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| fdoving | nite. | 12:36 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: if you get an email from the KDE sysadmins, put in a good word for me :) I have Phil Rodriguez and a few others giving me their blessing :) | 01:47 |
| Riddell | nixternal: account for docs stuff? | 01:47 |
| nixternal | ya | 01:47 |
| Riddell | cool | 01:47 |
| nixternal | they are getting tired of me sending them 100 emails a day with patches, and not being able to triage the boogs myself | 01:48 |
| Jucato | they're gonna give you svn access? :) | 01:48 |
| nixternal | would be nice :) | 02:02 |
| nixternal | my name is earl is on :) | 02:02 |
| nixternal | bbiaf | 02:02 |
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| Jucato | moin Hobbsee!! | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | hey Jucato | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | *dammit* | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | the one thing i forgot to check for was pre-existing meetings.. | 02:17 |
| Jucato | :P | 02:17 |
| Jucato | CC Meeting, eh? | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | mmm...that sucks | 02:18 |
| Hobbsee | that's your 3am isnt it, Jucato? | 02:18 |
| Jucato | so we're back to Wednesday? | 02:18 |
| Jucato | uh what time? | 02:18 |
| === Jucato didn't check the CC meeting time... | ||
| Hobbsee | Jucato: no, i didnt change it | 02:19 |
| Jucato | ah | 02:19 |
| Hobbsee | [12:17] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Australia/Sydney: 10 Jan 02:00: LoCo Team | 10 Jan 03:00: Forum Council | 10 Jan 06:00: Kubuntu Developers | 10 Jan 08:00: Community Council | 10 Jan 23:00: Edubuntu | 12 Jan 08:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 02:19 |
| Jucato | hm... CC meeting is on Jan 10... didn't you reschedule ours on Jan 9? | 02:20 |
| Jucato | 08:00 UTC = 4pm here, I think | 02:21 |
| Riddell | they're both 9th in UTC time | 02:21 |
| Riddell | why not Monday? | 02:21 |
| Jucato | ah ok... that was for AU time... @_@ | 02:21 |
| === Riddell beds | ||
| Jucato | Good night Riddell! and sorry for last night | 02:26 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: no major problem - just less time for people to think and add to the agenda | 02:29 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: that paste is in au time, btw | 02:30 |
| Jucato | heh yeah, I realized. the CC meeting is 5am my time | 02:30 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, yuck | 02:30 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: you want @schedule <city> | 02:30 |
| Jucato | I'm there :) | 02:31 |
| Jucato | yeah 5am... I don't attend CC meetings anyway heheh | 02:31 |
| === Hobbsee wishes she didnt live in a sucky timezone. | ||
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| ryanakca | weee! | 02:45 |
| Jucato | hi ryanakca | 02:45 |
| ryanakca | I finally managed to convince my mum to have a 30 day trial with kubuntu :D | 02:45 |
| crimsun | awesome. | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | hey ryanakca! | 02:45 |
| ryanakca | hey Hobbsee | 02:46 |
| Jucato | nice | 02:46 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RyanKavanagh ... I'm applying for membership at the meeting :) | 02:46 |
| ryanakca | crimsun: yeah... really awesome, considering it took me a month and a half to get her to switch from IE to Firefox... | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: woot! :) | 02:47 |
| crimsun | I love the fact that my folks don't care; they just want what works. And that's what Breezy's doing for them. | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | nice :) | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | till it's EOL'd, of course | 02:47 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: now you really have to make sure ryanakca can come to the meeting :P | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: hahaha, indeed | 02:48 |
| === ryanakca remembers breezy... and hoary (or the first one, whatever it was, I had tried ubuntu, then switched to CentOS I believe...) | ||
| crimsun | already have the update-manager -d -c set for the EOL | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | first was warty :P | 02:48 |
| === Hobbsee never did warty | ||
| === Hobbsee never did dev stuff with hoary, either. | ||
| === Hobbsee was just a lowly user then :P | ||
| ryanakca | warty... 4.10 iirc... | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | yup | 02:49 |
| crimsun | I have fond memories of 4.10 | 02:49 |
| ryanakca | yeah... back then I was looking for the distro on which setting up a mail server was easiest... | 02:49 |
| crimsun | jani and I were stuffing sources.list with Debian KDE & Xfce repos | 02:50 |
| ryanakca | only managed to get it setup this summer... | 02:50 |
| ryanakca | lol | 02:50 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:50 |
| ryanakca | and then upgrading to edgy a couple weeks later whiped it out :D | 02:50 |
| Hobbsee | ubuntu's nice for setting up a file server on, we found | 02:50 |
| === ryanakca likes fish :D | ||
| ryanakca | is fish konqueror only? or does it work in Thunar or Nautilus? | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | it's a kioslave....iric | 02:51 |
| ryanakca | kk | 02:51 |
| Jucato | yep, kioslave only | 02:52 |
| Jucato | fish:// and KDE's implementation of sftp:// | 02:52 |
| ryanakca | kk | 02:52 |
| Jucato | hm.. there's a kk:// ? :P | 02:53 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: ongoing ping. x2 things, iirc. | 02:53 |
| ryanakca | brb, now that I have her HD backed up :) | 02:54 |
| ryanakca | no :P | 02:54 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: he hasn't pong'ed back, has he? | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: nope | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | but he should see that | 02:54 |
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| Hobbsee | heya neoncode, jpetso | 03:02 |
| jpetso | hi Hobbsee | 03:02 |
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| ryanakca | hmm... for some reason I can't resize the ntfs partition on the LiveCD... | 03:03 |
| ryanakca | s/on/with | 03:03 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 03:11 |
| Jucato | boo! :P | 03:11 |
| bddebian | heh | 03:12 |
| Hobbsee|Remote | ryanakca: file hte kdepim bug upstream, and link it. dont assign anything to me unless i say i'll fix it | 03:14 |
| ryanakca | hmm??? | 03:14 |
| Jucato | lol | 03:14 |
| === ryanakca wonders... | ||
| ryanakca | Oh! | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | earlier | 03:15 |
| ryanakca | now I know what you're talking about | 03:15 |
| ryanakca | kk | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | and that's in a machine i was ssh'd to, with irssi and screen | 03:15 |
| ryanakca | lol | 03:15 |
| ryanakca | hey bddebian | 03:15 |
| bddebian | Hi ryanakca | 03:16 |
| Jucato | heh | 03:16 |
| Hobbsee | haha @ that ubuntu stats, and msot active people by time of day | 03:18 |
| Hobbsee | haha @ the some big numbers, too | 03:18 |
| Hobbsee|Remote | nixternal: *cries* | 03:19 |
| Jucato | :O | 03:20 |
| Jucato | where's that stats page? | 03:20 |
| nixternal | uh oh | 03:22 |
| nixternal | link link! | 03:22 |
| Jucato | linky!?!? | 03:22 |
| nixternal | http://ubuntustats.homelinux.org | 03:24 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee|Remote: you talk to much :) | 03:24 |
| nixternal | haha, im right behind ya | 03:24 |
| Jucato | on which channel? | 03:25 |
| nixternal | this one | 03:25 |
| Jucato | aah | 03:25 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee|Remote: yells a lot !38 | 03:25 |
| nixternal | gahahahahaha | 03:25 |
| Jucato | yay! I'm no longer top at @kubuntu :) | 03:25 |
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| Hobbsee | nixternal: haha | 03:34 |
| === Hobbsee goes back to reading the logs | ||
| === Hobbsee notes that Hobbsee|Remote should perhaps be called Hobbsee|NotHere | ||
| Jucato | isn't that against the IRC guidelines? :p | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | if i'm doing nick changes, yes | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | if it's multiple clients, no | 03:35 |
