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| geser | crimsun: hello | 01:16 |
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| geser | have you had time to test the new gnome-chemisty-utils packages? | 01:16 |
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| Fujitsu | geser, there are new ones? How was the goffice issue worked around? | 01:25 |
| geser | Fujitsu: I had to use the development version | 01:26 |
| Fujitsu | Of g-c-u? | 01:26 |
| geser | Fujitsu: http://members.ping.de/~mb/gchemutils/ | 01:26 |
| geser | yes, g-c-u 0.7.4 | 01:26 |
| geser | I used the Debian packaging as a base | 01:27 |
| Fujitsu | So that actually works? I thought it might. | 01:27 |
| Fujitsu | How much work was it? | 01:27 |
| LaserJock | well | 01:27 |
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| LaserJock | what is Debian using? | 01:27 |
| LaserJock | it's probably 0.6.3 | 01:27 |
| Fujitsu | Yep, it is. | 01:27 |
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| Fujitsu | gnome-chemistry-utils 0.6.3-3 0.4.1-0dl2ubuntu3 | 01:28 |
| Fujitsu | (Sid, Feisty versions respectively) | 01:28 |
| geser | Fujitsu: not that much work after I figured out that the goffice problem is fixed in 0.7.x | 01:28 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 01:28 |
| geser | I had to rename the lib package from libgcu0 to libgcu-unstable0 | 01:28 |
| Fujitsu | Is the development branch stable enough? | 01:28 |
| LaserJock | it's just that that is not stable software | 01:28 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 01:28 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock, like gnumeric. | 01:28 |
| geser | and add the files for gcrystal to gcu-bin | 01:28 |
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| LaserJock | geser: gcrystal wasn't going into gcu-bin? | 01:29 |
| geser | not in the Debian packaging | 01:29 |
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| LaserJock | well | 01:30 |
| geser | I added the files to gcu-bin | 01:30 |
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| rexbron | hey, what is the policy on packagine a shell script? | 01:30 |
| LaserJock | we're probably going to release gchemutils 0.8 in mid Feb to early March | 01:30 |
| LaserJock | rexbron: you need a policy for that? :-) | 01:30 |
| rexbron | are there any docs that tell you what you have to do differently | 01:30 |
| geser | before I upload it to feisty I wanted someone to test the package | 01:31 |
| geser | I did a small test today but I'm not using it normally | 01:31 |
| LaserJock | geser: I'm a tad hesitant to have it in | 01:31 |
| LaserJock | but I can test it | 01:31 |
| geser | LaserJock: the current g-c-u in feisty has unmet deps | 01:32 |
| LaserJock | we can always use it as a placeholder/fallback if I can't get UVFes for goffice and gchemutils | 01:32 |
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| Fujitsu | LaserJock, haven't we already got the requisite goffice? | 01:32 |
| LaserJock | also unstable | 01:32 |
| Fujitsu | Ah, true. | 01:32 |
| rexbron | LaserJock: Is there any documentation? | 01:33 |
| LaserJock | we'll have stable goffice, gchemutils, and hopefully gchempaint at the time of 2.18's release | 01:33 |
| LaserJock | rexbron: there's nothing special to do | 01:33 |
| rexbron | hmm | 01:33 |
| LaserJock | on the good side, gchemutils will be on an "Ubuntu friendly" schedule after that ;-) | 01:34 |
| rexbron | LaserJock: I am calling the provided install script for the files. It goes into /usr/bin and /usr/share but the script need root privialges | 01:34 |
| rexbron | *needs | 01:34 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock, finally :) | 01:34 |
| === Fujitsu notes we have 20 syncable science packages already. | ||
| LaserJock | well, Ubuntu hadn't skipped ahead with goffice we'd be fine | 01:35 |
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| Fujitsu | But gnumeric is in main, so takes priority... | 01:35 |
| LaserJock | well, considering how many bugs we've gotten from using the latest crack there ... | 01:35 |
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| Fujitsu | Yeah. | 01:36 |
| bddebian | Heya sistpoty | 01:36 |
| sistpoty | hi folks | 01:36 |
| sistpoty | hi bddebian | 01:36 |
| LaserJock | hi sistpoty | 01:36 |
| Fujitsu | (though it does have quite a number of nice features) | 01:36 |
| sistpoty | hi LaserJock | 01:36 |
| LaserJock | yep | 01:36 |
| Fujitsu | Hi sistpoty. | 01:36 |
| sistpoty | and hi Fujitsu | 01:36 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: the gchemutils author also works quite a bit on goffice/gnumeric | 01:36 |
| LaserJock | he's pretty cool | 01:36 |
| geser | LaserJock: so how should we proceed with g-c-u? | 01:37 |
| geser | fix the current unmet deps? | 01:37 |
| LaserJock | geser: well, gimme your package | 01:37 |
| LaserJock | I'll test it and talk it over with the author | 01:37 |
| geser | http://members.ping.de/~mb/gchemutils/ | 01:37 |
| LaserJock | he was previously wary of putting 0.7 in any repos | 01:37 |
| geser | if you need i386 you have to run it through a pbuilder | 01:37 |
| LaserJock | as it's still unstable software | 01:37 |
| LaserJock | shesh, and I'm fresh out of amd64 ;-) | 01:38 |
| geser | g-c-u 0.6 depends on libgoffice-1 which isn't in Ubuntu anymore | 01:38 |
| LaserJock | I'm very aware of that :-) | 01:39 |
| LaserJock | I was planning on putting libgoffice-1 back in | 01:39 |
| LaserJock | but I think it's not worth it for one package | 01:39 |
| LaserJock | I think we're better off with 0.7 or hopefully 0.8 | 01:40 |
| geser | btw gchempaint waits on libgcu-dev | 01:40 |
| LaserJock | besides, 0.7 has some of my code in it | 01:40 |
| LaserJock | I can't let that not be in the repos ;-) | 01:40 |
| LaserJock | geser: what version of gchempaint is it? | 01:41 |
| geser | gchempaint 0.6.6-2 | 01:41 |
| LaserJock | well, we need to do something with gchemutils anyway, our version is almost 2 years old | 01:47 |
| LaserJock | we should also package up bodr too | 01:48 |
| Fujitsu | What's bodr? | 01:50 |
| LaserJock | Blue Obelisk Data Repository | 01:52 |
| LaserJock | it's a repo of chemical data | 01:53 |
| LaserJock | it's fairly new | 01:53 |
| LaserJock | but a fair amount of chemistry packages are starting to use it | 01:53 |
| LaserJock | including Kalzium and gchemutils | 01:53 |
| Fujitsu | OK. | 01:55 |
| Fujitsu | No Debian package/ITP? | 01:55 |
| LaserJock | there was one in the works | 01:55 |
| LaserJock | Daniel Leidert was working on it | 01:56 |
| Fujitsu | But is no longer? | 01:58 |
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| LaserJock | Fujitsu: well, I think there was a snag somewhere along the line | 02:01 |
| LaserJock | geser: it seems to build and work ok | 02:01 |
| LaserJock | geser: but more needs to be done to de"unstable"ize it | 02:01 |
| LaserJock | geser: the names of the binaries have -unstable on them still | 02:02 |
| geser | do you know how to get rid of it? | 02:03 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 02:03 |
| LaserJock | it'll take a patch | 02:03 |
| LaserJock | there is a line in the .cc of each of the apps | 02:03 |
| LaserJock | geser: ok, so I think I should ask the author first before we put it in the repos (since we can't take it back later) since I know he had reservations about it before | 02:05 |
| geser | will wait on your answer | 02:05 |
| LaserJock | k | 02:05 |
| LaserJock | thanks for the work, btw | 02:06 |
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| geser | I will try to get the unstable removed without breaking it | 02:11 |
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| geser | it's also used in dir names and the lib itself :( | 02:11 |
| geser | that will make the diff larger | 02:12 |
| nixternal | any open merges that are available for a rookie to work on? | 02:13 |
| LaserJock | well, I think he has a way of doing it | 02:13 |
| LaserJock | I can ask him about that too | 02:13 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: just close your eyes and point | 02:13 |
| nixternal | doing that now | 02:14 |
| nixternal | ;p | 02:14 |
| nixternal | wait, i do that all the time, everytime i hit the keyboard | 02:14 |
| geser | nixternal: before you begin check if a sync request was filed | 02:14 |
| nixternal | yup | 02:14 |
| nixternal | and if possible i will request one as well | 02:15 |
| geser | there are several packages waiting for a sync | 02:15 |
| joejaxx | why is there not a #ubuntu-security | 02:15 |
| joejaxx | lol | 02:16 |
| joejaxx | i just noticed that | 02:16 |
| Nafallo | joejaxx: with two people? ;-) | 02:16 |
| joejaxx | ? | 02:16 |
| joejaxx | lol | 02:16 |
| geser | nixternal: an easy one: tendra ; check if it builds in feisty pbuilder and file a sync request then | 02:18 |
| joejaxx | Nafallo: there has to be more than two people concerned with security on ubuntu | 02:18 |
| nixternal | i will take a look at that | 02:18 |
| nixternal | thanks geser | 02:18 |
| Nafallo | joejaxx: where? :-) | 02:18 |
| Nafallo | joejaxx: pitti and keescook :-) | 02:18 |
| sistpoty | anyone working on aqsis merge? | 02:18 |
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| joejaxx | Nafallo: :P | 02:19 |
