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| vil | doko: ping | 09:50 |
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| doko | vil:pong | 10:22 |
| vil | looking at the eclipse-cdt build traces, i found that we do not have eclipse-3.2.1 for sparc | 10:24 |
| vil | some platform dependent sources for sparc are missing in the upstream | 10:24 |
| vil | is it ok, that eclipse-cdt-3.1.1 will be missing for sparc too? | 10:25 |
| doko | vil: sure, or else fix it to build on sparc =) | 10:30 |
| vil | right, veeeery funny :) | 10:30 |
| vil | doko: ademan had also nice idea that update-java-alternatives will make eclipse use the prefered VM. i guess that the update-java-alternatives can reorder the /etc/eclipse/java_home file. | 10:35 |
| vil | do you agree? | 10:35 |
| doko | vil: I don't know what to agree to ... | 10:38 |
| vil | doko: just asking if you consider this change useful | 10:40 |
| vil | update-java-alternatives comes from java-common, which comes from main. so i can only make some diff, but the upload would be yours | 10:42 |
| doko | vil: no, we are not allowed to change the config file of another package | 10:48 |
| vil | doko: ok, so is there other way to make eclipse use JVM selected by update-java-alternatives? | 10:49 |
| doko | vil: yes, use /usr/bin/java | 10:50 |
| doko | but then you have to check that this version is not configured to point to a vm which doesn't run eclipse | 10:50 |
| vil | doko: understood | 10:52 |
| vil | maybe /usr/bin/java isn't optimal because the JVM for eclipse is specified by a -vm param rather than the java binary | 10:53 |
| vil | anyway, modifying the eclipse startup script sounds like the prefered way | 10:53 |
| vil | thx for consultation | 10:54 |
| doko | np | 10:58 |
| doko | btw, will you be at fosdem? | 10:58 |
| vil | doko: unfortunately not, i will be at a trip in the states at that time. | 11:02 |
| vil | i have seen some people discussing it at debian-java | 11:03 |
| vil | doko: still cannot build it at ia64, could you please have a look at http://librarian.launchpad.net/5619195/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-ia64.eclipse-cdt_3.1.1-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 02:02 |
| doko | vil: don't know, but that is wrong: /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java -Dgnu.gcj.precompiled.db.path=/var/lib/gcj-4.0/classmap.db -cp /usr/lib/eclipse/startup.jar \ | 02:04 |
| doko | the 4.0 | 02:04 |
| vil | doko: oops | 02:05 |
| vil | what is this classmap.db used for? | 02:05 |
| doko | it's a lookup table which binary to load for which .class file | 02:08 |
| vil | doko: i can upload yet another version fixing this but it does not seem to matter so much as i386, amd64 and powerpc builds succeeded | 02:09 |
| vil | don't you know of any ia64 machine where i could experiment with the build. that log is not really very useful | 02:10 |
| doko | vil: no, currently not | 02:12 |
| vil | doko: do you consider s/4.0/4.1 worth making yet another package version? | 02:15 |
| vil | i understand it like that it fails to find the precompiled natives only while compiling the eclipse-cdt. that can be acceptable | 02:16 |
| doko | exactly, that's not the primary failure | 02:18 |
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| vil | doko: yesterday you mentioned that we need to fix eclipse. what is the problem? | 03:38 |
| doko | vil: it's the outstanding SRU, uploaded today. | 03:39 |
| vil | doko: i give up, didn't find it anywhere. where was it uploaded? | 03:53 |
| doko | vil: oh, it's still in the queue, needs manual approval | 03:54 |
| vil | doko: ok, will check that later. there is a long waiting problem with subclipse / subversion in eclipse. don't you know anything about it? | 03:55 |
| doko | sorry, no | 03:57 |
| vil | doko: and finally | 03:58 |
| vil | can update-java-alternatives set JAVA_HOME system-wide? | 03:59 |
| doko | no | 03:59 |
| vil | JAVA_HOME is a common java variable and is utilized by plenty of others apps | 03:59 |
| doko | no debian application should rely on environment variables | 04:00 |
| vil | doko: this channel is called #ubuntu-java ;) | 04:00 |
| vil | np, i will find something else | 04:00 |
| doko | maybe, but adding something like this makes packages very incompatible ... | 04:01 |
| vil | doko: back to the eclipse and jvm | 09:01 |
| vil | do we need to check if the jvm is eclipse compatible? | 09:01 |
| vil | can the /usr/bin/java be set to a jvm that cannot run eclipse? | 09:08 |
| doko | kaffe, cacao, sablevm? | 09:10 |
| vil | honestly, i don't know them | 09:13 |
| vil | i was just wondering, if we can get rid of all the -vm -install -startup paramters in the /usr/bin/eclipse script | 09:14 |
| vil | doko: does any of kaffe, cacao, sablevm a record in the java-alternatives? | 09:17 |
| vil | in any case -install -startup seem redundant to me | 09:18 |
| doko | yes, they provide alternatives | 09:18 |
| vil | doko: i just tried to install sablevm and kaffe packages and the only alternatives i get are gcj and sun | 09:19 |
| doko | update-alternatives, not update-java-alternatives | 09:20 |
| vil | doko: ok, get it, we could check if /usr/bin/java is listed in /etc/eclipse/java_home | 09:24 |
| vil | btw. /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun is still not listed there | 09:24 |
| doko | vil: I didn't do an upload after the sun-java6 upload ;p | 09:26 |
| vil | doko: i will give you rest for today. have a nice evening | 09:35 |
| doko | heh, np | 09:35 |
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