=== gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === HeathenDan [n=blarg@125.212.82.164] has joined #xubuntu [12:42] how come when i click on networking, i get "the configuration could not be loaded" error? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu [12:48] n8 [12:48] bye === kalikiana7 [n=kalikian@xdsl-213-168-121-72.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [12:52] HeathenDan: Which version of Xubuntu are you on? [12:53] edgy [12:53] Upgrade recently? [12:53] any reccomendations for a firewall? [12:53] no, fresh install.... i did update some files via synaptic [12:54] ahh PuMpErNiCkLe the holy grail himself lol what up [12:54] magic_ninja: Firestarter is a decent front-end to the built-in firewall features. [12:54] magic_ninja, iptables is on by default. you can download firestarter to config it, but it has lots of dependencies (bloat) [12:54] ^_^ [12:55] i really don't want to use command line to configure something that complex, i'm just not that advanced, and i got plenty of space [12:55] HeathenDan: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286260&page=2 [12:55] PuMpErNiCkLe, i was reading the bugs in launchpad, and it seems my prob is mostly for those upgrading from dapper: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/59946 [12:55] Malone bug 59946 in gnome-system-tools "Admin tools require admin group membership" [High,Fix committed] [12:55] It looks like either a) a problem with dbus, solved by reinstalling the dbus components or b) you're not in the admin group. [12:56] i got one more q, when i try to use soundconverter to convert files it says that the wav gstreamer plugin isn't found but doesn't give much else, any ideas [12:56] oh, lemme see that link [12:56] i'm on admin group, i checked users-admin [12:56] It could be dbus, then. [12:56] download gstreamer [12:57] ok, time to synaptic dbus [12:58] !dbus [12:58] dbus: simple interprocess messaging system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.93-0ubuntu3.1 (edgy), package size 312 kB, installed size 660 kB [12:58] that have anything to do with the latest dbus updates? [12:58] just the dbus package? [01:00] argh, now i have to reinstall it in my laptop too :( [01:01] dbus and libdbus-1-3 [01:03] alrighty [01:04] i assume i have to reboot to fix this, or will this work immediately? [01:04] hmm, doesn't work... i guess a reboot is needed after all [01:05] Looks like it. [01:06] bbiab === smfallows [n=scott@CPE-24-167-228-173.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === curiogeo [n=curiogeo@bas13-ottawa23-1177956525.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [01:10] newbie question - I have added a network card to my server and it did nt recognize and mount it upon rebooting. How do i get the OS to recognize and initialize it? [01:10] What kind of network card is it? [01:10] Make/model. === smfallows [n=scott@CPE-24-167-228-173.wi.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] [01:12] D-link DFE-530tx [01:14] I am guessing i should be checking a hardware matrix somewhere? [01:16] (PuMp) any help for me here? [01:16] Hang on a sec. [01:17] Okay, it uses the via-rhine module. [01:17] This should be included by default. [01:18] Does it show up in 'lsmod'? [01:19] I will have to check [01:19] I lost the first network card when I added it so i have to walk over to the box [01:20] lsmod should list the device I guess? [01:20] lsmod lists all loaded kernel modules. One of them should be via-rhine. [01:21] yes i see one named mii and it says via rhine after the process id [01:22] Okay, that shows that 'mii' is used by via-rhine... via-rhine will be listed seprately, as well. [01:23] You have two network adapters in the box now? [01:23] yes [01:24] the first one was working by defaultand I did nothing to init it [01:24] now it is not working either [01:24] that is to say i cannot ping out through it but I can ping it locally [01:25] no access to the gateway [01:25] local loop works [01:25] local I{ works [01:25] ip [01:26] I was messing around with the interfaces file and erased all of the other interfaces [01:26] Okay, in administration -> networking, which interfaces does it show? [01:26] I am working from the command line [01:27] so I am editng the /etc/network/interfaces file === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #xubuntu [01:29] Does it have a line saying 'auto eth0' or 'auto eth1' or something similar? [01:29] in that file I have three interfaces [01:29] lo [01:29] auto eth1 [01:29] and auto eth2 === HeathenDan [n=blarg@125.212.82.164] has joined #xubuntu [01:29] both have staic address [01:30] static [01:30] success! [01:30] should I add eth0 [01:30] HeathenDan: props [01:30] dbus reinstall didn't do it though [01:31] i had to.... add myself to the "root" group >.