=== Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-java === lotfi [n=lotfi@81.22.86.36] has joined #ubuntu-java === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-126-173.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-java === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-java === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-java [09:50] doko: ping [10:22] vil:pong [10:24] looking at the eclipse-cdt build traces, i found that we do not have eclipse-3.2.1 for sparc [10:24] some platform dependent sources for sparc are missing in the upstream [10:25] is it ok, that eclipse-cdt-3.1.1 will be missing for sparc too? [10:30] vil: sure, or else fix it to build on sparc =) [10:30] right, veeeery funny :) [10:35] doko: ademan had also nice idea that update-java-alternatives will make eclipse use the prefered VM. i guess that the update-java-alternatives can reorder the /etc/eclipse/java_home file. [10:35] do you agree? [10:38] vil: I don't know what to agree to ... [10:40] doko: just asking if you consider this change useful [10:42] update-java-alternatives comes from java-common, which comes from main. so i can only make some diff, but the upload would be yours [10:48] vil: no, we are not allowed to change the config file of another package [10:49] doko: ok, so is there other way to make eclipse use JVM selected by update-java-alternatives? [10:50] vil: yes, use /usr/bin/java [10:50] but then you have to check that this version is not configured to point to a vm which doesn't run eclipse [10:52] doko: understood [10:53] maybe /usr/bin/java isn't optimal because the JVM for eclipse is specified by a -vm param rather than the java binary [10:53] anyway, modifying the eclipse startup script sounds like the prefered way [10:54] thx for consultation [10:58] np [10:58] btw, will you be at fosdem? [11:02] doko: unfortunately not, i will be at a trip in the states at that time. [11:03] i have seen some people discussing it at debian-java [02:02] doko: still cannot build it at ia64, could you please have a look at http://librarian.launchpad.net/5619195/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-ia64.eclipse-cdt_3.1.1-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [02:04] vil: don't know, but that is wrong: /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java -Dgnu.gcj.precompiled.db.path=/var/lib/gcj-4.0/classmap.db -cp /usr/lib/eclipse/startup.jar \ [02:04] the 4.0 [02:05] doko: oops [02:05] what is this classmap.db used for? [02:08] it's a lookup table which binary to load for which .class file [02:09] doko: i can upload yet another version fixing this but it does not seem to matter so much as i386, amd64 and powerpc builds succeeded [02:10] don't you know of any ia64 machine where i could experiment with the build. that log is not really very useful [02:12] vil: no, currently not [02:15] doko: do you consider s/4.0/4.1 worth making yet another package version? [02:16] i understand it like that it fails to find the precompiled natives only while compiling the eclipse-cdt. that can be acceptable [02:18] exactly, that's not the primary failure === mattions [n=mattions@host146-21-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-java [03:38] doko: yesterday you mentioned that we need to fix eclipse. what is the problem? [03:39] vil: it's the outstanding SRU, uploaded today. [03:53] doko: i give up, didn't find it anywhere. where was it uploaded? [03:54] vil: oh, it's still in the queue, needs manual approval [03:55] doko: ok, will check that later. there is a long waiting problem with subclipse / subversion in eclipse. don't you know anything about it? [03:57] sorry, no [03:58] doko: and finally [03:59] can update-java-alternatives set JAVA_HOME system-wide? [03:59] no [03:59] JAVA_HOME is a common java variable and is utilized by plenty of others apps [04:00] no debian application should rely on environment variables [04:00] doko: this channel is called #ubuntu-java ;) [04:00] np, i will find something else [04:01] maybe, but adding something like this makes packages very incompatible ... [09:01] doko: back to the eclipse and jvm [09:01] do we need to check if the jvm is eclipse compatible? [09:08] can the /usr/bin/java be set to a jvm that cannot run eclipse? [09:10] kaffe, cacao, sablevm? [09:13] honestly, i don't know them [09:14] i was just wondering, if we can get rid of all the -vm -install -startup paramters in the /usr/bin/eclipse script [09:17] doko: does any of kaffe, cacao, sablevm a record in the java-alternatives? [09:18] in any case -install -startup seem redundant to me [09:18] yes, they provide alternatives [09:19] doko: i just tried to install sablevm and kaffe packages and the only alternatives i get are gcj and sun [09:20] update-alternatives, not update-java-alternatives [09:24] doko: ok, get it, we could check if /usr/bin/java is listed in /etc/eclipse/java_home [09:24] btw. /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun is still not listed there [09:26] vil: I didn't do an upload after the sun-java6 upload ;p [09:35] doko: i will give you rest for today. have a nice evening [09:35] heh, np