| Fujitsu | joejaxx, the two Nafallo mentioned are the two that are concerned with security in Ubuntu, although some MOTUs will work on security updates for universe packages (for example, I just backported a security fix for vnc4) | 02:20 |
| Nafallo | Fujitsu: nice :-) | 02:20 |
| Nafallo | I did some security work when I started. | 02:20 |
| Fujitsu | That makes my second security fix :P | 02:21 |
| Nafallo | at some point I should go back to doing that I guess... | 02:21 |
| joejaxx | Fujitsu: yes but i mean there is not a channel for it? ie more people interested in it | 02:21 |
| Fujitsu | There's no real reason for there to be a channel... | 02:21 |
| joejaxx | that is saddening | 02:22 |
| LaserJock | I should hope not | 02:23 |
| LaserJock | if we had to have a hug team for security it'd make me nervous | 02:23 |
| LaserJock | *huge | 02:23 |
| joejaxx | well i did not mean necessarily a team | 02:23 |
| LaserJock | we have a hug team ;-) | 02:23 |
| Nafallo | LaserJock: hugs! :-D | 02:24 |
| joejaxx | but the same way how people who are not motu are in #u-motu | 02:24 |
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| joejaxx | and people who are in #u-kernel | 02:24 |
| joejaxx | that i what i really mean | 02:24 |
| LaserJock | well, but the channels are primarily designed for team communication | 02:24 |
| joejaxx | yeah that is true | 02:25 |
| Nafallo | joejaxx: security are often more complicated then packaging in general :-) | 02:25 |
| Fujitsu | I think a universe security team is needed, otherwise bugs don't get seen for 7 months (like the vnc4 one). One of the security team sees a security bug, then ignores it 'cause it's in universe, and nothing ever gets done because nobody is notified. | 02:25 |
| LaserJock | yep | 02:25 |
| Nafallo | Fujitsu: we have ubuntu-cve | 02:25 |
| Nafallo | just have to look at it now and again :-) | 02:25 |
| Nafallo | hmm | 02:25 |
| Fujitsu | Not everything gets a CVE, does it? | 02:26 |
| LaserJock | but a team would be nice, to get people interested in helping out | 02:26 |
| sistpoty | hm... I guess we could really need a universe-police, the motu-security squat :) | 02:26 |
| Nafallo | Fujitsu: most things we care to backport patches for does :-) | 02:26 |
| joejaxx | sistpoty: :P :) | 02:26 |
| Fujitsu | Nafallo, true. | 02:26 |
| Nafallo | sistpoty: motu-swat team :-D | 02:26 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 02:26 |
| LaserJock | I'd like to see MOTU Security and MOTU QA teams get going | 02:27 |
| sistpoty | LaserJock: +1 | 02:27 |
| sistpoty | LaserJock: I've been thinking a little bit about qa as well... ;) | 02:27 |
| Nafallo | motu-swat. everything else you have to read up what it is... like greyskull :-) | 02:27 |
| joejaxx | yay | 02:27 |
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| joejaxx | lol | 02:27 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock, same. | 02:27 |
| sistpoty | LaserJock: I guess it might be good to know about which packages are ubuntu maintained at first :) | 02:28 |
| sistpoty | and then see, which are still actively maintained *g* | 02:28 |
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| === Nafallo found mplayer being in bad shape security-wise :-/ | ||
| sistpoty | Nafallo: don't fear people away from motu-swat :P | 02:28 |
| === sistpoty wouldn't want to touch mplayer | ||
| LaserJock | I was trying to figure out the other day how we could create a list of Debian RC/high severity bugs that have been fixed since the version Ubuntu has | 02:29 |
| Fujitsu | It would be nice to have a team which was bug contact for Ubuntu-only packages, so we could get a nice list. | 02:29 |
| Nafallo | sistpoty: I would probably be dumb enough to join myself :-) | 02:29 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 02:29 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock, that shouldn't be too difficult. There's a list of RC bugs somewhere, which can be processed fairly easily... | 02:29 |
| Nafallo | LaserJock: ubuntu-cve has that :-) | 02:29 |
| Fujitsu | In fact, I think MoM creates such a list. | 02:29 |
| Nafallo | ah no. | 02:29 |
| Nafallo | not RC/high | 02:30 |
| Nafallo | dooh | 02:30 |
| LaserJock | well, I want to have say an RC list, a high list, a normal list, etc. | 02:31 |
| Nafallo | Fujitsu: would that be useful. I already are bugcontact for my packages :-P | 02:31 |
| Fujitsu | Nafallo, but quite a number of maintainers seem to have wandered off. | 02:31 |
| LaserJock | we also need regularly updated lists of unmet deps and FTBFS | 02:31 |
| sistpoty | I tried to do that once, but LP didn't let me *g* | 02:31 |
| sistpoty | (the bug contact thingy) | 02:31 |
| Fujitsu | sistpoty, we do it for science. | 02:32 |
| Nafallo | Fujitsu: right. I do from time to time :-/ | 02:32 |
| Fujitsu | Did the scheduled rebuild test ever occur?> | 02:32 |
| Fujitsu | Or is Soyuz still incapable? | 02:32 |
| LaserJock | then we need to figure out what kind of upgrade testing we want to do | 02:32 |
| sistpoty | hm... I guess we should focus on merges first, to get these done ASAP, and then look for FTBFS/unmetdeps | 02:32 |
| geser | it would be good it the sync request get processed soon | 02:33 |
| geser | so it gets easier to spot packages which still need merging | 02:33 |
| Fujitsu | geser, yep. | 02:34 |
| === Fujitsu groans. | ||
| Nafallo | and MoM turned on... | 02:34 |
| sistpoty | yay... when's the next archive-admin day? | 02:34 |
| Nafallo | dooh. that got kinky... | 02:34 |
| sistpoty | monday? | 02:34 |
| Nafallo | tuesday and thursday, no? | 02:34 |
| Fujitsu | Why oh why did I upload azureus... It's now got my name next to it for merging... :S | 02:34 |
| Nafallo | Fujitsu: haha | 02:34 |
| Fujitsu | Nafallo, Tue/Fri, I thought. | 02:34 |
| keescook | for universe security work, I'd love to see a motu team. | 02:34 |
| keescook | then I could subscribe them to the security bugs for universe packages; right now they're hard to filter for | 02:35 |
| Fujitsu | keescook, good to hear :) | 02:35 |
| Fujitsu | keescook, precisely my complaint. | 02:35 |
| Nafallo | keescook: hi! :-) | 02:35 |
| sistpoty | hi keescook btw. | 02:35 |
| Fujitsu | ubuntu-{motu,universe}-security? | 02:35 |
| Nafallo | keescook: do you know if pitti has plans to integrate ubuntu-cve with malone or something? I found some textfile in his ~ :-) | 02:35 |
| sistpoty | any volunteers for ubuntu-swat? | 02:35 |
| keescook | Hi Nafallo sistpoty! (you guys lit up my irc hilighting with all the security chat) :) | 02:35 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 02:35 |
| Nafallo | keescook: haha | 02:36 |
| Nafallo | sistpoty: yes | 02:36 |
| keescook | Nafallo: yeah, ubuntu-cve will eventually merge with malone, but there are some features in malone we're waiting for still | 02:36 |
| Nafallo | sistpoty: I can even own it :-P | 02:36 |
| Nafallo | keescook: thought so. that would rock :-) | 02:36 |
| sistpoty | Nafallo: great, please do :) | 02:36 |
| keescook | yeah, I'll start getting some _really_ crazy karma then. LP doesn't give credit for uploads. :) | 02:36 |
| === Nafallo looks for "create team" | ||
| Nafallo | :-P | 02:37 |
| Nafallo | keescook: haha | 02:37 |
| keescook | I think new motu teams probably should get discussed at the motu meetings, but as for the basic concept, I'm all for it. | 02:37 |
| Fujitsu | keescook, it's meant to at some point in the future, AFAIK. | 02:37 |
| Adri2000 | how can I pbuild a package which build depends on a package that isn't yet in the repo but I have on my hard disk? | 02:37 |
| Nafallo | should I create it now or hold off? :-) | 02:38 |
| sistpoty | Nafallo: go for it, I'll join in then ;) | 02:38 |
| Fujitsu | Nafallo, go ahead. | 02:38 |
| keescook | Adri2000: I don't use pbuild (I use schroot/sbuild with lvm snapshots) but I'd guess you'd need to either make yourself a repo your pbuilder pulls from, or temporarily add it to your chroot | 02:38 |
| LaserJock | we should take it to the list afterward though | 02:38 |
| Fujitsu | Adri2000, I use `pbuilder login', then copy the stuff in. | 02:38 |
| keescook | Nafallo: I'd bring it up on the motu mailing list; I'll be happy to chime in on it too. | 02:38 |
| sistpoty | LaserJock: yep | 02:38 |
| sistpoty | always those productive friday nights :) | 02:39 |
| keescook | cool, I can go through all the outstanding security bugs and subscribe the new team. :) | 02:39 |
| keescook | stuff on my personal wishlist is clamav and wordpress right now. | 02:39 |
| Fujitsu | It would be really nice to not have flaws like #77383 sitting around for 7 months... | 02:40 |
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| keescook | the clamav backport isn't so simple. :( dapper's fix just plain doesn't work... | 02:40 |
| joejaxx | Nafallo: :D | 02:40 |
| Nafallo | keescook: I've done wordpress before I think :-) | 02:40 |
| keescook | Fujitsu: yeah, I agree. I wish I could keep up with all of them. | 02:40 |
| joejaxx | Nafallo: see what discussion brings about :) | 02:40 |
| LaserJock | joejaxx: you realize what this means though, don't you? | 02:40 |
| keescook | Nafallo: cool; I looked at the patches for 2.0.6, they look sane and mostly small. | 02:40 |