| Jucato | hehe | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee|Remote | ryanakca: that i know of who use it, yes | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee|Remote | @ your comment to Riddell | 03:37 |
| Hobbsee|Remote | @ schedule times, i have the trouble that i work so much, and have uni, that i dont relaly know when i'm available, until about a week before. unless it's a 6am meeting | 03:38 |
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| Hobbsee|Remote | oops | 03:40 |
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| Hobbsee | OK, bye! | 03:41 |
| Hobbsee | work time! | 03:41 |
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| manchicken | Riddell: Thanks for the add. | 06:21 |
| manchicken | Okay, that said, it's chicken beddy-bye time. | 06:22 |
| Jucato | hi manchicken! happy new year! | 06:22 |
| manchicken | See you all tomorrow. It'll be a nice hacking time. | 06:22 |
| manchicken | Jucato: You as well my friend. | 06:22 |
| manchicken | Have a good night all. | 06:22 |
| Jucato | sweet dreams! | 06:22 |
| manchicken | BTW, ATI drivers (particularly for radeon xpress 200m) **SUCK** on laptops. All A | 06:23 |
| manchicken | All ACPI seems hosed with them. | 06:23 |
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| manchicken | Just thought I'd put that out there. I should submit a bug report, but I didn't want to have to fight with collecting info. It'd just be better to tell folks to avoid proprietary drivers. ^_^ | 06:24 |
| manchicken | That said, night. | 06:24 |
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| === Hobbsee waves | ||
| === Jucato drowns in the waves... | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe, oh dear | 08:31 |
| Hobbsee | heya Jucato :) | 08:31 |
| === Jucato remembers again how hard it is to right documentation... | ||
| Jucato | hi Hobbsee! any change in the meeting schedule? | 08:31 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: havent thought about it - my brain doesnt do that well with world times | 08:32 |
| Jucato | heh... not very pretty is it... then add the DST dance to that... | 08:32 |
| Hobbsee | nope | 08:34 |
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| Kuhrscher | Hi everybody | 08:48 |
| Kuhrscher | Who generates the source tarballs of adept? Still mornfall? | 08:48 |
| === Hobbsee waves | ||
| Hobbsee | mornfall i believe, yeah | 08:48 |
| Kuhrscher | Since the last changes in svn have been done by Riddell... | 08:49 |
| Jucato | hm.. was Adept the successor of Kapture? | 08:49 |
| Jucato | I think mornfall committed some changes to KDE SVN lately, too | 08:49 |
| Kuhrscher | Yes, you are right. | 08:51 |
| Kuhrscher | I just noticed that in the recent release (2.1.2) the upstream translations from svn are missing | 08:54 |
| Kuhrscher | It was the same for 2.1.1 some months ago... | 08:55 |
| Kuhrscher | Ok, I'll contact mornfall directly | 09:14 |
| Kuhrscher | Bye | 09:14 |
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| === Hobbsee waves again | ||
| Jucato | wb Hobbsee | 10:02 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 10:05 |
| fabo | sebas: could you take a look to the submitted patch -> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=405133 , TIA | 10:13 |
| Ubugtu | Debian bug 405133 in kde-guidance "messes up the display resolution (i.e. the dpi setting)" [Normal,Open] | 10:13 |
| sebas | fabo: Reviewing now | 10:20 |
| fabo | thks | 10:21 |
| sebas | Hm, dunno if we want this. | 10:23 |
| sebas | Simon has spent quite some time getting the DPI setting right (tm) | 10:23 |
| sebas | And it touches this stuff, of course. | 10:23 |
| sebas | I'd rather have him look at it | 10:23 |
| sebas | Can you email this to simon@simonzone.com? | 10:24 |
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| sebas | It'll take some time before he reads it, he's on vacation, but will be back well before the Feisty merge window closes | 10:24 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ping ? | 10:24 |
| Tonio_ | hello all | 10:24 |
| Hobbsee | hey Tonio_ | 10:24 |
| Tonio_ | sebas: hey | 10:24 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: how are you ? | 10:25 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: good ;) | 10:25 |
| sebas | Tonio_: Bonjour, good as ever :) | 10:25 |
| Tonio_ | I which I could say the same...... | 10:25 |
| sebas | What's wrong? | 10:25 |
| Tonio_ | my girlfriend just break our relationship.... | 10:25 |
| Hobbsee | ack! why? | 10:26 |
| sebas | Ouch :/ | 10:26 |
| Tonio_ | last week we were planning the wedding | 10:26 |
| fabo | ouch | 10:26 |
| Tonio_ | why ? | 10:26 |
| Tonio_ | because her parents don't like me and it seems to hard for her to help me on that point | 10:26 |
| Tonio_ | she prefers to stop everything, after 6 years | 10:26 |
| sebas | So she's going to marry her parents instead? :/ | 10:27 |
| Tonio_ | we were talking about a baby three days ago | 10:27 |
| === sebas is really sorry to hear that | ||
| Hobbsee | :( | 10:27 |
| Tonio_ | but the most stupid thing is that she admits that her mother his wrong, didn't make any effort, and she admits I've done the right things | 10:27 |
| Tonio_ | and she also claims she loves me | 10:27 |
| Hobbsee | she's giving up because it's too hard? | 10:28 |
| Tonio_ | did someone ever saw such a stupid context ? | 10:28 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: looks too hard for her to support me | 10:28 |
| Tonio_ | and to pressure her mother to make an effort | 10:28 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: and to defy her parents, presumably | 10:28 |
| Jucato | :( | 10:28 |
| praetor | Tonio_: woah, thats harsh man | 10:28 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: yeah, but after 1 years I would understand, if she was 18 | 10:28 |
| Tonio_ | not when 26 and baby + wedding planed !!!!! | 10:28 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: that's what i would have thought | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | that's the most incredible and stupid break I've seen in my life | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | with adult people I mean | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | so the point is that I have to leave kubuntufor a moment.......... take a break | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | that's all my life that is destroyed | 10:30 |
| Hobbsee | :( | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | I quited my job 3 month ago to go living with her | 10:30 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: how long have you known about this for? | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | I've left everything for her.......... | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | my job, my appartment, my friends........... and now she destroys everything...... | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: 2 hours | 10:31 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: do you think she'll reconsider? | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: will I be ale to pardon this ? | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | able | 10:31 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: sorry, i dont understand | 10:32 |
| Jucato | that really... sucks... :( | 10:32 |
| Tonio_ | can I accept she can take such stupid decisions after such a long time toogether ? | 10:32 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: everyone screws up. do you love her enough to? | 10:32 |
| Tonio_ | just because of her fucking mother | 10:32 |
| Hobbsee | particularly as she;s likely to have been pressured massively on this | 10:32 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I love her, of course, but I don't know if I can pardon this......... | 10:32 |
| === Hobbsee nods | ||
| Tonio_ | would you pardon someone that breaks instead of supporting you when she also agrees that her mother caused the problem ? | 10:33 |
| Tonio_ | not that much people I know would pardon this.... | 10:33 |
| Hobbsee | honestly? | 10:33 |
