juhaz> Pie-rate, grep 'video/' /usr/share/applications/defaults.list >> /home/juhaz/.local/share/applications/defaults.list
[12:25] <Michael2> Slart: So I won't wipe any vital information that actually make this thing work so I never get it on ever again? Like non operational system data.
[12:25] <JayRoe> peebo, the phone.
[12:25] <Juhaz> Pie-rate, open in text editor. search/replace totem with whatever is vlc's desktop file
[12:25] <coz_> Pie-rate, by changing the default player for thoses types of files only vlc will open them
[12:25] <Juhaz> Pie-rate, er, correct username into path
[12:25] <Slart> Michael2: hm.. let's do this from the beginning.. what's on your hard drive right now?
[12:26] <JayRoe> peebo, I think it finally settled.
[12:26] <Michael2> Slart: Do you want a accurate list on what it says on start up?
[12:26] <Slart> Michael2: no.. just the big picture.. do you have windows installed on this hard drive at the moment?
[12:26] <Peebo> jayroe: sorry missed that, unsure. but it worked. The maxtor drive works unda windoze you said??  yes/no
[12:27] <JayRoe> peebo, yes it does. I even booted windows 30 or so minutes ago, to run a chkdsk and it came up clean.
[12:28] <Michael2> Slart: I had Win ME, then instalkled XP (but from a New Version CD.....) Not at all happy how XP performed, so got Ubuntu. Installed Ubuntu.
[12:28] <Peebo> jayroe: I'm not sure what maxtor did with the one touches, I know the button is it's own separate USB device. But they are not "normal"
[12:29] <Michael2> Slart: So win XP still on it it says, even if I though that would be wiped away. Maybe some ME left. And I did  format C: before I installed Ubuntu
[12:29] <JayRoe> peebo, could plugging it into another usb have an effect?
[12:29] <Slart> Michael2: ok, is there anything on the hard drive you want to keep, like documents, images etc?
[12:29] <Michael2> Slart: No
[12:29] <Peebo> jayroe: it can't hurt to try
[12:30] <Slart> Michael2: ok.. then you can format the whole thing
[12:30] <Michael2> Slart: All on back-up disk.
[12:30] <Pie-rate> Juhaz: thank you. only took a <insert your offensive word of choice here>ing hour
[12:30] <xorg62> #ubuntu-fr
[12:31] <Michael2> Slart: I always said that Scandinavians where very helpful and bright. Thanks. I see you one the other side. Have a nice day.
[12:31] <coz_> JayRoe, did you fstab and see if the device is set to RO if so change it to RW
[12:31] <Slart> Michael2: good luck
[12:32] <ademan> geeze
[12:33] <ademan> oh wait, nvm i misread that
[12:33] <Peebo> coz_: RO or RW shouldn't stop it from being installed correctly
[12:33] <coz_> Peebo, sorry I thought you were having problems accessing it i apologize
[12:33] <Peebo> coz_:this keeps repeating in his syslog          [12290.425268]  usb 2-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 17
[12:34] <Peebo> coz_: no worries, any ideas on what I just pasted
[12:34] <coz_> Peebo, let me research that on hold on
[12:34] <JayRoe> coz_ I'll try in a second. I just got this "scsi: device offlined - not ready after error recovery"
[12:35] <gizmo_the_great1> Hi. Can any1 tell me what port the Ubuntu Bittorrent app uses by default? I have configured by router with Port Forwarding for Azureus on 6881 and 6882. Do I need to change that for the Ubuntu client or does that use the same port?
[12:35] <Peebo> giz..: it should use the same ports
[12:36] <coz_> Peebo, look at this link maybe be able to get  you started on the solution    http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48126
[12:36] <v0x> Yo
[12:36] <coz_> Peebo,  scroll down a bit there are some solutions suggested
[12:36] <n2diy> ! perl
[12:36] <ubotu> perl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is important. Version 5.8.8-6 (edgy), package size 3287 kB, installed size 11436 kB
[12:36] <TLE> Is there a command (Not just the shortcut) to move an application from one workspace to another ?
[12:37] <webben> TLE, Right click on the title bar of the application's window
[12:37] <JayRoe> coz_ it doesn't show up in fstab
[12:38] <webben> TLE, they'll be something like "Send to workspace" as one of the options
[12:38] <coz_> JayRoe, ok mm let me research more then
[12:38] <Pie-rate> juhaz: THANK YOU.
[12:38] <Pie-rate> n2diy: thank you for insulting my intelligence and your assistance in getting me even more pissed off at the problem, which allowed me to stay awake until 4 in the morning.
[12:38] <JayRoe> coz_ how do I past something to you?
[12:38] <Pie-rate> anyway, i'm off to try to sleep for 2 hours
[12:38] <jesus_> HOLA
[12:38] <n2diy> Pie-rate: nada.
[12:38] <webben> JayRoe, see the topic for how to paste
[12:38] <coz_> JayRoe, use pastebin.ca
[12:38] <Peebo> jatroe:   try this whith the drive plugged in          #sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd
[12:39] <coz_> JayRoe, then paste the link to that file here
[12:39] <v0x> I got some issues with openswan on ubuntu. its a net-to-net setup. The openswans are talking to each other, well, at least I get a ISAKMP SA established on each side. But when I try to send traffic (pings) I dont see any ESP packets.
[12:39] <JayRoe> coz_, webben, how do I do that?
[12:39] <TLE> webben: yeah, I know, but I need a command, it's for a script to be run at startup time. Sorry for not writing that from the beginning
[12:39] <JayRoe> webben coz_ nvm, didn't see that it was a link
[12:39] <gnomefreak> !paste | JayRoe
[12:39] <ubotu> JayRoe: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:39] <Peebo> jayroe:   try this whith the drive plugged in          #sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd
[12:39] <coz_> JayRoe, well copy the test you want to paste ... open the link to pastebin.ca...paste it in the large blamk space and hit the upload or whatever button there and it will give you a link to that file
[12:40] <coz_> text
[12:40] <n2diy> ! nada
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nada - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <coz_> JayRoe, hit the submit post button to get the link
[12:41] <JayRoe> here coz and peebo http://pastebin.ca/304517
[12:41] <coz_> JayRoe, ok let me look
[12:42] <schultzconsult> ademan: neverminde I just upgraded to firefox 2.0
[12:42] <webben> TLE, this looks like what you need: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/335
[12:42] <Peebo> jayroe:   try this whith the drive plugged in          #sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd
[12:42] <ademan> schultzconsult: ah, not on edgy?
[12:42] <JayRoe> peebo, it works :D
[12:43] <JayRoe> peebo, may I ask what that line did?
[12:43] <Peebo> I got that from the Firum coz_ pointed us at
[12:43] <coz_> JayRoe, cool
[12:43] <miosa5> miosa7@hotmail.com
[12:43] <v0x> I got some issues with openswan on ubuntu. its a net-to-net setup. The openswans are talking to each other, well, at least I get a ISAKMP SA established on each side. But when I try to send traffic (pings) I dont see any ESP packets in tcpdump.
[12:43] <v0x> Anyone?
[12:43] <coz_> Peebo, google king here :)
[12:43] <JayRoe> thanks for your help coz and peebo, I don't know what I would have done without your help.
[12:44] <v0x> (yes, i have talked to google)
[12:44] <LumaQQ> ANYONE in ASIA?  im having problems with downloading some things
[12:44] <coz_> JayRoe, no problem guy
[12:44] <cobaia> ola
[12:44] <schultzconsult> ademan: firefox 2.0.0.1
[12:44] <Peebo> it removes   ehci_hcd  and the module  ohci_hcd handles the disk automounting process:
[12:44] <Peebo> Thanx coz_
[12:44] <dune> luma, I'm in South Korea.  Does that count?
[12:45] <skiprat26> hey, anyone know why ubuntu wont let me install individual fonts.. help file said to drag font files into the fonts:/// dir using file manager the refresh cache.. but they wont drop into the folder
[12:45] <LumaQQ> dune  is south korea asia?
[12:45] <dune> :-) Yep!
[12:45] <LumaQQ> OF COURSE IT COUNTS dune  HAHAHAHA
[12:45] <chable> how do i make firestarter run at startup ?
[12:45] <dune> LOL!
[12:45] <TLE> webben: Yeah I know about devilspie, but it is tricky to set up, I just though maybe there was some command: setdesktop 3 PID    or something like that
[12:45] <JayRoe> peebo, can I add what you wrote me to sessions?
[12:45] <schultzconsult> ademan: but I don't know what there was in the update from firefox 1.5.0.8 to 1.5.0.9 that made it crash
[12:45] <coz_> JayRoe, one hint when googling for solutions,, try several ways of search criteria always starting with ubuntu... then carefully look at ech link especially in the forums site it points you to,,, often most answers to most of the problems are on the forums already... it just takes a little time to search them out :)
[12:45] <dune> LumaQQ, where r u trying to dl from
[12:46] <skiprat26> anyone
[12:46] <Peebo> jayroe:   sessions ??
[12:46] <JayRoe> coz_ heh I've been upside down for the last couple of days trying to fix it. But all threads and guides I've come across didn't help. :P
[12:46] <skiprat26> please!! im kinda desperate
[12:46] <skiprat26> hey, anyone know why ubuntu wont let me install individual fonts.. help file said to drag font files into the fonts:/// dir using file manager the refresh cache.. but they wont drop into the folder
[12:46] <JayRoe> peebo, in system --> administration
[12:47] <cobaia> ubuntu 5.10
[12:47] <hhanne> can I tell ssh to tunnel every connection made to port 80 through the tunnel to the destination address?
[12:47] <coz_> JayRoe, I know what you ean , I have ben there, I found that eventually it does turn up , but I understand especially when you need ti work now!
[12:47] <cobaia> list ubuntu 5.10
[12:47] <ademan> schultzconsult: dunno, but i'm glad it works now :-)
[12:47] <Peebo> jayroe: do U mean services
[12:48] <webmind> uhm, hello
[12:48] <cobaia> apt-get list
[12:48] <boldore> another question: I want to activate the "mouse-thumb-buttons" and in the wiki I found: None,Thumb1,Alt_L|Left
[12:48] <boldore> None,Thumb2,Alt_L|Right and I should paste it in one of "THE" config files.... does it mean the xorg.conf????
[12:48] <webmind> is it known that the latest release is rather broken ?
[12:48] <Slart> !hi | webmind
[12:48] <ubotu> webmind: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:48] <ademan> skiprat26: you probably have to open it as root (ie in a terminal sudo nautilus) then go to fonts://
[12:48] <ademan> er fonts:///
[12:48] <JayRoe> peebo, no. I mean when you log in, you can choose between "last session", "gnome", "gnome recovery" and so on.
[12:48] <schultzconsult> ademan: ype me too, it's rather irritating, when the browser does not work, when I develop for the web ;-)
[12:49] <Peebo> coz_: where would be the best place to put the fix I gave jayroe to automate it.
[12:49] <ademan> schultzconsult: that would be rather aggrivating lol
[12:49] <Peebo> jayroe: ah , no
[12:49] <bimberi> skiprat26: try using nautilus run as root ('gksudo nautilus')
[12:49] <coz_> Peebo, to automate it? mmm in all honest... and let me aplogize now... I am going on 3 hours sleep and a cup of coffee... let me think about that sorry can't get it off the top of my head
[12:50] <bimberi> argh, sorry ademan, i missed your post (*cleans glasses*)
[12:50] <JayRoe> coz_ wouldn't it be in system --> administration --> sessions?
[12:50] <Peebo> coz_: hay no worries mate
[12:50] <webmind> I'm encountering many older laptops where X has problems
[12:50] <Peebo> jayroe: I don't have that menu
[12:50] <ademan> bimberi: hehe it's ok gksudo is more fun than sudo :-)
[12:51] <coz_> JayRoe, if you want it to start up from boot time during login then yes it would be session
[12:51] <coz_> session
[12:51] <JayRoe> peebo, my bad. I meant preferences I think. Not sure, cause I have the danish version
[12:51] <coz_> darn fingers sessions
[12:51] <bimberi> ademan: nautilus seems to be ok with just sudo, i'm just a pedant ;)
[12:52] <Peebo> jayroe: Ah right yeah looks like a good place. Sorry been a linux user for 10 years but I am brand new to Ubuntu
[12:52] <SeraVitae> hm, is there a command option for installing ubuntu off a live cd without going live?
[12:52] <skiprat26> thanks bim. think i found something on the ubuntu forums as well
[12:52] <SeraVitae> for some reason it goes soooo slow (mouse cursour moves once a minute)
[12:52] <ademan> SeraVitae: unfortunately no, but the "alternate install" cd is exactly that
[12:53] <ademan> SeraVitae: but if it's that slow you might consider xubuntu, what are your system specs?
[12:53] <adaptr> webmind: what kind of problems ?
[12:53] <SeraVitae> celeron 433
[12:53] <adaptr> oh he's gone again
[12:53] <SeraVitae> runs fine with ubuntu last time
[12:53] <SeraVitae> it was just the live install that goes slow as hell.
[12:53] <TLE> webben: thanks anyway
[12:53] <SeraVitae> impossibly slow.
[12:53] <sleepy007> SeraVitae, xubuntu
[12:53] <JayRoe> peebo, have you got an nvidia card??
[12:53] <coz_> Balsamic_Chicken, hey guy did that seom file work for you
[12:53] <ademan> SeraVitae: ah, then yeah, go for the alternate install CD, definitely what you want
[12:53] <adaptr> SeraVitae: well, yes - how much RAM in that onion ?
[12:54] <SeraVitae> 192.
[12:54] <SeraVitae> i was hoping therre'd be a command line, since i have about 4 ubuntu discs here.
[12:54] <Peebo> No, ATI X700 in the laptop and some integrated thing in this box.
[12:54] <adaptr> SeraVitae: that's definitely on the low side.. my AMD64 with 2GB did it in about 10 minutes :)
[12:54] <JayRoe> peebo, you experienced with tv-out?
[12:54] <SeraVitae> that's nice
[12:54] <adaptr> SeraVitae: commandline for what ?
[12:54] <ademan> SeraVitae: the alternate install cd is text only, i promise it'll be faster :-)
[12:54] <SeraVitae> i'm not downloading another 700mb.
[12:55] <ademan> SeraVitae: :-/, you may be out of luck then
[12:55] <adaptr> SeraVitae: how come you have 4 cd's in the first place ?
[12:55] <SeraVitae> why can't i just run ubuntu in like, expert mode and pass an argument for like, -alternative or something
[12:55] <ademan> ther MIGHT be a command, but i'm unfamiliar with it
[12:55] <SeraVitae> badger, badger server, something else and dapper
[12:55] <SeraVitae> badger server is amd tho and won't boot on this other box.
[12:55] <adaptr> SeraVitae: so erm.. no actual Edgy cds ?
[12:55] <SeraVitae> Nup.
[12:55] <coz_> SeraVitae, are you installing dapper
[12:56] <hemantsolanki_> can someone tell me how i get my nvidia network card to load automatically module forcedeth
[12:56] <SeraVitae> I don't really care what i'm installing, right now nothing will install
[12:56] <adaptr> SeraVitae: in that case it might be best if you install it regardless.. you'll be wanting xubuntu for a machine with that amount of memory
[12:56] <adaptr> SeraVitae: sorry s/install/download/...:(
[12:56] <coz_> SeraVitae, well the suggestion was agreat one... I always suggest the alternate cd for easy installtion with moreoptions avaiable as well
[12:56] <SeraVitae> Okay, so why is it that there needs to be an alternative cd and a normal cd
[12:57] <SeraVitae> when the data content i would bet is 99% the same?
[12:57] <hemantsolanki> how do i load a kernel module automatically at boot
[12:57] <Slart> SeraVitae: one is a live cd.. the other one isn't.. might be more to it though
[12:57] <coz_> SeraVitae, the idea is for people to test ubuntu on theri machine fore 2 reason primaryly.. to see if they like it and to see if the hardware can h andle it
[12:57] <Peebo> Whats a quick way to find out what video driver X is using
[12:57] <JayRoe> peebo, the xorg.conf?
[12:57] <Skyrail> I'm having a few resolution problems on the login screen, in other words it just shows a black screen. I've messed around with the xorg.conf file in the past and ATi drivers, and I was wondering how can I put that whole folder (X11) back to default and get rid of the ATi drivers so I can start from scratch?
[12:58] <hemantsolanki> help please help
[12:58] <SeraVitae> coz_ - i find it silly that people that can design a whole linux infrastructure can't create an argument on bootup that lets you go between two silly scripts.
[12:58] <SeraVitae> Btw, i don't need xubuntu, because when i installed whatever i had on here before, i manually installed xfce anyways.
[12:58] <SeraVitae> Again, i see no need in downloading 700mb just to get 10mb of difference.
[12:59] <SeraVitae> there's no reason why Xu, Ku and Ubuntu couldn't be on one disk, with live and alternative/text mode install.
[12:59] <coz_> SeraVitae, well think about it this way, it is a way to test the waters with the live cd, but the alternative cd is generally for more experiend linux users who demand a few more otions redily available to them
[12:59] <adaptr> SeraVitae: well, you'll find that it's different with Ubuntu... the components are integrated to a degree I have not seen before in a Linux distro
[12:59] <fulldisclosure> Hi.
[12:59] <fulldisclosure> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.06.1/release.1/xubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[12:59] <SeraVitae> I find that hard to believe when i installed ubuntu and went 'wow this is slow' and apt-get installed xfce and modded the script and it worked straight up.
[12:59] <Peebo> jayroe: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter  <- integrated video in this box
[12:59] <fulldisclosure> Where can I download this, other site.
[12:59] <fulldisclosure> Is very slow.
[01:00] <SeraVitae> couple mb of download versus downloading a whole xubuntu iso.
[01:00] <adaptr> SeraVitae: there is a very simple reason: Ubuntu can be installed by anybody who can install Windows - it requires no more skills
[01:00] <adaptr> SeraVitae: so offering THREE distributions on one CD would be way too confusing
[01:00] <coz_> SeraVitae, adaptr is right , ubuntu is a fine but your sytem specs may have alto to do with the speed of the FULL ubuntu you may want to try edubuntu lite or ubuntulite
[01:00] <SeraVitae> Nevermind, i'm talking about a conceptual stupidity that is wasting craploads of bandwith.
[01:00] <JayRoe> peebo, do you know if it's possible to have a separate cube with beryl, if I enable the tv-out?
[01:00] <ademan> JayRoe: yeah it's configurable in the beryl-config
[01:01] <adaptr> SeraVitae: since when is bandwidth a problem in this day and age ? get with the program dude
[01:01] <SeraVitae> Forget it.
[01:01] <adaptr> SeraVitae: I can download a CD in about 20 minutes, you've almost been talking about it for that long :)
[01:01] <coz_> adaptr, alot might depend on what service he uses for internet too :)
[01:01] <SeraVitae> I'm leaving now. you guys are stupid.
[01:01] <ademan> JayRoe: but actually the cube is disabled by default for beryl, you have to go into the beryl-config panel and enable it
[01:01] <JayRoe> ademan, so it can run two separate desktops at once?
[01:01] <adaptr> coz_: yes, okay, fair nuf
[01:01] <ademan> JayRoe: yep
[01:02] <adaptr> okay, well I won't be missing him
[01:02] <hemantsolanki> how do i autoload a kernel module at boot up in edgy?
[01:02] <ademan> adaptr: why turn people away from ubuntu?
[01:02] <adaptr> !autoload | hemantsolanki
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autoload - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <adaptr> ademan: how did I do that ?
[01:02] <JayRoe> ademan, what card have you got?
[01:03] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: lol.
[01:03] <coz_> adaptr, I think everyone needs to be fair to the newer users ... they really may have no idea what is going on and may also be embarrased by that so maybe go a little more gently ??? just my opinion :)
[01:03] <ademan> adaptr: i dunno i stopped following the convo a while back, but he left insulting us, i figure someone pissed him off
[01:03] <Valmarko> 'm having problems starting a new seesion of gnome. This problem occurs after installing the latest release of the driver from ATi. I just removed the driver but the problem remains the same. I cant open a normal session of gnome
[01:03] <Skyrail> I'm having a few resolution problems on the login screen, in other words it just shows a black screen. I've messed around with the xorg.conf file in the past and ATi drivers, and I was wondering how can I put that whole folder (X11) back to default and get rid of the ATi drivers so I can start from scratch?
[01:03] <hemantsolanki> how do i autoload a kernel module called "forcedeth" automatically at boot up in edgy
[01:03] <ademan> JayRoe: geforce go 6600, haven't tried beryl on dual screens, but it specifically has an option to have separate cubes for dual screens
[01:04] <ademan> so i figure it works to some degree
[01:04] <ifu> join #ubuntu-cn
[01:04] <ifu> join /#ubuntu-cn
[01:04] <adaptr> coz_, ademan: well, I'm not sure.. I think he wanted 5-second soundbite answers, and when he didn't get them he started to complain about the *conversation*, not working towards a solution for him... I think he pissed himself off
[01:04] <ademan> Valmarko: well here's a good way to get up and running.  you can boot into the shell right?  (recovery mode) and then sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf    look in the device section for "driver" and change it to vesa
[01:05] <coz_> adaptr, yeah i got that but it appeared to me that he ws a frustrated new guy who didn't want to sound like he didn't know anything
[01:05] <cypher1_> does fglrx driver support ATI Rage ?
[01:05] <adaptr> coz_: wow.. I certainly don't read that into people's writing ;-)
[01:05] <coz_> adaptr, well I have been helping on other channels and i find that alot
[01:06] <ademan> adaptr: i dunno, i always want to spread the ubuntu luv, so i do my best to put up with disgruntled newbies, in the hopes they'll turn into helpful learned people who will speak well of it
[01:06] <coz_> adaptr, I can remember when i started and how little Iknew and understood, it was clear to many that I ws new, otheres had little patience for that
[01:06] <sleepy007> cypher1_, no
[01:06] <Valmarko> ok
[01:06] <adaptr> coz_: that may be it, then - I personally prefer people who come right out and say: hey, fsckers, I have no idea what I'm doing here, can someone help me do X ? to people who feel they need to pretend they're not totaaly clueless....
[01:06] <Peebo> jayroe: sorry mate just tucking my daughter into bed. I have no idea what a cube in beryl is mate.
[01:07] <cypher1_> sleepy007: is there any way to enable "direct rendering" on ATI Rage ?
[01:07] <coz_> adaptr, well depends on from which OS they are coming from, a windows user has a difficult time understanding the procedures of linux
[01:07] <coz_> adaptr, it is confusing for them
[01:07] <hemantsolanki> nobody knows how to autoload a module at startup in edgy? what a channel this is
[01:07] <ademan> the first distro i tried to install was debian, the community said "rtfm" and i had an acpi problem at boot, they told me it wasn't debian specific and to go somewhere else...  the ubuntu community welcomed me, and put up with me trying to use dpkg to install everything and getting all of my packages from packages.ubuntu.com, and here i am
[01:08] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: put the name of the module in /etc/modules
[01:08] <bimberi> hemantsolanki: add it to /etc/modules
[01:08] <sleepy007> cypher1_, maybe the open source ati driver its for older cards <9200
[01:08] <coz_> hemantsolanki, what module do you want to load?
[01:08] <hemantsolanki> i don't have /etc/modules.
[01:08] <hemantsolanki> coz_: it's forcedeth
[01:08] <cypher1_> sleepy007: any idea where i can get it ?
[01:08] <JayRoe> no problem peebo :)
[01:08] <ademan> i thought it was like /etc/init.d/modules or something
[01:08] <coz_> hemantsolanki, and thereis no etc/modules
[01:08] <Peebo> !beryl
[01:08] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:08] <adaptr> coz_, ademan: you're both very right.... and I agree that Debianers can be quite straightlaced at times (not to say straightedged ..)
[01:08] <hemantsolanki> coz_: how do i do that?
[01:09] <Ignite_> Do you guys mean /lib/modules?
[01:09] <Ignite_> :)
[01:09] <adaptr> coz_:  of course there is
[01:09] <ademan> i dunno, i just checked what i said and i was dead wrong...
[01:09] <Skyrail> I'm having a few resolution problems on the login screen, in other words it just shows a black screen. I've messed around with the xorg.conf file in the past and ATi drivers, and I was wondering how can I put that whole folder (X11) back to default and get rid of the ATi drivers so I can start from scratch?
[01:09] <bimberi> edgy here.  /etc/modules exists.  perhaps created by another install
[01:10] <JayRoe> skyrail do you have a backup?
[01:10] <coz_> hemantsolanki, well I would have to understadn the module you are trying to load , also going on3 hours sleep and one cup of coffe I amy lead you in the wrong direction but if anyone is paying attention here I certtainly would appreciate the help with hemantsolanki 's problem here ! :)
[01:10] <hemantsolanki> ok i did it. in /etc/modules it exists on my system
[01:10] <ademan> Skyrail: well here's a good way to get up and running.  you can boot into the shell right?  (recovery mode) and then sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf    look in the device section for "
[01:10] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: sudo "echo forcedeth >> /etc/modules"
[01:10] <ademan> driver
[01:10] <ademan> and change "ati" or whatever, back to "vesa"
[01:10] <hemantsolanki> another problem i have is that of my sound card not getting detected in ubuntu edgy
[01:11] <coz_> hemantsolanki, what is the sound card?
[01:11] <adaptr> ademan: doesn't the recovery boot option start a failsafe X session ?
[01:11] <ademan> adaptr: ugh, does it?
[01:11] <hemantsolanki> coz_: 00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 03f0 (rev a2)
[01:11] <levander> I'm watching a DVD in gxine.  How do I get into the menus that are available on the DVD itself?  E.g., the scene selection menus, etc.
[01:11] <bimberi> adaptr: no, boots to a root shell
[01:11] <adaptr> ademan: it would be logical, and nice
[01:11] <adaptr> bimberi: well that sucks
[01:11] <ademan> bimberi: oh good, i thought i was wrong again :-p
[01:11] <coz_> hemantsolanki, this is an onboard audio card right?
[01:12] <hemantsolanki> coz_: ya
[01:12] <bimberi> ademan: can't have that ;)
[01:12] <ademan> Skyrail: but yeah definitely do that stuff with your xorg.conf
[01:12] <sleepy007> cypher1_, try changing in xorg.xonf under driver from fflrgx to ati
[01:12] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: how do you know it is not detected ?
[01:12] <coz_> hemantsolanki, ok did you go to system/prefernces/multimedia systems selector?
[01:12] <hemantsolanki> coz_: let me go there
[01:12] <JayRoe> is it possible to open xorg.conf with a texteditor and still be able to save it?
[01:12] <ademan> and btw, wtf is a "failsafe X"?  Xorg is about as stable as a drunk 3 legged dog :-)
[01:12] <adaptr> JayRoe: as long as you sudo
[01:13] <cypher1_> sleepy007: i just got it.. i am reading man r128.. let me finish.. thanks
[01:13] <ademan> JayRoe: yep, just on the command line do "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:13] <coz_> hemantsolanki,  yeah go there but I think it is another place 3 hours sleep .. let me look on my system
[01:13] <adaptr> ademan: nonsense - it's been around a bit longer than you have ;-)
[01:13] <Valmarko> I'm  still having problems starting a new session. Theres a message : the last session took less then 10 seconds; /.session-errors:
[01:13] <ademan> adaptr: yeah, its the NVIDIA drivers that make it suck.  The last driver release couldn't change resolution without locking up
[01:13] <adaptr> ademan: exactly like you said - it could try to start a vesa X server at 800x600 or something, and if*that* failed, you'd still get a shell
[01:13] <coz_> hemantsolanki, also go to sound in the same menu
[01:13] <hemantsolanki> coz_: i don't have multimedia system selector
[01:13] <Valmarko> .:106: cant open /etc/profile
[01:14] <Skyrail> ademan: well I'm able to log in and everything, it just that either the login screen is all black or very distorted
[01:14] <adaptr> ademan: I've never had much problems with nvidia drivers in xorg
[01:14] <Skyrail> and it's pretty inconveiniant and annoying
[01:14] <sleepy007> cypher1_, read also man ati
[01:14] <coz_> hemantsolanki, yeah its there it is probably hidden go to system preferences menu layout
[01:14] <cypher1_> sleepy007: ok
[01:14] <Skyrail> I just want to put it all back to normal and start from scratch again, although I won't know how to get back to this resolution lol
[01:14] <ademan> Skyrail: so everything after the login is ok?
[01:15] <coz_> hemantsolanki, scroll down to preferences and make sure the check box for multimedia system selector is checked
[01:15] <hemantsolanki> coz_: i did that
[01:15] <Valmarko> Then , when I start the recovery session, it comes out a message descriing an error with daemon
[01:15] <Ignite_> Skyrail, System -> Administration -> Login Window; maybe something is amiss there. :)
[01:15] <coz_> hemantsolanki, it should now be in that menu
[01:15] <Valmarko> Anyone could help me?
[01:15] <Skyrail> ademan: yeah fine, right resolution everything, it's just the login screen, and before that i.e. the loading of everything (with the Ubuntu logo) its fine, it's just when it hits the login screen
[01:15] <hemantsolanki> coz_: i tested it says Autodetect: Could not open resource for writing in multimedia system selector
[01:15] <ademan> Valmarko: huh, unfortunately i don't know, lemme poke bimberi and gnomefreak for you
[01:16] <ProN00b> how can i run a graphical program as a different user ? gksu/gksudo -u give me a "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server"
[01:16] <Valmarko> ok
[01:16] <coz_> hemn then you may have to go to alsa site and check to see if any of the onboard sound cards are not supported
[01:17] <hemantsolanki> coz_: oh no
[01:17] <ademan> Skyrail: huh, that is strange, and you're on GNOME?  for the hell of it you might try using the kdm as opposed to gdm, though i'm fairly confident that wouldn't do squat, you never know
[01:17] <ademan> and unfortunately i'm tired and it's 4:00 am here, so i'm gonna hit the hay, sorry i couldn't be more help... :-/
[01:17] <Skyrail> ademan: I'm not really as linux as I'd like to be so I don't know if its running gdm or kdm, but I know I'm using Gnome
[01:17] <ademan> gdm is the gnome display manager
[01:17] <hemantsolanki> coz_: all i know is that it's having soundmax chip
[01:18] <coz_> hemantsolanki, there si a slight chance that is possible however you need to research your onborad sound at this site   http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/    you will see "Choose manufacturer for more details" choose the manufaturere you mentioned and look through there
[01:18] <ademan> kdm is kde's, there should be a package for it
[01:18] <mauser> I have installed Ubuntu on my Laptop and I am really happy with it, I am still having a small problem with modifying Places menu, but the rest is very fine :)
[01:18] <ademan> but yeah, sleepy time, night all
[01:18] <adaptr> Skyrail: you could try to reset the login settings to the default, or indeed, try to use kdm or xdm to login
[01:19] <Skyrail> ademan: ah ok, well I know I've edited some stuff to do with the screen settings etc. I've installed the ati drivers and that messed up a lot then I kind of fixed it, I'm not too sure what the default xorg.conf file is supposed to look like as well
[01:19] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: there are various tools you can use to see if Ubuntu/Linux recognises your soundcard
[01:19] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: and .. what are those tools?
[01:20] <coz_> hemantsolanki, red that site caregully,, if it says that it is supported then you may want to google that by typing Ubuntu at the beginning of the search string and the name of the sound card you found and see if there are solutions for that already on the forums, there probably are if it is supported
[01:20] <Ignite_> mauser, if you want to add an item to the Places menu, simply open a file manager window (Places -> Home Folder) then drag the item you wish to add into the menu on the left of the file manager. :)
[01:20] <adaptr> Skyrail: if you want to reset xorg, make a backup of the current one, and run "sudo Xorg -configure" from a console.. that will create a fresh xorg.conf file
[01:20] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: well, first I'd run "lspci"
[01:20] <adaptr>  to see if it sees a soundcard at all
[01:20] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: i did that
[01:20] <hemantsolanki> it sees a sound card
[01:20] <adaptr> what does that say ?
[01:20] <rapid_> !nvidia
[01:20] <Tenen> how do i give myself full access to all my windows drives/ partitions, i dont wish to type sudo nautilus all the time
[01:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:21] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: okay, next I'd see if Ubuntu loaded any drivers; run "lsmod | grep snd"
[01:21] <Skyrail> adaptr: ok thanks :)
[01:21] <mijita> ola
[01:22] <coz_> adaptr, thanks guy I am exhausted not thinking too clearly about details :)
[01:22] <adaptr> Skyrail: do note that it will be just as unsuited as the original one :) but at least it will be back to default
[01:22] <mijita> ola
[01:22] <adaptr> coz_: go to sleep
[01:22] <mijita> vamos a follar
[01:22] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: this is the lspci -vv information about my sound card http://pastebin.ca/304535
[01:22] <Ignite_> !es
[01:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:22] <adaptr> !es | mijita
[01:22] <ubotu> mijita: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:22] <coz_> adaptr, whish I could have several clients thi smorning ...later maybe but thanks! :)
[01:22] <adaptr> coz_: np
[01:23] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: see if there are drivers loaded
[01:23] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: ok i got this information about drivers http://pastebin.ca/304538 lsmod | grep snd
[01:23] <Skyrail> adaptr: ah ok...I'm not really sure how to fix any of the problems and I'm tempted to do a full reinstall and start from scratch...but I'll loose all my files and I haven't got anything to back up all my music, files, images etc. I would set up a file server but I'm not entirely sure how or what distro to use
[01:24] <Tenen> you woulda thought theyd make updates for ubuntu easier as mark shuttleworth is from south africa like me and internet access here costs a damn arm and a leg and is SLOW
[01:24] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: this one: saa7134_alsa is not part of the system sound support, so it would be the one loaded for your hardware
[01:25] <adaptr> Skyrail: setting up a fileserver for Linux is a breeze, and I would heartily recommend Ubuntu 6.06 server for that... no X to configure, so no problems there :)
[01:25] <Ignite_> Skyrail, have you tried changing the GDM theme in System -> Administration -> Login Window?
[01:25] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: what should i do in order to get sound ?
[01:25] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: well, first I'd get some more info on that driver, from Google or a Linux specific site
[01:26] <Skyrail> adaptr: do I have to download that seperately or do I have the choice when installing ubuntu?
[01:26] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: I've never seen that one, and I also have an nforce board - mine uses a cs8427 chipset
[01:26] <Skyrail> Ignite_: I've left that as default I think
[01:26] <adaptr> Skyrail: nope, sorry - Ubuntu Server is a whole new distro, and you really, really want Dapper for that - it wil lbe supported for many years
[01:26] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: oh i see. so i cant use sound in edgy
[01:27] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: where did you get that from ?
[01:27] <Skyrail> adaptr: how big is the download?
[01:27] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: board?
[01:27] <Ignite_> Skyrail, something may have become damaged, it might be worth playing around with. Also I do believe you can get some nice themes over at http://art.gnome.org :)
[01:27] <adaptr> Skyrail: about the same, I think - 600 megs or so ?
[01:27] <adaptr> Skyrail: but only set that up if you have a separate machine you can dedicate to it
[01:27] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: yes ?
[01:28] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: i got m2n-mx asus board here i live in india. it has nvidia chipset.
[01:28] <jfletcher> where abouts is the configuration editor utility on the ubuntu menu?
[01:28] <jfletcher> using gnome
[01:28] <jfletcher> I don't seem to have a system tools folder.
[01:29] <Ignite_> Skyrail, Ubuntu Dapper Server is 432.1MB :)
[01:30] <Peebo> how do you restart GDM from a console
[01:30] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=80975
[01:30] <jfletcher> killall -9 gdm | gdm
[01:30] <Ignite_> Peebo, /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:30] <jfletcher> or that.
[01:30] <Skyrail> Ignite_: ah ok thanks
[01:30] <Peebo> tanx
[01:30] <Ignite_> :)
[01:30] <Skyrail> adaptr: yeah I have a few seperate machines
[01:30] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: ADI AD1986A High Difinition Audio 5.1channel CODEC is what the asus site says
[01:31] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: mine is 6.1 channel
[01:31] <adaptr> Skyrail: then by all means set up a nice file/print/database/web/mail/whatever server.. you'll find that that won't need all that much resources in Linux
[01:31] <jfletcher> whats the command for configuration editor>
[01:31] <Skyrail> adaptr: ah awesome, well I'll torrent it if I can
[01:31] <jfletcher> as for some reason, ubuntu dont seem to have it on the applications menu.
[01:31] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: okay, whatever - does the chipset match ? your lspci output implies it doesn't understand the chipset....
[01:32] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: next is to search for info on a driver for that card
[01:32] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: i want to install kernel 2.6.19 in edgy can i do that? maybe that helps
[01:32] <constrictor> was i dreaming or did the deskbar applet in dapper have a wikipedia plugin?
[01:32] <constrictor> because it's not in edgy
[01:32] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: you can do that manually, yes - but I really don't recommend it until you know your way around Linux
[01:33] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: is 2.6.19 in the any of the ubuntu repo's?
[01:33] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: I think it is in feisty - but you don;t want to mess with that
[01:33] <Skyrail> I don't particularly want to reinstall Ubuntu, I've got quite a few things installed and saved :( also means I'd have to reconfigure my resolution as well
[01:33] <adaptr> Skyrail: setting your resolution is like, 10  minutes work
[01:33] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: i read in one of the forums that i need a latest kernel in order to get the sound work
[01:34] <adaptr> Skyrail: your files are a different matter - can you burn CD's or DVD's ?
[01:34] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=80394
[01:34] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: please, do yourself a favour and set a trend now - *search* first, moan later
[01:35] <Ignite_> Aww :(
[01:36] <Skyrail> adaptr: CDs but I have a lot of music in flac format :| so it amounts to around 7Gb (I can't believe I ripped it in that format) I want to set up a file server so I don't have to burn it all to discs etc
[01:36] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: i got a driver cd with my board that has linux driver some name of file is alsa-driver*.bz2
[01:36] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: a quick search reveals that drivers have existed for at least a year, so it cannot be that you *have* to use a newer kernel.. there are audio drivers not in the stock kernel that you can still use with 2.6.17
[01:36] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: they are in the sounds driver folder
[01:36] <sutabi> anyone know and good howtos for setting remote ssh on a computer
[01:37] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: yes, but you'd be better off using the real alsa module.. let me investigate some
[01:37] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: okay
[01:37] <adaptr> sutabi: what do you mean by "remote ssh" - do you mean starting a server and logging in ?
[01:37] <sutabi> yeah
[01:38] <adaptr> Skyrail: well, if you can live with MP3 instead of FLAC then just convert it first... that'll reduce it to around 700MB ;-)
[01:38] <adaptr> !ssh | sutabi
[01:38] <ubotu> sutabi: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[01:38] <can-o-worms> can someone tell me which wireless chipset just works ?
[01:38] <adaptr> !wireless | can-o-worms
[01:38] <ubotu> can-o-worms: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:39] <Skyrail> adaptr: I could live with it easily, just how to convert it without loosing all the data (artists name etc.) and what program to use...
[01:39] <finalbeta> Soon we will have the same problem with Ethernet cards. They are going the same way as wireless. :p
[01:39] <red_> i was wondering about setting up a home network with Ubuntu, I have my desktop and my laptop both running linux and a virtual machine i'd also like to connect with what do i want to set up
[01:40] <levander> red_: Eaiest way would be just to buy a router...
[01:40] <HarryR> red_, get yourself a cheap 4-5 port hub/router and some cat5
[01:40] <adaptr> Skyrail: there must be a dozen out there.. just browse synaptic
[01:40] <levander> red_: You could connect the two directly, but router would be easier.
[01:40] <red_> levander i got a wireless router
[01:41] <levander> red_: Do you want to connect either / both of the two machines to the router wirelessly?
[01:41] <levander> red_: Or, are they close enough to do it with a wire?
[01:41] <Nvening> hi
[01:41] <Ignite_> Skyrail, http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/524620/Perl-Audio-Converter.html <-= this may be of use to you.
[01:41] <red_> i have wireless setup but would like to share content between the two
[01:41] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.21.html see this?
[01:41] <levander> red_: oh, my bad
[01:42] <red_> well actually the three, sometime linux to linux sometimes winux to windows
[01:42] <levander> red_: you want to share files, printers, maybe a web server running on one of the two machines made accessible to the other, what?
[01:42] <red_> exactly levander
[01:42] <Nvening> i need to run fsck but on a mounted dive, what do i do, apparently i need to do it in the live cd???
[01:43] <levander> red_: both of these machines are linux boxes? Any windows boxes?
[01:43] <levander> red_: Or, possibly Windows in the future?
[01:43] <red_> windows in the future and i have a virtual machine with XP installed on it
[01:44] <red_> levander: im was guessing samba
[01:44] <Nvening> anyone?
[01:44] <levander> red_: for file sharing there's samba (linux implementation of Windows file & printer sharing protocols), or NFS (regular UNIX file sharing protocol)
[01:44] <Ignite_> Nvening, that's probably the safest thing to do.
[01:45] <dreamer> anybody in the channel with an edgy-server running? I need the initrd.img  mine is corrupt apperantly
[01:45] <Nvening> so do i just type fsck in terminal?
[01:45] <levander> red_: I don't know what the current name of the print server on Ubuntu is, but you can probably use it to share your printer to Windows (I think) or you can use samba to do the same
[01:46] <Skyrail> Ignite_: thanks once again :)
[01:46] <levander> red_: Reall, first you've got to decide what machine you want to serve the service from, then check what application you want to use to serve it.
[01:46] <Ignite_> Nvening, fsck <device name>; e.g. fsck /dev/hda1
[01:46] <Ignite_> Skyrail, np
[01:46] <Ignite_> :)
[01:46] <levander> red_: The thing you need to know about what machine you want to serve the service from is its operating system, then you can decide on applications to serve it.
[01:46] <Tenen> Architecture	Files	Package Size	Installed Size
[01:46] <Tenen> amd64 	[list of files]  	143.6 	380
[01:46] <Tenen> i386 	[list of files]  	136.5 	372
[01:46] <Tenen> powerpc 	[list of files]  	141 	364
[01:46] <Ignite_> dreamer, I'm assuming you're unable to boot the machine?
[01:46] <Tenen> what link do i chose? amd athlon xp
[01:47] <Nvening> kk
[01:47] <Nvening> thanks
[01:47] <Nvening> i will try
[01:47] <dreamer> Ignite_: yes I get a kernel panic, let me see
[01:47] <levander> red_: Apache or lighthttpd are the most common web server choices under Linux.  Apache or IIS I believe are the most common choices under Windows if you want a web server.
[01:47] <dreamer> Ignite_: 12:19.24 < dreamer> 10:58.16 < dreamer> I get this error on boot (since I mounted an usb-drive): [42949374.470000]  Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on un known-block(0,0)  << I'm guessing it's usb-drive related since that's all I did and didn't umount
[01:48] <red_> levander: your recommendation? my main box is linux, this machine also has the winxp virtual machine on it. my second is a laptop with just edgy on it but might also run xp on a dual boot
[01:48] <Tenen> is a dsc file usable under synaptic package manager?
[01:48] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: any progress dude?
[01:48] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: try this: "sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel"
[01:48] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: i just did that. now what i need to do
[01:48] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: what was the result ?
[01:48] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: it got loaded
[01:49] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: so - do you have sound ?
[01:49] <Tenen> Download: [dsc]  [aircrack_2.3.orig.tar.gz]  [aircrack_2.3-3.diff.gz]   - what link do i chose if i want it to self install?
[01:49] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: no
[01:49] <dreamer> Ignite_: I have the initrd backupped and tried this one: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/initrd.gz  << without success
[01:49] <levander> red_: It really just depends on what you want to do.  Since XP is just running in a virtual machine, I'd probably make Linux my server operating system (for most stuff, by default), but it depends on like if you want to get a job based on this knowledge, there are a lot more Windows jobs for that type of stuff.
[01:49] <can-o-worms> anyone here using a wireless nic?
[01:50] <red_> im a medic, its just gonna be used for my personal enjoyment. I just want to ne able to access my files on my main box with my laptop or vm
[01:51] <raynchk> hi! anyone having trouble with quicktime since upgrading to firefox 2.0?
[01:51] <Ignite_> dreamer, the only thing I could suggest is running `aptitude reinstall linux-image-server`. But of course you can't boot. You could boot into the live CD, open a terminal, mount the / partition and run `chroot <mount point>`, then aptitude etc... but that's just an idea, not a clue if it'll work.
[01:52] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: can you paste the full output of "lsmod" ?
[01:52] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: snd-intel8x0?
[01:52] <Tenen> are wireless drivers for cards automatically installed upon installation of ubuntu or do i need to go scrounge for drivers?
[01:52] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: ya
[01:52] <levander> red_: You could really do the file sharing with samba or NFS.  Ther are Windows clients for NFS, I believe Microsoft made some "Windows UNIX services" package free for download a year or two ago.  The samba way is more common to share between UNIX and Windows though.  I'd just go read about samba and NFS.  Note that I don't think NFS does printer sharing.  But, there's going to be some other protocol that's commonly used alongside NFS.
[01:52] <adaptr> Tenen: it depends.. wireless as a whole is still seriously beta in Linux
[01:52] <levander> red_: I'd start by reading about the pros and cons of samba and NFS.
[01:52] <dreamer> Ignite_: in knoppix right now
[01:53] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: here its http://pastebin.ca/304559
[01:53] <anim> my totem doesnt workbut mplayer does,could it be because of codec.what should i do
[01:53] <Tenen> well i have netgear wg 311 t , will it come with drivers?
[01:53] <levander> red_: Unless you just want something fast, then look for a samba HOWTO on wiki.ubuntu.com or related sites.
[01:53] <Skyrail> Ignite_: do i have to install Pearl for that?
[01:53] <adaptr> Tenen: almost certainly not, you usually use the drivers in the Linux kernel
[01:53] <Skyrail> *perl
[01:53] <Ignite_> Skyrail, perl is installed by default.
[01:53] <Tenen> where can i get drivers for my wifi card then
[01:54] <levander> red_: If you're not so concerned about sharing with Windows over the network, NFS is as common a default choice as samba.
[01:54] <levander> red_: I believe the general differentiation is that NFS is more stable, samba is faster.
[01:54] <Skyrail> Ignite_: ah ok
[01:54] <Ignite_> !wifi > Tenen
[01:54] <anim> my totem doesnt workbut mplayer does,could it be because of codec.what should i do
[01:54] <red_> levander: see this is where i got confused wondering which to use.  I'll read up more.
[01:54] <levander> red_: Above is the general differentiations...
[01:54] <davro> anim: use mplayer then, personally i have never got totem to play anything
[01:54] <Tenen> would ubuntu come with a set of drivers for my card or would i have to download them seperately?
[01:54] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: that's weird - were the intel8x0 drivers there before ?
[01:55] <Tenen> would ubuntu come with a set of drivers for my card or would i have to download them seperately? - netgear wg 311 t
[01:55] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: no i added them should i remove them?
[01:55] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: well, I'd not use both at the same time
[01:55] <red_> tenen: google linux compatibility
[01:55] <rosa> dsf
[01:56] <red_> levander: thank you very much
[01:56] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: i removed them. intel8x0
[01:56] <Skyrail> Ignite_: so how do I install it then?
[01:56] <Tenen> well i had another linux disto - phlak , and with that my card worked
[01:56] <levander> red_: After you set one up, you'll notice if samba crashes to much, or if NFS is just too difficult to set up under Windows.  It may be time to pick one and get your feet wet...
[01:57] <levander> red_: Coming back later if you want to change it.
[01:57] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: i will reboot now let me see if it helps. brb.
[01:57] <Ignite_> Skyrail, not a clue, I just looked it up. If there isn't an Ubuntu package there will probably be a file names INSTALL in the download. Read that and the README file if they exist, it should tell you all you need to know.
[01:57] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: okay, well - try adding the snd-hda-intel one to /etc/modules (autoload) and re-init ("sudo init 2"), as I'm not sure what all gets initialised when Ubuntu boots up
[01:57] <Tenen> i found that madwifi is compatible with my wifi card , but how do i install that?
[01:57] <adaptr> ohh you sucka
[01:57] <red_> levander: good advice, this is my last step to getting everything I had on windows with linux.
[01:58] <Skyrail> Ignite_: ok I hope so :) I just want a fresh start with ubuntu and so to save all my music files easily I'll have to convert them :S
[01:58] <pip> !ping
[01:58] <ubotu> 64 bytes from ubotu (10.13.37.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.33 ms
[01:58] <pip> !ping
[01:58] <Ignite_> Lol Skyrail, good luck. :)
[01:59] <Skyrail> Ignite_: thanks, I'll really need it
[01:59] <Tenen> http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility - shows that NETGEAR WG 311 T is compatible, where would i get drivers? and how would i install them in linux?
[01:59] <jasin> hi
[01:59] <torpor> hi all.
[01:59] <jasin> hi torpor
[02:00] <torpor> i've recently switched to ubuntu and it works great for the most part .. however i have a problem with some user accounts (ssh/shell only on this ubuntu system) where, if bash gets an error from (e.g.) a script, it instantly logs the user out/kills the ssh connection.  anyone know why this would be occurring?
[02:00] <kyhx> Tenen, n i have that same problem... i just set router to auto 108mbps instead of always 108
[02:00] <kyhx> driver doesnt support 108
[02:00] <Ignite_> Tenen, http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Ubuntu
[02:00] <Ignite_> >_<
[02:01] <jasin> madwifi has security issues
[02:01] <Tenen> ignite you got the same card?
[02:01] <Ignite_> No, I know how to use Google.
[02:01] <Ignite_> >_>
[02:01] <Tenen> kyhx have same card?
[02:01] <Tenen> heh i know how to use google, not linux tho, so im clueless there :P
[02:02] <LinTux> Is there any need to optimize or defrag your drive in Linux, if so how do you dp it?
[02:02] <Ignite_> LinTux, no need at all, GNU/Linux doesn't fragment files.
[02:02] <Ignite_> Not on ext* or ReiserFS filesystems at least.
[02:02] <jasin> on some cards its subjectable to remotely exploitable stack buffer overflows
[02:03] <LinTux> Ignite: Thanks m8
[02:03] <Ignite_> LinTux, np :)
[02:03] <Tenen> 6.10 Edgy Eft 
[02:03] <Tenen> Edgy now includes the new madwifi-ng drivers in the linux-restricted-modules package.
[02:03] <Tenen> does that mean i dont need drivers?
[02:03] <kyhx> Tenen, yeah
[02:04] <Tenen> so its supported via default?
[02:04] <kyhx> 108 isnt supported
[02:04] <Tenen> well will it run 54 by default?
[02:04] <kyhx> go into your router setting and turn it to auto 108
[02:04] <kyhx> that is what fixed my prob
[02:04] <LinTux> I have received the odd email with an infected attachment, what is the best AV just to scan and remove them with rather that pass them on and how do I install it in console?
[02:04] <Tenen> not using a router
[02:05] <HarryR> Anybody got any ideas about a direct upgrade from 5.10 to 6.10? My previous upgrade from 5.something to 5.10 was a nightmare, and I've not got any internet at home so breaking stuff isn't really an option
[02:05] <jasin> ubuntu supports 100's of different wifi cards out of the box, you should see if yours is supported:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[02:05] <Tenen> harryr i got the same problems :(
[02:05] <jasin> ubuntu supports 100's of different wifi cards out of the box, you should see if yours is supported: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[02:06] <Tenen> thanks jasin if my card is on that list i dont need to do anything?
[02:06] <HarryR> yeah half my packages broke and had to spend a few hours manually going through with apt & dpkg
[02:06] <jasin> tenen, correct, ubuntu will install it when you install ubuntu.
[02:07] <Tenen> good then its installed :)
[02:07] <Tenen> yay
[02:07] <Nvening> ji
[02:07] <Nvening> hi
[02:07] <Nvening> i need some help!
[02:07] <Skyrail> will the server installation of ubuntu automagically install a LAMP server and stuff for a file server etc?
[02:08] <Nvening> im on a live ubuntu cd and i need to stop ubuntu mounting an NTFS partitions
[02:08] <HS^> huh i ubuntu desktop only 1 cd?
[02:09] <Nvening> the trouble is gksu gedit /etc/fstab acesses the cd folder, how do i set it to acess the ubuntu partitions folder
[02:09] <adaptr> Skyrail: there is an option for LAMP
[02:09] <Nvening> what HS
[02:09] <JayRoe> How do I reinstall a module?
[02:09] <jasin> tenen, you can type: lspci -v | less
[02:09] <adaptr> Skyrail: adding a file server takes about 10 minutes
[02:10] <jasin> tenen, that will tell you what wifi card is installed
[02:10] <Skyrail> adaptr: ah ok would this be the right torrent: ubuntu-6.06.1-server-i386.iso.torrent
[02:10] <Skyrail> The PC isn't 64bit or anything
[02:10] <adaptr> JayRoe: how do you mean? modules aren't installed, they're loaded - or not
[02:10] <NoEvidenZ> Hey o
[02:10] <galois-> can anyone tell me what wifi hardware is supported on install? I only have a wifi connection
[02:10] <adaptr> Skyrail: that depends, what are the choices ? and why use torrents at all ? they're sloww compared to a fast mirror
[02:10] <momo> ! wireless | galois
[02:10] <ubotu> galois: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:10] <momo> :-D
[02:11] <NoEvidenZ> !wifi
[02:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:11] <JayRoe> adaptr, when I type "sudo modprobe -r ehci_hc" I all of a sudden get "FATAL: Module ehci_hc not found."
[02:11] <NoEvidenZ> Hmm, thought there was more there last night.
[02:11] <Nvening> I need to stop ubuntu mounting a NTFS partition. the trouble is gksu gedit /etc/fstab acesses the cd folder, how do i set it to access the ubuntu partitions etc folder???
[02:11] <pr0gress0r> hey all - I want the quickest entire system backup solution. I've had a faulty hard disk fail on me 3 times which required a full system rebuild. Now I've replaced the hard disk but want a good complete solution but not overkill like amanda. Is mirroring the best option? I have an external usb drive that I can create the same size partition if needed.
[02:11] <galois-> ubotu: thanks
[02:11] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:11] <Skyrail> adaptr: ok, I just don't want my connection cutting out or not being able to download it in time...nvm I'll download it directly, theres one without the torrent
[02:12] <galois-> momo: sorry thank you
[02:12] <Nvening> I need to stop ubuntu mounting a NTFS partition by using a live cd. the trouble is gksu gedit /etc/fstab acesses the cd folder, how do i set it to access the ubuntu partitions etc folder???
[02:12] <momo> enjoy
[02:12] <Nvening> sos, i typed it wrong before
[02:12] <NoEvidenZ> I've installed ndiswrapper, loaded my windows driver for my card, and I'd like to know how to stop my card using it's current driver and use the one NDIS loaded.
[02:12] <adaptr> JayRoe: perhaps if you tried ehci_hcd ?
[02:13] <pr0gress0r> NoEvidenZ: modprobe remove and blacklist the driver
[02:13] <JayRoe> adaptr, thanks that worked :D
[02:14] <galois-> momo: that in the base install?
[02:14] <NoEvidenZ> pr0gress0r: any chance you could give me more detail?
[02:14] <HS^> huh i ubuntu desktop only 1 cd??
[02:14] <pr0gress0r> also I did the whole ndiswrapper thing yesterday and im running edgy - I had to compile it from source - the one in the repos would not work
[02:14] <adaptr> Skyrail: your connection cutting out ? you have such a lousy ISP ?
