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| hunger | during early boot (feisty) I get messages about PHYSDEV getting removed in future kernels. Any idea what might case that? Looks like madwifi, but that is not part of my initrd! | 01:03 |
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| hunger | What can I do to get enough data for a decent bugreport? | 01:04 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 03:11 |
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| evand | Anyone know who I'd have to talk to about getting the address my @ubuntu.com forward points to changed? | 05:00 |
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| nekohayo | is there a channel for ubuntu's security updates? | 05:01 |
| Nafallo | evand: change the email on launchpad. | 05:01 |
| nekohayo | I think the 4 dbus updates for edgy break gnome's settings daemon | 05:01 |
| Nafallo | nekohayo: don't think so. this one maybe? :-) | 05:01 |
| crimsun | nekohayo: the security team is active in this channel during EU business hours (and sometimes other) | 05:02 |
| nekohayo | hmm so this place is correct for checking with them if those updates break stuff indeed? | 05:03 |
| evand | Nafallo, I did, it still goes to the original email account I set my launchpad account up with. | 05:03 |
| Nafallo | evand: ask #launchpad if they can trigger an update or something :-) | 05:03 |
| Nafallo | evand: IIRC a cronjob does that :-P | 05:04 |
| evand | Nafallo, will do, thanks | 05:04 |
| Nafallo | np | 05:04 |
| somerville32 | nekohayo, Please file a bug | 05:05 |
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| lifeless | I'm off for the weekend, have fun! | 06:26 |
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| fabbione | morning | 06:51 |
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| evand | morning | 07:41 |
| somerville32 | @now atlantic | 07:43 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in Canada/Atlantic: January 05 2007, 02:43:56 - Next meeting: LoCo Team in 4 days | 07:43 |
| somerville32 | Morning :) | 07:44 |
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| Amaranth | sorry, setting something up | 08:19 |
| somerville32 | It's ok Amaranth | 08:24 |
| somerville32 | I ignored you a long time ago | 08:24 |
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| Amaranth | heh | 08:24 |
| === somerville32 hugs Amaranth. | ||
| Amaranth | ironically enough i was setting up an irc proxy so i don't disconnect anymore :) | 08:25 |
| Amaranth | damn server is RHEL3 though | 08:25 |
| Amaranth | couldn't use ssl, glib, etc | 08:25 |
| Fujitsu | Why do you have a RHEL3 server!? | 08:26 |
| Fujitsu | (although I do administer one, the company that makes the hospital-management software mandates it :-/) | 08:26 |
| Amaranth | Fujitsu: not mine :) | 08:27 |
| Fujitsu | Good :) | 08:27 |
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| Fujitsu | :O | 08:27 |
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| === Hobbsee huggles Mithrandir | ||
| Hobbsee | heya :) | 08:31 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: why are you bouncing? | 08:31 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: general happiness. | 08:31 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: :D | 08:32 |
| Mithrandir | also, simira and I have been married for five months today, which is nice. | 08:32 |
| Hobbsee | yay :D | 08:34 |
| === Hobbsee thought it was longer | ||
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| Mithrandir | _and_ I managed to get ssh auth with my smart card working yesterday. | 08:35 |
| Lathiat | oh nice | 08:36 |
| Lathiat | i've got a smartcard reader in my laptop, wonder if theres a dirver for it | 08:36 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 08:38 |
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| Mithrandir | now I just need to get a pile of smart card readers so I don't have to lug that or my laptop around. | 08:41 |
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| Mithrandir | doko: did you see my initial analysis of the ooo-l10n uninstallability problem? | 08:50 |
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| doko | Mithrandir: fixed in 2.1-1ubuntu4 | 08:53 |
| Mithrandir | doko: great. Now I just wonder why ooo-help and ooo-l10n still shows up on on p.u.c/~cjwatson/testing/feisty_probs.html .. | 08:55 |
| doko | strange | 08:56 |
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| Mithrandir | fabbione: you're aware that your glibc upload FTBFS? | 08:59 |
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| fabbione | Mithrandir: yes. we are discussing it in -toolchain | 09:23 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 09:24 |
| mvo | hey pitti! | 09:24 |
| === pitti hugs mvo | ||
| fabbione | hi pitti | 09:25 |
| pitti | O sole mio, Padre! | 09:26 |
| fabbione | ahahha | 09:26 |