| Tonio_ | yes | 10:33 |
| Tonio_ | be honnest | 10:33 |
| === sebas too | ||
| Hobbsee | i'd give it a bit of time, to see how myself and $partner felt after a few days, then look at the situation | 10:33 |
| sebas | But then I'm not french :-) | 10:34 |
| === Hobbsee has made pretty big mistakes in her life too - so has everyone | ||
| Tonio_ | sebas: :) | 10:34 |
| Tonio_ | I already did enough for her and she does consider this | 10:34 |
| Tonio_ | it looks like just "normal" for her | 10:35 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: yes but are you 27 ? | 10:35 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: not according to my drivers licence | 10:35 |
| Tonio_ | everyone does big mistakes | 10:35 |
| Tonio_ | but that mistake when we just announced the wedding to everyone.......... | 10:36 |
| === Hobbsee doenst know, she hasnt been there | ||
| Hobbsee | but i would suspect your girlfriend regrets it | 10:37 |
| Tonio_ | maybe she will | 10:37 |
| Tonio_ | but she looks unlogic enough to think she did good..... | 10:37 |
| Tonio_ | "I love you, you have done everything right, you just quit everything for me, that's the end, byebye" | 10:38 |
| Tonio_ | that's the resume....... | 10:38 |
| Jucato | :O | 10:38 |
| Tonio_ | okay I don't want to complain too much here.... | 10:39 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: it's fine | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | I'll be back one day, but I don't know when, I have to take a break | 10:39 |
| Hobbsee | OK | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | find a job, an appartment, and reconstruct my brain...... | 10:40 |
| Hobbsee | yes, i was about to ask what you were going to do | 10:40 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I don't know...... | 10:40 |
| Tonio_ | I don't know what and where..... | 10:40 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: hmmm.... | 10:40 |
| Tonio_ | I don't want to go back in my parents home | 10:40 |
| sebas | Tonio_: Take the time you need, and veel warmly welcome when you're back | 10:41 |
| Tonio_ | how can I annouce everything is over ???? we announced our wedding 3 days ago ! | 10:41 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: i'd wait a bit, see how you all feel tomorrow | 10:41 |
| Tonio_ | probably angry | 10:41 |
| Tonio_ | that's what happens at the second stage | 10:42 |
| sebas | Don't break all the bridges behind you right now | 10:42 |
| crimsun | Tonio_: as bad as it is, at least KDE didn't leave you for GNOME. | 10:42 |
| sebas | It doesn't sound like there really is no way to work things out | 10:43 |
| Tonio_ | crimsun: ;) thanks for trying not to complain to much ! | 10:43 |
| sebas | Not that *I* can judge, just sounds like that | 10:43 |
| Tonio_ | it is probably better for me to ear this.... | 10:43 |
| Tonio_ | that's why I'm affraid of announcing that to my parents and friends......... | 10:43 |
| Tonio_ | 2 month of complains are coming | 10:43 |
| Hobbsee | sebas: sounds like that to me too | 10:44 |
| Tonio_ | sebas: yeah but the problem is that it always break things........ | 10:44 |
| Tonio_ | it'll create further problem | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | I don't know if I'll be able to beleive in her once again..... | 10:45 |
| Hobbsee | why dont you cross that bridge when you come to it? | 10:46 |
| Hobbsee | instead of trying to figure it all out now? | 10:46 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: because I probably won't come to it..... | 10:46 |
| Tonio_ | well I have to empty my brain | 10:46 |
| Tonio_ | I'm leaving now... thanks for listening to my complains, and I hope to see you soon | 10:46 |
| Tonio_ | have a good day | 10:47 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: OK. glad you could come in to see us though | 10:47 |
| praetor | Tonio_: take care of yourself man, all the best | 10:47 |
| sebas | Tonio_: Have strength! | 10:47 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I'll be back, just don't know when | 10:47 |
| Tonio_ | thanks everyone ! | 10:47 |
| Hobbsee | uh oh, i think soyuz ate my upload.. | 10:50 |
| Hobbsee | !sru | 10:51 |
| ubotu | Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates for main and restricted, while https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU is for universe and multiverse. | 10:51 |
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| Hobbsee | whee! | 11:06 |
| === Hobbsee is an idiot :) | ||
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| Jucato | you are? | 11:09 |
| Hobbsee | yup | 11:09 |
| Hobbsee | Changes: | 11:09 |
| Hobbsee | texfam (1.2.1-9ubuntu2) feisty; urgency=low | 11:09 |
| Hobbsee | . | 11:09 |
| Hobbsee | * Hobbsee put *down* that crack pipe! Circular dependancies are bad!!! | 11:09 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 11:10 |
| Hobbsee | package was depending on itself to install. oops | 11:10 |
| Jucato | that would be a funny app :) | 11:13 |
| Jucato | hm... | 11:14 |
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| imbrandon | Hobbsee, pong ( x2 ) | 11:30 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: yay :) | 11:30 |
| Jucato | pong pong :) | 11:30 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: now there are three :) | 11:30 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 11:30 |
| imbrandon | one i can tell you right now, build.imbrandon.com is getting an upgrade | 11:31 |
| Jucato | moin imbrandon | 11:31 |
| imbrandon | :) | 11:31 |
| imbrandon | moins Jucato | 11:31 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: summary: 1. my ssh account. 2. can praetor get a shell on buntudot, so he has a place to upload? 3. daily builds for svn konvi | 11:31 |
| Hobbsee | :D | 11:31 |
| Hobbsee | tia, ie, thanks in advance :) | 11:31 |
| Hobbsee | oh, 4, we plan for a meeting next week | 11:31 |
| imbrandon | konvi i'm working on right as we speak, sure get me in touch with praetor and build. is getting a hdd upgrade | 11:32 |
| imbrandon | and i seen the email about the meeting , all good from me | 11:32 |
| Hobbsee | way cool :) | 11:32 |
| Hobbsee | praetor: is here | 11:32 |
| Hobbsee | or was a bit ago, anyway | 11:32 |
| imbrandon | kk | 11:32 |
| imbrandon | if he dosent catch me have him email, but i'll be on for the next 9 or so hours | 11:33 |
| Jucato | wow 9 hours? :) | 11:33 |
| imbrandon | Jucato, i just got into work ;) | 11:33 |
| Jucato | aaah | 11:34 |
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| Jucato | um.. who's the contact person for Kubuntu documentation? | 11:49 |
| crimsun | rich, maybe? | 11:49 |
| crimsun | (nixternal) | 11:49 |
| Jucato | ah ok thanks | 11:50 |
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| crimsun | it's 4:50a | 11:50 |
| Jucato | too early... :) | 11:50 |
| Jucato | yeah | 11:50 |
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| ryanakca | weee... when installing kubuntu it looks like I hosed my mum's windows... it crashes at boot each time it encounters NDIS.sys | 12:36 |
| ryanakca | took me an hour to fix Mup.sys | 12:36 |
| Hobbsee | ouchy | 12:36 |
| ryanakca | Oh well, I guess she'll just have to use kubuntu for the day :) | 12:37 |
| ryanakca | all her files are there at least | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 12:38 |
| === ryanakca wonders why MS bothers putting a BSOD and only showing it for half a second before rebooting | ||
| ryanakca | so, what time is the meetings at? | 12:38 |
| Hobbsee | erm. next question | 12:40 |
| ryanakca | erm... why is windows acting up? (other than the fact it's windows) | 12:43 |
| === praetor wonders if there is a windows support channel on freenode. | ||
| === ryanakca wonders if it has anything to do with his overwriting the MBR... she had Norton GoBack logos flash at startup... wonder if it's because of that... | ||
| ryanakca | praetor: weee! thanks :P | 12:45 |
| praetor | lol there is a windows support channel | 12:47 |
| praetor | who woulda thought | 12:47 |
| Hobbsee | praetor: ##windows | 12:47 |
| Hobbsee | praetor: and email imbrandon, if he's not here now | 12:47 |