[02:14] <HS^> i download ubuntu-6.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[02:14] <pr0gress0r> what network card you have?
[02:14] <NoEvidenZ> wpn311
[02:14] <HS^> so desktop only is one cd?
[02:14] <HS^> compared to Suse 4 cd?
[02:14] <momo> it has a list of working devices
[02:14] <LinTux> How do I downgrade the 64Bit version of Firefox to the 32 bit version withing Ubuntu 64 in order to get the Flash plugin working
[02:14] <momo> galois-: on the site
[02:15] <Skyrail> adaptr: used to, 'tis ok now, slow connection though
[02:15] <galois-> momo: reading as we speak - not yet found
[02:15] <Nvening> HS yes
[02:15] <HS^> ok
[02:15] <NoEvidenZ> pr0gress0r: I'm brand new to linux. How do I do the whole modprobe and blacklist thing?
[02:15] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: it doesn't work
[02:15] <pr0gress0r> one sec
[02:15] <Nvening> its not bloated ;)
[02:15] <galois-> momo: btw some of the howtos down't exist atm
[02:15] <NoEvidenZ> ok, thanks.
[02:16] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: no, it doesn't, you were rather too impatient... the module is not loaded
[02:16] <momo> galois-: what's your network card/ dongle?
[02:16] <HS^> Nvening is it easy to theme ubuntu and does all application go in the theme gnome/qt/openoffice? i dont like the brown style
[02:16] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: i have problem with my lan card also. it's onboard nvidia but it doesn't work i have to use realtek lan card on pci slot
[02:16] <Nvening> How do i change partition on terminal???
[02:16] <MaxRandor> how big a partition should I have to run ubuntu from?
[02:16] <galois-> momo: nm, seems it is  bad link
[02:16] <Nvening> easy to theme yep
[02:16] <adaptr> MaxRandor: about *GB
[02:16] <adaptr> MaxRandor: sorry, 8GB
[02:16] <momo> galois-: seems like pr0gress0r went through the whole thing only yesterday
[02:16] <MaxRandor> k
[02:16] <galois-> momo: ralink stick - should be no problem
[02:16] <HS^> Nvening is there a site for ubuntu theemes?
[02:16] <erdeni> what happen?
[02:16] <MaxRandor> I think I can fit that in
[02:16] <adaptr> MaxRandor: that depends on how much you intend to install, but 8GB is a good start
[02:17] <Nvening> erm, hang on
[02:17] <MaxRandor> k
[02:17] <momo> galois-: to be honest i am just a noob
[02:17] <galois-> momo: hmmm, will try and find the link that's dead
[02:17] <galois-> momo: more expert than me :)
[02:17] <Guardian> hi
[02:17] <Nvening> there is but im having a bit of a crysis right now lol
[02:17] <Guardian> i made a mistake and deleted ~/.Xauthority
[02:17] <MaxRandor> thank you and goodbye
[02:17] <pr0gress0r> NoEvidenZ: see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[02:17] <Guardian> how can i restore it please ? :(
[02:18] <NoEvidenZ> pr0gress0r: thanks.
[02:18] <galois-> momo: the good news is "Since Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) the rt2500 driver is installed out of the box"
[02:18] <pr0gress0r> np
[02:18] <galois-> woo
[02:18] <Nvening> Does anyone know how to change partition in terminal please!!
[02:18] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: well, the googles I did seemed to indicate that getting forcedeth to work is easier than the sound, but both are very possible
[02:18] <momo> galois-: there you go
[02:18] <adaptr> Nvening: define "change partition"
[02:18] <galois-> momo: thanks
[02:18] <Nvening> i need to change to the home of /dev/sda3
[02:18] <momo> galois-: You are welcome! Just keep in mind I am just a bot. ;-)
[02:18] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: forcedeth is loaded but edgy only detects realtek. why doesn't it show two lan cards in ifconfig -a
[02:19] <Nvening> just like chnage directory
[02:19] <Nvening> brb tho, phone
[02:19] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: I have no clue; what does mii-diag reveal ?
[02:19] <cooltux> exit
[02:19] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: do i need to create a udev rule or something?
[02:19] <adaptr> Nvening: what you say makes little sense.. change to the home ? huh ?
[02:20] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: it has nothing to do with that, you say forcedeth is loaded, so I assume it shows up in lsmod ?
[02:20] <cooltux> quit
[02:20] <hemantsolanki> ya
[02:20] <Guardian> i made a mistake and deleted ~/.Xauthority how can i restore it please ?
[02:20] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: http://pastebin.ca/304575
[02:20] <adaptr> Guardian: why would you need to ? just restart X
[02:21] <Guardian> adaptr: cause now Xephyr does not run anymore and i need to use it :)
[02:21] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: is that the realtek card ?
[02:21] <adaptr> !xephyr
[02:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xephyr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:21] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: ya
[02:22] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: can you paste me the full output of lsmod once more please ?
[02:22] <Guardian> Xephyr is like xnest
[02:22] <adaptr> ah...
[02:22] <Guardian> i'm using it for embedded dev
[02:22] <adaptr> so you're not really running in the root X window now ?
[02:22] <Guardian> now == irc, well it's another ocmputer :)
[02:23] <adaptr> Guardian: AFAIK Xauthority is created when you connect to an X server
[02:23] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: http://pastebin.ca/304578
[02:23] <Guardian> ok
[02:23] <Nvening> adaptr: basically im on a live cd and i need to access and file on my hard drive, the hard drive to which ubuntu is installed to
[02:24] <jasin> you can access a drive from the live cd but you'll need to mount it first
[02:24] <Nvening> ah, good point
[02:24] <Nvening> hang on
[02:24] <adaptr> Nvening: so why don't you just mount the drive somewhere ?
[02:24] <Jussi01> Hei all, anyone know where all the icons for diferent programs are kept?
[02:25] <jasin> !mount
[02:25] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:25] <adaptr> Nvening: fstab is only useful for permanent mounts - a null concept when running from a live CD
[02:25] <mikefoo_> Have a problem. We have several servers around the US, and from out west coast server to eas coast server I can't get bandwidth over 5Mbit/sec but its a 100Mbit/sec line.  What could be the reasoning behind this?
[02:26] <jasin> you can mount drives from the command line you dont need fstab to mount em
[02:26] <Jussi01> Hei all, anyone know where all the icons for diferent programs are kept?
[02:26] <nico_calais> Hi
[02:27] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: the forcedeth module isn't used by anything - and neither is the "tulip" driver I see laoded, which is like.. very old, for 10mbit cards
[02:27] <jasin> !fstab
[02:27] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[02:27] <jasin>  !DiskMounter | adaptr
[02:27] <ubotu> adaptr: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[02:28] <nico_calais> Do you know what could cause a squashfs error during the startup of ubuntu (livecd) ?
[02:28] <adaptr> jasin: whuh ?
[02:28] <jasin> !fuse
[02:28] <galois-> how can I check for a specific driver before installation?
[02:28] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:28] <jasin> adaptr, yes?
[02:29] <adaptr> jasin: what was that for ?
[02:29] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: your forcedeth driver is not the same size as mine - and mine is working flawlessly.. are you running x64 ?
[02:29] <jasin> adalter thats the howto on mounting drives
[02:29] <Jussi01> anyone know where all the icons for diferent programs are kept?
[02:29] <adaptr> jasin: okay.. thanks, I guess
[02:29] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: ya
[02:30] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: and you did not think to mention this before ? I'm sorry if this seems fatalistic, but x64 is nowhere near ready for the average user...
[02:30] <nico_calais> Does anyone know what could cause a squashfs error during the startup of ubuntu (livecd) ?
[02:30] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: install the regular 32 bit Edgy and enjoy glorious working nvidia hardware
[02:30] <K1GPL> !mbr
[02:30] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:31] <galois-> !lilo
[02:31] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[02:31] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: sorry to say but does that mean i can't expect ubuntu amd64 to work for me?
[02:31] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: even if i compile my own custom kernel?
[02:31] <jasin> To take advantage of x64 all your software and hardware must support it as well as your linux os.
[02:32] <nico_calais> Does anyone know what could cause a squashfs error during the startup of ubuntu (livecd) ?
[02:32] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: compiling your own kernel won't solve a basic incompatibility.. and 90% of all the Google results I have seen for the nforce 430 so far have been about 64 bit *not working*
[02:32] <hotti> how to install flashplugin for ubuntu amd64?
[02:32] <jasin> x64 is better supported on linux then windows or other os's.
[02:32] <adaptr> nico_calais: did you check the md5sum ?
[02:32] <Nvening> what does the mount -a command do?
[02:32] <adaptr> Nvening: mounts everything that's set to auto in fstab
[02:32] <nico_calais> adaptr : I bought the cd. it is not a cd-r
[02:33] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: you mean to say if i install x86 with 32 bit i will get sound , network support in edgy?
[02:33] <adaptr> nico_calais: so ? it can't be broken ?
[02:33] <adaptr> nico_calais: you can't *buy* Ubuntu CD's - they're free
[02:33] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: I have :)
[02:33] <nico_calais> adaptr : You can buy at a low price
[02:33] <galois-> !grub
[02:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:33] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: ok then i will now install edgy 32 bit. and try it then.
[02:33] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: and I have a very crappy ULi mainboard, that just barely supports amd64...
[02:34] <adaptr> nikin: why would you want to ? never mind, not important - what's important is that *any* CD can be defective, obviously
[02:34] <adaptr> oh, he's gone again... wha'eva
[02:35] <Nvening> i added /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 ext3 defaults 0 1 to fsdisk, and created a mount point but mount -a does not work?
[02:35] <adaptr> Nvening: the file is /etc/fsTAB, not fsdisk
[02:35] <jasin>  squashfs error's are ussaly not a result of a badly burnt live cd
[02:35] <adaptr> jasin: what, then ? memory ?
[02:36] <Nvening> yep, osrry i meant that
[02:36] <samy> hi
[02:36] <samy> iam new here
[02:36] <samy> any one have atime 2 talk with me
[02:37] <Nvening> any ideas adaptr ?
[02:37] <adaptr> samy: what about ? just ask your question
[02:37] <adaptr> !ask | samy
[02:37] <ubotu> samy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:37] <samy> ok i want to mount ubonto to see fat 32 files
[02:38] <samy> read and write
[02:38] <adaptr> Nvening: ideas about what ? did you mount it yourself ? sudo mount /dev/hda3 /media/hda3
[02:38] <jasin>  squashfs error  is an i/o error, it ussaly occurs on systems with windows pre installed or ubuntu installed onto a laptop or slave drive.
[02:38] <adaptr> samy: easy, it will autodetect that it's FAT32
[02:38] <jasin> There is several  bugs reported for  squashfs error  on launchpad
[02:38] <samy> ya but  it didn't write to it
[02:38] <adaptr> jasin: explainy ? I've never heard that before - never seen a squashfs error while sintalling eitehr, and I do run Windows
[02:39] <samy> only read
[02:39] <adaptr> samy: it will help if you explained what you have done
[02:39] <jasin> adaptr, disagree all you want but  what i said is well documented in the ubuntuforums and on launchpad.
[02:39] <adaptr> jasin: you're not reading me clear - I'm not disagreeing, I'm asking
[02:40] <space> Hi
[02:40] <samy> i have installed old ver. of ubonto maybe last year ver. and it read fat 32 section quit good but dosen't write to it
[02:40] <jasin> ada;tr, explain what? I just explained it.
[02:40] <dreamer> [42949374.470000]  Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on un known-block(0,0)
[02:40] <jasin> adaptr, explain what? I just explained it.
[02:41] <adaptr> jasin: strictly, no - you're describing symptoms - but never mind, if it fails sometimes then it does, it's just that I've never seen that
[02:41] <tmjb> why ubuntu LTS 6.06 gives me WARNING: Current functionality level = 8, recommended = 10 for clamav ? apt-get update and upgrade are the latest today
[02:41] <racarr> !bluetooth
[02:41] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:41] <samy> iam waiting
[02:41] <jasin> Squashfs (.sfs) is a free (GPL) compressed read-only file system for the Linux operating system. Squashfs compresses files, inodes and directories, and supports block sizes up to 64K for greater compression. It is implemented as a kernel module under VFS.
[02:42] <jasin> Squashfs is intended for general read-only file system use, for archival use (i.e. in cases where a .tar.gz file may be used), and in constrained block device/memory systems (e.g. embedded systems) where low overhead is needed.
[02:42] <jasin> Contents
[02:42] <adaptr> samy: for what ? please describe in some detail what your exact problem is, and how it fails to do what you expect
[02:43] <NoEvidenZ> Hey, apparently the reason it shows my card, but it doesn't work is because it has the driver, but not the firmware. Is that true?
[02:43] <samy> look i tried to delete some files from fat32 partition and i have got faliure message
[02:43] <samy> is that clear
[02:43] <adaptr> samy: not really, can you show us how it is mounted ?
[02:44] <jasin> samy, use rm -f /whatever/ whatever files
[02:44] <space> Where can I got to discuss an internet connection related problem?
[02:44] <adaptr> samy: since FAT32 does not have permissions, the access rights under Linux are set in the mount command (usually in /etc/fstab)
[02:44] <samy> adaptr i couldn't understand what you want exactly
[02:44] <jasin> !rm
[02:44] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:44] <adaptr> space: what kind of problem ?
[02:45] <space> Well , I cannot get my Laptop to connect to the internet
[02:45] <space> I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 6.10 using ethernet
[02:45] <adaptr> space: did you try shouting really hard ? :)
[02:45] <adaptr> ah :)
[02:45] <jasin> space, ussing ethernet or wifi?
[02:45] <space> It doesnt auto connect anything. Ethernet direct cable connection
[02:46] <space> Im a rookie at ubuntu too :D
[02:46] <adaptr> space: so you don't even have an IP ? how do you connect to the Internet ?
[02:46] <galois-> straight download or bittorrent?
[02:46] <space> Broadband cable modem
[02:46] <jasin> space, you trying to get on the internet with wireless or a wired connection?
[02:46] <samy> guss you have ahard drive on it fat32 section and u have installed ubuntu on it and tried to creat new text file in this fat32 sec. put you have error message that u can't write to it ?????????????????
[02:46] <space> Im using a wired cable connection, ethernet
[02:46] <adaptr> space: and you get an IP from DHCP on the modem ?
[02:47] <space> On my PC , which im on now. Running windows everythings fine.
[02:47] <adaptr> space: try "ifconfig eth0"
[02:47] <space> I will have to try this after, otherwise i will have to leabe the chanell
[02:48] <samy> i think there are no any help here '
[02:48] <jasin> space, goto system / addministration / networking .. and set up your ethernet connection, enable it if its not already.
[02:48] <adaptr> space: why>? the laptop is separate, no ?
[02:48] <space> Yes
[02:48] <knoxy> I need make 'aptitude upgrade -y' in 50 stations of my network.. how can I do to make this command for all?
[02:48] <space> Laptop is seperate. I have no router connected
[02:48] <jasin> !networking
[02:48] <space> So i have to switch the ethernet over, when i want to use the internet on there
[02:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <space> Cheers
[02:49] <jasin> that bot is stupid
[02:49] <Michael2> Does anyone know how I can install a wireless network card with  WPA-PSK encryption?
[02:49] <galois-> !windows
[02:49] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:49] <knoxy> I need make 'aptitude upgrade -y' in 50 stations of my network.. how can I do to make it for all?
[02:50] <adaptr> knoxy: you can use ssh to run that command: ssh user@host "sudo apt-get upgrade" - it will just ask you for the password twice for each host
[02:50] <adaptr> knoxy: if you have the same non-root user on each you'll only have to input the password once per host
[02:50] <jasin> space, you can check to see if your ethernet drivers are installed with the command: ifconfig eth0
[02:50] <knoxy> adaptr but how for all stations?
[02:50] <adaptr> hell I t0ld him that ages ago - no response
[02:50] <mahiyar> hi all
[02:51] <adaptr> knoxy: that would be terribly insecure, but there is a program to do that - lemme remember
[02:51] <jasin> space, If there is a driver loaded but ifconfig doesn't provide an interface then try this:  sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[02:51] <knoxy> adaptr yes! what program?
[02:51] <mahiyar> can somebody help stop my calc from crashing
[02:52] <adaptr> knoxy: can't for the life of me remeber.. :( but if you admin these systems regularly you want to set up pubkey auth anyway, and then the sequence needs no passwords at all
[02:53] <mahiyar> whenever i put a filter in my database and delete blank rows then when i try to open the filter the calc crashes
[02:53] <adaptr> knoxy: mind that you'll have to enable root logins via ssh to do so, or - better! - setup sudo to not require a password to run apt-get or aptitude, then use one "adminstration" user to do this task
[02:54] <adaptr> knoxy: even simpler - set up cron tasks to update every week or so
[02:54] <adaptr> knoxy: there is a mechanism in Ubuntu which lets you automate non-intrusive updates
[02:55] <adaptr> !unattended-upgrades
[02:55] <ubotu> unattended-upgrades: Install security upgrades automatically. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 88 kB
[02:55] <adaptr> knoxy: and then I would set up a cron job that mails me the possible updates every week
[02:56] <adaptr> knoxy: too many options, I know :) you'll get used to it
[02:56] <Michael2> Does anyone know I can install Printer and Network Card. Just moved from Win. so haven't got the basic yet
[02:58] <NoEvidenZ> ok, so the bcm43xx drivers, does it use that for everything, or only for broadcom cards?
[02:58] <adaptr> while we're here - can anybody help me with my boot problem with 2.6.17-generic on an amd64 ? it dies (stops booting) while spouting ACPI/APIC errors.. the 386 kernel works fine, and I haven't yet found any large differences in the kernel configs
[02:59] <Hattori> how to install ssh2 support?
[02:59] <adaptr> Hattori: chances are you already have it
[02:59] <Hattori> sudo apt-get install ssh2 doesn't work
[02:59] <adaptr> Hattori: the package is called openssh
[02:59] <Hattori> i'm trying to remote access to it, it says connection refused
[02:59] <adaptr> Hattori: the current protocol version *is* 2
[03:00] <adaptr> Hattori: well, is it running ?
[03:00] <adaptr> Hattori: hmm.. chicken and egg issue
[03:00] <Hattori> adaptr: dunno, how to check if it's running?
[03:00] <galois-> Hattori: is the other side accepting connections?
[03:00] <adaptr> how would you enable it remotely if it;s not ... running remotely
[03:00] <mahiyar> quit
[03:00] <localverb> Hi guys
[03:00] <localverb> I am sorry for interruption but I am asking how to install G++ compiler in ubuntu 6.10 ?
[03:01] <Hattori> i mean, i have the other pc here, running
[03:01] <adaptr> Hattori: groundwork: what kind of ssh support ? on a server or a client ? are you on the server or the client ? do you have the server working or the client, or neither ?
[03:01] <Hattori> using securecrt and wanted to access it
[03:01] <Hattori> ssh2 is set on securecrt
[03:01] <adaptr> Hattori: on the server, run netstat -ltp | grep ssh
[03:01] <Hattori> nothing listed
[03:02] <adaptr> then it's not accepting connections - try running "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start"
[03:02] <localverb> Hi
[03:02] <localverb> I am sorry for interruption but I am asking how to install G++ compiler in ubuntu 6.10 ?
[03:02] <Hattori> ssh is not there
[03:02] <adaptr> !build-essential | localverb
[03:02] <ubotu> localverb: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:02] <Hattori> adaptr: ssh is not there
[03:03] <adaptr> Hattori: then you do not have it installed
[03:03] <Hattori> sudo apt-get install openssh?
[03:03] <adaptr> Hattori: run "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[03:03] <adaptr> you already have the client
[03:03] <Michael2> Anyoen who can help me with installing a wireless network card?
[03:03] <adaptr> aargh
[03:03] <adaptr> !wireless
[03:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:03] <localverb> I am learning c++ and I want to compile my code
[03:04] <localverb> that's why
[03:04] <localverb> but I am new to linux
[03:04] <Michael2> thanks
[03:04] <Hattori> adaptr: it says the package may be obsolete.
[03:04] <adaptr> isn't there an #ubuntu-wireless ?
[03:04] <adaptr> Hattori: then run "sudo apt-get update" first
[03:04] <aeromix> hi.. I am trying to download this file via wget  http://scripts.xchat.centrum.cz/scripts/online_txt.php?nick=SexyLeon
[03:04] <adaptr> aeromix: it says "0"
[03:04] <aeromix> but I always get empty file!
[03:04] <adaptr> so yeah, that would be correct
[03:04] <Hattori> adaptr: ok thx
[03:05] <aeromix> adaptr: when I download it via wget, I get a void file, there is no zero
[03:05] <MetaMorfoziS> somebody help me, if i download something in firefox, and then click on the open link in the download window, doesn'T happens anything
[03:06] <MetaMorfoziS> i do a strace for it and it said:
[03:06] <MetaMorfoziS> access("/home/meta/Desktop/logo_plain.png", X_OK) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[03:06] <Hattori> adaptr: works, thanks
[03:06] <MetaMorfoziS> but why?:) so please help me
[03:06] <adaptr> aeromix: works for me
[03:06] <localverb> it's a mess here
[03:06] <localverb> nobody could get support properly :)
[03:06] <Nvening> MetaMorfoziS: what file are you downloading?
[03:06] <adaptr> localverb: nonsense - do you have a question ?
[03:06] <MetaMorfoziS> it's not important
[03:06] <MetaMorfoziS> any...
[03:06] <localverb> yeah
[03:07] <localverb> how to install g++ compiler on ubuntu 6.10
[03:07] <adaptr> asked and answered
[03:07] <MetaMorfoziS> but it's google's logo for example
[03:07] <adaptr> !build-essential | localverb
[03:07] <ubotu> localverb: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:07] <localverb> ok
[03:07] <localverb> thanks
[03:07] <aeromix> adaptr: how did you download that page? with firefox?
[03:07] <adaptr> aeromix: and wget
[03:07] <adaptr> both work
[03:08] <aeromix> adaptr: just wget and no paramters?
[03:08] <adaptr> yers
[03:08] <cypher1> how can i find how much video ram i have ?
[03:08] <aeromix> adaptr: when I do cat that_downloaded_page I always can't see anything
[03:08] <cypher1> device manager does not seem to show it
[03:08] <adaptr> cypher1: /var/log/xorg.0.log will have info
[03:09] <adaptr> aeromix: that's because you're not looking straight - the file has no LF at the end, so the 0 gets put at the start of your next porompt
[03:09] <adaptr> but it is there
[03:09] <aeromix> adaptr: aha... so I need to modify the file first?
[03:10] <adaptr> aeromix: I would think so.. being able to download a "0" is.... limited in functionality, I would say
[03:10] <ndlovu> I have a weird problem with a wireless card (Prism54): it used to be found on eth1, but now it tries to register itself on eth1 through eth9. Needless to say, it's also not working. anybody had similar symptoms before?
[03:10] <aeromix> adaptr: echo "\EOF">> file ? sth like that?
[03:10] <adaptr> aeromix: whatever, why don't you make things easier on yourself and put something in there that will show up easily ?
[03:11] <adaptr> aeromix: echo will normally insert a LF at the end, so you already did something non-standard to it
[03:11] <jasin> anyone know hwo to do quicktime in ubuntu?
[03:11] <aeromix> adaptr: ok, so just echo ""
[03:11] <ndlovu> I'm also getting the following error messages in dmesg: "eth2: no 'reset complete' IRQ seen - retrying", and "prism54: Your card/socket may be faulty, or IRQ line is too busy :("
[03:11] <cypher1> adaptr: thanks found it
[03:12] <adaptr> aeromix: no, of course not - how about "echo TEST > file" ?
[03:12] <aeromix> adaptr: you mean with >> ?
[03:12] <adaptr> aeromix: no
[03:13] <NoEvidenZ> Man, I'm getting really pissed off with Ubuntu. No matter what I try, I can't get my Wireless LAN to work. Either it can't be done, or anyone who can do it doesn't want to share how.
[03:13] <aeromix> adaptr: anyway, it works for me.. thank you
[03:14] <pike_> NoEvidenZ: ? at what point are you having a problem?
[03:15] <JuJuBee> What ftp server should I install on ubuntu ( i need simple)?
[03:15] <NoEvidenZ> pike_: The router won't let me in if I have encryption turned on.
[03:16] <Peres> when i want to connect to #python it says im not identified
[03:16] <Lidys> salut  tous
[03:17] <spinho> kkkkkkkk
[03:17] <Peres> JuJuBee: sudo apt-get install proftpd
[03:18] <spinho> #imbui
[03:18] <NoEvidenZ> I can connect to the router and the DHCP recognises me whenver I have encryption turned off. The second I turn on WEP, I put in the key, and it won't work.
[03:18] <sivaji_> is any know how to install wsad
[03:18] <HS^> am i assured ubuntu wont install over my windows install?
[03:19] <DarthLappy> HS^: If you install to a different partition or drive, it won't.
[03:19] <HS^> i have created one empty partition
[03:19] <HS^> but i have lot of work on windows partition
[03:19] <HS^> documents etc
[03:19] <spinho> how dumb of canal?
[03:19] <NoEvidenZ> Make sure you install on the empty partition and all is well.
[03:19] <HS^> so i need to be sure, else i come and hunt down ubuntu develoeprs
[03:19] <DarthLappy> HS^: If you're *really* concerned, you could back up your stuff.
[03:20] <HS^> ok
[03:20] <DarthLappy> HS^: But it won't overwrite Windows unless you actually tell it to.
[03:20] <HS^> does it clearly say what partition is empty and what has already windows NTFS installed on it?
[03:20] <JuJuBee> Peres : is it easy to config?
[03:21] <spinho> knows to say me as dumb of canal?
[03:21] <DarthLappy> HS^: Um, I think so.
[03:21] <NoEvidenZ> So has anyone managed to get a wireless network working on Dapper with 128bit WEP?
[03:21] <DarthLappy> NoEvidenZ: Yeap. Though I run Edgy now.
[03:22] <zak> how much do blow up sex dolls cost?
[03:22] <NoEvidenZ> DarthLappy: How did you do it?
[03:22] <ndlovu> NoEvidenZ, when you put in the key, try using "s:" in front; so if "password" is your key, try typing "s:password"
[03:22] <DarthLappy> NoEvidenZ: It just asked me at install, IIRC.
[03:22] <ndlovu> NoEvidenZ, that is of course if you're using a text key, which it sounds like you're not
[03:22] <NoEvidenZ> iirc?
[03:22] <DarthLappy> If I Remember Correctly. :)
[03:23] <NoEvidenZ> what's iirc?
[03:23] <DarthLappy> NoEvidenZ: That is.
[03:23] <NoEvidenZ> Ok..
[03:23] <DarthLappy> NoEvidenZ: Well I haven't installed Dapper for ages.
[03:23] <NoEvidenZ> Gotcha.
[03:23] <NoEvidenZ> =/
[03:24] <NoEvidenZ> I tried installing Edgy today, but it just stops at the boot screen
[03:24] <NoEvidenZ> With both the standard live CD, and the alternate.
[03:24] <ndlovu> NoEvidenZ, have you tried using iwconfig from the terminal?
[03:24] <s> i need to send .avi from ubuntu to xp, i have a switch..
[03:25] <NoEvidenZ> ndlovu: many times. I'm not sure whether I did it right though.
[03:25] <DarthLappy> s: You can use scp.
[03:25] <NoEvidenZ> ?
[03:25] <Peres> JuJuBee: sry for the delay :)
[03:25] <s> but it is too slow...
[03:25] <Peres> JuJuBee: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_FTP_Server_for_File_Transfer_service
[03:25] <NoEvidenZ> I wish it was just a little bit simpler.
[03:25] <ndlovu> NoEvidenZ, 'sudo iwconfig eth1 essid the-name-of-your-access-point key your-wep-key
[03:26] <NoEvidenZ> I've been trying to figure this out for like a whole day >.<
[03:26] <JayRoe> Can someone tell me what to do when the sound is gone?
[03:26] <ndlovu> NoEvidenZ, the above command usually does the trick for me
[03:26] <NoEvidenZ> ndlovu: On my router, I set the key by typing in a word, hit generate and it makes a hex string.
[03:26] <NoEvidenZ> So do i put in the ascii word, or the hex string?
[03:26] <dthacker> Hi, I thought I'd do some Fiesty testing for fun, so I downloaded the latest daily build of kubuntu built on 20061205.1.. The Testing howto says the current testing version is 20061025.1   Should I add my results for 20061205.1 to the testing page?
[03:27] <ndlovu> NoEvidenZ, not sure, but I think you'd need to put in the hex string
[03:28] <NoEvidenZ> that's what I've been doing. =/
[03:28] <NoEvidenZ> Oh well, i'll give it a shot.
[03:28] <tomcatt> !ubotu mouse
[03:28] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[03:28] <ndlovu> NoEvidenZ, but you could try 'sudo iwconfig eth1 essid the-name-of-your-access-point key s:the-word-you-used' which is faster
[03:30] <MasterLexx> how can i delete my licq history?
[03:31] <ndlovu> is there any way to test whether my cardbus adapter is faulty? The wireless card that was not working in one ubuntu laptop is working fine in another ubuntu laptop.
[03:32] <ndlovu> unfortunately I don't have any other pc cards to try
[03:32] <paradizelost> morning all, how difficult is it to do dual-head on an intel 945?
[03:33] <JunK-Y> whats the command again, if i want to switch of output from my 2 sound cards?
[03:34] <Kanafani> When trying to burn a dvd-image with k3b the "start"-button is inactivated.. Can anybody tell me why?
[03:34] <PedroAGontijo> Yoohoo :D
[03:35] <NoEvidenZ> ndlovu: no luck
[03:35] <dreamer> I'm still having trouble booting my edgy-server: kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on un known-block(0,0)
[03:35] <PedroAGontijo> Anyone care to tell me if I can use that cool smart partitioner with Ubuntu?
[03:35] <PedroAGontijo> I'm talking about one like that one Mandrake used to have
[03:35] <PedroAGontijo> That'll get the free space in a partition and build a new one on that
[03:36] <noiesmo> Kanafani, check settings in k3bsetup maybe you need to be part of group cdrom or burning
[03:36] <|Sora|> Is truecrypt available in ubuntu's application listings?
[03:36] <adaptr> PedroAGontijo: gparted is included in the Ubuntu installer
[03:36] <PedroAGontijo> adaptr: can it do what I said? :D
[03:37] <adaptr> PedroAGontijo: oh yes
[03:37] <PedroAGontijo> :D :D
[03:37] <Kanafani> noiesmo: it worked fine before :/
[03:37] <PedroAGontijo> adaptr: won't it damage the partition I use?
[03:37] <Kanafani> but i'll check
[03:37] <cmt^^> anyone wanna help me get tvout working with VLC?
[03:37] <adaptr> PedroAGontijo: what do you mean ?
[03:37] <noiesmo> Kanafani, did you upgrade maybe changed settings
[03:37] <noiesmo> Kanafani, np
[03:37] <oggy> hehe
[03:38] <PedroAGontijo> adaptr: will it take the free space in X partition, break it and build a separate partition with that, all tidy and clean without losing any data?
[03:38] <oggy> =)
[03:38] <ndlovu> NoEvidenZ, too bad :(
[03:38] <ekimus> hello, trying to install cacti, i set up my mysql server accordingly and use www-data as the "cactiuser"  but in the last step when installing it just seems to hang, the browser successfully makes a post request but apache just doesn't seem to answer any more. any hints?
[03:38] <oggy> hello
[03:38] <Kanafani> noiesmo: nope.. no upgrade
[03:38] <adaptr> PedroAGontijo: if it knows how to resize the partition you're talking about, yes of course
[03:38] <oggy> trying to install sound for kubuntu
[03:38] <oggy> audio
[03:38] <oggy> help
[03:38] <adaptr> PedroAGontijo: you don't "break" partitions
[03:38] <PedroAGontijo> adaptr: resize?
[03:38] <PedroAGontijo> don't you?
[03:39] <Mr> hi gents
[03:39] <adaptr> !punctuation | oggy
[03:39] <ubotu> oggy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:39] <Kanafani> can't burn as root either
[03:39] <nolimitsoya> why doesnt 'tar cpjf bkpsettings.tar.bz2 ~.*' do what i want it to, and how do i make it?
[03:39] <ndlovu> NoEvidenZ, you say that if you turn off wep, it works fine?
[03:39] <PedroAGontijo> adaptr: when will it know (or not) how to resize the partition?
[03:39] <oggy> fucking going into a channel that tells you how to type beffore you even ask a dam question how fucking gay , hows that for one line
[03:39] <adaptr> nolimitsoya: because tar always uses the current directory to tar, unless you specify a directory with -C
[03:39] <noiesmo> Kanafani, thats odd
[03:40] <adaptr> PedroAGontijo: that depends on th epartition type, as I said
[03:40] <PedroAGontijo> hm?
[03:40] <Kanafani> yes :/
[03:40] <adaptr> nolimitsoya: tar cpjf yourtarfile -C /your/dir
[03:40] <PedroAGontijo> adaptr: all my partitions were build by Windows XP
[03:40] <PedroAGontijo> built*
[03:40] <nolimitsoya> adaptr, still, when executing it within ~, it archives everything. i just want it to archive things with a leading '.', as in hidden files :)
[03:40] <adaptr> PedroAGontijo: so, NTFS then, well it worked for me
[03:40] <adaptr> nolimitsoya: then pipe the output from find into tar
[03:41] <ekimus> oggy: since noone gets paid here, and you already asked your question you'd better watch you language or else noone will even bother to help you
[03:41] <michela> ciao
[03:41] <nolimitsoya> adaptr, how do i do that?
[03:41] <PedroAGontijo> adaptr: cool :) so thumbs up?
[03:41] <oggy> bah bite me
[03:41] <adaptr> PedroAGontijo: why not just go try it first ? it will tell you quite clearly when you're about to make changes that can't be reversed
[03:42] <PedroAGontijo> adaptr: yeah, but it will be a PITA for me if I download the whole installation CD and burn it with my slow internet connection just for it not to work...
[03:42] <PedroAGontijo> but sounds positive enough, I'll try it :)
[03:42] <PedroAGontijo> adaptr: thank you!
[03:42] <adaptr> nolimitsoya: well, erm like: find -iname "\.*" | tar .. man find, man tar
[03:43] <adaptr> PedroAGontijo: you're being paranoid.. thousands of people succesfully install Ubuntu next to Windows every day
[03:43] <nolimitsoya> adaptr, thank you :) is the '|' for piping?
[03:43] <ndlovu> NoEvidenZ, in my router setup, I can choose to use ASCII or HEX mode encryption - if you have that option, try changing it?
[03:43] <adaptr> nolimitsoya: possibly tar also has an include/exclude mechanism, but I've never used it
[03:43] <PedroAGontijo> adaptr: haha, good, thank you! I'll try downloading it and later on come haunt you here again ;D
[03:43] <adaptr> nolimitsoya: obviously, yes
[03:43] <obstfliege> Moinsen!
[03:43] <abhinay> iam getting, mount: mount point 0 does not exist ,error does anybody know here, what the problem is ?
[03:43] <nolimitsoya> adaptr, thank you then, youve been most helpfull :)
[03:43] <Scrape> Anyone know of a program with which to resample MP3s and keep the tags intact? I tried using lame, but the output MP3 doesn't have the tags of the input MP3. Maybe I missed an option?
[03:44] <adaptr> nolimitsoya: don't thank me just yet - shell commands can bite you in the rear....
[03:44] <NoEvidenZ> This is so frustrating. =/
[03:45] <adaptr> especially when there is NoEvidenZ...
[03:45] <adaptr> :)
[03:45] <noiesmo> Scrape, audacity might be able not 100% sure
[03:45] <obstfliege> Can someone tell me why my firefox crashes when i try to login to my Online Banking? (javascript:checkBanking_snb();)
[03:45] <NoEvidenZ> Can someone come over to my house and fix my wifi problems?
[03:45] <adaptr> obstfliege: post your login info and we'll try to "solve" this for ya :)
[03:45] <JunK-Y> whats the command again in bash, if i want to switch of output from my 2 sound cards?
[03:46] <adaptr> JunK-Y: not a bash command, I think you mean something to do with ALSA
[03:46] <obstfliege> adaptr, yes wait ;-) no is that a javascript bug in firefox?
[03:46] <adaptr> alsactl has some options, but that's probably not it
[03:46] <adaptr> obstfliege: no idea - have you checked the bugzilla for it?
[03:46] <obstfliege> adaptr, or what do i have to install?
[03:46] <JunK-Y> adaptr: isnt alsaconfig, its something else you can run in bash, really similar to it.
[03:46] <obstfliege> no
[03:47] <adaptr> obstfliege: do you want to be able to switch on demand ? then I'd advise JACK
[03:47] <JunK-Y> cause im getting:
[03:47] <JunK-Y> ALSA lib confmisc.c:670:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card 'CA0106'
[03:47] <JunK-Y> ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such device
[03:47] <Nvening> i just tried to install my printer and it installed fine, however i have now tried to print a page and it says under status: Stopped: job-stopped - any ideas on how to fix this? Right clicking on the job and pressing resume does nothing.
[03:47] <JunK-Y> and that card isnt in my computer anymore
[03:47] <JunK-Y> even if i ran alsaconf, select the correct one, isnt working.
[03:47] <obstfliege> adaptr, switch on demand?
[03:47] <adaptr> obstfliege: sorry, was meant for JunK-Y
[03:48] <Nvening> anyone?
[03:48] <JunK-Y> obstfliege: something like that yeah.
[03:48] <Aggort> OK, I need some big help
[03:48] <adaptr> obstfliege: I'd try to 1. find or enter the bug in bugzilla, and 2. contact your online bank for any known issues - many are not firefox-ready yet
[03:48] <adaptr> (loosely transalted as "clueless microsoft whores")
[03:49] <obstfliege> adaptr, they are able...i can login on windows. but not on ubuntu
[03:49] <adaptr> obstfliege: same firefox version on both?
[03:49] <obstfliege> yes
[03:49] <NoEvidenZ> Yes, Aggort?
[03:49] <Hattori> where is the file to set samba mount?
[03:49] <Aggort> I have a disk read error issue, and can no longer boot into Windows, not even safe mode. I can't even get into system recovery, unless there is a way without a floppy, because I don't have the Automated System Recovery floppy. I can boot into CD, but that's it.
[03:49] <adaptr> I'd try to look at the javascript first, then
[03:49] <JunK-Y> adaptr: any suggestion?
[03:49] <adaptr> JunK-Y: like I said, try JACK - it has excellent multi-card support
[03:50] <adaptr> and is the future of sound uder Linux, anyway
[03:50] <Aggort> NoEvidenZ: Glad to see ya
[03:50] <MasterLexx> how can i generate more IVs with fake authentification and aireplay?
[03:50] <Hattori> where is the file to config samba mount?
[03:50] <NoEvidenZ> Aggort: Heh, yeah. I'm afraid I can't help though. =[
[03:50] <adaptr> Aggort: if you can boot from the Windows CD then you can enter rescue mode and login to your on-disk installation
[03:51] <JunK-Y>  adaptr and how do i remove the old stuff for the card i removed? it still looking always for that card.
[03:51] <adaptr> JunK-Y: what old stuff ?
[03:51] <Aggort> adaptr: Tried that, it gets to the windows installation step and locks up, everything, including the keyboard
[03:51] <NoEvidenZ> I'm gonna go try my luck with Edgy again. Is there a way to install from the live cd without booting into the live os first?
[03:51] <Aggort> I read up on it on the internet and it seems to be what happens to everyone
[03:51] <JunK-Y> adaptr: the message i posted few lines ago.
[03:51] <JayRoe> is there a shortcut to a task manager in linux?
[03:51] <adaptr> Aggort: is the disk old ? or did you try to write to NTFS ? :(
[03:52] <JunK-Y> its still looking for my ca0106 driver but i removed that card.
[03:52] <adaptr> JunK-Y: I don't know what you mean.. you were asking about switching to another sound card, and now you're talking about "removing old stuff"
[03:52] <Aggort> adaptr: It's only a year old and it was in NTFS but I tried to resize the partition using gparted
[03:52] <adaptr> JunK-Y: unless Ubuntu autodetects your hardware on startup, the modules you used to load are in /etc/modules
[03:53] <Hattori> adaptr: can you say me the file where are written the mount configs?
[03:53] <adaptr> Aggort: what does that mean ? you tried and failed ? or you tried and don't know what happened ?
[03:53] <adaptr> Hattori: /etc/fstab
[03:53] <Hattori> thx
[03:53] <JunK-Y> adaptr: the problem is that i removed my card, i ran alsaconf, select my new card, but its still looking for the old driver and when i type play blah.wav, im getting a lot of lines like:
[03:53] <JunK-Y> ALSA lib confmisc.c:670:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card 'CA0106'
[03:53] <JunK-Y> ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such device
[03:53] <ndlovu> NoEvidenZ, my understanding is that you should use the alternative cd for upgrades (rather than the live CD)
[03:53] <ph8> hi guys!
[03:54] <adaptr> JunK-Y: you're proceeding to diagnose sound problems in a rather haphazard way, I'm afraid...
[03:54] <ndlovu> NoEvidenZ, easiest though is to upgrade via the Internet
[03:54] <k010> anyone using the freenet client?
[03:54] <adaptr> JunK-Y: how many and which sound cards do you have in your system, and what do you want to do with them ? what have you tried and what has worked or failed to work so  far ?
[03:54] <Aggort> I still don't have Ubuntu installed on this hard drive and now Windows won't boot. I'm pretty sure it'd be the MBR, but I from here I don't even know how I'd get to a console for fdisk
[03:54] <ph8> How can i diagnose problems with my sound? I'm using edgy and there are occasionally periods where my sound just cuts out for about an hour - then it'll come back again as if nothing happened, any ideas how to figure out what'ss going on?
[03:54] <Aggort> if I could get to fdisk I'd just reformat this drive
[03:55] <Hattori> adaptr: how to reload /etc/fstab without rebooting?
[03:55] <k010> Aggort, use a lived
[03:55] <JayRoe> something is hogging my system, making it run very slow. Can someone tell me how open a process list?
[03:55] <JunK-Y> adaptr: i just dont remember the command to manage the sound card i used for always.
[03:55] <ph8> Hattori: mount -a
[03:55] <Hattori> k
[03:55] <Aggort> k010: Which One?
[03:55] <ph8> you'd have to unmount any filesystems you want to change first though
[03:55] <JunK-Y> id like to use the build-in card now, the snd_97
[03:55] <adaptr> Hattori: fstab is never "loaded", it determines what partitions the system knows how to mount without more information from you
[03:55] <Peebo> jayroe: #top
[03:55] <k010> Aggort, im sure 6.06 will beb fine if u have it
[03:55] <ph8> JayRoe: Open a terminal and run the 'top' command - it will display a list of all the processes on your system ranked by CPU usage
[03:55] <adaptr> JunK-Y: well, sorry, but I don't think I remember what you forgot either...
[03:56] <feryana> Hi! I would like to know if there is any software to burn any amount of files (45 gigs) into an unique ISO file. Thanks
[03:56] <Aggort> k010: I'm using Ubuntu now! I mean for windows
[03:56] <Aggort> I'm a gamer I need Windows lol
[03:56] <scoates> hi. Yesterday, I did this: http://tvease.net/wiki/index.php?title=Tweak_ubuntu_for_speed -- today, my machine hangs on boot (I removed the swapiness thing, and changed fstab back) ... is there any way to undo the tune2fs change via disk/files (I'm in Windows now )-: )
[03:56] <JunK-Y> the 0106 was working fine, i just need to tell my system, now i dont want to use my 0106 anymore and go with snd_97
[03:56] <feryana> the iso file will be in an external hard drive
[03:56] <adaptr> Aggort: then run a disk check from there
[03:56] <k010> Aggort, i have heard there is a livecd version for windows but i never used it
[03:57] <Hattori> what's the package to install that handle smbfs mount type?
[03:57] <k010> Aggort, im pretty sure it was for a usb stick, alittle faster
[03:57] <ramoonas> hello all, is it possible to remove flash player plugin from firefox?
[03:57] <Aggort> adaptr: I can check the disk, but can I reformat it from here?
[03:57] <ramoonas> because it crashes with it
[03:57] <adaptr> Hattori: it's called "the kernel"
[03:57] <adaptr> Aggort: of course
[03:57] <ph8> How can i diagnose problems with my sound? I'm using edgy and there are occasionally periods where my sound just cuts out for about an hour - then it'll come back again as if nothing happened, any ideas how to figure out what'ss going on?
[03:57] <scoates> in other words: how can I undo a tune2fs change without actually executing tune2fs?
[03:57] <fredl> hi guys, how can I make Apache go to one of my vhosts if it lands up in the default host?
[03:57] <adaptr> ramoonas: the plugin is either in firefox's install dir or in your home dir (firefox profile)
[03:57] <Hattori> adaptr: i remember that i have to install samba to handle smbfs.. wasn't it?
[03:57] <Aggort> If I could I;d like to just erase the hard drive alltogether and do a fresh Windows install
[03:57] <ph8> scoates: well, what does tune2fs do?
[03:57] <adaptr> ramoonas: just close firefox, remove it, done
[03:57] <adaptr> Hattori: nope
[03:57] <ramoonas> ok ill try
[03:58] <ph8> Hattori: I think there's an smbfs package..
[03:58] <ph8> i'm not entirely sure though
[03:58] <LameBMX> quick and easy pringer sharing .. printer -> ubuntu->vmware->xppro ????
[03:58] <fredl> I added a Redirect / http://www.3dn.nl in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default but it doesn't seem to work
[03:58] <adaptr> !smbfs
[03:58] <ubotu> smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 375 kB, installed size 900 kB
[03:58] <k010> Aggort, the only problem installing widnows after linux is that it ova writes the mbr
[03:58] <Fireal> OK guys and gals, got an easy one...What is the command to see what group(s) a user is a member of? (as in file permissions & etc.)
[03:58] <adaptr> okay, well, then, yes
[03:58] <JayRoe> peebo, ph8, what is "listen"? It's hogging my system
[03:58] <adaptr> k010: that's *not* the only problem....
[03:58] <Aggort> k010: I don't have Ubuntu installed
[03:58] <scoates> ph8: it instructs the kernel how to behave wrt your filesystem. I want to know what it actually does (what config giles it changes)
[03:58] <Aggort> adaptr: If I could I'd like to just erase the hard drive all together and do a fresh Windows install is that possible?
[03:58] <ph8> JayRoe: I have no idea, try running 'man listen' from the console and see if that reveals anything useful
[03:59] <adaptr> Aggort: of course
[03:59] <Hattori> adaptr: smbfs: mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported
[03:59] <k010> Aggort, so u have a livecd?
[03:59] <outlaw> does anyone else maybe know what would be best way to configure statis ip address wireless connection + wpa key
[03:59] <Aggort> k010: I am using it now!
[03:59] <ph8> you'd have to know what parameters tune2fs was called with, presumably
[03:59] <JayRoe> ph8, it's a music player it seems. How can I kill it? I can't interact with it.
[03:59] <ph8> but i'm not sure how you'd find the default values
[03:59] <scoates> s/giles/files/
[03:59] <LameBMX> outlaw, does the wireless work?
[03:59] <k010> Aggort, is  thats what u want to install windows why not boot using the windows d
[03:59] <Aggort> adaptr: Do you think it;d be possible to fix this mess through Ubuntu, maybe fix the MBR?
[03:59] <Hattori> adaptr: with same settings it works on the other linux ubuntu pc
[03:59] <adaptr> scoates: tune2fs does not use configuration files
[03:59] <ramoonas> adaptr: thanks, it helped
[04:00] <ph8> JayRoe: If you're sure you don't want it there note it's PID (Process ID) in top or in another form of process list - ('ps aux' command) then try kill <pid here> e.g. kill 1353
[04:00] <feryana> Hi! I would like to know if there is any software to burn any amount of files (45 gigs) into an unique ISO file. Thanks
[04:00] <feryana> the iso file will be in an external hard drive
[04:00] <richard__> anybody know how to put a range inside an if clause in a bash script? i.e if [ $GROUP = s[0-9]  ]  , the symbols "[] " give me an error
[04:00] <Aggort> k010: Locks Up
[04:00] <fredl> hi guys, how can I make Apache go to one of my vhosts if it lands up in the default host?
[04:00] <adaptr> scoates: rather, it changes attributes of the filesystem directly
[04:00] <scoates> ph8: well, I did: tune2fs -o journal_data_writeback /dev/hda4    -- I want to undo that
[04:00] <ph8> if it's still running about 30 seconds after you've tried a kill, do a forced kill, kill -9 <pid>
[04:00] <scoates> adaptr: so, am I just plain screwed, then?
[04:00] <adaptr> Aggort: that depend son how deep the mess is; there is little you can "fix " on windows from Ubuntu
[04:00] <adaptr> scoates: that depends.. what did you change ?
[04:00] <ph8> fredl: Have you checked the docs @ httpd.apache.org?
[04:01] <k010> Aggort,  i had the same problem before
[04:01] <scoates> adaptr: tune2fs -o journal_data_writeback /dev/hda4
[04:01] <JayRoe> thanks ph8, that fixed it
[04:01] <scoates> I'm not sure that's it, but I want to undo it to eliminate it
[04:01] <ph8> no probs :) If it's a one-off you'll be ok, if it keeps coming back let us know in here and we'll have a poke around
[04:01] <Aggort> adaptr: true... ok in that case how do I jsut reformat this hard drive, so it's like new through Ubuntu
[04:01] <Fireal> feryana: I think k3b might do the trick, lemme check
[04:01] <scoates> now, I can't boot (disk light flashes on/off in 1s intervals -- never get a login prompt -- even in "recovery mode"
[04:01] <NoEvidenZ> edgy just gets to the boot screen and then freezes. =/
[04:01] <LameBMX> printer-ubuntu --> xppro anyone?
[04:01] <richard__> anybody know how to put a range inside an if clause in a bash script? i.e if [ $GROUP = s[0-9]  ]  , the symbols "[] " give me an error
[04:02] <k010> Aggort, try to format the hardrieve in fat using the lived
[04:02] <feryana> Fireal and I get that from synaptics, right?
[04:02] <ph8> Aggort: You can reformat drives with the ubuntu installer? or from ubuntu with (c)fdisk - you might have already mentioned that?
[04:02] <ph8> or use a liveCD of course
[04:02] <Fireal> feryana: true
[04:02] <ph8> NoEvidenZ: Have you just upgraded?
[04:02] <Aggort> ph8: Anythign Windows won;t work put it that way
[04:02] <Aggort> lol
[04:02] <ph8> so what can you actually boot to Aggort?
[04:02] <Aggort> Unless I ahve a floppy
[04:02] <ph8> any OS?
[04:02] <NoEvidenZ> ph8: live cd
[04:02] <outlaw> LameBMX it does
[04:02] <ph8> or can you boot to an install CD?
[04:03] <Aggort> Ubuntu CD
[04:03] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: i have installed ubuntu 6.10 edgy 32 bit now.
[04:03] <feryana> I already have it installed. I was using GnomeBaker and it can't do it
[04:03] <adaptr> Aggort: you don't want WIndows on it ?
[04:03] <outlaw> LameBMX it does but only if it is dhcp not static...
[04:03] <Fireal> feryana: http://www.k3b.org/ for some screen shots
[04:03] <ph8> i think you can do some formatting with the ubuntu CD
[04:03] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: goody, sound working ?
[04:03] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: but now also my network card and sound not working
[04:03] <Aggort> I can but to the install but the install locks up at the installation step
[04:03] <feryana> firereal thanks!
[04:03] <adaptr> scoates: well, then just remove it again
[04:03] <ph8> NoEvidenZ: Can you get out to another terminal with ctrl+alt+F1 or similar?
[04:03] <LameBMX> outlaw, thats good ... cuz you dont want to use static if you can configure the dhcp server (the router ) to give you the right ip addy .. things just work better that way ...
[04:03] <Aggort> adaptr: no no I do want windows, but right now I am trying to remvoe the windows alreayd on it
[04:03] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: i am installing vlc right now can you tell me how to install audacious dude
[04:03] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: well, at least you knwo what to do know.. load forcedeth, load snd_hda_intel.. try again
[04:04] <NoEvidenZ> ph8: I've just put in the amd64 live cd for edgy, but it doesn't move past the little loading screen. The Alternate CD for amd64 tells me that it's loading the kernal, but doesn't do anyhting after that.
[04:04] <scoates> adaptr: how can I remove it without a working linux?
[04:04] <adaptr> Aggort: you never need to *remove* anything.. just put in the WIndows CD and do a manual partition
[04:04] <k010> Aggort, open the terminal and do man fdisk
[04:04] <ndlovu> is there a command that will try to register the inserted pc card as a network device (like eth1 for example)?
[04:04] <adaptr> scoates: boot a livecd.. the Ubuntu install CD will do
[04:04] <adaptr> scoates: you can't run tune2fs on a mounted fs anyway
[04:04] <Aggort> adaptr: I can't
[04:05] <scoates> adaptr: )-: unfortunately I'm away from home and my parents only seem to have 650MB CDs (!?)
[04:05] <scoates> guess I'll head in to the store
[04:05] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: i have loaded forcedeth, snd-hda-intel but still nothing works
[04:05] <scoates> (they live in the middle of nowhere)
[04:05] <adaptr> Aggort: the upside is that you can spoecify you don't want Windows to take the entire drive there, too.. you there's little chance of screwing up the Windows partition afterwards
[04:05] <Aggort> k010: K now what?
[04:05] <ph8> NoEvidenZ: Hmm, have oyu checked open bugs for your system? http://bugs.ubuntu.com - it sounds like something that would have been fixed sharpish
[04:05] <LameBMX> outlaw, login to your router (with the wireless connection) ... now it should have a connected devices listing .. find your wirelaess adapter ... jot down the mac address ... find the option for reserved address .. somewhere in lan set-up/config ... and make a reserved address for your wifi cards mac address
[04:05] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: sorry, but I really have no clue then
[04:05] <k010> Aggort, u got the terminal open??
[04:05] <ph8> but if it doesn't get past kernel load... there's probably not a lot that can be done
[04:05] <ph8> and, is it the latest liveCD?
[04:05] <outlaw> LameBMX but my router has to be static, cos it is like that for years... and now i have problems with static ip 10.10.10.X and making gw to 10.10.10.2 + wpa key
[04:05] <HS^> it doesnt even boot up the installer.......
[04:05] <HS^> :S
[04:05] <adaptr> Aggort: what do you mean you can't
[04:05] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: oh dude don't do like that please help dude
[04:06] <HS^> it freezes when its loading the CD :S
[04:06] <Aggort> Maybe this will help. I want to remove everything currently on this hard drive, do a fresh install of windows then install ubuntu
[04:06] <HS^> ubuntu-6.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[04:06] <HS^> on my laptop it freezes :S
[04:06] <LameBMX> outlaw ... how old is this router .. :/ .... gimme 2 secs to find the file ...