| Fujitsu | If MOTU can keep track of such flaws, they'll be able to be fixed much more quickly. | 02:41 |
| joejaxx | LaserJock: i hope something not bad lol | 02:41 |
| LaserJock | joejaxx: you have to help | 02:41 |
| joejaxx | LaserJock: oh ok that is not a problem | 02:41 |
| joejaxx | :) | 02:41 |
| keescook | Fujitsu: btw, I'm waiting on the edgy sparc build, and then I'll publish the vnc4 updates. Thanks again for getting that. :) | 02:41 |
| Fujitsu | No problem! | 02:41 |
| Nafallo | sistpoty: gaah. we need an emblem :-P | 02:42 |
| Adri2000 | Fujitsu: stupid question maybe, but in the pbuilder where are located the files that are outside the chroot? | 02:42 |
| sistpoty | Nafallo: maybe s.th. with a shield? | 02:42 |
| Fujitsu | Adri2000, you have to copy them from the outside. | 02:42 |
| Nafallo | let's go find some shields :-) | 02:43 |
| keescook | Nafallo: the ubuntu-dev is the MotU shield, so use the MotU sword now. | 02:43 |
| keescook | that crazy heman sword. | 02:43 |
| Nafallo | keescook: hehe. nice :-) | 02:43 |
| sistpoty | great idea :) | 02:43 |
| === Nafallo googles | ||
| Adri2000 | Fujitsu: how? :s | 02:43 |
| Fujitsu | Adri2000, you'll note that it gives you a path once you run pbuilder login. | 02:44 |
| Fujitsu | Copy the .debs and the requisite sources to that path, and they'll magically appear in the chroot. | 02:44 |
| Fujitsu | keescook, very good idea :P | 02:44 |
| joejaxx | lol the heman sword | 02:45 |
| keescook | heh. or maybe his axe? dunno | 02:45 |
| Fujitsu | What's the team called, Nafallo? | 02:45 |
| Adri2000 | Fujitsu: ah yes, magic! thanks | 02:45 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 02:45 |
| Fujitsu | motu-swat. | 02:45 |
| Nafallo | Fujitsu: motu-swat :-) | 02:45 |
| Fujitsu | No problem, Adri2000. | 02:45 |
| sistpoty | cool, I'm a member already :) | 02:46 |
| joejaxx | Nafallo: nice | 02:46 |
| Nafallo | sistpoty: hehe ;-) | 02:47 |
| Fujitsu | It's even got a bug subscribed now! | 02:47 |
| joejaxx | Nafallo: do you have to be motu to join? | 02:48 |
| LaserJock | boy, aren't you guys l33t ;-) | 02:48 |
| joejaxx | LaserJock: lol | 02:48 |
| Fujitsu | joejaxx, not in my opinion. | 02:48 |
| joejaxx | Fujitsu: ok | 02:48 |
| Nafallo | joejaxx: not in my opinion either :-) | 02:48 |
| joejaxx | i just wanted to ask before i hit the join team link | 02:48 |
| LaserJock | joejaxx: I started MOTU Science before I was a MOTU ;-) | 02:49 |
| joejaxx | ;) | 02:49 |
| _MMA_ | Yet another project for joejaxx. ;) | 02:49 |
| Fujitsu | Hrm, why is MOTU-Media's name ubuntu-motu? | 02:50 |
| joejaxx | _MMA_: LOL | 02:50 |
| Nafallo | Fujitsu: is it? :-) | 02:50 |
| Fujitsu | (that being one of the three MOTU Media teams) | 02:50 |
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| Fujitsu | Ah, MOTU-Media was automagically created; who know why it has such a strange name. | 02:51 |
| LaserJock | our teams are kinda messy | 02:52 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock, yeah. | 02:52 |
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| Nafallo | ubuntu-qa? :-) | 02:52 |
| Fujitsu | We need a standard... Some things are motusomething (like motuscience), others are motu-something (ie. motu-sru), others skip the motu entirely. | 02:53 |
| Nafallo | what now :-P | 02:53 |
| LaserJock | some are ubuntu- | 02:53 |
| bddebian | motu-crack | 02:53 |
| Nafallo | aha :-P | 02:53 |
| LaserJock | bddebian's on top of that one | 02:53 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: you have your own team now? ;-) | 02:53 |
| Nafallo | hehe | 02:53 |
| geser | should motu-swat be subscribed to bug #72921? | 02:53 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 72921 in php4 "Several unfixed CVEs for php4 in Ubuntu Dapper and Edgy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72921 | 02:53 |
| Nafallo | geser: yes :-) | 02:53 |
| Fujitsu | (uncommonproglang is an example of a MOTU team with no motu) | 02:53 |
| Fujitsu | geser, I believe so. | 02:53 |
| bddebian | Nafallo: Yeah, 3 people too. Me, Myself, and I ;-P | 02:53 |
| sistpoty | Fujitsu: sorry | 02:54 |
| sistpoty | Fujitsu: my fault *g* | 02:54 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: *ASG* *hugs* | 02:54 |
| Fujitsu | sistpoty, yeah, I noted it was owned by you. | 02:54 |
| === Fujitsu gets out the whip. | ||
| bddebian | ASG? | 02:54 |
| === sistpoty hides | ||
| Nafallo | bddebian: swedish for ROTFL ;-) | 02:54 |
| === Fujitsu calls in the Hobbsee. | ||
| bddebian | Ahh :_) | 02:54 |
| Fujitsu | Brb, lunch. | 02:54 |
| keescook | Fujitsu: bleh. vnc4 failed on sparc in edgy. *sigh* I'll take a look at it later, I gotta run. | 02:55 |
| Nafallo | keescook: :-) | 02:56 |
| keescook | Nafallo: I gotta finished building my bookshelves. :) cya folks | 02:57 |
| Nafallo | keescook: nice talking to you :-) | 02:57 |
| Nafallo | lol | 02:57 |
| Nafallo | ubuntu-dev, ubuntumembers :-) | 02:57 |
| sistpoty | cya keescook | 02:58 |
| Nafallo | things ain't consistant ;-) | 02:58 |
| sistpoty | hm... nethack has some nice graphics for logos :) | 02:58 |
| sistpoty | or rather falconseye | 02:58 |
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| Fujitsu | Bye, keescook. | 02:59 |
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| Fujitsu | You can rename teams, can't you? | 02:59 |
| Nafallo | sistpoty: nice. you fix that then :-) | 02:59 |
| sistpoty | Nafallo: ok, I'll try... need to rescale them first *g* | 03:00 |
| Nafallo | sistpoty: I suck at gfx :-) | 03:00 |
| sistpoty | Nafallo: unfortunately me too :/ | 03:00 |
| Nafallo | I'm worst ;-) | 03:00 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 03:01 |
| joejaxx | Fujitsu: yeah | 03:02 |
| joejaxx | Fujitsu: i think the descriptive name | 03:02 |
| joejaxx | Fujitsu: but not the direct name | 03:02 |
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| ScottK | Anybody up for revuing some Perl packages? | 03:16 |
| ScottK | Having survived my first visit here last month, I'm back with more... | 03:16 |
| bddebian | Perl? What the heck is that? :-) | 03:17 |
| ScottK | libnet-dns-resolver-programmable-perl http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3974 | 03:17 |
| bddebian | I think the package name is too short | 03:18 |
| Nafallo | *ASG* | 03:18 |
| Toadstool | heh | 03:18 |
| Nafallo | meeh | 03:18 |
| Nafallo | ROTFL even | 03:18 |
| ScottK | I agree, but it seems to fit the scheme for PERL packages... | 03:18 |
| bddebian | heh | 03:18 |
| Toadstool | hi everybody :) | 03:18 |
| Nafallo | hi Toadstool | 03:18 |
| bddebian | Hence why we reject perl ;-P | 03:18 |
| bddebian | Heya Toadstool | 03:18 |
| Toadstool | hey bddebian & Nafallo | 03:18 |
| Toadstool | perl is evil! | 03:19 |
| ScottK | OK. Here's another with a shorter name... | 03:19 |
| ScottK | libnetaddr-ip-perl http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3975 | 03:19 |
| ScottK | That one is in Debian, but VERY old. See Debian bug 329644 | 03:20 |
| Ubugtu | Debian bug 329644 in libnetaddr-ip-perl "libnetaddr-ip-perl: New upstream release" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/329644 | 03:20 |
| ScottK | Both of those are dependencies for the one I'm really after getting in... | 03:20 |
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| bddebian | No one reviewed MY package :'-( | 03:21 |
| ScottK | Another nice short name (really): mail-spf-perl http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3976 | 03:21 |
| Toadstool | bddebian: what package? | 03:21 |
| bddebian | Toadstool: pegsolitaire :-) | 03:21 |
| === Toadstool needs something easy to review | ||
| Toadstool | it's been a long time you know :p | 03:22 |
| somerville32 | tonyyserver, | 03:22 |
| somerville32 | :/ | 03:22 |
| somerville32 | Has anyone had trouble when upgrading to Feisty with vim-tiny's post-install script failing with error code 2? | 03:23 |
| Fujitsu | somerville32, it apparently works if you retry the configuration of it a few times. | 03:23 |
| Toadstool | i've heard of some issues related to vim lately yeah | 03:24 |
| Toadstool | uh | 03:24 |
| somerville32 | Fujitsu, for real? | 03:24 |
| Fujitsu | somerville32, yep. | 03:24 |
| Fujitsu | joejaxx, it appears that you can fully rename a team. | 03:24 |
| joejaxx | Fujitsu: really? | 03:24 |
| Fujitsu | joejaxx, I was able to do it, so yes. | 03:24 |
| joejaxx | Fujitsu: hmm i did not see an option to do that when i looked before | 03:25 |
| joejaxx | Fujitsu: maybe they just added that? | 03:25 |
| Fujitsu | Under `Change Team Details', top box. | 03:25 |
| sistpoty | Nafallo: I've got two icons now, a sword and an armor: http://tiber.tauware.de/~sistpoty/icons/ | 03:26 |
| joejaxx | Fujitsu: interesting | 03:26 |
| sistpoty | Nafallo: but imo the armor looks better (I just couldn't convert the sword to a nice looking thing) | 03:26 |
| joejaxx | Fujitsu: i only remember being able to change the descriptive one | 03:26 |
| ScottK | About vim-tiny: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vim/+bug/77726 | 03:26 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 77726 in vim "can't upgrade vim" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 03:26 |
| somerville32 | Fujitsu: I installed the deb manually and it worked | 03:26 |
