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| Nafallo | hmm | 12:43 |
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| Ingar | HEI! | 01:27 |
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| jdong | s | 01:27 |
| jdong | sorry, didn't mean to do that, lost focus... | 01:28 |
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| ozgurk | hello | 02:09 |
| ozgurk | good nights. | 02:09 |
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| glick | hi | 04:55 |
| glick | hey has a decision going to be made if feisty is going to include the 3d desktop by default? | 04:56 |
| glick | or whats going on with that? | 04:56 |
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| somerville32 | There are a lot of kernel packages that haven't be recompiled. Why isn't the old binary package left in the repository until the new version is ready? | 05:19 |
| Nafallo | somerville32: huh? | 05:21 |
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| somerville32 | *been | 05:21 |
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| Nafallo | 17-10, 19-7, 20-1, 20-2, 20-3, 20-4, 20-5 is in feisty :-) | 05:24 |
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| somerville32 | Most of the linux-restricted-modules aren't | 05:26 |
| somerville32 | When I upgraded I had to use the gb mirror because it is broken and still had the old packages | 05:26 |
| Nafallo | how bad :-) | 05:28 |
| Nafallo | I don't use restricted myself | 05:29 |
| johanbr | somerville32: There's no guarantee that the development repository is in a 100% consistent state at all times. | 05:30 |
| somerville32 | johanbr, Thats to be expected. | 05:30 |
| somerville32 | But it has less to do with it being the dev repository and more to do with how repositories work | 05:31 |
| somerville32 | (my question that is) | 05:31 |
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| Nafallo | somerville32: that's why I answered that we have lots of old packages lying around :-) | 05:32 |
| Nafallo | laying | 05:32 |
| johanbr | lying | 05:32 |
| johanbr | Pet peeve of mine. :) | 05:32 |
| somerville32 | How do you spell lieing? | 05:33 |
| johanbr | lie, lies, lain, lying. | 05:33 |
| jdub | "lain"? | 05:34 |
| johanbr | Has lain. | 05:34 |
| jdub | in the case of telling a lie, it's "lied" | 05:35 |
| jdub | in the case of a funeral "laid to rest" | 05:35 |
| jdub | "lain" is pretty old school | 05:35 |
| _ion | Thou think so? | 05:36 |
| johanbr | If you're looking for a past tense of "lie" meaning "be situated on", I don't know what else you'd use. | 05:36 |
| somerville32 | lied? | 05:37 |
| somerville32 | lol | 05:37 |
| johanbr | If you're telling an untruth, yes. | 05:37 |
| somerville32 | If lying and lying are the same - why not lied and lied? | 05:39 |
| _ion | Since when is English supposed to be logical? | 05:40 |
| somerville32 | gp | 05:40 |
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| sistpoty | haha, with your discussions about english I just found (and filed) bug #78271 | 05:52 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 78271 in tk8.4 "usr/lib/libtk8.4.so.0 has no SONAME" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78271 | 05:52 |
| jdong | jdub: I've gotten a 5 point grammar deduction on a paper for using slain, so I doubt lain would fly so smoothly :D | 05:52 |
| Nafallo | sistpoty: go to bed! :-) | 05:53 |
| sistpoty | Nafallo: only this small security fix for gallery2, then *g* | 05:53 |
| _ion | Let's all switch to Lojban. | 05:53 |
| jdub | jdong: slain is more regularly used than lain | 05:53 |
| jdong | jdub: yeah, IMO slain is still usable :) | 05:53 |
| Nafallo | sistpoty: I am in bed myself. had to patch together two cat5e :-) | 05:53 |
| jdong | but obviously my english teacher thought that 'slayed' should be used instead :D | 05:54 |
| sistpoty | Nafallo: :) | 05:54 |
| _ion | I'm in bed, too. | 05:54 |
| Nafallo | _ion: so you actually mean you're in bed with me? ;-) | 05:59 |
| somerville32 | I had a prof tell me that spelled should be used instead of spelt - but I argued with him until he let me use the word spelt :] | 05:59 |
| johanbr | For what it's worth, Merriam-Webster seems to agree with me about "lie". | 06:00 |
| _ion | nafallo: Well, there probably is an alternative universe where you reside in this bed and i reside in that bed. | 06:02 |
| somerville32 | ;] | 06:02 |
| Nafallo | haha | 06:02 |
| Nafallo | _ion: would probably be good for you. I got a large bed :-) | 06:03 |
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| jdub | johanbr: that is not a real dictionary. | 06:25 |
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| johanbr | jdub: Are you going to go Crocodile Dundee on me and pull out the complete OED? | 06:28 |
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| Nafallo | lol | 06:30 |
