[01:03] <hunger> during early boot (feisty) I get messages about PHYSDEV getting removed in future kernels. Any idea what might case that? Looks like madwifi, but that is not part of my initrd!
[01:04] <hunger> What can I do to get enough data for a decent bugreport?
[03:11] <bddebian> Heya
[05:00] <evand> Anyone know who I'd have to talk to about getting the address my @ubuntu.com forward points to changed?
[05:01] <nekohayo> is there a channel for ubuntu's security updates?
[05:01] <Nafallo> evand: change the email on launchpad.
[05:01] <nekohayo> I think the 4 dbus updates for edgy break gnome's settings daemon
[05:01] <Nafallo> nekohayo: don't think so. this one maybe? :-)
[05:02] <crimsun> nekohayo: the security team is active in this channel during EU business hours (and sometimes other)
[05:03] <nekohayo> hmm so this place is correct for checking with them if those updates break stuff indeed?
[05:03] <evand> Nafallo, I did, it still goes to the original email account I set my launchpad account up with.
[05:03] <Nafallo> evand: ask #launchpad if they can trigger an update or something :-)
[05:04] <Nafallo> evand: IIRC a cronjob does that :-P
[05:04] <evand> Nafallo, will do, thanks
[05:04] <Nafallo> np
[05:05] <somerville32> nekohayo, Please file a bug
[06:26] <lifeless> I'm off for the weekend, have fun!
[06:51] <fabbione> morning
[07:41] <evand> morning
[07:43] <somerville32> @now atlantic
[07:43] <Ubugtu> Current time in Canada/Atlantic: January 05 2007, 02:43:56 - Next meeting: LoCo Team in 4 days
[07:44] <somerville32> Morning :)
[08:19] <Amaranth> sorry, setting something up
[08:24] <somerville32> It's ok Amaranth
[08:24] <somerville32> I ignored you a long time ago
[08:24] <Amaranth> heh
[08:25] <Amaranth> ironically enough i was setting up an irc proxy so i don't disconnect anymore :)
[08:25] <Amaranth> damn server is RHEL3 though
[08:25] <Amaranth> couldn't use ssl, glib, etc
[08:26] <Fujitsu> Why do you have a RHEL3 server!?
[08:26] <Fujitsu> (although I do administer one, the company that makes the hospital-management software mandates it :-/)
[08:27] <Amaranth> Fujitsu: not mine :)
[08:27] <Fujitsu> Good :)
[08:27] <Fujitsu> :O
[08:31] <Hobbsee> heya :)
[08:31] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: why are you bouncing?
[08:31] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: general happiness.
[08:32] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: :D
[08:32] <Mithrandir> also, simira and I have been married for five months today, which is nice.
[08:34] <Hobbsee> yay :D
[08:35] <Mithrandir> _and_ I managed to get ssh auth with my smart card working yesterday.
[08:36] <Lathiat> oh nice
[08:36] <Lathiat> i've got a smartcard reader in my laptop, wonder if theres a dirver for it
[08:38] <Hobbsee> :)
[08:41] <Mithrandir> now I just need to get a pile of smart card readers so I don't have to lug that or my laptop around.
[08:50] <Mithrandir> doko: did you see my initial analysis of the ooo-l10n uninstallability problem?
[08:53] <doko> Mithrandir: fixed in 2.1-1ubuntu4
[08:55] <Mithrandir> doko: great.  Now I just wonder why ooo-help and ooo-l10n still shows up on on p.u.c/~cjwatson/testing/feisty_probs.html ..
[08:56] <doko> strange
[08:59] <Mithrandir> fabbione: you're aware that your glibc upload FTBFS?
[09:23] <fabbione> Mithrandir: yes. we are discussing it in -toolchain
[09:24] <pitti> Good morning
[09:24] <mvo> hey pitti!
[09:25] <fabbione> hi pitti
[09:26] <pitti> O sole mio, Padre!
[09:26] <fabbione> ahahha
[09:26] <fabbione> Javul her general
[09:28] <psusi> hey fabio, martin
[10:23] <Fujitsu> Has there been any standard set for security updates to the same version of a package in multiple releases?
[10:23] <Fujitsu> (ie. what versioning should I use?)