[04:06] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: what ? you wish to pay for support ? you probably wouldn't like what it costs.... :)
[04:06] <HS^> what next
[04:06] <Aggort> k010: yes I got it open and did fdisk
[04:06] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: some great tips: 1. register on ubuntu forums and use them
[04:06] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: lol
[04:06] <Fireal> feryana: I think Kiso or isomaster may work better for you, just give them a try
[04:07] <k010> Aggort, this shud get u started fdisk on ur hardrive like "fdisk  /dev/(ur drive)
[04:07] <k010> if using sata it be /dev/sda
[04:07] <hemantsolanki> can anybody here tell me how to install audacious in ubuntu
[04:07] <NoEvidenZ> ph8: when i press ctrl alt f1, it says "Decompressing Linux.....Done" then it says "Booting the kernal." and doesn't move.
[04:07] <adaptr> hemantsolanki: 2. try another distro, one that has built-in detection, like opensuse or madriva, or even fedora
[04:07] <k010> or using ide it be /dev/hda
[04:07] <outlaw> LameBMX a bit old
[04:07] <hemantsolanki> adaptr: i tried gentoo and vlos both detect my network but not my sound dude
[04:07] <k010> Aggort, thats only true if u only have one drive
[04:07] <HS^> hello?? ubuntu freezes before the installer even starts up??
[04:07] <feryana> Firereal OK, I'm checking out how to do it with k3b but I'll go with those to. thanks again!
[04:07] <HS^> ?
[04:07] <HS^> ??
[04:08] <Aggort> k010: I do
[04:08] <k010> Aggort, is it sata?
[04:08] <Aggort> my drive would be hda1 correct?
[04:08] <_Astaroth_> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/_attachments/Galerie(2f)GNOME/gnome7.jpg < does anyone know where i can get such a note tool?
[04:08] <macky> #slip
[04:08] <k010> Aggort, just do "sudo fdisk -l"
[04:08] <macky> j #slip
[04:08] <HS^> hello?? ubuntu freezes before the installer even starts up??] 
[04:08] <k010> thats shud list u the partition u have
[04:08] <Aggort> in terminal?
[04:09] <hemantsolanki> HS^: dont use that cd i used it it is of no use
[04:09] <k010> Aggort, i'll find a guide for u
[04:09] <LameBMX> outlaw, /etc/network/interfaces ... instead of inet dhcp ... inet ip.addy netmask <netmask> dstaddr <gateway ip>
[04:09] <LameBMX> outlaw, that may be off a bit so readup on the man ifconfig ..
[04:10] <Aggort> k010: this is what I got...
[04:10] <HS^> hemantsolanki which one? i used origonal
[04:10] <Aggort> Disk /dev/hda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
[04:10] <Aggort> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
[04:10] <Aggort> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[04:10] <Aggort>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[04:10] <Aggort> /dev/hda1   *           1       16811   135034326    7  HPFS/NTFS
[04:10] <Aggort> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[04:10] <HS^> Aggort please paste somewhere else
[04:10] <LameBMX> and its not something im bout to play with while my stuff is working fine lol
[04:10] <Aggort> Sorry
[04:10] <LameBMX> !pastebin | Aggort
[04:10] <ubotu> Aggort: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:10] <Aggort> ty\
[04:10] <LameBMX> np
[04:10] <outlaw> LameBMX oki doki i'll give a try
[04:10] <LameBMX> thats what the bot is here for
[04:10] <fromvega> Hello!
[04:10] <svish> !automatix
[04:10] <ubuntu> alguem fala portugues aew?
[04:10] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:11] <LameBMX> outlaw, back up interfaces file first
[04:11] <fromvega> ubuntu: eu
[04:11] <Gothfunc_> lo.  freshish installation, aaand for some reason my keys randomly stick when i type, liiiike tttthis.  any idea why?  it doesn't happeeeeen on windows
[04:11] <ubuntu> opa
[04:11] <ph8> Gothfunc_: Mine do it very seldomly
[04:11] <k010> Aggort, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=4
[04:11] <ph8> i've never found the cause
[04:11] <ph8> usb keyboard?
[04:11] <Aggort> ty
[04:11] <ubuntu> tem como me explica como eu fao pra ver meus arkivos do meu HD pelo meu linux?
[04:11] <Gothfunc_> ps2
[04:11] <ph8> not a cheap microsoft one by any chance if so?
[04:11] <fromvega> ubuntu: but people prefer that we talk in english here
[04:11] <LameBMX> outlaw, is it an old belkin router with a long uptime by chance?
[04:11] <svish> Should I stay away from Automatix?
[04:11] <ph8> is it a cheap microsoft ps2?
[04:11] <ph8> i think i have a ps2/usb adapter back here
[04:11] <k010> read after "using fdisk to partition
[04:11] <Gothfunc_> a previooous installation of ubunttttttu DIDN'T have this prrrroblem on the same pc and keyb
[04:12] <Gothfunc_> it's just a standard cheapo keyb
[04:12] <Gothfunc_> unbranded
[04:12] <ph8> ah i see, it's obviously happening regularly for you as well rather than my seldom errors
[04:12] <Gothfunc_> yup
[04:12] <LameBMX> lol
[04:12] <pr0gress0r> hey all, i have kde setup with my nvidia fine now - resolution is perfect. However the kdm screen is not correct. Does it use a different x resource?
[04:12] <ph8> what are your preferences -> keyboard settings like?
[04:12] <LameBMX> pr0gress0r, i think login may still be in framebuffer land ...
[04:13] <fromvega> I'm creating a bootscript (that will run upon system boot) but some commands need root level. How do I do to be able to run them? Put "sudo" in front of them or what?
[04:13] <Aggort> k010: Any particualr part I need to read?
[04:13] <pr0gress0r>  LameBMX you have any idea how to configure that?
[04:13] <Gothfunc_> seems fine but maybe i hhhhave some sort of accessibility thing on by mistake
[04:13] <LameBMX> Pr0gress0r i know i could force 1280x1024 by setting vga=795 in the main string in grub ...
[04:13] <fromvega> ubuntu: pvt
[04:14] <Gothfunc_> nope
[04:14] <Gothfunc_> keyboard settings seem normal
[04:14] <Aggort> k010: because this thing is confusing me more than anything
[04:14] <pr0gress0r>  LameBMX ah ok so its a grub thing. is there a configuration tool for this available?
[04:14] <k010> Aggort, from where it say "using fdisk to partition
[04:14] <k010> Aggort, "4.c"
[04:14] <nilsflens> I want to use laptop-net to manage my network connections: wired and wireless on a laptop. Both are working. But how can I configure laptop-net to not only use eth0? Anyone any idea?
[04:15] <frogzoo> fromvega: the boot scripts in /etc/rc2.d/ all run as root
[04:15] <hemantsolanki> somebody here help me. my network and sound not working in ubuntu
[04:15] <Gothfunc_> i can't seem to replicate the error by tapping one key a lot or even mashing lots of keys... weird
[04:15] <Aggort> ko1o: I did the first step and it said it's unable to read
[04:15] <hemantsolanki> i have nvidia network card and nvidia sound card i am using athlon x2
[04:16] <Aggort> k010:k010
[04:16] <Aggort> uggh damn keyboard
[04:16] <IdleOne> !nvidia | hemantsolanki
[04:16] <ubotu> hemantsolanki: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:16] <LameBMX> pr0gress0r, http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=85539 last post has a matric of all the vga= options .. by size vs depth
[04:16] <hemantsolanki> i don't want graphics dude IdleOne
[04:16] <IdleOne> hemantsolanki:  yeah I see that'
[04:16] <fromvega> frogzo: cool
[04:16] <Aggort> k010:  Unable to open /dev/hda
[04:17] <k010> Aggort, it maybe mounted
[04:17] <IdleOne> !sound
[04:17] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[04:17] <k010> Aggort, do "sudo fdisk -l"
[04:17] <Aggort> k010: k
[04:17] <Aggort> I alread pasted that info
[04:18] <Aggort> k010: what now?
[04:18] <Gothfunc_> ph8: weird.. after loading keyb preferences and closing them again, the problem hasn'''''t appeard since...  oh...  i thought it had gone :(
[04:18] <fromvega> bye!
[04:18] <k010> Aggort,  yeah i missed ir
[04:18] <wory> TEST
[04:18] <HS^> hello?? ubuntu freezes before the installer even starts up??] 
[04:18] <HS^> its 64 version
[04:19] <HS^> i try now 32 i..f that makes a different
[04:19] <k010> Aggort,  its a win fs
[04:19] <HS^> ihave amd turion 64
[04:19] <k010> Aggort,  u in gnome?
[04:19] <dv5237> hm am i the only one here who gets files send a couple time a day from this channel? look like it some kind of exploid for mirc
[04:19] <nilsflens> hemantsolanki: What are your network problems?
[04:19] <hemantsolanki> my card doesn't gets detected
[04:20] <IdleOne> dv5237: you arent accepting them are you?
[04:20] <Aggort> k010: yes I know it's a Windows fs it's NTFS I still have Windows installed on it, I just can't access it. And I should be in gnome yes, because I'm on Ubuntu
[04:20] <dv5237> IdleOne: no im not
[04:20] <k010> Aggort, ok open gparted
[04:20] <IdleOne> dv5237: and yes it is a irc exploit not sure if it's only mirc
[04:20] <neuratix> is there an easy way to "lock the keyboard" so it does not detect keypresses?
[04:21] <dv5237> IdleOne: hm oke kinda sucks damn script kiddies
[04:21] <nilsflens> hemantsolanki: Sorry, I'm afraid that's above my skills. Not detected at all, try lspci?
[04:21] <IdleOne> dv5237: yup that exploit doesnt seem to affect Xchat though
[04:21] <Aggort> k010: How?
[04:21] <IdleOne> least not on my end
[04:21] <Aggort> k010: As dumb as that sounds lol
[04:21] <k010> Aggort, it shud be under systems
[04:22] <k010> Aggort,  or try opening under the terminal
[04:22] <Aggort> k010: found it
[04:22] <Aggort> k010: sorry dumb moment
[04:22] <Aggort> k010: now what?
[04:23] <k010> Aggort, its like a gui partition
[04:23] <iturk> i there i just connect a monitor to my laptop !! i would like to see now what i see in the laptop in that monitor !! is that possible in linux ??
[04:23] <k010> pretty straight forward
[04:23] <Aggort> k010: I know I have used it before. In fact I think it is what got me in this mess
[04:24] <Aggort> k010: Last night I resized that windows fs partition using it. After that I got my disk read error
[04:24] <k010> Aggort, i had the same problem on my desktop took couple of tries before windows actually installed
[04:25] <Aggort> k010: Echk
[04:25] <k010> Aggort, format the drive in fat than boot using the windowscd
[04:25] <Aggort> k010: So what am I doing with Gparted?
[04:25] <Aggort> ? ok
[04:26] <Aggort> brb
[04:28] <ph8> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:862:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[04:28] <ph8> Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy
[04:28] <ph8> any idea where to go from there?
[04:28] <nok1z> type this /server -m irc.quakenet.org -j redalert2
[04:29] <nok1z> type this /server -m irc.quakenet.org -j redalert2
[04:29] <nok1z> type this /server -m irc.quakenet.org -j redalert2
[04:29] <nok1z> type this /server -m irc.quakenet.org -j redalert2
[04:29] <nok1z> type this /server -m irc.quakenet.org -j redalert2
[04:29] <pak> hello
[04:29] <nok1z> hi
[04:29] <nok1z> type this /server -m irc.quakenet.org -j redalert2
[04:29] <Gosha> !lamp
[04:29] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:30] <hemantsolanki> what is the name of package for ssh?
[04:30] <Gothfunc_> ok, it seems that randomly when i'm typing a character will take aaaaaa little longer than usual to appear, maybe about half a second.  if i press     another key during this delay, that character repeats several times like the 'aaaaa' in this sentence.  any ideas where i could start trying to   diagnose this problem? :/
[04:30] <ph8> hemantsolanki: openssh
[04:30] <hemantsolanki> !ssh
[04:30] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:30] <nok1z> type this /server -m irc.quakenet.org -j redalert2
[04:30] <nok1z> type this /server -m irc.quakenet.org -j redalert2
[04:30] <daerogami> Ubuntu starting in Busy Box saying /bin/sh: cant access tty; job control off.  How can I get back to Ubuntu?
[04:30] <nok1z> type this /server -m irc.quakenet.org -j redalert2
[04:30] <nok1z> type this /server -m irc.quakenet.org -j redalert2
[04:30] <hemantsolanki> ph8: what repo is it in ?
[04:30] <Gosha> !mysql
[04:30] <nok1z> hi
[04:30] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:30] <nok1z> type this /server -m irc.quakenet.org -j redalert2
[04:30] <Juhaz> !ops
[04:30] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[04:31] <xevil> nok1z: go away...
[04:32] <hemantsolanki> ph8: E: Couldn't find package openssh
[04:32] <pak> got a problem with a webserver running ubuntu. i access it with putty, but it wont show swedish letters correctly. i guess it's got something to do with utf8/iso whatever, but i have no idea how to fix it
[04:32] <Nvening> whats the 3d desktop for ubuntu called?
[04:32] <covOPprometheus> could anyone explain me what to do, in order to get my external ntfs-disc mounted as read&write, or whether it is even possible?
[04:32] <galois-> !fuse
[04:32] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:32] <Gosha> how do i stop the mysql server?
[04:33] <NoEvidenZ> Has anyone successfully set up a wpn311 on Dapper?
[04:34] <NoEvidenZ> Hang on.. Was the installation meant to configure my wireless card?
[04:34] <Nvening> !fuse
[04:34] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:34] <hemantsolanki> how to start ssh server such that it starts automatically on boot?
[04:35] <Nvening> whats the 3d dektop for gonme called?
[04:35] <slawek> jak fajnie ze tylko ja znam polski
[04:35] <NoEvidenZ> beryl?
[04:36] <Fireal> Hey all:  I need to rm all files with .ini extension in a directory with directories inside it, when I use "rm -r *.ini" it only works for the top most directory, what do I need to add to rm from all folders?
[04:36] <cld2> anyone know about changing the terminal via update-alternatives? thanks.
[04:36] <floris84> Hello everybody, does anyone know a good how-to to set up an ubuntu network with file and print permissions?
[04:36] <alex_> irc.freenode.net
[04:37] <Fireal> FLoris84:  windows network or linux only?
[04:37] <cld2> floris84: check the howtoforge.com under samba. lots of stuff
[04:37] <Gosha> is there no way to stop the mysql server? O_o
[04:37] <ndlovu> floris84, I usually find some useful information on ubuntuguide.org
[04:37] <floris84> linux only I gave up on linux and windows mixed
[04:37] <floris84> yes, but I don't know the right term to look for I guess
[04:37] <cld2> floris84: http://www.howtoforge.com/taxonomy_menu/1/51
[04:38] <floris84> @cld2 tnx i'll take a look
[04:38] <Fireal>  I need to rm all files with .ini extension in a directory with directories inside it, when I use "rm -r *.ini" it only works for the top most directory, what do I need to add to rm from all folders?
[04:38] <hemantsolanki> can somebody tell me how to start ssh server automatically on boot
[04:38] <floris84> @Fireal -r
[04:38] <daedra> Fireal: -R
[04:38] <floris84> hmm sorry misread your question maybe
[04:38] <daedra> BIG R
[04:38] <daedra> aRRRRRR
[04:38] <alex_> hey can somebody tell me how to find drivers for a broadcom wireless chipset?
[04:38] <cld2> floris84: sorry I jumped the gun. I was assuming windows. you can use NFS (network file system) for linux to linux file sharing and cups for print sharing and management if you dont have to deal with windows.
[04:39] <Gosha> ah, nvm found out :D
[04:39] <floris84> @cld2 yeah, since I need something like openldap for authentication
[04:40] <cld2> floris84: how many machines/users do you need to deal with?
[04:40] <nikin> hy
[04:40] <Fireal> daedra I get "rm: cannot remove `*.ini': No such file or directory"
[04:40] <floris84> from 4 to about 32
[04:40] <Hattori> !wireless
[04:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:40] <floris84> they need to have certain shared folders and certain personal folders
[04:40] <s1> does a computer haveto have a fully qualified domainname to be able to run for example postfix?
[04:40] <pak> anyone knows anything about utf8 and all that?
[04:41] <cld2> floris84: servers or users?
[04:41] <floris84> and I need one windows pc for specialized software (banking etc)
[04:41] <floris84> users
[04:41] <daedra> Fireal: honestly, just type man rm
[04:41] <floris84> Browsing, Email and wordprocessing
[04:41] <daedra> Fireal: you'll learn a lot :)
[04:41] <xai> Can someone recommend ASUS  AMD-dual core motherboard that is well supported under ubuntu?
[04:41] <nightfreak> anyone managed to install the php-java-bridge?
[04:41] <Fireal> daedra: yeah thaks, just trying to be lazy ;P
[04:42] <cld2> xai: ive had lots of luck with any of the nforce4 chipset asus mobo's
[04:45] <Hattori> after "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" if i do "iwconfig" i see the card listed at eth1. but if i try to access a webpage is still doesn't work. why it's listed as eth1 and not wlan0? any help?
[04:46] <s1> has anyone seen "postfix[13028] : fatal: the postfix command is reserved for the superuser" before?
[04:46] <xai> cld2: Which model?
[04:46] <JuJuBee> How do I use chgrp to change the perms for group to add w recursively to /var/www ?
[04:46] <xai> or models?
[04:46] <xai> cld2: do they still have nforce4 in the AM2 chipsets?
[04:46] <s1> JuJuBee, man chmod
[04:46] <Fireal> OK, went through the man and info, and checked my favorite online resource, no help.  I am trying to remove files inside directories that are inside dir's that are inside my pwd in one swoop.  Any suggestions?
[04:47] <belen> HOLA
[04:47] <s1> JuJuBee,  chmod -R g+w /var/www or something like that
[04:47] <JuJuBee> Thanks s1 I forgot the g...
[04:47] <makiolo> hello , from spain (w bad english) , i have a wireless net with USB external of SMC . When i connected this USB ubuntu (, an other distributions) is unstable and slow , after pc freeze
[04:47] <floris84> i've been looking on howtoforge but all I find is how to share files with samba
[04:47] <floris84> nothing on working with linux clients
[04:47] <makiolo> hello , from spain (w bad english) , i have a wireless net with USB external of SMC . When i connected this USB ubuntu (, an other distributions) is unstable and slow , after pc freeze
[04:47] <GenNMX_> JuJuBee: chmod <owner><group><everyone>. Adding -R after chmod makes it do the act recursively.
[04:47] <belen> KE PAISA DE DONDE SOYS
[04:47] <makiolo> ups
[04:48] <daedra> !esp
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <daedra> !sp
[04:48] <makiolo> espaa xD
[04:48] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-47 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 564 kB
[04:48] <daedra> lolz
[04:48] <daedra> !es
[04:48] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:48] <AweMazing> SuSe vs. Ubuntu
[04:48] <daedra> got it eventually...
[04:49] <GenNMX_> JuJuBee: You can just do chmod -R 775, which sets read, write, and execute support for owner and group.
[04:49] <daedra> I hate how tempermental the recursive flag is
[04:49] <daedra> sometimes its -r, others its -R
[04:49] <Fireal>  I am trying to remove files inside sub-directories that are inside sub-dir's that are inside my pwd in one swoop.  Any suggestions?
[04:50] <cld2> xai: sorry I missed the dual core part.
[04:50] <daedra> Fireal: cd to the dir, then rm
[04:50] <nok1z> A substance called HMD was released from the BASF plant on Seal Sands Road, Billingham, Teesside, on Thursday morning. It is understood 37 members of staff needed hospital treatment, as the chemical burns the skin.
[04:50] <nok1z> A Cleveland Fire Brigade spokeswoman said it sent a decontamination unit and crews from Billingham, Stockton and Hartlepool to what was described as a major incident.
[04:50] <nok1z> The North East Ambulance Service said 37 people were
[04:50] <nok1z> injured in the leak, suffering burns and skin irritation, and all were decontaminated on site.
[04:50] <nok1z> One was seriously burned and taken to the Royal Victoria Infirmary in Newcastle, while seven less seriously injured staff were taken to the North Tees Hospital and nine to the James Cook University Hospital. The other 20 were discharged after being treated at the plant.
[04:50] <cld2> xai: ive only used the single core Ak8 boards.
[04:50] <nok1z> The NEAS sent crews from across Teesside to deal with the incident. It also sent a major incident trailer to the scene but it was not required.
[04:50] <nok1z> An investigation has begun into how the corrosive substance hexamethylenediamine, which is used in manufacturing plastics, was released, a BASF spokesman said. The firm said the incident occurred at its nylon intermediates plant.
[04:50] <nok1z> Fourteen site employees were taken to hospital as a precautionary measure and a further three BASF employees have been taken to hospital and require further treatment.
[04:51] <nok1z> The spokesman said: "The incident is now over and was dealt with by SembCorp emergency services and BASF personnel with the assistance of the emergency services.
[04:51] <xai> cld2: no problem, Maybe I should hold off on AM2..
[04:51] <nok1z> "The cause of the event has not yet been identified and an investigation into this incident will be initiated as soon as possible and will involve the Health and Safety Executive and the Environment Agency."
[04:51] <daedra> nok1z: NO - GO TO #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:51] <xai> cld2: thanks for the info though.
[04:51] <Fireal> daedra: so no way to take them all out at once? I have to navigate to all the sub-dir's then rm there?
[04:52] <cld2> xai: well, the nforce4 chipset is well supported under linux. as far as my experience goes. if you NEED gig-e get an intel card or something along those lines. I have several amd-asus-nforce4 boxes that installed fine and everything works.
[04:52] <daedra> if it was me I would use find, recursively, and pipe into a save file
[04:52] <daedra> then rm all the files listed in the save file...
[04:52] <slicky> iv got a webcam.. can i improve the fps or is it locked at 10fps? my camera can handle 30 fps..
[04:52] <daedra> but thats a bit inefficient..
[04:52] <Fireal> ok, good idea will give it a try, thanks
[04:53] <xai> cld2: what mobo models do you use/like in that variety?
[04:53] <Fireal> better than going into each directory
[04:53] <daedra> Fireal: man rm WILL have what you're looking for though :)
[04:54] <sexcopter8000> hi, i'm trying to use network-manager-gnome to get this laptop working wirelessly (needs WPA support). It's an intel 2915abg and doesn't seem to be working. any ideas?
[04:54] <ubuntux> can someone tell me whats the best way to set your file permissions for a joomla site?
[04:54] <cld2> xai: for my mythtv box I am using ASUS A8N-VM CSM Socket 939 NVIDIA GeForce 6150 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
[04:55] <cld2> xai: and for servers I have 3 of these ASUS A8N5X Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard
[04:55] <pak> i want to add IS-8859-1 to my /etc/locale.gen file
[04:55] <Fireal> daedra the man page only describes rm'ing directories AND contents, not files inside sub-dir's (unless I'm missing it)
[04:55] <LameBMX> Fireal, -r is a common option to recurse anything
[04:56] <LameBMX> rm -r .. does it recurvesily     say /test/1/2 is in your directory ... rm test wont work .. rm -r test will
[04:57] <Fireal> LameBMX so when I use " rm -r *.filextension " it only deletes files with that extension in my pwd?
[04:57] <pak> is this what it is supposed to look like?
[04:57] <pak> en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
[04:57] <pak> en_US ISO-8859-1
[04:57] <pak> sv_SE.UTF-8 UTF-8
[04:57] <pak> sv_SE ISO-8859-1
[04:57] <daedra> LameBMX: he;s looking to clear the _contents_ of folders recursively, but _leave_ the folders intacts
[04:57] <Fireal> LameBMX: I want to leave the sud-dir and the other files
[04:58] <jeanne> my usb flash drive isn't working
[04:58] <Nippoo>  I'm looking for an 800GB / expandable to >1TB tape drive, preferably rackmountable. Any suggestions?
[04:58] <LameBMX> Fireal, unless you specifiry / ie ... your in your home dir now ... doing rm -rf etc/ wont work unless you have an etc folder in your home dir ... but doing rm -rf /et/ will really screw your sysem up from your home dir ... difference being you specified / as the start point
[04:58] <daedra> Fireal: it's an interesting problem...
[04:59] <LameBMX> Fireal, rm -r *.ext should work ... but be careful .. lots of files dont have extensions
[04:59] <Fireal> or how about this... most the files are desktop.ini (carry-over from an old M$) sp can I delete all files called desktop.ini in a dir and its subs?
[04:59] <holmes111> hi
[04:59] <LameBMX> /etc/X11/xorg.con has an extension .. yet /etc/network/interfaces dont and they are both text files
[05:00] <juancg> hola
[05:00] <holmes111> sorry guys i have a problem with my x-server configuration
[05:00] <LameBMX> Fireal, be careful with these directions cuz ini files are common to nix ..
[05:00] <erUSUL> !es
[05:00] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:00] <LameBMX> Fireal, but change into the mount directory .. ie cd /media/windows
[05:01] <LameBMX> Fireal, then rm -rf *.ini
[05:01] <jeanne> usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2 <-- but it is not being mounted
[05:01] <LameBMX> or better yet .. rm -rfv *.ini so you can see what its doing (if -v works for rm ... another common option for verbose)
[05:02] <Fireal> its not a mounted drive just a folder named music with folders for each artist, then folders for their albums inside
[05:02] <JunK-Y> adaptr: the command i was talking about 1hr ago is asoundconf
[05:02] <JunK-Y> now, everything works fine.
[05:02] <filipe88> dai galera, preciso desenvolver uma distribuio linux, com 1 jvm, 1 browser, e bom suporte a hardware
[05:02] <LameBMX> well like i said be careful with that command .. heck i would change into the folder .. and specify it from root
[05:02] <filipe88> o que vocs recomendam, partir de alguma distribuio, algo assim, tipo knoppix?
[05:02] <Fireal> ok will give it a go
[05:03] <filipe88> uso debian no dia a dia, se alguem tiver umas dicas boas ai
[05:03] <filipe88> =] 
[05:03] <LameBMX> so say cd /home/fireal/music/ .... then rm -rf /home/fireal/music/*.ini
[05:03] <jeanne> LameBMX: what is the use of cd if you specify the full path anyway???
[05:04] <Fireal> LameBMX: won't that take out my folders?
[05:04] <BlackSoul> hola
[05:04] <LameBMX> caution .. thats it ... excessive paranio when dealing with something that can wreck lots of havok on a system
[05:04] <LameBMX> no it should just take out anything that ends ind .ini
[05:04] <filipe88> sorry my poor English
[05:04] <filipe88> is the following, necessary to develop a distribution, with support the java, with 1 browser, and good support to hardware, what do you indicate about point of I begin?
[05:04] <Fireal> I have a test area set up so I can't hurt myseld
[05:04] <BlackSoul> ok bye
[05:05] <LameBMX> so if you had a folder named music.ini/ it would take that out
[05:05] <LameBMX> Fireal, thats a good idea
[05:05] <iratik> is there any way to troubleshoot "out of memory" ?
[05:05] <LameBMX> i did that crap in windows on accident ...
[05:05] <LameBMX> iratik try swap on
[05:05] <LameBMX> :/
[05:05] <brian_> hey people
[05:05] <iratik> better than nothing
[05:05] <jeanne> my usb is not working :( any tips?
[05:06] <iratik> good idea
[05:06] <iratik> thanks
[05:06] <LameBMX> i deleted *.lnk from documents and settings :/
[05:06] <NoEvidenZ> Could someone tell me the exact commands to make my network card stop using the driver it's currently using, and then use the one ndiswrapper has loaded?
[05:06] <pike_> jeanne: not working? does lsusb show the device?
[05:06] <brian_> do i need to reboot after installing a module?
[05:06] <Fireal> ouch
[05:06] <LameBMX> what happened Fireal
[05:06] <jeanne> pike_: no lsusb hangs
[05:07] <Fireal> LameBMX only took out *ini files from pwd
[05:07] <LameBMX> with the -r
[05:07] <Fireal> not in the sub-dir's
[05:07] <LameBMX> did you specify path?
[05:07] <Fireal> LameBMX: yep (too both)
[05:07] <brian_> anyone have any experience with gspcav1 webcam drivers?
[05:08] <Fireal>  LameBMX: yep (to both)
[05:08] <LameBMX> well try without specifying path .. so cd /folder/
[05:08] <LameBMX> rm -rf *.ini
[05:08] <Fireal> LameBMX: that will work but is labor intensive
[05:08] <LameBMX> no im talkin about trying it from the bast folder and seeing if it recurses
[05:09] <LameBMX> Fireal, are you sudo'n it
[05:09] <Nvening> hi
[05:09] <IceTox> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/453/  <-- Anyone can see on this copy/paste of "top" from terminal why my computer is going so freakin' slow? :| (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/453/)
[05:09] <Fireal> don't need to, I have permission
[05:09] <brian_> can anyone help me with my webcam?
[05:09] <LameBMX> can you rm -rf the whole lot?
[05:10] <LameBMX> the -r option may need root to function ..
[05:10] <Fireal> if I went into each dir, yes, but I am trying to avoid that
[05:10] <LameBMX> firreal
[05:10] <brian_> do i need to reboot in order for new kernel modules to function?
[05:10] <LameBMX> sudo it and see what happens
[05:10] <Fireal> ok
[05:10] <brian_> ?
[05:11] <Nvening> i just installed beryl but i am getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/454/ can anyone help?
[05:12] <Fireal> LameBMX: only worked in pwd
[05:12] <brian_> i just need to know if I need to reboot for new kernal modules to work
[05:12] <Fireal> files in sub-dir went untouched
[05:12] <LameBMX> Fireal, but it did recurse this time correct
[05:12] <LameBMX> Fireal, back to basics .. create a nest with a few folder nested and a few blank .ini files nests ...
[05:12] <Fireal> I think -r is for directories AND contents
[05:13] <LameBMX> better yet Fireal ill brb
[05:13] <cherva> I CAN'T BOOT UBUNTU ON MY MACHINE WHEN IT'S TIME TO START GNOME THE SCREEN URNS BLACK AND NOTHING HAPPENES PLS HELP ME
[05:13] <hexidigital> !caps
[05:13] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:13] <Fireal> LameBMX: that's what I did...great monds
[05:13] <Fireal> minds
[05:13] <Fireal> LameBMX: ok thanks
[05:14] <cherva> can someone help
[05:14] <cherva> is this better ubotu
[05:14] <funkyHat> I'm using pulse audio and I can't get anything that isn't Gstreamer to play sound... is anyone using pulse and managed to get the ALSA wrapper working properly?
[05:14] <hexidigital> cherva::  can you get into a terminal console by pressing Alt + F1?
[05:14] <brian_> Cherva, is does you monitor get a no signal error/
[05:14] <brian_> ?
[05:14] <cherva> the error is
[05:15] <cherva> cant get recource 3 on
[05:15] <cherva> some numbers
[05:15] <hexidigital> cherva::  what kind of video card?
[05:15] <pike_> cherva: try: alt-ctrl-f2 then login then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart might work. choose vesa driver in configuration tool
[05:15] <brian_> have you been modifying your xorg.conf?
[05:15] <cherva> GeForce 6200 on PCI-E
[05:15] <hexidigital> pike_::  whoops, i forgot ctrl
[05:15] <cherva> i commented 1 module
[05:16] <cherva> named with 3 letter
[05:16] <cherva> dbi
[05:16] <cherva> or something
[05:16] <cherva> like that
[05:16] <elyon> I'm having a problem changing the resolution of my login screen (which is preventing me from changing sessions and such)
[05:16] <LameBMX> Fireal, hmmmm
[05:16] <sHd0w> I am having troubles with the repositories on my ubuntu server 6.10 I keep getting the error temporarily falied resolving host us.archive.ubuntu.com and even before that i would try to apt-get programs and it would say that the archive doesnt have them but it really does if anyone can help it would be much appreciated thanks
[05:16] <brian_> ok when your screen goes black do you still here the drum roll thing that asks for your username?
[05:16] <elyon> I have already checked my xorg.conf, the forums, and run xserver reconfig.
[05:17] <Detox> any assist with ssh?
[05:17] <cherva> nothing
[05:17] <cherva> just black screen
[05:17] <cherva> even the monitor doesn't turn off
[05:17] <brian_> hmmm well try ctrl-alt f2 to log in on text mode
[05:17] <brian_> do that when the screen goes black
[05:17] <cherva> ok whait to power on my second PC
[05:18] <cherva> and to move my IRC
[05:18] <cherva> there
[05:18] <elyon> Still no hep here?
[05:18] <brian_> lol i dont know about text mode and irc
[05:18] <elyon> help
[05:18] <cherva> my second pc is on WIN
[05:18] <brian_> but chances are your xorg.conf is backed up
[05:18] <bidha2kbsd> hi i try to apt-get install libnss-ldap nscd but could not find the pacakge
[05:18] <hexidigital> !patience | elyon
[05:18] <ubotu> elyon: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:18] <bidha2kbsd> ..are those no more used..
[05:19] <brian_> you can edit it with "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[05:19] <brian_> undo whatever you did
[05:19] <brian_> before you do that check id there is a backup available
[05:19] <hexidigital> elyon::  did you say you ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg ?
[05:19] <ubuntux> hey how can i chmod files recursively without changing directory rights?
[05:20] <Fireal> LameBMX: i think i got it
[05:20] <Fireal> tell me what you think
[05:20] <Fireal> find /path -name *ini
[05:20] <brian_> so do "cd /etc/X11" then "ls" if you see something like xorg.conf.original-0 or something like that the do "mv xorg.conf.xxxx xorg.conf
[05:20] <brian_> "
[05:20] <Fireal> now I need to delete the output
[05:21] <Fireal> how?
[05:21] <elyon> hexidigital:  yes, I ran that.
[05:21] <LameBMX> Fireal, i think ur onto something
[05:21] <elyon> hexidigital:  As for the patience thing... I've been asking for help with this for over a week and you're only the second person to even respond ;)
[05:21] <hexidigital> elyon::  when it asked for resolution, (towards the end) were you able to choose a higher res?
[05:21] <brian_> damn a week of idling this room ? loooool
[05:21] <Fireal> LameBMX: find /path -name *.ini | What do you suggest?
[05:22] <elyon> hexidigital:  I was.  The problem isn't that the resolution is too low, its that its too high, and my mouse doesn't work right at that resolution for some reason.
[05:22] <roniez> When i try to set the translation in irssi i get this error message  -!- Irssi: Error opening translation table file 8859-1: No such file or directory
[05:22] <BGmIRC[08] > ok moved my Mirc sec to reboot with the CD
[05:22] <Tonren> Guys, network-manager isn't detecting my wireless card.  I've been managing by manually doing sudo iwconfig eth1 ap any; sudo ifup eth1;.
[05:22] <roniez> anybody know a possible solution for it?
[05:22] <Tonren> How do I get network-manager to detect my wireless card and stuff?
[05:22] <Tonren> Or is there a better wireless applet?
[05:22] <crunk> proftp
[05:22] <crunk> errr, this is not a terminal window, disregard!
[05:23] <bidha2kbsd> hi i try to apt-get install libnss-ldap nscd but could not find the pacakge  ..are those no more used..
[05:23] <hexidigital> elyon::  ok, if you rerun dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg , arrow up/down to hilight resolutions, pressing SPACE to select/deselect, then restart the X server [Ctrl + Alt + Backspace] 
[05:23] <hexidigital> elyon::  while you do that, i'll brb
[05:24] <elyon> hexidigital:  I've done that before, but I'll give it another go.
[05:24] <reagleBRKLN> hi, how do I add MS Word support to Kerry/Beagle? I installed wv.
[05:24] <scythe128> reagle, why not run it in wine?
[05:24] <samy> hi
[05:25] <samy> is k ubunto contain developer tools ?
[05:25] <elyon> Uhm... now its telling me that xserver.xorg is not installed
[05:25] <reagleBRKLN> scythe128: what's wine have to do with being able to search documents with beagle?
[05:25] <the_amo> What are the best drivers for an ATI card? (x1900)
[05:25] <elyon> samy:  Depends on what you want to develope ;)
[05:25] <Tonren> Anyone?  Anyone know a good Wireless GUI app?  Am I the only dude with a laptop in here?
[05:25] <scythe128> nm, read it wrong
[05:25] <samy> c++ tools
[05:25] <samy> and php
[05:26] <scythe128> tonren, what are you looking to do?
[05:26] <ryanakca> how do you use footnotes in the wiki?
[05:26] <FurryNemesis> Tonren, network connection manager not working for you?
[05:26] <Tonren> scythe128: Well, I suppose I'd like something that works like Windows' wireless applet.  Just something that searches for, connects to and manages my wireless connections.
[05:26] <Tonren> FurryNemesis: Are you referring to network-manager, the little doohickey in the system tray that just says "No network connection"?
[05:26] <FurryNemesis> Tonren, try wifi-radar
[05:27] <Tonren> FurryNemesis: Thanks!
[05:27] <samy> hi
[05:27] <pike_> samy: ive heard good things about kdevelope if youre looking for an ide. ive never done anything so complicated that vim wouldnt work personally
[05:27] <scythe128> tonren, I use knetwork manager, I dont know if it will work in gnome though
[05:27] <zacha> uschi hat mir grad sms geschickt
[05:27] <hexidigital> elyon::  deselect all of the low resolutions if you have to... something that you know will be workable
[05:27] <the_amo> I'll repeat the question... " What are the best drivers for an ATI card? (x1900)"
[05:27] <Tonren> scythe128: I'm sure it would, well, it probably wouldn't fit in the tray.
[05:27] <eXistenZ> How can I overwrite the definition of ls to ls -la. I tried writing an alias, but didn't work =/
[05:27] <hexidigital> elyon::  also, what type of video card do you have?
[05:28] <scythe128> tonren, I have my running in kicker right now (I am in kde)
[05:28] <Tonren> scythe128: "kicker"?
[05:28] <pike_> samy: er kdevelop3 is current package i think
[05:28] <IceTox> ya guys know of any known reasons to why xorg starts taking too much of CPU?
[05:28] <Cherva> i cant run text mode with Ctrl + Alt + F1,2,3,4
[05:28] <samy> kdevlop need any other thing
[05:28] <bowens__> Hey folks, I was wondering, is there a repository for the latest kernels?
[05:28] <scythe128> tonrenits the same as dock for osx, its ...... where my shortcuts, running minimized apps and stuff are shown in kde
[05:29] <SMG2007> hi
[05:29] <FurryNemesis> Tonren, if your wireless card's not being auto picked up by the normal network manager, right click on the icon, select properties and enter ra0 or sit0 in the box - one of them should pick up your card if it's not a broadcom chipset
[05:29] <frogzoo> IceTox: upgrade your vid driver if possible
[05:29] <LameBMX> Fireal, find test/ -name *.ini | /dev/null dont have permissions .. :/
[05:29] <SMG2007> anyone know how to install flumotion on a ubuntu dapper drake?
[05:29] <IceTox> vid driver frogzoo?
[05:29] <Tonren> FurryNemesis: network-manager has no "Properties" option in the right click menu.
[05:29] <ryanakca> how do you use footnotes in the wiki?
[05:29] <pike_> samy: youll waant the build-essential package for general compiling.
[05:29] <elyon> Uhm... now its telling me that xserver.xorg is not installed
[05:29] <elyon> ?
[05:29] <hexidigital> elyon::  ??
[05:29] <Tonren> FurryNemesis: Also, it *is* a Broadcom chipset - the notorious Broadcom 3418.
[05:29] <FurryNemesis> the little icon in the taskbar?
[05:29] <FurryNemesis> argh
[05:29] <FurryNemesis> oh dear
[05:29] <Cherva> cant anyone help me with this black screen on boot ??
[05:29] <Tonren> FurryNemesis: Yeah.  I think that I have network-manager, but you're referring to nm-applet.
[05:29] <FurryNemesis> off to ndiswrapper with you then
[05:30] <sHd0w> I have been trying to apt-get programs on my ubuntu-server 6.10 I keep getting the error temporarily unable to resolve hostname us.archive.ubuntu.com and even before that i would try to apt-get applications and the package wouldnt exist but it is in the achives like webalizer for instance help would be very appreciated thanks
[05:30] <iratik> "-bash: swap: command not found
[05:30] <iratik> " how else to expand avail memory?:
[05:30] <Tonren> FurryNemesis: Actually, I've been using Cafuego's firmware to some good effect.
[05:30] <FurryNemesis> really?
[05:30] <Tonren> FurryNemesis: Yep!
[05:30] <the_amo> Again...  What are the best drivers for an ATI card? (x1900)
[05:30] <SMG2007> flumotion anybody?
[05:30] <Tonren> FurryNemesis: ndiswrapper works better, but since I upgraded to Edgy it doesn't work anymore.
[05:30] <FurryNemesis> I might try that with my old BT card
[05:30] <hexidigital> elyon::  are you on the computer having problems (on irc?)
[05:30] <FurryNemesis> thanks for the tip
[05:31] <beerockxs> I'm having a weird problem with Xinerama, when I move the mouse cursor really fast to the other monitor, the cursor does not switch to the normal arrow cursor, but keeps for example the text cursor look, when I was in a text document before
[05:31] <Tonren> FurryNemesis: I'd love to switch back to ndiswrapper, because its reception is a LOT better (aka. I can pick up networks in Windows that I can't in Linux w/ the firmware), but I haven't figured out how to fix it.
[05:31] <Tonren> FurryNemesis: no prob.
[05:31] <beerockxs> anyone know how to fix that, or against which package to report it?
[05:31] <Cherva> no gnome on ubuntu 6.10 live cd only black screen anyone to help me ???
[05:31] <Tonren> FurryNemesis: Should I run wifi-radar on startup?
[05:31] <hexidigital> Tonren::  KDE or Gnome?
[05:31] <the_amo>  What are the best drivers for an ATI card? (x1900)?????????????????????????????
[05:31] <sHd0w> does anyone know about repositories problems on ubuntu servers
[05:31] <Tonren> hexidigital: Gnome.
[05:31] <frogzoo> !fglrx | the_amo
[05:31] <ubotu> the_amo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:32] <FurryNemesis> might as well, it should be accessible from applications > internet as well
[05:32] <frogzoo> !fixres | Cherva
[05:32] <ubotu> Cherva: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:32] <the_amo> yes, but whch are the best??
[05:32] <the_amo> fglrx??
[05:32] <leeo> how can i reset my root password?
[05:32] <scythe128> the_amo, probably the latest catalyst drivers, I dont know but IF you havent recieved an answer after asking 5 times in less minutes, someone probably doesnt have an answer for you
[05:32] <Cherva> i cant see nothing
[05:32] <hexidigital> Tonren::  bah... i had problems with the 4318 until i installed KDE, which has wireless-assistant... you could give that a shot if you like, but it will probably install lots of stuff (but like i said, wireless-assistant works for me w/ the firmware from the repos)
[05:32] <Cherva> just black screen
[05:32] <SMG2007> flumotion anybody?
[05:32] <the_amo> ok
[05:33] <the_amo> I'll look for the latest flgrx
[05:33] <Tonren> hexidigital: I'm actually terrified to install or remove anything with aptitude OR apt-get now.  Something weird happened, and now every 3rd time, or so, that I use either of them, they try to install a hundred million packages.
[05:33] <elyon> hexidigital:  Sorry, I'm here.  Yes, I'm on the same system.
[05:33] <hexidigital> Tonren::  did you aptitude update && aptitude upgrade recently? there may be newer software, and it is just trying to upgrade them all
[05:34] <Tonren> hexidigital: Hmm.. that could help.  I don't think I"ve run either of those recently.
[05:34] <hexidigital> Tonren::  is it a fresh install?
[05:34] <fiandre>  Hi. i have to access to a icewm session trhough ssh (with -X flag, in a "graphical way"). Anyway, when I try to launch Icewm it says that another window manager is running. But in the remote pc it's running only KDM. Any idea about how to solve? thnks....
[05:34] <eXistenZ> hexidigital, What mp3 mplaya do you use
[05:34] <Tonren> hexidigital: Hell no
[05:34] <hexidigital> eXistenZ::  moc
[05:34] <Tonren> hexidigital: Also, the systray updater hasn't been running constantly, so..
[05:34] <hexidigital> Tonren::  it could just be updates... Edgy i assume?
[05:34] <Tonren> hexidigital: Yep.
[05:35] <Tonren> hexidigital: update/upgrade didn't give me anything.
[05:35] <hexidigital> Tonren::  i'd imagine that is the case then
[05:35] <hexidigital> Tonren::  what about dist-upgrade?
[05:35] <roniez> where are the charset files located?
[05:35] <hexidigital> elyon::  i'm looking for a solution
[05:35] <sHd0w> I have been trying to apt-get programs on my ubuntu-server 6.10 I keep getting the error temporarily unable to resolve hostname us.archive.ubuntu.com and even before that i would try to apt-get applications and the package wouldnt exist but it is in the achives like webalizer for instance help would be very appreciated thanks
[05:35] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[05:35] <roniez> i am unable to set my charset for irssi cause it cant find the files.
[05:35] <hexidigital> elyon::  (trying, anyway)
[05:35] <Tonren> hexidigital: Nothin'.
[05:35] <elyon> hexidigital:  I appreciate it.
[05:35] <SMG2007> does anyone know how to installar Flumotion??
[05:35] <PoLL> soso
[05:35] <LameBMX> fiandre, ssh -X user@add ...
[05:35] <Tonren> hexidigital: I've gotta run.  I'll figure it out eventually.  Thanks though.  Adios!
[05:35] <elyon> hexidigital:  I've checked all the forums, googled, etc., and can find a thousand solutions but none work for me.
[05:35] <LameBMX> fiandre, are you gettin no screen found?
[05:36] <hexidigital> Tonren::  like i said... it is up to you, and will probably install a bunch of KDE stuff, but you can give wireless-assistant a shot
[05:36] <IceTox> frogzoo: the video driver you mean? If so, any easy way to do that?
[05:36] <xankas> hi!!
[05:36] <LameBMX> fiandre, if so then startx i-- :1
[05:36] <Tonren> hexidigital: I'll think about it... I'll see how wifi-radar works.
[05:36] <elyon> hexidigital:  it wouldn't be such a bad thing for it to be a higher resolution, but the mouse is screwed up so I can't click any of the buttons...
[05:36] <Tonren> Seeya, folks.
[05:36] <LameBMX> fiandre, if so then startx -- :1
[05:36] <Cherva> If anyone want to help me on this black screen on boot pls whisper me !!!
[05:36] <hexidigital> elyon::  try this without quotes  "sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg"
[05:36] <SMG2007> flumotion any1?
[05:37] <hexidigital> elyon::  to see if it reinstalls it... which baffles me why it wouldn't be there
[05:37] <LameBMX> fiandre, if that works then do startx -- icewm :1 ...
[05:37] <elyon> hexidigital:  Okay, that didn't install anything - says I don't need anything.
[05:37] <LameBMX> elyon, have you ever thought of this as a mouse issue and not a resolution issue?
[05:37] <hexidigital> elyon::  are you in a terminal
[05:38] <elyon> LameBMX:  My mouse works perfectly
[05:38] <elyon> hexidigital:  Yes.
[05:38] <fiandre> LameBMX: ssh -X user@add ... that's exactly what i've done
[05:38] <eXistenZ> Is it recommended to install xmms2?
[05:38] <SilentDis> Cherva, normally, we keep everything in channel, and just preface the person's name.  that way others can learn.  Secondly, what do you mean by 'black screen on boot'?  Does the machine boot up, but there's no usplash?  Does the machine hang during the boot process forever?
[05:38] <LameBMX> fiandre, then did you initialize the x session
[05:38] <fiandre> then i tried  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:38] <LameBMX> or does it auto initialize?
[05:38] <fiandre> it auto initialize
[05:38] <HS^> every time i try to install it freezes with "setting up console font and keymap"
[05:39] <LameBMX> i forget been a short while since i played wit it
[05:39] <HS^> why?
[05:39] <fiandre> it auto initializes
[05:39] <HS^> every time i try to install it freezes with "setting up console font and keymap" . amy solution?
[05:39] <LameBMX> fiandre, then try removing the -X and starting X manually with the startx command
[05:39] <HS^> i tried 32 and 64 bit version
[05:39] <hexidigital> elyon::  "sudo /etc/X11/Xsession restart
[05:39] <elyon> LameBMX:  At higher resolutions in Linux, my mouse cursor doesn't appear where it should.  meaning clicking buttons does nothing, but clicking an empty space may activate the button I tried to click on... make sense?
[05:39] <fiandre> LameBMX: how can i remove -X ?
[05:39] <fiandre> i know startx but
[05:39] <fiandre> how to stop?
[05:39] <LameBMX> elyon, i think thats a mouse issue lol ...
[05:40] <LameBMX> fiandre, are you already in it?
[05:40] <hexidigital> LameBMX::  is there a way to reinstall the mouse driver?
[05:40] <fiandre> LameBMX: yes
[05:40] <carld> how do I do a ls of *.htm and *.html in the same command?  ls *.htm[l]  doen't work, neither does *.[html|htm] 
[05:40] <Mac40DO> Hi! I need the "fixed" font, which is not antialiased,  for my console. How can I install it?
[05:40] <elyon> hexidigital:  "Xsession unable to launch - restart not found
[05:40] <LameBMX> fiandre, this ctrl-alt F1
[05:40] <BGmIRC[08] > how can i prevent Gnome to start on ubuntu 6.10 live cd
[05:40] <LameBMX> then ctrl-c a few times
[05:40] <fiandre> LameBMX: i have to do that remotely!
[05:40] <hexidigital> elyon::  are you in a GUI now, or a TTY?
[05:40] <elyon> LameBMX:  Just say you don't understand... because its 100% not related to the mouse... its graphical.
[05:40] <psykotic> is there an easy way to reconfigure alt + left mouse button dragging the current window? i can't find it in the "keyboard shortcuts" configuration dialog
[05:40] <SilentDis> got a bit of an otw question here... I have a bunch of FAT32 drives (network storage disk, keyfobs, etc).  They're fat32 for accessability and portability's sake.  i was wondering if there's any tool out there for linux to defragment fat32 drives (i'm aware it's really not necessary for ext3)
[05:41] <elyon> hexidigital:  I'm in Gnome with a terminal window open.
[05:41] <fathom> can someone help me disable Indexes in the apache2 server? I can't figure it out.
[05:41] <HS^> every time i try to install it freezes with "setting up console font and keymap" . amy solution?
[05:41] <LameBMX> elyon, and you know this how ... i know you have been struggling with this issue for a short while now ...
[05:41] <BGmIRC[08] > how can i prevent Gnome to start on ubuntu 6.10 live cd??
[05:41] <hexidigital> elyon::  did you restart the x server?  when you do that, you will lose your IRC connection
[05:41] <LameBMX> elyon, and it being a mouse issue is definately a possibility
[05:41] <SilentDis> HS^, does it hard-lock?  as in, can't move mouse, etc?
[05:41] <elyon> LameBMX:  Well, because my mouse works perfectly otherwise.  Its the mouse POINTER that is not being consistant.
[05:41] <xmOD> hello is xtknight here?
[05:42] <Cherva> how can i prevent Gnome to start on ubuntu 6.10 live cd??
[05:42] <jbroome> xmOD: doesn't look like it
[05:42] <xmOD> well i got a problem and he solved  it yest
[05:42] <cdubya> anyone up for a printer challenge?
[05:42] <SilentDis> Cherva, you can't.  you'll need to grab the 'alternate' or 'dvd' distro.
[05:42] <cdubya> heh
[05:42] <HS^> every time i try to install it freezes with "setting up console font and keymap" . amy solution?
[05:42] <hexidigital> Cherva::  you can't... you have to download the alternate cd
[05:42] <elyon> hexidigital:  How do I restart the x server?  I've rebooted my system a few times lately.
[05:42] <VMT2007> gee, gentoo is so quick and easy to install!
[05:42] <xmOD> so i was hoping if he was here then he could help me.. its a serious prob.. can somebody help?
[05:43] <jbroome> xmOD: just ask
[05:43] <SilentDis> HS^, read my previous question :)  does it hard lock, or does just the installer hang?
[05:43] <hexidigital> elyon::  CTRL + ALT + Backspace... i'll be right back in the meantime, just lemme know when you are back
[05:43] <VMT2007> !justask xmOD
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about justask xmOD - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <VMT2007> !justask | xmOD
[05:43] <ubotu> xmOD: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:43] <HS^> SilenceGold sorry there s much text here. the installer hangs
[05:43] <SilentDis> VMT2007, it's !ask or !anyone or !doesnt work :)
[05:43] <HS^> SilenceGold i dont know what is 'hardlock'
[05:44] <elyon> Uhm... now my resolution has changed.
[05:44] <cdubya> I've got a USB Samsung ML-1710 hooked up to a box running 6.06 LTS. I thought that hooking it up as a network printer should have been very simple as it always has been, but at this point, I was better off printing to it when it ran win2k.
[05:44] <elyon> lol
[05:44] <HS^> SilentDis sorry there s much text here. the installer hangs
[05:44] <SilentDis> HS^, using the liveCD version?
[05:44] <elyon> hexidigital:  Looks like it works now for some reason.
[05:44] <HS^> SilentDis no
[05:44] <cdubya> The printer works fine printing from the machine it's attached to.....just can't get my lappy here to be able to print to it.....
[05:44] <cdubya> looked at the wiki....
[05:44] <SilentDis> HS^, alternate install?
[05:44] <hexidigital> elyon::  :)
[05:44] <HS^> SilentDis should i try that?
[05:44] <hexidigital> elyon::  good to hear
[05:45] <elyon> hexidigital:  AH!  You know what??  After all the changes I made that I thought didn't work... I was never told to restart X :)
[05:45] <VMT2007> gentoo is just :\
[05:45] <HS^> SilentDis no just a normal default install
[05:45] <cdubya> but would much appreciate the help from anyone.......
[05:45] <SilentDis> HS^, the 'normal' install is the live cd :)
[05:45] <cdubya> before I go back to win2k
[05:45] <elyon> hexidigital:  I just kept logging out and not seeing a difference.
[05:45] <cruzton> (re 6.06/server) i replaced my network card with a 3com 905... the driver 3c59x says it found it in dmesg
[05:45] <cruzton> yet it doesnt want to come up
[05:45] <HS^> SilentDis the bootscreens also look different on 32 bit and 64 bit
[05:45] <hexidigital> elyon::  it's like automagic :)
[05:45] <SilentDis> HS^, you boot off the cd into a full, working copy of ubuntu, then click the install icon on the desktop, right?
[05:45] <cruzton> ie. no eth0 device
[05:45] <elyon> hexidigital:  Thanks for you help :P
[05:45] <HS^> SilentDis why is it called live cd? its just a install cd
[05:45] <cdubya> !printers
[05:45] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:45] <hexidigital> elyon::  no problem, glad to help
[05:45] <elyon> Maybe now I can give KDE a try finally.
[05:45] <krunchi192> hi everybody, can anybody help me, where files are downloaded to local disk for update of system by system updater
[05:45] <elyon> Seeya guys
[05:45] <iratik> anyway to increase the memory i tried "swap on" but its not a command
[05:46] <HS^> SilentDis i never got anything working. it freezes
[05:46] <xmOD> Well.. i installed ubuntu on my comp.. but during installation i disconnected my Windows HDD so my system was booting into windows if the Windows HDD was connected on startup.. xtknight solved this problem yest by changing the MBR and moving grub to the first slot .. now i dont remember how he did it because now after installing some updates for ubuntu, the problem is back.. the system boots up grub but i cant boot into the system because the menu.lst file ha
[05:46] <xmOD> s to be edited.. i am right now on live cd so how owuld i mount my hard drives and edit menu.lst?