| jdub | johanbr: quite! | 06:31 |
| jdub | johanbr: though it'd have to be some bizaaro version of croc dundee with a snotty english accent | 06:32 |
| elkbuntu | jdub, what's the best email address to harrass you at? | 06:37 |
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| macd | whats the deal with kernel-patch-grsecurity2 ? | 08:45 |
| macd | has grsec been merged in edgy? | 08:45 |
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| macd | whats the deal with kernel-patch-grsecurity2 ? | 09:00 |
| macd | has grsec been merged in edgy? | 09:00 |
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| mdke | Mithrandir: just tried your contentless ping script, doesn't seem to work. Anything I need to do except for loading it? | 11:16 |
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| Mithrandir | mdke: sure? | 11:20 |
| Mithrandir | mdke: ping | 11:20 |
| Mithrandir | hmm, true, at least if your current client has it loaded. | 11:20 |
| mdke | Mithrandir: yes | 11:21 |
| mdke | 10:08:44 -!- Irssi: Loaded script contentless_ping | 11:21 |
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| Mithrandir | it seems to be buggy, I'll take a poke at it. | 11:25 |
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| mdke | Mithrandir: wow, thanks. Lemme know if I can test | 11:25 |
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| Mithrandir | mdke: ok, download the script again, it's fixed now and has rate-limiting applied. | 12:03 |
| mdke | Mithrandir: that's awesome. Will check later and let you know! | 12:04 |
| Mithrandir | mdke: thanks for telling me that it was buggy. :-) | 12:04 |
| glick | hey so is feisty fawn gonna be uncool and try to make the 3d desktop default? | 12:04 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir!!! | 12:04 |
| Hobbsee | ... | 12:04 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee! :-) | 12:04 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 12:04 |
| === Hobbsee hugs Mithrandir | ||
| === Mithrandir hugs Hobbsee back. | ||
| Mithrandir | how's .au today? | 12:05 |
| Fujitsu | Mithrandir, a lot colder than the past few days, which is good :) | 12:05 |
| glick | ? | 12:05 |
| glick | shuttleworth! are you in here? | 12:06 |
| Mithrandir | glick: sabdfl isn't here now, no. | 12:06 |
| glick | dont make 3d desktop default | 12:06 |
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| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: dunno, i've been inside working most of the day. it's been raining and sunny, alternating | 12:06 |
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| mdke | glick: powerful reasoning | 12:13 |
| mdke | glick: you might wanna try the usual means of discussion though, via commenting on the relevant specification, etc | 12:13 |
| Keybuk | jdub: damn boy, you've managed to find an ancient version of mailman, there! | 12:13 |
| glick | mdke, but many people dont have fancy video hardware | 12:13 |
| glick | what are they gonna do? | 12:13 |
| Keybuk | glick: not to mention providing an argument | 12:13 |
| jdub | Keybuk: LA mail infra sucks. i've offered to revamp the whole lot post-lca. | 12:14 |
| Keybuk | glick: default doesn't mean "mandatory", we already enable AIGLX by default if you have the hardware -- those without the hardware simply don't have it enabled | 12:14 |
| stgraber | Anyone knows if the current daily build of Feisty is installable ? | 12:14 |
| Keybuk | stgr: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/report.html | 12:15 |
| Keybuk | stgraber: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/report.html | 12:15 |
| Keybuk | that's pretty installable | 12:16 |
| glick | what is the reasoning for default 3d desktop? | 12:16 |
| stgraber | oh, didn't know of that file, thank you | 12:16 |
| Keybuk | glick: see the spec | 12:17 |
| === pitti waves to the devs who spend their Sundays at their computer | ||
| StevenK | I spent my Sunday at the airport. | 12:18 |
| StevenK | I would have prefered to be at my computer, to be honest. | 12:18 |
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| Hobbsee | heya pitti | 12:21 |
| === Hobbsee spends sunday at work, it seems | ||
| === Hobbsee prods pitti into doing some work | ||
| pitti | Hobbsee: I spent my entire Saturday refactorizing the apport UI and writing test suites | 12:21 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: long train rides are excellent for that :) | 12:22 |
| === pitti hugs https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/+branch/apport/cloakroom | ||
| StevenK | Cloakroom? | 12:22 |
| pitti | StevenK: see crash-reporting spec | 12:23 |
| pitti | bbl | 12:23 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: woot :) | 12:24 |
