=== Jucato [n=jucato@210.213.222.188] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A70F17.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:36] nite. === tonyyserver [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:47] Riddell: if you get an email from the KDE sysadmins, put in a good word for me :) I have Phil Rodriguez and a few others giving me their blessing :) [01:47] nixternal: account for docs stuff? [01:47] ya [01:47] cool [01:48] they are getting tired of me sending them 100 emails a day with patches, and not being able to triage the boogs myself [01:48] they're gonna give you svn access? :) [02:02] would be nice :) [02:02] my name is earl is on :) [02:02] bbiaf === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:15] moin Hobbsee!! [02:17] hey Jucato [02:17] *dammit* [02:17] the one thing i forgot to check for was pre-existing meetings.. [02:17] :P [02:17] CC Meeting, eh? [02:17] yeah [02:18] mmm...that sucks [02:18] that's your 3am isnt it, Jucato? [02:18] so we're back to Wednesday? [02:18] uh what time? === Jucato didn't check the CC meeting time... [02:19] Jucato: no, i didnt change it [02:19] ah [02:19] [12:17] Schedule for Australia/Sydney: 10 Jan 02:00: LoCo Team | 10 Jan 03:00: Forum Council | 10 Jan 06:00: Kubuntu Developers | 10 Jan 08:00: Community Council | 10 Jan 23:00: Edubuntu | 12 Jan 08:00: Ubuntu Development Team [02:20] hm... CC meeting is on Jan 10... didn't you reschedule ours on Jan 9? [02:21] 08:00 UTC = 4pm here, I think [02:21] they're both 9th in UTC time [02:21] why not Monday? [02:21] ah ok... that was for AU time... @_@ === Riddell beds [02:26] Good night Riddell! and sorry for last night [02:29] Riddell: no major problem - just less time for people to think and add to the agenda [02:30] Jucato: that paste is in au time, btw [02:30] heh yeah, I realized. the CC meeting is 5am my time [02:30] yeah, yuck [02:30] Jucato: you want @schedule [02:31] I'm there :) [02:31] yeah 5am... I don't attend CC meetings anyway heheh === Hobbsee wishes she didnt live in a sucky timezone. === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:45] weee! [02:45] hi ryanakca [02:45] I finally managed to convince my mum to have a 30 day trial with kubuntu :D [02:45] awesome. [02:45] hey ryanakca! [02:46] hey Hobbsee [02:46] nice [02:46] Hobbsee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RyanKavanagh ... I'm applying for membership at the meeting :) [02:46] crimsun: yeah... really awesome, considering it took me a month and a half to get her to switch from IE to Firefox... [02:47] ryanakca: woot! :) [02:47] I love the fact that my folks don't care; they just want what works. And that's what Breezy's doing for them. [02:47] nice :) [02:47] till it's EOL'd, of course [02:48] Hobbsee: now you really have to make sure ryanakca can come to the meeting :P [02:48] Jucato: hahaha, indeed === ryanakca remembers breezy... and hoary (or the first one, whatever it was, I had tried ubuntu, then switched to CentOS I believe...) [02:48] already have the update-manager -d -c set for the EOL [02:48] first was warty :P === Hobbsee never did warty === Hobbsee never did dev stuff with hoary, either. === Hobbsee was just a lowly user then :P [02:49] warty... 4.10 iirc... [02:49] yup [02:49] I have fond memories of 4.10 [02:49] yeah... back then I was looking for the distro on which setting up a mail server was easiest... [02:50] jani and I were stuffing sources.list with Debian KDE & Xfce repos [02:50] only managed to get it setup this summer... [02:50] lol [02:50] hehe [02:50] and then upgrading to edgy a couple weeks later whiped it out :D [02:50] ubuntu's nice for setting up a file server on, we found === ryanakca likes fish :D [02:51] is fish konqueror only? or does it work in Thunar or Nautilus? [02:51] it's a kioslave....iric [02:51] kk [02:52] yep, kioslave only [02:52] fish:// and KDE's implementation of sftp:// [02:52] kk [02:53] hm.. there's a kk:// ? :P [02:53] imbrandon: ongoing ping. x2 things, iirc. [02:54] brb, now that I have her HD backed up :) [02:54] no :P [02:54] Hobbsee: he hasn't pong'ed back, has he? [02:54] Jucato: nope [02:54] but he should see that === neoncode [n=neoncode@84.13.142.118] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:02] heya neoncode, jpetso [03:02] hi Hobbsee === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.49.220.221] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:03] hmm... for some reason I can't resize the ntfs partition on the LiveCD... [03:03] s/on/with === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.49.220.221] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:11] Heya [03:11] boo! :P [03:12] heh [03:14] ryanakca: file hte kdepim bug upstream, and link it. dont assign anything to me unless i say i'll fix it [03:14] hmm??? [03:14] lol === ryanakca wonders... [03:15] Oh! [03:15] earlier [03:15] now I know what you're talking about [03:15] kk [03:15] and that's in a machine i was ssh'd to, with irssi and screen [03:15] lol [03:15] hey bddebian [03:16] Hi ryanakca [03:16] heh [03:18] haha @ that ubuntu stats, and msot active people by time of day [03:18] haha @ the some big numbers, too [03:19] nixternal: *cries* [03:20] :O [03:20] where's that stats page? [03:22] uh oh [03:22] link link! [03:22] linky!?!? [03:24] http://ubuntustats.homelinux.org [03:24] Hobbsee|Remote: you talk to much :) [03:24] haha, im right behind ya [03:25] on which channel? [03:25] this one [03:25] aah [03:25] Hobbsee|Remote: yells a lot !38 [03:25] gahahahahaha [03:25] yay! I'm no longer top at @kubuntu :) === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.49.220.221] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.221] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:34] nixternal: haha === Hobbsee goes back to reading the logs === Hobbsee notes that Hobbsee|Remote should perhaps be called Hobbsee|NotHere [03:35] isn't that against the IRC guidelines? :p [03:35] if i'm doing nick changes, yes [03:35] if it's multiple clients, no [03:36] hehe [03:36] ryanakca: that i know of who use it, yes [03:37] @ your comment to Riddell [03:38] @ schedule times, i have the trouble that i work so much, and have uni, that i dont relaly know when i'm available, until about a week before. unless it's a 6am meeting === Hobbsee|Remote [n=user@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === Hobbsee|Remote [n=user@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:40] oops === Hobbsee|Remote is now known as Hobbsee|NotHere [03:41] OK, bye! 