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[02:31] Isn't there a glade-to-qt conversion proggy? [02:34] manchicken: ooh you are working on porting the ubuntu upgrader? [02:35] Yeah. [02:36] neato [02:36] I hear you're up into that/ === pascalFR [i=oNmh58Tq@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:38] Riddell: should the status of kubuntu-update-manager be changed in feisty specs? [02:38] Riddell: btw, I pushed my own branch with some minor changes, just to remove some of the generated files that were in there [02:38] manchicken: yea, I did the adept side of things === DaSkreech [n=skreech@port0002-abm-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:51] Does amarok follow !hidden ? [02:54] Oh wow, software-properties is VERY tied to glade/gtk. [02:54] heh === mbiebl [n=michael@e180126205.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community-leader/Hawkwind] has joined #Kubuntu-Devel [04:00] Okay, anybody know what is wrong with the Python line QMessageBox.critical(None,"Error","BLAH!!!")? === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_ [n=tobias@p54A71F89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_ is now known as hunger === mbiebl [n=michael@e180126205.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121d18.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === haggai [n=halls@credativ.bcnadsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:38] w00t. [05:38] Let this Qt port begin! [05:41] Ha ha [05:42] I hope the Python coverage of Qt is better than the Perl coverage of Qt. === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.108.172] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:44] w00t, Jucato! [05:44] Hi Jucato [05:45] hi manchicken!!! [05:45] hi DaSkreech! [05:51] Riddell: You about? [05:52] This Qt port is more of a rewrite than a port. heh === Jucato wonders what it is about... [05:55] I'm working on this software-properties proggy. [05:55] oh the one for Adept? [05:55] Yeah. === Jucato declares manchicken as his Adept hero :) [05:55] manchicken: have you gotten in contact with mornfall? [05:55] Naw. [05:55] oh... ok :) [05:56] I think he uploaded some stuff to KDE SVN a few days/weeks ago... not really sure exactly when [05:57] Riddell said he wanted to use the software-properties proggie in update-manager for the sources editor. [05:58] It's written in Python with GTK/Glade. [05:58] So naturally we want to port it to Qt. [05:58] oh. I thought that it was a pure GTK+ app. [05:59] good luck then :) [05:59] Naw. The whole thing is PyGTK [05:59] Especially since I'm not used to Python ^_^ [06:00] heh :) [06:00] So, I'll talk to you later. [06:00] I'm gonna hit the hay. [06:01] good night! and good luck again! :) [06:03] heh [06:03] You could try to help ;) === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-062-115.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@209-94-138-57.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@84.13.142.118] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:23] hiya === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:24] hey all [07:24] ;) [07:24] hi Hobbsee === Jucato beds [07:25] hey Jucato! [07:25] awww, why now? [07:25] Hobbsee: slept at 3am, woke up at 7am... haven't had any snooze since then... :( [07:26] Jucato: ouch. === Hobbsee got to sleep around 4am [07:26] ooh... what time you woke up? [07:26] um....11 or so? [07:27] heh :P === Jucato will be back in 1-2 hours... bye! :) [07:28] hehe, bye! === Hobbsee wonders if mhb is using polyester, when complaining about the fonts === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:30] and lure.. [07:31] !irc logs is logs [07:31] I'll remember that, Hobbsee [07:31] !irclogs is logs [07:32] I'll remember that, Hobbsee === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:42] manchicken|away: poke [07:42] manchicken|away: will you be at the meeting? see /topic for info === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hawkwind Wonders about this meeting === Hawkwind Has been away from IRC since Christmas day when he got the Nintendo Wii [07:46] Hawkwind: see /topic [07:46] I know, I've seen it :-) [07:46] :) [07:47] oh drat, i just used /clear -a, not /clear [07:47] Doubt I'll be