[05:46] <SilentDis> HS^, there's 3 different 'versions' out there for different situations.  livecd is what most people use, alternate is for lowmem machines.  dvd is a combo of both, plus extra repositories
[05:47] <SilentDis> HS^, i could use some more info:  what did you download?  (the file name of the .iso, if possible, it'll tell me exactly what you're trying ton install) :)
[05:47] <HS^> SilentDis i used this: ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso  and the one for 64 bit
[05:47] <HS^> both fail
[05:47] <pike_> cdubya: not too familiar with cups.. youre trying to print from one ubuntu machine to another that has a shared printer?
[05:47] <fathom> I need help disabling Indexes on the base apache directory... can someone help me with this?
[05:47] <HS^> SilentDis but then the latest version
[05:47] <cdubya> heh
[05:47] <HS^> 6.10
[05:47] <cdubya> that's funny
[05:47] <SilentDis> HS^, ok, what are the 'general' specs on the machine?  proc type/speed, amount of memory?
[05:47] <HS^> SilentDis turion AMD 64 laptop, 1 gig memory
[05:48] <HS^> its from compaq
[05:48] <scoates> hi. I can't seem to boot Ubuntu. It just hangs during startup (even in recovery mode) disk light flashes on/off. I can mount the disk with the liveCD, no problem. Help?
[05:48] <SilentDis> HS^, ok, you should be fine with the 64-bit or 32-bit distros.  when you first boot the cd, there's an option to 'check cd for defects', have you run that?
[05:48] <HS^> yes, theres no defects.
[05:48] <cdubya> changed the subnet for the the Allow From to my subnet and tried to restart cups....got a "child exited with status 1"
[05:49] <cdubya> heh
[05:49] <krunchi192>  hi everybody, can anybody help me, where files are downloaded to local disk for update of system by system updater??????????? means local cache
[05:49] <SilentDis> HS^, hmm... it sounds like the install is having problems reading files is all....
[05:49] <krunchi192> \
[05:49] <ubunturus> hello people, my ubuntu freezes when using my 56k modem... anybody knows how can i kill the modem to stop it worling?
[05:49] <HS^> i run that, it checks checksum
[05:49] <SilentDis> HS^, are you on that livecd right now?
[05:49] <krunchi192>  hi everybody, can anybody help me, where files are downloaded to local disk for update of system by system updater??????????? means local cache?????????????????????????
[05:49] <HS^> SilentDis what do you mean livecd? im now on windows , and on laptop i tried to install  ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso and the 74 bit version
[05:49] <HS^> i dont see any liveCD
[05:50] <bieb> I am still having huge problems configuring Dialup on my father's laptop that I just installed 6.06 on. I am using wvdial, it connects to my isp, it tells me that pppd is on, and it has received local address and primary and secondary DNS addresses.. can anyone help?
[05:50] <ubunturus> hello people, my ubuntu freezes when using my 56k modem... anybody knows how can i kill the modem to stop it working? thanks
[05:50] <SilentDis> HS^, the 'desktop' cd then.  both names are appropriate :)
[05:50] <sHd0w> Im having loadsof trouble with insalling software with apt-get on my ubuntu server 6.10
[05:50] <Fireal> Anyone know how to easily remove all line breaks from a text doc?
[05:50] <HS^> SilentDis no i cant install that. because it freezes
[05:50] <x0x> how can i install software/programs without internet connection?If i already have .deb file
[05:50] <SilentDis> krunchi192, they're stored in /var/cache/apt/archives :)
[05:50] <sHd0w> dpkg --install yourprogram
[05:50] <strabes> does anyone know how to enable hitting tab to complete commands in gnome-terminal? I somehow disabled it...
[05:50] <krunchi192> thanks silentDis
[05:51] <HS^> SilentDis, it also spits some errors before it freezes, but it seems unrelated
[05:51] <carld> how do you tell sed to execute on a file and not do to stdout.  I dont' want to just create a new file, I want to change existing file
[05:51] <ubunturus> hello people, my ubuntu freezes when using my 56k modem... anybody knows how can i kill the modem to stop it working? thanks
[05:51] <SilentDis> HS^, ok... i'm a bit lost.  walk me through exactly what happens.  step 1 - you put the cd in the drive.  step 2 - ubuntu boots from cd.  do you get to the desktop, or does it crash/hang/freeze during that boot process?
[05:51] <sHd0w> does anyone know hoq to fix repository problems from ubuntu server 6.10
[05:52] <SilentDis> !anyone | sHd0w
[05:52] <ubotu> sHd0w: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:52] <HS^> SilentDis i dont get in te desktop.
[05:52] <bytebubble> hi..I just booted into my ubuntu box and it gave me lots of errors about the / filesystem. I used the live cd to fsck it, now i am unable to login. it mentions critical errors related to PAM. how shoul dI proceed?
[05:52] <bieb> ubunturus how did you activate it?
[05:52] <ubunturus> my modem?
[05:52] <ubunturus> i got conexant driver and then patched
[05:52] <sHd0w> I have been trying to apt-get programs on my ubuntu-server 6.10 I keep getting the error temporarily unable to resolve hostname us.archive.ubuntu.com and even before that i would try to apt-get applications and the package wouldnt exist but it is in the achives like webalizer for instance help would be very appreciated thanks
[05:52] <HS^> SilentDis it crashes/hang/freeze during boot process, on both 32bit and 64bit
[05:52] <xmOD> is anybody gonna answer me?
[05:52] <SilentDis> HS^, ok, so during the boot process, it hangs.  that helps immensely (you're not actually installing yet).
[05:52] <ubunturus> so when working it freezes before it gets disconnected...
[05:53] <xmOD> i can tell u the steps to solve the prob but i dont know the commands casue i'm new
[05:53] <HS^> SilentDis i dont see how it helps, i cant install it. thats my problem :P
[05:53] <ubunturus> so if i could kill the modem to work i think it would stop being freezed and i could restart modem dialing again..
[05:53] <SilentDis> HS^, there's a 'safe video' mode option on that cd during the boot, have you tried that?
[05:53] <bieb> ubunturus you can right click the toolbar at the top of the desktop and add, modem monitor to it, once that toold is there you can right click the tool and select disable
[05:54] <xmOD> please somebody help
[05:54] <HS^> SilentDis yes, i tried.
[05:54] <ubunturus> it doesnt work sadly.. i need a command via terminal
[05:54] <bieb> is the modem info running on the term now?
[05:54] <HS^> SilentDis i also tried f6, and removing the splash screen from it and the silent
[05:54] <HS^> still freezes..
[05:54] <ubunturus> yes
[05:55] <bieb> press ctrl+c
[05:55] <ubunturus> i use wvdial and i kill wvdial and problem persists...
[05:55] <SilentDis> HS^, ok.  sounds like some weird incompatability somewhere.  try using the alternate install cd, it does things a bit differently, and can solve these kind of issues
[05:55] <xai> cld2: do you use any particular memory with those systems?
[05:55] <ubunturus> what i need is to kill modem via "kill" i think it may work
[05:55] <HS^> SilentDis what is the alternate install cd?
[05:55] <sHd0w> silentdis I keep getting the error unable to resolve hostname us.archive.ubuntu.com and before that apt-get wouldnt find software that I know is in the archives can you please help me
[05:55] <SilentDis> HS^, on the download page, there's options to download "desktop" "alternate" and "dvd" versions.  you chose the "desktop" version for the cd you have.  Choose the "alternate" version :)
[05:55] <ubunturus> when using wvdial for instance i tried ctrl - c when freezes but problem persists.. i need to kill the modem if there is some way
[05:56] <bieb> ubunturus find out what pid the modem is running on, then type killall -9 pid
[05:56] <pike_> ubunturus: sudo /etc/init.d/ppp restart or stop or start maybe? not sure if ppp is correct script..
[05:56] <cld2> xai: let me check my old p.o.
[05:56] <bieb> pike might be pppd
[05:56] <ham> #facinadus
[05:56] <SilentDis> sHd0w, could you run sudo apt-get update, and pastebin the output for me?
[05:56] <SilentDis> !pastebin | sHd0w
[05:56] <ubotu> sHd0w: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:56] <HS^> SilentDis yes , but does it have a different installer or something?
[05:57] <bieb> I am still having huge problems configuring Dialup on my father's laptop that I just installed 6.06 on. I am using wvdial, it connects to my isp, it tells me that pppd is on, and it has received local address and primary and secondary DNS addresses.. can anyone help?
[05:57] <ubunturus> i dont know that... thank you both... its a conexant driver
[05:57] <ubunturus> so i need to kill that.. how can i find the pid bieb?
[05:57] <cld2> xai: kingston
[05:57] <FurryNemesis> bleb, what's the modem?
[05:57] <SilentDis> HS^, you're not getting to the installer yet, you're just having problems booting it.  if you run that alternate cd, it boots up differently, so we can usually avoid the hang you're getting :)
[05:58] <marshall> whats the command to view all processes again?
[05:58] <cdubya> ps ax
[05:58] <SilentDis> marshall, ps -A
[05:58] <HS^> SilentDis ok.. ill try
[05:58] <HS^> SilentDis you here often? i ll tell you how that went
[05:58] <SilentDis> HS^, ok.  i'll be around a bit in here, should you still have issue :)
[05:59] <marshall> SilentDis, thanks
[05:59] <jbroome> !private message | xmOD
[05:59] <ubotu> xmOD: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[05:59] <bieb> ubunturus   sudo ps -e aux |more and look for wvdial and pppd, the second column is the pid
[05:59] <SilentDis> marshall, nt :)  check out man ps, it'll give you a full listing of 'em.  also, might wanna check into htop, very nice little program :)
[05:59] <ubunturus> ok bieb thank you a lot
[06:00] <bieb> no prob
[06:00] <marshall> SilentDis, htop you say (strokes beard) thanks
[06:00] <sHd0w> silentdis here is my output and sources.list file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/456/
[06:01] <SilentDis> !htop | marshall
[06:01] <krunchi192> SilentDis one more help needed about xkbcomp
[06:01] <ubotu> htop: interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.2-1 (edgy), package size 42 kB, installed size 172 kB
[06:01] <xmOD> !pastebin
[06:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:01] <SilentDis> krunchi192, ask the channel on that one.  i've not used it directly, sorry :(
[06:01] <sit_> hallo
[06:02] <Dicander_> Where do I set the screensaver picture folder?
[06:02] <sit_> guten abend
[06:02] <sHd0w> silentdis here is the output from sudo apt-get update and I also included my sources.list file syntax
[06:02] <sHd0w> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/456/
[06:03] <SilentDis> sHd0w, looks like something is blocking that machine from getting to ubuntu.com.
[06:03] <sit_> control management
[06:03] <Cherva> ok i want to shoot my self if anyone is going ot help me with the black screen on boot of ubuntu 6.10 pls tell me your skype / ICQ or whisp me
[06:03] <SilentDis> sHd0w, are you SSHed into that machine right now?
[06:03] <sHd0w> yes
[06:03] <SilentDis> Cherva, ask your question in channel, please
[06:03] <elyon> Here I am with another problem.  I'm trying to use gparted to resize some partitions, but its only showing one disk - my USB card reader
[06:03] <SilentDis> Cherva, i requested more info a couple times, you never responded
[06:03] <Cherva> when i boot with 6.10 ununto cd
[06:03] <cdubya> why would you get a bunch of job language info when you setup a printer as a network printer in cups and the driver is supported on both systems?
[06:04] <Cherva> when the gnome should come up
[06:04] <Cherva> BAM
[06:04] <SilentDis> !who | sHd0w
[06:04] <ubotu> sHd0w: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[06:04] <Cherva> black screen
[06:04] <_Astaroth_> how can i set amarok as standard player for audio files? atm its totem but i dont like that
[06:04] <SilentDis> !enter | Cherva
[06:04] <ubotu> Cherva: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:04] <cdubya> I can print to my Samsung printer now, but all it does it spit out test pages and any printout as the printer job control language.....
[06:04] <SilentDis> sHd0w, do you have a text-mode browser installed on it?  (lynx, elinks, etc)
[06:04] <Cherva> cant get a console with ctrl + alt +f1
[06:05] <sHd0w> yes
[06:05] <Cherva> cant do nothing
[06:05] <bieb> try ctrl+alt+F2
[06:05] <Cherva> tryed F1 - 12
[06:05] <bieb> or ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:05] <elyon> What do you guys use for downloading music?
[06:05] <Cherva> tryed thad too
[06:05] <jbroome> the internet
[06:05] <bieb> elyon.. IRC
[06:05] <ubunturus> bieb do i have to enter the number of the pid after number 9 in killall?
[06:06] <kr0n1x> formatting...what i need to backup? mail...bookmarks...chat logs...and???
[06:06] <bieb> yes.. killall -9 1234
[06:06] <SilentDis> sHd0w, try pinging/browsing to us.archive.ubuntu.com, as well as other sites.  does the machine connect to the internet at large?
[06:06] <elyon> bieb:  See, I was thinking more along the lines of a file sharing app ;)
[06:06] <SilentDis> elyon, I personally pay for emusic service, and just download drm-free mp3s legally :)
[06:06] <alex_> Hey what is the command to change PW?
[06:06] <ubunturus> ok thanks.. says no proces killed.. but i will try again
[06:06] <Cherva> I'll remobe the splash screen to see the error
[06:06] <ubunturus> pppd is 5068
[06:06] <ubunturus> so i wrote sudo killall -9 5068
[06:07] <sHd0w> yes
[06:07] <cdubya> haha, that's funny. the printer setup fine as a samba printer but not IPP
[06:07] <cdubya> heh
[06:07] <bieb> ubunturus  yes
[06:07] <carld> why doesn't this work? find . -name *.html
[06:08] <carld> find . -name index.html works
[06:08] <Cherva> the error is: "[SOME NUMBERS]  PCI: Cannot allocate resourcce region 3 of device 0000:05:00.0
[06:08] <SilentDis> carld, you're looking to list .html files in current directory, or system wide?
[06:08] <krunchi192> can anybody help me about xkbcomp -lhlpR * -o ../symbols.dir
[06:08] <sHd0w> w8 nvm i pinged google and it says unknown host google
[06:08] <Cherva> lol got a prompt
[06:08] <carld> SilenceGold, current directory and all subdirectories
[06:09] <Cherva> nope the prompt went away
[06:09] <Cherva> black screen again
[06:09] <SilentDis> sHd0w, looks like the machine is having problems accessing the 'net at large.  how are you connected to it?  lol
[06:09] <krunchi192> can anybody help me about xkbcomp -lhlpR * -o ../symbols.dir command, as i used it and now xserver is giving errors, how to revert it
[06:09] <carld> SilenceGold, actually looking to use the find -exec on all .html files
[06:09] <roniez> 3
[06:09] <xtknight> i thought killall took a process name and kill took a pid?
[06:09] <roniez> how can i change the charset for my terminal to iso8859-1?
[06:09] <roniez> i am not root
[06:09] <SilentDis> carld, i'm SilentDis, just fyi :)
[06:09] <sHd0w> I am wired in to my router
[06:10] <magical_trevsky> xtknight, it does, doesn't it?
[06:10] <xtknight> magical_trevsky: yeah, well i see Ubunturus said killall -9 pid and no one corrected him ;)
[06:10] <carld> SilentDis, sorry, damn tab complete gets me in trouble sometimes
[06:10] <SilentDis> carld, so you're looking to list all the .html files in current directory that are executible?
[06:10] <magical_trevsky> xtknight, ah ok
[06:10] <SilentDis> carld, no worries  on that, just gets hard for me to follow is all lol
[06:10] <bieb> xtknight  that was my bad.. I told him wrong
[06:11] <elyon> Here I am with another problem.  I'm trying to use gparted to resize some partitions, but its only showing one disk - my USB card reader.  Any ideas?
[06:11] <eXistenZ> amarok is nice
[06:11] <carld> SilentDis, find . -name *.html -exec sed -i 's!</head>!<link rel="icon"...
[06:11] <bibek> hi room, how do in change the default font size of most gtk applications ?? im not on gnome or kde
[06:11] <rukuartic> Hi everyone. I was wondering if anyone knew how to do global quotas... EG: 100 MB of files on any disk. I know using edquota can set file space on individual drives, but I'm thinking globally.
[06:11] <bieb> I am still having huge problems configuring Dialup on my father's laptop that I just installed 6.06 on. I am using wvdial, it connects to my isp, it tells me that pppd is on, and it has received local address and primary and secondary DNS addresses.. can anyone help?
[06:12] <rukuartic> bieb: Not an expert with dialup, but it seems that everything you need is up...
[06:13] <carld> SilentDis, find *.html -exec sed -i 's!</head>!<link....  Worked as expected in the current directory, now I want to apply sed to any .html file in the currenty and subdirectories
[06:13] <bieb> rukuartic thats what I thought too, but no websites show up... and I have the modem monitor tool in the toolbar, it gives me 0:00 for time connected
[06:14] <SilentDis> carld, *hair is messed up as question flies over head* ok, from the inital description you gave, i thought that was something else.  the command you just posted is a wee bit outside of my realm yet, unfortunatly.  but, i'd think you'd need to encapsulate the sed command in a set of quotes, as you've got more quotes inside the search paramater.
[06:14] <kps_> what's wrong with the command "sudo mount -t loop foo.iso /mnt/dvd"
[06:14] <kps_> it used to work
[06:14] <kps_> i have the default ubuntu kernel
[06:14] <bieb> ubunturus any luck?
[06:15] <kps_> i get mount: unknown filesystem type 'loop'
[06:15] <Cherva> how can i fix this black screen on boot gime me some help with no splah there is an error "[SOME NUMBERS]  PCI: Cannot allocate resourcce region 3 of device 0000:05:00.0
[06:15] <xtknight> bieb: post 'ifconfig -a' in pastebin
[06:15] <carld> kps_, that should work, what error do you get
[06:15] <Cherva> how can i fix this black screen on boot gime me some help with no splah there is an error "[SOME NUMBERS]  PCI: Cannot allocate resourcce region 3 of device 0000:05:00.0
[06:15] <SilentDis> kps_, there's no /mnt/dvd, unless you created it :)
[06:15] <kps_> i get unknown file system type loop, and it used to work
[06:15] <xtknight> Cherva: do you have a core 2 duo system?
[06:15] <aoupi> ok.... sudo is good.... just removed a song from a friends public_html
[06:16] <aoupi> backups are good too :)
[06:16] <rukuartic> bieb: Try typing "ifconfig -a" and seeing what comes up... Compare that with "ifconfig". Is the interface active?
[06:16] <kps_> and i have a directory /mnt/dvd
[06:16] <carld> SilentDis, Actually I had to encapsulate the *.html in "*.html"  now it works fine.  Thanks
[06:16] <elyon> Here I am with another problem.  I'm trying to use gparted to resize some partitions, but its only showing one disk - my USB card reader.  Any ideas?
[06:16] <kps_> anyway it used to work, but suddenly it just stopped working a few days ago
[06:16] <the_amo> hvhv
[06:16] <the_amo> mtherfuckerz
[06:16] <SilentDis> kps_, and, you've gotta specify the type and option.  sudo mount /path/to/file.iso /some/where -t iso9660 -o loop
[06:16] <bieb> xtknight I can manually enter it.. I dont have that machine online :)
[06:16] <xtknight> bieb: yeah guess ull have to :p
[06:17] <SilentDis> carld, sorry i wasn't more help, but I'm glad you got it fixed :)
[06:17] <Cherva> how can i fix this black screen on boot give me me some help with no splah there is an error "[SOME NUMBERS]  PCI: Cannot allocate resourcce region 3 of device 0000:05:00.0
[06:17] <xtknight> bieb: just do it for the interface in question then
[06:17] <kps_> SilentDis, ok i can try
[06:17] <xtknight> Cherva: do you have a core 2 duo system?
[06:17] <Cherva> no
[06:17] <Cherva> Amd64
[06:17] <kps_> oh man
[06:17] <xtknight> Cherva: amd dual core?
[06:17] <kps_> problem was that i was supposed to use -o and not -t
[06:17] <Cherva> no
[06:17] <kps_> ok thanks :)
[06:17] <kps_> sudo mount -o loop foo.iso /mnt/dvd  works
[06:18] <SilentDis> kps_, lol no troubles, glad it worked for you :)
[06:18] <sHd0w> SilentDis, 1 I will reformat the machine then try again
[06:18] <bieb> xtknight and rukuartic ifconfig returns: ppp0 with an IP address from my isp
[06:18] <xtknight> this is driving me nuts.  can anyone tell me how to make totem obey the default alsa soudn device?  do i need to change something in gstreamer?
[06:18] <Cherva> i have Amd64, GeForce 6200 on PCI-E
[06:18] <Dicander_> What keyboard setting works for a MacBook pro?
[06:18] <SilentDis> sHd0w, that's rather drastic, but if it's a fresh install, can't hurt.  did it ever have access to the 'net?
[06:19] <Dicander_> All keys work, even the swedish ones, but not alt+gr
[06:19] <kps_> ok later
[06:19] <sHd0w> silentdis yes before I edited the sources.list file
[06:19] <SilentDis> sHd0w, curious... have you tried just rebooting the machine?
[06:20] <xtknight> bieb: can you ping the ip given by your isp?
[06:20] <xmOD> !mp4
[06:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:20] <sHd0w> silentdis yes
[06:20] <bieb> one sec
[06:20] <elyon> Could someone please help me out with gparted?  I can't figure out how to resize my Windows partition (the Resize option is grayed out)
[06:20] <SilentDis> sHd0w, hmm...  weirdo permissions on the router?  a restriction perhaps?
[06:20] <xtknight> elyon: is the windows partition mounted
[06:21] <elyon> xtknight:  Yes.  I assume that's the problem?
[06:21] <xtknight> elyon: yeah it must be unmounted
[06:21] <elyon> xtknight:  Thank you.
[06:21] <elyon> xtknight:  Actually... I thought it was, but its not showing up in my file system anymore.
[06:21] <bieb> xtknight there are 2 addresses in ifconfig, the inet addr can not ping it.. and p-t-p addr can ping it
[06:22] <xtknight> bieb: ptp? hmm i havent been keeping up on dialup lately
[06:22] <sHd0w> silentdis i have been able to connect to mysql from outside my router so dont think it's the router
[06:22] <xtknight> elyon: type 'mount' to verify if its mounted anywhere
[06:22] <rukuartic> xtknight: point-to-point, I think.
[06:22] <rukuartic> sHd0w: Do you have your permissions set up propperly?
[06:22] <eXistenZ> xtknight, What email client do you use?
[06:23] <elyon> xtknight:  No, it isn't there.
[06:23] <xtknight> hmm ptp would that be the gateway ?
[06:23] <rukuartic> sHd0w: You might find that the user you created can only log in from localhost.
[06:23] <xtknight> eXistenZ: evolution
[06:23] <sHd0w> I was logged in as root
[06:23] <SilentDis> sHd0w, what i'm suggesting is that there might be permissions somewhere on the router that prohibits access on port 80 or some such, either bound to the MAC of that machine, or it's IP.
[06:23] <bieb> ptp-- point to point..  at the top of the ppp0 output it says: Link encap:Point-to-point Protocol
[06:23] <xtknight> elyon: is your gparted compiled with ntfs-resize support?  check file->features or something like that, it says somewhere
[06:23] <rukuartic> sHd0w: Here, what are you trying to do?
[06:23] <tuxi> hi
[06:23] <rukuartic> tuxi: Hey
[06:24] <sHd0w> I am trying to run a webserver
[06:24] <tuxi> i ahve a problem with software raid1 und feisty
[06:24] <Dicander_> How do i map alt to the right apple key?
[06:24] <sHd0w> and need to install apps such as webalzer courier ect and when i tried to apt-get them they werent there
[06:24] <tuxi> i cant boot my system
[06:24] <elyon> xtknight:  I don't see that info anywhere...
[06:24] <rukuartic> sHd0w: Ok, Comcast blocks port 80, so that's going to be a little difficult to do.
[06:24] <bieb> tuxi feisty talk is at #ubuntu+1
[06:24] <daedra> Hello. I have no idea how to select only one speaker to tweak in alsamixer (commandline)
[06:24] <xtknight> elyon: GParted->Features
[06:25] <xtknight> elyon: you need grow or shrink support on ntfs depending on what you wish to do
[06:25] <tuxi> i have make a dist-upgrade in chroot for few minutes
[06:25] <tuxi> and no changes
[06:25] <xtknight> elyon: my edgy repo version does not have ntfs resize support
[06:25] <elyon> xtknight:  Actually, I used Add/Remove to install gparted, but this says qtparted.
[06:25] <rukuartic> daedra: I think Q and E is left/right + and Z / C is l/r -
[06:25] <sHd0w> I forwarded port 80 to my server and was able to see the apache default page from outside my network
[06:25] <xtknight> elyon: hmm?
[06:25] <nightfreak> what to do when the software-index is broken?
[06:25] <calum`> hiya...simple question: how do I get a script to run (as root) at boot?
[06:25] <xtknight> elyon: so which one are you running now?  ps ax | grep parted
[06:25] <tuxi> i use xfs filesystem
[06:26] <bieb> xtknight any ideas?
[06:26] <sHd0w> my reformat just finished i setup a lamp server
[06:26] <daedra> rukuartic: thanks
[06:26] <xtknight> bieb: sorry, not really, not a dialup user.
[06:26] <rukuartic> calum`: Check /etc/rc.local
[06:26] <eclyptox> search qt
[06:26] <xtknight> bieb: maybe check your route
[06:26] <elyon> xtknight:  19407 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep parted
[06:26] <rukuartic> sHd0w: Ok, so you've got port 80. And you can access it from outside the router
[06:26] <xtknight> elyon: is that the only thing listed when you type that?
[06:26] <bieb> me either.. just trying to convert my dad from Win2k to Ubuntu and all they have in his area is dialup
[06:26] <elyon> xtknight:  yes.
[06:26] <sHd0w> rukuartic, yes
[06:27] <calum`> thanks, rukuartic
[06:27] <sHd0w> I am installing lynx now
[06:27] <rukuartic> sHd0w: Ok, but the problem is, (if I heard it right) that you can't access mysql outside of the box?
[06:27] <xtknight> elyon: hmm it doesnt look as though it's running at all..
[06:27] <xtknight> elyon: lol
[06:27] <elyon> xtknight:  I obviously messed up again... installed the wrong thing ;)
[06:27] <xtknight> !dialup
[06:28] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[06:28] <haxality> hello, I'm having a problem with my keyboard map.
[06:28] <sHd0w> The problem is that i cant apt-get the applications I need and i know they are in the repositories because i checked
[06:28] <haxality> I'm using something of an obscure wireless USB keyboard
[06:28] <jshriver> Anyone know of a program that can generate 3d tree graphs?
[06:28] <elyon> xtknight:  How do I install it?
[06:28] <sHd0w> i just reformated so I have no unchanged files
[06:28] <jshriver> been looking into dotty but looks like it handles just 2d
[06:28] <haxality> and when I type with it, some of the keys act as a number pad
[06:28] <haxality> but only when I'm logged in
[06:28] <xtknight> elyon: sudo apt-get install gparted
[06:28] <haxality> in GDM, it sees them fine
[06:28] <SilentDis> oh god, just what the world needs:  Avis is turning all their rental cars into WiFi hotspots using a 3g-to-802.11 bridge.  now we'll have idiots surfing in their cars as they fly down the busy interstate at 70mph :P
[06:29] <haxality> I have no idea how to fix this, since changing the keyboard layout doesn't do anything
[06:29] <elyon> xtknight:  Gotcha... thanks.
[06:29] <sHd0w> rukuartic, http://customwebsitez.com I have the dns pointing to my  webserevrs ip
[06:29] <rukuartic> sHd0w: Try using source-o-matic to get a sources.list
[06:29] <sHd0w> rukuartic how do I do that??
[06:29] <elyon> xtknight:  Okay... checked features and it does NOT allow grow/shrink for ntfs.
[06:29] <rukuartic> sHd0w: What happens when you try to "apt-get install <some software name>"?
[06:30] <xtknight> elyon: alright.  you can compile a new version from the source/cvs if you wish
[06:30] <sHd0w> it works
[06:30] <elyon> xtknight:  Would you recommend a noob like me do that?
[06:30] <xtknight> elyon: there's always a first time
[06:30] <rukuartic> sHd0w: Sorry. I'm lost man, what's the problem again?
[06:30] <sHd0w> but not apt-get webalizer doesnt work neither does courier
[06:30] <xtknight> elyon: ill guide u through it, im gonna try and do it as well as i'd also like that feature
[06:30] <haxality> does anyone know of any tutorials on adding a keyboard map?
[06:30] <rukuartic> sHd0w: Ok, I think those are in the global repositories.
[06:30] <vader> !keyboard map
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keyboard map - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <rukuartic> sHd0w: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ go here, and you should be able to get what you need. It will generate a sources.list
[06:31] <elyon> xtknight:  Sounds good.
[06:31] <rukuartic> sHd0w: Place those files into /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:31] <xtknight> elyon: grab the latest source code of gparted off their website
[06:31] <rukuartic> sHd0w: Type in "apt-get update" and then you should be able to "apt-get install webalizer"
[06:31] <xtknight> elyon: should be version 0.3.3, we're not using cvs (absolute latest) at this point.  cvs is sometimes too new and contains bugs
[06:32] <elyon> xtknight:  Okay, I have 0.3.3 saved to my desktop
[06:32] <sHd0w> should I include source repositories??
[06:32] <rukuartic> elyon: You might find it easier to just use some windows application to resize your hard drive...
[06:32] <xtknight> elyon: ok, bz2 version?
[06:32] <rukuartic> sHd0w: Probably not.
[06:32] <elyon> xtknight:  yes.
[06:33] <xtknight> elyon: cd to your desktop in the terminal and extract the bz2
[06:33] <Roconda> hey, my splash screen doesn't show on a boot up, it does show when I shut my computer down. how to solve it so it will show by the boot?
[06:33] <elyon> xtknight:  What is the command to extract it? :/
[06:33] <xtknight> elyon: extract a bz2: tar -xjvf <file.tar.bz2>
[06:34] <haxality> ugh.
[06:34] <blekos> hi, i wanttoremove the evolution, but when i check it for removal it requests i remove the ubuntu-desktop as well (44k??)
[06:34] <elyon> xtknight:  Done
[06:35] <xtknight> elyon: tar is a compresion program, and the xjvf... j means extract bz2, v means verbose (print extra info), x means extract, and f means use a specified file (as opposed to other complicated stuff)
[06:35] <Roconda> food :w
[06:35] <xtknight> elyon: ok cd to the extracted directory
[06:35] <elyon> xtknight:  Done.
[06:35] <xtknight> elyon: now let me figure out the best way to do this
[06:35] <rukuartic> !de > blekos
[06:36] <rukuartic> blekos: I don't think thats a problem... Not sure though.
[06:36] <xtknight> elyon: lets uninstall our old gparted first
[06:36] <xtknight> elyon: sudo apt-get remove gparted
[06:36] <feihung> I have printer shared with ubuntu and I want windows to print to this printer, but in windows it's always show access denied what permission that I should change in ubuntu ?
[06:36] <daedra> zomg 976 people
[06:36] <elyon> xtknight:  Okay.  Done.
[06:38] <xtknight> elyon: we need a special library with source code to compile the new version.  it so happens Edgy has it in the repositories.  type 'sudo apt-get install libparted1.7-dev'
[06:38] <kazuka> hi
[06:38] <rukuartic> kazuka: Heyo
[06:38] <kazuka> how do i ssh into another machine
[06:38] <elyon> xtknight:  Done.
[06:38] <kazuka> rukuartic: do you know how to ssh into another machine
[06:38] <kazuka> ssh -t ip.address?
[06:39] <xtknight> elyon: we need one more thing.  'sudo apt-get install libgtkmm-2.4-dev'
[06:39] <rukuartic> kazuka: Yup. First the computer has to be running a SSH Server. If it is, just type "ssh (your username)@(the IP address)"
[06:39] <sHd0w> kazuka I would reccomend using putty
[06:39] <elyon> xtknight:  Done.
[06:39] <sHd0w> and type in ip click ssh then click connect
[06:39] <rukuartic> sHd0w: You could use putty, but Ubuntu has its own ssh client built in.
[06:39] <xtknight> elyon: basically what im doing to figure out these dependencies is running through the source code's configure script (we'll get to that in a second).  it tells me if im missing anything.  and then i find what it says i need in the repositories or on the web
[06:39] <kazuka> what is putty
[06:40] <rukuartic> xtknight: I love doing that. Its fun.
[06:40] <elyon> xtknight:  I was curious how you decided we needed those :)
[06:40] <slicky> putty is a girl
[06:40] <xtknight> indeed !
[06:40] <xtknight> elyon: alright, now that you are in the ~/Desktop/gparted-0.3.3 directory (right?)
[06:40] <elyon> xtknight:  Yes.
[06:40] <rukuartic> kazuka: Its a SSH Client. But you shouldn't need it. Ubuntu has that built in. Did it work?
[06:40] <xtknight> elyon: type '  ./configure '
[06:40] <xtknight> elyon: configure is almost always the first step in compiling anything, sometimes its something else called autogen but we wont worry about that for now
[06:41] <xtknight> elyon: you do need the ./ to indicate that configure is located in the current directory
[06:41] <elyon> xtknight:   error: *** uuid library (libuuid) not found
[06:41] <xtknight> elyon: ah another dependency
[06:41] <xtknight> elyon: isnt this fun ;)
[06:41] <mharding> anyone able to help me setup beryl
[06:41] <elyon> xtknight:  :)  I suppose so.  It'll take a lot of getting used to
[06:41] <xtknight> elyon: search for it in synaptic and see if you can install it.  most of the dependencies end in -dev
[06:41] <rukuartic> elyon: You might be able to find things for yourself :P Try, "apt-cache search libuuid" And you want the package that ends in -dev. Good on you for learning :D
[06:42] <deathplanter> what was the package name of apache+php+mysql combo?
[06:42] <xtknight> !lamp | deathplanter
[06:42] <ubotu> deathplanter: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:42] <mharding> xtknight: can you help me with my wireless card problem today
[06:42] <elyon> rukuartic:  Thanks... found and installed it :)
[06:42] <xtknight> mharding: yeah
[06:42] <elyon> xtknight:  Got it.. its installed.  Run ./configure again?
[06:42] <xtknight> mharding: where did you get to
[06:42] <xtknight> elyon: yup
[06:43] <elyon> xtknight:  Okay... done.  No errors.
[06:43] <xtknight> elyon: good!  type 'make'  this is the second step
[06:43] <kazuka> hey guys anyone using sgi
[06:43] <xtknight> elyon: then the cpu will crunch all of the source code and youll end up with an executable...but that's not quite the end
[06:44] <mharding> I have a gnome wireless program that picks up the wireless but it still does connect
[06:44] <elyon> xtknight:  Now, why didn't I need the ./ in front of that?  Does make automatically assume the current directory?
[06:44] <xtknight> elyon: this is one of the easiest and most cooperative pieces of source code youll ever have to compile :P
[06:44] <xtknight> elyon: actually thats a good question...one i dont know the answer to.  LOl
[06:44] <elyon> xtknight:  haha, okay :P
[06:44] <xtknight> umm hmm lets see
[06:44] <xtknight> elyon: make is not actually a file
[06:45] <xtknight> elyon: well, not in the current directory
[06:45] <xtknight> elyon: its a program located in your system files that points to a file called 'Makefile' in your current directory.  that file must be called "Makefile" so that you can just type "make"
[06:45] <deepsa> adaptr, sup
[06:45] <X|Rolando> Howdy folks, I'm having some trouble with samba between ubuntu edgy and windows xp. I have them connected via cat6s and a gigabit switch and if I browse, send & recieve files using the windows machine it works ok
[06:45] <elyon> xtknight:  Right... I get it now.  But when you type make, it looks in the current directory for the source automaticalkly?
[06:45] <mharding> xtknight: wifi radar is the program
[06:45] <xtknight> elyon: yea
[06:46] <xtknight> mharding: ok, hmm.  type 'iwevent' and watch for wireless events
[06:46] <X|Rolando> but when I use ubuntu to browse files on the windows machine, it goes via the internet rather than just the switch
[06:46] <kazuka> ok so how do i transfer files from one machine to the other
[06:46] <aoupi> is there an app that keeps track of total upload/download?
[06:46] <Zaggynl> X|Rolando, how do you know it goes via the internet?
[06:46] <xtknight> elyon: you're picking this up very well by the way
[06:46] <X|Rolando> Zaggynl, it slows down to roughly my upload speed :P
[06:47] <X|Rolando> which is 1.5-3 Mbps
[06:47] <Zaggynl> X|Rolando, ah, that's a good one
[06:47] <elyon> xtknight:  Thanks!  I have a lot of computer experience... just very new to Linux.
[06:47] <mharding> xtknight: I get an ip and it connects
[06:47] <malt> yo my computer makes a some weird soudn everynow and then, and in bios one fan shows 3000, and the other one shows 2,000, does it sound like one of my pc fans is going out?
[06:47] <xtknight> mharding: hows your signal strength?  check with iwconfig
[06:47] <X|Rolando> Zaggynl, common problem or are you kidding? ;P
[06:47] <Zaggynl> X|Rolando, you tried connecting on LAN address? (assuming you're working on a LAN)
[06:47] <sHd0w> rukuartic, thanks alot man ive been having problems with this for 3 days thanks so much man
[06:47] <malt> sorry, wrong chan
[06:48] <X|Rolando> Zaggynl, the thing is they both have individual IPs (External ones)
[06:48] <kazuka> sHd0w: do you know how to transfer files from one machine to the other using ethernet
[06:48] <Zaggynl> X|Rolando, but they are on the same LAN?
[06:48] <elyon> xtknight:  Okay, its done compiling?
[06:48] <X|Rolando> Zaggynl, same physical network
[06:48] <xtknight> elyon: alright.  the next step is 'sudo make install'   dont forget the sudo in there
[06:48] <aoupi> nevermind, I found vnstat
[06:48] <Zaggynl> X|Rolando, you could try to put them in the same subnet
[06:48] <elyon> xtknight:  Done.
[06:49] <sHd0w> kazuka like on a network??
[06:49] <xtknight> elyon: lol you know, we should have made sure we compiled this with ntfs support first.  let me see i think it does by default
[06:49] <X|Rolando> Zaggynl, what does that mean?
[06:49] <tgrora> I have Ubuntu 5.04 + arabic fonts installed, but why I can't see the arabic chars in X-Chat?
[06:49] <Winter-1> how do i get a mic to work
[06:49] <mharding> xtknight: I sent u a private msg
[06:50] <elyon> xtknight:  If it does it by default, why wouldn't the original install have supported it?
[06:50] <xtknight> elyon: drat!  this one doesnt have ntfs resize either... well at least we compiled something.
[06:50] <nwf_> i m having problems with windows look
[06:50] <Zaggynl> X|Rolando, Well, for example: if computer A has the LAN address 192.168.2.1, you could give computer B 192.168.2.2
[06:50] <xtknight> elyon: there may be options in configure that we can specify, let me check
[06:50] <nwf_> main bar is in a worng place
[06:50] <Zaggynl> X|Rolando, Assuming both addresses are not in use yet
[06:50] <Winter-1> someone
[06:50] <Winter-1> :(
[06:50] <Spaghetti_Knife> Hi, can anybody help me find out which version of java i'm using?
[06:50] <X|Rolando> Zaggynl, I see what you mean
[06:50] <Spaghetti_Knife> I'm wondering about my JRE.
[06:50] <tgrora> ?
[06:51] <xtknight> mharding: hmm, i didn't get it :P
[06:51] <aoupi> Spaghetti_Knife: ls -l /etc/alternatives/java
[06:51] <jhaitas> why do you need to see arabic characters?
[06:51] <tgrora> any ideas?
[06:51] <klaus> i need some help with installing pychess
[06:51] <X|Rolando> Zaggynl, Unfortunately I play games alot on one and host servers on the other and I would hate to not be able to connect to them easily
[06:51] <aoupi> Spaghetti_Knife: you should get something like lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 2006-10-07 23:22 /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[06:51] <jhaitas> you planning something?
[06:51] <X|Rolando> Zaggynl, do you think two nics would be an option?
[06:51] <mharding> xtknight: mharding@mharding-laptop:~$ iwevent
[06:51] <mharding> Waiting for Wireless Events from interfaces...
[06:51] <mharding> 14:18:23.122694   eth1     Set ESSID:"hardings"
[06:51] <mharding> 14:18:23.122993   eth1     Set Encryption key:****-****-****-****-****-****-**   Security mode:open
[06:51] <mharding> 14:18:23.123021   eth1     Set Mode:Auto
[06:51] <mharding> 14:18:23.123161   eth1     Set Frequency=2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
[06:51] <mharding> 14:18:23.666383   eth1     Association Request IEs:000868617264696E6773010882848B962430486C210208122402010E32040C121860DD06004096010100DD09001018020010000000
[06:51] <mharding> 14:18:23.666448   eth1     Association Response IEs:010882848B962430486C32040C121860
[06:51] <xtknight> elyon: you know what's odd?  NTFS resize is listed as supported on this page.  maybe we compiled it with another outdated library.  http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
[06:51] <aoupi> !paste
[06:51] <mharding> 14:18:23.666468   eth1     New Access Point/Cell address:00:13:A3:08:8E:BD
[06:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:52] <mharding> ok
[06:52] <Spaghetti_Knife> aoupi: Thanks.
[06:52] <xtknight> elyon: see, even im learning stuff.  well i will see if we just need an updated ntfsprogs, that's probably the issue
[06:52] <Zaggynl> X|Rolando, Shouldn't be a problem, just make sure you have the ports forwarded to it's new address on the gaming PC
[06:52] <nwf_> main bar of my gnome windows is seperated of window,  any ideia why ?
[06:52] <xtknight> mharding: well it looks like it's sort of working
[06:53] <xtknight> mharding: what about ifconfig, you have an ip any everything?
[06:53] <mharding> yup
[06:53] <rizo> Hi
[06:53] <exhav0k> hi, how can i figuer out where my modem is located... as in, /dev/...what
[06:53] <klaus> what's the easiest way of installing ############################################
[06:53] <klaus> what's the easiest way of installing ### Experimental - only for the fearless ###
[06:53] <klaus> ############################################
[06:53] <klaus> deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ experimental main
[06:53] <xtknight> mharding: well, can you ping your router?
[06:53] <klaus> GTK+ version 2.8.x.
[06:54] <jesse> i was expecting for ubuntu 6.10 to be much better.
[06:54] <rizo> How can i get the startup and shutdown screens look like previous ubuntu breezy screens?
[06:54] <exhav0k> klaus: what is the file type?
[06:54] <mharding> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/462/
[06:54] <tgrora> I am downloading a big file, and I gotta leave in few.. can I continue downloading it another time?
[06:54] <bieb> exhav0k is your system connected to the internet at all?
[06:54] <jesse> i just wasted another cd
[06:54] <mharding> I have to take out the wired cable to try it
[06:54] <klaus> exhav0k: what filetype?
[06:54] <nobodyLV> ok... offtopic. Is there anybody whos birth language is english? My english sucks badly and I need to write annotation for master work. I did it, but maybe anybody could help me with style? There is only a half of A4 list!
[06:54] <exhav0k> bieb: nope, im using magic to talk to you right now
[06:54] <exhav0k> bieb: just kidding
[06:54] <mharding> is there a way to switch the connection on the fly
[06:54] <deepsa> nobodyLV, i can help
[06:54] <scoates> hi. my system simply won't boot.. I don't know what to check. It looks like it hangs before init ... help?
[06:54] <scoates> (please)
[06:54] <xtknight> mharding: i'm not sure about that.  linux usually just uses whatever's available
[06:54] <Roconda> hey, my splash screen doesn't show on a boot up, it does show when I shut my computer down. how to solve it so it will show by the boot???
[06:55] <X|Rolando> Zaggynl, thanks for the info, I'll ponder over my options :P
[06:55] <nobodyLV> deepsa: ok
[06:55] <Winter-1> can someone please tell me how to get a microphone to work
[06:55] <Zaggynl> X|Rolando, You're welcome, happy pondering ;)
[06:55] <mharding> ok
[06:55] <xtknight> mharding: try ifdown eth0   ?
[06:55] <bieb> exhav0k didnt know if you were on the same machine you are trying to discover your modem on
[06:55] <deepsa> Winter-1, ya sure
[06:55] <xtknight> mharding: `sudo ifdown eth0` rather
[06:55] <exhav0k> bieb: im trying to connect my dreamcast to the internet through a modem-to-modem connction and i just need to know how to find what my modem's dev/...whatever is
[06:55] <exhav0k> bieb: yeah, i know, i was just kidding around
[06:55] <exhav0k> klaus: does whatever file you're trying to install end with a .deb
[06:55] <scoates> I'm running the LiveCD now, and I can mount the "broken" partition. I fscked it
[06:55] <klaus> exhav0k: I have one .deb package which requires some other files and I can find them
 i put the mic in the jack but no sound comes from the speakers
[06:56] <exhav0k> klaus: can you get the other files from wherever you got the .deb from?
[06:56] <deepsa> Winter-1, how you test the recording? sudo apt-get audacity
[06:56] <rizo> How can i get the startup and shutdown screens look like previous ubuntu breezy screens? Anyone have an idea or point me in the right direction
[06:56] <xtknight> elyon: it turns out all we needed was the 'ntfsprogs' package to support NTFS operations.  it probably would have worked with the original gparted, but we got a new one as a bonus now.  you'll want to create shortcuts to the new one.  the install script should list where gparted is now located
[06:56] <Zaggynl> Winter-1, have you made sure the mic channel is not muted?
[06:56] <klaus> exhav0k: namely GTK+ version 2.8.x.
[06:56] <Winter-1> deepsa, how do i do that?
[06:57] <deepsa> Winter-1, do this >> sudo apt-get install audacity
[06:57] <elyon> xtknight:  I haven't installed the new one yet, just did the make install
[06:57] <bieb> exhav0k go here and download the scanmodem tool, works great  http://132.68.73.235/linmodems/index.html#scanmodem
[06:57] <exhav0k> bieb: do you know how to see what /dev/... it is?  cause im trying to configure minicom with the serial device and i want to put in the modem's id
[06:57] <Winter-1> k
[06:57] <nobodyLV> deepsa: http://fuck.nobody.lv/annotation.odt
[06:57] <xtknight> elyon: ok.  do you notice what it says after make install?  it lists the location of the new app
[06:57] <Winter-1> deepsa done
[06:58] <deepsa> Winter-1, type audacity
[06:58] <exhav0k> klaus, can you see what version of gnome you have by going under system and looking at about gnome
[06:58] <Winter-1> deepsa k
[06:58] <elyon> xtknight:  "/usr/local/share/applications/gparted.desktop' that one?
[06:58] <derron> why
[06:58] <xtknight> elyon: that's what's supposed to be the shortcut.
[06:58] <xtknight> elyon: it is slightly cryptic.  but you can see where it says a directory containing 'bin'.  this is the one containing binaries, and thus the one where the gparted binary is placed
[06:58] <truz_`24> apparently vi is diff on the new version of ubuntu, how do i get into the old "insert" mode where backspace will remove characters and such?
[06:59] <derron> why
[06:59] <klaus> exhav0k: 2.14.3
[06:59] <derron> can I ask something?
[06:59] <frying_fish> truz_`24: press i ?
[06:59] <Zaggynl> !ask > derron
[06:59] <Winter-1> deepsa i record but all i hear is a buzzing
[06:59] <derron> what should I ask?
[06:59] <kazuka> is ssh limited to local lan or is it publicly available when doing remote sshing?
[06:59] <xtknight> elyon: youll notice that when you type 'gparted' in the console you get an error, don't you?  we can fix that as well
[06:59] <deepsa> Winter-1, try to adjust the settings in audacity
[06:59] <elyon> xtknight:  I see a lot of /bin/ entries toward the end of make install
[06:59] <truz_`24> frying_fish, when i press i, it doesn't show the "-insert-" text and backspace doesn't remove characters....
[06:59] <Zaggynl> !ask
[06:59] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:59] <exhav0k> klaus, then i think you should be fine... that's above 2.8, no?
[06:59] <kazuka> !ask
[06:59] <frying_fish> truz_`24: I might just be thinking of vim rather than vi then
[06:59] <kazuka> !ssh
[06:59] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:00] <derron> what should I ask?
[07:00] <bieb> exhav0k you can open the networking and have it scan for your modem, it will tell you. It may be symlinked to /dev/modem, or it will be dev/ttyS*
[07:00] <xtknight> elyon: ok.  it is under /usr/local/bin/
[07:00] <exhav0k> bieb: is there not some program that ubuntu comes with to do it?
[07:00] <truz_`24> frying_fish, that did it then :-)
[07:00] <elyon> xtknight:  ok
[07:00] <Fireal> LameBMX: i figured out how to delete files in sub-directories!
[07:00] <kazuka> !smb
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <kazuka> !nfs
[07:00] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:00] <deepsa> nobodyLV, what i need to do
[07:00] <truz_`24> frying_fish, i used vim command, and it works just like it used to, thanks (btw, what is the diff between vi and vim?)
[07:00] <elyon> xtknight:  What error am I supposed to be getting?
[07:00] <Winter-1> Zaggynl how would i unmute my mic
[07:00] <daedra> !samba
[07:00] <xtknight> elyon: it's the line with install -c and bin on it (that tells you where gparted is located)
[07:00] <derron> I want to ask a question
[07:00] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:00] <derron> I want to ask a question
[07:00] <Zaggynl> Winter-1, are you familiar with alsamixer?
[07:00] <xtknight> elyon: ok.  now type 'gparted' in the console...at least im getting an error that i want to fix
[07:00] <daedra> !ask
[07:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:01] <frying_fish> truz_`24: vim is the improved vi editor from what I know.
[07:01] <Fireal> derron: shoot
[07:01] <truz_`24> i see
[07:01] <Winter-1> Zaggynl i think i used it once but my settings never saved
[07:01] <truz_`24> on the old version of ubuntu, they use vim
[07:01] <nobodyLV> deepsa: chek and correct my style, please :)
[07:01] <Music_Shuffle> On Gnome, why do windows sometimes...black out?
[07:01] <truz_`24> on 6.10 server they are using VI
[07:01] <derron> what should I ask?
[07:01] <Music_Shuffle> For lack of better phrasing?
[07:01] <deepsa> nobodyLV, what style its russian
[07:01] <TheGateKeeper> Fireal: he is a troll
[07:01] <truz_`24> not sure why they made that change... purists I guess
[07:01] <elyon> xtknight:  I'm getting GTK warnings that I've gotten a few times before.  And gparted started, but has been scanning devices for a long time now.
[07:01] <wyld> !suse
[07:01] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[07:01] <nobodyLV> deepsa: no... Latvian... books was in russian
[07:01] <Fireal> what is a troll?
[07:01] <derron> I want to ask a question
[07:01] <xtknight> elyon: never mind, i just had to start a new terminal.  i no longer get the error.  when you start a new terminal it loads a new PATH, and that's what we had to do for gparted to register properly.  now all we need to do is 'sudo gparted' to start it
[07:02] <deepsa> nobodyLV, wtf i cant do that sorry
[07:02] <derron> I want to ask a question
[07:02] <xtknight> elyon: gksudo gparted    actually, for GNOME apps
[07:02] <wyld> derron then ask
[07:02] <nobodyLV> deepsa: mkay
[07:02] <Zaggynl> Fireal, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
[07:02] <xtknight> elyon: and have you installed ntfsprogs?
[07:02] <derron> what should I ask?
[07:02] <elyon> xtknight:  I ran sudo gparted
[07:02] <wyld> somthing relating to linux
[07:02] <Zaggynl> How do you notify the ops in here?
[07:02] <derron> why
[07:02] <ac2N> jhi !
[07:02] <elyon> xtknight:  And it is STILL scanning devices...
[07:02] <Fireal> Zaggynl thanks
[07:02] <ac2N> happy new year !!
[07:02] <deepsa> Zaggynl, !ops
[07:02] <wyld> derron: cause this is a linux channel
[07:02] <TheGateKeeper> gnomefreak: we got a troll in here
[07:02] <ac2N> i have a question
[07:02] <xtknight> elyon: that's 99% of the time fine, gksudo is what we should use though
[07:02] <derron> why
[07:02] <Winter-1> Zaggynl ok so i unmuted the mic and i hear it but how do i save the settings so next time i dont have to do it
[07:03] <derron> I want to ask a question
[07:03] <Zaggynl> Winter-1, press ESC, that should save it
[07:03] <Zaggynl> !ops
[07:03] <wyld> I think derron is a bot, kick him
[07:03] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[07:03] <derron> why
[07:03] <Seveas> Zaggynl, ?
[07:03] <ac2N> how can I set the automount for my usb key (how can i change mount option ...) ?
[07:03] <derron> I want to ask a question
[07:03] <elyon> xtknight:  Should I kill GParted?  Its just sitting here and still says "Scanning all devices"
[07:03] <Zaggynl> derron, is a troll, asking the same questions over and over again
[07:03] <Winter-1> thanx guys
[07:03] <derron> why
[07:03] <xtknight> elyon: odd.  i guess so.  mine seemed to work
[07:03] <derron> why
[07:03] <TheGateKeeper> !ops
[07:03] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[07:03] <Fireal> derron:  try alt+F4 then click close tabs
[07:03] <Zaggynl> Seveas, darron is a troll, asking the same questions over and over again
[07:04] <Zaggynl> *derron
[07:04] <derron> why
[07:04] <Music_Shuffle> Stop using !ops, Seveas is already in here.
[07:04] <derron> tell me
[07:04] <wyld> zaggynl: what does that mean?
[07:04] <Seveas> TheGateKeeper, don't use !ops if an op ispaying attention
[07:04] <derron> tell me
[07:04] <elyon> xtknight:  Okay I ran it with gksudo gparted and its just scanning, scanning, scanning.  And yes, I installed ntfsprogs
[07:04] <TheGateKeeper> Seveas: didn't know one was
[07:04] <Zaggynl> wyld, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
[07:05] <bieb> exhav0k did you find it?
[07:05] <xtknight> elyon: hmm.  are there any warnings in the terminal from which you ran it?
[07:05] <Zaggynl> thanks Seveas
[07:05] <TheGateKeeper> Seveas: not a lot seem to be happening
[07:05] <gizmo_the_great1> hi. I cannot work out how to use Kino to create a DVD that will playback as a 'conventional' DVD disk in a DVD player? I can copy the avi files to it no problem, but I want it to play like a normal DVD. What am I doing wrong?
[07:05] <elyon> xtknight:  Unable to open /dev/fd0 read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/fd0 has been opened read-only.
[07:05] <elyon> xtknight:  and (gparted:29818): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",
[07:06] <elyon> xtknight:  The second one repeats many times (and I've seen it before when running other apps)
[07:06] <xtknight> elyon: yup, i get some of the same warnings.   but not sure why it is still scanning on yours
[07:06] <exhav0k> bied, it did not tell me where my modem was as in, where it was mounted under the /dev/...blahblah
[07:06] <chele> Ciao, un saluto a tutto il canale!
[07:06] <pike_> gizmo_the_great1: is kino a converter from avi to mpeg?
[07:06] <bieb> exhav0k what did you use?
[07:06] <daedra> !it
[07:06] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:06] <exhav0k> bieb: it said "The modem driver snd-intel8x0m is Not loaded"
[07:07] <elyon> xtknight:  Still scanning... any suggestions?