| joejaxx | Fujitsu: thanks for telling me about that | 03:26 |
| joejaxx | :) | 03:26 |
| somerville32 | ScottK: Thanks. (I'd look but I'm in tty right now) | 03:27 |
| Fujitsu | sistpoty, the armour is rather unrecognisable. | 03:27 |
| Fujitsu | somerville32, LP isn't bad in elinks. | 03:27 |
| sistpoty | Fujitsu: the sword as well :(... I just suck at gfx | 03:27 |
| Nafallo | sistpoty: I like the sword :-) | 03:27 |
| sistpoty | hm... the armor looks better with a non white background I just found out... but LP background is almost white :/ | 03:28 |
| Fujitsu | Anybody here got a sparc machine I can do a build-test on? | 03:28 |
| sistpoty | Nafallo: let's take the sword then | 03:28 |
| Nafallo | sistpoty: oki :-) | 03:28 |
| sistpoty | Nafallo: you'll have to do that... I cannot change the emblem ;) | 03:29 |
| Nafallo | nice :-) | 03:30 |
| somerville32 | :] | 03:30 |
| bddebian | StevenK: This hideously long name is different than libnet-dns-perl in Debian? | 03:30 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 03:31 |
| ScottK | To quote the author when I whined earlier today about having to package that one too, he said, "eah, I'm sorry. But no virtual DNS resolver class existed on CPAN (let alone Debian) before, so I had to write one myself." | 03:32 |
| ScottK | eah/yeah... | 03:32 |
| === Fujitsu curses the embedded, unbuildable-on-sparc copy of Xorg in vnc4... It's all tarred up too, so no modification in .diff.gz for me... :S | ||
| bddebian | I thought we ripped the version of vnc4 that had xorg in it out of the archives? | 03:36 |
| ScottK | libnet-dns-perl is also a dependency. | 03:37 |
| Fujitsu | bddebian, nope. | 03:38 |
| Fujitsu | It's still there. | 03:38 |
| Fujitsu | (in Dapper and Edgy at least, which is where it matters) | 03:38 |
| bddebian | ScottK: Couple of small issues with it but overall looks fine | 03:38 |
| ScottK | OK. Thanks. | 03:38 |
| ScottK | I'll go work on that. | 03:38 |
| ScottK | Would you mind taking a look at the other two too? | 03:39 |
| bddebian | But my reviews are pretty worthless :-) | 03:39 |
| bddebian | I am working on it | 03:39 |
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| ScottK | Cool. | 03:39 |
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| ScottK | IIRC your reviews were very helpful last time I tried this. | 03:40 |
| ScottK | bbdebian: Question about the changelog... The previous entries were in the Debian changelog put in by the upstream author (He's a Debian user and eventually hopes to get these in there). I just want to make sure that it's cool to remove the previous entries even when they are in org.tar.gz? | 03:43 |
| bddebian | ScottK: Is there a debian dir in the orig.tar.gz? | 03:43 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 03:43 |
| bddebian | bad, bad, bad :-) | 03:44 |
| ScottK | He put it there, not me. Made my job easier though. | 03:44 |
| bddebian | Aye, but it's not "the Debian way" | 03:44 |
| ScottK | Yes. So at this point I'm not sure which way is the best way to deal with it. | 03:45 |
| Nafallo | ScottK: tell upstream to remove it :-) | 03:46 |
| ScottK | OK. I can ask for the next release. What to do about this one? | 03:46 |
| bddebian | If he is the upstream author, why is he not putting changes in changelog, not worrying about debian/changelog? :) | 03:47 |
| ScottK | He's very thorough? | 03:47 |
| ScottK | The changes are listed in changelog too. | 03:47 |
| ScottK | The same issue will apply to mail-spf-perl too. | 03:48 |
| Toadstool | bddebian: according to lintian, changelog.gz is empty in /usr/doc/$package | 03:48 |
| Toadstool | (in pegsolitaire) | 03:49 |
| bddebian | Yes it is empty | 03:53 |
| bddebian | ScottK: debian/changelog is distro specific changes, he shouldn't be putting them in there imo | 03:53 |
| ScottK | Agreed, but does that mean I should remove them? That's what I'm not sure of. | 03:54 |
| Toadstool | bddebian: then there's no need to include it in the package, right? | 03:55 |
| bddebian | Toadstool: I wasn't sure, the file is in the tarball | 03:55 |
| ScottK | It looks to me like the copyright file was cribbed almost straight out of the Debian Maintainer's Guide. http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-dreq.en.html#s-copyright | 03:56 |
| ScottK | If you all think I should excise his debian/changelog, just say the word. I'll go either way. | 03:59 |
| === Nafallo is to tired to look ;-) | ||
| Nafallo | 4AM :-P | 03:59 |
| bddebian | ScottK: OK, as I said, license stuff isn't my bag | 04:01 |
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| bddebian | persia: !! Long time no "see" :-) | 04:04 |
| persia | bddebian: Sorry about that. I've a couple months now, so I'll be around. I'll chase up on #45852 (several months late) today :) | 04:05 |
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| bddebian | I didn't mean that, I just meant welcome back :-) | 04:07 |
| bddebian | Heya Hobbsee | 04:07 |
| Fujitsu | Hi Hobbsee. | 04:07 |
| persia | bddebian: Thanks then. Nice to see you. | 04:07 |
| Fujitsu | Damn, 6 seconds. I really am too slow these days. | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | Hobbsee, :) | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | hey bddebian, Fujitsu | 04:08 |
| somerville32 | ... | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | hey somerville32 | 04:09 |
| somerville32 | :D | 04:09 |
| sistpoty | hi Hobbsee | 04:11 |
| zakame | hi all | 04:11 |
| sistpoty | hi zakame | 04:11 |
| ScottK | bbdebian: Based on the debian/changelog stuff is in orig.tar.gz, can I twist your arm into advocating libnet-dns-resolver-programmable-perl? | 04:11 |
| zakame | hi sistpoty how's everything? | 04:11 |
| sistpoty | zakame: thanks, fine... how about you? | 04:12 |
| zakame | I'm back to my hometown, but the internet tubes here are quite leaky... | 04:13 |
| Nafallo | zakame: !!! :-D *hugs* | 04:13 |
| zakame | Nafallo!!! :D | 04:15 |
| === zakame hugs Nafallo and sistpoty | ||
| Nafallo | :-) | 04:15 |
| === sistpoty hugs zakame | ||
| Hobbsee | hey sistpoty :) | 04:16 |
| Nafallo | Hobbsee: ! :-) | 04:16 |
| Hobbsee | hey Nafallo | 04:16 |
| Toadstool | hi Hobbsee! | 04:16 |
| Nafallo | Hobbsee: things are good? :-) | 04:17 |
| ScottK | sistpoty: Would you have time to look at a couple of packages? I found your REVUs very helpful last time I tried to do this. | 04:17 |
| sistpoty | ScottK: I never have time :P | 04:17 |
| sistpoty | ScottK: but I'll look at one or two maybe ;) | 04:17 |
| ScottK | OK. | 04:18 |
| sistpoty | ScottK: link or packagename? | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | hey Toadstool :) | 04:18 |
| ScottK | Coming... | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | Nafallo: yep :) | 04:18 |
| ScottK | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3975 | 04:18 |
| Nafallo | Hobbsee: sounds good :-) | 04:18 |
| ScottK | This one is in Debian, but very old. See Debian bug 329644 | 04:19 |
| Ubugtu | Debian bug 329644 in libnetaddr-ip-perl "libnetaddr-ip-perl: New upstream release" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/329644 | 04:19 |
| sistpoty | bddebian, ScottK: if the package is already in the archive, one vote is enough ;) | 04:19 |
| sistpoty | but I can look anyway, if you want | 04:19 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 04:19 |
| bddebian | sistpoty: Well I'm a lousy reviewer as you know :-) | 04:19 |
| ScottK | Then http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3974 | 04:20 |
| sistpoty | bddebian: not at all ;) | 04:20 |
| ScottK | We were just discussing what to do about the debian/changelog because the entries that predate mine are from upstream in orig.tar.gz. | 04:20 |
| ScottK | This is the initial packaging for Ubuntu. | 04:20 |
| ScottK | My theory had been that I shouldn't remove upstream entries, but I'll go either way. | 04:21 |
| ScottK | I was just trying to twist bbdebian's arm into advocating when you arrived. | 04:22 |
| sistpoty | ScottK: well, opinions on this differ... imo there's nothing wrong in leaving these in... actually you still change stuff upstream released so far, only that it hasn't been released for ubuntu yet | 04:22 |
| sistpoty | ScottK: is the tar.gz bit-identical to the one from upstream? (too lazy to look myself now *g*) | 04:23 |
| ScottK | Yes. Just changed the name. | 04:23 |
| sistpoty | ok, fine | 04:23 |
| sistpoty | ScottK: you should put yourself as maintainer in there. If you want you can then put upstream in an "uploader" field. | 04:25 |
| somerville32 | How can I use apt-get to see why packages were held back? | 04:25 |
| ScottK | OK. Makes sense since it's not in Debian at all. I'll do that. | 04:26 |
| Hobbsee | somerville32: apt-get install, apt-get dist-upgrade... | 04:26 |
| ScottK | Anything else? | 04:26 |
| sistpoty | ScottK: make it clear in debian/copyright as well ;) | 04:26 |
| somerville32 | Hobbsee, that tells me _what_ was held back but not _why_ :] | 04:26 |
| ScottK | OK. | 04:27 |
| Hobbsee | somerville32: install it and it'll tell you why | 04:27 |
| Hobbsee | heya ScottK - arent you one of the LP guys? | 04:27 |
| somerville32 | Ah | 04:27 |
| ScottK | LP? | 04:27 |
| Hobbsee | launchpad | 04:29 |