| praetor | Hobbsee: yea I had a chat to him already, cheers | 12:48 |
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| Hobbsee | praetor: :) | 12:48 |
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| ryanakca | Hobbsee: I'm screwed | 01:13 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: oh dear. why? | 01:13 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: ##windows says to format and reinstall windows | 01:13 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 01:13 |
| Hobbsee | youv'e attempted to purge norcrap? | 01:14 |
| Hobbsee | actually, if norcrap has been on your system, you'd really do better to format and reinstall windows, just to purge that off it. | 01:14 |
| praetor | ryanakca: didn't they tell you to reboot? :O | 01:14 |
| ryanakca | it was an OEM install of ME... no CD.... she bought an upgrade to xp cd and had it install/upgraded... I'd borrow an XP install cd... except the auth key I is for ME... not XP... and she lost the stuff | 01:15 |
| ryanakca | norcrap? | 01:15 |
| Hobbsee | any norton products | 01:15 |
| ryanakca | lol | 01:15 |
| praetor | loll | 01:15 |
| ryanakca | Yes... | 01:15 |
| Hobbsee | any problem goes away when you purge norton. | 01:15 |
| praetor | or reboot | 01:15 |
| ryanakca | Norton GoBack... which is what I'm guessing is causing all the problems | 01:15 |
| Hobbsee | praetor: problems that cant be solved by a reboot | 01:15 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: does windows boot? | 01:16 |
| ryanakca | praetor: I can't get windows to boo | 01:16 |
| ryanakca | t | 01:16 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: i'm sure someone has an XP serial, btw | 01:16 |
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| ryanakca | [07:06] <ryanakca> why does windows crash at ntfs.sys each time I boot? it gets there in safe mode, and then reboots. I have a recovery CD | 01:16 |
| ryanakca | [07:06] <-- Edijus has left this server. | 01:16 |
| ryanakca | [07:06] <rikkus> ryanakca: your system sounds screwed. Format, installl Windows, restore data from backup. | 01:16 |
| ryanakca | same response from 2 people :D | 01:16 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 01:16 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: hmm... take it off the school computers... | 01:16 |
| praetor | all windows problems can be solved by a reboot | 01:17 |
| praetor | this is a universal truth | 01:17 |
| Hobbsee | praetor: not quite all. | 01:17 |
| ryanakca | except she expects (hehe, say that 10 times fast)... to use it today | 01:17 |
| Hobbsee | although, removing norcrap requires a reboot too | 01:17 |
| ryanakca | praetor: what if the problem is an endless rebooting loob | 01:17 |
| Jucato | some can be solved by reformatting :) | 01:17 |
| ryanakca | *loop | 01:17 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: *grin* | 01:17 |
| ryanakca | lol | 01:17 |
| praetor | the 3r's: Reboot, Reformat, Reinstall | 01:17 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: hrm. good luck with that. kubuntu it is | 01:18 |
| praetor | the tools of a Windows System Administrator | 01:18 |
| ryanakca | yeah | 01:18 |
| Jucato | hehe :) | 01:18 |
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| ryanakca | lol | 01:18 |
| === ryanakca noticed the "Re" at the beginning of each word... does that mean that those are common tools? :P | ||
| jsgotangco | don't forget to Re-run the disk defrag utility! | 01:19 |
| Hobbsee | jsgotangco!!!!!! | 01:19 |
| ryanakca | lol | 01:19 |
| === jsgotangco tap dances | ||
| ryanakca | oooh, just thought of something | 01:20 |
| === jsgotangco hugs Hobbsee happy new year | ||
| === Hobbsee hugs jsgotangco | ||
| Jucato | logs of hugging... | 01:21 |
| === Hobbsee hugs Jucato too | ||
| Jucato | yay! | 01:21 |
| Jucato | I was about to say "/me feels jealousy building up" | 01:22 |
| ryanakca | jsgotangco: wow... must be some newfangled technology of the past... new year was 5 days ago... how can you communicate with the future? | 01:22 |
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| ryanakca | ooh.. meeting is at 1900UTC? | 01:37 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 01:37 |
| Hobbsee | so far :P | 01:37 |
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| ryanakca | hmm... I get home at about 2030UTC... oh well, I'm sure the meeting will last a couple of hours (seeing that the last was 2-3 hours long) and that membership will be towards the end... if not... alwais next time :) | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | ah right, so that's trouble for three people then | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | that was just nixternal's suggestion, as i wasnt there | 01:39 |
| ryanakca | ah | 01:39 |
| ryanakca | here, I have an idea | 01:39 |
| === ryanakca makes up a wiki table... | ||
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: my movements are so fluid i'm not sure it'd help much | 01:40 |
| Jucato_ | yay.. kubuntu theming guide done and uploaded to my site... now to determine where else it should go... | 01:45 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 01:46 |
| Jucato_ | er.. s/yay.../yay!!!/ | 01:46 |
| Jucato_ | (didn't sound very happy :P ) | 01:46 |
| Riddell | Jucato_: what does that describe? | 01:47 |
| Jucato | Riddell: just a simple guide on how to theme Kubuntu. I adepted it from the the KDE theming guide in KDE User Guide | 01:48 |
| Hobbsee | hey Riddell | 01:48 |
| Jucato | http://jucato.org/kde/kubuntuthemes.html | 01:48 |
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| Hobbsee | Zerlinna!!! | 01:48 |
| ryanakca | hey Zerlinna | 01:49 |
| Zerlinna | hi Hobbsee :) | 01:49 |
| Zerlinna | hi ryanakca | 01:49 |
| Jucato | here's the KDE Theming Guide: http://docs.kde.org/userguide/customizing-desktop.html | 01:49 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meeting/Time ... might not look "professional"... but it's a start | 01:49 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: nice. where are you, again? | 01:50 |
| Hobbsee | it's only Jucato and myself on this side of the world, isnt it? | 01:50 |
| ryanakca | Canada, Ontario, Kingston | 01:50 |
| Jucato | hehe :) | 01:50 |
| ryanakca | well, I'm half way there | 01:50 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: oh, might want to add some hours into January 10th... for the people where timezones would make it go overboard | 01:51 |
| Hobbsee | true | 01:51 |
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| Hobbsee | it appears we have 2 kubuntu meetinsg, anyway | 01:54 |
| ryanakca | 2? | 01:54 |
| ryanakca | when where how? | 01:54 |
| Hobbsee | on fridge | 01:54 |
| Hobbsee | wow, that's a lot of meetings for oen day | 01:55 |
| === ryanakca only sees one | ||
| Hobbsee | http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | 01:56 |
| ryanakca | yeah | 01:57 |
| ryanakca | 1 kubuntu one followed by an edubuntu one? | 01:58 |
| Hobbsee | look at the day before | 01:59 |
| === Jucato is confused about it all.... | ||
| Hobbsee | Jucato: i screwed it up :P | 01:59 |
| Jucato | heh no worries.. as long as it's not 4am here (7am there), I can still make it :) | 02:00 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, well... | 02:00 |
| Jucato | anyway, if I don't make it, my absence is no big deal :) | 02:01 |
| Hobbsee | well, arent you a core part of the testing team? | 02:03 |
| === Hobbsee is thinking of bumping the meeting to next week, actually | ||
| Hobbsee | argh. the week after next is LCA | 02:03 |
| Hobbsee | oh wait, that starts at 3 | 02:03 |
| ryanakca | LCA? | 02:06 |
| === ryanakca finds this all very confusing | ||
| Jucato | join me in my confusion :) | 02:06 |
| Hobbsee | linux conf australia | 02:06 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: major linux conf that a whole lot of ubuntu devs and other people are coming to | 02:07 |
| ryanakca | ah | 02:07 |
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| ryanakca | hey manchicken, mhb_ | 02:09 |
| Riddell | yo manchicken | 02:09 |
| Jucato | hi manchicken, hi mhb | 02:09 |
| Zerlinna | hi mhb_ | 02:10 |
| manchicken | Yo. | 02:10 |