there though [07:47] awww === nixternal just woofed down some fresh crab legs! [07:47] raw? [07:47] heck no :) [07:47] Yummmmmmmmmmmm === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:47] Snow crab ? [07:47] i smoked some tonight [07:48] snow crab and blue crab [07:48] OMG, yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [07:48] blue crabs just arrived today from maryland, the snow crabs were alive and rockin' 2 days after they were caught :) [07:48] Nice [07:50] Good night :) [07:51] DaSkreech: Sleep well [07:51] Too late for that [07:51] I'll be glad to sleep at all [07:52] Hmmm, this meeting seems to be Monday at about 4pm GMT-6 if my calculations are correct [07:52] Hawkwind: Thanks for the sentment though [07:52] DaSkreech: Heh no problem === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:53] Hawkwind: timeanddate.com [07:53] Hawkwind: use the fixed time [07:53] Hawkwind: where are you again? [07:53] Hobbsee: Houston, Texas GMT -6 [07:53] bah houston [07:54] Bahhhh @ Chicago [07:54] hehe [07:54] you got that right [07:54] as soon as school is over i am moving to mexico [07:54] im going try and reverse the situation [07:55] I'm probably headed to Georgia(Atlanta) here in a month or so if things go as they seem they will [07:56] woo [07:56] i love hotlanta, especially the north east portion [07:56] around stone mountain [07:56] I'll probably live outside of Atlanta at first. Probably in/around Rome [07:56] I'm probably flying there this week for a job interview at Wheeler's Lumber [07:56] gah, what was i going to do? [07:56] Hobbsee: Make us all dinner ? [07:57] uh oh [07:57] Hawkwind: nope. i cant cook very well :P [07:57] Hobbsee: if it wasn't for the bbq or the microwave i wouldn't either [07:57] hehe [07:57] and i took 2 cooking classes in college thinking they would be easy A's [07:57] boy was I wrong [07:57] Hobbsee: I consider pouring milk over my bowl of cereal *cooking* [07:57] Hah [07:57] hehe [07:57] hahaha [07:58] man, my new lappy has 1 dead pixel, right in the kicker bar too [07:58] oh yeah, purge msttcorefonts, that's right.. === Hobbsee off === Hobbsee is off, rather === Hobbsee waves bye! === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-70-78.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kasina [n=dillan@212.49.89.149] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === crimsun__ [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === |infinity| [n=TheInfin@p508F319B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-70-78.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kasina [n=dillan@212.49.89.149] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubijtsa [n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-70-78.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@61.149.5.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === niroxx [n=niroxx@achn-4db4852e.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === luc__ [n=luc@230-82-244-84.zapcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:49] hi all [11:51] hey mhb! [11:51] Hobbsee: I am using polyester [11:52] Hobbsee: when having the font problem [11:52] Hobbsee: but it would be weird to blame it because I used it even before that [11:53] mhb: right [11:53] Hobbsee: nope, changing the widget style didn't work [11:54] mhb: right, good :P [11:54] then it's not my fault :P === mhb hopes that bug will be fixed before 11th === luc___ [n=luc@230-82-244-84.zapcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:58] Hobbsee: by the way, do you have suggestions for the Testing Team? [11:58] Hobbsee: I'm really looking forward to the meeting :o) [11:58] mhb: me too :) [11:58] mhb: as in, what to test, or how to run it? === luc___ [n=luc@230-82-244-84.zapcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:59] luc___: hi === luc__ [n=luc@230-82-244-84.zapcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.48.79.151] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:00] Hobbsee: as in how to convince people to start testing Feisty etc [12:01] Hobbsee: most of the folks who helped with Edgy were reluctant to start with Feisty right away [12:01] mhb: when it's hit feature freeze - there appear to still be heaps of problems booting yet. that being said, perhaps figuring out what to test, and how to collate their results === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:01] sensible people. [12:02] Hobbsee: yes [12:03] Hobbsee: but there's the "loss of momentum" problem - when they don't know what to do for a longer period of time, they move on [12:03] mhb: that's...true... [12:03] mhb: cant really help much with that, except for merges [12:03] which isnt in the target [12:05] Hobbsee: maybe someone will come up with an idea at the meeting [12:07] mhb: maybe market it as "we need people who test for a few months, then have a few months of break" etc - make it more as a casual thing, not a continous thing - you might get more people that way, if it's only a small commitment, too [12:07] mhb: if you havent already, why dont you check out the mozilla smoke test stuff, and adapt it for kubuntu. [12:10] Hobbsee: you mean the minimal set of testcases? [12:10] mhb: well, all of it really - i've never looked into it very thoroughly [12:10] mhb: but yeah [12:10] well, have minimal ones, then have big nitpicky ones [12:10] include the cd testing in it [12:11] of course, you're never going to get the large number of testers that mozilla gets, with teh daily builds and all that, but it might be a good start, might be helpful === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.48.79.151] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:35] would it be possible for a python script to add dynamically to the wiki? [12:36] or for any client-side script [12:37] thing is, editing wiki takes more time than just submitting results because you have to edit the page itself and add your input (where it belongs) [12:38] (the testers have to submit their testing results to the wiki) [12:38] true... [12:39] presumably a wiki is the best place for that [12:39] Hobbsee: it's a good place, but a hard-to-edit good place [12:39] true [12:39] not so hard if you don't include formatting :P [12:40] Jucato: but it's harder than just filling a form [12:40] oh yeah, compared to that, definitely harder :) [12:40] so I'm asking if there's a chance of making a frontend to that [12:41] mhb: dunno. [12:41] mhb: there's probably somethign [12:42] I'm not sure though [12:43] hrm. gnome doenst suck as much as it used to [12:44] Hobbsee: But some GNOME apps still do. [12:44] :D === mhb -> lunchtime [12:45] have fun! === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === shnee [n=CurtyD13@cpe-24-26-131-198.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:01] mhb: oh it still sucks a lot, dont get me wrong... [01:01] at least it's growing... nothing bad about it growing.. :) === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:01] hehe === Jucato is not anti-GNOME but very very PRO-KDE :) [01:03] hehe [01:03] well, i'm only anti gnome when i use it [01:03] and i look for the run command, and it's not there [01:04] Alt+F2? [01:04] and the themes crash 9x / 10 [01:04] doesnt bring anything up [01:04] i know it used to exist [01:04] and i cant find what i'm looking for in the menus, as i'ts all moved, and it's often big blocks of apps === Enola_Gay [n=enola@ip83.134.1511H-CUD12K-03.ish.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:05] hi all [01:05] so you have to scroll thru all of them [01:05] that being said...the update manager *is* nice [01:06] Is a graphical PPPOE client planned for Feisty? It would help dsl users very much and e.g. Knoppix already have such tool. [01:07] Enola_Gay: unless it's becomming a part of knetworkmanager from suse, or someone steps in to code it, no. [01:07] is there already a spec for it? [01:07] Knoppix's tool, iirc, is just ppoeconf using something like kdialog... [01:08] does kppp count, btw? [01:08] Hobbsee: It is just that the console tool pppoe-conf isn't so easy to find === Hobbsee notes it doesnt work OOTB though [01:08] no [01:08] ah [01:08] kppp doesn't do PPPoE [01:08] ahhh [01:08] Hobbsee: kppp seems to be only for Dial up [01:08] Enola_Gay: true that [01:08] Jucato: :) === Hobbsee brainwave...is there anything from stopping us using the knoppix tool in kubuntu? [01:09] And I think that the pppoe gui from knoppix isn't huge but I am going to check it. [01:10] Enola_Gay: unless KNOPPIX 5 has completely changed it, I'm pretty sure that it's pppoeconf [01:10] Hobbsee: the simplest solution, if we couldn't even find a good GUI for this, is to at least make a K Menu entry that will launch pppoeconf in Konsole... :( [01:10] Jucato: But pppoeconf is the console based tool? [01:11] I have tested it with Knoppix 4. [01:11] Since 5 has some huge boot problems on my laptop. [01:11] Enola_Gay: yes. but somehow, KNOPPIX runs it with a GUI... I forgot what tool/program allows that. [01:11] I burn and check it. [01:13] Is ntfs-3g integration planned for Feisty? [01:14] Enola_Gay: well, you have ntfs-3g present in Edgy repos, don't you? [01:14] Enola_Gay: just universe or something ... it's not rock solid to be in main [01:15] ah I think KNOPPIX uses something like Zenity for pppeoconf... but looking in the K Menu, it's not so evident, so I don't know what voodoo they do to make it like that [01:15] mhb: ok, thanks [01:15] Enola_Gay: no, it's not going to be by default [01:16] It is just that it makes the interoperability with Windows much more better since the "exchange partition" doesn't need to be fat32 anymore. [01:17] But stability is important of course. [01:18] but unlike KNOPPIX, Kubuntu doesn't absolutely need it imho. and yes, stability is very important === jack_at_home [n=jack@221.223.21.180] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:20] Enola_Gay: user data is rather important, true [01:21] Jucato: Since installation of a localized kubuntu still needs internet even with a dvd it makes sense imho. But locales could be reinstalled very easy through the language manager since dapper afaik. [01:21] Hobbsee: I changed the structure of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Kubuntu/Current ... not everything is there yet but I think it's more user friendly now ... please do comment :o) [01:22] And one of the greatest part of K/Ubuntu since dapper is the installer on the live cd so you could surf and do many things while installing :) [01:22] Enola_Gay: I'm not sure I understand what that has to do with ntfs-3g, which I was referring to [01:22] Jucato: Sorry, I thought it was according to gui for pppoe [01:22] Enola_Gay: the solaris installer starts a web browser for you :) [01:23] Lathiat: :) [01:23] Lathiat: But they have no messenger ;) [01:23] true dat [01:23] Enola_Gay: heh, I was replying to the statements immediately above :) [01:24] :) [01:24] Enola_Gay: by the way, any LoCo community can make modified CDs with their locales in ... the only thing is to mark it not as a official Kubuntu CD [01:25] mhb: Thats true, kubuntu.de seems to have some own reps and so own. But the official is missing for me ;) [01:25] Ok, checking knoppix. Cu all. [01:27] mhb: looks promising === hunger_ [n=tobias@p54A71F89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:36] Hobbsee: it would be great if pros like you inserted their results too [01:37] Hobbsee: after it's done [01:38] mhb: their results, ie, of their testing? [01:38] Hobbsee: yes ... I guess you do testing by using, don't you? That's what I meant. [01:39] true [01:40] Hobbsee: developers shouldn't bother with it too much but if they find the time the data will be useful [01:40] mhb: indeed. === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@86-39-7-177.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Enola_Gay [n=enola@ip83.134.1511H-CUD12K-03.ish.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:54] re [01:54] Jucato: I have found the vodoo. ;) The vodoo ist called xdialog. [01:55] oh :) [01:55] hooray! [01:55] And it works in Kubuntu too if I install xdialog. [01:55] and? [01:55] I was that close :) [01:55] see? nothing really special :P [01:55] !info xdialog [01:55] xdialog: X11 replacement for the text util dialog. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.1-1 (edgy), package size 345 kB, installed size 1128 kB [01:55] ah ha.... [01:55] But it needs libgtk 1.2 [01:55] let me try... [01:55] we install that anyway, iirc [01:55] aw... [01:55] we do? [01:56] isn't kdialog cooler? :) [01:56] On my Kubuntu edgy system it has to install libgtk1.2 and libgtk1.2-common === Jucato still can't get the hang of doing a proper depends search [01:56] fdoving: Does it work too? [01:57] yeah, kdialog is cooler, *if* it can do that... [01:57] Enola_Gay: i don't know what you want to do.. [01:57] !info kdialog [01:57] Package kdialog does not exist in any distro I know === yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.248] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:57] kdialog is part of kde [01:57] kdialog is part of kdebase [01:57] right [01:57] it's in kdebase-bin. [01:57] yes [01:58] It would be much greater if "kdialog" would work with pppoeconf but it seems to doesn't work out of the box. [01:58] in other news, Enola_Gay just got work to do === Hobbsee suspects it would need porting [01:58] heh, yes [01:58] yeah, kdialog is closer to zenity than it is with xdialog... and neither kdialog nor zenity can do it... [01:58] what is 'it' ? [01:59] pppoeconf [01:59] in Jucato's statement? kdialog [01:59] ah [01:59] At least a simple menu entry would do it for pppoeconf since it isn't hard to manage. [02:00] Jucato: xdialog is hardcoded into pppoeconf. [02:00] fdoving: um... KNOPPIX uses xdialog to give a real GUI to pppoeconf, which has an entry in K Menu [02:01] I don't have xdialog installed, and I can still have the pppoeconf ncurses gui [02:01] i mean, the usage of xdialog vs. zenity/kdialog is hardcoded into pppoeconf. [02:02] just installing xdialog and running pppoeconf will give you the gui. [02:02] aaah [02:03] fdoving: so the plan is to hardcode kdialog in? [02:03] hey cool, the uni server hasnt crashed yet... [02:03] mhb: that can be done.. rather easily. [02:03] yay fdoving will do it! :) [02:04] or Enola_Gay , if it's easy - after all, he wants to have that :o) [02:04] argh. spoke too soon [02:05] i don't belive this is something we want to have in the package.. is it? [02:05] does gnome-ubuntu use pppoeconf too? [02:06] not that I know of... [02:06] anyway, if no one wants to do that, a simple entry in K Menu to launch konsole with pppoeconf would do... [02:06] which is how MEPIS does it, afaik [02:07] no real harm in doing that === yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.248] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [02:09] but having kdialog is cooler. [02:10] yeah, having someone who'll do it is even kooler :P [02:10] hehe [02:10] thought that was my line :P [02:10] :P === pascalFR [i=KJFkjun0@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato is moving up the ladder... towards world domination! [02:12] hehe === Hobbsee feeds the MQ servers more ram [02:12] come on...be a good server...dont crash... === Hobbsee glares === hunger_ is now known as hunger [02:16] http://paste.debian.net/19644 kchmviewer keeps crash [02:17] freeflying: version? [02:18] freeflying: Feisty current? [02:18] mhb: from dapper to current [02:18] mhb: only on ppc [02:18] it works fine on debian sid [02:18] freeflying: hm ... nothing I can do :o) [02:19] freeflying: i386 works fine [02:19] like you said [02:20] now, where'd i put my long pointy stick...? === Jucato doesn't have it... is making his own [02:21] oh argh. [02:21] it's managing to freeze firefox, even [02:22] what is? [02:22] i think i clicked on a .pdf [02:22] and it's killing firefox [02:23] oh... === Jucato goes "die fox! die!" [02:23] heh [02:24] i'm not doing it in konq! === hunger [n=tobias@p54A71F89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:24] do it in KPDF [02:24] drat she left... === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:25] wb Hobbsee === mhb hopes bug 78209 will be fixed before Herd CD 2 or he won't be able to persuade many testers to try it out [02:25] Malone bug 78209 in fontconfig "[feisty] Bad fonts with the latest Feisty upgrade " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78209 === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:26] ty === Hobbsee doesnt see the bad fonts... [02:27] Hobbsee: everything up to date? [02:27] yeah [02:27] mhb: have you tried recent daily CDs? [02:28] Riddell: nope, but will do [02:30] they didn't work earlier this week when I tried, just wondering if it had been fixed [02:31] i tried the alternate ppc cd.. the 4th. didn't work. [02:33] you know...it's amazing what you find out when you actually read the documentation... [02:34] i cant find a link, as i'm not permitted to put that