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[06:22] Okay, that said, it's chicken beddy-bye time. [06:22] hi manchicken! happy new year! [06:22] See you all tomorrow. It'll be a nice hacking time. [06:22] Jucato: You as well my friend. [06:22] Have a good night all. [06:22] sweet dreams! [06:23] BTW, ATI drivers (particularly for radeon xpress 200m) **SUCK** on laptops. All A [06:23] All ACPI seems hosed with them. === mayday_jay [n=maydayja@maydayjay.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:24] Just thought I'd put that out there. I should submit a bug report, but I didn't want to have to fight with collecting info. It'd just be better to tell folks to avoid proprietary drivers. ^_^ [06:24] That said, night. === mayday_jay [n=maydayja@maydayjay.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.49.220.221] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee waves === Jucato drowns in the waves... [08:31] hehe, oh dear [08:31] heya Jucato :) === Jucato remembers again how hard it is to right documentation... [08:31] hi Hobbsee! any change in the meeting schedule? [08:32] Jucato: havent thought about it - my brain doesnt do that well with world times [08:32] heh... not very pretty is it... then add the DST dance to that... [08:34] nope === Hobbsee|NotHere [n=user@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === Kuhrscher [n=jannick@91.64.2.231] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.49.220.221] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:48] Hi everybody [08:48] Who generates the source tarballs of adept? Still mornfall? === Hobbsee waves [08:48] mornfall i believe, yeah [08:49] Since the last changes in svn have been done by Riddell... [08:49] hm.. was Adept the successor of Kapture? [08:49] I think mornfall committed some changes to KDE SVN lately, too [08:51] Yes, you are right. [08:54] I just noticed that in the recent release (2.1.2) the upstream translations from svn are missing [08:55] It was the same for 2.1.1 some months ago... [09:14] Ok, I'll contact mornfall directly [09:14] Bye === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.49.220.221] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee waves again [10:02] wb Hobbsee [10:05] :) [10:13] sebas: could you take a look to the submitted patch -> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=405133 , TIA [10:13] Debian bug 405133 in kde-guidance "messes up the display resolution (i.e. the dpi setting)" [Normal,Open] [10:20] fabo: Reviewing now [10:21] thks [10:23] Hm, dunno if we want this. [10:23] Simon has spent quite some time getting the DPI setting right (tm) [10:23] And it touches this stuff, of course. [10:23] I'd rather have him look at it [10:24] Can you email this to simon@simonzone.com? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@63.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:24] It'll take some time before he reads it, he's on vacation, but will be back well before the Feisty merge window closes [10:24] Riddell: ping ? [10:24] hello all [10:24] hey Tonio_ [10:24] sebas: hey [10:25] Hobbsee: how are you ? [10:25] Tonio_: good ;) [10:25] Tonio_: Bonjour, good as ever :) [10:25] I which I could say the same...... [10:25] What's wrong? [10:25] my girlfriend just break our relationship.... [10:26] ack! why? [10:26] Ouch :/ [10:26] last week we were planning the wedding [10:26] ouch [10:26] why ? [10:26] because her parents don't like me and it seems to hard for her to help me on that point [10:26] she prefers to stop everything, after 6 years [10:27] So she's going to marry her parents instead? :/ [10:27] we were talking about a baby three days ago === sebas is really sorry to hear that [10:27] :( [10:27] but the most stupid thing is that she admits that her mother his wrong, didn't make any effort, and she admits I've done the right things [10:27] and she also claims she loves me [10:28] she's giving up because it's too hard? [10:28] did someone ever saw such a stupid context ? [10:28] Hobbsee: looks too hard for her to support me [10:28] and to pressure her mother to make an effort [10:28] Tonio_: and to defy her parents, presumably [10:28] :( [10:28] Tonio_: woah, thats harsh man [10:28] Hobbsee: yeah, but after 1 years I would understand, if she was 18 [10:28] not when 26 and baby + wedding planed !!!!! [10:29] Tonio_: that's what i would have thought [10:29] that's the most incredible and stupid break I've seen in my life [10:29] with adult people I mean [10:30] so the point is that I have to leave kubuntufor a moment.......... take a break [10:30] that's all my life that is destroyed [10:30] :( [10:30] I quited my job 3 month ago to go living with her [10:30] Tonio_: how long have you known about this for? [10:31] I've left everything for her.......... [10:31] my job, my appartment, my friends........... and now she destroys everything...... [10:31] Hobbsee: 2 hours [10:31] Tonio_: do you think she'll reconsider? [10:31] Hobbsee: will I be ale to pardon this ? [10:31] able [10:32] Tonio_: sorry, i dont understand [10:32] that really... sucks... :( [10:32] can I accept she can take such stupid decisions after such a long time toogether ? [10:32] Tonio_: everyone screws up. do you love her enough to? [10:32] just because of her fucking mother [10:32] particularly as she;s likely to have been pressured massively on this [10:32] Hobbsee: I love her, of course, but I don't know if I can pardon this......... === Hobbsee nods [10:33] would you pardon someone that breaks instead of supporting you when she also agrees that her mother caused the problem ? [10:33] not that much people I know would pardon this.... [10:33] honestly? [10:33] yes [10:33] be honnest === sebas too [10:33] i'd give it a bit of time, to see how myself and $partner felt after a few days, then look at the situation [10:34] But then I'm not french :-) === Hobbsee has made pretty big mistakes in her life too - so has everyone [10:34] sebas: :) [10:34] I already did enough for her and she does consider this [10:35] it looks like just "normal" for her [10:35] Hobbsee: yes but are you 27 ? [10:35] Tonio_: not according to my drivers licence [10:35] everyone does big mistakes [10:36] but that mistake when we just announced the wedding to everyone.......... === Hobbsee doenst know, she hasnt been there [10:37] but i would suspect your girlfriend regrets it [10:37] maybe she will [10:37] but she looks unlogic enough to think she did good..... [10:38] "I love you, you have done everything right, you just quit everything for me, that's the end, byebye" [10:38] that's the resume....... [10:38] :O [10:39] okay I don't want to complain too much here.... [10:39] Tonio_: it's fine [10:39] I'll be back one day, but I don't know when, I have to take a break [10:39] OK [10:40] find a job, an appartment, and reconstruct my brain...... [10:40] yes, i was about to ask what you were going to do [10:40] Hobbsee: I don't know...... [10:40] I don't know what and where..... [10:40] Tonio_: hmmm.... [10:40] I don't want to go back in my parents home [10:41] Tonio_: Take the time you need, and veel warmly welcome when you're back [10:41] how can I annouce everything is over ???? we announced our wedding 3 days ago ! [10:41] Tonio_: i'd wait a bit, see how you all feel tomorrow [10:41] probably angry [10:42] that's what happens at the second stage [10:42] Don't break all the bridges behind you right now [10:42] Tonio_: as bad as it is, at least KDE didn't leave you for GNOME. [10:43] It doesn't sound like there really is no way to work things out [10:43] crimsun: ;) thanks for trying not to complain to much ! [10:43] Not that *I* can judge, just sounds like that [10:43] it is probably better for me to ear this.... [10:43] that's why I'm affraid of announcing that to my parents and friends......... [10:43] 2 month of complains are coming [10:44] sebas: sounds like that to me too [10:44] sebas: yeah but the problem is that it always break things........ [10:45] it'll create further problem [10:45] I don't know if I'll be able to beleive in her once again..... [10:46] why dont you cross that bridge when you come to it? [10:46] instead of trying to figure it all out now? [10:46] Hobbsee: because I probably won't come to it..... [10:46] well I have to empty my brain [10:46] I'm leaving now... thanks for listening to my complains, and I hope to see you soon [10:47] have a good day [10:47] Tonio_: OK. glad you could come in to see us though [10:47] Tonio_: take care of yourself man, all the best [10:47] Tonio_: Have strength! [10:47] Hobbsee: I'll be back, just don't know when [10:47] thanks everyone ! [10:50] uh oh, i think soyuz ate my upload.. [10:51] !sru [10:51] Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates for main and restricted, while https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU is for universe and multiverse. === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:06] whee! === Hobbsee is an idiot :) === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.49.220.221] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:09] you are? [11:09] yup [11:09] Changes: [11:09] texfam (1.2.1-9ubuntu2) feisty; urgency=low [11:09] . [11:09] * Hobbsee put *down* that crack pipe! Circular dependancies are bad!!! [11:10] heh :) [11:10] package was depending on itself to install. oops [11:13] that would be a funny app :) [11:14] hm... === vndrx [n=vindr@59.184.174.251] has joined #kubuntu-devel === vndrx [n=vindr@59.184.174.251] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.49.220.221] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:30] Hobbsee, pong ( x2 ) [11:30] imbrandon: yay :) [11:30] pong pong :) [11:30] imbrandon: now there are three :) [11:30] hehe [11:31] one i can tell you right now, build.imbrandon.com is getting an upgrade [11:31] moin imbrandon [11:31] :) [11:31] moins Jucato [11:31] imbrandon: summary: 1. my ssh account. 2. can praetor get a shell on buntudot, so he has a place to upload? 3. daily builds for svn konvi [11:31] :D [11:31] tia, ie, thanks in advance :) [11:31] oh, 4, we plan for a meeting next week [11:32] konvi i'm working on right as we speak, sure get me in touch with praetor and build. is getting a hdd upgrade [11:32] and i seen the email about the meeting , all good from me [11:32] way cool :) [11:32] praetor: is here [11:32] or was a bit ago, anyway [11:32] kk [11:33] if he dosent catch me have him email, but i'll be on for the next 9 or so hours [11:33] wow 9 hours? :) [11:33] Jucato, i just got into work ;) [11:34] aaah === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.49.220.221] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Kuhrscher [n=jannick@91.64.2.231] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.49.220.221] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.49.220.221] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:49] um.. who's the contact person for Kubuntu documentation? [11:49] rich, maybe? [11:49] (nixternal) [11:50] ah ok thanks === Jucato looks at the clock for chicago... [11:50] it's 4:50a [11:50] too early... :) [11:50] yeah === Jucato has one panel setup with clock applets for different timezones... === jack_wyt___ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === shnee [n=CurtyD13@cpe-24-26-131-198.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=greatwhi@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:36] weee... when installing kubuntu it looks like I hosed my mum's windows... it crashes at boot each time it encounters NDIS.sys [12:36] took me an hour to fix Mup.sys [12:36] ouchy [12:37] Oh well, I guess she'll just have to use kubuntu for the day :) [12:37] all her files are there at least [12:38] hehe === ryanakca wonders why MS bothers putting a BSOD and only showing it for half a second before rebooting [12:38] so, what time is the meetings at? [12:40] erm. next question [12:43] erm... why is windows acting up? (other than the fact it's windows) === praetor wonders if there is a windows support channel on freenode. === ryanakca wonders if it has anything to do with his overwriting the MBR... she had Norton GoBack logos flash at startup... wonder if it's because of that... [12:45] praetor: weee! thanks :P [12:47] lol there is a windows support channel [12:47] who woulda thought [12:47] praetor: ##windows [12:47] praetor: and email imbrandon, if he's not here now [12:48] Hobbsee: yea I had a chat to him already, cheers === hunger_ is now known as hunger [12:48] praetor: :) === praetor [n=praetor@211.27.210.13] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=goldenea@2001:6f8:392:1:213:2ff:fe4a:53a7] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:13] Hobbsee: I'm screwed [01:13] ryanakca: oh dear. why? [01:13] Hobbsee: ##windows says to format and reinstall windows [01:13] ah [01:14] youv'e attempted to purge norcrap? [01:14] actually, if norcrap has been on your system, you'd really do better to format and reinstall windows, just to purge that off it. [01:14] ryanakca: didn't they tell you to reboot? :O [01:15] it was an OEM install of ME... no CD.... she bought an upgrade to xp cd and had it install/upgraded... I'd borrow an XP install cd... except the auth key I is for ME... not XP... and she lost the stuff [01:15] norcrap? [01:15] any norton products [01:15] lol [01:15] loll [01:15] Yes... [01:15] any problem goes away when you purge norton. [01:15] or reboot [01:15] Norton