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| pitti | StevenK: bottom line is that reports can be uploaded automatically and Malone integrates the data in the report filed | 12:26 |
| pitti | StevenK: no more 'please attach this clumsy file name to the bug' dialog | 12:26 |
| StevenK | Whee | 12:26 |
| Hobbsee | yay :) | 12:27 |
| pitti | on the distro sprint I'll work with Bjorn to actually get Malone working for that :) | 12:27 |
| pitti | thus I develop it in a branch for now | 12:27 |
| Hobbsee | ah :) | 12:28 |
| pitti | argh, feisty's gnome-terminal reeeally sucks *grumpy* | 12:28 |
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| StevenK | pitti: How so? | 12:33 |
| pitti | StevenK: it freezes pretty often, I can only close the tab and open a new one | 12:34 |
| Fujitsu | Works fine for me. | 12:34 |
| pitti | i. e. it reacts to ^C (write new command prompt), but doesn't do anything else | 12:34 |
| StevenK | pitti: I suggest the fix is to belt seb128 until he fixes it. :-P | 12:34 |
| pitti | StevenK: great idea! | 12:35 |
| === StevenK grins | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 12:35 |
| === Hobbsee belts StevenK until he fixes all of universe | ||
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| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: now it's not good manners to belt females... | 12:36 |
| StevenK | Indeed. | 12:37 |
| Fujitsu | Damn. | 12:37 |
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| mneptok | HI! | 01:05 |
| === pitti stumbles while the earth shatters | ||
| pitti | hey Kurt! | 01:05 |
| mneptok | morgen pitti | 01:06 |
| ogra | moin | 01:07 |
| mneptok | i need to lock myself in a text editor with e-mail text i don't want to write | 01:07 |
| mneptok | *grmbl* | 01:07 |
| Hobbsee | mneptok: you could just avoid it | 01:07 |
| Hobbsee | hey ogra | 01:07 |
| ogra | hi Hobbsee | 01:08 |
| mneptok | Hobbsee: it's ... it's ... *like you've been sitting next to me for 36 hours* ;) | 01:08 |
| Hobbsee | mneptok: haha. "why put off till tomorrow what you can put off till next week?" | 01:09 |
| mneptok | as a Buddhist, my procrastination can extend across incarnations | 01:10 |
| StevenK | Ahhh, so babies aren't just lying around doing nothing, they're procrastinating from previous lives. Brilliant! | 01:11 |
| mneptok | StevenK: exactly. "i'll finish buisding that deck when this crap is out of my pants." | 01:12 |
| mneptok | *building | 01:12 |
| StevenK | "And when I can lift the hammer." | 01:13 |
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| mdke | Mithrandir: link to your script on your latest blog post seems to still point at 0.2 | 02:14 |
| mdke | Mithrandir: or maybe you didn't bump up the version number | 02:15 |
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| geser | mdke: http://err.no/src/contentless_ping.pl has 'my $VERSION = "0.3";' | 02:20 |
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| Mithrandir | mdke: I believe you are the victim of a proxy. :-P | 02:22 |
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| mdke | Mithrandir: hmm. my isp? | 02:26 |
| Mithrandir | 7f11ac3fb552f0efefbbe4ecebd9e214 contentless_ping.pl | 02:26 |
| Mithrandir | does that match your local md5sum? | 02:26 |
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| mdke | Mithrandir: lemme download it again | 02:27 |
| mdke | Mithrandir: no | 02:27 |
| Mithrandir | try getting http://err.no/src/contentless_ping2.pl, then? | 02:28 |
| Mithrandir | (same file, just a copy) | 02:28 |
| mdke | Mithrandir: I got the original file after clearing firefox cache, all is now well | 02:28 |
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| Mithrandir | oh, ok | 02:29 |
| mdke | is it supposed to do that? | 02:29 |
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| Mithrandir | I don't think I'm sending out expires headers, so yeah, except it should have been picked up by if-modified-since or something like it. | 02:30 |
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| mdke | Mithrandir: see if the script works? | 02:31 |
| Mithrandir | mdke: ping | 02:32 |
| mdke | Mithrandir: You sent me a contentless ping. This is a contentless pong. Please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I am around. | 02:32 |
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| Mithrandir | yeah, works fine. | 02:32 |
| mdke | \o/ | 02:32 |
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| Mithrandir | you can /set contentless_ping_action to change the text, etc if you want to. | 02:32 |
| === mdke nods | ||
| Mithrandir | similarly /set contentless_ping_regexp to change the regex it uses to pick up pings. | 02:33 |
| mdke | Mithrandir: sure. does it pick up pings prefaced by $nick, (comma instead of colon)? | 02:35 |
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| Mithrandir | nope, but I could fix that. | 02:36 |