[07:07] <exhav0k> bieb: i used that scanModem program
[07:07] <xtknight> elyon: hmm.  unmount everything except your linux and swap drives?
[07:07] <gizmo_the_great1> pike_: I streamed the footage off my digital camcorder as an avi file, then exported it as 2 seperate avi's. When these are copied to DVD the DVD player does not recognise it. So I want to create something like a VOB set or something that will play on a DVD using the two avi files I have currently?
[07:07] <kazuka> how do i transfer files to a network
[07:08] <bieb> if you read through the documents it created, one will tell you how to load the modem, if it is a linmodem, it will be dev/ttySL*
[07:08] <elyon> xtknight:  They are unmounted (although I never unmounted them myself)
[07:08] <mharding> How can I tell why programs are chashing and locking up on me
[07:08] <mharding> is there a log file
[07:08] <pike_> gizmo_the_great1: ive found gentoo documentation to be great regardless of distro youre using. might try: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_a_DVD:Encode#kino
[07:08] <Zaggynl> mharding, try System Log from the Gnome menu (if you run gnome)
[07:08] <xtknight> elyon: odd.  maybe it's some weird error or some driver is stuck.  might try a reboot, maybe this is just a one time thing where something needs to refresh, i dont know what's going on
[07:09] <Zaggynl> mharding, System->Administration->System Log
[07:09] <jah_raztah> how do i change the root of a partition to my current user name
[07:09] <elyon> xtknight:  Don't tell me you've resorted to the Windows fix-all?? ;)
[07:09] <jah_raztah> sudo chroot -r /media/hda2 username:username
[07:09] <jah_raztah> ?
[07:09] <exhav0k> bieb: yeah, i figured it had to be /dev/ttyS* because under network settings it gives me 0 through 3 and /dev/modem, but in /dev, there is no /dev/modem
[07:09] <xtknight> elyon: i stoop to it sometimes
[07:10] <xtknight> elyon: ok, we cant let this happen.  see if there's anything at the end of 'dmesg'
[07:10] <elyon> xtknight:  Alright, I'll try rebooting.  This will really be the first reboot in a few days (not bad considering I have no clue what I'm doing)
[07:10] <Napster_> hi
[07:10] <TheGateKeeper> mharding: if a number of different apps are doing I would suspect a corrupt install or possible something wrong with the hdd
[07:10] <Napster_> wats the command to configure the xorg.conf file
[07:10] <elyon> xtknight:  dmesg gave me a lot of info... what am I looking for?
[07:10] <xtknight> elyon: we'll debug a little further.  im disappointed in myself
[07:10] <Napster_> or where is it situated
[07:10] <xtknight> elyon: hmm, post the whole thing on pastebin i guess
[07:10] <exhav0k> Napster_: it's easier to just gedit the xorg.conf file
[07:10] <elyon> xtknight:  A lot of i/o errors
[07:10] <Napster_> how?
[07:10] <xtknight> elyon: yeah ditto
[07:11] <ubuntux> does someone know a nice howto for setting up postfix+squirrelmail+mysql etc on 6.06?
[07:11] <exhav0k> Napster_: type:  sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:11] <covOPprometheus> can anyone help me setting up the SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro slot?
[07:11] <elyon> xtknight:  I can't select all the output, my terminal doesn't go back far enough lol
[07:12] <xtknight> elyon: ah, you can either adjust the scrollback (buffer) length of the terminal under preferences or put dmesg into a file and upload that file by copying it from gedit
[07:12] <exhav0k> Napster_: what are you trying to do
[07:12] <xtknight> elyon: type this to put dmesg into a file
[07:12] <xtknight> elyon: dmesg > heresmydmesg
[07:12] <xtknight> elyon: gedit heresmydmesg
[07:12] <jah_raztah> how do i change the root of a partition to my current user name, it uses chroot but i don't remember how to use it
[07:12] <bieb> exhav0k if your modem is a winmodem/linmodem the it will be a ttySL#
[07:12] <adaptr> deepsa: din, actually :)
[07:12] <IntuitiveNipple> Recommendation Required: For Edgy, a gnome disk editor available from the ubuntu repositories (needed to 'sniff' the install disk prior to installation from the Desktop live CD)
[07:13] <deepsa> adaptr, here its night
[07:13] <exhav0k> bieb: i dont know what that means, winmodem/linmodem...
[07:13] <mharding> what log tell me that a program locked
[07:13] <exhav0k> bieb: its an intel modem
[07:13] <elyon> xtknight:  Okay, its on pastebin
[07:13] <bieb> winmodems are softare based, not all hardware
[07:14] <xtknight> elyon: the greater than sign takes output from a stream called StdOut (standard out) and puts it into a file.  Dmesg prints to StdOut, and the StdOut is piped to a file.  The terminal receives StdOut (standard ouput) and StdErr (Standard Error) from the program and just shows it to you.  when you pipe it it will only go to the file, not the terminal anymore
[07:14] <HymnToLife> exhav0k, basically, windmodems are not modems, there are lots of hardware parts missing in them in comparison to a real modem, and those parts are software-emulated
[07:14] <baastrup> bdbnet
[07:14] <HymnToLife> so to make them work on Linux, we need software that can do it
[07:14] <exhav0k> HymnToLife: ah, i gotcha
[07:14] <xtknight> elyon: need the url ;)
[07:14] <adaptr> deepsa: well, it's about dinnertime here
[07:14] <bieb> exhav0k without the modem loaded, you wont be able to tell what /dev it will be
[07:14] <elyon> xtknight:  oh.  I've never used pastebin before... figured you'd just see my name on the left ;)  One sec
[07:15] <hilbert94> Hello! I have a CUPS problem. I have a d
[07:15] <deepsa> adaptr, i thought din means day. as in hindi
[07:15] <elyon> xtknight:  http://pastebin.com/851131
[07:15] <HymnToLife> !modem | exhav0k
[07:15] <ubotu> exhav0k: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[07:15] <elyon> xtknight:  I need to step outside for a minute... I'll be right back.
[07:15] <IntuitiveNipple> Why does Synaptic 2nd-guess me about what size I want the window panes?
[07:15] <exhav0k> well, how do i go about figuring out if its a winmodem or not?
[07:15] <xtknight> elyon: oh, use pastebin.ubuntu-nl next time for ubuntu stuff
[07:15] <HymnToLife> this should get you up and running - that is, if your modem is supported
[07:15] <exhav0k> that wiki i guess
[07:15] <xtknight> elyon: thats ok though
[07:15] <xtknight> elyon: we just dont clog up the other pastebin and the ubuntu one is easier to read :P
[07:15] <xtknight> !pastebin | elyon
[07:15] <ubotu> elyon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:15] <xtknight> elyon: ill let you go now
[07:16] <dv5237> ubuntu rocks!
[07:16] <elyon> xtknight:  Okay, I bookmarked the Ubuntu paste bin... be right back.
[07:16] <pike_> exhav0k: if its not external 99% time its a winmodem.. ime
[07:16] <hilbert94> I have a Debian server with a cups server on it and multiple ubuntu clients which print on this Debian box. If the printer is off, a job is sent and the client reboots the job is resent to the server and when I switch the printer on, I get multiple copies (the multiple jobs). What is the reason for this and how can I stop this?
[07:16] <bieb> exhav0k hold on one min, let me boot this machine I have been working on
[07:16] <tiede> 555
[07:16] <adaptr> deepsa: no, sup - din; sup-per, din-ner
[07:17] <exhav0k> bieb: alright, cool
[07:17] <exhav0k> pike_: then its a winmodem
[07:17] <deepsa> adaptr, lol
[07:17] <mharding> what is the best browser to use in linux
[07:17] <adaptr> deepsa: but thanks for the hindi lesson, I'll never learn it otherwise :)
[07:17] <exhav0k> its in a laptop anyways
[07:17] <adaptr> mharding: what do you want to browse ?
[07:17] <Zaggynl> mharding, the one to your taste, I prefer Mozilla Firefox.
[07:18] <nikin> mharding: depends on
[07:18] <Zaggynl> Gotta love those extensions
[07:18] <mharding> I am using firefox but it is crashing on me
[07:18] <pike_> mharding: ice weasel  :p
[07:19] <nikin> i prefer opera and Elinks
[07:19] <scoates> my ubuntu box hangs on boot. There's nothing in the logs (_nothing_) so it must die before syslog starts. Help please?!
[07:20] <covOPprometheus> can anyone help me setting up the SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro slot?
[07:20] <mharding> the firefox browser is chashing on some sites
[07:20] <mharding> could it be because of a plugin
[07:20] <tiede> hello. I have a problem. I wanted conky to load automatically on startup, so I added it to the sessions tab. It does make conky start, and I can see it for about a second or so, but when Nautilus draws the desktop, conky gets 'hidden' under it, and I have to restart it agin to see it. How do I solve this issue? I thought of passing the command sleep 10 && conky in gnome- sessions-manager, but it doesn't seem to work... Is this even allowed ther
[07:20] <tiede> e?
[07:21] <exhav0k> tiede: try making it start after nautilus
[07:21] <deepsa> adaptr, so what you think of my problem the one related to network and sound in nvidia
[07:21] <scoates> installed a new kernel (via livecd and chroot).. let me try rebooting (yet again)
[07:21] <tiede> how do I do that. I change the prioroty to 99 and it did not help, exhav0k
[07:21] <elyon> xtknight:  I'm back.
[07:22] <xtknight> elyon: im afraid there's nothing that alarming in dmesg, just a bunch of i/o errors that i also get.  we have one more thing we can try that will definitely track down the problem, but it's going to be a gigantic log file.
[07:22] <Moo2> hi.I have downloaded a screencast .mov and I want to show it using vlc. The sound works but I can see only the first image of the video. Can you help me ?
[07:22] <xtknight> elyon: 'sudo apt-get install ltrace strace'
[07:22] <kazuka> !samba
[07:22] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:22] <elyon> xtknight:  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:22] <mharding> xtknight: I think a plugin is crashing my firefox
[07:22] <mharding> how can I fix
[07:23] <cyber_brain_mfkg> eject: unable to find or open device for: `cdrom'!!!i got this error on eject command! maybe i added something wrong in my fstab?what to add in fstab to define dvd burner???
[07:23] <exhav0k> tiede: hmm, i dont really know then
[07:23] <exhav0k> sorry
[07:23] <bieb> exhav0k in the file ModemData.txt, there is a section towards the bottem that tells you "Support Type needed" that will tell you what files you need to load your modem
[07:23] <tiede> well, I'll keep looking
[07:23] <exhav0k> bieb, okay
[07:23] <xtknight> mharding: uh well you will have to isolate that somehow.  does it always happen on a site using one type of plugin?
[07:23] <xtknight> elyon: turns out it's already installed.  let me find the right command now
[07:23] <nwf_> hi all
[07:24] <bieb> exhav0k let me know once you find that
[07:24] <JackInTheGreen> hi2u2
[07:24] <tiede> btw, no one else knows how i can make conky draw *after* nautilus is launched?
[07:24] <xtknight> elyon: sudo strace gparted 2> gpartedlogfile
[07:24] <xtknight> elyon: the 2> is the proper identifier, that outputs both StdOut and StdErr to gpartedlogfile.  let that run for a while, let it scan for about a minute, and then close gparted and upload gpartedlogfile
[07:24] <twisties> Installed nVidia driver package and then Beryl 0.1.4        Now after loading GUI the whole OS freezes. Cant close gui or anything. Help?
[07:25] <elyon> xtknight:  Okay...
[07:25] <maxo> hi
[07:25] <mharding> I think it might be flash or java
[07:25] <maxo> I was just wondering, if I install ubuntu, can it still use packages from the main debian repository, or are there incompatibilities?
[07:25] <Hagar> Could someone point me in the direction for documentation on the maximum amount of ram for ubuntu server?
[07:25] <nwf_> my gnome windows have the main bar splited from windows, but non gnome apps dont (firefox, ..)
[07:25] <xtknight> mharding: what websites crash if you dont mind me asking?
[07:26] <nwf_> can anyone help me w this
[07:26] <exhav0k> bieb: it says i need hsfmodem
[07:26] <jah_raztah> how do i change the root of a partition to my current user name, it uses chroot but i don't remember how to use it
[07:27] <pike_> twisties: i know nothing of beryl but can you get to command line?  alt-ctrl-f1 through f6
[07:27] <xtknight> twisties: maybe try #beryl
[07:27] <twisties> no. after it freezes I cant do anything
[07:27] <twisties> One time i managed to get to command line first, then close the beryl-manager
[07:27] <mharding> torrentz.com and adobe
[07:28] <elyon> xtknight:
[07:28] <twisties> once that was closed there was no problem... =/
[07:28] <covOPprometheus> can anyone help me setting up the SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro slot?
[07:28] <kandinski> I moved my tv card from one slot to another and now tv app is slow as hell. Startup scroll says stuff like "IRC conflict bttv0"
[07:28] <kandinski> how can I fix it without moving the card again?
[07:28] <mharding> can I reinstall firefox
[07:28] <elyon> xtknight:  seems to have crashed my Firefox... one sec
[07:29] <pike_> twisties: id reboot into single user mode or recovery or whatever theyre calling it and do chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm or something similar
[07:29] <elyon> xtknight:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/465/
[07:29] <opensource> you know, there "Heading 1" , "Heading 2" .... i have a huge document which i dont want whole to edit manually. i need to add a higher level than "Heading 0". ok i created new style "Heading 0" but should i indicated that this heading0 must be included in table-of-content two?
[07:29] <opensource> is possible with Openoffice?
[07:29] <opensource> to create higher level than "Heading 1" and include it in TOC
[07:30] <opensource> ?
[07:30] <xtknight> elyon: ok
[07:30] <bart_> hi all
[07:30] <Vlet> Why is it that every time I load the add/remove apps program, it tells me 'the list of available applications is out of date'?
[07:30] <twisties> pike: Talking to a linux newb here, what does that command do?
[07:30] <xtknight> mharding: probably flash.  sorry im not sure why it would be crashing
[07:30] <xtknight> mharding: try updating to flash player 9 beta
[07:30] <bart_> someone has the new Nvida driver on edgy amd 64 running ?
[07:30] <xtknight> bart_: yes i do
[07:30] <xtknight> bart_: the one released about a week ago?
[07:31] <iveqy> hi, how can I download packages from a repository without using ubuntu?
[07:31] <scoates> ... I still can't boot, and I don't know where to look
[07:31] <xtknight> ivaldi: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[07:31] <britt_> is there any tarball available for the PowerPC version of ubuntu
[07:31] <bart_> xtknight, yes version 1.0-9
[07:31] <pike_> twisties: gdm is the script that starts x server (gui) youre removing the x or executable flag so that it wont execute. so youll be dropped at a command prompt at startup.
[07:31] <britt_> for Citrix ICA client
[07:31] <xtknight> britt_: tarball as opposed to iso?
[07:31] <bart_> xtknight, i have installed by nvida run app
[07:31] <britt_> should have been more specific shouldnt I :p
[07:31] <bart_> xtknight, but aufer rebooting the driver is gone
[07:31] <ozzloy> i compiled a kernel module, but now i want to try a new version.  how do i make the system forget about the old one?
[07:32] <pike_> twisties: to run it manually youd do maybe: sudo sh /etc/init.d/gdm restart   all those scripts in /etc/init.d can be started stoped or restarted
[07:32] <xtknight> elyon: frezing my firefox too, sec ;)
[07:32] <frogzoo> britt_: try the Citrix site best bet - you might get an rpm
[07:32] <iveqy> xtknight: thx
[07:32] <elyon> xtknight:  yeah, it really is huge.
[07:32] <britt_> frogzoo: tried that, x86 only.
[07:32] <elyon> xtknight:  37,728 lines
[07:32] <britt_> would alien help me out
[07:32] <frogzoo> britt_: well then I doubt you'll find one tbh
[07:32] <xtknight> yay it loaded
[07:33] <twisties> pike: How can I remove the beryl-manager command from the startup from command line? If that doesn't load up then I wont have an issue
[07:33] <bart_> xtknight, i get error after reboot : api mismatch the nvida mudule has the version 7xxx but the x module has version 9xxx please make shure all nv modules have same version
[07:33] <bart_> after resinstalling it runs , biut after reboot its gone
[07:34] <xtknight> elyon: did you control C to end gparted or did you close it regularly when u did the strace?
[07:34] <elyon> xtknight:  I closed it regularly.
[07:35] <exhav0k> bieb, i got the driver, and the license says that it limits speeds to 14.4kbps
[07:35] <pike_> twisties: im not really sure how beryl works.  id think you could just "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to reconfigure your x server.  the genderic (safe) dirver to choose is vesa.  but im not sure what beryl is doing or best way to remove
[07:35] <xtknight> elyon: im afraid i need to brush up on my greek.  oh well, we'll try something else
[07:35] <xtknight> elyon: strace is just too huge
[07:35] <bieb> hmmmm
[07:35] <bieb> what did you have to get?
[07:36] <exhav0k> hsfmodem
[07:36] <xtknight> elyon: ok, type 'gksudo gparted' and we will use ltrace to attach to the running process
[07:36] <ameoba> new install of 6.10.  Trying to install flashplugin-nonfree and getting a "automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes"
[07:36] <exhav0k> which i dont exactly understand because i thought i had an intel modem
[07:36] <HS^> ubuntu wont install with desktop livecd's, so i tried alternate. now its installed but WONT BOOT..........
[07:36] <HS^> SOmeone help pleaes
[07:36] <xtknight> bart_: hmm.  it looks like your libraries dont match.  im not sure how to fix that but i know some Xorg modules are stored in /lib/modules and that may need to match with what the nvidia kernel compiled
[07:36] <twisties> pike: Well once i stopped the beryl-manager process I had no problem. And I can get to command prompt through recovery mode boot. Just need to know how to remove that entry in the startup
[07:36] <stewski> whats wrong HS just got in
[07:36] <pike_> ameoba: just download the plugin and drop it in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[07:36] <elyon> xtknight:  Okay, its running.
[07:36] <bieb> exhav0k I am not sure on that.. I had to install sl-modem-daemon
[07:37] <HS^> stewski ubuntu wont install with desktop livecd's, so i tried alternate. now its installed but WONT BOOT..........
[07:37] <bart_> xtknight, so what sould  i do ?
[07:37] <xtknight> elyon: ok.  open another terminal and type :  'ps ax | grep gparted'  to get the PID (process ID) of gparted.  you want the PID of gparted, not the PID of gksudo gparted which is just gksudo itself
[07:37] <stewski> what error are you seeing on attempted boot?
[07:37] <ameoba> pike_, yeah...  that's what I was thinking I'd have to do.  Kinda prefer to use package manager when I can.
[07:37] <xtknight> bart_: sorry, not sure really.  ive never gotten the error.  could you post the exact error in all its glory to pastebin?
[07:37] <calonddraig> does anyone know how to select user language pack?
[07:37] <bart_> pastebin
[07:37] <bart_> !pastebin
[07:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:38] <Intelligitimate> I have a question. Is there any software for Linux that will allow overburning to a DVD, and supports cross linking?
[07:38] <elyon> xtknight:  There are two plain gparted
[07:38] <pike_> twisties: well you can ls /etc/init.d/  and look for the name of the beryl script if there is one.. then "sudo update-rc.d -f scriptname remove" but im not sure about beryl
[07:38] <HS^> stewski wait i now try save boot or something
[07:38] <xtknight> elyon: sure one doesnt say grep?
[07:38] <xtknight> elyon: you may have two open .. hmm
[07:38] <HS^> stewski no errors just freezes
[07:38] <elyon> xtknight:  Yeah, I'm sure... I have 4 entries.  Two gparted, one gksudo gparted, and one grep gparted.
[07:38] <stewski> OK so you get the ubuntu boot splash screen?
[07:38] <HS^> it freezes now again on "input PC Speaker as clss/input/input1
[07:38] <xtknight> elyon: hmm.  one is a zombie
[07:39] <xtknight> elyon: maybe thats the problem all along
[07:39] <elyon> xtknight:  Could that be the problem then?
[07:39] <elyon> "_
[07:39] <elyon> :)
[07:39] <xtknight> elyon: close the gparted you know you have open
[07:39] <xtknight> elyon: then well get rid of the zombie
[07:39] <bart_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/467/
[07:39] <twisties> hmm lemme write that down (speaking from Live cd atm)
[07:39] <elyon> xtknight:  System Monitor?
[07:39] <xtknight> well not technically a zombie, i just like callingg it zombies
[07:39] <kandinski> I moved my tv card from one slot to another and now tv app is slow as hell. Startup scroll says stuff like "IRC conflict bttv0". How can I recover the message and how can I fix it without moving the card again?
[07:39] <bart_> 5 min afk
[07:39] <xtknight> elyon: sure you can try terminating the zombie one that way
[07:40] <elyon> xtknight:  Hmm... its not a listed process there.
[07:40] <xtknight> elyon: alright.  go to the terminal and type 'sudo killall gparted'
[07:40] <stewski> HS^ do you have any devices that are not required you could unplug?
[07:40] <Skyrail> If I install the LAMP server with the Ubuntu Server edition will it install all the usual stuff as well like it would if I didn't choose the LAMP server option?
[07:40] <kk_> hi, can someone tell me if I can track the downloads from an apt repository that I set up ?
[07:40] <stewski> try removing printers, network external drives etc
[07:40] <elyon> okay.  ps ax now shows two.  One gparted [defunct]  and grep gparted
[07:40] <HS^> stewski no its just a laptop
[07:40] <pike_> twisties: also you might type "/join ubuntu-xgl"  that channel would have people more knowledgable
[07:40] <Napster_> i need to set my resolution but it only gives me the 800x600 option
[07:41] <Napster_> how can i change that?
[07:41] <stewski> wifi?
[07:41] <xtknight> bart_: i guess i dont see the problem in your log
[07:41] <HS^> yes
[07:41] <calonddraig> anyone know anything about languag packs?
[07:41] <stewski> is it a card or onboard?
[07:41] <HS^> onboard
[07:41] <xtknight> calonddraig: system->admin->language suppot
[07:41] <exhav0k> bieb:  do you think it would be possible for me to use the Conexant HSF 56k linux driver from http://www.modem-drivers.com/companies/247.htm?acd=3&rvd=5&thx=9&bng=7&o=9
[07:41] <Napster_> how can i get more resoluyions?
[07:41] <stewski> HS^ which model?
[07:41] <calonddraig> thanks...
[07:41] <stewski> the laptop
[07:41] <jessid> hello friends...
[07:42] <Napster_> *resolutions
[07:42] <jessid> how is everybody?
[07:42] <pike_> !fixres | Napster_
[07:42] <ubotu> Napster_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:42] <HS^> stewski model? its compaq presario v6000
[07:42] <calonddraig> erm.... how do i change the language on a user account that's already active?
[07:42] <HS^> now it freezes some place else
[07:43] <HS^> "starting kernel event manager"
[07:43] <calonddraig> I'd prefer not to have to make a new account
[07:43] <xtknight> !locale
[07:43] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[07:43] <Skyrail> If I install the LAMP server with the Ubuntu Server edition will it install all the usual stuff as well like it would if I didn't choose the LAMP server option?
[07:43] <calonddraig> thanks
[07:43] <mharding> what do I type in to get the flash player 9
[07:43] <HS^> ubuntu dont make a very good start on my laptop
[07:43] <stewski> are you happy with the HDD/Memory and other hardware, were you previously running another OS OK?
[07:43] <Riyonuk> Can someone help me with my wireless issue? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=331334
[07:43] <xtknight> mharding: you have to download it from adobe's site
[07:43] <jessid> I would like to ask you something: how can I read the log (or whatever it is called) of the system when it is loaded? I mean I read this message: filesystem is not clean, but could not determine which partition...
[07:43] <xtknight> jessid: type dmesg | less
[07:44] <xtknight> jessid: that will let you scroll through it
[07:44] <mharding> I can't get on there site without it crashing
[07:44] <xtknight> mharding: ok ill give you the url, hold on
[07:44] <HS^> stef happy? yea it works, win XP works.. other linuxes work. except ubuntu
[07:44] <exhav0k> bieb:  do you think it would be possible for me to use the Conexant HSF 56k linux driver from http://www.modem-drivers.com/companies/247.htm?acd=3&rvd=5&thx=9&bng=7&o=9
[07:44] <HS^> stewski*
[07:44] <xtknight> mharding: sudo apt-get install wget
[07:44] <nikin> how can i delete nonempty directory from command line?
[07:44] <stewski> did the live CD crash also randomly?
[07:44] <HS^> stewski no it didnt even want to install
[07:44] <pike_> HS^: you might try dapper if youre using edgy or vice versa. thatd be the lazy fix
[07:44] <calonddraig> thanks for the help guys, just what i wanted! bye!
[07:45] <mharding> ok
[07:45] <HS^> pike_ i tried 3 different cd's now....
[07:45] <stewski> we need to decide if its hardware or software
[07:45] <pike_> HS^: which version?
[07:45] <xtknight> mharding: can you load this site? http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
[07:45] <HS^> 64 bit 32 bit.. and also alternate
[07:45] <Riyonuk> pike_, hey :p
[07:45] <HS^> pike_ newest.
[07:45] <HS^> 6.10 i believe
[07:46] <stewski> have you used the live CD in other PCs successfully?
[07:46] <nikin> how can i delete nonempty directory from command line?
[07:46] <Riyonuk> nikin, isnt it rm or rm -d
[07:46] <HS^> stewski didnt try..
[07:46] <NoEvidenZ> ANYONE: Can anyone help me set up my WPN311 (Atheros based card) in Ubuntu so that it will work with 128bit encryption? I'm getting desperate here.
[07:46] <HS^> stewski it wont boot, it just freezes, the livecd
[07:46] <pike_> HS^: im still using dapper and will for a while. its the long term support version. also not as picky as edgy ive heard. dapper is 6.06
[07:46] <mharding> how do I install when it is downloaded
[07:46] <stewski> OK
[07:47] <HS^> yea .. i wont install some old version
[07:47] <stewski> sounds like either laptop hardware fault or a corrupted CD
[07:47] <nikin> Riyonuk: as i see it is root only thing
[07:47] <HS^> stewski i checked cd's
[07:47] <HS^> all of them.
[07:47] <Fireal> nikinn:  http://www.computerhope.com/unix.htm  rm -r /targetdirectory
[07:47] <HS^> and the fault is with ubuntu.. other linux work
[07:48] <Fireal> nikinn: if you need root permission add sudo to the beginning
[07:48] <jessid> xtknight thanks...Is it possible to scroll the text it is seen before GNOME load?
[07:48] <stewski> you had a previous linux install working fine?
[07:48] <Skyrail> Anyone know? If I install the LAMP server on ubuntu server will it only install the extra stuff for a web server or will it remove stuff from the original one?
[07:48] <xtknight> jessid: it should be in dmesg
[07:48] <mharding> How do I install this package
[07:48] <nikin> strange ... rm -r worked just fine...
[07:48] <pike_> HS^: well you want cutting edge try 7.04. its likely pretty usable by now. out in april i think
[07:48] <mharding> it is an so file
[07:48] <xtknight> mharding: read the install instructions provided by adobe
[07:48] <Mr-NONO> Can i install 64bit ubuntu on a 32bit supported system?
[07:48] <stewski> HS^ wants working me thinks not cutting edge
[07:49] <xtknight> Mr-NONO: nope
[07:49] <Fireal> nikin: it will when you have adequate permissions
[07:49] <jessid> xtknight it is different, i cant find anything about file "system is not clean"
[07:49] <exhav0k> bieb:  do you think it would be possible for me to use the Conexant HSF 56k linux driver from http://www.modem-drivers.com/companies/247.htm?acd=3&rvd=5&thx=9&bng=7&o=9
[07:49] <Fireal> ninkinn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[07:49] <NoEvidenZ> No one? =/
[07:49] <HS^> i have same problem as this:
[07:49] <HS^> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=291690
[07:49] <Fireal> -r means "recursive"
[07:49] <mharding> it doesn't say
[07:50] <HS^> same problem, same hardware
[07:50] <tim167> how can I batch-convert .m4a files into .mp3 ?
[07:50] <Mr-NONO> xtknight, ok, i has 1 64bit system and one 32bit, so it woulda been nice it there was an all in one cd, is there? or dvd ?
[07:50] <iveqy> next question :). How can I know on what PCI my network card is at?
[07:50] <nikin> Fireal: ok ty.
[07:50] <xtknight> jessid: hmm.  type dmesg | grep clean
[07:50] <stewski> thnks for link HS^ ill have a read
[07:50] <xtknight> Mr-NONO: hmm. well you can install 32bit on both, but there isnt an all in one to my knowledge
[07:50] <Fireal> NoEvidenZ:  do they have drm?
[07:50] <jessid> xtknight nothing happens...
[07:50] <unfun> How do I do to choose my sound device?
[07:51] <gaten> can anyone tell me if mysql on Ubuntu server is installed static or not? by default that is
[07:51] <ws_> if i want to change all names in a directory and all subdirectory like all files named *jahbar* to *hello*, how to do?
[07:51] <xtknight> jessid: hmm.  im not sure where it is stored.  you could try    cat /var/log/syslog | grep clean
[07:51] <Mr-NONO> xtknight, i saw them seling a ubuntu dvd in amazon
[07:51] <marcus_> hi im having problems seeing my windows network through ubuntu
[07:51] <jessid> xtknight ok...thanks a lot!
[07:51] <xtknight> Mr-NONO: with both 32bit and 64bit?
[07:51] <pike_> gaten: i believe not server apps installed by default. think of server install as minimal desktop
[07:51] <Mr-NONO> not sure, checking
[07:51] <tim167> i need a command line sound conversion program that can convert from m4a to mp3
[07:51] <NoEvidenZ> Fireal: drm?
[07:51] <Fireal> digital rights management
[07:52] <gaten> pike_:  with the LAMP installtion
[07:52] <Fireal> tim167: same to you, do they have drm?
[07:52] <stewski> HS^ those are not compaq laptops listed on that thread
[07:52] <danny500> Hi. I'm having a problem with my sound card not working. Can sombody help me?
[07:52] <tim167> Fireal: not that I'm aware of no
[07:53] <Fireal> ok, tim167 and no evidenz, gimme a sec to search, i remember seeing a how-to
[07:53] <Napster_> i really need help with my screen resolution. i need 1024x768 but i cant get it
[07:53] <Napster_> do i need a driver for my graphics card?
[07:54] <danny500> Napster_ > What type of screen do you have?
[07:54] <qos> hey guys ... when i try to open thunar on my server via x-forwarding it says that it "Thunar: cannot open display: (null)". does anyone know how to fix this?
[07:54] <nikin> Napster_ what gfx card and what kind of Monitor do you have?
[07:54] <marcus_> i can get to mshome but ubuntu says that mshome is not a folder
[07:54] <danny500> the gfx card detects what type of monitor you have and what resolutions it handles. How onld is the screen?
[07:54] <nikin> qos: x forwarding is set right?
[07:55] <jessid> good bye!
[07:55] <Napster_> gfx = ATI radeon 9550 and a proline crystalview 5Elr monitor
[07:55] <mharding> WOooohoooo, browser working now after upgrade to flash player 9
[07:55] <xfrost> What's the correct way to install emacs on Ubuntu?.
[07:55] <danny500> Napster, how old is your screen?
[07:55] <Napster_> i dunno
[07:55] <nikin> Napster: if you need the 3D accel capabilities of your card then you nedd a driver
[07:55] <qos> nikin, in /etc/ssh/sshd_config? X11Forwarding yes & X11DisplayOffset 10
[07:55] <Napster_> a few years i think
[07:55] <nikin> !ati
[07:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:56] <danny500> ok like what the other guy says you need a driver
[07:56] <rance> I need some help with a script im trying to write, I need to check to make sure that the distro is ubuntu server LTS and I need a way to check if package "foo" is installed and if not, install it
[07:56] <nikin> qos: you have to set some things in the clients ssh_config to
[07:56] <aoupi> xfrost: apt-get install emacs is my guess
[07:56] <Fireal> tim167 and noevidenz - did you buy them from the itunes store?
[07:56] <danny500> does anybody know how to get my sound card working?
[07:56] <marcus_> also need to know if there is a way to compile packages from source easily.
[07:57] <xmOD> i want to install adobe reader in ubuntu for which i have to run a INSTALL file which is there in the directory.. how do i run it?
[07:57] <NoEvidenZ> Fireal: Buy what?
[07:57] <Fireal> the mp4 files
[07:57] <marcus_> itunes is m4p
[07:58] <xmOD> ...
[07:58] <stewski> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191032&page=36
[07:58] <tim167> Fireal: no
[07:58] <danny500> xmoD, right click on the install file go to permission properties and change them so that you can exucute the install program then open your terminal, left click and drag the file onto the terminal
[07:58] <peppi> hi
[07:58] <stewski> at least one user with a v6000 on 6.10
[07:58] <qos> nikin, i set ForwardX11 yes in my client config ... no success ... same problem
[07:59] <danny500> ok xmoD, thats how I do it.
[07:59] <peppi> is there any help for xchat on ubuntu
[07:59] <exhav0k> bieb:  do you think it would be possible for me to use the Conexant HSF 56k linux driver from http://www.modem-drivers.com/companies/247.htm?acd=3&rvd=5&thx=9&bng=7&o=9
[07:59] <danny500> now I need help getting my sound card to work, does anybody know how to help me?
[07:59] <Fireal> ok I'm answering the wrong question NoEvidenz, sorry
[07:59] <Balsamic_Chicken> i need help with webcam, it's a logitech quickcam pro 5000, what's the general steps to setting this up
[07:59] <peppi> I get an error loading a plugin
[08:00] <nikin> qos: some more need to be set.. i search a txt on net for you
[08:00] <wyld> I'm trying to install ubuntu and when i get to the part where one is supposed to assign names to the different partitions and assign a root filesystem, I am unable to figure out how to do this. what is the root file system? I thought that it was "/" but the install program says that it isn't what it is.
[08:00] <NoEvidenZ> Fireal: No problem, I was ignoring you anyway.
[08:00] <aoupi> qos: does it work if you run 'ssh -X server' and then start xeyes?
[08:00] <marcus_> root is /
[08:01] <wyld> so why can't I install it to /?
[08:01] <kazuka> !samba
[08:01] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:01] <qos> aoupi, its a pure server ... i just installed thunar via "apt-get install thunar"
[08:01] <xmOD> @danny500: it says permission denied when the program tries to make a dir in  usr/local/ how do i remove that?
[08:01] <marcus_> wyld did you partion for it?
[08:01] <wyld> yes, I'm doing a re-install
[08:01] <aoupi> qos: you need the x-libraries to be able to use x11 forwarding
[08:01] <twisties> wyld: What filesystem have you set for the "/" partition?
[08:01] <qos> aoupi, so i hope i was in one of the dependencies ..
[08:01] <unfun> How do I get my surround 5.1 to work?
[08:01] <wyld> marcus_: ext3
[08:01] <marcus_> wyld: did you chose the right partition in the drop down box?
[08:02] <wyld> marcus_: yes
[08:02] <wyld> marcus_: sda6 for root and sda8 for swap
[08:02] <marcus_> wyld: do you have one partition and swap or many partitions and swap?
[08:02] <twisties> wyld: I had this same problem when installing, just trying to remember what I did to fix
[08:02] <drach> hello, did anybody install ubuntu on motherboard with intel i975 chipset? Are there problems with support of this chipset in ubuntu?
[08:02] <wyld> marcus_: two partitions and one swap
[08:02] <prezes> l
[08:03] <HS^> stewski im in
[08:03] <prezes> hej
[08:03] <anderson> oi
[08:03] <peppi> ANY ONE CAN HELP ME WITH XCHAT LOADING SOME PLUGIN?  I get the following error: /home/peppi/.xchat2/xfish.so: failed to map segment from shared object: Operation not permitted
[08:03] <prezes> tu prezes
[08:03] <prezes> !!
[08:03] <xtknight_away> drach: yes indeed there are some issues, search core 2 duo ubuntu in google
[08:03] <prezes> co tam leszcze
[08:03] <prezes> only polisch plis
[08:03] <prezes> !!
[08:03] <eskimokisz> hey guys - i just installed ubuntu; when i try to access the software installation interface, or the updates, or really anything that req's the administrative password, i get locked out
[08:03] <marcus_> wyld: is the partition large enough for /?
[08:03] <wyld> marcus_: i'm trying to put several distros on it, using the same swap
[08:03] <drach> xtknight_away: thanks
[08:03] <xtknight_away> !pl | prezes
[08:03] <ubotu> prezes: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:03] <eskimokisz> can anyone help?
[08:03] <wyld> marcus_: yeah, it's about 18 GiB
[08:03] <prezes> jak za instalowac GG
[08:04] <prezes> ?
[08:04] <tim167> eskimokisz: do you have your password ?
[08:04] <Fireal> tim167: i believe ffmpeg might work or try searching soundconverter or transKode, the forums have some links
[08:04] <xtknight_away> prezes: you must go to the #ubuntu-pl channel
[08:04] <eskimokisz> it should be the same pw that I log in w/, right?
[08:04] <trainer> Hi, I'm trying to install edgy on a dell laptop. I put in the live cd and start the install process, but when it is time to format my drive ther list of partitions is empty. it looks like it is just not recognizing my hard drive. is this a common issue, can anyone help me?
[08:04] <tim167> Fireal: cool I'll have a look
[08:04] <marcus_> wyld: oh....... well then chose partition / for root partition and the designated swap partition for swap. make sure you chose the right partition
[08:04] <wyld> marcus_: I did
[08:05] <qos> aoupi, how is the package containing the x-libs?
[08:05] <nikin> qos: http://customdesign.homelinux.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=21
[08:05] <marcus_> wyld: it might be an installer bug. have you tried remaking the partitions?
[08:05] <aoupi> qos: I don't know, sorry
[08:05] <tim167> eskimokisz: i guess so, for me it is anyway, is your keyboard set the way you expect it to be (like shift or no shift for numbers ?)
[08:05] <wyld> I'll try that
[08:05] <nikin> qos: i have folowed that howto, and worked just fine
[08:06] <wyld> marcus_: it'll be a while, I'm re-burning my disk
[08:06] <eskimokisz> yeah
[08:06] <qos> nikin, thx a lot :)
[08:06] <rizo> Hi
[08:06] <qos> nikin, i will give it a try
[08:06] <marcus_> wyld: i remember reading somewhere ther was a bug with manual partitioning. ive never had it, but i understand it's there.
[08:06] <rbil> nikin: what are u doing posting my website? :-)
[08:06] <nikin> oki
[08:06] <pike_> marcus_: i wrote a very simple script to connect to windows shares for a buddy of mine.  hes always bugging me about 'hacking' into things ;p and i thought it would keep him happy for a while.  its just a few commands but gives an idea of syntax and stuff if you want me to pm it to you.
[08:06] <rizo> I need help i am having ubuntu shutdown problems
[08:06] <marcus_> wyld: im here for a bit so no trouble.
[08:06] <nikin> rbil :D its yours?
[08:06] <theidiotthatisme> trainer: What model Dell do you have?
[08:06] <rizo> when i shutdown ubuntu unloads but the machine does not shut down
[08:06] <stewski> HS^ it booted?
[08:06] <rbil> yeh
[08:06] <wyld> marcus_: is Xchat bundled with the base install?
[08:07] <rbil> running here on a local box
[08:07] <marcus_> wyld: no
[08:07] <unfun> !surround
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about surround - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <wyld> hmmm
[08:07] <wyld> dang it
[08:07] <nikin> rbil: LOL :D
[08:07] <trainer> theidiotthatisme: inspiron 1501
[08:07] <hou5ton> every now and then I boot up without the DSL line plugged in my laptop, but when I then plug in the cable, the programs (FireFox, Gaim, etc.) don't pick up on the fact that they are now connected. I have been restarting the computer so they connect. Isn't there a command or something I can run instead?
[08:07] <jannu1> whats good program for .rar files?
[08:07] <xmOD> archive managet
[08:07] <xmOD> !rar
[08:07] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:07] <theidiotthatisme> trainer: No promises but I will look it up to see if anyone else has a similar issue
[08:07] <marcus_> pike: i am going to try something else first that may fix it. if not then I would appreciate.
[08:08] <jannu1> thx
[08:08] <xmOD> sure
[08:08] <stefg> hou5ton: ifdown and ifup
[08:08] <nikin> i go for a sec
[08:08] <trainer> theidiotthatisme: thanks I'm trying to scour the forums at the moment too
[08:08] <twisties> wyld: When you move to the mounting options part of the installer. Does it automatically select the 18gb partition for "/"  ?
[08:08] <ceacro> hello
[08:08] <ceacro> room
[08:08] <HS^> stewski yes with the nolapic noapic options, but i have a second problem. it didnt recognise my graphic card
[08:08] <ceacro> world
[08:09] <HS^> stewski its very slow
[08:09] <eskimokisz> I tried setting up the root acct w/ the same pw as my user pw, and I'm not getting "Incorrect password" messages; it just loops back to the "Please enter password" dialog
[08:09] <HS^> to drag windows..and low resolution
[08:09] <ceacro> I have a linux question
[08:09] <hou5ton> stefg:   am I to guess that ifdown is a command to disconnect the internet connection, and ifup is the one I'm looking for when late to plug in the cable?
[08:09] <ceacro> for a guru
[08:09] <theidiotthatisme> trainer: Found something
[08:09] <Riyonuk> What would be my chances of getting a laptop with ubuntu for about $150?
[08:09] <xmOD> !ask
[08:09] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:09] <ceacro> I am trying to intall suse 10.2
[08:10] <ceacro> everything works fine
[08:10] <ceacro> til the computer goes white and blocked
[08:10] <aoupi> ceacro: this is the ubuntu channel :)
[08:10] <ceacro> nothing works more
[08:10] <theidiotthatisme> trainer: Apparently it's a common problem with that model. Try this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299929&page=6
[08:10] <svish> is there some way in ubuntu I can found out if I have ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 or 9600?
[08:10] <deepsa> ceacro, /join #suse
[08:10] <nikin> re
[08:10] <theidiotthatisme> trainer: Oops. Try the first page of that thread
[08:11] <stefg> hou5ton: right, bring the interface (e.g. eth0) down, then bring it up again. that will trigger a new dhcp requqest so you get connected. 'man ifconfig'  for more info
[08:11] <trainer> theidiotthatisme, checking...
[08:11] <aoupi> ceacro: you could try ubuntu instead
[08:11] <kazuka> how do i mount my ubuntu smbfs
[08:11] <xmOD> !samba
[08:11] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:11] <theidiotthatisme> trainer: Let me know if it helps
[08:12] <hou5ton> stefg:   thanks
[08:12] <qos> aoupi, doesn't work for me ... the server where i want thunar run from is a pure server installation ... i think that matters, right?
[08:13] <nikin> qos: did you restart the sshd?
[08:13] <aoupi> qos: yes, you will need to have the x libraries installed, but you don't need the entire xserver
[08:13] <eskimokisz> any ideas, tim?
[08:14] <Fireal> tim167: try http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218246&highlight=convert+mp3
[08:14] <Cypher> ubuntu is easy man
[08:14] <nikin> qos: if you have ssh and Xubuntu desktop installed then it must be fine
[08:14] <aoupi> qos: you must use the -X flag on ssh for it too work (ssh -X user@server)
[08:15] <tim167> eskimokisz: sorry, not really, what happens if you try "sudo ls" in a terminal
[08:15] <tim167> ?
[08:15] <marcus_> pike: I got it to work thanks
[08:15] <tim167> Fireal: thanks , looking now
[08:15] <marcus_> wyld: im still here just so you know
[08:15] <qos> nikin, yes ... setting really should be fine. i am doing this not the first time, what makes me confused more ... never had this error before...
[08:15] <wyld> marcus_:  ok
[08:15] <tim167> Fireal: soundconverter doesnt accept m4a files
[08:16] <wyld> marcus_:  it's not finished burning yet
[08:16] <xmOD> !m4a
[08:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:16] <eskimokisz> from the home directory, "Desktop" and "Examples"
[08:16] <kulik> I have kubuntu and I want to install wine (the emulator binary), to run exe files. The only thing I can find is the winelib that helps you compile windows things. Is there a way to install wine without compiling it? Also note that I have 64bit machine with 64bit Kubuntu.
[08:16] <wyld> twisties: I'm not sure, can't remember
[08:16] <xmOD> !wine
[08:16] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:16] <xmOD> see that kulik
[08:17] <aoupi> qos: you could install ubuntu-base on the server that shoud take care of dependencies(big install though) and then disable soo that gdm doesn't start automaticaly on boot
[08:17] <kulik> thanks
[08:17] <marcus_> wyld: holler when it is please
[08:17] <aoupi> qos: *ubuntu-desktop not base :)
[08:17] <leogregianin> hi to all, ULi PCI Fast Ethernet Controller by ULi Eletronics Inc., support ubuntu?
[08:18] <qos> aoupi, bad solution ;) thx anyway ...
[08:18] <aoupi> qos: what errors are you getting now?
[08:18] <rance> sorry, I was called away for awhile and I missed an answer if there was one, is there a way in a bash script to 1) check the ubuntu version, and 2) check to see if a package is installled before installing it?
[08:18] <exhav0k> how do i find out where my modem is, as in /dev/modem or /dev/ttyS#
[08:18] <Imsdel> can anyone tell me how to setup ndas on a ubuntu box? I have a new MG-35 which rocks but can't network to it from linux
[08:19] <xmOD> !ndas
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <kulik> xmOD: yes that wine guide seems straightforward, but it doesn't even show up in the Adept package manager, it seems wine doesn't have a package for 64bit kubuntu
[08:19] <aoupi> rance: 2) if the package already is installed and latest version it wont be installed/updated ;)
[08:19] <kulik> xmOD: I have it compiled on 64bit machine (gentoo) right next to the box :-D
[08:19] <balutix> hey i got a problem. i think it is my graphics card and not wine/cedega, when i run the test wit cedega, i get that "3D acceleration is not supported", any ideas on how i could fix this? its nvidia 6600, with the newest drives from nvidia.com
[08:20] <qos> aoupi, i played with the "export DISPLAY=:0.0" variable ... if i run this before thunar it loads a few seconds... but throws the same error
[08:20] <aoupi> qos: if you use ssh -X you don't need to play with the DISPLAY var
[08:20] <xmOD> @Kulik: Try using synaptic
[08:21] <rance> aoupi: ty
[08:21] <kulik> xmOD: I will try that (booting that machine right now), but does that make any difference? it doesn't work from the CLI either
[08:21] <qos> aoupi, so why my error : "Thunar: cannot open display: (null)"
[08:21] <HS^> my gforce video is not detected. how to fix?
[08:22] <HS^> qos i think it has to do with hostname for xfree
[08:22] <stefg> !nvidia | HS^
[08:22] <ubotu> HS^: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:22] <aoupi> qos: if you are ssh'ing from OSX try -Y instead of -X
[08:22] <xmOD> the package may be listed there.. also enable universe and multiverse  repositories
[08:22] <xmOD> !repositories
[08:22] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:22] <xmOD> !universe
[08:22] <Dragutin00> on my windows machine using mIRC, i could click a link on a certain site and have it open mIRC, connect to channel, and paste something in my clipboard
[08:22] <Dragutin00> how do i set that up for xchat and ubuntu?
[08:22] <stefg> !xchat
[08:22] <qos> HS^, hostname for xfree?
[08:22] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[08:23] <qos> aoupi, same result :(
[08:23] <disasm> There's one thing that's been driving me nuts... When an ssh key changes, I normally delete the line that has the host that changed from known_hosts, well newer ssh version now have some crypted hash or something for the name of the machine, so I have to delete the whole known_hosts file to trust a new key... Any way around this? some frontend or something to remove a known_host if it's key changes, or force a key change into known_hosts?
[08:23] <stefg> Dragutin00: rather ask that in #xchat
[08:23] <ewook> Dragutin00, that's automagically what I know
[08:23] <aoupi> qos: what OS are you connecting from?
[08:23] <qos> aoupi, ubuntu 6.10
[08:24] <Dragutin00> how about the clipboard thing tho?
[08:24] <Dragutin00> when i click the link, the text doesnt appear in clipboard
[08:24] <daedra> !irssi
[08:24] <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface IRC client ( "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes to try it out )
[08:24] <Dragutin00> is there any special way to make it sort of ....rout into linux clipboard?
[08:24] <rbil> qos: on your host machine try ... xhost +localhost
[08:25] <daedra> !vi
[08:25] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[08:25] <disasm> Dragutin00: it sounds like you want an irc://..... to open in xchat, you might be able to find some extension for firefox, or right some kind of script, but I'm not sure exactly how to go about it...
[08:25] <tim167>  Fireal: i just replaced ".ram" with ".m4a" and it works! the resulting mp3 is rathre large though...but it works, thanks!
[08:25] <xmOD> !chatzilla
[08:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chatzilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:26] <xmOD> try chatzilla for firefox dragutin00
[08:26] <Dragutin00> kk
[08:26] <Dragutin00> thanks all
[08:26] <qos> rbil, he doesn't know the command xhost...
[08:26] <aoupi> qos: install xorg on the serv
[08:27] <jah_raztah> how do i change the root of a partition to my current user name, it uses chroot but i don't remember how to use it
[08:27] <jah_raztah> i asked it like so long ago
[08:27] <jah_raztah> and still no response
[08:27] <qos> aoupi, thought i don't need the whole server?!
[08:27] <jah_raztah> and i waited patiently
[08:27] <_aibot_> !k010
[08:27] <adaptr> jah_raztah: chroot changes the root of your *system*; running this command without a working system in place *will* crash your machine
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about k010 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <xmOD> !root
[08:28] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:28] <aoupi> qos: soo much results from apt-cache searh xorg to look through :)
[08:28] <jah_raztah> no it is on a partition on my computer
[08:28] <jah_raztah> not my system drive
[08:28] <jah_raztah> like /media/hda2
[08:28] <adaptr> jah_raztah: then you do not understand what chroot does
[08:28] <aoupi> qos: maybe xserver-xorg-core will do
[08:28] <jah_raztah> yes i need to change the root so i can gain read and write access
[08:29] <jah_raztah> right now i don't have read and write access
[08:29] <jah_raztah> i mean
[08:29] <jah_raztah> i can read
[08:29] <jah_raztah> but not write
[08:29] <adaptr> jah_raztah: do you know what you are talking about ?
[08:29] <xmOD> wat is the partition?
[08:29] <jah_raztah> yes i do
[08:29] <xmOD> NTFS or FAT32?
[08:29] <qos> aoupi, maybe? ;)
[08:29] <adaptr> because I don't
[08:29] <jah_raztah> i can in here long ago and some on very knowledged told me the command to type
[08:29] <jah_raztah> and it worked
[08:29] <jah_raztah> it's ext3
[08:29] <Kasmainio> Hello. Can anyone tell me if it is possible to add programs to the keyboard shortcuts diaglog found in system->preferences>keyboard shortcuts ?
[08:29] <aoupi> qos: worth a shot
[08:29] <xmOD> then mounting it should do the trick
[08:29] <jah_raztah> no it wouldn't
[08:30] <Skyrail> is there a room for the server version of ubuntu?
[08:30] <jah_raztah> i remember the person telling me something like sudo chroot -r /media/hda2 username:username
[08:30] <macd> dont think so
[08:30] <jah_raztah> but for some reason that commeand doesn't work
[08:30] <qos> i am totally confused now, tried it with another server ... there i works ... but not on mine. i installed both the same way ....
[08:30] <kazuka> how does ubuntu printing works
[08:31] <stefg> !print
[08:31] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:31] <rbil> qos: can you launch a GUI app on the problem host?
[08:31] <kazuka> stefg my printer is upstairs and i am wondering if my epson usb printer will be detected
[08:31] <kazuka> does cups handle it?
[08:32] <qos> rbil, its a pure server ... never tried it. it no x-server on it ...
[08:32] <stefg> kazuka: epson is best supported brand in linux... so you should possibly be lucky
[08:32] <jhteres> how can i get restricted audio formats codecs?
[08:32] <jah_raztah> adaptr,  xmOD do you know how to use the chroot command to change the root of an entire partition
[08:32] <jah_raztah> if so can u tell me
[08:32] <rbil> qos: well u can't run Xwindows programs on a host that isn't running Xwindows
[08:32] <pike_> kazuka: linuxprinting.org is the place to search for that answer
[08:32] <kazuka> thanks
[08:32] <sleepy007> !build-essentials
[08:32] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:33] <nikin> qos: is any xserver installed on the other server?
[08:33] <adaptr> jah_raztah: yes I do, but that is not what you want
[08:33] <xmOD> !chroot
[08:33] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[08:33] <jah_raztah> yes it is
[08:33] <jah_raztah> it is exactly what i want
[08:33] <kazuka> ive ran linux so many times but not tried to print with it
[08:33] <adaptr> jah_raztah: you said you wanted write access to a partition
[08:33] <jah_raztah> i kno because it was the solution before as well
[08:33] <jhteres> i have mp3s and wmas how can i play them in ubuntu?
[08:33] <jah_raztah> i re installed my ubuntu
[08:33] <adaptr> jah_raztah: the solution to what ?
[08:33] <qos> nikin, dont think so...
[08:33] <jah_raztah> the same problem
[08:33] <jhteres> ??
[08:33] <adaptr> jeez
[08:33] <jah_raztah> can u just tell me the command
[08:34] <jhteres> plz help
[08:34] <pike_> kazuka: well maybe google search line site:linuxprinting.org epson modelnumber
[08:34] <adaptr> jah_raztah: what is/was the problem
[08:34] <jhteres> i need a codec or something?
[08:34] <stefg> kazuka: what are you trying? Install a printer on your machine or share a prnter over the network?
[08:34] <wyld> marcus_: holler
[08:34] <qos> rbil, thought MY xserver on MY machine will get connected via ssh to the process running on the host?!
[08:34] <aoupi> jhteres: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-74857744ddf74499c6447a19c7e94a2fcb382e0c
[08:34] <jah_raztah> adaptr, it's simple just tell me how to use that command i accept all responsibilty
[08:34] <adaptr> jah_raztah: how can I tell you what to do when I don't know what your problem is ?
[08:35] <adaptr> jah_raztah: if all you want is to be superior then go read the chroot man page
[08:35] <jah_raztah> sudo chroot  (command)  /media/hda2 username:userid
[08:35] <jah_raztah> i need to know that command in between
[08:35] <rbil> qos: nope doesn't work that way. when u ssh to a host, the gui app is run on the host and sent over to local machine
[08:35] <adaptr> jah_raztah: chroot *is* a command - and the wrong one for you
[08:35] <jah_raztah> no no
[08:35] <jah_raztah> it's the right onw
[08:35] <jah_raztah> one*
[08:35] <adaptr> jah_raztah: how do you know this ?
[08:35] <qos> rbil, so i have to install an xserver on my host?
[08:35] <jah_raztah> seveas or someone told me before
[08:36] <jah_raztah> when i upgrade to dapper
[08:36] <jah_raztah> and now i'm on edgy
[08:36] <jah_raztah> it's the same problem
[08:36] <stefg> !enter | jah_raztah
[08:36] <ubotu> jah_raztah: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:36] <adaptr> jah_raztah: I still have not heard what you are trying to do
[08:36] <rbil> qos: and whatever gui apps u want to run on the host ... but my question is why? if it's a headless server, why have gui's running?