GoBack... which is what I'm guessing is causing all the problems [01:15] praetor: problems that cant be solved by a reboot [01:16] ryanakca: does windows boot? [01:16] praetor: I can't get windows to boo [01:16] t [01:16] ryanakca: i'm sure someone has an XP serial, btw === Hobbsee smacks self [01:16] [07:06] why does windows crash at ntfs.sys each time I boot? it gets there in safe mode, and then reboots. I have a recovery CD [01:16] [07:06] <-- Edijus has left this server. [01:16] [07:06] ryanakca: your system sounds screwed. Format, installl Windows, restore data from backup. [01:16] same response from 2 people :D [01:16] heh [01:16] Hobbsee: hmm... take it off the school computers... [01:17] all windows problems can be solved by a reboot [01:17] this is a universal truth [01:17] praetor: not quite all. [01:17] except she expects (hehe, say that 10 times fast)... to use it today [01:17] although, removing norcrap requires a reboot too [01:17] praetor: what if the problem is an endless rebooting loob [01:17] some can be solved by reformatting :) [01:17] *loop [01:17] Jucato: *grin* [01:17] lol [01:17] the 3r's: Reboot, Reformat, Reinstall [01:18] ryanakca: hrm. good luck with that. kubuntu it is [01:18] the tools of a Windows System Administrator [01:18] yeah [01:18] hehe :) === ryanakca goes to write his will [01:18] lol === ryanakca noticed the "Re" at the beginning of each word... does that mean that those are common tools? :P [01:19] don't forget to Re-run the disk defrag utility! [01:19] jsgotangco!!!!!! [01:19] lol === jsgotangco tap dances [01:20] oooh, just thought of something === jsgotangco hugs Hobbsee happy new year === Hobbsee hugs jsgotangco [01:21] logs of hugging... === Hobbsee hugs Jucato too [01:21] yay! [01:22] I was about to say "/me feels jealousy building up" [01:22] jsgotangco: wow... must be some newfangled technology of the past... new year was 5 days ago... how can you communicate with the future? === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-129-055.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=greatwhi@121.97.210.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:37] ooh.. meeting is at 1900UTC? [01:37] yeah [01:37] so far :P === Jucato_ [n=jucato@210.213.222.188] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:39] hmm... I get home at about 2030UTC... oh well, I'm sure the meeting will last a couple of hours (seeing that the last was 2-3 hours long) and that membership will be towards the end... if not... alwais next time :) [01:39] ah right, so that's trouble for three people then [01:39] that was just nixternal's suggestion, as i wasnt there [01:39] ah [01:39] here, I have an idea === ryanakca makes up a wiki table... [01:40] ryanakca: my movements are so fluid i'm not sure it'd help much [01:45] yay.. kubuntu theming guide done and uploaded to my site... now to determine where else it should go... [01:46] :) [01:46] er.. s/yay.../yay!!!/ [01:46] (didn't sound very happy :P ) [01:47] Jucato_: what does that describe? [01:48] Riddell: just a simple guide on how to theme Kubuntu. I adepted it from the the KDE theming guide in KDE User Guide [01:48] hey Riddell [01:48] http://jucato.org/kde/kubuntuthemes.html === Zerlinna [n=Zerlinna@167.63.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:48] Zerlinna!!! [01:49] hey Zerlinna [01:49] hi Hobbsee :) [01:49] hi ryanakca [01:49] here's the KDE Theming Guide: http://docs.kde.org/userguide/customizing-desktop.html [01:49] Hobbsee: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meeting/Time ... might not look "professional"... but it's a start [01:50] ryanakca: nice. where are you, again? [01:50] it's only Jucato and myself on this side of the world, isnt it? [01:50] Canada, Ontario, Kingston [01:50] hehe :) [01:50] well, I'm half way there [01:51] Hobbsee: oh, might want to add some hours into January 10th... for the people where timezones would make it go overboard [01:51] true === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:54] it appears we have 2 kubuntu meetinsg, anyway [01:54] 2? [01:54] when where how? [01:54] on fridge [01:55] wow, that's a lot of meetings for oen day === ryanakca only sees one [01:56] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event [01:57] yeah [01:58] 1 kubuntu one followed by an edubuntu one? [01:59] look at the day before === Jucato is confused about it all.... [01:59] Jucato: i screwed it up :P [02:00] heh no worries.. as long as it's not 4am here (7am there), I can still make it :) [02:00] yeah, well... [02:01] anyway, if I don't make it, my absence is no big deal :) [02:03] well, arent you a core part of the testing team? === Hobbsee is thinking of bumping the meeting to next week, actually [02:03] argh. the week after next is LCA [02:03] oh wait, that starts at 3 [02:06] LCA? === ryanakca finds this all very confusing [02:06] join me in my confusion :) [02:06] linux conf australia [02:07] ryanakca: major linux conf that a whole lot of ubuntu devs and other people are coming to [02:07] ah === mhb_ [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:09] hey manchicken, mhb_ [02:09] yo manchicken [02:09] hi manchicken, hi mhb [02:10] hi mhb_ [02:10] Yo. [02:14] meh, I'll just work on getting Kubuntu set up and configured for her instead of fixing windows... I've spend enough time trying to fix it... anywais, she has a windows laptop she can use... === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@vpnc080.ugent.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:19] Riddell: shall I send you the volunteer hours and and the patch in chunks? I'm at three hours on the patch and I'm a 3rd done... 40MB patch... [02:21] ryanakca: ok === jack_at_home [n=jack@221.223.28.92] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ravermeister [n=ravermei@p5086F421.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:23] hello i have got a question [02:24] when i type system:/ [02:24] in my konqueror, i get an entry called [02:24] storage media [02:24] in earlier times he showed media:/ [02:24] but now he shows /media, how can i change it? [02:25] i'm now using kubuntu edgy, before it was dapper, and there was a .desktop file somewhere in /usr/share [02:27] can anybody help me? or say where the location of the .desktop file of storage media is? [02:27] /usr/share/apps/systemview/media.desktop ? [02:28] :) thx [02:28] that was it [02:28] was searching for it about half an hour [02:29] Riddell: export to CSV file? [02:29] or ? === hunger_ [n=tobias@p54A72CA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === niroxx__ [n=niroxx@achn-4db497e4.