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[12:05] I do. waiting for feedback from CJA [12:06] ok excellent [12:06] it's not easy choosing info for a 2 pg but you got it right I reckon === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #edubuntu [12:08] you sure? [12:08] I took bits from everywhere [12:08] jono said he thought it looked ok too [12:11] yip. My only worry was would the reader see where to get more information which is why I put the website in at the bottom [12:11] even though you already have it int the banner at the bottom [12:11] no that's a good idea [12:15] !seen mhz [12:15] I haven't seen mhz recently [12:16] hey cbx33, I remember you coming up with the idea of an "archive" for old but interesting wiki pages [12:17] any idea on how one could do it? [12:17] hmm [12:17] basically I suppose just make a page titles archive [12:17] and link to them [12:17] kinda like our cleanup page [12:18] just put the link with a short description of why we are keeping it [12:18] yeah, cause moving them to /Archive with redirects from the original would be pointless :) [12:18] (my first idea) [12:19] heh [12:19] when will we hear from CJA? [12:19] So you reckon like a wiki.e.o/EdubuntuArchive with a list of all of them. That way they have a parent, are easy to find and we don't need an extra Category [12:19] oh and I managed to save money on my train ticket too ;) [12:19] I'll ping her now [12:19] willvdl: that sounds like an excellent idea [12:19] :) hanging on the side? [12:20] heh [12:20] it's your idea [12:20] kinda ;) [12:20] ;) [12:20] hope it's liked ;) [12:23] okie, she is drafting a reply to me with some "minor text changes" - good news [12:23] excellent === jsgotangco [n=greatwhi@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [12:29] hey jsgotangco [12:29] long time no see [12:29] cbx33: yeah happy new year dude [12:29] hapy new year [12:29] cbx33: i've been busy towards the end of the year but normalising [12:30] cbx33: how are you doing? [12:31] jsgotangco, hey [12:32] willvdl: hi! how are you doing happy new year! [12:34] very good. you? How's work looking? [12:34] oh its alright, there are many things to do for this year so ive been busy, but somehow, im getting some time to experiment with linux again [12:34] so probably before the month ends i'll be doing stuff again [12:35] YAY [12:36] 1895 1749 [12:36] oops, wrong keyboard :p [12:36] hi jsgotangco willvdl and cbx33 [12:37] anyways i need a new laptop for sure [12:37] hey highvoltage [12:37] it sucks to use a laptop with a monitor [12:37] ;) [12:37] highvoltage, woop === jsgotangco hugs highvoltage [12:42] how are you doing? [12:42] busy as always :) [12:42] it's going good [12:42] i bet the bank account is piling up [12:43] I saw a cool video linked from iosn and wondered whether you were involved with that [12:44] I think it was someting that was aired on bbc [12:44] well i used to be a software consultant for iosn [12:44] there's an iosn sponsored event in 2 weeks called asiasouce in jakarta i might be there [12:44] link? [12:45] http://www.apdip.net/news/asiasource2007 [12:46] quake still affected the lines over here jeezzz some sites are crawling on my dsl [12:46] SanDisk has introduced a 32-gigabyte (GB), 1.8-inch solid-state drive (SSD) as a drop-in replacement for the standard mechanical hard disk drive. [12:46] oh boy [12:50] cbx33, feedback from CJA. about to send to you [12:50] CJA? [12:51] http://www.sandisk.com/Oem/Default.aspx?CatID=1478 [12:51] de future! [12:52] jsgotangco, Christina Armstrong: Canonical MArketing MAnager [12:52] jsgotangco, price? [12:53] jsgotangco: I saw that, it's quite cool. will make laptop batteries last much longer. an they'll work nice as disk space in moving stuff like cars and bikes [12:54] yeah [12:54] willvdl: well there's no price yet but its already released to OEMs [12:54] it'll most likely come out on ultraportables [12:55] willvdl: ahhh ive heard of her, just didnt know that she's CJA [12:55] thanks willvdl [12:56] emailed to you. do you have time to make graphics changes? I can do text (and layout to match) [12:57] highvoltage: yeah nand flash will definitely change the way we use storage on PCs [01:00] highvoltage, jsgotangco do you know why we have our wiki landing at EdubuntuWiki and at Edubuntu? [01:00] gimme 2 secs [01:00] will I can try [01:01] cbx33, I cannot do the logo moving thing... can do the rest [01:01] hehe [01:01] yes you can...I cheated ;) [01:01] but I'll sort that out for you [01:01] want me to do it before or after you do your changes? [01:04] willvdl: at some point, iirc, there were two pages that were more or less exactly the same, Edubuntu, and EdubuntuWiki. I think the one was pointed to the other to avoid duplication [01:05] yeah got that. which one do people use as the "official" landing? [01:05] cbx33, either. I'll merge my changes in nop [01:06] willvdl: I'll do it now with the one that you sent to me [01:06] ok? [01:06] perfect. [01:07] willvdl: the website points to EdubuntuWiki, so I suppose that is the official wiki page [01:08] ja. also appears to be the one msot linked from. cool [01:11] willvdl: done [01:12] sweet [01:12] it should be with you === Kamping_Kaiser is now known as `6og [01:21] cbx33, sweet. I'll make the text changes === jsgotangco [n=greatwhi@121.97.210.71] has joined #edubuntu === mat79 [n=mrzick@60.51.15.51] has joined #edubuntu [01:50] hello === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #edubuntu === jack_at_home [n=jack@221.223.28.92] has joined #edubuntu [02:22] willvdl: howz it going? [02:22] just adding some quotes [02:23] ok [02:29] highvoltage, around ? === KatteKrab [n=kattekra@ppp85-28.lns2.mel3.