> [01:31] That's unusual... [01:32] curiogeo: One of them should probably be eth0, the other eth1. [01:32] so the fact that I erased eth0 is probably the issue [01:33] Could be. [01:33] what is the correct syntax for a auto eth0 [01:33] 'auto eth0' [01:33] to have a dynamic IP [01:33] That's it. [01:33] If you want, I can pastebin mine as a reference. [01:33] auto eth0 [01:34] no need to specify static or dhcp [01:34] I will try adding auto eth0 right now and let you know [01:34] BRB [01:34] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/594/ [01:46] I have to go, but if you get the file set up properly, you should be able to bring up an interface with 'ifup'. [01:46] can someone pastebin me a good sources.list? =\ [01:46] !easysource [01:46] source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic [01:47] one more question if you have time [01:47] the new interface works but the old one is not able to ping the gateway [01:47] what should I check? [01:48] if not thanks for your help my new interface is up and working after ifup [01:49] Anyone who can tell me how to debug an existing network card [01:51] thanks PuMpErNiCkLe === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #xubuntu [01:52] yes thank you very much PuMpErNiCkLe [01:52] my second interface just mysteriously came back up === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@static-72-86-135-233.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === Commander_ [n=Commande@dialup-4.246.218.85.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === Chris1978 [n=Miranda@crmp-26.res.umass.edu] has joined #xubuntu [02:24] ok I'm about ready to give up on trying to install Xubuntu [02:24] I've been at this for way too many hours without much progress [02:25] Is 32 bit a lot easier to install than 64 bit? or is Ubuntu easier than Xubuntu? [02:26] I was able to get it to boot to the desktop but I get no icons and keyboard shortcuts don't work at all [02:26] you should not see any difference between ubuntu and xubuntu installs [02:27] Well my system is somewhat new [02:27] Is there a specific piece of hardware that could be causing my problems [02:27] there are no desktop icons on a fresh xubuntu install === Commander|away [n=thomas@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu [02:27] Maybe if I can figure out what is wrong I can fix it [02:28] ok fine there aren't supposed to be icons [02:28] but I should be able to bring up a terminal right? [02:28] yeah [02:28] all I get is a mouse cursor and a background [02:29] not panels? [02:29] like task bars [02:29] nope [02:29] just a wallpaper [02:29] .... [02:29] that does not sound right.... [02:30] do you think mentioning my system specs would help? === Commander|away is now known as Commander_Crowe === Commander_Crowe is now known as Commander-Crowe [02:31] can you get a terminal when you hit [02:31] nope [02:31] I tried that [02:31] can't seem to do anything [02:31] 32 bit or 64 bit? [02:32] 64 bit [02:32] i never did an install on 64 bit [02:32] is 6.06 worth trying and then upgrading? [02:33] there are issues with upgrading [02:33] also when I rebooted after the time I got nothing but a background it had corrupted my GRUB so I had to reinstall Windows too [02:34] are you using a 64 bit install disk? [02:34] yes [02:34] 64 bit proc and disk [02:34] tried the regular disk and the alternate [02:35] tried safe graphics mode or whatever it is as well as regular and text mode and even oem mode [02:35] try using the alt cd and making a terminal system... [02:35] without noapic nolapic vga=ask I can't even get to where I got [02:35] ok I can try that [02:35] then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [02:36] but after I get the terminal system if I do what do I do next? [02:36] oh ok [02:36] thanks [02:36] i type slow [02:36] =] [02:36] me too === maxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:37] so that full command would be sudo apt-get install xubuntu desktop ? [02:38] I'm new to Linux [02:38] so far complete failure [02:38] Chris1978: "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop" (without the quotes) [02:38] once I get it up and running though I expect it won't be so hard [02:38] sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [02:38] !why aptitude [02:38] xubuntu-desktop [02:38] Sorry, I don't know anything about why aptitude - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi === DarthLap1y [n=Angus@CPE-58-168-254-118.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #xubuntu [02:39] ermmm... #debian bot knows what's up :) [02:40] wait so which one is the correct one? [02:40] apt-get or aptitude? [02:41] Chris1978: both === vidd_laptop recomends apt-get [02:41] vidd_laptop: why? [02:41] he is new [02:41] yup brand new [02:41] why not start with good habits? :) [02:41] he already knows apt-get [02:41] oh ... ok [02:42] are they equivalent? [02:42] yeah, everyone starts on apt-get because it has been around longer [02:42] I'm willing to learn [02:42] that is partly the point [02:42] Chris1978: to you, as a new user ... they are equivalent, aptitude does a little more in the back ground ... [02:43] alright [02:43] so I'm going to use the alternate Live CD to install a terminal environment? [02:44] and then use that command? [02:44] Chris1978: correct [02:44] ok [02:44] command line system [02:44] I'm going to attempt to do so and then report back here when I can [02:44] ok [02:44] right command line system [02:45] we shall be here [02:45] ok great [02:45] ttyl [02:45] yeah... we will, have nothing better to do === maxamillion needs to figure out how to install debian off a usb pen drive [02:47] does your mother board have the ability to boot from usb? [02:49] i dunno ... its an older laptop i found ... lemme get you a link to it [02:53] vidd_laptop: http://news.com.com/Sony+chooses+Transmeta+again/2100-1040_3-257718.html [02:54] vidd_laptop: i was given this for free and i want linux on it.. but knoppix won't even get past the initial kernel load, for some reason it can't find its external hard drive [02:54] im looking [02:55] i can't seem to think of anything ... i even tried booting a live cd based on the gnu/freebsd-kernel debian project ... no luck there either [02:56] how you get one of these free???? [02:56] ... [02:56] anyway [02:57] friend's dad bought it brand new 4 years ago ... didn't like it, gave it to me [02:57] did you check the way the system boots? [02:57] he was like "you're the computer guy" ... here [02:58] vidd_laptop: "the way"? ... as in the bios? ... it doesn't explicitly claim to boot usb, but it does say it will boot from removable devices (the floppy drive is usb and it will boot from that, so i assume) [02:58] all the components on this thing are external ... [02:58] where can i download w32codecs for edgy? [02:58] !w32codecs [02:58] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [02:59] you have an internal hard drive? [03:01] yeah ... the hdd is internal and i can't get to it ... thought about removing the hdd and putting it into a case with a converter to install, but there are atleast 2 screws i can't find and if i did ... i'm sure i don't have a small enough screw driver [03:02] i have installed ubuntu on it before ... i think 5.04 worked [03:03] (i obtained an old copy from a friend while he was trying to "show me the light" from my debian desktop days .... took a year for me to "get it" :P [03:03] ) [03:04] you try putting 5.04 back on it and run trough the upgrades? === Stonekeeper [n=lea@81.168.113.60] has joined #xubuntu === Chris1978 [n=Miranda@crmp-26.res.umass.edu] has joined #xubuntu [03:06] well it told me package xubuntu not found [03:06] hi. I'm trying to install xubuntu on an old laptop that is having major issues with it's CDROM drive. I can however connect through wireless to my router. Is there a way to install over the internet? Thanks! :) [03:06] is xubuntu desktop linked with a - or _ [03:06] with a - [03:07] ok [03:07] but other than that everything seemed to go well [03:07] now is where it would mess up though if it is going to conflict with my monitor [03:08] ok I'm going to try again [03:08] Chris1978: no, conflict with your monitor would happen after xubuntu-desktop is installed ... and most of those conflicts can be fixed with ease === quad3d [n=quad3d@72.183.114.200] has joined #xubuntu === priidu [n=priit@58.247.249.9] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=j1m@adsl-75-22-16-82.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === quad3d [n=quad3d@72.183.114.200] has joined #xubuntu === Chris1978 [n=Miranda@crmp-26.res.umass.edu] has joined #xubuntu [03:47] ok I tried apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [03:47] it was working and doing a lot of stuff [03:47] however then I lost my monitor [03:47] completely? === Jester45 [n=ryan@64-91-13-94.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:48] after a while I rebooted and now if I try apt-get install xubuntu-desktop I get a message [03:48] yeah my monitor said out of scan range [03:48] HF 26.1 kHz [03:49] VF 40.2 Hz [03:49] to high of a resolution ? or vsnyc [03:49] you might have to redo it and if it says out of scan range do ctrl+alt+f1 ... should give you a command line and we can fix it from there [03:49] Range: HF 30-69kHz [03:49] Jester45: i assume too high of resolution [03:49] VF 50-120Hz [03:50] Chris1978: would you happen to know moniter max res? [03:50] guys, i just tried DSL on same laptop and it's working fine. You think the 6.10 kernel is not happy with the CDROM hardware (DSL uses 2.4.26 kernel)? You reckon going to 6.06 might solve it? [03:50] might [03:50] ima brb gota update [03:50] ZOMG [03:50] well