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:33] ryanakca: what are you using? [02:33] KArm === Bionicle [n=luca@249-157.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:33] ryanakca: should be a way to export to a nice text file [02:34] or just copy to clipboard maybe? === Bionicle [n=luca@249-157.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [02:34] kk === hunger_ is now known as hunger [02:36] kubuntu installs ubuntu-standard right? [02:38] hmm... [02:38] gnomefreak: think so... [02:38] gnomefreak: dont think so [02:39] or no [02:39] i hope so [02:39] it's not listed as an rdep, but i have it installed.. [02:39] apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop | grep -i standard doesn't show anything [02:39] ditto [02:40] i know i checked already but im hoping it installs it or i have a big issue to work out on someones upgrade :( [02:40] gnomefreak: it's got no rdepends - why would it be installed? [02:40] it comes on the CD [02:40] ah [02:40] and is installed by default === Hobbsee just removed it safely [02:41] appeared to have, anyway [02:41] ok cool ;) [02:41] ty everyone === jack_at_home [n=jack@221.223.28.92] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:46] Riddell: should be sent, if not, tell me.... === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A72CA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A72CA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === niroxx_ [n=niroxx@achn-4db493c4.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb_ is now known as mhb [02:59] hi everyone === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:59] is the meeting time problem solved yet? === Hobbsee whines === Hobbsee goes back to hiding === Jucato whines for a different reason... [03:02] Jucato: what reason? [03:02] this latest patch I'm making for Konqi... [03:02] ah === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:03] jack_at_home: you should fix your connection [03:03] jack_wyt____: ^^ [03:04] Hobbsee: I take that as no [03:04] mhb: no, but right now i'm looking at it [03:04] as opposed to before, when i was just ignoring it [03:05] ryanakca: is the 2030 hometime every day, or just wednesday? [03:05] er, tuesday === Lure_ [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:05] hey Lure_ [03:06] hi Hobbsee - happy new year! === Lure_ is now known as Lure [03:06] right, if we meet this week, at the preferred time (2200) UTC, it can either be monday, wednesday, or friday (utc days) [03:06] ryanakca: don't see it [03:06] Lure: :) [03:06] Lure: you too :) === Hobbsee wonders about a monday meeting... [03:06] or change the meeting time, or bump to next week === Hobbsee is coordinating with the fridge this time! argh! [03:07] or ignore the CC meeting, and meet in #kubuntu-devel [03:07] er, #kubuntu-meeting === Hobbsee argh. === jack_wyt____ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+o Hobbsee] by ChanServ === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+b jack_wyt____!*@*] by Hobbsee === jack_wyt____ was kicked off #kubuntu-devel by Hobbsee (Hobbsee) === mode/#kubuntu-devel [-o Hobbsee] by ChanServ [03:09] someone unban him when he has a stable connection please. jack_at_home ^ [03:09] jack_at_home: change the nick of that, and you'll be able to get back in [03:09] I'd rather not ignore the CC, I might be needed [03:10] Riddell: that's what i was thinking. [03:10] Riddell: what would be your thoughts on a monday meeting? [03:10] is that cutting out anyone? [03:10] your monday night [03:10] (seeing as we can have any time we want, according to the fridge) === Hobbsee may be needed for CC too, if there are memberships === niroxx_ [n=niroxx@achn-4db49195.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:12] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=1&day=8&year=2007&hour=22&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 === Hobbsee wishes she hadnt botched the meeting time to start with. === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:13] monday works for me, but this time we should wait and ask more people before posting it on the fridge === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@vpna121.ugent.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:13] mhb: i asked. no one replied. you are on the ML, arent you? [03:14] at least ask the people with agenda points & proposed members [03:14] Hobbsee: you asked on the ML about monday? [03:14] mhb: no, i asked when was a good time for the meeting [03:14] prior to about 12 hours ago, i didnt check for the CC meeting, and note that it was a problem === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Hobbsee] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Happy Newness! | Merge ! http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+specs | Please add to the agenda - we want to have a meeting next week! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings - current meeting time: 8/1/07 at 2200 UTC - please ping Hobbsee if you cant make it === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:17] hey gnomefreak === Hobbsee|NotHere [n=user@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:19] Riddell: topic says "add to the agenda" - should I add discussing the mockups of the kmilo volume up/down pop-up? [03:20] hi [03:21] mhb: could be interesting to give a status update, if you wanted. *shrugs* === Hobbsee cowers from scary meetings [03:21] mhb: sure [03:22] Hobbsee: status update? I didn't understand that. === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Hobbsee] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Happy Newness! | Merge ! http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+specs | Please add to the agenda - we want to have a meeting next week! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings - current meeting time: 8/1/07 at 2200 UTC - please tell Hobbsee if you cant make it [03:22] mhb: dont worry then [03:22] Hobbsee: I still want to know what you meant though [03:23] mhb: as in, how it's going. the mockup [03:23] oh i dont know === Hobbsee starts to suspect her brain is dead === Hobbsee reboots brain === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:24] hey raphink === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-132-071.