| fabbione | Javul her general | 09:26 |
| psusi | hey fabio, martin | 09:28 |
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| Fujitsu | Has there been any standard set for security updates to the same version of a package in multiple releases? | 10:23 |
| Fujitsu | (ie. what versioning should I use?) | 10:23 |
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| fabbione | fabbione@gordian:~$ gthumb | 10:28 |
| fabbione | end from FAM server connection | 10:28 |
| fabbione | end from FAM server connection | 10:28 |
| fabbione | is inotify broken again? | 10:28 |
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| Amaranth | i hope not, gnome without inotify eats CPU like crazy | 10:40 |
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| fabbione | Amaranth: it looks like is broken somehow.. | 10:47 |
| fabbione | at least | 10:47 |
| Amaranth | seems to work here but now i'm afraid to reboot | 10:49 |
| Amaranth | i'm using the -3 kernel | 10:49 |
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| Mithrandir | doko: any idea why ooo ftbfs on amd64? http://librarian.launchpad.net/5511527/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-amd64.openoffice.org_2.1-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 10:56 |
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| doko | ohh crap, no idea ... will have to look | 10:58 |
| Mithrandir | thanks | 10:58 |
| Mithrandir | that should fix the uninstallability problems as well, it's amd64 only. | 10:58 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: can you tell me if my upload of texfam worked? | 10:58 |
| Adri2000 | I guess this package https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dvd-slideshow comes from debian multimedia, right? | 11:00 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: hmm, can't see it. When did you upload it? | 11:01 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: abotu 5 min ago, then 2 min.. | 11:01 |
| Mithrandir | it's there at least. | 11:02 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: oh wait, reject it anyway please | 11:02 |
| === Hobbsee is an idiot | ||
| === Hobbsee tells self to PUT *DOWN* the crack pipe... | ||
| Mithrandir | I'm unsure how I reject stuff out of incoming.. let's see. | 11:03 |
| === mneptok extends a palm towards Hobbsee | ||
| doko | Mithrandir: do you see a binutils upload from today? | 11:03 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: or i'll reupload with the same version, presumably | 11:03 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: reupload with a higher version rather. It's not like we're running out of integers just yet. | 11:04 |
| Mithrandir | doko: yes. | 11:04 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 11:04 |
| Hobbsee | OK | 11:04 |
| Fujitsu | doko: (re. azureus) I thought my meaning of `fixes' in the changelog was fairly clear, but apparently not. It was referring to jdong's fixes; he hadn't incremented the upstream version number. | 11:04 |
| doko | Fujitsu: ok | 11:05 |
| pitti | Fujitsu: yes, there is | 11:05 |
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| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: done :) | 11:05 |
| pitti | Fujitsu: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityUpdateProcedures | 11:05 |
| === Hobbsee hands the crack pipe to mneptok | ||
| === pitti reboots to 2.6.20, brb | ||
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| Adri2000 | can I request a sync from debian multimedia? | 11:11 |
| Hobbsee | Adri2000: i believe so | 11:12 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: do you know if accepted mails are occuring, or has soyuz broke with that too? | 11:12 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: afaik, they work. | 11:13 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, I got one a couple of hours back. | 11:13 |
| Mithrandir | Adri2000: you can request a sync from anything with a Sources file. | 11:13 |
| Hobbsee | hrm. i appear to have missed 2. | 11:13 |
| Adri2000 | ok | 11:13 |
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| doko | Mithrandir: is main already frozen, or is mail to -changes not working? | 11:13 |
| Mithrandir | doko: we're not frozen, so something funky is up, I think. | 11:14 |
| fabbione | oh great | 11:14 |
| Fujitsu | Has soyuz done its nice little hangy-thing again? | 11:14 |
| fabbione | that's exactly what i need today | 11:14 |
| fabbione | extra fuzz | 11:14 |
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| Mithrandir | Fujitsu: looks like there's something weird on drescher, I've asked a sysadmin to investigate. | 11:16 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: weird, OK. either my filter is filtering them (veyr unlikely, it hasnt before), or i'm not getting sent them | 11:16 |