anyways the message it gives me now is E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem [03:51] i just realized dapper still has 2.4 [03:51] at least 1280x1024 [03:51] Chris1978: ok, run the command "sudo dpkg --configure -a" [03:51] yeah I figured that much [03:51] I will run that [03:52] maxamillion, wow...hat should save you some time [03:52] =] [03:52] so if my monitor displays the error message again then pres ctrl-alt-f1 [03:52] Chris1978, yes [03:52] that should give you a terminal [03:53] alright [03:53] and then what? [03:53] vidd_laptop: i have a dapper cd ... i will just re-do the core install with the new cd instead of downloading all the new updates one release at a time :) [03:55] can I manually specify my resolution somehow? [03:55] Chris1978, yes [03:55] or the frequencies [03:55] if I can specify the frequency ranges then it should be ok right? [03:56] I have no idea what the commands would be for that sort of thing [03:56] I'm assuming there is a monitor file somewhere [03:57] but the plug and play doesn't seem to be working so well for it [03:58] and I don't know how much I'd need to know about my monitor to manually edit the file [03:58] anyone got any ideas? [03:59] it is hard to do things when you can't see [03:59] Chris1978: well ... did you do ctrl+alt+f1? [04:00] not yet [04:00] I need to know what I'm going to do after that [04:01] Chris1978: that _should_ give you a command line ... you log in, and then you will type "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" that will open the file in a text editor ... we can go from there === Jester45 [n=ryan@72-161-63-20.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:02] ok is there a text based irc I can use? [04:03] otherwise I have to reboot everytime into windows [04:03] Chris1978: you using edgy (6.10)? [04:03] yes [04:03] i have a apt upgrade problem...when i try to use apt-get upgrade a few packages are held back i removed a few that i could then i reinstall for the new version then i tried upgrade again but the same packages are held back i cant remove them [04:03] irssi -n nickname [04:03] Chris1978: "sudo aptitude install irssi" (thats the one i use) === somervil1e32 [n=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034092135.nb.aliant.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:03] maxamillion: is it default? [04:04] Hello boys and girls. I'm in irssi [04:04] good for you [04:04] Jester45: irssi was default in dapper ... but it was taken out in edgy [04:04] ok that installs it maxamillion [04:04] o [04:04] somervil1e32: welcome back to the dark side [04:04] then to actually use it to get on this channel what do I have to do? [04:04] OH lookie [04:04] A netsplit command [04:04] Chris1978: run irssi -n nicknamehere === somervil1e32 understands why Freenode has so many netsplits now. [04:05] Chris1978: now type "irssi" in the command line ... then "/server irc.freenode.net" ..... etc. [04:05] somervil1e32: lol [04:05] then type /connect irc.freenode.net [04:05] yeah ... /connect works too [04:06] would anyone like to help me with my package problem [04:06] and then the command to join this channel? [04:06] is it just /join #xubuntu? [04:06] yes [04:07] ok [04:07] I'll try it [04:07] hopefully my internet is working in xubuntu === chris___1 [n=chris@crmp-17.res.umass.edu] has joined #xubuntu [04:16] hello? [04:16] hello [04:17] nice [04:17] welcome to the real world of irc [04:17] I'm not in Windows === maxamillion assumes chris___1 is using irssi at the moment [04:17] yup [04:17] awesome! [04:17] so it seems like xubuntu-desktop is completely installed [04:18] how do I get a GUI? [04:18] well first how do I exit this program when I need to eventually so I can type in more commands? [04:19] no ... do ctrl+alt+f7 and then do ctrl+alt+backspace .... and if that doesn't work ... ctrl+alt+f1 to get back here :) === dredhammer [n=dredhamm@pool-71-247-57-3.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:20] not of those keyboard combinations did anything [04:20] *none [04:22] help [04:23] don't I have to leave the program first? [04:24] anyone still around? [04:26] Rebooting might just make it start up in GUI mode [04:26] not sure though [04:26] suppose I could try it === maxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:30] hey maxamillion [04:31] hey ... sorry, my bcm43xx wifi driver just fragged my iBook ... had to move into my computer rooms [04:31] room* [04:31] chris___1: things working? [04:31] nope [04:31] ouch [04:31] keyboard shortcuts did nothing [04:31] I'm microwaving dinner now === superkirbyartist [n=superkir@33.137.hiper0-nic2.std.dialup.ncf.ca] has joined #xubuntu [04:31] I would appreciate any help with my wireless laptop card from D-Link. I don't see a "Wireless" option in Networking. [04:32] chris___1: ok ... do ctrl+alt+f2 ... that will bring you to a new cli login, login there so that you don't have to disconnect from irc ... use ctrl+alt+f1 to view the irc and ctrl+alt+f2 to use for configuring thigns [04:32] !wifi | superkirbyartist [04:32] superkirbyartist: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [04:33] Will it tell me "The card will not work"? [04:33] superkirbyartist: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported [04:34] Firefox is slow on Pentium MMX Laptop! [04:34] superkirbyartist: math computations are slow on a pentium mmx anything [04:35] superkirbyartist: i wouldn't assume rendering a gui to be extremely speedy [04:35] maxamillion> ctrl+f2 gave me the out of range error [04:35] with alt [04:35] So pentium mmx is bad for xubuntu? [04:35] chris___1: strange ... you are in ctrl+alt+f1 right? [04:36] yup [04:36] ctrl+alt+f1 brought me back here [04:38] I'm having really weird problems I guess [04:38] at least I can chat online [04:38] thats a little strange that one tty will work but others will not... [04:39] Doesn't talk about WNA-1330 [04:39] what is tty just so I know? [04:39] !tty [04:39] To get to the tty terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login). [04:40] !info tty [04:40] Package tty does not exist in any distro I know [04:40] erm ... [04:40] like what does tty stand for? [04:41] basically just means terminal ... tty is short for "teletypewriter" [04:42] maxamillion? [04:42] superkirbyartist: yes? [04:42] ok well I tried f2-f7 and none work [04:42] superkirbyartist: oh .. sorry ... [04:43] chris___1: well .. f7 is the one used for X ... the graphical desktop ... but f1-f6 should work [04:43] And some people claimed it worked but it's not working. [04:43] can I set my monitor settings from tty f1? [04:43] yeah I'm just saying the graphics one doesn't work either === superkirbyartist has just sent a nudge! [04:44] chris___1: yeah ... write this command down .... "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ... use that, it should atleast get you a working desktop ... don't worry if some of the video performance is slow... that is just a matter of installing some drivers [04:45] superkirbyartist: when they claimed it was working did they mention anything about needing to install a module? [04:45] Not sure. [04:45] What modules are there? [04:45] a few hundred thousand i would assume [04:46] Okay, I heard of madwifi... [04:46] modules are to linux as drivers are to windows .... (well ... kinda, but that's good enough a definition for now) [04:46] superkirbyartist: yeah .. madwifi is a good program, but its just a program .... can't promise much, i use it ... install it and try it out [04:46] apt-get? [04:47] preferably aptitude ... but apt-get will suffice [04:47] so maxamillion how do I exit this program so I can put in that command you gave me? [04:47] i actually really need to go .... i should be back later though [04:47] I know how to start it again if I need to [04:48] Okay goodbye. [04:48] chris___1: /exit .... or /quit ... don't remember [04:48] but it doesn't install madwifi === grumpymole [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [04:48] !info mad-wifi [04:48] Package mad-wifi does not exist in any distro I know [04:48] !info madwifi [04:48] Package madwifi does not exist in any distro I know [04:48] !mad-wifi [04:48] Sorry, I don't know anything about mad-wifi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [04:48] !madwifi [04:48] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs === maxamillion slaps the bots === superkirbyartist slaps him even harder. [04:49] superkirbyartist: oooh, no no ... not mad wifi ... wifi-radar :P [04:49] !info wifi-radar [04:49] wifi-radar: graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 208 kB [04:49] :) [04:50] "sudo aptitude install wifi-radar" [04:50] and i must go .... [04:50] bye bye [04:50] Did anyone hear about a stupid guy named Bruenig who killed my drive? [04:51] Does anyone know about software similar / comaptible with autocad under Ubuntu ? === boris55 [n=richards@40.charlotte-23rh16rt-24rh15rt.nc.dial-access.att.net] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 [n=ryan@72-161-63-20.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana7 is now known as kalikiana [05:02] well i fixed my problem via synaptic === chris_ [n=chris@crmp-17.res.umass.edu] has joined #xubuntu [05:05] so I ran that command [05:05] and went through all the menus [05:06] still can't seem to get graphics [05:07] whats the big deal about beryl, its just pretty? [05:07] mostly [05:07] but some things might be helpful [05:07] !cad [05:07] Sorry, I don't know anything about cad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [05:08] MagicFab: give me a moment please [05:09] I want a GUI [05:09] it shouldn't take more than a full day to get one [05:09]