| ryanakca | meh, I'll just work on getting Kubuntu set up and configured for her instead of fixing windows... I've spend enough time trying to fix it... anywais, she has a windows laptop she can use... | 02:14 |
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| ryanakca | Riddell: shall I send you the volunteer hours and and the patch in chunks? I'm at three hours on the patch and I'm a 3rd done... 40MB patch... | 02:19 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: ok | 02:21 |
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| ravermeister | hello i have got a question | 02:23 |
| ravermeister | when i type system:/ | 02:24 |
| ravermeister | in my konqueror, i get an entry called | 02:24 |
| ravermeister | storage media | 02:24 |
| ravermeister | in earlier times he showed media:/ | 02:24 |
| ravermeister | but now he shows /media, how can i change it? | 02:24 |
| ravermeister | i'm now using kubuntu edgy, before it was dapper, and there was a .desktop file somewhere in /usr/share | 02:25 |
| ravermeister | can anybody help me? or say where the location of the .desktop file of storage media is? | 02:27 |
| Riddell | /usr/share/apps/systemview/media.desktop ? | 02:27 |
| ravermeister | :) thx | 02:28 |
| ravermeister | that was it | 02:28 |
| ravermeister | was searching for it about half an hour | 02:28 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: export to CSV file? | 02:29 |
| ryanakca | or ? | 02:29 |
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| Riddell | ryanakca: what are you using? | 02:33 |
| ryanakca | KArm | 02:33 |
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| Riddell | ryanakca: should be a way to export to a nice text file | 02:33 |
| Riddell | or just copy to clipboard maybe? | 02:34 |
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| ryanakca | kk | 02:34 |
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| gnomefreak | kubuntu installs ubuntu-standard right? | 02:36 |
| ryanakca | hmm... | 02:38 |
| ryanakca | gnomefreak: think so... | 02:38 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: dont think so | 02:38 |
| ryanakca | or no | 02:39 |
| gnomefreak | i hope so | 02:39 |
| Hobbsee | it's not listed as an rdep, but i have it installed.. | 02:39 |
| ryanakca | apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop | grep -i standard doesn't show anything | 02:39 |
| Jucato | ditto | 02:39 |
| gnomefreak | i know i checked already but im hoping it installs it or i have a big issue to work out on someones upgrade :( | 02:40 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: it's got no rdepends - why would it be installed? | 02:40 |
| Riddell | it comes on the CD | 02:40 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 02:40 |
| Riddell | and is installed by default | 02:40 |
| === Hobbsee just removed it safely | ||
| Hobbsee | appeared to have, anyway | 02:41 |
| gnomefreak | ok cool ;) | 02:41 |
| gnomefreak | ty everyone | 02:41 |
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| ryanakca | Riddell: should be sent, if not, tell me.... | 02:46 |
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| mhb | hi everyone | 02:59 |
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| mhb | is the meeting time problem solved yet? | 02:59 |
| === Hobbsee whines | ||
| === Hobbsee goes back to hiding | ||
| === Jucato whines for a different reason... | ||
| Hobbsee | Jucato: what reason? | 03:02 |
| Jucato | this latest patch I'm making for Konqi... | 03:02 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 03:02 |
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| mhb | jack_at_home: you should fix your connection | 03:03 |
| mhb | jack_wyt____: ^^ | 03:03 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: I take that as no | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: no, but right now i'm looking at it | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | as opposed to before, when i was just ignoring it | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: is the 2030 hometime every day, or just wednesday? | 03:05 |
| Hobbsee | er, tuesday | 03:05 |
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| Hobbsee | hey Lure_ | 03:05 |
| Lure_ | hi Hobbsee - happy new year! | 03:06 |
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| Hobbsee | right, if we meet this week, at the preferred time (2200) UTC, it can either be monday, wednesday, or friday (utc days) | 03:06 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: don't see it | 03:06 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: :) | 03:06 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: you too :) | 03:06 |
| === Hobbsee wonders about a monday meeting... | ||
| Hobbsee | or change the meeting time, or bump to next week | 03:06 |
| === Hobbsee is coordinating with the fridge this time! argh! | ||
| Hobbsee | or ignore the CC meeting, and meet in #kubuntu-devel | 03:07 |
| Hobbsee | er, #kubuntu-meeting | 03:07 |
| === Hobbsee argh. | ||
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| Hobbsee | someone unban him when he has a stable connection please. jack_at_home ^ | 03:09 |
| Hobbsee | jack_at_home: change the nick of that, and you'll be able to get back in | 03:09 |
| Riddell | I'd rather not ignore the CC, I might be needed | 03:09 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: that's what i was thinking. | 03:10 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: what would be your thoughts on a monday meeting? | 03:10 |
| Hobbsee | is that cutting out anyone? | 03:10 |
| Hobbsee | your monday night | 03:10 |
| Hobbsee | (seeing as we can have any time we want, according to the fridge) | 03:10 |
| === Hobbsee may be needed for CC too, if there are memberships | ||
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| Hobbsee | http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=1&day=8&year=2007&hour=22&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 | 03:12 |
| === Hobbsee wishes she hadnt botched the meeting time to start with. | ||
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| mhb | monday works for me, but this time we should wait and ask more people before posting it on the fridge | 03:13 |
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| Hobbsee | mhb: i asked. no one replied. you are on the ML, arent you? | 03:13 |
| mhb | at least ask the people with agenda points & proposed members | 03:14 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: you asked on the ML about monday? | 03:14 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: no, i asked when was a good time for the meeting | 03:14 |
| Hobbsee | prior to about 12 hours ago, i didnt check for the CC meeting, and note that it was a problem | 03:14 |
| === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Hobbsee] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Happy Newness! | Merge ! http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+specs | Please add to the agenda - we want to have a meeting next week! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings - current meeting time: 8/1/07 at 2200 UTC - please ping Hobbsee if you cant make it | ||
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| Hobbsee | hey gnomefreak | 03:17 |
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| mhb | Riddell: topic says "add to the agenda" - should I add discussing the mockups of the kmilo volume up/down pop-up? | 03:19 |
| gnomefreak | hi | 03:20 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: could be interesting to give a status update, if you wanted. *shrugs* | 03:21 |
| === Hobbsee cowers from scary meetings | ||
| Riddell | mhb: sure | 03:21 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: status update? I didn't understand that. | 03:22 |
| === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Hobbsee] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Happy Newness! | Merge ! http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+specs | Please add to the agenda - we want to have a meeting next week! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings - current meeting time: 8/1/07 at 2200 UTC - please tell Hobbsee if you cant make it | ||