| Fujitsu | I wonder if it's the same issue as last time... (ie. all uploads hanging on an INSERT) | 11:17 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: we have hanging sendmail processes from the last hour or so of uploads, so that might be why. | 11:17 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, we've just established that soyuz is stuffed, I believe. | 11:17 |
| Fujitsu | Mithrandir: sounds like fun. | 11:17 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: right. | 11:18 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: haha, we knew that. | 11:18 |
| Mithrandir | so, "we're working on it", sorry I don't know more than that so I can't tell you more than that either. :-P | 11:18 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 11:19 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: but you're supposed to know everything! | 11:19 |
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| === mneptok flips a penny at Hobbsee | ||
| mneptok | catch! | 11:38 |
| === Hobbsee runs away from it | ||
| davmor2 | query on gossip-telephany: I want to be able to use gossip in place of gaim but I can't use jabber to log onto google talk like I can with gaim should I report it as a bug or am I just not inputting the log in data correctly? | 11:38 |
| Hobbsee | mneptok: i dont deal in pennies :P | 11:39 |
| Robot101 | davmor2: possibly not inputting the data correctly | 11:39 |
| Robot101 | davmor2: let me read off how my settings look... server talk.google.com, port 5223, use encryption? | 11:40 |
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| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: woot! got the accepted mail, just late | 11:42 |
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| mneptok | Hobbsee: yeah, not anymore you don't ;) | 11:46 |
| Hobbsee | mneptok: we dont have pennies here anyway :P | 11:47 |
| Fujitsu | Why did I get 7 of the same apport acceptance mail>? | 11:47 |
| Fujitsu | Ooh, and they're still coming. | 11:47 |
| Hobbsee | there was stuff at the bottom | 11:47 |
| Fujitsu | And yet more... | 11:49 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: Nice changelog entry for texfam 1.2.1-9ubuntu2 :P | 11:51 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: haha, yeah | 11:52 |
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| Seveas | pitti, having fun uploading apport? :) | 11:58 |
| pitti | Seveas: much so :) | 11:58 |
| pitti | Seveas: oh, argh, I see what you mean; /me curses at Soyuz | 12:00 |
| Seveas | hehe | 12:00 |
| Fujitsu | I think I managed to get 15 of them... | 12:01 |
| pitti | that's what I got, too | 12:01 |
| Fujitsu | 17, in fact. | 12:01 |
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| Seveas | 17 here as well | 12:01 |
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| Mithrandir | pitti: apport is only 17/21 entries in the accepted queue. :-P | 12:02 |
| Fujitsu | The 17 are spread over ~4 minutes as well, which is a little odd. | 12:02 |
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| Mithrandir | no, they're spread over more than an hour | 12:03 |
| pitti | I swear I only uploaded it exactly once | 12:03 |
| Seveas | lies :) | 12:04 |
| Fujitsu | Mithrandir, the emails are only over 4 minutes. | 12:04 |
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| cjwatson | Riddell: please go ahead and commit, but preferably one commit per change rather than one commit for the several unrelated changes in that diff | 12:11 |
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| cjwatson | Riddell: unfortunately I made several UI changes to the advanced dialog this morning before seeing your patch, and I have no idea how to resolve the conflict | 12:12 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: I guess you need to throw away your changes and do whatever you did to it again | 12:12 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: I wish I knew how to stop Designer creating the wrong kind of layout widgets | 12:12 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: in general I'm happy with you committing directly to ubiquity trunk on bazaar.launchpad.net, or creating a branch there if the changes are large; much easier than passing diffs around | 12:13 |
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| Adri2000 | archive admins: libept 0.4.7ubuntu2 is built since wednesday but there is still no .debs at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libe/libept/ | 12:24 |
| Adri2000 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libept/0.4.7ubuntu2 | 12:24 |
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| Mithrandir | Adri2000: that is correct, it's in NEW. | 12:26 |
| Adri2000 | ahhh, ok | 12:27 |
| Mithrandir | accepted now | 12:28 |
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| Adri2000 | thanks | 12:28 |
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| bSON | hi | 12:56 |