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:24] Riddell: tonio_'s taking a break - i presume you read the backscroll? [03:25] sad.. really sad... [03:25] hi Hobbsee [03:25] happy new year [03:26] raphink: you too :) [03:26] Hobbsee: how long will be tonio's break? [03:27] allee: as long as it takes him to recover, it seems [03:27] allee: /topic [03:28] :) [03:28] raphink: ditto, /topic if you're interested [03:28] I'll try [03:29] Hobbsee: thx for the info [03:29] Hobbsee: meeting: 8th is fine for me [03:29] Hobbsee: 2030... that's everyday... when the bus gets back [03:29] ryanakca: right :) [03:29] Hobbsee: monday is fine with me === Hobbsee notes that the current bit of daylight savings doesnt make the timezones suck quite so much [03:30] OK [03:31] Riddell: kk... hmm === mhb reads tonio's lines ... ouch [03:34] ? [03:34] Hobbsee: afair just use @SIG@ as is. (preview does not translate it,but when saved it's tranlated) [03:35] allee: that doesnt appear to work for me :( [03:35] ryanakca: if that question mark was for me - read the logs === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:38] Hobbsee: Mhmm, I've added on my wiki page (without the double quotes): "test SIG. @SIG@", saved the page, and "test SIG. -- AchimBohnet 2007-01-05 15:37:00" was shown [03:39] hrm, OK === Hobbsee often has trouble with wiki things, not automatically working [03:40] Hobbsee: add a pointing stick sensitvie wiki to the agenda [03:40] hehe [03:40] that was even before my pointy stick [03:41] ah [03:41] eeeps! pointy stick === hunger [n=tobias@p54A72CA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:43] hehe === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === matlec [n=matlec@91.89.80.134] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rideout [n=rideout@71-215-81-103.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === matus [n=Matus@217.73.25.254] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:50] ko === matus [n=Matus@217.73.25.254] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [03:52] http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/200701/pup/hamachikk1.png [03:52] haha [03:53] heh [03:53] that actually made me smile a bit [03:53] http://thedailywtf.com/Default.aspx === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@86-39-5-149.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:56] Klaus Knopper I passionately hate you [03:56] stop releasing knoppix updates faster than I can download them! [03:56] a bit harsh that [03:57] Riddell: I only passionately hate in the figurative, loving sort of way ;-) [03:58] when is the meeting next week? the fridge has 2 meetings listed neither of which match wiki/Kubuntu/Meetings [03:58] seaLne: see /topic [03:58] seaLne: ^ /topic === Hobbsee doesnt think Riddell will ask her to do any meeting-related stuff again, somehow... [03:59] so http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event is definitly wrong as i thought? [03:59] yes [04:00] Riddell: sent [04:01] lol [04:01] seaLne: basically, i screwed up, nixternal will presumably change it, when he wakes up [04:03] Hobbsee: I'll change the date at Kubuntu/Meetings for now ... [04:03] mhb: thanks [04:04] ah it actually lasts 22hrs on fridge not 2 meetings, that sounds fun [04:05] hah [04:05] useful [04:09] ryanakca: mm, yes, 10MB e-mails will tend to get stuck in one of my mail hops :) [04:10] lol [04:10] hehe [04:13] ryanakca: so what's this a patch for and why is it so huge? === Hobbsee beds [04:14] Riddell: it's full of crack, most likely :P [04:15] ah, the patch... it's to reorganise the layout of doc-linux-html (from source package doc-linux) to fix bug 76315 (iirc)... why is it so huge? because it will basicly contain the whole package when I'm done... (I'm still debating on making a patch or making a new .tar.bz2 containing all the HOWTOs to replace the current one)... [04:15] Malone bug 76315 in doc-linux "Some -HOWTOs have been removed" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76315 [04:15] nope... not it, just a sec, I'll get the number [04:16] bug 76320 [04:16] Malone bug 76320 in doc-linux "doc-linux-html is messy and inconsistent" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76320 [04:17] (I'm fixing 76315, 76320, 76313 and 76312 ...) === hunger [n=tobias@p54A72CA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:20] say there's foobar-HOWTO.html, foobar-HOWTO-1.html, foobar-HOWTO-2.html, foobar-HOWTO-3.html, I make the directory foobar-HOWTO, copy over foobar-HOWTO.html, foobar-HOWTO-1.html, foobar-HOWTO-2.html, foobar-HOWTO-3.html, remove foobar-HOWTO-* from the original directory, and then edit foobar-HOWTO.html in the original source directory so that it redirects to foobar-HOWTO/foobar-HOWTO.html [04:20] ryanakca: what does this patch apply against? [04:24] on the contents of Linux-html-HOWTOs-20061202.tar.bz2 [04:25] what happens is doc-linux-html is basicly the contents of Linux-html-HOWTOs-20061202.tar.bz2 (in the source package doc-linux) extracted to /usr/share/doc/HOWTO... [04:26] in the end, what's happening is that I'm going to have a new Linux-html-HOWTOs-20061202.tar.bz2 ... and nixternal also suggested that I add a patch so that it's visible in khelpcenter and from the menu... [04:26] hope I'm explaining myself properly... === hunger [n=tobias@p54A72CA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:27] s/add a patch/write a patch for a .desktop [04:30] what I did was extract Linux-html-HOWTOs-20061202.tar.bz2 to /tmp/new and /tmp/old... I made my changes, I'm a third done.. then a diff -Nurp old new > mypatchname.patch [04:34] ryanakca: where does Linux-html-HOWTOs-20061202.tar.bz2 come from? is it just a tar from upstream? [04:34] it comes from debian... [04:35] apt-get source doc-linux [04:35] ubuntu auto-syncs it from debian [04:36] ryanakca: but do they get it from upstream or do they just create it from a bunch of docs they download from upstream? [04:37] if it's from upstream then there may be a good reason for the directory layout? [04:38] or there may not of course [04:39] but this patch isn't maintainable in any way, it needs to be done with rules in debian/rules [04:39] so just have the mkdir and mv commends in debian/rules [04:43] they create it [04:43] no? [04:43] hmm... [04:44] kk === niroxx_ is now known as niroxx [04:51] Riddell: and for the HTML redirect... make that into a patch? [04:52] ryanakca: where they is Debian? [04:52] erm... [04:52] where they is Debian? [04:52] 15:43 < ryanakca> they create it [04:53] Yes [04:53] from what I see [04:53] (the redirect page ends up looking like foo bar howto, version 1 ) [04:58] an echo statement in debian/rules might be the best way [04:58] that way you just have a list of stuff that needs moved [04:59] for asdf in foo bar baz; do mv ${asdf} HOWTO/${asdf}; echo "meta redirect..." > HOWTO-foo; done === jack_at_home [n=jack@221.223.28.92] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:02] erm... soo... foo baz baz would be say, subject-HOWTO* === mbiebl [n=michael@e180070114.