| Hobbsee | mhb: dont worry then | 03:22 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: I still want to know what you meant though | 03:22 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: as in, how it's going. the mockup | 03:23 |
| Hobbsee | oh i dont know | 03:23 |
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| === Hobbsee reboots brain | ||
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| Hobbsee | hey raphink | 03:24 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: tonio_'s taking a break - i presume you read the backscroll? | 03:24 |
| Jucato | sad.. really sad... | 03:25 |
| raphink | hi Hobbsee | 03:25 |
| raphink | happy new year | 03:25 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: you too :) | 03:26 |
| allee | Hobbsee: how long will be tonio's break? | 03:26 |
| Hobbsee | allee: as long as it takes him to recover, it seems | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | allee: /topic | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: ditto, /topic if you're interested | 03:28 |
| raphink | I'll try | 03:28 |
| allee | Hobbsee: thx for the info | 03:29 |
| allee | Hobbsee: meeting: 8th is fine for me | 03:29 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: 2030... that's everyday... when the bus gets back | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: right :) | 03:29 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: monday is fine with me | 03:29 |
| === Hobbsee notes that the current bit of daylight savings doesnt make the timezones suck quite so much | ||
| Hobbsee | OK | 03:30 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: kk... hmm | 03:31 |
| === mhb reads tonio's lines ... ouch | ||
| ryanakca | ? | 03:34 |
| allee | Hobbsee: afair just use @SIG@ as is. (preview does not translate it,but when saved it's tranlated) | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | allee: that doesnt appear to work for me :( | 03:35 |
| mhb | ryanakca: if that question mark was for me - read the logs | 03:35 |
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| allee | Hobbsee: Mhmm, I've added on my wiki page (without the double quotes): "test SIG. @SIG@", saved the page, and "test SIG. -- AchimBohnet 2007-01-05 15:37:00" was shown | 03:38 |
| Hobbsee | hrm, OK | 03:39 |
| === Hobbsee often has trouble with wiki things, not automatically working | ||
| allee | Hobbsee: add a pointing stick sensitvie wiki to the agenda | 03:40 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:40 |
| Hobbsee | that was even before my pointy stick | 03:40 |
| ryanakca | ah | 03:41 |
| ryanakca | eeeps! pointy stick | 03:41 |
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| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:43 |
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| matus | ko | 03:50 |
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| Hobbsee | http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/200701/pup/hamachikk1.png | 03:52 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 03:52 |
| Jucato | heh | 03:53 |
| Jucato | that actually made me smile a bit | 03:53 |
| Hobbsee | http://thedailywtf.com/Default.aspx | 03:53 |
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| jdong | Klaus Knopper I passionately hate you | 03:56 |
| jdong | stop releasing knoppix updates faster than I can download them! | 03:56 |
| Riddell | a bit harsh that | 03:56 |
| jdong | Riddell: I only passionately hate in the figurative, loving sort of way ;-) | 03:57 |
| seaLne | when is the meeting next week? the fridge has 2 meetings listed neither of which match wiki/Kubuntu/Meetings | 03:58 |
| mhb | seaLne: see /topic | 03:58 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: ^ /topic | 03:58 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt think Riddell will ask her to do any meeting-related stuff again, somehow... | ||
| seaLne | so http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event is definitly wrong as i thought? | 03:59 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 03:59 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: sent | 04:00 |
| ryanakca | lol | 04:01 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: basically, i screwed up, nixternal will presumably change it, when he wakes up | 04:01 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: I'll change the date at Kubuntu/Meetings for now ... | 04:03 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: thanks | 04:03 |
| seaLne | ah it actually lasts 22hrs on fridge not 2 meetings, that sounds fun | 04:04 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 04:05 |
| Hobbsee | useful | 04:05 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: mm, yes, 10MB e-mails will tend to get stuck in one of my mail hops :) | 04:09 |
| ryanakca | lol | 04:10 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:10 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: so what's this a patch for and why is it so huge? | 04:13 |
| === Hobbsee beds | ||
| Hobbsee | Riddell: it's full of crack, most likely :P | 04:14 |
| ryanakca | ah, the patch... it's to reorganise the layout of doc-linux-html (from source package doc-linux) to fix bug 76315 (iirc)... why is it so huge? because it will basicly contain the whole package when I'm done... (I'm still debating on making a patch or making a new .tar.bz2 containing all the HOWTOs to replace the current one)... | 04:15 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 76315 in doc-linux "Some -HOWTOs have been removed" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76315 | 04:15 |
| ryanakca | nope... not it, just a sec, I'll get the number | 04:15 |
| ryanakca | bug 76320 | 04:16 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 76320 in doc-linux "doc-linux-html is messy and inconsistent" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76320 | 04:16 |
| ryanakca | (I'm fixing 76315, 76320, 76313 and 76312 ...) | 04:17 |
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| ryanakca | say there's foobar-HOWTO.html, foobar-HOWTO-1.html, foobar-HOWTO-2.html, foobar-HOWTO-3.html, I make the directory foobar-HOWTO, copy over foobar-HOWTO.html, foobar-HOWTO-1.html, foobar-HOWTO-2.html, foobar-HOWTO-3.html, remove foobar-HOWTO-* from the original directory, and then edit foobar-HOWTO.html in the original source directory so that it redirects to foobar-HOWTO/foobar-HOWTO.html | 04:20 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: what does this patch apply against? | 04:20 |
| ryanakca | on the contents of Linux-html-HOWTOs-20061202.tar.bz2 | 04:24 |
| ryanakca | what happens is doc-linux-html is basicly the contents of Linux-html-HOWTOs-20061202.tar.bz2 (in the source package doc-linux) extracted to /usr/share/doc/HOWTO... | 04:25 |
| ryanakca | in the end, what's happening is that I'm going to have a new Linux-html-HOWTOs-20061202.tar.bz2 ... and nixternal also suggested that I add a patch so that it's visible in khelpcenter and from the menu... | 04:26 |
| ryanakca | hope I'm explaining myself properly... | 04:26 |
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| ryanakca | s/add a patch/write a patch for a .desktop | 04:27 |
| ryanakca | what I did was extract Linux-html-HOWTOs-20061202.tar.bz2 to /tmp/new and /tmp/old... I made my changes, I'm a third done.. then a diff -Nurp old new > mypatchname.patch | 04:30 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: where does Linux-html-HOWTOs-20061202.tar.bz2 come from? is it just a tar from upstream? | 04:34 |
| ryanakca | it comes from debian... | 04:34 |
| ryanakca | apt-get source doc-linux | 04:35 |
| ryanakca | ubuntu auto-syncs it from debian | 04:35 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: but do they get it from upstream or do they just create it from a bunch of docs they download from upstream? | 04:36 |
| Riddell | if it's from upstream then there may be a good reason for the directory layout? | 04:37 |
| Riddell | or there may not of course | 04:38 |
| Riddell | but this patch isn't maintainable in any way, it needs to be done with rules in debian/rules | 04:39 |