| ScottK | No | 04:29 |
| sistpoty | ScottK: other than that it's fine | 04:29 |
| ScottK | I file bugs and comments. That's it. | 04:30 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 04:30 |
| ScottK | Fixing now. | 04:30 |
| sistpoty | (though I must admit, that I don't know anything about perl policy) | 04:30 |
| Fujitsu | sistpoty, that is most fortunate. | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: ahh | 04:30 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 04:30 |
| somerville32 | Hobbsee, The following packages have unmet dependencies:rn linux-restricted-modules-386: Depends: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-4-386 but it is not installable | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | somerville32: then install the later one. | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | why are you running -386 anyway? | 04:31 |
| somerville32 | I dunno... I didn't do anything special | 04:31 |
| Nafallo | Hobbsee: the question we all ask ourselves all the time when giving support ;-) | 04:31 |
| Fujitsu | Anybody here got a SPARC with an edgy pbuilder? | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | Nafallo: heh | 04:32 |
| somerville32 | Package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-4-386 is not available, but is referredrnto by another package.rnThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, orrnis only available from another sourcernE: Package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-4-386 has no installation candidate | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | somerville32: probably means it failed to build, or hasnt been published yet. you should be using -generic, anyway | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | unless you have something that needs the 386 | 04:32 |
| somerville32 | I dunno. I guess it got installed by default. | 04:33 |
| somerville32 | So I should install -generic? | 04:34 |
| Nafallo | yes | 04:35 |
| somerville32 | Is there a performance loss? | 04:35 |
| Nafallo | win | 04:35 |
| Hobbsee | no | 04:35 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 04:35 |
| somerville32 | win? | 04:35 |
| somerville32 | What is the package that I need to install to get the -generic kernel? | 04:36 |
| Nafallo | performance win if anything :-) | 04:36 |
| somerville32 | oh, awesome :] | 04:36 |
| Nafallo | linux-generic | 04:36 |
| somerville32 | The following packages have unmet dependencies:rn linux-restricted-modules-generic: Depends: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-4-generic but it is not installable | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | install that then | 04:37 |
| somerville32 | Same error | 04:37 |
| somerville32 | (as the for -383) | 04:37 |
| somerville32 | Package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-4-generic is not available, but is referred to by another package. | 04:37 |
| Hobbsee | then just wait for your mirror to sync, or use a different mirror | 04:38 |
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| somerville32 | I don't use a mirror | 04:38 |
| somerville32 | Or does it connect to the mirror automatically based on my ip address? | 04:38 |
| somerville32 | my sources.list has archives.ubuntu.com | 04:39 |
| ScottK | sistypoty/bbdebian: How's this then? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3977 | 04:39 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, l-r-m often lags behind a bit. | 04:40 |
| somerville32 | Is it ok for me to reboot? | 04:40 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: true. but i just installed it | 04:40 |
| somerville32 | lol | 04:41 |
| Fujitsu | Hrm. | 04:41 |
| Hobbsee | somerville32: use gb.archive.u.c | 04:41 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, which mirror do you use? | 04:41 |
| somerville32 | Fujitsu, me or Hobbsee? | 04:41 |
| === Nafallo uses se.archive.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com :-) | ||
| Fujitsu | somerville32: Hobbsee. | 04:41 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: gb.archive and | 04:42 |
| Hobbsee | deb http://mirror.pacific.net.au/ubuntu feisty main restricted universe multiver | 04:42 |
| Hobbsee | se | 04:42 |
| === Nafallo needs more water | ||
| Hobbsee | argh, bad paste | 04:42 |
| Hobbsee | deb http://mirror.pacific.net.au/ubuntu feisty main restricted universe multiverse | 04:42 |
| Hobbsee | (plus all the other assorted lines for that mirror, like feisty-updates, deb-src, etc) | 04:42 |
| Fujitsu | Aha. | 04:43 |
| somerville32 | Hmm | 04:43 |
| Nafallo | Hobbsee: why have all the empty archives added? :-) | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | Nafallo: good questoin | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | habit | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | Nafallo: and i transfer that sources list from release to release | 04:44 |
| somerville32 | Tried with the mirrors | 04:44 |
| Nafallo | I always run devel on this client so... :-) | 04:44 |
| somerville32 | It is working now | 04:44 |
| somerville32 | Sim generic is faster then 386? | 04:45 |
| somerville32 | *So | 04:45 |
| somerville32 | I run a 333mhz, btw | 04:45 |
| Nafallo | somerville32: should be, yea. | 04:46 |
| somerville32 | Why? | 04:46 |
| somerville32 | What makes it faster? | 04:46 |
| Nafallo | optimised for i686 instead of i486 IIRC | 04:47 |
| Nafallo | hmm | 04:47 |
| === ScottK thought it was because linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-4-generic has more letters than linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-4-i386... | ||
| === Nafallo was about to check what's different, but remembered he's on amd64 :-P | ||
| StevenK | -generic handles both i386 and amd64, where as -686 was i386-centric | 04:48 |
| StevenK | (The package names are the same, but the contents are different across each arch, of course) | 04:49 |
| Nafallo | StevenK: wrong discussion I think :-). 386 vs generic? | 04:50 |
| Nafallo | on x86 | 04:50 |
| StevenK | -386 still exists | 04:50 |
| StevenK | -686 does not | 04:50 |
| Nafallo | noone have talked about -686? :-) | 04:50 |
| sistpoty | hey, Nafallo: got an edgy system at hand? I just committed a patch for clamav (bug #76374) | 05:02 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 76374 in clamav "MIME bypass" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76374 | 05:02 |
| Fujitsu | sistpoty, I was about to work on that :P | 05:02 |
| Nafallo | sistpoty: sure. I'll go fire it up :-) | 05:02 |
| sistpoty | Fujitsu: darn... sorry. | 05:03 |
| sistpoty | Nafallo: thx | 05:03 |
| Fujitsu | So that patch is really the fix? I didn't find it plausible that it was going to be simple. | 05:03 |
| Nafallo | damnit! it's the machine that won't start right away :-) | 05:03 |
| Nafallo | sistpoty: where did you commit? :-) | 05:04 |
| sistpoty | Fujitsu: it works in my edgy chroot with unknown age (but since it was pretty virgin, it must not have been that old) | 05:04 |
| Fujitsu | Debian used the same patch to fix it, so it must be right. | 05:04 |
| sistpoty | Nafallo: debdiff right at the bug | 05:04 |
| Nafallo | sistpoty: ah. I checked for bzr ;-) | 05:04 |
| sistpoty | Nafallo: is clamav in bzr? | 05:04 |
| Nafallo | dunno :-) | 05:05 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 05:05 |
| sistpoty | though I guess debdiffs attached to the bugs should work better for security updates (imo)... at least it's much more easy to look at a debdiff for -sru. | 05:06 |
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| Nafallo | oki :-) | 05:06 |
| Nafallo | sistpoty: it booted :-) | 05:08 |
| sistpoty | Nafallo: congrats ;) | 05:08 |
| Nafallo | hehe | 05:08 |
| Nafallo | last time I tried it took a week from that I pressed the power button :-P | 05:08 |
| somerville32 | Woot | 05:08 |
| Nafallo | you're lucky ;-) | 05:08 |
| === somerville32 is now a feisty man. | ||
| Nafallo | somerville32: welcome :-) | 05:09 |
| keescook | zakame: yo! been emailin' ya :) | 05:09 |
| keescook | Nafallo: I added a bunch more bugs to motu-swat. :) | 05:11 |
| sistpoty | :) | 05:11 |
| Nafallo | keescook: :-D | 05:11 |
| Hobbsee | keescook: what's the swat for? | 05:12 |
| keescook | Hobbsee: they formed a motu security team. :) | 05:12 |
| Nafallo | Hobbsee: it has a description ;-) | 05:12 |
| Nafallo | hehe | 05:12 |
| ScottK | sistpoty: Thanks. http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3977 Any other takers? bbdebian? | 05:12 |
| Hobbsee | keescook: ahhh | 05:13 |
| Fujitsu | keescook, I believe I've fixed the sparc issue. | 05:13 |
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| keescook | Fujitsu: oh, cool. what'd you find? | 05:13 |
| bddebian | ScottK: Sure, give me a few | 05:13 |
| Fujitsu | (I applied part of the patch from Debian 1.0.2-9) | 05:13 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 05:13 |
| sistpoty | keescook: the clamav/edgy fix works for me btw., at least in a chroot | 05:14 |
| Fujitsu | I haven't confirmed it builds on SPARC (I've got no access to such a machine), but the patch I've applied fixed the Xorg FTBFS on SPARC in Debian. | 05:14 |
| keescook | sistpoty: interesting... | 05:14 |
| ScottK | The same guy did my other package - http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3978 so I went back and made the same changes. I expect it will be good to go, but, as noted, it won't build until libnet-dns-resolver-programmable-perl is in the archives. | 05:15 |
| sistpoty | keescook: can you look at the debdiff? maybe you applied s.th. different (bug #76374) | 05:15 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 76374 in clamav "MIME bypass" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76374 | 05:15 |
| sistpoty | thanks Ubugtu: | 05:15 |
| keescook | sistpoty: yeah, looks good, let me spin it up on my edgy chroot. I wonder what I got wrong when I tried it. :P | 05:17 |
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| sistpoty | keescook: I also asked Nafallo to test it a few minutes ago ;) | 05:17 |
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| === Fujitsu shakes his fist at LP's release-nomination restrictions. | ||
| keescook | sistpoty: cool. I built up a little test-harness for clamav, it's here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/bzr/package-tests/ | 05:19 |
| keescook | (along with a mess of other package tests too) | 05:19 |
| persia | Could someone please walk me through the current procedure to request patch application to the archives? | 05:19 |
| Fujitsu | keescook, there's not much there... | 05:19 |
| Fujitsu | Oh, bzr. | 05:20 |
| keescook | heh, yeah, sorry. :) | 05:20 |
| Nafallo | sudo: pbuilder: command not found dooh :-/ | 05:26 |
| ScottK | bbdebian: Thanks for the REVU. http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3978 should build and be REVUable now, right? | 05:27 |
| keescook | sistpoty: doesn't work for me still... | 05:27 |
| sistpoty | keescook: strange... | 05:27 |
| keescook | /tmp/eicar.mbox: OK | 05:27 |
| keescook | yours detects the eicar? | 05:28 |
| sistpoty | keescook: at least if I run it from command line | 05:28 |
| keescook | so yours says /tmp/eicar.mbox: Eicar-Test-Signature FOUND | 05:29 |
| keescook | ? | 05:29 |
| sistpoty | keescook: eicar2.mbox: Eicar-Test-Signature FOUND | 05:29 |
| keescook | i386? | 05:29 |
| sistpoty | keescook: where can I find the stuff for the clamav test-suite? | 05:30 |
| keescook | I wonder if it's a arch thing... I'm on amd64... let me rebuild on my i386 chroot | 05:30 |
| sistpoty | keescook: I'm on amd64 as well | 05:30 |
| keescook | I think if you do a bzr co http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/bzr/package-tests/ | 05:30 |
| keescook | it'll pull it... | 05:30 |
| sistpoty | keescook: no, only the python stuff, but not the zip/eicar thingies | 05:31 |
| keescook | oh? to run the tests? it's in the comments at the top: | 05:31 |
| keescook | apt-get -y install python-unit clamav zip mpack | 05:32 |
| keescook | (actually, you need clamav-daemon too) | 05:32 |
| bddebian | ScottK: No, it will have to go through the NEW queue yet. | 05:32 |
| sistpoty | keescook: just read it, thanks | 05:32 |
| keescook | AH! I'm a _moron_ | 05:33 |
| keescook | Setting up libclamav1 (0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1) ... | 05:33 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 05:34 |
| keescook | hey, look at that, it works. *slap self* | 05:34 |
| keescook | cool. I'm glad another set of eyes looked at this. :) | 05:35 |
| sistpoty | *g* | 05:35 |
| sistpoty | keescook: what's next... can I upload this to -security, or do you need to do it? | 05:35 |
| keescook | I need to sign and upload it, but I'd rather get dapper tested too before doing an upload (just in case there is freak breakage) | 05:36 |
| keescook | brb | 05:36 |
| sistpoty | ok | 05:36 |
| sistpoty | I'll take a look at dapper then | 05:36 |
| ScottK | bbdebian. Thanks. How long does NEW queue take? | 05:36 |
| === Nafallo need to rethink he's computers roles :-) | ||
| Hobbsee | ScottK: forever | 05:37 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, or longer. | 05:37 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 05:37 |
| Nafallo | the server should be amd64 with buildmachines for amd64 and i386 in separate xens... | 05:37 |
| Nafallo | and the client should be dual-boot edgy and dapper :-) | 05:37 |
| Fujitsu | Can a core-dev here please ack the release nominations on bug #57195? | 05:38 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57195 in squirrelmail "[CVE-2006-4019] squirrelmail -- variable overwriting" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57195 | 05:38 |
| keescook | sistpoty: cool. I gotta split; send some email to security-review@lists.ubuntu.com to remind me and I'll get them uploaded to -security. cya | 05:38 |
| sistpoty | keescook: will do, thanks | 05:39 |
| keescook | Fujitsu: done. :) | 05:39 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks, keescook. | 05:39 |
| Fujitsu | Stupid LP. | 05:39 |
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| Nafallo | can't we ban php-packages from ubuntu or something? :-) | 06:02 |
| === Hobbsee wonders if the wine in feisty repos will be updated | ||
| harrisony | Hobbsee: just us the wine reps | 06:05 |
| Hobbsee | harrisony: i'm running feisty. | 06:05 |
| Fujitsu | Nafallo, yes please! | 06:06 |
| harrisony | why not use the edgy ones? wouldnt hurt i think | 06:06 |
| === Fujitsu grumps at totally unresponsive Debian maintainers. | ||
| hub | Fujitsu: they expect you to fix the packages, and then bitch how ubuntu took their work and differ from it | 06:07 |
| Fujitsu | hub, of course. | 06:07 |
| TheMuso | /c/c | 06:07 |
| bddebian | hmm | 06:07 |
| Fujitsu | I emailed a few a month ago, as they had longstanding bugs requested new upstream versions (and we had equivalents in Malone)... Not one has responded. I guess I'll go ahead with uploading them to Ubuntu. | 06:08 |
| sistpoty | actually I didn't have a problem with debian maintainers yet... most of them were even quite collaborative :) | 06:08 |
| === persia echos sistpoty | ||
| Fujitsu | sistpoty, some of them are great; others either aren't, or are long-missing. | 06:08 |
| sistpoty | hi persia | 06:08 |
| Hobbsee | harrisony: deps are likely not the same | 06:08 |
| persia | hi sistpoty | 06:08 |
| sistpoty | Fujitsu: well, yep long-missing that's right *g* | 06:09 |
| harrisony | hmm unless you wana download it and then make & checkinstall | 06:09 |
| Fujitsu | harrisony, don't you dare mention such a thing. | 06:09 |
| Hobbsee | \sh_away: heya. how hard is wine to upgrade? | 06:10 |
| Hobbsee | harrisony: ugh. | 06:10 |
| harrisony | Fujitsu: what this is MOTU-none of you (except for the bots) should be scared of source and compiling | 06:10 |
| joejaxx | sistpoty: how do i know how far down the queue packages are for revu lol it does not say on the revu site | 06:11 |
| Fujitsu | .. checkinstall is something to be scared of. | 06:11 |
| === joejaxx dislikes checkinstall | ||
| Hobbsee | oh whee, this looks weird | 06:11 |
| harrisony | Fujitsu: is it i just used it today, whats so bad | 06:11 |
| Hobbsee | harrisony: we arent. but checkinstall is evil | 06:11 |
| sistpoty | joejaxx: there is no queue... only random motu's picking random packages or getting randomly pinged ;) | 06:11 |
| joejaxx | oh | 06:11 |
| === joejaxx thought there was a queue | ||
| joejaxx | lol | 06:12 |
| sistpoty | joejaxx: the order in which the packages are displayed is really strange... we introduced it since a very long time (as a feature) and never changed it back since then | 06:12 |
| joejaxx | oh ok | 06:12 |
| sistpoty | joejaxx: it's something like most comments and most uploads and you'll end up at the top | 06:12 |
| sistpoty | iirc | 06:12 |
| sistpoty | *g* | 06:13 |
| joejaxx | sistpoty: ah! ok | 06:13 |
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| === Hobbsee wonders how long wine takes to build | ||
| joejaxx | sistpoty: thank you for the information :) | 06:13 |
| Nafallo | sistpoty: should we sleep soon? :-) | 06:13 |
| bddebian | Hobbsee: It's not too bad | 06:13 |
| sistpoty | Nafallo: /me definitely does *G* | 06:13 |
| sistpoty | joejaxx: np | 06:13 |
| Nafallo | sistpoty: :-) | 06:13 |
| sistpoty | #define night day | 06:14 |
| persia | sistpoty: Thanks. You might look at 48120 as well :) | 06:14 |
| Nafallo | haha | 06:14 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, > 2 hours, generally. | 06:14 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: argh | 06:14 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: right. | 06:14 |
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| sistpoty | persia: give me a few minutes, then I'll look at it | 06:14 |
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| bddebian | Hobbsee: Just make sure you pull it from winehq and not Debian :-) | 06:15 |
| joejaxx | sistpoty: i will wait then the package i did was a meta | 06:15 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: well, yeah, of course. is it complicated? | 06:15 |
| bddebian | Hobbsee: Nah, not bad | 06:15 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: do you know if i take the actual source, or the soruce for ubuntu? | 06:15 |
| bddebian | I would take the actual source but I'm not too smart ya know :-) | 06:15 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 06:16 |