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:04] yes [05:05] of course you need to do funky things like double escape the dollars when it's in a makefile [05:06] or wait... I don't think that would work... [05:06] because of the numbering... each howto has it's own directory [05:07] so, all the files of 4mb-Laptop HOWTO go into 4mb-Laptop, all files of SSH-HOWTO go into SSH-HOWTO... [05:07] not into a common directory... [05:07] and you'd have SSH-HOWTO-1.html, SSH-HOWTO-2.html, SSH-HOWTO.html [05:09] SSH-HOWTO* goes into SSH-HOWTO... and then SSH-HOWTO.html redirects to SSH-HOWTO/SSH-HOWTO.html... [05:09] would that work? [05:09] because all the multipage HOWTO directories are all mixed together in a common directory... [05:11] for asdf in SSH-HOWTO; do mkdir ${asdf}; mv ${asdf}*.html ${asdf}/; done [05:12] s/are all mixed/are already mixed [05:12] don't do a for loop if that makes it more complex, just list all the mv and mkdir commands, it's still more maintainable than a mega patch or remaking the .bz2 every time [05:12] yeah [05:12] I just thought if debian had a .bz2 organised, they'd be able to maintain and keep on going organised... [05:12] kk [05:13] I'll try with the loop [05:14] and then just have an entry for each and every HOWTO in rules, and substitute SSH-HOWTO for the name of the HOWTO... kk, thanks [05:16] certainly tell debian about the changes, once they're final === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:18] Heya [05:18] hi bddebian [05:18] Hi Jucato [05:18] for asdf in SSH-HOWTO; do mkdir ${asdf}; mv ${asdf}*.html ${asdf}/; echo "\nMETA HTTP-EQUIV=\"Refresh\" ... url=${asdf}/${asdf}.html">" > ${asdf}.html; done [05:18] hey bddebian [05:19] Hi ryanakca [05:19] bddebian: I have another kssh like project on my hands :) [05:19] heh [05:20] oops, echo "\n\n\n\n\n" > ${asdf}.html; [05:20] so what is the new time for the meeting? has it been changed already on the fridge or should i go ahead and do it? [05:20] nixternal: go ahead [05:20] nixternal: /topic [05:20] thanks [05:21] hahaha [05:21] i read that as august 1st [05:21] lol [05:21] lol [05:22] Riddell: would that work? [05:22] ok fixed [05:23] ryanakca: dunno, give it a shot and find out :) [05:23] you missed a \ at .html" === ryanakca adds one, fires up debuild and pbuilder... [05:24] I need url=${asdf}/${asdf}\.html ? kk [05:24] nixternal: btw, does gpg-agent + debuild -S -sa work for you? === sahin_w [i=kvirc@nat/hp/x-8552a90ab0ed2995] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:41] ryanakca: yes [05:41] hmm... odd [05:42] ryanakca: if it doesn't work for you, i think you can do -k [05:42] it crashes for me.. doesn't ask for passphrase even [05:42] or is that dpkg-buildpackage im thinking of [05:42] yes you can use the -k [05:43] you could also use the DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS configuration file option as described above to avoid having to type the -k option each time you do a sponsored upload. [05:43] that is from the man page [05:43] hmm... works, thanks :D [05:44] i used to have that problem [05:44] also ryanakca if you install pinentry-qt when you do that, it should pop up the gui password box instead === ryanakca has pinentry-qt installed for kmail :) [05:45] but i have noticed in the past, if you leave gpg alone, ootb it works perfect, except for some instances of kmail [05:45] anyone knows sbuild well? [05:47] !anyone [05:47] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [05:47] :) [05:48] lol [05:49] haha [05:49] raphink: what is your problem with sbuild, i setup a buildd once, not that i remeber anything of that, but one could be lucky. [05:49] I'm setting a buildd too [05:49] the problem is with chroots [05:50] sbuild uses chroot-unstable well [05:50] but not chroot-stable, chroot-testing or any other [05:50] did you follow one of the setup-guides around? [05:50] i belive there was one at db.debian.org somewhere.. [05:51] I checked quite a lot [05:51] I've been trying to set this build farm for about 1 month [05:51] I'm ending up having to put chroots inside chroots [05:51] and still blocked with a few sbuild stuff [05:52] any idea fdoving? [05:53] hard to say, the only thing i know is that it doesn't work, i have no idea what you've done and so on. [05:53] :( [05:53] http://kmuto.jp/open.cgi?buildd [05:53] one guide.. [05:53] well for some reason, it seems to be linked to the distribution name [05:53] if I rename the chroot to chroot-unstable instead of chroot-stable and call sbuild with --dist=unstable instead of --dist=stable, it works [05:53] it has to do with the name of the distribution === marseillai [n=cyril@AMarseille-256-1-126-197.w90-10.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:04] raphink: i have no idea. i used http://www.debian.org/devel/buildd/setting-up when setting up mine. [06:06] hmmm ok [06:06] the thing is that you can find several recipes on how to set a buildd [06:06] different ways of doing it [06:06] but nowhere does it explain how it works [06:06] there are lots of manuals missing [06:06] so if you're not initiated, it's a bit of a mess === geser [n=michael@dialin105139.justdsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === geser [n=michael@dialin105139.justdsl.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [06:15] there is a mailinglist too.. [06:16] where? [06:18] http://mailman.nocrew.org/pipermail/buildd-disc/ [06:18] looks like it's just spam though. [06:18] thanks [06:18] lol [06:18] indeed [06:19] ok so I'm stuck with that thing that doesn't work :( === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:20] Lure: digikamimageplugins got in! [06:20] after more than 2 weeks trying to make it work :( [06:21] Riddell: great - so what has kept it back? [06:21] Lure: soyuz broke http://librarian.launchpad.net/5548495/A5fthh1B20Azq01vNRec2PkDRqa.txt === froud [n=sean@dsl-242-143-145.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:21] but colin was a hero and fixed it [06:22] Riddell: colin rocks! === neoncode [n=neoncode@84.13.142.118] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpatrick [n=patrick@208.Red-88-14-82.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ [n=cyril@AMarseille-256-1-150-231.w90-10.