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@64.140.73.93] has joined #edubuntu [02:34] hey ogra [02:36] hey [02:39] ogra: yep [02:40] highvoltage, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/67390 do you have any documentation for this ? [02:41] ogra: no I haven't. I'd love to do some properly documented testing on that at some point [02:42] ogra: I can see by the bug mails that come in that you're in a bug closing mood. you can reject that for now if you want. [02:43] no, if its possible to achieve somehow (witout hacking up all the nfs code) i'd like to heave it ... [02:43] I think it would also be particularly useful in full diskless workstation environments [02:43] i thought you probably know a configuration option/workaround [02:43] so i'll keep it in whishlist status for now ... === jack_at_home [n=jack@221.223.28.92] has joined #edubuntu [02:44] unfortunately not. I meant to ask on my local lug list but haven't gotten around to it yet. I'll have to find a solution at some point in the near future, either way. [02:45] how why does shooltool not install ... hmm and lilo and ntp ... === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #edubuntu [03:01] cb33, new version emailed... === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #edubuntu [03:05] ogra: highvoltage: Surely the filesystem code should make this Just Work ? [03:06] wizzy, the common code is usually more conservative, what we want is a more specific setup thats targeted at heavy access load [03:07] i was hoping its possible through a config option or kernel parameter ... but that seems not to be the case [03:07] tftp broadcast seems like a lot of work, but would be best .. [03:07] or is it filesystem stuff ? [03:08] we're talking about nfs here ... thats way later than tftp in the process [03:08] tftp should handle the load fine [03:08] since its onl providing two files === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #edubuntu [03:09] Maybe its not easily cacheable - the nfs root is about 150 Megs, and maybe pretty much all of it is read by every client [03:09] right [03:09] but we chould probably optimize access with readahead [03:10] Maybe put the nfs root on ramdisk .. eek [03:10] the probem here is that readahead needs some extra memory on the client to cache the files there [03:11] But it is only really needed at boot time [03:11] else i'd already have done it ... but it raises the ram requirements [03:11] right [03:11] but after boot time you usually dont access the nfs root anymore [03:11] Maybe if it swaps [03:11] as soon as you logged in nfs isnt used anymore apart from basic OS tasks on the client === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #edubuntu [03:12] so the only bottleneck we have is the boot [03:13] if you start swapping over the network you have lost already ... netwrk swap is a nice add on so your client doesnt hardlock if you run out of mem, but thats about it ... its to slow to be really used for working [03:13] its only a seafety net ... [03:13] *safety [03:14] cbx33 -> inbox [03:14] Yes. But I have found even 64Meg clients run out of ram if you have lots of browser windows open. It must be X saveunder or something [03:15] that cant happen anymore since edgy (at least in edubuntu) we default to nbd swapping [03:15] bbl [03:15] in ubuntu ou need to switch it on manually === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:16] Perhaps you could try to arrange that /opt/ltsp is kept within a few cylinders on the server disk - tiny seeks === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [03:17] All disk performance woes are seek-related, no ? [03:17] or cache related ... === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #edubuntu [03:17] separate partition for /opt/ltsp ? [03:17] wont help if its on the same disk [03:18] .. as regular server stuff ? [03:18] Easy to test though [03:18] you just make the head move more then === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #edubuntu [03:20] Does caching work per-partition ? per disk ? [03:21] good question [03:21] i think both, depending on the level you look at ... [03:21] on a HW level you will have it per disk [03:21] on filesystem level its very likele you also have it per partition [03:22] bbl [03:23] what about client-side caching [03:24] http://lwn.net/Articles/105153/ [03:26] http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-cachefs [03:26] err, archives [03:26] hmm [03:27] is cachefs in the main kernel tree ? [03:28] uhm [03:28] dunno [03:28] think so [03:28] mebbe not [03:28] gtg, sorry [03:28] hmm, it needs a local disk on the client [03:28] ja [03:28] so that doesnt seem to be for ltsp [03:28] err, our setup has that [03:28] fat diskless [03:28] but the disks are still in there [03:28] right [03:28] ja, so not for thin [03:29] but thats not the default purpose of ltsp ;) [03:29] ja [03:29] right [03:29] not sure about highvoltage's specific aims atm though [03:29] i also doubt cachefs has made it into the main tree [03:29] so that would be a non trivial change to the kernel [03:30] well, generally speeding up NFS is a fine idea ... that what highvoltage aims are i think :) [03:30] apart from that you can indeed solve it with expensive HW ;) [03:31] ja [03:31] we're switching from thick to fat diskless [03:31] so we have the disks in there for playing with cachefs or ataoe or local swap or scratch space [03:31] nice === pipedream is in the same local lug as highvoltage [03:34] he just asked about the NFS there [03:34] anyhow, gtg, bye [03:34] :) [03:34] bye [03:36] oh, hi wizzy and pipedream :) [03:54] highvoltage, hmm, what about bind or move mounting the chroot to a ramdisk and serve nfs from there ? [03:54] that will indeed require a tad more ram in the server ... [03:57] ogra: yes. that's the same how I thought about it too. Ramdisks are nice.. but just expensive on memory. [03:58] ogra: and diskless fat workstations will need massive ramdisks if you'd want to do it that way :/ [03:58] ogra: from my lug I've got some useful links though [03:58] are you familiar with disk i/o elevators? [03:59] not really ... but there is documentation ;) [03:59] yes, i read about it here: http://people.redhat.com/alikins/system_tuning.html [03:59] you basically trade latency for disk throughput. it sounds useful for any LTSP server, as far as I can gather. [04:00] what we're really looking for to increase disk caching, seems to be to increase the pagecache (as described in http://www.redhat.com/magazine/001nov04/features/vm/) [04:00] the NFS part is rather common info in there ... [04:01] ah, so you're thinking about cacheing the chroot specifically? [04:01] ah, elevators are a kernel 2.4 thing, thats why i dont know about them [04:01] aren't they in 2.6 too? [04:01] that documentation is a bit dated (nov 2004), so I assumed they meant it was new in 2.4 [04:02] lets see [04:02] brb === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [04:04] ogra: for a pure thin client server, I also think the caching should be aggressive system wide, not only for the chroot [04:05] because once the clients are booted, you don't need to have the whole ltsp chroot in ram anymore [04:05] and loading multiple copies of openoffice on 20 clients, for example, chows disk bandwidth quite hard [04:06] hmm, the elevators only work for the whole disk ... === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === xnp [n=xnp@212-123-167-151.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #edubuntu [04:10] ogra: I still don't know why doing it disk-wide would be a bad thing? [04:10] hi everybody, i am looking for software to learn the french language [04:10] wich runs under linux [04:11] highvoltage, because on a single disk setup you will slow down either reading or witing ... elevators seem to only be able to trade one for the other [04:11] ah, ok. [04:12] xnp: klettres can teach you the french alphabet, at least [04:12] the french alphabet, i already know the french alphabet [04:13] my god is that it are there no program's for learning new words or grammer under linux [04:13] perhaps people who use linux already have good grammer and know lots of words :) [04:14] ogra: at least increasing the pagecache doesn't have any bad effects on writing. [04:14] ogra: actually, it should even encrease write performance, since the disk has more 'time' available to do writing === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #edubuntu [04:33] hey willvdl [04:33] looks great === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #edubuntu [04:33] cool. didn't have any quotes handy but hopefully those will work [04:33] I found that template tricky to work with. presumably scribus is easier? [04:34] yes i think so [04:34] i found that too [04:34] the clicking was very furstrating [04:34] kept selecting the background [04:34] yeah :) keeps focussing on background === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #edubuntu === jean_ [n=jean@lns-bzn-52-82-65-121-158.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:49] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki/Archive [04:49] works with https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki/Cleanup === jack_at_home [n=jack@221.223.28.92] has joined #edubuntu === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-8354261ec295d332] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [05:18] Heya [05:25] heya [05:25] Friday Afternoon => Beer ==> so long === jean_ is now known as jbrefort === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === jbrefort [n=jean@lns-bzn-29-82-248-217-72.