[10:28] <fabbione> fabbione@gordian:~$ gthumb
[10:28] <fabbione> end from FAM server connection
[10:28] <fabbione> end from FAM server connection
[10:28] <fabbione> is inotify broken again?
[10:40] <Amaranth> i hope not, gnome without inotify eats CPU like crazy
[10:47] <fabbione> Amaranth: it looks like is broken somehow..
[10:47] <fabbione> at least 
[10:49] <Amaranth> seems to work here but now i'm afraid to reboot
[10:49] <Amaranth> i'm using the -3 kernel
[10:56] <Mithrandir> doko: any idea why ooo ftbfs on amd64?  http://librarian.launchpad.net/5511527/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-amd64.openoffice.org_2.1-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[10:58] <doko> ohh crap, no idea ... will have to look
[10:58] <Mithrandir> thanks
[10:58] <Mithrandir> that should fix the uninstallability problems as well, it's amd64 only.
[10:58] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: can you tell me if my upload of texfam worked?
[11:00] <Adri2000> I guess this package https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dvd-slideshow comes from debian multimedia, right?
[11:01] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: hmm, can't see it.  When did you upload it?
[11:01] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: abotu 5 min ago, then 2 min..
[11:02] <Mithrandir> it's there at least.
[11:02] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: oh wait, reject it anyway please
[11:03] <Mithrandir> I'm unsure how I reject stuff out of incoming.. let's see.
[11:03] <doko> Mithrandir: do you see a binutils upload from today?
[11:03] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: or i'll reupload with the same version, presumably
[11:04] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: reupload with a higher version rather.  It's not like we're running out of integers just yet.
[11:04] <Mithrandir> doko: yes.
[11:04] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:04] <Hobbsee> OK
[11:04] <Fujitsu> doko: (re. azureus) I thought my meaning of `fixes' in the changelog was fairly clear, but apparently not. It was referring to jdong's fixes; he hadn't incremented the upstream version number.
[11:05] <doko> Fujitsu: ok
[11:05] <pitti> Fujitsu: yes, there is
[11:05] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: done :)
[11:05] <pitti> Fujitsu: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityUpdateProcedures
[11:11] <Adri2000> can I request a sync from debian multimedia?
[11:12] <Hobbsee> Adri2000: i believe so
[11:12] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: do you know if accepted mails are occuring, or has soyuz broke with that too?
[11:13] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: afaik, they work.
[11:13] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee, I got one a couple of hours back.
[11:13] <Mithrandir> Adri2000: you can request a sync from anything with a Sources file.
[11:13] <Hobbsee> hrm.  i appear to have missed 2.
[11:13] <Adri2000> ok
[11:13] <doko> Mithrandir: is main already frozen, or is mail to -changes not working?
[11:14] <Mithrandir> doko: we're not frozen, so something funky is up, I think.
[11:14] <fabbione> oh great
[11:14] <Fujitsu> Has soyuz done its nice little hangy-thing again?
[11:14] <fabbione> that's exactly what i need today
[11:14] <fabbione> extra fuzz 
[11:16] <Mithrandir> Fujitsu: looks like there's something weird on drescher, I've asked a sysadmin to investigate.
[11:16] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: weird, OK.  either my filter is filtering them (veyr unlikely, it hasnt before), or i'm not getting sent them
[11:17] <Fujitsu> I wonder if it's the same issue as last time... (ie. all uploads hanging on an INSERT)
[11:17] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: we have hanging sendmail processes from the last hour or so of uploads, so that might be why.
[11:17] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee, we've just established that soyuz is stuffed, I believe.
[11:17] <Fujitsu> Mithrandir: sounds like fun.
[11:18] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: right.
[11:18] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: haha, we knew that.  
[11:18] <Mithrandir> so, "we're working on it", sorry I don't know more than that so I can't tell you more than that either. :-P
[11:19] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:19] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: but you're supposed to know everything!
[11:38] <mneptok> catch!
[11:38] <davmor2> query on gossip-telephany:  I want to be able to use gossip in place of gaim but I can't use jabber to log onto google talk like I can with gaim should I report it as a bug or am I just not inputting the log in data correctly?
[11:39] <Hobbsee> mneptok: i dont deal in pennies :P
[11:39] <Robot101> davmor2: possibly not inputting the data correctly
[11:40] <Robot101> davmor2: let me read off how my settings look... server talk.google.com, port 5223, use encryption?
[11:42] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: woot!  got the accepted mail, just late
[11:46] <mneptok> Hobbsee: yeah, not anymore you don't ;)
[11:47] <Hobbsee> mneptok: we dont have pennies here anyway :P
[11:47] <Fujitsu> Why did I get 7 of the same apport acceptance mail>?
[11:47] <Fujitsu> Ooh, and they're still coming.
[11:47] <Hobbsee> there was stuff at the bottom
[11:49] <Fujitsu> And yet more...
[11:51] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: Nice changelog entry for texfam 1.2.1-9ubuntu2 :P
[11:52] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: haha, yeah
[11:58] <Seveas> pitti, having fun uploading apport? :)
[11:58] <pitti> Seveas: much so :)
[12:00] <pitti> Seveas: oh, argh, I see what you mean; /me curses at Soyuz
[12:00] <Seveas> hehe
[12:01] <Fujitsu> I think I managed to get 15 of them...
[12:01] <pitti> that's what I got, too
[12:01] <Fujitsu> 17, in fact.
[12:01] <Seveas> 17 here as well
[12:02] <Mithrandir> pitti: apport is only 17/21 entries in the accepted queue. :-P
[12:02] <Fujitsu> The 17 are spread over ~4 minutes as well, which is a little odd.
[12:03] <Mithrandir> no, they're spread over more than an hour
[12:03] <pitti> I swear I only uploaded it exactly once
[12:04] <Seveas> lies :)
[12:04] <Fujitsu> Mithrandir, the emails are only over 4 minutes.
[12:11] <cjwatson> Riddell: please go ahead and commit, but preferably one commit per change rather than one commit for the several unrelated changes in that diff
[12:12] <cjwatson> Riddell: unfortunately I made several UI changes to the advanced dialog this morning before seeing your patch, and I have no idea how to resolve the conflict
[12:12] <cjwatson> Riddell: I guess you need to throw away your changes and do whatever you did to it again
[12:12] <cjwatson> Riddell: I wish I knew how to stop Designer creating the wrong kind of layout widgets
[12:13] <cjwatson> Riddell: in general I'm happy with you committing directly to ubiquity trunk on bazaar.launchpad.net, or creating a branch there if the changes are large; much easier than passing diffs around
[12:24] <Adri2000> archive admins: libept 0.4.7ubuntu2 is built since wednesday but there is still no .debs at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libe/libept/
[12:24] <Adri2000> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libept/0.4.7ubuntu2
[12:26] <Mithrandir> Adri2000: that is correct, it's in NEW.
[12:27] <Adri2000> ahhh, ok
[12:28] <Mithrandir> accepted now
[12:28] <Adri2000> thanks
[12:56] <bSON> hi
[01:15] <bSON> i have problems adding any other items than Preferences and Administration to the System menu; this may be needed if users want to havea link the new control center shell in gnome 2.17 there. the source of the problem probably is a patch in Ubuntu, "05_submenus.patch", whose purpose is to swap the Preferences and the Adminstration menus. could this source patch be replaced by a patch for settings.menu? the same effect can easily be acc
[01:19] <Chipzz> bSON: your line was truncated
[01:19] <Chipzz>               a patch for settings.menu? the same effect can easily be acc
[01:20] <bSON> Chippz: ... accomplished with the <Layout> tag of the freedesktop menu specification, which is supported by gnome
[01:32] <cjwatson> Mithrandir: any progress with bug 73955?
[01:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 73955 in console-setup "Clobbered X screen state during installation" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/73955
[01:35] <bSON> Chippz: is there anybody I can ask regarding this issue?
[01:35] <bSON> Chipzz i meant..
[01:38] <cjwatson> bSON: seb128, when he gets back from holiday next week
[01:38] <bSON> cjwatson: ok, thanks
[01:42] <Mithrandir> cjwatson: gnr, I forgot to look at it today, sorry. :-/
[01:42] <Mithrandir> cjwatson: how is ubiquity/d-i looking for herd 2?
[01:44] <cjwatson> Mithrandir: I don't know of major issues other than 73955, although I haven't looked much at d-i
[01:44] <Mithrandir> cjwatson: ok, sounds good.
[01:46] <fabbione> Mithrandir: so next week is Hurd 2
[01:46] <fabbione> Mithrandir: we will start testing the new link to certification...
[01:51] <Mithrandir> you shouldn't be able to.
[02:07] <Riddell> cjwatson: tidied up advanced dialogue committed
[02:09] <cjwatson> Riddell: ta
[03:31] <ogra> do we plan to get mbr to main or do we drop lilo to universe ? 
[03:42] <ogra> doko, whats up with schooltool and schoolbell, do you think just updating the deps of python2.4-schoolbell to zope3 (>= 3.3) is enough ?
[03:43] <ogra> (its currently zope3 (<= 3.3))
[03:43] <doko> ogra: no, requires port to zope3.3, not yet done by upstream
[03:43] <ogra> hmm, likely to hapen before hurd2 ?
[03:43] <ogra> s/hurd/herd/
[03:43] <doko> we ship fur hurd? ;-P
[03:43] <ogra> heh :)
[03:44] <ogra> for the herds 
[03:44] <doko> unlikely for feisty, maybe ask upstream
[03:44] <ogra> ouch 
[03:44] <ogra> that means we cant ship it at all ? do we have a fallback ? 
[03:44] <ogra> (older zope etc)
[03:45] <TeknoMatik> Hi all, i am beginer
[03:45] <jdong> doko: regarding Azureus repack, if you md5sum the two orig.tar.gz's you'll see that quite some PNG's are corrupt in the original packaging
[03:46] <jdong> doko: that was the cause for the tray icon not showing up
[03:46] <doko> jdong: yes, seen that
[03:46] <TeknoMatik> Please tell me, what i must know for join in development community?
[03:46] <jdong> ok, cool :)
[03:46] <doko> ogra: include zope3.2 into the schoolbell package and ship that one?
[03:47] <ogra> doko, the whole of 3.2 ? that sounds evil ... and lie a lot of work
[03:47] <ogra> *like
[03:47] <TeknoMatik>  Please tell me, what i must know for join in development community?
[03:47] <ogra> TeknoMatik, go to #ubuntu-motu 
[03:48] <TeknoMatik> ok, thank's
[03:53] <davmor2> sorry for lack of response got called away it was the 5223 that was wrong and why I couldn't log on thank to who ever pointed it out.
[03:53] <davmor2> to gmail with gossip
[04:09] <elmo> so, uhm, if you have to take stuff out of /etc/n/i to get n-m to love you, how is one meant to configure your network when X is broken, JOOI?
[04:09] <azeem> elmo: you edit /etc/n/i back :)
[04:10] <elmo> well, that's what I did, but seriously?
[04:10] <azeem> AFAIK, nobody's implemented CLI support for n-m yet
[04:11] <Nafallo> elmo: auto + dhcp works aswell :-)
[04:12] <Nafallo> makes n-m happy etc... ;-)
[04:12] <Hobbsee> Nafallo: as long as /e/n/i is there...
[04:12] <Nafallo> Hobbsee: ehrm... is there cases when it isn't?
[04:13] <Hobbsee> Nafallo: see elmo's first line, with it all commented out
[04:13] <Hobbsee> that being said, apparently NM loves me even with the lines in /e/n/i
[04:13] <elmo> Nafallo: I've never seen n-m work when the interface was in /etc/n/i and been told several times that that's how you get n-m to 'own' the interface *shrug*
[04:14] <Hobbsee> elmo: depends what phase the moon is in, and on wind direction, i'm afraid...
[04:14] <Nafallo> lol
[04:14] <Nafallo> n-m is still not up for the job if you ask me :-)
[04:14] <Hobbsee> on that note, it's bedtime - night all!
[04:14] <Nafallo> Hobbsee: gnight :-)
[04:14] <Hobbsee> bah.  it's better than running a manual wpasupplicant :P
[04:15] <Nafallo> Hobbsee: ifup ftw :-)
[04:15] <Nafallo> and $essid.sh ;-)
[04:20] <ogra> hmm, why is ntp uninstallable ... i dont see a reason ...
[04:29] <zul> hi
[04:44] <ogra> fabbione, is it ok with you to drop ntp-server from ship/server-ship ? seems ntp now replaces it ... (at least according to the deps)
[04:45] <ogra> oh ntp-simple as well indeed
[04:48] <Nafallo> ogra: right. better to have real packages instead of transitional things :-).
[04:49] <ogra> well, there seems to be no transitional thing ... ntp just replaces everything ... but the seeds still want the old package names ...
[04:49] <Nafallo> oh. right.
[04:49] <Nafallo> ntp-simple is transitional though
[04:50] <ogra> well, why are we using bzr for the seeds if not for rollbackability ... (nice word :) )
[04:50] <Nafallo> hehe. indeed :-)
[05:07] <itsme> hi
[05:18] <bddebian> Heya
[05:18] <jdong> hey bddebian
[05:18] <bddebian> Hi jdong
[05:19] <Nafallo> hi bddebian :-)
[05:19] <bddebian> Gah :)
[05:19] <Nafallo> hehe
[05:19] <Nafallo> redundant "hi" ftw! :-)
[05:19] <bddebian> heh
[05:20] <jdong> is there a way to script a hi to everyone in a channel?
[05:21] <jdong> (kidding, please don't empower me with that kind of knowledge)
[05:21] <Nafallo> jdong: lol
[05:21] <jdong> Nafallo: out of curiousity, can we import a newer x264 snapshot than debian-marillat?
[05:22] <jdong> I'm interested in 20061216's threading improvements
[05:22] <jdong> requires a minor sed to the few packages that build against x264 though
[05:24] <jdong> Nafallo: and I'm looking at gajim right now, poke me in a day if I get forgetful
[05:24] <Nafallo> jdong: nice. thanks :-)
[05:25] <Nafallo> jdong: I apt-get source x264 :-)
[05:25] <jdong> heh :)
[05:25] <jdong> Nafallo: you're motu-media, right?
[05:25] <Nafallo> yepp. but I haven't touched this one before :-)
[05:25] <jdong> ah, ok
[05:26] <jdong> if I file a launchpad bug asking for a newer x264 snapshot than marillat, detailing the patch(es) necessary to build ffmpeg and friends... what's the chance of acceptance?
[05:26] <Nafallo> ah. noone has :-P
[05:26] <Nafallo> I will atleast look at it :-)
[05:26] <jdong> it seems like we've always just followed marillat, I'm not sure if it's taboo to be newer than it :D
[05:27] <jdong> nope, still on 1210 :(
[05:28] <Nafallo> we have 0928 :-P
[05:28] <jdong> Nafallo: I KNOW :)
[05:28] <Nafallo> jdong: maybe it's easier to have him doing the work ;-)
[05:29] <jdong> Nafallo: I shall prepare some source packages
[05:29] <Nafallo> nice :-)
[05:29] <jdong> I notice that when all that's needed is a dput, it tends to happen better :)
[05:30] <Nafallo> indeed :-)
[05:30] <Nafallo> and a review and build... ;-)
[05:32] <jdong> ok, heading out to restock my fridge now, will work on x264 goodness afterwards
[05:35] <Nafallo> nice :-)
[06:07] <Riddell> cjwatson: are you able to look into what's happened to digikamimageplugins?  uploads for it disappear
[06:07] <cjwatson> Riddell: roughly when was the last upload?
[06:08] <Riddell> cjwatson: about christmas
[06:09] <cjwatson> Riddell: http://librarian.launchpad.net/5548495/A5fthh1B20Azq01vNRec2PkDRqa.txt - it's not entirely clear what happened, but I think it's transient so I'll reprocess it
[06:10] <cjwatson> Riddell: ok, that worked
[06:10] <Riddell> cjwatson: great, thanks
[06:11] <Riddell> cjwatson: fancy doing some promotion/demotion too?
[06:11] <Riddell> cjwatson: libopenobex1.0 and binaries needs demoted to universe with libopenobex and binaries promoted
[06:12] <ogra> mbr too so lilo is installable again ... i did the MIR for it already ....
[06:13] <cjwatson> Riddell: libopenobex1.0 isn't on the schedule for demotion; can you hunt down what's still using it?
[06:13] <Riddell> cjwatson: kdebluetooth and libbtctl will still be using it, until their version with the new libopenobex are compiled
[06:14] <cjwatson> ogra: not until the MIR's been reviewed and approved
[06:14] <Riddell> cjwatson: so just do the promotion and wait for the demotion if that's easier
[06:14] <ogra> well, it has to go in anyway ... but right, ets wait for the bureocracy to be done :)
[06:14] <ogra> *lets
[06:15] <cjwatson> Riddell: done
[06:15] <Riddell> ogra: MIRs seems like a perfectly worthwhile beurocracy
[06:15] <Riddell> ogra: but if you're poking pitti to do that MIR, poke him to do gsmlib for me too :)
[06:15] <cjwatson> we can set ogra and jbailey up in a deathmatch if everyone really wants :)
[06:16] <Riddell> thanks cjwatson 
[06:16] <cjwatson> it's for the support team's sanity as much as anything else
[06:16] <ogra> Riddell, well, not for packages where debian introduced dependencies that are forced upon us anyway ... we could save te bytes to write one in that case imho
[06:16] <cjwatson> I disagree
[06:16] <Nafallo> cjwatson: sounds fun :-). might be a revenuestream as well as any ;-)
[06:16] <cjwatson> in some cases we would want to revert the new dependency instead
[06:17] <cjwatson> that's part of what the MIR review process is for
[06:17] <ogra> cjwatson, well, indeed ... but there are some cases where we couldnt do that without breaking everything ... indeed you cant predict which packages that applies to ...
[06:18] <cjwatson> ogra: that's what the review process is for
[06:18] <ogra> yeah, understood
[06:18] <cjwatson> and is why I said "in some cases". We aren't automatons
[06:18] <Riddell> cjwatson: could you also promote libept: libept-dev, it's the new name for the new version of libapt-front
[06:18] <ogra> if we were we would be called launchpad ;)
[06:19] <cjwatson> Riddell: is it descended from the same code, or a rewrite?
[06:19] <Riddell> cjwatson: it's the same coade
[06:19] <Riddell> code
[06:20] <cjwatson> Riddell: ok, promoted
[06:20] <Riddell> thanks cjwatson 
[06:56] <keescook> doko: looks like we've got some OOo security backporting to do for the WMF vuln
[06:57] <doko> keescook: yeah ... please forward me your information, I think I have a patch for one of those
[06:58] <keescook> doko: all I've got so far are the posts to full-disclosure; I haven't gone digging yet.
[06:58] <doko> but I won't mind if you do want to get familiar with OOo =)
[06:58] <Nafallo> haha
[07:01] <cjwatson> In Soviet Russia, Firefox gets familiar with YOU!
[07:02] <keescook> hehehe
[07:02] <Nafallo> :-=
[07:02] <Nafallo> :-)
[08:24] <bluefoxicy> FUCK.
[08:24] <bluefoxicy> kernel panic.
[08:25] <bluefoxicy> and gnome decides that anything stored in gconf2 is suddenly nuked.
[08:25] <bluefoxicy> this is worse than the windows registry, this is like the fifth time this has happened.
[08:26] <zul> language
[08:27] <LaserJock> bluefoxicy: still better to say to yourself then on IRC :-)
[08:27] <bluefoxicy> LaserJock:  if I say it on IRC maybe someone will explain to me why it happens :|
[08:28] <Nafallo> bluefoxicy: try #ubuntu-desktop when people are back from holidays in that case ;-)
[08:33] <bluefoxicy> argh
[08:33] <bluefoxicy> dpkg --configure -a causes it
[08:33] <bluefoxicy> while it's updating tcl or tk or something.
[08:33] <bluefoxicy> when it gets there the machine just dies.  :|
[08:34] <bluefoxicy> part of my panel gets stretched across my entire screen, and then it just goes limp.  magic sysrq does nothing
[08:35] <bluefoxicy> xchat-gnome prefs, gone.  Rhythmbox prefs, gone (playlists in tact, they're in another directory).
[08:36] <LaserJock> bluefoxicy: this is on Feisty?
[08:36] <bluefoxicy> panel applets, all gone
[08:36] <bluefoxicy> yes.  It's happened on dapper too, but very rarely
[08:36] <bluefoxicy> and not triggered the same way
[08:36] <LaserJock> odd, good reason to have backups of ~/ :/
[08:37] <bluefoxicy> dpkg dying trying to configure... whatever's in the queue right now (it died while synaptic was running the first time), on 2.6.20 (latest) generic or lowlatency (tried both)
[08:37] <bluefoxicy> dapper/edgy had issues where I crashed it other ways and once or twice I lost anything stored in gconf2
[08:37] <Nafallo> bluefoxicy: /+addbug :-)
[08:38] <bluefoxicy> Nafallo:  /+addpissedoff is more like it :|  this is hella annoying.
[08:38] <bluefoxicy> it's one thing to lose config for your panel
[08:38] <bluefoxicy> but for every gnome-integrated application?
[08:39] <Nafallo> bluefoxicy: hmm, /+filebug then? :-)
[08:39] <bluefoxicy> heh
[08:44] <ernstp> I searched for debian on ubuntu wiki and couldn't find anything about how to suggest an import from debian to ubuntu
[08:44] <ernstp> Should be something with motu perhaps?
[08:48] <bluefoxicy> filed.
[09:18] <cjwatson> ernstp: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources#syncs
[09:18] <cjwatson> ernstp: if you aren't in the relevant development team you should ask somebody who is to help, so yes #ubuntu-motu
[09:19] <cjwatson> in general we only accept sync requests from people who would ordinarily have been able to make the same upload by handd
[09:19] <cjwatson> hand
[09:21] <cjwatson> Mithrandir: please give back libcairo after this publisher run
[09:21] <Mithrandir> cjwatson: ack.
[09:21] <cjwatson> unfortunate sync timing, that; it broke the ubiquity build as well
[09:21] <cjwatson> (sync> libcairo)
[09:22] <LaserJock> cjwatson: I'm looking into ernstp's sync requests
[09:22] <cjwatson> thanks
[09:22] <LaserJock> cjwatson: one of the packages, linuxdcpp, seems to have been in Debian for over a year. He thought that it was perhaps in Dapper but removed
[09:22] <LaserJock> cjwatson: is there a way you can check if it *was* in Ubuntu at some point?
[09:23] <cypher1> LaserJock, will packages.ubuntu.com help
[09:24] <LaserJock> cypher1: indeed it is
[09:24] <cypher1> LaserJock, :)
[09:25] <LaserJock> well, stink. packages.ubuntu.com has it in dapper, edgy, and fiesty
[09:26] <LaserJock> ok, well that looks like a bad bug
[09:26] <LaserJock> it's in Ubuntu
[09:26] <ernstp> LaserJock: it looks like it's in but it's not?
[09:27] <ogra> its ftbfs apparently
[09:28] <ogra> or waiting for a dep or something ... sources are there but no binary
[09:28] <ernstp> LaserJock: oh right, it needs a version sync with debian then perhaps?
[09:28] <ogra> ogra@edubuntu:~$ apt-cache madison linuxdcpp
[09:28] <ogra>  linuxdcpp | 0.0.1.cvs20061208-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Sources
[09:28] <ogra> whats in debian ... cvs2006120 doesnt seem to old
[09:29] <Nafallo> oh
[09:29] <Nafallo> I can confirm
[09:29] <ogra> err cvs20061208
[09:29] <Nafallo> the damn thing uses scones :-)
[09:32] <ernstp> Checking for pkg-config... no
[09:32] <ernstp> 	pkg-config not found.
[09:33] <ernstp> so it's deps are wrong..
[09:35] <LaserJock> ernstp: can you update the bug report with what you've found?
[09:40] <ernstp> LaserJock: done
[09:40] <LaserJock> ernstp: thanks
[09:42] <kylem> mmm scones.
[09:49] <doko> Mithrandir: please could you requeue openoffice.org on amd64?
[09:52] <Nafallo> Mithrandir: and please retry linuxdcpp. built fine in my pbuilder just now.
[09:52] <Nafallo> :-)
[09:59] <hunger> Any ETA for the restricted modules matching the new linux-image?
[10:00] <LaserJock> hehe, "when it builds" maybe?
[10:25] <gnomefreak> LaserJock: l-r-m-generic is built just waiting for l-r-m-kernel i bellive along with the nvidia package for that l-r-m and stuff like that
[10:25] <LaserJock> mhm
[10:27] <LaserJock> gnomefreak: np ;-)
[10:50] <cjwatson> hunger: I accepted them three quarters of an hour or so before you asked that
[10:50] <cjwatson> hunger: so they should be visible now
[10:52] <KinGBin> slomo: do you have a sec to help me compile mpeg4ip?
[10:52] <mdke> cjwatson: can you have a look at my sru bug next week some time maybe? I'll dig out the bug number
[10:52] <cjwatson> mdke: yes
[10:53] <cjwatson> can't now, though
[10:53] <mdke> well, it's 10 o clock on a friday night
[10:53] <mdke> I wouldn't have expected now
[10:54] <mdke> cjwatson: it's bug 74555, for your reference
[10:54] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 74555 in ubuntu-docs "Stable release update" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/74555
[10:56] <cjwatson> mdke: please just subscribe ubuntu-sru and assign to nobody - if you assign to ubuntu-sru it doesn't show up in +subscribedbugs for us
[10:57] <cjwatson> (or at least it didn't use to - which is/was a Malone bug I guess)
[10:57] <cjwatson> shouldn't be assigned to us anyway since we're just approving not implementing
[10:57] <mdke> cjwatson: I guess it would be in +assignedbugs :) My bad, I must have misread the page
[10:57] <cjwatson> yeah, it would be in +assignedbugs but I don't check that
[10:57] <cjwatson> well, not usually
[10:58] <mdke> assigned bugs is the default on the bugs page 
[10:58] <mdke> at least for people
[10:58] <mdke> maybe it's different for groups
[10:58] <cjwatson> might be the default but it's not useful for ubuntu-sru generally and so is not my finger macro
[10:58] <cjwatson> I don't navigate to that page, I type in the url
[10:59] <cjwatson> same as for ubuntu-archive
[10:59] <mdke> I didn't mean to challenge what you said, I was going to change the bug immediately
[10:59] <cjwatson> just explaining why the default on the bugs page isn't relevant :)
[10:59] <cjwatson> anyway, bedtime
[11:00] <mdke> good night
[11:00] <Nafallo> !seen jono
[11:01] <Nafallo> hmm
[11:01] <KinGBin> I know this isn't the right channel so dont' blast me, but... I'm trying to compile faac without the mp4 support, I can't find any switches to use to have it compile without mp4 support, anybody know? I'm using the latest faac pulled from the repository
[11:09] <hunger> cjwatson: Not visible yet:-(
[11:11] <LaserJock> hunger: I got it
[11:12] <Lure> hunger: maybe your mirror is not up-to-date yet - I got it too
[11:13] <hunger> Ah... now it is visible for me as well!
[11:16] <_ion> It would be nice if mirrors communicated between each other using a P2P protocol, using which new stuff would be *pushed* to mirrors. Mirrors (all of them) would have the new stuff almost immediately, and the bandwidth used to synchronize mirrors would be shared evenly between all of them.
[11:21] <doko> Mithrandir: please requeue OOo on powerpc and sparc as well
[11:32] <Mithrandir> doko: ooo given-back
[11:32] <Mithrandir> Nafallo: linuxdcpp given-back
[11:33] <_ion> "Aha, console-setup was configured". Ctrl-Alt-F1, Alt-F7. I'm getting used to the screen getting corrupted. ;-)
[11:33] <Nafallo> Mithrandir: thanks mate :-)
[11:33] <LaserJock> we'll see if that works
[11:34] <Nafallo> LaserJock: since it worked locally it should. otherwise we can set infinity on it again ;-)
[11:34] <Mithrandir> cjwatson: libcairo given-back on sparc and ia64; built fine otherwise.
[11:37] <LaserJock> Nafallo: yeah, I just have my doubts since it was tried at least 2-3 times and failed
[11:38] <Nafallo> LaserJock: we'll see :-)
[11:50] <hunger> wsw3ma
[11:51] <hunger> sorry...  wrong window:-(
[11:51] <Nafallo> lol
[11:51] <Nafallo> no shit :-P
[11:51] <hunger> and "too many fingers on keyboard error".
[11:52] <_ion> How can there be too many fingers on a keyboard? Your friend is trying to type at the same time?
[11:53] <hunger> Nah... eagle typing... circling over the keyboard and then suddenly striking.
[12:02] <mdke> does anyone know if the desktop cd still has WinFOSS on it?
[12:02] <mdke> I haven't had a windows system for a while