| mdke | Mithrandir: only if you fancy it | 02:38 |
| Mithrandir | (done) | 02:38 |
| Mithrandir | set contentless_ping_regexp to $own_nick[,:] (ping|around|ayt|((are )?you )?there)[!?.] ?$ | 02:38 |
| mdke | very cool | 02:41 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir$ ping | 02:44 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 02:44 |
| === Hobbsee ducks | ||
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: sure, you can work around it; the idea isn't to play some kind of escalation war game, but rather to get people to provide useful information when they ping you. | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: yeah, i know :) | 02:45 |
| mdke | escalation war games can be fun too though | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | mdke: they are! | 02:45 |
| Mithrandir | so I'm not going to add workarounds for everything people can think of to work around it. | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: hehe, i know :) | 02:45 |
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| Mithrandir | mdke: sure, they can be, but they can very easily turn pointless and annoying to the rest of the world. :-) | 02:45 |
| mdke | indeed | 02:46 |
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| In-love-with-TUX | i've upgrade my ubuntu to feisty but i have a problem with the acpid it gave a message that i should do dpkg-reconfigure acpi but it still show me that acpi not configured will what should i do ? | 08:50 |
| In-love-with-TUX | sorry i just finnished reading the topic | 08:50 |
| In-love-with-TUX | :( | 08:50 |
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| hunger | Is there a linux-image-2.6.20-5-generic already? | 09:28 |
| === hunger was asked to use that, but can not find it anywhere. | ||
| Mithrandir | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-5-generic_2.6.20-5.7_amd64.deb for instance? | 09:30 |
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| lifeless | morning | 10:05 |
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| somerville32 | Morning | 10:16 |
| mdke | Mithrandir: I notice that you've built in Jedi powers to that script: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/776/ | 10:20 |
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| mdke | it sees things before they happen | 10:20 |
| hunger | Mithrandir: Damit.... why doesn't aptitude pick that up here? | 10:21 |
| Mithrandir | mdke: oh, that's just because of how the internal irssi timing works out. If it's annoying, add a sleep 0.1 before the response. | 10:21 |
| mdke | Mithrandir: no, I thought it was cool | 10:21 |
| Treenaks | "You will ping me without content... please don't" | 10:22 |
| mdke | lol | 10:22 |
| Treenaks | sounds like a Jedi mind trick | 10:22 |
| mdke | this is not the contentless ping you are looking for | 10:22 |
| Treenaks | mdke: *handwave* a contentless ping will do fine | 10:22 |
| mdke | haha | 10:22 |
| _ion | mithrandir: sleep? :-) | 10:23 |
| mdke | your tricks do not work on irc | 10:23 |
| _ion | mithrandir: How about Irssi::signal_add_last? | 10:23 |
| Mithrandir | _ion: oh, sure, that should work too, I guess. I've never pretended to know my way around irssi programming. :-P | 10:23 |
| Mithrandir | _ion: patches accepted. | 10:23 |
| Treenaks | Mithrandir: ah, true Perl style: 'Patches welcome' :) | 10:24 |
| Mithrandir | Treenaks: heh. :-) I'm just lazy. | 10:24 |
| Treenaks | Three great virtues of programming are laziness, impatience, and hubris. - Larry Wall | 10:25 |
| Treenaks | anyway, gone :) | 10:25 |
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| jc-denton | hi all | 11:26 |
| jc-denton | where is the .config of the offical ubuntu kernel? | 11:26 |
| jc-denton | i thought that the config is also somewhere accessible through proc | 11:26 |
| jc-denton | but forgot how | 11:26 |
| _ion | ls /boot/config* | 11:26 |
| jc-denton | [17183300.392000] ipw2100: eth1: No response from Symbol - hw not alive | 11:27 |
| jc-denton | [17183300.396000] ipw2100: eth1: Error loading microcode: -5 | 11:27 |
| jc-denton | [17183300.396000] ipw2100: eth1: Failed to power on the adapter. | 11:27 |
| jc-denton | [17183300.396000] ipw2100: eth1: Failed to start the firmware. | 11:27 |
| jc-denton | woops | 11:27 |
| jc-denton | sry | 11:27 |
| jc-denton | /boot/config-2.6.17-10-generic | 11:27 |
| jc-denton | ok that looks good thank you | 11:27 |
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| shawarma | jc-denton: It's true that the linux kernel makes this possible (through CONFIG_IKCONFIG), but as we always ship the config in /boot, there's really no need to bloat the kernel image with it. | 12:08 |
| === hunger sighs. kernel 2.6.20 sucks for me:-( No sound, no WLAN, gets stuck during boot. | ||
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