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A956F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === Peaceful [n=Peaceful@70.98.162.62] has joined #edubuntu [07:45] I'm new to (ed)ubuntu -- I just installed 6.10 on an old PIII server I have, but after a successful installation it boots up to "This video resolution is not supported by this monitor". [07:46] Peaceful: do you know what resolution your video card/monitor can do? [07:46] I'm using a Dell lcd panel that supports up to 1280x1024. I tried booting up in safe mode and removing all the resolutions from /etc/X11/xorg.conf higher than 1024x768, but that didn't seem to make any difference. [07:47] hmm, that's odd [07:47] I would think a Dell lcd would be pretty well supported [07:47] Ya, no kidding. I was evaluating the previous version of edubuntu (6.06?) before, and it didn't have this problem. [07:47] I only have one and it works no problem [07:48] ah, that's indeed interesting [07:48] Ya, definitely a regression. [07:48] Or new bug, as the case may be. [07:49] we shipped a newer version of Xorg for 6.10 [07:49] I suspect it has something to do with the refresh rate it's trying to use, but there doesn't seem to be a manually set refresh rate in the xorg.conf for me to tweak. [07:49] what model of lcd? [07:49] let me go check... [07:51] E173FPf [07:55] Peaceful: well, you can specify the horizontal and vertical refresh ranges [07:57] Peaceful: it's a 17" ultrasharp? [07:59] ok === edubuntugirl [n=edubuntu@ubuntu/bot/edubuntugirl] has joined #edubuntu [08:01] Peaceful: do you happen to have the manual handy? [08:11] there's a manual? [08:12] heh, ok, I'll go try specifying the ranges. First I'll have to find the ranges, but I bet google can help there. [08:16] Peaceful: I got on Dell's site [08:16] and when I searched for your model I came up with something [08:17] Max Sync Rate (V x H): 76 Hz x 81 kHz [08:18] ok, so 76 for vertical, 81 for horizontal? [08:18] yeah [08:18] those are the max [08:18] I couldn't find the low end [08:18] but that's not as important really [08:18] So... maybe 60 and 70? [08:18] as it's going to try the max it can [08:19] try 40 and 50 for the bottom end [08:19] ok [08:19] 60 is a realistic number so better to go a little below that [08:19] Peaceful: do you know how to put those in Xorg.conf? [08:19] did you install from a live CD or have an ubuntu liveCD handy ? [08:20] i'd just try to run from a live CD and copy over a working xorg.conf ;) [08:20] well, that would work too ;-) [08:21] ogra: good afternoon/evening [08:21] (late evening) [08:22] you're UTC+2? [08:23] yep ... well, its not "late" but given that i work since more than 12h today it feels a bit late :) [08:23] yeah, no kidding [08:23] I just wish I had more time to help you :/ [08:24] LaserJock: Ya, I know how. Aaand, it worked! [08:24] yay! [08:24] thanks for the help [08:25] yippie ... === ogra loves happy users :-D [08:26] Peaceful: ok great, that was the only thing I could think of [08:26] sorry about that, I'm not sure why there would be a regression there === Petaris [n=Petaris@216.56.37.162] has joined #edubuntu [08:29] Hello all [08:30] hi Peaceful [08:30] or rather Petaris [08:30] heh [08:30] anyone know of a way to have LTSP (specifically AD authed users) home dirs unmounted and there local (on the ltsp server) home dirs deleted when they log off? [08:30] Hi LaserJock [08:31] Petaris, there was a spec about it with a patch attached [08:32] Hi ogra [08:32] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ltsp-persistent-home [08:32] look at the wiki for this === Petaris looks === Peaceful [n=Peaceful@70.98.162.62] has left #edubuntu [] [08:36] sbalneav demoed it to me at google ... worked very nice [08:39] ogra: do you know the status of the network auth bits? [08:39] how are they coming? [08:40] edsadmin is sitting in NEW ... the other bits are not done yet [08:40] should be ready with herd3 or 4 [08:41] hrm === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt === foRza [n=forza@195.204.224.15] has joined #edubuntu [10:01] I know this is a scarry question to ask on a Friday afternoon (for me) but is there anyone here with knowladge about pam_mount? === Petaris kicks pam_mount === zascha [n=chatzill@ip82.163.1211F-CUD12K-04.ish.de] has joined #edubuntu === thedman^ [n=guest@65-123-188-196.dia.static.frhs.org] has joined #edubuntu === thedman^ [n=guest@65-123-188-196.dia.static.frhs.org] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === Petaris [n=Petaris@216.56.37.162] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === zascha_ [n=chatzill@ip82.163.1211F-CUD12K-04.ish.de] has joined #edubuntu === zascha_ is now known as zascha === rockprincess [n=theresa@chello084112026078.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu