[12:27] sistpoty: ok... what happens-next to bug 77485 ? There are more than 3 "+1" given.... [12:27] Malone bug 77485 in qpsmtpd "[SRU] request: edgy:qpsmtpd fix for bug #72602" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77485 [12:27] enyc: get it uploaded and subscribe ubuntu-archive === plugwash [n=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] sistpoty: erm how do I do that // where is this documented? ;-) [12:28] enyc: do you need a sponsor? [12:28] sistpoty: I dont know! [12:29] enyc: are you a motu yet? [12:29] *g* [12:29] sistpoty: no! [12:29] sistpoty: Im confused ;-) [12:29] enyc: then you need a sponsor who'll upload the package for you [12:29] enyc: usual procedure is to subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors or ping a motu of your choice [12:29] enyc: but I can do the upload [12:29] sistpoty: umm err arr oh... I thought that was for updating fiesty.... [12:30] sistpoty: I didnt see mention of sponsors in SRU process [12:30] enyc: any motu can to upload any -proposed or -updates pocket as well [12:31] sistpoty: dont understand 'pocket' there [12:32] enyc: feisty, edgy, dapper and so on are distributions... edgy-updates, edgy-proposed, dapper-updates and so on are pockets of that distribution [12:32] enyc: it's just a naming convention [12:33] sistpoty: right... so somewhere things get put for updates or proposed-updates [12:33] sistpoty: is 'security' a pocket too ? [12:33] enyc: yes... the distribution field in debian/changelog will determine the distribution and the pocket [12:33] enyc: yes [12:33] aaah I see [12:33] enyc: at least I think these are called pockets, maybe they have yet another name *g* [12:34] edgy-proposed [12:34] heh [12:34] ok === agent_ [n=agent@pool-71-120-187-51.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:34] right.... [12:35] hrrm well upload the debdiff'ed package to proposed for 77485 please ;-) ... Presumably you should not do this for 78005 until there are more +1's === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:36] enyc: on it ;) === neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp128-80.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:41] enyc: uploaded, now please subscribe ubuntu-archive === tonyyserver [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jrib [n=jasonr@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:48] sistpoty: done... [12:51] argh! [12:51] pbuilder is dead [12:51] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/502/ [12:51] :( [12:55] how have you called pbuilder? === Pricey [n=PriceChi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pricey [n=PriceChi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:12] geser, sudo pbuilder build somalist_0.1_source.changes [01:13] try again with the .dsc [01:13] ah ok [01:13] pbuilder build [options] .dsc-file === tsmithe is tired ;) [01:14] thanks === acacs [n=acacs@201.32.148.63] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:33] hey [01:35] sistpoty: thankyou btw ;-) [01:35] np [01:35] hi zul [01:36] hey sistpoty how goes it? [01:36] zul: so far so good... just writing my diploma thesis :/ [01:36] zul: how about you? [01:41] sistpoty: ok i guess just fixing some things [01:51] xerxas: yes? === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@124.106.135.69] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] is someone here using gchemutils? [02:44] I updated the package to gchemutils 0.7.4 and need someone to test them [02:44] url? [02:45] I doing a last pbuilder run and will put it then on a webspace [02:45] ok. [02:45] are amd64 packages ok for you? [02:46] pentium 233 here, so no. Sorry. [02:46] I'll gladly take the source packages and pbuild on a remote host. === mwolson [i=mwolson@pool-71-115-60-210.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:47] crimsun: 233MHz... are you kidding me? :-) [02:48] public university in a state that doesn't really value education...'nuff said [02:48] indeed === somerville32 runs a 333mhz === Nafallo sits on 1.6GHz atm [02:49] Sysinfo for 'sarah': Linux 2.6.20-3-generic running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: GenuineIntel(R)CPUT2250@1.73GHz at 800 MHz (3459 bogomips), , RAM: 816/1510MB, 141 proc's, 35.54min up === Hobbsee watches all your computers crumble into the dust :P [02:51] crimsun: http://members.ping.de/~mb/gchemutils/ [02:51] geser: thanks [02:51] I needed to update to 0.7.4 because 0.6.3 needs an older libgoffice [02:52] the Debian packages use other package names than the current Ubuntu ones [02:52] I hope to get the conflict/replaces right === mwolson [i=mwolson@pool-71-115-60-210.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:02] crimsun: I brought up the xchat thing in #ubuntu-devel today [03:03] somerville32: what was the consensus? [03:03] crimsun; A few people commented. Mdke wonders why we can't just have both. [03:04] it wouldn't make sense to me to have both xchat-gnome and xchat in main, really [03:04] ubuntu / xubuntu? [03:04] the latter has superceded the former [03:04] what does x-g offer that x doesn't? [03:05] use of libnotify apparently [03:05] better integration with gnome [03:05] hmph. [03:05] Which is really non-applicable to Xubuntu since we refuse to pull in gnome libs :) === Nafallo use xchat though ;-) [03:05] me too [03:06] I'm still an irssi user despite sinning with xchat* and konversation. [03:06] my current setup is screen irssi + proxy on the server and connecting to it with xchat :-) [03:06] I used to like konversation but xchat is a lot faster === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:11] Heya gang [03:11] wb bddebian [03:11] Thx sistpoty [03:20] hmm, it would nice if geser provided a transition package for gchemutils -> gcu-bin [03:23] It'd be nice if I had a brain too [03:24] who borrowed it? [03:27] Never had one :-( [03:27] that doesn't bode well for us mere mortals :p [03:28] lol [03:28] Yeah right, I can't even review a package properly apparently :) [03:29] Thats ok [03:30] I can't seem to even make a proper python package :P [03:32] heh === Hobbsee|Remote [n=user@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar is now known as jaldhar === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.120.43] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.159.143] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-145-139.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] hi people [04:19] Heya LaserJock [04:20] hmm [04:20] can someone explain where LugRadio got that "BEARD!" from? :-) [04:20] hi LaserJock === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.159.143] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:21] sistpoty: what are you doing up? [04:21] and hi [04:21] LaserJock: well, I'm about to go to bed... just building one last package and writing a little bit code for my thesis *g* [04:22] oh, nice de.archive.ubuntu.com is down. ok, package building finished *g* [04:23] sistpoty: we are in the same timezone IIRC ;-) === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.159.143] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:23] utc +1 [04:23] yepp :-) [04:23] hehe [04:31] hmm [04:31] so when I try to open up firefox on a remote machine via X forwarding it opens on the local machine [04:32] Uhm, that's what x-forwarding does d00d :-) [04:32] Or do you mean it opens a local copy of FireFox? [04:32] he wants the other non-forwarding X forwarding. =) [04:33] crimsun: ROTFL [04:33] we need a quotebot! :-D [04:33] as long as it's capable of displaying pr0n :P [04:34] heh [04:34] should I file a bug? ;-) === rpereira [n=rpereira@20158138246.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:36] sistpoty: the bot must display pr0n? ;-) [04:36] Nafallo: no, firefox [04:36] *g* [04:36] so the bot must display firefox? :-P [04:36] this becomes more and more complicated ;-) [04:36] aaaaaaaAAAAAaaaaaaaAAA [04:36] *g* [04:37] I would even write http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/AAAAAAAAA === Nafallo laughs so he have to close his eyes === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-109-248.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:39] bddebian: no, I it opens a local copy [04:40] so I just vnc'd in and ran firefox [04:41] LaserJock: maybe it thought that you where stupid that wanted to run an app that existed locally remotely and larted you :-) [04:42] it's actually kinda disturbing in a wy [04:42] *way [04:42] I can imagine... not every day you get larted by your own computer :-) [04:43] heh, happens more often then I'd like to admit ;-) [04:43] ;-) === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu__ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-145-139.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:05] LaserJock: I know the feeling man.. :-) === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty goes to bed [05:29] gn8 everyone [05:29] Gnight sistpoty === rob [i=RobertSt@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyHat [n=david@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-014-123.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === harrisony [n=Harrison@unaffiliated/harrisony] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayday_jay [n=maydayja@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.105.152.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayday_jay [n=maydayja@maydayjay.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:49] ajmitch: you up? [06:49] (that's a contentless ping) [06:50] it sure is :-) [06:50] well, virtually [06:51] I'm trying to figure out if he uploaded an SRU for me [06:51] which? [06:52] python-imaging for Main [06:53] got a bug #? [06:55] bug 75021 [06:55] Malone bug 75021 in python-imaging "SRU: python-imaging missing dependencies (edgy)" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75021 [06:58] LaserJock: according to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-proposed/main/source/Sources.gz, no it hasn't. [06:58] but since I can't see the unapproved queue I don't know if it's uploaded or not === Fujitsu yawns. [06:58] well, I know it's not in -proposed yet [06:58] Afternoon, everyone. [06:59] LaserJock: normally people paste the _source.changes file upon upload [06:59] heh, normally [06:59] if it was via email that would make sense [06:59] but I just pinged him real quick on irc [07:00] anyway, I'll just bug him when he's around, I imagine he's still on vacation === dous [n=dous@124.105.152.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:01] did you ask him specifically to upload? [07:02] if so, it would have been better to subscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mikhail^ [n=dean@58.69.169.132] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:19] crimsun: well, I'll remember that next time ;-) [07:20] it's been a while since I needed anything sponsored === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-2fbbe5bb8ad2f19b] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-145-139.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1_ [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-556a0d677b403071] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.105.152.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth` [n=amaranth@ip72-198-200-109.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth` [n=amaranth@70.85.29.100] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@70.85.29.100] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu__ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-129-133.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === psusi [n=chatzill@user-0c6s9l3.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@70.85.29.100] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:19] sorry, setting something up === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === khaeru [n=khaeru@CPE0007e9c486a5-CM00003945e462.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:37] Hullo? === khaeru whistles [08:42] ... === Fujitsu whistles back. [08:46] Yay [08:46] There *is* life in space [08:47] I have a question [08:47] A little, but not a whole lot at this time. [08:47] Go ahead. [08:47] I started using mpd (music player daemon) recently [08:47] There are zillions of clients [08:47] http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Clients [08:48] pygmy is in universe [08:48] I use it too :) [08:48] But it doesn't seem to be maintained any longer [08:48] http://pygmy.berlios.de/ last release seems to have been in March === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:48] OK, that's not tooooo long. [08:49] True [08:49] Hm, let me see if I can find the exact text [08:49] It's been forked to something called 'sonata' [08:49] Which is under more active development [08:49] Aha, OK. [08:49] http://sonata.berlios.de/ [08:51] Still browsing history for the message [08:51] Anyway, I don't know who to bug about getting pygmy removed (which I guess doesn't matter) and sonata added [08:52] pygmy won't likely be removed for a long time (there's no real reason to remove it, yet) [08:52] I'll check if anybody is working on sonata packages in Debian. If not, I'll take a look at doing it. [08:52] Indeed, it's already in Debian. [08:53] Ah, delicious === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.14] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:53] Which makes it easier to bring to Ubuntu (I assume?) [08:53] Yes. [08:53] I'll put in a sync request for it after I come back from locating food. [08:53] Sounds like a good idea... afk === lucas [n=lucas@vds233.sivit.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:00] Glorious cheese [09:00] Thanks for your help, Fujitsu [09:00] Good first experience in the #ubuntu* channels! === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.14] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@vds233.sivit.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.105.152.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seeker` [n=cjo20@ip-62-105-182-26.dsl.twang.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks_ [n=ivoks@18-47.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:56] hmm, Christer Edwards is requesting for alltray to be included in feisty. It seems to be on REVU now === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.105.152.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-44f846328ddf07cf] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-c1a4e455564afb6e] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@63.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@vc-196-207-32-235.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1_ [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-007ac0c989ce2d72] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@ip5650d1ab.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-fd4b919222f1e244] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin [n=ubuntu@lns-bzn-54-82-251-106-50.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-7-62.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-97-229.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas_ [n=r67894@AGrenoble-257-1-63-73.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:08] If a MOTU read this message, can he review 2 packages : ccd2iso ( http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3795 ), and encadre-image ( http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3872 ), thank you very much === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-251-53-3.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === harrisony [n=Harrison@unaffiliated/harrisony] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:15] see, you have to embrace the grue in soyuz. [11:16] it makes things much more lively, because you never know how many times you'll need to upload source packages. [11:16] crimsun: hah. i think you wanted that in -devel, too [11:16] my record is 4 [11:16] no, it's a bit off-topic for devel ;) [11:16] or off-colour, perhaps [11:17] haha [11:17] well... === harrisony [n=Harrison@unaffiliated/harrisony] has left #ubuntu-motu ["SHINY!!!!!!!"] === Fujitsu hugs poort soyuz.... then throws it off a cliff. [11:18] dak for ever! [11:18] *poor [11:18] hehe === Gervystar [n=alessand@host52-173-static.120-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feb6fb00-217.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === harrisony [n=Harrison@unaffiliated/harrisony] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:25] Hobbsee: can you confirm bug 78058 please, it builds fine in a feisty pbuilder [11:25] Malone bug 78058 in dvd-slideshow "Please sync dvd-slideshow (multiverse) from debian-multimedia" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78058 === harrisony [n=Harrison@unaffiliated/harrisony] has left #ubuntu-motu ["SHINY!!!!!!!"] === superm1 is now known as superm1_away [11:34] Hobbsee: do you have time for another look at the 'om' merge request? [11:35] tepsipakki: it's tagged as "todo" in my inbox. [11:35] nice === Hobbsee could be persuaded to do it now, however [11:35] moins all [11:35] Hobbsee: pleeease :) [11:35] no rush, honest [11:36] Hi imbrandon. [11:36] tepsipakki: do you have a diff between the latest debian and latest ubuntu, please? === daya [n=daya@202.79.37.177] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:37] latest ubuntu being the on we have now? [11:37] +e [11:37] the one you want to upload, sorry [11:37] Hey imbrandon. [11:37] well, that's it, basically [11:37] hey TheMuso [11:37] Hey Hobbsee. [11:37] let me check [11:37] tepsipakki: that appears to be between the current ubuntu and current debian [11:38] Hobbsee: how so? [11:38] diff -u om-0.2.0/debian/changelog om-0.2.0/debian/changelog [11:38] --- om-0.2.0/debian/changelog [11:38] +++ om-0.2.0/debian/changelog [11:38] @@ -1,5 +1,38 @@ [11:38] -om (0.2.0-0ubuntu1) dapper; urgency=low [11:38] +om (0.2.0-2ubuntu1) unstable; urgency=low [11:39] Bah! There goes that idea of using a feisty daily image. [11:39] well, I ditched the old ubuntu version [11:39] alternative CD. [11:39] but maybe there should be feisty instead of unstable? [11:40] tepsipakki: you should be diffing against unstable and feisty [11:40] well, that's the one i'm asking for, anyway :P === TheMuso can't wait till he has a quota free Ubuntu mirror again. [11:41] :) [11:41] Hobbsee: oh, now I get it [11:41] TheMuso, where'd your old one go? [11:42] Hobbsee: the diff will be much smaller, of course :) [11:42] Fujitsu: Twas mirror.pacific.net.au, but WestNet decided to no longer make pipe data quota free. [11:42] Yeah, I noticed that at work :( [11:42] But their sponsored 3fl mirror is getting Ubuntu later this month, which is quota free for WestNet. [11:42] Is it? [11:42] Yay! [11:42] Damn right. [11:43] I knew they were going to get Debian. [11:43] You don't realise what you've got till its gone. [11:43] A full mirror, or just releases.? [11:43] tepsipakki: yes :) [11:43] Fujitsu: An apt repository. [11:43] Ah, good. [11:43] Yeah. [11:43] I checked the forums a couple of days back; didn't see any mention of Ubuntu. [11:44] Just waiting for pbuilder to fetch packages for a merge, 25 MB all up. [11:44] Fujitsu: Which forums? [11:44] The 3FL ones. [11:44] Ah. [11:44] Well I emailed them the other day. [11:45] We are planning to add the Ubuntu archive once we expand our mirror disk [11:45] space later this month. We will update the news on the mirror page and [11:45] in our forum when we have it mirrored. [11:45] :D [11:45] Yeah. [11:45] I wonder how frequently they'll update, though... [11:45] Same. [11:45] every 6 hours would be the normal for a ubuntu mirror [11:45] Well I know the gentoo mirror is regularly updated. [11:46] imbrandon: Note that this is an Australian ISP, which has just revoked free PIPE access.... Normal doesn't apply here. [11:46] haha yea [11:47] Admittedly, I'm on Optus, with no free traffic at all. === TheMuso will likely switch to Internode when he moves. [11:47] Hobbsee: ok, the new debdiff attached [11:47] tepsipakki: yay :0 [11:47] Fujitsu: When I had quota free mirror access, I loved just using a mini netinstall CD for installs. Twas so quick and easy. [11:48] tepsipakki: got the URL please? [11:48] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/om/+bug/76716 [11:48] Malone bug 76716 in om "Please sponsor om upload" [Undecided,Needs info] [11:48] TheMuso, I do that anyway, though off-peak. [11:48] Fujitsu: Lucky you. [11:48] 12/24 is good. [11:48] I have almost used all off-peak here with feisty CD rsyncs. [11:48] thanks [11:50] ah sweet. Its compiling now. === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee fixes, and builds [11:56] tepsipakki: done === tepsipakki hugs Hobbsee gently [12:02] tepsipakki: She is not always gentle when dealing with others, so don't be lulled into a false sense of security. :) === ivoks [n=ivoks@18-47.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:06] :) === Hobbsee does hug people :) === Fujitsu hasn't seen much of the pointy stick lately. 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[03:49] hay! [03:51] <_Enchained> TeknoMatik: read the topic ;) ? [03:53] in #ubuntu-devel turn me to here [03:53] <_MMA_> READ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU [03:54] Me need other chanel??? [03:55] sorry :( === hub [n=hub@moodiegate.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TeknoMatik [n=Miranda@82.200.251.121] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.173.92] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feb6fb00-217.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:32] <_Enchained> A motu to take a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3969 ? (alltray) [04:33] Fujitsu: vnc4 doesn't build on edgy/feisty. did you test the debdiffs you made? (Dapper is currently building for me) === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-087-94-053-172.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-132d6dced6424d0a] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === savek [n=savek@unaffiliated/savek] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:57] hi === savek [n=savek@unaffiliated/savek] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:02] why is not firefox 2.0 backported to dapper ? one of the reason being it an LTS. === schultmc_ [i=schultmc@nat/progeny/x-f1c64f1248345383] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:04] why should it be? [05:04] i am updating my firefox in dapper.. still it is in firefox 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.9-0ubuntu0.6.06 [05:04] Nafallo: one main reason -- it is an LTS.. lot of ppl will be there for sometime [05:05] cypher1: not a reason :-) [05:05] cypher1: a reason not to upgrade to 2.0 though... [05:05] Nafallo: why not upgrade to 2.0 ? [05:06] cypher1: it's probably a lot of new code, breakes ABI and isn't tested as well as the 1.5-series. [05:06] new code = new bugs [05:07] Nafallo: sorry what is ABI ? [05:07] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_Binary_Interface [05:08] Nafallo: is it the fear of new bugs that we are not putting it in dapper ?? [05:08] Nafallo: thanks for the link [05:08] yes and there ir probably a bunch of libraries as well that is affected by firefox [05:09] If a MOTU read this message, can he review 2 packages please : ccd2iso ( http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3795 ), and encadre-image ( http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3872 ), thank you very much [05:09] dapper is frozen and released for ages... we won't be adding non-trivial stuff unless we can't avoid it. [05:09] Nafallo: even though it is termed as LTS ? [05:10] Nafallo: sorry does LTS not cover availability of new versions ? [05:10] cypher1: Long Time Support is just yet another reason to not break it in half after release :-) [05:11] Nafallo: sorry does LTS not cover availability of new versions ? [05:11] no. it covers security and grave bugs. [05:11] or rather fixes for those... [05:12] Nafallo: ok.. so if one wants new features and versions they have to leave LTS and go to upper releases [05:12] yea. like the current devel-release that sometimes DO break your systems in half :-). === wwwildwilly [n=wwwildwi@c-67-191-143-174.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:14] Nafallo: i agree..but still i am little upset.. especially i guess when higher versions of products like FF which is used by almost all is not backported [05:15] there was a backport of that product when that team was new. peoples desktops broke hard :-P === wwwildwilly [n=wwwildwi@c-67-191-143-174.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:15] cypher1: you could always download the binary from mozilla [05:16] Nafallo: oh..ok [05:16] zul: thanks will do [05:16] Nafallo: zul thanks for your times.. i am little clear now [05:17] cypher1, how would you guarantee you dont intorduce new grave bugs if you upgrade to 2.0 ? ubuntu simply cant provde such a service with 16people in the distro team ... if you can mobilize more manpower for the backports team that could change ;) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:17] ogra: :) [05:17] ogra: definitely i can volunteer.. not sure of others though :D === _Enchained [n=cyrille@88.166.169.102] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:18] ogra: we could work you to death, like the slaves on the roman galleys with the drums [05:18] haha [05:18] :) [05:18] Heya gang [05:18] hi bddebian [05:18] hi bddebian *hug* [05:18] Heya cypher1, Nafallo [05:19] ogra: heh back in line maggots ;) === Nafallo looks at zul cracking that whip :-) [05:23] bye all === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=PriceChi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:33] thanks for fixing basket Adri2000 [05:36] no problem :) === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-7-62.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:38] Adri2000: if you have any questions about KDE packages #kubuntu-devel is always a good channel === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-129-133.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:40] okay === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:51] before I start to follow the SRU procedure, is there actually any chance that the fix, for the bug 57951, could be accepted? [05:51] Malone bug 57951 in xchat "xchat crashes frequently on quit" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57951 [05:52] it is not really a high-impact bug, but just a really annoying bug for many users [06:05] hmm [06:07] theCore: as the changes are really small, you should have a good chance (but motu-sru can see it otherwise) [06:07] Heya Toadstool, how are you doing ? [06:07] geser: thanks === qhartman [n=qhartman@12.111.169.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === awbassett [n=awbasset@206.135.97.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.159.86] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-129-133.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:27] Hello All [06:28] Hi joejaxx [06:29] AstralJava: LOL === jpatrick [n=patrick@208.Red-88-14-82.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:39] <_Enchained> Hi [06:39] _Enchained: hello [06:39] <_Enchained> bddebian: I've updated alltray and dvd95 on REVU if you want to look at... (or someone else...) [06:42] i have a doubt regarding merge/sync === PriceChild [n=PriceChi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:43] the extracted source directory we get when we use grab-merge.sh, is it the latest debian source or latest ubuntu source ? === fowlduck [n=nate@198.150.12.33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:44] cypher1: the merged source [06:44] merged by MoM [06:44] so you'll need to check that everything is ok and to fix conflicts if any [06:45] _Enchained: OK [06:45] Adri2000, so then what is the purpose of running merge-buildpackage ? [06:45] <_Enchained> bddebian: (I will just clean a bit the rules on alltray, like gpocentek said...) [06:46] cypher1: where have you seen that? [06:47] cypher1: the main interest (for me) is that it generates a correct source.changes [06:47] Adri2000, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/Merging-and-Syncing [06:47] Adri2000, Step Six [06:48] hello BTW [06:48] cypher1: ah yes, I don't use that [06:49] cypher1: merge-buildpackage runs dpkg-buildpackage -S which creates the source package [06:49] (I use debuild -S for that) [06:49] what's important is to specify the latest ubuntu version [06:49] with -v [06:50] to have a correct .changes file === vil [n=vladimir@catv-tisnov-86.selfnet.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:50] Adri2000, but why do one need .changes, since we just upload a debdiff ? [06:51] cypher1: MOTUs dput the .changes, so it must be correct, if your upload is sponsored by a MOTU, no it's not really important since the MOTU will regenerate the .changes file [06:51] motus dont upload debdiffs, they upload the fixed packge, motu wannabees upload debdiffs ;) [06:53] Adri2000, ogra thanks :).. i really look forward to the tutorials to provide more insight into what and why one is doing something :) [06:56] <_Enchained> bddebian: alltray is updated at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3973 ;) === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === harrisony [n=Harrison@unaffiliated/harrisony] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1_away is now known as superm1 === harrisony [n=Harrison@unaffiliated/harrisony] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3_ [n=marc@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:20] sorry i forgot, whom should i subscribe to a merge/sync request ? === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:20] Heya LaserJock [07:21] cypher1: If you are an MOTU, Ubuntu Archive. If not, Ubuntu Universe Sponsors [07:21] hi bddebian [07:22] bddebian: can you get to google.com ? [07:23] bddebian, it says hobbsee.kubuntu@gmail.com [07:23] cypher1: probably Hobbsee|NotHere 's [07:24] LaserJock: Yep [07:25] can anyone please have a look at bug #78102 [07:25] Malone bug 78102 in libflash "[Merge Request] libflash 0.4.13-9 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78102 === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:33] Adri2000, i need to run merge-buldpackage [07:33] Adri2000, sorry ignore that === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:37] hmm [07:37] hmm [07:38] well, my computer doesn't want to connect to google [07:38] <_Enchained> LaserJock: only google? [07:39] in fact only www.google.com [07:39]