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[08:50] <AlexExtreme> sheesh
[08:51] <AlexExtreme> *finally* got linux up and running on my new machine, there seems to be a kernel bug with something in it
[08:51] <AlexExtreme> does ubuntu have any issues with Athlon 64 X2 processors or nForce 550 boards?
[08:54] <Keybuk> not that I'm aware of
[08:54] <Keybuk> what was happening?
[08:54] <AlexExtreme> I get a kernel panic on boot with apic, it'll only boot with noapic on the command line
[08:55] <AlexExtreme> happens with every kernel I've tried so far
[08:56] <Keybuk> kernel bug, most likely
[08:56] <Keybuk> or motherboard bug
[08:57] <Keybuk> tried updating the bios?
[08:57] <AlexExtreme> yep, it's the latest revision
[08:57] <AlexExtreme> it wouldn't even boot more than once without resetting CMOS on the BIOS it came with
[08:58] <Keybuk> heh
[08:58] <Keybuk> seems a common problem with that board according to the interwobble
[08:59] <AlexExtreme> interwobble?
[08:59] <Keybuk> web
[08:59] <AlexExtreme> ah
[08:59] <AlexExtreme> it's an abit KN9S board
[09:01] <_ion> Seems like abit knows how to make buggy hardware. ;-)
[09:01] <_ion> Case in point: Abit BP6, which i happen to have.
[09:04] <AlexExtreme> what problems do you have with that?
[09:06] <_ion> Its ATA66 controller is notorious for being almost unusable. I ended up buying a PCI SATA controller.
[09:06] <AlexExtreme> ah
[09:06] <AlexExtreme> sata on this board is fine
[09:06] <AlexExtreme> it's just those BIOS bugs (solved with update) and the apic bug
[09:07] <AlexExtreme> what mystifies me, is why it shipped with the original BIOS revision from july or something when I bought it like, 2 days ago
[09:09] <wasabi__> heh. there's only 3 packages in the commercial repos?
[09:09] <Keybuk> noapic and pci=noacpi are the Ibuprofen and Paracetemol of the Linux world
[09:10] <Keybuk> they cure all ills
[09:10] <Keybuk> I personally swear by Asus for motherboards
[09:11] <Keybuk> the A8N-SLI I have has never had a single problem
[09:11] <Keybuk> but then again, elmo had exactly the same board in a machine, and it OOPSd every time he tried to use the on-board ethernet
[09:11] <AlexExtreme> hah
[09:11] <AlexExtreme> well
[09:11] <wasabi__> i've got this great problem at work with the latest kernel in fiesty...
[09:11] <AlexExtreme> my dad's ASUS board is quite good
[09:11] <wasabi__> locks up on boot while "checking aperture"
[09:13] <Keybuk> sendmsg(3, {msg_name(22)={sa_family=AF_FILE, path=@/com/ubuntu/upstart}, msg_iov
[09:13] <Keybuk> (1)=[{"upstart\n\0\0\0\10\0\0\0\nrunlevel-2", 26}] , msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=
[09:13] <Keybuk> 0}, 0) = 26
[09:13] <Keybuk> whee!
[09:13] <Keybuk> (and sometimes I think strace is getting too good at decoding syscalls into useful output)
[09:14] <_ion> [artificially sped up low voice]  This channel is sponsored Pfizer
[09:14] <AlexExtreme> hah
[09:15] <_ion> Batteries not included
[09:16] <AlexExtreme> ahhh, good old windows. i'm setting up my old machine for my mum, it's had windows installed for barely 2 hours and it's got adware on already ;)
[09:16] <_ion> Why Windows?
[09:16] <AlexExtreme> my mum doesn't like Linux
[09:16] <AlexExtreme> she's used to windows and she despises change
[09:17] <Keybuk> does she ever upgrade Windows?
[09:18] <AlexExtreme> she likes 2000
[09:18] <AlexExtreme> but I can't install XP on her box, because I don't have a license and don't want to pay for one
[09:18] <Keybuk> ring them up and ask for a key
[09:19] <AlexExtreme> you think it'll be that easy? ;)
[09:21] <Keybuk> it is
[09:21] <AlexExtreme> does it cost anything?
[09:21] <hunger> AlexExtreme: It is free.
[09:22] <AlexExtreme> interesting
[09:22] <wasabi__> what are you talking about?
[09:22] <Keybuk> I think they assume anyone who rings up and innocently claims that XP isn't accepting their license key, can't possibly be thieving, because no thief would ring them :p
[09:22] <hunger> AlexExtreme: Even ringing them up is free:-( But you are supposed to have a license.
[09:23] <AlexExtreme> hah
[09:23] <AlexExtreme> but
[09:23] <wasabi__> still noy legal
[09:23] <wasabi__> not
[09:23] <Keybuk> well, no :p
[09:24] <wasabi__> if legal wasn't a concern you could just download an iso from a torrent in about 10 minutes
[09:24] <AlexExtreme> I have a copy of XP with a license, but it's already installed on my sister's machine therefore installing it and activating it on another machine would mean that I'd have Microsoft's lawyers on my doorstep within 10 minutes
[09:24] <wasabi__> not exactly. ;)
[09:27] <AlexExtreme> anyway
[09:28] <AlexExtreme> going to test my new machine with a bit of gaming, bbl
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[11:14] <Archenzo> Hi I i have lost my password
[11:15] <Archenzo> I cant chat in private
[11:15] <wasabi__> password for what?
[11:15] <Archenzo> could you help me
[11:15] <wasabi__> You've picked an odd channel to ask for help in.
[11:16] <Archenzo> irc.freenode.net wikipedia-it
[11:16] <Archenzo> I am registered in
[11:17] <wasabi__> how about #freenode?
[11:17] <wasabi__> does upstart have anything to do with this?
[11:18] <Archenzo> Sorry many thanks! By by
[11:18] <_ion> That was interesting.
[11:18] <wasabi__> happens alot for some reason
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[11:20] <Keybuk> :)
[11:21] <wasabi__> What, are they just following him?
[11:31] <Keybuk> he's a freenode staff member
[11:31] <Keybuk> I guess there's some command to look them up
[11:31] <Keybuk> then they /whois him, and join the first channel in his list
[11:31] <Keybuk> which happens to be this one :p
[11:35] <wasabi__> and they can figure out all of that
[11:35] <wasabi__> without realizing that upstart has nothing to do with them?
[11:45] <Keybuk> indeed