| sistpoty | can you make it amd64 clean please? *g* | 06:16 |
| bddebian | blech | 06:16 |
| bddebian | Who the hell wants wine anyway? :-) | 06:16 |
| Hobbsee | sistpoty: no. i dont run amd64 | 06:17 |
| sistpoty | Hobbsee: arg *g* | 06:17 |
| Hobbsee | lol | 06:17 |
| persia | bddebian: gamers and musicians mostly | 06:18 |
| sistpoty | argl... I've been building the edgy clamav version in a dapper changeroot. *slapping myself* | 06:19 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: what's the command to diff between two folders again? | 06:21 |
| sistpoty | Hobbsee: diff -Nur folder1 folder2 | 06:23 |
| Nafallo | ruN | 06:23 |
| Nafallo | it's easier to remember :-) | 06:23 |
| Hobbsee | sistpoty: thanks, that's waht i thought | 06:24 |
| Hobbsee | which means these two are the same | 06:24 |
| sistpoty | np | 06:24 |
| Nafallo | can't. keep. eyes. opened... | 06:26 |
| sistpoty | gn8 Nafallo | 06:26 |
| Nafallo | gnight ;-) | 06:27 |
| bddebian | Gnight Nafallo :-) | 06:28 |
| === Hobbsee will attempt to build that when she comes home | ||
| tritium | hi bddebian | 06:30 |
| bddebian | tritium!! Where have you been hiding?? | 06:30 |
| bddebian | You're the one that got me into this mess.. ;-P | 06:30 |
| tritium | Um, at work, I guess. How are you? | 06:30 |
| Hobbsee | hey tritium!!! | 06:31 |
| bddebian | Busy but good thanks | 06:31 |
| tritium | Hi Hobbsee :) | 06:31 |
| tritium | I saw you mention wine. Funny you should mention that. I was trying to install MS Project via wine today. heh. | 06:31 |
| Hobbsee | lol | 06:32 |
| tritium | didn't work ;) | 06:32 |
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| Hobbsee | haha | 06:32 |
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| ScottK | Good night everyone. Thanks for all your help. | 06:35 |
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| bddebian | Gnight ScottK | 06:36 |
| bddebian | tritium: Are you mad? :-) | 06:36 |
| bddebian | Project is a pig even in Windows :-) | 06:36 |
| sistpoty | gn8 ScottK | 06:38 |
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| tritium | bddebian: nah | 06:43 |
| tritium | But I need it for my job. | 06:44 |
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| bddebian | Gnight gang | 07:03 |
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| sistpoty | gn8 everyone | 07:33 |
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| cypher1 | does a source package having dependency on sysvinit is correct ? | 09:29 |
| zakame | why, what does it need on sysvinit? | 09:30 |
| cypher1 | zakame, it needs /usr/include/initreq.h | 09:30 |
| zakame | ah | 09:32 |
| cypher1 | zakame, if we put a dependency then people who want to build the source may then have to remove upstart, correct ? | 09:47 |
| zakame | not sure... probably so | 09:49 |
| cypher1 | zakame, i think so.. pbuilder removed it | 09:50 |
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| Fujitsu | keescook, there's no give-back facility on the security buildds!? | 10:32 |
| keescook | Fujitsu: there is, but it's a nightmare to manage (and I'm not an archive admin) | 10:33 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 10:33 |
| keescook | so I just bump the version and hand-wave the changelog and it all works out. :) | 10:33 |
| Fujitsu | Yep. | 10:33 |
| Fujitsu | I can't see the Dapper builds on LP... Does it have to go through the normal LP source-`publishing' cycles as well? | 10:34 |
| keescook | it bypasses the build, but it goes through a publishing cycle. | 10:34 |
| keescook | generally stuff uploaded before x:55 o'clock will show up around x+1:35 | 10:35 |
| Fujitsu | OK. | 10:35 |
| keescook | (oh, I also uploaded the sparc fix to feisty) | 10:36 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks. | 10:36 |
| keescook | I love it! More people doing security updates! *bounce around happily* | 10:37 |
| zakame | hehe | 10:39 |
| keescook | hiya zakame! | 10:39 |
| Fujitsu | Are there any more universe security bugs subscribed to ubuntu-security but not motu-swat? | 10:39 |
| zakame | yo keescook | 10:39 |
| crimsun | wha, motu-swat? | 10:39 |
| keescook | Fujitsu: I didn't do a full sweep, figured I'd double-check that on Monday. | 10:39 |
| Fujitsu | crimsun, yeah. The new universe security team. | 10:40 |
| crimsun | right, I just applied. | 10:40 |
| keescook | crimsun: not getting enough bugmail, eh? :) | 10:41 |
| Fujitsu | keescook, hahah. | 10:41 |
| crimsun | it's like crack | 10:41 |
| keescook | hehe | 10:41 |
| Fujitsu | What's the point of having some 350 bugs assigned to MOTU? | 10:43 |
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| persia | Fujitsu: It makes a nice list for those of us who troll malone looking for things to patch. | 10:44 |
| Fujitsu | persia, I supposer. | 10:45 |
| Fujitsu | *suppose | 10:45 |
| Fujitsu | I find it a little deceptive to have them assigned, though. | 10:47 |
| Fujitsu | Normally the assignee is actually going to be doing something. | 10:47 |
| Fujitsu | If they're assigned to MOTU, they won't appear in `unassigned' searches. | 10:47 |
| Fujitsu | Even though nobody is working on them. | 10:47 |
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| persia | Fujitsu: Perhaps you're right. On the other hand, if separates triage from fixes. There's not much activity in #ubuntu-bugs today, but in the past there have been days with much triage (and no patches) being discussed there. | 10:49 |
| Fujitsu | Bug statuses exist for a reason. After they're Confirmed, triage is over. | 10:50 |
| persia | Fujitsu: WIth the new set of Status listings, your interpretation is probably more correct (I've been away for a while, and my understanding is likely not current) | 10:51 |
| Fujitsu | The statuses haven't changed in well over a year. | 10:51 |
| persia | Fujitsu: Yep. | 10:52 |
| Fujitsu | In fact, I can't remember them ever being different... | 10:52 |
| persia | Fujitsu: A long, long time ago they were something like New, Confirmed, Assigned, Fixed (based on the old bugzilla categories). Like I said, assignment to MOTU is probably no longer correct. | 10:53 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 10:54 |
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| vil | hello | 02:18 |
| pkern | Is there some good CDBS documentation available? I wanted to extend an existing Ubuntu package to run some tests which are included in the source tree. | 02:18 |
| pkern | (i.e. I need to integrate a check target somehow...) | 02:19 |
| vil | i have a problem with building eclipse-cdt package on ia64. the build log from LP does not give me enough info. is there an ia64 machine that i coul | 02:20 |
| vil | could get access to? | 02:20 |
| vil | pkern: try /usr/share/doc/cdbs/cdbs-doc.html | 02:21 |
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| pkern | vil: Thanks. (: | 02:23 |
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| ogra | white, i'm fine with requesting a sync of marble from experimental ... what about libunwind7, is that needed ? (seems there is no package yet) | 03:34 |
| doko | libunwind7 is ia64 only | 03:45 |
| Lure | any motu willing to upload eqonomize for me: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3979 | 03:46 |
| Lure | it is simple new upstream release (the rest is the same) | 03:46 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:55 |
| persia | bddebian: Hi | 03:56 |
| bddebian | Hi Emmet | 03:56 |
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| Riddell | Lure: maybe Hobbsee will upload for you | 04:12 |
| Lure | Riddell: she is on Windows today ;-) | 04:13 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: what am i uploading? | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | nah, i'm back to linux | 04:14 |
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| Lure | Hobbsee: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3979 | 04:14 |
| Riddell | 14:46 < Lure> it is simple new upstream release (the rest is the same) | 04:14 |
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| Hobbsee | Lure: heh | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: any chance we could get the homepage included in the long description of debian/control? i know you didnt neglect that in the first place | 04:17 |
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| Lure | Hobbsee: sure, I can add that - just put all suggestions to revu and I will fix it | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: that was my only one | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | standards version is 3.7.2.2, if i'm being really picky | 04:18 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: ok - doing it now ;-) | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 04:19 |
| Riddell | you don't tend to put the last point figure in the standards version | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: revu comments tend to say that | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | it's more the lack of home page that i'm being picky about :P | 04:21 |
| Riddell | ok, /I/ only put standards version in to three figures :) | 04:22 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:22 |
| === bddebian too | ||