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| bSON | i have problems adding any other items than Preferences and Administration to the System menu; this may be needed if users want to havea link the new control center shell in gnome 2.17 there. the source of the problem probably is a patch in Ubuntu, "05_submenus.patch", whose purpose is to swap the Preferences and the Adminstration menus. could this source patch be replaced by a patch for settings.menu? the same effect can easily be acc | 01:15 |
| Chipzz | bSON: your line was truncated | 01:19 |
| Chipzz | a patch for settings.menu? the same effect can easily be acc | 01:19 |
| bSON | Chippz: ... accomplished with the <Layout> tag of the freedesktop menu specification, which is supported by gnome | 01:20 |
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| cjwatson | Mithrandir: any progress with bug 73955? | 01:32 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 73955 in console-setup "Clobbered X screen state during installation" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73955 | 01:32 |
| bSON | Chippz: is there anybody I can ask regarding this issue? | 01:35 |
| bSON | Chipzz i meant.. | 01:35 |
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| cjwatson | bSON: seb128, when he gets back from holiday next week | 01:38 |
| bSON | cjwatson: ok, thanks | 01:38 |
| Mithrandir | cjwatson: gnr, I forgot to look at it today, sorry. :-/ | 01:42 |
| Mithrandir | cjwatson: how is ubiquity/d-i looking for herd 2? | 01:42 |
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| cjwatson | Mithrandir: I don't know of major issues other than 73955, although I haven't looked much at d-i | 01:44 |
| Mithrandir | cjwatson: ok, sounds good. | 01:44 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: so next week is Hurd 2 | 01:46 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: we will start testing the new link to certification... | 01:46 |
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| Mithrandir | you shouldn't be able to. | 01:51 |
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| Riddell | cjwatson: tidied up advanced dialogue committed | 02:07 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: ta | 02:09 |
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| ogra | do we plan to get mbr to main or do we drop lilo to universe ? | 03:31 |
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| ogra | doko, whats up with schooltool and schoolbell, do you think just updating the deps of python2.4-schoolbell to zope3 (>= 3.3) is enough ? | 03:42 |
| ogra | (its currently zope3 (<= 3.3)) | 03:43 |
| doko | ogra: no, requires port to zope3.3, not yet done by upstream | 03:43 |
| ogra | hmm, likely to hapen before hurd2 ? | 03:43 |
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| ogra | s/hurd/herd/ | 03:43 |
| doko | we ship fur hurd? ;-P | 03:43 |
| ogra | heh :) | 03:43 |
| ogra | for the herds | 03:44 |
| doko | unlikely for feisty, maybe ask upstream | 03:44 |
| ogra | ouch | 03:44 |
| ogra | that means we cant ship it at all ? do we have a fallback ? | 03:44 |
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| ogra | (older zope etc) | 03:44 |
| TeknoMatik | Hi all, i am beginer | 03:45 |
| jdong | doko: regarding Azureus repack, if you md5sum the two orig.tar.gz's you'll see that quite some PNG's are corrupt in the original packaging | 03:45 |
| jdong | doko: that was the cause for the tray icon not showing up | 03:46 |
| doko | jdong: yes, seen that | 03:46 |
| TeknoMatik | Please tell me, what i must know for join in development community? | 03:46 |
| jdong | ok, cool :) | 03:46 |
| doko | ogra: include zope3.2 into the schoolbell package and ship that one? | 03:46 |
| ogra | doko, the whole of 3.2 ? that sounds evil ... and lie a lot of work | 03:47 |
| ogra | *like | 03:47 |
| TeknoMatik | Please tell me, what i must know for join in development community? | 03:47 |
| ogra | TeknoMatik, go to #ubuntu-motu | 03:47 |
| TeknoMatik | ok, thank's | 03:48 |
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| davmor2 | sorry for lack of response got called away it was the 5223 that was wrong and why I couldn't log on thank to who ever pointed it out. | 03:53 |
| davmor2 | to gmail with gossip | 03:53 |
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| elmo | so, uhm, if you have to take stuff out of /etc/n/i to get n-m to love you, how is one meant to configure your network when X is broken, JOOI? | 04:09 |
| azeem | elmo: you edit /etc/n/i back :) | 04:09 |
| elmo | well, that's what I did, but seriously? | 04:10 |
| azeem | AFAIK, nobody's implemented CLI support for n-m yet | 04:10 |
| Nafallo | elmo: auto + dhcp works aswell :-) | 04:11 |
| Nafallo | makes n-m happy etc... ;-) | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | Nafallo: as long as /e/n/i is there... | 04:12 |
| Nafallo | Hobbsee: ehrm... is there cases when it isn't? | 04:12 |
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| Hobbsee | Nafallo: see elmo's first line, with it all commented out | 04:13 |
| Hobbsee | that being said, apparently NM loves me even with the lines in /e/n/i | 04:13 |
| elmo | Nafallo: I've never seen n-m work when the interface was in /etc/n/i and been told several times that that's how you get n-m to 'own' the interface *shrug* | 04:13 |
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| Hobbsee | elmo: depends what phase the moon is in, and on wind direction, i'm afraid... | 04:14 |
| Nafallo | lol | 04:14 |
| Nafallo | n-m is still not up for the job if you ask me :-) | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | on that note, it's bedtime - night all! | 04:14 |
| Nafallo | Hobbsee: gnight :-) | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | bah. it's better than running a manual wpasupplicant :P | 04:14 |
| Nafallo | Hobbsee: ifup ftw :-) | 04:15 |
| Nafallo | and $essid.sh ;-) | 04:15 |
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| ogra | hmm, why is ntp uninstallable ... i dont see a reason ... | 04:20 |
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| zul | hi | 04:29 |
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| ogra | fabbione, is it ok with you to drop ntp-server from ship/server-ship ? seems ntp now replaces it ... (at least according to the deps) | 04:44 |
| ogra | oh ntp-simple as well indeed | 04:45 |
| Nafallo | ogra: right. better to have real packages instead of transitional things :-). | 04:48 |
| ogra | well, there seems to be no transitional thing ... ntp just replaces everything ... but the seeds still want the old package names ... | 04:49 |
| Nafallo | oh. right. | 04:49 |
| Nafallo | ntp-simple is transitional though | 04:49 |
| ogra | well, why are we using bzr for the seeds if not for rollbackability ... (nice word :) ) | 04:50 |
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| Nafallo | hehe. indeed :-) | 04:50 |
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| itsme | hi | 05:07 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 05:18 |
| jdong | hey bddebian | 05:18 |
| bddebian | Hi jdong | 05:18 |
| Nafallo | hi bddebian :-) | 05:19 |
| bddebian | Gah :) | 05:19 |
| Nafallo | hehe | 05:19 |
| Nafallo | redundant "hi" ftw! :-) | 05:19 |
| bddebian | heh | 05:19 |
| jdong | is there a way to script a hi to everyone in a channel? | 05:20 |
| jdong | (kidding, please don't empower me with that kind of knowledge) | 05:21 |
| Nafallo | jdong: lol | 05:21 |
| === Nafallo wonders if someone want gajim backported :-P | ||
| jdong | Nafallo: out of curiousity, can we import a newer x264 snapshot than debian-marillat? | 05:21 |
| jdong | I'm interested in 20061216's threading improvements | 05:22 |
| jdong | requires a minor sed to the few packages that build against x264 though | 05:22 |
| jdong | Nafallo: and I'm looking at gajim right now, poke me in a day if I get forgetful | 05:24 |
| Nafallo | jdong: nice. thanks :-) | 05:24 |
| Nafallo | jdong: I apt-get source x264 :-) | 05:25 |
| jdong | heh :) | 05:25 |
| jdong | Nafallo: you're motu-media, right? | 05:25 |
| Nafallo | yepp. but I haven't touched this one before :-) | 05:25 |
| jdong | ah, ok | 05:25 |
| jdong | if I file a launchpad bug asking for a newer x264 snapshot than marillat, detailing the patch(es) necessary to build ffmpeg and friends... what's the chance of acceptance? | 05:26 |
| Nafallo | ah. noone has :-P | 05:26 |
| Nafallo | I will atleast look at it :-) | 05:26 |
| jdong | it seems like we've always just followed marillat, I'm not sure if it's taboo to be newer than it :D | 05:26 |
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| jdong | nope, still on 1210 :( | 05:27 |
| Nafallo | we have 0928 :-P | 05:28 |
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| jdong | Nafallo: I KNOW :) | 05:28 |
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| Nafallo | jdong: maybe it's easier to have him doing the work ;-) | 05:28 |
| jdong | Nafallo: I shall prepare some source packages | 05:29 |
| Nafallo | nice :-) | 05:29 |
| jdong | I notice that when all that's needed is a dput, it tends to happen better :) | 05:29 |
| Nafallo | indeed :-) | 05:30 |
| Nafallo | and a review and build... ;-) | 05:30 |
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| jdong | ok, heading out to restock my fridge now, will work on x264 goodness afterwards | 05:32 |
| Nafallo | nice :-) | 05:35 |
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| Riddell | cjwatson: are you able to look into what's happened to digikamimageplugins? uploads for it disappear | 06:07 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: roughly when was the last upload? | 06:07 |