| Riddell | so just have the mkdir and mv commends in debian/rules | 04:39 |
| ryanakca | they create it | 04:43 |
| ryanakca | no? | 04:43 |
| ryanakca | hmm... | 04:43 |
| ryanakca | kk | 04:44 |
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| ryanakca | Riddell: and for the HTML redirect... make that into a patch? | 04:51 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: where they is Debian? | 04:52 |
| ryanakca | erm... | 04:52 |
| ryanakca | where they is Debian? | 04:52 |
| Riddell | 15:43 < ryanakca> they create it | 04:52 |
| ryanakca | Yes | 04:53 |
| ryanakca | from what I see | 04:53 |
| ryanakca | (the redirect page ends up looking like <html><head><title>foo bar howto, version 1</title><meta... redirection...></head></html> ) | 04:53 |
| Riddell | an echo statement in debian/rules might be the best way | 04:58 |
| Riddell | that way you just have a list of stuff that needs moved | 04:58 |
| Riddell | for asdf in foo bar baz; do mv ${asdf} HOWTO/${asdf}; echo "meta redirect..." > HOWTO-foo; done | 04:59 |
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| ryanakca | erm... soo... foo baz baz would be say, subject-HOWTO* | 05:02 |
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| Riddell | yes | 05:04 |
| Riddell | of course you need to do funky things like double escape the dollars when it's in a makefile | 05:05 |
| ryanakca | or wait... I don't think that would work... | 05:06 |
| ryanakca | because of the numbering... each howto has it's own directory | 05:06 |
| ryanakca | so, all the files of 4mb-Laptop HOWTO go into 4mb-Laptop, all files of SSH-HOWTO go into SSH-HOWTO... | 05:07 |
| ryanakca | not into a common directory... | 05:07 |
| ryanakca | and you'd have SSH-HOWTO-1.html, SSH-HOWTO-2.html, SSH-HOWTO.html | 05:07 |
| ryanakca | SSH-HOWTO* goes into SSH-HOWTO... and then SSH-HOWTO.html redirects to SSH-HOWTO/SSH-HOWTO.html... | 05:09 |
| ryanakca | would that work? | 05:09 |
| ryanakca | because all the multipage HOWTO directories are all mixed together in a common directory... | 05:09 |
| Riddell | for asdf in SSH-HOWTO; do mkdir ${asdf}; mv ${asdf}*.html ${asdf}/; done | 05:11 |
| ryanakca | s/are all mixed/are already mixed | 05:12 |
| Riddell | don't do a for loop if that makes it more complex, just list all the mv and mkdir commands, it's still more maintainable than a mega patch or remaking the .bz2 every time | 05:12 |
| ryanakca | yeah | 05:12 |
| ryanakca | I just thought if debian had a .bz2 organised, they'd be able to maintain and keep on going organised... | 05:12 |
| ryanakca | kk | 05:12 |
| ryanakca | I'll try with the loop | 05:13 |
| ryanakca | and then just have an entry for each and every HOWTO in rules, and substitute SSH-HOWTO for the name of the HOWTO... kk, thanks | 05:14 |
| Riddell | certainly tell debian about the changes, once they're final | 05:16 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 05:18 |
| Jucato | hi bddebian | 05:18 |
| bddebian | Hi Jucato | 05:18 |
| ryanakca | for asdf in SSH-HOWTO; do mkdir ${asdf}; mv ${asdf}*.html ${asdf}/; echo "<!DOCTYPE bleep>\n<HTML><HEAD>META HTTP-EQUIV=\"Refresh\" ... url=${asdf}/${asdf}.html"></HEAD></HTML>" > ${asdf}.html; done | 05:18 |
| ryanakca | hey bddebian | 05:18 |
| bddebian | Hi ryanakca | 05:19 |
| ryanakca | bddebian: I have another kssh like project on my hands :) | 05:19 |
| bddebian | heh | 05:19 |
| ryanakca | oops, echo "<!DOCTYPE bleep>\n<HTML>\n<HEAD>\n<META HTTP-EQUIV=\"Refresh\" ... url=${asdf}/${asdf}.html">\n</HEAD>\n</HTML>" > ${asdf}.html; | 05:20 |
| nixternal | so what is the new time for the meeting? has it been changed already on the fridge or should i go ahead and do it? | 05:20 |
| Riddell | nixternal: go ahead | 05:20 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: /topic | 05:20 |
| nixternal | thanks | 05:20 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 05:21 |
| nixternal | i read that as august 1st | 05:21 |
| nixternal | lol | 05:21 |
| ryanakca | lol | 05:21 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: would that work? | 05:22 |
| nixternal | ok fixed | 05:22 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: dunno, give it a shot and find out :) | 05:23 |
| Riddell | you missed a \ at .html" | 05:23 |
| === ryanakca adds one, fires up debuild and pbuilder... | ||
| ryanakca | I need url=${asdf}/${asdf}\.html ? kk | 05:24 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: btw, does gpg-agent + debuild -S -sa work for you? | 05:24 |
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| nixternal | ryanakca: yes | 05:41 |
| ryanakca | hmm... odd | 05:41 |
| nixternal | ryanakca: if it doesn't work for you, i think you can do -k<keyid> | 05:42 |
| ryanakca | it crashes for me.. doesn't ask for passphrase even | 05:42 |
| nixternal | or is that dpkg-buildpackage im thinking of | 05:42 |
| nixternal | yes you can use the -k | 05:42 |
| nixternal | you could also use the DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS configuration file option as described above to avoid having to type the -k option each time you do a sponsored upload. | 05:43 |
| nixternal | that is from the man page | 05:43 |
| ryanakca | hmm... works, thanks :D | 05:43 |
| nixternal | i used to have that problem | 05:44 |
| nixternal | also ryanakca if you install pinentry-qt when you do that, it should pop up the gui password box instead | 05:44 |
| === ryanakca has pinentry-qt installed for kmail :) | ||
| nixternal | but i have noticed in the past, if you leave gpg alone, ootb it works perfect, except for some instances of kmail | 05:45 |
| raphink | anyone knows sbuild well? | 05:45 |
| fdoving | !anyone | 05:47 |
| ubotu | A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? | 05:47 |
| fdoving | :) | 05:47 |
| toma | lol | 05:48 |
| nixternal | haha | 05:49 |
| fdoving | raphink: what is your problem with sbuild, i setup a buildd once, not that i remeber anything of that, but one could be lucky. | 05:49 |
| raphink | I'm setting a buildd too | 05:49 |
| raphink | the problem is with chroots | 05:49 |
| raphink | sbuild uses chroot-unstable well | 05:50 |
| raphink | but not chroot-stable, chroot-testing or any other | 05:50 |
| fdoving | did you follow one of the setup-guides around? | 05:50 |
| fdoving | i belive there was one at db.debian.org somewhere.. | 05:50 |
| raphink | I checked quite a lot | 05:51 |
| raphink | I've been trying to set this build farm for about 1 month | 05:51 |
| raphink | I'm ending up having to put chroots inside chroots | 05:51 |
| raphink | and still blocked with a few sbuild stuff | 05:51 |
| raphink | any idea fdoving? | 05:52 |
| fdoving | hard to say, the only thing i know is that it doesn't work, i have no idea what you've done and so on. | 05:53 |
| raphink | :( | 05:53 |
| fdoving | http://kmuto.jp/open.cgi?buildd | 05:53 |
| fdoving | one guide.. | 05:53 |
| raphink | well for some reason, it seems to be linked to the distribution name | 05:53 |
| raphink | if I rename the chroot to chroot-unstable instead of chroot-stable and call sbuild with --dist=unstable instead of --dist=stable, it works | 05:53 |
| raphink | it has to do with the name of the distribution | 05:53 |
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| fdoving | raphink: i have no idea. i used http://www.debian.org/devel/buildd/setting-up when setting up mine. | 06:04 |
| raphink | hmmm ok | 06:06 |
| raphink | the thing is that you can find several recipes on how to set a buildd | 06:06 |
| raphink | different ways of doing it | 06:06 |
| raphink | but nowhere does it explain how it works | 06:06 |
| raphink | there are lots of manuals missing | 06:06 |
| raphink | so if you're not initiated, it's a bit of a mess | 06:06 |
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| fdoving | there is a mailinglist too.. | 06:15 |
| raphink | where? | 06:16 |
| fdoving | http://mailman.nocrew.org/pipermail/buildd-disc/ | 06:18 |
| fdoving | looks like it's just spam though. | 06:18 |
| raphink | thanks | 06:18 |
| raphink | lol | 06:18 |
| raphink | indeed | 06:18 |
| raphink | ok so I'm stuck with that thing that doesn't work :( | 06:19 |