| Hobbsee | Riddell: there appears to be no set "checklist for reviewing" and such | 04:22 |
| Hobbsee | well, not much of one | 04:24 |
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| Lure | Hobbsee: updated package is on revu | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: yay :) | 04:37 |
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| Hobbsee | Lure: uploading | 04:48 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: thanks! | 04:48 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 04:50 |
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| ryanakca | how do I fix http://pastebin.ca/307140 ? | 05:39 |
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| Lutin | ryanakca: missing shebang is #!/bin/sh | 05:45 |
| Lutin | ryanakca: seems that your package contains shared libs, which means you'll have to split the package to put those libs apart from the binary | 05:46 |
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| Lutin | ryanakca: oops sorry forget my 2nd comment, I didn't read your comment | 05:49 |
| simu | Where can I read about the process of fixing bugs and building a new package? | 05:49 |
| Lutin | hay motus, could someone have a look to http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3981 ? | 05:50 |
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| Lure | ryanakca: debian packages are typically split to multiple binary packages libXXX and XXX in such cases | 05:51 |
| Lure | ryanakca: and then XXX depends on libXXX | 05:51 |
| cat | okay i found a bug on firefox | 05:52 |
| cat | that's interesting | 05:52 |
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| Lutin | Lure: usually yes for shared libs, but maybe not for plugins | 06:01 |
| ryanakca | yeah.... | 06:02 |
| ryanakca | and how would I split it into multiple binary packages? | 06:03 |
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| Lutin | ryanakca: is it on revu ? | 06:03 |
| ryanakca | Lutin: not the up to date version, just a sec | 06:03 |
| Lure | ryanakca: just more entries in debian/control | 06:03 |
| Lure | ryanakca: check kde-guidance or any kde package (most are multi-binary) | 06:04 |
| ryanakca | that's it? kk, have an example package that I could use to figure it ou | 06:04 |
| ryanakca | kk | 06:04 |
| ryanakca | E: solseek_0.8a-0ubuntu1_source.changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file feisty I can ignore, right? | 06:05 |
| Lutin | ryanakca: yep | 06:05 |
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| ryanakca | Lutin: uploaded, just waiting for REVU to update itself | 06:11 |
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| ryanakca | Lutin: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3982 | 06:13 |
| === ryanakca is still trying to find a libXXX and XXX source package... | ||
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| Adri2000 | argghhhh | 06:21 |
| Adri2000 | revu admin needed | 06:21 |
| Lure | ryanakca: check powersave | 06:21 |
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| ryanakca | kk, ty | 06:23 |
| ryanakca | 2996 ryan 25 0 7552 4868 1308 R 79.1 1.3 0:11.98 gpg | 06:23 |
| ryanakca | O.O... 79.1% CPU? that's crazy... | 06:24 |
| Adri2000 | raphink, siretart: ping | 06:24 |
| siretart | Adri2000: You sent me a contentless ping. This is a contentless pong. Please provide a bit of information about what you want and I'll respond when I am around. | 06:24 |
| Adri2000 | ehhh | 06:24 |
| rexbron | general comment on revu mailing list, we need a spam filter | 06:24 |
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| raphink | pong Adri2000 | 06:24 |
| Adri2000 | raphink: I uploaded libdjconsole to revu instead of mentors.debian.net | 06:24 |
| raphink | ;h; | 06:25 |
| raphink | mhm | 06:25 |
| Adri2000 | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3983 | 06:25 |
| raphink | and so what do you need? | 06:25 |
| raphink | you want me to nuke it? | 06:26 |
| Adri2000 | yes please | 06:26 |
| jdong | ryanakca: what on earth are you signing? | 06:26 |
| raphink | Adri2000: archived | 06:28 |
| Adri2000 | thanks | 06:28 |
| ryanakca | jdong: nothing... it's dpkg-source -x powersave_0.14.0-2ubuntu1.dsc ... because apt-get source powersave spit out "Unpack command 'dpkg-source -x powersave_0.14.0-2ubuntu1.dsc' failed. Check that the 'dpkg-dev' package is installed." | 06:28 |
| jdong | hehe :) | 06:29 |
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| ryanakca | Lure: so, I would name it libsolseek? the number at the end is random or ? | 06:32 |
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| Lure | ryanakca: number at the end is soname | 06:48 |
| Lure | ryanakca: it is increased when API/ABI of a library changes | 06:48 |
| Lure | ryanakca: same number is also appended to .so file | 06:49 |
| Lure | ryanakca: check some other libs around | 06:49 |
| Lure | ryanakca: maybe libs in this package already have appropriate soname, so you would just use that in package name | 06:50 |
| jdong | ha, this is great... yet another use for canned air | 06:58 |
| jdong | freeze-spray the thermostat to warm up the room :) | 06:59 |
| imbrandon | why not just adjust the thermostat ? | 07:04 |
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| jdong | imbrandon: office building, restricted thermostats | 07:09 |
| jdong | particularly on weekends | 07:09 |
| jdong | and they have free cans of dust-off in the supply cabinet, so it's definitely a goofing-off day | 07:10 |
| jdong | (they make sweet model rockets btw) | 07:10 |
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| ryanakca | Lure: kk | 07:18 |
| vil | hi all | 07:20 |
| vil | i have a problem with building eclipse-cdt package on ia64. the build log from LP does not give me enough info. is there an ia64 machine that i could get access to? | 07:21 |
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| ryanakca | jdong: lol | 07:48 |
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| somerville32 | Umm... Does anyone know of a package that creates a user account called "sashroot"? | 07:54 |
| somerville32 | I just found an account called "sashroot" that has a uid of 0 | 07:54 |
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| somerville32 | ah, google to the rescue :] | 07:56 |
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| joejaxx | Good Morning All | 08:21 |
| Nafallo | morning joejaxx :-) | 08:22 |
| joejaxx | :) | 08:22 |
| joejaxx | or reall Good Afternoon here lol | 08:22 |
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| joejaxx | s/reall/really/g | 08:22 |
| Nafallo | 20:22 CET :-) | 08:23 |
| joejaxx | Nafallo: really? | 08:25 |
| joejaxx | it is 14:25 here :) | 08:26 |
| joejaxx | being in different timezones is fun | 08:26 |
| joejaxx | it could be lunch for someone else when it is nighttime where you are | 08:26 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 08:26 |
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| siretart | slomo? | 10:32 |
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| ScottK | If there are any MOTUs around, I have a minor upstream upate (bug fixes and documentation improvments) and some packaging improvments for REVU. | 10:52 |
| ScottK | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3984 | 10:52 |
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| Adri2000 | how can I update config.{sub,guess} without making the .diff.gz unreadable? | 11:00 |
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| shawarma | Adri2000: huh? You want to change config.{sub,guess} without changing it? | 11:51 |
| Adri2000 | yes :P | 11:51 |
| shawarma | Sound dirty. | 11:52 |
| shawarma | I like it! :-) | 11:52 |
| tepsipakki | adri2000: use cdbs | 11:52 |
| shawarma | tepsipakki: That'll still "mess up" the diff. | 11:52 |
| Adri2000 | I will ask upstream to update config.{sub,guess} directly in the orig.tar.gz, it's the best solution :) | 11:53 |
| tepsipakki | shawarma: it does? Hasn't seen that myself.. | 11:53 |
| tepsipakki | guess I've been lucky ;) | 11:53 |
| slomo | siretart: yes? :) congrats to your account creation btw ;) | 11:53 |
| shawarma | tepsipakki: I can't rule out that cdbs might have weird magic for "fixing" it.. I doubt it, though. | 11:53 |
| tepsipakki | s/has/have/ | 11:53 |
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| tepsipakki | it does IIRC, read the docs :) | 11:54 |
| shawarma | Heh... cdbs: The gift that keeps giving. | 11:54 |
| tepsipakki | the manual could be better, though | 11:55 |
| tepsipakki | for the "hard stuff" | 11:55 |
| shawarma | tepsipakki: Oh, indeed it does. It copies back the old config.* when cleaning. | 11:55 |
| siretart | slomo: I wanted to congratulate you as well! :) | 11:55 |
| shawarma | Adri2000: Well, you could alter the configure and clean targets to backup your config.* and restore them, respectively. | 11:57 |
| slomo | siretart: thanks :) did you already upload something? ;) | 11:58 |
| shawarma | Adri2000: ...but since the point probably is to keep the diff small, it's not really very helpful. :-) | 11:58 |
| Adri2000 | :p | 11:58 |
| shawarma | slomo, siretart: Are you talking about Debian accounts? | 12:00 |
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