[08:36] <jah_raztah> ok what i am trying to do is change the root of a partition
[08:36] <jah_raztah> chroot is the command to do that right?
[08:37] <qos> rbil, that was it ... because it is handy to use thunar to move files on the server.
[08:37] <adaptr> jah_raztah: and again, I am forced to ask: what do you mean by "change the root of a partition" ? the sentence does not make sense
[08:37] <adaptr> jah_raztah: no, like I said before, that is not what chroot does
[08:37] <nikin> rbil : there are reasons... like i use mine to render in blender
[08:37] <adaptr> jah_raztah: you may mean you want to change the *mount point* of a partition - which is simple
[08:37] <rbil> qos: use a cli based program like midnightcommander
[08:38] <aoupi> jah_raztah: chroot puts you in a jail where you can't go outside of it, soo lets say you are chrooted to your home, then you can't accesss anything outside of it
[08:38] <jah_raztah> no i don't need to change any point i need to change the user read write acess
[08:38] <adaptr> jah_raztah: depending on what is on th epartition
[08:38] <tuna-fish-> does anyone know a tool similar to atitool for linux? No need for the overclocking parts, but a program that intesively tortures the GPU and checks the results
[08:38] <adaptr> jah_raztah: then please say so, and don't bandy around terms you don't understand
[08:38] <pike_> jah_raztah: often just 'chroot /mnt/foo' wow just looked at chroot man page.. it sucks
[08:38] <jah_raztah> no but last time
[08:38] <jah_raztah> chroot was the command some here told me
[08:38] <jah_raztah> and it worked
[08:38] <adaptr> jah_raztah: to change the access permissions for a mounted partition you have to change the entry in fstab and re-mount the partition
[08:39] <rbil> stefg: could it be called X-server to serve xwindows apps?
[08:39] <Skyrail> Ever since I upgraded FireFox yesterday it's gone all funny and takes 3 tries to open and some of my addons won't work, any idea how to go back to the version before?
[08:39] <qos> rbil, false alert. that wasn't the clue... omg ...
[08:40] <jah_raztah> the paritition belonged to my old ubuntu install, and now it's automatically mounted by ubuntu when i reinstalled edgy but using a new username now so i have to change the drive from using my old user to my new username
[08:40] <Skyrail> Now Firefox won't open at all
[08:40] <adaptr> jah_raztah: "belonged to" - where was it mounted under the old installation ? under /home ?
[08:40] <stefg> rbil: right, an X-Server is /not/ a graphics driver. So if you have no X-server on a bx you can't expect ssh -X to work
[08:40] <Skyrail> This just goes from bad to worse :(
[08:41] <jah_raztah> in /media/hda2 as it is now
[08:41] <adaptr> Skyrail: still struggling I see ;-)
[08:41] <jah_raztah> the default ubuntu does for me automatically
[08:41] <rbil> stefg: yeh, and u also need to have gui apps on the host that u want to run remotely
[08:41] <Skyrail> adaptr: now it's firefox :( I'm installing Ubuntu server on the PC next to me, but I wanted to use this PC to learn off the wiki and get help
[08:41] <adaptr> jah_raztah: that is simply because the new ubuntu detects that it was Ubuntu before, and doesn't mess with it
[08:42] <jah_raztah> no but that drive was not a system parition it was simple a partition wher ei kept documents and pictures
[08:42] <stefg> qos: are you reading what rbil said, and got the concept of X?
[08:42] <adaptr> jah_raztah: open /etc/fstab in an editor: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[08:42] <jah_raztah> ok done
[08:42] <adaptr> jah_raztah: and post the line that mounts hda2
[08:43] <pike_> Skyrail: first thing   pkill firefox; mv ~/.firefox ~/.firefox-old; rm -fr ~/.firefox; --just to be sure then restart firefox.  not sure if firefox 2 is under .firefox or .mozilla
[08:43] <jah_raztah> UUID=07868ed4-5de3-47a9-babc-54a5dce4683f /media/hda2     ext3    defaults        0       2
[08:43] <liam_> hello
[08:43] <Skyrail> pike_: erm, ok I'll give that a try
[08:43] <liam_> i need help with ubuntu
[08:43] <liam_> if anyone could
[08:43] <deadlyallance319> what is the dbs
[08:43] <adaptr> jah_raztah: and what does "ls -l /media" show ?
[08:43] <stefg> !anyone | liam_
[08:43] <ubotu> liam_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:43] <rbil> stefg: does the runlevel a host is running at also impact on whether X-server is running?
[08:44] <stefg> rbil: yes
[08:44] <adaptr> jah_raztah: "ls -l /media | grep hda2" would be is enough
[08:44] <rbil> well maybe all qos has to do is change runlevel?
[08:44] <jah_raztah> drwxrwxr-- 105 user user 16384 2007-01-02 18:46 hda2
[08:44] <adaptr> stefg: not under Ubuntu, 2~5 are all multiuser X
[08:44] <qos> stefg, i have read it ...
[08:44] <rbil> if he says that server is the same as one that works
[08:44] <stefg> adaptr: and waht about S ?
[08:44] <wyld> marcus_: I just marked the re-format box, and it worked
[08:44] <screach> I finally go wifi working after two days of trying but I guess the next question is should I have to keep doing dhclient every few minitues
[08:44] <adaptr> jah_raztah: and your username is not "user", I take it ?
[08:44] <screach> did anyone get that message
[08:44] <adaptr> stefg: what about it ?
[08:44] <jah_raztah> it is
[08:44] <liam_> right i need to download kde through the package manager
[08:45] <stefg> adaptr: that's the runlevel in which no X is running in ubuntu
[08:45] <adaptr> jah_raztah: then you should have full access to it
[08:45] <jah_raztah> ohh my current username?
[08:45] <adaptr> stefg: erm.. not really, it is the bootstrap portion of the startup.. S, gettit
[08:45] <qos> rbil, stefg, the confusing thing is that there are 2 identical server ... but on one its runs and on the the other it does not.
[08:45] <jah_raztah> no my current username is different
[08:45] <mharding> what is the best torrent download program for linux
[08:45] <borel> laldi nao consigo entra no orkut
[08:45] <xmOD> bit torrent
[08:45] <xmOD> its pre installed
[08:45] <pike_> mharding: i find azureus to bloated. i use ktorrent
[08:45] <roflarn> mharding: utorrent=)
[08:45] <jah_raztah> in my old dapper install it was user and now it is jah
[08:45] <Skyrail> pike_: I did it, just about to see if it workd :)
[08:45] <Skyrail> *worked
[08:46] <xmOD> !torrent
[08:46] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[08:46] <adaptr> jah_raztah: yers, that's the one that needs access, but I don't understand this - the permissions also grant the "users" group write access, and everybody is a member of that
[08:46] <rbil> qos: compare /etc/ssh/sshd_config files then
[08:46] <mharding> is there a utorrent linux client
[08:46] <green_earz> mharding: bittornado-gui
[08:46] <jah_raztah> i cannot modify files for some reason though
[08:46] <xmOD> no
[08:46] <liam_> so theres no way to get kde in ubuntu?
[08:46] <qos> rbil, already did ... matching exacly
[08:46] <mbb> roflarn: utorrent? via wine?
[08:46] <liam_> even from the apt get/
[08:46] <xmOD> !kde
[08:46] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[08:46] <adaptr> jah_raztah: but just to make sure (I have no idea what is in /media/hda2) chown it all to your username
[08:47] <rbil> qos: this line in particular ... X11Forwarding yes
[08:47] <jah_raztah> yes
[08:47] <jah_raztah> chown
[08:47] <jah_raztah> that is the command
[08:47] <adaptr> jah_raztah: that may be because of specific permissions in subdirectories of /media/hda2
[08:47] <jah_raztah> i feel stupid
[08:47] <jah_raztah> u owned me adaptr
[08:47] <green_earz> mharding: or have a look at a torrent server " torrentflux "
[08:47] <jah_raztah> u were right all along chroot is not the command it was chown
[08:47] <xmOD> chown and chroot are very different jah_raztah
[08:47] <adaptr> jah_raztah: I have no particular desire to
[08:47] <jah_raztah> yes
[08:47] <jah_raztah> but u did
[08:47] <jah_raztah> good job man
[08:47] <jah_raztah> thanks
[08:47] <jah_raztah> how do i use chown
[08:47] <stephan21> how to i add my winblows hds to the slocate search database
[08:48] <stefg> qos: to cut a long story short: you need an X-server and a display manger on the host-box. so sudo apt-get install gdm shuld parovide the necessary packages
[08:48] <liam_> thanks obuto
[08:48] <adaptr> jah_raztah: man chown
[08:48] <iceman> Can anyone show me how to get w32codec ? I was using ubuntu dapper but it did not help much.
[08:48] <adaptr> !w32codecs
[08:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:48] <jah_raztah> ahh you are going to make me read
[08:48] <jrevell> ubuntu is good
[08:48] <adaptr> jah_raztah: not for the last time, either
[08:48] <jrevell> ubuntu is good
[08:48] <adaptr> !repeat | jrevell
[08:48] <ubotu> jrevell: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:48] <Reliant> My ubuntu freezes on boot without an error message. The last thing I see is "intel8x0_measureac97_clock"
[08:48] <qos> stefg, u are wrong. i checked it on the second server ... nothing of these packages are installed...
[08:49] <sam_uk> hi what is the best thing to do screen capture videos (including sound from microphone?)
[08:49] <adaptr> Reliant: what happens when you boot the rescue option
[08:49] <Fireal> !patience
[08:49] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:49] <[1] theflyingfool> does anyone know a program a program other than open office, also free, that allows compatabliity with msoffice
[08:49] <deepsa> sam_uk, istanbul, xvidcap
[08:49] <Reliant> That is what happens when I boot in rescue
[08:49] <Reliant> normal boot, it hangs at basic networking
[08:49] <xmOD> !word
[08:49] <stephan21> how to i add my winblows hds to the slocate search database
[08:49] <stephan21> how to i add my winblows hds to the slocate search database
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about word - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <stephan21> sry
[08:49] <deepsa> [1] theflyingfool, abiword?
[08:49] <[1] theflyingfool> does abiword work with ms format things?
[08:49] <sam_uk> deepsa Thanks, both together or are they options?
[08:50] <jah_raztah> thanks for the help adaptr
[08:50] <screach> I finally go wifi working after two days of trying ... I guess the next question is should I have to keep doing dhclient every few minitues
[08:50] <wyld> what does "nice" mean in gnome system monitor?
[08:50] <pike_> stephan21: if you mount them and the do sudo locate -u it doesnt add em?
[08:50] <Reliant> the only change I'd made since my last boot, I tried changing my PS/2 mouse with another one, KDE went nuts, and I rebooted, and it never came back up
[08:50] <deepsa> sam_uk, both are options you can choose one
[08:50] <insomninja> do anyone know how I can start seamonkey from terminal?
[08:50] <deepsa> [1] theflyingfool, ya
[08:50] <deepsa> insomninja, seamonkey
[08:50] <sam_uk> deepsa do you have a personal preference?
[08:50] <deepsa> sam_uk, xvidcap
[08:50] <adaptr> stephan21: jah_raztahnp
[08:50] <stefg> [1] theflyingfool: abiword uses a couple of filters from the OOo project now, which enables it to open /some/ .doc's. But it's not perfect
[08:50] <adaptr> shiit :)
[08:51] <liam_> what about to download the xchat client
[08:51] <sam_uk> thanks
[08:51] <liam_> i dont know how to search through the packages :S !
[08:51] <adaptr> stephan21: /etc/updatedb.conf has a PRUNE section that is *not* indexed - you'll see that /media is in there
[08:51] <deepsa> liam_, sudo apt-get install xchat in terminal
[08:51] <Reliant> How can I get more details on what's failing? I could boot off a boot CD to access my drive, but I don't know what to look for or where to look
[08:51] <insomninja> deepsa, bash: seamonkey: command not found
[08:51] <liam_> have already tried it
[08:51] <adaptr> pike_: no, it doesna ;-)
[08:52] <deepsa> insomninja, is it installed
[08:52] <Skyrail> pike_: thank you so much for helping me fix that :D
[08:52] <pike_> [1] theflyingfool: ive found it good for viewing but i wouldnt make changes and resave or anything
[08:52] <liam_> it says no package
[08:52] <stefg> Reliant: what's the trouble?
[08:52] <mharding> is there away to run kde programs in gnome
[08:52] <[1] theflyingfool> are
[08:52] <adaptr> mharding: just install them
[08:52] <Reliant> stefg: hangs on boot with no error message in both normal boot and rescue boot
[08:52] <rbil> mharding: as far as I know, they all do
[08:53] <insomninja> deepsa: It should be, I ran the installer...
[08:53] <deadlyallance319> what is the dbs?
[08:53] <green_earz> Reliant: have a look in your xorg logs  they be in /var/log
[08:53] <deepsa> deadlyallance319, its not dbs its dbus
[08:53] <stephan21> adaptr: what does that mean
[08:53] <kazuka> anyone programming for linux here
[08:53] <stefg> Reliant: so the kernel gets booted (meaning that grub is ok) but fails to bring the machine up?
[08:53] <deepsa> kazuka, ya i am
[08:53] <charle97> io_error, is fedora your favorite distro?
[08:53] <adaptr> stephan21: what do you mean what does that mean ? updatedb.conf is the configuration for slocate
[08:54] <Reliant> yeah, the kernel comes up. The last message is early in the boot process (after "basic networking" message). The last event is intel8x0_measureac97_clock
[08:54] <Reliant> after loading my mouse driver
[08:54] <xmOD> wats ur chipset reliant?
[08:54] <stephan21> adaptr: i see /media can i just add the hd's in their
[08:54] <stefg> Reliant: Intel HDA chipset?
[08:54] <Reliant> P4 CPU, checking chipset
[08:55] <adaptr> stephan21: those directories will *not* be indexed, so you need to remove /media and then run updatedb again
[08:55] <pike_> adaptr: nice tip there about updatedb thx
[08:55] <stefg> Reliant: intel hd-audio is still somewhat challenging on linux
[08:55] <Reliant> yeah, Intel chipset, 82801
[08:55] <sw33t> hey
[08:55] <sw33t> how can i see how much RAM i have on my ubuntu pc?
[08:55] <Reliant> I've been using this machine for weeks with no problem including sound
[08:55] <kazuka> deepsa: how do you reslove to name your bin program when you install it in /usr/bin
[08:55] <Skyrail> adaptr: any idea where I can learn more stuff about setting up Linux server edition as a file server?
[08:56] <xmOD> the prob started recently?
[08:56] <deepsa> kazuka, wtf
[08:56] <pike_> sw33t: cat /proc/meminfo  or /proc/cpuinfo  lost of nice stuff under /proc
[08:56] <adaptr> Skyrail: here ? :)
[08:56] <Reliant> yeah, about an hour ago, machine died when I changed my mouse
[08:56] <kazuka> deepsa: if there is a programname in your /usr/bin does make install resolve or make an error for it
[08:56] <adaptr> !samba | Skyrail
[08:56] <ubotu> Skyrail: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:56] <kazuka> just wondering
[08:56] <xmOD> usb mouse?
[08:56] <mwe> sw33t: free will show it as well
[08:56] <deepsa> kazuka, sudo make install
[08:56] <Reliant> PS/2. I've put my old one back, and also tried with no mouse, no change
[08:56] <stefg> Reliant: sounds like an IRQ conflict....
[08:56] <xmOD> yes
[08:56] <sw33t> thx type dis in terminal? im new.
[08:57] <sw33t> ?
[08:57] <xmOD> stefg is corrent
[08:57] <adaptr> sw33t: free -m, yes
[08:57] <mwe> sw33t: right ;)
[08:57] <mharding> is there a dock for ubunut
[08:57] <Reliant> ok, what can I do to detect and solve it? I think I can use a boot CD to get to my drive
[08:57] <Reliant> It's a Compaq with very everything built in
[08:57] <stefg> Reliant: have you tried a 'reset configuration'  in BIOS?
[08:57] <cablesm102> mharding, what do you mean about a dock?
[08:58] <pike_> mharding: like a place where ships harbor?
[08:58] <cablesm102> mharding, you can create a new panel with shortcuts to your programs.
[08:58] <Skyrail> thanks adaptr :)
[08:58] <Skyrail> !nfs
[08:58] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[08:58] <Fireal> sw33t: the system monitor has a nice little display of you mem size and usage also (if you like pictures)
[08:58] <mharding> like osx has
[08:58] <cablesm102> mharding, right click on a panel (top or bottom), click Create New Panel, and drag it into the right place
[08:58] <deepsa> mharding, gdesklets has a starter bar looks just like that one
[08:58] <Reliant> stefg: no. I'll give that a try, play around in the BIOS. I'm using the same hardware here (dual boot between Linux and Windows), so I'll play around and BBL. Thanks for the tips and the help
[08:59] <mharding> anything else
[08:59] <cablesm102> mharding, then right click on it, click Add To Panel, click Application Launcher, and choose your app. Rince and repeat
[08:59] <cablesm102> *rinse
[08:59] <deadlyallance319> what is the dbs?
[08:59] <sw33t> thx
[08:59] <lcmg> de pm
[08:59] <lcmg> si
[08:59] <lcmg> ya lo se joder
[08:59] <lcmg> dep m igor
[08:59] <lcmg> como va esto
[08:59] <deepsa> lcmg, wtf
[08:59] <asdf__> can anyone tell me a package to upload a file via FTP form the terminal?
[08:59] <lcmg> aguien habla castellano
[08:59] <lcmg> no
[09:00] <sw33t> WTF 503 mg i used to have 1 gig.
[09:00] <cablesm102> sw33t, what?
[09:00] <Fireal> sw33t: is 503 the usage or total size?
[09:00] <sw33t> says i have 503MiB
[09:00] <pike_> asdf__: what do you mean? just howto upload files via ftp?
[09:01] <mwe> sw33t: under total?
[09:01] <sw33t> hlds@hlds:~/Clan$ free
[09:01] <sw33t>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[09:01] <sw33t> Mem:        515796     398804     116992          0      43996     195876
[09:01] <sw33t> -/+ buffers/cache:     158932     356864
[09:01] <sw33t> Swap:       433712          0     433712
[09:01] <asdfasdf> pick_: no i want to upload files via FTP from the terminal
[09:01] <asdfasdf> pike_:no i want to upload files via FTP from the terminal
[09:01] <stefg> !mc | asdf__
[09:01] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-5 (edgy), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[09:01] <mwe> sw33t: pasting in here might make the ops angry even if it's just a few lines
[09:02] <sw33t> my bad.
[09:02] <mike> How is midnight commander?
[09:02] <stefg> good
[09:02] <mike> I want something better than nautilus.
[09:02] <mwe> sw33t: but you say you have 1G installed?
[09:02] <sw33t> yea
[09:02] <stefg> mike: mc is for the *console*
[09:02] <cablesm102> mike, it's like nautilus, but with ftp and works in the terminal
[09:02] <mwe> odd
[09:03] <mike> oh
[09:03] <asdfasdf> does anyone know of a package that allows you to upload FTP from the terminal?
[09:03] <sw33t> i use it for a hlds czero server.
[09:03] <Fireal> sw33t:  does your BIOS recognize 1G?
[09:03] <mwe> sw33t: is it detected at boot time?
[09:03] <mwe> sw33t: does the bios recognize it?
[09:03] <stefg> mike: consider gnome-commander if you want a classical two-pane filemanager
[09:03] <mike> I'm looking for a graphical manager like nautilus yet better, but I don't know any.
[09:03] <sw33t> i never chek boot time i vnc it ill check.
[09:04] <sw33t> and yes it used to say 1g
[09:04] <sw33t> brb leme c.
[09:04] <mwe> yeah
[09:04] <sw33t> quit
[09:04] <pike_> asdfasdf: you dont want to just type ftp? then midnight commander is a good terminal app. are you trolling ? :)
[09:04] <liam_> now ive installed the kde package how do i use it?
[09:05] <stefg> mike: nautilus is a core part of gnome, so you just can't replace that. What's wrong with it (apart from being a loose collection of spaghetti-code snippets) ? :-)
[09:05] <asdfasdf> pike_: what's the syntax for ftp
[09:05] <mwe> liam_: choose kde at the login screen
[09:05] <liam_> oh ok cheers
[09:05] <mike> I guess it's alright.
[09:05] <mike> Another question, what's a good html editor for gnome?
[09:06] <pike_> asdfasdf: either just ftp then enter then atp ftp> you can type ? for help.  to connect at ftp> open site.com
[09:06] <asdfasdf> pike_: i'm trying to connect and upload in one command
[09:06] <deepsa> can i get fiesty from torrent if so please provide link
[09:06] <pike_> asdfasdf: i wrote a script for that i can email you if you pm me your email
[09:07] <stefg> !feisty
[09:07] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[09:08] <derrik> deepsa: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-1/
[09:09] <mwe> do they gather and get loaded to come up with the ubuntu code names? ;)
[09:09] <asdfasdf> pike_: you get that?
[09:09] <pike_> asdfasdf: ill pastebin it one sec
[09:09] <asdfasdf> pike_: thx
[09:10] <pike_> asdfasdf: nope justa sec
[09:10] <liam_> can someone help me how to browse through packages with apt-get?
[09:11] <deepsa> derrik, thanks i am downloading
[09:11] <asdfasdf> liam_: apt-cache search
[09:11] <derrik> deepsa: np, having tried feisty yet, let me know how it goes
[09:11] <stefg> liam_: apt-cache search [regexp] 
[09:12] <deepsa> derrik, sure
[09:12] <pike_> asdfasdf: only thing i have is one i setup for sunray use let me get the sun internal stuff out of it
[09:12] <asdfasdf> ok
[09:12] <HS^> somewhere i messed up with the nvidia installing.. i have a black screen now.  how do i exit xfree86?
[09:12] <HS^> crtl -alt -backspace just restarts it
[09:13] <mwe> HS^: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop will exit X promptly
[09:13] <marcus_> is there a way that i can copy files to a different directory without logging in as root?
[09:13] <HS^> mwe yes but i cant get to any command line
[09:13] <mwe> HS^: ctrl-alt-f1
[09:13] <HS^> because screen is black
[09:13] <Valmarko> Someone could tell me how to permanently mount the first partition of the hard-drive ( Windows is located there and I would like to have acess to some media resources)
[09:13] <stefg> HS^: ctrl-alt-f1 to go to a non-X terminal. login and 'sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop'
[09:13] <HS^> mwe nothing
[09:13] <HS^> ctrl-alt-f1 does nothing
[09:13] <mwe> HS^: then it's locked up. boot to safe mode (single user)
[09:14] <jvai> hey ppl, happy new years..
[09:14] <HymnToLife> !ntfs | Valmarko
[09:14] <ubotu> Valmarko: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:14] <Valmarko> tanck you
[09:14] <mwe> HS^: does the caps-lock key make the light toggle?
[09:14] <liam_> on xchat now cheers guys
[09:14] <HS^> i already booted it
[09:14] <mwe> HS^: does the caps-lock key make the light toggle?
[09:14] <HS^> mwe .. i already rebooted..
[09:14] <mwe> HS^: does the caps-lock key make the light toggle?
[09:15] <HS^> ..
[09:15] <HS^> im in windows now. yes it toggeles
[09:15] <mwe> HS^: then it's not hard-locked
[09:15] <HS^> i REBOOTED
[09:15] <HS^> ..
[09:15] <mwe> HS^: to safe mode or what? I dont follow
[09:16] <Tajmox> ! intel
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <Tajmox> ! video
[09:16] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[09:16] <HS^> i rebooted into windows, finfing out the exact name of chipset
[09:16] <liam_> it doesnt find anything for superkaramba?
[09:16] <Roconda> hey, my splash screen doesn't show on a boot up, it does show when I shut my computer down. how to solve it so it will show by the boot???
[09:16] <pike_> asdfasdf: ok i pulled most of the loops and stuff out. it should still work as long as you run it from the same directory the file is in. give you an idea of syntax at least   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/474/
[09:17] <Tajmox> How do I install Intel graphics driver?
[09:17] <asdfasdf> thank you, pike_ i will have a look
[09:18] <Reliant> Well, it's not an IRQ conflict. I disabled the extra USB ports, the audio, and the network in the BIOS, and I got the same error
[09:19] <Reliant> I did ctrl+alt+del at the point where it freezes, and I got a maintenence terminal to prod around the logs, didn't see anything that stood out
[09:19] <Roconda> hey, my splash screen doesn't show on a boot up, it does show when I shut my computer down. how to solve it so it will show by the boot???
[09:19] <stefg> Reliant: hmmm, starnge
[09:20] <iceman> !w32codec
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <iceman> !w32codecs
[09:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:20] <Reliant> I did see one from hcid where it couldn't find /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
[09:20] <asdfasdf> pike_: I'm looking for something like gftp username:password@server *.jpg to upload all jpg files in the directory is something like that possible?  i'm a n00b obviously...
[09:20] <Rondom> asdfasdf: wput
[09:21] <Reliant> and AC'97 0 Analog subsection not ready (could be from disabling the audio hardware)
[09:21] <asdfasdf> Rondom: what's the full syntax?
[09:21] <western> ubuntu don't recognise my usb harddisc. why? (whindwos does)... if i open a terminal with "lsusb" nothing is recognized...
[09:21] <xtknight> does anyone have the link to the latest nvidia beta driver?
[09:21] <xtknight> their beta page is corrupted
[09:21] <xtknight> http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_rel70betadriver.html
[09:21] <Rondom> asdfasdf: don't know by heard, install it using synaptic or via sudo apt-get install wput and read man wput
[09:21] <Rondom> heard=heart
[09:22] <western> ubuntu does not recognize my usb harddisc. why? (windwos does)... if i open a terminal with "lsusb" nothing is recognized...
[09:22] <icheyne> I need to use my old scanner - which application do I use?
[09:22] <jvai> western try "sudo rmmod ehci-hcd" then see if it will work
[09:22] <xtknight> western: is the host controller even recognized?
[09:23] <neildarlow> icheyne: kde or gnome desktop?
[09:23] <icheyne> gnome
[09:23] <mwe> xtknight: that link works to me, leads to http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9742/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9742-pkg1.run which seems to be working as well
[09:23] <western> sudo rmmod ehci-hcd
[09:23] <neildarlow> icheyne: xsane
[09:23] <xtknight> mwe: oh ok, thanks
[09:23] <icheyne> neildarlow: thanks mate :)
[09:23] <xtknight> mwe: get the 64 bit one by any chance?
[09:23] <mwe> xtknight: didn't try that one
[09:23] <xtknight> mwe: the page doesnt load at all for me
[09:23] <xtknight> mwe: well it loads but its all messed up
[09:24] <mwe> xtknight: you got to download link location
[09:24] <jvai> western: yes, that's what i need to do for usb storage, but aftr a reboot i have to do that again, it's not persistant
[09:24] <western> jvai: sudo rmmod ehci-h... ERROR: Module ehci_h does not exist in /proc/modules
[09:24] <asdfasdf> Rondom: that worked perfectly
[09:24] <mwe> xtknight: the mime type is broken
[09:24] <asdfasdf> pike_: thx for your help, i'm all set
[09:24] <jvai> oooh, it's already out??? wow
[09:24] <xtknight> mwe: i need the latest beta driver to support AIGLX though, i'm talking about this page here not rendering for me:  http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_rel70betadriver.html
[09:24] <mwe> xtknight: right click, save link as
[09:24] <jvai> western u r on dapper?
[09:24] <western> 6.10
[09:25] <jvai> ooooo
[09:25] <mwe> xtknight: yes
[09:25] <western> jvai 6.10
[09:25] <jvai> ok
[09:25] <jvai> weird
[09:25] <jvai> i dont kno what to tell u western
[09:25] <Rondom> asdfasdf: no prob
[09:26] <markus_nagler> anyone know how to assign a custom icon to a file type in 6.10?
[09:26] <liam_> is superkarambe availble to download through apt-get?
[09:26] <mwe> xtknight: go to that site, follow the link to the linux driver, right click the link in "step 2" then choose save link as. that works for me
[09:26] <ppianta> anyone know how to turn off the auto-commenting in 'vim-full' that is installed with ubuntu ?
[09:27] <ppianta> ie. when you paste something in from the clipboard it is all crooked
[09:27] <liam_> i cant find with the search function
[09:27] <western> jvai: its a new drive, bought it today. when i connected first, it worked, then i connected to windows and it worked, too. but now ubuntu does not recognize anymore, but windows does
[09:27] <mwe> ppianta: what if :set paste first?
[09:27] <tokomonx> hey all, can anyone help me get my sound workin, i'm using xunbuntu and i have a onboard sound card but it doesn't work, so i have another card that uses the same drivers, but i dunno how to get them
[09:28] <jvai> that's weird, ubuntu should recognise it everytyme
[09:28] <xtknight> mwe: gotcha...i hope that is the latest BETA driver though.  i know its the latest official but i had to go to nzone to get the latest BETA which apparently i need for AIGLX.  well i hope they implemented AIGLX in the latest official as per nvidia.com
[09:28] <stefg> !sound | tokomonx
[09:28] <ubotu> tokomonx: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:28] <deepsa> how to start apache service automatically at boot?
[09:28] <liam_> i cant find superkarambe using the apt-get
[09:28] <mwe> !info superkaramba
[09:28] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 515 kB, installed size 1408 kB
[09:28] <stefg> !repos | liam_
[09:28] <ubotu> liam_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:28] <Vlet> How does one take a netcard out of monitor mode?
[09:28] <mwe> liam_: enable universe if you haven't then spell it correctly ;)
[09:29] <liam_> i have sorry i keep doing that on hree
[09:29] <liam_> it doesnt find it when i search
[09:29] <jvai> western.. did u unmount it properly? or did u just pull the drive out? unmount = exit when u right clik on the drive
[09:29] <tokomonx> k ty
[09:29] <xtknight> mwe: alright, apparently it is, the nzone german link works for me and points to the the same version as on nvidia.com,  ill stop bothering you now ;)
[09:29] <mwe> xtknight: heh
[09:29] <eitan> Hello...
[09:29] <xtknight> eitan: hey..
[09:30] <mwe> liam_: then enable universe
[09:30] <liam_> enable universe?
[09:30] <liam_> whats that
[09:30] <eitan> Does anyone here know how to connect two computers for transferring files?
[09:30] <mwe> !universe | liam_
[09:30] <ubotu> liam_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:30] <western> jvai .... the first time i forgot to unmount :(
[09:30] <eitan> I have an ethernet lan interconnected with a router.
[09:31] <eitan> I'm running ubuntu on one and debian on another, and I want to connect them.
[09:31] <eitan> ... for transferring files.
[09:31] <jvai> aaaa, that's what happened... now, i wouldnt know how to get the mount fixed unless i do some googling @ western
[09:31] <neildarlow> eitan: you'll need an ftp or ssh daemon running on the target
[09:31] <pike_> eitan: i really like sshfs for mounting directories over ssh. but sftp or scp work as well
[09:31] <eitan> the target is an ubuntu computer.
[09:32] <jonah1980> hello is there a way to put a theme on my kde apps so they look like part of ubuntu gnome?
[09:32] <mwe> eitan: install/start the ssh server then login with ssh
[09:32] <eitan> How do I get a ssh running on the other computer... and is there an easier way?
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> eitan: install the 'ssh' package
[09:32] <pike_> eitan: assuming openssh-server is installed just sftp 192.168.0.5 -l username   then its just like ftp you can put filemane or  whatever
[09:32] <eitan> Where can I find the ssh server in ubuntu, or do I have to install it?
[09:32] <neildarlow> eitan: you could use rsync on both machines
[09:33] <mwe> eitan: you need to run some kind of file server service
[09:33] <mharding> is there a new ubuntu coming soon
[09:33] <mharding> \
[09:33] <pike_> mharding: april
[09:33] <tonyyarusso> eitan: (openssh-server is in the ssh metapackage, and not installed by default)
[09:33] <neildarlow> mharding: not for a little while
[09:33] <Balsamic_Chicken> hi i really neeed help setting up logitech quickcam pro 5000, i tried what little was on google but i think all the "guides" are missing obvious but important steps, i downloaded a bunch of stuff, but just don't know how to pull it together, one error msg in ekiga says color pallete format not recognized, some other things say the frame size isn't the same, some say no driver found, i don't even know what driver i'm
[09:33] <Balsamic_Chicken> supposed to use, sorry for long msg, and thx =)
[09:33] <Seta-San> not soon judging from their goals list
[09:33] <ozcu> slm
[09:33] <ozcu> millet
[09:33] <ozcu> D
[09:34] <mharding> any screens of it yet
[09:34] <HS^> i have trouble installing nvidia. i followed all steps. when i hit 'ctr-alt-backspace' the screen is black.
[09:34] <Una^> Hi, got some weird problem here.. I installed ubuntu normally, then couldn't install grub.. so I chrooted in and installed it... thing is now when I boot up - I seem to have no shell apart from busybox and half the binaries are invisible...
[09:35] <mwe> mharding: it probably looks the same as the current version using the same theme
[09:35] <deepsa> ok i got it
[09:35] <liam_> it says main resticted?
[09:35] <liam_> restricted?
[09:35] <mwe> liam_: that's good
[09:35] <pike_> Una^: heh
[09:35] <liam_> so....
[09:35] <western> jvai ... but why "lsusb" doesnt recognize any usb hardware? Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[09:36] <mwe> liam_: the links ubotu pointed to has a good short explanation of it
[09:36] <neildarlow> western: does dmesg show anything?
[09:36] <techfun> hey
[09:37] <jonah1980> hello is there a way to install a theme for kde apps so they match my gnome ubuntu setup? when i run kde apps they don't look right
[09:37] <jvai> western: even when u try a usbstorage disk?
[09:37] <Reliant> shucks, looked through the forums, don't see anything that'd help me :(
[09:37] <pike_> Una^: menu.list looks ok?
[09:37] <techfun> anyone running lyceum on Dapper?
[09:37] <mztriz> I did these tweaks (http://tvease.net/wiki/index.php?title=Tweak_ubuntu_for_speed) and my wireless internet stopped working
[09:37] <pike_> Una^: menu.lst
[09:37] <western> neildarlow: hub_port_status failed (err = -32)
[09:38] <neildarlow> western: well, that needs investigating
[09:38] <Una^> pike_, hmm, I seem to be lacking /boot :D
[09:38] <burepe> how can I check my mysql version?
[09:38] <Tom_Green> the ubuntu community is about to gain a new member... me! (with a lot of greenhorn questions) #1: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:38] <Tom_Green> which is more newbie friendly?
[09:38] <Reliant> when a computer boots up, what order does it run through the rc scripts for booting? To try and find out which boot script is the one hanging
[09:38] <neildarlow> Tom_Green: KDE or GNOME?
[09:38] <ianp> kubuntu is just ubuntu that uses KDE instead of GNOME as the desktop, right
[09:39] <mztriz> I did these tweaks (http://tvease.net/wiki/index.php?title=Tweak_ubuntu_for_speed) and my wireless internet stopped working
[09:39] <western> neildarlow: usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 51
[09:39] <Tom_Green> neildarlow: er... what?
[09:39] <ianp> mat|work: is it enabled in the networking control panel
[09:39] <neildarlow> Tom_Green: what's your preference?
[09:39] <cassidy_> hey guys, would somone help me to get dri working with my x1950 pro?
[09:39] <techfun> Tom, I'd start with Ubuntu, its easier to get going with
[09:39] <Una^> pike_, though that's impossible since the kernel is in there hmm...
[09:39] <techfun> then play with KDE later if you want
[09:39] <burepe> ubntu but that is personal choice. I find ubuntu easier to use but exwindows users might like kde because it is similar
[09:39] <cassidy_> i got the 8.32.5 drivers on but theres no dri and opengl lists mesa as the provider
[09:39] <Tom_Green> neildarlow: sorry, I've no clue what these two wordws mean
[09:39] <western> jvai .... the same effect with the usb key of my girlfriend :)
[09:40] <Tom_Green> ah... kde is more like windows gooooooooood!
[09:40] <pike_> Una^: you probably are booting a kernel to a different / i did that onetime accidently booted into ubuntu using my kernel from slackware parition or something
[09:40] <Tom_Green> thanks, burepe
[09:40] <jvai> western: google to the rescue! look @ what i found - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188288 just go to the end of that post
[09:40] <neildarlow> Tom_Green: take a look at the ubuntu and kubuntu screenshots and see which appeals most to you
[09:40] <mztriz> my wireless internet isn't working.
[09:41] <burepe> Tom_Green: kubuntu's gui is Kde. ubuntu's gui is gnome
[09:41] <Tom_Green> neildarlow: thanks!
[09:41] <Una^> pike_, well.. its kinda weird - its an intel mac, and fresh install so I can't see how there would be another kernel on there
[09:41] <cassidy_> anyone at all?
[09:41] <Seta-San> i prefer kde to gnome
[09:41] <western> jvai ... cool! i will test it and report after
[09:41] <JayRoe> are there other ways to run code other than the terminal?
[09:41] <pike_> Una^: you just did a simple grub-install ?
[09:41] <jvai> ok @ western
[09:41] <techfun> I do too Seta, but I start my employees on Gnome
[09:42] <a2k> why do you start people on gnome techfun?
[09:42] <eitan> ok... let me be more specific... is there any way to mount the hard drive of another computer on the lan on this computer's desktop or filesystem?
[09:42] <Roconda> hey, my splash screen doesn't show on a boot up, it does show when I shut my computer down. how to solve it so it will show by the boot???
[09:42] <Sutur> Catastrophe! I left my internal storage drive and external storage drive copying files overnight, when I wope up the computer had frozen, one of the drives can't be read and my root filesystem is complaining about things left right and centre. I don't know where to start and where to go for help, I am completely at a loss.
[09:42] <mztriz> my wireless internet isn't working...
[09:42] <neildarlow> techfun: why's that? i see KDE as more untuitive
[09:42] <a2k> It seems to me that KDE is more windows-ish
[09:42] <techfun> Gnome seems to be easier for people to handle precisely becuase its LESS like windows
[09:42] <Tajmox> burepe i find gnome to be more similar to windows
[09:42] <jonah1980> hello anyone here you can help get kde apps looking right in gnome? they don't match and how can i change this?
[09:42] <techfun> KDE is too windowsish  -  people think its going to be the same
[09:42] <poorenglish> eitan: see NFS or samba doc
[09:42] <Seta-San> what's wrong with windows?
[09:43] <a2k> i see, so you must break them away from M$, then build 'em up to linux?
[09:43] <burepe> Tom_Green: from my experience adding languages under ubuntu is much easier than kubuntu. so if that is a concern to you... Also, many more people use ubuntu than kubuntu so FAQs that you find are likely to be easier if you have kubuntu.
[09:43] <techfun> a2k - exactly
[09:43] <a2k> metaphorically speaking
[09:43] <Fireal> the great thing is that they are all different, so you have to try to see what suits YOU best
[09:43] <Tajmox> eitan samba if you're using windows filesystems   and nfs if you're using linux filesystems
[09:43] <a2k> good point
[09:43] <techfun> also,  i've had some stability issues with KDE and video drivers on the crap machines we buy
[09:43] <a2k> i started on KDE, then switched to gnome, and recently fell back in love with KDE
[09:43] <JayRoe> can someone tell me how I run a short script?
[09:43] <a2k> is there a performance diffrence between gnome, and KDE?
[09:43] <kcinna> has anyone had trouble getting azureus to work with firestarter firewall?
[09:44] <jonah1980> i've googled to the ends of time and back and there is nothing on making kde apps look right in ubuntu
[09:44] <Tom_Green> burepe: oh. that is of interest to me.
[09:44] <burepe> Tom_Green: also if you install in ubuntu and then do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" you can install kubuntu and use both. More support stuff is ubunutu suited
[09:44] <jvai> lol @ jonah
[09:45] <metres> Hi all, I have a keyboard configuration problem... I dont have the right keyboard and I got this error : loadkeys: error reading keyboard mode
[09:45] <a2k> the only reason i switched to Gnome was i was told that it uses less system overhead
[09:45] <pike_> JayRoe: 'bash scriptname'  or chmod +x scriptname then ./scriptname  you can check it to see what shell by doing like "head scriptname" youll see like #!/usr/bin/bash or something
[09:45] <techfun> a2k, not enough of a performance diffence to matter
[09:45] <wyld> I have a brand new install of ubuntu 6.06 x64 and it will start up just fine, but will not shut down. when i click on the shut down icon, and then the shut down button thingie in the dialog, all that happens is the screen goes blank, and two white boxes appear, both about the size of my pinkie finger nail, both are on one line, about 1/3 of the way down the screen, and one is on the left side, the other is about three inches away fro
[09:45] <jonah1980> Tom_Green, i'd recommend ubuntu not kubuntu - it's the original and more users and support
[09:45] <wyld> m the right side. the shutdown sound keeps replaying like a broken record, and nothing happens. any ideas? please?
[09:45] <a2k> thats what my subjective anyalisis told me
[09:45] <a2k> cool
[09:45] <Tom_Green> thanks, jonah1980
[09:45] <kcinna> what ip address would i add to allow any host to make connections at a port?
[09:45] <a2k> if you want KDE, i think Mepis is more refined, Ununtu for Gnome
[09:46] <Tom_Green> #2: 6.10 or 6.06 ?
[09:46] <a2k> *ubuntu
[09:46] <techfun> 6.06 Tom
[09:46] <jonah1980> jvai, hey it's not funny dude!! you'd think it'd be so simple, why does no one seem to wanna make everything look right...
[09:46] <techfun> Long Term Support
[09:46] <techfun> go to edgy later if you like
[09:46] <davmor2> wyld: do you have an Nvidia graphics card
[09:46] <wyld> no
[09:46] <eitan> Ok... is there an nfs gui front end that I can setup?
[09:46] <JayRoe> how do I run code outside the terminal?
[09:46] <burepe>  a2k don't you think that ubuntu is easier for beginniers than mepis?
[09:46] <ozo> hi
[09:46] <a2k> i really dont
[09:46] <b0ef> ehlo
[09:46] <burepe> really
[09:47] <Fireal> I second burepe
[09:47] <b0ef> anywhere to download the default theme (gtkrc) for ubuntu?
[09:47] <jvai> i kno jonah... i just use.. gnome... r there kde themes that would work for u? u may just need the right theme
[09:47] <davmor2> not sure then normally those problems occur with Nvidia cards
[09:47] <mharding> Can someone help me get beryl working on ubuntu
[09:47] <a2k> i fond there are less issues to resolve to get the system working with mepis, although, the menu structure is simpler
[09:47] <adaptr> mharding: Edgy ?
[09:47] <burepe> a2k I don't have much experience with mepis but I know that any other distro just made me cry in the end
[09:47] <jonah1980> jvai, but i only use gnome too, that's my problem - but i've got like amarok and a couple kde programs, when running them in gnome they just don't match but i don't know how to theme them in gnome!
[09:48] <burepe> a2k when I was first starting out.
[09:48] <JayRoe> adaptr, you know how I can run a code that won't stop when I close the terminal?
[09:48] <b0ef> JayRoe: nohup
[09:48] <pike_> JayRoe: the chmod +x scriptname once it has that x executable flag you should be able to run it from the gui might have to choose "run from terminal" when you doubleclick it.
[09:48] <adaptr> JayRoe: what "code" ? BLURBIEXJ%efefef ?
[09:48] <eitan> Is there an nfs gui front end that I can use to connect two linux computers for file transfer purposes?
[09:48] <burepe> Tom_Green: did you see that command I typed? save it somewhere.
[09:48] <adaptr> eitan: use scp for that, it's quicker
[09:48] <metres> Do anyone know why my keyboard changed after installation of ubuntu.desktop on a kubuntu ?
[09:49] <mharding> yes I am running edgy
[09:49] <techfun> yea eitan  ise sftp or scp
[09:49] <mztriz> my wireless internet isn't working...
[09:49] <adaptr> mharding: nvidia video card ?
[09:49] <JayRoe> adaptr, beryl --screen 0 & beryl --screen 1
[09:49] <burepe> eitan what is an nfs gui?
[09:49] <Tom_Green> burepe: ugh, commands! no, i didn't
[09:49] <jvai> oooo, riiight, i got some dev apps from kde also, same problem, quanta plus, wont even run, it just doesn't load, i'm afraid to uninstall it cause sumthin else may need it libraries :(
[09:49] <eitan> Network file system graphical user interface.
[09:49] <mharding> yes
[09:49] <neildarlow> eitan: Places|Network Servers... will do it
[09:49] <jonah1980> does no one else use a few kde apps within gnome? surely there is a way to make them match better?
[09:49] <adaptr> JayRoe: you don't use beryl-manager ?
[09:49] <burepe> go up to my last post to you Tom_Green
[09:49] <mztriz> my wireless internet isn't working...I've been using ubuntu for about 3 years and I've never had a problem with it.
[09:49] <mharding> with the beta drivers
[09:50] <eitan> ok I opened up the network servers window... now what?
[09:50] <adaptr> mharding: easy-peasy: 1. get nvidia accel X drivers, 2. add beryl repo, 3. apt-get beryl, 4. start beryl-manager
[09:50] <Fireal> jonah1980:  Amarok follows me no matter what desktop I have
[09:50] <JayRoe> adaptr, I do, but it can only activate the cube on one screen. I want two independent cubes.
[09:50] <adaptr> mharding: why beta ?
[09:50] <neildarlow> jonah1980: search the forums, there are threads on KDE apps in ubuntu
[09:50] <Tom_Green> burepe: thanks!
[09:50] <adaptr> JayRoe: beryl 0.1.4 has undependent cubes
[09:50] <Fireal> sorry disregard last post
[09:50] <Tajmox> eitan if the computer with nfs installed is properly connected to the network         it will show up in network servers
[09:50] <adaptr> JayRoe: use pricechild's repo
[09:50] <burepe> eitan do you know smb4k?
[09:51] <jvai> kde specific apps r just broke in gnome:(, i try to just stay w/ gnome apps
[09:51] <mharding> not sure
[09:51] <neildarlow> burepe: he said nfs not smb
[09:51] <mharding> what I start beryl the screen looks weird
[09:51] <adaptr> mharding: did your card work with the ubuntu drivers ?
[09:51] <mharding> yup
[09:51] <Tajmox> kde apps work great on my xubuntu machine and all use the same theme that i have set
[09:51] <techfun> i have the kde libraries install becuase i use filelight all the time
[09:51] <adaptr> mharding: so why change them for something unknown ?
[09:51] <mztriz> my wireless internet isn't working...I've been using ubuntu for about 3 years and I've never had a problem with it. It stopped working after I applied these 'tweaks' http://tvease.net/wiki/index.php?title=Tweak_ubuntu_for_speed
[09:51] <burepe> neildarlow: sorry I don't know nfs is?
[09:51] <Tom_Green> #3: desktop CD or alternate install CD?
[09:51] <adaptr> JayRoe: you've fallen off you chair, I can tell
[09:52] <Tajmox> mztriz : back trace your steps
[09:52] <techfun> Live Desktop CD is simplest
 -- so go undo the tweaks
[09:52] <mztriz> Tajmox, I deleted all of the stuff I did that had to do with teh inetnet
[09:52] <jonah1980> neildarlow, i can't find anything in forums about themeing kde apps in gnome
[09:52] <JayRoe> adaptr, it works perfectly. My only problem is that once I close the terminal, beryl shuts down on one of the monitors
[09:52] <mztriz> a2k, I did
[09:52] <techfun> I only use the Alternative CD on machines with < 384mb of ram
[09:52] <liquidengineer> Hello
[09:52] <Tajmox> mztriz it is a good idea to back up your /etc directory before doing any major system modification
[09:52] <jcruzlara> hi can anyone tell me what i should do about this configure: error: No C# 2.0 (gmcs) compiler found
[09:52] <pike_> JayRoe: thats where nohup comes in usually
[09:52] <adaptr> JayRoe: and starting beryl twice on diferent monitors solves this ?
[09:52] <mztriz> Tajmox, Yeah, but I didn't so... ?
[09:52] <mharding> how can I tell if beryl is working right
[09:53] <neildarlow> mztriz: try iwconfig. is your AP visible?
[09:53] <mharding> is there a test
[09:53] <burepe> Tom_Green: desktop. It is a live cd too. You can run it with out installing and if you want to install it has a gui set up
[09:53] <a2k> are you getting any errors?
[09:53] <mztriz> neildarlow, I
[09:53] <adaptr> mharding: hit ctrl-alt and grab the screen with your mouse....
[09:53] <MitchM> jcruzlara, Use Google.
[09:53] <mztriz> neildarlow, I'll check
[09:53] <mztriz> a2k, no
[09:53] <techfun> the Live CD also might help you detect any hardware issues
[09:53] <eitan> I don't know what smb4k is.
[09:53] <mharding> I don't have beryl loaded
[09:53] <mharding> when I do the screen gets weird
[09:53] <adaptr> mharding: well, how can you tell that it's working, then ?
[09:53] <jcruzlara> yea sorry i was just feeling lazy right now i've googled it though
[09:53] <adaptr> define "weird"
[09:53] <neildarlow> eitan: ignore smb4k, you don't want that
[09:53] <JayRoe> adaptr. If I use twinview, I rotate both cubes at the same time and I'm limited when it comes to defining custom resolutions.
[09:54] <Tajmox> smb4k - A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE
[09:54] <burepe> eitan: smb4k is a gui for a samba network. kde based
[09:54] <eitan> isn't samba for windows only?
[09:54] <MitchM> jcruzlara, Good man :)
[09:54] <Tajmox> no
[09:54] <adaptr> JayRoe: I said nothing about twinview - only that beryl 1.4 has options for multiple screens
[09:54] <Arsenick-TC2L> someone know how can i recover my ps2 mouse.. I had unplugged the mouse and I can't get it working again.. is it another way to recover my mouse then reboot ??
[09:54] <jvai> i dont kno why external wifi cards since dapper r not connecting, no1 has problems w/ the internal wifi cards
[09:54] <Tajmox> samba works for ext2/3
[09:54] <phr34ck> how can I add fonts to Ubuntu and use them ?
[09:54] <MitchM> eitan, SAMBA is used for file/printer sharing between linux & windows.
[09:54] <burepe> eitan:  you are just trying to network computers? all linux?
[09:54] <eitan> so do I want to install nfs-kernel-server?
[09:54] <MitchM> generalyl.
[09:54] <MitchM> generally*
[09:54] <JayRoe> adaptr, the options for multiple screens are very limited and only work with twinview.
[09:55] <pike_> eitan: its a good alternative to nfs
[09:55] <eitan> two computers on the lan ... both linux
[09:55] <Tajmox> nfs was a lot easier to set up
[09:55] <pike_> but insecure
[09:55] <neildarlow> eitan: just use rsync between the two machines. it's probably installed on both already
[09:55] <eitan> how do I rsync the machines?
[09:55] <MitchM> eitan, Listen to neildarlow
[09:55] <adaptr> JayRoe: donate me one of your screen and we'll consider it solved
[09:55] <Tajmox> eitan : i used ubuntuguide.org and it worked great
[09:55] <kane77> hi
[09:55] <burepe> eitan: yeah I didn't have to install anything to network just did it in the gnome settings
[09:55] <JayRoe> adaptr, that would be the tv then. It's yours if you collect it.
[09:56] <eitan> ok... please tell me how.
[09:56] <phr34ck> how can I add fonts to Ubuntu and use them ?
[09:56] <liquidengineer> What's the big difference between Ubuuntu and kubuntu?
[09:56] <Arsenick-TC2L> kde
[09:56] <ice_cream> hey, does anyone know how to make irc script that shows what song you're ecurrently listening to?
[09:56] <kitche> liquidengineer: the desktop environment
[09:56] <neildarlow> MitchM: some folks like to do things the hard way ;)
[09:56] <ice_cream> kubuntu comes w/ KDE already
[09:56] <HS^> i have trouble installing nvidia. i followed all steps. when i hit 'ctr-alt-backspace' the screen is black. it sais : Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[09:56] <HS^> someone knows why
[09:56] <MitchM> liquidengineer, Ubuntu uses Gnomes; Kubuntu uses KDE
[09:56] <pike_> liquidengineer: xubuntu xfce ubuntu gnome kubuntu kde
[09:56] <MitchM> neildarlow, Silly people.
[09:56] <burepe> eitan mine is in japanese so some of the words might be different but bear with me
[09:56] <kane77> I seen a script that would start multiple instances of Xserver with different WM's, but I cant find it... :( anyone knows?
[09:56] <mztriz> neildarlow, It says something like 'IEEE 802.11b ESS ID AP_Router...' and then 'sit0 No wireless extentions' 'vmnet1 no wireless extensions' 'vmnet8 no wireless extensions'
[09:56] <JayRoe> adaptr, can you tell me how to run a short code that isn't dependent on a terminal?
[09:56] <Tajmox> eitan : System -> Shared Folders
[09:56] <liquidengineer> I've got an old laptop (256 MB, 1 GHz original Athlon)
[09:56] <liquidengineer> I'd like to put some buntu on it
[09:57] <liquidengineer> but I'm not sure which one to use
[09:57] <adaptr> JayRoe: do you mean you don't want to start it from a terminal , or that you want it to keep running ?
[09:57] <MitchM> liquidengineer, Xubuntu
[09:57] <liquidengineer> MitchM: Oh?
[09:57] <Tajmox> liquidengineer : xubuntu is fast but regular ubuntu will work just fine too
[09:57] <adaptr> JayRoe: the term is "script", as in "shell script"
[09:57] <MitchM> JayRoe, <program> &
[09:57] <eitan> where can I find system ?
[09:57] <MitchM> liquidengineer, Xubuntu.
[09:57] <adaptr> MitchM: not gonna work if the code run returns
[09:57] <neildarlow> mztriz: is there a nn:nn:nn:nn:nn:nn hex string displayed next to "Access Point:" ?
[09:57] <mharding> how do I know that xgl is installed right
[09:58] <liquidengineer> There's a slight possibility of upgrading the memory to 384 sometime in the future
[09:58] <MitchM> adaptr, For all general purposes; '&'
[09:58] <mztriz> neildarlow, I don't believe so, but met me go check again.
[09:58] <adaptr> mharding: you don't need xgl in Edgy
[09:58] <mharding> how can I edit my x.org file
[09:58] <liquidengineer> MitchM: Is that a full featured environment?
[09:58] <kane77> liquidengineer, I suggest xubuntu, although I ran normal ubuntu just fine on 1Ghz Duron with 256 Ram
[09:58] <western> jvai... there was no solution... i installed some new usb tools in the meantime...  for a short moment the disk was recognized now... after 10 seconds it stopped again
[09:58] <mharding> oh
[09:58] <burepe> eitan ok go to system>settings>shared folders.  and pick the folders to share
[09:58] <mharding> what do I need
[09:58] <MitchM> liquidengineer, It has everything you need; yes.
[09:58] <liquidengineer> i.e.: all the standard apps like openoffice, firefox, etc?
[09:58] <Tajmox> mharding xorg.conf is located in /etc/X11
[09:58] <JayRoe> adaptr, at the moment I activate beryl from the terminal by typing "beryl --screen 0 & beryl --screen 1". But as soon as I close the terminal, beryl shuts down.
[09:58] <adaptr> MitchM: if I run "echo Hello &", it's not going to "keep running" just because I put it in the background
[09:58] <mharding> what is the sudo command to edit
[09:58] <jvai> western: when it work'd the usb icon showed on the desktop?
[09:59] <MitchM> adaptr, He didnt specify that.
[09:59] <JayRoe> adaptr, any possible way around that would be good enough for me.
[09:59] <liquidengineer> It'll check it out
[09:59] <liquidengineer> Thanks.
[09:59] <adaptr> MitchM: true, but he does want that :)
[09:59] <Tajmox> mharding nano is the text editor and gedit is the gnome editor
[09:59] <MitchM> adaptr, well thats just silly
[09:59] <western> jvai ... there where to many windows opend, but the content of the disk was shown in a new window
[09:59] <frenchfry929> How do I add a free space partition to my ubuntu partition?
[09:59] <mharding> I have gnome
[09:59] <mztriz> neildarlow, it says 'Access Point 00:02:DD:34:81:7D'
[09:59] <neildarlow> Tajmox: gedit is for editing gnomes not text? ;)
[09:59] <Tajmox> mharding gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:59] <pike_> frenchfry929: gparted to resize paritions but backup importants stuff first
[10:00] <frenchfry929> thanks pike
[10:00] <kitche> mharding: it doesn' matter what you use but if liek a graphical interface use gedit
[10:00] <adaptr> JayRoe: the & command puts the first process in the background, so that one will keep running - the second won't
[10:00] <neildarlow> mztriz: ok, you have a connection, can you ping something?
[10:00] <Tajmox> neildarlow no it only edits gnomes and sometimes dwarfs
[10:00] <adaptr> JayRoe: you may mean && to run both programs
[10:00] <MitchM> liquidengineer, anytime :)
[10:00] <jvai> western: ok.. it was mounted, .. & u "unmounted" it correctly, right?
[10:00] <Reliant> Quick question. When I do a recovery boot, and go into maintenence after a ctrl+alt+del, how can I remount my drive as writable? It's mounted as read-only by default
[10:00] <mztriz> neildarlow, I don't think it works but I'll try again.
[10:00] <mborg> What's a good substitute for FCKeditor?
[10:00] <MitchM> Reliant, try mount +rw
[10:00] <JayRoe> adaptr, that's probably it. I though it meant "and"
[10:01] <Reliant> MitchM: Do I pass any other parameters?
[10:01] <western> jvai... no! after 10 seconds it was closed again and there was the warning that i should unmount... but i did not do anything that time... strange
[10:01] <MitchM> adaptr, I'm going to resist saying "boo-ya"
[10:01] <adaptr> JayRoe: traditionally, nohup is used to start a process and detach it form the controlling TTY
[10:01] <JayRoe> adaptr, should it then be "beryl --screen 0 & beryl --screen 1&"
[10:01] <liquidengineer> Do I want 6.10 or 6.06?
[10:01] <adaptr> MitchM: because ?
[10:01] <mharding> can someone take a look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/479/
[10:01] <jvai> try plugging it again @ western
[10:01] <MitchM> Reliant, Sure.
[10:01] <adaptr> JayRoe: yes, or nohup both
[10:01] <western> jvai but i got the message in the terminal: Bus 004 Device 085: ID 1058:0701 Western Digital Technologies, Inc.
[10:01] <adaptr> JayRoe: test it out already :)
[10:02] <jvai> snaap...
[10:02] <liquidengineer> I'm trying to fix this up for a somewhat technologically inexperienced friend of mine, so I want the most reliable version possible
[10:02] <mztriz> neildarlow, no, ping just says 'Ping unknown host..'
[10:02] <mharding> do I have to add anything for beryl to work right
[10:02] <neildarlow> mztriz: have you tried pinging your gateway by IP address?
[10:02] <Tom_Green> okay... that's it for today. goodnight to all ye fellow europeans and thanks for answering my questions!
[10:02] <pike_> liquidengineer: daper (6.06) is what i normally recommend. its the long term support version
[10:02] <pike_> dapper
[10:03] <jvai> western, i wonder if those make of drives r compatible... i dont kno what to tell u.
[10:03] <jvai> i'm on dapper
[10:03] <liquidengineer> what's the difference?
[10:03] <adaptr> mharding: from a console just use regular sudo
[10:03] <eitan> ok... I created a shared folder on the ubuntu computer...
[10:03] <JayRoe> adaptr, I'll try restarting x, I think it had too much beryl
[10:03] <mztriz> neildarlow, how would I do that?
[10:03] <burepe> Can someone who is good at networking tell eitan how to set up networking through the gnome gui? my system is japanese so the words are all different and I am having trouble remembering how to do it.
[10:04] <eitan> What do I do now?
[10:04] <burepe> eitan I am gonna keep working on it. it was easy though
[10:04] <neildarlow> mztriz: if your network is 192.168.0. then it's probably 192.168.0.1
[10:04] <liquidengineer> What does Long Term Support mean?
[10:04] <jvai> western: edgy is um.... edgy
[10:04] <adaptr> mztriz: ping the IP that's listed as default in the output of "route -n"
[10:04] <pike_> liquidengineer: well dapper is older but ubuntu has a 6 month release cycle so not exactly old. and it is kept up to date.
[10:04] <liquidengineer> Sounds like a paid service. :D
[10:04] <adaptr> liquidengineer: at least 3 years :)
[10:04] <liquidengineer> Ah
[10:04] <western> jvai, ok i try google again, maybe i find something about [17180311.412000]  ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: port 3 reset error -110
[10:04] <western> [17180311.412000]  hub 4-0:1.0: hub_port_status failed (err = -32)
[10:04] <adaptr> liquidengineer: exactly the opposite, actually - you'll get more support than MS offers, and for free
[10:04] <sam_uk> is there a command i can use to test xgl installation?
[10:04] <liquidengineer> I'm guessing it's fairly simple to upgrade later if I want to
[10:05] <liquidengineer> apt-get or somesuch
[10:05] <mztriz> neildarlow, my internal IP address?
[10:05] <jvai> western: sorry i'm of little help, i'm stumped
[10:05] <liquidengineer> (I'm a MacOS X guy....my main experience with this sort of thing is darwin ports.)
[10:05] <neildarlow> mztriz: yes of your access point
[10:05] <pike_> liquidengineer: yes apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:05] <adaptr> or, rather: update-manager -c
[10:05] <burepe> eitan: Ok I figured it out. but i did mine with samba. Can we use that? you can still work with linux but you can also add windows comps. that is the only difference
[10:05] <pluma> Help! I've bought a new LCD screen and wired it up with my Linux box. I want to use the old LCD screen for dual output and connected it to the DVI out of my Linux box's nvidia card. What now? Merely adding a second screen (device, monitor, entry in ServerLayout) in xorg.conf apparently isn't enough
[10:06] <jvai> ok ppl.. i gotta bounce.. ty all
[10:06] <liquidengineer> I guess what I'm wondering (before i try to download a disk image) is this: is there a page with a concise discription of what's different between Dapper Drake (love that name) and the newer one?
[10:06] <adaptr> pluma: you'll have to enable xinerama in your x config
[10:06] <mztriz> so just ping and then my internal IP?
[10:06] <adaptr> pluma: or twinview in your nvidia card
[10:06] <pluma> adaptr: how do I enable twinview?
[10:06] <adaptr> !twinview | pluma
[10:06] <neildarlow> mztriz: not the IP of your desktop/laptop but your access point
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <burepe> liquidengineer: how did you like darwin ports. I could never get it to work.
[10:06] <pluma> adaptr: Also, how do I enable xinerama properly?
[10:06] <adaptr> pfft suckabot
[10:06] <mztriz> neildarlow, OHHH okay.
[10:06] <pluma> Also, ubotu doesn't know about that
[10:06] <eitan> oh boy... I only set up nfs in ubuntu.. I have to go and change it I guess... wait
[10:07] <techfun> in the ubuntuforums there is a good step-by-step for twinview
[10:07] <adaptr> pluma: load it as an extension in xorg.conf
[10:07] <burepe> eitan it is pretty easy
[10:07] <adaptr> pluma: or something, I've never used it :(
[10:07] <techfun> i used it
[10:07] <liquidengineer> burepe: I love it
[10:07] <burepe> eitan don't change anythig
[10:07] <liquidengineer> I would love it more if my computer weren't so slow
[10:07] <burepe> eitan just follow me
[10:07] <pluma> adaptr: import a module?
[10:07] <techfun> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174&highlight=twinview
[10:07] <adaptr> pluma: urnghk ?
[10:08] <burepe> liquidengineer: so you can use tons of linux apps on your mac now? gnome and stuff/
[10:08] <burepe> ?
[10:08] <adaptr> burepe: Gnome is not a "linux app"
[10:08] <adaptr> there are no such beasts
[10:08] <techfun> oops   I meant this for Twinview:  http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html
[10:08] <burepe> I meant other than aps. gui too
[10:08] <shreeve_> lotsa kernel packages out there... what's the proper way to upgrade to the "most recent" supported kernel in ubuntu? Is this correct: apt-get install linux-generic"????
[10:09] <jamesbrose> How do I grep for a word in a whole directory?
[10:09] <liquidengineer> burepe: Yeah
[10:09] <adaptr> shreeve_: yep
[10:09] <techfun> grep -r
[10:09] <neildarlow> shreeve_: yes
[10:09] <techfun> grep word *
[10:09] <adaptr> jamesbrose: use grep foo ./*
[10:09] <webmaren> does anybody know of a way to make the volume on headphones higher in bmp
[10:09] <pike_> jamesbrose: grep word * will work if youre in the dir or add a grep -R for subdirs
[10:09] <burepe> eitan go back to the folder you set up
[10:09] <burepe> and choose smb
[10:09] <ikonia> I'e just formated my ubuntu 6.06 laptop install and replaced it with edgy. The scroll option on my touch pad isn't working does anyone understand the confix for edgy/X to get it working
[10:09] <techfun> or grep -i if you want it case insenstive
[10:10] <mztriz> neildarlow, okay, I pinged the AP but it said 'unknown host' and so then I pinged the  internal IP and it worked on that desktop but if I try it from this desktop it says 8 packets transmitted, 0 received, +6 errors, 100% packet loss, time 7027ms
[10:10] <mztriz> , pipe 3
[10:10] <pluma> techfun: thanks
[10:10] <shreeve_> does "apt-get install linux-generic" bring in all the modules? do i have to manually install the 'restricted' modules?
[10:10] <jamesbrose> adaptr, root@intranet:/var# grep james ./*
[10:10] <western> jvai... i found somethind that it might be a problem of timeout of the EHCI Host Controller... something about changing the timeout to 600s from 500... is this a risk?
[10:10] <jamesbrose> adaptr, it comes up with nothing :S
[10:10] <adaptr> jamesbrose: yers
[10:10] <neildarlow> mztriz: does the output of route -n look sensible?
[10:10] <adaptr> jamesbrose: then it's prolly not there
[10:10] <techfun> james, are you trying to search down inside sub directoruies?
[10:11] <jamesbrose> yes
[10:11] <jamesbrose> techfun, yes
[10:11] <eitan> Now I can't figure out how to install samba. What a pain...
[10:11] <burepe> is there away to group one program windows together in the taskbar like Windows?
[10:11] <techfun> then use   grep -r word *
[10:11] <adaptr> jamesbrose: then use grep -R foo ./*
[10:11] <burepe> eitan: wait
[10:11] <adaptr> techfun: lowercase not gonna cut it here ;-)
[10:11] <ikonia> eitan: apt-get
[10:11] <burepe> eitan lets start over. just follow me.
[10:11] <eitan> ok
[10:12] <techfun> adaptr, both will work
[10:12] <burepe> eitan go to system>settings>shared folders
[10:12] <techfun>  -R, -r, --recursive       equivalent to --directories=recurse
[10:12] <burepe> eitan pick the folder you shared before
[10:12] <techfun> grep --help | grep recursive  :)
[10:12] <adaptr> burepe: right-click the small vertical thingy on the left of your windows, choose preferences
[10:12] <burepe> adaptr thanks
[10:13] <HS^> can someone please help with nvidia? i get a black screen
[10:13] <Blacken> I have an Inspiron E1505 laptop. Has anyone here figured out microphone support for these (running Edgy atm)? I searched the forums, but it seems there's no support for it.
[10:13] <burepe> eitan now choose smb
[10:13] <douglas> Is there a large set of games for ubuntu?
[10:13] <adaptr> techfun: true! it didna use to, though...
[10:13] <Blacken> Or weren't then.
[10:13] <douglas> other than gnome games
[10:13] <douglas> and the tux games
[10:13] <Blacken> douglas: http://www.linuxgames.com
[10:13] <techfun> yea  i know, its a recent change
[10:13] <mztriz> neildarlow, yeah it looks okay
[10:13] <HymnToLife> douglas, what kind of games ?
[10:13] <douglas> all sorts
[10:13] <burepe> eitan can you say ok when you finish each step so I know you are with me?
[10:13] <eitan> There IS NO SMB!
[10:13] <douglas> FPS.. adventure
[10:13] <neildarlow> mztriz: i would check the setup of your wireless NIC in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:13] <adaptr> techfun: just when I had the capital R burned into my brain, too...
[10:13] <HymnToLife> !info openarena
[10:13] <ubotu> Package openarena does not exist in any distro I know
[10:13] <burepe> eitan ok
[10:13] <HymnToLife> too bad
[10:13] <eitan> .... When I first enabled the shared folders... it said ...
[10:13] <kitche> douglas: you might like tremulous
[10:13] <techfun> both wrk so you dont need to change
[10:14] <adaptr> HymnToLife: do you mean alien arena ?
[10:14] <eitan> do you want nfs, samba, or both...
[10:14] <nikin> douglas for FPS see Quake 3 and EnemyTerritory
[10:14] <huiezer> i needasdf
[10:14] <danny500> I need help with gksu users-admin
[10:14] <douglas> I dont have a graphics card.. so mainly adventure i guess
[10:14] <eitan> I said NFS since all the people here said I shouldn't be using samba...
[10:14] <techfun> the -R capital is required for chmod tho
[10:14] <douglas> or the default dlel one
[10:14] <techfun> still
[10:14] <eitan> now I can't install samba anymore...
[10:14] <HymnToLife> adaptr, nope, I mean the GPL'ed Quake III Arena
[10:14] <adaptr> you need 4 consecutive letters on the keyboard ?
[10:14] <eitan> it only gives nfs as a choice.
[10:14] <danny500> I need help with gksu users-admin
[10:14] <HymnToLife> it's in the DEbian repos, I wonder why it's not in Ubuntu
[10:14] <pike_> douglas: first person shooters: tremulous (awesome online fps), enemy territory, and paid stuff like quake4 or savage2, or agian free like wesnoth a turnbased strategy
[10:14] <douglas> any more free kinda adventure games like supertux?
[10:15] <eitan> The computer I'm talking about is in the other room, so every time you ask me to do something... I have to go running there... so you have to give me time.
[10:15] <techfun> eitan:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#Samba_Server
[10:15] <danny500> I need help with gksu users-admin
[10:15] <adaptr> pike_: douglas, don;'t forget nexuiz!
[10:15] <burepe> eitan what do you mean "do I want nfs, samba or both"? why can you not install samba? did you tyr synaptic?
[10:15] <techfun> eitan, can't you SSH into it?
[10:15] <adaptr> eitan: why not connect with ssh then ?
[10:15] <michi_s> hello, I stopped a "job" (emacs) in the terminal , how can I start it again ? thx
[10:15] <danny500> I need help with gksu users-admin
[10:15] <techfun> jinx adaptr
[10:15] <burepe> eitan ok. It the other comp connected to the net?
[10:15] <burepe> internet?
[10:15] <techfun> michi  -   fg
[10:15] <danny500> I need help with gksu users-admin
[10:15] <eitan> burepe: I mean that when I first tried to create a shared folder it said that I did not have either nfs or samba installed and which one did I want to install.
[10:15] <eitan> I said nfs.
[10:16] <danny500> I need help with gksu users-admin
[10:16] <burepe> eitan ok
[10:16] <michi_s> techfun: thank you very very much
[10:16] <eitan> Now it says... when I want to create a shared folder... that my only option is NFS.
[10:16] <eitan> It doesn't let me "add" a new protocol.
[10:16] <techfun> burepe  get rid of nfs and follow the step-by-step stuff here:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#Samba_Server
[10:16] <techfun> anytime michi
[10:16] <eitan> It's stuck in nfs.... and it doesn't give me that installation choice anymore.
[10:16] <techfun> apt-get remove ?
[10:16] <eitan> Now that it thinks it has nfs, it doesn't think it should give me the choice of samba anymore.
[10:17] <techfun> not sure what package names nfs uses
[10:17] <pike_> dougsko: if you get wesnoth dont apt-get it download beta from the project homepage. lots of fixes
[10:17] <mztriz> neildarlow, I think it's normal but here's what it says: auto lo iface lo inet loop back, eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp, and hen it's the same fore eth1, eth2, ath0, and wlan0
[10:17] <adaptr> eitan: that's.. probably not what really happens
[10:17] <mztriz> *and then it's the same for
[10:17] <burepe> eitan yeah do what techfun said. search nfs in synaptic, uninstall it. Then read that faq and get back to me. If they faq is hard I will help you.
[10:17] <adaptr> pike_: did they fix the "sound dies when you leave it running for a few hours" bug ?
[10:17] <eitan> ugh!
[10:17] <danny500> I NEED HELP WITH gksu users-admin FOR THE ^TH TIME!
[10:17] <pike_> adaptr: dunno about that one. but i found the whole thing much more polished
[10:17] <neildarlow> mztriz: does "ifconfig wlan0" look sensible?
[10:18] <adaptr> pike_: still too bloody small graphics, though ?
[10:18] <danny500> am I talking to a brick wall?
[10:18] <pike_> adaptr: yeah same look prettymuch
[10:18] <burepe> liquidengineer: would you mind helping me with darwin ports sometime?
[10:18] <techfun> off-topic:  anyone else having intermittent issues using any google sites today?
[10:18] <adaptr> danny500: yes, you are - or, as it is more commonly called, a glass tube
[10:18] <danny500> this is a help room but I'm not getting any
[10:19] <adaptr> (well, mine is)
[10:19] <neildarlow> danny500: can't you use System|Administration|Users and Groups?
[10:19] <danny500> no
[10:19] <kitche> danny500: sorry can't help if you don't say what's wrong
[10:19] <michi_s> techfun google works fine
[10:19] <pike_> danny500: what are you trying to achieve?
[10:19] <adaptr> danny500: this is indeed a support channel; it is not an I PAID TO GET HELP NOW GIMME SOME channel, though
[10:19] <techfun> danny,  be more specific
[10:19] <danny500> I used it a minute ago, changed some stuff and It cut me off from use of certaint Administration app's
[10:19] <techfun> an  you are no longer in the sudoers list
[10:19] <adaptr> danny500: you probably disabled your password, or changed it
[10:20] <kitche> danny500then you probably removed your user from the admin group
[10:20] <adaptr> or tat
[10:20] <GZT> hello everybody
[10:20] <jarrod10> 1000 people in room
[10:20] <jarrod10> :)
[10:20] <danny500> yeah I'm no long in the sudoers list
[10:20] <neildarlow> danny500: or, more likely, in the "admin" group
[10:20] <techfun> danny, any change you set the root password?
[10:20] <techfun> chance
[10:20] <adaptr> danny500: then you'll have to boot up ubuntu in safe mode
[10:20] <mztriz> neildarlow, when I type in ifconfig wlan0 it says wlan0: error fetching interface information: Device not found.
[10:20] <techfun> or have webmin installed?
[10:20] <adaptr> mztriz: it's iWconfig, actually
[10:21] <neildarlow> mztriz: what device is your wireless NIC associated with normally?
[10:21] <techfun> again:   Anyone have lyceum running on dapper?
[10:21] <kitche> adaptr: iwconfig is just a wireless wrapper to ifconfig you still need to use ifconfig to bring the device up
[10:21] <danny500> yeah I changed the root password
[10:21] <Senesence> How can I make it so that the terminal window always launches a certain size, and at a certain location on the desktop?
[10:21] <burepe> hey how can I set firefox as my default webbrowser?
[10:22] <neildarlow> adaptr: no, i was wanting to know if hos adapter is up and running. ifconfig is correct
[10:22] <mztriz> neildarlow, I have no idea... T____T; but should I do iWconfig wlan0?
[10:22] <bright_fame> does anyone know if the middle button copy/paste function is supposed to work in gedit (ubuntu edgy), it doesn't in mine
[10:22] <techfun> then just su then run users-admin
[10:22] <danny500> ok hold on I'm going to boot up into safemode
[10:22] <techfun> and put yourself back to the checkbox for allow admin tasks
[10:22] <danny500> oh ok hold on
[10:22] <neildarlow> mztriz: you can. it should show something other than "no wireless extensions"
[10:23] <burepe> bright_fame: how does that work? I can try it?
[10:23] <neildarlow> mztriz: it's iwconfig btw
[10:23] <bright_fame> highlight text, then middle click somewhere is in the edit window, it should paste the highlighted text
[10:23] <bright_fame> (somewhere ELSE in the...)
[10:24] <PinkyLinux> hi
[10:24] <burepe> bright_fame: supid mac person question but is middle click both left and right buttons at the sme time?
[10:24] <PinkyLinux> can someone help me with the install of my webcam logitech?
[10:24] <Senesence> How can I set current terminal window state as default state whenever terminal is started?
[10:24] <Seta-San> no
[10:24] <burepe> !webcam
[10:24] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:24] <Seta-San> middle click is the scroll usually
[10:24] <techfun> e$ uptime
[10:24] <techfun>  16:24:27 up 112 days, 21:27,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.00
[10:24] <mztriz> neildarlow, well that would explain the command not found error, I'll go run upstairs and try it again.
[10:24] <bright_fame> burepe: for a 2 button mouse yep :D
[10:24] <techfun> I love ubuntu
[10:24] <neildarlow> bright_fame: have you tried - highlight, copy to clipboard, then middle click
[10:24] <burepe> one sec
[10:25] <Hexan> we all love ubuntu :D
[10:25] <kitche> mztriz: you sure your device is wlan0 it might be eth1 or another eth
[10:25] <xnor> i just installed ubuntu 6.10 amd64 i have a nvidia 6800gt graphicscard, how do i set the resolution higher than 1024x768 ?
[10:25] <Seta-San> i haven't tried it yet
[10:25] <eitan> I tried installing samba... and it didn't change my possible share options in the shared folder settings... then I uninstalled samba AND nfs, and once again, it didn't change my options in the shared folder settings... it still says that nfs is my only option. How pathetic!
[10:25] <burepe> bright_fame: didnt work for me
[10:25] <adaptr> xnor: you'll have to edit xorg.conf
[10:26] <bright_fame> burepe: thanks anyways
[10:26] <GZT> < xnor > xorg.conf
[10:26] <eitan> It's like once I chose nfs only, I'm doomed to nfs only... it never asks me again if maybe I want samba.
[10:26] <adaptr> techfun: why not/ they're easy, compared to some others
[10:26] <techfun> eitan, did you try to work through the guide i sent you?
[10:26] <neildarlow> eitan: you can't just install samba. you need to edit smb.conf and start the daemon too
[10:26] <burepe> bright_fame: I would like to use it if I could.
[10:26] <mztriz> kitche, it's a wireless card so I suppose it's wlan0? but it might be eth0?
[10:26] <mztriz> neildarlow, it says no such device
[10:26] <bright_fame> neildarlow: in gedit: highlight, copy, middle click does nothing
[10:26] <techfun> adaptr, same reason when I managed a support department i didnt allow reg based fixes....  too easy for the person you ar ehelping to hose themselves
[10:26] <bright_fame> neildarlow: but highlight in terminal, middle click inside gedit works fine
[10:26] <techfun> then I feel bad
[10:27] <burepe> bright_fame: do you know mouse gestures in firefox? I wonder if there is a gnome system wide thing like that?
[10:27] <PinkyLinux> my cam driver is supused to be installed allready, but i cant make the command "modprove -v spca5xx" becouse it says  "bash: comand not found" :S:S
[10:27] <tabman> those of you who use Windows might have noticed that the parition where windows is installed size keeps on getting bigger & bigger with time, does this happens in the linux world as well ?
[10:27] <eitan> You don't understand... it's not about installing samba or not installing samba... it's that the shared folder settings doesn't let me choose samba!
[10:27] <adaptr> techfun: well, as long as they make a backup of the config.... that's possible with the windoze registry too
[10:27] <neildarlow> bright_fame: is X configured for a 3 button mouse. it's not doing button 3 emulation, is it?
[10:27] <jmhodges> okay, silly question: somehow my BitTorrent files are now being associated with GVim. How do I associate them (both in GNOME and Firefox) with gnome-btdownload?
[10:27] <xnor> adaptr: i removed 1024x768 and replaced it with 1280x1024, and i increased the refreshrates. Then it went to 800x600, any more idea?
[10:27] <eitan> ugh....
[10:27] <techfun> tabman: what the hell are you talking about?
[10:27] <eitan> I feel like I've screwed my computer...
[10:27] <techfun> tabman: windows doesnt change partition sizes
[10:27] <kitche> mztriz: some devices are called eth1 I know in Ubuntu they tend ot be ethx instead of wlan0
[10:27] <kestaz> how to make shell look like "%" ?
[10:27] <adaptr> xnor: what did you do besides that ? did you restart X in between ?
[10:28] <eitan> How do I get the shared folder settings to go back to the way they were...? How do i get the shared folder settings to ask me whether I want samba or nfs or both?
[10:28] <kitche> kestaz: that is the zsh shell you mena somehting like user@host% right?
[10:28] <adaptr> kestaz: log in as root
[10:28] <bright_fame> neildarlow: hmm, seems to work fine as a three button wheel mouse (including scrolling) everywhere else, but will check
[10:28] <xnor> adaptr: i rebooted
[10:28] <PinkyLinux> did i need to install an extra package to have the modprove  command working?
[10:28] <adaptr> xnor: please don;t ever do that again!
[10:28] <neildarlow> mztriz: just do "iwconfig" and see which interface has wireless information
[10:28] <nikin> xnor: run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' but be carefull
[10:28] <techfun> eitan: well?
[10:28] <bright_fame> burepe: i don;t know mouse gestures sorry, this kind of thing i would keep activating accidentally :P
[10:28] <burepe> eitan: I am sorry if you feel bad. That happens to me every day. Your computer is ok. we just gotta figureit out
[10:28] <eitan> techfun: well the thing you sent me does not help.
[10:28] <adaptr> xnor: if you need to restart the X server (to re-read xorg.conf) just hit CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE
[10:29] <bright_fame> Pinky: it's modprobe
[10:29] <adaptr> nikin: that won't hardly get him higher resolutions than he already has
[10:29] <burepe> bright_fame: I love it. makes everything so easy
[10:29] <g333k_work> how can I get a pkg from ubuntu to install in another pc that doesnt has internet connection?
[10:29] <tabman> techfun: lets say when you install windows its folder size would be around 2 GB but with time it reaches around 5 GB as is the case with me right now, I'm on windows
[10:29] <LoRez> what would be causing a difference in alt-key combination handling between dapper and edgy in xterm and gnome-terminal?
[10:29] <techfun> eitan: weird, its exactly what dozens of people i support used
[10:29] <burepe> bright_fame: kinda like having a wii computer
[10:29] <techfun> ahhh
[10:29] <mztriz> neildarlow, okay
[10:29] <eitan> I want the shared folder settings to give me the choice between samba and nfs... instead it only gives me nfs... it doesn't check to see what's installed... it just dumb lists nfs because I originally said nfs... it doesn't give me a chocie to install samba either.
[10:29] <whileimhere> Is there a way to watch my DVDs on my computer with linux?
[10:29] <adaptr> tabman: that's because WIndows caches a lot of stuff in \system32
[10:29] <techfun> tabman: ok  i thought you meant partitions
[10:29] <adaptr> tabman: but OT, very much so
[10:30] <aN1> tabman, wut u talking about?
[10:30] <techfun> tabman: windows grows that way becuase of SPs and hotfixes etc....
[10:30] <neildarlow> bright_fame: middle click for paste doesn't work for me either
[10:30] <PinkyLinux> bright_fame, : http://www.europanet.com.br/euro2003/?cat_id=872  mmm this tuturial was not well made then:P lolo
[10:30] <techfun> tabman: and no, linux doesnt do that to that degree
[10:30] <PinkyLinux> thanks
[10:30] <eitan> that's because I'm not looking how to share PER-SE right now... I am looking to get the shared folder settings to work under gnome...
[10:30] <kitche> !dvd|whileimhere
[10:30] <ubotu> whileimhere: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:30] <Brillant> are there any girl??
[10:30] <Brillant> woman
[10:30] <adaptr> whahahahaha
[10:30] <jcruzlara> ok google isn't helping on this one make: *** No targets.  Stop.
[10:30] <adaptr> sure, I'm a grl
[10:30] <PinkyLinux> me
[10:30] <PinkyLinux> :P
[10:30] <PinkyLinux> why
[10:31] <seanj> for some reason that question makes me mad
[10:31] <burepe> me too. girl here
[10:31] <eitan> I don't want to do a terminal window adventure... i just want to get the ubuntu gnome shared folder settings to give me the choice of samba... that's all.
[10:31] <cafuego_> Brillant: Why?
[10:31] <Peebo> eitan: What's your issue
[10:31] <techfun> eitan:  not gonna happen
[10:31] <Brillant> can i talk with u private??
[10:31] <eitan> read my last statement
[10:31] <Seta-San> i think he thinks linux is something that 35 year old guys who can't get laid use
[10:31] <adaptr> s/he's looking to get hisself kicked
[10:31] <eitan> why not?
[10:31] <pike_> g333k_work: there are specific ways but if you are trying to move from another ubuntu machine it might be archived in /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:31] <techfun> eitan: ubuntuguides are always the EASY way of doing something
[10:31] <mztriz> neildarlow, eth0 is the one that has the AP
[10:31] <tabman> techfun: thats why linux is the best :)
[10:31] <eitan> easy? A bunch of terminal commands...? I don't think so.
[10:31] <cafuego_> Brillant: This is a support channel, not a nightclub.
[10:31] <seanj> I had to setup Samba manually, and needed a root password for SWAT
[10:31] <techfun> tabman: yup yup
[10:31] <Brillant> i can find u...haha
[10:32] <techfun> eitan: copy and paste
[10:32] <techfun> how much easier cna it be?
[10:32] <jcruzlara> anyone?
[10:32] <Brillant> write sth to me
[10:32] <adaptr> Brillant: and I can *kill* you... with the power of my mind... the power of Tux, the wonderpoodle
[10:33] <aN1> nick penguine0nmeth
[10:34] <burepe> Peebo he is setting up a network with nfs. But he seemed to be going about it a harder way. I told him I have done it and it is easy but I only have done it with smb. But apparently he can't choose smb in the shared folder settings because when he was setting it up he chose nfs in the beginnng. so he wants to reset it so he can work with smb
[10:34] <tabman> techfun: there are a couple of things which stop me from fully migrating to linux, voice chat through google talk, testing website for IE, DAP the download accelerator, my own Encarta World English Dictionary
[10:34] <diskus> burepe: smb and nfs are different things as far as I know
[10:35] <pike_> eitan: you could do rm -fr ~/.g* then hit alt-ctrl-backspace that will remove all your config files and when you log backin it will create new default ones
[10:35] <burepe> techfun: the comp eitan is setting up is in another room that is why he doesn't want to write down commands and run back and fourth
[10:35] <techfun> tabman: ie4linux, wine, and slype
[10:35] <mztriz> neildarlow, eth0 is the one that has the AP
[10:35] <neildarlow> mztriz: do you really have all those adapters listed in /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:35] <mztriz> neildarlow,  yeah.
[10:35] <Brillant> what do u  interesting talk??
[10:35] <techfun> burepe:  thats why we suggested ssh -  one command :)
[10:35] <PinkyLinux> when i try to make "cat /dev/video" it says: cat /dev/video "no more free space in the device"  (-> portuguise translated:P)  what could it be?
[10:35] <aN1> techfun is slype kinda like skype?
[10:35] <techfun> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[10:35] <techfun> yes  eaxactly like skype for people who type poorly
[10:35] <seanj> Yes I think it was meant to be Skype
[10:36] <tabman> techfun: wine would run most of my windows software ?
[10:36] <mztriz> neildarlow, I've never had a problem with my internet, it was only after I did these tweaks http://tvease.net/wiki/index.php?title=Tweak_ubuntu_for_speed
[10:36] <burepe> diskus: yeah that is the problem.  I don't think eitan follows cause he didn't say anything about it.
[10:36] <mztriz> but i undid them all
[10:36] <techfun> tabman: most yes
[10:36] <tabman> techfun: I can't do skype when the other person is on google talk
[10:36] <neildarlow> mztriz: does "route -n" show the default route being associated with eth0?
[10:36] <Brillant> shit
[10:36] <techfun> tab, true so make them use skype too :)
[10:36] <burepe> gizmo and google talk are both open federation
[10:36] <Brillant> looser
[10:37] <seanj> can we get rid of Brillant's idiocy now?
[10:37] <svish> how can I find out if I have ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 or 9700?
[10:37] <mnoir> neildarlow: TIAS
[10:37] <techfun> and tabman,  check out http://appdb.winehq.org/ for wine compatibily issues
[10:37] <burepe> brillant that is no way to talk to a lady
[10:37] <seanj> lol
[10:37] <Brillant> it was joke
[10:37] <Brillant> sorry
[10:37] <eitan> look... I set up samba and nfs on the ubuntu computer.... it is NOT giving me the choice of samba in the shared folder settings window!
[10:37] <eitan> ... it still says NFS only... that's what I've been trying to tell you?
[10:38] <eitan> .
[10:38] <pike_> svish: lspci -v | grep -4 ATI or just lspci -v
[10:38] <linpp_> hello, i get this error when trying to run synergy, 'synergys: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory', i have gcc, libc6 and libgcc1 packages, latest version,  what should i do?
[10:38] <PinkyLinux> anyone up to gimme a littl help? tutorials and how to's didnt helped much....
[10:38] <burepe> eitan: we understand.
[10:38] <eitan> Finally!
[10:38] <mztriz> neildarlow, it says use iFace 0 vmnet1, 0 vmnet8, 0 eth0, and 0 eth0 again.
[10:38] <Brillant> nfs??
[10:38] <seanj> nfs = Networked File System
[10:38] <techfun> PinkyLinux: help with?
[10:38] <pike_> svish: not sure about the ATI never had one so i dont know how it will show up
[10:38] <Brillant> acha
[10:38] <mnoir> PinkyLinux: not if you don't ask a real question
[10:38] <Brillant> thanks
[10:38] <burepe> eitan we understood from the beginning. we are trying to help don't get angry with us
[10:38] <seanj> np lol
[10:38] <eitan> What is stupid is that it only gives you a choice once and never again... so if you screw up with the answer you are screwed forever.
[10:38] <Brillant> i'm new in chat
[10:38] <eitan> I'm not angry... I'm frustrated.
[10:38] <neildarlow> mztriz: it's probably those net.ipv4 sysctls that are screwing things
[10:39] <Brillant> i don't know some things
[10:39] <pike_> eitan: you could do rm -fr ~/.g* then hit alt-ctrl-backspace that will remove all your config files
[10:39] <PinkyLinux> Techfun:  cat /dev/video "no more free space in the device"
[10:39] <mztriz> neildarlow, i deleted them
[10:39] <burepe> eitan is that computer connected to the internet?
[10:39] <seanj> Brillant: this is a support channel for Ubuntu... for questions about Ubuntu GNU/Linux computer operating system... not "general" chat
[10:39] <eitan> ok... sounds good... let me do that
[10:39] <eitan> yes
[10:39] <adaptr> Brillant: the best thing you can do, then, is to just read along for a bit, see if you can follow along at some point
[10:39] <svish> pike_: hm.. it says ATI Tecnologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000]  (rev 01)... ??
[10:39] <bright_fame> PinkyLinux: which webcam do you have?
[10:39] <danny500> ok I fixed it.
[10:39] <Hexan> Brillant 'acha' ?? :o
[10:39] <PinkyLinux> Logitech
[10:39] <danny500> alls good
[10:39] <Hexan> :D
[10:39] <techfun> danny500:  coolio
[10:39] <danny500> I still have one prob though
[10:39] <burepe> eitan can you user irc on that computer? or are you on it now?
[10:39] <Brillant> acha....
[10:40] <Brillant> what acha??
[10:40] <techfun> you are 500 and need a cane?
[10:40] <linpp_> hello, i get this error when trying to run synergy, 'synergys: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory', i have gcc, libc6 and libgcc1 packages, latest version, i don't think it's a synergy problem, any ideas?
[10:40] <Senesence> How can I set the default window size for Xterm?
[10:40] <Hexan> why don't you go to #ubuntu-pl, Brillant? ;)
[10:40] <bright_fame> Pinky: chat? fusion?
[10:40] <danny500> I'm doing training to become a Web CEO right now and I need to watch a training video but my sound card won't work right now.
[10:40] <PinkyLinux> Loguuitech Quickcam messenger i think
[10:40] <techfun> flash video?
[10:40] <neildarlow> mztriz: i would undo all those tweaks and see if you can get your system right again then apply them incrementally to see which breaks things
[10:40] <Brillant> what for??
[10:40] <adaptr> video training to "become" a CEO ? wehehe
[10:41] <danny500> I've done everything, I reinstalled all the ALSA crap and rebooted but still nothing
[10:41] <douglas> My wireless keeps going from like 70/100 to like 13/100..
[10:41] <douglas> Is there any glitches in the wifi software that'd do i
[10:41] <douglas> it
[10:41] <Hexan> Brillant: that is a better place to use 'acha' ;)
[10:41] <douglas> whhen i boot into winblows don't have the problem
[10:41] <adaptr> no offense, but to become a CEO you'll need great ideas, a lot of luck, and huge balls.. training video's aren't in there
[10:41] <bright_fame> Pinky: i set up my logitech using the spca driver a while back, not sure i can remember what i did though :( it's a 'quickcam go'
[10:42] <mztriz> neildarlow, I undid all of them but the first one, which I'm not exactly sure how to  undo
[10:42] <danny500> It's a huge course I'm taking and it has some video's in it
[10:42] <Senesence> Any support people around?
[10:42] <Brillant> ok how can u know the acha is pl...world
[10:42] <Brillant> ??
[10:42] <neildarlow> Senesence: 1002 of them :)
[10:42] <burepe> ha
[10:42] <Senesence> How can I set the default window size for Xterm?
[10:42] <Brillant> it's doesn't matter
[10:42] <Hexan> Brillant: how couldn't i? ;) check my whois ;)
[10:42] <PinkyLinux> bright_fame, : ill try to install them now then
[10:42] <adaptr> Senesence: just xterm ? or one of the better ones ?
[10:43] <danny500> go to http://www.webceo.com/ to see what I'm training to be.
[10:43] <Senesence> adaptr: Just the regular GNOME terminal
[10:43] <adaptr> Senesence: that's called "gnome-terminal" or some such
[10:43] <danny500> but besides that how can I get my sound card working?
[10:43] <adaptr> Senesence: by default size do you mean actual window size, or size in characters ?
[10:43] <danny500> it's an ES1371
[10:43] <Senesence> adaptr: Actual window size
[10:44] <alessandro> anyone using edgy with xen?
[10:44] <alessandro> and having an eth0?
[10:44] <alessandro> eth1
[10:44] <adaptr> Senesence: default character size is settable, as is font size - those two combined make up the window size :)
[10:44] <MegaTrousers> Can anyone help me with gnome-screensaver? Hardware acceleration seems to work fine in everything. fgl_gears works fine and fglrxinfo reports the correct ATI driver is working. The gnome-screensavers are very slow and choppy and I don't know why. There is no reason for this since I am using an ATI x1600 card with fast cpu and lots of RAM. I get the feeling that it is using software based rendering, like Mesa, for the screensavers. Run
[10:44] <Kemical> can anyone help me with a problem im having with my gfx card in ubuntu?
[10:44] <danny500> it was working but then one day ubuntu decided to stop using it
[10:44] <jvai> is xen in the dapper repos?
[10:44] <danny500> Kemical what type of gfx card you have?
[10:44] <burepe> How can I check my mysql version?
[10:45] <Senesence> adaptr: What do I need to do in order to have the default terminal size 80x80?
[10:45] <nikin> there is no way to mount 2 partitions to the same dir? so that if i copy something in that dir it goes on both drives?
[10:45] <adaptr> Senesence: have you looked at al the options ?
[10:45] <Kemical> ATI Radeon 9600... I've installed the drivers and it seems to be working fine except glxgears gives out about 300fps
[10:45] <Brillant> elo
[10:45] <Brillant> elo
[10:45] <danny500> why do you need 300fps?
[10:45] <Senesence> adaptr: For what command, it's nothing I can find in the regular settings
[10:45] <aN1> danny500,  glx should give out like 1000fps alteast
[10:45] <danny500> thats fast enough for anything
[10:46] <aoupi> nikin: no, once you mount the second partition the first one hides untill the second is unmounted
[10:46] <neildarlow> nikin: no
[10:46] <Kemical> in the ubuntuforums people say that when they run glxgears they get about 6000fps with my gfx card, whilst i only get 300
[10:46] <danny500> yeah and what are you going to do with 100fps you can't even see that
[10:46] <Peebo> burepe: should be something simple like mysql -v or -V
[10:46] <danny500> 1000fps*
[10:46] <burepe> peebo thanks
[10:46] <MegaTrousers> How can you tell the fps with glxgears?
[10:46] <adaptr> Senesence: you're right - it can't, one other reason why I don't use it; I prefer Konsole or aterm/eterm
[10:46] <honix> hi!! please help me, im installed a new dvdwriter but it doesnt read blank dvds
[10:46] <_zil> hi all
[10:46] <danny500> movies run at 30FPS
[10:46] <neildarlow> MegaTrousers: glxgears -printfps
[10:46] <Hexan> MegaTrousers: improper drivers are to blame. i've got nvidia, so i won't advice you anything, but all this is rather simple
[10:46] <nikin> i want a RAID like system but distributed to some servers over the internet with sshfs
[10:47] <black_13> does the ubuntu install cd contain the ndis loader?
[10:47] <nikin> so i have to find some other way to do it
[10:47] <danny500> and high end games run at 300FPS
[10:47] <danny500> I mean 60FPS
[10:47] <Peebo> danny500: movies run at 25 pfs
[10:47] <Senesence> adaptr: Is there any way to maybe mod the .config file for xterm? I can't seem to find the config file, any idea where it could be?
[10:47] <_zil> damn kickass action in here :)
[10:47] <MegaTrousers> Can anyone help me with gnome-screensaver? Hardware acceleration seems to work fine in everything. fgl_gears works fine and fglrxinfo reports the correct ATI driver is working. The gnome-screensavers are very slow and choppy and I don't know why. There is no reason for this since I am using an ATI x1600 card with fast cpu and lots of RAM. I get the feeling that it is using software based rendering, like Mesa, for the screensavers. Run
[10:47] <Kemical> glxgears is sort of a benchmark that shows the fastest fps ur gfx can run
[10:47] <danny500> no they run at 30 if your talking about dvd quality
[10:47] <neildarlow> Senesence: /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm and XTerm-color
[10:47] <danny500> oh ok
[10:47] <timmae> 37459 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7491.750 FPS
[10:47] <aN1> i agree with kemical it test if u set up everything correctly
[10:47] <PinkyLinux> bright_fame, : i isntalled the spca5xx20060501  but i still have the same error while i try to do "cat /dev/video"
[10:48] <adaptr> Senesence: just add the options you want to the shortcut for the gnome terminal
[10:48] <harrisony> _zil: yeah!
[10:48] <aleksanteri> 1002 users here? well i should get help fast then :D
[10:48] <danny500> does your graphics card work good?
[10:48] <Kemical> ye and i get 300fps although all the drivers are setup and i have 3d rendering on
[10:48] <danny500> if it does then don't worry about it
[10:48] <aleksanteri> what's the command to copy a file?
[10:48] <MegaTrousers> cp
[10:48] <adaptr> Kemical: what videocard ?
[10:48] <Peebo> danny500: movies run at 25 pfs, it has nothing to do with DVD or not it's to do with the TV display system e.g. NTSC or PAL or SECAM
[10:48] <PinkyLinux> i install too the Easycam2, its said drivers installled..... but i dont get nothing from the Camorama...:S
[10:48] <Kemical> Ati Radeon 9600
[10:48] <_zil> aleksanteri, man cp
[10:48] <aoupi> nikin: do you want the same stuff on all servers?
[10:48] <HS^_> hello i still dont get nvidia working.. iuse vesa now. on internet i found someone with same problem, they say the new nvidia driver fixes it : 1.0-9626 , how do i install that on Ubuntu?
[10:48] <diskus> aleksanteri: cp = copy, mv = move, rm = remove
[10:48] <aleksanteri> ty _zil
[10:48] <_zil> :P
[10:48] <diskus> aleksanteri: mkdir = new directory
[10:49] <nikin> aoupi: yes
[10:49] <aleksanteri> i know :P
[10:49] <diskus> aleksanteri: and rmdir = remove directory
[10:49] <aleksanteri> i know that too :P
[10:49] <danny500> well all my point is if your graphics look good then what does it matter how many fps's your getting?
[10:49] <_zil> aleksanteri,  format c: /q does not working linux btw
[10:49] <aleksanteri> i wanted to copy a file :D
[10:49] <adaptr> Kemical: that's ancient.. no wonder
[10:49] <_zil> :)
[10:49] <aoupi> nikin: how about rsync or something
[10:49] <bright_fame> Pinky: is the module loaded? try: lsmod | grep spca
[10:49] <diskus> aleksanteri: cp -a = copies directory with files, rm -rf = removes everything recursively
[10:49] <aN1> HS^, go to www.beryl-project.org
[10:49] <aleksanteri> ok
[10:49] <Kemical> :( lol works gd for counterstrike source in windows but not in linux
[10:49] <aN1> they have an even newer driver
[10:49] <danny500> the PS3 runs at 60FPS
[10:49] <neildarlow> danny500: that's not the attitude for a prospective CEO. more is always better :)
[10:50] <Hexan> MegaTrousers: type fglrxinfo in terminal and let us know what do you see there
[10:50] <diskus> aleksanteri: and be careful with rm -rf :P
[10:50] <Peebo> danny500: Exactly anything over 30fps is waisted as the human eye persistence of vision is just around 30 pfs
[10:50] <Hexan> ;)
[10:50] <nikin> aoupi. never tryed it ... its just a new idea... but i need a realtime systems
[10:50] <eitan2> ok... I am now on Irc on the ubuntu computer...
[10:50] <nikin> -s
[10:50] <aleksanteri> hehe sure diskus
[10:50] <burepe> cool
[10:50] <seanj> I can tell when something is running below 60 fps, Halo for example
[10:50] <aN1> Peebo i think glxgears is like a benchmark
[10:50] <aN1> Itz meant to test if everything is set up correctly
[10:50] <eitan2> same problem... share folder settings still don't list samba and don't let me add samba.
[10:50] <aoupi> nikin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync sounds like that is what you need
[10:50] <JayRoe> I'm back adaptr
[10:51] <aN1> for me i get 1200ish
[10:51] <bright_fame> Pinky: does a kernel message appear when you insert the cam into the usb port (type: dmesg)
[10:51] <Kemical> So anyone hav any ideas how I can get the fps in glxgears to be higher?
[10:51] <nikin> ty
[10:51] <burepe> eitan if you haven't said anything in a while type my name burepe and then my comp will blink and let me know you are there
[10:51] <Peebo> aN1: benchmarking is different of course
[10:51] <eitan2> I did that  command to get rid of the config files, and nothing happened. it didn't change anything.
[10:51] <diskus> Kemical: buy new video card?
[10:51] <adaptr> Kemical: why does this matter ?
[10:51] <eitan2> burepe
[10:51] <Senesence> neildarlow: Thanks, but I can't seem to find anything relating to window size in XTerm
[10:51] <HS^_> is someone reading me
[10:51] <kane77> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. Why is this?? (it happens when I try to run sudo gedit)
[10:51] <HS^_> www.beryl-project.org what do i find ther <anl>
[10:51] <Kemical> Well I've already got a new gfx card but its pci-e and my mobo is agp so me need to get a whole new pc
[10:52] <aN1> HS^,  hold on i give u direct link
[10:52] <HS^_> ok] 
[10:52] <eitan2> burepe hello?
[10:52] <PinkyLinux> bright_fame,  [17190464.304000]  /usr/share/EasyCam2/drivers/spca/drivers/usb/spca5xx.c: USB SPCA5XX camera found.Logitech QuickCam chat (SPCA561A)
[10:52] <eyalw> Hi, I have a sirious problem, when I play video, on any player (totem, vlc, video player...) the app gets "dirty" with a mix of gray scale pixels - usually on the gui areas, not on the video. I have a nVidia6600GT   plz help me?
[10:52] <burepe> eitan ok  did you do this  rm -fr ~/.g* then hit alt-ctrl-backspace that will remove all your config files
[10:52] <melkins> is anyone else having rendering issues with the firefox 2.0.0.1 update?
[10:52] <eitan2> burepe YES. it didn't do anything
[10:52] <kane77> eyalw, do you have drivers installed??
[10:52] <PinkyLinux> it Detects the webcam....
[10:52] <burepe> ok
[10:52] <Peebo> KEmical: That's like buying USB periferals when you run NT4 on your PC
[10:52] <eyalw> kane77: yes.
[10:53] <_zil> yo nt4 rox
[10:53] <neildarlow> Senesence: the size is normally set by the terminal emulation e.g. vt100 is 80x24 iirc
[10:53] <aN1> HS^_,  http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA
[10:53] <Kemical> I kno, the reason I got it was because Im going to upgrade it soon
[10:53] <eyalw> kane77: i run beryl, so i installed them before
[10:53] <adaptr> Peebo: worse, even - at least you can attach the USB devices, even though NT doesn't use them
[10:53] <HS^_> anl ok i look
[10:53] <adaptr> Peebo: I wouldn't want to watch him force the pcie card in an agp slot
[10:53] <nikin> aoupi it seems nice... i go and get some more info about it.... ty
[10:53] <Kemical> k well thnx anyway guys
[10:53] <sethly> where do I look for win32 codecs if mplayerhq.hu doesn't have what I need?
[10:54] <Peebo> adaptr: True and then you could always install a real OS
[10:54] <Hexan> sethly :o
[10:54] <aoupi> nikin: you're welcome
[10:54] <kane77> eyalw, hmm... that's strange.. I have nvidia card and works good for me... however I dont use  beryl yet...
[10:54] <neildarlow> sethly: that's their home
[10:54] <bright_fame> PinkyLinux: there's a small programm called spcagui from mxhaard.free.fr which you could also use to test the cam with
[10:54] <eitan2> burepe: please understand that I'm setting this computer up for a friend and I can't have him depend on cryptic terminal commmands to set up a two computer file sharing... it has to work with the share folders window... something easy... why can't I add samba to the shared folders settings window?
[10:54] <Hexan> mplayerhq DOES have what u need :/
[10:54] <PinkyLinux> bright_fame, - ill look for it
[10:54] <mztriz> neildarlow, I just made sure everything was undone, but I really don't know how to get rid of the first one
[10:54] <bright_fame> PinkyLinux: i found everything i needed on that site, sorry i can't be of more help to you
[10:54] <Senesence> neildarlow: Now how can I make it so that the window starts out at 80x50 for example?
[10:54] <burepe> eitan2 so you need smb
[10:54] <burepe> ok
[10:55] <mztriz> neildarlow, because of the sudo tune2fs -o journal_data_writeback /dev/yourdrive part
[10:55] <burepe> eitan so we gotta get rid of that nfs somehow or other.
[10:55] <sethly> is it possible to view DivX movies with totem?
[10:55] <eitan2> I have smb installed.... it's not showing up in the shared folder settings window.
[10:55] <PinkyLinux> bright_fame,  at least you help.... i apprecciate that a lot:)
[10:55] <kane77> Why is this?? (it happens when I try to run sudo gedit): Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[10:55] <ltibor65> Hi everybody! I want to connect two computers with UTP cross over cable. Both machines have Ubuntu 6.06. How can I configure the this network?
[10:55] <sethly> xine
[10:55] <eyalw> Hi, I have a sirious problem, when I play video, on any player (totem, vlc, video player...) the app gets "dirty" with a mix of gray scale pixels - usually on the gui areas, not on the video. I have a nVidia6600GT   plz help me?
[10:55] <Hexan> sethly of course, but you need win32 codecs.
[10:56] <Hexan> :D
[10:56] <burepe> one sec
[10:56] <damnjack> hi
[10:56] <HS^_> anl how do i cleanly uninstall the nvidia i have
[10:56] <neildarlow> Senesence: vanilla xterm understands "-geometry". google is your friend
[10:56] <Hexan> it's a shame you don't know how to download them :o
[10:56] <Hexan> xD
[10:56] <eitan2> burepe: When i ask it to create share folder ... under "share with" it only says nfs... it doesn't give me the choice of smb.
[10:56] <damnjack> little and simple question here i guess !!! how to make an bootdisk
[10:56] <homebrewer> i just restarted ubuntu, and the gui is all flat-shaded. it kinda looks like win98!! how do i make the gui pretty again?
[10:57] <eitan2> god why is gnome/ubuntu so difficult?
[10:57] <ikonia> eitan2 its not
[10:57] <neildarlow> eitan2: it isn't
[10:57] <yezzz> hello helpful ubuntu gods.
[10:57] <yezzz> i have a problem with Klibido (usenet NZB grabber) - it says 'there was an error writing to disk[..] chances the filesystem is out of space'
[10:57] <yezzz> it is not out of space.. could this be a permissions problem? can anyone help? i'm running Edgy.
[10:57] <Hexan> eitan2: difficult? :D
[10:57] <HS^_> ps the fonts look best in ubuntu
[10:57] <Hexan> :D:D
[10:57] <eitan2> ok... so why don't you tell me how to get samba as a choice in the "share with" option of shared folders?
[10:58] <eitan2> extremely difficult
[10:58] <burepe> eitan2 I got that. I am thiking about a way around it
[10:58] <pogoj> Hello all
[10:58] <Senesence> neildarlow: I know, I already found the "gnome-terminal --geometry=80x40", but I want to make that the default, and not have to run that command every time. I can't find anything on google about that.
[10:58] <aN1> HS^_,  u can uninstall via synaptic
[10:58] <eitan2> you see? not easy
[10:58] <aN1> HS^_,  if u do u will loose gui
[10:58] <eitan2> ubuntu = difficult
[10:58] <ikonia> eitan2: no its not
[10:58] <HS^_> aN1: no i have mesa..
[10:58] <burepe> Hey anyone know if nfs and smb can both be used on the same computer?
[10:58] <ikonia> burepe: yes it can
[10:58] <Hexan> yoooo sethly where are you? xD
[10:58] <pogoj> Senesence: Add that command to your .xinitrc file
[10:58] <aN1> HS^_,  then u don't need to do anything
[10:58] <neildarlow> Senesence: you can edit the menu entry and add the geometry
[10:59] <aN1> HS^_, just follow the guide on the link
[10:59] <eitan2> Ubuntu - a word from an African language meaning extremely hard to figure out. Also, can mean "difficult riddle"
[10:59] <ikonia> I've got samba in my shared folders
[10:59] <Senesence> pogoj: Where is that file?