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:01] hi jpatrick! happy new year! [07:02] Jucato: happy new year and everything else Jucato! [07:02] hehe :) [07:02] still alive [07:02] before a package is oked to go into devel do the devs have to upload a .deb or just debdiff? [07:03] gnomefreak: they upload the source package [07:04] hmmm :( [07:05] nixternal: are you the man for Kubuntu docs? [07:05] Riddell: I think LABEL and UUID support in mountconfig is complete now. [07:05] Jucato: i guess [07:05] I.e. it can detect a LABEL, UUIDs and can set them up properly in fstab. [07:06] LABEL and UUID -- when not known already -- are being read from HAL. [07:06] Works for me on Edgy, some testing would be nice [07:06] I'm off now, dinner date with Kim [07:06] Cheerios [07:06] cheerios for dinner ;p [07:06] No, churrasco, supposedly :P [07:07] gotta run [07:07] oooh [07:07] have fun [07:15] Jucato: whats up with the kubuntu docs stuff? [07:15] oh sorry... getting into a different discussion ehehe [07:15] hehe === Jucato never realized getting a patch accepted is more difficult than writing it... [07:16] anyway, nixternal, where would be the best place to put up a How to theme Kubuntu guide? [07:16] the wiki [07:16] help.ubuntu.com/community [07:17] ok, not the wiki.ubuntu.com, right? [07:17] me is still confused about the 2 [07:17] correct [07:17] wiki.ubuntu.com is supposedly for development use, and the h.u.c/community is for the documentation wiki for the community [07:17] we have put in a spec to change the domains once again to clarify everything [07:18] ah... maybe one day the distinction will be clearer.. [07:18] some stuff are in the w.u.c that should be in h.u.c... [07:18] help.ubuntu.com/community becoming just help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com becoming something like dev.ubuntu.com [07:18] Jucato: yes, and they will eventually get moved over [07:19] hm... any process I should follow? guidelines?rules? should I go to #ubuntu-docs and ask these questions? [07:20] there is a wiki style guide out there somewhere [07:20] as long as the page is clear and concise, leave out the word newbie, which a lot of people have trouble doing so [07:20] try not to us first person [07:21] like the Nvidia docs on teh wiki, they are the worst docs I have seen to date [07:21] ixternal: here's the guide btw http://jucato.org/kde/kubuntuthemes.html (and I used the 2nd person) [07:24] nixternal: if wiki.u.c is for devel use, why not rename it to dev.ubuntu.com ? [07:24] ryanakca: that is the plan :) [07:24] ah === ryanakca though wiki was for documentation as well [07:25] it started out as that, iirc [07:25] Jucato: i really like that kubuntu button on that page [07:25] heh :) [07:26] thanks [07:26] l [07:26] ops.. wrong keyboard :) [07:28] heh [07:31] hm.. I guess I have to take this up tomorrow again... need to go to sleep [07:33] Riddell: http://contest.qtcentre.org/ <-- possibly a good blog item? [07:34] g'night guys! :) [07:34] nite jucato. [07:35] nite fdoving, nixternal, ryanakca, jpatrick, Riddell [07:35] heh [07:35] Jucato: before you go [07:35] nite [07:35] nixternal: yep? [07:35] if possible, your writeup on the customising the desktop, might be nice to do something in the system documentation with that [07:36] i will look over it more, and see what we have currently, and then get back with you on that [07:36] oh ok :) [07:36] i would like to have that info accessible to people w/o an internet connection as well [07:36] i.e., KHelpCenter or Konqueror [07:36] ok, now you can goto bed :) [07:36] btw, that guide is based on the same guide I made for KDE, which is/will be in KDE 3.5.6 KDE User's Guide [07:37] sweet [07:37] then it may already get in there then :) [07:37] I had to redo it for System Settings references [07:37] ooh, and im waiting for my svn access as well. i see some trouble coming for kde docs :) [07:37] lol :) [07:37] good luck to both of us :) [07:38] hehe, ditto === Jucato has 1 doc, 2 patches for Konqueror [07:38] only that doc made it to 3.5.6 [07:38] ok, really heading for bed now :) [07:39] g'nite [07:41] nixternal: yes, I'll publish a dot story at some point [07:42] i think there is a dot story already, just not published [07:42] i forgot you were a dot editor as well === niroxx [n=niroxx@achn-4db49195.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato_ [n=jucato@210.213.222.188] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:46] Riddell: last kdebase patch does not apply - http://librarian.launchpad.net/5601419/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-sparc.kdebase_4%3A3.5.5a.dfsg.1-1ubuntu14_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [09:52] oh fooey [09:52] well it applied when I wrote it [09:52] probably I forgot to unapply it === hunger [n=tobias@p54A72CA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === doelman [n=doelman@87.195.0.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@user-11219s1.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pascalFR [i=aSitt4UF@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-196-156.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubijtsa [n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubijtsa [n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-132-003.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ is now known as marseillai === yuriy [n=yuriy@209-94-138-57.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:02] hi. digikamimageplugins fails on ia64 and sparc Anyone knows what this source dependency conflict is about (ia64)? http://librarian.launchpad.net/5604396/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-sparc.digikamimageplugins_0.9.0-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [11:08] has it failed elsewhere? [11:09] Riddell: no, as I just installed it on i386 ;-) [11:11] then just let the ports buildd admins sort it out [11:14] I've been resizing&symlinking some Human icons so that they can be used in KDE more effectively (just for myself). What do you think - should I try to get those changes in the human-icon-theme package or should we leave Human for GNOME only ? [11:16] sure, talk to dholbach about it when he's back from holiday [11:20] and another thing - there's a /usr/share/wallpapers dir with wallpapers for KDE and there's a /usr/share/backgrounds dir with wallpapers for GNOME. Can we (somehow) make that one dir? [11:20] I've tried [11:21] they weren't very interested [11:21] Riddell: who? [11:23] the gnome dudes [11:24] upstream === shnee [n=CurtyD13@cpe-24-26-131-198.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:24] hello shnee [11:24] of course for KDE 4 I could just change KDE to use backgrounds/ [11:26] Riddell: hmm, I wonder why ... I don't see any disadvantages of using one directory === praetor [n=praetor@211.27.210.13] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:27] well I was also trying to standardise the meta data, which is less important === hunger [n=tobias@p54A72CA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-70-78.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel