[12:27] <enyc> sistpoty: ok... what happens-next to bug 77485 ? There are more than 3 "+1" given....
[12:27] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 77485 in qpsmtpd "[SRU]  request: edgy:qpsmtpd fix for bug #72602" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77485
[12:27] <sistpoty> enyc: get it uploaded and subscribe ubuntu-archive
[12:28] <enyc> sistpoty: erm how do I do that // where is this documented? ;-)
[12:28] <sistpoty> enyc: do you need a sponsor?
[12:28] <enyc> sistpoty: I dont know!
[12:29] <sistpoty> enyc: are you a motu yet?
[12:29] <sistpoty> *g*
[12:29] <enyc> sistpoty: no!
[12:29] <enyc> sistpoty: Im confused ;-)
[12:29] <sistpoty> enyc: then you need a sponsor who'll upload the package for you
[12:29] <sistpoty> enyc: usual procedure is to subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors or ping a motu of your choice
[12:29] <sistpoty> enyc: but I can do the upload
[12:29] <enyc> sistpoty: umm err arr oh... I thought that was for updating fiesty....
[12:30] <enyc> sistpoty: I didnt see mention of sponsors in  SRU process
[12:30] <sistpoty> enyc: any motu can to upload any -proposed or -updates pocket as well
[12:31] <enyc> sistpoty: dont understand 'pocket' there
[12:32] <sistpoty> enyc: feisty, edgy, dapper and so on are distributions... edgy-updates, edgy-proposed, dapper-updates and so on are pockets of that distribution
[12:32] <sistpoty> enyc: it's just a naming convention
[12:33] <enyc> sistpoty: right... so somewhere things get put for updates or proposed-updates
[12:33] <enyc> sistpoty: is 'security' a pocket too ?
[12:33] <sistpoty> enyc: yes... the distribution field in debian/changelog will determine the distribution and the pocket
[12:33] <sistpoty> enyc: yes
[12:33] <enyc> aaah I see
[12:33] <sistpoty> enyc: at least I think these are called pockets, maybe they have yet another name *g*
[12:34] <enyc> edgy-proposed
[12:34] <enyc> heh
[12:34] <enyc> ok
[12:34] <enyc> right....
[12:35] <enyc> hrrm well upload the debdiff'ed package to proposed for 77485 please ;-) ... Presumably you should not do this for 78005 until there are more +1's
[12:36] <sistpoty> enyc: on it ;)
[12:41] <sistpoty> enyc: uploaded, now please subscribe ubuntu-archive
[12:48] <enyc> sistpoty: done...
[12:51] <tsmithe> argh!
[12:51] <tsmithe> pbuilder is dead
[12:51] <tsmithe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/502/
[12:51] <tsmithe> :(
[12:55] <geser> how have you called pbuilder?
[01:12] <tsmithe> geser, sudo pbuilder build somalist_0.1_source.changes
[01:13] <geser> try again with the .dsc
[01:13] <tsmithe> ah ok
[01:13] <geser> pbuilder build [options]  .dsc-file
[01:14] <tsmithe> thanks
[01:33] <zul> hey
[01:35] <enyc> sistpoty: thankyou btw ;-)
[01:35] <sistpoty> np
[01:35] <sistpoty> hi zul
[01:36] <zul> hey sistpoty how goes it?
[01:36] <sistpoty> zul: so far so good... just writing my diploma thesis :/
[01:36] <sistpoty> zul: how about you?
[01:41] <zul> sistpoty: ok i guess just fixing some things
[01:51] <crimsun> xerxas: yes?
[02:43] <geser> is someone here using gchemutils?
[02:44] <geser> I updated the package to gchemutils 0.7.4 and need someone to test them
[02:44] <crimsun> url?
[02:45] <geser> I doing a last pbuilder run and will put it then on a webspace
[02:45] <crimsun> ok.
[02:45] <geser> are amd64 packages ok for you?
[02:46] <crimsun> pentium 233 here, so no. Sorry.
[02:46] <crimsun> I'll gladly take the source packages and pbuild on a remote host.
[02:47] <Nafallo> crimsun: 233MHz... are you kidding me? :-)
[02:48] <crimsun> public university in a state that doesn't really value education...'nuff said
[02:48] <Nafallo> indeed
[02:49] <Hobbsee> Sysinfo for 'sarah': Linux 2.6.20-3-generic running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: GenuineIntel(R)CPUT2250@1.73GHz at 800 MHz (3459 bogomips), , RAM: 816/1510MB, 141 proc's, 35.54min up
[02:51] <geser> crimsun: http://members.ping.de/~mb/gchemutils/
[02:51] <crimsun> geser: thanks
[02:51] <geser> I needed to update to 0.7.4 because 0.6.3 needs an older libgoffice
[02:52] <geser> the Debian packages use other package names than the current Ubuntu ones
[02:52] <geser> I hope to get the conflict/replaces right
[03:02] <somerville32> crimsun: I brought up the xchat thing in #ubuntu-devel today
[03:03] <crimsun> somerville32: what was the consensus?
[03:03] <somerville32> crimsun; A few people commented. Mdke wonders why we can't just have both.
[03:04] <crimsun> it wouldn't make sense to me to have both xchat-gnome and xchat in main, really
[03:04] <Nafallo> ubuntu / xubuntu?
[03:04] <crimsun> the latter has superceded the former
[03:04] <crimsun> what does x-g offer that x doesn't?
[03:05] <somerville32> use of libnotify apparently
[03:05] <Nafallo> better integration with gnome
[03:05] <crimsun> hmph.
[03:05] <somerville32> Which is really non-applicable to Xubuntu since we refuse to pull in gnome libs :)
[03:05] <somerville32> me too
[03:06] <crimsun> I'm still an irssi user despite sinning with xchat* and konversation.
[03:06] <Nafallo> my current setup is screen irssi + proxy on the server and connecting to it with xchat :-)
[03:06] <somerville32> I used to like konversation but xchat is a lot faster
[03:11] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:11] <sistpoty> wb bddebian
[03:11] <bddebian> Thx sistpoty
[03:20] <crimsun> hmm, it would nice if geser provided a transition package for gchemutils -> gcu-bin
[03:23] <bddebian> It'd be nice if I had a brain too
[03:24] <crimsun> who borrowed it?
[03:27] <bddebian> Never had one :-(
[03:27] <crimsun> that doesn't bode well for us mere mortals :p
[03:28] <Nafallo> lol
[03:28] <bddebian> Yeah right, I can't even review a package properly apparently :)
[03:29] <somerville32> Thats ok
[03:30] <somerville32> I can't seem to even make a proper python package :P
[03:32] <bddebian> heh
[04:17] <LaserJock> hi people
[04:19] <bddebian> Heya LaserJock
[04:20] <Nafallo> hmm
[04:20] <Nafallo> can someone explain where LugRadio got that "BEARD!" from? :-)
[04:20] <sistpoty> hi LaserJock
[04:21] <LaserJock> sistpoty: what are you doing up?
[04:21] <LaserJock> and hi
[04:21] <sistpoty> LaserJock: well, I'm about to go to bed... just building one last package and writing a little bit code for my thesis *g*
[04:22] <sistpoty> oh, nice de.archive.ubuntu.com is down. ok, package building finished *g*
[04:23] <Nafallo> sistpoty: we are in the same timezone IIRC ;-)
[04:23] <sistpoty> utc +1
[04:23] <Nafallo> yepp :-)
[04:23] <sistpoty> hehe
[04:31] <LaserJock> hmm
[04:31] <LaserJock> so when I try to open up firefox on a remote machine via X forwarding it opens on the local machine
[04:32] <bddebian> Uhm, that's what x-forwarding does d00d :-)
[04:32] <bddebian> Or do you mean it opens a local copy of FireFox?
[04:32] <crimsun> he wants the other non-forwarding X forwarding. =)
[04:33] <Nafallo> crimsun: ROTFL
[04:33] <Nafallo> we need a quotebot! :-D
[04:33] <sistpoty> as long as it's capable of displaying pr0n :P
[04:34] <bddebian> heh
[04:34] <Nafallo> should I file a bug? ;-)
[04:36] <Nafallo> sistpoty: the bot must display pr0n? ;-)
[04:36] <sistpoty> Nafallo: no, firefox
[04:36] <sistpoty> *g*
[04:36] <Nafallo> so the bot must display firefox? :-P
[04:36] <Nafallo> this becomes more and more complicated ;-)
[04:36] <sistpoty> aaaaaaaAAAAAaaaaaaaAAA 
[04:36] <sistpoty> *g*
[04:37] <sistpoty> I would even write http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/AAAAAAAAA
[04:39] <LaserJock> bddebian: no, I it opens a local copy
[04:40] <LaserJock> so I just vnc'd in and ran firefox
[04:41] <Nafallo> LaserJock: maybe it thought that you where stupid that wanted to run an app that existed locally remotely and larted you :-)
[04:42] <LaserJock> it's actually kinda disturbing in a wy
[04:42] <LaserJock> *way
[04:42] <Nafallo> I can imagine... not every day you get larted by your own computer :-)
[04:43] <LaserJock> heh, happens more often then I'd like to admit ;-)
[04:43] <Nafallo> ;-)
[05:05] <bddebian> LaserJock: I know the feeling man.. :-)
[05:29] <sistpoty> gn8 everyone
[05:29] <bddebian> Gnight sistpoty
[06:49] <LaserJock> ajmitch: you up?
[06:49] <crimsun> (that's a contentless ping)
[06:50] <LaserJock> it sure is :-)
[06:50] <LaserJock> well, virtually
[06:51] <LaserJock> I'm trying to figure out if he uploaded an SRU for me
[06:51] <crimsun> which?
[06:52] <LaserJock> python-imaging for Main
[06:53] <crimsun> got a bug #?
[06:55] <LaserJock> bug 75021
[06:55] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 75021 in python-imaging "SRU: python-imaging missing dependencies (edgy)" [Unknown,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/75021
[06:58] <crimsun> LaserJock: according to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-proposed/main/source/Sources.gz, no it hasn't.
[06:58] <LaserJock> but since I can't see the unapproved queue I don't know if it's uploaded or not
[06:58] <LaserJock> well, I know it's not in -proposed yet
[06:58] <Fujitsu> Afternoon, everyone.
[06:59] <crimsun> LaserJock: normally people paste the _source.changes file upon upload
[06:59] <LaserJock> heh, normally
[06:59] <LaserJock> if it was via email that would make sense
[06:59] <LaserJock> but I just pinged him real quick on irc
[07:00] <LaserJock> anyway, I'll just bug him when he's around, I imagine he's still on vacation
[07:01] <crimsun> did you ask him specifically to upload?
[07:02] <crimsun> if so, it would have been better to subscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors
[07:19] <LaserJock> crimsun: well, I'll remember that next time ;-)
[07:20] <LaserJock> it's been a while since I needed anything sponsored
[08:19] <Amaranth> sorry, setting something up
[08:37] <khaeru> Hullo?
[08:42] <khaeru> ...
[08:46] <khaeru> Yay
[08:46] <khaeru> There *is* life in space
[08:47] <khaeru> I have a question
[08:47] <Fujitsu> A little, but not a whole lot at this time.
[08:47] <Fujitsu> Go ahead.
[08:47] <khaeru> I started using mpd (music player daemon) recently
[08:47] <khaeru> There are zillions of clients
[08:47] <khaeru> http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Clients
[08:48] <khaeru> pygmy is in universe
[08:48] <Fujitsu> I use it too :)
[08:48] <khaeru> But it doesn't seem to be maintained any longer
[08:48] <khaeru> http://pygmy.berlios.de/ last release seems to have been in March
[08:48] <Fujitsu> OK, that's not tooooo long.
[08:49] <khaeru> True
[08:49] <khaeru> Hm, let me see if I can find the exact text
[08:49] <khaeru> It's been forked to something called 'sonata'
[08:49] <khaeru> Which is under more active development
[08:49] <Fujitsu> Aha, OK.
[08:49] <khaeru> http://sonata.berlios.de/
[08:51] <khaeru> Still browsing history for the message
[08:51] <khaeru> Anyway, I don't know who to bug about getting pygmy removed (which I guess doesn't matter) and sonata added
[08:52] <Fujitsu> pygmy won't likely be removed for a long time (there's no real reason to remove it, yet)
[08:52] <Fujitsu> I'll check if anybody is working on sonata packages in Debian. If not, I'll take a look at doing it.
[08:52] <Fujitsu> Indeed, it's already in Debian.
[08:53] <khaeru> Ah, delicious
[08:53] <khaeru> Which makes it easier to bring to Ubuntu (I assume?)
[08:53] <Fujitsu> Yes.
[08:53] <Fujitsu> I'll put in a sync request for it after I come back from locating food.
[08:53] <khaeru> Sounds like a good idea... afk
[09:00] <khaeru> Glorious cheese
[09:00] <khaeru> Thanks for your help, Fujitsu
[09:00] <khaeru> Good first experience in the #ubuntu* channels!
[09:56] <tepsipakki> hmm, Christer Edwards is requesting for alltray to be included in feisty. It seems to be on REVU now
[11:08] <davromaniak> If a MOTU read this message, can he review 2 packages : ccd2iso ( http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3795 ), and encadre-image ( http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3872 ), thank you very much
[11:15] <crimsun> see, you have to embrace the grue in soyuz.
[11:16] <crimsun> it makes things much more lively, because you never know how many times you'll need to upload source packages.
[11:16] <Hobbsee> crimsun: hah.  i think you wanted that in -devel, too
[11:16] <crimsun> my record is 4
[11:16] <crimsun> no, it's a bit off-topic for devel ;)
[11:16] <crimsun> or off-colour, perhaps
[11:17] <Hobbsee> haha
[11:17] <Hobbsee> well...
[11:18] <Fujitsu> dak for ever!
[11:18] <Fujitsu> *poor
[11:18] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:25] <Adri2000> Hobbsee: can you confirm bug 78058 please, it builds fine in a feisty pbuilder
[11:25] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 78058 in dvd-slideshow "Please sync dvd-slideshow (multiverse) from debian-multimedia" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78058
[11:34] <tepsipakki> Hobbsee: do you have time for another look at the 'om' merge request?
[11:35] <Hobbsee> tepsipakki: it's tagged as "todo" in my inbox.  
[11:35] <tepsipakki> nice
[11:35] <imbrandon> moins all
[11:35] <tepsipakki> Hobbsee: pleeease :)
[11:35] <tepsipakki> no rush, honest
[11:36] <Fujitsu> Hi imbrandon.
[11:36] <Hobbsee> tepsipakki: do you have a diff between the latest debian and latest ubuntu, please?
[11:37] <tepsipakki> latest ubuntu being the on we have now?
[11:37] <tepsipakki> +e
[11:37] <Hobbsee> the one you want to upload, sorry
[11:37] <TheMuso> Hey imbrandon.
[11:37] <tepsipakki> well, that's it, basically
[11:37] <Hobbsee> hey TheMuso 
[11:37] <TheMuso> Hey Hobbsee.
[11:37] <tepsipakki> let me check
[11:37] <Hobbsee> tepsipakki: that appears to be between the current ubuntu and current debian
[11:38] <tepsipakki> Hobbsee: how so?
[11:38] <Hobbsee> diff -u om-0.2.0/debian/changelog om-0.2.0/debian/changelog
[11:38] <Hobbsee> --- om-0.2.0/debian/changelog
[11:38] <Hobbsee> +++ om-0.2.0/debian/changelog
[11:38] <Hobbsee> @@ -1,5 +1,38 @@
[11:38] <Hobbsee> -om (0.2.0-0ubuntu1) dapper; urgency=low
[11:38] <Hobbsee> +om (0.2.0-2ubuntu1) unstable; urgency=low
[11:39] <TheMuso> Bah! There goes that idea of using a feisty daily image.
[11:39] <tepsipakki> well, I ditched the old ubuntu version
[11:39] <TheMuso> alternative CD.
[11:39] <tepsipakki> but maybe there should be feisty instead of unstable?
[11:40] <Hobbsee> tepsipakki: you should be diffing against unstable and feisty
[11:40] <Hobbsee> well, that's the one i'm asking for, anyway :P
[11:41] <Hobbsee> :)
[11:41] <tepsipakki> Hobbsee: oh, now I get it
[11:41] <Fujitsu> TheMuso, where'd your old one go?
[11:42] <tepsipakki> Hobbsee: the diff will be much smaller, of course :)
[11:42] <TheMuso> Fujitsu: Twas mirror.pacific.net.au, but WestNet decided to no longer make pipe data quota free.
[11:42] <Fujitsu> Yeah, I noticed that at work :(
[11:42] <TheMuso> But their sponsored 3fl mirror is getting Ubuntu later this month, which is quota free for WestNet.
[11:42] <Fujitsu> Is it?
[11:42] <Fujitsu> Yay!
[11:42] <TheMuso> Damn right.
[11:43] <Fujitsu> I knew they were going to get Debian.
[11:43] <TheMuso> You don't realise what you've got till its gone.
[11:43] <Fujitsu> A full mirror, or just releases.?
[11:43] <Hobbsee> tepsipakki: yes :)
[11:43] <TheMuso> Fujitsu: An apt repository.
[11:43] <Fujitsu> Ah, good.
[11:43] <TheMuso> Yeah.
[11:43] <Fujitsu> I checked the forums a couple of days back; didn't see any mention of Ubuntu.
[11:44] <TheMuso> Just waiting for pbuilder to fetch packages for a merge, 25 MB all up.
[11:44] <TheMuso> Fujitsu: Which forums?
[11:44] <Fujitsu> The 3FL ones.
[11:44] <TheMuso> Ah.
[11:44] <TheMuso> Well I emailed them the other day.
[11:45] <TheMuso> We are planning to add the Ubuntu archive once we expand our mirror disk
[11:45] <TheMuso> space later this month. We will update the news on the mirror page and
[11:45] <TheMuso> in our forum when we have it mirrored.
[11:45] <Fujitsu> :D
[11:45] <TheMuso> Yeah.
[11:45] <Fujitsu> I wonder how frequently they'll update, though...
[11:45] <TheMuso> Same.
[11:45] <imbrandon> every 6 hours would be the normal for a ubuntu mirror
[11:45] <TheMuso> Well I know the gentoo mirror is regularly updated.
[11:46] <Fujitsu> imbrandon: Note that this is an Australian ISP, which has just revoked free PIPE access.... Normal doesn't apply here.
[11:46] <imbrandon> haha yea
[11:47] <Fujitsu> Admittedly, I'm on Optus, with no free traffic at all.
[11:47] <tepsipakki> Hobbsee: ok, the new debdiff attached
[11:47] <Hobbsee> tepsipakki: yay :0
[11:47] <TheMuso> Fujitsu: When I had quota free mirror access, I loved just using a mini netinstall CD for installs. Twas so quick and easy.
[11:48] <Hobbsee> tepsipakki: got the URL please?
[11:48] <tepsipakki> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/om/+bug/76716
[11:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 76716 in om "Please sponsor om upload" [Undecided,Needs info]  
[11:48] <Fujitsu> TheMuso, I do that anyway, though off-peak.
[11:48] <TheMuso> Fujitsu: Lucky you.
[11:48] <Fujitsu> 12/24 is good.
[11:48] <TheMuso> I have almost used all off-peak here with feisty CD rsyncs.
[11:48] <Hobbsee> thanks
[11:50] <TheMuso> ah sweet. Its compiling now.
[11:56] <Hobbsee> tepsipakki: done
[12:02] <TheMuso> tepsipakki: She is not always gentle when dealing with others, so don't be lulled into a false sense of security. :)
[12:06] <Hobbsee> :)
[12:07] <tepsipakki> TheMuso: I'll try to remember that :)
[12:08] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: that's because i havent been *here* much lately
[12:09] <Q-FUNK> heh
[02:41] <Lutin> some knows what's the equivalent of gtk_text_freeze and gtk_text_thaw in gtk+ ?
[03:48] <TeknoMatik> Hi all, i am beginer
[03:48] <TeknoMatik> Please tell me, what i must know for join in development community?
[03:49] <TeknoMatik> hay!
[03:51] <_Enchained> TeknoMatik: read the topic ;) ?
[03:53] <TeknoMatik> in #ubuntu-devel turn me to here
[03:53] <_MMA_> READ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[03:54] <TeknoMatik> Me need other chanel???
[03:55] <TeknoMatik> sorry :(
[04:32] <_Enchained> A motu to take a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3969 ? (alltray)
[04:33] <keescook> Fujitsu: vnc4 doesn't build on edgy/feisty.  did you test the debdiffs you made?  (Dapper is currently building for me)
[04:57] <savek> hi
[05:02] <cypher1> why is not firefox 2.0 backported to dapper ? one of the reason being it an LTS.
[05:04] <Nafallo> why should it be?
[05:04] <cypher1> i am updating my firefox in dapper.. still it is in firefox 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.9-0ubuntu0.6.06
[05:04] <cypher1> Nafallo: one main reason -- it is an LTS.. lot of ppl will be there for sometime
[05:05] <Nafallo> cypher1: not a reason :-)
[05:05] <Nafallo> cypher1: a reason not to upgrade to 2.0 though...
[05:05] <cypher1> Nafallo: why not upgrade to 2.0 ?
[05:06] <Nafallo> cypher1: it's probably a lot of new code, breakes ABI and isn't tested as well as the 1.5-series.
[05:06] <Nafallo> new code = new bugs
[05:07] <cypher1> Nafallo: sorry what is ABI ?
[05:07] <Nafallo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_Binary_Interface
[05:08] <cypher1> Nafallo: is it the fear of new bugs that we are not putting it in dapper ??
[05:08] <cypher1> Nafallo: thanks for the link
[05:08] <zul> yes and there ir probably a bunch of libraries as well that is affected by firefox
[05:09] <davromaniak> If a MOTU read this message, can he review 2 packages please : ccd2iso ( http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3795 ), and encadre-image ( http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3872 ), thank you very much
[05:09] <Nafallo> dapper is frozen and released for ages... we won't be adding non-trivial stuff unless we can't avoid it.
[05:09] <cypher1> Nafallo: even though it is termed as LTS ?
[05:10] <cypher1> Nafallo: sorry does LTS not cover availability of new versions ?
[05:10] <Nafallo> cypher1: Long Time Support is just yet another reason to not break it in half after release :-)
[05:11] <cypher1> Nafallo: sorry does LTS not cover availability of new versions ?
[05:11] <Nafallo> no. it covers security and grave bugs.
[05:11] <Nafallo> or rather fixes for those...
[05:12] <cypher1> Nafallo: ok.. so if one wants new features and versions they have to leave LTS and go to upper releases
[05:12] <Nafallo> yea. like the current devel-release that sometimes DO break your systems in half :-).
[05:14] <cypher1> Nafallo: i agree..but still i am little upset.. especially i guess when higher versions of products like FF which is used by almost all is not backported
[05:15] <Nafallo> there was a backport of that product when that team was new. peoples desktops broke hard :-P
[05:15] <zul> cypher1: you could always download the binary from mozilla
[05:16] <cypher1> Nafallo: oh..ok
[05:16] <cypher1> zul: thanks will do
[05:16] <cypher1> Nafallo: zul thanks for your times.. i am little clear now
[05:17] <ogra> cypher1, how would you guarantee you dont intorduce new grave bugs if you upgrade to 2.0 ? ubuntu simply cant provde such a service with 16people in the distro team ...  if you can mobilize more manpower for the backports team that could change ;)
[05:17] <cypher1> ogra: :)
[05:17] <cypher1> ogra: definitely i can volunteer.. not sure of others though :D
[05:18] <zul> ogra: we could work you to death, like the slaves on the roman galleys with the drums
[05:18] <ogra> haha
[05:18] <cypher1> :)
[05:18] <bddebian> Heya gang
[05:18] <cypher1> hi bddebian 
[05:18] <Nafallo> hi bddebian *hug*
[05:18] <bddebian> Heya cypher1, Nafallo
[05:19] <zul> ogra: heh back in line maggots ;)
[05:23] <cypher1> bye all
[05:33] <Riddell> thanks for fixing basket Adri2000 
[05:36] <Adri2000> no problem :)
[05:38] <Riddell> Adri2000: if you have any questions about KDE packages #kubuntu-devel is always a good channel
[05:40] <Adri2000> okay
[05:51] <theCore> before I start to follow the SRU procedure, is there actually any chance that the fix, for the bug 57951, could be accepted?
[05:51] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 57951 in xchat "xchat crashes frequently on quit" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/57951
[05:52] <theCore> it is not really a high-impact bug, but just a really annoying bug for many users
[06:05] <Nafallo> hmm
[06:07] <geser> theCore: as the changes are really small, you should have a good chance (but motu-sru can see it otherwise)
[06:07] <Lutin> Heya Toadstool, how are you doing ?
[06:07] <theCore> geser: thanks
[06:27] <joejaxx> Hello All
[06:28] <All> Hi joejaxx
[06:29] <joejaxx> AstralJava: LOL
[06:39] <_Enchained> Hi
[06:39] <jpatrick> _Enchained: hello
[06:39] <_Enchained> bddebian: I've updated alltray and dvd95 on REVU if you want to look at... (or someone else...)
[06:42] <cypher1> i have a doubt regarding merge/sync
[06:43] <cypher1> the extracted source directory we get when we use grab-merge.sh, is it the latest debian source or latest ubuntu source ?
[06:44] <Adri2000> cypher1: the merged source
[06:44] <Adri2000> merged by MoM
[06:44] <Adri2000> so you'll need to check that everything is ok and to fix conflicts if any
[06:45] <bddebian> _Enchained: OK
[06:45] <cypher1> Adri2000, so then what is the purpose of running merge-buildpackage ?
[06:45] <_Enchained> bddebian: (I will just clean a bit the rules on alltray, like gpocentek said...)
[06:46] <Adri2000> cypher1: where have you seen that?
[06:47] <gpocentek> cypher1: the main interest (for me) is that it generates a correct source.changes
[06:47] <cypher1> Adri2000, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/Merging-and-Syncing
[06:47] <cypher1> Adri2000, Step Six
[06:48] <gpocentek> hello BTW
[06:48] <Adri2000> cypher1: ah yes, I don't use that
[06:49] <Adri2000> cypher1: merge-buildpackage runs dpkg-buildpackage -S which creates the source package
[06:49] <Adri2000> (I use debuild -S for that)
[06:49] <Adri2000> what's important is to specify the latest ubuntu version
[06:49] <Adri2000> with -v<version>
[06:50] <Adri2000> to have a correct .changes file
[06:50] <cypher1> Adri2000, but why do one need .changes, since we just upload a debdiff ?
[06:51] <Adri2000> cypher1: MOTUs dput the .changes, so it must be correct, if your upload is sponsored by a MOTU, no it's not really important since the MOTU will regenerate the .changes file
[06:51] <ogra> motus dont upload debdiffs, they upload the fixed packge, motu wannabees upload debdiffs ;)
[06:53] <cypher1> Adri2000, ogra thanks :).. i really look forward to the tutorials to provide more insight into what and why one is doing something :)
[06:56] <_Enchained> bddebian: alltray is updated at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3973 ;)
[07:20] <cypher1> sorry i forgot, whom should i subscribe to a merge/sync request ?
[07:20] <bddebian> Heya LaserJock
[07:21] <bddebian> cypher1: If you are an MOTU, Ubuntu Archive.  If not, Ubuntu Universe Sponsors
[07:21] <LaserJock> hi bddebian 
[07:22] <LaserJock> bddebian: can you get to google.com ?
[07:23] <cypher1> bddebian, it says hobbsee.kubuntu@gmail.com
[07:23] <jpatrick> cypher1: probably Hobbsee|NotHere 's
[07:24] <bddebian> LaserJock: Yep
[07:25] <cypher1> can anyone please have a look at bug #78102
[07:25] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 78102 in libflash "[Merge Request]  libflash 0.4.13-9 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78102
[07:33] <cypher1> Adri2000, i need to run merge-buldpackage
[07:33] <cypher1> Adri2000, sorry ignore that
[07:37] <LaserJock> hmm
[07:37] <nixternal> hmm
[07:38] <LaserJock> well, my computer doesn't want to connect to google
[07:38] <_Enchained> LaserJock: only google?
[07:39] <LaserJock> in fact only www.google.com
[07:39] <LaserJock> www.google.com/calendar works fine
[07:39] <bddebian> weird
[07:39] <LaserJock> but with www.google.com it tries to go to the uni's wifi
[07:40] <_Enchained> I cannot help you, www.google.com redirect me on www.google.fr
[07:40] <bddebian> internal DNS screwup :)
[07:40] <LaserJock> _Enchained: heh, that worked
[07:40] <stgraber> LaserJock: try : host www.google.com and have a look at the ips
[07:40] <stgraber> LaserJock: it could be your DNS cache that does a bad job
[07:41] <nixternal> LaserJock: sounds like my uni. they have a horrid caching system that screws up google.com for me as well. it sends me to the wifi login page at times
[07:42] <nixternal> LaserJock: either keep trying to refresh, or nix the cookie/cache it is located and then cross your toes, and 3 fingers
[07:42] <LaserJock> nixternal: well, I just switched from running on wifi to ethernet so perhaps that's it
[07:42] <LaserJock> but every other site seems to work, oh well
[07:43] <nixternal> ya, it is the same with me when im at school
[07:43] <stgraber> here they have another solution, they simply have put a big proxy server, so no DNS problem but when the PROXY server is overloaded or crashed (it's a Windows one) nobody can access the net ... (and only port 80 is open ...)
[07:43] <LaserJock> either that or I need to learn french ;-)
[07:43] <nixternal> lol
[07:43] <nixternal> i wonder if you can use google to translate google
[07:44] <stgraber> LaserJock: http://www.google.ch/webhp?hl=en
[07:44] <stgraber> LaserJock: swiss google in english
[07:44] <LaserJock> ch is swiss?
[07:44] <joejaxx> does anyone know whether anything else depends on the openoffice.org local packages other than openoffice?
[07:44] <stgraber> yes
[07:44] <LaserJock> I would have thought China :-)
[07:44] <stgraber> china = cn
[07:44] <LaserJock> ah
[07:45] <nixternal> ya, i wouldn't have never guessed ch as swiss either
[07:45] <bddebian> Well de is German so keep laughing ;-P
[07:45] <nixternal> everyone knows that
[07:45] <stgraber> ch = confederation hlvtique = switzerland
[07:45] <LaserJock> yeah
[07:45] <bddebian> Suuure they do
[07:45] <stgraber> de = deutschland it's more logical I think
[07:45] <LaserJock> stgraber: ah cool, good to know
[07:45] <nixternal> everyone in my hood has a big DE sticker on their cars
[07:46] <LaserJock> mhm
[07:49] <Nafallo> se and sv is kind of strange when it comes to countrycode vs. i18n :-P
[07:49] <joejaxx> anyone know?
[07:49] <LaserJock> ah yeah, that's always kinda weird
[07:49] <joejaxx> :P
[07:50] <LaserJock> local or locale?
[07:50] <joejaxx> locale sorry
[07:51] <LaserJock> apt-cache rdepends is good for that, and I believe one of the language-* do
[07:51] <joejaxx> i meant applications
[07:51] <joejaxx> yes language-support
[07:51] <joejaxx> but i am wondering if openo office is the other application that uses the OO.o locale packages
[07:52] <ryanakca> LaserJock: NUN Meeting is on sunday at 1800UTC if you're still interested in comming
[07:52] <joejaxx> s/other/only/g
[07:53] <LaserJock> ryanakca: bad time for me, but if you poke me I'll read the log and let you know if I have anything to add to the discussion
[07:53] <joejaxx> sort of like how multiple things use the wamerican dictionary
[07:53] <ryanakca> kk
[07:53] <LaserJock> joejaxx: rdepends isn't enough?
[07:56] <joejaxx> it only lists language-support
[07:56] <joejaxx> hmm
[08:02] <geser> cypher1: libflash uploaded
[08:04] <cypher1> geser, thanks !
[08:04] <joejaxx> lol oh well time to rebuild 104 packages
[08:06] <cypher1> geser, i guess you had uploaded firestarter also right
[08:06] <Nafallo> I've uploaded firestarter today
[08:06] <Nafallo> 1.0.3-1.3ubuntu2
[08:07] <cypher1> Nafallo, ok thanks !.. i am trying to find the defect number for it
[08:07] <cypher1> Nafallo, do you have it ?
[08:08] <Nafallo> cypher1: defect number? bug it closes? I've already "fix commited" it :-)
[08:08] <cypher1> Nafallo, ah thats why its not coming in the basic searches :) i will do the advanced search.. thanks
[08:09] <Nafallo> + Closes: #48006
[08:11] <cypher1> Nafallo, ok ..
[08:44] <cypher1> can anyone please have a look at bug #78107
[08:44] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 78107 in genpower "[Sync Request]  genpower-1.0.5-2 from Debian Unstable" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78107
[08:44] <ernstp> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/transmission
[08:45] <ernstp> and
[08:45] <ernstp> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/linuxdcpp0.691
[08:45] <ernstp> should be imported in ubuntu!
[08:45] <LaserJock> ernstp: the aren't in Ubuntu at all?
[08:45] <ernstp> No.
[08:45] <Nafallo> !info transmission
[08:45] <ubotu> Package transmission does not exist in any distro I know
[08:45] <ernstp> I found linuxdcpp on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates
[08:46] <ernstp> though.
[08:46] <geser> cypher1: have you tried to build genpower in a feisty pbuilder?
[08:46] <geser> cypher1: see also bug #75294
[08:46] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 75294 in genpower "Please sync genpower from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/75294
[08:46] <LaserJock> ernstp: ok, can you file bugs for those?
[08:46] <cypher1> geser, no 
[08:46] <ernstp> linuxdcpp is the only usable Direct Connect client for linux :-)
[08:47] <ernstp> LaserJock: sure! launchpad, binary hin, group?
[08:47] <ernstp> hint
[08:47] <LaserJock> ernstp: just file it against Ubuntu as they don't exist yet
[08:47] <Nafallo> ernstp: nope :-)
[08:47] <cypher1> geser, hmm... let me try to pbuild genpower
[08:48] <ernstp> LaserJock: should I assign it or tag it somehow?
[08:48] <LaserJock> ernstp: nah, just report the bug numbers in here once they are filed
[08:48] <geser> cypher1: you will get the same error as in bug 75294
[08:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 75294 in genpower "Please sync genpower from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/75294
[08:48] <cypher1> geser, the search i had done did not show that defect :( (because of rejected status )
[08:48] <Nafallo> ernstp: dcgui+dctc :-)
[08:48] <cypher1> geser, ok
[08:49] <cypher1> geser, so it is not a sync ?
[08:49] <geser> no, it doesn't make sense to sync it if it doesn't build without changes
[08:50] <Nafallo> oowrite! :-)
[08:50] <LaserJock> hmm, paint thinner + water = milky stuff :/
[08:50] <ernstp> Nafallo: come on, dcgui doesn't work!
[08:50] <geser> it needs a build-depends on sysvinit but I'm not sure if this is the right choice as Ubuntu uses upstart
[08:50] <Nafallo> ernstp: it does :-)
[08:50] <ernstp> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/78110
[08:50] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 78110 in Ubuntu "Include transmission from Debian in Ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  
[08:52] <Nafallo> ernstp: mitt ex kr det. s jo ;-).
[08:52] <zorglu_> !info deluge
[08:52] <cypher1> geser, but that dependency was removed in an earlier ubuntu revision itself
[08:52] <ubotu> Package deluge does not exist in any distro I know
[08:53] <ernstp> Nafallo: jass.. buggigt skrp. testa linuxdcpp!
[08:53] <ernstp> Nafallo: :-) let's keep it to english here, right?
[08:53] <zorglu_> http://deluge-torrent.org/trac/wiki/Downloads <- ernstp meawhile you can try this one, it is similar
[08:53] <ernstp> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/78111
[08:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 78111 in Ubuntu "Include linuxdcpp from Debian in Ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  
[08:53] <geser> cypher1: build-depends != depends
[08:53] <Nafallo> ernstp: hehe. maybe ;-)
[08:54] <Nafallo> ernstp: not me who is going to use it so... ;-)
[08:54] <zorglu_> and i have been fooled as they referenced ubuntu, but point to debian too :)
[08:54] <geser> genpower needs a header file which is shipped in sysvinit
[08:54] <ernstp> zorglu_: thanks! they've got a debian package? got a compiled install of transmission in the meantime
[08:55] <ernstp> LaserJock: did you see my posts? 78110 and 78111
[08:55] <LaserJock> yep, thanks
[08:55] <cypher1> geser, thanks i got it now :)
[08:57] <LaserJock> !info linuxdcpp
[08:57] <ubotu> Package linuxdcpp does not exist in any distro I know
[08:57] <ernstp> exists in Debian
[08:57] <LaserJock> yeah, it's just odd it's not already in
[08:57] <LaserJock> first upload was over a year ago
[08:58] <ernstp> yeah, I think it was in dapper perhaps, but now it's gone
[08:58] <ernstp> couldn't find anything about it in launchpad so..
[08:58] <bddebian> It's not on the blacklisgt
[08:58] <bddebian> Err blacklist even
[08:58] <cypher1> geser, i am looking at the control file.. the change has happened only in "Package" section and not in "Source" section
[08:59] <cypher1> geser, The "Source" section does not have any "build-depends"
[08:59] <LaserJock> ernstp: that's a bit concerning, I wonder why it was removed
[09:00] <ernstp> LaserJock: perhaps it wasn't as stable as it is now... 
[09:00] <Nafallo> hmm
[09:00] <Nafallo> is it good when the owner for the local pizza-place knows who I am when I call them? :-)
[09:01] <bddebian> Of course :-)
[09:02] <geser> cypher1: sysvinit is still required in Debian and doesn't need to be mentioned in b-d. if genpower doesn't any further b-d then b-d is missing
[09:02] <torkel> Nafallo: at least you don't ask him "What do I want to eat today?" :-)
[09:02] <Nafallo> torkel: lol
[09:03] <cypher1> geser, ok let me try to reproduce the build error.. and then add a build-depends on sysvinit
[09:03] <Nafallo> torkel: I did ask him if garlic would be good to add on it :-)
[09:03] <Nafallo> he thought so ;-)
[09:03] <torkel> Nafallo: :-)
[09:03] <LaserJock> ernstp: ok, well they are on my todo list, I'll test build them, etc. and then request the sync if it's ok
[09:05] <ernstp> LaserJock: we should add desktop-files for them if debian hasn't. I know upstream hasn't.
[09:06] <Zic_> what time is it to USA ?
[09:07] <LaserJock> Zic_: depends on what timezone
[09:07] <Nafallo> Zic_: from where? :-P
[09:07] <Nafallo> and where in the US? :-)
[09:07] <Zic_> huhu :)
[09:07] <LaserJock> Zic_: basically noon to 3:00pm
[09:07] <Nafallo> they have like three timezones or so :-)
[09:07] <Nafallo> russia have seven IIRC ;-)
[09:08] <cypher1> is there any group photo of ubuntu-motu team ? ;)
[09:08] <LaserJock> we have more if you include Hawaii and Alaska
[09:08] <Zic_> LaserJock: I dont care for the timezone, just approximately
[09:08] <Zic_> to see geeks xD
[09:09] <Zic_> but, isn't the evening so ...
[09:09] <Nafallo> cypher1: all have never been on the same place at the same time... :-)
[09:09] <LaserJock> cypher1: I don't think there's ever been more then 5 MOTUs together at the same time
[09:10] <LaserJock> at least if you don't count the core devs which are by default MOTUs
[09:10] <cypher1> ok :-)
[09:10] <Nafallo> LaserJock: you don't :-)
[09:10] <cypher1> atleast there could have been a site which has pics of all the motu's in one place
[09:11] <LaserJock> cypher1: that would be kinda cool, like a "Meet the MOTU" page
[09:11] <Nafallo> launchpad.net :-P
[09:11] <Nafallo> hackergotchis ;-)
[09:11] <cypher1> LaserJock, yes
[09:11] <LaserJock> well, I don't think they are all populated
[09:11] <cypher1> Nafallo, i need to go to many webpages
[09:11] <bddebian> Noooo
[09:11] <Nafallo> baah. people are f*ing lazy ;-)
[09:12] <Nafallo> cypher1: ask #launchpad to implement /~ubuntu-dev/+hackergotchis or something :-P
[09:12] <cypher1> Nafallo, we can spend that time in something useful :-)
[09:12] <Nafallo> we can. they can't ;-)
[09:13] <bddebian> If we do that, you all will know how old and fat I am :-)
[09:13] <cypher1> Nafallo, :)
[09:13] <cypher1> bddebian, ha ha
[09:16] <LaserJock> bddebian: you know that we are all old and fat :/
[09:16] <Nafallo> we ain't ;-)
[09:17] <bddebian> LaserJock: Not as old as I am :-)
[09:18] <LaserJock> I look it though ( Universe will do that to you) ;-)
[09:19] <plugwash> and as ubuntu drifts further away from debian things will only get worse for you guys
[09:20] <LaserJock> plugwash: depends, why might not drift too much
[09:20] <LaserJock> s/why/we/
[09:20] <LaserJock> the delta kinda goes up and down
[09:21] <LaserJock> if we're good about sending things upstream we shouldn't have unmanageable drifting I don't think
[09:22] <plugwash> i thought ubuntu had changed or were planning to change the boot process radically
[09:23] <LaserJock> upstart
[09:23] <plugwash> afaict thats going to break a lot of packages that assume that the numbering of thier init scripts means something with regard to what of the core software is already running
[09:24] <ernstp> LaserJock: you added .desktop files to packages before?
[09:25] <theCore> plugwash: upstart can use legacy boot scripts
[09:25] <plugwash> theCore i know but afaict the timing of those legacy boot scripts with relation to the native upstart boot scripts is not defined
[09:26] <plugwash> and if you use entirely legacy boot scripts then there is no point in using upstart in the first place
[09:26] <LaserJock> ernstp: linuxdcpp is already in Ubuntu
[09:26] <theCore> plugwash: not true 
[09:27] <LaserJock> plugwash: well, we do push things upstream
[09:27] <bddebian> Who does?
[09:27] <LaserJock> there are times when we have large divergence, then those shrink when Debian either catches up or makes a similar change
[09:27] <ernstp> LaserJock: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=linuxdcpp&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[09:27] <ernstp> LaserJock: not there...
[09:27] <theCore> plugwash: upstart has features that works even with the legacy boot scripts
[09:28] <plugwash> theCore well that is the impression i got from thier website anyway, until we actually see how distros implement upstart we won't know for sure but i can't see how you can radically reduce boot times (which is one of the main goals of upstart afaict) without breaking non distro boot scripts
[09:29] <theCore> plugwash: again that is not true, the main goal of upstart is to ease the management of the boot scripts
[09:30] <theCore> plugwash: reducing boot time is a side-effect 
[09:31] <plugwash> btw when do ubuntu plan to actually replace init with upstart?
[09:32] <LaserJock> well, upstart has been used for a while
[09:32] <plugwash> its already in use as the default boot method?
[09:32] <theCore> plugwash: Edgy uses upstart
[09:32] <LaserJock> yes
[09:33] <plugwash> hmm ok i didn't realise things were that far along already
[09:33] <Nafallo> plugwash: 6.10 uses upstart
[09:33] <plugwash> the upstart website certainly makes no mention of this fact
[09:33] <LaserJock> I didn't know there was a website for it :-)
[09:33] <Nafallo> does it have to? :-)
[09:34] <plugwash> does edgy actually use upstart nativey or does it just use its compatibility interface?
[09:34] <Nafallo> plugwash: some things are native.
[09:34] <theCore> plugwash: an hybrid between the two
[09:35] <ernstp> LaserJock: ah, the build deps are wrong on linuxdcpp!
[09:35] <ernstp> it need pkg-config
[09:35] <ernstp> http://librarian.launchpad.net/5381914/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-i386.linuxdcpp_0.0.1.cvs20061208-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[09:36] <Nafallo> does Debian have that? or is a sync maybe? :-)
[09:38] <ernstp> no, I don't think the linux package depends on pkg-config
[09:38] <ernstp> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/linuxdcpp
[09:38] <ernstp> build-depends
[09:39] <Nafallo> that's what we have in feisty :-P
[09:39] <LaserJock> that's strange
[09:39] <LaserJock> yeah
[09:39] <LaserJock> I wonder if the buildd had a momentary problem
[09:41] <zorglu_> full moon
[09:42] <ernstp> What do you mean? It need pkg-config and pkg-config is not in the build deps
[09:43] <LaserJock> it is in the build deps
[09:43] <ernstp> Perhaps debian has added pkg-config to build essentials or something...
[09:43] <Nafallo> ernstp: my pbuilder installs pkg-config...
[09:43] <LaserJock> the build log shows it installing pkg-config
[09:43] <LaserJock> so either the package can't find it
[09:43] <LaserJock> or something weird happened
[09:44] <ernstp> uh right, so it is
[09:44] <ernstp> I think it's a bug in the package then
[09:45] <Nafallo> we'll see...
[09:45] <Nafallo> I'm building now...
[09:45] <plugwash> or it could be a fault with the buildd, i've seen it happen on normal debian systems that files are missing for no apparent reason and sometimes even removing and reinstalling the package doesn't seem to work 
[09:45] <ernstp> on feisty?
[09:46] <Nafallo> ernstp: yepp
[09:46] <plugwash> and buildds see a LOT more installation and removal of packages than any normal debian system
[09:50] <ernstp> it simply tries pkg-config --version, and then I'm not sure it it reads the exit status or what but it's not complicated version comparisons or anything
[09:51] <Nafallo> ernstp: builds fine in my amd64 feisty pbuilder
[09:52] <ernstp> ugh..
[09:52] <LaserJock> Nafallo: I guess maybe we need to take it up with a archive admin then
[09:52] <Nafallo> LaserJock: I just asked tfheen to retry it :-)
[09:53] <LaserJock> well, I'm not sure if that's it though
[09:53] <LaserJock> if you look, it's been tried more then once
[09:53] <LaserJock> the latest being 12-12
[09:53] <ernstp> really wierd...
[09:53] <LaserJock> it could be a buildd issue
[09:53] <Nafallo> hmm. URL?
[09:54] <LaserJock> https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/284865
[09:54] <LaserJock> https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/264234
[09:54] <LaserJock> those are 2 different builds
[09:55] <LaserJock> for 2 different versions
[09:59] <LaserJock> hmm, somebody seems to be having identity issues
[09:59] <LaserJock> I think my wife my would have a diagnosis for that ;-)
[10:01] <Zic_> xD
[10:01] <Zic_> sorry :)
[10:13] <ernstp> Well good luck with transmission and linuxdcpp!
[10:14] <LaserJock> ernstp: hehe
[10:14] <ernstp> I've made some more comments on the bugs now
[10:14] <LaserJock> thanks for reporting those
[10:14] <LaserJock> I might reject the linuxdcpp one at some point
[10:14] <LaserJock> because we do have the source
[10:14] <torkel> is it enough to add a debdiff to a bug or do I have to do something more to make sure someone picks it up and does an upload?
[10:14] <LaserJock> but we'll follow up with it and see what happened
[10:15] <LaserJock> torkel: for Universe packages subscribe the ubuntu-universe-sponsors team
[10:16] <ernstp> LaserJock: reject it because it won't compile simply?
[10:17] <torkel> LaserJock: before or after I add the debdiff?
[10:18] <LaserJock> torkel: after
[10:29] <torkel> LaserJock: done. Thanks!
[10:30] <LaserJock> thank you for contributing
[10:50] <Toadstool> heya everybody!
[10:54] <ryanakca> how do I fix http://pastebin.ca/307140 ? 
[10:59] <ScottK> Hello again.  Having survived the packaging experience once, I'm back with 3 more I just uploaded...
[11:00] <ScottK> The package I am after getting into Feisty is mail-spf-perl http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3976.  It's a new package that's not in Debian yet.
[11:00] <ScottK> Unfortunately, due to dependencies, it needed two more:
[11:01] <ScottK> libnet-dns-resolver-programmable-perl http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3974 is another new package not yet in Debian.
[11:01] <ScottK> libnetaddr-ip-perl http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3975 is in Debian, but very old.
[11:02] <ScottK> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=329644
[11:02] <Ubugtu> Debian bug 329644 in libnetaddr-ip-perl "libnetaddr-ip-perl: New upstream release" [Wishlist,Open]  
[11:02] <theCore> is there MOTUs who would like relax and play to my weekly trivia? 
[11:03] <ScottK> mail-spf-perl absolutely needs libnetaddr-ip-perl 4 to work.
[11:04] <ScottK> So, if there are any MOTUs available to have a look, I would really appreciate a REVU.
[11:14] <Fujitsu> Morning, Ubuntu-land.
[11:15] <Adri2000> hi Fujitsu 
[11:15] <Fujitsu> Hi Adri2000.
[11:18] <Lutin> heya Toadstool
[11:18] <Toadstool> hey Lutin 
[11:18] <Lutin> how are you ?
[11:18] <Toadstool> i'm ok, you?
[11:19] <Lutin> hehe, fine too
[11:21] <Lutin> Toadstool: unfortunately back to school on monday ^^
[11:21] <Toadstool> Lutin: I took a look at your package yesterday evening and the upstream tarball is really messy, I don't feel comfortable with advocating/uploading it :/
[11:21] <Lutin> Toadstool: what kind of mess ?
[11:22] <Toadstool> like the file permissions, the svn temporary files all around, and so on.
[11:24] <Lutin> Toadstool: yeah, file perms are crappy in the src tarball
[11:24] <Lutin> Toadstool: I'll bug the upstream author about it
[11:25] <Toadstool> great :)
[11:26] <Lutin> Toadstool: yeah, this svn file is weird too. it's the only one in the source ...
[11:28] <Toadstool> Lutin: i am at work right now, kinda busy. can we talk about it tomorrow (or tonight if you're still awake :)?
[11:29] <Lutin> Toadstool: of course, np :)
[11:49] <bddebian> Later gang
[11:49] <Nafallo> !info bum
[11:49] <ubotu> bum: graphical runlevel editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.7-1 (edgy), package size 80 kB, installed size 524 kB
[12:05] <Lutin> someone know if there's a way to have public-key authentication on bzr.debian.org ? (I know wrong chan but I think a bunch of people there is working on debian too )