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| Riddell | Lure: digikamimageplugins got in! | 06:20 |
| raphink | after more than 2 weeks trying to make it work :( | 06:20 |
| Lure | Riddell: great - so what has kept it back? | 06:21 |
| Riddell | Lure: soyuz broke http://librarian.launchpad.net/5548495/A5fthh1B20Azq01vNRec2PkDRqa.txt | 06:21 |
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| Riddell | but colin was a hero and fixed it | 06:21 |
| Lure | Riddell: colin rocks! | 06:22 |
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| Jucato | hi jpatrick! happy new year! | 07:01 |
| jpatrick | Jucato: happy new year and everything else Jucato! | 07:02 |
| Jucato | hehe :) | 07:02 |
| jpatrick | still alive | 07:02 |
| gnomefreak | before a package is oked to go into devel do the devs have to upload a .deb or just debdiff? | 07:02 |
| jpatrick | gnomefreak: they upload the source package | 07:03 |
| gnomefreak | hmmm :( | 07:04 |
| Jucato | nixternal: are you the man for Kubuntu docs? | 07:05 |
| sebas | Riddell: I think LABEL and UUID support in mountconfig is complete now. | 07:05 |
| nixternal | Jucato: i guess | 07:05 |
| sebas | I.e. it can detect a LABEL, UUIDs and can set them up properly in fstab. | 07:05 |
| sebas | LABEL and UUID -- when not known already -- are being read from HAL. | 07:06 |
| sebas | Works for me on Edgy, some testing would be nice | 07:06 |
| sebas | I'm off now, dinner date with Kim | 07:06 |
| sebas | Cheerios | 07:06 |
| nixternal | cheerios for dinner ;p | 07:06 |
| sebas | No, churrasco, supposedly :P | 07:06 |
| sebas | gotta run | 07:07 |
| nixternal | oooh | 07:07 |
| nixternal | have fun | 07:07 |
| nixternal | Jucato: whats up with the kubuntu docs stuff? | 07:15 |
| Jucato | oh sorry... getting into a different discussion ehehe | 07:15 |
| nixternal | hehe | 07:15 |
| === Jucato never realized getting a patch accepted is more difficult than writing it... | ||
| Jucato | anyway, nixternal, where would be the best place to put up a How to theme Kubuntu guide? | 07:16 |
| nixternal | the wiki | 07:16 |
| nixternal | help.ubuntu.com/community | 07:16 |
| Jucato | ok, not the wiki.ubuntu.com, right? | 07:17 |
| Jucato | me is still confused about the 2 | 07:17 |
| nixternal | correct | 07:17 |
| nixternal | wiki.ubuntu.com is supposedly for development use, and the h.u.c/community is for the documentation wiki for the community | 07:17 |
| nixternal | we have put in a spec to change the domains once again to clarify everything | 07:17 |
| Jucato | ah... maybe one day the distinction will be clearer.. | 07:18 |
| Jucato | some stuff are in the w.u.c that should be in h.u.c... | 07:18 |
| nixternal | help.ubuntu.com/community becoming just help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com becoming something like dev.ubuntu.com | 07:18 |
| nixternal | Jucato: yes, and they will eventually get moved over | 07:18 |
| Jucato | hm... any process I should follow? guidelines?rules? should I go to #ubuntu-docs and ask these questions? | 07:19 |
| nixternal | there is a wiki style guide out there somewhere | 07:20 |
| nixternal | as long as the page is clear and concise, leave out the word newbie, which a lot of people have trouble doing so | 07:20 |
| nixternal | try not to us first person | 07:20 |
| nixternal | like the Nvidia docs on teh wiki, they are the worst docs I have seen to date | 07:21 |
| Jucato | ixternal: here's the guide btw http://jucato.org/kde/kubuntuthemes.html (and I used the 2nd person) | 07:21 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: if wiki.u.c is for devel use, why not rename it to dev.ubuntu.com ? | 07:24 |
| nixternal | ryanakca: that is the plan :) | 07:24 |
| ryanakca | ah | 07:24 |
| === ryanakca though wiki was for documentation as well | ||
| Jucato | it started out as that, iirc | 07:25 |
| nixternal | Jucato: i really like that kubuntu button on that page | 07:25 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 07:25 |
| Jucato | thanks | 07:26 |
| fdoving | l | 07:26 |
| fdoving | ops.. wrong keyboard :) | 07:26 |
| nixternal | heh | 07:28 |
| Jucato | hm.. I guess I have to take this up tomorrow again... need to go to sleep | 07:31 |
| nixternal | Riddell: http://contest.qtcentre.org/ <-- possibly a good blog item? | 07:33 |
| Jucato | g'night guys! :) | 07:34 |
| fdoving | nite jucato. | 07:34 |
| Jucato | nite fdoving, nixternal, ryanakca, jpatrick, Riddell | 07:35 |
| Jucato | heh | 07:35 |
| nixternal | Jucato: before you go | 07:35 |
| jpatrick | nite | 07:35 |
| Jucato | nixternal: yep? | 07:35 |
| nixternal | if possible, your writeup on the customising the desktop, might be nice to do something in the system documentation with that | 07:35 |
| nixternal | i will look over it more, and see what we have currently, and then get back with you on that | 07:36 |
| Jucato | oh ok :) | 07:36 |
| nixternal | i would like to have that info accessible to people w/o an internet connection as well | 07:36 |
| nixternal | i.e., KHelpCenter or Konqueror | 07:36 |
| nixternal | ok, now you can goto bed :) | 07:36 |
| Jucato | btw, that guide is based on the same guide I made for KDE, which is/will be in KDE 3.5.6 KDE User's Guide | 07:36 |
| nixternal | sweet | 07:37 |
| nixternal | then it may already get in there then :) | 07:37 |
| Jucato | I had to redo it for System Settings references | 07:37 |
| nixternal | ooh, and im waiting for my svn access as well. i see some trouble coming for kde docs :) | 07:37 |
| Jucato | lol :) | 07:37 |
| Jucato | good luck to both of us :) | 07:37 |
| nixternal | hehe, ditto | 07:38 |
| === Jucato has 1 doc, 2 patches for Konqueror | ||
| Jucato | only that doc made it to 3.5.6 | 07:38 |
| Jucato | ok, really heading for bed now :) | 07:38 |
| nixternal | g'nite | 07:39 |
| Riddell | nixternal: yes, I'll publish a dot story at some point | 07:41 |
| nixternal | i think there is a dot story already, just not published | 07:42 |
| nixternal | i forgot you were a dot editor as well | 07:42 |
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| Lure | Riddell: last kdebase patch does not apply - http://librarian.launchpad.net/5601419/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-sparc.kdebase_4%3A3.5.5a.dfsg.1-1ubuntu14_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 09:46 |
| Riddell | oh fooey | 09:52 |
| Riddell | well it applied when I wrote it | 09:52 |
| Riddell | probably I forgot to unapply it | 09:52 |
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| allee | hi. digikamimageplugins fails on ia64 and sparc Anyone knows what this source dependency conflict is about (ia64)? http://librarian.launchpad.net/5604396/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-sparc.digikamimageplugins_0.9.0-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 11:02 |
| Riddell | has it failed elsewhere? | 11:08 |
| Lure | Riddell: no, as I just installed it on i386 ;-) | 11:09 |
| Riddell | then just let the ports buildd admins sort it out | 11:11 |
| mhb | I've been resizing&symlinking some Human icons so that they can be used in KDE more effectively (just for myself). What do you think - should I try to get those changes in the human-icon-theme package or should we leave Human for GNOME only ? | 11:14 |
| Riddell | sure, talk to dholbach about it when he's back from holiday | 11:16 |
| mhb | and another thing - there's a /usr/share/wallpapers dir with wallpapers for KDE and there's a /usr/share/backgrounds dir with wallpapers for GNOME. Can we (somehow) make that one dir? | 11:20 |
| Riddell | I've tried | 11:20 |
| Riddell | they weren't very interested | 11:21 |
| mhb | Riddell: who? | 11:21 |
| Riddell | the gnome dudes | 11:23 |
| Riddell | upstream | 11:24 |
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| Riddell | hello shnee | 11:24 |
| Riddell | of course for KDE 4 I could just change KDE to use backgrounds/ | 11:24 |
| mhb | Riddell: hmm, I wonder why ... I don't see any disadvantages of using one directory | 11:26 |
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| Riddell | well I was also trying to standardise the meta data, which is less important | 11:27 |
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