[10:59] <sethly> is usr/lib/win32 the correct location for codecs with xine?
[10:59] <kane77> Why is this?? (it happens when I try to run sudo gedit and also when I log in as a root and try to run gedit): Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[10:59] <HS^_> aN1:  yes i also installed nvidia, but i copied the backup config of x11 to
[10:59] <jvai> lol eitan2
[10:59] <burepe> eitan2 it is easy. we are working backwards.
[10:59] <Hexan> sethly: NOOOOO!!!!!
[10:59] <mnoir> burepe: yes - they are different subsystems and share like nothing except (possibly) the dirs being shared
[10:59] <Hexan> :D
[10:59] <pogoj> Ubuntu is hardly hard to figure out haha
[10:59] <ikonia> burepe: has he got samba server installed
[11:00] <HS^_> pogoj:  well it s a mess to install on my system till now.  but well, its probably best distro so..
[11:00] <aN1> HS^_,  just search for nvidia-glx in synaptic and remove it
[11:00] <Hexan> sethly: it's /usr/local/lib/codecs
[11:00] <eitan2> Ubuntu - A word from an African language meaning "can only be done backwards"
[11:00] <Hexan> !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:00] <pogoj> Senesence: If it's not already created you must create it in your home directory
[11:00] <aN1> HS^_,  select complete removal
[11:00] <sethly> ty
[11:00] <burepe> mnor ikonia he got samba installed but it is not showing up as an option when he shares a folder smb is not there only nfs
[11:00] <ikonia> eitan2: stop making random comments
[11:00] <yezzz> can anyone help? :(
[11:00] <yezzz> the directory klibido is trying to write to is /home/[my name] /klibido/tmp - can i give klibido more permissions or something? :s
[11:00] <ikonia> burepe: did he install samba or samba-server
[11:00] <aN1> HS^_,  if in terminal i think u use aptitute remove
[11:00] <pengo> how can i caonnect 2 ubuntu computer
[11:00] <eitan2> ikonia: then start helping
[11:00] <pengo> ??
[11:00] <burepe> don't know
[11:00] <pogoj> HS^_: Best is a subject of opinion :)
[11:00] <ikonia> eitan2: did you install samba or samba server
[11:00] <mnoir> burepe: well that sounds like a samba problem :)
[11:00] <eitan2> ikonia: you tell me how to do this, and I'll stop complaining.
[11:01] <eitan2> YES
[11:01] <eitan2> ikonia: yes.
[11:01] <roflarn> how can u answer yes on that :O
[11:01] <ikonia> eitan2: show me "ps -ef | grep smb"
[11:01] <HS^_> aN1:  ok i removed..
[11:01] <Senesence> pogoj: would it work if I did that to "/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc" ?
[11:02] <z-ip> !bootsplash
[11:02] <HS^_> pogoj:  yea, but im critical person. i like ubuntu
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <burepe> eitan2 I am warning you that you risk alienating the people who are trying to help you.
[11:02] <damnjack> I have to uninstall grub ...  i'm looking around.. !!!
[11:02] <HS^_> even when i dont even have nvidia installed
[11:02] <eitan2> ikonia: you haven't been following. When I first asked it to create a shared folder, it said that I didn't have a protocol installed, so did I want samba, nfs or both. People on this channel told me not to choose samnba, so I chose nfs. Now burepe tells me that I need samba, only now the shared folders window doesn't let me choose or install samba, even though I installed samba separately with apt-get.
[11:02] <z-ip> !change bootsplash
[11:02] <frogzoo> !botabuse | z-ip
[11:02] <kane77> eitan2, or as my friend says (he's a gentooist): ubuntu - an old african word meanin: he who cannot configure debian... :D
[11:02] <ubotu> z-ip: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:02] <pogoj> Senesence: I'm sure it would, but I definitely recommend adding that kind of configuration to your home .xinitrc file.
[11:03] <pogoj> HS^_: Ubuntu is a nice distro.
[11:03] <eitan2> burepe: what do you want me to do? I'm sitting here waiting for a solution... and all I get is criticism.
[11:03] <ikonia> eitan2: thats not what I asked
[11:03] <ikonia> ahhh sforget it
[11:03] <z-ip> frogzoo, i need an url that someone give me by a bot here to change the image that shows the bootsplash
[11:03] <ikonia> help yourself
[11:03] <yezzz> !klibido
[11:03] <ubotu> klibido: usenet binary grabber for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.5-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 411 kB, installed size 1336 kB
[11:03] <ikonia> your attitude doesn't help
[11:04] <eitan2> kane77: no... how about an african word meaning: a person who has a friend with an old computer that cannot read debian dvd's so he had to download ubuntu and burn a cd instead even though he is perfectly comnfortable with debian.
[11:04] <yezzz> if you've finished arguing, can someone help me? ;)
[11:04] <ikonia> eitan2: stop making things up for the word ubuntu
[11:04] <ikonia> if you don't like it - stop using it
[11:04] <ikonia> yezzz: whats the problem
[11:04] <aN1> HS^_,  yeah so now follow the guide enable addditonal repo and get pgp key
[11:04] <pogoj> eitan2: Why don't you just do a debian netinstall?
[11:04] <eitan2> ikonia: why are you so hostile?
[11:04] <aN1> HS^_,  follow it through u should be fine it worked great on my comp
[11:04] <yezzz> (09:57:33 PM) yezzz: hello helpful ubuntu gods.
[11:04] <yezzz> (09:57:33 PM) yezzz: i have a problem with Klibido (usenet NZB grabber) - it says 'there was an error writing to disk[..] chances the filesystem is out of space'
[11:04] <yezzz> (09:57:33 PM) yezzz: it is not out of space.. could this be a permissions problem? can anyone help? i'm running Edgy.
[11:04] <burepe> eitan2 you are critizing everyone who is trying to help. If you want a solution you have to be more paitent.
[11:04] <ikonia> eitan2: I'm not
[11:04] <aN1> HS^_,  but u don't have to install the beryl thing
[11:05] <z-ip> sorry for ask again the same question, i need help to change my bootsplash. In google i found info about the breezy distro and is useless.
[11:05] <ikonia> yezzz: someone had a similar problem
[11:05] <kennyt> anyone know where to find ISOs that fit on standard 65min CDs?
[11:05] <damnjack> Hey how we uninstall GRUB... and make a boot disk
[11:05] <ikonia> it was to do with running out of inodes
[11:05] <HS^_> an1  First method  ?
[11:05] <jvai> ubuntu is an easy debian, w/ updated packages
[11:05] <eitan2> because I'm not the one who's going to be using this computer! It's my friend who needs something that will be more user friendly... though it's proving to be not so friendly for me to set up file sharing.
[11:05] <yezzz> (10:00:36 PM) yezzz: the directory klibido is trying to write to is /home/[my name] /klibido/tmp - can i give klibido more permissions or something? :s
[11:05] <jfields> ubuntu / kubuntu kicks ass... i used to not think so  because i didnt like the default setup of using sudo... but once i changed it to the way i like things.... it is much much better than debian proper
[11:05] <ikonia> which makes the it apear the file system is out of space
[11:05] <aN1> HS^_,  yeah the stable
[11:05] <aoupi> kennyt: how many megs are the 65mins?
[11:05] <MystaMax> hello, how do i remove a directory and all its contents via the command line. I keep having to rm all the contents of the directory before deleting it????
[11:05] <kane77> eitan2, good one too :D
[11:05] <kennyt> aoupi: 650
[11:05] <eitan2> burepe: who did I criticist?
[11:05] <pike_> eitan2: i suggested deleting the .g config directories and restarting x server
[11:05] <eitan2> burepe: who did I criticise?
[11:05] <yezzz> ahhhh whats an inodes?
[11:05] <HS^_> aN1:  i already have linux-restricted-modules installed
[11:06] <kennyt> the main desktop ISOs seem around 690
[11:06] <ikonia> yezzz: inodes are "file location maps"
[11:06] <jvai> is xen in the dapper repos?
[11:06] <pogoj> jfields: Blasphemy!
[11:06] <eitan2> restarting? ok... I will restart now.
[11:06] <ikonia> yezzz: do "df -i"
[11:06] <damnjack> thanks
[11:06] <Keeguon> jvai: apt-cache search xen
[11:06] <ikonia> yezzz: can you see if you have any inodes left ?
[11:06] <jvai> oooo
[11:06] <aN1> HS^_,  when u use aptitute install it will check to see if u need to update
[11:06] <jfields> MystaMax, mv <dir name> <destination>
[11:06] <yezzz> hmm, what could i research to find out how to fix this, or  to determine if it is an inode problem?
[11:06] <ikonia> yezzz: pay attention to what I'm saying and we can check it out
[11:07] <aN1> HS^_,  so sub aptitude for apt-get
[11:07] <jfields> aptitude can bite me
[11:07] <burepe> go back and read all the stuff you have been saying to us because you are "frusterated". We are not your problem. we are trying to fix it. don't take that tone with us or we will stop helping. It is not easy to try to help someone when they are getting angry at you.
[11:07] <yezzz> ikonia - sure thing - the df -i returns..
[11:07] <yezzz> Filesystem            Inodes   IUsed   IFree IUse% Mounted on
[11:07] <yezzz> /dev/hda1            3597440  105549 3491891    3% /
[11:07] <yezzz> varrun                 64425      58   64367    1% /var/run
[11:07] <yezzz> varlock                64425       1   64424    1% /var/lock
[11:07] <yezzz> procbususb             64425     778   63647    2% /proc/bus/usb
[11:07] <yezzz> udev                   64425     778   63647    2% /dev
[11:07] <yezzz> devshm                 64425       1   64424    1% /dev/shm
[11:07] <pogoj> aptitude doesn't bite
[11:07] <yezzz> lrm                    64425      16   64409    1% /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile
[11:07] <yezzz> /dev/hdb1             281600  256007   25593   91% /mnt/ntfs-sys
[11:07] <HS^_> aN1:  i dont want the stable
[11:07] <yezzz> /dev/hdd1            20021248    3642 20017606    1% /mnt/120gb
[11:07] <mnoir> !flood
[11:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:07] <aoupi> kennyt: you could do a server install and then install ubuntu-desktop
[11:07] <jfields> beautiful spam
[11:07] <HS^_> aN1:  im new..
[11:07] <ikonia> yezzz: in future - use a pastebin
[11:07] <MystaMax> jfields, that'll delete a whole directory without it telling me there are files in the directory and cannot be deleted?
[11:07] <aN1> pogoj, big hugs
[11:07] <ikonia> yezzz: but that looks fine
[11:07] <pogoj> just uncheck unistall unused packages...
[11:07] <MystaMax> !flood
[11:07] <kennyt> aoupi: hmm
[11:08] <aN1> HS^_,  uhhhh so u want the beta driveR?
[11:08] <HS^_> aN1:  the stable nvidia gives me problems
[11:08] <ikonia> yezzz: where is your application trying to right
[11:08] <HS^_> aN1:  yea
[11:08] <ikonia> write
[11:08] <fooy> this is the most f'd up thing a computer has ever done to me. i spent 3 days organizing my files and copying them from my windows partition to my linux partition. i'm able to access my linux partition from windows using ext2/ext3 drivers. then when im finally FINNISHED, i reboot into linux and kde refuses to load for no reason (i shutdown proeperly last time) Then i go back in win2k and it now refuses to let me access my ext3 partition
[11:08] <fooy> so now i can't perform a backup
[11:08] <HS^_> aN1:  i get a black screen with stable nvidia
[11:08] <yezzz> sorry. i shall investigate pastebin. it is trying to write to /home/iestyn/klibido/tmp
[11:08] <pogoj> aN1: Do i know you, or do you just randomly hug strangers?
[11:08] <aN1> This is version 9631
[11:08] <jfields> MystaMax, ....... man mv
[11:08] <HS^_> aN1:  i need 9626
[11:08] <aN1> pogoj,  fine i take it back lol
[11:08] <HS^_> hmm
[11:08] <ikonia> yezzz: ls -la /home/iestyn/klibido/tmp
[11:09] <aoupi> fooy: do you get any errors?
[11:09] <fooy> nope
[11:09] <pogoj> aN1: I was just curious haha
[11:09] <aN1> HS^_,  the one u got from unbuntu is older
[11:09] <HS^_> aN1:  so which one is installed wia synaptic?
[11:09] <ikonia> fooy: your trying to access ext3 from windows ?
[11:09] <aN1> this is different
[11:09] <aoupi> fooy: do you get thrown back to a terminal?
[11:09] <mnoir> fooy: what where you using to access ext3 from win?
[11:09] <fooy> nope
[11:09] <HS^_> aN1:  can you explain please i dont understand
[11:09] <eitan2> ok... I restarted the x terminal... the deleting of the config files did not help.
[11:09] <fooy> it just crashes
[11:09] <aN1> HS^_,  the one from ubuntu is not the 9 serious
[11:09] <eitan2> Now what?
[11:09] <HS^_> aN1:  is it a differentpackage
[11:09] <pogoj> did someone say windows...
[11:09] <HS^_> more updated?
[11:09] <aN1> YES
[11:09] <Warbo> Hi, does anyone know where I can find an amd64 package of the older (better) Clearlooks engine for Edgy? (The matte one?)
[11:09] <HS^_> ok:>
[11:09] <fooy> mnoir some program called ext2fs or something
[11:09] <aN1> HS^_,  sorri to cap
[11:10] <aN1> HS^_,  yeah this is diff then the one u nomrally get via synaptic
[11:10] <ikonia> fooy: don't try to access ext3 from windows
[11:10] <ikonia> its not a great system
[11:10] <aN1> HS^_,  hence the additional repo and key
[11:10] <aoupi> fooy: if you have a live cd start from that and run fsck -cf /dev/$your_root_partition
[11:10] <MystaMax> jfields, not sure what reading the man pages will do. doesnt say much about completely removing files. thanks anyway
[11:10] <fooy> when i try to access my linux partition from explorer (which it shows up as a G: drive) instead of  letting me explore it like it was before, it not just pops up a message 'would you like to format the volume? yes/no'
[11:10] <aoupi> fooy: where your root partition is something like hda2
[11:10] <HS^_> aN1:  yes i dont know im new how to install it.. i read it now
[11:10] <yezzz> ikonia: ls -la /home/iestyn/klibido/tmp returns a number of files, which i would have expected it to return if it's working correctly :-/
[11:10] <pogoj> Haha
[11:10] <mnoir> fooy: accessing ext3 with an ext2 pgm?
[11:10] <fooy> it does both
[11:10] <fooy> and i was accessing it fine before
[11:10] <mnoir> mmkay
[11:10] <ikonia> yezzz: can you put a bit in the pastebin please
[11:10] <eitan2> hello?
[11:11] <fooy> ie an hour ago
[11:11] <blanky> what's up
[11:11] <aN1> HS^_,  pm me if u have more question we are like flooding the channel
[11:11] <blanky> guys
[11:11] <aN1> HS^_,  let me show u how to edit source then
[11:11] <yezzz> ikonia: i think this is right: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/487/
[11:12] <eitan2> I need to know how to add samba to the "share with" in the shared folders settings.
[11:12] <fooy> these are both week old installs of windows and ubuntu, i have no viruses or did anythin crazy to cause both kde to stop working and windows to stop lettin me access my ext3 partition, they just decided to both do this crap at the same time because i spent 3 long days organizing my stuff and was just about to backit up to dvd. computers hate me is the only explantion
[11:12] <ikonia> yezzz: looks good. Could you paste me the exact error message please
[11:12] <mnoir> fooy: were you sharing your root partition or a different one?
[11:12] <fooy> no
[11:12] <yezzz> ikonia: certainly . one moment
[11:12] <Warbo> Anyone know of Edgy packages for Clearlooks 1?
[11:12] <fooy> i did nothin out of the ordinary
[11:12] <ikonia> yezzz: htanks
[11:13] <ikonia> thanks even
[11:13] <ikonia> just want to get accurate information
[11:13] <aoupi> fooy: sounds like the partition is borken somehow
[11:13] <aoupi> fooy: try the fsck thing I wrote a few minutes back
[11:13] <fooy> it better not be i swear to god i'll throw my computer out the window if it wasted 3 days of my life
[11:13] <ikonia> accessing ext3 from within windows has been known to cause coruption
[11:13] <eitan2> hello?
[11:13] <mnoir> fooy: there is no ordinary for this except never share yer root
[11:13] <BULLE> ikonia: i second that!
[11:13] <ikonia> thats one of the reasons I said its not great to use as a regular tool
[11:13] <ikonia> emergencies only really
[11:13] <fooy> everyone said it was fine to do before
[11:13] <mnoir> not me
[11:13] <BULLE> indeed
[11:13] <nikin> fooy: just KDE refuses to start?... did you try to login in console?
[11:14] <BULLE> avoid it if possible
[11:14] <yezzz> ikonia: Write error - Klibido There was an error writing to disk - the download queue has been paused. Chances are that the filesystem is out of space. Correct the error and restart the queue
[11:14] <ikonia> yezzz: ok, so its not saying its out of space
[11:14] <fooy> i can logged into my console once, then i tried to go back to kde and the whole thing crashed, then i said screw it and went to windows, i dont know how to burn a cd from the console
[11:14] <ikonia> thats just a "possible" cause
[11:14] <mnoir> pivot data areas should always be data only - no os and not essential to booting
[11:14] <burepe> eitan2: we don't watch everything on the channel. also it is hard to pick out of all this text things if you do not say my name
[11:14] <yezzz> ikonia: yeah, there's lots of free space, i was wondering if it was permissions?
[11:14] <ubuntux> question, how can i make sure that postfix logs to a logfile?
[11:15] <ikonia> well your permissions are fine if the user iestyn is trying to write to that area
[11:15] <ikonia> area
[11:15] <HS^_> aN1:  yes i pmd you
[11:15] <eitan2> burepe: ok... so I deleted the configuration files and restarted... no luck.
[11:15] <yezzz> :-/
[11:15] <aN1> HS^_,  damn xchat doesn't take pm ??
[11:15] <ikonia> yezzz: is that the user the process is running as
[11:15] <aoupi> yezzz: try 'touch /path/to/where/the/app/save/newfile'
[11:15] <lerneaen_hydra> random question: is there any app or pre-existing way to make a secondary monitor blank (display black) by some easy shortkey?
[11:15] <aN1> HS^_,  we talk here then : )
[11:15] <HS^_> wait
[11:15] <HS^_> maybe i send to a wrong name
[11:15] <aoupi> yezzz: if it is a pormission problem you should get an error
[11:15] <aN1> its anone
[11:15] <aoupi> permission
[11:16] <ikonia> lerneaen_hydra: bind a hot key
[11:16] <yezzz> ikonia: i'm new to *nix - i'm just running this appl.ication ont he desktop while i'm logged in
[11:16] <damnjack> is there a way to make a bootdisk
[11:16] <cMc> hello all
[11:16] <cafuego_> damnjack: a floppy one?
[11:16] <lerneaen_hydra> ikonia: well, I need an app/script that will blank the second screen
[11:16] <ikonia> yezzz: whats your username
[11:16] <damnjack> floppy or cd cafuego_
[11:16] <ikonia> lerneaen_hydra: no - you just need to bind an xorg hotkey
[11:16] <fooy> im gonna try rebooting into ubuntu again, better freakin load
[11:16] <eitan2> burepe: are you there?
[11:16] <yezzz> ikonia: iestyn
[11:16] <lerneaen_hydra> oh, there are pre-existing xorg hotkeys?
[11:16] <ikonia> ok - so that is you
[11:16] <yezzz> yes
[11:17] <burepe> eitan2 yes
[11:17] <ikonia> try touching a file in your path
[11:17] <cafuego_> damnjack: For a floppy you'd need to compilea custom kernel, with hardcoded support for your specific hardware.
[11:17] <eitan2> burepe: so what should I do now?
[11:17] <cMc> i just started fooling with ubuntu (normally use suse) but i can't get a good dl... any tips?
[11:17] <Warbo> damnjack: I have made a boot CD before (which includes the kernel). It might be a little overkill for you though
[11:17] <yezzz> will do. there are 3 paths specified int eh setup, i will try all 3
[11:17] <HS^_> aN1:  still nothing?
[11:17] <ikonia> 3 paths ?
[11:17] <cafuego_> damnjack: Which isn't hard I guess. When done, just cat it to the floppy device.
[11:17] <lerneaen_hydra> ikonia: any idea of an easy way to find a list of the xorg hotkeys?
[11:17] <ikonia> there should only be 1 write path
[11:17] <aN1> HS^_,  yeah i pmed u too u don't seem to get it
[11:17] <ubuntux> can someone pasate his/her syslogd.conf somewhere?
[11:17] <ikonia> lerneaen_hydra: search the wiki of forum
[11:17] <eitan2> burepe: it looks like it would be easier to reformat the drive and start over
[11:17] <aN1> HS^_,  itz ok just talk here
[11:17] <aoupi> cMc: the download is corrupt or bad speed?
[11:17] <burepe> eitan2 hold on. I have to ask. we have to go slow. If I knew exactly what to do I would tell you
[11:17] <HS^_> :s strange
[11:17] <nikin>  fooy: i try to find you something
[11:17] <damnjack> hmmm damn okay thanx all
[11:17] <jvai> brb uall goin downstairs
[11:17] <lerneaen_hydra> ikonia: ok
[11:18] <kennyt> any tips on cleaning junk out of the desktop ISO to make it smaller?
[11:18] <burepe> eitan2 if that is what you want to do then do it
[11:18] <cMc> i've downloaded the latest version 3 times and burned it at 8x...
[11:18] <aN1> HS^_,  to enable to extra repository u need to edit the source.list for apt-get
[11:18] <yezzz> ikonia (and anyone else): /home/iestyn/klibido/db  /home/iestyn/klibido/tmp  /home/iestyn/klibido/decoded
[11:18] <cMc> each time i have atleast 5 checksum errors
[11:18] <ikonia> burpe I've got some good ideas on how to fix it, but I'm not happy with the attitude
[11:18] <HS^_> aN1:  i am looking here now: http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu/dists/edgy/stable-9631/
[11:18] <Warbo> kennyt: OpenOffice :)
[11:18] <burepe> eitan2 I am looking for a faq
[11:18] <eitan2> burepe: it's not what I want to do.
[11:18] <eitan2> burepe: what I want is to get this working
[11:18] <kennyt> Warbo: ohhh, OO.o is installed? great, thanks
[11:18] <aoupi> cMc: check the checksum before burning
[11:19] <ikonia> yezzz: is there a log for the application (I don't know that app)
[11:19] <cMc> best checksum prog out there?
[11:19] <ikonia> cmc md5 ?
[11:19] <aN1> in terminal type sudo nano -w /etc/apt-get/source.list
[11:19] <aoupi> cMc: md5sum ubuntu.iso
[11:19] <HS^_> ok
[11:19] <cMc> running a windows box right now
[11:19] <yezzz> klibido: no, there is no log
[11:19] <burepe> eitan2 i don't need your attitude.
[11:19] <HymnToLife> cMc, there's md5sum for windows, too
[11:20] <ikonia> burepe: thats why I stopped
[11:20] <aN1> HS^_,  in ur file u can see like edgy main multiverse and all that rite?
[11:20] <eitan2> burepe: huh?
[11:20] <ikonia> well - didn't start
[11:20] <burepe> ikona I have been there so I want to help but...
[11:20] <HS^_> aN1:  nothing is in it
[11:20] <aN1> opps sorri
[11:20] <ikonia> yezzz: you could have a problem like the db can't be updated, but I don't know enough about the application
[11:20] <burepe> eitan2 I am looking for a faq
[11:20] <ikonia> sorry
[11:20] <aN1> in terminal type sudo nano -w /etc/apt/source.list
[11:21] <aN1> in terminal type sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:21] <ikonia> yezzz: the error emssage isn't helpful, more so without a log
[11:21] <HS^_> ok
[11:21] <eitan2> burepe: I don't understand... I just want to get this working...  it seems like its easier to just declare someone a bad guy rather than to help.
[11:21] <aN1> HS^_,  its sources.list
[11:21] <yezzz> ikonia: and aoupi - the result of touch can be found here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/489/
[11:21] <aN1> HS^_,  i suck at typing
[11:21] <HS^_> ok i got iy
[11:21] <dm_> #exaile
[11:21] <HS^_> it
[11:21] <dev> when is ubunutu gonna have kernel 2.6.18 or higher
[11:21] <dev> tons of newer hardware dont work in < 18
[11:21] <ikonia> yezzz: try touching a file with int
[11:21] <ikonia> eg:
[11:21] <yezzz> ikonia: it's a terrible error message :/
[11:21] <ikonia> touch /home/iestyn/klibido/db/testfile1.file
[11:21] <pogoj> dev: I believe Feisty is to have 2.6.19?
[11:22] <cMc> where do you find the correct checksum?
[11:22] <dev> pogoj, cool, will 6.10 (whatever crazy name its called) have an update to 2.6.18 or 19?
[11:22] <ikonia> pogoj: it does currently
[11:22] <ikonia> dev no
[11:22] <HS^_> aN1 i add this to the file?  deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[11:22] <aoupi> yezzz: try starting the application from a terminal, you might get more errors printed there
[11:22] <g1gaman> gentlemen, what kind of process is "/etc/init.d/pavdsk start pavdskra"? i can't find it with google and it's in my edgys preferences->sessions->
[11:22] <ikonia> some back fixes may go in
[11:22] <nikin> fooy: try to install cdw , its a console based cd writeing app with Menus and all... you will find it out
[11:22] <ikonia> aoupi: good call
[11:22] <pogoj> dev: I'm sure it will.
[11:22] <burepe> eitan2 we can talk about us or we can fix the problem. everytime I try to ask someone a question or find a faq or say wait you start running off at the mouth. I am not an expert. And I am being more patient then others would for you.
[11:22] <dev> i just installed 6.10 not even a week ago, and on ubuntu's page it was the latest
[11:22] <dev> is 'fiesty' not out yet?
[11:22] <aN1> HS^_,  yeah ignore deb-src just the first line
[11:23] <pogoj> dev: If you mean by system upgrade...
[11:23] <nikin> !cdw
[11:23] <aoupi> dev: 6.10(edgy) is still latest
[11:23] <ubotu> cdw: Tool for burning CD's - console version. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.3-6 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 180 kB
[11:23] <ikonia> dev fiesty won't be out for a while
[11:23] <aN1> HS^_,  u can also add #this is driver from beryl Pound sign is to comment anything out
[11:23] <dev> ahh ok
[11:23] <yezzz> aoupi: YES! better erros! i'll pastebin...
[11:23] <cMc> where can i find the correct checksum?
[11:23] <ikonia> yezzz: well done. aoupi good call
[11:23] <dev> my dvdrw doesnt work with sub 2.6.18 kernels ;/
[11:23] <eitan2> burepe: ... I was just chatting... apparently, I have to just shut up while everyone else can just say what they want to... fine. I'll just sit here.
[11:23] <dev> i guess i'll do it the old fashioned way to get it working from src
[11:23] <ikonia> dev I find that hard to believe
[11:24] <dev> ikonia, believe it
[11:24] <dev> <-- gigabyte 965p ds3
[11:24] <yezzz> ikonia: aoupi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/490/
[11:24] <dev> rev2
[11:24] <burepe> I am not helping you anymore
[11:24] <g1gaman> gentlemen, what kind of process is "/etc/init.d/pavdsk start pavdskra"? i can't find it with google and it's in my edgys preferences->sessions->
[11:24] <pogoj> Hell my dvdrw works with 2.6.8 :)
[11:24] <aoupi> cMc: http://ftp.port80.se/ubuntu-cd/6.06/MD5SUMS
[11:24] <dev> its my motherboards bus not the dvdrw itself
[11:24] <ikonia> yezzz: what device is it using ?
[11:24] <HS^_> aN1 i changed it. now what?
[11:24] <g1gaman> excuse for repeating, but i'm a bit confused
[11:24] <dev> 17450019.100000]  hdb: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01)
[11:24] <dev> [17451313.812000]  hdb: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01)
[11:24] <dev> [17451684.964000]  hdb: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01)
[11:24] <HS^_> synaptic
[11:24] <dev> :)
[11:24] <dev> have done my googling and see its a sub 2.6.18 issue with this mobo
[11:24] <xip> hi
[11:25] <aN1> HS^_,  press ctrl-O to write out
[11:25] <lochen> I'm having trouble getting edgy to boot on an older iMac G3, i've downloaded and tried 3 different times and i still get nothing
[11:25] <yezzz> ikonia: i have no idea wtf that is :/ - it's just meant to connect to a newsgroup server (specified) and download stuff
[11:25] <cMc> i dled 6.10
[11:25] <aN1> HS^_,  then ^ X to exit
[11:25] <HS^_> aN1:  yes its saved.. i used gedit
[11:25] <cMc> is that a bad idea?
[11:25] <aN1> oh ok
[11:25] <ikonia> dev ahhh so its the motherboard, not the drive
[11:25] <aN1> now get the pgp key
[11:25] <xip> How do I update synaptic package manager
[11:25] <aN1> wget thing
[11:25] <linux_kid> lochen: does dapper ppc boot?
[11:25] <xip> so it has the latest versions
[11:25] <HS^_> ?
[11:25] <dev> ikonia, yup yup
[11:25] <eitan2> Can someone here help me get samba as an option in the shared folders settings?
[11:25] <ikonia> xip: same as every other package
[11:25] <aN1> HS^_,  u will have to do dat in termianl
[11:26] <HS^_> wget http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
 <-- gigabyte 965p ds3
[11:26] <HS^_> that
[11:26] <aoupi> cMc: oh sorry one sec
[11:26] <dev> its a relatively new mobo that ive seen on the forums posts about
[11:26] <aN1> HS^_,  yep
[11:26] <dev> from xtknight and stuff
[11:26] <HS^_> done
[11:26] <xip> ikonia, I mean how do I get the package manager to get the list of all the latest versions
[11:26] <aoupi> cMc: http://ftp.port80.se/ubuntu-cd/6.10/MD5SUMS
[11:26] <ikonia> xip: apt-get update
[11:26] <xip> k
[11:26] <ikonia> or click the update option on the gome admin menu
[11:26] <ubuntux> someone who has experience with postfix here?
[11:27] <eitan2> Can anyone here help me get samba as an option in the shared folders settings?
[11:27] <ikonia> ubuntux: a little
[11:27] <ikonia> eitan2: please stop asking every 30 seconds
[11:27] <ikonia> (note I asked nicley)
[11:27] <z-ip> hi again, i need libbogl-dev and apt-file tell me that is in /usr/share/doc/libbogl-dev/TODO.Debian, i need to add debian respositorys to could install this packages ?
[11:27] <HS^_> aN1:  now i do the install command? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx
[11:27] <ubuntux> ikonia, if someone sends me a mail he gets 554 relaying denied
[11:27] <xip> ikonia, Its still listing versions wrong
[11:27] <eitan2> ikonia: How long should I wait before someone responds?
[11:27] <notme> !samba
[11:27] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:27] <z-ip> because i have multiverse , universe in my repositories and have not this packages
[11:27] <sbevill> Hi, I'm having an annoying problem with my usb mouse and keyboard on a new edgy install, anyone available to help out?
[11:27] <ikonia> eitan2: how long is a bit of string
[11:27] <dev> xtknight put up a kernel package on the forums to help fix it, but when i used his kernel i lost my othe sata drives :)  so something is configuered different in his kernel.  I can do it myself its just if an os uses rpm, or dpkg, or src, i try to stick with that so crap doesnt get boned down the road
[11:27] <aN1> HS^_,  yeah but u can replace apt-get with aptitude
[11:27] <linux_kid> eitan2: go to system->administartion->shared folders then click "add" and it should prompt you if you want to use samba or unix file sharing.  if you choose samba, it will install itself
[11:27] <cMc> there wer some capitilzations diffrences will that mess up the file?
[11:28] <dev> damn there's alot of chat traffic in here lol
[11:28] <ikonia> ubuntux: relaying is where unauthorised mail is sent to a domain
[11:28] <aoupi> cMc: caps or no caps dosen't matter
[11:28] <aN1> HS^_,  but copying that whole in in terminal should be fine too
[11:28] <ikonia> so either your server is not listening on that domain
[11:28] <ikonia> or he's trying to use your smtp MTA to send it
[11:28] <HS^_> aN1:  but i already have linux-restricted-modules installed. delete it first?
[11:28] <cMc> aoupi: so the file is fine?
[11:28] <ikonia> most probably your mail server is not listening for that domain
[11:28] <ubuntux> ikonia, i know what relaying is, but i dont know what i have to change in postfix
[11:29] <aoupi> cMc: yea, if the sums match(not considering caps)
[11:29] <aN1> HS^_,  no it will check if u have it and won't install it
[11:29] <nikin> dev: everyone should just use a client what can show 80+ lines :D
[11:29] <aN1> HS^_,  or u can just not type dat part
[11:29] <ikonia> ubuntux: I can't remember the parameter but look for where it lists the domains its listening for
[11:29] <eitan2> linux_kid: it doesn't ask... it just defaults to nfs and doesn't let me add samba
[11:29] <xip> ikonia, root@ubuntu:/home/daniel # apt-get update
[11:29] <xip> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/main Packages
[11:29] <cMc> okay when i try to install i get "user not know to the underlying authentication module"
[11:29] <ikonia> xip: whats wrong with that
[11:29] <xip> its still listing latest version of firefox as 0.9
[11:29] <aN1> HS^_,  so if u can't be bothered do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:29] <linux_kid> eitan2: hold on, ill find somthing...
[11:29] <HS^_> aN1:  whats the difference between aptitude and apt-get/? is it required i use aptitude?
[11:29] <cMc> and a butload of loading erros that i can't read for the speed of scrowlling
[11:30] <ikonia> xip: thats the latest in the waryt repo
[11:30] <xip> :(
[11:30] <sbevill> Using a Saitek Eclipse keyboard and a Logitech wheel mouse through usb connections and they are showing very delayed response times
[11:30] <ubuntux> ikonia, k
[11:30] <xip> that sucks
[11:30] <johann> Hello! Jest moe kto kto mwi po polsku?
[11:30] <ikonia> xip: your using an old release
[11:30] <xip> ikonia, how can I manually install firefox
[11:30] <mnoir> !pl
[11:30] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:30] <aN1> HS^_,  u have to man apt-get and man aptitude for that
[11:30] <ikonia> xip: don't - use a package
[11:30] <johann> ok thx
[11:30] <xip> from?
[11:30] <johann> !pl
[11:30] <mnoir> :)
[11:31] <aN1> HS^_,  i just know aptitute is like more consistent with synaptic
[11:31] <linux_kid> eitan2: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/installing-samba.html ...that should walk you through the whole process!
[11:31] <ikonia> xip: why are you still using warty
[11:31] <Fireal> Anyone used a PSP w/ubuntu?
[11:31] <ikonia> its like asking to use internet explorer 7 on windows 98
[11:31] <spacing_guild> !proxy
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proxy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <cMc> okay when i try to install i get "user not know to the underlying authentication module"
[11:31] <cMc> and a butload of loading erros that i can't read for the speed of scrowlling
[11:31] <xip> ikonia, because its the only thing I have on hand
[11:31] <g333k_work> Hi, I'm trying to turn on my swap using "swapon -a", what's the correct way to do that?
[11:31] <ScurveyFrog> I am having the following error:
[11:32] <spacing_guild> What's a good anonymous proxy provider?
[11:32] <Sebboh> How is it possible that I can remove a package, and the app is still running?  What technology enables this?
[11:32] <eitan2> linux_kid: I already did that... samba is installed and has been installed... it just doesn't give me a choice of that in the shared folder settings
[11:32] <ikonia> well - as I said its like asking to use IE7 on win98 - its not going to happen
[11:32] <ScurveyFrog> /etc/profile: 17: id: not found
[11:32] <aN1> HS^_,  even if u copy striaght from the guide apt will say restricted modules are already installed and won't bother u
[11:32] <ScurveyFrog> this happens upon logging in to GNOME
[11:32] <mtaylor> Sebboh: the app is in memory. linux doesn't need the file to exist any more
[11:32] <linux_kid> eitan2: dapper... edgy... warty...
[11:32] <HS^_> aN1:  i installed.. now lets see if it actually works..
[11:32] <linux_kid> ?
[11:32] <ScurveyFrog> does anyone know what this means?
[11:32] <aN1> wait
[11:32] <mtaylor> Sebboh: that's standard unix/linux stuff
[11:32] <eitan2> linux_kid: dapper
[11:32] <aN1> HS^_,  do the sudo nvidia-xconfig
[11:32] <aN1> HS^_,  u have to do dat
[11:33] <frenchfry929> How can I delete items on a cd-rw on ubuntu?
[11:33] <mnoir> Sebboh: the technology that sez a running pgm is in memory and therefore doesn't care if you erased the program file"?
[11:33] <phr34ck> how can I add fonts to Ubuntu and use them ?
[11:33] <g333k_work> how can I add the swap partition on the fstab file?
[11:33] <ikonia> g333k_work: edit the fstab file
[11:33] <HS^_> aN1:  yea, i did that with last nvidia driver, then ctrl-alt-backspace. and i got  a blackscreen and needed to do recovery.  if i timeout im rebooting:P
[11:33] <ikonia> there should be one there already
[11:33] <Jordan_U> !fonts | phr34ck
[11:33] <ubotu> phr34ck: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[11:33] <ScurveyFrog> can anyone help me?
[11:33] <aN1> HS^_,  ok godspeed
[11:33] <aN1> hehe
[11:34] <blameless> mnoir: the system is basically smart enough to not delete the file completely until you close the program
[11:34] <mnoir> !swap | g333k_work
[11:34] <ubotu> g333k_work: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[11:34] <ikonia> ScurveyFrog: in /etc/profile - it wants to use the program "id" but it can't find it
[11:34] <frenchfry929> How can I delete files on a cd-rw on ubuntu?
[11:34] <Fireal> !psp
[11:34] <ubotu> psp: Perl Server Pages - Web scripting environment runtime. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-3 (edgy), package size 24 kB, installed size 116 kB
[11:34] <ScurveyFrog> ikonia: where is that usually located?
[11:34] <Sebboh> mtaylor, mnoir, but what about the application's resource files?  Like sounds and icons?
[11:34] <ikonia> ScurveyFrog: /usr/bin (I think)
[11:34] <mnoir> blameless: i know that - you might want to tell Sebboh
[11:34] <ScurveyFrog> thanks
[11:34] <Jordan_U> frenchfry929: AFIK it is not possible to delete a file from a CD-rw like a drive, you can only erase it entirely and re-write it again without that file
[11:34] <mtaylor> Sebboh: they may not be there any more, and if the app tries to open them newly, that action will fail
[11:35] <sbevill> Anyone have any thoughts on this annoying keyboard bug?
[11:35] <mtaylor> Sebboh: but if those files are already open, then you're fine
[11:35] <Sebboh> Ok.  Hmm.
[11:35] <frenchfry929> thanks jordan
[11:35] <mnoir> Sebboh: cached, not erased due to being in use.  you should not be removing things while they are running - it leads to wasted questions and possible imcomplete removals
[11:36] <linux_kid> Fireal: how much do you plan to spend for hdd storage to run a fully GUI-ed OS on a memory stick portable?
[11:36] <Sebboh> mnoir, Sure. =)  I forgot that the app doesn't close on exit; it goes to the tray.
[11:36] <mnoir> Sebboh: essentially, you are asking about a situation that is not well tested
[11:36] <cMc>  when i try to install i get "user not know to the underlying authentication module"
[11:36] <cMc> and a butload of loading erros that i can't read for the speed of scrowlling
[11:36] <mnoir> :)
[11:36] <Sebboh> s/close\ on\ exit/exit\ on\ close/
[11:36] <frenchfry929> is there anyway I can boot ubuntu without having grub pop up?
[11:37] <sbevill> delayed reaction times with a usb keyboard and mouse... not sure if its a usb driver issue, ubuntu problem, or hardware problem... saitek keyboard, logitech mouse, edgy install... any thoughts?
[11:37] <TheVault> I got a question
[11:37] <ikonia> TheVault: ask it
[11:37] <mnoir> TheVault: i gotta answer
[11:37] <mnoir> who goes first?
[11:37] <eitan2> linux_kid: are you checking?
[11:37] <dave84> I am trying to install Myth onto a standalone Ubuntu computer. Following the instructions from Ubuntu exactly alls fine until Myth-database returned "E: mythtv-database: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" any help would be great.
[11:37] <ikonia> eitan2: his is why people are not helping you. You are being a pain
[11:37] <TheVault> I was reading on http://digg.com that Linux was making something that would make installing software & updating things a whole lot easier and I'm wanting to know if this is true information or not?
[11:38] <johann> #ubuntu-pl
[11:38] <katia> oii
[11:38] <kennyt> this is on attempting a firewire link to an ibook in target mode: ohci1394: fw-host0: AT dma reset ctx=0, aborting transmission
[11:38] <kennyt> ieee1394: The root node is not cycle master capable; selecting a new root node and resetting...
[11:38] <kennyt> ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-00:1023
[11:38] <ikonia> TheVault: join ##linux - or #kernel - this is for ubuntu - not linux in general
[11:38] <TheVault> I find that Digg.com is a very accurate on their stories but I'm unsure if this is true or not
[11:38] <frenchfry929> is there any possible way that I can book linux without having grub pop up??
[11:38] <linux_kid> eitan2: yes, i have samba, but i dont seem to have the default config file, check /ect/samba/smb.conf and tell me your findings please
[11:38] <TheVault> alright
[11:38] <TheVault> Thanks
[11:38] <notme> TheVault: might be automattix but I think it has some problems
[11:38] <mnoir> TheVault: linux is a very wide subject - i am sure it is true but that doesnt narrow it down enough
[11:39] <freshburn> i have an older compaq with s3 on board video that will only run breezy in safe graphics mode, and install crashes every time, i cannot disable the video on board and replace it any ideas?
[11:40] <ikonia> freshburn: install in safe mode, then configure xorg properly
[11:40] <ikonia> you should be fine
[11:40] <aoupi> mnoir: it's tux's brain
[11:40] <mnoir> aoupi: :)
[11:40] <awesomepetter> Hi
[11:40] <frenchfry929> is there any possible way ubuntu can just boot up without grub popping up when I turn my computer on?
[11:40] <ikonia> frenchfry929: turn the time out ot 0
[11:40] <freshburn> isntall crashes at 0% and locks up completely
[11:40] <awesomepetter> is there a way to shutdown Ubuntu after some task finishes or after X minutes??
[11:41] <erUSUL> frenchfry929: set timeout to 0
[11:41] <frenchfry929> ikonia: how do I do that?  (sorry I'm kind of a newb to linux)
[11:41] <mnoir> awesomepetter: look into shutdown
[11:41] <ikonia> awesomepetter: task || shutdown -h $time
[11:41] <HS^> aN1:  it works :) but my fonts have gone ba
[11:41] <HS^> d
[11:41] <freshburn> hit esc on boot i think
[11:41] <freshburn> to enter grub menu
[11:41] <ikonia> frenchfry929: edit the menu.lst file
[11:42] <erUSUL> frenchfry929: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and search for timeout set it to 0
[11:42] <awesomepetter> mnoir ikonia thx but is this a sure method?
[11:42] <freshburn> are there s3 video issues with breezy or fixes?
[11:42] <ikonia> awesomepetter: yes
[11:42] <mnoir> awesomepetter: yes
[11:42] <ikonia> freshburn: no
[11:42] <aN1> HS^,  congrats now u can  in terminal  nvidia-settings
[11:42] <ikonia> just configure X
[11:42] <mnoir> awesomepetter: what do you mean sure?
[11:42] <aN1> HS^,  wut u mean fonts? is it resolution problem?
[11:42] <freshburn> my other option is to install on top of winXP is that possible without disturbing XP and being able to dual boot?
[11:43] <awesomepetter> i tried shutdown sometime ago and it didn't shutdown the computer...or something like that
[11:43] <HS^> aN1:  its not anti aliased anymore or something, it looked better in vesa
[11:43] <vballcrazy374> hey
[11:43] <awesomepetter> i'm not realy sure now
[11:43] <mnoir> awesomepetter: prove it.
[11:43] <ikonia> freshburn: why are you asking what to do if your not interested in doing the advice
[11:43] <linux_kid> eitan2: see pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/496/
[11:43] <aN1> HS^,  u can enable anti aliase in nvidia-settings
[11:43] <aN1> HS^,  nvidia-settings in terminal
[11:43] <awesomepetter> ok, thx and cya all
[11:43] <mnoir> awesomepetter: good luck
[11:43] <HS^> im there
[11:44] <vballcrazy374> does anyone know me
[11:44] <freshburn> um ive tried that advice, it wont install the installer locks up the pc at 0%
[11:44] <vballcrazy374> helllo
[11:44] <vballcrazy374> hello**
[11:44] <ikonia> freshburn: install in safe mode !
[11:44] <aN1> HS^,  u see antialiasing rit?
[11:44] <aN1> HS^,  overwrite application settings
[11:44] <HS^> yes
[11:44] <ikonia> or use the text installer alt CD
[11:44] <freshburn> ok like i said, it locks up
[11:44] <g333k_work> Hi, I want I to create swap on sda2 so I did: mkswap /dev/sda2, now how do I make the change permanent?
[11:44] <HS^> aN1:  what setting? theres many settings
[11:44] <freshburn> at 0%
[11:44] <ikonia> use the text installer cd
[11:44] <HS^> 1x bilinair
[11:45] <aN1> HS^,  the first one
[11:45] <aN1> HS^,  just play around and see wuts good
[11:45] <freshburn> ikonia: now that is a worthwile option, it just bugged me that livecd worked but it wont install
[11:45] <aoupi> g333k_work: you enter it in fstab (I'm not sure how to do that since the change to UUID but I'm sure some one else here knows)
[11:45] <HS^> oke now how do i make it have effect
[11:45] <HS^> restart x?
[11:45] <linux_kid> g333k_work: make it a swap formatted partition first
[11:45] <aN1> uh it should work withou restart but u can try
[11:45] <tailz> 
[11:45] <ikonia> g333k_work: I've told you how to do it
[11:45] <tailz> hello
[11:46] <tailz> ^-^
[11:46] <ikonia> and you've been given an wiki and forum link
[11:46] <HS^> it doesnt change a thing
[11:46] <tailz> i'm Korean
[11:46] <HS^> when i just change settings
[11:46] <ikonia> swap | g333k_work
[11:46] <ikonia> !swap | g333k_work
[11:46] <ubotu> g333k_work: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[11:46] <aN1> HS^,  : ( i don't no then sorri
[11:46] <linux_kid> eitan2: are you there?
[11:46] <aN1> HS^,  i normally don't worri about fonts thats just me thou
[11:46] <tailz> @_@
[11:46] <notme> tailz I live in Japan. I want to start a Japanese ubuntu channel. You should start a korean one.
[11:46] <sanityx> oh man. im trying to teach a neophyte how to configure his ethernet card, but im not allowed to just tell him how to do it. this is hard.
[11:47] <erUSUL> !jp
[11:47] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[11:47] <aN1> HS^,  wut graphics card did u have?
[11:47] <HS^> gforce go  6150
[11:47] <HS^> its in laptop built in
[11:47] <frojnd>  I forgot password for my XP, so I need similar program as saminside to recover encrypted password in file   SAM ?
[11:47] <HS^> fonts matter to me.
[11:47] <notme> erusul I made that channel. I didn't know ubotu knew about it
[11:47] <linux_kid> sanityx: i feel your pain :|
[11:48] <frenchfry929> erUSUL: How do I get the permission to change the menu.lst file
[11:48] <aN1> HS^,  aye sorri im all out of ideas maybe someone else here
[11:48] <pike_> frojnd: what you want is mkfs. mkfs.ext3 /dev/windowspartition :p
[11:48] <eitan2> linux_kid: hello? Are you still there?
[11:48] <erUSUL> frenchfry929: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:48] <ikonia> frenchfry929: sudo
[11:48] <n0cturnal_>  I have 3 identical machines. If I do a load of ubuntu on one, then dd the hard disk to the other machines, is there going to be a problem?
[11:48] <sanityx> shouldnt be
[11:49] <mnoir> n0cturnal_: 6.10?
[11:49] <n0cturnal_> ya
[11:49] <linux_kid> eitan2: see pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/496/ for a text based solution
[11:49] <BULLE> depends on how identical the identical machines are i guess
[11:49] <eitan2> Can anyone here help me get samba as an option in the shared folders settings?
[11:49] <mnoir> n0cturnal_: then at least you are going to need to change the UUIDs in fstab
[11:49] <frojnd> pike_: don't push around, ..
[11:49] <aoupi> n0cturnal_: partimage will problably be faster
[11:49] <sbevill> Hi folks, I have a question.
[11:49] <aoupi> n0cturnal_: http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page
[11:49] <notme> tailz is ubuntu popular in korea?
[11:49] <mnoir> n0cturnal_: there may be other things that are hw specific
[11:49] <ikonia> eitan2: linux_kid just gave you a work around
[11:50] <aN1> I LOVE korean food
[11:50] <ikonia> sbevill: ask it
[11:50] <cMc> so how is ubuntu doing?
[11:50] <cMc> is it getting popular?
[11:50] <pike_> frojnd: :) i know slax has drop in modules to do that so you can install em in ubuntu im just not sure what they are.
[11:50] <ikonia> cMc: what ?
[11:50] <linux_kid> !paste-bin | eitan2
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste-bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <aN1> cMc i thought ubuntu was always popular
[11:50] <mnoir> !pastebin
[11:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:50] <pike_> frojnd: might just create a slax os on a pendrive
[11:50] <cMc> hey i come from the wonderful world of the sell outs suse...
[11:50] <n0cturnal_> I've done one so far, and the only problem I have found, is the network card not being detected. they are the same make/model NIC's, the last four bits of the MAC address is the only difference :(
[11:50] <aN1> cMc i wish it wasn't soo bulk thou
[11:51] <aN1> Bulky`
[11:51] <ikonia> cMc: this is a support channel, not really discussion, it would help to not discuss so the noise is not massive in the channel
[11:51] <notme> aN1: there is a mini ubuntu project
[11:51] <cMc> *sorry*
[11:51] <ubuntux> hey postfix expoerts: i get unkown user when i receive mail.. why do i get this? are there some problems in my mysql setup or something?
[11:51] <ikonia> cMc: just a personal request
[11:51] <aN1> notme are u serious???
[11:51] <notme> yeah
[11:51] <frojnd> pike_ what is slax anyway
[11:51] <aN1> notme im gonnna check it out
[11:51] <notme> um hold on
[11:51] <pike_> frojnd: like dsl or knoppix
[11:51] <ikonia> ubuntux: you don't have a user in your auth system
[11:51] <linux_kid> cMc: you could go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:51] <ikonia> depends what you're authing against
[11:52] <pike_> frojnd: checkout their hompeage
[11:52] <pike_> page
[11:52] <sbevill> Having noticeable delays with usb mouse and keyboard response times on a new edgy install.  any suggestions on how to start correcting it?
[11:52] <cMc> are there any known issures with the 6.10 installer?
[11:52] <linux_kid> eitan2: did the pastebin solution work?
[11:52] <ubuntux> ikonia, uuh? what?
[11:52] <aoupi> n0cturnal_: hm I don't see how that can cause a problem, have you tried the net card in the working computer?
[11:52] <blanky> bryant are you here
[11:52] <pike_> frojnd: like i said im sure you can do it in ubuntu easily im just not sure of applications you need to install
[11:52] <ikonia> ubuntux: the error message is giving you a big clue - "no user found" - therefore what ever auth method your using doesn't contain the needed user
[11:52] <n0cturnal_> aoupi: it's onboard, but the machine was running breezy before I did this to it :P
[11:53] <n0cturnal_> aoupi: and was working fine
[11:53] <frogzoo> sbevill: 1st look in /var/log/messages.3.gz
[11:53] <frogzoo> sbevill: 1st look in /var/log/messages
[11:53] <frojnd> pike_: I know... that's why I asked for package :P
[11:53] <nabla> cMc, I havent heard of any problems with the installer, I used the text installer (always do) and have never had any problem.
[11:54] <ubuntux> ikonia, agree, but it when i send mail, with tls (so username/password) then everything is fine
[11:54] <aN1> notme, u talking about fluxbuntu?
[11:54] <ikonia> ubuntux: sending mail is different than getting it
[11:54] <sbevill> frogzoo: thanks, checking now
[11:54] <cMc> third cd with fine chksum from the dl and i keep getting zlib_fs returned unexpected results
[11:54] <ubuntux> ikonia, okay, but where can i look then?
[11:54] <ikonia> cMc: how much ram do you have
[11:55] <cMc> 256
[11:55] <ikonia> ubuntux: check the wiki for postfix how to
[11:55] <ikonia> you'll find it easier than asking
[11:55] <linux_kid> eitan2  hello
[11:55] <eitan2> Can anyone here help me get samba as an option in the shared folders settings?
[11:55] <aoupi> n0cturnal_: soo you don't get eth0?
[11:55] <ubuntux> ikonia, okay, tx
[11:56] <ikonia> eitan2: linux_kid has given you a work around 2 times !
[11:56] <mnoir> n0cturnal_: what about with live cd
[11:56] <ikonia> eitan2: your really becoming a pain and quite rude to the people helping you
[11:56] <aoupi> n0cturnal_: what does the output of ifconfig give?
[11:56] <sbevill> frogzoo: nothing is showing up there
[11:56] <cMc> no ideas anyone?
[11:56] <n0cturnal_> loopback only
[11:56] <linux_kid> ikonia: he must be deaf in his "linux_kid" ear!
[11:56] <notme> an1 http://www.ubuntulite.org/drupal/?q=taxonomy/term/1
[11:56] <ikonia> linux_kid: he's just ignorant - 3 people have stopped speaking to him on this problem
[11:56] <n0cturnal_> haven't tried live cd.. mainly for the reason that the machine doesn't have a cdrom drive... =\
[11:57] <aoupi> n0cturnal_: anything that seems relevant in dmesg?
[11:57] <mnoir> :(
[11:57] <n0cturnal_> aoupi: not that I can see
[11:57] <aoupi> n0cturnal_: if you run lspci do you see the card there?
[11:57] <n0cturnal_> brb i shall check
[11:57] <sbevill> frogzoo: ok, found it, what am i looking for in messages?
[11:58] <eitan2> Hello? Who can help me with this problem?
[11:58] <aN1> notme, thx check this out too http://fluxbuntu.org/
[11:58] <n0cturnal_> aoupi: yah i do
[11:58] <ikonia> eitan2: I'm going to call for an op to ban you
[11:59] <ikonia> !op
[11:59] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[11:59] <frogzoo> sbevill: something that would explain why your keyboard/mouse isn't working properly
[11:59] <aoupi> n0cturnal_: try to find out what module it needs and modprobe it
[11:59] <ikonia> is there an op free please ?
[11:59] <eitan2> Is anyone here available to help?
[12:00] <n0cturnal_> aoupi: The machine which i dd'd from's card is working. Can I tell using that what modules it needs? or what modules are loaded?
[12:00] <aoupi> n0cturnal_: lsmod should show you what is loaded
[12:00] <eitan2> hello??
[12:00] <ikonia> eitan2: you don't listen
[12:00] <n0cturnal_> aoupi: cheers, i shall go play
[12:00] <frogzoo> n0cturnal_: lsmod ?
[12:00] <notme> aN1 that's hot