| Riddell | cjwatson: about christmas | 06:08 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: http://librarian.launchpad.net/5548495/A5fthh1B20Azq01vNRec2PkDRqa.txt - it's not entirely clear what happened, but I think it's transient so I'll reprocess it | 06:09 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: ok, that worked | 06:10 |
| Riddell | cjwatson: great, thanks | 06:10 |
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| Riddell | cjwatson: fancy doing some promotion/demotion too? | 06:11 |
| Riddell | cjwatson: libopenobex1.0 and binaries needs demoted to universe with libopenobex and binaries promoted | 06:11 |
| ogra | mbr too so lilo is installable again ... i did the MIR for it already .... | 06:12 |
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| cjwatson | Riddell: libopenobex1.0 isn't on the schedule for demotion; can you hunt down what's still using it? | 06:13 |
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| Riddell | cjwatson: kdebluetooth and libbtctl will still be using it, until their version with the new libopenobex are compiled | 06:13 |
| cjwatson | ogra: not until the MIR's been reviewed and approved | 06:14 |
| Riddell | cjwatson: so just do the promotion and wait for the demotion if that's easier | 06:14 |
| ogra | well, it has to go in anyway ... but right, ets wait for the bureocracy to be done :) | 06:14 |
| ogra | *lets | 06:14 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: done | 06:15 |
| Riddell | ogra: MIRs seems like a perfectly worthwhile beurocracy | 06:15 |
| Riddell | ogra: but if you're poking pitti to do that MIR, poke him to do gsmlib for me too :) | 06:15 |
| cjwatson | we can set ogra and jbailey up in a deathmatch if everyone really wants :) | 06:15 |
| Riddell | thanks cjwatson | 06:16 |
| cjwatson | it's for the support team's sanity as much as anything else | 06:16 |
| ogra | Riddell, well, not for packages where debian introduced dependencies that are forced upon us anyway ... we could save te bytes to write one in that case imho | 06:16 |
| cjwatson | I disagree | 06:16 |
| Nafallo | cjwatson: sounds fun :-). might be a revenuestream as well as any ;-) | 06:16 |
| cjwatson | in some cases we would want to revert the new dependency instead | 06:16 |
| cjwatson | that's part of what the MIR review process is for | 06:17 |
| ogra | cjwatson, well, indeed ... but there are some cases where we couldnt do that without breaking everything ... indeed you cant predict which packages that applies to ... | 06:17 |
| cjwatson | ogra: that's what the review process is for | 06:18 |
| ogra | yeah, understood | 06:18 |
| cjwatson | and is why I said "in some cases". We aren't automatons | 06:18 |
| Riddell | cjwatson: could you also promote libept: libept-dev, it's the new name for the new version of libapt-front | 06:18 |
| ogra | if we were we would be called launchpad ;) | 06:18 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: is it descended from the same code, or a rewrite? | 06:19 |
| Riddell | cjwatson: it's the same coade | 06:19 |
| Riddell | code | 06:19 |
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| cjwatson | Riddell: ok, promoted | 06:20 |
| Riddell | thanks cjwatson | 06:20 |
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| keescook | doko: looks like we've got some OOo security backporting to do for the WMF vuln | 06:56 |
| doko | keescook: yeah ... please forward me your information, I think I have a patch for one of those | 06:57 |
| keescook | doko: all I've got so far are the posts to full-disclosure; I haven't gone digging yet. | 06:58 |
| doko | but I won't mind if you do want to get familiar with OOo =) | 06:58 |
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| Nafallo | haha | 06:58 |
| cjwatson | In Soviet Russia, Firefox gets familiar with YOU! | 07:01 |
| keescook | hehehe | 07:02 |
| Nafallo | :-= | 07:02 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 07:02 |
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| bluefoxicy | FUCK. | 08:24 |
| bluefoxicy | kernel panic. | 08:24 |
| bluefoxicy | and gnome decides that anything stored in gconf2 is suddenly nuked. | 08:25 |
| bluefoxicy | this is worse than the windows registry, this is like the fifth time this has happened. | 08:25 |
| zul | language | 08:26 |
| === bluefoxicy rm -rf /home/zul/.gconf* | ||
| LaserJock | bluefoxicy: still better to say to yourself then on IRC :-) | 08:27 |
| bluefoxicy | LaserJock: if I say it on IRC maybe someone will explain to me why it happens :| | 08:27 |
| Nafallo | bluefoxicy: try #ubuntu-desktop when people are back from holidays in that case ;-) | 08:28 |
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| bluefoxicy | argh | 08:33 |
| bluefoxicy | dpkg --configure -a causes it | 08:33 |
| bluefoxicy | while it's updating tcl or tk or something. | 08:33 |
| bluefoxicy | when it gets there the machine just dies. :| | 08:33 |
| bluefoxicy | part of my panel gets stretched across my entire screen, and then it just goes limp. magic sysrq does nothing | 08:34 |
| bluefoxicy | xchat-gnome prefs, gone. Rhythmbox prefs, gone (playlists in tact, they're in another directory). | 08:35 |
| LaserJock | bluefoxicy: this is on Feisty? | 08:36 |
| bluefoxicy | panel applets, all gone | 08:36 |
| bluefoxicy | yes. It's happened on dapper too, but very rarely | 08:36 |
| bluefoxicy | and not triggered the same way | 08:36 |
| LaserJock | odd, good reason to have backups of ~/ :/ | 08:36 |
| bluefoxicy | dpkg dying trying to configure... whatever's in the queue right now (it died while synaptic was running the first time), on 2.6.20 (latest) generic or lowlatency (tried both) | 08:37 |
| bluefoxicy | dapper/edgy had issues where I crashed it other ways and once or twice I lost anything stored in gconf2 | 08:37 |
| Nafallo | bluefoxicy: /+addbug :-) | 08:37 |
| bluefoxicy | Nafallo: /+addpissedoff is more like it :| this is hella annoying. | 08:38 |
| bluefoxicy | it's one thing to lose config for your panel | 08:38 |
| bluefoxicy | but for every gnome-integrated application? | 08:38 |
| Nafallo | bluefoxicy: hmm, /+filebug then? :-) | 08:39 |
| bluefoxicy | heh | 08:39 |
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| ernstp | I searched for debian on ubuntu wiki and couldn't find anything about how to suggest an import from debian to ubuntu | 08:44 |
| ernstp | Should be something with motu perhaps? | 08:44 |
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| bluefoxicy | filed. | 08:48 |
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| cjwatson | ernstp: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources#syncs | 09:18 |
| cjwatson | ernstp: if you aren't in the relevant development team you should ask somebody who is to help, so yes #ubuntu-motu | 09:18 |
| cjwatson | in general we only accept sync requests from people who would ordinarily have been able to make the same upload by handd | 09:19 |
| cjwatson | hand | 09:19 |
| cjwatson | Mithrandir: please give back libcairo after this publisher run | 09:21 |
| Mithrandir | cjwatson: ack. | 09:21 |
| cjwatson | unfortunate sync timing, that; it broke the ubiquity build as well | 09:21 |
| cjwatson | (sync> libcairo) | 09:21 |
| LaserJock | cjwatson: I'm looking into ernstp's sync requests | 09:22 |
| cjwatson | thanks | 09:22 |
| LaserJock | cjwatson: one of the packages, linuxdcpp, seems to have been in Debian for over a year. He thought that it was perhaps in Dapper but removed | 09:22 |
| LaserJock | cjwatson: is there a way you can check if it *was* in Ubuntu at some point? | 09:22 |
| cypher1 | LaserJock, will packages.ubuntu.com help | 09:23 |
| LaserJock | cypher1: indeed it is | 09:24 |
| cypher1 | LaserJock, :) | 09:24 |
| LaserJock | well, stink. packages.ubuntu.com has it in dapper, edgy, and fiesty | 09:25 |
| LaserJock | ok, well that looks like a bad bug | 09:26 |
| LaserJock | it's in Ubuntu | 09:26 |
| ernstp | LaserJock: it looks like it's in but it's not? | 09:26 |
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| ogra | its ftbfs apparently | 09:27 |
| ogra | or waiting for a dep or something ... sources are there but no binary | 09:28 |
| ernstp | LaserJock: oh right, it needs a version sync with debian then perhaps? | 09:28 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ apt-cache madison linuxdcpp | 09:28 |
| ogra | linuxdcpp | 0.0.1.cvs20061208-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Sources | 09:28 |
| ogra | whats in debian ... cvs2006120 doesnt seem to old | 09:28 |
| Nafallo | oh | 09:29 |
| Nafallo | I can confirm | 09:29 |
| ogra | err cvs20061208 | 09:29 |
| Nafallo | the damn thing uses scones :-) | 09:29 |
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| ernstp | Checking for pkg-config... no | 09:32 |
| ernstp | pkg-config not found. | 09:32 |
| ernstp | so it's deps are wrong.. | 09:33 |
| LaserJock | ernstp: can you update the bug report with what you've found? | 09:35 |
| ernstp | LaserJock: done | 09:40 |
| LaserJock | ernstp: thanks | 09:40 |
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| kylem | mmm scones. | 09:42 |
| doko | Mithrandir: please could you requeue openoffice.org on amd64? | 09:49 |
| Nafallo | Mithrandir: and please retry linuxdcpp. built fine in my pbuilder just now. | 09:52 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 09:52 |
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| hunger | Any ETA for the restricted modules matching the new linux-image? | 09:59 |
| LaserJock | hehe, "when it builds" maybe? | 10:00 |
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| gnomefreak | LaserJock: l-r-m-generic is built just waiting for l-r-m-kernel i bellive along with the nvidia package for that l-r-m and stuff like that | 10:25 |
| LaserJock | mhm | 10:25 |