section in yet. yay [02:37] fdoving: alternate-cd for ppc? [02:42] can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? rsync -vPz rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/daily-live/current/feisty-desktop-i386.iso <-- I issue this command and it only "sent 132 bytes received 82 bytes 428.00 bytes/sec" [02:43] freeflying: the ubuntu one.. yes. [02:44] seems to be no ppc alternate for kubuntu. [02:45] oh, missing "./" [03:03] Hobbsee: meeting will be Tuesday morning for us right? [03:03] Jucato: yep [03:05] kthanks :) === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === ryanakca yawns [03:26] moin ryanakca! [03:26] hey Jucato === Hobbsee force feeds ryanakca some coffee === Hobbsee should look at wiki pages, before the meeting [03:26] ewwww.... coffee [03:26] hehe [03:26] yeah, it's probably killed coffee, if i made it [03:26] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RyanKavanagh [03:26] lol [03:26] hehe [03:26] brb, dishes [03:27] ryanakca: i still want a recording of you with those bagpipes :P [03:29] Jucato: i agree with you on the whiptail interface for pppoeconf, kdialog hacking is too much work.. i'm almost there, but it needs an if-then-else statement for each dialog popup, and it's too much work. [03:29] it's not like pppoe is something one sets up every day. [03:30] yeah, but it's kinda tedious to set it up for the first time when you don't know the command [03:30] true. [03:31] i think your idea with the kmenu -> system -> pppoeconf menu entry is good. [03:31] 'konsole -e pppoeconf' or something like that. [03:31] the Kubuntu Desktop Guide links to a wiki regarding how to setup PPPoE ADSL... but how would you be able to view the wiki if you're internet connection isn't setup :) [03:31] true :) [03:32] the menu entry should be simple to add to k-d-s. [03:32] yeah, unless we get a GUI app for configuring it into Feisty (knetworkmanager?) I guess that would have to do... [03:32] i don't belive knetworkmanager handles anything well at this moment. [03:32] better than nothing :) [03:32] doesn't work for me. [03:32] .. or, it handles the wired connection pretty well :) [03:33] I forgot where I heard that knetworkmanager will be able to handle it soon... I'm not sure where I got that from, though [03:33] for suse it handles ppp and vpn and all. [03:34] it just doesn't support debian based distros yet.. afaik. [03:34] ppp or pppoe? [03:34] not much activity in ther svn either. [03:34] not sure about pppoe. === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@86-39-7-177.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:34] Hobbsee: I'll get that for you :P [03:34] ryanakca: woot :D === Jucato is most concerned about pppoe.. which seems to be left out a lot... [03:34] ryanakca: meeting should be interesting, with the stuff on your wiki page === ryanakca gulps === Hobbsee already has a list of questions [03:35] eeeps! [03:35] hehe :) === Hobbsee doenst tend to bring her Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to meetings, though === ryanakca wonders if he could reduce the amount of questions with a recording... [03:35] nah [03:35] kubuntu type questions [03:35] sucks [03:35] shucks [03:35] hehe === Jucato wonders when he'll be able to put "violin" among his list of hobbies... [03:36] Riddell: rockin! on putting info on the Herd2 page [03:37] lol [03:37] Jucato: sure - but we might make you play it :D === Hobbsee should have put flute on hers [03:37] Hobbsee: heh I don't even have one yet :P [03:37] hehe [03:37] it's a long overdue christmas gift.. [03:37] nixternal: moin! :D === Hobbsee played a violin...once... === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.48.79.151] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:37] moin mon mn m [03:37] morning nixternal! === Hobbsee forcefeeds nixternal slime to wake him up [03:38] hehe [03:38] im awake, for over an hour now [03:38] hooray! [03:38] just been working on some herd2 stuff [03:39] my dog took it upon himself to nibble my ear at 6:50am [03:39] nice :) [03:39] heh.. how cute [03:39] oh ya very cute ;p [03:40] i take it you threw him outside after this [03:41] nah, he is to small and mean to throw just yet [03:41] although he is perfect throwing size [03:41]