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| LaserJock | gnomefreak: np ;-) | 10:27 |
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| cjwatson | hunger: I accepted them three quarters of an hour or so before you asked that | 10:50 |
| cjwatson | hunger: so they should be visible now | 10:50 |
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| KinGBin | slomo: do you have a sec to help me compile mpeg4ip? | 10:52 |
| mdke | cjwatson: can you have a look at my sru bug next week some time maybe? I'll dig out the bug number | 10:52 |
| cjwatson | mdke: yes | 10:52 |
| cjwatson | can't now, though | 10:53 |
| mdke | well, it's 10 o clock on a friday night | 10:53 |
| mdke | I wouldn't have expected now | 10:53 |
| mdke | cjwatson: it's bug 74555, for your reference | 10:54 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 74555 in ubuntu-docs "Stable release update" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74555 | 10:54 |
| cjwatson | mdke: please just subscribe ubuntu-sru and assign to nobody - if you assign to ubuntu-sru it doesn't show up in +subscribedbugs for us | 10:56 |
| cjwatson | (or at least it didn't use to - which is/was a Malone bug I guess) | 10:57 |
| cjwatson | shouldn't be assigned to us anyway since we're just approving not implementing | 10:57 |
| mdke | cjwatson: I guess it would be in +assignedbugs :) My bad, I must have misread the page | 10:57 |
| cjwatson | yeah, it would be in +assignedbugs but I don't check that | 10:57 |
| cjwatson | well, not usually | 10:57 |
| mdke | assigned bugs is the default on the bugs page | 10:58 |
| mdke | at least for people | 10:58 |
| mdke | maybe it's different for groups | 10:58 |
| === mdke changes the bug, anyhow | ||
| cjwatson | might be the default but it's not useful for ubuntu-sru generally and so is not my finger macro | 10:58 |
| cjwatson | I don't navigate to that page, I type in the url | 10:58 |
| cjwatson | same as for ubuntu-archive | 10:59 |
| mdke | I didn't mean to challenge what you said, I was going to change the bug immediately | 10:59 |
| === cjwatson nods | ||
| cjwatson | just explaining why the default on the bugs page isn't relevant :) | 10:59 |
| cjwatson | anyway, bedtime | 10:59 |
| mdke | good night | 11:00 |
| Nafallo | !seen jono | 11:00 |
| Nafallo | hmm | 11:01 |
| KinGBin | I know this isn't the right channel so dont' blast me, but... I'm trying to compile faac without the mp4 support, I can't find any switches to use to have it compile without mp4 support, anybody know? I'm using the latest faac pulled from the repository | 11:01 |
| hunger | cjwatson: Not visible yet:-( | 11:09 |
| LaserJock | hunger: I got it | 11:11 |
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| Lure | hunger: maybe your mirror is not up-to-date yet - I got it too | 11:12 |
| hunger | Ah... now it is visible for me as well! | 11:13 |
| _ion | It would be nice if mirrors communicated between each other using a P2P protocol, using which new stuff would be *pushed* to mirrors. Mirrors (all of them) would have the new stuff almost immediately, and the bandwidth used to synchronize mirrors would be shared evenly between all of them. | 11:16 |
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| doko | Mithrandir: please requeue OOo on powerpc and sparc as well | 11:21 |
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| Mithrandir | doko: ooo given-back | 11:32 |
| Mithrandir | Nafallo: linuxdcpp given-back | 11:32 |
| _ion | "Aha, console-setup was configured". Ctrl-Alt-F1, Alt-F7. I'm getting used to the screen getting corrupted. ;-) | 11:33 |
| Nafallo | Mithrandir: thanks mate :-) | 11:33 |
| LaserJock | we'll see if that works | 11:33 |
| Nafallo | LaserJock: since it worked locally it should. otherwise we can set infinity on it again ;-) | 11:34 |
| Mithrandir | cjwatson: libcairo given-back on sparc and ia64; built fine otherwise. | 11:34 |
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| LaserJock | Nafallo: yeah, I just have my doubts since it was tried at least 2-3 times and failed | 11:37 |
| Nafallo | LaserJock: we'll see :-) | 11:38 |
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| hunger | wsw3ma | 11:50 |
| hunger | sorry... wrong window:-( | 11:51 |
| Nafallo | lol | 11:51 |
| Nafallo | no shit :-P | 11:51 |
| hunger | and "too many fingers on keyboard error". | 11:51 |
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| _ion | How can there be too many fingers on a keyboard? Your friend is trying to type at the same time? | 11:52 |
| hunger | Nah... eagle typing... circling over the keyboard and then suddenly striking. | 11:53 |
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| mdke | does anyone know if the desktop cd still has WinFOSS on it? | 12:02 |
| mdke | I haven't had a windows system for a while | 12:02 |
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